[00:00] <kiezr> tails
[00:00] <kiezr> oops
[00:01] <notlistening> LVM quesition. I have two drives setup as part of the same pc but the underlying devices allocation is linear. However the PV 's as still filled up equally across the drvices as the physical drvies fill up
[00:01] <afief> Jordan_U: Installation finished, no errors detected
[00:01] <notlistening> any ideas how i set this up?
[00:01] <notlistening> *same pv
[00:02] <kiezr>  sacrelicious, unetbootin forsure then
[00:02] <sacrelicious> kiezr, thanks, trying it now
[00:03] <JFranks> command to reconnect after editing interfaces file?
[00:03] <JFranks> I guess I could reboot?
[00:03] <kiezr>  sacrelicious, wouldnt hurt to make sure all partitions on your USB are wiped.
[00:04] <bill337152> how do you check the the amd video driver type
[00:04] <sacrelicious> kiezr, Beldar booya. Unetbootin worked, awesome. thanks guys!!
[00:04] <rcampbel3> jfranks: ifconfig ?
[00:04] <JFranks> rcampbel3: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[00:05] <afief> Jordan_U: Rebooted, still no grub :(
[00:06] <notlistening> bill337152, lspci | grep AMD
[00:07] <JFranks> have a good weekend peeps
[00:07] <Includes08> Everytime i try to manually assign an ip to ubuntu it accepts it and then it throws itself out of the network
[00:07] <Includes08> any ideas?
[00:09] <kiezr> Includes08, how are you asigning it?
[00:09] <qset> I'm running vbox with ubuntu x86_64, what command would I use to get ia32 libc so I can use gcc -m32?
[00:09] <Includes08> just manually
[00:09] <Includes08> and it should work
[00:10] <Bashing-om> afief: Pops to mind to check !, what drive is set to boot from in Bios ?
[00:11] <Includes08> atleast windows and centos and such work
[00:11] <qset> I did sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[00:11] <qset> to no avail :(
[00:11] <Includes08> but ubuntu doesn't want his ip
[00:11] <Includes08> only auto assign
[00:12] <qset> I was hoping for some apt-get so I wouldn't have to manually figure out which libs I would need to put in usr/lib/
[00:20] <chiefbrain> is it possible to install ubuntu on a 4gb usb stick?
[00:20] <z1haze> yea
[00:20] <chiefbrain> ubuntu 13.10 tells me, i need at least 5,9 gb
[00:20] <chiefbrain> so the installer dont let me install it
[00:21] <z1haze> ive done it with 12.04
[00:21] <chiefbrain> so you jsut installed ubuntu with the installer to a usb drive?
[00:21] <exstasea> chiefbrain: there is a minimal / network installer
[00:22] <chiefbrain> exstasea: i read about that. but the question remains: is 4gb enough to have system with a firefox, thunderbird which can be held up to date?
[00:23] <chiefbrain> exstasea: there is a reason for this 5,9 gb limit
[00:24] <colacola> chiefbrain, yes
[00:24] <colacola> i have 2gb
[00:24] <exstasea> chiefbrain: i was going to say in theory it needs 2.6 gig but stuff like browser cache, saved emaiks etc can grow
[00:24] <chiefbrain> cocoknife: 13.10?
[00:24] <chiefbrain> sry, colacola 13.10.
[00:24] <chiefbrain> ?
[00:24] <colacola> yes
[00:24] <chiefbrain> thx
[00:25] <colacola> and it work fine ok maybe a little lag on youtube
[00:25] <colacola> but that's all
[00:25] <chiefbrain> colacola: depends on the stick propaply
[00:25] <colacola> yeah
[00:25] <exstasea> well usb stick is reasonably cheap now, you'd have to decide if your time is worth the cost of a larger stick
[00:26] <chiefbrain> colacola: i read something about changing tmp to a ramdisk, did you do this?
[00:26] <colacola> chiefbrain, no
[00:26] <colacola> chiefbrain, however i forget to mention something
[00:27] <colacola> i use awesome wm as my window manager
[00:27] <colacola> this is very light
[00:27] <colacola> compared to desktop like gnome and kde
[00:27] <chiefbrain> awesome :)
[00:30] <dog-food> WHAT IS THE UBUNTU 14.04 CHANNEL????
[00:33] <sacrelicious> so unetbootin apparently doesnt work with tails at all, any idea on any other good live usb creator programs?
[00:34] <m1dnight> anyone alive here?
[00:34] <m1dnight> i'm struggling with a bash script
[00:34] <m1dnight> can't get it to work
[00:34] <kiezr> Only the dead live here
[00:34] <m1dnight> well
[00:34] <m1dnight> i heard they write a mean bash script
[00:34] <m1dnight> so i'm in luck ;p
[00:34] <rww> sacrelicious: which operating system are you creating the USB on?
[00:34] <kiezr> Thats true
[00:35] <kiezr> Zobie++
[00:35] <m1dnight> anyway
[00:35] <m1dnight> this is the one: http://pastebin.com/puFBb8Gx
[00:35] <m1dnight> It executes the outer for loop only once
[00:35] <rww> sacrelicious: (also, this isn't the TAILS support channel, #tails on OFTC network is)
[00:35] <m1dnight> should I put braces or somthing?
[00:38] <rypervenche> midnight_: Works fine for me.
[00:38] <m1dnight> huh
[00:39] <m1dnight> (sorry for paste)
[00:39] <m1dnight> Executing with 1 cores and 1 users
[00:39] <m1dnight> Executing with 1 cores and 2 users
[00:39] <m1dnight> Executing with 1 cores and 3 users
[00:39] <m1dnight> Executing with 1 cores and 4 users
[00:39] <m1dnight> thats what I get
[00:39] <rypervenche> midnight_: Ah, sorry I misread.
[00:39] <trism> m1dnight: you never reset USERS so that's all you will get
[00:39] <m1dnight> RIIIIIGHT :)
[00:39] <m1dnight> haha obvious mistake
[00:40] <m1dnight> thanks though guys
[00:40] <Izaya> good evening
[00:40] <Izaya> anyone know of any Linux multi-desktop support apps for a gnubie?
[00:40] <rypervenche> m1dnight: It does work.
[00:41] <rypervenche> m1dnight: Ah, he beat me to it. YOu've got it.
[00:42] <m1dnight> yeah idd :) i pulled into the scope of theforloop, no reset needed ^
[00:42] <m1dnight> thanks a bunch guys
[00:42] <Izaya> Anyone?
[00:43] <m1dnight> I don't really understand what you mean (nor am I an expert)
[00:43] <Izaya> well, for example
[00:43] <Izaya> in Windows there is software called "Desktops"
[00:43] <Izaya> you can hit like alt 1, 2, 3, 4 and view different desktops
[00:43] <m1dnight> aaaah
[00:43] <Izaya> I've heard it referred to as "tiles" in Linux
[00:43] <m1dnight> isn't that default in most distro's?
[00:43] <m1dnight> what distro are you using?
[00:43] <Izaya> it probably is, but I don't know how to access it
[00:44] <Izaya> Ubuntu 13.10
[00:44] <m1dnight> i think I found it
[00:44] <m1dnight> go to All Settings > Appearance > Behavior
[00:44] <m1dnight> "enable workspaces"
[00:44] <Izaya> ah
[00:44] <m1dnight> that's the one :)
[00:44] <Izaya> how does one switch between workspaces :-D
[00:44] <m1dnight> let me see
[00:45] <usr13> m1dnight: Yea, and then you get a Workspace Switcher
[00:45] <m1dnight> ctrl+alt+arrows
[00:45] <Izaya> yay
[00:45] <Izaya> is there a way to switch the hotkeys?
[00:45] <m1dnight> hha
[00:45] <m1dnight> :p
[00:45] <m1dnight> let me see
[00:45] <m1dnight> i think I remember
[00:46] <m1dnight> All settings > Keyboard > Shortcuts > Navigation > Switch to workspace N
[00:47] <Izaya> excelent
[00:47] <Izaya> thank you
[00:47] <Izaya> WOW theres alot
[00:47] <Izaya> 12 workspaces huh?
[00:47] <m1dnight> so it appears :p
[00:47] <m1dnight> you have 12 terminals as well
[00:47] <m1dnight> might be a coincidence
[00:48] <m1dnight> if you need more than 12, you're doing something wrong :p
[00:48] <Izaya> lol
[00:48] <Izaya> true enough
[00:48] <Izaya> convenient that I have a Razer Naga mouse
[00:48] <Izaya> odd
[00:48] <Izaya> doing ctrl +1 though doesn't switch the workspace for me
[00:49] <Izaya> hm
[00:49] <Izaya> doesn't seem to be letting me switch
[00:50] <anonymous_Hacker> Hi
[00:50] <anonymous_Hacker> Hello ?
[00:51] <Izaya> HI
[00:51] <anonymous_Hacker> How are you >]?
[00:52] <daftykins> anonymous_Hacker: do you have a support question?
[00:52] <anonymous_Hacker> Any hackers willing to participate in a DDOS atack speak nw
[00:52] <daftykins> lol.
[00:52] <Izaya> lol.
[00:53] <Izaya> okay so switching between workspaces seems to be giving me a hard time
[00:53] <m1dnight> the fact you are asking in #ubuntu tells me you're kinda new to the whole thing :p
[00:53] <Izaya> do I have to be in any particular "state" to do it?
[00:53] <daftykins> anonymous_Hacker: you're not very anonymous coming from that BT broadband connection of yours
[00:53] <m1dnight> no Izaya
[00:53] <m1dnight> do the regular shortcuts work?
[00:53] <Izaya> they don't seem to now for some reason...
[00:53] <m1dnight> hmmm
[00:53] <eliterecon> Can someone help me with installing adobe flash player on ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS?
[00:53] <m1dnight> ugh, i hate that
[00:53] <m1dnight> i just use chromium xD
[00:53] <Izaya> lol
[00:54] <eliterecon> xD
[00:54] <Izaya> it's weird because it worked just a moment ago
[00:54] <Izaya> maybe it's because I'm clicked into a window incorrectly?
[00:55] <Izaya> here we go
[00:55] <m1dnight> Izaya: if you are *sure* the shortcuts are correct
[00:55] <Izaya> enable workspaces
[00:55] <m1dnight> log in and out?
[00:55] <Izaya> lololol
[00:55] <m1dnight> just guessing
[00:55] <daftykins> eliterecon: did you install the installer package?
[00:55] <Izaya> got it to work
[00:55] <Izaya> woot woot
[00:56] <eliterecon> daftykins: what is that?
[00:56] <daftykins> eliterecon: the flash player installer package...
[00:56] <daftykins> !flash | eliterecon
[00:57] <eliterecon> i tried to do the sudo apt-get ubuntu-restricted and it said that it couldn't because another program was possibly using the E: drive currently
[00:57] <Izaya> so I seem to be limited to 4 workspaces
[00:57] <Izaya> I should be able to get more, yes?
[00:58] <TeHHerzog> I have a question about Ubuntu 10.04. The Vino VNC program that comes as the default VNC progam Does it keep track of Logged connections
[00:59] <eliterecon> whenever i try to get something with the ubuntu software center though it says waiting forever although and has above it searching: applying changes
[00:59] <Izaya> odd eliterecon
[01:00] <Izaya> never had that problem mysel;f
[01:00] <Izaya> myself*
[01:00] <eliterecon> so now its doing that when i try to get the ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:02] <Beldar> eliterecon, If you want to exactly what's going on use apt-get
[01:02] <Beldar> see*
[01:04] <eliterecon> this is what i get when i do that E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:04] <Izaya> speaking of software
[01:04] <Izaya> I have a program for Windows called "KeyScrambler" that works with Chrome/Browsers etc
[01:04] <Izaya> I wonder if that exists for Ubuntu
[01:05] <awesomess3> eliterecon, do you have synaptic open?
[01:05] <eliterecon> not that i know of
[01:05] <Beldar> eliterecon, You stopped a upgrade during it causing the var/lib/dpkg/lock
[01:05] <awesomess3> eliterecon, apt-get -f install
[01:05] <eliterecon> ok how do i fix that
[01:05] <awesomess3> eliterecon, maybe try that?
[01:07] <Beldar> eliterecon, http://askubuntu.com/questions/15433/unable-to-lock-the-administration-directory-var-lib-dpkg-is-another-process
[01:11] <eliterecon> beldar: whenever i try to restart my ubuntu it says that the signal has been sent and that the box near it( [OK] ) but then that switches to [FAIL] and it just never restarts the same thing happens with shutdowns
[01:12] <Beldar> eliterecon, Not sure what that has to do with our conversation.
[01:12] <eliterecon> the link u sent me told me to try restarting the computer but i cant do that for some reason
[01:12] <Beldar> eliterecon, severl options including a rm of the locked.
[01:12] <eliterecon> that is probably why it wont run because it might have tried to install updates and then gotten stuck like that
[01:13] <eliterecon> beldar: im going to try and restart ill come back then
[01:14] <OerHeks> !aptlock
[01:14] <eliterecon> or ill try that
[01:16] <eliterecon> now it says dkms: install completed
[01:17] <eliterecon> when I look at the ubuntu software center on the ubuntu-restricted-extras now it says waiting for dpkg to exit
[01:18] <netameta> if i am making a http.request to someplace that wont respond could that case server or 504 error ?
[01:18] <OerHeks> ehm, when you perform this action, you need to have terminal open only, no synaptic or softwarecenter
[01:20] <eliterecon> what is synaptic?
[01:20] <Izaya> any recommendations on reading for command line learning?
[01:22] <ax562> How do I initialize xfce4 or start a xfce4 session in ubuntu 12.04LTS after I have installed xfce4 4.10?
[01:23] <ax562> I installed and rebooted but nothing changed..still running gnome
[01:24] <eliterecon> after running sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » it says DKMS: install completed it just does nothing and when i try to close the terminal it says that a process is still running what do i do about that?
[01:27] <Izaya> Question, how does one tweak the # of available workspaces?
[01:29] <xoexoe> sorry, I was just here, and my problem was solved with deleting partitions. but when I wanted to create new partitions, I have the same problem now, as I had at the beginning (the reason why I deleted the partitions)..the problem is I cant create further partitions under an extended partition.
[01:33] <xoexoe> in short, when I want to create a sub-partition under an extended one, I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7133723/  Jordan_U appears not here now, he'd helped me with some commands earlier, but I am not experienced with these, so I first consulted you again
[01:33] <xoexoe> commands like fdisk or fixparts
[01:38] <daftykins> xoexoe: you're still on this? can you not just nuke the disk?
[01:38] <eliterecon> I cant get a process to end on ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS any help?
[01:38] <daftykins> eliterecon: even with kill -9 ?
[01:38] <eliterecon> hadn't tried that how do i do that one?
[01:40] <beerninja> anyone in here familiar with xorg.conf files?  I wrote a new one for my monitors which ubuntu can't detect the EDID for and this one ubuntu tutorial says to add a virtual subsection to my xorg.conf....not sure where to write it though.  I'm a noob :(
[01:41] <xoexoe> daftykins, I solved it right now. for your question, I'd already nuked it, and the problem recurred while recreating partition. but it recurred another machine, not on the one where I deleted the partitions with the help of Jordan. when I connected the disk to the latter machine again, the problem was not there.
[01:42] <xoexoe> I wonder whatever might be wrong with partition tables of the same disk on different machines,
[01:42] <daftykins> beerninja: 'where' ? as in placement within the file?
[01:43] <beerninja> daftykins: yes I'm not sure if I have to type a new section or if it has to be a subsection etc
[01:43] <beerninja> I'm looking at this tutorial here:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Setting_resolution_changes_in_xorg.conf_--_resolution_lower_than_expected
[01:43] <daftykins> xoexoe: are you using this disk as internal on one but external via some form of adapter on the other?
[01:44] <xoexoe> daftykins, no, I use it as external on both.
[01:44] <daftykins> xoexoe: via some form of USB controller?
[01:44] <beerninja> daftykins: right now my xorg.conf is totally empty except for two sections I wrote about my monitor placement..like "primary" "true" and stuff
[01:45] <xoexoe> daftykins, what is it? :)
[01:45] <daftykins> what's with the EDID issues? is the monitor a little funky or is it using a non-digital interface?
