[17:43] <theadmin> DragonSlay: Metacity (or Compiz) should autostart in Gnome.
[17:43] <DragonSlay> auronandace, gnome2
[17:43] <DragonSlay> theadmin, it didn;t,
[17:43] <auronandace> DragonSlay: compiz --replace
[17:43] <auronandace> i think
[17:43] <zagibu> blitz: if the software extracts to a self-contained folder, and there is no install script, simply move the folder wherever you want
[17:43] <theadmin> DragonSlay: metacity --replace &disown
[17:43] <auronandace> sorry, metacity for gnome 2
[17:44] <theadmin> auronandace: Compiz works with any desktop, so that would do
[17:44] <auronandace> theadmin: if he has it installed
[17:44] <zagibu> blitz: and if you want the executable to be globally available in the console, place a softlink to it in /usr/local/bin or so
[17:44] <theadmin> auronandace: Ubuntu used to default to Compiz if drivers were working properly iirc
[17:44] <theadmin> auronandace: At least in 10.04
[17:46] <DragonSlay> theadmin, thanks, it worked.
[17:46] <alteregod> so again
[17:48] <soulux0-usb> quit
[17:49] <mielot> anyone having problems with rtl8191se in oneiric?
[17:49] <macroevolve> hi guys - wanted to see if anyone might have an answer to the above
[17:49]  * mielot
[17:50] <Daxter> mielot: i use rtl8192su (iirc) seems to wrk fine (i say this cause in 10.04 i use rtl8191se drivers for it)
[17:57] <p1k3> Hello! I installed Ubuntu 11.10 with Unity, however I didn't like it and wanted to remove it and install XFCE using this guide http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce . There weren't any error messages but when I rebooted, the desktop doesn't load. Stucks at Checking battery state...
[17:57] <Tixos> hi, can someone explain how i can see /.marcomedia/Flash_player
[17:57] <Tixos> i cant open the DIR, and i cant SU to root frmo ubuntu ?
[17:58] <paoloubuntu> !list
[17:58] <auronandace> !root | Tixos
[17:58] <Tixos> yes i know that
[17:59] <Tixos> but you cant 'sudo cd'
[17:59] <ubuntu1234> If I need to manually setup the /etc/fstab, the third entry which points to the fs-type can be entered as defaults?
[17:59] <auronandace> Tixos: have you enabled seeing hidden folders in the file manager
[17:59] <p1k3> Tixos: sudo su
[17:59] <Tixos> lol
[17:59] <jasef> Tixos, or sudo -i
[17:59] <gui113> Tixos: just try "sudo su", and the make the "cd..."
[17:59] <auronandace> p1k3: please don't advise that
[17:59] <Tixos> thanks
[17:59] <rcmaehl> I have a question. I have 2 network cards in my PC. One is intergrated, the other is an expansion card. Is it possible to allow the expansion card to be used so taht I can hook another pc to the expansion card via ethernet and taht pc will have internet access from the ethernet cable that is connected to the intergrated card. Basically can I use the expansion card to hook another pc to the network through my pc?
[17:59] <Tixos> shh auronandace
[18:00] <Tixos> not everyone is incapable
[18:00] <Daxter> rcmaehl: set the cadr you want to shar enbet access with ,the method so "shared with other computers" in network manager settings
[18:00] <Daxter> bad grammar day
[18:00] <ubuntu1234> Please guys answer my question
[18:01] <auronandace> ubuntu1234: pastebin your fstab
[18:01] <Daxter> right click network icon, chosse edit settings, the card you want to share access with set its method to shared with other computers
[18:01] <Daxter> ubuntu1234: question was?
[18:01] <rcmaehl> Daxter: O_O is it really that easy>?
[18:01] <Daxter> rcmaehl: yes i do this myself actually
[18:01] <ubuntu1234> auronandace: I am setting it up now
[18:01] <ubuntu1234> I am reading the fstab man page and doing it manually
[18:02] <ubuntu1234> I have encountered a problem with running the installation scripts through the 11.04 DVD
[18:03] <rcmaehl> ubuntu1234: DVD or liveusb?
[18:03] <ubuntu1234> I have manually completed the copying of the filesystem
[18:03] <ubuntu1234> rcmaehl:
[18:03] <ubuntu1234> rcmaehl: DVD
[18:03] <auronandace> ubuntu1234: so essentially you now have a frugal install?
[18:03] <ubuntu1234> I am completing the setup of the /etc/fstab manually
[18:03] <rcmaehl> auronandace: what's frugal mean?
[18:03] <blitz> thanks zagibu, and if I wanted to be able to run it via a command how would I put in on my path
[18:04] <ubuntu1234> and I will install grub on the MBR of the first HD manually too
[18:04] <Daxter> so rcmaehl set your expansion card to to 'shared with other computers'... they will be named as eth0 and eth1, use ifconfig in terminal to figure out which card belongs to which eth*
[18:04] <rcmaehl> Daxter: I know which card is which
[18:04] <zagibu> blitz: like I said, put a softlink in /usr/local/bin
[18:04] <ubuntu1234> auronandace: What is frugal ?
[18:04] <blitz> that'll do it automatically?
[18:04] <rcmaehl> Daxter: the card that is the expansion card is not connected to the internet
[18:04] <blitz> thanks
[18:05] <Daxter> yeah
[18:05] <mie_maniez> pulseaudio ----- >> E: main.c: Daemon startup without any loaded modules, refusing to work.
[18:05] <mie_maniez> how i can fix it?
[18:05] <rcmaehl> also is there a linux distro that is small enough to run from a floppy disk?
[18:05] <Daxter> just figuring out which card is which eth* is the trick... as networkmaanger goes by eth* not 'interal' and 'expansion' card
[18:05] <DragonSlay> theadmin, when i log out and log in , metacity won't start by default, is there any option to set metacity to default
[18:05] <auronandace> ubuntu1234: you copied the live environment to a harddrive instead of installing normally (using a live system as a harddisk install is frugal)
[18:06] <theadmin> DragonSlay: Just add "metacity --replace" to startup apps
[18:06] <rcmaehl> I got to go
[18:06] <Krenair> How do I install OpenJDK 7 on Ubuntu 11.04?
[18:07] <ubuntu1234> auronandace: That is exactly what I have done
[18:07] <Krenair> Looks like it wasn't added to the natty repos...
[18:07] <t4unt091> Is there a guide to how I can install a bitcoin miner on my Ubuntu machine?
[18:07] <ubuntu1234> I have some experience with installing gentoo and lfs so It is not a problem for me to do it.
[18:07] <Daxter> Krenair: i thought v7 isnt released yet you have to add it manually
[18:07] <auronandace> ubuntu1234: why didn't you install like normal?
[18:07] <DragonSlay> theadmin: ok..
[18:07] <ubuntu1234> auronandace: the installation process crashed.
[18:08] <auronandace> ubuntu1234: at what point?
[18:08] <ubuntu1234> auronandace: In copying the filesystem
[18:08] <ubuntu1234> It asked about the user information
[18:09] <Krenair> Daxter, JDK 7 reached General Availability on 28 July 2011.
[18:09] <ubuntu1234> and started to copy the filesystem
[18:09] <ubuntu1234> but it didn't finish
[18:09] <ubuntu1234> I had to manually do it.
[18:09] <connor_> Sup, I'm using XFCE and I accidentally stopped xfwm4 from starting when I log in, as a result, I can't focus any windows to type in a terminal to start xfwm4, how on earth would I get it started?
[18:09] <Daxter> hmm but still i thought java7 was still in testing..hmm have to look again
[18:09] <auronandace> ubuntu1234: hmm, odd, have you checked the harddisk for faults?
[18:09] <Krenair> Daxter, I was pretty sure that oneiric users can get it from the repos...
[18:10] <Daxter> hmm
[18:10] <ubuntu1234> I have done mount -o bind /dev /target/dev and mount -o bind /proc /target/proc
[18:10] <Daxter> !java
[18:10] <ubuntu1234> auronandace: I have no HD errors
[18:10] <ubuntu1234> It has completed the process normally with the bare cp CLI
[18:12] <Krenair> Daxter, that does not cover OpenJDK 7
[18:12] <connor_> Got it restarted, I was able to type into firefox so I typed xfwm4 in the search bar, pressed alt f2 and copy pasted the text into there and had it run from a terminal
[18:12] <ubuntu1234> I need to manually setup 3 things: 1- the /etc/fstab, 2- Manually add my user information, 3- Manually install the boot lader.
[18:12] <ubuntu1234> loader
[18:12] <Daxter> right
[18:13] <Daxter> i typed that for myself lol
[18:13] <ubuntu1234> auronandace: Am I right?
[18:13] <auronandace> ubuntu1234: if you have experience with setting up gentoo and lfs i find it rather difficult to believe you are stuck on setting up fstab
[18:14] <ubuntu1234> I am not stuck, I am trying to make it like professional that is all.
[18:14] <ubuntu1234> auronandace: see?
[18:14] <ubuntu1234> so are the 3 steps right?
[18:15] <auronandace> ubuntu1234: i understand, but if the installer didn't finish i get the feeling that apt is going to be royally messed up
[18:15] <ubuntu1234> auronandace: so how to correct the apt problem from the chroot?
[18:15] <auronandace> ubuntu1234: i have no idea sorry :)
[18:16] <acu> Is anyone using BackupPC ? _ I wonder if there one can Search for a specific file which was backed up - Fom the cgi-bin (web interface) - by choosing the host of interest - there is a Browse Backup option which allows you to browse through the name of folders and files backed up - but I am looking for search function - I want to find a file and I do not know where it is ? Can anyone help ?
[18:16] <auronandace> ubuntu1234: i'm more of an archlinux guy so pacman is more my style than apt
[18:16] <ubuntu1234> auronandace: your point can be right and can be wrong though since the db would be copied.
[18:17] <b1tbkt> in ubuntu livecd, what's responsible for creating the "install ubuntu" desktop icon? specifically, if I want to modify the RELEASE var that is called in the corresponding .desktop file, where would I do that?
[18:17] <auronandace> ubuntu1234: that is done after the user info, if i recall correctly, so if you need to manually add users chances are you'd need to fix apt
[18:18] <auronandace> ubuntu1234: if i were you i'd start over again and try with the alternate installer if the gui one is giving you trouble
[18:20] <guntbert> ubuntu1234: did you md5sum check the iso?
[18:21] <ubuntu1234> It is correct since it was downloaded by torrent.
[18:21] <auronandace> ubuntu1234: so you did ms5sum the iso?
[18:22] <auronandace> md5sum
[18:22] <phw> How can I get a serial console (server) on ubuntu?
[18:23] <ubuntu1234> auronandace: It is a recent problem and I didn't encounter this problem except today and I didn't md5sum the iso image.
[18:23] <ubuntu1234> It is on DVD now and I don't have the iso image anymore.
[18:23] <sx> quit
[18:23] <zgr> guys what key reveals grub menu? shift?
[18:23] <ubuntu1234> zgr: Esc?
[18:24] <ubuntu1234> zgr: Any key?
[18:24] <auronandace> ubuntu1234: have you installed it from that dvd before without problems?
[18:24] <ubuntu1234> auronandace: Yes
[18:24] <auronandace> zgr: yes, shift
[18:24] <ubuntu1234> I have checked it too through the Menu.
[18:25] <auronandace> ubuntu1234: oh, then the image is probably ok (unless the disk has been badly scratched since)
[18:25] <zgr> ok thanks
[18:25] <ubuntu1234> auronandace: I honestly don't know.
[18:26] <auronandace> ubuntu1234: how many times has the gui install failed?
[18:27] <ubuntu1234> 3 times
[18:28] <auronandace> ubuntu1234: ok, i'd try the alternate installer
[18:29] <ubuntu1234> auronandace: I am having trouble with booting with the DVD though. I have done another way of downloading the CD isoimage for 11.04 and will put it on a usb flash.
[18:30] <ubuntu1234> and will use it for installation if the problem persists.
[18:30] <auronandace> ubuntu1234: sounds like the dvd is rather bad
[18:30] <ubuntu1234> auronandace: That is what I thought.
[18:31] <graft> ubuntu1234: did you checksum your DVD image after downloading?
[18:32] <ubuntu1234> I wonder why do non-brand DVD get scratched and the ones used by good companies don't do so frequently.
[18:32] <ubuntu1234> graft: I didn't need to do so since I have downloaded it via torrent.
[18:32] <prooz> What is wrong when i get Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory when i try to send sound through my device as a regular user, but it works fine with root? Yes, the user is in the audio group
[18:32] <ubuntu1234> which does the checking automatically.
[18:32] <jutnux> ubuntu1234: Why not put it in USB?
[18:33] <ubuntu1234> jutnux: I don't have the iso image anymore.
[18:33] <ubuntu1234> :(
[18:35] <grendal_prime> hey guys
[18:36] <grendal_prime> hey...i got a pcmcia nic...it does not want to work..dmesg shows it pluges in..but nothing after that
[18:36] <grendal_prime> its for an older machine laptop and umm its a intel nic
[18:36] <grendal_prime> is there some package i need to install for....pcmcia?
[18:37] <grendal_prime> what i get here in the middle of  a cycle dump?
[18:38] <dury> hurra for linux !!!! hi there all :)
[18:38] <k3s0> sup
[18:38] <grendal_prime> whats linux?
[18:38] <alteregod> soccer league
[18:39] <grendal_prime> ahh...ya i like soccer
[18:39] <dury> everything you want
[18:39] <alteregod> bend it like grendal
[18:39] <grendal_prime> *&^% a right
[18:40] <grendal_prime> dury, i need something that tells me the preasure of my tires...
[18:40] <grendal_prime> linux do that good?
[18:40] <dury> the more I use the more I like it :)
[18:40] <k3s0> A mechanic!
[18:41] <edfed> http://pastie.org/3220130
[18:41] <edfed> help
[18:41] <Mark__> hi
[18:42] <Mark__> Why is sudo bash harmful?
[18:42] <edfed> a lot of softwares have disapeared
[18:42] <dury> encourage yourself to use it :)
[18:43] <sskalnik> grendal_prime:  http://www.obdtester.com/pyobd
[18:43] <Mark__> Arch>n00buntu
[18:44] <edfed> Arch>?
[18:45] <Mark__> install gentoo
[18:45] <grendal_prime> wait tell dury finds out he can use his old pent2's for router/vpn concentrators
[18:45] <grendal_prime> all hell is gonna break loos in here
[18:45] <sskalnik> grendal_prime:  I think there is an OBDII logger in one of the official repos.  No idea on the actual problem you need help with, unfortunately.
[18:47] <jasef> !language | Mark__
[18:47] <grendal_prime> ahhh  nothing like gay bashing to start the day out
[18:47] <apsuva> Mark__ get out #gentoo
[18:47] <auronandace> !9.04 | sightlight
[18:48] <grendal_prime> ya sightlight good distro...but ummm might want to go with 10.04 at least
[18:48] <sweb1> my cron not work every minutes
[18:48] <sweb1> https://gist.github.com/1648962
[18:48] <sweb1> why
[18:48] <sweb1> crontab -e
[18:48] <jasef> Thanks, Myrtti. I didn't want to pull the ops trigger in case I wasn't supposed to :) you saved me the trouble
[18:48] <theadmin> sweb1: You need "/usr/bin/wget", not just "wget"
[18:49] <llutz> sweb1: "1 * * * * .."  is h+01 every hour, not every minute
[18:49] <theadmin> sweb1: Also, that's not every minute, that's "every first minute", which is pretty much "every hour"... Every minute would be */1
[18:50] <mang0> I'm trying to set up gwibber on ubuntu 11.10, but I can't seem to add an acct correctly. When I try to add my twitter acct, I put in my user/pass to authenticate etc, but then I don't get any updates on my timeline, just a blank screen. The same with Facebook. What'm I doing wrong?
