[12:11] <Yorokobi> bill__k, if you set the schema to a transparent one, click the Save button, then click Settings -> Save as default, then yes
[12:12] <bill__k> Yorokobi: looks like it's working.  thanks for the help!
[12:12] <Yorokobi> np bill__k
[12:13] <Lewix> how do i update it to a newer version
[12:13] <Lewix> amsn
[12:13] <tulio__> how do I add the multiverso to adept package manager?
[12:13] <tulio__> *multiverse
[12:13] <leiar_>  I need help to add audio to a video with ffmepg, if possible
[12:14] <Chemicalvamp> hmmm just finished installing eclipse, now when i start it, i get the busy mouse icon and nothing
[12:14] <dwidmann> tulio__: in adept, go to manage repositories, find the line that looks like "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy main" or similar, and put multiverse on the end of the line after main, simple as that
[12:14] <dwidmann> if you have the update, security, and/or backports repositories enabled, you'll need to add it to those too
[12:14] <Yorokobi> tulio__, may as well add universe while you're at it
[12:15] <Lewix> dwidmann, how do i update it
[12:15] <tulio__> there is only br.archive.ubuntu
[12:15] <tulio__> is there any difference?!
[12:15] <dwidmann> Hmm, that would be trickier lewix
[12:15] <dwidmann> tulio__: that's just what mirror you're using, no problem therer
[12:16] <Yorokobi> tulio__, it should look like deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu main restricted universe multiverse
[12:16] <ragnork> anyone knows how to install the Kernel Headers?
[12:16] <Lewix> dwidmann, alrigth how do I install the newer version and get rid of what i just installed
[12:16] <bobleny> thanks dwidmann, I found it, I will see how this works...
[12:16] <dwidmann> Lewix: well, first, just sudo apt-get remove amsn to remove what you just installed.
[12:16] <Chemicalvamp> anybody know why eclipse isnt running?
[12:16] <bill__k> Yorokobi: is it normal that konsole transparenc only shows the background under it, and not other windows
[12:16] <dwidmann> To get the newer you'll either have to pull the one from the feisty repos along with all dependencies, or compile from source. Pick your poison, neither way is particularly fun.
[12:16] <Yorokobi> Chemicalvamp, do you get any output when you try running it from a shell (konsole) ?
[12:17] <Yorokobi> bill__k, yes.
[12:17] <bill__k> ok
[12:17] <dwidmann> Chemicalvamp: run it in konsole and tell us what errors you're getting
[12:17] <Chemicalvamp> i see
[12:17] <Yorokobi> bill__k, you need the konsole-alpha package from the beryl/trevino repo and beryl working to get full transparency
[12:17] <ragnork> Anyone knows where to get/how to install Linux Kernel headers for kubuntu?
[12:17] <bobleny> Yeah, this is better it isn't eating my ram so fast!
[12:17] <bobleny> thanks, bye
[12:18] <Lewix> dwidmann, thanks its done. now?
[12:18] <bill__k> Yorokobi: maybe later.  I'm guessing that will create a whole new set of problems as I have 2 screens and am using ati's bigdesktop
[12:18] <tulio__> no difference
[12:18] <dwidmann> bobleny, should be sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname-r`
[12:18] <Yorokobi> ragnork, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic (for the generic kernel package)
[12:18] <Chemicalvamp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13437/ so whats my corse of action here?
[12:18] <Yorokobi> bill__k, true enough :)
[12:19] <Chemicalvamp> sudo apt-get install java?
[12:19] <Yorokobi> Chemicalvamp, yes, install the java jdk
[12:19] <Yorokobi> sun-java-jdk????
[12:19] <dwidmann> lewix: which part? The removing of the old is done, but I'm supposing you haven't installed a newer version yet
[12:19] <Chemicalvamp> i got jre-1_5_0_11-linux-amd64.bin sitting here on my desktop
[12:20] <Chemicalvamp> im new.. i THINK i know how to install it, but im not sure
[12:20] <Sanne> Chemicalvamp: java ist in the ubuntu repositories, better install software from there if it's available.
[12:21] <dwidmann> Chemicalvamp: pull up konsole, chmod +x jre-1_5_0_11-linux-amd64.bin
[12:21] <dwidmann> then run it with ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-amd64.bin
[12:21] <Lewix> dwidmann, the old is removed ..now I want to install the newer ersion
[12:22] <Yorokobi> Chemicalvamp, you may have to run it as root (sudo ./jre...
[12:22] <dwidmann> Yorokobi: it extracts in the same directory, so running it as root shouldn't be necessary
[12:23] <Chemicalvamp> sudo chmod +x jre-1_5_0_11-linux-amd64.bin -->  chmod: cannot access `jre-1_5_0_11-linux-amd64.b': No such file or directory
[12:23] <ragnork> What is GCC?
[12:23] <dwidmann> lewix: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+package/amsn here is where you can find the latest
[12:23] <Yorokobi> dwidmann, running as root allows a global install instead of a user-specific install IIRC
[12:23] <dwidmann> ragnork: gnu compiler collection
[12:23] <Sanne> ragnork: gnu c compiler
[12:23] <ragnork> kk thanks
[12:23] <Lewix> dwidmann, edgy
[12:23] <Sanne> dwidmann: ah
[12:24] <dwidmann> lewix, there won't be any other upgrades for edgy, so if you want something newer you'll have to pull from feisty or compile from source
[12:24] <Lewix> dwidmann, how do I do that please and is it going to work properly
[12:24] <Yorokobi> lewix, alternatively, you can use other chat clients that support the MSN messenger transport (Gaim, Kopete, Psi)
[12:25] <Chemicalvamp> sudo chmod +x ~/desktop/jre-1_5_0_11-linux-amd64.bin didnt work either....
[12:25] <Lewix> Yorokobi, im looking for the best one
[12:25] <Lewix> Yorokobi, similar to msn
[12:25] <ragnork> Umm. a last one, how to see the content of a dir from the Konsole?
[12:25] <Yorokobi> heh, best and similar are not always the same :)
[12:25] <Chemicalvamp> ls isnt it?
[12:25] <Yorokobi> ragnork, ls
[12:26] <Moby_Dick> Good afternoon
[12:26] <dwidmann> lewix: well, after you've downloaded the *.deb, right click it, and go to kubuntu package menu -> install
[12:27] <Sanne> Chemicalvamp: so, again, you could just enable multiverse and install sun-java5-jre from adept/synaptic/apt.
[12:27] <dwidmann> if it fails, then you're going to have to start downloading some of its dependencies from the feisty branch also, which will likely be a bit tedious, but should work
[12:27] <Lewix> how do I do that from the cmd dwidmann  and thank you. aligato
[12:27] <Yorokobi> Sanne, unless Chemicalvamp wants to use the 64bit Java libraries
[12:27] <dwidmann> from cmd? dpkg --install thefilename.deb
[12:27] <Chemicalvamp> yes i need 64 bit
[12:27] <dwidmann> 64-bit ftw!
[12:28] <Chemicalvamp> 32-bit FTL
[12:28] <Sanne> Chemicalvamp, Yorokobi: sun java is avaliable for 64 bit. The mozilla plugin may be not, though.
[12:29] <Yorokobi> Chemicalvamp, are you going to have Java access more than 4 GB of memory? That's about the only reason I've seen anyone use 64bit java
[12:29] <dwidmann> Sanne: the plugin isn't.
[12:29] <Sanne> dwidmann: yeah, as I said ;). But for eclipse I guess it isn't needed.
[12:29] <Moby_Dick> does anybody here know good cd burning software for kde?
[12:29] <Sanne> Moby_Dick: k3b
[12:30] <Yorokobi> Moby_Dick, k3b
[12:30] <Chemicalvamp> i dont know, i run an amd64 notebook, a bug fix for eclipse said to use 64 bit.. i guess
[12:30] <dwidmann> Yorokobi: unless you need to use closed source legacy applications that haven't been ported to amd64, I can see no viable reason why you would want to take a performance hit (i386 doesn't win in any category except memory consumption)
[12:30] <Moby_Dick> k3b seems to ruin a lot of cds
[12:30] <Chemicalvamp> i just want it to work! lol
[12:30] <dwidmann> k3b is the best one out. If you're having trouble with it, then upgrade to k3b 1.0
[12:31] <dwidmann> Definitely make sure to get dvd+rwtools version 7.0 also
[12:31] <Yorokobi> Moby_Dick, you could try cdrecord but k3b is better IMHO
[12:31] <Sanne> Chemicalvamp: well, I don't use eclipse, but I have sun java installed from the repositories, and I'm also on amd64, to run some java software. You can try, I guess.
[12:31] <tarelerulz> How do you unrar stuff ?
[12:31] <dwidmann> Yorokobi: k3b is a frontend to cdrecord ...
[12:31] <Yorokobi> tarelerulz, install the unrar package and use either ark or 'unrar ??.rar'
[12:32] <Yorokobi> dwidmann, haha, I did not know that.
[12:32] <Alda> tarelerulz if you have ark just click the .rar
[12:32] <tarelerulz> I use the free unrar and all ,but it don't ahve it in ark
[12:32] <Moby_Dick> okay k3b 1.0, mine  is 0.12, and it does not upgrade with the apt-get update
[12:33] <Sesshoumaru> my hdd won't mount.. HELP
[12:33] <dwidmann> Yorokobi: it can also use cdrdao, I think it uses cdrdao by default though now that I think about it
[12:33] <Lewix> dwidmann, so how do i do that from the command line? apt-get install *.deb?
[12:33] <Mantis> hello all....I'm new and I have a question about boot loaders
[12:33] <tulio__> does anyone know why my kaffeine play avi files but there no image or sound appearing?
[12:33] <dwidmann> Moby_Dick: yeah ... easiest way is probably to fetch from source, unless you're in the mood to upgrade to feisty :P
[12:33] <tarelerulz> Kaffieine does that to me too tulio
[12:34] <dwidmann> tulio__: avi is just a container format. It's all dependant on what video and audio codecs are used, and if you have support for those
[12:34] <Sesshoumaru> try vlc player
[12:34] <tarelerulz> vlc don't seem to do menus
[12:34] <dwidmann> I can play virtually anything in kaffeine. Especially with the kmplayer backend, hehehe
[12:34] <Chemicalvamp> sudo chmod +x /home/bott/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_11-linux-amd64.bin worked
[12:34] <tulio__> dwidmann: i think a have installed all the packages necessary for playing that
[12:34] <Sesshoumaru> ? menus
[12:34] <Mantis> When I installed Kubuntu the bootloader automatically boots into linux after a few seconds, is there an easy way to change this?  I'd kinda like it to go to windows until I'm more comfortable with linux
[12:35] <Sesshoumaru> i play alot of different formats on it
[12:35] <tulio__> tarelerulz: does vlc play on your pc?
[12:35] <dwidmann> tulio__: wouldn't happen to know what video and audio codecs that particular avi uses would you?
[12:35] <Yorokobi> Mantis, grub should give you a menu if it detected a Windows install
[12:35] <gravespk> Dwidmann: Ok, OS installed... system boots fine.... how can I check the status of the disks?
[12:35] <Lewix> hmm and how do I delette a folder from the cmd line again?
[12:35] <tarelerulz> Yes it vlc plays on my pc .
[12:35] <tulio__> dwidmann: dont know
[12:35] <tarelerulz> I read iso file for jap movie and it don't read the menu
[12:36] <tulio__> ill try vlc
[12:36] <Lewix> and how to I go back from a directory
[12:36] <tarelerulz> It does see iso file which is hot for movies
[12:36] <dwidmann> gravespk: I think it's mdadm-monitor or something, I'd have to look it up. I don't really have much use for RAID myself (I do have a nice lvm setup though)
[12:36] <Mantis> I did get a menu, I didn't see anything about which OS it would boot into though
[12:36] <Yorokobi> Mantis, usually, the last one in the list is Windows
[12:36] <Yorokobi> !grub | Mantis
[12:36] <ubotu> Mantis: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:37] <Mantis> All right, I'll look arround a bit
[12:37] <Chemicalvamp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13437/ AGAIN
[12:37] <dwidmann> gravespk: also, you can look at /proc/mdstat
[12:37] <Mantis> thanks, I'll pop back in if I can't figure it out
[12:37] <Sanne> Mantis: you can edit the default os grubboots into in /boot/grub/menu.lst (make a backup first)
[12:38] <dwidmann> graves: http://unthought.net/Software-RAID.HOWTO/Software-RAID.HOWTO-6.html
[12:38] <dwidmann> Tells you a way to test via software too
[12:38] <Sanne> Mantis: if you want, I can help you do that.
[12:39] <Sesshoumaru> wow.. i didn't know that vlc could play iso
[12:39] <dwidmann> Lewix: dpkg --install to install, "cd .." to go up a directory
[12:39] <Lewix> dwidmann, thanks
[12:39] <Lewix> I was doind cd..
[12:39] <Lewix> it's stupid^^ (the space)
[12:40] <tarelerulz> does vlc have problem read smbmount ?
[12:40] <Mantis> Sanne:  thanks for the offer, If I run into any trouble, I'll get back with you
[12:40] <Moby_Dick> now when I upgrade k3b ... should I uninstall the one that comes with edgy
[12:40] <Sanne> Mantis: ok, good luck :)
[12:40] <Chemicalvamp> why must i run something 2 time before it actually loads?
[12:40] <dwidmann> Moby_Dick: I would, b ut you don't really need to
[12:41] <Chemicalvamp> had to run adept 3 times before it loaded that tome
[12:41] <Moby_Dick> what about the back end, cdrecord and cdrao?
[12:42] <Moby_Dick> should those be upgraded automatically?
[12:42] <Lewix> dwidmann, and once it's done?
[12:43] <Sanne> Chemicalvamp: sometimes apps that you run as admin, like adept or synaptic, fail to start the first time. It has to do with kdesu confusing itself. It's a known bug, as far as I understood, and hopefully worked on.
[12:43] <Chemicalvamp> ok glad its not just me...
[12:43] <Sesshoumaru> can someone help me with nvidia
[12:43] <Sanne> Chemicalvamp: yup, it's not you :)
[12:43] <tarelerulz> I have had all sorts of problem with kubuntu when I installed it
[12:44] <Chemicalvamp> one more: from time to time when i type, it spontaniously pastes is that everybody too?
[12:44] <Yorokobi> Chemicalvamp, are you hitting Shift-Insert or Ctrl-V on accident?
[12:44] <Chemicalvamp> nope
[12:45] <Sesshoumaru> come on theres like 362 people in here..
[12:45] <tarelerulz> I had ark go out on me the first time  installed kubuntu
[12:45] <Sanne> Chemicalvamp: no, not here.  How the world can I get my drivers???
[12:48] <dwidmann> Moby_Dick: I t hink it is, it would all depend on your reaons for wanting to do so, and how much bandwidth you have (seeing as it is a rather large download)
[12:48] <tulio__> it is still not playing avi images
[12:48] <tulio__> does anyone knows why?
[12:48] <dwidmann> Moby_Dick:  here's how - https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[12:48] <Moby_Dick> I was looking at that.
[12:48] <Yorokobi> tulio__, you may need to get the w32codecs from the seveas repositories
[12:48] <tulio__> seveas?
[12:48] <tarelerulz> get mplayer tulio that works great
[12:48] <dwidmann> !seveas | tulio__
[12:48] <tulio__> i have it from another repo
[12:49] <ubotu> tulio__: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[12:49] <Sesshoumaru> which syntax?
[12:49] <Moby_Dick> But so far 6.10 is going well for me, just the cd burning  software
[12:49] <Yorokobi> Moby_Dick, I've had the upgrade work both times but it was a serious pain on my server/workstation (a breeze on my laptop)
[12:49] <tulio__> tarelerulz: im using vlc
[12:49] <tarelerulz> really I don't know what to say It just worked for me,but I have not try avi yet
[12:49] <tarelerulz> I have been use for move iso
[12:50] <gravespk> ARGH... this whole linux raid idea is starting to become more trouble than its worth
[12:50] <dwidmann> AVI is just a container. It is a completely open format. The problems people run into are with copyrighted vidoe and audio codecs
[12:50] <dwidmann> gravespk: what's up now?
