[02:58] <drewzf> Okay, I've installed emerald and the outside of my windows look sleek, but in an ubuntu environment what do I use to configure the interior of my windows?
[02:58] <VJain> Hi, I'm trying to partition my main drive in Ubuntu... but using GParted, I see a lock next to the main HDD and I can't do anything to it. How can i fix this?
[02:58] <ari_stress> Wifi-Phreak: an epson stylus c87, it was ok with 7.04
[02:58] <macd> sdondley, http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2007/09/10/29517.aspx  that is a link to the remastered ISO for dells.
[02:58] <Dr_willis> VJain,  you booted your installed system? or is this from the install/live cd?
[02:59] <sdondley> macd, I used the ubuntu disk that came with the dell machine
[02:59] <stdin> VJain: no part of the disk can be in use if you want to partition it, so no part can be mounted
[02:59] <VJain> I'm using my installed system
[02:59] <stdin> VJain: use the live cd
[02:59] <VJain> thanks
[02:59] <VJain> I'll do that now
[02:59] <sdondley> macd, so I still need the iso, then?
[02:59] <ghorman> is there a topdesk effect in compiz?
[02:59] <macd> sdondley, this is a different ISO
[02:59] <nanbudh> Wifi-Phreak:: yes Gutsy is its very unstable and has corrupted graphics on my athlon 64 machine, asus motherboard, sata HDD. anyone having similar probls?
[02:59] <sdondley> macd, ok. but, damn, they should could make this shit easier
[03:00] <macd> sdondley, well, at the time you bought yours I imagine the ISO wasnt done yet
[03:00] <DaemonXI> What do you guys think about Mint Linux?
[03:00] <crdlb> ghorman: what is that?
[03:00] <macd> sdondley, and don't forget, you can contact Dell support ;)
[03:00] <nanbudh> Wifi-Phreak:: it freezes a lot and all i can do is reboot. a search on forums tell me that many ppl are having the same probs
[03:00] <sdondley> I mean, why the doesn't dell ship a disk with the drivers? I went with dell precisely so I would have to spend 5 to 6 hours worrying about drivers and driver configs but it happened anyway
[03:00] <Dr_willis> DaemonXI,  it works.. its ok..but wth each new release of ubuntu, i see less and less need for the mint linux  stuff.
[03:00] <ghorman> it puts all you open apps in a stack and you scroll thru them
[03:00] <sdondley> macd, well, not on t-day
[03:00] <macd> DaemonXI, thats more for #ubuntu-offtopic, this is more for ubuntu support.
[03:01] <DaemonXI> Oh, okay. Sorry :)
[03:01] <macd> no worries :)
[03:01] <ghorman> here is a link to some screenshots - http://www.otakusoftware.com/topdesk/index.html#screenshots
[03:01] <sdondley> macd, bought the inspiron last week, so it should have had the iso dated sept 10 according to the link
[03:02] <sjovan> hey, my landlord restarted the router and some portfwd got stopped, so i need some help setting up my ssh client with VNC so that i can use firefox or something to open up the ports again on the router. can maby some one help me out?
[03:02] <macd> sdondley, no telling really, I have a d530 (which is pretty much the same) and I used that ISO to install ubuntu on it, and it worked with my wifi.
[03:02] <sdondley> macd, you know if that iso has drivers for the nvidia card, that's what got me in the mess in the first place, trying to change the screen res and instllaing the driver
[03:02] <Wifi-Phreak> ari_stress What do you like about 7.10 the most?
[03:02] <drewzf> How do I change my icons, buttons, etc in a typical ubuntu install?
[03:02] <ratttts> hey people what do you type in the terminal to completely remove an installed software?
[03:03] <sdondley> macd, and then dell ships cds with windows drivers, wtf?
[03:03] <guhhh> leo_rockw, buttercups what can i try? fsck.reiserfs --rebuild-tree -S /dev/sda3 (per example) ?
[03:03] <Wifi-Phreak> Shit... I want to downgrade!
[03:03] <leo_rockw> ratttts: sudo apt-get purge app
[03:03] <macd> the dell linux wiki says to follow the wiki for isntalling the nvidia drivers, since its a restricted driver.
[03:03] <sjovan> leo_rockw it's in fact --purge
[03:04] <ghorman> dell linux support is weak
[03:04] <ratttts> thanx
[03:04] <leo_rockw> sjovan: i tried it today with purge only and it worked
[03:04] <sdondley> macd, ok, I'll check out that wiki
[03:04] <sjovan> oh?
[03:04] <sjovan> cool
[03:04] <sjovan> something new or?
[03:04] <leo_rockw> sjovan: i used to do remove --purge all the time
[03:04] <adiv> bye :)
[03:04] <macd> http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Tech/Video/nVidia
[03:04] <thinsoldier> anyone here do web development?
[03:04] <macd> there ya go sdondley
[03:04] <leo_rockw> sjovan: just today i did purge (by mistake) and it worked
[03:04] <sdondley> thanks, bro
[03:04] <sjovan> macd: the compiz faq got a realy good tut for installing nvidia drivers. just google up the compiz site
[03:05] <CubeXombi> has anyone else experienced less than mediocre 3D performance using the open source ATI drivers in Gutsy.
[03:05] <thinsoldier> where are the files I see when I access http://localhost
[03:05] <macd> sjovan, and the dell site does too ;)
[03:05] <leo_rockw> guhhh: idk i let fsck do its magic on its own
[03:05] <PDET> Hi,everyone!
[03:05] <Dr_willis> CubeXombi,  im suprised you get any 3d preformance. :)
[03:05] <ghorman> i had to get rid of my ATI and go nvidia for linux support
[03:05] <guhhh> leo_rockw: fsck by default didnt solve :(
[03:05] <PDET> Who knows freelotto?
[03:05] <sjovan> macd: ah, k :)
[03:06] <PDET> What is freelotto?
[03:06] <macd> ghorman, and now ATI releases the full hardware spec to F/OSS devs ;P
[03:06] <sdondley> macd, you save me about 2 hours of googling and searching. Thanks!
[03:06] <CubeXombi> Dr_willis in feisty it was usable 40fps in tremulous, now I'm luky to get 10,
[03:06] <leo_rockw> guhhh: i meant "i never touch fsck, the only time it runs is on boot after 30 boots"
[03:06] <macd> sdondley, no worries mate
[03:06] <thinsoldier> is there a "Find" feature in ubuntu?
[03:06] <ghorman> I now, its too bad is about $500 to late :0
[03:06] <Dr_willis> CubeXombi,  disable compiz for a start perhaps? assumng its enabled.
[03:06] <macd> thinsoldier, load up a console, and type 'man find', or use desktop search.
[03:07] <Dr_willis> thinsoldier,  the 'locate' command is also very nice.
[03:07] <thinsoldier> where is desktop search?
[03:07] <leo_rockw> ghorman: yeah, the new amd/ati drivers will be a great improvement (the actual ones are a great improvement too compared to the previous ones)
[03:07] <macd> thinsoldier, right click on your panel at the top, and hit add applet, then add it.
[03:07] <ratttts> does amarok have good visualizations? i mean, visualizations suck, but they are pretty interesting to look at when you are high
[03:07] <ghorman> anyone know the effect to make your programs stand out when rotating your cube desktop?
[03:07] <macd> thinsoldier, its called "Search for files"
[03:08] <macd> !ohmy ratttts
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohmy ratttts - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <macd> heh
[03:08] <macd> !ohmy | ratttts
[03:08] <ubotu> ratttts: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:08] <FU_DICK> macd
[03:08] <FU_DICK> i know you
[03:08] <CubeXombi> Dr_willis, yup, though Imay complete remove it, I like it, but realisticallly this  is a 4 yearold laptop. I can't work majic
[03:08] <ratttts> lol ok
[03:08] <FU_DICK> dawg
[03:08] <macd> yes you do, its been a long time
[03:08] <thinsoldier> geez i hope they put the search feature in an easier to find place by default next time
[03:08] <cstrippie> wow, someone is begging to be kicked.
[03:08] <ratttts> im using amarok...how do i add music that i have in a folder on my desktop?
[03:08] <Sajes> Anyone feel like helping me compile firefox from source? <_< here's the error it gave me. http://pastebin.com/m6f099a70
[03:08] <FU_DICK> i don't think you remember
[03:09] <ghorman> what does this key stoke mean? <Shift><Super>s
[03:09] <ghorman> what is Super?
[03:09] <macd> FU_DICK, we could take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:09] <macd> ghorman, the windows key
[03:09] <thinsoldier> does anyone here do web development with ubuntu?
[03:09] <macd> thinsoldier, sure
[03:09] <RequinB4> ghorman - super is usaully the "windows" key on most keyboards
[03:09] <ghorman> ok thanks
[03:09] <leo_rockw> thinsoldier: i recommend learning the find command. and locate is great too
[03:09] <thinsoldier> macd: I have no idea where to put files so they show up on http://localhost
[03:10] <leo_rockw> ghorman: i have a Firefox sticker on it ^_^
[03:10] <sdondley> hey, macd, I actually followed the directions in that wiki earlier tonight, but nothing ever showed up in the "Restricted Drivers Manager"
[03:10] <FU_DICK> ho3 mu3h3 3wod 333oodawood chjhuck chuck if a wood chuch ckh,md cbhcm wkkd
[03:10] <macd> thinsoldier, /var/www/apache2-default
[03:10] <leo_rockw> thinsoldier: are you using apache?
[03:10] <ghorman> does ubuntu support a logitec G15 keyboard?  I'm not seeing it up the keyboard options
[03:11] <thinsoldier> leo_rockw I recommend they put the find option somewhere easier to find by default instead of me having to add it to the top panel manually months after using ubuntu without it
[03:11] <thinsoldier> yes using apache
[03:11] <macd> ghorman, I have one! and not really, you have to install some custom packages and decide what you want it to display
[03:11] <leo_rockw> thinsoldier: you can change whatever you want. they decided to keep it hidden you can enable it...
[03:11] <macd> ghorman, I happen to have the packages rolled for the g15 already ;)
[03:11] <leo_rockw> thinsoldier: use kde next time if you don't like ubuntu
[03:11] <ghorman> macd, does you windows key work? mine doesn't right now
[03:11] <thinsoldier> macd: why can't I save files in /var/www/apache2-default ?
[03:11] <macd> ghorman, yessir it does
[03:12] <ScriptDevil> i deleted my /etc/apache2 by mistake. i tried reinstalling apache.. but it did not reinstall apache2.conf. Is there any way, i can get it back?
[03:12] <macd> thinsoldier, b/c you need to be 'sudo'
[03:12] <thinsoldier> how do I do that
[03:12] <ghorman> macd, what keyboard do you have selected?
[03:12] <leo_rockw> thinsoldier: you can't save files there unless you're root
[03:12] <macd> ScriptDevil, sure, sudo apt-get --purge reinstall apache2
[03:12] <ghorman> macd, I have a genetic one selected right now
[03:12] <leo_rockw> thinsoldier: you can change the default folder, tho
[03:12] <leo_rockw> thinsoldier: i used ~/www
[03:12] <macd> ghorman, I just have generic
[03:12] <thinsoldier> I need my text editor and regular file browsing windows to be able to open/save files in there
[03:12] <ScriptDevil> macd: thanks a lot
[03:12] <leo_rockw> thinsoldier: lemme find the file you need to change
[03:12] <thinsoldier> i need to sudo start all of them 1 by 1?
[03:12] <ghorman> well crap
[03:13] <macd> ghorman, you need some of the g15 drivers to make it work properly, the macro keys, the lcd etc
[03:13] <leo_rockw> thinsoldier: sudo nano /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[03:13] <macd> ghorman, you can get them http://macd.shacknet.nu/~david/debs/g15/
[03:13] <ghorman> macd, i don;t need the macro stuff I got mu nostromo speedpad sorking
[03:13] <leo_rockw> thinsoldier: the line that says "DocumentRoot"
[03:13] <ghorman> which genetic one do you have selected?
[03:13] <leo_rockw> thinsoldier: change the folder to a folder in your home
[03:13] <macd> in fact, both my super keys work left and right
[03:13] <macd> ghorman, one sec.
[03:14] <macd> ghorman, generic 105 key US
[03:14] <ghorman> ok thanks
[03:14] <ScriptDevil> errr... macd apache2: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf:
[03:14] <macd> ScriptDevil, one sec
[03:14] <leo_rockw> ScriptDevil: i can send you mine if you want
[03:15] <thinsoldier> what does ^ mean?
[03:15] <leo_rockw> thinsoldier: ctrl
[03:15] <ScriptDevil> leo_rockw: thanks
[03:15] <thinsoldier> write out is save?
[03:15] <ScriptDevil> i would need it
[03:15] <leo_rockw> thinsoldier: ctrl + o is save
[03:15] <leo_rockw> thinsoldier: mine is in spanish, so idk what it says in english
[03:16] <thinsoldier> write out is save then
[03:16] <macd> ScriptDevil, do this: 'sudo apt-get --purge remove apache2', then 'sudo apt-get install apache2'
[03:16] <thinsoldier> don't I have to restart apache now?
[03:16] <ScriptDevil> macd: thats what i did
[03:16] <smamer> I succeeded in it a week ago, but when I tried to install mediawiki today I'm at a loss now what to do
[03:16] <retour> I have latest Ubuntu 7.10 and problem passing boot option to the kernel. My BIOS is older than 2000 so I have to pass ACPI=FORCE. Worked fine under Ubuntu 6.06. Under 7.10 all the tricks adding acpi=force doesn't work. Any success here or ideas?
[03:16] <leo_rockw> ScriptDevil: http://senduit.com/30bf3f
[03:16] <macd> ScriptDevil, after you issue the first command, check /etc/apache2, verify it DOES NOT exist
[03:17] <ghorman> macd, i have the 105 also but my keys are not working...
[03:17] <CubeXombi> wee little issue here, removed compiz, now, I'm in gnome but have no window manager, any suggestions?
[03:17] <ScriptDevil> macd: wait. i will try purging apache-common
[03:17] <smamer> I installed the packages, but I can't remember how, (withotu moving mediawiki) for it to appear on my webserver
[03:17] <macd> ghorman, wierd, your not by chance using one of those usb to ps3 connector things?
[03:17] <retour> ! boot
[03:17] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[03:17] <ghorman> nope, the usb is going straight into the PC
[03:17] <thinsoldier> where can I see a list of all running processes...and kill them?
[03:17] <macd> ScriptDevil, also do 'sudo apt-get clean' before issuing the apt-get install again
[03:18] <thinsoldier> with a gui?
[03:18] <macd> thinsoldier, either gnome-system-monitor, or 'top' in a console
[03:18] <leo_rockw> CubeXombi: you have metacity
[03:18] <leo_rockw> CubeXombi: try metacity --replace
[03:18] <jansenq> thinsoldier: ps -ef or ps auxww.  Look into killall
[03:18] <thinsoldier> apache isnt listed in the system monitor
[03:19] <technel> I installed kiba-dock and I don't want to have any Gnome panels. However, it requires at least one panel. Even on autohide, it's annoying--what can I do?
[03:19] <macd> thinsoldier, what are you trying to kill or restart?
[03:19] <smamer> Would anyone know how to help me with my apt/mediawiki dillemna
[03:19] <leo_rockw> thinsoldier: it is a daemon
[03:19] <macd> thinsoldier, dont kill apache like that!  use the init script 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop'
[03:19] <saxartist> hey all
[03:19] <robdig> retour: add them to the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:19] <CubeXombi> leo_rockw , thanks- ahh much better
[03:19] <leo_rockw> hello saxartist
[03:19] <nephlim> hey kids
[03:19] <macd> thinsoldier, its also not called apache in the proc list, its called "httpd"
[03:19] <thinsoldier> macd: how can I make a shortcut that runs that command?
[03:19] <leo_rockw> CubeXombi: it took me a while to remember the name... i use kwin
[03:19] <ghorman> If I change my keyboard do I need to restart X?
[03:20] <macd> thinsoldier, put it in a bash script, then make a shortcut on your desktop
[03:20] <saxartist> I accidentally created this mutant GNOME/KDE thing on my system today by installing some kxxxx packages, like kmix, so now I can't get back to pure gnome XD
[03:20] <nephlim> is there anyway to have write access to a smb share, without a password
[03:20] <saxartist> any suggestions
[03:20] <saxartist> I already purged kmix
[03:20] <macd> saxartist, "apt-get remove kde*" might work
[03:20] <leo_rockw> saxartist: i never understood when gnome people come with that problem. i can install gnome apps and my menues stay the same.
