[12:00] <stian> Hey, I just loaded a hd installed with ubuntu-server onto a new computer, only things that remain the same from the old computer is HD, CPU and NIC, new is hk, ram and the rest is buildt in on hk
[12:00] <DESiBELi> nevermind.. i installed firestarter
[12:00] <stian> So, everything works, except the NIC isn't displaying
[12:00] <stian> Anyone got any suggestions?
[12:00] <udo> how can i test speakers?
[12:01] <igorzolnikov> i have equals error
[12:01] <Jowi> udo: "speaker-test"
[12:01] <Sjoerd-> sudo apt-get install won't work without internet connection, right?
[12:01] <stian> igorzolnikov, equals error?
[12:01] <igorzolnikov> yes
[12:01] <crimsun> Sjoerd-: depends if you have the cdrom source active and have the cdrom mounted.
[12:01] <N9URK> BioVorE: I have never really used a Linux desktop.  I have done everything from the command line, so I don't really know how good it is. but since you know, I will just edit it by hand
[12:01] <stian> Sjoerd unless you install from the cdrom
[12:01] <N9URK> BioVorE: much easier that way
[12:01] <zx8> hi
[12:01] <ompaul> igorzolnikov, that is not right in english, do you mean the same error, or something else?
[12:01] <Azi_Dahaka> is the issue with the broadcomm wireless nic solved on dapper ?
[12:02] <Sjoerd-> Alright, how do I force it to install from cd-rom? Or will that be automatically done?
[12:02] <zx8> can anyone reccomend a good web host to me?
[12:02] <BioVorE> N9URK: I am a command line rat here..  you can do so much from it you can't do in a gui enviroment
[12:02] <exhale> does anyone run ubuntu dapper on a nforce4 based mobo?
[12:03] <skavenge> disable the internet repositories and just keep the cdrom on the list is one way ...
[12:03] <Zambezi> Anyone using Thunderbird to download POP3-mail?
[12:04] <folkert> just installed
[12:04] <folkert> so if you have a sec
[12:04] <ompaul> Zambezi, lots of people do
[12:04] <Zambezi> folkert, Of course.
[12:04] <Sjoerd-> is network manger on the ubuntu cd-rom?
[12:05] <N9URK> BioVorE: THanks for all of your help
[12:05] <Zambezi> ompaul, But noone answer my questions.
[12:06] <ompaul> Zambezi, that was not a useful question, the real question is? (and put it all on one line thanks)
[12:06] <leafw> I have multiverse and universe enabled, how come I can't find the flashplugin-nonfree ?
[12:06] <obsidians> Hey! My laptop seems to be getting really hot, and doesn't seem to be turning the fan on.  What should I look at?
[12:07] <dooglus> Zambezi: which question do you want to ask?
[12:07] <Zambezi> ompaul, The question is: There should I put the backup from TB Windows. In "Local folders" or in "pop3.account.com"?
[12:07] <locust|> Jowi: You still around? (:
[12:07] <ompaul> leafw, after you included them did you do this: sudo apt-get update?
[12:07] <Zambezi> dooglus, The question is: There should I put the backup from TB Windows. In "Local folders" or in "pop3.account.com"?
[12:07] <leafw> ompaul: sorry, I just checked and the multiverse is not enabled
[12:07] <linuxuser> how would i get cups to work correctly with my hp1020 printer, cups does see the printer, but no test pages make it to the printer
[12:07] <ompaul> Zambezi, I know nothing of windows at all, sorry
[12:08] <raldi_> How do i install mplayer on Ubuntu? I've uncommented everything in sources.list, but i still get "E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate"
[12:08] <ompaul> Zambezi, as in I don't run it at all and have avodied it for years
[12:08] <Zambezi> ompaul, Don't care about Windows in this matter.
[12:08] <dooglus> Zambezi: it doesn't matter.
[12:08] <dooglus> Zambezi: it depends whether you want it to be in the shared 'local folders' or in the per-account folder
[12:09] <Zambezi> dooglus: But what if I get another POP3-mail?
[12:09] <linuxuser> anybody know why cups sees my hp 1020 laser jet but will not print to it?
[12:09] <dooglus> Zambezi: I would suggest just using 'local folders' for everything, unless you have a good reason for wanting to keep mail from different accounts separate
[12:09] <skavenge> anyone running a dell 1350 wireless card?
[12:09] <jockey23> Hi I have a Xgl/compiz problem... can someone plz help me?
[12:09] <Zambezi> dooglus: But I probably be better to put it in the pop3-folder if I get another mail? I guess.
[12:10] <dooglus> Zambezi: make a new folder, ending with .sbd, and stick the windows backup in there
[12:10] <ube> how do you start ubuntu in command line mode?
[12:10] <dooglus> ube: remove gdm from the runlevel you're booting into.
[12:10] <skavenge> initab edit, run level 3 i believe
[12:10] <locust|> I've just attempted to upgrade Hoary to Dapper. It seemed the install went okay, but when I restarted, I was having problems starting X. The screen would flash a few times and give me a dialogue stating that there is a problem with the X server and asks if I'd like to diagnose the problem, but at that point, the screen freezes, so I can't select yes or no. I've tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" but that didn't help anyth
[12:10] <locust|> ing at all. Any other ideas as to what the problem could be?
[12:10] <ube> dooglus: thanks
[12:10] <ube> skavenge: thanks
[12:11] <dooglus> ube: you can do it using 'bum' or sysv-rc-conf
[12:11] <ube> oh. i dont know how to do that
[12:11] <Spec> Does 3d accel work well with nVidia's GeForce 7xxx?
[12:12] <obsidians> Hey! My laptop seems to be getting really hot, and doesn't seem to be turning the fan on.  What should I look at?
[12:12] <Spec> obsidians acpi probably
[12:12] <ompaul> ube, it is runlevel 2
[12:12] <obsidians> Spec: I had a look at that..... it seems to be in passive mode, and doesn't have an active mode at all, for some reason.
[12:12] <ompaul> but
[12:12] <ube> ompaul: for command line?
[12:13] <ompaul> ube, you need to stop X to do this
[12:13] <Hoxzer> do u guys want to tell me one thing
[12:13] <ube> the default runlevel is at 2
[12:13] <ompaul> you can for a one time stop do >> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop <<
[12:13] <Hoxzer> Like everytime I get to argue with somebody :/
[12:13] <Hoxzer> That guy hates me rest of his life
[12:13] <locust|> I guess I'll try this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187177
[12:13] <jockey23> xgl worked fine in dapper beta, but now I can't get it to run
[12:14] <Hoxzer> Like ISN'T one argue pretty normal
[12:14] <Hoxzer> but everybody hates me after argue
[12:14] <Zambezi> ompaul, You seems to be a very knowledge guy *sucking up* Is it possible that you explain for me why two packages won't be installed with you get ther errormessages in a pastebin?
[12:14] <Hoxzer> like A LONG TIME
[12:14] <Spec> Hoxzer #ubuntu-oftopic
[12:14] <Spec> offtopic*
[12:14] <ompaul> Hoxzer, GET on topic please - this is not a chat channel it is a support channel
[12:14] <thoreauputic> Hoxzer: this isn't a counselling channel :)
[12:15] <ompaul> Zambezi, tell people in the channel what the pastebin url is
[12:15] <Spec> ompaul: why doesn't anybody like me? :-/
[12:15] <ompaul> ube, sorry, distracted, do this before you stop X install "bum"
[12:15] <folkert> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[12:15] <Hoxzer> sry, guys but normal Finnish people gather to secret mating places at this time of day but I'm nolife -> so I try get my social saticfaction from else where
[12:15] <ompaul> ube, use it to stop "gdm" when your finished
[12:15] <Zambezi> ompaul, Two seconds.
[12:16] <ube> ompaul: okay. i'll try
[12:16] <alexi5> hello
[12:16] <ompaul> ube, then you restart it and it is not there, to run it again (write this down) >> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start <<
[12:16] <alexi5> what packaged do i have to install to get the c compiler and header files
[12:17] <Zambezi> ompaul, I need to translate the text to English berfore I paste it here.
[12:17] <dooglus> alexi5: "build-essential"
[12:17] <alexi5> ok
[12:17] <ompaul> Zambezi, take your time
[12:18] <folkert> ompaul the url i pasted was to the pastebin ;)
[12:18] <Spec> So, if I was gonna get a video card, and definitely wanted XGL/compiz to be good to me, would you suggest nVidia or ATI?
[12:18] <Spec> oo, gotta go, nvidia it is :p
[12:18] <Azi_Dahaka> is the issue with the broadcomm wireless nic solved on dapper ?
[12:19] <Spec> !bcm43xx
[12:19] <ubotu> To use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.
[12:19] <Spec> Azi_Dahaka ^^
[12:19] <skavenge> argh no disk drive on this laptop i dont see how i'm going to get my wireless nic running if i need extra drivers for ndiswrapper ... *sigh*
[12:19] <ompaul> folkert, many people post in different pastebins - so let us wait
[12:20] <ompaul> Spec, there is no good or bad there - ati users are the only ones I have seen in real life
[12:20] <folkert> oh sorry it's the dutch bin
[12:21] <Tommy2k4> sudo: ./Makefile: command not found
[12:21] <Tommy2k4> how can i get it to work
[12:21] <ompaul> folkert, anyone can use it
[12:21] <Sjoerd-> hello, i'm trying to install network manager for gnome. I don't have an internet connection yet and it does not appear to be on the ubuntu cd-rom.
[12:21] <ompaul> folkert,  if someone wants help I want a url that is unique to them
[12:22] <Sjoerd-> How do I install it in another way?
[12:22] <folkert> yes okay i get it now thank you
[12:22] <james_xxx> would it be advisable to put ubuntu on a P3 @ 500Mhz w/256MB ram?
[12:22] <Sjoerd-> depends on what you want to do with it james_xxx
[12:22] <Sjoerd-> it will work fine though
[12:22] <james_xxx> why would it depend?
[12:22] <ompaul> Sjoerd-, from the menu, System ->  administration -> networking that should be there
[12:22] <Sjoerd-> it would work as a webserver or for desktop work, not for gaming
[12:22] <james_xxx> will it lack some functionality?
[12:23] <andreasdk> How do I choose the printer in AcroRead?
[12:23] <james_xxx> ok i am not a gamer
[12:23] <Sjoerd-> ompaul: Why should it be there?
[12:23] <ompaul> james_xxx, that would be great as xubuntu and it would work as ubuntu
[12:23] <ompaul> Sjoerd-, cos that is how it is in ubuntu this being the ubuntu help channel
[12:24] <ompaul> Sjoerd-, unless there is special info you are keeping from me ;-)
[12:24] <Sjoerd-> I think there is a misunderstanding here, I am trying to install network mangere for gnome, so I can use a network with wpa encryption
[12:24] <ompaul> ahh
[12:24] <ompaul> !wireless
[12:24] <ubotu> I guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[12:24] <ompaul> !wpasuplicant
[12:24] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ompaul
[12:25] <ompaul> ubotu, yes
[12:25] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, ompaul?
[12:25] <folkert> james_xxx see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=182951
[12:25] <andreasdk> How do I select a printer in AcreRead?
[12:25] <Sjoerd-> ompaul: My network card is detected and work fine, problem is that ubuntu doesn't seem to support wpa native. I need network manager for that, but I have no idea how to install it.
[12:25] <dylan_> does the non-free repository refer to proprietary software?
[12:26] <futlib> hi, I'm using ubuntu on my laptop, and the hotkeys are all supported in gnome, but not in kde or xfce4. how can I change that? I think "hotkey-setup" is the key package
[12:26] <thoreauputic> dylan_: patent encumbered etc
[12:26] <BioVorE> andreasdk: acroread uses lpd to print.. so you'll have to figure out what the thing is..  normal just use lp
[12:26] <keaton> Hey guys, I've got a live cd issue on an apple G3.
[12:26] <dylan_> thoreauputic, do you recommend i use it?
[12:27] <thoreauputic> dylan_: from a philosophical or practical viewpoint? :)
[12:27] <ompaul>  Sjoerd- in synaptic install   network-manager-gnome
[12:27] <thoreauputic> dylan_: from a practical viewpoint, sure
[12:27] <dylan_> thoreauputic, what would somebody who supports open source say?
[12:27] <Sjoerd-> ompaul: Synaptic install?
[12:27] <skavenge> anyone running a dell 1350 wireless card?
[12:27] <ompaul> Sjoerd-, menu System Administration Synaptic Package Manager
[12:27] <thoreauputic> dylan_: well, it depends on how Free you want to be really
[12:27] <dooglus> dylan_: open source people generally don't care too much about freedom
[12:28] <futlib> anyone?
[12:28] <dylan_> thoreauputic, is there a difference between open and free?  so are you telling me you can have a proprietary open source app?
[12:28] <keaton> I boot from disk, and everything loads up just fine, just like it should, until it gets up to where the splash screen should be and the video craps out. I can hear to login sound but the screen turns off. Any solutions?
[12:28] <ompaul> futlib, you could wait a while please
[12:28] <ompaul> !patience
[12:28] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Please be aware there are a lot of questions, but only maybe few who might know the answer for you. Please be patient. Your attitude may determine their willingness to help you.
[12:28] <Sjoerd-> ompaul: Ah, problem is that it doesn't seem to be on the cd and I don't have internet access. If you are sure about it should be there though, I will go and check. Have to reboot and start Ubuntu :)
[12:28] <futlib> ompaul, roger that
[12:28] <ompaul> Sjoerd-, it is in main and so should be there
[12:28] <thoreauputic> dylan_: umm - look at the package licenses and copyrights and make up your own mind, I guess
[12:29] <dooglus> dylan_: the difference between 'open source' and 'free software': http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-for-freedom.html
[12:29] <knight488> how do you browse memory cards?
[12:29] <Sjoerd-> Ok thank you ompaul, will be back soon :)
[12:29] <Jowi> keaton: if you hear a sound that means that xorg is configured ok. try turning off framebuffer in either bios or in grub
[12:29] <keaton> mmkay, do you have a specific command for that? This is my friends computer, so I'll need to write it down.
[12:29] <ompaul> futlib, that has to be a question for #kubuntu and #xubuntu
[12:30] <futlib>  allright. thanks
[12:30] <ompaul> cheers
[12:30] <Jowi> keaton: sure do. when you see all the different boot stuff in grub, press "e" to edit the line. selcect the "kernel" line and press "e" again. add "vga=normal" press enter then "b" to boot.
[12:31] <ompaul> Jowi, got a wiki account?
[12:31] <keaton> Thanks, man, I owe ya one.
[12:31] <Jowi> keaton: this will *not* alter anything. it is just a one-time deal
[12:31] <yUSiyEEE> anyone install win+ubuntu on the same machine?
[12:31] <Jowi> ompaul: sure do :) wrote a dri kernel compile for the via epia chipset 6 months ago
[12:32] <ompaul> Jowi, can you add that with anything else that makes sense to you to BootOptions
[12:32] <Jowi> ompaul: it's not in the grub howto?
[12:32] <Blue89> why doesn't ubuntu allow me to "sudo cp" my cdrom block device into a file?
[12:32] <ompaul> Jowi, this is a little more evil ;-)
[12:33] <Jowi> ompaul: should I create a new article or modify an existing one?
[12:33] <Zambezi> ompaul, Don't make fun of my. I'm having difficulties with my English. I left the original messages if you might recocnize it when the translation is bad. http://pastebin.com/715565
[12:33] <Zambezi> I need help solving this: http://pastebin.com/715565
[12:33] <ompaul> Jowi, there should really be a unified boot process page but I think that would live on wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions for the moment
[12:33] <your_mom> i need some help i tried to do a fresh install of dapper, and now it wont load it says error 17 on grub cant mount any help
[12:34] <your_mom> i have tried installing it 5-6t times each time no luck
[12:34] <Jowi> ompaul: will have a look. brb
[12:34] <ompaul> Zambezi, dutch?
[12:34] <Zambezi> ompaul, Swedish.
[12:35] <ompaul> Zambezi, try #ubuntu-se
[12:35] <ompaul> :-)
[12:35] <ompaul> Zambezi, let me see if I can see what the issue is
[12:35] <leafw> manymore: sudo apt-get install flasplugin-nonfree  downloads all dependencies and the package itself, but then it never returns when it says "Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3) ..
[12:35] <leafw> any clue on what is up? Which log to look up?