[18:50] <sweb1> */1 * * * * is correct ?
[18:50] <jrib> sweb1: the /1 is redundant
[18:50] <theadmin> sweb1: Yes, that will do -- you want something like */1 * * * *  /usr/bin/wget --spider http://localhost/action
[18:51] <theadmin> jrib: Oh, indeed, lol
[18:51] <jasef> What is libreoffice-l10n-common? I'm getting an autoremove option for it.
[18:51] <asaint> hello guys I updated to 11.10 recently and I want to use the old gnome desktop ........... how can i do that?
[18:51] <theadmin> jasef: As the name suggests, common files for libreoffice localiztion.
[18:51] <auronandace> asaint:you don't
[18:51] <auronandace> !gnome2 | asaint
[18:51] <theadmin> asaint: You can't. Try Xubuntu.
[18:51] <mang0> asaint: sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback iirc
[18:52] <mang0> check online though
[18:52] <theadmin> mang0: Doesn't work in Oneiric
[18:52] <ubluntu> !nounity
[18:52] <theadmin> mang0: Gnome2 ain't supported you know
[18:52] <jasef> theadmin, so is it safe to perform autoremove on it? It's also suggesting I remove libnl2, and flashplugin-downloader, but I know what the last one is.
[18:52] <sweb1> jrib, theadmin, llutz: ty guys
[18:53] <theadmin> !info libnl2
[18:53] <theadmin> jasef: Eh... might be a bad idea to remove that one
[18:53] <mang0> theadmin: Ah, oky
[18:53] <jasef> Then... I wonder why it's letting me auto-remove it.
[18:53] <asaint> is there anyway to have the look at least like customizing the start menu ......... etc
[18:54] <theadmin> jasef: Some dependency mess. Do: sudo apt-get install libnl2 flashplugin-downloader (you sure it's "downloader", not "installer"?)
[18:54] <grendal_prime> ok pcmcia started working?
[18:54] <grendal_prime> werid
[18:54] <grendal_prime> but ill take what i can get
[18:54] <t4unt091> install python-pyopencl subversion.  --- what does this mean?
[18:54] <grendal_prime> i did install some laptop utils
[18:54] <grendal_prime> maybe it was in there
[18:54] <FloodBot1> grendal_prime: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:54] <theadmin> jasef: That will make it marked as "manually installed", and as such apt won't autoremove it
[18:54] <jasef> Nope, it definitely says downloader. Is that plugin just for Firefox, btw?
[18:55] <theadmin> jasef: Any browser with NPAPI support (Netscape Plugin Application Programming Interface). That means Firefox, Chrome/Chromium, Opera, many others.
[18:55] <asaint> repeating >is there anyway to have the look at least like customizing the start menu ......... etc
[18:55] <auronandace> asaint: in unity and gnome3? don't hold your breath
[18:56] <jasef> theadmin, oh... I thought Chrome had built-in flash. Ah well, the dependency problem is probably because I'm on 12.04, thanks for your help
[18:56] <theadmin> jasef: Chrome does have built-in flash, but it still supports NPAPI
[18:56] <theadmin> jasef: So I have no reason to take it out of the list
[18:57] <asaint> auronandace so the alternative is KDE
[18:57] <jasef> theadmin, okay, I just didn't know, that's all. Didn't mean any offence.
[18:57] <auronandace> asaint: my favourite is xfce (lxde is rather nice too)
[18:58] <theadmin> asaint: XFCE is closest to Gnome2.
[18:58] <theadmin> jasef: None taken\
[18:58] <asaint> auronandace never logged on to any of the one you mentioned before I will try them ..... am not a fan of KDE
[18:58] <theadmin> Bah, damn backslash key >.<
[18:59] <jasef> theadmin, =) alright, cool.
[18:59] <t4unt> is this reversible ?  -sudo apt-get remove nvidia-common
[18:59] <jasef> I hate asking another question so soon, but was just updating and got an error at the end that said "WARNING: gnome-keyring:: no socket to connect to", is this something to worry about?
[18:59] <jasef> t4unt, sudo apt-get install nvidia-common
[18:59] <asaint> auronandace - theadmin thanks
[19:00] <t4unt> thanks
[19:00] <theadmin> jasef: Probably yes, if you DO use gnome-keyring. By the way, Precise is not supported here, go to #ubuntu+1
[19:00] <auronandace> asaint: no worries :)
[19:01] <inet> [regex:(?i)joined]
[19:01] <jasef> theadmin, alright, thanks. I'll go ask them to make sure it's all working. Sorry for posting here, just did it because I did notice it in 11.10 when I had it too
[19:04] <Ivoz_> how would you find out which users are in a particular group?
[19:04] <theadmin> Ivoz_: groups USERNAME
[19:05] <anonimoteste> hi
[19:05] <theadmin> Ivoz_: Oh, sorry
[19:05] <Ivoz_> theadmin: no, I want the other way around
[19:06] <grendal_prime> this is why i lover ubuntu...
[19:06] <Ivoz_> users GROUP doesn't work though, I don't think :P
[19:06] <grendal_prime> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man4/ep.4freebsd.html
[19:06] <grendal_prime> search for the word Joke in there
[19:06] <grendal_prime> or better yet pencil
[19:06] <theadmin> Ivoz_: lid -g groupname
[19:09] <WinnerForEver> How do  I get the free deskspace and information about my partitions from the terminal?
[19:10] <graft> grendal_prime: wtf
[19:10] <graft> WinnerForEver: df
[19:11] <graft> WinnerForEver: or df -h
[19:11] <grendal_prime> graft?
[19:11] <carbon_> If I needed the dependency libqtcore4.  What would the full library package be.  Or where could I look it up to specifically say this dependency is in this package. Install this (x) developer package
[19:11] <graft> grendal_prime: that pencil thing...
[19:11] <grendal_prime> oh the line about the nic not working
[19:11] <grendal_prime> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man4/ep.4freebsd.html
[19:12] <graft> grendal_prime: yeah i read it, that's why i said wtf :)
[19:12] <grendal_prime> on that page there is a diagnostic error
[19:12] <grendal_prime> ya
[19:12] <grendal_prime> its funny hu
[19:12] <oCean> graft: please don't use such language/acronyms here
[19:12] <grendal_prime> i mean where use but ubuntu man pages to you get that sort of honesty
[19:12] <grendal_prime> they should actually put the wtf in the manual
[19:12] <RF14> what is ubuntu ?
[19:12] <grendal_prime> oops sorry
[19:12] <oCean> grendal_prime: not laughing, stop it
[19:13] <grendal_prime> ok sorry
[19:13] <WinnerForEver> graft: Thanks, it worked!
[19:13] <grendal_prime> hey RF14 i was told you can check your tire pressure with it
[19:13] <t4unt> hey guys I just made a good deal of changes in terminal
[19:13] <t4unt> but i'm running ubuntu from a bootable usb. one of the commands called for sudo reboot
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> grendal_prime  wrong channel
[19:13] <t4unt> were all my changes lost?
[19:13] <graft> carbon_: you probably want to install the package libqtcore4, eh
[19:13] <carbon_> rf14: I thought it was a rectal exam
[19:13] <RF14> i'm serious what is ubuntu ?
[19:14] <graft> t4unt: what kind of changes?
[19:14] <carbon_>  graft:  Thats the package name itself.  Oh
[19:14] <dlentz> carbon_, libqt4-dev
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> RF14  ubuntu is an operating system that makes your hardware work
[19:14] <user1> Hey, how are you
[19:14] <RF14> MonkeyDust: ok
[19:14] <tensorpudding> most of your hardware works most of the time, anyway
[19:14] <tensorpudding> ubuntu makes no guarantees
[19:15] <ix_> how do I check a liveusb for defects? made with unetbootin
[19:15] <carbon_> dlentz: much obliged
[19:15] <tensorpudding> unless your hardware was certified to work with ubuntu
[19:15] <t4unt> trying to install a miner
[19:15] <user1> Anybody can help me? i try to RUN MS-DOS application netword under ubuntu
[19:15] <t4unt> sudo apt-get update
[19:15] <grendal_prime> RF14: if you want to use linux start with ubuntu.. it will probaly handle what ever you want to do...including desktop publishing and media editing..but there are several linux distrobutions if it does not focuse on what yo uneed
[19:15] <t4unt> sudo apt-get install libqtgui4
[19:15] <graft> t4unt: a bitcoin miner?
[19:15] <t4unt> then installed some drivers
[19:15] <t4unt> graft, yes
[19:16] <user1> Anybody can help me? i try to RUN MS-DOS application network under ubuntu. I can't :(
[19:16] <t4unt> ok well, I guess everything was lost
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> user1  try wine
[19:16] <t4unt> because "fglrxinfo" returns "command not found"
[19:16] <sdferfx> Hello. I am trying to run KGPG from Unity. It doesn't seem to be working. It doesn't add a tray icon and I can't see it. Can you please tell me how to make KDE apps work correctly with Unity?
[19:17] <user1> I have wine, but it not work for me :(
[19:17] <RF14> grendal_prime: i'm not using linux
[19:17] <carbon_> user1:  try dosbox.  As for networking threw it.  Never tried.
[19:17] <theadmin> user1: Uhhh, dosbox?
[19:17] <theadmin> user1: Works well for DOS stuff
[19:17] <user1> MonkeyDust, Dosbox too
[19:17] <user1> and dosemu
[19:17] <user1> :(
[19:17] <theadmin> Hm.
[19:17] <tensorpudding> application network?
[19:17] <tensorpudding> what does that mean?
[19:18] <user1> the error for dosemu its: ERROR: MFS: couldn't find root path /media/CDROM
[19:18] <tensorpudding> you can use virtualbox or qemu to virtualize a pc, and install ms-dos in the machine
[19:18] <user1> I have a server WINServer2003Pro
[19:18] <user1> And a unit shared
[19:19] <user1> I mount thah unit in Ubuntu, i can read dis partition mounted
[19:19] <user1> but when i try to run msdos application
[19:19] <tensorpudding> they both have a not-too-hard-to-set-up NATed networking option that allows one-way access
[19:19] <graft> t4unt: why would everything be lost?
[19:19] <t4unt> Can anyone help me? Is it possible to run a bitcoin miner on a Ubunut machine which is running on a bootable-usb?
[19:19] <graft> t4unt: oh, if you're running from USB, yeah, you probably lost it
[19:19] <tensorpudding> user1, "partition mounted" being some kind of SMB share?
[19:19] <t4unt> graft, becasue the OS isn't saved to a hard disk?
[19:20] <t4unt> damn :\
[19:20] <graft> t4unt: unless you setup your USB disk to have some save space
[19:20] <Daxter> t4unt: with bootable usb you can set it to save changes with the usb creator app in ubuntu
[19:20] <sdferfx> Anyone? It has to be a common question. I need KGPG tray to work in Unity.
[19:20] <graft> t4unt: which you can do, the USB creator will guide you through it
[19:20] <user1> The partition i mounted with SMB
[19:20] <t4unt> ok thanks I'm going to try taht now
[19:20] <t4unt> that*
[19:20] <tensorpudding> user1, have you tried running dosbox with the partition that you mounted using SMB being the C: drive?
[19:21] <user1> thensourpid, yes
[19:21] <tensorpudding> user1, what happened?
[19:21] <user1> not show me nothing in terminal
[19:23] <user1> with dosemu: Show me -- ERROR: MFS: couldn't find root path /media/CDROM
[19:23] <dlentz> sdferfx, do any other kde/qt apps work with unity tray?
[19:23] <user1> i can change this path?
[19:23] <tensorpudding> user1, shows you nothing?
[19:23] <tensorpudding> user1, so the program crashed?
[19:24] <tensorpudding> really, the simplest way, if you have a license, is to virtualize some OS that the app is known to run on
[19:25] <graft> user1: yeah virtualbox is free and works great, if you have a windows license
[19:25] <sdferfx> dlentz, yes, odesk team works with unity tray
[19:25] <sdferfx> I have not tried any other Qt/KDE apps
[19:25] <grendal_prime> grendal_prime: = vcp  (just incase you are looking for advice on virtualization)
[19:25] <user1> tensorpudding: when i try this: mount c /mnt/cres show this message. Directory /mnt/cres doesn't exist.
[19:26] <user1> graft: i have licence
[19:26] <grendal_prime> what is the app you want to run?
[19:26] <jdiggy> I want to check whether Upstart is installed with a script. Any ideas? So far, my best idea is to check the output of `init --version`
[19:27] <user1> i try to run a aplication for bussines. It's very simple
[19:27] <graft> user1: yeah just go with virtualbox, the networking should work seamlessly, uses native libraries, much better than trying to get dosbox or wine working
[19:27] <graft> user1: what's the application?
[19:27] <user1> one time ago run good
[19:28] <graft> user1: wine is unreliable that way, they're always fiddling with the libs
[19:28] <user1> my english is bad :(
[19:29] <sdferfx> how do I get unity to tile?
[19:29] <sdferfx> i try dragging window to the left edge of screen and it just sits half off-screen
[19:29] <user1> libs?
[19:29] <user1> all libs?
[19:30] <tensorpudding> user1, does that directory exist on your system?
[19:30] <inet> VER
[19:31] <graft> user1: never mind... just try virtualbox
[19:31] <Guest79653> hello
[19:32] <graft> huh... grooveshark runs in HTML5 now?
[19:33] <user1> thank you
[19:34] <user0> hi
[19:36] <user0> i installed ubuntu 10.4. i put my usb on my computer it does not appear to open it???
[19:37] <graft> user0: you might have to change your boot order in your BIOS
[19:39] <dlentz> sdferfx, do you have appmenu-qt package installed
[19:40] <dlentz> ..and sni-qt?
[19:42] <sdferfx> dlentz, no
[19:42] <sdferfx> unless they were installed automatically when I installed either odesk team viewer or kgpg
[19:42] <sdferfx> appmenu-qt is already the newest version. sni-qt is already the newest version.
[19:42] <sdferfx> so yes
[19:45] <dlentz> sdferfx, this is the closeest thing i could find
[19:45] <dlentz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/40145/using-appindicators-with-the-qt-framework
[19:45] <regedarek> hey
[19:45] <ShishKabab> I think something on my network is messing with my DHCP. Weird addresses which don't work are handed out. If I take a static address, everything works. Does anyone know of a tool I can use to send a fake DHCP request so I can check with Wireshark who responds?
[19:45] <regedarek> i`m looking for the cheapest VPS
[19:46] <renemoraes> my print screen is returnin only a black screen with the mouse cursor... can anyone help me?
[19:47] <northernen> My Unity sidebar only covers half the screen (height wise). What can be the issue?
[19:47] <regedarek> reinstall ubuntu
[19:47] <renemoraes> i'm using ubuntu 11.10 gnome 3
[19:50] <Inventor> hola
[19:50] <Inventor> Hay alguien en español
[19:50] <Inventor> estoy intentando instalar ubuntu
[19:50] <Inventor> sobre windows
[19:51] <Inventor> y mi ignorancia me rebasa!!!!
