[05:55] <Docteh_> jgomo3: the cache dir is stuff downloaded for installing, so either manually download or uninstall and reinstall :-/
[05:55] <Metraa> Thanks, ubot, not really helpful... (lol)  Anyway, do I need to copy codecs into mplayer's codec directory?  or should I just recompile/reinstall it?
[05:56] <Docteh_> jgomo3: boot the livecd and do like: apt-get install <packages> -d
[05:56] <Metraa> aptitude > apt-get
[05:56] <Docteh_> download only, no sense actually installing them :)
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> !dvd
[05:56] <jgomo3> Docteh_: yes, i think boot livecd is the solution
[05:56] <CkhiKuzad> i am trying to install my lexmark 2600 printer, and the program to install it says my CUPS is out of date, and it requires a version of 1.2 or higher. i checked, and APT thinks that its up to date.
[05:56] <Mr_Sonoma> pawan, i'm suspecting the wallpapers are not in your home dir...but i cant remember for sure where KDE puts them. you could ask in #kubuntu since its really a KDE question
[05:56] <profxavier> trying to get putty/XMing/Ubuntu to work together, in a Windows 7 environment, anyone else have luck with this :D ?
[05:57] <Metraa> Yeah, bad luck...
[05:57] <Metraa> lol
[05:57] <Docteh_> hmm
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:  does just the xming stuff work? You dont need to be using putty to get xming going.
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:  xming has its own built in putty last i checked.
[05:57] <profxavier> Dr_W: no idea how to set it up
[05:57] <Metraa> I never used putty, but there's still a problem.
[05:58] <profxavier> how would I run an application, if I just have XMing running ?
[05:58] <profxavier> do I run it each time, for each application ?
[05:58] <Docteh_> profxavier: so you fill in :0 on putty for a display and echo $DISPLAY gives you localhost:10.0?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:  err.. time to read the xming docs then i think
[05:58] <profxavier> Docteh
[05:58] <profxavier> no, I get nothing from echo $DISPLAY
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:  xming has a wizard you run..   you tell it the ip of the server, user name/pass and program to run. (ie gnome-terminal)
[05:58] <Docteh_> profxavier: i usually just use xming on a lan so DISPLAY=<IP_ADDRESS>:0 works
[05:59] <Docteh_> profxavier: ohhhh check your sshd conf
[05:59] <profxavier> Docteh, in putty or in XMing ?
[05:59] <profxavier> Docteh, my sshd_config, is very correct
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:  i think you are making this harder then it is. :)
[05:59] <profxavier> based on everything I have read
[05:59] <Docteh_> profxavier: i punch that in to bash shell like: DISPLAY=<IP_ADDRESS>:0 firefox
[05:59] <profxavier> Dr_W, if its so easy, then please, do tell me how ?
[05:59] <Docteh_> or export DISPLAY=stuffff
[06:00] <profxavier> and 0.6 is your local Windows machine, or the remote Ubuntu box ?
[06:00] <Docteh_> windows
[06:00] <profxavier> No protocol specified
[06:00] <profxavier> Error: cannot open display: <IP_ADDRESS>:0
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:  the basics of how i do it on a clean install..  i install xming on the windows box.. install ssh server on linxu box..  run the xming wizard on windows.. tell it  my name/pass/ip # and tell it to run gnome-terminal.. a few moments later i get a gnome-terminal window on my linux box..
[06:01] <profxavier> and you have to configure sshd_config...
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:    I could then later use putty if i wanted.. but i dont need to manually use putty at all.
[06:01] <Docteh_> hmm .6 is my voip phone, whoops
[06:01] <slgma> how do i set my mousewheel speed
[06:01] <slgma> whenever i boot into windows it stays really sensitive
[06:02] <Krishna> Is there a H264 GStreamer codec for ubuntu?
[06:02] <profxavier> do you configure XMing using XLaunch then ?
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> xming 'xlaunch wizard' -> http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/#head-143
[06:02] <profxavier> or do you configure via command line ?
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:  all i ever really do is use that wizard.
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> xming IS the 'x server' that runs on windows. t eh wizard starts an instance of it.. If you DONT have any xming running at all.. your X apps CANT be displayed on the windows box.
[06:03] <profxavier> ok, so start a program: gnome-terminal
[06:03] <profxavier> then, run local ?
[06:03] <profxavier> run remote?
[06:03] <profxavier> using putty, plink.exe ?
[06:03] <profxavier> using ssh?
[06:03] <shell-fu> how do i update wine to the latest version?
[06:04] <profxavier> shell-fu, sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[06:04] <profxavier> shell-fu, that wont be the latest-latest
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:  --> http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/#head-143     PuTTY Link for Xming SSH client) or [WWW]SSH (e.g. using [WWW]Cygwin OpenSSH) with plink.exe or ssh.exe respectively.
[06:04] <Viking667> if you're not using xming, then you'd probably be using another X server (i.e. the X server that comes with Cygwin is a later one than the publically-available xming which has been stuck at 6.9)
[06:05]  * Viking667 is disappointed the author of xming decided to charge for versions later than 6.9
[06:05]  * test1 too
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> xming has its own built in 'mini putty' i guess you can say.
[06:05] <shell-fu> profxavier, i need the latest, 1.2
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> Viking667:  yep. a bit annoying.. but he has to eat..
[06:06] <CkhiKuzad> ugh. not again. youtube decided to update their crap. is there an update for gstreamer out that fixes the streaming from youtube in totem?
[06:06] <profxavier> this is retarded
[06:06]  * Viking667 hates the flash player from youtube...
[06:06] <profxavier> there is no way this is easy, its insulting to say so
[06:06]  * CkhiKuzad does too. thats why he uses totem instead
[06:06] <Viking667> What I do is:  youtube-dl the link, then use mplayer to play it - seems to come up much faster
[06:06] <Viking667> I've never had much success with totem playing flv files
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:  I found it every easy. Not sure where you are having the issues at.
[06:07] <profxavier> the website is the worse set of instructions for doing this
[06:07] <Krishna> Is there a H264 GStreamer codec for ubuntu?
[06:07] <profxavier> DR_W, its entirety
[06:07] <Docteh_> !x264
[06:07] <profxavier> firstly, you have to add display 10 in the sshd_config
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> i always tell it to use plink.exe i recall. thats the xming mini-putty.
[06:07] <Docteh_> haha really? nothing?
[06:07] <profxavier> thats a jewel
[06:07] <profxavier> DR_W, so I actually launch plink ?
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:  i dont recall ever needing to edit my sshd_config   its been a while.
[06:08] <CkhiKuzad> Docteh_ i think this might work
[06:08] <profxavier> Dr_W: ofcourse you would have to
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:  you run the xming launch wizard and if it wants to know what tool to use to connect to the remote.. i tell it plink
[06:08] <CkhiKuzad> nevermind, it didnt
[06:08]  * CkhiKuzad tested the command first
[06:08] <Viking667> !h264
[06:08] <profxavier> Dr_W, now I just find your telling me random things
[06:08] <profxavier> if its not specific, its not helping
[06:08] <profxavier> ill wait for others to help
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:  you are not being thast spefific either.  I dont recall ever having to edit the default ssh config on ubuntu to get this work  the last dozen times ive used it,
[06:09] <Metraa> My question was misspoken before... I have libdvdcss2 pkg installed, but MOVIE PLAYER won't play dvds, I have to use VLC for it, and I'd rather use the default packaged software.  Any tips?
[06:09] <Docteh_> hmm i thought the default sshd config has X11 forwarding disabled
[06:09] <profxavier> Dr_W, well, I have been very specific, when I can
[06:09] <Viking667> Metraa: I don't know how to get totem to play them.
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> Docteh_:  not sure.  Ive not used xming in ages. (at least 6 mo)
[06:09] <profxavier> DR_W, and us fussing about it is getting us no where, aka: ill get someone else to help
[06:10] <Viking667> I've steered away from that, as I find that mplayer plays everything I throw at it except for chiptune songs (sid, nsf, etc)
[06:10] <Docteh_> I stand corrected, in lucid its not disabled by default
[06:10] <Viking667> (oh, and mod and midi)
[06:10] <Metraa> Viking667: it's totem still?  (labeled as "Movie Player" at least in lucid)
[06:10] <Viking667> Yeah, totem's the "Movie Player" as I understand it.
[06:11] <Krishna>  Is there a H264 GStreamer codec for ubuntu?
[06:11] <Metraa> that's why I can't get anything to work with it then! haha
[06:11] <Viking667> I can go check out what Mental Murray says when it eventually comes out, but under Lucid at least...
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> Im not even sure i got xming installed on my only windows machine any more.
[06:11] <Docteh_> profxavier: is running the X11 traffic via ssh important part of the whole mess?
[06:11] <Viking667> Dr_Willis: if you can, grab cygwin-x - you may find you can do more stuff.
[06:11] <profxavier> Docteh, ill pass on the assistance, thanks
[06:11] <Metraa> is mplayer better than VLC?  (and why?)
[06:11] <Docteh_> ok
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> Viking667:  last i used cygwin it had some nasty issues.. but that was at least 2 years ago.
[06:12] <Viking667> I find (personally) that mplayer plays more movie formats, and doesn't require that X be running.
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> Metraa:  i perfer the latest vlc.
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:12] <Viking667> I've got all three on board - vlc, totem and mplayer. I only seem to use mplayer.
[06:12] <Metraa> mplayer plays more than vlc??? that's surprising...
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> ive rarely found anything that i cant play in vlc or mplayer.
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> I cant stand totem much these days.
[06:13] <Viking667> Dr_Willis: as I said earlier, sid and nsf, mod and midi tunes.... pretty much it. For those I use xmms (1, not 2 - can't stand 2)
[06:13] <Metraa> I have VLC on my win7 box, but it doesn't seem to like DVDs.  On linux I seem ok, but I feel a bit on edge...  I guess there's no harm in trying mplayer
[06:14]  * profxavier jumps around
[06:14] <Metraa> I'll see how many dependencies there are
[06:14] <Viking667> Metraa: don't forget to add win32codecs
[06:14] <Metraa> Thanks for your input, guys!  I appreciate it!
[06:14] <SubCool> Dr_Willis, you seem swamped. Im back- so far no success. but, just hit me if/when ur free
[06:14] <Viking667> (if you haven't already)
[06:14] <Viking667> Metraa: by the way, I had a statement for you over on #mplayer,
[06:14] <Docteh_> I've only tried VLC with deprotected dvds :-/
[06:14] <Viking667> let me see if I can pull it up again
[06:14] <rkvirani> happy I got my dads old P4 1GB laptop with a dead graphics card to boot Ubuntu server so now I can use it as a headless machine!!!
[06:15] <Metraa> Viking667: done and done ;-)  medibuntu repos are up, win codecs are up, and all that jazz
[06:15] <Viking667> I had said: "Movie Player" is probably totem anyhow...
[06:15] <Metraa> VLC works with DVDs but it buffer slower
[06:15] <Metraa> I think
[06:15] <Viking667> Metraa: cool. What's complaining then? Totem? or what?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  i cant even rember your problem :) i was about to toy with xming.. but my laptops battery is dead.   heh
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> Metraa:  slower? huh? it plays them at slower speeds? :)
[06:16] <SubCool> Dr_Willis, VNC- its ok.
[06:16] <Metraa> Viking667: "Movie Player" i.e. Totem is complaining.  I have libdvdcss2, win32codecs and all the medibuntu recomended stuff... I pop in a DVD and it says it doesn't know the format... it's a region 1 dvd!
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  did you try a simpiler windowmanager and tweaked the xstartup?
[06:17] <Metraa> Dr_Willis: buffers slower, from what I can tell - or, in smaller chunks... and more often - so it stops for a second every few minutes
[06:17] <Viking667> do you have libdvdnav as well?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> Metraa:  cant say that ive ever noticed the issue.. seems  like it would be some other issue going on causeing the stuttering.
[06:17] <Metraa> enough to be annoying
[06:18] <Metraa> I dont' think I have libdvdnav... never knew about it :-/ should I?
[06:18] <Viking667> helps with front end menus.
[06:18] <Viking667> (I think)
[06:18] <Krishna> I installed pidgin from pidgin.im's download page for ubuntu. My friend too did the same. But we cannot have voice chat on google account. But we can have voice chat on Skype. I wish anyone can help me fix this.
[06:18] <Viking667> means mplayer can use dvdnav:// uri
[06:18] <SubCool> Dr_Willis, i just removed the /etc/x11/initi/something and put icewm -
[06:19] <Viking667> Krishna: hm. I don't know how to do tat.
[06:19] <Viking667> "that"
[06:19] <Metraa> Viking667: sorry, I left #mplayer so I didnt' see it, but thank you for your help
[06:19]  * Viking667 bows fractionally.
[06:19] <Metraa> Dr_Willis: I only noticed it on my Win7 box when compared to windows media player (I use VLC for everything on my winbox except DVDs)
[06:20] <Krishna> I think i only need to make pidgin use my mic  How to ?
[06:20] <Krishna> #pidgin provides zero help :( :'( :(
[06:20] <profxavier> ok progress
[06:20] <profxavier> i have to export DISPLAY
[06:21] <profxavier> so I have echo $DISPLAY
[06:21] <SubCool> holy shit- ij ust vnc'ed into my windows box-
[06:21] <Viking667> Krishna: have you made sure that Pidgin even _does_ voice chat?
[06:21] <SubCool> there has to be something wrong with my ubuntu box.
[06:21] <Metraa> Thanks for the media help, guys!  Time to get that DVD spinning!  catch you later - Thanks Viking and Willis!
[06:21] <Metraa> ./bow
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  you got vnc from linuix -> windows working ?
[06:22] <guampa> profxavier: can u use xdmcp over ssh?
[06:22] <profxavier> what is xdmcp ?
[06:22] <dustin> Hello, anyone know why i cant set my wireless passphrase (ubuntu server), i get Set encode error when its longer than 5 characters?
[06:22] <guampa> kinda "remote gdm"
[06:22] <guampa> remote x login
[06:22] <IdleOne> !language | SubCool
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:  a way that X machines can have applitions dispklayed across the network.
[06:23] <guampa> i've used it once with xming
[06:23] <profxavier> guampa, I cannot even get xeyes to work
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> Its nifty. but a little 'old' so lacking in some ways
[06:23] <guampa> you see gnome panel along with windows bar
[06:23] <profxavier> so I doubt that will work
[06:23] <guampa> ah ok
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> to get xdmcp working. You need to configure GDM to allow it.
[06:23] <guampa> Dr_Willis: but can it be done over ssh -X¿
[06:24] <guampa> ?
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> basucally with it. you sit down at PC #1. and on teh login screen you can tell it to 'query' the network. and you can see what other remote boxs you can access. You login to them and basically have a 'desktop' runniong on them that you see on your local machine
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> guampa:  never noticed. It sort of  is like the old way it was done..  ssh has grown to do basically the same thing. only more securely
[06:25] <Suit_Of_Sables> hey gang, the mactel ubuntu documentation page suggests keeping an install of OSX on your machine to ensure you can get firmware updates. I would like to single boot for speed and simplicity. I have a cloned OSX install on an external. I should be able to boot into that for firmware upgrades correct?
[06:25] <Viking667> xdmcp works okay until you need to have it connect to your local X server. Then it goes a bit awry.
[06:26] <Suit_Of_Sables> oops, documentations says thats fine. sorry for the unnessisary question
[06:26] <profxavier> how would I check the firewall on my Ubuntu box, to ensure I can X11 over ssh ?
[06:26] <Viking667> just make sure that port 22 is open in both directions
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> I recall ages ago using xdmcp to have on one (local on my desk) machine with 4 differnt X sessions - each on a different machine on the lan.
[06:26] <Viking667> i.e. target-box:22
[06:26] <profxavier> which it is, cause I can ssh in
[06:26] <abhijit> profxavier, sudo ufw status
[06:26] <guampa> i only remember having used it once, to connect to a colinux instance in winXP
[06:26] <SubCool> Dr_Willis, ya, my laptop to my other laptop
[06:27] <guampa> when i couldn't run native linux at work
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:  to see what firewall rules are enabled -->  sudo iptables --list
[06:27] <profxavier> whats with the offset!
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> guampa:  ywa. those linux 'in windows' setups can be very nice.
[06:27] <profxavier> the offset is 10 in sshd_config
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> guampa:  ive seen some that use vnc, others that use xming.
[06:27] <guampa> it was damn cool to have gnome and windows running along
[06:27] <profxavier> but I configure putty for 0
[06:28] <profxavier> and I set DISPLAY to 0 ? or 10?