[12:35] <Zambezi> ompaul, I'm already there, but there's too few.
[12:35] <Sjoerd-> ompaul: Sorry, it's not in the list - for me. Is it for you?
[12:35] <knight488> what the command for mounting my memory stick reader?
[12:35] <crimsun> leafw: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh flashplugin-nonfree
[12:36] <Jowi> Zambezi: you don't have the correct password to the OB archives it seems (no idea what that means).
[12:36] <neutrinomass> crimsun: Hi. I pinged you earlier. I've got this sound problem with a friend's computer - everything seems OK but no sound plays, any hints on what might be wrong ?
[12:36] <leafw> crimsun : ok, let me see this phigh
[12:36] <croesus> is there anything like fedora's "Security Level Configuration Tool" for ubuntu?  I'm not wanting the selinux component...just a radio capability to shut down/open certain ports to the outside world....I've been using firestarter but I want something I can show complete noobs.
[12:36] <your_mom> any help on my problem?
[12:36] <Bassetts> is tcl installed by default in ubuntu?
[12:37] <crimsun> neutrinomass: that's much too vague to be useful, not to mention the utter lack of details necessary to troubleshoot.
[12:37] <neutrinomass> crimsun: Was in Breezy and it worked fine with Suse....
[12:37] <ompaul> Zambezi, is appears the issue is here  Configure myth-datab however I don't have mythtv so I have no idea now https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MythTV  it may give some ideas version numbers will be different
[12:37] <leafw> crimsun : /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: flashplugin-nonfree is broken or not fully installed
[12:37] <leafw> crimsun : although, all pkgs claim to be installed
[12:37] <hangfire> your mom, what does the partition look like when you go on live ubuntu?
[12:37] <neutrinomass> crimsun: Yeah, I just want tips on what might be wrong. I think it was an allegro card. Nothing was muted, volumes were up, cabling ok and stuff apparently played ...
[12:37] <ompaul> Sjoerd-, yes, which is why I said that
[12:38] <crimsun> leafw: did you use apt-get/aptitude or Synaptic to install it?
[12:38] <Sjoerd-> ompaul: Strange...
[12:38] <leafw> crimsun : apt-get
[12:38] <crimsun> leafw: sudo apt-get --remove purge flashplugin-nonfree
[12:38] <crimsun> leafw: then use Synaptic to install it
[12:38] <Sjoerd-> ompaul: I used the search and looked for network manager, it only found something for pcmcia cards
[12:38] <leafw> crimsun: ok, clear and reinstall ...
[12:39] <ompaul> Sjoerd-, well i got it from main - can you see  wpasupplicant - Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)
[12:39] <hangfire> hey your mom
[12:39] <leafw> that is --purge remove, right
[12:39] <Ayabara> where does gnome-btdownload put the .torrent files by default?
[12:39] <Tedd> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=www.amxmodx.org
[12:39] <Bassetts> how do you search from terminal?
[12:39] <Tedd> THIS PAGE IS NOT VALID HTML
[12:39] <Tedd> Oops.
[12:39] <Tedd> Wrong channel.
[12:39] <racter> Bassetts: locate
[12:39] <crimsun> neutrinomass: "tips"? There are a half billion tips that /may/ be relevant. I need specifics like driver, amixer output, lspci -v output, ...
[12:39] <Sjoerd-> ompaul: Ah I thought it was just called network manager, let me have a look (rebooting again)
[12:39] <Sjoerd-> ompaul: thanks!
[12:39] <Bassetts> racter: it doesnt find the file though
[12:40] <Bassetts> racter: and i know its there
[12:40] <ompaul> Sjoerd-, network-manager-gnome
[12:40] <racter> Bassetts: you may need to rebuild the locate database with sudo locate -u
[12:40] <neutrinomass> crimsun: OK. I'll try the Dapper cd and report back. Thanks :)
[12:40] <ompaul> Tedd, don't bring attention on yourself ;-)
[12:40] <Sjoerd-> ompaul: There is no network-manager-gnome in the list.
[12:40] <Tedd> ompaul, whoops. :P
[12:40] <Bassetts> ill try that racter
[12:40] <ompaul> sjoerd  network-manager
[12:40] <curley_sue> hallo, I just received an MP4 player. It did not come with any clear instructions and I can't find any tool to upload songs... any managers?
[12:40] <ompaul> ahh
[12:41] <knight488> anyone know how to mount a SD card reader?
[12:41] <konfuzed> hey there a quick question about bios settings.  Should Plug and Play AWARE OS be on or off ??
[12:41] <keaton> While I'm here, I've got another question.
[12:41] <lwizardl> hi
[12:41] <keaton> You guys know how I can mount my PSP?
[12:41] <crimsun> neutrinomass: just to speed things along, what I need is the output from ``lspci -v && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer'' pastebinned
[12:41] <leafw> crimsun : it's stuck at the same place. I suspect the file is never downloaded from the macromedia website
[12:41] <Bassetts> i need libtcl.so, what package gives me that?
[12:42] <leafw> Bassetts : apt-file search libtcl.so
[12:42] <kobun> i need some help i tried to do a fresh install of dapper, and now it wont load it says error 17 on grub cant mount any help
[12:42] <konfuzed> BasL, tcl/tkl or is that tkl/tcl
[12:42] <crimsun> leafw: and you chose the option to install from the Internet, correct?
[12:42] <Bassetts> thanks leafw
[12:42] <leafw> crimsun : correct.
[12:42] <lib8264q> can someone help with a ? .... i downloaded the dvd .iso and have a server install  i wanted to put the desktop on but when i use the command it says please place cd number xxxxxxxxx.2 in cd rom ??? anyone know which version this is would have thought the dvd would have had everthing on it
[12:42] <curley_sue> anyone knows j
[12:43] <leafw> crimsun : so I won't next time.  I'm not at my friend's house now - I was asking because everything I tried had failed. If it doesn't work, I'll pastebin anything you need. Once again, thanks !
[12:43] <curley_sue> anyone knows how to use an mp4 player with ubuntu?
[12:43] <crimsun> leafw: well, let's choose the local download option after you manually grab the tar.gz
[12:43] <konfuzed> lib8264q, what happens if you just hit enter and pretend the disk is already in the drive?
[12:43] <ompaul> !repeat
[12:43] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you.  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Please give it 10 to 15 minutes before asking a second time, thanks.
[12:43] <lib8264q> nope dosent work
[12:43] <leafw> crimsun : on the wya
[12:43] <crimsun> leafw: so yes, close Synaptic, purge flashplugin-nonfree, and reinstall it. First you need to download the tar.gz
[12:44] <ompaul> curley_sue, please read that last message by ubotu thanks
[12:44] <Bassetts> leafw: that returns nothing
[12:44] <UKMatt> I'm trying to load a DVD onto my comp through Ubuntu.. does anyone know of a program that can decode it so that I can download through Acid?
[12:45] <lib8264q> keeps asking for cd which happens to be the name   and realse date.2 ?????
[12:45] <leafw> crimsun : where should the tar.gz go, to which folder should I put it
[12:45] <crimsun> leafw: doesn't really matter, since you can point to it
[12:45] <lib8264q> have used sudo aptidute install ubuntu-desktop
[12:45] <knight488> so no one knows how to make my SD card reader kick on?
[12:45] <konfuzed> does ubuntu care if the bios is set to 'plug and play aware OS' turned on or off
[12:45] <konfuzed> knight488, is it USB?
[12:46] <bcnewman> is there a gnome equivilent of ksnapshot ?
[12:46] <UKMatt> does anyone have any idea how to do that?
[12:46] <knight488> konfuzed no, internal, I'm on my laptop
[12:46] <leafw> crimsun: ok
[12:46] <lib8264q> gclipper
[12:46] <cprog> hello all, is there any settings i can change so that i can connect to a box running XGL through VNC, but without VNC trying to use XGL?
[12:46] <keaton> bcnewman: yeah, it should be under the System menu
[12:46] <lib8264q> gnoime version
[12:46] <crimsun> leafw: as a note, both the US and Europe mirrors seem broken atm
[12:46] <konfuzed> knight488, then its most likely a matter of mounting the disk
[12:47] <Bassetts> anyone know?
[12:47] <knight488> konfuzed, know what the default device it should be listed as is so I could try to mount?
[12:47] <leafw> crimsun : I suspected so
[12:48] <whayworth> leafw + crimsun:  if you're referring to the mirror for flashplugin-nonfree from Macromedia, I can wget the .tar.gz from there
[12:48] <whayworth> as in it's reachable
[12:48] <whayworth> and can download
[12:48] <crimsun> whayworth: it's broken for many people, depending on route
[12:48] <lib8264q> can anyone help with my ?
[12:48] <whayworth> ah; figures
[12:48] <crimsun> I'm --purging to walk you guys through this.
[12:48] <konfuzed> knight488, dmesg | grep (brand name of drive device)     should give you the device name aswell
[12:48] <ProN00b> does anyone know a program that gives you a tv guide thingy ?
[12:48] <leafw> whayworth : I just got it from the adobe/macromedia website
[12:48] <keaton> Yo, does anyone know how to mount a PSP?
[12:49] <leafw> whayworth : but thanks!
[12:49] <whayworth> leafw:  as in fpdownload.macromedia.com?  you're welcome, by the way
[12:49] <bcnewman> keaton: a screen capture tool? (I'm running 6.06 BTW)
[12:49] <UKMatt> I'm trying to load a DVD onto my comp through Ubuntu.. does anyone know of a program that can decode it so that I can download through Acid?
[12:50] <Sjoerd-> Does anyone know how to install Network Manager or get a WPA wireless connection running?
[12:50] <whayworth> Sjoerd:  yes
[12:50] <whayworth> I just solved that this morning with an ipw2100
[12:50] <whayworth> one moment, I'll fetch the URL of the page that was very helpful
[12:50] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[12:50] <keaton> bcnewman: Maybe it's not there in 6.06, I'm running 5.10. Under the System menu there should be "Take Screenshot..."
[12:51] <Bassetts> how is the password change in terminal?
[12:51] <Sjoerd-> General 6.06 - HOWTO: NetworkManager with WPA 1&2 Support
[12:51] <EnsignRedshirt> Is it possible to get kernel 2.6.15 for breezy?
[12:51] <Sjoerd-> that thread?
[12:51] <zybrid> how do i replace my mysql5 with mysql4.1 ? i have lamp installed. apt-get remove mysql-server doesnt seem to work
[12:51] <crimsun> leafw: ``sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree'' should pop up a dialogue box asking whether you want to download the plugin from the Internet. Choose 'no'.
[12:51] <Ayabara> I have an inspiron laptop, and I think the fan is running louder in ubuntu than in xp. something I haven't configured maybe?
[12:51] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  http://en.magenson.de/2006/06/11/ubuntu-dapper-drake-and-wpa-encrypted-wireless/
[12:51] <leafw> crimsun : I said 'no'. Now I'm fighting nautilus to show me the file (never used gnome before)
[12:51] <skavenge> Bassetts; passwd
[12:51] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: Alright let met have a look, thanks!
[12:51] <Bassetts> thanks
[12:51] <whayworth> Sjored-:  no problem!
[12:51] <crimsun> leafw: it's much easier from a Terminal.
[12:51] <crimsun> leafw: Applications> Accessories> Terminal
[12:52] <knight488> hm I don't know the brand actualy...
[12:52] <lwizardl> hi can someone help me with static ips
[12:52] <leafw> crimsun : indeed, but the donwloaded file seems to vanish, because it's untarred
[12:52] <Ayabara> anyone here using truecrypt?
[12:52] <bcnewman> keaton: I don't see that, but thanks for looking into it for me. I know that the print screen key works, but I like the extra functionality that something like ksnapshot adds
[12:52] <leafw> crimsun : I see, "save to disk" xD
[12:52] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: The sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome doesn't work for me
[12:52] <crimsun> leafw: yes, choose Save to disk
[12:52] <whayworth> really?
[12:52] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: I have no internet connection
[12:53] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  I'll try to give you the package, if you'd like
[12:53] <whayworth> sorry for assuming that you did
[12:53] <keaton> bcnewman: you're welcome
[12:53] <leafw> crimsun : ok, now, update-flashplugin ..
[12:53] <dropdrive> is it possible to send keystrokes to gnome-terminal with, say, the mouse thumb buttons (6 and 7)?
[12:53] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: It's ok, it is an option to make my router on WEP and then try to connect and get the network-manager package.
[12:54] <whayworth> you're sure?
[12:54] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: Maybe that would be the best way, I already downloaded the installation package but I have no idea how to install it.
[12:54] <konfuzed> knight488, what does SD stand for again
[12:54] <crimsun> leafw: sudo update-flashplugin --local-file $dir
[12:54] <UKMatt> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:54] <UKMatt> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[12:54] <UKMatt> is only available from another source
[12:54] <UKMatt> E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate
[12:54] <zybrid> how do i replace my mysql5 with mysql4.1 ? i have lamp installed. apt-get remove mysql-server doesnt seem to work.
[12:54] <whayworth> Sjored-:  would dpkg -i work?
[12:54] <Ayabara> I want to encrypt my external harddrive. anyone got any other suggestions than truecrypt?
[12:54] <larson9999> sudo cd /mnt/win_c gives> sudo: cd: command not found  what's up with that?
[12:54] <rogy> i dont have premission to extract a file to /opt , what should i do?
[12:54] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: What is it?
[12:54] <konfuzed> knight488, try dmesg | grep SD
[12:54] <gnomefreak> rogy: use sudo
[12:55] <crimsun> leafw: where $dir is the directory containing the .tar.gz
[12:55] <whayworth> the dpkg command; installs a package
[12:55] <rogy> hmm, im a newbie :(
[12:55] <skavenge> my sd slot doesnt work at all according to the wiki/supported hardware on my laptop so that might be an issue as well
[12:55] <leafw> crimsun : yes, but a '.' didn't work ... needed ~/Desktop/ (go figure)
[12:55] <leafw> crimsun: it's in now, let's test it
[12:55] <knight488> sandisk
[12:55] <knight488> k trying...
[12:55] <whayworth> sorry, all:  I'll prefix all my responses with $username from now on
[12:55] <konfuzed> knight488, try dmesg | grep sandisk
[12:56] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: I have no idea, whould I try it? Or just use WEP to get the package and then upgrade to WPA
[12:56] <leafw> works. Thanks crimsun (in fbsd I never got it to work)
[12:56] <crimsun> leafw: np.
[12:56] <konfuzed> WEP sucks
[12:56] <knight488> konfuzed hm nothing...
[12:56] <skavenge> sandisk makes the cards, not the reader most likely in a laptop for sure
[12:56] <konfuzed> the FBI has a video showing people how to by pass WEP in under 5 minutes
[12:57] <curley_sue> anyone knows how to use an mp4 player with ubuntu?
[12:57] <EnsignRedshirt> Can I upgrade the kernel in breezy to 2.6.15?  I'm trying to get pptp/VPN working reliably, and the HowTo's that I have seen say to use 2.6.15.  Currenty I have 2.6.12.
[12:57] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  I thought you had said that you already downloaded the pckage
[12:57] <Sjoerd-> konfuzed: I know any noob can crack WEP
[12:57] <konfuzed> knight488, try dmesg | grep SanDisk   or SAN    or just disk   or maybe even disk
[12:57] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  in that case, you could use dpkg -i
[12:57] <konfuzed> uh maybe even disc
[12:57] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  otherwise, you should downgrade to WEP for the five minutes it will take, AirSnort risk or not
[12:57] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: Yes I have this on my harddrive: http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/NetworkManager/0.6/NetworkManager-0.6.3.tar.gz
[12:58] <Rhisc> hi
[12:58] <troutface> Hello. I'm working from Xubuntu livecd (6.06 daily build) Why is the hdd installer crashing?? Anyone?
[12:58] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  all right!
[12:58] <liquiem> troutface: because it doesnt like you
[12:58] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  then I think you should be able to "dpkg -i" it
[12:58] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: I  have read the readme and try to install, but didn't get it to work
[12:58] <leafw> by the way, java 1.5.0_07 gets terribly stuck at repainting every time I switch desktop.
[12:58] <ompaul> Sjoerd-, go to packages.ubuntu.com and get the real one
[12:58] <Ayabara> I need a good solution for disk encryption in ubuntu. anyone??
