[07:01] <gyaresu> madsen: 32bit version.
[07:01] <Flannel> madsen: you probably want the 32
[07:01] <kelsin> i386 will probably give you many less headaches
[07:02] <SJ2000> What are the downsides of using vesa to the nv driver? (I could never get the proper nv driver working on other ubuntu installs)
[07:02] <standingstill> i think i installed them using ndisgtk
[07:02] <madsen> gyaresu, Flannel, kelsin: Thanks a bunch! I'll go with the 32 bit version. :)
[07:02] <thoreauputic> SJ2000: vesa is basic and slow
[07:02] <standingstill> and when i ndiswrapper -l ....it shows both drivers installed
[07:02] <anonymeeee> !commands
[07:02] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:02] <rbil> SJ2000: once u got an installed system, you should probably look at install the proprietary driver from nvidia
[07:03] <owner__> i used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP to set everything up
[07:03] <owner__> i made a test.php file and put it in /var/www when i put http://localhost/test.php   it will not load the page.
[07:03] <gyaresu> madsen: good luck.
[07:03] <ledbettj> standingstill: but it doesn't say "hardware attached?"
[07:03] <omeil> SJ2000: vesa is basically software, u use the CPU and the Memory as your graphical outputs.
[07:03] <ledbettj> er, "hardware present"
[07:03] <owner__> can some1 help\
[07:03] <rbil> SJ2000: look at the envy script for an easy way to do that
[07:03] <SJ2000> rbil: could you give me a link to some more information?
[07:03] <kelsin> owner__: what happens instead? does it load the page fine, but doesn't run php or does it not find the page at all?
[07:03] <standingstill> yes, it says "hardware present"
[07:03] <rbil> !envy | SJ2000
[07:03] <ubotu> SJ2000: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[07:03] <madsen> gyaresu: Thanks. I think I'll go with 7.04, even though it's not stable. (I've been running Debian for 7 years, I think I can handle a little instability.) ;)
[07:03] <ledbettj> standingstill:for both drivers, or just one?
[07:03] <owner__> it does not find the page at all
[07:03] <standingstill> both
[07:03] <SJ2000> thankyou very much
[07:04] <chris__> I've followed all of the guides for installing codecs and whatnot, but I can't get mplayer to play .ogg, .mov, .avi files
[07:04] <gyaresu> owner__: Your back. Did you follow all the instructions and did anything go wrong?
[07:04] <chris__> would someone offer me a suggestion?
[07:04] <kelsin> owner__: is apache running? and does http://<IP_ADDRESS>/test.php work?
[07:04] <ledbettj> standingstill:  hmm, I would suggest removing them both and installing just one.  I'm not sure exactly how to trouble shoot this.
[07:04] <bjv> what part of the system makes it go "begin: starting up RAIDs"      it makes my boot take >15min
[07:04] <owner__> yes apache is running
[07:04] <eck> bjv: i think that is mdadm
[07:04] <bjv> i cannot find any RAID superblocks left on my system with mdadm
[07:05] <owner__> that doesnt work either
[07:05] <standingstill> ok....so if i uninstall one....what's the next step i should take?
[07:05] <bjv> something is still triggering the "begin: starting up RAIDs"
[07:05] <gyaresu> owner__: and you installed apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
[07:05] <owner__> yes
[07:05] <kelsin> owner__: probably should head over to #apache, they could probably help more then we can, I'm already stumped
[07:05] <gyaresu> owner__: and php5?
[07:05] <ledbettj> standingstill: I would uninstall them both, then use "sudo ndiswrapper -i theinffile.inf" to install one.
[07:05] <chip0wa> #macosx
[07:05] <PCGenie_> hi again, i am using gnome on my dappy desktop, what options do i have for rss viewing?
[07:05] <owner__> yes
[07:05] <ledbettj> standingstill:  then try to configure it with the network manager
[07:06] <gyaresu> !prefix | owner__
[07:06] <ubotu> owner__: If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[07:06] <anonymeeee> gyaresu: thank you for your help with the screen res issue:)
[07:06] <ledbettj> you also might try googling for your card name to see if anyone else knows which driver works best
[07:06] <gyaresu> anonymeeee: Great. Glad you got it fixed.
[07:06] <b0rted> crimsun: sorry to disturb again, but i still dont know how/where to copy/convert the firmware from hotplug to udev
[07:06] <standingstill> ok...i'll try uninstalling both
[07:06] <ledbettj> standingstill:  sorry I couldn't help more
[07:06] <Jj> hi
[07:06] <crimsun> b0rted: that url has some hints for the conversion
[07:06] <gyaresu> owner__: 'telnet localhost 80' then type 'quit'
[07:07] <Jj> anyone knows how to enable amr codec in libavformat in ubuntu
[07:07] <standingstill> thanks anyways....if you run across anyone who knows more about it...send them my ways :)
[07:07] <standingstill> thanks!
[07:07] <ledbettj> sure thing!
[07:08] <ardchoille> PCGenie_: I like Liferea for rss stuff.. though there are probably more apps for it.
[07:08] <b0rted> crimsun: "If you had made any custom changes to the agent or rc scripts, these will need to be re-expressed as udev rules[0] " << all hint i can find
[07:09] <standingstill> ledbettj: this is the error msg i've been getting when i launch ndisgtk from the command line
[07:09] <nick125_lappy> omeil: I think the issue is with the vesa driver..
[07:10] <crimsun> b0rted: scroll down to the bottom of that url.
[07:10] <standingstill> it still launches the window and seems to work....but i still get that error msg when i launch it
[07:10] <owner__> !prefix | gyaresu_
[07:10] <ubotu> gyaresu_: If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[07:10] <gyaresu> ubotu: tell owner__ about yourself
[07:10] <omeil> nick125_lappy: what type of vid card do you have in your comp?
[07:10] <morphinex> hey folks
[07:10] <nick125_lappy> I tried using the vga driver instead of vesa, and, it didn't segfault
[07:11] <morphinex> grub is throwing me error 5 after i put a new hard drive into my machine
[07:11] <gyaresu> owner__: Did you try the commands I listed?
[07:11] <nick125_lappy> omeil: no idea, it's some extremely old intel card
[07:11] <owner__> yes
[07:11] <gyaresu> owner__: I'm trying here but seriously dude do I look like a mind reader????
[07:11] <slylyias> What is CVS?
[07:11] <kelsin> !cvs
[07:11] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[07:11] <owner__> its says trying <IP_ADDRESS> but then doesnt do anything
[07:11] <welemski> hi
[07:12] <owner__> sorry i type slow
[07:12] <slylyias> so if a program I'm trying to get says it's only availiable through CVS, what does that mean?
[07:12] <billy> greetings earthlings.
[07:12] <b0rted> crimsun: sorry i dont understand that, i compiled a firmware, got a file.fw, and was told to put in /lib/hotplug/firmware
[07:12] <billy> can we talk about beryl in here?
[07:12] <omeil> nick125_lappy: should work in vesa tho.
[07:12] <standingstill> NDISWRAPPER PROBLEM
[07:12] <kelsin> slylyias: you have to download the code from the cvs server, compile and install it yourself
[07:12] <rbil> slylyias: it means it's going to come to u as raw source code. what the developers work with
[07:12] <welemski> does all the software in ubuntu ultimate edition 1.2 found in gamers edition?
[07:12] <gyaresu> owner__: try connecting with your browser to http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[07:12] <kelsin> slylyias: probably not something you want to mess with if you didn't know what cvs was to begin with
[07:13] <thoreauputic> morphinex: a quick google reveals 5 : Partition table invalid or corrupt
[07:13] <standingstill> i keep getting this error when installing a driver: fred@Sluggo:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[07:13] <standingstill> Installing bcmwl5
[07:13] <standingstill> couldn't copy bcmwl5.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.8 line 144.
[07:13] <standingstill> fred@Sluggo:~$
[07:13] <b0rted> crimsun: SUBSYSTEM=="$SUBSYSTEM", RUN+="/lib/udev/$FOO" << where to use that?
[07:13] <kelsin> !pastbin standingstill
[07:13] <thoreauputic> morphinex: see http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_13.html
[07:13] <kelsin> !pastebin standingstill
[07:13] <owner__> gyaresu_ it won't connect
[07:13] <kelsin> wow I'm a noob
[07:13] <billy> do I have to add "beryl-manager" to >preferences>sessions>startup programs to get the little red diamond in the system tray?
[07:13] <jlgaddis> billy: yeah
[07:13] <slylyias> kelsin: I want to compile and install something from source, I keep hitting that wall, no time like the present to learn (especially since I'm on an amd 64 and so often have to compile from source to get something)
[07:13] <standingstill> kelsin: i'm sorry...i don't understand "!pastbin"
[07:13] <crimsun> b0rted: in a udev rule
[07:13] <billy> jlgaddis: thanks.  beryl started fine, but the little red diamond didn't show up.
[07:13] <Flannel> welemski: Neither of those are official Ubuntu projects
[07:13] <jlgaddis> billy: you can start a terminal (or hit alt-f2) and start it up manually, but that gets old quick
[07:14] <morphinex> thoreauputic: it says busted partition, but I know that isn't the case
[07:14] <zcat[1] > !pastabin
[07:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastabin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:14] <rbil> billy: yes
[07:14] <owner__> gyaresu_ it says connection timed out
[07:14] <welemski> Flannel so I can't ask question about it here?
[07:14] <morphinex> grub seems to be looking at the new HD I installed for some reason
[07:14] <thoreauputic> morphinex: if it says that, then grub thinks that :)
[07:14] <morphinex> and failing there - when i unplug the new (blank) hd, everything works fine
[07:14] <gyaresu> owner__: try scanning yourself 'nc -v -z <IP_ADDRESS> 1-1024'
[07:14] <kenthomson> HELP; i want to install the latest nvidia drivers from either the script-envy or lupine's-repositories, now my question is; if there are some kernel upgrades by ubuntu and i have another linux-restricted-module (due to my higher nvidia-glx than the official ubuntu one), than will i fail to get kernel security upgrades? Or what other problems will i encounter?like not getting kernel upgrades...or broken kernel or something? I am new, so please be a li
[07:14] <kenthomson> ttle more explanative in your reply. PLease HELP
[07:14] <billy> i'm so stoked that beryl works now.  i tried it before and it didn't work.  maybe there's something about a complete reinstall.  :)
[07:14] <Flannel> welemski: We wouldn't know anything about them.
[07:15] <thoreauputic> morphinex: is your new hdd formatted ? and is it hda or hdb or what?
[07:15] <welemski> just wan't to ask if someone here tried it out .... maybe ask some advice as to which one should I download
[07:15] <b0rted> crimsun: i dont know about that, thanks for ur help anyway
[07:15] <kelsin> slylyias: then look up some cvs tutorials online, you use cvs to download the code, then you do the normal compiling stuff, probably reading the README file included with the code is a good start on that
[07:15] <morphinex> it ins't formatted
[07:15] <morphinex> and is hdb
[07:15] <gyaresu> owner__: port 80 should be open if it's not then you need to change something. Sorry but I've got to go. Good luck.
[07:15] <morphinex> For whatever reason my system seems to have hdb and hdc
[07:15] <acid_burn> Has anyone used Parallels with Ubuntu 6.10?
[07:15] <zcat[1] > morphinex: the drive on your primary controller is jumpered as slave?
[07:16] <morphinex> zcat[1] : no, it is master
[07:16] <acid_burn> Anyone?
[07:16] <kenthomson> crimsun, i read one of your conversation over IRC, regarding the installation of ktoon package from ubuntu's repos wherein a package had to be renamed to packageS, or something, that was interesting
[07:16] <zcat[1] > curious
[07:16] <slylyias> I was trying to get read/write access to my external hard drive (USB, NTFS), I built pmount, and now it no longer shows up as "EXTERNAL" on my desktop, (I used to have read-only) where is it now?
[07:16] <morphinex> zcat[1] : well, it is cable select - the machine won't boot when it is set to slave
[07:16] <morphinex> zcat[1] : but the bios recognizes it as master
[07:16] <zcat[1] > morphinex: it's on the end connector?
[07:16] <crimsun> kenthomson: meaning hacking /var/lib/dpkg/status to get around k3d's breakage?
[07:16] <morphinex> zcat[1] : yup
[07:17] <zcat[1] > weird
[07:17] <morphinex> grub seems to be looking to it for something
[07:17] <morphinex> that is my only guess
[07:17] <kenthomson> crimsun, ya
[07:17] <kenthomson> Can someone please help me regarding my question above, about the official latest nvidia drivers and the future kernel upgrade problems associated with it?
[07:17] <rbil> morphinex: personally I prefer setting switches to master/slave rather than that silly cable select
[07:17] <zcat[1] > possibly you have sata on the board, set to emulate ide ?
[07:18] <xoss> where can i get the link to download previous releases of ubuntu? say hoary?
[07:18] <owner__> how do i open port 80
[07:18] <morphinex> rbil: me too, but cs is the only way it would book
[07:18] <acid_burn> uh.
[07:18] <morphinex> zcat[1] : the board is too old to have sata
[07:18] <zcat[1] > morphinex: I'm all out of guesses then :)
[07:19] <morphinex> zcat[1] : am I correct that grub is looking to the drive for something?
[07:19] <slylyias> I was trying to get read/write access to my external hard drive (USB, NTFS), I built pmount, and now it no longer shows up as "EXTERNAL" on my desktop, (I used to have it there as read-only) where is it now or how do I get it back?
[07:19] <rbil> morphinex: can u put the new hard drive on the other ide?
[07:19] <morphinex> rbil: the other bus is fill
[07:19] <morphinex> full
[07:19] <thoreauputic> xoss: http://archive.cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/
[07:19] <rbil> morphinex: well, I don't understand why switches don't work, unless you're making a mistake with them
[07:20] <xoss> thanks thoreauputic!
[07:20] <zcat[1] > morphinex: I think the kernel decides to call it /dev/hd? based on where it sees it.. nothing to do with grub afaik
[07:20] <thoreauputic> xoss: yw :)
[07:20] <sm0k3d> hey guys
[07:20] <billy> yo sm0k3d
[07:20] <morphinex> rbil: I don't really know either, but I fought with the mobo for a long time before I could get it to even recognize the new drive
[07:21] <makuseru> how can i split an mpeg into two parts?
[07:21] <rbil> so what's on ide2?
[07:21] <r4nge> where do i find what scripts/programs are loaded at system startup
[07:21] <standingstill> NDISWRAPPER ERROR: fred@Sluggo:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf
[07:21] <standingstill> Installing bcmwl5
[07:21] <standingstill> couldn't copy bcmwl5.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.8 line 144.
[07:21] <standingstill> fred@Sluggo:~$
[07:21] <morphinex> 2 hard drives - one with ubu and one with xp
[07:21] <ScreaminIke> makuseru: split
[07:21] <zcat[1] > makuseru: kino, perhaps.. or vlc?
[07:21] <cas3> how can I send a command to a new xterm? somecommand | xterm ?didnt work
[07:21] <makuseru> kino does DV only, vlc only does snapshots
[07:21] <standingstill> can anyone explain what this error means?
[07:22] <ALL4N> !ati
[07:22] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:22] <rbil> morphinex: and on ide1?
[07:22] <ardchoille> cas3: xterm -x command  ?
[07:22] <sm0k3d> im trying to get sshd to work on my box, i have the desktop version of ubuntu because i was having a lot of trouble with the server version, anyway i dont know how to edit iptables in the desktop mode so it will accept my port for sshd, can some1 help?