[01:45] <beerninja> non digital.  old CRTs
[01:45] <xoexoe> so I'm probably not using it :)
[01:45] <daftykins> xoexoe: is it a 3.5" HDD in a USB caddy?
[01:46] <eliterecon> i cannot get searching applying changes to end in ubuntu software center
[01:46] <eliterecon> daftykins: do you know how to end that?
[01:46] <OerHeks> bug 1
[01:48] <daftykins> eliterecon: just kill software centre and try again *shrug*
[01:48] <xoexoe> daftykins, it is a 320GB disk. sorry, dont know where to check 3.5" or what USB caddy is.
[01:49] <daftykins> xoexoe: ok, you certainly won't understand my main idea then ;) it's possible the disk is being addressed differently by each, is what i would've said
[01:49] <eliterecon> daftykins: how would u suggest going about killing it?
[01:50] <daftykins> eliterecon: if you want to go the GUI way, run the system monitor or whatever the task manager equivalent is today - or open a terminal and kill its' PID
[01:50] <daftykins> so, the standard ways
[01:51] <xoexoe> daftykins, it seems so. I just thought Jordan's commands earlier have corrected the case for one of the computers, as a result of which partition tables were altered, as the message said
[01:52] <beerninja> I tried typing a "Display" section instead of a subsection in my xorg.conf but then X wouldn't start.  Anyone know where I could add a Virtual command under a "Display" subsection?
[01:53] <eliterecon> tried couldn't find it to kill it
[01:54] <c|oneman> anyone use nomachine w/ sound?
[01:54] <daftykins> beerninja: i'm puzzled, your link clearly shows it underneath screen
[01:54] <daftykins> eliterecon: pastebin 'ps -ef'
[01:55] <beerninja> daftykins: right but in the link I'm not sure what to type in those quotes
[01:55] <beerninja> like it just says "configured monitor" and "configured video device"
[01:56] <eliterecon> http://pastebin.com/ujMnFYxW there it is daftykins
[01:57] <daftykins> beerninja: hmm sorry i don't have enough experience with that approach - is it possible there's a better way though? what card and driver is this with? could the driver be causing additional issues?
[01:58] <beerninja> old radeon 9800XT (aka R360).  radeon open source driver.  No problems with the driver that I am aware of but inxi -Gx reports that the "ati" driver is also installed alongside it which doesn't make any sense to me.
[01:58] <beerninja> Just the missing EDID from my monitors which has me stuck at 1024x768
[01:58] <daftykins> eliterecon: do you know what you were installing at the time?
[01:59] <eliterecon> i think it might have been updates and it was restarting but the restart failed
[01:59] <eliterecon> i had to shut it down manually
[01:59] <daftykins> beerninja: hrmm i could only suggest trying to copy in from templates online if you find anything relevant, but multi-monitor with that could get pretty guessy :(
[02:00] <daftykins> eliterecon: and on booting back up you ran software centre but it's getting stuck?
[02:00] <beerninja> ok thanks for your help though :)
[02:00] <daftykins> no probs
[02:00] <daftykins> back in the day i remember using hardcoded modelines
[02:00] <daftykins> but that'd still need a display/screen section
[02:01] <eliterecon> it wont shut down properly at all now and the software centre when opened always has searching applying changes
[02:02] <eliterecon> daftykins: should i just reinstall ubuntu?
[02:02] <daftykins> pastebin 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[02:02] <daftykins> that might give some clue as to whether it's stuck somewhere
[02:02] <daftykins> although i guess software centre might be locking you out from doing anything software related? D:
[02:03] <eliterecon> http://pastebin.com/GKVndBbb
[02:04] <eliterecon> software centre appears to be locking me out of doing anything with my hdd changing programs and suck
[02:04] <eliterecon> such*
[02:04] <Izaya> if I tried using compizconfig
[02:04] <Izaya> how do I reset to default Unity
[02:04] <Izaya> because it doesn't even give me the ability to move around windows now
[02:05]  * eliterecon wishes that this process was faster xD
[02:10] <Beldar> Izaya, What ubuntu release?
[02:10] <daftykins> eliterecon: still happens if you reboot and don't run software centre first?
[02:11] <eliterecon> yop i think im just going to reinstall ubuntu :/
[02:12] <daftykins> eliterecon: probably wouldn't be hard to work out how to unlock dpkg and then just sort it out
[02:12] <daftykins> eliterecon: guess it depends how customised your current install is
[02:12] <eliterecon> its very new i dont have anything really on it yet
[02:12] <eliterecon> i think ill just wipe it and start a fresh
[02:13] <eliterecon> thx for the help though
[02:16] <thoonai> heyho, I want to set up a traffic tracker which counts the traffic for every IP its communicating with
[02:16] <thoonai> any hints for good tools?
[02:21] <viej> thank you for your help, daftykins!
[02:22] <klone> knock knock
[02:22] <klone> exi
[02:22] <klone> exit
[02:22] <bsmith093> cant eject slot loading dvd drive Inappropriate ioctl for device
[02:23] <xoexoe> thank you for your help, daftykins!
[02:24] <daftykins> D:
[02:28] <thoonai> nevermind, got my idea
[02:28] <texla> There is a program for setting advance setting..forgot the name anyone help
[02:34] <Joel>  what/where does udisks-daemon get started?
[03:00] <EndymionM> Not to sound dumb here, but is this the appropriate room to ask questions about Transmission?
[03:00] <awesomess3> sure
[03:00] <sledge> hey guys.. something is wrong with my muon software updater
[03:01] <daftykins> what's one of those then?
[03:01] <daftykins> EndymionM: no, this is ubuntu support
[03:01] <rww> daftykins: KDE software thing
[03:01] <rayq> EndymionM:  There is #transmission room on freenode
[03:02] <EndymionM> daftykins: Thanks.  That's why I asked - I didn't know if it was just part of the OS.  'Bye!
[03:11] <EndymionM> Oh, since people were here and active a minute ago.  I realized, I have two questions.  1: I saw that on Unity 2d, I can shrink the launcher.  What are the minimum dimensions?  2: I know that there used to be a UNIX equivalent to DOS/Win .bat files.  What's the extension, and do I need to worry about formatting the text file differently?
[03:18] <seednode> EndymionM, it's .sh
[03:18] <seednode> Stands for shell files, and it should be formatted with "#!/bin/bash" on the first line, and one command per line afterwards
[03:19] <Guest33871> How can I keep backup of all software i installed ?
[03:19] <cfhowlett> !backup|Guest33871,
[03:20] <jesoners> DO THEY HAVE A SKYPE COMPATIBLE program for trisquel6
[03:21] <kostkon> jesoners, triquel6? what is that?
[03:21] <cfhowlett> jesoners, not supported here.  ask trisquel for support
[03:21] <Guest33871> IS there latest version of skype?
[03:21] <cfhowlett> !skype
[03:22] <jesoners> ok yhanks. and trisqul is a lunix distr (Liteweight)
[03:27] <melray> issuing sudo mount -t vmhgfs .host:/ /mnt/hgfs fails..even if I add the name of the share in vmware is there something else I might need to install? open-vm-tools is installed
[03:29] <stealth-> hi everyone! I have a RAID array of external USB harddrives on a ubuntu machine, and I believe that MDRAID is incorrectly marking a disk as "failed" because the read timeout is too low for the USB drives to spin back up in time. Does anyone know how to raise this timeout value?
[03:33] <EndymionM> seednode: Thank you.
[03:34] <seednode> If you have indepth questions on bash scripting, I might be able to help; I can't sleep any ways
[03:40] <EndymionM> seednode: Well, aside from the foldering structure being completely nonsensical (I grew up on DOS and my other machines are XP & 7), is the basic concept the same?
[03:41] <seednode> Well, I take offense to your calling the directory structure nonsensical, as I was raised using different *nix variants, but
[03:41] <seednode> The concepts of appending, overwriting, redirecting, and piping are very similar, yes
[03:43] <EndymionM> seednode: Then that's really all I need.  And frankly, I prefer named drives, and the way I've always seen a machine makes sense to me.  A: is floppy1, B: is floppy2, C: is the master HD, D: is either slave or CD, and then outwards from there as you have ports or logical drives.  I really can't make head or tail of the Linux foldering.
[03:44] <seednode> Well, if you want to take it up in pm, I can try to explain the structure and why it was chosen :D
[03:45] <rcampbel3> EndymionM: it goes way back farther than Window's existence. Regardless of wheter you like it, it won. It's the basis for UNIX, Linux, OSX, Andriod.
[03:46] <daftykins> it was a total mystery to me until i discovered any partition can be mounted to any path
[03:46] <daftykins> lol won.
[03:46] <EndymionM> ... Really, it won.  I'd say Windows' market-share percentages disagree.
[03:46] <rcampbel3> true: MSFT has about 20% market share in mobile and dropping.
[03:46] <stealth-> EndymionM: As someone who grew up with Linux systems, I can say when I had to use Windows computers I found the random lettering for drives immensely confusing xD
[03:47] <EndymionM> It's not random at all!
[03:47] <seednode> stealth-, and how about SysWOW64 versus system32 :P
[03:47] <cfhowlett> !ot
[03:48] <rcampbel3> Don't get me started on Windows. It has NO package management system. It just keeps all old cr@p in the OS just in case forever, and if you don't like it... well reinstall.
[03:48] <daftykins> cfhowlett: really, i see you enforce rules more than i see you contribute.
[03:49] <daftykins> but yep the mob are going very Windowsy and that's no good
[03:49] <stealth-> Fair enough. :P
[03:49] <cfhowlett> daftykins, 1.  I don't "enforce" the rules  2. thank you for sharing
[03:49] <daftykins> people - take it to #ubuntu-offtopic if you must gas on about Windows
[03:49] <EndymionM> rcampbel3: That's what the Cleanup utility is for, actually.
[03:49] <daftykins> cfhowlett: it's a free service! :)
[03:51] <pack^> I've never believed in "free".
[03:51] <rcampbel3> Windows sxs folder is an abomination of junk that exists because windows doens't have a sane package, dependency managemeny system like apt
[03:52] <daftykins> pack^: i need about $3.50 then
[03:52] <daftykins> rcampbel3: what. did. we just. say?
[03:52] <daftykins> take it elsewhere please.
[03:52] <pack^> daftykins: You did nothing for me. I don't owe you.
[03:52] <daftykins> it was a joke reference you didn't get :(
[03:52] <daftykins> now you're being all srs bsns
[03:53] <pack^> sorry
[03:53] <daftykins> ho-hum, bed time
[03:54] <seednode> I just mention windows as a joke and channel collapses ;
[03:56] <Guest33871> Is it ok to update ubuntu from 12.04 to 13.10?
[03:57] <cfhowlett> Guest33871, yes.  but consider that 14.04 LTS comes out next month ...
[03:57] <EndymionM> Guest33871: No, of course not.  That's why they released it, to tell you that you, personally, are the only person on Earth who cannot use it :-P
[03:58] <Guest33871> Is it ok if to update from 12.04 to 14.04  ?
[03:58] <cfhowlett> Guest33871, yes.  direct upgrade from LTS to LTS versions
[03:58] <rcampbel3> Guest33871: yes and yes. It's supported to upgrade from LTS to LTS, otherwise, you need to do a lot up upgrades
[03:59] <Guest33871> When will 14.04 LTS release?
[03:59] <rcampbel3> Guest33871: end of April
[04:02] <Guest33871> How to install microsoft office in ubuntu?
[04:02] <cfhowlett> Guest33871, use libreoffice.
[04:03] <rcampbel3> Guest33871: you don't. Use Libreofice... or google docs . Wine can run some versions of Microsoft Office pretty well, but... libreoffice is pretty good now
[04:04] <cfhowlett> rcampbel3, kingsoft office is the China made clone of microsoft office - linux version is available.
[04:04] <Guest33871> how to use xchat? this is first time i don't know
[04:04] <cfhowlett> !xchat|Guest33871,
[04:04] <pack^> I doubt he knows how to add new packages.
[04:05] <numbers> my wifi keeps disconnecting and reconnecting again, im using 12.04 lts, any suggestions?
[04:06] <rcampbel3> numbers: move your laptop away from the microwave ;)
[04:06] <Guest33871> Ubuntu software center is too slow when downloading any software. Is there any better way to download software in fast way?
[04:07] <pack^> try synaptic
[04:07] <numbers> rcampbel3, there is no high frequency radiation nearby
[04:08] <rcampbel3> numbers: actually, my suggestions are: 1) use wifianalyzer on andriod to see if your wireless access pooint should be on channel 1, 6, or 11 based on your local wireless access points, 2 consider upgrading your wireless router to dd-wrt and turn up the power on the transmitter, 3) wired ethernet is always best, 4) make sure your phones and anything else like baby monitors don't interfere
[04:09] <numbers> rcampbel3, actually hold on let me connect to my android hotspot that could be a pretty good idea
[04:10] <dexter_> Hello
[04:11] <llr_> @guest33871 the command line is the fastest way for me
[04:11] <dexter_> 1080p vidoes are getting played in smplayer but i cant seek/forward. if i do so the video is starting from first!..
[04:12] <rcampbel3> dexter_ : could be the container format and how the videos were transcoded - occasionally a nightly build of handbrake produces files for me that don't seek right. Re-rip.
[04:13] <dexter_> but seeking is working in manjaro and windows :/
[04:14] <dexter_> and i cant play those videos in vlc player in ubuntu
[04:14] <rcampbel3> dexter_ then don't use smplayer or file a bug report with a reproducible test case for them
[04:15] <dexter_> okay :/ is there any better player for ubuntu?
[04:15] <cfhowlett> dexter_, try vlcplayer?
[04:18] <dexter_> its not played in vlc player
[04:18] <dexter_> neither in movie player. the video is getting played only in smplayer and  i cant forward though :/
[04:18] <rcampbel3> ? vlc plays everything
[04:19] <JCM83> Ubuntu natively offers "Soundcloud" links. What's the connection between Soundcloud and Ubuntu? Anyone aware of the history behind this?
[04:20] <cfhowlett> JCM83, soundcloud would love to get a native link on every device.  someone made a deal.  nothing suspicious there
[04:21] <JCM83> cfhowlett yes obviously, what I'm saying is, is Soundcloud considered like a supporter of the open source community or something? Do you know?
[04:21] <cfhowlett> JCM83, no idea
[04:21] <rcampbel3> probably more like soundcloud has an open API
[04:22] <JCM83> rcampbel3 what's that mean?
[04:23] <rcampbel3> JCM83 - open API means that anyone who wants to support their app can find the details to write code that uses it. Closed API means... it's all secret and unless you sign an NDA and get permission, you have no clue how to integrate service1 with service2
[04:23] <rcampbel3> so... you'll find support for lots of things with open APIs in opensource
[04:24] <rcampbel3> and very little support for things with closed APIs
[04:24] <JCM83> Nice.
[04:24] <JCM83> Thanks rcampbel3
[04:24] <cfhowlett> !cookie|rcampbel3, great explanation!
[04:26] <chicognu> how to set lsde as default window menager ?
[04:26] <chicognu> lxde
[04:26] <cfhowlett> chicognu, logout.  choose lxde session.  login.  it'll stay at lxde until you change it
[04:27] <chicognu> cfhowlett, will reboot for test
[04:28]  * rcampbel3 just realized my ubuntu system doesn't even HAVE an .xinitrc file anywhere on it anymore - good riddance, I guess.
[04:29] <expwn> Hey guys! I've been trying to get ubuntu on this pc but whenever I boot up my USB I get a loading screen, followed by a black screen. what do?
[04:29] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|expwn,
[04:30] <rcampbel3> expwn - probably a video card / video card driver issue. If you know your way around the commandline, try installing the server version. Otherwise, try a new video card, or a differeny machine
[04:31] <chicognu> works cfhowlett
[04:31] <cfhowlett> chicognu, excellent!
[04:31] <chicognu> but it is not the default window meager
[04:31] <cfhowlett> chicognu, ???
[04:31] <Akayllin> has anyone else had an issue on a laptop where your computer continually suspends itself and then turns back on over and over when your battery gets to the critical point?
[04:32] <cfhowlett> chicognu, logout and login = should stay with lxde
[04:32] <chicognu> cfhowlett, when i reboot, at the login screen, the lxde is pre-selected but not the default
[04:32] <cfhowlett> chicognu, preselected = default
[04:33] <chicognu> hum wait
[04:34] <rcampbel3> have script run your windowmanager with "--replace" as one of the startup jobs.
