[00:20] <hdon> hi all :) libc is warning my that my kernel is old. i can't change my kernel and i'm willing to try the upgrade of libc. i'm trying to automate the upgrade using ansible. how can i automatically dismiss the prompt that informs me about my old kernel? "apt upgrade -y" still prompts me.
[00:35] <freibooter> Hey there, is anyone running 17.10 beta and was stupid enough to install "Dash to Dock", like me?
[00:35] <freibooter> It killed Ubuntu Dock and I have no idea how to get it back ...
[00:36] <freibooter> Hope this is the right channel, or is there a special one for the beta?
[00:36] <glitsj16> #ubuntu+1 untill 17.10 gets released
[00:37] <freibooter> Ah, thanks. I'll try there then, I guess.
[00:37] <glitsj16> did you remove dash-to-dock?
[00:37] <freibooter> Yeah, that's what killed Ubuntu Dock.
[00:38] <freibooter> Installing dash to dock replaces ubuntu dock, worked well ... UNINSTALLING dash-to-dock doesn#t bring it back, though.
[00:39] <bazhang> freibooter, what version ubuntu
[00:39] <freibooter> Trying apt-get reinstall of the ubuntu dock extension ... even dpk-reconfigure ... nothing, simply gone
[00:39] <glitsj16> maybe try reinstalling gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock
[00:40] <freibooter> As I said, glitsj16, first thing I tried.
[00:40] <freibooter> Nope
[00:40] <bazhang> freibooter, is this 17.10
[00:40] <freibooter> bazhang, the evil wrong one, 17.10 ... I know I'm wrong here but it's nice that glitsj16 is trying to help. I'll be gone in a minute.
[00:41] <freibooter> I'll try on #ubuntu+1
[00:41] <glitsj16> I haven't seen 17.10 beta, does it show up in gnome-tweak-tool?
[00:41] <bazhang> freibooter, glitsj16 can support you there
[00:41] <freibooter> Oh, great, thanks.
[00:41] <glitsj16> bazhang: okay, no problem
[00:41] <freibooter> Haven't actually tried the tweak tool ...
[00:41] <bazhang> please take ti there and there alone
[00:42] <freibooter> will do, thanks again
[01:16] <ghoti> Trying to configure rsyslog to put log entries from a Snom voip phone into a separate log file, and I need some help. 'm trying to match the lines with a condition that will apply a template...
[01:16] <ghoti> The lines look something like this: 2017-09-19T17:00:29-04:00 <IP_ADDRESS> 00041371A09D [DEBUG2] PHN: SIP: result of get_ip_adr:<IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:17] <ghoti> The third field is the Ethernet address of the device. Then the rule looks like this: if $msg contains "00041371A09D" then {\n action(type="omfile" DynaFile="PathByDateSnom")\n stop\n}
[01:17] <ghoti> Anything obvious as to why this doesn't work?
[01:17] <ghoti> Am I looking at the wrong field or something?
[02:09] <blakes5> Hey, anyone know of a hardware channel that can help trouble shoot and memory installation?
[02:10] <krytarik> blakes5: ##hardware
[02:11] <blakes5> thanks
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:51] <Sinopsis> I'm a total f'n noob when it comes to *nix...is anyone really bored and want to help me with a few things?
[03:52] <Sinopsis> probably take someone who knows what they're doing 5-10 mins
[03:54] <Bashing-om> !ask | Sinopsis
[03:54] <horny-sama> when will ubuntu release kernel 4.12 update
[04:01] <Sinopsis> auto enp10s0\n
[04:01] <Sinopsis> iface enp10s0 inet dhcp
[04:01] <Sinopsis> oops..that wasn't supposed to goto ch at yet
[04:01] <Sinopsis> new irc client
[04:02] <Sinopsis> I've got a mobo with two on board nics....both work fine individually when I install, I can choose either one....but I dont know how to get the 2nd to activate after installation...just trying to get them both to dhcp an address, then want to get them bonded/teamed...I tried adding what i pasted above to /etc/network/interfaces, but then the sytem
[04:02] <Sinopsis> takes 5 mins to boot and still doesn't get an ip on the 2nd adapter
[04:03] <Sinopsis> i also have no idea why the adapters are eno1 and enp10s0 instead of eth0 and eth1
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic artful | horny-sama
[04:06] <horny-sama> lotuspsychje: how do I install 4.12
[04:06] <horny-sama> currently using 4.10
[04:06] <horny-sama> will it improve my mining result?
[04:06] <platz> i'm trying to apt-get remove --purge some old linux-image packages to free up space on /boot, but apt tries to install the 'not fully installed' new image before it attempts to purge the old ones.  how can i tell apt to purge the old images without it trying to finish installing the new one?
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> horny-sama: mining power has everything to do with overal system performance, not only with a good kernel
[04:07] <horny-sama> lotuspsychje: true
[04:07] <horny-sama> but a good kernel might make a difference
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | horny-sama
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> platz: i usually use bleachbit for cleaning out my system
[04:08] <krytarik> platz: Use "dpkg -P <package>" instead.
[04:08] <Bashing-om> platz: Try with a lower level ' sudo dpkg -P <package> ' .
[04:09] <krytarik> \o/
[04:09] <platz> ok thanks all
[04:09] <horny-sama> my 1070 mine way faster in xubuntu than window using ccminer
[04:09] <horny-sama> same oc
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> horny-sama: for non-ubuntu issues you can use #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:12] <horny-sama> is not an issue just saying ubuntu has magical power to make my gpu mine faster
[04:12] <horny-sama> :P
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> horny-sama: i know thats why i said it doesnt fit here, offtopic discussion
[04:31] <zeist> Hi, I'm having issues with connecting to wifi networks with Linux kernel version 4.4.0-91. When I boot with version 4.4.0-89 I can connect to wifi normally. I see that there are packages called "linux-image-4.4.0-96-generic" in Synaptic, is this what I need to install to test whether newer versions of the kernel have resolved the wifi issue for me?
[04:33] <zeist> My package manager already installed linux-headers-4.4.0-96(-generic) and linux-tools-4.4.0-96-(generic)  but I still automatically boot into 4.4.0-91 so I'm wondering what else I need
[04:44] <zeist> Nevermind, I found out about the linux-generic package, so I installed that and it resulted in me booting into 4.4.0-96 when I restarted, with wifi working :D
[04:46] <akik> zeist: thank you for providing the solution
[04:46] <akik> sometimes people just say nevermind
[04:47] <zeist> Agreed, that is annoying!
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> zeist: wich ubuntu version is that your on?
[05:05] <zeist> lotuspsychje: 16.04 LTS
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> zeist: and wifi chipset? just for feedback i ask :p
[05:07] <zeist> lotuspsychje: Not sure, but I typed in
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> zeist: you can check with sudo lshw -C network
[05:07] <zeist> "sudo lshw -C network" and got "product: Wireless 8260" and "vendor: Intel Corporation"
[05:07] <zeist> sorry that last message was split accidentally :)
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> zeist: ok tnx for info, keep your system/kernel up to date ok
[05:09] <zeist> lotuspsychje: No worries, thanks!
[05:12] <psrjonsnow> wc
[05:15] <Japa> Trying to decide between kubuntu and xubuntu on an older laptop. Thoughts?
