[17:22] <ubuntu-mate> when you use dd and ddrescue , you cant adjust the partition to make a casper-rw or even wtf.txt notepad file
[17:22] <k1l> ubuntu-mate: no. but you can set in the settings to make it persitent and how much space you want to use for that.
[17:22] <Jakey3> can someone explain how ireslove this issue https://github.com/Unitech/pm2/issues/1112, i dont understand the answer
[17:23] <ash_workz> not that this is a big problem or anything, but I accidentally did crontab -e and it won't let me cancel out of the "select an editor" prompt... why?
[17:23] <k1l> ubuntu-mate: yes, but using dd will always have that error about sector size, since the image is made with 2024 sectors.
[17:23] <ubuntu-mate> hrm are you using xenail? there is no persistent option anymore on the GUI, any idea what file would have the info i edit
[17:23] <k1l> i am not running xenial right now
[17:24] <ubuntu-mate> they took away that GUI box
[17:24] <ubuntu-mate> to make things simpler.. /boogle
[17:24] <genii> Why don't you just dd the image to one usb stick, then install it onto a second one
[17:24] <ubuntu-mate> doesnt that destroy your usb with read/writes I/O if you full install to us
[17:25] <ubuntu-mate> kinda like the whole install running from tmpfs's that the livecd has
[17:25] <ubuntu-mate> and forums dont have nada for info on getting kernel param toram=yes to work
[17:27] <linuxlove> i am going to grant permission to a user for upload files in /var/www/html how can i do that ?
[17:27] <dragoonis> Trying to get my sound audio to work on my ubuntu install - can someone run me through getting it working please? I looked at some online guides and can verify that my sound card has been recognised. When I go to "Sound" in the control panel area the VOLUME slides is right down the bottom and I cannot slide it up
[17:28] <linuxlove> i am going to grant permission to a user for upload files in /var/www/html how can i do that ?
[17:29] <Jakey3> what does echo 'prefix=/usr/local' > node/etc/npmrc mean?
[17:29]  * Volund has Ubuntu setup, now has to redownload Windows 10 and ready for install. oi
[17:30] <genii> Jakey3: It means write the text string of prefix=/usr/local into a file called npmrc which is in directory etc under local directory called node
[17:31] <Bashing-om> Jakey3: Will add the parameter " prefix=/usr/local ' to the file "  node/etc/npmrc " . Make sure that is what you want .
[17:31] <linuxlove> i am going to grant permission to a user for upload files in /var/www/html how can i do that ?
[17:33] <ubuntu-mate> =(
[17:35] <Volund> well today's going to be.... fun
[17:37] <Norbin> unattended 14.04.4 installation just hangs, any debugging that can be done somehow, to understand where it's stuck? i've followed the official guide / forums on how-to make the custom iso.
[17:37] <fathom> Hello, when I boot my computer I get a message that there is something wrong with my OS and offers to send a bug report, but it does not let me view what the report is. Moreover, my computer allows updates without being root. Is this a sign of a compromised OS?
[17:37] <Jakey3> can someone help me fix an issue that i have the same as this post
[17:37] <Jakey3> https://github.com/Unitech/pm2/issues/1112
[17:38] <dragoonis> In the Sound section -> the "Play sound through" box is empty. Although i ran some commands and it recognised that I have a sound card
[17:39] <bartosz_> hi
[17:39] <bartosz_> what is #$PATH? Please answer in simple words!
[17:40] <linuxlove> hello every body
[17:40] <bartosz_> hi
[17:41] <k1l> bartosz_: a variable where folders are mentioned where the shell looks for programs.
[17:41] <bartosz_> k1l what kind of programs? like steam for instance?
[17:41] <dragoonis> I just followed this online guide - and i no longer have a "Sound" option when looking in my system settings - http://itsfoss.com/fix-sound-ubuntu-1304-quick-tip/
[17:41] <k1l> bartosz_: do you have a specific issue?
[17:41] <Bashing-om> bartosz_: What is the context ?... is the '#" disabling parsing where exexutable files are located ?
[17:42] <linuxlove> i have created a group named webcontent how can i assign accessing to /var/www/html to members of this group ?
[17:42] <bartosz_> I'm still learning linux, and couldn't find quite simple answer on the Internet
[17:44] <k1l> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables   bartosz_ see this it got a  table for variables
[17:44] <linuxlove> i have created a group named webcontent how can i assign accessing to /var/www/html to members of this group ?
[17:44] <minitrue> lock
[17:44] <kirbo719> noob?: installed Xubuntu 14.04 LTS.  Learning the OS. Is there an install log I can view to ensure the install went well? Same when apps installed?
[17:45] <bartosz_> tnx
[17:45] <linuxlove> am i wasting my time here?
[17:45] <Volund> linuxlove: you need to research how users and groups work and what chown does.
[17:46] <Bashing-om> bartosz_: Learning : see -> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FullBashGuide . A great tutorial to learn bash ( and lots of things terminal ).
[17:46] <Volund> linuxlove: No, but you need to have some patience because not all of us are experts. the big pros aren't always on 24/7 you know. have some patience.
[17:46] <boxmein> kirbo719: there's a lot of different things happening during the installation, I'm fairly certain if you find logs to them all they won't be in a single file
[17:46] <bartosz_> thank you a lot Bashing-om
[17:46] <k1l> linuxlove: i think we are paste the state of handholding with you. you really need to learn things and not use this as a "give me the terminal commands quick" solution
[17:46] <bartosz_> i will
[17:46] <linuxlove> Volund, okay you are right
[17:47] <linuxlove> k1l, you are right
[17:47] <Bashing-om> bartosz_: :) A big help in that learning curve .
[17:47] <boxmein> kirbo719: application installs are logged in /var/log/dpkg.log and /var/log/apt/term.log, respectively for the dpkg backend and apt frontend
[17:47] <kirbo719> ok. tnx!
[17:47] <boxmein> kirbo719: boot logs are in "journalctl -b 0" where "-b 0" means that "only show me logs from this boot onward!"
[17:48] <boxmein> kirbo719: other than journalctl, just explore /var/log, tons of stuff there!
[17:48] <linuxlove> k1l, but i need to determine webcontent owner of /var/www/html directory
[17:48] <Volund> linuxlove: asking questions and being pointed in the right direction to do self-research instead of being handed the final answer teaches a lot more in the end, in my experience.
[17:49] <k1l> linuxlove: ls -l /path/to/folder
[17:49] <k1l> linuxlove: owner should be www-data
[17:49] <k1l> linuxlove: but you can set the user to be in the group www-data too
[17:50] <bartosz_> Bashing-om: doesn't work :C
[17:51] <bartosz_> Bashing-om: okay, now it's working
[17:51] <Volund> linuxlove: To explain a little about users and groups, files/folders can be OWNED by one user and BELONG to a completely different group, with different permissions for each. This is how you will handle shared permissions to hard drive locations: smartly employing users and groups. especially groups.
[17:52] <linuxlove> k1l, if i assign a user  to www-data group he just can access to /var/www/html?
[17:52] <Volund> linuxlove: I don't know the full details of how complex groups can get, mind. juist that I can add users to them. I dunno, can yo add groups to groups? go find out
[17:52] <Jakey3> does this look correct  sudo env PATH=$PATH:/opt/node/bin pm2  ?
[17:52] <Bashing-om> bartosz_: ? What was not working ??//// " not working" alone tells us nothing .,.. and we have nothing to base a troubleshooting procedure on .
[17:53] <linuxlove> k1l, i also need to assign write permission to that user just on /var/www/html
[17:53] <bartosz_> Bashing-om: URL had problems
[17:53] <k1l> linuxlove: yes
[17:53] <k1l> linuxlove: no
[17:53] <bartosz_> Bashing-om: sory, i thought i wrote fullbashguide
[17:54] <k1l> linuxlove: that webfolder should have owner and group set to www-data to be working with the webserver.
[17:54] <Bashing-om> bartosz_:  K .. Been a while since i accessed .. I did go back and verify at this time the link is still valid .
[17:54] <Fresh> I am trying to sync my iphone 6 with my music library on my ubuntu laptop. my mac battery recently crapped out and havent really been motivated to buy a new batt yet. Banshee just "erased" all the music from my phone and said it  loaded new music on but nothing shows on the phone. just the old music. when I go to play the old music it drops off my music list.
[17:55]  * Volund watches file transfer at a crawl.
[17:55] <bartosz_> Bashing-om: VALID, it was something for 2 mins; now it works
[17:56] <Volund> system-config-lvm is the best thing ever. graphical tool to aid understanding of this very complex concept.
[17:56] <Bashing-om> bartosz_: :) .. all good then .. happy bash'n .
[17:56] <bartosz_> thanks! bye
[17:56] <linuxlove> k1l, can he write to /var/www/html if he is in web-data group?
[17:57] <Volund> if you add <specific user> to www-data group and www-data group has write access to /var/www/html then yes. that's what groups do.
[17:57] <Volund> whether this is a smart thing to do, I dunno
[17:58] <k1l> linuxlove: www-data
[17:58] <k1l> linuxlove: details matter here
[17:58] <k1l> linuxlove: and yes, he can write then
[17:59] <linuxlove> k1l, excuse me for my less knowledge
[17:59] <Jakey3> how do i make export PATH=$PATH:/opt/node/bi persist ?
[17:59] <Jakey3> how do i make export PATH=$PATH:/opt/node/bin persist ?
[18:00] <sta7ic> Jakey3: possibly in .bashrc or .profile
[18:00] <linuxlove> k1l, i want to grant permission on just one directory /var/www/html to that user
[18:00] <Jakey3> sta7ic, can you explain me exactly ehat i need to do
[18:00] <Jakey3> please
[18:01] <linuxlove> k1l, i just need to grant write permission on that directory to a user
[18:01] <linuxlove> i am new to linux
[18:01] <Volund> linuxlove: I think you could chown -R /var/www/html <user>:www-data
[18:01] <Volund> but I dunno if that would break anything
[18:01] <k1l> linuxlove: yes. i told you 10 times now what to do.
[18:01] <k1l> Volund: no
[18:01] <k1l> Volund: put that user into www-data group.
[18:02] <Volund> k11: wouldn't that grant access to -everything-  www-data can acess? Unless this isn't a problem
[18:03] <Volund> linuxlove: spend some time researching how users, groups, and permissions works. it's rather valuable knowledge. I sure could afford to study more
[18:03] <k1l> Volund: that should be the /var/www/html folder for that group
[18:04] <linuxlove> k1l, usermod -aG www-data user is correct?
[18:05] <linuxlove> k1l, usermod -aG www-data user is correct?
[18:05] <k1l> linuxlove: sudo adduser user group
[18:05] <linuxlove> k1l, i have created user already
[18:05] <jeeves_moss> how do I load a device tree?  I don't have a /sys/devices/capemgr.*/slots/ directory
[18:06] <k1l> linuxlove: the command is called adduser. its simpler to use
[18:11] <Volund> nothing to do but wait for my new case and video card to arrive. sigh
[18:12] <Volund> k11: would you believe that adding 8tb drives to a computer would cause it to behave horribly slow and erratically?
[18:15] <daftykins> Volund: that's off topic here really, OS support only - chatter in #ubuntu-offtopic and more hardware topics can be had in ##hardware :)
[18:15] <daftykins> sounds like a buggy EFI though
[18:15] <linuxlove> k1l, i used  usermod -aG www-data user but user cant write to /var/www/html yet
[18:16] <Volund> daftykins: yeah. it's just, all last night, for 12 hours straight I was trying and trying to setup Linux on a 2x 8tb setup. kept wondering what i was doing wrong in Linux.