[12:51] <tulio__> audio is fine, but the video sometimes appear and sometimes it dont
[12:51] <tulio__> can it be because of xgl?
[12:51] <tarelerulz> that is why  I use mplayer it read wma,wmv , avi ogg and couple I can't remember
[12:51] <Yorokobi> tulio__, quite possibly
[12:52] <Yorokobi> I've had problems with xine in Xgl
[12:52] <dwidmann> tulio__: not likely at all
[12:52] <dwidmann> well, maybe, try switching its video out driver ...
[12:52] <gravespk> Well I ran cat /proc/mdstat (per instructions on a linux md raid setup guide) to see the status of my RAID.... 1)It's confusing, completely unuserfriendly (I saw the status of my raid but have NO CLUE what any of it meant).... beyond that.... in their example both parts of the raid (the source & mirror partitions) were listed.... in mine its only listing one, making me think that maybe my raid isnt working
[12:52] <tulio__> dwidmann: how?
[12:52] <dwidmann> settings -> configure xine engine
[12:53] <dwidmann> video tab
[12:53] <Sesshoumaru> ok. i paste the xorg.conf
[12:53] <tulio__> there is only GL Desktop in the Settings option
[12:53] <dwidmann> xv is best, but if it's not working try other things
[12:53] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, what's the URL (or number at the end)
[12:53] <Moby_Dick> Which is easier on the resources gnome or kde
[12:53] <dwidmann> tulio__: I mean in kaffeine
[12:53] <dwidmann> Moby_Dick: they're about the same really
[12:53] <Sesshoumaru> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13447/
[12:54] <tarelerulz> mplayer is fun like that swith  video out and sound out
[12:54] <Moby_Dick> I can't really tell the difference, I guess gnome doesn't have a "start" menu
[12:54] <tulio__> dwidmann: ok
[12:54] <tulio__> sorry
[12:55] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, wow, that's as bare-boned a config as you can get :) ... one sec
[12:55] <Yorokobi> Moby_Dick, Gnome's "start" menu is the Applications menu
[12:55] <dwidmann> Option         "metamodes" "1440x900_60 +0+0; 800x600 +0+0; 640x480 +0+0" <--- this line looks like it was one added by nvidia-settings, right?
[12:57] <mervteck> can anyone tell me how to repartition the unused space on my drive?
[12:57] <dwidmann> mervteck: well, you can use something like fdisk, parted, or qtparted
[12:57] <mervteck> in running Kubuntu Edgy
[12:57] <dwidmann> mervteck: preferably from a live cd if you're using the disk in any way
[12:58] <mervteck> so... boot from live cd then repartition it?
[12:58] <dwidmann> yeah
[12:58] <mervteck> k brb gonna boot on live cd
[01:00] <calamari> hi
[01:00] <tarelerulz> God I love VLC when it works right. I am watching jap movie with english subtitles
[01:00] <calamari> can I set my desktop as my home directory?  I created a symliunk but I don't see to have any icons on the desktop yet
[01:01] <HymnToLife> tarelerulz, same here but I don't use it cause I don't like when it does _not_ work right :p
[01:01] <Tm_T> calamari: no you can,t and you never wan't
[01:01] <HymnToLife> calamari, you don't want to do that
[01:01] <tarelerulz> That is lame ,but I am donig good so far
[01:01] <calamari> HymnToLife: yes, I do
[01:02] <tarelerulz> If mplayer would read iso I would be use it
[01:02] <Tm_T> calamari: if you manage to do that some way, you end up to have, well, pile of poopoo
[01:02] <calamari> that's how I had it in gnome, and it was great
[01:02] <Tm_T> IF I understood what you mean
[01:02] <calamari> err.. maybe I said it backwards
[01:03] <calamari> I'd like my home directory to be my desktop
[01:03] <calamari> so that when I put stuff in the home dir it shows up on the desktop
[01:03] <Tm_T> uff
[01:03] <gravespk> is SATA hot-swappable?
[01:03] <Yorokobi> calamari, not a good idea
[01:03] <HymnToLife> gravespk, in theory, yes
[01:03] <calamari> Yorokobi: why not?
[01:03] <dwidmann> make /home/blah/desktop a symlink to /home/blah, then pull up konsole, "killall kdesktop && kdesktop"
[01:04] <gravespk> So, "IN THEORY" what happens if I unplug one of my hard drives?
[01:04] <calamari> thanks.. just need to do the killall then
[01:04] <HymnToLife> dunno, I never dared to try :p
[01:04] <Tm_T> calamari: no, don't do killall
[01:04] <Tm_T> calamari: there's cleaner way, I'm sure
[01:04] <dwidmann> gravespk: in theory it would work, but I'd be damned if I'd want to try it and find out
[01:04] <HymnToLife> yep
[01:04] <HymnToLife> logout and log back in
[01:04] <calamari> can someone who is telling me not to do this, please kindly tell me WHY?
[01:05] <calamari> :)
[01:05] <HymnToLife> because usually, you put lots of stuff in your home
[01:05] <calamari> ahh, so the clutter issue
[01:05] <HymnToLife> so if all that appears on the desktop, it will be insanely full
[01:05] <calamari> it's fine as long as it hides dot files
[01:05] <Yorokobi> If you set you Desktop to the home its fine. If you try to set your home to Desktop (yes, semantically different) then you could have problems.
[01:05] <gravespk> God I hope a terrorist never kidnaps my girlfriend and threatens to kill her if I don't build them a working Linux Raid.............  I bought a motherboard with onboard RAID..... little did I know that it requires Windows to function
[01:07] <Chemicalvamp> yay adept has been installing for like an hour now.. still 28%
[01:07] <Yorokobi> gravespk, yeah. My MB has that option, I chose to go without RAID
[01:07] <Jisao> gravespk, you're screwed when you have that type of raid and the mobo dies.  Often the hardware is then obsolete.
[01:07] <dwidmann> gravespk: you can get the motherboards sort to function still, sort of, in reality it's just an eased interface to software raid
[01:08] <gravespk> Wait a second
[01:08] <Yorokobi> RAID with Linux works great, so long as you're using a hardware controller (ie, Adaptec)
[01:08] <dwidmann> jisao, but he's using pure software with mdadm ...
[01:08] <Moby_Dick> with the k3b which is a newer version.  ubuntu 0.12.17 or the k3b 1.0 ?
[01:08] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi did you find anything wrong with the cfg?
[01:08] <gravespk> is there a way in linux to make 2 folders continually mirrored... i.e. if I have a folder such as /home/pgraves/Stuff ..... does linux have a function to monitor changes to that folder and mirror it at another location (i.e. /home/pgraves/stuff2)
[01:09] <dwidmann> Moby_Dick: 1.0 is hot off the press, only about a week old :)
[01:09] <HymnToLife> Moby_Dick, as far as I know, 1.0 > 0.12 :p
[01:09] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, :) I was waiting for you to answer dwidmann's question about the "metamodes" entry
[01:09] <Sesshoumaru> i didn't see it :(
[01:10] <dwidmann> Option         "metamodes" "1440x900_60 +0+0; 800x600 +0+0; 640x480 +0+0" <--- this line looks like it was one added by nvidia-settings, right?
[01:10] <vvv> how do i get kubuntu to auto start beryl everytime i log in.. i folllowed the instructions on beryl's website but it doesn't seem to work
[01:10] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, I have two suggestions. Try it with the metamodes entry commented out. If that fails, try it with the DPMS entry commented out, then try it with both commented out.
[01:11] <Yorokobi> I guess that's three suggestions
[01:11] <vvv> i don't see to have the beryl manager? should i install that? the script i used said it should auto launch
[01:11] <vvv> but it doesn't even seem to be installed
[01:11] <Sesshoumaru> i also have nv disabled in linux-restricted-modules-common..
[01:11] <Yorokobi> vvv, yes, install beryl-manager
[01:11] <dwidmann> the metamodes entry *should* force the resolution that is listed first, at least it gets the WorksForMe stamp of approval
[01:11] <Jisao> Kubuntu crashed on me now and then.  What is the best way to discover what is really going on?
[01:12] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, you're using the nvidia driver so nv shouldn't be used.
[01:12] <Sesshoumaru> >.<   i have no idea what your talking about
[01:12] <Moby_Dick> Has anybody here install k3b 1.0 on edgy?
[01:12] <Sesshoumaru> yeah i thought so
[01:12] <vvv> ok yorokobi i'll try and come back if it doesn't help. .thanks for the confirmation though. just wasnt' sure what to do
[01:12] <Chemicalvamp> how do i killall adept?
[01:13] <Yorokobi> Chemicalvamp, sudo killall adept_manager
[01:13] <dwidmann> Jisao: I'd check the logs in /var/log, particularly dmesg
[01:14] <Sesshoumaru> so i should have only one resolution in the cfg like 1440 x 900 ?
[01:14] <Jisao> ok
[01:14] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, the resolutions should go from the highest supported to the lowest supported
[01:14] <dwidmann> Sesshoumaru: I'm betting it was written in by nvidia-settings, and you're saying it's not taking that resolution right (that's the one you want, correct?)
[01:15] <Sesshoumaru> umm.. sure
[01:15] <Chemicalvamp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13453/ please, what do i have to kill to upgrade to 7.04?
[01:15] <mervteck> hey dwid i was in qtpartition or somthing like that in live cd and it would only let me reformat the whole chunk not jsut make the one smaller
[01:15] <dwidmann> Sesshoumaru: so what resolution are you running at right now?
[01:15] <Sesshoumaru> 1440 x 900 but i have to set this every time i start the computer
[01:16] <sketchb0x> kubuntu is going to take over the world
[01:16] <Yorokobi> Chemicalvamp, 'ps wax | grep adept' then sudo kill -9 <pid>
[01:16] <sketchb0x> watch
[01:16] <Sesshoumaru> it starts in 1240 or whatever
[01:16] <dwidmann> mervteck: what's your current partition setup? (You can get a pretty nice printout by running the command sudo "parted /dev/<device> print" substituting the device name of course
[01:16] <N6REJ> anyone know how to remove a program from wine?
[01:16] <Sesshoumaru> i have ubuntu .. theres no real difference right?
[01:17] <Sesshoumaru> from kubuntu
[01:17] <compilerwriter> I am about to compile ktorrent from source.  I have torrents running.  I should be able to stop them compile the latest version and then have it pick up where I left off should I not?
[01:17] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, only the X window manager (Gnome v KDE)
[01:17] <dwidmann> Sesshoumaru: I have an idea
[01:18] <dwidmann> Sesshoumaru: on the line   Modes      "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[01:18] <vvv> could anyone link me to a how to install mplayer guide a current one
[01:18] <vvv> i'm a linux newb and i don't know about compilers and everything
[01:18] <dwidmann> remove 1600x1200 and 1280x1024, and add 1440x900 in their place
[01:18] <Jisao> any clue in particular I am looking for, dwidmann ?
[01:19] <calamari> desktop is good now, thanks :)
[01:19] <dwidmann> vvv: first, download the source, then run this command: "sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer", you have to have the deb-src repositories enabled though
[01:19] <mervteck> i dont rember the name of the hd i got>.<
[01:19] <dwidmann> after t hat, extract the source, run "./configure && make && sudo make install"
[01:20] <dwidmann> mervteck: probably hda or sda
[01:20] <vvv> i see ty thats the command i was missing
[01:20] <Sesshoumaru>         Modes      "1440x900" "1440x900" "1440x900" "800x600" "640x480"
[01:20] <Sesshoumaru> 800x600 640x80 too?
[01:20] <Chemicalvamp> yorokobi: still didnt work
[01:20] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, you only need one entry for each resolution
[01:20] <gravespk> Does Ubuntu have a function for continually mirroring folders? (I.e. ensuring that any changes made to /home/pgraves/stuff1 is also made to /home/pgraves/stuff2)
[01:20] <dwidmann> Sesshoumaru: no no no, you only need one entry of 1440x900
[01:20] <Yorokobi> !adept | Chemicalvamp
[01:20] <ubotu> Chemicalvamp: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[01:20] <vvv> will that install the plugins to media player as well dwidmann
[01:20] <Sesshoumaru> ok i'll try it
[01:20] <just-this-time> f-spot is a gnome prog howto use it from kde to export to picasaweb.google.com
[01:21] <vvv> cause i can install it. but i can't install the codec to make it work
[01:21] <Yorokobi> argh, that didn't have all the info I was looking for ...
[01:21] <dwidmann> Sesshoumaru:  something lke "Modes      "1440x900" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480""
[01:21] <Sesshoumaru> what about metamode
[01:21] <Sesshoumaru>     Option         "metamodes" "1440x900_60 +0+0; 800x600 +0+0; 640x480 +0+0"
[01:21] <dwidmann> Sesshoumaru: leave metamode alone, it looks okay
[01:22] <mervteck> Disk /dev/hdb: 160GB
[01:22] <Yorokobi> !adept_manager > Yorokobi
[01:22] <mervteck> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
[01:22] <mervteck> Partition Table: msdos
[01:22] <mervteck> Number  Start   End    Size    Type      File system  Flags
[01:22] <mervteck>  1      32.3kB  154GB  154GB   primary   ext3         boot
[01:22] <mervteck>  2      154GB   160GB  6169MB  extended
[01:22] <dwidmann> vvv: no, you'd need to download the w32codecs seperately and put them in /usr/lib/win32
[01:22] <mervteck>  5      154GB   160GB  6169MB  logical   linux-swap
[01:22] <mervteck> sorry for the spam >.<
[01:22] <dwidmann> I've gotta go, I'll be back later
[01:22] <Sesshoumaru> ok.. i'm restarting. if x doesn't start ,, i'm suing you!  lol :P
[01:22] <vvv> when i try and put it into the directory it says i dont' have premission
[01:23] <gravespk> ANYONE?
[01:23] <gravespk> see ya Dwidmann
[01:23] <vvv> cya dwid and thanks
[01:23] <Yorokobi> gravespk, you could make one a symlink to the other
[01:23] <hyuma> hello guys
[01:24] <hyuma> does anyone knows if there is a fix fo kopete bug with DCC request?
[01:24] <hyuma> server irc.darksin.net
[01:24] <Moby_Dick> Qt4 seems to be in ubuntu, but it says my version isn't new enough?  Has anybody here had to manually install Qt4?
[01:24] <mervteck> can anyone help me get my repartition to work?
[01:25] <vvv> i have a windows parition on my computer... but kubuntu won't let me mount it.. ubuntu let's me mount my other harddrives without a problem
[01:25] <vvv> how do i fix this issue?
[01:27] <dug> i have been looking into my issue for awhile, and theres many people saying to fix it many ways. I was using 6.06 kubuntu live cd, liked it so I got edgy and installed it. My wireless card worked fine with 6.06 but with edgy I cant get it to work. It sees networks but wont connect to them, even open networks.
[01:27] <ubuntu> hello i have a problem
[01:27] <ubuntu> WHo can help me please
[01:28] <Yorokobi> ubuntu, depends on what your problem is
[01:28] <Yorokobi> dug, what wifi chipset is your wifi card?
[01:28] <ubuntu> i am on kubuntu trying to listen to an online radiostream
[01:28] <Yorokobi> that was redundant :)
[01:28] <ubuntu> but i hear no audio
[01:28] <vvv> does anyone know what i have to install to be able to mount harddrives?
[01:29] <Yorokobi> ubuntu, what's the URL for the radio station?
