[12:03] <ThePub> Aaron`: you shouldn't, it's that simple.
[12:04] <santander> unagi : caps get bad attention ;-)
[12:04] <Aaron`> my brother told me to come to this mirc internet window to get help
[12:04] <santander> at least, in my experience :p
[12:04] <unagi> but its attention nontheless
[12:04] <MasterShrek> E-mu, ive seen that before, but i have no idea how to fix it
[12:04] <santander> ;-)
[12:04] <MasterShrek> Aaron`, linux is crap compared to windows, you dont want it
[12:04] <Stevethepirate> Your brother, by suggesting linux, sounds like he got all ur families 'clever genes'
[12:04] <E-mu> MasterShrek does that mean it cannot access the CD image?
[12:04] <Ishakabibble_> hi guys and gals, I'm having a problem with the update manager. It keeps telling me to upgrade Compiz, but the weird thing is that every time I install the upgrade, the update manager still keeps on telling me to upgrade Compiz even though I have just done an upgrade. Does anyone know what the matter could be?
[12:04] <Aaron`> i want linux
[12:04] <riotkittie> linux wants you too, Aaron`
[12:04] <E-mu> cause dsl gives me a message it dropping me down to a shell because it cannot find the image
[12:05] <cbox> anyone help please???
[12:05] <Aaron`> but my pc has too many programs installed already
[12:05] <MasterShrek> E-mu, i dont think thats waht it means, but im not sure exactly, googling it would be your best bet
[12:05] <E-mu> thanks
[12:05] <MasterShrek> i gotta run every1, good luck ill be back later tonight :)
[12:05] <MidnighToker> Aaron`: linux will clear the disk for you ;)
[12:05] <Esteth> Ishakabibble_: That's a known bug with amaranth's repos. Simply remove the repo from your software sources after installation
[12:05] <boselecta> Aaron`:  do you actually use the stuff you have installed?
[12:05] <Aaron`> my pc is realllly slow anyway, but i paid quite a lot for it a while back. it's dell, so its good isn't it?
[12:05] <riotkittie> Aaron`: if you have at least 4GB free space, you're good to go
[12:05] <santander> okay MasterShrek
[12:05] <Aaron`> boselecta: i use microsoft works, norton antivirus and firewall and other programs
[12:05] <joshjosh> Aaron`, You don't need antivirus or firewalls with linux
[12:06] <santander> hi, i earlier installed ubuntu 7.04 desktop and i needed to ad a module for extra nic via 'sudo modprobe 3c59x', after that the nic showed in ifconfig. now i've installed ubuntu 7.04 server and i did again 'sudo modprobe 3c59x' , and it shows in lsmod, but my nix doesnt show in ifconfig, what should i try?
[12:06] <ppl_can_b_kool> Aaron`: Joshjosh is a liar
[12:06] <Aaron`> riotkittie: i have 2 blank dvds so i can have nearly 10gb of space
[12:06] <Winball> Aaron` Your in no need of those when using linux ,)
[12:06] <ppl_can_b_kool> he's trying to h4x you i think
[12:06] <ppl_can_b_kool> omg
[12:06] <Aaron`> but my other programs need anti virus
[12:06] <boselecta> Aaron`: right. so if the "other programs" are nothing special, you'll be fine with linux.
[12:06] <Aaron`> why doesn't ubuntu
[12:06] <cafuego> Why is #ubuntu turning into troll central?
[12:06] <Aaron`> Because it's AFRICAN
[12:06] <Aaron`> LOL.
[12:06] <riotkittie> ppl_can_b_kool: simmer down.
[12:06] <MasterShrek> santander, linux-modules maybe, run aptitude and hit the / key and search for modules
[12:06] <gnomefreak> Aaron`: the way the file system is in ubuntu
[12:06] <joshjosh> ppl_can_b_kool, I thought this channel was for helping people, not being a lame troll.  Not nice.
[12:07] <gnomefreak> Aaron`: i suggest you stay on topic.
[12:07] <ppl_can_b_kool> I'm genuinely here to help people.
[12:07] <Aaron`> that was a joke
[12:07] <riotkittie> cafuego: i'm thinking school let out for summer like 8 months early, somewhere, maybe
[12:07] <Aaron`> sorry
[12:07] <patbam> hi, i'm having some trouble figuring out how to mount an external usb drive. it's showing up in syslog as being " Attached scsi disk sdb", but it's not showing up in /media
[12:07] <gnomefreak> joshjosh: that is uncalled for
[12:07] <Aaron`> anyway, so why don't i need antivirus? i have 2 installed right now to be safe
[12:07] <patbam> sorry, kernel log
[12:07] <boselecta> Aaron`: how old are you?
[12:07] <Esteth> Aaron`: Two antivirus at once is a bad idea, really
[12:07] <Aaron`> 22
[12:07] <joshjosh> ppl_can_b_kool, why scare people from linux? and it wasn't funny. it was lame.
[12:07] <gnomefreak> Aaron`: the way ext file systems are they are harder and not as popuylar as windows fs
[12:07] <astro76> !virus | Aaron`
[12:08] <ubotu> Aaron`: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[12:08] <Aaron`> esteth: i like to be really safe, so i have norton 360 with firewall and then mcafee and then zone alarm
[12:08] <ppl_can_b_kool> joshjosh: That's entirely opinion. Anyway, this isn't the place for a childish argument.
[12:08] <gnomefreak> ppl_can_b_kool: dont continue it at all
[12:08] <Aaron`> i don't want my documents hacked, i do emails and stuff that are private
[12:08] <gnomefreak> ppl_can_b_kool: if you need help ask for help if you are giving help than continue
[12:08] <ppl_can_b_kool> gnomefreak: Will do. :)
[12:08] <gnomefreak> ty
[12:09] <gnomefreak> Aaron`: its safe
[12:09] <Aaron`> but what about my other stuff
[12:09] <Aaron`> like microsoft works
[12:09] <gnomefreak> Aaron`: on linux?
[12:09] <boselecta> Aaron`: you're more likely to have your emails hacked on windows than linux. and besides unencrypted email is not exactly private anyway.
[12:09] <Aaron`> i write my documents in that maintly
[12:09] <MidnighToker> Aaron`, www.openoffice.com
[12:09] <patbam> any hints on that drive?
[12:09] <ppl_can_b_kool> Aaron`: There are open replacements for office applications.
[12:09] <gnomefreak> Aaron`: than use oopenoffice
[12:09] <dc905> guys, whats the 'name' of the remove programs app ? i lost it from my menu :P
[12:09] <ppl_can_b_kool> For example, OpenOffice. It doesn't get much more open.
[12:09] <riotkittie> there are alternatives to microsoft works under linux. open office being one.
[12:09] <MidnighToker> Aaron`, sorry, openoffice.org
[12:09] <santander> erm okay, how do i jump to next result in find in aptitude?
[12:09] <riotkittie> you can install open office under windows also
[12:09] <Aaron`> yeah but i don't want to change office softawre to just install ubuntu
[12:10] <boselecta> Aaron`: why?
[12:10] <Aaron`> i want to use ubuntu and my other programs at once
[12:10] <Winball> dc905 try gnome-app-install
[12:10] <Comrade-Sergei> my wireless is acting like it has no drivers installed.. how do i get them and install them?
[12:10] <astro76> Aaron`, if you used MS Office you might have an argument, but I guarantee OpenOffice is nicer than Works
[12:10] <DrGizmondo_> whats the position on Ubuntu security? do i need to bother with anti virus and a like
[12:10] <cafuego> Aaron`: Well, that's a problem then. Linux runs Linux software, not Windows software.
[12:10] <Aaron`> ppl can be kool, when you say open ofice, does that mean it's open security
[12:10] <riotkittie> Aaron`: you may be able to run Microsoft Works under WINE but i am not sure.
[12:10] <ppl_can_b_kool> Aaron`: If you insist on clinging to Windows applications, there is wine.
[12:10] <Aaron`> wait
[12:10] <endo> I can't seem to get flash working very well in opera/firefox. Always geeking out and needed to refresh the page. Any fixes?
[12:10] <Aaron`> all i want is basically what everyone has
[12:10] <DrGizmondo_> sorry
[12:10] <MidnighToker> Aaron`, "open security?"
[12:10] <boselecta> i don't thing Aaron` can count on being able to get Wine going
[12:11] <cafuego> drgizmondo: On internet facing servers you need a firewall yes, on a desktop box behind nat, don't bother.
[12:11] <Aaron`> i want to install ubuntu linux and use it with all my other programs
[12:11] <Aaron`> like i have a link to ubuntu in the start menu
[12:11] <DrGizmondo_> and anti virus
[12:11] <cafuego> drgizmondo: I thought antivirus was for mail servers that handle mail for windows clients ;-)
[12:11] <MidnighToker> Aaron`, ubuntu (and/or linux) is not  a 'program'
[12:11] <Winball> and ms office
[12:11] <santander> unagi: you were right, aaron gets a lot of positive attention now :p
[12:11] <Aaron`> why isn't it?
[12:11] <dc905> Winball, wow --- @5megs , thats big!! :P   but apt-get intall'ed and good too go.. ubuntu 7.10 is nice =)
[12:11] <Aaron`> you install the cd and run it?
[12:11] <Aaron`> run then install*
[12:11] <riotkittie> it'd be lovely if we could stop being condescending towards people in here because they choose to buy hardware that isnt open, or use MS OSes/apps. granted most people aren't doing it, but a lot of people seem to be doing it lately, and it's grating.
[12:12] <MidnighToker> because ubuntu is a full operating system, a microsoft replacement, a state of mind.
[12:12] <cbox> hi hi, can someone help me with a small problem?
[12:12] <MidnighToker> not a user-app
[12:12] <Aaron`> i thought it was like a sort of alternative to windows, like a different theme kinda
[12:12] <Aaron`> well, more than a theme
[12:12] <astro76> Aaron`, you should really have your brother explain more, perhaps
[12:12] <Winball> dc905 What? I wouldn't know if 7.10 is nice
[12:12] <MidnighToker> Aaron`, i'd possibly show your brother a copy of the chat log too.
[12:12] <boselecta> Aaron`: can you name other programs that run from within windows, but are other alternatives to windows?
[12:12] <boselecta> i'm trying to understand here
[12:12] <dc905> Winball, i recommend it!  compiz built in.. what a killer setup
[12:12] <Aaron`> astro76: i haven't spoken to him in 2 months, i don't think i'll be talking to him ever again really
[12:13] <Comrade-Sergei> has anyone a HP DV9000 series laptop with ubuntu on iT?
[12:13] <MidnighToker> Aaron`, linux and windows both do roughly the same job, but they do it all completely differently. windows programs generally wont work on linux and vice vera
[12:13] <Winball> dc905: Bah I hate compiz :thumbsdown:
[12:13] <Aaron`> boselecta: well there's that firefox alternative to internet explorer
[12:13] <musashi> i got a dv2000
[12:13] <musashi> :(
[12:13] <boselecta> OK that's not the question though.
[12:13] <dc905> Winball, you dont like eyecandy? or just compiz ?
[12:13] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi was it difficult to install ubuntu?
[12:13] <Aaron`> firefox is to IE as what ubuntu is to windows
[12:13] <Aaron`> a
[12:13] <Aaron`> a different program
[12:14] <boselecta> so why would you expect ubuntu to run from inside windows?
[12:14] <Winball> dc905 I dont like eyecandy, its useless.  You can disable all the effects if you want.
[12:16] <MidnighToker> Aaron`, http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/  -it will tell you *everything* you need to know
[12:16] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, i had to do alot of stuff, but only cause im new to linux. someone else prolly could have done it in less than 4 days ._.
[12:16] <Aaron`> what's vm ware
[12:16] <dc905> Aaron`, you should go try vmware.. google it
[12:16] <astro76> !vmware | Aaron`
[12:16] <ubotu> Aaron`: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[12:16] <dc905> come back when u have it mastered ;)
[12:16] <Aaron`> err
[12:16] <Aaron`> multiverse? repository?
[12:16] <Aaron`> seriously
[12:16] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, im not exactly new to linux but ive never had to deal with this crap before
[12:17] <dc905> seriously
[12:17] <Aaron`> all i want is to get linux installed to try this book out
[12:17] <Winball> Just do it
[12:17] <boselecta> then use the live CD
[12:17] <astro76> !install | Aaron`
[12:17] <ubotu> Aaron`: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[12:17] <Aaron`> yeah i'm trying to understand how to install it on windows
[12:17] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, yea, i didnt really do linux before for the same reason
[12:17] <ppl_can_b_kool> Aaron`: It's not that hard. I'm sure the people here would be more than willing to take your hand a guide you through it.
[12:17] <dancios> i've got problem with X crashing and hanging. radeon 9250 driver radeon
[12:17] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, but we are using it in class so i gave it another go
[12:17] <Aaron`> i just want a program called ubuntu in the start menu
[12:17] <Aaron`> and then i click and it runs ubuntu
[12:17] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, what was your problem, again?
[12:17] <dc905> aaron - u need vmware
[12:17] <boselecta> Aaron`: it doesn't work like that. run the Live CD.
[12:18] <dc905> dont make me say it again, i will ping yo to death
[12:18] <CPrompt^> hi.  was wondering if someone would look at this menu.lst file and tell me if it is correct for the splashimage section before I reboot
[12:18] <Aaron`> ARGGH
[12:18] <CPrompt^> http://pastebin.com/m44dbeff6
[12:18] <santander> MasterShrek only think i finf that loks alike is linux-restricted-modules
[12:18] <Aaron`> why can't you people just tell me what i need to know
[12:18] <Winball> Aaron` You should also considder ubuntu wubi
[12:18] <notgod> MasterShrek: any other kernel/boot params I can try tweaking? like is there a noagp option or something?
[12:18] <dc905> can someone kick him? :P
[12:18] <boselecta> i just did. run the live CD. no installing required.
[12:18] <Aaron`> all i want to do is install ubuntu
[12:18] <santander> Aaron`: wubi is great, you don't need to know anything, it does all by itself
[12:18] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, my wifi, my sound and my crappy video drivers...
[12:18] <Aaron`> what is wubi?
[12:18] <Winball> dc905 did you get my msg?
[12:18] <mc44> !wubi | Aaron`
[12:18] <ubotu> Aaron`: wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[12:18] <blayde> Aaron`, Ubuntu needs complete control of it's hardware so you'll have to emulate hardware w/ vmware, qemu, etc
[12:19] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, my sound is still not working properly either...
[12:19] <ppl_can_b_kool> !wubi
[12:19] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, it works sometimes but not all the time
[12:19] <astro76> Aaron`, http://www.google.com/search?q=wubi
[12:19] <Aaron`> please
[12:19] <Aaron`> seriously
[12:19] <Esteth> Aaron` VMware will let you do that, but i think you have the idea wrong. Ubuntu is like windows. You use ubuntu instead of windows, not in windows
[12:19] <Aaron`> maybe i've got it wrong
[12:19] <Aaron`> ubuntu is a program, yeah?
[12:19] <PF|WSTP> Is there a way on Server that I can change permissions to list the contents of a dir via HTTP?
[12:19] <astro76> !ubuntu | Aaron`
[12:19] <ubotu> Aaron`: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[12:19] <gnr> oooer i installed compiz, not it wont detect my other monitor :o
[12:20] <dancios> i've got problem with X crashing and hanging. radeon 9250 driver radeon. The resul is that i cannot stop-reset X with combination A:T+CTRL+BACKSPACE or escape to console. dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 . ii  libc6          2.5-0ubuntu14  GNU C Library: Shared libraries
[12:20] <Aaron`> oh lord
[12:20] <Aaron`> brb
[12:20] <dc905> !php5
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about php5 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <boselecta> Esteth:  Aaron` knows that firefox is to IE as what ubuntu is to windows. he's trolling
[12:20] <Pelo> gnr,  ask in #ubuntu-effects or in #compiz-fusion , they'll be able to help you out with this
[12:20] <riotkittie> Pelo: just. say. no.
[12:20] <PF|WSTP> Is there a way on Server that I can change permissions to list the contents of a dir via HTTP?
