[09:20] <rmg51> Morning
[12:23] <teddy-dbear> Morning people, critters and everything else
[12:29] <lazyPower> \o


[21:27] <blekos> hi kubuntu does not automount my ntfs drives despite the fact that i have enabled the automount option
[21:28] <blekos> when i click on moun i get a message "system policy prevents.." and asks for psswd
[21:28] <blekos> after i enter the psswd drive(s) are connected ok
[21:32] <etretyak> blekos: whey should automount if you have them in your /etc/fstab
[21:40] <artur__> Hi folks, i have 2 computers, one running de linux ( that will be the server - 2 LAN cards eth0 and eth1) and the other with the MS Win. The one with Linux will receives the internet (will be connected with a cable modem) the other Eth will be connected to another pc (MS Win) with cross-over cable. What should i do to make the other PC access the internet the 'arrives' in the PC (server) running Linux?
[21:41] <clau30> artur__: iptables is your friend :)
[21:41] <clau30> although not that trivial to configure
[21:42] <athlon1> artur, and configure a proxy (squid?).
[21:45] <artur__> =/ oic!
[21:46] <clau30> artur__: try googleing..
[21:48] <artur__> clau30: i will!  Thanks v much!
[21:48] <clau30> no probs & good luc
[21:48] <clau30> k
[21:51] <crs> is there any way to make output of apt-* more readable?
[21:52] <clau30> crs: what do you mean more readable... it is quite readable imho
[21:52] <leftbas> i agree
[21:52] <clau30> use aptitude/adept :)
[21:53] <leftbas> better than make
[21:56] <crs> I mean more colorful and stuff, like paludis or emerge has a brilliant output, showing dependencies trees and stuff
[21:57] <leftbas> afaik, there are no options to change the color of the output
[21:58] <clau30> well apt is not emerge..
[21:59] <leftbas> yeah, but you don't have to wait a package to compile, either
[21:59] <leftbas> so it's a trade-off, i guess
[21:59] <crs> i know, but long list of dependencies is highly unreadable for me. ;/
[22:00] <crs> leftbas: I know. Im not saying about way it works, but output readibility :)
[22:01] <leftbas> crs: gotcha
[22:01] <clau30> crs: maybe use aptitude?
[22:01] <clau30> it actually shows a nice list of dependencies
[22:01] <leftbas> clau30: is that the gtk one?
[22:01] <crs> thats a thing, i prefere to use cmdline one...
[22:01] <clau30> no, console based
[22:02] <crs> oo...
[22:02] <clau30> aptitude is ncurses
[22:02] <clau30> :)
[22:02] <leftbas> oh, it's it's a full screen command-like interface
[22:02] <leftbas> neat-o
[22:02] <leftbas> lol
[22:02] <leftbas> like pine or lynx
[22:02] <clau30> it's actually very cool, a little hard to get used at first, but good at the end
[22:03] <clau30> yea sort of :)
[22:03] <farchord> maaan I wonder, should I take out a small loan to buy a laptop....
[22:03] <farchord> I'm thinking of getting me a Dell
[22:03] <leftbas> you can get good ones for about $500
[22:03] <leftbas> certainly models that'll run linux
[22:03] <farchord> leftbas: Actually the one I was aiming for is about 1200$
[22:04] <leftbas> farchord: that's a bit more - lol
[22:04] <clau30> farchord: do you really need one? can you pay the money back w/o huge .. taxes (or however it's called)
[22:04] <farchord> clau30: interest? well 1200$ is (According to their site) about $32 a month
[22:04] <farchord> altho I'd probably pay closer to 70-100$ myself
[22:04] <leftbas> hey, aptitude is mouse-aware, too...nifty ;)
[22:04] <clau30> that sucks
[22:04] <farchord> considering I can pay it in advance and the faster it is, the best it is
[22:05] <clau30> better put some money aside and then buy one
[22:05] <leftbas> i'm lucky, i "inherited" a nice hp nx9020 from my company ;)
[22:05] <farchord> yeah I'm just really itchin' for one
[22:05] <clau30> leftbas: lol
[22:06] <crs> Hmm, I hate flash. I really do!
