[12:34] <Tophen> Ok. How long do you reckon it will take?
[12:34] <sudokill> Tophen- no one can answer that
[12:34] <theadmin> Tophen: How big is the partition?
[12:34] <EoN> is there any ubuntu/linux client i can use to connect to an mssql server instance and run sql queries against it etc?
[12:34] <Tophen> 500gb.
[12:34] <dr_willis> Tophen,  you never mentioned the size, type, or connection....
[12:34] <Tophen> SIngle partition.
[12:34] <sudokill> Tophen- it shouldnt take forever...
[12:34] <Tophen> Sorry.
[12:34] <ewww> dr_willis: how will i know if there is that port 25 is listening
[12:35] <Tophen> Thanks...
[12:35] <theadmin> Tophen: This might take a while... an hour or so probably
[12:35] <dr_willis> ewww,  You got a service running thats listening to that port?  sounds like you may not have the service going.
[12:35] <sudokill> Tophen- are you doing some full format from windows or something?
[12:35] <Tophen> Nooo!!
[12:35] <sudokill> ok
[12:35] <sudokill> shouldnt take long then
[12:35] <Tophen> No just wiping my unused external 500gb hard drive.
[12:35] <ewww> dr_willis: maybe i dont find services using port 25, so how do i open port 25?
[12:35] <Tophen> To use as the linux drive.
[12:35] <dr_willis> I would think an HR would be a HIGH estimate..  perhaps 20 min
[12:36] <mibbit123> hello
[12:36] <mibbit123> hello
[12:36] <mibbit123> hello
[12:36] <FloodBot1> mibbit123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:36] <dr_willis> ewww,  it IS OPEN...    you are using the term open/closed in a incorrect way..
[12:36] <dr_willis> ewww,  you need to start a service that uses it.
[12:37] <dr_willis> !firewall
[12:37] <maptz>  I'm trying to join a samba domain with my XP client but xp client says "domain can't be join". I see UDP packets from client to  pdc and other way. my pdc is ready and listen to connection with an ldap backend. I use smbldap-tools and they are configure such as nsswitch.conf. Someone can help me for this?
[12:37] <dr_willis> No firewall rules = everything is basically open.  but nothing is listening.. so no answers..
[12:38] <ewww> dr_willis: ok
[12:38] <dr_willis> I think i summarized that right.. :)
[12:39] <blackshirt> maptz: are you have configure your samba, ldap, correctly ?
[12:40] <maptz> blackshirt: I think unless I miss something
[12:40] <maptz> ldap : samba.schema
[12:40] <maptz> rootdn
[12:40] <maptz> passdn
[12:41] <maptz> and samba is ok with testparm
[12:42] <blackshirt> maptz: i have ever configure it, and works greats..but i forgot for documenting it
 I did it once, 10 days ago but I want to try a second time and i can't join my domain.
[12:45] <blackshirt> maptz: are you sure name resolving was not your problem ?
[12:47] <Abd4llA> ping kim0
[12:47] <maptz> blackshirt: I don't think, samba is wins server too and name resolve order = lmhosts host wins bcast.
[12:48] <phillyj> can someone help me dual install 10.04.3 AMD64 version?
[12:48] <phillyj> I'm stuck on the partition setup page and not sure what to do
[12:49] <maptz> blackshirt: I'll check that
[12:49] <phillyj> I don't see the automatic partition option to install side by side
[12:49] <blackshirt> maptz: yeah.. i'm not my office server..sory can't help you so much
[12:50] <sabya> my Ubuntu 11.04 install (alongside Win 7) hangs at the screen where they ask "where are you?"
[12:51] <phillyj> before i go and try it manually, is the only option for automatic partition "Erase and use the entire disk"?
[12:52] <blackshirt> phillyj: you have a full option and control on manually mode
[12:52] <sabya> any idea?
[12:52] <bullgard4_> '~$ w' does not produce meaningful output. Is this normal?
[12:53] <phillyj> blackshirt: what do you mean by full option?
[12:54] <Tophen> My format is still going :P
[12:54] <bullgard4_> sabya: This channel is for Ubuntu 11.10.
[12:54] <Tophen> What happens if I just pull it ou?
[12:54] <Pici> bullgard4_: No its not.
[12:54] <blackshirt> phillyj: you have great control for all options
[12:55] <Pici> bullgard4_: You're in #ubuntu right now
[12:55] <bullgard4_> sabya: I made a mistake. My aplogies.
[12:55] <maptz> blackshirt: I add a wins server in XP client, i have the same message but a log.clientName  appear, i'll check it
[12:56] <blackshirt> maptz: i'm waiting for that
[12:56] <phillyj> blackshirt: well, it seems different from the Windows Dual boot instruction page. Guess I have to use manual partition option
[12:56] <Tophen> What'll happen if I just pull out my hard drive while formatting?
[12:57] <blackshirt> phillyj: you should understand what are you doing when doing it in manual mode
[12:57] <phillyj> I can't find the automatic option
[12:57] <onto> hi, I can't play two sound applications at the same time, why is this happening? For example if I'm playing mplayer along with a flash video, I can either only hear mplayer or flash (depending on the order of precedence)
[12:58] <maptz> blackshirt: All right, I'm in my domain! It was a name resolution error I think because I just change wins options in windows
[12:59] <phillyj> The only option I have to "Prepare disk space" is "Erase and use the entire disk" OR "Specify partitions manually(Advanced)"
[12:59] <blackshirt> maptz: greats works...congratulations
[12:59] <lion42> Tophen, part or all of it could become permanently inaccessible, afaik
[12:59] <Tophen> Argh!
[13:00] <lion42> same thing as if you lose power. which is why you should use a battery or ups.
[13:00] <Tophen> But it's taking FOREVER
[13:00] <lion42> boo? poor baby.
[13:00] <Tophen> So there's nothing I can do?
[13:00] <lion42> you can wait.
[13:00] <Tophen> Devooooo...
[13:00] <blackshirt> phillyj: erase and entire disk was automatic..but will use all your hardisk
[13:01] <Tophen> How long should it take on average? External Hard Drive, 500gb.
[13:01] <Tophen> Formatting to EXT4.
[13:01] <phillyj> blackshirt: so theres no option to "install side by side"?
[13:01] <koopa58> Hi everyone. Anyone can point me to a tutorial for making a very simple .sh script? I run Ubuntu server of course. I just need to copy over a mysql database on the same server, and a directory.
[13:02] <lion42> like... 5 minutes?
[13:02] <maptz> blackshirt: Thank you... but it was just the first part. Now I have to configure a remote bdc for my pdc. I'm try to do that since one week but I can't join the domain with a client in bdc's subnet
[13:02] <Tophen> Been a lot longer.
[13:02] <Tophen> Maybe an hour now?
[13:03] <Tophen> I think it's already fucked.
[13:03] <lion42> how fast is the connection?
[13:03] <ikonia> !language | Tophen
[13:03] <Tophen> Awkies.
[13:03] <Tophen> Umm yeah and it's like 4mbps?
[13:03] <blackshirt> maptz: i no have experience to setup with bdc..but i think from help.ubuntu.com there are greats howto
[13:03] <Tophen> usually about 1-2mbps on average actually.
[13:04] <lion42> hmm. if its an external id wait it out a bit longer
[13:04] <Tophen> Alrighty then.. :)
[13:04] <blackshirt> phillyj: maybe better you are doing through manually partition.. you can setup partition like you want
[13:04] <herkupus> Tophen: external means connected via usb?
[13:04] <Tophen> Yeah.
[13:05] <Tophen> Hitachi 500gb.
[13:05] <herkupus> Tophen: check if it is actually using usb2.0
[13:05] <Tophen> Uhhh how?
[13:05] <Tophen> Sorry I'm not that good :)
[13:05] <maptz> blackshirt: I followed different howto with no results, so I try a second time.
[13:06] <phillyj> blackshirt: ok
[13:06] <ubuntu_982011> Hi, does someone know how to change left and right of the mouse? I've got a touchscreen. touching up and down is fine, but if I put my hand to the left, the mouse goes to the right
[13:06] <phillyj> now the instructions on the dualboot doc seem different than what I have
[13:06] <Tophen> Connection: USB at 12mb/s.
[13:06] <herkupus> Tophen: that's only usb1.1
[13:06] <koopa58> Is there something like array's in a shell script?
[13:07] <herkupus> Tophen: usb2.0 would be 480mb/s
[13:07] <Tophen> Cra
[13:07] <Tophen> p
[13:07] <blackshirt> phillyj: don't panic..
[13:07] <berkes> previously the Gnome Help Center in ubuntu could render Manpages. Is that feature available somewhere (hidden) in Ubuntu 11.04?
[13:07] <Tophen> Now that I've started....
[13:07] <Tophen> The format..
[13:07] <Tophen> On extremely slow.... Anything I can do?
[13:08] <herkupus> Tophen: try killing the mkfs.ext4 process
[13:08] <Younder> Just got my lat issue of ubuntu user. Recommend the article about upstart
[13:08] <Tophen> How?
[13:08] <Tophen> Sorry I'm new to linux.
[13:09] <berkes> herkupus, won't killing mkfs.ext4 corrupt the disk beyond repair?
[13:09] <phillyj> blackshirt: I see a device , ntfs with ~600 gb and 35 gb is used
[13:09] <Tophen> Oh god what have I gotten myself into.
[13:09] <herkupus> berkes: why? mkfs is no low level format
[13:09] <herkupus> berkes: mkfs is just putting a filesystem on a block device
[13:10] <berkes> herkupus, yea. True. As long as you are not mkdfs-ing the disk where you are operating on, you can probably re-do it later again, Tophen.
[13:10] <Tophen> Look. I started a format on my external 500gb format from fat32 to EXT4. I accidentally did it on 1.0.
[13:10] <Tophen> Ok.
[13:10] <ikonia> Tophen: what's the issue ?
[13:10] <Tophen> So can I cancel this?
[13:10] <phillyj> blackshirt: when I hit "change" it gives me the option  "New partition size in mb"
[13:10] <Tophen> Safely?
[13:10] <Tophen> I started the format on usb 1.0 speed.
[13:11] <herkupus> Tophen: i'd say just unplug it if you want to format it anyway later
[13:11] <Tophen> that'll take forever
[13:11] <ikonia> Tophen: how did you start it on usb1 speed ?
[13:11] <Tophen> ok
[13:11] <berkes> Tophen, then it is safe to kill. Sorry to stumble in, I did not read the entire backlog but wanted to stop you from breaking anything beyond repair. I was shouting too soon. Excuse me.
[13:11] <Tophen> I don't know. Herkupus just said that it was.
[13:11] <phillyj> blackshirt: and also, a drop-down for "Use as:"
[13:11] <Tophen> Thanks anyway :)
[13:11] <ikonia> Tophen: I believe that's not correct
[13:11] <Tophen> so how do I kill ecactly?
[13:11] <ikonia> Tophen: the mkfs command does not have an option for "USB speed"
[13:11] <herkupus> 15:06 < Tophen> Connection: USB at 12mb/s.
[13:11] <blackshirt> phillyj: yeah, you are have freedom on it
[13:11] <herkupus> Tophen: that's what you said
[13:11] <Tophen> Yeah.
[13:12] <Tophen> That's what it says in disk utility.
[13:12] <ikonia> Tophen: just let it run,
[13:12] <lion42> herkupus: if his goal is to get to ext4 anyways, and hes already an hour in wouldnt it be worth just waiting it out?
[13:12] <blackshirt> phillyj: use as was file system formatted to
[13:12] <Tophen> So... how long do you think it will take?
[13:12] <Tophen> And COULD I safely kill it?
[13:13] <ikonia> Tophen: unknown, it depends on a lot of things
[13:13] <ikonia> Tophen: just let it run,
[13:13] <sudokill> Tophen- just leave iton
[13:13] <Tophen> Oh man...
[13:13] <Tophen> This will take like years.
[13:13] <ikonia> Tophen: tell you waht then - power off the machine
[13:13] <auronandace> Tophen: what do you need a 500gb ext4 partition for?
[13:13] <ikonia> Tophen: you don't seem to want to hear advice, so just unplug it and walk away
[13:13] <sabya> my Ubuntu 11.04 install (alongside Win 7) hangs at the screen where they ask "where are you?"... any idea?
[13:14] <Tophen> No... I've taken the advice... I'm doing it.
[13:14] <Tophen> I'm just a bit mad.
[13:14] <ikonia> Tophen: you had no idea how long it will take, and your making comments like "this will take years" how do you know if you have no idea how long it will take
[13:14] <sudokill> Tophen- it shouldnt take that long
[13:14] <bullgard4_> sabya: You can select for example "Berlin".
[13:14] <ikonia> Tophen: then calm down and stop talking nonsense, and listen to people trying to help you
[13:14] <Tophen> And auronanadace: I'm using it as a dedicated linux drive.
[13:14] <Tophen> Alrighty.... :)
[13:15] <lion42> the linuxes are out to get you! run!
[13:15] <phillyj> can someone give sabya the irc chat for 11.04?
[13:15] <bullgard4_> sabya: You need to select a representative entry for your time zone.
[13:15] <auronandace> Tophen: i see, 500gb seems a little excessive for 1 linux partition
[13:15] <Pici> phillyj: Thats here.
[13:15] <Tophen> Yeahh I didn't really think about it
[13:16] <Tophen> Which is why I wanted to cancel.
[13:16] <lion42> phillyj: uh, this one?
[13:16] <phillyj> Pici: so am I in the wrong one, for 10.04?
[13:16] <sudokill> Tophen- just reboot. then redo it
[13:16] <Tophen> Won't that corrupt my drive?
[13:16] <sudokill> theres nothing on it...
[13:17] <Tophen> I'm willing to wait if that's my only real option.
[13:17] <Tophen> But won't it make the drive unreadable?
[13:17] <Pici> phillyj: All supported releases of Ubuntu are supported out of this channel.
[13:17] <phillyj> blackshirt: "Use as" has option like "do not use the partition", "swap area", "ntfs", etc.
[13:17] <sudokill> Tophen- no i doubt it very much
[13:17] <sabya> bullgard4_: i can not. niether does the select work, nor can I type in that screen
[13:17] <Tophen> Second opinion before I do this anyone?
[13:17] <blackshirt> phillyj: yeah, that was partition type
[13:18] <lion42> i will lol so hard when it finishes formatting in like 3 minutes.
[13:18] <sudokill> Tophen- your not going to kill your drive doing that
[13:18] <Tophen> Argh. I'm just going to leave it for 30 minutes or so.
[13:18] <phillyj> blackshirt: do I select "ntfs" after entering the size of the partition?
[13:18] <Tophen> If it's not done by then. Bam. Second option.
[13:19] <blackshirt> phillyj: are you sure ntfs for linux partition ?
[13:19] <sudokill> phillyj- use ext4
[13:19] <sudokill> its the standard
[13:19] <phillyj> blackshirt: no, i don't know
[13:19] <phillyj> ok
[13:20] <Tophen> Is there anyway to tell if it's actually doing anything?
[13:20] <blackshirt> phillyj: i thinks that was not good idea to place linux on ntfs partition..choose ext3 or ext4..
[13:20] <bullgard4_> sabya: So something in the install process went seriously wrong. The only thing I can advise it to start the installation process anew.
[13:20] <sudokill> Tophen- if theres no output, run top see if mkfs is running
[13:21] <herkupus> Tophen: meanwhile you can check if your machine has a usb2.0 host controller.
[13:21] <sudokill> Tophen- i dont know how your doing it..
[13:21] <Tophen> How would I tell?
[13:21] <sudokill> Tophen- do lspci -v
[13:21] <Tophen> in the term?
[13:21] <sudokill> itll say usb2 controller
[13:21] <Tophen> ok
[13:22] <sudokill> you dont need the -v
[13:22] <herkupus> Tophen: type "ls /sys/bus/pci/drivers/ehci_hcd" in a shell and check if some numbers like 0000:00:0b.1 shows up
[13:22] <ChickenHawk> Hi all.  Is there a way to have a separate theme for each user in Natty?  My GF made changes to the theme under her account, but under my account my theme was changed to what she did =\
[13:22] <theadmin> ChickenHawk: That's very weird, cause these settings are per-user.
[13:22] <sudokill> ChickenHawk- it shouldnt...