[12:20] <Pelo> riotkittie,  you don'T think I should ?
[12:21] <mistone_> PF|WSTP: why not use FTP?
[12:21] <MidnighToker> pf in your apache config add +Indexes to Options
[12:21] <Esteth> boselecta: Oh, ok.
[12:21] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker where's the apache config
[12:21] <CPrompt^> PF|WSTP : if you ssh into the server you can do dir
[12:21] <santander> anyone: i've modprobed the right modules for a nic, it shows in lsmod, but not in ifconfig, what should i try?
[12:21] <mistone_> or ssh
[12:21] <PF|WSTP> I want this over HTTP for a reason
[12:21] <riotkittie> Pelo: oh go for it. you are good at what you do, and seem to have the patience of a saint.
[12:21] <PF|WSTP> >_>
[12:21] <dc905> Winball, get MY msg?? :P
[12:21] <ThePub> PF|WSTP: it's less an issue of permissions and more an issue of services.  http is for web pages, you might want to look into setting up a web dave server though.
[12:21] <MidnighToker> PF: i assume its /etc/apache2/httpd.conf  -unsure, i dont use Ubuntu on the server
[12:21] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker where's the apache config
[12:21] <Demortes> Good god, someone help me.
[12:22] <Demortes> lol
[12:22] <musashi> gl Comrade-Sergei, im actually in class so i gotta go
[12:22] <Comrade-Sergei> my mouse!
[12:22] <Pelo> riotkittie,  in here I can always tell ppl that I have to go , that helps a lot with the patience issue
[12:22] <Aaron`> right back
[12:22] <Blindraven> Demortes, whats up?
[12:22] <Aaron`> look, all i want is to install this ubuntu
[12:22] <Demortes> Wrong channel, gutsy, sorry
[12:22] <CPrompt^> PF|WSTP : then you are going to have to use server side scripting to do it  (PHP, Perl, etc)  or don't put an index.html page in that directory
[12:22] <Aaron`> i don't need another operational system
[12:22] <ppl_can_b_kool> Aaron`: welcome back.
[12:22] <neverblue2> does Gutsy have LTS ?
[12:22] <Aaron`> i have windows, that's all i need on my dell, right?
[12:22] <boselecta> then you don't need ubuntu
[12:22] <MidnighToker> Aaron`, that  is what ubuntu is.
[12:22] <brobostigon> hi, i have put my kubuntu machine into reccovery mode as it woodent boot, and constantly keeps showing io-error hdc sector 0, during boot, do i need to run fsck,and how do i do that??
[12:22] <Aaron`> is ubuntu ok on dells
[12:22] <neverblue2> !gutsy
[12:22] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[12:22] <PF|WSTP> CPrompt^, there isnt an index there
[12:22] <PF|WSTP> CPrompt^ it says "you dont have permissions to access /dir/ on this server"
[12:23] <Snuxoll> Aaron`: Yes
[12:23] <nickrud> lol, probably
[12:23] <CPrompt^> PF|WSTP : then you need to ssh into that directory and change the permissions.  Is this a web server or local?
[12:23] <Snuxoll> Dell sells machines with Ubuntu preinstalled if thats any clue
[12:23] <PF|WSTP> CPrompt^ web and local
[12:24] <PF|WSTP> CPrompt^ the dir is /var/www/stuff/
[12:24] <brobostigon> hi, i have put my kubuntu machine into reccovery mode as it woodent boot, and constantly keeps showing io-error hdc sector 0, during boot, do i need to run fsck,and how do i do that??
[12:24] <MidnighToker> Aaron`, whats the guide you're folling that says you need linux?
[12:24] <CPrompt^> PF|WSTP : then change the permissions to 750 and it should work fine
[12:24] <PF|WSTP> CPrompt^ ok
[12:24] <graelb> hi
[12:24] <Blindraven> chown 777 *.*
[12:24] <notgod> anyone have any idea how to make a server qith a quadro4 cars boot properly? Currently it garbles the screen entirely. The system boots, but I can't interact with it.
[12:24] <PF|WSTP> CPrompt^ didnt work. I even did 777 and it didnt work
[12:24] <Pelo> brobostigon, do a search in the forum for the exact error msg you get
[12:25] <MidnighToker> PF|WSTP, what version of apache?
[12:25] <Pelo> brobostigon, www.ubuntuforums.org
[12:25] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker, 2.2.4
[12:25] <graelb> I'm trying to run driftnet on my local machine, but it only shows pictures from my local machine... go figure, right? So is there a way to run it on my router, and see the output on my local machine?
[12:25] <PF|WSTP> er
[12:25] <PF|WSTP> 3
[12:25] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker, 2.2.3
[12:25] <CPrompt^> PF|WSTP : stupid question but are you in the correct directory?
[12:25] <MidnighToker> PF|WSTP, it wont show you a dir index unless you specifially enable it in the apache conf.
[12:25] <CheeseGardener> Is 10.9% contingous files bad for ubuntu?  is that too much fragmentation?
[12:25] <notgod> no x, plain text interface. Screen gets corrupted (wavy lines and dots across the screen)
[12:25] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker, ok I need to know how to do that then
[12:25] <CPrompt^> PF|WSTP : chmod 750 html_dir -R should work
[12:25] <MidnighToker> CheeseGardener, where did you get the info from?
[12:25] <lamego> CheeseGardener, you dont need to care about fragmention on linux filesystems
[12:26] <Pelo> graelb, are the pictures on the other computers in a shared folder ?
[12:26] <MidnighToker> PF|WSTP, if you create a webpage called index.html will it show it?
[12:26] <CheeseGardener> MidnighToker, I got it from a disk check.
[12:26] <CPrompt^> PF|WSTP : don't forget the -R so it is recursive and changes the files and subfolders
[12:26] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker, just a sec
[12:26] <CheeseGardener> MidnighToker, it is on /home
[12:26] <graelb> Pelo: no, driftnet is supposed to pick up stray packets as people on the network are browsing the web
[12:27] <graelb> well, stray packets of pictures
[12:27] <MidnighToker> CheeseGardener, what disk check? -sorry, new to ubuntu but intregued by the idea of none-contiguous files. i keep getting told there is a) no need and b) no way to defrag on linux
[12:27] <graelb> at least, that's the impression i got
[12:27] <Pelo> graelb, ah , don'T know the prog I was assuming something else
[12:27] <MidnighToker> CheeseGardener, infact, what file system?
[12:27] <lamego> MidnighToker, there is no need to defrag on linux
[12:27] <graelb> Ok, the real question is can i use everything that's installed on my computer, but run the program on another machine?
[12:27] <santander> i need help configuring a second nic in my pc
[12:27] <lamego> that indication, is just a statistical indication, with no major impact on performance
[12:28] <CheeseGardener> MidnightToker, it's EXT3
[12:28] <MidnighToker> lamego, is there no software to defrag fragmented files?
[12:28] <lamego> MidnighToker, there is a defrag utility, but it is not required
[12:28] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker, if I put an index.html, it just shows the text I put in the index
[12:28] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker not the files in the dir
[12:29] <Pelo> MidnighToker, ext3 does not need defragmenting, it works differently then FAT*  file systems which got ppl used to defrag
[12:29] <MidnighToker> PF|WSTP, ok, so the permissions are fine, infact i'd make a point of setting them back to 755 at miimum
[12:29] <MidnighToker> minimum*
[12:29] <MidnighToker> Pelo, k
[12:29] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker, done
[12:29] <MidnighToker> PF|WSTP, just check it can still see the index
[12:29] <cafuego> PF|WSTP: So apache is being good, the "Indexes" option is disabled on that dir, which means it won't show a list of files.
[12:29] <lamego> MidnighToker, ext3 and other linux FSs are not affected by fragmentation, it does exist but it does not affects the performance
[12:29] <MidnighToker> PF|WSTP, step two is to locate your httpd.conf... usually in /etc/apache2
[12:30] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker ok
[12:30] <MidnighToker> lamego, i find it impossible to believe it doesn't affect performance, infact due to the way my HDD works, it HAS TO.
[12:30] <astro76> !defrag
[12:30] <ubotu> defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[12:30] <cafuego> MidnighToker: You can probably do it via .htaccess instead of setting it globally.
[12:30] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker, the /etc/apache2/httpd.conf is empty
[12:30] <MidnighToker> cafuego, good point, ta
[12:31] <MidnighToker> PF|WSTP, hang on
[12:31] <lamego> MidnighToker, if you do not believe, please read about it, that is a very common question, replied on several forums and articles :)
[12:31] <Hilikus> is there any software like bootcamp or anything to organize yourself, todo list, reminders, all that crap, but downloadable? so that i can install it in my server?
[12:31] <[ASG] > smileglasses
[12:31] <CPrompt^> PS|WSTP : that's not a good sign
[12:31] <Pelo> lamego,  please pay attention , this issue was resolved a while back
[12:31] <Pelo> nvm
[12:31] <cwgannon> can somebody please tell me how to make my video files open with vlc by default?  it's not in Preferred Apps like i thought it would be
[12:32] <Esteth> Hilkus: I beleive Evolution (ships with ubuntu) does what you want, allthough i don't use it much
[12:32] <MidnighToker> PF|WSTP, try a file called ".htaccess" that contains the line "Options +Indexes"
[12:32] <cafuego> cwgannon: Right clock a video file, choose Properties > Open With
[12:32] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker in the dir?
[12:32] <MidnighToker> yup
[12:32] <PF|WSTP> ok
[12:33] <CheeseGardener> so wait, do I really have 10.9% contingous files?  or will that number go down???
[12:33] <Pelo> cwgannon,  assuming that vlc is installed ,    select a video file, right click,  properties,  select the open with tab,  add it , either from the list or form the  field at the bottom you only need to type vlc not the whole path
[12:33] <CheeseGardener> Can EXT3 file fragmentation go down a lot?
[12:33] <Redhammer_the_Ol> hi short (simple?) question, I have some KDE apps in Gnome and want to control their behaviour ie double click and single clikc -- how do I do it ? what control prg do I need to use? thanks
[12:33] <patbam> hi, when i attach an external usb drive i get "attached scsi disk sdb", and it shows up in the device manager. but i can't figure out how to access the contents
[12:33] <santander> hi, i earlier installed ubuntu 7.04 desktop and i needed to ad a module for extra nic via 'sudo modprobe 3c59x', after that the nic showed in ifconfig. now i've installed ubuntu 7.04 server and i did again 'sudo modprobe 3c59x' , and it shows in lsmod, but my nix doesnt show in ifconfig, what should i try?
[12:33] <MidnighToker> CheeseGardener, i say you need to defrag, linux or not. if the files are fragmented then it means the drive head is having to move to re-seek. that HAS to slow things down.
[12:33] <gnr> Anyone here had problems with twinview maximising to both screens? anyone manage to fix it?
[12:33] <cwgannon> cafuego & Pelo: vlc isn't listed, so i enter that as the command, but that only opens vlc (and not the file i'm trying to play)
[12:33] <PF|WSTP> MidnighToker nope
[12:34] <Pelo> CheeseGardener,  the system will take care of that as you go , don'T worrry about it , it will go down
[12:34] <lamego> MidnighToker, do not say what you don't know about, you do not need to defrag with EXT3 !!!
[12:34] <Hilikus> Esteth but i dont want an application, im running a server, i want something to set up an online service
[12:34] <lamego> MidnighToker, before starting with theoretical generic advices, read something, please
[12:34] <cafuego> cwgannon: You can choose a custom command and enter 'vlc' there.
[12:34] <Hilikus> something than runs on apache
[12:34] <Pelo> cwgannon,  you need to add vlc to the open with tab,  after that , that type of video file will open with vlc,  you need to do it for each file type
[12:34] <MidnighToker> lamego, give me a link to read then
[12:35] <cwgannon> cafuego & Pelo: vlc isn't listed, so i enter that as the command, but that only opens vlc (and not the file i'm trying to play)
[12:35] <cafuego> Hilikus: There is any number of freely available groupware suites
[12:35] <Pelo> MidnighToker,  I beleive the ext3 article on wikipedia has a nice summery
[12:35] <CheeseGardener> Pelo, oh, so the system will defrag itself as it goes along?  The reason I ask is, when I went to gutsy, I had to force the computer to shut down sometimes when it froze, until I was able to fix it.  But will EXT3 fix any fragments on its own?
[12:35] <MidnighToker> Pelo, ta
[12:35] <cafuego> cwgannon: You may need vlc "%s"
[12:35] <lamego> MidnighToker, google.com: linux defrag
[12:35] <gnr> having troubles with twinview, windows maximise to both screens... any1 manage to fix this?
[12:35] <Esteth> Hiikus: ohh, sorry, i misunderstood. I don't know of any downloadable productivity suites myself, for installing on servers
[12:35] <Hilikus> cafuego but i want to run them on my server. most of them are free but THEY host it
[12:35] <boselecta> cwgannon: did you install VLC the right way? or by hand?
[12:36] <astro76> MidnighToker, http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/index.php/2006/08/17/why_doesn_t_linux_need_defragmenting
[12:36] <cafuego> Hilikus: Not at all, lots of free self-host ones.
[12:36] <cwgannon> cafuego: just tried it with no luck
[12:36] <boselecta> because i have it installed and it turns up automatically in my open-with list
[12:36] <cwgannon> boselecta: installed via synaptic, will try a reinstall now though
[12:36] <Hilikus> cafuego so i cant find them, can you give me names?
[12:36] <Pelo> later folks
[12:36] <MidnighToker> astro76, thanks
[12:37] <boselecta> my open-with vlc command is wxvlc
[12:37] <cafuego> Hilikus: zimbra (needs fairly big box, not 100% open, but nice) or IMP or Groupoffice or phpgroupware
[12:37] <Hilikus> cool, thanks
[12:37] <cafuego> Hilikus: have a search on www.freshmeat.net
[12:37] <markelhas> hi ppl, yesterday i was trying to config my d-link dwl-g650m. i've test to many things, but i've managed to put it working. However after a reboot the wireless don't work any more. How can i trace the problem? plz hlp.
[12:37] <Hilikus> cafuego what are they called?
[12:37] <CheeseGardener> MidnighToker, so linux will defrag itself more or less?
[12:37] <Hilikus> organizers?
[12:37] <cafuego> Hilikus: search for groupware there
[12:37] <Hilikus> ok
[12:37] <boselecta> cwgannon: my open-with vlc command is wxvlc
[12:37] <zaggy-nl> Is it normal for the livecd to take ages and ages to load?
[12:37] <P_Kable> What tool should I use to check a hard drive completely (sectors and all of that...)
[12:37] <boselecta> zaggy-nl: comparatively, yes
[12:38] <cafuego> Hilikus: server based ones are all designed to provide shared calendar/contacts/mail for multiple users.
[12:38] <astro76> CheeseGardener, yeah an that article points out that files can be re-arranged on the fly
[12:38] <markelhas> !wireless
[12:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:38] <MidnighToker> CheeseGardener, not that i know of, but then everyone seems to be telling me i'm wrong so i wouldn't pay me any attention ;)
[12:38] <zaggy-nl> boselecta, I'm installing it on a 256MB RAM laptop, cd drive keeps making noise, taking forever!
[12:38] <cafuego> Hilikus: A few of these are packaged for Ubuntu as well, so you cna install them via aptitude.
[12:38] <boselecta> zaggy-nl: that will take a while. is it doing anything on the screen?
[12:39] <MidnighToker> astro76, thanks for the link but it tells me linux FS's dont get fragmented. i have info here saying one is, so the link doesn't really help
[12:39] <cwgannon> boselecta: wxvlc doesn't work either after a reinstall
[12:39] <zaggy-nl> boselecta, yes, I just started the installation, It's at the languages menu, my cursor dissappeared, no keyboard/mouse response
[12:39] <boselecta> weird
[12:39] <cdm10> MidnighToker: What makes you think it's fragmented?
[12:39] <astro76> MidnighToker, is your disk >80% full, the article says fragmentation can occur if it is
[12:39] <markelhas> hi ppl, yesterday i was trying to config my d-link dwl-g650m. i've test to many things, but i've managed to put it working. However after a reboot the wireless don't work any more. How can i trace the problem? plz hlp.