[19:51] <Inventor> resulta que descargué
[19:51] <Inventor> el wubi
[19:51] <renemoraes> @Inventor cual verson? y cual maquina?
[19:52] <Inventor> 11.10
[19:52] <Inventor> la máquina es armada
[19:52] <Inventor> y el procesador es un atlhon II
[19:52] <Inventor> 3.0 G
[19:52] <renemoraes> queres intalalo sobre windows?
[19:52] <Inventor> De cualquier forma
[19:52] <Inventor> de haecho intenté bajar varias opciones
[19:53] <dlentz> northernen, see if playing with this key in gconf-editor helps /apps/compiz-1/plugins/unityshell/screen0/options/launcher_hide_mode
[19:53] <Inventor> dice en la página que se puede hacer un CD de arranque
[19:53] <dlentz> try setting to 1
[19:53] <Inventor> parece que además del Wubi
[19:54] <Inventor> hay que bajar una imagen del programa, es asi?
[19:54] <Inventor> al arrancar el wubi
[19:54] <Inventor> dice que no hay nada en el disco 1, 2, 3 y 4
[19:55] <renemoraes> si, un instante
[19:56] <Inventor> no te preocupes
[19:56] <Inventor> voy escribiendo el relatorio y luego lo ves de un solo jalón....
[19:56] <Inventor> tampoco soy muy rápido con el teclado
[19:57] <Inventor> el punto es que me generó un archivo de registro de error
[19:58] <renemoraes> @Inventor - Nunca he usado wubi. La mejor manera de instalar Ubuntu para mí es hacer un CD de instalación. descargar la versión de ubuntu y grabar en un CD con Nero o cualquier programa de Windows. Luego, inserte el CD y reinicie el equipo.
[19:58] <Inventor> y lo que pude entender es que está buscando un CD o una imagen (archivo
[19:58] <Slart> !es
[19:58] <Inventor> OK
[19:59] <Inventor> ahora las descargas estan super lentas (5 horas dice el sistema)
[19:59] <Inventor> lo intentaré
[19:59] <Inventor> Gracias ubottu
[19:59] <Inventor> lo tendré en cuenta
[19:59] <Slart> this channel is english only.. go to #ubuntu-es if you want to use spanish
[19:59] <jdiggy> I want to check whether Upstart is installed with a script. Any ideas? So far, my best idea is to check the output of `init --version`
[19:59] <Inventor> have you some problem with spanish
[20:00] <Inventor> make some strange in your sistem???
[20:00] <renemoraes> can anyone help me with a print-screen problem?
[20:00] <jrib> jdiggy: why do you want to check that?
[20:00] <Slart> Inventor: I don't have a problem.. but the channel policies says "english only" for this channel
[20:00] <Inventor> OK
[20:00] <jrib> !ask | renemoraes
[20:00] <Inventor> thanks bye
[20:01] <Daxter> renemoraes: state question
[20:01] <renemoraes> my print screen is returning as a black png file with the mouse cursor... i dont know why
[20:01] <EzeQL> hi , how can i check if i do have zlib installed?
[20:01] <renemoraes> it was working... after an update its start to work like this
[20:01] <jrib> EzeQL: why do you need to know?
[20:02] <EzeQL> jrib, because a app keeps telling me that i dont have it
[20:02] <renemoraes> Daxter: do u know anything about it Daxter?
[20:02] <EzeQL> but i think i do
[20:02] <jrib> EzeQL: what app....?
[20:02] <EzeQL> Im trying to compile something
[20:02] <jrib> EzeQL: right.  What are you trying to compile?
[20:02] <EzeQL> haXe
[20:02] <Daxter> what app you using renemoraes ? also what os version..never heard of this before
[20:03] <jrib> EzeQL: haxe is in the repositories, install it using APT
[20:03] <jrib> !info haxe | EzeQL
[20:03] <renemoraes> Daxter: i think its new... i'm using Ubuntu 11.10 Gnome 3
[20:03] <EzeQL> jrib, i dont want the ver form the repo
[20:03] <jrib> EzeQL: why?
[20:03] <EzeQL> i do want latest ver from svn
[20:03] <EzeQL> because its not updated
[20:03] <renemoraes> Daxter: i use the gnome-screenshot tot take the picture
[20:03] <Tucks> Hey guys.
[20:03] <jrib> !compile > EzeQL
[20:03] <angelo_> Hello :)
[20:04] <angelo_> How can i download with irc?
[20:04] <jdiggy> jrib: I'm making a Ruby gem that has an install bin that installs an Upstart script. I want to check for Upstart before installing it. :)
[20:04] <Tucks> I need some advice
[20:04] <jrib> EzeQL: you need -dev versions of libraries if you want to compile with them, you should look into apt-get build-dep, more info at ubotut's link
[20:04] <regedarek> anybody knows where i find cheap VPS
[20:04] <angelo_> How can i download?
[20:04] <jrib> jdiggy: try #upstart maybe
[20:04] <jdiggy> jrib: there's an idea. Thanks. :)
[20:04] <northernen> dlentz, it's not auto-hiding. It's just the bottom part seems to be missing, so the top half thinks it's at the bottom.
[20:04] <Daxter> weird renemoraes not sure what to tell you? did you update your graphics cdrivers( if any)
[20:04] <jrib> regedarek: not here
[20:05] <renemoraes> Daxter: I guess i did an update this morning... it was a kernell-header update... didnt u get this one?
[20:06] <Daxter> renemoraes: i dont use 11.10 so dont know about update
[20:06] <bullgard6> [Ubuntu 11.10, GNOME Shell 3.2.1] How can I determine if Gwibber is running or not?
[20:07] <renemoraes> Daxter: well.. thanks anyway... i will try to find something on askubuntu
[20:07] <renemoraes> Daxter: i really apreciate ur help Daxter
[20:07] <chrstphrhrt> anyone know how to change the screen brightness control step? i find that only having 5 steps is not fine-grained enough
[20:07] <Daxter> np
[20:13] <mithrop> hi here
[20:17] <shizuo16> Hello ubuntu community
[20:17] <shizuo16> Some one know how can i install windows in my disk without deleting ubuntu ?
[20:18] <shizuo16> Some one is here ?
[20:19] <dimas_> i did install more ram and now when i am looking at a video on youtube the computer goes to black screen with some codes but doesnt allow me to do nothing so i try check the ram and in the live cd doest show the check memory option in the grub menu so what should i do?
[20:19] <A|i3N> question... trying to install ubuntu 11.10 on a computer with 4 monitors, and a FirePro 2450 video card. Every time I load the proprietary driver, it'll boot to the ubuntu background and do nothing. No login box. I've even tried with just one monitor. Anybody have experience with this issue on this video card?
[20:19] <downbeam> hey room
[20:20] <downbeam> i'm new to this can someone help me?
[20:20] <dimas_> *ask
[20:20] <bullgard6> !ask | downbeam
[20:20] <shizuo16> helllo some here ?
[20:21] <bullgard6> shizuo16: Yes.
[20:21] <shizuo16> well some one can tell me how can i install windows without removing ubuntu ?
[20:22] <Humbedooh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot#Installing_Windows_After_Ubuntu
[20:22] <bullgard6> !multiboot | shizuo16
[20:22] <shizuo16> bullgard6: well i can't install he told me to remove partition
[20:22] <dimas_> shizuo16,  install wine and then from wine you can install windows in ubuntu
[20:22] <bioShark> hello
[20:22] <shizuo16> This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates.
[20:23] <shizuo16> dimas_: install wine then ..?
[20:23] <bullgard6> !dualboot | shizuo16
[20:23] <dimas_> shizuo16, then when you open wine you will have the option to install windows
[20:24] <shizuo16> bullgard6: i'm asking how can i dualboot
[20:24] <Humbedooh> and he's giving you the answer
[20:24] <shizuo16> ubottu: page not found
[20:25] <Humbedooh> shizuo16, there's something wrong with your browser then
[20:25] <bullgard6> shizuo16: And I gave you an answer through ubottu.
[20:25] <Humbedooh> all the pages you have been linked work just fine
[20:25] <Humbedooh> unless you are being censored
[20:25] <KashyapGada> how to save a file edited by vim in terminal
[20:25] <EzeQL> usr/lib/libz.so.1 , what doesnt that .1 means?
[20:26] <EzeQL> whats the difference between .so and .so.1?
[20:26] <trism> KashyapGada: :wq
[20:26] <Humbedooh> it's a version number
[20:26] <Myrtti> dimas_: please don't give bad advice
[20:26] <shizuo16> well thanks i'm tying to read the web page and i'll came back ^_^
[20:26] <mithrop> hi here (again)
[20:27] <mithrop> I'm looking on a way to simply give a try to Gnome. I'm in XFCE right now.
[20:27] <Humbedooh> EzeQL, libc is called libc.so.6 fx, if it is version 6
[20:27] <dimas_> Myrtti, wine is not a good option to install windows inside ubuntu?
[20:27] <mithrop> If I install ubuntu-desktop, I will have a lot of useless packages, isn't it ?
[20:27] <Humbedooh> wine isn't windows
[20:27] <Myrtti> dimas_: no. it's impossible to install that way.
[20:28] <LjL> dimas_: WINE doesn't let you "install Windows in Ubuntu". it lets you run some Windows programs from inside Ubuntu.
[20:28] <EzeQL> Humbedooh ty
[20:28] <dimas_> Myrtti, sorry then as i thought i had done it before
[20:28] <DJones> shizuo16: There's a section in the ubuntu documentation on how to install windows after you've installed Ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[20:29] <DJones> shizuo16: About 2/3rds of the way down the page, hopefully that will help you get going with that
[20:29] <allu2> could someone using gnome-shell try to run "teeworlds" game in full screen and see if i'm not the only one it doesn't work as should.
[20:29] <shizuo16> DJones: going to read it thanks
[20:30] <DJones> shizuo16: Your welcome
[20:30] <redlegoreng> Hi ! How can I do to rename my 2nd partition ? (ntfs, shared with windows) I managed to set another auto mount point using fstab but it still appears as "200 gb files system"
[20:30] <dimas_> could a browser problem crash the entire system?
[20:30] <bullgard6> EzeQL: The .1 means the interface number 1.
[20:30] <shizuo16> DJones: nothing found they dont talk about my problem
[20:31] <shizuo16> DJones: Cause i need to install windows after ubuntu but i can't cause windows dont know the partitions
[20:31] <DJones> shizuo16: I thought you wanted to install windows after installing Ubuntu?
[20:31] <van> moving coursor around takes cpu usage up to 100%. is it normal?
[20:31] <KashyapGada> trism: doesn work
[20:31] <shizuo16> DJones: YEP i already have ubuntu in full disk
[20:32] <andy4> hello there, i need some real help. i found a very old HD (after 20years) and i plugged it and the bios finds it, however, ubuntu on boot looks like it tries to mount the hd and return an error, then leaves me a command line. how can i disable this disc check so i can copy the disk using ddrescue touchin it ass less ass possible?
[20:32] <van> its some old pentium 1,7 ghz btw
[20:32] <downbeam> is there a list of terminal terms somewhere?
[20:32] <shizuo16> DJones: and ican't install windows cause he dont know the partitions he sad that i need to remove partition
[20:32] <andy4> as
[20:32] <DJones> shizuo16: You need to create a partition for windows to install to first using gparted etc and format it as NTFS
[20:32] <shizuo16> DJones: got it ?
[20:32] <shizuo16> DJones: ahha
[20:33] <downbeam> is there a list of terminal terms somewhere?
[20:33] <trism> KashyapGada: press Esc first
[20:33] <andy4> i just don't want ubuntu to mount or even search for other disks on boot time
[20:34] <DJones> shizuo16: You'll need to boot up with a livecd first to so that you can shrink your ubuntu partition and create the NTFS partition in empty space, BUT I'd recommend a backup first before modifying your partitions
[20:34] <trism> KashyapGada: although if you are editing a system file, you may not have write access so you will probably need to use sudo vim /path/to/file
[20:34] <downbeam> is there a list of terminal terms somewhere?
[20:34] <bullgard6> downbeam: Hardly. You better look out for a similar subject's list of terms.
[20:34] <KashyapGada> trism: Thanks i was not pressing esc
[20:34] <KashyapGada> now it works
[20:34] <shizuo16> DJones: Easy for me please
[20:34] <auronandace> !terminal | downbeam
[20:35] <andy4> anyone?
[20:35] <shizuo16> DJones: WHY should i boot up with a live cd ? and i already have ubuntu installed ?
[20:35] <shizuo16> DJones: AND how can i backup
[20:35] <DJones> shizuo16: You can't modify your partition table if the drive is in use, so you need to use an ubuntu livecd or a gparted livecd to boot from before doing the changes
[20:36] <DJones> !backup | shizuo16
[20:36] <Slart> andy4: ubuntu doesn't, by default, mount anything but the system drive on boot.. if having that hard drive connected keeps you from booting it's not that.. perhaps it reorders the hard drives or something else
[20:37] <shizuo16> ubottu: well thanks Mr ubottu
[20:38] <shizuo16> DJones: So i have to reboot with liove cd and install gparted  and modify
[20:38] <ManDay> Which command allows me to install a .deb file?
[20:39] <Slart> ManDay: gdebi might work.. if I remember correctly
[20:39] <auronandace> ManDay: where did you get the deb file from?
[20:39] <shizuo16> !backup | DJones
[20:39] <ManDay> Isn't apt capable of that, or one of its cousins?
[20:39] <ManDay> auronandace: propritary software, teamviewer.com
[20:39] <auronandace> oh
[20:39] <DJones> shizuo16: gparted should be included on the livecd by default
[20:39] <auronandace> ManDay: i think you need to use dpkg
[20:40] <ManDay> auronandace: ill try
[20:40] <DJones> shizuo16: Possibly called "Partition manager"
[20:40] <ManDay> damn, no manpags installed
[20:40] <shizuo16> DJones: Xd UBOTTU IS a real bot i tought he was kidin
[20:40] <ManDay> anyone know the dpkg command by heart to install a .deb?
[20:40] <Slart> ManDay: didn't even find gdebi on my system any more.. so dpkg it is then.. command line only
[20:40] <alkafoo> ManDay: -i
[20:40] <alkafoo> for i-nstall, I dare say
[20:40] <ManDay> thanks!
[20:41] <ManDay> alkafoo: I would never have guessed...
[20:41] <ManDay> :P
[20:41] <shizuo16> DJones: well i have to delet a partition with gparted
[20:41] <alkafoo> pretty easy to find from man dpkg, too
[20:41] <ManDay> alkafoo: Happen to know how I make dpkg automatically resolve deps?
[20:41] <ManDay> (of the deb)
[20:41] <DJones> shizuo16: There should be an option to resize/shrink a partition rather than deleting one
[20:41] <alkafoo> but why are people installing something from a deb?
[20:41] <Kerdni> Hei!
[20:41] <guntbert> how can I access the indicator area (unity) without a mouse?
[20:41] <alkafoo> ManDay: not sure that's dpkg's job
[20:41] <Kerdni> I have tiny problem!
[20:42] <Kerdni> I want join that server:  irc.rizon.net
[20:42] <Kerdni> But I do not know how?