[05:16] <peet> xubuntu
[05:17] <peet> lubuntu
[05:18] <Japa> Oh yeah, forgot about lubuntu
[05:19] <hateball> Japa: It's all down to specs really, "old" doesnt say much
[05:19] <Japa> True
[05:20] <Japa> https://www.cnet.com/g00/products/lenovo-thinkpad-t61p/specs/?i10c.referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.co.in%2F
[05:20] <hateball> Japa: But Xubuntu or Lubuntu will be your lightest choices. That said Kubuntu isnt that heavy, but it needs to have 3D accel capable GPU
[05:20] <Japa> There we go.
[05:20] <Japa> Oh, the GPU is nvidia quadro something
[05:21] <hateball> That would run either just fine, but unless you havent already, I suggest you increase the RAM from 2GB to... more
[05:21] <Japa> low-end quadro, but quadro nonteheless
[05:21] <Japa> ram is 4gb
[05:21] <hateball> No worries then
[05:21] <hateball> Then I'd say it's more a matter of personal preference
[05:21] <Japa> NVIDIA Quadro FX 570M - 256 MB
[05:22] <hateball> I'm running Kubuntu on... basically every hardware I have, old netbooks and what not
[05:22] <Japa> I'm personally more used to kde 3.5, to be honest.
[05:22] <hateball> The main bottleneck then is old and slow HDDs
[05:24] <hateball> Japa: Current Plasma is not very much alike to KDE 3.5, apart from still offering you the choice of being able to configure it however *you* see fit
[05:24] <Japa> Yeah, I kno
[05:24] <hateball> anyhow, it's simple enough to liveboot and test
[05:24] <Japa> which is why kubuntu wasn't an automatic for me.
[05:24] <Japa> I've used modern kde, but I'm not super happy with it
[05:25] <hateball> Like I said, it's a personal preference :)
[05:25] <peet> how about the CPU, which one do you have?
[05:26] <Japa> I don't have the laptop with me at the moment to double check, but the cnet specs page says core2duo, 2.2ghz
[05:27] <peet> it's ok! I'm using NUC with atom cpu ,4G RAM, work like a charm
[05:32] <Japa> Wow, just realized that laptop model just passed its ten year birthday
[05:33] <peet> wow, 10year
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> keep it ubuntu issues related guys
[05:34] <Japa> Model was released july, 2007
[05:34] <Japa> fine.
[05:34] <peet> which model
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> we have a nice #ubuntu-discuss for showoff stuff
[05:38] <vigliag> Hi! I've somehow managed to mess up the state of apt, and I'm unable to install any i386 packages, in particular, when I try to install one, apt asks me if it's okay to remove every single package on my system. I had added and removed the i386 architecture while troubleshooting a different issue, I think that's probably when things broke. Any idea why it is happening and how to fix it?
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> vigliag: provide more infor of the whole story please
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> vigliag: ubuntu version, kernel, what are you installing exactly?
[05:40] <sonu_nk> hi there.. i created a user apis for my ubuntu -server..  if i want to run composer with this user then what permission i required for this apis user and in which group i need to put this user
[05:42] <sonu_nk> apis is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> sonu_nk: perhaps the #ubuntu-server channel might know that one?
[05:46] <vigliag> lotuspsychje: hold on... lol, restarting the system and trying a couple more times worked for some reason (I still have the terminal with the failing command open, I tried just before opening up irc). I had lost an hour yesterday on the same problem. Thanks anyway! Sorry for interrupting. Have a nice day.
[06:06] <inerkick> Hi guys. I'm unable to use boomaga printer. it can't read the copy of the print file from cache
[06:06] <inerkick> kindly help
[06:26] <senaps> anybody happen to know how to enable DST for timezones?
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> !time | senaps can this help?
[06:48] <senaps> lotuspsychje: no it didn't ! thanks by the way
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> senaps: repeat your issue here once in a while, for better luck solving :p
[06:53] <senaps> i'll do thanks...
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> senaps: system up to date? ubuntu versionN?
[06:56] <senaps> yup ubuntu is up to date, ntp is off
[06:56] <senaps> 17.04
[07:04] <ducasse> i thought dst was automatically enabled for timezones where it's used
[07:08] <BeforeClick> ? I thought ntp is providing UTC and the local system works out the local variant...
[07:44] <twitchett> hi folks, i'm running into problems when trying to run a software update, wonder if anyone can help
[07:44] <EriC^^> twitchett: what's going on?
[07:44] <twitchett> i changed some settings in the software updater a while back. now it wants to do a "partial upgrade", and this is what I see: https://imagebin.ca/v/3b125KLPdiHe
[07:45] <twitchett> i'm pretty nervous to run that
[07:45] <EriC^^> twitchett: what settings did you change?
[07:45] <EriC^^> twitchett: type "lsb_release -sd" and paste the results here
[07:46] <EriC^^> also type "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termview.me 9999" and paste the link it gives you here
[07:46] <twitchett> i think i changed where Ubuntu gets its updates from, when trying to fix another issue
[07:46] <twitchett> sure, one sec
[07:47] <twitchett> Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
[07:47] <twitchett> http://termview.me/01yq/
[07:47] <EriC^^> thanks
[07:48] <EriC^^> any idea how this line got there? deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety main universe multiverse
[07:49] <twitchett> hmm, no... but i've mucked around a lot with this installation
[07:50] <EriC^^> twitchett: ok, type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:50] <twitchett> ok
[07:50] <EriC^^> delete the last 3 lines including the one i pasted
[07:50] <EriC^^> save & exit then type sudo apt-get update
[07:53] <twitchett> sure, done: https://pastebin.com/x1tdEYpZ
[07:54] <EriC^^> twitchett: try "sudo apt list --upgradeable"
[07:55] <twitchett> it's not asking for a partial upgrade any more :)
[07:55] <twitchett> http://termview.me/y70m/
[07:57] <EriC^^> twitchett: cool
[07:58] <twitchett> thanks a bunch EriC^^, that was some super efficient tech support
[07:58] <EriC^^> twitchett: no problem :)
[08:02] <malinoff> hey, on ubuntu 16.04, how can I configure journald so its persistent logs (/var/log/journal) are always owned by systemd-journal group?
[08:10] <brainwash> malinoff: probably ask in #systemd
[08:12] <malinoff> brainwash: I suppose that issue is specific to ubuntu, as man 8 systemd-journald says: Journal files are, by default, owned and readable by the systemd-journal" system group but are not writable. Adding a user to this group thus enables her/him to read the journal files.
[08:12] <malinoff> turns out, they aren't owned by systemd-journal by default on ubuntu 16.04
[08:15] <brainwash> malinoff: did you manually create /var/log/journal?
[08:15] <malinoff> brainwash: nope
[08:16] <malinoff> okay, it looks like this problem isn't ubuntu-only: https://serverfault.com/a/757473
[08:16] <brainwash> well, it could be ubuntu specific, but the people in #systemd should be able to point you in the right direction
[08:16] <brainwash> aha
[08:17] <brainwash> maybe something with older systemd versions
[09:36] <MLPNKOBJIVHUCGYX> Carry on my wayward son
[09:36] <MLPNKOBJIVHUCGYX> There'll be peace when you are done
[09:36] <MLPNKOBJIVHUCGYX> Lay your weary head to rest
[09:36] <MLPNKOBJIVHUCGYX> Don't you cry no more
[09:37] <oerheks> MLPNKOBJIVHUCGYX, please spam that in #ubuntu-lyrics, this is technical support, thanks
[09:37] <MLPNKOBJIVHUCGYX> Once I rose above the noise and confusion just to get a glimpse beyond the illusion
[09:37] <MLPNKOBJIVHUCGYX> I was soaring ever higher, but I flew too high
[09:37] <MLPNKOBJIVHUCGYX> Though my eyes could see I still was a blind man.    I will use it to get my message out until such a time as the operators become aware.  After which i will probably have to ban evade again later.