[12:40] <zaggy-nl> I'm downloading the alternate gutsy cd now, should be faster
[12:40] <MidnighToker> cdm10, it was CheeseGardener saying he had "10% none contiguous files"
[12:40] <cdm10> MidnighToker: Linux filesystems get fragmented, but nowhere near as easily or as badly as Windows filesystems. If it's below 10% fragmentation, there's really no need to defragment.
[12:40] <boselecta> cwgannon: do you need to re-start gnome or something for the change to register, maybe?
[12:40] <silvia> trivialatina
[12:40] <[ASG] > !start
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about start - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:41] <cwgannon> boselecta: will try that
[12:41] <gnr> in my nvidia setup im getting the error "unable to to remove old X config backup file" when i remove this manually i get the error "unable to creat X config backup file" lol.... what am i doing wrong?
[12:41] <markelhas> ppl some help one my wifi problem plz.
[12:41] <P_Kable> What tool should I use to check a hard drive completely (sectors and all of that...)
[12:41] <P_Kable> please
[12:41] <cdm10> P_Kable: fsck
[12:41] <lamego> P_Kable, dd
[12:41] <MidnighToker> CheeseGardener, right, done some googling. the fragmentation you see is not file fragmentation, so its not a problem
[12:41] <MidnighToker> http://dataexpedition.com/~sbnoble/Tips/filesystems.html
[12:41] <P_Kable> cdm10=>  fsck /dev/sdb1 is a complete test ?
[12:41] <cdm10> P_Kable: DD is for copying a drive, fsck is for checking it.
[12:41] <intr80_> P_Kable: spinright
[12:41] <CheeseGardener> MidnighToker, it's not?  Then what is it?
[12:42] <boselecta> fsck is for checking a filesystem
[12:42] <P_Kable> spinright ?
[12:42] <Derspankster> creative audigy 2 soundcard ok with ubuntu?
[12:42] <noelferreira> how can i check my disk for erros?
[12:42] <intr80_> grc.com
[12:42] <lamego> fsck does a file system check, does it sector reading for the entire disk ?
[12:42] <cdm10> P_Kable: hold on, lemme get the command... generally it's not a good idea to run fsck in read/write mode on a mounted partition so I'm checking how to make it read-only.
[12:42] <P_Kable> yeah fsck is for FS
[12:42] <gnr> in my nvidia setup im getting the error "unable to to remove old X config backup file" when i remove this manually i get the error "unable to create X config backup file" lol.... what am i doing wrong?
[12:42] <lamego> cdm10, by reading the entire disk, you are checking for physical errors
[12:42] <cafuego> lamego: it will if you give it the right options
[12:42] <P_Kable> I unmounted the partition already cdm10
[12:42] <cdm10> P_Kable: oh, you're looking for more than an FS check? Then use Spinrite.
[12:42] <MidnighToker> CheeseGardener, have a look at thelink, under fragmentation/optimisation
[12:42] <P_Kable> and fsck seems to be too fast for a good "check"
[12:43] <cdm10> CheeseGardener: anything 10% or below won't cause any problems, you really shouldn't try to defrag your partition.
[12:43] <P_Kable> spinrite or spinright ??
[12:43] <lamego> fsck is good only for FS structure checks, not for surface scans, if that is the case
[12:43] <cdm10> P_Kable: SpinRite
[12:43] <noelferreira> my systems interrupted because of electric failure and on boot i had IO erros in my drive. how can i check for it and maybe correct them?
[12:43] <P_Kable> ok
[12:43] <lamego> noelferreira, fsck
[12:43] <P_Kable> thx cdm10
[12:43] <paotzu> cdm10: on linux it is not really a concern about "fragmentation" but "linearization."  That's why fsck reports data as "contiguous"
[12:44] <cafuego> if all you want is a blocks test, use `badblocks'.
[12:44] <cdm10> paotzu: I realize that, I'm just saying that CheeseGardener shouldn't be worried about fragmentation...
[12:44] <markelhas> yesterday i was trying to config my d-link dwl-g650m. i've test to many things, but i've managed to put it working. However after a reboot the wireless don't work any more. How can i trace the problem? plz hlp.
[12:44] <cdm10> markelhas: what chipset is that card? run lspci to find out.
[12:44] <paotzu> cdm10: ah I came in after that part
[12:44] <cdm10> markelhas: pastebin your lspci results
[12:44] <P_Kable> cdm10=>  spinrite is not in the repos :(
[12:44] <CheeseGardener> MidnighToker, so what is continous data?  I'm confused.
[12:44] <cdm10> !paste | markelhas
[12:44] <ubotu> markelhas: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:44] <cdm10> P_Kable: it's a $90 program from grc.com
[12:44] <gnr> in my nvidia setup im getting the error "unable to to remove old X config backup file" when i remove this manually i get the error "unable to creat X config backup file" lol.... what am i doing wrong?
[12:44] <cdm10> P_Kable: but it's the best for actual HD checks.
[12:44] <MidnighToker> CheeseGardener, you know, i really dont know any more :S
[12:45] <P_Kable> damn
[12:45] <cdm10> P_Kable: if you just want to check the entire filesystem, fsck will be fine.
[12:45] <cdm10> P_Kable: if you back up regularly, I wouldn't worry about anything.
[12:45] <P_Kable> no I wanna check the HD
[12:45] <lamego> cdm10, why are you advising for comercial software when there is open source software on the repositories for the same purpose :) ?
[12:45] <cafuego> P_Kable: Like I said, `badblocks'.
[12:45] <cdm10> lamego: Well, I don't know of the open software.
[12:45] <cdm10> lamego: What is it?
[12:45] <markelhas> cdm10, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40750/
[12:45] <santander> i have a problem, i asked before, now i put it on : http://pastebin.com/m7ebbb9ed
[12:46] <CheeseGardener> MidnighToker, alright.  Thanks anyway for the help!  I appreciate it.  L8er
[12:46] <cdm10> I mean, I've heard great things about SpinRite, so I was just recommending it.
[12:46] <lamego> read what other people already mentioned, like, badblocks, dd
[12:46] <cwgannon> boselecta: restart of gnome didn't fix the vlc issue
[12:46] <boselecta> hm
[12:46] <paotzu> P_Kable: if you want to extract the data and also see where there are problems, you can image your partition with ddrescue (no underscore)
[12:46] <cdm10> lamego: dd copies stuff, it doesn't scan the disk for surface errors.
[12:46] <markelhas> cdm10, i've managed to put it work either with ndiswapper or mad-wifi tools
[12:46] <lamego> cdm10, not again, dd reads data, if you run dd over an entire disk, it will trigger any disk I/O errors
[12:46] <cdm10> markelhas: I'm not familiar with how to get wifi working with that card, so I can't help you there.
[12:46] <markelhas> cdm10, but now i do the same process but the card don't work
[12:47] <markelhas> :(
[12:47] <lamego> you can dd to dev null just to read the entire disk
[12:47] <paotzu> P_Kable: if it makes an image of your partition without having to read the same bits over and over, you have no problems
[12:47] <cdm10> lamego: yeah, but if the disk is failing but the ECC works ok, wouldn't it not find any errors?
[12:47] <boselecta> so VLC is in the applications menu, and it runs properly, but doesn't appear in the "Open With" menu.
[12:47] <odomsbar_> --*-*----654
[12:47] <odomsbar_> ';pklikjup;jkoiokjiokllkl
[12:47] <cdm10> boselecta: so right click on the file of the type you want to set to open with VLC, go to Properties>Open With and add VLC manually.
[12:47] <cwgannon> boselecta: right
[12:47] <P_Kable> paotzu=>  I do not have space for an image, the drive is 200GB and 90% full
[12:47] <markelhas> "yesterday i was trying to config my d-link dwl-g650m. i've test to many things, but i've managed to put it working. However after a reboot the wireless don't work any more. How can i trace the problem? plz hlp."
[12:48] <P_Kable> but thx paotzu
[12:48] <lamego> cdm10, dd is a nice tool, for a trivial testing
[12:48] <markelhas> any tips ppl?
[12:48] <astro76> boselecta, yeah you're right, you can type vlc into custom command
[12:48] <Gin> boselecta, you have to right click on the file and chose open with other.. and then select vlc. after that it iwill shows "open with vlc" for that type of files
[12:48] <cdm10> lamego: alright
[12:48] <astro76> boselecta, it doesn't show in my open with either
[12:49] <cwgannon> boselecta: i'm doing what you advise, but neither "vlc" nor "wxvlc" as commands work entirely -- they do open vlc but do not open the file at all
[12:49] <boselecta> weird. anyway it's cwgannon with the problem. s/he claims that even manually setting the "open with" to vlc or wxvlc does not work.
[12:49] <MidnighToker> if i install a second HDD into my computer, will Ubuntu try and read it at boot time?
[12:49] <boselecta> ok i see. maybe there's a filename expando or something you have to put in there.
[12:49] <cafuego> MidnighToker: Not normally until you partitiln, format and mount it.
[12:49] <cwgannon> boselecta: i'm wondering if this is because the file is on a samba share...?
[12:50] <cafuego> MidnighToker: if it's already got filesystems, just add it to /etc/fstab.
[12:50] <astro76> cwgannon, yeah that could definitely be it
[12:50] <cwgannon> hrmm
[12:50] <MidnighToker> cafuego, its partitioned and formatted, i just dont want the OS to try mounting it or anything... want to DD it to another box as its a non-booting system from another PC
[12:50] <astro76> cwgannon, not all apps support however it is that gnome mounts stuff, but you can mount samba shares for real in your /etc/fstab
[12:51] <cafuego> MidnighToker: Even if it goes mount it, just unmount it again ;-)
[12:51] <markelhas> can any one help me with wifi config?
[12:51] <lamego> MidnighToker, yes, the disk should be recognized, just look for it with: sudo fdisk -l
[12:51] <MidnighToker> cafuego, well, yeah, i just dont want Ubuntu boot to try fixing it or anything
[12:51] <astro76> MidnighToker, unless it's in your fstab it won't be mounted or checked
[12:52] <MidnighToker> astro76, ta
[12:52] <cafuego> MidnighToker: it won't try to fix it unless it's in fstab to begin with.
[12:52] <cwgannon> boselecta & astro76: confirmed working now with a local file -- can you please explain how to make opening with vlc the default?
[12:52] <MidnighToker> is there any file system recovery software in the Ubuntu package manager?
[12:53] <cwgannon> astro76: is it advisable to mount my samba shares with /etc/fstab?  are there any repercussions i should be aware of?
[12:53] <astro76> cwgannon, no that's perfectly sane
[12:53] <astro76> cwgannon, *yes
[12:53] <markelhas> "yesterday i was trying to config my d-link dwl-g650m. i've test to many things, but i've managed to put it working. However after a reboot the wireless don't work any more. How can i trace the problem? plz hlp."
[12:53] <boselecta> cwgannon: all i can suggest is what i've already said. right click on the file and set the open-with.
[12:53] <cafuego> cwgannon: use the 'credentials' option to specify login details, so you don't have the user/pass readable in fstab.
[12:54] <astro76> MidnighToker, besides fsck?
[12:54] <cwgannon> boselecta: thank you for your help
[12:55] <MidnighToker> astro76, well, yeah :S
[12:55] <boselecta> sorry i couldn't do more.
[12:55] <lamego> MidnighToker, yes, there is a tool called "testdisk"
[12:55] <cwgannon> cafuego & astro76: thanks for the help on mounting the samba share (i'm following this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255872&highlight=mounting+shares)
[12:55] <lamego> testdisk - Partition scanner and disk recovery tool
[12:55] <youknowme> can I connect to computers with Ubuntu loaded on them directly to each other through they're Ethernet ports and have a network-like file transfer set-up?
[12:55] <youknowme> *2
[12:55] <sashimi> hi everybody
[12:56] <MidnighToker> youknowme, you need the correct type of network cable, but yes
[12:56] <astro76> cwgannon, that looks good
[12:56] <sashimi> could someone give me a hand with bluetooth on gusty ?
[12:56] <edubuntu> Crossover set ips to same subnet
[12:56] <MidnighToker> lamego, thanks.  -and for my last question: how can i create a partition spanning two physical drives?
[12:56] <sashimi> !bluetooth
[12:56] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[12:56] <lamego> MidnighToker, using LVM
[12:56] <MidnighToker> !lvm
[12:56] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[12:57] <MidnighToker> woo!
[12:57] <linnoob> chello?
[12:57] <cwgannon> boselecta: i'm an idiot and misread part of your suggestions and you did indeed tell me how to make videos open by default in vlc, so thank you once more
[12:57] <tds> can someone help me with samba? i'm a complete newb
[12:57] <MidnighToker> !samba
[12:57] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:57] <MidnighToker> hehe, i'm liking this bot
[12:58] <youknowme> midnightoker: so technically it should work? But I have tried it, well, I tried using vncviewer with it, but I still had them directly connected.
[12:58] <youknowme> WHat do you mean "right kind of cable" should not standard eth cable work?
[12:58] <Taj> hi
[12:58] <P_Kable> does spinrite runs on linux ? just wanna make sure ...
[12:58] <Taj> hi every one
[12:58] <lamego> youknowme, no, it must be a cross-over cable
[12:58] <linnoob> hey is anyone availible to help a hopeless linux noob?
[12:58] <P_Kable> it looks like a windows type application
[12:58] <mc44> linnoob: just ask your question :)
[12:58] <MidnighToker> youknowme, connecting two PCs together (without a switch/router/hub) needs a crossover cable. pairs 1+2 are swapped over (so send goes to recieve and vice versa)
[12:58] <linnoob> its a bit complicated
[12:58] <lamego> P_Kable, have you tried badblocks already ?
[12:58] <Taj> i am new to ubuntu and want to know one thing that do ubuntu support intel wireless 2200bg?
[12:59] <linnoob> no
[12:59] <P_Kable> lamego=>  nope
[12:59] <linnoob> i have that and it doesnt work
[12:59] <maxo> is it worth upgrading to the 7.1rc? I mean, is it pretty stable?
[12:59] <maxo> * Ubuntu 7.1 release candidate
[12:59] <lamego> P_Kable, badblocks is the standard tool to detect and mark bad disk blocks
[12:59] <lamego> maxo, 3 days and you have the final release, wait :)
[12:59] <maxo> lamego: what about the rc though? is it worth it?
[01:00] <P_Kable> but how about spinrite ? is it linux compatible ?
[01:00] <linnoob> ok, so my 8800 drivers arent working, when i enable the drivers and restart my computer, the thing f's up and i get all these weird ass colors and letters and it basically says that it cant load the drivers
[01:00] <lamego> well, I am using it, nothing to complain about ;)
[01:00] <Kudak> when 7.10 gets out, can i upgrade my 7.4 to it ????
[01:00] <P_Kable> is there a package ?
[01:00] <Taj> yes
[01:00] <maxo> ok, hell I might as well try it. but if my computer blows up, I blame you all lol
[01:00] <linnoob> i tried downloading the latest drivers, but once i get them, i have no idea what to do with them
[01:00] <Taj> you can upgrade...
[01:00] <youknowme> midnightoker: ohic, well forwarding ports on my router never seems to work.
[01:00] <youknowme> Would it be wise to forward all ports to be sure? as for the Internet and my open ports, would it not be the same as if I was directly connected to the net?
[01:00] <seanh> Hey, did the realplayer package get removed for gutsy?
[01:00] <Kudak> Taj: aight thanks.
[01:00] <lamego> P_Kable, no, spinrite is not available on the repositories
[01:00] <n3tfury> /disconnect
[01:00] <P_Kable> I know
[01:00] <MidnighToker> youknowme, why do you want to portforward everything? --what are you actually trying to do?
[01:00] <n3tfury> /leave
[01:01] <P_Kable> but how does it work ?
[01:01] <MidnighToker> hehe
[01:01] <linnoob> anyone knoe what to do?
[01:01] <boselecta> seanh: i spent an entire night trying to make realplayer go and had nothing but probs on gutsy.