[12:58] <konfuzed> hey there a quick question about bios settings.  Should Plug and Play AWARE OS be on or off for the install
[12:58] <konfuzed> Ayabara, there isnt one
[12:58] <Rhisc> I need some help... I just downloaded dapper and when I go to install it after a while my screen goes blank and then dosent do anything...
[12:59] <rogy> what is the commans to extract a file to /opt with sudo ?
[12:59] <knight488> hm tried that and a lot of other things, nothings making results
[12:59] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  wait, oh dear
[12:59] <zybrid> rogy: sudo
[12:59] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  sorry, I just realized that you downloaded the sources, not the package
[12:59] <liquiem> Ayabara: try dm-crypt
[12:59] <zybrid> rogy: oh
[12:59] <digimars> hello
[12:59] <zybrid> rogy: what kind of file is it? tar?
[12:59] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: Should I download this file: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/network-manager-gnome
[12:59] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  you'll have a hell of an easier time downloading the package direct from Ubuntu
[12:59] <knight488> SD = Secure Digital, I was mistaken
[12:59] <liquiem> Ayabara: or some fuse based fs
[12:59] <troutface> Can anyone recommend a good Linux distro?
[12:59] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  yes, that would be preferable
[01:00] <liquiem> troutface: no
[01:00] <Ayabara> liquiem: thanks
[01:00] <anto9us> konfuzed, WEP cracking not so much a problem as awareness, one of the biggest security issues in the modern world is knowing what you're connecting to. It's easy to walk into a wireless zone with a laptop spoof an AP and hijack all its clients and credit card details. Clients need to no the details (mac address) of AP they're connecting to.
[01:00] <whayworth> troutface:  it depends on youre needs
[01:00] <ompaul> troutface, not possible
[01:00] <digimars> has anyone here successfully using a k7-smp kernel on a dual core AMD under 32 bit Ubuntu?
[01:00] <konfuzed> knight488, try dmesg  | less    and read every line until you find the thing. if its not there it could be that your problem is no drivers installed for the SD controller
[01:00] <whayworth> troutface:  *you're
[01:00] <whayworth> troutface:  **your
[01:00] <liquiem> troutface: please read http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html before asking another question, thank you
[01:00] <rogy> yes it is a tar
[01:00] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: Ok, it's a deb file, how do Install it now? Any hint before I launch ubuntu on this pc :) ?
[01:00] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  I think dpkg -i should work for it
[01:01] <konfuzed> anto9us, do you think this is a big or hard problem to solve??
[01:01] <troutface> All I want is  livecd that 1) Installs as advertised 2) has repository support for Nvidia kernels
[01:01] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: I use terminal to go to the folder it is in and then type: dpkg -i ?
[01:01] <gnomefreak> troutface: try ubuntu
[01:01] <gnomefreak> troutface: or talk about it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:01] <konfuzed> troutface, there is no repository support for nvidia any thing
[01:01] <anto9us> konfuzed, no, just be aware, that's all, it's a problem that plays on ignorance, like most hustles
[01:01] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  yes, that's what you would do for "dpkg -i"
[01:01] <troutface> Hmm you sure? ^^
[01:02] <gnomefreak> konfuzed: huh? i get nvidia from repos
[01:02] <konfuzed> troutface, you have to download that seperately. best to do so before hand to hae it on hand during the install
[01:02] <Sjoerd-> whayworth: Ok thanks, brb
[01:02] <gnomefreak> konfuzed: you get them in multiverse repos
[01:02] <konfuzed> gnomefreak, where? its proprietary
[01:02] <gnomefreak> konfuzed: multiverse
[01:02] <konfuzed> oh sure answer before I ask
[01:02] <skavenge> nvidia drivers are in the repos but they are not as up to date as nvidia's obviously
[01:02] <konfuzed> for the video or for the mobo-chipset
[01:03] <gnomefreak> konfuzed: enable multiverse than sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:03] <digimars> has anyone here successfully using a k7-smp kernel on a dual core AMD under 32 bit Ubuntu?
[01:03] <james_xxx> how long should it take gparted to format a 6GB HD to ext3?
[01:03] <chavo> james_xxx, a couple of seconds
[01:03] <liquiem> troutface: ubuntu desktop-cd has an installer and for nvidia, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:03] <anto9us> james_xxx, shouldn't take long at all
[01:04] <james_xxx> ok it has been 25 minutes LOL
[01:04] <konfuzed> gnomefreak, the previous ubuntu isntall did not setup the onboard nvidia ethernet port so repos are there fore useless
[01:04] <anto9us> james_xxx, there's a problem somewhere, cancel and look into it
[01:04] <troutface>  Okay, how do I install livecd (xubuntu). The included installer (desktop) only teases like a sexy girl pulling her knickers and then runs away! whatsup... sigh..
[01:05] <Joe_scorp> when i try and change games in solitare the game closes, can someone help
[01:05] <skavenge> the nvidia drivers in the repos he was referring to are for video
[01:05] <brent_> how is daper? for lap tops? or other low power things, mainly involving wep?
[01:06] <brent_>  and wi fi?
[01:06] <anto9us> troutface, I'm keen to check out that installer but I think it's as simple as "sudo apt-get xubuntu-desktop"
[01:06] <anto9us> troutface, correction "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[01:06] <troutface> brent becarefull dapper could be crapper
[01:07] <brent_> well I am holding out for the moment
[01:07] <brent_> I would  love a great simple fix
[01:07] <digimars> has anyone here successfully gotten a k7-smp kernel on a dual core AMD working under 32 bit Ubuntu?
[01:08] <brent_> but I have been working on it for so long,.. I kindofwant to know why
[01:08] <skavenge> there is nothing simple about linux heh
[01:08] <jhenn> how do u make a .torrent file out of files in ubuntu?
[01:08] <maikol> i have a fresh install and i need my kernel source. is m-a prepare all i need to run?
[01:08] <cyphase> :P
[01:08] <konfuzed> ok ubuntu.com has nothing about the bios. is there anywhere that comments about preffered bios settings or bios problems
[01:08] <brent_> well I was talking relitivly
[01:08] <anto9us> brent, wep works ok on wifi even with ndiswrapper
[01:08] <Joe_scorp> is anyone else having problems with solitare since last updates for dapper?
[01:08] <brent_> I am using mad wifi
[01:08] <cyphase> my main computer is getting an upgrade, so i took out my hard drive that has /home on it, and mounted it on a laptop as /home
[01:09] <cyphase> now i'm in my account
[01:09] <brent_> IT WORKS WITH OUT ANYTHING
[01:09] <brent_> i CAN'T GET WEP TO WORK
[01:10] <brent_> IDEAS
[01:10] <Rhisc> I need some help, when I go to install Ubuntu Dapper the CD boots but when the installer runs my screen goes blank and I cant see a thing
[01:10] <anto9us> brent, I've never used mad wifi, don't know mate
[01:10] <Rhisc> has anyone had this problem?
[01:10] <brent_> WHAT DO YOU USE?
[01:10] <brent_> ?
[01:10] <Madpilot> brent, stop shouting, please
[01:10] <skavenge> lower case thats  what we use
[01:10] <brent_> sorry
[01:10] <brent_> I know
[01:10] <anto9us> brent, on my laptop I just use the standard kit with ndiswrapper
[01:11] <liquiem> Rhisc: can you do alt + ctrl + f1 to get to a terminal?
[01:11] <brent_> had problems with caps
[01:11] <linuxuser> wonders if printer support will ever be improved in ubuntu?
[01:11] <brent_> fixed it
[01:11] <jhenn> how do u make a .torrent in ubutnu?
[01:11] <Rhisc> liquiem: I dont think it would help because I cant see anything, my monitor actually says no signal detected
[01:11] <brent_> o you use wep?
[01:11] <Ayabara> the fan on my inspiron is very loud in ubuntu. can I check the speed in some way?
[01:11] <pepinito> hi
[01:11] <aurelius> jhenn yea you can
[01:12] <Rhisc> liquiem: Maybe it has trouble recognizing my video card...
[01:12] <liquiem> jhenn: iirc every bt client can make a torrent-file, use one!
[01:12] <jhenn> aurelius: HOW
[01:12] <bina> jhenn: cant you do it through the client?
[01:12] <jhenn> no
[01:12] <liquiem> Rhisc: you could try it
[01:12] <jhenn> all ubuntu bt clients suck
[01:12] <bina> jhenn: i thought azureus did it
[01:12] <liquiem> jhenn: azureus can make torrent files
[01:13] <jhenn> bina: azerus = shit
[01:13] <darkfox> hi all
[01:13] <brent_> ok? help with wep?
[01:13] <liquiem> jhenn: language please
[01:13] <ompaul> jhenn, language please
[01:13] <Joe_scorp>
[01:13] <ompaul> !wep
[01:13] <ubotu> well, wep is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-10-07.0031507315
[01:13] <bina> jhenn: ok well, thats what i use - although never to make a .torrent - so I dont know, sorry :)
[01:13] <jhenn> stfd
[01:13] <darkfox> ubuntu installer is crashing with an XFS root :(
[01:13] <linuxuser> anyone with some information on how to install hp laserjet 1020 in ubuntu?
[01:13] <anto9us> jhenn, I think that very much depends on what application you use and the important issue is creating a tracker, I suggest some reading, most support docs are for downloading, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent
[01:14] <liquiem> jhenn: lol, and you want help? no, thanks
[01:14] <ompaul> jhenn, it was brought to your attention please read the next url I get ubotu to put out here
[01:14] <ompaul> !CoC
[01:14] <ubotu> rumour has it, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[01:14] <jhenn> liquiem: IM NEW U MUST ASSIST ME NOW!
[01:14] <dff> what can I do fro looking at gay cahat room?
[01:14] <dff> for
[01:15] <livingdaylight> Hi Guys! any of you use Flock?
[01:15] <ompaul>  dff want to be next?
[01:15] <ompaul> this is an IRC Support channel for Ubuntu software
[01:15] <livingdaylight> downloade and untarred but don't know how to complete the process from here
[01:16] <brent_> SO  is ever one dumb here?
[01:16] <anto9us> dff, freenode is dedicated to open source software projects, I think you'd have better luck on a network dedicated to chat
[01:16] <livingdaylight> ompaul: just thought i'd ask : (
[01:16] <ompaul> brent, I gave you a wep url scroll back and read it
[01:16] <brent_>  don't get me wrong if you want a goodprogect
[01:16] <srp> do the ati drivers work with the latest ubuntu?
[01:16] <brent_> ,...
[01:16] <darkfox> anyone got any idea why the installer crashes with an XFS root partition?  and if there's a workaround?
[01:17] <brent_> sorry my bad let me check it out
[01:17] <systest> what's the deb versions of "rpm -qa" to list all pkgs and "rpm -ql" to list the files in a package?
[01:18] <MrKeuner> (EE) fglrx(0): Fail to initialize ASIC in kernel. What am I missing?
[01:18] <HellDragon> l
[01:18] <livingdaylight> where can i take my non-ubuntu software installation quuestion?
[01:18] <kmilo> systest, dpkg -l
[01:18] <crimsun> livingdaylight: #linuxhelp, perhaps?
[01:18] <systest> kmilo: thanks
[01:18] <kmilo> systest, dpkg -L package
[01:18] <ompaul> systest, apt-cache search $value
[01:18] <anto9us> livingdaylight, depends, could be a million places, what's the non-ubuntu software?
[01:18] <ompaul> systest, apt-cache show $value
[01:18] <Jowi> ubotu, tell livingdaylight about compile
[01:19] <livingdaylight> anto9us: a browser called Flock
[01:19] <Rhisc> srp: I cant install ubuntu due to what I think is an ATI problem lol
[01:19] <systest> ompaul: thanks as well
[01:19] <digimars> anyone here successfully running a k7-smp kernel for a dual core amd processor in Dapper?
[01:19] <Sjoerd-> hello again :)
[01:19] <anto9us> livingdaylight, I think I've heard of that, let me check it out, I'll get back to you
[01:19] <ompaul> systest, you can have fun with all of that
[01:19] <briguyd> so my wireless internet wasnt working, so i went into the network-admin and deleted everything under DNS and Search Domains, what can i do to fix it?
[01:20] <MrKeuner> anyone here successfully running fglrx with latest 686 kernel in dapper?
[01:20] <Sjoerd-> I am receiving this error now while trying to install the network manager: Package libnm-util0 is not installed.
[01:20] <srp> Rhisc: my next linux choice is going to be based on whether or not the ati drivers work
[01:20] <darkfox> is launchpad.net the right place to file dapper installer bugs?
[01:20] <Rug> Howdy all
[01:20] <crimsun> darkfox: yes, though there about 300 of them.
[01:20] <darkfox> srp: ati drivers never work... your next gfx card choice should be based on that...
[01:20] <Dial_tone> sjoerd, how are you installing it?
[01:20] <nox-Hand> Hey
[01:20] <darkfox> crimsun: ok thanks
[01:21] <Madpilot> darkfox, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[01:21] <brent_> opal that command didn't work,... got to run for  sec
[01:21] <anto9us> livingdaylight, having queried chanserv with 'list *flock*' there's both a #flock and ##flock channel
[01:21] <Sjoerd-> Dial_tone: using dpkg -i ( I already found the other package though, think it just needs to be installed first)
[01:21] <srp> darkfox: i dont have the money for a new card, otherwise i would get one
[01:21] <Dial_tone> use apt-get
[01:21] <livingdaylight> anto9us: cool
[01:21] <livingdaylight> anto9us: i'll ask there
[01:21] <Sjoerd-> Dial_tone: Won't work without internet access, brb :)
[01:22] <MrKeuner> should i have a fglrx.ko under /lib/modules/... ?
[01:22] <Dial_tone> I can't get my Radeon 8500 driver to work properly either
[01:22] <Madpilot> hmm... Shift+PrintScreen used to take a nice screenshot w/ window border, just of the window w/ focus.  How would I go about finding the correct process and killing it?
[01:22] <MrKeuner> nox-Hand/ okill gimp
[01:22] <Madpilot> nox-Hand, try just clicking the X (close) button in the top-right corner of the main GIMP window
[01:22] <MrKeuner> nox-Hand/ pkill gimp
[01:23] <briguyd> anyone know a way to tell what should go under both DNS Servers and Search Domains in the DNS tab of network-admin?
[01:23] <jack|ass> Is there a way to make VNC in unix work like it does in windows, where i can walk away from my computer and access the desktop from elsewhere?
[01:23] <Jowi> !vnc
[01:23] <anto9us> briguyd, are you using DHCP or static addresses?
[01:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)
[01:24] <briguyd> umm
[01:24] <briguyd> dhcp, i think
[01:24] <jack|ass> perfect
[01:24] <jack|ass> !x11vnc
[01:24] <MrKeuner> jack|ass/ vnc works better than what's on windows
[01:24] <Jowi> :)
[01:24] <pepinito> is there a way to watch tv on ubuntu, which apps do you know?
[01:24] <anto9us> briguyd, if DHCP you can ignore them, they will be assigned automagically
[01:24] <brent_> myth tv
[01:24] <skavenge> gotta have a tv card but yeah its possible
[01:24] <briguyd> anto9us, then why doesnt it work any more?
[01:24] <pepinito> i have a card
[01:25] <darkfox> jack|ass: i think you're looking for 'rfb'
[01:25] <pepinito> but don't know about apps
[01:25] <existance> when i use rpm to install a package (i.e. rpm -i package.rpm) I get error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm.  Anyone know how I can fix this?
[01:25] <anto9us> briguyd, what doesn't work? dns lookup?
[01:25] <briguyd> anto9us, i think i might have static, then, because it was working before and there was stuff filled in there, then i deleted it in my frantic screwing stuff up rage
[01:25] <nox-Hand> Madpilot, MrKeuner: Cheers, but it just, after ten minutes, unfroze. It was rendering, and had frozen X.
[01:25] <darkfox> jack|ass: apt-get install rfb  ... then x0rfbserver on your desktop.  you can then use vnc from another machine to connect to it.
[01:25] <b14ck> the sound played by flash animation is very glitchy. should i update flash player? and how?
[01:25] <skavenge> pepinito; check out linuxtv.org
[01:25] <Madpilot> nox-Hand, not fun - I've never seen it do that before :|
[01:25] <livingdaylight> anto9us: can't see a channel called flock
[01:25] <anto9us> briguyd, are you connected to a router?