[22:06] <crs> It is not working again. ;/
[22:07] <Armagguedes> i have no probs with flash
[22:07] <crs> lucky you :)
[22:07] <Armagguedes> but then again i installed the stuff that's on the Medibuntu's repos
[22:07] <crs> Medibuntu?
[22:07] <Armagguedes> instead of that gnash crap
[22:07] <Armagguedes> yes
[22:07] <Armagguedes> look it up
[22:07] <Armagguedes> very useful
[22:07] <Armagguedes> it's the only 3rd party repository worth having
[22:07] <crs> Armagguedes: Where can i find more info?
[22:07] <Armagguedes> www.medibuntu.com methinks
[22:07] <leftbas> flash works really well for me with firefox, about 90% with konqy
[22:08] <crs> leftbas: konqy here.
[22:08] <Armagguedes> yeah flash in konqueror "works"
[22:08] <clau30> Armagguedes: a little hard to call it "gnash crap".. you have to admire what they're doing
[22:08] <Armagguedes> i didn't say i didn't admire it
[22:08] <leftbas> Armagguedes: it does on my machine at home
[22:08] <navetz> can someone please help me. I have a LAMP server installed but I cannot access localhost when I am offline (I can when I am offline). Can someone please help me fix this
[22:08] <Armagguedes> i could use it, when it works
[22:08] <farchord> leftbas: I had a problem where a flash video would crash firefox (youtube for example) but I think I fixed it
[22:09] <leftbas> farchord: if you're using a version of ubuntu other than the x86 version, it's a tough nut to crack
[22:09] <clau30> navetz: hmm
[22:09] <leftbas> farchord: it never worked for me with the amd version of kubuntu, for instance
[22:09] <clau30> navetz: how do you try to access it?
[22:10] <Armagguedes> actually i think that flash has loads of problems with 64bit processors
[22:10] <navetz> clau30: i have tried <IP_ADDRESS> and http://localhost
[22:10] <farchord> leftbas: maybe you should try to download the x86 firefox? Just a thought?
[22:10] <clau30> navetz: funny.. that should work regardless if you are online or not
[22:10] <leftbas> farchord: i would if i still had that version on my hard drive. i gave it up and went back to the x86 version
[22:10] <farchord> ahh
[22:11] <navetz> clau30: yea I know, its actually really annoying
[22:11] <leftbas> farchord: besides, i like konqy better, and there was too much tweaking to do
[22:11] <clau30> navetz: I would actually need more detail on that but don't really know what :)
[22:11] <farchord> leftbas: I find konqueror buggy and screws up websites
[22:12] <navetz> clau30: I tried a lot of things, even purging apache and reinstalling it but that didn't work.
[22:12] <leftbas> farchord: it's pretty consistently good for me, but there are sites that don't load right. there are sites, though, that konqy will open that ff won't. pretty weird
[22:12] <crs> Armagguedes: but medibuntu doesn't contain flash as I can see now. ;/
[22:13] <farchord> leftbas: yeah.... idk right now I have a pretty comfortable setup.... Kubuntu with most of the apps that I want and need and works, and Virtualbox with XP working in seamless mode for the rest
[22:13] <Armagguedes> not the site itself
[22:13] <Armagguedes> they package Adobe's for ubuntu
[22:13] <farchord> leftbas: that and I play Linux in WoW ;) heard that AoC will also work in Wine :D
[22:13] <Armagguedes> the most recent version too
[22:13] <clau30> navetz: have you tried pinging <IP_ADDRESS> when offline?
[22:13] <farchord> leftbas: errr wow in linux
[22:13] <leftbas> farchord: good going. i'm lucky that i don't need windows anymore. i just got my treo 680 to sync to kontact
[22:14] <leftbas> farchord: what's wow?
[22:14] <farchord> leftbas: yeah im not as lucky with my ipod touch, linux is detecting it as a digital camera <.< World of Warcraft
[22:14] <trypsin> leftbas: I think he's referring to World of Warcraft.
