[00:00]  * mackie tries again, get the same result. Must be doing something wrong.
[00:00] <k1l> show the command?
[00:01] <mackie> /home/mack/games/foo/bar
[00:01] <k1l> mackie: you can use the tab key to let files and folders autocomplete so you dont make that much typos. and keep in mind that its case sensetive
[00:01] <k1l> ./.../.../...
[00:01] <mackie> The tab key does help, yeah. So far that hasn't made the difference.
[00:02] <k1l> you got a point in front?
[00:02] <mackie> Well, when I try ./home/mack/games/foo/bar, it grouses at me. When I try /home/mack/games/foo/./bar, it tries and failed unless I'm cd'd into the proper directory.
[00:03] <DrManhattan> how to I adjust the temp limits for lmsensors coretemp
[00:04] <mackie> bash: ./home/mackie/games/GearHead/arena: No such file or directory
[00:04] <mackie> Er. Blasted thing.
[00:04] <mackie> It copied the line break.
[00:04] <SchrodingersScat> not sure why you would have the ., thought that was shorthand for the current directory
[00:04] <mackie> Well, there. No more foo/bar, then.
[00:04] <Maryanne23>  There is no such thing as Free Porn http://bit.do/my_videos69
[00:05] <SchrodingersScat> !spam | Maryanne23
[00:05] <outfill> http://irclogs.ftp.sh/
[00:05] <mackie> Well, I'm a total n00b, so I've tried it every which way I know how.
[00:05] <mackie> That was one example.
[00:06] <SchrodingersScat> it should just be /home/mack/games/foo/executable -options
[00:07] <mackie> -options! What format?
[00:07] <mackie> 'Cause that's probably what I'm missing!
[00:07] <SchrodingersScat> mackie: you haven't even divulged what program you're using
[00:07] <SchrodingersScat> mackie: you tell me
[00:07] <mackie> GearHead Arena.
[00:07] <butter> question
[00:07] <WyZeGuY> daftykins: usr13 suggested internet sharing. it has managed to connect, but no internet on it yet. any ideas?
[00:07] <mackie> SchrodingersScat: It's GearHead Arena, the graphical version.
[00:07] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: sorry, i'm done for tonight. midnight here.
[00:08] <SchrodingersScat> mackie: then probably nothing
[00:08] <mackie> Fair enough.
[00:08] <WyZeGuY> ok, well thank you so much for your help daftykins
[00:08] <mackie> The discrepancy so far is that I can run it properly if I'm already cd'd into its directory, but if I try that command from another directory, it gives me an error. EInOutError : File not found
[00:09] <WyZeGuY> daftykins: i will try that update and build-essential you suggested when i can get internet
[00:09] <mackie> A bit more than that, too, but I don't want to flood.
[00:10] <mackie> As stated, it doesn't do that if I'm running it from within its proper directory, but surely there's a general way to point the executable to your directory of choice?
[00:10] <mackie> There's certainly a general way to point it to the wrong one, apparently.
[00:12] <mackie> I begin to suspect I'm being such an idiot that folks can't even understand my problem. :T
[00:12] <k1l> mackie: sorry, you dont need the ./ when giving fullpath. but what is the _exact_ error then?
[00:12] <SchrodingersScat> !pastebin | mackie
[00:13] <mackie> Oh thank goodness for Pastebin.
[00:13] <k1l> and what system is that?
[00:13] <mackie> Just a sec, pastebinning. System?
[00:13] <k1l> what version of ubuntu?
[00:14] <mackie> Oh. Can't recall how to get the version number. What's the command for that?
[00:14] <k1l> "lsb_release -a" put it into a pastebin too
[00:14] <mackie> Gracias.
[00:15] <nono> hello what this channel about for!
[00:15] <k1l> !topic | nono
[00:15] <mackie> http://pastebin.com/JNP3Avqa
[00:16]  * mackie looks at the topic again, blushes.
[00:16] <mackie> There's a paste URL up there, isn't there.
[00:16] <k1l> mackie: well, that is executing that script but it results in a error.
[00:16] <mackie> Right.
[00:17] <k1l> mackie: and 10.04 is eol for desktops
[00:17] <mackie> eol?
[00:17] <k1l> !eol
[00:17]  * mackie nods.
[00:17] <mackie> Has the command line changed much since then?
[00:17] <daftykins> wow you aren't even running up to date 10.04
[00:18]  * mackie chuckles.
[00:18] <mackie> No, it's true, it was an old disk and I was in a hurry.
[00:18] <k1l> i dont know if that is just a bug that has been patched in the time.
[00:18] <mackie> Huh. Weird.
[00:18] <k1l> so i am not motivated to invistigate that :/
[00:18] <mackie> Seems like it'd be a weird bug.
[00:18] <mackie> Lemme try it on my up to date install on the other box.
[00:19] <SchrodingersScat> I would suspect the script, but that's up to you
[00:19] <mackie> Same error.
[00:20] <mackie> And, even on the up-to-date Ubuntu install, if I first cd into the directory that script calls home, it works fine.
[00:20] <k1l> so its the scripts fault
[00:21] <k1l> maybe its not setup properly so its errors
[00:21] <mackie> I take it it's unusual for an executable or script to not look for its relevant files in whatever directory it's sitting, and instead to look for it from whence it's being run?
[00:21] <jseliga> Anyone running more than one graphics card?
[00:22] <SchrodingersScat> mackie: you would hope that they would, but you can't account for everyone's decisions.  Idk if adding it to your PATH would help you or not.
[00:22] <mackie> How would I go about trying?
[00:22] <k1l> from a quick research that is just a rubbish script. that is a known issue for it
[00:22] <SchrodingersScat> !path
[00:23] <mackie> Hrm. Pity.  I'm totally following that link, Schrodinger.
[00:23] <SchrodingersScat> or, just cd to the directory
[00:24] <mackie> I was kinda hoping to make a launcher on the desktop.
[00:24] <mackie> When I found I didn't know how to do this, and it wasn't on my cheat sheet...
[00:24] <SchrodingersScat> maybe the launcher can be a script that first cd's into a directory?
[00:24] <mackie> That seems like a sane idea.
[00:27] <mackie> Argh. This page makes me feel dumb. I can't parse it. How does one add a PATH variable to a command? I don't see any examples there I can make sense of, having tried multiple times.
[00:28] <daftykins> mackie: no you don't understand, the $PATH environment variable exists for you. try it: echo $PATH
[00:29] <daftykins> mackie: those are the folders BASH looks in for programs you want to run. so if you want *another* path to be looked in for your programs, add them.
[00:29] <mackie> Huh!
[00:29] <mackie> Interesting.
[00:30] <daftykins> i think you might want to look into a BASH beginners guide
[00:30] <mackie> God yes.
[00:30] <daftykins> *Tux
[00:31] <mackie> All I've known to do so far was type keywords into a search engine, and that has worked often enough that I've not had to figure out how to find a general guide.
[00:31] <mackie> I'll go try to find one of those, I think. Make good night-time reading.
[00:34] <mackie> Thanks. I found one in a .txt format I can put on my phone and read in the evenings.
[00:35] <mackie> That'll save everyone some trouble.
[00:36] <mackie> Well, now I'll take off, and hopefully when I return I won't be significantly lowering the channel's average IQ.
[00:37] <mackie> Thank you. Directing me to find a beginner's guide will actually probably do wonders for me.
[00:37] <mackie> Also, it's good to know this is a problem seldom encountered because most programmers don't create this problem.
[00:52] <WyZeGuY> mackie don't diss yourself
[01:05] <koot> Is there a place I can search the ubuntu arm repositories before installing??
[01:07] <tyrog> Hi, I have changed my system language but how do I make the home folders also be written in the new language? Thanks
[01:13] <popey> koot: packages.ubuntu.com
[01:13] <popey> koot: also, http://ports.ubuntu.com/
[01:15] <koot> popey: packages.ubuntu.com doesn't mention arm.. and how could i get/search the list of arm packages via ports.ubuntu.com?
[01:16] <somsip> !arn | koot
[01:16] <somsip> !arm | koot
[01:18] <owen1> how to listen to the relase of the End key inside a bash script? maybe something like while xinput --query-state 5 | grep -Flq 'button[9]=up' ? i don't know what number should i put instead of 9.
[01:20] <william__> i was trying to install ubuntu 14.10 x64 and after the ubuntu screen it kernel panics.  what do
[01:21] <popey> koot: can I ask what you're looking for?
[01:21] <somsip> owen1: would xev give you anything useful?
[01:23] <imastupidguest> I'm having a problem with repositories. I get the following lines at the end of sudo apt-get update    output : W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/pkgcrosswire/ppa/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[01:23] <imastupidguest> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/pkgcrosswire/ppa/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[01:23] <imastupidguest> When I look in /etc/apt/sources.list there is no entry for either of these Although they are repositories I did install a while back I don't recall how I installed them - I think I did it by adding the lines to /etc/apt/sources.list. What's going on here and how do I fix it?
[01:23] <owen1> somsip: good idea. let me see
[01:23] <somsip> imastupidguest: anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d as that's where PPA sources usually live
[01:24] <somsip> !ppa-purge | imastupidguest (might be useful too)
[01:25] <Bashing-om> imastupidguest: ^^ akso: per http://ppa.launchpad.net/pkgcrosswire/ppa/ubuntu/dists/ " trusty is not supported in that PPA .
[01:25] <popey> imastupidguest: threre are no trusty packages in that ppa. looks long abandoned.
[01:26] <k1l> i thought we had the "there are no 14.04 packages for crosswire" issue resolved the last days/weeks
[01:26] <imastupidguest> Bashing-om: popey: Ok. What can I do to remove this from my system?
[01:26] <koot> popey: I want to check various packages.. installing either arch or ubuntu depending on which has the best repositories available.
[01:26] <somsip> !ppa-purge | imastupidguest (as mentioned before)
[01:27] <popey> imastupidguest: what the bot said ☻
[01:27] <popey> koot: ok.
[01:27] <imastupidguest> popey: Sorry, didn't see it the first time  :)
[01:27] <imastupidguest> thx
[01:28] <zula33> is opengl the practical way to run world of warcraft in ubuntu?
[01:29] <koot> I can nicely search for arch with archlinuxarm.org .. nothing similar found for ubuntu so far :-\
[01:29] <k1l> koot: launchpad.net ?
[01:29] <k1l> koot: or packages.ubuntu.com
[01:29] <koot> packages.ubuntu doesn't have arm
[01:30] <william__> my kernel panic screen shot when trying to install 14.10 x64 http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=4u8g0w&s=8
[01:30] <Bashing-om> imastupidguest: Inspect ' cat /etc/apt/sources.list ' If the PPA is not found - should not be there anyway. then -> ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list/etc/apt/sources.list.d <- to list the contents of the 3rd party directory. Then one may remove the offending PPA either in the GUI "Software Sources " or with a text editor.
[01:30] <popey> koot: what distro you on at the moment, you could install a simple armhf chroot and have a poke about
[01:33] <imastupidguest> Bashing-om: popey: Using ppa-purge <uri>     fails. Output can be seen here : http://pastebin.com/ekSNUXZB
[01:34] <koot> popey: well it's for my phone so it kind of would be a chroot anyway, but yeah it seems like there is little better available than just doing it
[01:35] <koot> the ubuntu-arm channel is completely dead, --shock--
[01:35] <imastupidguest> Bashing-om: Hang on, didn't see your last statement. Lemme try that.
[01:35] <Bashing-om> imastupidguest: look'n at http://pastebin.com/ekSNUXZB .
[01:36] <Wamphyri> not sure if anyone has come across this issue, but i'm trying to install ubuntu 14.10 my mouse works except for the left click button, keyboard works as well. both mouse and keyboard are usb
[01:37] <popey> koot: it's 1am on a sunday night for most people who hang out there
[01:37] <Wamphyri> any ideas why the left click dosn't work?
[01:37] <Bashing-om> imastupidguest: Incorrect format of the ppa-purge command . Should be in the form -> sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> <- . ppa-purge is a good thing to try !
[01:37] <koot> most people are in W. Europe? but yeah not the ideal time I know
[01:38] <imastupidguest> Bashing-om: thx
[01:38] <popey> koot: yeah, if you come back during the EU/US work day, people will be about
[01:39] <popey> koot: a bunch of us have ARM based devices (phones/tablets/laptops) so can help when we're awake ☻
[01:41] <imastupidguest> Bashing-om: I'm sorry, I don't know how to parse the repo uri in order to replace you example command with the right path. Should I use the entire uri as shown in apt-get update output? (ie:   sudo ppa-purge ppa:http://ppa.launchpad.net/pkgcrosswire/ppa/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages)?
[01:42] <imastupidguest> I don't grep it
[01:43] <Wamphyri> guess theres no fix for it..
[01:45] <imastupidguest> Yeah, I keep trying various ways to write the command but I'm just guessing and nothing is working. I'm sorry, but I don't know how to do this.
[01:46] <unicornjedi> hiiiii
[01:46] <Wamphyri> not sure if anyone has come across this issue, but i'm trying to install ubuntu 14.10 my mouse works except for the left click button, keyboard works as well. both mouse and keyboard are usb, any ideas why the left click doesn't work?
[01:48] <william__> Wamphyri: does the right click work
[01:50] <imastupidguest> Finally, I find the original command I ran (in history in the terminal) to install the thing. It reads : sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pkgcrosswire/ppa     So I go ahead and run sudo ppa-purge ppa:pkgcrosswire/ppa     Makes not difference at all (I get the same output as in the earlier linked paste).
[01:50] <Bashing-om> imastupidguest: Maybe try it as -> sudo ppa-purge ppa:launchpad.net/pkgcrosswire .
[01:51] <imastupidguest> Bashing-om: Done - no change/output is same as in the paste
[01:52] <william__> ok i got 14.10 to start.  now it does not want to mount my partitions.  i can see them both on the osx looking menu and in gparted but they are not mounted or mounting.
[01:53] <hipitihop> I'm on 14.04 and recently (last week or so) it seems inotifywait or related seems not to be working. I use leiningen to auto compile whenever files are changed and saved in a directory but now does not trigger on save. Is this likey something changed in recent buntu updates ?
[01:53] <Wamphyri> william__ as far as i can tell no, but when the install screen is up on the gui neither button works
[01:54] <k2gremlin> What do you guys think of Webmin?
[01:54] <somsip> !info webmin | k2gremlin
[01:54] <k1l> !webmin
[01:54] <Wamphyri> k2gremlin its alright need patients for it
[01:54] <k1l> ^
[01:55] <k2gremlin> Is there anything along the lines of server admin that would be better. Specifically for a gui interface on samba?
[01:55] <NegativeFlare> k2gremlin: yes
[01:55] <NegativeFlare> one sec
[01:55] <k2gremlin> rrgr
[01:56] <NegativeFlare> k2gremlin: sudo apt-get install system-config-samba
[01:56] <william__> how can i see why my partitions aren't mounting
[01:57] <k2gremlin> NegativeFlare, thanks I will look into it
[01:57] <NegativeFlare> william__: If you're using a GPT table, then I'm not sure it'll work.
[01:57] <NegativeFlare> k2gremlin: no problem
[01:58] <william__> NegativeFlare: i don't know what that means.  i was using mint 11 before.
[01:58] <NegativeFlare> william__: GPT Partition Table
[01:58] <NegativeFlare> The Table that Mac uses for its paritions
[01:59] <william__> no i was using ext3, and ext4, and one ntfs
[01:59] <k2gremlin> NegativeFlare, do you end up webbing into the samba? Im running Server with no desktop. :)
[01:59] <NegativeFlare> k2gremlin: Sorta, why?
[01:59] <NegativeFlare> william__: I'm not sure what's going on then.
[02:00] <k2gremlin> I don't want to put a desktop on the server :) Just want to web into everything I can lol
[02:00] <bynarie> anyone know why when close my laptop lid and open it back up, i cant get my screen back on?(14.10)
[02:01] <NegativeFlare> k2gremlin: well, you did say GUI :P
[02:01] <bubbasaures> william__, pastebin the output of running sudo parted -l and ex[plain what is what partiton and which wont mount from where.
[02:01] <k2gremlin> lol
[02:02] <k2gremlin> NegativeFlare, Ok once installed how would you connect to it? or view it? lol
[02:02] <NegativeFlare> Its a GUI program
[02:02] <NegativeFlare> Just run it
[02:03] <NegativeFlare> But it requires a desktop enviroment
[02:04] <k2gremlin> lol
[02:04] <eblip> you need to install xorg to run a gui
[02:04] <NegativeFlare> eblip: of course
[02:05] <k2gremlin> NegativeFlare, do you know if you have the capabilities to "map" a network drive with Samba?
