[08:06] <Pyrrhic> Walther: If you read on down, there's a bit about 64-bit as well. I have both on this hard drive. Currently on 32
[08:06] <Pyrrhic> Mboone: No problem. Glad to help. :D
[08:06] <Joe1> so how do i put this usb to boot from USB
[08:06] <Joe1> iso rather
[08:07] <Pyrrhic> @Joel Burn the .iso as a CD Image.
[08:07] <Joe1> with what app
[08:07] <Pyrrhic> Imgburn works for CD's
[08:07] <Joe1> is there one ubuntu has by defailt
[08:07] <Joe1> ok
[08:07] <Pyrrhic> Yes.
[08:07] <Pyrrhic> There's one built into ubuntu
[08:08] <dwakar> Joe1: ubuntu live usb creator
[08:08] <Walther> Pyrrhic: So, do you have the web installer or full?
[08:09] <Pyrrhic> The web. But I can't get it to run.
[08:09] <Joe1> dwaker isnt that for windows
[08:09] <gogeta> ill have to take that back it seems to not play on linux
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> Joe1: or use unetbootin, both are fine
[08:09] <dwakar> usb-creator-gtk at the terminal
[08:09] <Walther> Pyrrhic: hm, no idea, sorry
[08:09] <Joe1> o ya i forgot about unetbootin
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> Pyrrhic: did you check the appdb for compatibility?
[08:09] <Joe1> i installed that too
[08:09] <Pyrrhic> ActionParsnip: Yes.
[08:10] <Pyrrhic> Rating: Gold
[08:10] <gogeta> tuneinradio seems to work
[08:10] <Walther> Pyrrhic: There's a comment on the bottom, "NOTE: These instructions work for almost any distro EXCEPT for Ubuntu 12.04 64bit. If you are unlucky and have that painful OS, scroll a little down and follow the Ubuntu-specific guide :) "
[08:10] <Walther> I don't necessarily agree with 12.04 being painful, but it might cause issues to your WINE
[08:11] <Pyrrhic> Walther: Yes I know. I'm trying to get this going on x86 Ubuntu. I also have a 64-bit installation. But I don't know how to patch.
[08:11] <Walther> Pyrrhic: anyway, sorry, can't help
[08:11] <Pyrrhic> Walther: Thanks for your time anyway. =]
[08:12] <dwakar> gogeta: radiotray works fine on my ubuntu 12.04
[08:12] <gogeta> dwakar: nice never tryed it
[08:12] <Pyrrhic> ActionParsnip: Any ideas?
[08:14] <kingfarvito> horribly fuzzy display. Tried changing resolution any ideas?
[08:14] <kingfarvito> http://tinypic.com/r/160evph/6
[08:14] <kingfarvito> there is screen cap
[08:14] <kingfarvito> happened suddenly out of the blue
[08:14] <gogeta> dwakar: is teather to phone on edge chatting hear and listing to radio lol
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Pyrrhic: i'd ask in #winehq
[08:14] <dwakar> gogeta: huh
[08:15] <Pyrrhic> ActionParsnip: I'm trying to, but it's dead. No one is replying.
[08:15] <gogeta> dwakar: relly slow internet worse then dialup at times
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> kingfarvito: what video chip? what make and model system?
[08:16] <kingfarvito> its a dell inspiron 1440
[08:16] <kingfarvito> no idea on the video, just what ever on board stuff
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> kingfarvito: why was that detail not in the initial question?
[08:17] <kingfarvito> I assumed it was an software issue not a hardware issue
[08:18] <gogeta> kingfarvito: could be but does it do it on windows or even the bios screen
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> kingfarvito: yes but we need to know teh hardware so we can look at the driver (software) setting
[08:19] <kingfarvito> no idea gogeta, it just started
[08:19] <AndrewX192> Is it possible to shrink the unity dock icons smaller than 32px? (I can't see everything I have open, even at 1080px height)
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> kingfarvito: can you run:  lspci | grep -i vga; lsb_release -sc     what is output please?
[08:19] <gogeta> kingfarvito: well if it does it outside linux its proly hardware
[08:19] <kingfarvito> woah, it just stopped
[08:19] <gogeta> kingfarvito: hardware
[08:20] <kingfarvito> lovely
[08:20] <gogeta> kingfarvito: is it a lcd
[08:20] <kingfarvito> guess that makes it time for a new comp?
[08:20] <gogeta> kingfarvito: its not as bad as it sounds its probly just a bad lcd controler
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> kingfarvito: check the dry connection on the screen
[08:21] <gogeta> kingfarvito: 10$ repair
[08:21] <kingfarvito> dry connection?
[08:21] <dial-a-monkey> Hey all - Just wondering if anyone has a good reason why my 12.04 changed local LANG and LANGUAGE to Chinese?  I'm naturally security pananoid
[08:21] <gogeta> kingfarvito: and normaly just under the bezel and 1 screw
[08:22] <kingfarvito> good to know
[08:22] <giumatfra> ciaooooooooooooooo
[08:22] <gogeta> kingfarvito: check the connection there it may be loose
[08:22] <giumatfra> !list
[08:22] <kingfarvito> also if it still matters ActionParsnip "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[08:22] <dial-a-monkey> - Im not running Tripwire
[08:22] <kingfarvito> precise
[08:22] <kingfarvito> " was the out put
[08:23] <gogeta> kingfarvito: most lcd death is that 10$ controler but most people just buy a new laptop or monoter
[08:23] <kingfarvito> I see
[08:24] <gogeta> kingfarvito: got a few nice free laptops that way
[08:24] <kingfarvito> I've been looking into a new comp anyway. this thing is falling apart
[08:24] <Joe1> 2d does work better
[08:24] <Joe1> why is that
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> Joe1: it doesn't use 3D accelleration to make the useless pretty stuff on the desktop
[08:24] <Joe1> ok
[08:24] <gogeta> kingfarvito: and even saved a few frends from buying a new laptop they didnt need
[08:24] <paulus68> ActionParsnip:The thing is it's known in the bios but under lshw it's not so I wont be able to mount it right?
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: does it show in:  sudo fdisk -l
[08:26] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: negative
[08:26] <abdelghani> delicious
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: if you boot to ubuntu live cd, is it accessible?
[08:27] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: don't know will have to check that
[08:28] <gogeta> kingfarvito: look up the lenovo y580 its a pretty epic laptop priced under 900$
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> i got rid of the square mouse pointer install precise 12.04.1 clean, tnx to all
[08:28] <Joe1> will file trasnfers and things be faster with 64 bit
[08:28] <Joe1> or does that not really matter
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> Joe1: won't really affect it
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> Joe1: I suggest you research what 64bit actually is
[08:29] <Wizard> Joe1: But apps will take more RAM ;P
[08:29] <Joe1> i know what it is i just thought maybe that speeds up the processing
[08:29] <Joe1> 32 bit sees all my ram tho so i guess i dotn really need it
[08:29] <nicelyToasted> Joe1: it probably wouldnt be worth a reinstall
[08:29] <Wizard> Definitely.
[08:30] <Wizard> Good morning, BTW :)
[08:30] <nicelyToasted> good morning
[08:30] <Joe1> yea
[08:30] <nicelyToasted> afternoon
[08:30] <Joe1> i think i wanna use osx again
[08:30] <Joe1> lol
[08:30] <nicelyToasted> noooo!!
[08:30] <Joe1> soon as i figure out how to get it back on my comp i was useing lion
[08:30] <gogeta> Joe1: apple will bring death squads for that
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Joe1: its great for CPU intensive stuff like audio and videeo transforms and SQL servers etc
[08:31] <Wizard> I smell a Hitchhiker.
[08:32] <Joe1> idk i thought osx worked pretty good
[08:32] <Wizard> And Ubuntu doesn't? :(
[08:32] <Joe1> kinda
[08:32] <trent> Hello, can someone tell me why whenever I drag my Skype icon to my desktop. It shows up as a configuration file instead?
[08:32] <Joe1> its not really working all that well for me
[08:33] <gogeta> Wizard: lol only ubuntu without unity
[08:34] <trent> I think Ubuntu hates me.
[08:34] <gogeta> trent: it hates us all equily
[08:35] <trent> Why can't it just work? On the website it seems so easy to use. xD
[08:35] <gogeta> trent: whats broke
[08:35] <trent> My Skype icon shows up as a configuration file and not the Skype icon? :(
[08:35] <gogeta> trent: its easy to use with lxde or xfce or mate lol
[08:36] <gogeta> trent: i think you need to enable desktop icons
[08:36] <trent> I got them enabled gogeta firefox icon shows up
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> whats a popular first person shooter online for ubuntu?
[08:36] <trent> Call of Duty?
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> trent: run the app, then lock it to the unity panel
[08:36] <gogeta> trent: sounds like something with skype then the easy way is make a icon to run the skype command then add the correct pic
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: urban terror
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: the penumbra series is well worth the mony
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: nexuiz
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:tnx lemme take a look :p
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: playdeb has urban terror
[08:37] <Wizard> trent: Check if the file ends with .desktop.
[08:38] <trent> Wizard, it just shows Skype nothing else.
[08:39] <Wizard> So try renaming it to Skype.desktop
[08:39] <trent> I got it, I think it was just a small glitch.
[08:39] <trent> What is this LXDE though?
[08:39] <gogeta> trent: my way work for anything icon trmnel command skype
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:tnx for the playdeb site, looks cool
[08:39] <Wizard> trent: Desktop environment, personally I consider is as crap.
[08:40] <Joe1> wish i could switch the kernel without a reinstall
[08:40] <Joe1> lol
[08:40] <Joe1> u can on osx
[08:40] <gogeta> Wizard: dont confuse unity as a desktop envirment
[08:40] <Wizard> trent: So now you have your skype icon?
[08:40] <Wizard> gogeta: Unity is a compiz plugin, in fact.
[08:40] <gogeta> Wizard: its a touch screen envirment
[08:40] <Wizard> ROTFLMAO.
[08:40] <Joe1> i want a theme like suse linux has
[08:41] <Wizard> gogeta: I have a touchscreen in my netbook, Unity sucks on touchscreen.
[08:41] <trent> Wizard, I do have my Skype icon :)
[08:41] <zlati> hi
[08:41] <gogeta> Wizard: never said it was a goiod one
[08:41] <Wizard> It has many elements showing up on mouse hover, try to hover on a touchscreen.
[08:41] <Joe1> is suse linux any good
[08:41] <Joe1> ?
[08:41] <Joe1> isnt that debian too
[08:41] <gogeta> Joe1: no suse is rpm based
[08:41] <Wizard> Joe1: Not a good place for such questions.
[08:42] <Joe1> why not? its a general question
[08:42] <gogeta> Joe1: or redhat
[08:42] <ryan_> hello, i cant access windows 8 file system from ubuntu. any solutions?
[08:42] <Joe1> im useing ubuntu
[08:42] <Joe1> lol
[08:42] <nicelyToasted> Joe1: its a personal choice. better to ask in ##linux
[08:42] <Joe1> best place to ask the question actually ill never learn about it if i dotn ask and everyone here knows what i wanna know
[08:42] <Joe1> lol
[08:42] <Wizard> Heh.
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> ryan_: you trying to browse a windows 8 usb device?
[08:43] <gogeta> Joe1: lubuntu xubuntu are all geat
[08:43] <Joe1> never tried those
[08:43] <Joe1> ive tried kubuntu i think
[08:43] <gogeta> Joe1: lxde and xfce
[08:44] <trent> gogeta, is lxde any good?
[08:44] <Joe1> are they just different GUi
[08:44] <zlati> guys i have a question.... right now im using centos to host my websites and wanna migrate on ubuntu, what about it ? wich you recommend normal or server ?
[08:44] <Joe1> or wat
[08:44] <gogeta> trent: its a simple desktop
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> trent:for lower systems they run fine
[08:44] <gogeta> lotuspsychje: for any system
[08:44] <trent> looks like i'm going to install that then. :)
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> !server | zlati
[08:44] <ryan_> lotuspsychje: i could browse through windows 7 but i cant ever since i installed windows 8
[08:44] <trent> Does it have a "wireless connection" icon?
[08:45] <Joe1> where can i get lxde it looks nice
[08:45] <zlati> lotuspsychje: it is stable ?
[08:45] <trent> Joel "sudo apt-get install lxde-desktop"
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> gogeta: for high end systems i rather use unity
[08:45] <bekks> Joe1: You can just install lxde
[08:45] <gogeta> trent: unlike ubuntu and gnome microsoft they are not trying to change the desktop
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> zlati:very stable
[08:45] <gogeta> Joe1: yep all those envirments are in the repos
[08:46] <Joe1> ooo
[08:46] <trent> gogeta, does LXDE have a wireless desktop icon? If not how do I connect to my wireless? I can't figure it out without being on Xfce
[08:46] <Wizard> gogeta: Sorry to say that, but you sound kinda childish :)
[08:46] <gogeta> trent: yes its on the bottem right corner
[08:47] <trent> gogeta, thank you i'm going to go install that. :)
[08:47] <gogeta> trent: next to the messages
[08:47] <ryan_> lotuspsychje
[08:47] <trent> gogeta, before I go. On my KDE desktop I can't find the network icon? I don't know how to connect to my wireless netowkr.
[08:47] <gogeta> trent: well you can try them on your install just fine and still have unity
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> ryan_:can you provide us with more details...what excaclty you got as error etc..
[08:48] <gogeta> trent: same its bottem right corner its a odd looking icon like a straght line
[08:48] <trent> gogeta, I honestly couldn't find it. xD
[08:48] <wan26> ah
[08:48] <gogeta> trent: you have to dubble click it then it opnens the networking config
[08:48] <Joe1> how do i use the lxde once its installed?
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> ryan_:you got ntfs installed?
[08:49] <Joe1> log out an use that selection menu i use for the 3d 2d switch?
[08:49] <gogeta> Joe1: at login slect envirment then lxde
[08:49] <trent> gogeta, thank you for your help. I'm going off to bed. Goodnight. :)
[08:50] <gogeta> trent: i think for the newer login screen its the little gear icon
[08:50] <ryan_> lotuspsychje -:Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 14: Windows is hibernated, refused to mount.
[08:50] <ryan_> Failed to mount '/dev/sda2': Operation not permitted
[08:50] <ryan_> The NTFS partition is hibernated. Please resume and shutdown Windows
[08:50] <ryan_> properly, or mount the volume read-only with the 'ro' mount option, or
[08:50] <ryan_> mount the volume read-write with the 'remove_hiberfile' mount option.
[08:50] <ryan_> For example type on the command line:
[08:50] <FloodBot1> ryan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:50] <Joe1> cool
[08:51] <Joe1> lxde is way better
[08:51] <gogeta> Joe1: guess  you found it
[08:51] <Joe1> i keep getting a system error
[08:51] <Joe1> since b4 the theme change
[08:51] <svip> I am having a problem with the Icedtea plugin; I upgraded it recently and now it doesn't work.  Essentially, the area where the applet should start, it just stays white.
[08:51] <Joe1> somethign witha nautalis package
[08:51] <svip> Nothing is saying that it isn't working, however.
[08:51] <Joe1> nautilus crashed with SIGBRT in raise
[08:52] <gogeta> Joe1: could be a waring not a error
[08:52] <Joe1> it asks me to send it in
[08:52] <Joe1> like a error report
[08:52] <gogeta> Joe1: odd enough
[08:53] <Joe1> this lxde interface is definatly more easy to use
[08:53] <gogeta> Joe1: could be trying to load the old theme and not likeing its not there
[08:53] <gogeta> Joe1: :)
[08:54] <gogeta> Joe1: lxde and xfce at least to me and most older users are great alts
[08:55] <gogeta> Joe1: its like everyone thinks the start menu is some sort of eveil now
[08:55] <Joe1> i like it
[08:55] <Joe1> i dontl ike the new unity crap
[08:55] <Joe1> i like how it use to look
[08:56] <gogeta> Joe1: well thats always the good thing abught linux is the choice
[08:57] <Wizard> gogeta: People usually like Unity.