[06:28] <Viking667> 10
[06:28] <profxavier> grrrr!
[06:28] <Viking667> on the remote end, DISPLAY=localhost:10
[06:28] <zyw> hello
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> ssh sort of auto-reroutes things to  a differnt #.  :) not sure why..
[06:28] <Viking667> but that only works if yours is the only ssh connection being forwarded to X
[06:28] <profxavier> winClipboardProc - DISPLAY=<IP_ADDRESS>:0.0
[06:28] <profxavier> winClipboardProc - XOpenDisplay () returned and successfully opened the display.
[06:28] <Viking667> Dr_Willis: yes, there isa reason.
[06:28] <profxavier> thats in my XMing logs
[06:29] <Viking667> profxavier: hmmm. Weird.
[06:29] <st33l> hmmm
[06:29] <st33l> after some more failures im back :(
[06:29] <profxavier> and I tried various export statements
[06:29] <Viking667> I wonder if Xming is talking about connections to itself
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> ssh -X <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:29] <Viking667> Dr_Willis: heh. Yup.
[06:29] <Hilikus> i have a server and a laptop. the server uses dynip and the laptop can access it when outside the LAN by using the dynip name, but once the laptop is in the same network it can not access the server using the same name. i have to use the server's hostname directly. this breaks all my bookmarks and apps configs cause sometimes the server is called one thing, and when outside the network another thing
[06:29] <Hilikus> how can i fix this?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> $DISPLAY ---> localhost:10.0
[06:29] <zyw> how to play?
[06:29] <SubCool> Dr_Willis, ya- xtightvncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused
[06:29] <SubCool> Unable to connect to VNC server
[06:29] <Krishna> Viking667, Yes, only for pidgin to pidgin on gmail account
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> I dident have to set that at all. ssh did.
[06:29] <abhijit> !details | zyw
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  what was the exact command you used to xtightvncserver ?
[06:29] <st33l> fey doc
[06:29] <st33l> hey doc
[06:29] <profxavier> http://pastebin.ca/1911800
[06:30] <Viking667> Krishna: hm. I haven't tried that myself, not on voice anyhow.
[06:30] <zyw> who can speak chinese ?
[06:30] <wiesshund> Hilikus>>  does the laptop have internet access when on the lan?
[06:30] <st33l> has anyone had networking issues with ubuntu 10.04
[06:30] <st33l> on ethernet
[06:30] <abhijit> !cn | zyw
[06:30] <Hilikus> wiesshund: yes, it has internet access in both cases and it can access the server in both cases, but using different addresses, i want to use a single address (the external one)
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  i ssh to remote 'server' run vncserver, it says -> New 'X' desktop is server:1
[06:31] <guampa> Hilikus: you can modify your /etc/hosts to force a name resolution
[06:31]  * profxavier thinks maybe just using VNC is the best solution
[06:31] <shell-fu> fml, is anything better/equivalent to empathy for IRC?
[06:31] <SubCool> Dr_Willis, xtightvncviewer
[06:31] <SubCool>  is what i put- i got a lil box for the addy- and that was it.
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  so i --> $ vncviewer  <IP_ADDRESS>:1
[06:31] <guampa> profxavier: haven't you tried nx?
[06:31] <Hilikus> guampa: i know, but i cant resolve to 1 thing since it depends wether i'm in or outside the network
[06:31] <wiesshund> Hilikus>>  if you have net access on the laptop inside the lan, and the server is using a dynip service, you should still be able to see the server on the lan as you do outside
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  i tell it the ip# of my server and the port:1
[06:31] <SubCool> same
[06:31] <profxavier> Viking, did you check the URL ?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  saves it asking in a dialog.
[06:32] <guampa> script a net detector and voila
[06:32] <doctorZeus> anyone know of or recommend any hard drive performance/diagnostic utilities for Ubuntu/linux?  I've been screwing around for days trying to get a raid enclosure working and I'm afraid I may have screwed with the bios and lowered performance for all my drives
[06:32] <SubCool> oh
[06:32] <profxavier> guampa, no, I have not
[06:32] <SubCool> ya, doesnt work
[06:32] <guampa> profxavier: well i use it and runs over ssh
[06:32] <profxavier> im have been soly working on xming
[06:32] <guampa> and it's way faster than plain X
[06:32] <profxavier> guampa, is it windows or linux ?
[06:32] <SubCool> Dr_Willis, for some reason the computer is refusing the connection
[06:32] <SubCool> idk y?
[06:32] <Hilikus> wiesshund: i see it, but not using the dynip address
[06:32] <guampa> has clients for both
[06:32] <SubCool> i can ssh into it
[06:32] <wiesshund> Hilikus>>  what is handling the DNS on your lan?
[06:33] <Viking667> Plain X works pretty darn quick for me, at least until they turned off TCP listening on the X server by default. *sigh*
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> nx/freenx is a LOT faster then vnc. :)  but its a little more complex.
[06:33] <Hilikus> wiesshund: nothing. my isp
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  the linux box is refusing to let the windows machuine in? or what exactly?
[06:33] <dustin> anyone knowledgable with wifi setup? my passphrase refuses to set :x
[06:33] <guampa> Viking667: over slow networks there's a big difference imo. over lan probably not
[06:33] <profxavier> i see freenx
[06:33] <profxavier> which has Debian packages
[06:34] <Viking667> I like using compression to Norway.
[06:34] <profxavier> what is the Windows one ?
[06:34] <guampa> profxavier: be aware there's freenx and a commercial nx
[06:34] <Viking667> from here, it's pretty much around the other side of the world.
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> NX also had some other neat features compared to vnc.
[06:34] <guampa> the latter has a "beer free" version, that's the one i've tried
[06:34] <st33l> hello can anyone tell me whether my net trouble is due to this mother board??
[06:35] <st33l> asus p5sd2-vm
[06:35] <profxavier> nomachine nx
[06:35] <guampa> right
[06:35] <st33l> ??
[06:35] <smackmanic> st33l: why would it be...?
[06:36] <st33l> im not able to connect to anything but google
[06:36] <profxavier> no nx package
[06:36] <st33l> on ethernet
[06:36] <profxavier> in the repos
[06:36] <st33l> more like adsl
[06:36] <st33l> i mean adsl
[06:36] <guampa> profxavier: yes you can dl it from nomachine
[06:36] <st33l> tried changing the mtu disabled ipv6
[06:37] <st33l> i cant even access the routers page !1
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> st33l:  You have any other pcs on that network? or just the one?
[06:38] <profxavier> ok, sorry
[06:38] <profxavier> to get the nx server?
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> Theres 'freenx' and 'neatx' from what i am reading at --<   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[06:38] <SubCool> Dr_Willis, the ubuntu server is refusing any VNC connection. From any device.
[06:39] <guampa> ah neatx i hadn't heard of
[06:39] <SubCool> although it does allow ssh. - i dont hink changing the file did anything.
[06:39] <Viking667> SubCool: for what reasons again?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> SubCool: ok. lets clarify.  Like 'best processor?'
[06:39] <frimend> How come?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  you DID close.restart the vncserver after altering that file>?
[06:40] <profxavier> is the repos case sensitive ?
[06:40] <SubCool> Dr_Willis, i rebooted the machine
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> frimend:   use it if you want it...
[06:40] <profxavier> sensative*
[06:40] <guampa> ibrahim: clients yes, server ... "no"
[06:40] <profxavier> acutally, the i was correct
[06:40] <Viking667> SubCool: is the VNC server actually _running_?
[06:40] <ibrahim> Viking667: VNC is too slow
[06:40] <SubCool> Viking667, supposedly
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> frimend:  neat artical on it --> http://ubuntu-user.com/Online/Blogs/Marcel-Gagne-Orbiting-Planet-buntu/Stop-Apologizing-For-Linux
[06:40] <frimend> Dr_Willis: I am installing it, but I'm abit puzzled why this is the general advice to standard users. :)
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  check the logs and 'ps ax | grep vnc'
[06:40] <SubCool> ibrahim, ya- but sometimes its necessary
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> frimend:  short answer 'idiot proofing'
[06:41] <ibrahim> SubCool: what is necessary ?
[06:41] <student> Can I ask about processors In here?
[06:41] <Viking667> SubCool: does that mean you don't know? Does it turn up in a process listing? Or is it activated with xinitd?
[06:41] <_st33l> sorry power failure
[06:41] <SubCool> $ ps ax | grep vnc
[06:41] <SubCool>  1668 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto vnc
[06:41] <_st33l> as i was saying
[06:42] <frimend> Dr_Willis: aha. :)
[06:42] <_st33l> i cant even connect to my routers page
[06:42] <SubCool> ibrahim, a gui to do things.
[06:42] <SubCool> _st33l, ouch
[06:42] <frimend> Dr_Willis: I'll read the article, it seems to be exacly what I was looking for. Or even better than that.
[06:42] <frimend> Thank you.
[06:42] <SubCool> Im a gui person- im finally giving up andgoing with cli
[06:42] <ibrahim> SubCool: but rdp is gui as well vnc is too heavy and slow unlike rdp
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  so.. check your .vnc/whatever log and see if its giveing a clue why vncserver is not running
[06:43] <SubCool> Viking667, i logged in ssh and ran the server manually.. and i have a script to auto run it every time the server boots
[06:43] <_st33l> hmmm
[06:43] <Viking667> SubCool: right. So, at the moment, is the server running? What does its logs say?
[06:43] <student> I have been ignored.
[06:43] <SubCool> ibrahim, i cant stand rdp- i just got it working and everythign fell apart. thats why im doing thismess. because rdp sucks. it always falls the #@#R . VNC is better-
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> Reading along at --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX   and it seems to say enable the   ppa:freenx-team  PPA.  then install 'neatx' but.. ths seems a confuseing name for the PPA...
[06:44] <ibrahim> SubCool: but vnc is slower, right ?
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> student:  this is 'ubuntu support' theres also the #hardware channel and #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:44] <student> Thank you very much Dr_Willis
[06:44] <profxavier> ok, looks like nxserver is installed
[06:45] <SubCool> ibrahim, then rdp? no- depends on ur network
[06:45] <profxavier> but it doesnt appear to be -running-
[06:45] <profxavier> i cannot connect, from the Windows client
[06:45] <guampa> profxavier: which nx have you installed?
[06:45] <SubCool> Dr_Willis, the log has changed. i no longer have that error with the icewm. But i do still have the font eros.  and that securitypolice error still
[06:45] <ibrahim> SubCool: I have an internal network and the switch speed is 10/100 mb
[06:46] <profxavier> sudo aptitude install neatx-server
[06:46] <SubCool> ibrahim, is it a seperate switch?
[06:46] <ibrahim> sorry what do you mean by serperate ?
[06:46] <SubCool> i have a 4 port router.. and a 4 router switch piggie backed onto it
[06:46] <guampa> sorry can't help with that one
[06:47] <profxavier> ah, its from Google :D
[06:47] <SubCool> the router cant handle the switch work and the router work- it slows everythign down. if u take the load of the router chipset, and put it on something else- like its own. Its SOO much faster. i found such higher transfer rates across the board
[06:48] <ibrahim> SubCool: 5 computers are connected to that switch
[06:48] <SubCool> the wireless is a pitfall. if that could be seperate with a Cisco AP or soemthing- ;-)
[06:48] <Rabbitbunny> So... I can't find my volume manager, it disappeared. 9.10 upgraded to 10.04.
[06:48]  * profxavier is feeling deflated
[06:48] <SubCool> ibrahim, what kinda switch
[06:48] <SwedeMike> SubCool: most likely the 4 switch ports on the router is a switch chip, the performance of L2 switching between those ports is excellent since this is not handled by the router cpu
[06:49] <SubCool> SwedeMike, idk what they say they do- i have tested it all... i know what works..
[06:49] <guampa> SubCool: sounds reasonable, wonder how it never came up
[06:49] <SubCool> did it for work :-)
[06:50] <SubCool> same goes for the gigbit vs gigbyte crap
[06:51] <profxavier> what do you use for nx server?
[06:51] <SubCool> just fiddling with numbers to make a profit, either way- the chipset can barely handle the work. - Most PCI Ethernet cards useto , and still do. come with a spot for a chip so u can add ram or something. It maximizes performace by like 30% or something
[06:52] <ibrahim> SubCool: Dlink
[06:52] <SubCool> guampa, it has come up- that is why when you see a commercial rack, each device is seperate. you CAN have a router and a switch- but thats just to save people from having to buy two different things.
[06:53] <SubCool> ibrahim, if you want- grab another 4port router, and put it into bridge switch mode
[06:53] <rkvirani> ls
[06:53] <SubCool> DD-wrt
[06:53] <SubCool> tomato
[06:53] <SubCool> you'll see a lil differnce- a real switch will do the thing.
[06:53] <SubCool> i have 3-
[06:54] <SwedeMike> guampa: just for reference, I haven't experienced a single residential router with switch ports that didn't have a separate switch chip for that port and had excellent switching performance between those ports. I've been in the networking business for 15+ years, CPU based switches/routers stopped being used around 1995-96.
[06:54] <Viking667> heh. I have one 8-port switch here, and a DSL router/modem with four more ports on it.
[06:54] <SubCool> so does anyone know to figure this error log out? how do i install the fonts?
[06:54] <SubCool> let me grab a link
[06:54] <Viking667> so I have about ten ports to play with once I link the two together
[06:55] <SubCool> http://pastebin.org/437677
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  the fonts are not the error.  vnc looks in a lot of different places for fonts.
[06:56] <Viking667> huh? Is that on your Windows machine?
[06:56] <pawan> hi
[06:56] <pawan> how to add compiz to start automatically
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  no idea about that security ploicy.
[06:57] <Viking667> SubCool: an X server would also look these days in /usr/share/fonts too, I think. Not sure of that.
[06:57] <profxavier> !!!!!
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  do you even have that file ?
[06:57] <profxavier> frustrating
[06:57] <pawan> man
[06:57] <mikeru> pawan: right click on your desktop -> Change Desktop Background -> Visual Effects -> select one
[06:57] <profxavier> what is the command to install an NX server
[06:57] <SubCool> Dr_Willis, which one? fonts?
[06:57] <profxavier> and how do I configure it ?
[06:57] <pawan> every time i have to type the compiz
[06:57] <profxavier> and restart/stop/start the service...
[06:58] <pawan> i want to start it automatically
[06:58] <pawan> on system startup
[06:58] <mikeru> pawan: did you at least read?
[06:58] <mikeru> (what I typed)
[06:58] <pawan> in kubuntu
[06:58] <SubCool> there seems to be a tong of fonts Dr_Willis
[06:58] <[thor]> pawan: set Visual Effects to Extra
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> profxavier:  i found the nx docs/wiki page - very confuseing also.. they seem tobe quite out of date.
[06:58] <mikeru> pawan: ahh, that's different
[06:58] <mikeru> go to System Settings
[06:58] <guampa> profxavier: i can only help you with the version from nomachine, which otoh is very easy to install
[06:59] <mikeru> pawan: System Settings -> Default Applications (or something like that, I don't remember ) -> Window Manager -> Compiz
[06:59] <mikeru> real compiz or something like that
[06:59] <profxavier> guamp, can you give me the URL to the package, so I can wget ?
[07:00] <mikeru> pawan: read
[07:00] <guampa> http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.nomachine.com/download.php&sa=X&ei=aw1VTOvSOoeluAf9rJ2_BA&ved=0CBgQqwMoADAA&usg=AFQjCNGoy4-NowF521QIkGdQGHBNJAnN3g
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  im using 'tightvnc' what vnc did you install?
[07:00] <guampa> profxavier: are you in a terminal?
[07:00] <profxavier> sorry, i wasnt trying to be lazy
[07:00] <profxavier> i have the package now
[07:01] <profxavier> just about to install
[07:01] <profxavier> oh crap
[07:01] <profxavier> its the client O_o
[07:01] <pawan> thanks
[07:01] <FloodBot1> profxavier: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:01] <SubCool> Dr_Willis, i use Xtightvncviewer
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  and what vnc SERVER are you using?
[07:01] <Viking667> tightvnc/realvnc/ultravnc, there are probably others.
[07:01] <guampa> profxavier: http://www.nomachine.com/select-package.php?os=linux&id=1
[07:01] <ibrahim> guys do you know how can i install packages and programs when i am offline
[07:02] <SubCool> i want ultra, but i cant find the install that safe?