[18:16] <k1l> linuxlove: that user needs to logout
[18:17] <daftykins> Volund: so that's still chat, see the above channels.
[18:17] <linuxlove> k1l, i am using rsync in terminal user@myhost
[18:19] <k1l> linuxlove: that user needs to cut all connections and login again to make it work
[18:20] <linuxlove> do you mean that i need to restart ?
[18:21] <daftykins> no, log out
[18:25] <linuxlove> k1l, i get this error cp /home/mohsen/web.xml /var/www/html/
[18:25] <linuxlove> cp: cannot create regular file ‘/var/www/html/web.xml’: Permission denied
[18:26] <daftykins> you have to run that one with sudo...
[18:26] <kbrosnan> or add your user to the group that owns the folder
[18:26] <Aleksandar86> in this command "apt-get -y install proftpd"   what is "-y" ?
[18:26] <linuxlove> daftykins, mohsen is not in suders
[18:26] <daftykins> sudoers has nothing to do with this situation
[18:27] <daftykins> oh from that angle...
[18:27] <daftykins> meh, i don't think your experience level with Linux is enough to do anything that you mentioned you want.
[18:27] <daftykins> running a website when you can't get around file permissions is a huge warning sign
[18:27] <Aleksandar86> i try with this command install proftpd on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS but i had error
[18:27] <Aleksandar86> but without -y work good
[18:28] <Bashing-om> Aleksandar86: the "y" autoanswers to "yes" for the install prompt .
[18:28] <daftykins> Aleksandar86: an FTP server is more often than not a mistake. what is the use case? SFTP or SCP may be more appropriate and secure
[18:28] <Aleksandar86> Unable to fetch some archives
[18:29] <CacheMoney> SFTP ftw
[18:29] <Aleksandar86> i try apt-get update
[18:29] <linuxlove> daftykins, i dont want to put mohsen in sudoers
[18:29] <Aleksandar86> but again not working
[18:29] <daftykins> linuxlove: that's not the answer anyway.
[18:29] <Bailey831> hi guys
[18:29] <daftykins> Aleksandar86: don't use the enter key so quickly - and show an example of what's happening on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:30] <linuxlove> daftykins, you mean i need to leave any thing
[18:30] <Volund> bbiab, gonna try to install one of those 8tb drives again now that the SSD is handling running Linux
[18:30] <daftykins> linuxlove: that doesn't make sense
[18:32] <Aleksandar86> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[18:32] <Aleksandar86> cant install proftpd
[18:32] <Aleksandar86> i try apt-get update
[18:32] <linuxlove> daftykins, thanks it is better to help instead of things you say
[18:33] <Bashing-om> !info proftpd
[18:34] <Bashing-om> !info proftpd trusty
[18:34] <ioria> !info  proftpd-basic trusty
[18:35] <linuxlove> daftykins, you can just redirect people to learn
[18:35] <Egyptian[web]> howdy - i am trying to run sftp in a chroot environment. however the logs reply with subsystem request for sftp by user user failed, subsystem not found - i checked my sshd_config file and the file exists in /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server = what gives?
[18:35] <ioria> stange pkg
[18:35] <ioria> *r
[18:35] <Aleksandar86> what is good alternative for proftpd?
[18:35] <ioria> vsftp
[18:36] <Bailey831> How can I fix this error : [24097.717264] systemd-hostnamed[10602]: Warning: nss-myhostname is not installed. Changing the local hostname might make it unresolveable. Please install nss-myhostname!
[18:37] <Aleksandar86> sudo apt-get install vsftpd, again error: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?  How can i change fetch list?
[18:37] <Seveas> Bailey831: the answer is in the question :)
[18:37] <ioria> !info vsftp
[18:38] <ioria> !info vsftpd trusty
[18:38] <ioria> Aleksandar86, try vsftpd
[18:38] <Seveas> Aleksandar86: run apt-get update; pastebin the full output.
[18:38] <akik> Egyptian[web]: you can follow this guide for chroot sftp http://askubuntu.com/questions/49271/how-to-setup-a-sftp-server-with-users-chrooted-in-their-home-directories/49284#49284
[18:38] <Aleksandar86> i have ubuntu-14.04.4-server-amd64 LTS
[18:38] <daftykins> linuxlove: what do you mean 'direct to learn' ?
[18:38] <daftykins> *redirect
[18:39] <Egyptian[web]> akik: no worries i found the typo :D
[18:39] <Volund> YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS this seems to be the solution. So installing Ubuntu on one of the 8tb drives isn't going to work, but I can still use them for STORAGE
[18:39] <Volund> now to figure out how to LVM this sucker again.
[18:40] <adeon_> Volund why wouldnt you be able to install on a 8TB?
[18:40] <Volund> adeon_: For some reason, when I use one of the 8tb drives for my Linux install in any capacity, the system begins to chug, halt, behave erratically, freeze when unpacking packages, etc. like, it will hang on 'unpacking libssl' for a half-hour
[18:41] <daftykins> adeon_: i would imagine it's due to Volund not being so familiar with 1) EFI 2) GPT 3) the bugs in the former that could prevent the system working right
[18:41] <Volund> daftykins: I'm using GPT!
[18:41] <Aleksandar86> ioria, Seveas, http://pastebin.com/e05HEp4H
[18:41] <daftykins> Volund: that's nice, that's one of 3 points
[18:41] <Seveas> Aleksandar86:   Could not resolve 'rs.archive.ubuntu.com'
[18:41] <ioria> Aleksandar86, your local repos down ?
[18:42] <Seveas> your resolv.conf is broken
[18:42] <Aleksandar86> how can change this adress?
[18:42] <adeon_> Volund have you tried to install a 64bit ubuntu+UEFI ?
[18:42] <ioria> Aleksandar86,  ping www.google.com
[18:42] <Seveas> Aleksandar86: you need to make sure you're using a working nameserver.
[18:42] <Volund> in any case, my solution appears to be installing Linux on a small SSD (256gb I'm afraid) and setting up the 8tb drives for storage. THAT appears to be working. adeon_ : I don't use anything BUT 64-bit and UEFI anymore
[18:42] <Volund> It's likely an issue with this Lenovo TS140
[18:42] <daftykins> no that's a workaround, not a solution
[18:43] <Volund> daftykins: point. Still acceptable to me, having Linux on an SSD is a plus.
 I search for nss-myhostname, the result only show libnss-myhostname
[18:43] <Aleksandar86> ioria i think my DNS not working
[18:43] <Aleksandar86> ping google.com not working
[18:43] <ioria> Aleksandar86,  here we are
[18:43] <Aleksandar86> :)
[18:43] <ioria> Aleksandar86,  ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
[18:44] <Volund> is there a specific channel where we talk about nothing but LVM? I need to LVM geek at people and ask serious LVM questions
[18:44] <Volund> because wrapping my head around it is still taking some effort
[18:44] <Aleksandar86> i'm here nano -b /etc/network/interfaces
[18:44] <Aleksandar86> i need add dns
[18:44] <daftykins> !alis | Volund
[18:44] <Volund> oh that's handy
[18:45] <ioria> Aleksandar86,  dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:45] <daftykins> Volund: i think you should have updated the BIOS on that little microserver.
[18:45] <daftykins> did you check the version?
[18:45] <Volund> daftykins: I did.
[18:45] <Volund> it's on the latest and that didn't help at all.
[18:45] <daftykins> tell me exactly the version
[18:45] <Volund> uhhhhh. one second
[18:46] <Aleksandar86> ioria i do this, and i reboot ubuntu
[18:46] <Volund> I updated to B7A as seen on this page http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/downloads/ds036974
[18:46] <ioria> Aleksandar86, ok, you can just restart networking
[18:46] <daftykins> i know what's on the page, i want to hear it confirmed what's *on* there :)
[18:46] <Aleksandar86> which is better proftpf or VSFTPD?
[18:46] <daftykins> it looks like it's more designed for Windows Server to be honest.
[18:47] <daftykins> Aleksandar86: neither, FTP is ancient and insecure
[18:47] <Volund> daftykins: B7A is on there, I just updated it
[18:47] <Volund> and yeah it is. but hey I can get Ubuntu going
[18:47] <daftykins> and you reset to defaults after, as is best-practice?
[18:47] <ioria> Aleksandar86, like before, scp or sftp over ssh mybe a better idea ...
[18:49] <daftykins> Volund: hang on what media were you trying to install from...
[18:51] <ali__> hello
[18:51] <ali__> hello every body
[18:52] <goodfox> yes, hello
[18:52] <ali__> how do you do goodfox
[18:53] <daftykins> ali__: support only in here, no chat thanks
[18:54] <ali__> how are you spartis
[18:54] <ali__> hello isa
[18:54] <spartis> im good
[18:55] <isa_> hello tout le monde
[18:55] <ncx> hi ;)
[18:55] <k1l> ali__: for general talk please use #ubuntu-offtopic . we try to focus on technical ubuntu support in here.
[18:55] <ali__> where did you come from isa
[18:57] <ali__> hello Aristide
[18:58] <rahul__> km
[18:58] <ChrissM> Can somewhere help me about den keyboard config?
[18:59] <ali__> yann hi
[18:59] <nacc_> ChrissM: just ask your question, people will respond as they are able
[19:02] <ChrissM> So i have an German (Austria) Keyboard. I have config the keyboard on the terminal (sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration) and it was OK. But when i reboot the pc, it's lost the change.
[19:03] <bunjee> How do I get python version 3.2 or greater?
[19:03] <lapyo> apt-get install
[19:03] <bunjee> lapyo - I tried that - just got newest version 2.7
[19:04] <daftykins> likely it isn't available on the distro you have installed, in default repos
[19:04] <daftykins> !latest
[19:04] <nacc_> bunjee: what version of ubuntu?
[19:04] <nacc_> bunjee: you might need to install python3 rather than python
[19:04] <bunjee> kubuntu 14.4
[19:05] <genii> !info python3 trusty
[19:05] <daftykins> !info python3 trusty
[19:05] <daftykins> genii: ^5 ;D
[19:05] <genii> daftykins: Hehe
[19:05] <llwalahoop> Hi there! I'm planning to make a clean install and I'm curious to know what partitions would be good to have and what mount points to have. I'd like to make the home directory it's own partition.
[19:05] <daftykins> llwalahoop: / swap and /home, yeah.
[19:06] <nacc_> bunjee: so yeah, you can get python 3 via that package in your version
[19:06] <hspcd> I have an HP laptop with an Intel HD 4000 card in it and I keep getting booted out of my session back to the login screen (Ubuntu 15.10 Unity).  Anybody have any tips on diagnosing and resolving this?
[19:06] <seraphina> Hi, admittedly is not really an ubuntu specific question but does anyone happen to know would the SMART stats on a hard disk record errors due to a damaged SATA cable or does it only know about things internal to the drive?
[19:06] <nici_> witam
[19:06] <llwalahoop> daftykins: Is that really all? What about efi or boot?
[19:06] <daftykins> seraphina: what issues are you experiencing?
[19:06] <Volund> daftykins: hooray! I have setup LVM on one of the 8tb drives and am copying my big pile of data to it. yahoo. :D
[19:07] <NTQ> Hi. I am using Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 on my Thinkpad and I have plugged in an usb wlan stick. It seems that I can not connect it to a WLAN. There is no wlan1 or similar available. I want to connect it to an action camera with an extra route.
[19:07] <daftykins> llwalahoop: EFI would be relevant for an EFI system sure.
[19:07] <bunjee> nacc - got - python3 is already the newest version.
