[00:00] <Dr_willis> sourcemaker,  thers the new 8800 out now  Or out soon. :) about the best bang for the $$
[00:00] <Lazarus> im using a riva tnt2 model 64 on this box
[00:00] <sourcemaker> I am sorry for my language
[00:00] <Lazarus> i got the drivers to work
[00:00] <NeoFax> What driver did you try to use nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy>?
[00:00] <Excelsior> zibrah3ed: It is a trendnet twe-421PCI card
[00:00] <sourcemaker> I am just sitting 5 hours on pc... for installing a simple nvidia card
[00:00] <Excelsior> zibrah3ed: I might also add that it worked fine under Feisty
[00:00] <NeoFax> Excelsior: What is the chipset
[00:00] <Excelsior> NeoFax: Nforce4
[00:01] <NeoFax> No, the chipset on the WiFi card
[00:01] <sourcemaker> Lazarus : You are absolutly right
[00:01] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: Did you do sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy or nvidia-glx?
[00:01] <Excelsior> Marvell?
[00:02] <sourcemaker> NeoFax : I have tried both... but alway the same result of an api missmatch
[00:02] <Lazarus> sourcemaker: i think my card is older than yours though, heh
[00:02] <Dresken> I've updated Kubuntu and I still get the "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" when I try to mount an ntfs partition, any idea how to resolve this issue?
[00:02] <Lazarus> ive got to be to the gym
[00:02] <Lazarus> good day talking gents
[00:02] <NeoFax> Excelsior: Try doing lspci and getting the ID for that wifi card and do a google search to get the chipset
[00:02] <Excelsior> Bbs
[00:02]  * Excelsior is on Windows as a result of thius
[00:02]  * Excelsior *this
[00:02] <sourcemaker> Lazarus : be happy :-)
[00:03] <bbm4n> hello ppl
[00:03] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: Try sudo apt-get purge nvidia-glx, then do sudo apt-get install sudo nvidia-glx-legacy
[00:03] <bbm4n> can anyone help me with adept manager?
[00:03] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: nice try... I have also tried this
[00:03] <sourcemaker> ;-)
[00:03] <ubuzztu> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk seems to be working
[00:03] <Arkard> Hi to everyone
[00:04] <Arkard> I need some help with the update please
[00:04] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: Do lsmod | grep nvidia
[00:04] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: here you are: nvidia 4713780 0 nvidia_agp 9500 1 i2c_core 22656 3 i2c_ec,nvidia,i2c_nforce2 agpgart 35400 2 nvidia,nvidia_agp
[00:04] <Arkard> i just get the Kubuntu 7.10 CD ROM, and i want to update from it, i try using this command: kdesu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[00:05] <Dresken> Anyone? o_o
[00:05] <Arkard> can anybody help me please?
[00:06] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: And you still get the same error in Xorg.0.log?  That is strange as the driver is loaded otherwise you would not have gotten anything from that last bit of code
[00:06] <NeoFax> Arkard: Do you have Fiesty already installed?
[00:06] <Arkard> yeap
[00:06] <Arkard> and already updated too
[00:07] <NeoFax> Then just do sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and change every instance of Fiesty to gutsy.
[00:07] <sourcemaker> NeoFax : same error
[00:07] <ardchoille> NeoFax: That's not the recommended method to upgrade, he'll miss apps with that method.
[00:07] <sourcemaker> except... the API missmatch is not written to the log file...
[00:07] <NeoFax> What does your /etc/X11/xorg.conf look like in the devices section for the video card
[00:07] <Arkard> NeoFax: is that i wish to update to GG from the CDROM
[00:07] <ardchoille> !upgrade | Arkard
[00:07] <ubotu> Arkard: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[00:08] <Minataku> こんばんわ
[00:08] <Minataku> :3
[00:08] <bbm4n> whats that?
[00:08] <bbm4n> chinese?
[00:08] <NeoFax> Minataku: Is that Thai?
[00:08] <Minataku> It's Japanese
[00:08] <Minataku> I setup Japanese input today
[00:08] <sourcemaker> nice upgrade notes... but the GUI Upgrade does not work... when java is installed on your system... :-)
[00:09] <Minataku> Had to restart X11 at least 10 times before I got it set up correctly
[00:09] <andreas_> what do i need to install to watch divx movies in firefox?
[00:09] <|neon|> is there a channel for dsniff
[00:09] <NeoFax> Arkard: You can, just comment all of the apt lines except for the CD-Rom one.
[00:09] <Arkard> Ok NeoFax let me try
[00:10] <sourcemaker> andreas_:  @mozilla-mplayer?
[00:10] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: Have you tried mv /etc/X11/xorg.onf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.nak and let BulletproofX try and figure out a good setting for your card?
[00:11] <NeoFax> Arkard: Why would u want to upgrade from the CD?  There has been plenty of updates since 7.10 came out and now you r upgrading twice
[00:11] <sourcemaker> NeoFax : Well.... i think there is no xorg config problem... it is the same as in feisty... and yes... i have try some autoconfigure tools :-)
[00:12] <Arkard> NeoFax: is that i have a very slow Internet connection, and i really wish to update to 7.10
[00:12] <Dr_willis> Theres the Kubuntu-restricted-extras package also -that good to install to get a lot of the media-stuff going
[00:12] <NeoFax> The problem seems to not be the driver as well.  I think it is glx on your sytem being messed up and nvidia will not start X without this
[00:12] <sourcemaker> Arkard : Keep on feisty... in gusty... there are a lot of bugs... :-)
[00:13] <Arkard> a lot of BUGS????
[00:13] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: Maybe for you, I haven't seen any big problems in Gutsy
[00:13] <Dr_willis> Upgrading works good for some..  not so good for others.
[00:13] <Dr_willis> I advise clean reinstalls when possible
[00:13] <ardchoille> same here
[00:13] <ardchoille> Arkard: Why not just backup personal files and do a fresh install from the 7.10 cd?
[00:13] <NeoFax> I have had quite a few problems so far.  Actually I cannot boot right now because of a update in Gutsy.
[00:14] <Arkard> ardchoille: im really close to do it man
[00:14] <Dr_willis> i keep my /home on its own HD. :) clean installs are easy
[00:14] <ardchoille> Indeed
[00:14] <Dr_willis> i also make a script that installs the packages i always normally install.
[00:15] <Arkard> what about all the Packages i have downloaded?
[00:15] <Dr_willis> you can use a command to get a list of all the ones you have installed
[00:15] <ardchoille> I have written a master script (app installs, tweaks, etc) so a fresh install requires that I be in front of the computer a total of 10 minutes.
[00:16] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_Willis :D
[00:16] <sourcemaker> ardchoille :- the upgrade gui: hangs on 10%... because of an dependy of java... there was a .deb file witch required user input (boom) :-)- My NVidia Card... does not work- The network was done... because of an configuration problem after upgrade
[00:16] <ricardo_> hola
[00:16] <Minataku> !es | ricardo_
[00:16] <ubotu> ricardo_: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[00:16] <Minataku> :3
[00:16] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: I don't do upgrades ;)
[00:17] <ricardo_> hi
[00:17] <Minataku> Hello
[00:17] <ricardo_> this is the forst time i use kubuntu
[00:17] <ricardo_> *first sorry
[00:17] <ardchoille> ricardo_: Welcome :)
[00:17] <ricardo_> thanks
[00:17] <Minataku> ricardo_: Indeed, welcome :3
[00:17] <ricardo_> :)
[00:18] <ricardo_> what is this channel about
[00:18] <sourcemaker> ardchoille : I also prefer fresh install... but I do have no time... to maintaince my system every 3 months from scatch
[00:18] <ricardo_> ?
[00:18] <Minataku> Kubuntu assistance
[00:18] <ardchoille> ricardo_: Kubuntu, What can we help you with?
[00:18] <Minataku> If you just dropped in to chat, there's #kubuntu-offtopic
[00:18] <sourcemaker> ardchoille : But it whould be better...
[00:18] <ricardo_> jeje thank you
[00:18] <ardchoille> sourcemaker: So write a bash script or two to automate things, that's what I have done.
[00:18] <Minataku> Though it's a bit quiet in there at the moment
[00:19] <ricardo_> im from mexico
[00:19] <Minataku> Coo
[00:19] <Minataku> I'm farther north
[00:19] <Minataku> lol
[00:19] <ricardo_> jejje
[00:19] <ricardo_> well i like kubuntu
[00:20] <Minataku> :)
[00:20] <ricardo_> ohh i see official kubuntu support channel
[00:20] <ricardo_> oks
[00:20] <ricardo_> well im ok
[00:20] <ricardo_> see you
[00:21] <crxyem> so did 7.010 drop support for ppc
[00:21] <Dr_willis> !ppc
[00:21] <ubotu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[00:22] <Dr_willis> there is a ppc cd/image  for 7.10  i recall./ but never tried it.
[00:22] <Arkard> NeoFax: i have a problem, i insert the CDROM but it doesnt mount the cdrom in /cdrom, what can i do?
[00:23] <Arkard> it apears like this: /media/Kubuntu 7.10 i386
[00:23] <NeoFax> Arkard: Where does it mount it?
[00:23] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: "Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-9755, but this X module has the version 1.0-9631. Please make sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version." using nvidia-glx-legacy
[00:23] <Minataku> crxyem: To answer the question, "sort of"
[00:23] <Arkard> NeoFax: /media/Kubuntu 7.10 i386
[00:23] <Dr_willis> ive never seen kubuntu mount the cd to /cdrom
[00:23] <Dr_willis>   normally its /media/cdrom for me.
[00:24] <ardchoille> He'd have to edit fstabd for that I believe
[00:24] <crxyem> I just pick up an g3 imac, and I wasn't given the mac osx 10.3.9 discs so my next idea was to use linux
[00:24] <ardchoille> *fstab
[00:24] <Arkard> so, when i try to add it as a REPO, it says "There is no CDROM Inserted"
[00:24] <NeoFax> Arkard Try ln -s /media/cdrom /media/Kubuntu 7.10 i386
[00:24] <NickPresta> Arkard, is there a reason you need to have your CDROM as a repo?
[00:24] <Arkard> update from FF to GG
[00:25] <Minataku> crxyem: There's also FreeBSD, but that's more than a touch harder
[00:25] <Minataku> Though not TOO difficult
[00:25] <Minataku> Though you're not likely to get much help out of #freebsd
[00:26] <Arkard> NeoFax: doesnt work
[00:26] <sourcemaker> dpkg-query -l | grep nvidiaii  nvidia-glx                                 1:1.0.9639+<IP_ADDRESS>-14.10              NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver
[00:26] <Minataku> I've got an older PPC machine myself
[00:26] <Minataku> Though mine is PReP, not Mac
[00:26] <Dr_willis> I got an imac DV - its running OS-x right now. Linux always ran ... weird on it.
[00:27] <Minataku> That's because Macs suck
[00:27] <Minataku> :P
[00:27] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: Can you open adept and do a search on legacy and tell me what you show installed with this?
[00:27] <Minataku> If you want a proper PPC machine, get an RS/6000
[00:27] <Dr_willis> a PS3
[00:27] <Dr_willis> :)
[00:27] <Minataku> I said PROPER
[00:27] <sourcemaker> root@sourcemaker-desktop:/home/sourcemaker# aptitude search legacyp   edubuntu-addon-legacy                                                            - Edubuntu add-on packages from older releasesp   kmilo-legacy                                                                     - non-standard plugins for KMilop   legacyhuman-theme                                                                - Legacy Human GTK themep   nvidia-glx-leg
[00:27] <sourcemaker>                 - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'legacy' driverc   nvidia-glx-legacy-dev                                                            - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'legacy' driver development filesp   nvidia-legacy-kernel-source                                                      - NVIDIA binary 'legacy' kernel module sourcep   xkb-data-legacy                                                                  - Classic
[00:27] <Minataku> Now you're REALLY scraping the bottom of the barrel with THAT suggestion, Dr_Willis
[00:28] <Dr_willis> PegaOS machine.
[00:28] <Minataku> That Cell POS is barely a proper PPC chip itself
[00:28] <Dr_willis> :)
[00:28] <vzduch> !paste | sourcemaker
[00:28] <ubotu> sourcemaker: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[00:28] <Dr_willis> it helps to paste usefullinfo also. :)
[00:28] <Minataku> I've got an IBM RS/6000 43P-140
[00:29] <Minataku> PowerPC 604e @ 233MHz
[00:29] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: Try uninstalling nvidia-glx with the purge option and installing the nvidia-glx-legacy with the legacy kernel drivers
[00:29] <sourcemaker> ubuntulog: great to know... thanks
[00:29] <Minataku> Gigantic machine, it's taller than a Sun Ultra 2
[00:29] <Minataku> A touch thinner and a touch longer, as well
[00:30] <NeoFax> Your problem is you have mismatching drivers.  With two different drivers installed, the kernel gets confused and cannot run.
[00:30] <Minataku> But it's got a cool sliding door over the front parts
[00:30] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: Thanks for you help... but i will buy a new card...
[00:30] <Minataku> Which includes a little orange, 4-character, LED display :3
[00:31] <Dresken> Does anyone have any idea about how to resolve the "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" issue?
[00:31] <Hakmad> um, can someone help me with Kubuntu installation? I booted the CD, but now what?
[00:31] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Ive seen that Uid refused issue asked in here a lot.. wonder what the forums say about it,
[00:32] <Dr_willis> Hakmad,  ya got a desktop? see an icon that says 'install' ?
[00:32] <Hakmad> I clicked it...nothing :(
[00:32] <Arkard> im still cannot update GG from CDROM
[00:32] <Dr_willis> double click?
[00:32] <Hakmad> tyes
[00:32] <Dr_willis> :)
[00:32] <Hakmad> It shows a little icon on the mouse, but then it goes away and nothing
[00:32] <Minataku> ぱそこん
[00:33] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: When did you start using linux ? (in years?)
[00:33] <Minataku> Heehee
[00:33] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: Roughly May of 1999
[00:33] <spyder79> Hello, I had some kind of glitch during a full upgrade and now adept won't actually update anything, any ideas?
[00:33] <Minataku> Erm
[00:33] <Minataku> That's not supposed to be in hiragana
[00:33] <Minataku> My bad
[00:33] <NeoFax> My first install was RedHat 5.2
[00:34] <Minataku> パソコン
[00:34] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: Okay... Now i know your skills :-)
[00:34] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: Great :-)
[00:34] <Minataku> That's more like it
[00:34] <Minataku> lol
[00:34] <NeoFax> You want to tsalk about learning to install linux.  That was fun.
[00:34] <Minataku> I've installed numerous different OSes myself
[00:34] <Hakmad> Does anyone know what i should do? It won't install :(
[00:34] <Minataku> But that's because I'm a collector
[00:34] <NeoFax> Minataku: What ones that aren't UNIX based or Windows?
[00:34] <Minataku> Of both OSes and Computers
[00:35] <NeoFax> Just OSes
[00:35] <Minataku> Well, I've installed CP/M-86
[00:35] <Minataku> I've installed DEC RT-11
[00:35] <Minataku> DEC RSTS/E
[00:35] <Dr_willis> ive only used the alternative install cd - not sure how to troubhe shoot the live cd installer.  Could run the install command from a terminal.
[00:35] <Minataku> Syllable
[00:35] <Hakmad> how?
[00:35] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: Have you also installed gentoo from stage 1... thats fun :-)?
[00:35] <Minataku> Syllable is POSIX, not Unix, BTW
[00:35] <bbm4n> can anyone help me with unistalling stuff?
[00:35] <Minataku> sourcemaker: I have
[00:35] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: Yes.  I used Gentoo for a long time.
[00:35] <Minataku> Piyoko's install used to be a Stage 1
[00:36] <andreas_> Cant get mplayer working with konqueror
[00:36] <Minataku> But when I reinstalled to her new HDD, they had deprecated Stage 1
[00:36] <NeoFax> Minataku: You have me beat.  Ever use Be?
