[05:28] <BluesKaj> specialbuddy, type 'alsamixer' in the terminal ..see if you can control the vol from there
[05:28] <jussi01> Hobbsee: brilliant, thanks
[05:28] <specialbuddy> pcm adjusts the sound but why can't I use the pc speaker one?
[05:29] <BluesKaj> pc speaker isn't your soundcard , specialbuddy
[05:29] <iarwain_> Hobbsee: i installed python, and fretsonfire complains about a 'not matching glx visual'
[05:29] <Ace2016> specialbuddy: what pc speaker one, forget that, right click on the kmix icon > select master channel, then pick pcm, then it'll work
[05:30] <specialbuddy> thank you Ace2016 and BluesKaj
[05:30] <soulrider__> !easysource
[05:30] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:32] <Raven301> I'm trying to put 7.04 onto a western digital 15g hard drive put when I do the install it says it doesn't know what driver to use for the hard drive I went thru the whole list and nothing worked. When I have the beta version on it was ok. Any Ideas?
[05:32] <snap> is there any way to make the file browser show the path of a selected file?
[05:32] <Raven301> s/put/but
[05:32] <peter_> hello! where does that upgrade tool save packages? i was trying to upgrade, but after downloading the packages (only 1G..) it gave some errors, hope it didn't delete them
[05:33] <Ace2016> snap: what do you mean selected file path? its in the address bar isn't it?
[05:33] <snap> i dont see address bar thats what i want
[05:33] <Ace2016> snap: you want to hide the address bar in konqueror?
[05:33] <Tired_> Ok.  I think I got Beryl working.  What keys do I press to blow my mind?
[05:33] <red22> ace2016: i'm gonna reboot into kde to try out your advice. be back in a bit. ty.
[05:34] <Ace2016> red22: bye
[05:34] <snap> no i want to show the path to selected files in the file browser
[05:34] <snap> so i can copy paste them into terminal
[05:34] <aro> Tired_: If it's really working, click on the desktop with both left and right mouse buttons at the same time
[05:34] <aro> Tired_: Then move around
[05:34] <red22> ace2016: actually one more thing related to keyboard.. how do i enable my windows/menu key pls?
[05:34] <Ace2016> snap: forget that, just browse to the place and press F4 or F8
[05:34] <Tired_> wow!
[05:35] <Tired_> it's definitely working
[05:35] <aro> Also alt+tab between several windows
[05:35] <Tired_> how to make the cube?
[05:35] <peter_> settings/toolbar/location or what?
[05:35] <aro> Tired_: Right+left click on the desktop didn't activate the cube?
[05:35] <snap> nothing happened
[05:36] <Tired_> the instructions for feisty on wiki.beryl-project.org seem pretty idiot-proof, got it on the first try from there
[05:36] <Ace2016> red22: xmodmap -e 'keycode 116 = Super_L' and xmodmap -e 'keycode 115 = Super_L' then the button is called super, so if your in the beryl menus use stuff like <Super>button1 for move and stuff>
[05:36] <Tired_> it made a cube with no faces
[05:36] <peter_> can someone help me? when i'll run the update again will it delete the packages, or are they already lost?
[05:36] <Ace2016> red22: put them in the file you make in autostart
[05:37] <snap> grrr frustrating
[05:37] <goffi> hi
[05:37] <BluesKaj> peter_, running update doesn't delete pkges
[05:37] <snap> at one point i did have a file manager that had the path ....i have no idea where that went now
[05:37] <Ace2016> snap: whats frustrating?
[05:38] <Ace2016> snap: upload a screenshot to somewhere like imageshack and use that to explain what you mean
[05:38] <peter_> but it already downloaded them, but ended with some error after that
[05:38] <snap> i need to install MT4 and I want to typw ~wine path/filename.exe
[05:38] <snap> but i cant get terminal to the right directory
[05:39] <snap> so i thought ill browes in the file manager and copy the path text and paste it into terminal
[05:39] <red22> ace2016: isn't there a nice little gui app for handling this keyboard stuff/remapping?  i'm not gonna remember commands in a few days.  i'm gonna have to start keeping a journal.. :P
[05:40] <peter_> upgrading ubuntu to version 6.10? wtf. i've probably something wrong
[05:41] <Tired_> how does one add a shortcut to their desktop for a program, like you would in Windows?
[05:41] <red22> snap: if you browse with konqueror you have the path in the address bar. if it's hidden you can activate it in prefs too.
[05:41] <peter_> create new>link to application ?
[05:42] <Tired_> then you have to know where it is...i'm used to just dragging things off the start menu to the desktop
[05:42] <snap> any tips on getting printscreen to work so i can upload a screen cap?
[05:42] <adaptr> it works fine here
[05:43] <adaptr> should be fully automatic
[05:43] <Ace2016> Tired_: so you want a link to an a program on your desktop?
[05:43] <Tired_> yep
[05:43] <peter_> tired_> r click and add item to desktop
[05:43] <Tired_> more than one
[05:43] <Tired_> oh
[05:43] <mistic> does anyone here know how to choose which sound card I want to use ? I want kubuntu to use my usb-headset and not the other soundcard... how to say that to him ? XD
[05:44] <Ace2016> Tired_: you do know you can just drag it, press alt+f1, find the thing, click, hold down, and it to the desktop, release and then select copy
[05:44] <Tired_> i'm always expecting things to be more difficult in linux...they really aren't.
[05:44] <Tired_> i do now  ;)
[05:44] <bobleny> I have VNC installed on a couple of my computers, but I don't know what the IP Address' are for them. I can check that computer, but it changes every time it reboots. Is there a way to check the IPs that are connected to my local network? All of the computers are on the same router.
[05:44] <mistic> Tired_: how to do that then ? plz :D:D:D
[05:44] <red22> tired_: right click the menu item and select add to desktop
[05:45] <Tired_> oh, sorry, mistic, i was speaking to someone else
[05:45] <mistic> ho u weren't spoken to me ^
[05:45] <mistic> :'(
[05:45] <mistic> no problem...
[05:45] <peter_> bobleny> use DNS
[05:45] <Ace2016> mistic: go into kcontrol
[05:46] <bobleny> Domain Name Server?
[05:46] <Ace2016> mistic: then into sound and multimedia, then into sound system, then pick what you want
[05:46] <Ace2016> mistic: in the hardware tab
[05:46] <mistic> 1 min
[05:47] <peter_> if i understand it, you have DHCP and want always know, how to connect to some computer?
[05:47] <dettoaltrimenti> question: if I plug in a camera through usb, what will it be in /dev probably? is there any way to tell the most recently connected device on my computer?
[05:48] <dettoaltrimenti> another question: I did something in Konsole where now I can't see what I type- how do I change it back?
[05:48] <Ace2016> dettoaltrimenti: it should pop up a window asking to mount or something, did it come up?
[05:48] <red22> ace2016: how can i get all my mouse buttons working (7 btns logitech mx510). i followed some guides modifiying my xorg.conf, but no luck.
[05:48] <mistic> Ace2016: I'm in, but in the hardware tab I can choose some things like Alsa, OSS etc... but there is no list about my sound cards here
[05:48] <dettoaltrimenti> nope ace2016
[05:49] <bobleny> peter_: I need to know how to connect to the computers. What I don't know, is how to get the information to connect to the computers.
[05:49] <dettoaltrimenti> another question: image files are automatically opened by firefox. How do I change it so they automatically open in eog?
[05:49] <jhutchins> dettoaltrimenti: You may need to change the scheema, you may just need to close the console and open a new one.  You can try entering the command 'reset'.
[05:50] <dettoaltrimenti> jhutchins- thanks, reset worked
[05:50] <Ace2016> mistic: the only other thing i remember is to try kmix, i think that has a dropdown with the 2 cards in it
[05:50] <snap> http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/9853/screenshotbw4.png
[05:50] <Traveler2> i'm trying to use wubi to install kubuntu, and followed the instructions to do it, buy installing the alternative 7.04 in the same folder
[05:50] <mistic> kmix... ok
[05:50] <Traveler2> but it still insists on downloading ordinary ubuntu :/
[05:50] <jhutchins> !ssh | bobleny
[05:50] <ubotu> bobleny: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[05:50] <mistic> Ace2016: my cards are listed in Kmix, but how to choose one by default ? I cannot say that... :S
[05:50] <Traveler2> guide for wubi says it should take that one instead, but it refuses
[05:51] <jhutchins> !info wubi
[05:51] <ubotu> Package wubi does not exist in feisty
[05:51] <jhutchins> !find wubi
[05:51] <Traveler2> it is the windows installer
[05:51] <ubotu> Package/file wubi does not exist in feisty
[05:51] <Traveler2> so i don't need to repartition
[05:52] <peter_> ubotu: he's connecting with VNC
[05:52] <jhutchins> Traveler2: You're going to try to install it to a windows partition?
[05:52] <peter_> lol
[05:52] <Traveler2> that's what wubi's meant to do
[05:52] <peter_> he's bott :\
[05:52] <jhutchins> Traveler2: Is it ntfs or vfat?
[05:53] <Ace2016> red22: did you ceck the forums, i just found this, it might help
[05:53] <Traveler2> ntfs, it just refuses to use the kubuntu iso i just downloaded
[05:53] <dettoaltrimenti> is there an irc channel for using gimp?
[05:53] <Traveler2> instead it goes and download ubuntu :/
[05:53] <bobleny> peter_: so, no ideas?
[05:53] <peter_> if you have only small amount of computers, set fixed ips for them. but i think with dynamically assigned IPs is the DNS way to go. you then always connect to computer1 etc.
[05:54] <mistic> :'(
[05:54] <red22> snap: just hit the button with the pad and pencil between the "back" and "places" buttons on top left
[05:54] <red22> snap: then you get the address bar you want
[05:54] <red22> got it?
[05:54] <bobleny> peter_: I don't know anything about that though... As far as I know, they need to have a server on them to have there own DNS....
[05:55] <Ace2016> mistic: as far as i know the one you pick in the list is the one thats used, i only saw it for about a day
[05:55] <Tired_> wow.  this beryl stuff is worth the price of admission by itself
[05:55] <red22> ace2016: you didn't paste link.. " just found this, it might help..." ?
[05:55] <mistic> Ace2016: And I must restart the computer after having picked it in the list ?
[05:55] <BluesKaj> peter_, maybe some pkges are broken
[05:56] <Ace2016> red22: woops
[05:56] <snap> red thanks.....i used concorer its file exactly what i was looking for
[05:56] <Ace2016> red22: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59729&highlight=logitech+mouse+7+buttons
[05:56] <snap> but i still cant get wine to install the file
[05:57] <chi0> does any one know a good ati guide for Feisty
[05:57] <Ace2016> red22: just search for: logitech mouse 7 buttons    or something similar in the forums, then pick one that relates to your mouse or comes closest to it
[05:57] <peter_> BluesKaj: not, it's upgrading now, probably because adept was not closed and locked the db, but I think it should close automatically
[05:57] <BluesKaj> chi0, what do you want to do ?
[05:57] <bobleny> Isn't there a way to  scan the router to find all the computers that are connected to it?
[05:58] <red22> ace2016: ty i'll try doing my searches in the forums and not just yahoo or general search engine. seems more helpful.  thanks again.
[05:58] <BluesKaj> ok peter_ , good :)
[05:58] <Ace2016> chi0: pick one, from here and follow the steps to install the ati driver http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu
[05:58] <peter_> bobleny: depends on settings
[05:58] <chi0> ok ty
[05:58] <bobleny> peter_: Which settings?
[05:59] <peter_> bobleny: firewall etc. scan router from internal network, or from where? you can log into most routers from browser.
[06:00] <murphy78> I've got a problem with my fan not working on my laptop since I installed 7.04.  Can anybody help?
[06:00] <red22> snap: glad to help.
[06:00] <rjt> hey guys im tryuing to recompile my kernel and i am far enough that i have it and everything but it keeps telling me to name the file to patch
[06:00] <rjt> any ideas?
[06:00] <neoncode> Why doesn't Win+C Play/Pause amarok on Feisty?
[06:00] <jhutchins> Traveler2: Write access to ntfs partitions isn't even supported in standard Linux, I think maybe you don't understand what you're doing.
[06:01] <murphy78> I've got a problem with my fan not working on my laptop since I installed 7.04.  Can anybody help?
[06:01] <red22> noencode: does the win key work at all just by itself? feisty seems to not enable it by default.
[06:02] <Ace2016> neoncode: did you try to set it as a shortcut in amarok?
[06:02] <snowice> hello, does anybody know which package I need to install for k3b to be able to burn mp3? BTW, this is on feisty.
[06:02] <rjt> can someone help me compile a kernel?
[06:02] <neoncode> red22: I can still stop or next track/previous track useing the Win key hotkeys. But Win+C doesn't do anything. Also when I right lick on the amarok systray icon it doesn't show a shortcut next to the play option. Yet it shows the other shortcuts.
[06:02] <neoncode> *click
[06:03] <Ace2016> snowice: libk3b2-mp3
[06:04] <jhutchins> neoncode: The shortcut keys for amarok tend to change from release to release, distro to distro.  Look under the amarok configuration to see what's defined now.
[06:04] <Whiz2> what is the command to delete a directory
[06:04] <Whiz2> ?
[06:04] <snowice> ace2016, that one is installed already, but I still get the error message on k3b startup about missing plugin, something about mad library
[06:04] <bobleny> peter_: How can I scan the router?
[06:04] <theringmaster> when I shut down my kubuntu feisty machine the shut down screen is black
[06:04] <neoncode> jhutchins: When I goto Settings -> Configure Shortcuts. It doesn't show the other Win key shortcuts that do work.
[06:04] <rjt> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME COMPILE A KERNEL, I JUST HAVE 1 QUESTION ABOUT IT
[06:05] <jhutchins> Whiz2:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:05] <kalagio> hi
[06:05] <jhutchins> neoncode: Settings/Global Shortcuts.
[06:05] <rjt> it keeps saying FILE TO PATCH which file to i type in there
[06:05] <Ace2016> snowice: tried installing libmad0?
[06:05] <dettoaltrimenti> is there a program in ubuntu to download podcasts?
[06:05] <theringmaster> my machine will shut down normally, but the screen is just not showing
[06:06] <kalagio> do you know any channels to discuss for laptops?
[06:06] <peter_> !info nmap
[06:06] <ubotu> nmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.20-1 (feisty), package size 732 kB, installed size 2644 kB
[06:06] <snowice> libmad0 is installed as well, I have no clue what could be missing as well ...
[06:06] <rjt> does anyone know how to compile a kernel
[06:06] <jhutchins> rjt: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Kernel-HOWTO.html
[06:06] <Ace2016> snowice: can you copy the error message?
[06:06] <neoncode> jhutchins: ...Damn I'm blind... thanks!
[06:06] <BluesKaj> !compile | rjt
[06:06] <ubotu> rjt: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:07] <rjt> jhutchins, it keeps telling me to to patch what file and i dont know what pile to put in there
[06:07] <jhutchins> neoncode: Don't feel to bad, that got me too.
[06:07] <bobleny> ...
[06:07] <peter_> has anyone tryed the new kernel scheduler?
[06:07] <neoncode> jhutchins: Right, thanks though!
[06:07] <LeeJunFan> peter_: you mean with the low-latency kernel?
[06:07] <jhutchins> rjt: Kernel Compiling is beyond the scope of this channel, you should find some guides like the one above.  It's something that needs to be done correctly, step-by-step.    K3b could not load or find the Mp3 decoder plugin. This means that you will not be able to create Audio CDs from Mp3 files. Many Linux distributions do not include Mp3 support for legal reasons.  Solution: To enable Mp3 support, please install the MAD Mp3 decoding library as well as the K3b MAD Mp3 decoder plugin (the latter may already be installed but not functional due to the missing libmad). Some
[06:08] <snowice> distributions allow installation of Mp3 support via an online update tool (i.e. SuSE's YOU).
[06:08] <kalagio> where can i ask about a laptop to buy?
[06:08] <Hobbsee> kalagio: #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[06:08] <Hobbsee> !mp3 | snowice
[06:08] <kalagio> thanks a lot
[06:08] <ubotu> snowice: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:09] <peter_> LeeJunFan: no, i mean that from ingo, look at kerneltrap.org
[06:09] <jhutchins> rjt: Here's a guide specific to Ubuntu (and maybe more current): http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_ubuntu
[06:09] <Ace2016> kalagio: never ever get a laptop with ati for graphics, you will regreat that forever, stick with nvidia, or intel, but nvidia is the best
[06:10] <kalagio> Ace2016 i am between two models
[06:11] <theringmaster> why doesn't my shut-down screen show?
