[00:00] <Praxi> FuZi0N, can we get your log file like that guy guy?
[00:00] <dr3mro> Quantum_Ion, ++++++++1111111111111111
[00:00] <FuZi0N> umm
[00:00] <FuZi0N> im not good with linux
[00:00] <FuZi0N> i dont even know how to creaste a log :S
[00:01] <Praxi> me neither hehe, open a terminal (CTRL ALT T) type cd /temp/vmware-root
[00:01] <dr3mro> FuZi0N, log are created automatically by your distribution
[00:01] <gdea73> Quantum_Ion: lol, *do* you? (in response to your "wish")
[00:01] <Quantum_Ion> FuZi0N, Takes a lot of practice and reading but you will learn it eventually
[00:01] <gdea73> Quantum_Ion: I'll let you know if/when I finish setting up all the proprietary drivers here lol
[00:01] <Praxi> and look for a file in there, ls when list directory FuZi0N
[00:02] <dr3mro> Quantum_Ion, +1
[00:02] <FuZi0N> k
[00:02] <FuZi0N> do you know wht path?
[00:02] <schnuffle> FuZi0N: which version of ubuntu do you use?
[00:02] <pragmaticenigma> !ot > dr3mro
[00:02] <Praxi> FuZi0N, in a nutshell, the guy in that thread redownloaded
[00:02] <FuZi0N> 10.04
[00:02] <Quantum_Ion> gdea73, +1 thats google stuff lol
[00:02] <Praxi> do you know if your x64 or x86 FuZi0N?
[00:02] <FuZi0N> so you think it was a corrupted download?
[00:03] <FuZi0N> x86
[00:03] <Quantum_Ion> FuZi0N, How much memory ?
[00:03] <gdea73> Quantum_Ion: lol
[00:03] <dr3mro> do you guys know  how to disable cd rom of usb modem from automount
[00:04] <Praxi> and you downloaded the x86 version of of vmware player?  that thread, the guy had downloaded a version that was too old for his version of ubuntu
[00:04] <schnuffle> FuZi0N: Apprently you need to patch some modules http://superuser.com/questions/139656/how-do-i-install-the-vmware-player-on-ubuntu-10-04-when-it-hangs
[00:04] <schnuffle> So maybe you can use VirtualBox?
[00:04] <Praxi> I'm new to linux also, but I do work with vmware alot FuZi0N :)
[00:04] <gdea73> is it possible to use over 3GB of RAM on a 32-bit Ubuntu install if you use PAE?
[00:04] <gdea73> (and is that optimal compared to using a 64-bit install, for compatibility, drivers, etc.?)
[00:05] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[00:05] <dr3mro> gdea73, not all CPUs support PAE
[00:05] <gdea73> and please excuse me if what I just said made absolutely no sense.
[00:05] <pragmaticenigma> You can use up to 4 GB of Ram on a 32 bit system
[00:05] <pragmaticenigma> PAE has no effect gdea73
[00:05] <gdea73> ah okay. I thought there was some sort of kernel switch (At least for 32-bit XP) that would allow over 4GB.
[00:05] <gdea73> but I figured it was truly the limitations of the architecture - okay that's fine.
[00:05] <FuZi0N> 2GB
[00:06] <pragmaticenigma> nope.. gdea73, its a limitation of the archetecture
[00:06] <gdea73> oh, so it's not plural, sorry :P
[00:06] <gdea73> lol just messing
[00:06] <Quantum_Ion> pragmaticenigma, That's true I usually ask how much ram because if it's over 4GB most likely it's 64bit
[00:06] <FuZi0N> im not a big fan of virtualbox and i already got my virtual machine made in vmware
[00:06] <gdea73> though out of curiosity, did 16-bit systems have an even smaller memory access limit?
[00:06] <gdea73> (would it be 64MB?)
[00:06] <pragmaticenigma> gdea73: Yes
[00:06] <songer> hello
[00:07] <schnuffle> FuZi0N: Then you'll need to patch vmware player
[00:07] <pragmaticenigma> gdea73: you can calculate it
[00:07] <Quantum_Ion> gdea73, I think a Sega Genesis was 16 bit I wonder how much memory it had ?
[00:07] <gdea73> pragmaticenigma: I think I attempted to a while ago, in my head, when I came up with 64M. that's why I was wondering if I was right.
[00:07] <Praxi> schnuffle, looking at that thread you posted, that was a hang during install?  I think FuZi0N got it installed succesfully, just can't launch it?
[00:07] <gdea73> Quantum_Ion: lol; random...
[00:07] <pragmaticenigma> gdea73: sounds a little low
[00:08] <FuZi0N> yes
[00:08] <Quantum_Ion> gdea73, Just out of curiousity had to google it
[00:08] <FuZi0N> when i try to launch it
[00:08] <schnuffle> Praxi: Yes, but the problem is that for getting it up and running you need to fix some vmware kernel modules
[00:08] <FuZi0N> it takes me to a screen saying im missing the right kernel
[00:08] <gdea73> Quantum_Ion: I tried to before, and I never found anything.
[00:08] <gdea73> pragmaticenigma: you may be right... I don't know. It was a guess basically.
[00:08] <itaylor57> 8 bit systems had a 64M memory limit
[00:09] <FuZi0N> i dont think there is a patch for the newest version is htere?
[00:09] <Quantum_Ion> The closet I cam was this The Sega Saturn has a small internal memory about 2MB
[00:09] <schnuffle> FuZi0N:  which one have you running? uname -a to get that info
[00:09] <pragmaticenigma> oh... I'm sorry gdea73 ... PAE does affect the maximum amount of memory
[00:09] <gdea73> itaylor57: ah, alright... so then in that case, it would be...
[00:09] <gdea73> pragmaticenigma: yes that's fine I came to that conclusion. I wasn't going to use it. Just wondering.
[00:09] <gdea73> I wonder about random things. All the time. :D
[00:10] <Quantum_Ion> The Sega Saturn was the first video game console to break the 32 bit barrier
[00:10] <pragmaticenigma> Though PAE would not be as efficient as having a 64 bit processor
[00:10] <gdea73> wait... but you know, itaylor57, 64 is the square root of 4096M (32-bit limit). I thought that there would be one exponent between each successive (power of two)-bit architecture... ?
[00:11] <gdea73> I can't use a half-exponent and I doubt it's a coincidence that the 32-bit limit is the square of that of the 8-bit architecture.
[00:11] <Quantum_Ion> Those old videogame consoles were so classic
[00:11] <pragmaticenigma> gdea73: it's based in octal notation...
[00:11] <pragmaticenigma> err... sorry ... hexal
[00:11] <gdea73> pragmaticenigma: oh wait, sorry, I totally misread your post. It *does* affect the maximum memory? Interesting. Still don't plan on using anything like that.
[00:11] <gdea73> ah, that would make sense, regarding the hex notation
[00:12] <gdea73> I'm a little brain-dead for doing some math calculations right now though.
[00:12] <Quantum_Ion> The first Nintendo was 8 bit WOW
[00:12] <gdea73> I have one! NES FTW!
[00:12] <gdea73> I used to play Super Mario Brothers 3 on that alll the time :D
[00:12] <gdea73> back in the day.
[00:12] <Quantum_Ion> Come a long way since the days of the 8 bit console
[00:12] <FuZi0N> im running the latest version
[00:12] <FuZi0N> 4.0.5
[00:13] <gdea73> so true, console gaming has come an incredible way. Gaming in general. The sheer amount of polygons one could render in a mere second of GTA IV, for example, is just incredible.
[00:13] <schnuffle> FuZi0N: And your kernel version?
[00:13] <pragmaticenigma> okay guys... I think we should stick to helping others with issues... and not clog up the room with !ot stuff
[00:13] <gdea73> during Ubuntu setup, does it download packages before or after "Copying files..."? Because copying files is taking long enough and from experience I've noticed that the first update takes like an hour on my connection.
[00:14] <gdea73> pragmaticenigma: alright, fair enough... I'll leave in the meantime while my HD formats.
[00:14] <newtolin> Can I setup luks in a way so that I have to enter my passphrase only once before booting for mounting volumes on 2 different hard drives? (truecrypt on win can do that, if the volumes have the same passphrase.) If not: what do you think of storing a keyfile for the second disk on the first disk an setup auto mount with that instead of a passphrase?
[00:14] <Praxi> FuZi0N, here is a interesting link farther down in schnuffle 's thread http://jbmoore61.blogspot.com/2010/02/fixing-vmware-workstation-652-and-linux.html  talks about kernel version and a few other things
[00:14] <pragmaticenigma> gdea73: Did you get any further on your project?
[00:15] <gdea73> pragmaticenigma: I'm working on it, to some extent, now - I'm reinstalling Ubuntu 10.10 for now, hoping I can get a more stable fglrx system. I was going to try 10.04 but my only CD-Rs are terrible at the moment, and I can't find my USB stick, so I'll just use my existing CD of 10.10 x64.
[00:15] <pragmaticenigma> does fglrx have support for 64bit?
[00:15] <gdea73> the only CD-Rs I have access to are these Memorex "Music" CD-Rs, which make any CD-ROM drive vibrate in terror when inserted. They sound like they're going to explode if I try to write to them, kind of like in that Mythbusters episode... :P
[00:16] <gdea73> fglrx, I thought, did.
[00:16] <pragmaticenigma> gdea73: You can select a lower burn speed when burning discs
[00:16] <gdea73> I'm pretty sure it does, it has separate packages for x64.
[00:16] <pragmaticenigma> gdea73: K, just checking
[00:16] <FuZi0N> how do i uninstall the current version of vmware i have installed?
[00:17] <gdea73> pragmaticenigma: I know I can use slower burn speeds, its just that I tend to get erratic CDs with this particular CD-R. Just spinning one up causes that horrible noise, and a lot of vibration, preventing a successful burn. cheap media...
[00:17] <gdea73> * batch of CD-Rs.
[00:18] <FuZi0N> nvm
[00:18] <pragmaticenigma> gdea73: I lost a nice Sony DVD-RW drive to a bad disk... good idea to use those disks sparingly
[00:18] <CFHowlett> FuZi0N   sudo apt-get purge vmware
[00:19] <schnuffle> FuZi0N: sudo vmware-installer -u vmware-player should do the trick
[00:19] <gdea73> pragmaticenigma: ouch, yeah I figured I'd wait until I can buy a new batch of 50, this time normal data CD-Rs.
[00:19] <Praxi> gotta run for beer and mexican food, good luck FuZi0N sounds like schnuffle's got ya covered :)
[00:20] <gdea73> Praxi: lol
[00:20] <pragmaticenigma> gdea73: Check your PMs
[00:20] <schnuffle> FuZi0N: if the above fails: http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=38
[00:21] <schnuffle> Praxi: have a good meal
[00:21] <Quantum_Ion> I wish they had a wearable computer with Ubuntu Linux on it
[00:22] <chris__> Hey I was wondering if there is anyway to increase my scrollwheel speed in Xbuntu? I tried looking in the mouse settings, it seems much much slower then in windows.
[00:23] <Tunix2> What is Ubuntu 2D? I used to be able to select Gnome Classic from the login screen
[00:25] <droid-0854> Tunix, look up ubuntu forks
[00:26] <schnuffle> FuZi0N: Still waiting for your kernel version. Vmware Player 4.x needs a 64Bit kernel. So first thing to check, is your kernel 64Bit
[00:26] <itaylor57> Tunix2, did you just upgrade to 11.10?
[00:27] <Praxi> waiting for my ride for mexican food, tunix ubuntu 2d is for lower performance systems http://lifehacker.com/5735942/unity-2d-speeds-up-ubuntus-unity-interface-on-low+powered-computers
[00:27] <schnuffle> FuZi0N: So if you have only 32Bit you'll have to install the old version 3.x
[00:27] <Tunix2> itaylor57: I install from a 11.10 CD
[00:27] <Praxi> schnuffle, in one of my earlier questions FuZi0N said x86
[00:27] <FuZi0N> yeah... im trying to uninstall it and try 3.0.1
[00:27] <itaylor57> !nounitry | Tunix2 if you want more like gnome classic
[00:27] <valdano113> Hi
[00:27] <schnuffle> FuZi0N: Fine, and good luck
[00:27] <itaylor57> !nouniry | Tunix2 if you want more like gnome classic
[00:27] <CFHowlett> valdano113   greetings
[00:28] <itaylor57> !nounity | Tunix2 if you want more like gnome classic
[00:28] <CFHowlett> !nounity|Tunix2
[00:28] <itaylor57> if i could only type
[00:28] <Edisto> I am trying to uninstall and reinstall a program. if its hanging on installation does that mean the file is corrupted?
[00:28] <CFHowlett> Edisto   possibly.  did you get it through software center or otherwise
[00:29] <schnuffle> Edisto: How did you install? From repository?
[00:29] <Praxi> don't think Tunix2 was asking how to not run unity, he was asking what unity2d is?
[00:29] <itmannen> Hello from 12.04 Beta1 in Sweden
[00:29] <CFHowlett> !precise|itmannen
[00:29] <Edisto> otherwise... it installed fine the first time but when i delted the folder and tried to reinstall its just hanging
[00:29] <itmannen> Ok
[00:29] <CFHowlett> Edisto   if not through software center expect the unexpected
[00:29] <Edisto> lol
[00:30] <Tunix2> itaylor57: CFHowlett Will i see any slight performance increases by using classic-gnome?
[00:30] <schnuffle> Edisto: Please be more precise about how you installed what folder you deleted .....
[00:30] <valdano113> i have a problem with my wifi bus card (sagem) i had installed windows wirless drive and i installed the drive.inf but every starup i have to install drive.inf to use net
[00:30] <CFHowlett> Tunix2   I don't/won't use unity as I'm on 10.04 usbunt studio
[00:30] <CFHowlett> sorry but IDK
[00:30] <Edisto> so i did a tar xvfz xamp... -C /opt folder... then a rm -rf lampp
[00:31] <orionsonofneptun> hello
[00:32] <schnuffle> Edisto: Any reason for using xamp? I suggest that you just install apache2,mysql-server,php,phpmyadmin
[00:32] <CFHowlett> Tunix2  x/l/ubuntu are both "lighter" distros for older and lower specification machines.
[00:32] <itaylor57> Tunix2, the fact that your computer came up in unity2d shows that ubuntu doesn't think your computer can handle doing unity3d
[00:33] <raichlea> This is a minor annoyance, but can anybody tell me why I'm unable to change the shortcut to launch a terminal window? I can find it in the menu but I'm unable to change anything
[00:33] <schnuffle> Edisto:  paste a ls -l /opt
[00:33] <Tunix2> itaylor57: I put it in 2d manually
[00:34] <itaylor57> Tunix2, ok didn'tknow that
[00:34] <Tunix2> itaylor57: I was using Xubuntu because I wanted the lightest weight ubuntu install possible except Xubuntu had a lot of issues
[00:34] <itaylor57> Tunix2, there is always xfce
[00:37] <Edisto> schnuffle: i was using everything because i for some reason when I install php... I still can't open local php files it just tries to save them or open with gedit
[00:37] <Edisto> because for remove the i
[00:38] <schnuffle> Edisto: you need to install the apche php module and activate it
[00:39] <ZenGuy311> how can I add the md5 hash of a file in the output of tree alongside the filenames?
[00:39] <spons> wazaaap
[00:39] <Edisto> that is with sudo a2enmod action?
[00:40] <Edisto> i tried that one but it still the same unless there's something different
[00:40] <ZenGuy311> can vlc 2.0 be run on 10.04?
[00:40] <schnuffle> Edisto: Yes and the module is libapache2-mod-php5
[00:41] <Edisto> let me try it again
[00:41] <schnuffle> Edisto: When you install it it should be activated by default
[00:41] <Edisto> yeah which is the crazy part
[00:41] <dysun> hi
[00:41] <dysun> i'm running ubuntu 10.04
[00:42] <dysun> and i have a pci quad nic card
[00:42] <dysun> my motherboard has 4 onboard nics as well
[00:42] <schnuffle> Edisto: Just for you to know lampp may be nice for dev jobs but never use it on production server
[00:42] <dysun> i was wondering if there is a certain way
[00:42] <dysun> to get my nics to load up in the order i want
[00:43] <dysun> can any of you guys help ?
[00:43] <mumixam> you want a certain card to have eth0?
[00:43] <hellyeah> hey
[00:44] <hellyeah> is there anyone who use inkscape
[00:44] <dysun> yeah
[00:44] <soreau> dysun: Are you setting up a server or switch of some kind?