[04:34] <chicognu> yes it is the default, tks cfhowlett
[04:34] <chicognu> :D
[04:34] <cfhowlett> chicognu, have fun, be safe
[04:35] <chicognu> :D
[04:35] <fontain> HAHAHAHAHA
[04:39] <rcampbel3> who's running 14.04 on their main box?
[04:39] <cfhowlett> !trusty|rcampbel3,
[04:39] <seednode> #ubuntu+1 for support for that
[04:42] <rcampbel3> how about this.. what's the first release of Ubuntu you used? I ran warty warthog :)
[04:46] <archana> Hi. If I use downthemall addon behind a proxy, will downthemall still direct downloads through the proxy and not by my ip? I didn't find proxy preferences in downthemall's preferences
[04:48] <fly1> hello
[04:48] <JCM83> hello
[04:51] <canis_> how to install .exe file in ubuntu?
[04:51] <cfhowlett> canis_, what are you trying to install?
[04:53] <canis_> I am trying to install latest version of skype.
[04:53] <canis_> i have latest version of skype in my computer
[04:53] <cfhowlett> canis_, then use the linux version NOT the windows version
[04:53] <canis_> so i  wanted to install it
[04:53] <EndymionM> canis_: Give up and go back to Windows.
[04:53] <canis_> but it is in .exe file
[04:53] <rcampbel3> canis_ : short answer is: you don't. It's a windows file. Long answer is: if you absolutely have no other choice, install wine, and run exe as "wine file.exe"
[04:53] <canis_> Ubuntu didn't support .exe file
[04:54] <cfhowlett> canis_, go to skype.com   downloads page and get the linux package
[04:54] <pack^> but ubuntu DOES support skype. Just not with the .exe
[04:54] <rcampbel3> canis: Ubuntu runs Linux programs. Would you expect your xbox one to play ps4 games?
[04:55] <EndymionM> rcampbel3: I know a guy who had a modded console like that.
[04:56] <canis_> ok
[04:56] <canis_> i will install it
[04:58] <rcampbel3> canis_ install the linux version of skype - sudo apt-get install skype
[04:59] <canis_> ok thank you for helping me
[04:59] <awesome-o3000> anyone mind helping an xubuntu user the other channel is dead im having a sound issue
[04:59] <rcampbel3> awesome-o3000 - state your issue
[05:00] <awesome-o3000> my sound card does not show up at all, alsamixer wont work and pulse displays a dummycard
[05:01] <rcampbel3> if you boot an ubuntu 13.10 live cd, does sound work?
[05:01] <awesome-o3000> i didnt check i installed off of the flash drive should i reboot onto the drive and see?
[05:01] <canis_> sometimes software i am using get freezes. what do to in that condition?
[05:01] <EndymionM> Could it be a driver issue?
[05:02] <awesome-o3000> well running sudo aplay -l shows no soundcard
[05:02] <cfhowlett> canis_, start a terminal.  run ps -x     look for your app.  run kill -9 app ID number
[05:02] <seednode> canis_, well, you can use xkill or killall [program name], or kill -9
[05:02] <seednode> Or magic sysrq, if you're feeling up to it
[05:04] <awesome-o3000> and running alsamixer as a command turns up saying there is no file or directory when i can physically navigate to it and see it
[05:06] <vexati0n> hey some IP routing help please - if i have a server with 2 nics, both behind 2 different firewalls, with NAT rules exposing ports through each, how do i make sure that internet requests hitting eth0 are responded to by eth0, and not by eth1 ?
[05:06] <rcampbel3> awesome-o3000: dmesg |grep sound
[05:06] <seednode> vexati0n, I'm honestly not sure if that's a question for ##networking or here
[05:07] <awesome-o3000> no output
[05:07] <rcampbel3> vexati0n: do both nics offer a route out to the internet?
[05:07] <vexati0n> rcampbel3: yes
[05:07] <vexati0n> separate public IPs
[05:07] <vexati0n> but it's ignoring traffic on the interface that doesn't have the metric 1 default gw
[05:07] <rcampbel3> awesome-o3000: then you have a problem... there's no sound card detected at boot, or your dmesg file contents got overwritten
[05:07] <vexati0n> (or trying to reply through the wrong gateway)
[05:08] <canis_> ok
[05:08] <awesome-o3000> rcampbel3 is this fixable or am i looking at a redownload and install
[05:08] <canis_> i am one problem when i open facebook it won't load properly
[05:09] <canis_> what can i do?
[05:09] <dupingping> Hi
[05:09] <dupingping> oma is what file format?
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[05:10] <awesome-o3000> rcampbel3 i have already checked bios and dont have the option to disable the soundcard, windows did see the soundcard
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> i cant get my wifi working on a medion akoya netbook with 12.04 chipset ralink rt2790, bios is set to wifi 'last state' led light is on, but wifi icon shows wifi disabled in grey
[05:11] <rcampbel3> awesome-o3000 - find out the name of the soundcard in windows, search to see if it's supported under Linux. Just because something works under windows does not imply that there's a linux device driver for it
[05:12] <awesome-o3000> got yah
[05:13] <rcampbel3> lotuspsychje: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2198018
[05:13] <seednode> lotuspsychje, when you run "lspci | grep Network", what's the model it lists
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> seednode: its a ralink rt2790 wifi chipset
[05:14] <seednode> Is that the model it lists?
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> seednode: same as in rcampbel3 link
[05:15] <seednode> Well then, according to the link, try "sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off"
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> ill try that later
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> rcampbel3: tnx or the interesting link!
[05:16] <akiva-mobile> hey I am trying to compile unity 8, getting this error bzr branch lp:unity8 ~/unity8/trunk
[05:16] <akiva-mobile> err
[05:16] <akiva-mobile> sec
[05:16] <akiva-mobile> CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:64 (message):
[05:16] <akiva-mobile>   Could not determine plugin installation dir.
[05:17] <rcampbel3> akiva-mobile - are you skilled enough to be building unity 8 from source? Do you have all the dependencies? Have you built unity from source before?
[05:17] <akiva-mobile> rcampbel3, I am a programmer, just don't have much experience with cmake
[05:18] <akiva-mobile> rcampbel3, And yes, I have all the dependencies
[05:18] <rcampbel3> akiva-mobile: probably better question fro #ubuntu+1 https://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity8/
[05:18] <akiva-mobile> rcampbel3, worth a shot
[05:18] <akiva-mobile> thanks
[05:24] <iamstupid> join #truthaboutwomen to have an honest discussion about women and we try to figure them out
[05:26] <RandyM> hwre can i get help with Kali Linux
[05:26] <akiva-mobile> #kali ?
[05:26] <akiva-mobile> !kali
[05:26] <akiva-mobile> #kali-linux
[05:27] <akiva-mobile> RandyM, ^
[05:27] <RandyM> sorry if i typoed phone rang
[05:28] <RandyM> i am havin a issue with ICE autholrity.. i have built LFS and im dumb founded
[05:29] <Malayke> anybody there?
[05:29] <RandyM> we are here
[05:30] <Malayke> I have a question, Can I ask you?
[05:30] <RandyM> ask as long as it aint ICE authority pertaining to users
[05:32] <Malayke> yesterday I intall ubuntu 13.10 to my laptop ,and I install some application by apt-get.
[05:32] <basketball> how do i change my dns
[05:33] <Malayke> but this application always start when system startup
[05:33] <RandyM> what app is it
[05:34] <Malayke> How to stop software start-up?
[05:34] <RandyM> edit yer /etc/resolv.conf
[05:35] <RandyM> for your DNS
[05:35] <RandyM> you can change yer dns to whatever
[05:36] <basketball> RandyM,  is it the nameserver
[05:36] <WTS> lo
[05:37] <Malayke> update-rc.d -f ssh remove , Useless
[05:37] <basketball> RandyM,  DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[05:37] <WTS> would this be the place to get some tech support
[05:37] <RandyM> i am havin a fit with ICEauthority
[05:40] <Malayke> RandyM, what should I do to stop software start-up?
[05:40] <WTS> can anyone help me with my problem? my applications menu does not work
[05:41] <RandyM> most software has a setting to not startup at boot time
[05:42] <RandyM> basketball what do you know about ICEauthorty
[05:42] <basketball> not much
[05:42] <Malayke> No matter what software I installed, it will automatically start at boot
[05:42] <RandyM> same here
[05:42] <basketball> !ICEauthority
[05:43] <Malayke> RandyM
[05:43] <RandyM> i created a usr and it says unable to update it.. im like wtf]
[05:43] <jjavaholic> how can I hunt down the program that is causing cpu usage for Xorg to jump to 16%?
[05:43] <RandyM> ive3 ran linux since 98 nvr dealt with it
[05:50] <dupingping> Hey guys
[05:50] <dupingping> How to convert a bitmap to a vector image format.
[05:50] <dupingping> How to convert a bitmap to a vector image format?
[05:52] <j4son> dupingping: I don't have experience there but 2 seconds at google with "linux convert bitmap to vector image" gave me http://autotrace.sourceforge.net/
[05:52] <jakew02> join #android-firehose
[05:53] <dupingping> j4son: thanks ok.
[05:53] <j4son> there is a Ubuntu package for it so intallation should be relatively easy... good luck
[05:53] <jakew02> whoops missed the / ;)
[06:07] <akiva-mobile> Gahhh; is it worth learning cmake to solve this issue?
[06:08] <elky> j4son / dupingping: if you install inkscape, it has a way to use potrace in it with a GUI. i don't know if it is commandline otherwise or not.
[06:08] <akiva-mobile> I don't know whether this code is auto or manually generated, and I have no idea why its bugging
[06:10] <elky> akiva-mobile: have you asked the unity channel like was suggested earlier?
[06:10] <akiva-mobile> elky, in ubuntu +1, and cmakes
[06:10] <akiva-mobile> nothing
[06:10] <rww> there's a unity channel?
[06:11] <akiva-mobile> rww, apparently, #ubuntu-unity
[06:11] <elky> akiva-mobile: but not #ubuntu-unity ?
[06:12] <akiva-mobile> elky, nope; im on it now
[06:12] <elky> i've asked things in there before. the answer might not be instant, but they generally do get to you eventually if you're patient
[06:14] <akiva-mobile> elky, thanks
[06:17] <violetFX> greetings
[06:18] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, hello
[06:18] <violetFX> i just installed ubuntu for the first time. (also my first time interacting with linux)
[06:18] <violetFX> i'm encountering many problems
[06:18] <violetFX> anyone willing to give me some insight into what i can do to resolve some issues?
[06:18] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, sure!
[06:19] <akiva-mobile> what seems to be the issue?
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> whats to command to get latest kernel
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> !ask | violetFX
[06:19] <akiva-mobile> lotuspsychje, in git? From Linus's tree?
[06:20] <violetFX> firstly, i'm having a great deal of trouble using my mouse
[06:20] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, okay; is it slow?
[06:20] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, non responsive?
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> akiva-mobile: terminal command to get latest kernel
[06:20] <akiva-mobile> lotuspsychje, what do you mean by latest kernel?
[06:21] <krishna__> violetFX, shoot ur concerns..
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> akiva-mobile: well many issues got solved by installing a new kernel right
[06:21] <violetFX> the problem with the mouse is that even though the cursor responds to movement, i can't click on anything after a few minutes of booting up.
[06:22] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, very interesting. That is no good. Do you know what distrobution you are running?
[06:22] <akiva-mobile> 12.04, or 13.10?
[06:22] <violetFX> 13.10 (it's the latest right?
[06:23] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, yep!
[06:23] <krishna_> ya
[06:24] <violetFX> along side this mouse issue, i'm experiencing problems with my keyboard too. it's a gamble using [tab] sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.
[06:24] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, hmmmm
[06:25] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, is it just your left mouse button, or your right mouse button as well?
[06:26] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, Because this is a new install, have you updated your packages yet and reinstalled?
[06:26] <akiva-mobile> er not reinstalled
[06:26] <akiva-mobile> restarted*
[06:26] <akiva-mobile> :P
[06:26] <violetFX> right now, the mouse is working again, but when the problem is occurring neither button works
[06:26] <violetFX> i just finished installing the latest autoupdate
[06:27] <violetFX> you're suggesting a reboot?
[06:27] <violetFX> i'll try that now
[06:27] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, okay will be waiting
[06:29] <dhaval2712> popey: Hey
[06:31] <dhaval2712> I have a question, I have a 1.6 Ghz Dual Core w/ 1GB RAM for my DAD. I hav arch installed on it and I'm not sure I want to keep it. Would it be a guide idea to put the 14.04 beta 1 on it?
[06:31] <violetFX> i'm back, and the mouse is still having the same issue.
[06:32] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, okay, I think I may have a solution
[06:32] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, do you know what the terminal is?
[06:32] <tracyone> dhaval2712: just do it
[06:33] <violetFX> for example, when i left click xchat and the initial window opens, i can't select any of the boxes for "nickname" "second nickname" with the mouse, or click "connect" instead i need to use the keyboard to navigate
[06:33] <akiva-mobile> yep
[06:33] <akiva-mobile> okay
[06:33] <violetFX> ctrl+alt+t?
[06:33] <akiva-mobile> yes!
[06:33] <akiva-mobile> very good
[06:33] <akiva-mobile> :)
[06:33] <dhaval2712> tracyone: Can I do it using a 13.04 install by any chance? That's the only iso I have and downloading the 14.04 iso will take time. Can I do something like do-release-upgrade --beta1 or something
[06:33] <jjavaholic> how can I monitor gtk calls to xorg?
[06:33] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, once there, add these 3 lines
[06:33] <akiva-mobile> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:raof/aubergine
[06:33] <akiva-mobile> sudo apt-get update
[06:33] <akiva-mobile> sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:35] <akiva-mobile> I got the solution from here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/400554/ubuntu-13-04-left-click-not-working-after-a-while
[06:35] <jjavaholic> how can I monitor gtk calls?
[06:36] <violetFX> can you explain to me what sudo is?
[06:36] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, Sure! Su do
[06:36] <akiva-mobile> so you can think of it as
[06:36] <akiva-mobile> super user
[06:36] <akiva-mobile> do
[06:36] <rww> violetFX: it's a program that lets you run a program as if you're a different user
[06:36] <akiva-mobile> sudo
[06:36] <akiva-mobile> do as super user.
[06:36] <akiva-mobile> rww,  yes that too :P
[06:37] <dhaval2712> violetFX: Its basically throwing mud in the face of all security precautions ever taken by sysadmins. Super-user do is basically it.  Its there as a safe security practice
[06:38] <akiva-mobile> Windows xp was notorious for viruses, and one of the reasons was because most people ran as administrator
[06:38] <akiva-mobile> ubuntu and other linux distrobutions thus try to minimize that.
[06:38] <dhaval2712> avantgardist: To make sudo safe, you have to have a very good sudoers config. Or else someone can literally do this: sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root and literally delete the system.
[06:39] <dhaval2712> Not kidding. So violetFX, basically be very careful with sudo.
[06:39] <akiva-mobile> ^
[06:39] <rww> well yes, if you give someone full sudo access they can act as an admin, I'm not sure how this is non-obvious
[06:39] <akiva-mobile> I had a client the other day who was playing around with sudo chown, and accidently put a period where it wasnt welcome
[06:39] <violetFX> got it, learn more before experimentation
[06:39] <llutz_> akiva-mobile: generations of unix-users/-admins haven't done daily jobs as root. the "need" for this sudo precaution came, when some guys decided "we have to convert the win-users to this super-secure-OS"
[06:40] <akiva-mobile> and basically set his entire kernel to local user.
[06:40] <dhaval2712> rww Not to go too offtopic but I wasn't saying it wasn't obvious, I was saying it was dangerious.
[06:40] <akiva-mobile> llutz_, Waht? no way. if it was standard, microsoft would have done it fer sure
[06:42] <akiva-mobile> violetFX,  a few tips for the terminal. "ls" lists the directory you are currently in. "cd" allows you to C hange D irectories
[06:42] <llutz_> !cli | violetFX
[06:43] <akiva-mobile> and if you press <Tab> while typing, it autocompletes.