[07:02] <profxavier> guampa, those are the clients, not the server
[07:02] <Viking667> ibrahim: hm. Dump the packages into /var/cache/apt/archive  I guess... but there may be better alternatives
[07:02] <guampa> ibrahim: dpkg -i <packagefile>
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> ultravnc is a windows only vnc server/client - thats the one i nomrlly use on a windows box
[07:02] <SubCool> Dr_Willis, i followed the tightvnc instructions, but it looked like generic fiels.
[07:02] <lwizardl> hi
[07:02] <profxavier> sorry, I was lazy again
[07:02] <profxavier> found the server O_o
[07:03] <guampa> lol
[07:03] <lwizardl> I was wondering if someone could point me to a good guide for creating limited user accounts for the desktop users
[07:03] <ibrahim> guampa: And I can download the package files from synaptic right ?
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  all i did just today (an hr ago) on my server was ..  sudo apt-get install tightvncserver
[07:03] <hotfloppy> ibrahim: use APTonCD.. but you got to download the package first..
[07:03] <guampa> yes
[07:03] <SubCool> Dr_Willis, im pretty sure i have that
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  then ran 'vncserver' then answered the questions, then quit the server 'vncserver -kill :1'  then edited .vnc/xstartup as i wanted
[07:04] <SubCool> yep
[07:04] <profxavier> node and client are needed for server
[07:04] <ibrahim> hotfloppy: yes sure I will do this via synaptic download package files only option
[07:04] <guampa> profxavier: yes they are
[07:04] <OxDeadC0de> anyone know of a .deb or ppa that has jackd with portaudio support already working for 10.04?
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  i can then  ssh to the remote server. run 'vncserver'  then i monitor the logs (in another terminal/ssh session) tail -f ~/.vnc/server:\1.log
[07:05] <hotfloppy> yeah.. download the package then put it on CD/DVD..
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  i see my clients connect/disconnect in the log output
[07:05] <profxavier> crap
[07:05] <profxavier> nx user already on the system
[07:05] <pawan> hi
[07:05] <hotfloppy> ibrahim: yeah.. download the package then put it on CD/DVD..
[07:05] <profxavier> i guess I have to purge my other attempts at nx servers ?
[07:05] <pawan> in kubuntu i am getting 30 sec shutdwon message
[07:05] <pawan> how to disable it
[07:06] <hotfloppy> ibrahim: then you can install those package anytime you want..
[07:06] <guampa> profxavier: have you uninstalled the prev package?
[07:06] <shawnboy> Does anyone know GTK software that will burn audio CD using CUE sheets?
[07:06] <profxavier> guampa, I am now
[07:07] <pawan> whats up
[07:07] <guampa> sup
[07:08] <profxavier> ugh
[07:08] <profxavier> i am unsure of how to remove
[07:08] <profxavier> dpkg server.deb ?
[07:08] <Viking667> dpkg --purge name-of-package (without the-version.deb on the end)
[07:08] <hotfloppy> guys.. is it possible to share my files with another user on same pc ? but i want to share just specific files, not all.. for example, my home is /home/hotfloppy and the files' in /home/hotfloppy/MyFiles.. how to share only MyFiles ?
[07:09] <SubCool> Dr_Willis, tail -f ~/.vnc/server:\1.log
[07:09] <SubCool> $ tail -f ~/.vnc/server:\1.log
[07:09] <SubCool> tail: cannot open `/home/subcool/.vnc/server:1.log' for reading: No such file or directory
[07:09] <SubCool> tail: no files remaining
[07:09] <guampa> profxavier: pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep nx"
[07:09] <Viking667> Hang on. We're talking about ubuntu here, right? What'swrong with vino and Vinagre?
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  use tab to cpmplete the name properly perhaps.. see if the log is there..  thats what its called here.
[07:09] <Viking667> SubCool: hm. Do you have a /home/subcool/.vnc directory?
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  my vnc SERVER's name is 'server' :) yours may differ.
[07:10] <SubCool> my server name is "shitbucket"
[07:10] <SubCool> no joke
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  LOOK in the .vnc directory and see whats there
[07:10] <SubCool> :~/.vnc$ ls
[07:10] <SubCool> passwd  ShitBucket:1.log  ShitBucket:1.pid  ShitBucket:2.log  ShitBucket:2.pid  xstartup
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> There ya go.
[07:11] <Rabbitbunny> Ah ha, found the solution. When I upgraded to 10.04 my volume control disappeared from my panel. simply add the indicator applet to get it back. http://www.virtualhelp.me/linux/107-volume-controlicon-is-gone-ubuntu-1004
[07:11] <GladosS> Hi!
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  and you sem to have 2 vncsessions going (or had) you may want to clear out thiose log/pid files and be sure they are dead. (vncserver -kill :1) and (vncserver -kill :2)
[07:11] <GladosS> I need some help!
[07:11] <GladosS> Plz?
[07:11] <profxavier> ugh
[07:11] <profxavier> having issues because user nx is already on the system
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> GladosS:  state the problem.. and give us Cake.. :)
[07:12] <profxavier> how can I find which other 'nx' packages might be installed, causing the issue?
[07:12] <guampa> profxavier: delete it. run "userdel nx"
[07:12] <GladosS> The cake is a lie
[07:12] <guampa> profxavier: or check the output of "dpkg -l | grep nx"
[07:13] <GladosS> I new to Linux
[07:13] <profxavier> ok, looks like its installed, finally
[07:13] <GladosS> And I was wondering how to compile IE8?
[07:13] <profxavier> anything else I need to do ?
[07:13] <profxavier> or just try and connect with the client ?
[07:13] <bazhang> GladosS, you cant
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> GladosS:  internet experlorer 8? where did you even get the source to it at?
[07:14] <R3cur51v3> GladosS, use Firefox
[07:14] <guampa> profxavier: pgrep nx -l
[07:14] <R3cur51v3> Internet Explorer is not available on Liniux
[07:14] <bazhang> GladosS, windows issues in ##windows
[07:14] <R3cur51v3> Linux
[07:14] <guampa> see if it is running some daemon
[07:14] <GladosS> RLY?   I really wanted to run IE8 =/
[07:16] <guampa> takes a little messing with the keys
[07:16] <profxavier> i can just copy my ssh key into that folder...
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> GladosS:  use windows then.
[07:16] <jasonmchristos> how do i get to listen to mty computer over the bluetooth?
[07:16] <poopsmith> I cant get into the hardware channel it says invite only
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> jasonmchristos:  bluetooth headset you mean?
[07:17] <bazhang> GladosS, that has nothing to do with Ubuntu support
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> poopsmith:  its proerly 'regiestered nicks' only.
[07:17] <jasonmchristos> yes Dr
[07:17] <bazhang> !register > poopsmith
[07:17] <GladosS> I'm poor and I dont have the money for it, thats why I went to ubuntu
[07:17] <bazhang> poopsmith, /join #freenode for help with that
[07:17] <guampa> profxavier: if you already have a key pair, paste the public in its own line in /var/lib/nxserver/home/.ssh/authorized_leys2
[07:17] <eternaltyro> can someone help me play youtube videos on firefox using only LOSS plugins ??
[07:17] <Viking667> GladosS: let me guess - you play Portal?
[07:17] <Viking667> eternaltyro: LOSS? Or FLOSS?
[07:17] <guampa> profxav¡er: the private you paste it in the config dialog in the client
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> jasonmchristos:  i paired mine up, and selected the bluetooth headset in the 'sound preferances' tool (click on speaker icon) and checked that headset. and it worked.. i was amazed
[07:18] <GladosS> Well yeah I play Portal... why whats wrong with that?
[07:18] <Viking667> GladosS: I thought I recognised the reference.
[07:18] <TingPing> GladosS, portal is awesome, nothing wrong with that =)
[07:18] <bazhang> GladosS, did you have an ubuntu support question?
[07:18] <Viking667> Good game, that.
[07:18] <jasonmchristos> Dr_Willis: well mines not showing in sound let me reboot
[07:18] <GladosS> Thats why I'm here. I need a browser
[07:18] <GladosS> That works with ubuntu
[07:19] <Viking667> what sort of browser
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> GladosS:  firefox, opera, google's browser, or chromium
[07:19] <GladosS> But the IE8 d/l dose nothing when I click
[07:19] <Viking667> or midori
[07:19] <bazhang> !browsers > GladosS
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> GladosS:   and it never will...
[07:19] <seidos> how can I install firefox 3.6.8?  I couldn't find anything on google.
[07:19] <Viking667> GladosS: you can't run IE8 (successfully) inside Ubuntu
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> seidos:  find the tar.gz extract it in yoru users home dir.. run the binaries from the directory it makes.. (but its a work in progress) :)
[07:20] <GladosS> So how do I get another browser?
[07:20] <seidos> Dr_Willis, all right, that's what I'm already doing.  I thought I could make a nifty icon and what not.  Thanks Dr_Willis
[07:20] <profxavier> guampa, so it doesnt use my ssh stuff directly
[07:20] <profxavier> like my key
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> GladosS:  firefox is instaklled by defauilt.
[07:20] <GladosS> I thought u had to pay for firefox
[07:20] <profxavier> i have to add it into this dir
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> GladosS:  since when?
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> GladosS:  you are confused I guess.. its free.
[07:20] <GladosS> I went to some site and it wanted me to pay for it
[07:20] <profxavier> oh wait, can I just make a [shortcut] to it ?
[07:21] <guampa> profxavier: no by default it uses its own pair of keys
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> GladosS:   its in the default ubunti installs.. so run it from your menus.
[07:21] <R3cur51v3> Occasionally, black and white lines will appear across my ThinkPad's screen for a split second. Is this likely to be a driver issue, or is the screen going bad? They appear only occasionally, and they don't seem to have worsened significantly since they started.
[07:21] <GladosS> Which menu?
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> !manual | GladosS
[07:21] <guampa> profxavier: a link? ln -s /longpathtonx somename
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> GladosS:  time to read the manual.. good luck.
[07:22] <Viking667> GladosS: you don't actually have to pay for any browser except for possibly Opera.
[07:22] <profxavier> i dont see where to add the key on the client side
[07:22] <GladosS> What you wont help me find it??
[07:22] <bazhang> !manual | GladosS have a read
[07:22] <R3cur51v3> Occasionally, black and white lines will appear across my ThinkPad's screen for a split second. Is this likely to be a driver issue, or is the screen going bad? They appear only occasionally, and they don't seem to have worsened significantly since they started. My computer has an integrated Intel graphics card.
[07:22] <guampa> profxavier: go to the "configure..." button
[07:22] <[thor]> GladosS: start by clicking Applications on the gnome panel, and then take your best guess
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> GladosS:  put fort some effort and look.. perhaps. Its not like its  hidden. Bit Firefox Icon. with the words 'firefox'  next to them
[07:22] <GladosS> Wow. You guys aren't much help =/
[07:23] <GladosS> [thor] thanks man.
[07:23] <bazhang> GladosS, applications ---> internet---->Firefox
[07:23] <Viking667> GladosS: sorry, what help were you wanting, again?
[07:23] <guampa> there on the first tab you'll see a Key button
[07:23] <GladosS> THey answered it. Thanks so much!
[07:23] <Viking667> who's "they"?
[07:23] <neeraj> teamview alternative for ubuntu/debian?
[07:23] <profxavier> hmm, guess I cannot reconfig it to use auth._keys2
[07:23] <profxavier> ill just copy it
[07:23] <neeraj> *teamviewer
[07:23] <Viking667> neeraj: huh? There is one?
[07:24] <SubCool> Dr_Willis, ?
[07:24] <neeraj> Viking667: not sure.. thats y asking
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> SubCool:  Huh??
[07:24] <Viking667> neeraj: try this:   http://www.google.com/linux?q=teamviewer+alternatives&num=100
[07:24] <[thor]> SubCool: Dr_Willis: waht?
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> Now whers that any key at.....
[07:25] <Viking667> That'll give you the first hundred google hits specific-ish to Linux
[07:25] <SubCool> Dr_Willis, sorry, nvm
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:25] <profxavier> hahaha, ugh
[07:26] <neeraj> Viking667: DId that already but didn't got nything quickly so thought of asking on channel
[07:26] <profxavier> you key is protected by a passphrase...
[07:26] <neeraj> NM, I will dig then :)
[07:26] <Viking667> yup. Sorry. Tried sourceforge.net or freshmeat.org?
[07:26] <Viking667> I don't know how relevant freshmeat is any more, as I haven't used it for ages.
[07:27]  * Viking667 likes that exit message.
[07:27] <Hidnshadows> hello
[07:27] <Hidnshadows> I'm having some problems
[07:27] <siteswapper> rg
[07:27] <guest> l
[07:27] <profxavier> arent we all Hidnshadows, arent we all
[07:28] <Hidnshadows> I'm using i386... is that a bad thing? I've looked at how to change login and splas
[07:28] <Hidnshadows> h screens, but none of it makes sense, none of the menus are correct
[07:28] <SubCool> its late- im calling it a night- thanks for your helps guys.
[07:28] <SubCool> gnite
[07:28] <Hidnshadows> Night
[07:28] <guampa> nite
[07:28] <iammisc> I have three 100gb hard disks which I'd like to install ubuntu on. But I'd like them to appear as one disk. This is possible with the linux mdadm driver. However, Does 10.04 desktop edition support this setup? or will I have to use the alternate installation cd?
[07:28] <iammisc> And if I use the alternate cd, will I get the same desktop features?
[07:29] <Hidnshadows> is i386 the newest version, or did I do something wrong?
[07:29] <guampa> iammisc: afaik yes and yes
[07:29] <hiexpo> Hidnshadows,  i386 is 32 bit
[07:30] <iammisc> guampa: Will the alternate cd ask me if I want to install the desktop packages?
[07:30] <Hidnshadows> it said it was the preferred for most users, and I'm running it on a netbook
[07:30] <SubCool> #topic
[07:30] <ibrahim> is there an easy software for backing up my system or clonning it ?
[07:30] <guampa> iammisc: haven't used it for a long while, but i ended up with a desktop with alt installer
[07:31] <Hidnshadows> which alternate installer? just wondering
[07:31] <guampa> so yes it installed the desktop packages
[07:31]  * Viking667 disconnects
[07:31] <iammisc> Okay cool. Thanks for your help. I'm trying to migrate my setup from gentoo to ubuntu. Gentoo's nice but my parents can't wrangle with portage. haha
[07:31] <profxavier> guampa, so I should just use the default generated keys?
[07:32] <profxavier> or can I use my password protected ones ?
[07:32] <Hidnshadows> so I'm guessing the 32-bit system has been cut down to run?
[07:33] <ibrahim> Can i clone my system and install it on another pc ?
[07:33] <profxavier> ibrahim, sure can
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> ibrahim:  thats possible.
[07:33] <Hidnshadows> I would think that just installing it there would be easier
[07:34] <ibrahim> profxavier: how to this
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> Yep. it can cause issues..
[07:34] <guampa> profxavier: don't know for sure if it supports passphrased keys
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> I wonder how the UUID's would gethandled.. that could be a problem
[07:34] <guampa> letme check
[07:34] <profxavier> ibrahim, are they using similar hardware ?
[07:34] <Hidnshadows> so is there any way to change splash or login screens on 32Bit?
[07:34] <ibrahim> profxavier: actually no so i guess it will not work right ?
[07:35] <Janus5> I just wish to say: To anyone that contributes to this OS, THANK YOU.
[07:35] <profxavier> ibrahim, well, its not the best solution, no
[07:35] <guampa> profxavier: it looks like it don't
[07:35] <profxavier> guampa, agreed
[07:35] <profxavier> so, ill use the generated keys, I guess
[07:35] <ibrahim> profxavier: well can you please tell me how to back up my system anyway ?
[07:35] <profxavier> so do I have to reconfig sshd ?
[07:36] <guampa> anyway try first with the default ones
[07:36] <profxavier> or thats just a totally seperate service ?
[07:36] <ibrahim> profxavier: i tried clonezilla but it was a bit hard to a newbie like me.
[07:36] <guampa> profxavier: no it uses your existing sshd
[07:36] <mmfb> I'm currently trying to play Hitman: Codename 47 through Wine 1.2-rc3 But when I try to run hitman.exe I get this error message; "Direct3D: No suitable hardware found". What happened?
[07:36] <profxavier> ibrahim, how many PCs are you attempting to deploy to ?
[07:36] <profxavier> guampa, so ill have to not allow password enabled keys?
[07:36] <Hidnshadows> @mmfb are you using a graphics card?
[07:37] <profxavier> in its entirity
[07:37] <guampa> profxavier: if you are using the AllowUsers option, be sure to add the nx  user to the list
[07:37] <ibrahim> profxavier: I will only use it on my laptop because different hardware on the computers.
