[01:03] <NixNewb> and does anyone know a website with sudo commands handy?
[01:04] <axisys> NixNewb: google sudo and the first link and the manual there or man sudo
[01:04] <topyli> marseillai: in the future, never edit the sudoers file directly. use visudo, because it checks for the file's sanity before saving it
[01:04] <marseillai> axisys: if  i launch a live cd and mount my partition how can i change the file ?
[01:04] <thegladiator> can someone help me with wine ?
[01:04] <NixNewb> thx again.
[01:04] <thegladiator> I have no clue about wine
[01:04] <axisys> marseillai: with live cd u r root
[01:04] <p0windah> marseillai: just mount the drive and change it back
[01:04] <NixNewb> btw, can u edit the script on irc?  like load own scripts and/or alias cmds?
[01:04] <marseillai> oki i'll do
[01:05] <marseillai> i come back after to tell you if it works...
[01:05] <axisys> NixNewb: i use irrsi and there u run this /help load
[01:05] <jessy> is it possible to use XGL/Compiz with still having gnome metacity theme ? (window borders)
[01:05] <axisys> NixNewb: it will give u some examples
[01:06] <p0windah> if you get it working, tell me how jessy
[01:06] <NixNewb> ok.
[01:06] <jessy> p0windah, now i'm under breezy and every works fine, so now i think everything is possible :)
[01:08] <p0windah> you mean you have compviz/xgl working already ?
[01:09] <memmy> hi
[01:09] <memmy> where in dapper is the hotplug firmware directory? i tried setting my ivtv firmware in /lib/firmware and /lib/firmrware/`uname -`/ but that din't work
[01:10] <we2by_> hello
[01:10] <we2by_> what app can I use to do math on Ubuntu?
[01:10] <we2by_> like solving differentiaal eq and plotting 3d things etc
[01:10] <argon> openoffice math...
[01:10] <argon> I guess
[01:12] <robbie_> libwine.so.1 is in /usr/local/lib, which is apparently not in my library search path because I got wine: error while loading shared libraries: libwine.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:12] <robbie_> .... how do I add it? I cant find ld.so.conf
[01:15] <axisys> robbie_: have u checked ldconfig?
[01:15] <robbie_> ldconfig runs with no output
[01:16] <peej> can anyone else reproduce a bug I am having with abiword in breezy? start abiword, insert->symbol->cursor   <barf>   ?
[01:17] <jessy> is there an application to make a video of what i get on my screen ?
[01:17] <axisys> robbie_: man ldconfig
[01:19] <narzy> I'm trying to install an HP Color LaserJet 1500 in ubuntu, anyone give me some direction as to where to go for a howto?
[01:20] <nandemonai> hi ppl
[01:20] <curley_sue> HELP something has changed in my desktop configuration - I no longer have my mounted dev (NFTS and FAT partitions + CDROM) nxt to Computer (under places menu), have to run 'sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart' in order to restore them, why is that and what can be done? (didn manage through google)
[01:21] <curley_sue> narzy : have u tried under System menu  "Printers"?
[01:21] <eeaaxx> anybody knows how can i stop boot services?
[01:21] <narzy> yeah, and I've gone through and defined everything but it doesn't print.
[01:22] <nandemonai> I wondering if anyone knows what I should set in the monitor section of xorg for a standard TV via rca/composite out.. I have nvidia installed have run settings but nothing of TV (in nvidia-settings). I have output but as the monitor is setup as 'Default Monitor' The vert refresh is screwy
[01:22] <curley_sue> narzy: sorry cant really help (maybe you should try cups...)
[01:22] <nandemonai> Excuse the Speed typing ;)
[01:24] <lupz> hello
[01:24] <lupz> how i can i start network interfaces on boot ?
[01:25] <peej> lupz: should start automatically for a normal network. else there is a gui tool in adminstration somewhere so you can set your gateway etc
[01:26] <peej> can anyone else reproduce a bug I am having with abiword in breezy? start abiword, insert->symbol->cursor   <barf>   ?
[01:26] <peej> doesn't anyone have abiword?
[01:26] <lupz> peej: i'm on dhcp but until i don't do ---> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:26] <lupz> peej: it doesn't start
[01:27] <curley_sue> peej: I have abiword - explain again...
[01:27] <curley_sue> HELP something has changed in my desktop configuration - I no longer have my mounted dev (NFTS and FAT partitions + CDROM) nxt to Computer (under places menu), have to run 'sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart' in order to restore them, why is that and what can be done? (didn manage through google)
[01:27] <peej> curley_sue : do you have breezy? If so start abiword. go to insert menu. choose symbol. choose cursor. Does it work fine ?
[01:29] <peej> lupz : it'll be under /etc/init.d/networking. Or you can have it run at an opportune time, eg when you get into x , but putting it into .xsession.
[01:31] <curley_sue> peej: using BREEZY, cursor adds nothing for me. symbols and some others work fine
[01:31] <eeaaxx> anbody knows how can i boot without X?
[01:31] <Seveas> eeaaxx, permanently or just once?
[01:31] <peej> lupz: oooh, wait a minute - you may wanna check /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/wireless-tools for its behaviour
[01:32] <eeaaxx> Seveas, just once
[01:32] <peej> curley_sue: ok thanks. It hangs on my system.
[01:32] <NixNewb> Everything is comming along great..  except now i would like to be able to access files on the other computer on the network..  i cant google anything good on that.
[01:32] <Seveas> eeaaxx, use the 'recovery mode' option
[01:32] <Seveas> in the boot menu
[01:32] <peej> curley_sue : probably 'cos gnome isn't there on my box.
[01:32] <lupz> peej: what ??
[01:32] <eeaaxx> Seveas, ok
[01:32] <eeaaxx> Seveas, how about permanent
[01:33] <curley_sue> peej:  your welcome... (i actually dont know what cursor is supposed to do)
[01:33] <kevor> hwo can i see what version i'm running?
[01:33] <peej> lupz: if you are using wireless that is.
[01:33] <Seveas> eeaaxx, sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[01:33] <lupz> peej: i use a standard if
[01:33] <peej> curley_sue : hey, me neither. Cos it hangs ;-) . Actually it's probably a font selection.
[01:34] <eeaaxx> Seveas, like in fc4, just set the /etc/inittab to runnable 3, is there a way how can i changed in the /etc/inittab?
[01:34] <curley_sue> peej: why wont u use symbol?!
[01:34] <Seveas> eeaaxx, runlevels 2 through 5 are the same on Ubuntu
[01:34] <lupz> i should have a rc script to start networking ?
[01:34] <IdleOne> kevor: ls_release -d I believe
[01:34] <eeaaxx> Seveas, ok
[01:34] <Seveas> lupz, /etc/init.d/networking
[01:35] <curley_sue> HELP - cant configure a pdf printer + desktop problem (two different things...)
[01:35] <peej> lupz: does dmesg say anything interesting about network behaviour during boot? Just wondering why it would work when you tell it to do its stuff the second time (the first time it is told is during boot).
[01:35] <eeaaxx> Seveas, runlevels 2 - 5 are all X?
[01:35] <coffe2> hi all, somebody know wich pid is using each window? my gnome doesnt load!
[01:35] <kevor> IdleOne: lsb_release -d
[01:35] <IdleOne> there you go
[01:35] <IdleOne> ()
[01:35] <Seveas> eeaaxx, yup
[01:35] <lupz> Seveas: should it be linked in the rc[0-6] .d dirs ?
[01:35] <robbie_> whats the package for compatibility with gtk 1.2?
[01:35] <kevor> thanks
[01:36] <Seveas> lupz, man update-rc.d
[01:36] <lupz> peej: where i look for it ?
[01:36] <eeaaxx> Seveas, ok
[01:36] <lupz> Seveas: i know, but should it be linked there or not ?
[01:36] <curley_sue> coffe2: try "ps -ejH |less" to find out pid's
[01:36] <Seveas> lupz, iirc just rcS.d for this one
[01:36] <coffe2> okz
[01:36] <lupz> Seveas: i know the infamous update-rc.d :D
[01:36] <lupz> Seveas: thanks :)
[01:37] <peej> lupz : for dmesg (which tells you boot messages ) just type dmesg in xterm, see what it says about networking
[01:37] <IdleOne> kevor:  -a option will give release number and a little more info
[01:37] <Seveas> /etc/rc0.d/S35networking
[01:37] <Seveas> /etc/rc6.d/S35networking
[01:37] <Seveas> /etc/rcS.d/S40networking
[01:37] <curley_sue> coffe2: have you tried to simply restart GNOME?
[01:37] <Seveas> ^-- lupz
[01:37] <curley_sue> HELP - cant configure a pdf printer + desktop problem (two different things...)
[01:38] <kevor> IdleOne: thanks ,that's what i needed
[01:38] <lupz> Seveas: i'm on dapper and i've it only on rcS
[01:38] <peej> lupz: before you touch /etc/init.d/networking, make a copy of it, then maybe use ifconfig incantation instead of ifup incantation. ifup has been screwy for me in the past.
[01:38] <IdleOne> kevor:  np
[01:38] <lupz> Seveas: anyway i don't understand do you start ifs on reboot and halt :D
[01:38] <Goshawk> what about help on dapper? (it not really an helping request, it's a mistake about the broadcom wireless cards support)
[01:38] <lupz> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2006-02-19 18:19 /etc/rc0.d/S35networking -> ../init.d/networking
[01:38] <lupz> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2006-02-19 18:19 /etc/rc6.d/S35networking -> ../init.d/networking
[01:38] <lupz> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2006-02-19 18:19 /etc/rcS.d/S50networking -> ../init.d/networking
[01:39] <Seveas> Goshawk, #ubuntu+1 is dedicated to dapper
[01:39] <Seveas> lupz, read the script
[01:39] <jllgnome> is there any helper around?
[01:39] <peej> lupz: or you can just let it be, and run the /etc/init.d/networking up command via .xsession file if you always go into x before doing anything.
[01:39] <lupz> peej: well not..
[01:39] <Goshawk> thanks Seveas
[01:39] <idefix_> can you simply execute exe-files made for windows in linux?
[01:40] <idefix_> I hope my question isn't stupid
[01:40] <peej> lupz?
[01:40] <lupz> i think that when i log in in x the network (priority 50) isn't standard
[01:40] <lupz> s/standard/started
[01:40] <idefix_> you can't, can you?
[01:40] <IdleOne> idefix_:  no stupid questions and you need to run wine or cedga
[01:40] <coffe2> 10 points for idefix, auto-response
[01:40] <lupz> peej: i don't log in everytime
[01:40] <peej> lupz: howabout pasting your dmesg?
[01:40] <lupz> ok
[01:40] <IdleOne> !tell idefix_  about wine
[01:40] <lupz> wait
[01:40] <peej> lupz: in pastebin!
[01:41] <lupz> eheheh
[01:41] <lupz> i supposed so :D
[01:41] <NixNewb> tell me about wine too
[01:41] <NixNewb> ...please.
[01:41] <IdleOne> !wine
[01:41] <NixNewb> !tell nixnewb about wine
[01:42] <IdleOne> idefix_:  I meant there are no stupid questions :-)
[01:42] <lupz> http://rafb.net/paste/results/iRvUaC52.html
[01:42] <peej> IdleOne: is this a stupid question?
[01:43] <hit> how to add chinese language to acroreader?
[01:43] <IdleOne> peej:  only if you dont understand it :P
[01:43] <curley_sue> H E L P - cant configure a pdf printer + a desktop problem (two different things...)
[01:43] <IdleOne> curley_sue:  pick one problem and give more specific info on the problem
[01:45] <pl_ice> hi :)
[01:45] <curley_sue> IdleOne: can configure a PDF printer - I tried through System -> Administration -> Printers (BREEZY GNOME) and I get no result uppon printing...
[01:45] <jllgnome> can someone help me?
[01:46] <jllgnome> i have problems with booting
[01:46] <NixNewb> how do i get my ip and subnet info?
[01:46] <IdleOne> NixNewb:  ifconfig in terminal
[01:46] <peej> lupz: looks to me like eth0 starts up fine. Check by running /sbin/ifconfig - if you get something there, your card is up.
[01:46] <NixNewb> thx.
[01:47] <idefix_> when you make some executable file for linux does it have extension jnlp?
[01:47] <peej> lupz: then it may be a config problem, which the net restart fixes.
[01:47] <curley_sue> IdleOne: same for a PS printer - result is achieved only if I use print to file option
[01:47] <lupz> peej: the problem is actually that seems that resolv.conf doesn't get correctly updated
[01:47] <jllgnome> please? :(
[01:47] <IdleOne> jllgnome:  state what problem you are having and someone will try to help if they can
[01:47] <idefix_> ubotu doesn't know it!
[01:47] <ubotu> idefix_: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:48] <jllgnome> okay, I updated the system with automatic updater
[01:48] <pl_ice> u guys seen some free ssh accounts ? :)
[01:48] <curley_sue> IdleOne: the main problem is that I can never get anything to print (not even to  a "real" printer)
[01:48] <jllgnome> and after that, the machinestarts only to grub console
[01:48] <peej> lupz: eh? can you ping a numbered ip address fine after boot, before netrestart?
[01:48] <IdleOne> !printing
[01:48] <ubotu> printing is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[01:48] <IdleOne> try that link curley_sue
[01:48] <jllgnome> after a bit searching, I got it to load kernel, and start the boot
[01:49] <lupz> peej: i don't remember but i think so
[01:49] <jllgnome> but it ends to some problem rgarding evms
[01:49] <peej> lupz: check that. If that is true, then resolv.conf needs a fix. Did you fiddle around with it earlier?
[01:49] <jllgnome> and drops to busyBox
[01:49] <lupz> peej: no i haven't touched it
[01:49] <pl_ice> jllgnome can u copy the error message into pastebin somehow? ...
[01:49] <lupz> wait i reboot so i can tell
[01:50] <jllgnome> pl_ice, what do you mean?
[01:50] <jllgnome> I'm not currently at my computer, since it's about useless
[01:50] <fishdish> hi guys
[01:50] <fishdish> i have a problem with grub
[01:50] <jllgnome> but, the error to whih it stops comes here
[01:50] <pl_ice> jllgnome we need to know exactly what it says bout this error
[01:50] <curley_sue> IdleOne, ubotu : tried them both b4...
[01:51] <fishdish> i'm trying to install a linux on compaq evo
[01:51] <pl_ice> search in logs ...
[01:51] <fishdish> ok, ubuntu "installs" correctly
[01:51] <jllgnome>  /scripts/local-top/evms: 31: /sbin/evems_activate: not found
[01:51] <jllgnome> Done.
[01:51] <jllgnome> ALERT! does not exist. Dropping to a shell
[01:51] <fishdish> but, when after installation i restart, the computer wouldn't start GRUB at all
[01:51] <IdleOne> curley_sue: best i can do sorry. I havent configured a printer yet
[01:51] <peej> jllgnome: the simplest way to fix it would be to remove the new kernel it was install, fall back to the old one.
[01:51] <jllgnome> and then it goes to busyBox
[01:51] <fishdish> i waited for half an hour for GRUB to start
[01:52] <fishdish> and rebooting does not help
[01:52] <fishdish> what is the problem?
[01:52] <curley_sue> ubotu: any idea?
[01:52] <ubotu> Yeah, I have an idea!  And keep the FBI off my back!
[01:52] <IdleOne> lmao
[01:52] <peej> jllgnome: so in busybox, you'd um...argh. I think you'd be best of using the live cd to ulp....can't think of a quick fix, though I know the issue here.
[01:52] <pl_ice> jllgnome search on google for the begining line, comes out that there is a buq
[01:52] <curley_sue> IdleOne: 2nd - something has changed in my desktop configuration - I no longer have my mounted dev (NFTS and FAT partitions + CDROM) nxt to Computer (under places menu), have to run 'sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart' in order to restore them, why is that and what can be done? (didn manage through google)
[01:53] <jllgnome> I checked with the grub console (since I have to manually load kernel etc) there's two versions of the kernel, something-9-389 and something-10-386
[01:53] <jllgnome> and I've loaded the 9
[01:53] <co-smuda> aloW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:53] <peej> jllgnome : basically, you'd have to fix grub.lst probably to point to old kernel.
[01:53] <jllgnome> how do I do that?
