[19:21] <Cypher2> im on the same session ive used to pull and fix
[19:21] <meta-coder> Pici: I want a list of all possible gcc -l arguments like -lm for math.h, etc I couldn't find it it man pages..
[19:21] <Pici> prakas: are you in the same path as test.desktop
[19:22] <prakas> Pici: yes on the same directory
[19:22] <prakas> Pici: i am running it as ./scriptname
[19:22] <Pici> meta-coder: I don't know what they are.  contrary to popular belief, I don't know everything.
[19:22] <trism> Cypher2: you don't need to login to pull to commit to your local repo, just to push, so that doesn't necessarily mean anything
[19:22] <Pici> prakas: and you see the output from the ls -l ?
[19:22] <agoole22> which packages handle the mouse functions ?
[19:22] <agoole22> I tried using the older kernel
[19:22] <agoole22> but to no avail
[19:22] <lucidguy> Anyone see anything wrong with this ip/interfaces config? Ubuntu 10.04 system.  Everytime I bring up eth1 system is unable to reach the net. http://paste.ubuntu.com/683788/
[19:22] <Cypher2> i know.. meaning the login was done already, did it again to make sure.. still error
[19:22] <prakas> Pici: yes it shows the ls -l :P anything that is prefixed sudo doesnt ask me the password
[19:23] <prakas> and runs it in non-root
[19:23] <meta-coder> HEY all, I want a list of all possible gcc -l arguments like -lm for math.h, etc I couldn't find it it man pages..
[19:23] <prakas> Pici: running the script with sudo works but it is not ideal
[19:23] <Pici> prakas: So it gives you an error that it can't copy the file?
[19:24] <Guile> Hi meta-coder!
[19:24] <prakas> Pici: yes and the file doesnt get copied
[19:24] <meta-coder> What is the difference between 'sudo' and 'gksu' ?
[19:24] <tvaldes> I've just upgraded a comp from an old version of ubuntu (8.x?) to 10.04. I used to be able to gksudo nautilus and type in burn:/// to run CD/DVD creator as root. It doesn't seem to work anymore.. I've tried several variations. Anyone able to help me out?
[19:25] <agoole22> I'm having troublse with my mouse losing functionality...anyone have a clue /
[19:25] <agoole22> ?
[19:25] <prakas> Pici: is it a bug of 11.04?
[19:25] <urlin2u> agoole22, can you explain that in more depth?
[19:25] <prakas> or they intentionally disabled it
[19:26] <meta-coder> What's new in Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot)?
[19:26] <Cypher2> any idea? i'm no exspert but i do know my way around and have yet to understand what's going on with this error
[19:26] <agoole22> urlin2u: I can move the mouse, but I can't click on anything, or move windows
[19:26] <agoole22> urlin2u: but sometimes it'll let me click the power off button
[19:26] <Pici> prakas: Can you try running sudo -K   and then running your script again?
[19:26] <agoole22> urlin2u: I can also click links
[19:27] <auronandace> !gksudo | meta-coder
[19:27] <prakas> Pici: i didnt enter the root password before
[19:28] <trism> Cypher2: no idea, I would ask in #launchpad as Pici suggested (I would also try pushing something to ~username/+junk/branchname to see if you can push anywhere)
[19:28] <prakas> Pici: just rebooted it should ask me the password
[19:28] <urlin2u> agoole22, are you plugged into a hub or the computer, or wireless?
[19:28] <Pici> prakas: did you run sudo -K yet?
[19:28] <agoole22> urlin2u: this is the pad, on the laptop
[19:29] <prakas> Pici: let me start the netbook hold on
[19:29] <urlin2u> agoole22, so it's not a mouse but the touchpad?
[19:29] <Cypher2> the junk push fails also.. i've tried.. nada... i.m actually on the launchpad question page and the only thing it suggests is switching from username to lp name... which in my case is not registered for some weird reason... also simple ssh does not connect with same error
[19:29] <Rockj> Q: grub2  in ubuntu - how are you actually supposed to be able to set the preferred kernel to boot? is there an "easy" way to actually do this ?
[19:30] <agoole22> urlin2u: yeah, sorry, the touchpad on the laptop, and its buttons
[19:30] <urlin2u> agoole22, not sure I don't use the touchpad.
[19:30] <Pici> Cypher2: I don't see that you've asked your question in #launchpad yet though.
[19:30] <agoole22> urlin2u: could it be the window manager ?
[19:30] <Guile>  meta-coder: Regarding your questiong, -lm is not just a gcc option... the -l parameter is for including libraries, and libm is the common name of math library.
[19:30] <tasos99> how to fsck a mounted filesystem?
[19:31] <urlin2u> Rockj, what are you trying to get as the default and what are all of the OS's involved.
[19:31] <Cypher2> meaning im on https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bzr/+question/80792
[19:31] <Rockj> urlin2u: ubuntu 11.04 , trying to make the vserver kernel the default one to boot up
[19:31] <meta-coder> Guile: SImilarly I want to know all the lib available to be included as is -lm.
[19:32] <Guile> meta-coder: So, there is no list for which -lx you can use. The filename to the library which is indicated after -l can be any name, also you can use your own created library.
[19:32] <Pici> Cypher2: Yes, but you're trying to push to launchpad, so it is probably best to ask them about any known issues or tips.
[19:33] <Guile> meta-coder: when you yous -lm gcc looks for libm.a which is commonly at /usr/lib/libm.a
[19:33] <Cypher2> k.. i will
[19:33] <Guile> meta-coder: So you can just use ls -1 /usr/lib/*.a for knowing which values you can use. :) Gotcha?
[19:34] <meta-coder> Guile: What is libz for? What header files does it support? And does libm has only math.h and not any other header file?
[19:34] <tasos99> how to force fsck a mounted filesystem?
[19:34] <urlin2u> Rockj, this might help read carefully. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1664134
[19:34] <prakas> Pici: it doesn't work
[19:34] <prakas> Pici: what version of ubuntu are you using. does sudo inside shell script ask you the password when running it non root
[19:35] <prakas> Pici: it worked in 10.04 and 10.10 and 7.04 dont know why its not working in 11.04
[19:35] <prakas> Pici: no error messages in dmesg either
[19:35] <Guile> meta-coder: libm has only a header file, commonly named: <libm/math.h>
[19:36] <tvaldes> Can someone help me run CD/DVD creator as root in 10.04? "gksudo nautilus burn:///" isn't working, and it did in older versions... Thanks!
[19:36] <meta-coder> Guile: Thanks dude.. :)
[19:36] <BarkingFish> tasos - forcing an fsck on a mounted FS is a very bad idea, fsck can severely damage a mounted filesystem.  Whatever you do, it's at your own risk
[19:37] <Guile> meta-coder: you are welcome.
[19:37] <_s0rta-gnu> I have a fresh Ubuntu 10.04.03 install, and I can not change the default open application for any damn mime type. It's sooooo annoying. What is so hard about telling ubuntu to open an mp3 with audacious instead of totem ??? ROAR! No other ubuntu does this.
[19:38] <kyle__> tasos99: If you used LVM, and have free space to make a snapshot partition, lookup making an LVM snapshot.  You can safely run fsck on the snapshot, to see if the fsck is neccesary.
[19:39] <urlin2u> _s0rta-gnu, mp3 right click properties open with
[19:39] <tasos99> kyle__: the filesystem is severely damaged, and shows up as mounted, when its not
[19:39] <_s0rta-gnu> yeah. that doesn't do anything urlin2u
[19:39] <tasos99> im booting from a live CD.
[19:39] <_s0rta-gnu> it will do it one time, but does not save the change like it should
[19:40] <kyle__> tasos99: Ahhh.  Well, then I'd fsck, and pray.  If it's that dammnaged, it's probably the only way you're going to get your data back.  (And you DID check to make sure the live cd didn't auto-moun it or somefin?)
[19:40] <Symantic> hello everyone.
[19:40] <tasos99> kyle__: it did NOT automount it
[19:40] <urlin2u> _s0rta-gnu, really if you choose audacious it does not work?
[19:40] <tasos99> i can either mount it or unmount it
[19:40] <Symantic> is there any way to fix the mouse lag when you press a key?
[19:40] <orazio> hi, ubuntu freeze with SSD drive
[19:40] <kyle__> tasos99: :) Good.  Just had to check
[19:40] <Symantic> or is it because hardware interupt causes it.
[19:40] <tasos99> but fsck doesnt want to start, cause its 'mounted'!
[19:40] <kyle__> tasos99: Check /etc/mtab
[19:41] <tasos99> umount /dev/sda6 sais that /etc/mtab says that its not mounted
[19:41] <Pici> prakas: This works as expected on my 11.04 server: http://paste.ubuntu.com/683797/
[19:41] <Symantic> does everyones mouse lag when they press a key?
[19:41] <_s0rta-gnu> yeah. seriously. I even unchecked "always open with" and rechecked it. Does nothing. Changed it in ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list, nothing.
[19:41] <meta-coder> How can I implement SteadySate/ Deep Freeze on Ubuntu natty ??
[19:41] <kyle__> Symantic: Mine doesn't when you press a key.
[19:42] <tasos99> Symantic: This is a protection for laptop, so you dont click anything while typing
[19:42] <Symantic> bah
[19:42] <kyle__> tasos99: Sadly that doesn't work on mine, touchpad is always active.
[19:42] <tasos99> Symantic: you can disable it with System->Preferences->Mouse Preferences->TouchPad->1st option
[19:42] <Symantic> thank you
[19:43] <_s0rta-gnu> @daavis -- you can always force a dismount with umount anyway to be safe.
[19:44] <Symantic> better than perfect tasos99
[19:44] <andre_> trying to do sudo ./bin/passenger-install-nginx-module
[19:44] <andre_> getting an error, do i have to install everything as root?
[19:44] <andre_> error is /usr/bin/env: ruby: No such file or directory
[19:47] <user> Anyone their?
[19:47] <dfcnvt> Ahola, I'm having a problem with firefox browser, when I press (F6) for url to type in, it doesn't jump to it. I think it's the OS that sort of prevent from this happing.
[19:47] <dfcnvt> happening*
[19:47] <usr13> _s0rta-gnu: Is your system fully updated?
[19:48] <dfcnvt> Any idea how to jump in for URL to type in?
[19:48] <user> Having this problem: Failed to fetch http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libc/libcdio/libiso9660-7_0.81-4_i386.deb  404  Not Found
[19:48] <dfcnvt> (I don't want a mouse to click in the url)
[19:49] <dfcnvt> Anybody? I hope not all of you use the mouse to get to the url bar for fill in site... :\
[19:49] <xangua> user use main repisitories
[19:50] <user> I did a clean installation and added some PPA and did a download then this happend Failed to fetch http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libc/libcdio/libiso9660-7_0.81-4_i386.deb  404  Not Found
[19:50] <dfcnvt> Ah, nevermind (found problem via google) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1788867
[19:50] <Guest68384> Q) How do i make a bootable iso from folder ? genisoimage -o /tmp/custom.iso -R /tmp/custom-iso/
[19:50] <user> Now I can't  sudo apt-get install ANYTHING
[19:50] <Guest68384> the base image is supergrub2disk..
[19:51] <BluesKaj> user, try a different repos server
[19:51] <monstro> hi everyone,
[19:51] <monstro> I have 2GB RAM DDR3 and the command "free -mt" showed just free: "17" I'm using the 11.04. Why just 17MB free? strange!
[19:52] <user> Ok let me try that
[19:52] <oCean> user: did you run sudo apt-get update
[19:52] <oCean> user: because the package you mention is actuall a build1:  libiso9660-7_0.81-4build1_i386.deb
[19:52] <user> I can install anything from the software centre
[19:52] <monstro> What's the best way to measure?
[19:52] <user> Does this make any sence?
[19:52] <oCean> user: sudo apt-get update does not install, it updates the repo metadata
[19:52] <usr13> user: sudo apt-get update
[19:53] <rumpe1> andre_, so install ruby
[19:53] <dfcnvt> user, did you type that command line, "apt-get update" in your terminal? What was the result?
[19:53] <user> I allready did an update and upgrade...still nothing
[19:53] <Guest66053> Q: try to link airport express with ubuntu 11.04. Using pulseaudio -k after startup to find the AE. But ubuntu find it 2 times? And i can't select them, sound preferences hanges. Anybody a idea?? Thanks
[19:53] <dfcnvt> user, switch to su then try "apt-get update"
[19:53] <usr13> user:  http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libc/libcdio/libiso9660-7_0.81-4_i386.deb does not exist on the server
[19:54] <monstro> anyone can I help me?
[19:54] <oCean> user: run apt-cache policy libiso9660-7
[19:54] <user> It updates with no problem
[19:54] <usr13> user: See:  http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libc/libcdio/
[19:54] <oCean> usr13: no, as I said it's a newer version
[19:54] <usr13> o
[19:54] <oCean> user: run the apt-cache policy command
[19:54] <user> NO Run command
[19:54] <oCean> user: apt-cache policy libiso9660-7
[19:55] <dfcnvt> user, yea, you'll need to type such "apt-cache search NAME_HERE"
[19:55] <oCean> user: then see what is Candidate
[19:55] <user> libiso9660-7:
[19:55] <user>   Installed: (none)
[19:55] <user>   Candidate: 0.81-4
[19:55] <user>   Version table:
[19:55] <user>      0.81-4 0
[19:55] <FloodBot1> user: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:55] <dfcnvt> user, if you find something you'd like to install, then do so, "apt-get install NAME_HERE" from the list of apt-cache...