[03:20] <thinsoldier> httpd isnt in there either
[03:20] <ScriptDevil> saxartist: open up synaptic and remove those kde files you installed.. then do an apt-get autoremove to remove the deps
[03:20] <nephlim> like, a no pswd share on /home/user/sharefolder that my mac can automount to without the pass promt?
[03:20] <macd> saxartist, you can use regex, and * in apt to specifiy a blanket of packages
[03:20] <macd> thinsoldier, then its not running
[03:21] <saxartist> hahah I'm overwhelmed
[03:21] <thinsoldier> but it is
[03:21] <saxartist> leo_rockw: I know, this is weird, it didn't happen before
[03:21] <macd> saxartist, "sudo apt-get remove kde*" then "sudo apt-get autoremove", done.
[03:21] <CubeXombi> well it looks like dumping compiz didn't seem to help my 3d performance.
[03:21] <SeanConnery> hey where can I find more information on Jeos?
[03:21] <saxartist> and my KDE env. got messed up pretty bad too
[03:21] <saxartist> thanks all, macd
[03:21] <ScriptDevil> macd: purging and reinstalling apache2-common did the trick
[03:21] <SeanConnery> hi where can I find more information on Jeos?
[03:21] <jansenq> thinsoldier: try 'lsof -i'.  Looking for www/apache/http
[03:22] <leo_rockw> saxartist: i never used gnome that much, so my gnome experience is close to 0
[03:22] <macd> SeanConnery, http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-jeos
[03:22] <PuZo> can someone here help me install a gui?
[03:22] <macd> SeanConnery, though I'll tell its just being started on for Hardy :)
[03:22] <thinsoldier> so i just make a text file and name it *.bash?
[03:22] <leo_rockw> thinsoldier: .sh
[03:22] <guhhh> im having problems with permissions in the compromised system... is there any way i can copy the files that im having permissions problems to copy?
[03:22] <macd> PuZo, which one would you like to install? and do you need it to be a desktop env or just to manage a server via gui?
[03:22] <EvilWalksWithMe> anyone know how i can get hold of instructions to install some nice Gutsy themes and icon packs?
[03:22] <SeanConnery> macd, I saw that, but I meant documentation. What does it provide besides less packages?
[03:22] <jansenq> thinsoldier: don't forget the '#!/bin/bash' on the first line
[03:22] <leo_rockw> thinsoldier: and you need to give it executable permision
[03:22] <macd> thinsoldier, .sh, then "chmod u+x script.sh"
[03:22] <saxartist> If I "remove kde*" it's going to uninstall my rose-garden dependencies.. :(
[03:23] <bradv> EvilWalksWithMe: gnome-look.org
[03:23] <saxartist> and kalarm
[03:23] <EvilWalksWithMe> Thanks bradv
[03:23] <saxartist> and kwrite
[03:23] <macd> SeanConnery, there is no documentation for non existant things yet ;P
[03:23] <saxartist> mebbe I should use kubuntu
[03:23] <saxartist> again...
[03:23] <SeanConnery> macd, but its downloadable...
[03:23] <macd> SeanConnery, head on over to #ubuntu-server for some more info
[03:23] <SeanConnery> ok
[03:23] <saxartist> thanks all
[03:23] <ESphynx> Hi, anyone could please help me with scim?
[03:24] <leo_rockw> ESphynx: i can help you a lil bit... i'm on kde tho, so things might be different
[03:24] <macd> SeanConnery, oh man, now I feel stupid http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/jeos/releases/gutsy/release/ , there it is
[03:24] <ouellettesr> how do I install glibc 2.4?
[03:24] <SeanConnery> macd, yeah :-)
[03:24] <ESphynx> leo_rockw: i'm on my own distro
[03:24] <SeanConnery> macd, don't want to spend time to install it and play with it if it doesn't provide me any benefit!
[03:24] <ouellettesr> I can't find it in synaptic
[03:24] <ESphynx> leo_rockw what's the basics?
[03:25] <_zach_> !wine
[03:25] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[03:25] <ESphynx> so far I added to my ~/.xinitrc
[03:25] <macd> SeanConnery, in a nutshell according to the spec for it on LP its just a bare bones base system, similar to if you just bootstrapped
[03:25] <ESphynx> export XMODIFIERS="@im=SCIM" and scim -d
[03:25] <ScriptDevil> what is jeos?
[03:25] <macd> SeanConnery, I think they're aiming it at being the base OS for a virtulization system
[03:25] <leo_rockw> ESphynx: i installed scim-hangul from the repos
[03:25] <ESphynx> I changed the shortcut to alt-Shift-Space
[03:25] <thinsoldier> ok I changed that file to change the web root to a folder on my desktop and I restarted apache
[03:26] <ESphynx> I installed scim , anthy and scim-anthy
[03:26] <thinsoldier> but now i get a 404
[03:26] <PuZo> I just ned a gui
[03:26] <ouellettesr> does anyone know anything about glibc?
[03:26] <PuZo> I believe I have ubuntu server 6.0
[03:26] <macd> thinsoldier, you should look at the apache logs in /var/log/apache2/
[03:26] <ESphynx> i dont see anything when i press alt-shift-space
[03:26] <oldmanstan> anybody know which script i should edit to have commands run after the whole system has booted but before anybody logs in? can i put them in /etc/rc.local?
[03:26] <Invert314> can someone please poke me? i'm doing a test on ubuntu
[03:26] <SeanConnery> macd, thanks for your help and comments
[03:26]  * genii returns from de-icing a coworker's car door (and drinking a coffee) after receiving a panicked phone call
[03:27] <ESphynx> leo_rockw: would you please join my channel so we could discuss this there without interference? :) ecere
[03:27] <PuZo> If someone can help me, can they pm me?
[03:27] <ScriptDevil> ouellettesr:  well... it is a package  glibc-2.6-1
[03:27] <macd> PuZo, if you just need a GUI, 'sudo apt-get install gnome gdm'
[03:27] <ScriptDevil> ouellettesr:  aptitude search  glibc
[03:27] <joeb3_> oldmanstan, /etc/init.d/rc.local
[03:27] <macd> and Im out for the night, have a good one everyone.
[03:27] <PuZo> do i use putty to connect?
[03:27] <oldmanstan> joeb3_: ahh thank you much
[03:27]  * ScriptDevil pokes Invert314
[03:27] <Invert314> ty ScriptDevil
[03:27] <ScriptDevil> lol
[03:28] <_zach_> is there a channel for xen/virtual machines?
[03:28] <NemesisD> i've been getting grub error 21, which i've been told means that the selected disk could not be found, should i be editing menu.lst or map or something?
[03:28] <ouellettesr> ScriptDevil: I can't find that in the repos, is that where you are seeing it?
[03:28] <PuZo> what does this mean?
[03:28] <PuZo> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[03:28] <PuZo> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[03:28] <thinsoldier> macd: thanks, had the folder on my desktop instead of my home
[03:28] <ScriptDevil> ouellettesr: use aptitude search. i dont use gui clients
[03:28] <ScriptDevil> PuZo: run the command as root
[03:28] <ScriptDevil> PuZo: do a sudo command
[03:29] <PuZo> so put sudo infront?
[03:29] <ScriptDevil> yeah
[03:29] <thinsoldier> any idea why my dvd player never worked in ubuntu?
[03:29] <PuZo> i did
[03:29] <PuZo> oh wait
[03:29] <PuZo> nm
[03:29] <kg96> which dvd player?
[03:29] <genii> No rest for the wicked I guess
[03:29] <thinsoldier> omfg! my dvd player opened. it might be working this time
[03:29] <genii> Invert314: What is the nature of the test?
[03:29] <thinsoldier> brb testing
[03:29] <PuZo> also, how do i do this?
[03:29] <PuZo> Your 'root' password can be found in the home directory for dpaznekas
[03:29] <PuZo> in a file called 'su.txt' please copy the password and REMOVE the 'su.txt'
[03:29] <PuZo> file ASAP.
[03:29] <ouellettesr> ScriptDevil: OK, I have never used aptitude, are the packages configured for ubuntu? I remember installing glibc from their website once and it ruind my system.
[03:29] <Invert314> genii, i was testing out xchat beep messages
[03:30] <Invert314> i wanted it my PC to beep from the mobo
[03:30] <Invert314> it worked
[03:30] <Invert314> =D
[03:30] <genii> Invert314: Cool
[03:30] <Csaba> are there any dvd players that show menus on linux?
[03:30] <thinsoldier> :) dvd player works today
[03:30]  * ouellettesr pokes Invert314
[03:30] <ouellettesr> did it beep again?
[03:30]  * Invert314 likes being poked
[03:30] <Invert314> yes
[03:30] <PuZo> do i use putty to connect?
[03:31] <kg96> thinsoldier:which dvd player do u use
[03:31] <kg96> ?
[03:31] <thinsoldier> you know of windowskey+D hides all windows in Windows
[03:31] <thinsoldier> anything like that in gnome?
[03:31] <crdlb> thinsoldier: ctrl+alt+D
[03:31] <Invert314> thinsoldier, windowskey + M does the same
[03:31] <kg96> so does windows key m
[03:31] <kg96> lol
[03:31] <mohkohn> I am able to connect to the internet with an ubuntu feisty live cd but my hard drive install is not working.
[03:32] <Gnurdux> ok, someone i know just did something stupid: they did the normal ubuntu installer on vista
[03:32] <Gnurdux> any way to repair the damage?
[03:32] <mohkohn> what settings do I need to copy over. It should be just using dhcp
[03:32] <thinsoldier> would it be possible to set apache to use a web root that I already have on my windows drive?
[03:32] <PuZo> what does this mean?
[03:32] <PuZo> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[03:33] <mohkohn> on the hard drive I can sometimes get the network up with ifdown etho and ifup eth0 . I can ping yahoo. then it suddenly drops out.
[03:34] <graelb>  Are there any known issues with abiword not spellchecking correctly
[03:35] <genii> PuZo: Most times that means you shouldn't try to login as root
[03:35] <PuZo> so how else do i login?
[03:35] <Gnurdux> please does anybody know if its recoverable?
[03:35] <genii> PuZo: As the username you created when you installed the os
[03:35] <Csaba> anyone running firefox 3?
[03:35] <PuZo> isnt that teh root?
[03:36] <Dr_willis> Csaba,  i couldent get it to install.
[03:36] <Csaba> Dr_willis.. heh same, i thought coz i was a noob i did something wrong
[03:36] <Gnurdux> ok
[03:37] <Dr_willis> Csaba,  some sort of package issue with xulSOMTHING i recall
[03:37] <Gnurdux> if the ubuntu installer broke vista, is it because it ruined the partition or because grub doesnt boot vista correctly?
[03:37] <Dr_willis> Grub can boot vista.
[03:37] <Tarkus> whats the best way to install widget factory?
[03:37] <EvilWalksWithMe> Grub boots vista perfect :)
[03:37] <Dr_willis> Now it may be missconfigured. depending on what you means 'broke vista'
[03:38] <Gnurdux> Dr_willis, i mean someone from my school whos a linux n00b downloaded ubuntu and attempted to install it on a vista machine
[03:38] <Gnurdux> and vista doesnt boot
[03:38] <Oli``> Is Firefox3b1 in the repos?
[03:38] <Dr_willis> Gnurdux,  if he miss-understood wht the installer was asking.. he very well could of deleted windows
[03:39] <Gnurdux> no
[03:39] <Dr_willis> !info firefox-3
[03:39] <ubotu> Package firefox-3 does not exist in gutsy
[03:39] <Dr_willis> hmm
[03:39] <Gnurdux> because he recovered files from the machine apparently
[03:39] <Gnurdux> from the windows partition
[03:40] <Csaba> how can i make a boot floppy? so i can dual boot without changing bootloader on hdd
[03:40] <DShepherd> !boot | Csaba
[03:40] <ubotu> Csaba: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[03:40] <EvilWalksWithMe> I find the easiest way to install Ubuntu on a Vista machine, Is use Vista to resize the partition (it's faster than the ubuntu installer) and then go from there.
[03:41] <Csaba> thanks
[03:41] <sjovan> i found a awnser to my problem. how to get opera to work remote ---> ssh -L <IP_ADDRESS>:8880:internal.ip.of.router:80 external.ip.of.router , but i got one big problem port 8880 isnæt open
[03:41] <sjovan> how can i finde a open port?
[03:41] <Gnurdux> Dr_willis, apparently all his files are there, there is 1 not 2 vista choices in Grub and it takes him to Windows Error Recovery
[03:41] <nomasteryoda> EvilWalksWithMe, what about Wubi?
[03:41] <thinsoldier> i've got 14 folders found with 'apache' in the name, which one probably contains the settings for apache that would let me use .htaccess files?
[03:41] <DShepherd> !find firefox | Dr_willis
[03:41] <ubotu> dr_willis: Found: firefox-themes-ubuntu, mozilla-firefox-locale-af, mozilla-firefox-locale-ar, mozilla-firefox-locale-be, mozilla-firefox-locale-bg-bg (and 71 others)
[03:41] <PuZo> can some1 please help me install a gui?
[03:42] <DShepherd> !info firefox-3.0
[03:42] <ubotu> firefox-3.0: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla (Development Version). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0~alpha8+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1130 kB, installed size 3832 kB
[03:42] <computer_Newbee> should i download Sun UltraSPARC based for my imac?
[03:42] <nomasteryoda> thinsoldier, /var/www/
[03:42] <EvilWalksWithMe> nomasteryoda: im new to all of this, so thats just the method I used personally, which seemed to work well :)
[03:42] <nomasteryoda> cool
[03:42] <DShepherd> Oli``, no its no in the repos
[03:42] <Gnurdux> so whats broken
[03:42] <Gnurdux> the boot record or the partition
[03:43] <thinsoldier> nope: thats just the default web root
[03:43] <PuZo> can some1 please help me install a gui?
[03:43] <computer_Newbee> id like to install ubuntu. should i download Sun UltraSPARC based for my imac?
[03:43] <thinsoldier> no settings in there
[03:43] <xirdneh> hi there
[03:43] <sdondley> hey, macd, downloaded and burned that iso, so what do I do with it? don't see any drivers on it
[03:43] <Kalamansi> hello..cant think which one to install...which is nice?with lifetime support?is it ubuntu 7.10 or 6.10 (server edition)?
[03:43] <xirdneh> does the ubuntu cd comes with a live cd?
[03:43] <DShepherd> !powerpc | computer_Newbee
[03:43] <ubotu> computer_Newbee: PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[03:44] <naelrssinssrig> good evening all and happy thanksgiving to USA irc'ers
[03:44] <DShepherd> xirdneh, the desktop cd is the live cd
[03:44] <thinsoldier> ok found it
[03:44] <EvilWalksWithMe> xirdneh: Yes... It is the live CD.
[03:44] <EvilWalksWithMe> oops, too slow :P
[03:44] <DShepherd> :-)
[03:44] <thinsoldier> is there any documentation on what the F /etc/ means and all the other top level folders
[03:44] <thinsoldier> i'd be less lost if I had a clue what these words stood for
[03:45] <genii> There is in fact
[03:45] <thinsoldier> where
[03:45] <Csaba> anyone running ubuntu on PS3?
[03:45] <ediktus> www.reallylinux.com/docs/consult.shtml "Users of UBUNTU, this page for you!!!
[03:45] <DShepherd> thinsoldier, http://www.freeos.com/articles/3102/ -- maybe this will help. google knows alot about the linux fileystem
[03:45] <thinsoldier> when dragging and dropping, what key makes it a shortcut?
[03:46] <Kalamansi> hello..cant think which one to install...which is nice?with lifetime support?is it ubuntu 7.10 or 6.10 (server edition)?
[03:46] <tntCry> can any1 help me?
[03:46] <ediktus> www.reallylinux.com/docs/consult.shtml
[03:47] <zachary> thinsoldier hold down "alt" while dragging
[03:47] <Gnurdux> so
[03:47] <Gnurdux> could it be a grub problem?