[09:46] <MLPNKOBJIVHUCGYX> thank you for your concern, and have a nice fucking day, sir
[09:46] <oerheks> silly lonely kiddo, go away
[09:50] <rysiek|pl> hey
[09:50] <rysiek|pl> we got hit by this bug
[09:50] <rysiek|pl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1584740
[09:51] <rysiek|pl> and while removing libreoffice-gtk* solves the issue, it also removes libreoffice-gnome, which we need to be able to work with LibreOffice and SMB shares
[09:51] <rysiek|pl> anybody any idea how to fix the bug without killing our ability to work with SMB?
[09:57] <goIIum> sox —norm=0 light.wav light_n.wav  <— what it means?
[10:00] <Xatenev_> Hi
[10:00] <Xatenev_> one question - I have a structure like: module1/tests module2/tests module3/tests
[10:00] <Xatenev_> now I want to find all JS files in all modules in the directory tests
 I tried find -path '*/tests/' -name '*.js' but it didnt work :p
[10:18] <luc4> Hello! I'm creating a usb device with an installation of kubuntu. I installed kubuntu through the installed into a partition of the usb device, but now I guess I should need a EFI partition. What is the best way to create one? The procedure written here: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2338836? Or maybe there is some better tool?
[10:24] <durgeoble> hi
[10:25] <durgeoble> if i want to include a .fw file in usb-install media to use at install how do it?
[11:10] <alexas> what is the name of the font used in ubuntu 16 in terminal, how could i know that?
[11:11] <Ben64> open terminal, go to settings, go to font, look at the font
[11:14] <alexas> thanks bu tin text appearacne I can only find 'custom font' option, perhaps am looking at the wrong direction?
[11:18] <Ben64> alexas: look in the terminal application
[11:20] <mahakal> hey guys , my ubuntu is not prompting me for password on protected wifi ..and simplay the network icon dance for a while and then "you are not connected to internet"
[11:20] <mahakal> its happenig since this monday
[11:21] <SimonNL> mahakal: in connections remove your connection and rebuild it.
[11:21] <SimonNL> mahakal: you will be asked for a password then
[11:21] <mahakal> ok
[11:27] <mahakal> SimonNL: it did not help
[11:27] <SimonNL> mahakal: is it your AP ?
[11:28] <mahakal> ummm i just want to connect to wifi hotspot of my android phone
[11:28] <SimonNL> mahakal: check to make sure you are using the correct password
[11:29] <mahakal> it is not prompting for password
[11:29] <SimonNL> mahakal: then try making a new connection in some other way
[11:29] <oerheks> mahakal, maybe you need to unlock the android screen first?
[11:30] <oerheks> sounds more like an android issue than ubuntu
[11:30] <SimonNL> or connect phone by cable and tether the connection mahakal
[11:31] <mahakal> SimonNl: the problem seems generic not just my android phone but even for the router of my hostel i am not prompting for password ..
[11:32] <SimonNL> mahakal: once the connection has been established you won't be asked for it again
[11:32] <oerheks> remove the network connection in networkmanager, and set it up again?
[11:32] <SimonNL> mahakal: so you will need to remove the connection from network manager
[11:35] <SH1N081> clear
[11:35] <SH1N081> Hi guys
[11:35] <SH1N081> I've got a bit of a noobie question
[11:36] <oerheks> if you can tell it is a noobie question, you know the answer already?
[11:36] <EriC^^> ask away SH1N081
[11:36] <SH1N081> I've understood it that 'apt' and 'apt-get' are pretty much the same, but for some reason upgrading with apt-get doesn't upgrade as much as with apt?
[11:37] <oerheks> apt & apt-get does the same, but upgrade and full-upgrade do different things
[11:37] <EriC^^> SH1N081: it depends on the arguments, apt-get dist-upgrade upgrades everything, apt full-upgrade does the same, only prettier
[11:37] <mahakal> SimonNL: it is tethering perfectly and thats what i am doing for 3 days
[11:38] <SH1N081> I've done the following directly after logging onto the shell:
[11:38] <SimonNL> mahakal: carry on then
[11:38] <SH1N081> 'sudo apt-get update'
[11:38] <SH1N081> then 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[11:39] <SH1N081> Next time I log on I've still got a message about updates that can be made
[11:39] <EriC^^> SH1N081: to fully upgrade you need to run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  (you dont need to run upgrade before that, just update)
[11:39] <SH1N081> So if I instead do 'sudo apt update' then 'sudo apt upgrade' it updates properly
[11:39] <Ben64> you'd need 'sudo apt full-upgrade'
[11:39] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:40] <SH1N081> That's the thing, it does the upgrade with just 'upgrade' if I use 'apt' but not if I use 'apt-get'
[11:42] <Ben64> SH1N081: not entirely true but ok
[11:42] <SH1N081> Ok, it 'appears' to do the upgrade =OP
[11:42] <EriC^^> SH1N081: you're right, according to the apt man page it says "new packages will be installed if required to satisfy dependencies" so it's sort of like half the function of full-upgrade or dist-upgrade which can remove or install new packages
[11:42] <SH1N081> Aha. I've missed that bit in the man page
[11:43] <EriC^^> TIL
[11:43] <demophobia> how do i find terminal commands, e.g. to open PCManFM? i searched online and couldn't find it
[11:44] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:44] <EriC^^> demophobia: one way would be to check the Exec= line of the .desktop file of the app in /usr/share/applications or you could do dpkg -L <package> | grep bin to see the binaries
[11:44] <SH1N081> Thanks for the pointers, EriC^^ and Ben64!
[11:44] <EriC^^> SH1N081: no problem
[11:45] <BluesKaj> oops
[11:46] <ioria> demophobia, what you mean ? have you run pcmanfm --help ?
[11:47] <demophobia> ioria, PC and pc were not tab-completing, though after reading you comment here, 'pcm' did indeed tab-complete
[11:47] <oerheks> 3 letters to tab-complete, indeed
[11:47] <demophobia> thanks. oerheks is that a universal rule?
[11:48] <ioria> depends
[11:49] <ioria> demophobia, touch aa  and ls a + tab
[11:51] <maja> hello, i am trying to setup my bluetooth and i keep on getting https://kopy.io/kDWyW
[11:52] <maja> is there something i should do to my andriod phone ?
[11:52] <demophobia> ioria, please elaborate -- i don't understand the phrase "touch aa"
[11:52] <demophobia> i see that 'touch' is an LXTerminal command
[11:52] <ioria> demophobia, touch just creates an empty file
[11:53] <oerheks> maybe some commands to take 2 letters, i notices it takes 3
[11:53] <oerheks> it is bash policy
[11:53] <edgy> Hi, I have a couple of ubuntu servers and one of them has uuidd.service enabled. I haven't enabled it myself and not sure whether it's needed. How can I tell what enabled it and whether it's safe to disable? ps shows /usr/sbin/uuidd --socket-activation
[11:53] <oerheks> maja, those are just warnings when you open a GTK program in terminal
[11:54] <demophobia> tried it, thanks
[11:54] <ioria> demophobia,  what i'am trying to say is that there is no fixed rule... depends on the filenames in your sys
[11:54] <demophobia> gotcha
[11:56] <oerheks> if you want to surppress those warnings: <command> &> /dev/null
[12:00] <maja> oerheks: but no files get sent
[12:03] <maja> oerheks: even this one Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to measure available space: The specified location is not supported
[12:05] <elim_garak> is the download provided on ubuntu . com the unity or gnome variant of 17.04 ?