[19:55] <oCean> user: and that^ is weird, since it should read Candidate: 0.81-4build1
[19:56] <oCean> dfcnvt: that is not his problem
[19:56] <usr13> user: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[19:56] <Guest68384> Q) Whats the missing geniso command from this :- http://pastie.org/private/qa2exq1zugvnq3sumxo8oa
[19:56] <oCean> user: please paste the output for sudo apt-get update in a pastebin
[19:57] <dfcnvt> oCean, thx for pointing out, i shall stop 'helping'.
[19:57] <user> sudo apt-get install pastebinit (Is Running)
[19:57] <user> Ok finished
[19:57] <oCean> dfcnvt: helping is always good :) he's already one step further..
[19:57] <usr13> user: sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[19:57] <Cypher2> i posted the qion.. hope i get an answer soon :(
[19:57] <oCean> user: go to http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste the output please
[19:58] <usr13> user: Paste resulting URL here.
[19:58] <Pici> Cypher2: You still haven't asked in #launchpad.  /joiin #launchpad    to get there, and then ask.
[19:59] <Pici> Cypher2: you'd need to spell join properly, but that would work.
[19:59] <user> http://pastebin.com/RDFtZDw4 It tells me spam detected...weird
[20:00] <monstro> I have 2GB RAM DDR3 and the command "free -mt" showed just free: "17" I'm using the 11.04. Why just 17MB free? strange!
[20:00] <monstro> What's the best way to measure?
[20:00] <wafflesburger> how can i figure out my build stirng
[20:00] <brontosaurusrex> monstro: ls -l ?
[20:00] <brontosaurusrex> no, df -h i mean
[20:01] <Pici> brontosaurusrex: that has nothing to do with RAM
[20:01] <LearnUbuntu> What is the new path for /etc/gdm/custom in 11.04?
[20:01] <oCean> user: weird, you 'hit' the universe repo fine. The output of apt-cache policy is still the same as before?
[20:01] <brontosaurusrex> Pici: ups
[20:01] <monstro> I have just 17MB of RAM
[20:01] <Pici> monstro: You should take a look at http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ or  http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html to understand how Linux manages memory.
[20:01] <monstro> 17MB ram free
[20:01] <genii-around> wafflesburger: What kernel and architecture you are on?
[20:01] <urlin2u> user, spam?
[20:01] <user> So what should I do now?
[20:01] <Pici> monstro: You should be looking at the '-/+ buffers/cache' line
[20:02] <oCean> user: The output of apt-cache policy is still the same as before?
[20:02] <user> I'm out of options
[20:02] <urlin2u> user, where?
[20:02] <wafflesburger> 2.6.38-8-generic
[20:02] <orazio> My fresh installed ubuntu crashes (freeze) soon after login. After I push some keys on the keyboard and before login a lot of "udevd worker did not accept message". Errors are related????
[20:02] <wafflesburger> and amd64
[20:02] <user> This is a brand new installation
[20:02] <oCean> urlin2u: pastebin sometimes reports that
[20:02] <oCean> user: The output of apt-cache policy is still the same as before?
[20:02] <usr13> user: apt-cache policy libiso9660-7 |pastebinit
[20:02] <monstro> Pici, okay
[20:02] <urlin2u> oCean, I didn't see it.
[20:02] <usr13> user: ... and paste resulting URL here
[20:03] <user> http://pastebin.com/e9BkvwcD
[20:03] <genii-around> wafflesburger: Can you elaborate on "build string" ?
[20:03] <oCean> urlin2u: no not to you, to someone posting
[20:03] <Guest66053> Q: what is the right place tot ask audio question for 11.04?
[20:03] <wafflesburger> mind if i pm you genii-around
[20:03] <Cypher2> no sorry.. my kbd skipped... it was "question"
[20:03] <knightstalker> Guest66053,probably here
[20:03] <urlin2u> oCean, I didn't see it in the pastebin post
[20:03] <Antonjo> Can you help me installing the prism (p54) driver
[20:03] <Antonjo> ?
[20:04] <oCean> user: ok, I have NO idea why it does not get updated.
[20:04] <Guest66053> Knightstalker thanks!
[20:04] <wafflesburger> i'm tring to configure / compile something
[20:04] <genii-around> wafflesburger: Actually, yes. My policy is to give assistance in the main channnel only.
[20:04] <Guest66053> Q: try to link airport express with ubuntu 11.04. Using pulseaudio -k after startup to find the AE. But ubuntu find it 2 times? And i can't select them, sound preferences hanges. Anybody a idea?? Thanks
[20:04] <wafflesburger> and i need to specy a --build flag
[20:04] <user> This keeps on happening to me...weird crap allways popsup
[20:04] <wafflesburger> an example flag was "--build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
[20:04] <wafflesburger> how can i determine which string i need there
[20:04] <user> Now I'm stuck AGIAN
[20:05] <oCean> user: well, you could try to remove the PPA's from your sources, since those are never officially supported.
[20:05] <BiKER-JENS> hallo all, im new with ubuntu where does my file "land" when i do the mv file.extension .file.extenseion ?
[20:05] <oCean> But I don't see in this case how they could cause this conflict
[20:05] <genii-around> wafflesburger: So then to find out what architecture your machine is, is in the result of: uname -p
[20:05] <oCean> BiKER-JENS: in your current directory, that is in the directory where you issue the command
[20:06] <wafflesburger> its x86_54 genii-around but what abotu the rest of that string :P
[20:06] <wafflesburger> 64*
[20:06] <DangerOnTheRangr> BiKER-JENS: Yep. It's just not displayed by default in Nautilus, since the leading "." indicates that the file is hidden
[20:06] <user> Those are the lastest releases?
[20:06] <BiKER-JENS> arghh okay
[20:06] <BiKER-JENS> thanks then :p
[20:06] <user> I'm going to try a diffrent coutrie's server
[20:06] <BiKER-JENS> thats why ls cant show it :p
[20:07] <DangerOnTheRangr> BiKER-JENS: Use "ls -a"
[20:07] <genii-around> wafflesburger: The one you gave should work
[20:08] <wafflesburger> okies
[20:08] <BiKER-JENS> nice for all the info :D
[20:08] <Antonio007> I need to install the p54 driver-module can you help me?
[20:08] <BiKER-JENS> thanks!
[20:08] <nitroghost> helo!
[20:08] <usr13> Antonio007: What is p54
[20:08] <usr13> ?
[20:08] <nitroghost> got a question, wonder if i can get some feedback
[20:08] <Antonjo> prism driver
[20:08] <nitroghost> i've got a netbook
[20:09] <usr13> Antonio007: prism WiFi NIC?
[20:09] <nitroghost> and ubuntu 10.04
[20:09] <Antonjo> yes
[20:09] <trism> Antonjo: the p54 firmware is in linux-firmware-nonfree, the drivers are included by default
[20:09] <usr13> Antonio007: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[20:09] <nitroghost> and flash videos and contents were somewhat slower than windows
[20:09] <usr13> Antonio007: lsb_release -sc
[20:09] <usr13> show us
[20:10] <nitroghost> wondering if that got fixed or "faster" on the latest version?
[20:10] <Antonjo> ubuntu 11, but I upgraded the kernel to version 3
[20:10] <usr13> Antonjo:  There is your problem.  The new kernel
[20:10] <Antonjo> just a minute, ì'l tell you
[20:10] <user> How is Ubuntu 11?
[20:10] <Cypher2> joined launchpad.. no answer...
[20:10] <adrenalink> I disabled apache process startup on boot from webmin and now Firefox does not load any page..How can I solve this?
[20:12] <Antonjo> sb_release -sc   ->   Natty
[20:12] <Antonjo> lsb_release -sc   ->   Natty
[20:13] <klj613> i've got a NTFS hdd attached (path: /media/Media) however PHP cant chmod it. (i dont want to remove chmod as in production it wont be on NTFS). it has got a umask of 000. what can i do?
[20:13] <trism> Antonjo: we don't support custom kernels here, although there is no reason it shouldn't work assuming you have the firmware from linux-firmware-nonfree and properly enabled the drivers
[20:13] <user> No that my APT-GET INSTALL doesn't work anymore what will happen to all the downloads I just did. About 300MB
[20:13] <klj613> i thought i solved the problem before by using the ntfs-3g driver
[20:14] <Antonjo> The fact is this: the usb stick is US-robotics
[20:14] <Antonjo> I tried nediswrapper
[20:14] <trism> Antonjo: for the stock natty kernel, you need to make sure to update to 2.6.38-11 since there is a bug in versions less than 2.6.38-10 which will cause p54 to fail to connect
[20:14] <Antonjo> but after, say 3 minutes, the system hangs
[20:15] <user> YIPPEEEE, I change country servers and it's working. South Africa's Server is DOWN
[20:15] <BarkingFish> Antonjo, which kernel are you using?
[20:16] <monstro> I'm using the 11.04 with ubuntu classic and it consume many RAM. Is possible to make tunning for decrease the use of memory.
[20:16] <ExtraBob> Hello To install ubuntu 10.10 on my computer from a dvd i need to select the noapic option, how if at all possible do i select that same option from an usb stick for ubuntu 11.04? And I do not have Ubuntu currently installed so I cant upgrade
[20:16] <monstro> ?
[20:16] <Antonjo> unpgrading and ungrading 2.6.38, 2.6.39 etc. now i am on 3.04, but the system keeps freezing when I plug the stick in the usb port
[20:17] <monstro> I have 2GB of RAM and the 11.04 consume about 1GB. :-(
[20:17] <user> Who here used the 200 Line Kernel Patch? Is it worth it?
[20:17] <usr13> monstro:  Well, how does the system run?
[20:17] <BarkingFish> I didn't even know there was a 3.04 kernel, i'm still running 2.6.38-11
[20:17] <BarkingFish> :)
[20:17] <usr13> monstro: Is it performing ok for you?
[20:17] <ExtraBob> Hello To install ubuntu 10.10 on my computer from a dvd i need to select the noapic option, how if at all possible do i select that same option from an usb stick for ubuntu 11.04? And I do not have Ubuntu currently installed so I cant upgrade
[20:18] <usr13> monstro: You could switch to xfce    sudo apt-get install xfce4
[20:18] <BarkingFish> Antonjo, is this a custom kernel you're using?
[20:18] <Antonjo> ok I can boot as you with ...38 again, the problem is which is the proper kernel for ndiswrapper?
[20:18] <Antonjo>  I can boot, as you know, with ...38 again, the problem is which is the proper kernel for ndiswrapper?
[20:18] <BarkingFish> Antonjo, I have ndiswrapper running 2 sticks here on 2.6.38-11 and they both work fine
[20:18] <andaluz> Hello guys, I installed thunderbird 5 with lightning calendar. I encountered a problem when trying to sync my calendar. To configure location I had to do this<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:19] <monstro> usr13, yes, its performace ok.
[20:19] <BarkingFish> you should have no problems
[20:19] <user> ExtraBob Just do an normal installation and deeper in the installation you will be asked about the partitioning
[20:19] <usr13> Antonjo: Boot the stock kernel
[20:19] <usr13> monstro: Very well then.  Enjoy your new system.
[20:19] <BarkingFish> brb
[20:19] <andaluz> however the result is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:19] <TeleportLisa> Hello everyone. I just installed 11.04 and it does not seem to recognise my cd-rom at all. Any thoughts?
[20:19] <ExtraBob> Hello To install ubuntu 10.10 on my computer from a dvd i need to select the noapic option, how if at all possible do i select that same option from an usb stick for ubuntu 11.04? And I do not have Ubuntu currently installed so I cant upgrade
[20:20] <user> GREAT...I thought I was home free: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:20] <usr13> TeleportLisa: eject   #Tell us what happens
[20:20] <andaluz> Somehow lightning adds %20 to my email address
[20:20] <usr13> TeleportLisa: or what error you get...
[20:20] <andaluz> Does anyone know how to work around this?
[20:20] <Antonjo> is stock for natty 2.6.38 ?
[20:20] <user> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)   WHat does this mean?
[20:20] <TeleportLisa> this is the response I get
[20:20] <TeleportLisa> eject: tried to use `/media/cdrom' as device name but it is no block device
[20:20] <TeleportLisa> eject: unable to find or open device for: `cdrom'
[20:21] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob: Ubuntu 11.04 probably won't need noapic (the bug probably would've been fixed), but when booting off USB, hit 'esc' during the purple screen with the icons at the bottom.
[20:21] <th0r> andaluz: that is usually added when there is a space in the name/title
[20:21] <Gnarls> whats up noobuntus?
[20:22] <brontosaurusrex> what is the latest version of chrome stable?
[20:22] <andaluz> th0r, you are right. But, I don't add spaces at all, that's the whole problem. On MS Windows I did the same, which is processed well
[20:22] <ExtraBob> iwantfroyo no the bug is not fixed, when booting from the usb stick it crashes, when booting from the usb the scren is black not purple like 10.10 and i cant seem to find anyway to find a noapic option or any other option for that matter
[20:23] <andaluz> I think it's a bug...
[20:23] <usr13> TeleportLisa: What type of CDROM is it?  IDE?  or...?
[20:23] <usr13> TeleportLisa: Is this a desktop computer or laptop or...?
[20:24] <mongy> ExtraBob, the option is in the F6 menu same as the cd isnt it
[20:24] <TeleportLisa> Laptop computer. It's the internal cd-rom, Philips brand I think. It
[20:24] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob: I'm not sure then. Can you access Grub2 from the USB? (Hitting esc right after the BIOS screen, before the purple screen).
[20:24] <iwantfroyo> mongy, he said he can't get to the purple screen.
[20:24] <TeleportLisa> it's a Gateway computer
[20:25] <usr13> TeleportLisa: ls -l /dev/cdrom | pastebinit
[20:25] <usr13> TeleportLisa: or just tell us what   ls -l /dev/cdrom    says.