[01:29] <Moby_Dick> dug, what are you using to "see" networks
[01:29] <ubuntu> Yorokobi: its one of the coolstreams in amarok
[01:30] <dug> tried wireless assistant and kwlan whats the cmd again to show what my chipset is again
[01:30] <ubuntu> i cant hear mp3 only ogg
[01:30] <dug> i think its along the line of lipsc
[01:30] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi: its still in 1024x768
[01:30] <Moby_Dick> dug, with both of my wireless cards, the gui assistant wouldn't work so I would have to type sudo iwconfig eth0 essid 'linksys'
[01:30] <Moby_Dick> or whatever the name of the network you want is.
[01:30] <dug> so it would be ath0
[01:31] <Moby_Dick> dug, your using an atheros card?
[01:31] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, what does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log say ?
[01:31] <dug> yes
[01:31] <Chemicalvamp> trying to fix dependancies.... got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13458/ in konsole and i dont know how to get past it please
[01:31] <dug> i cant remember the cmd to show what it is
[01:31] <hyuma> what's the better IRC client for kubuntu?
[01:31] <Moby_Dick> dug, I have one of those and I had to install mad wifi to get it to work.
[01:31] <ubuntu> i am a major n00b
[01:31] <ubuntu> that scares me all
[01:32] <dug> yea i came across them and was wondering if it would work
[01:32] <Yorokobi> Chemicalvamp, tab :)
[01:32] <Yorokobi> then enter
[01:32] <dug> great i have the install page
[01:32] <Moby_Dick> dug, and when I upgraded my kernal I had to reinstall mad wifi
[01:32] <Chemicalvamp> tyvm again
[01:32] <Moby_Dick> dug, do both of the lights flash on your network card?
[01:32] <dug> ok thanks moby i just wanted to be sure it worked so i wouldnt be trying out 100s of different ways
[01:32] <dug> yes they are flashing
[01:32] <ubuntu> can i get hacked on linux?
[01:32] <Moby_Dick> both of them?
[01:32] <dug> yes they go back and forth
[01:32] <jhutchins> hyuma: I like konversation, kopete will do IRC, and xchat is available as well.  I think those are the most popular.
[01:33] <dug> it sees networks and what not but wont get on them
[01:33] <compilerwriter> Would someone be kind enough to take me by the hand on a compile of ktorrent.  I think I might be messing something up.
[01:33] <Yorokobi> ubuntu, which version of amarok are you using ?
[01:33] <hyuma> jhutchins:  thanks, but konversation is bugged with dcc chat
[01:33] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi i see nothing about nvidia errors..
[01:33] <Moby_Dick> try typing from a terminal, sudo ath0 essid 'networkname'
[01:33] <hyuma> I've noticed problem with fserve triggers
[01:33] <Moby_Dick> then; sudo dhclient ath0
[01:33] <vit_> hey men
[01:33] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, paste them to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please
[01:33] <vit_> i have a problem
[01:34] <ubuntu> all i want is to hear audio from amarok why is it so hard Chemicalvamp you totally confused me instead of helped me
[01:34] <Moby_Dick> because when both my lights flash, my card is working.
[01:34] <jhutchins> compilerwriter: If you're having trouble compiling it might be best to stick to .deb packages for a while.
[01:34] <ubuntu> i am in panic niw
[01:34] <ubuntu> now
[01:34] <Moby_Dick> But mad wifi did get it to work.
[01:34] <hyuma> maybe xchat is better for dcc'ing
[01:34] <ubuntu> amarok 1.4.3
[01:34] <Yorokobi> dug, do you have the linux-kerner-restricted-? package installed?
[01:35] <Yorokobi> ubuntu, do you also have amarok-xine installed?
[01:35] <dug> sudo ath0 essid linux
[01:35] <dug> Password:
[01:35] <dug> sudo: ath0: command not found
[01:35] <dug> got that error
[01:35] <hyuma> jhutchins: do you use beryl?
[01:35] <Moby_Dick> I'm sorry, iwconfig
[01:35] <Moby_Dick> I'm sorry, iwconfig ath0 essid linux
[01:35] <ubuntu> i dont know what that means even Yorokobi
[01:35] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi how do i copy all with nano
[01:35] <Sesshoumaru> i can't highlight it all with my nouse
[01:35] <jhutchins> hyuma: No.  I have an old video card that does what I need, but probably would just be frustrating with beryl.
[01:36] <hyuma> I've old video card too
[01:36] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, I dunno. I rarely use nano. Try highlighting it with the mouse then copy&paste
[01:36] <dug> iwconfig ath0 essid linux
[01:36] <dug> Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :
[01:36] <dug>     SET failed on device ath0 ; Operation not permitted.
[01:36] <hyuma> mine is geforce 2 gts with 32MB RAM
[01:36] <Sesshoumaru> nevermind i'll use a defferent editor
[01:36] <Yorokobi> oh
[01:36] <hyuma> but beryl is crazy
[01:36] <hyuma> and works well
[01:36] <Yorokobi> ubuntu, in konsole, type 'sudo apt-get install amarok-xine'
[01:37] <dug> its enabled
[01:37] <dug> ive tried about everything but ill give madwifi a shot
[01:37] <Moby_Dick> sudo dhclient ath0
[01:37] <dug> k
[01:37] <vvv> is thier away to mount  ntfs harddrives in kubuntu? like you can in ubuntu
[01:37] <jhutchins> hyuma: Actually, for a great many people beryl does not work at all.
[01:37] <hyuma> ah really?
[01:37] <ubuntu> it says amarok0-xine is already the latest Yorokobi
[01:38] <jhutchins> hyuma: I don't think it's even ready for a beta release yet, but it's out there.
[01:38] <jhutchins> !ntfs | vvv
[01:38] <ubotu> vvv: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:38] <dug> its trying to discover
[01:38] <compilerwriter> jhutchins:  I am not sure if I have a problem or not.  I would just like someone to walk me through it.  The directions on ktorrent.org look simple enough.  I just need a bit of advice on some configure output.
[01:38] <vvv> ty
[01:38] <Chemicalvamp> gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf command for kubuntu please?
[01:38] <vvv> ty ubotu
[01:38] <Sesshoumaru> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13461/
[01:38] <Yorokobi> Chemicalvamp, subst gedit with kate
[01:38] <ubuntu> Yorokobi:  so why am i not hearing sound?
[01:38] <Moby_Dick> did you get the network name correct?
[01:39] <dug> yes
[01:39] <hyuma> jhutchins: test the aalib with xine
[01:39] <Yorokobi> ubuntu, I dunno ... there may be another package that is required
[01:39] <eilker> !eudora
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eudora - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <hyuma> jhutchins: and open an avi file
[01:39] <jhutchins> compilerwriter: Standard advice for this channel is that working within the package manager is the best way to avoid problems.  Compiling your own software should be done by people who understand what they're doing, and why.  Other than the following:
[01:39] <jhutchins> !build | compilerwriter
[01:39] <ubotu> compilerwriter: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:39] <jhutchins> !packages
[01:39] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[01:39] <ubuntu> if windows sucks so much and linux  is supposed to be so good why isnt it working such a simple thing as hearing sound
[01:40] <Yorokobi> ubuntu, I've never had a problem with Amarok and MP3s
[01:40] <hyuma> does the ntfsck is ready for linux?
[01:40] <ubuntu> thats what they all say
[01:40] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Because of updated soundcard chipsets and volunteers developing new drivers for alsa in the kernel.
[01:40] <ubuntu> i cant hear the music
[01:40] <ubuntu> who can help me :(
[01:40] <vvv> kubuntu doesn't even pick up my 5.1
[01:40] <vvv> only 2.1 in kubuntu and ubuntu
[01:41] <jhutchins> hyuma: Have you followed this?
[01:41] <jhutchins> !audio | ubuntu
[01:41] <ubotu> ubuntu: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:41] <jhutchins> vvv: Your sound card manufacturer has not provided the specs so that someone could write a 5.1 driver.
[01:41] <ubuntu> why is this so hard to do
[01:42] <jhutchins> vvv: You may find some help in the troublshooting file above though.
[01:42] <hyuma> what's jhutchins ?
[01:42] <ubuntu> windows has trojans but at least stuff just works
[01:42] <Yorokobi> ubuntu, 'sudo apt-get install libxine1'
[01:42] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi did you get the link?
[01:42] <Minataku> ubuntu: Windows' tendency to "just work" is typically why things are so hard in Linux
[01:42] <jhutchins> ubuntu: That's because you pay people to write the drivers.
[01:43] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu: at least until vista came along
[01:43] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, sorry, I missed it ... one sec
[01:43] <jhutchins> When things don't work in Linux, I can fix them.  In windows, I have to wait for someone to fix them for me.
[01:43] <Minataku> jhutchins: If that ever happens
[01:43] <jhutchins> Minataku: Right.
[01:43] <ubuntu> libxine1 is already installed Yorokobi
[01:43] <Minataku> And asking if you can fix them yourself gets you "No, this is our intellectual property blah blah trade secrets blah proprietary"
[01:43] <Minataku> It's all money poisoning
[01:44] <jhutchins> Minataku: Sometimes the "we know what's best for you" fix is worse than the problem.
[01:44] <Minataku> Forget cyanide, forget ricin, money is the strongest poison known to man
[01:44] <Yorokobi> ubuntu, what audio chipset do you have?
[01:44] <Minataku> It's effects also reach far beyond just humans
[01:44] <ubuntu> creative live 5.11
[01:44] <vvv> do i need to have wine installed to install mplayer codec?
[01:44] <ubuntu> 5.1
[01:44] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, I see /dev/wacom errors, not nvidia errors
[01:44] <jhutchins> vvv: No.
[01:44] <Minataku> Money poisoning can damage anything, biological or synthetic, living or dead
[01:44] <vvv> how do i get premission to add files into usr  folder?
[01:45] <jhutchins> !mp3 | vvv
[01:45] <ubotu> vvv: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:45] <jhutchins> vvv: Start with the first one, that should get you going.
[01:45] <vvv> ty
[01:45] <Yorokobi> ubuntu, you may benefit from !mp3 as well
[01:45] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Do you know what kernel you have?
[01:46] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi.. maybe i should manualy edit the cfgs.. cause there back to the original
[01:46] <ubuntu> 2.6
[01:46] <jhutchins> ubuntu: which 2.6?
[01:46] <ubuntu> kernel
[01:46] <Minataku> ...
[01:46] <Jarn> !lua
[01:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lua - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:46] <Jarn> Anyone know a program that can be used to edit lua files?
[01:46] <ubuntu> !mp3
[01:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:46] <jhutchins> ubuntu: uname -r in a console.
[01:46] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, I had to get rid of the stylus and other entries in my xorg.conf when I nuked all the wacom Device entries
[01:47] <hyuma> jhutchins:  can you help me please how to write in NTFS HDD ?
[01:47] <ubuntu> what does a kernel have to do with the mp3 being unhearable?
[01:47] <jhutchins> !ntfs-3g | hyuma
[01:47] <ubotu> hyuma: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:47] <ubuntu> now i realize how good windows is
[01:48] <mrand> I'm looking for a (k)ubuntu package equivalent to lxdvdrip
[01:48] <Minataku> ubuntu: Perhaps your mixer settings have the volume turned down?
[01:48] <jhutchins> ubuntu: The alsa drivers which handle sound cards are part of the kernel.  There is an update in the pipeline that fixes a number of problems.
[01:48] <mrand> does anyone know of one?
[01:48] <soulrider> hi everyone
[01:48] <ubuntu> Minataku:  i check all that already
[01:48] <vvv> jhutchins which media player allows me to run my movie as my desktop? or is that another program all together?
[01:48] <jhutchins> !dvd | mrand
[01:48] <ubotu> mrand: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[01:48] <Minataku> ubuntu: Saying that over and over doesn't make anyone want to help you
[01:48] <soulrider> mrand: how about k9copy ?
[01:48] <mrand> jhutchins: thanks
[01:48] <jhutchins> Sorry guys, I gotta go.  Later.
[01:48] <soulrider> ubuntu is a bot guys, dont talk to him!
[01:48] <voorhees86> what is te best msn software?
[01:48] <vvv> later and thanks again jhut
[01:48] <Minataku> soulrider: That's ubotu
[01:49] <ubuntu> this is the reason why windows will always remain dominant linux isnt helping its forcing people to use windows because they dont want to spend so much time to get simple things to work
[01:49] <hyuma> thank you ubotu and jhutchins
[01:49] <hyuma> :))
[01:49] <dwidmann> define simple
[01:49] <Moby_Dick> mrdlouisd, when my network card works, both lights flash at the same time
[01:50] <Minataku> ubuntu: No, when people refuse to listen to suggestions or recieve help, that's where the problem arises
[01:50] <Minataku> ubuntu: Either knock it off and calm down, or just go away
[01:50] <ubuntu> you guys are supposed to be so smart and 1337 adn all yet cant help me to hear audio
[01:50] <Moby_Dick> mrdlouisd, and I used mad wifi then it work
[01:50] <Alonea> ubuntu: you have checked your mixer right?
[01:50] <ubuntu> yes
[01:50] <Minataku> And insulting us is hardly going to get you anywhere
[01:50] <dwidmann> !attitude | ubuntu
[01:50] <ubotu> ubuntu: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:50] <hyuma> ubotu: I've problem with NTFS HDD and I can't read it in windows because I've page fault error, so I'm triyng to do some fsck from linux for this hard disk.... do you have idea?
[01:51] <hyuma> !ntfsck
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <Minataku> ubuntu: Linux can be easy, but it requires you to learn
[01:51] <Minataku> You seem to be completely unwilling to learn, so of course it's going to be difficult
[01:51] <ubuntu> its helping me get over my sadness that linux isnt that good afterall
[01:51] <Moby_Dick> ubuntu do you get any sounds out of your speakers
[01:51] <hyuma> !beryl
[01:51] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:52] <ubuntu> only ogg i hear
[01:52] <Minataku> Drop the "Do it all for me" attitude
[01:52] <ubuntu> welcome sound
[01:52] <voorhees86> what is te best msn software?
[01:52] <Moby_Dick> you hear ogg?
[01:52] <hyuma> voorhees86: I'm using kopete
[01:52] <hyuma> it's ok
[01:52] <Alonea> ubuntu: Ok, so you are having trouble playing mp3s?
[01:52] <Minataku> ubuntu: In that case, it sounds like you don't have any MP3 decoding support if you can play OGG files
[01:52] <dwidmann> !codecs | ubuntu
[01:52] <ubotu> ubuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:52] <voorhees86> my kopete not work very well
[01:52] <Minataku> Which is completely different from sound not working at all
[01:52] <HaSH> !iso
[01:52] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[01:52] <ubuntu> i told you all that in the beginning :/
[01:53] <Yorokobi> voorhees86, alternatives for MSN : amsn, gaim, psi, kopete, possibly others
[01:53] <Minataku> Then why did you complain that your audio wasn't working at all?
[01:53] <ubuntu> how do i install codecs
[01:53] <ubuntu> from konsole?
[01:53] <Alonea> ubuntu: when you try to play an MP3 on amarok it should say something about installing mp3 support. just let it do its thing and you will be fine.
[01:53] <Moby_Dick> ubuntu what installer are you using, synaptic, kynaptic or adept?
[01:53] <hyuma> ubuntu with apt-get
[01:53] <vvv> does anyone know what i need to play a movie as my background?
[01:53] <ubuntu> it doesnt do that Alonea orelse i woudlnt have been here
[01:53] <hyuma> vvv what?
[01:53] <voorhees86> yeah i know , but im asking what is the best?
[01:54] <dwidmann> voorhees86: that's a matter of opinion
[01:54] <hyuma> voorhees86: gaim
[01:54] <mrand> hyuma: vvv wants his X wallpaper to be the output of mplayer
[01:54] <mrdlouisd> i registered moby thats why my name changed
[01:54] <vit_> alguien que hable espaol!!!
[01:54] <mrdlouisd> thanks for the help
[01:54] <Moby_Dick> ubuntu what package manager are you using?