[08:57] <gogeta> Wizard: people who dont knoe better
[08:57] <ryan_> why do i get this error message   Unable to mount 86 GB File system
[08:58] <gogeta> ryan_: well thats not good is it a windows drive
[08:58] <Ascavasaion> I am using Lubuntu, the little notification that pops up when Internet connections are made, songs chance, etc. has disapeared.  HOw do I get back.
[08:58] <bekks> ryan_: What are you trying exactly, from where do you get that error, and which Ubuntu are you using?
[08:59] <funky1> hi all, i just installed ubuntu 12.04 64 bit desktop version, i have a Zotac GeForce GT 610 PCI video card that is attached via hdmi cable to a 55 inch TV, when I watch HD videos, the video stutters any ideas what i can do?
[09:00] <ryan_> bekks_: am using 12.04 LTS and i always get that message any time i try to acess that drive is actually my c: for windows 8
[09:00] <gogeta> Ascavasaion: its not in the add remove applet list
[09:01] <Wizard> gogeta: Dunno, I use GNU/Linux for few years and personally I think Gnome shell and Unity are tight steps.
[09:02] <Wizard> At least "Linux" gained it's own design, look and feel and so.
[09:02] <Ascavasaion> gogeta: I do not see that option.
[09:02] <Wizard> It is distinct.
[09:02] <gogeta> Ascavasaion: right click the task bar add remove panel items slect add and network manager should be there
[09:02] <compdoc> whats the advantage of using a UTC clock rather than local? is it simply to do with daylight savings time?
[09:02] <Wizard> compdoc: When you travel :P
[09:03] <Ascavasaion> gogeta: No, not the network monager monitor thingie... I mean a little window pops up... notifications.
[09:03] <ryan_> gogetta_: yeah is a windows drive, windows 8 to be precise
[09:03] <Wizard> compdoc: You than just switch timezone and it works.
[09:03] <Wizard> ;P
[09:03] <compdoc> it wont be traveling
[09:03] <gogeta> ryan_: boot windows 8 let chkdsk run t should work after assuming its still ntfs
[09:04] <Wizard> compdoc: Than it is up to you, but this is traditional unix setup ;P
[09:04] <bekks> ryan_: What exactly are you doing to "access the drive"?
[09:04] <Pyrrhic> Anyone available to help me with a scripting issue with WINE? I have TeamViewer.
[09:05] <bekks> Pyrrhic: State the actual issue you are having please.
[09:05] <funky1> ryan_: have you ever mounted successfully the drive in ubuntu?
[09:05] <ryan_> bekks_: i mean trying to browse(open) it
[09:05] <bekks> ryan_: Then open a terminal and type dmesg to see whats in the kernel ring buffer.
[09:05] <gogeta> Ascavasaion: i think its called desktop pager
[09:06] <gogeta> Ascavasaion: or wnckpager
[09:06] <Ascavasaion> gogeta: I sorted it out... apt-get install notification-daemon and then you just run notification-properties and voila!
[09:07] <gogeta> Ascavasaion: or its a app :)
[09:07] <Pyrrhic> bekks: The script is skipping the local setup file.
[09:07] <ryan_> funky1_: yeah but only when i was using windows 8
[09:07] <Ascavasaion> gogeta: :)  thanks for trying though.  Much appreciated.
[09:07] <phibxr> funky1: There are a lot of things you could check. Start with making sure that the correct refresh rate has been set for your TV. For my setup, it defaults to 24Hz, which makes both screens incredibly jerky.
[09:07] <gogeta> phibxr: a hdtv should display just like a monoter
[09:08] <bekks> Pyrrhic: What does that mean? Something like "the script doesnt execute the wine setup file" or something?
[09:08] <funky1> ryan_: is it a company laptop or so, could there be some encryption on the drive? what does dmesg outpus show?
[09:08] <phibxr> gogeta: Mine sure doesn't, under Ubuntu. It reports its capabilities fine to Windows and OS X, but under Ubuntu it's detected as a projector with 24Hz. After setting it up manually, it works fine though. I blame it on the Catalyst drivers for Ubuntu.
[09:09] <funky1> phibxr: i suppose those settings are in the xorg.conf?
[09:09] <gogeta> phibxr: my tv has vga and hdmi so even my older cards have no issue strange guess becouse its a newer tv
[09:09] <Pyrrhic> bekks: Link to the script http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19141
[09:10] <Fira> Hi ! Using an intel chipset, and from  what i read the xorg video drivers package includes 3 drivers. Can i hotswap between them, or otherwise toogle which ones X use ?
[09:10] <phibxr> funky1: Setting them up there is a good start, but you also have to configure it in Catalyst if you're running the proprietary AMD-drivers. The open source drivers detects it just fine though.
[09:10] <Pyrrhic> bekks: I'm on Ubuntu 32-bit atm. I also have a 64-bit installation of 12.04 LTS /// I'd be royally pleased if I could get either working.
[09:10] <bekks> Pyrrhic: And whats the actual problem then? What exactly happens and what do you expect?
[09:10] <Fira> Trying to get something to work, but it's crashing with current driver...
[09:10] <phibxr> funky1: The Catalyst drivers for Linux have always been a bit dodgy. :)
[09:10] <funky1> not amd nvidia
[09:11] <funky1> first tried free dirvers, but had the problem there, installed l8test prop. drivers, still same problem..
[09:11] <phibxr> funky1: Sorry, I mixed you and gogeta up. For NVIDIA it's only xorg.conf, yes. :)
[09:11] <phibxr> funky1: Might as well check the NVIDIA configuration utility though.
[09:11] <Andres_chile> why youtube is so slow in xubuntu??
[09:11] <gogeta> Andres_chile: old machine?
[09:11] <Andres_chile> not so much
[09:12] <Pyrrhic> bekks: It doesn't run the setup file I have.
[09:12] <Andres_chile> in windows works well
[09:12] <gogeta> Andres_chile: slow video card
[09:12] <ryan_> funky1_: no is my personal laptop, dmesg's output is quit complecated, dont understand it
[09:12] <Andres_chile> and i made the change to xubuntu
[09:12] <bekks> Pyrrhic: So which file exactly do you have...?
[09:12] <funky1> phibxr: ok thx will play around a little and see what happens
[09:12] <funky1> ryan_: try another mount, do dmesg and post outcome on pastebin
[09:12] <Pyrrhic> LeagueofLegends.exe
[09:12] <Pyrrhic> from the website
[09:13] <funky1> and give us the link of course :)
[09:13] <gogeta> Andres_chile: xbuntu with compiz on will try to use  the video card and on oder cards it an be slow
[09:13] <bekks> Pyrrhic: Have you edited the script as being told in the instructions?
[09:13] <gogeta> Andres_chile: turning off ompiz and using 2d should speed it along
[09:13] <Andres_chile> how can i do it? im new in xubuntu
[09:13] <Andres_chile> i dont know the commands
[09:13] <Pyrrhic> bekks: I have. Commented out the online installation. It still skips it. I'm thinking I've done something wrong.
[09:14] <funky1> ryan_: btw are you trying to mount via command line or just pluging in the drive into the USB port?
[09:14] <Fira> Actually, i'm using a chipset that is supposed to work with i915 but XOrg under Ubuntu loads me i810 instead. Is this normal :( ?
[09:14] <gogeta> Andres_chile: in the settings menu i think its marked window effects
[09:14] <ryan_> funky1_: sorry am a lil new here so whats pastebin
[09:14] <funky1> pastebin.ca
[09:14] <funky1> is a website
[09:14] <bekks> Pyrrhic: COmmenting out the online installation is not enough.
[09:14] <funky1> where you can copy paste stuff
[09:15] <bekks> Pyrrhic: You have to modify the path to that setup file in a way that it points to the file you have.
[09:15] <funky1> ah i see there is also paste.ubuntu.com that you can use
[09:15] <Pyrrhic> bekks: what do i need to change? Please assist.
[09:15] <Pyrrhic> bekks: I don't have very much scripting knowledge.
[09:15] <jbermudes> What does it mean if grub2 can't see my ubuntu partition but a liveCD fdisk -l shows it?
[09:15] <bekks> Pyrrhic: The lines to edit are hilighted in yellow.
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Fira: blacklist the i810 driver
[09:16] <ryan_> funky1_: no, am using dual boot so is the same hard disk
[09:17] <funky1> ah ok
[09:17] <funky1> see here, http://askubuntu.com/questions/128577/cant-mount-ntfs-partition could be u have the same issue then
[09:17] <gogeta> luftikuss: dialup ftw
[09:17] <Andres_chile> i cant find compiz in menu, theres a command to disable it?
[09:17] <bekks> ryan_: Did you paste the output of dmesg yet?
[09:17] <Pyrrhic> bekks: How do I point to the directory? Just put the full path of the file after $WINEXE ?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> Andres_chile: just log in to the Unity2D session
[09:18] <Andres_chile> ok ill try it
[09:18] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: hes in xfce
[09:18] <ryan_> bekks_: can i past it here
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: ahhhh
[09:18] <funky1> ryan_: paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:19] <bekks> Pyrrhic: Just read the comments in the yellow section.
[09:19] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: been a wile sense i used it but they do have a compiz off option its under look and feel i think
[09:20] <Pyrrhic> bekks:    # if you have the web-based installer (about 2MiB), use this      GC_DONT_GC=1 $WINEXE $scriptWD/LeagueofLegends.exe    # if you are not using the web-based installer comment the previous line.
[09:20] <Pyrrhic> bekks: The GC_DONT_GC=1 $WINEXE $scriptWD/LeagueofLegends.exe is what confuses me
[09:21] <bekks> Pyrrhic: We dont know which installer you have - you have to know it.
[09:21] <gogeta> Pyrrhic: whont playonlinux have all the settings he needs
[09:21] <bekks> gogeta: But playonlinux does not have the installer he needs.
[09:22] <gogeta> bekks: it shoulld have settings for the installer as well
[09:22] <bekks> gogeta: Settings, correct. But not the installer itself.
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: didn't know it was even installed by default..
[09:23] <Pyrrhic> bekks: I have the non-web-based
[09:23] <Pyrrhic> bekks: I just don't know what I need to do to point the script to it.  Then read the comments. One line is for the online installer, the other one for the offline installer.
[09:25] <Pyrrhic> bekks: I have the offline
[09:25] <Pyrrhic> bekks: My question is... if I don't change that line will it automatically search for it and find it wherever it is on my computer..
[09:25] <bekks> Pyrrhic: Then edit the line thats described to be responsible for the offline installer.
[09:26] <Pyrrhic> bekks: or do I need to put in a full file path
[09:26] <bekks> No, it will not do some automagic.
[09:26] <Pyrrhic> lol
[09:26] <Pyrrhic> bekks: Where does the full path go... that's all I'm trying to ask.
[09:26] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: you catch that are you a dev lol
[09:26] <ryan_> funky1_: i just pated the output of dmesg in pastebin
[09:26] <bekks> Pyrrhic: To the setup file you have. Where you saved it to.
[09:26] <abdelghani> gogeta: what about you?
[09:26] <funky1> ryan_: give link please
[09:27] <gogeta> abdelghani: i i have been known to code
[09:27] <Pyrrhic> GC_DONT_GC=1 $WINEXE  ----------- Directly AFTER $WINEXE ?
[09:27] <Yerushalmi> Hey folks. Since about a week ago, my computer has been randomly deciding to disconnect from wifi, and I can't reconnect to my network or any other one until I restart. Can someone help me with this?
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: not a dev :)
[09:27] <ryan_> funky1_:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1167733/plain/
[09:27] <abdelghani> gogeta: please clarify
[09:27] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: i knoe lol
[09:28] <Pyrrhic> bekks: GC_DONT_GC=1 $WINEXE --> *HERE* ??? I tried that and it doesn't work.
[09:29] <gogeta> abdelghani: i did this a few years back when netbooks and linux where not so frendly http://liliputing.com/2009/04/pupeee-linux-42-is-fast-simple-and-built-for-eee-pc-netbooks.html
[09:29] <blackshirt> what are you doing guys'?
[09:29] <bekks> Pyrrhic: "doesnt work" is not an useful error message. What did you enter exactly, and what happened - exactly?
[09:29] <bekks> Pyrrhic: Use a pastebin for providing what you've done and what happened please.
[09:29] <gogeta> abdelghani: mostly patches
[09:30] <Pyrrhic> bekks: Do you have teamviewer or another screen-sharing program?
[09:30] <bekks> Pyrrhic: No.
[09:30] <Pyrrhic> bekks: Mind getting it?
[09:30] <profiler1982> is it possible to implement HUD in gnome-shell?
[09:31] <abdelghani> any one as a developer here?
[09:31] <bekks> Pyrrhic: Yes. :P Just provide the information requested. :)
[09:31] <funky1> ryan_: hm don't see anything out of the ordinary in there, what is the partition you want to mount called?
[09:31] <blackshirt> yes
[09:31] <bzzzz> :O
[09:31] <gogeta> abdelghani: you knoe thats not helping just tell the problem if someones knoes they might aswer
[09:31] <luftikuss> profiler1982: What do you mean by HUD?
[09:32] <bekks> ryan_: You just rebooted as can be seen. Now try to mount your disk again, and provide a new output of dmesg please.
[09:32] <Pyrrhic> Well after it runs, it closes. I don't know how to create a log. So if I showed you as it happens.. you'd be able to see.
[09:32] <bekks> luftikuss: "Heads Up Display".
[09:32] <W4sp> HUD = head up display
[09:32] <bekks> Pyrrhic: It does not create a log. I requested some other information.
[09:33] <profiler1982> hud option in unity
[09:33] <ryan_> funky1_:  this is the actual message i get   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1167745/plain/
[09:33] <abdelghani> gogeta: I will
[09:33] <Pyrrhic> bekks: What would you like to know? I missed your question. I'm sorry.
[09:33] <bekks> Pyrrhic: "doesnt work" is not an useful error message. What did you enter exactly, and what happened - exactly?
[09:33] <bekks> Pyrrhic: We need to know what you've edited in that single line.
[09:33] <gogeta> abdelghani: so far i get your having a hard time with linux
[09:33] <gogeta> abdelghani: or ubuntu
[09:33] <funky1> ryan_: ah ok, there you go, it says what the problem is
[09:34] <funky1> ryan_: do a reboot
[09:34] <bekks> ryan_: "Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 14: Windows is hibernated, refused to mount"
[09:34] <blackshirt> abdelghani, exactly,what do you want to know?
[09:34] <Pyrrhic> bekks: 1. Opened Terminal 2. Ran the script. 3. It created the second script as if it installed the program, but no program was installed.
[09:34] <bekks> ryan_: Whats unclear with that message? :)
[09:34] <gogeta> abdelghani: its starting to sound like english is not your primary language you are aware we have channels in every language
[09:34] <bekks> Pyrrhic: So you did NOT edit any lines in that script?
[09:34] <abdelghani> for document viewer will somebody work for make it opening on many tabs/
[09:34] <abdelghani> ?
[09:34] <bekks> Pyrrhic: If you did, we need to know WHAT you've done...
[09:35] <abdelghani> I don't know that
[09:35] <ryan_> funky1_:  i have tried several times but still wont work, however windows is not hibernated
[09:35] <Pyrrhic> bekks: I changed   GC_DONT_GC=1 $WINEXE $scriptWD/LeagueofLegends.exe
[09:35] <gogeta> abdelghani: what you speak then
[09:35] <Pyrrhic> bekks: to GC_DONT_GC=1 $WINEXE /home/pyrrhic/Downloads/LeagueofLegends.exe
[09:36] <bekks> Pyrrhic: And does that file exist?
[09:36] <abdelghani> arabic
[09:36] <Pyrrhic> Yes it does.
[09:36] <abdelghani> gogeta: Arabic
[09:36] <bekks> Pyrrhic: And are you using kde or gnome?
[09:36] <Pyrrhic> gnome
[09:36] <Pyrrhic> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[09:36] <bekks> Pyrrhic: Did you change something else in the script?