[22:14] <farchord> leftbas: If you don't know world of warcraft, you must be living under a rock
[22:14] <leftbas> farchord: oh! i love that episode of southpark
[22:14] <farchord> lawl
[22:14] <leftbas> just didn't know it by its initials :p
[22:14] <trypsin> Suuure. :P
[22:15] <navetz> clau30: yes and it works
[22:15] <navetz> clau30: however i cannot view it through any browser
[22:15] <leftbas> farchord: there are still a couple of quirks with my treo, but it's managable. it's the first time i've ever gotten it to work at all
[22:15] <clau30> navetz: is the port open?
[22:15] <farchord> leftbas: fact is, WoW is a Windows game. And in OGL mode, it runs faster than in Windows for me
[22:15] <leftbas> farchord: nice
[22:15] <navetz> clau30: what port? I am not sure what you mean.
[22:16] <farchord> leftbas: altho, granted, my Windows is Windows Vista :P
[22:16] <leftbas> farchord: eek!
[22:16] <leftbas> lol
[22:16] <clau30> navetz: well normally port 80 should be open
[22:16] <clau30> navetz: "normally" for apache
[22:16] <navetz> clau30: how can I check?
[22:17] <clau30> navetz: good question :D
[22:17] <leftbas> that's a great question...how do you get a list of all the udp ports and their states?
[22:17] <crs> netstat?
[22:17] <simi> hi, i am new to kubuntu, i was using ubuntu, i do not understend why konversation and pidgin start automaticaly when i log in?
[22:18] <clau30> navetz: google is a good friend :) http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/security-guide/s1-server-ports.html
[22:18] <crs> simi: session saving.
[22:18] <simi> where can i change the atart up applications?
[22:18] <crs> flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.
[22:18] <crs> and is still not working ;/
[22:18] <leftbas> you have to set them indiviually
[22:19] <simi> crs: i killed the apps before restarting
[22:19] <simi> where can i find the sesion manager>
[22:19] <simi> ?
[22:19] <crs> kcontrol
[22:19] <crs> simi: ^^
[22:20] <crs> or in menu, cos i think has been changed.
[22:20] <crs> System settings
[22:20] <leftbas> simi: do you mean the services manager?
[22:20] <navetz> clau30:  thanks I am trying it out right now
[22:21] <simi> leftbas: no i mean the applet that manage the sesion and the  programs that start at log in
[22:21] <crs> damn flash ;/
[22:21] <ObsidianX> hey folks, for some reason whenever i login it switches my resolution down to 640x480
[22:22] <ObsidianX> i can xrandr it back up to 1280x800 but then all my apps are loaded at the wrong resolution and it looks all messed up
[22:22] <navetz> clau30: yes the ports are open now, let me see if they will be when I turn off my internet
[22:22] <clau30> navetz: ok, look :)
[22:23] <leftbas> simi: sounds like the system services, which is in the control center
[22:23] <leftbas> simi: sorry, system settings
[22:30] <crs> ok, i have installed gnash, works fine, but w/o sound ;/
[22:30] <crs> ok, doesnt work fine ;/
[22:31] <trypsin> Alright, I'm in need of a little help. I've installed Ubuntu Hardy Heron 8.04 on my laptop. I'm not particularly fond of GNOME, though and want to go to KDE.
[22:31] <trypsin> Unfortunately, I've got a lot of data and a few programs I'm attached to in this system.
[22:32] <trypsin> So, is there a way to remove GNOME and install KDE some way short of a fresh install?
[22:33] <clau30> trypsin: you can start by removing gnome-desktop-environment
[22:33] <crs> Ok, once again. What should i install to get flash working?
[22:34] <clau30> although I dunno if it's only a metapackage
[22:34] <kuroryuu> trypsin: install kubuntu-desktop to get the basic kde stuff
[22:34] <clau30> crs: set your browser to use flash-nonfree
[22:34] <trypsin> Aye, I know that, kuroryuu. I don't want to be stuck with both GNOME and KDE, though. The combined updates will be murder.
[22:36] <trypsin> So simply installing kubuntu-desktop and removing gnome-desktop-environment will do the trick?