[01:01] <lamego> P_Kable, this is not the best place to ask about a comercial application, which is not ubuntu neither linux related
[01:01] <Taj> just wanna know if some one know that do ubuntu support intel wireless 2200bg i try mandrake and it doesn't work for me... :(
[01:02] <P_Kable> Of course lamego but I presumed someone used it here at least once ... :)
[01:02] <lamego> P_Kable, no, you just got that app name, from a non linux user :)
[01:02] <youknowme> midnightoke: I have never been able to set up a network or do anything useful rather than share a net connection with a router.
[01:02] <youknowme> I'd like to try setting something up, even dabble in using a thin-client.
[01:02] <seanh> boselecta -- did you figure out how to play real audio streams? I've been using mplayer but it's crashing
[01:02] <linnoob> sooooo no one knows how to make nvidia drivers work?
[01:02] <Taj> i have acer 4060 laptop and in mandava 2007 it say press the wireless button
[01:02] <linnoob> or how to install drivers???
[01:02] <itnomad> Taj: it works. There is an freenode channel for support.
[01:02] <boselecta> seanh no i ended up getting wmv streams working instead.
[01:02] <lamego> linnoob, nvidia drivers work out of the box for most cards
[01:03] <youknowme> linnoob, restricted manager?
[01:03] <itnomad> I can't remember the name, I am checking now.
[01:03] <P_Kable> lamego=>  from a non linux user ??
[01:03] <boselecta> had no luck with realvideo
[01:03] <Kudak> Taj: maybe this will help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=309041
[01:03] <maxo> Taj: google, first result: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=309041
[01:03] <Tixer> I just installed Gutsy, and it broke my install of Icecast by giving me a fatal error when I try to run it.
[01:03] <Taj> can you please provide me channel name for support.
[01:03] <maxo> kudak, you beat me to it lol
[01:03] <Pici> Tixer: Please join #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy support/discussion.
[01:03] <Kudak> maxo: lol :)
[01:03] <Frogzoo> Tixer: pretty sure gutsy's not released yet
[01:03] <Frogzoo> !gutsy
[01:03] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[01:05] <itnomad> Taj: ipw2100
[01:05] <Kudak> anyone knows a good book that teaches all about network related topics such as protocols and so on, i need a book that starts with the very basics and teaches "how things work"
[01:05] <itnomad> that is the channel name. all you need to know is in the links provided when you join the channel, most likely.
[01:06] <jason|ca> hi -- im trying to share files from my fiesty Kubuntu drive to a windows 2000 machine.  i can access the machine but it keeps rejecting my  username and password -- i need help please
[01:06] <Taj> i read that post before but the thing is that do ubuntu 7.04 support wireless 2200bg out of the box
[01:06] <Taj> like suse 10.3
[01:07] <MidnighToker> jason|ca, using ubuntu as the server?
[01:07] <Taj> mandrava 2007.1 do not support
[01:07] <] tyndareus] > hi everyone
[01:07] <jason|ca> yes
[01:08] <MidnighToker> jason|ca, make sure its shared on the ubuntu machine, on the windows box run `net use z: \\[ubuntu] \[share name\ /USER:[username on ubuntu box]
[01:08] <MidnighToker> `
[01:08] <jason|ca> MidnighToker: ok
[01:09] <Scunizi> What are the default port numbers for the built in Remote Desktop in Ubuntu from "system/preferances" ?
[01:09] <MidnighToker> Scunizi, 5800, 5900
[01:09] <MidnighToker> Scunizi, its VNC
[01:09] <Scunizi> MidnighToker, do I need both?
[01:09] <MidnighToker> Scunizi, just 5900 if you have a client
[01:10] <MidnighToker> 5800 is a web/java interface usually
[01:10] <Scunizi> MidnighToker, yea.. I'll be using tightvnc on a win box into my machine.
[01:10] <jazzanova> how can I find out what version of ubuntu I am no
[01:10] <PreZLaptop> bah, GG download keeps bouncing between 120-180kb/s :(
[01:10] <Seveas> jazzanova, lsb_release -a
[01:11] <PreZLaptop> it should be able to go up to about 2.5mb/s on my link :(
[01:11] <graelb> Quick question. In a man file, if something says [-] option, what does the brackets around the - mean?
[01:11] <Seveas> graelb, reading the manpage for ps? :)
[01:11] <jason|ca> MidnighToker: for some reason it keeps reporting network name not found
[01:12] <Comrade-Sergei> where is the sources.list file?
[01:12] <graelb> ps? ifconfig
[01:12] <MidnighToker> jason|ca, can you ping the box?
[01:12] <nickrud> Comrade-Sergei: /etc/apt
[01:12] <mc44> PreZLaptop: the mirrors may not be as fast as your link ;)
[01:12] <Comrade-Sergei> thanks nickrud i forgot again
[01:12] <Seveas> graelb, they mean that the - is optional
[01:12] <jason|ca> MidnighToker: yes
[01:12] <graelb> Seveas:  I'm trying to put my eth1 into promiscuous mode
[01:12] <graelb> on my home network /disclaimer
[01:12] <MidnighToker> jason|ca did you set up samba on the remote box?
[01:13] <jason|ca> remote = ubuntu?
[01:13] <jason|ca> yes
[01:13] <MidnighToker> yea
[01:13] <MidnighToker> odd....
[01:13] <jason|ca> i can ping by IP not necess by name
[01:13] <jason|ca> and i changed the netuse to reflect the ip
[01:13] <MidnighToker> jason|ca, kk  -can did you use hostname or IP in the net use command?
[01:13] <jason|ca> i used the ip
[01:13] <tds> can someone help me with samba?
[01:13] <PreZLaptop> mc44, well, I just can't see an option to 'switch servers'
[01:14] <MidnighToker> jason|ca, any firewalls on any of the boxes? how are they conencted? what IPs?
[01:14] <mc44> PreZLaptop: there isn't one :)
[01:14] <graelb> Seveas: Do you know anything about driftnet?
[01:14] <jason|ca> connected via switch ips are <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>(the ubuntu box) firewall on the ubuntu box has been opened to allow samba
[01:15] <MidnighToker> jason|ca, do me a favor and completely disable the firewall on the ubuntu box
[01:15] <e-voc> good evening everyone
[01:15] <jason|ca> MidnighToker: how?
[01:15] <MidnighToker> morning e-voc
[01:15] <shanti> hi .. s1 please explain to me the difference between LTS-Version and default-ubuntu ? .. tnx
[01:16] <MidnighToker> jason|ca, no idea. how did you configure it?
[01:16] <Pici> !lts | shanti
[01:16] <ubotu> shanti: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[01:16] <jason|ca> it comes installed -- i configured it with   firestarter
[01:16] <e-voc> i'm running a feisty fawn on a laptop. is it worth and okay to update to gutsy already?
[01:16] <joevandyk> What's 'xylap' and why was it absolutely killing my box?
[01:16] <Snuxoll> e-voc: 3 days, might as well wait
[01:16] <Kudak> e-voc: wait 3 days for final realise
[01:16] <Pici> joevandyk: its a screensaver iirc
[01:17] <e-voc> Snuxoll: ah, till the final?
[01:17] <shanti> Pici: yes but are there any other features but support ?
[01:17] <MidnighToker> jason|ca, i'll have a look for instructions, but disabling the firewall would be the frist place i would start
[01:17] <Pici> shanti: nope. LTS = Long Term Support.
[01:17] <e-voc> okay, nice. i'll be patient :)
[01:17] <shanti> TNX ;-)
[01:17] <jason|ca> MidnighToker: ok
[01:17] <Snuxoll> e-voc: Yes, the RC is stable and if you really want you COULD upgrade
[01:17] <Snuxoll> e-voc: But the final will have more bugs worked out
[01:17] <Pici> e-voc: and better support.
[01:17] <e-voc> Snuxoll: okay thanks :)
[01:18] <Frogzoo> e-voc: usually even after release, there's a flurry of updates - best to wait
[01:18] <dude> slight problem here - i can boot fine from livecd, but trying to boot from flash drive installation gives me the dreaded "can't access tty; job control turned off" error. any idea what might be causing that?
[01:18] <PreZLaptop> found it :)
[01:19] <jason|ca> MidnighToker: killing the firewall in firestarter had no impact
[01:19] <jason|ca> same result
[01:19] <Kudak> anyone knows a good book that teaches all about network related topics such as protocols and so on, i need a book that starts with the very basics and teaches "how things work"
[01:20] <MidnighToker> jason|ca, not sure about on ubuntu but you used to have to create a samba user `smbpasswd -a username` once a system user of that name existed
[01:20] <jason|ca> MidnighToker: ok - -worth a try
[01:20] <gnomefreak> Kudak: networking for dummies? atleast i think ive seen that
[01:21] <gnomefreak> Kudak: dummy books are about as basic as you can get i have 30+ of them
[01:21] <awalton__> kudak: Wikipedia is actually a good place to start for that kind of thing
[01:21] <Frogzoo> dude: for help with "can't acess tty" in Feisty, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=421588&highlight=tty+job+control.
[01:21] <jason|ca> MidnighToker: that did it
[01:21] <MidnighToker> jason|ca, coolio, should have thought about that earlier, sorry
[01:21] <jason|ca> np  -thanks man
[01:22] <Kudak> alright thanks guys
[01:22] <Pici> !ttyerror
[01:22] <ubotu> If you get an error on boot similar to  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off , you can try the fixes proposed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TTYError
[01:22] <StevieWonder> Hello all very quick question.  If I install the Gutsy RC will it update to the final version on release day and beyond?
[01:23] <Frogzoo> StevieWonder: who knows?
[01:23] <Pici> StevieWonder: yes. Further questions in #ubuntu+1
[01:24] <kurumin> Hello, there!
[01:24] <FluxD> Hi, I have a problem. I am on Fiesty. When I use to plugin my NTFS formatted external it used to mount read only. But now its not even mounting. Any suggestions?
[01:24] <StevieWonder> Thank you both
[01:24] <jthomas_> Hi, Where can I find a tutorial on building a LAMP Server from source?
[01:24] <idnzo> hey, i am getting the following error when trying to upgrade:  files list file for package `mythtv-themes' contains empty filename
[01:24] <idnzo> it wont let me remove the package or anything, or install any new ones, any ideas?
[01:25] <Pici> jthomas_: lamp is just linux, apache, mysql, php/perl/python.   Install those from source and tada, you're done.
[01:25] <Kudak> is it usefull to learn Python?? or not used much nowdays ?
[01:26] <jthomas_> Pici: I don't have to combine them to work together?
[01:26] <Pici> jthomas_: well you need to make sure that they are configured to work together, but otherwise, no.
[01:26] <jforman> anyone in here running ubuntu with X on a sparc system? i am having a bit of trouble getting X to fire up
[01:26] <Pici> jthomas_: its not one big package.
[01:26] <ianm_> Kudak: it is used for app development and also for many ubuntu system utilities and scripts
[01:27] <Kudak> ianm_: oh i see, thx.
[01:27] <ianm_> Kudak: not a bad language.  Ruby is sexier though :D
[01:27] <jthomas_> Pici: I know that, but I am saying if i do them 1 by 1 and they'l l work together
[01:27] <PreZLaptop> much better
[01:28] <PreZLaptop> getting almost 2mb/s now ;)
[01:28] <dude> frogbzoo: that didn't work, froze the system with blinking capslock and numlock lights
[01:28] <PreZLaptop> how to turn a 3-4 hour upgrade into a 15 minute one ;)
[01:28] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, I got it!!!
[01:28] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, o.o which part?
[01:29] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, the video! this is awesome
[01:29] <musashi> ah sweet
[01:29] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, i used "envy" and it did it all for me, i can even run beryl now!
[01:29] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, :) grat.  did u solve the sound problem?
[01:29] <minus> Compiz Fusion++ Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon++ ;)
[01:30] <knifehat> Anyone heard of a problem where ubuntu freezes when booting unless the computer has just been restarted from windows?
[01:30] <Pici> !gutsy
[01:30] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[01:30] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, not yet, i got to do that and wifi yet then its out with vista!
[01:30] <minus> Pici, Im not asking for support... Im just here cause I can xD
[01:30] <dwxreaper> i can type sudo su at the terminal and it works, if i am in gnome, and i open gedit, i can't save files because i am not root
[01:30] <Ademan> is there any way to execute a *.desktop file from the command line?
[01:30] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, lol, i have vista, xp, and ubuntu xD
[01:30] <dwxreaper> how do i open gedit so i can save files from gnome
[01:31] <Pici> minus: we have #ubuntu-offtopic for random chat
[01:31] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, ubuntu was doing some wierd stuff to my wireless card...
[01:31] <xtlosx> hey has anyone had any success installing the Release candidate of Gutsy Gibbon on a Macbook Pro?  Last time I tried, it installed, but when I rebooted after install, it wouldn't do anything just a black screen..... any ideas?
[01:31] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, ive had vista ultimate and i got to say its not that bad
[01:31] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, hopefully i fixed it..
[01:31] <adante> hi, i've installed swf-player, what else do i need todo to be able to use flash in firefox?
[01:31] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, ive had sooooo many problems with broadcom chips
[01:31] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, i cant stand anything that lags for no obvious reason
[01:31] <Comrade-Sergei> yea
[01:32] <xtlosx> anyone... macbook pro, ubuntu?  Anything special that needs to be done?
[01:32] <dwxreaper> i can type sudo su at the terminal and it works, if i am in gnome, and i open gedit, i can't save files because i am not root
[01:32] <dwxreaper> how do i open gedit so i can save files from gnome
[01:32] <Esteth> adante: i beleive ubuntu-restricted-extras covers that
[01:32] <javb> If boot with ubuntu live CD having Fedora installed, how can mount or see the host file system.
[01:32] <minus> Pici, the scrolling isn't that fast now.. so...
[01:32] <musashi> sudo gedit file
[01:32] <javb> The fedora mail files?
[01:32] <drew> 3 days? w00t
[01:32] <javb> does the live CD mount it automatically?
[01:32] <cosmodad> anyone else having problems encoding with grip? ripping goes well but grip won't start encoding :(
[01:32] <Pici> minus: It was more for the people talking about gutsy anyway.
[01:33] <Pici> minus: and just a general reminder.
[01:33] <minus> k
[01:33] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, my sound works once in a while when i boot
[01:33] <Comrade-Sergei> intel chip musashi ?
[01:33] <musashi> amd
[01:34] <javb> ?
[01:34] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, amd makes sound cards? must be a laptop or something right?
[01:34] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, yes
[01:35] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, i wanted the cache so i went intel core 2 duo 2.2 ghz
[01:35] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, heh i dont really do anything hardcore enough for that
[01:35] <Comrade-Sergei> lol musashi ive got 4 gb ram and a nvidia 8600 gs 512 mb video
[01:36] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, rofl /hates you
[01:36] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, in a laptop!
[01:36] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, o.O
[01:36] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, yours only supports up to 2 gb i believe
[01:36] <Kudak> Comrade-Segei: what for? i told you already u dont need that kind of hardware for porn, u could use cheaper cards
[01:37] <Esteth> Is there a way to tell ubuntu to run a script every time a readable usb storage device is plugged in?
[01:37] <Comrade-Sergei> Esteth, something in sessions maybe?
[01:37] <Chester> Hello hello
[01:38] <mariocesar_bo> How can I add a new file extension to a syntax markup on Gedit, like *.thtml to be HTML  ?
[01:38] <Chester> Is there somebody here that could help me?
[01:38] <Tixer> I'm trying to install Icecast, but I get an error saying Could Not Parse XSLT file.
[01:38] <Kudak> Chester: just ask your question, if someone knows he will respond.
[01:38] <Esteth> Comrade-Sergei: Thanks, i'll look at that :)
[01:38] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, my wireless card was hanging when i booted ubuntu, and if i restarted in either windows OS, it would be completely gone.
[01:38] <sixdraw> anyone know how to put different backgrounds on each side of the cube
[01:39] <Chester> Owke, i installed ubuntu but when i reboot it show grub but cant find unbuntu
[01:39] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, well lspci -vvv detects it
[01:39] <musashi> Comrade-Sergei, do what?