[00:36] <sourcemaker> bbm4n: apt-get remove $package
[00:36] <Minataku> But I recompiled everything anyway
[00:36] <Dr_willis> I used BeOS for a while. :)
[00:36] <Hakmad> how do I run install command from terminal?
[00:36] <Minataku> So it ended up being technically a stage 1
[00:36] <Minataku> NeoFax: Yes, I have
[00:36] <sourcemaker> bbm4n: apt-get remove --purge $page-name (also delete config files=
[00:36] <Dr_willis> Hakmad,  right click on that install icon, select properties. and see what command its running,
[00:37] <Minataku> The PDP-11 OSes I installed on a VM, BTW
[00:37] <Minataku> Hooray for SIMH
[00:37] <Minataku> :3
[00:37] <NeoFax> What is your favorite?
[00:37] <bbm4n> basically i want to remove a package with all the other packages that because of the dependencies installed too
[00:37] <Minataku> Probably Linux
[00:37] <Minataku> lol
[00:37] <Minataku> With NetBSD a close second
[00:37] <bbm4n> is there a log file or something to use?
[00:37] <NeoFax> I would say Linux as well.  It has got to be the most versatile sytem I have used.
[00:38] <Minataku> I've installed A/UX on a semi-supported system
[00:38] <Minataku> That was an adventure
[00:38] <Minataku> I've got A/UX 3.1.1 running on an Apple Macintosh Quadra 650
[00:38] <NeoFax> I have multiple different setups using the linux kernel.  That is just amazing to me.
[00:38] <Arkard> im still cannot update GG from CDROM
[00:38] <sourcemaker> Minataku: the old amiga workbench was the best... insert the floppy disk and everything was working (*joke*)
[00:39] <NeoFax> Minataku: I remember using those in high school the Apple Quadra I mean
[00:39] <Minataku> Ubuntu could do well to rip off some of the features from A/UX
[00:39] <Minataku> lol
[00:39] <Dr_willis> That QNX floppy disk desktop a few years back was neat also. :)
[00:39] <bbm4n> i would vote for windows vista, rofl
[00:39] <Minataku> I've got screenshots of A/UX
[00:39] <Minataku> Lemme pull 'em up
[00:40] <Minataku> http://s95018220.onlinehome.us/random/auximages/ << Enjoy :D
[00:40] <sourcemaker> bbm4n: Yes... you can buy the newest pc... but vista is working very slow because of different drivers problems
[00:40] <NeoFax> Arkard: You need to link the /media/Kubuntu to /media/cdrom.  Also, you will need to enclose the Kubuntu part or use the \ character as Linux does not like spaces.
[00:40] <sourcemaker> Minataku: nice pics
[00:40] <Minataku> Thank Apple for Ctrl+Shift+3
[00:40] <Minataku> lol
[00:41] <Arkard> yeah, i fix it NeoFax, but it doesnt make the Symbolic Link
[00:41] <Minataku> Then thank ImageMagick for converting them from MIFF to PNG
[00:41] <Minataku> lol
 yes i know my laptop freaked out with them, i have an original copy sitting on my desk :)
[00:41] <Minataku> But yeah, thank me for getting the pics X3
[00:41] <NeoFax> Minataku: R u a Naruto fan?  I noticed the name Sasuke
[00:41] <Minataku> This was untouched by Jobs (A/UX, that is) so it's actually usable and not too filled with evil
[00:42] <Minataku> Not really
[00:42] <Minataku> Naruto is rather cute, though >.>
[00:42] <Minataku> The series has excellent character design XD
[00:42] <Minataku> But that's about all it does excellently
[00:42] <spyder79_> Can anyone help me with an upgrade problem?
[00:42] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: Do you know the configuration... to open dophin instead of konqi?
[00:42] <NeoFax> Yes, but sometimes it takes forever for the plot to move
[00:42] <Minataku> As for the name, all my systems are named after anime characters
[00:43] <Minataku> I happened to be thinking about Naruto when it came time to name the Q650
[00:43] <Hakmad> tok, my LiveCD thingy just froze on me...:(
[00:43] <Minataku> Or something
[00:43] <Minataku> I don't quite remember
[00:43] <Minataku> Sasuke, not as cute
[00:43] <Minataku> Sakura, though... Wow. ;3
[00:43] <Minataku> XD
[00:43] <NeoFax> sourcemaker: Try kcontrol and setting the default filemanager configuration.  Or try changing the type in konqueror like when you change mpg viewer from noatun to kaffeine
[00:44] <Dr_willis> Hakmad,  im wondering if your cd image file was burnt badly, or messed up in downloading
[00:44] <andreas_> Cant get mplayer working with konqueror
[00:44] <Minataku> At least Naruto isn't as bad as DBZ
[00:44] <NeoFax> Minataku: I like Hinata.
[00:44] <NeoFax> She is an introvert like me.
[00:44] <Hakmad> maybe Dr., is there anyway to get a CD that just installs it?
[00:44] <Minataku> Where what little plot there was (none) moved along slower than frozen molasses
[00:44] <|neon|> i know is offtopic but i just installed fc8 on my spare sys , what a freaking joke of OS
[00:44] <NeoFax> Minataku: I used to like DBZ, but it started to wear on me.  Have you watched DeathNote?
[00:44] <bbm4n> another question why w32codecs cannot help me play a .avi file?
[00:45] <Minataku> I haven't, no
[00:45] <Stingball> Since i upgraded to gutsey my machine has taken about a 40% proformance hit
[00:45] <Minataku> I prefer comedy stuff
[00:45] <Dr_willis> Hakmad,  thats the 'alternative install cd' that i always use. it should be mentioned on the kubuntu web page/download links
[00:45] <NeoFax> bbm4n: What is the fourcc code?
[00:45] <Stingball> any one know where i can start looking
[00:45] <bbm4n> deathnote is awesome btw!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:45] <Hakmad> ok, ill try that
[00:45] <sourcemaker> NeoFax: thanks
[00:45] <semistud2354> can someone tell me how to trick a website that requires internet explorer
[00:45] <Minataku> I just finished watching "Lucky Star", "Magical Pokan" and "The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi"
[00:45] <semistud2354> i think theres a mozilla plugin but i am unable to find it
[00:45] <semistud2354> err...firefox
[00:46] <Dr_willis> Hakmad,  thats the 'alternative install cd' that i always use. it should be mentioned on the kubuntu web page/download links
[00:46] <NeoFax> DeathNote is like Bleach, but way darker.  You kinda have to be morbid to get into it.
[00:46] <Dr_willis> oops :) heh
[00:46] <Hakmad> ok Dr, im goign there right now...
[00:46] <Minataku> Yeah, you can see my tastes in that selection up there
[00:46] <Minataku> lol
[00:46] <semistud2354> its important becuae im using linux....and im taking an online class
[00:46] <bbm4n> fourcc, what do you mean?
[00:46] <semistud2354> i dont want to install windows JUST for one class
[00:46] <NeoFax> semistud2354: Change what your system is telling the website.  I forget what it is called, but in Konqueror you can configure it
[00:47] <Minataku> semistud2354: User Agent Switcher
[00:47] <Stingball> NeoFax: Wine?
[00:47] <Minataku> That's what it's called
[00:47] <semistud2354> is there a way to make mozilla do it
[00:47] <semistud2354> err...firefox
[00:47] <Stingball> use active x I doubt it
[00:47] <Minataku> The Firefox extension is called "User Agent Switcher"
[00:47] <bbm4n>  <NeoFax> : fourcc, what do you mean?
[00:47] <NeoFax> bbm4n: AVI is just a container.  You can shove xvid, divx, all kinds of codecs inside it.
[00:48] <semistud2354> whats better the konqueror one or the plugin for firefox
[00:48] <Hakmad> Willis, Im at the download section...I see stuff about Gutsy Gibbon and Dapper...dont see "alternate cd" anywhere...
[00:48] <Minataku> Firefox
[00:48] <NeoFax> fourcc tells you exactly what type of codecs are used on that vid file
[00:48] <semistud2354> firefox one is better
[00:48] <Minataku> Firefox also offers a manual change ala Konq
[00:48] <Minataku> But Firefox is 1200% better in all respects anyway
[00:48] <Minataku> Plus the aforementioned extension is far easier
[00:49] <semistud2354> kk
 : how can i see the fourcc code?
[00:49] <semistud2354> konquer is good for file browsing
[00:49] <NeoFax> Firefox is way better as it has been supported and upgraded.  Konqueror has been slowly dying ever since the maintainers(many, not all) have moved to webkit AKA Safari
[00:50] <Hakmad> help
[00:50] <NeoFax> In linux I am not sure.  I would try running mplayer from the command line and see what it spits back.  Or, you can use fourcc from doom9.org inside wine maybe.
[00:51] <semistud2354> konqueror is dying
[00:51] <NeoFax> Also, if mplayer doesn't play it with w32codecs, then it probably won't play.  Try vlc though to
[00:51] <semistud2354> whats the replacemnet going to be for konqueror
[00:51] <semistud2354> ?
[00:51] <semistud2354> when everyone...i guess quits
[00:51] <NeoFax> dolphin
[00:51]  * Minataku meows
[00:52] <semistud2354> DOLPHIN NOOOO EWWWWW
[00:52] <NeoFax> for the file manager and webkit for html
[00:52] <semistud2354> i like the simplicity of konqueror...donlphin....
[00:52] <NeoFax> semistud2354: I am with you on that one
 :thanks i'll try that later cause i am upgrading to gutsy now :D
[00:52] <NeoFax> I hate how simple dolphin has become.
[00:53] <NeoFax> It is almost as bad as Nautilus.
[00:53] <semistud2354> yea...
[00:53] <semistud2354> i thought konqueror was actually pretty good
[00:53] <Minataku> I never did
[00:53] <NeoFax> You can't even sort by size or show the size
[00:53] <semistud2354> not a bad browser...NOT THE BEST but not bad...for emergency use
[00:53] <semistud2354> aka...live cd...no firefox
[00:53] <Minataku> Links is for emergency use
[00:53] <semistud2354> onlne test...lol
[00:54] <bbm4n> i love links :D
[00:54] <NeoFax> Minataku: That is harsh.
[00:54] <semistud2354> is there a java..based linux web browser
[00:54] <Minataku> What? Links is a very good browser.
[00:54] <Minataku> It even has graphical modes for framebuffer, SVGAlib and X11
[00:54] <NeoFax> If I had a choice, it would be firefox, but with better memory usage, or Opera with better KDE compatibility
[00:55] <Minataku> I refuse to use Opera
[00:55] <bbm4n> Links kept me sane while i was using gentoo with no window system support *sighs
[00:55] <NeoFax> Links is good if you are a sadist
[00:55] <Minataku> I'm not going to use a lousy proprietary browser when a superior free one exists
[00:55] <pacman> anyone familiar with asus motherboards?
[00:56] <wols_> pacman: ask your real question
[00:56] <NeoFax> Can you get to the Mozilla source?
[00:56] <Minataku> Yes
[00:56] <Minataku> Firefox is open source
[00:56] <wols_> NeoFax: mozilla/firefox is Free software
[00:56] <Minataku> As is Mozilla
[00:56] <evil_cow> hi channel, i just installed Kubuntu 7.10 and my K menu is kinda messed up with things like "Entries in k menu" instead of the app name, is there an easy fix for this or should i go and re-do the menus ?
[00:56] <Minataku> And all their other projects
[00:56] <NeoFax> Yes, but Opera is free as well, just not open
[00:56] <Minataku> It's proprietary
[00:56] <pacman> I have 2GB of RAM plugged into the motherboard, and the BIOS only says I have 512 MB
[00:56] <Minataku> Unacceptable
[00:57] <wols_> pacman: #hardware
[00:57] <NeoFax> Do you watch movies on your PC?
[00:57] <semistud2354> aww....man...i see tricking the websight didnt help
[00:57] <Hakmad> Linux is starting to piss me off...
[00:57] <semistud2354> it uses activex
[00:57] <semistud2354> or the microsoft java
[00:57] <Minataku> semistud2354: Demand support for non-Windows platforms
[00:57] <Minataku> Or demand your money back
[00:58] <NeoFax> Or run Windows in Virtualbox
[00:58] <Minataku> Or that, yeah, but the point is that one shouldn't have to
[00:58] <Minataku> 99% it's probably for some stupid DRM, too
[00:59] <NeoFax> I agree, but until openness becomes the majority, it will not change
[00:59] <pacman> how do I look and see how much RAM kubuntu is detecting?
[00:59] <Minataku> free
[01:00] <NeoFax> top
[01:00] <wols_> pacman: if your bios only sees 512MN, then linux won't see more
[01:00] <Hakmad> Anyone know how to get the Alternate Installer CD fro kubuntu?
[01:00] <wols_> pacman: fix your BIOS first
[01:00] <pacman> that's what I figured
[01:00] <NeoFax> Anyone know how to fix my problem?  "weird, boot cpu (#15) not listed by BIOS"
[01:01] <evil_cow> switching to name only fixed it :P :)
[01:01] <Minataku> NeoFax: Sounds like an MP fault
[01:01] <NeoFax> MP?
[01:01] <Minataku> MultiProcessor
[01:01] <NeoFax> I only have a single processor system
[01:01] <marce_> hola
[01:01] <Minataku> Is it causing any issues other than an error?
[01:02] <NeoFax> It is a P8M8-V
[01:02] <NeoFax> It will not boot.
[01:02] <Minataku> The default kernel is compiled for MP
[01:02] <NeoFax> It hangs at that point.
[01:02] <Minataku> Likely the board is MP-capable, but is broken
[01:02] <NeoFax> I am using <IP_ADDRESS>-generic and was using it for about a week with no problems until today.
[01:02] <papa_> hi there: can anyone help me figure out why i am not getting any sound . i am using feisty
[01:03] <NeoFax> I was told it could be a microcode problem
[01:03] <Minataku> Hm
[01:03] <Minataku> It's entirely possible that a fault has developed somewhere in the mainboard
[01:03] <Minataku> The value is interesting in itself, since it's 0xF
[01:03] <NeoFax> That is what I was dreading, just when I gave my old system away
[01:04] <wols_> NeoFax: tried noapic?
[01:04] <Minataku> 15d == Fh == 1111b
[01:04] <NeoFax> wols_: I tried disabling ACPI in the BIOS
[01:04] <Hakmad> Does anyone know where to obtain the Alternate Install CD?
[01:04] <wols_> apic is not acpi
[01:04] <Minataku> Is there an option to disable MP?
[01:04] <Minataku> Or force UP?
[01:05] <NeoFax> OK, will try that, not in the bios as it only supports non mp cpus
[01:05] <Minataku> Hm
[01:05] <Minataku> I can't imagine why a CPU which should be unit 0 would suddenly identify as 15
[01:05] <NeoFax> I am running a Socket 478 Intel Celeron 3.2 Ghz(don't laugh)  with the Via kt400 chipset
[01:06] <Minataku> Hey, Piyoko here is a Pentium 4 @ 2660MHz
[01:06] <Minataku> I make my computers last
[01:06] <Hakmad> Does anyone know where to obtain the Alternate Install CD?
[01:06] <Minataku> Strict no-overclocking rule, for one
[01:06] <NeoFax> tHE ONLY DIFFERENCE FROM BOOTING YESTERDAY AND TODAY IS THAT i INSTALLED THE RESTRICTED modules
[01:06] <NeoFax> Sorry for the caps
[01:06] <papa_> anyone?
[01:06] <Minataku> Hm
[01:06] <Minataku> What comes in that pack?
[01:08] <Hakmad> OMG! SOMETHING IS HAPPENING!!!!!!!!
[01:08] <gnomefreak> Minataku: apt-cache show package  will tell you what it depends on
[01:08] <Minataku> I don't use Kubuntu
[01:09] <Hakmad> tYES!
[01:09] <Dr_willis> Hakmad,  http://mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntu/kubuntu/gutsy/
[01:09] <Dr_willis> Hakmad,  http://mirrors.gigenet.com/ubuntu/kubuntu/gutsy/kubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso
[01:09] <Hakmad> Willis, thanks, I will need that.