[06:12] <rjt> i am just trying to get my wireless work and i read online that if you compile a new kernel it will work
[06:12] <mistic> Ace2016: it didn't work :S I picked up "usb headset" in kmix and restarted computer. I'm stil on the other card
[06:12] <Flosoft_> hey
[06:12] <LeeJunFan> peter_: if you're looking for a smoother X experience I suggest simply installing schedutils and sudo chrt -p 1 `pidof X`  to give X realtime priority, using the low-latency kernel will help, but you need to turn on preempt with sysctl -w kernel.hz_timer=1
[06:12] <Azzco> I'm trying to repartition my system and I need to move files between the partitions. Can I do this from a LiveCD?
[06:12] <Flosoft_> I need some info about DVB-T
[06:13] <Flosoft_> I have an MSI TV@nywhere
[06:13] <Flosoft_> what do I need to use it?
[06:13] <adaptr> LeeJunFan: I need the preempt flip for any help in the lowlatency kernel ?
[06:13] <adaptr> LeeJunFan: it's not automatically better than the normal one ? that's.. stupid, sorta
[06:14] <adaptr> because why the * would I even install the lowlatency kernel ?
[06:14] <theringmaster> Can anyone tell me why my shut-down screen won't show?
[06:14] <johndarc> salut
[06:14] <malik_> damn kubuntu is buggy
[06:14] <LeeJunFan> adaptr: yeah, I thought so too, but the reasoning it's not on by default is that it can cause problems on machines which use virtualization.
[06:14] <aro> Malik_: care to be descriptive?
[06:14] <Whiz2> forgot to ask before i left... is there a command to empty the trash from the command line? (I'm out of disk space & can not load my desktop)
[06:14] <malik_> i mean it just is
[06:14] <malik_> i dont use it anymore
[06:14] <malik_> but when i had it
[06:14] <aro> Malik_: I repeat, care to be descriptive?
[06:14] <johndarc> do you know how to open rpm files?
[06:15] <malik_> it was incredibly slow
[06:15] <aro> Malik_: Then why are you in this channel?
[06:15] <adaptr> LeeJunFan: okay.. thanks for the tip
[06:15] <malik_> and when i tried to turn the computer off
[06:15] <malik_> it wouldnt turn off
[06:15] <red22> neoncode: sorry,  something came up i had to handle.  seems like you got it worked out anyway though. good.
[06:15] <malik_> but the monitor would power off by itself
[06:15] <aro> Malik_: Why are you in this channel if you no longer use Kubuntu?
[06:15] <Flosoft_> !tv
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <Flosoft_> !dvb-t
[06:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvb-t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <theringmaster> hello?
[06:15] <malik_> konversation logged me on
[06:15] <johndarc> hello
[06:16] <LeeJunFan> malik_: did conversation also type that in for you?
[06:16] <theringmaster> Is there a reason why my shut-down screen is not showing?
[06:16] <LeeJunFan> err konversation.
[06:16] <Flosoft_> anyone?
[06:16] <aro> malik_: please leave if you are going to do nothing productive
[06:17] <johndarc> thanks
[06:17] <Whiz2> can someone help me please? I need to empty the trash on my user, but I can't load KDE, because I have no free disk space. is there a way to do it from the command line?
[06:17] <neoncode> red22: Thanks, and thank you for helping!
[06:17] <aro> theringmaster: are you using XGL?
[06:17] <theringmaster> no
[06:17] <theringmaster> This is just a default install
[06:17] <aro> theringmaster: oh, sorry, I had that problem with XGL, so that is the limit of my experience
[06:17] <adaptr> Whiz2: rm -rf ~/.Trash
[06:18] <theringmaster> the computer will shut down normally, but the screen doesn't show
[06:18] <aro> theringmaster: you mean the kubuntu screen with the blue loading bar indicating shut down?
[06:19] <theringmaster> yes
[06:19] <theringmaster> would you call that the usplash?
[06:19] <aro> theringmaster: I'm not sure of its actual name
[06:19] <Hobbsee> theringmaster: yes
[06:19] <red22> yw :)
[06:19] <Hobbsee> ksplash is the one after you login
[06:20] <theringmaster> so my usplash isn't showing
[06:20] <red22> snap: you still around?
[06:20] <Whiz2> adaptr ty
[06:20] <rjt> WTF I JUST WANT MY WIRELESS BACK
[06:21] <snap> it wont let me send a private message red
[06:21] <Flosoft_> how do I use my TV Card?
[06:21] <Flosoft_> it is a DVB-T
[06:21] <Flosoft_> MSI TV@nywhere Master
[06:22] <red22> snap: just double click my name.. and type in the new channel.. should work ?
[06:22] <red22> if not just type here i suppose pls
[06:22] <snap> no they have private messages block for unregistered people
[06:23] <snap> http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=243411#post243411
[06:23] <neoncode> Can anyone help me with KVM, when I try to run it it core dumps and exits.
[06:23] <Whiz2> one more question before i leave... I'm going to get myself a larger hard drive for my linux system. does anyone know of a program that will allow me to copy my linux partition to a different drive in a way that will allow me to swap the drives, and boot from the newly copied partition?
[06:23] <snap> the info i used in that link
[06:23] <red22> snap: ah ok i forgot about that
[06:23] <red22> ok i'll check that out ty.
[06:23] <kim_> Whiz2: i use gparted its in the package manager
[06:23] <marcreichelt> hi!
[06:23] <rjt> intell wireless, anyone got it workin?
[06:23] <red22> what you using it for? trading futures?
[06:23] <snap> that link will have the info....
[06:23] <snap> let me know
[06:24] <snap> I trade Forex currency
[06:24] <marcreichelt> with Kubuntu 7.04, KNetworkManager is the default program to configure the network
[06:24] <marcreichelt> I'm using a laptop, and i have eth0 (LAN) and eth1 (WLAN)
[06:24] <red22> how long have you been doing that?  works well / no flaws or complaints about forex?
[06:24] <Whiz2> kim_: so if i use gparted to copy my system partition to a new drive, and make it active (and resize it to the full drive capacity) i should be able to swap them, and boot from the newly copied partition keeping everything currently installed without any issues?
[06:24] <marcreichelt> if I configure eth0 and deactivate eth1, after a reboot, eth1 is active again
[06:24] <rjt> how to configure mine to work?
[06:25] <rjt> i am on wired now and i just want my wireless back so i can play xbox live
[06:25] <theringmaster> does anyone have any idea on how to fix my usplash?
[06:25] <marcreichelt> is this a bug, or a feature? :-/
[06:25] <snap> been trading for 2 years now
[06:25] <snap> forex is very tough
[06:26] <red22> snap: tough?
[06:26] <snap> took me a solid year of 14-18 days and a bunch of losses to finally get good
[06:26] <snowice> k3b says normalize-audio not installed, but it's in /usr/bin and the latter is in the search pad, how can that be?
[06:26] <Flosoft_> !channels
[06:26] <ubotu> A list of Freenode channels is available via http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - Ubuntu related channels can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[06:27] <red22> ah.
[06:27] <snap> err that should read 14-18 hour
[06:28] <red22> snap: i would really like to talk some more about this for a bit.  do you mind going to another channel or registering so we can pm and not be off-topic here?
[06:28] <red22> if you don't mind.
[06:28] <snap> um sure
[06:28] <Flosoft_> can anyone tell me how I use my TV card?
[06:29] <red22> great ty
[06:29] <geggam> Flosoft_, is it software or hardware encoder ?
[06:29] <snap> come on over to irc.evolu.net #general-area-napstex if you can
[06:29] <Flosoft_> hardware encoder
[06:29] <Flosoft_> geggam: atleast I suppose so
[06:29] <geggam> do u have the module ittv modprobed ?
[06:29] <Flosoft_> geggam: no :S
[06:29] <geggam> modprobe ittv
[06:30] <geggam> i think xawtv will connect
[06:30] <geggam> !xawtv
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xawtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:30] <red22> snap: just join  the channel on this server, can you?
[06:30] <Flosoft_> florian@Zeus:~/ut2004$ modprobe ittv
[06:30] <Flosoft_> FATAL: Module ittv not found.
[06:30] <Flosoft_> florian@Zeus:~/ut2004$
[06:31] <Flosoft_> geggam: It is a MSI TV@nywhere Master
[06:31] <Flosoft_> geggam:  http://www.msicomputer.com/product/netpc/netpc_detail.asp?model=TV@nywhere_Master
[06:32] <Godfather3> scsh.irc.encrypted vR/fpZo=
[06:33] <Godfather3> Test
[06:33] <Flosoft> geggam: I don't know what programms can play TV (wanted Kaffeine to play) and I need some modules I suppose?
[06:34] <geggam> Flosoft, this ugly bastard did it with your TV card... mythtv is a bit overkill
[06:34] <geggam> http://www.lemis.com/grog/HOWTO/mythtv-setup.html
[06:34] <Flosoft> yeah ... but I don't need MyTV
[06:34] <geggam> xawtv should be all u need IF the kernel found it...
[06:34] <Flosoft> * MythTV
[06:34] <geggam> i have to get back to database crap
[06:34] <geggam> !medibuntu
[06:34] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[06:35] <geggam> u might need that Flosoft
[06:35] <geggam> later
[06:35] <Godfather3> Test
[06:35] <Flosoft> ok .. cya
[06:36] <Godfather3> Test
[06:37] <livingdaylight> hi, maybe someone can help me with gmail notifier. In configuring i need to add path to browser. Can someone tell me what that might look like to firefox?
[06:37] <dettoaltrimenti> when transferring large files to my external hard drive, it seems to 'pause' itself for 2 or 3 seconds, every 5 or 6 seconds. Can I fix this?
[06:41] <livingdaylight>  maybe someone can help me with gmail notifier. In configuring i need to add path to browser. Can someone tell me what that might look like to firefox?
[06:42] <wirr> livingdaylight: the patch for firefox is /usr/bin/firefox
[06:42] <livingdaylight> wirr, much obliged
[06:44] <malik_> yo
[06:44] <malik_> is there anyway i can make gnome look like kde?
[06:44] <dettoaltrimenti> just use kde
[06:44] <malik_> no
[06:44] <malik_> its too buggy
[06:44] <Arwen> yay, free Feisty CDs! are they nice and pretty?
[06:45] <dettoaltrimenti> I've been using it for about a year, malik_ what's buggy about it?
[06:46] <malik_> fesity kubuntu
[06:46] <dettoaltrimenti> yeah, I'm using it, what's buggy about it
[06:46] <BluesKaj> malik , KDE is fine perhaps your setup is buggy
[06:46] <marcreichelt> how can I configure (K)NetworkManager so that the configuration does not change (even after a reboot)?
[06:46] <malik_> ubuntu feisty is fine
[06:47] <malik_> when i was using kubuntu
[06:47] <malik_> when i tried to turn off the pc it wouldnt
[06:47] <snowice> is medibuntu repo required to handle mp3 files ?
[06:47] <zoli> help pls I cannot save nvidia screen resolution 1152x864 - i have to adjust after every restart (7.04 kubuntu)
[06:47] <aro> malik_: this is a kubuntu support channel, if you are not using kubuntu, do not bother asking questions
[06:47] <kblog> does anybody know this vnc-client? http://www.cspace.in/
[06:47] <Azzco> Is there any place where I can get help specificly for qtparted?
[06:47] <malik_> whoah
[06:48] <malik_> i didnt know this was an asshole channel
[06:48] <BluesKaj> malik_, has a point, i have the same problem , but i don't think it's KDE , it's smething to do with X
[06:48] <Pete_>  Heh.
[06:48] <aro> Regardless, he's been in this channel saying nothing but "WOW KDE IS BUGGY"
[06:49] <aro> "My computer won't turn off KDE sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!"
[06:49] <Azzco> indeed
[06:49] <priest_> hi
[06:49] <dettoaltrimenti> aro, cool off, he only said it once, and it was in response to something I said
[06:49] <dettoaltrimenti> besides, there's not really a big difference between kubuntu and ubuntu
[06:49] <Azzco> Okay so does anyone know if there's some parted IRC channel?
[06:50] <BluesKaj> yeah, he was here last week being negative too ,... his mom prolly lets him on the pc a few times/wk
[06:50] <sc0tch> Is there a way to customize the list of base packages that install (say removing unwanted packages), before installing to HDD?
[06:50] <aro> dettoaltrimenti: check the logs, he's been saying it for the past hour
[06:50] <marcreichelt> Azzco: #parted ?
[06:50] <marcreichelt> ;)
[06:50] <Azzco> marcreichelt: I'm using qtParted and I'm having trouble resizing
[06:51] <marcreichelt> Azzco: Resizing is _always_ a problem
[06:51] <marcreichelt> AFAIK QTParted does not support this feature
[06:51] <marcreichelt> gparted does
[06:51] <marcreichelt> but
[06:51] <snowice> Can anybody help me with something as simple as burning an audio CD from mp3 files? Otherwise I go to sleep, it's 1am here. :-)
[06:52] <BluesKaj> Azzco, have you considered GParted Live CD , it's bootable and does a much better job
[06:52] <marcreichelt> what file system do you have on the partition you want to resize?
[06:52] <Azzco> snowice if you're using kubuntu ther'es allways k3b
[06:52] <Azzco> marcreichelt: ext3
[06:52] <marcreichelt> hmm
[06:52] <marcreichelt> then gparted should work
[06:52] <Azzco> Okay thanks I'll try it out
[06:52] <marcreichelt> but always make a backup first
[06:52] <dettoaltrimenti> alright
[06:52] <Azzco> Okay
[06:52] <marcreichelt> resizing a partition always is critical
[06:52] <snowice> Azzco, I am, and it's with k3b that I have the problem, complaining about a missing plugin, but I have no idea which one it is.
[06:53] <llutz> snowice: use k3b after "sudo aptitude install libk3b2-mp3"
[06:53] <dettoaltrimenti> hey, is there any way in the terminal to merge all the txt files in a folder without typing each file name out?
[06:53] <snowice> llutz, libk3b2-mp3 is installed, but still error
[06:54] <llutz> snowice: sry no idea then
[06:54] <snowice> llutz, do u use feisty and can you burn audio cd from mp3 files?
[06:55] <llutz> snowice: yes
[06:55] <marcreichelt> snowice: have you restartedt K3b after that?
[06:55] <Arwen> snowice, I can... not that I'd want to....
[06:56] <snowice> yes, I did restart k3b after that
[06:56] <marcreichelt> hmm
[06:56] <snowice> do I need to add the medibuntu repo in my sources list?
[06:56] <marcreichelt> not really
[06:56] <llutz> snowice: not for mp3
[06:56] <Arwen> no, libk3b2-mp3 or whatever covers it
[06:56] <Arwen> the medibuntu k3b can rip DVDs... but with very few options..
[06:57] <snowice> I even rebooted and still have the problem
[06:57] <Arwen> you know... audio CDs are overrated... just get a portable media player..
[06:57] <marcreichelt> snowice: no idea if it works from then on, but did you install lame?
[06:58] <marcreichelt> I have 'lame' installed here
[06:58] <snowice> lame is also installed
[06:58] <marcreichelt> but as all others said, libk3b2-mp3 should work
[06:58] <marcreichelt> hmm
[06:58] <marcreichelt> no idea ;)
[06:59] <llutz> lame encodes mp3, nothing to do with ecoding
[06:59] <snowice> I have added medibuntu, it seems to upgrade amarok, k3b and a few others but it's terribly slow
[06:59] <Arwen> llutz, well, lame also acts as a decoder...
[07:00] <marcreichelt> oh
[07:00] <marcreichelt> llutz: lame also decodes MP3 ;)
[07:00] <llutz> yea but not with k3b
[07:00] <marcreichelt> seems so
[07:01] <marcreichelt> maybe you have a solution for my problem?
[07:01] <marcreichelt> with (K)NetworkManager?
[07:01] <BluesKaj> Arwen, audio CD quality is much higher than even the highest bitrate MP3 , it's not the same or overrated at all , that's been my experience.
[07:01] <Arwen> BluesKaj, if you burn an MP3 to Audio CD, then it's 20x larger and the same bad quality...
[07:01] <Arwen> besides, AAC > MP3
[07:02] <marcreichelt> har
[07:02] <marcreichelt> FLAC > AAC > MP3
[07:02] <llutz> if lossy-compression, then ogg/Vorbis
[07:02] <Arwen> FLAC and AAC are for different things...
[07:02] <marcreichelt> :)
[07:02] <Arwen> llutz, meh, I prefer MPEG-4 AAC, it has wider support
[07:02] <snowice> is there an easy way then to convert mp3 files to ogg?
[07:03] <marcreichelt> oggenc?
[07:03] <llutz> there's a script calles mp32ogg
[07:03] <llutz> called
[07:03] <BluesKaj> Arwen, i don't burn mp3 to cd ...it's still mp3
[07:03] <Arwen> marcreichelt, wait, you can encode audio as WMV???