[22:36] <clau30> I dunno if it's only a metapackage
[22:36] <clau30> maybe the #ubuntu guys know how to remove gnome :D
[22:37] <crs> It is only metapackage, he has to do apt-get autoremove as well
[22:37] <kuroryuu> trypsin: try removing libgnome-2.0, that should remove most gnome packages
[22:38] <trypsin> OK, I'll ask them. On a related note, would Remastersys be a wise choice for backing up my present system?
[22:38] <trypsin> Thanks, kuroryuu. I'll try that.
[22:40] <kuroryuu> trypsin: sorry, libgnome2-0
[22:40] <uga> kuroryuu: find / -name g* -exec rm -rf {} \;
[22:40] <uga> dont' forget sudoing it ;)
[22:41] <trypsin> Oh, lovely.  I have install my kubuntu now and want to move it to other disc. Want to have exactly the same partition. ;-)
[22:47] <crs> uga: I can just run mkfs.reiserfs, but... :)
[22:47] <uga> crs: I really don't know but you should be able to check what partition it created before
[22:48] <crs> uga: Do you know how?
[22:48] <dare> what is like /home/user/.themes in kde? kubuntu? /home/user/.themes is folder where are GTK themes
[22:48] <dare> in gnome
[22:49] <uga> crs: I was trying to figure out myself. reiserfsck doesn't seem to do that. MAybe it will display the params when it checks
[22:49] <uga> crs: but Id' suggest you do that with the partition umounted
[22:49] <crs> uga: Why? what is the difference?
[22:49] <fenix> hi
[22:50] <fenix> sombody help me?
[22:50] <kuroryuu> fenix: what's the problem?
[22:50] <uga> crs: it's not suggested doing file system checks when the partition can be writing and reading
[22:50] <clau30> dare: I guess /usr/share/apps/kthememanager/themes
[22:50] <fenix> how to install a webcan of the laptop HP dv2625la in kubuntu8
[22:51] <dru> whats a rar tool for kubuntu
[22:51] <uga> dru: apt-get install unrar
[22:51] <dru> thanks
[22:51] <uga> it'll only extract them
[22:51] <kuroryuu> dru: sudo apt-get install rar unrar
[22:51] <dru> thats better thanks
[22:51] <jhutchins_wk> !webcam | fenix
[22:52] <Ukonpoika> Hi all. Having a problem with Noatun and Juk, neither will start. Konsole doesn't say _anything_ while trying to start from there, and reinstalling doesn't help either. I recently installed the Octoshape plugin from http://www.octoshape.com/plugin/linux.asp, the problems appeared after that, but I can't be sure of any connection between that and the problem. Help, anyone? :)
[22:52] <crs> uga: Oh, you meant checking.. Ok, i have done it already. ;-) Now, how to copy running system?
[22:52] <fenix> my webcam i know not is suported
[22:52] <dare> clau30: thanks thats it
[22:53] <uga> crs: I mean, when doing the filesystem check, possibly it will show the parameters at the beginning
[22:53] <uga> blocksize etd
[22:53] <uga> etc
[22:53] <crs> uga: yes, thanks. ;-)
[22:54] <uga> crs: if the disks were both same size, maybe you could just dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb?
[22:54] <uga> but I'm guessing not
[22:54] <clau30> dare: cool :)
[22:54] <crs> uga: no, they are not.
[22:54] <crs> uga: will cp -a do the job?
[22:55] <uga> crs: uhm... maybe, but not sure. Whenever I needed serious backups I used tarballs
[22:55] <crs> uga: yeah, but it is not a backup :)
[22:55] <uga> crs: it somewhat is
[22:55] <uga> since you need to keep timestamps etc
[22:56] <uga> also links and symlinks
[22:56] <crs> uga: yeah, would be lovely to have it... ;/
[23:01] <leftbas> anyone home?
[23:02] <SlimeyPete> nah
[23:02] <leftbas> lol
[23:02] <leftbas> lots of folks in here not saying much
[23:03] <leftbas> do you know anything about kpilot, pete?