[12:09] <mahakal_> SimoNl: nmtui solves my problem
[12:11] <netscape101> I want a friend who is using windows to try ubuntu(but just the terminal) without using virtualbox. is it possible to install the bash for windows (which is essentially ubuntu bash for windows) on windows 7? I'm only seen tutorials showing how to do it on WIndows 10
[12:11] <oerheks> maja.. why do you do this in terminal? use the BT manager
[12:12] <oerheks> netscape101, no. simple short answer.
[12:12] <zamba> i want to install ubuntu server on a remote location.. the problem is that the ISO is around 800 MB and it takes forever to upload to the server
[12:13] <scottjl> mail them a cd?
[12:13] <gosmoy> is ubuntu 17.04 lot of bug?
[12:14] <gosmoy> when i try to loggin, when iam at desktop, bug report is always appeared.
[12:35] <demophobia> it's too difficult -- hairthin sensitivity -- to resize windows in ubuntu 16.04
[12:36] <demophobia> how do i make the clickbox larger to resize windows?
[12:36] <demophobia> (trying just now to resize firefox windows)
[12:42] <jk^> hi all
[12:42] <jk^> please, how to request a cancellation of a pastebin pasted for error?
[12:43] <jk^> on paste.ubuntu.com?
[12:49] <japa> installing nvidia drivers from the restricted repos results in mdf mismatch, and downloading the file manually gives me a broken file.
[12:49] <japa> What do?
[12:51] <japa> *md5 mismatch
[12:51] <oerheks> japa, only when you logged in on ubuntu/SSO, you can delete them manually, else they stay up for years
[12:51] <oerheks> AFAIK
[12:52] <oerheks> so older ubuntuforum posts will be usefull
[12:52] <oerheks> japa sorry,was for jk^
[12:53] <BluesKaj> japa, which gpu?
[12:53] <BluesKaj> nvidia dpu?
[12:54] <ren0v0> Hi, my network card is only linked at 100mbit, but supports 1000. I've tried running  "sudo ethtool -s enp3s1 speed 100 duplex full" but it just kills the connection, any ideas?
[12:58] <blacknred0> does anybody know if there is a way to first connect to wifi and then vpn? i found this and it is working, but it does not when my pc wakes up from sleep -> https://airvpn.org/topic/14611-gnome-316-and-vpn-autoconnect/
[13:00] <ducasse> ren0v0: which chipset?
[13:07] <ppang> which special characters are allowed in hostname?
[13:09] <ducasse> ppang: see hostname(5)
[13:15] <jk^> [14:52] <oerheks> so older ubuntuforum posts will be usefull
[13:15] <jk^> [14:52] <oerheks> japa sorry,was for jk^
[13:15] <jk^> I dont' understand
[13:17] <ducasse> jk^: if you weren't signed in you can't delete it
[13:18] <akik> it's my long time goal to disable the framebuffer in ubuntu. i've found that i can accomplish it with "nomodeset vga=0" but in turn, Xorg.0.log says that it can
[13:18] <akik> can't use my intel graphics card
[13:20] <akik> actually the igpu still works but only with the vesa driver
[13:21] <ducasse> afaik the intel driver requires kms
[13:23] <akik> ok
[13:23] <akik> so it is what it is
[13:25] <ducasse> also, aiui wayland requires kms
[13:31] <fmedina> hello
[13:31] <fmedina> I have the strangest problem, I changed hosting for my website about 2 days ago and everyone else seems to be ok with new site, but my chrome keeps resolving old IP
[13:31] <fmedina> and it seems <IP_ADDRESS> on localhost resolves to old IP
[13:31] <fmedina> I changed resolv.conf to resolve using google DNS and chrome still uses old IP
[13:36] <akik> fmedina: web browsers have their own dns cache. maybe it's there?
[13:37] <fmedina> akik deleted DNS cache on chrome
[13:37] <akik> chrome://net-internals/#dns and clear host cache
[13:37] <fmedina> systemd-resolve seems to be problem
[13:37] <akik> fmedina: have you added the address to /etc/hosts?
[13:37] <fmedina> it is resolving to old IP
[13:37] <fmedina> flushed its cache, and again resolves to old IP
[13:37] <fmedina> every other machine is resolving correctly
[13:38] <fmedina> I don't know where this is getting old IP from
[13:39] <akik> fmedina: if you run "dig @your-resolver your-server" does that give back your correct address?
[13:43] <akik> dig your-server should query the local dnsmasq
[13:45] <fmedina> I just disabled systemd-resolved
[13:46] <fmedina> same deal
[13:46] <fmedina> chrome resolving old ip, dnsmasq resolves right ip
[13:46] <akik> so systemd has its own resolver?
[13:47] <akik> i don't have it on 16.04
[13:47] <fmedina> Seems like it: https://askubuntu.com/questions/907246/how-to-disable-systemd-resolved-in-ubuntu
[13:47] <ducasse> fmedina: you didn't answer if it is listed in /etc/hosts
[13:48] <fmedina> oops
[13:48] <fmedina> no woder
[13:48] <akik> there's a resolvconf.service on 16.04. is it the same?
[13:48] <fmedina> ducasse, i forgot about that
[13:48] <fmedina> there it was!
[13:48] <fmedina> ducasse, sorry all
[13:48] <fmedina> I am an idiot
[13:49] <ducasse> always check the simple things first :)
[13:50] <akik> it's quite amazing how the network configuration in ubuntu changes from release to release
[13:51] <akik> all the expired docs in the internet
[13:52] <oerheks> All that digital waste adds up to global warming, indeed
[13:52] <ducasse> the bit bucket will run out soon
[13:53] <ducasse> resolved was introduced as default in 17.04 iirc
[13:54] <akik> ok that's why i don't have it. does 17.04 have resolvconf.service ?
[13:54] <oerheks> yes
[13:55] <oerheks> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25579841/
[13:57] <d0uglas> hi folks, running latest nginx, somewhere along the line when grepping the access.log grep began complaining of the file being binary. How could that happen, other than the file being touched by anything other than nginx?
[13:58] <d0uglas> also, would this clean it up? -- cat access.log | tr -d '\000' > access.log
[13:59] <oerheks> d0uglas, why not use logrotate?
[14:00] <d0uglas> because it's just a test server and I want a giant file for now, though I will soon
[14:01] <d0uglas> hey i think I found a naughty line that might have done this, what does this look like to you? <IP_ADDRESS> - - [09/Sep/2017:04:02:36 -0400] "\x16\x03\x01\x01\x22\x01\x00\x01\x1E\x03\x03W\x82\xEE\x81\xE0^\x94=\x01D\xEE\xF1\x00\xBA\x82:\xEBs#o\x09\xE7\x8F\x0C\x0B\x88\xD0\xDD\x8A\xFB\xABw\x00\x00\x88\xC00\xC0,\xC0(\xC0$\xC0\x14\xC0" 400 173 "-" "-"
[14:01] <zarzar> how do i install 4.8.1 arm-linux-gnueabihf ?
[14:02] <d0uglas> chinese IP
[14:03] <d0uglas> next day the same from a russian ip.. man those guys never give me a break
[14:03] <oerheks> zarzar, current trusty-updates gives 4.8.4 why an older version ?https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/gcc-4.8-arm-linux-gnueabihf ...
[14:04] <zarzar> FIPS 140-2 validated config is with 4.8.1 on imx6
[14:04] <akik> d0uglas: have you just configured ssl in nginx?