[02:06] <Wamphyri> lol guess i'm destined not to use ubuntu
[02:06] <eblip> why not wamphyri
[02:07] <k2gremlin> Im destined to use it.... but im learning very slowly lol
[02:07] <NegativeFlare> I've been using Linux for over 5 years
[02:07] <eblip> its the best desktop there is if you like windows and guis and clicking on menus and stuff...its like linux without the linux
[02:07] <k2gremlin> Well what I am trying to do is setup a plex server... but I need it to "map" to a network drive
[02:07] <Wamphyri> eblip mouse doesnt work on install
[02:07] <NegativeFlare> Alright guys, you do know that this is a support channel :P
[02:07] <eblip> ah then you may need a driver
[02:07] <Wamphyri> eblip i'm fluent enough with linux lol
[02:07] <NegativeFlare> if you want to talk about offtopic stuff goto: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:07] <k2gremlin> NegativeFlare, that's why I am here! :)
[02:08] <Wamphyri> eblip mouse curser is there and moves BUT left click doesn't work
[02:08] <NegativeFlare> k2gremlin: if you're wanting to MOUNT (aka map on windows) on linux
[02:08] <NegativeFlare> I can help you with that
[02:08] <LinStatSDR> UI's are for the weak.
[02:08] <NegativeFlare> !samba | k2gremlin
[02:09] <k2gremlin> perfect NegativeFlare!
[02:09] <NegativeFlare> Glad I could help
[02:09] <k2gremlin> So CIFS is the way to go.
[02:09] <NegativeFlare> k2gremlin: It works quite well.
[02:10] <eblip> maybe you should try downloading a driver package not sure what its called but i think there is a bunch of drivers you can install
[02:10] <k2gremlin> Ok ill get cracking. Ill let you know if I run into any issues. Thanks a bunch
[02:10] <NegativeFlare> No Problem man
[02:11] <william__> bubbasaures: nothing will mount pastebin.com/BswtW2ZF
[02:12] <eblip> http://askubuntu.com/questions/6337/usb-mouse-moves-but-doesnt-accept-left-clicks
[02:12] <eblip> have a look at that wamphyri
[02:12] <eblip> its a bug
[02:12] <bubbasaures> william__, Are you booted to any partition shown?
[02:13] <william__> no
[02:13] <bubbasaures> william__, Live ubuntu?
[02:13] <william__> bubbasaures: yes live.
[02:14] <bubbasaures> william__, Hmm, strange none will mount, I assume you know the various ways.
[02:15] <william__> i tried via gparted and the leftside menu thing
[02:15] <bubbasaures> william__, This an apple computer?
[02:16] <Wamphyri> eblip i'm at the very first screen of the install theres nothing installed. i'm trying to get ubuntu installed
[02:16] <william__> bubbasaures: no this is a hommade pc
[02:16] <snappy> q: i have installed latest versions of haproxy but apt-get complains when i do 'apt-get install haproxy', relevant info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9206405/
[02:16] <bubbasaures> william__, All internal HD's
[02:16] <william__> yes
[02:16] <eblip> thats not a good start
[02:16] <Wamphyri> nope lol
[02:16] <eblip> i would start the install again and see what happens
[02:16] <Wamphyri> lol
[02:17] <Wamphyri> 4 times now
[02:17] <eblip> in that case i think you should use another mouse
[02:17] <Wamphyri> tried console install and gui install
[02:17] <Wamphyri> nothing wrong with the mouse
[02:17] <NegativeFlare> snappy: Are you using any ppa's?
[02:17] <eblip> at least until you get a working install
[02:17] <snappy> yeah, they are ppas
[02:17] <bubbasaures> william__, So what got you here, this a sudden event?
[02:17] <eblip> no there is nothing wrong with the mouse...but it wont work until you can get hte correct drivers
[02:18] <eblip> which you cant really do until the install is complete
[02:18] <NegativeFlare> snappy: that's really weird. And you're using the same version I am
[02:18] <NegativeFlare> Let me try something
[02:18] <Wamphyri> its a microsoft mouse -.-
[02:18] <eblip> yes
[02:18] <william__> bubbasaures: i am running mint14, but i tried to force it to upgrade, and now its upgrade is broken.  i was like oh i'll go back to ubuntu.  i'm in the live cd, and don't want to install untill i see it works
[02:19] <bish0p_> Can anyone here help me fix lightdm? It's not starting on boot and I need to start it manually through the terminal to log in
[02:19] <Bashing-om> bubbasaures: william__ "Disk /dev/sda: 400GB >> Partition Table: loop" I have never seen this before on a hard drive, thoughts ?
[02:19] <glitch1> Hi
[02:20] <glitch1> I'm having a problem with bash
[02:20] <william__> bubbasaures: no idea.  it's 512B so maybe it's misreading grub?
[02:20] <Wamphyri> eblip its a generic usb mouse
[02:20] <snappy> so we have lucid and trusty packages on the /same repo/ which is shared; apt-get doesn't distinguish, even though /etc/apt/sources.list explicitly defines lucid (10.04)
[02:20] <glitch1> ./palemoon-bin
[02:20] <glitch1> bash: ./palemoon-bin: No such file or directory
[02:20] <bubbasaures> Bashing-om, yeah strange
[02:20] <eblip> yes a microsoft generic mouse
[02:20] <NegativeFlare> snappy: Um, its working just fine for me
[02:20] <glitch1> it does exist for a fact and
[02:20] <snappy> (no wait, i could be wrong)
[02:20] <glitch1> I have it typed properly
[02:20] <Wamphyri> its worked before in ubuntu
[02:21] <william__> bubbasaures: nevermind that's the sector size.  ok i dont know
[02:21] <k1l> glitch1: ls -al palemoon-bin       that gives you what?
[02:22] <glitch1> k1l /usr/lib/palemoon$ ls -al palemoon-bin
[02:22] <glitch1> -rwxrwxr-x 1 root jordan 155192 Nov 10 17:25 palemoon-bin
[02:23] <Wamphyri> glitch1 try using sudo
[02:23] <glitch1> I've tried from a root terminal
[02:23] <Wamphyri> your in a regular user account trying to execute a file owned by root
[02:23] <glitch1> same exact result
[02:23] <william__> bubbasaures: that is the only one with the error in gparted.  the error is unexpected clisters per mft record (-1) failed to mount 'dev/sda': invalid argument the device /dev/sda doesn't have a valid NTFS.  maybe you selected thre wrong device?  or the whole disk instead of a partition or the other way around? (eg /dev/hda, not /dev/hda1)
[02:24] <nrdb> I am getting this line in syslog .... Nov 24 13:15:33 localhost kernel: [932612.808043] type=1503 audit(1416795333.987:41):  operation="exec" pid=10472 parent=28413 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd" requested_mask="::x" denied_mask="::x" fsuid=7 ouid=0 name="/usr/share/lib/cups/filter/epson_inkjet_printer_filter" .... does this mean that the file isn't allow to be executed?
[02:24] <Wamphyri> glitch1 try chmod 777 filename
[02:24] <william__> bubbasaures: and it does work in mint.  it might need the windows fsck thingy
[02:24] <bubbasaures> william__, I'm not sure what your referencing and how, seems to be the sda HD mount.
[02:24] <k1l> Wamphyri: that is not the issue. blindly running stuff as root or chmod777 is not very secure
[02:24] <imastupidguest> Not sure if this is a good place to ask this, but, I was pondering something... If encrypted traffic can be sent over a network (ie: the internet); and if <IP_ADDRESS> (the loopback address) can be considered a network or works just like one; and if <IP_ADDRESS> is how an o/s does its interprocess communication at the lowest level --> Then couldn't one encrypt the traffic across <IP_ADDRESS>, create or include some kernel module with an e
[02:24] <imastupidguest> encryption key, and ultimately have a super secure core system??
[02:25] <bubbasaures> william__, windows is a chkdsk /f tes
[02:25] <bubbasaures> yes*
[02:25] <glitch1> Wamphyri I've tried it in a root terminal, anyways, I have already done so
[02:26] <william__> !chkdsk
[02:26] <bubbasaures> william__, That sda partition looks strange to us so move with caution
[02:27] <glitch1> Also ldd ./palemoon-bin says that it's not a dynamic executable
[02:27] <william__> would it help if i booted into mint and gave the same parted -l pastebin to compre
[02:28] <bubbasaures> william__, Nah, I just wonder if you have in general let issues happen that have just consolidated in this is all.
[02:28] <eblip> why not try executing it by stating the full path glitch1
[02:28] <Wamphyri> eblip he has
[02:29] <glitch1> eblip bash: ./usr/lib/palemoon/palemoon-bin: No such file or directory
[02:29] <hipitihop> is there some config option which enables/disables folders being watched for changes ?
[02:29] <eblip> no get rid of the .
[02:29] <eblip> get rid of the full stop at the start
[02:29] <glitch1> eblip bash: /usr/lib/palemoon/palemoon-bin: No such file or directory
[02:30] <eblip> are you sure that is an exectuable
[02:30] <glitch1> 100%
[02:31] <eblip> hmm so you have an executable file in a library
[02:31] <glitch1> This makes me think there is a bug in bash
[02:31] <dem1vr> hey, guys just an idea i am having... lets say ive got filters for my emails in evolution, and I want the indicator icon to have a different item depending in which email folder the email ends up
[02:31] <glitch1> It's a fork of Firefox, and the directory layout is the same
[02:31] <glitch1> That's how it is fore Firefox
[02:31] <dem1vr> would that be much of hassle(i do know how to program ...)
[02:32] <LinStatSDR> Bash? Have bugs? Silly me.
[02:32] <glitch1> I know right?
[02:32] <eblip> have you tried taking a copy of the file and running it somewhere else
[02:32] <glitch1> I don't know what it's going to take to get everyone to just move awayfrom it... Maybe if it starts wiping hard drives
[02:32] <glitch1> Yes I have
[02:33] <nrdb> I am getting this line in syslog .... Nov 24 13:15:33 localhost kernel: [932612.808043] type=1503 audit(1416795333.987:41):  operation="exec" pid=10472 parent=28413 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd" requested_mask="::x" denied_mask="::x" fsuid=7 ouid=0 name="/usr/share/lib/cups/filter/epson_inkjet_printer_filter" .... what does this line mean?  Is this allowed to be executed by this user?
[02:34] <glitch1> It also works fine for other people as there hasn't been anyone complaining about it to the developer. It's not my system configuration, as I JUST installed Xubuntu, and the checksum came out fine
[02:36] <william__> bubbasaures: i know you don't think it'll help but here's the pastebin from mint anyway pastebin.com/8SR3VR4
[02:37] <william__> bubbasaures: oops typo http://pastebin.com/8SRA3VR4
[02:37] <bubbasaures> william__, Is anything mountable from mint?
[02:37] <william__> bubbasaures: everything is
[02:38] <bubbasaures> william__, Have md5summed that live?
[02:38] <bubbasaures> have you*
[02:38] <Guest59346> disk size , shouldn't it be the other way where used is the disk size and avalible is 0
[02:38] <william__> i checked the image not the disk
[02:39] <Guest59346> when i df a dvd disk size , shouldn't it be the other way where used is the disk size and avalible is 0
[02:40] <bubbasaures> william__, I would consider it bad I think, that all looks fine, different HD order is all.
[02:41] <usr13> glitch1: who|pastebinit  #show us url
[02:41] <glitch1> usr13 ?
[02:42] <usr13> glitch1: What is your problem?
[02:42] <Wamphyri> lol
[02:42] <glitch1> usr13 bash seems to think that no file exists when I try executing the file that I am sitting there looking at...
[02:43] <Jaded-J> If I want to run apache on a server with 2GB ram and a dual core CPU, should I use 32-bit or 64-bit ubuntu server?
[02:43] <k1l> glitch1: run from another account, not the root one
[02:43] <usr13> glitch1: Type  who   Hit enter.  Tell us what it says.
[02:43] <usr13> glitch1: Or just:  who|pastebinit  #show us url
[02:43] <glitch1> k1l I have no other accounts, and I won't make a new one because of security reasons
[02:44] <k1l> glitch1: i just tested it with the firefox in the usr/lib/firefox and that works with that permissions: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 108752 Okt 13 23:00 /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
[02:44] <usr13> glitch1: So what account do you have?  (What is the user name?)
[02:44] <k1l> glitch1: so its not a ubuntu at all?
[02:44] <glitch1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9206720/
[02:45] <Seven_Six_Two> nautilus and disk utility won't let me mount partitions on second hd
[02:47] <usr13> glitch1: cat /etc/issue #Tell us what that says.
[02:47] <Wamphyri> not sure if anyone has come across this issue, but i'm trying to install ubuntu 14.10 my mouse works except for the left click button, keyboard works as well. both mouse and keyboard are usb, any ideas why the left click doesn't work?
[02:47] <glitch1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9206746/
[02:48] <william__> bubbasaures: should i reburn the same 14.10
[02:48] <Seven_Six_Two> in a live dvd, I get the error "Not authorized to perform operation (udisks-error-quark, 3)" when trying to mount any partition on second sata drive.
[02:48] <usr13> glitch1: Ok.  So what did you say you did from the root terminal?
[02:49] <glitch1> usr13 ./palemoon-bin
[02:49] <k1l> glitch1: iirc everything must be root:root in there
[02:50] <Guest59346> anyone, i am not trolling , i realy would like to know
[02:50] <glitch1> k1l That defeats the purpose, as I'm trying to get it to run as my user, not as root
[02:50] <bubbasaures> william__, What do you think? seems like a place to start if you need to see that normal on it booted. The live should mount easily.
[02:50] <k2gremlin> I ssh'ed into a VM yesterday with an ip of .22 I rebuilt that ubuntu VM today but I am not able to ssh into it when I assign it .22  when I change it to .23 it works. I am on Windows 7. Anyway to delete the old server key for .22 ?
[02:50] <k1l> glitch1: that is not the issue
[02:50] <william__> bubbasaures: reburning now...i'll let you know either way
[02:51] <k1l> glitch1: see the owners of firefox in its usr/lib. its root:root to and runs fine
[02:51] <glitch1> I set it to root:root and still the same thing
[02:52] <usr13> glitch1: Why did you try to run it as root?
[02:52] <glitch1> usr13 It makes 0 difference, everything I do with it gives the same result as root or as my user
[02:53] <nrdb> I am getting this line in syslog .... Nov 24 13:15:33 localhost kernel: [932612.808043] type=1503 audit(1416795333.987:41):  operation="exec" pid=10472 parent=28413 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd" requested_mask="::x" denied_mask="::x" fsuid=7 ouid=0 name="/usr/share/lib/cups/filter/epson_inkjet_printer_filter" .... what does this line mean?  Is this allowed to be executed by this user?
[02:54] <usr13> glitch1: Ok. Well, I suppose it is broken?
[02:55] <glitch1> usr13 The binary? No it isn't, the checksum matches, and no one else has had a problem with it
[02:55] <k1l> glitch1: what if you go to the users home and then "/usr/lib/palemoon../palemoon.."   dont know the names
[02:56] <glitch1> k1l I've tried doing it in literally every possible way, I've tried copying the name to the terminal, I've tried renaming it, and renaming it back again, and no matter what bash claims it can't find it
[02:58] <sacarlson> glitch1 should we assume you have the file in a patititon that allows excecute?    what directory is the file, and what is the format type of the partition it is located in ?
[02:58] <k1l> glitch1: my point now was to not execut it from the usr/lib directory
[02:59] <glitch1> k1l I've tried extracting it to a folder on my desktop with the same result
[02:59] <k1l> which i just tested and should not be an issue
[02:59] <glitch1> sacarlson It's on my / partition
[03:00] <k1l> glitch1: maybe its the program itself hafing issues?
[03:00] <sacarlson> glitch1 in this line above you used relitive path not real full path ./usr/lib/palemoon/palemoon-bin
[03:00] <glitch1> k1l The program itself is not ever being touched, bash just claims it can't find it
[03:00] <glitch1> sacarlson I've used the full path earlier
[03:01] <glitch1> I'm going to try an older version of their installer and see if that installs it
[03:02] <sacarlson> glitch1 and you can ls /usr/lib/palemoon   ;  and see this file?
[03:05] <usr13> glitch1: Firefox is pretty good.  In my opinion, we should leave well enough alone.
[03:05] <glitch1> sacarlson yes
[03:06] <usr13> glitch1: Is anything in it?