[19:07] <daftykins> separate /boot is a mistake
[19:07] <NTQ> Also I want to use the internal wlan0 for normal internet connection.
[19:07] <llwalahoop> daftykins: Ok, I have no idea what that efi means whatsoever
[19:07] <bunjee> nacc - asking for python --version - comes back with 2.7
[19:07] <daftykins> !efi | llwalahoop
[19:07] <daftykins> llwalahoop: you'll want to check what your system uses
[19:07] <ChrissM> Can somewhere help me? I have an German (Austria) Keyboard. I have config the keyboard on the terminal (sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration) and it was OK. But when i reboot the pc, it's lost the change.
[19:08] <daftykins> ChrissM: #ubuntu-de and #linux might be helpful.
[19:08] <llwalahoop> daftykins: How am I to do that? :) I can get to BIOS, I know that much.
[19:09] <seraphina> Oh, high number of read errors on a SATA HDD, found out that the connector had cracked on it they seem to have happened to go away since it was replaced a few weeks back but the SMART data records a high number of errors too so wondering if maybe the cable would have logged errors there too or if it's probably the drive is in a poor way at the same time.
[19:09] <daftykins> llwalahoop: read the above link.
[19:09] <llwalahoop> Sry!
[19:10] <daftykins> seraphina: share the SMART table of data in a http://paste.ubuntu.com if smartctl, or a screenshot on imgur.com
[19:10] <daftykins> i prefer smartctl -a /dev/sdx
[19:11] <bunjee> i'm trying to get the latest version of Gramps - needs python 3.2 or greater
[19:11] <seraphina> http://pastebin.com/UYXbTNi8
[19:11] <smamir> Firefox is eating up lots of RAM and slows down when I start watch youtube video. I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. Any ideas folks? :)
[19:12] <BikerMike> smamir you know what? I have noticed a huge slowdown as well when using FF on Ubuntu Trusty Tahr. Sometimes sites don't even get loaded
[19:12] <daftykins> you can't pin that on a browser
[19:12] <icefox234> hello?
[19:12] <icefox234> I have question about 16.04
[19:12] <daftykins> bunjee: i'd bet you need to run "update-alternatives
[19:13] <daftykins> icefox234: #ubuntu+1 for that.
[19:13] <icefox234> okay
[19:14] <smamir> BikerMike, It's maddening. I tested with playing 3-4 videos simultaneously in Firefox with Win7. Works like Breeze! btw I have 4gb ddr3 Ram
[19:14] <daftykins> are we talking about the HTML5 player?
[19:14] <seraphina> Good point there are so many potential points of failure that could cause pages not to load, would require a rather more comprehensive diagnostic to identify a cause with any degree of conclusiveness
[19:14] <BikerMike> wow good for you smamir, i happen to have half of your ram *self-pity*
[19:15] <smamir> daftykins, mostly yes. html5 player is default in new videos.
[19:15] <BikerMike> I'm also wondering why the Brightness bar doesn't seem to work? :(
[19:15] <daftykins> smamir: no, you won't get flash on supported ubuntu + firefox versions :)
[19:16] <daftykins> though i'd recommend avoiding it entirely regardless
[19:16] <daftykins> smamir: anyway next step would be your graphics hardware + driver, most likely
[19:16] <daftykins> BikerMike: clean install on a laptop, or?
[19:17] <BikerMike> daftykins side-by-side Win7
[19:17] <seraphina> Flash = ugly hack around HTML5 not being ready in time for when it was needed, now obsolete lol
[19:17] <daftykins> BikerMike: that doesn't mean anything to me
[19:17] <smamir> daftykins, yes it's html5 player. not flash. I just checked.
[19:17] <bunjee> daftykins - I'll try it
[19:18] <daftykins> seraphina: no, not even vaguely right. so - got that SMART data output to share?
[19:18] <seraphina> daftykins, heh, was just about to check with you if you had overlooked it
[19:18] <smamir> btw Chrome on ubuntu works just fine.
[19:18] <seraphina> daftykins, Here it is again http://pastebin.com/UYXbTNi8 :)
[19:18] <daftykins> ah you didn't highlight me with it, that's why.
[19:18] <BikerMike> Curious, does anyone have a newbie cheat sheet (or downloadable ebook) for CLI commands on Ubuntu Linux?
[19:18] <Multbrelch> Hi all. Topic is NFS -> On the server (Ubuntu 64Bit 14.04) I have installed nfs-kernel-server and nfs-common. I have prepared /etc/exports. Must the directory, that is shared, have a 777 permission and a specific user/group entry like 'nobody'?
[19:19] <daftykins> seraphina: since you've changed the cable, has table ID #197 continued to increment?
[19:20] <daftykins> seraphina: the problem with seagates is their SMART data is horrible, they increment all the 'error' fields when things are normal, so they can be very misleading.
[19:20] <seraphina> daftykins, 197 has been 0 when I've looked every time I think you mean 195?
[19:21] <daftykins> oh yeah sorry, typo.
[19:21] <virulent> Afternoon - I am trying to apply a patch to my kernel, reiser4 (I know I know but I am just experimenting with it). I did the patch -p1 < reiser4 kernel patch but when I go into make menuconfig its not there to select -- am I missing something?
[19:22] <seraphina> Yeah don't think it has gone up, is no more reports in the error longs since around 800 power on hours ago which is a little longer than the 780 hours the new SSD has been on which was installed at the same time as the new SATA cable
[19:23] <daftykins> seraphina: i'd just watch them all then, but yeah anything that persists would likely have been from the bad cable - see at the bottom where errors are recorded against power on hour? that'll be good to keep an eye on too.
[19:23] <seraphina> So seems like the SATA cable might have resolved it just wasn't sure if the drive would have been seeing errors that occured outside the drive
[19:24] <smamir> daftykins, my graphics driver is AMD graphics accelerator from fglrx. Do you think I should switch back to X.org driver?
[19:24] <seraphina> Though I suppose if the bad cable resulted in bad writes is possible that only got detected when it tried to read it later again possibly?
[19:25] <daftykins> smamir: well it'd be the open source radeon, i'd need more system info to even begin to consider if it'd be appropriate
[19:26] <daftykins> seraphina: a bad cable would cause ECC errors due to communication with the controller board on the drive.
[19:28] <smamir> daftykins, What sys info do you need?
[19:29] <smamir> This firefox freezing is killing me. I need a solution, and fast. :(
[19:29] <daftykins> smamir: what the graphics card is
[19:29] <daftykins> smamir: maybe don't watch 4 videos at once ;)
[19:30] <k1l> smamir: try without your plugins first
[19:30] <k1l> smamir: the privacy badger and such are known to cause lagging
[19:30] <Multbrelch> My Ubuntu box is a nfs server. Must the directory, that is shared with a client, have 777 permission, and must it have a special user:group name?
[19:31] <daftykins> 777 is never right
[19:31] <seraphina> daftykins, Ah ok I thought that it could be that thinking that the drive might have record of it since the SATA controller probably sends a message back saying no good try again but wanted to be sure
[19:33] <smamir> daftykins, Firefox on ubuntu freezes with just one video. :v Myu gfx card is amd radeon 6450 1gb dd3
[19:34] <daftykins> that card has reached legacy status in recent releases
[19:34] <llwalahoop> daftykins: Thanks! I think I know know which one I'll use.
[19:34] <Multbrelch> daftykins, I know this is why I'm asking since I found it on the regular Ubuntu page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[19:34] <jmadero1> how do I go about uninstalling something that failed to install - I keep getting suggestions to run "sudo apt-get -f install" but that fails also
[19:34] <daftykins> that's a community guide.
[19:34] <jmadero1> I'd like to just purge the package but it's telling me that apt-get is screwed up
[19:35] <daftykins> try sudo dpkg -r <package>
[19:35] <daftykins> but we'd need to see the actual output first-hand.
[19:35] <smamir> daftykins, Can you explain? What's a legacy status?
[19:35] <Multbrelch> daftykins, so, I should not consider these pages?
[19:36] <jmadero1> dpkg doesn't accept wilds?
[19:36] <daftykins> jmadero1: like what
[19:36] <daftykins> jmadero1: as i said, pastebin what's happening.
[19:36] <jmadero1> sudo dpkg -r libreoffice*
[19:36] <daftykins> no use packages.
[19:37] <daftykins> smamir: did you say you're on 14.04?
[19:37] <jmadero1> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/i7jZrnBH
[19:37] <jmadero1> it's hard to tell what package I need to remove
 use force
[19:38] <bunjee> daftykins - update alternatives did not work
[19:38] <jmadero1> I did
[19:38] <jmadero1> thus the -f ;)
[19:38] <daftykins> bunjee: did you even see it list different python versions? or is this a "i don't know how to use it" kind of "did not work" ?
[19:38] <seraphina> Hmm, this talk about graphics cards reminds me actually when I did this ubuntu install I ended up having to use the mini iso installer since it's text mode, the live CD with the open source driver causes the screen to freeze as soon as it attempts to take over on the Nvidia GTX 760.  The nvidia drivers work fine once the system is installed but just wondering if there is some simpler workaround that going with the mini ISO that I overlooked for nex
[19:38] <seraphina> t time?
[19:39] <daftykins> jmadero1: were you actually trying to update an existing libre office to that on a PPA you added, or?
[19:39] <jmadero1> yeah I was - I went from 5.0 ppa to 5.1 ppa
[19:39] <daftykins> seraphina: what version? things have changed a lot.
[19:39] <sruli> i need some help with systemd, i am trying to run a script on shutdown/reboot but it doesnt work, at the moment all the script has is "rm -rf /path/to/dir" my job.service file http://paste.ubuntu.com/15269452/ i enabled the service, i dont know why its not working, can someone please help
[19:39] <daftykins> jmadero1: strikes me that you didn't prepare well enough to go from one to the other then.
[19:39] <smamir> daftykins, Yes I'm on 14.04. And I just found out what legacy status means. :)
[19:40] <jmadero1> none the less, does apt-get really freeze me out of uninstalling when an install goes bad? that's dysfunctional
[19:40] <seraphina> daftykins, The one on the 15.10 live CD not sure which version the live system is running such would kinda require the live CD to become interactive before it promply freezes the screen :(
[19:40] <bunjee> daftykins - I'm new at this - probably the latter
[19:40] <daftykins> jmadero1: no, you screwed it up.
[19:41] <jmadero1> again, the point is that it shouldn't prevent me from uninstalling....even if I did something wrong
 Next LTS release use kernel 4.4 maybe most stable on hnadling graphics
[19:41] <jmadero1> also it shouldn't prevent me from installing different packages
[19:41] <daftykins> jmadero1: "dpkg -l | grep libre" would show what situation everythign is in.
[19:41] <daftykins> jmadero1: it doesn't, again you're just not too hot on package management as we've seen before
[19:41] <Jordan_U> sruli: When you last asked I pointed you to the documentation on default dependencies and suggested you try asking in #systemd. Is there any reason you didn't ask in #systemd?
[19:42] <bunjee> daftykins - what happens if python is removed?
[19:42] <sruli> Jordan_U: it was very lonly being the olny person in #systemd ;-)
[19:42] <seraphina> Bailey831, Possible am just wondering if there is some simpler workaround that I should bear in mind for future reference just in case I encounter the same problem again
[19:42] <daftykins> bunjee: you no longer have python.
[19:42] <bunjee> daftykins - can I reinstall it?
[19:42] <seraphina> Bailey831, And/or if I ever have need to make use of the liveCD to do something which at the moment pretty much is an impossibility
[19:43] <daftykins> bunjee: share what you saw running update-alternatives.
