[00:29] <wgrant> rbasak: 10-15 minutes
[07:50] <Fudge> wgrant:  g'day how r things
[12:37] <RikMills> PPA build finished 3hrs ago, but still not published. is the publisher just very backlogged, or poorly again?
[12:48] <wgrant> RikMills: fixed
[12:49] <RikMills> ty
[15:37] <RikMills> is the PPA publisher catching up very very slowly, or still broken?
[16:17] <pgnd> I've been trying to get logged-in to launchpad to join/use a ML for a couple of days with no luck.
[16:17] <pgnd> Finally just deleted the account, and created a new one.
[16:17] <pgnd> NOW, after verifying the address, on attempt to login =>  "Oops!
[16:17] <pgnd>  Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad.
[16:17] <pgnd>  We’ve recorded what happened, and we’ll fix it as soon as possible. Apologies for the inconvenience.
[16:17] <pgnd>  (Error ID: OOPS-5fc7803d8796110c77c2e18d6996bfee)"
[16:17] <pgnd> Can ML's be joined old-school, via a subscribe mailto?


[00:04] <CIA-7> localechooser: cjwatson * r163 ubuntu/ (38 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 2.37
[00:07] <CIA-7> localechooser: cjwatson * r164 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.37ubuntu1
[00:08] <ScottK> cjwatson: Is supporting full disk encryption installs something that's planned/reasonable for the live CD to do?  In this cycle I'm investigating what it would take to get rid of the Kubuntu alternate and that's one case that's come up that's useful to people.
[00:12] <CIA-7> partman-auto-lvm: cjwatson * r242 ubuntu/debian/ (32 files in 2 dirs): merge from Debian 40
[00:12] <cjwatson> ScottK: reasonable though non-trivial.  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-ubiquity-lvm-luks
[00:13] <ScottK> cjwatson: Thanks.
[00:13] <cjwatson> ev and mpt have been working on a design for a new ubiquity advanced partitioner too, which I think is supposed to cover this, but I don't have a link to hand
[00:15] <CIA-7> partman-auto-lvm: cjwatson * r243 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 40ubuntu1
[00:15] <ScottK> Thanks.
[00:16] <ScottK> With Riddell on rotation this cycle if we can drop the alternate installer it'd be a huge help for getting ISO testing done.
[00:17] <CIA-7> partman-efi: cjwatson * r659 ubuntu/debian/ (31 files in 2 dirs): merge from Debian 24
[00:18] <CIA-7> partman-efi: cjwatson * r660 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 24ubuntu1
[08:46] <CIA-7> partman-btrfs: cjwatson * r58 ubuntu/debian/ (31 files in 2 dirs): merge from Debian 6
[08:48] <CIA-7> partman-btrfs: cjwatson * r59 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 6ubuntu1
[13:21] <CIA-7> preseed: cjwatson * r936 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog network-preseed.templates):
[13:21] <CIA-7> preseed: In autoserver mode, fetch the preseed file for oneiric instead for
[13:21] <CIA-7> preseed: wheezy. LP: #681396
[13:22] <CIA-7> preseed: cjwatson * r937 ubuntu/debian/control: set Maintainer and Vcs-Bzr for Ubuntu
[13:25] <CIA-7> preseed: cjwatson * r938 ubuntu/debian/changelog: UNRELEASED
[13:26] <CIA-7> preseed: cjwatson * r939 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog preseed_aliases):
[13:26] <CIA-7> preseed: Change the "keymap" alias to keyboard-configuration/layoutcode, since
[13:26] <CIA-7> preseed: Ubuntu uses console-setup (LP: #74829).
[13:28] <CIA-7> preseed: cjwatson * r940 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.49ubuntu1
[13:43] <CIA-7> rootskel-gtk: cjwatson * r131 ubuntu/ (14 files in 6 dirs):
[13:43] <CIA-7> rootskel-gtk: * Merge from debian unstable. (LP: #776698) Remaining changes:
[13:43] <CIA-7> rootskel-gtk:  - Add Ubuntu logo.
[13:44] <CIA-7> rootskel-gtk: cjwatson * r132 ubuntu/debian/control: set Maintainer to ubuntu-installer


[00:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3217 Generating diffs
[00:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3217 Pending binary packages
[00:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3217 Successfully built
[04:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3206 Preparing packages
[05:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3206 Pending binary packages
[06:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Trevinho, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3206 Successfully built
[07:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3218 Preparing packages
[08:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3218 Successfully built
[09:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- xnox, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3217 Needs rebuild due to higher version at destination (bionic/nodejs). Release pocket (bionic/libnet-ssleay-perl, bionic/python2.7, bionic/python3.6, bionic/python3.7, bionic/ruby-openssl, bionic/ruby2.5). Successfully built (bionic/openssl)
[09:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3218 Publishing packages
[09:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- Mirv, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3218 Proposed pocket


[15:58] <goddard> i want to help fix this bug for myself and others.  Would it be useful to get a dump from the driver using qemu vm running windows?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/2011385
[15:58] -ubottu:#ubuntu-kernel- Launchpad bug 2011385 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "[950XED, Realtek ALC298, Speaker, Internal] No sound at all" [Undecided, Confirmed]


 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2018-February/001245.html
[00:50] <tsimonq2> Mirv, mitya57 ^^^
 Harumph, it seems that qtx11extras didn't use the ubuntu+1 branch during the last transition....
 I can import it now.
[00:54] <valorie> "<tsimonq2> Harumph" -- are you becoming a grandpa or something, tsimonq2?
[00:54] <valorie> lol
[00:54] <tsimonq2> hahahaha
 So, so far we have the following packages in the Bileto PPA: qt3d, qtbase, qtcharts, qtdeclarative, qtimageformats, qtlocation, qtmultimedia, qtscript, qtsensors, qttools, qtwebchannel, qtwebkit, qtxmlpatterns
 I just uploaded qtx11extras.
[01:07] <tsimonq2> Alright, here are my notes on it: https://pad.ubuntu.com/BhiLYwz07Y
[01:07] <tsimonq2> The goal is to get this done before Feature Freeze if possible.
[01:08] <tsimonq2> (That's Thursday.)
[01:08] <tsimonq2> I'll knock stuff off of that list one by one, shouldn't be too hard.
 Huh, this is taking a lot less time than I thought it would.
 I guess the waiting comes in from seeing how much Britney complains, right?
 @acheronuk: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/3113/+sourcepub/8817029/+listing-archive-extra
 I didn't forget. 😉
 Alright, so I think the whole transition is done minus QtWebEngine and QtWebView
 QtWebEngine is building locally now but we all know how long that takes... heh
[04:23] <tsimonq2> Tonight I'll start the Britney checks in Bileto so it has time to process while I'm asleep.
[04:23] <tsimonq2> Otherwise like I said, those two packages are all that's left.
[04:24] <tsimonq2> I uploaded sddm as well because building it against the new Qt is a good idea.
[04:24] <tsimonq2> -queuebot:#ubuntu-ci-eng- tsimonq2, https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3113 Generating diffs
[04:26] <valorie> tsimonq2: the newest sddm?
[04:27] <tsimonq2> valorie: Yes.
[04:28] <tsimonq2> 0.17.0
[04:28] <valorie> \o/
[04:30] <tsimonq2> Gah, so it looks like I do need to wait for QtWebEngine and QtWebView to start Britney...
[04:30] <tsimonq2> It won't let me do the lander signoff until those are complete.