[20:42] <ManDay> oh, great, yet another dependency unresolvable
[20:43] <alkafoo> Kerdni: hit CTRL+s
[20:43] <ManDay> What the hell does that even mean:
[20:43] <jutnux> Kerdni: This is not a place for IRC support
[20:43] <robbit10> Just switched over to Kubuntu but made the mistake of doing an apt-get autoremove inbetween the removal of ubuntu-desktop and installation of kubuntu-desktop.. now the authentication part is broken. What package do I need to install to fix it? kdesu?
[20:43] <alkafoo> Kerdni: look for it on the list on the left, if it isn't there make a new entry
[20:43] <Slart> Kerdni: depends on what irc-client you're using.. try reading the help file/man page or similar for it
[20:43] <ManDay> "It's required but it's not going to be installed?" Apt-get really is a pain in the arse
[20:43] <alkafoo> jutnux: and your next message is going to explain to him how to join the right channel? =P
[20:43] <Slart> ManDay: apt usually has a reson for doing that.. perhaps not a good reason but still a reason
[20:44] <shizuo16> DJones: didn't really understand
[20:44] <ManDay> Slart: apt-get doesn't tell me its reasons though
[20:44] <ManDay> It just says "cant"
[20:44] <ManDay> thats why I hate it.
[20:44] <DJones> shizuo16: I've got to go away from the computer, good luck getting your dual boot system working, if you have problems, ask generally in the channel, I'm sure people will be able to help you
[20:44] <hateb> ubuntu 12.4 will require new install or upgrade from previous version gone be possible ?
[20:44] <Slart> ManDay: nope.. it's usually very vague.. but digging around in the dependencies usually reveal something.. something that doesn't work out or similar
[20:45] <alkafoo> hateb: theoretically from upgrade
[20:45] <shizuo16> DJones: all right thanks mr DJones
[20:45] <jutnux> alkafoo: No, it isn't.
[20:45] <alkafoo> jutnux: no what isn't?
[20:45] <robbit10> Just switched over to Kubuntu but made the mistake of doing an apt-get autoremove inbetween the removal of ubuntu-desktop and installation of kubuntu-desktop.. now the authentication part is broken. What package do I need to install to fix it? kdesu?
[20:45] <shizuo16> DJones: only last thing i have to resize partition then deleted with ntfs
[20:45] <shizuo16> DJones: right ? ..
[20:45] <alkafoo> robbit10: what's the error you get?
[20:46] <trism> ManDay: apt-get -o=Debug:pkgProblemResolver=yes install foo; gives a bit more info and can sometimes be useful
[20:46] <DJones> shizuo16: resize partition, then format the empty space as NTFS for windows
[20:46] <van> moving coursor around screen takes cpu usage up to 100%. is it normal? lubuntu, installed yesterday, cpu 1,7ghz pentium 4.
[20:46] <shizuo16> DJones: ALL right ty again ^_^
[20:46] <ManDay> My freaking goodness, what the hell is "teamviewer6"
[20:46] <alkafoo> shizuo16: if you're going to install Windows, you don't necessarily have to format it just make the space and Windows' installer will be able to format it
[20:47] <ManDay> It is a windows executable?!
[20:47] <ManDay> Including wine!?
[20:47] <alkafoo> ManDay: =)
[20:47] <robbit10> alkafoo: Something along the lines of "Not authenticated"
[20:47] <ManDay> I thought there was a teamviewer linux version?!
[20:47] <auronandace> ManDay:  that is the linux version
[20:47] <trism> ManDay: sorry forgot a colon, Debug::pkgProblemResolver
[20:47] <ManDay> sick, its just sick. it disgusts me...
[20:47] <alkafoo> robbit10: from what command?
[20:47] <auronandace> ManDay: it uses its own version of wine
[20:47] <guntbert> !enter | ManDay
[20:47] <alkafoo> auronandace: and sometimes it even works =)
[20:48] <auronandace> ManDay: i agree, it is awful
[20:48] <robbit10> alkafoo: For example, the Additional Drivers application.
[20:48] <alkafoo> although I've never actually had any problems with it if you install wine
[20:48] <zhownx> hello... I want to use wget to download files recursively... say that http://foo.bar/abc1.html and I want to download all files from abc1.html to abc30.html... any idea?
[20:48] <robbit10> alkafoo: but other applications as well, hold on, let me check
[20:48] <psycko> yo
[20:48] <robbit10> alkafoo: The firefox installer
[20:48] <RandLAT> Banging my head against the wall setting up "java" in Ubuntu 11.10, or more precisely openjdk-6-jdk and maven2. What are the correct JAVA_HOME and M2_HOME?
[20:48] <alkafoo> zhownx: curl 'http://foo.bar/abc[1..30].html' -o 'abc#1.html'
[20:49] <bullgard6> [Ubuntu 11.10, GNOME Shell 3.2.1] How can I determine if Gwibber is running or not?
[20:49] <guntbert> zhownx: this is not really an ubuntu problem, is it - and you might want to read      man wget...
[20:49] <shizuo16> alkafoo: sorry was reading in the web site
[20:49] <Rod_> Gnome masked as Unity = pain
[20:49] <Rod_> How dare the Canonical Team make this available...it's HORRIBLEEEE!
[20:49] <alkafoo> psycko: yo
[20:49] <alkafoo> bullgard6: pgrep -l wibb
[20:49] <zhownx> alkafoo, thanks.. I'll try it... =)
[20:49] <shizuo16> alkafoo: thanks for info
[20:50] <alkafoo> Rod_: most distros customize GNOME, and have for some time
[20:50] <auronandace> Rod_: don't use it then
[20:50] <zhownx> guntbert, sry... I'm just newbie, and try so far with wget, and someone give me solutions with curl
[20:50] <robbit10> alkafoo: Additional Drivers and the firefox installer.
[20:50] <guntbert> zhownx: :)
[20:51] <Rod_> @alkafoo Exactly, but to bring it together with Unity is not customizing..it's called D E S T R O Y something  good and turning it into something HORRIBLEEEARGH >.<
[20:51] <malkuth> I am attempting to install the 11.10 version of ubuntu, and am having a problem with the display.
[20:51] <young> Is it possible on 11.10 to move the unity side bar, and make it a bottom bar
[20:51] <zhownx> guntbert, I have no curl installed... do you have any idea with wget?
[20:51] <zhownx> guntbert, or just curl can do it..? :D
[20:51] <bullgard6> alkafoo: '~$ pgrep -l wibb; 2319 gwibber-service; 2378 gwibber-service; 2379 gwibber-service'. This means that Gwibber is running. Right?
[20:52] <alkafoo> bullgard6: I'd say so
[20:52] <Rod_> A taskbar that does not move = windows 95's epic error. thanks canonical for bringing it back one more time ¬¬
[20:52] <alkafoo> bullgard6: though it doesn't guarantee it's performing properly
[20:52] <northernen> Is there a way for tee to direct stdout to one file, and stderr to another?
[20:52] <bullgard6> alkafoo: Thank you.
[20:52] <auronandace> young: possible yes, advisable no, it will break things
[20:52] <alkafoo> Rod_: what you don't like about Unity you probably really don't like about GNOME _3_
[20:53] <Kerdni> I tryed to add rizon.
[20:53] <young> auronandace thank you, was just curious
[20:53] <Rod_> alkafoo Speak it OUT I didn't get it.
[20:53] <Kerdni> But every time I add server there is balnk after i click close.
[20:53] <malkuth> Is there a configuration file for lightdm to select display mode?
[20:54] <guntbert> zhownx: wget will do fine,     wget -r   URL       (for recursive) but you really should look into the manpage   - thats why I said 'man wget'
[20:54] <alkafoo> Rod_: what you don't like about Unity is in reality almost certainly stuff you don't like about the new version of GNOME, version 3
[20:54] <alkafoo> Rod_: so to complain only about Unity and not about GNOME is not particularly useful
[20:54] <alkafoo> zhownx: sudo apt-get install curl, done
[20:54] <robbit10> alkafoo: It goes wrong when something called qapt-batch is executed
[20:55] <robbit10> alkafoo: It gives the error "This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided"
[20:55] <alkafoo> robbit10: ok, hold please
[20:55] <Rod_> alkafoo Nah man it's not that...I used to use Ubuntu 9/10.xx Interface and I love the GNOME way. Also, what I don't like is the KDE way, that's for sure.
[20:56] <Rod_> kde = too much make-up-based-UI
[20:56] <tessarakt2> I don't like the bullshit way
[20:56] <tessarakt2> all this desktop bloatware
[20:56] <tessarakt2> network managers storing their settings in an SQL database via a config daemon
[20:56] <LjL> Rod_, alkafoo, tessarakt2: please tae the non-support talk to #Ubuntu-offtopic
[20:56] <alkafoo> Rod_: I'm afraid it is that, those version of Ubuntu used an older version of GNOME, 2 not 3
[20:57] <bullgard6> !language | tessarakt2
[20:57] <Rod_> LjL how dare you talk like that? UNITY HAS TO DO WITH UBUNTU, so this is not off-topic...
[20:57] <robbit10> alkafoo: I found a thread that might have the solution: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3119488.0 -- brb, logging out and in.
[20:57] <hexacode> hey you guys. how do i use --print-uris  in apt-get ?  i want to check the md5 of certain packages
[20:58] <hexacode> i tried apt-get install --print-uris apache
[20:58] <LjL> Rod_: this channel is strictly about Ubuntu *technical support*, not anything that "has to do with Ubuntu"
[20:58] <LjL> Rod_: so please calm down and either continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic, or don't
[20:58] <alkafoo> --print-uris is the right param
[20:58] <robbit10> alkafoo: Yup! That solved the problem :)
[20:58] <alkafoo> robbit10: what did?
[20:58] <hexacode> alkafoo:  but what if i dont want to install. i just threw install in there to get the command to work
[20:59] <robbit10> alkafoo: It's a dependency problem in hte kubuntu-desktop package. The package "polkit-kde-1" should be installed, but it's not.
[20:59] <hexacode> i just want to check the md5's of the packages at the specified uri
[20:59] <mongy> Rod_, try xfce then. (xubuntu)
[20:59] <alkafoo> hexacode: it doesn't work without 'install'?  Hopefully it will block 'install' from actually installing, then, that's what the man page suggests
[20:59] <LjL> Rod_: ok, i see you aren't listening. see you in #ubuntu-ops if you want to discuss your ban
[21:00] <alkafoo> robbit10: ah, okay good to know
[21:00] <hexacode> alkafoo: thanks
[21:00] <hexacode> ill try
[21:00] <LjL> eek
[21:01] <alkafoo> hexacode: should ask you for confirmation even if it does try to install
[21:02] <malkuth> Am I actually posting here?
[21:02] <LjL> malkuth: yes
[21:02] <alkafoo> malkuth: good question
[21:02] <grip> I love watching noob questions scroll by in a swift manner.
[21:02] <grip> <3
[21:03] <hexacode> thanks alkafoo  lol i thought it was gonna download it lol but it showed me what i needed. thanks
[21:03] <LjL> grip: which is made swifter by irrelevant commentary... :|
[21:03] <grip> exactly
[21:03] <grip> it's wonderful
[21:03] <malkuth> Basically, when lightdm attempts to start up, it flashes the screen and eventually presents the login prompt. When I log in, it flashes the screen a few more times and presents the login prompt again.
[21:04] <guntbert> !noob > grip
[21:04] <malkuth> I can go into a tty (ctl/alt/f1) and get a cli window so I could make changes, if I knew what changes to make.
[21:04] <grip> LOL NICE BOT
[21:04] <robbit10> malkuth: I had that 30 minutes ago, after an install of Kubuntu. What did you remove/install?
[21:05] <alkafoo> malkuth: try choosing the failsafe graphical boot option from the login screen
[21:05] <LjL> !caps > grip
[21:05] <malkuth> This is a new install.
[21:05] <grip> lmfao
[21:05] <grip> these bots
[21:05] <grip> so good
[21:05] <robbit10> malkuth: of Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[21:05] <LjL> grip: please keep this channel about Ubuntu support *only*.
[21:05] <malkuth> Ubuntu 11.10
[21:05] <grip> if jesus made irc bots, they would be the exact likeness of ubotu
[21:05] <grip> ok
[21:05] <grip> help
[21:06] <malkuth> I had to use the alternate install, as live cd and webu would not work.
[21:06] <fil_> hello .. is this the right place to ask some questions about the 'at' scheduler ?
[21:06] <grip> my programs arent working help
[21:06] <malkuth> (same problem)
[21:06] <alkafoo> fil_: there are worse places
[21:06] <carbon_> does anyone know if clonezilla will clone easily an image to different sized hard drive.?
[21:06] <grip> help help my programs arent working, woe is me
[21:06] <robbit10> malkuth: It's probably an error in the configuration for LightDM. Other than that, i can't help you further. Sorry. Ask the others in this chat.
[21:06] <alkafoo> carbon_: #clonezilla might know
[21:06] <alkafoo> grip: ?
[21:07] <grip> yes hello
[21:07] <carbon_> yeah good call
[21:07] <LjL> grip: if you want to be at least a little bit serious with your trolling, then ask a specific question.
[21:07] <grip> ugh
[21:07] <grip> i really dont
[21:07] <grip> its just that you guys get so serious and tight
[21:07] <fil_> does anyone hava an idea on why the scheduler 'at', though it accepts the command to be run and the time, the command is not run as scheduled?
[21:08] <fil_> also, the name 'at' makes it quite difficult to really check the web
[21:08] <archcub> I'm going to be installing Ubuntu on my desktop that's primarily going to be functioning as a server(LAMP, uPNP, file/print, etc), but I also will be using it to play media(both videos and music). It's an old system and want to be able to run Blackbox as my WM. Would it be easier to user Server Edition and install X and Blackbox or Desktop and put all the server stuff on there?
[21:09] <alkafoo> fil_: only because search engines suck =)
[21:09] <alkafoo> fil_: what command did you run?
[21:11] <fil_> first command : at 23:15 , i press enter, it shows at> , i write vlc , enter, control+D, everything ok... then i type atq and the job is listed as : 10	Fri Jan 20 23:04:00 2012 a fil ...but it never starts
[21:12] <thechef> Hmm
[21:12] <guntbert> fil_: have a look at http://aplawrence.com/Unixart/cron.html
[21:12] <alkafoo> fil_: 23:04 is before 23:15, isn't it?
[21:13] <alkafoo> oh reversed =P
[21:13] <alkafoo> fil_: I usually do echo 'some command' | at 2315
[21:13] <alkafoo> fil_: also for VLC you'd have to specify DISPLAY to get it to work, since it's a GUI app
[21:14] <alkafoo> probably your issue
[21:14] <fil_> alkafoo: wrong copy paste.... the times were correct (thats not english but you get the point)
[21:14] <alkafoo> yeah
[21:14] <alkafoo> DISPLAY=:0 vlc
[21:14] <fil_> alkafoo : i also tried it with scripts commands like 'date'
[21:15] <alkafoo> right, but it just runs the command, it doesn't output to some random terminal you have open
[21:15] <alkafoo> you'd have to tell it to do that
[21:15] <alkafoo> try an audio command
[21:15] <alkafoo> you will hear it happen regardless of where the output is
[21:15] <alkafoo> regardless of whether X is running, etc.
[21:15] <fil_> alkafoo: let me check
[21:15] <malkuth> Note, the system (syslog) reports segfault in metacity and libXi.so.6.0
[21:16] <malkuth> So, am I just out of luck with running 11.10 of Ubuntu?