[00:44] <hellyeah> i am in inkscape channel but no one answwer
[00:44] <CFHowlett> hellyeah   sometimes
[00:44] <dysun> soreau: yeah i am
[00:44] <mumixam> dysun: try looking at this file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[00:44] <soreau> dysun: In the udev file, you can edit the device names for each piece of detected hardware
[00:45] <orionsonofneptun> language
[00:45] <dysun> mumixam, soreau: k thanks guys i'll check it out right now
[00:45] <orionsonofneptun> ubbotu language
[00:45] <soreau> dysun: if you have eth1 - eth8 for instance, try 'grep -Rn eth8 /etc' to get an idea where it's hiding
[00:46] <dysun> soreau: wow this is is exactly what i was looking for. thanks!
[00:46] <soreau> dysun: eth0 - eth7 I guess, grep for eth7 or whatever
[00:48] <Edisto> schnuffle still getting the same thing after I installed apache2,mysql-server,php,phpmyadmin
[00:49] <schnuffle> Edisto: You mean you call a php file and it gets downloaded?
[00:49] <Edisto> schnuffle: i open it with firefox and it says open with gedit or save it won't view
[00:50] <Edisto> schnuffle: did a2enmod php5 and says already enabled
[00:50] <schnuffle> Edisto: so you do a http://localhost/inho.php and it want to open it in Some editor?
[00:50] <schnuffle> Edisto: Did you restart your apaches server?
[00:50] <magicJ> you need to tell apache that this is an executable type pf script
[00:50] <Edisto> ya... actually i'm trying to install word press so i'm just dragging the install.php to the browser or going to file open
[00:51] <Edisto> schnuffle: the localhost works its just opening php file
[00:51] <magicJ> AddHandler cgi-script .php
[00:51] <schnuffle> Edisto: No you need to enter the correct URL into the browser. Wordpress should be in /var/www
[00:51] <schnuffle> magicJ: HE has modphp5 enabled
[00:52] <magicJ> schnuffle:  not enough
[00:52] <schnuffle> Edisto: so if wordpress was extracted to /var/www/wp you need to type http://localhost/wp/install.php
[00:53] <Edisto> i gotcha... it is different from windows =D
[00:53] <Edisto> thanks schnuffle
[00:54] <schnuffle> magicJ: It's enough as you get a conf file which adds a Addtype
[00:55] <dmrlulz> does anyone know how to make the login screen for gdm or lightdm show up in only one monitor? in other words, start xinerama or whatever before starting the desktop?
[00:56] <dmrlulz> i'm trying to use an alternative window manager, but since my X relies on gnome machinery to start non-mirroring multihead, the alt window managers all end up mirrored
[00:59] <drPoO> can anybody point me towards a good gdisk RAID tutorial??
[01:02] <korvin> Hey broz
[01:02] <drPoO> can anybody point me towards a good gdisk RAID tutorial??
[01:03] <schnuffle> drPoO: gdisk?
[01:05] <drPoO> schnuffle,  gdisk - Interactive GUID partition table (GPT) manipulator
[01:06] <schnuffle> drPoO: http://blog.scurker.com/2010/09/installing-ubuntu-10-04-w-raid-1-and-gpt
[01:06] <jesse_> Wee woo
[01:07] <schnuffle> drPoO: in german: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Software-RAID
[01:08] <schnuffle> drPoO: and in english: http://www.cynick.com/2011/12/05/successfully-installing-ubuntu-11-10-with-software-raid/
[01:09] <drPoO> schnuffle, I already installed 10.04 LTS server and I want to create a RAID 1 on 4 3TB HDDs now
[01:10] <drPoO> schnuffle, I know how to do it with fdisk
[01:10] <drPoO> schnuffle, but GPT partitioning is new to me
[01:10] <cassiereroni> I'm a newbie here, 1st visit.  Looking to maybe install Ubantu onto my system but don't know anything about this stuff and scared to death.
[01:11] <schnuffle> drPoO: okay haven't had much experience with GPT yet
[01:11] <schnuffle> cassiereroni: so how can we help?
[01:12] <macer1> Hi
[01:12] <macer1> I have a question :D
[01:12] <drPoO> cassiereroni, just do it! Get rid of windoze or iCrap and go free!
[01:12] <schnuffle> !anyone | macer1
[01:12] <Swurl> drPoO: try using
[01:12] <macer1> uh sorry >.>
[01:12] <cassiereroni> schnuffle, how would I install Ubantu and get rid of Windows?
[01:12] <Swurl> Cassiererni: I can help
[01:13] <JoseeAntonioR> cassiereroni: Are you using Ubuntu at the moment?
[01:13] <drPoO> Swurl, try using what?
[01:13] <macer1> If I have LVM, on that LVM 3 partitions: boot, root(luks), swap(luks) do I have to enter the password two times, one for swap and one for root >.>?
[01:13] <Swurl> mbr
[01:13] <cassiereroni> No, not using Ubantu.  Using Windows 7
[01:13] <Swurl> Get wubi
[01:13] <drPoO> Swurl, mbr?
[01:13] <JoseeAntonioR> Swurl: cassiereroni mentioned removing Wind
[01:13] <`Korvin> switched to tty1, kdm crashed, and desktp effects turned off opengl to prevent further crashing, now after reverting that, my terminal won't accept background transparency =O
[01:14] <`Korvin> and yes desktop effects ae enabled
[01:14] <schnuffle> cassiereroni: 1.Make a backup, 2. Make a backup, 3. Download and burn a Ubuntu install CD  4. start from that CD, Wipe your disk and install it
[01:14] <cassiereroni> I do have another hard drive on my computer that isn't hooked up because windows won't start if I hook it up.  Could I install Ubantu on that drive?
[01:14] <snickers_> bad horse doesnt want u to make   abackup
[01:14] <schnuffle> cassiereroni: yes
[01:14] <JoseeAntonioR> cassiereroni: Yes, of course you can. Just, make sure you backup important things.
[01:15] <Numb3r> hey there
[01:15] <JoseeAntonioR> Numb3r: Hello!
[01:16] <rjman> cassiereroni: have you tried the live cd/usb to make sure you like ubuntu/linux first?
[01:16] <macer1> hm?
[01:16] <cassiereroni> Having a slow time reading everything.  Hang on while I find out where I need to be.
[01:16] <reagle> i'm moving all my desktop to ubuntu 11.10. i really like the ring switcher and it works on my netbook, work PC, but not my home PC. It's not that it doesn't work, it simply doesn't show up in ccsm.
[01:16] <reagle> is there any reason a plugin simply wouldnt' show up?
[01:17] <Quantum_Ion> Just through Ubuntu on all your old PC's and breath new life into them
[01:17] <JoseeAntonioR> reagle: Maybe video settings.
[01:17] <`Korvin> Does anyone have any idea?
[01:17] <macer1> or maybe…just mount the root partition and have the keyfile for swap there, and automount?
[01:17] <cassiereroni> rjman, it doesn't really matter if I like it or not, I just bought this system and just found out 5 minutes ago that windows is pirated.  I need to get it off of my computer....I'm soooo mad!
[01:17] <reagle> JoseeAntonioR: what do you mean? is there a log that would say which plugins failed, some switch for different vid settings?
[01:18] <Quantum_Ion> cassiereroni, lol@pirate Windows
[01:18] <rjman> cassiereroni: ah, i see
[01:18] <reagle> again, the cooler 3d switchers don't even appear in ccsm Windows Management tab
[01:18] <JoseeAntonioR> reagle: I meant, some PCs can't handle Unity.
[01:19] <dmrlulz> how do i start the display manager without display mirroring in a multihead environment?
[01:19] <reagle> unity is OK, this is a different switcher in ccsm. in any case, is that the typical behavior, it tests if the plugin will work and won't show it?
[01:20] <dmrlulz> i want gdm (or lightdm, or whatever) to show a login thing in one monitor, and just background in the other
[01:21] <JoseeAntonioR> reagle: I don't know, exactly.
[01:22] <Darknessraptor> buenas noches a todos
[01:23] <schnuffle> !sp | Darknessraptor
[01:23] <Darknessraptor> aquí es el canal de soporte de ubuntu?
[01:23] <Darknessraptor> Hi every one?
[01:23] <schnuffle> Darknessraptor: hi, only english, #ubuntu-sp for spanish support
[01:23] <JoseeAntonioR> Darknessraptor: Hola!
[01:24] <itaylor57> !es | Darknessraptor
[01:24] <Darknessraptor> may I ask if here is Ubuntus's suport channel?
[01:24] <schnuffle> Darknessraptor: yes it's the support channel :)
[01:24] <cassiereroni> how do I know what files are important?  Do you mean files that are like, my pictures and files that I have or do you mean files that are part of the system?
[01:25] <schnuffle> cassiereroni: important means that you want to keep them, like photos ........
[01:25] <Darknessraptor> Ok I understand it's not a problem OK :)
[01:25] <Darknessraptor> tks
[01:25] <cassiereroni> Ok, so I don't have to worry about drive files, for cd and dvd or usb?
[01:26] <schnuffle> cassiereroni: no, linux comes with it's own drivers
[01:26] <`Korvin> switched to tty1, kdm crashed, and desktp effects turned off opengl to prevent further crashing, now after reverting that, my terminal won't accept background transparency =O
[01:26] <`Korvin> How can I fix that
[01:26] <`Korvin> It's only my terminal
[01:27] <Numb3r> hey
[01:27] <cassiereroni> Ok, now about this secondary master drive that I have, how would I get it to start up if I can't get windows to load when I hook the power back to it?
[01:28] <`Korvin> cassiereroni: is it an ide drive?
[01:28] <schnuffle> cassiereroni: is it a IDE drive. If so you need to change it to slave mode. Normally there's a sticker on the HDD which states which conf is used for slave mode
[01:28] <cassiereroni> I'm so afraid that I'm going to mess this up and have a very expensive bookend in the end! :(
[01:28] <`Korvin> What schnuffle said
[01:29] <cassiereroni> Korvin, ummm I'll have to check to be sure.
[01:29] <cassiereroni> I don't trust that anything I've been told about this puter is correct.
[01:29] <`Korvin> do you know how to tell the difference?
[01:30] <nicekiwi> I have an Ubnutu LiveCD and a SSD drive that just died.. can I access the SDD somehow?
[01:30] <schnuffle> cassiereroni: You have always the option to boot you ubuntu system from the CD to test it. So the first step - booting from a ubuntu install CD won't change anything
[01:30] <schnuffle> nicekiwi: You can try to mount it of course
[01:30] <`Korvin> nicekiwi, boot up into the live cd and attempt to mount it
[01:30] <cassiereroni> Ah ha!  schnuffle, when I looked at the drive real quick the other day I did notice that that drive was set to slave
[01:30] <`Korvin> if it doesn't mount you're most likely sol
[01:31] <nicekiwi> schnuffle: the BIOS odsnt detect the drive..
[01:31] <nicekiwi> dosnt*
[01:31] <`Korvin> nicekiwi: oh gee
[01:31] <`Korvin> nicekiwi: get an external enclosure
[01:31] <`Korvin> see if you can mount it with the enclosures mb
[01:31] <nicekiwi> `Korvin: I have on, even that dosnt work :( although.. I havnt tried the USB one..
[01:32] <`Korvin> try usb as esata relys on the computers motherboard
[01:33] <schnuffle> cassiereroni: On a IDE bus you can connect 2 drives but one has to be in master mode, the other in slave mode. There's a third option cable select, but I wouldn't use it
[01:34] <`Korvin> I'm going to try restarting terminal
[01:34] <`Korvin> using weechat so I'll brb
[01:36] <nicekiwi> stil didnt work :(
[01:37] <schnuffle> nicekiwi: then I don't see any chance to recover
[01:37] <nicekiwi> </3
[01:38] <cassiereroni> Ok well, here goes everything.  Gonna go see what kind of damage I can do to this thing.  Thanks for the help.  Might be back if I need to and if I can.
[01:38] <schnuffle> cassiereroni: good luck
[01:39] <cassiereroni> Wait....one more question.    Thanks,
[01:40] <JoseeAntonioR> helpme: What can we help you with?
[01:40] <schnuffle> cassiereroni: I prefer to use a USB stick
[01:40] <JoseeAntonioR> cassiereroni: As schnuffle said, you can also use a USB stick, instructions are on the download page :)
[01:40] <cassiereroni> schuffle, how big does a usb have to be?
[01:40] <schnuffle> cassiereroni: 1GB at least
[01:41] <cassiereroni> Ok, think I might have one of those.
[01:41] <cassiereroni> Thanks all.
[01:41] <helpme> how I can create a folder shortcut in ubuntu and can see it on ftp
[01:41] <cassiereroni> now how do I get out of here.....(looking)
[01:41] <helpme> I try it the ln command
[01:41] <helpme> but doesn't work
[01:41] <JoseeAntonioR> !enter | helpme
[01:41] <schnuffle> helpme: on the console or with the file manager?
[01:42] <JoseeAntonioR> helpme: You can create a shortcut by right-clicking the folder, and selecting Make Link
[01:42] <helpme> console
[01:42] <magiavelico> hola
[01:42] <schnuffle> helpme: paste the command you used.
[01:42] <schnuffle> !es | magiavelico
[01:42] <JoseeAntonioR> magiavelico: Hola! Para soporte en español, únete a #ubuntu-es, escribiendo "/j #ubuntu-es" sin comillas.
[01:42] <helpme> ln -sf /var/www/ /home/user1
[01:42] <magiavelico> ok
[01:43] <schnuffle> helpme: does /home/user1 already exists?
[01:43] <helpme> the command is worked but when I go to the ftp client (filezila) I can't see my folder www
[01:44] <JoseeAntonioR> helpme: You should write the path, /var/www
[01:44] <schnuffle> helpme: which directory does your FTP server has as root? /home?
[01:45] <helpme> nmnm
[01:45] <zoggnoff> helpme: sometimes I have use passive mode when doing FTP stuff.
[01:46] <helpme> My FTP server is passive mode
[01:46] <JoseeAntonioR> helpme: Are you using lighttpd and vsftpd?
[01:46] <helpme> I'm using apache
[01:47] <JoseeAntonioR> helpme: Well, once you are connected to your FTP server, you should write the path location, which is /var/www
[01:48] <zoggnoff> Apache is a Webserver not an ftp daemon, I believe
[01:49] <JoseeAntonioR> zoggnoff: Maybe helpme has installed vsftpd.
[01:49] <helpme> ok, the shortcut is working weel in the command promt (SSH), but when I go to the folder /home/user1 I can't see the shortcut www
[01:49] <helpme>  installed proftpd
[01:50] <JoseeAntonioR> helpme: What FTP client are you using?
[01:50] <schnuffle> helpme: of course not, to see the www folder ln -s /var/www /home/user1/www
[01:50] <helpme> filezila
[01:50] <helpme> so how I can make it visible
[01:51] <JoseeAntonioR> helpme: Then, on the remote site field, type in /var/www.
[01:51] <zoggnoff> maybe after you sign in to ftp you are in /home/user as pwd
[01:55] <helpme> so
[01:55] <zykotic10> schnuffle: your link command is gonna create a /home/user1/www/www link i think.  helpme
[01:56] <helpme> gonna?
[01:56] <zykotic10> sorry - going to
[01:56] <schnuffle> zykotic10: nope it will create /home/user1/www
[01:57] <zykotic10> schnuffle: might depend of if /home/user1/www exists right now or not as a directory
[01:57] <zykotic10> schnuffle: i don't typically specify ln names, makes life easier
[01:58] <schnuffle> zykotic10: that's right but it would need to have a / at the end
[01:58] <zykotic10> schnuffle: sometime the reverse is true, changing the name is real handy ;)
[01:58] <zykotic10> schnuffle: i did test it with a ~/www and it created ~/www/www
[01:58] <schnuffle> helpme: I can help you, but for that you need to answer the questions
[01:59] <helpme> sure
[01:59] <helpme> what is your questions
[01:59] <schnuffle> helpme: okay, first you aim is to access /var/www through your ftp server? Is that right?
[02:01] <helpme> yes
[02:02] <avuton> How do I display the time on the menu bar in 12.04?
[02:02] <spacebarbarian> did sun jdk get removed from the 10.04 parnter repo ?
[02:02] <zykotic10> spacebarbarian: oracle decision to change licensing terms
[02:02] <dmrlulz> 4/quit
[02:02] <schnuffle> helpme: okay, when you login with your ftp client, what do you see? The home directory of the user?
[02:03] <zykotic10> spacebarbarian: sorry, yes - because: first note ;)
[02:03] <spacebarbarian> hmm I thought that as from the main repo , I remember installing off the parner repo just a few weeks ago
[02:03] <JoseeAntonioR> spacebarbarian: It has been replaced by openjdk-r-jre
[02:03] <itaylor57> !java | spacebarbarian
[02:03] <zykotic10> JoseeAntonioR: "replaced" ??? really.