[01:10] <Hakmad> Also, A WINDOWS JUST APPEARED NAMED INTALL
[01:10] <Hakmad> tYES! :)
[01:10] <Minataku> Caps down
[01:10] <Hakmad> yes!
[01:10] <Minataku> Thanks
[01:10] <Minataku> lol
[01:11] <Dr_willis> if its taken a few minets for the install window to appear.. well.. that may be a sign somthing else is wrong. :)
[01:11] <Dr_willis> or you are on a C64 :P
[01:11] <Hakmad> No, I did what u said and ran the command from the Terminal
[01:11] <Dr_willis> Oh :)
[01:19] <macdo> hi, got a problem - kubuntu gutsy freezes with proprietary Nvidia driver. What can I do (apart from not have 3D :-) ). Where should I go?
[01:24] <Minataku> Hm
[01:25] <Minataku> Hey, NeoFax, why don't you hang out in #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:25] <Minataku> That way we can talk about anime or something
[01:25] <Minataku> lol
[01:25] <Dr_willis> its too full of weirdos. :)
[01:25] <Minataku> Haha
[01:25] <Hakmad> lol
[01:26] <foenig> hi@all
[01:26] <Dr_willis> ya know.. ASL/ CP/M :) that sort of pervisions.
[01:26] <Minataku> I was wondering why you were never in there, Dr_Willis XD
[01:26] <Minataku> XD
[01:27] <papa_> can anyone help me with my audio. i am not getting any sound? anyone?
[01:27] <Dr_willis> !alsa
[01:27] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:28] <Dr_willis> Checked their troubleshooting yet?
[01:28] <Hakmad> Is your volume up?
[01:29] <stacey> ok...stupid noob question...how so I start compiz?
[01:29] <stdin> !compiz
[01:29] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[01:30] <stacey> ah thanks very much :)
[01:30] <hagabaka> hmm
[01:30] <hagabaka> does compiz-kde require xserver-xgl?
[01:31] <stdin> no
[01:31] <hagabaka> oh
[01:31] <Dr_willis> compiz --replace      will start it  - if installed.
[01:31] <foenig> lol soundsession tonight ... question (kubuntu 7.10) ... my sound output had changed ... it sounds "chappellike"
[01:31] <Dr_willis> xgl is needed for the ati cards isent it.
[01:31] <hagabaka> hmm
[01:31] <hagabaka> i do have an ATI card and use fglrx
[01:31] <foenig> works fine till today
[01:31] <hagabaka> xgl seems very slow...
[01:32] <macdo> kubuntu gutsy freezes with proprietary Nvidia driver. What can I do (apart from not have 3D :-) ). Where should I go?
[01:32] <stdin> hagabaka: that's because it is slow
[01:32] <hagabaka> i see
[01:32] <Dr_willis> macdo,  freezing is weird.. what video card?
[01:33] <WaltzingAlong> hagabaka: then you may want to use the more recent fglrx which supports AIGLX
[01:33] <WaltzingAlong> fglrx ati howto wiki http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide (for 3d support on older radeon cards, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver for data) | hagabaka, this one
[01:33] <stdin> hagabaka: the fglrx driver can't use aiglx, so it need to preform most computations in the system cpu rather than the graphics cards one (that's what xgl does)
[01:33] <hagabaka> hmm
[01:34] <hagabaka> even the new fglrx?
[01:34] <stdin> the new "unsupported" one can apparently use aiglx, but not the packaged version
[01:34] <WaltzingAlong> fglrx 8.42.3 supports AIGLX
[01:34] <hagabaka> ah, ok
[01:34] <hagabaka> i installed it with package from ATI
[01:35] <papa_> Dr_willis: still going over the page
[01:35] <hagabaka> but i seem to need to add it to compiz's whitelist
[01:35] <WaltzingAlong> hagabaka: which is also explained on the wiki link i sent
[01:36] <hagabaka> thanks
[01:36] <hagabaka> xgl seems to show everthing in a higher vertical resolution...i kind of like it because my screen is normally too small for me
[01:40] <foenig> lol soundsession tonight ... question (kubuntu 7.10) ... my sound output had changed ... it sounds "chappellike"
[01:40] <foenig> one part "okk" - one part echolike from "behind"
[01:51] <Zombocom> how do I configure the output so that one screen is one desktop, and another is another
[01:52] <Zombocom> I have two screens hooked up to my computer
[01:52] <Zombocom> how do I make it so one is another screen entirely?
[01:53] <excitatory> i would also like to know the same
[01:53] <excitatory> i hear randr 1.2 is the new way to do it, but all howto's i find don't work or are confusing..
[01:53] <excitatory> so idk..
[01:53] <Zombocom> well thanks anyway
[01:54] <helfrez> !compiz
[01:54] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[01:54] <Zombocom> hello?
[01:55] <Dr_willis> Hello.
[01:55] <Autoscum> !mp3
[01:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:55] <Autoscum> ubotu: mp3
[01:55] <Autoscum> okay... the bot is ignoring me :(
[01:55] <Autoscum> oh, there
[01:55] <Dr_willis> h3ll0 :)
[01:55] <Autoscum> hello, Dr_willis
[01:55] <Autoscum> :)
[01:55]  * Dr_willis charges the bot.
[01:56] <Autoscum> No, it's not his fault. :D
[01:56]  * Zombocom charges his lazah
[01:56] <Autoscum> Bots are just dumb. :P
[01:56] <Zombocom> !laser
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about laser - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <Autoscum> nothing personal, ubotu
[01:56] <Autoscum> :D
[01:56] <stdin> it's smart enough not to repeat itself
[01:56] <Zombocom> !death
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about death - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <Autoscum> rofl
[01:56] <Zombocom> !god
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about god - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <stdin> !botabuse > Zombocom
[01:56] <Dr_willis> !ubotu
[01:56] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:56] <Autoscum> =D
[01:56] <Autoscum> all-knowing, rofl
[01:57] <Zombocom> aw
[01:57] <Zombocom> ubotu just pulled me aside and told me to stfu
[01:57] <stdin> !stfu | Zombocom
[01:57] <ubotu> Zombocom: Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[01:57] <Autoscum> yeah, no swearing :P
[01:57] <Autoscum> God said so ^^
[01:57] <Zombocom> "<ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)"
[02:00] <Autoscum> but still
[02:00] <Autoscum> i can't play mp3's :/
[02:00] <draik> !kaffeine
[02:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kaffeine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <draik> !info kaffeine
[02:00] <ubotu> kaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.5-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 2180 kB, installed size 6128 kB
[02:00] <NickPresta> What is the suggested way to proceed when your livecd hangs and the cd stops spinning? drop to tty1 and run startx/startkde?
[02:00] <Autoscum> when i search for ubuntu-restricted-extras in add/remove nothing is found
[02:01] <Autoscum> kaffeine... sure, i'll try :>
[02:01] <stdin> Autoscum: search in adept manager then
[02:01] <Autoscum> i did
[02:01] <Autoscum> nothing there either
[02:01] <stdin> you're on feisty ?
[02:02] <Autoscum> 7.10
[02:02] <stdin> then it is there
[02:02] <Autoscum> it should be
[02:02] <stdin> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[02:02] <ubotu> kubuntu-restricted-extras: Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[02:02] <Autoscum> but amaroK says it can't play mp3's
[02:02] <stdin> make sure you have libxine1-ffmpeg
[02:03] <draik> I'm working on my friend's computer, but I cannot get Kaffeine to play. I get the following error messages: You do not have sufficient right and something about missing plugins
[02:03] <Autoscum> Package libxine1-ffmpeg is not available, but is referred to by another package
[02:03] <Autoscum> :/
[02:04] <cloakable> Erp
[02:04] <stdin> Autoscum: open adept manager and go to Adept->Manage Repositories  then enable them all
[02:04] <cloakable> Ahh
[02:04] <stdin> draik: make sure the account has sudo access
[02:04] <draik> stdin: How do I do that?
[02:05] <stdin> draik: try "sudo ls" in a terminal, or go to system settings > User Management and make sure they are in the admin group
[02:05] <Autoscum> stdin: there. got it. :)
[02:06] <Autoscum> it works ^^
[02:06] <Autoscum> yay :P
[02:06] <hagabaka> i have fglrx 8.42.3 installed (fglrxinfo shows that it's working and the ATI control panel says the version is 8.42.3), but compiz still can't start. this is it's output: http://pastie.caboo.se/119294
[02:07] <Autoscum> thank you, stdin :)
[02:07] <stdin> Autoscum: no problem
[02:07] <stdin> hagabaka: you need Xgl (package: xserver-xgl)
[02:07] <flaccid> hagabaka: probably have to install xgl-xserver
[02:07] <hagabaka> what
[02:07] <flaccid> yeah thats the one
[02:07] <hagabaka> i thought people said 8.42.3 didn't need xgl?
[02:08] <vzduch> sounds like ATI.. *urghs*
[02:08] <stdin> if you're using the new driver you need to make sure you've edited the /usr/bin/compiz script to not blacklist it
[02:09] <flaccid> im on ati too. i can't get it to work. xserver-xgl just makes it go all gluggy
[02:09] <draik> stdin: He is in the group
[02:10] <hagabaka> i did edit it
[02:10] <hagabaka> before i did that compiz would just quit and say it's not in the whitelist, now it tries to start
[02:10] <draik> flaccid: I had to uninstall xgl-xserver because it was causing a lag on my system
[02:10] <flaccid> draik: same. how frustrating.
[02:11] <flaccid> thing is should compiz work with flglrx or ati driver?
[02:11] <draik> flaccid: #compiz-fusion
[02:11] <flaccid> ok
[02:11] <hagabaka> everywhere i read says fglrx 8.42.3 should work, e.g. http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[02:11] <draik> stdin: What should I be looking into so that I can get Kaffeine to play a standard DVD movie
[02:11] <draik> ?
[02:12] <NickPresta> !dvd | draik
[02:12] <ubotu> draik: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:12] <Autoscum> uh..
[02:12] <Autoscum> Adept broke :/
[02:12] <stdin> draik: libdvdcss2
[02:12] <NickPresta> Autoscum, how did it break?
[02:12] <Autoscum> when i start it, it launches 2 adepts and says that "another program is using the packaging system"
[02:12] <Autoscum> yeah, i was getting to that :P
[02:12] <draik> stdin: I libdvdcss2 installed
[02:12] <Dr_willis> you do have any other programs closed?
[02:12] <Autoscum> after which it won't run, and the other adept "fades" away
[02:13] <Dr_willis> !fixadept
[02:13] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[02:13] <Autoscum> i restarted X to attempt to fix it
[02:13] <Dr_willis> It may be a lock file. :) restarting X wont fix that.
[02:13] <Autoscum> yeah, that fixed it
[02:13] <Autoscum> thanks a lot :)
[02:14] <stdin> draik: it should work then, make sure you have libdvdnav4,  libdvdplay0 and libdvdread3 installed too
[02:15] <jagcorvair> stdin: libdvdplay0 is not found
[02:15] <jagcorvair> stdin: This is my friend's computer
[02:16] <stdin> that one may be an older package for feisty...
[02:16] <Dr_willis> !find libdvdplay
[02:16] <Dr_willis> Only time i play a dvd is when i rip them to hd. :)
[02:16] <ubotu> Package/file libdvdplay does not exist in gutsy
[02:16] <jagcorvair> Dr_willis: Nothing found with apt-cache search libdvdplay
[02:17] <tekteen> !info libdvdcss2
[02:17] <Dr_willis> !find libdvd
[02:17] <ubotu> Package libdvdcss2 does not exist in gutsy
[02:17] <ubotu> Found: libdvdnav-dev, libdvdnav4, libdvdread-dev, libdvdread3
[02:17] <vzduch> libdvdcss2 is neither in universe nor in multiverse.. you can find it in seveas or medibuntu
[02:18] <vzduch> !medibuntu
[02:18] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[02:18] <Dr_willis> or theres a script i recall in the /usr/share/docs/SOMTHING dir that can installit
[02:18] <jagcorvair> I have libdvdread3 and libdvdnav4 installed and current
[02:18] <stdin> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[02:19] <Dr_willis> http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/deb/libdvdcss2_1.2.5-1_i386.deb
[02:20] <Dr_willis> :) was what it grabbed.. that was quick
[02:20] <jagcorvair> stdin: I just ran that command
[02:20] <vzduch> 1.2.5?  a bit old imho..
[02:20] <jagcorvair> still unable to play a DVD
[02:20] <vzduch> is that install script of Hoary fame? o0
[02:20] <hagabaka> hmm
[02:20] <Dr_willis> how new would it need to be. :) they come out with some new dvds? :P
[02:20] <ardchoille> stdin: You can also add the medibuntu repo, install libdvdcss2 and it'll get updated automatically
[02:21] <vzduch> medibuntu has 1.2.9.. which is already some 2 years old as well afair
[02:21] <stdin> ardchoille: to get it updated, but not installed
[02:21] <jagcorvair> With nosrednaekim's help, I was able to at least get it to recognize the DVD for the prompt. Data DVD still doesn't mount.
[02:21] <ardchoille> stdin: you can install it from medibuntu, I did
[02:21] <stdin> ardchoille: yes, but you can install it with that script
[02:21] <ardchoille> true, but it won't be updated, right?
[02:22] <jagcorvair> ardchoille: It got updated
[02:22] <vzduch> stdin: which is pretty pointless, if w/ the script you get an outdated version and need to update it anyway
[02:22] <stdin> yep, but there isn't much difference between the sources
[02:22]  * stdin has looked and knows
[02:23] <ardchoille> stdin: and the version in medibuntu is more recent than what that script will install
[02:23] <vzduch> I think I remember that the last time the libdvdcss2 pkgs were rolled anew it was because of a security flaw
[02:23] <hagabaka> does Load "glx" mean the same glx as xserver-glx?
[02:23] <stdin> the actual algorithm is unchanged, so the older one works with everything the new one does
[02:24] <tekteen> stdin: It will not change because of old dvd players
[02:25] <tekteen> blueray on the other hand needs all new players for a reason (DRM) :-(
[02:25]  * lavacano201014 disconnects [/ame]
[02:26] <vzduch> lavacano201014: amsgs are lame.. :D
[02:31] <jagcorvair> stdin: Dr_willis: This is the error message I get in details...
[02:31] <jagcorvair> 06:31:14 PM: xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL [dvd:///dev/scd1]
[02:31] <jagcorvair> 06:31:14 PM: xine: input plugin cannot open MRL [dvd:///dev/scd1]
[02:31] <jagcorvair> 06:31:10 PM: xine: found input plugin : DVD Navigator
[02:32] <stdin> take off one slash
[02:32] <stdin> or two, not sure actually
[02:32] <jagcorvair> How
[02:32] <jagcorvair> That is there by default, no?
[02:33] <stdin> open the URL: dvd://dev/scd1
[02:33] <jagcorvair> I saw that as well and wondered about it, but figured it's probably nothing.
[02:33] <jagcorvair> stdin: bash: dvd://dev/scd1: No such file or directory
[02:34] <stdin> "open the URL" does not mean "run the command"
[02:34] <stdin> open the URL in kaffeine
[02:34] <mph> still having issues with systemsettings; any idea why?  here is part of the error:  kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[02:35] <jagcorvair> stdin: Did it in Kaffeine as well. It was taking a while...
[02:35] <jagcorvair> stdin: Nothing. Still the same. I put / and // in front of dev
[02:37] <stdin> opening the URL (Ctrl-U)  "dvd://dev/scd0" in kaffeine works here
[02:38] <vzduch> stdin: 'dvd:///dev/scd0' is the correct syntax
[02:38] <Autoscum> !direct rendering
[02:38] <Autoscum> err
[02:38] <Autoscum> can anyone tell me how i can check if i have direct rendering on?