[01:39] <Comrade-Sergei> mega verbose!
[01:39] <Comrade-Sergei> musashi, lspci shows whats on the pci
[01:40] <javb> i need to chroot my original filesystem being on the live CD, any IDEA ? ? ? ?
[01:40] <cdm10> javb: what's the problem?
[01:40] <dwxreaper> i can type sudo su at the terminal and it works, if i am in gnome, and i open gedit, i can't save files because i am not root
[01:40] <dwxreaper> how do i open gedit so i can save files from gnome
[01:40] <dwxreaper> and now for my user, i can do gedit in terminal and it works
[01:40] <sixdraw> anyone know how to put different backgrounds on each side of the cube??
[01:40] <cdm10> !repeat | sixdraw
[01:40] <ubotu> sixdraw: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:40] <xtlosx> anyone anyone here with a macbook pro?
[01:40] <sub> gksudo gedit
[01:40] <dwxreaper> but for root it gives me some xlib error, what's the deal with that
[01:40] <xtlosx> come on people
[01:41] <javb> cdm10, i want to install LILO, because i cant boot, so, i booted with live CD, but how can i chroot my installed system?
[01:41] <ihope> javb: sudo chroot /whatever, I imagine.
[01:41] <Comrade-Sergei> gotta reboot brb
[01:41] <n3ow_jay> could some one tell me how you install programs in ubuntu i wantedt o add the the new xchat but can not figure out the install
[01:41] <Tixer> Anyone know why I'm getting an XSLT parsing error when I run icecast?
[01:41] <javb> ihope "/whaever" is what i DONT know.
[01:41] <musashi> dwxreaper, are you trying to edit a file as root to save it?
[01:41] <Tixer> N30w_jay: "sudo apt-get install xchat"
[01:41] <cdm10> javb: sudo chroot /media/whatever?
[01:41] <cafuego> first, bind mount /proc
[01:41] <cdm10> javb: find what your normal disk is mounted under and put it after chroot
[01:41] <dwxreaper> musashi: i'm trying to save a file, i can only save it as root, but when i do sudo su in terminal then gedit it gives me the xlib errors
[01:41] <n3ow_jay> what is the sudo?
[01:42] <nzero> !sudo
[01:42] <ihope> javb: the command mount will give a list of filesystems mounted; look for something like /dev/hda1.
[01:42] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:42] <cdm10> dwxreaper: you're supposed to use gksudo, not sudo, with gui apps.
[01:42] <javb> cdm10: Mmmm, /media i have nothing, either /mnt// how can i find what my normal disk is mounted.
[01:42] <cdm10> javb: go to Places>Computer and see what you've got
[01:42] <musashi> dwxreaper, try "sudo gedit file"
[01:42] <gnomefreak> musashi: gksudo gedit
[01:42] <musashi> or that
[01:42] <musashi> >.>
[01:43] <Chester> Installled ubuntu using live cd. I've got 3 drives in my pc. And 1 Os wich is Ubuntu. This 1 is located on dev/sdb. But when i reboot it shows GRUB but when i select ubuntu kernel. It somehow cant locate ubuntu.  I've got 3 drives in my pc. And 1 Os wich is Ubuntu. This 1 is located on dev/sdb. But when i reboot it shows GRUB but when i select ubuntu kernel. It somehow cant locate ubuntu. What am i doing wrong?
[01:46] <nzero> !gnomefreak
[01:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnomefreak - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:46] <nzero> !douche
[01:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about douche - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:46] <nzero> darn
[01:46] <gnomefreak> nzero: please dont play with the bot
[01:47] <Retr0Rob> Hello all
[01:47] <musashi> hiya
[01:47] <Kewlb> any ideas on kbuntu and the network card and why it would work out of the box in ubuntu/mandriva/centos but not in kbuntu?
[01:48] <poh> how can I reinstall an app without removing it first?
[01:48] <poh> nevermind
[01:48] <poh> I forgot to ask google
[01:49] <gnomefreak> 4/opme
[01:49] <johnny_> i removed this package so i could reinstall it, but now it doesn't take the other deps into account when reinstalling
[01:49] <El> hola algun espaol
[01:49] <cdm10> !es | El
[01:49] <ubotu> El: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:49] <IdleOne> johnny_: did it remove the deps also when you uninstalled?
[01:49] <musashi> what is this beryl everyone talks about
[01:50] <musashi> !beryl
[01:50] <musashi> :<
[01:50] <El> alguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratos
[01:50] <johnny_> it told me to use autoremove
[01:50] <El> alguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratos
[01:50] <El> alguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratos
[01:50] <cdm10> musashi: look it up on Google Video
[01:50] <cdm10> Can someone kick him or something?
[01:50] <musashi> cdm10, k lol
[01:50] <johnny_> no ayuda in espanol aqui
[01:50] <cdm10> !es > El
[01:50] <IdleOne> El: escribes /join #ubuntu-es por favor
[01:50] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:50] <Vaan> nect
[01:50] <cdm10> heh, ubotu's slow today.
[01:51] <johnny_> err en .. oops
[01:51] <youknowme> I have two systems connected with a cat-5 crossover cable, and when I try to use vncviewer to connect to the other I get:
[01:51] <youknowme> Couldn't convert 'joe-desktop' to host address
[01:51] <youknowme> Unable to connect to VNC server
[01:51] <johnny_> oh oops.. turns out autoremove actually didn't do it 's job
[01:51] <boselecta>  alguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratos
[01:51] <johnny_> even though i said yes
[01:51] <youknowme> help?
[01:51] <IdleOne> !es | boselecta
[01:51] <ubotu> boselecta: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:52] <johnny_> ok.. now , this package when reinstalled, is not regenerating an ssl cert
[01:52] <johnny_> flumotion
[01:52] <musashi> wth that is hardcore
[01:52] <n3ow_jay> is there a upgrade from 5.04 to a newer ver ?
[01:52] <boselecta> apparently that means "Because someone can help me is that I have to reboot your pc every time"
[01:52] <mrj> youknowme, do they both have ips or did you unplug one from your router, leave it set to DHCP, and expect it to magically suck an IP address through the second computer?
[01:52] <El> alguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratos
[01:52] <IdleOne> !upgrade | n3ow_jay
[01:52] <ubotu> n3ow_jay: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:52] <El> alguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratos
[01:52] <El> alguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratosalguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratosalguien me puede ayudar porque es que se me reinicia el pc a cada ratos
[01:52] <cdm10> n3ow_jay: you'll have to upgrade 4 times to get to the latest version.
[01:53] <cdm10> n3ow_jay: 3 actually.
[01:53] <IdleOne> !ops | el
[01:53] <ubotu> el: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[01:53] <johnny_> hi
[01:53] <youknowme> mrj: they are both set to dhcp, what would I change it to?
[01:53] <musashi> wow im afraid if i downloaded that i would break my pc
[01:54] <XData> And I will execute great vengeance upon them with wrathful rebukes; and they shall know that I am Jehovah, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.
[01:54] <IdleOne> musashi: if you want to know more about beryl and compiz join #ubuntu-effects or #beryl or #compiz those 3 channels can asnwer you better
[01:54] <Tm_T> LjL: wakey
[01:54] <Pici> !o4o > XData
[01:55] <musashi> IdleOne, i was just wondering the requirements, really
[01:55] <mrj> youknowme, hows the 2nd computer going to get an IP address if its only directly connected to the first?
[01:55] <youknowme> mrj, I didn't think of that, so.. how would I set it up?
[01:55] <IdleOne> musashi: again they can answer you better
[01:55] <mrj> youknowme, you'd give it a static IP
[01:55] <Retr0Rob> musashi, as far as processor or 3d capabilities?
[01:55] <MidnighToker> musashi, make sure you can use opegl on your graphics card, other than that give it a go. there are that many options, even on an old box (1gb duron, gforce4) its usuable and some of the lighter things are nice
[01:56] <youknowme> mrj, just one?
[01:56] <n3ow_jay> ok maybe an easier question  how do you add a server to x chat server list
[01:56] <mrj> youknowme, both might help if they're going to communicat back and forth
[01:56] <node357> go into the server list and hit Add
[01:56] <boselecta> n3ow_jay: through preferences
[01:56] <dwezel> Hello all.  Is there a channel to talk specifically about Gutsy?
[01:57] <Pici> dwezel: #ubuntu+1
[01:57] <dwezel> Thank you
[01:57] <musashi> Retr0Rob, both :x
[01:57] <musashi> ill jjust google it
[01:57] <IdleOne> n3ow_jay: click on Xchat and then network List then click Add Server or edit or something like that. #xchat is a good place to ask
[01:57] <trogdor> still no luck getting direct rendering going with this intel card. Its i810 driver I think and its taking half my system memory :/
[01:57] <musashi> thanks guys
[01:57] <musashi> :)
[01:57] <boselecta> IRC -> Preferences -> Networks
[01:57] <youknowme> mrj, so would it be something like
[01:57] <youknowme> <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:57] <youknowme> <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:57] <youknowme> ????
[01:57] <mrj> it'd be whatever private address under the same subnet you wanted it to be
[01:57] <boselecta> sorry that's Edit -> Preferences -> Networks
[01:57] <mrj> thats like day 1 tcpip
[01:57] <Retr0Rob> I find generally if you do a glxinfo |grep direct
[01:57] <zonyl> How can I specify runlevel on Feisty?    I changed the kernel command line in grub to have a '3' at the end, however, upstart doesnt appear to acknowledge it and still loads runlevel 2.
[01:58] <XData> What's your problem pici ? rOOb, believe in him and you will be in peace !
[01:58] <Retr0Rob> and it said direct rendering: yes
[01:58] <youknowme> mrj, sorry, I'm not sure I understand
[01:58] <mrj> <IP_ADDRESS> /24 and <IP_ADDRESS> /24 (<IP_ADDRESS>) works
[01:58] <MidnighToker> youknowme, with a subnet mask of <IP_ADDRESS> it should be 192.168.0.x (x being the machine number)
[01:58] <Retr0Rob> you are generally OK
[01:58] <johnny_> uggh
[01:58] <musashi> Retr0Rob, well thats great mine says no rofl
[01:58] <Retr0Rob> lol
[01:58] <johnny_> it's still not reinstalling files it installed when this package was first installed
[01:58] <FluxD> Hi, my external drive is not automounting. Any suggestions as to what could be wrong?
[01:58] <musashi> Retr0Rob, thanks for helping though
[01:58] <Retr0Rob> that's about my luck
[01:58] <Retr0Rob> np.
[01:59] <johnny_> i deleted them on purpose because i assumed they would automatically come back on reinstall
[01:59] <XData> God is prosperity and power !
[01:59] <johnny_> and yet.. they do not
[01:59] <johnny_> shut up Xares_
[01:59] <johnny_> err
[01:59] <boselecta> is XData some kind of JW bot?
[01:59] <musashi> i have a opengl renderer string though
[01:59] <johnny_> shut up XData ..
[01:59] <Retr0Rob> if you are using nvidia or ATI, you may want to use the restricted drivers
[01:59] <Odd-rationale> FluxD: What format is it? NTFS?
[01:59] <MidnighToker> johnny apt-get --deep <packagename> or something like that, hang on
[01:59] <musashi> i am using nvidia lol
[01:59] <Greevous> I've been having lots of problems with Compiz in gutsy; are these guaranteed to be fixed by Thursday's release?
[01:59] <FluxD> Odd-rationale: yea
[01:59] <IdleOne> !offtopic | XData
[01:59] <ubotu> XData: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter.  Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[02:00] <johnny_> everybody wants you to shut up
[02:00] <Retr0Rob> Well, Ive done a few of them and never got it working unless I have direct rendering enabled.
[02:00] <IdleOne> XData: as a matter a fact Religion is o4o in all ubuntu channels so please stop or you will be banned
[02:00] <MidnighToker> johnny apt-get build-dep <package>  -i think
[02:00] <XData> non mais genre ubotu, t'es con ou quoi ? saloperie de malade mental
[02:00] <boselecta> ok so not a bot then
[02:00] <KidMan> How do I fix the Error 15 message for grub?
[02:00] <johnny_> watch my language .. i didn't say anything bad
[02:00] <Odd-rationale> FluxD: Then you need to install ntfs-g3. Just go the Add/Remove programs and search for "ntfs"
[02:00] <boselecta> oh well.
[02:00] <nalioth> johnny_: sorry about that
[02:01] <Retr0Rob> There is  (was?) an option in beryl to use the other renderer, but I just got lockups from it.
[02:01] <LjL> johnny_: yeah i gave you the wrong kick message.
[02:01] <Odd-rationale> Or use "Synaptic"
[02:01] <FluxD> Odd-rationale: but it used to automount even if it was read only
[02:01] <johnny_> so.. build dep .. that doesn't sound like what i want?
[02:01] <flush> yo
[02:01] <flush> im having an incredible issue with alsa
[02:02] <flush> i cant get my damn freakin mixer to work properly anymore for -no apparent reason-
[02:02] <musashi> Retr0Rob, by enabled you mean i can enable it?
[02:02] <johnny_> build-dep has to do with source packages
[02:02] <johnny_>  not configure package options
[02:02] <flush> PCM in alsamixer has no effects at all anymore, when i try to use alsactl to restore the mixer settings (cause i got soundblaster live 5.1)
[02:02] <Pici> johnny_: build-dep installs the dependent packages you would need if you were compiling from source.
[02:02] <flush> it says     alsactl: set_control:995: failed to obtain info for control #7 (Operation not permitted)
[02:02] <Retr0Rob> Yes, depending on the card.
[02:02] <flush> what gives?
[02:02] <johnny_> it's not the packages i need
[02:02] <musashi> Retr0Rob, hmmm i bet ill ask how to do that next....
[02:02] <IdleOne> !enter | flush
[02:02] <ubotu> flush: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:02] <johnny_> but the configure options.. not ./configure options
[02:02] <musashi> Retr0Rob, how do you do that?
[02:03] <flush> kk
[02:03] <johnny_> the packages are installed
[02:03] <flush> but got any idea.. im damn bored of this
[02:03] <johnny_> but the options to generate things like ssl certs, and adding config files happen  is what i need
[02:03] <Retr0Rob> depends on the card.. do you know what brand?
[02:03] <IdleOne> johnny_: dpkg-reconfigure package
[02:03] <Odd-rationale> FluxD: Did you try going to System -> Preferences -> Removable Drives and Media and see if auto-mount is enabled?
[02:03] <zonyl> anyone know anything about why feisty upstart not using kernel runlevel parameter?
[02:03] <johnny_> aha IdleOne that sounds more correct
[02:03] <musashi> Retr0Rob, is there a command i can use to find that, i thought it was nvidia
[02:03] <johnny_> i rarely have to do much with apt other than install and upgrade, since i'm mainly a gentoo user, but at our store we use all ubuntu
[02:04] <IdleOne> johnny_: I am not certain what package you are talking about though
[02:04] <johnny_> flumotion
[02:04] <youknowme> midnightoker, wow I'm still having a lot of trouble.
[02:04] <Retr0Rob> yep... hold on, I used to know it off the top of my head.
[02:04] <FluxD> Odd-rationale: it was automounting fine until I installed ntfs-3g but apparently after that it would never automount so I uninstalled it and after that its always like this
[02:04] <johnny_> that didn't do it IdleOne  it just tried to restart the server
[02:04] <johnny_>  which can't run without a cert and default config files
[02:05] <MidnighToker> youknowme: whats going on? what did you do? deleted some necicary files?
[02:05] <ban-evader> HA HA HA :) j/k
[02:05] <IdleOne> so johnny_ you need a place to add the config files?
[02:05] <Odd-rationale> FluxD: ntfs-3g is considered rather buggy in fiesty. However, it has been fixed in Gusty.