[19:43] <Jordan_U> sruli: You were never the only person in #systemd, and you didn't even try asking (or at least you only asked before I entered the channel, and haven't asked again since).
[19:44] <daftykins> bunjee: look at the #1 google result for this - http://askubuntu.com/questions/320996/make-default-python-command-to-use-python-3
[19:44] <tinyalpha> hello all hows ubuntu
[19:44] <bunjee> daftykins - I'm in the process of removing python and it looks like I'll have lost a lot more that that....
[19:44] <sruli> Jordan_U: oops i must have mis typed systemd when i tried to join yesterday, in now
[19:44] <sruli> tnx
[19:45] <Jordan_U> sruli: You're welcome :)
[19:45] <daftykins> bunjee: that was really silly.
[19:45] <bunjee> daftykins - yes I'm seeing that
[19:46] <Jordan_U> sruli: Remember to start by explaining your end goal (clear /var/log/ before shutdown).
[19:46] <sruli> Jordan_U: will do thanks
[19:47] <seraphina> Course I know ultimately doubt it's Ubuntu at fault with the driver issue really being a fairly recent card and Nvidia's insistence on making their cards a million times harder to support than they need be
[19:48] <hugo> quit
[19:48] <hugo> #quit
[19:48] <daftykins> seraphina: it's the open source driver nouveau trying to work with the cards and not doing so well most likely, once 16.04 is out a lot of things should be easier
[19:48] <virulent> If I upgrade to 4.4 mainline off the ubuntu site, will "dpkg -i" apply my old configuration files and such or do I have to do it myself?
[19:48] <user54541210> guys does someone know how to fix the message "unrestricted..." update problem on Ubuntu 15.1?
[19:48] <cristal_> Hey. I am sharing the connection from a ethernet interface to another, using the NetworkManager. Everything works fine, but I'd like to have a finer control on the DHCP. WHere are the configs for such?
[19:48] <nacc_> bunjee: sorry, was otp -- might need to be python3 (the executiable you invoke), as python3 isn't the default until 16.04 (iirc)
[19:49] <cristal_> I'm using Ubuntu 14.04.3.
[19:49] <daftykins> virulent: manually installing packages only has relevance to what kernel you run when you've installed drivers and such - but why are you installing a mainline kernel?
[19:50] <virulent> daftykins: well I am just trying to patch my kernel for reiser4, I am on the 4.2.0 kernel now and theres no 4.2.0 patch.
[19:50] <daftykins> oh that was you.
[19:50] <virulent> It was?
[19:50] <daftykins> yeah, not a topic i can help with
[19:50] <bunjee> nacc - read this   python --version
[19:50] <bunjee> Python 2.7.6
[19:51] <daftykins> python3 --version ...
[19:52] <seraphina> daftykins, Presumably I think so yes, seems like it is sending the card a bad command and causing the GPU to lock up or otherwise become unresponsive I think, well either a bad command or the wrong command at the wrong time when the GPU isn't in the proper state for it to execute it.
[19:52] <nacc_> bunjee: right, that's why i said run python3 ?
[19:52] <daftykins> seraphina: that sounds like a serious guess.
[19:52] <bunjee> nacc - this is waht I got back python3 --version
[19:52] <bunjee> Python 3.4.3
[19:53] <nacc_> bunjee: right, so there you are :)
[19:53] <daftykins> bunjee: so exactly the same as my link...
[19:54] <daftykins> i.e. the #1 google result on how to pick which python...
[19:54] <baDasS> Oops!
[19:54] <bunjee> nacc - I uninstalled python as root - looks like I removed a lot of programs - true?
[19:54] <Aleksandar86> I need help...is posible upload file on remote server Ubuntu with putty ssh from Windows?
[19:55] <Pici> bunjee: why did you do that?!
[19:55] <streulma> hello, in Ubuntu via Details there is Default Applications, how can I add a custom application to this list ?
[19:55] <zdenda> vcl
[19:55] <bunjee> daftykins - I couldn't even open that link up - ctrl tap the link - nothing
[19:55] <Pici> bunjee: you've likely completely hosed your system if you removed python.
[19:55] <daftykins> riiiiight.
[19:56] <seraphina> daftykins, Possibly though a couple of times it happened doing a soft reset left corruption artifacts behind easily fixed by a hard reset though kinda seems like it's triggered a hardware error to me but fair enough I am not exactly the worlds leading expert on low level GPU internals lol
[19:56] <bunjee> Pici - so how can I "unhose" it?
[19:56] <Pici> bunjee: reinstall.
[19:56] <Jordan_U> bunjee: Yes. You probably want to "sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop" to be sure you have everything that's supposed to be in a default Ubuntu install.
[19:56] <bunjee> Pici: fresh from scratch - I'd lose all my stuff?
[19:57] <Pici> bunjee: Jordan_U's suggestion might work, but you just removed a key system component.
[19:57] <seraphina> Just don't really see how a software error in say the kernel or x would survive even a soft reset of the CPU though, a hardware error on the GPU side possibly :s
[19:57] <nacc_> bunjee: yes, that's a bad idea
[19:58] <bunjee> nacc: what's a bad idea?
[19:58] <nacc_> bunjee: removing python
[19:58] <bunjee> nacc: yes - I'm dead now!
[19:58] <Jordan_U> Pici: I figure if bunjee had removed the version of python needed for anything too critical (like preventing apt from working) apt-get would have complained very loudly.
[19:59] <sourav> ...
[19:59] <nacc_> Jordan_U: i believe it did ("looks like I removed a lot of programs")
[20:00] <nacc_> Jordan_U: which to me implies bunjee had to agree to the removal of said programs :)
[20:00] <Pici> bunjee: python2 and python3 can, and do coexist on Ubuntu. You don't and should not uninstall one to use the other. You shouldn't point the 'python' exectuable at python3. Everything assumes that 'python' is python2 and 'python3' is python3
[20:00] <seraphina> Though the GPU is practically the core of a computer system in and of itself complete with it's own processor, RAM, interfaces etc
[20:00] <bunjee> Pici: I lost my terminal now
[20:01] <sourav> :)
[20:01] <Pici> bunjee: yes, like I said you should salvage your data using a livecd and then reinstall.
[20:01] <sruli> Jordan_U: i managed to sort my problem, have another issue will ask on systemd
[20:03] <bunjee> ici: how do I get terminal back?
[20:03] <bunjee> Pici:
[20:03] <seraphina> Anyways thanks for the help guess will find out in a few months if the 16.04 live CD will play nice with my card heh
[20:04] <user54541210> no one?
[20:04] <Pici> bunjee: how did you lose it?
[20:04] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | seraphina Keep in mind
[20:04] <user54541210> it may be a basic question, but I really investigated on the internet an nobody give a real solution
[20:05] <Pici> user54541210: please restate your question.
[20:05] <bunjee> Pici: I guess by uninstalling python
[20:05] <user54541210> When the update windows pop-ups it says that the update needs untrusted packages and then it ends the update process
[20:06] <Pici> bunjee: You might be able to use your ttys, ie.e ctrl-alt-f1.
[20:06] <Elw3> Hey there, what is a quick way to set the language of the automatic spell checker? The one active in gtk i think.
[20:06] <user54541210> I can figure out why this happen and how to fix it
[20:07] <Bashing-om> user54541210: Maybe best to show where that advisory oringinates. What does ' sudo apt upfare ; sudo apt upgrade ' look like ?
[20:07] <Pici> user54541210: please run a    sudo apt update     from a terminal
[20:07] <bunjee> Pici: do not understand ttys, ie.e ctrl-alt-fl...........
[20:08] <Pici> bunjee: press ctrl-alt-F1 on your keyboard to get to your vttys.  use ctrl-alt-F7 to get back to your gui.
[20:08] <Bashing-om> user54541210: Typo apt upfare/update *
[20:08] <seraphina> Bashing-om, Hmm I think I gave that one a try but will bear it in mind since I'm not 100% certain on that.  Though on one or two occasions I tried X did start up and (temporarily) had a non frozen screen which makes me suspect the problems might be after the modesetting happens, isn't modesetting the part where it sets the resolution etc?
[20:08] <dartlen> 1
[20:08] <dartlen> есть кто русский знает?
[20:08] <sourav> +i
[20:08] <dartlen> не могу в виртуалке разрешение нормальное поставить 640 не больше
[20:09] <Pici> !ru | dartlen
[20:09] <Bashing-om> seraphina: "nomodeset" disables DKMS, such that the fall back default graphic's driver is loaded .
[20:10] <user54541210> Bashing-om: ok Ill try that inmediatly give me a sec please
[20:11] <seraphina> Bashing-om, Ok thanks will keep a note of that with my copy of the live CD just incase, got a working installed system on the HDD for now and don't have an immidiate need for the live CD so best not to try and fix what isn't broken for now I guess :)
[20:13] <user54541210> Pici: I just try "sudo apt-get update" and the message keeps being the same
[20:13] <Bashing-om> seraphina: Uh huh ! If it aint broke, do not fix .. 'nomodeset' is a temporrary thing 'till ya get a driver installed .
[20:13] <Jordan_U> bunjee: If you can't get to a terminal currently then please come back from a LiveCD/USB. I *might* be able to help you get your system back without re-installing by using chroot.
[20:15] <Bashing-om> !paste | user54541210 Please show us
[20:15] <seraphina> Bashing-om, Least there is the mini ISO if ever needing to reinstall if I can't get the GPU and the live CD to share the playground heh
[20:15] <Jordan_U> Bashing-om: Small matter of semantics, but nomodeset disables KMS (Kernel Mode Setting), not DKMS (Dynamic Kernel Module Support) (which, since it's almost exclusively used for proprietary drivers, is actually generally used along with nomodeset).
[20:16] <user54541210> Ok, give me a few minutes please
[20:16] <Bashing-om> Jordan_U: Thanks .. yeah .. a matter of mind slippage . seraphina sorry bout that .
[20:16] <streulma> How can I add a custom application to the Default Applications list of Ubuntu ?
[20:18] <seraphina> Bashing-om, Heh no worries actually had to look back and check when it was pointed out seems that I filtered out the extra D automatically when I read it the first time lol
[20:21] <Algebr> I have two harddrives, one is a big 2TB disk and the other is a small 256GB SSD. I accidentally installed / on the 2TB when I wanted it on the 256GB SSD. How can I swap these now from the command line, permanently.
[20:21] <seraphina> Guess because I knew that DKMS had something to do with compiling kernel addon modules like the nvidia driver and x-tables etc which didn't seem relevant to the bootup sequence lol
[20:22] <Algebr> is this a job for fstab?
[20:22] <genii> Algebr: Did you make the partition size on the 2TB smaller than 256GB ?
[20:23] <Algebr> I picked whatever the default installation was
[20:23] <genii> So probably much larger. Rules out using dd
[20:23] <seraphina> That would be a no then, defaults to use the entire disk, easiest would be to just reinstall onto the SSD and go from there.
[20:23] <Algebr> damnit
[20:24] <genii> Algebr: It can be done from a livecd/usb but you're better off just reinstalling, will be faster and less hassle
[20:25] <sruli> how do i stop networking from starting automatically? in /etc/init/ i created networking.override network-manager.override and network-interface.override all have "manual" in it, but the network services still start on boot, what else do i need to do? (ubuntu 15.10)
[20:26] <seraphina> I'm right in thinking that it's not something you could get by with cp -Ra on there yes? With the special files and such to deal with.
[20:26] <nici_> witam
[20:27] <nici_> mam mały problem
[20:27] <nici_> ma ktoś chęć chwilę pogadacc?