[06:43] <dhaval2712> The arch linux boot is fast but the applications simply aren't fast enough to go through the hassle.
[06:44] <akiva-mobile> dhaval2712, Arch, it does not have unity, does it?
[06:44] <violetFX> ah, now i can use man
[06:44] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, nice!
[06:44] <dhaval2712> avantgardist: Theoretically.
[06:44] <akiva-mobile> errr?
[06:44] <dhaval2712> I feel my question is quite offtopic, what's the Ubuntu offtopic channel?
[06:45] <llutz_> !ot
[06:45] <texla> There is a program similar to system setting but more advanced..Forgot name can anyone help !!!
[06:45] <dhaval2712> Thanks llutz_
[06:45] <akiva-mobile> dhaval2712, One thing Unity has over all the other desktop environments is its HUD; As a programmer, it drastically increases my workflow
[06:45] <violetFX> what's unity? :(
[06:46] <dhaval2712> I can see that happening. For me, it's KDE.
[06:46] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, Good question.
[06:46] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, Linux has many different graphical front ends.
[06:46] <akiva-mobile> these basically determine the look and behaviour of your desktop.
[06:47] <akiva-mobile> For example; Apple has a global menu bar, and a dock at the bottom.
[06:47] <llutz_> !unity | violetFX
[06:49] <violetFX> sorry i don't know what a "shell" or "GNOME" is, i am as new to linux as one can be
[06:49] <akiva-mobile> Windows 7 has the start bar at the bottom, and a basic desktop.
[06:49] <violetFX> but i do understand now that unity is one type of "shell" for "GNOME"
[06:49] <violetFX> so by default the GUI i see now is called unity?
[06:49] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, Yep
[06:49] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, Exactly
[06:50] <violetFX> because i haven't changed anything since installing ubuntu
[06:50] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, Unity was designed with a long term vision as being good for touch devices
[06:50] <violetFX> ok, that's pretty cool i'll be exploring that soon after i gain some command over the command-line
[06:50] <akiva-mobile> it is called unity because it aims to unite a user interface across a desktop, television, tablet, and phone.
[06:51] <violetFX> yes, i remember articles on the ubuntu website regarding  a possible touch phone called "edge"
[06:51] <violetFX> i see that
[06:51] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, great!  In Linux, there are basically 4 main user interfaces,
[06:51] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, oh I have run that; it is amazing. Much better than android.
[06:52] <akiva-mobile> violetFX,  The edges are addicting. Use it for 40 minutes, and you will be trying to swipe the edges in android.
[06:52] <texla> There is a program similar to system setting but more advanced..Forgot name can anyone help !!!
[06:53] <violetFX> i'll be looking into it more when i have some confidence in using linux
[06:53] <akiva-mobile> anyways, beyond unity, You have Gnome which aims for simplicity, you have KDE which aims for customizability, and you have xfce which aims to be great on resources.
[06:53] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, You will have a lot of fun doing it.
[06:53] <llutz_> and you have  over 9000 other different windowmanagers ...
[06:54] <llutz_> well, more or less different
[06:54] <akiva-mobile> llutz_, oh and don't forget the compositors
[06:54] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, you might want to have fun playing around with compiz
[06:55] <violetFX> what's compiz?
[06:55] <akiva-mobile> or kwin if you are on kde
[06:55] <llutz_> kwin is a windowmanager
[06:55] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, it is a compositor which has many plugins.
[06:55] <jjavaholic>  how can I monitor gtk calls to xorg?
[06:55] <akiva-mobile> llutz_, Then what am I thinking of? what gives kde its wobbly windows?
[06:55] <violetFX> so, is this something that i can try installing via command-line?
[06:56] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, so for example, you can make your desktop 3d
[06:56] <llutz_> akiva-mobile: kwin has compositor-features, but basically is/was just the kde default windowmanager
[06:56] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, yah, but you can do it through the software center. Be careful, as it can be unstable
[06:57] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, but go to the software center, and search for compiz config
[06:57] <violetFX> is it possible to open the software center with the command-line?
[06:57] <akiva-mobile> yep
[06:58] <startnix> Hello people!!
[06:58] <akiva-mobile> type software-center
[06:58] <startnix> I am using xfce, but there is a problem, I cannot lock screen, when I click lock screen nothing happens, I did tried, shortcut key, that is Ctrl+L but didn't work tough!!
[06:59] <violetFX> (btw, i'm really loving the linux experience so far, hardware issues aside)
[06:59] <greyhatpython> hi i upgraded to Ubuntu 14.04 development release, Ubuntu automatically locks the screen while using the system, any help?
[06:59] <llutz_> !14.04 | greyhatpython
[07:00] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, great!  While you are in software center, you can install synaptic package manager. it is an older version of software centre (sort of), but it contains many more packages to look at.
[07:00] <greyhatpython> yes i know but everything is working fine except it locks the screen.
[07:00] <llutz_> greyhatpython: ". support in #ubuntu+1
[07:00] <jjavaholic> startnix: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1021725
[07:00] <greyhatpython> thanks!
[07:01] <startnix> jjavaholic, thanks, I will take a look at it.
[07:01] <akiva-mobile> violetFX, when you get synaptic up, you can search for compiz plugins, and you can install some extra plugins that will allow you to do pretty unbelievable things with the desktop.
[07:02] <akiva-mobile> !compiz
[07:03] <violetFX> synaptic-manager is installing now
[07:04] <violetFX> !brb
[07:04] <texla> There is a program similar to system setting but more advanced..Forgot name can anyone help !!!
[07:05] <akiva-mobile> texla, what kind of system settings?
[07:06] <texla> Themes,window focus etc
[07:06] <akiva-mobile> texla, oh why didnt you say so :P
[07:06] <akiva-mobile> texla, try compiz-config
[07:06] <texla> Nope that not it
[07:06] <akiva-mobile> texla, you can set themes and focus in there
[07:07] <texla> Yes you can but that was not the app
[07:08] <akiva-mobile> texla, the only one I remember besides that was for unity, and it wasn't particular stable
[07:08] <akiva-mobile> unity-tweak or something
[07:08] <akiva-mobile> yah thats it. unity tweak
[07:08] <texla> Yes that sounds right
[07:09] <akiva-mobile> cool
[07:11] <texla> akiva-mobile, Nope its not in synaptic
[07:11] <jjavaholic> how can I track my gtk app calls
[07:11] <akiva-mobile> im looking at it right now
[07:11] <akiva-mobile> in software center
[07:11] <akiva-mobile> unity tweak tool
[07:12] <akiva-mobile> jjavaholic, what do you mean, calls? is this telephony?
[07:12] <lickalott> Can someone tell me what the best app/way is to get files and pictures off your Android?  I've been using gMTP but its horribly sluggish
[07:13] <akiva-mobile> lickalott, i'm a classic steak and potatos guy (copy pasta)
[07:13] <Beldar> lickalott, What release of ubuntu?
[07:13] <lickalott> 12.04.04
[07:13] <lickalott> *12.04.4
[07:13] <jjavaholic> software calls to xorg
[07:14] <lickalott> default folder viewer copy and paste works, at best, 50% of the time
[07:14] <akiva-mobile> jjavaholic, hmmmm
[07:14] <Beldar> lickalott, http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/upgrade-to-gvfs-with-mtp-support-in.html
[07:14] <akiva-mobile> jjavaholic, do you know if the xorg file is changed when called?
[07:15] <lickalott> lovelace!!!  thanks
[07:15] <jjavaholic> nope
[07:15] <Beldar> lickalott, MTP mounts in 13.10 automatically.
[07:15] <akiva-mobile> jjavaholic, as in you don't know, or it doesnt change?
[07:15] <jjavaholic> I want to track down what is causing xorg high cpu usage
[07:16] <jjavaholic> I don't know
[07:16] <akiva-mobile> jjavaholic, I don't know how to monitor if a file is read but not changed
[07:17] <akiva-mobile> but I do know how to detect if its changed
[07:17] <akiva-mobile> jjavaholic, I would be interested if you find an answer, but honestly you might want to try with ##linux
[07:17] <akiva-mobile> tend to be more command line gurus there
[07:17] <lickalott> K.  one more then i'll be parting.   I'm running chrome.  Does anyone know off the top of their heads where the browser plugin dir is?  I'm trying to get flashplayer to work on chrome.
[07:18] <akiva-mobile> lickalott, chromium or chrome?
[07:18] <lickalott> chrome
[07:19] <akiva-mobile> mmmm google is as much of my friend in this case, as it is yours
[07:19] <akiva-mobile> you might want to try #google.
[07:21] <lickalott> i'm googling now.  I was just wondering if someone knew.  Thanks
[07:22] <akiva-mobile> lickalott, good luck!
[07:25] <lickalott> I'm restarting chrome now.  *fingers crossed.
[07:37] <vivek_1729> Hi
[07:38] <vivek_1729> I am having trouble configuring touchegg to support multifinger gestures in Ubuntu 13.04
[07:38] <cfhowlett> vivek_1729, 1.  13.04 is end of life = no support
[07:38] <cfhowlett> !touch
[07:39] <raj__> is it a good strategy to set JAVA_HOME & default java to "/usr/lib/jvm/default-java"  symlink & point that symlink to any java installation like oracle java/ opnjdk that was switching between jre versions & upgrading to newer versions would be very easier, no ?
[07:39] <vivek_1729> Ok, but in general
[07:39] <vivek_1729> do you have any idea if synaptics touchpads have been configured for multi touch support in recent versions
[07:40] <vivek_1729> i will gladly upgrade to 13.10 or 14.04 if need be
[07:40] <akiva-mobile> vivek_1729, I am an ignoramus, but I gather that mir should definitely have this.
[07:40] <js_doode> hello. planning to upgrade at some point. but for the moment, when i sudo apt-get install, all my repository links are obviously broken. running 10.04
[07:41] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, wow that is old
[07:41] <js_doode> ^ can i re-direct them somehow to a functioning repository still supporting 10.04?
[07:41] <js_doode> i just need to add php5-cli to terminal.
[07:41] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, built it from source maybe?
[07:42] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: yeah. its an old box i just fired up.
[07:42] <vivek_1729> Besides touchegg though, do you know of any programs that might do the trick?
[07:42] <vivek_1729> I am just willing to give them a try
[07:42] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: having to upgrade means i have to backup and i dont want to do that just yet. :)
[07:42] <vivek_1729> before upgrading
[07:42] <cfhowlett> vivek_1729, mir isn't going to come out before 14.10 ...
[07:43] <akiva-mobile> cfhowlett, you can test it though :P
[07:43] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, how much do you have to upgrade?
[07:44] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, will ubuntu-one not be enough room?
[07:44] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: yeah, but i just don't want to do it right now.
[07:44] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: time is not on my side. as i have to get a project done.
[07:45] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, is this the desktop version?
[07:45] <akiva-mobile> okay got it
[07:45] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: yes. desktop
[07:45] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, okay its end of support.   Works like a phillipino hooker
[07:50] <cfhowlett> !language|lickalott,
[07:51] <lickalott> and just in case someone else asks.  He's how to get flash working properly in chrome (for 12.04 at least) - http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/upgrade-to-gvfs-with-mtp-support-in.html
[07:51] <lickalott> sry cfhowlett
[07:51] <js_doode> llutz_: thank you. i will. where do you go for your latest hardware compatiblity list for lates LTS of ubuntu?
[07:51] <akiva-mobile> lickalott, wow, you should see if askubuntu.com has that question
[07:51] <cfhowlett> !hardware|js_doode,
[07:51] <akiva-mobile> lickalott, so you can answer it there, and get some precious rep
[07:52] <llutz_> !hardware
[07:52] <js_doode> thx
[07:52] <llutz_> grrr too late, sry laggy 3g connection
[07:52] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, usually not necessary.
[07:53] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: what's not necessary?
[07:53] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, oh hardware compatability, not sure if you have been in the linux ecosystem
[07:53] <akiva-mobile> but its usually only new obscure hardware that needs support.
[07:54] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, i mean, this isnt a solaris system is it?
[07:55] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: no its not. its an older hp tower.
[07:55] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, should be fine; can't imagine any linux distro having trouble with it. Any idea of the specS?
[07:55] <js_doode> llutz_: yeah. i'm just gonna backup and do a clean install.
[07:56] <akiva-mobile> like my laptop from 2006 runs ubuntu as seemless as my 2013 laptop.
[07:56] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: intel celeron d cpu
[07:56] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: dunno how much ram.
[07:56] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: how can i check in terminal?
[07:56] <akiva-mobile> good question :P
[07:56] <llutz_> js_doode: free -m
[07:56] <cfhowlett> js_doode, strongly suggest you see lubuntu or xubuntu.  the first is optimized for older/slower tech - 2nd does a pretty decent job as well.
[07:57] <akiva-mobile> ^
[07:57] <js_doode> cfhowlett: k thx. will do
[07:57] <akiva-mobile> but even so, unity works great with just 2 gigs of ram
[07:58] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: total shows 488
[07:58] <akiva-mobile> o_O
[07:58] <akiva-mobile> can you upgrade?
[07:59] <akiva-mobile> but in that case, xubuntu and lubuntu are excellent suggestions
[07:59] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: not right now. don't have any ram sticks lying around.
[07:59] <akiva-mobile> but it does have free slots
[07:59] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: which is better xubuntu or lubuntu?
[07:59] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: haven't checked.
[08:00] <akiva-mobile> xubuntu imo,
[08:00] <akiva-mobile> it uses xfce
[08:00] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: so i should be able to sudo apt-get to my hearts content just as if i were in ubuntu?
[08:00] <akiva-mobile> should be able to
[08:01] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: k. gonna download it
[08:02] <akiva-mobile> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2088220
[08:02] <akiva-mobile> i heard that xfce has something equal to the hud in unity
[08:02] <helmut_> hi
[08:04] <akiva-mobile> helmut_, hello
[08:04] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: ^ really?
[08:06] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, someone was telling me. Couldnt name it off hand though. It just makes using menu commands a breeze
[08:08] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: ^ so you don't know what it's called?
[08:08] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, nah. If I were you, I'd just splerge 50 dollars, and buy a better desktop
[08:08] <akiva-mobile> and put that one on... idle server mode
[08:09] <akiva-mobile> I appreciate what xfce and lubuntu do, along with puppy, dsl, etc
[08:09] <akiva-mobile> but unity is just really decent to use
[08:11] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: ^ i do plan on upgrading this summer.
[08:12] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, mmm have fun :)
[08:12] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: where'd you get your desktop?
[08:12] <akiva-mobile> js_doode, I am a huge fan of thinkpads.
[08:12] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: sweet. which one do you own?
[08:13] <akiva-mobile> x230. Best keyboards, great durability, 20 hour battery life, perfect business aesthetic
[08:13] <akiva-mobile> and trackpoint
[08:13] <js_doode> akiva-mobile: how old is it?
[08:13] <karstenk77> hello
[08:13] <akiva-mobile> x230 is 2013; i got mine 5 months ago for $750
[08:14] <cfhowlett> karstenk77, greetings.  what is your ubuntu question?
[08:14] <akiva-mobile> but anyways this is ot, pm me if you want more personal recomendation
[08:14] <karstenk77> i have the problem, that i cannot maximize windows at my second screen, every time when i try to maximize at second screen, all returns to first screen. How can I solve or where I have to search for?
[08:15] <karstenk77> using 12.04 LTS
[08:15] <clue_h> why are kernel release names different than kernel version names
[08:15] <clue_h> wrong room sorry
[08:15] <akiva-mobile> karstenk77, does this help http://askubuntu.com/questions/214441/windows-maximize-in-the-wrong-display
[08:21] <red234324> Anyone aailable to recommend a general email notifier on ubuntu - one that works for different addresses not just gmail, something that pops up "You Got Mail" when something arrives in your inbox ?
[08:22] <aib> something edits/deletes my bash_history so I never see entries older than a week. who/what is this?
[08:24] <llutz_> aib: have you set HISTSIZE / HISTFILESIZE?
[08:24] <aib> llutz: yeah, 16384 for both
[08:24] <aib> never seen history go above 1000-1500 though
[08:25] <akiva-mobile> red234324, thunderbird works for me.
[08:28] <aib> only thing that mentions bash_history in /etc is apparmor, surely that's not deleting my file?