[13:22] <bullgard4_> sabya: If the second install process stops unexpectedly again, then try to install Ubuntu a third time and now without a graphical user interface.
[13:22] <sabya> bullgard4_: does not solve
[13:22] <theadmin> ChickenHawk: Sounds like a bug.
[13:23] <ChickenHawk> fml
[13:23] <Tophen> Yes.
[13:23] <Tophen> It DOES have USB 2.0
[13:23] <Tophen> But how do I know which?
[13:23] <sudokill> Tophen- if the drives usb2 it sohuld be using usb2
[13:23] <herkupus> Tophen: but for some reason the external harddisk seems not to use it
[13:23] <Tophen> there's a 1.0 AND a 2.0
[13:23] <bullgard4_> sabya: "does not solve" is no exact description. Thus I cannot help you.
[13:24] <sudokill> Tophen- sometimes front ports are usb1
[13:24] <wols> Tophen: you plug in your usb device and your kernel tells you at what speed it's connected. see dmesg output
[13:24] <Tophen> I'm on a macbook regular
[13:24] <Tophen> only two usb ports
[13:24] <phillyj> blackshirt: just to make sure: [1] I select the device with 600 gb free space, [2] Edit by changing the size from 600 to smaller size, [3] set "Use as" to EXT4 JFS
[13:24] <sudokill> theyre prob both2 then
[13:24] <sabya> bullgard4_: sorry. I tried again and it stalls in the same screen everytime
[13:25] <phillyj> blackshirt: should I format the partition or not?
[13:25] <bullgard4_> sabya: So try to install Ubuntu without installing a GUI.
[13:25] <Tophen> I think it IS running on 2.0
[13:25] <sabya> bullgard4_: was looking at these bug reports: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/772415
[13:25] <Tophen> when i plugged in my other usb
[13:25] <Tophen> not my ehd
[13:26] <Tophen> and went to disk utility
[13:26] <Tophen> it also says Connection: USB
[13:27] <Tophen> I think i've stuffed my ehd AGAIN.
[13:27] <bullgard4_> sabya: That man wrote: "Today I tried again but this time DISCONECTING THE NETWORK, and voila!. It let me choose the right TimeZone and carry on with the installing process." You could try this also.
[13:28] <YokoBR> hi guys
[13:28] <phillyj> just to make sure, I am partitioning an NTFS device to contain a smaller EXT4 device, correct?
[13:28] <sabya> bullgard4_: Yes. Let me try that. Have to reboot :-(
[13:28] <shane_> anyone getting blazing slow speeds in the 600 B/s range  when trying to use apt?
[13:28] <bullgard4_> sabya: Yes.
[13:29] <wols> phillyj: incorrect
[13:30] <bullgard4_> shane_: May be your repository is under repair or in heavy demand at this time.
[13:30] <wols> phillyj: to install side by side you have a ntfs partition and a ext4 partition besides it. and usually a small swap parttion as well
[13:30] <Tophen> That's it I'm pulling it I don't even care anymore.
[13:31] <Tophen> Oh crap I just did tha.
[13:32] <ChickenHawk> Okay, it was a UI bug.  I assumed she had made theme changes, but when I went for a reboot I logged into her account and found that no changes had been made.  A reboot reset the UI back to normal.
[13:32] <YokoBR> Please, can someone give me a hand at dns and email stuff?
[13:32] <theadmin> ChickenHawk: Ah, see, told you so
[13:32] <wols> YokoBR: ask your real question
[13:32] <ChickenHawk> YokoBR: What exactly do you need?
[13:32] <theadmin> ChickenHawk: Nice that you got your GF to use Ubuntu :D
[13:33] <ChickenHawk> theadmin: She never saw it before.  When she heard I put it on the laptop she was like "AWW WTF, no way, I'm not using it!"  ... Days later... She's addicted.
[13:33] <theadmin> ChickenHawk: Hehe, is she learning bash yet?
[13:33] <YokoBR> I've created a mail server. (mail.sindifesteste.com.br), then add to dns my entries... But i can't do that spf stuff...  Although, my path to webmail is www.sindifesteste.com.br/webmail.. i'm pretty lost here
[13:34] <ChickenHawk> theadmin: Oh I've have her bash scripting in no time XD
[13:34] <Tophen> herkupus: I just pulled it and it's still working :)
[13:34] <ChickenHawk> is my chat text seriously grey?
[13:34] <ChickenHawk> damn you XChat
[13:35] <theadmin> ChickenHawk: Mind if I /q you?
[13:35] <ChickenHawk> theadmin: go ahead
[13:35] <YokoBR> i mean, i'm dellivering emails to almost every host, but i canno't send to gmail's.
[13:35] <BluesKaj> hello folks
[13:35] <wols> YokoBR: and your gmail error is?
[13:36] <phillyj> After I make my EXT4 partition, I also have to make a swap partition?
[13:36] <YokoBR> wols, i get that message (Our system has detected an unusual rate of unsolicited mail originating from your IP address.  I canceled it. Now here's my problem again. I'm on a school-given macbook and we can't run all programs. I'm running linux off the boot cd and I'm going to make both a boot cd and i'm going to format my 500gb external hard drive so that I can store all my stuff for linux on there (like games I can't run on windows).
[13:38] <wols> YokoBR: e.g. http://www.rackaid.com/resources/gmail-blacklist-removal/
[13:38] <Tophen> What fs should I use and how should I do it.
[13:39] <llutz> YokoBR: check http://www.mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=blacklist%3a<IP_ADDRESS>  and see the "details" why you have been blacklisted
[13:39] <wols> Tophen: if it will be linux only, use ext3
[13:39] <Tophen> Why not ext4?
[13:39] <wols> why would you use ext4?
[13:39] <Pici> wols: why would you use ext3?
[13:39] <Tophen> Because it's a higher number?
[13:39] <escott> Tophen, if it is linux only use ext4
[13:39] <Tophen> Jokes!!
[13:39] <vsync> better performance in ext4, really
[13:39] <YokoBR> geezzz... well, let me be sincere. I've got my static ip from my ISP 2 months ago. Then i was still setting up my server, and i've figured out that i was hacked (7 times, or more)
[13:39] <Tophen> Ok.. 3 or 4?
[13:40] <wols> Pici: maximum compatibility without any downsides. unless you can show me one
[13:40] <vsync> Tophen 4
[13:40] <Tophen> One guy says 3, one guy says 4?
[13:40] <wols> vsync: better? on a usb2 drive?
[13:40] <Tophen> Ok, I'll just go with 4.
[13:40] <escott> Tophen, the ext3 ext4 difference is mostly in extents which is good for larger files
[13:40] <wols> escott: how is it better on a usb drive?
[13:40] <Tophen> Ok. I'll be storing large games and stuff.
[13:41] <vsync> wols could be, conn might bottleneck, but still. In any case if it's for a usb-drive, you might even wanna go with ntfs
[13:41] <wols> vsync: no you don't want to use ntfs for his usage scenario
[13:41] <MasBlaMan> hi all
[13:41] <Tophen> Will I be able to transfer games from windows onto linux?
[13:41] <vsync> wols and that is?
[13:42] <coz_> Tophen,   that is going to depend on the game itself and if wine can run them
[13:42] <escott> Tophen, you will be able to read windows disks and copy files, but you wont be able to run most of them
[13:42] <wols> Tophen: you said you wanted it to use for linux only. and no, running windows games is something linux isn't good at. you can run some but far from all
[13:42] <MasBlaMan> how does video ram impact the overall ram detection?
[13:42] <Tophen> But if I use Play on Linux?
[13:42] <Tophen> I'm only gonna be on Steam Games, which are supported.
[13:42] <wols> MasBlaMan: not at all. different kind of RAM
[13:42] <coz_> MasBlaMan,  in terms of  useage?
[13:43] <escott> MasBlaMan, are you seeing less ram than you think you should because of your video ram?
[13:43] <MasBlaMan> i have 3gb installed and 2 295gtx with 896MB each
[13:43] <escott> MasBlaMan, ie you are running 32bit and have 2x2gb dimms but only see 2.5 or something
[13:43] <MasBlaMan> and ubuntu 32bit sees only 2 GB ram
[13:43] <lion42> steam is semisupportedish.
[13:43] <Tophen> Yeah i know.
[13:43] <MasBlaMan> iu have 3 * 1GB
[13:43] <Tophen> But I don't have a choice.
[13:43] <lion42> you need to test the games you wanna use.
[13:43] <wols> vsync: using a filesystem for linux only. but then, seems he didn't really tell the truth what he intends to do, so who knows?
[13:44] <vsync> MasBlaMan and in the address space if you're seeing too big of numbers that's because the address space between 3-4g (iirc) is reserved for the pcie address-space
[13:44] <YokoBR> wols, it says i'm blacklisted because i was hacked (7 times). I do know that, i was an open proxy for 2 months.... but it ended in april, when i finished my security settings.... now i am no more...
[13:44] <Tophen> I'm on a macbook that we get given at school.
[13:44] <escott> MasBlaMan, the video ram has to be addressable, so it takes the first 2 gigs of address space. there are only addresses for another 2gb of ram. you should run the PAE kernel
[13:44] <usermanager> any cheap magazine comes with ubuntu cd ?
[13:44] <Tophen> Alright, I'll reprashe my quesiton with more detail.
[13:44] <wols> YokoBR: ask google about your problems. not us. we do ubuntu support, not google support
[13:44] <escott> usermanager, search for a LUG (linux users group) in your area. someone will surely burn you a disk
[13:45] <hwilde> MasBlaMan, 32bit can see more than 2G.  You might have a bad stick
[13:45] <MasBlaMan> nooo no bad stick
[13:45] <lion42> lol
[13:45] <MasBlaMan> it works in win
[13:45] <wols> MasBlaMan: ignore hwilde, he's wrong
[13:45] <escott> MasBlaMan, run PAE or run 64bit
[13:46] <wols> MasBlaMan: as you've been told, either run 64bit ubuntu or run the pae kernel
[13:46] <MasBlaMan> but its strange
[13:46] <usermanager> will linux update manger  resume when internet connection disconnected ?
[13:46] <maptz> I have an issue with my samba bdc. When I try to obtain the domain sid or join the domain my server answer : Unable to find suitable server for domain 'MYDOMAIN'.    My pdc is wins server in his subnet and my bdc is wins client of my pdc but in another subnet
[13:46] <escott> MasBlaMan, I gave you an explanation
[13:46] <hwilde> If you are running 32bit you should see up to 3G of ram.
[13:46] <wols> MasBlaMan: no it's not strange but normal. if you run 32bit windows it will be exactly the same. if you run 64bit windows you can use all your ram. Same on Linux
[13:46] <Tophen> I am on a MacBook that was given to us by our school. For reasons, I cannot access steam on Windows. I am running Linux off a disc. I'm planning on burning a new boot disc to boot it up, and I want to use my 500gb EXT HD to store my files. I am hoping that I will be able to run Steam Games on Play on Linux (I was told numerous times that it was easily done {I just want to play source games [definetely work]})
[13:46] <wols> MasBlaMan: in ubuntu you have the additional choice to run a pae kernel, something you can't do on windows
[13:46] <leifmadsen> morning all!
[13:47] <escott> hwilde, thats not true, as the video ram has to be addressable and the addresses are reserved
[13:47] <wols> hwilde: not if his videocards use 2GB of it
[13:47] <MasBlaMan> but isn't 32 able to se 3GB 3*1
[13:47] <MasBlaMan> see
[13:47] <Tophen> My question is: What fs should I format my 500gb external hard drive to if I want to transfer games between windows and linux.
[13:47] <freeze> hey i really got a problem here
[13:47] <sudokill> Tophen- ntfs
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: NTFS
[13:47] <MasBlaMan> thx escott but that was not the question
[13:47] <escott> MasBlaMan, it has to be addressable. after the video card uses up 2gb of addresses there are only 2gb of addressses left. in addition the kernel reserves a bit for itself that "disappears" but is in fact being used
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: windows is dumb and can't access too many file systems
[13:48] <zykotick9> MasBlaMan, memory on video cards is not treated the same as system memory, you won't see video RAM in "free" for example
[13:48] <Tophen> Ok. Thanks much.
[13:48] <freeze> hey please can anyone help me?
[13:48] <lion42> you need special tools to read ext4 on windows, but not to read ntfs on linux, afaik.
[13:48] <wols> Tophen: you will need to use ntfs which is suboptimal but the only real choice for interchanging files
[13:48] <sudokill> and they sucj
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> freeze: ask and see
[13:48] <sudokill> k
[13:48] <dvdr> I'm trying to get dhcp working in ubuntu. There are various guides, but I'm a bit confused by the difference between dhcp, dhcp3 and isc-dhcp. I'm not sure where the config files should be, there are several directories that relate to dhcp. My installed package is isc-dhcp. How should I start the dhcp daemon?
[13:48] <escott> !help | freeze
[13:48] <MasBlaMan> oh i understand escott
[13:48] <Tophen> Now, I'm in disk utility. I just stuffed this up before. What should do from here?
[13:49] <Tophen> To format into NTFS.
[13:49] <sudokill> Tophen- in mac or ubuntu?
[13:49] <arooni-mobile> hi folks.  running ubuntu 11.04 x64 on thinkpad t420.  when i suspend; the computer DOES wake up; but i end up having to use a different tty to run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" as gdm doesnt seem responsive.  anyway to fix?
[13:49] <MasBlaMan> can i disable one video card so i can use the 3GB
[13:49] <Tophen> Ubuntu
[13:49] <maptz>  I have an issue with my samba bdc. When I try to obtain the domain sid or join the domain my server answer : Unable to find suitable server for domain 'MYDOMAIN'.    My pdc is wins server in his subnet (192.168.56. ) and my bdc is wins client of my pdc but in another subnet (192.168.46.). How can I solve my resolution name issue? i suppose it's the main issue
[13:49] <escott> dvdr, i think isc-dhcp is the standard version to install if you want to have a dhcp server
[13:49] <wols> Tophen: but you cannot install linux itself on NTFS however
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> lion42: there is www.fs-driver.org    not sure if it does ext4 yet though
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: format it to NTFS in Windows.Much easier
[13:49] <freeze> i wanna go back tomy linux mint server but i cannot look up the hostname it fails there evreytime
[13:49] <dvdr> escott:thanks.
[13:50] <wols> Tophen: I'd suggest to create 2 partitions on the ext hdd. one, a say up to 50GB for Ubuntu itself, and another one with the rest for ntfs
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: you can add commands and such to the thaw / wakeup
[13:50] <leifmadsen> perhaps I'm going about this the wrong way, but I want to add a repository to my Ubuntu 10.04.3 system from the Debian packages site so I can install some packages, but perhaps I'm thinking about this the wrong way.
[13:50] <ChickenHawk> maptz: are you able to successfully get forward and reverse lookups from the bdc?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> freeze: Mint isn't supported here
[13:50] <xangua> leifmadsen: not good idea
[13:50] <xangua> !mint | freeze
[13:50] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, commands such as?  i mean i shouldnt have to restart gdm on every laptop wake up should i?
[13:50] <Tophen> @wols: I can't really have the ext hd as the boot disc.
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: no idea, maybe
[13:50] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, :(
[13:51] <wols> Tophen: I don#t ask about the boot disk. I ask where Ubuntu / will be
[13:51] <Tophen> That's why I'm having a cd to boot and storing my files on the ehd.
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: what make and model is the system?
[13:51] <leifmadsen> xangua: ok, then I may just have to build my own packages
[13:51] <freeze> ya ya i tried it but its taking forever
[13:51] <Tophen> Umm on the disc? Sorry I'm not great with this.
[13:51] <Tophen> I'll store ubuntu on a disc or usb.
[13:51] <Tophen> The files, however (games and stuff) will be on my ehd.
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: make a small partition to hold ubuntu (about 20Gb is plenty) then use the rest as NTFS
[13:51] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T420  (2520 processor; 8gb of ram; 4gb swap)
[13:52] <freeze> i got into Xchat tab > network list >and then i chose linux server but it is not working
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: you don't have enough swap
[13:52] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, but i'm not running hibernate
[13:52] <wols> Tophen: you don't want to have everything on a CD. you will need to be able to install updates
[13:52] <Tophen> Why would I need to hold Ubuntu on it again?? Sorry  I'm a bit confused.