[01:54] <peej> jllgnome: dunno. I'm not grub guy, so I'll probably mess it up by guessing remotely like this. Ask someone who knnows.
[01:54] <jllgnome> :)
[01:55] <IdleOne> !ntfs
[01:55] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:55] <IdleOne> !tell curley_sue  about ntfs
[01:55] <pl_ice> jllgnome not sure if ubuntu leaves old kernel behind ... ;)
[01:55] <hit> how to make acroreader support chinese?
[01:55] <peej> jllgnome : yeah, better check that
[01:55] <jllgnome> pl_ice, what do you mean with beginnig line and searching that on google? what should I search, the error or what?
[01:56] <irv10tz> hey need help here.. why does the sound doesn't work when i play a video on the net... im sure it is unmuted...................
[01:56] <pl_ice> jllgnome there are buq reports on this on ubuntu and debian, i'm just reading them now
[01:56] <hatake_kakashi> I think ubuntu does leave old kernel behind, but if you think you are fine without it, I think you can remove it
[01:56] <pl_ice> just do a search on google
[01:56] <jllgnome> pl_ice, and as I said, there's two versions of the kernel file or something, something-9 and something-10
[01:56] <peej> jllgnome : maybe best to ask a local linux geek to help fix it - feed him lots of pizza, he'll have it fixed within 5 mins.
[01:57] <IdleOne> lol peej
[01:57] <irv10tz> hey need help here.. why does the sound doesn't work when i play a video on the net... im sure it is unmuted...................
[01:57] <IdleOne> and coffee
[01:57] <pl_ice> jllgnome paste the grub to pastebin( hope u know what pastebin is)
[01:57] <peej> IdleOne : it's true! Will work for pizza!
[01:57] <jllgnome> bad thing is, I'm the local linux geek... none o my freds has it :P
[01:57] <defrysk> !xgl
[01:57] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[01:57] <jllgnome> pl_ice, I don't :(
[01:57] <hatake_kakashi> jllgnome: you're not the only one :)
[01:57] <pl_ice> !pastebin
[01:57] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[01:57] <irv10tz> hey need help here.. why does the sound doesn't work when i play a video on the net... im sure it is unmuted...................
[01:57] <peej> jllgnome: well, if you come through this ordeal, and it doesn't killyou, you'll be stronger. Oh yes.
[01:58] <IdleOne> irv10tz:  stop repeating and wait a couple minutes someone may help
[01:58] <jllgnome> main prblem is that I'm not at my computer right now, although I think I have all the necessary info writen on paper
[01:59] <IdleOne> jllgnome:  did the install fiinish properly?
[01:59] <henk> hi i'm looking for a good graphical newsreader that supports threaded display
[01:59] <peej> henk: doesn't pan do that?
[01:59] <IdleOne> mahangu__:  liked your article on Shuttleworth ()
[01:59] <jllgnome> IdleOne, yes, I've been using Ubuntu about hafa year now
[02:00] <jllgnome> half a year
[02:00] <jllgnome> man this keyboard sucks
[02:00] <mahangu__> IdleOne, let's take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:00] <IdleOne> mahangu__:  thats all I was going to say on it
[02:00] <idefix_> how can you ever trust linux? when you send messages from some website it indicates read/unread, but for instance the message "user has closed the dialog window" often isn't true :(
[02:00] <pl_ice> jllgnome if u have 2 krenels they will jump out on the grub and u can move arrow between, if not press i think e
[02:01] <jllgnome> pl_ice, no
[02:03] <pl_ice> jllgnome well i just updated kernel as well and i got revovery kernel, standard and an old one in the grub menu.lst
[02:03] <henk> idefix_, what?
[02:03] <idefix_> in GAIM, when the message "user has closed the dialog window" appears often the user hasn't done anything, at least they all say so
[02:03] <jllgnome> pl_ice, uhm.. what do you mean?
[02:04] <trackium> hi
[02:04] <djp> how do i get an icon to display a still from the movie/video? what i mean is, i have several .avi, .ogm files that when i open nautlius, create still images. however one file has just stayed as a normal .avi icon. i know it can generate a still image, as it has done in the past. any ideas how i get it to 'sort itself out'? ;)
[02:04] <idefix_> henk!
[02:04] <idefix_> henk?
[02:05] <henk> idefix_, hmm i think the trust issue you're dealing with is with the people in your contact list not with linux
[02:05] <foxpaul> does anyone have an idea why exim isn't sending its mail out immediately?
[02:05] <foxpaul> i can only send it it i run exim -qf
[02:06] <IdleOne> foxpaul:  I dont use exim but Im guessing its a setting you need to change for it to send immediately
[02:06] <jllgnome> here's the link to pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9169
[02:06] <henk> foxpaul, do you have an exim deamon running ? try ps waux|grep exim ... you should have a -bd running
[02:07] <trackium> sorry, i wonder if anyone has experienced that : when i make an "export" in a soft terminal window, this one is save, but only in this terminal, and only during the terminal session.When I close the terminal, the environnement variable vanishes !
[02:07] <foxpaul> henk,  i have exim running -db q30m
[02:07] <curley_sue> IdleOne: in gnome2 (BREEZY) there a "places" menu where used to appear all my mounted dev (NTFS,FAT32,CDROM). it does not any longer
[02:08] <Lorvija> hey.. where's the installation guide for ubuntu? (:
[02:08] <IdleOne> !install
[02:08] <ubotu> rumour has it, install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[02:08] <henk> foxpaul, hmm do the logs say anything about it ? have you tried other recipients on other domains ?
[02:08] <Lorvija> IdleOne ty
[02:09] <henk> trackium, you may want to use .bash_profile
[02:09] <jllgnome> pl_ice, the pastebin link's here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9169
[02:09] <jllgnome> sorry, here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9170
[02:09] <trackium> henk, what is this file ?
[02:10] <cas> curley_sue, is it possible you deleted the "Menu bar" from your panel?
[02:10] <trackium> henk, and where ?
[02:10] <RaIcHu> Hullow the people !
[02:10] <henk> trackium, it allows you to run stuff before bash is executed. so this is a good place to set variables, aliasses etc you want each time you log in
[02:10] <foxpaul> henk, each message has something like:  no immediate delivery: load average 9.01
[02:10] <trackium> henk, cool thanks
[02:11] <henk> trackium, try ~/.bash_profile    (~ refers to your homedir)
[02:11] <foxpaul> in the logs
[02:11] <NixNewb> i have a partition that is ntfs on this drive as well. how do i access it?  do i need to terminal     mount?
[02:11] <_jason> henk: I don't think ~/.bash_profile gets sourced when you log into gnome, at least it didn't for me.  I had to source it in ~/.gnomerc
[02:11] <djp> anyone know how to regenerate icons in nautilus?
[02:11] <henk> foxpaul, maybe exim is wwaiting for your system to be less busy ?
[02:11] <foxpaul> henk, shouldn't be under any load really
[02:11] <henk> _jason, i thought he specificaly mentioned a terminal session
[02:12] <pl_ice> jllgnome is that the extract from /boot/grub/menu.lst doesnt look like ...
[02:12] <henk> foxpaul, what does 'uptime' tell you ?
[02:12] <curley_sue> cas: i don't think so - how do I check that? (I have Places, Application and System in my panel)
[02:12] <jllgnome> no it's not, but I can't access that file in question :(
[02:12] <_jason> henk: ah ok, just joined.  sorry for the confusion
[02:12] <trackium> henk, i guess a reboot is needed of course
[02:12] <henk> _jason, sure no problem
[02:12] <foxpaul> henk,   1:12pm  up 22 days 20:10,  11 users,  load average: 9.95, 9.44, 7.84
[02:13] <henk> trackium, no you just need to open a new terminal
[02:13] <jllgnome> pl_ice, I didn't understand that that was what you ased for
[02:13] <cas> curley_sue, then I misunderstooth you, I thought the whole Places button was gone. The Places->Computer should show a windows with all your mounted devices
[02:13] <Lorvija> hey.. I'm gonna install ubuntu as dualboot on this computer on another disk than windows is.. however I did it once with gentoo and succeeded to trash my windows installation ( couldnt boot)... is ubuntu install wise enough not to fuck up the boot so that i can boot into both OS's?
[02:13] <henk> trackium, a reboot is not needed much in linux, only for some kernel issues or in the very unlikely event of an unstable system
[02:14] <djp> how do i get nautilus to regenrate an icon image? one of my .avi files has failed to create a still image as an icon for itself and still displays the bog standard .avi icon.
[02:14] <pl_ice> jllgnome can u provide the file that its in : /boot/grub/menu.lst as this what have u pasted looks like its missing info
[02:15] <trackium> henk, ok thx... but the export command has no utility ?
[02:15] <jllgnome> pl_ice, well how can I access it from either the busybox or from the grub console? I don't have any boot disks, so my own computer is pretty much useless right now
[02:15] <henk> trackium, i do not understand
[02:15] <curley_sue> cas: exactly my point! it does not show them as it used to. I can run 'sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart' which restores them but I dont really know what went wrong and I guess this is not the way to fix that!
[02:16] <pl_ice> jllgnome have u tried in gnome accessing the main menu? u can mock around there, not sure but i think u can mount hdd from ur busybox
[02:17] <trackium> henk, if an export can only register a variable for a terminal session, nobody will use it ?
[02:17] <jllgnome> pl_ice,  agh, the problem is that the machine does not finish the boot, so I can't get to gnome either.if I could, there'd be no problem
[02:17] <curley_sue> Lorvija: it worked for me - first installed XP in first partition then insatlled Ubuntu Breezy
[02:17] <NixNewb> how do i access my other hardrive that is ntfs?
[02:17] <jllgnome> pl_ice, I'm not at my own computer right now
[02:17] <ubtest> i want to test gnopernicus on the ubuntu live cd. can anyone help me?
[02:18] <Lorvija> curley_sue okay (: any extra steps?
[02:18] <cas> curley_sue, hmm try reinstalling dbus, also take a look if it really start on boot
[02:18] <curley_sue> Lorvija: (I actually had another "neutral" FAT32 partition b4 installing ubuntu
[02:19] <curley_sue> cas: how is that done? I tried to figure out what dbus was doing and I didn really understand... (newbie...)
[02:19] <pl_ice> jllgnome just try when u get home etc, mock around with grub menu
[02:19] <curley_sue> Lorvija: How can I help?
[02:19] <Lorvija> curley_sue just asking beforehand.. (: gonna buy new disk & install it then
[02:19] <pl_ice> guys, anyone uses lm sensors to get the temp. etc of motherboard?
[02:19] <jllgnome> pl_ice, how do I do that, since there's no visible menu anywhere?
[02:20] <Lorvija> installed it to sisters laptop couple months ago... and ubuntu definately seems attracting..
[02:20] <Lorvija> especially xubuntu (:
[02:20] <cas> curley_sue, `sudo apt-get install --reinstall dbus`
[02:20] <pl_ice> jllgnome just hit esc button, it should say loading grub... smoething like that
[02:21] <action09> hi , i'm searching actually in forums but anybody knows if there's a quick way to associate .csv files to open with oocalc2  please ?
[02:21] <action09> it's be nice becaus i risk to become mentally insane
[02:21] <jllgnome> pl_ice, okay, I'll try that... I'm pretty tired of trying to get it work, so I'll propably reinstall the whole thing if I can't get it to work :P
[02:21] <curley_sue> Lorvija: great! I didn't really understand what would u like to know...
[02:21] <trackium> henk, the solution doesn't work... even when i set my variable in bash_profile, there are not accessible in any terminal !
[02:22] <jllgnome> pl_ice, thanks for helping :)
[02:22] <pl_ice> jllgnome don't worry if u have to re-install ;) i'm just trying to install unix for xxth time :P
[02:22] <trackium> henk, they are not... sorry
[02:22] <B_166-ER-X> configure: error: *** Requested 'libglade-2.0 >= 2.4.0' but version of Libglade is 2.0.0
[02:22] <Lorvija> curley_sue just wanted to make sure if the installer is sensible(can detect windows etc..) (:
[02:22] <curley_sue> cas: thanx, I try that. what dbus does?
[02:22] <B_166-ER-X> they want a newer version ???
[02:22] <mandavi> hi, how can i empty the apt-get cache?
[02:23] <Lorvija> curley_sue as last time it did take LONG time to fix things.. so i'd like to do it right in the first place :P
[02:23] <jllgnome> pl_ice, I'm not too worried, only thing that bugs me is the all the files I havent backed up :P
[02:23] <_jason> mandavi: sudo apt-get clean
[02:23] <cas> curley_sue, it's a method for packages to talk to each other.
[02:23] <mandavi> _jason: thanks
[02:23] <pl_ice> jllgnome run a liveCD, eg knoppix , then u can back it up,no probs with that
[02:23] <cas> curley_sue, I don't know exactly what your problem is with it, but you need it for sure
[02:24] <pl_ice> B_166-ER-X yeh, they want newer libglade
[02:24] <cas> curley_sue, maybe somehting with gnome->hal communications
[02:26] <curley_sue> Lorvija: well, like I said - I had a clean installation of XP after I devided my HD to 3 partitions (1st for XP; 2sd as FAT32 - a neutral one since I don't want windows to "see" linux and I don't want linux to mess with the XP; and 3rd an untouched partition for ubuntu)
[02:26] <niedziel> elo
[02:26] <help-me-pls> i need some help guys
[02:26] <niedziel> suck my dick
[02:26] <niedziel> and kiss my ass
[02:26] <curley_sue> Lorvija: first install XP, then ubuntu (it worked fine for me both with Breezy and Hoary)
[02:26] <niedziel> ;d
[02:26] <Lorvija> curley_sue okay, i guess it's a bit easier for me as i'll have whole hd for ubuntu
[02:27] <Lorvija> curley_sue thanks for help =)
[02:27] <pl_ice> niedziel zamknij sie
[02:27] <help-me-pls> i was doing my thing in ubuntu,, then suddenly everything stoped working.. i had to press on power button... when i then tryed to boot up.. i got bootdisk faliur..
[02:28] <trackium> henk, are U here ?
[02:28] <help-me-pls> i dont know what to to
[02:28] <help-me-pls> *do
[02:28] <curley_sue> Lorvija: no problem!
[02:28] <help-me-pls> i checked with fdsik.. everything looks ok
[02:29] <help-me-pls> but for some reasom.. i get bootdisk faliure
[02:29] <curley_sue> Lorvija: my consilation is to mount the XP partition as read only (that's what I have the fat for...)
[02:29] <help-me-pls> when i try to boot up
[02:29] <cas> help-me-pls, that sounds serious. You can boot with a bootdisk i presume?
[02:29] <help-me-pls> cas im using the live cd now
[02:30] <hatake_kakashi> help-me-pls: where did it stop at?
[02:30] <cas> help-me-pls, but your grub bootmanager isn't starting on boot?
[02:30] <samitheberber> Hi! Is that normal, when my ubuntu installation freeze in base system installation with 65% (configurating lvm2) ?
[02:30] <Lorvija> curley_sue yep, though i'll propably use ubuntu just to play with it etc so i propably wont even mount my windows partitions.. (:
[02:30] <help-me-pls> cas correct
[02:30] <help-me-pls> hatake_kakashi,  when i was listning to music
[02:30] <pl_ice> samitheberber no ...my didn't
[02:30] <wvelez> Hi...Im running ubuntu 5.10...vmware workstation 5 (windowsxp)...how can I get files into the xp vmware virtual machine? thanks
[02:30] <AnsiC> hello
[02:30] <hatake_kakashi> help-me-pls: I mean on the screen, how can you listen music whilst installing?
[02:31] <samitheberber> pl_ice: how long takes it, because I think it freezes :S
[02:31] <AnsiC> for use bluetooth and send file from pc to my telefon
[02:31] <trackium> Is there anyone who can explain me how to use the "export" comand ???
[02:31] <AnsiC> i need install more?
[02:31] <help-me-pls> hatake_kakashi,  i already got it installed
[02:31] <AnsiC> apt-get install gnome-bluetooth obexftp obexserver bluez-utils
[02:31] <curley_sue> cas: I restarting to see if it works, thanx again!
[02:31] <help-me-pls> cas i tryed to run grub-install /dev/hda
[02:31] <help-me-pls> but didnt work..