[03:06] <glitch1> usr13 It's absolutely terrible with the last 33 version and getting worse with each new version, it's behind only Chromium/Chrome
[03:06] <glitch1> usr13 yea, everything is there
[03:06] <usr13> glitch1: Ok
[03:07] <sacarlson> glitch1 I'm about out of ideas,  aparmor ?  restricted shell ?  maybe a lib or other file used in the bin has the restrictions?
[03:07] <usr13> glitch1: so what happens when you do /usr/lib/palemoon/palemoon
[03:07] <usr13> ?
[03:08] <easyheart> hello,when i install gnome-music,encounted an error:
[03:08] <usr13> glitch1: You may have to hit the tab key a time or two, not sure what the file-name will be.
[03:08] <easyheart> ***Error***: some autoconf macros required to build gnome-music
[03:08] <easyheart>   were not found in your aclocal path, or some forbidden
[03:08] <easyheart>   macros were found.  Perhaps you need to adjust your
[03:08] <easyheart>   ACLOCAL_FLAGS?
[03:08] <william__> bubbasaures: same problem with new dvd.  verified but no better.
[03:08] <glitch1> sacarlson nope, none of those apply
[03:09] <bubbasaures> william__, Not sure really a bit of an anomaly for me.
[03:09] <glitch1> usr13 same deal
[03:09] <basil1x> Palemoon would be nice... if all the plugins worked.
[03:11] <glitch1> usr13 sacarlson k1l Thank you for your help, the previous version of their installer worked, so I'm just going to assume that there is a new bug in bash and ignore it since manual installation is no longer needed
[03:11] <sacarlson> glitch1 oh and also the privs on  /usr/lib/palemoon  directory ?   ls -l  /usr/lib/palemoon  and also bellow privs  ls -l /usr/lib ;
[03:12] <Hganavak> daftykins: You still around? I just returned from the store in shame, realized I have a single 2TB drive, not a RAID setup.
[03:12] <glitch1> You guys on this irc are more helpful the the people on the Mint, arch, and Firefox IRCs have been for other issues I've had
[03:13] <Hganavak> ^I agree. First time I've asked on here and I've been super impressed
[03:13] <k1l> sacarlson: well glitch1 he could have a point there. see the permissions of that folder in /usr/lib/
[03:13] <velhop4> hello friends!
[03:14] <glitch1> k1l It's been overwritten by the installer now, so I can't check anymore, but I had thunar set the permissions recursively
[03:14] <Hganavak> Is a 20GB / partition big enough for someone who's going to be using it as their main distro? I'm not really sure what gets put in there besides the core files
[03:14] <velhop4> I just installed and updated Ubuntu's last version in my Pentium 4 and this is really slow. Can I make it run faster? Thank you
[03:15] <glitch1> velhop4 Try installing Xubuntu or Lubuntu instead, they use a lighter desktop environment
[03:15] <bubbasaures> velhop4, A lighter desktop is where I would be.
[03:15] <k1l> velhop4: with a pentium 4 i would suggest to got with Lubuntu
[03:16] <Wamphyri> not sure if anyone has come across this issue, but i'm trying to install ubuntu 14.10 my mouse works except for the left click button, keyboard works as well. both mouse and keyboard are usb, any ideas why the left click doesn't work?
[03:16] <glitch1> Hganavak I would at least double if not triple it
[03:17] <Hganavak> glitch1: What gets put in it? :( My problem is I'm trying to dual boot with windows, both of which are sharing a 128GB SSD
[03:17] <edition> why isn't Liberation Sans used as the default UI font in ubuntu?
[03:17] <sacarlson> Wamphyri: does the mouse work on another system?  I have that problem but my problem is hardware in my mouse is broken
[03:17] <glitch1> Hganavak Unless you need very few programs and files
[03:17] <glitch1> everything
[03:17] <k2gremlin> Hmm think I broke my VM ubuntu networking lol
[03:17] <Hganavak> Everything except your documents?
[03:17] <velhop4> glitch1, bubbasaures k1l  whats the difference between Xubuntu and Lubuntu? Can I replace this Ubuntu installation without changing my dual boot with Windows?
[03:18] <Hganavak> I thought all your documents get put in /home glitch1?
[03:18] <Wamphyri> sacarlson yeah
[03:18] <glitch1> Hganavak They do, but unless you make another partition for /home it goes inside the / partition
[03:18] <Wamphyri> in windoze
[03:19] <glitch1> Wamphyri what mouse, model?
[03:19] <Hganavak> glitch1: Ya that's fine, I was planning on putting everything except / on my HDD, while I partitioned / to be on the SSD? That make sense?
[03:19] <Wamphyri> microsoft
[03:19] <aeon-ltd> velhop4: different desktop environments; guis
[03:19] <k2gremlin> nvm fixed it :P
[03:19] <Wamphyri> plain jane
[03:20] <glitch1> Hganavak Then as long as you don't install too many programs, you should be fine if you put /home on a different drive
[03:21] <glitch1> velhop4 The interface is the main difference. Anyways, you can install it over your current ubuntu install on the same partition
[03:21] <Hganavak> glitch1: Hmm, I was planning on installing lots of stuff. Do apps mainly get put in /? I thought they got spread around /bin and /usr. Which I was planning on putting on the HDD
[03:22] <bubbasaures> velhop4, You can just add desktops, wont effect windows.
[03:23] <glitch1> Hganavak They usually do, but sometimes they don't follow location conventions, and they don't start any faster if they are on the HDD
[03:25] <Hganavak> glitch1: So if 30GB's around the max I can allocate to /, should I bother? Or should I just install the whole thing on the HDD?
[03:25] <glitch1> In other words your system will boot up 2-4 times faster, but your applications will not
[03:25] <Hganavak> glitch1: Sounds like a lot of effort just for a faster bootup speed when you put it like that!
[03:26] <glitch1> 30GB is fine unless you plan on installing a LOT of big apps
[03:26] <bynarie> anyone ever hear of software center being deleted by running apt-get autoremove?
[03:26] <glitch1> I don't know how many you plan to use, or how big your apps are, so I cannot tell you for sure
[03:27] <Hganavak> glitch1: Umm, I spose the big things I'd be installing would be IDEs and Steam. But ya I understand that
[03:28] <glitch1> With Steam you could symlink the steamapps folder to an ext3/4 partition on your HDD
[03:28] <bubbasaures> bynarie, If you removed some meta package first yes
[03:29] <glitch1> You should be able too anyways, if it doesn't let you pick an installation directory
[03:29] <bynarie> well i installed wine... then uninstalled it... then did autoremove
[03:29] <Hganavak> glitch1: Besides just bootup speed, wouldn't most OS interaction be faster too? I mean system things, just using Unity, opening pre-installed apps etc
[03:29] <Hganavak> Kernerl operations that don't require IO to the HDD?
[03:29] <bynarie> and BAM a ton of software was gone... tons of settings were altered
[03:30] <Hganavak> (If this is a thing, I really dunno what I'm talking about)
[03:30] <glitch1> Since you seem to be less experienced with Linux, I would recommend installing the whole thing to the HDD and revisiting it later when you have a better idea of what you want from it and what your requirments are
[03:30] <glitch1> Anything already open won't benefit from a faster drive, except for swap
[03:31] <bynarie> bubbasaures, what do you mean by meta packages?
[03:31] <SchrodingersScat> !metapackage | bynarie
[03:32] <Haunt_House2> There's a feature that you can spread all windows of the same type by double clicking the icon on the left side. I managed to break that. What's the name of this behavior? I think I used Unity tweak tool, but I cant find the setting
[03:32] <glitch1> The only difference an SSD makes is that it loads your OS, programs, and files faster
[03:33] <bynarie> so its basically like a "list" of packages ? for example, ubuntu-desktop? not a real package itself but contains several smaller packages to make up the "ubuntu-desktop"
[03:33] <Hganavak> glitch1: Alrighty, you're quite right I have practically no experience with Linux. I'll just install it to the HDD then
[03:33] <bubbasaures> bynarie, You have it, that what you removed?
[03:34] <bynarie> yes i think i may have
[03:34] <Hganavak> If I do install it to the HDD (just allocating some space now), will everything still work fine even though the OS I'm dual booting with (Windows) is installed on a seperate drive (the SSD)?
[03:34] <bynarie> i just reimaged and got back to normal.. it was just very odd
[03:34] <glitch1> That's probably the best idea for now. Once you know how much resources everything requires, you can revisit installing it to the SSD later
[03:35] <Hganavak> glitch1: Yup just giving it a go now, before I proceed could you answer the above though - sorry for being such a pain
[03:36] <rayq_sec> hey folks.  I want to install LaTeX packages on multiple computers. It's a huge download, and bandwidth is limited. I've downloaded on one machine and want...
[03:36] <glitch1> It should, though you will have to tell it to install the bootloader to your SSD
[03:37] <glitch1> Or you can choose to boot the HDD from the BIOS
[03:37] <rayq_sec> to move it to another from the /var/apt/cache/archives.  Any issues with copy the whole lot and using sudo dpkg -i * ?
[03:37] <Hganavak> glitch1: The bootloader doesn't take up much space?
[03:38] <glitch1> Also np, helping out a couple of people with thing I'm familiar with is the least I can do after a couple of other people helped me
[03:38] <glitch1> No, it's extremely small actually
[03:39] <glitch1> Windows has it's own bootloader which Linux will overwrite
[03:39] <Seven_Six_Two> I just acquired a computer with an ati card, and I was wondering if ppl recommend staying with the wrapper driver or switching to proprietary or proprietary-updates
[03:39] <glitch1> The windows bootloader can actually boot Linux, though it's complicated to set up
[03:40] <glitch1> What ATI card exactly?
[03:40] <Haunt_House2> There's a feature that you can spread all windows of the same type by double clicking the icon on the left side. I managed to break that. What's the name of this behavior? I think I used Unity tweak tool, but I cant find the setting
[03:41] <Seven_Six_Two> ATI Radeon HD 5450 1GB DDR3
[03:41] <glitch1> Just stick with the open source driver
[03:41] <Seven_Six_Two> I am trying to get 3 monitors working...
[03:43] <Hganavak> glitch1: Okay I'm just creating the USB installer now thanks. So I have to shrink the SSD or anything before I put the bootloader on it?
[03:43] <glitch1> It works with the open source driver, though I don't know how to configure it, I could figure out how to configure it on Xubuntu 14.04+ though
[03:43] <glitch1> Hganavak You're welcome, you shouldn't need to modify any partitions on the SSD
[03:44] <Seven_Six_Two> I've read that it can work, but only if 2 share a clock. I have 2 monitors that are 1680*1050, so maybe they are the same. why xubuntu? I read that it might not work in unity, but I don't care about unity.
[03:44] <velhop4> glitch1, bubbasaures k1l  aeon-ltd thank you friends! I'm gonna study that. open hugs
[03:44] <glitch1> velhop4 You're welcome
[03:44] <yeiner> hola
[03:45] <glitch1> You need to use the right ports on the card, but I am not sure of which ones as they are dependant on the card in question
[03:45] <Hganavak> glitch1: Is the bootloader not located in the /boot partition?
[03:46] <glitch1> Hganavak Not the part that matters for this
[03:48] <Seven_Six_Two> interesting. with 3 plugged in, my desktop expands to 3 monitors, but the monitor doesn't turn on. Maybe this is that unity issue
[03:49] <k2gremlin> Someone was helping me earlier with a CIFS to mount a network drive. Is he still here?
[03:49] <Hganavak> glitch1: Alright grabbed another beer from the fridge and ready to dive in now. Don't spose you're gonna be around for the next 20 minutes or so in case things catch fire?
[03:49] <glitch1> It could be a Unity issue
[03:49] <k2gremlin> NegativeFlare, Are you still around?
[03:50] <glitch1> Hganavak Yea I can stick around for another 20 minutes or so, though I might need to reboot a couple of times during it
[03:50] <Hganavak> glitch1: Cheers buddy ^_^
[03:50] <glitch1> np
[03:51] <edwin> hola ke tal
[03:51] <k2gremlin> /<IP_ADDRESS>/g /media/plex cifs credentials=/home/<username>/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm 0 0
[03:52] <k2gremlin> Can anyone tell me why this won't mount?
[03:52] <k2gremlin> I don't get any errors with mount -a
[03:52] <yeiner> hola edwin
[03:53] <NegativeFlare> k2gremlin: What's up?
[03:53] <glitch1> k2gremlin I don't know anything a plex or cifs, but <IP_ADDRESS> appears to be the IP of your router
[03:53] <NegativeFlare> <IP_ADDRESS> isn't a router
[03:54] <k2gremlin> Well NegativeFlare, I went through the walkthough to mount a windows share..
[03:54] <rodney77> hi, i got a computer with a SiS 771/671 Mirage 3 video card. I downloaded and installed the deb package from: http://zatherz.cba.pl/sis/
[03:54] <k2gremlin> its not.. lol
[03:54] <NegativeFlare> That's an IP, on the network most likely
[03:54] <k2gremlin> :) ^
[03:54] <k2gremlin> When I get to the mount -a part.... it spits no errors
[03:54] <rodney77> then I ran X -configure and I got these errors: http://pastebin.com/13M1riLc
[03:54] <k2gremlin> but fdisk -l doesnt list it
[03:55] <NegativeFlare> k2gremlin: Well have you tried cd'ing to the folder that you mounted the share on?
[03:55] <k2gremlin> huh.....................
[03:55] <rodney77> Now I'm kind of stuck. Can anyone help me out?
[03:55] <k2gremlin> its there lmfao
[03:55] <glitch1> NegativeFlare It's possible, though rarely configured as such, usually it is <IP_ADDRESS>xx or <IP_ADDRESS>xx
[03:55] <k2gremlin> why doesnt that show up on fdisk
[03:56] <NegativeFlare> k2gremlin: I'm not sure
[03:56] <NegativeFlare> glitch1: Very unlikely though.
[03:56] <k2gremlin> glitch1, Its not usually.... only if configured that way. Most home routers come out of the box as <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS> lol
[03:57] <glitch1> NegativeFlare Yea, usually the router takes the single digit IP for itself and hands out double-digit and triple-digit IP
[03:57] <NegativeFlare> mhm
[03:57] <NegativeFlare> wait
[03:58] <glitch1> I've just rarely seen a router give out a single digit on the 4th part of the IP
[03:58] <NegativeFlare> k2gremlin: fdisk won't show it
[03:58] <NegativeFlare> its not a physical partition
[03:58] <k2gremlin> Oh I C
[03:58] <k2gremlin> ty :P
[03:58] <NegativeFlare> df -ha
[03:58] <NegativeFlare> Use that ^
[03:58] <k2gremlin>  bingo !
[03:58] <NegativeFlare> That'll show what's mounted, even if its a network drive
[03:58] <Bashing-om> rodney77: Not good, that graphics card, but there is some help: start with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2215422 .
[03:58] <glitch1> Hganavak I'll be afk, just message my name so my speakers beep
[04:01] <rodney77> thanks Bashing-om. I followed the link and typed the command sudo lshw -C video
[04:02] <aoeuh> I'm having troubles installing ubuntu  14.10 on an (old) intel ssd. Tried twice installing (once with manual partitioning, once with default use whole disk), both result in not booting. I get dropped into a busybox shell with the message that the root disk cannot be found (/dev/disk-by-uuid/<uuid> does not exist)
[04:02] <k2gremlin> grrr... apt-get update spitting errors :/
[04:02] <rodney77> you know what, I think I need lubuntu
[04:02] <k2gremlin> could not resolve hostname..
[04:02] <aoeuh> I tried chrooting into the system and running an initramfs update and grub update, to no avail, any tips to get it working/booting?
[04:02] <SilencedBV> What is the best way to start web development ?
[04:02] <NegativeFlare> k2gremlin: uh oh
[04:02] <TheHganavak> glitch1: I just booted to the flash drive, anyway  I see my BIOS interface was some fancy Asus UEFI thingy. Though when I checked earlier I thought I found out that Windows was installed in legacy mode? Is there anything I should worry about before proceeding?
[04:02] <k2gremlin> yea I have my def gw setup.. not sure why
[04:03] <k2gremlin> I can ping out... but it wont resolve hostnames lmfao
[04:03] <k2gremlin> son of a..
[04:03] <Bashing-om> rodney77: lubuntu is the recommnedation. may still hve to creat e the Xorg.conf file (?) .
[04:03] <Bashing-om> have*
[04:03] <glitch1> Hganavak Ahh, ASUS... I see in your future a world of hurt caused by your motherboard, though not likely to affect your Linux installation right now
[04:04] <glitch1> I hate my M5A99FX, worse motherboard ever
[04:04] <rodney77> thanks, Bashing-om
[04:04] <TheHganavak> glitch1: Oh dear :( Anyway, anything I should worry about now?