[13:52] <phillyj> I finished making the 200gb EXT4 partition and I see it on the bar graph but in the list of devices the ~400gb left over is listed unusable
[13:52] <lion42> freeze, type control t then /server irc.servername.whatever
[13:52] <phillyj> did I do something wrong?
[13:52] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, just suspend... with suspend i didnt think swap was used
[13:53] <wols> Tophen: cause an OS needs to have userdata and updates. if you put everyone on a CD you can't do that
[13:53] <wols> s/everyone/everything/
[13:53] <Tophen> Ok. How do you guys suggest I boot into Ubuntu? I don't have access to the BIOS.
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/+source/pm-utils/+bug/625364
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: you will have a button at boot to select the booting device
[13:53] <ChickenHawk> maptz: what is the result of forward and reverse DNS lookups from the bdc...does it resolve both ways?
[13:53] <Tophen> Ok... I'm going to have a think about that.
[13:53] <wols> Tophen: you load the kernel from a CD or whatever but have your root partition on writable media.
[13:53] <Tophen> When will this happen ActionParsnip?
[13:54] <sudokill> Tophen- when you boot up on most comps theres an F button to press to choose the dev to boot from
[13:54] <wols> Tophen: this is however an advanced installation
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: right at the very VERY beginning of powerup
[13:54] <Tophen> Yeah.
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: if you use pm-utils doesit work ok?
[13:54] <maptz> ChickenHawk: I try
[13:54] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, I dont know how to run pm-utils; is that covered in the bug link you sent?
[13:55] <Tophen> But Action, I don't get an option. This is a school MacBook.
[13:55] <lion42> i think this is excessively complicated for tophen. they can cont to boot ubuntu from whatever works and format the whole drive to ntfs.
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: possibly, look into pm utils and you'll get a command to suspend. See if it works that way
[13:55] <lion42> problem solved.
[13:55] <Tophen> Yeah sorry guys, I'm still learning this stuff and it's really hard for me to understnad.
[13:56] <Tophen> The only ways I can boot into ubuntu is to remove the internal hd every boot.
[13:56] <khamer> Something keeps reverting any changes I make to my keyboard layout (disabling capslock) via xmodmap, any ideas?
[13:56] <Tophen> Or to have a cd/usb (does the usb work?) in at boot.
[13:57] <wols> lion42: he cannot really install steam onto a ubuntu live cd, can he?
[13:57] <maptz> ChickenHawk: name query failed
[13:57] <wols> lion42: especially including the games
[13:57] <Tophen> That's what I mean! :)
[13:57] <phillyj> is it only possible to have 4 partitions on the hdd? Since the big partition became unusable, should i delete the one i created and quit this for now?
[13:57] <ChickenHawk> maptz: DNS is broken then
[13:57] <Tophen> I need to boot up with one thing.
[13:57] <ChickenHawk> Add it to DNS
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> phillyj: sure and they can all be primary partitions too
[13:57] <Tophen> And store my files on the other.
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> phillyj: deleting and recreating will destroy the data
[13:58] <lion42> wols: he can install it on the usb cant he?
[13:58] <wols> Tophen: yes. kernel on a CD, / on a external hdd
[13:58] <ChickenHawk> maptz: Do you have admin rights on the DNS server?
[13:58] <Tophen> How about this guys: A cd to boot and my EHD to hold the files.
[13:58] <wols> lion42: can he boot from usb hdd?
[13:58] <maptz> ChickenHawk: we use Wins to resolve local name
[13:58] <wols> Tophen: can you boot from EHD?
[13:58] <khamer> Something keeps reverting any changes I make to my keyboard layout (disabling capslock) via xmodmap, any ideas?
[13:58] <Tophen> I don't think so.
[13:58] <ChickenHawk> maptz: Add the BDC to DNS
[13:58] <Tophen> Should I try?
[13:59] <lion42> yes
[13:59] <sudokill> Tophen- you can boot from livecd yes...
[13:59] <Tophen> I CAN boot from the LiveCD.
[13:59] <Tophen> It's automatic.
[13:59] <wols> sudokill: and how is he to play his steam games from livecd?
[13:59] <sudokill> i dont know
[13:59] <escott> phillyj, you can have more than 4 partitions but 5,6,7 etc have to be extended partitions inside a primary partition
[13:59] <phillyj> ActionParsnip: I don't think there was anything in there
[13:59] <wols> sudokill: I noticed
[13:59] <sudokill> just saying, you can boot from a livecd
[13:59] <sudokill> lol
[13:59] <sudokill> and use a data drive for files
[14:00] <wols> sudokill: but that doesn't solve his problem
[14:00] <Tophen> This is my proposition: I'll burn a CD for boot and contain my files on an EHD?
[14:00] <Tophen> Sound good?
[14:00] <sudokill> no
[14:00] <Tophen> Why not?
[14:00] <sudokill> because whenever you reboot, all the settings will be gone
[14:00] <sudokill> what "files"?
[14:00] <Tophen> I guess so... :(
[14:00] <sudokill> data, or programs?
[14:00] <phillyj> why did i get an unusable device?
[14:00] <Tophen> Like my games and steam.
[14:00] <maptz> ChickenHawk: Ok I'll see that
[14:01] <sudokill> Tophen- even if it does work itll be a complete pita
[14:01] <Tophen> And sudokill, if it comes to that I'll just do it anyway.
[14:01] <Tophen> Here's what my brother told me.
[14:01] <ChickenHawk> maptz: by the way, WINS isn't going to be happy talking to your SAMBA server, WINS is for Microsoft products (or Microsoft's version of NetBIOS)
[14:01] <sudokill> Tophen- i dont see what you're trying to achieve
[14:01] <Tophen> ok, i'll explain
[14:02] <Tophen> I want to run games on linux (don't ask me why).
[14:02] <Tophen> I don't have a choice.
[14:02] <sudokill> with wine yes?
[14:02] <Tophen> Yes.
[14:02] <sudokill> why not just install ubuntu?
[14:02] <ChickenHawk> maptz: are you just referring to your machine running WINS as a DNS server?  i.e., do you actually have a DNS server running?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: some will run, soe won't
[14:02] <Ramses> something wrong with webirc
[14:02] <Tophen> Action, the only games I want to run are supported anyway.
[14:02] <Tophen> TF2 and CSS etc.
[14:03] <Tophen> Only source games.
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: then use Ubuntu oly :)
[14:03] <Lafiir> I am testing my Pidgin libnotify plugin. Can someone send me a PM, please?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Lafiir: yo
[14:03] <Ramses> I was taliing about qwebirc
[14:03] <Tophen> Oly?
[14:03] <sudokill> only
[14:03] <Lafiir> thanks
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: only ;) typo
[14:03] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, so sudo pm-suspend appears to wake computer up correctly.  is there a way to change the command on the power drop down (top right of 11.04) to run sudo pm-suspend instead of whatever it does now?
[14:03] <Tophen> haha i wasn't sure if that was a special edition
[14:03] <Tophen> Sorry bout that :)
[14:03] <maptz> ChickenHawk: I'm referring to my PDC only, I ask to my sysAdmin and we just have a wins server
[14:04] <Tophen> But now onto my main problem
[14:04] <Tophen> I have an empty 500gb ext hd.
[14:04] <ChickenHawk> maptz: You'll need your sysadmin to run a true DNS server to get the functionality you want
[14:04] <Tophen> I'm currently running off a live cd
[14:04] <Tophen> I don't have access to the BIOS.
[14:05] <juan__> hey
[14:05] <maptz> ChickenHawk: So no machine with DNS server. It should work with wins, when you look at samba-doc they said samba wrk well with wins
[14:05] <Tophen> I want to either: Store linux AND my games on my EHD OR Have linux on a cd/usb and my games on my EHD.
[14:05] <ChickenHawk> Once your bdc and resolve (both ways, forward and reverse lookups) to the pdc then you're all set.
[14:05] <sudokill> Tophen- whats stopping you installing ubuntu?
[14:05] <sudokill> i really fail to see the problem
[14:06] <sudokill> you're in the livecd already...
[14:06] <ChickenHawk> maptz: idc what the doc says, if you're having that much trouble with it, clearly it's an advanced feature for you and the easier route would be (not surprisingly) the standard route -- use a DNS server
[14:06] <ResQue> hey
[14:06] <Lafiir> Great, Pidgin libnotify worked on the first message and not on the second, now I have to figure out why.
[14:07] <Tophen> Ok I think I got it.
[14:07] <earth_pker6> can anyone help me ?  i cant disable the shadows @ the windows
[14:07] <ChickenHawk> earth_pker6: turn on a desk lamp
[14:07] <ChickenHawk> lolcat, sry couldn't help myself
[14:07] <Obama> ChickenHawk: ?
[14:07] <lolcat> ?
[14:08] <lolcat> ChickenHawk: I don't understand1
[14:08] <earth_pker6> o
[14:08] <ChickenHawk> how the hell did lolcat get in there?
[14:08] <lolcat> I live here
[14:08] <lolcat> I am an expert on debian
[14:08] <h00k> !ot | ChickenHawk, lolcat
[14:08] <surfdue> How do I change the init config for apache?
[14:08] <surfdue> It is using the wrong version
[14:08] <escott> !ccsm | earth_pker6
[14:08] <ChickenHawk> nopf, no, lolcat was a typo, i wasn't talking to lolcat
[14:08] <ChickenHawk> lol
[14:09] <lolcat> h00k: I've been her longer than you. But I answer politley to any questions asked
[14:09] <ChickenHawk> I've got an autocorrect on I think
[14:10] <surfdue> lolcat: then answer mine ;)
[14:10] <Coelho_Silva> Hi there, my hard drive just died. I would like to know how to make a bootable usb with the drivers I will need for my wireless. Thanks for the help!
[14:10] <maptz> ChickenHawk: Ok, thx I'm going to find information to implements my samba domain with dns resoltion until wins
[14:11] <ChickenHawk> maptz: there ya go :)
[14:11]  * ChickenHawk cheers for maptz
[14:11] <wols> surfdue: not enough info given
[14:11] <arooni-mobile> so sudo pm-suspend appears to wake computer up correctly.  is there a way to change the command on the power drop down (top right of 11.04) to run sudo pm-suspend instead of whatever it does now?
[14:12] <surfdue> wols: which apache2 thinks its in /usr/sbin/apache2 but its really in /usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd
[14:12] <koopa58> Can I save the output of a command to a variable in a bash script?
[14:12] <escott> Coelho_Silva, usb-creator-gtk will help you create the basic liveusb. you can then install your wireless drivers the normal way. just make sure that your liveusb is configured to save changes after a reboot
[14:12] <wols> surfdue: if you install your own unsupported apache, I suggest you install your own upstart job for it too
[14:12] <escott> koopa58, foo=`echo bar`
[14:12] <tcsadmin> /SET VERBOSELEVEL=2
[14:13] <surfdue> wols: i didnt do this, i just want to fix it
[14:13] <Coelho_Silva> escott: sweet! now how do I configure for the save changes after a reboot?
[14:13] <surfdue> wols: can you guide me to fix it please
[14:13] <koopa58> escott: Ah, so simple, thanks! =)
[14:13] <wols> surfdue: the real fix is to run the ubuntu supported apache2. which I guess it does just fine...
[14:13] <wols> surfdue: no
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> arooni-mobile: least ou have a workaround til you can tweak the menu
[14:13] <surfdue> wols: how would i do that?
[14:13] <arooni-mobile> ActionParsnip, yes thank you for that
[14:14] <wols> surfdue: do what?
[14:14] <escott> Coelho_Silva, when you open usb-creator-gtk do NOT click the discard changes after shutdown and make sure to have some reserved space for your own files and documents (you will need that to install the drivers)
[14:14] <surfdue> wols: just move the apache httpd.conf file over to the default ubuntu apache2 package and start
[14:14] <surfdue> i believe that would work
[14:14] <image_q> hi, I am trying to install a program in limux 10.4 and have dependency issues with libpq5 and libpq-dev. I tried looking around but it seems like verion 9.0.1 was the last version they released this lib in. I tried compiling the newest version through rpm, but that proved useless as well. any help? http://pastebin.com/9tgHEuiy
[14:15] <image_q> I am on ubuntu 10.4
[14:15] <Coelho_Silva> escott: Thanks! I really apreciate the help!
[14:15] <sveinse> Hi. How can I setup a manual network on eth0 in nm? I've added a network connection for eth1 but the "wired network" is grayed out. I have link an everything, but nm refuses to see it
[14:15] <Coelho_Silva> exit
[14:15] <sveinse> FYI I'm connected to the net using wireless
[14:15] <wols> surfdue: possible but unlikely. ubuntu doesn't erally use httpd.conf anymore. just look at your /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[14:15] <Coelho_Silva> oops forgot the foward slash..
[14:15] <Coelho_Silva> thanks again!
[14:16] <wols> sveinse: added it how?
[14:16] <ChickenHawk> sveinse: are you opposed to doing via CLI?  Network Manager isn't the best in the world ya know.
[14:16] <koopa58> escott++
[14:17] <Tophen> Ok I'm 99% ready. Just one more thing.
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: i'd use /etc/network/interfaces to define the wired network and let network manager deal with the wifi
[14:18] <Tophen> Action?
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: sup?
[14:18] <phillyj> i just deleted the 200gb EXT4 partition and but the 600gb is still unusable but I got some options when I click it
[14:18] <sveinse> ChickenHawk: I could, but using /etc/network/interfaces would otherwise disable NM, and for 90% of the time I'm happy with handling it automatically via nm. It's convenient that its available graphically
[14:18] <Tophen> Ok, last thing before I do this. When I'm installing linux to my ehd.
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: it would only stop network manager being able to manage the wired connection, not ALL connections
[14:18] <Tophen> I'll just first go on windows and format it to NTFS?
[14:19] <Tophen> Or should I save half for EXT4?
[14:19] <surfdue> wols: my boss did this.. its a mess -.-
[14:19] <phillyj> It says I can choose "Primary" or "Logical" , partition size, Location for the new partition
[14:19] <wols> Tophen: what have you decided to do? cause you cannot install ubuntu to a ntfs partition
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: yes but install it only to a portion of the available space so that you can install ubuntu to the remaining space. The default is 100% which you don't want
[14:19] <surfdue> wols: if this was not production id remake the entire thing
[14:20] <ChickenHawk> sveinse: my only suggestion is that if NM isn't propely roaming or connecting to your desired WLAN, then manually configuring via CLI is your only option.
[14:20] <sveinse> wols: Edit connections -> Wired -> Add. Connection name: "eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>". Insert the NICs MAC address. IPv4 settings -> add proper settings. Available to all users unckeck.  I'm trying to configure a small local LAN on wired, not wireless
[14:20] <maptz> ChickenHawk: lol
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: are you installing the games in Linux or WIndows?
[14:20] <Tophen> Ok. I'm going to be using this HD to store some steam games and stuff. It's going to be mainly for ubuntu but with transfers for windows and ubutntu.
[14:21] <Tophen> I'm installing them in Linux.
[14:21] <Tophen> I have 500gb space.
[14:21] <Tophen> How much should I use for each side?
[14:21] <wols> Tophen: forget for a change your games and such. the question right now is: where are you trying to install your ubuntu?
[14:21] <gabel_>  ImageMagick: I know this isn't a new topic, but how can I install ImageMagick without X11-common using apt packet manager??? I search my a** off on google... :D
[14:21] <ChickenHawk> sveinse: sry I misread that
[14:21] <Tophen> My EHD.
[14:21] <AliaRNL> Hi everyone. I need to know if after installing Ubuntu, I will still be able to read my second NTFS hard-drive, which contains my medias (music, videos, etc).
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: then you'd need to look at the space used by the games then add some space for other junk. The Ubuntu OS is very small compared to fat dumb windows
[14:21] <gabel_> on a Ubuntu 10.04 Server 64bit
[14:22] <wols> gabel_: why is having x11-common so bad?
[14:22] <Tophen> I'm going to be using about 100gb space for the games.
[14:22] <gabel_> coz it is a Server
[14:22] <gabel_> ?
[14:22] <Tophen> How much should I use for ubuntu?
[14:22] <Tophen> the whole remaining 400gb?