[02:32] <help-me-pls> no errors tho
[02:32] <hatake_kakashi> help-me-pls: ahh I misread, I presume you did not mess around with the boot loader? or /boot files?
[02:32] <help-me-pls> but when i rebooted.. same error message
[02:32] <help-me-pls> hatake_kakashi, no
[02:32] <help-me-pls> i havent changed anything of that
[02:32] <pl_ice> samitheberber maybe 40 minutes for me
[02:33] <trackium> please.... the problem is that i can't use environment variables !
[02:33] <help-me-pls> man this suxz
[02:33] <_jason> trackium: export $FOO=bar
[02:33] <samitheberber> pl_ice: ok
[02:33] <_jason> oops
[02:33] <_jason> trackium: export FOO=bar
[02:33] <cas> help-me-pls, just a shot in the dark. Is your cpu time b0rked? It could be possible your bios is resetted (empty battery) and your bootorder is messed up
[02:33] <ufo> help-me-pls: did you check the boot flag with your fdisk
[02:33] <trackium> _jason, yes i know but it only works for a small time
[02:33] <AnsiC> there is a good page about bluetooth
[02:34] <LinuxJones> help-me-pls: what error are you getting ?
[02:34] <AnsiC> all page that i saw using google was bad
[02:34] <_jason> trackium: it works as long as you use that terminal
[02:34] <AnsiC> and help me nothing
[02:34] <help-me-pls> LinuxJones, bootdisk Faliur
[02:34] <help-me-pls> cas my cpu is fine
[02:34] <help-me-pls> ufo, no
[02:34] <cas> help-me-pls, sorry i ment time
[02:34] <_jason> trackium: put it in ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile depending on what you are doing
[02:34] <trackium> _jason, i want to export an environment variable that will stay even after a reboot
[02:34] <cas> help-me-pls, your cpu time
[02:34] <ufo> help-me-pls: and check your grub install
[02:34] <LinuxJones> help-me-pls: do what ufo says and set the bootable partition.
[02:35] <trackium> _jason, i'm installing a small programm which need these variables
[02:35] <help-me-pls> omg.. now i get this mesage when i try to fdisk /dev/hda
[02:35] <help-me-pls> unable to open hda
[02:35] <help-me-pls> omg
[02:35] <help-me-pls> is my hd fired
[02:35] <trackium> _jason, i've just tried to put it in .bash_profile, but i've got no results
[02:36] <_jason> trackium: you want it to work in gnome or outside?
[02:36] <ompaul> help-me-pls, did you sudo fdisk?
[02:36] <AnsiC> apt-get install gnome-bluetooth obexftp obexserver bluez-utils
[02:36] <AnsiC> /etc/init.d/bluez-utils restart
[02:36] <AnsiC> # hidd --search    Searching ...  No devices in range or visible
[02:36] <Crusad0r> Hello
[02:36] <LinuxJones> help-me-pls: do you have a livecd ?
[02:36] <AnsiC> pleseeee
[02:36] <help-me-pls> LinuxJones, im running it now
[02:36] <help-me-pls> brbr i\ll be back.. dinner time
[02:36] <ufo> help-me-pls: power down for a few minits and check the bios
[02:36] <trackium> _jason, i think in gnome will be enough
[02:36] <LinuxJones> help-me-pls: what version of Ubuntu did you install ?
[02:36] <Crusad0r> I've got something strange about timestamp when using kopete on ubuntu. Can someone help me ?
[02:36] <ompaul> AnsiC, please use paste.ubuntu-nl.org for that kind of data
[02:36] <_jason> trackium: make a file called ~/.gnomerc and put this in it: [ -r ~/.bash_profile ]  && . ~/.bash_profile
[02:37] <_jason> trackium: and as long as you did the export right in ~/.bash_profile that will work
[02:37] <trackium> _jason, i try... thx
[02:38] <StyXman> hi all. anyone knows the kernel module i should use with this ide: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) UltraATA-100?
[02:39] <SirKillalot>  can I update my ubuntu breezy to dapper by just adding the new apt sources?
[02:40] <novasilver> bluber1ng
[02:40] <Seveas> SirKillalot, yes, but be prepared to meet errors
[02:41] <SirKillalot> i mean when dapper final is out :)
[02:41] <StyXman> SirKillalot: you better *replace* the current sources
[02:41] <trackium> _jason, what is a right export to put in .bash_profile please ?
[02:41] <SirKillalot> yea
[02:41] <_jason> trackium: export FOO=bar
[02:41] <SirKillalot> so I wont have to kick my old system and install the new from scratch
[02:41] <StyXman> SirKillalot: nop-e
[02:42] <Cyorxamp> I've been getting to linux alot lately this past month (namely Ubuntu)... just been trying to use debian but finding alot of it manual work which (personally) I find dumb.  I don't really like things like Xandros/Linspire as they really do hide alot of technical options - Ubuntu is very nice too but I not much for how it won't let you select what you want installed when you install Ubuntu -   Is there a nice linux OS tha
[02:42] <Seveas> SirKillalot, when dapper is out there will be a separate tool to guide you in the upgrading.
[02:42] <Seveas> SirKillalot, which basically does what you described and catches a few common errors
[02:42] <StyXman> SirKillalot: if you uninstaled (k)ubuntu-desktop, just reinstall it again
[02:42] <jetscreamer> try using dselect Cyorxamp
[02:42] <Cyorxamp> Does that make sense?
[02:42] <Cyorxamp> dselect? that a distro?
[02:42] <StyXman> Seveas: ow, how nice!
[02:42] <trackium> _jason, it doesn't work...
[02:42] <jetscreamer> !info dselect
[02:42] <ubotu> dselect: (a user tool to manage Debian packages), section base, is standard. Version: 1.13.10ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 114 kB, Installed size: 408 kB
[02:43] <jetscreamer> install what you want
[02:43] <jetscreamer> take out what you don
[02:43] <jetscreamer> t
[02:43] <_jason> trackium: paste what your export command looks like
[02:43] <Cyorxamp> How on earth is that ran when I am installing !!!?
[02:43] <curley_sue> !info dbus
[02:43] <ubotu> dbus: (simple interprocess messaging system), section devel, is optional. Version: 0.36.2-0ubuntu7 (breezy), Packaged size: 275 kB, Installed size: 600 kB
[02:43] <StyXman> Cyorxamp: your text got cut: `Is there a nice linux OS tha <-- there
[02:43] <Cyorxamp> '''  that isnt as manual as debian but not as simple as xandros that isnt ubuntu?  ''''
[02:43] <jetscreamer> don't do the tasksel/base-config, aka configure apt-sources
[02:43] <curley_sue> !tell me about dbus
[02:43] <jetscreamer> or whatever the ubuntu way is
[02:44] <kk_> how do I exit the 'man' command?
[02:44] <trackium> _jason, in a terminal i write : export DRQUEUE_MASTER="localhost"
[02:44] <IdleOne> Cyorxamp:  its called Windoes
[02:44] <pl_ice> StyXman This Intel chipset uses the e1000 module, i think that one, just searched on google
[02:44] <jetscreamer> curley_sue: 2 lines above when you parted the last time
[02:44] <we2by_> hello
[02:44] <jetscreamer> http://www.freedesktop.org/software/dbus/
[02:44] <trackium> _jason, in the bash_profile i've tested many ways... but none of them works
[02:44] <we2by_> what tool can I use to keep track of my total data transfer??
[02:44] <StyXman> Cyorxamp: I *shouldn't* say thism, but matbe the answer you search for is Mandriva
[02:44] <Crusad0r> No one can help me with kopete
[02:44] <_jason> trackium: did you put what I told you in .gnomerc and keep that line in ~/.bash_profile?
[02:44] <curley_sue> cas: r u still here?
[02:44] <StyXman> pl_ice: thet's a nic module, I guess?
[02:45] <Cyorxamp> StyXman - I investigated that alot - in the end I went for Ubuntu
[02:45] <Cyorxamp> StyXman - is it debian based?
[02:45] <StyXman> Cyorxamp: mandriva? no, ubuntu? yes
[02:45] <trackium> _jason, yes i've put the line in .gnomerc
[02:45] <help-me-pls> LinuxJones breezer
[02:45] <pl_ice> StyXman /lib/modules/2.4.21-27.0.2.ELsmp/kernel/drivers/net/e1000/e1000.o that only info i have found :)
[02:45] <cas> curley_sue, yup, no luck?
[02:45] <Cyorxamp> Hmmm if I go with Mandriva it may as well be Fedora
[02:46] <StyXman> pl_ice: that? a nic driver. I need the ide one
[02:46] <help-me-pls> ufo the boot flag is set to hda1
[02:46] <LinuxJones> help-me-pls: is it a fresh install ?
[02:46] <help-me-pls> no
[02:46] <_jason> trackium: erm that should work afaik
[02:46] <help-me-pls> i have had it installed 3 weeks
[02:46] <LinuxJones> help-me-pls: are you dual booting with windows or some other os ?
[02:46] <help-me-pls> no i dont have windows
[02:46] <StyXman> we2by_: mrtg?
[02:47] <jetscreamer> kk q
[02:47] <curley_sue> cas: nope! but when i do it through synaptic I receive: : python2.4-sip4-qt3: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:47] <curley_sue> E: python2.4-qt3: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:47] <curley_sue> E: python2.4-kde3: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:47] <curley_sue> E: python-kde3: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:47] <curley_sue> E: kde-guidance: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:47] <curley_sue> E: kubuntu-desktop: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:47] <ufo> help-me-pls: is your boot directory on that partition
[02:47] <StyXman> aghgh
[02:47] <help-me-pls> yes
[02:47] <help-me-pls> its on hda1
[02:47] <_jason> trackium: look at /etc/login.defs I guess
[02:47] <cas> curley_sue, never paste in channels like this, next time use pastebin
[02:47] <help-me-pls> but why did it suddely stop working_
[02:47] <LinuxJones> help-me-pls: it's probably faster just to put the install cd back in and do a fresh install. You could spend days messing about trying to get your problem fixed.
[02:47] <ufo> help-me-pls: try grub-install (
[02:48] <StyXman> !tell curley_sue about pastebin
[02:48] <help-me-pls> ufo tryed that
[02:48] <help-me-pls> grub-install /dev/hda
[02:48] <help-me-pls> not good
[02:48] <ufo> help-me-pls: grub-install /dev/hda
[02:48] <curley_sue> cas: how do I make sure that dbus runs when restarts (when should i use pastebin?)
[02:48] <cas> curley_sue, doesn't sound good.  first make sure your /etc/apt/sources.list is correct
[02:48] <ufo> help-me-pls: check your bios boot
[02:48] <help-me-pls> its set to hardisks
[02:48] <cas> curley_sue, then update and see if you have broken packages
[02:49] <cas> curley_sue, you can see that in synaptics
[02:49] <pl_ice> StyXman google for that nick module, quite a bit of info, i'm off to bed :)
[02:49] <help-me-pls> i havent done anything.. so i dont understand why suddely things got screwed up
[02:49] <ufo> help-me-pls: do you have more than one hard disk on your computer
[02:49] <help-me-pls> ufo, yes 2
[02:49] <LinuxJones> help-me-pls: is your hard drive making any odd noises like clicking sounds ?
[02:50] <help-me-pls> in biso its set to hd0 to boot up
[02:50] <help-me-pls> LinuxJones, no
[02:50] <cas> curley_sue, use pastebin (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/) if you wanna paste more then two rules
[02:50] <StyXman> pl_ice: k, tx
[02:50] <trackium> _jason, i just see the PATH definition in this file
[02:50] <pl_ice> g'night
[02:50] <help-me-pls> i got hacked >( ? why else should it stop working
[02:51] <trackium> _jason, nothing very interesting
[02:51] <_jason> trackium: yeah, I figure you can probably define your variable there too, I don't know the ``right'' way to do it (since the first way I said didn't work)
[02:51] <Juhaz> help-me-pls, hard drives fail all the time without any external help
[02:51] <trackium> _jason, i can try...
[02:51] <ubuntu_> I love the Dapper Flight 4 CD. Anyone familiar with python and the latest gedit? Is there anyway to run a script with raw_input and then be able to fill it out through gedit output window?
[02:52] <IdleOne>  go to #ubuntu+1 for Dapper help :-)
[02:52] <help-me-pls> hmm
[02:53] <kk_> I've just installed ubuntu for the first time on a machine. I would like to access the machine remotly via vnc
[02:53] <curley_sue> cas source.list seems ok (though it's not that I can really tell), how do I check for broken packs?
[02:53] <IdleOne> !tell kk_  about vnc
[02:53] <_jason> kk_: system > prefs > remote desktop
[02:53] <ubuntu_> thanks IdleOne!
[02:53] <kk_> how do I set vnc to start up first so I can logon through vnc?
[02:54] <kk_> I've used vnc alot with windows but linux is all new to me
[02:54] <cas> curley_sue, you can see that in synaptics Custom->Broken
[02:54] <help-me-pls> damn this is anoying.. i think my boot sector is wrect
[02:55] <B_166-ER-X> i have a problem compiling gtkpod 0.99.2    just look at the 'make' part for one... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9172    , Can someone help ?? please
[02:56] <curley_sue> cas I don't have a custom menu in synaptic
[02:56] <cas> B_166-ER-X, what is the problem? seems like it build just fine
[02:56] <help-me-pls> how can i tell is the bootsector is wrect_
[02:56] <help-me-pls> *is/iif
[02:57] <B_166-ER-X> cas i was under the impression there were errors, usually it says it when its correctly finish
[02:57] <B_166-ER-X> i'll try it
[02:57] <cas> curley_sue, here it is left under (But i'm running +1, so I dunno if the GUI is still the same)
[02:57] <trackium> _jason, it doesn't want to work...
[02:57] <cas> B_166-ER-X, no, it is the other way around with make. I't fine unless it gives you an error ;)
[02:57] <_jason> trackium: don't know then
[02:58] <trackium> _jason, i think my ubuntu is really ill
[02:58] <curley_sue> cas: thanx for your pataince!!! no broken
[02:58] <_jason> trackium: you are logging out and back in to test these things?
[02:58] <B_166-ER-X> ok then
[02:58] <yacc> What are the equivalent of testing and unstable on Ubuntu?
[02:58] <trackium> _jason, no
[02:59] <_jason> trackium: you need to... with the .gnomerc method too
[02:59] <cas> curley_sue, np :), no try update, mark upgrades and apply and see if everything goes ok
[02:59] <trackium> _jason, henk said me that t wasn't necessary
[02:59] <fundacite> hello?
[02:59] <trackium> _jason, ok.... another try will give the answer
[02:59] <B_166-ER-X> cas well, i still cant run it  : oli@NabuchadnesarIII:~/gtkpod-0.99.2$ gtkpod
[02:59] <B_166-ER-X> gtkpod: error while loading shared libraries: libgpod.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory '
[02:59] <_jason> trackium: well no, you can just do 'source ~/.bash_profile' but if you want to test it you should log out and log back in
[02:59] <bimberi> yacc: breezy is 'stable', dapper is the development version
[03:00] <GreenCult> hi all
[03:00] <ufo> help-me-pls: try to dis connect the other disk
[03:00] <cas> B_166-ER-X, did you `make install` it?
[03:00] <B_166-ER-X> yep
[03:00] <curley_sue> cas did u mean "reload"?
[03:00] <yacc> bimberi: So I can do the usual stuff, aff dapper to the sources.list, defined a standard distribution, and selectivly update packages?
[03:01] <B_166-ER-X> cas its like if it wasnt completely installed
[03:01] <cas> curley_sue, sorry yes
[03:01] <Crusad0r> No one can help me with kopete ?
[03:01] <cas> B_166-ER-X, `cd src && ./gtkpod` and see if that runs
[03:01] <curley_sue> cas: so I have nothing to "apply" for...
[03:02] <IdleOne> Crusad0r:  try #kopete
[03:02] <marseillai> axisys: thanks for your help! i was able to change the sudoers file with dapper livecd!
[03:02] <yorian> I'm in xchat right now, how can I make a decent list of all the channels on the server?