[07:37] <guampa> profxavier: no not at all, you can accept them in the server, just don't use them for the nx session
[07:38] <guampa> use different pairs of keys
[07:38] <profxavier> let me try this
[07:38] <Janus5> Anyone know how to shrink one's swap space?
[07:38] <Hidnshadows> Hang on, 1372 users in this room? why aren't they actively chatting? are they just lurkers?
[07:38] <mmfb> Hidnshadows: Yes, NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version 173)
[07:39] <Janus5> Hidnshadows: That's a LOT of lurkage.
[07:40] <profxavier> wth
[07:40] <guampa> Hidnshadows: if 1371 people had to chat in the same room how would anybody understood anything? :D
[07:40] <euphorial> Lots of IRC clients setup in ubuntu/kubuntu
[07:40] <profxavier> not working, says the same issue
[07:40] <euphorial> etc
[07:40] <euphorial> it sets them to come here
[07:40] <bazhang> Hidnshadows, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:40] <profxavier> can I not directly copy the key from within vi to the NX client window?
[07:40] <R3cur51v3> Occasionally, black and white lines will appear across my ThinkPad's screen for a split second. Is this likely to be a driver issue, or is the screen going bad? They appear only occasionally, and they don't seem to have worsened significantly since they started. My computer has an integrated Intel graphics card.
[07:40] <bazhang> Hidnshadows, this is support only
[07:41] <Hidnshadows> I know, and I came here with a question
[07:41] <Janus5> Question: Is there a way to adjust the size of one's Swap Partition?
[07:41] <guampa> profxavier: yes the private one
[07:41] <casualjim> hi guys, I'm having trouble making java based daemons to start from upstart, init.d or rc.local
[07:41] <euphorial> of course you can, but you might compromise your current installation/boot/files/etc.
[07:41] <Hidnshadows> So basically, don't expect entire customization with the 32 bit version?
[07:41] <blitzo> can someone point me to a URL that clarifies the difference between kubuntu, xubuntu, and ubuntu?
[07:42] <profxavier> weird
[07:42] <profxavier> im tired
[07:42] <profxavier> i give up
[07:42] <Hidnshadows> Night profxavier
[07:42] <euphorial> I installed kubuntu primarily because of the KDE environment.
[07:42] <Janus5> Ah, so poor idea. When I originally installed Ubuntu, I WAY overdid the size of my Swap.
[07:42] <guampa> profxavier: happend exactly like you the first time
[07:42] <euphorial> ubuntu is gnome oriented and works with different programs
[07:42] <guampa> tomorrow it will work, just read up some docs
[07:42] <Janus5> I tried Kubuntu a long time ago, but had problems finding software.
[07:42] <guampa> it's not too difficult
[07:43] <Hidnshadows> Okay, I'll just take that silence as an affirmative. Night guys, and thanks for helping everyone
[07:43] <euphorial> In the end, it's all ubuntu, just different environmental things, and different programs.
[07:43] <blitzo> can someone point me to a URL that clarifies the difference between kubuntu, xubuntu, and ubuntu?
[07:43] <profxavier> everything done under linux is difficult
[07:43] <euphorial> Have you tried google or ubuntu.com ?
[07:43] <Hidnshadows> blizto, the only thing I can think of would be to just Wiki them
[07:43] <profxavier> whether you say it or not :D
[07:43] <Niglop> Is there a way I can make it so my terminal is always the size I want?
[07:43] <euphorial> Everything about *ubuntu is on the sites.
[07:43] <Hidnshadows> Night
[07:44] <blitzo> Niglop, create a profile for your terminal - you can specify the screensize
[07:44] <Janus5> I tried Googling about 'resize swap space', but what I found tended to be about live disks. Unless maybe I NEED a live disk to perform such an operation.
[07:44] <Niglop> thanks blitzo
[07:44] <mmfb> I'm currently trying to play Hitman: Codename 47 through Wine 1.2-rc3 but when I try to run hitman.exe I get this error message: "Direct3D: No suitable hardware found" I'm running a NVIDIA V.173 driver, so what happened?
[07:44] <blitzo> Janus5, why do u need to resize swap
[07:44] <guampa> profxavier: won't deny it, but it changes over time :D
[07:44] <Janus5> I would not say everything under Linux is hard, but it you're an old DOS hand like myself, things like "Sudo" and whatnot make the eyes spin. =)
[07:45] <Niglop> blitzo»  i created a new profile, how do i specify the screensize?
[07:45] <blitzo> Niglop, it's one of the options
[07:45] <guampa> also i agree with Janus5, i'm a cli junkie
[07:45] <Niglop> blitzo»  i looked but i cant find it?
[07:45] <profxavier> guampa, its like when I wanted to play guitar, I just wanted to wake up someday and I was great at it
[07:45] <blitzo> Niglop, hang on i go look
[07:46] <profxavier> that day, never happened
[07:46] <Niglop> tnkas
[07:46] <Niglop> thanks**
[07:46] <Janus5> Blitzo: I have a 2GB RAM system and made my swap space about 18GB. WAY overkill.
[07:46] <guampa> profxavier: yes, but the click happens always, that's the oblig mindset
[07:47] <Janus5> I need a book or something on Ubuntu 10, or some overall guide, really, before I get anywhere NEAR as comphy in *nix as I am in Windows.
[07:47] <Janus5> Even *sigh* Vista.
[07:47] <bazhang> !manual | Janus5
[07:47] <blitzo> Niglop, if you are using the default terminal, click on 'terminal' and it is one of the options.  just explore them.
[07:48] <Niglop> sorry blitzo  accidently disconnected, what did you say?
[07:48] <Janus5> Thanks, Bazhang, ubottu. Hopefully, I can resize the swap without killing the PC.
[07:48] <profxavier> ok, so two keys are generated
[07:48] <bareego> Janus5, just keep using it, you be fine
[07:48] <profxavier> on my client, I can click default
[07:48] <bareego> and fiddle with stuff
[07:48] <profxavier> and that generates a private key
[07:49] <profxavier> also, in /var/lib/nxserver/home/.ssh there was a key
[07:49] <profxavier> which is a public key
[07:49] <blitzo> Janus5, theoretically your swap shouldn't exceed 1.5x the size of physical memory but i don't know as if it will really slow the system that much.  still, if i had to resize it, i think i'd boot off a livecd, delete the swap partition, and make a new one.  i can't see how you'd recover the lost space, it won't be part of any partition
[07:49] <profxavier> what am I missing ?
[07:49] <bareego> depends on the file system
[07:50] <guampa> profxavier: what error exactly does it give you? it has a details display
[07:50] <Janus5> Blitzo: Gotcha. I'll Need to go get a LiveCD image then. I've been doing a lot of x264 encoding and web surfing, never saw swap space exceed 100MB. Hence my thinking 18GB is a trife overkill.
[07:50] <kk9822> hi
[07:51] <guampa> profxavier: also on the server run "tailf /var/log/secure" while you connect, it will show useful info
[07:51] <blitzo> Janus5, use gparted to do that - which might not be on the livecd.  so after you boot the livecd, go to a shell and "apt-get install gparted".  or you could use fdisk if you are more comfortable with that
[07:51] <Janus5> I installed Ubuntu 8 then gave up 'till the other day when I restarted it, updated to 10, and made an effort to learn it this time.
[07:51] <profxavier> how about tailing auth?
[07:51] <profxavier> i never knew there was a tailf
[07:51] <Janus5> Blitzo - gparted, got it. This is NOT something that should be attempted on a running system, correct?
[07:52] <blitzo> Janus5, the problem is if you get into using the swap, having an excessively large space defined can make your system slow.
[07:52] <guampa> tailf is a great tool
[07:52] <kk9822> i have a prob i cant update my ubuntu 10.04
[07:52] <blitzo> Janus5, you cannot remove the swap space on system that is using it
[07:52] <profxavier> i always just use tail, with the flag
[07:52] <Janus5> Blitzo: That may explain a few things; it's at 18GB now, I was going to shrink the swap down to 3GB or something.
[07:52] <Janus5> Understood.
[07:53] <guampa> it's an alias almost
[07:53] <profxavier> now auth fails
[07:53] <blitzo> Janus5, make it 1.5 physical ram
[07:53] <profxavier> i must have messed something up
[07:53] <kk9822> when i try to do  it gives error like this ailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[07:53] <kk9822> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[07:53] <kk9822> pl help me
[07:53] <^Jay2^> aside from gyachi, is there a better yahoo messenger replacement that supports voice and video calls?
[07:53] <Janus5> I had originally created the partitions in Vista; naturally, the Windows application I had used can't modify it anymore, as it has no clue what the file systems linux uses are.
[07:53] <kk9822> it is since 12 days i updated
[07:53] <blitzo> Janus5, windows also uses swap but they don't give you options to config at setup time
[07:53] <Janus5> Blitzo: 1.5? Awesome.
[07:53] <guampa> profxavier: the only way to know what is wrong is to find out what error the server/client are indicating
[07:53] <profxavier> kk9822, copy your 'sudo apt-get update' to pastebin
[07:54] <profxavier> that would be really helpful
[07:54] <^Jay2^> sorry not yahoo messenger replacement but gyachi replacement. I need yahoo messenger voice and video call
[07:54] <blitzo> Janus5, 1.5 times physical ram.  if you have 4g of ram, make your swap 6g
[07:54] <Janus5> I'
[07:54] <guampa> profxavier: so tail all the logs you can
[07:54] <Janus5> I've 2GB.
[07:54] <blitzo> Janus5, then 3g is a fair number
[07:54] <Suit_Of_Sables> is there a nondestructive way to set up your partition tables? or is only the resizing of existing partitions with GParted potentially nondestructive? rEFIt's sycn function tells me my GPT and MBR partition tables overlap
[07:54] <Janus5> Older Gateway I'm flogging to death. The new toys come with 6GB these days. Wow.
[07:54] <profxavier> yeah, just tailed auth.log
[07:54] <profxavier> and there was an issue
[07:55] <blitzo> Janus5, the 1.5 is not a hard and fast rule
[07:55] <profxavier> Jul 31 23:59:57 profx-ubuntu sshd[10996]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user nx by (uid=0)
[07:55] <profxavier> Jul 31 23:59:59 profx-ubuntu sshd[10996]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session closed for user nx
[07:55] <profxavier> but I do have sshd setup to only allow keys
[07:55] <profxavier> so do I have to use a different user ?
[07:55] <Janus5> Blitzo: Your advice seems sound, though. I'll probably not even use 3GB, but I want to be ready should I ever decide to try playing Fallout via WINE.
[07:56] <blitzo> Janus5, linux is extremely efficient with ram - 2g ram is not enough to run any windows version but more than enough for any linux
[07:56] <blitzo> Janus5, better to be too big than too small!!!
[07:56] <guampa> profxavier: i remember having the same problem
[07:56] <guampa> letme check
[07:56] <blitzo> Janus5, do you know what swap is?
[07:56] <Janus5> Blitzo: Tell me about it. Vista uses 1.4BG or so AT STARTUP. And this Gateway (GT5408, Core2Duo e4300) came with ONE GIG.
[07:57] <kk9822> nothing is happening profxavier
[07:57] <Janus5> Blitzo: Swap being the physical space on an HDD that an OS uses when RAM becomes too packed?
[07:57] <profxavier> kk9822, are you sure?
[07:57] <profxavier> sudo apt-get update OR sudo aptitude update
[07:58] <guampa> profxavier:hang on i think i have it
[07:58] <kk9822> nothing is happening profxavierrkk5413
[07:58] <blitzo> Janus5, when your system runs low on physical ram, it writes out part of its memory to swap to free it up for other things.  when the running program whose memory has been swapped starts running again, its memory copy is read back in off of disk.  if you run out of swap you will crash
[07:59] <profxavier> kk9822, paste the output, into pastebin.ca, anyways
[07:59] <profxavier> lets have a look
[07:59] <profxavier> kk9822, also, cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:59] <profxavier> and pastebin that too
[07:59] <Janus5> Blitzo: Thanks, it's been a long while... used to be IT Support (end-user) but that was some time back now. Now... I'm busted back to Level1 Nubie.
[08:00] <kk9822> prof it finished updating next what
[08:00] <guampa> profxavier: are you running sshd on port 22 ?
[08:00] <profxavier> kk9822, what do you want to do ?
[08:00] <profxavier> guampa, have always been :D
[08:00] <crash_> Linux is infinitely customizable, right?
[08:00] <kk9822> i wnt to update ubuntu and my update manager should work
[08:00] <blitzo> Janus5, when you start running low on both physical and swap, your system will thrash - copying back and forth between swap and physical memory quickly, the harddisk goes berserk and system slows to a crawl.  you don't want to get to that.  use enough swap.  1.5 times to 2 times physical ram is about right
[08:00] <profxavier> crash, every computer software has its limitations
[08:00] <guampa> crash_: to the last quark
[08:01] <profxavier> quark O_o
[08:01] <profxavier> qubit :D
[08:01] <guampa> :D
[08:01] <crash_> Then how do I make it so that when I select a text box, having the cursor on the right side of the caret actually selects that text instead of the text opposite?
[08:01] <profxavier> i wonder if ill be alive during quantum computing...
[08:01] <profxavier> i do hope so :D
[08:02] <Janus5> Blitzo: Will do. I'll shrink it down to 4GB. That should be enough, based off of what you're saying, for a 2GB system. Linux,as you said, seems to use RAM very efficiently, unlike Vista, which is my other OS here.
[08:02] <Tonius> Hi! Can you help me? I want to my bond0 is work, when I turn off first link or second... And speed must be 200mb/s (eth0 and eth1 - 100mb/s) What mode i need to use ?
[08:02] <Janus5> Blitzo: I figure I might not even need 4GB ,but better safe than sorry. I DO know my current 18GB is silly, though.
[08:03] <profxavier> lol
[08:03] <profxavier> 18GB for ?
[08:03] <kk9822> how do i paste to bin
[08:03] <bareego> Janus5, depends what you wanna run on it, if it's just a desktop your normally don't need much at all
[08:03] <profxavier> kk9822, pastebin.ca
[08:04] <bareego> if it's a proxy server with big databases etc it might be a different story
[08:04] <abhijit> !paste | kk9822
[08:04] <profxavier> kk9822, copy text, paste it into site, click button, supply room with URL
[08:04] <[thor]> pastebinit is the way of the future heh
[08:04] <Janus5> bareego: Yup, just a desktop. Of late, I've done a LOT of h.264 encoding in handbrake, and MAY at some point try Fallout 3 via Wine. (Or I'll just use Windows for that).
[08:04] <kk9822> pl give me the terminal command
[08:04] <picard1421> nhey whe ni do ./configure --with is there a without? command or is it --with-whatever=false???
[08:05] <[thor]> Kk9822: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[08:05] <Grivvel> Heya. Does anybody know if there's a good X-Windows channel? I'm looking for some information about xlib (specifically, how to get an XID for an existing window by name)
[08:05] <Janus5> Hmm. Let's see what THIS does...
[08:05] <profxavier> [thor] :D
[08:05] <bareego> only done 264 encoding with mencoder.. but even that shouldn't use much ram at all
[08:05] <profxavier> guampa, anymore ideas ?
[08:05] <bareego> I used to do that on my 64MB xbox running debian
[08:06] <bareego> and it never ran out of ram
[08:06] <profxavier> what?
[08:06] <profxavier> 18GBs of RAM in your 20GB HD ?
[08:06] <[thor]> kk9822: once pastebinit is installed it is ' foo | pastebinit ' where foo is your desired command line
[08:06] <guampa> profxavier: can you pastebin a grep -R NX /var/log ?
[08:07] <Janus5> Nope, not much at all.  AND it's 64-Bit, no less.
[08:07] <kk9822> thanks prof i think it works now
[08:07] <CkhiKuzad> are there any programs to merge a rar file's split contents into one rar?
[08:07] <profxavier> auth failed errors, everywhere
[08:07] <bareego> and ubuntu uses a lot, too
[08:07] <Janus5> Wow, 64MB
[08:07] <profxavier> im beat, I think ill pick this up tomorrow
[08:08] <Janus5> No, I've got a 1TB drive, split 50/50 between Win Vista, and Ubuntu.
[08:08] <bareego> my xbox ran my torrent client, samba file server and was encoding my 264 for me
[08:08] <kishajos> Is there anybody who plays World of Warcraft on his/her Linux PC?
[08:08] <Janus5> Ahh, that's cool! Using the old XBOX for something other than gaming.