[04:30] <tsimonq2> Oh well, I guess I can do the signoff in the morning.
 I just realized when looking at gammaray that we're two minor versions (semver) behind.
 What I'll do is package that new upstream version and try that, then since I'm in the Debian team I'll talk to the people there... but I'd much rather try my hand at packaging a new version then dealing with an old version and trying to fix things :)
[05:16] <valorie> I'm all for new stuff!
[05:16] <tsimonq2> :D
 Yeah no, I didn't get to finish
 I'll finish tomorrow afternoon
 (well, today!)
 Time for bed o/
[07:11] <valorie> sweet dreams
[07:24] <Mirv> tsimonq2: \o/ I hope the application process goes well! they (try to) have tough questions :)
[07:25] <tsimonq2> Mirv: Thank you!
[23:42] <tsimonq2> QtWebEngine has been uploaded to the PPA.
[23:43] <tsimonq2> I'll get QtWebView out of the way, then everything will be waiting on QtWebEngine with the exception of gammaray which is my next task.


[08:32] <darkxst> eliasps,
[08:32] <darkxst> eliasps, what about javascript?
[08:34] <eliasps> darkxst it is resolved now, top icons extension doesn't scare icons correctly in gnome-shell 3.18 with a custom theme. I wanted to tweak the code so it would, I couldn't figure out how, so I played with numbers to fix it and I did. :)
[08:34] <eliasps> scale* not scare
[08:35] <darkxst> does your theme change the size of the top bar? that would cause issues
[08:35] <eliasps> Yes, it does.
[08:36] <darkxst> thats not really supported in gnome-shell
[08:36] <eliasps> I just changed this let iconSize = Panel.PANEL_ICON_SIZE * scaleFactor to this let iconSize = Panel.PANEL_ICON_SIZE * scaleFactor*4/3
[08:37] <eliasps> now they are displayed fine.
[08:37] <darkxst> I meant gnome-shell won't pick up on size changes automatically
[08:39] <eliasps> When I change the panel's size, every icon on it (from the menus, the other extensions, the one of the focused window) is scaled correctly, except that one of the top-icons extension. Anyway, it's ok now.
[08:39] <eliasps> On another matter, should I create a debdiff between vinagre from debian and the one I built (copied) to send you?
[08:42] <eliasps> I also built gnome-characters from scratch. It's not in debian nor Ubuntu. But I'm sure there are many unnecessary files in debian/ by comparing it to other gnome packages, so I won't send it. I need to get familiar with those.
[08:52] <darkxst> eliasps, re vinagre, yes just take the debian source add a "copied from debian" changelog, and send me the debdiff
[08:52] <darkxst> eliasps, how did you generate the debian/ folder for gnome-characters?
[08:53] <eliasps> bzr dh-make
[08:54] <eliasps> I changed the watch file for the upstream source, the copyright in debian and the control for the dependencies, added links and all. Don;t know what to do more.
[08:57] <darkxst> eliasps, take a look at packaging for the other gjs apps, gnome-weather, gnome-maps etc
[08:57] <darkxst> the end result should be similar to those
[09:01] <eliasps> darkxst, http://pastebin.com/g22XPeVF also added my name because the other's were doing it. Is it ok?
[09:01] <eliasps> Ok on gnome-characters, I'll prepare it and send it to you.
[09:03] <eliasps> When you have the time, can you explain to me what one should do if patches can't apply. On many packages, when running quilt push -a (or -f) I get many hunk failures.
[09:03] <eliasps> Is it because the code changed in the new version and the patch is for the old one?
[09:03] <darkxst> eliasps, no, make a new changelog entry above the debian one
[09:04] <eliasps> Ok.
[09:04] <darkxst> eliasps, usually its upstream code changes, you need manually apply the failed hunks after running quilt push -f
[09:04] <darkxst> when youa re done then quilt refresh
[09:05] <eliasps> I see, I will do that! It happens in the majority of packages.
[09:05] <darkxst> usually they are pretty simple to fix, just code changes that confuse diff/patch and friends
[09:10] <eliasps> I'll give it a shot.
[09:11] <eliasps> vinagre's version should be 3.18.0-1~wily0 right?
[09:11] <eliasps> without the 1ubuntu1
[09:14] <eliasps> darkxst here: http://pastebin.com/prbz3MSX I hope it's right this time.
[09:16] <darkxst> eliasps, yes thats good
[09:16] <eliasps> I'll upload gnome-characters on a personal PPA of mine once I'm done with it and send you a link to take a look and check what needs to be done to make it into staging.
[09:19] <darkxst> ok
[09:19] <eliasps> Thanks for all the mentoring!
[09:20] <darkxst> gnome-builder could use packaging also!
[09:21] <eliasps> I tried that too, if (and that's a big if) I didn't make anything wrong, some dependencies are unmet. One or two -dev libs versions.
[09:21] <darkxst> which libs?
[09:21] <eliasps> But I'll try it again.
[09:21] <eliasps> Wait, I need to check
[09:25] <eliasps> libpeas-dev (1.12.1-2ubuntu1) is one of them, that version is from the official archive. It needs 1.14 or higher.
[09:26] <darkxst> eliasps, I uploaded libpeas yesterday, thats at 1.16 noww
[09:26] <eliasps> Great!
[09:26] <darkxst> if there are other gnome libs that need updating, update them
[09:26] <darkxst> but if its clang/llvm type stuff run in the opposite direction
[09:27] <eliasps> libgtksourceview-3.0-dev > 3.17.7
[09:27] <darkxst> eliasps, is at 3.18.0-1~wily0
[09:27] <darkxst> http://phillw.net/ubuntu-gnome/wily318.html
[09:28] <eliasps> wait, I'll try to install it on my pc again
[09:30] <eliasps> upgrading...
[09:30] <eliasps> OK, same on that one. I'll upload it into a personal PPA and sent the link. I'll check on the dependencies and I'll let you know!
[09:32] <darkxst> eliasps, If I am not around ricotz can review for you
[09:33] <eliasps> Ok! :)
[09:39] <darkxst> eliasps, vinagre uploaded
[09:41] <eliasps> Great!
[09:41] <eliasps> darkxst this is what I'm getting on gnome-builder:
[09:41] <eliasps> Requested 'libgit2-glib-1.0 >= 0.23.4' but version of libgit2-glib is 0.22.8
[09:41] <eliasps> No package 'libpeas-1.0' found
[09:42] <darkxst> libpeas missing a builddep?
[09:42] <darkxst> libgit2 needs an update
[09:43] <eliasps> This is install from the repo: libpeas-1.0-0                                 1.16.0-1~wily1
[09:46] <darkxst> eliasps, you need a builddep on libpeas-dev to get the .pc files
[09:46] <eliasps> Maybe it's this that should get updated instead? libpeas-dev
[09:46] <darkxst> i'll sync libgit2 to ppa in a moment
[09:47] <darkxst> eliasps, yes build-dep on libpeas-dev, the actual libpeas-1.0-0 dep gets generated automatically then
[09:53] <eliasps> Yes, the only one now is libgit2.
[09:53] <darkxst> eliasps, that is coming
[09:54] <eliasps> So when the time to fill the debian/control build-deps, I'll skip libpeas-1.0-0 and put libpeas-dev directly, right?
[09:54] <mgedmin> NB: libgit2 and libgit2-glib are different libraries, IIRC
[09:54] <mgedmin> (one wraps the other)
[09:57] <darkxst> mgedmin, yes you are correct!