[01:54] <vvv> yeah thats what  i want mrand
[01:54] <vvv> do you know the name of a program that could do that?
[01:54] <Alonea> ubuntu: ok, so then you are missing libraries. lets see Mplayer has a bunch of binaries. dunno if the package in adept installs those too as I have always done it myself
[01:54] <ubuntu> whats the command to install the codes for mp3: sudo apt-get .... ???
[01:54] <hyuma> do you want take a video capture of your desktop, vvv?
[01:55] <ubuntu> this is very complex
[01:55] <ubuntu> for me
[01:55] <mrand> hyuma: he wants his wallpaper to be a movie
[01:55] <ubuntu> i dont understand
[01:55] <dwidmann> ubuntu: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[01:55] <Moby_Dick> ubuntu, you need to know the codec name, unless you tell me what package manager you are using
[01:55] <Alonea> !adept
[01:55] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[01:55] <ubuntu> ok ty
[01:55] <vvv> i want to make my desktop run movies instead of the movie player
[01:55] <ubuntu> its too much information
[01:55] <hyuma> vvv why?
[01:55] <Hirvinen> !mp3 | ubuntu
[01:55] <ubotu> ubuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:56] <ubuntu> libxinel already is the lastest version it says dwidmann
[01:56] <Alonea> ubuntu: linux can be a bit dazzling at first, but you got to be patient. I know its frustrating. I was frustrated at first too.
[01:56] <dwidmann> ubuntu: what program are you using to (attempt to) play the mp3s?
[01:56] <ubuntu> i dont want much just sound is so basic
[01:56] <Yorokobi> dwidmann, ubuntu is using amarok
[01:56] <Moby_Dick> ubuntu, go to the kde menu then, go to system, do you have synaptic or kynaptic in the list?
[01:57] <vvv> hyuma i dual screen and i see alot of people doing it
[01:57] <ubuntu> i dont even know if mp3 codecs is causing it its just that\
[01:57] <mrand> vvv: even if there was a way to do it, it wouldn't work with transparent applications, so the only way you'd be able to see the movie is if you weren't running any programs, but then you'd have your icons in the way of the movie.  X.Org is not windows 95
[01:57] <dwidmann> Yorokobi: wouldn't happen to know if he's running dapper or edgy would you?
[01:57] <ubuntu> i dont hear audio in amarok
[01:57] <Minataku> ubuntu: Perhaps Amarok isn't configured correctly
[01:57] <dwidmann> ubuntu: it's not muted or something silly like that is it?
[01:57] <Yorokobi> 2.6 kernel so edgy or feisty
[01:57] <Hirvinen> ubuntu: Have you followed these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[01:57] <ubuntu> no its not muted both master and pcm slides are in the green
[01:57] <Alonea> ubuntu: mp3 codec isn't installed by default I dont think
[01:57] <dwidmann> Yorokobi: 2.6 kernel would also include breezy hoary and warty
[01:57] <ubuntu> in mixer
[01:58] <Yorokobi> *shrug*
[01:58] <hyuma> vvv :O
[01:58] <vvv> i see mrand
[01:58] <vit_> holas!!!!
[01:58] <dwidmann>  If it's pre-edgy, ubuntu could possibly be using the GStreamer engine instead of the Xine engine, especially in a GNOME setup
[01:58] <Yorokobi> vvv, vlc supports using the desktop as a movie player
[01:59] <vvv> ah i will download that
[01:59] <hyuma> vvv maybe VLC do it?
[01:59] <mrand> Yorokobi: but does it work with transparent applications too?
[01:59] <vvv> ah hyuma i just want to be able to spin my cube and look at movies on every side while its spinning. just for fun
[01:59] <Alonea> ubuntu: I think the packaged you need is libxine-extracodecs
[01:59] <vvv> i will download vlc through add/remove
[01:59] <hyuma> vvv do you have beryl so?
[01:59] <vvv> but i am having one problem with beryl.. i can't seem to add different wallpapers to different sides of the cube
[01:59] <Yorokobi> mrand ... um, keep the desktop clear of apps ? :)
[01:59] <Yorokobi> or use Beryl
[02:00] <mrand> :-P
[02:00] <Moby_Dick> What about the repositories, he probably doesn't have his sources.list file setup to get restricted files
[02:00] <vvv> i see in general  options, desktop background desktop manager support viewports
[02:00] <vvv> when i turn that on.. my other desktops are transparent
[02:00] <Yorokobi> KDE does not support viewports (very well)
[02:00] <vvv> ah i see
[02:00] <Yorokobi> You end up with one desktop via KDE and 4+ viewports with beryl
[02:01] <hyuma> hey anyone knows audio program like adobe audition ?
[02:01] <dwidmann> ubuntu, can you check something for me? in amarok go to settings -> configure amarok -> engine ->. What engine is selected?
[02:02] <vvv> i can't reply to you hyuma in private
[02:02] <hyuma> ok vvv
[02:02] <hawk_> hello eveyone nice to see you all
[02:02] <dwidmann> Hi hawk_
[02:02] <hyuma> !audition
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audition - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <hyuma> !audio editor
[02:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audio editor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:02] <dwidmann> hyuma: what does adobe audition do . .. I've never used it
[02:03] <hyuma> audition is for mixing audio
[02:03] <dwidmann> The only audio editing program I've heard about that gets any hype in FOSS-land is audacity
[02:03] <hawk_> anyone know of a good fps or stradigy game for linux with or with out wine
[02:03] <hyuma> it's advanced audio editor audition
[02:03] <dwidmann> !audacity | hyuma
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audacity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <Yorokobi> hawk_, any of the Quake games
[02:03] <vvv> so basically as long as i use beryl i'm limited to one wallpaper on my desktop for every side of the cube?
[02:04] <hyuma> !audacity
[02:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about audacity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <dwidmann> !info audicity
[02:04] <dwidmann> gah,
[02:04] <ubotu> Package audicity does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[02:04] <Yorokobi> vvv, oh sure, make me move to my desktop so I can use beryl :)
[02:04] <hawk_> Yorokobi: thanks, dos that work in native linux or wine
[02:04] <dwidmann> !info audacity
[02:04] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1850 kB, installed size 5444 kB
[02:04] <hyuma> mmm
[02:04] <dwidmann> there we go
[02:04] <Yorokobi> hawk_, both. But they work better with the linux native binaries
[02:05] <hyuma> dwidmann: I try it now and i tell you if it's good
[02:05] <hawk_> Yorokobi ok thanks for your help, do you know where i can get a how to on seting it up native
[02:05] <dwidmann> The Doom games and UT games work also hawk_
[02:05] <vvv> yoro =)
[02:06] <vvv> ah, i'm such a linux newb i don't even know how to get that matrix wallpaper =(**
[02:06] <dwidmann> hawk_: at any rate, you have to buy the game(s) (it's not free, should be relatively cheap), as you'll be needing a license number or something of that nature
[02:06] <hyuma> dwidmann: no, audacity is very poor program, I need something more professional
[02:06] <Chemicalvamp> i think i broke adept! :((
[02:06] <mrand> hyuma: lol
[02:06] <NightBird> question, can I resize my ntfs partition in the live cd so that I can make space to install kubuntu?
[02:07] <dwidmann> hyuma, that's the only one I k now of, sorry :(
[02:07] <mrand> hyuma: that is an april fools joke??
[02:07] <pagansmind> www.ardour.org daw
[02:07] <hyuma> no mrand
[02:07] <hyuma> wait I show you what I'm looking for
[02:07] <pagansmind> rosegarden i like
[02:07] <Moby_Dick> I am trying to install Qt from the source files on their website, does anybody think this could cause conflicts with my current Qt installation?
[02:07] <hitmanWilly> hyuma: try mixx
[02:08] <dwidmann> Moby_Dick: no, not if you install them somewhere "safe", put them somewhere like /opt/ and th ey won't interfere with anything
[02:08] <vvv> i don't think my sound will ever work well in linux.. only my 2 front speakers work its so annoying
[02:08] <hawk_> dwidmann: have the game quake 1,2 and doom 95 now i just need to find them
[02:09] <hyuma> ok hitmanWilly
[02:09] <Yorokobi> hawk_, check the repositories (quake, q2, q3a are there) but you need the game CD/DVD as well
[02:09] <Moby_Dick> I am installing them so I can install k3b 1.0, so when I configure k3b how do I find the new Qt.
[02:09] <hyuma> http://www.softmag.no/bilder/adobe_audition_s3.jpg
[02:09] <hyuma> this is adobe audition
[02:10] <calamari> how do I set the default web browser to firefox?
[02:11] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi: could it be that i have the legacy GPU? my card is BFG nVidia GeForce 7950 GT OC
[02:11] <hawk_> Yorokobi: thanks
[02:11] <Yorokobi> calamari, Kmenu -> System Settings -> Default Applications
[02:11] <Chemicalvamp> yup i broke it... please look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13472/
[02:11] <mrand> hyuma: if audacity does not have a feature you want, there may be a plug-in that provides it.
[02:11] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, a 7950 is not legacy
[02:11] <dwidmann> Sesshoumaru: that's no legacy GPU! that things still very fresh
[02:11] <calamari> Yorokobi: thanks a lot!
[02:11] <pagansmind> http://linux-sound.org/
[02:12] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi: LOL
[02:12] <hyuma> mrand: I don't think that audacity will have a plugin that will load video on multitrack mode with audio to sync both
[02:12] <pagansmind> cinderella
[02:12] <dwidmann> The latest one that support was pullef ro in the main driver is the GeForce4 GPUs
[02:12] <Minataku> Yeah, only ATI cards are "legacy" in Linux after 6 months, not nVidia cards
[02:12] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi: i didn't know that legacy meant "old"
[02:12] <leiar> cinelerra
[02:13] <Yorokobi> heh
[02:13] <Chemicalvamp> i messed it up huh?
[02:13] <pagansmind> for video editing
[02:13] <hawk_> ok what do i do after i have installed the packege
[02:13] <dik> ,     ,   ,      ?=)
[02:13] <leiar> pagansmind: cinerella
[02:13] <Yorokobi> Okay, who remembers the ubotu command to bring up the adept fix ?
[02:13] <Yorokobi> !ru | dik
[02:13] <ubotu> dik:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[02:14] <dik> !ru
[02:14] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[02:14] <vvv> how do i bring my sound icon back to to the system tray?
[02:14] <Chemicalvamp> i know what i did.. umm "deb [WWW]  http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/edgy-dist-upgrade-kde356/" is on line 1
[02:14] <Sesshoumaru> i swear.. i have the worst compatible computer for linux
[02:14] <dwidmann> when it comes to video editing, it's looking like Kdenlive has a ton of potential
[02:14] <Yorokobi> vvv, open kmix
[02:14] <vvv> ah ty
[02:15] <Chemicalvamp> and tis is the error E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[02:15] <avvalon>  Can someone tell me the fastest file transfer from Ubuntu to Windows from a remote Ubuntu box?
[02:15] <ubuntu> http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kubuntuandvistamf2.jpg
[02:15] <vvv> i enabled surround center and side sound. and still only front sound works
[02:15] <Chemicalvamp> so if i delete line 1 im all good again right?
[02:15] <mrand> dik: `/j #ubuntu-ru`
[02:15] <leiar> dwidmann: what about cinerella? I'm about to pick out a programme to use on my pupils. I thought cinerella was the one..
[02:15] <Yorokobi> Chemicalvamp, what does the first line look like ?
[02:16] <dwidmann> thought its name was cinelerra .... I couldn't get it to compile last I tried ...
[02:16] <compilerwriter> I am getting a gtk warning about can't open a terminal on  "<IP_ADDRESS>:0.0".  Am I correct in believing that this is because my box is headless and I am having an xsession via XDCMP?
[02:16] <Chemicalvamp> well in the first field "deb" second is "http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/edgy-dist-upgrade-kde356/" and i put edgy in distro field
[02:16] <vvv> is thier a link that would help me get my sound card working correctly
[02:17] <avvalon> Oh and security isn't important for my file transfer
[02:17] <soulrider> vv theres probably something on the forums, have you ever been there?
[02:17] <dwidmann> vvv: go into kmix and turn on "duplicate front"
[02:17] <soulrider> theres tons of help
[02:17] <leiar> dwidmann: Cinerella is a princess cinelerra is a video editing programme..
[02:17] <vvv> i have tried findins stuff on ubuntu forums but i couldn't find anything that helped me
[02:17] <compilerwriter> That and I am getting a warning about being unable to find X libraries.
[02:17] <vvv> most of the stuff i find is very outdated
[02:18] <soulrider> aww vv, that sucks
[02:18] <Yorokobi> Chemicalvamp, it should be deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356 edgy main
[02:18] <dwidmann> leiar: and that means I was right? Hurray
[02:18] <vvv> yeah the two speakers tha work work nicely but only those 2 work =(
[02:18] <Chemicalvamp> i sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:18] <Yorokobi> avvalon, does the remote ubuntu box have SSH server?
[02:18] <dwidmann> vvv: did you try turning on the duplicate front switch in kmix?
[02:19] <avvalon> Yorokobi, yes but it's INCREDIBLY slow even on a cable connection on that end and a 3MB DSL connection on this end
[02:19] <leiar> dwidmann: did I say cinerella? Well, it's late in Norway. I'd better go to bed..
[02:19] <dwidmann> night then leiar
[02:19] <vvv> dwid is that the green light close to the top?
[02:19] <dwidmann> yeah
[02:19] <Yorokobi> vvv, sometimes you have to use alsamixer to enable the other channels
[02:19] <dwidmann> one of many
[02:19] <leiar> night
[02:20] <Yorokobi> avvalon, you could use scp or sftp (ssh ftp)
[02:20] <vvv> yeah thats the only one that works it was enabled by default, then i turned on the other ones surround, center, side
[02:20] <Chemicalvamp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13476/ is my sorces.list
[02:20] <vvv> but i stil only get sound through my front
[02:20] <Yorokobi> avvalon, the slowness is due to <1MB upstream on the remote end if it is using cable
[02:20] <avvalon> Arg.. that would explain the slow speed.
[02:20] <avvalon> Does that apply to any kind of transfer?
[02:21] <Yorokobi> It applies to most cable/dsl connections
[02:21] <Chemicalvamp> ok now adept will load
[02:21] <vvv> what does mux do? its at 0
[02:21] <avvalon> So even setting my particular directory as an FTP server isn't going to fix it?
[02:21] <Yorokobi> Eg. I have a 7MB down and 1MB up with my DSL (faster than the cable comcast offers in my area) :)
[02:22] <Yorokobi> avvalon, nothing is going to change it if the remote is on cable ... except getting a T1 or better
[02:22] <avvalon> LOL, alright thanks Yorokobi.. I guess I'm going to be here awhile on my 4 gig directory
[02:23] <Yorokobi> haha, yes, you will
[02:23] <vvv> are their any settings i have off that i should have on or the other way around?
[02:23] <Chemicalvamp> Yorokobi: i did fetch update, but there are no upgrades like https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade says there should
[02:23] <Yorokobi> Chemicalvamp, what exactly are you trying to do?
[02:24] <Yorokobi> upgrade to feisty or upgrade KDE to 3.5.6 ?
[02:24] <Chemicalvamp> update my edgy 6.10 to 7.04
[02:25] <Yorokobi> Chemicalvamp, deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-proposed main
[02:25] <Yorokobi> That should be the first line of the sources.list
[02:25] <N6REJ> anyone know how to "map" a smb folder so it always shows up mounted on the desktop?
[02:25] <soulrider> hey N6REJ, i got no idea
[02:25] <N6REJ> I wnat k3b to always store my mp3's on the server
[02:25] <N6REJ> hey soul
[02:26] <Sesshoumaru> does anyone know where to get a windows font pack? (for wine)
[02:26] <Yorokobi> N6REJ, add the mount + options to /etc/fstab
[02:26] <compilerwriter> How would one go about finding out where there X Libraries are kept?