[23:03] <clau30> :d
[23:03] <SlimeyPete> sorry, no
[23:03] <leftbas> hey clau30
[23:03] <leftbas> thanks anyway
[23:03] <clau30> sry, wrong window leftbas
[23:03] <leftbas> been trying to get a question answered today on several channels, and no one seems to know
[23:04] <leftbas> clau30: i tried #kpilot, but no one in there is talking
[23:04] <clau30> yea I can imagine..
[23:04] <leftbas> clau30: oh, i don't think i knew what you mean till just now. no worries
[23:04] <clau30> haha
[23:04] <azzco> leftbas: tried #kde ? I think that there's a kde-pim channel aswell..
[23:05] <leftbas> azzco: i haven't, but i will. thanks
[23:05] <azzco> I'm getting utterly ignored in ubuntu and even in my native language channel =/
[23:05] <azzco> Anyone used pulseaudio and recordmydesktop and got it working?
[23:05] <leftbas> it's a quiet day all around, isn't it?
[23:05] <leftbas> azzco: never tried
[23:05] <leftbas> sorry
[23:07] <clau30> azzco: I did but I won't tell you :P
[23:07] <tabris> :O
[23:08] <leftbas> lol
[23:08]  * azzco goes and bangs head into wall
[23:08] <leftbas> azzco: that should clear your head right up ;)
[23:08] <Israphel> :O
[23:08] <duane> if I want to scan a book with linux what would be the best app ? I used abby finereader in windows and it was nice cause you do a page and then it have option to do next page and keep compiling it into a pdf wondering if there was a linux app can do same
[23:09] <Israphel> i need help with the Atheros wireless card
[23:09] <leftbas> duane: kooka should do the trick
[23:10] <izzyb> Is linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-17-xen the correct package to get the nvidia kernel module?
[23:10] <Israphel> apt-get instal envyng-core for the nvidia driver
[23:10] <nosrednaekim> noooo
[23:10] <duane> thanks leftbas
[23:10] <leftbas> duane: yw
[23:11] <dwidmann> Is there any program around with a CD printing template? (My printer lets me print to CDs/DVDs, but without a usable template for printing with I can't really do it)
[23:11] <izzyb> Israphel, nope, didn't fix my probllem :(
[23:11] <leftbas> never tried
[23:11] <leftbas> cd printing, that is
[23:12] <adude> i need a program to record the line in.
[23:12] <viperserv1> anyone good with gnome here?
[23:12] <leftbas> try audacity
[23:12] <adude> ok
[23:12] <dwidmann> viperserv1: plenty of people good with gnome in #ubuntu I'm sure
[23:12] <leftbas> i would try #ubuntu, viper
[23:13] <viperserv1> what is the diff between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[23:13] <leftbas> adude: audacity is quite a nice cross-platform multi-track recorder
[23:13] <leftbas> ubuntu uses gnome by default
[23:13] <dwidmann> viperserv1: kubuntu uses KDE
[23:13] <leftbas> kubuntu uses kde
[23:13] <leftbas> oops
[23:13] <Israphel> izzyb, first sudo apt-get install envyng-core, then envyng -t, option 1 "install nvidia driver"
[23:16] <izzyb> Israphel, sadly that failed with an error saying the driver can't be installed with my current kernel.  it suggests pretty much every kernel except the -xen one
[23:16] <izzyb> does nvidia driver not work with the xen kernel?
[23:16] <Israphel> why dont you use the generic kernel?
[23:17] <dwidmann> izzyb: try installing manually?
[23:17] <izzyb> I have itt working in the generic kernel, but I want to run xen also on this box
[23:17] <izzyb> it was working with tthe ati radeon driver, but I had to replace the ati card because it was crashing my system
[23:17] <izzyb> not sure if it was the card or the driver, but suspect the driver
[23:18] <izzyb> dwidmann, do you have a howto?