[04:04] <Bashing-om> rodney77: Unity is 3D, and that card will not support 3D .
[04:05] <glitch1> Hganavak Not really, Linux is pretty good about dealing with UEFI boards
[04:05] <TheHganavak> Oh okay, I was under the impression it caused issues
[04:05] <glitch1> Hganavak It shouldn't
[04:07] <TheHganavak> glitch1: Just confirmed my BIOS mode is set to Legacy  in  Windows anyway - if that matters
[04:08] <glitch1> Hganavak It shouldn't
[04:10] <k2gremlin> Ok any ideas as to why my server will not resolve hostnames? I can't even get updates :/
[04:11] <nsfwwwww> hey guys
[04:12] <nsfwwwww> can someone help me about indicator applets?
[04:12] <Madeline> Hello
[04:13] <nsfwwwww> ey guys
[04:13] <Madeline> Whats up?
[04:13] <TheHganavak> glitch1: I see that now ^_^ Now that I've allocated 250GB on my HDD, should I select 'Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 8' or 'Something else'?
[04:14] <nsfwwwww> hey can somone check the indicator applet bug? i cant see my icons on right side of the panel
[04:14] <glitch1> I honestly don't know what the automatic option does, as I haven't ever used them, I would select something else and see what it offers you
[04:14] <nsfwwwww> sample pic http://imgur.com/MKeNJm6
[04:15] <k2gremlin> trying to setup my DNS... when I open the resolv.conf file it says...
[04:15] <k2gremlin>  Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
[04:15] <k2gremlin> #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[04:16] <k2gremlin> So should I not add DNS here?
[04:16] <jdecuirm_> Hi ubuntu friends! i need some help with a particular device i have troubles with
[04:16] <TheHganavak> glitch1: Cool, I see my free space under /dev/sda. I also see my SSD (/dev/sdb). I have no idea what any of these terms represent but cool
[04:17] <glitch1> Set /dev/sda mountpoint to /
[04:17] <jdecuirm_> i bought an hp pavilion laptop the 11-n010la x360 model
[04:17] <glitch1> That will tell the installer to install it there
[04:17] <glitch1> /dev/sda1 I mean
[04:17] <jdecuirm_> the red one with beats audio and all that stuff
[04:17] <glitch1> or whatever your freepsace is
[04:17] <jdecuirm_> i have to boot the livecd with nomodeset
[04:18] <jdecuirm_> but at all instances it just crash with the videocard driver i guess
[04:18] <jdecuirm_> bad resolution and all
[04:18] <TheHganavak> glitch1: It just says free space. I've got /dev/sda and then three things indented under it: /dev/sda1, dev/sda2 and freespace
[04:18] <a_pizza_man> Good evening all.
[04:19] <glitch1> Format all but 4GB of your free space to ext4
[04:19] <glitch1> 4096MB = 4GB
[04:20] <glitch1> That should become /dev/sda3
[04:20] <mindless_chaos> something ponderous, couldn't find an answer with a quick google search. When ever I apt-get or update software, it asks me to add a new user.. any ideas?
[04:20] <mindless_chaos> and appeasing it doesnt work, because if I make up a username, it doesnt continue
[04:20] <mindless_chaos> I have to kill the adduser processs
[04:21] <k0nichiwa> what version ubuntu are u on ?
[04:21] <k2gremlin> ok my DNS is dead on my server :/ this hurts bad lol
[04:21] <mindless_chaos> latest stable
[04:21] <TheHganavak> glitch1: I'm not sure how to translate your instructions into actions :( Do you have any recommendations on guides for setting up the partitions? Assuming I don't have to do anything different with my Windows bootloader installed on a different drive?
[04:21] <k0nichiwa> are there some packages that want to add a user ?
[04:21] <mindless_chaos> I recently clean installed it
[04:21] <k0nichiwa> maybe u have a package thats getting update and does that as part of installed
[04:22] <mindless_chaos> then I updated software
[04:22] <glitch1> What screen are you at now?
[04:22] <k0nichiwa> is your username "ubuntu" ?
[04:22] <a_pizza_man> Question for anyone with exprience.  I'm migrating from 2012 R2 to ubuntu.  I have 1 Intel SSD that I want to use a boot drive, then 4 1TB Blacks that I want to run in RAID 10 for storing all large data, can I accomplish this on install or do I need to configure after I install to only the SSD
[04:22] <TheHganavak> glitch1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK7gWIkAY7s&t=5m20s
[04:22] <TheHganavak> I'm at the stage that guys up to at the linked time, whatever you call that
[04:22] <mindless_chaos> ?? so i have to make accounts when i update?? makes no sense, i have never encountered this b4
[04:23] <mindless_chaos> username is not ubuntu lol
[04:23] <k0nichiwa> i dunno i thought maybe most people use that as username
[04:23] <k0nichiwa> just cuz amazon ec2 instances that i use have that set
[04:23] <glitch1> Let me skip this ad
[04:23] <k0nichiwa> but i do apt-get all the time and i never see that, on ubuntu 14 ec2 instances amazon cloud
[04:23] <glitch1> ahh I see, click on your free space
[04:24] <mindless_chaos> i guess I will just hammer this until i figure it out
[04:24] <glitch1> then click on the plus button next to change
[04:24] <mindless_chaos> taw
[04:24] <k0nichiwa> try doing it from username ubuntu
[04:24] <Guest71548> ?
[04:24] <k0nichiwa> if like 99.9 % of people use that
[04:24] <TheHganavak> glitch1: Yup!
[04:24] <k0nichiwa> mindless users will ust use the default u know
[04:24] <glitch1> I don't know how amny MB of free space you have, but subtract 4096 from it, and put the result in the size box
[04:24] <glitch1> then set the mount point to /
[04:25] <glitch1> after that, click on the 4096MB of remaining free space
[04:25] <TheHganavak> 262146MB apparently. I shrunk my partition in Windows by 250GB
[04:25] <glitch1> hit the plus again, and set the "use as" to swap
[04:25] <TheHganavak> Okay lemme whipout that calculator
[04:26] <TheHganavak> glitch1: Did I have to change the type of partition from logical to primary or anything?c
[04:26] <glitch1> nope, just set the mount point to /
[04:27] <TheHganavak> Yup done
[04:27] <glitch1> alright
[04:27] <glitch1> did you do as I said for the remaining free space?
[04:29] <TheHganavak> Set it to swap area? Also logican?
[04:29] <TheHganavak> logical*
[04:29] <glitch1> not logical, just set the remaining free space to swap
[04:29] <TheHganavak> It's got logical checked by default
[04:29] <glitch1> does it let you select primary?
[04:29] <TheHganavak> In the youtube video he sets most things to primary, should i have done that?
[04:30] <TheHganavak> Because / was set to logical too
[04:30] <TheHganavak> Ya it does
[04:30] <glitch1> Yea, everything should be primary
[04:30] <TheHganavak> Okay
[04:30] <glitch1> I don't know why it defaulted to logical
[04:31] <TheHganavak> I guess I hit the '-' on the / mount point and create it again as primary glitch1?
[04:31] <glitch1> yea
[04:32] <TheHganavak> This is Ext4 by the way right? THta's also the default. As is location for the partition: Beginning of this space
[04:32] <glitch1> yes and yes
[04:32] <TheHganavak> glitch1: Alrighty done and done
[04:33] <glitch1> alright, I'm going to have to restart, apparently the testing release of Xfce that 14.04 is based on has a show-stopper bug
[04:33] <glitch1> whoda thunk?
[04:34] <k2gremlin> YES! got my networking sharing working... !!! :)
[04:37] <glitch1> Alright I'm back
[04:37] <TheHganavak> glitch1: Welcome back. For some reason that set my swap space to 4095MB not 4096, argh that hurts my OCD.
[04:37] <glitch1> You'll just have to let it do that
[04:38] <TheHganavak> glitch1: Hehe alrighty, where to now? Thanks again for this man
[04:38] <glitch1> You should be able to continue as long as you have your /dev/sda3 mount point set to /
[04:39] <TheHganavak> glitch1: I don't have to set a /boot partition, or a /home partition? I thought the latter was advisable for updating
[04:39] <glitch1> nope, neither
[04:39] <glitch1> I find it usually causes more problems than it has a chance at preventing
[04:40] <TheHganavak> glitch1: Alrighty. And don't needa worry about anything with my SSD?
[04:40] <glitch1> The only reason a seperate /home partition is needed on the same drive for updating would be if the distro developers screwed something up big time with the upgrader
[04:40] <glitch1> Nope
[04:41] <TheHganavak> Okay glitch1, so 'Install Now' time?
[04:41] <glitch1> If it doesn't ask you about where to install the bootloader later, then just set the HDD to the default boot device in BIOS
[04:41] <glitch1> yep
[04:45] <TheHganavak> glitch1: Alright it's doing its business now. Is this like a 10 minute process or 10 hour on a decent computer?
[04:45] <glitch1> 10-20 minutes, depends how slow your USB drive, and whether you told it to install update and/or the proprietary codecs or not
[04:50] <nmatrix9> arrrgh the viewport in for my second monitor is killing my eyes.
[04:51] <nmatrix9> Iam using ubuntu 14.04 and had a heck of a time installing the nvidia drivers.  Anyone else have experience with dual monitor setup with 14.04?
[04:52] <sacarlson> nmatrix9: I'm running dual monitor on 14.04 but with mate and using the graphics from an intel i5,  had no problems
[04:52] <glitch1> nmatrix9 I do with a 7870 with the FOSS drivers on XUbuntu 14.04
[04:53] <nmatrix9> glitch1, sacarlson none of you had any issues trying to set the seond monitor to twin view?
[04:54] <nmatrix9> as a matter of fact Iam missing that option to twin view my second monitor in my Nvidia server settings.
[04:55] <sacarlson> nmatrix9: It did work in twin view miror but I don't normaly use it in that state
[04:55] <TheHganavak> glitch1: The installing's finished but when I restart it just booted straight to Windows
[04:56] <nmatrix9> one monitor is stuck at 800x600 the other 1440x900.  I'd like it to be the larger but my view port out field in nvidia x server settings refuses to let me change it even under sudo
[04:56] <nmatrix9> sacarlson, command line or via nvidia x server settings gui conf
[04:56] <nmatrix9> ?
[04:58] <sacarlson> nmatrix9: I don't have nvidia it's running from intel i5 graphics.  the setup is done from the gui for monitor settings
[04:58] <glitch1> nmatrix twin view? You mean extended desktop, or mirroring?
[04:58] <nmatrix9> glitch1, extended desktop
[04:58] <glitch1> TheHganavak Go to your BIOS and set the HDD as the default boot device
[04:58] <nmatrix9> I mean extended desktop
[04:59] <Seven_Six_Two> I discovered that 3 monitors works fairly well in mint.
[04:59] <christian_> hello pls help. i made a check for world writable files and i get a wall of text :(
[04:59] <Seven_Six_Two> christian_: did you do a chmod that you regret?
[04:59] <glitch1> nmatrix9 I don't know what utility is available for it in Unity or with the Nvidia drivers, but on XUbuntu Xfce 4.11+ has a GUI utility that allows you to configure it, and it worked without a hitch
[05:00] <christian_> no i just installed my system
[05:01] <glitch1> nmatrix9 I suggest googling something along the lines of "multi-monitor with unity" or "multi-monitor on Linux with Nvidia drivers" and seeing what comes up
[05:01] <christian_> what is this?http://paste.ubuntu.com/9208403/
[05:01] <christian_> is this some worm?
[05:02] <EriC^^> i think that's normal
[05:02] <christian_> thats just a ssmall part
[05:02] <Seven_Six_Two> nmatrix9: I just got here. are you trying to use multiple monitors?
[05:02] <glitch1> TheHganavak You still here?
[05:03] <nmatrix9> Seven_Six_Two, yeah just struggling to get my 2nd monitor to match my primary it's stuck at 800x600
[05:03] <christian_> i used "find / -perm -2 ! -type l -ls
[05:03] <christian_> "
[05:03] <Seven_Six_Two> nmatrix9: are their native resolutions actually the same?\
[05:03] <nmatrix9> Seven_Six_Two, had a heck of a time installing the nvidia drivers and getting it to work
[05:03] <TheHganavak> glitch1: Yup, just booted from it to make sure it worked before I set it to my primary. One sec
[05:03] <nmatrix9> Seven_Six_Two, no
[05:04] <nmatrix9> Seven_Six_Two, one is a 800x600 the 1440x900
[05:04] <Seven_Six_Two> nmatrix9: that's what ubuntu has set for their resolutions, or those are their native resolutions?
[05:05] <TheHganavak> glitch1: Hmm, did it automatically after I restarted (after booting into it once) awesome!
[05:06] <glitch1> TheHganavak Good, so everything working right then?
[05:06] <nmatrix9> Seven_Six_Two, what ubuntu has set.  But the primary monitory has far more options.  The secondary monitor only has auto, 800x600 and off as options
[05:06] <Snwspeckle> Question, has anyone here ever used kamailio?
[05:06] <Seven_Six_Two> nmatrix9: what are the actual specs?
[05:07] <TheHganavak> glitch1: Appears to be running very smoothly. What is this? Nothing went wrong? D:
[05:07] <glitch1> TheHganavak lol That feel when everything actually works right for once
[05:08] <nmatrix9> Seven_Six_Two, not sure how to show you but my friend I have to go now.  I gotta get up early for work.  Maybe we can talk again tomorrow if fate permits.
[05:08] <TheHganavak> glitch1: Weeeeeeee. Thanks so much. You're my hero of the week. Anything I can do to repay ya?
[05:10] <glitch1> TheHganavak You're very welcome. The best thing you can do to repay me is to help someone else out with their problems next time you are in a position to help.
[05:11] <glitch1> Lol that sounds kinda cross when I reread it, but I mean it literally, next time you have experience with an area someone is having a problem in, go ahead and try to help them.
[05:18] <Klevre> Hello, is there a way to disable loading of gpu drivers during setup? My graphics card is fried and I would like to force cpu rendering
[05:19] <glitch1> Klevre Assuming the output from the GPU still works, you are looking for the VESA drivers
[05:19] <glitch1> I can't help you install them, but look around on google for how to switch to them for your GPU
[05:20] <Seven_Six_Two> Klevre: what makes you say your card is fried?
[05:21] <Klevre> Seven_Six_Two, I've an Acer Iconia W500 tablet (two of them actually), one of which displays a pixelated green screen full of lines before shutting down if the gpu is being used a bit
[05:22] <WyZeGuy> hey i'd be willing to bet the nsa is watching this channel right now, so let me just say i want to join the illuminati, but we should work towards human freedom not control. k?
[05:22] <Klevre> Happens in both windows and ubuntu (at least during setup so far)
[05:23] <Seven_Six_Two> Klevre: is it overheating or shutting down right away?
[05:23] <glitch1> WyzeGuy two problems with your statement, first the illuminati no longer exists, 2 they were about enlightenment and obtaining knowledge, no controlling people, and I'll add a third, no secret group is going to let you in because you asked on an IRC channel
[05:23] <Sparkles> ok
[05:23] <Sparkles> soooo archlinux or ubuntu?
[05:23] <Sparkles> what are the main differences
[05:23] <Seven_Six_Two> WyZeGuY: the nsa also watches -offtopic
[05:24] <WyZeGuY> glitch1 that was intended to make people knowledgeable about the goofy conspiracy theories to smile
[05:24] <glitch1> ALso, of course they are watching this channel, along with any other public or unencrypted private channel, what do you think they built the world's latrgest data center for?
[05:24] <Klevre> Seven_Six_Two, shuts down right away after the pixelated screen
[05:24] <WyZeGuY> glitch1 i thought that was a playground :-)
[05:24] <k2gremlin_> Ok I need help :-)
[05:24] <glitch1> Well there is a park somewhat nearby it
[05:24] <WyZeGuY> k2gremlin don't we all
[05:24] <k2gremlin_> I setup a new server as a VM.
[05:25] <WyZeGuY> glitch1 that settles it, then
[05:25] <Klevre> Seven_Six_Two, something like: http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q41/taytos/GreenDisplay.jpg
[05:25] <Wamphyri> not sure if anyone has come across this issue, but i'm trying to install ubuntu 14.10 my mouse works except for the left click button, keyboard works as well. both mouse and keyboard are usb, any ideas why the left click doesn't work?
[05:25] <TheHganavak> glitch1: Alrighty, I'll hang out here from now on. Cheers
[05:25] <k2gremlin_> I did ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> and it works perfectly as expected...
[05:26] <k2gremlin_> However when I reboot it reverts to dhcp..