[20:27] <genii> sruli: sudo systemctl disable <servicename-here>
[20:27] <genii> !pl | nici_
[20:29] <Bashing-om> user54541210: Still with us ? Pastebinit usage problem ?
[20:29] <sruli> genii: that disables, i dont want to disable just stop it starting automatically, if i disable and then enable i will need to disable again before shutdown
[20:30] <genii> sruli: Thats what disabling it does, prevents it from starting automatically
[20:31] <seraphina> That's what had me deciding to reinstall this box a few weeks back actually, finally after pretty much forever got around to getting myself a 1TB Samsung EVO 850 and making the SSD upgrade heh
[20:31] <user54541210> yes give me a sec
[20:31] <user54541210> sorry
[20:32] <Dr-007> good evening. i cant boot into my fresly installed ubuntu installation. i disabled secured boot in my bios. its an eufi type of ..? bios/bootloader
[20:32] <Dr-007> ive installed it like 4 times now trying different things
[20:32] <user54541210> Bashing-om: give me two minutes, for the message to pop-up
[20:32] <Dr-007> so any pointers would be great
[20:34] <sruli> genii: if i disable it, how do i then start it manually without enabling it so it doesnt start on next boot
[20:35] <seraphina> sruli, service networking start
[20:35] <sruli> seraphina: let me try that
[20:36] <user54541210> Bashing-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/15269765/
[20:38] <juanan> hola a todos
[20:39] <user54541210> Bashing-om: and the pop-window is this
[20:39] <user54541210> Bashing-om: http://imgur.com/VZodwCX
[20:39] <seraphina> sruli, Sorry if you already mentioned this earlier but is there some specific issue you are encountering that makes you want to delay the start of the networking service?
[20:39] <juanan> hola a todos de esta sala
[20:39] <Bashing-om> user54541210: Look'n at your links ..
[20:40] <user54541210> Bashing-om: thank you very much
[20:40] <sruli> "systemctl disable networking" i get error paste.ubuntu.com/15269788
[20:40] <msev-> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnk36OnZpSo another take on "convergence" (lol at the chinglish)
[20:40] <sruli> seraphina: not encountering a issue but only want it to start after i run some scripts
[20:41] <sruli> genii: seraphina: "systemctl disable networking" i get error paste.ubuntu.com/15269788
[20:41] <seraphina> sruli, Are those overrides you tried to make before still present?
[20:42] <sruli> seraphina: no i deleted them
[20:42] <Bashing-om> user54541210: Without the checking what is : Do you fully trust this source " download.01.org " ??
[20:43] <seraphina> Try systemctl daemon-reload, then try the disable command again
[20:43] <user54541210> Bashing-om: I really dont know, I havent touch anything in regard with the download sources. How can I fix this?
[20:45] <sruli> seraphina: same error
[20:45] <Bashing-om> user54541210: Well ,, we can tell the system to trust that source - I will not say it is a good thing to do . Maybe check it out and see what it is ?
[20:46] <user54541210> Bashing-om: mmm I understand. What about setting everything as it came originally, can this be done?
[20:46] <sruli> seraphina: just to make sure i ran "systemctl daemon-reload" i did not replace daemon-reload with anything
[20:46] <seraphina> Yes that's right
[20:46] <seraphina> Hmm, Bashing-om you happen to know the command to check what services are currently enabled in systemctl
[20:47] <sruli> seraphina: still same error
[20:47] <Bashing-om> user54541210: Yeah, we can remove extranious sources .. pastebin ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ; tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' .
[20:47] <seraphina> Just want to be sure since those messages are "only" warnings it doesn't actually say it that it failed give me a minute
[20:48] <sruli>  seraphina: i did test, reboot and service was still runniung
[20:48] <designbybeck_> My Windows will not resize via the corners or Alt resize...they still maximize and minimize, but not resize. Any Ideas?
[20:48] <user54541210> Bashing-om: I just run both commands
[20:48] <user54541210> Bashing-om: do you want to see the output in the terminal?
[20:48] <designbybeck_> well gee...nevermind....now resizing is working
[20:49] <seraphina> sruli, You already tried rebooting since you ran the systemctl disable networking you mean?
[20:49] <sruli> yes
[20:50] <user54541210> Bashing-om: probably due to this problem, my wifi and graphic card are not working properly. For example the wifi symbol at the top right corner does not appear and when I play Dota2 in medium-low resolution I have a lot of fps lag
[20:51] <user54541210> Bashing-om: even after running your commands, the problem still persists
[20:52] <seraphina> sruli, Did you try to systemctl disable NetworkManager also?
[20:52] <Bashing-om> seraphina: Sorry, I am not up to that speed yet with systemd . Presently, do not know of a single command for all running services .
[20:54] <sruli> seraphina: i tried netwrok-manager same error will truy NetworkManager now
[20:55] <Bashing-om> user54541210: Show us the outputs. so we can see what your sources are .. ' pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list ; tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | pastebinit ' . Then we can discuss what should be done .
[20:55] <seraphina> Bashing-om, Yeah I'm in the same boat myself it's output there is not helping me much either though is kinda ambiguous if it did the job or not
[20:55] <sruli> seraphina: that removed systemd symlinks, but i also want to stop the interface from starting, will disabling NetworkManager also disable interface?
[20:55] <user54541210> Bashing-om: perfect give me a sec please
[20:56] <sruli> seraphina: that seemed to work, thanks, will try starting it now and see if its still disabled form starting on next boot
[20:57] <Bashing-om> seraphina: My go-to : https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-systemctl-to-manage-systemd-services-and-units . for starters .
[20:57] <user54541210> Bashing-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/15269865/ and https://paste.ubuntu.com/15269869/ respectively
[20:57] <seraphina> sruli, well if I am right and it is disabling it and only warning about the non default runlevels in the init script then I believe so, there is two things that can configure interfaces in ubuntu if-up-down and network manager those commands should have disabled both at bootup
[20:57] <seraphina> Bashing-om, Thanks
[20:57] <Bashing-om> user54541210: K, be back on a bit ... look'n .
[20:57] <user54541210> Bashing-om: thank you very much
[20:59] <sruli> seraphina: i checked ifconfig and only lo interface was up, i am ok with that, and after starting it, it was still disabled after next reboot, so all good now, thanks for ur help
[20:59] <seraphina> sruli, No problem glad I could help
[20:59] <matt_____> hi i have a question. im trying to install ubuntu server iso file onto virtual box. im stuck at a point where its asking me to "enter an ip address to scan for iSCSI targets" but i cant figure out what to type there?? HELP?
[20:59] <linuxlove> hello
[21:00] <Bad_Dream> d
[21:01] <drac0666> I have made udev rule to start custom script when i plugin my mouse, rule works cuz script is getting runned but part of my script doesnt affect mouse... this part "xinput set-prop "Logitech Gaming Mouse G400" "Device Accel Constant Deceleration" 2.6"
[21:01] <drac0666> when i run script manualy it work perfectly
[21:01] <drac0666> some1 can help me fix this?
[21:01] <Bashing-om> user54541210: " https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/15.10/main " I do trust that source ( Intel ) // However, I know little about Intel graphics, maybe best to await someone with Intel experience to advise on your graphics issue before we make that source permenant and trusted . I see nothing else you would want to remove as a source .
[21:02] <seraphina> sruli, For reference however things like running scripts before certain interfaces are started and similar advanced customisation can be accomplished by if-up-down configuring the network with the /etc/network/interfaces file, check man interfaces
[21:03] <jancoow> Hi there. I'm trying to create a sftp user with limited acces (stay in home dir etc.). It kinda work, but when i set it on the wanted directory (/mnt/hdd1/Websever) i can't connect anymore. But when i set it on /mnt/hdd1 it works and i can navigate to Webserver
[21:03] <user54541210> Bashing-om: perfect and what about the untrusted pop-windows? I can I get rid of it?; cause that windows avoid my laptop to be update
[21:03] <jancoow> I think it's some kind of permission problem but i'm not sure. Does someone have an idea? I'm running ubuntu server
[21:03] <user54541210> Bashing-om: so Im afraid that I can start having vulnerabilities in the short term
[21:04] <Ben64> jancoow: how are you trying to set it
[21:05] <Bashing-om> user54541210: Yeah fixable ... but I suggest to see what can be done about your graphics issue as " not trusted " is from that Intel source " download.01.org/ " .
[21:08] <ChameleonSix> Hello
[21:08] <ChameleonSix> Can anyone help me
[21:08] <jancoow> Ben64: with sudo usermod username -d path/to/dir
[21:08] <ChameleonSix> i just installed ubuntu 15.10
[21:08] <ChameleonSix> it says grub>
[21:08] <ChameleonSix> how do i boot from that
[21:08] <jancoow> ChameleonSix: Isn't ubuntu listed in grub ?
[21:08] <ChameleonSix> hmm no
[21:09] <ChameleonSix> it just says grub >
[21:09] <ChameleonSix> like command line
[21:09] <genii> Jakey3: They have interactive grub command prompt
[21:09] <ChameleonSix> no gui
[21:09] <jancoow> then there is something wrong with your bootloader
[21:09] <ChameleonSix> what do i type in to boot
[21:09] <ChameleonSix> ?
[21:09] <ChameleonSix> no
[21:09] <Bashing-om> user54541210: ' sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver  keyserver.ubuntu.com A496EB03894A3A8D ' Will tell the system to trust that source ..
[21:09] <genii> oops tab fail
[21:09] <ChameleonSix> i switched to legacy
[21:09] <Jakey3> genii, what you referring to?
[21:09] <jancoow> ChameleonSix: long time ago for me, i will search it. Something with root xxx
[21:10] <ChameleonSix> ?
[21:10] <ChameleonSix> how do i fix it
[21:10] <genii> Jakey3: The message was meant for jancoow, sorry
[21:10] <drac0666> I have made udev rule to start custom script when i plugin my mouse, rule works cuz script is getting runned but part of my script doesnt affect mouse... this part "xinput set-prop "Logitech Gaming Mouse G400" "Device Accel Constant Deceleration" 2.6", I have to run script manualy to get it work after replug my mouse. Please help me fix it
[21:10] <linuxlove> who is familiar with android studio here?
[21:10] <ChameleonSix> tab for avalible commands
[21:10] <seraphina> Bashing-om, Thanks for trying to help also guess I'll get a handle on systemd eventually just takes time to relearn everything all over again when the wheels get reinvented heh
[21:10] <jancoow> ChameleonSix: have a look at https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/776643-how-to-rescue-a-non-booting-grub-2-on-linux/
[21:10] <ChameleonSix> gnu grub 0.97
[21:11] <ChameleonSix> can anyone aid me please
[21:11] <ChameleonSix> ?
[21:11] <jancoow> ChameleonSix: Check the link i send. If you booted up you could try reinstalling grub
[21:11] <Jakey3> genii, np
[21:11] <ChameleonSix> ?
[21:11] <Bashing-om> seraphina: That is an understatement . Systemd is what is and will be ,,, we will have to learn it .. just another step on that learning curve .
[21:11] <ChameleonSix> hmm ok
[21:12] <zztopless> Hi everyone, got a quick and (hopefully) straightforward question.  I need a way to point localhost (mostly for use in the browser) to another local IP.   What release did you attempt to install ?
[21:14] <Ben64> jancoow: that doesn't keep someone in their directory
[21:15] <shlant> anyone know a workaround for this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glusterfs/+bug/1382989
[21:16] <shlant> fuse-utils doesn't exist on 14.04
[21:16] <jancoow> Ben64: That's true. For keeping someone in their directory i created a sftp-group and added some configurations to the opensll config file
[21:16] <Mathisen> hello why cant i resize this partition " http://imgur.com/arZCLNR " ??