[23:18] <izzyb> I tried manually loading the nvidiafb module, but it gives an error
[23:19] <dwidmann> izzyb: basically it amounts to download the thing from nvidia.com, install build-essential and linux-headers-`uname -r`, exit out of X and run the file ... you'll also need to add a line in /etc/defaults/linux-restricted-modules or some for file (I'll dig it up)
[23:21] <izzyb> hmm, interesting, I was going to post the error I was getting when I did a modprobe nvidiafb, but that error is now gone
[23:21] <izzyb> but still I get an error running startx
[23:21] <dwidmann> izzyb: /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common - the line is DISABLED_MODULES="nv"
[23:22] <izzyb> dwidmann, thanks, trying that now
[23:23] <jereme> anyone know if FF3RC1 is hitting the standard repositories anytime soon?
[23:23] <junezraulston> hi
[23:23] <leftbas> that was fast
[23:23] <leftbas> wb clau30
[23:24] <jereme> I'm a bit worn out on 3b5's busted form capabilities
[23:24] <clau30> thanks leftbas ;)
[23:24] <leftbas> clau30: yw
[23:26] <leftbas> i have the nv driver running with 2.6.24-16 with only one small resolution glitch on the logon screen
[23:26] <leftbas> works great other than that
[23:28] <clau30> anyone have experience with ati xpress cards?
[23:29] <leftbas> 'fraid not
[23:29] <nosrednaekim> clau30: yes! I do
[23:29] <clau30> nosrednaekim: how much does it suck? :)
[23:29] <nosrednaekim> clau30: not good ones though :) I have one
[23:29] <clau30> nosrednaekim: it's onboard on my lappy
[23:30] <nosrednaekim> clau30: they have terrible performance... a geforce4 can wipe it out...
[23:30] <clau30> nosrednaekim: well I would be happy if they's work at full potential here under linux
[23:30] <nosrednaekim> you can try intalling the ATI driver.
[23:31] <clau30> nosrednaekim: I did.. but sometimes a problem here, another time there..
[23:31] <nosrednaekim> yea..   It can't find precompiled kernel interface that matches the kernel.  Told it to attempt a download which fails and tells me it'll need to build one, but that fails also
[23:36] <izzyb> no obvious reason why it fails.  it  points to a log, but it doesn't say anything meaningful
[23:37] <izzyb> does the nvidia driver work with a xen kernel?
[23:38] <leftbas> clau30: that's a bit pricey :O
[23:39]  * jhutchins_wk doesn't get "lappy".  It's one less letter than 'laptop', and looks a lot dumber.
[23:39] <clau30> leftbas: yea, but it's for developers anyway
[23:40] <nosrednaekim> clau30: go get a ubuntu Dell
[23:40] <leftbas> true enough
[23:40] <clau30> jhutchins_wk: haha
[23:40] <clau30> I have a dell, although not a ubuntu one
[23:41] <clau30> jhutchins_wk: "lappy" sounds sweeter
[23:42] <leftbas> kinda like the british 'telly'
[23:42] <Ashex> hey guys
[23:42]  * izzyb just discoverd that nvidia and xen are not compatabile out of the box but there is a patch.  following a howto now...
[23:42] <leftbas> or 'nappy' for diaper
[23:42] <Ashex> what's the name of the failsafe video mode on the live disc?
[23:42] <clau30> tally ho, with a bing and a bong and a buzz-buzz-buzz
[23:42] <leftbas> what the heck is the xen kernel anyway?
[23:42] <Ashex> When you startup you can select a failsafe video mode, but can't remember the name of it
[23:42] <nosrednaekim> leftbas: virtualization
[23:43] <labud> hi
[23:43] <leftbas> nosrednaekim: you mean you need a special kernel to run in a virtual machine?
[23:43] <leftbas> hi labud
[23:43] <nosrednaekim> leftbas: if you use xen, yes
[23:43] <labud> how r u
[23:43] <Ashex> anyone?
[23:43] <leftbas> which brings me back to my original question...what's xen?
[23:43] <nosrednaekim> a virtualization hypervisor
[23:43] <nosrednaekim> !xen
[23:43] <leftbas> labud: fine, and you?
[23:44] <jhutchins_wk> leftbas: Either Novell's Zero Effort Networking or a virtualization service.