[05:26] <k2gremlin_> Thoughts??
[05:26] <Wamphyri> theres a file in /etc you need to edit
[05:26] <Wamphyri> i can't think of the name right now
[05:27] <Seven_Six_Two> Klevre: can you be more specific than "if the gpu is being used a bit"? Can you do a spreadsheet without a crash? does every program crash it?
[05:27] <glitch1> TheHganavak NP
[05:27] <glitch1> WyZeGuY I bet that park is just a cover facility
[05:28] <WyZeGuY> glitch1 nah everyone's gotta take a break sometime, even government gangsters
[05:28] <k2gremlin_> Interfaces??  Those are actually little cameras so the government can watch you eat :P
[05:29] <Wamphyri> LOL
[05:30] <Klevre> Seven_Six_Two, sorry. Yes, having it run in software rendering for days doesn't make it crash. Can't use it for more than 2-5 minutes if gpu rendering is on. I tested this on Windows with graphics drivers enabled and disabled. While disabled there were no issues, when enabled pretty much leaving the tablet on could make it turn off itself. Not isolated to specific programs. Happens during Ubuntu setup as well, so I'd like to force cpu rendering.
[05:30] <glitch1> WyZeGuY They want to make sure you are getting your proper nturition
[05:30] <WyZeGuY> glitch1 it's a good thing i eat with my mouth closed cuz then they can't see anything >_<
[05:30] <ningu> I have a couple questions about installing Ubuntu on a late 2008 MacBook. (1) realistically, do both Ubuntu Desktop and Server work or should I still with Desktop? (2) I don't want to dual boot, but I want to leave the Yosemite rescue partition intact, then create ext4 + swap partitions. do I need rEFIt or similar? or not?
[05:30] <ningu> s/still/stick/
[05:30] <WyZeGuY> glitch1 how do they ensure we eat our spinach though? o_O
[05:31] <glitch1> WyZeGuY That's what the spots on the banana peels are for, those are cameras too
[05:31] <Wamphyri> explains why i don't like banana's lol
[05:31] <WyZeGuY> this s*** is bananas
[05:31] <WyZeGuY> b.a.n.a.n.a.s.
[05:31] <glitch1> LOL
[05:32] <glitch1> >these terrible conspiracy theories and puns
[05:32] <WyZeGuY> glitch1 lol i'm doing all this cuz i'm slaphappy as pergatory and i really need to go to sleep
[05:32] <Seven_Six_Two> Klevre: are ati binary drivers installed now, or opensource 3d driver?
[05:32] <WyZeGuY> glitch1 so i will force myself to bed. and you all have a wonderful night
[05:32] <ningu> I am most unclear on the rEFIt question, would much appreciate any tips on that.
[05:32] <glitch1> WyZeGuY Sounds like you need a dose of actual evidence of conspiracies, not just theories about banana cams
[05:33] <WyZeGuY> like northwoods
[05:33] <Klevre> Seven_Six_Two, how do I check? I can't get past the language selection in OS setup
[05:33] <WyZeGuY> glitch1 northwoods :-p
[05:33] <Seven_Six_Two> Klevre: it crashes during install??
[05:34] <Klevre> Seven_Six_Two, yes
[05:34] <glitch1> WyZeGuY I got one for you that's based on fact, yet you will probably shrug it off as too ridiculous to be true: http://jimstonefreelance.com/corevpro.html
[05:34] <Seven_Six_Two> Klevre: oh that's a whole other bother. dang. what media are you installing from? which iso and method?
[05:34] <WyZeGuY> glitch1 oh no not jim stone what are you doing?
[05:35] <Klevre> Seven_Six_Two, USB 14.04 x32
[05:35] <glitch1> WyZeGuY Gettin my conspiracy on
[05:35] <WyZeGuY> glitch1 please no not with the jim stone lol
[05:35] <Seven_Six_Two> would you mind discussing conspiracies in offtopic please?
[05:35] <WyZeGuY> actually i've gotta go to sleep anyway
[05:35] <WyZeGuY> bye peeps
[05:36] <glitch1> Same here
[05:36] <glitch1> night everyone
[05:36] <WyZeGuY> nighty night sweet dreams
[05:36] <giriraj> hi
[05:37] <giriraj> hi
[05:38] <SilencedBV> Hi
[05:38] <giriraj> hi
[05:40] <SilencedBV> Hi
[05:40] <SilencedBV> Lol
[05:40] <SilencedBV> !!!
[05:40] <Seven_Six_Two> Klevre: I think you might need the alternate installer. Do you see grub choices during boot?
[05:42] <Klevre> Seven_Six_Two, yes. Doesn't crash for me there, ever. I can see the boot options for Ubuntu
[05:45] <Seven_Six_Two> Klevre: edit your grub line, and add "nomodeset" without quotes.
[05:45] <LinStatSDR> Seven_Six_Two: I read that as "nomnom all set" isntead of nomodeset
[05:47] <LinStatSDR> Don't judge :D
[05:47] <Seven_Six_Two> never
[05:48] <subhojit777> I would like to use a Twitter client. My requirements: nice sleak and clean UI (customization would be a plus). Any suggestions based on this?
[05:49] <Seven_Six_Two> Klevre: if that works for you, you will also have to add that to the installed grub once install is done, but before rebooting.
[05:49] <subhojit777> And yes if I use the Twitter client how much it would be different from Twitter we access from browser
[05:50] <Klevre> Seven_Six_Two, ah thank you. Let me try
[05:50] <Niernj> Hello guys, I currently have Windows 7 installed on my system.
[05:51] <LinStatSDR> Well that's your first problem.
[05:51] <Niernj> I'm trying to dual boot Ubuntu with Windows 7. I downloaded the ISO and made a bootable disc and can now proceed to the installation on boot-up.
[05:51] <Seven_Six_Two> subhojit777: how different it is depends on the app that accesses their api. what is right for you also changes the answer. You should install a few and choose one. if you can't find a native client, you could try to install air and tweetdeck. maybe it still works.
[05:52] <Niernj> But during the partition, when I try to use the space I emptied (which is a local drive on Windows 7), I can't add new partitions.   I tried searching around and some articles say you can't have more than 4 primary partitions because the partition table size is 64.
[05:52] <Niernj> LinStatSDR: Yeah, right. Unallocated.
[05:53] <Seven_Six_Two> Niernj: is there free space on the harddrive? I don't mean windows saying you have free space, but a partition manager that says there is space without a partition (or an empty  one). You normally have to shrink windows partition before you can install
[05:53] <bubbasaures> Niernj, 4 primaries is a msdos partition rule.
[05:53] <Niernj> I need a swap partition and another partition ext4 in order to install Ubuntu right? But I can only make one of them.
[05:53] <Niernj> Seven_Six_Two: Yes, there is.
[05:54] <Niernj> bubbasaures: Okay, so how would I install it now?
[05:54] <Seven_Six_Two> Niernj: make an extended partition that takes up all of the space. then make partitions in that. if your pc is decent, you can do without swap.
[05:54] <LinStatSDR> imho, if you're unfamiliar with linux you're best bet is to use it as a VM
[05:54] <bubbasaures> Niernj, Is there 3 primaries there now and a unallocated?
[05:55] <Niernj> LinStatSDR: I'm familiar with Linux, but I haven't had to use more than 3 primary partitions before.
[05:55] <Niernj> bubbasaures: Yes.
[05:55] <LinStatSDR> Alrighty then
[05:55] <bubbasaures> Niernj, cool follow Seven_Six_Two's info with the extended than the logicals for ubuntu and swap inside.
[05:55] <Niernj> To rephrase: I have a 60 GB unallocated space.and I can only add a single primary partition, but if I understand it correctly, I need two primary partitions in order to install Ubuntu, and for swap.
[05:56] <Niernj> Seven_Six_Two: what do you mean by 'extended partition'? You mean 'Logical'?
[05:56] <bubbasaures> Niernj, You can put a extended there, this is a container for lots of logicals.
[05:56] <Seven_Six_Two> Niedar: yes. the "container" partition
[05:57] <Niernj> bubbasaures: I'm still not sure what is an extended partition. Could you explain?
[05:58] <bubbasaures> Niernj, I have to take off is all, you will get that squared away shortly. ;)
[05:59] <noobix> niernj, extemded partition is like primary, but can be subdivided furthrr into logical parts
[05:59] <drew_> hi
[05:59] <Niernj> bubbasaures: Alrighty, thanks for your help.
[05:59] <Niernj> noobix: Ah thanks, I'll try that!
[06:01] <noobix> niernj, no need, just obe primary for / , and one for swap is enough.. to have partiyions for /usr and /home is just pedantic
[06:01] <noobix> and only to honot trafition
[06:01] <noobix> tradition
[06:02] <Seven_Six_Two> noobix: It depends on the use
[06:02] <noobix> its a home desktop
[06:03] <Seven_Six_Two> I always do a separate home. That way my data can't cause the system to run out of space.
[06:03] <noobix> it is confusing neebies
[06:04] <Seven_Six_Two> it's not a tradition. Sure, it's not necessary. That doesn't make it pointless.
[06:05] <noobix> ok
[06:05] <Seven_Six_Two> I keep /var on its own partition on my servers for the same reason.
[06:05] <noobix> technique
[06:10] <slyrus> so I've got two machines with similar-ish configurations, both on the same local network. One gets ~45 MB/s talking to my NFS server, the other ~1 MB/s. Any ideas where to look for what might be causing the difference?
[06:11] <Seven_Six_Two> are they both gigabit cables?
[06:12] <Seven_Six_Two> and nics?
[06:14] <slyrus> yes, he says cautiously
[06:14] <Seven_Six_Two> slyrus: swap cables and retest. swap ports and retest.
[06:14] <Seven_Six_Two> *ports on router
[06:15] <slyrus> interesting idea. that means swapping rooms, but, yes, if it magically works when I move it over to the other router, that narrows things down a lot!
[06:16] <slyrus> i'll be back after i confirm that it's not router/cabling :)
[06:17] <slyrus> ethtool tells me that I'm at 1000Mb/s on the slow box, FWTW.
[06:20] <Seven_Six_Two> how long are the cables? are they kink free, and away from rf-generating devices?
[06:21] <Seven_Six_Two> or em fields?
[06:33] <ceibal> hola
[06:41] <Nierj> Hey guys. I'm trying to install Ubuntu along side Windows 7 (dual boot), and have 60 GB free space. I'm at the partitioning stage.
[06:41] <Nierj> It was suggested earlier in this channel that I should create an Extended/Logical partition and then create new partitions for swap and the installation (/). But I can't seem to do that.
[06:44] <noobix> nierj, you dont need swap, just use that 60 gb as /
[06:45] <Nierj> noobix: You sure? I'm on a PC with 2 gigs of RAM and a dual core processor.
[06:45] <noobix> yes it will do
[06:45] <EriC^^> Nierj: make a swap
[06:45] <EriC^^> Nierj: also, without a swap you can't hibernate
[06:46] <Nierj> noobix: But I think the last time I tried to install without swap, it showed some errors during the installation
[06:46] <EriC^^> Nierj: did you press on Something else in the installation?
[06:46] <Nierj> EriC^^: Okay, that's not a problem - I don't use hibernation feature at all.
[06:46] <Nierj> EriC^^: Yes
[06:46] <Nierj> How else would one proceed to the partitioning stage? o.O
[06:46] <EriC^^> Nierj: still 2GB is kind of low, if you have a vm running too then you won't have any left
[06:47] <Nierj> EriC^^: i don't have any.
[06:47] <Nierj> Say I want swap. How would I make one? As I said above, I can only make one more primary partition from this unallocated/free space.
[06:47] <EriC^^> Nierj: just asking what you pressed and where you are at
[06:48] <Nierj> EriC^^: okay, cool!
[06:49] <EriC^^> Nierj: make an extended partition
[06:49] <sacarlson1> Nierj: I think with the last partition you have you can make that the extended partition and from that can add a few more partitions that are inside that
[06:49] <EriC^^> hold on
[06:50] <Nierj> EriC^^: I tried to do that by clicking on 'Add' after selecting the free space, and then I added it. Now there's a new partition, but I can't seem to add any new ones.
[06:50] <Nierj> Maybe I'm doing it incorrectly.
[06:50] <Nierj> EriC^^: okay, I'll wait.
[06:51] <Nierj> (Just FYI: this is the page I'm at: http://i.stack.imgur.com/fHPI8.png - not the actual image, just taken from a blog)
[06:52] <EriC^^> Nierj: press on the free space, press "+" press change primary to logical, then select use as swap area, and press ok
[06:52] <Nierj> EriC^^: Okay, then?
[06:52] <EriC^^> use about 2-3GB for swap
[06:53] <Nierj> sure, I'm using 3
[06:53] <EriC^^> then make press on the remaining free space do the same but select ext4 and the mountpoint at "/"
[06:53] <Nierj> Oh. So it doesn't matter if I use a logical partition for swap?
[06:53] <EriC^^> yeah
[06:53] <Nierj> Ah cool
[06:54] <Nierj> Does Linux/Ubuntu care about what type the partition is, at all?
[06:54] <EriC^^> what do you mean?
[06:54] <EriC^^> in what context
[06:54] <Nierj> Like for /, does it matter if I use logical instead of primary?
[06:55] <Nierj> Or does it need to be primary itself?
[06:55] <vegombrei> hey guys so i made a bootable cd with lubuntu the computer i wanna install it on doesnt read the disk it reads everything but this disk it shows as blank, that old comp is running windows xp how do i install lubuntu? also i tried usb, there is no option regarding usb in bios or external drive, also i tried the new ubuntu on a bootable dvd that it read but only lubuntu it cant read why is that?
[06:55] <EriC^^> no, logical is fine
[06:55] <Nierj> What exactly is the difference? Maybe a link I can read more about it?
[06:55] <EriC^^> logical is like a primary partition i guess, its just cheating
[06:55] <Nierj> EriC^^: okay, I see.
[06:58] <KatherineA> hey is anyone doing the reddit secret santa?
[06:58] <KatherineA> :3
[06:59] <sacarlson1> vegombrei: I'm guessing it's an old computer the the cd/dvd drive won't always read disk perfect anymore.  other posibility is the cd/dvd is corrupted maybe you can verify it integrity on the system that wrote it
[07:01] <sacarlson1> vegombrei: with your bios it sounds like your running slim on other options if usb won't work and the cd continues to fail.  maybe plop boot manager or hook an ide disk directly to it or??
[07:01] <KatherineA> good night everyone
[07:02] <sacarlson1> vegombrei: oh and maybe you can update the bios with a flash?
[07:02] <vegombrei> its a sony vaio tx27gp with a centrino 1.2ghz and 1 gb ram dvd burner reads everything it works fine
[07:02] <EriC^^> good night KatherineA
[07:03] <vegombrei> sacarlson1: hmm didnt think of that .. you think sony gives out bios updatesA?
[07:03] <sacarlson1> vegombrei: then must just be a corrupt dvd then
[07:03] <sacarlson1> vegombrei: maybe they do
[07:03] <vegombrei> sacarlson1: it reads in other computers
[07:04] <sacarlson1> vegombrei: well you could try at least one more burn and make sure you burn it as slow as posible
[07:04] <vegombrei> sacarlson1: nowdays dude its hard to get a good copy of ubuntu most of them have the md5 issue even the ones you get thru torrent are sometimes faulty
[07:04] <EriC^^> vegombrei: not really
[07:05] <sacarlson1> vegombrei: oh then maybe you have bad iso copy?  it should match the md5sum
[07:05] <EriC^^> vegombrei: you can use rsync to patch up an iso btw
[07:06] <vegombrei> sacarlson1: yeah i got two one from the lubuntu site and the other from torrent both sizes dont match and the one from torrent site worked could burn iso on dvd but the other kept failing the dvd burn process
[07:07] <vegombrei> EriC^^: please teach me rsync oh master jedi i think it might be the key
[07:07] <sacarlson1> vegombrei: they are big files so maybe you lost conection with standard download and it wasn't complete.  check the md5sum before you burn it
[07:08] <EriC^^> vegombrei: rsync -avP rsync://mirror.to.iso /path/to/iso
[07:09] <sacarlson1> EriC^^:  vegombrei also I think wget has options to continue to download if first attempt fails
[07:10] <EriC^^> rsync will patch it up better i guess, it uses a differencing algorithm
[07:10] <sacarlson1> EriC^^: I've never tried that rsync thing, I should try that some time
[07:10] <EriC^^> sacarlson1: it's very nice
[07:11] <sacarlson1> EriC^^: and that works over http?