[02:26] <N6REJ> Yorokobi: explain more pleasE?
[02:26] <soulrider> fstab works with smb shares ?
[02:26] <Yorokobi> !fstab
[02:26] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[02:26] <N6REJ> Yorokobi: these are smb shares
[02:26] <soulrider> compilerwriter: are you missing libraries ?
[02:26] <Yorokobi> Should work ... test it and see
[02:27] <N6REJ> weird, ok.
[02:27] <Chemicalvamp> Yorokobi: still no updates (cant do full upgrade)
[02:27] <Yorokobi> ahh maybe not
[02:27] <hitmanWilly> mount it as type samba
[02:27] <compilerwriter> No soulrider I don't think I am missing them.
[02:27] <N6REJ> hitmanWilly: how?
[02:27] <soulrider> ok compilerwriter
[02:27] <philphoto> ok folks, I need someone with some powerful magic.
[02:27] <N6REJ> hitmanWilly: smbclient shows them fine.
[02:28] <compilerwriter> soulrider I have come across a configure that can't find them.
[02:28] <N6REJ> philphoto: you change your nick again?
[02:28] <soulrider> compilerwriter: i guess if you know the name of one fo them you can just do a "locate <name>" and see where they are
[02:28] <philphoto> N6REJ:  I'm formerly philfo
[02:28] <Yorokobi> N6REJ, it should work if the network is started before the disks/partitions are mounted
[02:28] <soulrider> compilerwriter: maybe you just dont have them installed
[02:28] <philphoto> yeah, did another install.  clean, on a clean drive
[02:28] <N6REJ> lol figures.
[02:28] <soulrider> try to apt-get install them
[02:28] <hitmanWilly> in /etc/fstab where you normally put the filesystem type, just put samba
[02:28] <N6REJ> philphoto: cool, btw fiesty is great
[02:28] <philphoto> i did a bad thing
[02:28] <Yorokobi> Chemicalvamp, *shrug*
[02:29] <soulrider> anyone here tried arch linux ?
[02:29] <philphoto> I loaded feisty & it was buggy as hell
[02:29] <N6REJ> hitmanWilly: ok, so if I have a folder on the server named /home/mp3 the I put that in /etc/fstab?
[02:29] <icetbr> hello, is it possible to remove the Actions entry from kmenu?
[02:29] <N6REJ> hitman the servers name is "driftwood"
[02:29] <compilerwriter> I did apt-get install xlibs-dev and the others already.
[02:29] <N6REJ> philphoto: no way, it solved all my problems :D
[02:29] <philphoto> I tried to load up winxp on my old 40GB drive, but wasn't aware that location was where my master boot record was.
[02:29] <Yorokobi> Chemicalvamp, I am the type to glance over instructions so I missed a key part of the upgrade when I tried it (both times :) ), are you following those instructions exactly?
[02:30] <N6REJ> philphoto: lol easy fix.
[02:30] <philphoto> so now I'm talking with you all from the live CD
[02:30] <philphoto> and need a walk thru
[02:30] <philphoto> if that's possible.
[02:30] <N6REJ> !grub | philphoto
[02:30] <ubotu> philphoto: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:30] <philphoto> thanks, back in a sec
[02:30] <soulrider> philphoto: whata re you having trouble doing ? maybe i can help
[02:30] <Chemicalvamp> In Adept Manager go to Manage Repositories and enable edgy-proposed.. what is this one?
[02:31] <philphoto> read my previous msg's
[02:31] <Yorokobi> Chemicalvamp, it should be feisty-proposed
[02:31] <N6REJ> soulrider: he lost linux grub boot record because he installed xp after nix lol
[02:31] <Yorokobi> I think ... let me checj
[02:31] <soulrider> Chemicalvamp: you upgrading ?
[02:31] <Chemicalvamp>  have edgy
[02:31] <N6REJ> btdt
[02:31] <compilerwriter> soulrider so I should apt-get install what pray tell.
[02:31] <Yorokobi> check
[02:31] <philphoto> well, the best way to learn is to fail
[02:31] <Chemicalvamp> right now i have edgy 6.10 fully upgraded
[02:31] <dwidmann> philphoto: at what point did you load feisty? Doesn't seem too buggy right now :3
[02:31] <N6REJ> philphoto: yep, you may have to do it a couple of times to get it right phil
[02:31] <philphoto> not so much fail, but learn how to pull yourself out of the bad situations
[02:31] <soulrider> philphoto: recovering grub is rather easy, read hte guide, but if you dont understand something just ask us
[02:32] <philphoto> ok, give me a minute
[02:32] <Yorokobi> Chemicalvamp, I'm wrong. edgy-proposed is correct
[02:32] <philphoto> tehn I'll talk with you about my feisty beef
[02:32] <dwidmann> philphoto: more specifically, to pull yourself out of the bad situations without reinstalling
[02:32] <philphoto> ha ha ha ha, I just realized what I said....
[02:32] <philphoto> exactly
[02:32] <vvv> anyone here happen to use a dell and a problem with audio?
[02:33] <dwidmann> vvv: my little brothers computer (formerly mine) had issues with audio ... it was some for integrated sound, used the intel8x0 driver
[02:33] <Chemicalvamp> no we're BOTH wrong.. look close it says "/"
[02:33] <hitmanWilly> its //<windows box name>/<shared folder name> <mount point> smbfs
[02:33] <dwidmann> what channel controlled what was really messy
[02:33] <Chemicalvamp> for amd64
[02:34] <vvv> i have intergrated sound also sigmatel though.. what did you do to fix it dwid?
[02:34] <Yorokobi> 64 ... oooooh. Small detail, that.
[02:34] <dwidmann> vvv: ran my head through a wall, built a new computer
[02:34] <philphoto> actually, I need to change the first IDE master in my BIOS if possible.  OR install GRUB on my drive where this build of Kubuntu is loaded
[02:34] <Chemicalvamp> how was http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kubuntuandvistamf2.jpg this done
[02:34] <vvv> haha, i figured i might as well just buy a new audio card
[02:35] <vvv> since i'm running off intergrated at the moment anyways
[02:35] <dwidmann> vvv: I'd recommend this as the least stressful thing to do
[02:35] <Yorokobi> okay Chemicalvamp, so you have "deb http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/edgy-dist-upgrade-kde356/ ./" (notice the ./) ??
[02:35] <Chemicalvamp> yeah im already upgrading now
[02:36] <Yorokobi> so ... its working ?
[02:36] <vvv> its been killing me. thats what i'll do then.. its the only reason i go back to windows to watch movies and so on
[02:36] <dwidmann> Yorokobi: I can remember three things about that dist-upgrade process that really annoyed me :(
[02:36] <xnitex> okay i'm trying to update kde 3.5.5 to 3.5.6
[02:37] <xnitex> and i am at the  announcement page and i copy and paste deb with the link to it in terminal and it gives me a bash: deb: command not found return?
[02:37] <xnitex> >.<
[02:37] <xnitex> help?
[02:37] <Yorokobi> dwidmann, me too. Postfix, sasl2-bin, and adept being a poor replacement for dselect :)
[02:37] <Yorokobi> oh yeah, beryl
[02:38] <dwidmann> 1) You upgrade all of kde (150mb? ...) so you can upgrade everything again, woohoo 2) it runs apt-get update not once (ideal), not twice (gah), but three times!! 3) when it runs into problems it doesn't let you know, and when it reboots with those problems, you can run into things like say, kernel panics and other fun like I did :( Took me hours to fix that ....
[02:38] <Yorokobi> ouch, dwidmann. Your pain makes mine look like a carpet burn
[02:38] <philphoto> in konsole at the grub prompt I show grub file in two locations: hd1,0  and hd2,0
[02:39] <philphoto> any opinions on which I use?
[02:39] <jhutchins> vvv: Did you try that troubleshooting page?  Did anything there help?
[02:39] <dwidmann> Yorokobi: and I waited a week for the upgrades to download before I did it, that's what made it burn worse :(
[02:39] <jhutchins> philphoto: How did you arrive at this dual installation?
[02:40] <philphoto> I got greedy
[02:40] <jhutchins> philphoto: Doesn't seem like a very common problem, only solution I can imagine is to try each one and see what they do.
[02:40] <jhutchins> philphoto: Where is your kubuntu install?
[02:41] <philphoto> the one I've put the most development into is on /sdb
[02:41] <Yorokobi> fdisk, format, re-instaaaall, doo-dah, doo-dah
[02:41] <jhutchins> philphoto: Which is mostlikely hd2
[02:41] <philphoto> gotcha.
[02:42] <philphoto> worst case scenario, I boot up here again & switch.
[02:42] <jhutchins> philphoto: Yep.
[02:42] <philphoto> thanks, all
[02:43] <philphoto> now, my hd2 is not 1st IDE master though which is where the master boot record WAS before WinXP formatted then didn't complete the install.
[02:43] <pollyo> Do they have anything that will allow firefox to run activex?
[02:43] <philphoto> is there going to be a problem with that?
[02:43] <jhutchins> pollyo: Not that I know of.
[02:43] <hitmanWilly> pollyo, why would u want to do that?
[02:44] <Chemicalvamp> Yorokobi: !source-o-matic is what i needed for the adept fix
[02:44] <jhutchins> pollyo: That's a feature, by the way.
[02:44] <jhutchins> pollyo: Makes it much more secure.
[02:44] <Yorokobi> jhutchins, noscript ?
[02:44] <Yorokobi> :)
[02:44] <Yorokobi> pollyo, this is probably as close to getting activex as you can get: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[02:45] <pollyo> jhutchins: I wanted it for my sister.  She uses walgreens to do photos and on windows she was able to use an activex feature.
[02:45] <jhutchins> xnitex: Right, deb is not a comand.  What are you working from?
[02:45] <pollyo> Yorokobi: Yes.  I have that installed but the photos do not come up with the activex photo uploader that it installs.
[02:45] <xnitex> ubuntu edgy on kde session
[02:46] <jhutchins> pollyo: Possibly gimp or picassa would please her.
[02:46] <xnitex> i'm just did a request install on kubuntu-desktop
[02:46] <jhutchins> xnitex: I mean what instructions?
[02:46] <hitmanWilly> activex = please come crack my computer
[02:46] <pollyo> jhutchins: She is happy with the applications on the linux just not the web setup on walgreens without the activex.
[02:46] <xnitex> the Http://wiki.kubuntu.org
[02:47] <pollyo> hitmanWilly: They have an option to only allow activex from sites you trust.
[02:47] <Yorokobi> javascript = pdf = jpg = activex = make me vulnerable
[02:47] <Chemicalvamp> !botsnack
[02:47] <ubotu> Yum!
[02:47] <jhutchins> xnitex: c'mon, man, which page?
[02:47] <hitmanWilly> pollyo: until someone gets you with a phishing site
[02:48] <xnitex> http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[02:48] <jhutchins> xnitex: Basically you just add the 3.5.6 repo and do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade.
[02:48] <pollyo> hitmanWilly: PHishing sites would they also get someone downloading a debian package?
[02:48] <hitmanWilly> pollyo: true...
[02:48] <xnitex> and i've also been having problems installing and compiling themes and such from http://kde-look.org
[02:48] <xnitex> but i'll get on to that after this is finished
[02:49] <philphoto> ok, GRUB has been placed somewhere that BIOS will see it.  wish me luck.  see   you all in a few
[02:50] <vvv_> i need to add something to  /etc/modprobe.d/options, but it says i don't have premission
[02:50] <vvv_> how do i get premission?
[02:50] <Yorokobi> prefix the command with sudo
[02:50] <vvv_> sudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/options
[02:50] <vvv_> like that?
[02:50] <Yorokobi> yep
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> no..."kdesu"
[02:50] <hitmanWilly> pollyo: but with a deb pkg, you have to actively install it whereas with activex all you would have to do is agree to run it
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> instead of sudo
[02:50] <vvv_> kdesu?
[02:50] <vvv_> ok i'll try that
[02:50] <Yorokobi> dochidemo
[02:51] <Yorokobi> both work
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> no..... not with x programs..
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> *X and KDE
[02:51] <xnitex> ok i did what you said after adding the respositories from the kubuntudisupgrade wiki page
[02:51] <Yorokobi> nosrednaekim, try it: sudo kate /something
[02:51] <Yorokobi> it works fine
[02:52] <Yorokobi> ... so long as you do it from konsole :)
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> hmm... you are right...I apologize...most KDE apps don't wok that way
[02:52] <xnitex> and during the dist upgrade preparing the upgrade it came back with an error during update and i dont understand why i'm using wifi and right next to the router but it gave me a failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[02:52] <oicu812> went from suse 10.1 to ubuntu 6.1 today
[02:53] <vvv_> kdesu worked for me.. i'm sure the other one would too =) gonna restart and see if it helped
[02:53] <Chemicalvamp> oicu812, wich do you now preffer?
[02:53] <xnitex> :[
[02:53] <Chemicalvamp> !ping
[02:53] <ubotu> pong
[02:53] <Yorokobi> !fortune
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fortune - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:54] <oicu812> ubuntu
[02:54] <oicu812> finally i dont have to tar
[02:54] <oicu812> and compile
[02:54] <Chemicalvamp> lol i still like !botsnack most
[02:54] <oicu812> and have it not work
[02:54] <peanutb> oicu812, i esecially hated RPMs
[02:54] <hitmanWilly> oicu812, kinda sux when ur distro's in bed with the enemy, too
[02:54] <oicu812> i got redhat rps to work though
[02:54] <oicu812> oh jah enemy eh
[02:55] <pollyo> ! reaktivate
[02:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reaktivate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <oicu812> i thought that i had erased my back -up partition but i didnt even screw that up
[02:56] <oicu812> still got all my bsg episodes
[02:58] <forham> hi
[02:58] <forham> Yorokobi,
[02:58] <forham> you here
[02:58] <forham> Chemicalvamp,
[02:58] <Yorokobi> scary
[02:58] <Chemicalvamp> uh huh
[02:58] <forham> thanks for your help
[02:58] <forham> http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kubuntuvistaxglry1.jpg
[02:59] <forham> thats a screenshot
[02:59] <forham> of me in here :)
[02:59] <Yorokobi> Cool
[02:59] <Chemicalvamp> how is that done? lol
[02:59] <forham> ;P
[02:59] <forham> magic
[03:00] <Chemicalvamp> !magic
[03:00] <NightBird> whoa
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about magic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <NightBird> so is that one screen a copy of vmware running full screen with vista installed on it?
[03:00] <Chemicalvamp> ohh vmware
[03:00] <Chemicalvamp> !vmware
[03:00] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[03:01] <NightBird> or one of the other accelerations?
[03:01] <NightBird> er... not accelerations, but virtual machines
[03:01] <azmodean> exit
[03:02] <forham> NightBird, nice try but that doesnt explain the rotating cube huh :)
[03:02] <NightBird> forham: that's easy
[03:03] <NightBird> that would be beryl
[03:03] <pollyo> Anyone familiar with compiz?
[03:03] <forham> not when the host os is vista :)
[03:03] <NightBird> pollyo: I know of it.... but the only experience i have is with beryl which is a branch of it
[03:04] <NightBird> forham: I was assuming a guest os of Vista
[03:04] <pollyo> NighBird: Thanks.
[03:04] <forham> kubuntu yes
[03:04] <nosrednaekim> wait a sec... there was just some OSS project to port the rotating cube to vista
[03:04] <forham> kubunti as guest
[03:04] <azmodean> I'm trying to compile and install the latest stable kernel build on kubuntu, would this be the place to ask for help, or shoud I look for a kernel-oriented channel?
[03:04] <forham> that doesnt explain the cube tho NightBird
[03:05] <NightBird> hm.... maybe xgl in cygwin?  But I think that would only affect the X windows and not regular windows programs so that's out
[03:05] <forham> lol
[03:05] <NightBird> yeah, some open source version available for windows vista/xp that duplicates the same effect
[03:05] <forham> see not see easy afterall huh ;')
[03:05] <Yorokobi> azmodean, you want to compile your own kernel ?