[09:57] <darkxst> eliasps, yes
[09:58] <darkxst> waiting for libgit2 to build, so can sync libgit2-glib
[10:10] <Inoki> darkxst did you get Alfredo's email yesterday? About the brand.
[10:10] <Inoki> And hi guys
[10:11] <darkxst> Inoki, hi and yes
[10:11] <darkxst> just replied before
[10:11] <eliasps> hi
[10:13] <Inoki> kk, glad we got a positive response. That's all I wanted. Oh, btw, if I want to make suggestions on what could be included in future releases, where can I do that.
[10:13] <darkxst> Inoki, what suggestions?
[10:13] <darkxst> generally file a bug
[10:14] <darkxst> then raise it on the mailing list
[10:14] <Inoki> It's basically just one suggestion: to provide a complete gnome experience, with ALL gnome apps included by default, like Polari, gnome-clocks and the rest. Currently I have to install all that manually and if we are to provide a pure gnome experience, that would be the way to go. We could provide those instead of alternatives.
[10:15] <darkxst> we don't seed an irc client at all?
[10:15] <Inoki> Polari isn't installed by default.
[10:15] <darkxst> other apps we have been seeding as they mature
[10:16] <darkxst> Inoki, I meant there is no IRC app at all, on our images
[10:16] <darkxst> Inoki, file 1 bug per app
[10:16] <Inoki> There could be, Polari is a nice gnome app.
[10:16] <eliasps> There is also that gnome-xchat thing for IRC (not default), in my opinion easier to use than polari.
[10:16] <darkxst> that you would like to see seeded
[10:16] <darkxst> I don't like gnome-xchat
[10:17] <darkxst> but xchat itself doesnt exactly integrate well
[10:17] <Inoki> darkxst: wouldn't it be easier to file a general bug against ubuntu-gnome-desktop^ with all apps to be included?
[10:17] <Inoki> 1 bug per app = many redundant bugs
[10:18] <Inoki> Currently I use Pidgin (manually installed)
[10:18] <Inoki> Also, one general bug/suggestion would be easier for others to follow.
[10:19] <Inoki> So yea, the goal is to provide a pure gnome experience and that doesn't go w/o core gnome apps.
[10:19] <darkxst> Inoki, pidgin used to be seeded, but was dropped for some reason
[10:19] <darkxst> Inoki, do it in one bug if you want, but do check what fedora and debian are doing
[10:20] <Inoki> I'll do that once on my own laptop, so I can properly test everything.
[10:20] <darkxst> I think we already seed more gnome apps than fedora does
[10:21] <Inoki> do we have dedicated ppl for apps like Empathy? To iron out stuff...
[10:22] <darkxst> Inoki, ubuntu-desktop team
[10:22] <Inoki> kk, I'll have a look.
[10:22] <Inoki> Gotta run now, ttyl
[10:23] <darkxst> I'm a member of that team, but probably the only community member, everyone else are Canonical employees
[10:24] <Inoki> They could change that and employ you no? That's what I would do. In any case, one last thing before I go: if I need to file a bug against the tray not showing items properly, which package?
[10:29] <darkxst> eliasps, libgit2-glib is publishing now, should be good to go in 10mins or so
[10:30] <eliasps> darkxst good, once it's done I'll install gnome-builder and build it for wily.
[10:42] <eliasps> I have to be afk for 15'. I'll build gnome-builder when I get back
[10:50] <eliasps> darkxst it got installed
[10:50] <eliasps> and seems like a great app to be building stuff too!
[10:51] <darkxst> eliasps, ok
[10:52]  * darkxst off for the night
[10:53] <eliasps> Bye!
[10:56] <darkxst> eliasps, and away for the weekend, back monda
[10:56] <darkxst> monday
[10:56] <eliasps> Have fun! I'll check with other members of the gnome3-team for the packages.
[10:57] <darkxst> eliasps, try ricotz for new packages, Noskcaj for updates
[10:57] <eliasps> Ok, thanks!
[11:02] <ricotz> hi
[11:02] <ricotz> darkxst, somethings seems off with the libgit2 package
[11:03] <darkxst> ricotz, what?
[11:03] <ricotz> the hard dep on libcurl4-openssl-dev
[11:03] <ricotz> i think this should be "libcurl4-openssl-dev | libcurl4-dev"
[11:04] <ricotz> otherwise it is not installable
[11:05] <ricotz> it should use libcurl4-gnutls-dev even
[11:10] <darkxst> ricotz, how did libgit2-glib build if its uninstallable
[11:10] <ricotz> darkxst, think about other packages/deps like liboauth-dev
[11:15] <darkxst> ricotz, oh I see]
[11:19] <darkxst> ricotz, will push fix, then sleep
[11:20] <ricotz> darkxst, thanks!
[11:24] <darkxst> ricotz, done, I'll be back monday or so
[11:24] <ricotz> darkxst, have fun! :)
[11:25] <ricotz> darkxst, hmm, I am going to fix it later
[11:25] <darkxst> shall do, big weekend of live music, a b;day party and mtb'ing
[11:25] <ricotz> you already at sleep ;)
[11:26] <ricotz> (I am you didnt fix it)
[11:26] <ricotz> (I mean you didnt fix it)
[11:30] <darkxst> ricotz, apparently I really should just sleep, night
[11:55] <ricotz> darkxst, done
[13:03] <eliasps> ricotz are you there?
[13:31] <LinDol> hi all
[13:52] <Daniyal> Excuse me, While Gnome and Ubuntu are most popular, why Ubuntu-Gnome have 54 ranking in distrowatch?
[13:53] <mgedmin>  because nobody cares about distrowatch? ;)
[13:54] <Daniyal> Nice!
[13:55] <LinDol> haha :)
[14:02] <Daniyal> Can I download kernels from this link? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[14:06] <ricotz> eliasps, kind of
[14:08] <eliasps> ricotz I just have some question on building a package. I should use dh_make after I create the makefile. Should I change anything in there?
[14:09] <ricotz> eliasps, with "makefile" you mean debian/rules?
[14:10] <eliasps> ricotz yes, and the original one. I suppose I shouldn't touch anything outside of debian/
[14:10] <ricotz> yes, do not have to touch anything outside of debian if upstream is fine
[14:11] <ricotz> you should better read some debian packaging guides
[14:11] <eliasps> so I just generate the debian/ and then edit the necessary files in there.
[14:11] <eliasps> I have.
[14:11] <eliasps> and after that I build
[14:11] <ricotz> yes
[14:12] <ricotz> using "dpkg-buildpackage" or "debuild"
[14:12] <eliasps> What about all those *.ex files in debian/? Mind that the package is meant for gnome3-staging
[14:13] <eliasps> Are there any guidelines on those?
[14:13] <ricotz> "*.ex" files?
[14:13] <eliasps> when running dh_make, which generates debian/
[14:14] <ricotz> what is the source you are working on?
[14:14] <eliasps> gnome-builder
[14:14] <eliasps> it creates a bunch of files <name>.ex for instance gnome-builder.cron.d.ex
[14:14] <eliasps> init.d.ex
[14:15] <ricotz> eliasps, you can get rid of them
[14:15] <eliasps> Ok, thank you.
[14:16] <ricotz> copyright, rules, control, changelog are a basic essiential ones
[14:16] <eliasps> do i have to edit the rules?