[07:22] <morphinex> nothing at the moment, but that is where i was trying to put the new hard drive
[07:22] <slylyias> I was trying to get read/write access to my external hard drive (USB, NTFS), I built pmount, and now it no longer shows up as "EXTERNAL" on my desktop, (I used to have it there as read-only) where is it now or how do I get it back?
[07:22] <xoss> im planning to install ubuntu on old pc's with specs: 128MB ram, PIII 1Ghz proc.. i plan to install old versions of ubuntu then just upgrade it later.. any better advice??
[07:22] <makuseru> screaminike: are you saying a command or what there?
[07:22] <zcat[1] > kino can import and export almost anything... not sure what vlc supports but it has some features for transcoding and stuff.. it might be able to split files
[07:22] <zcat[1] > xoss: xubuntu
[07:22] <rbil> morphinex: and you're using cable select on the new drive?
[07:22] <ardchoille> cas3: it may be -e
[07:22] <ScreaminIke> makuseru: man split
[07:22] <morphinex> rbil: yes
[07:23] <GazzaK> xoss: just use the alt cd installer
[07:23] <cas3> woo hoo
[07:23] <cas3> thanks
[07:23] <Madpilot> xoss, go with the latest version of xubuntu, from the alternate CD
[07:23] <rbil> morphinex: and your bios wont see it if you set it as master?
[07:23] <Eclipse75> xoss, or use slackware or some low resource hog distro
[07:23] <GazzaK> yeah, or xubuntu :)
[07:23] <rbil> morphinex: or stand alone?
[07:23] <ardchoille> cas3: :)
[07:23] <kenthomson> Can someone please help me regarding my question above, about the official latest nvidia drivers and the future kernel upgrade problems associated with it?
[07:23] <makuseru> screaminike: thank you
[07:23] <xoss> zcat[1] : alt cd installer? hmm.. havent tried it, i used the livecd before..
[07:23] <ScreaminIke> np
[07:23] <morphinex> rbil: it didn't work as master, i didn't try standalone
[07:23] <witless> ok, i got ivtv installed, and tvtime.  i ran v4l-conf and /dev/video0 exists.  but tvtime gives me: videoinput: Card failed to allocate capture buffers: Invalid argument
[07:23] <zcat[1] > xoss: yeah, alt requires a lot less memory...
[07:23] <Madpilot> xoss, http://xubuntu.org/get
[07:23] <rbil> morphinex: if it's the only one on ide1 it should be standalone
[07:24] <xoss> ok will try it..
[07:24] <xoss> thanks guys..
[07:24] <morphinex> rbil: what jumper setting does that need?
[07:24] <sm0k3d> im trying to get sshd to work on my box, i have the desktop version of ubuntu because i was having a lot of trouble with the server version, anyway i dont know how to edit iptables in the desktop mode so it will accept my port for sshd, can some1 help?
[07:24] <morphinex> rbil: there only seem to be three positions
[07:24] <rbil> morphinex: depends on the drive, look at the picture on the top :-)
[07:25] <morphinex> rbil: heh, I am - master, slave, and cable select
[07:25] <morphinex> rbil: slave has no jumper
[07:25] <ScreaminIke> where can i find iso's for ubuntustudio/ubuntu 7.04
[07:25] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: edit  /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[07:25] <rbil> morphinex: what drive is it? model?
[07:25] <morphinex> maxtor diamondmax 20
[07:26] <morphinex> 160g
[07:26] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: oh, sorry - iptables ?
[07:26] <sm0k3d> thoreauputic: i edited the port there already, but for iptables
[07:26] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: right
[07:26] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: hang on a second
[07:26] <PCGenie_> ardchoille, does it automatically read rss when using firefox?
[07:27] <NoWhereToTurn> need some help... with a fresh install of 6.06
[07:27] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: I have a rule like this
[07:27] <ramza3> is samba a replacement for nfs?  is that still used?
[07:27] <thoreauputic> iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -s <IP_ADDRESS>  -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[07:27] <kenthomson> so long and thanks for the help :(
[07:28] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: umm- where the ip of the source is as you see on that line - you won't need that part
[07:28] <sm0k3d> thoreauputic: ?
[07:28] <posingaspopular> NoWhereToTurn: problem?
[07:29] <ScreaminIke> where can i find iso's for ubuntustudio/ubuntu 7.04
[07:29] <posingaspopular> !feisty
[07:29] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[07:29] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: the rule would look like iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[07:29] <NoWhereToTurn> 'Kernel panic - not syncing VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)' <--- after upgrading to 2.6.15-28-386
[07:29] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: just change from 22 to your port
[07:29] <NoWhereToTurn> from 26-386 which still boots ok
[07:30] <mneptok> NoWhereToTurn: LVM?
[07:30] <NoWhereToTurn> ?
[07:31] <mneptok> guess not
[07:31] <omeil> Hmm just tested Age of Wonders with wine and it worked 100% with no flaws
[07:31] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: this assumes that your default policy is "DROP"
[07:31] <ardchoille> PCGenie_: I haven't use Firefox's rss facilities yet, so I don't know.
[07:31] <rbil> morphinex: for single drive pins 7 and 8 should be jumpered
[07:31] <xoss> after installing xubuntu, can i "upgrade" to kubuntu?
[07:31] <carol34d> hello
[07:31] <morphinex> rbil: which are those?
[07:31] <thoreauputic> xoss: yes, just install kubuntu-desktop
[07:32] <mneptok> NoWhereToTurn: where is Linux on the drive physically? within the first 120GB? 64GB? 32GB?
[07:32] <wavez> dumb question: how does one recover the root password?
[07:32] <zcat[1] > wavez: there is none
[07:32] <Flannel> wavez: Ubuntu doesnt use the root password
[07:32] <mneptok> wavez: there is no root password
[07:32] <zcat[1] > !sudo | wavez
[07:32] <thoreauputic> wavez: thereisn't one unless you made one
[07:32] <ubotu> wavez: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:32] <rbil> morphinex: http://www.seagate.com/images/support/en/us/mxo_ata_jumpers.gif
[07:32] <omeil> xoss:sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop just incase u don't know :)
[07:33] <xoss> ok, thanks.. will ask you about it if i've installed xubuntu already..
[07:33] <wavez> okay. How does one recover the user password?
[07:33] <Flannel> xoss: nope.  It doesn't care how many WMs you've installed.  You'll have both Kubuntu andXubuntu installed
[07:33] <sm0k3d> thoreauputic: ok thanks, and if i want to delete one of the entries in iptables?
[07:33] <morphinex> rbil: I am using which setting? master?
[07:33] <zcat[1] > wavez: you can't.
[07:33] <rbil> morphinex: last one on that page, set for master
[07:33] <Flannel> wavez: You've forgotten your own password? And have no other sudo ones?
[07:33] <wavez> I have a computer I haven't used in a while and my friend and I can't remember the password
[07:33] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: you use the -D switch
[07:33] <omeil> jesus. package manager wants me to download 139 updates 0_o
[07:34] <Flannel> wavez: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword to re-set it to something
[07:34] <zcat[1] > wavez: you can set a new password but it's a bit tricky.
[07:34] <morphinex> rbil: this graph is different from the one on the top of my drive
[07:34] <wavez> zcat[1] , ?
[07:34] <morphinex> but anyway, i have it set like that currentl
[07:34] <zcat[1] > what Flannel said
[07:34] <morphinex> err, I did, and it wouldn't boot
[07:34] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[07:34] <sm0k3d> thoreauputic: thanks man, lemme check if i did it right =)
[07:34] <NoWhereToTurn> mneptok the drive is a 40GB drive. hda1 is /boot.. hda3 is Win2k (17GB) hda5 is / and hda7 is swap
[07:34] <Madpilot> morphinex, if there's a jumper graphic on the top of your HD, use it as a guide. Not all drives use the same jumper patterns.
[07:35] <SJ2000> I've installed envy in gnome (currently using the vesa driver) but do I have to restart computer for driver to take effect (since im still running livecd until I am certain that ubuntu desktop will work)
[07:35] <owner__> how can i open port 80
[07:35] <zcat[1] > morphinex: just for the record, CS only works with 80-conductor cable... you're not using the old stuff are you?
[07:35] <leros> i have the both wired connection and a wireless connection at the same time, and I want to use the wired for internet without disabling the wireless access
[07:35] <owner__> http://localhost will not load
[07:35] <morphinex> rbil: I'm using the cable that came with the drive
[07:35] <rbil> SJ2000: I wouldn't try to install nvidia proprietary driver in LiveCD. Wait and do it once you've installed to hard drive
[07:36] <ramza3> how do I look up information on an id, say '1000'
[07:36] <cybercat101> Hi I downloaded a file called skype-<IP_ADDRESS>-generic.tar.bz2 and was wondering how your install the file onto ubuntu
[07:36] <cybercat101> it is a linux program
[07:36] <thoreauputic> owner__: erm, is apache installed ?
[07:36] <aozaki> when you mount an external hd, does it have to be fat or can it be ntfs?
[07:36] <SJ2000> rbil: looks like I'm going to have to, that means RAID headaches
[07:36] <morphinex> rbil: and the drive jumpered for cable select is recognized as master
[07:36] <Madpilot> ubotu, skype | cybercat101
[07:36] <ubotu> cybercat101: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[07:37] <morphinex> rbil: i think the real problem is with grub
[07:37] <leros> how do i make ubuntu prefer my wired connection over my wireless connection?
[07:37] <zcat[1] > morphinex: If your drives are CS, the one in the middle of the cable will be slave and the one at the end master..
[07:37] <cybercat101> Madpilot:Thank you!
[07:37] <zcat[1] > (I think... hopefully I didn't get it wrong)
[07:37] <wavez> Flannel, zcat[1] , thanks
[07:38] <morphinex> zcat[1] : yeah, it is set up that way
[07:38] <zcat[1] > morphinex: So even if you only have one drive, if it's on the middle connector it'll be slave.
[07:38] <cybercat101> madpilot:what was that link again I closed my IRC too quickly
[07:38] <TeePOG> morning
[07:38] <cybercat101> for skype
[07:39] <morphinex> zcat[1] : yes, I know, but the problem I am having seems to be with grub
[07:39] <zcat[1] > morphinex: weird though if bios says it's master and linux picks it up as hdb
[07:39] <Madpilot> ubotu, skype | cybercat101
[07:39] <ubotu> cybercat101: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[07:39] <leros> How do I make ubuntu use my wired connection for internet access without disabling the wireless connection?
[07:39] <TeePOG> can anyone tell me why my font size seems to be larger or smaller on alternate time that I login? yesterday my console font was small, now it's big, etc. same goes for my KDM login dialog
[07:39] <zcat[1] > morphinex: how about booting a live cd and trying dmsg ..
[07:39] <cybercat101> Madpilot:thanks
[07:39] <cybercat101> got it this time
[07:39] <Madpilot> cybercat101, np
[07:40] <pavs> how to mount an *.img file?
[07:40] <leros> can nobody help me?
[07:40] <morphinex> zcat[1] : heh, that pesents another whole round of problems - i have yet to even attempt to get the new drive and the cd-r working together
[07:40] <zcat[1] > pavs: mount -o loop file.img /mountpoint
[07:40] <pavs> zcat thanks
[07:41] <owner__> thoreauputic_:  apache is installed cuz when i try to start it again it says apache is already running
[07:41] <rbil> morphinex: where was the cdrom before?
[07:41] <pavs> zcat whats /mountpint
[07:41] <Flannel> owner__: How are you restarting it?
[07:41] <pavs> zcat whats /mountpoint
[07:41] <morphinex> rbil: it was the only device on ide1
[07:41] <zcat[1] > pavs: and empty dorectory where you want the filesystem to be mounted
[07:41] <NoWhereToTurn> also noticed that the problem entries in Grub had no "initrd /initd.." lines.. even after adding them still no change
[07:41] <pavs> ok
[07:41] <rbil> morphinex: then put it back on ide1 as master and make the new hard drive slave on ide1
[07:41] <pavs> brb
[07:42] <leros> I have a both a wired connection to my LAN and a wireless connection to a WAP, but I want ubuntu to use the wired connection for internet. How do I set that up?
[07:42] <morphinex> rbil: heh, it was jumpered as slave but the bios recognized it as master...
[07:42] <morphinex> rbil: but maybe you are right - I will try that
[07:42] <rbil> morphinex: worth a try. might work out
[07:42] <morphinex> rbil: ok, I'll give it a shot and report back - thanks foor your help
[07:43] <rbil> best of luck
[07:43] <thoreauputic> leros: network-manager-gnome should do that for you automatically - you just set it to handle both wired and wireless
[07:43] <owner__> 'yes i already restarted using sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl restart
[07:43] <cybercat101> Madpilot:can I get that link one more time for skype sorry :(
[07:43] <zcat[1] > leros: set up a default gateway on the wired connection, and none on the wireless.
[07:43] <thoreauputic> leros: when you unplug the cable it should switch to wireless and vice versa
[07:43] <Madpilot> cybercat101, try sticking not closing IRC so fast next time...
[07:43] <Madpilot> ubotu, skype | cybercat101
[07:43] <ubotu> cybercat101: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[07:44] <leros> i could not get network-manager-gnome to isntall
[07:44] <leros> maybe that is another problem in itself
[07:44] <Flannel> owner__: use  `sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart`
[07:45] <leros> i did sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome and it seemed to have installed, but when i restarted there were no noticable changes
[07:45] <thoreauputic> leros: try starting nm-applet from a terminal
[07:45] <leros> ok, let me reinstall nm
[07:45] <thoreauputic> leros: then do   sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[07:46] <leros> oh, that worked
[07:46] <leros> how do i make that start with ubunut?
[07:46] <cybercat101> madpilot:do you know how to add the skype repository
[07:46] <cybercat101> or adding repository
[07:46] <thoreauputic> leros: you need to remove all your other network configs from /etc/network/interfaces  except the loopback ( lo)
[07:46] <Madpilot> cybercat101, no idea, never bothered with skype. check the wiki, the skype article should tell you.
[07:46] <owner__> Flannel_ i just did and it still will not run
[07:46] <cybercat101> Madpilot:Ty
[07:47] <owner__> i mean load localhost
[07:47] <Flannel> owner__: does Apache start successfully?
[07:47] <pavs> i mounted an image file of an OS can I make it run without restarting the computer?
[07:47] <thoreauputic> leros: nm should start on boot automatically ( or rather, on login to gnome I think )
[07:47] <owner__> yes
[07:47] <sm0k3d> thoreauputic: thanks for your help, just wondering, do you think its bad to keep ssh on its default port 22?
[07:47] <NoWhereToTurn> .
[07:47] <leros> thoreauputic: so i just erase everything in interfaces? except lo
[07:47] <Flannel> owner__: And, you've got port 80 in Listen.conf, and haven't touched 000-default?
[07:48] <Flannel> owner__: what all have you done thus far, config file wise?
[07:48] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: no, not really - but look at tcp wrappers and the options in the sshd config to restrict access
[07:48] <Flannel> owner__: do you have apache and apache2 (or any other httpd) installed?
[07:48] <owner__> apache2
[07:48] <leros> thoreauputic: does it matter that im using beryl? would that stop it from running automatically
[07:48] <Flannel> owner__: right, but *just* apache2?
[07:48] <thoreauputic> leros: just make sure the lo is configured, yes
[07:48] <thoreauputic> leros: I don't know about beryl
[07:48] <leros> i think that might be my problem
[07:49] <leros> since that is not gnome
[07:49] <thoreauputic> leros: could be - different window manager
[07:49] <pavs> how to burn a dvd image?