[03:02] <curley_sue> cas nothing to upgrade
[03:02] <cas> curley_sue, ok seems thats ok then
[03:02] <Crusad0r> IdleOne, I did, but it seems the problem I encounter comes from ubuntu
[03:02] <B_166-ER-X> oli@NabuchadnesarIII:~$ cd src && ./gtkpod
[03:02] <B_166-ER-X> bash: cd:  no file or directory ..
[03:02] <IdleOne> yorian:  go to Window the Channel list
[03:02] <cas> curley_sue, gimme a sec o find out how to see if dbus is starting by default
[03:03] <swiadek> Hi. Is there an english type dictionary terminal based application. Preferably application that connects and retrieves from online source such as www.dictionary.com
[03:03] <bimberi> yacc: i don't think you can mix the repos that way but i don't know for sure sorry
[03:03] <yorian> IdleOne: Thanks! :)
[03:03] <Onix> hi
[03:03] <cas> curley_sue, do `sudo update-rc.d -n dbus defaults`
[03:03] <yacc> Well, it worked for Debian, OTOH, these are company boxes, so I'll let our new fulltime admin sort it out :)
[03:04] <B_166-ER-X> cas you saw what i pasted
[03:04] <cas> curley_sue, if it is correct it should give you: System startup links for /etc/init.d/dbus already exist.
[03:04] <trackium> _jason, thanks, it seems to be working
[03:04] <priich> yacc: you might get dependency problems but go ahead and test, that is what testing is for... :)
[03:04] <cas> B_166-ER-X, are you in your dir where you typed make??
[03:04] <_jason> trackium: np
[03:05] <B_166-ER-X> in my /home
[03:05] <cas> B_166-ER-X, cd /home/oli/gtkpod-0.99.2/src && ./gtkpod
[03:05] <IdleOne> cas:  could it be that he did make and then did sudo make install? wondering if the sudo part did something it shouldnt have
[03:05] <bimberi> yacc: lol.  i guess if the dependencies are set up correctly it will work (eg. an attempt to install one dapper package might want to upgrade libc6 and hence everything else that depends on that)
[03:05] <yohan> hi !
[03:05] <yacc> bimberi: Right.
[03:06] <B_166-ER-X> ./gtkpod: error while loading shared libraries: libgpod.so.0: cannot open shared , cas
[03:06] <yacc> bimberi: That's the moment one presses very strongly the N key ;)
[03:06] <bimberi> yacc: yes indeed :P
[03:06] <B_166-ER-X> here is the log of the make install , http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9173
[03:07] <cas> IdleOne, no, it does exactly the same. But if you configured it with no special install path you can't do make install as default user because you don't have write permissions in /usr/bin
[03:07] <cas> B_166-ER-X, ah excuse me, it did installed it but it seems you're missing some libs
[03:07] <curley_sue> cas: pls check http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9174
[03:07] <instabin> how do i make split zip files like rar files in windows
[03:08] <B_166-ER-X> arrrr
[03:08] <babo> Hi guys, do ye know anything about mailing ...
[03:08] <B_166-ER-X> didnt tell me in the config..
[03:08] <B_166-ER-X> cas how do i know wich
[03:08] <javiolo> hi
[03:08] <larsemil> is there any program for linux thats like 3dmark05? i want a benchmarkingprog..
[03:09] <mjr> not really
[03:09] <javiolo> are there the same packages to 386 available on ppc ?
[03:09] <yohan> do you know where can i find windows theme for ubuntu ?
[03:09] <babo> I have a load of email addresses that I want to send mail to. But I want the return email address to be on my host providers server - not mine. Should I go to the trouble of installing an MTA or not ... what do you think ?
[03:09] <mjr> javiolo, mostly yes, except for some packages for which that wouldn't make sense (low-level stuff)
[03:09] <B_166-ER-X> cas how can i know 'wich' libs it needs ?
[03:09] <javiolo> mjr ok
[03:09] <mjr> javiolo, of course, third party proprietary software may not be available for ppc
[03:10] <yorian> larsemil: go to http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html, I see some stuff there
[03:10] <javiolo> mjr how about repos ?
[03:10] <priich> instabin: gnu split ?
[03:10] <javiolo> mjr backports... ?
[03:10] <mjr> javiolo, dunno about non-ubuntu repos
[03:10] <javiolo> do anyone knows ?
[03:10] <cas> B_166-ER-X, I never used that software but it looks like libgpod
[03:11] <B_166-ER-X> cas i have libgpod 1.4 :\
[03:11] <curley_sue> cas i have a reboot request from the last update. b right back...
[03:11] <cas> curley_sue, dbus is reinstalled correctly and it does start on default
[03:11] <B_166-ER-X> cas . compiled it last night
[03:11] <cas> curley_sue, those errors are another problem wich i dunno a quick solution for only reinstalling your python packages
[03:11] <bestadvocate> so, I just installed the package server-xgl, the question is, is it possible to make it do anything yet?
[03:12] <cradek> !Xgl
[03:12] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[03:12] <sys-admin> hi anybody has got an Old PC that you would like to donate for opensource project?
[03:12] <bestadvocate> thanks cradek
[03:12] <yorian> ubotu: I saw a XGL-topic in the breezy forum?
[03:12] <ubotu> yorian: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:13] <ubuntu_> where is the clearlooks gtk file? It is not in ~/.themes ... ???
[03:14] <cas> B_166-ER-X, did you also installed it? and don't you have official debs installed? they could be bothering each other
[03:14] <priich> ubuntu_ : try /usr/share/themes
[03:14] <B_166-ER-X> cas i deleted my old libgpod , then recompiled it, and make install, it.
[03:14] <B_166-ER-X> according to the install, there were no problem..
[03:15] <ubuntu_> priich: ok
[03:15] <_jason> B_166-ER-X: use checkinstall instead of make install
[03:15] <cas> ubuntu_, did you installed the gtk2-engines-clearlooks? if you did you can see the properties of it in synaptics where it installed it's files
[03:15] <ubuntu_> priich: thanks man, thats it!
[03:16] <ubuntu_> cas: I am on the dapper live cd testing something!
[03:16] <ubuntu_> cas: thanks :)
[03:16] <B_166-ER-X> cas command not found !?
[03:16] <javiolo> are there the same packages to 386 available on ppc ?
[03:17] <cas> B_166-ER-X, what command? most libs don't have commands
[03:17] <B_166-ER-X> 'checkinstall'
[03:17] <_jason> sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[03:17] <B_166-ER-X> hehe
[03:18] <jessy> can someone help me i have keyboard issue after install xgl/compiz, ALT-GR doesn t work :'(
[03:18] <cas> B_166-ER-X, you need to install it. _jason gave you a better way then make install, this make a deb for you wich you can install afterwards with dpkg -i package.deb
[03:18] <Healot> mostly... and remember they are compiled for ppc :)
[03:18] <_jason> B_166-ER-X: by the way, that was just a recommendation, probably has nothing to do with whatever problem you are having
[03:19] <curley_sue> cas after reboot - no progress... did u have the time to check the pastebin?
[03:19] <cas> curley_sue, yeah i did
[03:20] <cas> curley_sue, the errors you are getting don't have much to do with your problem. dbus is installed correctly and must start on boot.
[03:21] <Alonso> hola algien me entiende
[03:22] <Alonso> holaaa
[03:22] <cas> curley_sue, I think it is weird you only need to restart dbus for your problem. Does it automaticly restarts other services aswell? like hald for example?
[03:22] <Alonso> algien habla espaol
[03:23] <cas> curley_sue, I'm sorry I need to go. I hope you can find your problem or someone else can help you with it
[03:25] <Healot> do what my buddy used to do, reinstall the system repetitively :)
[03:25] <curley_sue> cas thanx alot anyhow - i'll put relevant screeshots nxt to that pastebin
[03:25] <monzie> is there a good WYSIWYG html editor for Ubuntu?
[03:25] <Healot> nvu :)
[03:25] <monzie> something like frontpage?
[03:26] <cas> curley_sue, your welcome and good luck
[03:26] <Healot> it's on the universe package, nvu, monzie
[03:26] <monzie> thanks
[03:26] <myki> How to mount nrg cd image?
[03:26] <monzie> mount -o loop myki
[03:27] <monzie> beyond that , man mount
[03:27] <myki> kk
[03:27] <Healot> you can't actually mount Nero's NRG image in linux...
[03:27] <Healot> ISO Image, yes...
[03:27] <Mwafrika> Somebody help me with playing Video CD in Ubuntu
[03:28] <myki> Healot: so there's any way to do it?
[03:28] <myki> Healot: ok, o got it "you can't" ;)
[03:28] <curley_sue> HELP I have a desktop problem, probably has to do with dbus
[03:29] <kbrooks> I want to build a LiveCD based on Ubuntu, that includes all of the Python goodies.
[03:30] <kbrooks> How do I do this?
[03:30] <myki> Healot: Where is actually way to mount nrg: http://llg.cubic.org/tools/mount.nrg ;)
[03:31] <anto9us> myki, this claims to be able to do it http://freshmeat.net/projects/mount-iso-image/
[03:31] <curley_sue> kbrooks do u know Quantation? it's a knoppix live-cd ment for scientific work - has many Python goodies in it
[03:31] <fletch33> morning all if anyone has a sec could you tell me how i might fix this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9179
[03:31] <fletch33> i am unable to update some stuff in synaptic because of this
[03:31] <curley_sue> !tell me about dbus
[03:31] <kbrooks> curley_sue, no, i'm talking based on ubuntu
[03:32] <_jason> fletch33: sudo apt-get update, in accessories > terminal
[03:32] <B_166-ER-X> cas , im not sure to see how can checkinstall help me... it just build a .deb
[03:32] <fletch33> _jason,  that doesnt do it
[03:32] <priich> myki, try  mount -o loop,offset=307200 filename.nrg /media/ISO
[03:32] <lakcaj> Mwafrika, what media players have you tried?  What errors are you getting?  You have to be more specific in your question.
[03:33] <myki> priich: yep, got it earlier, btw thx
[03:33] <fletch33> _jason,  i get an error during the update
[03:33] <_jason> fletch33: what error
[03:33] <priich> myki: heh sorry :)
[03:33] <myki> np np
[03:33] <priich> myki: there's also a nrg2iso utility
[03:34] <curley_sue> kbrooks, have u checked https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo
[03:34] <curley_sue> ?
[03:34] <fletch33> _jason,  i am posting it now
[03:34] <Mwafrika> Lackaj: I it says something like no plugin for .dat file.... with Totem player
[03:34] <kbrooks> curley_sue, im there now
[03:34] <myki> priich: this's out of the question, I've burned some nrg images on dvd ;)
[03:34] <fletch33> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9180
[03:35] <lakcaj> Mwafrika, try mplayer or vlc
[03:35] <Mwafrika> Lakcaj: let me try..... i think i can google around and download
[03:35] <_jason> ubotu: tell fletch33 about seveas
[03:35] <kbrooks> !seveas
[03:35] <_jason> fletch33: fix the GPG error first by reading seveas' repo page
[03:35] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:36] <curley_sue> HELP NEEDED A DBUS PROBLEM
[03:36] <Seveas> curley_sue, hit your caps lock
[03:36] <fletch33> _jason, k where do i find it?
[03:36] <_jason> fletch33: as for the gzip error I don;t know
[03:36] <kbrooks> curley_sue, ASK THEN GOD DAMN IT
[03:36] <Seveas> it won't solve the d-bus problem but it helps
[03:36] <kbrooks> cap off. ;)
[03:36] <_jason> fletch33: check your private messages
[03:36] <fletch33> _jason,  k got iut
[03:36] <Seveas> kbrooks, language please...
[03:36] <kbrooks> Seveas, yes sir
[03:36] <fletch33> _jason,  thanks for your help i will let you know if it works
[03:37] <kbrooks> Seveas, remind me sometime later :)
[03:37] <lakcaj> Mwafrika, vlc in in the universe repository
[03:37] <lakcaj> Mwafrika, vlc is an excellent video player anyway, I would certainly use it over totem
[03:38] <Mwafrika> lackaj: Thanks Lakcaj.... let me start checking on VLC first
[03:38] <curley_sue> can anyone help me with a dbus problem? (have to restart dbus in order to my mounted devs in places menu)
[03:39] <Al-Daja> there's anyway to find something that i download and i don't know where it is using like find of windows or some program?
[03:39] <curley_sue> Al-Daja: r u using gnome and firefox?
[03:40] <Al-Daja> gnome, i already download it i just want to find where it is in my pc
[03:40] <tristan> Al-Daja : you find in the gnome menu
[03:40] <tristan> Al-Daja : use find in the gnome menu
[03:40] <curley_sue> Al-Daja, under Places menu theres Search files
[03:41] <curley_sue> Al-Daja, easier if u've downloaded using firefox (under tools - dowloads)
[03:43] <fletch33> Seveas,  on your repository page am i suppose to put the " gpg --" lines in my sources.list and if so do i keep everything else that is in there?
[03:44] <Al-Daja> tristan: thx i'm really dum just in front off my eyes i did saw it
[03:44] <_jason> fletch33: those are commands
[03:44] <fletch33> _jason, thanks
[03:46] <idefix_> when are they going to program a smiley that has a beard into GAIM?
[03:46] <idefix_> I am extremely amazed that it doesn't exist yet
[03:47] <_jason> hopefully never
[03:47] <idefix_> _jason! how can you say that?
[03:47] <idefix_> it would be the best thing that ever happened to mankind!
[03:47] <nasso> does anyone know if there is an easy app that just prints how muc data is being sent/recieved via eth0/sec?
[03:47] <idefix_> should I just draw one myself?
[03:47] <_jason> idefix_: I turn off the simleys, I like them in their original form better :)
[03:47] <nasso> i dont really understand iftop ^_^
[03:48] <Manny> hi :)
[03:48] <Manny> what's the developer channel? :)
[03:48] <fletch33> _jason,  i ran those command lines and the added the 2 "deb etc" lines from one of the mirrors to my sources.list and i still get the same error i had before
[03:48] <_jason> fletch33: you shouldn't get the GPG error
[03:48] <curley_sue> can anyone help me with a DBUS problem?
[03:49] <curley_sue> I no longer have my mounted devs under places menu unless I restart dbus
[03:49] <csb> is there a common reason for the error: "Odd number of elements in hash assignment"? I've debugged, and the hash looks like it's setup ok, and the script does continue to run
[03:49] <fletch33> _jason,  did i follow the steps correctly because i am getting the exact same error
[03:49] <nasso> does anyone know if there is an livecd with xgl anywhere?
[03:49] <_jason> fletch33: only you can know that, it's just issuing two commands in the terminal
[03:50] <larsemil> in what package can i find the glu lib?
[03:50] <fletch33> _jason,  yeah as i posted above i ran the 2 commands then added the mirror to my sources.list
[03:51] <fletch33> _jason,  i dont know if it matters but my sources.list was empty when i went to add the mirror
[03:51] <_jason> fletch33: did you get errors with the commands?
[03:51] <larsemil> anyone knows anything of GLU library...?
[03:51] <fletch33> _jason,  no
[03:52] <_jason> larsemil: apt-cache search glu library turn up anything?
[03:52] <mjr> larsemil, it's an OpenGL utility library
[03:52] <florent_> hi
[03:52] <larsemil> mjr: but i dont find it in the resp
[03:52] <curley_sue> HELP can anyone help me with a DBUS problem?
[03:52] <curley_sue> I no longer have my mounted devs under places menu unless I restart dbus
[03:53] <fletch33> _jason,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9182
[03:53] <sesq> I have one one HDD windows, on second Ubuntu, today when i make boot HDD with ubuntu, the windows starts, help ?
[03:53] <_jason> fletch33: what does apt-get update do now?
[03:53] <fletch33> _jason,  1 sec i will see
[03:53] <Josh1> Has anyone got Snes9X working? I cant figure it out, and yes its for linux :p
[03:53] <jjjjjjj> do i have to download firefox and then install or is there a sudo apt-get command?  thx
[03:54] <msi> with firework
[03:54] <ompaul> jjjjjjj, are you talking about ff1.5?
[03:54] <florent_> i would lie to know how to test my mic entries over xfce? i use ess maestro sound chip, i don't see any sounds "enter" in idefisk application when i speak? can someone help me ?