[14:22] <gabel_> and just for ImageMagick i don't want to install the whole X-package
[14:22] <wols> gabel_: and?
[14:22] <ChickenHawk> AliaRNL: yes, Ubuntu can read NTFS
[14:23] <wols> gabel_: x11-common != xorg
[14:23] <gabel_> i know
[14:23] <theadmin> AliaRNL: Ubuntu can read NTFS trough ntfs-3g, however please note it has issues and reading speed isn't too good
[14:23] <wols> Tophen: 50GB max for ubuntu
[14:23] <gabel_> @wols but why there are such 117 dependencies for ImageMagick :D
[14:23] <tensorpudding> Tophen: you can get by with much less
[14:23] <Tophen> ok. will do.
[14:23] <tensorpudding> Tophen: 20 gb at most
[14:23] <wols> gabel_: tons of image formats supported. including things like xpm
[14:23] <gabel_> wols: incredible... :d
[14:23] <Tophen> I know but why not! :)
[14:24] <AliaRNL> Thank you. Is there anything better I could do ?
[14:24] <Tophen> I won't use the whole 500gb.
[14:24] <gabel_> hmm
[14:24] <Tophen> I'll just sed 50gb for ubuntu
[14:24] <gabel_> ok ill give it a try on the dev system
[14:24] <wols> gabel_: disable recommends maybe
[14:24] <Tophen> So basically. 50gb EXT4 for ubuntu and 450gb NTFS for windows --> linux transfers?
[14:25] <Tophen> Where will I store my games?
[14:25] <phillyj> guys, if I choose to do automatic install, will ubuntu wipe away all the partitions, including the windows part?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> tensorpudding: canI borrow you in PM real quick please?
[14:25] <ChickenHawk> Tophen: 50 GB for / is overkill
[14:25] <gabel_> wols: thx for the response...
[14:25] <Tophen> Really?
[14:25] <Tophen> HOw much should I use?
[14:26] <ChickenHawk> Tophen: / can live and have more then plenty of room to grow on 8-10 GB
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> ChickenHawk: if /home is part of / then it's plenty
[14:26] <ChickenHawk> Yeah, keep /home separate
[14:26] <ChickenHawk> for sure
[14:26] <Tophen> ok so i've gone from 50gb to 20gb to 8-10gb
[14:26] <ChickenHawk> Tophen: as long as / is by itself, it's fine
[14:26] <wols> ChickenHawk: why would he want to keep it separate?
[14:26] <czz> HelloWorld321, can anybody recommend a program that uses desktop support or remote sharing?
[14:26]  * szal wouldn't go under 10 GB for /
[14:26] <safire_> http://pastebin.com/ECDWU2ij <--- We have a script for updating our own repository for custom packages we need to install and we use this script to do so. My problem with it is that it copies all the .debs each time it runs. This is a problem because we have a 1.3gb matlab installation. I'd like to change it so i only does a specific .deb, but I'm not really sure where to start looking to understand the process. Any tips?
[14:27] <czz> As to teach somebody something over the screen of their pc.
[14:27] <Tophen> i have no idea how to keep them by themselves.
[14:27] <Tophen> and  I'm not even sure what / is.
[14:27] <ChickenHawk> wols: it's best practices, you should always keep / separate from stuff like /home
[14:27] <wols> czz: vino as server and and vnc client as client
[14:27] <Tophen> Alright, I've decided.
[14:27] <bashelina> PRINTER::.  How do you find out what printer driver is being used ???
[14:27] <Tophen> Give me opinions on this.
[14:27] <wols> bashelina: localhost:631  in a browser
[14:27] <ChickenHawk> wols: for example, if /home and / are on the same partition, and you fill up the partition, then guess what?  the os no longer boots.
[14:28] <wols> ChickenHawk: wrong
[14:28] <ChickenHawk> prime example
[14:28] <szal> ChickenHawk: if / is on its own partition and runs full, you have the same problem ;)
[14:28] <Tophen> Out of 500GB: 20GB for Ubuntu EXT4 and 480GB for Windows ---> Ubuntu storage NTFS.
[14:28] <Tophen> Good?
[14:28] <mina2> I made a file with extension .desktop and put it under /usr/share/applications. Why it doesnt show in the panel menu?
[14:28] <szal> ChickenHawk: the point of keeping /home separate is that it's way easier to reinstall that way
[14:28] <phillyj> can someone guide me thru setting up the partitions in ubuntu setup OR give me a link to any documentation?
[14:29] <theadmin> phillyj: I could try
[14:29] <mini_> mini
[14:29] <theadmin> phillyj: Depends on your wish
[14:29] <mina2> I made a file with extension .desktop and put it under /usr/share/applications. Why it doesnt show in the panel menu?
[14:29] <ChickenHawk> szal: there are several reasons to keep them separate, for you its ease of re-install, for me is system stability.
[14:29] <escott> phillyj, i believe it would. if you have any doubts do the manual partitioning
[14:31] <phillyj> guys, I see a device listed "Free space" and when I click it, it says I can choose "Primary" or "Logical" , partition size, and Location for the new partition
[14:31] <theadmin> phillyj: Primary, size - any you wish, location - /
[14:31] <Tophen> I'm going to try it! Wish me luck guys!
[14:31] <mang0> Guys, I need to write a document in libreoffice that can be opened in word. If I save it as a .doc with that work? Or does it need to be something else
[14:32] <phillyj> theadmin: the location is either "begining" or "end"
[14:32] <theadmin> phillyj: Ah... uh, what?
[14:32] <theadmin> mang0: You need to choose "Microsoft Office 97/2000/XP" format when saving
[14:32] <theadmin> mang0: That's all
[14:32] <mang0> theadmin: thankyou
[14:32] <phillyj> theadmin: its just 2 radial buttons that say "begining" or "end"
[14:33] <escott> phillyj, you can click and drag the endpoints of the rectangle in the image
[14:34] <image_q> hi, I am trying to install a program in limux 10.4 and have dependency issues with libpq5 and libpq-dev. I tried looking around but it seems like verion 9.0.1 was the last version they released this lib in. I tried compiling the newest version through rpm, but that proved useless as well. any help? http://pastebin.com/9tgHEuiy
[14:34] <phillyj> escott: there is not image
[14:34] <phillyj> i'm installing ubuntu and stuck on the partitions page
[14:35] <escott> phillyj, the diagram of the disk and its partitions above with the new partition in a different color box. you can drag the sides of that box
[14:36] <orzel111_0> serwus
[14:36] <escott> phillyj, i could be wrong and just remembering gparted. in either case if you want to use all the free space take END up to the max and Beginning to the lowest possible value
[14:36] <bashelina> wols, ok cool.. where do I change printer driver.... ??
[14:37] <phillyj> escott: i see an image of line of squared and now its mostly grey boxes with and orange box at the end
[14:37] <phillyj> i can't change it
[14:37] <wols> bashelina: localhost:631
[14:37] <bony> what is the audio device in 11.04? the requirement is that previously if want to use the audio device file i was using /dev/dsp but now i am unable to figure out the audio device file.
[14:37] <supermarket> привет
[14:37] <alter> ураааааааааааа
[14:37] <bony> in nutshell what is the replacement for /dev/dsp
[14:37] <alter> дщщщщщлждблдль
[14:38] <wols> bony: nothing, cause /dev/dsp is still there and needed for older software
[14:38] <wols>  /dev/snd/pcm I guess is what you are after
[14:39] <bashelina> wols, modify printer asks me for login user and password ......
[14:40] <escott> bashelina, does your username/password not work
[14:40] <escott> phillyj, i think that orange box is your new partition and that you can drag the sides of it to resize
[14:40] <bony> wols, yeah you are right some software require dsp. these are the files in my /dev/pcm by-path  controlC0  hwC0D0  hwC0D1  pcmC0D0c  pcmC0D0p  seq  timer
[14:41] <wols> bony: what ubuntu version?
[14:42] <bony> wols, oops sorry. I need to admit this is on debian
[14:42] <phillyj> escott: it won't let me click it
[14:42] <phillyj> ok, so i click the device "free space" and select the option "Primary", set the size, set location as "begining", use as EXT4 BUT what do i use for "mount point"
[14:42] <yuka> installing nvidia gfx drivares on ubuntu 11.04 is a nightmare dang
[14:42] <bony> wols, but i think both work the same way if i am not wrong for at least this problem?
[14:42] <escott> phillyj, you have to have a "/" for starters
[14:43] <bashelina> escott,  username:  root and corresponding password worked :)
[14:43] <pinkpuff> I have a widescreen monitor but the OS seems to think it's a regular 4:3 screen
[14:43] <phillyj> escott: so i use the first one which is the "/"?
[14:43] <tsuke> ever since the upgrade gnome crashes when I log in. not even magic keys seem to work. since the desktop is responsive for 4 or 5 seconds, I am guessing some program gets started that causes it. how can I find out who is the perpetrator?
[14:43] <escott> phillyj, if you only have 1 partition it must be "/"
[14:44] <tsuke> i am on enlightenment now, and when i start gnome-session in a terminal, it does not show error messages, just crashes after a few seconds as well in the same way
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> tsuke: does it happen as another user?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> pinkpuff: what video chip do you use?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> oh well
[14:45] <escott> tsuke, you could try removing items from gnome-session-properties until you find the one that makes the problem go away
[14:45] <tsuke> ActionParsnip: I will try now. If not, can I edit by hand what runs on login?
[14:45] <Guest31643> trying to connect usb net from terminal, but getting this error "(Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Device or resource busy)"
[14:45] <tsuke> escott: ah great that was my question
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> tsuke: sure you have the startup items manager
[14:45] <tsuke> I will try a different user now, thanks
[14:45] <khamer> Something keeps reverting any changes I make to my keyboard layout (disabling capslock) via xmodmap, any ideas?
[14:45] <phillyj> escott: ok, i did it but now, 400gb is unusable
[14:46] <jrib> khamer: can you provide more info?  Does it happen every 5 minutes? at login? when?
[14:46] <Tophen> Ok, For real this time. One final thing.
[14:46] <drampelt> hey i am having some issues with my ubuntu server; first sshd wouldn't start, then after a reboot nothing started up and after manually starting apache2 i cannot connect to my website even though i could before
[14:46] <Tophen> Do I download 32 bit or 64 bit ubuntu?
[14:46] <Tophen> My windows is on 64
[14:46] <escott> phillyj, is this your 4th primary partition?
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> Tophen: I'd go 64bit personally
[14:47] <khamer> jrib, well, I'm not sure if it is also happening at login, but ignoring that, it happens while I'm using the computer and logged in; I can change the settings with xmodmap and within... 10 minutes maybe, it'll switch back
[14:47] <phillyj> escott: i think so
[14:47] <Tophen> ok.. will it make much of a diff?
[14:47] <jrib> khamer: I see.  What version of ubuntu?
[14:47] <phillyj> escott: i'm not sure how to do it otherwise
[14:47] <Lafiir> How can I change the icons shown in the program switcher (alt+tab)?
[14:47] <escott> phillyj, i think what is happening is that you have three partitions 1,2,3 and then you are creating a 4th primary partition but your free space is non-contiguous so the 4th can fill the drive. since you can only have 4 primaries what remains is now unusable
[14:48] <paddyohgrind> hye all
[14:48] <khamer> jrib, oneiric, but I have had this problem since natty
[14:48] <paddyohgrind> im newbie
[14:48] <khamer> jrib, or rather, including natty, I didn't have this setup before then
[14:48] <jrib> khamer: let's move to #ubuntu+1
[14:48] <khamer> \join #ubuntu+1
[14:48] <hermanus> unity-2d-places seems to have a memory leak. It takes 380 mb after a couple of hours of use. what steps do i take to create a usefull error report?
[14:48] <escott> phillyj, what you should do is (a) quit the installer. (b) go to the livecd and start gparted. (c) move the partitions so that there is no free space between 1,2,3 and put 4 at the end and make it use the entire free space (or make it a logical partition to contain extended partitions)
[14:48] <khamer> jrib, sure
[14:49] <phillyj> ok, i will try
[14:50] <escott> phillyj, before you start moving partitions we should verify that they can safely be moved, which means identifying what their contents are. it should be safe to move a windows partition, but you should probably make a backup first
[14:51] <image_q> does anyone know how to install libpq-dev on ubuntu 10.4 64bit?
[14:52] <phillyj> escott: everything backed up, this is a new laptop and i made a recovery disc just in case
[14:53] <Guest31643> Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Device or resource busy  :( any help ?
[14:54] <matheus__> Hello everybody
[14:55] <matheus__> Does anybody there?
[14:55] <T1m310rd> yeah
[14:55] <matheus__> ok! lets go
[14:55] <matheus__> I get a new problem with my ubuntu 10.04
[14:56] <T1m310rd> and it is
[14:56] <T1m310rd> ?
[14:56] <T1m310rd> ?
[14:56] <matheus__> I can login, but I cant execute any task]
[14:56] <Sp4rKy> you can't ?
[14:56] <matheus__> Firefox dont work,
[14:56] <matheus__> Exactly,
[14:56] <Pici> !doesntwork
[14:56] <Sp4rKy> "I can't, don't work, I have problem" is not enough
[14:57] <Sp4rKy> :)
[14:57] <escott> matheus__, sounds like a library issue. ctrl-alt-f1 login there and then try apt-get --fix-missing?
[14:57] <matheus__> OK ok,
[14:57] <crusade_suckatal> :D
[14:57] <matheus__> Let me talk man,
[14:57] <matheus__> I will be explain it
[14:57] <escott> !oneline | matheus__
[14:57] <Pici> !enter | matheus__
[14:57] <escott> Pici, thanks
[14:57] <Pici> escott: np :)
[14:58] <mehrab> join #kubuntu
[14:59] <Zimsky> How do I connect to something started with gnu screen?
[14:59] <ikonia> Zimsky: screen -r
[14:59] <herkupus> Zimsky: you mean   screen -r  ?
[14:59] <escott> matheus__, another thing to try if apt-get --fix-missing --fix-broken doesn't do anything would be to try and start an xterm in you gui (ctrl-alt-f7 then hit the windows key then type xterm and press enter). in that xterm you should be able to type firefox-bin. if there is a missing library it should say so in the error messages
[15:00] <matheus__> So I login on my Ubuntu 10.04, when I login, appears a windows asking me about the power management.  I wait a second, and the ubuntu logon. But, in the desktop no task can be improved.
[15:00] <sda> hi all, i have to copy multiple folders, but if i copy paste one and then other it will copy them all at the same time, i would like to copy the second folder just after copy the first one and so on, how can I? on windows we have teracopy on ubuntu?
[15:00] <tsuke> I found the problem: its gnome-do. There is an exception and it looks like there is a infinite loop in Mono.Addins.Serialisation.BinaryXmlReader.Skip. When the stack reaches the maximum depth the kernel seems to die.
[15:00] <matheus__> Sorry, bad english, Im a student from Brazil
[15:01] <matheus__> And so, all the tasks I want to execute dont wotk
[15:01] <matheus__> work*
[15:01] <escott> sda, why do you care about the copy order, its probably faster to do both at the same time. you can do it from a terminal by typing cp file1 folder; cp file2 folder
[15:01] <iceroot> !bug | tsuke
[15:01] <phillyj> escott: the box looks like this: unallocated (1mb), ntfs(199mb), ext4(194gb), unallocated(390gb), ntfs[Recovery](14gb), fat32[HP tools](103mb)
[15:01] <matheus__> Any Ideas?
[15:02] <tsuke> ubottu: Im reporting it at the moment
[15:02] <crusade_suckatal> i want to ask, can facebook chat use on xchat?
[15:02] <Zimsky> Yeah, I have a screen on 6011.tty2.ubuntubox
[15:02] <phillyj> escott: i have to move the first ntfs and the ext4 into the end?
[15:02] <matheus__> Anybody?
[15:02] <escott> phillyj, so you could grow that ext4 to be 194+390 and leave only 1mb unusable. or you could make the 194+390 into a logical partition and have as many extended partitions inside it
[15:02] <Zimsky> How do I connect to that?
[15:02] <escott> phillyj, ... as you want
[15:02] <sda> escott, yes i could do with CLI with ; or &&, but if I do it with mouse i cannot, and no it's not faster read not consecutive sectors on the hard drive and make the harddrive jump some for the first folder some for the other, less file i copy at the same time faster it goes
[15:03] <herkupus> Zimsky: screen -r 6011.tty2.ubuntubox    (or -rd ...)