[03:47] <Kalamansi> hello..cant think which one to install...which is nice?with lifetime support?is it ubuntu 7.10 or 6.10 (server edition)?
[03:47] <tntCry> in prefrences resoloution my refresh rate is 50 , does this mean my laptop is running 50 Refresh RATE???
[03:47] <genii> thinsoldier: http://www.linfo.org/root_directory.html
[03:47] <julio3patas> i have a new hd i want to add to my computer and i want ubuntu to recognize it as a drive ,    do i use qtparted to create an ext3 partition? and how do  i mount it automatically so when i boot is there thx
[03:47] <ediktus> www.reallylinux.com/docs/consult.shtml "Users of UBUNTU, this page for you!!!
[03:48] <Kalamansi> hello..cant think which one to install...which is nice?with lifetime support?is it ubuntu 7.10 or 6.10 (server edition)?
[03:48] <Pyrobyte> hello all whenever i try to open amarok i get this error "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Permission denied." it opens and works, but there is no system tray icon. any ideas
[03:48] <DShepherd> Kalamansi, install 6.06 has longterm support. not 6.10. install 7.10
[03:48] <Kalamansi> thanks DShepherd
[03:48] <DShepherd> Pyrobyte, no ideas. you can ask in #kubuntu though, they know alot about amarok
[03:49] <elec999> hello
[03:49] <DShepherd> Kalamansi, yw
[03:49] <Pyrobyte> DShepherd: thanks
[03:49] <ediktus> www.reallylinux.com/docs/consult.shtml "Users of UBUNTU, this page for you!!! Im out.... Good day!
[03:49] <genii> I  think ediktus is a bot
[03:49] <Kalamansi> DShepherd: im a bit confused.which is for server?ubuntu,edubuntu or kubuntu?
[03:49] <DShepherd> i think so too
[03:49] <xirdneh> thnx
[03:50] <DShepherd> there's only one server Kalamansi . no need to be confused
[03:50] <julio3patas> i have a new hd i want to add to my computer and i want ubuntu to recognize it as a drive ,    do i use qtparted to create an ext3 partition? and how do  i mount it automatically so when i boot is there thx
[03:50] <elec999> ho
[03:50] <Ulmadillo> Hello. Can anybody help me with NetworkManager?
[03:50] <elec999> h
[03:50] <elec999> hi
[03:50] <DShepherd> julio3patas, you can use qparted. ubuntu should automattically mount it
[03:50] <Tarkus> whats the best way to install widget factory?
[03:51] <elec999> anyone know any easy to get the latest kernel
[03:51] <DerangedDingo> julio3patas: use a partition editor like Qtparted, mkfs, or Gparted, and set a mount point in /mount
[03:51] <thinsoldier> is there a way to sudo open stuff without having to go to the command line
[03:51] <elec999> using apt-get
[03:51] <usser> julio3patas: put an entry to /etc/fstab
[03:51] <usser> julio3patas: something like that
[03:51] <Ulmadillo> I'm confused. I'm trying to get Ubuntu to connect to wifi and can't. I can get past partitioning issues. I'm looking for NetworkManager in my system and can't seem to get it to open properly.
[03:51] <julio3patas> DShepherd: so just create a 500gb , and set mount point to whatever
[03:51] <usser> julio3patas: /dev/sda1 /vmachines      ext3    defaults        0       2
[03:52] <Kalamansi> DShepherd: and its ubuntu right?
[03:52] <usser> julio3patas: just adjust it according to your setup
[03:52] <DerangedDingo> julio3patas: i meant /media not /mount :P
[03:52] <DShepherd> julio3patas, if you partition it, ubuntu should automattically mount it
[03:52] <DShepherd> julio3patas, no sweat
[03:52] <DShepherd> Kalamansi, yeah, its ubuntu.
[03:52] <julio3patas> it is a 500gb hard drive i want to make a single ext3 partition to put all my vmware machines from within ubuntu
[03:53] <DShepherd> julio3patas, ok
[03:53] <thinsoldier> is there a way to sudo open stuff without having to go to the command line
[03:53] <grimeboy> thinsoldier, gksudo
[03:53] <julio3patas> ok will try qtparted and see haha
[03:53] <elec999> is there any easy way install newest kernel, using apt-get?
[03:53] <usser> grimeboy: yea but that requires going to command line doesnt it :)
[03:53]  * ulma3 requests easy help.
[03:53] <DShepherd> thinsoldier, yeah.. alt + f2 and type gksudo program
[03:53] <thinsoldier> gksudo? a little more info?
[03:53] <Kalamansi> DShepherd: thank you..may i know whos the financer/owner/ceo/president of ubuntu,edubuntu and kubuntu?
[03:53] <genii> !gksudo
[03:53] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[03:54] <grimeboy> thinsoldier, Syntax: gksudo <program>
[03:54] <DerangedDingo> thinsoldier: 'gksu [NAME OF PROGRAM]
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> elec999: dont bother with a new kernel unless it is for a specific fix
[03:54] <DerangedDingo> '
[03:54] <gorb> hi
[03:54] <DShepherd> !mark | Kalamansi
[03:54] <elec999> I am having problems with my HP laptop
[03:54] <ubotu> Kalamansi: Mark "sabdfl" Shuttleworth is our favourite cosmonaut, the founder of Canonical and the primary driver behind Ubuntu. You can find pieces of his thinking at http://www.markshuttleworth.com
[03:54] <thinsoldier> hmm.... i'm so tempted to just try loggin in as root all the time
[03:54] <elec999> and current kernel
[03:54] <elec999> giving me pci bios bug
[03:54] <elec999> error
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo nautilus... but I prefer gksudo thunar   a lighter file manager
[03:54] <elec999> at boot
[03:54] <gorb> has anyone won the battle of a comcast modem and dhcp?
[03:54]  * ulma3 wants to get online under Ubuntu using wifi but cannot seem to navigate the configuration stuff.
[03:54] <grimeboy> thinsoldier, Don't
[03:54] <leo_rockw> thinsoldier: that's the worst idea you could have
[03:55]  * ulma3 hopes it to be simple but needs basic starting guidance. Please.
[03:55] <thinsoldier> but this is more annoying than vista (and i fukin hate vista)
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> thinsoldier: really really a bad idea
[03:55] <buttercups> thinsoldier, nautilus-gksu in Synaptic, privilege granting extension for nautilus using gksu
[03:55] <PuZo> how do i open a file?
[03:55] <grimeboy> buttercups++
[03:55] <DerangedDingo> thinsoldier: it makes your whole system vulnerable to, even a mean bash script
[03:55] <Kalamansi> DShepherd: thank you.you seem very updated.are you the developer of this distrobutions?
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> thinsoldier: If you are needing root access that much, you are doing something wrong
[03:55] <thinsoldier> is there nothing that adds 'run as root' or 'open as root' to the context menu?
[03:55] <rattits> how do i find out wat my defualt gateway is with ubuntu?
[03:55] <DShepherd> Kalamansi, yes =)
[03:55] <grimeboy> thinsoldier, Yeah, what buttercups said
[03:55] <PuZo> whats the command to open a file?
[03:56] <zachary> thinsoldier  bad idea :)  Root is dangerous.  you can create shortcuts to gksudo programs in the menu editor so you don't need to type anything.
[03:56] <DShepherd> Kalamansi, nah, I am joking.. no, I just chill out here from time to time
[03:56] <cafuego> rattits: route -n
[03:56] <usser> rattits: route
[03:56] <thinsoldier> Jack_Sparrow: i'm trying to edit apache2.conf so I can finally at least attempt to work from home with ubuntu
[03:56] <rattits> thanx
[03:56] <thinsoldier> i've been configuring shit for weeks now :(
[03:56] <Kalamansi> DShepherd: i see.its my first time to use ubuntu.just this november 2007.im a windows guy before
[03:56] <thinsoldier> ...trying to find out how to configure 90% of the time, 10% actual configuring
[03:57] <thinsoldier> is there nothing that adds 'run as root' or 'open as root' to the context menu?
[03:57] <elec999> i like ubunut
[03:57] <DShepherd> Kalamansi, ok
[03:57] <zachary> thinsoldier yes there is a gnome script that adds "run as root" from the right click menu
[03:57] <cafuego> thinsoldier: In such cases I run 'sudo -i' in aterminal, gives you a permanent root shell.
[03:57] <Kalamansi> DShepherd: i found out that we can less expenses if we setup an Internet Cafe in our town using ubuntu.
[03:57] <buttercups> thinsoldier, yes I told you
[03:57] <grimeboy> thinsoldier, """nautilus-gksu in Synaptic, privilege granting extension for nautilus using gksu"""
[03:57] <grimeboy> thinsoldier, As buttercups said
[03:57] <Jack_Sparrow> thinsoldier: not a good idea....   but some people insist on learning the hard way
[03:58] <Kalamansi> DShepherd: than buying expensive license of windows
[03:58] <elec999> my ubuntu on laptop keeps on freezing, or lagging for a few seconds
[03:58] <elec999> thats why i want to try newer kernel
[03:58] <grimeboy> Jack_Sparrow, What's wrong with having those on the context menu?
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> grimeboy: He is going to keep running as root until he runs it into the ground
[03:59]  * genii sips coffee and settles in for the old sudo vs root debate etc etc
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> genii: Pour me a cup.. this is always fun
[03:59] <leo_rockw> genii: better than vi vs emacs or kde vs gnome
[04:00] <rattts> hi all. what is the port that youtube uses? i want to block it
[04:00]  * genii slides Jack_Sparrow a large cup o coffee
[04:00] <Kalamansi> DShepherd: How do you guys make money for your needs?why is it free?developer needs food,dress and daily needs...
[04:00] <PuZo> what does this mean?
[04:00] <grimeboy> Jack_Sparrow, Well, maybe but you don't know what he's doing. He may well have a legitimate reason. I use sudo all the time, but he doesn't seem to want to use the command line so it seems equivalent.
[04:00] <PuZo> Fatal server error:
[04:00] <PuZo> Server is already active for display 0
[04:00] <PuZo>         If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[04:00] <PuZo>         and start again.
[04:00] <PuZo> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[04:00] <PuZo> Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key
[04:00] <PuZo> giving up.
[04:00] <PuZo> xinit:  unable to connect to X server
[04:00] <PuZo> xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
[04:00]  * genii slides leo_rockw a large cup o coffee as well
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> PuZo: stop
[04:00] <DShepherd> PuZo, dont paste here ok
[04:00] <ArthurArchnix> thinsoldier, check out what is going on in the suoders file. There's stuff there that could make your life easier.
[04:00] <leo_rockw> genii: thank you :-D
[04:00] <Kalamansi> DShepherd: hehe sorry too much !
[04:00] <rattts> can someone tell me what port youtube uses. i need t block it
[04:00] <leo_rockw> Kalamansi: canonical pays some developers
[04:00] <genii> leo_rockw: np :)
[04:00] <Kalamansi> DShepherd: i mean too ! hehe
[04:01] <usser> rattts: 80
[04:01] <Kalamansi> leo_rockw: i see
[04:01] <rattts> any of u use kismet?
[04:01] <rattts> thanx
[04:01] <usser> rattts: and if u block it u'll block all http requests
[04:01] <DShepherd> Kalamansi, its free because its not owned by anyone, or owned by everyone
[04:01] <Kalamansi> leo_rockw: why is it ubuntu free and windows is not free?
[04:01] <rattts> lol ok nvm then
[04:01] <leo_rockw> Kalamansi: most stuff comes from upstream (debian)
[04:01] <leo_rockw> Kalamansi: debian developers are volunteers
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Kalamansi: because we dont get paid
[04:01] <DShepherd> Kalamansi, ask bill about microsoft
[04:01] <Kalamansi> leo_rockw: i see...
[04:02] <usser> rattts: just uninstall flash and youtube wont work
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Kalamansi: and we are better at this than MS is at Vista
[04:02] <jansenq> rattts: and 443
[04:02] <usser> rattts: or make flash plugin file root readable only
[04:02] <grimeboy> rattts, Easier way, add <IP_ADDRESS> *.youtube.com to /etc/hosts
[04:02] <basskozz> Please someone help me with VNC ?
[04:02] <Kalamansi> Jack_Sparrow: how about if you get sick who will pay you?you need money because you guys give your time developing...
[04:02] <leo_rockw> Kalamansi: there are companies that make money with free software, tho
[04:02] <rattts> im managing a wireless router, and the damn kids keep watchin youtube. they are slowing me down.. they're on windows, im on linux
[04:02] <usser> grimeboy: haha wow neat trick
[04:02] <PuZo> can some1 please help me then?
[04:02] <usser> grimeboy: :)
[04:03] <leo_rockw> Kalamansi: some people get paid to code free software, other people do it because they like it and they have regular jobs too
[04:03] <Kalamansi> DShepherd: MS is expensive because bill has lots of hotchix i guess
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Kalamansi: I give as much time as I can to the project...
[04:03] <DShepherd> Kalamansi, people develop when then can, if they can. no one is forced too
[04:03] <leo_rockw> Kalamansi: i'm a translator, i get paid to translate, but then i go to launchpad and translate for free
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Kalamansi: I also make money supporting MS products
[04:03] <DShepherd> Kalamansi, however they are some developers that are paid to develop ubuntu
[04:03] <zachary> Kalamansi, Red Hat makes money selling support with Linux for corporations.
[04:03] <elec999> how does ubuntu make its profit?
[04:04] <hatter> which file shows the ubuntu version i am on ?
[04:04] <usser> elec999: i dont think it does yet
[04:04] <elec999> hmm
[04:04] <DShepherd> elec999, its not designed to make profit
[04:04] <usser> elec999: its all financed by Shuttleworth
[04:04] <elec999> then how can it afford to pay its developers?
[04:04] <elec999> oh
[04:04] <elec999> I see
[04:04] <leo_rockw> elec999: ubuntu gets money from commercial support
[04:04] <DShepherd> !mark
[04:04] <ubotu> Mark "sabdfl" Shuttleworth is our favourite cosmonaut, the founder of Canonical and the primary driver behind Ubuntu. You can find pieces of his thinking at http://www.markshuttleworth.com
[04:04] <genii> hatter: the command is: lsb_release -a
[04:04] <elec999> I am complety new to ubuntu and linux
[04:04] <leo_rockw> elec999: they get enough money to pay developers and for shipit i guess
[04:04] <grimeboy> rattts That's harder. I know a lot of router have lists of domains ban. If you wanted to be a crazy and it's a linksys you might be able to install a specialised linux distro on it.
[04:04] <elec999> but making my way
[04:04] <hatter> genii, thx
[04:05] <genii> hatter: np
[04:05] <rattts> lol
[04:05] <zachary> hatter, system>administration>System Monitor, and the first tab shows you your version info
[04:05] <rattts> i have another idea
[04:05] <grimeboy> leo_rockw, No, it's in loss.
[04:05] <rattts> can someone tell me some kind of free remote desktop program fro linux so i can secretly control their computer?
[04:05] <hatter> i have a problem on two of my 7.10 boxes,  after a short period of time there is a great network lag for a minute or so then it goes away.
[04:05] <grimeboy> leo_rockw, Or so I heard.
[04:06]  * genii prefers to distribute dist-agnostic methods
[04:06] <hatter> they are different h/w to each other
[04:06] <ArthurArchnix> !o4o | rattts
[04:06] <ubotu> rattts: Some things are inappropriate for #ubuntu. Controversial topics, which always turn into flamewars: war, race, religion, politics (unless related to software licencing), gender, sexuality, drugs, questionable legal activities, removing of oneself from the planet (except by space or time travel) are not for here, perhaps #off-topic or ##politics. Microsoft software in ##windows (Please note Freenode Policy) - Thanks.
[04:06] <hatter> rattts, vnc
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> rattts: rdesktop.. it is included
[04:06] <leo_rockw> grimeboy: probably yeah. but then again, mark has looots of money
[04:06] <rattts> ok thanx
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> rattts: they need to give you permission to access them..
[04:06] <Jack_Sparrow> People.. need to run.. play nice
[04:06] <julio3patas> ok i installed a new hd on my computer , i went into qtparted and created one single ext3 partition with mount point /extras, but i can not see it at all how do i see the parition i created and use it from within ubuntu, thx
[04:06] <grimeboy> True dat. I'm sure it'll break in to profit at some point soonish.
