[10:41] <noiano> aalhamad: i ise kde...just browse trough the menus...
[10:41] <glyn_> that's what I get when I try to use it
[10:41] <daviey> Hi, i have out the native resolution into xorg.conf, but it doesn't appear as an option.  Why not?
[10:41] <SurfnKid> shatrat^sleep: thanks brb
[10:41] <shatrat^sleep> _`XeOn_, splash is a kernel option.  If it isnt already in your grub entry, you can add it by using the "e" key to edit the entry.  When you have added the word splash to the big long line of boot options just hit "b" to boot
[10:41] <noiano> aalhamad: you will find it!
[10:41] <SurfnKid> I appreciate you helping me out
[10:42] <shatrat^sleep> I need to stop helping people, its sleep time
[10:42] <noiano> anyone can help me with my annoyng problem?
[10:42] <shatrat^sleep> I probably can but if I dont sleep now I never will
[10:42] <_`XeOn_> shatrat^sleep [TNT] ~* from where?
[10:42] <glyn_> earlier there were people telling me to use easycam
[10:42] <glyn_> but it doesn't work
[10:42] <glyn_> and I'm getting errors
[10:43] <variant> noiano: so it doesn/'t reboot at all? if you type "reboot" does it work?
[10:43] <glyn_> anyone able to help?
[10:43] <variant> noiano: what motherboard do you have?
[10:43] <noiano> variant: i have an asus p4pe
[10:43] <noiano> i have never had such problem with dapper
[10:43] <glyn_> !webcam
[10:43] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[10:44] <noiano> variant: simply when i click reboot afther the sound i got a black screen and nothing more
[10:44] <variant> noiano: shouldn't have any problems.. it's a well supported mobo
[10:44] <phiqtion> shatrat^sleep: speedfan can overclock cpu?, any good info for overclocking? i've never done it, any good guides?
[10:44] <noiano> variant: i have been told it's a "grafic" problem
[10:44] <variant> noiano: check the log in /var/log/lastlog
[10:44] <noiano> what can i do?
[10:45] <variant> noiano: in that case, run /etc/init.d/gdm stop and log into the terminal. from there run shutdown -r now
[10:45] <phiqtion> shatrat^reallysleep: speedfan can overclock cpu?, any good info for overclocking? i've never done it, any good guides?
[10:45] <phiqtion> any good info on overclocking?
[10:45] <variant> noiano: as a test
[10:45] <variant> noiano: what graphics card is it?
[10:45] <chris_shafto> need abit of help installing AntiVir personal...everytime i try to execute the gui command i get this To add chris to the `antivir' group:
[10:45] <chris_shafto> # /usr/sbin/usermod -G adm,dialout,cdrom,floppy,audio,dip,video,plugdev,lpadmin,scanner,admin,chris,antivir chris
[10:46] <noiano> variant: it is an ati 9500pro
[10:46] <variant> noiano: I don't see how that would affect shutdown/reboot
[10:46] <noiano> variant: i will do the /etc/init.d/gdm stop test now
[10:46] <variant> noiano: sounds like the motherboard is not powering fof
[10:46] <variant> off
[10:46] <noiano> but it is so strange
[10:46] <variant> ye
[10:46] <noiano> because dapper had  no problem
[10:46] <tonyyarusso> chris_shafto: 'sudo adduser chris antivir'
[10:46] <variant> at what point does it stop?
[10:47] <variant> this is edgy?
[10:47] <noiano> variant: yes
[10:47] <noiano> besides i do not see the progress bar
[10:47] <noiano> that goes from left to right
[10:47] <chris_shafto> same error tony
[10:47] <noiano> ps :/etc/init.d/gdm stop no such file!
[10:48] <frogzoo> anyone's logoff icon now just logs off without prompting?
[10:48] <variant> noiano: kde users?
[10:48] <frogzoo> kind of annoying
[10:48] <variant> noiano: try kdm
[10:48] <daviey> i have a problem, tty1 (ctrl+alt+f1) is just a black screen.  I assume it means it's out of range resolution.  How can i change this?
[10:48] <noiano> variant: i did not understand...
[10:48] <tonyyarusso> chris_shafto: hmmm
[10:48] <tonyyarusso> chris_shafto: Unfortunately, that's not a program I'm familiar with
[10:49] <glyn_> hey, how do I add something to the system tray?
[10:49] <noiano> variant: i forgot to tell you that if i choose the recovery mode the shutdown command works ok
[10:49] <mrstocks> Hey, how can i remove kdm / gdm without all kde / gnome ?
[10:49] <variant> chris_shafto: did you run the command it suggests? (usermod -G etc etc
[10:49] <mrstocks> kdm doesnt work here... nor does gdm...
[10:49] <variant> noiano: sorry I don't know what it is
[10:50] <noiano> where can I ask?
[10:50] <noiano> who can I ask to?
[10:50] <variant> noiano: try updating the system see if it was a bug introduced in a recent update
[10:50] <SurfnKid> shat^reallysleep: ok gonna log out now
[10:50] <SurfnKid> brb
[10:51] <noiano> variant: i have already updated everthing
[10:51] <JJ_> evening all
[10:51] <glyn_> I've been working on this all night would really appreciate some help
[10:51] <variant> noiano: take a look in /var/log/ for the X log and hte kernel logs
[10:51] <JJ_> if In wanted to lock all the ports on my pc and move it to the DMZ of my router how would I do it please ?
[10:51] <noiano> variant: ok
[10:52] <mrstocks> JJ_ weird idea... but use ipchaines no ?
[10:52] <mrstocks> It norning here no ?
[10:52] <variant> JJ_: you have a hw firewall that supports dmz/trust/untrust?
[10:53] <JJ_> ok that was the next question, is there a fire wall as I sont find and gui interface for one
[10:53] <v_> good morning
[10:53] <variant> JJ_: buntu comes with iptables by default (no gui) but you can install firestarter for a nice easy gui
[10:54] <glyn_> hah, I figured it out myself, you guys all suck..j/k
[10:54] <v_> i finally remembered what i needed to do to enable shadow passwords: dpkg-reconfigure passwd
[10:54] <JJ_> I need to look at the router to work it out but was thinking of being able to vnc into the pc across the web
[10:54] <JJ_> thanks brb
[10:54] <variant> v_: lol
[10:54] <infidel> !sd
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:55] <SurfnKid> shat^reallysleep: guess what
[10:55] <SurfnKid> shat^reallysleep: it works
[10:56] <infidel> !sd
[10:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:56] <infidel> damn
[10:56] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | infidel
[10:56] <ubotu> infidel: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:56] <SurfnKid> shat^reallysleep: thank you so much sooo much so much, you have made someone happy tonight for helping out, now im going to keep your link and the others handy for future reference
[10:56] <variant> infidel: what you dint?
[10:56] <v_> so far so good w/ putting edgy on a cobalt raq 4
[10:56] <infidel> variant: huh?
[10:56] <v_> only problem is i'm using stock kernel 2.6.16 sources instead of ubuntu 2.6.17 sources
[10:57] <variant> infidel: lol, what you trying to find out?
[10:57] <infidel> variant: enabling the sd card reader
[10:57] <variant> infidel: I see, it shoud be seen as removable storage(when a card is in it)
[10:57] <variant> should*
[10:58] <variant> infidel: add the disk mounter applet to your panel ifyou want "easy" access to it
[10:58] <infidel> variant: yeah i know i see the driver but it doesn't popup on my desktop
[10:58] <variant> infidel: try mounting it
[10:58] <infidel> variant: ok
[11:00] <LastMall> mountng fails
[11:00] <variant> LastMall: moutning of what fails?
[11:03] <mrpurple> hi can someone tell me where i can paste some text ?
[11:04] <mrpurple> ok get it
[11:04] <_`XeOn_> how do i go into the menu.lst trough console?
[11:05] <chris218> hey guys. i need help installing server edition. been giving me grief all day
[11:05] <variant> _`XeOn_: sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:05] <mrpurple> someone can help me in installing skype ..
[11:05] <_`XeOn_> variant [TNT] ~* ty
[11:05] <variant> mrpurple: whats the problem?
[11:05] <nothlit> !skype | mrpurple
[11:05] <ubotu> mrpurple: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[11:05] <mrpurple> i'm getting this error .. while installing repository .. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3070/
[11:05] <mrpurple> i know ..
[11:05] <mrpurple> but i have amd 64 ..
[11:06] <infidel> variant: what /dev do i mount? tifm_7xx1: sd card detected in socket 3
[11:06] <mrpurple> and is not going at all
[11:06] <variant> mrpurple: that just means that the file specified in the repository does not exist on the skype server
[11:06] <mrpurple> so ... where i can get it ?
[11:06] <riazi> anyone here familiar with Gambas?
[11:07] <mrpurple> i forgot to tell You i'm newby in linux
[11:07] <variant> mrpurple: dunno
[11:07] <mrpurple> :-[
[11:07] <variant> mrpurple: the page ont he skype server doesnt seemt o exist any more
[11:07] <nothlit> you're a newbie, trying to run 64bit?
[11:07] <mrpurple> newbie .. for linux ..
[11:08] <mrpurple> not for winoz
[11:09] <variant> mrpurple: put your sources.list up on pastebin please
[11:10] <mrpurple> here are .. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3071/
[11:10] <mrpurple> i just reinstalled ubuntu
[11:11] <Setomidor> I'm running a fresh edgy install, and trying to get airsnort running. I'm on a madwifi card which only recognizes the card as an "Atheros unkown device". Problem is I don't seem to have 'wlanconfig' which is refered to in a lot of guides
[11:13] <v_> !universe
[11:13] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[11:14] <variant> mrpurple: looks like the skype repo is not available at the momment..
[11:15] <mrpurple> ok .. so lets wait .. :-D
[11:16] <mrpurple> is something that can takes days ?
[11:16] <Menisk> Can someone help me configure the nvidia binaries in my LFS distro?
[11:17] <lupine_85> Menisk: as long as you've still got your kernel source tree, it's as simple as running the nvidia installe
[11:17] <lupine_85> installer*
[11:17] <Menisk> Thank you lupine_85
[11:18] <Menisk> Wrong channel.
[11:18] <mrpurple> second question is ... how install the second screen on a nvidia 6600 gt ?
[11:18] <Menisk> I'm gonna ask in #gnu and get throttleed
[11:18] <mrpurple> i tried the xinematic .. but i think something is missing
[11:19] <mrpurple> xinerama . i don't remember
[11:24] <oxygen> hello
[11:24] <oxygen> i need rc.conf
[11:24] <oxygen> for ubuntu
[11:25] <okaratas> where is rc.conf for ubuntu ?
[11:25] <lupine_85> it doesn't exist
[11:26] <FreeYourMind> And now we wait for retard to come online <.<
[11:26] <FreeYourMind> Anyone seen dvdorp or dvjd the master or something online recently?
[11:26] <FreeYourMind> "djvdorp"
[11:26] <lupine_85> !seen djvdorp
[11:26] <ubotu> I haven't seen djvdorp recently
[11:27] <FreeYourMind> okey :)
[11:27] <lupine_85> okaratas: in edgy, it looks like the rc.conf functionality has been moved to /etc/event.d
[11:27] <FreeYourMind> He's a retard, claiming hes some pro hackor nd stuff @ school, claiming he hacked school networks nd stuff, but doesnt even know what SAM files are or buffer overflows or anything
[11:28] <lupine_85> and you're brining it up because...?
[11:28] <lupine_85> bringing*
[11:28] <FreeYourMind> cause
[11:28] <lupine_85> OT anyway
[11:28] <alecjw> !coc | FreeYourMind
[11:28] <ubotu> FreeYourMind: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[11:28] <^punisher8> sup
[11:28] <FreeYourMind> his name on google brought me here
[11:28] <FreeYourMind> !seen Arphetic
[11:28] <khoa> Arphetic was last seen Sat Jan 27 05:24:47 2007 changing nick to FreeYourMind in #ubuntu
[11:28] <ubotu> I haven't seen arphetic recently
[11:29] <okaratas> lupine_85, root@ozgur:/etc/event.d# locate rc.conf
[11:29] <okaratas> root@ozgur:/etc/event.d#
[11:29] <lupine_85> yes. read what I said again.
[11:29] <lupine_85> the /functionality/
[11:29] <FreeYourMind> ^_^ my last visit here was @ 2005 >.<
[11:30] <lupine_85> the script itself doesn't exist (dpkg -S rc.conf)
[11:30] <PriceChild> !offtopic | FreeYourMind
[11:30] <ubotu> FreeYourMind: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:30] <yahya_> I'm trying to install ubuntu on an old p3 system, after the kernel boots my lcd monitor goes blank saying "out of range 35.5Khz 87Hz"
[11:30] <lupine_85> yahya_: modify the modelines in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:30] <lupine_85> or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to do it automagically
[11:31] <lupine_85> well, fairly automagically
[11:33] <yahya_> lupine_85, I'm booting off the dapper cd
[11:33] <lupine_85> chroot into your hd partition
[11:33] <yahya_> I have a 1680x1050 display.. could that be a problem?
[11:34] <NoobieDoobieDo> I have anacron, cron and atd all running at startup.. is that normal?
[11:34] <yahya_> lupine_85, my hdd isn't partitioned yet
[11:34] <lupine_85> as long as both the graphics card and monitor support it, no
[11:34] <lupine_85> ah. so the live cd isn't working.
[11:34] <frogzoo_> NoobieDoobieDo: yes
[11:34] <lupine_85> tried the safe graphics mode?
[11:34] <lupine_85> or the alternate cd?
[11:34] <lupine_85> !alternate
[11:34] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[11:34] <lupine_85> or the edgy cd ;)
[11:35] <NoobieDoobieDo> frogzoo, do you know why 3 different types of the same program are running ?
[11:35] <glyn_> does anyone know how to permanently configure light for a cam?
[11:35] <glyn_> !webcam
[11:35] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:35] <yahya_> lupine_85, yeah..with safe graphics mode,  I get a big ubuntu logo (displayed offcenter ) with an oscillating progress bar..then the screen goes blank after some time
[11:35] <NoobieDoobieDo> I don't understand why 3 different action schedulers must run, I'd think one should be able to schedule all the actiosn
[11:36] <NoobieDoobieDo> *actions
[11:36] <yahya_> lupine_85, the pc is atleast 5 years old..could it be the graphic card doesn't support widescreen displays?
[11:36] <prof> helo, does anyone know of a way to get my dhcp sending my computername to my internetprovider so that it connects me to the internet?
[11:37] <frogzoo_> NoobieDoobieDo: check man page, they do different things
[11:37] <NoobieDoobieDo> ok, thank you
[11:38] <mwe> prof: what do you mean? usually you just run dhclient <interface> to get an IP with dhcp
[11:38] <ghatak> Hi guys, i just booted in Live CD of Edgy, After going into Gnome, i can see these horizontal lines on my screen, they move from bottom and scroll all the way to up and again and again. I did not had this issue with windows on same card. Any help ?
[11:38] <glyn_> how do I take off color correction on my webcam settings permanently?
[11:39] <noneee> hello, I would like to replace liferea with something faster... any hint?
[11:41] <prof> my internet provider (2home) as well as chello require a computername (ab123456-c)before it responds to dhcp. on the hoary version  you could enter this code during (text) install. on othter distro's you sometimes used the dhcpcd -h script but the edgy uses dhcp3 .
[11:41] <shifty> :) hey all
[11:42] <hagabaka> are entries in user crontab run when the user's not logged in?
[11:43] <alecjw> hagabaka: i htink so. crond runs as a daemon (i think)
[11:43] <surekha> What is a echo service?   Seemed to install fine - but no visual effects!!! Any ideas?
[11:44] <alecjw> hagabaka: yes
[11:45] <graulich> I have this machine here which doesn't recognize the two USB wifi dongles I have... how can I make it recognize one of them?