[02:38] <vzduch> with 'dvd://' being the protocol denominator, and '/dev/scd0' the path to the device
[02:39] <stdin> vzduch: seems both work (but local url should only have one slash)
[02:39] <ardchoille> Autoscum: glxinfo | grep render
[02:39] <stdin> like file:/ URLs
[02:39] <jagcorvair> vzduch: So do it as dvd:///dev/scd1 ?
[02:39] <Autoscum> yes, thank you :P
[02:39] <vzduch> jagcorvair: that would be the other drive, if you have 2
[02:39] <stdin> dvd:///dev/scd1 actually opens //dev/scd0
[02:39] <stdin> *//dev/scd1
[02:39] <jagcorvair> vzduch: first drive is CD burner, no DVD
[02:41] <ardchoille> I know I can do  system:/  and  man:/  in konqueror. But, what other things can I do?
[02:41] <Dr_willis> check out the kde help for 'kioslaves'
[02:41] <Dr_willis> it has info on them there. apt:/ is another and smb:/
[02:41] <Dr_willis> and proberly a dozen others i dont rember :)
[02:41] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: Ah, thanks
[02:42] <stdin> lots, help:/ audiocd:/ apt:/ smb:/ nfs:/ sftp:/ etc...
[02:42] <Dr_willis> fish:/
[02:42] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:42] <ardchoille> Wow, I need to be making bookmarks for these
[02:42] <stdin> no fish, just eaten :)
[02:42] <Dr_willis> theres no porn:/
[02:42] <vzduch> lo
[02:42] <ardchoille> haha
[02:42] <vzduch> lol
[02:43] <jagcorvair> lol
[02:43] <stdin> applications:/ is a good one if kicker dies
[02:43] <jagcorvair> What else could I be missing?
[02:44] <stdin> are you on gutsy?
[02:44] <stdin> if so, try installing "kubuntu-restricted-extras" to grab everything you can
[02:44] <jagcorvair> Yes
[02:45] <jagcorvair> stdin: Already installed
[02:45] <stdin> then you should have everything
[02:45] <vzduch> as far as my Fedora 7 is concerned, the only libdvd* files you need are libdvdread, libdvdnav and libdvdcss
[02:45] <stdin> try in another player maybe
[02:46] <vzduch> another possibility would be that you just need to wait a little longer for the popup window to appear.. I have that w/ audio CDs
[02:47] <jagcorvair> Codeine didn't work
[02:47] <Nyle> hey
[02:47] <stdin> I'd say to try mplayer, if it doesn't play in that then VLC
[02:47] <Nyle> what do you do with codeine is not good for you
[02:48] <Nyle> i would say to try SMPlayer
[02:48] <stdin> yeah, mplayer
[02:48] <Nyle> its based on mlayer, and uses it, but is a full fledg media player
[02:48] <jagcorvair> gxine failed
[02:48] <stdin> it IS mplayer, it's just a GUI
[02:48] <Nyle> smplayer is awesome
[02:48] <Nyle> its better than a gui
[02:48] <Nyle> its a super gui
[02:48] <Nyle> fo real
[02:49] <stdin> I know what it is, smplayer is a Qt3/KDE/Qt4 GUI to mplayer
[02:49] <jagcorvair> mplayer failed
[02:50] <stdin> mplayer should have posted a (rather verbose) error message, pastebin it
[02:50] <jagcorvair> KMPlayer states: Player xine not running
[02:50] <[ka]killer> humm
[02:50] <[ka]killer> you may be having the same problem i had eariler
[02:50] <[ka]killer> join #xine for help with xine isues
[02:50] <[ka]killer> they helped me out alot
[02:50] <vzduch> jagcorvair: you have it set to use the Xine backend.. set it to use the MPlayer backend
[02:51] <jagcorvair> vzduch: Set which? How?
[02:51] <vzduch> KMPlayer
[02:51] <[ka]killer> i just use kaffeine
[02:51] <jagcorvair> On my computer, I use kaffeine without a problem. This is my friend's computer and it's a pain.
[02:52] <[ka]killer> has he tried VLC?
[02:53] <[ka]killer> sorry if this has already been asked, i r slowpoke
[02:53] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: Thanks for the kioslaves tip, lots of urls there :)
[02:53] <Dr_willis> Yep - it pays to explore the Help docs. :)
[02:53] <ardchoille> Indeed
[02:53] <Autoscum> hey, guys, i installed a package called "crystalspace" it's a 3d game development kit
[02:53] <Dr_willis> theres some FUSE addons that let you access the kioslaves stuff as if they were directories i hear also.
[02:53] <Autoscum> but i cant find it in the menu
[02:54] <Dr_willis> but ive never tried it.
[02:54] <Autoscum> where can i run it from? :/
[02:54] <Dr_willis> !info crystalspace
[02:54] <ubotu> crystalspace: Multiplatform 3D Game Development Kit. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 38139 kB, installed size 94956 kB
[02:54] <Dr_willis> Autoscum,  it may not be a actual runable game.
[02:54] <Autoscum> it's a game development kit...
[02:54] <Autoscum> li:P
[02:54] <Dr_willis> check out apt:/  in konqueror to see what files it installed and check its docs.
[02:54] <Autoscum> ignore the li..
[02:55] <jagcorvair> [ka]killer: VLC won't work
[02:55] <[ka]killer> o
[02:55] <[ka]killer> dam
[02:55] <Dr_willis> or is it apt:\
[02:55] <[ka]killer> when xine gave me isues mplayer and vlc were the only 2 that worked
[02:55] <vzduch> good night folks .)
[02:55] <vzduch> :)
[02:55] <jagcorvair> vzduch: How do I change the engine?
[02:55] <jagcorvair> To KMPlayer
[02:56] <vzduch> hmm.. I don't have KMPlayer installed here.. can't tell out of my head :(
[02:56] <vzduch> anyway, I'm off for tonight
[02:56] <Autoscum> whatever, i'm off too
[02:56] <Autoscum> it's 5 AM almost
[02:56] <Autoscum> so.. 'night all :D
[02:57] <jagcorvair> How do I change the engine to Kmplayer?
[02:57] <[ka]killer> settings?
[02:58] <jagcorvair> [ka]killer: Ok. I have a tab for xine and mplayer
[02:58] <jagcorvair> None of which state which I want for default
[02:58] <[ka]killer> ok.... no clue then
[02:59] <jagcorvair> Is there a way to change it on Kaffeine?
[02:59] <[ka]killer> ive used mplayer, vlc and kaffeine
[02:59] <[ka]killer> kaffeine can use gstreamer
[02:59] <[ka]killer> i dont know how it works but ive seen the plugin
[02:59] <biovore> depends kmplayer was designed orgional for mplayer.. xine was a easy add on they added..
[03:00] <jagcorvair> :(
[03:00] <jagcorvair> kak[ZzZ]: Thanks
[03:00] <jagcorvair> I just want to have Kaffeine working to play DVDs
[03:01] <biovore> jagcorvair: need dvd decss
[03:01] <biovore> !dvd
[03:01] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:01] <jagcorvair> I have those.
[03:01] <jagcorvair> biovore: I'm almost at the end of this.
[03:02] <biovore> I use xine or mplayer for dvd's here..
[03:02] <jagcorvair> I use Kaffeine on my desktop
[03:02] <jagcorvair> I copied all of my packages to this computer
[03:02] <jagcorvair> Everything should be identical
[03:02] <jagcorvair> Right?
[03:02] <biovore> maybe..
[03:03] <mrtimbo> !kernel
[03:03] <ubotu> The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages
[03:04] <flake> has the samba repo been fixed yet
[03:05] <stdin> flake: should be, worked here
[03:05] <flake> thanks, was offline for a couple of days
[03:06] <flake> it was
[03:06] <jagcorvair> biovore: in kaffeine, should I have dvd.device (device used for DVD playback) pointed to /dev/dvd or /dev/scd1?
[03:07] <biovore> I think /dev/dvd is a symlink to your dvd device..
[03:08] <biovore> use your actual device.. can't fail.. (if you have the correct permissions)
[03:08] <biovore> If you use a command line program like mplayer, if you don't have decss, it will complain alot and you get blocky video with green in it.
[03:09] <jagcorvair> biovore: if you have the correct permissions? How do I check on that?
[03:10] <bobleny> Is there a way to reset Konqueror's file association settings?
[03:10] <jagcorvair> !dolphin
[03:10] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[03:11] <jagcorvair> bobleny: That's for you
[03:11] <jagcorvair> !dolphin | bobleny
[03:11] <ubotu> bobleny: please see above
[03:11] <bobleny> I have dolphin....
[03:11] <bobleny> I hate it...
[03:11] <stdin> read the info then
[03:11] <jagcorvair> bobleny: Follow the instructions from ubotu
[03:12] <hero> for some reason, when i try to configure the screensaver, the list is empty.  anyone know if that's a bug or not?
[03:14] <bobleny> Thats great and all, but I need to reset the image file associations....
[03:14]  * genii sips a coffee
[03:15] <hero> yeah, so if i go to the screensaver settings (using gutsy), the screensaver list is empty
[03:16] <hero> n/m
[03:16] <hero> guess you have to be root
[03:16] <hero> or not?
[03:16] <hero> hm
[03:16] <hero> i tried to change the screensaver using kdesu kcontrol
[03:16] <hero> doesn't affect anything though
[03:17] <SudoKing> How do I set the screen resolution?
[03:18] <hero> guess no one cares :~(
[03:18] <alfonso> hello! i just bought a dell inspiron 1420 and it came with vista (i had no choice), i formatted the hd and installed kubuntu gusty
[03:18] <hagabaka> hero: you don't need to use kdesu for changing screen saver
[03:19] <hero> hagabaka: well, if i just run the kcontrol for it, i have no list of screen savers.  if i run it kdesu i have the list. but changing it doesn't do anything
[03:19] <hero> so i'm not sure if it's a gutsy bug or not
[03:19] <ardchoille> hero: Knowing this channel, it isn't that no one cares, more likely no one has ever seen that problem and knows how to fix it.
[03:19] <hero> ardchoille: yeah, i know. sorry for whining
[03:19] <alfonso> two things are still not working, the webcam is still not working
[03:19] <hero> it's just weird
[03:19] <alfonso> its a mounted webcam
[03:20] <hero> i tried to reinstall the screen saver packages, but it makes no difference
[03:20] <ardchoille> hero: Wait, there are no scr's in the list when you view it as user but when you view it as root, they are there?
[03:20] <hero> yep
[03:20] <hero> weird, eh?
[03:20] <ardchoille> hero: Been playing with permissions on system files/folders?
[03:20] <hero> nope
[03:20] <ardchoille> Wel it sounds like the read perms on the scr's have changed
[03:21] <hero> where are they located usually?
[03:21] <ardchoille> mine are in /usr/lib/xscreensaver
[03:21] <hero> k
[03:21] <ardchoille> Not sure if yours will be there too
[03:21] <SudoKing> how do I set the screen resolution?
[03:22] <hero> ardchoille: in that list, all entries have read permissions
[03:22] <hero> for example:  -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root   43508 2007-06-11 18:01 penrose
[03:22] <ardchoille> SudoKing: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:22] <SudoKing> thanks
[03:22] <alfonso> how do i enable a fixed webcam on a dell inspiron 1420?
[03:22] <ardchoille> hero: It was just a guess
[03:22] <hero> yeah, it doesn't make any sense
[03:23] <ardchoille> hero: Yeah, it's weird
[03:23] <hero> maybe i should purge all the screen saver packages? and then reinstall?
[03:23] <ardchoille> You could try that
[03:24] <hero> alright
[03:28] <Dr_willis> could try making a new user - see if they have the proper settings.
[03:29] <wolf8> morning
[03:30] <hero> yea, i guess
[03:30] <hero> well purging them doesn't make any difference
[03:30] <hero> kdescreensaver relies on xscreensaver, though, right?
[03:31] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. My server just crashed.. ssh sessionis locked up.. other remote programs locked up..
[03:31] <Dr_willis> Bummber
[03:32] <Dr_willis> wonder what did that. :(  Now i have to walk all the way downstairs to reset it. :P
[03:32] <hagabaka> is the compiz and compiz-kde packages for "Compiz-Fusion"?
[03:32] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: yeah.. walking.. bummer :P
[03:32] <Dr_willis> hagabaka,  yes  compiz in kubuntu/ubuntu is compiz-fusion
[03:33] <hagabaka> ok
[03:34] <vasilisa> why wont gparted finish scanning my devices??
[03:34] <Dr_willis> brb.. got to walk all the way downstairs! :) heh .
[03:34] <sFEARs> hello
[03:35] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: Why don't you just ssh.. oh wait
[03:35] <SudoKing> Is there a way for me to set the resolution to higher than 1024x768?
[03:36] <ardchoille> SudoKing: That command I gave you should have allowed you to do that
[03:36] <SudoKing> I tried..but the screen stayed the same..
[03:36] <SudoKing> after I changed it
[03:36] <ardchoille> SudoKing: Did you restart xorg?
[03:36] <SudoKing> no how do I do that?
[03:37] <ardchoille> save all your work, then do: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[03:37] <ardchoille> SudoKing: That command wil restar x but kde will exit in the process
[03:38] <hero> i've never been able to get kdm to work
[03:38] <hero> i have to use gdm for some reason because everytime i use kdm, it always logs in to like an empty session
[03:39] <sFEARs> if i compile a driver under one kernel, will it work with a different version of the same kernel.. example 2.6.20-15 and 2.6.20-16
[03:40] <sFEARs> or i guess i should say should it work?
[03:40] <ardchoille> sFEARs: Would this be an nvidia driver?
[03:42] <sFEARs> no.. actually a driver to get some special keys to work on my laptop keyboard
[03:42] <ardchoille> Ah, ok
[03:42] <hero> weird
[03:42] <sFEARs> my internal wireless needs to be turned on by a special key, and i can't seem to get header files for my low latency kernal to comiple the driver i found for it
[03:43] <hero> apparently kubuntu-desktop was never installed?
[03:43] <ardchoille> hero: That's odd. Did you initially install gnome and then kde?
[03:43] <sFEARs> i sucessfully compiled it and i have the binary file.. but i'm kinda n00b and i'm not sure what to do with the binary file
[03:43] <hero> ardchoille: back in the day, yeah
[03:44] <hero> i used an ubuntu livecd to install initially, then switched to feisty
[03:44] <ardchoille> hero: It may be that you install kde instead of kubuntu-desktop
[03:44] <hero> then upgraded to gutsy
[03:44] <sFEARs> or if it is even configured to work with my -16 kernel since it was compiled on the -15 kernel
[03:44] <hero> ardchoille: ?
[03:44] <sFEARs> any ideas?
[03:45] <sFEARs> i don't even know what the hell a kernel is.. but i've managed to get a couple things working so far
[03:45] <ardchoille> hero: That's one of the reasons I do't do upgrades, it just isn't as clean as a fresh install.
[03:47] <hero> yeah
[03:47] <hero> i could use a fresh instal
[03:47] <hero> but i don't want to back up everything
[03:47] <hero> and i'm hoping downloading kubuntu-desktop won't break the system
[03:47] <hero> esp since it's getting linux-headers and such
[03:49] <hero> maybe it will get the boot splash to work, though
[03:49] <sFEARs> i can't get my boot splash to work either
[03:49] <sFEARs> i think it has something to do with the size of the mbr or something
[03:50] <hero> yeah, gutsy's is broken
[03:50] <Tm_T> erm
[03:50] <hero> i'm sure there's a fix, but i've been too lazy to do anything about it
[03:50] <sFEARs> something about needing to be 1k and actually being 4k or something
[03:50] <hero> i still can't figure out how to disable the bell in xchat
[03:50] <hero> pisses me off
[03:51] <sFEARs> what the bell?
[03:51] <sFEARs> what's*
[03:51] <hero> it's a *ding* sound
[03:51] <hero> or a *beep* sound
[03:51] <sFEARs> system sounds?
[03:52] <ardchoille> hero: Does xchat have a menu item to edit "notifications"?