[03:54] <jjjjjjj> yes
[03:54] <msi> with firefox you can just unzip and run
[03:54] <poningru> jjjjjjj: you will have to download it
[03:54] <poningru> !firefox1.5
[03:54] <ompaul> !ff1.5
[03:54] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:54] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:54] <fletch33> _jason,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9183
[03:54] <poningru> wtf
[03:54] <poningru> oh
[03:54] <ompaul> poningru, hmmm
[03:54] <msi> btw does anyone know an application like task manager in windows, i like to see my cpu usage
[03:55] <larsemil> msi there is a standard thing in the panel...
[03:55] <_jason> msi: system tools > system monitor
[03:55] <amphi> msi: top
[03:55] <poningru> msi: system monitor
[03:55] <msi> cool thanks
[03:55] <jessy> need help with XGL/COMPIZ
[03:55] <Josh1> Has anyone got Snes9X working? I cant figure it out, and yes its for linux.
[03:55] <poningru> jessy: whats up?
[03:55] <poningru> jessy: the current compiz in repo doesnt use gnome-window-decorator
[03:55] <jessy> poningru, i've installed xgl/compiz, everything works, but now my keybord is corrupted
[03:56] <Healot> "not working" is way too general...
[03:56] <poningru> jessy: hmm
[03:56] <florent_> there is a french channel of ubuntu ?
[03:56] <jessy> i'm under breezy
[03:56] <poningru> !fr
[03:56] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[03:56] <IdleOne> !fr
[03:56] <Josh1> #ubuntufr
[03:56] <florent_> oki thx
[03:56] <florent_> bye all
[03:56] <jessy> i'm french
[03:56] <triablo_> Hello,does anybody know how to install glib?
[03:56] <jessy> so i have made a
[03:56] <amphi> jessy: congratulations
[03:56] <jessy> xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.fr-2
[03:56] <jessy> why amphi ??
[03:56] <msi> does ubuntu support hyperthreading?
[03:57] <_jason> fletch33: see gpg error is gone
[03:57] <poningru> jessy: dude the xgl/compiz is not supposed to be used under breazy it will break stuff under breazy
[03:57] <Healot> like, i installed "fglrx" and it didn't work
[03:57] <jessy> poningru, there is a howto on ubuntuforums
[03:57] <fletch33> _jason,  ok but i still have an issue. what next do u think
[03:57] <poningru> jessy: iirc thats for dapper only
[03:57] <poningru> !xgl
[03:57] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[03:57] <larsemil> still cant find and install the GLU library... have tried all finds even reminding of GLU in the resp.
[03:57] <poningru> larsemil: what are you looking for?
[03:58] <jessy> what's this ? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133772&highlight=compiz+breezy
[03:58] <larsemil> poningru, the GLU librarie
[03:58] <_jason> fletch33: can you see http://archive.ubuntu.com in your browser?
[03:58] <jessy> i think that's not a problem of version
[03:58] <amphi> jessy: joking
[03:58] <msi> does anyone here use ubuntu with HT turned on? any issues experienced?
[03:58] <fletch33> _jason,  it is an index
[03:59] <jessy> when i'm making a xmodmap /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.fr-2 // key works fine, but shortcuts for using compiz aren't working
[03:59] <Healot> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ---do package search here... easier
[03:59] <_jason> fletch33: comment the main repo in sources.list, apt-get update, uncomment, apt-get update
[03:59] <_jason> fletch33: if it still doesn't work, use a mirror like us.archive
[03:59] <jessy> poningru, is there another command to set xgl use french keyboard ?
[04:00] <fletch33> _jason,  ok a little lost what am i suppose to do?
[04:00] <xerophyte> when i type wrong url in the firefox its goes to microsoft site ,does anybody know how can i avoid that
[04:00] <poningru> jessy: are you using the xorg.conf that the guy gave?
[04:00] <fletch33> _jason,  how do i comment? sorry i am a noob
[04:00] <curley_sue> HELP can anyone help me with a DBUS problem?
[04:00] <_jason> fletch33: gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list', find the lines that have 'breezy main' and then just put a # in front
[04:00] <jessy> poningru, no i'm using mine
[04:00] <curley_sue> I no longer have my mounted devs under places menu unless I restart dbus
[04:00] <Healot> put # infront of each line
[04:01] <fletch33> _jason,  k thanks i will give that a shot
[04:01] <jessy> poningru, but mine is very similar
[04:01] <xerophyte> http//ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=128602
[04:01] <poningru> jessy: did you add the modules?
[04:02] <jessy> poningru, at the bottom ? yes
[04:02] <poningru> jessy: I am guessing that the xgl simply doesnt have support for the french keyboard
[04:02] <JRlinux> What is the most often mispronounced distribution of Linux?
[04:02] <snowblink> JRlinux, suse
[04:02] <Healot> debian
[04:02] <JRlinux> My guess is ooBOONtu
[04:03] <jessy> poningru, do you think that xgl make a difference between french and english CTRL button ?
[04:03] <JRlinux> snowblink, you could be right
[04:03] <_jason> !pronounce
[04:03] <ubotu> I guess pronounce is how to pronounce 'ubuntu': "oo-BOON-too".  See http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/pronunciation for details.
[04:03] <poningru> jessy: try #xgl-ubuntu cause I dont know much about this
[04:03] <jessy> ok
[04:03] <poningru> jessy: yeah that would make a diff
[04:04] <Assassin5> that page doesn't exist anymore
[04:04] <jessy> the strange thing is that the cube rotation (ctrl+alt+right clic) works
[04:04] <JRlinux> Darn, my newly burned install disk of amd64 live dapper freezes up...
[04:04] <jessy> and cube rotation with ctrl+alt+arrow doesn't work :s
[04:04] <JRlinux> Won't run on my new Compaq laptop.
[04:04] <poningru> hmm
[04:04] <nasso> does anyone here know how iftop works?
[04:05] <Healot> is that laptop using a 64bit processor? JRlinux ?
[04:05] <JRlinux> yes
[04:05] <poningru> JRlinux: it could be a problem with the cd
[04:05] <poningru> JRlinux: check the md5sum
[04:05] <Healot> how does "it won't run", what errors did you encounter...
[04:06] <Healot> won't run is too general
[04:06] <JRlinux> Could be, poningru , but md5sum checks both with published and with burned disk.
[04:06] <harfooz> hi all. I'm new to Ubuntu, and have two packages being held back that I could use some advice about: linux-image-386 linux-restricted-modules-386. My machine uses a Celeron processor and has an nvidia card (which I already have the driver working for). What is the proper way to resolve these two packages being held?
[04:06] <JRlinux> Healot, I forget just where it stalled.  Early on
[04:06] <poningru> JRlinux: the md5 sums of the cds are published
[04:06] <poningru> you can check em on the website
[04:06] <Healot> checkout again...
[04:07] <JRlinux> Yes, they all check.
[04:07] <Healot> then we can work it out
[04:07] <harfooz> Should I try installing linux-image-686? Will doing dist-upgrade break my nvidia driver?
[04:07] <gniiii> hello, do you know if the live cd of ubuntu provide the access to pptp-php-client & mppe protocol ?
[04:07] <selinium> Hi all, i have tried to install realplayer a few times on this machine to no avail. Any help gratefully received!
[04:07] <selinium> Hi Seveas
[04:07] <selinium> :)
[04:07] <Ng> harfooz: if you install linux-686 it should depend on all the right things
[04:07] <poningru> harfooz: install the 686
[04:07] <poningru> !realplayer
[04:07] <ubotu> from memory, realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:08] <harfooz> great! Thanks Ng and poningru !
[04:08] <exxpert> Question, when I run -anything- with sudo, I don't get any confirmations or outputs of any kind. Like sudo echo test, won't show anything :S Any ideas?
[04:08] <fletch33> _jason,  that didnt seem to work here is a copy of the error ansd my sources.list  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9185
[04:09] <poningru> exxpert: you should have gotten a password prompt
[04:09] <poningru> exxpert: where are you typing that?
[04:09] <exxpert> poningru: well yes, I type in the password, but the actual command doesn't give any output
[04:09] <exxpert> In my terminal
[04:09] <harfooz> Ng, poningru: once I complete installing the 686 linux-image, a reboot will be required, right?
[04:10] <Ng> correct
[04:10] <_jason> fletch33: comment 41 and 42, use a different mirror if you want
[04:10] <poningru> harfooz: yes
[04:10] <fletch33> _jason, k i will try that now i really appreciate your help
[04:10] <curley_sue> HELP can anyone help me with a DBUS problem?
[04:10] <curley_sue> I no longer have my mounted devs under places menu unless I restart dbus
[04:10] <_jason> fletch33: I'm gonna be gone for a bit, just ask the channel any other questions you have
[04:10] <fletch33> _jason,  got it thanks
[04:11] <fletch33> _jason,  works now
[04:11] <poningru> exxpert: it should have said test
[04:11] <exxpert> poningru: hence my concern, because it doesn't
[04:11] <poningru> exxpert: go check /bin
[04:11] <poningru> see if there is a file called echo
[04:12] <gniiii> or kvpn
[04:12] <exxpert> Echo works just fine
[04:12] <poningru> sudo echo doesnt?
[04:12] <exxpert> Just not with sudo
[04:12] <poningru> hmm weird
[04:12] <poningru> do other sudo commands work?
[04:12] <fevel> im having trouble shutting down the pc or restarting it
[04:12] <poningru> fevel: whats wrong?
[04:13] <harfooz> poningru, after a successful reboot with the new linux-image, should I delete the 386 version? Can that be easily done through apt-get?
[04:13] <exxpert> Well, I just tried typing sudo nano, and that did nothing
[04:13] <poningru> harfooz: no need
[04:13] <fevel> it says its going down for a reboot but never does
[04:13] <harfooz> ok
[04:13] <harfooz> thanks very much for the help!
[04:13] <poningru> harfooz: np
[04:13] <ompaul> exxpert, sudo id <-- what does that say?
[04:13] <poningru> good idea
[04:13] <exxpert> nothing
[04:13] <poningru> wtf
[04:13] <idefix_> is main, contrib and non-free the same as main, restricted and universe/multiverse?
[04:14] <idefix_> i.o.w. are the universe/multiverse repositories not free!?
[04:14] <poningru> exxpert: what does su give you?
[04:14] <mjr> idefix_, universe is free, resctricted and multiverse are not
[04:14] <Ng> idefix_: what are contrib and non-free?
[04:14] <Healot> ubuntu vs. debian terms?
[04:14] <Ng> idefix_: the official ubuntu repositories are main, restricted, universe, multiverse and a backports for each release
[04:14] <exxpert> poningru: Hmm, authentication failure
[04:14] <idefix_> oh I read something from the help of the Synaptic Packages
[04:14] <mjr> idefix_, main and restricted are "officially" supported, the verses community-supported
[04:15] <terracorp> hy
[04:15] <idefix_> so if I'd manage to contribute something it'd be in one of the verses then
[04:15] <poningru> exxpert: oh do passwd root and enter a password
[04:15] <jimcooncat> can I get better clipboard functionality?
[04:15] <terracorp> who can help me configure my tv tuner on ubuntu using tvtime tellevision?
[04:15] <exxpert> poningru: >< denied
[04:15] <poningru> wtf
[04:16] <exxpert> It says I can't change or see the passwd for root
[04:16] <poningru> exxpert: oh I think I know why
[04:16] <exxpert> Good thing someone does :P
[04:16] <poningru> exxpert: are you the only user of that box?
[04:16] <poningru> I dont think you have sudo privs
[04:17] <poningru> super user*
[04:17] <exxpert> Well, I'm fairly sure I'm the only one
[04:17] <exxpert> How could I set it if I don't have it?
[04:17] <Healot> %admib
[04:17] <exxpert> Healot: ?
[04:17] <poningru> exxpert: go to system->admin->users and groups
[04:18] <poningru> and under privs make sure you have super user
[04:18] <Ng> exxpert: ideally you don't want to have a root password
[04:18] <Ng> if you are a member of the "admin" group you have sudo access
[04:18] <poningru> oh yeah
[04:18] <exxpert> Yeah, but since I have no root pass, and no sudo access
[04:18] <poningru> you need su access to access admin
[04:18] <sohmc> I'm trying to compile a program but I'm getting an error saying I can't create executibles.
[04:18] <poningru> exxpert: can you open up synaptic or others under admin?
[04:19] <Ng> exxpert: you can reboot into recovery mode and run "adduser yourusername admin" to put yourusername into the admin group
[04:19] <tombs> hi all
[04:19] <terracorp> Who can help me setup my tv tuner on ubuntu??
[04:19] <exxpert> poningru: Used to, not anymore, it's not there
[04:19] <exxpert> Ng: I see
[04:19] <poningru> exxpert: yeah do what Ng said
[04:19] <exxpert> I'll try that
[04:19] <jjjjjjj> i clicked a link in here and firefox opened in a terminal.... help
[04:19] <we2by_> I just setup the graphes for my router using mrtg
[04:19] <exxpert> Thanks guys
[04:20] <we2by_> but I don't see the total transfer in gb.
[04:20] <jjjjjjj> now i did have ff open when i was upgrading it to 1.5 a minute ago
[04:20] <curley_sue> HELP I don have my mounted devices under the places menu!
[04:20] <snowblink> what is the best way of updating multiple boxes when security updates come out?
[04:20] <we2by_> does mrtg count the total transfer too? or do I need another tool for that?
[04:20] <poningru> sohmc: whats wrong?
[04:20] <poningru> what are you trying to compile?
[04:20] <sohmc> poningru, not sure...here's the error I get
[04:21] <poningru> dont paste it here
[04:21] <poningru> paste it on pastebin
[04:21] <Healot> use pastebin :)
[04:21] <poningru> if its more than a two liner
[04:21] <poningru> !patebin
[04:21] <ubotu> poningru: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:21] <poningru> !pastebin
[04:21] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[04:21] <terracorp> anyone?
[04:21] <hoviadko> is there some grafical frontend for installing packages that you downloaded manually coming? i can't imagine explaining friends they need to write dpkg... in commmand line
[04:21] <terracorp> help plese
[04:22] <poningru> hoviadko: synaptic
[04:22] <Manny> hoviadko IMHO that's planned for later releases
[04:22] <Manny> it's on the TODO list of some talented people, at least :)
[04:22] <sohmc> poningru, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9186
[04:22] <poningru> oh you mean like that
[04:22] <hoviadko> Manny: good
[04:22] <BAD-IDEA> how do i run apache and mysql ?
[04:22] <Manny> (I could also say GET INVOLVED NOW AND HELP US PROGRAMMING IT but you'd just refuse to do so ;/)
[04:22] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, apt-get install apache2
[04:23] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, you can also try synaptic to install those programs
[04:23] <curley_sue> HELP I don have my mounted devices under the places menu!
[04:23] <Ng> Manny: try #ubuntu-deve;
[04:23] <poningru> sohmc: do you have build-essentials installed?
[04:23] <Ng> erk
[04:23] <Ng> #ubuntu-devel rather
[04:23] <BAD-IDEA> sohmc i installed but somehow the webserver dosent read php files
[04:23] <Manny> Ng thanks, I made a similar typo
[04:24] <sohmc> poningru, nope....that would do it
[04:24] <poningru> sohmc: :D
[04:24] <Al-Daja> i get ircd from synaptic pack manager but i try to find it, and it wasn't in anyplace, what i'm doing wrong?
[04:24] <sohmc> poningru, still new to ubuntu...I'm used to fedora installing everything
[04:24] <terracorp> Hey who can help me setup my tv tuner on ubuntu please help !
[04:24] <poningru> happens to the best of us
[04:24] <BAD-IDEA> when i go to http://localhost/folder/index.php its opens to download the file
[04:24] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, you need to install the php modules
[04:24] <poningru> sohmc: yeah most people ubuntu is aimed at dont need build essentials
[04:24] <poningru> if they do then ubuntu failed
[04:24] <BAD-IDEA> i installed that allso bit how to integrade them together
[04:24] <sohmc> poningru, but I like building stuff...there's nothing letting your cyber hands dirty now and then... ;-)
[04:25] <harfooz> poningru, I have a problem with the nvidia module and the 686 kernel. Failed to load the nvidia module.
[04:25] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, what do you mean?
[04:25] <poningru> BAD-IDEA: phpadmin
[04:25] <harfooz> I removed nvidia-glx and tried reinstalling it.