[11:45] <chris_shafto> anyone familiar with AntiVir?
[11:45] <alecjw> daviey: for beryl support, go to #ubuntu-xgl
[11:45] <daviey> alecjw, thanks
[11:45] <MACscr_> well, im trying to figure out if i want to install ubunto or centos on one of my pc's, so im just collecting info
[11:45] <MACscr_> im used to just centos/RH
[11:46] <alecjw> graulich: not all wireless cards owrk in linux. are the two usb things the smae?
[11:46] <surekha> What is a echo service? And is it a threat to security for web based applications? How to deactivate the service?
[11:46] <graulich> alecjw: no, the two are different.
[11:46] <chris_shafto> Anyone help with launching the AntiVir Gui?
[11:47] <alecjw> graulich: do you know what chips they have?
[11:47] <alecjw> it's very quiet in here......
[11:47] <graulich> alecjw: no, but I bet I could find out...
[11:48] <chris_shafto> how do i know antivir is running in the background?
[11:49] <alecjw> graulich: is the card listed here?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[11:49] <v_> gar
[11:49] <v_> ok, does ubuntu minimal really depend on sysklogd?
[11:49] <v_> or just system-log-daemon?
[11:50] <glyn_> how do I do a "search" for packages?
[11:50] <v_> glyn_: apt-cache search packagename
[11:50] <glyn_> I mean off the website
[11:50] <glyn_> where it gives me a description of packages
[11:50] <alecjw> glyn_: packages.ubuntu.com/PACKAGENAME
[11:50] <v_> glyn_: apt-cache show packagename
[11:50] <v_> ah
[11:50] <timephoenix> hi guys. need some help getting rid of a program which i compiled from source - I need to recompile it again but can't because the leftovers are causing problems. The program is GAIM 2.0.0beta6.
[11:52] <v_> ok it depends on sysklogd
[11:52] <v_> that's lame
[11:52] <graulich> alecjw: meh, neither is listed there
[11:52] <alecjw> graulich: awww :(...
[11:52] <NoobieDoobieDo> anyone having trouble logging into statcounter.com?
[11:52] <graulich> alecjw: oh wait I was looking at pci xD
[11:53] <chris_shafto> well if everyones ignoring me lol, how do i uninstall antivir?
[11:53] <alecjw> well, i've got to go now, graulich. if you cant find it there, try searchuing fro the name of the card in the forums (www.ubuntuforums.org). good luck! bye.
[11:53] <alecjw> *for
[11:53] <frogzoo_> timephoenix: make uninstall from the old build directory, or the new possibly
[11:54] <v_> chris_shafto: i have no clue what antivir is?
[11:54] <Spee_Der> chris_shafto, which antivir you using ?
[11:54] <chris_shafto> the linux one XD
[11:54] <shifty> clamav ?
[11:54] <mwe> chris_shafto: how did you install it?
[11:55] <chris_shafto> using terminal
[11:55] <mwe> chris_shafto: in what?
[11:55] <mwe> chris_shafto: what did you do in the terminal?
[11:56] <mwe> chris_shafto: is a .deb or did you install it with APT or what?
[11:56] <chris_shafto> ermmmm
[11:56] <chris_shafto> lol
[11:56] <chris_shafto> easier thing...how do i delete files in root?
[11:57] <mwe> files in root?
[11:57] <chris_shafto> As root delete the directories
[11:57] <ardchoille42> chris_shafto, in the root dir or in root's home?
[11:57] <chris_shafto> root dir
[11:57] <v_> j #ubuntu_devel
[11:57] <mwe> chris_shafto: sudo rm file. it's probably a bad way to unintall things, though
[11:58] <mwe> uninstall*
[11:59] <chris_shafto> I tryed to delete in the actual computer folders so how do i go to the root account so i have the permissions?
[11:59] <chris_shafto> Cannot move "/usr/lib/AntiVir" to the trash because you do not have permissions to change it or its parent folder.
[12:00] <v_> does anyone know if it will cause problems if I install two packages that provide the same meta package, ie. system-log-daemon
[12:00] <v_> i really don't know how alternatives work
[12:00] <ardchoille42> chris_shafto, If you really want to delete files in root's home dir, gksudo nautilus  but be careful with that nautilus window
[12:01] <chris_shafto> what the hell is that?
[12:01] <kraut> moin
[12:01] <toM|vendettA> hi how do i a force quit a program via the terminal?
[12:01] <mwe> chris_shafto: sudo rm -rf /usr/lib/AntiVir. doesn't it provide an uninstallation method, though?
[12:01] <hamre__> ctrl+c
[12:01] <hamre__> or killall -9 <program>
[12:01] <graulich> what's the difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[12:02] <ardchoille42> toM|vendettA, you can use xkill  or killall appname
[12:02] <mwe> graulich: aptitude keeps a way better cache
[12:02] <toM|vendettA> ty hamre__ and ardchoille42
[12:02] <graulich> and that's it, mwe?
[12:02] <Dreamglider> how do i setup ati drivers so i can use rwo screens ?
[12:02] <v_> toM|vendettA: sudo kill -9 `/bin/pidof <programname`
[12:02] <mwe> graulich: it has an ncursers interface as well.
[12:02] <ardchoille42> graulich, Are you on Dapper?
[12:02] <toM|vendettA> ty v_
[12:03] <graulich> ardchoille42: I'm on two machines here... I'm typing now on Xubuntu 6.10 and working on upgrading an Ubuntu 6.06 to 6.10...
[12:03] <graulich> mwe: what's ncursers?
[12:03] <mwe> graulich: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop will leave all of kde on your system whereas using aptitude to perform the same task will actually remove it, not just the metapackage
[12:03] <mwe> graulich: type sudo aptitude and you'll see ;)
[12:04] <mwe> graulich: it's a library for console 'gui'
[12:04] <ardchoille42> mwe, That changed with the version of apt-get in Edgy. Edgy, you can do sudo apt-get remove --auto-remove and the app will be uninstalled along with its deps provided those deps are no longer used.
[12:04] <mwe> graulich: or userinterfaces
[12:05] <Ghost> hi
[12:05] <mwe> ardchoille42: that's broken for me
[12:05] <graulich> well that's pretty cool mwe! any downside to using that g/cui?
[12:05] <ardchoille42> mwe, Oh, ok, well it shouldn't be
[12:05] <mwe> ardchoille42: it wants to remove stuff I wanna keep and it's undocumented how to tell it I wanna keep them
[12:06] <v_> man it's getting late
[12:06] <v_> time to feed the cats
[12:06] <glyn_> hey, I'm trying to use webcams on AMSN and mine is all blue, has anyone else had this problem?
[12:06] <v_> i've got to pick up the living room soon, we're having company for breakfast
[12:06] <v_> hope this works
[12:06] <mwe> graulich: no. only that you will probably be annoyed at it untill you get used to it
[12:06] <chris_shafto> its gone :D
[12:07] <mwe> ardchoille42: I avoid apt-get when I can ;)
[12:07] <stork> how does one convert a .bin/.cue file to .avi
[12:07] <graulich> mwe: can that ui be used for a distro upgrade?
[12:07] <ardchoille42> mwe, Yeah, I stopped using it a while back
[12:08] <mwe> ardchoille42: have you got any idea how to tell apt-get 'hey don't tell me it's safe to remove that! I wanna keep it'
[12:08] <mwe> graulich: I wouldn't
[12:08] <mwe> !upgrade | graulich
[12:08] <ubotu> graulich: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:08] <v_> can anyone give me a good reason for NOT having both sysklogd and syslog-ng installed on a system at once?
[12:08] <ardchoille42> mwe, I don't know. I stopped using it when I found out it left behind all those deps.
[12:09] <mwe> ardchoille42: it's annoying ;)
[12:09] <v_> rephrase, a reason why it's a bad idea
[12:09] <ardchoille42> Indeed
[12:09] <roxlu> hi all, I downloaded this theme:http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=44355, but how can I install it?
[12:09] <chris_shafto> anyone want to help me install ClamAV then ill leave you all alone lol
[12:10] <graulich> oic mwe... well it's a little funny that the cui is better for just adding a package but update-manager is better for a dist-upgrade
[12:10] <ardchoille42> roxlu, Open the theme manager and drag that tarball into it
[12:10] <roxlu> ardchoille42: I tried that... its a .bz2 file, I did bunzip2 [file]  and than dropped the .tar file in the theme manager
[12:10] <mwe> graulich: if you just change sources.list using aptitude should work
[12:11] <graulich> I'll just use update-manager and get it over with...
[12:11] <roxlu> than I get  "The file format is not valid"
[12:11] <ardchoille42> roxlu, Or you could have just unpacked it into ~/.themes since that's all the theme manager installer does anyway
[12:11] <kjaer> roxlu: untar it into .themes in your home dir
[12:11] <mwe> graulich: because of wierdness it's sometimes nessecary to run aptitude dist-upgrade twice, though
[12:11] <roxlu> oke
[12:11] <roxlu> kjaer: do I need to 're-login' after unpacking?
[12:11] <ardchoille42> roxlu, If you want that theme to be available to everyone on the system, unpackit into /usr/share/themes
[12:12] <ardchoille42> roxlu, no, just open the theme manager click the theme details button and choose it from the window border tab
[12:12] <roxlu> oe
[12:12] <roxlu> oke
[12:12] <gerhard> anyone who would like to play German "Skat" with me via xskat? join #skat
[12:12] <dw_> could someone who uses gnome upload his /etc/fonts/font.conf please? I've deleted it by accident...
[12:13] <roxlu> nice its working now, thanx !
[12:14] <zoli2k> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/~kuscsik/fonts.conf
[12:14] <ardchoille42> dw_, I can try and dcc mine to you
[12:14] <zoli2k> dw_: but this is on feisty! http://<IP_ADDRESS>/~kuscsik/fonts.conf
[12:14] <chris_shafto> anyone help with clamav?
[12:14] <zoli2k> dw_: but it should be ok,  I think
[12:15] <dw_> zoli2k thx a lot mate, i'll try it out
[12:16] <mwe> chris_shafto: are you running a mail server?
[12:16] <chris_shafto> nope lol
[12:16] <chris_shafto> just a normal pc
[12:17] <mwe> chris_shafto: I just wanna tell you I've never come ascross a linux virus on dozens of linux machines in ten years.
[12:17] <glyn_> hey I just upgraded to breezy but I'm having problems playing WMV files
[12:17] <glyn_> what do I need to do?
[12:17] <chris_shafto> better to be safe then sorry especially with my luck
[12:17] <bartbes> glyn_, why breezy? Dapper and Edgy are out
[12:17] <mwe> chris_shafto: linux viruses are extremely rare
[12:17] <glyn_> I went from Hoary to breezy
[12:18] <glyn_> I just didn't want to take the time to upgrade to Dapper yet
[12:18] <mwe> chris_shafto: in fact I have never personnaly talked to anyone who even knew someone who had one
[12:18] <bartbes> glyn_, I don't know if it's illegal there, but do you have the right codecs?
[12:19] <bartbes> glyn_, it probably works best with the xine engine
[12:19] <glyn_> It's not illegal, and I'm not sure if I have the right codecs
[12:19] <ardchoille42> illegal aint nothing but a sick bird
[12:19] <glyn_> I installed w32codecs
[12:19] <glyn_> so I should sudo apt-get install totem-xine?
[12:19] <UsernameBob> hey
[12:19] <chris_shafto> mwe: havent installed it anyhows
[12:19] <bartbes> glyn_, with which programs have you tried to play the files
[12:20] <glyn_> Mplayer
[12:20] <glyn_> that's all so far
[12:20] <nothlit> glyn_, all the progs should be able to use w32codecs
[12:20] <glyn_> mplayer just got confused
[12:20] <stork> how does one convert a .bin/.cue file to .avi
[12:20] <glyn_> don't really like mplayer
[12:20] <stork> use vlc
[12:20] <bartbes> stork, bin/cue is an image file
[12:20] <stork> it's more gui-ish
[12:20] <mwe> chris_shafto: I've unstalled antivirus programs on mail servers to protect people mainly from windows viruses
[12:21] <kontingenz> can someone tell me how to use gnome-keyring-manager managing passwords
[12:21] <hyphenated> mwe: file servers too?
[12:21] <zoli2k> stork: .bin .cue is only the extension of the image file. Try to specify what is inside the image.
[12:22] <kjaer> stork: file image.bin might give you a clue
[12:22] <bartbes> stork, you have to mount it somehow
[12:22] <mwe> hyphenated: that would make sense as well
[12:22] <mwe> gotta go ...
[12:23] <hyphenated> the network in my office is heavily linux-based, but they still run clamav on all mail and file servers
[12:23] <alvaro> hi
[12:23] <uutf> SLM
[12:23] <glyn_> for some reason when I try to get playback, I just get a bunch of weird colors and stuff
[12:23] <uutf> SLM
[12:23] <glyn_> with wmv files
[12:24] <glyn_> guess I'll try VLC
[12:24] <CoRnJuLiOx> does anyone know how to change resolutions in xmame?
[12:24] <variant> glyn_: yeah that means the wmv is infected with windows DRM, you wont be able to pl,y it on linux
[12:25] <bartbes> and that's why we don't like windows DRM
[12:25] <glyn_> damn windows DRM
[12:25] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | glyn_
[12:25] <ubotu> glyn_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:25] <rausb0> they call it "digital rights management". we call it digital restriction managment.
[12:25] <glyn_> lol sorry
[12:26] <CoRnJuLiOx> variant: do you also get no sound on DRM infected .wmvs?
[12:26] <CoRnJuLiOx> because i get that a lot..
[12:26] <variant> glyn_: if you are the rightfull owner of the files then you can leagally strip the drm with tools readilly available on the net..  if you'r country is not covered by the dmca then you can do it whether you own them or not
[12:26] <Agent_X_> but i can play wmv files on fedora nicely using wmv codecs i forgot thier name i think w32codecs or something
[12:26] <variant> CoRnJuLiOx: correct.. but you wouldn't get the video either
[12:26] <CoRnJuLiOx> yeah, i noticed when playing some WMVs
[12:26] <variant> Agent_X_: except those wmv files don't have drm
[12:26] <CoRnJuLiOx> i don't get video, but i get sound
[12:26] <variant> CoRnJuLiOx: then thats annother issue
[12:26] <variant> CoRnJuLiOx: probably
[12:27] <CoRnJuLiOx> and on others, i get video, but crappy sound (sounds like screeching nails on a chalkboard)
[12:27] <Agent_X_> aw i see
[12:27] <variant> CoRnJuLiOx: sounds like a seperate issue
[12:27] <ardchoille42> CoRnJuLiOx, I love that sound
[12:27] <CoRnJuLiOx> what could it be?
[12:27] <variant> CoRnJuLiOx: try vlc's wmv support.. it's pretty solid
[12:27] <CoRnJuLiOx> VLC?
[12:28] <aoupi> CoRnJuLiOx: http://videolan.org
[12:28] <variant> (apart from the lack of drm'd files support of course)
[12:28] <CoRnJuLiOx> i mean, playing streaming .wmvs in epiphany
[12:28] <aoupi> It got WMV9 support in 0.8.6
[12:28] <CoRnJuLiOx> via mplayer-plugin
[12:28] <jml> hello
[12:28] <chris_shafto> mwe: This might sound stupid but what exactly do i do with a .tar.bz2 folder?
[12:28] <variant> john lech johansen who made possible the stripping of drm from dvd's and who also recently cracked windows media DRM is a vlc developer..
[12:29] <variant> so probably vlc will be able to clean out the drm on non windows platforms at some point
[12:29] <rausb0> chris_shafto: .tar.bz2 is not a folder. its a compressed tar archive.
[12:29] <aoupi> chris_shafto: tar xjvf whatever.tar.bz2
[12:29] <variant> chris_shafto: it's simmilar to a .zip or .rar
[12:29] <__doc__> hi, I need dual monitor support on ubuntu 6.10. I have one single Nvidia 7950GT with two dvi out.