[21:16] <fil_> alkafoo : sh*t, the display thing worked with vlc... much appreciated... any idea, perhaps, on how to run a script ??
[21:16] <alkafoo> malkuth: unless you can fix it
[21:17] <alkafoo> fil_: sure, if you want to explain just what it is you mean to accomplish
[21:17] <zhownx> alkafoo, guntbert, thanks I got it with wget... wget url/abc{1..10}.txt ... thx =)
[21:18] <guntbert> !yay | zhownx
[21:18] <alkafoo> !yay | ubottu
[21:18] <alkafoo> heh
[21:19] <pedza> i need help
[21:19] <Jimu> Is there a command I can give to determine if I'm currently using Gtk 2.0 or Gtk 3.0?
[21:19] <pedza> im trying to set up a wireless hotspot for my android mode
[21:19] <fil_> alkafoo : i have written a C program that prints on screen data from imdb, it works in a terminal.. i have put it in usr/local/bin so it will be executed as a command.. and in general i would like to run scripts with console output at specific times...
[21:19] <pedza> *phone
[21:19] <pedza> and its not visible to my phone
[21:20] <guntbert> !enter | pedza
[21:20] <pedza> k
[21:22] <alkafoo> Jimu: dpkg -l | grep -i gtk, probably
[21:22] <alkafoo> Jimu: if you're using Unity or GNOME 3, you will definitely have GTK+ v3, AIUI
[21:23] <Jimu> alkafoo: thanks!
[21:24] <pedza> im trying to set up a wireless hotspot for my android phone and when i do its invisible to my android phone.
[21:24] <alkafoo> pedza: using what device?
[21:25] <pedza> samsung galaxy mini
[21:25] <alkafoo> what's the point in giving one phone wifi from another phone?
[21:26] <pedza> i have a wired connection and i want to create a wifi hotspot with my laptop so i can have wifi on the phone
[21:26] <Night-hacks> what's the ls -c  ?
[21:27] <Night-hacks> infact whats status change time ?
[21:27] <alkafoo> Night-hacks: I believe that is explained in man ls, next to -c
[21:28] <Night-hacks> alkafoo: really dont understand what it means !!
[21:28] <jocke-l> Night-hacks: it IS explained in man ls
[21:28] <black-rider> c isn't count?
[21:28] <alkafoo> it's explained in plain English, is what I meant
[21:29] <butti> hi
[21:29] <adrian> hej
[21:29] <Night-hacks> alkafoo: i mean so what's difference with ls -l !
[21:29] <black-rider> it  count the number of repertory no?
[21:29] <Night-hacks> and ls -c ?!
[21:30] <black-rider> (-c)
[21:30] <Guest17231> siema wszystkim
[21:30] <butti> can somobody give me recipie for permission to write on one partition?
[21:30] <butti> sie ma
[21:30] <alkafoo> butti: sudo chown username:username /some/partition/mnt/point
[21:31] <butti> thank you :)
[21:31] <Guest17231> pierwszy raz zainstalowałem ten system i sobie patrze co tu mamy xd
[21:31] <butti> alkafoo: thnx thats it :)
[21:31] <alkafoo> Guest17231: #ubuntu-pl
[21:31] <butti> Guest17231: nie mysle ze cie ktos tu zrozumie poza mna
[21:31] <Pepp-elito> Hi I,m having some problems with resolutions in ubuntu I have a new marantz receiver with hdmi, but nvidia/ubuntu will only let me set 640x480 as max res. anyone who knows how to fix this?
[21:31] <Timmmm> Help! I've run out of disk space and when I tell nautilus to empty the rubbish bin it does nothing.
[21:31] <graft> butti: sudo chown -R
[21:31] <Guest17231> no widze własnie hehe
[21:32] <graft> butti: sudo chown will just change the root directory, you want to change the whole thing presumably
[21:32] <Myrtti> !pl | Guest17231
[21:32] <Timmmm> Even worse, the growl notification thing is saying something, but it isn't aware of multiple monitors so it is off the screen and I can't see what it says!
[21:32] <Timmmm> Argh!
[21:32] <Timmmm> A bug twofer.
[21:32] <butti> graft: i have one patrtition which is my storage partition but i have no permission
[21:32] <graft> Timmmm: can't you just use rm in the shell?
[21:33] <Timmmm> graft: Yeah, but I can't remember where the trash is. The internet says ~/.Trash but that isn't right.
[21:33] <Myrtti> !trash
[21:33] <auk>  sudo chown -R  = Dangerous command when used in a certain directory.
[21:33] <auk> butti: Just so you know.
[21:33] <graft> butti: yeah... so if you want to be able to use some directory, you need to do chown user:group /directory/where/its/mounted
[21:33] <Timmmm> Myrtti: Haha, thanks. The bug is so common that you've made an IRC shortcut.. :-P
[21:34] <graft> butti: but, yeah, don't do that on the root directory or anything
[21:34] <auk> graft: What directories?
[21:34] <auk> o_O
[21:34] <graft> auk: he has some mounted partition he wants to be able to write to
[21:34] <butti> graft: no..that is no root directory. so: chown -R?
[21:34] <auk> I would just write using a root user...
[21:34] <Pepp-elito> Hi I,m having some problems with resolutions in ubuntu I have a new marantz receiver with hdmi, but nvidia/ubuntu will only let me set 640x480 as max res. anyone who knows how to fix this?
[21:35] <auk> That's extremely weird.
[21:35] <graft> auk: maybe he wants to be able to write there as a regular user, that's a perfectly acceptable use case
[21:35] <graft> butti: yeah sudo chown -R etc.
[21:35] <graft> butti: err, to be clear, sudo chown -R user:group /mount/point
[21:35] <alkafoo> sometimes you only need to chown the directory you're going to mount to
[21:36] <fil_> alkafoo: any ideas on what i want?? or perhaps a link somewhere??
[21:36] <auk> graft: Not exactly, on the condition it's an operating system directory (external os assuming it's unixish),
[21:36] <alkafoo> fil_: must've missed it can you resend?
[21:36] <auk> Hmm, I just know theres a better safer way to do ths. Lol/
[21:36] <pedza> alkafoo
[21:36] <pedza> any idea for the hotspot thing?
[21:36] <butti> graft: thank you!
[21:37] <graft> auk: well, if there's no permissions in that filesystem it shouldn't matter anyway
[21:37] <fil_>  alkafoo : i have written a C program that prints on screen data from imdb, it works in a terminal.. i have put it in usr/local/bin so it will be executed as a command.. and in general i would like to run scripts with console output at specific times...
[21:37] <v2> how can i remove "-r" file with rm command please ?
[21:37] <auk> graft: On that condition, yes.
[21:37] <Timmmm> Ok, well I found where all my disk space went. The following file is 62 GB! Wtf?! /lib/modules/3.0.0-15-generic/modules.ccwmap
[21:37] <theadmin> v2: rm ./-r
[21:37] <graft> fil_: you're familiar with cron, right?
[21:38] <v2> theadmin: ty
[21:38] <urlin2u> fil_, where were you when I took the 7 film classes, and used IMDB alot, lol.
[21:38] <auk> The reason I prefer to just write as root is because... I will not need to worry about permissions and such, knowing that "Writing as another user does not change ownership OR permissions".
[21:38] <melvster> what the ... i just updated my system and ive lost half of my workspaces and my screen resolution is broke :(
[21:38] <alkafoo> fil_: which specific times?
[21:38] <fil_> graft: 'at' is better suiterd for what i need...
[21:38] <alkafoo> fil_: you using libaosd or something?
[21:39] <graft> fil_: okay, so use at
[21:39] <fil_> urlin2u: lol...
[21:40] <fil_> alkafoo: by specific times i mean when the user wants.. the display and vlc advice was perfect.. but for a console command/app ??
[21:40] <melvster> some kind of unity update?
[21:40] <alkafoo> fil_: where is the output meant to show?
[21:40] <fil_> alkafoo: in a terminal
[21:40] <meerkats> in ubuntu GNOME GUI, not classical, I cannot turn off the machine, there is no "shut down" option, just a "log out". This "log out" effectively shuts the laptop. However, next time I turn it on, I will only get a black screen. I must then reboot the machine to be able to log in again
[21:41] <alkafoo> fil_: maybe tail -n 1 -f a log file?
[21:41] <meerkats> plus, in GNOME classical, the bottom bar wont list the programs I use, thus, changing from one app to other is impossible
[21:42] <alkafoo> fil_: why in a terminal, that seems less useful
[21:42] <MadHaTTrr> How would one upgrade GRUB from 1.98 to 1.99?
[21:43] <MadHaTTrr> and aptitude is broken
[21:43] <jocke-l> alkafoo: the terminal us unix strongest tool
[21:43] <rich> i want to buy a tablet, but first i was wondering can ubuntu run on a tablet.
[21:43] <fil_> alkafoo: sorry, but what u just wrote made no sense to me ... as for the terminal, well, because i have scripts which need to be run with user input at times
[21:44] <alecbrooks> MadHaTTrr: Is apt-get working?
[21:44] <fil_> alkafoo: for the gui apps, i suppose display works for most of them... (i am checking now)
[21:44] <MadHaTTrr> no
[21:45] <bluenemo_> do i have to use the alternate cd to automize installation via preseeding?
[21:45] <urlin2u> rich, you might want to find tablets and check ubuntu capability is ease, but yes ubuntu can.
[21:45] <urlin2u> is=in*
[21:45] <alkafoo> fil_: okay, well you'd either have to run the command from an open terminal, or I suppose you could have an at job that will _open_ a terminal _and_ run a specific command
[21:46] <Timmmm> Dammit, Ubuntu is being full-of-bugs today. So modules.ccwmap is meant to be a one-line text file, but had somehow grown to 62GB. I deleted it, and now du / says I have plenty of space, but df -h still says I have 0 bytes free. W. T. F.
[21:46] <alkafoo> jocke-l: not for viewing metadata while you watch video it isn't
[21:46] <alkafoo> otherwise I agree
[21:47] <guidol> is it me, or are the update/upgrade servers down?
[21:47] <rich> urlin2u_ so you can actually interact with it by touching the screen, you wouldnt need a keyboard or mouse
[21:47] <alecbrooks> MadHaTTrr: The easiest solution is probably to fix apt-get, then update GRUB.
[21:47] <fil_> alkafoo: so, if i got this right, you suggest to schedule a script which opens a terminal and runs the command i want
[21:47] <alecbrooks> MadHaTTrr: Or is there some reason that would be especially difficult?
[21:47] <jocke-l> alkafoo: what kind of metadata
[21:48] <graft> Timmmm: if there's open file descriptors df won't report correctly...
[21:49] <graft> dang, just missed him
[21:49] <crazybyte> hi! tonight I updated a server that has ubuntu 11.10 (server edition) installed on it. all the storage is on lvm. for some reason (until now unknown for me) i cannot boot it any more. it complains that one of the lvm volumes that contains the mai system is degraded and cnnot be booted, but when i boot from a sysresc cd everything seems find (all the lvm volumes are active and functioning and all the fs (ext4) are fine). can somebo
[21:49] <crazybyte> dy be so kind to help me figure this out because i'm fresh out of ideas.
[21:49] <plouffe> rich, this guy seems to be doing it http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&v=MErL7FslBjU
[21:49] <alkafoo> fil_: that's one option
[21:49] <alkafoo> fil_: maybe if you said a little more about what you're doing we could come up with something better
[21:50] <plouffe> rich, at about 3:00
[21:52] <plouffe> rich, or check this (no mouse or keyboard) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEhetGMWVdI
[21:53] <enikm4> how do i get my wireless card to work?
[21:53] <enikm4> i can see it if i use lspci
[21:54] <mrdeb> hi all
[21:54] <enikm4> Intel Corporation Pro/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2]
[21:54] <mrdeb> we notice ubuntu 1110 is much slower  on netbook pc tahn ubuntu 1104
[21:54] <mrdeb> 1004
[21:54] <mrdeb> y
[21:54] <Phun5tar> apt-get isn't the only thing broken, but I need GRUB to work properly first so I can use an ext HDD to fix the rest
[21:54] <Pepp-elito> Hi I,m having some problems with resolutions in ubuntu I have a new marantz receiver with hdmi, but nvidia/ubuntu will only let me set 640x480 as max res. anyone who knows how to fix this? e.g how to add resolutions in xorg.conf, i have trieed but they wont show...
[21:54] <urlin2u> mrdeb, not here.
[21:55] <mobal> hy
[21:55] <enikm4> Pepp-elito, you have your graphic driver installed and configured properly?
[21:55] <Phun5tar> and by "broken", I mean it's useless because that partition is unable to access the network
[21:56] <Pepp-elito> yes ubuntu 11.10 with nvidia 280.??
[21:56] <enikm4> Phun5tar, i don't understand what grub has to do with mounting an external HDD
[21:56] <RandLAT> Banging my head against the wall setting up "java" in Ubuntu 11.10, or more precisely openjdk-6-jdk and maven2. What are the correct JAVA_HOME and M2_HOME?
[21:56] <enikm4> Phun5tar, unless you need to boot from that HDD
[21:56] <Phun5tar> when I use my ext HDD, it uses GRUB 1.99
[21:56] <Phun5tar> my internal has 1.98
[21:56] <Phun5tar> and each time I boot to my ext, my linux partition is gone on my internal
[21:57] <enikm4> Phun5tar, so either boot to your external and downgrade your grub
[21:57] <enikm4> Phun5tar, or do the opposite and upgrade your internals grub
[21:57] <Phun5tar> ^^
[21:57] <Phun5tar> that's my question
[21:57] <urlin2u> Phun5tar, have you run update-grub on the external OS?
[21:57] <alecbrooks> Phun5tar: You could try using a livecd to update GRUB.
[21:57] <Pepp-elito> enikm4, yes ubuntu 11.10 with nvidia 280.?? and nvidia settings but no option for resolution over 640x480
[21:57] <rich> plouffe_ thanks
[21:57] <Phun5tar> update-grub does not fix the problem
[21:58] <Phun5tar> I could use a LiveCD, but I don't want to waste another CD as I'd have to redownload/burn
[21:58] <urlin2u> Phun5tar, so how are you booting the external?
[21:58] <Phun5tar> I'm in a situation where I don't have spare CD's
[21:58] <alecbrooks> Phun5tar: What about booting from a flashdrive?
[21:58] <Phun5tar> plug it in, poweron
[21:58] <enikm4> Phun5tar, can i ask why you have 2 separate boot partitions?
[21:59] <urlin2u> Phun5tar, please tab nics so we know who your answering,
[22:00] <Phun5tar> I used to be able to boot to Windows/Ubuntu 10.04, or 11.10 if I have my ext plugged in during boot-time
[22:00] <ISK> Hi all
[22:01] <meerkats> since my upgrade to 11.04 libreoffice icons are gone, how do I get them back?
[22:01] <zhownx> hi all, I got problem with gwibber... it cant write new message... any clue?
[22:01] <urlin2u> Phun5tar, it sounds like just some basic understanding of grub 2 is needed here, you can use the external to boot the other if set up correctly, if you run te bootscript with the external plugged in we can see whats up, pastebin the results.txt. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[22:02] <antoniu> Anyone here know how to upload to a ppa, I'm having trouble with iy
[22:02] <antoniu> *it
[22:02] <enikm4> Pepp-elito, its been a while since I've had to configure a nvidia device but it seems like from my memory you have to do 2 separate configs
[22:02] <urlin2u> meerkats, gone from where?