[01:25] <Mysta> hello, I just installed XGL/Compiz (all went well), BUT now I cannot launch Xchat IRC client right after install...
[01:26] <anto9us> livingdaylight, #flock
[01:26] <briguyd> im using wireless
[01:26] <z3ro0ne> how do i get my computer to use an external modem with an ethernet connection?
[01:26] <livingdaylight> ok, but i dpon't have access
[01:26] <briguyd> anto9us, there is no wired hookup on the laptop, only a slot for the wireless and a phone jack
[01:27] <z3ro0ne> or a usb
[01:27] <gnomefreak> Mysta: what do you mean you cant launch it?
[01:27] <laozi> Question for ya'll.  Ubuntu will freeze after shut down, it will go through all the shutdown processes and then hang at the end and not shut down my computer.  Its an IBM Thinkpad T21.
[01:27] <[sam] > what happens if i move a file to an file?
[01:27] <anto9us> briguyd, most wireless are configured dhcp to my knowledge although you can configure static and still connect to it but lose other settings like dns, reconfigure to dhcp and retry
[01:27] <z3ro0ne> can anyone help with that?
[01:27] <gnomefreak> [sam] : the file moves
[01:27] <Mysta> gnomefreak, thx. I mean everytime I double click the icon, nothing happens. I'm on a windows box now
[01:27] <briguyd> anto9us, h/o lemme try something
[01:27] <Rug> [sam] : it'll prolly overwrite the original file
[01:28] <[sam] > gnomefreak, I moved it, and accidentally moved to a file,not a folder
[01:28] <gnomefreak> ah we cant help much there
[01:28] <[sam] > and the moved file disappeared
[01:28] <MrKeuner> anyone here successfully running fglrx with latest 686 kernel in dapper?
[01:28] <skavenge> it will overwrite
[01:28] <MrKeuner> should i have a fglrx.ko under /lib/modules/... ?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> [sam] : reverse the command
[01:28] <[sam] > gnomefreak, how can i reverse it
[01:28] <liquiem> b14ck: dont use aoss or esd wrapper, it's a flash plugin problem
[01:28] <gnomefreak> [sam] : mv last/path/you/used first/path/you/used
[01:28] <[Wiebel] > what tools can I use to convert a dvd to mpeg ?
[01:28] <[Wiebel] > (home made dvd)
[01:28] <skavenge> its still the same file basically, just renamed, move it back and rename it
[01:28] <methecooldude> hi all
[01:29] <Elijah> LibClamAV Warning: ***  The virus database is older than 7 days. <--- How can I update this?
[01:29] <Mysta> gnomefreak, if I repeatedly open it and watch the system monitor I can see it enter the process list and then leave
[01:29] <kmilo> Elijah, from clamav
[01:29] <[sam] > will it get the file back? I couldn't find the file anywhere now
[01:29] <gnomefreak> Mysta: try #xchat or ##windows
[01:29] <briguyd> anto9us, yaargh, tharr she blows
[01:29] <anto9us> livingdaylight, I think they might have an homepage somewhere, although, and I don't want to appear rude, why are you trying out such an experimental app and seeking help?
[01:29] <Elijah> kmilo: how?
[01:29] <Mysta> thx
[01:29] <Elijah> kmilo: what command?
[01:29] <methecooldude> how do i become a channel op?
[01:29] <[Wiebel] > anyone?
[01:29] <Elijah> kmilo: clamav update?
[01:30] <anto9us> briguyd, well done mate! :)
[01:30] <kmilo> Elijah, I don't know, read the clamav docs
[01:30] <briguyd> the connection itself was set to static, changed it to DHCP and it lives again
[01:30] <Elijah> methecooldude: by a lotof sucking up
[01:30] <Rug> methecooldude: you don't
[01:30] <Elijah> kmilo: thanks for nothing
[01:30] <Elijah> brb
[01:30] <liquiem> Mysta: have you switched transparent backgrounds on?
[01:30] <z3ro0ne> how do i get my computer to use an external modem with an ethernet connection?
[01:30] <Sjoerd-> I'm getting the following error when trying to install network-manager-gnome via a deb file: Dependency is not satisfiable: libnm-util0 -- Then, when I try to install libnm-util0 I get this error: Failed to satisfy all dependencies (broken cache). What could be wrong here?
[01:30] <briguyd> anto9us, thanks!
[01:30] <methecooldude> ok then
[01:30] <[sam] > gnomefreak, i moved the file to a file,instead of a folder
[01:30] <[sam] > gnomefreak, and the file is gone
[01:30] <z3ro0ne> or how do i get ubuntu to use an external modem with an ethernet connection?
[01:30] <Mysta> liquiem, inside xchat? where are you referring to?
[01:30] <methecooldude> im using a live verson of ubuntu
[01:30] <gnomefreak> [sam] : this is why we advise using cp first
[01:31] <skavenge> [sam] ; the file you moved it to is gone as well?
[01:31] <gnomefreak> [sam] : mv is dangerous if you mess up i use cp than ill move it
[01:31] <liquiem> Mysta: i have not read the whole conversation, but your xchat doesnt run anymore or what is your problem?
[01:31] <[sam] > yea, it was a bad idea
[01:31] <gnomefreak> liquiem: windows
[01:31] <[sam] > had to download the whole thing again. lol
[01:32] <liquiem> gnomefreak: windows? that makes me confused, what do you mean?
[01:32] <Mysta> liquiem, I installed XGL/Compiz on my Dell D620 laptop (running Dapper) and now I cant launch xChat. gnomefreak I think I confused you, sorry.
[01:32] <z3ro0ne> can anyone help me
[01:32] <gnomefreak> liquiem: i think hes on windows xchat i was gonna help him but he said he was on windows
[01:32] <skavenge> anyone running a dell 1350 wireless nic?
[01:32] <[sam] > i'm on mIRC
[01:32] <andreasdk_> Anyone here that knows about xfce styling?
[01:32] <liquiem> Mysta: haha, thats what i guessed, hold on a sec
[01:32] <gnomefreak> Mysta: uninstall xchat and reinstall it
[01:32] <methecooldude> z3ro0ne ill try 2 help u
[01:33] <skavenge> andreasdk_; might try #xfce
[01:33] <z3ro0ne> i have a gt701 external modem
[01:33] <gnomefreak> andreasdk_: what about it?
[01:33] <briguyd> andreasdk_,  or #xubuntu
[01:33] <methecooldude> ok
[01:33] <z3ro0ne> its connected to the internet
[01:33] <methecooldude> ok
[01:33] <z3ro0ne> i just need to get ubuntu to find it
[01:33] <anto9us> briguyd, if you do need a fixe ip assigned to you machine from your router you can tell most routers to do so
[01:33] <methecooldude> ok ill ahve a look
[01:33] <Tommy2k4> to compile mplayerplug-in for opera must i --enable-x?
[01:33] <briguyd> anto9us, ok, thanks
[01:34] <liquiem> Mysta: gconftool-2 --type int --set /apps/xchat/main_window/background_type "0"
[01:34] <sloncho> hi. where I can find mythtv packages for 6.06?
[01:34] <bernier> hi, while running ./configure , i get that error:
[01:34] <bernier> checking for perl... /usr/bin/perl
[01:34] <bernier> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[01:34] <liquiem> Mysta: run that in a terminal as user and xchat should work again
[01:34] <krazykit> bernier: then install XML::Parser
[01:34] <bernier> how?
[01:35] <[sam] > hi krazykit
[01:35] <kmilo> sloncho, penguin liberation front
[01:35] <Mysta> liquiem, cool one sec let me try that!
[01:35] <joepaper> sloncho: mythtv 0.18 is in either universe or multiverse
[01:35] <anto9us> sloncho, they're in the multiverse repository
[01:35] <methecooldude> z3ro have u tryed device manager?
[01:35] <z3ro0ne> methecooldude, would you happen to know how to connect the modem using usb?
[01:35] <sloncho> joepaper: they are enabled, but apt-cache search does not show mythtv. there are only 3 lib packages, related to mythtv
[01:35] <krazykit> bernier: searching apt always helps ;-)  ... "apt-get install libxml-parser-perl"
[01:36] <anto9us> sloncho, do sudo apt-get update
[01:36] <methecooldude> yea jsut plag it in
[01:36] <bernier> thanks alot
[01:36] <methecooldude> but its linux ant it
[01:36] <z3ro0ne> its plugged in
[01:36] <lwizardl> anyone use exim ?
[01:36] <methecooldude> check if its in divice manager
[01:36] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  gosh!  sorry about the dependencies
[01:36] <methecooldude> device*
[01:37] <liquiem> i guess that worked for mysta ^^
[01:37] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  I'm looking them up in Synaptic right now to see if there's anything further that might be making the situation weird
[01:37] <mystamax> liquiem: That worked wonders, I'm talking to you from my laptop running XGL/Compiz over xCHAT! thanks so much
[01:37] <anto9us> lwizardl, I've used it briefly a couple of years ago, just ask your question though, someone else may know if I don't
[01:37] <z3ro0ne> what would it be called?
[01:38] <mystamax> liquiem: is this a known issue, can you shortly explain what was wrong?
[01:38] <liquiem> mystamax: np and dont change the background settings to transparent, that would crash xchat again
[01:38] <z3ro0ne> i see alot of usb devices
[01:38] <Azi_Dahaka> is there a way to make a broadcomm wireless nic work without using ndiswrapper?
[01:38] <cat> hey i have a question does ubuntu has waimea because i can't seem to find it with this source list,
[01:38] <methecooldude> ummmmm look for 1 that say modem
[01:38] <mystamax> liquiem: when you say, "don't change the background settings to transparent" are you referring to individual programs?
[01:38] <cat> im a little new to ubuntu but to debian i;m old,
[01:38] <cat> so anyone can help?
[01:38] <krazykit> Azi_Dahaka: yes, but the included driver is pretty unstable.
[01:38] <z3ro0ne> no its not installed
[01:38] <lwizardl> anto9us, ok
[01:38] <mystamax> liquiem: not compiz?
[01:38] <whayworth> Sjoerd-:  do you know if libnm-util0's dependencies in and of themselves are satisfied?
[01:39] <Rug> cat what is waimea?
[01:39] <methecooldude> o well try and find the drivers on the makers websiter for linux
[01:39] <lwizardl> how is exim compared top sendmail or postfix ?
[01:39] <[sam] > do you have to boot from a livecd to install ubuntu
[01:39] <Rug> cat: what is waimea?
[01:39] <lwizardl> *to
[01:39] <[sam] > is there any way I can install from dos
[01:39] <anto9us> Azi_Dahaka, unless it's listed as being supported by the kernel or on ubuntu.com as being supported then no
[01:39] <cat> is a window manager
[01:39] <liquiem> mystamax: no, just xchat. it's a known issue with xchat. but i cant explain you why xchat crashes. compiz/xgl is alpha stage, so dont expect it to be fixed soon
[01:39] <mystamax> sounds good
[01:39] <mystamax> thanks again
[01:39] <liquiem> mystamax: you can make xchat via compiz transparent without problems
[01:39] <Rug> cat: sorry, never heard of it
[01:39] <javaTard> Ugh, my server installed in all CLI, isn't there a gui. I see gnome is a package loaded
[01:39] <methecooldude> [sam] , there is a seprate install cd
[01:40] <krazykit> [sam] : install linux from dos?  not that i've ever heard of.
[01:40] <Azi_Dahaka> anto9us, where can i find the list of supported hw by the kernel?
[01:40] <z3ro0ne> ok i found it
[01:40] <[sam] > Krazykit, I don't have a cd burner
[01:40] <skavenge> anyone running a dell 1350 wireless nic? does it have to use ndiswrapper? everything i see on the wiki relating to it is hoary based ..
[01:40] <[sam] > Krazykit, that's why I was wondering if I could just use network to install it
[01:40] <z3ro0ne> its there methecooldude
[01:40] <methecooldude> [sam]  u can order 1 form ubuntus website for free
[01:40] <anto9us> lwizardl, my own preference is postfix, I have a functional server that has no problems and there's a good wiki page on wiki.ubuntu.com which I'll find for you if you don't know how
[01:40] <methecooldude> z3ro0ne ok download it then
[01:41] <z3ro0ne> download it?
[01:41] <methecooldude> the drivers
[01:41] <[sam] > methecooldude, aren't they losing profits if they do that
[01:41] <krazykit> [sam] : you can order a free CD from the website, or you could install it with floppies.  you'd need to read up on working debootstrap though
[01:41] <z3ro0ne> its installed
[01:41] <darkfox> [sam] : if you have a second PC and a network card that supports network booting then you can do a PXE / network install
[01:41] <krazykit> [sam] : haha, what profits?  ubuntu has a rich benefactor ;-)
[01:41] <anto9us> Azi_Dahaka, kernel.org might be worth a search although I've rarely visited there myself
[01:41] <lwizardl> anto9us, ok i'm trying to configure a full server (linux, apache, mysql, php, mail, ssl, etc)
[01:41] <methecooldude> g2g soz
[01:41] <z3ro0ne> device manager found it
[01:41] <skavenge> the man's been in space that out to tell you the loot he's got
[01:42] <jenda> I'm having trouble with one particular DVD. It played yesterday, after several attempts... but today, I just can't get it to. It always says 'no plugin to handle dvd:/ or wrong mrl syntax' or something to the effect. Any ideas?
[01:42] <methecooldude> rite u should be able 2 connect now
[01:42] <[sam] > krazykit, u mean from donations?
[01:42] <z3ro0ne> now how do i get my computer to use it
[01:42] <krazykit> [sam] : partially, yes
[01:42] <skavenge> [sam] ; the guy that started ubuntu is a billionare many times over to start with
[01:42] <anto9us> lwizardl, I think documentation is very new for that lot but should be superb very soon, I've not checked it out yet, my preference is zope, try wik.ubuntu.com
[01:42] <methecooldude> now that u will have 2 ask som1 else
[01:43] <init7> hello everyone
[01:43] <anto9us> lwizardl, sorry for typo, that's wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:43] <z3ro0ne> ok i got it
[01:43] <z3ro0ne> thanks methecooldude
[01:43] <liquiem> use the bandwidth you paying for!
[01:43] <z3ro0ne> you're a life saver
[01:43] <[sam] > what if everyone orders a few, won't they bankcrupt?
[01:43] <methecooldude> kk np z3ro0ne
[01:43] <init7> does someone maybe have an idea why the dapper release kernel -23 broke my USB Card-Reader support?
[01:43] <krazykit> [sam] : well, cds cost next to nothing, and not everybody orders some.  tons of people burn their own CDs
[01:43] <skavenge> [sam] ; there's a corporate side of ubuntu for companies and the like that does bring in money as well
[01:44] <WilliamCai> hello, does Ubuntu have a plan to certify any J2EE application servers? like WebLogic, WebSphere or even JBoss, JoNas
[01:44] <thoreauputic> methecooldude: it isn't all that cool to use things like "u" and "2" instead of actual words - and it makes it harder for people who have english as a second language
[01:44] <lwizardl> anto9us, thanks for the link i found a couple of things on it i can use so far
[01:44] <shrump_jimbo> [sam]  ubuntu's company has $10 million backup cash
[01:44] <[sam] > I guess it's just the postage cost
[01:44] <methecooldude> [sam]  they ask a minum of 6 to redistbute and remebmer theat linux is open sorce
[01:44] <Rug> thoreauputic: nicely played
[01:44] <z3ro0ne> how do i compile things myself?
[01:44] <anto9us> lwizardl, we're standing on the shoulders of giants my friend :)
[01:45] <Rug> z3ro0ne: what did you want to compile?
[01:45] <krazykit> ubotu: tell z3ro0ne about compile
[01:45] <methecooldude> soz 01 idn
[01:45] <[sam] > methecooldude, I guess their aim is small businesses
[01:45] <liquiem> z3ro0ne: ./configure; make; make install :)
[01:45] <z3ro0ne> just in general Rug
[01:45] <z3ro0ne> im new to linux
[01:45] <methecooldude> yea true [sam]
[01:45] <liquiem> z3ro0ne: or read the INSTALL file provided in the archive
[01:45] <Rug> z3ro0ne: the wonderfull thing about Ubuntu; you don't need to compile everything
[01:45] <Madpilot> [sam] , the aim of ShipIt is 'anyone' - I ordered 50 of the last version, gave them away to friends & at the local LUG
[01:45] <z3ro0ne> well its just something i figure i need to learn
[01:45] <hangfire> you can only install .deb files on ubuntu, right?