[09:36] <blackshirt> abdelghani, no matter arabics or not, you should understand, this channel not spesific to arabic languange
[09:37] <funky1> ryan_: boot up windows, open a command line and run "mount /f" also make sure you  switch off option of fast power on though windows might not be hibernated, the hibernation file might still be there which could cause the problem
[09:37] <ryan_> bekks_: my windows is not hibernated
[09:37] <gogeta> abdelghani: try #ubuntu-arabic
[09:37] <Pyrrhic> I changed the wine version to 1.5.11 at the top
[09:37] <wan26> pyrrhic, do you have the permissions set right on that file
[09:37] <Pyrrhic> Checked it in terminal
[09:37] <gogeta> !dz
[09:38] <bekks> Pyrrhic: And why didnt you read the WHOLE script to see another yellow hilight which tells you to change something when you are not using KDE?
[09:38] <gogeta> abdelghani: or #ubuntu-dz
[09:38] <Pyrrhic> I also changed those to gksu
[09:38] <enzo> hello
[09:39] <Pyrrhic> wan26: I'm pretty sure file permissions are fine.
[09:39] <bekks> Pyrrhic: Ok, I am out now. I asked you several time what you've changed to the script, obviously you never provided full information. I cant support you like that, sorry.
[09:39] <enzo> I've had a severe bug while upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04.1, error is: /usr/bin/perl: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/perl5/auto/Cwd/Cwd.so: undefined symbol: Perl_xs_apiversion_bootcheck, any idea ?
[09:39] <ryan_> funky1_:  k will try that and get back @ u
[09:40] <Pyrrhic> bekks: I'm really not trying to irritate you. I'm just new to Ubuntu. Let me make a list of changes for you in a pastebin.
[09:40] <abdelghani> blackshirt: sorry but i was not talking to you
[09:40] <blackshirt> ldconfig
[09:40] <abdelghani> gogeta: thank you very much
[09:41] <blackshirt> abdelghani, good if you understands..happy day
[09:41] <Pyrrhic> bekks: are you still here?
[09:46] <Yerushalmi> Hey folks. Since about a week ago, my computer has been randomly deciding to disconnect from wifi, and I can't reconnect to my network or any other one until I restart. Can someone help me with this?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: when it happens, run:  dmesg | tail     it may give clues
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: and what wifi chip do you use?
[09:47] <blackshirt> try to restart network-manager scripts guys?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: if you unload and reload the wifi chip, is it ok?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: the driver module, sorry
[09:48] <Pyrrhic> Someone please help me with a scripting error on 12.04 LTS involving WINE ?
[09:49] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: Wow, lots of things at once. Okay, I'll wait for it to happen again and run that first suggestion. Let me check the second one...
[09:49] <Kartagis> hi
[09:49] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: The output is "Precise".
[09:50] <Kartagis> if I were to buy a dedicated server, can I just use SSH to install a VDS on it?
[09:51] <bekks> Kartagis: Whats a VDS?
[09:51] <Pyrrhic> bekks: I apologize for earlier. I created a pastebin with every change I've made. Do you mind looking once more?
[09:51] <Kartagis> virtual dedicated server
[09:51] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: I don't know what wifi chip I have, this computer is secondhand. I have a little switch on the right side to disable and reenable wifi, which I used to use to save battery, until this issue started, because now I'm no longer able to reenable wifi after it's been disabled without restarting.
[09:51] <Kartagis> bekks: ^
[09:52] <bekks> Kartagis: Which software are you trying to use for doing so?
[09:52] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: That latter problem, where I can't reenable wifi if I disable it, I had with 11.04 and 11.10 as well on my previous computer.
[09:52] <bekks> Pyrrhic: Why dont you finally pastebin all information you already have...?
[09:52] <Pyrrhic> bekks: http://pastebin.com/zuvVp4iv
[09:52] <Pyrrhic> bekks: there you go.
[09:53] <Pyrrhic> bekks: Line 7 should read Original.
[09:53] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: How would I unload and reload the driver module?
[09:56] <august64> hi guys
[09:56] <Pyrrhic> heya
[09:56] <bekks> Pyrrhic: So after running that script, did you do like being told at the end of the script?
[09:57] <august64> i succeeded to connect the internet using blueman but i cannot surf
[09:57] <gogeta> bekks: some script majic going on hear
[09:57] <august64> the connection is not working
[09:57] <gogeta> august64: that a cell modem?
[09:57] <august64> yes
[09:58] <gogeta> august64: not surfing?
[09:58] <Pyrrhic> Yes. I know what the setup looks like and it never runs.
[09:58] <august64> gogeta: no
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: run:  sudo lshw -C network      you will see the driver module, you can then use:  sudo modprobe -r module; sudo modprobe module
[09:58] <Pyrrhic> It just creates Play_LeagueOfLegends.sh on my Desktop.
[09:59] <bekks> Pyrrhic: And what does that script say at the end...?
[09:59] <bekks> "Use the Play_LeagueOfLegends.sh to start ..." :P
[09:59] <gogeta> august64: if other stuff works may be a dns issue
[09:59] <august64> i've set proper dial-up number, APN and also edited the /etc/resolv.conf file to match the isp nameserver
[10:00] <august64> gogeta: exactly
[10:00] <gogeta> august64: use google dns or something
[10:00] <ram007> looking for open source erp experts
[10:00] <gogeta> august64: or open dns see if that works
[10:00] <Pyrrhic> Run the executable script on my desktop.
[10:01] <august64> gogeta: i've tried opendns and it didnt work
[10:01] <gogeta> august64: you set the isp one?
[10:01] <gogeta> august64: cell modems can be a pain
[10:01] <august64> gogeta: i've tried both -  isp and opendns
[10:02] <gogeta> august64: is this a phone or just a modem
[10:02] <august64> cell modems ARE a pain
[10:02] <Pyrrhic> bekks: I run the executable that was placed on my desktop as instructed and nothing happens.
[10:02] <gogeta> august64: and if your trying to use a voice sim it will not work
[10:02] <august64> a gprs cellular phone
[10:02] <wan26> it may not be set as executable
[10:02] <august64> nokia5130
[10:02] <gogeta> august64: thats it thwen
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Pyrrhic: chmod +x ~/Desktop/Play_LeagueOfLegends.sh; ~/Desktop/Play_LeagueOfLegends.sh
[10:03] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: I have "driver=iwl3945 driverversion=3.2.0-29-generic" under "configuration", which one?
[10:03] <Pyrrhic> Yes. It's executable.
[10:03] <gogeta> august64: they block that mode on voice sims
[10:03] <Pyrrhic> It runs, but nothing happens because it isn't running the setup
[10:03] <gogeta> august64: you have to teather it via another methed usb or wifi
[10:03] <august64> gogeta: i can connect to it using cable
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: sudo modprobe -r iwl3945; sleep 2; sudo modprobe iwl3945
[10:03] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: Got it.
[10:03] <gogeta> august64: yep thats how it works
[10:03] <august64> gogeta: it works on usb
[10:03] <gogeta> august64: and it will
[10:04] <august64> i need a working solution for bluetooth
[10:04] <gogeta> august64: its just how the sim card works you cant use a voice sim with that methed
[10:05] <bekks> Pyrrhic: Then take a look at that script...
[10:05] <gogeta> august64: its gonna be faster via usb or wifi anyways
[10:06] <Pyrrhic> bekks: I'm never seeing the emulation of the actual setup file in my Downloads folder running.
[10:06] <Pyrrhic> And I don't know why. Thats why I believe this isn't working.
[10:06] <bekks> Pyrrhic: Then take a look at that new script.
[10:06] <Pyrrhic> Want a pastebin of it?
[10:06] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: Okay, that disconnected and reconnected me from the internet, but there was no output to the terminal. Should I be running those commands when my internet goes down, or were you giving me diagnostic instructions?
[10:07] <Pyrrhic> http://pastebin.com/Ts4CVd9m
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: yes, you will get no output as the command succeeded
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: when the connection drops, use that command
[10:08] <gogeta> august64: thats my setup right now i got my phone in the windows at work with a wifi link
[10:08] <gogeta> window
[10:08] <gogeta> august64: using foxfi
[10:08] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: Okay, thanks, I hope it works!
[10:09] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: What do they actually do?
[10:09] <Pyrrhic> bekks: http://pastebin.com/Ts4CVd9m -- there's the pastebin of the second file. The paths within are created by wine after the install has been ran.
[10:09] <Pyrrhic> bekks: What doesn't make sense to me is, it's skipping them.
[10:10] <Kartagis> bekks: I don't know what to use
[10:10] <gogeta> lol he left before i could tell him if he just paid the devices via bluetooth networking should just strt working
[10:11] <bekks> Kartagis: ?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: reloads the driver, can make the wifi wake up
[10:12] <Kartagis> bekks: you asked me what software I intended to use
[10:12] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: lol wifi sleep ug
[10:12] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: what a pain
[10:12] <fidel> hi - as part of my desktop cleanup i was removing kdm/kde from my setup as well as removing the manual installed nvidia driver on 12.04/64bit. Later on i defined lightdm to be the default login-manager. if i reboot now i do get the following error. unable to launch "/usr/bin/startkde" X session --- "/usr/bin/startkde" not found; falling back to default session. i am wondering where is that error coming from? i assumes so far after defining lightdm as ...
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: gives the device time to power down and junk
[10:12] <fidel> ... default i shouldnt see such errors in the first place.
[10:12] <bekks> Kartagis: First, you have to know which software you want to use before installing it :)
[10:12] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: all is well untill it doesent power back up
[10:12] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: *nodnods* thanks so much. Whenever I come in here you're the one providing the answers :)
[10:13] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: i had a fan do that once
[10:13] <W4sp> fidel: ... please go ahead.
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: user is having to reboot to fix, its worth a shot
[10:14] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: had to make a script to keep sending the power = 100% every 5 minuts or so
[10:14] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: or it would slowly spin down to 0
[10:15] <fidel> W4sp: what info might be interesting= my first goal so far is to prevent this startkde message / get rid of it. step 2 would be most likely to prevent falling into fallback-session
[10:16] <fidel> any idea where this "startkde" message might coming from? who triggers it at startup?
[10:16] <Pyrrhic> bekks: Any idea?
[10:16] <ryan_> hi
[10:16] <gogeta> fidel: its proly in rc.d
[10:17] <gogeta> fidel: thats where most start up commands go
[10:17] <W4sp> fidel: One thing would be to dpkg-recoonfigure and select lightdm from the menu. I guess you have done so? Second is to make sure you select the desired DE session in lightdm prior login.
[10:18] <abdelghani> gogeta: ?
[10:18] <gogeta> fidel: i must be getting old i forgot the remove command
[10:18] <ryan_> w4sp
[10:19] <funky1> ryan_:did it work?
[10:19] <W4sp> ryan_: Hi there. How're things at your end?
[10:19] <fidel> W4sp: i did define gdm/lightdm already via dpkg-reconfigure - no effect  still seeing the kde message.
[10:19] <fidel> gonna check rc.d now i guess
[10:19] <fidel> gogeta: np - gonna dig a while ;)
[10:19] <gogeta> fidel: it should be like kdm service remove or some junk
[10:20] <gogeta> fidel: i think that is the command lol
[10:20] <ryan_> no guys windows tells me command not recognized
[10:21] <gogeta> fidel: yep sudo service kdm remove
[10:21] <gogeta> fidel: that should stop kde from starting at bot
[10:21] <bekks> ryan_: Which command...? :)
[10:21] <abdelghani> gogeta: did you see that ubuntu-dz is empty
[10:21] <abdelghani> ?
[10:22] <gogeta> abdelghani: i saw a few people in there guess its early over there
[10:22] <soman> Hi all. Why I can't reate a symlink to folder: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/xi386-linux-gnu /usr/lib64? Terminal tells me that directory already exist... I do it to correctly build with gcc. Linker cannot find crti.o which is in lib64 folder. Ubuntu 12.04 32bit
[10:22] <ryan_> bekks_: mount /f
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> soman: what is the output of:   file /usr/lib64
[10:23] <abdelghani> gogeta: it's 11:22
[10:23] <soman> ActionParsnip: /usr/lib64: directory
[10:23] <bekks> ryan_: mount is not a valid windows commands. Expected behaviour.
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> soman: then that's why, you cannot make a link it the destination already exists
[10:23] <gogeta> abdelghani: yea sometimes non english channels can be empty
[10:23] <gogeta> abdelghani: it happons
[10:24] <ryan_> bekks_: i tried this too   /f
[10:24] <ryan_> bekks_: whats shd i do now
[10:24] <soman> ActionParsnip: is any way to make linker/compiler search libs in lib64 folder instead of i386-linux-gnu?
[10:24] <bekks> ryan_: mount is not a valid windows command.
[10:25] <W4sp> fidel: I understand that this is after you have logged in successfully? If so, check /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log. It tells you the command lightdm want's to run.
[10:25] <gordonjcp> ryan_: What exactly are you trying to do?
[10:25] <W4sp> fidel: Do you have Xsession in ~/ ?
[10:25] <gogeta> W4sp: it just sounded like the kdm serivce was trying to run as well removing it should fix that
[10:26] <abdelghani> gogeta: is my English very bad?
[10:26] <Pyrrhic> bekks: I suppose I'm on my own?
[10:26] <gogeta> abdelghani: havent got the question yet all you said you have a problem with ubuntu
[10:26] <W4sp> gogeta: I see.
[10:26] <gordonjcp> abdelghani: looks okay to me, from what I've seen...
[10:27] <W4sp> brb
[10:27] <gogeta> !ask | abdelghani
[10:27] <fidel> gogeta: no removing kdm wasnt working either. i guess is see the problem now clearer ;)
[10:27] <abdelghani> gogeta: for now I was asking the developer to make the document viewer opened on many tabs
[10:28] <gogeta> abdelghani: i tabbed viewer im shure one is avable
[10:28] <abdelghani> gogeta: ok thanks how I can upgrade it?
[10:29] <gogeta> abdelghani: gedit has many addons im shure tabs is one
[10:29] <fidel> gogeta: W4sp : after removing kdm & redefiniting lightdm to be default i forgot thst lightdm was formerly defined to do autologin ;). So situation now is as follows: system boots up - uses lightdm , does autologin - which is fine so far ...but still displays the startkde error message and therefor ends up in  FALLBACK SESSION
[10:30] <ryan_> gordonjcb_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1167745/plain/
[10:30] <gogeta> abdelghani: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/top-plugins-to-extend-and-make-gedit-a-more-useful-text-editor-linux/
[10:30] <abdelghani> the one I'm using  opened on one and I have open each file on a different window
[10:30] <fidel> gogeta: W4sp got it sorted out. thanks for the pointers ;)
[10:31] <abdelghani> gogeta: the one I'm using  opened on one and I have open each file on a different window
[10:31] <gogeta> abdelghani: look in you gedit plugins you should be able to check tabs extended it give you what your asking for
[10:31] <abdelghani> gogeta: I mean the PDF files
[10:31] <ryan_> w4sp_: what do u suggest i do now
[10:34] <Subhajit> How to install ubuntu 12.04 on an imac 21''? is it even possible?
[10:34] <gogeta> abdelghani: http://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/04/qpdfview-pdf-reader-ubuntu-linux/
[10:34] <gogeta> abdelghani: thats what your looking for
[10:35] <ryan_> gordonjcb_: anytime i try to open c: from ubuntu i get this message http://paste.ubuntu.com/1167745/plain/
[10:35] <gogeta> abdelghani: it should be in the repod
[10:35] <gogeta> abdelghani: repos
[10:35] <abdelghani> I'm busy checking and I'll come back to you
[10:37] <Subhajit> How to install ubuntu 12.04 on an imac 21''? is it even possible?
[10:39] <ryan_> could this be a factor? i installed ubuntu before windows 8 and later recovered ubuntu grub
[10:40] <gogeta> ryan_: this seems to be a isue with windows 8
[10:40] <gogeta> ryan_: are they using winfs or something
[10:40] <gogeta> ryan_: in fact they are
[10:41] <gogeta> ryan_: windows 8 uses a new fs that mean linux support is 0 right now
[10:41] <gogeta> ryan_: its called protogon aka winfs
[10:42] <ryan_> gogeta_: k
[10:42] <blackshirt> what the benefits over ntfs?