[04:07] <rattts> i can access their comp. im admin
[04:07] <rattts> but i dont want to seem evil so i want to discreetly do it?
[04:07] <rattts> so maybe remote desktop is the best way lol
[04:07] <genii> ssh?
[04:07] <elec999> what are some usefull apps
[04:07] <elec999> to get for ubunut beginer
[04:07] <grimeboy> rattts, I want to tell you just how wrong that is.
[04:07] <leo_rockw> elec999: what do you want to do?
[04:08] <rattts> lol
[04:08] <grimeboy> But I can't because I know it'll degenerate.
[04:08] <DShepherd> julio3patas, type the mount command and see if you see it mounted
[04:08] <rattts> control the kids comps
[04:08] <tntCry> my refresh rate is 60 when i enable 3d accelerator it gets down to 50!!! HELPP MEE
[04:08] <grimeboy> Why not learn to talk to your children?
[04:08] <rattts> they are always eating up my bandwidth
[04:08] <hatter> are there any others #ubuntu channels ?
[04:08] <Altu59> I have a Thinkpad and it doesn't have the Windows key
[04:08] <usser> elec999: amarok
[04:08] <DShepherd> elec999, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ -- read this
[04:08] <rattts> lol
[04:08] <Altu59> how can I map Capslock to Windows key?
[04:08] <julio3patas> DShepherd: mount command???
[04:08] <DerangedDingo> julio3patas: why /extra's?? well, that, doesn't matter I think. "mount /extra's/filesystem'
[04:08] <julio3patas> !mount
[04:08] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:08] <leo_rockw> hatter: many
[04:09] <zachary> Altu59, I have a Thinkpad with a Windows Key :)
[04:09] <hatter> this channel spends a lot of time off topic, are there moderators here ?
[04:09] <DShepherd> julio3patas, open a terminal and type mount
[04:09] <ArthurArchnix> hatter: #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:09] <Altu59> zachary: Lenovo?
[04:09] <DShepherd> hatter, yeah moderators are here
[04:09] <DerangedDingo> hatter: there isn't much offtopic talk, and there are several moderators here
[04:09] <buttercups> !irc | hatter
[04:09] <ubotu> hatter: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[04:09] <Altu59> ;)
[04:09] <chilli_> hello all
[04:09] <ghorman> anyone here using a G15 logitech keybaord?
[04:09] <zachary> Altu59, Yep Thinkpad Z60t
[04:09] <chilli_> no sorrie
[04:09] <ghorman> I'm not getting an event in xev with my superkeys
[04:09] <zachary> Altu59, Excellent Machine
[04:09] <hatter> DerangedDingo, ok, i must enter at the wrong times :)
[04:10] <zouzou> hi all,
[04:10] <Altu59> zachary: yeah, thinkpads are rock strong
[04:10] <chilli_> hey does any one were to start learning C
[04:10] <zouzou> i am trying to get my tvcard to run on linux,
[04:10] <zouzou> i have Bus 006 Device 002: ID 2304:0208 Pinnacle Systems, Inc. [hex] Pinnacle Studio PCTV USB2
[04:10] <julio3patas> DShepherd: nope extras is not there , does it matter what i named it , i used qtparted to create the ext3 partition one single 500gb
[04:10] <hatter> is freenode the official server ?
[04:10] <shishirmk> hi is there anyway to recover things in /tmp folder when i shutdown and restart??
[04:10] <zouzou> and i installed USBvision but nothing happens when i start tvtime!
[04:10] <thinsoldier> :( i give up
[04:10] <thinsoldier> thanks
[04:10] <thinsoldier> later
[04:10] <ESphynx> chilli_ you can start in my channel :P
[04:11] <chilli_> whats the cannel
[04:11] <zachary> Altu59, Have you looked in Gnome's Keyboard settings to see if you can map your key combo?
[04:11] <ESphynx> whois me :P
[04:11] <DShepherd> julio3patas, is it on your desktop? of in your places menu?
[04:11] <shishirmk> hi is there anyway to recover things in /tmp folder when i shutdown and restart??
[04:11] <DerangedDingo> julio3patas: it doesn't matter that it's 1 single 500 GB partition.
[04:11] <DShepherd> shishirmk, i doubt it
[04:11] <zachary> Altu59, What is your model #?
[04:11]  * tntCry wants 60 refresh rate when the system limits to 50
[04:12] <Altu59> zachary: no, it's a UK R51
[04:12] <Altu59> UK = United Kingdom
[04:12] <shishirmk> nobody has any clue??
[04:12] <shishirmk> hi is there anyway to recover things in /tmp folder when i shutdown and restart??
[04:12] <tntCry> this channel is dead
[04:12] <julio3patas> DerangedDingo: it is not on mydesktop or anywhere else, qtparted sees it that is it
[04:12] <tntCry> every1 out partying
[04:12] <leo_rockw> !repeat shishirmk
[04:12] <sproingie> shishirmk: if they're not there they're pretty well gone
[04:13] <DShepherd> shishirmk, i think its called tmp for a reason..
[04:13] <leo_rockw> !repeat | shishirmk
[04:13] <ubotu> shishirmk: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:13] <sproingie> shishirmk: i think ubuntu uses tmpfs, which means it's basically swap
[04:13] <shishirmk> ya i know
[04:13] <zachary> Altu59, I have an R50e U.S. Model too.  Wish I had your euro key.  Worth more than my $
[04:13] <Kalamansi> DShepherd: leo_rockw: Jack_Sparrow: zachary: ah so you guys earn BIG money then.but you guys will do developing the products for the rest of your life?i mean do you guys have your own family?do you guys spent time with your family?i heard alot of issues especially developers..many times they dont eat..they code..
[04:13] <tntCry> for sure somebody knows something about refresh rate !
[04:13] <shishirmk> so i wont get my file back??
[04:13] <chilli_> hey does any one were to start learning C
[04:13] <chilli_> hey does any one were to start learning C
[04:13] <tarelerulz> do windows vista use ntfs ?
[04:13] <leo_rockw> Kalamansi: i'm not a developer, i'm a translator
[04:13] <basskozz> I am willing to pay someone $10 (via paypal) if they can help me get VNC working in Xubuntu, See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3821473 for more info and /msg me your e-mail address and I'll send the cash ... PLEASE I am dieing here, I've been trying to get this working for 3 days now :(
[04:13] <cafuego> tarelerulz: yes
[04:14] <DerangedDingo> chilli_: what?
[04:14] <chilli_> hey does any one were to start learning C
[04:14] <Altu59> zachary: lol!
[04:14] <DShepherd> Kalamansi, are you for real?
[04:14] <Kalamansi> leo_rockw: yes i know.
[04:14] <leo_rockw> Kalamansi: i make no money with free software
[04:14] <DerangedDingo> chilli_: you aren't making much sense. I know C if that's what you're asking
[04:14] <zachary> Kalamansi, I am just a user, not a devel.  It's a hobby for some, a paid career for others.
[04:14] <nephlim> how do i make a folder that a guest can read/write to, and access w/samba without passwords?
[04:14] <leo_rockw> i'm here to help people in need because free software was there when i needed it
[04:14] <chilli_> yes
[04:14] <chilli_> i want to start learning it
[04:14] <cafuego> But feel free to pay us if you so desire ;-)
[04:14] <tntCry> my laptop screen only acceptsd least refresh rate of 60 and maximum of 60  but UBUNTU system says im on 50 , is it just a saying or an engaged authority of linux distro , if so .... i have a book to write about this
[04:14] <tarelerulz> Thanks for the information cafuego ? that was really big question for me.  See how all my media is on my windows partition at list it will be when I install Ubuntu
[04:15] <sproingie> btw, anyone know how to turn off spellcheck in xchat?
[04:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Kalamansi: yes, I have no financial wories, yes I have family, I work a project, when done take as long a break as I want.  My office looks out over a private lake and working environment is very nice
[04:15] <leo_rockw> yeah, Kalamansi, if you want to pay me go ahead, haha
[04:15] <DerangedDingo> chilli_: K&R's The C Programming Language and C-For-Dummies 2nd Edition are good books.
[04:15] <cafuego> tarelerulz: Linux cna read ntfs just fine, I believe Ubuntu 7.10 can even write to it now.
[04:15] <DShepherd> Jack_Sparrow, i thought you were gone =)
[04:15] <chilli_> any good websites
[04:15] <sproingie> oh duh, right there in the prefs
[04:15] <leo_rockw> Kalamansi: i enter #ubuntu every once in a while, it's not like i'm here every day
[04:15] <chilli_> or channels
[04:15] <ghorman> macd, are you there?
[04:15] <Kalamansi> DShepherd: just asking..i have a lot of friends who are developers too.same thing..late eat..sometimes they forgot to eat and bath..sometimes of their wife have other man...
[04:15] <zachary> tarelerulz, Yes 7.10 reads and writes NTFS fine.
[04:15] <basskozz> PLEASE is there anyone out there who can help me?
[04:15] <leo_rockw> Kalamansi: they forget to bath... i think you mean stallman
[04:16] <Jack_Sparrow> DShepherd: I am NOT here.. honest..
[04:16] <pianoboy3333> how do you apply a .diff.gz to a tar.gz source archive?
[04:16] <DShepherd> Kalamansi, life is exciting isnt it :-)
[04:16] <tntCry> my laptop screen only acceptsd least refresh rate of 60 and maximum of 60  but UBUNTU system says im on 50 , is it just a saying or an engaged authority of linux distro , if so .... i have a book to write about this
[04:16] <leo_rockw> well, g'nite everyone
[04:16] <sproingie> basskozz: just ask your question, we can't help if we don't know your question
[04:16] <DShepherd> Jack_Sparrow, ah, just checking
[04:16] <soblivion_70> basskozz: what's up?
[04:16]  * genii sniffs his armpits and calls his gf
[04:16] <cafuego> pianoboy3333: unpack && patch
[04:16] <DerangedDingo> chilli_: uhh. I think there is a #programming on freenode. It is very, very important you try to not learn from a website. you will do 50 times better from a book
[04:16] <basskozz> I am willing to pay someone $10 (via paypal) if they can help me get VNC working in Xubuntu, See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3821473 for more info and /msg me your e-mail address and I'll send the cash ... PLEASE I am dieing here, I've been trying to get this working for 3 days now :(
[04:16] <Kalamansi> DShepherd: yeah. life in real life is better than in Internet
[04:16] <superbenny> is anyone here familiar with fluxbox?
[04:16] <tntCry> basskozz, lol dont say im dieing , this is just a computer
[04:17] <pianoboy3333> cafuego: a little more specific, how exactly? just untar it and then use patch? I'm not sure how to use patch
[04:17] <zouzou> i am trying to get my tvcard to run on linux,
[04:17] <zouzou> and i installed USBvision but nothing happens when i start tvtime!
[04:17] <dev_> chilli : http://computer.howstuffworks.com/c.htm was very informative for me
[04:17] <zouzou> i have Bus 006 Device 002: ID 2304:0208 Pinnacle Systems, Inc. [hex] Pinnacle Studio PCTV USB2
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Kalamansi: Yes, I have spent days at the terminal with the wife feeding me.  Three days was the longest session
[04:17] <DShepherd> Kalamansi, anyways this is a support channel. #ubuntu-offtopic is right for your type of chatter
[04:17] <tntCry> i have a problem with refresh rate since a month , and every morning i talk here about many things but i always get back to my issue
[04:17] <tarelerulz> how about gurb for dual booting ubuntu and vista ? No problem there or do I need to manual configure the file ?
[04:17] <elec999> thanks guys
[04:17] <elec999> im out
[04:17] <MidnighToker> basskozz: does the webpage access connect? think thats port 5800
[04:17] <elec999> exit
[04:17] <basskozz> tntCry: I am thou... this has been plauging me for 3 days now
[04:17] <chilli_> ok
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !vnc
[04:17] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[04:17] <DShepherd> tarelerulz, it works fine for me
[04:17] <chilli_> whats wrong with websites
[04:17] <tntCry> its plague , and why use xubuntu basskozz ?
[04:17] <cafuego> pianoboy3333: Untar, the diff.gz may or may not be a set of files that would go into debian/patches/ in the unpacked source dir.
[04:17] <Kalamansi> leo_rockw: i cant pay you.im just a worker too...with minimum salary..enough for my kids...milk,food,dress and for their future school and shelter...sometimes i work over time...
[04:17] <Fezzler> Inkscape rock!
[04:17] <tntCry> i have a problem with refresh rate since a month , and every morning i talk here about many things but i always get back to my issue
[04:17] <DShepherd> tarelerulz, install it and it just worked
[04:17] <tntCry> my laptop screen only acceptsd least refresh rate of 60 and maximum of 60  but UBUNTU system says im on 50 , is it just a saying or an engaged authority of linux distro , if so .... i have a book to write about this
[04:18] <superbenny> anyone familiar with fluxbox?
[04:18] <DShepherd> Fezzler, ditto
[04:18] <superbenny> at all?
[04:18] <basskozz> tntCry: using Xubuntu because it's an older machine p3 800mhz
[04:18] <pianoboy3333> cafuego: and then just use soemthing like debuild?
[04:18] <Kalamansi> DShepherd: hehe sorry..
[04:18] <basskozz> tntCry: and was told xubuntu is better/faster on older machines
[04:18] <cafuego> pianoboy3333: To check, cd <sourcedir>; zcat ../patch.diff.gz | patch -p1 --dry-run
[04:18] <soblivion_70> superbenny: i used flux for quite a while
[04:18] <DShepherd> Kalamansi, no problem
[04:18] <tntCry> im on an old laptop 32mb card , 256 ram , p4 1.7ghz basskozz
[04:18] <cafuego> pianoboy3333: if it doesn't report errors remove the --dry-run param
[04:19] <[Neurotic]> does anyone have any good guides for upgrading the iwlwifi drivers from source?  I'm a bit stuck, and I cant get through one point of the on site walkthrough
[04:19] <basskozz> MidnighToker; localhost:5800 shows nothing
[04:19] <tntCry> my laptop screen only acceptsd least refresh rate of 60 and maximum of 60  but UBUNTU system says im on 50 , is it just a saying or an engaged authority of linux distro , if so .... i have a book to write about this
[04:19] <DerangedDingo> chilli_: Websites don't contain the amount of information and depth that books do. You can't fit all of the words on a website that you can inside two book covers... ALTHOUGH, WikiBooks has a good book on C, it's just very hard to understand. If you want to know the language well, START from a book, and then use online resources to understand harder things
[04:19] <MidnighToker> tntCry: please stop re-posting that every 2 min
[04:19] <tntCry> how the hell can you fix REFRESH RATE!???? its stupid or what
[04:19] <MidnighToker> basskozz: how did you install vnc on xubuntu?
[04:19] <chilli_> ok
[04:19] <chilli_> ic
[04:20] <MidnighToker> tntCry: its quite a clever OS. have you tried googling or looking at the config files?
[04:20] <chilli_> ty vm
[04:20] <usser> tntCry: lcd screens dont have refresh rates in the pure sense of the word
[04:20] <basskozz> MidnighToker: using this guide: http://grumpymole.blogspot.com/2006/12/xubuntu-remote-desktop-with-vnc4server.html
[04:20] <sproingie> is there any way to make the shift-switcher in compiz work with alt-tab?
[04:20] <tntCry> then whyt he hell it says 50?
[04:20] <shishirmk> which application has a good download manager??
[04:20] <DerangedDingo> chilli_: np. i tried from websites when i started, but now that i know the language i can just google stuff i don't understand
[04:20] <DShepherd> tntCry, cause its kool
[04:20] <sproingie> i can't seem to bind it to alt-tab at all, it just doesn't detect it
[04:20] <MidnighToker> tntCry: watch your language, and where does it say 50?
[04:20] <MidnighToker> shishirmk: wget :)
[04:20] <usser> tntCry: so whatever the refresh is its probably the native one unless u see any artifacts, problems with graphics
[04:20] <chilli_> ok sweet
[04:20] <tntCry> why the hell it says 50 and sometimes my screen gets dark and many windows are dark colord all black you cant see them someitmes DShepherd MidnighToker and usser
[04:20] <DerangedDingo> chilli_: keyword: 'tried'
[04:21] <Fezzler> tntCrybaby: relax
[04:21] <graelin> tntCry: I read somewhere online the other night about that being a display bug or something.. there was an option line to add to your display device section. Something about TwinView.... can't remember. I did it and didn't get any bad effects, but have since screwed up my conf trying to get my damn mouse to play nice
[04:21] <DShepherd> !911
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 911 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <DShepherd> =)
[04:21] <sproingie> failing that, is there any way to make shift-alt-tab work with the normal task switcher in compiz?