[03:52] <hero> dunno
[03:52] <sFEARs> xchat/settings/prefs/sounds
[03:52] <ardchoille> That would take care of the bell I would think
[03:52] <sFEARs> it's in there
[03:52] <sFEARs> more specific... xchat/settings/prefs/chatting/sounds
[03:53] <hero> it has a sounds menu, but "beep" has no entry
[03:53] <ubuntu> hi
[03:53] <jasonago> anyone has experience installing xampp in kubuntu? Are there any "one-shot" installer for lamp?
[03:53] <sFEARs> go thru and play each sound untill you find the one you don't like and turn it off
[03:53] <vasilisa> !fsck
[03:53] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[03:53] <ubuntu> i need help
[03:54] <jasonago> ubuntu: Just ask....
[03:54] <sFEARs> way to state the obvious ubuntu
[03:54] <hero> sFEARs: they're all turned off
[03:54] <ubuntu> how do i keep windows while installing Ubuntu?
[03:54] <sFEARs> then it's not xchat causing the bell?
[03:55] <jasonago> ubuntu: create a seperate partition in your harddrive...one for linux, one for windows...
[03:55] <sFEARs> if your using the live cd ubuntu it will prompt you to resize the partition manually.. resize leaving windows on one part and install linux on the addition partition and it will give you a dual boot system
[03:56] <daffytheduck> hi ive got a problem with my internett after about an hour or so It drops out and i have to open up the network config and refresh the connection can anyone help thnx
[03:56] <sFEARs> once you have linux installed you may need to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file, but it's fairly easy and usually doesn't need done
[03:57] <hero> xchat is the only program that has a bell, though
[03:57] <hero> if i do a backspace in a terminal, i get a visible bell - which is good
[03:58] <sFEARs> if it's a sound xchat is sending i would imagine it would have to be in the xchat sounds prefs
[03:58] <hero> but it's not
[03:58] <hero> all the sound entries are empty
[04:00] <sFEARs> try changing the sound files directory
[04:04] <daffytheduck> hi ive got a problem with my internett after about an hour or so It drops out and i have to open up the network config and refresh the connection can anyone help thnx
[04:06] <hero> yeah, changing the beep to another sound makes no difference
[04:09] <sFEARs> does anyone know the /server command flag to connect to a separte network
[04:09] <Stingball> Since I upgraded to Gutsey I seem to have taked a 40% hit in proformance can I get some help finding out why?
[04:09] <sFEARs> i used to use /server -m... but that doesn't seem to work anymore
[04:10] <sFEARs> what did you upgrade from Stingball?
[04:10] <Stingball> Now ever windoze si faster
[04:10] <Stingball> Fesity
[04:10] <sFEARs> windows has always been faster for me
[04:10] <Stingball> my feistry was faster
[04:10] <sFEARs> is everything slower... or just boot, just opening apps?
[04:11] <Stingball> everything
[04:11] <sFEARs> mabey use a different kernel?
[04:11] <Stingball> there used to be IDE dma settings cant find them
[04:11] <wols> Stingball: hdparm
[04:11] <Stingball> I dont know I have upgraded other machines
[04:12] <wols> also dmeg|grep bm
[04:12] <wols> sFEARs: depends on the irc client. mine uses /connect
[04:12] <Stingball> wols: thanks
[04:12] <sFEARs> connect by itslef for a separte network connection?
[04:12] <mot_> stupid question: how do you install a .deb by hand?
[04:12] <mot_> (sorry, used to rpm-based systems)
[04:12] <sFEARs> "/connect irc.whatever.com"?
[04:13] <mot_> sFEARs, some clients use "/server irc.whatever.com"
[04:13] <wols> mot_: dpkg
[04:13] <mot_> .whois sFEARs
[04:13] <sFEARs> well if i use the /server command it disconnects my current server and connects
[04:13] <Stingball> wols: whats the best setting for hdpram
[04:14] <mot_> sFEARs, in xchat, hit CTRL + N (to open a new tab in xchat) and then type: /server irc.whatever.net
[04:14] <sFEARs> i used to the /server -m and the -m flag connected to separate
[04:14] <wols> Stingball: does not exist
[04:14] <mot_> hit ctrl + n to open a new tab in xchat
[04:14] <mot_> then do it.
[04:14] <mot_> sorry
[04:14] <mot_> ctrl + t
[04:15] <sFEARs> that would work but i'd rather do it directally from the command line
[04:16] <Stingball> wols: dmeg not found
[04:17] <wols> dmesg
[04:17] <sFEARs> xchat/settings/prefs/chatting/alerts.. uncheck all make a beep sound on
[04:18] <sFEARs> that sould take care of your bell issue
[04:18] <Stingball> wols:
[04:18] <Stingball>    69.722139] ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xf8816200 ctl 0xf8816238 bmdma 0x00000000 irq 17
[04:18] <Stingball> [   69.722143] ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xf8816280 ctl 0xf88162b8 bmdma 0x00000000 irq 17
[04:18] <Stingball> [   69.722145] ata3: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0xf8816300 ctl 0xf8816338 bmdma 0x00000000 irq 17
[04:18] <Stingball> [   70.502490] ata4: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x0001e800 ctl 0x0001e402 bmdma 0x0001d400 irq 19
[04:18] <Stingball> [   70.502493] ata5: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x0001e000 ctl 0x0001d802 bmdma 0x0001d408 irq 19
[04:18] <Stingball> [   95.043118] /build/buildd/linux-source-2.6.22-2.6.22/drivers/hid/usbhid/hid-core.c: usb_submit_urb(ctrl) failed
[04:18] <Stingball> [33003.584000] /build/buildd/linux-source-2.6.22-2.6.22/drivers/hid/usbhid/hid-core.c: usb_submit_urb(ctrl) failed
[04:18] <coreymon77> !paste | Stingball
[04:18] <ubotu> Stingball: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:19] <sFEARs> try booting up with a different kernel & see what happens
[04:19] <Stingball> got the message
[04:22] <hero> yeah, still empty screensaver list.
[04:22] <hero> hrm
[04:23] <Stingball> hero: apt-get install xscreensavee
[04:23] <Stingball> hero: apt-get install xscreensaver sorry
[04:24] <hero> it's installed already
[04:25] <sFEARs> is the xscreensaver separate from the standard screen savers?.. i have two separate screen savers on another computer.. black screen w/ a big x that floats around.. i can't figure out how to turn it off
[04:26] <Stingball> sFEARs: I belive they are both listed in the gui
[04:26] <hero> i'm reading from this:  https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+question/5488
[04:26] <sFEARs> i guess it's something different then.. you can't load 2 screen savers from the gui can you?
[04:27] <Stingball> nope
[04:30] <wols> !Stanton John Connolly - [Charlie Parker 01] - Every Dead Thing (com v4.0) [html, jpg].rar
[04:31] <bobito> hey, can anyone help me out?
[04:31] <bobito> ...silence......
[04:32] <wols> bobito: sure. google for "smart questions"
[04:32] <bobito> thanks wols
[04:32] <wols> alternatively workaround.org has a "how to get help on irc". sorely recommendede
[04:33] <bobito> simple, claim i'm getting sick of linux users who don't help, and bitch about how much better windows was?
[04:33] <sFEARs> i would try the create a new user account.. log in..  and see if you have any screen savers
[04:33] <hero> i'm sure that will work
[04:33] <hero> i think it has something to do with xgl shit
[04:34] <hero> er, stuff
[04:34] <sFEARs> you mean how much better windows is?
[04:34] <sFEARs> you say was like it went somewhere.
[04:34] <bobito> not on my computer anymore, so relatively speaking, yea
[04:34] <bobito> it went away
[04:35] <sFEARs> IC
[04:35] <sFEARs> linux is absolutely a pain in the ass
[04:35] <bobito> i used to love it, just haven'y had time to play around since i got to college
[04:36] <sFEARs> yeah.. takes time
[04:36] <bobito> just installed gusty, wondering why adept won't show me any packages that aren't already installed
[04:36] <wols> bobito: that claim is an easy way to /ignore and depending on a ops mood, ban
[04:36] <hero> the screen saver list populates if i run kcontrol with root permissions
[04:36] <hero> but not if i do it myself
[04:36] <hero> and changing it with root permissions doesn't have any effect
[04:36] <wols> bobito: pastebin your sources.list
[04:36] <bobito> it was a bad attempt at a joke wols, sorry
[04:39] <bobito> normal sources.list document, except for the bottom few lines, claimes installer commented out some gutsy security pages
[04:39] <sFEARs> where can i change my user name in xchat
[04:40] <sFEARs> can't connect to a server becuase of an invalid user name but i can't find where to change it.. i remember setting it when i first opened
[04:40] <hero> try #xchat
[04:40] <sFEARs> thanks
[04:40] <hero> so is there a directory i can delete that lists the screensavers?
[04:40] <hero> that will repopulate or something?
[04:41] <bobito> wols?
[04:42] <wols> bobito: either you do what I ask you to do or I can't/won't help you
[04:42] <bobito> what exactly is pastebin then?
[04:42] <bobito> sorry
[04:42] <wols> !paste
[04:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:43] <bobito> okay, did it
[04:43] <bobito> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44976/
[04:43] <bobito> thanks
[04:43] <hero> even if i can login as another user and there is a list, that doesn't tell me how to get the list to populate in my user
[04:43] <hero> bleh
[04:44] <sFEARs> found it under network list
[04:45] <bobito> !paste http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44976/
[04:47] <hero> damn it.  all i want to do is change the screen saver! i've tried everything and STILL NO LIST!
[04:48] <hero> and i wonder why even in the bug listings there is no real fix for it
[04:48] <hero> i can't believe no one else has had this problem
[04:48] <wols> bobito: everything except your install cdrom is commented out. of course there are no packages
[04:48] <hero> i wish i had never upgraded to gutsy
[04:48] <sFEARs> hero.. have you logged in as a new user?
[04:49] <hero> what a worthless release
[04:49] <bobito> yea, i just realized that
[04:49] <sFEARs> might fix you right up
[04:49] <bobito> are all of them supposed to be uncommented
[04:49] <bobito> or only some of them?
[04:49] <hero> what makes you think that will make any difference?
[04:49] <wols> pretty much
[04:49] <hero> the screen saver list works with another user.  i want it to work with MY user.
[04:49] <bobito> so I should just go through deleting the lines "line commented out by...
[04:50] <bobito> and getting rid of the # in front of all the URL ones
[04:50] <wols> you should go and delete the # in from of deb* lines too
[04:50] <bobito> what are those?
[04:52] <wols> those are youre repositories you want
[04:52] <bobito> now, for hopefully my last stupid question, It won't let me delete anything, do I need to log in as root/admin or something?
[04:53] <wols> to edit that file? yes
[04:53] <bobito> how?
[04:53] <wols> become root, or start your editor as root
[04:53] <bobito> sudo su
[04:54] <bobito> still says permission denied
[04:54] <bobito> ya know what, this I can probably find online
[04:55] <bobito> thanks for all the help wols
[04:55] <wols> sudo bash
[04:55] <wols> nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:56] <bobito> did it, it worked.  what is nano?
[04:56] <wols> an editor
[05:05] <ectospasm> nano sucsk, vim for the win!
[05:10] <LinuxKeitaro> hello
[05:11] <LinuxKeitaro> why does kubuntu 7.10 not have some way to add printers?
[05:13] <vasilisa>  ~help~ :  I just reinstalled everything on this SATA, and im having a major partition crisis. My data partition (seperate from system) is 170 gigs. 110 gigs are in use... and 6 gigs are free? Thats not all. Gparted and parted in general freeze on startup. And what is this:::  Invalid argument while trying to resize /dev/sda1
[05:15] <LinuxKeitaro> I figured it out, it's just in a different place than I expected
[05:19] <hero> where does kcontrol store per-user prefs?
[05:20] <wols> all user data is in ~
[05:20] <maduser> !irc
[05:20] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[05:20] <hero> wols: THANKS! I DIDN'T KNOW THAT!
[05:20]  * hero shakes his head
[05:21] <wols> good atitude. great way to entice people
[05:21] <hero> great way to answer a question
[05:23] <mot_> any reason that by default all of my fonts in kde (specifically firefox) look huge?
[05:25] <maduser> your fonts could be other then Sans Serif 9
[05:30] <leafw> what's up with feisty's "not authenticated" samba upgrade packages?
[05:30] <leafw> is that a known issue ?
[05:42] <scienceboy> for some reason, my comp won't update. if i try, it says some other application is using it, and then it crashes, and i get the following message
[05:43] <scienceboy> !pastebin
[05:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:43] <scienceboy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/44978/
[05:45] <wols> astro76: use aptitude
[05:45] <wols> scienceboy: ^^
[05:45] <scienceboy> astro76: k
[05:45] <wols> the astro76 was a typo
[05:45] <scienceboy> oh
[05:45] <scienceboy> lol
[05:45] <hero> so yeah.  what program acutally runs when you "lock desktop"?
[05:45] <scienceboy> um, wats aptitude?
[05:46] <wols> scienceboy: a program
[05:46] <scienceboy> wols: k
[05:46] <scienceboy> wols: where can i get it
[05:46] <wols> you already have it
[05:46] <scienceboy> wols: you mean adept update manager?
[05:46] <wols> no
[05:47] <scienceboy> i don't see it under system
[05:47] <scienceboy> or utilities
[05:47] <wols> it'S not there
[05:47] <scienceboy> where is it
[05:47] <wols>  /usr/bin/aptitude
[05:50] <scienceboy> i put that into konquerer and it asked me if i wanted to run it but nothings happening after i hit yes
[05:53] <caslpik> hello, anybody can help me?
[05:53] <wols> scienceboy: open an xterm, run it
[05:53] <caslpik> I need run Photoshop CS
[05:54] <scienceboy> wats xterm? consol?
[05:54] <wols> any terminal
[05:59] <maduser> !xterm
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xterm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <scienceboy> !kubuntu
[05:59] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[06:02] <maduser> !KDE
[06:02] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[06:07] <scienceboy> it told me  to do dpkg blah blah blah, so i did that and its running. told me to do some sort of developer's package thing, so i'm doin ghtat also. thanks for the help
[06:07] <scienceboy> :)
[06:08] <scienceboy> !KDE
[06:08] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[06:09] <scienceboy> !desktop environment
[06:09] <vbgunz> amarok is refusing to start. anyone know how to fix this?
[06:10] <vbgunz> just trying to launch iot from command line to see if I could get any feedback I get this: Amarok: [Loader] Amarok is taking a long time to load! Perhaps something has gone wrong?
[06:10] <hydrogen> yes, the gutsy upgrade likes to break Amarok kind of regularly
[06:10] <scienceboy> [01:09] <ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[06:10] <vbgunz> hydrogen: :(
[06:10] <hydrogen> try moving ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/ ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc out of the way
[06:10] <vbgunz> my amarok is busted :(
[06:11] <vbgunz> ok
[06:11] <hydrogen> or delete them if you don't care that much about your collection statistics
[06:11] <scienceboy> yeah, one time it only accepted input into amarok - if i hit anything, it would interpritit it as an error
[06:11] <scienceboy> why don't you try restarting your comp? that might help
[06:12] <vbgunz> heh, I'd use Windows if restarting meant the solution ;)
[06:12] <justin___> hey
[06:13] <vbgunz> hydrogen: hmm. I did exactly as you said. now when I start amarok. I can see a blank placeholder for it in the system tray... but it appears it still doesn't load :(
[06:13] <hydrogen> try killall amarokapp
[06:13] <hydrogen> then again
[06:13] <vbgunz> hydrogen: heh, I did, even apt-get install --resintall
[06:13] <vbgunz> I'll try again, one sec
[06:14] <justin___> hey all
[06:14] <justin___> Im new to this linux chat
[06:15] <vbgunz> arrgggh... amarok is busted :(
[06:15] <oriongaby> hello
[06:15] <vbgunz> hydrogen: amarok is problematic on GUtsy huh?