[04:25] <poningru> hmm
[04:25] <Al-Daja> i get ircd from synaptic pack manager but i try to find it, and it wasn't in anyplace, what i'm doing wrong?
[04:25] <harfooz> following the instructions at this website: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[04:25] <BAD-IDEA> how do i check that both mysql and apache is running ?
[04:26] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, you may need to restart the apache server to have it install the module
[04:26] <poningru> BAD-IDEA: ps aux
[04:26] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[04:26] <poningru> harfooz: hmm
[04:26] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, ps auw | grep mysql
[04:26] <poningru> harfooz: if thats all you are trying to do then just get easyubuntu
[04:26] <poningru> !easyubuntu
[04:26] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[04:27] <BAD-IDEA> sohmc can i read the tutorial somewere in the net
[04:27] <xerophyte> does anybody know why the firefox 1.5 crashes often on the Ubunut
[04:27] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, tutorial for what?>
[04:27] <Puppetsmaster> I'm looking fro clamav-data 0.88-2 volatile... hre i can find it?
[04:28] <BAD-IDEA> how to apache + mysql webserver
[04:28] <jjjjjjj> !ff1.5
[04:28] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:28] <sohmc> xerophyte, are you trying to use the firefox installed for ubuntu, or the one from the mozilla web site?
[04:28] <danychouinard> Hello, I want to rebuild my raid device with a different number of member, is it possible to do it while keeping my data?
[04:29] <xerophyte> sohmc i have installed using automatix
[04:29] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, well you cant just run apache and mysql together...you need some sort of parser... most people use php (like me)
[04:29] <poningru> xerophyte: thats the prob
[04:29] <sohmc> xerophyte, hmmm...I don't know what automatix is
[04:29] <poningru> dont use automatix
[04:29] <poningru> !automatix
[04:29] <ubotu> automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'ynYn'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[04:29] <BAD-IDEA> i installed the php also
[04:29] <sohmc> i'll side with poningru on this....:-)
[04:30] <BAD-IDEA> but i dont no if i nedd to configure php to work with apache
[04:30] <xerophyte> poningru, so i need to download from the mozilla site and install it just wondering
[04:30] <poningru> xerophyte: no you can use easyubuntu
[04:30] <poningru> !easyubuntu
[04:30] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[04:30] <poningru> err hold on
[04:30] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, http://www.webmonkey.com/webmonkey/programming/php/tutorials/tutorial4.html
[04:30] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, php and apache, if installed using synaptic, should work out of the box
[04:31] <jjjjjjj> firefox is opening in a terminal.  when i change System >Preferences>Preferred Applications... my custom firefox %s does not stay.  :(
[04:31] <poningru> xerophyte: yeah you have to download from the website
[04:31] <poningru> !ff1.5
[04:31] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:31] <harfooz> poningru, hey I think I may have found the problem! I am going to install linux-restricted-modules-686.
[04:31] <jjjjjjj> been there done that
[04:31] <BAD-IDEA> sohmc yes i installed using synaptic but i have problems
[04:31] <poningru> jjjjjjj: whats the prob?
[04:32] <Al-Daja> i get ircd from synaptic pack manager but i try to find it, and it wasn't in anyplace, what i'm doing wrong?
[04:32] <Def775975> hello
[04:32] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, okay...let's make sure everything is installed correctly.  paste your apache2 config
[04:32] <sohmc> !past
[04:32] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, sohmc
[04:32] <sohmc> !paste
[04:32] <ubotu> well, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[04:32] <jjjjjjj> if i right click  a link here... ff opens in terminal mode
[04:33] <poningru> jjjjjjj: what do you mean terminal mode?
[04:33] <jjjjjjj> like the old lynx browser
[04:33] <sohmc> where can I get a list of ubotu ! commands?
[04:33] <jjjjjjj> all text... not in the ff app
[04:33] <poningru> Al-Daja: what language do you speak?
[04:33] <poningru> !blsh
[04:33] <ubotu> poningru: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:33] <poningru> sohmc: that link
[04:33] <edulix> hi !
[04:33] <amphi> sohmc: /msg ubotu listkeys foo will list all the factoids pertaining to 'foo'
[04:33] <BAD-IDEA> !past
[04:33] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, BAD-IDEA
[04:33] <curley_sue> I need HELP - my auto mount does no longer work!
[04:34] <edulix> I'm trying to install k3b but it says that it depends in some libs it can't install. I'm using dapper
[04:34] <edulix> for example it says it needs  kdelibs4c2 but it's not available
[04:34] <Zoroaster> how do I start webmin?
[04:34] <edulix> but kdelibs4c2a is available
[04:34] <edulix> same happens with libmusicbrainz4c2 and libmusicbrainz4c2a
[04:34] <sohmc> thanks poningru and amphi
[04:34] <Zoroaster> I installed it for samba, but I can't invoke it
[04:34] <xerophyte> Poningru how can i install easyUbuntu because i am having problem checkingout  from svn which give me connection refused
[04:34] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, how's it coming?
[04:34] <edulix> what's that a thingie?
[04:34] <poningru> !tell xerophyte about easyubuntu
[04:34] <poningru> xerophyte: follow that link
[04:34] <jjjjjjj> well i'll try reinstalling.... ?  thx
[04:35] <poningru> xerophyte: oh wait stop
[04:35] <pm> happy doughnut everyone!!!!!
[04:35] <poningru> xerophyte: that doesnt have firefox on it
[04:35] <BAD-IDEA> sohmc i dont no which file
[04:35] <harfooz> poningru, that fixed it! I just needed the linux-restricted-modules-686 package when I moved to the 686 linux-image! Woo Hoo!
[04:35] <larsemil> anyone got a good page that is like art.gnome.org for backgroundimages?
[04:35] <poningru> harfooz: awesome
[04:35] <xerophyte> poningru, how do i instlal i have removed the automatix now and firefox need to install back
[04:35] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA, /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[04:36] <sohmc> !tell BAD-IDEA about paste
[04:36] <poningru> !tell xerophyte abotu firefox1.5
[04:36] <poningru> wtf
[04:36] <poningru> !ff1.5
[04:36] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:36] <we2by_> !help
[04:36] <poningru> xerophyte: also go into your home directory and rename .mozilla into REALmozilla
[04:37] <poningru> we2by_: whats wrong dude?
[04:37] <poningru> xerophyte: thats to back up your profile
[04:37] <we2by_> nothing
[04:37] <we2by_> !topic
[04:37] <BAD-IDEA> sohmc i paste the entire file
[04:37] <poningru> xerophyte: nm follow the instructions on that page
[04:37] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA:: yeah...once you do, send me the link
[04:38] <we2by_>  16:38:01 up  4:53,  2 users,  load average: 0.08, 0.25, 0.29
[04:38] <sohmc> !firefox
[04:38] <BAD-IDEA> sohmc http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9187
[04:38] <Niekie> !xen
[04:38] <ubotu> methinks xen is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/ .
[04:38] <we2by_> !network
[04:38] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[04:38] <we2by_> !network monitoring
[04:38] <ubotu> we2by_: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:38] <poningru> we2by_: if you want to play with ubotu go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:38] <ailean> I am having problems with applications blocking the sound card for other apps.  How can I set it up so that multiple applications can use the sound card at the same time?
[04:38] <poningru> dont crowd this channel pelease
[04:39] <poningru> ailean: hold on let me get the link
[04:39] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA:: try uncommenting lines 334 and 335 and then restart apache
[04:39] <ailean> thanks poningru
[04:39] <GTX> Guy's where is the apt-get source list located?
[04:39] <jjjjjjj> good q: gtx
[04:39] <sohmc> GTX:: you mean on your computer?
[04:39] <poningru> !sources
[04:39] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:40] <poningru> err thats not it
[04:40] <GTX> poningru, I need the command line..
[04:40] <mikelo> anybody know where i can get good open source free hosting?
[04:40] <GTX> sohmc, in command line yes
[04:40] <sohmc> GTX:: /etc/apt/list.sources I think
[04:40] <GTX> ta
[04:40] <GTX> neg
[04:40] <GTX> Its not that
[04:41] <Al-Daja> i get ircd from synaptic pack manager but i try to find it, and it wasn't in anyplace, what i'm doing wrong?
[04:41] <hatake_kakashi> sources.list
[04:41] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA:: how's it going?
[04:42] <jjjjjjj> !ff1.5
[04:42] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:42] <poningru> GTX: what sohmc listed is it except with a minor change:  /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:43] <mikelo> anybody know where i can get good open source free hosting?
[04:43] <danychouinard> i want to change the number of member of an existing raid device and keeps my data
[04:43] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA:: check /etc/apache2/mods-available to see if the php module is there
[04:43] <poningru> sohmc: dude communitiy channel: #ubuntu-offtopic #ubuntuforums etc. if you ever wanna just hang out
[04:43] <poningru> ailean: hmm I cant find the link hold on
[04:43] <sohmc> mikelo:: try sourceforge
[04:43] <trappist> bug 23018 has been fixed for some time but nobody's closed it.
[04:44] <sohmc> poningru:: am I not being on topic?  I appologize if I am...I"m trying to help BAD-IDEA
[04:44] <trappist> oops wrong channel
[04:44] <LjL> is there anything i should know for using a GeForce FX5200 with the best driver, except what's in the BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?
[04:44] <poningru> sohmc: hehe no dude
[04:44] <LjL> i mean besides
[04:44] <poningru> I was just welcoming you to the community
[04:44] <sabbar> hallo
[04:44] <sohmc> poningru:: ah...sorry...I didn't read the second line...:-)
[04:45] <sohmc> poningru:: thanks for the invite
[04:45] <sabbar> what is it
[04:45] <BAD-IDEA> sohmc its the same
[04:45] <ailean> no rush poningru :)
[04:45] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA:: what's the same>?
[04:45] <BAD-IDEA> i uncommented the lines restarted apache
[04:45] <BAD-IDEA> when i go to http://localhost/testphp.php its opens dialog box to download the file
[04:45] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA:: check /etc/apache2/mods-available to see if the php module is there
[04:46] <LjL> hmm also, is my FX5200 a "legacy" cards (i.e. a GeForce 1 or 2), which needs nvidia-gfx-legacy? (i really know zero about video)
[04:46] <Kyral> LjL: if it is then I shouldn't be using NVidia-GLX because I run the FX5500 :P
[04:46] <BAD-IDEA> sohmc :) no
[04:46] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA:: ah....you'll need to install php5
[04:47] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA:: apt-get install php5
[04:47] <curley_sue> I need HELP - my auto mount does no longer work!
[04:47] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA:: errr...  sudo apt-get install php6
[04:47] <sohmc> AHH!!
[04:47] <BAD-IDEA> sohmc how do i do whith synaptic
[04:47] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA:: errr...  sudo apt-get install php5
[04:47] <LjL> Kyral: hm? i'm not getting you, do you mean the binary driver wouldn't work?
[04:47] <sohmc> BAD-IDEA:: open synaptic and search for php5
[04:48] <mikelo> anybody have any idea on using gmailfs?
[04:48] <Seveas> sohmc, that won't help...
[04:48] <poningru> ailean: lets try something
[04:48] <ailean> yep poningru
[04:48] <sohmc> Seveas:: what won't help?
[04:48] <danychouinard> where could i go to get help with mdadm
[04:48] <Seveas> BAD-IDEA, apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 (or libapache-mod-php5 if you useapache1)
[04:48] <Kyral> LjL: I mean that if the FX5200 is considered Legacy, then my FX5500 should be as well, but I use the normal driver. It was my playful way of saying that the normal driver should work
[04:48] <Seveas> sohmc, the php package installs just the commind line tool
[04:48] <poningru> ailean: go into system->pref
[04:49] <poningru> and click multimedia selector
[04:49] <ailean> should i be using Gnome then poningru ?
[04:49] <poningru> ailean: oh
[04:49] <poningru> you are using kde?
[04:49] <LjL> Kyral: oh, i see... it's just that i didn't even know the fx5200 and 5500 were comparable and how, you see, i've been using matrox cards with 16 megs of memory until now ;)
[04:49] <ailean> poningru, at the moment yes
[04:49] <poningru> hold on then
[04:49] <ailean> poningru, i can change over though
[04:49] <Kyral> LjL: *SHUDDER*
[04:50] <ailean> poningru, but i would be mostly be using kde
[04:50] <BAD-IDEA> sohmc i synaptic is php5-imap and php5-syck i cant find other
[04:50] <terracorp> Hy who can help me setup my tv tuner on ubuntu???????????/
[04:50] <poningru> ailean: no hold on let me see
[04:50] <ailean> poningru, k
[04:50] <Kyral> BAD-IDEA: open a term and do the command Seveas said (but with Sudo on front)
[04:51] <xerophyte> poningru, how can i remove the firefox which is installed using automatix ??
[04:51] <Kyral> ....Firefox is installed by default
[04:51] <LjL> the binary driver howto for nvidia instructs (point 16) to close all applications and press cltr+alt+backspace to restart X. perhaps suggesting to logout would be a better idea?
[04:51] <bbc|destructive> Hi, is there a german Ubuntu channel????
[04:51] <Seveas> !de
[04:51] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[04:51] <poningru> !also
[04:51] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, poningru
[04:51] <poningru> err
[04:51] <Kyral> LjL: No, logging out just brings you to GDM, it doesn't restart X
[04:51] <poningru> !alsa
[04:51] <sohmc> Seveas:: I was looking to see how I installed the apache module...couldn't remember for the life of me
[04:51] <ubotu> well, alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[04:52] <interferon> i use ubuntu on my personal computers, but is there anything that it would offer over debian for a web/email server?
[04:52] <poningru> ailean: found it
[04:52] <poningru> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[04:52] <Seveas> interferon, security updates
[04:52] <LjL> Kyral: hm, though it does look like X is being restarted, given the screen flicker...
[04:52] <poningru> ubotu: botsnack
[04:52] <ubotu> :)
[04:52] <Seveas> (and yes, there is debian-security too, but don't make me laugh...)
[04:52] <Kyral> LjL: do CTRL+ALT+Backspace and notice the difference
[04:52] <ailean> poningru, so this will show me how to do it then
[04:52] <Formidable> MAke him laugh!
[04:52] <Formidable> make him laugh!
[04:52] <BAD-IDEA> Kyral Package libapache2-mod-php5 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:52] <poningru> ailean: yep
[04:53] <Kyral> you should breifly see the Virtual Terminals
[04:53] <ailean> poningru, thanks :)
[04:53] <Kyral> !info libapache2-mod-php5 breezy
[04:53] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-2ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1824 kB, Installed size: 3980 kB
[04:53] <BAD-IDEA> !info libapache2-mod-php5 breezy
[04:53] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-2ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1824 kB, Installed size: 3980 kB
[04:53] <Kyral> BAD-IDEA: do you have all the repos enabled?
[04:54] <LjL> Kyral: i'll pay attention to it. anyway, i think i'll change the howto so that it says to logout and *then* press ctrl+alt+bksp, i think if would be generally better anyway... i mean, if there's not need to restart X forcibly while Gnome/KDE is open, it should be avoided
[04:54] <poningru> ailean: err hold on that uses gnome too at the last step
[04:54] <poningru> Seveas: how do you change the default sound sink using cli?
[04:54] <ailean> poningru, does it make a difference then?
[04:54] <BAD-IDEA> whats repos ? im new to Ubuntu
[04:54] <Kyral> LjL: actually they have no problem with it
[04:54] <Kyral> !repos
[04:54] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:54] <poningru> ailean: follow the instructions till the very last step
[04:54] <ailean> k
[04:54] <javiolo> are there the same packages to 386 available on ppc ?
[04:54] <ailean> poningru, will you be around for a bit then?
[04:54] <poningru> ailean: yep
[04:55] <Kyral> javiolo: not of some things. Some things just haven't been ported to PPC
[04:55] <poningru> javiolo: yeah the ones in main and universe
[04:55] <LjL> Kyral: well there might be applications that don't save all their settings if they're not asked to shutdown... of course it does say to close all "applications", but what's an application? is something in the system tray an "application"? most users probably don't think so
[04:55] <ailean> poningru, you're a great help :)
[04:55] <Kyral> LjL: *shrugs* Most of my apps haven't cared lol
[04:55] <poningru> javiolo: the ones in restricted/multiverse may or may not be there
[04:55] <Seveas> poningru, no idea, never had to do that
[04:55] <javiolo> how about backports and others ?