[23:44] <labud> good     i am going to be installing kubuntu 8.04
[23:44] <leftbas> got it...but it's way over my head - lol
[23:44] <nosrednaekim> ^_^
[23:44] <labud> onto a brand new sata ii hd   and was wondering if there might be any issues?
[23:44] <leftbas> not that i know of
[23:44] <Ashex> bugger
[23:44] <labud> good
[23:44] <Ashex> then is an easy question
[23:44] <leftbas> should be pretty straightforward
[23:45] <Ashex> !nox
[23:45] <Ashex> !noxserver
[23:45] <Ashex> !novideo > me
[23:45] <labud> i have burned the iso cd  so when i connect my new hd in i shud just boot from cd?
[23:45] <leftbas> Ashex: it should just say failsafe. i've never seen it labeled anything else
[23:46] <leftbas> labud: exactly
[23:46] <labud> gr8
[23:46] <Ashex> leftbas: hit F4 and failsafe?
[23:46] <leftbas> Ashex: that sounds about right, though i'd have to reboot the machine i'm on to confirm
[23:46] <Ashex> okay
[23:46] <Ashex> leftbas: works for me
[23:46] <Ashex> If it doesn't work for my friend, he'll have to wait until I get off work
[23:47] <leftbas> Ashex: it's more obvious when booting from the live cd, tho
[23:49] <clau30> nighty night
[23:49] <leftbas> see ya clau30
[23:50] <leftbas> getting late in europe ;)
[23:51] <labud> while i am here   the machine i am installing it on is  an Asus P5KC 3.0gHZ with Intel core 2 duo  4.0mb ram and nVidia GeForce 8500  and a Dlink nic card  with a linksys router
[23:51] <labud> see any issues there?
[23:51] <word|away> Don't get mad, i'm not using it as an away message, someone is 'borrowing' my nick so it defaulted to this one >.>
[23:51] <leftbas> labud: i see no problems with any of that gear
[23:52] <labud> ok   then i can come and c u when it blows up   lol
[23:52] <leftbas> sure...i live at 123 sesame street. i share an apartment with big bird
[23:52] <leftbas> ;)
[23:53] <leftbas> wb fadonnn
[23:53] <labud> hehe   ok
[23:53] <labud> ty leftbas
[23:53] <leftbas> labud: seriously, all those components are very mainstream, and have been shown to work with various distros
[23:53] <leftbas> labud: yw
[23:54] <labud> jk  leftbas  i thank you for your info   but am nervous  of course    have just startes with kubuntu     have 7.10  on this machine
[23:55] <labud> anyways  time to get on with it  thanks again
[23:55] <leftbas> labud: understandable, but it'll be fine. you might even consider upgrading to 8.04 yourself. it's a big improvement, imo
[23:55] <leftbas> no prob
[23:55] <leftbas> see ya


[18:29] <chilts> morning
[19:08] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:27] <ajmitch> morning
[21:29]  * ibeardslee is not sitting on L4
[21:29]  * ibeardslee is now sitting on L4
[21:32] <ojwb> good for you
[23:11] <chilts> ibeardslee: any spare desks on L4 that I can hire? :)
[23:12] <chilts> (or indeed any level)
[23:12] <chilts> s/hire/rent/ or whatever is appropriate :)
[23:22] <ibeardslee> probably
[23:23] <ibeardslee> we have a bunch of spares on L7 and once L2 is completed some there
[23:24] <ibeardslee> ex sysadmin AndrewT was working on L2 for himself for a while
[23:24] <ibeardslee> we've managed to rope him back into working for us, although not as a sysadmin
[23:25] <mwhudson> is that a risk working in your building?  go out for friday night drinks and wake up with a signed full time contract beside you?
[23:27] <ibeardslee> only the good ones
[23:32] <chilts> heh
[23:32] <chilts> I might talk to someone at some stage - I think 1yr 3mths is enough for the dust to settle :)
[23:33]  * chilts is talking desks, not contracts
[23:33] <chilts> just in case there was any misunderstanding
[23:36] <ibeardslee> like I said, only the good ones  ;)