[07:03] <Arwen> BluesKaj, yep, but that's the topic of the discussion
[07:03] <Arwen> 192k MP3 is pretty solid though
[07:04] <marcreichelt> no, Arwen
[07:04] <Arwen> then what's WMV have to do with this?... oh... WMA...
[07:04] <ubuntu_> somone can help me
[07:04] <ubuntu_> ?
[07:04] <marcreichelt> codecs ;)
[07:04] <soulrider> ubuntu_: yeah, ask
[07:04] <BluesKaj> I'm old school , mp3 is for disposeable music lovers
[07:05] <marcreichelt> ubuntu_: don't ask to ask, just ask
[07:05] <soulrider> and ubuntu_ change your nick please
[07:05] <dettoaltrimenti> actually, mp3 is pretty good. I know for a fact that I can't tell the difference between mp3 and wav on any audio equipment that costs less than $2000
[07:05] <soulrider> yeah, i dont have a problem with MP3
[07:05] <dettoaltrimenti> this is just like saying that records sound better than cds.... I can't hear it.
[07:05] <soulrider> kipseron:  :)
[07:05] <snowice> ok, I will try to convert my mp3's to ogg
[07:05] <Arwen> BluesKaj, well, MP3 is kinda outdated.... it's time for it to die anyway
[07:05] <snowice> who owns the mp3 patent anyway?
[07:05] <Arwen> snowice, NO! DON'T DO THAT
[07:06] <dettoaltrimenti> does anyone here use the console audio player moc?
[07:06] <snowice> Arwen, why not?
[07:06] <kipseron> i install kubuntu 7.04 update from my 6.10 kubuntu and i stop the update in 80% and now my kubuntu dont start its give me some errors in start somthing about the event.d someone know how to fix it now i am from live cd
[07:06] <kipseron> ?
[07:06] <Arwen> snowice, that makes your crappy music sound even worse
[07:06] <marcreichelt> snowice: beside, oggenc does not support MP3
[07:06] <Arwen> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mp3#Licensing_and_patent_issues - MP3 patents
[07:06] <dettoaltrimenti> if you don't use mp3, then use FLAC. it's the smallest lossless way to go
[07:06] <BluesKaj> dettoaltrimenti, audio memory is terrible , I'll grant you that , but if one compares the 2 CD Audio will win hands down even on a rck system
[07:06] <marcreichelt> you first have to decode the MP3s
[07:06] <BluesKaj> rack
[07:06] <Arwen> dettoaltrimenti, not actually true, there's several formats more efficient than FLAC
[07:07] <Arwen> BluesKaj, again, 192K+ MP3 is more or less transparent... but then again, I don't have gold-plated wires
[07:07] <kdawg> hate to interupt, but how do I add a terminal shortcut to the right click menu?
[07:07] <BluesKaj> Flac has a lot of utilities that will play it , like VLC
[07:08] <Arwen> BluesKaj, not a lot of support on the portable front though
[07:08] <Arwen> *cpu power*
[07:08] <snowice> it's clear I can't use mp3, so I need something else, but I still have a large collection of mp3's, so they need to be converted in something I can work with
[07:08] <kipseron> ok someone can help me
[07:08] <kipseron> ?
[07:08] <Arwen> snowice, decode them to wav and then burn them
[07:08] <kdawg> whats up kipseron
[07:09] <kipseron> i ask the quistion
[07:09] <snowice> how to decode to wav?
[07:09] <BluesKaj> Arwen, no fancy interconnects are necessary to tell the diff between true wav and mp3
[07:09] <Ace2016> kipseron: are you on the live cd?
[07:09] <kipseron> yes
[07:09] <Arwen> BluesKaj, that was a sarcastic comment... but anyway, I definitely can't tell the difference... maybe you have golden ear syndrome? or your encoder really sucks?
[07:10] <Menda> hi
[07:10] <Ace2016> anyway
[07:10] <Arwen> Ace2016, frozen google :-)
[07:10] <dettoaltrimenti> BluesKaj- http://duxlist.com:81/ give that a try
[07:11] <kipseron> ace
[07:11] <kipseron> you can help me
[07:11] <kdawg> yeah but I thought the earth was getting hotter every year......  al gore needs to talk to google
[07:11] <kipseron> ?
[07:11] <kipseron> \
[07:11] <BluesKaj> Arwen, well I'm sorry you think it's sarcastic ...been into audio and playing music for over 50 yrs , maybe it's just my aural experience showing thru .
[07:11] <kipseron> \
[07:11] <kipseron> plz somone
 i install kubuntu 7.04 update from my 6.10 kubuntu and i stop the update in 80% and now my kubuntu dont start its give me some errors in start somthing about the event.d someone know how to fix it now i am from live cd
[07:11] <Arwen> BluesKaj, or it's because you *expect* to hear a difference so your brain *perceives* one
[07:11] <Arwen> try a blind test
[07:11] <marcreichelt> hehe
[07:11] <marcreichelt> lame --decode test.mp3 - | oggenc - -o test.ogg
[07:12] <marcreichelt> Pipes are cool
[07:12] <Ace2016> kipseron: you could chroot to it
[07:12] <kipseron> how i do that
[07:12] <BluesKaj> bah humbug ...mp3 sucks period ! :)
[07:12] <firestarter> hi all. is there anyone who has VLC or MPLAYER? I have to test if my streaming server works for remote adresses.... thnks
[07:12] <Ace2016> kipseron: run konsole, then type in sudo su, then  mkdir /mnt/root
[07:13] <Arwen> BluesKaj, I never said it didn't... I just said that it's transparent at 192K
[07:13] <BluesKaj> firestarter,try amarok
[07:13] <kipseron> and
[07:13] <vicks> hi, usb isnt working on my feisty. i can't even enter the usb module in system settings. and when i do an lsusb in konsole, it just hangs. can anyone help me?
[07:13] <dettoaltrimenti> I tried that, and I couldn't tell the difference
[07:13] <BluesKaj> sucks transparently , then :)
[07:13] <Ace2016> kipseron: mount /dev/whatever your root partition is /mnt/root
[07:13] <Arwen> firestarter, I do
[07:14] <Ace2016> kipseron: do you know what your / was?
[07:14] <Arwen> firestarter, uri?
[07:14] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:14] <kipseron> /home/kipseron
[07:14] <kipseron> you mean to that
[07:14] <kipseron> or
[07:14] <kipseron> to
[07:14] <kipseron> /media/hdb1
[07:14] <firestarter> arwen, one moment (thnks)
[07:14] <Ace2016> hdb1 was / right?
[07:15] <Ace2016> can't be it
[07:15] <kipseron> and know
[07:15] <kipseron> how i can get into the pakage manager
[07:15] <kipseron> of this partition
[07:15] <kipseron> package
[07:15] <greeko> hello
[07:15] <Ace2016> kipseron: what partition did you install ubuntu to?
[07:16] <kipseron> /media/hdb1
[07:16] <kipseron> kubuntu
[07:16] <dettoaltrimenti> which file deals with mounting things when you plug them in?
[07:16] <kipseron> how want to get into the package manager of this partiton
[07:16] <kipseron> for finish this update
[07:17] <Ace2016> oh so you mean in the livecd you can go into /dev/hdb1 and it has fodlers like bin and stuff?
[07:17] <Ace2016> kipseron: i'm trying to get to that, you have to mound it first
[07:17] <kipseron> no i want to delete package
[07:17] <kipseron> i mounted it
[07:17] <Ace2016> kipseron: do you want to finish the update?
[07:17] <kipseron> its already mount
[07:17] <kipseron> yes
[07:18] <Arwen> dettoaltrimenti, /etc/fstab
[07:18] <kipseron> i want a access to do upgrade on this partiton
[07:18] <kipseron> and its finish my update
[07:18] <Ace2016> kipseron: so the root partition has been mounted into /media/hdb1 and you see all the folders like usr and boot and stuff in there?
[07:18] <dettoaltrimenti> that's the one, thanks arwen
[07:18] <kipseron> yes
[07:19] <dettoaltrimenti> and is there a log file for mount?
[07:19] <kipseron> i think i made it
[07:19] <kipseron> sec
[07:19] <kipseron> no
[07:19] <kipseron> so you can helkp me
[07:19] <Ace2016> ok then run cd /  and then mount -t proc none /media/hdb1/proc
[07:19] <kipseron> so you can help
[07:19] <Arwen> dettoaltrimenti, /var/log/syslog ?
[07:19] <Ace2016> kipseron: done?
[07:19] <paolo> i need help with mouse
[07:20] <kipseron> sec
[07:20] <paolo> in fact after upgrading to feisty my 3rd button mouse
[07:20] <paolo> stop working
[07:21] <Ace2016> paolo: you mean middle click?
[07:21] <kipseron> yes
[07:21] <kipseron> done
[07:21] <dettoaltrimenti> well I can't find it, but I get an error about not having a newline in my fstab- what's that all about
[07:21] <Arwen> haha, my generic MICROSOFT mouse works perfectly :-)
[07:21] <Arwen> says something doesn't it?
[07:21] <Ace2016> mount -o bind /dev /media/hdb1/dev
[07:21] <kipseron> Ace2016:
[07:22] <Ace2016> kipseron: run that
[07:22] <Ace2016> kipseron: ??
[07:22] <paolo> i tried to look @ xorg.conf for some errors but i didn't find nothing .-P
[07:22] <kipseron> done
[07:22] <Ace2016> sudo chroot /media/hdb1 /bin/bash
[07:22] <Ace2016> kipseron: run that
[07:22] <paolo> clicking the wheel aka 3rd button
[07:23] <Ace2016> kipseron: does it get you into the command line?
[07:23] <kipseron> yes
[07:23] <Ace2016> kipseron: now run apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:23] <paolo> my mouse is microsoft too :-)
[07:23] <BluesKaj> as is mine
[07:23] <kipseron> not work
[07:23] <kipseron> its show only fonts
[07:24] <Ace2016> kipseron: what error
[07:24] <kipseron> The following packages will be upgraded:
[07:24] <kipseron>   ttf-arphic-ukai
[07:24] <kipseron> its do only that
[07:24] <rjt> hmm
[07:24] <Ace2016> thats strange
[07:24] <rjt> i was wondering if someone is around and maybe able to help me figure out my wifi problems
[07:25] <kipseron> ace
[07:25] <kipseron> so you know what to do
[07:25] <kipseron> ?
[07:25] <Ace2016> kipseron: try apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:25] <kipseron> no
[07:26] <Ace2016> no?
[07:26] <kipseron> the same problem
[07:26] <Ace2016> problem?
[07:26] <kipseron> only that package
[07:26] <kipseron> The following packages will be upgraded:
[07:26] <kipseron>   ttf-arphic-ukai
[07:26] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper | rjt
[07:26] <ubotu> rjt: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:27] <paolo> i also looked for differences between the current xorg.conf and some other previously bak-upped
[07:27] <kipseron> ace
[07:27] <paolo> it doesn't help
[07:27] <kipseron> so you have more ideas
[07:27] <Ace2016> open a new konsole tab and do ls -a  /media/hdb1  and paste the contents of the current konsole tab and the new one in the pastebin:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:28] <firestarter> arwen: this is the url for VLC  rtsp://<IP_ADDRESS>:8854/mpeg4ESVideoTest
[07:29] <firestarter> can you tell me if you see the streaming? (thnks)
[07:29] <kipseron> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17089/
[07:29] <kipseron> ace
[07:29] <kipseron> here it is
[07:30] <Ace2016> kipseron: and the contents of the first konsole tab?
[07:30] <Arwen> firestarter, no data
[07:30] <Ace2016> the one in which you tried to do the update?
[07:30] <firestarter> Arwen: are you bhind a FW?
[07:31] <Arwen> yes, what's that have to do with your stream though?
[07:31] <kipseron> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17091/
[07:31] <kipseron> here it is
[07:31] <Ace2016> see that there explains a lot
[07:32] <firestarter> Arwen: i have to test if the streaming is reachable from a remote host
[07:32] <Arwen> firestarter, VLC connects to your server but fails to receive any data
[07:32] <firestarter> maybe Arwen your FW blocks the incoming data
[07:32] <kipseron> ace
[07:32] <kipseron> you know what i need to do
[07:32] <kipseron> ?
[07:32] <Arwen> firestarter, um, no
[07:32] <Arwen> your server is just misconfigured
[07:33] <Ace2016> kipseron: umount /dev/hdb1
[07:33] <kipseron> ok
[07:33] <kipseron> and
[07:33] <firestarter> Arwen: try this other one, plz:
[07:33] <Ace2016> kipseron: open a new konsole tab, and don't type anything about chroot randomly in tehre
[07:33] <firestarter>   rtsp://<IP_ADDRESS>:8554/mpeg4ESVideoTest
[07:33] <kipseron> ok
[07:33] <kipseron> what to do
[07:34] <Arwen> firestarter, same problem, rtp connect but no data
[07:34] <firestarter> Arwen: ok, thnks for your support
[07:34] <easy1> !compiz
[07:34] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:34] <kipseron> ace
[07:35] <Ace2016> kipseron: do sudo su, then mkdir /temp then mount /dev/hdb1 /temp, then mount -t proc none /temp/proc then mount -o bind /dev /temp/dev
[07:35] <easy1> does anyone know if the compiz guide works for fiesty
[07:36] <easy1> this one !compiz
[07:36] <Ace2016> now do sudo chroot /temp /bin/bash
[07:36] <kipseron> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# mount /dev/hdb1 /temp
[07:36] <kipseron> mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted or /temp busy
[07:36] <kipseron> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hdb1 is mounted on /mnt/root
[07:36] <kipseron> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu#
[07:37] <Ace2016> kipseron: ok run umount /dev/hdb1
[07:37] <Ace2016> done?#
[07:37] <kipseron> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# umount /dev/hdb1
[07:37] <kipseron> umount: /mnt/root: device is busy
[07:37] <kipseron> umount: /mnt/root: device is busy
[07:37] <kipseron> root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu#
[07:38] <Ace2016> close konsole and start a fresh one, and close any file browsers looking at /mnt/root
[07:38] <Ace2016> then run sudo su, then umount /dev/hdb1
[07:38] <Ace2016> does that work?
[07:38] <kipseron> no
[07:38] <kipseron> busy agein
[07:38] <Ace2016> ok well the fastest way to solve this is to restart
[07:38] <Ace2016> so restart and come back
[07:39] <CygnusX1> Has anyone added Kubuntu-desktop to Ubuntu 7.04 and ran into the issue in which after logging in via KDM, the screen blanks momentarily and then drops you back to the KDM login screen?  (I am currently using GDM to login to KDE without issue...well, except shutdown and restart are not available except from GDM)
[07:40] <emanuel> :o
[07:40] <adlsfkjad> hello
[07:40] <Ace2016> hi
[07:41] <Ace2016> kipseron: u there?
[07:41] <adlsfkjad> i have a quick question for somebody
[07:41] <aleksanteri> adlsfkjad: ask
[07:41] <adlsfkjad> you ready lol?
[07:41] <adlsfkjad> ok im runnin 2 os's
[07:41] <Ace2016> which 2?
[07:41] <adlsfkjad> i have windows xp and ubuntu on one hard drive
[07:42] <Ace2016> and you want to access linux files from windows?
[07:42] <adlsfkjad> actually i wanna do it the other way around i want to acces all my windows files using linux
[07:43] <Ace2016> is it ntfs???
[07:43] <Arwen> !ntfs | adlsfkjad
[07:43] <ubotu> adlsfkjad: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:43] <adlsfkjad> yes
[07:43] <Ace2016> or fat32??
[07:43] <adlsfkjad> nts\
[07:43] <adlsfkjad> ntfs*
[07:43] <Ace2016> oh well you can read ntfs but not write, writing to ntfs is dangerous
[07:43] <MegaVolt> hi, im having a problem with dist-upgrade: http://rafb.net/p/sexxAg33.html       help pls :(
[07:43] <kinus__> has anyone managed to access linux files from a windows boot? i've got close by running a virtual pc in windows and then creating a samba share
[07:43] <adlsfkjad> all i want to do is listein to my music but it wont find the hard drive...
[07:44] <adlsfkjad> ive tried mounting and everything yet it wont lemme do anythin
[07:44] <MegaVolt> kinus__: www.fs-driver.org ?
[07:44] <adiga> quit
[07:44] <Ace2016> adlsfkjad: thats fine, you can listen to the music
[07:44] <adlsfkjad> yes explain to me how thats where im lost
[07:44] <Ace2016> adlsfkjad: it should be mounted in /media/
[07:45] <adlsfkjad> ill have to check again but its not in there
[07:45] <MegaVolt> adlsfkjad: what kind of harddisk / partition is it?