[07:11] <EriC^^> from the ubuntu website yeah
[07:13] <EriC^^> i guess you can't use it for http though
[07:14] <sacarlson1> EriC^^: ya my guess is it uses maybe port 22 or something but that's ok if the mirror site suports it.  but wget just uses http
[07:14] <EriC^^> it's a life saver if you have completed the download of an iso and then the md5 doesn't match, happened to me once and rsync saved my butt
[07:15] <sacarlson1> EriC^^: ya and these files are getting so big, you really don't want to start completely over if you don't have to
[07:17] <wafflej0ck_> sacarlson1: EriC^^yeah pretty big fan of rsync too but have found on low end hardware like a home NAS it tends to eat up a fair amount of CPU compared to scp or the like, but restarting transfers is definitely nice along with a lot of the other features of rsync
[07:17] <EriC^^> yeah especially with the some connection speeds, i had like 60-70kb/sec and it was at night unlimited, so it took like a week to download, it was like xmas night and then no santa when the md5 failed
[07:17] <chenx97> OMG i haven't ever thought about using rsync to repair the image :)
[07:21] <Guest87382> hellw
[07:24] <tek__> hi guys. i have run into a little problem with linuxlite (i am a new user) and i require an issue.
[07:24] <tek__> require assistance *
[07:25] <hateball> !flavors
[07:25] <hateball> hmm, wrong.
[07:29] <tek__> oops. im back. tethering via droid.
[07:30] <tek__> so. i deleted the password off my account and now anything that requires pass authetication bounces
[07:30] <tek__> ie, trying to mount w7 volume doesnt work. all password entries bounce back as failed.
[07:32] <alfatihmh> hi guys
[07:32] <alfatihmh> need help
[07:32] <tek__> hi alt
[07:32] <tek__> me too :(
[07:32] <RedPenguin> YaY I fixed it, GOogle is awesome sauce :)
[07:33] <EriC^^> tek__: can you get a grub menu
[07:33] <DigitalDevil> heck yeah google is the best
[07:33] <tek__> eric, is that the bootloader?
[07:34] <EriC^^> tek__: yeah
[07:34] <EriC^^> tek__: do you have physical access to the machine
[07:34] <alfatihmh> i have done somthing bad with synaptic and need to recover my system ?????
[07:34] <tek__> sorry, i am VERY new. i am transitioning from w7. loved the install process.
[07:34] <tek__> yes i can.
[07:34] <tek__> yes. im on it now.
[07:34] <EriC^^> alfatihmh: something bad?
[07:34] <EriC^^> tek__: ok, hold shift while it boots to get grub
[07:35] <alfatihmh> yep
[07:35] <EriC^^> can you talk here while you do that?
[07:35] <EriC^^> alfatihmh: like how bad are we talking?
[07:35] <tek__> i can download an IRC client to my phone.
[07:35] <EriC^^> tek__: ok, if that's easy do that
[07:36] <Ryvius> Help, I can't get the Fn keys to control backlight working on my Toshiba laptop
[07:36] <tek__> sure. thanks eric. wait out.
[07:38] <alfatihmh> eit
[07:38] <alfatihmh> sorry
[07:39] <tek__> connecting now eric. i will reboot into grub.
[07:40] <tek_droid> Hi Eric
[07:42] <tek_droid> I am at bootloader. I have advanced options for Linux lite or 'c' for cmd line
[07:45] <brent> wb sacarlson
[07:52] <tek__> hi eric. passwd in konsole workd.
[07:52] <tek__> however, i would either like to remove or change default keyring password.
[07:53] <EriC^^> tek__: sorry, i way away
[07:53] <EriC^^> *was
[07:53] <tek__> very strange. ive also lost my native resolution and cannot change it.
[07:53] <tek__> thats fine :)
[07:53] <tek__> were you going to suggest passwd?
[07:55] <tek__> it feels as though a 'registry' issue. xchat is also not using supplied nickname, its using my pc username
[07:55] <tek__> and my background has changed back to default
[07:56] <Ryvius> ubuntu pls
[07:56] <tek__> hmm. i might have to try lubunto.
[07:56] <tek__> lubuntu.
[07:57] <tek__> linuxlite seems great and i love how easy it was to install and drivers worked flawlessly, just a few bugs here and there.
[07:59] <EriC^^> tekk: i gtg sorry
[07:59] <EriC^^> tekk: ill brb in 10mins maybe
[08:04] <DiFianz> any ita?
[08:05] <Ryvius> Where is my kernel configuration file located?
[08:08] <JBudzNix> strange. booted into recovery and rebuilt packages and it seemed to fix some things.
[08:08] <JBudzNix> even though there was a lot of errors due to no network connections
[08:18] <dhaval2712> o maintainers simply get the source packages and then they have to build the various binaries for it and then allow it into the repos, and the changes are tracked .orig.debian.tar.gz and so forth right?
[08:39] <EriC^^> tekk: hey
[08:45] <hj2007> I see that a process named "kidle_inject" is eating up a lot of CPU. Anyone facing a similar issue?
[08:48] <wafflej0ck_> hj2007: post about it hear explains it has to do with "power clamp" for intel processors to reduce the heat/power consumption and is slightly deceptive http://askubuntu.com/questions/482307/kidle-inject-uses-cpu-power-without-apparent-reason
[08:48] <wafflej0ck_> hj2007: apparently that "CPU Usage" is actually idle time
[08:49] <wafflej0ck_> here*
[08:49] <wafflej0ck_> too late
[08:50] <hj2007> thanks wafflej0ck_, I already saw those posts but nothing seems too assuring. Let me see if the suggestion by Elder Geek is of any help.
[08:52] <wafflej0ck_> hj2007: yeah I mean really it seems like something you could just kill to see if it has any ill effect and decide if you think it's worth it for the power savings or heat reduction to leave it running or if you'd rather have it off, I use Ubuntu Gnome and tbh something like this would be nice as my i7 tends to get pretty hot and can tear through a battery faster than I'd like
[08:54] <wafflej0ck_> hj2007: ooo this might help me at least https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/PowerManagement/ThermalIssues
[08:54] <hj2007> wafflej0ck_, I've installed Xubuntu desktop environment on Ubuntu install. But I was facing same issues with Unity. Don't think that matters. yes, let me try killing the process and see the consequences.
[09:03] <hj2007> wafflej0ck_, I uninstalled thermald and everything is back to normal now. Those processes are started by thermald it seems. Until properly configured thermald is a disaster it seems ;)
[09:03] <lkthomas> is there have a dig command to list all A record for a domain ?
[09:04] <wafflej0ck_> hj2007: ah well good to know TIL
[09:06] <sacarlson> lkthomas: ya and that's it dig
[09:10] <detly> I got a crash with gnome-terminal on 14.04, and the usual "problem detected" dialog came up - but now that I can actually reproduce it reliably, the dialog no longer comes up
[09:10] <detly> does anyone know how to get it to reappear
[09:10] <sacarlson> lkthomas: or maybe it's dig -4 yahoo.com  ;  -4 privides only ipv4  -6 privides only ipv6 or AAAA
[09:10] <lkthomas> sacarlson, doesn't work for our internal server
[09:11] <sacarlson> lkthomas: it should  point it to the server with dig @yourserverip  website.com
[09:11] <Skipper16> hi
[09:12] <lkthomas> sacarlson, same result
[09:12] <Skipper16> i could use some help with an ubuntu installation
[09:12] <Skipper16> i'm stuck
[09:12] <mjayk> whats your problem Skipper16
[09:12] <EriC^^> Skipper16: where are you stuck?
[09:12] <sacarlson> lkthomas: then I assume your server is not running bind9 or other dns server or ??
[09:12] <Skipper16> i only have one flash drive to begin with
[09:13] <EriC^^> Skipper16: no dvd's or cd?
[09:13] <lkthomas> sacarlson, this part I have to check
[09:13] <Skipper16> so, i was told i could use the flash drive as an installation medium and also as the destination installation drive
[09:13] <EriC^^> Skipper16: wait, that's not a problem.
[09:14] <EriC^^> Skipper16: ah, you want to install it to the flash drive?
[09:14] <OerHeks> as install and destination? no
[09:14] <sacarlson> lkthomas: on the server see that bind9 is running and listening on the nic you have pointed to your internal network with sudo netstat -pant
[09:14] <mjayk> Skipper16: I think you mean a live install with persistance
[09:14] <Skipper16> EriC^^ it is not a problem, but i don't have a dvd drive either
[09:14] <Skipper16> no, i mean permanent install on flash drive
[09:15] <mjayk> yes that would be a live install with persistance Skipper16
[09:15] <EriC^^> Skipper16: which OS are you using right now?
[09:15] <Skipper16> win 8
[09:15] <Skipper16> ;)
[09:15] <EriC^^> Skipper16: well is there virtualbox for win8?
[09:16] <EriC^^> Skipper16: with virtualbox you could load the iso and make a raw disk image and install it to the usb
[09:16] <Skipper16> here's what i did: i formatted the flash drive with only a small partition on which i put the ubuntu image and made it bootable ti lili usb creator
[09:17] <EriC^^> Skipper16: ok, so maybe if you do 2 partitions it might work?
[09:17] <Skipper16> i booted that and i had most of the flash drive unformatted
[09:17] <EriC^^> Skipper16: make 1 fat32 one, and use the rest for an ext4 one if you dont want swap
[09:17] <EriC^^> who knows
[09:18] <OerHeks> that could only work if you load all into ram
[09:18] <Skipper16> i chose 'install ubuntu', used the free space on the flash drive and created and ext4 as / and installed ubuntu there
[09:19] <EriC^^> Skipper16: ok, did you choose the bootloader's location?
[09:19] <Skipper16> the installation worked but after reboot i find myself in the "live cd" grub menu again
[09:19] <EriC^^> Skipper16: did you choose to install the bootloader on the usb's disk?
[09:19] <Skipper16> it is giving me the "try w/o installing" or "install ubuntu" etc
[09:20] <Skipper16> EriC^^ i installed the bootloader on /dev/sda
[09:20] <Skipper16> which was the only drive (the flash drive)
[09:20] <EriC^^> Skipper16: there's no hdd in your pc?
[09:20] <Skipper16> no
[09:20] <EriC^^> dev/sda would be whatever has win8 i guess
[09:21] <EriC^^> ok
[09:21] <Skipper16> i am on a different computer
[09:21] <EriC^^> Skipper16: ok, try to delete the partition that has the live system
[09:21] <Skipper16> the ubuntu computer has no hdd for now
[09:21] <EriC^^> the fat32 partition
[09:22] <Skipper16> Eric^^ okay
[09:22] <mjayk> no need to delete it just move the boot partition to the start of the drive, although installing like this is a generally bad idea
[09:22] <Skipper16> ??
[09:25] <Skipper16> here is the layout of the drive
[09:25] <Skipper16> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9211442/
[09:27] <EriC^^> Skipper16: nice, it's efi :)
[09:27] <Skipper16> i delete the 1500 mb fat32 that i used as install source?
[09:27] <EriC^^> Skipper16: i guess you could if you dont want it anymore
[09:27] <Skipper16> yes, i found it in the ubuntu help pages, created it during installation
[09:27] <EriC^^> Skipper16: ok, the bios is set to efi too right
[09:27] <Skipper16> it is not that i don't want it, i just need to not boot into it anymore
[09:28] <Skipper16> yes, uefi boot
[09:28] <EriC^^> Skipper16: well can you press the boot options on your pc
[09:28] <EriC^^> Skipper16: you should be able to select whatever is in the efi boot manager
[09:29] <Skipper16> Eric^^ the bios only gives me 1 option, "usb hdd ..." which is the flash drive
[09:29] <m1dnight_> guys, I'm trying to follow this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[09:30] <Skipper16> it is a sh*** laptop bios with not many options
[09:30] <m1dnight_> but when I try do mount --bind /home/users /export/users it says "special device /home/users does not exist"
[09:30] <EriC^^> Skipper16: is the partition marked as bootable?
[09:30] <EriC^^> Skipper16: try list volumes
[09:30] <EriC^^> in diskpart
[09:30] <EriC^^> *list volume
[09:31] <AntiSol> hi
[09:31] <AntiSol> I'm having permissions problems mounting external disks on xubuntu 14.04. I'm being prompted for a password to mount my usb disk
[09:32] <EriC^^> AntiSol: how are you mounting it?
[09:32] <AntiSol> i plug it in
[09:32] <AntiSol> or i click on the icon for it in thunar
[09:32] <EriC^^> AntiSol: ok
[09:33] <AntiSol> I get a dialog that says 'authentication required to mount <disk>'
[09:33] <AntiSol> and when I click details it gives me 2 links: org.freedesktop.udisks2.filesystem-mount and http://udisks.freedesktop.org/
[09:33] <EriC^^> AntiSol: ok, go to disks
[09:34] <AntiSol> what do you mean 'go to disks'? do you mean in settings or in thunar or what?
[09:34] <EriC^^> click on edit mount options
[09:34] <EriC^^> AntiSol: it's a program
[09:34] <Skipper16> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9211555/ Eric^^ no indication as to what is bootable imo (all but volume 4 are fixed disk on the win 8 computer)
[09:35] <SASDOE> Hey all, how can I update from 10.04 to 14.04 in one go, without questions?
[09:35] <SASDOE> ie, without having to attend to the upgrade every few seconds
[09:35] <cfhowlett> SASDOE, update?  no.  clean install?  yes.
[09:35] <cfhowlett> 10.04 > 12.04 > 14.04
[09:35] <SASDOE> do-release-upgrade ?
[09:35] <AntiSol> eric: package name? executable name? I don't see any 'disks' icon in my menu
[09:37] <AntiSol> EriC^^: ??
[09:41] <AntiSol> SASDOE: if you don't want to do all the intermediate upgrades between 10.04 and 14.04, one option might be to save your home partition. You can usually do a clean install but keep your home partition and it works pretty well. I've done it once or twice, once from 32 -> 64 bit.
[09:42] <AntiSol> if you're not using a separate partition for /home, you could create a tarball backup and decompress it over the top of a clean install, or you could repartition.
[09:43] <AntiSol> So, EriC^^: does your silence mean that you're stumped because I don't have 'disks'?!?
[09:45] <SASDOE> AntiSol: Cheers I'll do that.
[09:45] <AntiSol> you will need to reinstall all your apps, i.e it won't keep track of what packages you have installed very well, but all your settings will be there
[09:45] <Skipper17> could someone talk me to grub command line? that's what it comes down to i think, to make grub boot the proper partition
[09:46] <Skipper17> through grub cmd line
[09:46] <AntiSol> Skipper: IIRC grub has tab-completion these days, it's handy ;)
[09:47] <AntiSol> I don't remember the grub syntax, but last time I had trouble I figured it out with some educated guessing and lots of tab-presses
[09:47] <Skipper17> gosh
[09:47] <Skipper17> ls gives me > secure boot forbids ....
[09:48] <AntiSol> I think you want something like boot (device,partition), where device and partition are numbers starting at 0
[09:48] <AntiSol> try typing 'boot' and hitting tab
[09:48] <AntiSol> (a couple of times)
[09:49] <AntiSol> EriC^^: ?????
[09:50] <Skipper17> Antisol trying ls now is > (memdisk) (hd0) (hd0, msdos4) to  (hd0, msdos1)
[09:51] <touki> Hi does an apt-get upgrade update the distrib or no? [I don't want to]
[09:51] <AntiSol> touki: no only software not the distro
[09:51] <touki> thanks
[09:51] <AntiSol> distro is do-release-upgrade
[09:52] <AntiSol> Skipper17: ok so hd0 is the disk, try boot(hd0)
[09:52] <AntiSol> then boot(hd0,4)
[09:52] <Skipper17> boot tab is nothing, boot alone says 'you need to load the kernel first'
[09:52] <AntiSol> then boot(hd0,msdos4)
[09:53] <AntiSol> ah, you might be at the other prompt
[09:54] <Skipper17> the other prompt?
[09:54] <sacarlson> Skipper17: I found this that might help http://forums.justlinux.com/showthread.php?152790-How-to-use-Grub2-to-boot-Linux-manually
[09:55] <sacarlson> Skipper17: I assume you have grub2?
[09:55] <AntiSol> skipper17: ok
[09:55] <AntiSol> try:
[09:55] <AntiSol> root (hd0,1)
[09:56] <AntiSol> kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1
[09:56] <AntiSol> boot
[09:56] <AntiSol> (assuming that your disk is sda1 and you're booting off the first partition)
[09:57] <sacarlson> Skipper17: I don't recall ever booting manualy in some time so I.   might also need something for initrd  initrd   /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-6-686  or whatever your kernel ##
[09:58]  * AntiSol thanks EriC^^ for the amazing help. </sarcasm>
[09:59] <Skipper17> okay > set root (hd0,1) OK, but chainloader +1 > invalid efi file path
[10:01] <Skipper17> i quit
[10:01] <AntiSol> Skipper17: you don't just have a live CD lying around somewhere? it'll show you a nice menu.  Modern hardware is annoying. You could make a bootable USB stick.