[03:05] <forham> its still pretty kewl ;)
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> yeah,,,
[03:06] <azmodean> well I've compiled it, but I seem to be running into an initrd issue
[03:07] <azmodean> my symptoms match an issue that seems to have come up with yaird a year or so ago, but the reccommended fixes don't do anything for me
[03:07] <forham> NightBird,  xgl is opensource :)
[03:07] <vvv> what do i do to make vlc play a movie as my x wallpaper
[03:07] <NightBird> forham: yeah, I know...
[03:07] <NightBird> forham: I also know that there is a cygwin implementation of it
[03:08] <forham> yeah but that one has issue like you said
[03:08] <NightBird> what, that it doesn't handle the windows desktop as well?
[03:08] <NightBird> of course not.... it's sitting ontop of the windows desktop as an extension
[03:09] <forham> yeah
[03:09] <NightBird> so it's some rotating cube effect for vista with kubuntu running in a virtual machine?
[03:09] <NightBird> hm...
[03:09] <forham> but stardock the company that made the vista ui is working on an xgl clone
[03:09] <NightBird> oh really
[03:09] <NightBird> I wonder if that's included in the package that I bought...
[03:09] <forham> yeah
[03:09] <forham> you are right nightbird
[03:10] <pollyo> Anyone running KVM?
[03:10] <forham> its an app that clones xgl on windows
[03:10] <forham> but not as rich of course
[03:10] <xnitex> okay how do i remove a link from the source line
[03:10] <vvv> does anyone know how to make vlc play a movie as my wallpaper?
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> pollyo: tried... it didn't work..
[03:10] <xnitex> that i put into it and now it won't let me run adept
[03:10] <xnitex> >.<
[03:10] <pollyo> nonsrednaekim: Do you run qemu/kqemu ?
[03:11] <forham> nice emo of pinching eyes z
[03:11] <forham> xnitex,
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> pollyo: I was trying...
[03:11] <NightBird> forham: what's the name?
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> didn't work (at least for botting a cd
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> *booting
[03:12] <pollyo> nosrednaekim: I've had success with the qemu/kqemu.
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> ok..
[03:12] <pollyo> nosrednaekim: This machine can not run kvm.
[03:12] <xnitex> t not as rich of course
[03:12] <xnitex> [20:10:24]  <xnitex> okay how do i remove a link from the source line
[03:12] <xnitex> [20:10:25]  <vvv> does anyone know how to make vlc play a movie as my wallpaper?
[03:12] <xnitex> [20:10:29]  <nosrednaekim> pollyo: tried... it didn't work..
[03:12] <xnitex> [20:10:30]   Signoff: ubuntu (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[03:12] <xnitex> [20:10:30]  <xnitex> that i put into it and now it won't let me run adept
[03:12] <xnitex> [20:10:33]  <xnitex> >.<
[03:12] <xnitex> [20:10:58]  <pollyo> nonsrednaekim: Do you run qemu/kqemu ?
[03:12] <xnitex> [20:11:25]  <forham> nice emo of pinching eyes z
[03:12] <xnitex> [20:11:27]  <forham> xnitex,
[03:12] <xnitex> [20:11:51]  <nosrednaekim> pollyo: I was trying...
[03:12] <xnitex> [20:11:54]   Signoff: pauljw ("Leaving")
[03:12] <xnitex> [20:11:56]  <NightBird> forham: what's the name?
[03:12] <xnitex> [20:11:59]  <nosrednaekim> didn't work (at least for botting a cd
[03:12] <xnitex> [20:12:10]  <nosrednaekim> *booting
[03:12] <xnitex> shit sorry
[03:12] <NightBird> >_>
[03:13] <xnitex> :[[[[
[03:13] <xnitex> i was trying to paste the error gyahh
[03:13] <xnitex> E: Type 'http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/edgy-dist-upgrade/' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:13] <xnitex> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[03:13] <xnitex> there?
[03:13] <NightBird> be more careful next time
[03:13] <xnitex> :[[[
[03:13] <xnitex> help?
[03:13] <intelikey> !help
[03:13] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:13] <Betzefer> any 1 knows how to put the network connection icon in the tray bar when connected ?
[03:13] <forham> the name NightBird
[03:13] <NightBird> xnitex: post your /etc/apt/sources.list in one of the paste sites
[03:13] <Betzefer> any 1 knows how to put the network connection icon in the tray bar when connected ?
[03:13] <vvv> xnitex i'm not sure what your reply was to my question
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> Betzefer: wlanassistant?
[03:14] <Betzefer> what ?
[03:14] <Betzefer> dont u know the 2 little computers in the taskbar ?
[03:15] <Betzefer> like in windows
[03:15] <Betzefer> ?
[03:15] <pollyo> nosrednaekim: You can boot from the actual CD drive or from an ISO file.
[03:15] <pollyo> nosrednaekim: Using qemu.
[03:15] <moby_python> Betzefer are you using a dial up connection?
[03:16] <intelikey> Betzefer which window ?
[03:16] <Betzefer> router
[03:16] <Betzefer> hmm the two little computers in the traybar
[03:16] <Betzefer> when u are connected to the web
[03:16] <Betzefer> just like windows
[03:16] <Betzefer> i have it on my backtrack cd
[03:16] <Betzefer> it uses kde 2
[03:16] <xnitex> okay i took out the repository entry i incorrectly typed in in kedit
[03:16] <xnitex> and its not letting me save it
[03:16] <Betzefer> as well
[03:16] <xnitex> ???
[03:17] <sandi> hi
[03:17] <intelikey> xnitex kdesu
[03:17] <sandi> does anybody knows http://www.crossmeta.com/crossmeta.html ?
[03:17] <xnitex> sorry - kedit unable to make a backup of the original file and just lets me click ok?
[03:18] <xnitex> i dont understand what u mean by kdesu?
[03:18] <intelikey> !kdesu > xnitex
[03:18] <Betzefer> no one knows how to ?
[03:19] <wolferine> Betzefer, knows what (just walked in) ?
[03:19] <Betzefer> nope
[03:19] <Betzefer> i asked a couple of minuts ago
[03:19] <Betzefer> u know the two little computers down in the taskbar ?
[03:19] <Betzefer> when u connect to the web
[03:19] <Betzefer> ?
[03:20] <Yorokobi> Betzefer, no
[03:20] <moby_python> It must be a specific program.
[03:20] <Yorokobi> I'm not familiar with that
[03:20] <Betzefer> like in windows
[03:20] <xnitex> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by an incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem?
[03:20] <wolferine> Betzefer, in windows or ubuntu/kubuntu ?
[03:20] <intelikey> wolferine he's wanting to minimize the connection app to the taskbar
[03:20] <Betzefer> kubuntu
[03:20] <wolferine> Betzefer, what about it?
[03:20] <Betzefer> how do i make it to apper
[03:20] <Betzefer> ?
[03:21] <Betzefer> cause i dont have it now
[03:21] <wolferine> Betzefer, why do you want it?
[03:21] <Betzefer> i have it when i use my kse backtrack cd
[03:21] <Betzefer> i like it
[03:21] <wolferine> Betzefer, u wireless?
[03:21] <Betzefer> instead of doing ifconfig
[03:21] <wolferine> Betzefer, u wireless?
[03:21] <xnitex> ok i just took out the line and it loaded up
[03:21] <Betzefer> nope
[03:21] <wolferine> hmm
[03:21] <Betzefer> lan
[03:21] <moby_python> try running kppp
[03:21] <xnitex> but when i try to upgrade the distro it gives me an error
[03:21] <wolferine> well, you can add a icon in your taskbar I think
[03:21] <wolferine> that will monitor your network
[03:22] <wolferine> right click the area, then see if you can add
[03:22] <wolferine> if you want something more advanced, there is lots out there
[03:22] <Betzefer> i donsent have an option that talks about networks
[03:22] <xnitex> an error during update menu pops up after it offers me to upgrade the distro
[03:22] <xnitex> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[03:22] <Betzefer> like what ?
[03:22] <xnitex> ??? :[[[
[03:22] <wolferine> Betzefer, on the app bar, or at the end?
[03:23] <wolferine> well, I use gDesklets, cause I have ubuntu
[03:23] <Betzefer> next 2 the clock
[03:23] <wolferine> but I am sure it will work in KDE as well
[03:23] <Betzefer> whats that ?
[03:23] <xnitex> help?
[03:23] <wolferine> google it man :)
[03:23] <xnitex> plz?
[03:23] <moby_python> Betzefer do you have kppp in your kmenu > internet> kppp?
[03:23] <wolferine> xnitex, one at a time please
[03:24] <Betzefer> ya
[03:24] <wolferine> Betzefer, its just not worth waste time on that one little thing, if you want more, google gDEsktlets
[03:24] <wolferine> its cool
[03:24] <moby_python> have you tried running that?
[03:24] <wolferine> not like Beryl cool, but its nice
[03:24] <Betzefer> that would help me ?
[03:24] <wolferine> xnitex, so you need to edit your sources.list
[03:24] <xnitex> no i'm past that part
[03:24] <wolferine> well, you need to edit it again
[03:25] <xnitex> okay with what and for?
[03:25] <wolferine> take out the us in us.archive
[03:25] <wolferine> get it from a different site
[03:25] <wolferine> or wait a day or two
[03:25] <xnitex> in every entry?
[03:25] <wolferine> just the one that matches the error
[03:26] <xnitex> and i got it from the wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[03:26] <xnitex> ?
[03:26] <xnitex> i've already passed that part
[03:26] <xnitex> i'm on the gzip error part?
[03:26] <xnitex> :[
[03:26] <wolferine> get it from a different site...
[03:26] <xnitex> yeah like my n00b ass knows where to get a diff site when thats from the official site
[03:27] <xnitex> :[
[03:27] <wolferine> i already told you
[03:27] <xnitex> a different site is what u told me
[03:27] <wolferine> take out the us
[03:28] <xnitex> in every repo entry in the list?
[03:28] <xnitex> :O
[03:28] <wolferine> just the ONE that gave the error
[03:28] <wolferine> i hate repeating myself
[03:28] <xnitex> dude okay you're still on my first prob
[03:28] <xnitex> and you aren't listening to me
[03:28] <wolferine> you should read what I wrote
[03:28] <xnitex> i finished that
[03:28] <xnitex> perhaps you should listen to what i write
[03:28] <wolferine> you tried another sire?
[03:28] <wolferine> site*
[03:28] <xnitex> no i took out the bad entry
[03:28] <intelikey> xnitex perhaps you should.
[03:28] <xnitex> from the jriddel one
[03:28] <wolferine> good luck
[03:29] <xnitex> i load adept
[03:29] <Yorokobi> xnitex, are you using Kubuntu 64 ?
[03:29] <xnitex> it runs now
[03:29] <xnitex> i am using edgy
[03:29] <xnitex> ubuntu
[03:29] <xnitex> with kde 3.5.5 running
[03:29] <xnitex> using adept and i do fetch updates
[03:29] <Yorokobi> why are you using the jriddel repo?
[03:29] <philfo1> oh goodness.
[03:29] <xnitex> i'm not i took it out
[03:29] <BluesKaj> I have no fglrx drivers on the system...they were wiped off ...need to reinstall ...tried to go back to an earlier date xserver-xorg but no luck ...any ideas ?
[03:29] <xnitex> after i do fetch updates it brings up upgrade wizard
[03:30] <xnitex> a new version of kubuntu is available click next if you wish to upgrade, and i do so
[03:30] <wolferine> ah, I think I understand you now
[03:30] <wolferine> but you still dont have to remove the entire line
[03:30] <xnitex> get to downloading and verying the upgrade took that works
[03:30] <philfo1> ok, I happened to get most of this back up & running, BUT I'm not on the install or hd that I want to be.
[03:30] <wolferine> and you werent clear on what EXACTLY the issue was
[03:30] <Yorokobi> BluesKaj, synaptic has a roll-back option you could try
[03:30] <xnitex> click finish to close adept package manager
[03:30] <xnitex> distrobution upgrade pops up
[03:30] <xnitex> updating kubuntu to 7.04
[03:31] <BluesKaj> no way to get to X ...I'm on TTY , Yorokobi
[03:31] <xnitex> on the preparing upgrade part when its fetching everything
[03:31] <xnitex> it comes up with an error
[03:31] <xnitex> a problem occured during the update, this is usually some sort of network problem, please check your network connection and retry
[03:31] <Chemicalvamp> same fetching file 115 of 855 at 50kb/s 5 hours remaining
[03:31] <xnitex> and i have done that<PHONE_NUMBER>90239023902390239 times already
[03:31] <xnitex> and i'm on it right now, so i dont see the problem being there
[03:31] <Yorokobi> BluesKaj, do you want to get the fglrx drivers or roll-back X or both?
[03:32] <xnitex> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) is what pops up
[03:32] <intelikey> !feisty | xnitex
[03:32] <ubotu> xnitex: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:32] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi: i got the resolution fixed!
[03:32] <Sesshoumaru> thanks
[03:32] <xnitex> uhm okay?
[03:32] <Yorokobi> xnitex, replace the us with gb and try it again
[03:32] <xnitex> ok
[03:32] <BluesKaj> tried rolling back X , it wont' work without the fglrx drivers
[03:32] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, what did you do?
[03:33] <xnitex> gb.archive is the second entry in the repo list
[03:33] <xnitex> so its ALREADY there?
[03:33] <Sesshoumaru> err.. not sure.. chnaged the resolution with a different thing..
[03:33] <Sesshoumaru> but it worked cause of the cfgs
[03:33] <Yorokobi> BluesKaj, sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:34] <Yorokobi> xnitex, so remove the us one
[03:34] <xnitex> almost everyone of them is a us one
[03:34] <xnitex> ???
[03:35] <xnitex> so i should remove all of them is what you are saying besides the http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-propsed main one?
[03:35] <Yorokobi> dude, xnitex : your problem is with the edgy-proposed with us. Nuke it
[03:35] <Yorokobi> not the others
[03:35] <intelikey> sudo sed 's/us.archive/nl.archive/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:36] <Yorokobi> intelikey, too many changes there
[03:36] <xnitex> thats the only one that closely matches deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-proposed restricted main multiverse universe
[03:36] <LINI_IX> hy can nybody help me pls my screen resolution changed to 640x480 and i cant change it back
[03:36] <Chemicalvamp> i might be of some help i JUST did this
[03:36] <xnitex> ??? and there is no us in front of it?
[03:36] <xnitex> :[[[
[03:37] <Yorokobi> xnitex, deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-proposed main is the ONLY edgy-proposed entry you need. The others (just edgy) don't change
[03:37] <pagansmind> humm
[03:37] <Chemicalvamp> are you doing genaric, i386, or am64?
[03:37] <Yorokobi> or need to be removed
[03:39] <intelikey> LINI_IX did you change the vidio driver ?
[03:39] <xnitex> ok so yeah
[03:39] <Chemicalvamp> xnitex: it should look like this deb - http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/archive-edgy-dist-upgrade-kde356-i386/ - / for i386 ! - seperates fields
[03:39] <LINI_IX> non it changed bi itself
[03:39] <xnitex> i took out that line i pasted
[03:40] <xnitex> and it still gives me the same error when fetching packages to upgrade kubuntu
[03:40] <pollyo> Anyone familiar with Reaktivate?
[03:40] <Chemicalvamp> !paste
[03:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:40] <Yorokobi> xnitex, well then. prefix it with #
[03:40] <Chemicalvamp> show it to me
[03:40] <xnitex> hrm?
[03:40] <ubuntu> Hello all.....I just installed Kubuntu and restarted and windows loaded and GRUB didn't show up...so I followed the various guides teling me to use the terminal to mess with grub, but when I use the find command it can't it can't find anything.