[12:30] <shifty> wow
[12:30] <rausb0> chris_shafto: if you plan to compile something from source, check if it is available as an ubuntu package first
[12:30] <shifty> nice graphic card :)
[12:30] <variant> __doc__: do you have the nvidia driver installed?
[12:30] <zoli2k> !xinerama
[12:30] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[12:30] <chris_shafto> once i extracted it then does it mean the program is installed?
[12:30] <__doc__> variant: yes
[12:30] <zoli2k> #ubuntu-motu | __doc__
[12:30] <variant> chris_shafto: no, if it's source code then you have to compile it
[12:30] <chris_shafto> stupid question lol
[12:30] <chris_shafto> how to compile :)
[12:30] <fremeer> hello i need some support with launching the 6.10 live cd.
[12:30] <zoli2k> !xinerama | __doc__
[12:30] <ubotu> __doc__: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[12:30] <ardchoille42> chris_shafto, Have you installed build-essential ?
[12:31] <__doc__> right, thx I'll look at it
[12:31] <variant> chris_shafto: apt-get install build-essential
[12:31] <kairu0> hey
[12:31] <CoRnJuLiOx> eek. source
[12:31] <bartbes> chris_shafto: when you have the right packages (build-essential) just type make and sudo make install
[12:31] <rausb0> chris_shafto: first question is: do you need to compile at all? which software is it?
[12:31] <variant> chris_shafto: bearing in mind that whatever application you have may need other build time librarys installed
[12:31] <jml> I've got a BCM4306 wifi card running inside a powerbook g4. I've installed bcm43xx-fwcutter and can scan for available networks. However, I cannot join my wireless network.
[12:31] <ardchoille42> chris_shafto, What are you compiling?
[12:31] <rausb0> bartbes: dont recommend compiling from source if there is a ubuntu package for it.
[12:31] <fremeer> everytime i try to run ubuntu live cd i get the error PCI:Cannot Allocate region 2 of device 0000:05:00.0 PCI:Cannot Allocate region 0 of device 0000:05:00.1
[12:31] <chris_shafto> im not compiling anything lol
[12:31] <chris_shafto> trying to install aMSN
[12:31] <chris_shafto> :D
[12:31] <CoRnJuLiOx> aMSN?
[12:32] <ardchoille42> !amsn
[12:32] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB
[12:32] <variant> chris_shafto: there is an ubuntu package for that.. just apt-get install amsn
[12:32] <ardchoille42> chris_shafto, It's in the universe repo
[12:32] <chris_shafto> i know it is lol
[12:32] <jml> I'm using network-admin to connect. It doesn't give very informative errors.
[12:32] <chris_shafto> but its old copy
[12:32] <jml> I'd like some help diagnosing the problem.
[12:32] <variant> chris_shafto: try teh backports repo
[12:32] <chris_shafto> variant: wth is that XD
[12:32] <bartbes> rausb0: He says he wants to know how, so I said it. I am not going to mix in a discussion about using repo's.
[12:33] <variant> chris_shafto: backports of later versoins of programs
[12:33] <jml> I'd also like a pony.
[12:33] <ardchoille42> jml, haha
[12:33] <variant> jml: nwadmin kinda sucks tbh
[12:33] <Tschaka> chris_shafto try the installer on: http://amsn-project.net/linux-downloads.php
[12:34] <__doc__> one other question. I'm after a virtualization software for ubuntu, I have an athlong xp 3000 so kvm is out the window and I guess kqemu isn't going to give me much speed increase over qemu. So there's also virtualbox. What would you recommend?
[12:34] <variant> __doc__: kqemu adds about 25% in my experience
[12:34] <Tschaka> __doc__ im using virtualbox, its pretty nice :]
[12:34] <jml> variant: sure. I also can't connect using 'iwconfig eth0 essid <my_essid>; dhclient eth0'
[12:34] <bartbes> __doc__: it really depends on what you're emulating
[12:34] <variant> __doc__: there is allso xen
[12:35] <variant> __doc__: and vmware of course
[12:35] <chris_shafto> tschaka: how do i  run the installer? double click nothing happens
[12:35] <variant> jml: try network-manager-gnome.. it's a different program designed to make wifi simple
[12:35] <bartbes> chris_shafto: probably you have to go to the console and type in: 'sudo sh <installer filename>'
[12:35] <variant> chris_shafto: chmod +x /path/to/installer && ./installernamehere
[12:35] <jml> variant: oh, right. my bad.
[12:36] <Tschaka> chris_shafto try it with ./whatevertheinstallersnameis or with sh whatevertheisntallersnameis (in console of course)
[12:36] <jml> when I said "network admin", I meant "network-manager-gnome"
[12:36] <jml> that doesn't work either :)
[12:36] <variant> jml: you mean nm-applet?
[12:36] <__doc__> variant: but kqemu requires installation of gcc 3.4, I find software that requires stone-old gcc suspect
[12:36] <jml> variant: right
[12:37] <Dreamglider> 6.10 is edgy rightr ?
[12:37] <gizmo_the_great1> hi. I using Ubuntu Dapper 6.06. In Firefox, when I click 'Help --> About' it says version 1.5.4. I want to upgrade to at least 1.5.9, or better still version 2. I've tried to use Synatpic package manager and it says it has updated it, but still reported as 1.5.4. I also tried 'sudo apt-get install firefox' but says I have the latest version already? What gives?
[12:37] <Dreamglider> right*
[12:37] <variant> __doc__: works for me.. and gcc is hardly stone age
[12:37] <bartbes> dreamglider: yes
[12:37] <Dreamglider> tks
[12:38] <aoupi> gizmo_the_great1: time to upgrade to edgy :)
[12:38] <jml> so, anyway, I'd like to know for sure that it's not a driver problem
[12:38] <bartbes> gizmo_the_great1: in ubuntu dapper I had 1.5.9, and 2 is (now) only for edgy
[12:38] <gizmo_the_great1> aoupi: i like the stablity of Dapper though
[12:38] <gizmo_the_great1> bartbes: how did you get 1.5.9 to install though?
[12:39] <gizmo_the_great1> bartbes: i am trying but it stays at 1.5.4
[12:39] <bef> gizmo_the_great1: You can simply install the 1.54 package and install firefox 2 from the website, no need to upgrade ubuntu if you're happy with dapper!
[12:39] <DeeTahPanLtah> i just installed ubuntu on my brand-new comp. i have gigabyte geforce 7300,is there any way to get drivers with 3d support for it? ;d
[12:40] <zoli2k> !nvidia > zoli2k
[12:40] <zoli2k> !nvidia
[12:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:40] <DeeTahPanLtah> but it's gigabyte!
[12:40] <gizmo_the_great1> bef: right - I will try that then. It is downloading now, as a tar.gz file. Hopefully it will be a deb file or something :-)
[12:40] <jeanjean> DeeTahPanLtah, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=nvidia&titlesearch=Titels
[12:40] <__doc__> variant: gcc 3.4 is stone age. ok maybe not stone age, but definitly bronze age.
[12:40] <bartbes> gizmo_the_great: aren't they in universe/multiverse/backports?
[12:41] <DeeTahPanLtah> well,are nvidia drivers compatible with gigabyte stuff?
[12:41] <TooR4u> hee i want to make my type fast ...;is there any good software to improve my typing skill......?
[12:41] <bartbes> gizmo_the_great1, do you have all the repo's checked?
[12:41] <jml> so, I don't mean to be troublesome, but this is the third time I've tried to get ubuntu working on this powerbook. I _really_ want help getting wireless going.
[12:41] <gizmo_the_great1> bartbes: i thought so - let me go and check..
[12:41] <Vigo> Did any of you see the e.mails from zdnet? does ubuntu support automatix2 ?
[12:41] <tbf> which package has the man pages for glibc?
[12:41] <bef> gizmo_the_great1: it shan't be a deb package, but it will not be difficult.. i wouldn't install firefox 2 with the repo anyway mate but that's your choice
[12:42] <jeanjean> DeeTahPanLtah, look at this, your card should be in the list: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsNvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[12:42] <aoupi> TooR4u:  apt-cache search 'typing tutor' try them
[12:43] <aoupi> jml: do you use encryption?
[12:43] <CoRnJuLiOx> hey, does videolan support streams?
[12:44] <aoupi> CoRnJuLiOx: yes, if it is a standard streaming format and not some weird one :)
[12:44] <TooR4u> aoupi, ohh 1m
[12:44] <variant> TooR4u: ktouch is awsome, i used it a few years ago to learn touch typeing.. I can type very fast now :) it will only take you a few minnits per day for a month to learn
[12:44] <jml> aoupi: not while I'm trying to get wireless cards working on ubuntu :)
[12:44] <variant> CoRnJuLiOx: yes
[12:44] <CoRnJuLiOx> aoupi: yeah, like mpeg and streaming .wmvs
[12:44] <tbf> ah... manpages
[12:44] <tbf> erm manpages-dev
[12:44] <TooR4u> variant, ohh ...
[12:45] <_3fg> can someone help me with some font troubles I'm having?
[12:45] <_3fg> I'm trying to use the "Sans" font in an application, and it isn't show up
[12:45] <_3fg> even though it's the one the OS uses
[12:46] <Vigo> Is Linux Mint an officail release?
[12:46] <aoupi> Vigo: what do you mean by official?
[12:46] <gizmo_the_great1> bartbes: i had not got all the repos checked! I did do, ages ago, but between then and now they appear to have become unchecked!! Maybe it was when I upgraded the kernel or something? Running Upgrade Manager now
[12:47] <Vigo> Is it a supported release,
[12:47] <UsernameBob> linux mint is not made by cannonical or ubuntu
[12:48] <UsernameBob> it's a different distro
[12:48] <aoupi> Vigo: it is not supported by the ubuntu folks it has no more to do with ubuntu than ubuntu has with debian
[12:48] <Vigo> Thank you
[12:48] <_3fg> I'm trying to use the "Sans" font in another application, but it isn't showing up in the list of fonts even though it's the font the OS uses.
[12:49] <_3fg> Does anyone know how/if I can make it show up?
[12:50] <bartbes> gizmo_the_great1, is it working yet?
[12:50] <_3fg> No one knows?
[12:51] <gezzabob> hi all
[12:51] <jml> This is quite frustrating. What can I do?
[12:51] <gizmo_the_great1> bartbes: mmm - nope! The Update Manager listed quite a few updates to OpenOffice and various other tools, but Firefox was not listed. I am trying to work out how to install from the website download.  Just reading the README's now
[12:51] <aoupi> jml: read this? http://joona.kuori.org/ubuntu-powerbook/#airportextreme
[12:52] <alvaro> hola
[12:52] <gezzabob> how do i show a list of users logged in on this XChat first time user of xchat :)
[12:53] <_3fg> you mean a list of all the people in the channel?
[12:53] <_3fg> that's in the bottom left, click on the thing that says 907 users
[12:53] <gizmo_the_great1> whats the command that will shjow you the content of a text file from the terminal?
[12:53] <gezzabob> yes pls a list of other people on this channel cheers
[12:53] <ardchoille42> gezzabob, It's the list to your right in XChat
[12:54] <_3fg> ardchoille42: what version of xchat do you use?
[12:54] <ardchoille42> gizmo_the_great1, cat ?
[12:54] <aoupi> gizmo_the_great1: cat file.txt or less file.txt, less gives you one page at a time, you quit less by hitting 'q'
[12:54] <gably> ook welkom
[12:54] <gezzabob> no list on right fresh install of xchat do i need to enable something
[12:54] <gably> how are you all?
[12:54] <ardchoille42> _3fg, 2.6.6
[12:54] <gably> i'm creating a server!
[12:54] <gably> Who can help me?
[12:54] <_3fg> gezzabob: click the thing that says 910 users in the bottom left
[12:54] <aoupi> gably: what kind of server?
[12:54] <jml> aoupi: I've seen similar instructions.
[12:54] <gably> webserver (lampp)
[12:54] <jml> aoupi: I'm not using WPA though
[12:54] <gably> on suse-linux
[12:55] <gezzabob> _3fg nope nothing there either
[12:55] <aoupi> gably: on suse? then you are in the wrong place :)
[12:55] <aoupi> gably: this is the ubuntu channel
[12:55] <ardchoille42> _3fg, Does the version of XChat in Edgy no longer have the user list to the right?
[12:55] <gably> I know
[12:55] <l3x> hello all
[12:55] <gably> but i dont now how to install a lampp server on ubuntu
[12:55] <ardchoille42> !lamp
[12:55] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[12:55] <gezzabob> yes im using edgy does that mean no user list ?
[12:56] <gably> Who can help me with that
[12:56] <aoupi> jml: try the forums
[12:56] <gably> I'll try
[12:56] <jml> aoupi: I tried them last time. No one responded.
[12:56] <Spee_Der> Good morning everyone.
[12:56] <jml> aoupi: I guess I will try again.
[12:56] <gizmo_the_great1> ardchoille42: aoupi: thanks, both of those work
[12:57] <gezzabob> morning Spee_Der
[12:57] <gably> what is the root password for linux?
[12:57] <gably> what is a shell?
[12:57] <Spee_Der> !shell
[12:57] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[12:57] <ardchoille42> !sudo | gably
[12:57] <l3x> lol
[12:57] <ubotu> gably: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:57] <spinax> jest ktos z polski?
[12:57] <gezzabob> there is no root password as default for root on ubuntu gably
[12:57] <aoupi> !pl | spinax
[12:57] <ubotu> spinax: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:57] <DeeTahPanLtah> i'm trying to run 3d support in my brand new comp. my problem is that i don't know whether i should use legacy driver or not...
[12:58] <gably> what is the root's password?
[12:58] <gably> who nows that?
[12:58] <gezzabob> when asked for a password in ubuntu put YOUR password in gably
[12:58] <_3fg> what's the terminal command for search?
[12:58] <ardchoille42> gably, There isn't a root password
[12:58] <gably> ohw, I know now
[12:58] <aoupi> _3fg: searching files or packages?
[12:58] <_3fg> files
[12:58] <DeeTahPanLtah> if i've got geforce 7300GT and on legacy-supported cards list there's 7300GS, does a letter really mean that much? ;D
[12:58] <aoupi> _3fg: slocate file
[12:58] <_3fg> in a directory and it's subdirectories
[12:58] <gably> OK, thankyou
[12:58] <aoupi> _3fg: run slocate -u to update the database
[12:59] <gably> I'm going to install a server now
[12:59] <gably> thankyou very mutch all
[12:59] <gably> !!!
[12:59] <gably> :)
[12:59] <gably> goodbye!
[12:59] <l3x> I'm going to compile my kernel, but i can't find my correct cpu  (sempron 3000) so what can I choose ?
[12:59] <gezzabob> bye gably
[01:00] <chris_shafto> command to execute .bin files please?
[01:00] <gezzabob> they running Ubuntu on this old 500mhz toshiba pro 4200 laptop is a tad slow lol
[01:01] <_3fg> thanks aoupi, that found it
[01:01] <bartbes> chris_shafto, .bin means nothing, but if youre sure it a binary try ./<filename> or sh <filename>
[01:01] <ardchoille42> gezzabob, You may be interested in running a window manager instead of a full desktop. Fluxbox, openbox and windowmaker are good
[01:01] <Dreamglider> synaptic says alakarte is installed, but i cannot see it in the menu anywhere. help!
[01:02] <ardchoille42> Dreamglider, right click on the menu and choose edit menus.
[01:02] <ardchoille42> Alacarte is the menu editor
[01:02] <Dreamglider> ahh thanks
[01:02] <gezzabob> do you guys think running xfce or fluxbox instead of gnome help on a toshiba satillite 4200 500mhz 128mg ram be better ?