[02:04] <itaylor57> spacebarbarian, you can still run which ever java you wish to
[02:04] <JoseeAntonioR> zykotic10: Not exactly replaced, but it's a suggestion to install that package instead of sun-
[02:04] <spacebarbarian> http://beeznest.wordpress.com/2010/04/23/howto-install-suns-java-on-ubuntu-lucid-lynx-10-04/
[02:04] <spacebarbarian> I have been using that method for a while but since a few weeks that seems to have stopped working, so I guess this is something new ?
[02:05] <zykotic10> JoseeAntonioR: oh i agree with that.  but replaced is the wrong word ;)  i currently think: A) use openjava B) drop java are the options
[02:06] <spacebarbarian> hmm, look what i found :P http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/s/sun-java6/
[02:06] <spacebarbarian> how come i cant get this !
[02:07] <zykotic10> spacebarbarian: fyi the old java versions may have security issues
[02:07] <zoggnoff> join #Android
[02:07] <zoggnoff> sorry
[02:08] <itaylor57> spacebarbarian, if you read the link given before it tells you how to install sun java 6
[02:08] <spacebarbarian> yes I folllowed that method and it still cant find those packages
[02:09] <spacebarbarian> but they seem to be there in the archive
[02:09] <zykotic10> spacebarbarian: you can get java from oracle, don't use any old ubuntu repo versions
[02:09] <schnuffle> helpme: ?
[02:10] <itaylor57> spacebarbarian, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java works just fine
[02:10] <zykotic10> itaylor57: +1
[02:11] <helpme> schnuffle: I found it
[02:12] <itaylor57> spacebarbarian, i am currently running open jdk 6,7  and oracle 7
[02:12] <itaylor57> and i could run oracle 6 if i wanted
[02:12] <schnuffle> helpme: You found your remote control? :)
[02:12] <spacebarbarian> yeah i would just do open jdk but not installing this for my own use so gotta stick to the listed requirements :P
[02:14] <zykotic10> itaylor57: i don't understand the community effort to replace OpenOffice with LibreOffice, yet even after this recent oracle java / licensing fiasco openjava still isn't enouraged by the community? </OT sorry>
[02:15] <dysun> hi all
[02:15] <dysun> i have a 4 port PCIe serial card
[02:15] <dysun> i was just wondering
[02:15] <dysun> everytime i have to do an insmod
[02:15] <dysun> w/ name of the driver
[02:15] <zykotic10> !enter | dysun
[02:16] <dysun> i was wondering if there is a way to load up the driver without having to insmod everytime i log in
[02:16] <itaylor57> zykotic10, yea i can't contribute to open java because oracle requires you to sign an agreement that violates my companys intellecutal property agreement
[02:17] <zykotic10> itaylor57: EXACTLY - so why does anyone use java? </OT i promise>
[02:20] <avuton> Is there any way to get the time/date on the classic gnome menu (12.04)
[02:20] <itaylor57> !precise | avuton
[02:21] <JoseeAntonioR> avuton: You can join #ubuntu+1 for the betta support.
[02:26] <morpheus> hi
[02:29] <Guest99495> Greetings!
[02:31] <diablo> jay
[02:37] <Roge152> Hello, does anyone know of a good tutorial for getting oracle Java installed ?
[02:38] <itaylor57> Roge152, look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[02:40] <Roge152> ty itaylor57
[02:40] <waxstone> Im in Ubuntu 10.10 (UNITY) I have Pidgin open but cant see it. Its on none of the worksheets and doesnt show when I alt tab
[02:40] <waxstone> 11.10 sorry
[02:48] <Roge152> Is there a keyboard shortcut to cycle Virtual Desktops ?
[02:49] <log> Roge152: You mean Workspaces?
[02:49] <Roge152> yes
[02:49] <log> Roge152: Alt-->Ctrl-->Arrow Key
[02:49] <Roge152> Excellent, thanks.
[02:49] <log> Roge152: No problem.
[02:50] <Roge152> I don't see whats with all the unity complaints, Its actually very sexy
[02:51] <joeandkim> hi
[02:52] <log> Roge152: I personally like it. :)
[02:52] <waxstone> i like it but it definitely has bugs
[02:52] <Roge152> yeah, I especially like how I can hide the "Launcher" automaticly and it pops back when I mouse over it.
[02:52] <Roge152> Makes for a clean desktop
[02:52] <log> waxstone: It's gotten much, much better in the 12.04 beta.
[02:53] <Roge152> waxstone: not as many as kde, I tried kde a few times, and everything would crash
[02:53] <dmrlulz> how do i stop X from resetting back to mirror-mode when i log out and go back to gdm/lightdm?
[02:53] <Roge152> Im running the beta log, seems fine so far.
[02:53] <log> Roge152: Ah. For future reference, all development version support is in #ubuntu+1. :)
[02:53] <waxstone> log, Roge152: sweet! cant wait
[02:53] <Roge152> thaks
[02:53] <Roge152> thanks*
[02:54] <log> You're welcome, Roge152.
[02:54] <log> waxstone: It's going to be an awesome release. LTS one at that.
[02:54] <dmrlulz> is there some way to dump my current monitors.xml enhanced X settings into an xorg.conf?
[02:55] <JoseeAntonioR> Is there any op over here?
[02:55] <log> JoseeAntonioR: You can find the ops in #ubuntu-ops if you need to discuss something with them privately.
[02:59] <danielboston26> who here bought a new ipad today?
[03:00] <waxstone> !ot| danielboston26
[03:01] <danielboston26> lets start a flame war
[03:01] <danielboston26> emacs vs vi
[03:01] <dmrlulz> danielboston26: some of us are trying to fix stuff
[03:01] <JoseeAntonioR> danielboston26: Please, follow the bot instructions. This is a support channel.
[03:02] <danielboston26> what would you rathe rdo fix stuff or have fun
[03:03] <dmrlulz> does anyone know what gnome does with monitors.xml to change the display?
[03:06] <Joneeetux> bein' a live cd fanatic, i booted a couple recently; they asked for username and password!  I did not know what to do to continue??
[03:07] <Joneeetux> I was wantin to try PC/OS regular build.  But the live cd wants password and username.  Anyone had this??
[03:08] <Joneeetux> How can a live cd want a username and password ??
[03:09] <Joneeetux> This do not make any sense.
[03:10] <Joneeetux> Has anyone tried to boot a live environment, and then it ask for username and pwd, before let you continue?
[03:10] <berith> Hi
[03:11] <genbattle> i'm trying to build a program on ubuntu 64, but it keeps failing because it apparently can't find the GL library. GL is installed to /usr/lib64 but not /usr/lib, so i'm guessing this is what's causing the problem.
[03:11] <genbattle> error: http://paste.debian.net/160076/
[03:11] <Joneeetux> How you logon to a live cd session, if you not have a username and pwd??
[03:12] <JoseeAntonioR> Joneeetux: You don't need one, the desktop opens itself :)
[03:12] <Joneeetux> Anyone??
[03:12] <Joneeetux> It would not for me.
[03:12] <plipp> Joneeetux: The same way you logon to a normal desktop - you don't log into other people's accounts. :p
[03:13] <Joneeetux> I just wanted to try PC/OS as a live session on my new netbook.
[03:13] <JoseeAntonioR> Joneeetux: If it doesn't work, try with username ubuntu, and no password
[03:13] <psusi> Joneeetux, the livecd auto logs in by default... user: ubuntu, no password
[03:14] <Joneeetux> I'll try "user", or "ubuntu".
[03:14] <Jordan_U> danielboston26: Since you're not responding to my PMs I will now change your temporary quiet to a permanent ban. If you'd like to discuss this ban please join #ubuntu-ops.
[03:14] <Joneeetux> Thank You.  This may be the tip I needed.
[03:19] <Zaitzev> hm, i did "unity --reset" in terminal and the stuff reset, but the terminal apparently didn't end the operation; it's not back to the promptline and if I close it unity crashes/quits
[03:20] <carlosqueso> Zaitzev, you have to put an & after it
[03:21] <Zaitzev> doh ofc
[03:22] <Zaitzev> somehow I notice now that the system is a lot more responsive than before the reset
[03:22] <Zaitzev> most noticeably is when I click and drag an open window around, it doesn't actually "lag" any.
[03:22] <Zaitzev> it does to some extent, but not as much.
[03:23] <carlosqueso> you must be killing something laggy....I never used unity, switched to lubuntu when ATI stopped supporting my GPU
[03:23] <Zaitzev> which makes me wonder, why does it even lag? is compiz that cpu intensive or something? oO
[03:23] <Roge152> yeah, I must admit. I notice some lag myself on the desktop
[03:24] <Zaitzev> for example, I click and hold on the titlebar of a window
[03:24] <Zaitzev> I can drag the mouse pointer across the opposite screen edge, and the window still hasn't followed.
[03:24] <Roge152> wow, that's pretty bad
[03:25] <Zaitzev> and the next time I try, it follows, albeit laggy, jittering sort of
[03:37] <Zaitzev> does anyone here actually use Ubuntu One? It's what, 5 gigs of space for free?
[03:37] <Guest75353> yes
[03:38] <Visitor_099> I'm on Ubuntu server 10.01 (or something like that) : I'm attempting the remove the "minbif-common" package installed with aptitude and I get the following message : http://pastebin.com/zfSXPEhj
[03:38] <rodhash> 35 00 17 03 * /usr/bin/xclock
[03:38] <rodhash> Hello guys!! Why this line doesn't work on crontab? In the prompt it works as usual...
[03:39] <rodhash> CRON[22713]: (CRON) error (grandchild #22714 failed with exit status 1)
[03:39] <rodhash> CRON[22713]: (CRON) info (No MTA installed, discarding output)
[03:39] <rodhash> I found this on logs
[03:39] <Jordan_U> rodhash: $DISPLAY needs to be set.
[03:40] <rodhash> Jordan_U, good point... how can I do that pls?
[03:41] <Guest75353> "can't open framebuffer device",who know how to solve that
[03:41] <Visitor_099> this is related I think : http://osdir.com/ml/debian-bugs-dist/2010-01/msg09978.html
[03:41] <Visitor_099> how should I fix this?
[03:43] <arulmozhi> anybody has experrience with wxStyledTextCtrl?????
[03:44] <kesi> Hi all, this may not be the right place to ask this but I'm trying to install a program on Ocelot that needs the full path to the JDK and I can't figure out what to give it. I know I have Java 6 and 7 openJDK's installed
[03:44] <Visitor_099> I commented out the problematic line in the uninstall script and I'll do it manually.
[03:47] <d21anthony> Has anyone experienced an issue where your screen/display changes to a greyish and gets pixelated?
[03:48] <d21anthony> I think its a graphics driver issue but im not sure how to test that
[03:49] <d21anthony> I have a Samsung NP300U1A-A01US
[03:50] <d21anthony> I recently learned that I have a 64 bit processor and I'm currently installing the 64bit version - 11.10
[03:51] <jtrucks> so lucid only has irssi 0.8.14. Is there a package for 0.8.15 somewhere? I'm trying to find one..
[03:53] <d21anthony> Im crossing my fingers that was the issue but its probably not the true issu
[03:53] <d21anthony> How can I test or see if Im using the correct drivers in CLI or UI
[03:57] <kesi> If a program wants the path to the JDK in Ocelot, what would that be?
[03:59] <dr_willis> jtrucks:  look for a ppa or use source.  or use weechat like I. do.  :)
[04:00] <jtrucks> dr_willis: heh. I'm too deep in my irssi config t switch.
[04:00] <jtrucks> ppa?
[04:00] <dr_willis> !ppa
[04:01] <jtrucks> ahhh. okay cool thanks.
[04:01] <jtrucks> I got bit by someo f the ssl bugs hardcore yesterday
[04:01] <dr_willis> shouldent be too hard to compile new irssi
[04:02] <dr_willis> I never can get the ssl sasl stuff working on freenode
[04:04] <sambagirl> is there a special build or version of virtual box for ubuntu?
[04:04] <dr_willis> !vbox
[04:04] <trishxo> how to run a .exe application?
[04:04] <trishxo> like a keygen cracker
[04:04] <dr_willis> not really a special  build
[04:05] <dr_willis> trishxo:  with. wine.       wine foo.exe
[04:05] <sambagirl> ok
[04:05] <trishxo> dr_willis: i have wine, it wouldn't run.
[04:05] <dr_willis> !appdb
[04:05] <trishxo> dr_willis: installations run tho.
[04:06] <dr_willis> run it from term
[04:06] <dr_willis>  look for errors
[04:06] <trishxo> dr_willis: how to run from term lol
[04:06] <dr_willis> i showed how above.....
[04:06] <dr_willis> wine foo.exe
[04:08] <gdea73> hey Ubuntu users :) - I'm back with a fresh install of 10.10 (for now), and got the WiFi working again. Now I'm back to try getting fglrx up.
[04:09] <quincy> Is anybody else unable to change screen brightness after hibernating?
[04:10] <gdea73> quincy: I haven't heard of that problem before. If you'd like I can try to do so on my laptop and let you know what happens?
[04:10] <gdea73> though suspend/hibernate are usually problematic in various ways :P
[04:11] <Ian_Moone> How do I delete the last panel?
[04:11] <quincy> geda73 no you don't have to, it's a pain.
[04:11] <quincy> I wasn't sure if it was just me
[04:11] <Ian_Moone> Then, can I add it back?
[04:12] <gdea73> Ian_Moone, you can revert the panels using a revert panels script. I can provide it... if I find it...
[04:12] <hwq001> might be a noob question : can eAccelerator+memcache  work together (just single server)? or i just need to use one of them
[04:12] <gdea73> Ian_Moone: if you want all panels gone, I think you just have to terminate the gnome-panel process
[04:12] <gdea73> quincy: lol too late, the laptop's hibernating now. Let me wake it up and see. Though if I've noticed, suspend/hibernate issues are *common* but usually non-specific; depends on hardware greatly.
[04:13] <Ian_Moone> @gdea73 I want to get rid of them and use a dock, but if I don't like it, I want to put it back.
[04:13] <quincy> gdea73: lol alright
[04:13] <dr_willis> its normally easier to make a custome x session then removeing the panels
[04:13] <gdea73> Ian_Moone: okay, I am pretty sure that's doable. Well first try ending the gnome-panel(s?) process in Gnome System Montior
[04:14] <dr_willis> webupd8 site had an artical on that
[04:14] <gdea73> you can relaunch it by either running it as a command, or doing sudo start gnome-panel(s?)
[04:14] <gdea73> I'm not very sure though
[04:14] <gdea73> dr_willis: go ahead and take over, I'm kind of guessing here..
[04:14] <dr_willis> you dont want sudo with rhat
[04:14] <gdea73> wow hibernation takes forever with 6GB of RAM, but brightness still worked @quincy ;)
[04:15] <Ian_Moone> @gdea73 it self-restarts.
[04:15] <trishxo> how to join another room?
[04:15] <gdea73> dr_willis: my bad.... :P
[04:15] <gdea73> trishxo: ... /join #channelname?
[04:15] <quincy> hmm.. alright, thanks gdea73
[04:15] <gdea73> Ian_Moone: ah, that's what I thought... hmm... better have dr_willis help you if he's willing, he is likely more knowledgeable about this
[04:16] <Ian_Moone> Okay. Thanks. Where do I find him?
[04:16] <Ian_Moone> this room?
[04:16] <gdea73> yes, he seemed to know something about the subject, though I can't speak on his behalf
[04:16] <gdea73> dr_willis: if you have any advice to help him disable gnome-panel for a dock-only configuration, I think he'd need/appreciate it ;)
[04:17] <Ian_Moone> dr_willis: Yes. he's right. I would appreciate it
[04:17] <Ian_Moone> gdea73: Thanks
[04:18] <gdea73> well in the meantime I suppose I can try to help, Ian_Moone.
[04:18] <gdea73> What version of Ubuntu are you using? (Are you running Gnome 2 or 3?)
[04:19] <gdea73> Ian_Moone: This may be helpfuo to you, though I'm not sure to which version of Ubuntu it pertains: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7987602&postcount=4
[04:19] <scientes> why arn't my gvfs ssh not showing up in ~/.gvfs POSIX?
[04:20] <scientes> has FUSE mounting been turned into a privlidged operation in some way?
[04:21] <Ian_Moone> gdea73: Thanks, but (I found that on my own a little bit ago) I don't have a "gnome" folder there.
[04:22] <gdea73> hmm... again, what release/version of Ubuntu?
[04:22] <gdea73> @general channel: I've installed fglrx, now how could I possibly configure it for each adapter so I can switch them on each reboot (if I so decide?)
[04:22] <gdea73> haha, must I install ubunu twice with the same home and swap, and swap OSes by each boot? o.O
[04:23] <twoboxen> Does anyone know how ubuntu for android will actually work?  Does it use a loop file?