[07:45] <adlsfkjad> what you mean
[07:46] <kinus__> Thanks MegaVolt, i don't trust it though
[07:46] <MegaVolt> adlsfkjad: e.g. if its on the first sata disc second partition try: mkdir /mnt/test && mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/test
[07:46] <MegaVolt> as root
[07:46] <MegaVolt> kinus__: using it for about 2 years now, it works fine
[07:46] <Ace2016> adlsfkjad: post the contents of sudo fdisk -l and run kdesu kate and open /etc/fstab and copy the contents also to a pastebin,    http://pastebin.com/
[07:47] <kinus__> MegaVolt, i don't run windows anymore...that was a problem I was trying to solve about 3 years ago. Was just curious if anyone had solved it yet
[07:47] <jervine> kinus__: fs-driver is pretty good... there's also other utilities like e2fs explorer (or something like that)
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> peter@Omerta:~$ sudo fdisk -l
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> Password:
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> Disk /dev/hda: 20.4 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>0 bytes
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2482 cylinders
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[07:48] <adlsfkjad>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> /dev/hda1   *           1        1589    12763611    7  HPFS/NTFS
[07:48] <Ace2016> me wonders when kipseron will be back
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> /dev/hda2            1590        2176     4715077+  83  Linux
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> /dev/hda3            2177        2482     2457945   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[07:48] <Ace2016> adlsfkjad: wait!!!!!!
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> Disk /dev/hdb: 122.9 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>36 bytes
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14946 cylinders
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[07:48] <Ace2016> adlsfkjad: STOP!!!!
[07:48] <adlsfkjad>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> /dev/hdb1               1       14946   120053713+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[07:48] <Ace2016> STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> peter@Omerta:~$
[07:48] <MegaVolt> adlsfkjad: use pastebin or smething like that pls
[07:48] <adlsfkjad> i stopped lol
[07:48] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | adlsfkjad
[07:48] <ubotu> adlsfkjad: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:48] <MegaVolt> see topic
[07:48] <Ace2016> adlsfkjad: i said copy it to a pastebin!!! http://pastebin.com/
[07:49] <adlsfkjad> to late haha
[07:49] <adlsfkjad> im workin on that now
[07:49] <MegaVolt> what you need is: mkdir /media/windows && mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows
[07:49] <Ace2016> now post your /etc/fstab at the pastebin
[07:49] <jervine> MegaVolt: he probably wants hdb1 - that seems to be the larger (data?) partition
[07:50] <Kubuntu> Hello
[07:50] <Ace2016> hi
[07:50] <MegaVolt> jervine: right .. didnt see the last line ;)
[07:50] <Kubuntu> How can I make cool music in LMMS?
[07:50] <adlsfkjad> ya the bigger one is my second harddrive
[07:50] <MegaVolt> what you need is: mkdir /media/windows && mount /dev/hdb1 /media/windows
[07:51] <adlsfkjad> cant create directory
[07:51] <MegaVolt> adlsfkjad: as root
[07:52] <Ace2016> adlsfkjad: can you post the contents of /etc/fstab???  run "sudo cat /etc/fstab" in the command line and paste it into the pastebin
[07:52] <yonkeltron> how does one get to the adept installer interface?
[07:52] <LjL> Ace2016: fstab should be readable as non-root too
[07:52] <MegaVolt> http://rafb.net/p/sexxAg33.html       can anyone help?
[07:52] <LjL> yonkeltron: K / System / Adept Manager
[07:52] <jussi01> ok, ive just reinstalled, and my adept doesnt start... it tries but it just doesnt start. any ideas?
[07:53] <adlsfkjad> its not lettin me do fstab
[07:53] <Ace2016> jussi01: try installing synapitc, sudo apt-get install synaptic, and start it using kdesu synaptic
[07:53] <yonkeltron> LjL: yes but that's the adept manager and i want to know how to get to the interface pictured here: http://shots.linuxquestions.org/scaled/Kubuntu%207.04/21.gif
[07:53] <to0om> hi all, a question: i'd like to get java working with konqueror (e.g. with map24.com). i'm using feisty and have sun-java installed from the ubuntu repository. i also have java enabled in the konqueror settings and have entered the full java executable path, but map24.com still doesn't work. does anyone have an idea?
[07:53] <Ace2016> O_O
[07:53] <adlsfkjad> permission denied lol
[07:53] <MegaVolt> jussi01: maybe remove (with purge) adept and reinstall ?
[07:54] <Cable86> how we doin?
[07:54] <jussi01> MegaVolt: yeah, ill give that a try
[07:54] <adlsfkjad> do i have to format the second one linux format?
[07:54] <MegaVolt> yonkeltron: kde start menu - add/remove programs
[07:55] <MegaVolt> or console: adept_installer
[07:56] <LjL> yonkeltron: err, that's jude K / Add/Remove...
[07:56] <LjL> jsut
[07:56] <LjL> gah, just
[07:56] <Kubuntu> What cool can I install?
[07:56] <kinus__> qtparted
[07:56] <kinus__> yakuake
[07:56] <LjL> !info coolmain
[07:56] <ubotu> Package coolmain does not exist in feisty
[07:56] <aro> Kubuntu: define cool
[07:57] <LjL> !info coolmail
[07:57] <ubotu> coolmail: Mail notifier with 3d graphics. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3-9 (feisty), package size 19 kB, installed size 104 kB
[07:57] <kinus__> devede
[07:57] <kinus__> acidrip
[07:57] <kinus__> gtkpod
[07:57] <kinus__> chromium
[07:57] <kinus__> supertux
[07:57] <kinus__> tuxracer
[07:58] <kinus__> those are all cool things
[07:58] <Cable86> how would i go about changing the K icon?
[07:58] <Ace2016> kinus__: you missed the best one, beryl :D
[07:58] <Ace2016> Cable86: install kbfx
[07:58] <kinus__> Ace2016: ahh...of course
[07:58] <kinus__> though i assume evryone has beryl installed by now
[07:58] <Cable86> i dont use beryl
[07:59] <Cable86> i used it a LONG time ago, but it was too unstable so i just stayed away from it
[07:59] <BluesKaj> why beryl ...why asume :)
[07:59] <MegaVolt> i also dont use it ... but i got it installed to have someting to show if there will ever be a girl anywhere near me
[08:00] <Ace2016> Cable86: well not its stable enough to use, mine has never crashed so far in feisty :D#
[08:00] <soulrider> i had problems with beryl in ubuntu. but it works great for me in Arch
[08:00] <Cable86> nice....i last used it back when its interface looked exactly like compiz, but it just had some extras :-P
[08:00] <kinus__> a great beryl theme ---> http://www.beryl-themes.org/content/show.php/Kore?content=54701
[08:00] <soulrider> my beryl uses mi KDE theme
[08:01] <MegaVolt> cmon guys anyone pls :( http://rafb.net/p/sexxAg33.html    how to fix this?
[08:01] <philip_> i like beryl in feisty but when i try to run wolfenstein it doesn't go full screen
[08:01] <rjt> i just wish my wireless intel card worked
[08:01] <Cable86> i wonder how things will progress with compiz/beryl now that theyre merging
[08:01] <MegaVolt> that beryl theme looks ... not really good
[08:02] <MegaVolt> more like " i want to be vista but im too ugly to even do that "
[08:02] <aro> MegaVolt: to each his own
[08:02] <MegaVolt> yea
[08:02] <Cable86> Ace2016: so kbfx will give me the option to change the icon?
[08:02] <soulrider> MegaVolt: try doing "sudo aptitude update" and "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade"
[08:03] <soulrider> MegaVolt: vista doesnt look that good
[08:03] <soulrider> yes, it looks nice, but not that much
[08:03] <MegaVolt> soulrider: i get that error message trying to do dist-upgrade (and upgrade, update works fine)
[08:03] <jubuntu> should one use apt-get or aptitude?
[08:03] <Kubuntu> Vista looks like your grandmas ass!
[08:03] <Cable86> put it all in one command...."sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade" goes faster that way :-D
[08:03] <MegaVolt> think the black is a little too depressing
[08:03] <soulrider> MegaVolt: aptitude or apt-get ?
[08:03] <MegaVolt> apt-get
[08:03] <Kubuntu> apt-get i think!
[08:04] <soulrider> aptitude is better than apt-get
[08:04] <MegaVolt> aptitude is something else?
[08:04] <soulrider> handles dependencies better in some cases
[08:04] <Cable86> jubuntu:  read this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude
[08:04] <MegaVolt> kk ill try ;)
[08:04] <soulrider> everyone has been linking tot hats ite, wtf is it? :P
[08:04] <yonkeltron> LjL: is the adept-installer interface present in edgy?
[08:04] <MegaVolt> no, aptitude giving me the same error
[08:05] <Cable86> soulrider:  its just a great guide site that aysiu (from the forums) made
[08:05] <Kubuntu> How often should I update Kubuntu? Can it do it automaticaly?
[08:05] <soulrider> i see, can we all contribute?
[08:05] <soulrider> last night i was thinking of making a quick FAQ for newbies
[08:05] <soulrider> with the most basic questions, quick andswers
[08:06] <Kubuntu> Ho made Kubuntu?
[08:06] <Cable86> well, im guessing you could add to the wiki somehow, or write a entry in the tutorials and tips section of the forums
[08:06] <Kubuntu> Bill Gates?
[08:06] <aro> Yea Bill Gates made it last night
[08:06] <kaneknows> so is there a way you can force a cdrom to eject?
[08:06] <kaneknows> its not mounted
[08:06] <soulrider> eject
[08:06] <Cable86> push the eject button?
[08:07] <MegaVolt> kaneknows: press the button
[08:07] <aro> You can physically put a pin in the little hole that forces the door to open on the CDROM
[08:07] <Kubuntu> Hehe
[08:07] <soulrider> Kubuntu: no way bill made this :P
[08:07] <Kubuntu> Ho made this?
[08:07] <Ace2016> restart the pc and unmount it during the restart
[08:07] <Kubuntu> A Deutch guy?
[08:07] <soulrider> Kubuntu: Mark Shuttleworth founded Ubuntu
[08:07] <aro> A lot of people made it
[08:07] <aro> It's a community effort
[08:07] <kaneknows> aro thats truee but thats a little hackey eh?
[08:07] <soulrider> Linus Torvalds was hte one that wrote Linux originally
[08:07] <soulrider> Kubuntu: linux is mantained byt he community now
[08:07] <aro> kaneknows, you said it wasn't mounted so that is what I suggested
[08:08] <Kubuntu> Not by that Deutch guy?
[08:08] <kaneknows> : )
[08:08] <soulrider> no
[08:08] <soulrider> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux Kubuntu read that
[08:09] <Kubuntu> How can I contribute?
[08:09] <ultrafuzz> I just ran the Distro Upgrade last night and now I cannot access or read my USB HD, i have it enables but "i do not have the rights to open it"...any thoughts?
[08:09] <soulrider> Kubuntu: lots of ways
[08:10] <Cable86> is there a way to make a konqueror quicklauncher that i can use to pick which profile i want it to load with?
[08:10] <esben> ultrafuzz: Does it mount? Try typing "mount" in a terminal
[08:10] <Kubuntu> How can I make a game for instance?
[08:10] <ultrafuzz> esben: ill try
[08:10] <Cable86> like...one that gives me a choice, or one for each view profile?
[08:10] <soulrider> Kubuntu:  you would ahve to know programming :P
[08:11] <Kubuntu> Where can I learn that?
[08:11] <Kubuntu> Isn't it a WYSIWYG editor for games?
[08:11] <MegaVolt> Kubuntu: google c++ tutorial
[08:11] <soulrider> not that i know of Kubuntu
[08:11] <soulrider> i need to go study, be back later
[08:11] <ultrafuzz> esben: already mounted...still cannot access
[08:11] <Kubuntu> Is c++ for kubuntu?
[08:11] <MegaVolt> and google opengl tutorial
[08:12] <si^> hey, someone here with ATI + fglrx who can help me? i installed fglrx when i run with DRI disabled it's ok when i run with DRI enabled kde hangs after loading
[08:12] <Kubuntu> I thougth it was for windows!
[08:12] <MegaVolt> Kubuntu: c++ is for almost everything, including kubuntu
[08:12] <jubuntu> why do you want to enable DRI with fgrlx?
[08:12] <Kubuntu> So if I make a c++ game, then it would work in both linux and windows?
[08:12] <si^> jubuntu: 3d acceleration?
[08:13] <MegaVolt> Kubuntu: if you use the right libs: yes
[08:13] <MegaVolt> Kubuntu: try google for c++, opengl, sdl
[08:13] <BluesKaj> jubuntu, he's talikning about direct rendering, so he can run apps like google earth etc
[08:13] <aro> Kubuntu: you really should read up on C++ by googling it
[08:13] <aro> Kubuntu: you'll learn a lot more than in here
[08:14] <Kubuntu> But where can I find a complyer that worx in kubuntu?
[08:14] <ultrafuzz> Kubuntu: Usae Adept and search for C++ Complier
[08:14] <jubuntu> apt-get install g++ ;)
[08:14] <MegaVolt> si^: isnt fglrx the ati driver with (more or less full) 3d functionality? then there is no need for dri
[08:14] <Kubuntu> sudo apt-get install c++ ?
[08:14] <esben> Kubuntu: gcc is the name of the compiler everyone uses on linux
[08:15] <MegaVolt> gcc for c and g++ for c++
[08:15] <Kubuntu> I already hav gcc
[08:15] <BluesKaj> MegaVolt, if one uses the proprietary fglrx driver , it won't dri with the open source one
[08:15] <MegaVolt> java is probably easier to start with
[08:15] <esben> Kubuntu: Then ou are set :)
[08:15] <Kubuntu> How do I start gcc?
[08:15] <MegaVolt> BluesKaj: exactly ;) it cant work that way
[08:16] <esben> Kubuntu: Find a C++ tutorial site. Try going from wikipedia
[08:16] <Kubuntu> But I need to start the program first!
[08:16] <Kubuntu> How?
[08:16] <ultrafuzz> esben: already mounted...still cannot access
[08:16] <rjt> intel wireless
[08:16] <rjt> has there been a fix yet?
[08:16] <aro> Kubuntu, you don't "start" gcc
[08:16] <BluesKaj> yeah MegaVolt unless our italian friend who wrote Envy comes up with a version for Feisty
[08:16] <Kubuntu> Why not?
[08:16] <aro> Kubuntu, you really need to read up on basic programming, try googling it
[08:16] <jubuntu> linux kernel 2.6.20 contains the latest driver for ipw3945
[08:17] <Kubuntu> But I need a complyer!
[08:17] <aro> Kubuntu, there are great websites out there that will answer ALL of what you are asking
[08:17] <Kubuntu> Such as?
[08:17] <aro> Kubutnu, gcc is a compiler
[08:17] <aro> Kubuntu, www.google.com
[08:17] <beau> when i do iwconfig i get access point:invalid any suggestions?
[08:17] <Arwen> Kubuntu, you run gcc like this "gcc -o binaryfile sourcefile.c"
[08:17] <si^> MegaVolt: no idea i want to make it functional... for now i have 2 options, when i set in bios AGP to 4 MB it runs without DRI when i set 128 MB it loads with DRI etc... and hang after KDE is loaded it hangs i can move mouse but all freeze
[08:18] <beau> i also tried to set the ap to any but it didnt work
[08:18] <esben> Kubuntu: Try here :) http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/
[08:18] <Kubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu-desktop:~$ gcc: sourcefile.c: No such file or directory
[08:18] <Kubuntu> bash: gcc:: command not found
[08:18] <Kubuntu> ubuntu@ubuntu-desktop:~$ gcc: no input files
[08:18] <Kubuntu> bash: gcc:: command not found
[08:18] <Kubuntu> ops
[08:18] <jubuntu> what ati ?
[08:18] <Kubuntu> !pastebin
[08:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:18] <aro> Kubuntu, PLEASE read up on basic programming, it sounds like you don't know where to begin
[08:19] <frojnd> why is my soudn all weired when I connect headphones ???? plase help? If I have speakers sound is OK, but when swich the cables sound is all weird.. any ideas??
[08:19] <Arwen> Kubuntu, you're too lame to write programs, go die please
[08:19] <Kubuntu> but it says I neeed a coplier, gcc won't run!
[08:19] <MegaVolt> si^: the flxgr driver cant work with dri (afaik)
[08:19] <si^> MegaVolt: i run Kubuntu 6.10 + ati-driver-installer-8.28.8.run [ method: http://forum.ubuntu.ro/viewtopic.php?id=1355 ]  + Radeon 9100 @ 128 MB
[08:19] <aro> Kubuntu, are you being serious or just trolling?
[08:19] <jubuntu> (II) fglrx(0): DRI initialization successfull!
[08:19] <Kubuntu> I'm serious!
[08:19] <beau> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17093/
[08:19] <si^> MegaVolt: so what i have to do to make it running 3D games, cedega etc...?