[08:29] <aib> my oldest entries seem to be about a week old
[08:34] <red234324> thanks akiva-mobile, can Thunderbird check webmail too?
[08:34] <llutz_> aib: wc -l ~/.bash_history
[08:34] <akiva-mobile> red234324, webmail? Wah?
[08:35] <aib> llutz_: about 600
[08:35] <akiva-mobile> red234324, you mean like gmail?
[08:35] <red234324> gmail, hotmail, yahoomail etc
[08:35] <akiva-mobile> oh yah, super easy to setup
[08:35] <aib> as I've said, I've never seen it go above 1500
[08:35] <akiva-mobile> red234324, they got the proper settings preconfigured
[08:35] <akiva-mobile> so just a few clicks and you are good
[08:36] <red234324> cool, just what i wanted
[08:36] <aib> llutz_: my uptime is 11 days, can something be deleting history on reboot?
[08:37] <llutz_> aib: just to make sure :)   i couldn't think of any stupid cron-job removing users history
[08:37] <aib> and I grepped /etc just to be sure, no mentions beside apparmor
[08:37] <llutz_> aib: is it cleaned completely or just truncated
[08:38] <aib> llutz_: the oldest command is about a week old, so something must be cleaning it or deleting from the beginning
[08:38] <red234324> I think bleachbit can clean bash history
[08:38] <vires> please how do i register on the freenode network?
[08:38] <Sailor7009> hi everybody
[08:39] <llutz_> !register | vires
[08:39] <aib> I might set up timestamping and pinpoint the deletion date, but that'd take a while. until the next delete, and I'm sure I won't remember to check the history every day
[08:40] <Sailor7009> for the 3rd time i can't install ubuntu on my pc, could anybody help me
[08:40] <llutz_> aib: use incron to watch history-file, write any activity into a log
[08:40] <Sailor7009> ?
[08:40] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, sure!
[08:40] <akiva-mobile> what do you need help with?
[08:40] <akiva-mobile> what kind of pc do you have?
[08:40] <vires1> may i know some of the programming networks that exists on freenode?
[08:40] <llutz_> !alis | vires1
[08:41] <akiva-mobile> vires1, what kind of programming do you want to do?
[08:41] <akiva-mobile> vires1, Are you just learning?
[08:41] <vires1> c programming
[08:41] <llutz_> vires1: /join ##c
[08:41] <aib> I like ##programming
[08:41] <Sailor7009> yes, its a hp amd a4-5000 radeon win8 built-in
[08:42] <akiva-mobile> vires1, if you are just learning, I would go ##learnprogramming
[08:42] <vires1> thank you
[08:42] <akiva-mobile> vires1, #learnprogramming, sorry
[08:42] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: yes, its a hp amd a4-5000 radeon win8 built-in
[08:42] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, ah, so its a rather new machine
[08:42] <Sailor7009> very new
[08:43] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, very nice.
[08:43] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, What version of ubuntu are you trying to install?
[08:43] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: 13.10
[08:43] <Sailor7009> I'm going mad about that
[08:43] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, great. are you trying to dual boot?
[08:44] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: yes
[08:44] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, is windows 8 already installed?
[08:44] <aib> llutz_: "user 'root' is not allowed to use incron" - is there a tutorial for this incrond?
[08:44] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: it already a dualboot shortcut but with error something during boot fail
[08:45] <akiva-mobile> hmmmm,
[08:45] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: built-in win8
[08:45] <akiva-mobile> so windows is already installed?
[08:45] <akiva-mobile> yah I got it...
[08:45] <llutz_> aib: i don't know any right now, but i'm sure there are some howtos in the wiki
[08:45] <Sailor7009> yes came with
[08:45] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, can you boot to an ubuntu live desktop?
[08:46] <vires1> please how did you say i would register
[08:46] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: i didn't get it, live desktop? whats like?
[08:47] <llutz_> !register | vires
[08:47] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, when you install ubuntu
[08:47] <Sailor7009> i got a cd
[08:47] <akiva-mobile> it gives you an option
[08:47] <akiva-mobile> install or try ubuntu
[08:47] <akiva-mobile> click "Try ubuntu"
[08:47] <akiva-mobile> right?
[08:47] <Sailor7009> even though
[08:47] <Sailor7009> i tried it
[08:47] <akiva-mobile> yah? did you get to a desktop?
[08:48] <Sailor7009> of course before i chose install
[08:48] <akiva-mobile> great
[08:48] <Sailor7009> not at all, failing
[08:48] <akiva-mobile> so far so good
[08:48] <llutz_> aib: http://linuxaria.com/article/incron-cron-inotify?lang=en
[08:48] <akiva-mobile> now do you know what error you get when you boot up?
[08:49] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, do you get to a screen that looks like this :http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Z5H5ZrZpFhI/UTOyE3G55CI/AAAAAAAAEmM/XiJDa7ktIC8/s1600/grub2.png
[08:49] <Sailor7009> now, when i restart a pc it came dual boot shortcut, win and ubuntu, but can't load uvuntu
[08:50] <Sailor7009> its very quick, i can't see
[08:50] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, ah okay
[08:50] <akiva-mobile> and it goes to a black screen?
[08:50] <akiva-mobile> or does it reboot?
[08:51] <Sailor7009> black screen when trying to load the cd
[08:51] <Welastevil> Hi everyone!
[08:51] <Welastevil> Good afternoon
[08:51] <Sailor7009> and the cd stops
[08:51] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, its already installed though?
[08:52] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, okay sorry I am a bit confused
[08:52] <Welastevil> so...I have an issue about the manubar in ubuntu.,..that one in upper part of the desk top...\
[08:52] <Welastevil>  is it possible to hide it as we do with the dock?
[08:52] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, have you already installed ubuntu, or are you still trying to boot the cd?
[08:52] <vladimir> Hello, Can someone help me with a error message: "you have only 11.4 MB available in Boot! "
[08:52] <cfhowlett> vladimir, clear out your old kernels
[08:53] <vladimir> how do i do that?
[08:53] <vladimir> i am not familiar with the workings of ubuntu, sorry i am using it since few months now
[08:53] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, if you are not sure, feel free to tell me. I might be using too advanced language for you
[08:53] <Sailor7009> I'm trying, what happen is that when try to load ubuntu its came a black screen and cd just stop
[08:54] <vladimir> how do i clear old kernels?
[08:54] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, so; you have not installed ubuntu yet?
[08:55] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: ok, not yet. but the computer itself create a shortcut for dualboot where come win8 and ubuntu
[08:55] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, where the shortcut? In windows? or when you boot?
[08:55] <cfhowlett> vladimir, open a terminal
[08:56] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: when i boot
[08:56] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, also, is english your first language?
[08:56] <akiva-mobile> okay, does the shortcut look like this? http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Z5H5ZrZpFhI/UTOyE3G55CI/AAAAAAAAEmM/XiJDa7ktIC8/s1600/grub2.png
[08:56] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: not, but i understand
[08:56] <vladimir> cfhowlett: how do i open a terminal
[08:56] <akiva-mobile> vladimir, ctrl + alt + "t"
[08:57] <cfhowlett> vladimir, this ^^^
[08:57] <vladimir> :) tnx
[08:57] <vladimir> ok. done
[08:57] <Welastevil> so? someone whu understand about costumization of ubuntu?
[08:57] <Welastevil>  I wanna hide menubar as I do with the dock
[08:57] <akiva-mobile> Welastevil, uhmmm the global bar?
[08:57] <akiva-mobile> Welastevil, anything is possible, but what you are asking for is pretty advanced.
[08:57] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: let me run over and tell you
[08:58] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009,  sure!
[08:58] <cfhowlett> vladimir, dpkg --list 'linux-image*'
[08:58] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, also, what is your first language? There are ubuntu channels for every language out there.
[08:58] <Seib> I'm running Xubuntu 12.04 on my HP Chromebook 11.  But when I turned it back on after plugging the charger into it, the "OS Verification Is Off" screen came on and I clicked ctrl D like I was supposed to, but the Xubuntu login screen never came up! Instead, it just went straight on to the ChromeOS login screen... D:
[08:58] <cfhowlett> vladimir, that'll give you a list of your installed kernels
[08:58] <vladimir> do i type :   dpkg --list 'linux-image*'
[08:59] <cfhowlett> vladimir, exactly
[08:59] <moah> hello, the latest ubuntu update on 12.04 broke flash on my firefox, what happened??
[08:59] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: Portuguese
[08:59] <akiva-mobile> !portuguese
[08:59] <Seib> I need help. I'm running Xubuntu 12.04 on my HP Chromebook 11.  But when I turned it back on after plugging the charger into it, the "OS Verification Is Off" screen came on and I clicked ctrl D like I was supposed to, but the Xubuntu login screen never came up! Instead, it just went straight on to the ChromeOS login screen... D:
[08:59] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, :)
[09:00] <vladimir> ok i have a lot of kernels
[09:00] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: but i feel fine using english
[09:00] <akiva-mobile> okay; just a thought
[09:00] <Seib> Does anyone here have any knowledge regarding Xubuntu and chromebooks?
[09:00] <Sailor7009> and its better to practise once I'm studying it
[09:00] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, so did it look like the screenshot?
[09:00] <cfhowlett> vladimir, as expected.  you'll want to keep at least the 2 newest ones
[09:00] <llutz_> vladimir: copy and paste the following into your terminal, if you are sure the kernel actual running works fine for you:"dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge"
[09:01] <vladimir> ok. i suppose. how do i get rid of the rest
[09:01] <cfhowlett> vladimir, sudo apt-get remove linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-55.57 will remove that EXACT kernel
[09:01] <Seib> ------------------------------
[09:01] <cfhowlett> vladimir, proceed carefully
[09:01] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: just a moment... changing users
[09:01] <arun_> hello guys can I get or talk with lamont !!!
[09:01] <cfhowlett> !patience|Seib,
[09:01] <Seib> Sorry.
[09:02] <vladimir> ok should i remove the oldest 1 by 1
[09:02] <cfhowlett> Seib, chromebook support might be a good stop for you
[09:02] <squared> Morning, Everyone.
[09:02] <Seib> Their expertise has to do with chromebooks, not xubuntu.
[09:02] <vladimir> by typing : sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.3....
[09:03] <cfhowlett> Seib, but they will know about dual booting that chromebook
[09:03] <Seib> im not dualbooting
[09:03] <cfhowlett> vladimir, right.  and that should be the OLDEST kernel
[09:03] <Seib> I'm running 2 environments on 1 OS.
[09:03] <Seib> I used Crouton.
[09:03] <cfhowlett> Seib, what is the primary OS
[09:03] <arun_> is here lamont?
[09:03] <Seib> ChromeOS.
[09:04] <cfhowlett> arun_, this isn't the social channel ...
[09:04] <vladimir> may i copy - paste here the list of all kernels i see dat are present
[09:04] <squared> Quick question, I'm trying to install ubuntu server 13.10 on to my hp proliant microserver and i can select my language but then on the next screen the keyboard stops working - i have googled around but the only suggestion of changing the port for the usb keyboard doesn't help. Anyone have any other suggestions?
[09:04] <arun_> cfhowlett: sorry but I need to talk with him so
[09:05] <cfhowlett> arun_, well he's definitely not here presently
[09:05] <arun_> cfhowlett: thanks !!!
[09:05] <Welastevil> arun...are you from india right?
[09:05] <vladimir> from           3. 3.8.0-19.30           up to     <IP_ADDRESS>.52         i see i have at least 13 kernels
[09:06] <cfhowlett> vladimir, proceed carefully from older to new and preserve at least the 2 newest
[09:07] <vladimir> ok. i am starting
[09:12] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: it came, try ubuntu, install ubuntu, OEM, and check disk
[09:12] <Sailor7009> i chose try ubuntu
[09:12] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, cool
[09:13] <akiva-mobile> and it went to black?
[09:13] <Sailor7009> then ubuntu theme appear
[09:13] <akiva-mobile> oh good :)
[09:13] <Sailor7009> process and went black
[09:13] <akiva-mobile> is it still black? I want you to try and press, alt + ctrl + "F1"
[09:14] <Alkano> wenos días
[09:15] <Sailor7009> during the process: starting ... OK, starting ... OK, for several features, and one of them .... Fail
[09:15] <Alkano> necesito ayuda porfavor.
[09:16] <Sailor7009> still black
[09:16] <Sailor7009> can i do it right now?
[09:16] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: FYI: its boot from a cd
[09:16] <squared> can anyone help?
[09:16] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, yah I am just thinking... is it a cd or dvd?
[09:16] <Sailor7009> dvd
[09:16] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, if you can, its best to do it from a usb thumb drive
[09:17] <Sailor7009> ctrl +alt+f1, nothing happen
[09:17] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, also when you burn, it is best to do it at the slowest speed
[09:18] <szx> http://pastebin.com/H3W7XiLJ
[09:18] <szx> how do I fix this??
[09:19] <aib> llutz_: it looks like my earliest history entry coincides with my last reboot. In all likelihood, my file isn't surviving reboots
[09:19] <akiva-mobile> szx, what is this?
[09:19] <llutz_> !14.04 | szx
[09:20] <Sailor7009> ok, so put all those files into a usb and reboot?
[09:20] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: right now i take off the dvd, it boot from hdd and came dualboot screen of win8 and ubuntu, i chose win8 because itried many times in this case but without success
[09:21] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009,  hummmmm, see my issue here is that I am having trouble understanding whether you have ubuntu partitioned on your computer or not.
[09:21] <akiva-mobile> Do you know what partitioned means?
[09:22] <llutz_> aib: very odd. entries are written at runtime, so it cannot be missed cachewrites o smth like that.
[09:23] <aib> llutz_: yeah, and my reboots are clean. at the very least I exit all my shells
[09:24] <vladimir> cfhowlett: may i send you a private message?
[09:24] <llutz_> aib: can you reboot the machine for a test?
[09:24] <cfhowlett> vladimir, please
[09:24] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: as i said before, before i tried to install it and disabling secure boot, but i didn't create a partition for it, after errors, afterwards i use try but without success also
[09:25] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, okay
[09:25] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, so this is what your goal is, okay: Download ubuntu to a bootable usb disk
[09:25] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: does it make sense?
[09:25] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, that does, yes thank you
[09:25] <aib> llutz_: I'd rather not. Or at least I'd rather assume it's deleted at startup and set up logging before the reboot
[09:26] <aib> llutz_: can this incron daemon report process ids?
[09:26] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, follow this tutorial here :http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[09:26] <llutz_> aib: i'm not sure
[09:27] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, once you have that done, set your bios to boot from your usb stick, then go ahead and do that.
[09:27] <akiva-mobile> if it still gives you a black screen
[09:28] <akiva-mobile> take your computer model, hp xxxxx, and google "Ubuntu install black screen hp XXXXX 13.10"
[09:28] <akiva-mobile> and if you get nothing, then post your question to askubuntu.com
[09:29] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: ok, I'll try it. afterwards I'll bring to you the results
[09:29] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: thank you, and for your patiente too, very glad
[09:29] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, its 230 am here :P
[09:31] <Sailor7009> are you in USA?
[09:31] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile:
[09:31] <akiva-mobile> Sailor7009, Canada, eh?
[09:31] <akiva-mobile> ;)
[09:32] <akiva-mobile> so give the canadians the nice points. If you really need to get back to me<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:32] <Justus> hi, is it possible to set up ssh to disallow tunneling from external hosts?
[09:32] <llutz_> Justus: man sshd_config "PermitTunnel"
[09:33] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: for sure, i never talk to canadians... I'll e-mail you
[09:34] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: I'm in italy for a year and doing english course and others
[09:34] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: cheers
[09:34] <akiva-mobile> its pretty decent. Good luck with your installation
[09:34] <akiva-mobile> ciao
[09:34] <Welastevil> Hallo
[09:34] <Sailor7009> akiva-mobile: ciao
[09:35] <Welastevil> someone here that understands well about costumization in UBUNTU?
[09:35] <Welastevil>  I wanna hide my menubar as a did with dock
[09:35] <Welastevil> is it possible?
[09:35] <Welastevil> I wanted to do it with my mac but I couldnt
[09:35] <akiva-mobile> Welastevil, huh... once again
[09:35] <Welastevil> sorry
[09:36] <akiva-mobile> Welastevil, anything is possible; how much do you want to try?
