[14:49] <jrwren> https://drewdevault.com/2020/09/25/A-story-of-two-libcs.html the real reason i want a popos(ubuntu) distro built on non-glibc.
[14:49] <jrwren> glibc is a mess of a codebase.
[14:58] <cmaloney> The initial assertion (isalnum shouldn't segfault) is correct
[14:59] <cmaloney> however, I think his conclusion that musl is somehow better because of a more naive implementation makes me think they are setting themselves up for much nastier bugs
[14:59] <cmaloney> but yeah, I would never have been able to debug that mess
[15:01] <cmaloney> Everything is there for a reason
[15:01] <cmaloney> even if that reason isn't a particularly good one
[15:02] <jrwren> I didn't read that conclusion
[15:03] <cmaloney> Note also that Drew is the project lead for Source hut, which is the most impenetrable source code hosting site I have ever seen
[15:03] <cmaloney> so I take his opinions on interfaces and oversimplifications with that in mind. :)
[15:03] <cmaloney> What conclusion did you come to?
[15:05] <cmaloney> perhaps I read into it with that preconceived notion
[15:18] <jrwren> awesome... we use Ubuntu Pro at work... because FIPS.
[15:18] <jrwren> I'm a paying customer!  WHOO HOO!!!
[15:18] <cmaloney> heh
[15:19] <cmaloney> FIPS == ?
[15:19] <jrwren> federal information protection system or something like that.
[15:19] <cmaloney> https://ubuntu.com/security/certifications/docs/fips
[15:19] <jrwren> basically, certified software so that the NSA can break the encryption.
[15:19] <jrwren> yes, that.
[15:19] <cmaloney> Nice
[15:19] <jrwren> it's a huge deal in parts of the industry.
[15:20] <cmaloney> yeah, i can see that
[15:20] <jrwren> oh wow... so we are becoming Advantage customers because that is WAY cheaper than using Ubuntu Pro FIPS ec2 imaages, lol.
[15:20] <cmaloney> That would figure
[15:20] <jrwren> if you want to sell to government, you do FIPS, FedRAMP and Soc2
[15:26] <jrwren> oh, and IL5