[15:03] <Guest31643> escott: Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Device or resource busy  :( any help ?
[15:04] <matheus__> escott, I already try to use apt-get on tty1, but dont work
[15:04] <tsuke> One more general question: Short of reinstalling a system, is there a way to revert an installation to a vanilla state? Only default programs and settings
[15:04] <phillyj> escott: how exactly do i know it is at the end and that the spaces are filled?
[15:04] <escott> sda, unless you are copying to a different drive you are already jumping to write the data out. in any case. i don't know of any nautilus preference for this. you might check gconf-editor
[15:05] <popey> tsuke: not really
[15:05] <escott> phillyj, take END up to the max. the partition has to be contiguous. so make beginning as small as possible and end as large as possible and you will have filled the entire contiguous space
[15:05] <sda> escott, different drives :) yes i know about nautilus, i though maybe it can exist a different software to do that
[15:05] <tsuke> Thank you
[15:05] <r5g> hello
[15:06] <matheus__> escott, i believe that problem it's very simple to solve, can help me?
[15:06] <Zimsky> Err, can someone help?
[15:06] <escott> matheus__, ctrl-alt-f7 and hit the windows key (between ALT and ctrl left of the spacebar) then type xterm. it should highlight the xterm application. see if that will start for you
[15:07] <herkupus> Zimsky: did you see my message?
[15:07] <r5g> is there any app that i can use to restrain some programs to connect to the internet in Ubuntu ? whenever i want to go anonymous, i've to stop them using System monitor. Isn't there a program for that ?
[15:07] <matheus__> escott, thank you, i'll try.
[15:07] <Zimsky> Yes, but I don't actually know how to connect to an instance
[15:07] <herkupus> Zimsky: screen -r   or   screen -rd  didn't work?
[15:08] <Zimsky> No
[15:08] <herkupus> Zimsky: any error message?
[15:08] <escott> sda, if the reason you are doing this is simply speed I would (a) time it to verify it is in fact faster... im skeptical of that (b) use the cli anyways because it would be less overhead (c) consider using something like rsync
[15:09] <Zimsky> Let me try It agin
[15:09] <Quantum_Ion> Does anyone run Ubuntu linux on a laptop ?
[15:09] <Quantum_Ion> Do you find that Linux runs hot on laptops ?
[15:10] <dr_willis> Quantum_Ion,  totally depends on the laptop.
[15:10] <escott> tsuke, you can probably remove some files that list packages that were explicitely installed and then clean the system. google for ubuntu cleanup
[15:10] <escott> Quantum_Ion, try powertop
[15:10] <Quantum_Ion> escott, I tried power top and laptop tools
[15:10] <Guest31643> Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Device or resource busy  :( any help ?
[15:10] <tsuke> escott: great thanks
[15:10] <Quantum_Ion> dr_willis, I have a gateway laptop
[15:10] <Guest31643> escott: seems like i get different problems every day ..... ;)
[15:10] <Quantum_Ion> dr_willis, I hate gateway ever since they took over acer
[15:11] <Quantum_Ion> dr_willis, I think acer and gateway produce the cheapest laptops out there
[15:11] <dr_willis> gateway makes a lot of laptops... :)    I got a Toshiba X505
[15:11] <Quantum_Ion> dr_willis, They say Toshiba's are long lasting
[15:12] <phillyj> escott: i extended the ext4 to take up all the free space next to it but after the ntfs boot partition and before the ext4, there is 1mb unallocated space
[15:12] <dr_willis> phillyj,  thats normal.
[15:12] <dr_willis> phillyj,  gotten to be a common practice these days.
[15:12] <escott> phillyj, and short of moving some partitions around (which is very time consuming) you won't get rid of that mb. just leave it
[15:12] <sda> escott, CLI yes is faster, i'm going to use that, but it is faster, especially with big files with consecutive sectors, i tried and studied it in computer architecture @ university, I only wanted to know if there was a program to do that! Anyway thanks!
[15:13] <html> Quantum_Ion,  maybe but my is crappy on the low to mid -range , and linux  is a little more pickyer
[15:13] <phillyj> escott: now i have no allocated space and the ext4 takes it all up so where would Windows save its files?
[15:14] <escott> phillyj, windows files are saved in the ntfs partitions
[15:14] <Quantum_Ion> html, Really unless you are doing high end graphics work, like 3D graphics with blender, you don't need much computing power nowadays, I would love to have a laptop with 12GB of ram in it
[15:14] <escott> phillyj, in particular that 199gb one
[15:15] <Quantum_Ion> Blender is really good on a Linux now you make all kinds of 3D graphics and animation it has an easier interface
[15:16] <phillyj> escott: hmm, u read tthat wrong, it is 199 mb boot partition
[15:16] <phillyj> escott: now i have not ntfs partition
[15:16] <escott> phillyj, then you did something to delete your windows partition and installation
[15:16] <Guest31643> friends, I got this, will this solve my problem ? http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Serial-HOWTO.html#ss15.12
[15:16] <dr_willis> Doh! :)
[15:17] <dr_willis> Guest31643,  do we know what your problem is? You may want to change to a Non-Guest Nick also...
[15:17] <phillyj> escott: can i just make an ntfs partition now and try to finx windows first?
[15:17] <html> Quantum_Ion,  im not talkining so much as soley on that ,  its just a crap shoot on my, like i need to mess with grub every time i do a install/dual boot..etc..
[15:17] <escott> phillyj,  unallocated (1mb) -- cant do anything about this, ntfs(199mb) -- windows boot, ext4(194gb) -- linux, unallocated(390gb) -- windows was here, ntfs[Recovery](14gb) -- rescue partition not the real os, fat32[HP tools](103mb) -- HP junk
[15:17] <Quantum_Ion> dr_willis, Have you ever heard of the MinGW project, now you install gcc and g++ on Windows Vista/7 it's great
[15:17] <escott> phillyj, no. now you get to test your restore tools
[15:17] <dr_willis> Quantum_Ion,  i dont have much need for it. :)
[15:18] <Guest31643> dr_willis:  Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Device or resource busy
[15:18] <escott> phillyj, the windows restore stuff should reset the drive back to its factory layout
[15:18] <Quantum_Ion> html, That's the problem with Grub 2 it is kind of difficult to use
[15:18] <phillyj> escott: ok, cool, then i'll come back later and figure this out
[15:19] <adamcj> can you help me with registring my accout?
[15:19] <escott> phillyj, given the layout they have from the factory it may be easier to put linux where the Recovery and HP Tools partitions are
[15:19] <escott> !register | adamcj
[15:19] <dr_willis> Its gotten to a point with new Windows Laptops. I just buy a 2nd laptop hd for it. to put linux on. :) and then get windows on to it if i need. and keep the original safe.. seems faster/easier then messing with backup/restore media.
[15:19] <adamcj> escott do i just write that here?
[15:20] <adamcj> btw this is my first ever time on linuis
[15:20] <dr_willis> But my last laptop i did that.. went to change out HDs  then realized it had a slot for a 2nd hd. :)
[15:20] <adamcj> !register | adamcj
[15:20] <Quantum_Ion> html, A funny thing happened to me with Windows, my Windows filesystem became so corrupt, that I had to re-install Windows Vista, however Windows didn't over right Linux, which was weird
[15:20] <adamcj> ubottu how do i do that?
[15:20] <escott> adamcj, if you can do it out of channel in the "freenode" channel that would be preferred
[15:21] <adamcj> okay i will but again how
[15:21] <adamcj> can i have steps
[15:21] <Guest31643> :)
[15:21] <Quantum_Ion> the great thing about ubuntu linux is no damn viruses what so ever
[15:21] <stephan> hey guys last few minutes i started a low-performance game and switchted from fullscreen to windows-mode.  ubuntu freezed ; i could kill the process but the graphic-interface was freezed. so i had to restart. what should i do? i have often the problem that my ubuntu freezes
[15:21] <escott> adamcj, please see the link in the messages ubottu has sent you
[15:21] <Quantum_Ion> I never had a virus on Linux which caused me to reinstall Ubuntu Linux
[15:21] <matheus__> escott, i can enter in the xterm terminal, but i still can't run any application
[15:21] <stephan> i have read that i should watch the var/log/syslog but i dont know where i could find any hints for my problem
[15:21] <escott> matheus__, thats good. type firefox-bin and it should spit out a bunch of error messages
[15:22] <escott> matheus__, sorry just firefox
[15:22] <Quantum_Ion> Windows is a different story, seems like every year I end up reinstalling Windows Vista for some odd reason, something always gets corrupted
[15:22] <auronandace> Quantum_Ion: do you have a support question?
[15:22] <matheus__> escott, i try to use apt-get to install elinks, but after i type the command and hit enter, nothing appear in terminal.
[15:23] <escott> matheus__, one problem at a time, please.
[15:23] <escott> stephan, its likely some issue with the graphics card drivers. what graphics card do you have
[15:24] <Quantum_Ion> dr_willis, Do you know you can make a portable installation of Ubuntu Linux on a usb hardrive, and walk up to anyonws Windows computer and you don't even need to know their password and access their filesystems it's great
[15:24] <matheus__> escott, ok! i'll try now. waiting for me.
[15:24] <matheus__> thanks
[15:26] <alexxio> hi
[15:28] <alexxio> after some driver (ati card?) or something wrong i did, my ubuntu starts without the tray bar and without the possibility to hit alt+f2 to run programs, i remember that i uninstalled unity because of poor system performances and after that my gnome doesn't work no more...can you please help me reconfiguring it as default?
[15:28] <GreenCloud> alexxio: hello
[15:28] <a111> Whats that package that makes linux servers show up in windows network view
[15:28] <escott> !samba | a111
[15:29] <adamcj> #rooms
[15:29] <ThinkT510> alexxio: you shouldn't uninstall unity, its built ontop of gnome
[15:29] <ThinkT510> !classic | alexxio
[15:30] <alexxio> doh! ok
[15:31] <matheus__> escott, when i type firefox in the xterm terminal, nothing appear... when i type firefox in tty1, the message appear: can't set display.
[15:32] <escott> matheus__, we know its not going to do anything in the tty1. does it say anything in the xterminal?
[15:34] <matheus__> escott, yes, nothing, i typed firefox and hit enter, and the pointer down a line, it's only... nothing happening.
[15:35] <escott> matheus__, odd. lets try something simpler. gnome-terminal
[15:35] <dvdr>  on natty, ive setup hostapd as per http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/hostapd. I am using a wireless card with the b43 linux driver. I am trying to connect to that using an android tab. When I run hostapd, the tab sees my new wireless network. However, when I try to connect, it says "connected" for about 5 seconds then it continuously reconnects, staying connected for about 5 seconds then reconnecting again. In the meantime, I don't appear to be conn
[15:38] <matheus__> escott, tty1 is a gnome-terminal? i can use the tty1, tty2, but when i run any command, nothing hapenning, the pointer down a line and stay there... tty7 is that the problem... after logon, i receive a message about the power-manager its not respond... i wait... and can logon... but i can't do anything...
[15:39] <escott> matheus__, stop using tty1 use the xterm. im hoping to get an error message from within x as to why your gui apps aren't working
[15:39] <matheus__> something happenings with xterm..
[15:40] <matheus__> escott, undestand, what i do now?
[15:40] <nkh> hello , I have an Ubuntu arm port installed on my flash and I had the .ICEAuthority problem, I could not boot into root on my arm based device and chown this file and I want do it with my Laptop, but chown does not recognize the user , I lloked at the help, seem chown --reference==RFILE should help but I didn't figured out which file to use instead of RFILE, which file contains users and Qroups? /etc/passwd didnt work :(
[15:40] <nkh> looked*
[15:41] <escott> matheus__, when you run "gnome-terminal" in your xterm does anything happen
[15:44] <Obfuscation> anyone available for help with an error on dependencies in Natty?
[15:45] <nkh> !ask Obfuscation
[15:45] <Obfuscation> Every time I try to install Eclipse through Ubuntu Software Center, I get an error saying that some dependencies will not  be met, and aren't installable. I looked, and found a reported bug, but it said the fix was to use Software Center
[15:45] <escott> !anyone | Obfuscation
[15:46] <Ramses> ubuntu works on an 386 machine?
[15:46] <Obfuscation> I  only ask so people that may be able to help with the problem will know to look for the screen name, and not have to run their eyes all over a screen wondering who they may be able to help
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:46] <dcg> nkh: if you know what permissions the file needs to have, just use "chmod u=rw .ICEAuthority" for example. then also do the same for chown. eg: "chown yourusername:yourgroup .ICEAuthority"
[15:46] <escott> Obfuscation, my personal opinion is that its not worth installing eclipse through apt because it just makes the plugins that much more difficult to work with. but you might try installing through apt and seeing what exactly is missing
[15:47] <dcg> you don't actually have to use a reference file, to be honnest I have only ever used it in specialised scripts, never from the command line.
[15:47] <sw0rdfish> hey guys will it be ok if I download the 2.3.3.deb package of krita for 11.04 into a 10.10 OS FROM here --->  http://pkgs.org/package/krita
[15:49] <Lafiir> Obfuscation: I fount out that Software Center also says this when installing a package requires removing another one. Try it in Synaptics to see if this is the case.
[15:49] <Penguin> zec0 online?
[15:49] <edbian> sw0rdfish: Just use the 10.10 package they provide on that page.
[15:50] <sw0rdfish> the new version has a lot more brushes and plugins ...etc thats why I'm asking :)
[15:50] <szal> sw0rdfish: how about upgrading your KDE to Natty level from kubuntu-backports?
[15:50] <Seven_Six_Two> is it just me, or are there problems with power management in 11.04 recently? I'm having trouble with shutdown and reboot (from menu) and also with suspend. shutdown/reboot just goes to a black screen sometimes and I have to hard reset b/c nothing else does anything. Suspend suspends, but sometimes resumes to a text screen with errors. Unfortunately I didn't write them down...
[15:50] <escott> dcg, he seems to have logged off
[15:50] <sw0rdfish> szal, I'm on gnome actually
[15:50] <matheus__> escott, i'll try now type gnome-terminal
[15:50] <matheus__> wainting for me.
[15:50] <cordoval_> I have a /etc/init.d/vnstat script . How can I make it so that it runs at boot start up?
[15:51] <uriel_> hey can someone help me? im using an HP computer and 11.04 isnt playing nice with it, no right click
[15:52] <dr_willis> HP makes a large varity of computers.. give details...
[15:52] <Seven_Six_Two> uriel_, what input device are you using?
[15:52] <[HzF]Rocker> Hey, how can i get the stupid wifi working? - i have latest ubuntu and latest driver, but the Connect button is greyed out :(
[15:52] <uriel_> its a pavilion dv5 with that new touchpad
[15:52] <escott> uriel_, does xev show a right click. open a terminal, type xev. when you click in the box you should see text in the terminal
[15:53] <lion42> [HzF]Rocker, what wireless card? Was it previously working in ubuntu?
[15:53] <uriel_> ill try that escott
[15:53] <cordoval> I am reading sudo update-rc.d, is that the only option to run a script at start up, mine is /etc/init.d/vnstat
[15:54] <dr_willis> cordoval,  the update-rc.d is the old sysv method. Ubuntu uses Upstart. so that is NOT the only option to run stuff at boot time.
[15:54] <gimpy1672> I have a wierd issue with OpenOffice on 10.10 x64.  When I have document open on anything but workspace 1 and scoll up or down in the document, it brings me to workspace 1.  No matter what I do, scrolling in an OpenOffice document switches me to workspace 1, any ideas?
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a http redirecting service to bypass router restrictions
[15:54] <dr_willis> cordoval,  one way. commands in /etc/rc.local    or make a upstart script in /etc/init/
[15:54] <uriel_> @escott no it doesnt show, however if i drag right  bit as i do it it does show up.
[15:54] <Pici> lotuspsychje: That doesn't sound like an Ubuntu support question.
[15:54] <[HzF]Rocker> it has been working way back, but it was almost a year ago, and back then i had ubuntu 10.04, which i lost, 10.10 don't work with the wifi either
[15:54] <Seven_Six_Two> lotuspsychje, you could use tor
[15:55] <cordoval> dr_willis: thanks, is upstart available on the repos i guess going to check now. The script is already in /etc/init.d/vnstat
[15:55] <Ramses> may I install it in a 486 then?