[20:25] <user> OMG I'm gonna Fu@!*ing BOOT this pc out the Fu@!ing window...THEN all my problems are fixed.
[20:25] <hydro_> omg i am so lost. Icannot install nvidia drivers...anybody know how to disable xserver
[20:26] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob, if you can get to Grub2, you can edit the first option to include noapic. I'm not sure if this works  from a liveusb, though.
[20:26] <TeleportLisa> ls: cannot access /dev/cdrom: No such file or directory
[20:26] <TeleportLisa> The program 'pastebinit' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[20:26] <ExtraBob> iwantfroyo i can get the options try ubuntu install ubuntu test memory etc etc, BUT the screen is black and white in 11.04 not pink like 10.10 and for me there are no extra options like in 10.10 when you hit f6 over try ubuntu there came up a little square with several option including noapic but this for me from an usb stick does not exist in ubuntu 11.04
[20:26] <TeleportLisa> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[20:26] <TeleportLisa> so should I install?
[20:26] <usr13> yes
[20:26] <Antonjo> usr13:  I tried a live Puppy and my stick worked out of the box. In Puppy with lsmod I saw
[20:26] <Antonjo> mac80211       99898  2 p54usb,p54common.
[20:26] <Antonjo> So I think that I do not need ndiswrapper, is it?
[20:27] <mneptok> user: profanity, even obfuscated, is not welcome
[20:27] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob, I'm not sure if Grub2 is installed on the USB, but you might be able to get to it before hitting the purple screen. esc is the trigger key.
[20:27] <usr13> Antonjo: No, you don't need ndiswrapper
[20:27] <trism> Antonjo: correct, you shouldn't need ndiswrapper, but you will need linux-firmware-nonfree, because the p54 firmware was moved there and it is not installed by default
[20:27] <hydro_> .anybody know how to disable xserver
[20:27] <ExtraBob> iwantfroyo i say again in ubuntu 11.04 the screen is not purple but bacl and white
[20:28] <TeleportLisa> ok installed and re-entered command. got this
[20:28] <TeleportLisa> ls: cannot access /dev/cdrom: No such file or directory
[20:28] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob, and I'm not talking about the screen that asks you the language and whether you want to install or try. I assume you know what Grub2 looks like?
[20:28] <TeleportLisa> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[20:28] <BarkingFish> trism, can I just check, the linux-firmware-nonfree, do you know if there's any firmware in there for atheros usb and rtl8192cu sticks?
[20:28] <Antonjo> because it is full of tutorials for my stick us robotics suggestig ndiswrapper
[20:29] <iwantfroyo> And as long as you can get to the screen that asks if you want to install or try (since it seems that's what you're talking about), then you should be able to edit the menu option from there to include noapic without using F6.
[20:29] <user> Does anyone have the Skype pluging for Rhythmbox? The only freaking place to download it is closed. http://live.gnome.org/RhythmboxPlugins/ThirdParty
[20:29] <trism> Antonjo: prism54 chipsets used to require ndiswrapper
[20:29] <root> .
[20:29] <usr13> TeleportLisa: Have you done updates yet?
[20:29] <TeleportLisa> yes, yesterday
[20:29] <BarkingFish> at the moment, I have 2 usb wifi sticks, an Atheros AR5523 and an RTL8192 stick, both using ndiswrapper. I'd prefer not to run it at all if I can help it.
[20:29] <trism> BarkingFish: I'm sorry, I do not know, I just have a bunch of p54 cards and they need the isl firmware
[20:30] <BarkingFish> ah, ok
[20:30] <BarkingFish> I know about the ath5k module, but that only supports inbuilt cards. It's running my inbuilt wifi right now.
[20:30] <ExtraBob> iwantfroyo for me everything is black and white this option of selecting language does not exist for me in the 11.04 version on an usb stick like it did in 10.10 there is no colour in the 11.04 usb stick version there is no pink
[20:30] <usr13> TeleportLisa: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[20:30] <tvaldes> Can anyone help me burn a DVD as root? gksudo nautilus burn:/// used to work, but now it doesn't in 10.04. I need to preserve permissions and can't archive/compress before burning. Thanks!
[20:31] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob, so excluding the language-screen popup (actually, I don't think this exists in Natty), can you edit menu entries? (I think it's either TAB or 'e')
[20:31] <usr13> tvaldes: You should not have to burn CD as root
[20:31] <user> http://www.stud.fit.vutbr.cz/~xhruby16/rb-plugin/   Can anyone that have the Skype plugin for Rhymbox mail it to me please
[20:31] <Antonjo> trism: i used ndiswrapper, but it freezes everything, then i discovered that with puppy nothing hangs and this line (mac80211       99898  2 p54usb,p54common. ) suggests it is because of no ndis
[20:31] <TeleportLisa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/683834/
[20:31] <usr13> tvaldes: pastebinit /etc/group
[20:31] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob, what I mean is, does it say anywhere: "Try Ubuntu," "Install Ubuntu," "Memory Check," "etc."
[20:32] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob, even if it's black and white, it should work.
[20:32] <ExtraBob> iwantforyo yes i wrote that :) i can select try ubuntu install ubuntu test memory etc etc
[20:32] <ExtraBob> iwantforyo and all of this is in black and white not pink like in 10.10
[20:32] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob, sorry. I must've missed it. Oops. I think it might actually supposed to be black for Natty. It certainly is for Ubuntu Studio and Xubuntu.
[20:33] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob, is it that it's black that is the issue?
[20:33] <AsSlowAsHell> does anyone know of a good channel for discussing security strategies?  I would like to talk to someone to check if my strategy for securing commuications between pre-trusted devices using AES over open ad-hoc 802.11g has flaws (most definately does, I can name a few but have ideas for fixes)
[20:33] <trism> Antonjo: yes, you should use the p54 modules included with the kernel instead of ndiswrapper with recent kernels, download and install linux-firmware-nonfree and linux-image-2.6.38-11-generic from packages.ubuntu.com and it should work fine
[20:33] <Pici> AsSlowAsHell: ##security would be a good start
[20:34] <AsSlowAsHell> Pici, oh wow, thank you
[20:34] <usr13> TeleportLisa: pastebinit /proc/scsi/scsi
[20:34] <AsSlowAsHell> Pici, that didn't come up in my /list security haha
[20:34] <TeleportLisa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/683839/
[20:34] <BarkingFish> trism, sorry to bother you again, but how do you use the firmware once you've installed the package? Where do I put it and so on?
[20:35] <fr0sted> yo all
[20:35] <fr0sted> :)
[20:35] <ExtraBob> iwantfroyo the issue is that there is no noapic option that i can find and without it i cant use ubuntu 11.04 because it simply wont load and freezes, in ubuntu 10.10 by selecting the noapic option would make ubuntu 10.10 run nicely and not freeze during startup
[20:35] <BarkingFish> it looks like the nonfree package actually does have firmware which will run both of my usb wifi sticks so i can shift ndiswrapper
[20:35] <usr13> TeleportLisa: Well, I don't know.  You might reboot and see if it comes up.
[20:36] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob, you can hit 'e' to edit the entries, and just add 'noapic' to the end. You don't have to have the option in 'F6' to do it.
[20:36] <trism> BarkingFish: it should be detected automatically and used if available (for my cards, there is a line in dmesg that will list when the firmware is detected, or missing)
[20:36] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob, Just make sure you edit the option you're going to select. It doesn't do it universally.
[20:36] <mongy> ExtraBob, not sure on your hardware but have you tried nomodeset ?
[20:36] <TeleportLisa> i've tried that already. Oh well. I'll post on the support forum and see if anyone knows. Thanks though  :)
[20:36] <BarkingFish> excellent, thank you trism
[20:37] <BarkingFish> I'm going to drop out and nail ndiswrapper for a moment, reboot and see whether the system picks up anything from the new firmware
[20:37] <BarkingFish> back in a while :)
[20:37] <trism> BarkingFish: good luck
[20:37] <BarkingFish> thanks
[20:37] <BarkingFish> see you in a bit
[20:37] <ExtraBob> iwantfroyo i cant edit any option that is the point i cant edit the option pressing f1-f12 does nothing but gives a peeping sound
[20:38] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob, You don't have to hit those. Just press 'e' while over the option you want to boot.
[20:38] <Antonjo> After installing linux-firmware-nonfree, do i need some modprobe xxxxx command ?
[20:38] <usr13> TeleportLisa: It might be broke.
[20:39] <usr13> Antonjo: You may need to reboot
[20:39] <TeleportLisa> It works fine when I switch back over to windows
[20:39] <trism> Antonjo: when you plug in your card the modules should be loaded automatically
[20:39] <Antonjo> usr13: ok
[20:39] <trism> Antonjo: but yeah, you should reboot if ndiswrapper is already running
[20:39] <Antonjo> plug before reboot?
[20:40] <ExtraBob> iwantfrotyo are you telling me that by pressing the letter E over and option for example try ubuntu or install ubuntu in the usb stick boot menu a window will open that allows my to select different boot options
[20:40] <usr13> Antonjo: Yea, ... doesn't matter
[20:40] <trism> Antonjo: shouldn't matter, you may want to hold off plugging in until after you reboot so you can watch /var/log/kern.log and see the detection messages
[20:40] <ExtraBob> mongy what is nomodset
[20:41] <oCean> !nomodeset | ExtraBob
[20:41] <mongy> ^ im too slow, yeah that lol
[20:41] <ExtraBob>  iwantfrotyo are you telling me that by pressing the letter E over and option for example try ubuntu or install ubuntu in the usb stick boot menu a window will open that allows my to select different boot options
[20:41] <ExtraBob> mongy what you wrote is above my pay grade please dumb it down
[20:42] <tvaldes> usr13: I don't think adding myself to the root group will do it for me to be able to copy/burn some of the files I'm working with... They're rsync'd from a remote server and many of the users/groups don't exist on the local machine. But in any case, I'm no expert: http://pastebin.com/J5wWukrz
[20:42] <mongy> ExtraBob, its a paramter,  like noapic is
[20:42] <mongy> ExtraBob, give it a try
[20:42] <ExtraBob> mongy i do not understand what you wish me to do
[20:42] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob, sorry, I didn't get an alert because you didn't type my name right, so I'm a bit late.
[20:42] <ExtraBob> iwantfroyo my bad of course and i apologize
[20:43] <heat> hi, i need help on ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS. I have some trouble with motd and ssh. I can"t see motd with ssh
[20:43] <TeleportLisa> Another question though. It seems that my desktop keeps changing colors on its own. Sometimes my menu bars and terminal background are black, sometimes they are white. Also the icons for some applications seem to change as well.  Just add 'noapic' to the very end.
[20:44] <ExtraBob> iwantfroyo do you wish me to type on the keyboard and add the word by pressing down on the keyes the word noapic after a code line?
[20:44] <usr13> tvaldes: What is your user name on this PC?
[20:44] <bastidrazor> heat: motd is run by scripts now.. located in /etc/update-motd.d/
[20:44] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob, yes. You type it at the very end.
[20:44] <usr13> tvaldes: who
[20:45] <ExtraBob> iwantfroyo so you want me to select the option try ubuntu from the usb stick then press e then type in noapic and then what press enter?
[20:45] <heat> bastidrazor : yes i knowd i do some script all th e journey in this folder and now i can't see the result (it work with on console)
[20:45] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob: You don't select it. You go down to it with the arrow keys, hit 'e' to edit, type 'noapic' at the end, and press enter.
[20:45] <tvaldes> usr13: Sorry, it's ivinteractive
[20:46] <Safe_> Can you boot into a windows drive with a live-usb stick and move some pictures to the usb-stick, then boot into another windows drive and move the pictures toi t?
[20:46] <ExtraBob> iwantfroyo i will try that now, logging off cheers
[20:46] <gsr> Hi all.  I have ubuntu 11.04 and apache2.  I want to enable /home/*/public_html for apache, so I followed these instructions: http://selinap.com/2009/04/enable-ubuntu-public_html-user-directory-for-apache/.  However, now I'm getting 403: Forbidden on localhost/~myuser.  The perms on /home/myuser/public_html are 0755, and its ownership is myuser:myuser.
[20:46] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob: Cheers.
[20:47] <GhostWolf> hi all, i have installed samba, even configed the smb.conf file and it shows up in vista laptop, but when it pops up for username and password and i type my username and password for ubuntu it tells me login unsuccessful
[20:47] <Safe_> Or rather, how would I go about saving files from a windows disk using a live usb-stick?
[20:48] <BluesKaj> iwantfroyo, hope he remembers to do update-grub
[20:48] <usr13> tvaldes: cdrecord -scanbus | pastebinit  #And paste resulting URL here
[20:48] <iwantfroyo> BluesKaj, update-grub won't help after only doing that. You have to edit /etc/default/grub and THEN run update grub. :)
[20:49] <BluesKaj> still editing grub
[20:50] <tvaldes> usr13: http://pastebin.com/nij9hys1
[20:50] <GhostWolf> is there anything else im missing if im trying to get vista to reconize my ubuntu pc? i believe i did everything correctly but when i went to vista and mapping the network drive it just prompts a username and password and then tells me the username and or password is not correct
[20:51] <GhostWolf> btw as i also just realized, since i changed the smb.conf file should i restart samba? if so how do i go bout doing that maybe thats the problem i have?
[20:52] <Antonjo> trism: With live puppy, issuing lsmod |grep p54,  I saw this:
[20:52] <Antonjo> http://pastebin.com/riyRSmaK
[20:52] <Antonjo> Now lsmod |grep p54 gives a blank line
[20:53] <rumpe1> GhostWolf, somehow the deamon has to know, that there's a new config to read. I don't use samba, but maybe "sudo service samba restart" will do the trick.