[09:36] <Welastevil>  my connection flet down(((
[09:36] <akiva-mobile> okay
[09:36] <akiva-mobile> np
[09:36] <akiva-mobile> but how much do you really want to get into it?
[09:36] <Welastevil> but now I think tht is good
[09:36] <aib> llutz: woah, http://superuser.com/questions/575479/bash-history-truncated-to-500-lines-on-each-login
[09:36] <Welastevil> I just wanna hide the manubar and thats all!
[09:36] <Justus> ok, following problem: ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-i KroWin1.ssh -R <IP_ADDRESS>:81:localhost:8000 <- as I understand it this should setup a remote listener that redirects to my local port 8000, but when I check it in netstat the listener is only on localhost
[09:36] <Welastevil>  as I did with dockkk
[09:37] <Welastevil> I wanna have a 100% cklean descktop
[09:37] <Welastevil> clean*
[09:37] <Welastevil> and thats all
[09:37] <akiva-mobile> Welastevil, ... afaik, there is no clickable way to just do this. But if you want to download the ubuntu SDK
[09:38] <akiva-mobile> and start messing around with the code.
[09:38] <squared> I'm trying to install ubuntu server 13.10 on to my hp proliant microserver and i can select my language but then on the next screen the keyboard stops working - i have googled around but the only suggestion of changing the port for the usb keyboard doesn't help. Anyone have any other suggestions?
[09:40] <Welastevil> ubuntu SDK is an app?
[09:40] <thoonai> hey, any idea how I get traffic by ip into a logfile or pipe it into an application? iptraf does not support tap devices, and iftop has no output
[09:41] <akiva-mobile> squared; onscreen keyboard?
[09:42] <akiva-mobile> its called onboard
[09:42] <akiva-mobile> don't know if its preinstalled with ubuntu server
[09:43] <akiva-mobile> thoonai, uhmmmmm pipe it into what kind of application?
[09:45] <Welastevil> so akiva-mobile, how can I get it? is it an Apps?
[09:45] <Welastevil>  this sdk?
[09:46] <akiva-mobile> Welastevil, yep, search ubuntu sdk
[09:46] <akiva-mobile> or qtcreator
[09:46] <akiva-mobile> same difference basically
[09:46] <Welastevil> Thanks bro!
[09:46] <riverloop> Hello everyone. I'm right now using precise and I want to install linux 3.11. I have installed linux image generic 3.11, but it doesn't seem to work.
[09:46] <akiva-mobile> Welastevil, have you ever programmed before?
[09:47] <thoonai> sorry gtg
[09:47] <riverloop> It is booting into the old version again.
[09:47] <Welastevil> no man.....Im not good in computers...by the way, very bad!
[09:47] <Welastevil> Im trying very hard to learn it...
[09:47] <Welastevil> I will start computer classes next week)))
[09:47] <riverloop> What can be done?
[09:47] <akiva-mobile> Welastevil, that is great. This... will be steep
[09:47] <Welastevil> maximun that I did is a couerse for chuldren, "the hour of code" fro free in internet hahahaha
[09:47] <akiva-mobile> Welastevil, you might want to start with python as a programming language.
[09:48] <akiva-mobile> Qt uses C++, and it is... tough to say the least.
[09:48] <Welastevil> really?
[09:48] <Welastevil> can you sugest me some books to download or sites?
[09:48] <akiva-mobile> Welastevil, oh yah.
[09:48] <Welastevil> thats nice man!
[09:48] <akiva-mobile> Welastevil, my advice would be to go here ##learnpython
[09:50] <riverloop> guys any idea?
[09:51] <cfhowlett> riverloop, run update and dist-upgrade to get the latest packages
[09:51] <riverloop> cfhowlett, thanks.
[09:51] <Welastevil> Im very glade with the help that Im getting here!
[09:51] <Welastevil> Yopur people are nice!!!
[09:52] <i5150pc> hello, How can I fix "Read Error" after installing Ubuntu Server?
[09:52] <cfhowlett> !server|i5150pc,
[09:52] <Welastevil> I also have a mac, but all time in macosx chat, some people moke on me because they know more than me, instead give me help
[09:53] <i5150pc> cfhowlett: Thanks
[09:53] <cfhowlett> i5150pc, you're welcome
[09:53] <cfhowlett> riverloop, you're welcome
[09:55] <newlad> Hello. i need help Configure ProFTPd To Use SFTP Instead of FTP
[09:58] <newlad> Hello. i need help Configure ProFTPd To Use SFTP Instead of FTP
[09:58] <cfhowlett> !patience|newlad,
[09:58] <newlad> i am following this https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-configure-proftpd-to-use-sftp-instead-of-ftp
[09:59] <newlad> I got to Configure Key Based Authentication
[09:59] <newlad> but this command is not working
[09:59] <newlad> sudo ssh-keygen -e -f ~username/.ssh/authorized_keys | sudo tee /etc/proftpd/authorized_keys/username
[10:00] <newlad> i change "username" to "Jamie" but i am getting "Too many arguments"
[10:00] <squared> akiva-mobile: no my usb keyboard ubnutu hasn't installed
[10:00] <akiva-mobile> squared, just in time
[10:00] <akiva-mobile> almost left
[10:00] <akiva-mobile> squared, sorry what was your issue? your keyboard aint working?
[10:01] <akiva-mobile> squared, again, if you need a substitute, see if you have onboard installed, and use that
[10:02] <akiva-mobile> that is a virtual keyboard.
[10:02] <akiva-mobile> good luck
[10:02] <akiva-mobile> later folks
[10:02] <squared> you say installed, but i'm trying to install on a new server
[10:02] <squared> nothing is installed yet
[10:02] <akiva-mobile> squared, but your installer has tools
[10:02] <akiva-mobile> that are installed on the live environment
[10:03] <akiva-mobile> I don't know whether ubuntu-server has onboard
[10:03] <squared> it isn't the live environment, does the server eidition have a live environment
[10:03] <aib> newlad: can you execute the first command?
[10:03] <newlad> aib "sudo mkdir /etc/proftpd/authorized_keys" ?
[10:03] <akiva-mobile> squared, probably not, but I don't think it would be too hard to switch from ubuntu desktop to ubuntu server
[10:04] <squared> akiva-mobile: ok no worries, thanks for your help, i'll let you go
[10:04] <akiva-mobile> i think its just bundled software, but I don't know; they could have altered the kernel somehow
[10:04] <aib> newlad: ssh-keygen -e -f ~username/.ssh/authorized_key
[10:04] <akiva-mobile> squared, thanks for understanding. Good luck bro
[10:05] <newlad> aib "No such file or directory"
[10:05] <aib> newlad: sorry I missed an "s"
[10:06] <newlad> aib "ssh-keygen -e -f ~jamie/.ssh/authorized_keys"
[10:06] <newlad> aib " too many arguments"
[10:07] <newlad> aib when i try creatinga directory "sudo mkdir /etc/proftpd/authorized_keys" i got "file exists" error
[10:07] <bekks> Thats a file, not a directory. Run this: ssh-keygen
[10:07] <aib> newlad: you're trying to create a directory; presumably it already exists from when you did it earlier
[10:08] <bekks> Without any para,eters.
[10:08] <pramiti>  http://pastebin.com/iiBseHQm i am getting this error while installing kdelibs5-dev [11:29] please help
[10:08] <pramiti> i read this is beacuse of conflict between kdelibs5-dev and pkg-kde-tools 0.14.2ubuntu5
[10:08] <pramiti> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs5-dev_4%3a4.12.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.4~ppa1_i386.deb (--unpack):  trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/preparetips', which is also in package pkg-kde-tools 0.14.2ubuntu5
[10:08] <newlad> aib how can i change to make sure it was actually created?
[10:08] <bekks> newlad: Run this: ssh-keygen
[10:09] <pramiti> i removed kdelibs5-dev package and tried to install again.. still same problem
[10:09] <bekks> newlad: without any parameters.
[10:09] <bekks> newlad: Do you know what ssh-keygen -e does?
[10:09] <newlad> bekks i have already have a public and private key i created
[10:10] <bekks> newlad: And now you want do to what exactly using ssh-keygen?
[10:10] <newlad> bekks using puttygeb
[10:10] <aib> bekks: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-configure-proftpd-to-use-sftp-instead-of-ftp
[10:11] <newlad> bekks sorry they one i created was for a new droplet
[10:11] <newlad> bekks the one for the stfp will be different
[10:12] <bekks> newlad: What do you mean by "droplet"? And did you understand that you need to have existing public keys in authorized:keys for "transporting" them to proftpd?
[10:12] <aib> I still don't know why you're getting too many arguments
[10:13] <newlad> bekks and aib i run "ssh-keygen" and it asking for "enter file to save the key"
[10:13] <bekks> newlad: Can you show us a "lsb_release -a" in a pastebin please, along with "dpkg -l | grep openssh"?
[10:13] <bekks> newlad: ssh-keygen generates a new pair of public/private keys.
[10:14] <bekks> newlad: you dont need that if you want to use your puttygen-generated key.
[10:14] <newlad> aib droplets is like a storage for acloud in digitalocean
[10:15] <newlad> bekks i create a key for ssh droplet. I one for sftp will be different i think
[10:15] <aib> newlad: what does "ls -l ~jamie/.ssh/authorized_keys" say?
[10:15] <bekks> newlad: you dont need to create any keys on your server.
[10:15] <bekks> newlad: And pastebin the requested information please.
[10:16] <newlad> bekks i did it for a secure sftp if i am going to use filezilla to  access my cloud server
[10:17] <bekks> newlad: And you dont need to create keys on your server to do so. Can you please pastebin the requested information now?
[10:17] <synthelectrics> hello!
[10:18] <Unrecovered> hi there
[10:19] <newlad> aib i did it "jamie brown/.ssh/authorized_keys" and got "not a directory brown"
[10:19] <newlad> aib "C:\Users\jamie brown\.ssh"
[10:19] <bekks> newlad: I am asking for the last time: can you please pastebin the information requeested?
[10:20] <newlad> bekks which information?
[10:20] <bekks> 0322 111252 < bekks> newlad: Can you show us a "lsb_release -a" in a pastebin please, along with  "dpkg -l | grep openssh"?
[10:20] <Unrecovered> i'm trying to set up iptables-addons module from sources, but module-assistant is failing to find my headers for the current core... and headers is already instlled, and even module-assistant prepare works as it should
[10:21] <bekks> Unrecovered: So can you pastebin the entire output please?
[10:21] <newlad> bekks  No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:    Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS Release:        12.04 Codename:       precise
[10:21] <Unrecovered> ok give me a sec
[10:21] <Unrecovered> it's in russian language thought =)
[10:22] <bekks> !pastebin | newlad
[10:22] <aib> newlad: are you on windows?
[10:22] <newlad> bekks one sec let me create an account
[10:22] <newlad> aib yes
[10:22] <bekks> newlad: you dont need any accounts anywhere to pastebin information.
[10:23] <synthelectrics> as I am new here, one question. If I want to ask something do I just write it here or should I do something else? Thank you!
[10:23] <bekks> newlad: However. I am resting your case, because I waited 10 minutes already for a simple pastebin, and had to ask three times. Good luck.
[10:24] <newlad> bekks http://pastebin.com/WsVWqVYd
[10:24] <Unrecovered> bekks: so which output i need to paste? you see, i'm using russian locale, module-assistant auto-install xtables-addons-source and module-assistant prepare both have output in russian...
[10:24] <pramiti> any help ?
[10:25] <bekks> Unrecovered: You are running a command, which "fails" apparently. Can you pastebin the entire output including the command, please?
[10:25] <pramiti>  http://pastebin.com/iiBseHQm i am getting this error while installing kdelibs5-dev
[10:25] <Unrecovered> bekks: ok...
[10:25] <bekks> Unrecovered: Just run: LOCALE="C" mycommand
[10:28] <synthelectrics> sorry guys. Do I just ask questions here or should I do something else?
[10:29] <aib> newlad: the main problems are that 1) you're on Windows 2) you have a space in your path. you'll need to do some learning and experimenting and figure out how to pass the correct path to the ssh-keygen command's -f parameter
[10:29] <humbag> yes just ask your question synthelectrics
[10:29] <synthelectrics> thank you!
[10:29] <j0lz> synthelectrics, just in here
[10:29] <aib> do something else. (just wondering what they'll do)
[10:29] <cyber37> Hi, i need help with notifyOSD, my osd is very ugly, i have install the configuration tool, but i don't know, why i have a "black border" on my notifications, that is the problem, i want to remove it, how can i do ? i don't see "borders" options in the configuration tool ... look that screen pleaze : http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/727759notif.png
[10:30] <Unrecovered> bekks: http://pastebin.com/5YHRSU1h
[10:30] <Unrecovered> locale command doesnt seem to work thought
[10:30] <newlad> aib thanks i will change my name to  just jamie
[10:30] <Unrecovered> or i'm misspelling something
[10:30] <bekks> Unrecovered: Geez, it was my fault. Use: LANG="C" mycommand
[10:32] <Unrecovered> bekks: oh! that works! =) http://pastebin.com/Vy7MHJ9j
[10:32] <bekks> Unrecovered: there's no error to be seen :)
[10:32] <Unrecovered> i'll give an installation paste in a sec
[10:34] <Unrecovered> damn, i cannot even paste it from there... is screenshot ok? =)
[10:35] <j0lz> cyber37, you could try installing xfce4-notifyd and removing notifyOSD ... if it doesn't work you can always reinstall ur origional
[10:37] <Unrecovered> bekks: the best i could do =\ http://i33.fastpic.ru/big/2014/0322/77/047ee6858ea838b9f5e3b0fdbc147e77.jpg
[10:38] <cyber37> i am watching for replace the original, thanks
[10:39] <bekks> Unrecovered: Which kernels do you have installed?
[10:41] <Unrecovered> bekks: ...cannot remember command to check... can you remind me? =)
[10:42] <bekks> Unrecovered: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[10:42] <newlad1> dib i created a new user on my pc without space called Alex
[10:43] <bekks> newlad: you cant create usernames containing spaces at all.
[10:43] <bekks> newlad: And the Users full name is irrelevant.
[10:43] <Unrecovered> bekks: thanks =) http://pastebin.com/50WKszTw it seems i have multiple...
[10:43] <Unrecovered> i don't really know which is in use =\
[10:44] <bekks> Unrecovered: uname -a
[10:44] <Unrecovered> Linux homeserv 3.8.0-35-generic
[10:44] <newlad> bekks i am logged in in my pc as "Alex" not "jamie brown"
[10:45] <bekks> newlad: you never were logged in as "jamie brown" since thats just the full name and not the username.
[10:45] <bekks> Unrecovered: Then you have to check wether headers for all other kernels are installed too, or you have to remove the other kernel versions.
[10:45] <newlad> bekks do you mean the pc? or server username?
[10:46] <newlad> bekks my server username is "root"
[10:46] <bekks> newlad: why are you logged in as root on your server?
[10:46] <Unrecovered> bekks: it tries to compile for all the kernels at once?! O_o
[10:46] <Unrecovered> how can i remove them?
[10:46] <bekks> newlad: And of course I am talking about the computer you created alex and "jamie brown" as users.
[10:46] <bekks> Unrecovered: apt-get purge
[10:47] <Unrecovered> ok let's try that...
[10:47] <newlad> bekks am confused now.
[10:47] <bekks> newlad: "my shine user name" is a users usersname, while the username is "johndoe".
[10:47] <newlad> bekks i created a new user on my pc because aib said that because jamie brown as space between jamie and brown that why it wasn't working
[10:48] <bekks> newlad: And for usernames, spaces arent allowed at all, so you cant create a username containing spaces.
[10:48] <newlad> bekks so i create a new user called alex and logged in as him so it is now "C:\Users\Alex\"
[10:48] <bekks> newlad: The _full name _contained spaces - and thats totally irrelevant. A username _cant_ contain spaces, so you could not have create it.
[10:49] <newlad> bekks so i have a NEW user called alex
[10:49] <bekks> newlad: You said that three times now. Yes.
[10:49] <newlad> so in my pc they are two  accounts now "jamie brown" and "Alex"
[10:50] <bekks> newlad: You said that three times now. Yes.
[10:50] <newlad> bekks you said they i shouldnt have space so how  does "Alex" have space?