[01:02] <ardchoille42> Dreamglider, Or you can open a terminal and run: alacarte
[01:02] <aoupi> gezzabob: try xubuntu or fluxbuntu(very beta)
[01:02] <aoupi> gezzabob: it will be much faster
[01:03] <seravitae> haha wow
[01:03] <fremeer> can i get help with installation here?
[01:03] <Dreamglider> ardchoille42, no that does not work i tried
[01:03] <ardchoille42> gezzabob, I'm not sure 128Mb ram is going to be good enough
[01:03] <gezzabob> yes ardchoille was thinking the same ..... its a toss up between xfce or fluxbox  ..
[01:03] <seravitae> no wonder ubuntu was freezing. one of my sticks of ram reported 35,000+ errors in under 30 seconds
[01:03] <aoupi> gezzabob: I used to run fluxbox on a 233Mhz 94M RAM it was actuay usable :)
[01:03] <ardchoille42> Dreamglider, nothing happens when you right click on the menus and choose "Edit Menus"? What abaout opening a terminal and running: alacarte  ?
[01:04] <Spee_Der> !ask | fremeer
[01:04] <ubotu> fremeer: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:04] <gezzabob> anyway of finding out how much ram gnome is using in total (inc all the bits that run with gnome only etc)
[01:04] <adri_> hi everybody. i'm looking for a program for watching video and which is able to add subtitles (contained in a file), can you help me please?
[01:04] <bartbes> adri_, can't xine do that?
[01:04] <ardchoille42> adri_, mplayer, xine
[01:04] <ardchoille42> bartbes, yep
[01:04] <fremeer> lol. my problem is when i try to run the live dvd i get either a freeze when doing GUI install or a PCI:Cannot Allocate region 2 of device 0000:05:00.0
[01:04] <fremeer> PCI:Cannot Allocate region 0 of device 0000:05:00.1
[01:04] <fremeer> error when doing text install
[01:05] <gezzabob> cool aoupi.....gnome on here isnt that bad but I would like to see how much ram it really uses against the like of fluxbox or fxce
[01:05] <Dreamglider> ardchoille42, no rightklick onn the menu and menu edit works, but alakarte in terminal does nothing.
[01:05] <adri_> thank you, i'm going to test those....
[01:05] <ardchoille42> Dreamglider, are you typing alakarte or alacarte?
[01:06] <gizmo_the_great1> the Mozilla Firefox website says 'to uninstall firefox on Linux delete the firefox directory' but which one? There is one in /etc/firefox and one is usr/lib/firefox, /usr/shar/firefox?
[01:06] <Dreamglider> ardchoille42,  K
[01:06] <ardchoille42> Dreamglider, it's "c" not "k"
[01:07] <ardchoille42> Dreamglider, hahaha
[01:07] <gizmo_the_great1> gezzabob: cat /proc/meminfo
[01:07] <gezzabob> anybody know how much ram gnome uses in total when running compared to kxce
[01:07] <gizmo_the_great1> gezzabob: cat /proc/meminfo
[01:07] <Dreamglider> ardchoille42, but i just instaled amsn but i cant see it in alacarte !
[01:08] <ardchoille42> Dreamglider, You may have to add it yourself. Not all apps add a menu item.
[01:08] <gezzabob> great gizmo tring that now
[01:08] <zoli2k> gizmo_the_great1: to uninstall firefox do: apt-get remove firefox
[01:08] <Dreamglider> ok thanks.
[01:08] <aoupi> gezzabob: ps aux | grep [gG] nome | awk '{ print $4 }' and add by hand :)
[01:09] <aoupi> gezzabob: but that only shows apps with gnome in their name, most are called gSomething i think
[01:10] <aoupi> (the result would be in % btw)
[01:10] <Vigo> Thank you kindly for the information.
[01:10] <gezzabob> gizmo tried that it doent give me memory used at application level also tried free -m ...looks like totalling the mem usage in system monitor for all things gmone lol that will be fun
[01:10] <Spee_Der> !3ddesktop
[01:10] <ubotu> 3ddesktop: "Three-dimensional" desktop switcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.9-5.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 448 kB
[01:11] <kontingenz> can someone advice a password manager to me?
[01:11] <ardchoille42> kontingenz, Revelation
[01:12] <gezzabob> thanks aoupi
[01:12] <Somebodyelse> jay@jay-laptop:~$ fglrxinfo
[01:12] <aoupi> gezzabob: but  you can't really compare memory usage just like that, since the linux philosophy is unused RAM is wasted RAM
[01:12] <Somebodyelse> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[01:12] <Somebodyelse> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[01:12] <Somebodyelse> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[01:12] <chris_shafto> if i want to use the make command how should i lay it out in console?
[01:12] <Somebodyelse> OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY RADEON X700 Generic
[01:12] <Somebodyelse> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6234 (8.32.5)
[01:12] <ardchoille42> kontingenz, Revelation homepage for info.. http://oss.codepoet.no/revelation/  revelation is in the repos, easy to install
[01:12] <Somebodyelse> can anybody tell me why i get an XFree86-DRI error?
[01:12] <Somebodyelse> i've disabled composite already
[01:12] <kontingenz> ardchoille42, thx. I l check out
[01:13] <kontingenz> ardchoille42, I thought I could use gnome-keyring-manager :-)
[01:13] <kharloss> hi there. i follow a tutorial  perfect ubuntu server intalation       http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.10_p5
[01:13] <kharloss> i want use now thunderbird as email client
[01:13] <ardchoille42> kontingenz, I never used that, don't know what it is.
[01:14] <kharloss> at SMTP server  i have to use my  email adress  or just user ?
[01:14] <gezzabob> true aoupi, but at least is some indication im not going to take it that seriously will run fluxbox etc and do the same mabe it will give me some indication i suppose thanks
[01:14] <kontingenz> ardchoille42, the wrong appliance
[01:14] <zoli2k> anyone tried HTB with ubuntu?
[01:14] <aoupi> gezzabob: well numbers don't say much, try fluxbox and see if it feels faster
[01:15] <aoupi> gezzabob: which it will :)
[01:16] <Somebodyelse> can anybody help?
[01:16] <gezzabob> kharloss type in sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird in a terminal Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal ... hope that helps
[01:16] <daviey> Hi, anybody here using kismet?  I am having problems finding a guide to follow
[01:17] <kharloss> gezzabob : i want use ubuntu just for email server
[01:17] <kharloss>  not client
[01:17] <Enverex> Is there a "libalsa" package or anything for Ubuntu? I'm not seeing one...
[01:17] <Enverex> khaladan, Ubuntu isn't a good choice for a server, heh
[01:17] <kharloss> gezzabob :  http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=38343
[01:17] <webben> Enverex, try apt-cache search alsa
[01:17] <Enverex> webben, I have
[01:17] <kharloss> at smtp settingsa ...  Select Use name and password and enter your Gmail username (including @gmail.com)
[01:18] <gezzabob> oh sorry kharloss thought you wanted it as just a email client not too sure how to setup email servers just yet  ....:|
[01:18] <kharloss> that`s my question   if i have to addd  @mydomain.xx   after user
[01:18] <glyn_> hey got a quick question..are there any programs besides AMSN that work with webcams and I can use my cam to talk to yahoo users?
[01:19] <gezzabob> oh yes aoupi I guess it will I was just intrested in seeing what gnome was using before i nuked it and put on something else
[01:20] <JJ_> hi all. just to let you know I got everything running I asked questions about
[01:20] <redemptateur> hello
[01:20] <JJ_> many thanks for the help, lots more needed, ill be back :-)
[01:20] <webben> Enverex, hmm I wonder if it's a kernel module
[01:20] <Enverex> webben, No, it's libraries
[01:21] <webben> Enverex, it can be compiled as a module: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml
[01:21] <webben> dunno what ubuntu does though
[01:21] <Enverex> webben, I know all about ALSA. I don't need the module, I need the libraries
[01:22] <redemptateur> hello i've installed ubuntu 6.10 and i've unmuted all my channels and i still can't record anything ... can someone help me ?
[01:22] <webben> Enverex, http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/edgy/source/alsa-lib
[01:22] <webben> looks relevant
[01:22] <gezzabob> I dont think there is much point compiling a custom kernel on ubuntu to sqeeze a bit more out on this laptop anybody think it I be waisting my time or do you thing it may make a difference ?
[01:23] <hyphenated> gezzabob: I highly doubt it. I'm fairly certain the laptop spends more of its time waiting for you than vice versa :-)
[01:24] <SeraVitae> hi um, how can I get details on my cdrom drive?
[01:24] <gezzabob> lol yer your probably right hyphenated :P
[01:24] <SeraVitae> My pc stopped booting and hung at POST before. I found i had a faulty stick of ram. I removed it, but my cdrom drive upon pressing eject froze my pc again.
[01:24] <Enverex> webben, Ah, it's under "asound" rather than "alsa", figures
[01:24] <kristjans_> how can i manage xubuntu startup programs from the terminal? i messed something up...
[01:25] <SeraVitae> I wiggled the power cable and it works now, but /dev/hda doesnt exist (i have all sata HDDs)
[01:25] <intrico> hello
[01:26] <intrico> anyone here familiar with Software Update errors?
[01:26] <intrico> specifically a post-installation script error
[01:26] <lupine_85> t's package-specific
[01:26] <lupine_85> (the solution, that is)
[01:27] <intrico> I see
[01:27] <intrico> This one is:
[01:27] <lupine_85> I generally modify the script in question so line 2 is exit 0, then remove the packag
[01:27] <intrico> E: gnome-netstatus-applet: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 134
[01:27] <gably> I need help
[01:27] <lupine_85> yeah. it means nothing to me :/
[01:27] <zoli2k> gably: ask
[01:27] <gably> what is the password of the root
[01:27] <gably> ?
[01:28] <lupine_85> doesn't exist
[01:28] <zoli2k> gably: there is no password default
[01:28] <ardchoille42> gably, We told you before, there isn't a password for root. the root account is locked.
[01:28] <lupine_85> you can get root privs using sudo
[01:28] <gably> I have a server installed, and the folder /opt/lampp/htdocs/ I cannot edit
[01:28] <redemptateur> hello i've installed ubuntu 6.10 and i've unmuted all my channels and i still can't record anything ... can someone help me ?
[01:28] <ardchoille42> !sudo | gably
[01:28] <ubotu> gably: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:28] <jake_> how can i use dph-50u ( usb adaptor for skype ) with ubuntu ??
[01:28] <lupine_85> so can set a root password using sudo passwd
[01:28] <gably> because i have nog rights
[01:28] <popuptarget> anyone have an idea as to why programs take up to 10 seconds to display?
[01:28] <zoli2k> gably: you should use "sudo" and to get root terminal sodu -i
[01:28] <zoli2k> gably: sudo -i  and your user password will give you a root terminal
[01:29] <gably> and then?
[01:29] <gably> i've done sudo -i in root terminal
[01:29] <zoli2k> gably: if you need to set root password give passwd as root.
[01:30] <gably> i've done sudo -i in root terminal, and what must I do next?
[01:30] <chris_shafto> whats the command to open root system folder with full permissions
[01:30] <chris_shafto> ?
[01:30] <ardchoille42> chris_shafto, gksudo nautilus
[01:30] <storeyzy_bio> why does passwd response so slowly when I type the wrong password?
[01:30] <zoli2k> gably:  what you want to do? your problem was that you did not get acces. as root you allready have??? so what is the problem?
[01:30] <gably> What is the pasword of root user?
[01:30] <ardchoille42> chris_shafto, But, be careful with that nautilus window
[01:30] <chris_shafto> yep i know
[01:30] <zoli2k> storeyzy_bio: security purposes
[01:31] <ardchoille42> gably, How many times do you expect us to answer the sqame question?
[01:31] <gably> my server works, but i cannot edit the files!
[01:31] <defrysk> storeyzy_bio, to make sure you wont doe it again ;p
[01:31] <archangelpetro> Where are the w32codecs stored?
[01:31] <bartbes> I want to change my fan speed
[01:31] <zoli2k> gably: as root you can not edit?
[01:31] <gezzabob> gably have you already set the root password but now forgotten it ?
[01:31] <bartbes> with lm-sensors but that doesn't work
[01:31] <gably> I do not have login on root because i cannot login
[01:31] <comp> hey guys
[01:31] <defrysk> archangelpetro, /usr/lib
[01:32] <gably> i have as username root en no password
[01:32] <zoli2k> gably:  but you have a root terminal, or not?
[01:32] <archangelpetro> defrysk, i mean from the repos.. to install them.
[01:32] <defrysk> !info w32codecs
[01:32] <gably> yes, but in a root terminal i cannot edit i think
[01:32] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (edgy-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)
[01:32] <ardchoille42> gably, I have given you a tutorial page for root sudo, you're going to have to read some things in order to make the most of Linux.
[01:32] <zoli2k> gably:  no, you think wrong
[01:32] <redemptateur> hello i've installed ubuntu 6.10 and i've unmuted all my channels and i still can't record anything ... can someone help me ?
[01:32] <gably> owh, how i can edit in the terminal then?
[01:33] <zoli2k> gably: gedit filename
[01:33] <gably> owh, allright I'll try
[01:33] <defrysk> gably, sudo nano -w /path/to/file
[01:33] <gezzabob> gably what is on the command prompt gably@blarblar $ or gably@blarblar#  in other words have you got a $ or #
[01:33] <zoli2k> gably:  or if you wanna edit a file without root terminal, only write "sude gedit /my_important_file_to_edit".
[01:34] <kokoa> hello
[01:34] <redemptateur> hello
[01:34] <defrysk> gably, as normal user without the sudo bit
[01:34] <kokoa> i have ubuntu (gnome) and want to enter the web
[01:34] <ardchoille42> gably, Do not use sudo with gedit. Use gksudo with gedit.
[01:34] <gably> I'll try
[01:34] <zoli2k> kokoa: firefox
[01:34] <kokoa> in kde desktop my Router modem work automate
[01:34] <gezzabob> I beleive it is $ for normal user and # for root user is that correct guys
[01:34] <chris_shafto> i got some stuff in my applications menu that doesnt work how do i delete um?
[01:34] <ardchoille42> zoli2k,  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[01:34] <kokoa> how i can run my network card in gnome
[01:35] <ardchoille42> gezzabob, I don't know, I've never had to use a root terminal
[01:35] <chris_shafto> as in the links
[01:35] <zoli2k> ardchoille42: what is the reason, because sude can not be used? I have seen this advice on many places, but I did not understand the reason.
[01:35] <Lunar_Lamp> gezzabob, normally, yes.
[01:35] <ardchoille42> zoli2k,  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo  <-- that explains it
[01:36] <redemptateur> hello i've installed ubuntu 6.10 and i've unmuted all my channels and i still can't record anything ... can someone help me ?
[01:36] <ardchoille42> zoli2k, Basically, it's sudo for cli apps and gksudo fpr GUI apps
[01:36] <zoli2k> ardchoille42: Ok, I see. This explains everything ;)
[01:36] <popuptarget> Chris have you tried system,preference,menu layout?
[01:36] <zoli2k> ardchoille42: sudo does not change the environment variables.
[01:36] <ardchoille42> zoli2k, I had to learn this recently too.. the hard way
[01:36] <intrico> Does anyone know if it's possible to copy stuff out of the "Update" terminal panel?
[01:36] <gezzabob> i'm sure its a # when logged into terminal as root in bash but nobody really see's that now on ubuntu with the root account disabled .... I guess never mind I was just going off on one sry
[01:37] <gably> I doesn't work
[01:37] <ardchoille42> zoli2k, sudo can change the perms on your .ICEauthority file, if it does, you're screwed for logging in
[01:37] <redemptateur> test
[01:37] <ardchoille42> passed
[01:37] <ardchoille42> :)
[01:37] <redemptateur> thanks
[01:38] <intrico> Or maybe someone might know where the info in the Update terminal panel is logged?