[10:03] <sacarlson> Skipper17: do you have any idea as to how this system is partitioned?   where is root partition ,  where is boot ?
[10:03] <Skipper17> i am going to the store and get a second thumb drive, then i will be able to use one as the install source and the other one as the target
[10:03] <Skipper17> sacarlson, yes i partitioned it
[10:04] <Skipper17> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9211442/
[10:04] <sacarlson> Skipper17: so do you want to provide.  ok let me take a look
[10:05] <Skipper17> please do
[10:05] <sacarlson> Skipper17: so how does that end up being maped?  I don't understand how you can have 3 partition 0
[10:05] <AntiSol> I'm going to leave sacarlson to it - sounds like you know grub better than I. Sorry I wasn't more helpful
[10:06] <sacarlson> AntiSol: no I basicly suck at it
[10:06] <Skipper17> that is windows not recognising any ext4 i guess
[10:07] <sacarlson> Skipper17: well I can't read that so can't be of any help
[10:07] <EriC^^> AntiSol: sorry, i had to leave
[10:08] <AntiSol> EriC^^ that's OK I just wasn't sure what had happened :)
[10:08] <EriC^^> AntiSol: no problem :)
[10:08] <AntiSol> I think I found a page with what you were talking about: http://askubuntu.com/questions/445224/stop-ubuntu-asking-for-password-to-mount-second-drive
[10:09] <AntiSol> but I don't have that 'disks' thing because I'm using xubuntu
[10:09] <AntiSol> my user is definitely in the disks group
[10:10] <EriC^^> AntiSol: yeah, i guess so, it's called gnome-disks here
[10:10] <EriC^^> i dont think xubuntu has that
[10:11] <EriC^^> you could do the workaround of adding it to the fstab with certain options
[10:11] <AntiSol> nope, the closest thing is in the settings manager under 'disks and removable media' but there are no mount options
[10:11] <AntiSol> what option were you going to tell me to put in?
[10:11] <EriC^^> that would allow anyone to mount it using mount as well, like mount /path/to/mountpoint
[10:11] <EriC^^> AntiSol: i was going to suggest to check if the option is set to require authentication when mounting
[10:12] <AntiSol> problem with that is that it applies to any usb disk, and I don't want to edit fstab for every new thumb drive
[10:12] <EriC^^> AntiSol: yeah that's true
[10:12] <Skipper17> kk, Antisol, sacarlson, EriC^^ thanks for your time i will do the easy thing now and get a 2nd flash drive, then use one as install source and one as destination, for the record using 1 usb drive as install and destination is not a good idea ;)
[10:13] <AntiSol> Skipper17: I looked at your paste and i think you might want partition 1 not 0
[10:13] <Skipper17> though it does work but grub 2 command line grrr
[10:13] <AntiSol> oh no that's the usb stick. I suck at grub
[10:13] <Skipper17> Antisol part 1 is the install image, the problem is it still boots into that after installation on the 5 gb partition
[10:14] <AntiSol> yeah i noticed ;)
[10:14] <EriC^^> Skipper17: what happened i didn't see what you did
[10:14] <EriC^^> Skipper17: did you try to remove the live session's partition?
[10:15] <AntiSol> EriC^^ can you find the name of the binary for the 'disks' tool? maybe i can install it without pulling the whole of gnome
[10:16] <EriC^^> AntiSol: it's called gnome-disks
[10:16] <AntiSol> thanks
[10:16] <EriC^^> !find gnome-disks
[10:16] <EriC^^> !info gnome-disk-utility
[10:17] <unlockus> hello
[10:17] <EriC^^> i think that's the package ^^
[10:17] <AntiSol> package gnome-disk-utility, only needed to download 300kb :)
[10:17] <john> hey guys, any solution for lock screen on ubuntu 14.04, gnome session flashback?
[10:17] <Skipper17> lol
[10:17] <AntiSol> ooh those !find and !info macros are handy!
[10:18] <Skipper17> EriC i just deleted the live partition not it doesn't boot at all , bios boot options are empty
[10:18] <AntiSol> john: yeah: remove that crap and install xscreensaver ;)
[10:19] <john> AntiSol: thx
[10:19] <john> and I prefer this to unity or gnome3... for now
[10:19] <Skipper17> okay gotta go
[10:19] <Skipper17> will try again later
[10:20] <AntiSol> it's not as pretty, but it works. Jamie zawinski (xscreensaver author) has a great rant about why gnome-screensaver is broken. It applies to most of those session-locking apps
[10:21] <AntiSol> here: http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/faq.html#gnome-screensaver
[10:21] <john> can you read french :)
[10:22] <EriC^^> AntiSol: this might help http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/37428/arch-linux-mount-disks-with-thunar-without-password
[10:22] <rved> hello
[10:23] <AntiSol> that does look promising, thanks!
[10:23] <EriC^^> no problem
[10:25] <rved> i have a htpassword on a production environment - set-up before it goes live.. now, i’ve also set-up a htpasswrd on the testing environment. They shared the same .htpasswd file. Now i’ve CP that file into .htpasswdLive and changed the password for the Live environment. I also changed the /etc/nginx/sites-available/SiteConfig file where the “auth_basic_user_file /etc/ngxinx/.htpasswdLive; .. saved and ext… but the Live environment is still us
[10:25] <rved> the old htpassword! any ideas?
[10:26] <AntiSol> oh not nginx
[10:26] <AntiSol> isn't it supposed to be easy to configure?
[10:28] <AntiSol> you used htpasswd to change the password, yes?
[10:29] <AntiSol> did you restart nginx?
[10:29] <AntiSol> (or reload)
[10:30] <isss> hello guys
[10:30] <AntiSol> hi
[10:33] <rved> AntiSol: no i did not restart
[10:33] <rved> dont know if this has consequences for anything that is running
[10:33] <rved> is there a save way?
[10:34] <AntiSol> yeah sudo service nginx reload
[10:34] <AntiSol> or sudo /etc/init.d/nginx reload
[10:34] <AntiSol> are testing and prod on the same machine?
[10:35] <AntiSol> that's a bad idea...
[10:36] <Linnak> Hi, I've turned off animations in compiz settings manager but every window and popup menu are still fading. What can I disable more
[10:37] <AntiSol> Linnak: I don't remember exactly but I think you want to look for a setting in one of the 'window manager' type places
[10:38] <AntiSol> either a tab called something like
[10:38] <AntiSol> 'animations' or a setting like 'animate on minimize/restore'
[10:42] <Linnak> I'm getting there. Now windows are good but popup animations are still on
[10:43] <AntiSol> do you mean tooltips?
[10:46] <Linnak> yes. When I hove for example an icon on unity bar
[10:46] <Linnak> *hove=hover the mouse
[10:47] <AntiSol> just keep looking for those options. It'll be something like 'animate tooltips' or 'animate popups'
[10:48] <AntiSol> sorry i cant be more specific but I don't use compiz anymore :)
[10:49] <Linnak> I just wanted to try Unity but I never could because it is so slowly
[10:49] <ayush> whenever i
[10:50] <Linnak> I don't have problem with the look but why don't the put a button in unity-tweak-tool which said "tunr off every animation"
[10:50] <AntiSol> i use xfce
[10:51] <ayush> whenever i delete a file in 14.10 the system freezes for few seconds
[10:51] <ayush> any idea why??
[10:53] <AntiSol> ayush: that's strange. Is it a USB disk?
[10:53] <Linnak> I tried delete animation and fade words in dconf editor but it wrote back after
[11:02] <suore> Hey I want to use Ubuntu Server, it's have a pay support of company like SuSe or Red Hat?
[11:02] <RaviTezu> Hi, how can i add this url http://dl.bintray.com/gocd/gocd-deb/ apt source list.
[11:02] <RaviTezu> I have tried using apt-add-repository.. But it didn't help
[11:02] <RaviTezu> Thanks in advance!
[11:06] <Nahita> Hi guys, Im having some touble running a command.  Maybe there's a problem with the fileglob (*)...
[11:15] <Nahita> yeats: -rw------- 1 root root 207 nov 19 12:10 /etc/sysconfig/myiptables-filter
[11:16] <Nahita> I dont think thats it, but thnx
[11:17] <yeats> Nahita: I'm not all that familiar with the ins and outs of selinux, sorry
[11:18] <Nahita> yeats: np, same here :D
[11:19] <yeats> Nahita: you may have seen this, but: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/chcon-can%27t-apply-partial-context-to-unlabeled-file-371977/
[11:19] <jeany> Hi, i freshly installed ubuntu but my fn keys for brightness change the brightness value in the wrong folder (changes it in acpi_video/brightness but it should - to work - change in intel_video/brightness). How may I change that?
[11:19] <Nahita> yeats: I will take a look, thnx
[11:19] <DanMAbraham> I wrote a new song - https://soundcloud.com/mystery-dma/evening - not sure if anyone can listen? I would love to know if it works on ubuntu as I have only tested it on Windows and Mac
[11:20] <yeats> DanMAbraham: then boot up a live CD/USB and test it, then
[11:21] <Wulf> hi
[11:21] <DeiMum> :-*O:-)
[11:21] <Wulf> the trusty images on http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/ are a bit outdated. How would I get an EC2 image with updated packages?
[11:23] <yeats> Wulf: I haven't done anything with cloud images, but can't you just install one of those and update them with apt-get?
[11:23] <Wulf> yeats: doing that, but it takes time
[11:23] <yeats> Wulf: well, yeah ;-)
[11:24] <OerHeks> jeany, maybe this solution works for you too http://askubuntu.com/a/450594
[11:24] <ZeroC00l> hi there
[11:25] <ZeroC00l> need a free ssh account to bypass filtering in my country
[11:25] <ZeroC00l> any help ?
[11:25] <yeats> ZeroC00l: not the right channel
[11:25] <jeany> Ensure following file exists.
[11:25] <jeany> /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf <- it does not exists OerHeks
[11:25] <OerHeks> ZeroC00l, that is beyond the scope of this channel
[11:25] <jeany> but i am trying to create it and will see, thanks
[11:26] <Wulf> ZeroC00l: why do you need it to be free?
[11:26] <OerHeks> jeany, make one if it does not exist.
[11:26] <ZeroC00l> i know but i just asking for help any where
[11:26] <jeany> yep, relogging
[11:26] <ZeroC00l> thanks jeany
[11:26] <mnms_> I want to send an email from my shell account with mail command
[11:27] <mnms_> Can I setup mail to connect with external mail server
[11:27] <mnms_> ?
[11:28] <mnms_> because un logs I see relay is <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:28] <yeats> !mailserver | mnms_
[11:28] <jeany> works, thanks a lot OerHeks
[11:28] <OerHeks> jeany, have fun :-)
[11:28] <jeany> :) cya
[11:29] <OerHeks> mnms_, sure, like this http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/37061
[11:30] <mnms_> OerHeks: Thanks !
[11:34] <ZeroC00l> hi again
[11:35] <fatvlad> Hi there, do u know how to remove fl.txt~ from dir?
[11:36] <EriC^^> fatvlad: open the file manager and select it and delete
[11:36] <ZeroC00l> any free ssh account ?
[11:37] <Wulf> fatvlad: rm dir/fl.txt~
[11:37] <Ben64> ZeroC00l: not on topic here
[11:37] <EriC^^> fatvlad: you have to press ctrl + h to show it in the file manager
[11:37] <ZeroC00l> i know i just asking ?
[11:37] <Wulf> ZeroC00l: no.
[11:37] <EriC^^> ZeroC00l: head over to #xshellz
[11:37] <BadApe> should /sbin/init be running at 3.9% all the time?
[11:37] <Ben64> ZeroC00l: not on topic = don't ask here
[11:37] <Ben64> BadApe: 3.9% what
[11:37] <ZeroC00l> thanks Eric
[11:38] <BadApe> Ben64: sorry cpu usage
[11:38] <Ben64> BadApe: mine is taking 0.0% so... probably not?
[11:38] <BadApe> i am looking at an idle vm with high cpu usage
[11:38] <fatvlad> ty, rm remove it
[11:39] <vroomfondel> is /media a "true" directory or does it reside in RAM? if I do a "mkdir" there, will it remain after shutdown?
[11:40] <OerHeks> vroomfondel, yes, it will be there after reboot.
[11:41] <fatvlad> i have fl.txt, I delete it, and now I have fl.txt~, cant see it with nautilus. What is it?
[11:42] <fatvlad> I just donno how to google it :D
[11:43] <vroomfondel> I just umounted an SDcard and its directory vanished. Is there a convention when to remove directories there? And whats the point in conserving /media/username/whatever
[11:45] <shimbi> hi
[11:46] <fatvlad> hello
[11:46] <Ben64> vroomfondel: well it got created and mounted automatically, so when you unmount it, it goes away
[11:46] <Nahita> BadApe: Mine is also at 0 0
[11:48] <vroomfondel> Ben64: but not if I created the directory by hand?
[11:49] <Ben64> vroomfondel: yeah it should stay
[11:53] <vroomfondel> Ben64: when I umount the SDcard, /dev/sdcX as well as the /media/username/XXXXX go away. If I want to remount it by hand, how to do it?
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> !mount | vroomfondel
[11:54] <snuskgubben> this is what i love about linux, i booted up and everything worked just fine and i rebooted.. and it did not boot up
[11:54] <Ben64> vroomfondel: how do you unmount it? /dev/sdx shouldn't go away...
[11:55] <vroomfondel> Ben64: it does... I also wondered
[11:55] <lotuspsychje> !details | snuskgubben
[11:55] <Ben64> vroomfondel: you didn't answer the question...
[11:55] <snuskgubben> Unity does not start, and if i use the guest account it does.
[11:56] <vroomfondel> Ben64: umount /dev/sdc5
[11:56] <Ben64> snuskgubben: what did you do in between booting fine and rebooting
[11:56] <Ben64> vroomfondel: well that wouldn't make the device disappear
[11:57] <snuskgubben> Ben64, nothing. I just booted up ubuntu restarted to boot up win 8 and then i booted back to ubuntu and then it did not start up.
[11:57] <vroomfondel> Ben64: it is, I think, a secondary partition on the SDcard. There is still /dev/sdc1on the same card
[11:58] <Ben64> vroomfondel: where do you see it disappear
[11:58] <vroomfondel> Ben64: when I do mount or df
[11:58] <Ben64> vroomfondel: well yeah, because that shows only things that are mounted
[11:59] <snuskgubben> Ben64, i used chrome for a bit.. i did not update any programs or edit any files, my guess is that the config for unity is broken
[11:59] <vroomfondel> Ben64: my bad... mount refused to remount sdc5, so I thought it wasn't there
[12:04] <snuskgubben> How do i reset unity?
[12:05] <snuskgubben> !unity | snuskgubben
[12:05] <snuskgubben> !notunity | snuskgubben
[12:06] <k1l_> snuskgubben: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[12:16] <snuskgubben> this just suck, i can not run the unity-reset outside my x session and i can not get a terminal in x when im logged in to my non guest account
[12:21] <daftykins> snuskgubben: tried just bypassing your /home config by temporarily moving .config to .configold?
[12:21] <snuskgubben> i will try that
[12:21] <snuskgubben> where is this file located?
[12:21] <EriC^^> dont mean to step on any toes, but what's up daftykins snuskgubben ?
[12:21] <daftykins> i don't know off hand if that's where the session config is btw, so you might want to confirm that
[12:22] <daftykins> EriC^^: i haven't been following but it looked like a wonky session config is preventing unity from starting in snuskgubben's account, works fine in a guest session
[12:23] <EriC^^> daftykins: oh ok i see
[12:24] <eljoniamo> helow teteeees
[12:24] <BluesKaj_> Howdy folks
[12:24] <eljoniamo> someone saw yesterday the big brother?
[12:24] <k1l_> !ot | eljoniamo
[12:25] <eljoniamo> okaymy computer turns off every time
[12:25] <snuskgubben> why do i have a file called Trolltech.conf? xD
[12:25] <snuskgubben> in my .config dir
[12:25] <ikonia> snuskgubben: for QT
[12:25] <eljoniamo> now my screen is turn off but i can write
[12:25] <snuskgubben> i see
[12:25] <ikonia> eljoniamo: that seems unlikley
[12:26] <eljoniamo> this page its is a troll page?