[22:03] <jeagle> I think I am going to turn around 360 degrees and walk away from my computer. brb ;)
[22:03] <enikm4> jeagle, bad troll
[22:03] <jeagle> lol
[22:03] <jeagle> I know. :(
[22:03] <urlin2u> jeagle, don't spin to fast you will get dizzy.
[22:04] <meerkats> urlin2u, from my menus
[22:04] <jeagle> That is definitely something easy for me to do. :3
[22:04] <urlin2u> meerkats, this unity or gnome 3?
[22:04] <meerkats> urlin2u, In fallback, or GNOME classic, I dont se them anymore
[22:04] <jeagle> Does anyone in here know Aikar? :3
[22:04] <meerkats> whatever GNOME classical is...
[22:05] <meerkats> gnome 3 I guess
[22:07] <urlin2u> meerkats, I think you have gnome classic not gnome 3 they are not the same gnome 3 is not run in natty, without a hack.
[22:08] <phoenix_firebrd> any security expert here?
[22:08] <Phun5tar> what kind?
[22:08] <urlin2u> !ask > phoenix_firebrd
[22:08] <meerkats> How do I know for sure? I thought it would automatically upgrade to GNOME3 after the upgrade to 11.10
[22:08] <guntbert> phoenix_firebrd: you could try  in ##security
[22:09] <urlin2u> meerkats, this is gnome 3 it has to be installed to run in 11.10. http://www.gnome.org/gnome-3/
[22:10] <pepp-elito> Hi, I'm having problems with resolutions in ubuntu 11.10.I can only select max 640X480 in nvidia-settings (280, have tried x-swat aswell). How can i force a resolution to appear in nvdia-settings. Have tried get-edid and xrandr without success. Have tried xorg.conf also ut im not sure how it should be done... Anyone who can help med to get a proper resulotion availible in nvidia-settings?
[22:10] <urlin2u> meerkats, as of now the unity desktop is the default in natty and oneiric and precise.
[22:10] <amk12> hi
[22:11] <meerkats> urlin2u, I have gnome3 in my machine, I recognize that layout, but it gives me problems, If I "Suspend" from gnome3, next time I turn it on, it will only show a black screen, and I must reboot the system
[22:12] <meerkats> urlin2u, unity is that ine with the bar that appears to the left of the screen, right?
[22:12] <phoenix_firebrd> urlin2u: one of the lines in my wifi router log says "[DoS attack: STORM] attack packets in last 20 sec from ip [<IP_ADDRESS>]" is my system used for a ddos attack without my knowledge?
[22:12] <amk12> i have ubuntu 10.04...
[22:12] <urlin2u> meerkats, hmm what is your ram amount and how  much swap do you have?
[22:12] <cartoonbarsmars> is there a general linux channel, i use ubuntu on desktop and want to hear the opion of android by ubuntu/linux users
[22:12] <meerkats> urlin2u, and I have problems with the names: in my machine I dont see unity or gnome3, I see gnome, gnomeclassical, ubuntu, ubuntu2d, and custom AFAIR
[22:12] <Phun5tar> I like android
[22:13] <urlin2u> phoenix_firebrd, I have no security experience per-say
[22:13] <phoenix_firebrd> urlin2u: ok
[22:13] <guntbert> cartoonbarsmars: #linux
[22:13] <urlin2u> meerkats, ubuntu and ubuntu 2 are the unity desktop.
[22:13] <meerkats> urlin2u, I can have up to 5.6 GiB swap, but I've never needed that much, Iǘe never had problems with that. Now I have about 50 Mib swap
[22:13] <meerkats> ram = 2 GiB
[22:14] <urlin2u> meerkats, make the swap equal to your ram and see if the black screen persists.
[22:14] <cartoonbarsmars> until ubuntu is designed for tablets, is android a proper alternative? meaning will it have all the accompanying free software like open/libre office, etc.?
[22:14] <urlin2u> cartoonbarsmars, android is not supported here.
[22:14] <meerkats> urlin2u, afraid I cant. I only have 500 MiB free space. Increasing swap to 2 GiB would mean Im 1.5 GiB short, aint I right?
[22:15] <Phun5tar> it's not as fully loaded as Ubuntu, as it's geared for phones
[22:15] <urlin2u> cartoonbarsmars, there is a #android channel though.
[22:15] <Phun5tar> I haven't played with ICS yet, though
[22:16] <urlin2u> meerkats, when you say free space you mean the hd is full except for  500 MiB?
[22:16] <Phun5tar> cartoonbarsmars: check out the Android market if you're curious about software that you'd want
[22:16] <meerkats> urlin2u, yes
[22:16] <urlin2u> meerkats, bad idea having it that full.
[22:16] <GomoX> Hey
[22:16] <FredN> What language is going to be used in the Ubuntu Phone and Tablet?
[22:17] <GomoX> I'm runnign 11.04 and my "monitors" app isn't showing up on the unity search box
[22:17] <GomoX> I can't change the resolution
[22:17] <GomoX> Do you know how to start it from a shell?
[22:17] <meerkats> urlin2u, not what I planned, I was waiting to get a 1 TiB external HD for like 100 euros, but then those floods in thailend fukked it all up...
[22:17] <urlin2u> GomoX, tery display
[22:17] <urlin2u> try
[22:17] <GomoX> I tried display, monitor, screen
[22:17] <GomoX> resolution
[22:18] <GomoX> A google search shows it should be called "monitors"
[22:18] <GomoX> It's missing somehow
[22:18] <GomoX> What's the name of the command?
[22:19] <urlin2u> meerkats, please don't swear this is a world wide family friendly channel, so the black screen may be fixed with the proper swap per ram, the icon problem I'm not sure really.
[22:19] <Humbedooh> xrandr ?
[22:19] <GomoX> This question is suprisingly hard to google for.
[22:19] <pepp-elito> Hi, I'm having problems with resolutions in ubuntu 11.10.I can only select max 640X480 in nvidia-settings (280, have tried x-swat aswell). How can i force a resolution to appear in nvdia-settings. Have tried get-edid and xrandr without success. Have tried xorg.conf also ut im not sure how it should be done... Anyone who can help med to get a proper resulotion availible in nvidia-settings?
[22:19] <carbon_> how does the ubuntu vpn client know what port to use ?
[22:20] <urlin2u> GomoX, you missing any other icons for other known installed apps.
[22:20] <mithrop> there is somebody who deploys Redmine on Heroku servers ?
[22:20] <GomoX> I haven't noticed anything in particular
[22:20] <GomoX> Just this
[22:21] <urlin2u> GomoX, you can reset unity to the stock setting this may have the displays show unity --reset
[22:21] <fil_> alkafoo: are you still here?
[22:22] <GomoX> Didn't work
[22:22] <carbon_> client.conf.   Guess I knew already.  where can I see where the connection fails.  In my log files obviously. Other then messages log is there anywhere else that will give more detail
[22:22] <GomoX> Can you tell me the name of the binary from your matchine?
[22:23] <GomoX> Just start it and then grab it from "ps"
[22:23] <meerkats> being in unity, is there any way I can import the menus as I have them in gnome?
[22:24] <urlin2u> meerkats, you can use a usb thumb for swap though, if you have one laying around.
[22:25] <papa> hy
[22:25] <urlin2u> meerkats, menus transfer not really.
[22:25] <pepp-elito> i, I'm having problems with resolutions in ubuntu 11.10.I can only select max 640X480 in nvidia-settings (280, have tried x-swat aswell). How can i force a resolution to appear in nvdia-settings. Have tried get-edid and xrandr without success. Have tried xorg.conf also ut im not sure how it should be done... Anyone who can help med to get a proper resulotion availible in nvidia-settings? I'm using hdmi to a marantz av, i guess ubu
[22:25] <meerkats> urlin2u, USB for adding swap memory??
[22:25] <urlin2u> meerkats, yeah I do it at times.
[22:26] <meerkats> can I say crap, or would it be too unfamiliar and offensive?
[22:26] <papa> beszél valaki magyarul?
[22:27] <guntbert> !hu | papa
[22:27] <urlin2u> meerkats, use your own thought here the channel has links in the channel topic on these issues.
[22:27] <carbon_> i'm offended.  I prefer the word  excrement!
[22:27] <papa> ok,thx
[22:27] <meerkats> lol
[22:28] <carbon_> :)
[22:28] <urlin2u> !topic > carbon_
[22:28] <meerkats> can I make the icons in unity smaller or bigger?
[22:29] <urlin2u> meerkats, you can install the compizconfig setting manager and in the unity plugin in shrink the left panel.
[22:29] <pepp-elito> i, I'm having problems with resolutions in ubuntu 11.10.I can only select max 640X480 in nvidia-settings (280, have tried x-swat aswell). How can i force a resolution to appear in nvdia-settings. Have tried get-edid and xrandr without success. Have tried xorg.conf also ut im not sure how it should be done... Anyone who can help med to get a proper resulotion availible in nvidia-settings? Must i reset the xserver in someway to make
[22:29] <urlin2u> !repeat > pepp-elito
[22:29] <GomoX> The app is gnome-control-panel
[22:29] <GomoX> I seem to be missing that package
[22:30] <meerkats> urlin2u, do most ubuntu users use, or have you seen a trend in that direction, to use unity instead of gnome?
[22:30] <urlin2u> GomoX, gnome-control-panel also called advanced setitngs you have to install it
[22:30] <guntbert> !ot | meerkats
[22:31] <GomoX> I get "broken packages" when trying to grab it
[22:31] <urlin2u> meerkats,  don't know honestly, some complain about unity, no real data that I know of.
[22:31] <JosephHarrietha> Hello, I've been trying to allow myself to run an program without sudo, I've tried using the visudo file and inputing the line "username ALL = (root) NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/program" where username is my username and program is the program, yet I still have sudo asking me for a password.
[22:32] <JosephHarrietha> Could anyone tell me why?
[22:32] <urlin2u> JosephHarrietha, running without a password is generally not suggested.
[22:32] <JosephHarrietha> Its one program. I know what Im doing. Trust me.
[22:33] <urlin2u> JosephHarrietha, are you sure you need to and if you do if making your set up no password the answer.
[22:33] <urlin2u> JosephHarrietha, yeah right lol.
[22:33] <urlin2u> :D
[22:33] <guntbert> JosephHarrietha: then do it, if you know what you are doing, but don't come asking for support
[22:33] <JosephHarrietha> making one program able to run via sudo without a password is the right choice in this circumstance.
[22:33] <meerkats> in unity, dash home, search, I look for "terminal" but only "xterminal" appears, what is the correct name for the common ubuntu terminal?
[22:34] <JosephHarrietha> I know what I'm doing with regards to security guntbert. Don't come to a support channel if your not willing to follow the rules and not be rude.
[22:34] <urlin2u> JosephHarrietha, a biot calling the kettle black eh.
[22:34] <urlin2u> bit
[22:35] <JosephHarrietha> urlin2u, Now, in this circumstance, making sudo run this single program with no password is my only viable option. All I'm asking for is to tell me what I did wrong. I've verified it against the man pages, it seems as though I did it right, but it refuses to work.
[22:36] <scarleo> Hi, has anyone seen if it's possible to run bitcasa client in Wine?
[22:36] <JosephHarrietha> urlin2u, I am the only sudo user on this system, it is encrypted via 256 aes. My account has a strong password. I am absolutely sure that this is the right option, can you help me?
[22:37] <urlin2u> meerkats, crtl-alt-t should bring up a a terminal if not you can set it to in the compizconfig manager
[22:37] <DelphiWorld> hello
[22:38] <DelphiWorld> i wanna ask for some help
[22:38] <DelphiWorld> please if someone want to help me, pm me
[22:38] <JosephHarrietha> !ask | delphiworld
[22:38] <DelphiWorld> op's, sory for that:
[22:38] <DelphiWorld> JosephHarrietha: :)
[22:38] <DelphiWorld> cause i can not read this channel
[22:38] <DelphiWorld> is a auto route of traffic
[22:38] <DelphiWorld> and tts is not well switable for that:D
[22:38] <urlin2u> JosephHarrietha, the password is for external protection as well, I just doubt you will get help here especially without actually identifying your goal by name the app, just saying, you might try ##linux
[22:39] <JosephHarrietha> urlin2u, It is a script I wrote. Not a special program, just a bash script to mount a truecrypt volume.
[22:39] <DelphiWorld> so:*
[22:39] <DelphiWorld> if someone used vdr, please would you mind helping me fixing mine ?
[22:39] <DelphiWorld> is not playing tv / radio out for me
[22:39] <DelphiWorld> and sory for asking for pm did to lot of traffic here :(
[22:40] <urlin2u> JosephHarrietha, cool I can't really help other then pass on the channel norms and sugetions of other channels.
[22:40]  * DelphiWorld is blind FBI
[22:40] <urlin2u> suggestions*
[22:40] <JosephHarrietha> urlin2u, Not to be rude, then why did you criticize me without the ability or knowledge to help fix my problem?
[22:41] <pepp-elito> Hi, I'm having problems with resolutions in ubuntu 11.10.I can only select max 640X480 in nvidia-settings (280, have tried x-swat aswell). How can i force a resolution to appear in nvdia-settings. Have tried get-edid and xrandr without success. Have tried xorg.conf also ut im not sure how it should be done... Anyone who can help med to get a proper resulotion availible in nvidia-settings? Must i reset the xserver in someway to mak
[22:41] <urlin2u> JosephHarrietha, you take information as criticism that s a projection, I started with that no password is not suggested you have started any rude behavior.
[22:41] <DelphiWorld> vdr is video disk recorded
[22:41] <DelphiWorld> vdr is video disk recorder
[22:41] <DelphiWorld> to play tv on linux
[22:42] <urlin2u> JosephHarrietha, don't read into others it will serve you well.
[22:42] <RiotingPacifist_> can somebody tell me where /lib64 should point on 11.10 64bit systems
[22:42] <JosephHarrietha> urlin2u, I take implying that I have no clue what I am doing as rude, I also take presumptions as rude. Regardless, have a nice day :)
[22:45] <Aikar> jetole: ?
[22:45] <Aikar> err jetole sorry
[22:45] <DelphiWorld> anyone? vdr less i guess ?
[22:45] <Aikar> tried to complete to someone else
[22:46] <spacebug-> when I finally took time to look up what I thought could helpt someone he/she had left the channel :/
[22:47] <Slart> RiotingPacifist_: it doesn't point anywhere on my machine (64 bit 11.10 ubuntu).. just a normal folder
[22:47] <urlin2u> spacebug-, there are many more here reiterate the situation.
[22:47] <spacebug-> =)
[22:47] <RiotingPacifist_> Slart, oh dear is there much in it or just 1 linker?
[22:47] <Slart> RiotingPacifist_: there's not really a lot in that folder though..
[22:48] <Slart> RiotingPacifist_: I can paste the contents to you in a pm, is that alright?