[21:16] <jancoow> Ben64: but when a set a users home in /mnt/samba/webserver it works, but when i set it in /mnt/samba/webserver/Projects it doesn't work (can't connect anymore)
[21:17] <seraphina> Bashing-om, Very true will get the hang of it eventually but yeah it is like starting from the beginning again, heh then wouldn't be the first time a software shift has left me feeling like a n00b all over again lol
[21:17] <riu> hello
[21:17] <Bashing-om> seraphina: Upstart did me a number .. going from inittab .
[21:18] <Ben64> jancoow: compare permissions between those two directories
[21:19] <propman> Mathisen,  looks like you are using that partition right now.  need to boot a live dvd/usb and then run gparted from it to resize
[21:19] <riu> ich habe keinen ton beim raspberrz pi2 ist das normal
[21:19] <seraphina> Bashing-om, Yeah it is confusing didn't help much when you end up having to deal with an external package that confused the issue by throwing a legacy init script or two in the mix alongside the ubuntu packages using the new system either.
[21:19] <Mathisen> propman, okej. there is no risk of data loss ?
[21:20] <riu> oder konn mir wer helfen
[21:20] <propman> Mathisen, always a risk  backup first
[21:20] <Mathisen> propman, :)
[21:20] <Pici> !de | riu
[21:20] <Bashing-om> Mathisen: I see no free space to expand any partition into AND that lock symbol indicates that the root system is in use . Can not work on partitions that are in use . One works from say a liveDVD .
[21:21] <Mathisen> yeah i will boot live to resize then
[21:22] <Bashing-om> Mathisen: Murphy's Law applies .. make sure important data is backed up .
[21:23] <Mathisen> yep i got backup on external device
[21:23] <jancoow> Ben64: thanks. Chmod 755 and chown root did the trick. Weird that chowning it to the own username doesn't work for some reason.
[21:23] <seraphina> I'll second that, it's usually successful but a simple power failure and all bets are off what state things are left in
[21:23] <Mathisen> it would be anoying doh if i need to re-install after a snall resize
[21:25] <jajajajan> hi, i got following problem: http://i.imgur.com/huSODGc.jpg (strangly cannot make a print screen with that pop-up on), If any1 could tell me whats going on I'd be really happy :)
[21:25] <seraphina> Mathisen, True, though the thing is that simple resize especially with a shrink is not quite that simple there are multiple critical points where the results are pretty much undefined if something interupts things.
[21:26] <Ben64> jajajajan: the error message tells you exactly what the problem is. check the file mentioned
[21:27] <jajajajan> yeah, but how - where can i find it?
[21:27] <Mathisen> okej well lets hope this is my lucky day then :)
[21:27] <Ben64> jajajajan: it tells you exactly where the file is
[21:27] <jajajajan> it starts with list/ and then sth, i dont know the default location where to look for it
[21:27] <maxscam1> hey would creating a bash  function named "link" cause problems for installed programs?
[21:28] <Ben64> jajajajan: it tells you EXACTLY the file location!
[21:28] <seraphina> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/libdvdcss.list it says
[21:28]  * genii twitches
[21:29] <jajajajan> I know that, I dont know how to launch that file/where to look for it anyway
[21:29] <Ben64> you know where to look for it, because thats where it is. open it up in your favorite text editor
[21:29] <jajajajan> should i just type it in terminal?
[21:30] <seraphina> Line 1 starts with desudo looks like you thought you were typing somewhere else to me, lines should start with deb or deb-src in there only depending if it's binary or source packages you want
[21:31] <jajajajan> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/libdvdcss.list: Permission denied
[21:31] <seraphina> Yes because you are trying to execute a text file
[21:32] <k1l> jajajajan: please make a "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/libdvdcss.list" and put that output onto paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here
[21:32] <seraphina> Use your editor like sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list.d/libdvdcss.list
[21:33] <seraphina> k1l, The error is on line one somehow deb got changed into desudo all he needs to do it just change desudo to deb
[21:34] <Ben64> seraphina: not necessarily
[21:34] <jajajajan> k1I http://paste.ubuntu.com/15270075/
[21:35] <Ben64> interesting
[21:35] <jajajajan> should I just delete pirt two letters?
[21:35] <jajajajan> first*
[21:36] <k1l> jajajajan: you see the first line? there is a command that is not supposed to be there
[21:36] <jajajajan> u mean first two letters?
[21:36] <k1l> jajajajan: use "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list.d/libdvdcss.list"  and delete the "desudo apt-get dist-upgra"  on the first line
[21:36] <seraphina> jajajajan, The first line should be like this:
[21:36] <seraphina> deb http://download.videolan.org/pub/debian/stable/ /
[21:36] <k1l> then do a ctrl+x , press yes. then its done
[21:36] <seraphina> The second line is fine
[21:38] <jajajajan> ok its done. should I reboot now?
[21:38] <seraphina> No need
[21:38] <jajajajan> how this first line got there? what i did incorrectly?
[21:38] <k1l> jajajajan: no. run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" in terminal
[21:38] <jajajajan> kk
[21:38] <k1l> this will ship you all the updates you need
[21:39] <jajajajan> when im trying update: E: Type 'desudo' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/libdvdcss.list
[21:40] <seraphina> Ok jajajajan let's try again looks like it was not saved properly
[21:40] <k1l> jajajajan: so you didnt do what i told you.
[21:40] <jajajajan> ok, I got it
[21:40] <jajajajan> I didnt save it correctly, now its ok
[21:40]  * genii ponders "desudo"
[21:41] <adrian_1908> desudo is for Japanese mirrors only :p
[21:41] <ash_workz> what's the best channel to talk about cron jobs and general server config?
[21:42] <jajajajan> So, if u dont mind telling me - what I did incorrectl this bug appeard?
[21:42] <seraphina> You successfully manage to run the "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" command now?
[21:42] <jajajajan> yeah its done
[21:42] <jajajajan> but this red icon still appars on the upper bar
[21:42] <Ben64> jajajajan: did you actually run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" ???
[21:42] <k1l> jajajajan: you messed up a command. i think a command having "echo" in it. that wrote that mess into the file (guessing you just created that repo)
[21:42] <seraphina> jajajajan, It looks like when you were creating/editing that file you got yourself a bit lost and thought you were typing into your command line but you were still in the file.
[21:43] <Bashing-om> jajajajan: What releae are you running .. as that PPA does not support the latest ubuntu releases  ?
[21:43] <seraphina> Or possibly yeah a slip up typing the command
[21:43] <jajajajan> Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[21:44] <jajajajan> yes, i did both of them
[21:44] <Bashing-om> jajajajan: Good, it is supported .
[21:44] <jajajajan> Bashing-om: nice to hear that
[21:45] <jajajajan> im goin to reboot maybe it will disappear
[21:45] <seraphina> k1l, Not sure about the echo command actually unless they passwd root or did sudo -i/s or something shouldn't have been writable by shell redirection
[21:45] <ash_workz> like, I think right now we have cron process a mail queue; I was just sorta wondering if there was some reasonable way to process mail when it hits the server... but Idk
[21:46] <Ben64> seraphina: echo blah | sudo tee /dev/null
[21:46] <k1l> seraphina: i know some howtos who create that using echo blah | sudo tee /path/to/file. so some copy and paste erorrs and there you go
[21:47] <seraphina> Hmm, true there
[21:47] <jajajajan> it's all right now, thank you all :) Im going to be back for sure cos I am one hopeless noob
[21:47] <k1l> and i dont know of a setup where a apt-get dist-upgrade could end up there :)
[21:48] <k1l> jajajajan: just pay some more attention when you using sudo. that will help a lot :)
[21:48] <jajajajan> k1l: thx ;>
[21:48] <seraphina> Though that would seem like a guide written by someone asking for trouble when dealing with a multiline file anyway though that's not to say every poster on the internet actually thinks that through I guess.
[21:49] <k1l> seraphina: or youtube video makers :/
[21:49] <seraphina> ^^^ What k1l, I've managed to make a few right doozeys myself typing a command wrong lol
[21:50] <seraphina> what k1l said even
[21:50] <jancoow> Ugh. Could someone help me with some permission problems. When i do a chmod 755 on a dir, i can connect with sftp and i can create files / folders. But i can not create files/folders over a samba share. However, when i do chmod 777 i can create folders/files on a samba share, but i can't connect with sftp ..
[21:50] <seraphina> Managing to rewrite all the perms recursively on lib was a genius one rolls eyes
[21:52] <seraphina> jancoow, Are we talking about the same directory here?
[21:52] <jancoow> seraphina: yes!
[21:52] <EriC^^> doesn't make sense
[21:53] <jancoow> seraphina: also when i do a chmod 777 on a subdirectory i can't connect with sftp anymore
[21:54] <seraphina> Right, that is because most FTPd's wont serve access to a directory with such insecure perms it is really a very bad idea to do that to be honest.
[21:54] <seraphina> Is there some reason that you need to have both servers using the exact same directory?
[21:57] <jancoow> well; some more explanation about the situation. I've a webserver with several directories. For a developing group i need a sftp user which can upload to a specific directory on the webserver. Let's say /mnt/hdd1/webserver/Projects/specificperson . But locally i work on my samba share in /mnt/hdd1/webserver/Projects. But that's impossible now because i can't create any directories etc.
[21:57] <jancoow> i also don't get it why chmod 777 shouldn't work. It should be all permissions right ?
[21:58] <geirha> 777 never solves anything
[21:58] <seraphina> Yes however it is a sledgehammer solution which is dangerous
[21:58] <jancoow> what should you suggest?
[21:59] <seraphina> It completely defeats the purpose of security measures like having servers dropping privilages to their own individual users etc is why it's not recommended since even the smallest service can be made to write there.
[21:59] <seraphina> Anyways, that said if both services really must access the same directories you would be better to make a group for it.
[22:00] <seraphina> Have the two servers use their individual user accounts but a shared group say call it fileservers
[22:00] <seraphina> Or whatever
[22:01] <jancoow> mm that looks like a good solution
[22:02] <Live150> Hello I am trying to setup SSH on ubuntu 14.04 trusty Kernel 3.16.0-55 and so far I can ssh into the computer using the local IP but when I try to do external IP and port the terminal responds: connection refused I have UFW and port forwarding set up. Whatesle could it be?
[22:02] <geirha> then you can use mode 2775
[22:02] <seraphina> It's still not ideal security wise since you give potential attackers two lots of code to find some exploit in to get rw access to those directories but it's safer than opening it to the world
[22:02] <ouroumov_> Live150, you're behind a router?
[22:03] <Live150> yeah and the router is port forwarding using the specific port.
[22:03] <ouroumov_> oh Live150 sorry I hadn't seen the "port forwarding" bit
[22:03] <seraphina> If it was me I would probably just set up the FTP on the web directories and use FTP when you need to access those yourself too but is ultimately your decision how you want to proceed :)
[22:04] <jancoow> seraphina: i find ftp a little bit insecure :)
[22:04] <MonkeyDust> Live150  first try with ufw disabled, to find out if ssh works to the ip address
[22:04] <ouroumov_> Live150, you have added an UFW rule for inbound traffic on 22 I take it?
[22:04] <seraphina> Live150, Where are you trying to test the external IP from please?
[22:05] <jancoow> seraphina: problem is that i now suddenly have no write/delte permissions with chmod 755.. I'm getting really confused. What do you think is the normal permissions to just read and write files / directories ?