[08:20] <aro> Kubuntu, this is the last time I'm going to say this, go to http://www.google.com and search for programming tutorials
[08:20] <Arwen> si^, buy an nvidia card..
[08:20] <photon> Kubuntu: gcc -o mybin sourcefile.c
[08:20] <jubuntu> si^: did you check this one https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:20] <aro> photon, he doesn't know what that means, he types it verbatim
[08:20] <jubuntu> 3d ati works just fine
[08:20] <si^> Arwen: i'm really thinking about this :( i spent whole day
[08:20] <si^> lsmod|grep fglrx
[08:20] <si^> fglrx                 406988  0
[08:20] <si^> agpgart                34888  2 fglrx,via_agp
[08:20] <MegaVolt> si^: the ati driver should provide all the functionality of dri by itself
[08:20] <MegaVolt> si^: sadly it doesnt do a good job at it ... the ati driver simply sucks ... id never buy an ati card because of that ;)
[08:20] <Kubuntu> gcc: sourcefile.c: No such file or directory
[08:20] <Kubuntu> gcc: no input files
[08:21] <aro> photon, see
[08:21] <Kubuntu> That happens!
[08:21] <aro> Kubuntu, www.google.com
[08:21] <si^> fglrxinfo
[08:21] <si^> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[08:21] <si^> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[08:21] <si^> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[08:21] <si^> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)
[08:21] <sylvisj> ok! so
[08:21] <hendaus> somebody help me please!
[08:21] <BluesKaj> telling him to buy nvisdia doesn't help his immediate problem
[08:21] <MegaVolt> si^: nothing, the fglrx driver alone is capable of running 3d games
[08:21] <Kubuntu> nvida rules
[08:21] <jubuntu> all i had to do was to run "sudo aticonfig --initial"
[08:21] <si^> jubuntu: i set that initial....
[08:22] <BluesKaj> si^, why are you fooling with the bios for dri anyway ?
[08:22] <sylvisj> The NVIDIA kernel module does not appear to be receiving interrupts generated by the NVIDIA graphics device PCI:3:0:0. Please see Chapter 5: Common Problems in the readme for additionial info. Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device!
[08:22] <hendaus> i am using ktorrent 2.1, can anyone give me the new one for edgy?
[08:22] <MegaVolt> si^: by the way: world of padman rulez
[08:22] <Kubuntu> jubuntu what is jubuntu?
[08:22] <sylvisj> can anyone help?
[08:22] <Arwen> si^, that means your fglrx isn't running
[08:22] <si^> i have that:
[08:22] <si^> LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose fglrxinfo
[08:22] <si^> libGL error: XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable returned false
[08:22] <si^> libGL error: XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable returned false
[08:22] <sylvisj> please?
[08:22] <feldegast> could someone help me get a grub splashimage to work? i keep getting "read" errors
[08:22] <Arwen> you have to have a vendor string like "ati tech X1950XT" or something
[08:22] <jubuntu> what ati card do you have?
[08:22] <si^> BluesKaj: to run KDE... because when i set AGP aperture to 128 MB it hangs...
[08:23] <BluesKaj> well, don't
[08:23] <si^> Arwen: yeah but i set it in my xorg.conf
[08:23] <nvon> hi all
[08:23] <frojnd> I don't understand why when I connect headphones, sound is all weird,  Ican't hear vocals and when I talk to someone trough skype other person hear himself?? obviously is omething wrong with audio settings. Any ideas how to make sound normal???
[08:23] <Arwen> si^, make sure there are no references to "driver ati" or "driver radeon"
[08:23] <Kubuntu> What programs burns cds in kubuntu?
[08:23] <BluesKaj> si^, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver#head-839ea46a1da3bee0839b28a9595722a9cdf07797
[08:24] <si^> Arwen: in xorg.confg?
[08:24] <sylvisj> The NVIDIA kernel module does not appear to be receiving interrupts generated by the NVIDIA graphics device PCI:3:0:0. Please see Chapter 5: Common Problems in the readme for additionial info. Failed to initialize the NVIDIA graphics device!
[08:24] <sylvisj> I'm given taht error by xinit
[08:24] <sylvisj> My X is apparently quite borked
[08:24] <Arwen> si^, yes
[08:24] <sylvisj> Can anyone help me fix it?
[08:24] <si^> so i have to disable "ati" driver?
[08:24] <feldegast> Kubuntu use k3b
[08:24] <Kubuntu> Don't use NVIDA drivers they break x!!
[08:24] <si^> and just leave fglrx ?
[08:24] <Arwen> replace all references to "driver ati" with "driver fglrx"
[08:24] <Kubuntu> Thenks
[08:24] <nvon> i upgraded to 7.4 and now i can't connect to the inet. i can't even talk to my dsl modem. upon login, the network works for a few minutes, and then nothing. any ideas??
[08:24] <Arwen> and make sure there's only one device entry
[08:24] <sylvisj> Kubuntu, wtf?
[08:25] <si^> i have ati + fgrlx in xorg.conf
[08:25] <Kubuntu> I installed the Nvida driver, it broke x!
[08:25] <sylvisj> but really, can anyone help me out?
[08:25] <frojnd> I don't understand why when I connect headphones, sound is all weird,  Ican't hear vocals and when I talk to someone trough skype other person hear himself?? obviously is omething wrong with audio settings. Any ideas how to make sound normal???
[08:25] <BluesKaj> Arwen,, that doesn't work on some Ati cards
[08:25] <feldegast> nvon sounds like you have a firewall blocking things
[08:25] <Arwen> BluesKaj, eh?
[08:25] <si^> wait i'll pastebin my xorg.conf
[08:25] <sylvisj> What the hell should I use if not nvidia drivers?
[08:25] <BluesKaj> si^, check this site out .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver#head-839ea46a1da3bee0839b28a9595722a9cdf07797
[08:26] <Leckey> nvidia-glx-new
[08:26] <feldegast> sylvisj u can use nv drivers....
[08:26] <nvon> feldegast: i uninstalled guarddog and firestarter and clamav. and also it works for ~2 minutes. if it were a firewall, it shouldn't work at all, i think
[08:26] <sylvisj> Leckey, why those over the nvidia binaries?
[08:26] <Kubuntu> No NVIDA drivers is BADD!
[08:27] <feldegast> nvon ok that doesn't sound like a firewall....
[08:27] <nvon> :-)
[08:27] <feldegast> could someone help me get a grub splashimage to work? i keep getting "read" errors
[08:27] <maki> help
[08:27] <si^> Arwen: BluesKaj MegaVolt here is my conf: http://tinyurl.com/2yw3y5
[08:27] <sylvisj> Kubunt, and the reason is...
[08:28] <sylvisj> Leckey, after an apt-get install nvidia-glx-new, still getting the same error
[08:28] <Leckey> have you edited your x11 conf?
[08:28] <sylvisj> It's set to use the nvidia driver if that's what you mean
[08:28] <Leckey> yeah :(
[08:28] <Arwen> si^, Section "Device"	Identifier  "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon R200 QM [Radeon 9100] "	Driver      "ati"	BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"EndSection - try putting "fglrx" instead of "ati" here
[08:29] <Leckey> what card you got?
[08:29] <Arwen> make sure to back up though
[08:29] <sylvisj> 8800gts
[08:29] <MegaVolt> si^: remove the option "dri"
[08:29] <sylvisj> I'm just gonna see what envy can do
[08:29] <Kubuntu> I got 3.4 ghz CPU!
[08:29] <nvon> i upgraded to 7.4 and now i can't connect to the inet. i can't even talk to my dsl modem. upon login, the network works for a few minutes, and then nothing. any ideas??
[08:29] <soon> anyone familiar with NFS using the KDE System Settings gui??
[08:29] <Arwen> si^, oh wait, your card is 9100? fglrx doesn't support it anymore
[08:29] <Leckey> I setup drivers for my 7300 GO today
[08:29] <sylvisj> that's great, I'm surprised your prescott hasn't suffered SPDS yet
[08:29] <si^> yes 9100
[08:29] <si^> but i use older driver
[08:29] <si^> 8.28.8
[08:29] <hendaus> i am using ktorrent 2.1, can anyone give me the new one for edgy? please
[08:30] <sylvisj> wow
[08:30] <sylvisj> envy fixed it
[08:30] <Arwen> si^, huh, you know that r200 is full support by open driver, right?
[08:30] <sylvisj> Id unno how
[08:30] <si^> i tried envy too... same effect
[08:30] <Leckey> could have got the official drivers from nvidia site
[08:30] <Leckey> instead of using the repository
[08:30] <BluesKaj> si^, change composite to  "0" in the Extensions section
[08:30] <sylvisj> Leckey, those didn't work either
[08:30] <sylvisj> those were my first attempt
[08:30] <Leckey> ah
[08:30] <sylvisj> and god damn it
[08:30] <si^> BluesKaj: 0 != Disable ?
[08:30] <Arwen> BluesKaj, no, it should be "disable"
[08:30] <sylvisj>  this got me further
[08:30] <conchi> hola
[08:30] <sylvisj> but still isn't working
[08:30] <hendaus> helpers how can i see the version of my kubuntu?
[08:30] <Kubuntu> use the nv drivers!
[08:31] <conchi> only english??
[08:31] <si^> Arwen: so u think i should put there fglrx instead of ati ?
[08:31] <sylvisj> 2d is bad
[08:31] <sylvisj> 3d is good
[08:31] <Kubuntu> You can't remember?
[08:31] <MegaVolt> anyone knows how to fix a broken apt-get /aptitude? :( http://rafb.net/p/sexxAg33.html
[08:31] <Leckey> we like fps > 2 Kubuntu
[08:31] <Arwen> si^, yeah, try it - but make sure to backup xorg.conf first
[08:31] <MegaVolt> (happens at dist-upgrade)
[08:31] <LeXxiK> Can anyone help me with VPN in Feistier? I must install pptp-linux and network-manager-pptp, but my internet only from vpn
[08:31] <LeXxiK> I've downloaded these packages separately, but they do not exist, dependency problems.
[08:31] <BluesKaj> he has the same card I use Arwen and my dri and fgl_glxgears works fine
[08:31] <jubuntu> sudo apt-get -f install
[08:31] <Kubuntu> I also like FTP!
[08:31] <si^> Arwen: ok give me a minute i'll check this
[08:31] <MegaVolt> LeXxiK: i also had troubles with network-manager and vpn, i switched to kvpnc
[08:32] <MegaVolt> LeXxiK: imho the better program by far
[08:32] <LeXxiK> hm
[08:32] <hendaus> helpers i want help!!!
[08:32] <feldegast> could someone help me get a grub splashimage to work? i keep getting "read" errors
[08:32] <Arwen> si^, oh wait, sorry, it should be composte 0
[08:32] <MegaVolt> LeXxiK: never got the network-manager to work properly, cant really help you with that sorry ;) did try for about a day
[08:32] <Arwen> composite 0*
[08:33] <sylvisj> Can someone paste their Device sectino from xorg.conf?
[08:33] <BluesKaj> Composite "0"
[08:33] <nvon> i upgraded to 7.4 and now i can't connect to the inet. i can't even talk to my dsl modem. upon login, the network works for a few minutes, and then nothing. any ideas??
[08:33] <esben> hendaus: If /etc/apt/sources.list contains the name "feisty" you are on feisty. If edgy, edgy :)
[08:33] <Arwen> sylvisj, why? it won't apply to your system
[08:34] <MegaVolt> sylvisj: http://rafb.net/p/F5nXov68.html
[08:34] <sylvisj> i just needed the BusID part, which I found
[08:34] <sylvisj> for the BusID line
[08:34] <MegaVolt> why bus id?
[08:34] <ralph_> hi, can someone help my installing Nvidia?
[08:34] <sylvisj> maybe specifying the correct bus ID would help. no.
[08:34] <LeXxiK> MegaVolt: Thanks
[08:35] <hendaus> esben,  i have mde
[08:35] <hendaus> esben,  i have kde
[08:35] <sylvisj> This is just damned annoying now
[08:35] <hendaus> esben,  what is the code to show me the version
[08:36] <sylvisj> 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0193 (rev a2)
[08:36] <BluesKaj> si^, there is a new fglrx driver out on the AMD website
[08:36] <nvon> i upgraded to 7.4 and now i can't connect to the inet. i can't even talk to my dsl modem. upon login, the network works for a few minutes, and then nothing. any ideas??
[08:36] <ralph_> hi, can someone help my installing Nvidia?... I get only a cursor after activating...
[08:37] <esben> hendaus: Open console, and enter "uname -a". If the result is something contains "2.6.20-15-generic " you are on feisty
[08:37] <esben> hendaus: "Konsole", I meant
[08:38] <MegaVolt> nvon: happened to me too, solved it by editing the /etc/network/interfaces and removing the "/&%&"$ network manager
[08:38] <sylvisj> I need help
[08:38] <MegaVolt> apt-get remove --purge network-manager ;)
[08:39] <nvon> MegaVolt: i have done that. and still nothing :-(
[08:39] <MegaVolt> :( not good
[08:40] <sylvisj> unbelievable
[08:40] <MegaVolt> can you pastebin your interfaces ?
[08:40] <sylvisj> nv is working
[08:40] <sylvisj> but nvidia isn't
[08:40] <sylvisj> Wtf
[08:40] <sylvisj> Wtf-city
[08:41] <MegaVolt> sylvisj: did you try the nvidia auto-setup tools? nvidia-glx-config or nvidia-xconfig
[08:41] <sylvisj> Yeah
[08:41] <snap> ok who wants to help me get beryl working?
[08:41] <sylvisj> anything using the nvidia driver gave me a dirty error
[08:41] <nvon> MegaVolt: i am on win now, but if i remember, it's auto eth0, static, <IP_ADDRESS> gateway: <IP_ADDRESS> mask: <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:41] <MegaVolt> <IP_ADDRESS> ? whats unusual
[08:41] <hendaus> esben, it shows this Linux ubuntu 2.6.17-11-386 #2 Thu Feb 1 19:50:13 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:41] <MegaVolt> -w+t
[08:42] <Rictoo> I'm on frozen-bubble, and I got a friend on, but he says he is on a server with 8 ppl
[08:42] <hendaus> esben,  coz my ktorrent is 2.1 and i need the new one
[08:42] <Rictoo> but there isn't a server with 8 people
[08:42] <Rictoo> are theyre different master servers?
[08:42] <Rictoo> :S
[08:42] <nvon> MegaVolt: adsl modem is <IP_ADDRESS> so i set my comp to <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:42] <sylvisj> holy jumping jesus this is aggrivating
[08:43] <Graham> sylvisj: You've just topped my list of wierd things to hear when joining an IRC channel.
[08:43] <dhorn> Hey, does anyone know how to change the text color on kicker in elegant mode?
[08:43] <esben> hendaus: You are still on Edgy then. Time to upgrade?
[08:43] <sylvisj> Graham: A wine crash killed my nvidia
[08:44] <sylvisj> Graham: Expect to hear weird things fueled by anger
[08:44] <hendaus> esben,  can u please give me the update link coz i am newbie on this
[08:44] <Graham> sylvisj: Have you tried restarting X?
[08:44] <tmbg> nvon, I'm having network issues as well. some sites time out that work from other computers. no idea why yet
[08:44] <sylvisj> . . .
[08:44] <feldegast> dhorn wish i knew, i'd change it
[08:44] <sylvisj> About 12 times
[08:44] <sylvisj> I had to switch to the nv driver to get it to work
[08:44] <sylvisj> nvidia driver died hard
[08:44] <sylvisj> or so it seems
[08:45] <dhorn> feldegast: it's so annoying, I want a dark background but I can't get the text color to change
[08:45] <esben> hendaus: 1) Start adept 2) Press the update buttom 3) Press the upgrade buttom. After either 2 or 3, a dialog should appear. Follow it
[08:45] <olimilo> anyone have any idea where i can get the latest version of bcm43xx-fwcutter for amd64? bcm43xx.berlios.de is offline
[08:45] <Graham> Have a look through your xorg.conf file. Were you running the wine app as root?
[08:45] <sylvisj> xorg.conf looks fine. No, wine was not run as root.
[08:45] <Graham> What errors are you getting?
[08:46] <sylvisj> one sec
[08:47] <nvon> i upgraded to 7.4 and now i can't connect to the inet. i can't even talk to my dsl modem. upon login, the network works for a few minutes, and then nothing. any ideas??
[08:48] <wolferine> how can I get another app to release control of my webcam?
[08:48] <feldegast> wolferine you can kill the app....
[08:48] <nvon> no answer : - (  thanks anyways. bye
[08:48] <Graham> nvon:
[08:48] <wolferine> i dont know which is using it
[08:49] <m0rra> i finished installing kubuntu about 20 minutes ago. however, apt-get update fails with error 111 (yes, it is trying to connect to the official mirrors, not localhost or firewall)... i don't have any proxy software installed either, because i just installed it (tried removing them too just in case, but none of them were installed) i disabled ipv6 (yes, i restarted the computer after it). also, apt-get works fine under Debian. any ideas how to fix it?