[04:24] <dr_willis> Ian_Moone: webupd8 blog site had an artical on making a custome compiz session
[04:25] <dr_willis> i might have it bookmarked..   delicious.com/dr_willis
[04:25] <gdea73> I really need to know, does anyone know where the AMD Catalyst Control Center *configuation file* is? (NOT just xorg.conf; there must be one for Catalyst itself?)
[04:26] <sambagirl> never had this error in previous installs of vbox Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libpython2.7 (>= 2.7)
[04:26] <sambagirl> so i do an apt-get libpython2.7 install right?
[04:26] <dr_willis> !info libpython
[04:27] <dr_willis> sambagirl: what ubuntu version you got
[04:27] <sambagirl> 10.04 on tthis laptop
[04:28] <sambagirl> tell you what i will just update it to 10.10
[04:29] <stiLizer> hello
[04:30] <Ian_Moone> I just settled on enabling the hide buttons.
[04:30] <gdea73> sambagirl: haha yeah 10.10 FTW. I like 10.10 the best, except support for it is ending soon. 10.04 will last for a while, it's an LTS release.
[04:30] <Ian_Moone> Thanks for your help.
[04:30] <gdea73> Ian_Moone: okay, hope that works for you, I'd say it's a decent compromise. Those coupled with autohide maybe?
[04:30] <Aliv3> I have a 10.10 desktop and server iso if anyone wants them
[04:30] <gdea73> I did what I could, ;)
[04:30] <Ian_Moone> good idea
[04:30] <sambagirl> yes gdea73 i agree on other laptops we use 10.10
[04:31] <Aliv3> 11.04 was a hard fail
[04:31] <sambagirl> i fouund my 5.x hoary cd too might install that instead :D
[04:31] <gdea73> 10.10 ISOs are still available from releases.ubuntu.com, Aliv3
[04:31] <sambagirl> except we could never get wireless to work
[04:31] <dr_willis> http://delicious.com/redirect?url=http%3A//www.webupd8.org/2012/02/how-to-create-standalone-compiz-session.html
[04:31] <Aliv3> 11.10 is buggy as ... but I only like it for gnome3
[04:31] <ApocGoD> Anyone know anything about the X1650 drivers on Ubuntu 11.10?
[04:32] <dr_willis> no panels needed...
[04:32] <Aliv3> in my opinion unity is trashed
[04:32] <ApocGoD> I'm running Gnome 3
[04:32] <dr_willis> in my oponion people like to complain too much... :)
[04:32] <Aliv3> ApocGoD: Gnome 3 is pretty nice though hu?
[04:33] <Aliv3> dr_willis: true, true.
[04:33] <gdea73> YEAH! I got Hybrid Graphics to work (well enough? :D)
[04:33] <Aliv3> I mainly say this is because I get so many errors from it and dash is broken my applications don't show I've fixed it a couple times but it keeps breaking, and it locks up my system
[04:33] <gdea73> if anyone ever wants to know, ever... I enabled the discrete graphics in BIOS, installed Catalyst, KEPT catalyst on the powerful GPU setting
[04:34] <gdea73> and then rebooted, disabled the discrete graphics in BIOS, and Catalyst just uses the most "powerful" available, which is then just the integrated GPU :D
[04:34] <gdea73> so it works, including a BIOS setting change and reboot, but that's still awesome
[04:34] <dr_willis> unity nd gnome shell are both wwworks in progress.. both are much better in the 12.x release
[04:35] <szal> wwworks?
[04:35] <dr_willis> yyyyyes
[04:35] <Aliv3> 12.04 won't install
[04:36] <Aliv3> whats the command for distro upgrade +1 again?
[04:36] <dr_willis> i always clean install
[04:38] <dr_willis> i wonder if dirty nick changeing every min is a kickable offense...
[04:39] <gdea73> lol, yes, I wonder... :P
[04:40] <kalimojo> OTS CHANGING LIKE PASTING
[04:40] <kalimojo> its
[04:42] <Nicolas_Leonida2> hello
[04:42] <dr_willis> jello!
[04:43] <szal> yello(w)?
[04:43] <Nicolas_Leonida2> I'm looking for a free dynamic dns service that would have a client for ubuntu
[04:43] <dr_willis> Nicolas_Leonida2:  most do. dyndns works
[04:43] <dr_willis> others exist also.
[04:43] <jecky_> hello
[04:43] <Nicolas_Leonida2> dr_willis: what is the client I should use that I need to install to update the IP when it changes?
[04:44] <dr_willis> my router supports like 4 of thhem. i rarely need a client on the os.
[04:44] <dr_willis> !find dyndns
[04:44] <jecky_> hello i am new to git does any one has solution that how can i learn git fast
[04:44] <dr_willis> !info dyndns
[04:45] <dr_willis> !info tinydyndns
[04:45] <Nicolas_Leonida2> dr_willis: I've heard other people suggesting dyndns as well, but it doesn't seem to be free (maybe it was before) http://dyn.com/dns/free-vs-vip/
[04:45] <Nicolas_Leonida2> they expire your hostname after 30 days
[04:45] <dr_willis> Nicolas_Leonida2:  if its not used.. they expire
[04:46] <mkultra_> im gonna try 12.04 beta
[04:46] <dr_willis> ive been using dyndns for free for a year+ free as of last week...
[04:46] <mkultra_> im not digging 11.10
[04:46] <sacarlson> jecky_: might take a look at gitg  gui for git
[04:46] <mkultra_> i found a service thats free that u dont have to login to all the t ime
[04:46] <jecky__> oh tht's nice
[04:46] <dr_willis> basic dyndns service works for me
[04:47] <mkultra_> yeah i dont like it
[04:47] <dr_willis> i just use it to point to my znc server mainly
[04:47] <jecky__> sacarlson_ where will I find the gitg gui? as i m new to git
[04:47] <mkultra_> maybe no-ip.com?
[04:48] <szal> mkultra_: isn't that DynDNS too?
[04:48] <jecky__> i have installed git and worked little but interested in learning more
[04:48] <sacarlson> jecky__: sudo apt-get install gitg ; should do it
[04:48] <jecky__> thanx
[04:48] <mkultra_> idk, my stuffs on my server =(
[04:48] <mkultra_> id have to consult its configs, and its at home, im at college
[04:50] <mkultra_> it will mail me in 6 months to tell me whats up
[04:50] <sattu94> dr_willis, which router do you have ?
[04:50] <jecky__> sacarlson_ Gitg has been setup in  my machine so how can i access it now
[04:51] <dr_willis> sattu94:  just a linksys valet i think. last 3 ive had all support several dynamic dns services
[04:51] <jecky__> sacarlson_ and one more question how can i upload file on git which is located on my machine?
[04:52] <dr_willis> !ops Smell_Dinglehopp  Is being stupid....
[04:53] <dr_willis> oops..
[04:53] <sacarlson> jecky__: it should be in your application programing section to bring it up or just type gitg in a term,  upload I guess you want to look at github.com
[04:53] <jecky__> yea how can i see a file on github.com?
[04:53] <sattu94> dr_willis, mine supports only DynDNS... which is not free anymore.. so I have to use the No-IP2 desktop client.. :(
[04:54] <szal> dr_willis: looks to me like either a script or malware
[04:54] <Nicolas_Leonida2> dr_willis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1933291 no more free dyndns :(
[04:54] <jecky__> sacarlson_ Yea i found gitg and i want to upload a file in github.com so how is it possible?
[04:54] <sattu94> Nicolas_Leonida2, yes it isnt free anymore.. I use No-IP2..
[04:55] <sacarlson> jecky__: you can see individual files in your browser or git clone  http://github.com/nameofrepository
[04:55] <Nicolas_Leonida2> sattu94: that's the client name? or the website?
[04:56] <kalimojo> why do people keep changing their nicks. i mean whats the point
[04:56] <sattu94> Nicolas_Leonida2, the whole thing is called no-ip2
[04:56] <szal> kalimojo: see above
[04:57] <sacarlson> jecky__: http://help.github.com/create-a-repo/
[04:57] <sattu94> Nicolas_Leonida2, website--> http://www.no-ip.com
[04:57] <perl_jam> what's a good perl ide for linux?
[04:57] <kalimojo> szat : above where ?
[04:58] <tm_> disk has error what to do,  64 bit lts versoiopn
[04:58] <szal> kalimojo: [05:54:02] <szal> dr_willis: looks to me like either a script or malware <- and fix your IRC font so you can properly read letters, or use tab completion ;)
[04:59] <tm_> should i burn another disk? :P
[05:00] <szal> tm_: (1) check checksum of ISO; (2) burn or dub to USB drive, in case of burning preferably use half max speed; (3) boot; (4) run self test routine to check integrity
[05:01] <lwizardl> hello
[05:01] <Sph3r3> Hi everyone! :)
[05:01] <mkultra_> hi
[05:01] <ApocGoD> Can someone help me find the Radeon X1650 drivers for 11.10?
[05:01] <Sph3r3> does anyone know how to set up the backup to save to a windows share?
[05:01] <lwizardl> anyone know what .config/trolltech.conf is on root directory ?
[05:02] <szal> ApocGoD: afaik, that card is too old to be supported by the proprietary driver; thus your only option is the free radeon driver
[05:02] <jecky__> sacarlson_ what can be the name of repository?
[05:03] <dr_willis> Sph3r3:  mount the share somewhere. save to it as you would any other directory
[05:03] <szal> !pm | ApocGoD
[05:03] <sacarlson> jecky__: anything less than 20 leters I guess,  browse the site to get an idea
[05:04] <jecky__> sacarlson_ ok thanks i m checking for it
[05:05] <ApocGoD> Sorry, Szal. Forgot the command to return your whisper.
[05:07] <gdea73> yay, I got hybrid graphics to work! (woo!)
[05:07] <emu> Are most usb drives nowadays bootable?
[05:07] <gdea73> as a result, I couldn't help myself, but to advertise my "guide," in my old thread
[05:07] <gdea73> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11769285&postcount=1
[05:08] <gdea73> ... um... you can ... disregard that. sorry, you can get back to whatever troubleshoooting
[05:08] <gdea73> emu: I'm not sure of the context, but usually USB drives are bootable, it's more a question of the BIOS support for it.
[05:08] <rodhash> Guys... my compiz became too unstable after some upgrade... is that possible to roll back?
[05:09] <Sph3r3> dr_willis: thanks - I just needed a static IP so the backup system could mount it
[05:10] <dr_willis> Sph3r3:  a fstab entry can do that.
[05:12] <dr_willis> !ops
[05:12] <dr_willis> annoying bot/spam/malware ...
[05:13] <Jordan_U> dr_willis: Who, where?
[05:14] <KindOne> that nick ^ Dookie_Diarrhea_
[05:14] <dr_willis> there ya go...
[05:14] <dr_willis> nick changeing every 60 sec..
[05:18] <phy1729> To run sshfs on the server only ssh has to be installed is what I've read; however, I'm getting a "remote host has disconnected" error
[05:18] <dr_willis> remote host has ssh server installed?
[05:19] <phy1729> yes
[05:19] <phy1729> I am using public key and have ssh'd into the server sucessfully
[05:20] <szal> phy1729: a case of remote host disconnecting after $time of inactivity?
[05:20] <phy1729> szal: it gives the error immedatly I can't connect
[05:20] <dr_willis> sshfs might support the -v or -vv option for verbose error messages
[05:21] <phy1729> -o sshfs_debug is unhelpful as well
[05:26] <drounse> i have a few questions
[05:28] <drounse> if you use a dhcp server can you have a wireless router plugged into it?
[05:28] <phy1729> I would see running sshfs sudo'd creates problems
[05:28] <phy1729> So I just chown'd and went on my merry way
[05:30] <drounse> so if my setup went: modem--> dhcp server--> switch--> wireless router
[05:30] <drounse> would it conflict ip addresses if things were connected to my switch and the wireless router
[05:31] <szal> just set them to use different IP ranges, don't see the problem
[05:31] <drounse> szal ok thank you
[05:32] <drounse> and one more question, im fixing someones computer, they found it at their new business but the hard drives are RAID 0 if i mount that in linux am i going to get two mounts or one mount
[05:34] <karan> #kernel
[05:38] <dr_willis> drounse:  the controller they are using may be the imporntant issue.
[05:38] <Maskil> I have a question about Cinnamon and Gnome shell if anyone is around
[05:38] <szal> "imporntant".. :O
[05:38] <hydrox24_> Maskil: go ahead!
[05:39] <drounse> ok, right now its not starting but i need to take a good look at it tomorrow
[05:39] <Maskil> I have loaded Gnome Shell before, and then wanted to try out cinnamon
[05:39] <dr_willis> but since cinamom isent a ubuntu project.. dont be suprised if we dont know
[05:39] <Maskil> loaded cinnamon, and was really using it
[05:39] <Maskil> Computer crashed, and I needed to reload
[05:40] <Maskil> I have installed Cinnamon, but it's not the same
[05:40] <dr_willis> crashed how? reload what.
[05:40] <Maskil> should I also have gnome shell installed?
[05:40] <Maskil> reloaded OS
[05:40] <dr_willis> must of been a nasty crash
[05:40] <hydrox24_> drounse: you still there?
[05:40] <drounse> hydrox24_ yea
[05:41] <Maskil> I am trying to keep things streamlined as possible
[05:41] <hydrox24_> to mount the two drives as RAID 0, use the mdadm command like so:
[05:41] <dr_willis> could be cinnamon has been updated with new defaults
[05:41] <hydrox24_> mdadm --assemble /dev/md5 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1
[05:41] <hydrox24_> but with the numbers adjusted appropriately.
[05:42] <hydrox24_> then, run the mount command for /dev/md5 like so:
[05:42] <funkiwan> wondering if anyone can help me with an osx boot issue, or tell me where i should ask?
[05:42] <hydrox24_> mount /dev/md5 /media/WHATEVEr
[05:42] <drounse> hydrox24_ ok thank you
[05:43] <hydrox24_> drounse: no problem, see http://www.wikihow.com/Convert-a-Linux-RAID-0-Disk-Array-to-a-RAID-1 for more details
[05:43] <cfoch3> hello
[05:43] <Maskil> ok.  Thank you
[05:43] <p3rsist>  Hi guys. Im trying to append another public key (from a second host) to the remote authorized_keys host, but it doesn't work. Do I have to use authorized_keys2?
[05:43] <cfoch3> my name is Fabián Orccón
[05:43] <hydrox24_> funkiwan: if it is to do with ubuntu in some way then simply ask away, if not, try the official apple lines
[05:44] <drounse> i know this isnt ubuntu related, but does pfsense act as a dhcp server?
[05:44] <cfoch3> I'm a guy from Perú who has used Ubuntu since 2008
[05:44] <cfoch3> but... it doesn't matter
[05:44] <cfoch3> I have a plan
[05:44] <cfoch3> or maybe a fantasy
[05:44] <hydrox24_> p3rsist: see http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-multiple-ssh-key-based-authentication.html
[05:45] <funkiwan> yeah, not an ubuntu issue, i've just had good luck here in the past with my linux issues. was wondering if there's an apple/osx friendly channel
[05:45] <hydrox24_> cfoch3: This souds like it will be cool, but it would be better to post on a forum (atleast after you've told us :)) so that it is always there forever for anyone to see.
[05:46] <cfoch3> I think the only way to diffuse the free software is selling a distro
[05:46] <szal> cfoch3: any of that has something to do w/ support?
[05:46] <dr_willis> 'diffuse' ? and you can sell distros..  so.. whats the actual  support issue
[05:47] <cfoch3> not just that
[05:47] <cfoch3> that's stupid now
[05:47] <cfoch3> why?
[05:47]  * dr_willis is waits for an actual 'point'
[05:47] <drounse> dr_willis how do you do that?
[05:47] <cfoch3> there is a little bit of publicity
[05:47] <dr_willis> so far you have said very little cfoch3 ...
[05:48] <hydrox24_> cfoch3: what do you mean by diffuse?
[05:49] <cfoch3> make linux the most used operative system
[05:49] <cfoch3> what do we need?
[05:49] <szal> cfoch3: have fun waiting for that day
[05:49] <drounse> cfoch3 you dont want it to be the most used
[05:49] <dr_willis> linux is gaining in that every day...
[05:50] <Jordan_U> !ot | cfoch3
[05:50] <cfoch3> the most have to be convinced that there is an operative system better than the common
[05:51] <zykotic10> !info saidar
[05:51] <cfoch3> ok
[05:51] <drounse> cfoch3 once linux becomes the most used (which it will never be) it will be cluttered with pay services and that junk
[05:52] <cfoch3> i want to think you're moderating, and not you don't matter it
[05:53] <dr_willis> or it will be so commonplace users dont even think about the os and focus on the apps.