[15:55] <dr_willis> cordoval,  upstart is the default...
[15:55] <dr_willis> !upstart
[15:55] <escott> uriel_, thats xev showing you the drag event a click event consists of a KeyMapNotify and a ButtonRelease event
[15:55] <uriel_> ill check it.
[15:56] <Ramses> please, do it
[15:56] <uriel_> txev
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> Seven_Six_Two: tnx for hint, would vpn for ubuntu do that too?
[15:56] <[HzF]Rocker> What can i do about my issue?
[15:56] <uriel_> xev
[15:57] <Seven_Six_Two> lotuspsychje, it could, but vpn wouldn't be the easier of the two.
[15:57] <uriel_> @escott yes it does register.
[15:57] <cordoval> dr_willis: but it is not installed by default on ubuntu natty right?
[15:57] <dr_willis> cordoval,  upstart is the Default init system.. its replaceing sysv.
[15:58] <Seven_Six_Two> lotuspsychje, all you need is a proxy. If you need the resources on another network, or you want your browsing to be done through a consistent and known network, then vpn would be better
[15:58] <dr_willis> cordoval,  your old sysv scripts are actually getting ran by some Upstart scripts.
[15:58] <Lafiir> I need more help regarding libnotify-pidgin. I just does not work in IRC when set to "Only new Conversations". Most irritating is, I had one successful event earlier but I don't know why. Ideas?
[15:58] <escott> uriel_, "it does register" you mean you are seeing KeyMapNotify and ButtonRelease when right clicking the touchpad? are they events different from when you left click
[15:58] <dr_willis> cordoval,  in each new release, sysv slowly fades out a little more :)
[15:58] <Seven_Six_Two> lotuspsychje, otherwise, just use Tor with a browser button or vidalia
[15:58] <cordoval> dr_willis: i took vnstat from the repos, sudo apt-get install vnstat, and installed default, so
[15:59] <cordoval> it is not my script but I am pretty sure it is the old way of running the daemon then
[15:59] <theadmin> Lafiir: Probably ask in #pidgin
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> Seven_Six_Two: tnx
[15:59] <cordoval> so i guess I should assume that upstart is installed on my ubuntu
[15:59] <Guest8005> hey anyone can help me to use wifi in my acer laptop
[15:59] <dr_willis> cordoval,  actually that SysV.# script  may be a link to a /etc/init/ script.. but ive  totally missed the actual problem by now... :)
[15:59] <Seven_Six_Two> lotuspsychje, if it's just for one website you could also use a web-based proxy like proxify.com or ninjaproxy.com
[16:00] <shadu> could anyone help me with my sound? Whenever i change the volume level i get some noise with the sound playing, i can fix this by sliding the surround slider in the alsa mixer all the way down and then back up, but its annoying to have to do that every single time
[16:00] <edbian> Guest8005: yeah.  What card do you have?
[16:00] <Ramses> did someone know of a ubuntu release compiled with the Intel optimized compiler?
[16:00] <Guest8005> its laptop
[16:01] <Guest8005> how can I find which card is being used???
[16:01] <edbian> Guest8005: Yes, I know.  What card do you have?  (sudo lspci | grep Network   will tell you)
[16:01] <Guest8005> pls wait
[16:01] <uriel_> escott, it seems to be the same as a left click. i can rightclick if i drag the mouse right as i right click, but not by simply pushing it as usual
[16:01] <AlexDevilLX> Havent been here so long
[16:01] <AlexDevilLX> I have written dvd with brasero but windows cant read it
[16:01] <edbian> Guest8005: waiting...
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> Seven_Six_Two: the proxy websites are also blocked by the linux router restrictions (hotspot provider)
[16:02] <Obfuscation> @AlexDevilLX: I had a similar problem and someone  told me to make sure the disk was "finalized"
[16:02] <[HzF]Rocker> Hey! - I'm stuck with a problem here :o
[16:02] <escott> uriel_, ok. a forum posting mentioned this sudo add-apt-repository ppa:utouch-team/utouch. i don't know whether or not this would work for you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1674153
[16:02] <Guest8005> it doesnt gave any output
[16:02] <Juandev> hello guys
[16:02] <AlexDevilLX> how to make it finalized?
[16:02] <AlexDevilLX> heh i'm a noob
[16:03] <Juandev> I am looking for bubuntu iso bootable any link?
[16:04] <cordoval> i did initctl list | grep vnstat and it is not there
[16:04] <tsimpson> Juandev: what is "bubuntu"?
[16:04] <Seven_Six_Two> lotuspsychje, if you're at a hotspot, you can probably set manual dns servers for that hotspot. edit the connection, change auto dns to google's public dns servers <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:04] <Juandev> tsimpson: heh sorry, thats a different tribe
[16:04] <Ramses> hello Juandev
[16:04] <cordoval> after reading upstart i don't get it how to simply just run this daemon at start up
[16:04] <Seven_Six_Two> lotuspsychje, you might have to reconnect to the hotspot (not sure)
[16:04] <cordoval> dr_willis: you confused me
[16:04] <[HzF]Rocker> Anybody able to help me? - I wanna use wifi >.<
[16:05] <Guest8005> hey its not gave any result
[16:05] <uriel_> escott, ill give it a shot thanks!
[16:05] <escott> cordoval, probalby easier to look at the upstart jobs in /etc/init/
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> Seven_Six_Two: i hear good things about mullvad too for ubuntu (swedish vpn)
[16:05] <shadu> could anyone help me with my sound? Whenever i change the volume level i get some noise with the sound playing, i can fix this by sliding the surround slider in the alsa mixer all the way down and then back up, but its annoying to have to do that every single time
[16:05] <cordoval> escott: i remember you
[16:05] <cordoval> escott: you mean init.d and not just init
[16:06] <dr_willis> cordoval,  upstart uses /etc/init/   sysv uses /etc/init.d/
[16:06] <escott> cordoval, no i mean /etc/init/*.conf
[16:06] <cordoval> oh !
[16:06] <Guest8005> Hey ED pls help me...
[16:06] <cordoval> so my daemon script is currently in /etc/init.d/vnstat
[16:06] <dr_willis> Look in the directories.. most of the init.d/whatever files are links to init/upstart  scripts
[16:06] <cordoval> no wonder, so I perhaps need to move it to /etc/init/
[16:06] <cordoval> oh ok now it makes more sense
[16:07] <dr_willis> cordoval,  dont be trying to bypass things like that.. :)
[16:07] <cordoval> bypass?
[16:07] <Seven_Six_Two> lotuspsychje, maybe, but if you just need to get to sites blocked at a public hotspot, setting your own dns will probably do the trick. It depends on the talent of the person setting it up  ;)
[16:07] <cordoval> not sure what you mean be clear please
[16:07] <escott> cordoval, you shouldn't move it. but if you want it to be an upstart job and not an sysv init script you could rewrite it as an upstart conf file
[16:07] <dr_willis> explore how the files are linked and stuff.. dont be moving stuff from init.d to init.
[16:07] <tbearden> Need some assistance... whenever i try to reboot my system, it just hangs, but it works properly when i shutdown
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> Seven_Six_Two: its pretty talented because its a linux restricted hotspot with lotta proxy's added to restrictions
[16:08] <dr_willis> cordoval,  perhaps its time to go back and restate the Original Problem...
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> Seven_Six_Two: any url you know of that could bypass such?
[16:08] <cordoval> escott: that makes more sense, so a rewrite is a lot of work since it is a long script
[16:08] <tbearden> using ubuntu 11.04
[16:08] <cordoval> escott: perhaps i should explore how a link is done
[16:08] <tbearden> brand new install
[16:08] <cordoval> I just need to run /etc/init.d/vnstat whenever i turn on my computer
[16:08] <tbearden> i have SSD drive if that makes a difference
[16:09] <dr_willis> cordoval,  call it from /etc/rc.local is one way... 'service vnstat start'  is one way....
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> tbearden: wich ssd slc or mlc an brand pls?
[16:09] <shadu> could anyone help me with my sound? Whenever i change the volume level i get some noise with the sound playing, i can fix this by sliding the surround slider in the alsa mixer all the way down and then back up, but its annoying to have to do that every single time
[16:09] <dr_willis> cordoval,  not the 'best' way. but a way. :)
[16:09] <Seven_Six_Two> lotuspsychje, but they might only be blocking the dns requests. The Starbucks and Coffee Culture I go to both filter sites with DNS. By not using their dns, nothing is blocked, and then I use a proxy or Tor for privacy
[16:09] <wrongturn> do old apps work with gnome3? i can't find cheese locate will find folder but where is the app?
[16:09] <cordoval> dr_willis: that is what i was looking for actually
[16:09] <Guest8005> r u der ed
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> Seven_Six_Two: nice, tnx for the trick mate
[16:10] <tbearden> lotuspsychje: ATA Samsung SSD PM81, revision AXM0
[16:10] <dr_willis> cordoval,  alternativly make a link from /etc/rc3.d/S##vnstat that points to /etc/init.d/vnstat
[16:10] <propman> wrongturn:  try    which cheese
[16:10] <cordoval> did ack-grep 'init.d' . and nothing on the init directory
[16:10] <cordoval> so no links
[16:10] <Seven_Six_Two> lotuspsychje, np.
[16:11] <cordoval> /etc/rc3.d?
[16:11] <Guest8005> oooook thax bye
[16:11] <dr_willis> cordoval,  thats the sysv method.. each runlevel has a rc#.x dir
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> tbearden: did you try sudo reboot in terminal, see what is does?
[16:11] <wrongturn> propman the camera cheese program if that helps
[16:11] <dr_willis> !runlevel
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> lmpolù$µ
[16:12] <cordoval> dr_willis: tell me more about the simple method rc.local
[16:12] <propman> wrongturn:  in terminal type the following:    which cheese      that will return the directory where cheese is installed
[16:12] <dr_willis> actually i think runlevel '2' is the ubuntu default isent it? not 3.
[16:12] <soidexe> hey there! why some checkboxes in Update Manager are disabled? it's "Complete Generic Linux kernel" package and related packages. Why can't I install them?
[16:12] <dr_willis> cordoval,  whats to tell.. its a file with a list of commands... go edit it.. :)
[16:13] <dr_willis> cordoval,  be sure your commands are befor the last 'exit 0' command.
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> lmpolù$µ
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> 17
[16:13] <wrongturn> /usr/bin/cheese
[16:13] <escott> !runlevel | dr_willis
[16:13] <tbearden> lotuspsychje:  I just ran "sudo shutdown - r now".  hangs on "asking all remaining processes to terminate... own...locess (2073) kiled by TERM signaled by TERM signaller/server
[16:14] <tbearden> lotuspsychje:  this is also x64 and not x32
[16:14] <Juandev> how to find out wrong driver on Windows XP, when booting Ubuntu?
[16:14] <escott> dr_willis, ie until you go tweaking your rc's i think it boots to 5 but runs the same stuff as 1,2,3,4
[16:14] <cordoval> you mean bashrc
[16:14] <propman> wrongturn:  paste /usr/bin/cheese into terminal and see if cheese comes up
[16:14] <escott> dr_willis, i take that back it does boot to 2 nm
[16:15] <dr_willis> escott,  but if one was to add their own custome script.. should it go in rc2.3 rc3.d or.......
[16:15] <wrongturn> propman k
[16:15] <escott> dr_willis, presumably 2 and up
[16:15] <guru_> hey edbian I got card name its "Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC"
[16:15] <t4nk451> xrandr --newmode... returns, xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default. How can I fix this?
[16:15] <dr_willis> escott,  seems weird it would run every script in every runlevel....   unless theres some magic goin gon.
[16:16] <guru_> edbian::::::::: I got card,,, its "Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC" next what to do????
[16:16] <wrongturn> propman yep thx that's a start
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> µtbearden: might check logs for any services that wont shutdown?
[16:17] <propman> wrongturn: yw
[16:17] <edbian> guru_: I have to go :(  ask in the channel! :D
[16:17] <escott> dr_willis, i think you can jump runlevels. to go from 2 to reboot you don't have to go up to 5 you can jump 2->6 so i think a normal boot jumps 0->2
[16:17] <edbian> guru_: Look it up here: http://linuxwireless.org/
[16:17] <escott> dr_willis, therefore if you wanted a process to run at levels above 2 you would need it in all runlevels above 2
[16:17] <edbian> guru_: run dmesg and look at what it says about your wifi card
[16:18] <dr_willis> escott,  right. its  how they are configured that makes them all the same..   each is an identical copy of the others.
[16:18] <Seven_Six_Two> t4nk451, are you manually specifying a gamma triplet in that command?
[16:18] <AlexDevilLX> Ok
[16:19]  * dr_willis wonders why *root* keeps changeing nicknames..
[16:19] <t4nk451> Seven_Six_Two: I'm not sure what you mean, here is my command: xrandr --newmode "1280x768_60.00"  80.14  1280 1344 1480 1680  768 769 772 795  -HSync +Vsync
[16:19] <sveinse> I have a network adapter which I am unable to get to work. If I run "ip addr show dev eth1" it returns "2: eth1: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN qlen 1000". It seems the eth link is down, yet the link leds on the nic adapter sais there is link. What can I do?
[16:20] <dr_willis> BBL.
[16:23] <mgolisch> sveinse: this just means the device state is down
[16:23] <mgolisch> sveinse: you didnt configure nor bring the device up
[16:23] <Seven_Six_Two> t4nk451, I don't use xrandr, but the man page says --gamma red:green:blue  where rgb are floating point correction values. I presume 0:0:0 or 1:1:1 would be "no correction"
[16:23] <Layke> I just installed Ubuntu from the website, Iḿ using it as a desktop for development. 1) How can I get sound to work? 2) How can I get my second monitor to work in Unity?
[16:23] <sveinse> mgolisch: How? ip link set eth1 up ? Doen't help anything
[16:24] <escott> Seven_Six_Two, i would try 0.5:0.5:0.5
[16:24] <mgolisch> sveinse: what does it say?
[16:24] <Seven_Six_Two> t4nk451, escott's msg was for you...  :)
[16:25] <sveinse> mgolisch: Nothing. Returns success
[16:25] <linux> hi
[16:25] <escott> sveinse, then ifconfig should show it as being up
[16:25] <AlexDevilLX> Ok
[16:25] <guru_> oook thanx
[16:26] <mgolisch> sveinse: next would be adding an ip address and setting a route
[16:26] <sveinse> escott, The status line shows that the ip link set sets the device to UP (within the < >), while the actual state is DOWN
[16:26] <tbearden> lotuspsychje: which log should i start looking in?  i looked through dmesg and didn't find anything useful for this issue
[16:26] <sveinse> mgolisch: I've done that, I just didnt verbose it here
[16:27] <t4nk451> Seven_Six_Two: The reason why I want to use xrandr is to set my dpi. X11 initialized my dpi to be, 3x0, which is incorrext. Do you know any way I can fix this?
[16:27] <sveinse> escott: Everything seems normal from ipconfig.
[16:27] <mgolisch> sveinse: check dmesg then
[16:27] <escott> t4nk451, i think you can just call xrandr -dpi have you looked at the man page
[16:28] <sveinse> However, strange enough, ethtool eth1 returns No such device
[16:28] <t4nk451> escott: I have, xrandr --dpi 96 gives me the same error
[16:28] <Seven_Six_Two> tbearden, are you mounting from another pc with nfs?
[16:28] <damagednoob> i'm trying to get my networking working. i can resolve dns correctly and ping addresses but i can't download a webpage. can anyone help me?
[16:29] <damagednoob> i've set a static ip via /etc/network/interfaces
[16:29] <escott> t4nk451, what kind of graphics card is this?
[16:30] <mgolisch> damagednoob: did you set a gateway/route?