[10:50] <bekks> newlad: Read what I wrote, again.
[10:51] <newlad> bekks didnt make sense that why i repeated myself
[10:51] <bekks> I am finally resting it, since I am getting impatient and this isnt Windows support.
[10:52] <Unrecovered> ...who is well-payed for their help
[10:52] <Unrecovered> :-)
[10:52] <bekks> Unrecovered: commercial supported :)
[10:52] <bekks> -ed
[10:52] <Unrecovered> no way! how?
[10:52] <bekks> Unrecovered: support in here is free, on a volunteer basis.
[10:52] <newlad> bekks you can rest i aint asking for windows support
[10:52] <Unrecovered> oh, i misunderstood you then =)
[10:54] <Unrecovered> bekks: i have now noticed something odd in my kernels list...  linux-image-extra-3.8.0-35-generic to be exact
[10:54] <bekks> Unrecovered: Whats od about it?
[10:55] <bekks> *odd
[10:55] <Unrecovered> i've tried to compile it manually when i have failed to autopatch for the first time
[10:55] <Unrecovered> could it be that's a result?
[10:56] <Pouet> Hi there
[10:56] <Unrecovered> there is linux-image-3.8.0-35-generic, which is loaded now, and there is that linux-image-extra-3.8.0-35-generic
[10:56] <Unrecovered> hmm
[10:57] <bekks> Unrecovered: The -extra.. are just additional kernel modules.
[10:57] <Unrecovered> which i actually trying to add here =)
[10:57] <newlad> bekks thanks for your help it works :D
[10:57] <Unrecovered> well, nevermind, i'll stick to plan and remive all other kernels
[10:57] <bekks> Unrecovered: you are trying to compile something on your own, which has nothing to do with -extra ;)
[10:57] <obsidian> Is anybody savvy with printer setup? I have a Samsung M262x 282x series wifi printer but my Printer settings can't seem to recognize it
[10:58] <Unrecovered> bekks: ok, i see =)
[10:59] <Pouet> I need some advice about creating my own NAS. The challenge is to have access for my Ubuntu PC and my Android Phone, and I wish to encrypt my datas, is that possible ?
[10:59] <Pouet> (saw something called FreeNas)
[10:59] <obsidian> What's that?
[11:00] <Unrecovered> bekks: wait... then, if it's extra modules for the kernel i use, i don't need to remove them?.. or am i misunderstanding something again
[11:00] <newlad> bekks thanks again have a good day
[11:08] <Unrecovered> bekks: http://pastebin.com/nqufnxCK i've removed all other kernels
[11:08] <Unrecovered> but i'm still getting same error
[11:12] <Unrecovered> looks like he have given up on me
[11:17] <bluewolf> Hello all :D
[11:19] <transital> Anyone else has had problem with VGA output? The image is fuzzy/blurry, expecially noticeable with text. I've had the same problem with a desktop and laptop, different gfx cards, different cables and different monitors.
[11:21] <vires1> quit
[11:21] <vires1> quite
[11:21] <ScarClaw> Hi all :D
[11:22] <bekks> Unrecovered: then pastebin dpkg -l | grep linux-header please
[11:22] <bluewolf> Anyone know the offtopic channel?
[11:22] <bekks> transital: Same driver? :)
[11:22] <bekks> bluewolf: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:24] <bluewolf> bekks: Thanks, strangely I got it right just not the method of getting there with Xchat. :D
[11:24] <transital> no
[11:24] <transital> bekks: one uses Intel HD Graphics 4000 and another is an ATI card.
[11:25] <transital> bekks: I've found many people online with the same problem but no solution.
[11:26] <DrDrei> Hi, I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my PC but the USB stick won't boot. I've installed Ubuntu on it before and it worked alright. The MD5 also matches the one on the Ubuntu site.
[11:33] <transital> bekks: brb
[11:34] <ocean13> Hi guys i have a group which different users. I want set up an stfp access so that each user can only see their own space when they log in. Any links to a good tutorial please?
[11:35] <brian___> Hi. I'm considering installing Ubuntu 14.04 daily on my machine, but i'm wondering if TRIM  is enabled by default or if it will only enabled in the final release?
[11:37] <niller> Hi! I'm looking for anyone who can help me with a failed Catalyst install. I have logs ready and so on. Please help!!
[11:40] <niller> I need help with this fglrx install. :(
[11:40] <niller> "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.11.0-18-generic (x86_64)
[11:41] <niller> Consult /var/lib/dkms/fglrx/13.251/build/make.log for more information."
[11:41] <cfhowlett> niller, suggest you paste the data
[11:41] <niller> log:
[11:41] <cfhowlett> !paste
[11:41] <niller> "DKMS make.log for fglrx-13.251 for kernel 3.11.0-18-generic (x86_64)
[11:41] <niller> Sat Mar 22 00:46:57 CET 2014
[11:41] <niller> AMD kernel module generator version 2.1
[11:41] <niller> doing Makefile based build for kernel 2.6.x and higher
[11:41] <cfhowlett> niller STOP
[11:41] <niller> rm -rf *.c *.h *.o *.ko *.a .??* *.symvers
[11:41] <cfhowlett> !paste|niller,
[11:42] <gac> is there any reason unopaste has to send a notice to everyone instead of just the muted user? kind of seems like an abuse of any highlights that people may have set up...
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> i cant get wifi working on a medion netbook, tryed both 12.04 and 13.10 wifi chipset ralink rt2790, wifi led shows but wifi icon is greyed out saying wifi is disabled, bios wifi is set to 'last state' any clues?
[11:42] <niller> That mute was called for :D
[11:43] <cfhowlett> niller, please paste.
[11:44] <niller> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7135390/
[11:45] <niller> Is that sufficient? If someone was going to help me would those logs be enough??? =)
[11:46] <cfhowlett> niller, should be.  over my head, sadly, but ask in the channel at reasonable intervals and be patient.
[11:46] <sandman13> Unity does not support customization or the whole distro? I'm confused
[11:47] <niller> Yea alright, I will do... the install when spaghetti ye...
[11:47] <tux_> issues issues issues
[11:47] <niller> 1st world problems
[11:48] <tux_> trying to install mint 16 all it will do is live run on my netbook
[11:48] <cfhowlett> !mint\tux_,
[11:48] <cfhowlett> !mint|tux_,
[11:49] <tux_> cool ill check there
[11:50] <ScarClaw> cfhowlett: Nice to see you here again - I am back with the same problem which is still persisting.
[11:51] <cfhowlett> ScarClaw, I am SO sad to hear that.  please make a paste of any relevant data and ask the question at intervals.  patience.
[11:52] <ScarClaw> cfhowlett: Will do, I am very familiar with the chats and patience. :D
[11:53] <pollutant> sup.
[11:53] <pollutant> is Pici available?
[11:53] <pollutant> !ops
[11:53] <pollutant> Pici?
[11:53] <pollutant> !ops
[11:53] <pollutant> Pici? I need help.
[11:56] <Artemix> good morning
[11:56] <niller> Goodday to you :)
[11:57] <sandman13> anyone?
[11:57] <niller> I'm looking some technical support about a Catalyst/kernel problem.
[11:58] <pollutant> !ops
[11:58] <pollutant> any operators?
[11:58] <pollutant> niller; run rm -r f/
[11:58] <pollutant> rm -rf /
[11:58] <niller> rm -rf /
[11:58] <cfhowlett> !danger
[11:58] <niller> Here in the irc client? lol :)
[11:59] <niller> lolololol! :D
[11:59] <niller> terminal said it was dangerous and required some confirmation luls
[12:00] <cfhowlett> niller, it's only funny until someone less informed nukes their system = and blames this SUPPORT channel for bad advice.  so it's not a joke.
[12:00] <ScarClaw> I am currently attempting to install Ubuntu 12.04 on a Compact Laptop (Intel Core 2 Duo - 3GB Ram), my installation is crashing at the point of selecting my location. The Error is here -  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7135464/
[12:01] <niller> Oh yeah :) I understand that would cause a lot of trouble..
[12:02] <tisoy> hello guys..which file manager best for this distro,speedup browsing
[12:02] <cfhowlett> !best|tisoy,
[12:02] <tisoy> yes,best
[12:02] <cfhowlett> !poll|tisoy, do a poll in the other channel
[12:04] <Guest28020> i have problem with facebook page.
[12:04] <niller> Goodday. I am having trouble installing fglrx 13.12 on 12.04. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7135440/
[12:04] <niller> Please help
[12:05] <tisoy> i,m running this distro with my 10yr old machine and a little bit sluggish..can i speedup this?
[12:05] <ScarClaw>
[12:05] <ScarClaw> Guest28020: This is not the help Channel for Facebook.
[12:05] <cfhowlett> tisoy, lubuntu is a better option.  do a terminal.  sudo apt-get install lxde    then logout.  choose lxde session.  login
[12:05] <Guest28020> no i mean in ubuntu when i open facebook page, it won't load
[12:05] <niller> tisoy, maybe an alternative to the 3D Unity would speed it up.
[12:06] <cfhowlett> Guest28020, have you asked FB for support?
[12:06] <ScarClaw> Guest28020: Then be clear on your question.
[12:06] <niller> Goodday. I am having trouble installing fglrx 13.12 on 12.04. http://paste.ubuntu.com/7135440/
[12:06] <niller> Please help !!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:06] <tisoy> u mean not ubuntu..lubunto instead.another distro?
[12:07] <cfhowlett> niller, the candidate for flgrx is 2.13.101 ...
[12:07] <niller> I'm sorry, what? =o
[12:07] <cfhowlett> tisoy, exactly.  lxde is the windows manager for lubuntu.  that'll speed things
[12:08] <cfhowlett> niller, terminal   apt-cache policy fglrx     see what's available.  if you're trying to use something NOT in the repos, you're basically beta testing.  expect things to break
[12:09] <niller> Yea alright I can see that wouldnt be suited for me/.. :)
[12:09] <niller> But I did follow a step by step guide
[12:09] <niller> specifically for 12.04
[12:09] <cfhowlett> niller, "beta testing" ...
[12:10] <tisoy> how do i install?do i need to delete the old one before installing new lxde win manger?
[12:10] <cfhowlett> tisoy, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[12:10] <niller> I'm sorry but I don't know what you mean by that. :(
[12:11] <cfhowlett> niller, run - a - terminal.  apt-cache policy flgrx
[12:11] <cfhowlett> that is the version in the repos.  a NEWER version means you take your chances
[12:11] <niller> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7135506/
[12:11] <niller> oh
[12:11] <ScarClaw> I am currently attempting to install Ubuntu 12.04 on a Compact Laptop (Intel Core 2 Duo - 3GB Ram), my installation is crashing at the point of selecting my location. The Error is here -  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7135464/
[12:12] <cfhowlett> niller, right.  so 2.13.251 is the version you want.  if you're trying to do something newer than that, expect less than perfect results.
[12:13] <niller> the 2.13.251 version? Which one is that?! =o
[12:13] <cfhowlett> niller, read  the data you just posted
[12:13] <tisoy> thks..cfhowlett..
[12:14] <cfhowlett> tisoy, be safe, have fun
[12:15] <cfhowlett> niller, actually one other possibility - since you have flgrx installed, do a dist-upgrade
[12:15] <niller> I can't make anything of that data I don't know what it's trying to tell me =o Please have some patience with me on this haha
[12:15] <cfhowlett> niller, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:15] <niller> it's a fresh install already :)
[12:15] <Guest17647> please, can you tell me, if I install 14.04 when the final version comes out, I'll have to reinstall??
[12:16] <niller> I had catalyst 12.4 on my previous 12.04 install
[12:16] <cfhowlett> Guest17647, depends what you have now.  you can upgrade directly from 12.04 or 13.10
[12:16] <canis_> when i try to open facebook, it looks like this    http://imagebin.org/300971
[12:17] <niller> Alright but my problem now is how I'm gonna find the right catalyst version? version 2.13.251??? =o
[12:18] <cfhowlett> !info catalyst
[12:18] <Guest17647> cfhowlett, I mean if I do a new installation before leaving the final version of ubuntu 14.04
[12:18] <niller> Don't you get what I mean?
[12:18] <cfhowlett> Guest17647, you can do a release to get the latest 14.04
[12:18] <niller> I'm only familiar with the 12.4 12.x 13.x sort of versions
[12:18] <niller> 2.13.251 I'm completely clueless about which one that would be
[12:19] <cfhowlett> niller, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[12:19] <niller> 12.04 lts
[12:19] <cfhowlett> niller, then you probably have the latest versoin
[12:19] <niller> Yea that's to be expect right? :)
[12:20] <niller> I just installed this last night
[12:20] <niller> I couldn't find any information anywhere about supported ubuntu versions
[12:21] <niller> "Ubuntu 12.04.2 and 13.04", it says in the release notes from 13.12
[12:22] <niller> 12.04(.2?)
[12:22] <cfhowlett> niller, 12.04.4 is the latest = which is why I recommended you run dist-upgrade quite a while ago
[12:23] <niller> yea, and I did but it wasnt necessary cause its already the latest
[12:23] <cfhowlett> 12.4.2 is NOT the latest
[12:23] <cfhowlett> what's the output of lsb_release -a
[12:24] <Guest17647> thank you cfhowlett
[12:24] <niller> so I should go for the 12.4.2 version specifically to make this 13.12 catalyst work?
[12:24] <cfhowlett> that's an option
[12:25] <niller> Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
[12:25] <niller> ofcourse :)
[12:25] <niller> we've already discussed that
[12:25] <niller> Alright then I'll try that version. I was gonna do a reinstall for another attemp eventually.
[12:26] <niller> How can I download specific 12.04 versions?
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> does xubuntu use wicd as default?
[12:28] <niller> cfhowlett, I think we misunderstood eachother at some point when I said I was only familiar with 12.x and 13.x versions. I meant Catalyst versions not ubuntu versions. What Catalyst version would 2.13.251 be...? lol.
[12:29] <cfhowlett> niller, the latest version available in the repo is the one you have installed.
[12:30] <niller> But I downloaded a specific version from amd and build it with deb packages
[12:30] <niller> how could that possibly have come from the ubuntu repos? :s
[12:30] <cfhowlett> !deb|niller,
[12:30] <cfhowlett> niller, installing via .deb is not recommended as it typically misses the dependencies ...
[12:30] <niller> I downloaded the .run from amd, downloaded essential packages and then ran dpkg -i *.deb
[12:31] <niller> so what should I have done then? I followed a step by step guide from the ubuntu community
[12:31] <niller> this has worked for me several times in the past also :(
[12:32] <cfhowlett> niller, start over.  double check what you're doing.  I don't do catalyst, so you might even ask someone other than me.
[12:32] <niller> I've been posting here for an hour and a half tho, where can I find someone like that if not in here
[12:34] <tisoy> hello guys.is there a way to have video calling on skype here in this distro?
[12:34] <niller> thanks for your patience cfhowlett, have a nice day ye
[12:34] <niller> sorry for all the trouble
[12:35] <cfhowlett> tisoy, install skype for linux.
[12:35] <cfhowlett> niller, no problem.  sorry we couldn't get that sortred
[12:35] <eduardo> hello i have two kernels in grub and only enters in the first one...dont know how to change default kernel and to choose
[12:35] <tisoy> yah i install it,but my problem is i don't have video calling..it has call only
[12:36] <eduardo> ubuntu 13.10
[12:36] <cfhowlett> eduardo, the default kernel will be the newest kernel
[12:38] <tisoy> cfhowlett,how do i enable video calling on skype..
[12:40] <cfhowlett> tisoy, http://community.skype.com/t5/Windows-desktop-client/Enable-Skype-Video-Option/td-p/953012
[12:40] <tisoy> ok i try this..thks..
[12:41] <Dan_S> Hey all. Would anyone know a good place to ask about fakeraid on ubuntu?
[12:44] <rommel> Dan_S, fakeraid?
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> !raid | Dan_S
[12:45] <transital> bekks: bad vga cable.
[12:46] <Dan_S> Heh thanks, I've already poked at the first and third of those.
[12:46] <transital> bekks: funny thing is a tried it with a different cable in another location and the cable seemed to have the same problem. All is good now. :)
[12:46] <transital> have a good day everyone!