[20:53] <usr13> tvaldes: You will need to install a CD or DVD Writer before you can burn CDs
[20:53] <celldee> Ghostwolf: sudo service smbd restart
[20:53] <trism> Antonjo: can you pastebin the dmesg output when you plug in your card?
[20:53] <Antonjo> ok
[20:54] <GhostWolf> rumpe1, ok, all i know is i did it before, but in 11.04 i also remembering that there was samba in the system settings and i just did a fresh install cause i had a problem with an old hdd
[20:54] <BarkingFish> trism, unfortunately, the autodetection was a spectacular failure
[20:54] <GhostWolf> celldee, would that work if i only installed samba? meaning someone earlier just told me to do sudo apt-get install samba and nothing else
[20:54] <ExtraBob> iwantfroyo pressing the keyboard letter E does nothing run ubuntu option is slected, pressing tab gives a code line int he bottom, pressing tab and then typing in the word noapic does also nothing and the thing starts to run and freezes
[20:55] <BarkingFish> neither of my devices were picked up, but firmware exists in the nonfree setup for both pieces of equipment. Any ideas on what I do now?
[20:55] <TeleportLisa> It seems that my desktop keeps changing colors on its own. Sometimes my menu bars and terminal background are black, sometimes they are white. Also the icons for some applications seem to change as well. What is causing this?
[20:55] <celldee> GhostWolf: You can check to see if Samba is running - sudo service smbd status
[20:55] <usr13> TeleportLisa: Could be that your video card is overheating.
[20:55] <GhostWolf> celldee, ok just one second
[20:56] <oxseyn> Banshee just crashed on me, then continued to crash every time I attempted to start the application.  I removed it and reinstalled it using apt, but it still crashes on startup.  Any idea what I can do?
[20:56] <GhostWolf> celldee, it is, says its start/running
[20:56] <trism> BarkingFish: did you look at the dmesg output when plugging in your card?
[20:56] <BarkingFish> trism, yes, there was none.
[20:56] <usr13> TeleportLisa: Maybe your PC needs a good cleaning?
[20:56] <celldee> GhostWolf: OK so restart it and see what happens
[20:57] <GhostWolf> ok celldee just did. im going to try again on vista see if it lets me connect with the username/password. i haven't set the password or username but its weird how vista asks me for it
[20:57] <ExtraBob> iwantfroyo pressing the keyboard letter E does nothing run ubuntu option is slected, pressing tab gives a code line int he bottom, pressing tab and then typing in the word noapic does also nothing and the thing starts to run and freezes
[20:57] <trism> BarkingFish: which wireless usb device is this?
[20:57] <TeleportLisa> usr13: is there some way to check if it's overheating? and by cleaning do you mean like physically with alcohol or something, or cleaning up files and things
[20:58] <usr13> TeleportLisa: I mean physical cleaning.  Is this a Desktop or Laptop computer?
[20:58] <TeleportLisa> laptop computer
[20:58] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob: weird.
[20:58] <phpcip> ey guys
[20:58] <BarkingFish> trism, the first one is a Siemens Gigaset USB 108 (129B:160C) and the second is an RTL 8167, using the 8192cu firmware (0BDA:8167)
[20:58] <phpcip> I have a strange question if you feel up to the challenge
[20:58] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob: What works on one version won't work on another.
[20:58] <usr13> TeleportLisa: Yea, the motherboard could be overheating.
[20:58] <ExtraBob> iwantfroyo is it possible that a dvd version of 11.04 would give more options
[20:59] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob: Try some more options.
[20:59] <BarkingFish> the Siemens stick is using AR5523 chipset, trism
[20:59] <Antonjo> trism: dmesg you required:    http://pastebin.com/A9h5Ggch
[20:59] <StrangeCharm> when my laptop running natty is connected to an external vga display and i close the screen before unplugging the display; when i reopen the screen, it shows only black and white vertical stripes about 5px wide. the only way to resolve it is to close the screen again, plug it in, open the screen and then un-plug it. how can i make this not happen?
[20:59] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob: It's possible. I think that they have different boot screens.
[20:59] <yacc> Any idea how to make Ubuntu (10.04LTS) probe freshly my graphics?
[20:59] <phpcip> what I'm trying to do is block access to my website, based on certain urls or URL regex from specific IP addresses.
[20:59] <ExtraBob> iwantfroyo i can not try any options that is the problem there for me is no way to try more option because there are no options to choose from
[20:59] <usr13> TeleportLisa: But that is just one of several possibilities, but is the most-likely one.
[20:59] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob, you can still type them in.
[20:59] <tvaldes> usr13: I seem to be able to burn cd's using either CD/DVD creator (burn:///), brasero, and gnomebaker as the normal user. Is there something else I need to install?
[20:59] <Dinux17> I have a major problem
[21:00] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob: The Ubuntu Wiki has something on boot commands. Wait a moment.
[21:00] <ExtraBob> iwantfroyo :)
[21:00] <TeleportLisa> usr13: what is a way to solve that? not running two OS?
[21:00] <yeats> !details | Dinux17
[21:00] <usr13> tvaldes: pastebinit /proc/scsi/scsi    #And paste resulting URL here
[21:00] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDBootOptions
[21:00] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob: a bit down the page,
[21:01] <trism> Antonjo: odd, try: sudo modprobe p54usb; and then plugging it in again
[21:01] <Antonjo> ok
[21:01] <Dinux17> I accidently deleted a quarter million project on a Linux server
[21:01] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob, there's a screenshot that shows some of the options. You can type them in.
[21:01] <Dinux17> dollar*
[21:01] <GhostWolf> celldee, still a no go, it keeps saying username and or password are not correct. but i haven't added a username or password to samba's config file. just changed the Workgroup to MSHOME and added some info at the end to show the directory of where the files go to
[21:01] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob, You might want to write them down, though.
[21:01] <Dinux17> can I recover that?
[21:01] <celldee> GhostWolf: If you look in /var/log/syslog do you see any error messages?
[21:01] <mneptok> Dinux17: good ting you spent a little of that .25M on backups, right?
[21:02] <BarkingFish> Dinux17, I don't think that's something we can help with.  The only thing to check if you've deleted it, is that you haven't emptied the trash folder on the server
[21:02] <ezyang> Hello all. I would like to publish a new version in a PPA of a package for Natty, in lieu of a previous maintainer. There have been no changes, and this is a source only package. What do I do?
[21:02] <ExtraBob> iwantfroyo i think possibly i will just install the 10.10 ubuntu version since i know it works :)
[21:02] <cereal> anyone know why my lucid box is not autoconfiguring an ipv6 address?
[21:02] <BarkingFish> If you have, good luck, cause your bank account will have a massive $250k hole in it
[21:02] <genii-around> Dinux17: Since it has such a good budget, might want to just pull the hd and send it to a data recovery lab
[21:02] <NoReGreT> im' getting an error message after login, i have no idea to which process it belongs to, is there any way for that ? the error: http://i.imgur.com/CxIar.png
[21:02] <tvaldes> usr13: http://pastebin.com/7drNmzUa
[21:02] <Dinux17> deleted using shell, there is no trashbin
[21:02] <cereal> I don't have ufw installed, and I see the icmp6 router advertisements :(
[21:02] <kdog> libreoffice is opening my spreadsheet in the wrong workspace. Anyone else seeing this happen?
[21:02] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob: No harm in that. I don't really like Natty anyways. Running Lucid right now.
[21:02] <BarkingFish> Dinux17, I suspect you'll find that's gone then.
[21:03] <Dinux17> genii-around, they are not happy with that, not at all
[21:03] <BarkingFish> As genii-around said, data recovery lab may be your only option
[21:03] <yeats> Dinux17: then it's probably something for data forensics
[21:03] <GhostWolf> celldee, im trying to connect to ubuntu from vista, theres a file i need and its a huge file that is compressed and i can connect with my xp os thats on another hdd on this pc, but that hdd is smaller and doesn't allow me to copy it to xp
[21:04] <Dinux17> are there no recovery prodecures or programs?
[21:04] <Dinux17> like photorec?
[21:04] <yeats> d
[21:04] <usr13> tvaldes: You say that you are able to burn cd's "using either CD/DVD creator (burn:///), brasero, and gnomebaker"  on THIS computer?
[21:04] <yeats> Dinux17: not really - the best solution for that kind of thing is regular backups
[21:05] <trism> BarkingFish: from a quick search, it doesn't seem like the ar5523 driver is included in the kernel yet (although the info I found may be outdated), http://wiki.debian.org/ar5523 describes how to build the work-in-progress one (may be better off with ndiswrapper if it is working though)
[21:05] <CyberWorld> Moving parts that including cd/dvd/blu-ray drives go out often
[21:05] <youngin> You know after a while when you use your keyboard, keys (especially the space bar) gets these shiny grease spots, that remain even after you try to clean them. Why is that?
[21:05] <Dinux17> backups where placed on the same server
[21:05] <tvaldes> usr13: Yes, definitely on this computer in its current state
[21:06] <ezyang> Or, if someone can recommend a more relevant channel, that would also be helpful.
[21:06] <usr13> tvaldes: Really?
[21:06] <ExtraBob> iwantfroyo i made a post about my questions in the forums, maybe you can answer some or all or maybe you can ask your friends or everyone :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11224954#post11224954
[21:06] <usr13> tvaldes: What is the problem we were just now tryint to solve?
[21:06] <usr13> *trying  not  tryint
[21:06] <celldee> GhostWolf: Are you seeing the file via Samba from XP?
[21:06] <Safe_> youngin, the plastic warp because of the moisture from your fingers
[21:06] <youngin> *AIRHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORN*
[21:07] <youngin> Yeah, but why won't it come off.  The files I'd like to backup are rsync'd from a remote server with permission preserved, so I'm not sure how else to do it.
[21:08] <BluesKaj> youngin, , pls watch the language
[21:08] <Zoopee> Assuming that I am required to use NetworkManager for some stupid reason, is there a way to make it do something useful like disconnect from WiFi when a wired Ethernet interface comes up?
[21:08] <ezyang> OK, thanks.
[21:08] <youngin> BluesKaj: shut up man
[21:08] <ExtraBob> cheers all i am logging
[21:08] <usr13> tvaldes: Is it a Desktop computer?
[21:08] <improveupon> everyone tells me it is the drive, but again, windows never does this.
[21:08] <youngin> Safe_: why dont they make undistortable plastic?
[21:08] <BarkingFish> trism, i'll keep what i have for now then. Thanks for the help anyway :)
[21:08] <BluesKaj> !language | youngin
[21:08] <Zoopee> (i.e. when I plug in a cable and it succeeds toget an address and usable settings by DHCP)
[21:08] <Safe_> youngin, too expensive/not possible? not really a ubuntu-specific question though :)
[21:09] <youngin> keys with the same type of plastic through and through
[21:09] <tvaldes> usr13: yes, it's ubuntu 10.04 Desktop.
[21:09] <celldee> GhostWolf: Sorry I have to go now my daughter needs to be collected.   The Sony or the other one?
[21:10] <Antonjo> trism: it is working!!!!!
[21:10] <Antonjo> Out of curiosity: google ubuntu/linux usb USR5422, they all claim using ndiswrapper which hangs. Let's spread the word.
[21:10] <Zoopee> keithb:  cool;  unfortunately mine doesn't.  Any idea where this would be configured?
[21:10] <Antonjo> trism,  usr13  Thanks (and some thanks to Puppy distro too)
[21:11] <Zoopee> All I find to control it is the UI provided by the nm-applet menu, which only lets me configure a few things such as IP addresses and to what networks to connect automatically.
[21:11] <iwantfroyo> ExtraBob, I made a post on your thread.
[21:11] <trism> Antonjo: excellent! you're welcome
[21:11] <usr13> tvaldes: The information you have sent me so far indicates that they are not writers.  Neither one of them are identified as "writer".    See: http://pastebin.com/nij9hys1 & http://pastebin.com/7drNmzUa
[21:11] <LearnUbuntu> Where is my sessionsx? Under 11.04?
[21:13] <keithb> Zoopee: I'd start with /etc/NetworkManager/*
[21:13] <ChogyDan> anyone know anything about making an s-video out port work on an nvidia card?
[21:13] <yacc> What do I need to do when I install a new graphics card into an existing box?
[21:14] <Brutus-> Hi, i'm watching the fstab man. There is write 'for more documentation ... have a look at nfs(5)' . What does nfs(5) mean?
[21:14] <ChogyDan> yacc: is it nvidia or ati?
[21:14] <yacc> ChogyDan, which driver? (Nvidia offers a choice of 3: nv old opensource, nouveau new opensource, nvidia closed source)
[21:14] <POVaddct> Brutus-: section 5 of the manpages (man 5 nfs)
[21:14] <usr13> tvaldes: You have two DVD readers, first is the Sony the other is Atapi  So, which one is the DVD Writer?
[21:15] <ChogyDan> yacc: nvidia, closed source
[21:15] <tvaldes> usr13: I know they both say "CD-ROM" and not DVD-RW or whatever it is that indicates them as writers, but one definitely is a writer, and the other is not. It even pops up with "Blank DVD-ROM" and asks to write to it... Is there an easy way to figure out which is which? I'm looking into it now. I appreciate all the help!
[21:15] <yacc> ChogyDan, then nvidia-settings is your "tool of choice".
[21:15] <usr13> tvaldes: Which one is it?  The Sony?  Or the other one?
[21:15] <POVaddct> Brutus-: manpages are divided into sections. for example, section 1 is user commmands, section 5 is config files, section 8 is admin commands.