[01:46] <[koji] > hangfire: yes because it is debian base
[01:46] <krazykit> hangfire: you can convert rpm's with alien, but it's generally frowned upon.
[01:46] <Madpilot> hangfire, you can install rpm via alien, but it's not recommended - find a deb if you can
[01:46] <kmilo> hangfire, is the normal way
[01:46] <Rug> z3ro0ne: if you search in synaptic for the files that you want; there is a good chacne you can find it in there.
[01:46] <[sam] > Madpilot, how are they packaged
[01:46] <hangfire> ok, I think its better to convert from tarball to .deb
[01:46] <Madpilot> z3ro0ne, why? I've used Ubuntu over a year and never had to compile a thing...
[01:47] <krazykit> hangfire: well, a tarball might just be source code...
[01:47] <hangfire> oh
[01:47] <skavenge> right
[01:47] <skavenge> more than likely
[01:47] <Madpilot> [sam] , the ShipIt CDs? They're in a light cardboard 'wallet' thing
[01:47] <z3ro0ne> alright
[01:47] <skavenge> so 'converting' it isnt going to do anything
[01:47] <z3ro0ne> is there a book on ubuntu 5.10?
[01:47] <hangfire> Ive seen a book on ubuntu, check amazon
[01:47] <z3ro0ne> i need a physical book i cant stand scroll and squint
[01:48] <[sam] > madpilot, I just never believed there would be anything that is free
[01:48] <Madpilot> z3ro0ne, I think so - but 6.06 is the current version
[01:48] <Madpilot> [sam] , well, there really is :)
[01:48] <z3ro0ne> really?
[01:48] <z3ro0ne> wow
[01:48] <z3ro0ne> i ordered 5.10 like six or seven months ago and just got it two weeks ago
[01:48] <[koji] > there will be an official book soon
[01:48] <[sam] > madpilot, are they doing international shipping too? that'll cost a lot
[01:49] <Madpilot> z3ro0ne, there's an 'official' Ubuntu book in August, covering 6.06
[01:49] <Madpilot> [sam] , they'll ship anywhere
[01:49] <skavenge> do they even have to pay shipping? i dunno, may be a non-profit deal
[01:49] <gnomefreak> [sam] : august last i heard
[01:49] <z3ro0ne> cool i'll have to get it
[01:49] <anto9us> z3ro0ne, zoom is a possibility, printer is another, maybe cheaper than a book and more up-to-date
[01:49] <dibblego> is there a public repository of themes?
[01:49] <patty522> hello
[01:49] <thoreauputic> !themes
[01:49] <skavenge> for gnome? theres alot of websites
[01:49] <z3ro0ne> does anyone know how i can change the settings on a laptop so it wont ask for a password everytime i close the monitor?
[01:49] <thoreauputic> !tell dibblego about themes
[01:50] <gnomefreak> skavenge: you pay nothing as far as shipit is concerned as for taxes for you country thats up to where you are
[01:50] <hangfire> I just checked amazon, and there is "ubuntu unleashed" and "beginning ubuntu linux"
[01:50] <patty522> i was wondering if anyone could help me im thinking of getting a apple imac for my mum to use for the net but will ubuntu go on it
[01:50] <anto9us> dibblego, there are some themes in the repositories but best check out gnome-look.org
[01:50] <patty522> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8827925196
[01:50] <[sam] > madpilot, that's unprecedented
[01:50] <Madpilot> z3ro0ne, you can also get printed versions of Ubuntu's help files
[01:50] <gnomefreak> hangfire: its eh
[01:50] <patty522> is the place
[01:50] <skavenge> gnomefreak; i meant about ubuntu having to pay to ship them to you
[01:50] <joepaper> z3ro0ne: System->Preferences->Power Management
[01:50] <dibblego> ok thanks
[01:50] <hangfire> its eh?
[01:50] <gnomefreak> skavenge: yes they pay shipping costs ;)
[01:50] <skavenge> oh okay
[01:51] <gnomefreak> hangfire: its not really great its ok though
[01:51] <pepinito> firefox fonts look horrible!, is there a way to improve it?
[01:51] <z3ro0ne> i dont see a power manegment joepaper
[01:51] <Madpilot> z3ro0ne, check this out: http://www.lulu.com/ubuntu-doc
[01:51] <hangfire> which? ubuntu unleashed?
[01:51] <dibblego> gnome-look.org appears to be down
[01:51] <gnomefreak> hangfire: yes
[01:51] <hangfire> oh
[01:51] <anto9us> pepinito, you can overide all fonts in firerox preference
[01:51] <gnomefreak> dibblego: hold on a sec let me see something
[01:51] <init7> does someone maybe have an idea why the dapper release kernel -23 broke my USB Card-Reader support?
[01:52] <[sam] > now i c why ubuntu becomes so popular in such a short period of time
[01:52] <joepaper> z3ro0ne: strange, power management is on my desktop and laptop install by default
[01:52] <thoreauputic> [sam] : partly. It also happens to work rather well :)
[01:52] <skavenge> it was one of the first distrobutions that put a major focus on a 'desktop machine' versus using it for servers/business etc ..
[01:52] <Elijah> thoreauputic: you new to this channel?
[01:53] <Elijah> LibClamAV Warning: ***  The virus database is older than 7 days. <--- How can I update this?
[01:53] <thoreauputic> Elijah: hardly
[01:53] <anto9us> [sam] , I think it has a lot to do with ease of installation, use and support more than anything
[01:53] <Elijah> thoreauputic: any ideas?
[01:53] <Dial_tone> init7: install 25 and see if its fixed
[01:53] <eXistenZ> still banned?
[01:53] <ToHellWithGA> hi.  i used the live CD to redistribute my partitions so that I can put /home on a new drive.  what is the best method for copying the files and folders in /home to the new drive currently mounted as /temphome ?
[01:53] <thoreauputic> Elijah: do you need clamav ?  To protect windows users?
[01:54] <gnomefreak> i use w3m or links2 ;)
[01:54] <dibblego> ok
[01:54] <liquiem> Elijah: iirc that program is called freshclam, that updates the virus definitions
[01:54] <thoreauputic> Elijah: you don't need anivirus for Linux
[01:54] <thoreauputic> *antivirus
[01:55] <Elijah> thoreauputic: yes protect myself and window users
[01:55] <liquiem> Elijah: the config files should be in /etc or /opt/clamav, do know exactly
[01:55] <skavenge> we have enough bugs, viruses leave linux alone hah
[01:55] <patty522> i was wondering if anyone could help me im thinking of getting a apple imac for my mum to use for the net but will ubuntu go on it
[01:55] <Elijah> liquiem: freshlam wont run
[01:55] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: either cpio or tar should work.
[01:55] <init7> Dial_tone: I did today and it didn't help :/
[01:55] <Elijah> liquiem: freshclam wont run
[01:55] <liquiem> Elijah: what does that mean? no output, errors or something else?
[01:55] <Rug> patty522: if you are putting Ubuntu on it why buy a mac?
[01:55] <anto9us> thoreauputic, we are or we are because of who we all are, if you're immune doesn't mean you're not a carrier, antivirus is as important on Linux as the rest of the world
[01:56] <patty522> true
[01:56] <Dial_tone> how do i change the default CLI editor?
[01:56] <Elijah> liquiem: output is:ERROR: Can't parse the config file /usr/local/etc/clamd.conf
[01:56] <Elijah> liquiem: any ideas?
[01:56] <hangfire> Dial, what do you want to change it to?
[01:56] <Rug> patty522: build a cheap box yourself, and pocket the difference.
[01:56] <dibblego> Dial_tone, System->Preferences->Preferred Applications
[01:56] <liquiem> Elijah: nano -w /usr/local/etc/clamd.conf and look for a line with Example. if so, comment it out and try again
[01:56] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: cp -R could be used too, but I don't think it knows how to handle things like devices and sparce files so, if you have things like these in the old directory tree, you'll end up with a mess.
[01:56] <kmilo> Dial_tone, $EDITOR
[01:57] <thoreauputic> anto9us: true - that's why I asked if he was protecting other users
[01:57] <Elijah> liquiem: ok brb
[01:57] <bernier>  hi, while running ./configure for Gaim i got that error: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/715678
[01:57] <anto9us> thoreauputic, yes, more important on a server but we're all capable of forwarding infected emails
[01:57] <Elijah> liquiem: what do I comment out?
[01:57] <liquiem> bernier: install gtk+-2.x? :)
[01:58] <bernier> how????
[01:58] <liquiem> Elijah: the line with the text Example
[01:58] <Elijah> liquiem: there are 50 lines
[01:58] <kmilo> bernier, did you install libgtk2-dev ?
[01:58] <bernier> yes
[01:58] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: do i have devices in /home?
[01:58] <bernier> kmilo: yes
[01:58] <Elijah> liquiem: I place a # in fron of the word Example?
[01:58] <krazykit> bernier: are you sure?  it doesn't look like you installed the -dev package.  check to make sure
[01:58] <liquiem> Elijah: yes
[01:59] <Elijah> liquiem: ok brb
[01:59] <Elijah> liquiem: how I save that file? :P
[01:59] <krazykit> bernier: for what it's worth, there IS a gaim2beta3 deb out there...
[01:59] <ToHellWithGA> kmilo: i did $ sudo cp -r home/* /temporary/
[01:59] <liquiem> Elijah: ctrl + o (write out)
[01:59] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: the system doesn't put any there, but there's nothing preventing your from creating some.  So it all depends on what you've been up to.  Regardless, you should get in the habbit of using the right tools.  cpio or tar are the right tools for moving entire trees.
[01:59] <liquiem> Elijah: and exit is ctrl + x
[01:59] <Elijah> liquiem: ok
[02:00] <ToHellWithGA> the lost+found directory shouldn't break anything when i re-mount that drive as /home, should it?
[02:00] <bernier> krazykit where?
[02:00] <liquiem> ToHellWithGA: no
[02:00] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: i'll look into the man page for cpio.  thanks for the help
[02:00] <Elijah> liquiem: it says Error writing /usr/local/etc/clamd.conf: Permission denied
[02:00] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: the cp command you used did not preserve the timestamps on your files, nor their permissions.  so now all your files will appear to have been created just now.
[02:00] <ToHellWithGA> oh dear, i need permissions
[02:00] <liquiem> Elijah: you forgot the sudo infront of the command
[02:01] <liquiem> Elijah: sudo nano -w /usr/local/etc/clamd.conf sorry, my fault
[02:01] <Elijah> liquiem: yeas I did :P
[02:01] <krazykit> bernier: http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/deb/
[02:01] <Elijah> liquiem: ok its saved!  now run freshclam?
[02:01] <liquiem> Elijah: try it, if it still errors, post again
[02:01] <ToHellWithGA> thank you kmilo, ic56, and liquiem.
[02:01] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: use this: cd /home; find . -print |cpio -p /temporary
[02:01] <krazykit> bernier: you need to install gaim-data deb first, then gaim.
[02:01] <Elijah> liquiem: ok! now it says: ERROR: Please edit the example config file /usr/local/etc/freshclam.conf.
[02:02] <bernier> ha ok
[02:02] <liquiem> doh
[02:02] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: you need to give a couple other flags to cpio.  possibly -m and -d.
[02:02] <Elijah> liquiem: do same thing there?
[02:02] <liquiem> Elijah: yes
[02:03] <Elijah> liquiem: ok brb
[02:03] <Horuzlna> hi....  When my computer boots, my display (dell 2001fp) shows the BIOS perfectly well, with 80x25
[02:03] <thoreauputic> Elijah: why is clamav in /usr/local ? You realise the package is available in Ubuntu, right?
[02:03] <thoreauputic> !info clamav
[02:03] <Rug> How stable is XGL?
[02:03] <Horuzlna> but once I get into ubuntum,, it's 80x22 and the upper and lower lines are cut off
[02:03] <ubotu> clamav: (antivirus scanner for Unix), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 0.88.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 64 kB, Installed size: 200 kB
[02:03] <Horuzlna> it's not a monitaor adjustment issue
[02:03] <Horuzlna> I cannot figure out what it is.
[02:03] <Elijah> liquiem: now it says: ERROR: Can't create new file ./clamav-f58fd68748a4987f in /usr/local/share/clamav
[02:03] <Elijah> liquiem: what now?
[02:04] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[02:04] <j-linux> hello
[02:04] <Elijah> liquiem: it also says; ERROR: The database directory must be writable for UID 1000 or GID 1000
[02:04] <Rug> EnsignRedshirt: hello
[02:04] <Horuzlna> because, if I adjust the positioning, there's NOTHING THERE
[02:04] <Horuzlna> it's literally not being sent to the display
[02:04] <liquiem> Rug: xgl is alpha software, YMMV
[02:04] <Elijah> liquiem: ERROR: Can't download main.cvd from database.clamav.net
[02:04] <Rug> liquiem: still eh?  bummer
[02:04] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: i'm looking at the pass-through section of "info cpio" and do not see -m or -d as options
[02:04] <liquiem> Elijah: dont run it as user, update clamav as root!
[02:04] <Elijah> liquiem: what do I do now?
[02:04] <Elijah> liquiem: sudo freshlam ?
[02:04] <ToHellWithGA> they're hidden in a string of options without a description
[02:04] <liquiem> Elijah: yes
[02:04] <thoreauputic> Elijah: simplify your life by using the package manager is my advice
[02:05] <Horuzlna> please help me
[02:05] <init7> has anyone got an idea why my USB card-reader support got broken from the dapper release kernel till now?
[02:05] <jksd> hi, could anyone tell me what program I'd need to change pdf into bmp (or any common graphics file) and visa versa, or how to edit pdf files directly?
[02:05] <Horuzlna> I am on the verge of abandoning ubuntu
[02:05] <EnsignRedshirt> I just tried booting the 6.06 CD.  After some graphical stuff, it got to a blank screen, with a line at the top saying "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel."  Then nothing happened for about 10 minutes (until I hit ctrl-alt-del and rebooted.)
[02:05] <Elijah> liquiem: ok it seems be downloading now!  but it also says: SECURITY WARNING: NO SUPPORT FOR DIGITAL SIGNATURES
[02:05] <liquiem> thoreauputic: i just tried to install clamav and it errored out with post-install madness
[02:05] <EnsignRedshirt> Should I have been more patient?
[02:05] <Elijah> thoreauputic: what package manager ?
[02:05] <Horuzlna> I AM GETTING 80x22 and the bottom 3 lines are missing
[02:05] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: yes, since they don't take arguments, they are shown together in a single string.  They are, however, described each separately in OPTIONS section of the manpage.
[02:05] <Horuzlna> I cannot see what I am typing right now.
[02:05] <thoreauputic> liquiem: ah, bug report time then :/
[02:06] <Rug> EnsignRedshirt: do you have an USB storage devices connected?
[02:06] <freddyubuntu> I have insatlled windows xp after ubuntu, i have two hard disks.... i have messed up my Grub , I have been reading many tutorials to fix my grub  none of them is working....can a Nice Person please PM me and help me ?
[02:06] <thoreauputic> !tell Elijah about synaptic
[02:06] <Rug> any*
[02:06] <liquiem> thoreauputic: and that's for the first 2h or something i run ubuntu ^^
[02:06] <anto9us> EnsignRedshirt, yes, livecd can take a while to boot
[02:06] <Elijah> thoreauputic: yes I know about synaptiec
[02:06] <Rug> freddyubuntu: XP first, linux second
[02:06] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: [-0adlmuvLV]  is hardly a description
[02:06] <freddyubuntu> Rug , I know I did a misatke Now i  need help
[02:06] <liquiem> rug, i guess xgl wont be beta or stable until a year or more. and we have to wait for pixmap_to_texture
[02:07] <Rug> liquiem: thanks.
[02:07] <EnsignRedshirt> Rug: The only usb device plugged in and turned on are a printer and scanner.
[02:07] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: are you reading the cpio manpage?  page down to the OPTIONS section.  This manpage is 300 lines long.
[02:07] <ToHellWithGA> my "man cpio" is 34 lines long
[02:07] <EnsignRedshirt> anto9us: "a while" ?!
[02:07] <Rug> freddyubuntu: XP has a nasty habbit of doing that.  It's 'prolly isn't repairable.