[14:04] <oerheks> zarzar, oh, no idea then, maybe you better reask in #ubuntu-arm
[14:05] <d0uglas> five days or so ago
[14:05] <akik> d0uglas: i searched google for the first three bytes and it says about missing SSLEngine on in apache httpd. maybe it's a similar problem in nginx
[14:06] <d0uglas> ahh..
[14:06] <d0uglas> i'll look that up, thank you
[14:06] <zarzar> oerheks: i've asked on several ubuntu sub channels, no response yet
[14:07] <ducasse> zarzar: we only support the packages in the repos, if you want a different version that is entirely up to you
[14:07] <zarzar> oh ok
[14:09] <d0uglas> if I may ask another question, I managed to score 390/400 on ssllabs, I'd prefer 400/400. The deficit apparently is in "key exchange" and the only thing in the details of the report that I can find that looks like a complaint is no DNS CAA. I have a very vague idea of what that is, but might that related to key exchange? I'm hosting on a residential account, I think fixing that is out of reach. https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze
[14:21] <crazycoder> hello
[14:21] <crazycoder> anyone know a good software to edit pdfs ?
[14:22] <Skyrider> Does crontab have the ability to move a file and rename it according to a specific date?
[14:23] <EriC^^> Skyrider: yeah
[14:23] <Skyrider> like rn /home/yada/file.txt /home/yada/backup/file-%m%d%y%H%M%S.txt
[14:23] <Skyrider> or was it mv..
[14:23] <EriC^^> mv
[14:23] <Skyrider> Would like to know how though :)
[14:24] <EriC^^> Skyrider: mv /file /file-$(date +"%m%d%Y%H%M%S").txt
[14:25] <Skyrider> interesting.
[14:25] <Skyrider> Thanks :D
[14:25] <Skyrider> The cron jobs in the crontab file are executed in order, right?
[14:26] <imfearless> they run based on time
[14:26] <imfearless> if all the times are the same, they technically run all at the same time
[14:26] <imfearless> but they do execute chronologically
[14:27] <EriC^^> Skyrider: no problem
[14:27] <Skyrider> Awesome :D
[14:28] <Skyrider> I also heard crontabs alternative, though no idea if I should replace it with eg, fcron.
[14:28] <Skyrider> Not sure what you guys recommendations are.
[14:30] <imfearless> cron works as intended
[14:30] <imfearless> not sure why you'd need to replace it
[14:30] <imfearless> unless it's not doing something you'd want it to
[14:33] <Skyrider> Not sure (yet) ^^
[14:33] <japa> BluesKaj, Nvidia GPU
[14:33] <Skyrider> Crunning multiple cron jobs on the same script, moving/renaming, etc.
[14:33] <Skyrider> Not sure if the crontab is intended for that. (on a hourly, weekly, etc basis)
[14:34] <BluesKaj> japa, yes, but which one?
[14:34] <japa> Quadro FX 570m
[14:36] <jiffe> what file(s) does apt-get update touch?
[14:37] <BluesKaj> japa, is this a laptop with the hybrid Optimus graphics system?
[14:38] <hateball> japa: If you get broken downloads, try a different mirror
[14:38] <hateball> japa: For APT, that is
[14:40] <jiffe> I'm trying to figure out why I have packages that apt-get upgrade will upgrade and unattended-upgrades didn't seem to notice them
[14:42] <jiffe> it looks like unattended-upgrades ran at 6:34 and files in /var/lib/apt/lists are new as of 7:26
[14:42] <jiffe> if I run apt-get update it doesn't seem to touch anything in /var/lib/apt/lists though
[14:43] <jiffe> unless it doesn't do anything if there are no changes or the timestamp is pulled from the remote files
[14:44] <TomyWork> since apt fetches the index as a diff, at least #1 is very likely
[14:45] <BluesKaj> japa, you should be using the nvidia-340.104 driver, also you might need to install dkms first to help build the driver on your system.
[14:46] <arunkumar413> I had imported 100s of photos to shotwell but I would like to select only a few to a new folder. How can i achieve this quickly just by viewing the image one after another
[14:47] <oerheks> Quadro FX 570m uses 319 and up .. http://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/69378/en-us
[14:48] <oerheks> arunkumar413, in nautilus hold ctrl and select the pictures
[14:49] <oerheks> that works in shotwell too
[14:49] <arunkumar413> oerheks: I'm viewing the whole pic one by one not just the thumbnails
[14:49] <oerheks> arunkumar413, that is your problem, .. why not?
[14:51] <zarzar> can i install a deb package without changing the system package already in use? like a side by side install? easy to do with binaries
[14:53] <arunkumar413> oerheks: difficult to guess if the image is good just by looking at the thumbnails.
[14:54] <oerheks> rate them? 1-5 star
[14:55] <arunkumar413> oerheks: I want to look the whole image. If good move/copy to desired folder else  arrow key to view the next image
[14:57] <oerheks> arunkumar413, no such shortkeys AFAIK, just rate them, and sort it, and voila
[15:01] <arunkumar413> then while uploading the pics to cloud or facebook how can I select those pics
[15:02] <oerheks> shotwell got dozens of plugins, see preferences
[15:02] <oerheks> also it has an option to 'show in filemanager'
[15:03] <arunkumar413> oerheks: even rating them is also time consuming process. Have to right each image and select the stars
[15:03] <oerheks> also it has an option 'publish'
[15:04] <oerheks> arunkumar413, time consuming? o dear...
[15:04] <oerheks> i gave you *all* the options i could find, good luck!
[15:04] <japa>  Okay, I'm downloading the nvidia .run driver package
[15:05] <japa> We'll see how that works
[15:05] <japa> (I remember when that was the only way to get the nvidia driver)
[15:05] <oerheks> japa, ,what ubuntu version are you on? that .run file is unsupported here
[15:07] <japa> Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS, Xubuntu flavor
[15:07] <roygbiv> hello all. what is the preferred way to invoke a program at startup? I was going to just stick in /etc/rc.local but having been away from linux for a while i don't know if there's a more blessed way to do this. thanks
[15:08] <harovali> hi, a friend managed somehow to disappear the 'security and privacy' icon in the unity configuration (16.04 LTS). After googling, I told him to run  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  , however the icon is not back. What can be useful here according to your experience ?  thank your very much !
[15:12] <oerheks> harovali, reinstall activity-log-manager-control-center perhaps?
[15:13] <arunkumar413> oerheks: yeah, there are over 1000 pics in my DSLR. How would you select them quickly for publishing
[15:14] <oerheks> arunkumar413, again: i gave you *all* the options i could find, good luck!
[15:15] <arunkumar413> oerheks: those are not quick steps
[15:15] <oerheks> don't make folders with 1000 photos
[15:17] <arunkumar413> oerheks: dslr cam automatically makes them
[15:17] <arunkumar413> if they're shot in a single day
[15:19] <EriC^^> roygbiv: put it in startup apps or make a .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart
[15:24] <texla> I have Ubuntu 16.04 loaded on sda1 at full 457 gb  and using 14.506 gb of sda1 I want to resize to a smaller gb on sda1 soas I can use other partitions..When I use gparted to resize the resize button does not activate the partition shows to be mounted should it be unmounted to resize
[15:29] <theacolyte> Hi there. Ubuntu 16.04. Having a real hard time trying to set file associations via CLI. I've tried mimeapps.list, defaults.list, xdg-mime, nothing seems to work. Has anyone done this sucessfully? Probably also worth mentioning I'm using Mate
[15:33] <harovali> oerheks: it did work !  thank you very much !
[15:38] <oerheks> harovali, have fun!