[14:16] <ricotz> if there are shared libraries you need to handle them and create separate binaries
[14:16] <ricotz> of course you need to edit rules
[14:17] <eliasps> I have already edited the changelog, control and copyright. I'm a bit confused on that one.
[14:17] <eliasps> Anyway, I'll search it more.
[14:17] <eliasps> Thank you for your help!
[14:17] <ricotz> did you check if there is nobody else working on gnome-builder?
[14:18] <ricotz> eliasps, better look at existing packages
[14:18] <eliasps> Only with darkxst. We were discussing about it earlier and I told him I'll give it a shot.
[14:18] <eliasps> All dependencies are met.
[14:18] <ricotz> like anjuta or devhelp
[14:18] <ricotz> ah ok, this is what libgit2 updates were for?
[14:19] <eliasps> I have updated 4 so far, I'm working on others too. But I thought I give it a shot about building from scratch since I haven't done it.
[14:19] <eliasps> Yes.
[14:19] <ricotz> ok
[14:20] <eliasps> He just told me to ask you regarding new packages. Thank you!
[14:29] <lindol> hi again :)
[14:32] <ricotz> eliasps, make sure to use a version scheme like "*-0ubuntu1~wily0"
[14:33] <eliasps> should I also put -0ubuntu1 on it? Since it's not in the Ubuntu archives.
[14:33] <ricotz> since if the package is new or the version is higher than what is in debian this is what should be used
[14:33] <eliasps> It's not in debian either. Ok,I'll use that.
[14:33] <ricotz> that is what i asked for
[14:34] <eliasps> Yes, I'm just doublechecking
[14:34] <ricotz> eliasps, you can build things locally with e.g. pbuilder-dist
[14:34] <ricotz> "pbuilder-dist wily create"
[14:35] <ricotz> pbuilder-dist wily build gnome-*.dsc
[14:35] <eliasps> I use sbuild, every build I've done says it's successful.
[14:36] <ricotz> ok
[14:36] <ricotz> bbl
[15:45] <ricotz> eliasps, gnome-builder is already in debain
[15:45] <ricotz> debian
[15:46] <ricotz> https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/gnome-builder_3.16.3-1.html
[15:49] <eliasps> ricotz thanks, I was using this to track packages: http://phillw.net/ubuntu-gnome/wily318.html
[15:49] <ricotz> eliasps, it is stuck in debian's new queue
[15:50] <eliasps> I'll update it from that then.
[15:53]  * ricotz syncs 3.16.3-1 from debian
[15:54] <ricotz> eliasps, which packages are you working on?
[15:55] <eliasps> cheese, evince, gnome-boxes, gnome-calculator and gnome-characters..
[15:56] <ricotz> https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/gnome-characters_3.16.2-1.html
[15:57] <eliasps> Thank you
[15:58] <eliasps> I see todo is there too. So no actual initial builds required.
[15:58]  * ricotz pushed gnome-characters 3.16.2-1
[16:19] <eliasps> bbl
[21:39] <pad5757> hi


[04:13] <Mirv> shadeslayer: not sure, the only benefit would be not having Qt5 libraries on a system so it's not a very big win. the Qt5 compiled Creator can be used to develop for both Qt4 & Qt5, but the Qt4 compiled version can only be fully used for Qt4. so it could also create a false impression that one needs qtcreator-qt4 for Qt4 development.
[04:15] <ScottK> Mirv: I think the majority of users will not care about Qt5 yet.  It's a lot to add a whole new Qt.
[04:24] <Mirv> well yes, depending on the perspective it may feel a lot extra to download as well
[04:37] <ScottK> There ought to be a way to only require the Qt you want.
[10:43] <dholbach> hiya
[10:44] <dholbach> does anyone have an idea about bug 1131636?
[10:44] <Riddell> hi dholbach
[10:44] <dholbach> hey Riddell
[10:44] <dholbach> I'm asking because bug 1155327 (which is in the sponsoring queue) has a workaround for it - not sure how to go about this
[10:45] <Riddell> presumably a bit of binary incompatibility that slipped through somehow
[10:46] <Riddell> dholbach: you said there was a fix somewhere?
[10:46] <Riddell> that package is quite messy, there's not even any .symbols files :(
[10:47] <dholbach> Riddell, no, it was a workaround for the skype package
[11:04] <apachelogger> Riddell: yes
[11:04] <Riddell> apachelogger: yes which?
[11:05] <apachelogger> yes libs needs patching to pick up patched-l10n
[11:06] <Riddell> okay dokay
[11:06] <dholbach> Riddell, so is the workaround something you'd upload? or does skype need to make a new release? or will qtwebkit need a symbol file?
[11:07] <Riddell> dholbach: maybe all three, I need to look into it more
[11:07] <dholbach> ok, thanks
[11:24] <BluesKaj> "Morning all
[11:40] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[12:34] <Riddell> ooh new kscreen released
[12:34] <Riddell> !newversion kscreen 0.1-rc1
[12:34] <Riddell> kubotu: newversion kscreen 0.1-rc1
[12:35] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1163288
[12:57] <Riddell> hi skaet
[12:57] <skaet> hiya RIddell.  :)
[13:06] <Riddell> hi smartboyhw
[13:06] <smartboyhw> Hi I'm back from Hangzhou!
[13:06] <Riddell> what did you see there?
[13:06] <jussi> bah
[13:06] <jussi> silly machine always running out of space on /boot
[13:07] <smartboyhw> Riddell: Lake view of Xihu:)
[13:07] <Riddell> jussi: you keep a separate partition?
[13:07] <jussi> I wish there was a nicer way of dealing with /boot is full than dpkg just failing...
[13:07] <jussi> Riddell: I guess so - I have an encrypted system with the defaults...
[13:08] <Riddell> ln -s /usr/boot /boot
[13:08] <Riddell> (don't, might mess up grub)
[13:08] <jussi> heh
[13:08] <jussi> careful what you say :D
[13:36] <murthy> hello everyone
[13:36] <Riddell> hi murthy
[13:52] <murthy> yofel: pm?
[14:04] <Riddell> hmm, pykde seems broken
[14:04] <Riddell> rdieter: it is compiling over at fedora?
[14:05] <rdieter> Riddell: I had to revert a #$#$?@# commit to make it work with python3 (and non-default sip dir)
[14:05] <rdieter> more silly "for install into user-prefix, instead of the right place" nonsense. :-/
[14:06] <rdieter> Riddell: see https://reviewboard.kde.org/r/101903
[14:06] <Riddell> rdieter: hmm I'm getting a compile failure on qsyntaxhighlighter.h http://paste.kde.org/714332/
[14:07] <rdieter> oh, that I didn't see
[14:46] <Riddell> phew kde-workspace is a beast
[14:49] <smartboyhw> lol
[14:50] <Riddell> smartboyhw: plenty of 4.10.2 or kscreen packaging to be fun if you're at a lose end :)
[14:50] <smartboyhw> I'm not at my computer
[14:50] <smartboyhw> So no
[14:51] <Riddell> you must have a psychic connection to the internet :)
[14:51] <smartboyhw> LOL
[14:51] <smartboyhw> Home wifi
[14:51] <smartboyhw> I use home wifi for both notebook and phone
[14:58] <murthy> i have logged inside the pbuilder, how can i find the architecture?
[14:59] <smartboyhw> murthy; You did specify the arch when setting up pbuilder-dist right?