[01:38] <gezzabob> lol
[01:38] <intrico> I checked syslog, but the info was not logged there
[01:38] <ardchoille42> gezzabob, From what I have seen on other distros, you're right, the prompt changes
[01:39] <bartbes> I want to change my fan speed with lm-sensors, but it doesn't work, i'm using a AsRock 775Dual-VSTA
[01:39] <gably> I've changed the root account
[01:39] <gably> I'm trying out now
[01:39] <gably> goodbye
[01:39] <gably> fakkers
[01:39] <pbureau> good morning, I mount a drive (ntfs) and I can access just fine but only in read mode, I am unable to write to the drive, now the drive is a standalone network drive just in case it make a difference.
[01:39] <kokoa> how i can configure my network card
[01:39] <Flannel> !ntfs | pbureau
[01:39] <ubotu> pbureau: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:40] <kontingenz> ardchoille42, nice tool. thx
[01:40] <kokoa> i have router
[01:40] <ardchoille42> kontingenz, Revelation?
[01:40] <kontingenz> ardchoille42, yes
[01:40] <pbureau> kokoa what type of card (wired/wifi) you are trying to configure
[01:41] <kokoa> in kubuntu i dont make any thing the insternet work automatic
[01:41] <ardchoille42> kontingenz, Yeah, it's a nice one. You and I can chat in a diff channel about it if you have any q's
[01:41] <kokoa> but onlu in ubuntu (gnome) desktop
[01:41] <zombol> hi
[01:41] <Alexiel> Good morning everyone
[01:41] <zombol> is there enybody from poland?
[01:42] <Alexiel> I was wondering, would anybody be able to tell me how to get european characters (such as umlauts) to display properly in nautilus?
[01:42] <pbureau> zombol- check out the poland irc channel I think it is #ubuntu-pl
[01:42] <zombol> ok
[01:42] <gezzabob> yes pbureau like ubotu said :)
[01:42] <daviey> Hi, anybody know of a good guide to get kismet working??
[01:43] <HIGdb> hey, can you say me names of small games for ubuntu, like arkanoid
[01:43] <pbureau> gezzabob- did ubotu mention poland ?
[01:43] <pbureau> humm
[01:43] <pbureau> !kismet
[01:43] <ubotu> kismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2006.04.R1-1.1 (edgy), package size 964 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[01:43] <redemptateur> i ve solved my problem on my own
[01:43] <redemptateur> thx
[01:43] <daviey> pbureau, i know what kismet is, don't know how to config it
[01:43] <ardchoille42> Well, I just found the key combo that switches desktop.. by accident, lol
[01:43] <intrico> exit
[01:44] <pbureau> HIGdb- I would check out http://www.freshmeat.net or tucows.com for apps
[01:44] <gezzabob> ?poland no he was taking about helping you about NTFS
[01:44] <bidule> hello I just configured gaim to go on IRC and I have a message telling my nickname is not registred, what does it mean?
[01:44] <pbureau> gezzabob- ah yes.. working on that.. cheers
[01:44] <ardchoille42> HIGdb, powermanga, crack-attack, lbreakout2  <-- those are in the repos
[01:44] <gezzabob> no problem have fun :)
[01:45] <zoli2k> bidule: that you are not registered on freenode irc
[01:45] <ardchoille42> !register | bidule
[01:45] <ubotu> bidule: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:45] <bidule> ok thanks
[01:46] <gezzabob> !register | gezzabob
[01:46] <ubotu> gezzabob: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:46] <gezzabob> oh
[01:47] <ardchoille42> gezzabob, Wondering what that did?
[01:47] <Theimon> hello guys
[01:48] <pbureau> hummm... maybe I need to explain my mounting problem further, the web page assume a physically connected hdd, this is a network hard drive...
[01:48] <gezzabob> yup
[01:48] <gezzabob> like i said new to xchat / irc (been on other chats but never this)
[01:48] <erUSUL> pbureau: how are you accessing the drive? samba or nfs? i should check the configuration of the network drive
[01:49] <pbureau> okay I mount a stand alone HDD with the following command :  udo mount -t smbfs -o username=guest //storage-1d4d/PUBLIC/music /media/nwdrive , the problem is that I cannot write to it
[01:49] <pbureau> udo = sudp
[01:49] <pbureau> grrr you get it right >?
[01:50] <UberPsyX> hello, i was wondering if anyone know how to get a Mac OSX style menu bar?
[01:50] <gezzabob> I dont suppose anybody knows a quick way of getting this on my pc at work though a proxy ? when I tried earlier could'nt seem to figure it out anybody point me to the server settings ext for this channel and IRC pls
[01:51] <pbureau> UberPsyX- isnt there a theme out there to make it look like mac
[01:52] <UberPsyX> pbureau| theres a hack but i dont really get it (im fairly new to ubuntu)
[01:52] <daleg> hi all, I can't access to system-services panel  both in systemsettings and in kcontrol, can anyone help me, please?
[01:52] <wielkidzi> pl
[01:52] <gably> I've just installed my server
[01:52] <gably> and it works
[01:53] <gably> but who want to test it?
[01:53] <gably> you just have to go to a site
[01:53] <gezzabob> daleg what happens when you try system-services in gnome ?
[01:53] <erUSUL> pbureau: so you are accessing it bia smb (samba) as username guest... as i said you should check the configuration of the network drive so you can create users others than guest (that as guest should and have no privs) with write acces to the drive
[01:53] <gably> who wants to tes  my server?
[01:53] <daleg> gezzabob, I use kubuntu
[01:54] <gably> you only have to go a site
[01:54] <gably> who wants to do that
[01:54] <gably> please?
[01:54] <gably> Its not dangerous!
[01:54] <gably> please??
[01:54] <pbureau> erUSUL-  you  know let me check the admin section of the hdd station
[01:54] <abuyazan> hiall
[01:54] <gably> who wants to test my server?
[01:54] <gably> please?
[01:54] <gezzabob> oh ok well not too hot on kubuntu just yet but do you get any error messages or what happens maybe I can figure something out daleg
[01:55] <gably> only go to a site
[01:55] <abuyazan> i am running beryl on my ubuntu and i want to know how can i show the whole cube to all sides togother
[01:55] <daleg> gezzabob, with kde it says there're some problems with old modules
[01:56] <CorpseFeeder> i want to copy my entire ubuntu installation to another hard disk inside my machine. Is there a simple way to do this?
[01:56] <kaoz_> can someone help me with a networking issue?
[01:57] <Luis07> can anyone tell me the differente between "sudo -s" and "sudo su"?
[01:57] <daleg> !paste
[01:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:57] <bidule>
[01:57] <gezzabob> is your system up to date and how new is the install has it been modified eg have you had it a long time and changed loads of things daleg ?
[01:57] <erUSUL> CorpseFeeder: from a live cd, once you mounted the two partitions do (cd /source/directory && tar cf - . ) | (cd /dest/directory && tar xvfp -)
[01:58] <kaoz_> can someone help me get my windows box and my ubuntu box to share files across a network?
[01:58] <pbureau> erUSUL- the thing is this NAS nextstar HDD enclosure has username/pswrd for ftp but nothing for shared folders...
[01:58] <daleg> gezzabob, it's up-to-date, and I can't remember any new configuration
[01:59] <gezzabob> i beleive sudo -s will start a new clean root terminal with new profile and sudo su will change your current terminal to root terminal I think luis07
[01:59] <pbureau> erUSUL- and to complicate things, I can RW with windows over the network but not with linux, could it be the mount = sudo =root user account only.. when I access it through regular user it becomes only RO?
[01:59] <daleg> gezzabob, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3082/
[02:00] <Luis07> gezzabob, both give you root privileges in the terminal
[02:00] <gezzabob> kaoz please take a look at samba search for it through the forum it should point you in the right direction
[02:00] <seravitae> Hs anyone managed to get a Marvell network card working in thier system? I ran the install script and it compiles but when it gets to 'testing driver' my pc freezes.
[02:00] <popuptarget> can someone give me a hand?
[02:00] <nivekz> hi, is there anyone using vino(gnome's vnc)? I can't find proper viewer that fits it
[02:00] <pbureau> seravitae- whats the chipet of the network card ? wifi ? Wired ?
[02:00] <seravitae> wired
[02:01] <seravitae> Marvell Yukon
[02:01] <seravitae> gigabit, onboard.
[02:01] <fragged> Hey, are there any free servers that give me a console over HTTPS that will connect to a SSH server in event of a nasty firewall that blocks everything but http packets?
[02:01] <gezzabob> yes but doesnt -s start a new clean terminal and su keeps you in the original but as root ?
[02:01] <pbureau> seravitae- type lspci does it reconize it ?
[02:01] <slight> I'm trying to get some badram patterns out of memtest86+ as i know that i have a stick of ram that's partially faulty, but i need to use it for the time being. however memtest wont output the badram patterns. when i select badram error reporting it still outputs in the one line per error format... has anyone else come across this?
[02:01] <mrpurple> problem i installed linux on a new disk sata. maybe forgotting to unplug my old win ide disk.
[02:01] <popuptarget> trying to figure out why apps are loading so slowly
[02:02] <mrpurple> now if i want to restart the ide i getting a linux error ..
[02:02] <seravitae> yeah it finds it
[02:02] <gezzabob> looking now dalag seeing if I can help ...
[02:02] <pbureau> popuptarget- how much ram on your pc and how big is your swap
[02:02] <mrpurple> there is some way to fix win boot
[02:02] <abuyazan> hi there sorry for disconnection
[02:03] <abuyazan> i did not get answer about my quetion about beryl with ubuntu
[02:03] <pbureau> seravitae- whatsthe chipset?
[02:03] <seravitae> pbureau 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Unknown device 4364 (rev 12)
[02:03] <seravitae> It's a Marvell Yukon. so a marvell chipset.
[02:04] <NaPsTeR> how do i get lmms for ubuntu?
[02:04] <frafra> hi
[02:04] <frafra> does exist a control manager like yast in ubuntu?
[02:04] <ardchoille42> !lmms
[02:04] <pbureau> seravitae-  so it sees it, but its Unknown.. nothing installed, does ifconfig see it ?
[02:04] <ubotu> lmms: Linux Multimedia Studio. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 1543 kB, installed size 3784 kB
[02:04] <seravitae> ifconfig doesnt see it
[02:04] <erUSUL> pbureau: could it be, yes try sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=guest,uid=your_user,guid=users //storage-1d4d/PUBLIC/music /media/nwdrive
[02:04] <ardchoille42> NaPsTeR, Enable the universe repo, then sudo apt-get lmms
[02:04] <gezzabob> dalag sorry I cannot seem to figure out what the problem is have you had anymore luck finding out anymore yourself yet
[02:04] <tazz> i am booted from a livecd i think my kubuntu installation is corrupted, and my kubuntu partition is mounted as /media/windows/ubuntu ( ext3 ) how do i run fsck/e2fsck on it?
[02:04] <pbureau> seravitae- so need to get those drivers working..
[02:04] <seravitae> yes, i have thier drivers.
[02:04] <NaPsTeR> wats universe repo?
[02:04] <seravitae> when i install them, my pc freezes.
[02:05] <erUSUL> !univers > NaPsTeR
[02:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about univers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:05] <ardchoille42> !repos | NaPsTeR
[02:05] <ubotu> NaPsTeR: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:05] <erUSUL> !universe > NaPsTeR
[02:05] <abuyazan> thank you i got it bu chance , thanks again
[02:05] <popuptarget> pbureau 1010MB/2 GB
[02:05] <ardchoille42> erUSUL, Your idea was better :)
[02:05] <erUSUL> ardchoille42: XD
[02:05] <gezzabob> sorry I am at a bit of a loss and not much help too you about that problem delag
[02:06] <seravitae> pbureau: be right back, just doing a reboot to test something.
[02:06] <grazie> I lost sound after updating. Anybody think they can assist in sorting?
[02:06] <whyimgon1> hi where are the w32codecs at?
[02:06] <erUSUL> !seveas > whyimgon1
[02:06] <ardchoille42> erUSUL, You type too fast :X
[02:06] <ardchoille42> XD
[02:07] <pbureau> popuptarget- sorry lost that thread question, whats the issue again ?
[02:07] <Intelligitimate> I am taking Calculus with Analytic Geometry 3. I want to know if there is a freeware version of the Maple math software available for Linux, as I would like to be able to have some of the 3d objects rendered for me.
[02:07] <Intelligitimate> Well, not a freeware version per se, but a freeware alternative.
[02:07] <pbureau> Intelligitimate-  I would check http://www.freshmeat.net/
[02:07] <Yoric> mmmhhhh.....
[02:07] <fragged> Hey, are there any free servers that give me a console over HTTPS that will connect to a SSH server in event of a nasty firewall that blocks everything but http packets?
[02:07] <popuptarget> apps load very slowly
[02:07] <seravitae> pbureau: okay i'm back
[02:08] <Yoric> I'm trying to run Savage on my laptop, and failing.
[02:08] <popuptarget> ie more than 10 seconds
[02:08] <pbureau> popuptarget- ah yes..lol
[02:08] <itstaff> hi all I am new to ubuntu 6.06.1 and would like to shift to Kubuntu, how do i do?
[02:08] <ardchoille42> Intelligitimate, You can open Synaptic and do a search for math.. you might find what you need in there.
[02:08] <gezzabob> somebody msg about where the w32codes are at take a look at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[02:09] <seravitae> pbureau: the driver install script has two options. "install driver" or "create patch" as two methods of installation. install drivers freezes my machine, but create patch doesnt. it made the patch fine, but nothing in ifconfig
[02:09] <Intelligitimate> The problem with that, ardchoille42, is that there are too many things to choose from. I do not know what will satisfy my needs.
[02:09] <popuptarget> what did I screw up?  it has not always been this way
[02:09] <sharperguy> on ubuntu is it possible to get amarok to appear with my media player rather than it opening the folder?
[02:09] <ardchoille42> Intelligitimate, I see your point
[02:09] <ardchoille42> gezzabob, I believe the w32codecs are in Seveas's repo
[02:09] <pbureau> seravitae- I did a search on your type of card, the 'Unknown device 4364' in your lspci indicates missing information about the chipset, I am assuming you can read this on the card and verify you are loading the right drivers. I search google for that card with unbuntu and there is alot of chatter/blogs/bugs reporta about this type of card
[02:10] <seravitae> pbureau:  yeah most of them talk about recompiling the kernel
[02:10] <seravitae> i just went to recompile mine with the patch
[02:10] <seravitae> and 'make menuconfig' doesnt even work
[02:10] <seravitae> and now /usr/src/linux has a broken symlink to modules and firmware. :/
[02:11] <pbureau> seraphim- It does look like you need to recompile a few things to get this to work... sorry mate I can't be of more help
[02:11] <gezzabob> ok thks ardchoille42 im sure somebody on here asked about them but when i came back I could see who asked ....:S
[02:11] <pbureau> that was for seravitae
[02:11] <seravitae> that's okay
[02:11] <ardchoille42> !seveas | gezzabob
[02:11] <ubotu> gezzabob: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:11] <itstaff> SORRY HAD BEEN DISCONNECTED hi all I am new to ubuntu 6.06.1 and would like to shift to Kubuntu, how do i do?
[02:12] <frafra> excuseme, does exist a control manager like yast in ubuntu?
[02:12] <slight> itstaff, install the kubuntu_desktop package
[02:12] <ardchoille42> itstaff, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  that will get KDE installed for you
[02:12] <slight> itstaff, kubuntu-desktop rather
[02:12] <gezzabob> what was that ! seveas and 3rd party stuff that just shown up for me ?
[02:13] <gezzabob> checking it out ???
[02:13] <ardchoille42> gezzabob, That was info on the Seveas repo. G to the webpage and read about settin git up.