[07:49] <owner__> yes with php5 and mysqlserver-5.0
[07:49] <zcat[1] > beryl breaks the inbuilt vnc server .. I guess it might break other stuff too..
[07:49] <pavs> vnc
[07:49] <Flannel> owner__: what apache config files did you edit?
[07:49] <Madpilot> pavs, in ubuntu? right-click on it, choose the 'burn to disc' option?
[07:50] <zcat[1] > !vnc
[07:50] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[07:50] <leros> thoreauputic: waht does wiping out interaces do?
[07:50] <pavs> madpilot thanks
[07:50] <owner__> apache2.conf
[07:50] <thoreauputic> leros: nm wants to do the networking - the interfaces file just confuses it :)
[07:50] <owner__> thats it
[07:51] <thoreauputic> leros: just be sure your loopback is working though - leave that stanza alone
[07:51] <Flannel> owner__: what did you change in apache2.conf? (go ahead and pastebin it)
[07:51] <leros> thoreauputic: but if nm isnt starting automatically that could cause problems
[07:51] <thoreauputic> leros: indeed :)
[07:51] <leros> is there some way to make it start with ubuntu no matter what
[07:51] <thoreauputic> leros: best to back up your config, try it and see if it "works"
[07:52] <TeePOG> if it helps, i had a problem with network cards yesterday, especially after a change of NICs ... i had to comment out the line in /etc/iftab that assigned my old MAC to eth0
[07:52] <ahave> could someone help me configure FF to play .wmv files?
[07:52] <thoreauputic> !codecs | ahave
[07:52] <zcat[1] > !codecs | ahave
[07:52] <ubotu> ahave: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:52] <ahave> thanks
[07:53] <zcat[1] > FF? Hmmmm
[07:53] <owner__> nevermind i didnt edit anything on there
[07:53] <zcat[1] > !plugins
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plugins - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <owner__> i thought i did
[07:53] <NoWhereToTurn> no suggestions re the kernel panic after updating 6.06?
[07:53] <pavs> without rebooting or shutting down is it possible to take 10GB from my ntfs partition and add it to mylinux partition?
[07:53] <leros> ok, we are restarting ubuntu now
[07:53] <owner__> do i supposed too
[07:53] <zcat[1] > Is there a page on adding media plugins to firefox?
[07:53] <spike723> so I've been tracking feisty fawn for a couple of months, now that it is released, how do I switch to tracking the stable branch?
[07:53] <zcat[1] > page/factoid/whatever?
[07:53] <Rebecca> hey. i seem to have locked up my usb system.. lsusb freezes and kill -9 won't even remove it.. anyone know how to fix without rebooting?
[07:53] <Flannel> spike723: it's not released.  It's still alpha.
[07:53] <thoreauputic> !mplayer
[07:53] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[07:53] <thoreauputic> hmm
[07:54] <rbil> zcat[1] : I'd assume that if mplayer was setup to play particular codecs, and the mplayer plugin was installed for FF, it would then work
[07:54] <zcat[1] > you'd hope so :)
[07:55] <thoreauputic> spike723: if you are tracking Feisty, it will become the stable branch :)
[07:55] <beefcake> hey all
[07:55] <thoreauputic> spike723: i.e. you don't have to change anything
[07:55] <SirOSOriS> does anyone know if you need jack to record with audacity?
[07:55] <sm0k3d> is ssh command line only?
[07:55] <zcat[1] > I find media on web pages almost never plays unless it's flash. Every site seems to wrap their clips in a popup window and three layers of redirected playlist links so it only ever works in MSIE
[07:55] <Flannel> sm0k3d: Yes.  If you want a GUi, you'll need to tunnel X through SSH
[07:55] <thoreauputic> SirOSOriS: you don't need jack to record with audacity
[07:56] <leros> thoreauputic: well, my internet works but networkmanager did not start on boot
[07:56] <ardchoille> thoreauputic: hahahaha
[07:56] <zcat[1] > But if you view source and paste the link into vlc it plays just fine
[07:56] <grEEKy> hi!
[07:56] <thoreauputic> leros: check   ps aux | grep -i network
[07:56] <SirOSOriS> thoreauputic, how do i record through my line plug? ive set line as recording device in alsamixer already and turned up the volume but i still cant hear my line in
[07:57] <thoreauputic> SirOSOriS: hmm - check your capture settings I think
[07:57] <rbil> well goodnight folks. have fun.
[07:58] <sm0k3d> flannel: if i ad tunnel X to sshd, can i use both command and GUI?
[07:58] <spike723> thoreauputic: ok I just leave feisty in my /etc/apt/sources.list?  how do I switch to running HEAD / current?
[07:58] <SirOSOriS> thoreauputic, capture settings? in alsamixer you mean? i did. where can i change capture settings?
[07:58] <thoreauputic> spike723: ?
[07:58] <SirOSOriS> i can not hear a thing from my line in thoreauputic
[07:58] <Madpilot> zcat[1] , this is because large parts of the interweb still party like it's 1997. In other words, they suck.
[07:58] <leros> thoreauputic: i lied, i just jumped the gun. network manager loaded, it just took a minute. Do i need to disable the default ubuntu manager? or should i just remove that icon from the panel?
[07:58] <thoreauputic> SirOSOriS: I do it in the gui in gnome - double click the volume applet thing
[07:58] <zcat[1] > Madpilot: they surely do..
[07:59] <thoreauputic> leros: I don't think it matters - I guess you can remove the icon
[07:59] <grEEKy> LOL
[07:59] <grEEKy> UBUNTU ROCKS!!!
[07:59] <grEEKy> :D
[07:59] <morphinex> heh
[07:59] <leros> thoreauputic: alright, thank you! i think we are working
[07:59] <grEEKy> kekekkekekek
[07:59] <SirOSOriS> ok thoreauputic thanks
[07:59] <thoreauputic> SirOSOriS: it might be under preferences - can't remember
[07:59] <SirOSOriS> ta
[07:59] <morphinex> no luck - still grub error 5
[07:59] <ardchoille> No more coffee for grEEKy
[07:59] <morphinex> in stage 1.5
[08:01] <zcat[1] > Hmm.. just rememberd a couple of things I was supposed to do before it gets dark.. catch U all later
[08:01] <grEEKy> what?
[08:01] <sm0k3d> if u use tunnel X though ssh, can a windows PC connect to my ubuntu box?
[08:01] <grEEKy> alprazolam, lorazepam, diazepam?
[08:01] <grEEKy> :E
[08:01] <a_coward> how do i reconfigure x?
[08:01] <grEEKy> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:01] <yoopernate> what is f-prot installer
[08:01] <a_coward> thanks
[08:01] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: with putty and an X server maybe :)
[08:02] <sm0k3d> thoreauputic: sounds like a lot of work... ill stick to command line =)
[08:03] <thoreauputic> sm0k3d: I don't run Windows - but you can do that kind of thing from Windows with Cygwin IIRC
[08:04] <spike723> thoreauputic: how do I switch to running the development branch of ubuntu?
[08:05] <thoreauputic> spike723: the developmant branch is Feisty currently
[08:05] <spike723> I thought feisty had branched and is now stable?
[08:05] <thoreauputic> spike723: after april it will be whatever the new name is ;)
[08:05] <thoreauputic> spike723: no, still alpha - release is in April
[08:06] <posingaspopular> spike723: documentation just finished from what i hear
[08:06] <posingaspopular> like... 5 minutes ago
[08:06] <NoWhereToTurn> 'Kernel panic - not syncing VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)' <--- after upgrading to 2.6.15-28-386  .. 2.6.15-26-386 boots fine
[08:07] <umop> How can i make gnome use icons rather than text in the default panel?
[08:07] <Flannel> spike723: No.  Feisty is still alpha.  It'll be released mid-april, it'll go beta... within the next few weeks, I believe.
[08:07] <thoreauputic> umop: gconf-editor probably
[08:07] <Flannel> !feisty | spike723
[08:07] <ubotu> spike723: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[08:08] <umop> thoreauputic, okay, Ill take look
[08:08] <spike723> is ubuntu kept in cvs, subversion, something else?
[08:09] <dooglus> spike723: no :)
[08:09] <detectiveinspekt> Hi I have a problem with nautilus using 100% cpu usage and I have no idea whats it doing.
[08:09] <dooglus> detectiveinspekt: strace knows
[08:10] <colissa> Hello
[08:10] <umop> thoreauputic, this isn't going to be simple?
[08:10] <detectiveinspekt> who is strace?
[08:10] <umop> haha
[08:10] <thoreauputic> umop: don't know - never tried it :)
[08:11] <dooglus> detectiveinspekt: it's a command
[08:11] <JoshJWeaver> Hi everyone, can I get some help getting Rhythmbox to play MP3s
[08:11] <umop> thoreauputic, :)
[08:11] <dmb062082> is the latest ubuntu Feisty Fawn stable enough to run with out major problems?
[08:11] <colissa> i'm sory i'm try to install compiz in ubunto but when i run it i stay whithout the windows menus ... someone knows why this happend?
[08:11] <eshaase> when partitioning my disk using fdisk what is the difference between W95 FAT32 and W95 FAT232 (LBA)?
[08:11] <thoreauputic> detectiveinspekt: strace is a very verbose incomprehensible lady ;p
[08:11] <shockwave1> joshjweaver: rythombox should play them with no problem
[08:12] <ramza3> ok, I figured it out; why my permissions are drwx--- blah; they are inherited from the samba server, exactly.  is there a way to override those permissions
[08:12] <shockwave1>  JoshJWeaver: you might need to make sure you have all the the formats supported
[08:12] <zackglennie__> I seem to have missed the step in setup where I define my console keymap.  I use dvorak.  Which conf file governs this?
[08:12] <bullgard1> dmb062082: Yes. It is. At least with me. And I have a new and somewhat exotic notebook.
[08:13] <thoreauputic> dmb062082: if it breaks you get to keep the pieces ;)
[08:13] <morphinex> ok, I booted from a livecd
[08:13] <fossilz> i installed mrtg but messed it up.. it wouldnt "update" so i did a apt-get remove and deleted the mrtg.cfg etc...
[08:13] <fossilz> now when i try to apt-get install it again it doesnt give new cfg files..
[08:13] <NoWhereToTurn> how can one redo the updates that Update Manager just performed but apparently not correctly?
[08:13] <posingaspopular> can you get it using aptitude
[08:13] <thoreauputic> Seveas: greetings, Seveas  :)
[08:14] <fossilz> any ideas ?
[08:14] <posingaspopular> sudo aptitude install whatever
[08:14] <posingaspopular> and if that doenst work
[08:14] <posingaspopular> then you just purge the program
[08:14] <A[D] minS> can i login into windows Domain network?
[08:14] <posingaspopular> fossilz: i was refering to you
[08:14] <A[D] minS> from Ubuntu ?
[08:14] <A[D] minS> !domain
[08:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about domain - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:14] <fossilz> ok ill try that
[08:14] <fossilz> tnx
[08:15] <posingaspopular> i duno what mtfg or whatever is
[08:15] <posingaspopular> but aptitude handles repositories better than apt-get from what ive been told by many people
[08:16] <JoshJWeaver> shockwave1: Thanks for replying, sorry went to another window. Well I read that i need to install codecs? gstreamer or something, and did that from the Package Manager, but, I don't know what I am doing, this is my 4th day in Linux
[08:18] <aozaki> is there a way to allow ubuntu to read ntfs file systems?
[08:18] <arrenlex> aozaki: Only read, or write also?
[08:18] <posingaspopular> aozaki: what do you need?
[08:18] <ramza3> when mounting with cifs/samba and mounting a network drive in my fstab; anybody know an option to override the directory permissions inherited from the network samba mount
[08:18] <aozaki> looking to write to a usb hd
[08:18] <arrenlex> !ntfs-3g | aozaki
[08:18] <ubotu> aozaki: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:19] <kenthomson> I want to know the complete process of setting up a LTSP-ed lab, with one server, and 10-thin-clients. I don't know much about hardware/linux. But i love ubuntu enough, and am ambitious/enthusiastic enough to go about this project alone. Can some of you tell me the keywords/websites/other-useful things, that i will have to research to accomplish this project? And the main things required? And is it really complex?
[08:19] <fossilz> hmm
[08:19] <fossilz> :(
[08:19] <kenthomson>  may i have a web-source/keywords/list-of-important things to consider while i go about researching for this project? maybe web-sites/google-keywords, anything? What brand hardware is supported by OS community? Intel/AMD, nvidia/ATi, soundcard, netwrok_switched/ D_link/pthers. Anything....?
[08:19] <aozaki> thanks arrenlex, i'll take a look
[08:19] <purplepenguin> I recommend Nvidia cards more
[08:20] <kenthomson> purplepenguin, that is the only thing i know at the moment ;)
[08:20] <purplepenguin> between Intel and AMD, it depends on the chipset
[08:20] <thoreauputic> KennethP: have a look at the edubuntu site
[08:20] <umop> fossilz, try a purge?
[08:20] <yoopernate> does anyone know how to get rid of the f-prot installer
[08:20] <purplepenguin> I've never had problems with Intel though
[08:20] <NoWhereToTurn> well going to call it a night.. going to see if I can reverse this screwed up update tomorrow
[08:20] <thoreauputic> bah kenthomson look at the edubuntu site for ltsp info
[08:21] <kenthomson> thoreauputic, i am surely going to do that. but i was thinking if any experiences linux_user had some tips, list-of-keywords (refer above) to tell me. You see first-hand -experience communicates more strongly than written word.
[08:22] <kenthomson> thoreauputic, purplepenguin, i am all ears
[08:22] <thoreauputic> kenthomson: try googling "remote X linux"
[08:22] <thoreauputic> kenthomson: there is also ab ltsp site of course
[08:22] <thoreauputic> *an
[08:22] <tjb13> hey guys, i have wireless working but I'm afraid that when i get back to my apartment i am going to need wpa2 and don't ahve a way to put in that key in gnome
[08:22] <JoshJWeaver> Could somebody assist me with getting my mp3 codecs installed correctly, and/or with getting access to my ntfs partition?
[08:23] <umop> JoshJWeaver, what are your problems?
[08:23] <thoreauputic> kenthomson: I have just played around a bit with remote X over ssh and xdmcp - both are quite easy to set up really
[08:23] <tjb13> hey guys, i have wireless working but I'm afraid that when i get back to my apartment i am going to need wpa2 and don't ahve a way to put in that key in gnome
[08:23] <tjb13> whats a good way to see the signal and be able to choose wireless networks
[08:23] <umop> tjb13, Try wifi-radar
[08:23] <JoshJWeaver> umop: Well, for Rhythmbox, I do need to install mp3 codecs, gstreamer(?) to play mp3s, correct?
[08:23] <tjb13> maybe a mac os x like network chooser
[08:23] <tjb13> does it work with gnome?
[08:23] <umop> tjb13, yes
[08:24] <umop> JoshJWeaver, Correct, perhaps you are missing some packages? Do you get any errors?
[08:24] <colissa> i'm having problems running direct rendering ... and i have the ati graphic card enabled ... someone knows how can i resolve this?1
[08:24] <tjb13> umop is there one that can sit in my gnome panel?
[08:24] <arrenlex> colissa: Are you trying to use fglrx?
[08:24] <tjb13> and does this and ubuntu support wpa2?
[08:24] <umop> tjb13, I think it does..
[08:24] <tjb13> hrmmm
[08:25] <kenthomson> thoreauputic, thanks! is there anything you would like to add?