[06:16] <justin___> can anyone tell me why some linux OSs still use command line part of the time for install and etc?
[06:16] <NickPresta> Any way to resolve the problem of log_daemon_msg not being found?
[06:18] <justin___> orion
[06:18] <vbgunz> hydrogen: figured it out
[06:19] <justin___> is anyone going to answer me?
[06:19] <NickPresta> ah nevermind. I solved my own problem. I'll just use echo -n instead of sourcing /lib/lsb/init-functions.
[06:19] <vbgunz> something about another account having mount dialogs open messed up the amarok and kaffeine... the only difference between those 2 is amarok wouldn't show up and kaffeine would... kaffeine would freeze though if I tried to play someting
[06:22] <vbgunz> nevermind... amarok is still busted... it shows up but won't play... it now freezes... kaffeine plays it now.... damn...
[06:24] <vbgunz> forget it, amarok and kaffeine is busted... wow. I am burnt beyond compare
[06:26] <vbgunz> heh forget it. amarok is on crack along with the rest of ebverything else
[06:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> justin___: because different distros target different crowds
[06:33] <Tm_T> justin___: something wrong with commandline?
[06:33]  * genii sips apple juice
[06:44] <genii> Anyone alive?
[06:44] <genii> I'd like some recommendation for knetwork manager replacement
[06:49] <pacman> what do I need to download to extract rar files
[06:50] <ardchoille> !rar
[06:50] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[07:01] <MilitantPotato> What program should I use to make a backup of a DVD movie that will fit on a 4.7gb disc?
[07:01] <ardchoille> k9copy
[07:03] <MilitantPotato> thank you :)
[07:03] <ardchoille> yw
[07:05] <MilitantPotato> is getting gutsy proposed updates risky?
[07:05] <ardchoille> That word "proposed" keeps me away from it
[07:06] <MilitantPotato> same here, but i've learned assuming anything in linux is a bad idea
[07:06] <NickPresta> where are gutsy proposed updates?
[07:07] <MilitantPotato> pre-release
[07:07] <NickPresta> ah
[07:07] <ardchoille> I got burned by backports once too, I don't use them anymore either.
[07:08] <MilitantPotato> yea I'm not even going to mess with the backports
[07:10] <ardchoille> My sources.list is 6 lines
[07:12] <NickPresta> I have ~10 in my sources.list
[07:14] <user__> ы
[07:15] <bobrzloy> hi all
[07:15] <mot_> what's the package name for glib?
[07:15] <wols> libglib propably
[07:16] <NickPresta> libglib2.0-0, IIRC
[07:18] <ardchoille> I have lines in my sources.list file that begin with "deb-src", do I even need those?
[07:19] <mot_> yes
[07:20] <NickPresta> only if you want to ever download the source instead of the binaries
[07:20] <NickPresta> I add those lines on a need-to-have basis
[07:21] <ardchoille> Ah, then my sources.list file is only threelines
[07:21] <NickPresta> lol
[07:22] <ardchoille> http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/?show=m3343596a
[07:22] <NickPresta> Ah. so you have a fairly safe sources.list
[07:22] <NickPresta> can you pastebin `apt-cache stats`?
[07:22] <ardchoille> Probably one reason I've never had any problems with *buntu
[07:24] <ardchoille> http://ardchoille.pastebin.us/?show=m4cbf9341
[07:24] <NickPresta> strange
[07:24] <ardchoille> NickPresta: IS that good?
[07:25] <NickPresta> you have the same number of packages that I have but I have more repos in my sources.list
[07:26] <NickPresta> actually, i only have a couple more repos and they're small. I suppose it makes sense
[07:28] <ardchoille> Well, I need this box to be as stable as possible so I don't install anything outside of the official repos
[07:31] <ardchoille> Is it possible to change the text that's in the titlebar of konsole?
[07:32] <NickPresta> I know you can use escape sequences to do it (I've done it with C++)
[07:36] <reldruh> hello. I just did a fresh reinstall of Kubuntu from discs sent to me by shipit and now whenever I try and install a package, I get the error message that the changes could not be commited, possibly because of an error downloading the packages or because the commit would break packages. This happens from the adept updater. Does anybody know the cause and or a solution?
[07:37] <ardchoille> reldruh: Well, the first thing I would do is..
[07:37] <ardchoille> make sure the sources are updated: sudo apt-get update
[07:37] <ardchoille> then try updating: sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:37] <MilitantPotato> where are the k9copy config files located?
[07:37] <ardchoille> and see if the error is still there
[07:38] <ardchoille> MilitantPotato: ~/.kde/share/config
[07:38] <MilitantPotato> reldruh: I was getting that error because of the samba bug
[07:38] <ardchoille> There are two of them: k9copy and k9copyrc
[07:38] <reldruh> ardchoille: still there :-(
[07:38] <reldruh> MilitantPotato: a samba bug?
[07:38] <MilitantPotato> !sambabug
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sambabug - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:39] <MilitantPotato> must be gone :P
[07:39] <NickPresta> MilitantPotato, it was fixed today
[07:39] <ardchoille> I was told that the samba bug has been fixed
[07:39] <reldruh> it's odd, adept says the packages are installed, even after giving me the error
[07:39] <reldruh> and I checked to see if the files were there and they are
[07:40] <reldruh> could I just be getting the message but the packages are still being installed? And would I be affected by the samba bug if I'm not using samba at all? This is a fresh install, I haven't done anything but try the adept updater
[07:40] <ardchoille> My adept notifier is running, has been running all day. But it doesn't pop up in the tray until I do sudo apt-get update. Why?
[07:41] <MilitantPotato> ardchoille: what was the command you used to find those files?
[07:41] <ardchoille> MilitantPotato: (in $HOME) ls .kde/share/config | grep k9copy
[07:47] <ardchoille> MilitantPotato: sorry, ls .kde/share/config | grep 9
[07:56] <ardchoille> I can't believe how quiet this channel is
[07:58]  * NickPresta makes noise :)
[07:59] <ardchoille> hehe
[07:59]  * Daisuke_Ido is too busy enjoying the soothing sounds of Sun Kil Moon
[08:03] <ardchoille> How do I configure adept updater?
[08:03] <ardchoille> It doesn't popup in the tray until after I do "sudo apt-get update"
[08:29] <ComPro> hey, i'm trying to get dual head working. i almost have it, but the monitors are reversed. i cant swap the cables because i'm dual booting and windows reads it the other way. editing xorg.conf has led me nowhere. i can't seem to make the lefthand monitor the primary display.
[08:35] <tuco_> Hi all. Since upgrading to Gutsy my laptop won't turn off automatically, I have to press the rest button for a couple of seconds each time I want to turn the laptop off.
[08:53] <Chris> almost, but not quite
[08:54] <ardchoille> Ah, well, two people
[08:57] <_Angelus_> guys, i made a fresh kubuntu install and when i try to run wine the first time my pc is crashing, any help?
[09:04] <jdlizard> can anyone help with a ndiswrapper problem
[09:04] <GrahamA> jdlizard: Yes... yes I can...
[09:05] <[ifr0g]> no i can...
[09:05] <jdlizard> ok i upgraded to gusty now ndiswrapper makes my system lock up
[09:05] <jdlizard> never did in feisty
[09:05] <GrahamA> jdlizard: Be specific
[09:05] <GrahamA> Locks up when what happens?
[09:05] <jdlizard> modprobe but maybe 30 seconds after that
[09:06] <GrahamA> In adept, purge the packages and reinstall them.
[09:06] <jdlizard> i have done this
[09:06] <jdlizard> and i installed also from source
[09:06] <jdlizard> didnt work either
[09:07] <jdlizard> i have feisty on another partition and it runs fine
[09:08] <jdlizard> im thinking maybe something to do with the kernel change
[09:09] <jdlizard> so what do ya think
[09:15] <TAndy> Hi everybody. Suppose two installations, the old, used,  "A" and the fresh "B", on two partitions. Is there any way to get all what has been installed on A to automatically installed (via the package-manager) on B?
[09:16] <ardchoille> TAndy: I've never tried it but others have said this works:
[09:17] <ardchoille> TAndy: (get the package list) dpkg --get-selections > packagelist.txt
[09:18] <ardchoille> TAndy: (install them on the other box) sudo dpkg --set-selections << packagelist.txt && sudo apt-get install
[09:18] <ardchoille> TAndy: You should look those up in the man pages to make sure they are correct as I have never performed those commands, but it sounds like it would work.
[09:19] <TAndy> ardchoille: Wow! I'll mumble on it instantly. Thanks!
[09:20] <ardchoille> TAndy: Or you can make a disk image of box "A" and install that image on box "B" like I do. I use that method to make all 11 computers here identical.
[09:21] <ardchoille> TAndy: You can use System Rescue CD for that (it has PartImage on it)
[09:21] <ardchoille> !sysresccd
[09:21] <ubotu> SystemRescueCd is a Linux system on a bootable CD-ROM. It contains a number of admin tools including gparted and partimage. http://sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[09:21] <ardchoille> Making and restoring a disk image is much faster than installing packages via the package manager
[09:23] <TAndy> ardchoille:The prerequisite is to have, finally, a clean reinstallation without "dust", so the first solution seems exactly to be what I'm searching for.
[09:25] <ardchoille> Ah, ok. Yeah, doesn't bring over the "cruft"
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[09:27] <ardchoille> (ninja figlet)
[09:27]  * ardchoille giggles
[09:27] <ardchoille> Oops, wrong channel.. sorry about that
[09:27] <MaTiAz> lol
[09:30] <niles> hi
[09:30] <ardchoille> hi niles
[10:05] <cap601> I'm trying to empty my deleted items but I don't have permission to delete some of the files.  How can I give myself them?
[10:07] <TimS> cap601: You have to be sudo to do it on the comand line or open the folder as root
[10:07] <TimS> You in dolphin?
[10:07] <cap601> Yes
[10:08] <TimS> Click open as root on the right hand side
[10:08] <Ace2016> Anyone here tried the ratpoison desktop environment?
[10:08] <TimS> Never heard of it :P
[10:09] <Ace2016> neither have i, i just found a link to it, and i'm wondering if anyone uses it
[10:09] <Ace2016> i want a good screenshot of it
[10:09] <Ace2016> http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/
[10:09] <ardchoille> Ace2016: iirc, ratpoison is a window manager, not a full desktop
[10:09] <Ace2016> they have 2 screenshots, not that helpful
[10:09] <cap601> @TimS - I've done that but the folder isn't there
[10:09] <Ace2016> oh
[10:10] <Ace2016> is it just me or do you only need like xserver, kwin and konsole to run apps?
[10:10] <TimS> cap601: It should be, are you in the same folder, and if its not there, maybe you deleted it :P
[10:10] <Ace2016> kwin to window manage and konsole to lauch apps and look at the output
[10:11] <MilitantPotato> whats the default DVD size setting in k9copy?
[10:11] <cap601> It's not there
[10:11] <jpatrick> Ace2016: by the looks of them I'm sticking with KDE
[10:11] <cap601> Root probably has its own deleted items folder
[10:11] <TimS> Ace2016: Yes, sort of, many apps would have wider depenancies though
[10:11] <ardchoille> Ace2016: You don't even need xserver, some live cd's use kernel framebuffering and apps compiled against libsvga
[10:12] <cap601> I've just run sudo dolphin which did work
[10:12] <Ace2016> wow, thats slow isn't it? i just can't figure something like a web browser doing that
[10:12] <cap601> Thanks anyway
[10:12] <ardchoille> Ace2016: If you want a light but fast window manager that has menu capability, try out fluxbox
[10:12] <TimS> fluxbox is nice
[10:13] <TimS> As is XFCE, thats fairly light
[10:13] <ardchoille> Yeah
[10:13] <TimS> Or go for CDE :P retro :P
[10:13] <Ace2016> i'm proably going to try the one with the nicest screenshots first
[10:13] <TimS> lol
[10:13] <TimS> Kde :P
[10:14] <ardchoille> TimS: How would I get CDE in kubuntu? I thought that was proprietary (Solaris)
[10:14] <TimS> Hey WaltzingAlong
[10:14] <Ace2016> yea i run kde now
[10:14] <TimS> ardchoille: I think your right, but I have seen it done.
[10:14] <WaltzingAlong> TimS: greetings
[10:14] <Ace2016> ardchoille: is CDE open source?
[10:15] <TimS> It was most likely hacked, and I dont like it much anyway. Its not all solaris, is it? AIX uses CDE
[10:15] <ardchoille> Ace2016: I don't think so
[10:15] <ardchoille> TimS: Ah, good point
[10:16] <TimS> ardchoille: Solaris is moving/has moved to GNOME, by the way.
[10:16] <ardchoille> lol, says a lot about the usability of CDE
[10:16] <TimS> ardchoille: You can download linux binarys, but it comes at a price :P
[10:17] <TimS> Its old, it was good at the time, not any more
[10:18] <Ace2016> grrr, i hate gnome, why is it spreading, oh for the love of god someone stop it spreading, kde4 where are youuuu????
[10:19] <TimS> Plasmoids =o
[10:19] <TimS> They eat gnomes
[10:19] <Ace2016> i just hope the basic version is light and fast and featureless enough for gnome users to jump shipt to kde
[10:20] <ardchoille> You can bet the gnome devs are keeping tabs on kde4
[10:20] <TimS> It wont be, its looking fast, but light would be a strech, I dont see it as a problem, but its binarlies are a little bigger than KDE3
[10:21] <Ace2016> we just need something that loads to the desktop as fast as possible, thats what people think of as speed
[10:22] <TimS> Yeah
[10:22] <Ace2016> oh and easier themes and stuff are great
[10:22] <TimS> Well, plasmoids are widgets so themes should be easier and theres plenty of eye candy when you first start up
[10:22] <TimS> But Kubuntu wont go KDE4 for another 12 months
[10:23] <TimS> Anyone know if theres a non-webpage strigi
[10:24] <WaltzingAlong> TimS: there is the applet
[10:24] <Ace2016> oh well yay for debian sid
[10:24] <TimS> applet?
[10:24] <ardchoille> TimS: Thee is a strigi applet you can add to kicker
[10:25] <TimS> Yes, but it still returns results in a webpage
[10:25] <ardchoille> Ah, ok. I haven't used strigi, can't get it to work
[10:25] <TimS> Nah, its not as complete as beagle is
[10:26] <TimS> Right I gotta go out, Ill be back a bit later
[10:26] <ardchoille> I dont think a web ui was the best choice
[10:26] <TimS> I agree
[10:28] <JohnFlux> something keeps adding  <IP_ADDRESS>  to /etc/resolv.conf
[10:28] <JohnFlux> any ideas what?
[10:28] <JohnFlux> every 30 mins or so I have to edit the file, and remove that line :)
[10:29] <ardchoille> JohnFlux:  removing that line does nothing anyway without restarting the network
[10:29] <JohnFlux> ardchoille: uh
[10:29] <JohnFlux> ardchoille: it changes things immediately
[10:29] <ardchoille> That's new
[10:29] <Broken1> Hi - anyone had problems with the latest additions to update manager in feisty 7.04 not being able to get 3 updates - libsmbclient, samba-common and smbclient? I get error 404 file not found on them.
[10:29] <JohnFlux> ardchoille: do:   ping google.com    and while it is running, modify /etc/resolv.conf   - and it will stop pinging immediately
[10:30] <ardchoille> Broken1: That was a recent bug in samba, have you updated your sources and done sudo apt-get upgrade?
[10:30] <Broken1> ardchoille. My bad. I will do that now.
[10:31] <ardchoille> JohnFlux: Ok, well I haven't had to remove <IP_ADDRESS> from resolv.conf since Dapper, so..
[10:32] <Broken1> ardchoille: Many thanks updates just installed from terminal perfectly!