[08:09] <bareego> got sick of it though now... if there is an issue and I can't ssh I have to go hook it up to tv
[08:09] <Janus5> Not to bad considering the original XBOX was naught but a slightly specialized PC.
[08:09] <Krishnandu> Hey guys...I'm using Deluge but it never seeds
[08:09] <guampa> allright, better luck tomorrow !
[08:09] <Grivvel> Heya. Does anybody know if there's a good X-Windows channel? I'm looking for some information about xlib (specifically, how to get an XID for an existing window by name)
[08:09] <profxavier> hopefully :}
[08:09] <Janus5> I've heard of X-Windows, but don't know anything about it, Grivvel. Wish I could answer your inquiry.
[08:09] <bareego> gonna whack a lil 500GB drive in the xbox and sell it cheap on ebay
[08:10] <Grivvel> Janus5: Well, thanks for the thought. (X-Windows is the window manager Ubuntu uses by default)
[08:10] <bareego> ah, btw, does anyone know if you can use a normal dvd drive on an xbox with chromwell bios ?
[08:11] <jsnems> hi
[08:11] <Janus5> Grivvel: So GNOME or KDE is... what, a front-end or wrapper around X-Windows, or is X-Windows the actual file system?
[08:12] <Krishnandu> Hye guys please help me with deluge. It never seeds :(
[08:12] <bareego> Janus5, that'll get confusing.. cause your have the xserver which gives you the grahpical ability, then windowmanager and gui
[08:12] <Janus5> It's cool you used your XBOX is such a way. So much console hardware is never used to it's potential. One of the reasons I love my PS3 is that it can run Folding@Home and contribute something beyond just games.
[08:13] <Janus5> Heh heh. Okay, I'll read up on it. I was under the impression X-Windows was something like GNOME or what-have-you. I've much to learn.
[08:13] <jigal> what is the proper way to reinstall apache.  I just resized my swap. I'll add the newly freed space to the main partition later.
[08:14] <viraj> Can anyone help me: I need to figure out how to use xchat in a proxy
[08:14] <[thor]> CkhiKuzad: i just tried "rar x example_with_multiple_parts.rar | rar a test.rar"
[08:14] <[thor]> output is slooooow
[08:14] <rkvirani> I need a twitter Gadget on my Ubuntu Desktop... Where would I start?
[08:14] <Janus5> grampa, Grivvel: Thanks for the info! Every little bit helps me get a better feel for Linux and I really appreciate it.
[08:14] <CkhiKuzad> but did it work [thor] ?
[08:15] <[thor]> still waiting
[08:15] <guampa> np Janus
[08:15] <abhijit> viraj, http://xchat.org/faq/#q25
[08:15] <Janus5> No kidding about the PS3. I wasn't going to use it for a PC, but I imagine a LOT of users are tickedabout the sudden removal of a very nice function.
[08:15] <[thor]> CkhiKuzad: i think it is decompressing to memory or something
[08:15] <bareego> Janus5, KDE and gnome are kindof huge, you can get MUCH smaller guis and windowmanagers
[08:16] <Janus5> rkvirani: I think Pidgin is well-loved. Does it do Tritter?
[08:16] <rkvirani> XFCE is good
[08:16] <viraj> Thanks. also, will it work when the proxy in my university asks for a username and pass to access the net
[08:16] <Krishnandu> Hey friends, Please help me with deluge
[08:16] <Krishnandu> It never seeds
[08:16] <rkvirani> Janus5: check out XFCE
[08:16] <bareego> I used xfce now on lxde
[08:16] <rkvirani> apt-get install xubuntu-desktop :D
[08:16] <abhijit> viraj, see on their docs. i just found that link on google.
[08:16] <rkvirani> lxde eh
[08:16] <rkvirani> hrm...
[08:16] <guampa> fluxbox is good and small too
[08:16] <bareego> lubuntu !
[08:17] <rkvirani> lubuntu?
[08:17] <Janus5> So, smaller guis such as xfce would be useful for older hardware, correct?
[08:17] <bareego> ubuntu on lxde
[08:17] <Krishnandu> Guys please help with deluge. It never seeds
[08:17] <Janus5> I've an old Celeron 1.8 that may be able to use that.
[08:17] <guampa> they demand lots less cpu power
[08:17] <bareego> Janus5, it'll fly on it
[08:18] <bareego> you can still install your fav kde/gnome apps and use them if you must
[08:18] <abhijit> viraj, ask in #xchat
[08:18] <Janus5> Good to know. The Celeron is acting as a phone and printer server at the moment on a VERY old copy of WinXP (legal) that I can't update because it breaks MagicJack's functionality.
[08:18] <Bones> this is probably not a chat for ultimate droid support, eh?
[08:19] <Janus5> Damnit Bones, I'm a newbie, not a... er... cell tower!
[08:19] <bareego> lol
[08:19] <Bones> sorry
[08:19] <Bones> bye
[08:19] <Janus5> LOL
[08:19] <NightKhaos> I need to install an (old) piece of software for University that depends on glib1.2. Of course, libglib1.2-dev is not in the default packages for Ubuntu 10. How can I install libglib1.2-dev?
[08:19] <Janus5> I see "Bones"and I think "Awesome, kindly doctor".
[08:19] <[thor]> Krishnandu: have you used a firewall config tool, or 'ufw' in the commandline to open the ports that deluge is using?
[08:20] <rkvirani> NightKhaos: I think if you add an old repo it will become available to you...
[08:20] <rkvirani> ... or just download the source and compile the code you need.
[08:20] <rkvirani> do a static compile
[08:20] <jigal> what is the proper way to reinstall apache. I had installed zend server and now i want to remove everything and reinstall apache on a normal way
[08:21] <Krishnandu> thor, Nope, I'm using my modem in PPPoE mode.
[08:21] <NightKhaos> rkvirani: I'd like to avoid installing from source where possible... okay, how do I add an old repo?
[08:21] <titus> pathafrica2
[08:21] <Krishnandu> [thor], Nope, but I'm using my modem in PPPoE mode
[08:22] <frimend> I have troubles booting from a burned dvd.
[08:22] <frimend> Am I obliged to burn ubuntu on a regular CD, to be able to boot it up?
[08:22] <bareego> frimend, exactly what problem
[08:22] <titus> heoo
[08:22] <titus> hello
[08:22] <frimend> I get a blinking "_" when trying to boot.
[08:22] <frimend> Nothing happends.
[08:22] <Janus5> Hello Titus. How goes defending Spira?
[08:22] <[thor]> CkhiKuzad: that rar experiment didn't work.. my syntax is wrong
[08:23] <CkhiKuzad> damn. well i guess i am stuck with this file being screwed up
[08:23] <bareego> frimend, could be...also try to keep burn speed as low as possible
[08:23] <[thor]> CkhiKuzad: i know there must be a commandline to do that procedure, but i don't know the argument to specify using the output of one command as the input of another command.
[08:23] <[thor]> other than piping
[08:23] <frimend> I am in a tight spot then.
[08:24] <frimend> I have 200+ blank dvds.
[08:24] <frimend> No cd. :<
[08:24] <bareego> know the feeling... I keep a spare cdrw though
[08:24] <Taev> something really strange is going on with my system guys I need help. No matter what browser I use, its opening spam pages
[08:24] <Taev> like crazy
[08:24] <CkhiKuzad> frimend, you might want to set your BIOS to be bootable, if you havent done so?
[08:24] <bareego> you got an usb flash drive, you might go that way
[08:24] <NightKhaos> rkvirani:?
[08:24] <CkhiKuzad> cd-bootable**
[08:24] <Taev> Im at a loss.
[08:24] <[thor]> Krishnandu: if the firewall is blocking the port that deluge is using, it shouldn't matter what your modem is using,.
[08:24] <Janus5> A linux... virus? Odd.
[08:24] <[thor]> err
[08:25] <Taev> every few seconds a new browser, whether in Opera or Firefox opens to junk sites
[08:25] <NightKhaos> Janus5: they are not unheard of. :P
[08:25] <bareego> Janus5, but they can't do much if you're properly setup
[08:25] <Taev> I tried clearing the cache, nothing, I looked for suspicious processes, none that jumped out at me
[08:25] <Janus5> NightKhaos: That's a shame, but to be expected.
[08:25] <[thor]> hosts file?
[08:25] <guampa> nite folks, dreamland awaits for my soul
[08:25] <picard1421> im trying to make opencv 2.0.0 without openmp how do i disable openMP????
[08:25] <Janus5> The best anti-virus is healthy skepticism and a load of caution.
[08:26] <[thor]> err.. dunno the linux equivalent
[08:26] <Krishnandu> [thor], Ok, so how to set that?? I did nothing
[08:26] <Janus5> Night, Guampa.
[08:26] <bareego> Janus5, and don't use root unless your really have to
[08:26] <frimend> CkhiKuzad: I think bios is set up accordingly. I can boot fine from all CDs
[08:26] <frimend> just not from DVDs
[08:26] <Krishnandu> [thor], one more thing if firewall is blocking the port then how come my downloading is working perfectly fine??
[08:26] <Janus5> bareego: I think I *am* Root at the moment. I only created one account when I installed Ubuntu.
[08:26] <frimend> I am now trying to burn a dvd at low speed, just to make sure.
[08:27] <CkhiKuzad> frimend, its possibly that your BIOS cant boot DVDs
[08:27] <bareego> don't go online as root, ever
[08:27] <bareego> hah
[08:27] <Janus5> How can I tell if I'm using the system as ROOT?
[08:27] <[thor]> Krishnandu: in deluge, Edit > Preferences > Network
[08:27] <bareego> run whoami
[08:27] <ubuntu> heya. my 3yr old windows xp box is on it's last legs. I'm running ubuntu right now off a flash drive, but it's not recognizing the wifi card - a dell inspiron 6400/e1505. ubuntu is telling me its the broadcom 4311 and it's installed it and reinstalled the drivers, but it keeps telling me it failed. Any suggestions?
[08:27] <Taev> so what could cause firefox and opera to launch pop up spam pages constantly?
[08:27] <bareego> !whoami
[08:27] <bareego> @whoami
[08:27] <[thor]> Krishnandu: copy active port, and open terminal
[08:28] <Janus5> Ah,good. I'm not ID'd as ROOT. =)
[08:28] <AviMarcus> hmph, that was a silly automatic screen name.
[08:28] <picard1421> anyone?
[08:28] <bareego> iirc irc chat clients will often complain if you use them as root
[08:28] <CkhiKuzad> [thor], the archive manager seems to allow you to merge and extract files with unrar :D
[08:28] <NightKhaos> bareego: yes, a lot do.
[08:28] <Krishnandu> [thor], ok then??
[08:28] <Janus5> Sorry, Jean-Luc, I cannot help you.
[08:28] <Taev> So I guess nobody has any suggestions..
[08:29] <picard1421> lol Janus
[08:29] <Janus5> Taev: I'm really sorry. That's.... I mean, when did that start happening?
[08:29] <picard1421> kk
[08:30] <picard1421> well i mean i thought iwas an ok fix..
[08:30] <[thor]> Krishnandu: sudo ufw allow <port#>
[08:30] <Taev> yesterday
[08:30] <Krishnandu> [thor], hey my firewall was disabled
[08:30] <Taev> I didn't make any system changes
[08:30] <bareego> AviMarcus, you might be able to use your old windows drivers with ndiswrapper
[08:30] <Janus5> Any websites you may have gone to that installed anything in your browser?
[08:31] <Krishnandu> [thor], do I've to post that #??
[08:31] <[thor]> Krishnandu: sudo ufw enable && ufw allow ##### && ufw status
[08:31] <AviMarcus> bareego: I've never used ubuntu before. How do I do that?
[08:31] <[thor]> where ##### is the port number
[08:31] <Taev> I didn't think they could do that under Linux
[08:31] <Taev> Assume I did, where would I look ?
[08:32] <Janus5> Cool, a Linux Firewall. Think I'll install that.
[08:32] <Janus5> Usually, your History folder... Have you tried clearing out your Browser's history, stored password, cache, etc?
[08:32] <AviMarcus> and there seems to be a native linux install in the package manager from the manufacturor.. just it's not working
[08:32] <Taev> its in Opera and Firefox
[08:33] <Taev> and I don't use Opera
[08:33] <Taev> i just fired it up now to see
[08:33] <Taev> and sure enough
[08:33] <Taev> i cleared firefox's cache, still happening
[08:33] <bareego> AviMarcus, when you run iwconfig do you get an entry for the wifi ?
[08:33] <Krishnandu> [thor], done
[08:33] <frimend> CkhiKuzad: I burned a new dvd at slowest possible speed, now it's booting. :)
[08:33] <frimend> Thanks for the help ppl!
[08:33] <AviMarcus> bareego: where do I get a commandline? :P
[08:34] <bareego> there should be an entry in accessories for a terminal
[08:34] <[thor]> Krishnandu: so now it should let incoming p2p connections to communicate on that port without your system initiating the connection
[08:34] <AviMarcus> got it
[08:34] <Janus5> Is there such thing as a Linux Anti-Virus, gents? It sounds like Taev has caught a cold. =)
[08:34] <[thor]> Krishnandu: aka being connectable
[08:34] <[thor]> clamAV
[08:34] <AviMarcus> lo        no wireless extensions.
[08:35] <AviMarcus> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[08:35] <Krishnandu> [thor] I'm sendig u a screenshot please see that
[08:35] <[thor]> janus5: clamAV is a likely suspect
[08:35] <Taev> I think maybe its some java exploit
[08:35] <AviMarcus> eth0 is this wired connection
[08:35] <bareego> good, so you have inet connection
[08:35] <yessir_turan> Janus5:
[08:35] <AviMarcus> well, I'm on irc on this machine, so yeah :)
[08:35] <yessir_turan> Janus5: Yes there is, because there are linux malware
[08:35] <Janus5> Taev, thor: the thing that gets me about your issue is that you don't use Opera, and yet it, too, is affected.
[08:35] <yessir_turan> just that they aren't widespread.
[08:36] <[thor]> i don't have an issue
[08:36] <Janus5> Think I'll install ClamAV as a preventative measure.
[08:36] <yessir_turan> Liking something is one thing, but turning a blind eye towards the other side would not be such a smart issue
[08:36] <NightKhaos> rkvirani: neverminded, figured it out all on my lonesome
[08:36] <Taev> BOTH my boxes are affected
[08:36] <Taev> I have 2 seperate machines
[08:36] <Taev> running ubuntu
[08:36] <yessir_turan> *smart tihng
[08:36] <Janus5> Sorry, Thor, I means Taev's issue. =)
[08:36] <yessir_turan> *smart thing
[08:36] <Taev> they are both doing the same things
[08:36] <thune3> Taev: so your router is hijacked?
[08:37] <Taev> i have a thinlinux router i made myself, I doubt it but its possible
[08:37] <Taev> you think?
[08:37] <Janus5> Hey, good idea: What's your network setup? Tell the more experienced people here: I'm not that brushed up on these things yet.
[08:37] <[thor]> Taev: you have a liveboot CD handy?
[08:37] <bareego> AviMarcus, now you basically want to do what's on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper from 3 onwards
[08:37] <bareego> AviMarcus, you might have to install ndiswrapper first with sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[08:38] <Janus5> Ahh, I LOVE Ubuntu's software center. So easy.
[08:38] <AviMarcus> k, I'll take a look, thanks bareego.
[08:38] <bareego> Janus5, yeah... make sure you install gimp
[08:39] <Taev> Yeah thor
[08:39] <Janus5> Gimp... image editor?
[08:39] <Janus5> Installed!
[08:39] <brandon420> heyy
[08:39] <bareego> yeah
[08:39] <bareego> u used it before ?
[08:39] <brandon420> can someone help me with nvidia drivers on freakin ubuntu?
[08:39] <bareego> it's similar to photoshop
[08:40] <Janus5> Not once. Let's load it up and see.
[08:40] <bareego> very powerful
[08:40] <Janus5> I've messed around in Paint.Net before in Vista.
[08:40] <[thor]> Taev: just thinking it might make for a mostly uncorruptable installation ( uninfected from a local bug )
[08:40] <[thor]> Taev: to rule out the comps as the source of the redirection
[08:40] <brandon420> can someone help me with nvidia driver on ubuntu? i cant use compiz or anything, and nexis is playing soo effed up
[08:41] <brandon420> i cant figure out whats wrong for my life
[08:41] <Janus5> Holy heck, that's a lot of options in GIMP.
[08:41] <jigal> hi I am looking for an up to date tutorial to install php mysql and apache any suggestions???????
[08:41] <brandon420> jigal, apt-get install php5 apache2 mysql-server
[08:42] <brandon420> can someone help me with the nvidia drivers?