[05:53] <Jordan_U> drounse: dr_willis: As I said to cfoch3, please move this discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[05:53] <cfoch3> if somebody is interested, I'll be in #ubuntu-offtopic talking about that
[05:53] <dr_willis> but enough rambling. ;) any real support issues
[05:54] <drounse> cfoch3 well if i remember correctly about the license, even if you pay for it the end consumer needs to recieve the source and then can give it away for free
[05:54] <cfoch3> I'm in #ubuntu-offtopic now
[05:57] <scientes> what type of disk space waste do you get (in terms of stale files) if you take a 10.04 liveCD and then install all the updates
[05:57] <scientes> is there a way to measure the amount of stale files?
[05:57] <ubntu1> proprietary drivers arent working for shit ;-;
[05:57]  * zykotic10 thinks the "post pc era" translates to post microsoft.  ubuntu's bug 1 might be within reach?  do more people use andorid or microsoft for there day-to-day lives? </OT>
[05:58] <dr_willis> scientes:  never really heard of much wasted space. perhaps backed up conffigs
[05:58] <scientes> dr_willis, no i'm talking with the squashfs?
[05:58] <scientes> like a usb stick install
[05:59] <scientes> i'm wondering how btrfs vs overlayfs w/ squashfs xz compare on this
[06:00] <dr_willis> scientes:  you mean a persistant save file setup on a live-flash setup
[06:00] <scientes> dr_willis, yeah
[06:00] <scientes> like how does it compare with using btrfs ro snapshot
[06:00] <dr_willis> scientes:  i normally people to not 'update/upgrade' such a setup. but to do a full normal install
[06:01] <scientes> and how much better is squashfs vs a r/w filesystem
[06:01] <tanath> can anyone tell me why i always get an authentication error when i install packages that create a new user?
[06:01] <scientes> dr_willis, i'm not talking about "normal" im talking about a hypothetical
[06:01] <tanath> it asks for a password, and then doesn't accept it
[06:01] <tanath> http://pastebin.com/99WZ1TDt
[06:01] <scientes> I want a "factory reset" functionality
[06:02] <dr_willis> scientes:  no idea then. im all about what ive done for 'real'
[06:02] <tanath> scientes, like what you get from 'lethe'?
[06:03] <scientes> tanath, its not packaged, and the sf page is in french
[06:03] <kanliot> how do you reboot in unity
[06:04] <kanliot> ?
[06:04] <scientes> tanath, ubuntu livecd does it with overlayfs
[06:04] <tanath> scientes, nevertheless, it works. you install and set up, and when you reboot it's back as it was
[06:04] <scientes> using squashfs
[06:04] <dr_willis> kanliot:  logout/exit somthhing in top right menu item
[06:04] <tanath> scientes, like deep freeze for windows
[06:04] <scientes> tanath, no, i want to allow modifications, but ALLOW a factory reset
[06:04] <scientes> not REQUIRE
[06:04] <scientes> there is a difference
[06:04] <kanliot> nope, just shutdown and suspend.  no reboot
[06:05] <tanath> scientes, you boot thawed for that
[06:05] <scientes> and with squashfs it would be more compressed
[06:05] <Fyodorovna> kanliot, the shutdown leads to a reboot or shutdown gui.
[06:05] <scientes> cause its specifically designed for ro
[06:05] <dr_willis> shutdown asks.. i thought. but im on 12.x
[06:05] <afsal> how to install jahshaka???
[06:06] <tanath> scientes, then reboot back into frozen mode after making changes
[06:06] <kanliot> i'm on 12.04 too.  still can't find reboot.  thanks anyhow.  :)
[06:06] <scientes> tanath, oh, its based on aufs
[06:06] <tanath> scientes, then any changes don't stick
[06:06] <scientes> aufs is no longer in lubuntu kernel, they have moved to overlayfs, which might get merged
[06:06] <dr_willis> kanliot:  shutdown - reboot in the dialog . i recall
[06:07] <scientes> tanath, ahhh i gotcha, that is a differn't use case than i have thought of, useful software, but i dont think its what i want
[06:07] <scientes> tanath, if you use btrfs with snapshots you can do the same thing, but in real time, without rebooting
[06:07] <tanath> scientes, if you want to be able to go back to original setup before any changes, then make a separate backup
[06:07] <scientes> (well you have to reboot to go backwards on your main disk most likely, might cause stability problems otherwise)
[06:08] <afsal> anybody know how to install jahshaka??? any repository??
[06:08]  * zykotic10 thinks "sudo shutdown -r now" would probably work
[06:08] <scientes> tanath, that just wastes alot of space
[06:08] <tanath> scientes, sounds functionally like a virtual machine
[06:08] <dr_willis> !ppa
[06:08] <scientes> but i guess we could do it on a dvd
[06:08] <tanath> scientes, how so?
[06:08] <harsh343> I got an error http://pastebin.com/Dn1nNYkW Unable to MOunt MAIN what i can do ?
[06:08] <scientes> tanath, two copies of everything
[06:08] <harsh343> please help me I am newbie in ubuntu
[06:08] <dr_willis> sounds like stuff tinycore. or puppylinux is doing.. but im just skimming thr channel
[06:08] <tanath> scientes, a single backup of original setup so you can do a real 'factory reset' ?
[06:09] <tanath> scientes, not of everything, just of the _original_ setup
[06:09] <harsh343> dr_willis, hi
[06:09] <scientes> tanath, yeah, its cooler, if you can actually  use the original setup, while also not changing it, and keeping your changes
[06:09] <tanath> scientes, in case you make changes you regret
[06:09] <scientes> anyways, it seems you arn't thinking as much about what is possible
[06:11] <Splooshie123> harsh343, are you trying to mount an ntfs partition?
[06:11] <scientes> dr_willis, is it possible to install the liveCD installer on a normal system, then burn it to a CD, and use it as an install CD?
[06:11] <tanath> can anyone explain why this always fails? won't accept any password: http://pastebin.com/99WZ1TDt
[06:11] <zykotic10> Splooshie123: all the NTFS stuff would seem to indicate yes ;)
[06:12] <harsh343> Splooshie123, rightnow i am not trying anything I have install XP and ubuntu some month before anyways it working fine before but from some days problem occurs with my D Drive when i click on D drive in ubuntu i got this message, while in XP it works fine
[06:12] <Splooshie123> try installing ntfsprogs
[06:12] <emu> Is Ubuntu netbook remix still a thing?
[06:12] <tanath> scientes, btrfs looks interesting
[06:13] <zykotic10> emu: no, it's Unity - which is now the desktop install
[06:13] <harsh343> Splooshie123, hows ?
[06:13] <Splooshie123> harsh343, what about your C drive? can you mount that?
[06:13] <scientes> tanath, SuSe and fedora are probably going to use it by default in the semi-near future
[06:13] <Splooshie123> sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[06:14] <harsh343> Splooshie123, C drive open fine
[06:14] <harsh343> only problem with D Drive not open
[06:14] <harsh343> in ubuntu
[06:14] <tanath> scientes, doesn't seem to be anything in ubuntu repos for making btrfs file systems. my gparted lacks the ability...
[06:15] <emu> zykotic10: Thanks
[06:15] <scientes> tanath, what version are you using?
[06:15] <tanath> scientes, ubuntu? gparted? parted?
[06:15] <scientes> ubuntu
[06:15] <dr_willis> scientes:  you mean make a custome instller cd that way?
[06:15] <tanath> 11.10
[06:15] <scientes> dr_willis, yeah
[06:15] <harsh343> what i can do ?
[06:15] <scientes> with a decent work-flow for development
[06:16] <scientes> tanath, apt-get install btrfs-tools
[06:16] <scientes> my root is btrfs
[06:16] <dr_willis> scientes:  it will do a normal install. your persistant file changes will not get moved over
[06:16] <tanath> scientes, that must be from a custom/3rd-party repo
[06:17] <tanath> scientes, wait... what
[06:17] <tanath> scientes, installing it worked, but it wouldn't show up in search
[06:17] <ApocGoD> st
[06:17] <ApocGoD> Ok, i'm ordering a new video card to use with Ubuntu 11.10, what should I get?
[06:17] <ApocGoD> I have a 90$ limit, lol
[06:18] <dr_willis> ApocGoD:  a nvidia thats been out for a while...
[06:18] <scientes> tanath, you have to click "show technical items" if you are in software-center
[06:18] <harsh343> dr_willis, any help
[06:18] <tanath> scientes, using apt-cache
[06:18] <dr_willis> harsh343:  with what?
[06:19] <ApocGoD> Thanks.
[06:19] <mrcaesard> how do u guys like ubuntu?
[06:19] <tanath> scientes, never use software center. terminal or synaptic
[06:19] <dr_willis> mrcaesard:  it works.. got a support question?
[06:19] <harsh343> I got an error http://pastebin.com/Dn1nNYkW Unable to MOunt MAIN what i can do ?
[06:19] <zykotic10> ApocGoD: in a perfect world i'd suggest intel (but wait, they don't make "cards"), so nvidia with it's propritary driver gets my vote.  ATI was SO late in the game, when nvidia could run 3d under linux/bsd/solaris.
[06:20] <tanath> or gdebi
[06:20] <lifestream> I'm trying to style a gtkrc file but I can't figure out the styleproprety for this "gripper". If you open thunar, then open the sidebar, see how there's a gripper to adjust the width? What's that styleproprety called? Thanks!
[06:20] <ApocGoD> Ok, Zykotic10. Will be checking out Nvidia real quick.
[06:21] <harsh343> dr_willis, error Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 13: ntfs_attr_pread_i: Zero run length: Input/output error
[06:21] <dr_willis> harsh343:  if its a ntfs partion have windows fix it .
[06:21] <scientes> tanath, what did you use to install btrfs-tools?
[06:21] <dr_willis> harsh343:  io error = disk may be dieing
[06:21] <harsh343> dr_willis, in windows D drive works fine but not in ubuntu so what i can do ?
[06:21] <zykotic10> dr_willis: +1 on I/O probably means dieing
[06:22] <harsh343> but some days before it works fine for me
[06:22] <tanath> scientes, aptitude
[06:22] <scientes> ahh gotcha
[06:22] <tanath> scientes, er, apt-get, since i pasted
[06:22] <ApocGoD> How do I whisper you back, Zykotic10?
[06:22] <tanath> scientes, weird, gparted still won't let me make btrfs
[06:22] <scientes> yeah aptitude has all sorts of wierd groupings so you have to hit "/" "<enter>" alot to search around
[06:22] <zykotic10> ApocGoD: don't ;)  just kidding "/msg zykotic10 foo"
[06:23] <tanath> scientes, oh, i just pass paramaters and use it like apt-get. don't really use the interface
[06:23] <dr_willis> harsh343:  and last week my goldfish was fine.. now hes dead...
[06:23] <dr_willis> harsh343:  ;)
[06:23] <tanath> scientes, main benefit is it's easier to type since at the 'i' you can use tab for autocomplete :P
[06:24] <scientes> tanath, well, there certainly are many ways to skin a cat in the debian world
[06:24] <tanath> mm
[06:24] <scientes> haha, yeah i always mistype install isntall
[06:25] <zykotic10> ApocGoD: sorry, feel free to PM me :)
[06:26] <zykotic10> ApocGoD: OH, if you're not registered maybe you cant!
[06:26] <zykotic10> can someone who isn't registered on freenode try and PM me please.  (strange request i know)
[06:26] <zenith> hello guys. i have an strange question. does any of you know an application for ubuntu that lets you store files in your yahoo mail account? There are apps for windows, but i haven't found any for linux
[06:27] <tanath> scientes, oh, i think i figured it. unallocated space was too small :P will let me do it to a usb
[06:27] <dr_willis> i never can rember the mode setting for that zykotic10
[06:27] <harsh343> dr_willis, so what i can do now my goldfish is died
[06:27] <harsh343> ?
[06:27] <zykotic10> dr_willis: lol - it is because of you mentioning it the other night i have it set ;)
[06:27] <dr_willis> zenith:  perhaps some of the fuse tools.
[06:27] <zykotic10> dr_willis: +R
[06:28] <dr_willis> harsh343:  you did do as it said and let windows check the fs?
[06:28] <zenith> dr_willis, really?
[06:28] <tanath> scientes, so how would i actually make use of the fancy btrfs stuff?
[06:28] <harsh343> dr_willis, ok
[06:28] <harsh343> means it is not possible from ubuntu so solve this problem ?
[06:28] <scientes> tanath,
 mrcaesard:  it works.. got a support question?
 I got an error http://pastebin.com/Dn1nNYkW Unable to MOunt MAIN what i can do ?
[06:28] <scientes> er rsry
[06:28] <FloodBot1> scientes: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:29] <scientes> tanath, https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/
[06:29] <scientes> tanath, and https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/articles/c/o/n/Conversion_from_Ext3_6e03.html
[06:29] <zykotic10> FYI my poll attempt to get a non registered user either failed, or failed - not sure.  so ApocGoD not sure if you can msg me or not.  see "/msg ubottu register" if you can't ;)
[06:31] <tanath> scientes, can't load the second link. ssl complaint loop
[06:32] <tanath> scientes, and http forwards me to https
[06:32] <pank> .
[06:32] <tanath> scientes, make that both links
[06:34] <ApocGoD> So, i'm downloading Ubuntu 8.04
[06:34] <ApocGoD> Going to try the free option before I go out and buy a new video card, haha
[06:34] <scientes> tanath, just override the ssl error
[06:34] <rurufufuss> is there a command line tool that can access / modify the clipboard?
[06:34] <cipher__> can i develop with opengl 4.x on linux? or is mesa my only option (at spec 1.3)
[06:35] <tanath> scientes, can't. as i said, it's a loop
[06:35] <scientes> tanath, it requires a few clicks in firefox, but it works
[06:35] <tanath> scientes, i don't really use firefox
[06:35] <tanath> scientes, this looks like a possible downside of btrfs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Btrfs#Transactions
[06:36] <dr_willis> rurufufuss:  yes there are. check the repos
[06:36] <dr_willis> bbl.  battry is dead.
[06:36] <scientes> tanath, that is actually a feature that no other filesystem has
[06:36] <rurufufuss> dr_willis: what's the name of the program by any chance?
[06:36] <zykotic10> rurufufuss: i really want to say "yes" but can't remember the proof.  good luck... gnu/linux "clipboard" has been a nightmare forever (how many are there?  3 i think?)
[06:36] <scientes> tanath, you are just getting mislead by the word "very limited"
[06:36] <scientes> which is really in comparison with databases, not filesystems
[06:37] <scientes> and only a very specific type of databses at that
[06:37] <tanath> scientes, hrm, just a chrome thing it seems. prolly 'cause i block cookies by default or something
[06:37] <rurufufuss> zykotic10: well, there's the x selection (middle click) and the other one..
[06:37] <scientes> tanath, no, its much easier in chromium to override ssl errors
[06:37] <zykotic10> rurufufuss: i know at one point i could name a 3rd ;)
[06:37] <scientes> tanath, you just have to click the "go to site" button
[06:38] <tanath> scientes, i clicked proceed anyway, and it didn't work. back at same place
[06:38] <tanath> went to http, and it forwards back to https
[06:38] <scientes> tanath, wait, kernel.org's certificate is good
[06:38] <scientes> tanath, are you at work?
[06:38] <tanath> no
[06:38] <tanath> but two separate browsers have complained about it now
[06:38] <scientes> click on the blue/purple thing to the right of the url
[06:39] <scientes> *left
[06:39] <scientes> tell me what the "verified for:" says, and then click "view certifiicate"
[06:39] <scientes> (in firefox)
[06:39] <hydrox24_> ApocGoD: why are you using such an old version of ubuntu?
[06:39] <tanath> scientes, Server's certificate is not trusted
[06:40] <scientes> tanath, of course, but what does it say under "verified for"
[06:40] <scientes> after clicking that purple bar, and then clicking "more information"
[06:40] <hydrox24_> tanath: scientes is this all about that wikipedia link?
[06:40] <scientes> hydrox24_, no, its about the kernel.org ssl certificate
[06:40] <zykotic10> ApocGoD: is it ok if i try to PM you?  i think that will work.
[06:40] <frankpad> How can set Ubuntu to ignore the toner cartridge chip so I can continue printing? I know that chip is not accurate because the self-test page turns out neatly printed. I have an HP LaserJet Professional M1132 MFP.
[06:41] <tanath> scientes, *.wiki.kernel.org what you're looking for?
[06:41] <scientes> tanath, no, i'm looking for the sha1 fingerprint and the issues by organization (O)
[06:41] <hydrox24_> tanath: if you type in https://www.kernel.org instead of https://kernel.org it's fine
[06:41] <zykotic10> frankpad: if you are using the non-free hplip <- or whatever it's called, driver - then maybe not???
[06:42] <scientes> hydrox24_, we were actually using the wiki.kernel.org certificate
[06:42] <tanath> The Linux Kernel Organization & 46 49 30 F8 68 69 A9 2A A6 8A 5B 55 0A 57 F0 C0 7D AA BE 21
[06:42] <hydrox24_> ApocGoD: You still there?