[10:32] <ardchoille> Broken1: yw :)
[10:33] <llutz> JohnFlux: have an eye on avahi-daemon, maybe it changes your dns-settings
[10:35] <JohnFlux> llutz: thanks
[10:40] <korex> русский
[10:40] <ardchoille> !ru | korex
[10:40] <ubotu> korex: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[10:48] <FabioBr> Hi, I want to install kubuntu on a machine with intel core 2 duo processor and 4gb ram. I need the version for 64 bits. The correct version is amd64 isnt it?
[10:49] <llutz> FabioBr: you don't "need" 64bit, only if you have special needs on your PC. for 99% of users 32bit is ok on 64bit-mchines too
[10:50] <backtick> hi all, what's the correct wireless encryption type in knetworkmanager for an ASCII key ? (that i set on the command line by using iwconfig eth1 key s:something) ?
[10:50] <backtick> WEP 40/104-bit ASCII doesn't seem to work
[10:51] <backtick> even if i limit my key size to 104 bits
[10:51] <FabioBr> llutz: I need... 32 bits can't map 4gb ram
[10:52] <waylandbill> anyone know if there is a guide for taking a kubuntu livecd and making a custom one that contains more software?
[10:53] <WaltzingAlong> JohnFlux: or you could run bind9 locally?
[10:53] <JohnFlux> WaltzingAlong: true.  killing avahi seems to be working so far
[10:53] <JohnFlux> FabioBr: the amd64 version works yes
[10:54] <JohnFlux> FabioBr: I used to have an amd64, and the replaced the motherboard +cpu for an intel one
[10:54] <bobishh> какие библиотеки надо в вайн чтобы КС пошла ?
[10:54] <FabioBr> JohnFlux: Thanks!!! Ill download! The name (amd64) is strange...
[10:54] <JohnFlux> FabioBr: and the amd64 bit ubuntu install still just works
[10:54] <bobishh>  sorry
[10:54] <JohnFlux> FabioBr: yeah
[10:54] <bobishh> wrong window =)
[10:54] <JohnFlux> bobishh: russian?
[10:54] <FabioBr> JohnFlux: Thanks... it was only to confirm!!!
[10:54] <JohnFlux> FabioBr: intel basically licensed the amd64 bit instruction set from amd
[10:55] <JohnFlux> doh
[10:55] <bobishh> yes, russian, sorry again )
[11:01] <stamen> hi
[11:01] <stamen> did anybody use open office with enabled compiz
[11:02] <stamen> because I have strange bug there
[11:02] <stamen> I think
[11:07] <_Angelus_> do you knowa a programe to see tv on the pc from the video/capture card?
[11:11] <ardchoille> _Angelus_: mythtv
[11:12] <hbl04028> hola, soy nuevo por aqui
[11:13] <hbl04028> alguien me podria ayudar con el GRUB?
[11:14] <ardchoille> !es | hbl04028
[11:14] <ubotu> hbl04028: Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[11:14] <hbl04028> ok, muchisimas gracias, lo hare
[11:15] <kdeuser^> hello
[11:18] <simontrask> when i do a configure on programs i get following error:configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[11:18] <simontrask> is there an easy howto on how to solve this one? im old slackware user recently installed kubuntu
[11:22] <waylandbill> !b-e | simontrask
[11:22] <ubotu> simontrask: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[11:22] <waylandbill> !info build-essentials | simontrask
[11:22] <simontrask> ubotu: ok thanks for the link :)
[11:22] <ubotu> simontrask: Package build-essentials does not exist in gutsy
[11:22] <waylandbill> oops.
[11:22] <waylandbill> !info build-essential
[11:22] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[11:23] <waylandbill> simontrask: ubotu is just a bot, but you are welcome. :-)
[11:24]  * gukk_devel is away: Zur Zeit nicht da.
[11:24] <simontrask> lol thanks to you too
[11:24] <waylandbill> I used to use slack a long, long time ago myself.
[11:25] <simontrask> waylandbill: build-essential was the package needed
[11:25] <waylandbill> yup
[11:34] <tuxwulf> No idea what I did to make my panel disappear... anyone ideas how to get it back...?
[11:38] <waylandbill> tuxwulf: Alt-F2, kicker (if you are referring to the kicker panel)
[11:50] <sarteck> Upgrading to Gutsy right now, seems stuck on file 442 of 873.  >.<
[11:51] <debian> I need to play wav, mp3 and itunes, how?
[11:52] <sarteck> debian, search for "Restricted Formats" at ubuntuforums.org.  It explains it in detail. :)\
[11:52] <debian> I only need one program?
[11:53] <emilsedgh> !mp3 | debian
[11:53] <ubotu> debian: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:55] <Barbarello> Hi, everybody. I have a problem with installation of kubuntu. After last error the grub problem was fixed by windows fixmbr application. And after that i cant install kubuntu else. (
[11:56] <RytmenPinnen> Hi, how do I uninstall an app that I've installed with a .run?
[11:56] <emilsedgh> !mbr
[11:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:56] <emilsedgh> !mbr | RytmenPinnen
[11:56] <ubotu> RytmenPinnen: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:57] <RytmenPinnen> :o what have grub to do with .run apps? :o and I havent installed windows
[11:57] <WaltzingAlong> RytmenPinnen: it may have provided an uninstaller ... otherwise just delete the files it placed wherever
[11:57] <tuxwulf> waylandbill: Eh m... Doesn't seem so... Seems my taskbar, with menu and buttons
[11:58] <emilsedgh> aah, i mean Barbarello: ^
[11:58] <Minnozz> Hi, does anybody know why radvd doesn't automagically start up?
[11:58] <RytmenPinnen> aha ok, but isn't the install spread over many many places?
[12:01] <waylandbill> tuxwulf: if it's the taskbar at the bottom of the screen, with the K menu and running applications and the clock, then that's kicker.
[12:01] <WaltzingAlong> RytmenPinnen: hard to know exactly
[12:02] <tuxwulf> waylandbill: Ah I see.....
[12:02] <waylandbill> !info kicker
[12:02] <ubotu> kicker: desktop panel for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.8-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 2030 kB, installed size 5876 kB
[12:02] <tuxwulf> waylandbill: Yes, I got mine in the left hand side, but yes that is the one I mean
[12:03] <tuxwulf> waylandbill: Thanks....! I got a step further....!
[12:05] <RytmenPinnen> righty then, I havent installed the app yet, but some guy once told me that installing apps with .run files trashes my system
[12:15] <sebbar> hi, I just did a clean install of gutsy on my laptop but media doesn't work (can't access cd drive nor mount usb hard drive) any idea why?
[12:17] <sebbar> nevermind it seems to work now (at least the external hard drive...)
[12:18] <sebbar> only problem now is the fan which is continuously spinning...
[12:28] <thomax_> hi
[12:29] <bachir> salut
[12:29] <bachir> j'ai un probleme bizarre
[12:29] <thomax_> how can I find out on which port sendmail is listening
[12:29] <bachir> a chaque fois que j'appuie sur le bureau averc le boutton gauche
[12:29] <bachir> la konsole s'affiche
[12:29] <thomax_> nestat -a | grep mail gives me this
[12:30] <thomax_> thomas@linuxbook:~$ netstat -a | grep mail
[12:30] <thomax_> tcp6       0      0 ::ffff:192.168.1.:43520 gmail-smtp-in.l.go:smtp TIME_WAIT
[12:30] <thomax_> unix  2      [ ACC ]     STREAM     LISTENING     341670   /var/run/sendmail/mta/smcontrol
[12:30] <thomax_> thomas@linuxbook:~$
[12:30] <jussio1> !fr | bachir
[12:30] <ubotu> bachir: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:30] <bachir> ok thnks
[12:31] <thomax_> how can I find out on which port sendmail is listening
[12:31] <thomax_> ?
[12:31] <bachir> but i can talk english too
[12:31] <bachir> ;)
[12:31] <bachir> i have a strange probleme
[12:32] <[ifr0g]> Why doest cp or mv have no progress bar ?? is there an alternative that does ?
[12:32] <bachir> every time i clic with the left button
[12:32] <bachir> the terminal appeare
[12:33] <thomax_> [ifr0g]: do mv -v /file /file
[12:33] <thomax_> gives verbose output
[12:33] <thomax_> so at least you can see whats been done
[12:35] <nick_> I'm trying to open a self installing .bin file, so I type ./filename.bin and it says permission denied...how do I get around this?
[12:36] <thomax_> nick_: chmod ugo+rwx ./filename.bin
[12:36] <[ifr0g]> thomax_, Yes i use that.. but i would like a progress bar.. for large files
[12:36] <_Angelus_>  i have a video recorder connected to my capture card , is there a way to see videos on my computer from the capture card?
[12:36] <nick_> thomax_: Just returned me to the prompt without any output
[12:37] <nick_> thomax_: and now it works...
[12:38] <nick_> thomax_: One other quick question, what directory do applications typically get installed in?
[12:48] <keno_> hello
[12:49] <keno_> I've been installing kubuntu over the last few days.  I've managed to work through wireless networking and sound issues using the forums
[12:49] <keno_> but I can't seem to fix my graphics problem
[12:49] <keno_> is anyone here able to help me?  Many thanks...
[12:50] <john-angel> what kinda of problems?
[12:51] <keno_> The resolution is very poor.  When I try to change the settings it doesn't allow me to go higher than 800x600.  I have a unichrome pro onboard video ca
[12:52] <john-angel> did you install ubuntu first or just k?
[12:53] <keno_> just kubuntu, with windows xp as a dual boot
[12:54] <TimS> !canonical
[12:54] <ubotu> Canonical Ltd. is committed to the development, distribution and promotion of open source software products, and to providing tools and support to the open source community. It is the driving force behind the Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu Operating Systems. Canonical's website is at http://www.canonical.com/
[12:54] <TimS> !canonicalrepositories
[12:55] <john-angel> go to kubuntu trouble shooting page on fire for you have to modify a file.
[12:55] <waylandbill> keno_:
[12:55] <waylandbill> keno_: which unichrome card?
[12:55] <keno_> its the unichrome pro
[12:56] <waylandbill> there's more than one of those... maybe pastebin the output of lspci.
[12:56] <waylandbill> !paste | keno_
[12:56] <ubotu> keno_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:57] <keno_> I should mention that I am a complete newbie.  The terminal and the commands are a bit alien
[12:58] <keno_> ok, here it is:
[12:58] <keno_> VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UniChrome Pro IGP (rev                        01)
[13:00] <lovre> hi all
[13:00] <lovre> i have an error when loading X on startup. It says the nvidia package is missing. How do i install it from console? apt-get what?
[13:01] <pag> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx   probably
[13:01] <lovre> sec, ill try
[13:01] <keno_> waylandbill: may I PM you the details?
[13:02] <waylandbill> keno_: there isn't much on the community docs about S3 cards. You may try google as a place to start.
[13:03] <keno_> I've tried that without much success.  what about the 915resolution app?  Would that help at all?
[13:03] <lovre> the problem occured when i installed nvidia-glx, and i suppose it owerwrited my configuration, so i uninstalled it later. ANd i couldnt boot then. Im restarting now to see
[13:04] <lovre> it stops loading on this line: "Running local boot scrips (/etc/rc.local)" and it just stays there. ANy help?
[13:06] <risto_> how to i can install docx support to open them in openofffice ?
[13:08] <waylandbill> keno_: what driver is X currently using? vesa? pastebin output of: grep -C 5 Section..Device /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:08] <keno_> waylandbill:  I've just found a page describing my exact problem.  Going to explore that and see where it takes me.  Thanks for your help!
[13:08] <waylandbill> keno_: oh ok. good luck
[13:10]  * gukk_devel-gone is back.
[13:10] <lovre> can some1 help with this please?
[13:11] <yotux> sorry missing your question
[13:11] <yotux> lovre: what is the problem?
[13:12] <lovre> failed to initialise nvidia kernel module..
[13:13] <lovre> yotux: when i try to boot i get "Running local boot scrips (/etc/rc.local)" and it wont boot
[13:13] <lovre> when i goto console and startx, i get "Failed to initialise nvidia kernel module"
[13:14] <lovre> yotux, any idea?
[13:14] <thomas_> hi
[13:14] <thomas_> is there a way to do version upgrade in commandline?
[13:14] <yotux> I don't have a fix to get the nvidia driver running for you
[13:14] <yotux> I would say edit xorg.conf and set the driver to nv
[13:15] <lovre> there are lots of stuff inside xorg.conf, what do i edit?
[13:15] <yotux> let me pop mine open I have edited xorg in the past
[13:15] <lovre> kk
[13:15] <TimS> Is it right that 8.04 wont have a xorg.conf?
[13:16] <wols> lovre: you don't edit it.
[13:16] <wols> you run dpkg-reconfiguer xserver-xorg
[13:16] <wols> thomas_: aptitude dist-upgrade for example
[13:18] <lovre> wols : what does that do?
[13:19] <thomas_> wols: can I manually unlock /var/lib/dpkg
[13:19] <thomas_> some other process is using it but I cant find which
[13:19] <wols> thomas_: ps aux |grep apt
[13:20] <lovre> wols: when i do "dpkg-reconfiguer xserver-xorg" i get no such command
[13:20] <thomas_> wols: that gives me aptitude, but when I do killall aptitude and do the grep again it's still there
[13:21] <wols> thomas_: paste the aptitude line
[13:21] <thomas_> wols
[13:21] <thomas_> got it
[13:22] <wols> lovre: dpkg-reconfigure
[13:22] <wols> and you need to be root
[13:23] <lovre> wols: restarting....
[13:30] <Ayabara_> I have no sound on my HP Pavilion laptop. Any gurus about?
[13:31] <lovre> wols: seems to be working now, thank you
[13:32] <Ayabara_> anyone. I could really really use some help :-)
[13:32] <gaero> hy there
[13:33] <illuminatus23> hmm...
[13:33] <gaero> i have a matrox G550 graphic card but the driver mga doesn't work somebody had the same trouble and solved it ?
[13:33] <illuminatus23> tpye "alsamixer" on a console
[13:34] <Ayabara_> illuminatus23: done
[13:35] <Ayabara_> It says I have HDA Intel, Realtek ID 268, and shows master and pcm levels that are the same as the ones in the volume control applet
[13:36] <illuminatus23> ok, do a "sudo apt-get install sox"
[13:37] <illuminatus23> and the ngo to a dir with some music or whatever in it and type "play somewhat.mp3"
[13:42] <fernando_> I need to know if my ati drivers are the version 8.42.3.. how can I get to know that???
[13:44] <illuminatus23> try " dpkg -l ati* "
[13:45] <illuminatus23> or if you mean the proprietary one called "fglrx" trx "dpkg -l fglrx*"
[13:51] <grul> hattar
[13:57] <hdevalence> if the kde4b4 is delayed due to archive issues, do we have any idea when these issues will be resolved?
[14:02] <sebastian^> hello folks :)
[14:03] <walter> hi
[14:03] <walter> does anybody know if ipod classic works on kubuntu 7.10?
[14:05] <walter> nobody?
[14:05] <walter> please tell me!
[14:05] <pag> walter, I don't know which one of them is 'classic' but most of them should work afaik
[14:06] <walter> ipod classic is the 6th generation ipod
[14:06] <sebastian^> yes why not :)
[14:06] <krughanh> does any know if there is a freeware php debugger with single step that i can get for kubuntu ?
[14:06] <krughanh> please
[14:07] <walter> pag, sebastian^ thank you for answering me
[14:08] <krughanh> are there any users here using a debugger with single step ?
[14:08] <Ayabara> I`m having sound problems on a HP Pavilion dv9525. No sound when I use the live cd, and no sound on my installed ubuntu.
[14:09] <krughanh> i guess not then
[14:09] <walter> bye bye
[14:11] <Bondi007> the internet is really slow in j#kubuntu but not in windows
[14:12] <Bondi007> any ideas why this is appening
[14:12] <Bondi007> can anybody help me
[14:12] <Bondi007> my internet is slow on kubuntu but not in windows
[14:13] <Schuenemann> how can I know if a video capture card would work in kubuntu?