[08:42] <ibrahim> What is the best way to learn using terminal ? I don't understand it i just copy and paste scripts
[08:42] <brandon420> i know someone has had to have this problem before
[08:42] <kucker> i have a question, http://pastebin.com/WuWuHkqa
[08:42] <rlankfo> ibrahim: read some manual pages
[08:43] <Janus5> Brandon420: Sorry, I'm a newbie. What's up, is the system hanging or something?
[08:43] <rlankfo> ibrahim: also, the bash manual would be a good place to start
[08:43] <brandon420> ibrahim, just read and try to understand what you are coping, thats what im doing
[08:43] <Krishnandu> [thor], on System > Administration > Firewall it's showing incoming: enabled and outgoing: enabled and a rule that  just added
[08:43] <[thor]> Krishnandu: that's right
[08:43] <ibrahim> rlankfo: brandon420 I will google it now thnx guys
[08:43] <brandon420> Janus5: i cant run compiz, or anything with open gl, its all glitchy
[08:44] <brandon420> ibrahim: your welcome, lol. just dont give up man
[08:44] <jigal> brandon420: tnx
[08:44] <Krishnandu> [thor], can u please explain what does that means?? I've everything enabled(both incoming and outgoing) then why I need to add rule for each port??
[08:44] <kucker> brandon420, http://pastebin.com/WuWuHkqa
[08:44] <tibz> ibrahim, terminal is a way to run commands one at a time, use "man bash" to learn more about the command interpreter, and "man apropos" to learn how to search man pages for what you seek...
[08:44] <brandon420> jigal: your welcome man
[08:44] <rlankfo> ibrahim: http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html
[08:44] <jigal> brandon420: hehe hope today will bringme more luck then last week ;-)
[08:45] <Janus5> Heh, Terminal. Took me a while before I understood what "Sudo" meant outside of a sound-alike from a Phil Collins song!
[08:45] <brandon420> jigal: what are you working on?
[08:45] <ibrahim> tibz thank you I will take that into consideration for sure
[08:45] <ibrahim> rlankfo: thank you ... reading
[08:46] <[thor]> Krishnandu: those drop-down boxes in the Firewall Configuration tool are the default states for all ports
[08:46] <jigal> brandon420: well was working on a zend framework project. But then decided to upgrade to TLS 10.04 and then it all begun. I am still busy to get my application working.
[08:46] <[thor]> Krishnandu: it should actually be Incoming DENY, outgoing ALLOW by default
[08:46] <Krishnandu> [thor], ya that means I'm allowing everything
[08:46] <Krishnandu> [thor], ok :)
[08:46] <[thor]> Krishnandu: and then you open specific ports for access
[08:46] <brandon420> kucker: im not sure how that is relevant to my graphics? sorry is im jsut miss understanding that...
[08:46] <Krishnandu> [thor], ok done:)
[08:46] <Krishnandu> thans
[08:47] <Krishnandu> Thanks
[08:47] <[thor]> np, that's what this channel is for
[08:47] <kucker> brandon420, ....
[08:47] <brandon420> jigal: lol, thats way ouyt of my leage, i know a little about setting up basic websites
[08:47] <drygrain> ;/
[08:47] <jigal> brandon420: no prob!!!
[08:48] <alexander_> i'm trying to import a module with python idle... but I don't know where the folder I'm supposed to save the module to is located. in usr/bin there are some things called python python 2 etc but they're not folders.
[08:48] <Janus5> This looks like a good channel just to hang out and soak up knowledge.
[08:48] <Krishnandu> [thor], ok thanks. Now I've Incoming Deny and Outgoing Allow and a rule TO #### Action Allow In From Anywhere
[08:48] <Krishnandu> [thor], is it ok now??
[08:48] <jigal> any apache experts over here?
[08:48] <[thor]> Krishnandu: that sounds exactly right.
[08:48] <Krishnandu> [thor], thanks a lot :)
[08:49] <brandon420> so can anyone help me get compiz and nexis working with nvidia 8800GS?
[08:49] <Krishnandu> [thor], something has changed to deluge but not getting upload speeds
[08:50] <[thor]> Krishnandu: it will take some time for peers to start connecting, as always
[08:50] <thune3> alexander_: see http://docs.python.org/tutorial/modules.html#the-module-search-path
[08:50] <bsh_> hi all.
[08:50] <Krishnandu> [thor], hmm it's showing 1(24) like that...previously that was not happening also
[08:51] <[thor]> yeah.. that's an open connection or a polling peer
[08:51] <blitzo> how do i have kde and gnome on the same box and choose between them?
[08:51] <dajxd> happy wedding, lisa.
[08:52] <brandon420> blitzo, you installed both of them, i have flux and gnome
[08:52] <FakeName> blitzo> Install both with synaptic (pick the metapackages)
[08:52] <FakeName> blitzo> pick session at logon
[08:52] <blitzo> brandon420, once installed do i get a choice when x starts up?
[08:52] <alexander_> cheers thune3
[08:52] <FakeName> blitzo> so.... yes. at the login screen
[08:53] <blitzo> FakeName, thx
[08:53] <brandon420> blitzo, i take it you are on ubuntu? if so you will be able to choose when you log on the computer
[08:53] <blitzo> brandon420, FakeName, if i restart x will it give me the choice then?
[08:53] <brandon420> no
[08:53] <brandon420> but you will either start gdm or kde
[08:54] <chris_osx> hi
[08:54] <alexander_> thune3 that didn't fully solve it for me. in usr/lib there's no python folder
[08:54] <blitzo> brandon420, does flux and xfce run under gnome or kde?  i'm still a little fuzzy the diff between a DE and a WM and which is which
[08:54] <thune3> alexander_: looking...
[08:54] <Bridge|A> hey thinking of installing ubuntu on my girlfriends laptop for when i use it, Even if it's not a notebook, do you guys think UNE(Ubuntu Notebook Edition) would be a better choice then a regular Ubuntu Install?
[08:55] <FakeName> I'd go with Xubuntu
[08:55] <Bridge|A> ThinkPad T40-series
[08:55] <brandon420> flux box is its own window manager in its self
[08:55] <chris_osx> what is xubuntu?
[08:55] <FakeName> Ubuntu with XFCE instead of Gnome
[08:55] <chris_osx> ah ok
[08:55] <blitzo> Bridge|A, don't see why not
[08:55] <FakeName> uses less system resources
[08:55] <Bridge|A> kk
[08:55] <Bridge|A> ty blitzo
[08:55] <Sam_Fisher> Howdy Ya'll
[08:56] <chris_osx> hi
[08:56] <blitzo> Bridge|A, i use ubuntu on my laptop
[08:56] <brandon420> Can anyone help me with Nvidia graphics/drivers (nvidia 8800GS 512mb) reguarding compiz, and 3d games?
[08:56] <Bridge|A> well thats kinda why i was thinking UNE
They're probably similar
[08:56] <Guest29018> How come this keeps asking me to identify?
[08:56] <chris_osx> but kde and gnome have nice apps and eyecandy
[08:56] <chris_osx> why not use it?
[08:56] <Guest29018> I'm the real Sam_Fisher
[08:56] <FakeName> slow
[08:56] <brandon420> blitzo: to be honest man, i have only used gnome and flux(for a short time)
[08:57] <blitzo> Bridge|A, i was just reading a wikipedia article you might want to check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28Linux_distribution%29#Versions
[08:57] <brandon420> guest type /ns identify *password*
[08:57] <ibrahim> what is the best copy of ubuntu is good for my laptop hp 1045ee core2due what i mean is 64bit or 32 bit ? and ubuntu gnome desktop edition or notebook edition ?
[08:57] <FakeName> You do need to register to identify, though
[08:57] <brandon420> Can anyone help me with Nvidia graphics/drivers (nvidia 8800GS 512mb) reguarding compiz, and 3d games?
[08:58] <chris_osx> with a core 2 duo you can use 64 bit
[08:58] <Guest29018> FakeName, You talking to me!
[08:58] <blitzo> FakeName, pls use a person's nick when replying
[08:58] <Janus5> 64-Bit seems just as stable and useful as ever.
[08:59] <[thor]> brandon420: i am using nvidia 195.36.24 with no issues in compiz/3D games
[08:59] <Guest29018> When scanning from Ubuntu a windows hard drive for virus what is your favorite tool?
[08:59] <brandon420> Guest29018: type /ns register password email   then its /ns identify password
[08:59] <[thor]> brandon420: what version of the hardware driver do you have installed?
[08:59] <ibrahim> and which one is better ? notebook edition or desktop one ?
[08:59] <chris_osx> have only tried desktop
[08:59] <brandon420> 185.18.36
[08:59] <chris_osx> so far
 It's likely that the only differences are the bundled packages
[09:00] <brandon420> thor: 185.18.36
[09:00] <Janus5> I'd only use a Notebook package on... a notebook. Imagine is has power-saving aps and the like that would just waste space on a desktop.
 Presumably, the notebook edition comes with a bunch of notebook utilities, for controling the back-light, battery monitors, etc...
[09:00] <thune3> alexander_: you can put it in the same directory as the script, make your own dir and add it to PYTHONPATH, or you could put it in one of the places python is looking. use two line python to see what the options are, i don't know what the right place is: >>>import sys >>> print sys.path
[09:00] <aSt3raL> is there a program that i can put on a computer running ubuntu with and arm cpu that will let me access irc when im on a public windows machine?
[09:01] <blitzo> brandon420, FakeName so if i install xubuntu, i just only need to use synaptic to add gnome and it would run just like a vanilla ubuntu installtion if i selected gnome at login?  i wonder about that because (for example) xubuntu's xfce setup is different from standard xfce (they've customized menus and such) also some things work under xfce that don't work on gnome
[09:01] <frimend> I have troubles mounting my newly created mirrored disks.
 VHC?
[09:01] <aSt3raL> like ssh into it
[09:01] <frimend> They don't show up in /dev/sdXX
[09:01] <ibrahim> FakeName: Ah i see it this information was bot listed on its features list thnx
[09:01] <aSt3raL> vhc?
[09:01] <[thor]> brandon420: it might be worth it to get the freshest drivers, but i am at a loss as to how you would do that outside of using the "Hardware Drivers" application
 Basically, yes. You would need to change your default window manager, but that's faily simple
 You could also use SSH, or nx
[09:02] <brandon420> thor: how did you get the newer ones?
 all require the linux box to be internet-facing, though
[09:02] <brandon420> Thor: i have the lastest ones that i can get.   =/
[09:02] <[thor]> brandon420: this was the version that was first installed when i added the vidcard
[09:02] <brandon420> blitzo: like i said, you can install both now
[09:03] <brandon420> thor: those dirty basterds
[09:03] <aSt3raL> so ssh into the linux box and then run a terminal based irc client?
[09:03] <brandon420> blitzo:http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[09:05] <FakeName> aSt3raL> It doesn't have to be SSH
[09:05] <FakeName> aSt3raL> VNC and NX are visual
[09:05] <FakeName> aSt3raL> Hell, I'm currently using NX from a windows box to a linux box for IRC, but they are on the same lan
[09:05] <brandon420> aSt3raL: apt-get install vnc4server
[09:05] <FakeName> aSt3raL> Try nx first.
[09:06] <FakeName> aSt3raL> Waaaaaaaaay better
[09:06] <bihari> i have a problem when i have save my file on desktop and the i deleted it i can see the file name stil there on my desktop like i used to make a c programing and i have save with hola.c and then when i deleted it  but when i check it through terminal i can see hola.c~  file there
[09:06] <FakeName> aSt3raL> Basically nx is tunneling x over ssh with persistent sessions
[09:07] <bihari> How to delet this file hola.c~ through my terminal is there any command
[09:07] <brandon420> fakename: you know how to get nvidia to work with comiz and games?
[09:07] <Anson> hi, everyone
[09:08] <brandon420> anson: hi
[09:08] <FakeName> brandon420 I don't think so
[09:08] <Janus5> Hi, Anson!
[09:08] <FakeName> brandon420 let me see if it works on my machine (I'm on a ion box, which *is* nvidia)
[09:08] <bihari> ?
[09:08] <sdx23> bihari: using ctrl-h in nautilus you can get hidden files to be shown, then you may delete it as usual.
[09:10] <meLon> Can you make a single VirtualHost entry in apache run on multiple ip's
[09:10] <brandon420> fakename: i have had these problems since i got ubuntu, and its starting to get on my nerves
[09:10] <alecs> hello!
[09:10] <brandon420> alecs: HI!
[09:11] <FakeName> brandon420> What, exactly is it doing?
[09:11] <Janus5> Howdy, Alecs!
[09:12] <brandon420> fakename: it wont let me turn on any of the visual settings, and my games glitch and freeze up. and this cairo dock has a freaking black box around it.......
[09:12] <brandon420> nexis is cool as hell, and i wanna play!
[09:12] <brandon420> lol
[09:12] <Bridge|A> heh i know theres not connection between the two beside where they found the name, but ithought this was a riot, lol: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/UbuntuCola.jpg
[09:13] <kraklin> hello, anyone here?
[09:13] <FakeName> no
[09:13]  * Bridge|A is not here
[09:13] <Bridge|A> hehe
[09:13] <chris_osx> FakeName: you lie!
[09:13] <qetuR> Ive recently bought a new laptop, an Acer with Intel Core i5 with ATi HD 5650 graphics card, but I'm having problems playing my 1080p videos. How come?
[09:14] <kraklin> ok, so empathy IRC works as i'm seeing you all writing :) thx a lot
[09:14] <FakeName> brandon420> I don't know what to tell you
[09:14] <FakeName> brandon420> I'm not too familiar with linux graphics
[09:14] <FakeName> brandon420> you've removed and reinstalled the graphics packages, right?
[09:15] <bareego> qetuR, that's not the one from Aldi is it ?
[09:15]  * cossier is away: Ara estic ocupat
[09:15] <brandon420> i just installed the restricted drivers so it would work
[09:15] <qetuR> bareego, Aldi?
[09:15] <Bridge|> qetuR u try XChat (iRC)?
 It's what I'm using
[09:15] <[thor]> Bridge|: maybe that is part of the OpenCola project?
[09:16] <Bridge|> hehe
[09:16] <qetuR> I have Xchat
[09:16] <Bridge|> oh
[09:16] <qetuR> what u talking about?
[09:16] <[thor]> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCola_(drink)
[09:16] <qetuR> :/
[09:16] <alecs> can anyone help me installing my usb tv tunner ? i have installed the driver via ndiswraper, but now i get this http://pastebin.com/9zSHb2ZF ... it seems that is the directX shit from windblows
[09:16] <Bridge|> naw i thought u were using Empathy as ur main irc client
[09:16] <qetuR> Bridge|, why did u think that?
[09:17] <Bridge|> dunno cuz u said u were able to see us writing using that
[09:17] <alecs> any ideeas how t fix this ? (i have installed the directx via wine ... )
[09:17] <jasonwryan> In /etc/exports which is the less secure _no_root_squash or all_squash?
[09:18] <[thor]> Bridge|: it was kraklin who was talking about using Empathy
[09:18] <qetuR> Bridge|, LOL
[09:18] <qetuR> Ive recently bought a new laptop, an Acer with Intel Core i5 with ATi HD 5650 graphics card, but I'm having problems playing my 1080p videos. How come?
[09:18] <kraklin> Bridge| yes, it was me :)
[09:19] <kraklin> Bridge| I'm trying to get some answers about Cakephp in #cakephp but nobody replies, so i trying, if empathy is working here :)
[09:19] <Bridge|> lol maybe i need glasses
[09:20] <chris_osx> what is cakephp?
[09:20] <Janus5> Is the cakephp a lie?
[09:20] <kraklin> cakephp is a php framework, like zend or codeignition
[09:20] <Janus5> ...Ugh, sorry. Couldn't help it.
[09:20] <FakeName> LIES
[09:20] <BentFranklin> Say I am considering installing package <foo>.  How can I look up info about <foo> before I install it?  Ie, get a sense of how awesome it is, last time maintained etc.
[09:20] <kraklin> sure, it
[09:20] <kraklin> cakephp is a big lie :D
[09:21] <Janus5> I KNEW it!
[09:21] <FakeName> as long as it has frosting
[09:21] <chris_osx> Janus5: wow?
[09:21] <Janus5> chris_osx: Sorry, sorry. That meme's played out.