[21:15] <ChogyDan> yacc: wait, are you answering my question?
[21:16] <yacc> ChogyDan, in my case it's one last try to make Nouveau work with my onboard 7050 nvidia, and afterwards if that does not work, a PCIe ATI Radeon will be installed.
[21:16] <Brutus-> POVaddct, when i write man 5 nfs on terminal says there is not man for nfs :(
[21:16] <yacc> ChogyDan, trying, at least by adding what I know.
[21:16] <ivan83> hello people
[21:16] <tvaldes> usr13: I'm working on it.. The faces of the drives are void of any branding.. Just the typical DVD-RW logos.
[21:16] <ivan83> :)
[21:16] <usr13> tvaldes: You should be able to look at the front of the drive. One of them should say Sony
[21:16] <ChogyDan> yacc: well, the kernel will detect drivers automatically for all the opensource and installed stuff
[21:16] <hostdream> hello, is there a way to make a ubuntu mirror on a centos ? (with rsync)
[21:17] <usr13> tvaldes: Well, if you don't know, I don't either.
[21:17] <tvaldes> usr13: It's the Sony DDU1615
[21:17] <ChogyDan> yacc: I am looking at the nvidia-settings prog, but I don't see anything.  Hence my need for help unfortunately  :(
[21:17] <yacc> ChogyDan, my current happyness level with nvidia is not exactly high: nouveau relies on KMS, when the KMS noveau module gets loaded, my LCDs go into powersaving mode, and to get them back from blackness, I need to reboot.
[21:17] <POVaddct> Brutus-: if you want to look up some nfs specific mount options, look into man mount
[21:17] <usr13> tvaldes: So the Sony is the burner.  Right?
[21:18] <ChogyDan> yacc: try the closed source driver
[21:18] <yeats> Brutus-: 'sudo apt-get install nfs-common' - then you'll be able to do 'man nfs'
[21:18] <yacc> ChogyDan, going with nv, by disabling nouveau KMS, I end with a Xserver that uses only one LCD, and the other LCD displays nice memory dump graphics, ...
[21:18] <tvaldes> usr13: Sorry, jumped the gun there. NOT the sony...  The other is a LiteON 20x DVD burner.
[21:19] <yacc> ChogyDan, and going with nvidia-173, now that's the curious one, the box started to freeze since then :(
[21:19] <usr13> tvaldes: So what is it you want to put on a one?  An iso?
[21:19] <PeterVenkman> Is someone familiar with a "sink callback failure" related to pavucontrol?
[21:19] <Brutus-> POVaddct, yeats, thank you
[21:20] <yacc> ChogyDan, so I can choose nonworking LCD panels (Nouveau), one working LCD panel (nv), or two working LCDs (nvidia) with random crashes (with no kernel oops, and SysRQ not working, hard dead).
[21:20] <ChogyDan> yacc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-kernel-common/+bug/195139
[21:20] <Antonjo> A little piece of advice by you experts.
[21:20] <Antonjo> In my insane efforts to get my driver working I keep on upgrading kernel.
[21:20] <Antonjo> Now I get to 3.0.4. With lubuntu and no apps opened I use 63 mega out of 211.
[21:20] <Antonjo> In any case everything seems smooth. Do you advise to downgrade?
[21:20] <Antonjo> *** i_is_broke<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
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[21:20] <tvaldes> Just some files backed up from a remote server. The thing is they're rsync'd with permissions preserved, so I'm unable to copy/burn them unless I can do so as root. Many of the users/groups on the remote server do not exist on the local machine.
[21:20] <Antonjo>  <PeterVenkman> Is someone familiar with a "sink callback failure" related to pavucontrol?
[21:20] <Antonjo> *** pawz<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has left #ubuntu
[21:20] <FloodBot1> Antonjo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:20] <tvaldes> usr13: Sorry, forgot to flag your name in that last response.
[21:20] <yacc> ChogyDan, it worked before, and it's Ubuntu 10.04 not 7.10 ;)
[21:21] <Antonjo> something wrong with my irc client
[21:21] <NoReGreT> im' getting an error message after login, i have no idea to which process it belongs to, is there any way for that ? the error: http://i.imgur.com/CxIar.png
[21:21] <usr13> tvaldes: What software are you using?
[21:21] <PeterVenkman> Antonjo:  is that a yes?
[21:21] <usr13> tvaldes: Do you have it all in one directory?
[21:22] <usr13> tvaldes: If so, what is the name of the directory?
[21:22] <tvaldes> usr13: I was hoping to use the standard CD/DVD burner that ubuntu tries to use by default.
[21:22] <Antonjo> SORRY ALL. Ssomething was wrong with my irc client and i reposted some of your lines
[21:22] <zeus_> Hi all, i've just installed ubuntu on my pc. I'd like to have an interface similar to windows. Excuse me but i do not like Unity. What do i have to install ?
[21:22] <yacc> ChogyDan, even funnier is that "Hardware drivers" or whatever the tool is called in English tells me "no propertary drivers used" while I run nvidia-173 :)
[21:23] <xangua> !classic | zeus_
[21:23] <edbian> zeus_: log out, click your name, change the session, log in
[21:23] <xangua> or try kde
[21:23] <ChogyDan> yacc: there is a ppa to use updated drivers, that might be an option for you.  It looks like 185 is the latest for your card
[21:23] <tvaldes> usr13: I mirror the remote server's web directory in one called "file_backups" on the local machine
[21:23] <yacc> ChogyDan, well, I'd be more than happy with nouveau if I could make it work, ...
[21:23] <yacc> Anyway time to reboot into Nouveau land, ...
[21:24] <zeus_> edbian: ohh !   I was wondering if that got fixed or "faster" on the latest versions?
[21:29] <Zoopee> keithb:  can't find any hints of that there;  do you have any lines in there on your system that appear to be responsible for this behaviour?
[21:29] <NoReGreT> TheMatrix3000: try TOR's hidden services
[21:30] <rww> TheMatrix3000: For Ubuntu's implementation, see http://cloud.ubuntu.com/ (which I don't know much about). #ubuntu-server may also be useful.
[21:30] <rww> NoReGreT: Tor isn't "cloud computing" :P
[21:31] <NoReGreT> right, but it's private =)
[21:31] <xangua> nitroghost: flash sucks in linux
[21:31] <linxeh> flash sucks period
[21:31] <POVaddct> xangua: flash sucks in any OS. and it is a big security hole.
[21:31] <usr13> tvaldes: ls -l /dev/dvd*  | pastebinit
[21:32] <keithb> Zoopee: No nothing, come to think of it it should be in the routing table, normally the wireless interfaces have a higher routing "cost" than wired and this is what leads to the wired interface being preferred
[21:32] <Zoopee> keithb:  ah, I didn't mean that
[21:33] <linxeh> POVaddct: to be fair, most things are security holes :)
[21:33] <IGITIHI> Hello there! I have serious problem with LUbuntu, I can't even boot. Can anybody help? Here's the description: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1839975
[21:33] <tvaldes> usr13: http://pastebin.com/mPnHYq9f
[21:34] <Somelauw> Would anyone know if it is possible to shrink a vfat partition and put a ext4 partition on the remaining space?
[21:34] <edbian> Somelauw: yes it is possible
[21:35] <usr13> tvaldes: dvdrecord --scanbus | pastebinit
[21:35] <yeats> Somelauw: or you could just reformat the vfat drive to ext4 and skip the shrinking ;-)
[21:35] <Somelauw> edbian: thanks. Is there a big risk of data loss?
[21:35] <NoReGreT> im' getting an error message after login, i have no idea to which process it belongs to, is there any way for that ? the error: http://i.imgur.com/CxIar.png [this was a mounted SDCARD, and ubuntu here is a VM]
[21:36] <edbian> Somelauw: There is a small risk of data loss
[21:36] <keithb> Zoopee: gtg, sorry but good luck
[21:36] <NoReGreT> any help?
[21:36] <Somelauw> yeats: I can't put all those files on the harddrive of my laptop (not enough space)
[21:36] <Somelauw> So, I want to gradually convert it to ext4.
[21:36] <tvaldes> usr13: dvdrecord is not installed. I'll install now.
[21:38] <tvaldes> usr13: http://pastebin.com/N2HGwTKY
[21:39] <Somelauw> Using gnu parted?
[21:39] <LearnUbuntu> How can i run application to the screen, via SSH? i tried this: $ export DISPLAY=":0.0" && terminal
[21:39] <tbocs> Somelauw, yes use gparted on live usb.
[21:39] <LearnUbuntu> But failed $ export DISPLAY=":0.0" && terminal
[21:40] <isaac> Hi guys, I'm an uber noob and followed a tutorial how to host a website with ubuntu(not server just normal, cus I'm a super noob), and since I can't host on port 80 I had to use a different port, 8080 so now I have to add :8080 to the end of the url. Is there a way to make it automatically go to 8080 instead of 80?
[21:40] <isaac> Thanks in advance :)
[21:40] <tbocs> LearnUbuntu, what do you mean? run X-window apps through ssh?
[21:41] <LearnUbuntu> tbocs, yes i am connected from my laptop to Ubuntu 11.04 via SSH. Where my Monitor is showing Ubuntu desktop. But using remote SSH i want to run $ export DISPLAY=":0.0" && terminal  (the terminal which fails).
[21:42] <Somelauw> Or fdisk
[21:42] <tbocs> LearnUbuntu, hmmm ... I doubt if you can run the whole desktop like that.
[21:43] <LearnUbuntu> tbocs, normally yes in Fedora works. But dont know Ubuntu way.
[21:43] <tbocs> LearnUbuntu, I enjoy using the remote desktop program in the Ubuntu ...
[21:43] <travelton> isaac: Why not setup the site on 80?
[21:43] <tbocs> LearnUbuntu, Do you need to add things to the ssh command? like -X or -Y?
[21:43] <tbocs> !remote-desktop
[21:43] <usr13> tvaldes: mkisofs -o file_backups.iso file_backups  ;  growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvdrw1 file_backups.iso
[21:43] <tbocs> !remotedesktop
[21:43] <LearnUbuntu> tbocs, i am using VNC, ssh -X (But that is not i am trying now). I want to run application in that remote Desktop
[21:44] <isaac> travelton, that port is blocked even if I forward it.
[21:44] <isaac> I can use any other port, though.
[21:44] <isaac> or most
[21:44] <isaac> I mean.
[21:44] <TheMatrix3000> !cloud
[21:44] <tbocs> tbocs, Sorry can't help you then.
[21:44] <Somelauw> I have no experience in either
[21:44] <travelton> isaac: You won't be able to forward to 8080 unless you have control of 80. I'm really interested in why 80 would be blocked. You should research further to figure out why 80 is being blocked.
[21:45] <travelton> isaac: Can you describe the symptoms when you attempted to host on 80?
[21:45] <usr13> tvaldes: See if that gives any errors.
[21:45] <LearnUbuntu> tbocs, is it not like /etc/sudoers?
[21:45] <LearnUbuntu> Something like root	ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL forgot.. it
[21:46] <isaac> travelton, I have it set so that it can use port 80, and 8080. http://epicmilk.com/ <-doesn't work but add :8080 it does
[21:47] <travelton> isaac: What tutorial did you use?
[21:47] <tbocs> LearnUbuntu, sorry no idea about that.
[21:47] <LearnUbuntu> tbocs, no worries, i can hack
[21:48] <ubuntuec2> I just signed up for a EC2 account and using natty AMI. After creating a new user, I cannot login: Permission denied (publickey). How can I solve it?
[21:49] <isaac> travelton,  http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/build-linux-web-server-computer-part-1/
[21:49] <zeus_> another question. Flash plugin is missing. What to do ?
[21:49] <BiKER-JENS> whats the best antivirus for a ubuntu server? clamAC or?
[21:50] <BiKER-JENS> clamAV*
[21:50] <travelton> isaac: Do you have a router? If so, you might be able to port forward to 80 -> 8080... What kind of router do you have, maybe I can help...
[21:50] <usr13> tvaldes: LearnUbuntu  export DISPLAY=:0.0
[21:50] <Logan_> !best | BiKER-JENS
[21:51] <isaac> I have a d-link. Right now I just have it in the dmz to see if it would work like that
[21:51] <isaac> The desktop hosting the site, I mean.
[21:51] <BiKER-JENS> haha
[21:51] <littlegirl> Hey there, my son uses Ubuntu Lucid Lynx and recently grabbed whatever updates Ubuntu offered. He hadn't opened a terminal window since then, and when he did so today, the color settings were different. Should he be concerned, or could they have been adjusted by the update?
[21:51] <LearnUbuntu> usr13, failed
[21:52] <BiKER-JENS> Logan_,  I'm thinking about cpu and ram ussage
[21:52] <usr13> LearnUbuntu: Are you in a ssh session?
[21:52] <LearnUbuntu> usr13, yes sun      pts/0        2011-09-06 22:46  (ip hidden)
[21:52] <zykotick9> littlegirl, i'd actually say that would be "unusual" for an update to have done.  Using Edit / Profile Preferences you could change it back if you wished.
[21:52] <usr13> LearnUbuntu  export DISPLAY=:0.0   Failed?
[21:52] <isaac> Thanks a bunch btw, travelton :D
[21:52] <Logan_> BiKER-JENS: Sorry, I don't use anti-virus.
[21:52] <BiKER-JENS> hehe bad boy ;-)
[21:53] <travelton> isaac: That's probably your problem. You should setup port forwarding so that any requests that hit port 80 on your router translate to 8080 on your desktop.