[22:05] <Live150> Terminal on my laptop trying to simulate SSH into my desktop from remote network using my public IP.
[22:05] <seraphina> jancoow, Are you trying to use the shared group method?
[22:06] <k1l> Live150: inside the network its not working that way
[22:07] <jancoow> seraphina: i first wanna let it work for only the sftp user; after that also the samba user :)
[22:07] <Live150> So it should work even though I can't simulate it by using the external IP?
[22:07] <seraphina> Live150, You need to test from outside the NAT router because it is not looking to do NAT for traffic coming from you LAN and back into your LAN
[22:08] <Live150> Ah ok
[22:08] <Live150> I see.
[22:08] <k1l> Live150: test from a phone or such
[22:08] <seraphina> It does NAT on traffic going through the router ie NET -> LAN or LAN -> NET not LAN -> LAN
[22:09] <seraphina> Yeah phone should work that is using the phones cellular data though not wifi :)
[22:09] <Live150> Trying it now. :P
[22:09] <Volund> Uuuuuugh. This sound card's line in is apparently crap.
[22:10] <seraphina> jancoow, Ok who currently is the user and group that owns the directory?
[22:10] <seraphina> ls -l dir
[22:11] <Live150> Weird still timed out....
[22:12] <jancoow> seraphina: drwxr-sr-x  4 www-data www-data
[22:12] <Live150> is there anything I need to adjust in the sshd_config file?
[22:12] <Live150> all I changed was the Port on which I am hosting the SSH
[22:13] <seraphina> Live150, Assuming that you are using the correct IP address etc a timeout would indicate a firewall issue usually
[22:13] <seraphina> If SSHd wasn't accepting the connection on an unfirewalled port you would get connection refused instead
[22:14] <seraphina> Timeout means that the packet was actively dropped most likely
[22:14] <k1l> did you restart the sshd after changing settings in sshd config?
[22:14] <puliz> Hello.I am running apache server. But it's serving files from /var/www/html/index.html. How can I make it serve from my home directory?
[22:14] <seraphina> jancoow, Ok, and your FTP server is configured to use what user and group?
[22:15] <Volund> So I'm trying to link the Line In on my Lenovo TS140 (a server box) to a monitor's audio out. I use pactl load-module module-loopback to listen to the line in on my headphones (I'm trying to link my PS3 through it) but while I can hear the PS3, I'm bombarded by staticy junk. Is this a setting problem or more likely just shitty audio card? 'cuz I know this worked fine when Ubuntu was...
[22:15] <Volund> ...installed on my gaming rig
[22:15] <riceandbeans> is there a way to redirect stderr and stdout to a file AND have stderr ONLY to console?
[22:17] <Live150> restart sshd?
[22:17] <k1l> Live150: you need to restart the ssh service on the server for the changes to take effect
[22:17] <jancoow> seraphina: projectgroepa6 . They are also in the sftp group so the user can't go out of his home directory Match Group sftp ChrootDirectory %h  ForceCommand internal-sftp   AllowTcpForwarding no
[22:18] <seraphina> riceandbeans, I think command >file 2>&1 | tee file
[22:18] <k1l> Live150: service ssh restart
[22:18] <k1l> Live150: with sudo in front
[22:19] <Guest36545> hello
[22:19] <gr33nbits> heias
[22:19] <seraphina> Ok, in that case change the owner of the directory to www-data.projectgroup6 and set the directory permissions to 775
[22:19] <seraphina> That will give rw access to the webserver and members of projectgroup6
[22:20] <Live150> Well at least now it prompted me for my username and says connecting. :/
[22:20] <Guest36545> i have bought a domain and the company that bought this to me said we just say domain and we are not response for dns what should i do?
[22:20] <jhave> Hello
[22:20] <trunk_monkey> Guest36545: not really an ubuntu question man, sory
[22:21] <jhave> How do i find what the default kernel version is in 14.04 ?
[22:21] <seraphina> If the webserver doesn't need to be writing files you could use 575 to avoid giving the webserver access to do things it need not be doing, principle of least privilage is a good idea :)
[22:21] <Guest36545> i need to configure with bind on ubuntu 15.10 and i have nothing to configure
[22:21] <jancoow> seraphina: oke well when i do sudo chown www-data:projectgroepa6 foldername and chmod 755 foldername i can't connect with sftp anymore
[22:22] <Guest36545> what should i do?
[22:22] <nakanut> jhave: think it is 3.19
[22:22] <nacc_> nakanut: i think jhave is gone :)
[22:22] <nacc_> nakanut: and it depends, 14.04 is 3.13 based, but you can add hwe kernels
[22:23] <seraphina> jancoow, Just to check do you have the FTP server configured in it's config file to use the user and group of the logged in user?
[22:23] <jancoow> seraphina: well i'm using sftp so it's the normal ssh client
[22:23] <Ben64> Guest36545: you should join ##networking and ask your networking questions there
[22:24] <nakanut> nacc_: sorry, i was thinking 15.04
[22:25] <Live150> GOT IT.
[22:25] <Live150> thanks a lot guys. :D
[22:25] <Bray90820> EriC^^: You around?
[22:25] <EriC^^> ya
[22:25] <EriC^^> what's up?
[22:25] <seraphina> jancoow, Yes but I am talking about the FTP server you are running on the server side, not sure which you are using but some ftp servers can be configured to use the servers own user/group or the user/group of the authenticated user.
[22:25] <Bray90820> What should be our next move in reading the script
[22:26] <fathom> Hello, when I boot my computer I get a message that there is something wrong with my OS and offers to send a bug report, but it does not let me view what the report is. Moreover, my computer allows updates without being root. Is this a sign of a compromised OS?
[22:26] <seraphina> Live150, Great, glad it's working :)
[22:27] <Bray90820> EriC^^: what should be our next move in reading the script
[22:28] <EriC^^> Bray90820: strace it
[22:28] <jancoow> seraphina: well i'm not running a ftp server :)
[22:28] <jancoow> i'm running the normal ssh client
[22:28] <jancoow> for Sftp
[22:28] <jancoow> but finally, i found a workaround. Creating a directory in that directory with chmod 755 i can create files -.-"
[22:28] <Bray90820> EriC^^: Here is the output of that
[22:28] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw/KJeSKgUZ
[22:29] <seraphina> Oh, sorry my mistake am used to sftp as FTP protocol over an encrypted link not secure copy via SSH
[22:29] <jancoow> oh :)
[22:31] <seraphina> Yeah that is another way of going about it jancoow I didn't suggest that at first as I was under the impression that you required it to be in the main directory not a subdirectory heh
[22:32] <seraphina> fathom, I have sometimes known the apport dialog for come up like a little sliver of a title bar with just the x button to close pretty sure it's just a bug there.
[22:32] <Bray90820> eam: Is there anything we can do with that information
[22:33] <Bray90820> Sorry wrong ping
[22:33] <Bray90820> EriC^^:
[22:33] <ouroumov_> fathom, do you have files in the /var/crash folder?
[22:33] <EriC^^> Bray90820: are you trying to recreate it?
[22:34] <fathom> ouroumov_, No..nothing there
[22:34] <fathom> may just need to reinstall
[22:34] <fathom> Every couple of months ubuntu bugs out
[22:34] <seraphina> fathom, As for the updates installing part did you actually go through the entire update process, it should ask you for your user password before actually proceeding with the installation itself, that will only work for users that are authorised to use sudo though regular users are not allowed.
[22:35] <fathom> seraphina, Exactly
[22:35] <fathom> so what's up with this?
[22:35] <seraphina> You did not get asked for your password?
[22:35] <fathom> negative
[22:35] <Bray90820> EriC^^: Yes
[22:36] <jancoow> seraphina: well, it isn't really a problem, only the url is getting somewhat longer :). But i really need to learn more about linux permissions because all my samba mounts are a really mess
[22:36] <Bray90820> EriC^^: : Yes I am trying to recreate the script
[22:36] <jancoow> but really thanks for the help!
[22:36] <fathom> buggy
[22:37] <seraphina> jancoow, Give me a sec :)
[22:37] <seraphina> fathom, are you sure that you did not accept the default to allow security updates to happen automatically that might be the reason.
[22:38] <django_> hey all
[22:38] <django_> which one of these is for ubuntu 14.04: https://www.citrix.com/downloads/citrix-receiver/linux/receiver-for-linux-latest.html
[22:38] <fathom> That would be a pretty explicit command, wouldn't it?
[22:38] <fathom> seraphina, It's not like a windows update that decides for you
[22:38] <fathom> seraphina, Like telemetry
[22:39] <fathom> seraphina, So, no, I have not explicitly requested that users do changes to my system
[22:39] <EriC^^> Bray90820: where'd you get it from?
[22:40] <ouroumov_> fathom, so reinstall, use an LTS version
[22:40] <EriC^^> Bray90820: looks pretty intricate, checks if the binaries are there for ssh and rsync etc, then uses rsync to backup and other stuff too
[22:40] <fathom> ouroumov_, it IS LTS
[22:40] <fathom> buggy
[22:40] <ouroumov_> Then keep doing that. :o
[22:40] <Bray90820> EriC^^: If you mean where did i get the script someone on IRC created it for me back one early December
[22:40] <ouroumov_> What flavor is it fathom ?
[22:40] <fathom> buggy bugy buggy
[22:40] <fathom> ubuntu
[22:41] <ouroumov_> Yeah but what version of it fathom ?
[22:41] <fathom> 14.04
[22:41] <ouroumov_> Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu MATE, Kyulin ?
[22:41] <k1l> fathom: no. its not a bug and its not compromised
[22:41] <EriC^^> Bray90820: have someone create another, disassembling it would be difficult
[22:42] <fathom> (fathom hits ouroumov_ over the head) UBUNTU! UBUNTU! UBUNTU!
[22:42] <EriC^^> Bray90820: do you just want to modify part of it?
[22:42] <EriC^^> like where it saves to?
[22:42] <fathom> buggy
[22:42] <seraphina> I know that mine has not asked for the password when it was a critical security update but I didn't deselect security updates for software that I'd selected to be installed.  Though 90% of updates are optional and need a password so not sure.
[22:43] <Bray90820> EriC^^: I am adding a new hard drive to my server and I just wanna see if it even needs to be modified
[22:43]  * seraphina shakes head
[22:43] <k1l> fathom: look into /var/crash
[22:43] <k1l> m(
[22:43] <ouroumov_> k1l, I tired that already
[22:43] <seraphina> jancoow, Sorry about that thanks for waiting a minute
[22:43] <ouroumov_> tried *
[22:44] <EriC^^> Bray90820: looks like it uses the mount point to copy stuff
[22:44] <seraphina> jancoow, Was just going to suggest one option if you wanted the shorter URL would be to place a directory outside of the /var/www or whatever directory and use a bind mount to make it appear there too.
[22:45] <tgm4883> ouroumov_: then insist. It's the correct answer
[22:45] <nacc_> k1l: ouroumov_: fathom responded earlier, saying nothing was in /var/crash
[22:45] <nacc_> no idea if that's true
[22:46] <Bray90820> EriC^^: So from what you can tell if I replaced one of my 2TB hard drives with a 4TB hard drive  and kept the same mount point the script would still run just fine?
[22:46] <seraphina> Heh, no clue seems like that part of his questions was satisfied however since he never mentioned it again after that he was trying to work out why it was possible to install a update without a password.