[16:30] <damagednoob> i haven't no
[16:30] <mgolisch> sveinse: did you google? maybe its a known problem with that card/chip
[16:30] <damagednoob> i've set a Gate in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:30] <damagednoob> Gate = Gateway
[16:30] <tbearden> Seven_Six_Two:  this is an ubuntu 11 setup, not NFS, it's using ext4
[16:30] <damagednoob> but nothing in iptables
[16:30] <mgolisch> thats okay
[16:30] <sveinse> mgolisch: I could seems like it, yes. Thanks anyways
[16:31] <Seven_Six_Two> damagednoob, can you load a webpage using the site's ip address?try <IP_ADDRESS> in your browser
[16:31] <Layke> Dual monitors possible in Unity?
[16:31] <mgolisch> damagednoob: so you can resolve dns hosts? and you can ping them?
[16:31] <damagednoob> mgolisch, yes
[16:31] <escott> Layke, yes but its not particularly configurable
[16:32] <damagednoob> Seven_Six_Two, I'm on Ubuntu 10.04 server in a vm so i'm using wget
[16:32] <Arney> An update killed Unity, now I get 'Unsupported hardware' msg. Where Should I look to fix it.
[16:32] <damagednoob> my host operating system can navigate to ubuntu.com
[16:32] <t4nk451> escott: lspci gives me "VGA compatible controller: VMware SVGA II Adapter"
[16:32] <Layke> escott: Is it obvious how to get my second monitor enabled? Cause I can see the option.
[16:32] <Seven_Six_Two> tbearden, I use 11.04 on my laptop, and ext4 as well, but when I mount a share from my desktop and shut down, it seems my wireless disconnects before my nfs shares can unmount, and it messes up shutdown or reboot
[16:32] <mgolisch> damagednoob: so your problem is downloading something using wget?
[16:33] <damagednoob> mgolisch, yes, that's how i'm testing my access to the internet
[16:33] <escott> t4nk451, does the vmware driver support xrandr fully?
[16:33] <mgolisch> damagednoob: what error does it give?
[16:33] <matheus__> escott, after type gnome-terminal and hit enter, one screen white appear, but is a screen white, a little high that xterm, not appear nothing to type... just screen white big...
[16:33] <damagednoob> mgolisch: Connecting to <IP_ADDRESS>:80... failed: Connection timed out.
[16:34] <damagednoob> hmm, i can't access that from my desktop browser
[16:34] <Seven_Six_Two> damagednoob, I got that from pinging google. you might get different results from your own ping
[16:35] <t4nk451> escott: I don't know, how can I check?
[16:35] <escott> matheus__, ok hit ctrl-c to kill that terminal then type "ps aux | grep compiz | grep -v grep" and see if anything prints out
[16:35] <escott> t4nk451, check the vmware website?
[16:35] <damagednoob> this is what i get when i wget google: http://pastebin.com/9Bzxg4pZ
[16:35] <geordiejohn> hello i am using Ubuntu 11.04 and i need an application to use my Kindle any ideas please?
[16:35] <matheus__> escott, ok!
[16:36] <Seven_Six_Two> geordiejohn, I would suggest calibre
[16:36] <tbearden> Seven_Six_Two:  in this case, yesterday, when I noticed the issue, i had mounted a folder via SSHFS, but today I totally reloaded the OS, haven't loaded the SSHFS folder, and am still having the issue.  it only happens when i reboot, not when i shutdown
[16:36] <geordiejohn> i tried calibre but it does not see any of my books or even charge the kindle
[16:37] <mgolisch> damagednoob: this is a vm?
[16:37] <cubuntu> geordiejohn: Have you tried running the official Windows application using Wine?
[16:37] <mgolisch> damagednoob: maybe your networking is broken or configured wrong
[16:37] <t1me10rd> stuck in tty, when i go to gui unity is stuck not loading
[16:37] <Ramses> what version of ubuntu should I install?
[16:38] <geordiejohn> no i hoped there would be one for linux
[16:38] <Seven_Six_Two> geordiejohn, the software has nothing to do with charging (or shouldn't), and kindle uses drm, so books on there might not be manageable without their software. You could maybe try to run the windows version with wine, but that option wouldn't be supported here
[16:38] <damagednoob> mgolisch, maybe, but i don't understand why i can ping external sites and resolve dns
[16:38] <cubuntu> Amazon don't offer one, I suggest using the official Windows application. You can easily pirate Windows XP etc. in a separate partition
[16:39] <mgolisch> damagednoob: what type of networking did you configure?
[16:39] <geordiejohn> ok i will try wine,thank you
[16:39] <t1me10rd> sorry i missed some, what's wrong?
[16:39] <Seven_Six_Two> cubuntu, please don't advocate software piracy in here.
[16:39] <Ramses> I never saw a pirated windows...
[16:39] <RobinJ> help? Google Chome suddenly takes up to about 90% CPU
[16:39] <p1l0t> Is the 'For Purchase' software still open source? I would still pay for it, I'm just curious if its still.. kosher so-to-speak
[16:40] <cubuntu> Seven_Six_Two: My apologies
[16:40] <mgolisch> RobinJ: you on some flash page?
[16:40] <RobinJ> yes, and flash also doesnt work correctly anymore
[16:40] <t1me10rd> there's a free os, i forget what's called, but it lets u use windows applications. kinda reversed engineered windows
[16:40] <cubuntu> p1l0t: Not all of Ubuntu is even open source, so you're using the wrong distribution if you want to be truly FOSS...
[16:40] <mgolisch> RobinJ: probably related to flash then
[16:40] <t4nk451> escott: looks like vmware doesn't support xrandr fully
[16:40] <mgolisch> flash sucks
[16:40] <RobinJ> i have to refresh pages 5 times sometimes before i get the actual image/animation/... in stead of only the sound
[16:40] <Seven_Six_Two> cubuntu, np.
[16:40] <t1me10rd> virtualbox
[16:40] <geordiejohn> quit
[16:40] <RobinJ> indeed, but youtube uses flash ;p
[16:40] <RobinJ> so do a lot of other sites
[16:41] <Kyle__> RobinJ: Some javascript heavy pages can do that...
[16:41] <p1l0t> cubuntu: I would prefer to be FOSS, although I <3 Ubuntu
[16:41] <Layke> a
[16:41] <Kyle__> RobinJ: You can log into youtube and set your account to use html5 video instead :)
[16:41] <mgolisch> RobinJ: yeah still it never worked well for me on linux
[16:41] <RobinJ> i know
[16:41] <mgolisch> compared to mac or windows
[16:41] <damagednoob> mgolisch, I originally set it up as dhcp and am now trying to configure a static ip because this vm is going into production, my networking is here: http://pastebin.com/mGh1QBqM
[16:41] <RobinJ> but it doesnt solve the probmem for other websites
[16:41] <BluesKaj> RobinJ, sudo apr-get install flashplugin-installer
[16:41] <RobinJ> that doesnt work for google chrome, does it?
[16:42] <RobinJ> i had to use some kind of weird ppa for 64-bit flash for chrome
[16:42] <BluesKaj> apt-get RobinJ
[16:42] <BluesKaj> RobinJ, yes it does
[16:42] <mgolisch> maybe thats why
[16:42] <mgolisch> the 64bit flash is even worse
[16:43] <BluesKaj> I'm running 64 bit flash...works fine on chrome
[16:43] <mgolisch> damagednoob: is that bridged network?
[16:43] <safire_> http://brillig.cs.umd.edu/umd-csd-apt/ umdcsd/main csd-test amd64 1.0d <-- can anyone tell me why I'm getting 404 for this?
[16:43] <oledole2> Q: Is there a way to have data on a server that even root can't access? Im thinking something like an encrypted partition that only I can mount, providing a private key, or something?
[16:44] <safire_> I can see the .deb when I browse to it
[16:44] <safire_> yes.. full disk encryption
[16:45] <safire_> or partition or what have you
[16:45] <Kyle__> oledole2: Root will always be able to access the file and memory of the user, so even if you did an encrypted file, and didn't ever store the key on the drive, root would be able to peek at the mmemory.
[16:45] <damagednoob> mgolisch, i'm using hyper-v so the terminology is a bit different. they call it 'external' which translates to this: 'Creates a connection to a physical network adapter so that virtual machines can access a physical network.'. I'm pretty sure the answer to your question is yes though
[16:45] <safire_> if the key isn't in memory, it's not possible, even as root, is it?
[16:46] <cubuntu> safire_: No, it's not possible
[16:46] <crusade_suckatal> what the different between root and su?can anybody help me to explain
[16:46] <oledole2> but i guess once i log in an mount it, the root user will be able to access the data
[16:46] <oledole2> for as long as i mount it
[16:46] <seanmc98> hello, i was wondering how you make a .txt file in 11.04
[16:46] <mgolisch> damagednoob: maybe some firewall blocks your traffic
[16:46] <mgolisch> damagednoob: never worked with hyper-v
[16:46] <safire_> possibly, but I think you'd have to be highly skilled in order to do it
[16:46] <damagednoob> yeah, i think you're right
[16:47] <damagednoob> mgolisch, i just used wget to download from an internal web server using it's FQDN
[16:47] <damagednoob> and it worked
[16:47] <oledole2> Kyle__: tanks for the clarification, much appreciated
[16:47] <tbearden> seanmc98: nano /home/<user>/documents/document.txt
[16:47] <Kyle__> crusade_suckatal: su is a command to switch user.  Root is an account, the account that owns the OS to be exact.
[16:47] <sveinse> When looking at dmesg I see that the kernel finds eth0, but udev later renamed eth0 to eth1. How can I disable that rename?
[16:47] <tcsadmin> anyone by chance running a squid/dansguardian/clamav proxy server behind a cisco asa 5505?
[16:48] <Kyle__> crusade_suckatal: we kindof talk about them as if they are the same, becuase you can su to root (or sudo to root), to run commands as root.
[16:48] <tbearden> still need help w/ my system not wanting to reboot
[16:48] <Ramses> Kyle__ you really know about this subject
[16:48] <safire_> http://brillig.cs.umd.edu/umd-csd-apt/ umdcsd/main csd-test amd64 1.0d <-- can anyone tell me why I'm getting 404 for this when apt-get install csd-test?
[16:48] <Seven_Six_Two> crusade_suckatal, root is a user (disabled in Ubuntu) that has admin rights. su is a command to switch users, sudo is a command to run another command with root privileges
[16:48] <tbearden> it will shutdown fine, but hangs on reboot
[16:48] <Kyle__> Ramses: A bit.
[16:48] <safire_> I see the .deb in the browser.. and I see it in Packages.gz
[16:48] <mgolisch> damagednoob: still that server has a different ip so it could still be some rule in your outbound firewall
[16:49] <crusade_suckatal> owh now i see. thank for the info.
[16:49] <tbearden> i'm not using wifi, just eth0, running ubuntu 11 x64, no mounted network drives
[16:49] <b_z_> hi i have sony fw laptop i can install ubuntu ?
[16:49] <linknn> Hello. I'm having trouble with some .doc and .docx documents on ubuntu 11.04. They contain images and libreoffice doesnt show them. Is that a security feature or a bug?
[16:50] <crusade_suckatal> can facebook chat use in XChat?
[16:50] <tbearden> hangs on reboot even if there is no network connection what so ever
[16:50] <damagednoob> mgolisch, yeah i agree with you
[16:50] <damagednoob> mgolisch, i'll speak to our ops guys about it. thanks for you help
[16:50] <Ramses> my software company may need your expertise
[16:50] <RobinJ> why am i suddenly getting an urge to cry out loud "UBUNTU SUCKS!"??
[16:50] <aibo> hi what does 'mountall: disconnected from plymouth' error means?
[16:50] <aibo> i am using ubuntu server with NO X
[16:50] <mgolisch> RobinJ: why do you?
[16:50] <RobinJ> on my desktop ubiquity just crqshed, qnd my lqptop just froze entirely
[16:51] <gimpy1380> I have a wierd issue with OpenOffice <IP_ADDRESS> on Ubuntu 10.10 x64.  When I have document open on anything but workspace 1 and scoll up or down in the document, it brings me to workspace 1.  No matter what I do, scrolling in an OpenOffice document switches me to workspace 1, any ideas?
[16:51] <Seven_Six_Two> b_z_, it's likely that you can. You can try it with the install disc before you install it, although some things won't be there, like some drivers (for licensing reasons)
[16:51] <b_z_> pls help me i have sony vaio fw 550 i can install ubuntu?
[16:51] <matheus__> escott, i typed "ps aux | grep compiz | grep -v grep"
[16:51] <matheus__> no list nothing.
[16:51] <RobinJ> honestly there isn't any decent os in existance at the moment
[16:51] <gimpy1380> RobinJ: #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:52] <seanmc98> thank you tbe
[16:52] <seanmc98> tbearden, *
[16:52] <Ramses> this is not a secret RobinJ
[16:52] <Layke> When cycling between windows using alt tab.. is there a way to make the preview images larger?
[16:52] <tbearden> seanmc98: not sure what u mean by '*'
[16:52] <matheus__> escott, not listing. Not list nothing.
[16:52] <b_z_> Seven_Six_Two: tnx for awnser i install 10.10 or 11.04
[16:52] <b_z_> ?
[16:53] <seanmc98> tbearden, tyr
[16:53] <seanmc98> typo
[16:53] <escott> matheus__, so you must be running metacity, but you are getting white boxes for gnome-terminal and nothing for firefox
[16:54] <matheus__> escott, yes! when i can log, the wallpaper appears, the toolbars too, but i'm can't do nothing...
[16:54] <Seven_Six_Two> b_z_, I would recommend starting with the most recent LTS (10.04) if you're new
[16:55] <[HzF]Rocker> Anyone able to help me? - i'm stuck :@
[16:55] <irrumator_> I'm having this issue whenever I try to sudo apt-get update now for some reason: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[16:55] <irrumator_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[16:55] <tbearden> seanmc98: glad that helped.  you can also use vi or gedit or kate or which other editor you'd like to use.  if you like vi, then just do 'vi /home/<user>/Documents/document.txt'
[16:55] <irrumator_> I made sure that ubuntu software center and synaptic were closed too
[16:56] <manoelaugusto> oi bom dia
[16:56] <manoelaugusto> gastaria quem alguem me ajudasse
[16:56] <irrumator_> quit gnome-shell and when i do sudo apt-get update again, it doesn't prompt for password so maybe that's part of the problem?
[16:56] <oCean> !br | manoelaugusto
[16:56] <escott> matheus__, i wonder if you have a broken Xdamage extension or something like that. could you sudo apt-get install pastebinit and then "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit" you can send us the link here and we can review the Xorg log
[16:57] <engammalsko> test
[16:57] <[HzF]Rocker> Anyone able to help me? - i'm stuck :@
[16:57] <manoelaugusto> sou novo
[16:57] <smith_> I have done mistake deleting my Desktop folder using rm -rf /home/smith/Desktop so now I want to recover that folder . please anyone can help me to recover tha because I had most important folders in my Desktop
[16:58] <jrib> !recover | smith_
[16:58] <matheus__> escott, ok
[16:58] <jrib> smith_: if you don't have backups, take this as the moment you start keeping them
[16:59] <beehind> buzz
[17:00] <smith_> I searched some method and recover but all the files recoverd separately as their file type. so can I recover whole folder this way
[17:01] <[HzF]Rocker> Anyone able to help me? - I still can't connect to any wireless networks
[17:03] <b_z_> Seven_Six_Two: so im install 10.10 lts?or 11.04
[17:03] <Seven_Six_Two> b_z_, 10.04 is the LTS version
[17:04] <anderson> hi
[17:04] <anderson> i need a help pleae
[17:04] <anderson> can some one help me ?
[17:04] <compdoc> maybe
[17:04] <Seven_Six_Two> !help anderson
[17:04] <anderson> i have ubuntu vps
[17:04] <Seven_Six_Two> !ask
[17:04] <anderson> i want how to install a web browser on it without need to install gui
[17:05] <matheus__> escott, i can't do run the command sudo apt-get...
[17:05] <matheus__> nothing hapennings...
[17:05] <llutz> !lamp| anderson
[17:05] <llutz> anderson: ah browser... forget it, i misread you
[17:05] <Pici> anderson: w3m is a cli browser that is already installed on Ubuntu Server.
[17:05] <xangua> there are terminal web browsers, but i don't remember ther inames
[17:05] <Seven_Six_Two> llutz, that's funny. I misread it in the same way  :)
[17:06] <anderson> i didnt understand , i need a browser like mozilla chromium etc . but without need to install gui
[17:06] <dr_willis> lynx, links, w3m  xangua  :)
[17:06] <matheus__> escott, i typed sudo apt-get install pastbinit... the pointer down a line and nothing hapennings...