[09:21] <bareego> it's an old meme from a good game
[09:22] <chris_osx> world of warcraft i guess
[09:22] <bareego> installed the game when it was free to download ;O)
[09:22] <sdx23> BentFranklin: using http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for example
[09:22] <bareego> no, it's portals
[09:22] <chris_osx> don't know that one
[09:22] <Janus5> LOL
[09:22] <Janus5> "Portal". Just google "Cake is a Lie" and "Still Alive",
[09:23] <bareego> you actually do get a cake at the end when you destroy the evil robot
[09:23] <chris_osx> in wow there is an "archievement" called "the cake is not a lie"
 No, you don't get the cake
[09:23] <FakeName> they just taunt you with it
[09:23] <Janus5> Really. I never played much of it, sadly. I got sick... 1st-person games make me all wonky.
[09:23] <FakeName> bummer
[09:23] <bareego> thatone would make you extra wonky, too
[09:23] <Janus5> LOL - WOW referencing Portal. I love it when other game compaines give kudos to other's work.
[09:24] <FakeName> now you're thinking with portals!
[09:24] <jave> ive installed ubuntu from a livecd on a laptop. booting the live cd went well, but now booting the insta, the install crashes
[09:25] <Janus5> Like the old GBA version of Final Fantasy 1 having a reference to Trogdor of HomeStarRunner fame: "Everyone will be burninated!"
[09:25] <Asad2005> I want to see my child firefox history. As root from my own accound how can i accomplish this?
[09:25] <frimend> I have troubles finding my newly created raid.
[09:25] <frimend> I dont' see it as one disk.
[09:25] <frimend> I see sdb and sdc, but they are both marked as unallocated space in gparted.
[09:25] <frimend> and I can't mount them.
[09:26] <jasonwryan> frimend: what does cat /proc/mdstat show?
 I think the actual RAID whows up somewhere else
[09:27] <jave> does ubuntu use grub2?
[09:28] <Juniksz> hello, in command line how can I change the file's group?
[09:28] <FakeName> chmod
[09:28] <FakeName> oh, wait
[09:28] <bareego> chown
[09:28] <FakeName> chown, I think
[09:28] <jasonwryan> jave grub-install -v (later versions, yes)
[09:28] <Juniksz> chown is the owner
[09:28] <bareego> chown user:group filename
[09:29] <BentFranklin> whats (the best) / (a good) / (you like) ubuntu mp3 tag editor?
[09:29] <ker> hi! is there a way to speed up DNS resolution in Firefox? I've already disabled ipv6 from about:config
[09:29] <bareego> you might have to use sudo
[09:29] <Juniksz> ok itry
[09:29] <Juniksz> thanks
[09:29] <bareego> ker use the DNS of your ISP in /etc/resolv.conf
[09:29] <jasonwryan> BentFranklin: I use easyTAG
  Musicbrainz picard
[09:29] <MengXingHun> Who know [insurance.aes256] files?
[09:29] <frimend> jasonwryan: cat /proc/mdstat show "unused devics <none>
[09:30] <ker> they are already in /etc/resolv.conf
[09:30] <matthiaskrgr_> hello
[09:30] <jasonwryan> frimend: no raid devices listed? you have no raid...
[09:30] <bareego> you could also run a caching dns server on your machine
[09:30] <chris_osx> sure you can use a dnscache proxy
[09:30] <jasonwryan> frimend: did you install from the alternate disk?
[09:30] <bareego> bind
[09:30] <BentFranklin> Thansk all
[09:30] <matthiaskrgr_> I have a problem playing DVDs is this the right channel?
[09:31] <bareego> matthiaskrgr_, sure
[09:31] <matthiaskrgr_> I use xubuntu 10.4
[09:31] <frimend> jasonwryan: I installed ubuntu 10.04 on samsung disk.
[09:31] <matthiaskrgr_> ok
[09:31] <bareego> matthiaskrgr_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[09:31] <frimend> I then entered the raid utility and made a raid from two other, wdc disks.
[09:31] <jasonwryan> frimend: to create a raid array, you need the alternate disk
[09:31] <frimend> Ctrl+I, to enter the raid utility.
[09:32] <matthiaskrgr_> bareego: I already took a look at this page, that's the problem ;)
[09:32] <frimend> To be able to use my created raid in ubuntu, I need to make a new installation of ubuntu, using the "alternate disk" ?
[09:32]  * cossier is back (gone 00:17:16)
[09:32] <FakeName> frimend> I don't know if this is specific to using LVM, but my RAID shows up under /dev/VolGroupXX (xx bing the number of raids)
[09:33] <jasonwryan> frimend: you don't have a 'newly created raid' - it would show in mdstat if you did...
[09:33] <matthiaskrgr_> bareego: I already installed libdvdread4 and did install-css.sh and rebooted, but it still seems to not work
[09:33] <frimend> I have a created raid, I can see it in the raid utility.
[09:34] <bareego> what program you try to use to watch dvd ?
[09:35] <quietone> Our ubuntu machines can no longer access the XP  shared folder and printer since I reinstalled XP  (and enabled sharing). Been searching and getting confused
[09:35] <matthiaskrgr_> bareego: totem
[09:35] <cossier> bareego, I use vlc
[09:36] <matthiaskrgr_> bareego: totem says "An error occured. Could not read from resource.
[09:36] <jasonwryan> frimend: are you dual booting?
[09:36] <frimend> No
[09:36] <bareego> just try another player to make sure
[09:36] <bareego> I use gmplayer or vlc
[09:36] <CountDuckula> quietone: assuming xp shares have been redone, have you enabled file and printer sharing option?
[09:36] <frimend> the raid utility is built in, motherboard.
[09:36] <matthiaskrgr_> vlc: "Playback failure:
[09:36] <matthiaskrgr_> VLC cannot set the DVD's title. It possibly cannot decrypt the entire disc.
[09:36] <matthiaskrgr_> Your input can't be opened:
[09:36] <matthiaskrgr_> VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd:///dev/sr0'. Check the log for details."
[09:36] <FloodBot1> matthiaskrgr_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:36] <frimend> I see the two disks there, "Member Disk(0)" on both of the disks.
[09:37] <frimend> they are part of the raid that I created.
[09:37] <frimend> I simply can't access the raid from unbutu.
[09:37] <frimend> I can see the disks as regular disks.
[09:37] <matthiaskrgr_> enna fails, too
[09:37] <frimend> ubuntu does not acknowledge them as a raid though.
[09:37] <jasonwryan> frimend: Ah! different thing entirely. IIRC, that is not so reliable for linux... You may want to google for details, but I think you will need the alternate disk
[09:38] <jasonwryan> frimend: hardware raid is primarily built for windoze
[09:39] <TuxSax> frimend: have you set up the raid volume disk correctly?
[09:39] <quietone> CountDuckula, yes I have and I just checked, again
[09:39] <matthiaskrgr_> bareego: any ideas what I could do?
[09:39] <frimend> TuxSax: Most probably not.
[09:39] <TuxSax> if it's totally hardware built, the linux shouldn't even be aware it's raid
[09:39] <CountDuckula> quietone: does the xp machine have a firewall and is it enabled?
[09:40] <kickingintender> i want a job as a linux admin
[09:40] <kickingintender> please help
[09:40] <frimend> the two disks are connected to the motherboard with sata cables.
[09:40] <TuxSax> I have a few IBM servers where the raid controller is set up to a single disk volume
[09:40] <frimend> Just like regular disks.
[09:40] <frimend> a MSI x58pro motherboard.
[09:40] <quietone> CountDuckula, let me check again
[09:40] <TuxSax> when linux boots up it only sees one disk
[09:40] <frimend> I then access this raid utility, and make the disks there.
[09:40] <kickingintender> CountDuckula xp does have firewall enabled by default
[09:41] <frimend> "Intel(R) Matrix storage manager option ROM v8.50.1030 ICH10r/O vRAID5"
[09:41] <chris_osx> bah compiling gentoo takes forever
[09:41] <CountDuckula> quiteone: if firewall enabled, stop it and try connect to share
[09:41] <bareego> matthiaskrgr_, you got vlc ?
[09:41] <frimend> thats the header inside the raid utility tool.
[09:41] <jave> how do I change kernel options when I cant boot the system?
[09:41] <TuxSax> frimend: you need to first select which hardisks you want to use and initialize them as raid, then you can create a logical volume
[09:41] <matthiaskrgr_> bareego: fails, too
[09:41] <Bridge|> Tux your other disks mounted?
[09:41] <CountDuckula> kickingintender: yes by default it does
[09:41] <frimend> TuxSax: Do I do this inside ubuntu?
[09:42] <bareego> can you rip a track with mencoder ?
[09:42] <vsds> if I run ubuntu from a live cd, can I burn a cd in the same cd drive? Or remains that drive busy with the OS?
[09:42] <TuxSax> frimend: no, first on the raid utility
[09:42] <jave> sorry, I'm new to ubuntu, my other machines run fedora
[09:42] <bareego> <- is watching THE DUDE
[09:43] <tik> hi
[09:43] <matthiaskrgr_> bareego: I'll try. http://pastebin.com/7L58bsk5 is what vlc says
[09:43] <xFixer> How to loadmodule in Ubuntu?
[09:43] <kickingintender> where can i find jobs
[09:43] <TuxSax> frimend: the problem is that sometimes those controllers aren't really 100% hardware, but kinda emulated hardware raid done by software, in this case, they're cheap chips that only work fine in windoz
[09:43] <Bridge|> hi tik
[09:43] <tik> :D
[09:43] <vsds> can I eject the Live CD from the cd drive while running Ubuntu Live?
[09:43] <bareego> how come you have ///
[09:43] <ylmfos> hi
[09:43] <bareego> not //
[09:43] <tik> vsds: no the OS runs off tat cd
[09:43] <xFixer> How to loadmodule in Ubuntu?
[09:43] <frimend> that could very well be the case..
[09:44] <tehowe> Hello - does anyone know the finer points on searching w/ metatracker?
[09:44] <vsds> tik, thanks, I willstop trying that then. :-)
[09:44] <frimend> No, I don't have access to any more tools, inside the utility tool.
[09:44] <TuxSax> frimend: what version of ubuntu are you trying to boot?
[09:44] <xFixer> How to loadmodule in Ubuntu?
[09:44] <frimend> 10.04
[09:44] <xFixer> How to loadmodule in Ubuntu? someone help!
[09:44] <jasonwryan> xFixer: sudo modprobe {module}
[09:44] <Tradeking09> i need same help
[09:44] <bareego> it should be /dev/sr0 or dvd://1
[09:44] <TuxSax> frimend: desktop? server?
[09:44] <bareego> or such
[09:45] <matthiaskrgr_> bareego: befor pressing "play" on vlc, the "Open Media" window says "Disc device  /dev/sr0"
[09:45] <frimend> a desktop computer.
[09:45] <matthiaskrgr_> bareego: shall I trie dvd://1 ?
[09:45] <bareego> jsut try mplayer dvd://1 in cli
[09:46] <TuxSax> frimend: you could try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[09:47] <frimend> I do not have plans to have ubuntu on the raid.
[09:47] <matthiaskrgr_> bareego: http://pastebin.com/1BZPBp2D
[09:47] <frimend> I just want the raid for storage.
[09:47] <xibalba> anyone here familiar with netflow?
[09:47] <xibalba> i'm looking for a utility that analyzes netflow v9 and gives some VoIP info
[09:48] <baskak> hi, can somebody guide me through configuring network sharing to use with both win xp and ubuntu computers. instructions available seem either incomplete or irrelevant
[09:48] <bareego> coulde be first track isn't a video, try some later ones
[09:49] <GothAlice-iPad> What's the secret to running a sane ubuntu server? So far I'm SOL on taking over from the last sysadmin who was inept.
[09:51] <matthiaskrgr_> bareego: http://pastebin.com/SWfymnsC
[09:52] <bareego> looks like it can't crack the key of the DVD
[09:52] <matthiaskrgr_> hmm
[09:52] <matthiaskrgr_> on another pc geexbox worked fine
[09:53] <bareego> tried a different dvd ?
[09:53] <TuxSax> frimend: if it's only for storage I'd recommend you to use LVM
[09:53] <matthiaskrgr_> I'll try another on, brb
[09:56] <matthiaskrgr_> bareego: other, newer dvd: http://pastebin.com/bn0jQuaU
[09:56] <frimend> This is getting out of hand..
[09:56] <frimend> I was hoping to gain some speedup by raiding my two disks.
[09:57] <frimend> But the time I spend trying to set it up, I won't regain the time I have lost during my lifetime!
[09:57] <matthiaskrgr_> bareego: enna finds that one, but no demux is available *tries to install*
[09:58] <jasonwryan> frimend: RAID gives you _redundancy_, not speed...
[09:58] <TuxSax> frimend: you may find that LVM is suitable for you not less than a FAKE RAID
[09:58] <CountDuckula> unless its RAID0
[09:58] <TuxSax> LVM is also easily configurable and scalable
[09:58] <frimend> both raid0 and radi1 gives speed.
[09:59] <TuxSax> frimend: raid1 is not faster than a normal hardisk
[09:59] <CountDuckula> RAID0 best speed but forget data if one disc says goodbye
[09:59] <Nullslash> ls
[09:59] <TuxSax> it writes twice the data
[09:59] <Nullslash> ls -alth
[09:59] <bareego> matthiaskrgr_, honestly don't know, sorry
[09:59] <frimend> raid1 reads from two disks.
[09:59] <frimend> That can prove a good speedup.
[09:59] <breakingborders> Hihello
[10:00] <TuxSax> if you want both speed and redundancy you then need raid10, but for this you'll need proper hardware
[10:00] <j800r> can someone help? i can't get java apps/games to run in firefox or chromium. i've installed the java pluging via synaptic and when i run a java test it tells me i'm not using the recommend version, and java apps just display a blank box
[10:00] <jasonwryan> frimend: really? where did you read that?
[10:00] <frimend> it's common sense!
[10:00] <j800r> *plugin
[10:00] <ndevastator> whats 10.04 called ?
[10:00] <jasonwryan> frimend: LOL!
[10:00] <frimend> If it can read data from two disks, it can read half from one disk, and the other half from the other.
[10:00] <matthiaskrgr_> bareego: hmm, thanks
[10:00] <tensorpudding> great, now instead of unreliable hibernate, hibernate doesn't work at all
[10:00] <frimend> thereby halving the time for accessing files.
[10:01]  * jasonwryan is in stitches...
[10:01] <Bridge|> NDev: Lucid Lynx
[10:01] <breakingborders> wehehe
[10:01] <CountDuckula> ndevasator: Lucid Lynx
[10:01] <frimend> jasonwryan: I can't find any good source right now.
[10:01] <frimend> But there are!
[10:01] <jquery> hi
[10:02] <frimend> writing to a raid1 is the same as writing to a regular disk though.
[10:02] <CountDuckula> 10.10 is called Masterbating Monkey - we love you Linus :)
[10:02] <breakingborders> hey jqery
[10:02] <jasonwryan> frimend: listen to TuxSax and CountDuckula
[10:02] <frimend> if not slower.
[10:02] <jquery> anybody could help with jquery logout?
[10:02]  * jasonwryan gives CountDuckula a beer
[10:03] <frimend> Noone can deny that raid1 has huge potential to have faster reading than from a single disk.
[10:03] <CountDuckula> :)
[10:03] <Bridge|> ps- x then kill pid#
[10:03] <Bridge|> hehe
[10:03] <Bridge|> kill -9 <pid#>
[10:03] <quietone> CountDuckula, thx for pointing that (the obvious) out. I hadn't checked the firewall setting carefully.  but all good now.
[10:04] <CountDuckula> if you want speed get a SSD
[10:04] <rlankfo> hell, get 2
[10:05] <CountDuckula> I have a Intel 40GB SSD and 2x500GB in RAID1 for data
[10:05] <josef__> does anyone has also problems with syncing ubuntu one contacts?
[10:05] <Bridge|> u would say life span of a ssd would outlasta hdd right?
[10:06] <CountDuckula> Bridgel: marketing people would have u believe that but time will tell
[10:07] <Bridge|> kk
[10:07] <CountDuckula> quietone: great mate - easy to overlook, glad to help
[10:07] <cllrofwar> Good Morning
[10:08] <suprengr> joschi: u1 contacts sync is (and has been for a while) 'service outage'
[10:08] <joschi> josef__: ^
[10:08] <garewal> hello , how can i install ram through xubuntu
[10:08] <cllrofwar> Anyone here familiar with botti]]]
[10:08] <cllrofwar> booting issues
[10:08] <suprengr> josef__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status
[10:09] <TuxSax> ndevastator: 10.04 is called Lucid Lynx
[10:09] <ndevastator> TuxSax, ty yes i found it
[10:09] <rlankfo> garewal: turn the machien off, insert the ram, boot up
[10:09] <ndevastator> anyone know why an ntfs partition that I have mounted wouldnt show in pysdm
[10:10] <garewal> thats it rlankfo_   thanx man
[10:10] <TuxSax> Bridge|: one single command can do both
[10:10] <josef__> thank you!