[10:42] <gogeta> blackshirt: supposadly it cant be cruppted
[10:42] <blackshirt> corrupted?
[10:42] <gogeta> blackshirt: thats the clame
[10:43] <blackshirt> I think that was bullshit... Just a hoax
[10:43] <gogeta> blackshirt: i take that with a huge grain of salf
[10:43] <gogeta> blackshirt: yea lol
[10:43] <ryan_> gogeta_: but i can open it using slax
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> i'd give it about 2 years, then see how 'uncorruptable' it is
[10:44] <blackshirt> i have xfs linux over 5 years
[10:44] <EDawg878> How can I mute a specific application in a script?
[10:44] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: seems they have alot of names for it refs
[10:45] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: seems to apply to servers
[10:45] <blackshirt> yes, for marketing use lol
[10:45] <ryan_> gogeta_: what do i do then?
[10:45] <gogeta> ryan_: seems there still using ntfs but a new version
[10:46] <blackshirt> was apple win over samsung on that claim?
[10:46] <gogeta> ryan_: so it whont be long before linux supports that again
[10:47] <wan26> apple won, but there's an appeal
[10:47] <gogeta> ryan_: i guess people who did get it to mount had major issues
[10:47] <ryan_> gogeta_: k
[10:47] <gogeta> ryan_: sync all off and stuff
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> EDawg878: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+question/20153
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> EDawg878: i'd ask in #pulse
[10:48] <EDawg878> thanks
[10:48] <blackshirt> that would hurt linux communities?
[10:48] <gogeta> ryan_: the linux ntfs devs will have to work there magic and update to the new rev
[10:49] <ryan_> gogeta_: thanks for yr help bro
[10:49] <blackshirt> that would hurt linux communities wan26
[10:50] <ryan_> what does swap mean
[10:50] <gogeta> blackshirt: google is on the atack now so i have a felling this is all gonna go away
[10:50] <iceroot> !ot
[10:50] <blackshirt> googeta, likes a war
[10:50] <gogeta> fine fine  lol
[10:51] <Subhajit> is it possible to install ubuntu on a imac?
[10:51] <gogeta> ill be in that room
[10:51] <iceroot> !mac | Subhajit
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> Subhajit: yes, there is a PPC ISO you can use
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Subhajit: you will need flash alternatives like gnash / lighspark to get flash in the browser
[10:52] <wan26> im not sure, but i hope it doesnt affect the community in any way blackshirt
on intel?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Subhajit: then install the usual desktop OS, flash will be fine (while adobe support us)
actually i am planning to buy an imac. i have heard that linux does not work well under apple hardware. is it true?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Subhajit: it can work, If you are just going to put Ubuntu on, why not save a heap of cash and buy a regular system rather than an overpriced mac?
i know.... but i want to use mac.... :) is there any other way to use it
[10:56] <xxx> d
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Subhajit: it'll work. imho you are wasting a lot of cash
[10:57] <ryan_> is swap important, can i just skip it
i'm confused
[10:57] <Subhajit> =D
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Subhajit: if you buy a mac it will probably work, but you could spend half the price of a mac on something known to work well
[10:58] <MaMaD> Problem With Mount
[10:58] <Platypus-Man2k> I intend to buy a monitor with 2560 x 1440 res soon, and then if I like it, the plan is to get another one in dual screen mode, but I think I read somewhere about max resolution for Xorg not going that high (5120 x 1440), but can not find that when googling now... can anyone confirm or disprove my lousy memory?
[10:58] <MaMaD> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[10:58] <MaMaD> Unprivileged user can not mount NTFS block devices using the external FUSE
[10:58] <MaMaD> library. Either mount the volume as root, or rebuild NTFS-3G with integrated
[10:58] <MaMaD> FUSE support and make it setuid root. Please see more information at
[10:58] <MaMaD> http://tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-faq/#unprivileged
[10:58] <FloodBot1> MaMaD: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:58] <MaMaD> Sorry :)
[10:58] <sagaci> :)
what 'something'? are u talking about hackintosh?????????
[10:59] <wan26> floodbot is so polite :]
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Subhajit: no, like an HP, or a Dell
[11:00] <sagaci> MaMaD, make sure you have ntfs-3g installed and then sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdaX /media/cooldrive
[11:01] <gordonjcp> Subhajit: it's mildly faffy to install Ubuntu on a Mac, but start googling for "refit"
[11:01] <Subhajit> ActionParsnip: yeah..that's true. I'm not sure yet. May buy a custom desktop
[11:01] <gordonjcp> Subhajit: if you already have a mac, great, but don't go out of your way to buy one unless you also want to use OSX
[11:03] <Subhajit> gordonjcp: i dont have a mac, neither have i used it. I do use ubuntu though(and love it BTW).What do u think, should i buy a desktop pc(assembled)?
[11:05] <W4sp> ryan_: I just came back - had a support call. Did you get your probelm solved?
[11:05] <Subhajit> gordonjcp:???
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Subhajit: depends on needs
[11:06] <ryan_> w4sp_: i was told is an issue with windows 8
[11:06] <W4sp> fidel: Sorry, I had a support call. Did you get your probelm solved?
[11:08] <W4sp> ryan_: OK. Thanks for letting me know. :-) There's #windows on FN.
[11:08] <ryan_> w4sp_: and ubuntu doesent support protogon aka winfs which unfortunately is what windows 8 uses
[11:10] <fidel> W4sp: yep - solved that issue. thanks for asking.
[11:11] <W4sp> fidel: That's great. :-)
[11:12] <ryan_> helooooo... does ubuntu have any software similar to pd proxy?
[11:14] <Platypus-Man2k> does anyone know the max resolution of Ubuntu with a multi-monitor setup?
[11:15] <W4sp> ryan_: Would tor or i2p do?
[11:16] <Zentaur> hello
[11:17] <Zentaur> I'm trying to improve ubuntu 12.04 in my netbook
[11:17] <devish> somehow the unity DE is broked in my system i am not able to login with ubuntu(actually its not in menu too)
[11:17] <devish> how could i get this back
[11:17] <Zentaur> I'm disabling some startup services that I won't use
[11:17] <Zentaur> can I disable Mount helper?
[11:18] <ryan_> w4sp_:
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Zentaur: also ADD this to /etc/sysctl.conf http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/sysctl
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Zentaur: also installing prefetch can help
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> sorry, preload
[11:20] <bobo123> sometimes when I start ubuntu it do a check of filesystems and that taked a while, what command is it running, and in what file is that command?
[11:20] <Zentaur> mm ok, i'll try prefetch
[11:20] <bobo123> I'm running ubuntu10.04
[11:20] <Zentaur> threre are soome services that I don't know if i must dissable
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Zentaur: prefetch isn't a package afaik, preload is
[11:21] <W4sp> bobo123: It's probably fsck. It normally runs when a partition is not flagged as clean.
[11:22] <bobo123> W4sp:  but if I run fsck manuall it is finished in 0 second, I want to run it completly just like it do during start sometimes
[11:22] <Zentaur> SSH and GPG keyrings, gsettings, gnome configuration daemon, files...
[11:23] <gordonjcp> Subhajit: if you're only going to run Ubuntu, just get a normal PC rather than a mac
[11:23] <gordonjcp> Subhajit: that said, I'm running it on a macbook, because I got one relatively cheaply
[11:23] <bobo123> There must be some when-starting-computer file that have the command with parameters it uses during start, right?
[11:24] <gordonjcp> bobo123: there's quite a lot of that
[11:24] <W4sp> bobo123: Unless you have RAID, that periodically can remove the clean flag there's no need to run fsck(8) manually.
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> bobo123: could do it in liveCD
[11:27] <ryan_> my ubuntu runs slow is there any way i ccan speed it up?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> ryan_: tried Unity2D session?
[11:27] <pritesh> need light weight GUI for my command line :(
[11:28] <gogeta> pritesh: err what
[11:28] <gogeta> pritesh: umm mc
[11:28] <gogeta> pritesh: gui ffor command line?
[11:29] <pritesh> gogeta means for my OS
[11:29] <gogeta> pritesh: you can go pretty extream and just use xinit
[11:29] <gogeta> pritesh: or lxde
[11:29] <ryan_> actionparsnip_: no
[11:29] <gogeta> pritesh: just how lite you wanna go lol
[11:30] <pritesh> gogeta i just installed command line ubuntu and now looking for light GUI because i have to finish every thing under 1.4 GB
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> ryan_: what video chip do you use?
[11:30] <gogeta> pritesh: what aboguht awsome window manager
[11:30] <pritesh> gogeta thinking to spend only 10-20 MB for GUI
[11:30] <gogeta> pritesh: thats relly light
[11:31] <EricJ> So I'm setting up a machine running 12.04 Server, and I'm trying to give my users permission to play sound. (For example, using `speaker-test`) Currently, only root can do that, normal users (even those in the "sound"-group) gets "permission denied" errors. Suggestions?
[11:31] <ryan_> actionparsnip_: how can i find out
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> ryan_: lspci | grep -i vga
[11:31] <jordy> Hi can somebody help with a ubuntu installation?
[11:31] <gogeta> pritesh: http://awesome.naquadah.org/
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> jordy: ask away
[11:31] <pritesh> gogeta checking
[11:31] <bobo123> ActionParsnip:  I have another install of ubuntu that I can check from
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> pritesh: gogeta: also flwm is super light
[11:32] <bobo123> gordonjcp:  please tell :-)
[11:32] <gogeta> pritesh: x itsself it probly going to be biger then 30mb
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> bobo123: as long as yu have access to the partition without it being mounted, or booted, it is fine
[11:32] <W4sp> !pm
[11:32] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: awsome is pretty mutch tabed based
[11:32] <bobo123> W4sp: no I don't do raid. but I have normal fat32-partitions that ubuntu sometimes like to check during start, I don't want that. I want to check them manually when I have time
[11:32] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: vno real gui to it
[11:33] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: no real
[11:33] <jordy> my problem is that i am using the standart ubuntu. but I have a ssd card usind raid what is causing problems by setting the partition
[11:33] <ryan_> k
[11:33] <afief> is ubuntu.com down? neither the website nor the respositories are working
[11:34] <wan26> i can access it
[11:34] <Platypus-Man2k> afief: it is up for me too http://www.isup.me/ubuntu.com
[11:34] <Platypus-Man2k> and I just wget a package just fine, but it used norwegian repos
[11:35] <ryan_> actionparsnip_: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[11:36] <W4sp> bobo123: I see. There are good reasons for any Unix-like system to do just that. To circumvent mechanism that serve integrity and consistency of file systems are beyond the scope of my consultancy and services. ;-) Ask the channel if they can help.
[11:36] <gordonjcp> bobo123: What exactly are you trying to do?
[11:37] <ryan_> actionparsnip_:
[11:37] <vangelas> I installed firefox 14.0.1 manually as well as the latest flash plugin, but firefox cannot 'see' the plugins. Any ideas why?
[11:38] <ryan_> !pm
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> ryan_: should be ok, try the 2D version though
[11:41] <ryan_> actionparsnip_: do i  do that from the logon sreen
[11:41] <bobo123> gordonjcp: so there is never a delay during start of the computer. but instead so I can do all those checks whenever I have time. during coffe break fr example. so no filesystems check during start, neither ext or fat32 or ntfs, but instead all those checks when I drink coffe
[11:43] <coellobranco> saludos
[11:45] <bobo123> I assume that lots of unix systems are modeled for computers that is never turned off - but this is not one of them. this is turned on when used, and then turned off again. but I still want to be able to manually do all the filesystem check when I feel like it (and that is not during start of the computer, rather before turn off sometimes)
[11:46] <HAMKoot> bobo123, fsck can only be used, when the disk is unmounted ( best way is at startup)
[11:47] <gianni_777> hi everybody
[11:47] <bobo123> HAMKoot: I have another ubuntu installed that I can ran the check of the normal ubuntus root filesystem it from though
[11:47] <pwqpol> After i close my laptop ubuntu is not loading at all.Any clues? Ubuntu 12.04, Lenovo g525
[11:49] <gianni_777> anyone may tell me how fix my flash plugin because i can't see any video on you tube or other devices flash...please!! thank yuo..
[11:49] <bobo123> but best would be to have it check the disk when you exit ubuntu, can it be made to do that? Ubuntu must unmount the partitions during exit I assume
[11:49] <gordonjcp> bobo123: no, they kind of need to be done on startup because the filesystems can't be mounted
[11:50] <gordonjcp> bobo123: it's only ever done every 30 boots or so, and you can adjust how often it happens
[11:50] <Zentaur> would you recomend me something more to improve the performance of the pangolin in my netbook?
[11:50] <gordonjcp> bobo123: an extra couple of minutes every six months or so isn't going to hurt
[11:50] <jbermudes> What does it mean when a partition can't be found by grub's ls but it's found by gparted on a liveCD?
[11:50] <gordonjcp> Zentaur: more memory
[11:50] <SwashBuckla> hey there, I'm trying to find out what ubuntu uses as it's DVD drive. It's not /dev/dvd, do you know what it is?
[11:51] <bobo123> gordonjcp:  but they are unmounted right before the system is powered down on exit, right? do it could be done then at every 30 turn off?
[11:51] <SwashBuckla> I'm using growisofs to burn an iso to dvd and need to know what the DVD device is to specify it at commandline. What directory is it under? It's not /dev/dvd2 or /dev/dvdrw2
[11:51] <gordonjcp> not really
[11:51] <gordonjcp> you'd need to shut down completely and reboot
[11:51] <gordonjcp> so you're back running off initrd
[11:52] <bobo123> gordonjcp:  I don't know how you use your computer but I certainly turn on the computer more than 30 times per 6 months !
[11:52] <SwashBuckla> any ideas?
[11:52] <gordonjcp> bobo123: why?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> SwashBuckla: sudo lshw -C disk; sudo lshw -C drive
[11:53] <bobo123> gordonjcp:  it is turned on when used. then turned off again. why would I have it on when I don't use it?
[11:53] <krababbel> bobo123: can't you use hibernation?
[11:53] <bobo123> why would I ?
[11:53] <krababbel> ease of use
[11:53] <bobo123> no
[11:53] <gordonjcp> because it starts instantly and uses no power?
[11:53] <gordonjcp> all my PCs are in constant use, 24/7
[11:54] <bobo123> I want the computer so start clean, no old programs running.
[11:54] <gordonjcp> that makes no difference
[11:54] <bobo123> gordonjcp: why do you have your computers on when you are not using them???? that is really trange for something not a server
[11:54] <bobo123> *strange
[11:54] <gordonjcp> bobo123: because they *always* doing something
[11:55] <gordonjcp> there is never a point during the day when any of my PCs is idle
[11:55] <gordonjcp> *are
[11:55] <bobo123> well my computer don't do anything when I don't surf the web or play a game. I don't want it to do anything when I'm not in front of it.
[11:55] <gordonjcp> so hibernate it, or even suspend
[11:55] <ryan_> how do i get rid all the drop down list under network
[11:55] <gordonjcp> it works just as well on desktops as on laptops
[11:55] <AtoxHybrid> hiya, for some reason white (and very light grey) fonts in google chrome look very fuzzy since today. Black and pretty much every other color is fine. anybody knows what caused this and how to fix it? (ubuntu 12.04)
[11:56] <bobo123> that is not an option for me. I'm not interested in your computer use though,. I want to be able to do a complete check of all filesystem when I like it, ideally before power off if it can't be made when the os is running.
[11:57] <bobo123> that should be possible, right?
[11:57] <gianni_777> flash player..i can't see anything....you tube ..nothing anyone could help me? please..
[11:57] <SwashBuckla> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/Ab0aQe4u
[11:57] <SwashBuckla> ActionParsnip: there seems to be many devices aliases
[11:58] <Zentaur> gordonjcp, that's not a possibility. It has 2 gb. It's enough
[11:58] <gordonjcp> Zentaur: in which case, try one of the lighter DEs?