[02:05] <leg1> p.snt msg 2 wrng site.wheels dodgy bros diff ole fella same e/ml not right tlk sn
[02:05] <FluxD> Odd-rationale: it was working fine for me in edgy
[02:05] <youknowm1> midnightoke, no, unplugged my router to plug in the crosover cable to try again
[02:05] <johnny_> on a fresh install, it did actions like add config files, and generate a cert,  i deleted the config files because i modified them, and then expected apt to regenerate them on install  so i could get fresh ones
[02:05] <IdleOne> johnny_: locate flumotion should tell you where the app is installed
[02:06] <johnny_> but that is not happening
[02:06] <FluxD> Odd-rationale: any other way so it can automount on plugin ?
[02:06] <youknowm1> midnightoker, I still can't figure this out
[02:06] <johnny_> i know where it is installed for sure, they just aren't there after reinstalling the package
[02:06] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, cant figure what out? i have no idea what you're doing
[02:06] <Retr0Rob> OK, your gonna love this: I found a youtube vid for it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W2GL9mpsn4
[02:06] <Retr0Rob> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W2GL9mpsn4
[02:07] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, sorry about this man, i'm in the middle of trying to get LVM working on another box. happy to help, just let me know again whats going on.
[02:07] <IdleOne> johnny_: you dont happen to have bakups do you?
[02:07] <Odd-rationale> FluxD: Not that I can think of. But I'm not a guru. So I'm very sorry I couldn't help you much. :(
[02:07] <johnny_> no.. this box was just installed lastnight
[02:07] <FluxD> Odd-rationale: np but ty for the help
[02:08] <kanjo> hi there, which POP3 server you guys recommend me to implement on Ubuntu?
[02:08] <johnny_> if i have to reinstall my entire system for 1 bad non system related package, i will be annoyed, that is a severe deficiency of apt if that is the case, and i doubt that it is so
[02:08] <Col^> Hey everyone
[02:08] <musashi> Retr0Rob, maybe ill just try to install it anyway
[02:08] <IdleOne> johnny_: sodu apt-get purge -remove flumotion & sudo apt-get install flumotion
[02:08] <johnny_> brb, please address all responses by by name
[02:08] <musashi> Retr0Rob, would it break anything >_>?
[02:09] <Flannel> johnny_: You need to remove with --purge (or 'completely remove' in synaptic) to reinstall config files.
[02:09] <Col^> Does anyone know how to get my games in wine executed with proper opengl?
[02:09] <Retr0Rob> well, if you use the restricted drivers app, it won't let you mess up.
[02:09] <Retr0Rob> if you use synaptic or automatix it could be bad.
[02:09] <musashi> Retr0Rob, i hate to ask, but could you explain ._.?
[02:09] <youknowm1> midnightoker, ok, what I mainly want to do is use vncviewer. If I connect the two computers (one running 6.10 the other 7.04) with the cat-5 crossover cable, and set both computers to dhcp. then they say they are connected. I never tried to ping one or the other (shoudl have) though. Then I get told I need to have them set with static IPs, this is where I am lost as to what to make the IPs.
[02:09] <johnny_> there we go Flannel !
[02:09] <johnny_> thank you
[02:10] <Retr0Rob> you can make a copy of your xorg.conf file
[02:10] <Flannel> Retr0Rob: Synaptic isn't bad.  Automatix is.
[02:10] <Retr0Rob> and it will save you if the install goes to heck
[02:10] <Retr0Rob> lol
[02:10] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, unless you have a dhcp server on one of the boxes, when they are conencted together there is a good chance it wont work. what are the IP addresses when they are connected to each other?
[02:10] <Retr0Rob> flannel
[02:10] <Col^> Retr0Rob, i am, however, in NFS Carbon it seems as if i run with a dx8 gfx or something... I'm missing different video options and so on.
[02:10] <musashi> darn what is the path to xorg.conf again
[02:10] <Retr0Rob> /etc/X11/
[02:11] <youknowm1> midnightoker, again, I am lost.
[02:11] <musashi> Retr0Rob, copy made, here goes nothing.
[02:11] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, you have the two computers connected together with a crossover cable. you have them both set to get IP addresses from the DHCP server -which is your router, which they are not connected to any more
[02:12] <Retr0Rob> OK, if x crashes after, rm the new xorg and cp the old one
[02:12] <musashi> Retr0Rob, actually i have to figure out how to install first :>
[02:12] <youknowm1> midnightoker, ok, I understand that now. but whats the next step?
[02:12] <musashi> Retr0Rob, brb
[02:13] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, what IP address does each computer have?
[02:13] <zonyl> col: did you setup in wineconfig?
[02:13] <MidnighToker> How do I set up SSH service on my Ubuntu box? searching for ssh and nothing in default repository?
[02:13] <gregorovius> anybody knows of a good GUI or tool to rip DVDs to x264?
[02:13] <IdleOne> !ssh | MidnighToker
[02:13] <ubotu> MidnighToker: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[02:13] <riotkittie> MidnighToker: install openssh-server  [i believe that is the pkg name]
[02:13] <MidnighToker> gregorovius, DVD::RIP
[02:13] <e-voc> good nite
[02:14] <gregorovius> MidnighToker, I think it doesn't support that format
[02:14] <youknowm1> mdnightoker, ifconfig tells me this for eth0
[02:14] <youknowm1>  inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[02:14] <musashi> Retr0Rob, if i install the newest nvidia drivers, will it mess up my other operating systems :s?
[02:14] <Retr0Rob> no
[02:14] <MidnighToker> riotkittie, thanks man. cant believe i have VNC and no ssh :)
[02:14] <Retr0Rob> only effects ubuntu
[02:14] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, and the other box?
[02:15] <youknowm1> mdnightoker, 1 sec
[02:15] <Retr0Rob> if you get a freeze shut down
[02:15] <duarte> ol
[02:15] <Seeker`> hi
[02:15] <zengen> When I run apt-get I get a ton of errors from scrollkeeper.  They're all formatting errors (no end of tag, tag mismatch...).  I found something similar on the forum: sudo scrollkeeper-rebuilddb.  Will that work for my problem?
[02:15] <musashi> Retr0Rob, i found a perfect howto, someone installing beryl on feisty with nvidia drivers lol
[02:15] <duarte> brazilians???
[02:16] <Retr0Rob> excellent.
[02:16] <Retr0Rob> btw,
[02:16] <IdleOne> !br | duarte
[02:16] <ubotu> duarte: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:16] <Retr0Rob> if you just need the wobbly windows and cube
[02:16] <duarte> ok
[02:16] <ianm_> "need wobbly windows" heh
[02:16] <musashi> Retr0Rob, i like the cube thing
[02:16] <youknowm1> mdnightoker: <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:17] <Retr0Rob> go to system-prefs-desktop effects
[02:17] <ianm_> Retr0Rob: I think that might be an oxymoron...
[02:17] <Retr0Rob> and enable.
[02:17] <Retr0Rob> lol
[02:17] <musashi> o.o
[02:17] <Col^> could i use nvidia-glx-new drivers for my 6600, with better effect than with the restricted drivers?
[02:17] <musashi> lol sec gotta activate new graphics driver
[02:17] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, they both need to be on the same network, so they both need to start with the same 192.168.1.x  -with the x being different on each box
[02:17] <cafuego> Col^: Those *are* the restricted drivers.
[02:18] <Retr0Rob> cross fingers
[02:18] <Col^> cafuego, ah ok
[02:18] <cafuego> Col^: they're the userspace part that plugs into X.
[02:18] <Col^> omg lingo i can't understand :) Userspace part?
[02:18] <youknowm1> mdnightoker, they aren't on the same network atm
[02:19] <Seeker`> Col^: IT isn't hooked directly into the kernel, so it doesn't violate the license stuff afaik
[02:19] <youknowm1> mdnightoker, do they need to be for me to figure this out
[02:19] <youknowm1> ?
[02:19] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, you told me they were connected together with a crossover cable. that is the same network. have you changed that?
[02:19] <Col^> ok Seeker`
[02:19] <MidnighToker> and please spell my name correctly, so it highlights in channel and i can see you're talking
[02:19] <davemlinux1> Is it safe to install the ubuntu-7.10-rc, and then make a apt-get dist-upgrade on the day of release?
[02:19] <Seeker`> davemlinux1: it is relatively stable now
[02:20] <Seeker`> davemlinux1: there shouldn't be (m)any changes, unless a huge bug is discovered
[02:20] <davemlinux1> By synaptic or aptitude
[02:20] <youknowm1> mdnightoker: the second computer and this computer I'm on are one in the same. I'm short one cat-5 cable to connect both computers to the router.
[02:20] <mrj> youknowm1, set the gateway to be the opposite computer, if you're on <IP_ADDRESS> and the other computers IP is <IP_ADDRESS>, set the gateway on 2.1 to 2.2
[02:21] <rodrigo_> join #cacti
[02:21] <mrj> Why are you using a crossover and not a router?
[02:21] <musashi> Retr0Rob, wooo i got direct rendering = yes now ;)
[02:21] <RB2> I just installed 7.10 RC yesterday and it's been 100% stable for me.
[02:21] <Retr0Rob> awesome!
[02:21] <Retr0Rob> good work
[02:21] <davemlinux1> How do i have to configure my sources?
[02:21] <mrj> This channel has too many q/p/j messages it makes me want to stab myself
[02:21] <musashi> hmmm warning...
[02:21] <Seeker`> mrj: you can probably turn them off in your client
[02:21] <mrj> Seeker`, then I'd not see them globally, though
[02:21] <duarte> hi
[02:22] <Retr0Rob> whats the warning?
[02:22] <youknowm1> mrj, I have to many port forwarding problems with my router. I got sick of it.
[02:22] <Seeker`> mrj: thats a choice you have to wmake
[02:22] <davemlinux1> What do i need to change when becomes stable
[02:22] <RB2> Quick Question... in the terminal window, how do I send a function Key? (using ssh in the terminal window)
[02:22] <musashi> rofl so what is beryl for then?
[02:22] <mrj> Seeker`, no way, really?
[02:22] <duarte> kiba-dock for ubuntu 7.0
[02:22] <musashi> it said warning this is experimental
[02:22] <duarte> 7.10
[02:22] <musashi> or w/e
[02:22] <duarte> do you know?
[02:22] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, i dont understand how you have them connected together  -and please spell my name correctly, pm me or give up.
[02:23] <davemlinux1> In etc/apt/sources.list ?
[02:23] <Retr0Rob> well, It gives you the pretty windows,
[02:23] <Seeker`> duarte: what do you want to know about 7.10?
[02:23] <Retr0Rob> whoo hoo!
[02:23] <duarte> repostory
[02:23] <duarte> sources.list
[02:23] <musashi> Retr0Rob, so what else does beryl do that makes it worth downloading? the 3d backround thing while rotating cube?
[02:23] <Wolf23> some body help please!! An error occured The playback of this movie requires a video/x-avi-unknown decoder plugin which is not installed.
[02:24] <musashi> Retr0Rob,  and uh how to i move the cube >_>
[02:24] <LjL> !codecs > Wolf23    (Wolf23, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:24] <mrj> musashi, it's a complete change of how actions/windows are handled
[02:24] <mrj> Wobbly windows, other various effects
[02:24] <musashi> ah
[02:24] <mrj> You either want it or you dont
[02:24] <mrj> We can't tell you to get it or not
[02:24] <abatshy> hi every 1
[02:24] <Retr0Rob> well, it has some nice window management stuff, but honestly the Compiz install that's built in to 7.04 is fine for me.
[02:24] <_ebirtaid> what would be a possible explanation for the fact that under pclinuxos I can detect and connect to wireless networks with ndiswrapper and a windows driver but under ubuntu, using the same driver, I can not detect any networks even though the driver is working?
[02:24] <Retr0Rob> It gives the wobblies, the cube and transparancy
[02:25] <caravena> Hello, problem with mi lapto. I upgrade to feisty to Gutsy, and not work fine the keyboard.
[02:25] <caravena>  Howto detect the package with problem?
[02:25] <caravena> * of
[02:25] <mrj> Wobbles + panel wall is great
[02:25] <Davy_Jones> what does the evms process do?  it says enterprise volume management system.. what does that mean and is this process necessary?
[02:25] <mrj> But I'm also on a heavy duty system
[02:25] <Faltzer> I need help with package management, allot of things corrupt after I upgrade using the upgrade manager.
[02:25] <youknowm1> midnightoker, two computers, I'm short one cable so they both can't be connected to the router at the same time for I need a third cable to connect the router to the modem. I CAN connect them with the crossover cable but they are not at the moment, I would need to disconnect myself from the net.
[02:25] <boselecta> caravena: ask in #ubuntu+1
[02:25] <Retr0Rob> BTW, 7.10 has copiz fusion enabled by default. supposed to be really pretty.
[02:26] <caravena> boselecta: Ok, thanks.
[02:26] <Retr0Rob> mrj are you on 7.10?
[02:26] <mrj> yup
[02:26] <disposition> anyone here a math/chemistry major that knows how to make trendline equations in gnumeric
[02:26] <mrj> I'm in XP right now, though
[02:26] <Davy_Jones> why is it not right to say 7.1?
[02:26] <musashi> Retr0Rob, so i can do the cool cube thing or is that only beryl where u move it around and stuff
[02:26] <Retr0Rob> is it stabile?
[02:26] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, ok, so if you disconnect the internet, and have both computers connected into the router (in the LAN ports) can the two computers ping each other?
[02:26] <Seeker`> youknowm1: So you have 2 patch cables and 1 crossover?
[02:26] <riotkittie> _ebirtaid: did you grab ndiswrapper from the repos? i've heard some people have better luck compiling from source
[02:26] <riotkittie> Davy_Jones: because 1 = january.
[02:26] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, is the modem/router connected with a crossover cable or patch?
[02:26] <Seeker`> Davy_Jones: it is 7.10 because it will be released in the 10th month of 2007
[02:26] <joshe> hola
[02:26] <Faltzer> Anybody?
[02:26] <disposition> this is really urgent. i'm working on a lab report due for tomorrow and gnumeric is NOT graphing a remotely correct trendline
[02:26] <Faltzer> =/
[02:27] <_ebirtaid> I've not tried compiling from source, it could be worth a try
[02:27] <mrj> Retr0Rob, It's stable, I have issues here and there but I can fix them. I wouldn't use it as a production OS due to the constant updates coming out
[02:27] <riotkittie> Davy_Jones: x.x is year.month
[02:27] <Davy_Jones> ok
[02:27] <Retr0Rob> musashi, yep you can move the cube thing. I show it to my Vista buddies.  Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[02:29] <mrj> kline
[02:29] <_ebirtaid> moron
[02:29] <abatshy> hey every girl i have cam and iam so hot if any girl wanna to see mu dick and make her cunt wet pm me plz bye
[02:29] <Retr0Rob> I have had to log out and in again after enabling the cube.
[02:29] <Davy_Jones> hehehhehe
[02:30] <jeffreyf> Linksys Broadcom driver?
[02:30] <Odd-rationale> disposition: Try OpenOffice Calc
[02:30] <MidnighToker> youknowm1, ok, so assuming they are both connected to the router, they should both have an IP address that starts with the same first three sections the same (xxx.xxx.xxx.different) -and they should be able to ping each other
[02:30] <Retr0Rob> the windows wobble right?
[02:30] <musashi> ah ok
[02:30] <cafuego> Oh!
[02:30] <disposition> it doesn't enter trendline equations
[02:30] <LjL> what the chanserv
[02:30] <urbanhg> do any of you fine folks know how to get an ipod to work with rhythmbox
[02:30] <mrj> well, at least the girl booted him out, so that wasn't completely in vain for him
[02:30] <youknowm1> seeker, no, I will right now
[02:30] <smultron> urbanhg: do you have the plugin enabled in rhythmbox?
[02:30] <urbanhg> yeah
[02:30] <youknowm1> midnightoker, yes, I'll try that right now, brb
[02:31] <urbanhg> somehow i deleted all of my music from the pod...
[02:31] <Seeker`> youknowm1: make the crossover connection between one of the computers and the router
[02:31] <wilberfan> Windows and Ubuntu don't set the system clock the same way, do they?