[06:42] <scientes> tanath, hmm, that one should work
[06:42] <scientes> that is the same certificate i have
[06:42] <scientes> tanath, do other ssl websites work?
[06:42] <tanath> hydrox24_, first, www is deprecated. second, it's a copied url
[06:43] <scientes> like does https://encrypted.google.com/ work
[06:43] <tanath> scientes, yes
[06:43] <scientes> well fuck me i have no idea
[06:43] <hydrox24_> tanath: fair enough. but how is www. depreciated? I thought it was simply auto-completed when you typed without it in modern browsers?
[06:43] <scientes> that certificate is good
[06:44] <scientes> what i was worried about was that whole thing of some employeers using root certificates to MITM/spy on their employees
[06:44] <frankpad> zykotic10, can you help me to set Ubuntu to ignore the chip?
[06:44] <tanath> hydrox24_, www has been deprecated for a long time: http://no-www.org/
[06:44] <zykotic10> frankpad: no, sorry
[06:45] <scientes> tanath, thats just not true, google for example prefers www.google.com
[06:45] <frankpad> How can set Ubuntu to ignore the toner cartridge chip so I can continue printing? I know that chip is not accurate because the self-test page turns out neatly printed. I have an HP LaserJet Professional M1132 MFP.
[06:45] <scientes> and will redirect you, tanath
[06:45] <tanath> hydrox24_, silly sites that don't know better forward people to www.* instead of forwarding www.* to *
[06:45] <zykotic10> frankpad: what is that propritary HP driver called?
[06:45] <anjs> hello..!!!
[06:45] <tanath> scientes, that means it's not deprecated?
[06:45] <anjs> hi everyone
[06:45] <scientes> haha, that site is idiotic tanath
[06:45] <scientes> http://www.yes-www.org/
[06:46] <frankpad> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html is that it?
[06:46] <anjs> hello
[06:46] <st1> window focus is controlled by compiz right?
[06:46] <scientes> hahahah http://www.www.extra-www.org/
[06:46] <st1> or metacity ?
[06:46] <szal> !ot | scientes
[06:48] <tanath> scientes, well, whether it's deprecated or not, www is silly
[06:50] <guest0012983> hello...  can someone recommend the best available text-to-speech program available?  there appear to be quite a few in ubuntu software center i am just wondering if any one os the best
[06:52] <lazik> What's up ubuntu lovers
[06:52] <scientes> tanath, everybody should bu using SRV records, but that doesn't mean everyone does it
[06:53] <drounse> guest0012983 orca i think is one
[06:54] <wifioregon> My friend wants me to burn him 300 copies of his music cd.  Using Ubuntu 10.04, what is the best way to rip the cd in its best quality possible and burn it?  I've been using k3b, but it makes me copy the from the master disc first and then stick in the blank disc. (I only have one drive). THANKS
[06:55] <scientes> wifioregon, just copy the CD to an .iso
[06:55] <scientes> which is an EXACT copy of the original
[06:55] <frankpad> guest0012983, check out http://tcts.fpms.ac.be/synthesis
[06:55] <wifioregon> do you know the best way to make it into an iso?
[06:55] <scientes> wel i could do it with dd, but you should probably avoid that
[06:56] <scientes> and use brasero
[06:56] <linux_probe> 300 copies, wow, that will take some time :-p
[06:56] <wifioregon> I know!!! but he's paying $400
[06:56] <scientes> linux_probe, its pretty streamlined
[06:56] <linux_probe> streamlined sure
[06:56] <wifioregon> should I burn them at 4x to be safe?
[06:56] <linux_probe> burner killer check
[06:56] <scientes> in that it will autoeject, and start up again when you put in the next one
[06:56] <frankpad> How I can set Ubuntu to ignore the toner cartridge chip so I can continue printing? I know that chip is not accurate because the self-test page turns out neatly printed. I have an HP LaserJet Professional M1132 MFP.
[06:56] <scientes> wifioregon, you shouldn't use memorex
[06:56] <wifioregon> scientes:  thanks by the way
[06:56] <scientes> wifioregon, basically pay 20c, not 10c per CD
[06:57] <scientes> and you will be fine, audio CD's don't need as good of CDs, cause they have alot of error check codes and its very low density
[06:57] <wifioregon> so I should just set k3b to "auto" for speed?
[06:57] <scientes> if you have a 52x burner (you should), burn it at 48x
[06:57] <wifioregon> oh okay
[06:57] <wifioregon> thanks!
[06:58] <tanath> scientes, well, i found a downside, and a reason distros shouldn't adopt btrfs yet: "The Btrfs disk format is not yet finalized, and it currently does not handle disk full conditions at all. Things are under heavy development, and Btrfs is not suitable for any uses other than benchmarking and review."
[06:58] <scientes> and if you have buffer underrun protection (you should), then there is no problem in burning fast
[06:58] <scientes> wifioregon, all that "burn it slow" stuff came from a time when there was no buffer underflow protection
[06:58] <wifioregon> scientes:  sorry but I'm not seeing how to create an iso using brasero
[06:58] <tanath> scientes, i always have issues with brasero. nothing beats k3b
[06:58] <lazik> I have a motherboard with a i7 but the lan chipset is a seperate powerpc subsystem. It's a freescale powerquicc processor with an ethernet controller. In ubuntu 11.10, no driver kick in to support it. However in the extended kernel drivers, I found freescale source code for drivers. I should be able to recompile the new linux kernel, install and use the device?
[06:58] <wifioregon> tanath: how do I make k3b create an iso of the disc?
[06:58] <scientes> so if your hard drive or OS couldn't keep up, then you got another coffee table coaster
[06:59] <scientes> wifioregon, "disc copy"
[06:59] <wifioregon> scientes: I only have one drive
[06:59] <scientes> wifioregon, it will prompt you for a location of the image file
[06:59] <scientes> that is a iso wifioregon
[06:59] <wifioregon> oHHH
[06:59] <wifioregon> I see..it has a pulldown menu...
[06:59] <wifioregon> my defualt option wasnt image...
[06:59]  * wifioregon slaps himself
[06:59] <tanath> wifioregon, tools > copy medium > only create image
[06:59] <wifioregon> sorry
[06:59] <wifioregon> total newb
[06:59] <FloodBot1> wifioregon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:00] <scientes> wifioregon, and then after that use "burn image"
[07:00] <frankpad> How I can set Ubuntu to ignore the toner cartridge chip so I can continue printing? I know that chip is not accurate because the self-test page turns out neatly printed. I have an HP LaserJet Professional M1132 MFP.
[07:00] <scientes> wifioregon, however that doesn't look like the right tool cause it doesn't have a "copy" option
[07:00] <scientes> to do it in a highly optimized way
[07:00] <scientes> wifioregon, so you should install k3b to get that feature
[07:01] <wifioregon> scientes:  shoot...iso isnt an option..only cue and a couple others
[07:01] <wifioregon> scientes:  I have k3b installed
[07:01] <scientes> wifioregon, iso IS not only an option, but the default
[07:02] <tanath> scientes, you can't hate on memorex. brand name is irrelevant
[07:02] <jecky__> if we make 2 branches in github and modify readme in both branch differently and while merging should the diff should be albe to view in both
[07:02] <scientes> its short for ISO9660
[07:02] <scientes> tanath, yes i know they dont own the factories, but memorex is infamous for buying shitty chinese CDs that suck
[07:03] <scientes> and selling them for 10c instead of 20c
[07:03] <wifioregon> scientes:  not in mine...Im using ubuntu 10.04..for many reasons..11.10 doesnt work with MOST of my hardware
[07:03] <tanath> hm
[07:03] <wifioregon> plus VERY buggy
[07:03] <scientes> the whole world round, i even talked to a russian that confirmed it
[07:03] <ifansyah> halo
[07:03] <frankpad> How I can set Ubuntu to ignore the toner cartridge chip so I can continue printing? I know that chip is not accurate because the self-test page turns out neatly printed. I have an HP LaserJet Professional M1132 MFP.
[07:03] <fre3bird> uc bash
[07:03] <tanath> wifioregon, did you follow my k3b directions?
[07:03] <Rounin> Hm, I don't get it... Every time I upgrade to a new distro, I get this same problem... How do I say no to the TrueType core fonts EULA?
[07:03] <wifioregon> So the way I figured it out......goto k3b....more.....rip audio cd...then there are tons of options...including...wav....raw....ogg
[07:03] <Rounin> There's an OK button there, but there's no Cancel button
[07:03] <scientes> frankpad, that doesn't happen in ubuntu, it happens in the printer
[07:04] <Rounin> If I press Escape, the EULA comes up again
[07:04] <wifioregon> tanath:  OH i thought that was for brasero!
[07:04] <tanath> heh
[07:04] <wifioregon> tanath: THANKS!
[07:04] <tanath> ;)
[07:04] <scientes> rounin use xkill
[07:04] <scientes> Rounin, oh wait, don't do that
[07:04] <tanath> wifioregon, i was the one who said to use k3b :P
[07:04] <scientes> Rounin, just uninstall the package, 1 sec
[07:05] <scientes> frankpad, and it is a very difficult problem http://www.fsf.org/bulletin/2007/fall/antifeatures/ http://wiki.mako.cc/Antifeatures
[07:05] <wifioregon> tanath: I got confused...and was like brasero doesn't have that option! lol
[07:05] <Rounin> Well, I've uninstalled it many times though, scientes, but it keeps coming back, like a virus
[07:05] <Rounin> It must be part of some meta-package or other
[07:05] <frankpad> scientes, how come the printer manual says that you can continue printing even if the low-toner indicator is on? http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02003596&tmp_track_link=ot_faqs/top_issues/en_us/c02003596/loc:3&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&product=3965851
[07:05] <scientes> Rounin, ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[07:05] <tanath> wifioregon, k3b does everything, and default settings usually do great
[07:06] <scientes> and you might have to also uninstall ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:06] <scientes> Rounin, ^
[07:06] <Rounin> Ah... So either you get one extra or all of them, eh :P
[07:07] <scientes> frankpad this is the linux/mac driver, so try here: http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html
[07:08] <scientes> frankpad, (and you already have that driver, so dont try installing it)
[07:08] <tanath> scientes, also rather important: "Btrfs does not yet have a fsck tool that can fix errors"
[07:08] <scientes> tanath, please dont tell me things i know
[07:08] <scientes> Rounin, any luck?
[07:08] <frankpad> That's right. I have that driver installed. So how can I continue printing?
[07:08] <tanath> scientes, give me telepathy and we'll see
[07:09] <tanath> scientes, was making a point
[07:09] <scientes> Rounin, also try apt-get purge ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[07:09] <tanath> scientes, btrfs sounds good, and i was ready to jump in, but it's not ready yet
[07:09] <scientes> frankpad, i don't know, but you might try to figure it out at that site
[07:10] <Rounin> I've already done that several times, scientes, and I can't do it again without running dpkg --configure -a and apt-get -f install and so on
[07:10] <frankpad> Obviously HP wants me to buy a new cartridge but this one is full of toner.
[07:10] <Rounin> Since aborting the corefonts thing causes the upgrade process to be interrupted
[07:10] <scientes> Rounin, its apt-get -f install that is bringing the package back
[07:10] <Rounin> Canonical must really want me to have those fonts
[07:10] <scientes> Rounin, you have to get rid of the package that depends on that package
[07:10] <tanath> frankpad, hate those shenanigans. refilled one myself and reset the ink level, and it still acts like there's no ink after a couple sheets
[07:11] <Rounin> Ah! So perhaps I can find out what packages depend on it, and that'll solve it
[07:11] <tanath> frankpad, i heard you need an older printer without the chip to be able to refill successfully
[07:11] <frankpad> tanath, I don't mind the indicator... but the printer won't print at all
[07:11] <scientes> Rounin, and if you are in an infinite loop, try it with dpkg -r  ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[07:11] <scientes> Rounin, which bypasses all dependancy resolution
[07:12] <frankpad> I get a message saying that there is no toner when test pages come out so bold
[07:12] <tanath> frankpad, no, apparently it doesn't just complain about ink, but actually acts as if it wasn't refilled
[07:12] <tanath> due to the chip
[07:12] <tanath> to force you to buy more
[07:12] <scientes> ^^^^^
[07:12] <frankpad> I see... so I guess I will need one of those chip resetters
[07:13] <tanath> frankpad, is there such a thing?
[07:13] <frankpad> yes! I saw them on YouTube
[07:13] <scientes> frankpad, i've heard that alot of hp printers can remember 3 max cartraiges
[07:13] <tanath> heh
[07:13] <scientes> but these things change
[07:13] <scientes> http://www.fsf.org/bulletin/2007/fall/antifeatures/
[07:13] <scientes> ^ for an essay on this sort of thing
[07:13] <Rounin> Thanks, scientes
[07:14] <scientes> Rounin, np
[07:16] <cipher__> can anyone help me install opengl 4.0 drivers?
[07:16] <frankpad> Here's the chip resetter http://youtu.be/2DPIh2KJnlQ
[07:16] <ultrixx> frankpad: looks like a fake url
[07:16] <frankpad> It is not
[07:17] <szal> cipher__: does your gfx card support that?
[07:17] <cipher__> szal: well maybe not, it's a pretty terrible card: gt525m
[07:17] <scientes> ultrixx, thats is official youtube/google stuff
[07:17] <LukeNukem> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9748001/prepared-statements-fatal-error-call-to-a-member-function-bind-param-on-a-no
[07:17] <LukeNukem> CAn someone please help me out
[07:18] <scientes> !ot | LukeNukem
[07:18] <cipher__> szal: can i check what spec of opengl my current driver supports?
[07:18] <LukeNukem> ooh
[07:18] <LukeNukem> lol
[07:18] <LukeNukem> sorry
[07:18] <LukeNukem> wrong channel
[07:18] <FloodBot1> LukeNukem: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:20] <cipher__> well i suppose that question extends to anyone :P
[07:21] <tanath> frankpad, that's a commercial printer though. what about SOHO printers?
[07:21] <frankpad> what are SOHO printers anyway?
[07:23] <tanath> frankpad, http://www.acronymfinder.com/SOHO.html
[07:23] <tanath> like home printers
[07:24] <szal> tanath: what's the difference between commercial and SOHO printers?
[07:24] <frankpad> You can just say Small Office/Home Office. Thank you
[07:24] <tanath> szal, about 4 feet?
[07:24] <tanath> frankpad, more typing
[07:24] <frankpad> ok
[07:25] <szal> tanath: huh? care to explain?
[07:25] <tanath> and i couldn't recall exactly what it stood for
[07:25] <tanath> szal, the one in the vid is about 4 feet taller than a home printer
[07:25] <user1> HI, i dont know about to work with vi editor, pls let me know how to edit files..
[07:26] <tanath> user1, you might try nano instead
[07:26] <user1> thanks tanath...
[07:26] <szal> tanath: nothing prevents you from buying a HP Color LaserJet 8000 series for home use.. except your budget perhaps :P
[07:26] <tanath> user1, or gedit if you have gui
[07:27] <tanath> szal, what i'm getting at is what about home printers?
[07:27] <szal> tanath: well, what about them?
[07:28] <Guest76003> hi
[07:28] <tanath> szal, did you see the vid or catch any of the conversation? talking about resetting the printer chips so they can be refilled (yay antifeatures)
[07:29] <tanath> szal, vid shows a likely expensive solution that may be good in a commercial setting, but what about home or small business users?
[07:29] <szal> tanath: pretty futile to do so, you're breathing toxic dust if you do.. better have that done by a company that specializes in that, or buy refill cartridges
[07:30] <tanath> szal, what are you talking about? no toxic dust when i refilled mine...
[07:30] <szal> laser printer toner should, quality-wise, be much less of a problem than ink
[07:30] <cipher__> can anyone help direct me to a opengl 4.0 driver?
[07:31] <szal> imho, self-refill is just too much of a hassle
[07:31] <tanath> szal, the point is they're pulling shenanigans to force people to unnecessarily buy replacements when we could refill them ourselves. did you know printer ink is more expensive than oil or human blood?