[03:40] <Chemicalvamp> show me the error
[03:40] <Chemicalvamp> use the website to paste it
[03:41] <Yorokobi> ubuntu, what are you using for find ?
[03:41] <ubuntu> terminal>grub   "find /boot/grub/stage1" is what the guide said to do
[03:41] <xnitex> ChemicalVamp : Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[03:41] <intelikey> LINI_IX   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    is how to redefine the vidio settings.  then restarting the xserver ( [ctrl] +[alt] +[backspace]  )    should make it to where you can adjust the settings from within the gui app.
[03:42] <xnitex> hrm?
[03:42] <Yorokobi> ubuntu, try find / -name stage1 ... but /boot/grub/ is where stage1 is located
[03:42] <xnitex> i'm a cunt hair away from having no hair left or walking away because i dont understand?
[03:42] <xnitex> perhaps someone could rd with me to help fix this?
[03:42] <forham> Yorokobi, i still have the same issue :(
[03:42] <forham> let me start up kubuntu at the far side of the kube
[03:42] <forham> and ask again as ubuntu
[03:43] <Chemicalvamp> xnitex, type sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:43] <intelikey> Chemicalvamp no.
[03:43] <intelikey> kdesu   not sudo
[03:43] <Chemicalvamp> thats just what i did
[03:43] <intelikey> !kdesu | Chemicalvamp
[03:43] <ubotu> Chemicalvamp: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[03:44] <m4ntis> yoro:  I tried exactly that and I still got an Error 15: file not found
[03:44] <freeza> does anyone know how to make an alias to have my eth0 which is my wireless to go to wlan0?
[03:44] <xnitex> okay either way
[03:44] <xnitex> its opened now
[03:44] <intelikey> !worksforme | Chemicalvamp
[03:44] <ubotu> Chemicalvamp: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:44] <xnitex> now what chemical?
[03:45] <Chemicalvamp> open http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and paste it, click paste and copy the link here and show it to us
[03:45] <taz_> Hello. I'm new Linux user and I'm looking for a full transparency shell.
[03:45] <Chemicalvamp> i agree with intelikey . im new didnt know thanks intelikey
[03:45] <Yorokobi> m4ntis, try ' ls /boot/grub' is there a stage1 there ? i
[03:46] <m4ntis> well that may be a problem...."no such directory"
[03:46] <Yorokobi> taz_, if you have beryl up and running you can use konsole-alpha or tweak beryl to give the same effect to yukuake
[03:46] <m4ntis> maybe the isntall didn't work right
[03:47] <Chemicalvamp> but paste the sorces.list in that site and click paste, and give us the link
[03:47] <xnitex> dude i pasted the error in here chemicalvamp without having to use that
[03:47] <taz_> Yorokobi: Erf... Does beryl need lot of RAM?
[03:47] <xnitex> and i dont even know what syntax to use
[03:47] <Yorokobi> m4ntis, yeah. No /boot/grub is not good unless you're using a different boot loader (LILO ??)
[03:47] <intelikey> Chemicalvamp welcome.    saves trying to sort out the problems with permissions if you don't tell them to do things that will muck up perms.   less stress for all.
[03:47] <xnitex> IM A NEWBIE?
[03:47] <flaccid> i have permission denied/cannot access my optical drive, what should i do
[03:47] <Yorokobi> taz_, it needs a decent video card
[03:47] <intelikey> flaccid what is the fs on it ?
[03:47] <Chemicalvamp> xnitex, did you already add the repository for the update?
[03:47] <taz_> Yorokobi: I have ATI Radeon Xpress200M.
[03:48] <xnitex> what repository, CHRIST
[03:48] <Yorokobi> taz_, you can get a partial transparency with konsole
[03:48] <xnitex> I have all the repos in there
[03:48] <xnitex> The upgrade distro is already to the point of "preparing the upgrade"
[03:48] <flaccid> intelikey: it seems that only kde/hald has problems mounting it. doing a mount /media/cdrom0 works as a normal user
[03:48] <intelikey> taz looked at eterm ?
[03:48] <xnitex> and it is fetching and says fetching complete and brings up the error window
[03:48] <taz_> Yorokobi: yeah I know
[03:49] <taz_> intelikey: nop, only use Konsole
[03:49] <m4ntis> well, let me walk through what I did...I have a partition 20gb partition that I split into a swap and a ext2 partition, then I mounted them as the swap and /, where should I have mounted /boot?
[03:49] <xnitex> do you understand where i'm at now?
[03:49] <LINI_IX> hy i cant change my screen resolution pls help me
[03:49] <m4ntis> because I'm guessing that's what happened
[03:49] <Yorokobi> Eterm's transparency is similar to konsole's except that eterm has a harder time keeping up with changes to the desktop background
[03:49] <Chemicalvamp> wich repository did you use?
[03:50] <xnitex> the ones you all told me to
[03:50] <intelikey> flaccid sorry then i might be able to help with the other end but kde is more than i care to try to learn...      "dog too old to learn new tricks."
[03:50] <xnitex> ?
[03:50] <kai> Im using ktorrent I'm having a seeding issue
[03:50] <Chemicalvamp> i didnt get that error, but i used the correct repo
[03:50] <Yorokobi> m4ntis, /boot should be created with /
[03:50] <Chemicalvamp> there are three choices on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[03:50] <kai> I have all my ports opnede and everything is there anything I might be missing
[03:50] <xnitex> why dont you tell me again that i should delete every repo
[03:50] <xnitex> and just give me the repo i need thats the "correct" one
[03:50] <Chemicalvamp> you ony need one
[03:50] <xnitex> since i guess the upgrade distro
[03:50] <xnitex> and all that is WRONG
[03:50] <m4ntis> weird...is there any way to go about redoing that without messing with the entire install?
[03:51] <xnitex> since its already fetching
[03:51] <Chemicalvamp> notice the or:
[03:51] <xnitex> and all of that?
[03:51] <xnitex> hrm? whats the correct and ONLY repo i need in the list then chemical i'm sorry for being so frustrated
[03:51] <xnitex> its just really pissing me off
[03:52] <Chemicalvamp> whats your archeticture? pentium or amd
[03:52] <xnitex> pentium
[03:52] <Chemicalvamp> ok then you need i386
[03:52] <Yorokobi> m4ntis, what happens when you run sudo update-grub ?
[03:53] <xnitex> okay well i dont think any of you are understanding me
[03:53] <xnitex> i'm using adept
[03:53] <xnitex> and i only need to have the gb repo active
[03:53] <xnitex> and disable every other one?
[03:53] <xnitex> maybe that will work?
[03:53] <m4ntis> no grub directory found and the commands to install/create
[03:53] <ufo_> How can i know where is configurated the modem usb?
[03:53] <ufo_> tty0
[03:53] <ufo_> tty1
[03:53] <Sneak> hey guys, i'm trying to ./configure an app but i'm getting "configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check" not sure exactly what i'm missing
[03:53] <ufo_> etc etc
[03:54] <intelikey> !patience
[03:54] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:54] <Chemicalvamp> so your only added repository should be "deb (next field) http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/edgy-dist-upgrade-kde356/ (next field) /
[03:54] <Yorokobi> m4ntis, how about sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub ??
[03:54] <flaccid> intelikey: i dunno br0. i think the problem is kubuntu but yeah
[03:54] <Yorokobi> Chemicalvamp, that's the AMD 64 repo, not the i386
[03:54] <LINI_IX> is there anybody who can help me here
[03:55] <Chemicalvamp> ack your right
[03:55] <m4ntis> Yorokobi:  didn't appear to do anything
[03:55] <xnitex> okay so which repo?
[03:55] <xnitex> aahaha
[03:55] <Chemicalvamp> deb (next field) http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/archive-edgy-dist-upgrade-kde356-i386/ (next field) /
[03:55] <xnitex> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ ?
[03:56] <intelikey> flaccid ummm if you can mount it from the command line without issue but kde (kioslave) is not working for you... it's ubuntu yeah but it's in the kde department.  not in the kernel/fs/base_system   department.
[03:56] <Yorokobi> m4ntis, I don't know
[03:56] <Chemicalvamp> dont use http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/, you should use archectecture specific
[03:57] <m4ntis> yorokobi:  fair enough, do you think I should mess with trying to manually install grub?
[03:57] <intelikey> LINI_IX did you reconfigure xorg ?
[03:57] <Yorokobi> LINI_IX, when you click on Kmenu -> System Settings -> Monitor & Display then Administrator mode you should be able to change the resolution
[03:57] <Yorokobi> !fixres | LINI_IX
[03:57] <ubotu> LINI_IX: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:58] <Yorokobi> m4ntis, that's up to you. I'd back up everything you need first though :)
[03:58] <Sneak> Can anyone tell me what i'm missing to fix a "configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check" error when configuring apps
[03:58] <Yorokobi> Sneak, what are you trying to compile ?
[03:59] <Sneak> transKode specifically
[03:59] <esaym> what protocol and cipher uses the least amount of cpu cycles?
[03:59] <flaccid> intelikey: i don't think its that easily abstracted. ubuntu userland could be responsible because i have no problem on same box with freebsd and kde same kde version
[03:59] <flaccid> !cdrom
[03:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdrom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <flaccid> !hald
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hald - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <flaccid> ah well
[04:00] <esaym> I can only transfer to a box I have at 1mbs because the cpu is maxed....
[04:00] <Yorokobi> Sneak, have you read through http://www.transcoding.org/cgi-bin/transcode?Building_Transcode
[04:00] <flaccid> intelikey: i'll see if #kde can shed light thanks br0
[04:01] <m4ntis> oh well, I may try a reinstall, I have the time to blow :)  thanks anyway yorokobi
[04:01] <Yorokobi> m4ntis, if you do, create a 100MB ext3 partition specifically for /boot
[04:01] <intelikey> flaccid sorry i can't do anything to really help there...
[04:01] <Sneak> thats a different transcode Yorokobi :)
[04:01] <Sneak> i'm trying to configure transKode with a K
[04:02] <m4ntis> yorokobi:  is there a large difference between ext2 and ext3?
[04:02] <Sneak> I'm assuming i'm missing something in general to ./configure applications
[04:02] <Yorokobi> journaling v non-journaling
[04:02] <ufo_> why modem is busy on tty0-1-2-3
[04:02] <ufo_> ?
[04:02] <ufo_> help me!
[04:03] <Chemicalvamp> !helpme
[04:03] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:03] <Yorokobi> ufo_, tty1-12 is the local tty, not a modem
[04:03] <intelikey> !b-e | Sneak
[04:03] <ubotu> Sneak: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:03] <Yorokobi> a USB modem might be /dev/usb???
[04:04] <intelikey> !modem
[04:04] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[04:04] <Sneak> there we go, intelikey always comes through ;)
[04:05] <taz_> when I open Konqueror, I see /home and /media only. Where are /bin, /etc, /usr  etc etc?
[04:05] <tarelerulz> How would you set up a twm session?
[04:06] <Yorokobi> taz_, type /etc or /bin in the location bar
[04:06] <ufo_> if i use /dev/usb it can't find the directory!!!
[04:06] <ufo_> and so?
[04:06] <Sneak> yay for build-essential, I always forget to install that, thanks :)
[04:06] <taz_> Yokorobi : arf :/
[04:06] <tarelerulz> I just see home and media too
[04:06] <intelikey> Sneak np.
[04:07] <tarelerulz> when I go into the konqueror or any file manager
[04:07] <taz_> Yorokobi: thanks. Why can't i see them directly?
[04:07] <intelikey> !hidden | taz_
[04:07] <ubotu> taz_: Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[04:07] <Yorokobi> There you go ^^
[04:07] <flaccid> lol
[04:07] <taz_> Aaaahhhh.... moarf
[04:07] <flaccid> why did they introduce it then
[04:08] <intelikey> flaccid actually i think that was my fault....
[04:08] <Chemicalvamp> xnitex, is it working?
[04:08] <taz_> To keep noob away from sensitives files I guess
[04:08] <Yorokobi> that'd be my guess
[04:08] <intelikey> taz_ yes
[04:09] <flaccid> lol
[04:09] <flaccid> thats what fs perms/posix is for hehe
[04:09] <m4ntis> my partitions are acting weird now,  I have my 20gb partition, when I partition 18gb for the ext3 it won't let me manipulate the left over portion so I can't make a swap or a /boot partition
[04:09] <Yorokobi> and SELinux for those who go through the trouble
[04:10] <taz_> erf, can't open internet site with Konqueror now... damn
[04:10] <flaccid> i would of thought a firewall for ubuntu would of been a bigger priority
[04:10] <Yorokobi> m4ntis, make the small partitions first
[04:10] <intelikey> flaccid i was blabbering about how i had hidden the root fs by ching perms    chmod 751 /   while they were gathering ideas for edgy "before dapper released"   and lo and behold there it is....
[04:10] <intelikey> changing ^
[04:11] <flaccid> ah fair enough
[04:11] <intelikey> flaccid firewall ?   linux has one.  called iptables   built into the kernel
[04:11] <flaccid> i know
[04:11] <intelikey> did you mean a configurator ?
[04:11] <flaccid> ubuntu installer doesn't ask if you want it does it? ie. no firewall by default on ubuntu
[04:12] <intelikey> no firewall needed by default.   no services running
[04:12] <utnubuk> my screen saver isnt working, after a few minutes of no activity the screen displays weird colors and lines but moving the mouse fixes the problem real quick
[04:12] <flaccid> security engineers would disagree with you on that
[04:12] <Yorokobi> flaccid, not like RHEL/CentOS/FC5|6, no
[04:12] <hitmanWilly> flaccid: try lokkit
[04:12] <utnubuk> anybody else run into a similar problem?
[04:13] <flaccid> i'm just saying ubuntu has no firewall native/default
[04:13] <flaccid> i do know how to configure a firewall..
[04:13] <m4ntis> yorokobi:  doesn't resolve the problem the second chunk won't give me the option to edit it
[04:13] <intelikey> flaccid security engineers would disagree with making a root jr. account and calling it safer than a root password too...
[04:13] <m4ntis> would being a primary partion be the problem?
[04:14] <Yorokobi> m4ntis, maybe ... this is why I don't like the gui installer :)
[04:14] <m4ntis> haha, I'd be up for non-gui, but I'm a total newbie
[04:14] <intelikey> flaccid heh could do an iptables reject all  by default...  :)
[04:15] <Yorokobi> intelikey, that'd be bad
[04:15] <Yorokobi> :)
[04:15] <intelikey> Yorokobi it'd be safe
[04:15] <Yorokobi> but bad
[04:15] <Yorokobi> unless ESTABLISHED rules were in place
[04:15] <flaccid> yes ubuntu is not exactly a security related distro
[04:15] <taz_> Could someone tell me how to see hidden files and directories? (can't connect to any site, don't know why)
[04:15] <intelikey> safty is normally bad   in a very general sense
[04:16] <hitmanWilly> just unplug your network cable, thats the safest of all
[04:16] <hitmanWilly> :)
[04:16] <pagansmind> ls -a
[04:16] <Yorokobi> taz_ in konqueror or konsole ?
[04:17] <intelikey> hitman yep no box is safe if it's pluged in (or ran on battery)
[04:17] <taz_> Yorokobi: in konqueror
[04:17] <Yorokobi> taz_, click on View then Show Hidden Files
[04:17] <intelikey> taz_ in konqueror's menu ^
[04:17] <pollyo> intelikey: So solar power is secure? <grin>
[04:17] <intelikey> taz_ they are not hidden from the konsole tho
[04:18] <taz_> Yorokobi: grmf, I saw it earlier and I did't remember where
[04:18] <intelikey> pollyo as long as it's dark.  </grin>
[04:18] <pollyo> lol
[04:18] <m4ntis> I think I'm going to boot into windows and partition magic it
[04:18] <soulrider> hi everyone :)
[04:18] <m4ntis> thanks again yorokobi :)
[04:18] <Yorokobi> sorry m4ntis its not usually so difficult
[04:19] <m4ntis> yea, it was really easy last time, which is why I was so perplexed.  Oh well...I'm patient
[04:19] <Yorokobi> Of course, Yorokobi has more experience installing RHEL/CentOS than Kubuntu ... disk partitioning is more flexible with those installers
[04:20] <taz_> Free from windows.... yahaaaa!!!