[02:13] <itstaff> thanks everyone
[02:13] <gezzabob> yes just looking at the page no waiting for it to load
[02:14] <CorpseFeeder> I'm trying to copy my ubuntu installation from one hard disk to another. I am now booted off a live CD. How do I mount the hard disks so that I can do (cd /source && tar cf-.) | (cd /destination && tar xvfp-) as suggested by someone a few moments ago... ?
[02:14] <grazie> frafra: synaptic and another application (but I can't remember the name right now)
[02:14] <frafra> grazie, ok
[02:14] <gezzabob> oh i c cheers will bookmark and look into that later I think them be what I was looking for
[02:15] <ardchoille42> gezzabob, :)
[02:16] <gezzabob> excellent y oh y i didnt join this channel / irc a loooong time ago
[02:16] <popuptarget> pburea why did you laugh earlier?
[02:16] <ar2k7> how do you install the latest flashplayer for firefox?
[02:17] <BlueEagle> I am attempting to downgrade php5-cgi in order to get aokex to work correctly. Where can I find a list of previously availible packages?
[02:17] <pbureau> ar2k7- hum click on tools then add-on ?
[02:18] <ardchoille42> ar2k7, I installed it from this page: https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/plugins/
[02:18] <pbureau> popuptarget- because I am old and I loose track of conversations...
[02:18] <pbureau> popuptarget- and I dont know why 10secs load time on an app is an issue but eh!
[02:18] <gezzabob> well people I gota go off out now but it has been great Ill be back on here as soon as I can looking forward too it  .... haved a good day all of you /.... :D
[02:18] <CorpseFeeder> how do I mount hard disks from a live cd?
[02:19] <ardchoille42> gezzabob, Take care :)
[02:19] <popuptarget> Ahh.  Oh and I am young and impatient
[02:19] <ar2k7> ardchoille42, thanks
[02:19] <popuptarget> lol
[02:19] <ardchoille42> popuptarget, And honest? lol
[02:19] <BlueEagle> imo 10 seconds is a long time to wait. :)
[02:19] <babo> is there any ready made disk label I can download and burn onto my ubuntu iso disks ?
[02:19] <pbureau> CorpseFeeder- so you boot the live cd and your trying to access the hdd in your pc ?
[02:20] <gezzabob> cheers erm when I connect again will I be loaded into this channel again ? not too sure yet how this xchat works like I said I is a virgin on xchat lol
[02:20] <pbureau> BlueEagle- lol considering I started on computers with 1.88hz speed and 8kb ram .. 10seconds give me plenty of time to light my cigar  :)
[02:20] <ardchoille42> gezzabob, You connect to the freenode network and then /join #ubuntu
[02:20] <popuptarget> right B_E but enough time to go and get a drink
[02:20] <ar2k7> ardchoille42, it says linux version 7 and 9 for win, mac =/
[02:20] <zak_> pbureau: of course 10 seconds of load time is an issue... that's ridiculous...
[02:21] <gezzabob> yes thought so thanks you;ve been great chat soon bye for now goto go now......
[02:21] <pbureau> okay okay dont y'all get evil on me...
[02:21] <ardchoille42> ar2k7, Yes, but when you click on the Linux link, you will be taken to a page that will download version 9.. I guess someone never updated that page.
[02:21] <CorpseFeeder> pbureau: yeah somehting like that
[02:21] <fragged> where can I find a list of software on the Ubuntu CD's?
[02:22] <ardchoille42> ar2k7,  http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[02:22] <pbureau> CorpseFeeder- something like that ie : trying to access a hdd on a pc booted wtih linux cd ? or something else...
[02:22] <popuptarget> any Ideas that I can take a look at?
[02:22] <Devi1ish> Hi all
[02:22] <Devi1ish> can anyone tell me how to mount my windows partitions using the CD boot of Ubuntu?
[02:23] <pbureau> !mount
[02:23] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[02:23] <zak_> about time i reboot... i've been using hibernate [at least]  every day for 11 days without a real reboot, or even logging out of gnome, and things are starting to get slow
[02:23] <ar2k7> ardchoille42, ty
[02:23] <ardchoille42> zak_, Then you have an app with a memory leak
[02:23] <ardchoille42> ar2k7, yw
[02:23] <tmdca> Hello lads. I got a MacBook witch i plan to install ubuntu on. how do i make it boot from the cd? it dosn't work holding down c when it stars.. please help a girl ^^
[02:24] <CorpseFeeder> pbureau: I have ubuntu 6.10 installed on a hard disk sda1 and I want to copy that installation to another hard drive (hda1). I am currently booted off a live CD.
[02:24] <frogzoo> tmdca: you need to go into bios & change the boot order - move cdrom to the top, save & restart
[02:24] <tmdca> frogzoo: it's a mac. how do i do that+
[02:24] <seravitae> Heh.
[02:24] <pbureau> chuckles, I dont think there is a bios menu on a mac is there ?
[02:25] <grazie> tmdca: Did you verify the md5 sum?
[02:25] <tmdca> yes, the cd is correct
[02:25] <zak_> ardchoille42: there's no one thing taking up a lot of memory - except for firefox, but that's usual, and it's been restarted lots [as usual :)] ... i'm no fan of large C applications, so i'll just assume the entirity of Gnome is riddled with small memory leaks :)
[02:25] <pbureau> tmdca- I know this is going to be a dumb question perhaps but I have seen it done, did you burn the iso for mac ?
[02:25] <tmdca> there is no boot menu on a mac! i spent the last night trying to figure it out...
[02:25] <ardchoille42> zak_, Actually, firefox is quite leaky
[02:26] <seravitae> Can anyone help me compile my kernel? this is what i get: http://pastebin.com/868646
[02:26] <tmdca> no i did that from a windows-computer
[02:26] <grazie> tmdca: no bios on mac so ignore that comment
[02:26] <Mba7eth> hi all .... guys i have ask this Questions many time but no answer ?!!?! is there an expert who can guide me to solve my problem ?
[02:26] <zak_> ardchoille42: seems to get worse with each release, too :s
[02:26] <frogzoo> tmdca: well I know it's possible, not sure how
[02:26] <ardchoille42> zak_, lol, yeah I know
[02:26] <CorpseFeeder> pbureau, i have a gparted CD.. will I be able to use that to copy the ubuntu installation from one hard disk to the other? Will the computer know to boot from the right hard disk or will it still boot from the old hard disk?
[02:26] <ardchoille42> No BIOS menu on a MAC? That sucks out loud.
[02:26] <fragged> hmm, is there a difference between ubuntu deskop and ubuntu server?
[02:27] <zak_> Mba7eth, just ask, and someone will, with a little luck, help
[02:27] <ardchoille42> fragged, server has no GUI, desktop has the gnome desktop environment.
[02:27] <frogzoo> tmdca: how do you know there's no bios menu - mebbe you just the right key combo to open it?
[02:27] <asfalt> i have two hdd's, one formatted with / and /swap and the other as /driveb , ubuntu is already installed, can i convert "/" to span both disks ala LVM or is this something I need to do during the installation partitioning?
[02:27] <frogzoo> tmdca: alt f4 ?
[02:27] <Mba7eth> i want to play to sound files at the same time with two different applications ( i.e. VLC , Realplayer)
[02:27] <Mba7eth> ?
[02:27] <grazie> ardchoille42: ppc mac has openfirmware - much better
[02:28] <tmdca> frogzoo: it feels like i tried everything. i tryeid about 10 kinds of key combos
[02:28] <TooR4u> how to make flash files in linux?
[02:28] <TooR4u> is it possible...?
[02:29] <grazie> tmdca: can you boot an os x disk?
[02:29] <popuptarget> zak_  what can one do to speed up
[02:29] <nothlit> macs have even better booting, they don't even need a bootloader
[02:29] <tmdca> yes, there is macodx on it now
[02:29] <zak_> popuptarget: .. to speed up what?
[02:29] <Mba7eth> anyone anyhelp :(............ ??
[02:30] <asfalt> Mba7eth what's the problem?
[02:30] <Yoric> I'm having trouble running Savage under Ubuntu.
[02:30] <Yoric> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/868634
[02:30] <Yoric> Any idea ?
[02:30] <Mba7eth> i want to play to sound files at the same time with two different applications ( i.e. VLC , Realplayer)
[02:30] <grazie> tmdca: yes, but can you boot the os x cd/dvd by holding down c on boot?
[02:30] <asfalt> Mba7eth what happens when you try now? error message?
[02:30] <Mba7eth> asfalt : thanks in advance :)
[02:30] <popuptarget> Zak_  I hibernate daily and also shut down daily.  I just notice that apps and the enviro is slowing down
[02:31] <Mba7eth> asfalt: yeah it says that another application is using the sound , can't be played
[02:31] <tmdca> dont know, only tried only the diagnostic cd
[02:32] <grazie> tmdca: if that works - good. There is a good alternative way to boot a cd...but it esacpes me right now...let me think
[02:33] <tmdca> grazie: thanks a lot. =)
[02:35] <ticki> hi, good morning. can anybody tell me how to update $PATH ?
[02:36] <ticki> i want this change to be permanent
[02:36] <grazie> tmdca: try some the options here http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20050311073316780 abd get back to us
[02:36] <CyberCod> morning people
[02:37] <frogzoo> ticki: for global PATH /etc/environment
[02:39] <ticki> and only for one user?
[02:39] <ticki> fogzoo
[02:39] <ticki> frogzoo: and only for one user?
[02:40] <frogzoo> ticki: there I think you'll need to modify it in ~/.gnomerc
[02:41] <pengulord> whos going to world of wheels this weekend
[02:41] <pbureau> world of wheels ?
[02:41] <pengulord> carshow
[02:42] <Windkracht8> Hello all, can anyone tell me which script actually starts gdm?
[02:42] <ticki> frogzoo: and how do i update PATH? PATH=:"~/something" ?
[02:42] <pbureau> you realize this channel is pretty much world wide so, your being vague...lol
[02:42] <riotkittie> erm.
[02:42] <frogzoo> !offtopic | pengulord
[02:42] <ubotu> pengulord: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:42] <ticki> frogzoo: or PATH=PATH+":~/something" ?
[02:43] <frogzoo> sure, whatever
[02:43] <ardchoille42> !path
[02:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about path - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:43] <ticki> frogzoo: the question is. how do you concatenate
[02:43] <frogzoo> ticki: man bash
[02:44] <kaoz> can someone help me get my network setup?
[02:44] <pbureau> kaoz- what kind of card ?
[02:44] <kaoz> i am trying to share files between ubuntu dapper and winxp
[02:44] <IdleOne> !samba | kaoz
[02:44] <ubotu> kaoz: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:44] <pbureau> kaoz- ignore previous question,  you need samba
[02:44] <kaoz> i have the network settins done on both machines.... i just need to know how to setup a network neighboorhood
[02:44] <kaoz> i installed sambe
[02:44] <kaoz> samba*
[02:44] <Freenet> hi
[02:45] <Freenet> !msg the bot
[02:45] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:45] <Plow> lol
[02:45] <ardchoille42> netsplit!
[02:45] <pbureau> kaoz- do you use gnome ?
[02:46] <kaoz> yes
[02:46] <kaoz> i dont have kde installed
[02:46] <Freenet> hiu
[02:46] <Windkracht8> nobody knows which script starts gdm?
[02:46] <Freenet> !msg the bot
[02:46] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:46] <TooR4u> Windkracht8, i know how to start gdm
[02:46] <webmaren> my software update is frozen, what should I do
[02:46] <pbureau> kaoz- try this ; places - network server - browse around and see if you can see the MSnetwork / Shared system
[02:47] <IdleOne> webmaren: frozen how?
[02:47] <kaoz> well when i open that i see Windows Network but when i click it there is nothing here
[02:47] <Windkracht8> Toor4u, I want to insert an script to choose the layout before gdm is started, where do I need to insert it?
[02:47] <webmaren> IdleOne: not responding to anything, but the rest of my system is fine
[02:47] <kaoz> like my xp machine is hidden
[02:47] <pbureau> kaoz- have you shared the other machine ?
[02:47] <IdleOne> webmaren: how long as it been idle?
[02:47] <Windkracht8> Toor4u, I've got 3 layouts in xorg.conf for single/dual monitor
[02:47] <kaoz> yes i have a folder on that machine that is permanently shared
[02:48] <kaoz> is there anything else i need to do to the winxp box so ubuntu sees it?
[02:48] <webmaren> IdleOne: now about like 2 minutes
[02:48] <pbureau> kaoz- can you ping the box in question ?
[02:48] <Freenet> !msg the bot
[02:48] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:48] <webmaren> it's sleeping
[02:48] <TooR4u> Windkracht8, i dont know about it ..... /etc/gdm start (or) restart
[02:48] <DeannaTheGeek> morning!
[02:48] <Freenet> !bot
[02:48] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:48] <recon> is it just me or was there just a huge join?
[02:48] <kaoz> yes i can ping from ubuntu to winxp and vice versa
[02:49] <webmaren> i can move the window
[02:49] <Freenet> zaggynl: hello re u there?
[02:49] <IdleOne> webmaren: be patient it is probably configuring some updates and it will come back...I just did an update and there was 10 things to update took about 7-10 minutes
[02:49] <Zaggynl> Freenet, yup
[02:49] <Freenet> zaggynl:how're u?
[02:49] <Zaggynl> Good, thanks
[02:49] <webmaren> okay
[02:49] <DeannaTheGeek> do we have any soundcard gurus in here this morning?
[02:50] <name> how do i get "gtk-config"?
[02:50] <kaoz> oh and how can i keep firefox or any other internet program from using my network connection to look for the internet?
[02:50] <ubuntu> hi
[02:50] <pbureau> kaoz- so you click on your network you see the 'mshome' style group ? and then nothing ?
[02:50] <IdleOne> webmaren: if it takes any long then 10 minutes I guess you can kill the process but you might be left with broken packages
[02:50] <pbureau> kaoz- turned eth0 off (grin)
[02:50] <TooR4u> why the linux has no support to make flash files(.swf)..?
[02:51] <kaoz> no i go to Places - Network Servers -  Windows Network
[02:51] <Freenet> zaggynl:i asked you!!?
[02:51] <TooR4u> is it possible to make flash files in my box?
[02:51] <Zaggynl> Freenet, what?
[02:51] <kaoz> how do i turn off eth0 and still be able to use my network?
[02:51] <pbureau> kaoz- I was teasing...
[02:51] <kaoz> oh hehe
[02:51] <foutrelis> !ifdown
[02:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ifdown - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:51] <pbureau> kaoz-  so in windows network you dont see the group show up ?
[02:51] <Freenet> zaggynl :ok i ve finished dowloading ubuntu via bittorent so what i should do after that?
[02:51] <kaoz> nope nothing under windows network
[02:52] <kaoz> gonna reenable eth0 if it disconnects me ill brb
[02:52] <Zaggynl> Freenet, burn the image file to a cd
[02:52] <Zaggynl> Freenet, if you use Nero, use 'Burn Image'
[02:52] <Freenet> i wont exctract it?
[02:52] <IdleOne> Freenet: no
[02:52] <Borzen__> Hay i have a brand new HDD and can i put a NTFS on one partition and a different type on another partition?
[02:53] <pbureau> Borzen__- yep
[02:53] <IdleOne> Freenet: the iso file is bootable so you just burn image to cd and then put it in the tray and reboot
[02:53] <dwhsix> is there any way to see my CPU archicture (e.g. Pentium, etc) thru Ubuntu?  I don't remember what I have :-)
[02:53] <Borzen__> Thanks finaly ubuntu no more, well still for DX10, Windows XP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:53] <Freenet> ok thanks!
[02:53] <dwhsix> Device Manager just says "unknown"
[02:53] <bXi> dwhsix: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:54] <Freenet> so in the set up tehers no difficulties?