[22:48] <RiotingPacifist_> slart, yes please
[22:49] <Slart> RiotingPacifist_: done
[22:49] <thechad90000> I'm having some issues using the Gnome 3 shell in Ubuntu. I've used a few online tutorials on how to install it, I followed the same tutorial when I was just testing the system and I got the nice sleek gnome 3 shell but now all I've got is a tar something or other file and I don't know what to do
[22:49] <thechad90000> Can anyone help me out
[22:49] <thechad90000> I've got gnome now but it's just not the new one like I wanted
[22:49] <pepp-elito> i, I'm having problems with resolutions in ubuntu 11.10.I can only select max 640X480 in nvidia-settings (280, have tried x-swat aswell). How can i force a resolution to appear in nvdia-settings. Have tried get-edid and xrandr without success. Have tried xorg.conf also ut im not sure how it should be done... Anyone who can help med to get a proper resulotion availible in nvidia-settings? Must i reset the xserver in someway to make
[22:50] <dies_irae> hei
[22:50] <pepp-elito> <i have really tried everything my newbee-ubuntu brain can think of..
[22:50] <dies_irae> I know I axed this questino a trillion times
[22:51] <bigterd> how can one disable an EIDE channel on a motherboard? freebsd has atacontrol so you can detach channels/attach/reinitialize. wonder what the equivalent is for linux?
[22:52] <dies_irae> during the damn install, what comes after or what exactly does it do the stage where it goes 'Configuring Hardware'. Someone gots to know this, is not like NOBODY ever installed ubuntu succesfully.
[22:52] <dies_irae> sheesh
[22:53] <urlin2u> dies_irae, so whats the goal here in actuality?
[22:54] <dies_irae> urlin2u: are u interrogating me why I have problemos installing ubuntu??
[22:54] <dies_irae> 11.10 by the way
[22:55] <urlin2u> dies_irae, lol no just trying to get to the jist of what you need.
[22:55] <dies_irae> urlin2u: the darnest goal here is to do a succesful ubuntu install. I hope dats ok with u.
[22:55] <Rioting_Pacifist> Why would i be unable to chroot even if /bin/bash exists in my chroot (e.g /mnt/install/bin/bash is there but when i sudo chroot /mnt/install i get the error "chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory"
[22:55] <ratcheer> Today, my system stopped automounting USB removable drives. I think it may be related to the 3.0.0-15 kernel upgrade. I tried to edit /apps/nautilus/preferences with gconf-editor, but the option for media_automount_open does not even show up.
[22:55] <urlin2u> dies_irae, not for you this channel suggests a friendly interaction can you do that.
[22:55] <dies_irae> everything seems to be installed even grub folder and all, the installer crashes right at 'Configuring Hardware'
[22:56] <Slart> dies_irae: wow.. classy attitude there.. I was actually thinking of doing an install in a vm just to see what comes after the hardware part.. I'm not so sure I want to any more
[22:57] <dies_irae> Slart: wow, that would actually be really helpful, cuz it would determine whether my flash drive still bootable into the installation.
[22:57] <dies_irae> Slart: bear in mind it's been like two weeks trying to find out about this.
[22:58] <maxhr> I had kubuntu installed, then installed Mandriva, which didn't make a boot menu option for Kubuntu, so I tried adding it manually, but when it loads, keyboard and mouse don't work, any fix for this?
[22:58] <maxhr> Seems I missed an option in the boot manager setup, any ideas please?
[22:59] <[deXter]> Why are you using Mandriva?
[22:59] <dies_irae> Slart: are you doing it??
[22:59] <[deXter]> that's a dead distro and the company has gone bankrupt
[22:59] <Rioting_Pacifist> maxhr: does kb work in ctrl+alt+f2
[23:00] <balgarath> how to fix or troubleshoot dependency/configuration? google not helping me: http://pastie.org/3221776
[23:00] <Rioting_Pacifist> [deXter]: lets not start distro wars
[23:00] <[deXter]> Rioting_Pacifist, I'm just stating the facts.
[23:00] <Slart> dies_irae: give me a second.. let me see if I can get virtualbox installed first
[23:00] <urlin2u> maxb, mandriva now has control of the boot, you could use a supergrub disc and get to kubuntu and reload grub to the mbr and update-grub and have mandriva probably, I don't know what bootloader mandrivav uses though, you might try ## linux as well.
[23:01] <BarkingFish> urlin2u: As of their last issue, it was GRUB, not GRUB2
[23:01] <dies_irae> Slart: thanks a lot!! As I said, I've checked the flash drive in order to check whether folders files partition were missing but everything is there.
[23:01] <BarkingFish> I know cause I came to (k)ubuntu from their back in June last year
[23:01] <maxhr> Rioting_Pacifist: I get nada from keyboard, have to shutdown with power button
[23:01] <alecbrooks> maxhr: Did you write to the GRUB configuration file from scratch? You might want to copy and paste from Kubuntu's /boot/grub dir.
[23:01] <urlin2u> BarkingFish, ah col thanx :D
[23:02] <urlin2u> cool*
[23:02] <DaveWM> is it possible for me to give a group I created full read/write/execute/all access recursively to a directory ?  The group I created is wwwaccess and I added everybody that is allowed to edit delete execute the web files,  including user www-data to the group
[23:02] <dies_irae> Slart: the stage where it does the "Configuring Hardware" and lemme know whether there something else afterwards.
[23:02] <BarkingFish> and for your benefit, [deXter], mandriva is not yet bankrupt, it's in administration at this time, and an offer has been made to buy the company out.
[23:03] <BarkingFish> That's as of 17th January, decision is delayed on what's happening until 23rd January
[23:03] <[deXter]> Ah okay.
[23:03] <DarkSmoke> IS there some verbose flag for this new bootloader configuration file? and is there some kind of splash for ubuntu which has the bootup text coming up?
[23:03] <[deXter]> Still, the stats on Distrowatch don't look good. If you're new to Linux and you depend on community support, you should stick to one of the top 10 distros..
[23:03] <maxhr> alecbrooks: I didn't write manually, just added the entry using mandriva boot manager tool, specified the partition and then the vmlinuz and initrd... don't know if the fact that mandriva uses grub, instead of grub2 is a problem
[23:03] <urlin2u> maxb, you familiar with supergrub?
[23:04] <huseyinX> hello, How can i see/config my photo on Login Screen (ubuntu 11.10). thanks
[23:04] <nookfrog> can anyone tell me where I might ask about rooting a new Nook Tablet ?
[23:04] <urlin2u> nookfrog, not supported here.
[23:04] <maxhr> urlin2u: no, haven't heard of it
[23:04] <nookfrog> k ty
[23:04] <DarkSmoke> nookfrog: if its android check xda-developers
[23:05] <alecbrooks> maxhr: I was just wondering if you based it off of the default bootloader configuration.
[23:05] <DexterF> hi
[23:05] <ratcheer> Today, my system stopped automounting USB removable drives. I think it may be related to the 3.0.0-15 kernel upgrade. I tried to edit /apps/nautilus/preferences with gconf-editor, but the option for media_automount_open does not even show up. Can anyone help, please?
[23:05] <Rioting_Pacifist> ls -l bin/bash shows bash and it is executable but chroot ./ returns "failed to run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory" :(
[23:06] <alecbrooks> maxhr: I don't think grub/grub2 should make a difference. I'm not an expert, though.
[23:06] <urlin2u> maxhr, it will boot a OS that is not showing and or a borked boot, you can boot to the kubuntu with kt then load grub 2 to the mbr and then update-grub and mandriva should be in the grub menu. http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[23:06] <DexterF> 10.04, intel 2200BG wireless, network-manager says "device is not managed" - what does that mean and how do I get it working?
[23:06] <almoxarife> alecbrooks: it does make a diff
[23:06] <spacebug-> Rioting_Pacifist: trying it here also ang get same result. User error of course.. reading more..
[23:07] <urlin2u> alecbrooks, grub legacy just needs the right stanzas grub 2 will auto add them.
[23:07] <DarkSmoke> IS there some verbose flag for this new bootloader configuration file? and is there some kind of splash for ubuntu which has the bootup text coming up?
[23:07] <Slart> dies_irae: are you using the regular desktop install?
[23:08] <maxhr> urlin2u: is there a way to fix things from mandriva?
[23:09] <urlin2u> maxhr, probabl but I'm not a grub legacy guru grub 2 is where i have put my work.
[23:09] <almoxarife> DexterF: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9300712&postcount=2
[23:10] <urlin2u> maxhr, grub legacy is not really supported as well now, grub 2 will add a OS automatically.
[23:10] <DarkSmoke> is it posible no one can help me about this simple problem?
[23:10] <alecbrooks> urlin2u: Sorry, don't completely understand. You mean grub2 auto-adds entries from legacy grub?
[23:10] <dies_irae> Slart: regular, yes, no server, no netbook edition etc.
[23:10] <DaveWM> can somebody explain to me what group this is assigning the permission to "chmod g+w file         (Give write permission to the group)"
[23:10] <urlin2u> alecbrooks, grub 2 will chainload a grub legacy yes.
[23:10] <DaveWM> that's an example of a web page
[23:11] <DaveWM> I don't get it,  cause there is no group name specified
[23:11] <bytesaber_work> would ubuntu 11.04 "flash" my efi of my macbook?   My macbook is black screen on power on after installing.
[23:12] <flowerpot> I'm using Ubuntu 11.10.  It came with GRUB, but dpkg -l grub shows that grub isn't installed.  How can this be?
[23:12] <balgarath> using aptitude to install java, im getting a Segfault and error processing shared-mime-info.  any ideas how to troubleshoot this? http://pastie.org/3221776
[23:12] <maxhr> urlin2u: thx, guess that is a good sign mandriva is a little in the past, and all these other headaches makes it not worth trying further
[23:12] <bigterd> how can one disable an EIDE channel on a motherboard? freebsd has atacontrol so you can detach channels/attach/reinitialize. wonder what the equivalent is for linux?
[23:12] <urlin2u> flowerpot, 11.10 s grub 2
[23:12] <urlin2u> is*
[23:12] <DexterF> almoxarife: yay, thanks
[23:12] <ubuntu_> hello
[23:12] <ubuntu_> ok...let me pose my problem
[23:13] <DaveWM> its annoying me that between that between reading editing and executing files from my normal account,  www-data user,  and root user,  I can't seem to have any consistency in permissions working,  so I made a group called wwwaccess and added all three to it,  now I want to give that group full access to the web directory
[23:13] <urlin2u> maxhr, there are others that use grub legacy as well, it is justa matter of underatnding how to reload the mbr and where grub is installed on installations.
[23:13] <flowerpot> urlin2u, I mean, I'm using GRUB - it's there and working, because I can see the GRUB menu when I boot up.  However, dpkg -l grub and dpkg -l grub2 both show as uninstalled.  I want the interactive grub prompt, but can't find it.
[23:13] <urlin2u> flowerpot, you removed grub2?
[23:13] <flowerpot> I did not; it came like this.
[23:13] <ubuntu_> i booted ubuntu via a usb drive, installed ubuntu, and when it restarted i did not see the option to boot into the new installation
[23:14] <ubuntu_> I am running it along side win7
[23:14] <almoxarife> DarkSmoke: what you are looing for is grub2 options, and they are spelled out in /etc/default/grub
[23:14] <young_chook> Hi, I was wondering if someone can please help me with Advanced Settings in Ubuntu 11.10
[23:14] <urlin2u> flowerpot, run this command and post the results. sudo grub-install -v
[23:14] <flowerpot> grub-install (GRUB) 1.99-12ubuntu5
[23:15] <urlin2u> flowerpot, argh that be grub 2
[23:15] <OerHeks> dpkg -L grub-pc
[23:15] <urlin2u> ;D
[23:15] <dagerik> Can a shell script add data to pasteboard?
[23:15] <flowerpot> But dpkg -l grub2 shows: un  grub2          <none>         (no description available)
[23:15] <flowerpot> Doesn't "un" mean that is isn't installed?
[23:15] <almoxarife> !info grub
[23:15] <urlin2u> flowerpot, so what s the actual problem?
[23:16] <urlin2u> is*
[23:16] <almoxarife> !info grub2
[23:16] <flowerpot> urlin2u, I want to use the interactive GRUB shell,  but the commands grub and grub2 do nothing
[23:16] <DarkSmoke> almoxarife: I know, thats the file to edit, but what i asked for is there a flag for verbose mode or a flag for a splash screen with verbosity ?
[23:16] <ubuntu_> simple boot question for any takers
[23:17] <dies_irae> Slart: how's going :)
[23:17] <dies_irae> any progress??
[23:17] <urlin2u> flowerpot, so what is your definition of the interactive GRUB shell and what do you want to do with it?
[23:17] <dies_irae> I wish installation process was documentet somewhere
[23:18] <Slart> dies_irae: its installing.. I'm recording a video of the process.. hopefully I can upload it to youtube or something
[23:18] <dies_irae> flowerpot=tiesto
[23:18] <almoxarife> DarkSmoke: and you looked at the file? cause when i do i see at least the first answer to your question
[23:18] <urlin2u> ubuntu_, ask your questions. :D
[23:18] <ubuntu_> hmmm
[23:19] <young_chook> need help with a shell theme, there is a yellow triangle
[23:19] <pepp-elito> i, I'm having problems with resolutions in ubuntu 11.10.I can only select max 640X480 in nvidia-settings (280, have tried x-swat aswell). How can i force a resolution to appear in nvdia-settings. Have tried get-edid and xrandr without success. Have tried xorg.conf also ut im not sure how it should be done... Anyone who can help med to get a proper resulotion availible in nvidia-settings? Must i reset the xserver in someway to make
[23:19] <fatih> hello...nat one ?? :)
[23:19] <ubuntu_> ok...i booted via usb, then installed ubuntu to run along side win7
[23:19] <DarkSmoke> almoxarife: i don't understand.. maybe in kubuntu the file it's different then ubuntu, but i don't see the answer to my question.
[23:19] <flowerpot> urlin2u, I want to practice installing GRUB natively using GRUB's command shell from inside Ubuntu.
[23:19] <fatih> any one ??
[23:20] <ubuntu_> after installation and re-boot, there was no option to start the ubuntu OS
[23:20] <ubuntu_> so i booted back into usb
[23:20] <almoxarife> DarkSmoke: you in #kubuntu?
[23:20] <ubuntu_> but i want to see the option to boot into ubuntu
[23:20] <urlin2u> flowerpot, Do you mean installing grub to the OS and or the mbr?
[23:20] <urlin2u> grub 2 that is
[23:20] <DarkSmoke> no one answered me there almoxarife i waited a few minutes but seems death..
[23:21] <Slart> dies_irae: ok, configuring hardware now
[23:21] <Ben64> DarkSmoke: read the top few lines of grub.cfg
[23:21] <spacebug-> RiotingPacifist_: I got it
[23:21] <OerHeks> ubuntu_ hold left shift @ boot, to enter the grub menu
[23:21] <urlin2u> !grub > flowerpot
[23:21] <flowerpot> urlin2u, Yes, I want to install GRUB to the MBR
[23:21] <Slart> dies_irae: then goes on to something else I didn't have time to read.. then installing boot loader and other stuff
[23:21] <spacebug-> RiotingPacifist_: You need to mount (using bind) the folders /lib and /lib64 to the chrooted dir
[23:22] <spacebug-> RiotingPacifist_: And you might want the whole /bin if you gana use things like ls and such ;)
[23:22] <urlin2u> flowerpot, the command is sudo grub-install /dev/sdX the X being the dives mbr not a partition you can run blkid to see the drive to see whether it would be sda or sdb etc
[23:22] <urlin2u> bilkid*
[23:23] <huseyinX> hello, How can i see/config  Login Screen (Ubuntu 11.10). thanks
[23:23] <urlin2u> flowerpot, sorry blkid or sufo fdisk -l
[23:23] <urlin2u> sudo*
[23:23] <flowerpot> urlin2u, thanks - I understand that grub-install is just a script and that you can install using the GRUB shell if for example grub-install fails.  I was hoping to practice that method.