[04:56] <poningru> Seveas: do you know how to do it in kde?
[04:56] <LjL> Seveas: has debian's security gotten so bad? i think it used to be quite valued
[04:56] <Kyral> javiolo: Ehh I honestly don't know, I don't use PPC :P
[04:56] <Seveas> poningru, there's no KDE on any of my machines
[04:56] <poningru> hehe
[04:56] <Seveas> LjL, it's terribly slow...
[04:56] <foxpaul> does anyone have an idea how i use svn revert to skip back to revision 12, or whatever?
[04:56] <LjL> Kyral: yeah, i've done that innumerable times too and nothing bad ever happened :) it's just a matter of the howto saying "the right thing"
[04:56] <Kyral> LjL: then its the right thing :P
[04:57] <LjL> Seveas: yeah someone was just saying that yesterday. but it didn't always used to be that way did it?
[04:58] <Seveas> LjL, don't know exactly - I never felt really comfortable with the d-s speed
[04:58] <nebula> when I try to login as root I type "su -" and then I type my password, it says athentication failed
[04:58] <_jason> ubotu: tell nebula about root
[04:58] <foxpaul> anyone?
[04:59] <LjL> Seveas: well it's a pity, debian's such a fine distribution otherwise. then of course ubuntu can be a good alternative for anybody who'd like to use debian, but still
[05:00] <ailean> ok poningru i'm at the last step
[05:00] <xerophyte>  what does /opt stands
[05:00] <snowblink> foxpaul, you probably want svn merge
[05:00] <poningru> ailean: in the konsole type in 'gstreamer-properties'
[05:00] <poningru> and press enter
[05:00] <LjL> Seveas: i guess it's just another instance of debian's excessive perfectionism =)
[05:01] <Seveas> LjL, and abundance of ego
[05:01] <Seveas> (but let's not start that discussion here, #ubuntu-offtopic if you insist)
[05:01] <poningru> xerophyte: thats a folder where the distro doesnt put anything
[05:01] <Kyral> xerophyte: its a directory that has been traditionally used for software not installed by the package managers (like locally compiled programs). Most likely stands for "Optional" and serves the same function as /usr/local
[05:01] <ailean> poningru, okay
[05:01] <poningru> xerophyte: what Kyral said
[05:01] <LjL> Seveas: nah, i'll reboot in a moment to test the new graphics drivers
[05:01] <poningru> ailean: does a window popup?
[05:02] <ailean> poningru, yep i have a window, do i just follow the instructions as they are, or do i do something else?
[05:02] <poningru> ailean: nope follow the instructions
[05:02] <ailean> poningru, k :)
[05:04] <fdr> hello... I would like to know more about Dapper and maybe download it to give it a try, but unfortunately I can't find the project main webpage, could you please point it to me? thanks
[05:04] <ailean> thanks poningru - i'm going to restart
[05:04] <poningru> fdr: ??
[05:04] <poningru> fdr: what do you mean?
[05:04] <ufo> how do i add things from /etc/init.d/ to start automatic
[05:04] <poningru> !flight4
[05:04] <ubotu> flight4 is the current Dapper development build.  See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight4
[05:06] <fdr> poningru: that one, thanks. Is it linked from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ ? I couldn't find it...
[05:06] <poningru> fdr: yeah ofcourse
[05:06] <poningru> fdr: do you want to update to dapper?
[05:06] <poningru> fdr: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html
[05:07] <jimcooncat> looking for tips on workarounds for copy/paste of graphics?
[05:07] <fdr> poningru: I have a spare virtual machine and would like to try all the goodies who are to come with the next ubuntu stable :-)
[05:07] <Oli> Hello, I have a problem with cedega on unbunto (Breezy) - ython2.4-gtk2
[05:08] <Oli> "Unable to load GTK2 Python bindings but I've that package installed
[05:08] <poningru> fdr: awesome
[05:08] <fdr> poningru: why awesome? :)
[05:08] <Al-Daja> where i can know the files related to wxWidgets
[05:08] <poningru> fdr: more testers == better software
[05:08] <aaronshaf> Why doesn't Ubuntu/gnome have an interace for dual monitors like Redhat / KDE?
[05:10] <ufo> aaronshaf: ati does
[05:10] <poningru> aaronshaf: it will in the next release
[05:10] <Al-Daja> where i can know the files related to wxWidgets
[05:10] <ufo> poningru: in dapper
[05:10] <aaronshaf> When, tentatively, is the next release?
[05:11] <jah_raztah> in dapper i try to add files to sepertine but it doesn't add any mp3 or even ogg files
[05:11] <poningru> ufo: yes
[05:11] <poningru> aaronshaf: april
[05:11] <poningru> and its certain
[05:11] <poningru> not tentative
[05:11] <aaronshaf> thanks
[05:11] <poningru> jah_raztah: #ubuntu+1
[05:11] <ailean> hey poningru, did all that and sound is working through alsa
[05:12] <ailean> poningru, but i can't get sound from skype while xmms is playing
[05:12] <xerophyte> my sounds is not working .. i found  some guide somewhree but i could not find it now
[05:12] <fdr> poningru: just a curiosity... how do I get from wiki.ubuntu.com to the flight4 page? I still fail to see the link :)
[05:12] <poningru> ailean: hmm really?
[05:12] <larsemil> xerophyte, there are like hundreds in the ubuntuforums.
[05:12] <poningru> fdr: search for flight 4 on the search bar
[05:12] <ailean> poningru, let me try something else
[05:13] <poningru> !tell xerophyte about alsa
[05:13] <ailean> poningru, but totem works alongside xmms
[05:13] <Angel_Dex> anyone know how to run oneko?
[05:13] <poningru> ailean: I am guessing its a skype prob
[05:13] <ailean> poningru, i think it's because skype is looking for /dev/dsp
[05:13] <poningru> ailean: why are you using skype?  try using ekiga or something
[05:14] <poningru> ailean: isnt that where your sound card is?
[05:14] <ailean> poningru, yeah, but shouldn't the traffic be directed towards the mixer rather than directly to the card?
[05:14] <ufo> poningru: is ekiga skype compatible
[05:14] <poningru> ufo: not yet
[05:14] <poningru> ufo: they are working on it
[05:14] <ailean> yeah, until it is i'll need to use skype poningru
[05:14] <ufo> poningru: ok... thx
[05:15] <Angel_Dex> anyone>
[05:15] <poningru> ailean: no if the software wants to acess the sound hardware directly its allowed iirc, I could be wrong
[05:15] <ailean> poningru, i don't want my music to stop the phone from ringing obviously
[05:15] <ailean> hmm
[05:15] <poningru> yeah I thought those instructions would fix that
[05:15] <poningru> hold on
[05:16] <ailean> poningru, there's a note fiurther down the page you gave me that said to type "modprobe -v snd-pcm-oss"
[05:16] <ailean> poningru, didn't help, but then I didn't restart - would I need to?
[05:16] <jjjjjjj> goin for dapper
[05:17] <knubbe> is there any other client than skype that can reach skype's protocol?
[05:17] <poningru> ailean: here we go
[05:17] <ailean> k
[05:18] <poningru> ailean: yeah try that
[05:18] <poningru> and restart
[05:18] <Webx> how do i list all installed programs?
[05:18] <poningru> Webx: you can do it in apt, but just go to synaptic and find them all
[05:19] <ailean> k, restarting
[05:19] <Webx> poningru: isnt it some command for it?
[05:19] <Angel_Dex> anyone know how to run oneko?
[05:19] <Mwafrika> Somebody help me install Mplayer?
[05:19] <iBalo> Webx: dpkg -l
[05:19] <Webx> that works for debian systems right?
[05:19] <poningru> oh true
[05:20] <poningru> Webx: ubuntu is a debian based system
[05:20] <Webx> just checking =) thanks
[05:20] <poningru> Mwafrika: apt-get install mplayer
[05:20] <iBalo> since it's a _d_pkg....
[05:20] <Zoroaster> evolution crashes on my computer
[05:20] <Zoroaster> I am using it to connect to exchange
[05:20] <Mwafrika> Poninguru: it cant find the installation files
[05:21] <Zoroaster> I am wondering, can Evo be uninstalled and reinstalled, and is that a good step for trying to fix my problem
[05:21] <cblboy> hello?
[05:21] <cblboy> having problems with a dual boot
[05:21] <cblboy> can anyone help
[05:22] <Mwafrika> Poningru: After running few lines its says package has no candidate
[05:22] <Zoroaster> does anyone know how I can install MS Internet Explorer on Ubuntu 5.10?
[05:22] <poningru> Mwafrika: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin
[05:22] <jodanlime> cblboy, whats the problemo?
[05:23] <poningru> Zoroaster: hehe you cant
[05:23] <cblboy> dual boot with xp sp2
[05:23] <cblboy> have internet
[05:23] <iBalo> Zoroaster: you could try to reinstall but it won't fix anything most of the time
[05:23] <cblboy> but no other network connections
[05:23] <jodanlime> Zoroaster, why would you want to
[05:23] <Zoroaster> I know, I just wanted to see if I was invisible
[05:23] <yacc> Zoroaster: By CrossOver Office, it might support even that sick thing.
[05:23] <cblboy> can disjoin network
[05:23] <jodanlime> whats the internet problem?
[05:23] <Zoroaster> jodanlime, thanks
[05:23] <Angel_Dex> EWWWWWW IE
[05:23] <cblboy> cnt
[05:23] <cblboy> cant
[05:23] <Mwafrika> poningru: Im kind of new... how do i past the list on the pastbin?
[05:23] <poningru> oh sorry
[05:23] <cblboy> no network resources
[05:23] <poningru> !pastebin
[05:23] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[05:24] <Zoroaster> I was just playing on the IE explorer thing
[05:24] <jodanlime> what internet?
[05:24] <poningru> Mwafrika: you have acces to the list right?
[05:24] <jodanlime> Zoroaster, kay, thats good
[05:24] <poningru> Mwafrika: err as in you know how to access the list right?
[05:24] <jodanlime> cblboy, is it dial up?
[05:24] <Mwafrika> Poningru: Yes i have access its my computer just intalled Ubuntu
[05:24] <danychouinard> ie in wine : http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/
[05:24] <poningru> cool
[05:24] <poningru> danychouinard: did not know that
[05:25] <ideafix> whats the difrence betwen installing from expresso versus the regular install iso ?
[05:25] <ailean> poningru, still not working . . . i don't know what to do. but i bet i'm annoying you now
[05:25] <Alexi5> hello
[05:25] <cblboy> no no
[05:25] <cblboy> at work
[05:25] <cblboy> in my office
[05:25] <ailean> poningru, although it's great to have at least SOME apps mixing
[05:25] <cblboy> on a test pc
[05:25] <cblboy> dual boot
[05:25] <poningru> ailean: its cool
[05:25] <poningru> ailean: hold on
[05:25] <danychouinard> yeah, look for the sidenet wine Configuration Utility
[05:25] <ailean> poningru, so thanks very much
[05:25] <richard_> how can i start my modem? ubunto doesn't detect?
[05:26] <Angel_Dex> why will no one help me TT_TT
[05:26] <iBalo> richard_: is it a winmodem (builtin device)?
[05:26] <poningru> ailean: http://alsa.opensrc.org/OssEmulation
[05:26] <poningru> do that
[05:26] <poningru> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype
[05:26] <poningru> that explains at the end
[05:26] <jodanlime> cblboy, if its ethernet it should automatically config itself when you install it, if its dial up theres some work, if you go to system>administration> networking it might help
[05:27] <ailean> poningru, i'll give it a shot :)
[05:27] <Alexi5> are there are there any python modules for emacs
[05:27] <chaz_> anyone know what compiler ubuntu uses?
[05:27] <MrKeuner> hi, I have lost snap windows capability in gnome. When I pres ctrl+alt button and select a window to move it does not snap to borders anymore. Did I unintentiaonlly enable/disabe something?
[05:27] <cblboy> yeah, the ubuntu install is fine
[05:27] <cblboy> its the windows install now
[05:27] <poningru> chaz_: gcc4.0 for the dev
[05:27] <cblboy> that has no access to any network resources
[05:27] <jodanlime> huh
[05:27] <richard_> iBalo: i think is a win modem
[05:27] <iBalo> !winmodem
[05:27] <ubotu> hmm... winmodem is To get started with winmodems on linux, see http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[05:27] <jodanlime> never heard of that before
[05:27] <cblboy> cant even take it out of the domain to put in workgroup
[05:27] <chaz_> I cant locate a make util
[05:27] <angryfix> If you have two versions of java installed (1.4 and 1.5), how can you tell Ubuntu which version to use as the default?
[05:27] <poningru> MrKeuner: did you try xgl?
[05:28] <_jason> ubotu: tell angryfix about multijava
[05:28] <jodanlime> richard_, win modems are not good, try going to linuxant
[05:28] <MrKeuner> poningru/ no
[05:28] <Alexi5> why does kubuntu looks so crapy comapred to ubuntu
[05:28] <_jason> Alexi5: looks depend on theming really
[05:28] <Mwafrika> Poningru Please let me know.... how to past the list
[05:28] <iBalo> Alexi5: the problem starts with letter k and ends with de :D
[05:29] <jodanlime> cblboy, I know pcworld.com had an article on networking win,lin,mac computers together, might want to check there
[05:29] <angryfix> thanks _jason
[05:29] <MrKeuner> oh now I figured. I have given shift+alt to change keyboard job. that was why...
[05:29] <MrKeuner> what is a good combination to change keyboard layout?
[05:30] <poningru> Mwafrika: oh follow that guide
[05:30] <poningru> hold on
[05:30] <poningru> !tell Mwafrika about pastebin
[05:31] <xxenon> !restricted
[05:31] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:31] <Mwafrika> Poningru: Thanks let me try
[05:31] <Angel_Dex> hmpf
[05:31] <Angel_Dex> !oneko
[05:31] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Angel_Dex
[05:31] <Oli> does anyone run cedega (the time trial) on ubuntu? (Breezy Badger) - I have GTK2 bindigs issue - but sounds all installed maybe I still missing something?
[05:33] <poningru> Angel_Dex: sorry dude I have no idea what oneko is
[05:33] <Angel_Dex> poningru its in the repos its supose to be a rendition of Neko98 thatwas for windows its in the repos
[05:33] <jjjjjjj> hey ubotu can you put this in your database? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-January/014700.html
[05:34] <xxenon> in dapper, is mp3 support still provided by gstreamer0.8-mad ?
[05:34] <iBalo> no
[05:34] <Mwafrika> Poningru: I have just pasted.... my Name is Mwafrika in the pastebin
[05:34] <xxenon> iBalo - that explains why I cant get mp3 working ..
[05:34] <poningru> Mwafrika: can you get the link?
[05:35] <iBalo> getraemer is at 0.10 there and there's a gstreamer-'bad' metapackage
[05:35] <_jason> jjjjjjj: where do you want him to put it
[05:35] <poningru> ubotu: dapper
[05:35] <ubotu> hmm... dapper is the pre-release name for the next version of Ubuntu, the release will be called 6.04. It is due 20th April. It is software in development and as such may break.  join #ubuntu+1 to talk about it
[05:35] <cblboy___>  so no one else has had problems with their original windows network connections after installing ubuntu?
[05:35] <xxenon> iBalo - which one provide mp3 support then ?
[05:35] <jjjjjjj> I don't know?  where ever he gets all those other links from i guess.
[05:36] <poningru> ubotu: dapper is also use http://tinyurl.com/rtgxo for easy updates
[05:36] <_jason> jjjjjjj: you tell him 'foo is bar', then when people do !foo, he says bar.  Just make sure it's useful info
[05:36] <ubotu> poningru: okay
[05:36] <poningru> ubotu: daper
[05:36] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, poningru
[05:36] <poningru> ubotu: dapper
[05:36] <poningru> awesome
[05:36] <Mwafrika> Poningru: i think..... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9188
[05:36] <_jason> heh now it's too long
[05:36] <poningru> Mwafrika: yep
[05:36] <poningru> Mwafrika: sorry what was your problem again?