[04:20] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi can you tell me how to compile a wifi driver?
[04:20] <Yorokobi> oy
[04:20] <intelikey> flaccid ubuntu is a little like M$ Windows (R)  in that respect.  by default, it's not nearly as secure as it can be.   the user is "expected" to add security measures that parallel their needs.
[04:20] <Sesshoumaru> i'm about free from M$   :)
[04:20] <pollyo> Do they have a voice recognition program for kde?
[04:20] <Yorokobi> What wifi card/chipset do you have Sesshoumaru ?
[04:21] <tarelerulz> I have the mplayer plugin for firefox and it does not play all the file mplayer covers
[04:21] <soulrider> taz_: being free form widnows is the best!!
[04:21] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi: Belkin F5D7000.. i already have the correct driver. but i have to compile it
[04:21] <intelikey> being free from M$ and all non-free code   is the best.
[04:21] <soulrider> intelikey: its still really secure though IMHO
[04:22] <flaccid> intelikey: yeah its in oxymoron, however ubuntu goals are not really that clear
[04:22] <tarelerulz> It gives me the option to save it to the hard drive
[04:22] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, you've confirmed this with Belkin and/or the ubuntu wiki ?
[04:22] <taz_> soulrider: I agree! I just keep it for games
[04:22] <soulrider> taz_: like me :P
[04:22] <taz_> soulrider: ^^
[04:22] <soulrider> taz_: i actually have a 20 GB partition with win just to play Command and Conquer and Lineage II, but with college i dont really have time to play anyore
[04:23] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi: what do you mean?... i have the source code for the correct driver
[04:23] <soulrider> right now im using an empty hard drive, which i installed arch on
[04:23] <elitehacker> hey i am having problems in decieding wich java files do i use on my "os" and PC?
[04:23] <soulrider> and im trying to figure out how to install xorg and GNOME now :P
[04:23] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, what I mean is, is that chipset supported by the 2.6 kernel?
[04:23] <taz_> soulrider: Huuu college.... I'm french, there's not same meaning here.
[04:24] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi: er.. i haven't checked,...where can i find out?
[04:24] <soulrider> taz_: university, whatever, im busy! :P
[04:24] <soulrider> i wish irssi had a bit more colors :P
[04:24] <Carutsu> by any chance do anyone knows if there's a plugin for Konqueror for mutting flash apps?
[04:25] <intelikey> flaccid if i understand the origenal goal at all,  the basic plan is to put linux in the list of choices when you go to a site and start to dl something and it says   for   windows 9x,me click here   for windows nt,xp click here   or for mac click here          </end of list>       and in that respect the basic idea is "compeet with M$ for popularity"   which is not the best course imo.
[04:25] <soulrider> Carutsu: cant you right click them and disable sounds ?
[04:25] <taz_> soulrider : Oh ok.
[04:25] <elitehacker> hey which file do i download for my kubuntu Linux RPM or LINUX self extract. i am trying to donwload java
[04:25] <Carutsu> elitehacker: wait a second... never tryed
[04:25] <elitehacker> heres the link
[04:25] <Yorokobi> elitehacker, Kubuntu is not RPM friendly
[04:25] <soulrider> elitehacker: for the 999999999th time, read the friggin wiki!
[04:25] <elitehacker> http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp?locale=en&host=www.java.co
[04:26] <Carutsu> elitehacker: nope
[04:26] <elitehacker> wich one thou?
[04:26] <Carutsu> elitehacker: doesn't have that option
[04:26] <intelikey> but it's not my distro.  it's marks and his opention trumps mine.
[04:26] <elitehacker> i know its not RPM
[04:26] <intelikey> openion
[04:26] <elitehacker> but theres some there that are x68? when mine is x86
[04:26] <soulrider> intelikey: ubuntu is what got me into linux
[04:26] <Jucato> opinion
[04:26] <soulrider> lol Jucato
[04:26] <Jucato> :)
[04:26] <soulrider> how are you today Jucato  ?
[04:26] <pollyo> elitehacker: You still working on java?
[04:27] <elitehacker> yes
[04:27] <pollyo> elitehacker: Start up adept.
[04:27] <elitehacker> lol i got frost to install but it wont open
[04:27] <soulrider> pollyo: he wont read the damn wikis!
[04:27] <elitehacker> k
[04:27] <intelikey> Jucato will you never learn to speek intelikey'ish  ?
[04:27] <elitehacker> k i have it started
[04:27] <pollyo> soulrider: He will not even listen to suggestions.
[04:27] <soulrider> yeah
[04:27] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi: what program can i compile this with?
[04:27] <Jucato> pollyo, elitehacker: unless you are on Feisty *do not* install Java using Adept
[04:27] <elitehacker> hey i have adept strated
[04:28] <elitehacker> whats feisty?
[04:28] <pollyo> elitehacker: :click VIEW
[04:28] <Jucato> !java | elitehacker
[04:28] <ubotu> elitehacker: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[04:28] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, where'd you get the driver from ?
[04:28] <soulrider> Jucato: this has been going on for the last 36 hours
[04:28] <intelikey> !feisty > elitehacker
[04:28] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi: http://madwifi.org
[04:28] <soulrider> Jucato: we already gave him all sort of links to wikis about installing software, package management, but he wont listen to suggestions or anything
[04:28] <pollyo> elitehacker: Did you click View?
[04:28] <elitehacker> yes but the wont work
[04:28] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi: i think i get a deb
[04:28] <elitehacker> yes
[04:29] <pollyo> elitehacker: : What were the options?
[04:29] <soulrider> ok, im gonna go try to install xorg, bbl! :P
[04:29] <elitehacker> why are u giving me links to beta version?
[04:29] <pollyo> elitehacker: What were the options when you clicked view?
[04:29] <taz_> because feisty is in beta version
[04:29] <elitehacker> on what i am just veiwing the first link about the ubuntu fourms
[04:30] <taz_> release is... 14 of april (?)
[04:30] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, that's an Atheros-based card. It should work out of the box (no compiling necessary)
[04:30] <pollyo> elitehacker: I was discussing adept.  I thought you said you had started it.
[04:30] <elitehacker> yeah
[04:30] <pollyo> elitehacker: Ok then... What are the options under the VIEW option?
[04:30] <elitehacker> i did but then i closed becuase u sayed i needed fiesty but i dont so u told me not to install java threw adept
[04:31] <soulrider> damn, xorg is onlt 23mB ?
[04:31] <pollyo> elitehacker: I never said feisty.  That was someone else in the room suggesting feisty.
[04:31] <elitehacker> ohh lol
[04:31] <pollyo> elitehacker: At the very least they were discussing it.
[04:31] <elitehacker> k i will start it again
[04:31] <intelikey> soulrider xorg is not that big is it?  you must mean x + it's deps ???
[04:31] <elitehacker> is it true there is no viruses for kubuntu?
[04:31] <soulrider> intelikey: yeah
[04:32] <soulrider> intelikey: a craplaod pf packages actually
[04:32] <pollyo> elitehacker: Stick to one concern at a time please.
[04:32] <elitehacker> lol i have it opend
[04:32] <soulrider> lol pollyo
[04:32] <Yorokobi> elitehacker, someone wrote a virus for linux years ago but it won't work now.
[04:32] <pollyo> elitehacker: Ok.  What did it show when you clicked VIEW
[04:32] <Jucato> pollyo: you can modify the sources.list from Adept. but do not install Java through adept. you won't be able to accept the license agreement in Adept
[04:32] <Jucato> just a note as you walk him through it. good luck
[04:32] <intelikey> Size: 3529126 soulrider
[04:33] <elitehacker> show package list show last download
[04:33] <intelikey> 3.5M
[04:33] <pollyo> Jucato: I just want to have him extend the Sources using the GUI
[04:33] <soulrider> we need to modify konversation so that when grammar starts getting terrible, it zaps people through their keyboards :P
[04:33] <elitehacker> show dpkg run
[04:33] <flaccid> ouch
[04:33] <flaccid> that hurt
[04:33] <soulrider> intelikey: thats tiny!
[04:33] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi: i didn't get a good signal (like 30-40) with the router like a foot away
[04:33] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi: you have to know something.. i'm a noob. (<_<)
[04:33] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi: i didn't get a good signal (like 30-40) with the router like a foot away
[04:33] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi: you have to know something.. i'm a noob. (<_<)
[04:33] <flaccid> sorry i'm testing a konversation zap beta
[04:33] <pollyo> soulrider: I could have used that when I was a kid.  You can not teach an old dog new tricks.
[04:33] <elitehacker> i have great grammar unlike some ppl its like giberish
[04:33] <xnitex> in adept distibution upgrade why does it say this error and how can i fix it? Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-proposed/Release Unable to find expected entry  [WWW] /binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[04:34] <pollyo> elitehacker: Click VIEW and then Manage Repositories
[04:34] <soulrider> elitehacker: thats what they tell you :P
[04:34] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, what was reporting the signal strength?
[04:34] <intelikey> that's it's size   plus a few k of modules for your kb and mouse and vidio card.  about 4M in all.
[04:34] <Sesshoumaru>  Yorokobi: i didn't get a good signal (like 30-40) with the router like a foot away
[04:34] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi: you have to know something.. i'm a noob. (<_<)
[04:34] <elitehacker> alll rite i did
[04:34] <philphoto> any reliability problems with feisty?
[04:34] <pollyo> elitehacker: What happened after you did that?
[04:35] <elitehacker> its shows faded txt comment## inuvirse will not recive and all that
[04:35] <soulrider> intelikey: the binaries in the arch repos are 23mB total which i find 100% acceptable :P
[04:35] <soulrider> Jucato: indeed :P
[04:35] <flaccid> intelikey: heh i found the bug for cdrom i think. kde wants to mount as /media/dvdrecorder which does not exist
[04:35] <elitehacker> hey now what do i do pollyo
[04:35] <intelikey> flaccid hmmm is it actually a burner ?
[04:35] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, what was reporting the signal strength?
[04:35] <flaccid> yeah
[04:36] <soulrider> this is funny, i have an ATA hard drive, and its appearing as 'sda'
[04:36] <flaccid> hmm still say 'Permissions denied'
[04:36] <pollyo> elitehacker: Did a window titled Software Sources open?
[04:36] <Sesshoumaru> like 30-40 a foot away from the router
[04:36] <elitehacker> no..nothing
[04:36] <tarelerulz> in firefox I seem to have the option to change what it use to open file to out side program
[04:36] <intelikey> flaccid ;/
[04:36] <pollyo> elitehacker: Do you see "Software Sources" listed in the bar at the bottom of the screen?
[04:36] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, what reported the signal strength?
[04:37] <tarelerulz> I don't have the option to change it so all media is play with mplayer plugin
[04:37] <Sesshoumaru> i just told you
[04:37] <flaccid> intelikey: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=7nW&q=kde+%22permissions+denied%22+cdrom&btnG=Search
[04:37] <intelikey> i think i'll install debian so i can be leet.
[04:37] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi, he signal is crap
[04:37] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, you told me what the signal strength was but not what reported it
[04:37] <elitehacker> pollyo: cant we just share dsktop and u can see what i see instead of talking it would be alot simpler
[04:37] <utnubuk> my screen saver isnt working, after a few minutes of no activity the screen displays weird colors and lines but moving the mouse fixes the problem real quick
[04:37] <soulrider> intelikey: i jave a question, when someone pastes a link here on IRC, how do you copy it so you can open it up on links or some browser in another console ?
[04:37] <pollyo> elitehacker: It is bad enough I am attempting to spoon feed you.
[04:37] <Sesshoumaru> reported.. how do i find that out? lol
[04:37] <utnubuk> anybody else run into a similar problem?
[04:38] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, kwifimanager ? knetworkmanager? wlassistant?
[04:38] <taz_> Is it easy to change KDE env. for Gnome?
[04:38] <flaccid> intelikey: maybe this http://archive.kanotix.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=125156 but tis a dif distro
[04:38] <pollyo> elitehacker: If you want me to login to your desktop you are going to have to change your screen name.
[04:38] <intelikey> soulrider gpm.
[04:38] <soulrider> intelikey: youre more than leet :P you dont have xorg (or was that comment sarcastic?)
[04:38] <elitehacker> pollyo: why?
[04:38] <intelikey> flaccid k looking.
[04:38] <elitehacker> pollyo: cuz it says hacker?
[04:38] <pollyo> elitehacker: Elitehackers do not have people remote login to configure the system.
[04:38] <Sesshoumaru> i have kwifimanager
[04:39] <intelikey> soulrider no it's not crsksm
[04:39] <utnubuk> lmao
[04:39] <soulrider> pollyo: i dont think he is either elite, nor hacker
[04:39] <Sesshoumaru> the card isn't currently in right now
[04:39] <elitehacker> pollyo: i know but i wouldnt do anything if i cant even install java if it was windows then that would be diff.
[04:39] <soulrider> intelikey: uhm, ok
[04:39] <soulrider> elitehacker: you cant install anything because you dont want to read anything or listen to anything
[04:39] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, how is it you're getting a signal strength with no wifi card in use?
[04:40] <intelikey> and no login either.   "that doesn't mean just autologin,  it means that login is not at all possable piriod"
[04:40] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi: LOL.. i just took it out like 5 mins ago
[04:40] <soulrider> besides, your "you copy windows" and "im only gonna use linux for a week, then go back to win" comments werent helpful at all.
[04:40] <elitehacker> pollyo: yeah true but since i know windows to good i think of linux as windows (BAD IDEA) and rush evreything
[04:40] <Yorokobi> oh
[04:40] <pollyo> elitehacker: Ok.  Click VIEW and then Manage repository and tell me what it does again?
[04:40] <elitehacker> it shows lists of comments
[04:40] <elitehacker> comment## followed buy random things
[04:41] <pollyo> elitehacker: Tell me what is on the bar above View.
[04:41] <elitehacker> i can add a new repo or reset or apply on the bottom
[04:41] <intelikey> flaccid heh you did see the  "be sure there is nothing in fstab about the cdrom" didn't you ?    just a thought.
[04:41] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, so aside from the reportedly low signal strength, your wifi works ?
[04:42] <elitehacker> it says FETCH UPDATES or PREVIEW CHANGES and the rest is faded out so i cant click on it
[04:42] <intelikey> i have three boot loaders installed.
[04:42] <pollyo> elitehacker: Look above those things...
[04:42] <Jucato> pollyo: he's seeing the old (pre-feisty) manage repositories window
[04:42] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi, uhh no
[04:42] <pollyo> elitehacker: Above "Fetch Updates" , "Preview Changes"... That is where Adept, Edit, View is....
[04:42] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi, thats why i wanted a clean driver
[04:42] <elitehacker> yeah
[04:43] <pollyo> elitehacker: I asked what was above view and you told me "Fetch Updates"
[04:43] <elitehacker> pollyo: so now what
[04:43] <pollyo> elitehacker: That is below View.
[04:43] <elitehacker> ohhh
[04:43] <elitehacker> no
[04:43] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, not working at all or not working well enough ?
[04:43] <elitehacker> nothing just the title bar
[04:43] <pollyo> elitehacker: You are beyond my help.
[04:43] <pollyo> elitehacker: You will have to find a fellow Elite hacker.
[04:44] <pollyo> elitehacker: Good day and Good luck.
[04:44] <elitehacker> it shows the title bar ADEPT MANAGER
[04:44] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi: i never got internet connection yet it did say it was connected
[04:44] <pollyo> elitehacker: Friend.  I can not help you.