[15:44] <EriC^^> texla: yes you need to unmount it to resize
[15:45] <hdon> hi all :) i'm trying to automate apt operation from ansible. i think whenever upgrade processes prompt me for input, i should be able to use expect to respond to them. however, some of the prompts i get at command line have ascii art GUIs and would probably be difficult to work with. is there a surefire way to make sure all user interactions use a really simple prompt?
[15:46] <nacc> hdon: why not just make it non-interactive? what prompt is giving an ascii art?
[15:46] <nacc> hdon: i don't believe that's supposed to be allowed by debconf
[15:47] <japa> oerheks, if not the .run file, what's the recommended way to get the drivers if the repo isn't working?
[15:47] <EriC^^> hdon: not sure if it's applicable but apt-get is supposed to be used for scripting and stuff, apt isn't
[15:47] <texla> EriC^^, What would be a good mib size for ubuntu
[15:47] <nacc> EriC^^: good point
[15:48] <nacc> hdon: i think apt even says that (as opposed to apt-get), the cli is not considered stable for scripting
[15:48] <EriC^^> texla: it depends on how much space you need, 10-15gb if you're not going to put much stuff on it
[15:48] <texla> EriC^^, Okay thanks
[15:49] <EriC^^> np
[15:52] <oerheks> japa, i wonder why the repo is not working, can you pastebin the output of sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade?
[15:53] <oerheks> maybe changing mirror, if you rmirror is 'old'
[15:56] <rory> I have an Amazon internal DNS zone, when I use "dig foo.mydomain.internal" I get a result, but when I use "host foo.mydomain.internal" I do not, and also my application is unable to resolve it
[15:56] <rory> This is after deleting and re-creating the DNS record. Is there some kind of cache?
[15:57] <rory> if I use "host -a" I see it. It's a CNAME.
[15:59] <rory> nvm, the thing that it was CNAMEing to doesn't itsself resolve
[16:02] <sorin-mihai> after using ufw allow 3000/tcp i could use that port for a while, but for some reason ufw decided to block my ip on that port. even if ufw is now disabled, the port still can't accept connections to it. tryid all i could, but my google-fu is failing me. anyone can help me with this?
[16:04] <oerheks> japa, why takes this so long?
[16:04] <japa> E: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers-340/nvidia-opencl-icd-340_340.102-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_amd64.deb  Hash Sum mismatch
[16:04] <japa> Doing other stuff at the same time, sorry
[16:04] <japa> That's the relevant error line.
[16:06] <mezzobob> Has someone tried an Dell DA200 usb c to HDMI with 17.04?
[16:07] <oerheks> japa, nice, let us wait.. you can clear the lists and reload them, sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*  && sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[16:09] <japa> oerheks, tried that once already, I'll do it again
[16:11] <texla> EriC^^,  sudo umount /dev/sda1
[16:11] <texla> umount: /: target is busy
[16:11] <texla>  ...The only thing was hexchat and shutdown before using unmount
[16:12] <EriC^^> texla: if it's the root fs you need to boot a live usb and resize from there
[16:13] <japa> didn't try upgrade, actually
[16:13] <texla> EriC^^, I used 14.04 to install then upgraded to 16.04 ..do I use 14.04 disc
[16:13] <EriC^^> texla: either one will work
[16:14] <texla> EriC^^, thanks again
[16:14] <EriC^^> no problem
[16:23] <japa> oerheks, removed the files, did apt update, and apd upgrade, and still same error
[16:26] <ne2k> what's the cleanest way to get openssh-client >7.3 on xenial? I see there are 7.4 packages in zesty. will it kill the world just to install one of these? would it be better to build from source?
[16:27] <EriC^^> ne2k: a clean way would be to install it to /usr/local somehow
[16:29] <nacc> ne2k: why do you need a different openssh-client?
[16:29] <ne2k> nacc, I want -J, which was added in 7.3
[16:31] <nacc> ne2k: you can just use ProxyCommand, no?
[16:31] <nacc> ne2k: in theory
[16:31] <ne2k> nacc, no. the other end is not Linux
[16:31] <ne2k> well, I mean, it doesn't have a normal CLI
[16:31] <nacc> why does the other end matter? we are only talking about the client
[16:32] <nacc> ne2k: are you saying you are ssh'ing to a non-ssh server?
[16:33] <oerheks> japa, so you use the driver tool included?
[16:34] <ne2k> nacc, no, I'm saying I misunderstood how ProxyCommand works. it appears to do what I want. thanks!
[16:34] <nacc> ne2k: ah ok :)
[16:34] <nacc> ne2k: yeah, my understannding was that ProxyCommand can basically be anything
[16:35] <japa> oerheks, it fails without giving any error, so I'm trying instead sudo apt-install nvidia-340
[16:35] <ne2k> nacc, I think I read it along with some stuff about ssh -tt jump ssh -tt dest
[16:35] <nacc> ne2k: it seems like -J is just a shortcut to something similar, but for a specific mechanism (ssh to jump host, tcp forward from jump host to destination)
[16:35] <ne2k> nacc, which won't work because you can't run ssh on jump, because jump doesn't have a normal linux-like CLI
[16:35] <ne2k> nacc, do you know how to do multiple jumps with -ProxyCommand?
[16:36] <ne2k> ah, lots of quotes ;-)
[16:36] <nacc> ne2k: yeah
[16:36] <nacc> ne2k: basically nested executed shells, is what it ends up looking like
[16:36] <oerheks> japa, paste the output of sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade # to see what is going on, you did not post such log what i asked for
[16:38] <slipttees> hi guys
[16:38] <oerheks> your ip suggests you are in India, some mirrors are weeks behind ..
[16:38] <ne2k> nacc, feck, I can't get the quoting right
[16:39] <oerheks> !paste
[16:39] <slipttees> i try rebuild initrd.lz with a new plymouth theme and get this warnings. https://pastebin.com/0HMZmjFG
[16:39] <japa> oerheks, I'll do that now, in the mean time, this is the output when I try to install that specific file: https://pastebin.com/UDr0Hd65
[16:40] <ne2k> nacc, ah, it's OK, had to use " and \" instead of ' and \'. not sure why, but
[16:40] <japa> Here is apt update: https://pastebin.com/zizCnSzb
[16:41] <Arunangshu> how to check wheather audio has 5.1 channel or not in ubuntu
[16:41] <nacc> ne2k: hrm, not sure either
[16:41] <ne2k> nacc, anyway, thanks, you have saved me lots of aggro
[16:41] <nacc> ne2k: np, that seems way better than trying to run/build your own :)
[16:41] <slipttees> i try rebuild initrd.lz with a new plymouth theme and get this warnings. https://pastebin.com/0HMZmjFG. So. initrd.lz new have new playmouth but  the same appears in tthe boot livecd
[16:42] <slipttees> plymouth*
[16:44] <japa> oerheks, finally this is apt upgrade: https://pastebin.com/mD6TqRSq and trying to apt install nvidia-340: https://pastebin.com/i95CUUui
[16:44] <japa> oerheks, I already switched region to the main repo
[16:44] <Datz> Hi, I just posted i kubuntu, but I'll post here as well.
[16:45] <Datz> Hi,I've installed kubuntu on my desktop, when I boot. THis is all I get on my screen. I do have networked root access through grub, any suggestions? https://imagebin.ca/v/3b3gF0k45zYM
[16:45] <Arunangshu> how to check wheather audio has 5.1 channel or not in ubuntu
[16:46] <oerheks> japa, i see .. can you change to PicoNets? that is the only mirror in India that is up2date https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors >> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/mirrors.piconets.webwerks.in-archive
[16:47] <EriC^^> Datz: try booting with nomodeset, it looks like a nouveau driver error
[16:47] <Datz> Ok, I'll try that. Thanks
[16:48] <EriC^^> Datz: after it boots try sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[16:48] <Datz> ok thanks
[16:49] <EriC^^> no problem
[16:49] <ModFather> Can anyone tell me if i am able to configure ban time or tries before ban on Bastille firewall on ubuntu?