[04:21] <chilli_> lol
[04:21] <chilli_> ok
[04:21] <basskozz> !freenx
[04:21] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[04:21] <mylogic> after modifying my .bashrc file, is there something I need to type to update the changes? maybe updating environment variables somehow?
[04:21] <DShepherd> sproingie, it works here. have you install ccsm?
[04:22] <sproingie> DShepherd: yep, i'm using it now
[04:22] <shishirmk> a good download manager in ubuntu with support to restart downloads and stuff?
[04:22] <StoneNote> freenx rocks.
[04:22] <tntCry> this is my 7th format , believe me before i formatted i had 60 refresh rate on eyecandy showing me the message 60 Refresh Rate , and i can access nvidia-settings in terminal ,... the problem is now i dunno why i have this problem that i had 4 months ago usser graelin MidnighToker DShepherd
[04:22] <DerangedDingo> mylogic: open a new terminal window?
[04:22] <DerangedDingo> mylogic: changes take effect every time you login or start a shell
[04:22] <Altu59> how can I change the shortcut key for deskbar?
[04:22] <basskozz> MidnighToker: can you help?
[04:22] <DShepherd> sproingie, it should be there somewhere. check out the switcher plugin
[04:22] <DerangedDingo> Altu59: System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts
[04:22] <sproingie> i click the keybinding in the "key" column, it says "new accellerator", but it never registers me pressing shift-alt-tab
[04:23] <MidnighToker> basskozz: looks self explanitary, check /var/log/xorg.0.log to see if it loads the vnc module properly
[04:23] <hatter> is anyone aware of any smp problems with the kernel in 7.10 ?
[04:23] <sproingie> DShepherd: i'm in the switcher plugin right now, it just doesn't recognize the shift-alt-tab keypress at all
[04:23] <julio3patas> ok i installed a new hd to my existing ubuntu sys and i created an ext3 /extras using qtparted ,i can see it when i click on konqueror/storage media but when i try to access it it gives me this error hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000
[04:23] <tntCry> btw my lcd didnt work before , i had to type manually in my xorg file by doing the nano command at Ctrl Alt F4 , .. and have Options UseDisplayDevice dfp then ctrl alt f7 then ctrl alt backspace ...
[04:23] <shishirmk> hey please give the name of a good download manager in ubuntu
[04:23] <basskozz> MidnighToker: /var/log/xorg.0.log is empty
[04:23] <DShepherd> sproingie, oh, hmmm... not sure why that is though
[04:23] <shishirmk> i use freeloader it sucks
[04:24] <trwww> I saw an app about a month ago that, among other things, starts apps for you on different workspaces. But I forget the name of it :/ Anyone care to jog my memory?
[04:24] <sproingie> DShepherd: anywhere i can go to manually edit the keybindings?
[04:24] <superbenny> where are the default init/menu files located in fluxbox? i have one in /home/(myname)/.fluxbox and one in /etc/X11/fluxbox
[04:24] <DerangedDingo> julio3patas: try mounting it with sudo
[04:24] <DShepherd> sproingie, I am sure there is. I dont know where to look though
[04:24] <tntCry> im not blaming ubuntu im blameing this laptop lo
[04:24] <DerangedDingo> julio3patas: sudo mount /extras/<NAME OF FILESYSTEM>
[04:25] <tntCry> im pissed now
[04:25] <tntCry> im leaving !
[04:25] <DShepherd> poor guy
[04:25] <Altu59> DerangedDingo: there's no item for deskbar there :-?
[04:25] <RequinB4> anyone willing to think outside of the box to help me get sound back on my Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[04:25] <DerangedDingo> Altu59: i could've sworn there was.
[04:25] <sproingie> DShepherd: just found it in gconf.  hopefully it'll work
[04:25] <stunatra> shishirmk, I use Gwget, it's in the repos.
[04:25] <DerangedDingo> Altu59: is there  apreferences box in deskbar?
[04:25] <Ashfire908> can i boot ubuntu from a hard drive without having grub on a floppy or on the hard drive?
[04:25] <DShepherd> sproingie, ok. good luck
[04:25] <superbenny> where are the default init/menu files located in fluxbox? i have one in /home/(myname)/.fluxbox and one in /etc/X11/fluxbox
[04:25] <basskozz> MidnighToker: /var/log/xorg.0.log is empty
[04:26] <Altu59> DerangedDingo: no
[04:26] <julio3patas> ok now all i want to do is add a new hd to my existing ubuntu sys, how hard could it be????   apparently, very hard gee weez
[04:26] <sproingie> DShepherd: ok this sucks, it does show up in gconf, but as unassigned in ccsm
[04:26] <hatter> julio3patas, did you mount it ?
[04:26] <DerangedDingo> Altu59: try gconf-editor
[04:26] <DerangedDingo> Altu59: h/o i'm adding deskbar to my panel
[04:26] <DShepherd> sproingie, have you tried assignining it in ccsm?
[04:26] <DerangedDingo> julio3patas: it's not very hard.
[04:26] <StoneNote> RequinB4, how about inside the box? run "gnome-volume-control -root-mode"
[04:27] <sproingie> DShepherd: it just doesn't recognize it.  but i changed it from <Shift><Alt>Tab to <Alt><Shift>Tab and now it works
[04:27] <MidnighToker> basskozz: what about the other xorg logs? any fo them not empty?
[04:27] <RequinB4> StoneNote - i can tell you i haven't tried that before, but speaker-test gives me no sound, sec
[04:27] <hatter> julio3patas, linux procedure for new hard disk : partition with fdisk, format with mkfs.ext3 /dev/sd?1 mount /dev/sd?1 /newharddisk
[04:27] <DerangedDingo> Altu59: Right click on Deskbar applet, select Preferences, select the View tab, and the keyboard shortcut is right there.
[04:28] <julio3patas> hatter: so don't use qtparted????
[04:28] <RequinB4> StoneNote - been there
[04:28] <nDevastator> can anyone help me figure out whats wrong with my burner
[04:28] <StoneNote> oh well
[04:28] <sproingie> aside from some rough edges in compiz, i'm pretty impressed on my first day with 7.10
[04:28] <nDevastator> it keeps saying use a lower speed but i chose the slowest speed
[04:28] <RequinB4> I asked outside the box because i haven't gotten it able to work for 2 months
[04:29] <DerangedDingo> my experiences with QTParted have never been very good, but I'm 90% sure it's just a frontend for mkfs, so it really shouldn't matter
[04:29] <sproingie> i never thought 7.04 was much of an improvement over 6.06 but this is really nice
[04:29] <Altu59> DerangedDingo: thanks
[04:29] <RequinB4> compiz-fusion is a lot more clean then beryl in feisty too
[04:29] <sproingie> if it'd only get s/pdif output working on my soundcard now ... but i don't expect miracles, that's more a general linux problem i've had
[04:29] <basskozz> MidnighToker: I see what I was doing wrong here /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:29] <basskozz> Captial 'X'
[04:30] <basskozz> ok I got the log open, now what am I looking for?
[04:30] <julio3patas> i can see the partitin within konqueror ---- storage media ----- /extras but when i try to access it says this     hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000
[04:30] <DerangedDingo> basskozz: to see if it loaded the VNC module incorrectly
[04:30] <DerangedDingo> basskozz: or something like that. just search for vnc
[04:30] <RequinB4> !sound | RequinB4
[04:30] <DerangedDingo> julio3patas: Are you running Konqueror as root??
[04:30] <basskozz> not found
[04:31] <sproingie> i'm an old hand at commandline, but i actually haven't had to reach for it for anything yet
[04:31] <julio3patas> no
[04:31] <basskozz> 'vnc' not found in the log
[04:31] <MidnighToker> basskozz: can you dump it into a pastebin?
[04:31] <nDevastator> can anyone help me with my burner
[04:31] <basskozz> sure... 1sec.
[04:31] <DerangedDingo> julio3patas: are you going to try?
[04:31] <Ashfire908> can i boot ubuntu from a hard drive without having grub on a floppy or on the hard drive?
[04:31] <nDevastator> it seems to loaded fine but wont burn..
[04:31] <hatter> Ashfire908, you can use a cd
[04:31] <MidnighToker> Ashfire908: you could install lilo
[04:31] <hatter> like knoppix
[04:31] <zachary> nDevastator, whats up?
[04:32] <MidnighToker> basskozz: and how are you launching X?
[04:32] <Ashfire908> hatter yes can i use a live cd?
[04:32] <nDevastator> zachary: when i try to burn an iso it says choose a lower speed but i chose the lowest speed... even tho i know the burner supports higher speeds
[04:32] <basskozz> MidnighToker: http://pastebin.com/d70d3f240
[04:32] <Ashfire908> MidnighToker, no i mean no boot loader on the HDD, and i have no floppy
[04:32] <hatter> Ashfire908, yes of course, be sure to make it bootable in the bios
[04:32] <julio3patas> DerangedDingo: i ran sudo konqueror and went into the ---storage media and clicked on  /extras and it says the same   hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000
[04:33] <zachary> nDevastator, and it fails to burn at a low speed?  Or are you wondering why you can't use a higher speed?
[04:33] <DerangedDingo> julio3patas: i think it's a problem with your /etc/fstab
[04:33] <Ashfire908> hatter, no i mean how do i launch the ubuntu on the hdd from the cd?
[04:33] <MidnighToker> Ashfire908: you can get bootable CDs, your bios might support booting from USB
[04:33] <nDevastator> zachary: im wondering why it fails even at low speeds i cant burn anything
[04:33] <DerangedDingo> julio3patas: as in, whatever you typed in it is causing the error, unless your formatted it improperly
[04:33] <hatter> Ashfire908, you can mount it and use chroot
[04:34] <julio3patas> i go back to my original statement ,   i just want to add a new hd to my existing ubuntu system  , how hard could it be????
[04:34] <Ashfire908> hatter, that's not booting ubuntu on the drive.
[04:34] <DerangedDingo> julio3patas: pretty darn easy
[04:34] <hatter> julio3patas, a few people have told you how
[04:34] <zachary> nDevastator, I am not aware of any cd-burning issues with ubuntu.  Perhaps it's the media you are using? Some burners are very specific.
[04:34] <MidnighToker> basskozz: i'm sure you need a module "vnc" in your xorg conf
[04:34] <zachary> nDevastator, Does it crash with an error?
[04:34] <julio3patas> DerangedDingo: ok how come i can still access my new hd and no one seems to have a specific answer
[04:35] <basskozz> MidnighToker: and how would I go about adding that?
[04:35] <nDevastator> zachary: doesnt crach but does spit the disc out with an error
[04:35] <Ashfire908> hatter that's booting a cd and then act like i'm running off the system
[04:35] <StoneNote> RequinB4, "ls -la /dev/dsp" and if it's not crw-rw-rw- then "sudo chmod 666 /dev/dsp"
[04:35] <nDevastator> zachary: however it never starts burning
[04:35] <nDevastator> zachary: disc is still blank
[04:35] <DerangedDingo> julio3patas: because there's a few things that you could have done wrong and we don't know what
[04:35] <MidnighToker> basskozz: with a text editor, and editing the file, i think its /etc/X11/xorg.conf  -sorry, not and xubuntu user
[04:35] <hatter> Ashfire908, yes ,  once you are booted you can use chroot to get into your system
[04:35] <Ashfire908> can i use a live cd as a boot launcher/loader?
[04:36] <julio3patas> i created the partition with qtparted as ext3 i named the mount point /extras it is formatted to ext3 i can see it but it gives me an errot when i try to access it    hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000 so no is not that easy
[04:36] <Ashfire908> that's what i'm asking.
[04:36] <trwww> there tis... devilspie
[04:36] <basskozz> this is getting way too deep for me... I am off to give FreeNX a try instead, will report back.
[04:36] <MidnighToker> Ashfire908: you might be able to get grub to launch from a CD, not easily tho
[04:36] <MidnighToker> basskozz: hang on, you just want to be able to remote login?]
[04:36] <hatter> Ashfire908, i see, you could make a cd do it, just like a floppy is made to do it
[04:36] <ivie_shinta> intan
[04:36] <zachary> nDevastator, Very wierd try running it from a command line:  type - nautilus-cd-burner  an let us know what error if any it gives
[04:37] <RequinB4> StoneNote: crw-rw---- is close enough?  I'd assume not but
[04:37] <DerangedDingo> julio3patas: okay, let me rephrase this: it's easy except for you. the UUID problem can be checked with a terminal command and is making me think it's caused by your /etc/fstab
[04:37] <Ashfire908> hatter: i lack any blank cd-r discs
[04:37] <DerangedDingo> julio3patas: have you rebooted in safe mode to see the error messages at bootup?
[04:37] <hatter> Ashfire908, sool then
[04:37] <Ashfire908> hatter, "sool"?
[04:37] <hatter> 'Shit Out Of Luck'
[04:38] <Ashfire908> hatter, i have a flash drive?
[04:38] <panfist> hi im using 7.10 on a 3 year old hp laptop and it won't come back from suspend, can anyone help me out?
[04:38] <nDevastator> zachary: same thing... same error, but no error in term
[04:38] <hatter> Ashfire908, most new mobos can boot from usb, there is some work setting it up
[04:38] <basskozz> MidnighToker: yes
[04:38] <Naelrssinssrig> looking for help with an acer aspire 5520 laptop.. ubuntu installs but will not boot after the installation
[04:39] <julio3patas> DerangedDingo: for experience people could be as easy as 123 cause you know for newbies it might not be, you all say this is better than win, i will not even go there my point is that if it is so hard for a newbie to add a new hard drive how can you expect for people to acceppt "it"
[04:39] <RequinB4> Naelrssinssrig - at what point exactly does it not go normally
[04:39] <DerangedDingo> julio3patas: http://linux.byexamples.com/archives/321/fstab-with-uuid/
[04:39] <RequinB4> or does it just boot window$
[04:39] <Naelrssinssrig> RequinB4: it installs just fine when I reboot it will not find the hard drive and I end up in a busybox
[04:39] <zachary> nDevastator, hmm, I don't know if I can help you.  I have been using Ubuntu since 6.06 and never experienced burn errors except with bad disks (off brand el cheepos)
[04:39] <MidnighToker> basskozz: X as standard supports remote login. if you're running gnome you can easily allow remote logins from the gdm config and then you can enable remote login, just get to a login screen on another linux box on the network and select log in to remote computer  -done
[04:39] <MidnighToker> julio3patas: you have a new hard drive connected but you can't use it?
[04:40] <Naelrssinssrig> here is my post in the forums
[04:40] <RequinB4> Do you have a harddrive partition
[04:40] <Naelrssinssrig> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=565213&highlight=acer+5520
[04:40] <Ashfire908> hatter, any tutorials on installing grub to a flash drive? (only using 7.04 live cds/any version alternate cd)
[04:40] <basskozz> MidnighToker: I am trying to logon via WinXP box thou
[04:40] <julio3patas> MidnighToker: yes
[04:40] <Naelrssinssrig> yea I have a partition
[04:40] <Naelrssinssrig> I have tried several switches in grub to include noapci
[04:40] <MidnighToker> julio3patas: `sudo fdisk -l` will show you all HDDs and partitions, work out which is your new disk, create a partition and format it. done.
[04:41] <RequinB4> I'd re-install and double check you did the partition correctly, unlikely you could have done anything between installing and the bug started
[04:41] <MidnighToker> basskozz: there is a free program for XP, hang on, i'll boot my winbox and tell you what it is
[04:41] <basskozz> MidnighToker: k, Thanks :)
[04:41] <Naelrssinssrig> RequinB4: I have reinstalled several times..
[04:41] <julio3patas> Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[04:41] <julio3patas> /dev/sdc1   *           1       60801   488384001   83  Linux
[04:42] <Naelrssinssrig> I have been using linux (all kinds of distros) the paritions are correct
[04:42] <Naelrssinssrig> oops using linux for 10 years
[04:42] <julio3patas> MidnighToker: it is there but when i try to access it ,   it says   hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000
[04:42] <RequinB4> Naelrssinssrig, don't know what to tell you if its a HDD problem, beyond me
[04:42] <MidnighToker> julio3patas: edit you user, make sure they're in the hal group
[04:43] <RequinB4> Anyone else want to take a stab at fixing my sound >.>
[04:43] <asathoor> can I safely make a dualboot system with Vista / Ubuntu 7.10?