[02:07] <freddyubuntu> I have a very math exam but thjis ubuntu has take many last two days
[02:08] <Rug> EnsignRedshirt: detact printer & scanner & try again, but be patient
[02:08] <freddyubuntu> it is very sad....
[02:08] <liquiem> freddyubuntu: duh
[02:08] <anto9us> EnsignRedshirt, yeah, depending on how old the hardware is
[02:08] <freddyubuntu> if nessecery I unplug the windows Hard Disk
[02:08] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: got an email address?  I'll email you the copy from my Ubuntu 5.x
[02:08] <darkfox> ToHellWithGA: info cpio -> invoking cpio -> options
[02:08] <ToHellWithGA> i'm finding more info using the website at gnu.org, ic56.  thanks for your help
[02:08] <freddyubuntu> I just want ubuntu back
[02:08] <freddyubuntu> all my books are in ubuntu
[02:08] <Dial_tone> how often do minor kernel revisions come out? say 2.6.15-25  to <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[02:08] <liquiem> freddyubuntu: reinstall grub with grub-install, your menu.lst should be there nevertheless windows overwrote the mbr
[02:09] <thoreauputic> Dial_tone: depends on security issues etc
[02:09] <freddyubuntu> liquuiem  please help me step by step
[02:09] <hangfire> freddy, can you go in and get them with the live cd?
[02:09] <dibblego> freddyubuntu, boot with the Ubuntu CD and restore GRUB
[02:09] <freddyubuntu> I guesss i have done those things
[02:09] <EnsignRedshirt> Rug, anto9us: Thanks, I'll try again. ciao.
[02:09] <Dial_tone> thanks
[02:09] <freddyubuntu> I am chatting with yuo in Ubuntu's live C
[02:09] <dibblego> restore the MBR
[02:09] <freddyubuntu> livee Cd
[02:09] <anto9us> EnsignRedshirt, amount of ram is important, needs at leat 256 for livecd if I recall
[02:09] <j-linux> freddyubuntu: if you have an emergency, you can use an Ubuntu live cd and still access your files on the hard drive with it.
[02:09] <liquiem> freddyubuntu: i have no idea what's the ubuntu way to do that :/
[02:09] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: maybe the data is in the info pages on your box?  Try "info cpio"
[02:09] <EnsignRedshirt> anto9us: The computer is a Pentium 4 w 1gig ram.
[02:09] <j3g> i am having trouble with sound on ubuntu....it says: ALSA snd_pcm_open error: No such device... it is a AC'97 audio card ... how can i try to get it fixed?
[02:10] <skavenge> anto9us; 192 mb
[02:10] <jksd> anyone know how I can change pdf to bitmap?
[02:10] <anto9us> EnsignRedshirt, maybe just slow on cd access for someone reason, I'd give it 20 mins or so before quitting though
[02:10] <freddyubuntu> anybody would please help me in Private Message?
[02:10] <freddyubuntu> I am so tired... i have math exam
[02:10] <anto9us> *some unkown
[02:10] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: the data is definitely in http://www.gnu.org/software/cpio/manual/ which was referenced in the man page.  i'm not too lazy to dig a little for myself.  thanks for suggesting a way to use the | command to feed the output to cpio.  cheers
[02:10] <EnsignRedshirt> jksd: If you are OK with the command line, check out the 'convert' command.
[02:11] <j-linux> freddyubuntu: if you need help accessing your files from the live CD, you can pm me.
[02:11] <liquiem> freddyubuntu: just run grub-install /dev/hda or what you drive is called and be sure /boot is mounted
[02:11] <skavenge> say you've got a dual boot win/ubuntu system and you wanna dump win there's no way to expand ubuntu to the rest of the drive without reinstalling is there?
[02:11] <jksd> EnsignRedshirt: no such command
[02:11] <enterusername> hi
[02:11] <enterusername> has anyone i9nstalled mythtv
[02:11] <freddyubuntu> my hda is windows hards disk
[02:11] <enterusername> with ubutu
[02:11] <freddyubuntu> how i can mount it as /boot  ?
[02:11] <enterusername> the database isnt being configured because it doesnt know the proper password for the root user
[02:11] <enterusername> any ideas how i can fix this?
[02:11] <anto9us> skavenge, is that with dapper, I'm confident I read 256 on the website
[02:12] <enterusername> Im having problems with the tables in mysql
[02:12] <EnsignRedshirt> jksd: It is provided with the Imagemagick package (I forget the actual name of the package).
[02:12] <liquiem> skavenge: you can expand the partition from a livecd and use resizefs to resize the filesystem, but it's dangerous
[02:12] <freddyubuntu> libquim:  grub-install /dev/hda
[02:12] <freddyubuntu> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[02:12] <liquiem> skavenge: you can use parted or gparted to use that, but if windows is located infront of ubuntu, bad luck
[02:12] <skavenge> anto9us; unless the website is not updated it says 192 .. just started downloading the iso
[02:13] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: you need: "cpio -pamd --sparce".  Possibly also -l.  Let me test it.
[02:13] <enterusername> anyone?
[02:13] <EnsignRedshirt> jksd: sudo apt-get install imagemagick
[02:13] <skavenge> liquiem; i see, and windows is there first ;/
[02:13] <jksd> EnsignRedshirt: K, thanks
[02:13] <nacho_wide> i just started using ubuntu today.  let me tell you - i love it.  is there a virus/spyware scanner for ubuntu, and if so, are they necessary?
[02:13] <EnsignRedshirt> jksd: No problem.
[02:14] <anto9us> freddyubuntu, if it's just documents you want may be worth booting off livecd?
[02:14] <liquiem> freddyubuntu: mkdir /mnt/ubuntu; mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubuntu; chroot /mnt/ubuntu; grub-install /dev/hda (CHANGE THE DEVICE NAMES TO YOUR SYSTEM!)
[02:14] <livingdaylight> is ti gparted? i want to resize my partition without loosing my ubuntu installlation
[02:14] <Rug> nacho_wide: it's not needed
[02:14] <liquiem> skavenge: bad, i know that acronis disk suite can do it, but it isnt free
[02:14] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: Yeah, this is the right flag list. "cpio -pamd --sparse".  You don't need -l to preserve pre-existing hardlinks.  Only to attempt to create new ones.
[02:14] <nacho_wide> Rug: neither?  and why not, because you should have it for windows
[02:15] <skavenge> ive got a cd drive and wireless internet on my laptop, apparently i need ndiswrapper and the windows driver and i dont see how the heck to get the driver back on the system if i wanna do a fresh install of ubuntu with no dualboot .. any suggestions would be appreciated
[02:15] <anto9us> skavenge, may be recommended amount that I'm thinking of
[02:15] <skavenge> anto9us; that would make sense
[02:15] <liquiem> livingdaylight: you risking dataloss if you want to do that! you can use gparted from a livecd to resize the partition and use resize2fs to resize the filesystem
[02:16] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: should i have a trailing "/" on "find . -print |cpio -pamd --sparse /temporary" to ensure everything goes into that directory, or will it happen properly without the extra "/"?
[02:16] <anto9us> skavenge, using external medium or a partition with that driver on should work
[02:16] <liquiem> skavenge: usb stick? burn a cd?
[02:16] <livingdaylight> liquiem: but i'll loose data? or i risk loosing data? what data in particualar, or anything at random?
[02:16] <liquiem> skavenge: or as anto9us mentioned, setup a extra partition where you copy the files
[02:17] <skavenge> cd is out of the question, i was thinking of trying to use my ipod heh but i'm sure that is another headache all together
[02:17] <liquiem> livingdaylight: you risiking it and all data from that partition.. one time for resizing the partiton and one time from resize the filesystem
[02:17] <jksd> Ensign: that's too complicated for me, is there a GUI?
[02:17] <Rug> nacho_wide: there are no virus's that affect Linux.   and IF a virus ever does get created, it can't bring down a system like on windows, the worst it can do is to your /home folder.
[02:17] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: Here's the final answer: ;-). Trailing slash won't make a difference.   cd <src>; find . -print |cpio -pamd --sparse <target>
[02:17] <rogy> where and how can i install mp3 decoder for totem?
[02:17] <ToHellWithGA> once i have this method whipped, how many partitions are useful?  i'd like to keep /var/www for future use as well
[02:18] <nacho_wide> Rug: and the same for spyware then?
[02:18] <anto9us> skavenge, yeah, I think ipod, unless ubuntu can natively see it as usb drive, I don't know I don't have one, would require network access for installation of support packages
[02:18] <Rug> nacho_wide: yes same thing.
[02:18] <freddyubuntu> hey guys I am in pain...
[02:18] <ToHellWithGA> i'm thinking a partition for /, a partition for /home, and a partition for /var/www will save me a lot of hassle during reinstallations
[02:18] <freddyubuntu> if u want to help me please PM me
[02:18] <freddyubuntu> my windows is on first hard disk
[02:18] <freddyubuntu> my ubuntu is on the second hard disk
[02:18] <XFR> Anyone check if mysql-common-4.1 is available?
[02:18] <freddyubuntu> I had RE-INSTALLED my windows after ubuntu
[02:18] <livingdaylight> liquiem: geez....so, would one need to be a daredevil to risk it? or just not care if one looses all
[02:19] <Rug> XFR: yes it is
[02:19] <freddyubuntu> now I cant go  back to ubuntu
[02:19] <ToHellWithGA> !tell freddyubuntu about flood
[02:19] <nacho_wide> cool Rug, thanks
[02:19] <skavenge> anto9us; yeah thats what i figured .. i havent run ubuntu since breezy, i know the ipod automounted for me but from there i dont know ive never worked with data off it just music
[02:19] <dibblego> freddyubuntu, google for restoring your MBR to be GRUB - it's gotta be a simple command or something
[02:19] <anto9us> skavenge, if it automounted under breezy then it sounds like a plan
[02:19] <freddyubuntu> i have read 4000 pages about it
[02:19] <freddyubuntu> i am so tired
[02:19] <liquiem> livingdaylight: i havent tried it yet, just with lvm testing volumes and that worked well.
[02:19] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: The desirable number of partitions depends on the size of your backup media.  Ideally you want each partition to fit in no more than one tape, so that, when you start an overnight dump, you don't arrive in the morning to find that it's been waiting half the night for a 2nd tape to be inserted.
[02:19] <freddyubuntu> none of them are working
[02:19] <ToHellWithGA> freddyubuntu: a lot of short sentences could be put on one line.  rather than ending a sentence every few seconds
[02:19] <anto9us> skavenge, copy the entire driver folder, not just the inf file, as a point of note
[02:20] <freddyubuntu> if u want to help me please pm me, i can not read your messages
[02:20] <freddyubuntu> it makes me more tired to read on pulbic room
[02:20] <freddyubuntu> pm me plz
[02:20] <dibblego> then go to sleep
[02:20] <ToHellWithGA> !beat freddyubuntu for not listening
[02:20] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, ToHellWithGA
[02:20] <livingdaylight> liquiem: what is the difference between backing up and doing a fresh install and resizing patitions there or doing it gparted method?
[02:20] <skavenge> anto9us; yeah i might try it once the cd is done downloading .. unfortunetly if it doesnt work i really have no way to get the machine back online ;/ good idea with the folder though, i'll try that for sure
[02:20] <LiteHedded> !samba
[02:20] <ubotu> samba is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[02:21] <freddyubuntu> liquiem, i am doing your thing.... it gives me error   chroot /mnt/ubuntu
[02:21] <freddyubuntu> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[02:21] <livingdaylight> liquiem: how do you know you've lost data?
[02:21] <liquiem> livingdaylight: backup saves your custom settings
[02:21] <liquiem> livingdaylight: if you see something like ERROR or CANT READ DATA or something, then you know ^^
[02:21] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: also, the more filesystemss, the more isolated the data corruption.  When your drive fails, the filesystem containing the bad sectors will be trashed.  The others will remain accessible.   Seems backup and fresh install is safer way
[02:22] <liquiem> livingdaylight: the best iead would be backup up the partition, resize it, reformat it and restore the files
[02:22] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: you've put a lot of thought into this.  do you do something computer-related for work?
[02:22] <skavenge> i'd feel alot better if i had a wired backup to the net in case in borks instead of just relying on trying to get wireless to work
[02:22] <darkfox> ic56: yeah so why does ubuntu default to 1 big partition ;/
[02:23] <liquiem> freddyubuntu: you had solutions, you didnt try any of them
[02:23] <anto9us> livingdaylight, also worth noting, a backup is only as good as a proven restore
[02:23] <livingdaylight> liquiem: yea...
[02:23] <liquiem> dont complain :)
[02:23] <eigenlambda> freddyubuntu: ???
[02:23] <livingdaylight> anto9us: a proven restore?
[02:23] <sjoerd_> hello there
[02:23] <eigenlambda> freddyubuntu: plz 2 not swear about a free system
[02:23] <eigenlambda> freddyubuntu: if u have a bug, file it on launchpad
[02:24] <anto9us> livingdaylight, test at least one random file can be restored before deleting the original
[02:24] <livingdaylight> ic
[02:24] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: for a small home system, /, /home, /var makes sense.  If you need to decrease the size of your filesystems further, /usr and /var/www are good places to separate things, as are places under /var like /var/spool , /var/news (if you carry usenet), etc.  Ubuntu defaults to one big partition because that's what newbies from windows understand.
[02:24] <livingdaylight> anto9us: since when do backups not restore?
[02:24] <B1zz> freddubuntu you have to understand some of the people here are new just like you do they wont have answers.  And also you have to understand that no one is getting paid to help.....its all volunteers
[02:25] <Elijah> liquiem: you here?
[02:25] <liquiem> ic56: doen swear ;) that are less experienced users :p
[02:25] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: yes, I work as a sysadmin
[02:25] <liquiem> Elijah: yes
[02:25] <Elijah> liquiem: thanks!  I now have clamscan working perfectly thanks to your guidance :)
[02:25] <skavenge> hm .. i wonder if i can extract the ubuntu iso, add my wireless driver, then rebuild and burn it
[02:25] <liquiem> Elijah: np
[02:25] <ic56> liquiem: "newbie" is a boo-boo word now?  Gosh!
[02:25] <liquiem> ic56: ;)
[02:25] <stealth1> how do i get s-video out to work on my laptop?
[02:25] <ToHellWithGA> would you advise against /, /home, /var/www rather than /, /home, /var ?
[02:25] <Elijah> liquiem: :)
[02:25] <anto9us> livingdaylight, since I've had numerous people give me a floppy disk with a mulititude of windows shortcuts on them confident that their business accounts information is on there, despite the fact there's tens of megabytes of data apprently on one floppy disk
[02:26] <stealth1> it works fine in windows
[02:26] <liquiem> skavenge: if you want to, you can, or course
[02:26] <ToHellWithGA> i don't know what else is in /var but have not had to hand-place or edit any of it yet and so wouldn't miss it in the event of a failure or new OS installation
[02:26] <stealth1> anyone?  it has an ati mobility 9200
[02:27] <stealth1> i tried installing the drivers from ati.com, but it just messed up the screen
[02:27] <stealth1> i dont want to have to go back to xp!
[02:27] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: it's a question of balance.  If /var/www is gonna be huge, then it makes sense to split it out.  /var is meant for files that get changed often.  For people who like to mount / read-only, /var is a good splitting point.  It's all described in teh filesystem standard (google FSSTND).
[02:28] <stealth1> please pm me if you can help me out, tia
[02:28] <salah> any idea how to burn a vcd?
[02:28] <livingdaylight> anto9us: ouch
[02:28] <freddyubuntu> have  any of u seen a CD Writer break inside ubuntu?
[02:29] <livingdaylight>  :|
[02:29] <freddyubuntu> i tried to write a BOOT CD , ubuntu broked my CD WRITER
[02:29] <nacho_wide> is there a way of setting up a partition that I can share between windows & ubuntu?
[02:29] <freddyubuntu> i just restarted when ubuntu hanged...
[02:29] <freddyubuntu> and now my cd writer doenst work at all
[02:29] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: somebody told me the filesystem standard was a good way to start undestanding linux.  i'm more for playing around and knowing just enough to get by than understanding.  that and it was a big .pdf if i remember correctly
[02:29] <dibblego> freddyubuntu, please go to bed - solve it the next day
[02:29] <anto9us> livingdaylight, it happens, I've been caught myself too, never trust a backup till you've restored from it and proven it works, that's my motto
[02:29] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: run "du -s /var"  (du = Disk Usage) on your current system to see how big the /var tree is.  If you think /var/www will grow to make /var double what it is already, then it makes sense for /var/www to be a separate filesystem.  The risk is that the smaller your partitions, the sooner they'll run out of space and you might end up w/ lots of unused space on the wrong partitions.