[16:50] <theacolyte> Hi there. Ubuntu 16.04. Having a real hard time trying to set file associations via CLI. I've tried mimeapps.list, defaults.list, xdg-mime, nothing seems to work. Has anyone done this sucessfully? Probably also worth mentioning I'm using Mate
[16:52] <tomreyn> ModFather: i don't know bastille but IIRC it's just a frontend for iptables / netfilter. and that offers rate limiting (# connections over time per ip address(es)).
[16:53] <ModFather> tomreyn what do you mean by that? You know bastille, its frontend of iptables.. Bastille uses IPTABLES
[16:54] <ModFather> but its too strict, and if you accidently do 3 failed tries you are banned for ever
[16:54] <ne2k> afaik, iptables cannot do that. so it's probably using fail2ban
[16:55] <ModFather> fail2ban its stopped
[16:55] <ModFather> only Bastille runs
[16:55] <ne2k> when you say it "runs", what actually is it? is it a process? or is it just a front end that configured iptables for you?
[16:56] <tomreyn> ModFather: the 'recent' module of iptables can be used for this purpose. i do *not* know bastille but it may be able to use this module.
[16:56] <ne2k> iptables does not "run", it just "is"
[16:57] <tomreyn> https://debian-administration.org/article/187/Using_iptables_to_rate-limit_incoming_connections
[16:57] <ModFather> ne2k you have right
[16:57] <ne2k> ModFather, du hast Recht → "you /are/ right", not "you /have/ right"
[16:58] <ModFather> ne2k its a script, you are right
[16:58] <ModFather> REALSCRIPT=/sbin/bastille-netfilter
[16:59] <ModFather> but can you explain me how it bans on 3 failed tries ?
[16:59] <ModFather> its crazy..
[17:00] <Robin___> How can I sort files (over 300k) by size? This doesnt work: sudo find /bin -size +300k -ls | sort -k 5
[17:01] <Robin___> well it works, but wont sort by size .D
[17:01] <japa> oerheks, https://pastebin.com/B1NFsmhz
[17:02] <oerheks> japa :-(
[17:02] <oerheks> then i have no clue, if even the Main mirror gives hash sum errors..
[17:02] <EriC^^> Robin___: try with -k 7
[17:02] <japa> will the nvidia .run work at all?
[17:02] <ne2k> Robin___, sort -n -k 7 works for me
[17:03] <ne2k> EriC^^, needs -n numerical sort too
[17:05] <japa> apparently nvidia has a history of bad uploads
[17:06] <oerheks> japa as that .run file is unsupported here, how would we know?
[17:06] <ne2k> find /bin -size +300k -printf '%s %f\n' |sort -n # Robin___, this might be cleaner and easier to understand
[17:06] <Robin___> Thanks guys
[17:06] <hdon> nacc, here is the ascii art https://imgur.com/a/39uHS
[17:06] <nacc> hdon: um, that's not ascii art
[17:06] <nacc> hdon: that's a debconf curses prompt
[17:06] <hdon> EriC^^, oh thanks. i'll stop using apt and use apt-get et al
[17:06] <hdon> nacc, sorry
[17:07] <nacc> hdon: so, as i said, use the various tools to make interactions non-interactive
[17:07] <nacc> hdon: s/tools/options/
[17:07] <hdon> nacc, i tried -y and --force-yes. what are the other options?
[17:08] <nacc> hdon: those only tell apt-get to do something
[17:08] <nacc> hdon: not dpkg
[17:08] <hdon> DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive ?
[17:08] <tomreyn> wasnt that DEBCONF_FRONTEND?
[17:08] <nacc> hdon: you need export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive ; -o DPkg::options::=\'--force-confdef\' -o DPkg::options::=\'--force-confold\' -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes (the latter to apt-get)
[17:09] <nacc> tomreyn: i'm not sure, the DEBIAN_FRONTEND definitely works, i wonder if there's an alias
[17:09] <hdon> nacc, who do i give the -o options to? apt-get?
[17:10] <nacc> hdon: yeds
[17:10] <nacc> *yes
[17:10] <hdon> thanks nacc :)
[17:10] <hdon> i'll give it a try
[17:11] <Datz> EriC^^: I set nomodeset and was able to update the drivers through root with networking. I now get a plusing Kubuntu, but it leads to a blank black screen.
[17:12] <EriC^^> Datz: check the logs in /var/log/kern.log for any clues
[17:12] <tomreyn> nacc: you're right, it's DEBIAN_FRONTEND http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/man7/debconf.7.html
[17:12] <Datz> EriC^^: ok
[17:12] <EriC^^> Datz: did you update the kernel and the whole system?
[17:12] <Datz> EriC^^: I updated it before the graphics drivers
[17:12] <Datz> today*
[17:13] <EriC^^> Datz: aha
[17:14] <hdon> nacc, i got this message: dpkg: error: need an action option. my command was DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get -o DPkg::options::=\'--force-confdef\' -o DPkg::options::=\'--force-confold\' -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes -y upgrade
[17:14] <Datz> EriC^^: was hoping that was a sort of eureka aha :)
[17:15] <nacc> hdon: note, you may or may not need the quoting, sorry
[17:15] <Datz> eh, trying to get to grub with the shift key only works part of the time
[17:15] <hdon> oh wow
[17:16] <nacc> hdon: not sure if that's the problem
[17:16] <nacc> hdon: also, you do nened to export DEBIAN_FRONTEND, in my experience
[17:16] <nacc> hdon: if you need to use a subshell, do that
[17:17] <hdon> nacc, specifying the environ at the beginning of the line isn't the same? (except that with export X=y the variable remains assigned and exported afterward)
[17:18] <hdon> i have taken for granted that they're the same for like 15 years so if i find out they're not i'm gonna have to send you a cake or something
[17:18] <EriC^^> Datz: the logs might have clues, otherwise maybe updating the kernel using a hwe stack if you're on lts might help
[17:18] <nacc> hdon: no, they should be the same; i have just seen curious behavior in my own experience and never bothered digging into why
[17:19] <nacc> hdon: I *know* one works, and I have vague recollections of the other not always workig :)
[17:20] <hdon> ah ok :3
[17:20] <hdon> nacc, btw for the quote i googled up another example, and it looks like for bash, no quotes are necessary
[17:20] <nacc> hdon: sure, i c&p from some other code i have, which is invoking the above in a bash -c in a LXD :)
[17:20] <nacc> hdon: (from a python program)
[17:40] <Arunangshu> how to check wheather audio has 5.1 channel or not in ubuntu
[17:42] <Datz> EriC^^: Saw some stuff in the logs, but not sure about it, here's a little of the logs, if you can take a look https://pastebin.com/YnUQbWyj
[17:45] <Arunangshu> how to delete system application from ubuntu
[17:45] <Datz> maybe I should delete the sys log and reboot
[17:46] <EriC^^> nah
[17:46] <SimonNL> Arunangshu: I'm not sure but I think if you machine does not have more to offer as stereo all other modus will not be shown
[17:47] <Arunangshu> thanks simonNL
[17:47] <Datz> I originally copied the 20mb file without realising its size
[17:47] <Datz> then did tail -1000 but figured it wasn't enough, then tail -9000 which was way too much for any pastebin
[17:47] <Datz> lol
[17:48] <EriC^^> Datz: try with nouveau.modeset=0
[17:48] <Datz> ok, thx
[17:49] <EriC^^> Datz: wait
[17:50] <Arunangshu> how to delete system application from ubuntu
[17:50] <Datz> I wasn't sure when those nouveau errors were from, figured before the nvidia drivers
[17:51] <EriC^^> Datz: it looks like the nvidia driver has a problem, something about module verification failed
[17:52] <Datz> humm, I see
[17:52] <Datz> must be problems with both drivers then
[17:52] <Datz> btw, I cut out seemingly redundant parts of that log, so some stuff is missing
[17:54] <EriC^^> Datz: are you using uefi?