[07:31] <tanath> szal, that should be user choice though. chip prevents that
[07:31] <frankpad> I agree
[07:32] <tanath> i have a refill kit and a couple printers. can't really use it though due to the damned chips
[07:33] <szal> over here in Germany there are shops that refill your cartridges for you, claiming to have cracked almost all manufacturer locking chips
[07:33] <szal> still a lot cheaper than buying OEM cartridges
[07:34] <tanath> szal, same here, but i'd rather do it free. i just don't know about dealing with the chips... yet
[07:34] <frankpad> Here they sell reset chips... if only I was in the States the shipping would be reasonable http://www.inkowl.com/index.php?p=product&product=2093
[07:34] <szal> tanath: well, you still pay for the ink or toner
[07:34] <tanath> szal, nope. got it free
[07:34] <szal> tanath: then you're just lucky
[07:35] <tanath> szal, true, but it's going to waste because printer companies are asshats
[07:35] <frankpad> $8.95 for those dumb smart chips
[07:36] <frankpad> add $60 to have it shipped to Mexico
[07:36] <frankpad> no way
[07:36] <szal> anyhoo.. for an inkjet printer I'd go for OEM cartridges any day, because the output quality is heaps better.. for a laser printer quality shouldn't be an issue when using non-OEM toner
[07:36] <Guest76003> Please, I question for all helpers: I trying to install ubuntu 11.04 desktop on my computer but gave me the EDD: error 3200 could be of help to solve this problem?
[07:37] <tanath> mine's laser. refill didn't work out. i blame chip
[07:37] <cipher__> I am running ubuntu 11.04, can anyone help me install a opengl 4.0 driver?
[07:38] <tanath> cipher__, ati?
[07:39] <tanath> cipher__, you want the open source or proprietary driver?
[07:39] <amando> Hep wanted on EDD: error 3200, ubuntu 11.04
[07:39] <tanath> and why am i still here after 3am?
[07:40] <cipher__> tanath: proprietary or open, I am agnostic to the potential ethics involved :P. I am on a geforce 525m
[07:40] <tanath> cipher__, try jockey?
[07:40] <cipher__> I have nto
[07:40] <cipher__> not*
[07:41] <cipher__> tanath, jockey?
[07:41] <tanath> /usr/bin/jockey-gtk
[07:41] <tanath> cipher__, see if that has a recommendation for you
[07:41] <cipher__> oh, thanks
[07:41] <stefg> Hi, it seems that firefox 11 that came in yesterday via lucid-updates is severely broken on lucid 64. Anyone else can confirm that?
[07:42] <tanath> and good night
[07:42] <cipher__> tanath, the descriptions are pretty vage, just NVIDIA accelerated graphics (current) and (post-release updates)
[07:42] <szal> stefg: define 'broken'
[07:42] <tanath> cipher__, mm. go with recommended or post-release updates
[07:43] <cipher__> tanath: they support gl 4.0+?
[07:43] <stefg> szal: GUI partly not functional, Bokkmark-bar doesn't show anything, Content not displaying properly
[07:43] <tanath> cipher__, not sure. ask around or google. i'm out
[07:43] <cipher__> tanath: i already tried jocky btw ;P
[07:43]  * szal uses neither Lucid nor Firefox
[07:44] <szal> stefg: you might wanna try a fresh new profile to see whether something in your profile is possibly b0rked
[07:46] <stefg> szal: already did that. I renamed ~/.mozilla to check wether there's just a broken add-on... no dice. I downgraded back to 9.0.1, and everthing is fine. Just wanted some confirmation that firefox 11 is indeed broken, and that it is not a problem exclusive to me
[07:47] <ovechkin_> what/where are the best resources for installing on a new macbook pro?
[07:48] <ovechkin_> hoping to find a list of what is and is not compatible/functioning
[07:48] <CFHowlett> ovechkin_   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[07:49] <ovechkin_> thanks
[07:50] <chalcedony> has anyone got experience or where can i ask about Adobe Reader 9 on Ubuntu? it's showng an error, saying the .pdf is damaged
[07:50] <amando> am using Ubuntu server 11.10, to implement VOD over IMS, where can get the best information to guide me.
[07:51] <CFHowlett> chalcedony   try to view with evince
[07:51] <chalcedony> CFHowlett, still seems broken now
[07:51] <CFHowlett> chalcedony   ef evince and adobe both say it's broken ... it probably is.
[07:52] <stefg> chalcedony: First step would be to double check that with evince (the native pdf viewer).
[07:52] <frankpad> I wish there was some instructions like these http://ur1.ca/8pn1v for my printer model in order to reset the cartridge chip
[07:53] <stefg> chalcedony: might it be a specially crafted PDF to attack windows versions of the adobe reader?
[07:53] <amando> is there any experience ubuntu user on line?
[07:53] <CFHowlett> amando   probably :)
[07:55] <stefg> !firefox
[07:55] <amando> CFHowlett- i would like to have a website that could guide me implement Video on demand  over IMS
[07:56] <CFHowlett> amando   sorry, out of my area of expertise.  might want to look in the forums as well
[07:56] <Belial`> stefg, what's the problem with ff?
[07:57] <amando> CFHowlett :ok, thank you
[07:57] <Belial`> for some reason my scroll is jacked. can't go back far enough.
[07:57] <chalcedony> stefg, thank you for the idea, my husband says not. i don't know what he's doing, yet
[07:58] <hiexpo> Belial`, edit your prefs so unlimited scroll back
[07:58] <stefg> amando: That is not so much a question of the underlying operating system, but of a server application. I'd look at the wowza streaming server
[07:59] <Belial`> hiexpo, i have it set already. it's a problem with znc. i reconnected and the buffer wasn't saved. it works for several weeks, sometimes just days...
[07:59] <Belial`> either way, it randomly stops working
[07:59] <Belial`> and i don't get back logs.
[07:59] <Belial`> i usually have to redo it from the web settings.
[07:59] <stefg> Belial`:  see above. Firefox 11 has a non functional gui, doesnt show my iGoogle page properly, has no search engines.... it's just utterly broken
[08:00] <hiexpo> you use a cleaner like bleechbit
[08:00] <Belial`> stefg, i can't see above...that's why i asked you what the problem was...and then mentioned why i couldn't scroll back.
 for some reason my scroll is jacked. can't go back far enough.
[08:01] <stefg> Belial`: : GUI partly not functional, bookmark-bar doesn't show anything, content not displaying properly
[08:01]  * stefg thinks that tehre's a problem with xul-runner
[08:01] <worm> Who can help me about this: aptitude said more than 700 packages were broken and apt-get install -f said nothing.
[08:02] <stefg> C'mon guys! nobody running firefox 11? just a simple "works for me" or "got the same problem"?
[08:02] <Belial`> stefg, don't use it, but i just enabled it to check. the bookmarks bar is working fine here. i'm facing the same issues basically with unity that you are with firefox.
[08:02] <Belial`> most everyone i talked to doesn't have the graphical glitches i do with unity.
[08:03] <Belial`> even ones with the same graphics.
[08:03] <worm> It is a disaster for me to solve this depend problem. Aptitude told me to remove 700 or more packages.
[08:03] <Belial`> actually, my bad. i didn't realize i'm in #ubuntu. i'm using 12.04. strictly a #ubuntu+1 issue.
[08:04] <Belial`> stefg, i blame most of firefox's problems on their flawed rapid release model.
[08:04] <Belial`> it works fine for some, but terrible for others. and it's a nightmare with some popular addons.
[08:06] <chalcedony> stefg, i think he's wondering where Adobe Reader 9 is supposed to be? it's currently in /usr/bin/apt/Adobe9
[08:08] <stefg> chalcedony: that sounds quite strange. should either be in /opt or in /usr/local/bin . But these "partner" packages might have silly ideas on where to put stuff
[08:09] <stefg> chalcedony: a "sudo updatedb" followed by "locate adobe" should give you an idea
[08:10] <Belial`> is anyone using a core i3 mobile cpu?
[08:10] <ikonia> Belial`: just ask your question
[08:11] <chalcedony> stefg, thanks!
[08:12] <Belial`> ikonia, not always that simple.
[08:12] <ikonia> Belial`: ok, then we can't help you
[08:12] <Belial`> harsh. also seemed like a pretyped comment.
[08:12] <ikonia> it's not harsh
[08:12] <hiexpo> hola ikonia and again thanks
[08:12] <Belial`> i'll ignore it though
[08:12] <ikonia> if you want help, you have to give info
[08:13] <ikonia> does it matter if anyones using an i3 mobile cpu - no, does it matter that someone knows how to help you, yes, so ask the question/issue you want to resolve
[08:13] <Belial`> ikonia, i think you're too caught up in policing than you are helping. i've seen you come across too aggressive several times.
[08:13] <Belial`> but it's all good.
[08:14] <ikonia> Belial`: I'm not policing anything, I'm asking you to give information so you can be HELPED
[08:14] <stefg> !ask | Belial`
[08:14] <Edisto> hmmm... I can't seem to run my php file in eclipse. It says file doesn't exist and it seems to be using the directory of var/www but I'm guessing it doesn't have permission to write there. But whenever I open eclipse with sudo it says no editor descriptor for php...
[08:15] <The_BROS> Not so long ago thunderbird-bin loads prosessor sometimes. How can I fix it?
[08:15] <Edisto> is there a way to save a file to a locked directory without having to open a file using sudo?
[08:15] <Belial`> ikonia, sorry, bud. i understand.
[08:15] <ikonia> Edisto: eclipse is normally used for java, never seen it used for php
[08:15] <Edisto> yeah I was downloading an extension
[08:16] <stefg> Edisto: that would very much undermine the idea of write permissions, huh?
[08:16] <ikonia> Edisto: change the permissions on the directory so they are more open, put your user in the group etc
[08:17] <Edisto> yeah didn't think of that lol thanks guys
[08:20] <Belial`> the core i3 seems to use the i915 module. i have an optimus laptop which i know isn't "officially" supported. i blacklisted the nouveau driver, which was also throwing an error at boot time. that fixed one problem. however, the intel gpu is what is used by default. and actually, it's the only thing that can be used officially without intervention from 3rd party projects such as "bumblebee" (which makes use of my nvidia 420m.) i was just wondering what i n
[08:20] <Belial`> eed to do to get rid of my "kernel: intel ips [...]: failed to get i915 symbols, graphics turbo disabled" boot time message. on arch it was a bit different.
[08:21] <ikonia> Belial`: is it just the boot message you want to get rid of, or is something actually failing at boot time that you are not happy about ?
[08:21] <adriano> cctt
[08:22] <Belial`> ultimately i'd like to just not have the message. everything seems to work fine. but it's affecting boot time. and it seems like it's an actual error.
[08:22] <ikonia> how is it effecting boot time
[08:23] <Belial`> although, to be honest, i have no clue what it's doing to impact me in a negative way aside from boot time.
[08:23] <Belial`> it's hanging for a few seconds.
[08:23] <Belial`> and then displaying it
[08:23] <Belial`> i'm just being picky about not wanting errors showing up on boot.
[08:24] <Belial`> and it's not ubuntu's fault. it's pretty much every distribution i've used.
[08:24] <ikonia> the error suggests, there is 915 module functionality that is not supported with your card
[08:24] <ikonia> so I'd guess depending on what the module that's failing is and what it does disabling that module would be the short and simple answer
[08:24] <ikonia> but I doubt that will be an option as it's probably something that's critical to your functionality
[08:25] <Belial`> well for instance, when i had the message on arch, i went to /etc/mkinitcpio.conf and added it to the modules line
[08:25] <Belial`> then ran mkinitcpio -p linux
[08:25] <Belial`> which fixed the problem. i guess i'm just looking the ubuntu way.
[08:26] <stefg> ikonia, Belial` : That probably has something to do with the "intel HD graphics" embedded graphics engine on the i3. that is not properly supported yet i guess
[08:26] <Belial`> ah
[08:26] <Belial`> so it's basically just putting a band aid on it?
[08:26] <ikonia> yeah, there is information on a later kernel having an update but it's still not properly supported
[08:27] <Belial`> ok
[08:27] <Belial`> either way, everything *seems* to be working fine.
[08:27] <Belial`> so i guess that's all that matters.
[08:28] <stefg> Belial`: your machine has the intel graphics embedded on the cpu. that is used for low power. If it comes to graphics intensive applications the machine is supposed to switch to the more powerful, but more power hungry nvidia chip. I don't think, X supports that at the moment
[08:28] <Belial`> it doesn't
[08:28] <Belial`> that's why i use bumblebee
[08:28] <ikonia> Belial`: there is an interessting suggestion on the arch wiki about using the boot option i915.modeset=1
[08:28] <Belial`> i saw that
[08:28] <Belial`> i might give that a try
[08:29] <ikonia> looking at the docs that can disable some of the more advanced features, possibly some that are being requested when your system boots
[08:29] <frankpad> How can I reset the CE285A (85A) cartridge chip (or set Ubuntu to bypass it) so I can print?
[08:29] <auronandace> frankpad: check your printer manual
[08:30] <Belial`> i'll give it a shot. i know it's just me ocd'ing out on it. because i know i never noticed a difference other than shaving maybe 2 seconds of boot time on arch when i fixed it.
[08:30] <frankpad> I don't think HP wants me to bypass the chip... but I will check it anyway
[08:32] <Belial`> sorry for the rocky start, ikonia
[08:32] <Belial`> i'm just a bit edgy right now i guess.
[08:32] <Belial`> appreciate the help.
[08:32] <Edisto> i did a chmod ugo+w to /var/www and I still can't save a file to that directory... what am i missing?
[08:33] <ikonia> Edisto: who is the group owner
[08:33] <Edisto> root i'm guessing, but then again i'm somewhat new to ubuntu
[08:34] <ikonia> Edisto: ok, then you are not in the group "root" so you've not changed the permissions
[08:34] <stefg> Edisto: world-writable /var/www doesn't sound like a good idea....  BTW have you fsck'd your filesystem recently?
[08:35] <Edisto> what is fsck'd? i did a sudo ugo+w so I can see the change... or where would I have to go to add myself to that group
[08:35] <stefg> !fsck
[08:36] <stefg> good bot!
[08:36] <Edisto> yeah I didn't shut down properly one of these times so I ran it today
[08:36] <stefg> !yum
[08:36] <Belial`> stefg, ikonia, just found a link to a possible fix from the ubuntu forums. google had me drop back several more pages than usual. sudo echo "softdep intel_ips pre: i915" > /etc/modprobe.d/intel-ips-dep-i915.conf
[08:39] <Jordan_U> Belial`: The fact that whoever wrote that command doesn't understand how the shell works enough to understand it won't work, *and* the fact that they must not have tested their instructions, does not bode well for the value of the rest of their advice.
[08:40] <Belial`> Jordan_U, i hear you. seems to be hit or miss judging from replies.
[08:42] <Belial`> Jordan_U, i take it your suggestion is to avoid that "fix"?
[08:42] <Jordan_U> Belial`: Unless you can get a confirmation from a more reliable source, yes.
[08:43] <Belial`> Jordan_U, the good thing is, this is just a test machine
[08:44] <Belial`> i don't mind breaking things, basically.
[08:45] <Edisto> so to add myself to root group I do a sudo usermod -a -G root myname?
[08:45] <Edisto> just to make sure I dont mess shit up
[08:54] <Edisto> for 1,420 people sure did get quiet
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> everyone is happy and have no problems
[08:56] <Edisto> well let me repeat mine so I dont mess up where I can't log back in... in order to add my acct to root is it sudo usermod -a -G root myacct
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> not sure mate
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> !info myacct
[08:57] <Edisto> myacct = to login name or account name
[08:58] <Edisto> I guess i will just chance... I am using wubi anyway
[08:58] <Edisto> hmmm.. that is a interesting error cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later.
[08:58] <ikonia> Edisto: why are you adding your user to the root group
[08:59] <Belial`> Edisto, why not just "sudo su" if you want root?
[08:59] <ikonia> Edisto: Belial` because that is not a recommended method and shouldn't be suggested
[08:59] <Belial`> "sudo su -" actually
[08:59] <auronandace> Belial`: i hope you mean sudo -i
[08:59] <ikonia> sudo -i will give you a root shell
[08:59] <Belial`> ikonia, su - is no good now?
[08:59] <ikonia> but there should be no need for that at this stage
[08:59] <Edisto> well when i login to root with eclipse I can't save to /var/www
[09:00] <Edisto> its owner and group is root...
[09:00] <ikonia> Belial`: su - is great if you have a root password, sudo su - is not
[09:00] <ikonia> Edisto: ok, so change the group
[09:00] <Edisto> chown right?
[09:00] <auronandace> Edisto: why are you logging in a root to use eclipse?
[09:00] <ikonia> Edisto: correct
[09:01] <Edisto> to save to /var/www directory... but it for some reason bugs when i login as root
[09:01] <ikonia> Edisto: you can't login as root - the root account is disabled
[09:01] <Edisto> sorry open it as root
[09:01] <Belial`> ikonia, excuse my ignorance, but what changes by using sudo to su -?
[09:01] <auronandace> !noroot | Edisto
[09:02] <ikonia> Belial`: it messes up things such as the users base home directory, so can write files (especially when using X11 applications) to the wrong place
[09:04] <Belial`> ikonia, like saving configs to the actual root user dir instead of the user requesting root access?
[09:04] <ikonia> Belial`: not quite, but you've got the right idea
[09:05] <Edisto> hmmm... so I go into the directory and type chgrp myacct root and it changes the current directory only right?