[08:25] <colissa> arrenlex i'm allready using the fglrx
[08:25] <maxx18> the aussie repos seem to be going really slow (even just for reloading package info).... does anyone know if there will be any negative effects if i use the main ubuntu server in my sources.list?
[08:25] <JoshJWeaver> umop: Yes one for every song I try to put in.  I did install the gstreamer stuff that i was told to, and it didn't work, and then all the rest, still nothing.  But, I am completely new to linux, so, after I use the package manager, do I have to do anything else?
[08:25] <arrenlex> colissa: Pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log please
[08:25] <arrenlex> !pastebin | colissa
[08:25] <ubotu> colissa: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:25] <billytwowilly>  so if I want to say all ip's from <IP_ADDRESS> to 192.168.1.whatever highest number is here how would I say that in the <IP_ADDRESS>/blahblah format?
[08:25] <colissa> one minute please
[08:25] <Seveas> billytwowilly, <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[08:26] <billytwowilly> thanks
[08:26] <Differ> isn't that router?
[08:26] <qfour20> what is the recommended swap space for a machine with 2gb of ram?
[08:26] <JoshJWeaver> umop: the error I get is just saying the decoder can't be found
[08:26] <thoreauputic> kenthomson: I think the best approach might be to look at installing edubuntu - it is designed to do this more or less "out of the box" - but really you can do pretty much the same thing just with ssh -X and some configuration for login etc
[08:26] <umop> JoshJWeaver, I reccommend you search 'mp3' with the gui 'Add/Remove Applications' from the applications menu
[08:26] <arrenlex> qfour20: Shouldn't need more than 1GB or so with that much ram.
[08:26] <Seveas> qfour20, 512mb for the fun of it but with 2g you don't need swap
[08:27] <billytwowilly> Seveas: sweet, works. thanks. You wouldn't happen to know the significance of the 24 would you? I thought it wouldbe <IP_ADDRESS>/255 because I thought the last number you could get in the last spot was 255
[08:27] <kenthomson> thoreauputic, right!
[08:27] <Seveas> billytwowilly, /24 means a mask of 24 bits
[08:27] <colissa> arrenlex it says i'm try to spam o0 0o LOL
[08:27] <billytwowilly> Seveas: heh. a mask? I'll have to go look it up I think.
[08:27] <kane77> hi
[08:27] <YooperNate_> is anyone else having problems with f-prot?
[08:27] <arrenlex> colissa: What?
[08:27] <dooglus> qfour20: take the most memory you're ever going to need, subtract 2GB from that, and that's the amount of swap you need.
[08:28] <kane77> what do I use to comment stuff in /etc/netwok/interfaces?
[08:28] <dooglus> kane77: #
[08:28] <thoreauputic> kenthomson: straight remote X can be set up in gdm preferences with a few click by the way - but is much less secure of course
[08:28] <qfour20> does ubuntu benefit from having a seperate boot partition, or just throw everything on an ext3 partition and call it a day?
[08:28] <kane77> dooglus, thanx, I'm kind of used to use // :)
[08:28] <timfros1> billytwowilly: that /24 means that the first 24 bits are fixed.  Equates to a netmask of <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:28] <JoshJWeaver> umop: Okay, what am I looking for, should i go with a different player other than Rhythmbox?
[08:29] <colissa> arrenlex http://paste.uni.cc/13477 here is it :) i was say that the http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org was say that i was try to spam them when i try to input my xorg.conf
[08:29] <umop> JoshJWeaver, Rhythmbox should be fine..it will work.  You might like to try other later of course.
[08:29] <colissa> that what the server say :)
[08:29] <beuno> JoshJWeaver: I find "listen" to be very nice
[08:30] <arrenlex> colissa: Execute this:
[08:30] <kane77> dooglus, and one more question, does ubuntu bring up/down network interfaces when hibernating?
[08:30] <umop> JoshJWeaver, Now after searching, select the GStreamer extra plugins and install them
[08:30] <ahave> could someone help me getting the medibuntu repo to work/
[08:30] <dooglus> kane77: I never got it to hibernate suvccessfully, so I don't know
[08:30] <JoshJWeaver> umop: Yes, for now I am mainly concerned with learning how this all works and how to get things to work, I am surprised I got my wireless card to work and got connected to my network, after about 4 hours or so.
[08:30] <arrenlex> colissa: sudo sed -i 's/"Composite" "Enable"/Option "Composite" "Disable"/g' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:31] <umop> kane77, It seems to depend on the laptop :(
[08:31] <arooni> hey folks i'm having trouble with my synaptics touchpad..... when my laptop wakes up from hibernate it works... but when it normally boots up it doesnt
[08:31] <colissa> ok
[08:31] <kane77> umop, I mean on the desktop
[08:31] <arooni> ideas on how to get it working 100%  (i'm talking specificallya bout scrolling functionality)
[08:31] <arooni> like vertical scroll for example
[08:31] <arrenlex> colissa: Then execute this:
[08:31] <beuno> JoshJWeaver: a lot of work has been done on network (and wifi specific) in Feisty, Ubuntu's next release.  So you should have a much better expierience next time
[08:32] <arrenlex> colissa: sudo sed -i 's/Option Option/Option/g' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:32] <dooglus> arrenlex: did you install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics?
[08:32] <JoshJWeaver> umop: Oh, wow, that seems embarrassingly simple :) I had only Ubuntu stuff showing.  So, when I install package with the manager, does that only put the install files onto my computer, but not actually install them then?
[08:32] <arrenlex> dooglus: ?
[08:32] <tjb13_> hey guys how do you add network-manager-gnome to your panel
[08:32] <colissa> ok
[08:32] <dooglus> sorry, wrong person...
[08:32] <arooni> dooglus: are you talking to me?
[08:32] <dooglus> arooni: did you - yes...
[08:32] <arrenlex> colissa: Then restart X. If it still doesn't work, pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:33] <umop> JoshJWeaver, They will be installed :)
[08:33] <arooni> dooglus: i'm not sure... let me try pasting in your command
[08:33] <eshaase> how come when i do a 'sudo pvcreate /dev/hda7 && sudo pvdisplay' it shows my pv at /dev/evms/hda7 instead of /dev/hda7?
[08:33] <dooglus> arooni: the command is:   sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[08:33] <colissa> arrenlex done
[08:33] <arrenlex> colissa: Does it work?
[08:33] <arooni> dooglus: says i already have latest version.... i also have 'qsynatpics' installed too
[08:33] <colissa> no
[08:33] <dooglus> ok
[08:33] <kane77> umop, I have vnstat measuring my internet communication (data transfered) and when I hibernate it adds couple of GBs (!!!) to it.. I wrote to the writer of vnstat and he said that it depends on whether ubuntu brigs interfaces up/down or just cold power off...
[08:34] <arrenlex> colissa: Pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log then
[08:34] <arooni> dooglus: but i still cant get vertical scroll workng consistently
[08:34] <ahave> what public key does medibuntu require? i seem to have the wrong one
[08:34] <dooglus> arooni: it works sometimes?
[08:35] <arooni> dooglus: yes it does... but now it doesnt :(
[08:35] <umop> kane77, Oh wow.. I thought it took down the network devices, perhaps not
[08:35] <beefcake69> hello, can someone please give me some ideas on how to fix a problem im having with ubuntu
[08:35] <arrenlex> !ask | beefcake
[08:35] <ubotu> beefcake: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:35] <dooglus> beefcake69: reboot?
[08:35] <beefcake69> thank you
[08:35] <Differ> lol.
[08:35] <thoreauputic> ;p
[08:35] <beefcake69> tried that
[08:35] <dooglus> heh
[08:35] <Differ> Unix manuals are 60 kg, not 50 kg
[08:36] <thoreauputic> Differ: and up, yeah :)
[08:36] <beefcake69> yesterday I installed beryl as a service to start with gnome
[08:36] <kane77> umop, there is no real traffic, but when you resume vnstat assumes there the counters have rolled over...
[08:36] <beefcake69> its causing issues, so how do I prevent it from starting
[08:36] <beefcake69> I can log into recovery mode
[08:36] <colissa> arrenlex http://paste.uni.cc/13478 when type glxinfo |grep direct rendering says ... -> grep: rendering: No such file or directory -> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:36] <JoshJWeaver> What do all the different colors of names mean?
[08:36] <arooni> dooglus: any suggestions
[08:36] <beefcake69> what do I need to do from there please :P
[08:37] <posingaspopular> JoshJWeaver: nothinf
[08:37] <posingaspopular> they are completly random i think
[08:37] <arrenlex> colissa: Wrong file. I asked for /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:37] <posingaspopular> on my screen you are pink, i am black
[08:37] <posingaspopular> etc
[08:37] <colissa> o0 0o sorry :X
[08:37] <dooglus> arooni: no, I've never seen an intermittant problem with a synaptics touchpad.  im my experience they work or they don't
[08:37] <JoshJWeaver> I've noticed everyone saying JoshJWeaver: in the beginning has brown/tan names
[08:37] <ahave> what public key does medibuntu require? i seem to have the wrong one
[08:37] <JoshJWeaver> posingaspopular: No color change here?
[08:37] <posingaspopular> nope
[08:37] <arrenlex> JoshJWeaver: Your IRC client is doing that to make sure you see those messages.
[08:38] <posingaspopular> JoshJWeaver: but when you pick someone out the text turns red. see?
[08:38] <thoreauputic> JoshJWeaver: it's configurable - and one colour is used fro nick highlighting
[08:38] <arrenlex> JoshJWeaver: That's why you always prefix messages with the nick of who you're speaking to. All IRC clients do that.
[08:38] <arrenlex> !who | JoshJWeaver
[08:38] <Differ> lol.
[08:38] <ubotu> JoshJWeaver: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[08:38] <posingaspopular> as oposed to regular stuff
[08:38] <arooni> dooglus: should i only have qsynaptics or the xorg thing installed?  maybe its geting confused
[08:38] <arrenlex> !prefix | JoshJWeaver
[08:38] <Differ> red waterfall
[08:38] <ubotu> JoshJWeaver: If you prefix your lines with the nickname of the person you're talking to, you have a greater chance that that person reads your messages
[08:38] <qfour20> I must say, I read a thread today on the ubuntu forums... I can't decide if the people answering questions are saints or massochists.  Amazingly supportive community.  UbuntuDupe would have been torn to shreds in some other community support forums (for good reason).
[08:38] <Differ> imagine what JoshJWeaver must be seeing
[08:38] <Differ> as JoshJWeaver's name is coming up everywhere
[08:39] <JoshJWeaver> arrenlex: This is my first time connecting to an IRC chat, except like 5 minutes before when I first got it connected
[08:39] <Kiongku> Hi, can someone paste bin his default /boot/grub/menu.lst and show me?
[08:39] <colissa> arrenlex http://paste.uni.cc/13479
[08:39] <arrenlex> qfour20: Yeah, that's why I hang out here despite the fact that I don't run Ubuntu. :) Great community. Love helping here.
[08:39] <dooglus> arooni: I uninstall anything with a 'q' in its name as a matter of course
[08:39] <thoreauputic> qfour20: or saints AND masochists ;p
[08:39] <arrenlex> colissa: You didn't restart X after making that change.
[08:39] <qfour20> hey, grub syntax for hdd would be hd3, right?
[08:39] <dooglus> ahave: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg ?
[08:39] <JoshJWeaver> !who | umop
[08:39] <ubotu> umop: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[08:39] <JoshJWeaver> hmm
[08:39] <JoshJWeaver> worked real well :)
[08:40] <colissa> arrenlex ermmm o0 0o you right o0 0o sorry one secound :x
[08:40] <JoshJWeaver> I'll hopefully figure it out over time and read stuff online, thanks everyone!
[08:40] <beefcake69> any suggestion? :P
[08:41] <JoshJWeaver> Yay music!
[08:41] <ahave> dooglus, what do i do with that?
[08:41] <umop> JoshJWeaver, good work!
[08:42] <knoppix_> Hi I was here a few hours ago.. Running Knoppix Live CD trying to copy contents of one NTFS drive to another NTFS drive, getting an error saying "can't create folder, /media/sbd1/BACKUP/Catalogue" can anyone please help me?
[08:42] <bu2> Has anyone used the PEAR command-line installer? I am trying to install PHP OpenID library, but it only says how to do it with PEAR.
[08:42] <qfour20> knoppix_: was disk sbd1 mounted as read only?
[08:42] <thoreauputic> knoppix_: by default, ntfs is read only in linux
[08:43] <bu2> !ntfs
[08:43] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:43] <knoppix_> !ntfs
[08:43] <umop> bu2, why not install pear?
[08:43] <bu2> how do i?
[08:43] <knoppix_> Ok so where/how can I change the permissions to read and write?
[08:43] <ahave> dooglus, i am trying to follow these directions: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php   but what/where is the sources.list file?
[08:43] <bu2> I can't find it in the repositories
[08:43] <dooglus> ahave: you wget -q http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[08:43] <bu2> !fuse
[08:43] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:43] <dooglus> ahave: it's in /etc/at
[08:44] <dooglus> sorry
[08:44] <thoreauputic> knoppix_: you can't - but you can use ntfs-3g ( I don't know if knoppix includes that)
[08:44] <dooglus> /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:44] <colissa> arrenlex http://paste.uni.cc/13480
[08:44] <umop> bu2, php-pear
[08:44] <colissa> arrenlex hummmmmmm :)
[08:44] <bu2> thanks
[08:45] <thoreauputic> !ntfs-3g | knoppix_
[08:45] <ubotu> knoppix_: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:45] <arrenlex> colissa: Progress!  :X
[08:46] <ahave> dooglus, the command you gave me returned 'OK' yet i still have the problem
[08:46] <arrenlex> colissa: Do this: sudo wget http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8001/libGL.so.1.2 -O/usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[08:46] <ahave> dooglus, i also do not have an /etc/at dir
[08:46] <arrenlex> colissa: Then do this: sudo ldconfig
[08:46] <arooni> dooglus: so now i managed to get it so i couldnt see the preferences => touchpad
[08:46] <arrenlex> colissa: Then restart X and try again.
[08:46] <colissa> ok
[08:46] <arooni> even though i installed xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[08:47] <arooni> how can i refresh my system => preferencees view
[08:47] <arooni> to show touchpad?
[08:47] <colissa> arrenlex i type glxinfo | grep rendering and it allready say direct rendering: Yes :X
[08:47] <arrenlex> colissa: Please paste the entire output of glxinfo | grep render
[08:48] <lori> hi all, i have some networking questions
[08:48] <dobblego> is there a way of forcing a user to change their password on next login?
[08:48] <colissa> arrenlex direct rendering: Yes ->  GLX_ATI_pixel_format_float, GLX_ATI_render_texture -> OpenGL renderer string: Radeon X1600 Series Generic
[08:48] <lori> ttfn
[08:49] <bullgard1> I want irssi to display received text starting at column 14. Thus i put into file  /home/detlef/.irssi/default.theme the line 'indent = 14'. I issued the command  '/reload'. I cannot see any effect of my action. What went wrong?
[08:49] <arrenlex> colissa: Hmm. I'm still fairly certain you don't have hardware accelerated rendering.
[08:49] <arrenlex> (EE) AIGLX error: dlsym for __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 failed (/usr/lib/dri/fglrx_dri.so: undefined symbol: __driCreateNewScreen_20050727) (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
[08:50] <arrenlex> colissa: I think you should still run my command. Direct rendering isn't the same as 3D acceleration.
[08:50] <ramza3> well these are some strange file permissions: ?--------- ? ? ? ?                ? NewMarTransfer/.