[11:58] <SwashBuckla> ActionParsnip: but using growisofs on any of them doesn't work, giving this output: http://pastebin.com/tKYMRYRU
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> SwashBuckla: then use:  /dev/cdrw2 if it is a CD ISO, and /dev/dvdrw2  if you are using a DVD ISO
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> SwashBuckla: you need to make an IS of the data
[11:59] <ryan_> any help please.... how can i delete all connections made by bluetooth under network list
[12:00] <yatta> installed gconf-editor and want to remove key 'visual' in app/totem/ but it appears unchanged why?
[12:00] <yatta> removed*
[12:00] <Zentaur> Ubuntu in generl has become very fat to run like Bolt
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Zentaur: then install Xubuntu, or Lubuntu
[12:01] <Zentaur> I tryied both and more systems
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Zentaur: if you install ubuntu minimal, then install slim and fluxbox you will have a super light OS at about 1.2Gb installed
[12:02] <ryan_> any help please.... how can i delete all connections made by bluetooth under network list
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Zentaur: lighter than most
[12:02] <yatta> when I run movie player type of visualization is still there I want it set to nothing
[12:02] <Zentaur> I'll gve it a try. Thanks
[12:02] <yatta> like it was
[12:03] <gianni_777> flash player...how to install .... ubunut 12.04 lts thanx
[12:03] <ryan_> actionparsnip_:
[12:03] <stevo871> Is anyone any good at recovering hard drive in Ubuntu?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> gianni_777: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: why not just use your backups..
[12:04] <stevo871> the hard drive was in a Synology Diskstation, I have installed ubuntu to try and recover the data (and also because I havent played about in linux for year)
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> gianni_777: can you give a pastebin of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> gianni_777: something like http://pastie.org will do
[12:06] <gianni_777> ActionParsnip...ok thank you
[12:08] <stevo871> it keeps telling me about a bad superblock, its currently looking for a secondary superblock
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: there are a few
[12:09] <stevo871> ActionParsnip: Its been looking for about 15 mins just drawing dots in the terminal screen
[12:10] <yatta> is there way to set Type of visualization: to nothing like it was?
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: why don't you just restore data from backup?
[12:10] <yatta> in totem's movei player
[12:10] <yatta> movie*
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> yatta: if you rename the config folder for totem, is it ok after yuo rerun it?
[12:10] <stevo871> ActionParsnip: I dont think there is a backup
[12:11] <fidel> hi - ubuntu 12.04 with a passive nvidia card (9500) and 2 displays. according to 'Additional drivers' i am not using any special graphics driver which should mean i do run nouveau - right?. Wondering how to get my dual-display setup now working - as right now only 1 display is working. 'displays' shows also only 1 screen.
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: there is only a backup if you make one
[12:11] <yatta> lemme try
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: why did you not make a backup if the data is important to you?
[12:11] <stevo871> that was the whole idea of removing the drive, I purchased a larger drive to back the data up to
[12:12] <yatta> ActionParsnip, I don't have option to rename folder
[12:12] <stevo871> I presumed that by removing the drive I could plug it into my comptuer and copy the files across
[12:12] <pii3> hi im on ubuntu 64bit 10.04 LTS
[12:12] <pii3> im trying to connect to vpn server with pon
[12:12] <pii3> modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting padlock_sha
[12:12] <pii3> device not found !!!
[12:13] <pii3> Warning during boot: WARNING: Error inserting padlock_sha (/lib/modules/2.6.24/12-generic/kernel/drivers/crypto/padlock-sha-.ko): No such device
[12:13] <gordonjcp> stevo871: did you write anything to the hard disk?
[12:14] <gordonjcp> stevo871: if it's in ext2/3/4 then there are alternate superblocks you can try using when you mount
[12:14] <pii3> http://pastebin.com/Eesx3Pkh
[12:14] <stevo871> not that I am aware of, on the discstation I clicked to eject the hard disk which I presumed would make it into a readable state
[12:14] <gordonjcp> stevo871: alternatively hit it with a wee bit of photorec or testdisk
[12:15] <yatta> ActionParsnip, I can unset key or edit it
[12:15] <stevo871> I have managed to get all the superblock numbers, I have tried about the first 4 but had no luck
[12:15] <savr> in light of the apple victory over the weekend will ubuntu be changing it's default app icons?
[12:15] <Basomis> How can I delay gnome-terminal? http://s13.postimage.org/4v9eq5wtz/2012_08_26_150955_1280x1024_scrot.png
[12:15] <gianni_777> ActionParsnip:...ok done
[12:15] <gordonjcp> stevo871: maybe it's been overwritten
[12:16] <stevo871> gordonjcp: I hope it hasnt :( i have tried the software you mentioned before and it was finding my files but there was no names or structure
[12:16] <pii3> anyhelp ?
[12:16] <gianni_777> ActionParsnip: ok done..
[12:17] <yatta> BTW that's fresh install of gconf-editor
[12:17] <yatta> if that matters
[12:17] <stevo871> I found this article - http://forum.synology.com/enu/viewtopic.php?f=160&t=51393 << however some of the commands dont work on my computer for some reason?
[12:18] <stevo871> when I do sudo mdadm --assemble --scan it says "no arrays found in config file or automatically", any thoughts?
[12:19] <pii3> plz
[12:19] <pii3> modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting padlock_sha
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> pii3: try:  sudo modprobe padlock_aha -vv
[12:20] <gordonjcp> stevo871: yeah, it doesn't work *that* well with ext format
[12:21] <stevo871> ah :( any thoughts of geting around this?
[12:21] <pii3> ActionParsnip, insmod /lib/modules/2.6.32-42-generic/kernel/drivers/crypto/padlock-sha.ko
[12:21] <pii3> FATAL: Error inserting padlock_sha (/lib/modules/2.6.32-42-generic/kernel/drivers/crypto/padlock-sha.ko): No such device
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> pii3: ok, see what that means
[12:22] <pii3> u mean i need to install somehting
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> pii3: using Lucid?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> pii3: thought about an update to Precise?
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:just clean installed 12.04.1 LTS it was fast as rocket install and everything works
[12:24] <pii3> ActionParsnip, im on 10.04 LTS
[12:24] <hddsata6gb> hi
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> pii3: take the advice of ActionParsnip, its really worth a clean install
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> hddsata6gb:hi, you got any issues mate?
[12:25] <grumbly> I am semi-new to ubuntu (linux as a whole, really) and I'm trying to tune my system by disabling some kernel modules...  I don't know where to look for which ones I can safely disable.
[12:25] <pii3> guys i cannot
[12:25] <pii3> i have some problem that most be on 10.04
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> grumbly: install ubuntu-tweak it does it all for you
[12:25] <pii3> plz help me to solve this :(
[12:26] <grumbly> lotuspsychje: it's not though... I don't know if it's because I am on Kubuntu or what...
[12:26] <pii3> it was okay on 10.04 x86 but this 64-bit installation has problem
[12:26] <yatta> I opened configure editor --> apps --> totem --> unset 'visual' key --> opened movie player --> edit --> preferences --> display and type of visualization is still same as before unsetting key
[12:26] <Wizard> grumbly: Only needed modules are being loaded.
[12:26] <Wizard> grumbly: Who suggested you to play with them?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> pii3: use the web and see what the error means when you used the modprobe command
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> grumbly: http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> pii3: I recommend you install Precise, it may help things
[12:27] <grumbly> Wizard: I need parport_pc and joydev?
[12:27] <stevo871> so I presume I will not be able to recover data off this hard drive then?
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> stevo871: install testdisk
[12:27] <Wizard> If your hardware has this - yes.
[12:27] <BoozeWooz> hello
[12:28] <Wizard> Hi BoozeWooz
[12:28] <grumbly> Wizard: It doesn't...
[12:28] <Wizard> grumbly: LOL.
[12:28] <BoozeWooz> :o how you do this red text?
[12:28] <hddsata6gb> stevo871,  theres always a way to get it working
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: you can maybe use foremost
[12:28] <grumbly> I mean, it doesn't have a joystick or parallel port...
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: you have learned the value of backups the hardest way possible
[12:28] <stevo871> lotuspsychje: how can I install that?
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | stevo871
[12:29] <hddsata6gb> lol turth spoken
[12:29] <BoozeWooz> i want to build up a distro from the ground up, can someone tell me the difference between ubuntu and debian?
[12:29] <stevo871> ActionParsnip: Yes I have, next time will go out and but a spare external one
[12:29] <grumbly> Wizard: I guess I am asking for more information about specific modules
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> stevo871: after install open terminal and type photorec , the best recovery app ever for lost partitions
[12:29] <grumbly> such as their dependencies and depends
[12:29] <Wizard> I don't remember all modules by heart.
[12:29] <Wizard> :P
[12:29] <grumbly> Wizard: i wouldnt expect you to.
[12:30] <grumbly> :P
[12:30] <stevo871> lotus: where do I install it from though?
[12:30] <Wizard> grumbly: I think that disabling these modules will give you few megs of RAM free, so.. I'm not sure if this is worth doing.
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> stevo871: from terminal?
[12:31] <grumbly> Wizard: there are a few with 0's
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: install foremostin liveCD, it may help. You will need a writable storage t spit the data to
[12:32] <grumbly> also, Ubuntu tweak looks really weird, and has almost no options,
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> grumbly:you can cleanup your system with it
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> grumbly: its a 3rd party app, contact the developers
[12:33] <grumbly> lotuspsychje: I am aware.
[12:33] <stevo871> I cannot get it to install testdisk so I will try that foremostin live CD, will I be ok putting that on a pen drive?
[12:33] <Wizard> grumbly: Let's start from beginning, what is your goal?
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: you can install foremost in the ubuntu live desktop
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: assuming you have web access
[12:33] <stevo871> yeah I think the web access is working
[12:34] <matiosiem5> guys, which package is responsible for showing music player info in volume icon menu ?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: cool
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> matiosiem5: run:  dpkg -l | grep indicator
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> matiosiem5: one will be sound based
[12:35] <stevo871> this would be so much easier if my mouse worked lol
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: got a USB mouse?
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> BoozeWooz: you like mullvad for ubuntu?
[12:35] <grumbly> Wizard: lol! ok.  I am on a learning expedition and a tweaking fest.  I have experience with freebsd and have been a USER using Ubuntu for ~2 years now.  I am essentially just trying to eek out as much performance as possible without compromising the usability and stability of this system (which is freshly installed)
[12:36] <williamherry> when will ubuntu read ~/.bashrc? I add some alias to ~/.bashrc, it is not available in gnome-terminal
[12:36] <stevo871> downloaded foremost, done sudo foremost, now it says its processing stdin ?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> grumbly: playing with /etc/sysctl.conf can help
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> grumbly: also installing preload can help
[12:37] <Wizard> grumbly: Ah..
[12:37] <grumbly> Wizard: I'm not expecting to be able to host a database server and load balance off my laptop, but I would like maybe to have a slightly snappier system
[12:37] <matiosiem5> ActionParsnip, yes I have indicator-sound and indicator-sound-gtk2 installed both but still no controls in volume tray icon
[12:37] <Wizard> Disabling modules is definitely not what you want :D
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> grumbly: if you install a lighter desktop than the default gnome it will be fster too :)
[12:37] <grumbly> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the advice!  I am a little beyond those already though
[12:38] <Wizard> I would start from disabling daemons run in background, grumbly
[12:38] <yatta> ActionParsnip, I renamed folder named totem which is in folder .gconf nothing really changed
[12:38] <hddsata6gb> lotuspsychje,  yesi do
[12:38] <grumbly> Wizard: where/how would I go about this?
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> hddsata6gb:do what?
[12:39] <grumbly> Wizard: I've been plunking around with BUM, but honestly, FreeBSD is SOOOOO different, I am not comfortable doing it alone
[12:39] <stevo871> how long should foremost be processing stdin for?
[12:39] <grumbly> Other than with BUM that is
[12:39] <yatta> I thought it would be easy
[12:39] <Wizard> grumbly: Dunno what's BUM, check update-rc.d command ;)
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> !info bum | Wizard
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: depends on the size of the partition, the amount of data and the complexity of the data etc
[12:40] <Wizard> Ah.
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: usually its a long while
[12:40] <Wizard> So you've already played with it, grumbly
[12:40] <stevo871> ActionParsnip: Cheers, back in a bit then
[12:40] <grumbly> Wizard: yes
[12:40] <grumbly> lol
[12:40] <grumbly> Thanks ActionParsnip
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> grumbly: sudo sed -i .s/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g. /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop     and you will see ALL the startup apps in the startup application, rather than just the user ones
[12:41] <Wizard> grumbly: Besides, there is an old (very old) IT rule, optimise only if it runs slow.
[12:41] <hddsata6gb> i have a 3tb hdd and i want to dual boot it.. first i want to put xp on it but it doesnt see it in the install screen.. to drive shows up ,but it shows up in ubcd( ubcd.com) in gparted
[12:41] <Wizard> Have you ran your databases and so off your laptop and tested it's performance?
[12:42] <grumbly> Wizard: LOL! no... whatever databases I have installed (and Im not sure what they are yet) are only accessed locally.
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> hddsata6gb: XP may not have the SATA drivers in. I suggest you aSK IN ##WINDOWS FOR THAT
[12:43] <Wizard> Ah, so you're just beginning your journey on minefields of IT? :D
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> hddsata6gb: sorry for caps
[12:43] <zoktar> is there a 12.10 testing channel cant read the whole topic on simple client
[12:43] <Wizard> grumbly: ^
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> hddsata6gb:loose the windows and single install precise :p
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> hddsata6gb: when you do get windows install started, leave unpartitioned space for ubuntu to install to, this wil sidestep the need to resize partitions
[12:43] <grumbly> Wizard: essentially
[12:44] <grumbly> well, essentially with Linux
[12:44] <Wizard> grumbly: Want my advice?  There is the ultimate boot cd too, it has the drive testers from the main drive manufacturers. You can test at a low level with those
[12:46] <hddsata6gb> lotuspsychje,  its a gui headach.. and my presious 10.04 the updates seemed cooked// as if someone wanted me to force me to a differnct distro..  cap are if ActionParsnip  and what do you mean?
[12:46] <Wizard> grumbly: What kind of database do you have?   Well, I think I have one in Amarok
[12:47] <grumbly> ActionParsnip: Thanks!
[12:47] <zoktar> also i cb
[12:48] <hddsata6gb> lotuspsychje,  i know.. ... every ubuntu distro suffers from the upgrade bug
[12:48] <BluesKaj> HI all
[12:48] <hddsata6gb> hi
[12:48] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: at this point malin g a backup of both drives and trying to find 2 new hd's there are 2 old hd's in there 1 of 30 gig and 1 of 60 gig it's about time I guess to upgrade those into 500 gig each :p
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> grumbly: lots of stuff you can hack out
[12:48] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: *making
[12:48] <zoktar> is there a mini.iso for 12.04.1 yet?
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> hddsata6gb: i lost xp for years, never going back neither
[12:49] <hddsata6gb> ActionParsnip,  grumbly  dont forget to stop by and buy a new shiny ax XDDD
[12:49] <grumbly> hddsata6gb: what?
[12:50] <railsraider> what is 0 * * * * for a cron tab means? disabled? run every minute?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> railsraider: runs every hour of every day at x o'clock
[12:50] <llutz> railsraider: every h+0minutes
[12:50]  * Wizard nods
[12:50] <railsraider> thanks llutz
[12:50] <grumbly> i'm not trying to hack the thing.  I'm just playing with it
[12:50] <hddsata6gb> its a joke grumbly .. think.. lots of stuff you can hack out ... grumbly  dont forget to stop by and buy a new shiny ax XDDD
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> grumbly: disabling bluetooth and stuff like taht is good if you don't use it
[12:51] <llutz> zoktar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> railsraider: if you have a desktop UI you can use gnome-schedule as a cron GUI, use:  gksudo gnome-schedule     to cron as root
[12:52] <grumbly> ActionParsnip: OK!  Still, I cant seem to figure out where the information on the modules actually is... is there a manpage or something I'm just not seeing?