[08:49] <ubuntu_> how do I mount a HDD from a live cd?
[08:49] <wolferine> i want to reset the webcam
[08:49] <feldegast> nvon are you using dhcp? i'd try disabling that if you are
[08:49] <sylvisj> Graham: envy is cleaning driver install
[08:49] <nvon> i disabled dhcp. still nothing
[08:49] <Graham> Why don't you be specific, you come in and say "my internet's not working" and you're telling us nothing useful.
[08:49] <qsu> my god, it seems that ubuntu/kubuntu feisty has a lot of bugs
[08:49] <feldegast> nvon can you ping localhost/your router?
[08:49] <Graham> Don'y disable DHCP, if you've not got a static IP you need DHCP
[08:50] <ubuntu_> how do I mount a HDD from a live cd?
[08:50] <qsu> with mount ubuntu_
[08:50] <nvon> can ping localhost. router and inet only for the first few minutes. then i can't even ping router
[08:50] <ubuntu_> not working
[08:50] <benbread> hey i'm doing a edgy to feisty upgrade using the upgrade tool, but download has stalled on fetching file 59 - what can i do?
[08:50] <si^> BluesKaj: which one?
[08:51] <feldegast> can you ping local host when you can't ping the router?
[08:51] <Graham> ubuntu_: sudo mkdir /media/hda1
[08:51] <ubuntu_> never had any luck upgrading to another version
[08:51] <voicu> ubuntu_: sudo mount -t ext3/ntfs/etc /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[08:51] <ubuntu_> yes thank you
[08:51] <nvon> yes. can ping localhost always
[08:51] <voicu> note that /media/hda1 has to exist
[08:51] <Graham> ubuntu_: What he said.
[08:51] <si^> MegaVolt: BluesKaj: i tried that setting which arwen said same effect. after KDe is loaded all hangs i can only move mouse
[08:51] <ubuntu_> yeah, thanks
[08:52] <si^> maybe it's conflict soundblaster with radeon? :/
[08:52] <ubuntu_> I nknow what it looks like, but dont know it by heart
[08:52] <ubuntu_> yet
[08:52] <si^> i hear kubuntu start sound and all freeze
[08:52] <nvon> feldegast: yes. can ping localhost always
[08:52] <sylvisj> wait
[08:53] <sylvisj> one second
[08:53] <voicu> ubuntu_: man mount gives you more information. you can get help on any command that way
[08:53] <ubuntu_> oops, also, what is the command to find the address of my hard drive?
[08:53] <sylvisj> Graham: NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidia0 (Input/output error).
[08:53] <ubuntu_> just type in mount?
[08:53] <voicu> ubuntu_: man mount
[08:54] <voicu> man stands for 'manual'
[08:54] <m0rra> or could my ip be banned from a repository? (i'm on an university campus and share this one with at least 500 other people)
[08:54] <Graham> sylvisj: I'm thinking you should take it out and put it back in again.
[08:54] <ubuntu_> oh I thought you were saying     Man, mount is cool.  (slang)
[08:54] <sylvisj> the card?
[08:54] <ubuntu_> I gotcha now
[08:54] <m0rra> and when i tried mplayer's repository, it worked. but ubuntu ones still give me error 111
[08:55] <nvon> bye all
[08:55] <Graham> Yes.
[08:55] <sylvisj> (EE) failed to load module "wfb" (module does not exist, 0)
[08:55] <sylvisj> Card's fine on windows dude
[08:55] <voicu> ubuntu_: you could try 'ls /dev/hd*'. and see what partitions you have
[08:55] <sylvisj> wtf is wfb?
[08:55] <sylvisj> I just noticed it
[08:55] <bobbob1016> anyone have bcm43** working in Feisty with wpa?
[08:55] <wolferine> how can I get another app to release control of my webcam?
[08:55] <beggi> hello
[08:55] <Graham> bobbob1016: No, use ndiswrapper
[08:56] <Graham> sylvisj: I'm thinking that could be your problem.
[08:56] <voicu> ubuntu_: or even better 'ls /dev/hd??'
[08:56] <bobbob1016> Graham: and it works with wpa?
[08:56] <beggi> hello!!!!!!
[08:56] <Graham> But your xorg.conf file into pastebin
[08:56] <Graham> bobbob1016: wpa?
[08:56] <bobbob1016> Graham: wpa security on the wireless
[08:56] <voicu> begii: hello :)
[08:56] <madmike> good morning er... afternoon here in ca
[08:56] <Graham> Yes
[08:56] <voicu> good evening :D
[08:56] <beggi> im kinda new to linux
[08:56] <beggi> hi
[08:57] <Graham> WHAT!??
[08:57] <Lam_> will kubuntu live cd work fine if i burn it to a 4x cd-rw?
[08:57] <ubuntu_> hmmm
[08:57] <Lam_> i understand it'll be slower on load
[08:57] <Graham> Lam_: Bullshit, it'll take ages to burn but it's the read speed that matters.
[08:57] <beggi> funny
[08:57] <benbread> Lam_: I burnt kubuntu to a cd-rw once and it didn't like it very much...
[08:57] <voicu> lam_: if the cd reads it, it will work. the speed should be the same
[08:58] <Graham> beggi: What do you want?
[08:58] <ubuntu_> 4x is only burn speed
[08:58] <Graham> That's what I said!
[08:58] <ubuntu_> the read speed is determind by your drive, however fast it is
[08:59] <voicu> this type of questions will never go away...
[08:59] <ubuntu_> I dont see how it will load any slower
[08:59] <Lam_> oh really. ok i'll give that a try with the cd-rw then. thanks a lot for the input guys
[08:59] <benbread> I've worked out the dist upgrade tool can't connect to some resp's - can i tell it to skip them or look someware else?
[09:00] <tmbg> benbread, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:00] <sylvisj> Graham: http://pastebin.ca/453074
[09:00] <benbread> tmbg: heh - i got that part, i just don't know what the other sources to use are :P
[09:01] <ubuntu_> mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[09:01] <crackhead_25> question: how can one know if one has flash player 9? how does one make sure to get/install flash player 9? (i've tried both the adobe flash player and the mozilla plugin from adept)
[09:02] <benbread> crackhead_25: are you using firefox?
[09:02] <voicu> ubuntu_: if you mount something not in fstab you must put all the details. that is 'mount -t <file system> <device> <directory>'
[09:02] <Graham> sylvisj: Tried reinslalling all the nvidia packages on Adept?
[09:02] <aro> Is the resolution and aspect ratio of the display in the Live CD a reflection of how it's going to look after full installation?
[09:02] <sylvisj> nope
[09:02] <ubuntu_> sorry, newbie here, that was in the clouds
[09:02] <aro> I ask because the Live CD isn't detecting the proper resolutions on my monitor
[09:02] <thcmonkey> kubuntu doesn't seem to allow me to resize my windows partition on install. anything i'm missing?
[09:02] <crackhead_25> firefox, yes
[09:02] <m0rra> so. where do i have to report, that a mirror is down?
[09:02] <crackhead_25> must i alter the self-identify of firefox? is it just not communicating that i have flash 9?
[09:03] <benbread> aro: You should be able to change it through the system settings
[09:03] <crackhead_25> benbread: why do you ask?
[09:03] <aro> benbread: I know, but the proper resolutions are not available there.
[09:03] <Graham> crackhead_25: One must point their browser to about:plugins
[09:03] <benbread> crackhead_25: When you visit a page needing flash plugin it should ask you if you want to install it, that's how i got Flash 9
[09:03] <benbread> aro: What graphics card, and what resolution are you currently in?
[09:04] <aro> benbread: Geforce 7600GT, 1152x864, but it's not allowing me to choose wide resolutions, my monitors aspet ratio is 16:9
[09:05] <benbread> aro: You might need to reconfigure x
[09:05] <aro> benbread: This is a Live CD, do you think after full installation I will have better luck?
[09:05] <adaptr> aro edit xorg.conf and enter the resolutions you want
[09:05] <thcmonkey> when i choose partition #1 and use freed space it tell me no root file system is defined
[09:06] <sylvisj> Graham: doesn't even look like the nvidia module is loading
[09:06] <sylvisj> lsmod | grep nv shows nothing but libata and sata_nv
[09:06] <m0rra> Thanks for no help, everyone. Well, at least I got mine fixed. Good luck to the rest of you, who might not be so lucky... (By the way, some of your mirrors are down.)
[09:06] <Graham> I don't know, my cards shit anyway.
[09:07] <Graham> I don't know much about other cards.
[09:07] <sylvisj> well
[09:07] <sylvisj> the driver module isn't loading
[09:07] <aro> thcmonkey: click the partition, click edit partition, then designate the mount point as /
[09:08] <thcmonkey> will it delete my windows guff though?
[09:08] <benbread> aro: You'll certainly have more luck fixing it
[09:08] <shawn34> can't find the md5sums on ubuntu site? anyone know where they are?
[09:08] <benbread> or at least trying
[09:08] <aro> thcmonkey: as long as you are using a partition that windows does not reside on
[09:08] <Graham> Search google for those modules it said it wasn't loading.
[09:08] <aro> thcmonkey: do you have a separate partition just for linux setup?
[09:09] <snap> there anything like camtasia for linux?
[09:10] <benbread> snap: vncrec?
[09:10] <thcmonkey> nah you see, i thought i could do that on install
[09:10] <aro> thcmonkey: you can make new partitions at install
[09:11] <thcmonkey> but it seems not to allow me becuase windows is using all available space
[09:11] <ubuntu> Kampioenen OLE OLE
[09:11] <aro> thcmonkey: well, yea, you need free space
[09:12] <benbread> thcmonkey: Have you done a defrag on the windows partition?
[09:12] <snap> thanks benbread ill look for it
[09:12] <thcmonkey> benbread: nah
[09:13] <benbread> thcmonkey: I seriously suggest you do - windows file systems generally have data spewed all over the place that might stop you from partitioning
[09:13] <sylvisj> graham, reinstalled nvidia binaries
[09:13] <sylvisj> gonna reboot
[09:13] <sylvisj> something will hopefully automagically fix
[09:13] <Graham> Wait
[09:13] <thcmonkey> cheers dude
[09:13] <Graham> Change your driver to nvidia for the reboot.
[09:13] <sylvisj> I did.
[09:14] <sylvisj> I dont' even f*cking believe this, black screen.
[09:14] <crackhead_25> how do i know which installation path is the correct one for the firefox i have installed? i see a /lib/usr/mozilla, ../firefox, and ../mozilla-firefox.. ??
[09:15] <crackhead_25> sylvisj: try alt + F6 or F7 or F8.. your Xorg may have shutdown, or you may need to switch to another instance
[09:16] <sylvisj> xorg died, went to 1
[09:16] <sylvisj> xorg is dying and I dunno wy
[09:17] <_StefanS_> hmm anyone with fglrx and compiz/beryl working on feisty?
[09:17] <_StefanS_> can't get beryl-manager to work
[09:17] <sylvisj> this makes no sense
[09:18] <sylvisj> the log is fine
[09:18] <sylvisj> hmm
[09:18] <sylvisj> last entry in the xorg log is (II) Initializing extension GLX
[09:18] <sylvisj> literally nothing after
[09:18] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: what driver? nvidia, fglrx, or open stuff?
[09:18] <sylvisj> nvidia
[09:18] <_StefanS_> dmesg ?
[09:19] <_StefanS_> lsmod|grep nvidia ?
[09:19] <_StefanS_> maybe its not loaded correctly
[09:19] <sylvisj> nvidia 6837140 0
[09:19] <sylvisj> agpart 35400 1 nvidia
[09:19] <_StefanS_> hum..
[09:19] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: are you using the restricted drivers ?
[09:20] <sylvisj> [ 16.804000]  nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
[09:20] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: or did you download them yourself?
[09:20] <sylvisj> I'm trying nvidia's binaries
[09:20] <Arwen> wtf, fglrx can't do opengl and xvideo at the same time... now that's really lame
[09:20] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: thats normal
[09:20] <_StefanS_> Arwen: fglrx generally is lame.
[09:20] <_StefanS_> Arwen: would rip it out if I had the possibility
[09:20] <Arwen> _StefanS_, yeah.... I need it to get 3d at acceptable levels though
[09:21] <Arwen> anyway, gonna test for the hibernate bug
[09:21] <Arwen> will return
[09:21] <sylvisj> this is so damn annoying
[09:21] <kalorin> sylvisj: well, the ATI drivers aren't a lot less annoying
[09:21] <si^> aro:
[09:21] <sc0tch> I'm having some strange lockups upon disconencting usb devices from a feisty install on VMWare, is there a "safe" disconnect for usb devices? (like windows "eject" usb)
[09:21] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: you should install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic
[09:21] <kalorin> I've got an nvidia card at work and spent a good while trying to get it to work again
[09:21] <si^> ups
[09:21] <_StefanS_> sc0tch: donno, but I have had no issues with that in the latest vmware 6.0rc1
[09:22] <sylvisj> _StefanS_: , done, what now
[09:23] <widde> blub
[09:23] <aro> Am I allowed to use a USB drive for the root partition?
[09:23] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: nvidia-settings, hmm can anyone help here ?
[09:23] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: cant remember, but you need to prepare X to use that nvidia thing.. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:24] <qsu> stein
[09:24] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: select nvidia in there, but I'm not sure
[09:24] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: btw, you need to reboot first.
[09:25] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: search the ubuntuforums
[09:26] <_StefanS_> aro: I'm not sure it will work as USB AFAIK not enabled until later in the boot
[09:27] <_StefanS_> anyone with a working beryl and fglrx?
[09:27] <sylvisj> beryl, yes, fglrx, fck ATi
[09:29] <sylvisj> holy jesus
[09:29] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: ??
[09:29] <sylvisj> lightning just struck my lawn
[09:29] <sylvisj> and guassed my m onitor
[09:29] <ufuk> hii
[09:29] <sylvisj> and scared me shtless
[09:29] <Last_Hero> has anyone had trouble getting Thunderbird to connect to Hotmail?
[09:30] <sylvisj> lightning gaussed my monitor
[09:30] <sylvisj> hwo many people can say that
[09:30] <Cable86> how do i configure konversation to automatically identify me when i connect?
[09:32] <Last_Hero> !thunderbird
[09:32] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[09:32] <tecie1980> Is it possible to migrate a software RAID5 that's formatted ext3 in which all of the drives are intact to another system? I'd like to upgrade to the latest version of kubuntu but that sometimes requires me to reinstall the OS and I want to make sure I have a recovery plan.
[09:32] <sylvisj> ok
[09:33] <sylvisj> Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-7184, but this X module has the version 1.0-9755. Please make sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version
[09:35] <dettoaltrimenti> is there a standalone equalizer for ubuntu?
[09:38] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: hey you should remove the old driver first
[09:41] <sylvisj> I did >.<
[09:42] <snap> how do i switch between different desktops such as from gnome to KDE.....have both installed
[09:42] <USMarine> snap X session in kdm
[09:42] <blekos> ok, i have a rather silly question, why kcontrol isnt available as a menu but I had to search on the internet and find out that it exists?
[09:42] <aro> What's the best nvidia drivers to use for geforce 7600gt?
[09:42] <snap> youll have to be a lil more elaborate ......dunno what that is but thx
[09:43] <blekos> certain option aren't available on the system settings
[09:43] <USMarine> snap browse the menus while you're in kdm
[09:43] <USMarine> you'll find it
[09:43] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: and you did install of the restricted drivers ?
[09:43] <_StefanS_> snap: K-Menu -> System settings
[09:44] <snap> K-menu?
[09:44] <sylvisj> if you meant that apt-get, yes
[09:44] <USMarine> blekos you can always run kcontrol in a terminal
[09:44] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: that was it, yes.
[09:44] <USMarine> if the shortcut is not avaiable
[09:44] <aro> What's the best nvidia drivers to use for geforce 7600gt?
[09:45] <blekos> i know and I do so, but would be better for newbies to have imediate access to it?
[09:45] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: bottom left
[09:45] <USMarine> blekos the shortcut is created after the installation
[09:45] <_StefanS_> snap: bottom left
[09:45] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: sorry not for you
[09:45] <blekos> sorry but i dont get ur point
[09:46] <snap> i have a desktop button (im still in gnome)
[09:46] <blekos> i have a fresh install of Kubuntu, no shortcut for it in the kMenu
[09:46] <sylvisj> _StefanS_: that gives me the damned failed to load module "wfb" error
[09:46] <Last_Hero> anyone know why the defauly POP3 and IMAP ports would be blocked, stopping me from accessing my e-mail via Thunderbird?