[08:50] <colissa> arrenlex well this is one ati  radeon x1600 from ... gigabyte :\
[08:50] <colissa> shure one minut please
[08:51] <thoreauputic> bullgard1: try #irssi maybe
[08:51] <bullgard1> thoreauputic: #irssi is a lame duck.
[08:52] <thoreauputic> bullgard1: really? I got help there several times
[08:53] <bullgard1> Me too. Still. There is almost no traffic over the day.
[08:53] <arrenlex> colissa: sudo ldconfig and Restart X.
[08:53] <colissa> ok
[08:53] <ahave> if i installed a kde addon for my ubuntu distro, how can i remove it now?
[08:54] <cjvail13> i am hoping that someone can help me i need to change my screen resolution but the three options it gives me are not the one that i need
[08:54] <beefcake> hello all any ideas on my problem with beryl?
[08:55] <Differ> um
[08:55] <Differ> I think people are sleeping
[08:55] <beefcake> maybe :P
[08:55] <omeil> im not
[08:56] <omeil> :)
[08:56] <omeil> im ALIVE
[08:56] <posingaspopular> no
[08:56] <Differ> and I'm really a newb.
[08:56] <posingaspopular> studying
[08:56] <beefcake> I really want to try and fix this rather than having to reinstall
[08:56] <beefcake> or go back to windoze
[08:56] <omeil> could always dual boot
[08:56] <posingaspopular> beefcake: try #beryl
[08:56] <posingaspopular> or ubuntu-effects
[08:56] <posingaspopular> i dont use beryl
[08:56] <omeil> thts what im doing except i haven't even gone into windoze yet lol
[08:56] <posingaspopular> non free
[08:56] <colissa> arrenlex done it
[08:56] <arrenlex> colissa: New /var/log/Xorg.0.log please
[08:57] <omeil> anyone here play WoW on a private server or am i the only cheap skate here?
[08:57] <omeil> although i just finished school and have no job :).
[08:57] <p00f> is nvidia 6600, a geforce 6 series? TIA
[08:57] <arrenlex> omeil: This breaking news live from your parents' basement?
[08:58] <yomm> lol
[08:58] <arooni> how do i list all running processes
[08:58] <colissa> arrenlex http://paste.uni.cc/13481
[08:59] <Differ> sinoyster: what's giong on?
[08:59] <p00f> arooni, type TOP in a console window
[08:59] <p00f> top i mean
[08:59] <arrenlex> colissa: Hehe... same error. What version of fglrx do you have?
[08:59] <arooni> p00f: thats not all of them
[08:59] <colissa> well the ubuntu version :x i think
[08:59] <arooni> i did ps -e -l
[08:59] <arooni> but the thing is... how can i grep on that
[09:00] <arooni> i tried to do.... ps -e -l |
[09:00] <arooni> grep server
[09:00] <arooni> it didnt work
[09:00] <arrenlex> colissa: Oh, duh. Aiglx doesn't work with fglrx. Dunno what I was thinking.
[09:00] <xerophyte> does anybody know any site which list all the new books published each month which is related linux?
[09:00] <omeil> arrenlex: na :) in my room
[09:01] <colissa> arrenlex lol and the compiz?!
[09:01] <omeil> arrenlex: been applying for jobs but, it's kinda hard to get a job here since i live 100k
[09:01] <omeil> away from city
[09:01] <omeil> in australia :)
[09:01] <arrenlex> colissa: You need xgl for compiz under fglrx.
[09:01] <Lynoure> xerophyte: haven't heard of any site doing that. But searching weekly at some huge online bookstore might catch most of them.
[09:01] <yomm> down unda'
[09:01] <arrenlex> omeil: They have jobs in australia?
[09:01] <arrenlex> omeil: They have cities in austrailia?
[09:02] <arooni> how can i 'search' ps
[09:02] <omeil> arrenlex: lol :D. i live in the country so its kinda hard to get jobs
[09:02] <arooni> for a specific name of a process
[09:02] <Differ> omeil: there are people in Australia?
[09:02] <arrenlex> Exactly!
[09:02] <colissa> arrenlex so only nvidia works form compiz and xgl?!
[09:02] <yomm> omeil : so you are running UBUSHTU ?
[09:02] <Differ> omeil: there's a country called Australia?
[09:02] <ahave> if i installed a kde addon for my ubuntu distro, how can i remove it now?
[09:02] <arrenlex> colissa: In order to use compiz: nvidia->aiglx, ati->xgl
[09:02] <omeil> lol
[09:03] <kane77> omeil, hey man you're popular!! :)
[09:03] <arrenlex> !xgl | colissa
[09:03] <ubotu> colissa: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:03] <omeil> LOL
[09:03] <arrenlex> colissa: At least it'll be easy to install now that your rendering is working. :)
[09:03] <arrenlex> colissa: They can help you better in #ubuntu-effects with xgl problems.
[09:04] <omeil> i was born here but im actually maltese tho :). so im a european aussie lol
[09:04] <colissa> arrenlex shure thanks :) you was one greta help to be i have try to fix this for a days lol :) thanks
[09:05] <mneptok> hehehe. Malta.
[09:05] <omeil> yup
[09:05] <arrenlex> colissa: yw. Good luck.
[09:05] <nutterpc> lol
[09:05] <colissa> lol thanks :)
[09:05] <mneptok> another Maltese IRC user i know complains about the "frigid" 10C temps
[09:05] <mneptok> (-25C here, ATM)
[09:05] <omeil> ouch
[09:06] <nutterpc> I love the cold weather
[09:06] <nutterpc> and yes, I'm aussie as well
[09:06] <omeil> australia is always hot as hell damn it lol
[09:06] <mneptok> nutterpc: FYI, nowhere in Oz gets "cold"
[09:06] <mneptok> "chilly" maybe.
[09:06] <arooni> is there a 'cleartype' for ubuntu
[09:06] <nutterpc> lol
[09:06] <arrenlex> omeil: sed 's/hot as//g'
[09:06] <qfour20> I'm in the "manual partition" screen while trying to install ubuntu and i have "/" assigned to the slice of disk that I want to install ubuntu onto and I get an error "No root file system"
[09:06] <omeil> not bad today tho
[09:07] <omeil> sometimes you wakeup sticking to your bed lol
[09:07] <omeil> nutterpc: you play negames?
[09:07] <nutterpc> omeil: sorta........depends on the mood
[09:08] <omeil> nutterpc: any free games?
[09:08] <knoppix_> !ntfs-3g
[09:08] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[09:08] <nutterpc> omeil: not really
[09:08] <omeil> nutterpc: what are the most played?
[09:09] <nutterpc> arcade games
[09:09] <omeil> oh lol
[09:09] <omeil> so emulation?
[09:09] <nutterpc> no, actual arcade games :P
[09:09] <omeil> :P
[09:09] <omeil> he everyone likes mame
[09:09] <omeil> hey*
[09:09] <omeil> :P
[09:10] <qfour20> hahahaha
[09:10] <qfour20> "life is too short to run gentoo"
[09:10] <omeil> yea i just saw that aswell :D
[09:10] <omeil> oh i needs a restart :) updated
[09:10] <qfour20> worse yet
[09:10] <qfour20> "life is too short to support a production workload on gentoo."
[09:12] <qfour20> so, anybody know what might cause the installer to complain to me "No root file system" when I'm trying to install with "custom partitioning"?
[09:12] <posingaspopular> qfour20: yes
[09:12] <posingaspopular> its a known bug
[09:12] <posingaspopular> let me pull up the bug report
[09:12] <qfour20> excellent.  I'm not alone.
[09:13] <posingaspopular> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/67130
[09:13] <posingaspopular> i duno if this is the same thing as what you have
[09:13] <posingaspopular> but i had the same issue a month or so back
[09:13] <posingaspopular> and that bug report was the solution
[09:13] <posingaspopular> im pretty sure its fixed in feisty
[09:13] <santi> hi guys and girls
[09:13] <chindu> hi - i've recently started using ubuntu and am trying to grep some specific users out of an ISA 2004 w3c log. That works fine but the problem I get is the file is no longer readable by the analysis software. I was wondering if it was something to do with the character encoding being different. I'm kind of out of ideas.......any ideas would be great!
[09:14] <JoshJWeaver> Where is a good spot for me to read online so I can understand the difference between KDE and Gnome and what changes are made when I change them, like why is Kubuntu different if it's just a different GUI?
[09:14] <mneptok> chindu: what is this "analysis software?"
[09:15] <posingaspopular> !gnome
[09:15] <yomm> a
[09:15] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[09:15] <posingaspopular> !kde
[09:15] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[09:15] <qfour20> JoshJWeaver: you like soda?  Do you drink coke?  Mountain Dew?  Perrier?  They are all carbonated (and mostly sweetened) beverages.
[09:15] <qfour20> Some are sweetned more than others, some have preservatives, etc.  Window managers are very similar.
[09:15] <JoshJWeaver> qfour20: I have a mt dew can right here, I love soda
[09:16] <posingaspopular> haah
[09:16] <ahave> how can i remove the kde addon?
[09:16] <cappychan> chindu: do you know about the differences between windows and linux line breaks?
[09:16] <posingaspopular> just remember that GNOME sucks
[09:16] <mneptok> posingaspopular: stop trolling
[09:16] <slv> why does gnome suck
[09:16] <american> How do I see the MB size of a directory in terminal?
[09:16] <JoshJWeaver> So if I don't have KDE installed, can I not use programs like KStars and stuff, because Gnome wont understand them?
[09:17] <mneptok> american: du -h /path/to
[09:17] <american> thanks
[09:17] <mneptok> JoshJWeaver: nope, you can use them fine.
[09:17] <santi> i configured xorg.conf to run with fglrx driver. I have ATI X600.Exist another config that use xserver for run ? coz i cant run with direct rendering. Anyone know it ?
[09:17] <american> I tried ls -la, but it didn't help.  I couldn't understand the "size"
[09:17] <mneptok> american: du -h /path/to
[09:18] <SJ2000> Ubuntu Installer crashed and has now trashed my partitions
[09:18] <JoshJWeaver> mneptok: Oh, so, I don't get it.  I'll have to read about them to get my head around them, because all I can understand from what I've seen is they are like different themes or skins for Ubuntu
[09:18] <mneptok> JoshJWeaver: not at all.
[09:18] <knoppix_> hi can someone please help me. i am really struggling with using ntfs-3g. i just want to copy the contents of one drive to another and then format that one drive to ex3.
[09:18] <qfour20> JoshJWeaver: not quite true, but i can see where teh idea would come from
[09:19] <knoppix_> i have read loads of tutorials and faqs etc but i am not gripping it.
[09:19] <slv> maybe more like types of tableclothes, that come with their own sets of silverware and flatware
[09:19] <mneptok> JoshJWeaver: a theme is an appearance. the GNOME/KDE differences go deeper than appearance.
[09:19] <JoshJWeaver> I didn't think that was it, but that's all that I have been able to understand from what i have read
[09:19] <qfour20> JoshJWeaver: essentially, they're complete implementations of a "window Manager" idea
[09:19] <qfour20> JoshJWeaver: you have X, which is the actual graphical display
[09:19] <JoshJWeaver> That's why I wanted to find a good site to read about it before i ask such dumb questiosn
[09:19] <qfour20> JoshJWeaver: just screen at a particular resolution and a mouse and keyboard
[09:19] <JoshJWeaver> ya
[09:20] <qfour20> JoshJWeaver: then you have "gnome" or "kde" or "xfce" or "joe'smomma"
[09:20] <qfour20> JoshJWeaver: that put together their particular ideas of how a "desktop" should behave, and they usually have a themed set of tools to use that are bundled together
[09:20] <mneptok> JoshJWeaver: i think it's safe to say that "if you don't understand the difference betwwen a window manager and a desktop environment, and you also don't easily grasp the differences between them you're *FAR* too early in your *nix career to care about such things."
[09:21] <slv> just use blackbox
[09:21] <kraut> moin
[09:21] <qfour20> mneptok: true, but it bodes well for his *nix career that he's curious enough to ask
[09:21] <knoppix_> in ntfs-3g i am getting the error:  fusermount: failed to access mountpoint /mnt/windows: No such file or directory
[09:21] <poningru> jeez guys can we keep the arguing to a low
[09:21] <knoppix_> any idea wtf i am doing wrong?
[09:21] <mneptok> qfour20: yeah, but let's start at the beginning. ;)
[09:22] <poningru> knoppix_: yeah make a directry /mnt/windows
[09:22] <h1st0> knoppix_: maybe /mnt/windows doesn't exist
[09:22] <JoshJWeaver> Well I am a very experienced PC user, but I have never had a chance to use Linux before, so I really know nothing about it
[09:22] <chindu> hi mneptok - am using WebSpy
[09:22] <SJ2000> How on earth did Ubuntu mess up my Windows installation when I *tried* to install it on an entirely different harddrive?
[09:22] <poningru> knoppix_: go into terminal and 'mkdir /mnt/windows' if that doesnt work add a sudo to the front
[09:22] <qfour20> JoshJWeaver: there is no choice that you make right now that can't be modified or worked around later
[09:22] <h1st0> knoppix_: perhaps try creating it or creating /media/windows and mounting there.  ITs up to you.
[09:22] <mneptok> JoshJWeaver: that makes you an experienced *Windows* user, not PC user. ;)
[09:22] <slv> josh, at this point don't worry about them, just use gnome
[09:22] <tieTYT2> if i use sysctl -w will the setting be saved on restart?
[09:22] <chindu> cappychan: chindu: do you know about the differences between windows and linux line breaks? - no sorry I don't
[09:22] <Telep> lollerispolleris
[09:22] <qfour20> JoshJWeaver: just pick one that looks good to you and get started
[09:22] <tieTYT2> or is there some config file i'm supposed to save it in?
[09:22] <Telep> oops, wrong channel, again
[09:23] <JoshJWeaver> Ok, well, Very experience windows, moderately experienced PC user, I've been to ITT Tech and used computers since I was 3 and know how they all work inside
[09:23] <mneptok> chindu: what is WebSpy?
[09:23] <JoshJWeaver> Did not graduate ITT Tech though, so, I'm not really bragging too much about that
[09:23] <slv> lol
[09:23] <american> I know command line commands in Debian are very powerful.  How would I fine out the size of all the documents with a specific extention, like .doc, in a given directory tree.  I need to backup all the .doc files in "my documents" on an NTFS partition.
[09:23] <slv> couldn't get past the class on desktop environments? ;-) j/k
[09:23] <chindu> mneptok - it's a windows based bit  of log analysis software
[09:23] <JoshJWeaver> Anyway I wont even bother saying I'm smart cause you all know more than me I'm pretty sure, especially in this environment
[09:24] <h1st0> JoshJWeaver: Well if you want a windows friendly environment KDE is nice.  But you should be able to manage with gnome.
[09:24] <mneptok> JoshJWeaver: perspective? when i was 3 we hadn't landed on the moon yet. ;)
[09:24] <qfour20> chindu: you tried unix2dos for the file?
[09:24] <arooni> how can i play back *wmv files in firefox
[09:24] <cappychan> chindu: on windows the line breaks (your ENTER button) are the characters CR LF, and on linux they are only LF
[09:24] <h1st0> american: you just want to list them all or find the size of them all?
[09:24] <JoshJWeaver> What I want is to actually learn how linux works and everything, and not have to rely on a GUI at all if I don't have to
[09:24] <mneptok> chindu: Windows is going to have issues with the line breaks in files generated on Unix(like) systems.