[02:29] <paracelx> can somebody please help, im new to ubuntu/linux and trying to setup snes9x and about to go crazy
[02:30] <darkfox> freddyubuntu: enough trolling for one night..
[02:30] <liquiem> nacho_wide: uhm, well, you can use ntfstools for ntfs read/write or use ext2/3 and use the windows driver from read7write access or you can setup a partition as fat32/vfat that can be access from linux and windows
[02:30] <Kibou> paracelx: zsnes > snes9x ;)
[02:30] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: FSSTND should be available as a .txt and you should be able to browse it quickly to get a sense of what the 5 or 6 big directory trees are all about.  You can read more as you need.
[02:30] <paracelx> i have downloaded it as well but it says it cant find a decent c compiler
[02:31] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: i could always use parted to resize partitions as needed, couldn't i?
[02:31] <paracelx> when i type ./configure
[02:31] <nacho_wide> so both will be able to access a fat32/vfat partition?
[02:31] <Kibou> a decent?
[02:31] <paracelx> just want to play chrono trigger :)
[02:31] <h3sp4wn> ic56: Can parted resize ext3 ?
[02:31] <freddyubuntu> i have put 48 hours on this problem... and now everybody is a bitch to me
[02:31] <liquiem> nacho_wide: yes
[02:31] <skavenge> snes9x used to be in the repos, you shouldnt need to compile
[02:31] <freddyubuntu> fuck you
[02:31] <freddyubuntu> bye
[02:31] <paracelx> i think something like that im booting up my laptop right now and ill let you know exact
[02:31] <liquiem> h3sp4wn: yes, it can, but just to the right side
[02:31] <ToHellWithGA> i loathe reading on monitors rather than paper.  it makes me a bad hippie to print my docs but also allows me to read about features of my desktop installation while drinking wine in the park :D
[02:31] <Kibou> paracelx: did you install build-essential?
[02:32] <nacho_wide> liquiem: thx.  any partition program that you suggest in particular?
[02:32] <paracelx> all i installed was the latest version of ubuntu and then did the liveupdate
[02:32] <discombobulated> does Ubuntu use Xfree86 4.3 ?
[02:32] <h3sp4wn> lisquiem what can ?
[02:32] <discombobulated> or X.org?
[02:32] <LjL> discombobulated: ubuntu uses Xorg
[02:32] <Kibou> paracelx: well install build-essential and I think zsnes needs nams as well
[02:32] <liquiem> nacho_wide: (g)parted is fine, just make a partition for it and make a fs on it
[02:32] <discombobulated> oh, ok thanks
[02:32] <Kibou> nasm*
[02:32] <paracelx> ok thanks ill look for them now
[02:32] <zquirm> Hi. I'm running ubuntu server, in console mode; no X. I have a DELL 2001fp, and when the system boots up, the video mode is the standard 640x480 @ 60hz. All is well. Yet, the moment the linux kernel loads, it switches into 640x350 @ 70hz.. This makes the console unusable, as you can't see the whole thing.
[02:32] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: I've never resized a unix partition.  But there are such beasts as resizable partitions, at least in AIX, dunno about Linux.  Anyway, if you have backup media, trashing your disk and re-partitioning is easy.
[02:33] <nacho_wide> liquiem: fs?
[02:33] <darkfox> no point in messing around with parted to resize partitions... do it right and use LVM :/
[02:33] <h3sp4wn> lisquiem: Can I make a 250gb linux partition into 2 125mg's easily ?
[02:33] <zquirm> What can be done?
[02:33] <liquiem> h3sp4wn: resizing contains of 2 parts. resizing the partition and resizing the filesystem.
[02:33] <paracelx> bbl to let u know if works thanks again
[02:33] <LjL> ic56: you *can* resize ext3 with parted
[02:33] <liquiem> nacho_wide: fs = filesystem
[02:33] <zquirm> Ugh, I'm starting to get really upset about this. I've been asking for hours.
[02:34] <ic56> h3sp4wn: I have never used parted. LjL claims it *can* resize ext3
[02:34] <ic56> thanks, LjL
[02:34] <nacho_wide> liquiem: ok.  great, thanks
[02:34] <LjL> ic56, h3sp4wn: of course i cannot guarrantee that it's a safe process. but i did try it, and it worked for me. i recommend using GParted for a reasonably easy GUI
[02:34] <liquiem> zquirm: have you changed your boot cmdline or framebuffer?
[02:34] <nacho_wide> anyone know why www.winehq.com doesn't work?
[02:34] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: with DVD-RW as backup media it is tedious and unpleasant to backup my data.  i have already moved my space-hungry media to a separate drive, mounted as /largedrive, but still have a good deal of things on the main drive.  thanks for your help today.
[02:35] <zquirm> liquiem: no.
[02:35] <anto9us> zquirm, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and enter your monitor settings
[02:35] <liquiem> anto9us: no X ;)
[02:35] <skavenge> he's cli
[02:35] <zquirm> anto9us: You didn't read what I wrote.
[02:35] <LjL> zquirm: there is a "vesa=" kernel parameter and a "vga=" kernel parameter that you can try
[02:35] <darkfox> ToHellWithGA: if you use LVM you can change partition sizes pretty much whenever you want, add new disks and have partitions spread over multiple disks etc etc.... http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[02:35] <Gullstad> How do I setup a SSH-connection to the Ubuntu-Desktop?
[02:35] <h3sp4wn> LiL: I will try it then (I want to convert the whole disk to UFS2 really switching the machine to FreeBSD
[02:35] <Lukian_> h3sp4wn: can i have the other 249.75gb ?
[02:35] <anto9us> zquirm, sorry, no, just the last bit
[02:35] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: you're welcome. Just how many DVDs does it take to backup everything except /largedrive on your system?
[02:36] <liquiem> zquirm: can you post the output of cat /proc/cmdline?
[02:36] <zquirm> in the system BIOS, it's perfectly fine at 640x480... if I boot off a DOS boot disk, it's perfectly fine; 640x480 ... yet, the MOMENT the linux kernel loads, it goes into this unusable 640x350
[02:36] <init7> has anyone maybe got an idea why my USB Card-Reader doesn't work anymore since the dapper release kernel?
[02:36] <zquirm> liquiem: sure
[02:36] <darkfox> nacho_wide: do you mean www.winehq.org?  works for me
[02:36] <LjL> zquirm: http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/Kernel_parameters  not too good, but it should give a clue as for the syntax of those kernel parameters
[02:36] <cassio> hi everybody! i'm into breezy and want to use my sony digicam! how can i connect it? usb is not recovering the cam when i plug it
[02:37] <stazich> hi, ia am trying to get X to start, and seem to be following through the directions as stated on the sites and people have luck with but i keep having same problem.. i believe the error is to do something with the fonts. like i dont have any. does anyone know how to fix this? the machine is imac ppc btw
[02:37] <nacho_wide> darkfox: yeah.  i can't seem to connect.  to either .com or .org, just tried
[02:37] <Lukian> cassio: use a card reader
[02:37] <stazich> the error message that i get is: could not open default font "fixed"
[02:37] <zquirm> root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[02:37] <livingdaylight> Guys! don't be mad at me, but i'm actually downloading SUSE 10.1 DVD. I do love Ubuntu though. I just need to play the field...
[02:38] <liquiem> nacho_wide: try http://<IP_ADDRESS> ^^
[02:38] <nacho_wide> liquiem: (g)parted and QTParted the same?
[02:38] <cassio> Lukian, how? what's this?
[02:38] <LjL> zquirm: i suggest (not knowing any better) that you try the "vga=ask" parameter. that one should show a menu at boot up where you can choose the resolution. next time you'll know exactly what number to put after "vga=" for the desired resolution
[02:38] <brent_>  what the hell is this line?
[02:38] <liquiem> nacho_wide: it's the same, just different toolkits for the gui
[02:38] <zquirm> LjL: but it should work without that
[02:38] <nacho_wide> ok
[02:38] <livingdaylight>  '<
[02:38] <LjL> zquirm: eh, it should, but apparently it doesn't. what should i say?
[02:38] <zquirm> I just want linux to use a regular old console mode
[02:38] <zquirm> like it always has
[02:39] <LjL> zquirm: "vga=xyz" *is* regular console mode, although "vesa=xyz" on the other hand is intended, i think, for making it use the framebuffer
[02:39] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: three.  i'm getting some errors when running that cpio command.  i've pastebinned them at http://thestonepedo.pastebin.ca/66695
[02:39] <brent_> and has it disapointed you?
[02:39] <liquiem> zquirm: that means it fails for sudden?
[02:39] <Kibou> it shouldn't change the resolution at all.. something is borked
[02:39] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: looking...
[02:39] <zquirm> liquiem: sorry I didn't understand, sudden what?
[02:39] <Lukian> zquirm: then install 'server'
[02:40] <chapium> :(
[02:40] <cassio> hi everybody! i'm into breezy and want to use my sony digicam! how can i connect it? usb is not recovering the cam when i plug it
[02:40] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: it looks like it's trying to make a directory called "." and choking on it
[02:40] <liquiem> zquirm: does it happen everytime or just since a few days or something?
[02:40] <LjL> Lukian: why?
[02:40] <chapium> Does anyone know how to troubleshoot microphone issues?
[02:40] <zquirm> Lukian: 'server' ?
[02:40] <forevernoob> i am trying to get sounds to work.. i can get standard sound.. but i want the cool 5.1 digital out to work as well... any tips?
[02:40] <zquirm> liquiem: It happens since I brought the box to the place where it needs to reside
[02:40] <darkfox> stazich: sudo apt-get install xfonts-base xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-scalable
[02:40] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: oh, yeah.  you should run this command as root.  Both the find and the cpio need to be root.  Easiest if you "sudo su" and then issue the ocmmand.
[02:40] <zquirm> another analog display was able to handle this mode, it seems, without cutting anything off
[02:40] <Lukian> install a server distro, you shouldn't get any unneeded extras like this giving you hassle? :p
[02:40] <brent_> cassio, I am not sure on your machine? but maybe youshould tell peple so they can help?
[02:41] <Bassetts> can someone help me, i am getting errors when trying to run a java script
[02:41] <LjL> ic56: nitpick: "sudo -i" or, sometimes, "sudo -s" is adviceable over "sudo su", which is redundant
[02:41] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: it's because /temporary is owned by root (as it should be)
[02:41] <chapium> java or js?
[02:41] <anto9us> cassio, I've found some cameras don't mount properly on Linux or their memory sometimes needs reformating under Linux if the media is removable
[02:41] <Bassetts> chapium: its a .jar
[02:41] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: would "sudo find . -print |sudo cpio -pamd /temporary" do the trick as well?
[02:41] <Samus_Aran> are there any repositories that keep WINE somewhat up-to-date ?  it's currently 10 versions behind
[02:42] <cassio> brent_, i'm into breezy, pIII with 192 mb ram, using xfce
[02:42] <liquiem> zquirm: uhm, no idea, sorry. last bet would be look into dmesg if there something strange in it
[02:42] <LjL> !tell Samus_Aran about wine
[02:42] <ToHellWithGA> Samus_Aran: you could always build from source
[02:42] <cassio> anto9us, i'm using only the internal memory
[02:42] <brent_> uh, ok what was the question again?
[02:42] <LjL> ToHellWithGA, Samus_Aran: no need, those packages are quite up to date
[02:42] <Samus_Aran> ToHellWithGA: the primary reason I switched to Ubuntu was for its very large repository of pre-built packages
[02:42] <anto9us> cassio, does lsusb show the device?
[02:42] <ic56> LjL: I know.  Since I grew up with su, I find it easier to remember.  I'd rather not accidentally advise someone to use the wrong sudo flag.
[02:42] <liquiem> Samus_Aran: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine
[02:42] <ToHellWithGA> or use qemu if you'd be better suited by emulation of an actual windows OS (which you'd have to provide) than by WINE
[02:43] <zquirm> liquiem: yeah, thanks for trying to help, I'm just stumped and annoyed ;/
[02:43] <LjL> ic56: i see
[02:43] <forevernoob> is there a way to get ubuntu to reprobe my sound card to see if i can get it to work
[02:43] <nacho_wide> anyone know why my totem won't play a DVD?
[02:43] <Samus_Aran> ToHellWithGA: I don't have tieme anymore for building source, I've spent the past six years doing so =p
[02:43] <Samus_Aran> liquiem: will take a look, thanks
[02:43] <ThePub> silly question, where's the configuration for what's on the desktop (i.e. what drives, etc) under gnome?
[02:43] <ToHellWithGA> nacho_wide: have you enabled multiverse?
[02:43] <forevernoob> nacho: do you have libdvd installed?
[02:43] <liquiem> Samus_Aran: then you havent learned the basics ;)
[02:43] <liquiem> like asking google or looking into the wikis out there
[02:43] <ToHellWithGA> Samus_Aran: a few minutes after six years should be a drop in the pond to you :D
[02:43] <cassio> anto9us, yes it does :)
[02:43] <crimsun> forevernoob: what's the issue w/ your sound?
[02:44] <jdrake> With the recent updates that have shown up in the updater, a lot of gnome stuff is there - has anyone had any problems with these?
[02:44] <skavenge> wine is updated pretty regularly i dont think i've ever used a distro that was anything  near up to date heh
[02:44] <nacho_wide> ToHellWithGA: not yet, just a sec
[02:44] <forevernoob> crimsum:  just installed new card.  it works (sort of) but can't get optical out to work
[02:44] <anto9us> cassio, dmesg should list what happens (and any errors) when you plug it in
[02:44] <Samus_Aran> liquiem: I haven't slept in over 36 hours at the moment .. I was already on IRC.  I don't currently have my web browser handy, Ubuntu keeps uninstalling Opera (it thinks it is broken, because of a virtual package)
[02:44] <liquiem> forevernoob: cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp ^^
[02:44] <darkfox> debian unstable wine is 0.9.12 vs winehq.org's 0.9.14
[02:44] <brent_> ok so I am going to suck it up,... kids who know flux I want aterm to work with what I tell it to but I can't find where to tell it too,... helpplease
[02:44] <LjL> liquiem: well, you're obviously right about the google thing, but honestly it didn't take me much hassle to type "!tell Samus_Aran about wine"
[02:44] <crimsun> forevernoob: which card?
[02:45] <nacho_wide> ToHellWithGA: how do I enable?
[02:45] <Samus_Aran> ToHellWithGA: but I want it to be updatable automatically.  it's a time-comittment thing, as WINE has new versions very often, and it is a verrrrrry slow compile, heh
[02:45] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: no, quoting the pipeline to pass it to sudo won't work.  There are ways around this but why bother? Just sudo -i and you save yourself having to eval and escape your way out of a sea of complications.
[02:45] <liquiem> LjL: i dont know the public commands until now ;)
[02:45] <Bassetts> when i try to run a java script i get "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/jibble/logbot/LogBotMain"
[02:45] <zquirm> oh, one little thing of significance
[02:45] <forevernoob> crimsum: don't laugh but it is called a dynex dx-sc51.... but it has the chipset  VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT]  PCI Multi-Channel Audio Controller (rev 01)
[02:45] <zquirm> this happens the moment the ubuntu install disk boots as well
[02:45] <ToHellWithGA> !multiverse
[02:45] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[02:45] <zquirm> not just my actual install
[02:45] <zquirm> does the same thing in a liveboot
[02:45] <ToHellWithGA> there ya go, nacho_wide ^
[02:46] <ThePub> Bassetts:  there's a problem with how you're running your java :)
[02:46] <crimsun> forevernoob: snd_ice1724 should work just fine. Are you using the plug:iec958 output?
[02:46] <LjL> Samus_Aran: trust me, those packages are faily well up to date, you can get them with apt-get, and have your coffee ;)
[02:46] <Samus_Aran> if someone knows how to get Opera to stop uninstalling every time I install anything, would be nice.  it is built for the previous release of Ubuntu, which had a virtual package which just set the package manager to download two libraries ... which are included now in the 6.06 release
[02:46] <Bassetts> ThePub: how do i fix it
[02:46] <ThePub> Bassetts:  probably put the classpath in wrong when you setup your java command.