[09:05] <Edisto> cuz I don't see a directory parameter on this page
[09:05] <auronandace> !permissions | Edisto
[09:05] <ikonia> Edisto: look, just do "sudo chown username:group /var/www
[09:05] <ikonia> Edisto: replace username:group with the username/group you want to own the directory
[09:06] <Edisto> thanks man
[09:06] <Edisto> lol as you can see I treat ubuntu delicate as a flower... i've had a few mishaps
[09:07] <ikonia> Edisto: as a developer you need to get a better grasp of the OS, if you are struggling with things such as basic permisisons, your development life will get harder
[09:07] <ikonia> Edisto: https://help.ubuntu.com have a read through some of the basic operations information
[09:09] <cipher__> Are there any opengl 4.0 drivers available easily?
[09:11] <cipher__> opengl 4.0 drivers :'(
[09:12] <diverdude> how can i check if my CPU is 32 or 64 bit?
[09:12] <Belial`> cipher__, for which manufacturer?
[09:12] <soreau> diverdude: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:12] <cipher__> yay. geforce 525m
[09:12] <roxie_nai> Hey any one help me out here
[09:12] <diverdude> soreau: yes, and look for what there? There are lots of info
[09:12] <cipher__> Belial`,
[09:13] <roxie_nai> Is there is any pen tester here
[09:13] <Belial`> cipher__, you have the proprietary drivers installed?
[09:13] <cipher__> Belial`, yes.
[09:13] <cipher__> well one of the two
[09:14] <Belial`> i'm pretty sure opengl 4 was added some time ago for nvidia.
[09:14] <cipher__> oh :O
[09:15] <cipher__> Belial`, is there any way I can check the spec of opengl?
[09:16] <Belial`> cipher__, nvidia-settings should give you all the info you're looking for.
[09:17] <cipher__> Belial`, I am running bumblebee, (allows me to run multiple gpu's concurrently), and i cannot consequently use that tool. It alleges I have no nvidia drivers when it's obviously installed and working :(
[09:18] <Belial`> you can, i forgot what the command was though.
[09:19] <Belial`> there's more to it for bumblebee
[09:19] <cipher__> Belial`, optirun?
[09:19] <Belial`> cipher__, ptirun nvidia-settings -c :8
[09:19] <Belial`> optirun*
[09:19] <cipher__> I did try :P
[09:20] <Belial`> you tried with -c :8 on the end?
[09:20] <cipher__> no
[09:20] <cipher__> what does the -c flag do?
[09:21] <cipher__> it worked
[09:21] <cipher__> Belial`, what mysticism is this?
[09:23] <Belial`> cipher__, #bumblebee for whatever questions you have
[09:23] <Belial`> i'm just following their docs
[09:24] <cipher__> thanks
[09:24] <Belial`> np
[09:27] <yongyao> my phone is in a stiuation of hard brick
[09:27] <yongyao> help me
[09:27] <lapion> hello, upgrades, either from commandline or the update-manager, with a btrfs root  do not work.
[09:28] <yongyao> will it work with odine?
[09:28] <lapion> a regular upgrade doesn't work, and a sandbox upgrade doesn't start up.
[09:29] <yongyao> is there any way to help recover the phone?
[09:30] <romario333> Hi, does anybody know how the panel in the left edge of the screen is called in unity? Is it Dash?
[09:30] <Burnmoh> hi
[09:31] <Burnmoh> hmm
[09:31] <romario333> ok, I should probably ask rather at #ubuntu-unity :-)
[09:31] <hydrox24_> romario333: it's the unity bar, I think the dash is what you get when you click the top option/hit the windows key.
[09:32] <GTRam> hi
[09:32] <ePax> My nautilus uses 100% of CPU when i open my folders. Is there any solutions to that?
[09:32] <Burnmoh> how to hide the IP ?
[09:32] <iceroot> !tor | Burnmoh
[09:33] <Rurd2di> use the Anon ubuntu  Burnmoh, probaly has IP hiding shot on it
[09:33] <Rurd2di> *shit
[09:33] <Rurd2di> lol
[09:33] <FloodBot1> Rurd2di: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:35] <Burnmoh> iceroot ,ubottu and rurd2di thx :)
[09:35] <ikonia> Rurd2di: no need for bad language please.
[09:35] <hydrox24_> ePax: make sure all updates are installed, otherwise search for the bug report in launchpad (website) and if there isn't one, submit one.
[09:36] <hydrox24_> Burnmoh: also look at anonymizing VPN services.
[09:36] <Burnmoh> hydrox ok
[09:38] <frankpad> How can I reset the CE285A (85A) cartridge chip (or set Ubuntu to bypass it) so I can print? The manual states: "When a print cartridge reaches the end of its estimated useful life, the product turns on the toner
[09:38] <frankpad> light on the control panel. You do not need to replace the supply at this time unless print quality is no longer acceptable. When the supply has reached this condition, the HP Premium Protection warranty for that supply has ended.
[09:40] <Hoxolotl> good morning
[09:41]  * Hoxolotl wonders if running a persistent ubuntu from one USB stick on many different hardware configurations is feasable or wether heĺl blow up a computer along the way somewhere.
[09:42] <Hoxolotl> 1 usb stick, many hardware configurations.
[09:42] <ikonia> Hoxolotl: depends on the other hardware
[09:42] <hiexpo> exactly
[09:43] <iceroot> Hoxolotl: it will not blow up something, normally it is working out of the box
[09:43] <Hoxolotl> well, itś a mix of AMD/intel processors and Nvidia cards (maybe occasionally an intel HD3000, but thatś it) , of course Iĺl do a 32 bit install as some older configs won work otherwise
[09:44] <iceroot> Hoxolotl: GNU/Linux is not storing any hardware-configs, everything is read at start up (only some vga drivers which takes place in /etc/X11/xorg.conf may a problem)
[09:44] <Hoxolotl> no atoms/risc processors (so far)
[09:44] <selite> How do I find the external IP address of my router?
[09:44] <Hoxolotl> iceroot, exactly what I wanted to know :D
[09:44] <Hoxolotl> thanks
[09:44] <selite> Anyone?
[09:45] <iceroot> selite: http://www.whatismyip.com/
[09:45] <Burnmoh> selite use google "ip locate"
[09:45] <elsuco> selite: http://checkip.org/
[09:46] <selite> Burnmoh: , elsuco : It's not that. I don't get the web page for my router when I type it in the browser.
[09:47] <iceroot> selite: you want your WAN IP or you want the LAN ip of your router?
[09:47] <selite> Burnmoh: When I run Angry Scanner I get IP addresses of some routers from my ISP but I don't get mine, so I am curious to get mine.
[09:47] <sacarlson> selite: maybe try sudo route; the default gateway address will probly be you router ip
[09:48] <selite> sacarlson: Yeah, I tried it. But that way I can only access it from my computer. In other words that way it can be accessed only from machines connected to that router.
[09:48] <selite> iceroot: WAN IP.
[09:48] <Burnmoh> selite most ISP's provide dynamic ip , wht u gonna do with that ?
[09:49] <iceroot> selite: and you are at the moment in the lan connected to your router?
[09:49] <Bora> hello everyone
[09:49] <selite> iceroot: Yeah. I have few addresses and I can get people's routers from my browser, but I don't know the IP address of mine lol.
[09:49] <selite> :(
[09:49] <sacarlson> selite: well my router I have access to that section disabled from the wan side as might be by default for security,  it might be able to be set active as an option
[09:50] <iceroot> selite: and why is www.whatismyip.com not what you want?
[09:50] <iceroot> selite: that will show your WAN-IP
[09:50] <Bora> I would like to ask some question something about vmware v sphere and vmware workstation
[09:50] <selite> iceroot: Because I don't get the router page from that address.
[09:50] <iceroot> selite: why you need the router page?
[09:51] <iceroot> selite: that site shows your WAN IP
[09:51] <llutz> selite: you don't want the router config-page being accessible from WAN
[09:51] <iceroot> selite: use that ip to connect to your router
[09:51] <iceroot> selite: also read the manual of your router how to enable the router to be reachable from the wan
[09:51] <iceroot> selite: its disabled by default for a good reason
[09:51] <selite> iceroot: Hmm. Meaning if it is reachable from WAN then I'd get the router config - page?
[09:52] <iceroot> selite: from the wan, yes
[09:52] <iceroot> selite: from the lan you will always get it
[09:52] <selite> iceroot: Thank you.
[09:52] <sacarlson> selite: other option is you can forward ssh trafic to your ubuntu server inside your home net,  login to that and then ssh remote from that into your router
[09:52] <Burnmoh> i disabled my router remote connection cuz my IS provider always changes my router pass lol
[09:52] <Bora> first of all I installed vmware workstation but I can not  configure anyone can help me for about that
[09:53] <iceroot> Bora: time to change the provider
[09:53] <iceroot> Bora: wrong nick
[09:53] <iceroot> i really hate this tab-completion
[09:53] <Burnmoh> iceroot lol
[09:53] <frankpad>  How can I reset the CE285A (85A) cartridge chip (or set Ubuntu to bypass it) so I can print?
[09:54] <iceroot> frankpad: not possible from the OS, you have to do a hardware-hack for that and reset the chips directly
[09:54] <frankpad> Can you give me more info on how to achieve that hardware hack?
[09:54] <iceroot> frankpad: maybe with a driver hack it is possible but i dont think something like that is controlled by the driver
[09:55] <Burnmoh> wht u cant config bora ?
[09:55] <cipher__> is there anyway I can get the opengl 4.1 header files?
[09:56] <Burnmoh> wow ppl using IPv6 lol
[09:56] <Burnmoh> is it safe hehe !
[09:57] <Bora> after I install vmware workstation any needs of configration for tuhe using vmware
[09:57] <malegebi_> 请问以下大家知道编译usb-storage.ko 需要什么文件？
[09:57] <LjL> !cn | malegebi_
[09:58] <malegebi_> thanks
[09:58] <Burnmoh> guys windows or linux or unix serverwhich is best for choosing career :(
[09:58] <Burnmoh> im stuck :(
[09:58] <frankpad> iceroot, can you give me more info on how to hardware hack the cartridge chip?
[09:58] <LjL> Burnmoh: a better question for #ubuntu-offtopic methinks
[09:58] <Burnmoh> oh ! kk
[09:59] <Bora> I think unix
[09:59] <iceroot> frankpad: there are devices out there to reset the chips
[09:59] <iceroot> frankpad: have a look at ebay or google
[09:59] <frankpad> which keywords should I use
[09:59] <frankpad> chip resetter?
[09:59] <Bora> but I am working on DataCenter our platforms Winodws and some times Linux
[10:00] <Burnmoh> bora cool , me Enterprise network security student lol
[10:00] <iceroot> frankpad: https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=printer+reset+chips&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[10:00] <Bora> good good Burmoh
[10:00] <Burnmoh> 1st year :P
[10:01] <frankpad> Thanks, iceroot
[10:01] <iceroot> frankpad: you are welcome
[10:01] <Bora> I am MSCE
[10:01] <malegebi_> hello all, I want to compile usb-storage.ko ,but I dont't know which files are needed ,and how to write Makefile?
[10:01] <Burnmoh> bora cool
[10:02] <spav_> s
[10:02] <Bora> :D
[10:02] <Bora> Buenmoh can you  install and maiintance of Vmware Workstation on Ubuntu
[10:03] <DonD> is there a command that let me load å webpage every second ?
[10:03] <Burnmoh> MSCE is toughest xam
[10:03] <Burnmoh> bora me new to linux world :(
[10:03] <llutz> !ot | Burnmoh
[10:04] <Burnmoh> is there any xam for ubuntu ?
[10:04] <sacarlson> malegebi: sudo apt-get install  build-essential ;  to start  then the headers of the kernel you want to build it on
[10:04] <iceroot> Burnmoh: LPI
[10:04] <Burnmoh> certification
[10:04] <Burnmoh> LPI ?
[10:05] <iceroot> Burnmoh: LPI but its for Linux not for ubuntu
[10:05] <Burnmoh> oh k
[10:06] <frfx_crsh> someone is here?
[10:06] <Burnmoh> can we run ubuntu servers in enterprises , does we need to pay any bucks ?
[10:07] <Burnmoh> i heard its free , but im confused :(
[10:07] <vlt> Burnmoh: No.
[10:07] <iceroot> Burnmoh: ubuntu is free (as in free beer and free speach)
[10:07] <vlt> Burnmoh: But you can buy professional support from Canonical. Inc.
[10:07] <frfx_crsh> someone want to help me?
[10:07] <iceroot> Burnmoh: you can get official support from canocial which costs but the software itself is always free
[10:07] <vlt> !ask | frfx_crsh
[10:08] <Burnmoh> hmm
[10:08] <Burnmoh> bit confusing
[10:08] <iceroot> Burnmoh: why?
[10:09] <Burnmoh> if i use ubuntu server edition in enterprise , does ubuntu courts me ! lol
[10:09] <benpicco> Do I manually have to issue the TRIM command when using a SSD or does Ubuntu take care of everything automatically?
[10:09] <vlt> Burnmoh: Welcome to FOSS!
[10:09] <iceroot> what is ubuntu server enterprise?
[10:09] <frfx_crsh> i have problems with firefox on ubuntu 10.04 i have never-ever had problem with crashing.
[10:10] <iceroot> Burnmoh: you can always use any version of ubuntu (server, desktop) and you will never have to pay money
[10:10] <iceroot> Burnmoh: but more important then the costs is the freedom
[10:10] <iceroot> !free | Burnmoh
[10:11] <Burnmoh> got it !
[10:11] <iceroot> Burnmoh: the gnu.org link is very good
[10:11] <rumpe1> benpicco, http://askubuntu.com/questions/18903/how-to-enable-trim
[10:12] <Burnmoh> once u hit commercial u need to pay some bucks right
[10:12] <Jordan_U> Burnmoh: No.
[10:12] <iceroot> Burnmoh: no
[10:12] <Burnmoh> lol
[10:12] <iceroot> Burnmoh: you can do with ubuntu what you want
[10:12] <iceroot> Burnmoh: you can even sell it for money to othes
[10:12] <iceroot> Burnmoh: and even then you dont have to pay anything
[10:13] <vlt> Burnmoh: Why LOL? You can even sell it. (If you stick to the GPL rules.)
[10:13] <Splooshie123> Burnmoh: actually you can only charge for the physical act of transferring a copy. not for the program itself
[10:14] <Burnmoh> oh kk
[10:14] <Splooshie123> like charging for the cd and postage
[10:14] <vlt> Burnmoh: Yes, Splooshie123 is right.
[10:14] <Burnmoh> wht is GPL rules ?
[10:14] <Splooshie123> GNU General Public License
[10:14] <iceroot> Burnmoh: read the gnu.org link
[10:14] <Burnmoh> iceroot ok
[10:15] <Splooshie123> Anyone here know how to get pulseaudio to work through jack?
[10:16] <Burnmoh> i surfed the ubuntu site , there is some special advanced server and desktop edition but they asking to pay for it :(
[10:16] <Splooshie123> Burnmoh: what page did you go to?
[10:16] <Burnmoh> splooshie one min
[10:17] <smswt> admin
[10:17] <Jordan_U> Burnmoh: The only thing which Canonical charges for which is software is Landscape. Landscape is a piece of software, not a version of Ubuntu.
[10:20] <benpicco> rumpe1: is automatic TRIM reccomended?
[10:20] <Burnmoh> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=667
[10:21] <Burnmoh> visit the above link
[10:21] <llutz> benpicco: just be warned: if you use "discard" option and you delete files, there is no way to get them back (except from backups)
[10:21] <Burnmoh> *vist
[10:23] <Jordan_U> Burnmoh: That's a support contract and licence for landscape. It's not a different version of Ubuntu.
[10:23] <Burnmoh> jordan oh
[10:24] <Onkeltem> hi all. My Ubuntu doesn't load anymore, even in recovery mode - display just turns off!
[10:24] <Onkeltem> Dual booted win xp loads fine
[10:24] <benpicco> Onkeltem: can you select an older kernel in Grub?
[10:24] <Burnmoh> jordan so they give online support for those edition
[10:24] <Burnmoh> in free edition its not possible ?
[10:24] <Onkeltem> benpicco: yes, I tried one, but not in recovery mode. Same behaviour
[10:25] <Onkeltem> benpicco: gonna try old recovery now
[10:25] <Jordan_U> Burnmoh: Phone and paid online support, yes. That online support is not here (or #ubuntu-server). We are all volunteers and you can get support here for free even if you're making a profit.
[10:26] <Burnmoh> ok
[10:26] <Onkeltem> benpicco: doesn't work - display continue to turn off - 've just tried -22 kernel in recovery
[10:27] <Burnmoh> ok friends see u later :)