[04:43] <DerangedDingo> julio3patas: Look, it helps if you're experienced, you're right, but I'm just getting really mad that you're blaming Ubuntu for the trouble you're having
[04:43] <ivie_shinta> hi
[04:43] <MidnighToker> Ashfire908: there are a number of tutorials on creating a whole linux system on USB boot. find one of those, it should give you bootloader info
[04:43] <MidnighToker> asathoor: yes, good luck :)
[04:43] <Cpudan80> asathoor: Yes
[04:43] <asathoor> MidnighToker >> thanx, have u tried it?
[04:43] <riotkittie> asathoor: yes. but bear in mind, anytime you make changes to partitions or the like, you do risk data loss. if you have data that you value, may be wise to back it up.
[04:44] <joeamined> hi
[04:44] <Cpudan80> asathoor: Google, Vista ubuntu dual boot
[04:44] <asathoor> thanx ...
[04:44] <dfliddle> asathoor: I prefer using one main OS with VirtualBox for additional Oses.
[04:44] <RequinB4> asathoor - it works fine
[04:44] <Cpudan80> asathoor: Vista tries to screw it up royally
[04:44] <PatrickPatience> What about Wubi?
[04:44] <RequinB4> asathoor - revision - it works fine for me
[04:44] <Cpudan80> asathoor: There is a good tutorial out there, under that google search term... I forget the exact link
[04:44] <MidnighToker> asathoor: not with ubuntu but other linux's.
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> i have to say.. avoide wubi.
[04:45] <ediktus> how can i install online games? ubuntu cannot read the windows. pls help me..
[04:45] <PatrickPatience> How come?
[04:45] <joeamined> i get the orange color as desktop background when gnome is initializing even though I changed it in desktop background settings and in gdm connection settings
[04:45] <MidnighToker> ediktus: wine might help you
[04:45] <PatrickPatience> How come Dr Willis?
[04:45] <riotkittie> not read which windows, ediktus?
[04:45] <joeamined> i din't get that behaviour in previous gnome versions
[04:45] <Elvis85> RequinB4: i got 82801G High Definition Audio Controller and its working fine ... what did you try so far?
[04:45] <asathoor> I tried xubuntu as a virtual pc, but would prefer a dualboot-system, sinde it's faster
[04:45] <ediktus> executable files
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> PatrickPatience you are better off using normal ubuntu in vmware or virtual box. Much 'safer' and better documented.    wubi is a bit .. odd in ways. :)
[04:45] <RequinB4> Elvis85 - everything and its mother, if you pardon the bad phrase
[04:46] <julio3patas> DerangedDingo: i'm not blaming ubuntu ,   i am saying that regardless of what distro it should not be so hard just to add a new hard drive, yes i am new to linux and yes i like it   but if someting as "basic" as adding a new hard drive to an existing system without having to know what fstab/fdisk and uid then one may consider other options rather than deal with the headaches
[04:46] <dfliddle> asathoor: What I have on my notebook is Ubuntu OS, with Windows as guest ...
[04:46] <riotkittie> joeamined: orange?  o_o
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> PatrickPatience of course it all depends omn your needs.
[04:46] <Elvis85> did you tried alsa drivers?
[04:46] <Naelrssinssrig> hal-problem http://linuxmint.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5798#p41115
[04:46] <dfliddle> asathoor: Windows runs better virtualized than real
[04:46] <RequinB4> i'm trying not to re-install ubuntu because it would be a pain to reset settings
[04:46] <riotkittie> ediktus: you can try installing them with wine but i'm not sure they're going to work
[04:46] <RequinB4> alsa is updated
[04:46] <riotkittie> !wine | ediktus
[04:46] <ubotu> ediktus: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[04:46] <mylogic> does anyone have a good .bashrc that they would be willing to pass on? I need a base.
[04:46] <RequinB4> hold on ima check something
[04:46] <MidnighToker> RequinB4: for most of it just backup /home and you should kepe most of your user settings
[04:46] <Zippy111> hi guys, newbie back here just a quick question about enabling 2 restricted drivers?
[04:47] <DerangedDingo> julio3patas: a lot of beginning users have no problems adding hard drives, is another point of mine
[04:47] <riotkittie> mylogic: err. what kind of base?
[04:47] <CrazyPoultry> i just installed ubuntu-desktop from a kubuntu install, i'm trying to setup compiz , from preferences > appearance trying to enable the custom option i get the error "The Composite extension is not available", any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> mylogic check the advanced-bash-scripting guide - they have a well dopcumented one or 2 in there.
[04:47] <RequinB4> i can't 'modprobe sda-hda-intel'
[04:47] <Elvis85> oh...
[04:47] <riotkittie> joeamined: are you using gutsy?
[04:47] <Zippy111> everytime i go to enable the restriced drivers i get bcm43xx-fwcutter is not enabled
[04:47] <DerangedDingo> julio3patas: i'm just gonna shut up now, though. it doesn't matter, anyway
[04:47] <asathoor> dfliddle >> ok, I'll do that on my stationary pc then :). But my laptop is provided by the job, so I cannot put ubuntu first...
[04:47] <mylogic> riotkittie, well I just deleted mine thinking I made a copy and I didn't haha -- does the file regenerate itself or not?
[04:47] <RequinB4> FATAL: Module sda_hda_intel not found.
[04:47] <BassKozz_> MidnighToker, and luck on that XP app for remote logon?
[04:48] <Zippy111> any idea what i can do?
[04:48] <MidnighToker> xming
[04:48] <riotkittie> mylogic: uhmmm. uhmm. uhmm. hold a sec.
[04:48] <BassKozz_> and* any
[04:48] <hatter> julio3patas, if its a new hard drive then start again, repartition, format ext3 again then mount
[04:48] <RequinB4> is the exact error (which tells me a lot btw thx modprobe program -.-)
[04:48] <dfliddle> asathoor: Sorry. So's mine, but I have a lot of freedom with it. :-)
[04:48] <MidnighToker> basskozz: sorry, took a while for my vmware box to boot  -i need more ram :)  but yeah, its ccalled xming
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> xming is a handy tool.
[04:48] <ediktus> ok, thks a lot. I will search for Wine
[04:48] <BassKozz_> I am using xming, and I love it... the problem is I don't know how to use it as a "Full Desktop Environment" viewer, I can only open individual apps
[04:48] <Zippy111> anyone? :(
[04:48] <BassKozz_> How can I get Xming to display the full desktop?
[04:49] <riotkittie> mylogic: cp /usr/share/base-files/dot.bashrc ~  then rename it
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> BassKozz_ with the xming wizard - you have to select the right options.   I recall.
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> BassKozz_ i haventused that - in that way in ages
[04:49] <BassKozz_> I've gone thru the wizard and I can't get it to open the full desktop
[04:49] <MidnighToker> basskozz: lucky you, i cant get individual apps :) but yeah, in the wizard check th elatest version
[04:49] <pinecone> pclug
[04:49] <MidnighToker> o
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> BassKozz_ i think you ned to have it run 'startkde' or 'gnome-session'
[04:49] <julio3patas> DerangedDingo: maybe i am doing something wron,   that was my first quetion whether i should use qtparted which i did to create an ext3 partition , i just can't access it cause it says hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000,   i did run qtparted as root maybe that have something to do with it , i don't know, i came here for info , not to piss anyone off, have to admit that is frustrating tho
[04:49] <Zippy111> can anyone PLEASE help me!!!
[04:50] <BassKozz_> but if I type in "gedit" for instance it will open gedit in winxp
[04:50] <PatrickPatience> Dr_Willis it's because I only have 512 ram, so Virtual Box is slow for me.
[04:50] <BassKozz_> I am using Xubntu, do you know which one it is?
[04:50] <RequinB4> grr, i guess i'll reinstall tomorrow...  anything special to copy /home or just 'sudo mv'
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> BassKozz_ no idea there.  it uses xfce., so i would guess 'startxfce'
[04:50] <MidnighToker> basskozz: you're going to want to start X with gdm, that will let you log in
[04:51] <BassKozz_> whats the exact terminal command?
[04:51] <BassKozz_> to put into putty
[04:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !broadcom > Zippy111
[04:51] <genii> BassKozz_: Probably more help for that in #windows
[04:51] <MidnighToker> basskozz: thats all I do, let the gui logon manager run on the headless box and then the clients conenct to that  -i have it as an init script
[04:51] <Zippy111> Ehyyy jack thanks for your attention, im a real newb here, jumped in head first and got rid of vista so plz bear with me
[04:51] <Shahar> is there a way to create a HFS+ file system on ubuntu?
[04:51] <MidnighToker> genii: the problem is on hte linux side  -he isn't running a login manager, so the remote X session cant connect to log in :)
[04:52] <RiXtEr> hey guys what package would i find aclocal in ?
[04:52] <julio3patas> i'm giving it a break till tomorrow , maybe do some reading online thanks for all the suggestions
[04:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Zippy111: I am shutting sown for the night, just hoped that would pint you in the right direction
[04:52] <Jack_Sparrow> point
[04:52] <MidnighToker> mmm pint
[04:52] <RequinB4> stay focused now >.>
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> BassKozz_ actually now that i amt rying it again.. I belive i used the xdmcp feature for the full desktop. :)
[04:52] <Zippy111> what am i supposed to do?i havent a clue?
[04:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Zippy111: Yea, had a few of those today too
[04:52] <genii> MidnighToker: Ah, OK. I had gathered instead that he wanted to just make the X window occupy the entire screen instead of being windowed
[04:52] <dev_> qemu -boot d -cdrom live_image.iso doesn't work anymore with gutsy, it says can't find root file system
[04:52] <Shahar> Zippy111: what's up?
[04:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Zippy111: Read that link.. it is vry easy.
[04:53] <basskozz> xdmcp?
[04:53] <basskozz> !xdmcp
[04:53] <ubotu> xdmcp is the X Display Manger Control Protocol -- look at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/ to find out how to configure it
[04:53] <Elvis85> i know i had problem with sound when i first installed ubuntu... i know it was related to the ESD thing... something like killall ESD and then i was able to enable alsa drivers
[04:53] <PatrickPatience> I like how chatty this channel is.
[04:53] <MidnighToker> genii: i believe he wants a full desktop rather than just a gui app
[04:53] <Zippy111> hi shahar i think i got it pal
[04:53] <PatrickPatience> Go to any program channel no one talks. :|
[04:53] <mzuverink> sudenly acroreader is coming up with an error message stating that it inneds the location of the html rendering lib, libgtkembedmoz.  Nothing that I can remember caused this error to start but my kids were on my user account, wher is that lib located?
[04:53] <Shahar> PatrickPatience, 1113 people can have that affect.
[04:54] <basskozz> Unknown Start Job (KDE, Gnome-Session, Xfce)
[04:54] <basskozz> Any others I coudl try
[04:54] <Shahar> mzuverink: /usr/lib/firefox on my computer
[04:54] <Shahar> mzuverink: use "locate" to see if it's on yours
[04:54] <MidnighToker> basskozz: you might need to install gdm (the gnome display manager)
[04:54] <RiXtEr> BassKozz did you use /etc/init.d/gdm start?
[04:54] <Shahar> as in "locate libgtkembedmoz"
[04:54] <RequinB4> Elvis85 - well i have the drivers just not the module if i understand my problem correctly
[04:54] <Shahar> or just reinstall firefox
[04:55] <RequinB4> I also know that there is about a billion litle fixes/problems with this sound card
[04:55] <Shahar> apt-get remove firefox && apt-get install firefox
[04:55] <basskozz> for example I can open xeyes and it will popup on XP, but I dont' get the fulle desktop w/login
[04:55] <RequinB4> apt-get moo
[04:55] <mzuverink> Shahar, trying the firefox, that one made sense to me too, but seemed to obvious, so i thought id ask, thanks
[04:55] <basskozz> RiXtEr: what's /etc/init.d/gdm start
[04:55] <Shahar> basskozz: are you trying to get a full X login on your windows machine?
[04:55] <MidnighToker> basskozz: i believe you need the login manager running on the computer, that would be gdm (for gnome, or "the gnome one") -thats an init script -starts system services
[04:56] <MidnighToker> `/etc/init.d/gdm start` to start it
[04:56] <RiXtEr> BassKozz it will start the gnome desktop manager
[04:56] <Shahar> chkconfig gdm on
[04:56] <Shahar> :-)
[04:56] <RiXtEr> six ways to do the same thing ;)
[04:56] <RequinB4> 'sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop' should give you the desktop if you don't have it
[04:56] <Shahar> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop is a better bet
[04:57] <RequinB4> haven't tried, so if you say so
[04:57] <RiXtEr> so can anyone point me to the package that might have aclocal in it?
[04:57] <Elvis85> i noticed u have rev 2... maybe its somehow different... i dont remember having problems with any module...
[04:57] <demortes> RiXtEr - sudo apt-cache search aclocal
[04:57] <mzuverink> Shahar, that was not it...
[04:58] <open_lad> how to install uybuntu from iso file???
[04:58] <MidnighToker> open_lad: burn the iso to a CD
[04:58] <RequinB4> open_lad: you have to burn a CD - R with that iso file
[04:58] <RiXtEr> demortes: it pops back to the prompt.
[04:58] <MidnighToker> open_lad: dont just burn a CD with that file on it, you need to burn the image to the disk
[04:58] <RequinB4> if you look on ubuntu site there is a link to a open source CD burner if you need it
[04:58] <RequinB4> yes, don't just copy the file to CD
[04:58] <demortes> or on Windows XP, CDBurnerXP I think
[04:59] <basskozz> I've heard the gnome desktop is slower then Xfce (Xubuntu) are u sure it's ok if I install that?
[04:59] <RiXtEr> cdburnerxp is a good free one.
[04:59] <demortes> Isn't xfce bare min?
[04:59] <MidnighToker> basskozz: gnome is a little more bloated, but possibly nicer, if you prefer it. xfce is a good alternative
[04:59] <tarelerulz> Can you tell Ubuntu 7.04 to install the grub in the Linux Partion and not mbr ?
[04:59] <open_lad> i downloaded ubuntustudio. which is cdimage of 800mb but it donot get burn to cd  due to less space and donot burn to dvd=r . it says mediup donot match
[04:59] <RequinB4> hey since i'm here waiting for a sound guru to get on - how do i change the background color during logon?  my splash screen is really small
[05:00] <MidnighToker> demortes: xfce is a rather nice little cutdown DE
[05:00] <open_lad> so what is the option
[05:00] <demortes> tarelerulz - Yes you can, but I don't know how well it works, since I've never tried it
[05:00] <demortes> tarelerulz - At the end, you just tell it the partition, rather than the HDD
[05:00] <tarelerulz> Do have gurb install on the mbr and call it good
[05:00] <basskozz> MidnighToker: I wish I could figure out how to start the XFCE desktop from Terminal (putty ssh) because I am sure that would work for Xming, since I am able to open up other apps
[05:01] <RiXtEr> so.... no one has any idea where i could find aclocal ?
[05:01] <MidnighToker> basskozz: becuase its a DE i'm sure it needs a DE to run it. if you look in /etc/X11/Sessions it might have a launcher file for xfce, cat that and see what it does
[05:01] <demortes> RiXtEr - Pull up terminal and do "sudo apt-cache search aclocal"
[05:01] <mzuverink> Shahar, though I tried /usr/bin/... not usr/lib/firefox... which IS what is was looking for.  Too much turkey i think, I mean it did say they were looking for a lib, duh...
[05:02] <RiXtEr> demortes: I just did... there is no results.
[05:02] <demortes> RiXtEr Oh, hrm. Hold on
[05:02] <tarelerulz> The size of the swap file is two time the amount of memorie you have right ?
[05:03] <MidnighToker> tarelerulz: yeah, but cap it at 1gb usually.
[05:03] <Some_Person> How can I duplicate a user account?
[05:03] <cthulfuego> tarelerulz: No, there is no need for that.