[15:00] <Riddell> ldd /bin/ls  will let you know if it's 32 or 64 bit
[15:00] <murthy> smartboyhw: ya i did, just want to confirm that
[15:01] <murthy> Riddell: is shows x86_64, i need to arm
[15:01] <smartboyhw> arch ?
[15:02] <murthy> i ran this "sudo DIST=raring ARCH=arm pbuilder --create
[15:02] <murthy> "
[15:03] <Riddell> murthy: umm an arm chroot won't work on a PC
[15:03] <Riddell> "arm" isn't an arch, "armhf" is
[15:03] <Riddell> murthy: scottk has some arm machines available for use, but it might be restricted to ubuntu members only
[15:04] <murthy> Riddell: so how can i build a package for arm arch using pbuilder?
[15:04] <smartboyhw> murthy: Get Kubuntu membership;)
[15:04] <Riddell> murthy: you can't on your PC
[15:04] <murthy> Riddell: can you reassign nootka patch work to someone else?
[15:05] <smartboyhw> murthy even I can:-P
[15:05] <murthy> smartboyhw: soon :)
[15:05] <smartboyhw> Yay;)
[15:06] <smartboyhw> murthy: Do kscreen 1.0~rc1 upgrade packaging theb:)
[15:06] <smartboyhw> s/theb/then/
[15:06] <kubotu> smartboyhw meant: "murthy: Do kscreen 1.0~rc1 upgrade packaging then:)"
[15:06] <murthy> smartboyhw: I completed the copyright of nootka and then ended in a small bug, which i can fix in time, but can't test it, it is leaving me blind
[15:07] <smartboyhw> Riddell: Don't you have an ARM machine? I thought you did.
[15:08] <Riddell> smartboyhw: I have a pandaboard but it's not running just now and I'm not at home
[15:08] <Riddell> smartboyhw: ScottK does have some
[15:10] <Riddell> playing with them now to check they still work
[15:12] <smartboyhw> Ok
[15:12] <murthy> Riddell: in the last patch i just replaced the fns qmax(A,B) and qmin(A,B) with qmax(qreal(A),B) and qmin(qreal(A),B). But actually its wrong, i have to do that only to a selective one, it feels silly to say this to a software guru
[15:13] <murthy> Riddell: you won't mind be telling to you right?
[15:13] <Riddell> murthy: cast mechanisms in c++ are something nobody understands
[15:15] <murthy> Riddell: no i mean you must be knowing this already  and you wont get offended when i say this stuff to you right? you have a lot of programming experience and i am just a noob
[15:16] <Riddell> murthy: heck I reviewed your patch and didn't see it as a problem so I'm just as at fault :)
[15:17] <Riddell> murthy: /msg
[15:21] <murthy> smartboyhw: i am in wonderland :)
[15:25] <smartboyhw> murthy: LOL
[15:50] <murthy> Riddell: I am getting this error for apt-get source  . "E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list", i tried after uncommenting the deb-src in sources.list, didn't work
[15:52] <maco> murthy: did you apt-get update after uncommenting them?
[15:52] <murthy> maco: didn't try that, let me check
[15:53] <maco> always apt-get update after editing sources.list
[15:53] <murthy> ya, sorry for the silly mistake
[15:55] <murthy> maco: that solved, thanks
[16:24] <Quintasan> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=313479
[16:24] <Quintasan> what the fuck
[16:25] <Quintasan> >Can we schedule that for 5.0
[16:28] <Quintasan> lololololol
[16:30] <Quintasan> If this is a feature then what the hell
[16:30] <Quintasan> We migh ship everything written in Python then
[16:42] <Tm_T> maco hi, long time no tsatsa
[16:49] <maco> Tm_T: hi
[16:54] <murthy> Riddell: I am having trouble setting up the base environment, and also while meddling exited the screen, shall i try  this tomorrow ?
[17:04] <Mamarok> folpjs, there might be a dependency problem for people trying to install amarok 2.7 on 12.04: http://paste.kde.org/714458/
[17:04] <Mamarok> folks*
[19:31] <soee> hiho, i see 4.10.2 almost here :)
[19:49] <yofel> Riddell, murthy_: I uploaded kscreen rc1 (i.e. 0.0.81) a few days ago already
[20:23] <yofel> Mamarok: looking, in precise it does indeed not depend on kde-runtime (for whatever reason)
[21:44] <Riddell> yofel: you're ahead of us :)
[21:44] <yofel> well, scott was ahead of me ^^
[21:55] <yofel> on the other hand, I would appreciate it if someone could update tomahawk to 0.6.1. I already filed a bug, but have no time till sunday
[21:56] <yofel> murthy_ ^
[22:08] <Riddell> yofel: ssh don't distract murthy from nootka first :)
[22:10] <yofel> oops
[22:43] <Riddell> kde-workspace uploaded, someone might have to retry the various things that build-dep on that when it's running


[01:23] <jledbetter> pleia2, Is there a session at UDS?
[01:25] <pleia2> jledbetter: nope
[01:30] <jledbetter> Ok. Didn't want to miss something :)


[17:36] <paulm--> Is there a way to permit service reloading by non-root users?
[17:36] <paulm--> I would like to be able to set a specific service to be reloadable by any user


[09:59] <arraybolt3> Sigh, forgot to check out the ISO after respin until just now before going to bed, and *now* my Internet has slowed to a total crawl. Hopefully you've already tested it.
[09:59] <arraybolt3> Sorry about that.


[00:02] <pangolin> kick me you fools
[01:38] <guessst> I'm trying to set autologin in lubuntu 12.04 editing /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf ---> autologin=myusername but it doesn't have effect... is this a bug?
[01:38] <urfr332g0> guessst, you can do that from user
[01:39] <guessst> urfr332g0: can you show me how?
[01:39] <urfr332g0> guessst, I'm not in lubuntu to not really, look in the menu I would think.
[01:39] <urfr332g0> to=so
[01:40]  * kklimonda is surprised lightdm, or at least unity-greeter, is not being configured by gsettings
[01:40] <guessst> ok... I'll try it
[03:50] <ritz> hmm, selinux implementation on ubuntu (precise ) aint too great. Do we have an equivalent of setroubleshoot/sealert ( http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/SELinux/SETroubleShoot/UserFAQ ) ?
[04:00] <kklimonda> ritz: not really, we've opted for AppArmor
[04:01] <ritz> kklimonda, hmm, thanks. do we have a document on why so ?
[04:01] <ritz> I believe, SELinux is a far superior implementation
[04:02] <kklimonda> ritz: it's also much harder to implement and maintain properly
[04:03] <kklimonda> I don't really remember a discussion about it in context of Ubuntu though
[04:05] <micahg> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SELinux
[04:06] <micahg> ritz: have you checked out apparmor yet?
[04:08] <kklimonda> micahg: this page is frustratingly short given the complexity of selinux itself ;)
[04:09] <micahg> well, our main focus is on apparmor
[04:11] <ritz_> micahg, do we plan to change this to selinux anytime soon ?
[04:11] <kklimonda> no
[04:11] <ritz_> to target customers with high security requirements ?
[04:11] <kklimonda> ritz_: what does AppArmor lack for your usecase?
[04:11] <micahg> some of the security team works on apparmor
[04:11] <ritz_> hmm, will this akin to additional paid service ?