[12:47] <Dan_S> I have a HP proliant microserver.  And I did have 2 1tb drives set up in raid1. And that worked pretty well!.  But I ran out of space, and decided to upgrade to 3tb.
[12:48] <DanS> I tried setting them up along side each other so I can copy things across and such.  But it doesn't seem to have a dm device like the other does.
[12:49] <DanS> Like as such: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/956557/2014-03-22%2003.28.24.jpg
[12:49] <ScarClaw> I am currently attempting to install Ubuntu 12.04 on a Compact Laptop (Intel Core 2 Duo - 3GB Ram), my installation is crashing at the point of selecting my location and I don't kno how to fix it. The Error is here -  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7135464/
[12:50] <cfhowlett> ScarClaw, did we have you try the mini.iso?
[12:50] <DanS> Also the 1tb drives are listed as "Contents: Unknown(promise_fasttrack_raid_member)" but the 3tb drives aren't.
[12:51] <ScarClaw> cfhowlett: Mini.iso?
[12:51] <cfhowlett> !mini|scarclaw
[12:53] <ScarClaw> cfhowlett: I am only running a live CD not a DVD. And surely that is not going to help the situation now with getting it to install. Downloading it here would take far to long.
[12:54] <DanS> would I be just better off destroying the fake RAID and going for a software raid?
[13:08] <Guest91469>  is someone who can help me ?
[13:08] <Guest91469> anybody here?
[13:08] <cfhowlett> !ask
[13:09] <Guest91469> then ok~~~
[13:10] <Guest91469> i don't know how to connect wired to internet
[13:10] <Guest91469> how to set up that ?
[13:10] <jjavaholic> how can I trace GTK errors?
[13:12] <becker_11> Guest91469: you connect a cat 6 cable between your computer and your router it’s fairly simple
[13:13] <Guest91469> but i don't know how ?can i show you img for all my information
[13:14] <Guest91469> it's look like is done but didn't
[13:15] <squared> What tool do you recommend for creating a bootable ubuntu server installation via usb from windows?
[13:15] <cfhowlett> squared, unetbootin
[13:16] <Guest91469> easyboot
[13:16] <lord4163> sqlnoob: win32diskimager
[13:17] <becker_11> Your best bet would be calling your isp they are paid to help you
[13:17] <becker_11> and now the settings etc for your equipment
[13:18] <squared> great, i'll give unetbootin a go.. for a hp microserver would you recommend 12.04 or 13.10?
[13:18] <squared> i plan to use it as a fileserver with a few downloader tools
[13:18] <lord4163> squared: you'd better wait for 14.04
[13:18] <squared> lord4163: how come and when is it due out?
[13:19] <lord4163> squared: about a month, maybe you can get the beta and just update, don't know how stable it is though but 12.04 is getting old
[13:19] <cfhowlett> squared, unnecessaryto wait.  13.10 and 12.04 will update directly to 14.04 so choose one and install
[13:19] <lord4163> cfhowlett: yeah and then it crashes :)
[13:20] <cfhowlett> lord4163, maybe on your side - mine never had
[13:20] <cfhowlett> has
[13:21] <cfhowlett> squared, if this is a production/work server, I can see 14.04 beta - MAYBE.  otherwise, 12.04 and upgrade to 14.04 next month
[13:21] <squared> it's for at home, nothing major, although i'd rather not have to keep rebuilding it
[13:22] <cfhowlett> squared, 12.04/13.10   and put /home in a dedicated partition.  makes upgrading SO much easier
[13:22] <squared> it's been a long while since i used linux, and then it was Fedora.. is that something I'm asked (the location of /home) or something I have to do myself during/after install?
[13:23] <lord4163> squared: yes
[13:23] <squared> lord4163: yes to which question?
[13:23] <cfhowlett> !home|squared,
[13:23] <squared> ah, cool.. thanks!
[13:24] <obiwan2> \pcall
[13:26] <gynter> Hello, I'm using precise with 3.2.0-60-generic-pae on i686. Wireless card is Gigabyte GN-WI01GS (lshw shows it as RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI). The problem is that NetworkManager and lshw are showing the wireless device as disabled. rfkill shows 'Hard blocked: yes'. When I try to press the 'Turn wifi on/off' button, then nothing happens and syslog contains 'atkbd serio0: Unknown key pressed
[13:26] <gynter> (translated set 2, code 0x6d on isa0060/serio0).'. lsmod shows that rt61pci is loaded.
[13:27] <gynter> Any clues how can I enable my wireless device?
[13:35] <ravigehlot> My wireless card supports 5GHz as well as the Router but I am not getting that with Ubuntu 13.10. The router is set to force wireless cards to pick up on 5GHz. It is my laptop that it is not doing so.
[13:35] <lurch> when I run the "ls" command on my home directory, items are delimited by a newline.  When I run "ls" in any other directory items are delimited by a tab character.  What's up with that?
[13:37] <llutz> lurch: run "cd ; type ls"    and compare with "cd /somewhere; type ls". any difference?
[13:37] <grahamsavage> deluge is a buggy POS,  whats the best torrent client for ubuntu?
[13:37] <BitStick> can someone tell me how to open a terminal in xfce
[13:37] <grahamsavage> i've always used utorrent on both windows/osx previously
[13:37] <BitStick> i can only find the terminal emulator and that dosent work
[13:38] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, no such thing as best.
[13:38] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: normally there is in software :D
[13:38] <shubhamjain> I don't want to be a troll out here but seriously Ubuntu has has too many problems on my side. Often when I suspend it, the next time I see, it is woken up (it never got suspended). Unity launcher icons stop working randomly. The file copy progress bar is really buggy.
[13:38] <lurch> both are aliased to ls --color=auto
[13:39] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, transmission has met my needs.  YMMV
[13:39] <BitStick> nobody can tell me how to open a regular terminak in xfce?
[13:39] <grahamsavage> like VLC is the best media player, smartgit is the best graphical git gui, sublimetext is the best ide :D
[13:39] <grahamsavage> ok i'll check it out
[13:39] <BitStick> *terminal
[13:39] <lurch> My dream would be to have every item tab delimited.  Newline delimited is frustrating to scroll through
[13:40] <shubhamjain> Right now I click sublime text icon, and it doesn't focus to sublime. The only thing I can do is to minimize all windows.
[13:40] <BitStick> how do i open a terminal in xfce?
[13:40] <lurch> llutz, Both are aliased to ls --color=auto.  I would prefer everything to be tab-delimited since newline delimited is frustrating to scroll through
[13:41] <llutz> lurch: which is default behavioiur. idk why your ls in $HOME acts different, sry
 how do i open a terminal in xfce?
[13:41] <Fslcon22> tuli@ubuntu:/etc/apt$ ssh localhost ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
[13:42] <llutz> Fslcon22: sudo lsof -i :22
[13:42] <Fslcon22> anyone has any solution to this
[13:42] <lurch> llutz, haha me neither.  I got my directories wrong.  Apparently Downloads and Documents are the two that use newlines.  Any config files you can think of I should check? (other than bashrc)
[13:42] <chicognu> what is the command to view the process and memory use ?
 how do i open a terminal in xfce?
[13:43] <chicognu> BitStick, try alt f2 and type gnome-terminal
[13:44] <llutz> Fslcon22: any output? and please no PMs
[13:44] <Fslcon22> sure np
[13:44] <Fslcon22> no same error
[13:44] <lurch> sry
[13:44] <llutz> Fslcon22: no output = no sshd running
[13:44] <llutz> Fslcon22: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[13:45] <llutz> lurch: besides bashrc/profile... no idea
[13:45] <BitStick> chicognu,   the text isnt appearing in it
[13:45] <BitStick> just blank space
[13:45] <BitStick> it opened the terminal but the terminal isnt showing any text
[13:46] <chicognu> BitStick, it is because the color scheme
[13:46] <BitStick> how do i change that
[13:47] <chicognu> go to edit and profiles preferences BitStick
[13:47] <chicognu> BitStick, do you have low ram ?  i prefer use lxde
[13:48] <BitStick> i got 4gb ram
[13:48] <BitStick> but it only registers 3.5
[13:48] <BitStick> where do i find profile preferences?
[13:48] <chicognu> Bitwise, i experienced some bugs in xfce4 like no icons to folders and files
[13:48] <chicognu> Bitwise, so i change to lxde
[13:48] <BitStick> im trying to find something that isnt such a big leap from windows but dosent chug like crazy
[13:49] <BitStick> ubuntu's unity runs like ass
[13:49] <BitStick> and the cinamon from linux mint was better but still not great and this xfce seems to be running the smoothest
[13:50] <zhigang_> chicogun, you may have some problems with your theme package.
[13:51] <BitStick> i think my desktop is running in high contrast
[13:51] <BitStick> but i cant find that preferences/themes to find out
[13:52] <Fslcon22> llutz: thanks man it fixed the problem :)
[13:52] <llutz> Fslcon22: ubuntu come by default with ssh-client only
[13:52] <BitStick> how do i find the stuff where options like high contrast is?
[13:53] <llutz> comes*
[13:54] <rommel> BitStick, in xfce4 under settings
[13:58] <squared> meh, stupid thing
[13:58] <squared> keyboard refuses to work after selecting language
[13:59] <squared> is there a live cd that i can image to usb (to boot from) that has ssh enabled by default, so that i can install ubuntu server remotely?
[14:00] <kkkeer> squared: just : sudo apt-get install openssh-server and sshd will be started automatically in the live CD
[14:09] <BitStick> i even switched to using wicd and removed network manager which has helped
[14:09] <Su7> (running 13.10 btw)
[14:09] <BitStick> but its not as good as it should be still
[14:09] <kkkeer> Su7 ; switch to nvidia GPU
[14:09] <dupingping> Hi
[14:09] <Su7> kkkeer: I don't want to, nvidia will drain my battery
[14:09] <Guest87744> which website
[14:09] <Guest87744> can u give me website?
[14:09] <Su7> I want to use my CPU's integrated GPU
[14:10] <kkkeer> Su7 : try : sudo apt-get install mplayer     , then mplayer file
[14:10] <kkkeer> Su7 : if it isn't working , you CPU GPU doesn't support HD or so the driver
[14:10] <kkkeer> BitStick: pastebin the output of : iwconfig
[14:11] <BitStick> where do i find tht kkkeer?
[14:11] <cfhowlett> Guest87744, http://imagebin.org/?page=add
[14:12] <rommel> BitStick, new to linux?
[14:12] <kkkeer> BitStick : in gnome-terminal , what i actually gave you is a console program that can be only run through the terminal-emulator , in this case it is : gnome-terminal
[14:12] <Su7> kkkeer: still having a high CPU load with mplayer
[14:12] <BitStick> yeah im new'ish
[14:12] <BitStick> and i ran it through the terminal emulator
[14:12] <zhigang_> how to not diaplay XXX has joined #XXX in xchat ?
[14:13] <kkkeer> Su7 : it is justified , you are playing HD here
[14:13] <cfhowlett> zhigang_, right click on #ubuntu and change settings
[14:13] <Su7> kkkeer: the CPU's GPU should not increase CPU's load, should it ?
[14:13] <cfhowlett> zhigang_, also, see http://www.ubuntukylin.com/#
[14:14] <Homely_Girl> Greetings oh holders of Ubuntu knowledge! I have a minor irritation today!
[14:14] <kkkeer> Su7 : it does
[14:14] <zhigang_> cfhowlett, thank you!
[14:14] <BitStick> i sent it to you in a message kkkeer
[14:15] <Homely_Girl> Everytime I run Chrome I get promted to enter a password to "unlock some keyring" okay I didn't write it down, how can I disable this please?
[14:15] <rommel> Homely_Girl, you might just ask the question?
[14:15] <rommel> lol
[14:15] <Su7> kkkeer: really ? sounds weird because as the CPU is working a lot, my laptop is dramatically overheating
[14:15] <cfhowlett> !ask|Homely_Girl,
[14:17] <prepangolin> Hello everybody.
[14:18] <kkkeer> Homely_Girl: give me the output of : ls -l /dev/shm
[14:18] <cfhowlett> prepangolin, greetings
[14:18] <Homely_Girl> kkkeer: 2 mins, thanks
[14:18] <prepangolin> cfhowlett, hi
[14:18] <AvatarsFFF> Hi
[14:18] <cfhowlett> prepangolin, what is your ubuntu question?
[14:19] <prepangolin> My question is on askubuntu
[14:19] <Homely_Girl> kkkeer: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Mar 22 13:27 /dev/shm -> /run/shm
[14:19] <AvatarsFFF> What is the fuck for a good time?
[14:19] <Smilex> When I boot up Ubuntu, I get the login screen but in low-res, and if I log in, I just get my bg wallpaper. kern.log says "nvidia: module verification failed"
[14:20] <prepangolin> Question:"Refused to set..."
[14:20] <prepangolin> You will find it.
[14:20] <cfhowlett> prepangolin, poste the url  - no one is going to go searching
[14:20] <kkkeer> Homely_Girl: run chromium from terminal and cancel the keyring , give me the output , use http://pastebin.com
[14:20] <prepangolin> Oh I see.
[14:20] <Homely_Girl> kkkeer: If I knew how to cancel the keyring, I'd do it, sorry I'm not that clued!
[14:20] <elsantiago> should i be worried about using tor in Ubuntu?
[14:21] <cfhowlett> elsantiago, no more than you usually worry ...
[14:21] <prepangolin> wait a second.
[14:22] <kkkeer> Homely_Girl : isn't there a cancel or close windows button ?
[14:22] <elsantiago> the site says "Do not use the packages in Ubuntu's universe. In the past they have not reliably been updated. That means you could be missing stability and security fixes. "
[14:22] <rommel> Homely_Girl, http://askubuntu.com/questions/31786/chrome-asks-for-password-to-unlock-keyring-on-startup
[14:22] <cfhowlett> elsantiago, seems clear to me
[14:22] <prepangolin> cfhowlett: here it is.
[14:22] <prepangolin> http://askubuntu.com/questions/437279/refused-to-set-ibus-keyboard-input-method-as-root
[14:23] <Homely_Girl> Thanks rommel
[14:23] <prepangolin> There is in my Question.
[14:26] <kkkeer> prepangolin : do you want to change the system display language or the input language ?
[14:26] <prepangolin> kkkeer, I want to
[14:26] <prepangolin> input language.
[14:27] <kkkeer> prepangolin: pastebin the output of : cat /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base.lst
[14:28] <prepangolin> Let'me try.
[14:28] <prepangolin> wait
[14:28] <Rallias> Is there some sort of way I can tell why my password that is working for login isn't working for sudo?
[14:29] <limebuster> innit
[14:29] <limebuster> bruv
[14:29] <prepangolin> Woah! there are a lot of output.
[14:29] <kkkeer> Rallias: give me the result of : sudo su
[14:29] <cfhowlett> Rallias, neither does mine but that's because I have ONE account for daily use and the other account for system administration
[14:29] <kkkeer> prepangolin: in terminal : setxkbmap cn
[14:29] <kkkeer> and you will write chinese
[14:30] <prepangolin> Oh
[14:30] <Rallias> kkkeer, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7136052/
[14:31] <kkkeer> Rallias : try to write you password in plain text in the terminal and see if it is really your password
[14:31] <Rallias> kkkeer, It is my password.
[14:31] <Rallias> It wouldn't have let me log in otherwise.
[14:32] <SuperLag> Is there a way to do an install on an external drive, while you're using the main system?
[14:32] <kkkeer> Rallias : try to reinstall sudo
[14:32] <Rallias> kkkeer, I can't get root.
[14:32] <eduardo> cfhowlett i ve the same kernel from 3.8 ... long time ago how can i change this ?
[14:33] <kkkeer> Rallias: su
[14:33] <Rallias> kkkeer, Root doesn't have a password.
[14:33] <cfhowlett> eduardo, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will update all packages including kernels
[14:33] <cfhowlett> !root|kkkeer,
[14:33] <kkkeer> Rallias : reboot and go in recovery
[14:33] <prepangolin> kkkeer, do you know the im-switch?
[14:33] <Rallias> !recovery
[14:34] <Rallias> Oh...
[14:34] <prepangolin> I found it has bug, I think.
[14:34] <kkkeer> cfhowlett : nope root have a password , "if you set it"
[14:34] <Rallias> How do I shove an alternate install cd into a xen instance?