[02:54] <dwhsix> bXi: bingo, thanks
[02:54] <IdleOne> Freenet: it is very user friendly
[02:54] <bXi> no problem
[02:55] <Freenet> so automatic no need to be expert,because im newbie !
[02:55] <IdleOne> Freenet: after you boot to cd you will run ubuntu and on the desktop there will be a install icon ( to install ubuntu to the HD )so you can actually run ubuntu from the cd
[02:55] <CyberCod> !tvout
[02:55] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[02:56] <CyberCod> !ntfs-3g
[02:56] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[02:56] <ardchoille42> CyberCod, Wow, I'm surprised the bot had that factoid.
[02:56] <DeannaTheGeek> can anyone help me with a soundcard problem?
[02:56] <IdleOne> Freenet: Ubuntu loves Newbies :)
[02:56] <Freenet> !msg the bot >cyberCod
[02:56] <Freenet> lol IdleOne:)
[02:57] <CyberCod> sorry, been up 26 hours
[02:57] <CyberCod> not thinkin
[02:57] <CyberCod> sorry, 28 hours
[02:57] <CyberCod> ugh
[02:58] <IdleOne> webmaren: update finished?
[02:58] <pbureau> DeannaTheGeek- describe the problem instead of asking if someone can help you
[02:59] <Freenet> CyberCod you could ask the bot what you want in the private window
[02:59] <webmaren> IdleOne: I ended the process and restarted the updates, they're installing now
[02:59] <nothlit> ardchoille42, the ntfs-3g factoid has been around for a while lol :P
[03:00] <pbureau> good morning, I mount a drive (ntfs) and I can access just fine but only in read mode, I am unable to write to the drive, now the drive is a standalone network drive just in case it make a difference.
[03:00] <CyberCod> freenet, i know, i just wasn't thinking about it
[03:01] <CyberCod> !ntfs-3g | pbureau
[03:01] <ubotu> pbureau: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:01] <IdleOne> !ntfs > pbureau
[03:02] <webmaren> alright looks good now
[03:02] <pbureau> man you guys keep passing this info on me, but your not paying attention to the details of the question, this is not a physical hdd on the machine, this is a network (using samba) drive.. the mount options is smbfs not ntfs
[03:03] <IdleOne> pbureau: all good but the drive is ntfs and you cannot write to it without risk of losing data
[03:04] <pbureau> IdleOne- now there is an answer I can accept
[03:04] <nothlit> pbureau, its a NAS?
[03:04] <pbureau> nothlit- yep
[03:04] <nothlit> pbureau, you need to add uid or gid to your mount options
[03:04] <nothlit> either the number, or the name
[03:04] <trymmi> Where can I get additional codecs for Mplayer?
[03:04] <lukus001> Can someone help me please?      I select linux but it says it cant mount it....
[03:05] <nothlit> uid=1000,gid=1000, or something like uid=pbureau
[03:05] <IdleOne> !mp3 | trymmi
[03:05] <ubotu> trymmi: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:05] <IdleOne> !dvd > trymmi
[03:05] <pbureau> nothlit- so my command line is sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=guest //storage-1d4d/PUBLIC/music /media/nwdrive so remove username=guest and add uid where ?
[03:06] <nothlit> oh
[03:06] <IdleOne> !grub > lukus001
[03:06] <nothlit> ok this is my line -o guest,uid=1000
[03:06] <nox-Hand> Anyone know of a full screen cool visual stuff generator? A bit like electric sheep, just withut having to download all the time
[03:06] <lukus001> thanks idleone <3
[03:06] <IdleOne> np
[03:07] <ubuntu> help please
[03:07] <ubuntu> i cannot write on usb hdd
[03:07] <ubuntu> mv: cannot create regular file `/media/Rok-c/drek.txt.save': Read-only file system
[03:07] <nothlit> rofl
[03:07] <pbureau> so it should look like sudo mount -t smbfs -o guest,uid=1000 //storage-1d4d/PUBLIC/music /media/nwdrive?
[03:07] <IdleOne> nothlit: somone really needs to fix the ntfs writing issue :)
[03:08] <nothlit> pbureau, no, take out the music section
[03:08] <nothlit> IdleOne, theres no issue
[03:08] <riotkittie> ubuntu: what file system?
[03:08] <nothlit> IdleOne, works fine
[03:08] <nothlit> pbureau, you can only mount shares
[03:08] <frogzoo> IdleOne: not as easy as just saying someone needs to fix it
[03:08] <pbureau> so it should look like sudo mount -t smbfs -o guest,uid=1000 //storage-1d4d/PUBLIC /media/nwdrive?
[03:08] <nothlit> pbureau, the music folder will automatically be created in nwdrive
[03:08] <IdleOne> frogzoo: I know
[03:08] <nothlit> thats how transparently mounting works
[03:09] <nothlit> pbureau, ehm, sure... i usually add the options at the end and leave out -t smbfs, but it should work
[03:09] <nothlit> pbureau, if you're the first user
[03:09] <pbureau> nothlit- not really, used to play around with slackware,
[03:09] <ubuntu> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //storage-1d4d/PUBLIC/Desktop,
[03:09] <ubuntu>        missing codepage or other error
[03:09] <ubuntu>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[03:09] <ubuntu>        dmesg | tail  or so
[03:09] <pbureau> yes I am the only user
[03:09] <pbureau> nothlit- how car=n I check the uid ?
[03:10] <IdleOne> car=n <<<< now thats a typo
[03:10] <IdleOne> :P
[03:10] <pbureau> yep the = is right next to the backspace on my laptop keyboard
[03:10] <riotkittie> evil laptop keyboards  :D
[03:10] <bef> = is right next to backspace on most keyboards ;)
[03:11] <riotkittie> my = = ]
[03:11] <DeannaTheGeek> can anyone help me?
[03:11] <DeannaTheGeek> my sound card isn't working
[03:11] <nothlit> pbureau, sudo smbmount //storage-1d4d/PUBLIC /media/nwdrive -o guest,uid=pbureau (or whatever your username is)
[03:11] <IdleOne> DeannaTheGeek: does it have a job? and you need to be more specific then it isnt working
[03:12] <pbureau> nothlit- okay now how do I unmount that drive, currently I have to shut down pc, it refuses to unmount it
[03:12] <xopher> how do I get rid of the pw-nagging with network-manager?
[03:12] <riotkittie> DeannaTheGeek: has the card ever worked ? if so, have you checked things like mute ?
[03:12] <DeannaTheGeek> specifics-compaq persario 1200us, edubutu OS (dapper drake), and my sound card was installed, but no sound came out)
[03:13] <rvalles> I'm trying to build ati fglrx drivers without much luck
[03:13] <rvalles> ubuntu 6.10, x86-64, linux 2.6.20-rc6
[03:13] <DeannaTheGeek> I worked with crimsun in the edubuntu channel, and no my drivers are uninstalled, and I don't know how to reinstall them
[03:13] <DeannaTheGeek> I'm a linux noobie
[03:13] <rvalles> what can I do to make this work?
[03:13] <nothlit> pbureau, sudo umount -f /media/nwdrive
[03:14] <IdleOne> !ati > rvalles
[03:14] <nothlit> pbureau, make sure you have cd-ed out of that complete area
[03:14] <pbureau> nothlit- cd-ed ?
[03:14] <nothlit> pbureau, and shut down anything that may have been accessing it, and getting filebrowsers the heck out of there
[03:14] <giga> sudo insert penile module -r -o now!
[03:14] <pbureau> nothlit- ah yes
[03:14] <nothlit> cd, change directory
[03:14] <giga> sudo insert penile module -r -o now!
[03:14] <giga> sudo insert penile module -r -o now!
[03:14] <giga> sudo insert penile module -r -o now!
[03:14] <giga> sudo insert penile module -r -o now!
[03:14] <giga> sudo insert penile module -r -o now!
[03:14] <giga> sudo insert penile module -r -o now!
[03:14] <nothlit> anyways shutting down should force unmount it for you
[03:14] <giga> sudo insert penile module -r -o now!
[03:14] <IdleOne> !ops
[03:14] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[03:14] <giga> sudo insert penile module -r -o now!
[03:15] <giga> sudo insert penile module -r -o now!
[03:15] <giga> sudo insert penile module -r -o now!
[03:15] <giga> sudo insert penile module -r -o now!
[03:15] <frogzoo> giga: dude, they ban for that shihz
[03:15] <giga> sudo insert penile module -r -o now!
[03:15] <nothlit> !ops
[03:15] <nothlit> sigh
[03:15] <JosefK> adding a folder named 'UnitTest' to a MonoDevelop project crashes it :/ *cries*
[03:15] <nothlit> pbureau, shutting down would also close any apps that may have been in that directory
[03:15] <nothlit> You're using mono :P
[03:16] <rvalles> IdleOne: that doesn't help much
[03:16] <JosefK> nothlit, pfft, so does beagle ^^
[03:16] <rvalles> IdleOne: since I have to use a newer kernel than ubuntu's
[03:16] <rvalles> IdleOne: for my wireless to work, I also need to build the fglrx on my own :/
[03:16] <IdleOne> rvalles: I dont know about ati just know about the fatcoid sorry. thought it might help you
[03:17] <nothlit> JosefK, who said i was using beagle?
[03:17] <JosefK> nobody, just an example of mono's success :)
[03:18] <rvalles> IdleOne: http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=566
[03:18] <rvalles> this is what I am getting :/
[03:18] <trymmi> IdleOne: That didn't help me much. Because i couldnt find a plugin called totem-xine-firefox-plugin Or totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin
[03:18] <sharperguy> in amarok whats the difference between put tracks in playlist  and queue tracks?
[03:19] <devilsadvocate> sharperguy, i think the first one removes the current playlist
[03:19] <sharperguy> ah ok,
[03:20] <IdleOne> trymmi: you need the codecs right? try !codecs or /msg ubotu codecs
[03:20] <ecastro> hi! I have (at least i think so) a simple question. I have installed winxp in a partition and i had before this ubuntu installed (and i still have it, i didnt delete the ubuntu partition). But now i only get to boot to winxp (no more grub boot manager). So i try to remove the "boot" flag of the winxp partition and set it back to the ubuntu's one, but i get an error at boot time. So, my question is how can i boot up my ubuntu partition if the
[03:21] <lupine_85> !MBR
[03:21] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:21] <lupine_85> ^^
[03:21] <storeyzy_bio> MBR
[03:21] <storeyzy_bio> !MBR
[03:21] <trymmi> idleone: What do you mean? I'm not good with irc
[03:22] <storeyzy_bio> ubuntu should allow the user to install Grub to linux partition
[03:22] <DeannaTheGeek> hello?
[03:22] <IdleOne> trymmi: type /msg ubotu codecs it will open a private chat with ubotu and it will give you the info for installing the codecs you probably need
[03:22] <ad_> ##windows
[03:22] <adaptr> test failed
[03:23] <storeyzy_bio> instead of installing Grub to MBR
[03:23] <TheGateKeeper> anyone in here program the bot?
[03:24] <name> how do i get "gtk-config"?
[03:24] <storeyzy_bio> ecastro, you can use NTLDR to load ubuntu
[03:24] <name> the binary
[03:24] <woomi> hello
[03:24] <storeyzy_bio> ecastro, search dual boot ubuntu windows xp
[03:24] <storeyzy_bio> dual boot ubuntu windows xp ntldr
[03:25] <IdleOne> !dualboot > ecastro
[03:26] <JiZZhorse> In 1876, a young girl named Jenn was walking down a river, an insane man killed her by stabbing her in the back, raping her, and then hanging her in his closet. While he hanged her he said Bukakke Bukkake.
[03:26] <JiZZhorse> Now that you have read this message, she will find you and her dead body will haunt your house for 5 years. Every night you go to sleep she will appear in your closet, hanging their with her glowing red eyes.
[03:26] <JiZZhorse> repost 3 times to be saved
[03:26] <ad_> i didn't know dual boot needed help
[03:26] <aoupi> !ops
[03:26] <ubotu> Help!  While he hanged her he said Bukakke Bukkake.
[03:26] <JiZZhorse> Now that you have read this message, she will find you and her dead body will haunt your house for 5 years.  While he hanged her he said Bukakke Bukkake.
[03:26] <JiZZhorse> Now that you have read this message, she will find you and her dead body will haunt your house for 5 years.  While he hanged her he said Bukakke Bukkake.
[03:26] <JiZZhorse> Now that you have read this message, she will find you and her dead body will haunt your house for 5 years.  But after creation of a new image when I hit start it just sits there at 0% saying "starting remote session"
[03:28] <Mez> cheers nalioth
[03:28] <Vandalay> say what horse
[03:29] <IdleOne> that was retarded
[03:29] <Vandalay> seek help
[03:29] <covOPprometheus> can anyone tell me how I can make that files of a folder are chmoded automtically upon creation, or how I can control that a program run by su writes files with permisions for everyone?
[03:29] <Mez> IdleOne, I always read that with a space after the third letter
[03:30] <lukus001> idleone, that grub link didnt fix the problem.   it still sayd unable to mount drive when i try booting my linux os
[03:30] <IdleOne> Mez: seems you may need a therapist also
[03:30] <IdleOne> :P
[03:31] <__doc__> virtualbox doesn't work, should I now try qemu?
[03:31] <IdleOne> lukus001:  I have never had problems with grub because I dont use windows. perhaps someone else can help you more describe your issue again with relevant info
[03:32] <storeyzy_bio> i think he overwrite the MBR when he installed windows
[03:32] <storeyzy_bio> that's why he can't boot into linux
[03:32] <Vandalay> with dual boot install xp first
[03:32] <Vandalay> or remove the xp-disk from ide
[03:32] <IdleOne> storeyzy_bio: probably and now needs to reinstall grub but I have never done that before
[03:33] <storeyzy_bio> i suggest reinstalling if you don't have important data on your harddisk
[03:33] <lukus001> Story, possibly.   I had windows already install but I just reinstalled over the top again.  Linux and windows are on differernt hard drive, if i boot my linux HD, grub loads : if i select linux from the list of OS it say unable to mount drive
[03:33] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, when you boot, it goes into grub?
[03:33] <devilsadvocate> automatically?
[03:34] <lukus001> devil, if im booting from that HD, yes.  like it always used to do there are about 5 option for linux and then windows was on the bottom
[03:34] <chamo_> hello
[03:34] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, how do you select which hard drive to boot from?
[03:34] <lukus001> Bios
[03:35] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, is there any particualr reason you are changing those in the bios?
[03:35] <Arcad3> cam someone paste me a example command of compiling with prefix..
[03:35] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> I need help with removing islsm_usb... what is it? where is it? is it something i delete or something i apt-get-uninstalls?
[03:35] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, seleting the windows hard drive boots you directly into windows?
[03:36] <chamo_> I have a question. I cannot find a way to launch a script _in a console_ (need to be opened), after login.
[03:36] <bulmer> Arcad3: compiling? in C maybe you need to visit the C channel? or java if its java?
[03:36] <lukus001> Devil, I window hd does load windows directly, yes
[03:36] <Arcad3>   UbuntuN00B_HBG: apt-get remove islsm_usb
[03:36] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, do you have a separate grub partition by any chance?
[03:36] <chamo_> Arcad3: what do you want to do exactly ?
[03:37] <chamo_> Arcad3: like :     gcc -c myfile.c myfile2.c -Wall
[03:37] <chamo_> ?
[03:37] <Arcad3> compile a c code in a directory defined by me
[03:37] <pro1> hi, I have a problem with my mouse pointer in a dual head environment (ati 9600XT readon)
[03:37] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, did you add a second hard drive, or change the master / slave settings?
[03:37] <lukus001> devil, i've really dont know.  I just installed ubuntu fro a CD and grub installed itself
[03:37] <bulmer> chamo: can you source a script ? like so  . ./scripthere
[03:37] <chamo_> Arcad3: it should'nt be a problem
[03:37] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, ok. thats good
[03:37] <lukus001> Ive not changed anything, ive only formatted /install window back ontop of the windows hd
[03:37] <Arcad3> paste me a sample command please
[03:37] <chamo_> bulmer: you mean, exec it ?