[14:13] <Bondi007> find out on the kubuntu wiki, shoulkd tell u
[14:14] <milfhunter> hello all
[14:14] <sebastian^> hi milfhunter
[14:15] <milfhunter> has anyone installed tcsh in kubuntu?
[14:15] <milfhunter> apt-get returns no results
[14:15] <kraut> moin
[14:15] <milfhunter> or even csh
[14:16] <milfhunter> any ideas?
[14:17] <zblach> hey. i killed smb.conf. can someone pastebin their default one?
[14:20] <NetersLandreau> what is the repository for beryl? i'm getting 404 errors from  http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org..
[14:20] <TimS> zblach: Whats the path to it?
[14:20] <zblach> /etc/samba/smb.conf
[14:20] <TimS> NetersLandreau: Why dont you go for Compiz Fusion
[14:21] <NetersLandreau> TimS: what are the benefits of that over beryl?
[14:21] <TimS> zblach:
[14:21] <TimS> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/45015/
[14:22] <fernando_> how can see all my desktop making a sort of wall, with reflection over the surface using compiz
[14:22] <TimS> NetersLandreau: Alot better management, less bugs, its up to date and there are updates for it. Beryl is no longer being developed for, also, better support. #compiz-fusion answered all my questions
[14:23] <TimS> fernando_: Its a cplugin called desktopwall
[14:23] <NetersLandreau> good answer TimS.. what is the source to download it from?
[14:23] <TimS> It should be a default plugin if not add the unsupported repositores
[14:23] <fernando_> TimS: Do i need to download that plugin?? because isn't my options
[14:24] <TimS> Look in the reppos for the extra plugins package and unsuported extras
[14:24] <fernando_> TimS: ok.. just a moment
[14:25] <TimS> NetersLandreau: follow http://shame.tuxfamily.org/repo/?cat=11
[14:25] <Ayabara> I'm having sound problems on a HP Pavilion laptop. Output from "sound info collector" -> http://pastebin.ca/780081
[14:26] <NetersLandreau> thx TimS
[14:26] <TimS> NetersLandreau: Are you on feisty or gutsy?
[14:26] <fernando_> Tims: ok..I have, but I just can move between desktop ones each time..I can see all of them on a single wall with the reflection
[14:26] <TimS> Oh, do you mean Ctrl alt down?
[14:27] <fernando_> Ctrl alt down doesnt work..
[14:27] <fernando_> at least doesn't anything
[14:27] <fernando_> I have enable desktop wall
[14:27] <TimS> Look in the compix fusion cube settings for unfold cube, I think its what you mean
[14:27] <TimS> Compiz*
[14:28] <TimS> Theres a few different cube ones, but one has a unfold cube, It might be what you mean
[14:28] <neville> Oh
[14:28] <neville> I had that cube problem
[14:28] <neville> What I did was
[14:29] <neville> Enable 'Rotate Cube'
[14:29] <neville> And set its button bindings to
Button1
[14:29] <neville> Then back, and it worked
[14:31] <fernando_> neville: but I down want rotate a cube.. I want to see all my desktop in a wall with reflection..
[14:32] <TimS> Unfold cube, I am pretty sure, is what you mean
[14:34] <fernando_> TimS: I have activate the unfold, but doesn't do anything..
[14:34] <fernando_> the default key is ctrl+alt+down
[14:34] <TimS> Change it to something else, see if that works
[14:35] <TimS> bbl
[14:35] <sneg_> hello people
[14:35] <vandal2> hey
[14:35] <sneg_> i ve got vista + kubuntu dual boot. i want to get rid of vista and get winxp installed, grub will bugger up, wont it?
[14:35] <vandal2> anyone know how to do a space in a for loop using bash?
[14:35] <sneg_> basically what steps should i take to restore my dual boot
[14:36] <sneg_> after winxp installation
[14:37] <vandal2> when i run the script i want to have spaces shown. at the moment i have to use a hyphen... can you help?
[14:38] <nixternal> sneg_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[14:38] <floyd> Hello Kubuntu community, first try at IRC here
[14:39] <nixternal> vandal2: space == '\ ' use the backslash before doing the space
[14:39] <fulat2k> hi folks, i've got a dvdram installed in my pc.  howver, k3b doesn't recognize it.  any idea where i should start troubleshooting?
[14:39] <vandal2> cheers nixternal :)
[14:40]  * nixternal heads to LUG meeting
[14:40] <floyd> Newbie question here: I get some sort of error message right after GRUB during boot. Where can I see that message? It displays for less than a second and it's six or seven lines of text...
[14:40] <nixternal> have a great day everyone!
[14:40] <floyd> Thanks you too!
[14:40] <nixternal> floyd: warning messages
[14:40] <nixternal> PCI related?
[14:41] <floyd> Yes!!
[14:41] <nixternal> ignore them, they are harmless
[14:41] <floyd> it says somehing about PCI
[14:41] <nixternal> I get them on my laptop
[14:41] <floyd> Oh, Thanks!
[14:41] <neville> Can somebody tell me how to add the 'mem=' parameter to my boot thing?
[14:41] <nixternal> I only get them on my laptop as a matter of fact
[14:41] <neville> What I need to do it set it to 1024Mb from 2048Mb
[14:41] <nixternal> anywho, off I go for real this time :)
[14:42] <floyd> I get them on my desktop, all works just fine, I was concerned about it, I'm glad to know that they are harmless
[14:44] <sneg_> nixternal: thank you very much
[14:44] <floyd> Well, off I go then, THANKS nixternal!!
[14:44] <sneg_> *off to winxp install*
[14:57] <Smonk> I messed up, I need some help please
[14:57] <pag> Smonk, be more specific, please.
[14:59] <Smonk> I decided to reboot my system (it had been a while) and it gets stuck on a black screen with a blinking cursor. When I go to safe mode, and I try to startx, it fails saying that (EE) Nvidia(0): Failed to read the NVIDIA Kernel modual
[15:00] <Smonk> I don't remember changing anything with my NVIDIA drivers..
[15:00] <Smonk> Oh yeah, sorry, I'm using 7.10
[15:00] <Smonk> Kubuntu
[15:01] <pag> Smonk, how did you install those drivers?
[15:01] <neville> Try installing the driver using Envy?
[15:02] <Smonk> Yes
[15:03] <Smonk> Envy, that's the program
[15:03] <pag> ooh... thet explains the problem...
[15:03] <Smonk> ahh crap
[15:03] <Smonk> lol, something told me that Envy couldn't be that easy
[15:03] <Minataku> !envy
[15:03] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[15:04] <Minataku> Hm. It used to have a clever little message.
[15:04] <Minataku> They keep changing things in the bot to make it less useful and more boring
[15:04] <neville> I just install the driver by sh /home/name/Desktop/NVIDIA*.run
[15:04] <neville> Then
[15:05] <neville> sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals --composite
[15:05] <neville> Works fine from that point on
[15:05] <pag> neville, have you updated kernel lately? :P
[15:06] <Smonk> ok, so what you're saying is, Reboot in safe mode.. Then use command sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals --composite    ??
[15:06] <neville> Yes, I just learnt to do it that way, and haven't bothered changing
[15:06] <neville> If it can't find the kernel module, wouldn't you need to reinstall the driver first to clear that up?
[15:07] <neville> If you want GUI back, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and setting video driver to vesa
[15:08] <neville> Then
[15:08] <neville>  /etc/init.d/kdm start
[15:08] <juacom04> hi
[15:08] <juacom04> can somebody pese help me
[15:08] <neville> Unless you already knew that, and I just sound like the noob I am =)
[15:09] <juacom04> i think someon is usnig my registred nick :S
[15:09] <neville> Find out where they live
[15:09] <Smonk> lol, no, it's ok
[15:10] <neville> And then
[15:10] <neville> Mail them the head of Tux
[15:11] <Smonk> ok, I'll try that neville
[15:11] <Smonk> thanks
[15:11] <Dragnslcr> juacom04- kill them then
[15:14] <fernando_> #compiz
[15:14] <fernando_> !compiz
[15:14] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[15:27] <sMonk> Hey, neville -- just wanted to say thanks.. it seems to be working
[15:30] <sMonk> so now I guess the correct way to install my Nvidia drivers is to use "restricted drivers" and go from there?
[15:31] <sMonk> !Envy
[15:31] <ubotu> envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[15:31] <neville> What card do you use?
[15:32] <debian> WTF is envy? I want it!
[15:32] <sMonk> Geforce 6600 GT
[15:32] <neville> Go to the nVidia site, and get the driver that matches your card
[15:32] <neville> !!
[15:32] <neville> Same card!!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:32] <neville> <3
[15:32] <sMonk> ok
[15:32] <sMonk> thanks
[15:32] <sMonk> again
[15:32] <neville> The latest driver will be fine
[15:32] <pag> sMonk, "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[15:32] <neville> Then when it's downloaded
[15:33] <neville> Switch to shell (control + alt + F1)
[15:33] <neville> Login as root
[15:33] <neville> then
[15:33] <neville>  /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[15:33] <neville> Switch back to same shell, then
[15:33] <neville> sh /path/to/driver/NVIDIA*.run
[15:33] <pag> !enter | neville
[15:33] <ubotu> neville: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[15:33] <neville> Sorry, it's bad habit
[15:34] <patricio> what can I use, to backup/synchronise my agenda on my mobile phone (Ericsson K800i) on kde(kubuntu gutsy gibbon)
[15:34] <patricio> ?
[15:34] <neville> Once that is done sMonk, do
[15:34] <sMonk> ok, should I download off the site, or should I use the "sudo apt-get" line
[15:34] <neville> sudo --add-argb-glx-visuals --composite
[15:35] <neville> Get it direct from their site
[15:35] <sMonk> ok
[15:35] <pag> sMonk, both work - latter works after kernel updates too
[15:35] <neville> Then /etc/init.d/kdm start
[15:35] <neville> Log in as yourself
[15:35] <neville> Open konsole
[15:35] <neville> sudo nvidia-settings
[15:36] <neville> Then select X Server Display Configuration, and set your resolution, refresh rate, etc
[15:36] <neville> Then Apply
[15:36] <sMonk> the only thing I know, is then I was installing 7.10, I noticed that I didn't get a change to enter in a "root" password.. just my main login.. I've tried logging in as root before and using my regular password it wont log me in
[15:36] <neville> And Save to X config, then try rebooting and see if the driver sticks
[15:36] <neville> Oh
[15:36] <neville> Open Konsole
[15:36] <neville> And type
[15:36] <pag> neville, do *not* use sudo with graphical apps - that's why there's kdesudo
[15:36] <neville> sudo passwd , then set the root password
[15:37] <neville> You do not control my warped way of doing things, besides, it gets the job done
[15:37] <neville> =)
[15:39] <sMonk> when you say, "switch back to the same shell" what do you mean?
[15:39] <pag> neville, sure... it's just the fact, taht using sudo with graphical apps might result in a pretty broken system in a long run... same with using drivers from outside the repositories
[15:40] <neville> Usually closing KDM that way results in it sitting at a black screen with a flashing cursor, so using control + alt + F1 goes back to the shell you were in before you closed KDM
[15:40] <sMonk> got ya
[15:40] <sMonk> so should I be using kdesudo??
[15:41] <patricio> what is the best tool to use, to backup/synchronise my agenda from my mobile phone (Ericsson K800i) on kde(kubuntu gutsy gibbon)?
[15:41] <neville> Not on the shell when you're logged in as root
[15:41] <neville> But try it when the driver is installed, and sudo nvidia-xconfig -add-argb-glx-visuals --composite is done
[15:41] <pag> sMonk, IMHO you should use drivers from the repos... it's easier, and will save you from the problems after the next kernel upgrade
[15:41] <seezer> patricio: tried kmobiletools?
[15:42] <patricio> seezer: no, thanks
[15:42] <neville> What problems, just reinstall the driver for the new kernel the same way, and off you go =/
[15:42] <seezer> patricio: i'd suggest using the 0.5* release (via kmobiletools.kde.org)
[15:42] <sMonk> oh boy, lol -- two diffrent methods
[15:43] <pag> neville, umm.. yeah.. isn't it easier when it's done automatically for you?
[15:43] <patricio> seezer, thanks a lot
[15:43] <seezer> patricio: still beta but way better than the release included in the kubuntu repositories
[15:43] <neville> Not for me
[15:43] <neville> I'm just not that sort of person
[15:44] <patricio> seezer, yes, it's <IP_ADDRESS> ... the same with imagemagick.. I wonder, why the repo versions are still older than releases from more than 3/4 year ago *g
[15:45] <seezer> patricio: in case of kmobiletools it's just based on the fact that there is no official release since that version
[15:45] <patricio> ah, ok
[15:46] <BluesKaj> neville, you make it sound so easy , my experience taght me that when kernel update was installed , even the proprietary ATI driver no longer provided 3D or DRI on my setup ...so open source , if you can find one that works is prolly even more vulnerable. :(
[15:46] <patricio> is 1.7MB/s a normal speed for ethernet+usb2.0?
[15:46] <patricio> it seems to me a bit slow
[15:47] <seezer> ethernet via usb? *uargh* ;)
[15:48] <neville> Hey, I'm very very new to using this OS (Only started last year), and the way I learnt how to do things was from my girlfriend, who likes doing it this way too
[15:48] <neville> It essentially just rubbed off onto me
[15:49] <BluesKaj> aha neville , blame the GF :)
[15:49] <neville> I'm not
[15:49] <BluesKaj> just kidding
[15:49] <neville> Well, I am, but still, it's a great way!
[15:51] <patricio> seezer, no, I meant the connection: my laptop via ethernet cable to another server that has an attached usb harddrive :)
[15:51] <neville> It's okay, I'll let her know how 'flawed' her way is tomorrow =P
[15:53] <Harahu> See you guys later I am installing Kubuntu. Yay!!
[15:53] <nick_> I have a question about tsclient,  I'm trying to connect to my parents windows box back home and I've had them go through and make sure to allow remote connections etc, but here's my problem, I have their ip address, but they are behind a router, what do I put in the box to log in?
[15:55] <BluesKaj> !remote
[15:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:56] <seezer> patricio: aah ;)
[15:56] <nick_> I know that since we are not using a vpn I'll need the actual ip address, but how do I direct to the router and then to the specific computer?
[15:57] <seezer> patricio: i guess the bottleneck is still usb. but try to save to a local (sata/ide/scsi) harddrive at the remote target.
[15:57] <patricio> there is an ide harddrive there
[15:59] <patricio> WIE GEIL! seezer, kmobiletools is friggin awesome :D
[16:00] <seezer> patricio: finds auch nich schlecht ;)
[16:00] <patricio> :) :)
[16:00] <patricio> strange thing though: all my contacts are listed twice *g
[16:00] <patricio> ah, sim and mobile
[16:01] <seezer> there definately _is_ still some work to do..
[16:01] <patricio> is it possible to change their location over hree?
[16:01] <patricio> awesome, all my sms :) :)
[16:02] <seezer> sorry have no installation here. only on my laptop. and since i'm not actually chatting but learning for a test tomorrow.. *gna*
[16:06] <patricio> seezer: wait
[16:06] <patricio> seezer: the most important tool I haven't found yet: agenda options
[16:07] <patricio> doesn't kmobiletools have that yet?
[16:08] <newbee> hello
[16:08] <neville> hello
[16:08] <newbee> hs anyone been able to install ubuntu on a power pc
[16:09] <newbee> we are looking to change from mac os x 10.2
[16:09] <seezer> patricio: hmm. i thought so..
[16:09] <newbee> I understand the ubuntu will install but the wireless will not work
[16:09] <patricio> seezer: hm, I can't find that
[16:10] <neville> Well, the wireless not working isn't usually a given
[16:10] <seezer> patricio: hm. perhaps someone in #kmobiletools could tell you more?
[16:10] <neville> Sometimes it works without a hitch from the word go, other times it needs a bit of a push
[16:10] <patricio> good idea! thx
[16:10] <BluesKaj> newbee, http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/kubuntu/ports/releases/7.10/release/