[04:12] <micahg> if there's something you think is missing in apparmor, I suggest talking to the security team
[04:12] <ritz_> micahg,  kklimonda  thanks
[04:19] <kklimonda> there is actually so little good documentation about differences between SELinux and AppArmor, and how do they apply to the real world. I'd love to read something good about AppArmor limitations (something more than path-based security is flawed and can never work)
[04:57] <ritz_> kklimonda, I have shot an email regarding this
[04:57] <ritz_> kklimonda, think netlabels , Xace
[07:03] <alkisg> How can I have mandatory settings with gsettings?
[07:03] <alkisg> I'm reading http://live.gnome.org/dconf/SystemAdministrators but it mentions a lot of system paths that don't exist in precise...
[07:04] <alkisg> E.g. "dconf stores its profiles in text files in "/etc/dconf/profile/""
[07:10] <alkisg> "The remaining lines of the profile describe system databases.  These databases are found in /etc/dconf/db/." ==> not found either
[07:12] <alkisg> Also: $ dconf update
[07:12] <alkisg> fatal: Error opening directory '/etc/dconf/db': No such file or directory
[07:54] <denis_> so, is it currently impossible to get epiphany installed in precise?
[07:54] <denis_> I get circular dependencyissues when trying to install the "gnome" metapackage :
[07:55] <denis_>  gnome : Depends: epiphany-extensions (>= 3.0) but it is not going to be installed
[07:55] <denis_>  epiphany-extensions : Depends: epiphany-browser (< 3.3) but 3.3.5-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[08:09] <micahg> epiphany-extensions needs an upgrade
[08:14] <Fai1ure> micahg: ok, so it's a known missing updated package then
[08:14] <micahg> Fai1ure: can you file a bug and I"ll milestone for precise?
[08:14] <Fai1ure> micahg: ok can do
[08:15] <micahg> hmm, checking to see if a rebuild will help
[08:17] <micahg> ah, no, ok
[08:24] <Fai1ure> micahg: 931296
[08:25] <Fai1ure> I'm a bit new to launchpad bugs, please excuse me if I did anything wrong
[08:25] <micahg> bug 931296
[08:25] <micahg> Fai1ure: looks great, thanks
[08:26] <Fai1ure> ok, thanks for your assistance :)
[10:00] <CT1> astraljava: Thankyou.
[10:42] <Fai1ure> so, possibly after the nss-change last week I am having trouble with getting Unity to work, it only sort of works with Unity 2D, but even then the launcher is nowhere to be found
[10:43] <Fai1ure> it all worked swimmingly earlier last week
[10:43] <Fai1ure> can anyone point me to logs I can check to troubleshoot it?
[11:06] <qw-Russian> hello
[11:06] <qw-Russian> help me please
[11:06] <qw-Russian> i am install kubuntu 10.04 LTS after installation i am upgrade my system from 12.04 but after upgrade system is not started maybe started but i am not see write me system in the monitor
[11:07] <Lekensteyn> 12.04 is not stable yet, stick to 10.04 or 11.10 for now if you are using it on a production machine
[11:08] <qw-Russian> and that to do me?
[11:09] <Fai1ure> qw-Russian: install kubuntu 10.04 again, and don't upgrade to 12.04 :)
[11:10] <qw-Russian> and is it possible how  without a refixturing ?
[11:13] <qw-Russian> ^(
[12:27] <qwm-Russian> i am joinid
[12:40] <guessst> hi, I tried to set autologin in lubuntu 12.04 but without success... could anybody help me to do it?
[12:52] <guessst> ok, I found that for autologin, the correct file to edit is /etc/lightdm/lightdm.con and not /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf
[13:05] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha everyone
[13:13] <MrChrisDruif> Just a small question; the background of LightDM should automatically change to the one the user is using in Pangolin?
[13:14] <carrion> How broken is the alpha ?
[13:14] <MrChrisDruif> I don't know carrion, why do you ask?
[13:15] <carrion> Was thinking of using it
[13:15] <carrion> Just curious how broken it was
[13:15] <MrChrisDruif> Ow, I'm running Pangolin for weeks without much real breakage
[13:15] <carrion> Right...
[13:15] <carrion> Usually updating Ubuntu is enough to break it
[13:16] <MrChrisDruif> I sometimes get the notification that an app didn't boot properly or something but one of the buttons of said message lets me restart it if necessary
[13:16] <carrion> Are they still using unity ?
[13:17] <robin0800> carrion, yes but now you can use gnome classic or gnome shell
[13:17] <MrChrisDruif> Ow, I forgot to mention: I'm running GNOME Shell
[13:18] <carrion> Thank god
[13:18] <carrion> Unity is like the plague.
[13:20] <arand> Hardly, it's the most uncontagious thing ever ;)
[13:21] <carrion> Hardly ? It's disgusting.
[13:22] <MrChrisDruif> Anyhow, seeing carrion isn't having an issue with pangolin because it isn't running it, could we get back to mine? Pretty please? ^_^
[13:23] <carrion> And what is your problem?
[13:26] <MrChrisDruif> My issue is with LightDM and it's background
[13:26] <MrChrisDruif> I heard that LightDM would use the users background in pangolin
[13:40] <rye> MrChrisDruif, yes, it does that for me, what happens on your machine?
[13:42] <MrChrisDruif> When updating from oneiric...it doesn't
[13:43] <carrion> ubuntu breaking on update ... never.
[13:43] <MrChrisDruif> Yes, it's amazing. I did an upgrade from oneiric...I'm still surprised. But anyhow, it's not changing automatically
[13:44] <MrChrisDruif> carrion; I'm not saying Ubuntu (or any other Linux for that matter) can't break from updating/upgrading. I'm just noticing an anomaly in this upgrade.
[13:45] <carrion> ubuntu usually breaks stuff on update
[13:45] <carrion> it's known for it
[13:45] <MrChrisDruif> <_<"
[13:45] <MrChrisDruif> carrion; nobody is forcing you to use Ubuntu. If you don't like it, then switch to another distribution.  Let me check this
[13:56] <MrChrisDruif> Yes, but using GS instead of Unity should not alter LightDM...right?
[13:57] <qw-Russian> help me please
[13:57] <qw-Russian> i would like install Delphi from my Spark (Linux)
[13:57] <MrChrisDruif> What's the issue qw-Russian ?
[13:58] <rye> MrChrisDruif, flashplayer installation
[13:58] <MrChrisDruif> rye; sorry? Is the flashplayer the issue?
[13:58] <qw-Russian> rye, prikin i am install flash auto
[13:59] <qw-Russian> =)
[13:59] <rye> MrChrisDruif, no, qw-Russian tries to, chatting with him in private
[13:59] <MrChrisDruif> Ah
[14:00] <alkisg> If someone speaks to me in IRC, the pidgin panel icon flashes. But in gnome-shell I don't see it, as the icon is hidden. Any way around that problem?
[14:01] <MrChrisDruif> alkisg; don't you get notify-osd messages in the bottom of the screen?
[14:02] <MrChrisDruif> (an other option would be to install a more proper IRC client like xchat, but that is up to you)
[14:02] <alkisg> MrChrisDruif: if I'm looking at the screen at that time, yes, but if I'm away from my computer for 1 minute, I don't see any notifications (i.e. the flashing icon)
[14:02] <alkisg> I think empathy shows a blue icon instead, but wouldn't that be hidden too?
[14:02] <qw-Russian> were main channel from speak other people from other country
[14:02] <MrChrisDruif> You could move your mouse to the bottom right corner to view any missed messages?