[21:53] <LearnUbuntu> usr13, export DISPLAY=:0.0 && terminal ; The program 'terminal' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:  apt-get install rsplib-tools
[21:53] <travelton> isaac: no problem! It's just a matter of getting that setup.. I would really caution you against setting up your desktop under DMZ.  He's just wondering why it changed. Now I seem to remember the default terminal color for Ubuntu is a white background with black writing, right? That's what it changed to, so I'm thinking it went back to default as a result of the update.
[21:53] <usr13> LearnUbuntu: sudo apt-get install rsplib-tools
[21:53] <zykotick9> LearnUbuntu, gnome-terminal perhaps? or xterm?
[21:53] <LearnUbuntu> usr13, export DISPLAY=:0.0 && firefox ; same
[21:53] <usr13> LearnUbuntu: Do as it says.
[21:54] <LearnUbuntu> zykotick9, same filed
[21:54] <usr13> LearnUbuntu: You only have to run  export DISPLAY=:0.0   once (per session)
[21:54] <LearnUbuntu> usr13, let me do that..
[21:54] <zykotick9> littlegirl, i suppose that's possible - updates shouldn't typically change "user" settings however
[21:54] <Bash> Is it not possible to install programs on a live usb stick?
[21:54] <isaac> travelton, Yeah I was planning on eventually just forwarding the ports I needed... To do the 80 to 8080 thing, do you think it'd be in Application rules? The Application Rules option is used to open single or multiple ports in your firewall when the router senses data sent to the Internet on a outgoing "Trigger" port or port range. Special Applications rules apply to all computers on your internal network.
[21:54] <littlegirl> zykotick9: True. Is it something he should be concerned about that the settings did change?
[21:55] <zykotick9> Bash, you can install stuff - it just won't be permanent
[21:55] <LearnUbuntu> usr13, error: cannot open display: :0.0   firefox when i tried
[21:55] <luc_> hi im new to linux is the a way or a program that has virtual drive on it like daemon tools
[21:55] <zykotick9> littlegirl, i wouldn't personally be worried no.
[21:55] <Bash> zykotick9: even if I have a hefty amount of "persistant" space?
[21:55] <littlegirl> zykotick9: Okay, thanks!
[21:55] <usr13> LearnUbuntu: See my PM
[21:55] <zykotick9> Bash, persistant space if for file storage, not programs
[21:55] <Bash> Darn.
[21:55] <hostdream> hello, I'd like to create an ubuntu mirror (for local installs) and like to know how to only rsync the version I need (Lucid) and not the whole repo rsync://ftp.acc.umu.se/ubuntu/ ?
[21:56] <Logan_> !info gmountiso | luc_
[21:56] <travelton> isaac: Application rules sounds right. I'm not 100% sure tho. Every router calls it something else ;)
[21:56] <aj00200> Where can I find python3-gobject for Ubuntu 11.04
[21:56] <Bash> zykotick9: But irssi stayed even after I booted into the usb stick, does it differentiate between small enough programs?
[21:57] <zykotick9> Bash, if you want to use a USB drive as a real desktop, i'd personally recommend doing a full install onto the USB (vs persistence) [NOTE installing onto USB requires specifically telling grub where to install]
[21:58] <travelton> isaac: Your best bet might be trial and error. But it looks like you have Apache setup and working... Good job!
[21:58] <anirban> Hello gentlemen.
[21:58] <jamiewan> BiKER-JENS: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[21:58] <travelton> isaac: If you get frustrated, just take a step back and read this awesome blog: http://495west.com/post/9885249988/the-wrong-question-i-want-to-learn-to-code-what?73331330
[21:58] <anirban> My evince can't open djvu books. :( Any help?
[21:58] <zykotick9> Bash, re:irssi - i'm not sure, where did you install irssi to?  That could certainly make a difference.  Persistence is not something I've used extensively, after initial testing i decided full installs to USB where more useful for me personally.
[21:59] <Bash> zykotick9: That sounds reasonable, was a long time ago I tinkered with ubuntu, would it suffice to use a 4gb stick if I want some smaller programs + some space for file keeping?
[21:59] <anirban> Nevermind, I installed the debugging symbols and it worked
[21:59] <Bash> zykotick9: I just used apt-get install irssi and it stayed after a reboot.
[22:00] <isaac> travelton, Thanks :D! I had an application rule of 80 trigger and 8080 firewall, and it was causing the site to not let me connect every other time I tried pretty much. Hopefully it was just cus it was in the dmz or something though. And thanks for the blog link :D.
[22:00] <travelton> isaac: Other way around... 80 should be the firewall... Right?
[22:00] <zykotick9> Bash, FYI ubuntu's requirements state 5GB minimum HD space - i've done a lot of Ubuntu installs onto 4GB and have always run out of space quickly (you could of course use Minimal install media and make Ubuntu much smaller, but that's not the typical desktop anymore)
[22:01] <isaac> travelton, it opens the firewall port when it senses the trigger port, I think. So it's how I had it, right?
[22:01] <Bash> zykotick9: I wouldn't need the extras, as media players or compiz or anything, just the barebones, but if you say it's too small I will get a 16gb stick instead
[22:02] <travelton> isaac: Oh. That's why... Application Trigger doesn't sound right.
[22:03] <zykotick9> Bash, 4GB too small for standard Desktop, but you COULD use minimal to install a smaller environment - i use 8GB quite comfortable for my Virtual Machines
[22:03] <travelton> isaac: I have to run, but I'll be happy to help you further. If you DM me, I'll send you my email address.
[22:03] <Bash> zykotick9: Right, I'll get 16gb just to avoid problems.
[22:04] <lsaac> travelton, What else could it be?  and I disconnected cus I was playing with the router and it had to reset XD
[22:04] <cozmoz> hey, if I want firefox to use VLC media player for all my files, how do I do that?
[22:04] <Bash> zykotick9: One last question, as I will use this live ubuntu only to retrieve files from broken windows disks, is it possible to transfer files from this one to a seperate windows disk?
[22:05] <zykotick9> Bash, i don't see why not...
[22:05] <travelton> isaac: I have to run, but I'll be happy to help you further. If you DM me, I'll send you my email address.
[22:05] <Bash> zykotick9: Perfect. Thanks for your help!
[22:06] <neeraj> How can I prevent/delete desktop icons of the hard dirve which I mount?
[22:06] <lsaac> travelton, DM?
[22:06] <zykotick9> lsaac, he meant PM (Private Message) i'm sure
[22:07] <travelton> isaac: Yes, sorry. PM
[22:07] <zykotick9> lsaac, if they meant Dungeon Master I got nothin' ;)
[22:07] <LearnUbuntu> How do i install Sun java? (not openJDK) failed e.g: https://gist.github.com/1199138
[22:08] <lsaac> zykotick9, :P
[22:08] <zykotick9> LearnUbuntu, since oracle just pulled the plug on Distros being able to install Java you need to go through them to install it (if possible, I'd recommend you use OpenJDK if at all possible)
[22:08] <trism> neeraj: in gconf-editor: I think it is, /apps/nautilus/desktop uncheck volumes_visible
[22:09] <IGITIHI> Hi to al! I can' boot Ubuntu, I get "Ntp server - No such file or directory". Any help?
[22:10] <aj00200> does anyone know where I can get python3-gobject for 11.04? I'd like to start work on my 11.10 apps before it is released.
[22:10] <LearnUbuntu> zykotick9, thank you, you are right but i used Fedora where transparency failed. So was trying to test this JNLP sample from Oracle in latest Ubuntu e.g: http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/GUI/translucent_shaped_windows/
[22:10] <zykotick9> IGITIHI, NTP stops Ubuntu booting?  That's hard to believe...
[22:10] <coraxx> What does one do, if one wants to contribute to Linux/Ubuntu with driver-development ...in this particular case USB scanner-drivers for SANE ?
[22:11] <aj00200> coraxx: i'm just guessing but you might want to find the SANE website or see if they have a project on Launchpad
[22:11] <tomodachi> coraxx: i guess you could start by checking out who is the package maintainer for the ubuntu package, then google yourself upstream to some sources, where you can commit your code
[22:11] <tomodachi> at least thats why I would do
[22:11] <zykotick9> LearnUbuntu, good luck.  I'm one of those people that try to avoid Proprietary or non-distro based installs.  I've also never had too much use for java, so little personal experinece.  Hope you get it all working.
[22:12] <LearnUbuntu> zykotick9, no worries!! thanks
[22:13] <IGITIHI> zykotick9: I have no idea what ntp is but that's when the boot process stops. That's the last message I get. But I messed my system up, trying to switch from Ubuntu to LUbuntu. Any ideas? How could I repair it?
[22:13] <zykotick9> IGITIHI, ntp - Network Time Protocol - it autosets the time
[22:14] <TAndriamirado> IGITIHI: IMO it's not ntp's fault. Maybe your root partition couldn't be mounted (or have errors), so a critical system component couldn't run. Try to start in failsafe mode, or, better: boot with a live-cd and verify your filesystems. Beware what you do ;-)
[22:14] <coraxx> tomodachi, aj00200 thanx both :-) .. I was looking for a way to learn how to do it (I can program of course).  I wanted to know if there was like a "scanner template" that I could develop on, so I can add drivers for unsupported scanners ...by maybe reverse-engineering (I have found a beta version of a tool that can monitor the USB traffic in Microsoft Windows) ... if there is a way to...
[22:15] <coraxx> ...utilise that info into a driver, that would be great :-)
[22:15] <zykotick9> IGITIHI, the real stopage "probably" comes right after that and you might not see it?  Would be my guess.  If it's just NTP i would imagine there is a timeout, and after that occured, the system would boot.  Good luck.
[22:15] <NoReGreT> im' getting an error message after login, i have no idea to which process it belongs to, is there any way for that ? the error: http://i.imgur.com/CxIar.png [this was a mounted SDCARD, and ubuntu here is a VM]
[22:16] <TAndriamirado> IGITIHI: before trying to force filesystem verifications, mount the filesystem containing /var/log and see what /var/log/messages and/or /var/log/syslog says
[22:16] <coraxx> aj00200: I have found this in Launchpad --> https://launchpad.net/sane-backends
[22:17] <IGITIHI> TAndriamirado: Thanks, I'll try that right away!
[22:17] <zykotick9> NoReGreT, something in Gnome (sorry i don't know what either, based on your screencap) it trying to mount, what I guess is some removeable media that isn't present.  Best of luck - i personally have no suggestions.
[22:17] <mmyers> Good afternoon.  I have a quick question, if anyone has a few minutes to help me out.
[22:17] <Somelauw> Can parted deal with ext4 filesystems?
[22:18] <zykotick9> Somelauw, i'm SURE
[22:18] <coraxx> aj00200: ...they talk of an API, which sounds VERY interesting.  I just wish there were more details outthere on the web about how to create USB drivers in Linux for hardware that is not supported but you own....so you might be able to get reverse-enginering data from.
[22:18] <Somelauw> And vfat?
[22:18] <TAndriamirado> IGITIHI: BUT the 1st thing to verify is: your BIOS system date/time. It already happened to me that a faulty bios date/time caused the ext4 filesystem to not being able to be mounted, NOR repaired (which 'd be dangerous!).
[22:18] <zykotick9> Somelauw, i'm NOT SURE - but Yes
[22:18] <NoReGreT> zykotick9: yeah i guessed that far, but why is it mounting on startup.. i can't find anything in fstab for taht..
[22:19] <zykotick9> Somelauw, FYI you've named to format types, where are somewhat independent of partitions - which parted is designed to work with.
[22:19] <mmyers> I'm trying to install ubuntu onto a Mac Mini.  One of the previous model, not the brand new ones.  When I boot to the disk, I get the purple ubuntu installer screen, and then I suddenly get booted out to a blank console with a flashing cursor before any user input can occur.  The drive clicks around for a while, then goes silent, and nothing ever happens.
[22:19] <zykotick9> NoReGreT, it's GNOME - not fstab related!
[22:19] <zykotick9> NoReGreT, it's not startup - it's login ;)
[22:19] <NoReGreT> I see
[22:20] <NoReGreT> ah right right :)
[22:20] <mmyers> Anyone have any idea what's going on with that?
[22:20] <aj00200> coraxx: i might be able to help you understand the process to reverse engineer something like this.
[22:21] <coraxx> aj00200: VERY COOL ... I am _ALL_ ears :-D
[22:21] <Brutus-> Hi, i created the directory /media/ZAZA. Then i typed umask 007 && touch /media/ZAZA on terminal. But when i try to enter in that dir the permission is denied. Why?
[22:21] <zeus_> hi all, i still need help. in my ubuntu 11.04 desktop performance are low. Can i install KDE or do you think i'll same results? In your experience is kde faster than gnome ?
[22:21] <aj00200> coraxx: first, you need a way to get the USB data. You mentioned a windows tool, you will need this. I am looking for a way to do this on linux now
[22:22] <tab1293> is there any bash operator that is opposite to the "*"? so instead of listing all mp3 files like "ls *.mp3" list everything except mp3 files
[22:22] <aj00200> coraxx: it appears that wireshark can capture USB data
[22:22] <zeus_> tab1293: ls -l * | grep -v -e ".mp3"
[22:22] <coraxx> aj00200: to tool I was reffered to was this one --> http://www.wingmanteam.com/usbsnoopy/
[22:23] <Brutus-> zeus_, gnome is faster than kde. Are you using Unity?
[22:23] <zykotick9> Brutus-, don't try to use umask like that?  umask determines the default file creation permissions for all system files (i'm not even sure you can use it on a per-folder basis - i believe that requires ACLs) - good luck
[22:24] <zeus_> Brutus-: Unity and gnome seems to be the same (probably unity is a little bit slower)
[22:24] <aj00200> coraxx: so, depending on how much you can understand about the protocol that is used (wireshark should help with that) you can move between windows and linux coding as you go if you don't understand something or doing a lot at once
[22:24] <coraxx> aj00200: yes, but If the data was already in Linux then there wouldn't be a problem ;-) .... to see the device work proberly it will have to go the MS Windows, right ?