[09:24] <qfour20> chindu: taking a wild guess, i'd say sudo apt-get install unix2dos (or dostools or dosutils or some such)
[09:24] <arooni> also hwo can i do it when theyre on the desktop
[09:24] <chindu> hi qfour20 - not tried that - will have a read up on it.
[09:25] <american> Total size and list.  Individual size is unimportant.
[09:25] <SJ2000> Windows Wordpad likes Linux breaks
[09:25] <JoshJWeaver> But i'm just so accustomed to visually seeing everything, doing it all by typing is kinda weird to get used to. But I set up my wireless network by myself, mostly, so I'm getting there slowly
[09:25] <SJ2000> Unless you have Vista...
[09:25] <american> thanks for the help
[09:25] <thoreauputic> american: total size   -    du -sh *.doc
[09:25] <mneptok> chindu: also, the default UTF encoding in Ubuntu might not play well with Windows' archaic ISOLatin
[09:25] <chindu> wordpad will handle the line breaks ok but trouble is i'm starting with a 15Gb log file and grepping it down to 1Gb
[09:25] <thoreauputic> american: in the folder concerned of course
[09:25] <umop> JoshJWeaver, checkout http://art.gnome.org/
[09:26] <h1st0> thoreauputic: wont' that won't show him recursive .docs
[09:26] <mneptok> JoshJWeaver: http://www.amazon.com/Bash-Z-Shell-Conquering-Command/dp/1590593766/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-6989673-7653633?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1173169595&sr=8-1
[09:27] <thoreauputic> h1st0: hmm you might have a point there...
[09:27] <h1st0> thoreauputic: I think he is trying to search the whole windows partition for *.doc
[09:27] <SJ2000> I've found a bug in Ubuntu's installer, where is the tracker for that?
[09:27] <JoshJWeaver> Thank you both
[09:27] <arooni> how can i play back *wmv files in firefox
[09:27] <qfour20> chindu: apparently there's a different utility called "tofrodos"  try sudo apt-get install tofrodos
[09:27] <qfour20> chindu: i'm installing now to take a peek
[09:27] <cappychan> hah you beat me to it qfour20
[09:28] <thoreauputic> american:  the total size of a directory without listing is given by  du -sh
[09:28] <h1st0> american: something like ls -R /media/windows/*.doc
[09:28] <h1st0> I'm not sure what hte switch is for du to use it like that.
[09:28] <mneptok> american: sudo updatedb && locate .doc
[09:28] <thoreauputic> h1st0: that's a listing, yes
[09:28] <cappychan> chindu: once you have it installed you can do a "dos2unix logfile.log"
[09:28] <riaal> morning, where do I link to my alias file to make my alias permanent? (forgot)
[09:28] <chindu> qfour20 / cappychan - will have a read up on that. Thanks very much!
[09:29] <thoreauputic> riaal: usually ~/.bashrc
[09:29] <qfour20> chindu: todos filename << that should do it for ya
[09:29] <riaal> thoreauputic, great, thanks
[09:29] <h1st0> mneptok: locate won't search a mounted part.
[09:29] <thoreauputic> h1st0: umm, yes it will
[09:29] <chindu> qfour20 - is "todos" part of "tofrodos"
[09:30] <TM|AMD64> Hey all. I need help.
[09:30] <h1st0> thoreauputic: yeah if you configure it differently
[09:30] <thoreauputic> h1st0: did you mean a temporarily mounted part?
[09:30] <SJ2000> AHHHH! Ubuntu has totally trashed my partitions!
[09:30] <h1st0> thoreauputic: well my locate database doesn't containt the contents of /media/windows
[09:30] <SJ2000> It now can't even recognise them
[09:30] <qfour20> chindu: yes, it installs to and from utilities
[09:30] <nalpha> my usb device not recognized anyone can help me?
[09:30] <thoreauputic> SJ2000: that is extremely unlikely - I suggest you might have trashed them :)
[09:30] <nalpha> i'm try to use usb mouse and flash disk..
[09:30] <chindu> cool - just apt-getting it now. thank you.
[09:31] <SJ2000> It trashed my entire RAID
[09:31] <nalpha> last it can.. but after i restart in yesterday it won't work again.
[09:31] <SJ2000> How the heck could it do that?
[09:31] <h1st0> hrm.. how to do this.
[09:31] <american> Here's the deal:::  Computer won't boot.  Crashes at Mup.exe.  Safemode won't even start.  I am using Ubuntu LIVECD to talk to you now.  I am going to reinstall the whole thing.  It isn't my computer.  I want to email off the *.doc files if possible.  There is no space to install Ubuntu.  NTFS is taking the whole drive and it won't resize.  I have to use emule to download some of the specific programs the owner wants to have installed, cause no CD's exis
[09:32] <TM|AMD64> UBUNTU LIVE CD WON'T BOOT!
[09:32] <TM|AMD64> What do I do?
[09:32] <thoreauputic> !caps
[09:32] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[09:32] <SJ2000> Check Bios settings for CD
[09:32] <posingaspopular> what do you mean it won't boot? wheredoes it stop?
[09:32] <TM|AMD64> yeah, it's all set.
[09:32] <TM|AMD64> 98se CD boots, but the live CD don't work.
[09:33] <SJ2000> Does it get past Splash screen after the ubuntu menu? Or does it even show up the menu?
[09:33] <h1st0> TM|AMD64: Well did you check the media?
[09:33] <TM|AMD64> yep.,
[09:33] <qfour20> does it boot in another computer?
[09:33] <TM|AMD64> nope.
[09:34] <h1st0> TM|AMD64: Have you tried booting with noapic options?
[09:34] <TM|AMD64> if I don't use the startup floppy disk, it tries to boot from the cd's, then fails, THEN loads 98se.
[09:34] <h1st0> TM|AMD64: Ahh you need to change the bios so that cdrom is bootable first.
[09:34] <SJ2000> You are using an AMD64 right?
[09:34] <TM|AMD64> yep.
[09:34] <TM|AMD64> :)
[09:34] <riaal> do I need to relog to make changes in bashrc "work"? or is there some other way?
[09:34] <h1st0> TM|AMD64: Well then you haven't checked the media.  Were did you get the iso from?
[09:35] <american> Re-burn the CD TM|AMD64
[09:35] <american> :D
[09:35] <qfour20> riaal: kill -HUP the pid of the shell you're in
[09:35] <h1st0> american: I'm still trying to figure out a way to search the entire drive for .doc
[09:35] <riaal> qfour20, ?
[09:35] <TM|AMD64> Aust. PC User April '07.
[09:35] <h1st0> american: SOmeone else here might know of a better way.
[09:35] <american> thanks
[09:35] <TM|AMD64> v6.10
[09:35] <corevette> how do i grant myself read/write access to a folder?
[09:35] <riaal> qfour20,  whats -HUP flag?
[09:35] <thoreauputic> riaal:  source ~/.bashrc
[09:35] <qfour20> riaal: "hang up"
[09:35] <SJ2000> Anyway where was is the bug tracker for the Ubuntu installer
[09:35] <h1st0> mneptok: do you know how american could search his entire windows partition for .doc files?  locate won't search it.
[09:35] <american> chown?
[09:36] <qfour20> although thoreauputic's method is cleaner, i would guess
[09:36] <thoreauputic> qfour20: that's a bazooka approach :)
[09:36] <qfour20> pointed at my foot, no less.  my standard modus operandi
[09:36] <thoreauputic> kill -HUP is a bit extreme :)
[09:36] <h1st0> corevette: chown or chmod it.
[09:36] <h1st0> corevette: which folder do you want to change?
[09:36] <TM|AMD64> The board boots from OTHER bootable CD's, but NOT this one........
[09:36] <riaal> thoreauputic, do I need to kill it first?
[09:36] <thoreauputic> riaal: no
[09:37] <SJ2000> TM|AMD64: What software did you burn it with
[09:37] <h1st0> TM|AMD64: Yeah there is a problem with the cd.
[09:37] <qfour20> sounds like a bad cd.  have you considered counseling?
[09:37] <qfour20> did it have a rough childhood?
[09:37] <thoreauputic> riaal: just type  source ~/.bashrc
[09:37] <h1st0> TM|AMD64: You may need to burn ig again try at a slower speed.
[09:37] <TM|AMD64> lol.
[09:37] <TM|AMD64> ok.
[09:37] <h1st0> TM|AMD64: I would suggest like 4x
[09:37] <corevette> h1st0 /media/ipod-1/usr/lib
[09:37] <riaal> thoreauputic, nothing is hapening, maby my aliases thats messed up, one sec
[09:38] <thoreauputic> riaal: nothing will appear to happen
[09:38] <h1st0> corevette: why do you need to change that directories read/write?
[09:38] <american> Again, I am on Ubuntu Live, mounted hda1 at /home/ubuntu/Desktop/hda1/
[09:38] <h1st0> corevette: oh its a mount.
[09:38] <riaal> thoreauputic, I know but the aliases isn't loaded
[09:38] <TM|AMD64> what does the bios open to load everything. E.G. Win98SE opens COMMAND.COM first, the HIMEM, etc.
[09:38] <american> I think "locate" worked?  unsure
[09:38] <thoreauputic> riaal: but your aliases should now work unless you made a mistake entering them in .bashrc
[09:38] <h1st0> american: did you just locate .doc
[09:38] <riaal> thoreauputic,  hm.. ?
[09:38] <thoreauputic> riaal: I just append aliases in the file itself
[09:39] <american> no.  I did sudo updatedb && locate *.doc
[09:39] <r4nge> is c++ used for any linux programs or is most c?  just browsing the source code for most shell utilities and everything is c
[09:39] <h1st0> american: cuz when I do that it only searches my linux drive.
[09:39] <riaal> thoreauputic, I put them in a separet file
[09:39] <thoreauputic> riaal: then you need to source that file in ~/.bashrc
[09:39] <h1st0> corevette: What is moutnign yoru ipod there? some software?
[09:39] <american> How would I output "sudo updatedb && locate *.doc" to a file?
[09:39] <h1st0> corevette: Because you should actually change the optoins when its being mounted so you can read/write there.
[09:39] <SJ2000> Can someone give me a link to a recovery guide after a failed Ubuntu install?
[09:40] <corevette> h1st0 first off.....its ipod linux...second off...what is it
[09:40] <umop> how do I remove the file size limiations on my ext3 partititons
[09:40] <posingaspopular> !install
[09:40] <h1st0> american: >
[09:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:40] <omeil> can someone help me install cdemu? i seem to be getting an error when i type make
[09:40] <SJ2000> thankyou
[09:40] <h1st0> american: locate *.doc > list.txt
[09:40] <riaal> thoreauputic, think I did, there was alredy a commented link, so I just uncommented it
[09:40] <h1st0> american: you only need to updatedb once that just updates the database
[09:40] <omeil> !paste
[09:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:41] <thoreauputic> riaal: *shrug* I just add all my aliases to the file at the bottom of ~/.bashrc
[09:41] <Joshooa> Would anyone recommend the official Ubuntu book, or is it not too good, just okay? Anyone know?
[09:41] <corevette> h1st0...so are you able to tell me or no
[09:41] <posingaspopular> Joshooa: the official is good
[09:41] <posingaspopular> from what im told
[09:41] <thoreauputic> riaal: if you do it differently you have to tell .bashrc where to look I guess :)
[09:42] <american> I have never updatedb before.  I don't know what it does exactly.
[09:42] <riaal> thoreauputic, think I did that =) are you running ubuntu drapper/edgy?
[09:42] <h1st0> corevette: someone already told you just chown corevette /media/ipod/whatever....
[09:42] <umop> how do I remove the file size limiations on my ext3 partititons
[09:42] <qfour20> riaal: the bazooka works, man.  shell restarts after reading .bashrc
[09:42] <h1st0> corevette: well sudo chown corvette
[09:42] <thoreauputic> american: it updates the "locate" database so locate can find stuff
[09:42] <SJ2000> I've gone through the installation problems, nothing there is relevant to my problem
[09:42] <riaal> qfour20, ? =P
[09:42] <mneptok> american: locate .doc > ~/results.txt
[09:42] <american> ok :D
[09:42] <h1st0> american: it updates the slocate database basically indexes all your files.
[09:42] <corevette> h1st0...just 'sudo chown /whatever/whatever'  ???
[09:42] <american> Cool.
[09:43] <thoreauputic> american: normally that happens daily from a cron job, automatically
[09:43] <h1st0> mneptok: my slocate doesn't do my windows mount for somereason.
[09:43] <qfour20> riaal: my suggestion of "kill -HUP $PID" for the shell your'e in was referred to as the "bazooka approach"
[09:43] <thoreauputic> american: but on a live CD of course you have to run it manually
[09:43] <h1st0> mneptok: /media/Windows isn't hit by locate right now?
[09:43] <qfour20> but it would actually work, in this case
[09:43] <dromer> hi, how can I make an .iso out of a dvd?
[09:43] <h1st0> thoreauputic: ^^^^^^  on a normal system it doesn't search /media/Windows
[09:43] <american> I have hda1 mounted to my desktop
[09:43] <mneptok> h1st0: filesystem?
[09:43] <american> maybe that helps?
[09:44] <h1st0> mneptok: ntfs
[09:44] <thoreauputic> qfour20: only if he put his aliases where they can be found :)
[09:44] <riaal> qfour20, okey, do I need to restart it after?
[09:44] <corevette> h1st0 what do i put after chown
[09:44] <h1st0> corevette: your username
[09:44] <thoreauputic> h1st0: a system with /media/windows isn't normal ;p
[09:44] <qfour20> oh, if they're not being found, then nevermind
[09:44] <omeil> This is what i get when i type make so i can compile cdemu http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8897/
[09:44] <h1st0> corevette: the username that you want to have read/write.
[09:44] <thoreauputic> h1st0: sorry, couldn't resist :)
[09:44] <h1st0> thoreauputic: lol
[09:44] <h1st0> thoreauputic: The wife insists
[09:45] <h1st0> thoreauputic: But I don't use it.
[09:45] <thoreauputic> h1st0: ah, I see
[09:45] <thoreauputic> h1st0: I believe you - thousands wouldn't ;)
[09:45] <chindu> hi qfour20 - ran "todos logfile.w3c" but it still isn't right. Whe i try to load it in webspy it says "Found only 1 fields, was expecting more than 21". It shows the square symbol between each field on each line of the log. Have I done something wrong?
[09:45] <american> Ok, I have a list.txt on my desktop of what seems to be all the *.doc files on the system.  How would I now find the total size of the files located in the file list.txt.
[09:45] <american> The du command before didn't give me a total.
[09:45] <h1st0> omeil: did you get errors when you .configure ?
[09:46] <h1st0> omeil: err configed it.
[09:46] <qfour20> chindu: well, not "wrong" per se, but there's gotta be some option that we should be using instead
[09:46] <american> The file is fairly small.
[09:46] <h1st0> mneptok: its ntfs filesystem didn't know if updatedb was ignoring it for somereason by default or what but it definately doesn't index it.
[09:46] <chindu> qfour20 - i'll have a read a mo - thanks
[09:46] <qfour20> chindu: apparently, it now knows the characters in the file are correct, but it's disliking what is likely to be tabs or just whitespace in the files.
[09:46] <american> I wonder if this owner of this computer used another extention, but I doubt it.
[09:46] <omeil> u can't configure cdemu
[09:47] <umop> how do I remove the file size limiations on my ext3 partititons
[09:47] <SJ2000> I have IT8212 PATA RAID with another SATA RAID and the Ubuntu install has corrupted all my partitions and MBR's on each drive in the arrays
[09:47] <h1st0> omeil: well i'm not familiar witht he program so didn't know.