[02:31] <urbanhg> and when i try to add more music i get an error sayind device full
[02:31] <duarte> brazilian
[02:31] <bad_cables> i forgot my password for my user and root
[02:31] <magic_ninja> does anyone know the mozilla gecko package name
[02:31] <bad_cables> but i am logged in now
[02:31] <MidnighToker> Seeker`, i dont think there is a crossover cable in play, just confusion
[02:31] <wilberfan> If I change the system time in Windows, the next time I boot into Ubuntu it says the partitions were mounted in the future...
[02:31] <eboyjr> How do I find out the path of the Ubuntu Desktop Wallpaper? and... when is Ubuntu Gutsy or Gusty coming?
[02:31] <smultron> urbanhg: hm. sorry. i'm not sure
[02:31] <wilberfan> Is there any way to get them to play nice?
[02:32] <bad_cables> anyone know how to get your own passwd?
[02:32] <Seeker`> MidnighToker: I got the impression that there were 2 patch and 1 xover, and he just didn't know waht to do
[02:32] <Davy_Jones> eboyjr: go to ubuntu.com to find out when gutsy will be out
[02:32] <urbanhg> haha and this time i just tried it and rbox... just simply closed on me lol
[02:32] <Tm_T> cafuego: did you?
[02:32] <Faltzer> Can I please get help on the Ubuntu Package Manager?
[02:32] <Odd-rationale> eboyjr: /usr/share/backgrounds
[02:32] <MidnighToker> wilberfan, thats cos windows sets the computers local time into the bios, you need to tell ubuntu your system clock is actually local not GMT
[02:32] <bad_cables> please tell me before the power goes out
[02:32] <Faltzer> I'm using Feisty Fawn, 7.04
[02:32] <RB2> bad_cables: open a terminal window and type: passwd
[02:32] <Wolf23> LjL: thanx but i have installed all packages, the onlyone that is to open that file that i have paste here
[02:32] <MidnighToker> not sure how to set on ubuntu
[02:32] <eboyjr> Odd-rationale, awesome, thanks
[02:32] <wilberfan> MidnighToker, oh, cool...  do you remember how to do that??
[02:32] <cafuego> Tm_T: sry, typing with one hnd
[02:32] <bad_cables> yeah passwd... you know what it is>
[02:32] <bad_cables> ?
[02:32] <KidMan> What does "Error in Service Module" mean? How can I fix it?
[02:32] <MidnighToker> Seeker`, possibly... let him see what happens
[02:32] <Davy_Jones> Faltzer: would be better to ask the question than ask if anyone knows
[02:33] <RB2> bad_cables: It allows you to reset the password
[02:33] <MidnighToker> wilberfan, i have no idea on ubuntu, i come from a gentoo background, hang on and i'll look
[02:33] <Tm_T> cafuego: there's no laws for handsfree?
[02:33] <wilberfan> MidnighToker, I have the "Use UTC" box UN-checked...
[02:33] <bad_cables> RB2: only if you know your oldone
[02:33] <mrj> Seeker`, you do realize "patch" is the wrong terminology right?
[02:33] <Retr0Rob> hey, got a cure for the "No Cube"
[02:33] <mrj> Patch has nothing to do with a cables pin-outs
[02:33] <Flannel> bad_cables: You can't get your own password, you can just re-set it to somethign known.
[02:33] <eboyjr> Davy_Jones, Thanks, 3 days to go
[02:33] <Retr0Rob> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=429231
[02:33] <wilberfan> MidnighToker, "Clock preferences"
[02:33] <MidnighToker> mrj: Seeker` "straight through..." or X-over
[02:33] <Davy_Jones> eboyjr: np
[02:33] <Seeker`> mrj: I've always heard them referred to as crossover or patch
[02:34] <bad_cables> Flannel, how do you reset it...
[02:34] <Flannel> bad_cables: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[02:34] <mrj> Seeker`, crossover, straight through, or rolled
[02:34] <mrj> roll/over
[02:34] <mrj> patch has nothing to do with pin outs
[02:34] <disposition> wow
[02:34] <Seeker`> ok
[02:34] <disposition> when it comes to spreadsheets
[02:34] <mrj> patch = short cable
[02:34] <disposition> linux loses the battle :P
[02:34] <mrj> just so we dont confuse each other
[02:34] <KidMan> What does "Error in Service Module" mean? How can I fix it?
[02:35] <Retr0Rob> musashi, check out this on the forum
[02:35] <musashi> Retr0Rob, im just gonna get beryl
[02:35] <Retr0Rob> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=429231
[02:35] <RB2> Anyone know how I send a function key to the terminal window without Gnome intercepting it?
[02:35] <Retr0Rob> nothing bad about Beryl, it's good stuff!
[02:36] <youknowme> seeker, did not work, crossover can't act as a patch in this case
[02:36] <Faltzer> Can I please get help on the Ubuntu Package Manager?
[02:36] <youknowme> midnightoker: IPs are the same as before when both connected to the samerouter
[02:36] <musashi> Retr0Rob, yea that doesnt work
[02:37] <musashi> Retr0Rob, ill try the walkthrough, and thanks again
[02:37] <unagi_> someone say my name really quick i need to test something
[02:37] <Faltzer> unagi_
[02:37] <youknowme> unagi_
[02:37] <unagi_> thank you
[02:37] <Retr0Rob> no problem, you got the hard part handled.
[02:37] <bad_cables> ok thanks
[02:37] <Faltzer> Can I please get help on the Ubuntu Package Manager, please? I've already reformatted 3 times, and still no success.
[02:38] <Seeker`> Faltzer: What problem are you having?
[02:38] <RB2>  Faltzer: What are the symptoms?
[02:38] <mrj> youknowme, Did you set the gateways like I said?
[02:39] <Faltzer> Seeker` it seems as if my OS Is corrupt somehow.
[02:39] <musashi> Retr0Rob, got it to work w/o beryl
[02:39] <Seeker`> Faltzer: Any error messages etc?
[02:39] <Retr0Rob> excellent!
[02:39] <youknowme> mrj, haven't got that far. still testing IPs and such because apparently they matter greatly
[02:39] <Seeker`> Faltzer: We need a better description of what is wrong to actually work out what the problem is
[02:39] <youknowme> mrj, hold on I'll try again
[02:39] <dezelin> how do i speed up deluge torrent client?
[02:39] <Retr0Rob> yeah, I just fixed mine lol, I set mine to 1 desktop
[02:39] <mrj> youknowme, uh.. yeah, they're rather important to the tcp/ip stack. You need to set the gateway to be the opposite computers
[02:40] <Faltzer>  Seeker`: It's hard to explain, but when I open synaptic it closes automatically.
[02:40] <Gorthax> Hello friends
[02:40] <Faltzer>  Seeker`: And so does add/remove applications
[02:40] <musashi> Retr0Rob, can u make all 6 sides a desktop, or no? just 4?
[02:40] <Seeker`> Faltzer: what about if you start them from the command line?
[02:40] <Faltzer>  Seeker`: It's like the system is preventing me from doing something to anything having to do with program management
[02:40] <Gorthax> ive been trying to find a resolution to my problem to no avail.  I want to modify my System Panels, including changing the font color.  Could someone point me in the direction....?
[02:40] <Odd-rationale> musashi: I can have up to 32 :)
[02:40] <Retr0Rob> hmm. Ive only done 4. 6 would be cool
[02:40] <vvd> hehe
[02:41] <musashi> Odd-rationale, rofl 32 sided polygon
[02:41] <Faltzer>  Seeker` I start synaptic via CMD but still closes.
[02:41] <Faltzer> Now
[02:41] <Faltzer>  Seeker` if I run apt-get install -f I get a small message
[02:41] <Gorthax> <Gnome 2.18
[02:41] <emmajane> Gorthax, have you tried the "font preferences" under "system"?
[02:41] <edubuntu> apt-get massage!
[02:41] <Seeker`> Faltzer: do you get an error message if you start synaptic from the command line?
[02:41] <emmajane> gorthax: there's a "details" button which appears to contain color options
[02:41] <youknowme> mrj, <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> with the mask set to <IP_ADDRESS> and the gateway set to 1.2 and 2.1?
[02:42] <Faltzer>  Seeker`: No... It opens but closes it.
[02:42] <Seeker`> Faltzer: no terminal output at all?
[02:42] <Seeker`> Faltzer: And what is the message you get iwht apt-get install -f?
[02:42] <youknowme> mrj, gateway set to 2.2 and 2.1.
[02:42] <musashi> Retr0Rob,  yea i like this im going to get beryl
[02:42] <mrj> youknowme, yes the gateway is the OTHEr computer
[02:42] <Faltzer>  Seeker`:  The message for apt-get install -f is 'Segmentation Fault (core dumped)'
[02:43] <edubuntu> Does beryl eat rescources
[02:43] <youknowme> mrj, ok brb
[02:43] <Seeker`> Faltzer: you say this has happened 3 times?
[02:43] <Retr0Rob> It is nice. btw, looks like I just have 6 sides, no top or bottom.
[02:43] <Faltzer> Seeker`: Yes, and this only happens after running the update manager
[02:43] <musashi> Retr0Rob, i have 4 desktops and the top says ubuntu, bottom is blank
[02:43] <Odd-rationale> musashi: I'm using compiz-fusion on Gusty. I don't know how desktops you can have in beryl
[02:43] <Seeker`> Faltzer: which version of ubuntu?
[02:43] <emmajane> Gorthax: or perhaps in system -> theme
[02:43] <musashi> Odd-rationale, ah ok
[02:44] <Faltzer> Seeker`: Feisty Fawn
[02:44] <jeffreyf> Feisty Fawn: Driver for Linksys Wireless
[02:44] <jeffreyf> ?
[02:44] <musashi> man wobbly windows hurts my eyes
[02:44] <musashi> and i already have a headace ><
[02:44] <musashi> had*
[02:44] <joshe> Muy buenas alguien quehables espaol para hacerle una pregunta?
[02:45] <riotkittie> !es | joshe
[02:45] <ubotu> joshe: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:46] <alpine> i cannot get skype to launch upon startup. i added it to the startup menu through Sessions with the command line "skype." it still does not launch upon startup. is that the right command line?
[02:46] <Faltzer> Seeker`: In addition, my Ubuntu freezes often. It forces me to restart via without the normal process often.
[02:46] <Faltzer> Seeker`: I have like 384 MB RAM
[02:47] <Seeker`> Faltzer: can I see your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[02:47] <Seeker`> Faltzer: You should pastebin it
[02:47] <Seeker`> !pastebin
[02:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:47] <diafic_> sleep now. night.
[02:48] <alpine> any help with the startup menu please?
[02:48] <Seeker`> Faltzer: also, try "sudo aptitude update"
[02:48] <Gorthax> what kind of help alpine?
[02:48] <youknowme> j
[02:49] <Gorthax> oh, just read up
[02:49] <Faltzer> Seeker`: What does the command you specified do?
[02:49] <Seeker`> Faltzer: its an alternative to apt-get update
[02:49] <alpine> i thought it launches skype.
[02:49] <alpine> i didn't know what to put under command line
[02:49] <Faltzer> Seeker`: I tried it, but I'll paste bin both the output for aptitude and the file you indicated.
[02:50] <youknowme> mrj, ok, the computers can ping each other when connected with the crossover cable but when I try to use vnc I get
[02:50] <youknowme> Couldn't convert 'joe-desktop' to host address
[02:50] <youknowme> Unable to connect to VNC server
[02:50] <alpine> Gorthax: I am trying to get skype to launch upon startup.
[02:51] <Faltzer> Seeker`:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40759/  That's the /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:51] <mneptok> Faltzer: and please use apt-get instead of aptitude
[02:51] <vbabiy-Laptop> what is the motu room
[02:51] <vbabiy-Laptop> !motu
[02:51] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[02:51] <Faltzer> mneptok: Why, though? SOrry for being too curious.
[02:51] <mneptok> Faltzer: it is getting more attention and feature improvements vis-a-vis dist-upgrades tahn is aptitude
[02:52] <Faltzer> Seeker`: And this is the aptitude output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40761/
[02:52] <Seeker`> mneptok: I read in a bug report that doing aptitude update solved a similar problem
[02:52] <alpine> is there some kind of protocol for how questions are asked and answered? do i have to wait in line?
[02:52] <mrj> youknowme, joe-desktop = an ip address right, and you just changed it to joe-desktop to clean it up or something?
[02:52] <Faltzer> mneptok: Okay, will apt-get be deprecated in the future?
[02:52] <mneptok> Faltzer: you cannot launch synaptic with sudo
[02:53] <Seeker`> Faltzer: now try running synaptic
[02:53] <Retr0Rob> Retr0rob
[02:53] <jeffreyf> Where can I find a driver for Linksys Wireless (I think it is Broadcom)
[02:53] <mrj> alpine, no, because us volunteers cant answer every single question, so ask it and we'll try
[02:53] <mrj> youknowme, you need to enter the ip, not "joes-desktop" if thats what you're doing
[02:53] <alpine> I am trying to get skype to launch upon startup.
[02:54] <Faltzer> mneptok: Neither can I launch it without.
[02:54] <Faltzer> Seeker`: Still not working.
[02:54] <alpine> I added it to the startup list under Sessions
[02:54] <Seeker`> Faltzer: use gksudo to launch it from the command line
[02:54] <mneptok> Faltzer: any GUI app needs to be invoked with gksudo, not sudo
[02:54] <Seeker`> Faltzer: sorry, i dont know what could be causing it - I need to leave now as I have to be up in 7 hours
[02:55] <Faltzer> Seeker`: Still doesn't work. Okay..
[02:55] <Seeker`> Faltzer: good luck
[02:55] <Faltzer> mneptok: It used to work with sudo though.
[02:55] <Retr0Rob_> Retr0Rob
[02:56] <Marsly1> Excuse me, but what is "Ubuntu Gutsy"?
[02:56] <Retr0Rob_> Ubuntu 7.10
[02:56] <mneptok> Faltzer: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:56] <noway-> Marsly1, its the next version of Ubuntu
[02:57] <amr> hello , how to mute my laptop speakers on pluging in my headphone
[02:57] <Retr0Rob_> amr, what kind of computer?
[02:57] <Marsly1> So, Gutsy and Gutsy Gibbon are the same?
[02:57] <LjL> yes
[02:58] <Retr0Rob_> Some compaq laptops will not turn off.
[02:58] <Faltzer> mneptok: *sigh* I think this is once again an OS related problem.
[02:58] <Faltzer> It returns a Segmentation Fault (core dumped)
[02:58] <Odd-rationale> Marsly1: Yes
[02:58] <iownyou> hey can anybody help me with picking a linux distro?
[02:58] <magic_ninja> does anyone have experience running steam
[02:59] <amr> Retr0Rob_ : intel hda on fujistu seimens aMILO 1505
[02:59] <Exilio> hi
[02:59] <Exilio> wath is grub error 17
[02:59] <Retr0Rob_> OK, it may have the same, but try this....
[02:59] <Marsly1> If anyone would be able to take the time to read this first forum post, and explain to me if the commands can only work in "Gutsty"... I would apreciate it --- Link --- http://luxrender.org/forum/frameset.html
[02:59] <Retr0Rob_> double click on the volume icon
[03:00] <Retr0Rob_> find the switches tab and click on it
[03:00] <MidnighToker> during setup i set 800x600 as max resolution. i've just upgraded the monitor and it wont let me change it to anything higher. help please.
[03:00] <iStiKs> Marsly1: thats an invalid link
[03:00] <Odd-rationale> iownyou: I would go with Ubuntu! But were are some quizes which might help you get started with your own choice: http://polishlinux.org/choose/quiz/  http://www.tuxs.org/chooser/
[03:00] <musashi> oook that was odd
[03:01] <Gorthax> midnight, google for it.  There is a specific answer on the Ubuntu forums
[03:01] <Marsly1> iStiKs: oooh, 1 sec
[03:01] <MidnighToker> Gorthax, ta
[03:01] <Gorthax> you need to run the xorg configuration
[03:01] <Marsly1> *Sorry* For huge post :( --- First: This is just really, really great news!!!