[17:06] <xangua> :)
[17:06] <Pici> anderson: How exactly do you plan to use those if you don't have a gui?
[17:06] <ufrgs> Hello folks!
[17:06] <Seven_Six_Two> anderson, do you access the vps with ssh?
[17:06] <ufrgs> I have a doubt here.
[17:06] <anderson> yes i can acces to it
[17:06] <b_z_> Seven_Six_Two: i fear for the graphics driver
[17:06] <anderson> on putty
[17:06] <dr_willis> anderson,  lynx, links, w3m,
[17:06] <abstrakt> anderson, um... you can't do that, i don't think
[17:06] <AliaRNL> Hi everyone, I just finished installing Ubuntu 11.04 but I'm now stuck on a black screen with a cursor. Any suggestion ?
[17:07] <ufrgs> Where do I find better fonts instead of Monospaced one?
[17:07] <abstrakt> anderson, i mean, yes and no, I don't think any of those console based browsers will render graphics
[17:07] <dr_willis>  one of those had a graphical mode in the framebuffer ...  but been ages sicne i last used it anders_office
[17:07] <b_z_> Seven_Six_Two: and i close laptop dor restart ubuntu
[17:07] <ufrgs> Could someone help me please?
[17:07] <abstrakt> w3m supposedly can
[17:07] <abstrakt> it's still not quite what you think it is
[17:07] <xangua> ufrgs: software centre¿
[17:07] <dr_willis> ufrgs,  better then what?  what are you using the font for...
[17:07] <Seven_Six_Two> anderson, ok, not sure about putty. with ssh command, you can use the -X switch to forward a window from one server to another. the server has to have X installed
[17:07] <anderson> so i cant install a browseer without install gui ? but i freind told me that i can but he didnt remember how
[17:07] <abstrakt> and it'll never render anywhere close to the "real" thing
[17:07] <crusade_suckatal> what software c++ compiler for ubuntu 11.04
[17:07] <abstrakt> anderson, sudo apt-get install lynx
[17:08] <llutz> anderson: you'll need at least xorg-common + a xserver for windows running
[17:08] <abstrakt> anderson, lynx http://www.google.com/
[17:08] <dr_willis> anderson,  lynx, links, w3m,    <--- One of these had a 'framebuffer enabled gui' but its very moinimal.
[17:08] <Pici> dr_willis: You can't use framebuffer via putty.
[17:08] <abstrakt> dr_willis, w3m is the one with framebuffer
[17:08] <ufrgs> dr_willis, I use it as main system font and as text editor font as well.
[17:08] <crusade_suckatal> and what is X.org and its function?
[17:08] <anderson> can some one please go on private chat i can say what you write
[17:08] <ufrgs> xangua, and look for what?
[17:08] <dr_willis> Pici,  makes me wonder why he needs a browser on the server at all.. if he has a windows machine with putty...
[17:08] <abstrakt> lol
[17:08] <Seven_Six_Two> anderson, xserver has to be available to forward the window, or you have to use a text browser like abstrakt and dr_willis mentioned
[17:09] <xangua> ufrgs: fonts¿
[17:09] <dr_willis> ufrgs,  i tend to use the droid sans font or ubuntu font for most all of my needs these days
[17:09] <ufrgs> Another question I have is concerned a Text editor, could someone recommend me a nice one?
[17:09] <abstrakt> crusade_suckatal, "x windows" as it is commonly called is the program that draws real graphics on your computer so you can have a "gui"... i.e. so you can have a mouse and a "desktop" and "windows" and "scroll bars" and all that good stuff
[17:09] <Seven_Six_Two> crusade_suckatal, gcc is the compiler
[17:09] <ufrgs> dr_willis, is it a default font or... ?
[17:09] <anderson> i need browser like mozilla or chromium , but my vps has only 128 mb so if i cant install gui
[17:09] <Seven_Six_Two> ufrgs, vim
[17:09] <dr_willis> ufrgs,  depends on your needs.. I tend to use geany as a  good editor.. but it pays to learn vi/vim
[17:10] <abstrakt> crusade_suckatal, it used to be called X11 now it's called X.org
[17:10] <irrumator_> I'm having this issue whenever I try to sudo apt-get update now for some reason: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:10] <irrumator_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:10] <edbian> irrumator_: yes
[17:10] <irrumator_> I made sure that ubuntu software center and synaptic were closed too
[17:10] <abstrakt> anderson, what exactly do you need the browser for?
[17:10] <irrumator_> quit gnome-shell and when i do sudo apt-get update again, it doesn't prompt for password so maybe that's part of the problem?
[17:10] <dr_willis> ufrgs,  theres many extra fonts in the repos.
[17:10] <anderson> i need to enter to a website require flashplayer
[17:10] <ufrgs> dr_willis, I am not on 60's anymore... come on guys. I need a Texteditor with a graphic interface...
[17:11] <anderson> pinger.com
[17:11] <phillyj> hey guys, i want to retry installing ubuntu 10.04.3
[17:11] <xangua> anderson: and you want to do that with a browser and without gui....
[17:11] <irrumator_> edbian: so..you familiar with this problem and how to fix it?
[17:11] <dr_willis> ufrgs,  and i told you one.. and it IS worth while to learn VI/VIM.
[17:11] <tensorpudding> ufrgs: gedit comes with ubuntu, is it not satisfactory?
[17:11] <anderson> yes
[17:11] <tsimpson> crusade_suckatal: install the "build-essential" to get gcc and g++
[17:11] <ufrgs> dr_willis, and how do I find fonts?
[17:11] <phillyj> should i first use the live cd and make the partition with gparted and then install?
[17:11] <Seven_Six_Two> ufrgs, I understand, but again, it depends on your needs. and not learning how to use vim is something you will eventually regret. are you writing a letter? modifying config files?
[17:12] <tensorpudding> ufrgs: search the software center for fonts?
[17:12] <dr_willis> ufrgs,  open up the softwarecenter/package manager tools and search for 'fonts'
[17:12] <AliaRNL> I just finished installing Ubuntu 11.04 but I'm now stuck on a black screen with a cursor. Any suggestion ?
[17:12] <abstrakt> anderson, and why do you need to enter that site FROM your VPS?
[17:12] <Pici> ufrgs: search for ttf in the repos, there are a number of them there.
[17:12] <dr_willis> !apt | ufrgs
[17:12] <edbian> irrumator_: yep
[17:12] <edbian> irrumator_: ps -e   lists all processes.  Do you see any dpkg, apt, aptitude, or synaptic processes running in that list?
[17:12] <dr_willis> ufrgs,  you can also download/install them to your personal .fonts dir from the web if you find any you like.
[17:13] <anderson> because of the ip + ... i need browse the website and auther website like paypal etc .. because i cant open paypal account on my country so i need enter from vps
[17:13] <dr_willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/7-of-best-ubuntu-terminal-fixed-width.html
[17:13] <irrumator_> edbian: yeah, i grep'd for apt, aptitude, and synaptic. the only one that returned something was apt for:  5973 ?        00:00:00 update-apt-xapi
[17:13] <coraxx> dr_willis: I have a question for you...if you know VirtualBox :-) ?
[17:13] <llutz> anderson: easier to setup a proxy or a vpn on your vps
[17:13] <edbian> irrumator_: Kill it
[17:14] <edbian> irrumator_: I'm not really sure what it is.  Probably something to do with the gui update-manager
[17:14] <dr_willis> coraxx,  i know ive read its manual a few times... :)
[17:14] <Tharlinn_> hello it's me again
[17:14] <edbian> Tharlinn_: hi :)
[17:14] <dr_willis> coraxx,  ask and see. :) ive not used it much in ages.
[17:14] <Tharlinn_> i am trying to get 7.1 audio to work on my logitech g35 headset
[17:14] <anderson> i dont need vps or proxy because problem of coockies etc .. i need browse from the vps thats why i need browser
[17:14] <Tharlinn_> so far no questions though ;p
[17:14] <phillyj> the main problem i have with partitioning is that Windows already set up 3 partitions and the rest is part of the C:/ drive
[17:15] <coraxx> dr_willis: ok ... I can't seem to get the VRDP til work ...so I can't remote control the consoles of each started vm's on a server ...what am I doing wrong ?
[17:15] <edbian> phillyj: create an extended partition to hold all your ubuntu partitions.
[17:15] <irrumator_> edbian: great success :) thank you so much mon kapitan!
[17:15] <dr_willis> coraxx,  never used that feature. sorry.
[17:15] <edbian> irrumator_: sure
[17:15] <gimpy1380> I have a wierd issue with OpenOffice <IP_ADDRESS> on Ubuntu 10.10 x64.  When I have document open on anything but workspace 1 and scoll up or down in the document, it brings me to workspace 1.  No matter what I do, scrolling in an OpenOffice document switches me to workspace 1, any ideas?
[17:16] <phillyj> edbian: can i do that with gparted?
[17:16] <anderson> so ??
[17:16] <crusade_newbies> does linux need antivirus?. because i read some article saying that virus is nothing to linux.sorry for my bad english.
[17:16] <edbian> phillyj: yes, but you cannot edit a partition that is mounted so you may need to use a liveCD
[17:16] <dr_willis> crusade_newbies,  not really. Unless you want to scan your windows files for windows viruses.
[17:16] <coraxx> dr_willis: arrgh...ok :-) ...its the last bump on the road for me ...in order to have a completly free virtual-system ...running on Ubuntu server :-)
[17:16] <edbian> phillyj: Of course if you're partitioning now you probably dont' have Ubuntu installed :P
[17:17] <jita> What does cp -a do ? I read the man page but could'nt figure out, if anybody could show me by example ?
[17:17] <edbian> crusade_newbies: viruses are not an issue in linux
[17:17] <hwilde> jita, it copies all files (even hidden ones)
[17:17] <phillyj> edbian: can i boot up from the CD and run gparted w/o installing ubuntu?
[17:17] <coraxx> N E body outthere who ever got VRDP to work on VirtualBox ...and explain what the did to get it to work (besides from checking on the feature) ?
[17:17] <jita> hwilde: and the R switch doesnt copy everything ?
[17:17] <anderson> can some one help me ? the vps that i have has only 128 mb ram and i cant install gui on it but i need browser
[17:18] <edbian> jita: And it appears to keep permission info
[17:18] <abstrakt> crusade_newbies, security is an issue, virii are not so much of an issue... regular users on linux do not have administrative privileges, so regular users cannot install programs in the system, so it's not very easy for a person to get a "virus" on a linux computer
[17:18] <edbian> phillyj: yes
[17:18] <hwilde> jita, R is for recursive, meaning it will include subdirectories
[17:18] <rumpe1> phillyj, yes (the option is called "trying" i guess)
[17:18] <abstrakt> crusade_newbies, with that said, security is still a problem and people who are bad can certainly still break in to your linux computer with direct attacks
[17:18] <edbian> abstrakt: crusade_newbies Plus we use repos which rarely if ever contain any malicious code at all.
[17:18] <jita> hwilde: and what does -d do ?
[17:19] <abstrakt> edbian, heheh, yeah i've heavily thought about that
[17:19] <hwilde> jita, read the man page
[17:19] <jita> nodereference, preserve=links
[17:19] <anderson> no one can help me ?
[17:19] <abstrakt> crusade_newbies, i never install third party packages on a production server, if I ever need something non-vanilla i just compile it myself
[17:19] <dr_willis> anderson,  and how are you going to run this browser on the vps anyway and see its output? I think theres some missing details here.
[17:19] <edbian> abstrakt: crusade_newbies If you do things right.  Linux is extremely secure in every way.
[17:19] <dr_willis> anderson,  what you are trying to do soulds very weird to me..
[17:19] <abstrakt> crusade_newbies, but if you're just a "regular user" then you're probably fine with no worries about virii
[17:19] <coraxx> anderson: maybe I can ...
[17:19] <xangua> anderson: you sure can install a minimal gui
[17:19] <abstrakt> crusade_newbies, like i said, security is still important
[17:19] <xangua> and everyone happy then :D
[17:19] <crusade_newbies> if i was root, will be not effected too?
[17:20] <anderson> but where i find minimal gui for 128 mb
[17:20] <AliaRNL> Hi everyone, I just finished installing Ubuntu 11.04 but I'm now stuck on a black screen with a cursor. Any suggestion ?
[17:20] <edbian> crusade_newbies: If you are root all the time that is a big security risk
[17:20] <anderson> ?
[17:20] <abstrakt> anderson, i asked you a question earlier that you haven't yet answered
[17:20] <abstrakt> anderson, but for minimal gui, probably you want openbox
[17:20] <anderson> what is the question ?
[17:20] <hwilde> anderson,  dsl  (damn small linux)
[17:20] <abstrakt> anderson, why exactly, do you need to look at this website FROM the VPS?
[17:20] <Seven_Six_Two> crusade_newbies, I'd like to amend "for now" to all of the advice about antivirus.
[17:20] <abstrakt> anderson, ^ that is the question
[17:21] <abstrakt> anderson, VPS is a server, i have no idea what relevance this has to viewing a flash page
[17:21] <coraxx> anderson: I think at least 256mb is required for xubuntu ...so I think you will have to go outside of Ubuntu ...I have installed a Fedora once with GUI on a 128mb system ....so your question will probably belong to another chatroom.
[17:21] <crusade_newbies> ok...now i understand.thanx
[17:21] <abstrakt> anderson, the server will never have a need to view flash, why can't you just view it from your own computer?
[17:21] <anderson> because i live on country dont have paypal and i create the paypal on usa dedicated server but i dont have now i have only the vps but the vps has only 128 mb and i cant install gui on this ram
[17:22] <dr_willis> anderson,  you can port forward from your local pc to the VPS...
[17:22] <anderson> how i do that ?
[17:22] <abstrakt> anderson, yeah run an SSH tunnel or a VPN
[17:22] <dr_willis> !ssh | anderson
[17:22] <anderson> yes yes i already get connected to my vps via putty
[17:22] <abstrakt> anderson, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/PortForwarding
[17:22] <dr_willis> anderson,  time to read up on ssh and port forwarding.
[17:23] <abstrakt> anderson, no you need ssh tunneling
[17:23] <abstrakt> anderson, not "just" ssh
[17:23] <dr_willis> yea tunnles.. :)
[17:23] <coraxx> anderson: ssh -X -C<EMAIL_ADDRESS><software name> ...starts a software on a remote machine, but shows it locally
[17:23] <anderson> but how do i install browser on very minimal gui ?
[17:23] <dr_willis> anderson,  you dont need to.
[17:23] <abstrakt> coraxx, isn't that via XDMCP?
[17:23] <Pici> coraxx: Thats not going to help if he doesn't have an X server running.
[17:23] <anderson> what i need ?
[17:23] <debd> somebody pls help me
[17:23] <dr_willis> anderson,  how would you rn the browser if you had one installed?
[17:23] <debd> ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1821677
[17:23] <abstrakt> anderson, you need to read i gave you the link
[17:23] <Pici> debd: You haven't asked a question yet.
[17:23] <abstrakt> anderson, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/PortForwarding
[17:24] <coraxx> Pici: the xserver is running locally ...not remotely
[17:24] <Pici> debd: Please ask *here*
[17:24] <debd> Pici: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1821677
[17:24] <dr_willis> anderson,  browser on local box ---------Tunnle ------->  vps ------------> web sites.
[17:24] <Pici> coraxx: I know that. anderson is running Windows.
[17:24] <anderson> but with that my paypal going to get limited because of coockies
[17:24] <Seven_Six_Two> anderson, you could also set up a proxy (squid) but you would have to be very careful that other's can't connect
[17:24] <abstrakt> anderson, you have two basic options, an SSH tunnel or a VPS
[17:24] <abstrakt> yes or a proxy
[17:24] <Ramses> SSH tunnel is interesting
[17:24] <abstrakt> but that's not necessarily secure and may cost money
[17:25] <dr_willis> I think this is getting beyond ubuntu support also.. :)
[17:25] <Ramses> SSH is not secure?
[17:25] <abstrakt> anderson, google for "ssh tunnel" and also google for "vps" it's very simple, you need to go do your research now
[17:25] <anderson> yes that is not secure