[09:47] <h1st0> omeil: perhaps consult the person who wrote it.
[09:47] <chindu> qfour20 - i believe they are tabs
[09:47] <omeil> hmm
[09:47] <corevette> how do i copy a directory
[09:47] <omeil> ok then thx
[09:47] <h1st0> corevette: the contents? or the whole thing?
[09:48] <corevette> the whole thing h1st0
[09:48] <american> Use the move command to move a directory.  I think cp will copy it.
[09:48] <h1st0> corevette: cp /whatever ~/newlocation
[09:48] <h1st0> corevette: cp -R /wahtever ~/newlocation
[09:48] <corevette> h1st0 -R?
[09:48] <h1st0> corevette: or just drag the folder with nautilus
[09:48] <h1st0> corevette: should be recursive switch.
[09:48] <american> AH
[09:49] <h1st0> corevette: means it will copy the directories inside of that one.
[09:49] <h1st0> corevette: you also have to make sure the destination directory exists as well.
[09:49] <riaal> is there any command or program to see the hdd temps?
[09:49] <eck> riaal: try poking around in /proc
[09:50] <american> Is there a way to do a batch move command?   I have list.txt with the list of all the *.doc files.....I want all of them moved to the same place.  Is there a way to do that?
[09:50] <riaal> eck, ?
[09:50] <thoreauputic> riaal:  hddtemp
[09:50] <mneptok> american: of course. but it might require some good regex-fu.
[09:50] <riaal> thoreauputic, great, thanks
[09:50] <thoreauputic> !hddtemp
[09:50] <eck> riaal: e.g. look in /proc/acpi
[09:50] <ubotu> hddtemp: Utility to monitor the temperature of your hard drive. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3-beta15-29 (edgy), package size 46 kB, installed size 260 kB
[09:50] <american> Sorry for the hard questions....I know Debian is STRONG and can do just about anything.
[09:51] <eck> riaal: all of your hardware information (and a lot of kernel settings) can be changed or checked by looking in /proc
[09:51] <american> what is regex-fu?
[09:51] <thoreauputic> american: deep guru magic with regular expressions :)
[09:51] <riaal> eck, cool, thanks
[09:51] <keith> I have an ati 9000 anyone know if I can use tv out and watch video on my tv while working on my monitor?
[09:51] <h1st0> american: do you just want to cp all docs on windows part?
[09:52] <h1st0> american: cuz that would be a lot easier than using the list.txt created.
[09:52] <eck> for example, i can see my hdd and mobo temperature by cat'ing /proc/acpi/ibm/thermal
[09:52] <TM|AMD64|BBIAS> keith: dunno, MIGHT be able to, but probably not. I tried with my 9200SE, and I couldn't do it.
[09:52] <metal03> Small question...  what's the difference between .rpm or .tar.gz ?  And what am I using on Ubuntu?
[09:53] <corevette> h1st0, last question, how do you delete a directory
[09:53] <posingaspopular> metal03: you are using .deb
[09:53] <eck> !software | metal03
[09:53] <ubotu> metal03: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents and !Offline
[09:53] <posingaspopular> .tar.gz is compression
[09:53] <posingaspopular> .rpm is for red hat linux
[09:53] <posingaspopular> iirc
[09:53] <thoreauputic> metal03: neither, and it depends - Ubuntu uses .deb which is similar to rpm (package manager)
[09:53] <eck> metal03: that page will explain package management in a lot of detail, including these differences
[09:53] <h1st0> corevette: rm -rf /directoryname
[09:53] <american> h1st0....yeah that would work.  I want to cp all the *.doc files into a collective group.
[09:53] <omeil> is there any other way to open .cue flies?
[09:53] <thoreauputic> metal03: tar.gz is often but not necessarily source code
[09:53] <omeil> files
[09:54] <omeil> !cue
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <riaal> man Im really starting to like linux, if it works it WORKS.. wonderfull
[09:54] <american> corevette: rmdir (be careful)
[09:54] <h1st0> american: yeah mneptok could probably help you with that one.
[09:54] <thoreauputic> !bchunk | omeil
[09:54] <ubotu> omeil: bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[09:54] <metal03> I'm trying to install Adobe Reader...  and they propose .rpm and .tar.gz !  Any advises?
[09:54] <thoreauputic> !acroread
[09:54] <ubotu> acroread: Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.9-0.0.ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 22375 kB, installed size 54700 kB (Only available for i386)
[09:54] <ALL4N> hey, to get a list of files/folders in a directory, I use ls -l, but I find all the other information such as time modified, group, owner etc not necessary.. is it possible to do ls -l without all those?  I prefer showing them in a list btw, so ls alone is not ok
[09:54] <american> metal03: use automatix or some other program.
[09:55] <thoreauputic> !automatix
[09:55] <h1st0> metal03: no
[09:55] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:55] <h1st0> metal03: NO ATUMATIX BAD
[09:55] <metal03> lol
[09:55] <h1st0> metal03: just install the acroread from the repos
[09:55] <thoreauputic> american: please don't recommend automatix
[09:55] <umop> how do I remove the file size limiations on my ext3 partititons
[09:55] <american> I have had no trouble with Automatix and this is the first time I have heard of any.
[09:55] <metal03> sudo get-apt install acroread ???
[09:55] <metal03> like that?
[09:56] <thoreauputic> american: see !worksforme
[09:56] <american> k
[09:56] <thoreauputic> !worksforme | american
[09:56] <ubotu> american: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:56] <eshaase> if i install feisty right now with a net-install and the release comes out in a month, will doing a 'apt-get upgrade' after the release bring my system up-to-date as if i had intalled using the feisty release cd?
[09:56] <ALL4N> aha: ls -1
[09:56] <omeil> thoreauputic: do you know how to use bchunk? i wanna convert /home/omeil/quake3/quake3arena.cue
[09:56] <h1st0> eshaase: yes
[09:57] <eshaase> h1st0: excellent, ok, thanks!
[09:57] <thoreauputic> omeil: never needed to use it, sorry
[09:57] <american> I don't blindly install everything automatix has.  I only use a few things.  I'll check out that other one.
[09:57] <omeil> its ok
[09:57] <eck> umop: do you have terabyte sized files?
[09:57] <thoreauputic> omeil: i just know it exists :)
[09:57] <h1st0> So the question is how does american cp all his .doc's on /mountpoint/windows over?
[09:57] <eck> umop: for 8kb blocks (the default in ext3) the file size limit is 2 TB
[09:58] <h1st0> cp -R *.doc /mountpoint/hda1 ????
[09:58] <umop> eck, thanks, it must be something else
[09:58] <eck> umop: what is the problem?
[09:58] <thoreauputic> h1st0: maybe something like   for doc in $(ls -R /media/windows) ; do cp $doc ; done
[09:58] <h1st0> cp -R *.doc /mountpoint/hda1 /desination/
[09:58] <umop> eck, I bet it's samba.. IM copying largish files from one computer to another
[09:59] <h1st0> thoreauputic: shouldn't be that difficult.
[09:59] <thoreauputic> h1st0: but that was just off the top of my head so it's probably wrong
[09:59] <eshaase> is there really that much of a differnce between edgy and feisty? they use the same gnome release so i figure it can't be that big of a difference
[09:59] <eck> umop: if you can, you're much better off using rsync, losing data in the middle of the transfer won't waste the whole thing
[09:59] <thoreauputic> h1st0: actually that doesn'r find the .docs either
[09:59] <Madpilot> metal03, adobe reader is in Ubuntu's Multiverse repo - just look for it in Add/Remove...
[09:59] <feng> any one had installed borland together on ubuntu(feisty)?
[09:59] <umop> eck, true.  I'll do that now.
[09:59] <thoreauputic> h1st0: that would require another bit...
[10:00] <Madpilot> !info acroread
[10:00] <ubotu> acroread: Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.9-0.0.ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 22375 kB, installed size 54700 kB (Only available for i386)
[10:00] <umop> eck, I was getting error File size limit exceeded (core dumped)" I just assumed it to be the filesystem
[10:00] <metal03> Madpilot : in Synaptic?
[10:00] <Madpilot> metal03, there too, but it is in Add/Remove
[10:00] <h1st0> thoreauputic: there has to be an easier way to do this I believe.
[10:00] <h1st0> feng: try #ubuntu+1
[10:01] <omeil> !iso
[10:01] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning. Burning .iso files: see !burn
[10:01] <thoreauputic> h1st0: well it would be easy if all the .docs were in one directory I suppose
[10:02] <american> I know what to do.   I already seem to have the list of all of them.  I just need to add "cp" in front of it and the destination at the end with a semi-colon.  Then copy the whole thing into a terminal.   Yeah, brute force method.   But it would work.   Wish I had the elegant way of doing it.
[10:03] <umop> american, could easily write a script to do that.
[10:03] <h1st0> thoreauputic: maybe cpio
[10:03] <h1st0> thoreauputic: nvm
[10:03] <MarkCh> help! why does kde notification area/system tray apps not dock on ubuntu's system tray in my desktop?
[10:03] <eck> american: there are like 100 ways to do this :-)
[10:03] <american> I bet
[10:03] <eck> american: the easiest way is just to use globbing in the shell
[10:04] <eck> or else find
[10:04] <eck> off the top of my head, something like this: find . -name "*.doc" -exec cp {} /somewhere/else\;
[10:05] <javi_> hola
[10:05] <american> I'll try that
[10:05] <tuxcrafter> hi guys how do i restore the default values for the ubuntu init.d sripts S0 to S6
[10:05] <eck> this executes cp (filename) /somewhere/else for each *.doc file find comes across
[10:05] <american> Wish I knew all the elegent ways.
[10:05] <american> thanks
[10:06] <thoreauputic> tuxcrafter:  update-rc.d  ( but I think that is for individual apps rather than all )
[10:06] <susscorfa> hi does any one know how to fix when modprobe fglrx returns FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx i installed theme fromt the repositorys
[10:07] <eck> find is one of the most powerful commands in unix/linux, but it is also one of the least user friendly :-(
[10:07] <eck> the man page is like 1000 lines
[10:07] <tuxcrafter> thoreauputic: yes i know of update-rc.d but i need to restore ALL the default values of the ubuntu init script system
[10:08] <thoreauputic> tuxcrafter: right - I don't know then
[10:08] <american> eck: says there is an error in exec.  missing argument
[10:08] <tuxcrafter> someone that can help me
[10:08] <thoreauputic> tuxcrafter: sounds pretty drastic - I think something like sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a  might do it but I'm not sure
[10:09] <eck> american: try quoting the {}
[10:09] <thoreauputic> tuxcrafter: that also reconfigures *everything*
[10:09] <american> ok
[10:09] <american> trying that
[10:09] <eck> e.g. 'find . *.doc -exec cp {} /somewhere/else ;'
[10:09] <eck> err, you need the -name thing
[10:09] <domster> american: or, try spliting the thing into two commands. try the find until you know that works, then pipe it to xargs
[10:10] <Nerv> llo
[10:10] <Nerv> hello my name ist ner net
[10:10] <Robinsjostrom> hello ner net!
[10:11] <Nerv> Robisonstorm English or Deutsch
[10:11] <Nerv> ?
[10:11] <h1st0_> ?
[10:11] <h1st0_> wow got bounced
[10:11] <kalorin> !?
[10:12] <sprking> ?
[10:12] <kalorin> !
[10:12] <sprking> :)
[10:12] <TM|AMD64|BBIAS> !?
[10:12] <kalorin> punctuation warz!
[10:12] <h1st0_> !fglrx
[10:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:12] <TM|AMD64> @#!@@
[10:12] <kalorin> anyone running on a core duo chip yet?
[10:12] <h1st0_> kalorin: my friend is.
[10:12] <american> fine seems to be fine.  the '-exec' is missing an argument it says.
[10:13] <Jowi> kalorin, yeah. coe duo here (not core 2 duo)
[10:13] <kalorin> h1st0, working well?
[10:13] <american> wait.  The connection between find and 'exec' is the problem.
[10:13] <Nerv> Wer ist kann Deutsch Bitte melden ich kann nmlich nicht English und plus brauche ich hilfe in Ubuntu !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:13] <h1st0_> kalorin: for the most part.  He is running fiesty though so....
[10:13] <kalorin> thinking about upgrading to one
[10:13] <Jowi> kalorin, core duo (32 bit) is excellent
[10:13] <h1st0_> !de | Nerv
[10:13] <ubotu> Nerv: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:13] <kalorin> cool
[10:13] <kalorin> just thinking it would really go nicely
[10:14] <h1st0_> kalorin: yeah that would be the way to go core duo 32bit.
[10:14] <Jowi> kalorin, running ubuntu on a intel mac mini here. it flies.
[10:14] <h1st0_> Something with VT could be cool as well.
[10:14] <TM|AMD64> MACS, it's just SO sad.
[10:14] <Nerv> h
[10:14] <Nerv> h
[10:14] <Nerv> h
[10:14] <Nerv> h
[10:15] <Nerv> h
[10:15] <Nerv> h
[10:15] <Nerv> h
[10:15] <Nerv> h
[10:15] <Nerv> h
[10:15] <Nerv> h
[10:15] <Jowi> TM|AMD64, it's excellent hardware. That's what I bought it for. no OSX on it :)
[10:15] <susscorfa> h1st0_: the thing i could conclude fromt the wiki is that i should compile my own drivers while i just whant them from the repository
[10:15] <Askar> Hi! Where can I download royale.msstyles or luna.msstyles?
[10:15] <kalorin> i'm installing IE on my system
[10:15] <h1st0_> susscorfa: just install the ones from the repo then?
[10:16] <kalorin> Internet Extortion!
[10:16] <susscorfa> ye but these give this modprobe problem
[10:16] <TM|AMD64> Intelligence Extraction!
[10:16] <h1st0_> kalorin: I have an XP virtual machine that works quite nicely.
[10:16] <susscorfa> i describe so i wonderd if there is a other way to solve it than compile them
[10:17] <h1st0_> susscorfa: yeah just use the ones from the repos.
[10:17] <TM|AMD64> nice name! :)
[10:17] <h1st0_> susscorfa: perhaps you are missing a step.
[10:17] <american> find outputs the files, but not the whole path.
[10:17] <tuxcrafter> i tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure initscripts but it dit not work
[10:17] <american> I think exec cp on locate.
[10:17] <h1st0_> susscorfa: what video card do you ahve exactly?  Make sure you are following the proper instructions in the wiki.
[10:18] <susscorfa> x700 ati
[10:18] <eck> american: the full path is replaced in {}
[10:18] <eck> american: look at xargs
[10:18] <kalorin> h1st0, yeah but I saw a tip that says that photoshop elements might install if IE was on there for it to use
[10:18] <kalorin> like natively
[10:18] <kalorin> I have the vmware XP there as well, figured I'd try this
[10:19] <kalorin> haahaha
[10:19] <kalorin> too funny
[10:19] <kalorin> IE running on X
[10:19] <h1st0_> kalorin: well there is gimp shop as well.  That supports 99% of ps's pluggins
[10:19] <ForgeAus> kal? whats funny about ies4linux?