[23:23] <Dlabz> Hi, guys. Trying to install ubuntu on zbox VD01... flashed the BIOS, but install hangs -> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/580643/SendTo/photo.JPG any ideas? thanks
[23:23] <RiotingPacifist_> spacebug thanks just rebooting as i tried mounting dev over my chroot :( will try that when im booted up
[23:24] <dies_irae> Slart: thanks, that helps because it confirms that the MBR isn't installed in my case. Thanks a lot for your time.
[23:24] <flowerpot> urlin2u, it's not necessary right now, but I'm just curious since I'm looking at a set of instructions that makes use of the GRUB shell, and I'm curious as to why I can't do it in Ubuntu
[23:24] <spacebug-> RiotingPacifist_: ok
[23:24] <urlin2u> flowerpot, cool, make sure the instructions are for grub 2
[23:25] <Slart> dies_irae: you're welcome.. it's still encoding the movie but it's about 40 % finished.. you want the youtube link if the video works?
[23:25] <urlin2u> flowerpot, or grub-legacy if you want that.
[23:25] <flowerpot> urlin2u, they are not...does this mean the GRUB 2 doesn't have a shell...?
[23:25] <DarkSmoke> Ben64: were is that file located?
[23:25] <dies_irae> Slart: sure why not, it'll be there for others as well.
[23:25] <flowerpot> urlin2u, another curiosity is that GRUB is installed on my MBR but dpkg doesn't think grub or grub2 is installed.  is that normal?
[23:26] <urlin2u> flowerpot, the term shell is throwing as far of what that means to you, can you give alink to the instructions.
[23:26] <Ben64> DarkSmoke: /boot/grub/
[23:26] <ratcheer> Today, my system stopped automounting USB removable drives. I think it may be related to the 3.0.0-15 kernel upgrade. I tried to edit /apps/nautilus/preferences with gconf-editor, but the option for media_automount_open does not even show up. Can anyone help, please?
[23:26] <urlin2u> flowerpot, grub 2 is called grub-common and grub-pc it is there.
[23:26] <jwp121> Anyone hear willing to help a newnie to PGP?
[23:27] <DarkSmoke> Ben64: the only thing i have in the begining is not to edit the file
[23:27] <urlin2u> !ask > jwp121
[23:27] <Ben64> DarkSmoke: it says where to edit
[23:27] <flowerpot> urlin2u, ok.  I'll poke around and see if I can figure it out - I don't wanna ask too many broad questions...the instructions I'm using are in a proprietary book on Linux system administration, so it isn't linkable
[23:28] <RiotingPacifist_> spacebug thanks that has got me in :D
[23:28] <spacebug-> nice ;)
[23:28] <urlin2u> flowerpot, I suspect it is grub-legacy you looking at.
[23:28] <flowerpot> probably.
[23:28] <DarkSmoke> Ben64: yes, i already know which file to edit, that was not what i asked... already told almoxarife this.
[23:28] <pepp-elito> i, I'm having problems with resolutions in ubuntu 11.10.I can only select max 640X480 in nvidia-settings (280, have tried x-swat aswell). How can i force a resolution to appear in nvdia-settings. Have tried get-edid and xrandr without success. Have tried xorg.conf also ut im not sure how it should be done... Anyone who can help med to get a proper resulotion availible in nvidia-settings? Must i reset the xserver in someway to make
[23:29] <urlin2u> pepp-elito, =ypu might try ##linux as well.
[23:29] <flowerpot> urlin2u, thank you for the help
[23:29] <urlin2u> you*
[23:29] <urlin2u> flowerpot, no problem grub can be a challenge that is for sure.:D
[23:29] <LinuxApprentice> i will never buy an nvidia card if i am planning to use linux on that system...
[23:29] <almoxarife> DarkSmoke: feel free to leave me out of it, btw, stop spinning and at least try google, 'grub2 options'
[23:30] <urlin2u> LinuxApprentice, go say that in #fedora and wait for the abuse, lol
[23:30] <LinuxApprentice> urlin2u: lol
[23:30] <DarkSmoke> almoxarife: spinning?
[23:32] <DexterF> running update-manager on 10.04 doesnt offer to upgrade to a newer version and do-release-upgrade says there are none
[23:32] <DexterF> how can I upgrade from here, and can I up to 11.10 directly?
[23:34] <atomicspin> Anyone know any good games that run on Ubuntu that I could play across the LAN with my son?
[23:34] <atomicspin> He's 9.
[23:35] <DexterF> doom3
[23:35] <atomicspin> I do like that game.
[23:35] <atomicspin> But...he's 9.
[23:35] <LinuxApprentice> doom 2
[23:35] <DexterF> he totally will love it
[23:35] <DexterF> tuxracer perhaps?
[23:36] <Pancakez> armagetron might be good, clone of that tron motorcycle game
[23:37] <atomicspin> Oh, nice.  You guys rock me.
[23:38] <ToBeFree> heeey what about...
[23:38] <ToBeFree> SRB2
[23:38] <ToBeFree> http://srb2.org
[23:38] <ToBeFree> the linux port does not work for me, but WINE is doing a perfect job
[23:39] <ToBeFree> @atomicspin
[23:39] <atomicspin> coolness
[23:39] <chuck> I'd like to reinstall Grub in order to access my Ubuntu after a install of Windows what is the most better way to do that?
[23:40] <Guitar_glen> hey all...been begging for help, and been ignored
[23:40] <Jordan_U> chuck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[23:41] <DexterF> Guitar_glen: tell what the problem is, what you tried and what happened
[23:41] <Jeruvy> Guitar_glen, just ask you question in full.  If you don't get an answer in a few minutes feel free to repeat it.
[23:41] <Guitar_glen> ok...i booted ubuntu via a usb to install it along side win7
[23:41] <LinuxApprentice> what's a good program, preferably a CLI program that supports ALOT of input formats and can output to WAV ?
[23:41] <Jordan_U> Guitar_glen: If nobody know the answer to your question, nobody will answer. It's not because we're ignoring you.
[23:41] <urlin2u> Guitar_glen, black screen
[23:42] <DexterF> LinuxApprentice: check out mplayer's man page on output devices, think it has a disk writer plugin.
[23:42] <Guitar_glen> when it installed and rebooted, there was no option to choose os
[23:42] <Guitar_glen> so i had to boot back into usb
[23:42] <Guitar_glen> how can i have the option to choose the new ubuntu os
[23:42] <LinuxApprentice> DexterF: but can it transcode game-console sound files?
[23:42] <urlin2u> Guitar_glen, you boot the thumb?
[23:42] <DexterF> Guitar_glen: you need to install the bootloader grub from within ubuntu
[23:43] <Jordan_U> Guitar_glen: So when you booted from the internal hard drive it booted Windows without any boot menu?
[23:43] <Guitar_glen> black screen?
[23:43] <chuck> Jordan_U: Thanks I will do
[23:43] <DexterF> LinuxApprentice: only if it supports the format of course. what game console file type would that be?
[23:43] <chuck> Jordan_U: that
[23:43] <Jordan_U> chuck: You're welcome.
[23:43] <DexterF> !tell Guitar_glen grub
[23:43] <LinuxApprentice> DexterF: nsf,spc,minipsf and psf
[23:43] <DexterF> dang
[23:44] <Guitar_glen> ok...grub
[23:44] <Guitar_glen> where do i find the grub
[23:44] <urlin2u> Guitar_glen, some have graphic problems=black screen, just asking, but you confirmed not the problem.
[23:44] <LinuxApprentice> DexterF: is there a channel for stuff like this? sound files,players, encoding ,transcoding info ?
[23:44] <urlin2u> Guitar_glen, did you boot the thumb for install or install from windows?
[23:44] <DexterF> Guitar_glen: ask the ubottu bot about grub, dive into some links
[23:45] <Guitar_glen> i booted first from usb, and installed from usb
[23:45] <LinuxApprentice> Guitar_glen: what's the problem?
[23:45] <DexterF> LinuxApprentice: maybe at #mplayer they have clues. not the easiest people to talk to but they know a lot :)
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> Guitar_glen: there is a how to on omgubuntu called: sticking it to grub   shows how to reinstate grub from liveCD/USB
[23:45] <LinuxApprentice> DexterF: so i am finding out, one guy is wayyyyyyyyyy out there. don't what he is talking about
[23:45] <murfie> zo
[23:46] <urlin2u> Guitar_glen, try starting the computer with the thumb in and first in the bios at times it gets the grub bootloader rather then the hd you may get a grub menu then.
[23:46] <murfie> rehi
[23:46] <DexterF> LinuxApprentice: ask for clarification then. it's ok to point out that you're a newbie on a certain subject as long as you don't get people to think you're letting them do your homework
[23:47] <LinuxApprentice> DexterF: i see
[23:47] <Guitar_glen> ok..thanks all
[23:47] <DexterF> LinuxApprentice: and google helps of course
[23:48] <murfie> how do I do l2tpv3 in ubuntu 10.04.2?
[23:48] <urlin2u> Guitar_glen, grub can be put in the mbr if you get in to ubuntu or from the booted thumb let us know whats up for links
[23:48] <dies_irae> Slart: did the upload finish??
[23:48] <LinuxApprentice> DexterF: oh but of course
[23:48] <studioxps> How many partitions does Ubuntu 11.10 have after install??
[23:48] <Slart> dies_irae: yes.. but it was a mess.. and I'm trying to somehow fix it at the moment
[23:49] <urlin2u> studioxps, how did you ninstall?
[23:49] <urlin2u> install
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> murfie: may help http://forums.openl2tp.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=81
[23:49] <young_chook> need help with a shell theme, there is a yellow triangle
[23:49] <meerkats> in unity, can I use 2 app simultaneously? Im editing a presentation, with text of libreoffice writter, and I need to match the text with the presentation. In Unity, as I see it, id have to read text, go to launcher, choose the other app, like that for the whole process. Isnt there an easier way?
[23:50] <jason_hudson> hello everyone i'd like to ask you all a question, i'm in the process of buying a netbook which will be used for very basic tasks and very "basic" gaming (the most consuming being hedgewars i suppose), of all the ones i found there are 2 that caught my attention, one having a C60 (1ghz and Radeon HD 6250)  and one having a N570 (1,6 mhz and GMA3150) do you have any idea about what one would fit best? possibly little games and
[23:50] <jason_hudson> some youtube without much heating or issues? thanks in advance
[23:50] <murfie> ActionParsnip: I tried some of these commands but it does not work in 10.04
[23:50] <urlin2u> studioxps, a auto install will make a ext4 and a swap with a extended around the swap or both.
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> meerkats: try ALT+TAB
[23:51] <cypher-neo> meerkats, If you have the program open, you only need to right-click on the shortcut that appears in the Unity sidebar to open another copy of the program.
[23:51] <murfie> I think I need a newer kernel
[23:51] <studioxps> urlin2u may I PM u plz?
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> jason_hudson: I'd shoot for the ATi
[23:51] <ejv> newer kernel? you're using the wrong distro buddy
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> murfie: possibly, try Oneiric or even Precise liveCD/USB
[23:52] <urlin2u> studioxps, sure, but we lie to keep it in the channel better help that way.
[23:52] <urlin2u> like
[23:52] <jason_hudson> ActionParsnip: you say that those 600mhz * 2 aren't a big difference when the graphic card is better?
[23:52] <DexterF> jason_hudson: what device has a 6 series radeon but inly 1ghz?
[23:52] <DexterF> *only
[23:52] <murfie> ActionParsnip: ok I'll try.. can you help debugging if the tunnel doesn't work?
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> jason_hudson: If you are wanting games then GPU will help a lot
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> murfie: not something I use or have even heard of, I just searched and found that
[23:53] <murfie> ActionParsnip: it seems still experimental.. or is it production ready?
[23:53] <jason_hudson> DexterF: asus 1015BX series
[23:53] <jason_hudson> ActionParsnip: thank you, much appreciated
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> murfie: Precise? Its in Alpha2 but may give what you need
[23:53] <murfie> ActionParsnip: but the l2tpv3 isn't very stable is it
[23:53] <elijah> If I do a traceroute and see 17 hops does that mean that if I download a 2 GB file that all 2 GB goes through all machines of those 17 hops?
[23:53] <DexterF> well, intel gives you open src drivers while the radeon probably performs better at 3d, has more config options. but the drivers... can be a hassle
[23:53] <RiotingPacifist_> murfie you wont need a newer kernel that is a core part of your system but wont addect you user apps much, what you mght need is an upgrade of your distro
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> murfie: see above
[23:54] <murfie> ActionParsnip: hmm ok.. so in theory we could replace you by a google bot..
[23:54] <jason_hudson> DexterF: i can't swear that but i think i found open source ones for that card
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> murfie: its al I seem to have to do, people don't seem to be able to fnid the guides (plus I rarely use google)
[23:55] <murfie> RiotingPacifist_: but I use LTS
[23:55] <neuron> I've got a problem with ./configure, says im missing sqlite3 (sqlite3_open in -lsqlite3)
[23:55] <neuron> but ive got sqlite3...
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> neuron: you will need the -dev if you are compiling
[23:55] <DexterF> jason_hudson: weeeeell: there is an open src driver for radeons, hats off to the devs if they support the 6 series by now, still I'd check how feature complete that drivers is befroehand. #radeon helps. or was ist #ati..?
[23:56] <neuron> sqlite3-dev?
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> neuron: sounds good to me
[23:56] <neuron> ok, thanks
[23:56] <jason_hudson> DexterF: i think it's #radeon , i'll give all that a look, thanks for pointing that out
[23:57] <flowerpot> I've read that you can "burn" an ISO file to a USB stick by using dd.  Is that true?  Are there any implications to doing that I should be aware of...?
[23:57] <RiotingPacifist_> murfie a kernel upgrade will not change your usefacing apps at all, if you want newer apps/unity you need to upgrade the install (e.g 10.4->11.10) i'm not suggesting that, just saying that messing with your kernel is unlikely to help
[23:57] <murfie> what is [7108317.516452] scrab[14642]: segfault at 0 ip 0016f330 sp bf9d3f20 error 4 in libc-2.11.1.so[110000+153000]
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> flowerpot: from Oneiric onwards,, yes you can use the ISO as the if= in a dd command
[23:57] <flowerpot> ActionParsnip, is that specific to Ubuntu or true to Linux in general?
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> flowerpot: some distros it will work, some not
[23:58] <murfie> I get this message few times a day
[23:58] <flowerpot> ActionParsnip, is it actually making a block-by-block copy of the ISO file, or is it manipulating the data somehow?
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> murfie: any bugs reported for it?
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> flowerpot: bit by bit ;) but yes
[23:59] <murfie> ActionParsnip: don't know.. how can I check that?
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> flowerpot: dd keeps going til either the input or output are exhausted
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> !bugs | murfie
[23:59] <murfie> are there still bugs in ubuntu?
[23:59] <flowerpot> ActionParsnip, the thing I was worried about is...I thought ISO files were files that contained a file system specific to a CD rom...is it OK to just copy everything onto a USB stick and expect it to work?