[12:52] <hddsata6gb> lotuspsychje,  though i love linux and the want its set up much like p2p.. there are just a few thing i must have.. and thats family and less agrueing about what my computer does..
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> hddsata6gb:what alternatives you still need mate?
[12:53] <yatta> no gconf-editor doesn't solve the problem when you want to remove configuration of type of visualization in totem's move player...what should I do?
[12:54] <bohemian9485> NickServ identify f!R3cl@n#1rC
[12:54] <yatta> movie*
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> bohemian9485: time for a new pasword dude
[12:54] <SkippersBoss> lol
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> lol
[12:54] <Wizard> grumbly: You can browse linux source, each module has "readme" file with brief description.
[12:54] <grumbly> Wizard: AH! THANK YOU!
[12:55] <Sidewinder1> bohemian9485, What ActionParsnip said,.
[12:55] <Wizard> grumbly: Also, when you do make menuconfig, you can browse all kernel stuff and read help. It gives a nice overview.
[12:55] <Wizard> bohemian9485: Prepare to land on bash ;]
[12:56] <bohemian9485> Still getting use to irc on mobile
[12:56] <grumbly> Wizard: I will not be even pretending to recompile the kernel yet
[12:56] <Wizard> You don't have to.
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> is there a way to view own webcam tru terminal without package for it?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: so like an ascii representation?
[12:57] <Wizard> grumbly: menuconfig only prepares configuration, but you don't have to change anything.
[12:57] <Wizard> grumbly: Just look arround ;)
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: no lol, i mean like raw webcam view after a terminal command
[12:57] <grumbly> Oh.  OK!  Thanks a bunch!
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: could launch cheese from terminal, it may show stuff
[12:58] <grumbly> ActionParsnip: that sed command doesn't seem to help me on Kubuntu
[12:58] <hddsata6gb> well i need xp to install for the neighbor.  and i need to to dual boot so i can have him worry less about the nes 1k $ + moster of a computer i built for him... if he nudes the os its ok i got a copy to install and linux...  but im not even sure where to start... my pc is acer aspire am1100-b1410a   and im not sure if the new hdd sata 3tb  will work.
[12:58] <hddsata6gb> look up uvc
[12:59] <hddsata6gb> lotuspsychje,
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> grumbly: should be the same, should then show all the apps in startup, not sure if kubuntu uses different shizzle
[12:59] <grumbly> ActionParsnip: no... I fatfingered
[12:59] <grumbly> sorry
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | hddsata6gb
[13:00] <grumbly> Man, No joke, FBSD and Linux are just different enough to frustrate
[13:00] <wjtaylor> Driver kernel mod won't compile. It's from the debian repos. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1168000/
[13:00] <grumbly> Ok, thanks for all your help ActionParsnip and Wizard
[13:00] <Wizard> I didn't help much, grumbly.
[13:01] <grumbly> Wizard: you told me about the source tree (pointing is helping!)
[13:01] <Wizard> grumbly: But watch out with playing with linux.
[13:01] <grumbly> Thanks again!
[13:01] <grumbly> I will
[13:01] <Raydiation> can anyone recommend a musicplayer like banshee? banshee is crashing a lot recently
[13:01] <grumbly> (also, not a production system so not much of an issue)
[13:01] <Wizard> grumbly: You may become a geek and girls will avoid you :/
[13:01] <hddsata6gb> ActionParsnip,  is like a channel op.. but he does not get paid for it.. i would be lost about y samba... with out him
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> Raydiation:some swear by vlc
[13:02] <Raydiation> i got 50k songs
[13:02] <grumbly> Wizard: I have a girlfriend, tattoos of chemical formulae, and I drive a busted 92 ford explorer
[13:02] <grumbly> chicks love me :)
[13:02] <Wizard> Busted?
[13:02] <grumbly> Busted = barely safe to drive
[13:02] <Walther> !ot
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> lets keep it to ubuntu
[13:02] <Wizard> grumbly: /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:03] <pii3> REALLY no way to fix  padlock_sha padlock-sha.ko no such device
[13:03] <grumbly> Wizard: lol  I know.  I'm taking off now anyhow
[13:03] <wjtaylor> It's for debian, I just used the past bin.
[13:03] <Wizard> 92 Ford Explorer doesn't look that bad ;P
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: i fixxed the square mouse pointer by clean installing precise 12.04.1 mate
[13:04] <ThinkT510> !yay | lotuspsychje
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:seems like some systems take over grafix stuff on upgrade
[13:06] <gehuigert> could someone help me with some ubuntu trouble with the /etc/fstab file and permissions?
[13:06] <shtrb> anyone here using krdc and know how to access the \\\\tsclient\\ when connecting from a Lin box to windows ?
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> gehuigert:best use pastebin to channel here mate
[13:06] <hddsata6gb> im looking at dual booting doc and it gies me the command line.. could there be a app so i can just make so i can latter just put it on auto-run?
[13:06] <shtrb> *as in shares
[13:07] <SolarisBoy> shtrb: not using krdc but generally if it's enabled it's present in the windows network browser in explorer
[13:07] <SolarisBoy> it will look like a share called \\tsclient
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> hddsata6gb:autorun a dualboot?
[13:07] <gehuigert> what do you mean? i should ask my question on pastebin?
[13:07] <wjtaylor> Kernel mod from debian repos won't compile in squeeze
[13:07] <hddsata6gb> look at you firewall linux side will default to a "keep out policeys"
[13:07] <shtrb> SolarisBoy, the problem is that it acts like the lin box doesn't publish it
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> gehuigert:paste etc/fstab into pastebin and output in channel
[13:07] <wjtaylor> http://pastebin.com/q3svjBJj
[13:08] <SolarisBoy> shtrb: i used rdesktop and it has an option for sharing a folder in this manner
[13:08] <hddsata6gb> lotuspsychje,  not what i eant but thats an idea...
[13:08] <SolarisBoy> most of those other programs probably just wrap around it and it's arguments with varying ambiguity on how to use the args
[13:08] <shtrb> I'll check rdesktop
[13:09] <SolarisBoy> yep man page and look for share
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> hddsata6gb: just install xp and install ubuntu next to it after..its not that hard mate
[13:09] <gehuigert> my /etc/fstab: http://pastebin.com/nEGEezRb -- my problem
[13:09] <hddsata6gb> lotuspsychje,  on the linux side just written the pages of code to fix the common problem of  dualbooting..
[13:10] <SolarisBoy> gehuigert: that looks odd
[13:10] <gehuigert> my problem: i wanted to have my UUID blablabla as my /home folder, but since i did that, my desktop and other stuff or corrupted
[13:10] <hddsata6gb> lotuspsychje,  on the xp side it does not show up ... no drive shows..
[13:10] <gehuigert> (i commented the lines out again so i could ask this question lol)
[13:11] <yatta> I know it's not a big deal but can I set type of visualization to nothing in movie player 3.0.1 (I suppose it was)?
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> hddsata6gb:pm me for the windows part
[13:11] <SolarisBoy> gehuigert: what exactly is the issue?
[13:11] <tsimpson> gehuigert:  "/dev/sda3/home" is not correct, it'd just be "/dev/sda3"
[13:11] <mdtanos> is C a good programming language to start off learning programming ?
[13:12] <tsimpson> mdtanos: #ubuntu-offtopic may have an opinion on that
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> mdtanos: try ##programming
[13:12] <SolarisBoy> it actually is
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> I'd say pascal
[13:12] <SolarisBoy> smh
[13:12] <mdtanos> I hear python.. any input ?
[13:12] <mdtanos> heard*
[13:12] <SolarisBoy> ruby
[13:13] <gehuigert> SolarisBoy: my issue: when i use line13 and comment line14, all files in the new partition is root owned in filegroup root
[13:13] <gehuigert> and i cannot change them, so when I'm using apps, they do not have permissions
[13:13] <SolarisBoy> doesn't matter - i say c cause it general / lots of people still actively program and it,, and lost of the logic constructs used are used elsewhere
[13:13] <mdtanos> i see
[13:14] <SolarisBoy> gehuigert: if it's another block device that may be normal - look at man mount options
[13:14] <gehuigert> when i try to change them (sudo chown/chgrp -Rv username *), I get output that the files are changed by owner, but they do not (they remain root owned)
[13:14] <mdtanos> and what is a good start for algorithms/logic in general ?
[13:14] <mdtanos> C as well ?
[13:14] <tsimpson> mdtanos: please keep non support related discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:14] <mdtanos> sorry
[13:14] <wjtaylor> jeezus I need coffee... I'm posting to the wrong channel. Sorry
[13:14] <SolarisBoy> you probably need to _MOUNT_ it as that user rather than permission the folder - if applicable -- what type of File System is it anyway that your mounting with fuse as home?
[13:15] <gehuigert> what do you mean by type of file system? whether it's an internal/external hard drive?
[13:15] <opieng> I have some software that fails at max RAM load in Windows 7, is this problem likely to be avoided in Ubuntu? I think it might be the DEP mode in windows that cause the software to shutdown.
[13:15] <SolarisBoy> is it a ntfs or something?
[13:16] <SolarisBoy> or fat or something else? is what i mean by file system type..
[13:16] <gehuigert> how can i tell? it's probably ntfs but i dont know how to see it on ubuntu
[13:16] <SolarisBoy> you need to know that before you put it in fstab
[13:16] <SolarisBoy> and thats probably the issue as pemissions don't work the same on all FS types..
[13:16] <subz3r0> gehuigert, use gparted and check which filesystem it is.
[13:17] <SolarisBoy> or file -sL....
[13:17] <SolarisBoy> heh
[13:17] <gehuigert> but for gparted i need a live cd, and i'm using xubuntu rather than ubuntu so i'm not sure if that will work
[13:17] <subz3r0> why should gparted not work on xubuntu?
[13:17] <gehuigert> gparted can only be run from a live cd right?
[13:17] <SolarisBoy> no
[13:18] <SolarisBoy> it usually can only operate on disks from a live cd..
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> gehuigert: you can use it to manage USB storages etc
[13:18] <SolarisBoy> but it can open and show you fs types generally -- you can also try the "file" command
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> !ntfs | gehuigert
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> subz3r0: try running:  gksudo gparted
[13:18] <SolarisBoy> it's better to find out what type of FS it is than assume...
[13:19] <subz3r0> ActionParsnip? He needs to know which filesystem hes using... so I told him to use gparted and check it
[13:19] <SolarisBoy> 'sudo file -sL /dev/sda' <--this will work generally just replace the device name..
[13:20] <SolarisBoy> it will print the FS type if it's formatted or say something like data if not or if it's a random fs it has no idea about.. thats all
[13:21] <yatta> I am trying to achieve this --> movie player ubuntu 12.04 type of visualization not selected
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> subz3r0: ah, there inlys the issue :)
[13:21] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: My internet hiccupped a few minutes ago, and I ran "sudo modprobe -r iwl3945; sleep 2; sudo modprobe iwl3945" like you suggested - the first command removed Wireless entirely from my network options, and the last command didn't seem to do anything.
[13:21] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy, and what is when he has more than one parition? ;>
[13:22] <gehuigert> gparted is being installed, do i only need it to check whether my disk is ntfs or not?
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: try restarting the networking service
[13:22] <SolarisBoy> a volume with multiple partitions formatted with different fs?
[13:22] <SolarisBoy> is that normal?
[13:22] <SolarisBoy> other than on a SAN or something =(
[13:22] <subz3r0> im my case, yes it is.
[13:22] <subz3r0> Just asked, that he doesnt ran into nowhere =)
[13:22] <subz3r0> run
[13:22] <SolarisBoy> true i guess
[13:22] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: Well, I've already restarted the computer, which is how I'm talking to you now. How do I restart the networking service?
[13:23] <SolarisBoy> i guess a better statement is - better to know whats on the volume than the FS type then lol
[13:23] <subz3r0> i wont tell you ;)
[13:24] <gehuigert> while installing gparted, i get "W: Waited for dpkg --assert-multi-arch but it wasn't there - dpkgGo (10: No child processes)" (synaptic manager)
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> gehuigert: installing what?
[13:24] <gehuigert> gparted
[13:24] <SolarisBoy> subz3r0: theres always this sudo file -sL /dev/sda* ...lol
[13:24] <SolarisBoy> and also file will tell about the partitions it finds i just confirmed
[13:25] <subz3r0> gehuigert, you can use the command of SolarisBoy too. but you have to select the correct parition number like sda1 or sda2 etc...
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> gehuigert: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[13:26] <gehuigert> ActionParsnip: precise
[13:26] <gehuigert> and subz3r0: /dev/sda3: x86 boot sector, code offset 0x52, OEM-ID "NTFS    ", sectors/cluster 8, reserved sectors 0, Media descriptor 0xf8, heads 255, hidden sectors 502810624, dos < 4.0 BootSector (0x80
[13:26] <subz3r0> gehuigert, ok, so what u want to do exactly? Coze I just joined the channel and didnt read the rest...
[13:27] <SolarisBoy> so its ntfs you should probably mount it with ntfs-3g driver
[13:27] <subz3r0> its ntfs btw..
[13:27] <SolarisBoy> and use the options to mount as your user
[13:27] <tsimpson> don't use NTFS in /home
[13:27] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy, so tell him how to do that :)
[13:27] <tsimpson> you'll have buckets of fail
[13:27] <SolarisBoy> sure i was just getting over to my box where its mounted as such
[13:27] <SolarisBoy> but tsimpson is very right
[13:27] <SolarisBoy> you shouldn't use NTFS as home your perms will be all blown to heck
[13:27] <gehuigert> subz3r0: My /home was automatically installed inside the installation partition, I want my /home on another partition, and my fstab file is here (http://pastebin.com/nEGEezRb), but all these files are root owned
[13:28] <n8w> awk 'END { PRINT NR }' data.csv doesnt print anythin, but wc -l data.csv gives the count...can anyone see whats wrong?
[13:28] <subz3r0> ofc, ntfs isnt made for a linux system, neither for the ~/
[13:28] <SolarisBoy> m8: $NR
[13:28] <SolarisBoy> Number of Rows is a variable to awk so prefix it with $
[13:28] <SolarisBoy> and lower case print..
[13:29] <m8> SolarisB1y, :O
[13:29] <SolarisBoy> gehuigert: with ntfs IF you want to mount it (shouldn't as home) there is a user= option you can pass in the fstab
[13:29] <SolarisBoy> it's not exactly that give me a sec..
[13:29] <n8w> SolarisBoy<-- nope,doesnt make any difference
[13:29] <subz3r0> gehuigert, please be so kind and give us some more information. Like how many paritions do you have on this disk, on which partition is /boot, /home etc...
[13:30] <SolarisBoy> n8w: one sec let me try.. it still looks off actually
[13:30] <gehuigert> SolarisBoy, my disk gets automatically mounted as /host, I should just create a symbolic link ?
[13:30] <SolarisBoy> gehuigert: one second
[13:31] <catphish> how do you install 32-bit development libraries on 64-bit systems?
[13:31] <SolarisBoy> n8w: you said it's csv? are you looking to -F',' first?
[13:31] <gehuigert> subz3r0: I have 3 partitions, 1 for windows vista, then 1 with the installation files and then the last 1 I wanted to have my /home inside
[13:31] <n8w> SolarisBoy<-- in another script i hve got this: numoflines=`awk 'END { print NR }' res.csv` n it works ok
[13:31] <SolarisBoy> news to me then =)
[13:31] <subz3r0> gehuigert, so the complete ubuntu is in partition 2(sda2) and sda3 is free?
[13:32] <n8w> SolarisBoy<-- i have tried -F but nothin
[13:32] <gehuigert> yea
[13:32] <SolarisBoy> n8w: can you pasty the file and command your running?
[13:32] <subz3r0> gehuigert, why not using gparted and tell him increase the space from sda3?
[13:32] <SolarisBoy> and lower case print..