[22:47] <EriC^^> Bray90820: yeah, as far as i can tell
[22:48] <seraphina> Really think that they probably have the security updates option on or something but they didn't appear to be open to checking lol
[22:49] <Bray90820> EriC^^: Same if I were to update ubuntu when the LTS comes out in April?
[22:49] <EriC^^> yeah
[22:49]  * seraphina shrugs, "Guess the answer was incompatible with what they wanted the answer to be"
[22:50] <Bray90820> EriC^^: Thanks
[22:50] <Bray90820> That was actually a lot of help
[22:50] <Bray90820> You made me realize the script wasn't even running to begin with
[22:52] <EriC^^> Bray90820: no problem
[22:54] <seraphina> If there is any existing data under the mount point you want to keep there can mount the new device on a temporary mount point and copy it over first
[22:57] <jancoow> seraphina: well that's really a good idea. Just add a different sub-domain to a apache folder
[22:57] <seraphina> jancoow, That would be another option too :)
[22:59] <seraphina> Though actually when I mentioned bind mounts that wasn't the way I was thinking there is a command mount directory1 -obind directory2, makes all files and folders under directory1 also appear under directory2 like they are aliases for the same thing.
[23:01] <seraphina> Note that does not include other mountpoints that exist under directory1 those wont be visible under directory2 if you have any and want those to be included need to use -orbind instead
[23:03] <jancoow> ah nice! :)_
[23:04] <jancoow> well, again, really thanks for the help seraphina
[23:04] <max12345> hello, I've just set up a vnc server and associated stuff. I can connect fine with IP but not with my domain name. Any ideas?
[23:04] <jancoow> i've to go. Good night!
[23:04] <seraphina> Your thinking is easier in this case though jancoow to be honest so just sharing that for future reference, there is a few other bind mounts too so check out man mount
[23:04] <Ben64> max12345: the domain name doesn't point to the ip?
[23:04] <seraphina> Nite, take care :)
[23:05] <daftykins> max12345: does it resolve to an internal or external IP...
[23:05] <jancoow> well, i will try it out in the feature, i will defenitly learn something from that :)
[23:05] <Bray90820> EriC^^: one more question
[23:05] <jancoow> bye bye
[23:05] <Bray90820> What format was that backup file
[23:05] <max12345> Ben64: I think you're right... something must have changed.
[23:06] <max12345> derp
[23:06] <max12345> thanks
[23:07] <seraphina> max12345, Can always check using the host command for a simple IP check or dig will give a bit more detail if you need it, just to make sure that it is resolving to the address you expect.
[23:08] <daftykins> max12345: also VNC over the internet... oh dear.
[23:09] <max12345> daftykins: is that bad?
[23:09] <adeon_> max12345  you should tunnel over SSH
[23:10] <adeon_> if you dont mind everyone listening on a phonecall, i supposed the same can be said if you dont mind VNC over the internet.
[23:11] <seraphina> Yeah, VNC isn't the most secure of protocols not encrypted and doesn't have secure authentication either so it's safer to use SSH to the remote machine then VNC to it from localhost.
[23:12] <seraphina> Though I would skip the VNC part if you are connecting from a linux machine and set up x forwarding over SSH instead, only really need the added baggage if using a less capable client system that doesn't support such things heh
[23:12] <daftykins> max12345: plaintext passwords, you connect from an internet cafe... someone else can connect in too
[23:12] <daftykins> really bad move
[23:13] <almark> how about  vnc over a ssh link?
[23:13] <Ben64> that works
[23:13] <Ben64> x forwarding is kinda slow, in my experience
[23:14] <seraphina> Ben64, depends on the bandwidth at both ends of the link of course and whether or not you take advantage of the compression option of SSH if the bandwidth at either end is less than ideal.
[23:15] <Ben64> still pretty laggy...
[23:16] <seraphina> I remember it being like forever ago when I had an early adopter ADSL link on one end but then so was VNC to be fair.  Can't say it's something I've noticed when using a modern broadband connection though personally.
[23:17] <pingwindyktator> hello, can someone tell me how to install gcc 6? is downloading and compiling source code the only way?
[23:18] <Ben64> pingwindyktator: yep, but thats unsupported and likely to break everything
[23:18] <pingwindyktator> Ben64 even if I wont change alternatives?
[23:19] <Ben64> gcc6 isn't even released yet
[23:19] <pingwindyktator> it is
[23:19] <max12345> alright, alright I'll use ssh in the future :P
[23:20] <wael> ciao
[23:22] <seraphina> max12345, Is the best bet, I would also recommend having the VNC server bind to localhost if you are going to do that and connect using ssh -L [localport]:localhost:[vncserverport] and just point your vncclient to localport on localhost on your client machine.
[23:23] <seraphina> That way nobody can remotely take a crack at hacking the VNC server only way to reach it is by authenticating through SSH first and tunnelling.
[23:23] <nacc_> pingwindyktator: i think release for gcc is mid-april
[23:23] <nacc_> pingwindyktator: it's currently in stage4?
[23:24] <pingwindyktator> nacc_ stage3 iirc
[23:24] <seraphina> After all is no sense exposing a server to the internet if the authorised user of said server is only connecting via an SSH tunnel, only purpose that serves is to serve hackers xD
[23:25] <nacc_> pingwindyktator: not according to https://gcc.gnu.org/develop.html
[23:25] <nacc_> pingwindyktator: but regardless, that's not released yet
[23:25] <nacc_> pingwindyktator: as Ben64 said and you denied
[23:25] <seraphina> wb again :)
[23:26] <max12345> seraphina: I don't think I got what you mean by localport/localhost.
[23:29] <seraphina> Ok so if you for example type ssh user@remotehost -L 8999:localhost:9000 what happens ssh connects to the SSH server at remotehost then it makes a connection to localhost:9000 on the remote machine.  Finally it opens a listening port on localhost:8999 on the client machine which acts as a tunnel to the service at localhost:9000 on the SSH server machine
[23:30] <seraphina> Thus the remote service listening on 9000 would only ever need to accept connections from localhost and the user can connect to it from anywhere using SSH :)
[23:34] <seraphina> Hoping that I explained it better that time lol
[23:34] <max12345> seraphina: hehe, but doesn't that just open another port?
[23:35] <seraphina> No the two ports are on different ends of the connection
[23:36] <seraphina> Basically port localhost:8999 on the machine you are sitting down at becomes a secure encrypted proxy to localhost:9000 on the machine you are ssh'ing into
[23:37] <seraphina> So only the SSH server at the far end need to accept connections from the internet the VNC server only gets the connection from the SSH server.
[23:38] <max12345> ah ok, so everything would go over the ssh and be secure
[23:38] <seraphina> Right exactly
[23:38] <adeon_> You might also need to enable gateway ports on the ssh local machine
[23:38] <max12345> and nobody else could even reach the listening thing because they#d have to enter my ssh connection to do that
[23:38] <adeon_> max12345, You might also need to enable gateway ports on the ssh local machine
[23:38] <seraphina> Precisely
[23:40] <max12345> Thank you!
[23:40] <max12345> :)
[23:41] <adeon_> max12345, you can loop back any port that way, just not VNC. so for example you can loop back HTTP 80, to 8000 on that local machine should you need that port.
[23:44] <max12345> hm I can see how that would be useful.
[23:44] <seraphina> max12345, Just for reference it even works to use the SSH connection to tunnel a port on another machine back over the SSH connection to you something like say ssh user@remotehost -L 8000:<IP_ADDRESS>:80 would let you access the webserver of a server on your local lan remotely via the secure connection.
[23:45] <seraphina> ie some webserver on your home network while you are away somewhere else
[23:46] <daftykins> you don't need to do that at all.
[23:46] <daftykins> SOCKS proxy over SSH, then *any* web source is accessible at the other end
[23:48] <seraphina> That's true though -L works well enough if you just want to tunnel to a single endpoint from the remote SSH server.
[23:48] <daftykins> making the task so specific though strikes me as a waste of time
[23:51] <seraphina> I guess, force of habit I tend to use -L to just tunnel to some given single socket if that's all I happen to need at the time, generally am more in the habit of using the socks proxy when pretty much wanting to use the server like it were a VPN server lol
[23:52] <MegaManSec> does anybody know the program that is used for popup notifications in ubuntu?
[23:52] <MegaManSec> e.g. changing songs in banshee
[23:52] <seraphina> Granted it's not a VPN but for any application that speaks SOCKS it's good as
[23:52] <mattlach> Hey, I have a quick Xenial question, if anyone is good with it.
[23:52] <pilne> has there been an "official non-hacky" fix to getting steam working in 15.10? and/or will 16.04 be seamless?
[23:53] <mattlach> If I were to install the Xenial Server beta1, should it cleanly upgrade to the final release once released?
[23:54] <mattlach> And is this just through apt, or would it be a do_dist_upgrade kind of thing?
[23:54] <solido232>  /server irc.irc-hispano.org
[23:54] <seraphina> MegaManSec, If I recall it's called notifyOSD
[23:54] <k1l> !final | mattlach
[23:54] <k1l> mattlach: but server and development release is not a good combination
[23:55] <mattlach> @K1l:  Much obliged!
[23:55] <steveiebur> Which Linux Distro for a laptop with Pentium 4 at 2.x GHz and 1GB ram and 60GB hard drive?
[23:55] <k1l> steveiebur: Xubuntu or even Lubuntu
[23:55] <seraphina> In case the reason for your question is because you are looking to send your own custom pop up notices check the notify-send command
[23:56] <MegaManSec> ty seraphina
[23:56] <pilne> ubuntu mate is relatively light, but probably a bit heavy for a p4
[23:57] <steveiebur> k1l: And that would run?  I did a tour on Linux.com, found so many tiny distros, but haven't been able to download and install them
[23:57] <pilne> i'd go for lubuntu honestly, maybe even something smaller that isn't ubuntu based.
[23:57] <steveiebur> pilne: Any ideas on something really light?
[23:57] <seraphina> Yeah thus using the Xubuntu or Lubuntu variants, they use lightweight window managers
[23:57] <k1l> steveiebur: yes. xubuntu is somewhat lighter than the other big desktops. but Lubuntu is made for old and slow hardware
[23:58] <mattlach> stevie:  I agree with others.  Lubuntu is probably your best bet on that hardware.    There are other non-ubuntu distributions that work too, but since it is based on ubuntu, you'll have an easier time getting everything working.   The software catalogue and hardware support is huge
[23:58] <django_> hey all im tryng to install scapy.py
[23:58] <django_> it says to do: cd /tmp then: wget scapy.net then: unzip scapy-latest.zip
[23:58] <daftykins> you don't really install python scripts
[23:58] <pilne> honestly, i've tried a bunch of tiny distros, and lubuntu was/is the easiest to work with if you don't have a ton of experience with editing config files by hand.
[23:58] <steveiebur> k1l: And that would turn faster than the WinXP that my friend had on it?
[23:58] <django_> i get an error:
[23:58] <django_> "unzip:  cannot find or open scapy-latest.zip, scapy-latest.zip.zip or scapy-latest.zip.ZIP."
[23:59] <daftykins> django_: you can't "wget scapy.net" - that needs to be a path to the exact file.
[23:59] <django_> ohh
[23:59] <django_> im an idiot
[23:59] <pilne> xp sp3 got pretty bloated, so i would say that almost without a doubt lubuntu would run better
[23:59] <k1l> steveiebur: lubuntu is the most lightweight ubuntu version
[23:59] <daftykins> django_: yeah, the file doesn't exist... so shockingly it won't be there
[23:59] <steveiebur> pilne: Gonna try that, then. But it will be happy with 1GB RAM?
[23:59] <steveiebur> pilne: Like using the desktop lxde?