[09:46] <USMarine> system settings
[09:46] <USMarine> could be that too
[09:46] <_StefanS_> snap: err.. preferences ? :)
[09:46] <_sledge_> What's the tool called again that profiles disk activity when operating on batteries?
[09:47] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: hmm oka. Let me find a guide for it. You're on feisty and kde , right ?
[09:47] <USMarine> _sledge_ power manager iirc
[09:47] <DeckardJK> can anyone at all help me with a mouse question?  I'm running kubuntu 7.04.  In system settings changing the mouse acceleration doesn't do much.  The mouse just doesn't move across the screen fast enough for me
[09:47] <sylvisj> yes
[09:47] <snap> Stef: i have stuff to change screen res under prefferences but nothing lets me switch from kde from gnome and back
[09:47] <_StefanS_> DeckardJK: you're using a laptop I imagine ?
[09:48] <DeckardJK> stefan: yep
[09:48] <_StefanS_> DeckardJK: with multiple mouse like devices ? .. synaptic and usb mouse ?
[09:48] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: 2secs
[09:48] <DeckardJK> stefan:  I don't have multiple mice plugged in... I only want to use the touchpad
[09:49] <snap> i did manage to get MT4 working under wine and i got networking working with windows boxes
[09:49] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: do sudo apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic
[09:49] <aro> What's the best nvidia drivers to use for geforce 7600gt?
[09:49] <roguejedix> Erm, could anyone tell me why my DVDs won't mount?
[09:49] <_StefanS_> aro: wont the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-generic do it for you?
[09:49] <snap> but for the life of me i cant find "system settings"
[09:49] <aro> Is that the one named "nv"
[09:49] <_StefanS_> snap: your're in gnome ?
[09:49] <aro> In my xorg.conf
[09:49] <snap> yes setfan
[09:49] <snap> stefan* sorry
[09:50] <sylvisj> _StefanS_: and now?
[09:50] <aro> If so, no, because I cannot choose widescreen resolutions from System Settings
[09:50] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: reboot
[09:50] <melkor> Is there still a 'feisty' specific channel?
[09:50] <_StefanS_> aro: yes
[09:50] <sylvisj> _StefanS_: now?
[09:51] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: yes, to make sure they are not loaded anymore.
[09:51] <snap> when i had suse installed i could flip back and forth to 4 different x windows desktops point and click
[09:51] <sylvisj> I meant what now
[09:51] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: oka, did you reboot?
[09:51] <sylvisj> yes
[09:51] <melkor> I just did the fiesty upgrade on my laptop and now it hangs when booting at 'configureing consol and keymap'
[09:51] <melkor> er my desktop
[09:52] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: : and it didn't complain, or tried to load the nvidia modules anymore, right ?  (dmesg, lsmod|grep nvidia
[09:52] <Jacko2007> I am trying to connect to the internet wirelessly but kubuntu isn't finding any devices
[09:52] <_StefanS_> DeckardJK: is that a synaptics?
[09:52] <sylvisj> nvidia modules not loaded
[09:52] <_StefanS_> DeckardJK: is that a synaptics ? (dmesg|grep -i synaptics)
[09:52] <melkor> any suggestions, I can use a cd to get to the hard drive, but its an edgy cd.
[09:52] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: good. 2 secs.
[09:53] <_StefanS_> DeckardJK: there's a specific tool for tuning the touchpad
[09:53] <DeckardJK> stefan:  not exactly sure
[09:53] <DeckardJK> I ran that command and that didnt' return any results
[09:54] <Jacko2007> StefanS: do you know how to get a my laptop to connect wirelessly when it;s not detecting a netowrk
[09:54] <_StefanS_> sylvisj:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[09:55] <_StefanS_> DeckardJK: oka, what laptop ? Dell ?
[09:55] <DeckardJK> Stefan:  yeah its is a dell 600m
[09:55] <snap> Holy Jumping jesus (thanks for that line sylv) i found it.......it is under system/preferences/preferred applications
[09:56] <_StefanS_> Jacko2007: what wireless card do you have, and did you install the restricted drivers?
[09:56] <Kubuntu_noob> I can't use vi
[09:56] <Kubuntu_noob> driving me crazy
[09:56] <Kubuntu_noob> how do you type a 0 (zero)
[09:56] <Graham> Kubuntu_noob: original name, use nano
[09:56] <_StefanS_> Kubuntu_noob: hehe.. always the case first time you use vi.
[09:56] <snap> oh no wait thats not it
[09:56] <_StefanS_> nano is better
[09:56] <blekos> how is it possible in gnome to be able to set alt+shift to change language and KDE not to accept it?
[09:56] <_StefanS_> for newbies ;)
[09:57] <Kubuntu_noob> case?
[09:57] <_StefanS_> DeckardJK: checking the specs
[09:57] <DeckardJK> stefan:  thanks a lot
[09:57] <WannabeNewbie> I have lost all sound, can anyone help me? I was messing around with the settings on KMIX and then bam! no sound, and I can't seem to get it back.
[09:57] <_StefanS_> DeckardJK: seems like its an Alps Glidepoint
[09:58] <TheCreationist> Is anyone else having a problem with sound in Feisty?  I've tried all the troubleshooting tips I could find and still have no sound...
[09:58] <WannabeNewbie> TheCreationist: I have no sound either
[09:58] <ober0ne> I like how busy this channel always is
[09:58] <_StefanS_> DeckardJK: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Synaptics_Touchpad
[09:58] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: its busy alright
[09:59] <_StefanS_> TheCreationist: what soundcard?
[09:59] <melkor> If I use a cd and 'rescue a broken system' then I get to a root shell on my original hard drive ... what would apt-get do?  Modify my system or ?
[09:59] <TheCreationist> _StefanS_: It's an onboard (Intel ICH5, I believe)
[09:59] <DeckardJK> stefan:  thanks much... I'll read things over and see if I can't tweak things
[09:59] <WannabeNewbie> And I am using Nvidia
[09:59] <TheCreationist> _StefanS_: It is detected properly by aplay and the mixer...
[09:59] <braveheartlionXP> I'm currently on the WinXP computer that I want to instnall ubuntu 7.04 on. I don't want to waste a(nother) CD to burn an ISO to. Is there a way I could somehowe install Ubuntu directly on this computer, without using a CD?
[09:59] <sylvisj> i know this is pretty off topic, but how do I get amarok to play mp3s? :(
[09:59] <_StefanS_> TheCreationist: have you unmuted it in the alsamixer?
[09:59] <ober0ne> so anybody else ever have trouble installing vlc on dapper?
[10:00] <TheCreationist> _StefanS_: Of course :P
[10:00] <_StefanS_> TheCreationist: I myself have forgotten that alot of times ;)
[10:00] <WannabeNewbie> sylvisj: I got it to play mp3 by using synaptic manager, install all drivers
[10:01] <WannabeNewbie> sylvisj: plugins rather
[10:01] <_StefanS_> TheCreationist: does the system settings -> notifications play at all ?
[10:02] <TheCreationist> _StefanS_: I'm actually in Gnome right now, but I've done the "Test Sound" button in KDE without any luck.
[10:02] <WannabeNewbie> StefanS: I am having similar issue, I have absolutely no sound.
[10:02] <_StefanS_> sorry
[10:02] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: did you get nvidia drivers installed yet ?
[10:02] <sylvisj> still working on it
[10:03] <TheCreationist> _StefanS_: It's alright... I haven't seen ANY forum posts or talk in here of anyone figuring it out... but I've seen a LOT of people with the same problem since upgrading to Feisty.
[10:03] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: oka, this might help aswell: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-beryl-with-latest-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu-feisty-fawn.html#more-141
[10:03] <TheCreationist> brb... I can't stand gnome... gonna switch to KDE.
[10:03] <WannabeNewbie> TheCreationist: Mine was working until I messed with Kmix, then nothing. But no matter what I do in kmix now, seems to fix it
[10:04] <TheCreationist> ahh... much better
[10:04] <Kubuntu_noob> Anybody have a ThinkPad 600E?
[10:04] <WannabeNewbie> did you get it to work?
[10:04] <Kubuntu_noob> Or near to it?
[10:04] <_StefanS_> TheCreationist: thats really wierd, I have not had any issues with my two laptops at all. Just for the fun of it, have you tried renaming ~/.kde to see if its some settings thats corrupted ?
[10:04] <_StefanS_> Kubuntu_noob: I guess a T60p is not close enough ;)
[10:05] <Kubuntu_noob> yes would be
[10:05] <_StefanS_> Kubuntu_noob: have a T42 also though..
[10:05] <Kubuntu_noob> I can't get sound to work
[10:05] <WannabeNewbie> is there a command one can put into Konsole that will force the sound driver to default?
[10:05] <_StefanS_> argh.. more sound stuff :)
[10:05] <Kubuntu_noob> You have cs4236 sound chips or whatever?
[10:05] <ober0ne> _StefanS_: I have a non-sound related problem... if you'd like a change ^_^
[10:05] <_StefanS_> WannabeNewbie: just try renaming your .kde directory in your homefolder and login again
[10:06] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: please :)
[10:06] <ober0ne> lol
[10:06] <JagerX> anyone know how to turn the tooltips off?
[10:06] <Kubuntu_noob> My sound doesn't work at all since install kubuntu alternate
[10:06] <_StefanS_> Kubuntu_noob: nope ICH7..
[10:06] <Kubuntu_noob> soundchips?
[10:06] <Kubuntu_noob> ICH7 ?
[10:06] <ober0ne> can't seem to install any packages... my system is afraid I will break it
[10:06] <TheCreationist> _StefanS_: I doubt it's a ~/.kde issue... it doesn't work in gnome either.
[10:06] <ober0ne> bloody paranoid, it seems
[10:06] <_StefanS_> TheCreationist: oh, I wasn't aware of that.
[10:06] <TheCreationist> ober0ne: lol... what does it tell you?
[10:06] <WannabeNewbie> StefanS: That is beyond my ability, I'm fairly new to this and obviously have made a simple mistake into more than it should be...LOL!
[10:07] <ober0ne> ermm... hold on - I will check it out
[10:07] <Kubuntu_noob> bummer
[10:07] <_StefanS_> argh :)
[10:07] <WannabeNewbie> LMAO! Your right
[10:07] <_StefanS_> Atleast I try :)
[10:07] <WannabeNewbie> That you have
[10:07] <TheCreationist> _StefanS_: Thanks for trying, at least ;)
[10:08] <melkor> ls
[10:08] <tmbg> ok this is getting seriously annoying. on feisty all of the network applications time out. I've rebooted this machine, the router, etc. everything can resolve, but it times out after that.
[10:08] <tmbg> the only sites I can get to are ones that I've been to before that are bookmarked like google.
[10:08] <_StefanS_> Well I actually managed to get sound working on a EPIA EX board in feisty... thats some achievement
[10:08] <ober0ne> _StefanS_: "There was an error committing changes. It's possible that  there was an error downloading some of the packages, or  that the commit would break other packages"
[10:08] <ober0ne> I'm on dapper, btw
[10:09] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: ok you could fix that probably doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[10:09] <ober0ne> will try
[10:09] <WannabeNewbie> Trying it now
[10:09] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: then it should continue, and you can check the logfile in /var/log/dpkg
[10:10] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: I always avoid adept for that reason .. it doesn't really give a whole lot of information :)
[10:10] <ober0ne> do I want to allow system wide readable home directories?
[10:10] <WannabeNewbie> yes
[10:11] <TheCreationist> Hey... will deleting entried from the K menu also remove them from the menus in gnome?
[10:11] <WannabeNewbie> upto you really
[10:11] <maki> when i try to upgrade it give's me this The following packages have been kept back:amarok amarok-xine k3b kaffeine libavcodec0d skype
[10:11] <_StefanS_> TheCreationist: dont know.
[10:11] <_StefanS_> maki: you're missing a dependency package
[10:11] <ober0ne> see, mainly I want VLC... but it gives me that error message when I try to install anything
[10:12] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: did you do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade first ?
[10:12] <ober0ne> I don't remember... I know I have done that in the last few days, but I've also done a fresh install
[10:12] <_StefanS_> maki: try install one at a time to see which one is wrong
[10:13] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: doesn't hurt to do it again.
[10:13] <ober0ne> ok
[10:13] <maki> i make dist-upgrade now
[10:13] <_StefanS_> maki: ah, and you added some more repositories ?
[10:14] <maki> yes
[10:14] <_StefanS_> maki: oka you should use medibuntu, did you add that ?
[10:14] <maki> i have the repos from the wiki
[10:14] <ubuntu_> mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:14] <maki> and i add 3 repos from a local server
[10:14] <ubuntu_> what am I doing wrong?
[10:15] <ubuntu_> I am trying to access my HDD via live cd
[10:15] <sylvisj> ok
[10:15] <sylvisj> I found the issue
[10:15] <sylvisj> it's trying to use legacy drivers
[10:15] <sylvisj> How do I purge all apt files?
[10:15] <Lars_G> hello ALL
[10:15] <sylvisj> all things downloaded by apt anyway
[10:15] <Lars_G> hehehe :(
[10:16] <Lam_> what package do i need to make deb files from source files?
[10:16] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: sudo apt-get autoremove
[10:16] <Kubuntu_noob> can any help with basic script to run at startup
[10:16] <Lars_G> Anyhow, I'm trying to get the kubuntu dvd iso with bittorrent (feisty love) but every time it finishes (I use ktorrent) I manually run a "check data integrity" and it always finds from 400 to 600 incorrect blocks and starts redownloading
[10:16] <Lars_G> is someone feeding broken blocks into the stream, or what
[10:17] <Kubuntu_noob> i got started in /.kde/Autostart chmod +x
[10:17] <Kubuntu_noob> but it doesn't do what in the file
[10:17] <ubuntu_> mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:17] <Lars_G> And please what's the md5 on the i386 kubuntu feisty dvd iso? so I can double check
[10:17] <ubuntu_> I am trying to access my HDD via live cd
[10:17] <ubuntu_> what am I doing wrong?
[10:17] <Lars_G> ubuntu_: if it's a primary master, try hda1 not hdb1
[10:17] <ober0ne> _StefanS_: sudo update thing output: E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:18] <Lars_G> ubotu: if the hdd is there, try with sudo.
[10:18] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: ah that might be some of the trouble
[10:18] <Lars_G> GAH
[10:18] <ubuntu_> still no go
[10:18] <ubuntu_> ok
[10:18] <ober0ne> so what can I do?
[10:18] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: just remove the country in front of the repos in the sources.list
[10:18] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: might help
[10:18] <ubuntu_> still nothing
[10:19] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: dmesg|grep hd
[10:19] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: dmesg|grep sd
[10:19] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: that should reveal any available drives
[10:19] <ubuntu_> both commands?
[10:19] <Kubuntu_noob> help
[10:20] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: yes
[10:20] <ubuntu_> wow yea, that get all the info
[10:20] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: see if you can identify the drive there
[10:20] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: might be named sda1 or something
[10:21] <Kubuntu_noob> how do I begin line 2 in a #!/bin/sh script?
[10:21] <ober0ne> ok, trying that
[10:21] <_StefanS_> Kubuntu_noob: shift+a <enter>
[10:21] <_StefanS_> Kubuntu_noob: that will leave you in insert mode
[10:21] <Kubuntu_noob> I mean just <command>
[10:21] <Kubuntu_noob> or does each line begin with something specail
[10:21] <_StefanS_> Kubuntu_noob: esc+i to go into insert mode
[10:22] <Kubuntu_noob> then how do I make my script Columbia.sh run to test it
[10:22] <_StefanS_> Kubuntu_noob: only the first line is like that because it tells the shell what to run
[10:22] <ober0ne> _StefanS_: still the same error
[10:22] <blixter> Hi! I have KDE installed now and i want to install Gnome on it using a Alternate CD. How do i do that?
[10:22] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: do you even have internet access ? :D
[10:23] <Kubuntu_noob> so line 2 might be exactly "iwconfig ath0 mode Managed"
[10:23] <makuseru> !dialup
[10:23] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[10:23] <_StefanS_> blixter: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ? :)
[10:23] <ober0ne> lol, I should... bell told me I downloaded 350GB last month when I was using microsod products
[10:23] <_StefanS_> Kubuntu_noob: yes.
[10:23] <blixter> ok
[10:23] <_StefanS_> Kubuntu_noob: then make it executeable afterwards chmod +x Columbia.sh
[10:23] <Kubuntu_noob> ok how do I get it to run   allready did chmod +x Columbia.sh
[10:24] <makuseru> !kppdialup
[10:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kppdialup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:24] <_StefanS_> Kubuntu_noob: ./Columbia.sh
[10:24] <tmbg> someone msg me if they have the slightest clue how to fix my feisty network woes. thanks.
[10:24] <makuseru> !kpp
[10:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kpp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:24] <_StefanS_> tmbg: what was the issues ?