[05:03] <tarelerulz> Well, I have one gig of ram as it is so the swap would be 2 gb
[05:03] <demortes> RiXtEr - libguile-dev - Development headers and static library for libguile - Returned for apt-cache search aclocal
[05:03] <demortes> what version of Ubuntu?
[05:04] <RiXtEr> fiesty
[05:04] <demortes> RiXtEr That's from an LTS version, server.
[05:04] <cthulfuego> tarelerulz: The 2xram rule is from 1997. There is no need for it now. Just make sure you have enough swap to suspend to disk.
[05:04] <RiXtEr> demortes:  what ?
[05:04] <demortes> RiXtEr - Headless machine returned that one... try it
[05:05] <Elvis85> RequinB4: did you tried that http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1742116?
[05:05] <tarelerulz> SO how do you know how much swap you need then? Cthulfuego ? just asking here
[05:05] <Elvis85> without question mark
[05:05] <MidnighToker> night guys
[05:05] <cthulfuego> tarelerulz: On a desktop box, anywhere between zero and lots, depending on what you plan to do with the machine.
[05:05] <stella> how do you get a dvd to play in ubuntu
[05:06] <open_lad> : i downloaded ubuntustudio. which is cdimage of 800mb but it donot get burn to cd  due to less space and donot burn to dvd=r . it says mediup donot match
[05:06] <open_lad> : i downloaded ubuntustudio. which is cdimage of 800mb but it donot get burn to cd  due to less space and donot burn to dvd=r . it says mediup donot match. What is the option for me to install it???
[05:06] <demortes> open_lad I believe youc an burn to CD....
[05:06] <rattts> does linux have an equivalent to media player classic of vlc media player?
[05:06] <cthulfuego> tarelerulz: http://etbe.coker.com.au/2007/09/28/swap-space/
[05:07] <rattts> does linux have an equivalent to media player classic of vlc media player?
[05:07] <Amendt> rattts yes
[05:07] <rattts> wats it called?
[05:07] <cthulfuego> Linux has vlc.
[05:07] <rattts> ok kool
[05:08] <rattts> so sudo apt get install vlc media player?
[05:08] <cthulfuego> 'apt-cache search vlc'
[05:08] <defrysk> sudo apt get install vlc
[05:08] <cthulfuego> Then use the package name it finds.
[05:08] <RequinB4> Elvis85 - yep
[05:08] <demortes> rattts - sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:08] <Amendt> yes
[05:08] <Some_Person> How can I set permissions for a whole set of folders?
[05:09] <cthulfuego> Use the -R flag to chmod. Use with care!
[05:09] <genii> chmod -R <whatever permissions here> /dir
[05:09] <h1st0> Wow 8B/s of ubuntu server wtf.
[05:09] <demortes> Yes, chmod -R 777 / is bad
[05:09] <Some_Person> thanks
[05:09] <cthulfuego> demortes: Not half as bad as chmod -R 000 /
[05:09] <Amendt> what is that firefox plugin that allows me to load websites only designed for IE?
[05:09] <genii> demortes: sudo chmod -R -x /    is worse
[05:10] <demortes> cthulfuego Touche....
[05:10] <demortes> and genii
[05:10] <defrysk> Amendt, probably a user-agent plugin or something
[05:10] <chilli_> what is a good programing program C
[05:10] <cthulfuego> Mind you, it *is* nice and secure ;-)
[05:10] <sproingie> chilli_: the linux kernel :)
[05:10]  * genii thinks chilli_ has C on the brain tonight
[05:10] <h1st0> chilli_: vim or any text editor
[05:10] <demortes> cthulfuego - The only secure box is one you don't use :P
[05:11] <Amendt> defrysk i tryed searching for emulate
[05:11] <StoneNote> c is a good language to program c in
[05:11] <Amendt> nothing
[05:11] <chilli_> ok
[05:11] <h1st0> demortes: not necessarily.  basically the only secure box is offline. and not used.
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> basskozz still trying to get a full desktop on xming?
[05:11] <cthulfuego> demortes: I don't use windows, does that make windows secure? ;-)
[05:11] <chilli_> im trying 2 get ecere
[05:11] <sproingie> StoneNote: i disagree, i like to write prolog in c.  setjmp/longjmp are my friends!
[05:11]  * sproingie eyes himself warily
[05:11] <cthulfuego> chilli_: http://groups.google.com/group/CppForum/browse_thread/thread/3a40f9ad4314b9f9
[05:12] <defrysk> Amendt, look here https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:1
[05:12] <StoneNote> sproingie, at least you didn't say you like to write your C in COBOL
[05:12] <chilli_> ok
[05:12] <RiXtEr> Amendt: is it ietabs ?
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> basskozz if so - i did it using the xdmcp feature - i had to enable it in kdm, (or gdm if you use that) info on kdm = http://klomdark.servebeer.com:8081/MessageBase2/ReadMessage.aspx?MsgNum=1967
[05:12] <RiXtEr> Amendt: if it is that plugin actually uses ie.
[05:12] <demortes> IE installable and useable under wine?
[05:13] <RiXtEr> I doubt it.
[05:13] <cthulfuego> IE6 yes
[05:13] <Amendt> it is not ie tabs too many firefox pluggins
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> demortes thers is a ie4wine web site/prog/tool i recall..never used it.
[05:13] <demortes> Dr_Willis hehe, don't know the use, but that's interesting
[05:13] <sproingie> StoneNote: i've often heard cobol would be better if it allowed profanity as reserved words.   Just need to download the plugin to allow Firefox to change it's UserAgent
[05:14] <defrysk> demortes, http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page has some info to set up explorer with a script
[05:15] <demortes> defrysk - At work, not gonna try it now :P
[05:15] <StoneNote> sproingie, heh. I've coded it.  you mean F**ING LABELS ARE F***ING STANDARD.
[05:15] <defrysk> demortes, omg :s I created a monster
[05:15] <sproingie> StoneNote: oh F***, you're right
[05:15] <chilli_> oik
[05:16] <demortes> defrysk Nah, on Windoz I still use Firefox and THunderbird
[05:16] <chico_cam> hola alguna girl to speak with my
[05:16] <sproingie> with your ....
[05:16] <chico_cam> si.yes
[05:16] <c0Ld> has anyone ever gotten networking/internet access to work with slackware in virtualbox before?
[05:16] <Amendt> thanks defrysk and others!          IE View Lite          by Grayson Mixon     should work
[05:17] <chico_cam> in private please
[05:17] <Jimdb> anyone been able to get the firefox 3 beta installed on ubuntu?
[05:17] <Csaba> Dr_Willis.. i got Firefox3 running
[05:17] <tarelerulz> Well, my new HP Pavilion dv6604cl I play to watch avi ,watch dvd and download movies etc
[05:17] <jamiejackson> trying to record while playing in audacity, but playback stutters. anybody have tips on what to try/where to go next?
[05:17] <Jimdb> i get error messages in the script.
[05:18] <Shahar> jamiejackson: what are your load averages while doing this?
[05:18] <jamiejackson> Shahar: hmm, you mean cpu load?
[05:18] <Shahar> jamiejackson: yep
[05:19] <Shahar> Jimdb: if you really want to run the firefox beta, compile it from source
[05:19] <Shahar> but I advise against
[05:19] <MFen> hi!
[05:19] <defrysk> Shahar, you can just download the binaries too
[05:19] <MFen> how do i change the default actions for things that launch apps? in particular media programs
[05:19] <CaRtz> hi, do people usually prefer ubuntu than slax?
[05:19] <MFen> for example, a blank disc launches serpentine, a disk with music launches sound juicer
[05:20] <Shahar> CaRtz: isn't slax a livecd?
[05:20] <MFen> i want to change those default choices, or at least stop any app from launching
[05:20] <jamiejackson> Shahar: That doesn't seem to be the bottleneck. One core is at 55%, the other has little utilization.
[05:20] <defrysk> CaRtz, /j #slax
[05:20] <Jimdb> the installer script fails and really don't think it is approopriate these days to ask anyone to compile from source.
[05:20] <tarelerulz> I am still lost as to how much  swap should be . I have  1gb of ram. So what should the swap be
[05:20] <CaRtz> ok
[05:20] <Shahar> Jimdb: It's always appropriate to ask people to compile from source.
[05:21] <defrysk> tarelerulz, if you have the space 2 gigs
[05:21] <Shahar> tarelerulz, tradition has always been ram*2
[05:21] <Jimdb> shahar:  no, it is inappropriate, and always has been, but much more offensive to ask them to in this day and age.
[05:21] <Shahar> Jimdb: that's a load of crap.  The fun of all Linux .  Or the best is when something don't work haha
[05:22] <Shahar> CaRtz: IIRC slax is a livecd distribution, which makes it incomperable to ubuntu
[05:22] <MFen> so nobody knows how to change the default apps? stop serpentine/sound juicer from launching?
[05:22] <sproingie> gentoo is over that-a-way.
[05:22] <Shahar> Jimdb: I would much prefer a fridge or a tv that would come as a kit, that way I would know how to fix it if something went wrong
[05:22] <Shahar> or at least have a much better idea
[05:23] <sproingie> Shahar: if you want gentoo you know where to find it
[05:23] <bazhang> MFen: install the ones you want and map the apps to the various items you want to launch
[05:23] <Shahar> sproingie: yeah I do, but when I want to install a single piece of software in beta then I know where to download the source.
[05:23] <Jimdb> shahar:  that's fine for you, but you don't ask most people to assemble their own TV or refrig.   You get the point.  You just don't ask people to compile any more because it is inappropriate and often offensive to request it.
[05:23] <MFen> bazhang: i already have installed the ones i want. mapping the apps is the hard part
[05:24] <sproingie> incidentally the tradition of ram*2 is an artifact of linux's long-gone buddy allocator.  the correct answer to "how much swap" nowadays is "as much as you need"
[05:24] <MFen> bazhang: i don't know what mechanism causes gnome to decide to launch some app when a cd goes in the drive
[05:24] <Shahar> sproingie: I always wondered where that tradition came from
[05:24] <Burlynn> MFen: some of what your looking for is under preferences -> removable drives and media
[05:24] <Shahar> but 2*ram seems to be as good a guess as any
[05:24] <MFen> Burlynn: aha!
[05:24] <Cpudan80> Ok everyone
[05:24] <sproingie> Shahar: it used to panic the kernel if you allocated less than 2x the system ram
[05:24] <Cpudan80> I switched my gfx card driver to the propriety ATi driver, but now it won't display right
[05:25] <Shahar> that's hilarious
[05:25] <bazhang> MFen: a window should open up and prompt you to choose an option--is not configure an option as well?
[05:25] <Cpudan80> I switched it back to the previous setting, but I cant get it to stick...
[05:25] <buttercups> MFen, Alt+F2, gnome-control-center,Removable drives,Multimedia
[05:25] <sproingie> Shahar: that was a bug fixed long ago, but it sorta persists as a myth that it's more efficient at certain sizes, etc
[05:25] <MFen> buttercups, Burlynn: thanks, that was it
[05:25] <Cpudan80> It stays at Generic Vesa
[05:26] <Shahar> sproingie: I mean, at 4gb it's kind of unnecessary to have a swap, but with 500 gb hard disks spinning at 15k rpms etc, there's no real reason not to have 8gb
[05:26] <Cpudan80> If anyone has any ideas... they are much appreciated !
[05:26] <darkentity> are they planning on making kiba dock look a little like apples stacks?  where could i email to recommend this to them
[05:27] <sproingie> Shahar: sure, but only if you're actually going to use that 8G
[05:27] <ere4si> !ati
[05:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:27] <CrazyPoultry> i just installed ubuntu-desktop from a kubuntu 7.10 install, i'm trying to setup compiz , from preferences > appearance trying to enable the custom option i get the error "The Composite extension is not available", any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated
[05:27] <darkentity> nevermind i got it
[05:27] <Shahar> Cpudan80: worst case, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, find the line that says "Driver "vesa"" and change it to rage128 or whatever
[05:27] <bazhang> CrazyPoultry: do you have ccsm installed?
[05:28] <Cpudan80> Shahar: I have a backup of the file
[05:28] <Cpudan80> I might restore it
[05:28] <Shahar> that might be best
[05:28] <Shahar> but read that help page
[05:28] <CrazyPoultry> bazhang: the settings manager?
[05:28] <sproingie> i had to install xserver-xgl by hand to get compiz to work.  maybe it's an ati thing
[05:29] <Cpudan80> Shahar: It's a laptop --- I dont think the drivers support my model
[05:29] <Shahar> ATI's drivers have always been flaky
[05:29] <Cpudan80> The good news is it's fixed anyway
[05:29] <MFen> thanks, #ubuntu
[05:29] <sproingie> er install by hand meaning install it myself, not compile (that'd be insane)
[05:29] <bazhang> CrazyPoultry: yes the compizconfig-settings-manager called advanced desktop effects manager I believe
[05:29] <danny> Can anybody help me get an emerald theme working how do i enable it?
[05:29] <Shahar> Cpudan80: the rumor is that they support all cards
[05:29] <Nicark> hey guys. is there a tool i can change a partition with linux to resize it so i can create another partition?
[05:29] <Shahar> nvidia now has 2 sets I think
[05:29] <Cpudan80> Note to self: Do not ever mess around in the screens/gfx window
[05:29] <jamiejackson> trying to record while playing in audacity, but playback stutters. dual core processor has one core at 55%, so that doesn't seem to be the bottleneck. anybody have tips on what to try/where to go next?
[05:29] <brinker> Okay. I'm working on someone else's 7.10 install. They managed to totally bone their ATI drivers. How do I restore them to the version that was on the CD?
[05:29] <CrazyPoultry> bazhang: yea it's installed
[05:29] <int86> CAn somebody help me installing Nvidia 5200
[05:29] <Shahar> one for old cards and one for new cards
[05:29] <sproingie> danny: run emerald --replace
[05:29] <bazhang> danny: alt f2 emerald --replace
[05:29] <Cpudan80> Shahar: Well... ehh I'd rather not mess with anymore lol
[05:29] <sproingie> i found emerald's themes pretty buggy
[05:30] <sproingie> window decorations disappearing all over the place
[05:30] <bazhang> CrazyPoultry: did you alt f2 compiz --replace?
[05:30] <demortes> int86 - What do you need?
[05:31] <brinker> How do you reinstall the ATI drivers?
[05:31] <mrkawfee> anyone have a suggestion as to how i might capture a video of all the cool things my compiz does without a capture card or a video camera?  I want to make a short video clip of some kind.
[05:31] <darkentity> gtkdesktop
[05:31] <buttercups> brinker, was this ati driver installed using the restricted driver manager?
[05:31] <h1st0> mrkawfee: there are plenty of apps.
[05:31] <darkentity> gtk record my desktop
[05:31] <darkentity> go to add and remove and search for it
[05:31] <int86> demortes when I switch to 5200 display , booting stop at progress bar page
[05:32] <h1st0> mrkawfee: perhaps you might want to use the one people use for screencasts?
[05:32] <brinker> buttercups: Frankly, I have not even the slightest clue. It's whatever was set up by default off the CD install.
[05:32] <mrkawfee> havent heard of it, but i am listening... :)
[05:32] <darkentity> click applications
[05:32] <brinker> Not my laptop, unfortunately, so I'm not entirely sure what happened.
[05:32] <rattts> anyone use netscan for windows?
[05:32] <darkentity> add/remove
[05:32] <CrazyPoultry> bazhang: "Checking for Xgl: not present.  No whitelisted driver found aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity " was the result, sorry if this is something stupid i mised still new to linux in general
[05:32] <darkentity> type in gtk
[05:32] <darkentity> and scroll to find gtk record my desktop
[05:33] <h1st0> mrkawfee: xvidcap istanbul etc... all should work
[05:33] <bazhang> CrazyPoultry: which video card? you may need to install the correct driver
[05:33] <mrkawfee> cool, thanks for the tip...i'm checkin into it now....
[05:33] <CMCDragonkai> Hey, has anyone found flash support in Mozilla for Ubuntu 64 bit?
[05:33] <bazhang> rattts: you could ask in ##windows
[05:33] <Some_Person> How do I make another user account with the exact same settings for every single app as mine?
[05:33] <buttercups> brinker, simply un checking the box in the restricted driver manager will do
[05:33] <CrazyPoultry> bazhang: Ati
[05:33] <darkentity> cool...it saves the output to .ogg format
[05:33] <rattts> anyone use kismet or anything like that to retrieve wep passwords?