[12:26] <ikonia> eljoniamo: no
[12:27] <eljoniamo> ikonia : why not you are so bored . Are you gay?
[12:32] <snuskgubben> oO
[12:32] <prahs> hi
[12:32] <daftykins> greetings
[12:33] <snuskgubben> i rememberd, i did use apt-get autoremove before i rebooted and it deleted some linux-headers package.. but it was small and did not seam to be the main one so i removed it
[12:34] <daftykins> snuskgubben: how does that relate to your unity session not working?
[12:35] <snuskgubben> daftykins, i don't know
[12:35] <Aer93> hey, does anybody know how can I recover that I deleted with rm :S
[12:35] <k1l_> snuskgubben: what is the issue at all?
[12:35] <daftykins> snuskgubben: you know you just had to type "mv ~/.config ~/.configold" right?
[12:36] <Aer93> I really need the folder that I've just delete, but there is no trash
[12:36] <k1l_> Aer93: there is no trash on the cli
[12:36] <daftykins> Aer93: boot a live session right now and use data recovery software, don't do a single thing more on that disk until you do
[12:36] <snuskgubben> daftykins, yes, but then all the configs move.. and not only the one for unity but ill try
[12:36] <snuskgubben> brb
[12:36] <daftykins> snuskgubben: yes but the point is to test :P
[12:37] <k1l_> snuskgubben: make sure the video driver is setup right and works
[12:39] <snuskgubben> k1l_, it is
[12:39] <k1l_> what is your exact issue now?
[12:39] <daftykins> for the second time, snuskgubben's guest session works but user session doesn't bring up unity correctly
[12:39] <snuskgubben> now? x won't restart anymore.. and unity does not start on my -real- account, only on the guest acc
[12:40] <k1l_> does not start means?
[12:40] <snuskgubben> gets error messages
[12:40] <mnms_> One more thing guys, If I have a dns zone for domain which can have private address and public I should use a views then ?
[12:40] <snuskgubben> i think it will be faster if i reinstall ubuntu
[12:40] <k1l_> snuskgubben: the more details the better support.
[12:40] <snuskgubben> takes less time
[12:41] <daftykins> mnms_: that's beyond the scope of this channel really, try ##networking or #ubuntu-server
[12:41] <k1l_> snuskgubben: so is it just a black screen going back to login back again?
[12:41] <mnms_> daftykins: thx
[12:41] <snuskgubben> no, i just get some error messages
[12:41] <k1l_> snuskgubben: or is it just windowsborders and starters missing?
[12:41] <Aer93> I did run a software recovry software, but it has generated a LOT of folders with files
[12:41] <Aer93> I cannot find my files.... the names have changed
[12:42] <daftykins> Aer93: did you install it on the existing installation where you lost the data? you probably let it overwrite where that data was already and may've lost it forever.
[12:42] <eric___> Hello, im using ubuntu 14.04. I have numbers on my icon bar that won't go away. Does anyone know how to search for this problem? The numbers are shortcuts to the various applications on my icon bar.
[12:43] <daftykins> eric___: press the 'super' key (which is the windows logo one)
[12:43] <Aer93> fuck...
[12:43] <Aer93> I installed the program where in the installation where I lost the data
[12:43] <daftykins> Aer93: like i said, if you care about this data... you need to shutdown *now* and start a live session to work from.
[12:44] <Aer93> yeah, but I had already done that when I asked you...
[12:44] <daftykins> well you might be lucky so go and do it
[12:45] <snuskgubben> i removed some files in my .config dir related to gnome and session and rebooted and now it works fine
[12:45] <daftykins> Aer93: oh and if you don't have bootable media to hand... don't download ubuntu on that system :P
[12:45] <Aer93> I m telling you, I've already run a recovy software, and there a lot of old files indeed
[12:45] <daftykins> snuskgubben: huzzah!
[12:45] <Aer93> but I dont find mine... I trying to use grep "something that I remember that was in the file" folder.*
[12:45] <Aer93> but it finds nothing
[12:46] <Aer93> grep -r I mean
[12:46] <snuskgubben> daftykins, yes :)
[12:46] <OerHeks> Aer93, if you have used testdisk, thse filenames are gone, so you need to recover that by hand.
[12:46] <Aer93> I used testdisk
[12:46] <Aer93> recover by hand?
[12:46] <Aer93> what do you mean
[12:47] <OerHeks> Aer93, it would be easy if they were all *.jpg or *.mp3
[12:47] <Aer93> I know...
[12:47] <Aer93> they are .vim
[12:47] <Aer93> so....
[12:48] <OerHeks> Aer93, oke give all those filenumbers the .vim extention, and check them out?
[12:50] <Aer93> but the vim extesions seems to be also lost
[12:50] <Aer93> I dont find any .vim extension inside the recup_dir.#
[12:51] <OerHeks> i am not sure photorec would do better http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[12:52] <Aer93> thats what I used, thats what comes with testdisk
[12:53] <cfhowlett> ping
[12:54] <OerHeks> !info ping
[13:01] <Aer93> I see that I have a trash in .local/share/trash
[13:02] <Aer93> and it has some files, but not the ones I'm looking for
[13:02] <Aer93> which files goes to this trash and why?
[13:02] <daftykins> ones deleted via the GUI
[13:02] <daftykins> not ones deleted via 'rm'
[13:02] <cfhowlett> daftykins, CLI deletes are instantly gone, right?
[13:03] <daftykins> yep
[13:03] <daftykins> or, instantly marked as free space, rather
[13:03] <ikonia> thats the best description
[13:03] <ikonia> until they are overwritten
[13:03] <ikonia> there will still be inode references in backup inodes
[13:05] <frank_o> Hi! Does anybody use Tor and know how to make it create the `control_auth_cookie` file?
[13:05] <Aer93> OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH GOD THNX
[13:05] <Aer93> I FOUND THEM
[13:05] <Aer93> thnx guys
[13:05] <Aer93> CHIUFFFFF that was so close
[13:06] <cfhowlett> daftykins, so they are recoverable with ... what? photorec?
[13:06] <Aer93> I was skpying class today until I found those things, thnx I found them
[13:06] <Aer93> not really, those things failed
[13:06] <ikonia> cfhowlett: anything that can interact with the file system's inode index's
[13:06] <daftykins> cfhowlett: have you not seen the entire conversation so far?
[13:06] <Aer93> I just had luck and found there was a backup somewhere
[13:06] <Aer93> a vim backup
[13:06] <ikonia> Aer93: ok - we get it, you've got the files "well done"
[13:06] <vegombrei> hi i just newly installed lubuntu is there any repositories i need to update??
[13:06] <cfhowlett> daftykins, no, I was afk.  just dropped in about 3 minutes ago.  sorry.
[13:07] <ikonia> vegombrei: why would you need to change anything ?
[13:07] <daftykins> cfhowlett: don't you have scrollback?
[13:07] <Aer93> ikonia: ok
[13:07] <Icedream> hi
[13:08] <wgetME> !fan
[13:09] <OerHeks> !lmsensors
[13:09] <EriC^^> ^^^ the worst factoid by ubottu
[13:09] <vegombrei> ikonia: when i plug in external dives the folder opens and you may operate it but it doesnt show in the file managet i dunno how to eject it
[13:10] <EriC^^> the link is broken and the description seems lacking
[13:10] <ikonia> EriC^^: edit it
[13:10] <ikonia> EriC^^: updates always very welcome
[13:10] <ikonia> vegombrei: doesn't seem right
[13:10] <vegombrei> in the file manager the tree starts with /
[13:11] <ikonia> vegombrei: it should start with /
[13:11] <ikonia> vegombrei: can you take a screen shot of the file manager and share it
[13:11] <ikonia> maybe easier to explain that way/check it out
[13:12] <vegombrei> ikonia: ill try ... pastebin ?
[13:12] <k1l_> vegombrei: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[13:12] <ikonia> vegombrei: any image bin
[13:12] <k1l_> vegombrei: imgur.com
[13:12] <ikonia> thanks k1l_
[13:15] <Desgenstein> How can I access the AMD GUI settings tool? fglrx doesn't have a man page, although it seems to be installed. I'm trying to set up my dual graphics so that I can run a program on a specific GPU.
[13:16] <EriC^^> ikonia: ok, thanks
[13:17] <albert> 1
[13:18] <vegombrei> list
[13:19] <usr13> Desgenstein: taskset
[13:19] <daftykins> Desgenstein: click dash -> type "amd" and you should see the catalyst control center program
[13:22] <Desgenstein> daftykins: doesn't seem to locate any such thing.
[13:24] <daftykins> Desgenstein: how did you install fglrx?
[13:24] <daftykins> !info amdcccle
[13:25] <Desgenstein> I didn't, I tried sudo apt-get install fglrx and it says that it's already the newest version
[13:25] <EriC^^> !info fglrx-amdcccle
[13:26] <daftykins> EriC^^: :) that's the one!
[13:26] <EriC^^> daftykins: :)
[13:26] <Desgenstein> So should I install it?
[13:26] <daftykins> Desgenstein: can you answer my question first...
[13:26] <daftykins> Desgenstein: how did you install fglrx?
[13:26] <Desgenstein> I didn't, I tried sudo apt-get install fglrx and it says that it's already the newest version
[13:27] <daftykins> Desgenstein: so that's the only way you have attempted to install the AMD drivers? and you're sure they're in use?
[13:27] <Desgenstein> BinaryDriverHowTo on help.ubuntu.com however syas that it's not the default driver yet I don't recall making any changes
[13:28] <daftykins> Desgenstein: ok well install the above package for the control center then try running it, or reboot to use the new driver
[13:29] <daftykins> i don't even know if what you're trying to do counts as crossfire though, or whether it'll even work to use each card independantly
[13:31] <Desgenstein> Additional drivers in software & updates says that I'm using fglrx. Also, fglrx-amdcccle seems to be installed already as well, but there is no man page and trying to run it produces 'fglrx-amdcccle: command not found'
[13:31] <Nahita_> How do I solve chcon: can't apply partial context to unlabeled file?
[13:31] <usr13> Does Ubuntu 14.04 installer allow us to create user account with the name of "root"?
[13:32] <BluesKaj_> usr13, who would even try such a thing :)
[13:32] <bearface> there's a root account by default
[13:33] <daftykins> Desgenstein: yeah that's not its' name.
[13:33] <daftykins> Desgenstein: can you install "pastebinit" and run "fglrxinfo | pastebinit" ?
[13:34] <usr13> BluesKaj_: I do not know, but was confused yesterday by someone asking questions here who claimed to have created a user account with the name of root.
[13:34] <daftykins> usr13: heh i might have to test that in a VM
[13:34] <daftykins> i would think ubiquity would disallow it, for sanity's sake
[13:35] <bearface> usr13: there is an account named root by default, but it does not have a password set, thus does not allow logins.
[13:35] <usr13> Yea, I'm confused but I had him show me the output of who and also the output of cat /etc/issue, I still have it.
[13:35] <usr13> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9206720/ & http://paste.ubuntu.com/9206746/
[13:36] <Desgenstein> daftykins: result: 'fglrxinfo: command not found / You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.'
[13:36] <daftykins> Desgenstein: mmhmm, yeah your setup isn't ideal
[13:36] <usr13> It shows root logged into pts/4
[13:36] <Desgenstein> heh, figures
[13:37] <usr13> daftykins: BluesKaj_ root was logged into pseudoterminal slave #4
[13:38] <daftykins> *shrug* that could be down to several possibilities though right?
[13:38] <daftykins> like an amateur user setting a password for root and logging in with it
[13:38] <bearface> aye
[13:38] <usr13> daftykins: BluesKaj_ pts/4 is  pseudoterminal slave #4  Right?  Which would be a GUI terminal window.
[13:39] <fallkon_> 1
[13:39] <usr13> daftykins: BluesKaj_ So how do you do that unless you have a regular user named root?  (I did not know a Linux system would allow the creation of a user named root.)
[13:41] <usr13> daftykins: Even if you set a password for root, how do you log into it in a terminal window?
[13:41] <bearface> every linux system has a user named root (afaik) by default, ubuntu comes with no password set for root. 'passwd root' to set a password will enable it with the password you provide
[13:41] <usr13> daftykins: But I specifically asked if he had enabled the root account and he claimed that he didn't even know what that meant.
[13:42] <BluesKaj_> usr13, not entirely sure , I just know it's a rule never to use root as a username or pwd
[13:42] <usr13> daftykins: Unfortunately, I was out of time at that moment and was no longer able to pursue the conversation any further, so I'm confused.
[13:43] <Jim_> Could any one help me to run my skype autostart? Its Zorin Operating system.
[13:43] <bearface> "cat /etc/passwd" you'll see the root account
[13:43] <usr13> BluesKaj_: Yes. I was under the impression that the system would not allow you to do it.  And I just tested it.
[13:44] <usr13> BluesKaj_: "User 'root' already exists; please choose another Login name for new user []:"
[13:44] <k1l_> there is a root account on every ubuntu. its "just" not set up with a pw.
[13:44] <Jim_> Could any one help me to run my skype autostart?
[13:44] <usr13> k1l_: True.
[13:44] <usr13> Jim_: Sure
[13:44] <daftykins> !zorion | Jim_
[13:45] <daftykins> Jim_: zorin is not supported here. go find their channel
[13:45] <Jim_> Thanks. Yes its okay
[13:46] <BluesKaj_> usr13, right, that makes sense :)
[13:47] <Jim_> I am new to this environment and could you help me how I should go to the Zorion channel?
[13:48] <daftykins> !alis | Jim_
[13:48] <cfhowlett> Jim_, /join #zorin         assuming the channel is on freenode
[13:48] <EriC^^> usr13: he might be able to be logged in as root on pts4 if he did a sudo su -
[13:48] <daftykins> it's probably unwise to send users off to guessed channel names ;)
[13:49] <usr13> EriC^^: Doesn't show up that way on my system.  I just tried it.
[13:49] <Jim_> Thats fantastic, thanks cfhowlett
[13:49] <EriC^^> usr13: same here
[13:49] <usr13> EriC^^: su is super user, (not root).
[13:49] <cfhowlett> Jim_, happy2help
[13:49] <usr13> EriC^^: We can log into root in tty but not pst
[13:50] <daftykins> usr13: "sudo su -" is like "sudo -i"
[13:50] <usr13> So, how is it possible to have root in a pspseudoterminal slave?
[13:50] <daftykins> no idea about pts'
[13:50] <usr13> daftykins: Correct
[13:51] <usr13> But I do not know how to explain "root pts/4" (See: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9206720/)
[13:52] <usr13> And why would the pts skip from 1 to 4 and then to 11?
[13:52] <usr13> I wish I'd had time to talk to him more yesterday, but ran out of time.
[13:53] <usr13> I could probably find it in yesterday's log.  Maybe someone else picked it up.
[13:54] <EriC^^> usr13: i got it
[13:54] <EriC^^> if you do sudo su -
[13:54] <EriC^^> then type gnome-terminal
[13:54] <EriC^^> you'll open a pts with root as the login
[13:55] <usr13> EriC^^: No, I just tried that.
[13:55] <EriC^^> hmm i just did
[13:55] <EriC^^> e        pts/25   :0               15:53    0.00s  0.05s  0.00s w
[13:55] <EriC^^> root     pts/26   :0               15:54    1.00s  0.00s  0.00s bash
[13:56] <EriC^^> i'm sure of it
[13:56] <usr13> EriC^^: Ok. Well, I tried it on mine and didn't see that.
[13:56] <EriC^^> at least on my pc
[13:56] <usr13> EriC^^: 14.04?
[13:56] <EriC^^> yes
[13:57] <EriC^^> usr13: type sudo su -c "gnome-terminal"
[13:57] <usr13> EriC^^: Oh ok.
[13:57] <EriC^^> then type "w"
[13:57] <bearface> or just 'sudo gnome-terminal'
[13:57] <EriC^^> or, sudo su - , then type gnome-terminal in that shell
[13:58] <Lachezar> Hey all. Upgraded Xubuntu to 14.10, but met an unfortunate event: can't install pidgin due to (unreasonable) dependency to libunity (which I have forbidden explicitly). How can I install pidgin?
[13:58] <JYD> Another bug: Every time I hit restart or shutdown,, it auto-loads seemingly misc programs from my last session,, even though "remember last session" is not selected. I keep deleting everything in cache/sessions,,  but it keeps happening. 14.04. Thoughts?
[14:01] <JYD> Not sure I'd seen any release ever where I've been affected by more bugs..
[14:01] <daftykins> JYD: was it an upgrade?
[14:01] <JYD> daftykins, No, fresh install