[02:46] <crimsun> forevernoob: and did you install alsa-tools-gui to use envy24control?
[02:46] <brent_> you kids helping casio?]
[02:46] <forevernoob> crimsun: you just lost me...
[02:46] <Bassetts> ThePub: so how do i change that
[02:46] <LiteHedded> when I go to mount a samba share why does it want the username to be guest?
[02:46] <forevernoob> crimsun: nope i will install now though
[02:46] <ThePub> Bassetts:  don't ask me, it's going to be specific to whatever you were running.
[02:46] <Bassetts> ThePub: ok =(
[02:46] <harri3844> where is the public key for dapper's apt repository located?
[02:46] <LiteHedded> it's greyed out and I cant change it when mapping it on windows
[02:47] <LjL> !key
[02:47] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, LjL
[02:47] <darkfox> samus_aran: can you not just sudo apt-get remove opera  ?
[02:47] <Samus_Aran> darkfox: I want it installed !
[02:47] <EnsignRedshirt> anto9us: I tried booting the 6.06 CD again, and this time waited 25 minutes. Still nothing.
[02:47] <Samus_Aran> darkfox: I want it to stop being removed
[02:47] <cassio> anto9us, it doesn't (or i don't understand it...)
[02:47] <nacho_wide> ToHellWithGA: there i go what?  i'm lost
[02:47] <Samus_Aran> darkfox: it has all the libraries it requires, except for a container-package that is no longer in existence, but the things in it are
[02:47] <nacho_wide> ToHellWithGA: got it, nm
[02:48] <harri3844> LjL: is there a key on this site?
[02:48] <anto9us> EnsignRedshirt, add some boot parameters like apic=off and acpi=off, if i have the semantics of thsoe correct, I think I do
[02:48] <Samus_Aran> is 6.06 breezy or dapper or what ?
[02:48] <ToHellWithGA> nacho_wide: after doing that, open up synaptic and search for "dvd" and you'll likely find the packages you need to watch DVDs.  cheers.
[02:48] <LjL> harri3844: no. i believed that ubotu had a "key" factoid, but it doesn't.
[02:48] <darkfox> samus_aran: oh sorry :)  in that case you should be able to unpack the .deb, change the depends line, rebuilt it and install that.
[02:48] <skavenge> dapper
[02:48] <anto9us> cassio, can you pastebin them?
[02:48] <jighead> LiteHedded, can you access the share from other machines? is the share on the win box setup as guest-only
[02:48] <LjL> harri3844: i'm trying to find the place
[02:48] <Samus_Aran> darkfox: can you point me in the direction of how to do that ?
[02:48] <LiteHedded> it's shared on linux
[02:48] <harri3844> LjL: ok
[02:48] <LiteHedded> not windows
[02:48] <LiteHedded> with samba
[02:48] <Dreamglider> on FAT32 is 4gb the biggest filesize possible ?
[02:49] <cassio> anto9us, where?
[02:49] <anto9us> Dreamglider, from memory, yes, that's right
[02:49] <Samus_Aran> Dreamglider: that is the maximum biggest file size, heh
[02:49] <anto9us> !pastebin
[02:49] <ubotu> Please do not flood the channel http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ for pasting long texts it does not disrupt the channel. [webboard for Ubuntu: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269 : not an offical package] .
[02:49] <Samus_Aran> Dreamglider: sometimes it is half that, though
[02:49] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: this would work:  sudo sh -c '<pipeline of commands>'
[02:49] <liquidten2> Dreamglider:  Yes, either 2GB or 4GB files are the largest, depending on the block count.
[02:49] <liquidten2> (form memory)
[02:49] <liquiem> Dreamglider: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat32
[02:49] <zquirm> What's the right way to use a static IP and stop using dhcp ?
[02:49] <darkfox> Samus_Aran,: trying to find a reference, but there are other workarounds here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185985
[02:50] <discombobulated> how do I start terminal from a window, so I dont have to keep CD'ing?
[02:50] <LiteHedded> why can't i authenticate with samba?
[02:50] <Samus_Aran> Dreamglider: discombobulated: kdesu konsole
[02:50] <alpha255> LiteHedded: did you do smbpasswd -a user on the server?
[02:50] <brent_> I will be back later,
[02:50] <anto9us> cassio, sorry, that factiod isn't very good, pastebin,org is the site, it will give you a link of the text you paste
[02:50] <LjL> zquirm: in theory, the best way would be to make it from the Gnome GUI preferences. otherwise, if that fails, i guess /etc/network/interfaces
[02:50] <Samus_Aran> er, not you Dreamglider
[02:50] <darkfox> Samus_Aran: and for the approach i was talking about, you can see an example of how to do it for skype here: http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?p=169829&highlight= ... should be easy to adapt
[02:50] <MrSiggler> The latest version of the fglrx ati drivers in Ubuntu do not work with R200 based Radeons, which I have. Is there a way to install an older version using synaptec, etc?
[02:50] <chapium> anyone able to get their mic working?
[02:51] <zquirm> LjL: is there a ncurses configger?
[02:51] <discombobulated> Samus_Aran: eh?
[02:51] <zquirm> no X
[02:51] <jighead> LiteHedded, are you mounting from a windows bos or another linux box?
[02:51] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: by pipeline you mean "command1 options |command2 options |... |commandN options"?
[02:51] <LiteHedded> from windows
[02:51] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: yes
[02:51] <LjL> zquirm: i don't think so. but if you have no X, then i guess just go straight to /etc/network/interfaces. if you hold on a minute i'll paste you my configuration, the syntax is easy
[02:51] <alpha255> LiteHedded: xp or win me , 98 95
[02:51] <LiteHedded> jighead: mounting from windows xp
[02:51] <harri3844> LjL: I found it
[02:51] <harri3844> LjL: thanks anyways
[02:51] <LiteHedded> alpha255: mounting from windows xp :)
[02:51] <LjL> harri3844: cool. i didn't
[02:52] <alpha255> LiteHedded:  did you setup the account on the linux server?
[02:52] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: do i exit a sudo su using exit?
[02:52] <LjL> zquirm: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/15884
[02:52] <jighead> LiteHedded, can you pastebin your smb.conf file
[02:52] <liquiem> zquirm: the configger is nano or vi ;)
[02:52] <ToHellWithGA> nevermind, i just did
[02:52] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: yes on exit sudo su  too.
[02:52] <anto9us> cassio, sorry, make that pastebin.com
[02:52] <LiteHedded> i'm setting it up through the kde (i'm on kubuntu) gui interface maybe that's my problem
[02:52] <LjL> zquirm: just change your "eth0" entry so that it looks similar to mine (with the right addresses, of course), rather than saying "dhcp"
[02:52] <LiteHedded> pastebin url please
[02:53] <ToHellWithGA> LiteHedded: pastebin.ca
[02:53] <zquirm> k
[02:53] <jighead> !tell LiteHedded about pastebin
[02:53] <alpha255> LiteHedded:  i use terminal as root... smbpasswd -a userwhologsinviawindows
[02:54] <ToHellWithGA> ic56: tell me if i'm asking too much of you.  i don't want to annoy you with my noob issues.  my output was http://thestonepedo.pastebin.ca/66698 and i'd like to know what it means that a file "grew"
[02:54] <sjoerd_> Is there anyone here using network manager?
[02:54] <anto9us> well, I'm more than tired, scanning text and missing half of it, night all :)
[02:54] <liquiem> is there something like depclean for ubuntu or a way to find orphaned packages?
[02:54] <Samus_Aran> darkfox: thank you
[02:54] <RadiantFire> mmm liquiem
[02:54] <RadiantFire> i don't think so
[02:55] <[sam] > hi
[02:55] <jighead> liquiem, deborphan
[02:55] <LiteHedded> alpha255: WORKING THANKS!
[02:55] <moonlite> i need the "lndir" command but it doesn't seem to be included in ubuntu anymore according to a bug report i launchpad
[02:55] <chapium> argh, why is rhythmbox so buggy
[02:55] <[sam] > is it correct spelling "Konversation"
[02:55] <liquiem> long time ago, i used debian and .. exactly, thanks, that sounds right ^^
[02:55] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: questions no problem.  the more you learn, the more you'll be able to help others too.  It's exponential growth!  Looking...
[02:55] <alpha255> LiteHedded: np :)
[02:55] <Samus_Aran> gotta get some things done then sleep at last.  g'dau a;;
[02:55] <lonran> hi
[02:55] <Samus_Aran> *g'day all
[02:55] <moonlite> i'm ok, with compiling it myself, but the source can't be found.
[02:55] <cassio> anto9us, soyy.. i'm back
[02:55] <cassio> i'll paste it
[02:55] <moonlite> anyone know where i can find a current tar.gz?
[02:55] <forevernoob> HellWithGA: it says envycontrol is bundled with alas-tools-gui... but when i run alsamixer i don't see any settings for anything digitial
[02:56] <lonran> how can i change properties of multiples songs in rythmbox at the same time?
[02:56] <[sam] > moonlite, there are mirror sites where u can download them
[02:56] <moonlite> [sam] : thanks
[02:56] <skavenge> [sam] ; no, c instead of k ..
[02:56] <ToHellWithGA> forevernoob: that's exactly why you need envy24control.  the alsamixer is crap for ice cards
[02:56] <moonlite> i've been googling for 10 minutes, do you have any idea where these mirror sites are?
[02:56] <ToHellWithGA> it just plain won't take care of your mixing.  envy24control is designed for cards with complex settings
[02:56] <sjoerd_> Anyone here that uses, or knows anything about, Network Manager Gnome ?
[02:56] <forevernoob> ToHellWithGA:  sorry i didn't find it repositories.. i will look harder
[02:57] <ToHellWithGA> forevernoob: are you using breezy or dapper?
[02:57] <cassio> anto9us,  the dmsg output => http://pastebin.com/715745
[02:57] <[sam] > these developers like to invent things, like Konsole instead of console
[02:57] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: I don't know what that message means.  Unfortunately, unix manuals for the last couple decades haven't payed attention to documenting the meanings of each error message.  I can try to guess what it means though...
[02:57] <forevernoob> ToHellWithGa: dapper
[02:57] <skavenge> [sam] ; yeah they use the k instead of c for alot of KDE applications
[02:57] <LiteHedded> alpha255: when I reboot this machine will the samba setup stay there?
[02:57] <forevernoob> ToHellWithGa: i am a retard
[02:57] <forevernoob> found it
[02:57] <darkfox> night all
[02:58] <alpha255> nite
[02:58] <LiteHedded> it's going to be a headless fileserver for now
[02:58] <ToHellWithGA> forevernoob: alsa-tools and alsa-tools-gui will do it for ya ;)
[02:58] <cassio> anto9us, lsusb output => http://pastebin.com/715747
[02:58] <LjL> LiteHedded: actually *headless*? not just light-headed?
[02:58] <LjL> (sorry)
[02:58] <LiteHedded> heh
[02:58] <LiteHedded> no monitor ;)
[02:58] <aaron> Hey folks.  I just installed Dapper server, and I was wondering what the name of the all-encompassing gnome2 package is.  I've found and installed xserver-xorg...but what else do I need to get a fully functional gnome desktop?
[02:58] <myavuzselim> I removed per accident /usr/lib/glib2.0, does it contain runtime libraries?
[02:58] <skavenge> why install server if you want a gui?
[02:59] <liquiem> aaron: would be ubuntu-desktop iirc
[02:59] <LjL> aaron: ubuntu-desktop
[02:59] <LjL> aaron: (yeah, why install server if you want a GUI ;) also, server has no sound AFAICR)
[02:59] <aaron> LjL: Excellent.  Thanks for your help.
[02:59] <alpha255> skavenge: that was my thought
[02:59] <ToHellWithGA> forevernoob: until you're very comfortable with linux, packaging, and building from source, don't be so hard on yourself.  coming from something other than linux to linux is a hell of a learning curve, and rewarding to boot.
[02:59] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: best guess, cpio detected a long sequence of 0s in that file and thought it might be a sparse file (which it wasn't).  So it tried to copy it without using any storage for those zeros but found it wasn't practical to do so and ended up occupying a sector to store them.  So it reports that the file "grew" -- by 0 bytes -- ie it consumes the same amount of disk as it did before.
[02:59] <forevernoob> ToHellWithGA:  o.k. when i execute envy24control i get  No ICE1712 cards found... this is what i get from lspci :0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT]  PCI Multi-Channel Audio Controller (rev 01)
[02:59] <aaron> LjL: Well, it's primarily going to be a servermachine, and I wasn't clear on what all was different.  :)
[02:59] <skavenge> *shrug* i've seen people do stranger things
[03:00] <ToHellWithGA> forevernoob: that's insteresting.  i don't know the ice1720 chipset.  mine is ice1712.
[03:00] <morphix> a server machine with gnome :|
[03:00] <alpha255> aaron: i'd look into ispconfig if you want a web based way to manage the box
[03:00] <liquiem> terminal machine or vnc server ^^
[03:00] <LjL> aaron: i think desktop would be more appropriate, as as far as my understanding goes server is more geared towards *very* powerful machines. but still, you may be fine with server if you don't need sound and that sort of goodies
[03:01] <morphix> * aaron has quit IRC (Client Quit) <<
[03:01] <LjL> ops
[03:01] <alpha255> he'd have learned more if he stayed
[03:01] <ic56> ToHellWithGA: try comparing the original and new files to make sure nothing untoward happend: cmp <oldfile> <newfile>
[03:01] <hanasaki> on 6.06 sound-juicer is giving .. Reason: Internal GStreamer error: negotiation problem.
[03:01] <forevernoob> ToHellWithGA:  well i can always take it back to BestBuy.. but i will look around a little more now that I have a better feel for what is going on
[03:02] <ToHellWithGA> forevernoob: if you don't mind my asking, how much did you pay for your card and what will you be doing?  i'm very happy with my US$120 M-Audio card and it works like a charm in linux (and used to :D in windows)
[03:02] <nacho_wide> i think the DVD i am playing "tears of the sun" is encrypted.  it plays in windows...I tried a couple packages but none seem to work.  any thoughts on how to get this to go?  thx guys
[03:03] <ToHellWithGA> nacho_wide: libdvdcss (iirc)
[03:03] <forevernoob> ToHellWithGA: it was only 38.00...  I know it was the only card they had with 5.1/optical out.  so i figured what the hell
[03:03] <ToHellWithGA> nacho_wide$ apt-cache search css
[03:04] <Archon> can unbuntu's GNOME interface's panels be compined into 1 panel (like Windows)?
[03:04] <cassio> anto9us, any clue?
[03:04] <LjL> Archon: sure, just remove one
[03:04] <forevernoob> nacho_wide:  if you are new to all this and want all the media to work. and don't have issues with laws/liceincng and stuff.. use easyubuntu to get all that stuff set up.. works perfectly
[03:04] <Archon> LjL: and all the panel's applets can be on any panel?
[03:04] <LjL> Archon: yes. right click on the panel, and you can add, move and remove anything
[03:04] <Archon> thanks
[03:04] <kmilo> Archon, yes
[03:04] <ToHellWithGA> forevernoob: i personally prefer coax out because coaxial cables are cheaper per distance unless you're a cracked-out audiophile geek using super-fancy analog cable for your digital transmission
[03:05] <liquiem> Archon: sure, rightclick empty panel space and choose add applet
[03:05] <LjL> Archon: you can have a weather applet too and that sort of gimmicks on the panel
[03:05] <Archon> heh, thanks all
[03:05] <nacho_wide> forevernoob: what is easyubuntu?
[03:06] <LjL> Archon: what you cannot have on the panel, though, is the current application's menu bar, in case you're thinking MacOS
[03:06] <Archon> the other question: I've got ubuntu warty warthog (4.10 i think), can i just install it, and 'update' it after the installation to bring it to the latest 6.06 (including optimisations, themes, programs)?
[03:06] <Archon> LjL: no, it's fine
[03:06] <LjL> Archon: no you can't
[03:06] <Archon> so i have to get the latest one again?
[03:06] <LjL> Archon: you should upgrade to hoary, then to breezy, and then to dapper. me, i bet it'd be easier to install from scratch
[03:06] <forevernoob> nacho_wide: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[03:07] <Archon> ok thanks again
[03:07] <alpha255> LjL: what about updating from flight 5 though?
[03:07] <LjL> alpha255: dapper flight 5? should work, i think.