[10:19] <kalorin> it's like that ohio state michigan commercial with the two kids on the couch making out with thier respective Tshirts on
[10:19] <kalorin> nah just the idea of running ie on linux
[10:20] <omeil> people for iso mounting and iso conversion i recommend you run isobuster through wine :D it woiks very good
[10:20] <kalorin> h1st0, I own elements
[10:20] <joyoftech> whoa IE ON LINUX ftw
[10:20] <ForgeAus> its like having two computers one windows machine running firefox and the other a linux machine running ie! :)
[10:20] <eck> omeil: yes, but isos can be mounted natively in linux :-)
[10:20] <eck> (and encoded natively)
[10:20] <kalorin> h1st0, you know what's funny is that the main issue that I have is .dng files
[10:20] <thoreauputic> omeil:  sudo mount -o loop foo.iso /mount/point
[10:21] <athlon> is there a DVD iso one can download which contains packages for edgy ?
[10:21] <kalorin> you'd think of all the OS's out there, adobe says lets me a digital negative open standard, adn everyone does it but linux
[10:21] <kalorin> I'm sure it'll come but I would have thought it'd have been one of the first
[10:21] <omeil> ok iso's or other type of image file :D :P
[10:21] <umop> eck, I am having no joy with copying these files..Got any other suggestions?
[10:21] <omeil> bin/img/ccd/cue/mdf hmm u name it
[10:21] <frying_fish> by adobe's digital standards, don't you mean a closed source thing... and something they try to sell.
[10:22] <kalorin> nah it's an open standard
[10:22] <craigp84> hi all, anyone know where hotplug went to in edgy? looking in /etc/hotplug, but that dirs no longer there, i vaguely recall it's been replaced by something else... udev?
[10:22] <kalorin> kind of like pdf
[10:22] <kalorin> adobe digital negative
[10:22] <eck> athlon: use rsync to grab the archive mirror
[10:22] <joyoftech> is ubuntu and xubuntu the same but xubuntu uses smaller resources right?
[10:22] <kalorin> it's so that sony and canon and nikon and everyone else cna just use one file format
[10:22] <kalorin> joyoftech, my understanding is that
[10:22] <athlon> eck: dont have internet at home
[10:22] <kalorin> I'm runnin xubuntu
[10:22] <eck> umop: i think it might be an advanced option, with TCP the sequence numbers will roll around eventually and this could cause problems if you are copying really, really big files
[10:23] <umop> eck, hmm
[10:23] <eck> i could see this tripping up a program
[10:23] <joyoftech> is xbuntu stable as ubuntu, im just curious
[10:23] <joyoftech> or better?
[10:24] <omeil> uses less resources
[10:24] <ForgeAus> I'd hazard that ubuntu is more stable
[10:24] <eck> athlon: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/
[10:24] <eck> you would still need to download it though...
[10:24] <ForgeAus> but I could be easily wrong
[10:24] <kalorin> kalorin@zebra:/media/cdrom0$ Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:24] <kalorin> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:24] <kalorin> any thoughts?
[10:24] <ForgeAus> kalorin you need a symbolic link
[10:24] <ForgeAus> probably
[10:25] <ForgeAus> from where the modules/dri directory is (prolly somewhere under usr/share or something... to somewhere like /usr/X11/lib or something...
[10:25] <eck> umop: i know FTP can support arbitrarily large files
[10:26] <ForgeAus> I can't quite give you the correct folders/directories because my kubuntu isn't quite working right now
[10:26] <craigp84> found hotplug replacement... /etc/udev/rules.d/90-modprobe.rules
[10:26] <umop> eck, Yeah, I have a couple of ideas I may try.  Annoyed now, I'll leave it for a bit :)
[10:26] <ALEX1> rofl ubuntu!
[10:26] <kalorin> hrms.. install failed like normal
[10:26] <eck> umop: also, check your ulimits
[10:26] <kalorin> disappointing
[10:26] <ALEX1> so when are all my professional apps going to work in linux?
[10:26] <umop> eck, have done, they are all unlimited
[10:27] <kalorin> ok so I'm running a vmware server XP instance
[10:27] <kalorin> I guess there's really no way to set up a shared file area is there?
[10:28] <kalorin> best thing possible would be to run a samba share or something?
[10:28] <kalorin> and have it mount that as a drive letter over the internal network riht?
[10:29] <Wuffi600> hi.
[10:29] <omeil> ffs, evertime i try to run quake 3 arena it always stuffs up...its saying can't find default.cfg anyone?
[10:29] <TM|AMD64> what
[10:29] <ALEX1> hey
[10:29] <TM|AMD64> 's the prob, Wuffi600?
[10:29] <ALEX1> i want to install ubuntu
[10:29] <sprking>
[10:29] <ALEX1> i need to know if i can use Photoshop, Cubase
[10:29] <eck> umop: you might also try writing to a server mailing list (e.g. redhat-list) and seeing what people are using to copy really big files, i'm sure they would have the best advice for something that works and is efficent
[10:29] <ALEX1> and all my professional apps i use in the studio
[10:29] <ALEX1> and play games
[10:30] <klimraamkosie> I shared a directory on my one ubuntu PC with NFS, How do I reach it with another on on the same network??
[10:30] <umop> eck, good idea, will do.
[10:30] <Wuffi600> In what file is a good place to add lines "export http_proxy=proxy.mydomain:8080" and "export ftp_proxy=proxy.mydomain:8080" that it will affect systemwide to all users?
[10:31] <athlon> *sniffle* ubuntu officially sucks for those without internet connection
[10:31] <pingpongboss> ...?
[10:31] <bcochofel> ok, I need to install crossvc, where can I get a repo for this?
[10:31] <pingpongboss> then how are u on here..
[10:31] <Askar> !ssh
[10:31] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[10:31] <athlon> comp lab
[10:31] <arfy> dood, gentoo sucks worse, at least for installing from minimal cd's
[10:31] <eck> Wuffi600: use iptables
[10:31] <pingpongboss> oh dang.. well, everything sucks when u don't have internet :P
[10:31] <arfy> without net
[10:32] <athlon> every instruction in wiki reads like, go do "sudo aptitude install <bla bla>"
[10:32] <arfy> pingpongboss: true that
[10:32] <eck> afaik it is only possible to do with iptables or a hardware router
[10:32] <omeil> Can anyone help me with thise quake 3 issue? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8904/
[10:32] <cyphase> How would you guys describe Linux in 2002 compared to Linux now?
[10:32] <Wuffi600> eck: ok, i see.
[10:32] <crimsun> athlon: your cdrom repository is active by default, too.
[10:32] <thoreauputic> cyphase: night and day
[10:33] <Wuffi600> eck: thank you.
[10:33] <eck> Wuffi600: np
[10:33] <cyphase> i want something really strong
[10:33] <thoreauputic> cyphase: so much was still clunky in 2002
[10:33] <TM|AMD64> arfy: 20002?
[10:33] <arfy> particularly for blind/visually impared uses, not now.
[10:33] <cyphase> thoreauputic: i know, i'm just writing an email, and i want to get the point across that linux has come a looong way from 2002
[10:33] <emudem> hola
[10:33] <athlon> crimsun: yeah I installed all of them. I dunno why they dont put more softwares in it. The iso is only 3.6GB or so, theres more than 1GB free space left
[10:34] <arfy> 20002? lol
[10:34] <emudem> any spanish?
[10:34] <thoreauputic> arfy: can we have your time machine ? ;-)
[10:34] <TM|AMD64> gtg.
[10:34] <thoreauputic> !es
[10:34] <pingpongboss> anyone know any good ubuntu blogs?
[10:34] <arfy> the emacs reerse-time function lol
[10:34] <CheshireViking> !es > emudem
[10:34] <emudem> i'm spanish and i want use proxy for kubuntu
[10:34] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:34] <arfy> reverse
[10:34] <eck> i bet in 20002 X11 will have perfect autodetection
[10:34] <eck> it will be awesome
[10:34] <pingpongboss> i've seen a bunch, but they all got low comment counts
[10:35] <arfy> that's if we don't die in 2012. lol
[10:35] <emudem> in ubuntu-es , kubuntu-es no people
[10:37] <Askar> Hi! I can connect to my computer over SSH if I am using the same network. How do I do if I am using another network than my computer?
[10:37] <neildarlow> anyone using gimp on feisty?
[10:37] <emudem> howto proxy in kubuntu??
[10:37] <klimraamkosie> NFS: How do I access an NFS share on another PC
[10:37] <bcochofel> anyone, ubuntu 6.10 doesn't come with crossvc, where can I find it?
[10:38] <neildarlow> klimraamkosie: is it exported on the other system?
[10:38] <emudem> howto proxy in kubuntu, where can I find it?
[10:38] <gyaresu> Askar: Do you want to access your computer from the interweb?
[10:38] <xipietotec_> !raid
[10:38] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[10:38] <cpk1> anyone know how to be able to type japanese characters?
[10:38] <gyaresu> !jp
[10:38] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp
[10:38] <klimraamkosie> neildarlow: is it exported?
[10:38] <klimraamkosie> I don't know what that means
[10:38] <arfy> wo
[10:39] <neildarlow> klimraamkosie: you need to provide an entry in /etc/exports on the serving system
[10:39] <gyaresu> !nfs
[10:39] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[10:39] <cpk1> gyaresu: yes thats nice; but I am an english native speaker, I would like to be able to type in japanese characters however
[10:39] <tschaka> Askar open the port (should be 22) on ur router.
[10:40] <gyaresu> cpk1: From the keyboard? Then you need the layout changed.
[10:40] <gyaresu> !keyboard | cpk1
[10:40] <ubotu> cpk1: To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[10:40] <thoreauputic> cpk1: maybe System -Preferences - SCIM Input
[10:40] <sprking> itsprok
[10:40] <klimraamkosie> neildarlow: checking that
[10:40] <neildarlow> is there a channel to discuss feisty testing?
[10:41] <gyaresu> cpk1: Do you have the characters on your keyboard. If not then you could use a char input prog. Is that what you mean?
[10:41] <thoreauputic> neildarlow: #ubuntu+1
[10:41] <neildarlow> thoreauputic: thanks
[10:41] <cpk1> gyaresu: yes, i suppose so
[10:41] <v4m21> opensuse has graphical virtual consoles is there any way to get graphics mode virtual consoles in ubuntu ?
[10:41] <klimraamkosie> neildarlow: there is an entry there
[10:41] <sprking> it spoke 2 me
[10:41] <v4m21> and knoppix also has these type of virtual consoles.
[10:42] <neildarlow> klimraamkosie: then you should be able to mount the share using "mount -t nfs ..." see the docs
[10:42] <gyaresu> cpk1: ' apt-cache search japanese |grep -i input' There seems to be a lot.
[10:42] <gyaresu> klimraamkosie: Did you 'sudo exportfs -a' from the server?
[10:42] <neildarlow> klimraamkosie: or use one of the network browsers on your desktop
[10:43] <klimraamkosie> neildarlow: I've only tried the network browser, and that only shows windows network
[10:44] <klimraamkosie> neildarlow: I'll try mount -t nfs?
[10:45] <thoreauputic> klimraamkosie: nfs mount points show in the Computer place in Nautilus
[10:45] <thoreauputic> klimraamkosie: assuming that nfs is properly configured of course :)
[10:46] <sysuser> hi, I installed proftpd via synaptic I configured it but now on startup I have to deactivate and activate it to make it work
[10:46] <sysuser> does anyone know how to fix this?
[10:46] <ekul1> I have set up gaim to connect to 2 IRC servers.. this freenode one opens, and stupid question -- but how do i get to the other?
[10:46] <klimraamkosie> hmm right
[10:46] <klimraamkosie> i should probably get it configured on this pc haha lets see
[10:47] <otwr> not for me thoreau... i'm on kubuntu but i basically had to mount manually. I can share an fstab entry that seems to work
[10:48] <igge> is there a way to define keyboard macros in gedit?
[10:48] <thoreauputic> otwr: I use nfs and set entries in fstab - but nautilus will put entries there on right click to share too
[10:49] <thoreauputic> otwr: the mounted dirs show in Computer
[10:49] <thoreauputic> otwr: you can also have icons on the desktop - I prefer not to
[10:50] <ekul1> does anyone know how to install the emu10k1 alsa driver things?
[10:51] <apallo> java won't work in my firefox, even though i installed it
[10:51] <susscorfa> hi does any one know how to fix when modprobe fglrx returns FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx i installed theme fromt the repositorys
[10:51] <thoreauputic> apallo:  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[10:51] <igge> apollo: did you try with automatix?
[10:52] <thoreauputic> apallo: and have you installed the plugin package?
[10:52] <gyaresu> ekul1: 'modprobe -l |grep emu10k1' will tell you if you have it.
[10:52] <thoreauputic> !automatix
[10:52] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:52] <thoreauputic> igge: don't recommned automatix please
[10:52] <ekul1> thanks gyaresu
[10:53] <igge> oops... ok won't do that.. it's always worked fine for me though...
[10:53] <gyaresu> !works for me | igge
[10:53] <ubotu> igge: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[10:53] <apallo> where can i get it?
[10:53] <gyaresu> :)
[10:53] <thoreauputic> gyaresu: heh beat me to it :)
[10:53] <^rob^> hello
[10:53] <apallo> the plugin thingy
[10:54] <ekul1> says/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1x.ko
[10:54] <ekul1> /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1.ko
[10:54] <ekul1> /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1-synth.ko
[10:54] <ekul1> /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/sound/oss/emu10k1/emu10k1.ko
[10:54] <ekul1> /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/input/gameport/emu10k1-gp.ko
[10:54] <ekul1> sorry for flood
[10:54] <gyaresu> !pastebin | ekul1
[10:54] <ubotu> ekul1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:54] <ekul1> Thanks :)
[10:54] <^rob^> i am trying to install mysql server-4.1 from deb package and i get
[10:54] <^rob^> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-4.1_4.1.15-1ubuntu5_i386.deb (--unpack):
[10:54] <^rob^>  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[10:54] <thoreauputic> ekul1: don't do that
[10:54] <^rob^> what the heck is that?
[10:55] <bcochofel> can I use feisty repo with edgy?
[10:55] <^rob^> i did apt-get clean - redo the procedure - same error
[10:55] <ekul1> don't what?
[10:55] <thoreauputic> ekul1: flood
[10:55] <gyaresu> ^rob^: Can I ask why from a deb package?
[10:55] <ekul1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8906/plain/ in non-flooding form
[10:56] <thoreauputic> ekul1: you notice I removed the gag when I saw your apology :)
[10:56] <gyaresu> !feisty | bcochofel
[10:56] <ubotu> bcochofel: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[10:56] <apallo> thoreauputic:where do i get plugin package?
[10:56] <^rob^> gyaresu: i mean ubuntu repo
[10:56] <ekul1> thanks thoreauputic, now i know how to paste terminal code in chat -- wont happen again :0
[10:56] <ekul1> :) rather
[10:56] <thoreauputic> apallo: install sun-java5-plugin
[10:56] <apallo> ty
[10:57] <^rob^> damn - i closed the window - sorry
[10:57] <^rob^> so - back to my mysql problem - can somebody help?
[10:57] <ekul1> wb
[10:57] <gyaresu> ^rob^: so you want to add feisty repo to edgy right?
[10:57] <^rob^> feisty?
[10:57] <bill-nz> can someone help me with an NVidia driver problem?
[10:57] <bcochofel> it was me not ^rob^
[10:58] <bcochofel> I need crossvc and I can't find it under edgy
[10:58] <ekul1> bill-nz do you have Envy? fixed all my problems
[10:58] <gyaresu> ^rob^: bcochofel K. So rob why are you  installing from a .deb and why does bcochofel need a feisty repo?
[10:59] <sledgeas> hello
[10:59] <^rob^> gyaresu: I AM INSTALLING WITH APT-GET!! grr
[10:59] <gyaresu> !welcome | sledgeas