[05:33] <bazhang> CrazyPoultry: which one?
[05:33] <int86> demortes: somebody told me to reconfigure the xorg, but how to do that, will I have to download nvidiadrivers too
[05:34] <CrazyPoultry> bazhang: not sure tbh
[05:34] <brinker> buttercups: Just checked, there's nothing listed in the restricted manager.
[05:34] <Csaba> i had nvidia issues, someone from here suggested i try envy
[05:34] <darkentity> ubuntu is so cool i got my whole desktop to look like leopard osx
[05:34] <defrysk> Csaba, dont advise envy here
[05:35] <Csaba> fair enuff
[05:35] <bazhang> Csaba: no need for it, may break your machine
[05:35] <darkentity> i dont get optimal refresh rate too on my nvidia card i have a 7800 gp
[05:35] <defrysk> !worksforme | Csaba
[05:35] <ubotu> Csaba: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[05:35] <xwinders> what's wrong with envy? worked for me
[05:35] <Zippy111> Hi guys back again, just wanna say 2 things, 1 thanks I got my wireless working, 2 last prob, how do i get my graphics working? it says ATI accelerated graphics driver is in the restricted drivers section I have followed this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI but it hasnt worked for me, any ideas guys?
[05:35] <darkentity> and i get like 60hz max
[05:35] <darkentity> i wanna get 75hz minimum
[05:35] <darkentity> but i dont know how to
[05:35] <defrysk> !worksforme > xwinders
[05:36] <abhi> how do i enable the expose feature on compiz in gutsy? i like compiz on gutsy otherwise. it's neat. the cube was too much eye candy
[05:36] <abhi> but the horizontal desktop switcher is practical
[05:36] <crdlb> abhi: shift+alt+up
[05:36] <bazhang> abhi: it's the scale plugin
[05:36] <buttercups> brinker, reconfigure your x, choose ati for driver, make sure xorg-driver-fglrx is not installed in Synaptic
[05:36] <CrazyPoultry> bazhang: mobility radeon x600 sorry took a min to remember
[05:37] <darkentity> exposure??
[05:37] <Zippy111> anyone? just a quick pointer uin the direction will do! :)
[05:37] <bazhang> CrazyPoultry: have you enabled the restricted drivers?
[05:37] <xwinders> defrysk: so it doesn't work for everybody then?
 superlogo+e
[05:37] <bazhang> err installed
[05:37] <abhi> bazhang: how do i enable the scale when i go to the corner of the screen?
[05:37] <CrazyPoultry> bazhang: yes
[05:37] <demortes> Zippy111 Update your sources, especially enable universe.
[05:37] <abhi> bazhang: how do i do a ZOOM?
[05:37] <Zippy111> it says its already updated mate
[05:37] <bazhang> abhi: under keybindings--click the plugin and then choose keybindings then choose the corner you want
[05:37] <darkentity> superlogo+ mouse wheel
[05:38] <demortes> Zippy111 Than I'm tapped out :P
[05:38] <Zippy111> lol cool, thanks anyway dude
[05:38] <darkentity> one of the best features i think of beryl is that zoom
[05:38] <defrysk> xwinders, no it does not and it can break systems
[05:38] <brinker> buttercups: Now how do I reconfigure X?
[05:38] <sproingie> is there a real expose-like plugin for compiz, i.e. one that actually reduces the windows to be visible instead of zoomed out?
[05:38] <abhi> bazhang: whereis keybindings?
[05:38] <Some_Person> How do I duplicate a user account so it has the exact same settings for everything as mine does?
[05:38] <darkentity> u wanna fade the windows out sproingie?
[05:38] <bazhang> abhi: you need to have ccsm installed
[05:38] <buttercups> brinker, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:39] <abhi> ccsm? why don't u guys just bundle it by default. it'll save lot of trouble
[05:39] <crdlb> sproingie: huh?
[05:39] <crdlb> sproingie: scale is expose almost exactly
[05:39] <sproingie> darkentity: expose on the mac shrinks the windows til they don't overlap.  the expose feature in compiz just zooms out
[05:39] <joanki> i'm trying to oplay a dvd, but it's not working - which software should i use?
[05:40] <sproingie> crdlb: hm, i'll try that one
[05:40] <crdlb> sproingie: there's an organic layout mode for scale but it's broken right now so it's not included by default
[05:40] <darkentity> oh i see
[05:40] <crdlb> sproingie: I think you're using "Expo" :)
[05:40] <anow> I'm running dual screen, and the screen is making me pan around to beable to see anything.
[05:40] <anow> any ideas?
[05:40] <crdlb> which is unrelated
[05:40] <Zippy111> anyone know how i can enable xorg-driver-fglrx
[05:40] <sproingie> crdlb: yeah that.  which is a kind of uninteresting plugin
[05:41] <silencer666> Is Ubuntu recommended for "normal consumers" like myself?
[05:41] <bazhang> yes indeed
[05:41] <anow> I'm running dual screen, and the screen is making me pan around to beable to see anything. Any Ideas?
[05:41] <crdlb> sproingie: it's more like "Spaces" on OS X
[05:41] <xwinders> defrysk: after trying everything else envy kept me from reverting back to FC
[05:41] <darkentity> oh true i want to learn how to do that where i can get all my windows to pane out
[05:41] <darkentity> in equal boxes
[05:42] <demortes> silencer666 - Dell sells computers with Ubuntu on them, I think you'll be safe :)
[05:42] <caligarn1037> silencer666: what do you want out of ubuntu?
[05:42] <darkentity> i think compiz has that feature
[05:42] <anow> ...
[05:42] <joanki> i'm trying to oplay a dvd, but it's not working - which software should i use?
[05:42] <joanki> can anyone please just telll me which software to use?
[05:42] <darkentity> try mplayer
[05:42] <darkentity> joanki
[05:42] <darkentity> mplayer
[05:42] <brinker> buttercups: Okay, I hope this is going to work now. Gonna do a restart here.
[05:42] <joanki> totem mplayer?
[05:42] <danny> How do i install a splash screen on ubuntu 7.10
[05:42] <crdlb> darkentity: if you're using compiz now, press shift+alt+up
[05:42] <darkentity> joanki
[05:42] <Some_Person> danny: it comes with one
[05:42] <joanki> how do i get the right plugins?
[05:43] <darkentity> thanks some person
[05:43] <joanki> it says it cannot play it because it does not have the appropriate plugins to be able to read from the disc
[05:43] <darkentity> works beautifully
[05:43] <sproingie> oh hey scale is exactly it.  now i wish i had buttons 6 and 7 working on my mouse, i'd activate it with that
[05:43] <danny> Some_Person: comes with one of what?
[05:43] <caligarn1037> libdvd?
[05:43] <darkentity> joanki
[05:43] <darkentity> do this
[05:43] <joanki> k
[05:43] <darkentity> go to add/remove
[05:43] <Some_Person> danny: it comes with a splash screen
[05:43] <danny> Some_Person, i want to install my own
[05:43] <darkentity> make sure that tab says all applications
[05:43] <joanki> im there
[05:43] <darkentity> and type gstreamer
[05:43] <Some_Person> danny: then make your own usplash theme
[05:43] <darkentity> they have 1 star as popularity
[05:43] <darkentity> try to install all of them
[05:43] <Some_Person> !usplash | danny
[05:43] <ubotu> danny: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[05:43] <joanki> k
[05:44] <darkentity> if that dont work then type in mplayer
[05:44] <darkentity> install that
[05:44] <darkentity> that should work
[05:44] <darkentity> but try gstreamer first
[05:44] <int86> demortes: you there
[05:44] <int86> can somebody help me in installing nvidia 5200 card
[05:44] <Csaba> i got mplayer and totem, why dont they display menus?
[05:44] <Zippy111> Anyone please, i just wanna go bed but i cant unless i get this done
[05:44] <darkentity> it should install when u first run ubuntu
[05:44] <darkentity> or did u just added that card int86?
[05:45] <bazhang> joanki: you might want to enable the medibuntu.org repositories to play that dvd instructions can be found at the site
[05:45] <darkentity> if u just did then go to add/remove type in nvidia and install nvidia card driver
[05:45] <Zippy111> how can i enable xorg-driver-fglrx
[05:45] <Zippy111>  :o
[05:45] <demortes> darkentity - I believe the restricted driver manager is best...
[05:46] <joanki> darkentity, so then after getting all that gstreamer stuff, i should be able to play it in mplayter?
[05:46] <joanki> honestly it's been a lot of work switching to ubuntu
[05:46] <joanki> i always feel like everything is disabled
[05:46] <Csaba> what happens if it has CSS?
[05:46] <Zippy111> Nvm thanks anyway
[05:46] <Some_Person> How do I duplicate my user account
[05:47] <anow> My Screen is zoomed in, and I have to pan around by moving my mouse to the sides of the screen, how do I fix this?
[05:47] <Cpudan80> Im trying to install ATIs third party driver
[05:47] <int86> darkentity: yep i just added the card
[05:47] <bazhang> joanki: a physical dvd? I believe you need libdvdcss2 from medibuntu.org
[05:47] <joanki> how do i get that bazhang?
[05:47] <darkentity> joanki
[05:47] <Cpudan80> But ehh - it doesn't show up in restricted drivers -- should I follow the edgy instructions ?
[05:47] <darkentity> it'll be better believe me
[05:47] <Cpudan80> from the !ati factoid
[05:47] <darkentity> u dont have to worry about dreaded viruses like windows
[05:47] <joanki> CRAP!
[05:47] <caligarn1037> vlc should be able to use menus if you download the libdvdcss2 liibrary from synaptic
[05:47] <joanki> it still doesn't play in mplayer
[05:47] <anow> ...
[05:47] <Cpudan80> It says to follow the edgy directions if something goes wrong....
[05:47] <demortes> darkentity - yet
[05:47] <darkentity> did u install all the gstreamer things
[05:48] <joanki> yes i did
[05:48] <bazhang> joanki: try darkentity's way, and if that is not successful then check out medibuntu.org
[05:48] <joanki> bazhang, can you help me get that thing you're talking about?
[05:48] <darkentity> ur right demortes
[05:48] <caligarn1037> joanki: just grab libdvdcss2 from syanptic
[05:48] <joanki> how caligarn1037
[05:48] <joanki> please help me i'm so sick of this
[05:48] <anow> Is there a reason everyone is ignoring me? I have a few friends who had the same problem and switched back to windows cus of it.
[05:48] <ganeshhegde> how to set emerald as window decorator?
[05:48] <darkentity> joanie go to system
[05:48] <bazhang> joanki: medibuntu.org is a website--take a look there
[05:48] <joanki> i just wanta do  my yoga video before i go to sleep
[05:48] <caligarn1037> joanki: go to System>Administration>Synaptic Package manager
[05:48] <joanki> k caligarn
[05:48] <joanki> caligarn1037,
[05:49] <caligarn1037> joanki: and search for libdvdcss2
[05:49] <darkentity> nah just use synapic
[05:49] <darkentity> its better
[05:49] <caligarn1037> joanki: and download it
[05:49] <darkentity> i think
[05:49] <darkentity> true
[05:49] <joanki> doing it now
[05:49] <caligarn1037> joanki: and then use vlc...select open DVD (menus) and it should work
[05:49] <caligarn1037> joanki: sweet
[05:49] <anow> My Screen is zoomed in, and I have to pan around by moving my mouse to the sides of the screen, how do I fix this?
[05:50] <caligarn1037> super-button 1
[05:50] <joanki> nothing happens when i do that caligarn1037
[05:50] <caligarn1037> anowsuper-button + 1
[05:50] <joanki> freak
[05:50] <anow> wat?
[05:50] <caligarn1037> joanki: have you opened up vlc player?
[05:50] <darkentity> the windows logo button
[05:50] <darkentity> and 1
[05:50] <ganeshhegde> caligarn1037:how to set emerald as window decorator?
[05:50] <anow> not doing anything
[05:50] <joanki> caligarn1037, when i search for it,
[05:50] <joanki> do i look in name?
[05:50] <darkentity> what if u dont have the windows button on ur keyboard then what?
[05:50] <Csaba> i cant find libdvdcss2 , do i add repositories? for mediabuntu?
[05:51] <caligarn1037> Csaba: hm...
[05:51] <bazhang> Csaba: yup
[05:51] <joanki> i can't find it either caligarn1037 Csaba
[05:51] <rattts> i have 2 comps, both connected to a wireless router, one comp has shared folders, how can i access this comp or at least see it using ubuntu?
[05:51] <caligarn1037> Csaba: let me check
[05:51] <joanki> i am SO sick of my frekaing ubuntu
[05:51] <joanki> sorry
[05:51] <bazhang> it's medibuntu.org Csaba
[05:51] <caligarn1037> joanki: yah it's in the medibunut repositories
[05:51] <anow> caligarn1037: its not doing anything.
[05:51] <joanki> it doesn't find it
[05:51] <rattts> i have 2 comps, both connected to a wireless router, one comp has shared folders, how can i access this comp or at least see it using ubuntu?
[05:51] <buttercups> Csaba, you can use Medibuntu or just , sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[05:52] <defrysk> joanki, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[05:52] <caligarn1037> anow: okay..go to Advanced Desktop Settings and check out the setting for Zoom
[05:52] <caligarn1037> hmm....
[05:52] <joanki> is there just a way to install from sudo apt-get install?
[05:52] <joanki> GOD
[05:52] <caligarn1037> joanki: let me check
[05:52] <darkentity> hey
[05:52] <caligarn1037> sorry man...
[05:52] <darkentity> jonaie
[05:52] <defrysk> joanki, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[05:52] <anow> Advanced Desktop Settings would be where? caligarn1037
[05:52] <bazhang> joanki: yes, but you need to a repository
[05:52] <joanki> sorry
[05:52] <darkentity> did u right click on the dvd and click open with mplayer??
[05:52] <bazhang> err enable
[05:52] <taz_> hi guys.. why it not work with desktop cube ?
[05:53] <caligarn1037> joanki: do you already have the medibunutu repository in?
[05:53] <joanki> there's no option to do that, darkentity
[05:53] <demortes> taz_ - got four desktops? Did you specify it in the Desktop Effects?
[05:53] <joanki> i don't know caligarn
[05:53] <joanki> how do i get it
[05:53] <defrysk> joanki, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[05:53] <ganeshhegde> defrysk:how to set emerald as window decorator?
[05:53] <taz_> how ?
[05:53] <caligarn1037> okay...here we go...go into the software sources...
[05:53] <caligarn1037> and add this...
[05:53] <bazhang> taz_: you need to install ccsm, then go to general in that settings manager and choose from general horizontal virtual desktops--set it to four
[05:53] <joanki> i'm annoyed i downloaded all those gstreamer thingies
[05:54] <joanki> sorry i dont meant to be crabby
[05:54] <joanki> tired after thanksgiving and i really need to do my yoga video and everything on ubuntu has been crapping out
[05:54] <taz_> where that  ccsm?
[05:54] <bazhang> joanki: best to be a bit patient, not much more now
[05:54] <caligarn1037> joanki: yah...i agree with bazhang. i think we're almost there
[05:54] <bazhang> taz_: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager compiz
[05:54] <joanki> where do i find software sources?
[05:55] <joanki> that was for you, caligarn1037
[05:55] <ganeshhegde> bazhang:how to set emerald as window decorator?
[05:55] <Ubuntu_Rocks> joanki: just put the dvd in let it come to desktop/right click and open with vlc.
[05:55] <caligarn1037> joanki: under Administration...same place as the Synaptic
[05:55] <taz_> u mean compizconfig setting manger?
[05:55] <joanki> it doesn't WORK Ubuntu_Rocks
[05:55] <bazhang> ganeshhegde: do you have emerald installed?
[05:55] <joanki> VLC CRASHES when i open it
[05:55] <ganeshhegde> ya..
[05:55] <caligarn1037> Ubuntu_Rocks: he doesn't have libdvdcss2 yet. so VLC isn't reacting correctly
[05:55] <joanki> in there
[05:55] <RequinB4> how can i connect to my desktop via vnc? i've done the remote desktop thing, now i'm trying to connect from my XP box
[05:55] <RequinB4> I have VNC viewer installed