[13:33] <subz3r0> i meant increase sda2 from sda3
[13:33] <SolarisBoy> grr - my mouse is very sensitive sorry it rolled up in history
[13:33] <SolarisBoy> http://linux.die.net/man/8/mount.ntfs-3g gehuigert
[13:34] <gehuigert> subz3ro, because I heard /home should rather be on another partition when you want to install ubuntu again in the future
[13:34] <caddoo> I want to make a folder writable to only the user 'apache'
[13:34] <caddoo> how can I do this
[13:34] <n8w> SolarisBoy<-- awk 'END { PRINT NR }' data.csv --doesnt work.... wc -l data.csv --doesn work
[13:34] <gehuigert> solarisboy whant should i do with this ntfs-3g ?
[13:35] <SolarisBoy> gehuigert: its the driver you would use to mount the drive/partition with properly and you would use the uid/gid= options to set the user and group upon mount
[13:35] <subz3r0> gehuigert, that is true, but you dont have to do it. The best thing would be you would have different paritions for everything. like sda2 for /boot, sda3 for /, sda4 for /home... sda5 for /swap
[13:35] <SolarisBoy> IF you wanted to mount an ntfs-3g as home that is
[13:35] <ThinkT510> catphish: add :i386 on the end
[13:35] <subz3r0> gehuigert, but ofc you can backup your home in your case too
[13:35] <SolarisBoy> n8w: i'd like to see atleast a sample of whats in data csv
[13:36] <n8w> SolarisBoy<-- sure,w8 a sec
[13:36] <SolarisBoy> k
[13:36] <catphish> ThinkT510: thanks, i'm compiling on a T510 as it happens
[13:36] <ThinkT510> catphish: cool
[13:36] <gehuigert> SolarisBoy: so basically I install it and run it once with the correct options and it should be okay at all times in future?
[13:37] <SolarisBoy> something like that gehuigert . it runs via fstab, it's a driver which controls the FS and how the system manipulates the same
[13:37] <subz3r0> gehuigert, yes. next time when u want to install ubuntu, just backup your home before and install ubuntu in different partitions
[13:37] <n8w> SolarisBoy<-- http://pastebin.com/P0aZFqP4
[13:37] <caddoo> How do you make a folder writable for a specific user
[13:37] <SolarisBoy> so you tell fstab to use the driver moving forward and yes it's set and forget
[13:37] <subz3r0> gehuigert, it will be way easiert to backup anything then. but for now you can start over with this
[13:38] <SolarisBoy> caddoo: chown the folder to the user and group and chmod it to u+w i guess?
[13:38] <gehuigert> okay thanks a lot, I'll be trying this
[13:38] <subz3r0> gehuigert, its just less work for now. But ofc you can put your home now into sda3,too. depends on how much work you want to invest
[13:39] <user123132> chown www-data.www-data -R <folder> ,may be, try ls -hal /var/www
[13:39] <subz3r0> i would just increase the space of sda2 from sda3
[13:39] <subz3r0> or merge sda3 to sda2
[13:39] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: How do I restart the networking service?
[13:39] <SolarisBoy> or that too if it's what you need =) im just speaking in reference to why your ntfs mount is root only.
[13:39] <n8w> SolarisBoy<-- ok, from within a script, this works: numoflines=`awk 'END { print NR }' data.csv`
[13:39] <n8w> echo $numoflines
[13:40] <catphish> ThinkT510: any idea why i can't install libssl1.0.0:i386 and libssl1.0.0:amd64 at the same time?
[13:40] <subz3r0> Yerushalmi, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[13:41] <subz3r0> restart/start/stop
[13:41] <Sidewinder1> gehuigert, I haven't been following, but IF you are going to shrink/expand an NTFS partition, make sure that you defragment it prior to any changes.
[13:41] <cfhowlett> catphish: cuz ***i386 is for 32 bit systems and ****64 is for 64 bit systems.
[13:41] <SolarisBoy> n8w: it works in and out for me as well
[13:41] <SolarisBoy> n8w: it's the print vs PRINT
[13:41] <catphish> cfhowlett: i know what they're for, i just don't know why i can't install both at the same time
[13:42] <SolarisBoy> apparently awk just blanks out on PRINT - but if you use the method_ print it works
[13:42] <catphish> oh, i think i need multilib
[13:42] <n8w> SolarisBoy<-- OMG:DDD....ye thats it...haha
[13:43] <n8w> SolarisBoy<-- stupid me,cheers m8
[13:43] <SolarisBoy> lol weird one - i guess awk is way more complicated that i ever cared to know about - i didn't even know prefixing the vars with $ was optional
[13:43] <cfhowlett> catphish: I would expect different dependencies.  Also, they're in entirely different repos, are they not?
[13:43] <SolarisBoy> heh
[13:43] <m8> n8w, :O
[13:44] <catphish> cfhowlett: no, they're both available in the repos on a 64 bit system
[13:46] <ThinkT510> !info ia32-libs-multiarch | catphish
[13:46] <ThinkT510> catphish: i think that might be what you need
[13:46] <pii3> Hi again
[13:47] <pii3> can anyone help me with thos LONG term service Ubuntu
[13:47] <pii3> and padlock sha
[13:47] <pii3> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:47] <pii3> :(
[13:47] <FloodBot1> pii3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:47] <BoozeWooz> hello! i would like to boot from SD card, but after booting completed to be continue from USB2 thumbdrive. is this possible?
[13:47] <catphish> pii3: please learn how to ask for help, people won't help you if you say !!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:47] <pii3> sorry
[13:48] <pii3> is there anyway to solve this problem
[13:48] <catphish> it's ok, just wanted to help you find help
[13:48] <subz3r0> BoozeWooz, so you want to boot from SD-Card and then want to do what with the usb-stick?
[13:48] <pii3> please ?
[13:48] <subz3r0> !details | pii3
[13:49] <pii3> ubottu, im trying to connect to my vpn server using pon
[13:49] <BoozeWooz> mm i have odroid-x. it MUST boot from SD-card theres no other option... but sdcard is slow. I have harddisk trough USB2. so i want like, only the most demanding parts to be loaded from SD. then rest eveything from USB2
[13:49] <jeremy5189> Hello, is there any program that can show the RGB of the current mouse position?
[13:49] <galique> Hi,  I would like to use freecade on ubuntu 11.04, but each time I try to launch freecad I have "freecad: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.15' not found (required by /usr/lib/libCoin.so.60)" However /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 is here! What is the missing .deb package please?
[13:49] <pii3> im trying to connect to my vpn server using pon i set everything for this program but now when i $pon vpn
[13:49] <Wizard> jeremy5189: gcolor2.
[13:49] <pii3> i have
[13:50] <pii3> kernel: [ 2171.523147] padlock: VIA PadLock Hash Engine not detected.
[13:50] <pii3> FATAL: Error inserting padlock_sha (/lib/modules/2.6.32-42-generic/kernel/drivers/crypto/padlock-sha.ko): No such device
[13:50] <Wizard> galique: probably something like libstdc++5
[13:50] <subz3r0> pii3, do you read what others write?
[13:50] <pii3> its not possible for me to reinstall new version of ubuntu i have to fix this one Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS 64-Bit
[13:50] <subz3r0> !paste | pii3
[13:51] <catphish> ia32-libs-multiarch seems to be installing all my libs for i386 which is ideal :)
[13:51] <galique> Wizard: but libstdc++5 is too hold! I have albready libstdc++6
[13:51] <BoozeWooz> hmpf.. anyone help? boot from SD, but rest of OS from usb2??
[13:51] <pii3> subz3r0, what u mean ? but no one answer me :(
[13:51] <pii3> i still have a problem
[13:51] <zykotick9> galique: are you on 64bit OS, trying a 32bit binary?  (use "uname -m" to see your bitness, and "file /path/to/freead_executable" will show if it's a 32bit program)
[13:51] <Wizard> galique: I bet they can co-exist.
[13:52] <pii3> on launchpad there is an entry for this bug but no fix
[13:52] <Wizard> galique: And as far as I know, gcc3.x means stdc++5
[13:52] <subz3r0> pii3, you have to follow the rules... and you have to explain exactly what you did and where the problem is
[13:52] <pii3> i did
[13:52] <pii3> do u read my messages
[13:52] <opieng> I have some software that fails at max RAM load in Windows 7, is this problem likely to be avoided in Ubuntu? I think it might be the DEP mode in windows that cause the software to shutdown.
[13:52] <galique> zykotick9: I am on 64 bit system and I only run 64 bit binary
[13:53] <galique> Wizard: http://pastebin.com/b831G72h
[13:53] <pii3> im on ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS 64-Bit , im trying to connect to my vpn server with $pon, but i cannot ! when i less /var/log/syslog
[13:53] <pii3> i have this FATAL error
[13:53] <galique> gcc3.x mean stdc++6 and it stop at GLIBCXX_3.4.14
[13:53] <pii3> modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting padlock_sha (/lib/modules/2.6.32-42-generic/kernel/drivers/crypto/padlock-sha.ko): No such device
[13:54] <cfhowlett> opieng: you mean running windows programs in wine?  If it fails in native windows, don't see how an emulator is going to improve matters...
[13:54] <pii3> subz3r0, do you need more info ?
[13:54] <opieng> cfhowlett, no in full boot windows 7
[13:54] <subz3r0> pii3, youre talking about different things. first you want to fix this isse, then you want to reinstall a newer version of ubuntu?!
[13:54] <ScKBunny> http://secura.e-sim.org/lan.2341/
[13:54] <ScKBunny> http://secura.e-sim.org/lan.2341/
[13:54] <ScKBunny> http://secura.e-sim.org/lan.2341/
[13:54] <FloodBot1> ScKBunny: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:55] <subz3r0> pii3, and you give one information after the next... why not give all essential informations in one hit?
[13:55] <pii3> subz3r0, some told me cannot fix this problem just need to install latest version
[13:55] <ScKBunny> http://secura.e-sim.org/lan.2341/
[13:55] <cfhowlett> opieng: so how do you hope to run this program in ubuntu?
[13:55] <subz3r0> pii3, so why not upgrading when this issue cant be fixed?
[13:55] <ScKBunny> http://secura.e-sim.org/lan.2341/
[13:55] <DJones> ScKBunny: Stop spamming
[13:55] <pii3> subz3r0, really there is no fix for this , even if this is LTS ?
[13:56] <opieng> cfhowlett, the program can run in Ubuntu
[13:56] <cipherboy> Can somebody point me to an article on bridging? Can't seem to do it correctly today, need to set up link to home network via a desktop with two ethernet cards and another desktop, having both with internet connection in the end.
[13:57] <subz3r0> pii3, why should be there a fix, just because its a LTS? i dont get it. if there's a bug, theres a bug.
[13:57] <opieng> cfhowlett, what happens is this... in windows I run the analysis.... when the analysis hits max RAM capacity it shuts down with Error code 5. This error code has something to do with DEP. Windows thinks something doggy is going on so shuts down the application.
[13:57] <ScKBunny> what's up
[13:57] <galique> Wizard: libstdc++5_3.3.6-25_amd64.deb was albready here
[13:57] <galique> so where can I find GLIBCXX_3.4.15 please?
[13:58] <pii3> u said there is a bug and the only solution is to install newer , i said if it is still under support there should be one solution ?
[13:58] <pii3> no ?
[13:58] <cfhowlett> opieng: over my head.  that said, if it'll run in ubuntu, then run the test and find out if you get better results.
[13:59] <opieng> ok thanks, cfhowlett
[13:59] <cfhowlett> opieng: best of luck
[13:59] <subz3r0> pii3, no i did not say that. you said that, i just repeated it.
[13:59] <pii3> plz help me
[14:00] <subz3r0> pii3, you said its a bug, and there is no fix.
[14:00] <catphish> i'm still not sure i've got my head around the multiarch thing, i've installed ia32-libs-multiarch but there are plenty of libs not present
[14:00] <opieng> thanks, oh, by the way... does anyone have Ubuntu installed via Wubi? Currently have windows on my SSD and wanted to install Ubuntu on my HDD, but not sure if I should go through Wubi or proper install?
[14:00] <subz3r0> opieng, skip wubi...
[14:01] <user123132> how about rmmod padlock_sha, and try again ?
[14:01] <opieng> subz3r0, yes I heard there was some disadvantages to it. But I am worried messing with the windows boot system?
[14:02] <vibhav> How does one get gedit to auto-indent his code?
[14:02] <cfhowlett> opieng: wubi is an ubuntu TESTING environment.  it is NOT a permanent installation solution.  So sayeth the wubi developers.  If you're not sure you want a full fledged ubuntu install, consider virtualbox.  Otherwise, dual boot.
[14:02] <galique> where can I find the package GLIBCXX_3.4.15 for my 64 bits system please?
[14:02] <subz3r0> opieng, just do not let grub overwrite the win bootloader
[14:02] <Monkey> hello everybody! can anyone please help me get rid of this error:  error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[14:02] <cipherboy> Nobody?
[14:02] <Monkey> I am using Ubuntu 12.04
[14:02] <ThinkT510> opieng: avoid wubi
[14:02] <BoozeWooz> bah
[14:03] <opieng> subz3r0, how do I stop the grub overwriting the bootloader?
[14:03] <subz3r0> Monkey, try this: http://mwsite.net/2010/12/23/fix-error-while-loading-shared-libraries-libstdc-libc6-2-2-so-3-cannot-open-shared-object-file-no-such-file-or-directory/
[14:03] <subz3r0> opieng, while the installation you will be asked for where to put grub on
[14:04] <cfhowlett> opieng: even if ubuntu overwrites the windows bootloader, you can repair it with the windows install disk.  (you'll lose the ubuntu boot, of course...)
[14:04] <Monkey> thanks subz3r0. Will try in now.
[14:04] <DJones> cipherboy: I've not done bridging myself, but this link may help you get started http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man5/bridge-utils-interfaces.5.html (for 12.04)
[14:04] <cipherboy> DJones: thanks, will take a look
[14:04] <opieng> subz3r0, where should i put the grub? Is there any realiable guide on this?
[14:05] <cfhowlett> !dualboot|opieng:
[14:05] <subz3r0> opieng, there are hundreds of tutorials out there. just use your favourite search engine and search for ubuntu dualboot windows 7, or similar to this
[14:06] <subz3r0> opieng, also check youtube.com. there are some nice tuts
[14:06] <opieng> brilliant, thanks everyone
[14:08] <GlennS> hey, is this the right place to ask about apt-get packages on Ubuntu?
[14:08] <cfhowlett> GlennS: yes.  ask
[14:09] <Monkey> subz3r0: the link to the package says 404 Not Found.
[14:09] <GlennS> I've been having problems with quite a few of them just not working. In particular: none of solr-jetty, solr-tomcat or tomcat6 appear to actually listen on any ports out of the box.
[14:09] <GlennS> (using Ubuntu server 12.04)
[14:10] <Monkey> subz3r0: Ok found the package. Will install it now.
[14:10] <GlennS> wondering if this indicates something is wrong with my Ubuntu install (fresh install + whatever OVH put on there), or if it's normal for some packages to just not be working correctly?
[14:11] <ThinkT510> GlennS: ovh?
[14:12] <GlennS> yeah, they're my VPS hosting provider
[14:12] <bekks> GlennS: Expected behaviour for the listed daemons. You have to configure them before using them.
[14:12] <GlennS> I see
[14:13] <GlennS> thanks, I shall go and hunt down some docs I figure out what I need to do then
[14:13] <MrBoss> hello someone use headset logitech ?
[14:14] <Monkey> subz3r0: Thanks for your great help sir. It worked. Thanks again.
[14:14] <krababbel> Is there any recent howto for pulseaudio? It can't find any cards. Do you have to add your user to the audio group?
[14:15] <cfhowlett> MrBoss: yeah i do logitech headset
[14:15] <subz3r0> Monkey, you're welcome
[14:16] <BoozeWooz> i need to boot from SD, but rest of OS from usb2?? how i do this?!?
[14:17] <MrBoss> cfhowlett i see g35
[14:17] <Ris1> /msg chanserv help
[14:17] <MrBoss> do you have a problem with use headset Logitech cfhowlett?
[14:17] <datapolitical> anyone in here familar with dropbox and ubuntu server?