[10:24] <tmbg> I can't connect to half of the web sites out there.
[10:24] <tmbg> gaim can't connect to yahoo
[10:24] <_StefanS_> tmbg: wrong dns ?
[10:24] <ubuntu_> 67.779353]  hdb: ST3250823A, ATA DISK drive
[10:24] <tmbg> adept updater can't finish the updates, times out.
[10:25] <ubuntu_> isnt that a slave drive?
[10:25] <tmbg> I checked dns, works. and when I resolve from a different machine and then plug in that ip, it still times out.
[10:25] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: yes should be
[10:25] <ubuntu_> I only have one drive installed
[10:25] <ubuntu_> why is tha?
[10:25] <_StefanS_> tmbg: donno, but you might have put that drive on the secondary controller
[10:25] <_StefanS_> sorry
[10:25] <_StefanS_> ubuntu: donno, but you might have put that drive on the secondary controller
[10:26] <ober0ne> :D
[10:26] <_StefanS_> tmbg: seems like you have local  issue
[10:26] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: already have that ;)
[10:26] <ubuntu_> I'm a newbie, it's not healthy to get this confused
[10:26] <ober0ne> heh... I don't have any coffee yet
[10:26] <ubuntu_> lol
[10:26] <tmbg> the weird bit is when I connect from my router (openbsd sparcstation) everything works fine.
[10:26] <tmbg> the only part that changed was upgrading to feisty
[10:27] <_StefanS_> tmbg: have you tried an open dns of some sort ?
[10:27] <tmbg> tried rebooting feisty, obsd, nothing. still broken.
[10:27] <ubuntu_> feisty still to buggy
[10:27] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: in what respect?
[10:28] <ubuntu_> most people I talk to doesnt reccomend upgrading to it
[10:28] <tmbg> _StefanS_, the dhcpd on the obsd machine passes the same dns it  uses to the clients, the feisty box is using the very same dns server.
[10:28] <Graham> I do.
[10:28] <tmbg> it can resolve IP's no problem.
[10:28] <ubuntu_> really?
[10:28] <oliver_> hello
[10:28] <Graham> Fiesty hasn't given me one problem yet.
[10:28] <tmbg> it times out when I try to connect to servers.
[10:28] <blekos> does anybody know the combination to switch to tty4 etc
[10:28] <ubuntu_> wow, your the first I have heard say that
[10:28] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: gues it depends who you are, and what you need
[10:28] <ubuntu_> yeah, true
[10:28] <Graham> My hardware is old and shit though
[10:28] <tmbg> well I need my damn network to work.
[10:29] <tmbg> and it doesn't
[10:29] <Graham> Type of network?
[10:29] <_StefanS_> Graham: mine is new shit, and still works fine.
[10:29] <ubuntu_> what do you consider old?
[10:29] <_StefanS_> tmbg: are you using some kind of wireless ?
[10:29] <Graham> I consider 6 years old.
[10:29] <oliver_> when I am trying to connect to a wireless network it says Configuring device and then fails what should I do
[10:29] <tmbg> all hard wired.
[10:29] <Graham> In respects to PC hardware.
[10:29] <_StefanS_> tmbg: duplex issue ??
[10:29] <dope> hey buddies
[10:29] <tmbg> xover cable into the sparcstation, out of that into the cable modem.
[10:30] <ubuntu_> ok, no arguement here
[10:30] <tmbg> possibly. how do I c heck duplex? it's not in ifconfig that I can see
[10:30] <_StefanS_> tmbg: just guessing, that usually causes wierd problems
[10:30] <ubuntu_> lol
[10:30] <dope> i got a laptop and 6.10 kubuntu had a hard time with wpa.  ultimately it never worked.  is feisty better with that?
[10:30] <_StefanS_> tmbg: what driver?
[10:30] <ober0ne> *sigh* how did I get the only buggy version of dapper?
[10:30] <tmbg> it's an nforce4 onboard ethernet
[10:30] <Graham> dope: Yes, I recommend you upgrade.
[10:30] <_StefanS_> dope: I use wpa and wpa2 on two laptops, dell and ibm
[10:30] <ubuntu_> I ahve heard that  is leaps and bounds over dapper
[10:30] <_StefanS_> dope: a whole lot of stuff happened to networkmanager in feisty
[10:30] <Graham> Infact WPA didn't give me any problems on Edgy.
[10:30] <ubuntu_> I have dapper and want to leap and bound
[10:31] <_StefanS_> Graham: worked for my too
[10:31] <ober0ne> lol, me too
[10:31] <tmbg> the obsd sparcstation side is connected at full duplex.
[10:31] <dope> Graham: teach me to get it to work plz
[10:31] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: why dont you upgrade that to feisty or something?
[10:31] <dope> Graham: maybe it's just my wireless card crap!
[10:31] <ober0ne> I'm going to, as soon as I get the cd
[10:31] <Graham> Maybe if you told me what it was I could help.
[10:31] <_StefanS_> dope: most wireless cards are crap.
[10:31] <ubuntu_> still need help with my HDD, cant get it mounted
[10:31] <_StefanS_> dope: thats why they're cheap.
[10:31] <tmbg> _StefanS_, forcedeth.c: Reverse Engineered nForce ethernet driver. Version 0.59.
[10:32] <_StefanS_> tmbg: ah ok, try using ethertool
[10:32] <tmbg> ?
[10:32] <_StefanS_> tmbg: or miiconfig
[10:32] <dope> Graham: i got an averatec 2370.  not sure what the card is
[10:32] <dope> Graham: i believe the driver name starts with a rt
[10:32] <dope> :D
[10:33] <Graham> Sorry, that's a failure.
[10:33] <ober0ne> _StefanS_: I tried to download and burn the iso of feisty from dapper, and it doesn't want to
[10:33] <dope> i'm a failure? :O
[10:33] <Graham> Whats it's chip?
[10:33] <dope> that's what she said!
[10:33] <dope> lemme look
[10:33] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: nothing really works in your end I see :D
[10:33] <Graham> Do lspci
[10:33] <dope> i'm in windows right now
[10:33] <ober0ne> that's what it feels like
[10:33] <Graham> Is it a PCI card?
[10:33] <tmbg> _StefanS_, I don't have ethertool or miiconfig. I have mii-diag and mii-tool. do you mean one of these?
[10:33] <dope> it's a rittle raptop
[10:33] <_StefanS_> tmbg: yep that was them
[10:34] <tmbg> don't ask me to download anything or use apt, because it will time out.
[10:34] <_StefanS_> tmbg: seems like mii-tool will do it for the nforce network driver
[10:35] <akIra83> hi
[10:35] <tmbg> sudo mii-tool \ SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not supported \ no MII interfaces found
[10:35] <beau> hi all i just downloaded a new window decoration ok its in archive format..where do i extract it to to make it useable?
[10:35] <ubuntu_> !pastebin
[10:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:36] <enemyz> Im having trouble installing feisty. Im currently using Hoary Hedgehog and tryed to upgrade to feisrty, but I kinda killed the xserver in the process :P,
[10:36] <ubuntu_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17114/
[10:36] <akIra83> i have a notebook with a touchpad, and every 7-8 seconds the mouse is frozen (<1sec) anyone have an idear ?
[10:36] <ubuntu_> somebody tell me what command I need to mount this HDD
[10:36] <beau> mnt
[10:36] <ubuntu_> seeing the link provided above
[10:36] <beau> or mount
[10:37] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: mkdir /tmp/hdb1 && mount /dev/hdb1 /tmp/hdb1
[10:37] <enemyz> anyway, my computer cant read the boot CD I make from the feisty iso. I tryed w differnet CDs. Anyone else having this problem, or is a problem with my burner?
[10:38] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: sudo before that
[10:38] <_StefanS_> tmbg: seems the nforce ethernet driver is not very supported on mii-tool
[10:38] <tmbg> sigh. networking worked fine on edgy.
[10:39] <tmbg> now I can't even get to cnn.com
[10:40] <_StefanS_> tmbg: uhm.. dont know, sorry.
[10:40] <tmbg> but I can to google.com or places i've been before. it's really weird. I can resolve cnn.com, but I can't go there, it times out
[10:40] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: do you already have an installation of linux ?
[10:40] <tmbg> yeah it's an odd problem. incredibly frustrating, odd, problem.
[10:41] <_StefanS_> tmbg: does regular downloads work ?
[10:41] <enemyz> tmbg: can you "dig" the adresses?
[10:41] <dope> yea i've no idea what my wireless card is
[10:42] <enemyz> of the pages that doont load?
[10:42] <tmbg> _StefanS_, huh? enemyz: just a second.
[10:42] <snap> hmm i thought i had switched to kde but it only made the login screen blue and pretty.......then put the old orange gnome desktop over it.......i dont get it
[10:42] <tmbg> enemyz, yes.
[10:42] <enemyz> tmdg: but the browser dont load them?
[10:43] <enemyz> tmdg: try timing the dig..
[10:43] <ober0ne> is there a utility for extracting rar files in Kubuntu?
[10:43] <_StefanS_> ober0ne: unrar ? :)
[10:43] <tmbg> browser times out, gaim times out for yahoo, adept updater times out
[10:43] <ober0ne> well, that's what I want to do... yes... is there a utility?
[10:43] <ubuntu_> _StefanS_: yes I do...  Dapper
[10:43] <tmbg> timing dig? when I type it, it comes back instantly. what do you mean?
[10:44] <Cosmo_> on several games when I start them they are off kilter between my 2 monitors, is there a way I can force them into a window that can be moved betweem the monitors?
[10:44] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: oka and you have a harddrive on usb also ?
[10:45] <ubuntu_> _StefanS_:  no, I am on a live cd trying to access my HDD
[10:45] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: did you try that command I sent you ?
[10:45] <ubuntu_> yes
[10:45] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: yes I know that.
[10:45] <ubuntu_> didnt work
[10:45] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: 'sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /tmp/hdb1' doesn't work ?
[10:46] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: pastebin the results
[10:46] <tmbg> ok, this is really weird. I try to ftp to ftp.freebsd.org to test and get this: ftp> ls \ 550 Data connection must go to same host as control connection. \ ftp: bind: Address already in use
[10:46] <_StefanS_> tmbg: I think you have duplicate ip
[10:46] <_StefanS_> tmbg: but not sure ofcourse
[10:46] <ubuntu_> mount: mount point /tmp/hdb1 does not exist
[10:46] <sylvisj> I've never been so happy to see a 22,000 glxgear score in my life
[10:47] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: good, do: 'sudo mkdir /tmp/hdb1'
[10:47] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: and then the previous command again
[10:47] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: you got it working ? :)
[10:47] <tmbg> there are just the two machines on the network. the obsd router and the feisty desktop
[10:47] <tmbg> router is 10.1 desktop is 10.10
[10:47] <cornelinux> Hello, how can I change the look and feel og the login mask?
[10:47] <_StefanS_> tmbg: netmask <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[10:48] <sylvisj> _StefanS_: Nope, I can get 22,000 glxgears scores from terminal :P Yep, thank you VERY much
[10:48] <ubuntu_> ooo, look like it did something
[10:48] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: no problem
[10:48] <ubuntu_> yes, it worked
[10:48] <ubuntu_> thank you
[10:48] <_StefanS_> cornelinux: there's a thememanager for that
[10:49] <tmbg> yes. netmask on both is /24
[10:49] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: :)
[10:49] <ubuntu_> _StefanS_: that worked, thank you.
[10:49] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: remember to umount /dev/hdb1 before rebooting !
[10:49] <cornelinux> _StefanS_: I tried to change it in kcontrol, but is stays the same
[10:49] <_StefanS_> cornelinux: uhm ok, are you using gdm or kdm ?
[10:49] <_StefanS_> tmbg: freakin' weird I say
[10:50] <tmbg> tell me about it.
[10:50] <_StefanS_> tmbg: whats the firewall on the obsd box?
[10:50] <ubuntu_> would you recommend Feisty over Edgy (other than the knowledge of it being newer)
[10:50] <_StefanS_> tmbg: I have a freebsd with monowall and it works fine
[10:50] <cornelinux> _StefanS_: Using the original kubuntu kdm
[10:50] <tmbg> pf. I verified it's operating correctly.
[10:50] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: yes definitely
[10:50] <tmbg> I haven't changed anything at all on the obsd machine. only change was 'upgrade' to feisty
[10:51] <ubuntu_> hmmmm, even for me that has to have help for little stuff like this mounting crap?
[10:51] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: well normally you would just click next and so on for installation.
[10:51] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: seems more like you were in a rescue-cd mode there
[10:52] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: because that what one would do to access the hd if you have a broken system.
[10:52] <Cosmo_> on several games when I start them they are off kilter between my 2 monitors, is there a way I can force them into a window that can be moved betweem the monitors?
[10:52] <ubuntu_> oh no i can install no problem
[10:52] <sound_fx> I just upgraded to Feisty, and there is this upward scrolling black garbage that appears on my screen. I can still see everything, it is just annoying. Any suggestions?
[10:52] <mazzo> hY ALL
[10:52] <_StefanS_> sound_fx: so the usplash doesnt work for you ?
[10:53] <_StefanS_> sound_fx: append quiet to the kernel boot parameters
[10:53] <ubuntu_> oh never mind, I'll try it
[10:53] <melkor> feisty wont boot up, when I do an apt-get install -f it has a list of problems any suggestions
[10:53] <sylvisj> Beryl mauls my fps
[10:53] <sylvisj> from 22k to 7k in glxgears :(
[10:53] <_StefanS_> sylvisj: beryl is still alpha stuff :D
[10:54] <sound_fx> _StefanS_ do that in grub, right?
[10:54] <sylvisj> I know
[10:54] <sylvisj> but I'm still a beryl addict
[10:54] <_StefanS_> sound_fx: well yep
[10:54] <sound_fx> ok
[10:54] <_StefanS_> sound_fx: but the boot logo should be there default, did you remove it ?
[10:55] <_StefanS_> cornelinux: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDM+Theme+Manager?content=22120
[10:55] <_StefanS_> cornelinux: dont know if that will help
[10:55] <sound_fx> _StefanS_: I have a boot logo, and I boot fine into Kubuntu, just on my screen there is this constant garbage... Looks like flickering black text scrolling up in the middle of my screen.
[10:55] <_StefanS_> cornelinux: I remember using it before where it worked just fine
[10:56] <_StefanS_> sound_fx: ah, well maybe your graphics adapter is not too well supported
[10:56] <_StefanS_> sound_fx: did you install the nvidia/ati drivers?
[10:57] <sound_fx> _StefanS_: I didn't have this problem before upgrading to Feisty.
[10:57] <_StefanS_> sound_fx: well I heard that alot today. Why did you upgrade ? :)
[10:57] <_StefanS_> sound_fx: just kidding.. it should work
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg help?
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> err, did that command help at all?
[10:57] <_StefanS_> sound_fx: you might want to ask in #kubuntu-devel
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo dpkg...
[10:57] <cornelinux> _StefanS_ Well but it is already configurable in KDE. In KControl->System->Login-Manager. It works in a normal KDE i.e. under any distribution. Only kubuntu seems to disable changing the look and feel of the Login Window
[10:58] <apus> whats the kde ftp client
[10:58] <Kyral> apus: Konq has a built in client
[10:58] <_StefanS_> cornelinux: please file a bug on launchpad then
[10:58] <apus> kyral is it as good as filezilla
[10:58] <sound_fx> Admiral_Chicago: I believe I tried that already, it didn't seem to help.
[10:58] <Kyral> apus: I dunno, I never used filezilla
[10:58] <mefisto__> I just upgraded to feisty, and can't keep kicker from crashing. Anybody have any suggestions?
[10:59] <_StefanS_> mefisto__: tried removing kickerrc ?
[10:59] <cornelinux> _StefanS_ I won't do this since I do not want to generate an account to be able to issue a request :(
[10:59] <apus> kyral filezilla is flawless
[10:59] <Kyral> apus: Flawless is in the eye of the user :P
[10:59] <_StefanS_> cornelinux: try to ask in #kubuntu-devel then
[10:59] <mefisto__> _StefanS_: no. Where do I find it?
[11:00] <_StefanS_> mefisto__: ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc
[11:00] <ubuntu_> where is the mozzila folder usualy at? (trying to backup bookmarks)
[11:00] <_StefanS_> mefisto__: if that doesn't work try renaming your ~/.kde directory
[11:00] <Kyral> ubuntu_: ~/.mozilla
[11:00] <Skrot> hi, is adept_manager the only graphical software for package installation in kubuntu feisty?
[11:00] <cornelinux> _StefanS_ OK, thanks
[11:00] <_StefanS_> ubuntu_: locate is your friend
[11:00] <_StefanS_> cornelinux: try Riddell in there
[11:01] <Skrot> nevermind