[10:10] <TuxSax> pkill
[10:10] <cllrofwar> ubuntu black screens on me after boot up even on recovery
[10:10] <cllrofwar> :(
[10:10] <br41n> use the cd
[10:10] <br41n> can  help you to recovery good
[10:10] <br41n> :)
[10:11] <CountDuckula> cllrofwar: what hardware you running?
[10:11] <suprengr> joschi: glad to have helped
[10:11] <rlankfo> gaurang: the kernel will detect it
[10:11] <cllrofwar> erm
[10:11] <suprengr> josef__: glad to have helped
[10:11] <rlankfo> garewal sorry he left
[10:11] <joschi> suprengr: *please* check you tab completion before pressing enter ;)
[10:11] <gaurang> rlankfo, which kernal
[10:11] <gaurang> *kernal
[10:12] <rlankfo> gaurang: tab completion error :)
[10:12] <cllrofwar> AMD x2 dual core ql-66
[10:12] <gaurang> rlankfo, lemme see
[10:12] <suprengr> joschi: ;D
[10:12] <cllrofwar> 2g ram
[10:12] <cllrofwar> it's a SATA2
[10:13] <cllrofwar> the odd thing that I had Kubuntu running, performed an update as my wireless card was not being detected under iwconfig
[10:13] <ndevastator> can anyone tell me why a ntfs partition wouldnt show up in pysdm
[10:13] <cllrofwar> and after I reboot it black screened. Even re-installing a fresh ubuntu installation - it still black screens
[10:14] <TuxSax> cllrofwar: is your monitor switched on?
[10:14] <jasonwryan> cllrofwar: have you tried nomodeset?
[10:15] <TuxSax> cllrofwar: just kiddin' ;-)
[10:15] <cllrofwar> :P
[10:15] <CountDuckula> cllrofwar: have you tried booting the live cd and try to see if there is anything in the logs on the hard drive
[10:15] <cllrofwar> I was booting off USB drive
[10:15] <tik> yoyo
[10:15] <cllrofwar> ubuntu
[10:15] <TuxSax> cllrofwar: in my opinion black screens are better than blue ones windoz gives...
[10:15] <cllrofwar> .iso
[10:15] <TuxSax> cllrofwar: .iso from USB?
[10:16] <cllrofwar> aye Tux, but it's still rather limited as an OS if I can;t do ANYTHING :P
[10:16] <cllrofwar> yes
[10:16] <TuxSax> cllrofwar: have you actually created a boot USB disk or just dropped the .iso in it?
[10:16] <CountDuckula> cllrofwar: is the usb drive in the machine when you boot after install?
[10:16] <glaucous> Would it be safe to use GPARTED to move my /, /home and swap partitions to another drive?
[10:16] <cllrofwar> Erm... which is the n00b answer...
[10:16] <cllrofwar> I just dropped it in there
[10:17] <cllrofwar> Yes Count
[10:17] <cllrofwar> The ISO file is simplu copied onto the USB stick
[10:17] <cllrofwar> 'smply
[10:17] <TuxSax> cll, please create a bootable install usb disk using unetbootin
[10:17] <CountDuckula> cllrofwar: you have installed to sata drive?
[10:18] <TuxSax> and then try to boot from it...
[10:18] <cllrofwar> is that available in Win tux?
[10:18] <TuxSax> cllrofwar: yes, it is
[10:18] <jasonwryan> glaucous: no, not safe
[10:18] <cllrofwar> yes count
[10:18] <TheTosh> Ok... So I need some help
[10:18] <cllrofwar> sata 2
[10:18] <TheTosh> I am trying to do this
[10:18] <TheTosh> perl -MCPAN -e 'install IO::Socket::SSL'
[10:18] <CountDuckula> cllrofwar: if its installed to sata then remove the usb drive
[10:18] <TheTosh> but get this error Couldn't untar Net-SSLeay-1.36.tar
[10:19] <TuxSax> you plug the USB, run the little program, select the .ISO you want, choose the USB drive (generally auto detected) and then you make it
[10:19] <TuxSax> once finished you can plug the USB and boot from it
[10:19] <cllrofwar> ok, thanks Tux and Count
[10:19] <cllrofwar> i'll give it a go :)
[10:19] <TheTosh> How do I install it?
[10:19] <somethinginteres> Hi all, is there any easy way to find the max capacity and usage of the drive ubuntu is installed onto? I've tried disk analyser but it doesn't seem to give me what I am after
[10:19] <glaucous> jasonwryan, do you know of a way I can keep all my programs and settings after format? This includes /usr and so on, not only /home
[10:19] <euphorial> I currently have a thing that runs in rc.local, and I do *not* want it to load for me.. just certain users. Can someone help me? I think it's .bashrc but I have NO idea how to operate that file. The script can NOT run for my account or root obviously.
[10:20] <euphorial> Anyone, please?
[10:20] <TheTosh> Couldn't untar Net-SSLeay-1.36.tar
[10:20] <TheTosh> what is wrong?
[10:20] <jasonwryan> glaucous: _after_ you have backed everything up, I'd use dd (if the drive was the same size or bigger)
[10:20] <TuxSax> TheTosh: you can install perl modules via apt-get
[10:21] <TheTosh> TuxSax: What would I be looking for?
[10:21] <CountDuckula> somethinginteres: try df -h from a terminal
[10:22] <glaucous> jasonwryan, well the drive is four times bigger. But how do I backup everything? For instance, can I keep installed programs and libraries which I guess exist in /usr somewhere?
[10:22] <jasonwryan> glaucous: or you could go with clonezilla
[10:22] <Oprtz> hi can i use webcam in Empathy for yahoo chat, i am on ubuntu 10.04? thanks
[10:22] <jasonwryan> glaucous: just backup your data - if the clone works, you won't need it anyway...
[10:23] <thune3> TheTosh: package is libio-socket-ssl-perl http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/libio-socket-ssl-perl
[10:24] <Friktion> Hello
[10:24] <baskak> hi, can somebody guide me through configuring network sharing to use with both win xp and ubuntu computers. instructions available seem either incomplete or irrelevant
[10:24] <glaucous> jasonwryan, I might be better of doing a real format I think. I just have to write down most of my settings and configs.
[10:24] <TheTosh> thune3: E: Couldn't find package libio-socket-ssl-perl
[10:24] <Friktion> Can someone help me compile sdl on codeblocks ?
[10:25] <somethinginteres> CountDuckula: thanks :)
[10:25] <glaucous> jasonwryan, do you by any chance know if the WIndows partition needs to be a primary partition?
[10:25] <TuxSax> TheTosh: Try apt-get install libio-socket-ssl-perl
[10:25] <thune3> TheTosh: it's in universe repository, you may have to enable it System->Admin->Software Sources
[10:25] <jasonwryan> glaucous: as in a reinstall? It's not a bad idea (you can clean house at the same time)
[10:25] <CountDuckula> glaucous: back up homedir and apt cache - most program settings get stored in hidden folder under homedir
[10:25] <TheTosh> OH
[10:25] <TheTosh> Im using 9.04
[10:26] <TheTosh> Server
[10:26] <TheTosh> thune3: I'm using 9.04 server
[10:26] <jasonwryan> glaucous: sorry, no windoze skillz
[10:27] <thune3> TheTosh: you can uncomment universe lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and run apt-get update
[10:27] <CountDuckula> glacous: if u intend to boot windows then it needs a primary partition
[10:27] <glaucous> CountDuckula, okay, thanks.
[10:28] <CountDuckula> you can have up to 4 primary partitions on a drive
[10:28] <TheTosh> thune3: Forgive me... I am a noob.
[10:28] <thune3> TheTosh: you have gui? synaptic? or just cli?
[10:28] <Friktion> is it just me or when you do fullscreen on youtube and then exit parts of the screen is black ?
[10:29] <TheTosh> thune3: I'm using Terminal
[10:29] <glaucous> CountDuckula, yup and one logical. Just to make sure, it is only /boot that requires primary?
[10:30] <ndevastator> eh okay i added my user to the web group and set my web folders owners to root:web and i still cannot modify files
[10:31] <smackmanic> no bios boot option for usb for my liveusb. dell dimension 8200, desktop...any workarounds? I'm googling as I type this
[10:31] <TuxSax> TheTosh: do you know how to edit a file with terminal?
[10:32] <TheTosh> TuxSax: I have the apt file open
[10:34] <glaucous> About partitioning the drive. I usually just use /, /home and swap. Do you gain anything by adding /boot as well? And perhaps /usr?
[10:35] <TuxSax> TheTosh: great, find a line that says something like deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu karmic universe
[10:35] <jasonwryan> glaucous: for debian/ubuntu, I do the same (/, /home & swap): it works fine...
[10:35] <TuxSax> TheTosh: there are two lines, one starts with deb and one below it with deb-src
[10:36] <TheTosh> TuxSax: I did apt update
[10:36] <TheTosh> and apt-get install libio-socket-ssl-perl and it worked
[10:36] <TuxSax> TheTosh: I'm glad to hear
[10:36] <TheTosh> =D
[10:36] <TuxSax> generally it's easier to find perl modules via apt
[10:36] <TuxSax> than using the cpan
[10:37] <misc--> hi all, I was wondering if anyone knows of some kind of "on/off" icon for the desktop... soooo... you double click it, the icon changes until the script finishes, and then changes back again... anything like that available?
[10:37] <glaucous> jasonwryan, is swap a primary partition, or a partition at all?
[10:37] <TuxSax> you can search for them with aptitude search perl | grep module
[10:37] <tik> ow do I lock a package so it won't be updated?
[10:37] <TuxSax> for example for this case I used aptitude search perl | grep socks
[10:37] <glaucous> jasonwryan, never mind, noticed that my swap is on a logical partition
[10:37] <jasonwryan> glaucous: :)
[10:38] <TuxSax> then you get a list of a few, and you can chose the one that best fits the name you are looking for
[10:38] <TuxSax> I'm out to lunch
[10:39] <xStink> Hey i have some strange premission issues after upgrading
[10:39] <xStink> permission
[10:39] <smackmanic> no bios boot option for usb for my liveusb. dell dimension 8200, desktop...any workarounds? aside from using a cd or flashing my bios...
[10:40] <Taev> hey guys is there a way to add a kill -9 command to " ps aux | grep something"
[10:40] <Taev> so that if finds the PID and kills it
[10:40] <Taev> in one command
[10:40] <xStink> Installed 10.4  and everything works on first boot.... after upgrading all packages and rebooting i have no permission to sound or anything else that is not specifically "owned" my my user
[10:41] <karlo> hi... do I need firewall ?
[10:42] <smackmanic> bleh
[10:42] <xStink> Taev:  killall -9 processname ?
[10:43] <Taev> Im saying is there a way to combine ps aux | grep something , with a command to kill that process
[10:43] <JamesMR> Is it possible to get MS Office running in Ubuntu?
[10:43] <Taev> like ps aux | grep something | kill -9 $PID  , I know that doesn't work, but something like that
[10:44] <Taev> why would you want to JamesMR?
[10:44] <chris_osx> JamesMR: sure
[10:44] <Taev> Open Office and or KOffice are just as good.
[10:44] <JamesMR> Taev: I beg to disagree
[10:44] <chris_osx> Taev: koffice isn't stable enough for production use
[10:44] <JamesMR> OpsnOffice is clinky
[10:44] <JamesMR> clunky*
[10:44] <JamesMR> and slow
[10:44] <xStink> JamesMR:  CrossoverOffice from codeweavers is best solution for outof the box almost flawless
[10:45] <xStink> however use Openoffice like the rest of usd
[10:45] <xStink> its better faster and more stable
[10:45] <xStink> and its actually compatible with it self
[10:45] <xStink> :-p
[10:45] <karlo> do I need firewall ?
[10:45] <JamesMR> I recently fell in love with MSOffice 2007
[10:45] <Taev> kill -9 `ps aux | grep eggdrop | cut -d " " -f 1`
[10:45] <smackmanic> I will agree with Taev, never had any probs with open office and it is stable
[10:45] <xStink> karlo: Thats a broad question
[10:45] <xStink> Do you?
[10:45] <JamesMR> it has such a nice interface
[10:45] <thune3> Taev: what was the answer on the browser redirect problem, i'm curious
[10:46] <smackmanic> as far as it being clunky or anything, I run an ancient machine and with very little ram or cpu and it runs fine
[10:46] <xStink> JamesMR: well oo is better once you take 5minutes to get used to it
[10:46] <xStink> MS Office is shit
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[10:46] <Niglop> 99FF99
[10:46] <Niglop> when editing the color codes in my conky config what format does it use? html?
[10:46] <chris_osx> you should not fall in love with evil corporation's products if avoidable
[10:46] <JamesMR> xStink: OO is outdated.
[10:47] <[thor]> !details | karlo
[10:47] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> hey folks - I have recompiled the firefox source package and removed compiler optimizations to make it easier to debug segfaults....
[10:47] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> can I upload this to my PPA?
[10:47] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> or is this forbidden?
[10:47] <xStink> JamesMS your outdated
[10:47] <Taev> apparently my .cache was infected with a java malware
[10:48] <Taev> as soon as I wiped it and did some other things the problem stopped
[10:48] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> does anyone know?
[10:48] <chris_osx> JamesMR: no it is not. it just comes with fewer eyecandy than ms (which stey stole from max os x)
[10:48] <JamesMR> xStink: what about my outdated?
[10:48] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> sorry if this is not the correct channel
[10:48] <[thor]> Taev: well then.. another one to add to the books.
[10:48] <JamesMR> chris_osx: I like ribbon menus :(
[10:48] <Taev> I also ran chkrootkit, and a thorough clamav scan, plus changed my passwords, double checked my package status on my thinlinux router, and set it to ultra paranoid mode
[10:48] <thune3> Taev: thx for update
[10:48] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> JamesMR, you are insane! :-)
[10:49] <karlo> I do not know if I must have firewall... is my computer in dangerous without firewall ?
[10:49] <chris_osx> JamesMR: then go install it. try wine or get crossover office
[10:49] <JamesMR> but ribbon menu's are cool!
[10:49] <JamesMR> trying crossover office
[10:49] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> I find them insanely confusing...
[10:49] <[thor]> karlo: it is a good idea to use a software firewall if you do not run a hardware firewall or commercial router.
[10:49] <JamesMR> they make things quicker to access and find
[10:50] <xStink> I'm done paying for software that dont work
[10:50] <xStink> :-p
[10:50] <JamesMR> well, for my mind anyway
[10:50] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> so anyway... does anyone know the answer to my PPA question?
[10:50] <[thor]> karlo: there are no major drawbacks to having the firewall insalled for the casual user.
[10:50] <JamesMR> MSOffice works just fine ;)
[10:50] <[thor]> */installed
[10:50] <Taev> get yourself an old box like a Pentium 133mhz and install thinlinux router setup
[10:50] <chris_osx> xStink: i am done with depending on a company and its decisions
[10:50] <JamesMR> I like my software to have a good interface, not just featureset
[10:50] <JamesMR> OO feels bloated to me
[10:50] <Taev> it allows you to add all kinds of cool security measures like honeypots and decoy networks
[10:50] <xStink> Mohahaha
[10:50] <karlo> [thor]: than I do not need firewall ?
[10:51] <Taev> MS Office feels bloated to me
[10:51] <xStink> So MS products arent bloated?
[10:51] <xStink> lol
[10:51] <Taev> like a female period sans Midol bloated
[10:51] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> karlo - no, you need a firewall
[10:51] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> a honeypot won't do what you are looking for
[10:51] <JamesMR> xStink: MS Office 2007 isn't
[10:52] <trmmm> hello,
[10:52] <trmmm> how can i run a command from a script as root
[10:52] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> sudo
[10:52] <Taev> I seriously doubt anyone would specifically target my server/network but I like having insane security measures bordering on anal retentive even.
[10:52] <Taev> or su
[10:52] <karlo> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: I gonna get it with "sudo apt-get install firewall" ?
[10:53] <Taev> you can use "su" also trmmm
[10:53] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> not sure... I thought that the firewall was preinstalled
[10:53] <[thor]> karlo: "sudo ufw enable && sudo ufw status"
[10:53] <karlo> ok than
[10:53] <frith> how do you get up the grub2 boot menu? is it shift?