[14:18] <datapolitical> i want to install dropbox on my server and use selective sync
[14:18] <subz3r0> BoozeWooz, well. just install ubuntu on the SD, just /boot the rest then on the usb-stick
[14:18] <cfhowlett> MrBoss: mostly none.  for some reason, audacity scrambles the audio during recording, but I'm not sure that's not a 64 bit issue.  Didn't happen when I ran 32 bit ubuntu.
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> datapolitical: I've installed it without X, its a faff but can be done
[14:20] <datapolitical> faff?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> datapolitical: lots of effort
[14:20] <cipherboy> second question, occasionally I boot a computer (nvidia drivers) without a display plugged in. When I open up gnome-control-center to change the display resolution upon plugging in a monitor, it only gives me the minimum display resolution, nothing higher (600 something by 400 something).  How would you go about fixing this other than rebooting?
[14:20] <datapolitical> perhaps you can give me a suggestion
[14:20] <cipherboy> (reason why I don't have a display plugged in is I generally use it as a server)
[14:20] <datapolitical> I'm using Jekyll to blog
[14:21] <datapolitical> and i'm trying to figure out a not insane way to upload posts from an iOS device
[14:21] <datapolitical> which means I have access to dropbox
[14:21] <MrBoss> cfhowlett thanks :D
[14:21] <pheonixman> i am facing a problem with my USB drive. Using Gparted i formated my USB to FAT32, after formatting it Ubuntu 10.10 does not mount it. If i try to mount it manually it mounts but i am not able to create any new folder (in short i loose all permission), i dont know whats happening here, if anyone can help me out
[14:22] <cfhowlett> MrBoss: good luck, have fun
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> datapolitical: sec, i made a bug a bit ago. it shows the procedure.
[14:22] <ThinkT510> pheonixman: 10.10 is no longer supported
[14:22] <cipherboy> datapolitical: what do you gain from jekyll? why not wordpress, joomla, drupal, etc, if you want to do blogging?
[14:23] <datapolitical> a bug?
[14:23] <cipherboy> datapolitical: jailbroken idevice?
[14:23] <datapolitical> no
[14:23] <datapolitical> and i don't need one, if I had a standalone mac it would be easy
[14:23] <datapolitical> if I had a server with lots of capacity it would be easy
[14:23] <MrBoss> cfhowlett what's your headset model?
[14:23] <datapolitical> (just sync the folder in dropbox with my drafts to the _post folder)
[14:23] <datapolitical> simple enough
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> datapolitical: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm/+bug/696302   it will have changed now , but the idea is there
[14:24] <cfhowlett> MrBoss: don't have it with me to look at, sorry.  Purchases in 2011 if that helps
[14:24] <cfhowlett> datapolitical: ubuntuone?
[14:24] <duanyabin> my WxGeometrie  is always   bad  ,i   don`t konw  the reason
[14:24] <datapolitical> ubuntuone?
[14:24] <lolololololololo> how to when lock screen is on log incorrect password(s)?
[14:24] <datapolitical> cypherone static web pages
[14:25] <datapolitical> and posts written in markdown and stored as text files that are rendered into shiny
[14:25] <cipherboy> datapolitical: you said you used it to blog? Quote: I'm using Jekyll to blog
[14:26] <datapolitical> yes
[14:26] <systemd0wn> Question, trying to use alt cd but failing. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/976509 Anyone know a workaround?
[14:27] <cipherboy> datapolitical: Not familiar with Jekyll, but does it take a body of a post and add stuff to the top and bottom similiar to what server side includes would do?
[14:27] <cipherboy> datapolitical: except it generates a static file.
[14:27] <ThinkT510> systemd0wn: are you using the beta 2 cd?
[14:27] <datapolitical> exactly, it's web-server independent
[14:27] <flrns> why are some file extensions (e.g. mp3) not shown by default in nautilus?
[14:28] <systemd0wn> ThinkT510, no. Using the latest as of last night.
[14:28] <datapolitical> so there's no apache config required to make it work
[14:28] <flrns> and how to change that, the settings dialog is pretty small..
[14:28] <datapolitical> it's just serving up rendered HTML
[14:28] <datapolitical> like if i'd built my blog by hand 10 years ago
[14:28] <Monkey> Please help. sudo command is not asking for password. Eg: sudo apt-get update
[14:28] <flrns> monkey: did you enter it before in the same terminal window?
[14:29] <cipherboy> datapolitical: so no online control panel similar to the wordpress to manage these files?
[14:29] <bekks> Monkey: How long ago did you enter the password using sudo? Less than 15 minutes?
[14:29] <cipherboy> Monkey: sudo -k?
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> flrns: file extensions don't mean much
[14:29] <cipherboy> Monkey: `sudo -k` is the command, did you try that?
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> flrns: you can set to show them, most users don't want to see extensions, just like in Windows
[14:29] <flrns> ActionParsnip: well, i want. ;) do you know where i find that setting=
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> flrns: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[14:30] <cipherboy> datapolitical: do you compile it for lack of a better word into a html file on your own system or on the server?
[14:30] <Monkey> Right now I am in root. But I tried sudo while logged in as OtherUser. I tried it several times but it didn't asked for password.
[14:30] <flrns> precise.
[14:33] <Monkey> flrns: When  I tried sudo for the first time, it didn't asked for password. Then I closed the terminal and retried in a new one. Still no password was asked for.
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> flrns: have you looked around in Edit -> Preferences   in nautilus?
[14:33] <flrns> ActionParsnip: yep, cant find it there
[14:33] <unless> Hello guys!
[14:34] <randyz> is this where we get help for mint 13?
[14:34] <Monkey> bekks: I just entered the password at the time of login.
[14:34] <unless> Could someone help me figure out how do I reduce the launcher size at Ubuntu 12.04 please?
[14:34] <ThinkT510> !mint | randyz
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> flrns: try searching dconf for the word nautilus
[14:35] <opieng> why is the 32bit recommend over the 64bit?
[14:35] <ThinkT510> opieng: because it works on both
[14:35] <flrns> ActionParsnip: so i need to install a new programm just to change that setting? Oo
[14:35] <bekks> opieng: Because there is 32bit hardware out there - still.
[14:36] <kingjames> webapps safe to use in precise?
[14:36] <unless> Please?
[14:36] <randyz> sorry i just clicked xchat and it came here. you think it would take you to mint help. sorry again
[14:36] <opieng> sorry I don't understand? what do you mean works on both? I have 64bit hardware, which should I install?
[14:36] <systemd0wn> No one has the alt cd working?
[14:37] <DJones> unless: You shoudl be able to install "myunity" via synaptic/software centre, from memory, that has an option to change the size of the icons in the unity bar
[14:37] <Monkey> cipherboy: sudo -k shows nothing in root session. I think I'll have to switch to OtherUser.
[14:37] <ThinkT510> opieng: 64bit hardware will run 32 and 64bit, 32bit hardware can only run 32
[14:37] <ThinkT510> opieng: if you have 64bit then you may aswell use 64bit
[14:38] <unless> DJones, but if I am not mistaken in there were a option on the System Settings menu to ajust the launcher size at Ubuntu 12.04, no?
[14:38] <opieng> oh ok, I thought it might have something to do with community software support or something?
[14:38] <ThinkT510> Monkey: is this a desktop install?
[14:38] <Monkey> I need to configure my OtherUser account such that it always prompts for password while running sudo command. Please help.
[14:38] <tiziano> era glaciale
[14:39] <compdoc> what package to use to create an iso from a cd?
[14:39] <opieng> Also when installing dual boot with windows (windows installed first), what is the Swap space for? Is this required?
[14:39] <Monkey> ThinkT510: Yes its a desktop install.
[14:39] <DJones> unless: Its not something I used, so I can't say
[14:39] <ThinkT510> Monkey: root login is disabled by default, why are you logged in s root?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> flrns: yes, the application and the init command to start/stop command
[14:40] <py_can> My vsftpd is not working. I can't connect to it externally...
[14:40] <py_can> I'm suspecting my /etc/hosts is configured badly?
[14:40] <flrns> ActionParsnip: :/ too bad. i gotta switch to another distro soon i feel
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> py_can: can you telnet to the socket from another PC? Can clients ping the server
[14:40] <flrns> ActionParsnip: dont want to have to install special tools just to see file extensions..
[14:40] <ThinkT510> opieng: swap is neccessary for hibernation or suspend
[14:41] <py_can> ActionParsnip: I can connect to it internally
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> flrns: why do you need file extensions
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> py_can: so only outside your LAN is the issue?
[14:41] <py_can> ActionParsnip: i have forwarded ports on my router just fine. The vsftpd just responds with an unroutable address for external clients
[14:41] <opieng> ThinkT510, how much should I allocate to it?
[14:41] <ThinkT510> opieng: its often recommended to have a swap partition though not strictly required
[14:41] <py_can> ActionParsnip: correct
[14:41] <Monkey> ThinkT510: I found a tutorial on google about visudo that mentioned that I need to be logged in as root in order to configure in visudo.
[14:41] <ThinkT510> opieng: at least as much as your ram
[14:41] <Monkey> visudo
[14:41] <flrns> ActionParsnip: no real need. but why do you need a graphical file manager? ;)
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> py_can: thought about using sftp instead, it is default enabled with openssh-server and is secure
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> flrns: I don't ;), too slow
[14:42] <opieng> oh.. I have 16GB RAM... so thats 16GB for swap :)
[14:42] <py_can> ActionParsnip: Yes, I am aware. I personally use winscp to connect trough ssh. But my noob friends need to use FTP
[14:42] <flrns> ActionParsnip: hehe. why do you use ubuntu then? :P
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> flrns: could try a different file manager, there is more than nautilus you know
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> flrns: cosits easy and i'm lazy
[14:42] <beboj> after connecting usb mouse my touchpad seems to be not working at all any help???
[14:42] <Monkey> ThinkT510: This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root.
[14:42] <ThinkT510> Monkey: then you listened to a bad tutorial
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> flrns: i actually use a whole bunch of distros
[14:43] <flrns> ActionParsnip:  i see
[14:43] <ThinkT510> Monkey: visudo is something you run as your user (not root)
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> flrns: have you tried pcmanfm?
[14:43] <Monkey> ThinkT510: Any help would be appreciated.
[14:43] <lidar> opieng, you make my 6 gigs of ram feel inadequate
[14:43] <unless> How come the launcher icon size option doesn't appear at my Appearence  menu System Settings?
[14:44] <opieng> lidar, its required for numerical analysis
[14:44] <opieng> lidar, for everything else, its more than required
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> lidar: we manage some medical PCs here with 256Gb RAM..its a beast
[14:44] <sda> hi all, i have a samsung 700z3a. According to powertop 1.97 the "stuff" use more energy is: Audio codec hwC0D3: Intel and  Audio codec hwC0D0: Realtek. I would try to disable both. I know i will not be able to hear anything but maybe i can save some energy. I think the  "Audio codec hwC0D3: Intel" is the audio from HDMI, something I don't use so it can be turn off all the time. Can you help me? thanks!
[14:44] <Monkey> ThinkT510: But when I run visudo, it says: This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root.
[14:45] <Nexmanus> Monkey: "sudo" is run as a user, "visudo" must be run with root priviliges
[14:45] <lidar> wb me
[14:46] <py_can> ActionParsnip: Any idea about my ftp problem?
[14:46] <py_can> ActionParsnip: Server sent passive reply with unroutable address. Using server address instead.
[14:46] <py_can> and then it crashes
[14:46] <py_can> or times out
[14:46] <unless> how come???
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> py_can: try:  ftp -vv user@server    from external, see what happens, also check ftp logs
[14:46] <unless> how come launcher icon size doesn't  appear??
[14:46] <py_can> ActionParsnip: this message "Server sent passive reply with unroutable address. Using server address instead.
[14:46] <py_can> " is when i try it from the internet
[14:46] <systemd0wn> Question, Has anyone used the alternative cd lately?
[14:47] <gordonjcp> systemd0wn: that's not a very good question
[14:47] <gordonjcp> !ask | systemd0wn
[14:47] <cfhowlett> systemd0wn: yes.
[14:48] <Monkey> Nexmanus: My problem is, when I login as OtherUser, the sudo command never prompts for password. I need to configure it so that it asks for password whenever the sudo command is executed.
[14:48] <flrns> ActionParsnip: yeah, another file manager seems to be the best way :)
[14:48] <systemd0wn> cfhowlett, did you have to work around this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/976509
[14:48] <lidar> systemd0wn, i used it a few weeks ago it worked fine
[14:48] <cfhowlett> systemd0wn: didn't encounter that issue
[14:48] <grumpy> Good Morning - For some reason my avi sound when playing movies starting cutting in and out does anyone have any idea how to trouble shoot and fix this issue?
[14:49] <systemd0wn> hrm... Mine fails every time on the "select and install software" portion
[14:49] <cfhowlett> systemd0wn: silly to ask, but you DID hashcheck the iso?
[14:50] <systemd0wn> cfhowlett, No... I should have. I will real quick but that seems unlikely.
[14:50] <lidar> grumpy, what cpu / ram i only ever had that problem on slow computers
[14:51] <grumpy> i7 950 24 gigs of ram
[14:52] <jrib> grumpy: time to upgrade definitely
[14:52] <grumpy> I went a little bit over board on ram when building my computer
[14:52] <lidar> grumpy, yeah wow how do you even get on irc with that!
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> grumpy: its cheap, amy as well max the bord out
[14:53] <tech1> 9TB ram
[14:53] <jrib> grumpy: does it happen with other players?  For example mplayer and vlc
[14:53]  * cfhowlett Sweet MERCY what the heck does one do with 9TB of RAM?
[14:53] <grumpy> it happens with vlc, mplayer and totem
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> grumpy: try different output methods in vlc
[14:54] <lidar> grumpy, all file types or only a certain one ?
[14:54] <grumpy> all other formats play well
[14:54] <jrib> grumpy: also, you should rule out the file itself
[14:54] <systemd0wn> cfhowlett, ya the hash is fine.
[14:55] <cfhowlett> systemd0wn: roger that.
[14:56] <systemd0wn> Well If I can't get the alt cd to work is there a way to do full disk encryption from the reg desktop cd?
[14:56] <gordonjcp> grumpy: 24G of RAM?
[14:56] <gordonjcp> grumpy: that's nearly enough to play minecraft!
[14:56] <lidar> systemd0wn, why are you using a beta iso ?
[14:56] <systemd0wn> lidar, I'm not.
[14:56] <flrns> ActionParsnip: i think i tried pacmanfm once.. not sure
[14:56] <grumpy> let  me check if it plays in my virtual machine I'll test it in both ubuntu and windows
[14:56] <systemd0wn> I'm using 12.04.1 alt amd64
[14:56] <flrns> ActionParsnip: will have a look
[14:57] <lidar> the pastebin you posted linked to a beta iso
[14:58] <lidar> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04.1-alternate-amd64.iso should be the one your using
[14:58] <lidar> i meant the launchpad bug
[14:58] <systemd0wn> lidar, the bug was found on the beta2 and hasn't been fixed.
[14:58] <systemd0wn> lidar, yes, that is the one I'm using.
[14:59] <ThinkT510> lidar: lower down in the bug report someone is having the same problem with 12.04.1
[14:59] <subz3r0> systemd0wn, what is not working?
[14:59] <Walther> Powertop shows a discharge rate of 22W on my laptop, which is just silly. I already put all tunables on.
[15:00] <systemd0wn> subz3r0, installing the 12.04.1-alt-amd64. Failes on "Select and install software"
[15:00] <Walther> Are there any ways to further improve power consumption / are devs going ot work on this?
[15:00] <Walther> I used to get >4h battery life on this laptop
[15:00] <Walther> now I can manage 2:30
[15:00] <subz3r0> systemd0wn, did you make a integrity check? md5sum bla.iso?
[15:00] <unless> Hello folks!
[15:00] <systemd0wn> did check md5. it's good.
[15:00] <Walther> Powertop also reports usage 100% for Audio codec: Nvidia and Audio codec: Realtek
[15:01] <systemd0wn> subz3r0, syslog shows "xserver-xorg-video-radeon" is not installable