[14:02] <qw-Russian> ?
[14:03] <MrChrisDruif> qw-Russian; your looking for the Russian loco support channel?
[14:03] <qw-Russian> no
[14:03] <qw-Russian> other county
[14:03] <rye> MrChrisDruif, installing gnome shell to see whether background drawing key is the same, lightdm peeks into user settings, so it should be able to
[14:03] <alkisg> MrChrisDruif: that's missing the whole point of the panel icons though, which is to display program status without user action... I could just switch to pidgin instead...
[14:04] <alkisg> (and see the blue color in the tab were someone has talked to me)
[14:06] <alkisg> I guess what I'm asking for, is for a way to move some program icons from down+right to the up+right panel which is always visible
[14:07] <qw-Russian> Were Help me from MS Oficce?
[14:09] <MrChrisDruif> alkisg; maybe #8 is what you are looking for? http://www.noobslab.com/2011/11/things-to-do-after-installing-linux.html
[14:11] <alkisg> MrChrisDruif: thanks, that looks like it should fix it for at least pidgin... I don't care much for the other icons, so it should be ok.
[14:11] <MrChrisDruif> Use that ppa at your own risk of course alkisg ^_^
[14:11] <alkisg> Yup thanks again
[14:13] <gnomefreak> what PPA?
[14:13] <qw-Russian>  i am install Spark by Linux but i have DB from Access Were me Download and install access from Spark ?
[14:13] <MrChrisDruif> gnomefreak; the one in the link I showed alkisg
[14:14] <gnomefreak> MrChrisDruif: thanks looking now
[14:14] <MrChrisDruif> It *should* be okay as it's the webupd8team ppa gnomefreak
[14:16] <gnomefreak> sojmehting bothers me about that whole article
[14:16] <rye> MrChrisDruif, so, gnome and unity are using the same keys for wallpaper
[14:17] <MrChrisDruif> Alright, that is positive I guess
[14:17] <gnomefreak> the PPA contains the word "gnome3" but keeps mentioning "gnome-shell" gnome-shell is not the same as gnome3
[14:17] <MrChrisDruif> So it is a setting in LightDM that doesn't get properly installed with an upgrade cycle?
[14:19] <rye> MrChrisDruif, could you please try looking into /var/log/lightdm/ logs to see whether there are some errors?
[14:20] <MrChrisDruif> Sure rye
[14:20] <MrChrisDruif> The lightdm.log?
[14:21] <rye> MrChrisDruif, x-0-greeter.log
[14:23] <MrChrisDruif> rye; shall I pastebin it for you so you can check it? I don't know what to look for
[14:23] <rye> MrChrisDruif, yep, try, i am not an expert though
[14:25] <MrChrisDruif> You should have the link rye
[14:32] <gnomefreak> anyone have an account for marlboro.com. i would love to have someone test it see if it opens but you have  to sign in first. the login screen is normal once i log in i get a black screen
[14:32] <gnomefreak> it loads as if it has no content at all. but would love another to test
[14:33] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[14:38] <qw-Russian> help me
[14:38] <qw-Russian> i am install lazarys from Spark
[14:38] <qw-Russian> but i am not search
[14:38] <valdur55> qw-Russian, join in #ubuntu chat.
[14:39] <valdur55> yoin to
[14:40] <qw-Russian> understand
[14:40] <qw-Russian> search
[14:45] <MrChrisDruif> rye; back
[14:45] <MrChrisDruif> rye; You wanted me to just log out or reboot?
[14:47] <rye> MrChrisDruif, log out only
[14:47] <MrChrisDruif> Alright, then it didn't work
[14:47] <rye> MrChrisDruif, after you change the wallpaper
[14:48] <rye> MrChrisDruif, what is current background gsettings value?
[18:12] <zzecool> it seems that doing an update leaves you without Compiz    cause of missing "libcompizconfig0"  not yet updated
[18:12] <zzecool> im using the main archive
[18:12] <zzecool> did anyone else has this problem is any other archive up to date ?
[18:24] <zzecool> Actually it looks like there is an epic upload of packages right now
[18:24] <zzecool> in every update something new pops up
[18:24] <jtaylor> feature freeze on thursday :)
[18:25] <zzecool> i think it is wise to wait   , after all it is Debian freeze
[18:25] <zzecool> jtaylor: exactly i just noticed
[18:25] <zzecool> I saw new unity  plugin package
[18:26] <zzecool> i hope they didnt remove Dodge on active window on this....
[19:33] <FernandoMiguel> evening
[19:34] <qw-Russian> hello
[19:34] <qw-Russian> help me please people
[19:34] <qw-Russian> i am install Lazarus but that there activation not all functions and possibilities
[20:13] <trism> qw-Russian: did you install it from the ubuntu software center? try: sudo apt-get install lazarus; you may have only installed lazarus-ide by mistake (the names in software center can be confusing)
[20:14] <qw-Russian> yes install
[20:16] <qw-Russian> okey thank you
[20:17] <qw-Russian> i am going sleeping
[22:17] <jo-erlend> Interesting. I don't have the software center anymore. Is it just me, or has it gone on vacation or something?
[22:21] <Daekdroom> jo-erlend, it's possible you unknowingly let it be removed by updates that broke dependencies.
[22:21] <Daekdroom> I still have it installed
[22:21] <jo-erlend> quite likely. It's being synced I'm told.
[22:21] <Daekdroom> Check if the software-center and ubuntu-desktop packages are installed
[22:39] <jrgifford> Well, here goes - updating my precise install.


[02:44] <ypwong> JackYu, 還在弄 :)
[02:44] <JackYu> ypwong, 好的^s to mobile devices powered by Ubuntu. Mir can be viewed as a replacement for the X window server system on Ubuntu
[17:28] <Skyline27> Hi
[17:29] <Skyline27> Just need some small help with the Ubuntu Kylin 14.10 if possible.
[17:33] <Skyline27> I actually just need to remove the OS effects so it can run more smooth, if anybody knows...