[22:24] <Brutus-> zykotick9, i used umask because chmod didn't get effect.
[22:24] <TAndriamirado> tab1293: 'ls --hide *mp3' (man is your friend ;-)))))
[22:24] <aj00200> coraxx: yes, but it always helps to have a cross-platform alternative
[22:24] <Brutus-> zykotick9, What can i do?
[22:24] <coraxx> aj00200: *go the = go through
[22:24] <zeus_> tab1293: you can also use find with "!"
[22:24] <zykotick9> Brutus-, you should describe (to the channel) what you WANT to do.
[22:25] <coraxx> aj00200: does Wireshark run in MS Windows ?
[22:25] <aj00200> coraxx: yeah, it works
[22:25] <mneptok> TAndriamirado: if i ever start a sysadmin magazine for the gay male crowd, it will be called "Man Is Your Friend"
[22:25] <zeus_> TAndriamirado: You're right !
[22:25] <vahni> i see in gnome-settings->appearance which fonts i am using. how can i know to which X-fonts this translates, as i want to use the same fonts as in gnome also in xterm?
[22:25] <coraxx> aj00200: AAAAAHHHH...very cool ...I didn't now that ... then of course that would be the better choice
[22:25] <coraxx> aj00200: *now=know
[22:25] <tab1293> ok thanks zeus_ and TAndriamirado
[22:26] <TAndriamirado> mneptok: ;-)
[22:26] <Brutus-> My problem is that i created a folder but i can't access to the folder. What can i do to access to it?
[22:26] <TAndriamirado> zeus I hope so ;)
[22:26] <aj00200> coraxx: I think you understand the process from there. Of course, you will need to find a way to read/write usb data in your language
[22:26] <zeus_> tab1293: you're welcome
[22:26] <Brutus-> the permission is ok
[22:26] <zykotick9> zeus_, for "grep -v" a big, thank you!  i've always wanted to do that.
[22:26] <TAndriamirado> tab1293: U're welcome
[22:27] <zykotick9> Brutus-, what filesystem are we talking EXT?/FAT/NFTS
[22:28] <Brutus-> zykotick9, nfst
[22:28] <Brutus-> zykotick9, nfts
[22:28] <zykotick9> Brutus-, i can't help - FYI you can't apply POSIX permissions to NTFS
[22:28] <szal> Brutus-: did you mean: ntfs?
[22:28] <Brutus-> szal, ys :)
[22:28] <Brutus-> szal, yes :)
[22:29] <szal> NTFS doesn't know Unix permissions; you need to apply umask, dmask and/or fmask at mount time
[22:30] <szal> !ntfs-3g | Brutus-
[22:30] <Brutus-> szal, I added two rows to /etc/fstab to automount partitions
[22:31] <zykotick9> szal, FYI in your statement you should technically replace your word Unix for POSIX
[22:31] <Brutus-> szal, when i write mount -a i don't get errors but partition aren't mounted
[22:32] <Brutus-> *partitions
[22:32] <Brutus-> *partisions
[22:32] <szal> zykotick9: whatever, I don't think we need to be so nit-picky about this ;)
[22:32] <Brutus-> :D
[22:33] <onicrom> hello peoples, anyone seen a situation with an ldap config where the root user can do username lookups, but non-root users cannot?
[22:33] <LearnUbuntu> zykotick9, thanks. by doing this "sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk openjdk-6-jre openjdk-6-jre-lib icedtea-plugin openjdk-6-jre-zero" the "Translucent" works without any problem.
[22:33] <zykotick9> LearnUbuntu, NICE - that's good to hear actually.  Big thanks for the update :)
[22:33] <usr13> onicrom: What is a username lookup?
[22:34] <onicrom> user13 id
[22:34] <onicrom> or getent passwd
[22:34] <boba__> is it save to resize linux home and root partitons?
[22:34] <zykotick9> LearnUbuntu, if you run into any shortcoming with OpenJDK/JRE you should report them as bugs.  Now more then ever, OpenJDK/JRE is important!
[22:35] <usr13> boba__: I would classify it as a little risky but doable.  Backup your data.
[22:35] <LearnUbuntu> zykotick9, i was tired with Fedora yum openJDK Translucent did not ever worked. But with Ubuntu worked like charm, i am very happy with this.
[22:35] <LearnUbuntu> Thanks again for the direction.
[22:36] <boba__> usr13: does it make a difference if you enlarge them or shrink them... I personally want to enalrage them since I am running out of space...
[22:37] <zykotick9> LearnUbuntu, may I PM you?
[22:37] <LearnUbuntu> Sure zykotick9
[22:37] <usr13> boba__: Shrinking is a little riskier I would say, but only because you may bump the end of the data storage area.
[22:38] <boba__> usr13: thanks
[22:38] <Malang> how we can register our nick for freenode server use
[22:39] <usr13> boba__: I would venture to say that you'll have something well in excess of a 95% success rate.
[22:39] <Brutus-> I followed the ubuntu tutorial to automount partitions at boot but when i digit mount -a to check if everything is ok nothing happens and partitions don't get mounted. What do i wrong?
[22:39] <usr13> boba__: I would call it pretty safe, but any time you start changing the partition tables, there is a risk.
[22:39] <onicrom> usr13, another interesting thing, my own user is both local and in ldap, when i type 'id' i can see the gid numbers but no names, so its querying ldap
[22:41] <boba__> usr13: do you by any chance know how much space virtualbox plus windows xp on it would require? I currently have only 2.7 G on my linux root partition ... virtualbox will be host on my ubuntu... and want to be able to run windows xp in it
[22:41] <zykotick9> !register > Malang
[22:42] <boba__> usr13: on the other hand i have a dual boot with both windows and ubuntu where the windows has 12 G partition that I might delete it and give it to the linux root and home
[22:44] <usr13> boba__: I'm pretty sure 2.7G is not enough.  12G or more will suffice, (i think...)
[22:45] <boba__> usr13: so I should add these 12 G to the root partition right?
[22:46] <boba__> usr13: the home partition is irrelelvant for the virtual box memory requirements
[22:46] <boba__> usr13: ?
[22:46] <benzipperer> Hi: I'm looking for help getting sound out of my laptop's headphone jack. #alsa is not responding to my query. Anyone up to help or have suggestions for other forums for support?
[22:47] <z3ro3x> What's the easiest way to reuse an encrypted home after a fresh install?  I'd rather not overwrite /home during a re-install.
[22:47] <supNow> benzipperer: Do your speakers work?
[22:48] <benzipperer> supNow: thanks. yep. internal speaker is fine. headphone jack used to work fine on 10.04. I did a fresh install of 11.04 and am having trouble with headphones only.
[22:48] <benzipperer> supNow: sorry, yes, the external speaker (connected to the headphone jack) works fine on another machine.
[22:48] <zykotick9> benzipperer, do the headphone not work?  or do they not turn the speakers off?
[22:49] <supNow> benzipperer: generally in a laptop the headphone jack trips the speakers off
[22:49] <benzipperer> zykotick9: when I plug into the headphone jack I get no output to headphones and no output to speakers. So the speaker sound is turned off.
[22:49] <supNow> benzipperer: have you tried other headphones?
[22:50] <mneptok> benzipperer: check the mixer levels and make sure the 'phones jack is not muted or low
[22:50] <zykotick9> benzipperer, if the speakers turn off automatically when you plug the headphones in - you really need to check that the headphone are not muted, or turned down!
[22:50] <linxeh> and check that alsa hasnt done its usual trick of being utterly wacky on anything but the original developers computers
[22:50] <benzipperer> mneptok: that may be the problem. unforutnately I can't find any options in either alsamixer or sound preferences for headphone jack
[22:50] <zykotick9> mneptok, +1
[22:51] <supNow> lmao @ linxeh
[22:51] <linxeh> mneptok: it's likely to be called something else, like "door bell output"
[22:51] <benzipperer> zykotick9: how do I check the muting or levels of the headphone?
[22:51] <linxeh> mneptok: or "subwoofer"
[22:51] <supNow> rofl
[22:51] <mneptok> linxeh: uhhhh .... wha'?
[22:51] <mneptok> linxeh: please try to follow along.
[22:51] <supNow> right click your sound icon and click prefrences
[22:52] <linxeh> oops sorry wrong guy :)
[22:52] <benzipperer> supNow: OK. now what do I look for?
[22:52] <mneptok> linxeh: the person you *want* to address may be labelled "doorbell" or "subwoofer"
[22:53] <linxeh> mneptok: not at all, it was benzipperer. I was suggesting that most distros, ubuntu included, frequently end up with alsa devices misconfigured such that the headphones appear as the "subwoofer" output, or the "doorbell" output.
[22:53] <supNow> benzipperer: http://michaeleberhart.net/linux/ubuntu/8_10/alsa_mixer.png
[22:54] <dirty-harry> hi, is it possible to provide only access to external drives e.g. usb-flash for open/save dialog for kioskmode
[22:55] <Masken{> I'm looking for a command-line program for sending email via SMTP, that doesn't exit until the mail is actually sent.
[22:56] <adamkex> what package is the panel with, "File, Edit, View, etc" which is on the top like a Mac?
[22:56] <melhuishj> Would anyone be willing to help me with an ssh issue?
[22:57] <benzipperer> supNow: thanks. I see the headphones in ALSA mixer.. they are up at 100.
[22:57] <benzipperer> supNow: I also see in sound preferences -> output -> connector, an option for analog headphones.. when I select that the internal speaker turns off. I still get no output to headphones.
[22:59] <benzipperer> supNow: I notice if that I'm listening to the headphones while I plug them into the laptop I get a small, initial burst of sound, but then nothing.
[22:59] <supNow> benzipperer: I wouldn't be able to technically help furthur, but it sounds like hardware (headphones) rather than the alsa mixer being it works when the headphones are unplugged.
[22:59] <benzipperer> supNow: so I guess I'm getting some initial burst of output to headphones but it disappears. kind of weird.
[23:00] <supNow> sometimes the jacks are not compatible
[23:00] <supNow> try outting the jack in partially and see if you get any type of sound in one side
[23:00] <supNow> putting*
[23:01] <michael_p> morning all is there away to remove gnome from ubuntu and install kde4
[23:01] <supNow> try another set of headphones if available
[23:01] <miraenvigado> hello, i've got 2 questions
[23:01] <melhuishj> michael_p, yeah, I did it once, but it wasn't pretty afterwards
[23:01] <benzipperer> supNow: OK, what you say makes sense except that this worked yesterday with 10.04 and now not 11.04. I will try to find another external cable/set of headphones to see if that coincidentally is now incompatible.
[23:02] <melhuishj> miraenvigado, and they would be?
[23:02] <supNow> benzipperer: did you update or clean install?
[23:02] <aj00200> Anyone know where I can get pygobject for Python 3 on Ubuntu 11.04 - i can't use the beta for development yet
[23:03] <miraenvigado> i want to install or open the gnome printer administrator
[23:03] <jrib> aj00200: I would just use easy_install or pip
[23:03] <miraenvigado> in xubuntu 10.04
[23:03] <melhuishj> miraenvigado, does KDE not have a printer manager?
[23:04] <benzipperer> supNow: clean install.
[23:04] <miraenvigado> i dont know
[23:04] <supNow> benzipperer: strange, I experienced sound issues myself after an upgrade but worked fine on same system with clean install
[23:05] <miraenvigado> i tried to find it but i didnt find anything
[23:05] <supNow> benzipperer: I would go back to hardware or wait for someone better knowledged
[23:05] <benzipperer> supNow: well, I really appreciate your help, thanks!
[23:05] <supNow> np! :)
[23:06] <melhuishj> See if you can find this: Application Launcher -> Applications -> System -> Printing
[23:06] <melhuishj> I'm not sure because I don't use KDE though
[23:07] <miraenvigado> i could
[23:07] <miraenvigado> but it isn't  gnome printer admin
[23:07] <tab1293> is it better to have album artwork embedd or just stored as cover.jpg?
[23:08] <OerHeks> miraenvigado, open your browser, localhost:631 for printing manage
[23:08] <deamonboy> t/join#love
[23:08] <aj00200> jrib: ok, I'll see if it is there
[23:08] <miraenvigado> and what else
[23:09] <michael_p> melhuishj what did you do  to uninstall gnome
[23:09] <benzipperer> supNow: one additional note that I'm not sure matters: when I have internal speaker sound, and then plug in headphones, I get no sound (either through headphones or internal speaker) but the alsamixer levels don't visibly change. when I select Analog Headphones in unity sound preferences -> output ->connector , the alsamixer "Front" levels get muted (and still no audible sound anywhere).
[23:11] <melhuishj> Fair enough....ummm, the only sure way I can think of to get the gnome print manager is to install the entire gnome environment...though let me search for a minute and see if I can find the exact program...
[23:12] <miraenvigado> ok thanks
[23:12] <melhuishj> michael_p, if you want to get rid of Gnome entirely, you could do something like apt-get remove gnome*, but I wouldn't recommend that...would installing Kubuntu be an option?
[23:12] <szal> miraenvigado: system-config-printer-gnome
[23:13] <miraenvigado> soory Mr. but it is Xubuntu not Ubuntu
[23:14] <michael_p> maybe but it took hours to instal;l this
 sorry  Mr. but it is Xubuntu not Ubuntu is very different
[23:15] <OerHeks> !xubuntu
[23:15]  * OerHeks was thinking ubuntu problems
[23:15] <luc_> does anybody know how to mount a iso
[23:16] <Monotoko> hey guys....there's a really nice map I've found that tracks day and night across the world live (Powered by Google) I was wondering if it was possible to make it my desktop background and still be live?
 where i can join to a xubuntu channel?