[03:38] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, are you now using the same computer?
[03:38] <pro1> can somebody help me?
[03:38] <lukus001> yes, im on a live cd
[03:38] <bulmer> chamo: I thought that was you question?
[03:38] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, excellent
[03:38] <bulmer> your*
[03:38] <sixpointeight> I just downloaded a theme, but it was in a tarball, how do I compile it / install it?
[03:38] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, open a terminal
[03:38] <Arcad3> !after installed windows
[03:38] <lukus001> okay
[03:38] <Arcad3> !windows
[03:38] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[03:38] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, now, in that, type sudo fdisk -l
[03:38] <UbuntuN00B_HBG> Arcad3: thanks! then Im supposted to remove and reinstall ndiswrapper... is than an apt-get thing too?
[03:39] <sixpointeight> It doesn't have ./configure or autogen.sh.
[03:39] <lukus001> yep
[03:39] <ardchoille42> sixpointeight, What kind of theme? GTK2? Icon? Metacity? GDM?
[03:39] <bulmer> chamo:  do you mean a script to be run as soon as you logon?
[03:39] <Arcad3> yes
[03:39] <devilsadvocate> look at the output of fdisk, lukus001 , now, is that familaira, as in, are you able to recognize your partitions?
[03:39] <Arcad3> apt-get install or remove
[03:39] <mzuverink> Ive been booting my notebook when plugged in with the acpi=off and apm=off options, Ive been adding them at the grub menu.  Can I add a line to menu.lst and label it "kernel v-home" and then edit the other and label it kernel-v mobile"?  And if I do, everytime grub gets updated it will revert, correct?
[03:39] <chamo_> bulmer: yes, but the script needs to open the Terminal windows
[03:39] <chamo_> not be run in the background
[03:40] <chamo_> I cannot figure out how to launch this
[03:40] <lukus001> devilsadvocate, yes it looks identical to how it was before i reinstalled windows
[03:40] <devilsadvocate> chamo, add it in the startup (in session manager)
[03:40] <pro1> hi, what do I have to do to get some help?
[03:40] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, now, which of them is your ubuntu partition
[03:40] <devilsadvocate> what is it called?
[03:40] <bulmer> chamo_: any reason why you need a Terminal window to be open just to run a script? whats the use of the terminal window for? requires your input?
[03:40] <lukus001> sda1
[03:40] <IdleOne> pro1: ask a question and be patient :)
[03:40] <toto_> hello all
[03:40] <toto_> hoe
[03:41] <hbaigu> !ask | pro1
[03:41] <ubotu> pro1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:41] <sixpointeight> gdm
[03:41] <storeyzy_bio> lukus001, you have 2 harddisk? so install grub to the linux harddisk.
[03:41] <toto_> how can i add ntfs support in ubuntu?
[03:41] <chamo_> I need the terminal to show the output of the command
[03:41] <chamo_> in real time
[03:41] <IdleOne> !ntfs > toto_
[03:41] <ardchoille42> sixpointeight, Open System -> Adminstration -> Login Window and click the Add button
[03:41] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, whcih text editr are you familiar with?
[03:41] <chamo_> maybe I have to "screen" it
[03:41] <chamo_> that's an idea
[03:41] <chamo_> :D
[03:41] <bulmer> chamo_: you cant redirect it to a file ?
[03:41] <jianingy> toto_: you should compile ntfs in your kernel
[03:41] <lukus001> devil, the one in the accesories
[03:42] <lukus001> gedit
[03:42] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, look at /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:42] <chamo_> no
[03:42] <storeyzy_bio> toto_: google ntfs 3g ubuntu
[03:42] <chamo_> I need to have it displayed for "control" purpose
[03:42] <GinaGrrrl> quit
[03:42] <IdleOne> storeyzy_bio: why do they have to google it when the bot already has the link ?
[03:42] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, type "sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst_backup"
[03:42] <storeyzy_bio> !MBR
[03:42] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:42] <sixpointeight> Thank you.
[03:43] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, then type "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[03:43] <lukus001> if i do gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst its empty
[03:43] <pro1> ok, I have an ATI Readon 9600 in dual head configuration with a Sony G40 and a Syncmaster 215tw. Both are running well, but when I move the mouse cursor from monitor 0 (LCD Syncmaster) to Sony, I get only a box for the mouse curser. On monitor 0 (LCD) mouse cursor works well. That is the problem.
[03:43] <bulmer> chamo_:  when you boot up and run this script, you then want to interrupt the boot process because you may not like the script output?
[03:43] <pro1> PS: I am using ubuntu 6.1
[03:43] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, do "cd /boot/grub"
[03:43] <lukus001> oh wait i missed ot the t
[03:44] <lukus001> 2 secs :p
[03:44] <devilsadvocate> ok
[03:44] <hbaigu> chamo, xterm -e
[03:44] <Arcad3> i have a concern..i use ubuntu for 1 year now and is all runnig more than perfect games,movies,music,servers...dapper 6.06 will have the same faith as 5.04??
[03:44] <storeyzy_bio> !ntfs > storeyzy_bio
[03:44] <devilsadvocate> Arcad3, of course :)
[03:44] <IdleOne> Arcad3: yes
[03:44] <Arcad3> when ?:(
[03:44] <lukus001> oh, even spell correctly its still empty?
[03:44] <jrib> Arcad3: when what?
[03:44] <Arcad3> i like 6.06
[03:44] <IdleOne> !upgrade > Arcad3
[03:45] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, type "cd /boot/grub"
[03:45] <Arcad3> i intend to use it for years to come and my fiends too
[03:45] <lukus001> ok
[03:45] <devilsadvocate> then type "ls"
[03:45] <chamo_> hbaigu: xterm -e is not a reconized command
[03:45] <lukus001> done
[03:45] <devilsadvocate> Arcad3, i belive dapper has about 4 more years of support left
[03:45] <klm-> Arcad3: Dapper is very stable, at least as stable as 5.04. Edgy not so.
[03:45] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, do you see a bunch of files?
[03:45] <Arcad3> ogh is good then..
[03:45] <storeyzy_bio> what's unstable about edgy?
[03:46] <hbaigu> chamo, xterm -e command
[03:46] <Arcad3> i will make a repository database on some DVD.s to be shure
[03:46] <chamo_> bulmer: actually no. its a script to handle torrents after boot. the only requirment is the terminal to be open so I can see output and check everything is going OK when I want.
[03:46] <IdleOne> edgy is not unstable
[03:46] <klm-> it was unstable for me, I installed it two times from the cd and it broke down for no reason
[03:46] <lukus001> devils, its saying there isnt /boot/grub?
[03:46] <xipietotec> storeyzy_bio: nothing...but it contains more "experimental" software. new features in other words.
[03:46] <gably> heelo
[03:46] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, cd /boot then
[03:46] <gably> I've just installed a server
[03:46] <gably> and it works!
[03:46] <devilsadvocate> and then do ls
[03:47] <gably> :):)
[03:47] <IdleOne> wtg gably
[03:47] <bulmer> chamo: as the other guy suggested to run a script at boot..you can insert   xterm -e commandhere
[03:47] <gably> who wants to test the server
[03:47] <lukus001> ok now i see 6 blocks of lines after ls
[03:47] <bulmer> that will start an sterm window
[03:47] <bulmer> xterm*
[03:47] <Goldfisch> The ubuntu team described edgy as a baseline where they would start doing a lot of things, as opposed to dapper which the paid a lot of attention to stability. That is the difference. The statement "xxx is unstable" is subjective and hard to interpret, but this is based on the ubuntu team's own comments.
[03:47] <gably> Who can talk dutch here?
[03:47] <bulmer> gably give the ip address
[03:47] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, can you pastebin the output ?
[03:47] <gably> I will give you
[03:48] <devilsadvocate> !pastebin | lukus001
[03:48] <ubotu> lukus001: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:48] <gably> <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:48] <gably> go to
[03:48] <chamo_> i gotta try
[03:48] <gably> http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:48] <klm-> Edgy is more edgy than older versions
[03:48] <lukus001> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3088/
[03:48] <gably> Does the server works?
[03:48] <bulmer> works
[03:48] <frogzoo> klm-: not really
[03:48] <Arcad3> yes
[03:48] <IdleOne> gably: yes
[03:48] <gably> Allright :)
[03:48] <daviey> Hi, i want to make a wireless access point using an old laptop and wifi card.  Anybody got any links to a good how to???
[03:49] <Arcad3> gably:
[03:49] <Arcad3> !lamp
[03:49] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:49] <gably> thankyou all for your comments
[03:49] <gably> I'm now gonna work on the site itself
[03:49] <sdac221x> hi,  i followed several guides on how to install beryl.  ive installed it on xubuntu edgy laptop with x1300 video card.  When i log into the beryl session the system "immediately" logs me out (does not show desktop at all)and created an .xsession-errors file.  any ideas what could be wrong here ?
[03:49] <klm-> frogzoo: might be I just have prejudice. but I tried to install edgy two times from the official install cd, and on both times gnomepanel was lost for good, and I had nothing to do with it. I couldn't get it back
[03:49] <gably> goodbye
[03:49] <yossir> Hi. Is there a way to install Apache 2.2.3 through Synaptic?
[03:49] <bulmer> daviey probably google has bunch of links for you .. :)
[03:49] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, ah . sorry..  my bad
[03:50] <daviey> bulmer, helpful thanx
[03:50] <yossir> Obviously it's not on the default repos, but maybe it's on a repo I don't have?
[03:50] <lukus001> devil, the last one the vmlinuz is what i see when trying to load linux
[03:50] <lukus001> oh?
[03:50] <Arcad3> i wanna compile verlihub into a defined directory...can someone paste me an example command
[03:50] <pro1> is my question in the queue?
[03:51] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3089/
[03:51] <Arcad3> what question pro1?
[03:51] <Goldfisch> sdac221x: You can flip to console mode, log in there, and try to read the .xsession file.
[03:51] <lukus001> devil, okay done
[03:51] <pro1> I have an ATI Readon 9600 in dual head configuration with a Sony G40 and a Syncmaster 215tw. Both are running well, but when I move the mouse cursor from monitor 0 (LCD Syncmaster) to Sony, I get only a box for the mouse curser. On monitor 0 (LCD) mouse cursor works well. That is the problem. I use Ubuntu 6.1 Edgy Eft
[03:51] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, now do cd /media/ubuntu/boot
[03:51] <sdac221x> Goldfish:  i already have the xsession-errors file open but u i have not idea what anything means.  (new to linux)
[03:52] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, now cd grub
[03:52] <IdleOne> pro1: there is no queue per say. ppl here are volunteers and maybe there isnt anyone who knows the answer. you need to be patient
[03:52] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, there, type sudo gedit menu.lst
[03:52] <lukus001> yep
[03:52] <lukus001> ahh
[03:52] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, now scroll down till you see the menu entries
[03:53] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, better yet, pastebin your menu.lst
[03:53] <pbureau> nothlit- well that did not work very well, when entered that command line you gave me, it locked up the laptop completly... weird.
[03:53] <lukus001> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3090/
[03:53] <Goldfisch> sdac221x: Not sure I could decipher one myself. You have to sift through and see if you can find what appears to be a breaking error message, and then try pasting that into a google search. You may find threads where other people have had the same problem. That is the trick to solving issues.
[03:53] <chamo> xterm -e /path/to/script  works great!! thanks !
[03:53] <nothlit> pbureau, you should check whats going on with just 'mount'
[03:53] <pro1> ok, I think, the different solution of the other monitor or a missing line in xorg.conf is the source of the problem
[03:54] <sdac221x> Goldfisch:  ok ill try that. thanks
[03:54] <lukus001> oh, it look like its set to hda1 when shoud bs sda1?
[03:54] <pbureau> nothlit- okay..
[03:54] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, i _think_ i know what the problem is, what you are going to do is to edit, on line 112,
[03:54] <pro1> Is it possible to configure the mouse device differently for each monitor?
[03:54] <chamo> Thanks to you all.
[03:55] <nothlit> pbureau, anyways, you sound like you have a funny system/NAS
[03:55] <lukus001> okay, what do i need to change it to?
[03:55] <Arcad3> !c++
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <Arcad3> !c#
[03:55] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, that is the second line on the code blosck for the first option, saying "root (hd1,0)" replace that with "root (hd0,0)")
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c# - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <hbaigu> Arcad3, what you want to do?
[03:56] <lukus001> okay
[03:56] <sad> hi click here please.....it's very important to me...
[03:56] <sad> http://www.FullpageViews.com/BlockPage/index.php?refid=10013813
[03:56] <sad> please
[03:56] <lukus001> save, exit and reboot?
[03:56] <Arcad3> compile verlihub with another prefix
[03:56] <sad> http://www.FullpageViews.com/BlockPage/index.php?refid=10013813
[03:56] <sad> ok?
[03:56] <riotkittie> uh. not supporting spammers is important to me.
[03:56] <sad> lol
[03:57] <Hirvinen> sad: Stop spamming.
[03:57] <hbaigu> Arcad3, and make a deb package?
[03:57] <sad> okkkkkkkkkkk
[03:57] <sad> i stop now
[03:57] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, then you will reboot and try to boot to linux using that first menu entry. If it works, you can make the same change to alll the ubuntu - entries
[03:57] <qmf> hi there, i seem to have broken my wine by compiling 0.9.30 "The X11 driver is missing.  Check your build!" is what i'm getting (i'm not very proficient in compiling from source)
[03:57] <Arcad3> nope
[03:57] <lukus001> devilsadvocate, okay. thank you very much.   :)
[03:57] <sad> lol
[03:57] <devilsadvocate> lukus001, if that works, i'll tell you how to fix the windows entry
[03:58] <hbaigu> Arcad3, ./configure --prefix=path
[03:58] <lukus001> okay ill be back asap :)
[03:58] <dsas> is sun-java5-plugin the replacement for for j2re-1.4-mozilla-plugin /
[03:58] <dsas> ?
[03:58] <Arcad3> does'n work
[03:58] <sad> i have a problem with x chat gnome
[03:59] <dsas> sad: Tell us your problem
[03:59] <TulsaPoke> Anyone know the difference between "Free" and "Available" hard drive space listed in the System Monitor?
[03:59] <ugarit> anyone here using xdos?
[03:59] <sad> when i try to connect to irc.emule-project.net  it says  Connection failed. Error: Connection timed out
[03:59] <aalhamad> when i go to http://aimexpress.aim.com/ (AIM EXPRESS) is says to me your web browser is not supported.. how can i fix it?
[04:00] <sad> when i try to connect to irc.emule-project.net  it says  Connection failed. Error: Connection timed out
[04:00] <aalhamad> I'm using the Ubunto mozilla
[04:00] <frogzoo> TulsaPoke: there is a (default) 5% overhead for use by the file system that isn't available
[04:00] <jrib> dsas: it's the more recent version of java
[04:00] <dsas> jrib: Cool, thanks.
[04:00] <nothlit> frogzoo, in ext3
[04:00] <sad> when i try to connect to irc.emule-project.net  it says  Connection failed. Error: Connection timed out
[04:00] <bowens_> Hey folks, I am still unable to get NetworkManager to notice my wifi card (kwifimanager and iwconfig has no such problem)
[04:00] <IdleOne> aalhamad: you email aol and tell them to support your mozzila browser
[04:01] <sad> when i run windows is ok
[04:01] <TulsaPoke> thanks frogzoo... none of the other systems ever gave me both figures
[04:01] <BBking> sad: i think its the irc server itszelf
[04:01] <hbaigu> Arcad3, .what source vesion are you using?
[04:01] <lukus001> deviladvocate thanks! worked