[00:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libreoffice [amd64] (groovy-proposed/main) [1:7.0.1~rc1-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[01:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: node-prosemirror-markdown [amd64] (groovy-proposed/universe) [1.4.4-1] (no packageset)
[01:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ruby-aws-sdk-s3 [amd64] (groovy-proposed/universe) [1.48.0-3] (no packageset)
[08:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added libdata-section-simple-perl to i386-whitelist in groovy
[08:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added libdevel-checkcompiler-perl to i386-whitelist in groovy
[08:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added liblocale-us-perl to i386-whitelist in groovy
[08:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added libmodule-build-xsutil-perl to i386-whitelist in groovy
[08:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added libpath-class-perl to i386-whitelist in groovy
[08:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added libregexp-common-perl to i386-whitelist in groovy
[09:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linuxaudio-new-session-manager [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [1.3.2-0ubuntu1]
[09:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linuxaudio-new-session-manager [armhf] (groovy-proposed) [1.3.2-0ubuntu1]
[09:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linuxaudio-new-session-manager [riscv64] (groovy-proposed) [1.3.2-0ubuntu1]
[09:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linuxaudio-new-session-manager [arm64] (groovy-proposed) [1.3.2-0ubuntu1]
[09:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linuxaudio-new-session-manager [s390x] (groovy-proposed) [1.3.2-0ubuntu1]
[09:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linuxaudio-new-session-manager [ppc64el] (groovy-proposed) [1.3.2-0ubuntu1]
[09:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-contravariant-extras [armhf] (groovy-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-1]
[09:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted node-prosemirror-markdown [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [1.4.4-1]
[09:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ruby-aws-sdk-s3 [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [1.48.0-3]
[10:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted zfs-linux [source] (focal-proposed) [0.8.3-1ubuntu12.4]
[10:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted zfs-linux [source] (bionic-proposed) [0.7.5-1ubuntu16.10]
[10:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted linux-firmware [source] (focal-proposed) [1.187.3]
[10:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ubuntu-meta [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.361.5]
[11:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qemu [source] (focal-proposed) [1:4.2-3ubuntu6.5]
[11:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted base-files [source] (focal-proposed) [11ubuntu5.2]
[11:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: base-files [amd64] (focal-proposed/main) [11ubuntu5.2] (core, i386-whitelist)
[11:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted base-files [source] (bionic-proposed) [10.1ubuntu2.10]
[11:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted base-files [source] (xenial-proposed) [9.4ubuntu4.13]
[11:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: base-files [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [10.1ubuntu2.10] (core)
[11:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: base-files [amd64] (xenial-proposed/main) [9.4ubuntu4.13] (core)
[11:52]  * Laney gently helps the haskell transition along with a -validity fix
[12:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: termtosvg [amd64] (groovy-proposed/universe) [1.1.0+dfsg-2] (no packageset)
[12:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-azure-5.4 [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [5.4.0-1023.23~18.04.1] (no packageset)
[13:50] <mdeslaur> So the libreswan autopkgtest is now failing because it looks like launchpad now knows about "needs-internet", but internet access isn't complete...does launchpad support "open-internet-access" or do I drop the test completely?
[13:51] <mdeslaur> s/launchpad/the autopkgtest infrastructure/
[13:52] <mdeslaur> Laney: ^ perhaps you know?
[14:01] <Laney> mdeslaur: open-internet-access is still just a proposal, I don't think we have a way to say the equivalent yet
[14:02] <Laney> It looks from a quick reading like that test might want to be skippable and exit 77 if the ping fails, or something like that?
[14:08] <mdeslaur> Laney: is 77 a special exit codes? where can I see where those are documented?
[14:09] <Laney> mdeslaur: https://salsa.debian.org/ci-team/autopkgtest/blob/master/doc/README.package-tests.rst "skippable"
[14:09] <mdeslaur> Laney: ah, perfect, just what I needed. Thanks!
[14:09] <Laney> np
[14:09] <mdeslaur> ebarretto: ^
[14:09] <Laney> that feels upstreamable too, ideally
[14:10] <mdeslaur> yeah
[14:11] <ebarretto> mdeslaur, ack, thanks! thanks Laney too!
[14:13] <Laney> np!
[14:13] <Laney> LocutusOfBorg: thx for uploading that patch
[14:13] <Laney> I forgot how debian-haskell works, should probably leave that group
[14:13] <Laney> or maybe somneone did already
[14:13] <Laney> removed me*
[14:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted netgen [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [6.2.2006+dfsg-1]
[14:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted termtosvg [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [1.1.0+dfsg-2]
[14:32] <ricotz> hi, please retry ppc64el and s390x for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/1:7.0.1~rc1-0ubuntu1
[14:45] <Laney> ricotz: I will, I just asked Launchpad people (on an internal channel) about these ones to see if there's something for them to look at first
[15:06] <didrocks> cjwatson: hey, once you get some time, I’m puzzled to see why germinate against groovy-proposed output lines like golang-google-api-dev                               | golang-google-api                     | Rescued from golang-google-api                   | Ubuntu Developers<EMAIL_ADDRESS>              |         3587748 |           93367
[15:07] <didrocks> golang-google-api is in universe, I don’t find anything in any seed and it’s only against proposed
[15:07] <didrocks> (rationale is: this one and some others are showing up as root nodes on component-mismatches)
[15:13] <ricotz> Laney, ty
[15:13] <Laney> ricotz: It looks like there's a problem with the buildds though so it might struggle to finish until that's sorted out
[15:14] <Laney> but we'll see
[15:18] <Eickmeyer> Not sure if it's related, but I'm having a similar problem with germinate at the moment.
[15:19] <Eickmeyer> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/r45dTCXJNZ/
[15:30] <Eickmeyer> Nevermind, seems to be working now.
[15:37] <cjwatson> didrocks: This is legitimately extremely confusing, but I think it *might* be because golang-goprotobuf in -proposed has gained a dependency on golang-google-protobuf-dev, or similar?  Basically a bunch of golang stuff ends up in the build-sources closure of the supported-cloud seed and that then activates the "Extra-Include: ... *-dev" seed in supported
[15:38] <cjwatson> didrocks: I think it might be worth adding "Extra-Exclude: golang-*-dev" to override that for golang, since the "include all *-dev packages from otherwise-supported things" rule doesn't make as much sense for lang
[15:38] <cjwatson> *golang
[15:41] <cjwatson> Eickmeyer: Certainly unrelated.  But where did you see that?
[15:44] <Eickmeyer> cjwatson: Output from updating the ubuntustudio-meta source, but it went away. I think it was just a burp in the git server.
[15:46] <didrocks> cjwatson: that makes sense, I’ll look at the Extra-Exclude indeed as golang package are special in that regards. Thanks for looking!
[16:45] <ahasenack> vorlon: hi, tjaalton accepted my base-files sru, but a) the NEW package needs to be accepted; b) it needs to go into main; c) I missed the bug number in d/changelog of ubuntu-meta's x and b upload (focal has it, but wasn't accepted). And I think he is EOD now
[17:00] <tjaalton> right, i'm off already for today, can handle them on monday if needed
[17:08] <ahasenack> thanks
[18:05] <LocutusOfBorg> Laney, thenks you to for providing the patch, otherwise all the work would have been useless :)
[18:05] <LocutusOfBorg> but next time please just commit on git and upload
[18:15] <LocutusOfBorg> (I added you to the team)
[21:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libreoffice [ppc64el] (groovy-proposed/main) [1:7.0.1~rc1-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[21:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected secureboot-db [source] (bionic-proposed) [1.4.1]
[21:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected secureboot-db [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.4.1~ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[21:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected secureboot-db [source] (focal-proposed) [1.6~20.04.1]
[21:34] <Laney> LocutusOfBorg: It confuses me with the package plan and stuff, I'm scared of breaking it because I forgot how all that works and I don't fancy re-learning
[21:34] <Laney> but thanks
[21:42] <bdmurray> vorlon: Could you update the autopkgtest-cloud worker configurations?
[21:51] <vorlon> bdmurray: done
[21:52] <bdmurray> vorlon: thanks!
[21:59] <vorlon> Eickmeyer: hmm so I understood we were redoing dragonfly-reverb in order to fix the debian/copyright warnings from lintian... and lintian -I still shows a bunch of them
[22:02] <LocutusOfBorg> Laney, I just do and commit on git, and git tag version...
[22:02] <LocutusOfBorg> nothing more :) I know they have stuff but meh, I don't care
[22:05] <cjwatson> Eickmeyer: There were some performance problems earlier today, indeed, worked around by repacking a particularly heavy repository
[23:41] <vorlon> juliank: grub2 has a grubzfs-testsuite autopkgtest regression focal that I believe had a matching one in groovy fixed by an update to grubzfs-testsuite.  Should we be SRUing this in focal?