[23:16] <szal> miraenvigado: didn't you say further up that you want the Gnome printer admin GUI?
[23:16] <szal> miraenvigado: that's what I gave you
[23:16] <Monotoko> miraenvigado, #xubuntu
  you're right sorry
[23:17] <basso> anyone running ubuntu on a 27 inch screen?
[23:17] <miraenvigado> thank to all
[23:17] <melhuishj> michael_p, I understand, let me check for a safer solution real quick.
[23:17] <melhuishj> miraenvigado, it might still install, it runs on GTk after all and I believe Xubuntu does too, but I'm not positive
[23:18] <superlou> I'm trying to get filesharing to work between to computers running 11.04.  I can navigate the shared folders in nautilus, but when I try to open them, I get Failed to open "folder_name", Failed to mount windows share.   In the terminal, "smbclient //<IP_ADDRESS>/folder_name --no-pass" returns "tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME".  Anyone else having a similar condition?
[23:19] <Masken{> Found it: http://caspian.dotconf.net/menu/Software/SendEmail/
[23:19] <melhuishj> michael_p, try this: apt-get remove gnome gnome-utils gnome-core gnome-desktop-data gnome-desktop-environment
[23:19] <melhuishj> But before you do, make sure KDE is up and running
[23:19] <melhuishj> Because that probably will remove gnome entirely
[23:20] <melhuishj> On that note, why not just keep them both?
[23:21] <luc_> hi can anybody tell me how to mount a iso file with gmount
[23:21] <miraenvigado> <melhuishj how can i know if kde is running?
[23:23] <melhuishj> You should be able to log out and then select KDE as your DE, if that works then you're ok.  If not, you need to make sure KDE is installed before you remove gnome, otherwise you may be stuck in the lovely world of command line interface only
[23:25] <michael_p> thats ok i need to get use to comands mirgrating from windows
[23:26] <melhuishj> Yeah, but theres a difference between getting used to them and being stuck in them.  If KDE is in fact installed, then you should be ok to execute the above command
[23:27] <AlessonZaire> Michael didn't like Unity? XD
[23:27] <th0r> melhuishj: you do realize that leaving both installed won't hurt anything
[23:27] <nCrazed> AlessonZaire for the first time in my life I wanted to punch the screen as opposed to person next to me
[23:27] <melhuishj> Indeed, and I suggested that earlier, but since he didn't comment on it I assum ehe intends to remove it
[23:28] <AlessonZaire> nCrazed excuse me?
[23:28] <nCrazed> [00:28:42] <AlessonZaire> Michael didn't like Unity? XD
[23:28] <michael_p> be back
[23:28] <AlessonZaire> nCrazed some people do take offense easily and/or for no reason so please feel free to punch your screen as much as you like :)
[23:29] <nCrazed> well, my initial impression was: "this looks nice, what's the fuss about"
[23:29] <nCrazed> then I tried to find window menus on a not maximized window -_-
[23:30] <Godzy> hi everybody
[23:31] <Godzy> i would have a noob question on connecting ubuntu to internet via wifi
[23:31] <Godzy> anyone ?
[23:31] <melhuishj> Yes?
[23:31] <Godzy> ah ok great
[23:31] <michael_p> ok it removed the applications but not the desktop
[23:32] <Godzy> so the question is pretty simple : how do you connect to wifi with ubuntu
[23:32] <Godzy> ?
[23:32] <Godzy> i configured the connection...
[23:32] <Godzy> but nothing happens
[23:32] <melhuishj> michael_p, but you can get into KDE?
[23:33] <melhuishj> Godzy, what do you mean by nothing happens?
[23:33] <yeats> !wifi | Godzy - in case it helps
[23:33] <luc_> hi  does any body know how to mount a pc game iso with gmount
[23:34] <Godzy> thanks for the link
[23:34] <Godzy> nothing happens means : i configured the connexion, with the right adress, right wpa2 key
[23:34] <Godzy> and i'm not connected
[23:35] <michael_p> havent worked that out still reading
[23:35] <Godzy> i don't even know how to ask it to connect (if need be)
[23:35] <StevenR> Godzy: I click the little wireless icon, pick my network from the list, it prompts me for the key and that it.
[23:36] <melhuishj> Well, you might want to get that working...I believe apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will install everything kubuntu has...
[23:36] <melhuishj> Its much easier than trying to install KDE I think
[23:36] <Guest87731> hello how do i install open office in ubuntu 10.10 i downloaded it from the webpage now how do i install it
[23:37] <jrib> Guest87731: don't you already have it...?
[23:37] <BluesKaj> melhuishj, kubuntu-desktop install default apps , not everything kubuntu has ... that's optinal
[23:37] <Guest87731> jrib i went to the home page downloaded the version i want which was is swedish 64 bit debian now how do i install it
[23:38] <Godzy> StevenR: the thing is : i don't have any wireless or even connexion icon on the toolbar
[23:38] <jrib> Guest87731: why aren't you using APT?  Ubuntu has openoffice in its repositories
[23:38] <Guest87731> jrib i have no idea what that is, can you guide me how to get the swedish 64 bit version?
[23:38] <Godzy> to configure it I go in System/ Administration/ Network
[23:38] <jrib> !software | Guest87731
[23:39] <jrib> Guest87731: read about how to use the package management system on that page
[23:39] <melhuishj> BlueKaj, you are right, but it was a lot easier for me to install kubuntu-desktop than regular KDE
[23:39] <jrib> Guest87731: you want to always use ubuntu's repositories whenever possible (like in this case)
[23:39] <Guest87731> jrib i know how to click system manage add programs but not how to find this specific version
[23:39] <yeats> Godzy: you shouldn't have to do that - there should be an icon in the upper right that you can click
[23:40] <jrib> Guest87731: install open office using "add programs".  There are several language packs for open office as well, just find the swedish one
[23:40] <Guest87731> jrib where do i find the add programs is it in the ubuntu software ceter window?
[23:41] <jrib> Guest87731: yes, that
[23:41] <Godzy> yeats: i only have a blutooth icon there
[23:41] <melhuishj> michael_p, I hope you figure it out, I have to go!
[23:41] <Guest87731> jrib in the software center i found open office but it installed an older us version which is not what i want
[23:41] <usr13> Guest87731: There are two places, The Software Centre  and  the Synaptic Package Manager
[23:42] <jrib> Guest87731: Like I said, install the language pack for the language you want
[23:42] <usr13> Guest87731: libreOffice is a replacement for OpenOffice
[23:42] <jrib> Guest87731: do you have your OS language set to swedish or do you want the OS in english and only OpenOffice in swedish?
[23:42] <usr13> Guest87731: I recommend libreOffice
[23:42] <Guest87731> jrib i want os in english which i ahve and open office in swedish
[23:43] <Guest87731> usr13 i found the synaptic manager
[23:43] <usr13> Guest87731: In Snaptic Package Manager you should fine libreoffice
[23:43] <jrib> Guest87731: then check if there is a configuration option for OpenOffice or just start it with a modified LANGUAGE environment variable
[23:43] <usr13> *find not fine
[23:44] <jrib> usr13: is that true for 10.10
[23:44] <Guest87731> usr13 it looks very complicated and i want open opffice
[23:44] <Monotoko> is it possible to reload the desktop background automatically? I have an image that will be updated every 5 minutes, and I would like the desktop to also update
[23:44] <usr13> Guest87731: That's fine, use OpenOffice then.  They are both about the same.
[23:44] <Monotoko> well...reload the desktop background at all...automatically I'd just use a script for XD
[23:44] <Guest87731> jrib i have no idea of what you just wrote , i know how to click and follow instructions but what you just wrote is to me the same as gurken smurken i the fudurken
[23:44] <yeats> Godzy: this is a bug filed for 10.04, but it may be relevant to your issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/577678
[23:45] <usr13> jrib: What is your question?
[23:45] <Ziber> Where is apt.conf? I seem to have to increase Cache-Limit
[23:45] <Monotoko> I'm on 10.10 if that helps
[23:45] <Guest87731> usr13 how do i get swedish open office to my computer then what do i click and how
[23:45] <jrib> usr13: Guest87731 is on 10.10.  In 10.10 is the office suite in the repositories open office or libre office?
[23:45] <yeats> Godzy: sorry - that was a duplicate bug report of this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/589362
[23:46] <usr13> Guest87731: libreOffice should already be installed, (by defualt).
[23:46] <Guest87731> usr13 i want open office in swedish :) how do i get it
[23:46] <usr13> Guest87731: You will have to install the language package
[23:46] <Guest87731> jrib i dont understand what you wrote
[23:46] <Guest87731> usr13 and how exactlly do i do that
[23:47] <Guest87731> usr12 i have downloaded the file open office for linux debian 64 bit from the open office home page and unpacked the file now where do i click to isntall it
[23:47] <Yakooza> Ok guys, I did something really dumb and used my primary partition as swap space when installing Ubuntu. Now my windows partition is unbootable and files inaccessable. How can I recover that partition back?
[23:47] <Guest87731> usr13 i have downloaded the file open office for linux debian 64 bit from the open office home page and unpacked the file now where do i click to isntall it
[23:48] <usr13> Guest87731: In the Synaptic Package Manager you should find openoffice.org-l10n-sv
[23:48] <usr13> Guest87731: Use the search option and you can find anything you want.
[23:48] <Guest87731> usr13 yes i did find that should i click to install openoffice.org-l10n-sv
[23:49] <michael_p> i say over 100 files
[23:49] <Guest87731> usr13 is that the complete open office program or just the swedish lanugage files which by themselves are useless?
[23:49] <usr13> Guest87731: You should install from the package manager.
[23:50] <usr13> Guest87731: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org openoffice.org-l10n-sv
[23:50] <usr13> Guest87731: It is two separate packages.
[23:50] <Guest87731> usr13 and is that the complete open office or just the language files
[23:50] <usr13> Guest87731: Two separate packages.
[23:50] <Guest87731> usr13 ok i see now
[23:51] <Ziber> Upon trying to run 'apt-get update', I receive the following error message (http://paste.ziber.org/63124). I am on 10.04 LTS.
[23:51] <mitchell> Hi I am trying to move my Ubuntu data over to another partition so I can delete my windows partition. Can anyone help?
[23:51] <Guest87731> usr13 but the files which i have downloaded into my downlaoded folder is there a way to dubble click any of that to install open office?
[23:51] <chris215> hey, do you guys think computer janitor is useful?
[23:52] <usr13> Ziber: df  | pastebinit
[23:52] <yeats> Ziber: how's your overall disk space?
[23:52] <Ziber> usr13, yeats: 9.4G available
[23:52] <mitchell> I have plenty of room if that is what you are asking
[23:52] <Ziber> usr13, yeats: RAM is a bit low, though.
[23:52] <yeats> mitchell: that is what I was asking
[23:53] <usr13> Ziber: df | pastebinit   #Paste resulting URL here
[23:53] <Guest87731> usr13 but the files which i have downloaded into my downlaoded folder is there a way to dubble click any of that to install open office?
[23:53] <mitchell> Yes. Is there something I need to download or what?
[23:53] <Ziber> usr13: Alright, fine. http://pastebin.com/r0a4qgnR
[23:53] <yeats> mitchell: this thread looks relevant: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/dynamic-mmap-out-of-room-160966/
[23:54] <usr13> Guest87731: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org openoffice.org-l10n-sv
[23:54] <usr13> Guest87731:    .... and hit enter
[23:54] <Guest87731> usr13 i tried that got an error message
[23:55] <usr13> Guest87731: What error message?  (Show us) (If it's more than one line use pastebin)
[23:55] <usr13> !pastebin | Guest87731
[23:55] <Ziber> usr13: Any ideas?
[23:56] <yeats> mitchell: sorry - that was meant for Ziber
[23:56] <yeats> Ziber: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/dynamic-mmap-out-of-room-160966/
[23:56] <Dice-Man> hello
[23:56] <Guest87731> usr13 http://paste.ubuntu.com/683949/
[23:56] <mitchell> I was looking at it and it wan`t my problem lol
[23:56] <Ziber> yeats: okay, lets see here
[23:56] <yeats> :-)
[23:56] <Dice-Man> how to make my ssh server availaible over the internet ?
[23:56] <jrib> !ssh | Dice-Man
[23:56] <Dice-Man> jrib: thanks a lot but i already saw these pages
[23:57] <jrib> Dice-Man: what is your question?
[23:57] <agoole22> hi, sometimes my ubuntu stops registering click actions from my touchpad
[23:57] <agoole22> how can I look into this ?
[23:57] <Pici> Dice-Man: just forward port 22 from your router to the server running ssh.
[23:57] <Dice-Man> Pici: how to do this ?
[23:57] <Dice-Man> Pici: i don't really grasp what port forwarding is, i think i need some scheme
[23:57] <Guest87731> usr13 i closed synaptic manage and then the code worked
[23:58] <Pici> Dice-Man: Its not really within the scope of this channel, but you may want to take a look at http://portforward.com
[23:58] <mitchell> Any ideas on how to copy over my Ubuntu data to a new partition without re-installing?
[23:58] <Guest87731> usr13 i dont see anything new in my menu and the old open office is still in english and the isntallationw as very fast i dont think it worked
[23:59] <Ziber> yeats: I put that value in, and yet the error still exists. And doesnt seem to recognize that I've updated it.
[23:59] <usr13> !movehome |mitchell
[23:59] <Guest87731> usr13 it didnt work i will try something else elsewhere
[23:59] <mitchell> Thank you ubottu, i will look into it