[05:37] <iBalo> xxenon: read through the gstreamer 0.10 package list... you'll notice
[05:37] <poningru> oh yeah mplayer
[05:37] <poningru> Mwafrika: hmm do this
[05:38] <poningru> sudo apt-get update
[05:38] <Mwafrika> Poningru: Was trying to install Mplayer... it look like it failed to find files and at the last line it said E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[05:38] <poningru> give that command and tell me if it gives any errors
[05:39] <poningru> if no errors then try apt-get install mplayer again
[05:39] <Mwafrika> Poningru: Im waiting....
[05:39] <poningru> for?
[05:39] <xxenon> iBalo - cant find anything, no.
[05:40] <Mwafrika> Poningru: u said mhhh do this then u didnt explain
[05:40] <poningru> [11:38:09]  poningru sudo apt-get update
[05:40] <poningru> sure I did
[05:40] <poningru> sudo apt-get update
[05:40] <Mwafrika> ooh ok
[05:40] <Mwafrika> let me try that.... thanks man
[05:40] <poningru> yep
[05:41] <MrKeuner> will there be xgl in dapper?
[05:41] <ufo> MrKeuner: there is allready
[05:41] <lucasvo> MrKeuner: depends on your help
[05:41] <lucasvo> MrKeuner: ;-)
[05:41] <wastrel> meh
[05:42] <MrKeuner> lucasvo/ my help? I am honored
[05:42] <Mwafrika> Poningru: here is my last line..... E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[05:42] <jjjjjjj> anyone here upgraded to dapper?
[05:42] <Mwafrika> i doubt if everything is ok there
[05:42] <_jason> jjjjjjj: #ubuntu+1
[05:42] <MrKeuner> ufo/ I tried to meant if it will ship with that by default?
[05:43] <jjjjjjj> th
[05:43] <jjjjjjj> x
[05:43] <xxenon> how do I get mp3 support in dapper ?
[05:43] <poningru> Mwafrika: hmm
[05:43] <Ng> xxenon: pretty much the same as in breezy
[05:43] <poningru> Mwafrika: you are using hoary dude
[05:43] <lucasvo> MrKeuner: yes, Linux lives from the help of the users
[05:43] <Josh1> Does anyone know why gmail has suddenly stopped working on my computer, and all the computers in LAN? Works with other people im talking to on MSN, and gmail notify "sees" the inbox.
[05:44] <xxenon> Ng - nope, doesnt work.
[05:44] <MrKeuner> does suse ship with xgl by default?
[05:44] <_jason> MrKeuner: try #suse maybe
[05:44] <Mwafrika> i doubt if everything is ok there
[05:44] <MrKeuner> lucasvo/ linux is the name of the kernel you know. but you are still right
[05:44] <Ng> xxenon: well dapper is a development branch, so it's unpredictably broken at any one time, but yes, it is the same process as breezy, you just adjust for the new gstreamer package names
[05:44] <poningru> Mwafrika: dude they have stopped supporting hoary
[05:44] <Mwafrika> Ok
[05:45] <poningru> Mwafrika: you have to update to breazy
[05:45] <Mwafrika> so what i do now?
[05:45] <Mwafrika> What do you advice me to do?
[05:45] <Cyorxamp> If I just edited the smb.conf file for a new share - do i need to restart samba? if so - how ?
[05:46] <xxenon> Ng - well nm...I play them with mplayer, it's ok.
[05:46] <poningru> Mwafrika: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[05:46] <poningru> backup your stuff
[05:47] <poningru> and upgrade
[05:47] <Mwafrika> yeah.... let me check
[05:47] <Mwafrika> i dont have much 4to update
[05:47] <ailean> poningru, i got it working
[05:47] <wastrel> Cyorxamp:  probably something like  sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[05:47] <Josh1> Does anyone know why gmail has suddenly stopped working on my computer, and all the computers in LAN? Works with other people im talking to on MSN, and gmail notify "sees" the inbox.
[05:47] <poningru> ailean: sweet did that page help at all?
[05:48] <ailean> poningru, but i need to prefix the command with aoss
[05:48] <ailean> poningru, yeah, the page helped
[05:48] <weareallone> hello wise ones, maybe ule be willing to help on this issue-> i can't network with my roommate after he installed ubuntu as well
[05:48] <poningru> awesome
[05:48] <poningru> weareallone: what are you trying to do?
[05:48] <ailean> poningru, all i'll need to do is change all my commands on the start menu for programs that use oss instead of alsa
[05:48] <ailean> poningru, so thanks a lot for pointing me in the right direction
[05:48] <poningru> ailean: yp
[05:48] <weareallone> network in my house
[05:49] <weareallone> poningru: both using ubuntu
[05:49] <poningru> weareallone: any routers?
[05:49] <Angel_Dex> is Metacity the WM?
[05:49] <weareallone> yes
[05:49] <poningru> Angel_Dex: yes
[05:49] <Angel_Dex> poningru there is lighter ones no?
[05:49] <poningru> Angel_Dex: yes
[05:49] <poningru> many
[05:50] <weareallone> poningru: yes
[05:50] <poningru> weareallone: then whats the prob?
[05:50] <Angel_Dex> poningru Ok what will i loose if i move to a lighter one?
[05:50] <poningru> Angel_Dex: depends on what you move to
[05:50] <Mwafrika> Poningru: I think updating to breezy is like doing a fresh installation?
[05:50] <Angel_Dex> poningru what do you use?
[05:50] <weareallone> poningru: ask for password to access network, but is not my password
[05:50] <poningru> Mwafrika: no it keeps your data
[05:51] <poningru> weareallone: you have to create a shared folder for that
[05:51] <Mwafrika> Poningru: There is a warning... but it a good step to take.... it will increase my knowledge
[05:51] <poningru> Mwafrika: yeah
[05:51] <poningru> Mwafrika: make sure to backup your data
[05:51] <poningru> weareallone: go into system->admin->shared folder
[05:52] <Puff-n-Stuff> anybody use the wintv pvr-350 or pvr-250 with dapper yet?  uses the driver module and wants me to put the firmware in the hotplug firmware directory but I can't find a hotplug firmware directory.
[05:52] <weareallone> poningru: yes
[05:52] <poningru> weareallone: follow the instructions
[05:52] <tortoise> Does anyone know how to enable firewire to act as a network interface?
[05:52] <butze> i just installed dapper and xgl - it works, but i have garbelt graphics when i scroll as well as in the gnome-panel - till i wobble, than all looks fine - someone has the same issue?
[05:53] <poningru> butze: #ubuntu-xgl
[05:53] <JTurek> how do you configure ubuntu for a static ip in console
[05:53] <Mwafrika> Poningru: I think i can only use the CD (which i dont have) cause the terminal command wouldint work as they do refer to source.list to make andy downloads
[05:53] <mikelo> my games are running a lot slower since i started messing around with my video card can anybody help me out?
[05:53] <Draconicus> I've just upgraded my laptop to Dapper Flight 4 via the upgrade, and everything seems to work so far apart from the gscreensaver. 90% of the screensavers won't work. Has anyone else had this problem?
[05:53] <Angel_Dex> poningru ?
[05:53] <ompaul> folks please take dapper conversations to #ubuntu+1
[05:53] <Draconicus> Okay.
[05:54] <Puff-n-Stuff> thanks ompaul ...will do..
[05:54] <ompaul> Puff-n-Stuff, cheers
[05:54] <weareallone> poningru: i have shared files sharing w/smb...
[05:55] <weareallone> poningru: settings?
[05:55] <JTurek> is there a utility to configure the network?
[05:55] <poningru> weareallone: hmm
[05:55] <poningru> weareallone: hold on
[05:55] <weareallone> sorry
[05:55] <jimcooncat> One of the tough parts converting from windows is lack of a graphics capable clipboard. How best to explain to handle graphics to a new Linux user?
[05:55] <weareallone> i half assed know what i'm doin
[05:56] <Mwafrika> Can i parttion my harddisk... install Micro Windows and still work with an existing Ubuntu?
[05:56] <poningru> Mwafrika: yeah ofcourse
[05:56] <poningru> Mwafrika: use dualboot
[05:56] <poningru> !dualboot
[05:56] <ubotu> dualboot is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[05:57] <jimcooncat> Mwafrika, or run Windows in a VMWare player sesson
[05:57] <nuxil> hello people
[05:58] <Mwafrika> jimcooncat: I dont know what is that VMWare player sesson... but let me read about it
[05:58] <jimcooncat> http://www.vmware.com/products/player/
[05:58] <nuxil> i have a Q? im getting myself a new mobo and cpu,, do i need to do i new install.. or will it work on the current one.. im running the stoc kernel tho.. so the modules should be there
[05:58] <poningru> ompaul: can you handle weareallone cause I have no idea
[05:58] <Mwafrika> cool Jimmcooncat
[05:58] <Puff-n-Stuff> vmware player is a a program to allow you to run an os on top of another os...
[05:59] <weareallone> lol
[05:59] <poningru> nuxil: no need to do anything
[05:59] <nuxil> :) good to hear
[05:59] <poningru> weareallone: yeah sorry dude
[05:59] <m0td> Hey guys, does anyone know of a script I could use to convert .flac files to .ogg (or .mp3) and preserve the tags?
[05:59] <nuxil> poningru, ists a 64 bit cpu tho..
[05:59] <poningru> jimcooncat: what do you mean graphical clipboard
[05:59] <m0td> These are id3v2 tags, fyi
[05:59] <poningru> ?
[05:59] <nuxil> does that mattre
[05:59] <weareallone> its saying that i need to log in to access my ip.... thx anyways ponongru
[05:59] <poningru> nuxil: amd64?
[05:59] <nuxil> yep
[06:00] <nuxil> xp 3700+
[06:00] <poningru> nuxil: yeah it will work fine on stock kernel
[06:00] <nuxil> DDD
[06:00] <jimcooncat> poningru, Windows users can copy/paste graphics snippets from one prog to another
[06:00] <ompaul> weareallone, okay, have you got ssh installed?
[06:00] <poningru> jimcooncat: you can do that
[06:00] <poningru> I copy images all the time
[06:00] <weareallone> samba sharing?
[06:00] <weareallone> ompaul: samba?
[06:01] <herrpoons> hi can anyone tell me how i shut off my ubuntu machine via the command line
[06:01] <jimcooncat> Between different apps? Like an image from firefox into a thunderbird email?
[06:01] <Angel_Dex> What should put in my search cri for lighter WMs then metacity
[06:01] <nuxil> shutdown -t now
[06:01] <ompaul> weareallone, that would be a windows thing okay - all I can do there is point you to a howto if you want
[06:01] <herrpoons> thank you!
[06:01] <poningru> jimcooncat: yeah
[06:01] <nuxil> i thik
[06:01] <poningru> just drag and drop
[06:01] <gwongafa> hi all, i'm looking for some help running unreal tournament 2004 on ubuntu
[06:01] <Mwafrika> Poningru: CDs will take month to be shipped to Tanzania.... is there a Breezy download that i can have and excute it from my Ubuntu
[06:02] <poningru> Mwafrika: do you have a cd burner?
[06:02] <poningru> Mwafrika: you can just do the apt way
[06:02] <Mwafrika> Ponigru: Whats the aptway?
[06:02] <weareallone> well, i'm havin the issue now after my roommate switched from windows to ububntu as well, had no prob here when he was still there... a wiki would be great to start with
[06:02] <poningru> hold on
[06:03] <weareallone> ompaul: i forget to address messages, look up 4 my explanation
[06:04] <ompaul> weareallone, I can see it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently <-- if they don't help come back and lets see if there is anything else we can do
[06:04] <poningru> Mwafrika: same page under apt-get
[06:04] <lupz> a good tool for configuring iptables ?
[06:04] <weareallone> ompaul: thx a lot, hpefully i won't be back
[06:05] <mluser-work> Does anyone know of a repository where I can find mplayer?
[06:05] <jimcooncat> poningru, drag and drop works, thanks!
[06:05] <weareallone> ompaul: sorry, that http one more time?
[06:05] <ompaul> poningru, I was about to say -> why not where is the sense of community in that - we just lost our soon to be samba expert :)
[06:05] <poningru> jimcooncat: yep
[06:06] <ompaul> weareallone, :-)  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[06:06] <poningru> ompaul: hehe
[06:06] <weareallone> THX
[06:06] <chaz_> the kernel source for ubuntu is not installed by default is it?
[06:06] <trappist> no
[06:06] <poningru> chaz_: you can get it from the source repo
[06:07] <trappist> but unless you're building your own kernels all you need is linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:07] <ken> Is there a way to recovery a spreadsheet/workbook in Gnumeric?
[06:07] <chaz_> can I install it from add apps?
[06:07] <iftel> can someone help me ? i want to run a eggdrop on my ubuntu, but i got an error with something like "GCC error" can anyone help me pls ?
[06:07] <ompaul> chaz_, the compiler for the kernel is 3.4 and the 4.0 is available from sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:08] <lili> salu
[06:08] <curley_sue> need help - somethings wrong with my desktop - the mounted FAT32 and NTFS no longer appear in Places (even though they are in /media/ AND I've received a warning: "could not grab your mouse. A Malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session"
[06:08] <mluser-work> Does anyone know of a repository where I can find mplayer?
[06:08] <vanessa> alut
[06:08] <vanessa> alu
[06:08] <wastrel> !mplayer
[06:08] <ubotu> I guess mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[06:08] <vivlachaga> hi what is the actual devel version of ubuntu ( the sid for debian)
[06:08] <mluser-work> thanks
[06:08] <Doktorand> hi!
[06:09] <poningru> iftel: do you have build-essential
[06:09] <vanessa> j'capte pas l'anglais
[06:09] <wastrel> !fr
[06:09] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[06:09] <Doktorand> i got a big problem, i want to resize a fat32 partition but ubuntu fails!
[06:09] <vanessa> j'ai pas que a a fair
[06:09] <iftel> poningru, what ?
[06:09] <Doktorand> what else can i do?
[06:09] <vanessa>
[06:10] <vivlachaga> hi what is the actual devel version of ubuntu ( the sid for debian)
[06:10] <vanessa> kiss a tous
[06:10] <poningru> vivlachaga: dapper
[06:10] <vivlachaga> thanks poningru
[06:10] <poningru> Doktorand: what did you use?
[06:10] <Webx> When using grep and dont want to print "false" what do i type?
[06:10] <Angel_Dex> What exactly does meta city do? im kinda at a lose here im use to just worrying about JWM or icewm
[06:10] <Doktorand> pls help, how can it fail resizing the partition???
[06:10] <poningru> Doktorand: use gparted
[06:10] <ompaul> vivlachaga, I was typing an answer, it is talked about in in #ubuntu+1
[06:10] <wastrel> Angel_Dex:  metacity is the windowmanager for gnome
[06:10] <Doktorand> i am in the installing procedure
[06:10] <vanessa> c koi vot age
[06:11] <Angel_Dex> wastrel ok so what does it DO tho? is it responsible for the animations gnome has?
[06:11] <wastrel> Angel_Dex:  the window manager is responsible for placing windows on the display, and drawing window borders, menus, etc.
[06:12] <curley_sue> NEED HELP  -  I've received a warning: "could not grab your mouse. A Malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session" AND somethings wrong with my desktop - the mounted FAT32 and NTFS no longer appear in Places (even though they are in /media/
[06:12] <vanessa> kiz
[06:12] <vanessa> biz
[06:12] <vivlachaga> ompaul, sorry i dont see your answer
[06:12] <Angel_Dex> wastrel Ah Ok So what window manager is lighter but doesnt give up all that stuff?
[06:12] <vanessa> i like you
[06:12] <titi> hi
[06:12] <iftel> poningru, do you have any link with information how to make the eggdrop on ubuntu ?
[06:12] <vanessa> titi c koi ton prnom
[06:13] <titi> ben titi
[06:13] <ompaul>   :)vivlachaga, you asked twice before I got my answer out - to stop you I wrote that but then you got an answer and I just added ->  it is talked about in in #ubuntu+1
[06:13] <titi> et toi ?
[06:13] <vanessa> typhaine
[06:13] <titi> cool
[06:13] <Webx> when using grep how do i "not print" something? loke - in google search?