[03:01] <Marsly1> I just compiled Lux and here is what I had to do:
[03:01] <Marsly1> Compiling Lux in Ubuntu Gutsy:
[03:01] <Marsly1> sudo apt-get install cvs
[03:01] <Marsly1> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:01] <Marsly1> sudo apt-get install bison
[03:01] <Marsly1> sudo apt-get install flex
[03:01] <Marsly1> sudo apt-get install libboost-dev
[03:01] <Marsly1> sudo apt-get install libfltk1.1-dev
[03:01] <Marsly1> sudo apt-get install libboost-thread-dev
[03:01] <Marsly1> sudo apt-get install libboost-date-time-dev
[03:01] <Marsly1> And then just follow this:
[03:01] <Marsly1> http://www.luxrender.org/index.php?opti ... &Itemid=70
[03:01] <Marsly1> Hope this is useful for others.
[03:01] <cappicard> whoa...
[03:02] <mrj> dude, pastebin
[03:02] <Marsly1> *wince* sorry...
[03:02] <musashi> Retr0Rob, i executed beryl manager and the scren did something but it still has the command running in terminal
[03:04] <NemesisD> what would cause an ethernet device to just stop being able to connect to the internet. I am possibly looking in the wrong place but the best clue I have is dmesg saying link is not ready
[03:04] <Gorthax> Midnight, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[03:04] <Retr0Rob_> last time i used beryl I had to choose an xgl session from the login screen
[03:04] <Gorthax> or, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=269052
[03:05] <ae88925> NemesisD: do you have a link light?
[03:05] <Retr0Rob_> Last time I had Beryl was in 6.10
[03:06] <NemesisD> ae88925, i can check, this is somebody else's computer so I'm kind of doing support over the phone
[03:06] <NemesisD> ae88925, anything else i should look for? i tailed /var/log/syslog but the person claimed there was nothing of interest
[03:06] <NemesisD> im about to call them right now
[03:07] <ae88925> plug, and unplug the ethernet a few times.  dmesg|grep eth0 <-- assuming "eth0" is correct should show link up, link down.
[03:07] <bitwiseshiftleft> anyone know a good way to get power consumption down on Ubuntu?
[03:07] <NemesisD> ae88925, i believe it's pci, how would i do that safely?
[03:07] <ae88925> If it's a cable modem, router, or DSL router, reset the box.
[03:08] <ae88925> Just unplug the ethernet cable, don't remove the card
[03:08] <NemesisD> oh ok
[03:08] <mneptok> Faltzer: at what point does it segfault?
[03:08] <NemesisD> ae88925, should i need to do ifup/ifdown?
[03:08] <ae88925> possibly, yes.  But verify link first.
[03:08] <mneptok> bitwiseshiftleft: which version?
[03:09] <NemesisD> ok, ill call now
[03:09] <bitwiseshiftleft> mneptok: gutsy
[03:09] <bitwiseshiftleft> mneptok: but it shouldn't matter that much, should it?
[03:09] <mneptok> bitwiseshiftleft: then you already have the new tickless kernel
[03:09] <mneptok> bitwiseshiftleft: and yes, it does.
[03:10] <bitwiseshiftleft> mneptok: actually, i'm on 64-bit, but i have a tickless kernel anyway... i upgraded to 2.6.23-mm1
[03:10] <bitwiseshiftleft> mneptok: but that only shaves like half a watt
[03:10] <zengen> I'm trying to compile easytag with mp4 support, but it keeps asking for libmp4v2.  I have libmp4v2 and libmp4v2-dev installed.  Is it referring to some other package I need?
[03:11] <markelhas> can some one help me to config dwl-650M rev 2?
[03:11] <mneptok> bitwiseshiftleft: try breaking the srceen off ;)
[03:11] <mneptok> *screen
[03:12] <bitwiseshiftleft> mneptok: this advice is given AS IS, with no warrantee for blah blah
[03:12] <markelhas> i've isntalled the ndis and load the windows driver but onli link led is active and can't list the pci card
[03:12] <mneptok> bitwiseshiftleft: thanks for considering that "advice." very generous of you. :)
[03:12] <jeffreyf> Anyone know of LInksys Wireless Drivers?
[03:12] <bitwiseshiftleft> mneptok: but basically i'm annoyed that windows has 30% lower power consumption than linux
[03:13] <ae88925> zengen, run ./configure --help.  Try to see if it requires a --with-libmp4v2 argument.  Maybe it's looking somewhere for the lib other than where Ubuntu puts it by default.
[03:13] <mneptok> bitwiseshiftleft: got any daemon processes that aren't 100 % necessary? keep them from waking the kernel.
[03:14] <markelhas> any wireless expert aroun?
[03:14] <Faltzer> <_<
[03:14] <mneptok> markelhas: i am, but you won't like my answer.
[03:14] <Faltzer> Here comes another OS Re-imaging
[03:14] <ae88925> disclaimer: I have no knowledge of easytag or libmp4v2, but have had to specify --with-XXX in the past
[03:14] <Faltzer> For the 4th time
[03:14] <markelhas> mneptok, why?
[03:15] <MidnighToker> for a geforce4 do i want to use the NV or nvidia driver? -wanting 3D support
[03:15] <mneptok> markelhas: because i'll tell you to buy supported hardware from companies that care about users.
[03:15] <bitwiseshiftleft> mneptok: not really?  i mean, i turned off trackerd.  i tried turning off compiz, but that didn't help much
[03:15] <mneptok> MidnighToker: nvidia
[03:15] <bitwiseshiftleft> and compiz is shiny
[03:15] <markelhas> mneptok, yestarday i've managed to put the card working but after a reboot the card don't work any more
[03:15] <zengen> ae88925:  ./configure says it's enabled by default.  I found 2 libmp4v2 files in /usr/lib and tried setting the path in ./configure, but it still doesn't work.  If that was even the correct way to try to fix it...
[03:15] <MidnighToker> mneptok, thanks
[03:15] <markelhas> mneptok, ok :(
[03:15] <Sitherae> Where can I find G++ after I have installed it?
[03:16] <mneptok> markelhas: Cardbus?
[03:16] <moppit> MidnighToker: Double Check, with the Geforce4 you may want the nvidia-glx-legacy drivers
[03:16] <markelhas> mneptok, pci wirelles
[03:16] <mneptok> markelhas: standby
[03:16] <Shpook> Hello everyone
[03:16] <cafuego> zengen: the default libmp4v2 in feisty is broken
[03:16] <ae88925> zengen:  is ld reporting the error?
[03:16] <tt_> A friend who gives me a shell on his machine recently upgraded to 7.10 and I found VIM was built w/o a default compile-time option I depend on somewhat.  Any idea what's up with that?
[03:16] <endra> hey, when do I select "guided - use entire disk and set up LVM" in the partition area?
[03:16] <zengen> ae88925:  This is gutsy.  Should I be in +1?
[03:17] <mneptok> markelhas: you in the US?
[03:17] <Sitherae> How can I execute GNU G++?
[03:17] <Shpook> Anyone else have freezing issues with Gutsy, that only seem to happen in Firefox while using the scroll wheel?
[03:17] <zengen> err, caguego
[03:17] <cafuego> zengen: Well... maybe :-)
[03:17] <zengen> Okay, thanks.
[03:17] <cafuego> zengen: is the souce package for it still faad?
[03:17] <mneptok> Shpook: #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy questions
[03:17] <markelhas> mneptok, just for remark i've test so many thing yestardy that i don't really now want revolve the problem. however i remember that i've used ndis and mad wifi.
[03:17] <MidnighToker> moppit thanks
[03:17] <Shpook> ooh, okay, thx
[03:17] <zengen> cafuego: I don't know what that means.
[03:17] <endra> As opposed to not using LVM.. It is an old 6.5GB hdd, 128MB ram 530mhz i586 trying to install XUBUNTU. Question is should I select Guided - use entire disk or use entire disk and set up LVM?
[03:18] <mneptok> markelhas: what brand and model of card?
[03:18] <tdo__> ol
[03:18] <tdo__> algum ai
[03:18] <Sitherae> How do I execute the GNU C++ Compiler?
[03:18] <tdo__> ?
[03:18] <mneptok> !es > tdo__
[03:18] <cafuego> endra: On that setup I wouldn't bother with lvm.
[03:18] <ae88925> Sitherae: assuming it's intalled, run 'g++'
[03:18] <Flannel> eton: If you've only got one HDD, you wont get much out of LVM
[03:18] <endra> cafuego: okay, thanks
[03:18] <gerro> MasterShrek: fixed my comp up, turns out there was a bios fast boot option for win95 blocking most the system information. Also the extra memory wasnt plugged in right. Still no direct rendering but working on that ^^
[03:18] <mneptok> markelhas: hello?
[03:19] <markelhas> mneptok, D-link DWL-G650M rev 3.00, and yesterday it reconize has atheros i think.
[03:19] <endra> cafuego: the reason I ask is because grub was failing to install, not sure if it has to do with it or not.
[03:19] <Sitherae> ae88925: What is the shortcut to bring up the run thing?
[03:19] <cafuego> endra: Nah, shouldn't anyway.
[03:19] <mneptok> markelhas: that uses a chipset that is as yet unsupported by MadWiFi
[03:20] <mneptok> markelhas: you in the US?
[03:20] <gerro> endra: grub 17?
[03:20] <ae88925> Sitherae: Ouch, start reading about Eclipse or gnome-terminal
[03:20] <endra> gerro: no, it just wouldn't install
[03:20] <endra> gerro: fails to copy into MBR
[03:20] <markelhas> mneptok, nop
[03:20] <Sitherae> ae88925: I mean like.. there is a shortcut to bring it up..
[03:20] <gerro> endra: odd.. check the pins on your hard drive to see which mode its in perhaps it has protection on the mbr
[03:20] <ae88925> GNU C++ is just a command-line compiler, not an IDE
[03:20] <mneptok> markelhas: http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility
[03:20] <markelhas> mneptok, so i guess it was the ndis that solve my problem. but now i try the drive and doesn't work
[03:20] <endra> gerro: it is in a laptop
[03:21] <endra> gerro: not my laptop at that, so I don't want to open it.
[03:21] <gerro> endra: hey it could happen...
[03:21] <tdo__> eeeiiiii
[03:21] <Sitherae> ae88925: I tried executing it.. Says no input..
[03:21] <Flannel> Sitherae: alt-f2
[03:21] <tdo__> algum fala portugus?
[03:21] <Flannel> !pt | tdo__
[03:21] <ubotu> tdo__: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[03:21] <Sitherae> Flannel: Ty
[03:21] <tdo__> Alguien hablas espanol?
[03:21] <gerro> endra: you have a computer you have never opened!? wow thats like saving a christmas present until july
[03:21] <markelhas> mneptok, is any form to recover that good config?
[03:22] <Pici> tdo__: por favor escribe /j #ubuntu-es
[03:22] <endra> gerro: I have a laptop that I'm fixing for a friend that I have never opened
[03:22] <Sitherae> Hey. Im trying to burn the Unbuntu iso to a DVD. What is the best software to do so?
[03:22] <ae88925> Sitherae: You will need to do one of two things:  1. Use a regular text editor to create your sources and open a terminal to compile   OR   2. Find an IDE (like Eclipse)
[03:22] <gerro> endra: cant fix it without opening it :P
[03:22] <Sitherae> ae88925: ty
[03:22] <ae88925> start with man g++
[03:22] <Flannel> !burn | Sitherae
[03:22] <ubotu> Sitherae: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[03:23] <mneptok> markelhas: i do not use, support, nor recommend ndiswrapper. sorry.
[03:23] <Sitherae> ty
[03:23] <markelhas> mneptok, hummm dammmm
[03:23] <gerro> endra: so what is the story behind this laptop? what you trying to setup?
[03:23] <kuja_> How do I install fonts without using ~/.fonts, instead I want to install fonts the way ttf-* packages do.
[03:24] <endra> gerro: not windows :P
[03:24] <underwatercow> Firestarter uses iptables, doesn't it?
[03:24] <Pici> underwatercow: yes.
[03:24] <gerro> endra: what are its specs?
[03:24] <endra> gerro: it is a very old laptop, 530mhz AMD K6 128MB ram 6.5GB hdd i586
[03:24] <endra> gerro: My game boy screen is bigger than its monitor
[03:24] <endra> gerro: and I can't take a piss without it's battery running out
[03:24] <gerro> endra: ah might want to use blackbox then, Im fixing up a comp for my cousin its 500mhz with 128mb ram
[03:24] <endra> gerro: and I'm trying to install XUBUNTU on it
[03:25] <endra> blackbox?
[03:25] <gerro> endra: yeah it has a panel and you right click to choose programs to run. none of that desktop flash stuff
[03:25] <markelhas> mneptok, i've also used a asus wl-107g and this one connect right but when i try to transfer files over home network it takes 2x of my 11mb/s card :(. And the dlink solve that problem. but now i cant put it to work.
[03:25] <Flannel> endra: either way, you're best off getting the alternate CD to install from, if you don't aleady have it
[03:25] <mneptok> endra: no full desktop environment (GNOME, KDE, or XFCE) will be very fun on that hardware
[03:25] <gerro> endra: I use all of xubuntu xfce apps like taskmanager and thunar. Runs super fast ^^
[03:26] <marko-ubuntu> hmm is firestarter safe today, last time i used it it blocket all my traffic after some ours
[03:26] <bruenig> gerro, task manager?
[03:26] <bqmassey> anyone know any open-source, linux fitness/diet applications?
[03:26] <gerro> bruenig: xfce4-taskmanager
[03:26] <endra> Flannel: I am using the alternate cd of xubuntu
[03:26] <moppit> No but I have an issue of 2600 that talks about a hacker diet... (It wasn't very good)
[03:26] <mrj> bqmassey, even in Windows I used website apps for that
[03:26] <endra> mneptok: just need a web browser and pidgin for her
[03:27] <mrj> bqmassey, fitday.com or something along those lines, i havent used it recently
[03:27] <bruenig> oh I just use htop
[03:27] <bqmassey> mrj: cool.. i'll check that out
[03:27] <mneptok> endra: OpenBox + Dillo
[03:27] <endra> gerro: wait so I install xubuntu with blackbox instead of xcfe?
[03:27] <bqmassey> mrj: I wish I was better at programming.. i'd make something
[03:27] <gerro> endra: also try to optimize firefox for slow computer but fast connection that way it depends more on network than cpu to render pages
[03:27] <mneptok> endra: start with and install the server version. then add OpenBok, Dillo, Pidgin, and whatever else.
[03:28] <mneptok> *OpenBox
[03:28] <endra> guys keep in mind this is for someone who knows nothing of linux, so it has to be relatively simple for her to open up browser/pidgin
[03:28] <mrj> bqmassey, yeah i mean, i prefer it online anyway, i can check it and modify it whenever. i used to workout/box about 6 months ago and had to put on 35lbs or so
[03:28] <mneptok> endra: OpenBox is very familiar to most users
[03:28] <gerro> endra: you just apt-get install blackbox then on login choose session then pick the other one. You can also have gnome, kde, etc all on one system.
[03:28] <endra> mneptok: of xubuntu?
[03:28] <mneptok> endra: start with and install the server version. then add OpenBox, Dillo, Pidgin, and whatever else.
[03:29] <mneptok> i.e DO NOT USE THE XUBUNTU CD
[03:29] <endra> mneptok: I heard you the first time. Server version of XUBUNTU?
[03:29] <endra> so server version of what?
[03:29] <gerro> endra: its even faster if you remove gdm and login then do startx to load graphical system. (like 10mb less memory wasted) If you want fancy login use ascii art
[03:29] <mneptok> there is no server version of Xubuntu
[03:29] <Shpook> Can someone tell me what logfile I would check to see why my system freezes?
[03:29] <endra> so .. server version of what?
[03:29] <mneptok> the server version has no GUI by default
[03:29] <bqmassey> mrj: box any more?
[03:29] <gotama> Hi! How do I copy all files from /opt/ltsp/i386 to /opt/ltsp/i386_backup without losing a single byte. Help please
[03:29] <Dialntone> whats' the deal with fiesty, and gusty
[03:30] <Dialntone> i dont' understand
[03:30] <gerro> endra: I just grabbed ubuntu 7.04 server and did apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and removed all the desktop environment window managing stuff