[17:54] <Datz> humm, not sure if it was enabled or not
[17:54] <Datz> I'll have a look through my bios
[17:54] <EriC^^> i think nvidia drivers need some verification stuff
[17:54] <EriC^^> maybe the log will show it, hold on
[17:55] <Datz> I'm on 16.04 I suppose I could try the lastest
[17:55] <EriC^^> yeah seems to be using uefi
[17:55] <Datz> ah ok
[17:55] <EriC^^> Datz: no i mean you need to allow nvidia to sign it or something like that, it's related to secureboot
[17:55]  * EriC^^ googles
[17:55] <donofrio> if nothing has changed on the hard drive, what program do I run to recover pdf's that were accidentally dropped into the trash and removed?
[17:56] <Datz> ah ok I'll take a look
[17:57] <akik> donofrio: photorec
[17:57] <pavlos> donofrio: they may be in your ~/.Trash ... if not, not sure you can recover
[17:57] <EriC^^> donofrio: removed from trash as well?
[17:57] <Arunangshu> how to delete system application from ubuntu
[17:59] <EriC^^> Arunangshu: click on software center > installed > remove
[18:00] <Arunangshu> Eric: I tried that there is no option as remove
[18:00] <EriC^^> Arunangshu: which program are you trying to remove?
[18:01] <Arunangshu> Videos
[18:02] <Datz> EriC^^: well, thanks for your help. don't think I'm going to be able to get this to work though. :(
[18:03] <EriC^^> Datz: try using the hwe stack as well as playing with the nomodeset option, maybe using the official nvidia driver from their website might solve the issue
[18:04] <pavlos> donofrio: another dir, ~/.local/share/Trash/ ...
[18:04] <Datz> EriC^^: I may just try 17.xx or whatever the lastest is awhiile later
[18:05] <Datz> I had Mate working fine before
[18:05] <Datz> KDE just doesn't want to play nice
[18:06] <donofrio> pavlos, no ".Trash" exists?
[18:06] <pavlos> donofrio: just posted another dir
[18:07] <Arunangshu> Eric: its videos application
[18:08] <donofrio> pavlos, all three directoies listed under .local/share/Trash and empty with a timestamp of 22:30 when they were deleted
[18:09] <pavlos> donofrio: seems you cannot recover those files ... can you 'sudo updatedb' and then locate <filename>.pdf
[18:10] <donofrio> i was unable to "find . -name *.pdf" so nope they are gone I guess
[18:11] <pavlos> donofrio: akik suggested photorec, I have not used it
[18:12] <oerheks> arunangshu videos = totem
[18:20] <FManTropyx> "*** System restart required ***" wat do
[18:20] <Arunangshu> how to delete system application from ubuntu
[18:21] <oerheks> arunangshu videos = totem
[18:23] <Arunangshu> oerheks: Yes
[18:24] <oerheks> sure you can delete it: sudo apt remove --purge totem , i just did.
[18:25] <Arunangshu> whether it will clearly remove that without making mess??
[18:25] <oerheks> Arunangshu, sure
[18:25] <pavlos> FManTropyx: reboot
[18:25] <Arunangshu> thanks oerheks
[18:25] <oerheks> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25581367/
[18:49] <asthasr> Question. I have an EC2 instance with a directory "foo" that has been created belonging to a user/group "bob:bob". It appears to have normal directory permissions (755). I can see it in "ls" and "stat *". However, any command that refers directly to the directory fails with a "no such file or directory" error -- chdir, rmdir, stat, etc. -- even if I use sudo
[18:49] <asthasr> Has anyone seen this before?
[19:02] <Apachez> anyone else noticed odd behaviour in the graphics handling (colors and such) from the last days updates? ubuntu 17.04 with oibaf drivers in my case
[19:02] <marshwallow> Hi there! My service doesn't start when the server boots. Using Xenial on an x64 server. No entries in journalctl at all. Could an invalid Type cause this?
[19:03] <oerheks> Apachez, report that to the ppa maintainer
[19:03] <marshwallow> I don't use Oibaf's PPA, so can't really tell.
[19:03] <Apachez> new kernel came last day too
[19:04] <marshwallow> oerheks, what if it's the driver developer's fault?
[19:04] <Apachez> will try some things to verify if its oibaf related or not
[19:05] <oerheks> marshwallow, the only * official* ppa is this ppa, https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa .. so yea, if the driver source has bugs, the maintainer will report to them.
[19:06] <isene> I have a challenge I cannot wrap my wits around no matter which way I go. I am trying to make my screen blank as I close the lid on my laptop. If anyone's up for the challenge, take a look at the challenge and what I've already tried here: http://dpaste.com/1Y5ZS0F
[19:06] <marshwallow> I hope so.
[19:06] <marshwallow> I personally try to handle all user complaints by myself. Reported bugs in my case often don't end up on developers' issue trackers.
[19:08] <nacc> asthasr: sounds like a pretty basic issue -- can you pastebin the output of various commands along with `pwd` each time?
[19:08] <asthasr> nacc: actually it turns out the script was creating the directory with a space at the end, like "foo ". There was also "foo_bar," so autocomplete was useless
[19:09] <Apachez> the beauty of ubuntu, takes just seconds to restore original drivers and problem is fixed
[19:09] <Apachez> seems like something went fubar in the latest oibaf drivers
[19:09] <Apachez> those released today
[19:09] <Apachez> purging oibaf and using original 17.04 drivers resolved the issue of odd colors
[19:10] <brainwash> it's bleeding edge
[19:11] <isene> Anyone?
[19:12] <nacc> isene: are you saying your screen *doesn't* blank when you close the lid?
[19:12] <brainwash> isene: you have set DISPLAY if you use xset in that context
[19:13] <brainwash> doesn't systemd allow you to configure lid close behavior?
[19:15] <marshwallow> Is systemd stuff a topic for this room? I wouldn't like to spam with services here if there's a more applicable place for this.
[19:15] <marshwallow> *appropriate
[19:15] <brainwash> it surely is
[19:16] <isene> Yes - It does NOT blank when I close the lid with what I've tried so far (points 1. and 2. in the write-up)
[19:16] <brainwash> but #systemd has plenty experts
[19:16] <isene> brainwash: I dunno... how do I do that?
[19:17] <marshwallow> brainwash: Already afraid because of the "experts" parts, but will see. Thanks for replying!
[19:18] <brainwash> marshwallow: don't be. they helped me several times already
[19:18] <isene> I need any solution to the issue, not specifically systemd or anything in particular, so if I go to #systemd, I will surely get a systemd-specific solution, no?
[19:18] <ioria> isene, already tried to modify /etc/systemd/logind.conf ?
[19:18] <marshwallow> brainwash: Haha, okay, will trust you :P.
[19:19] <Robin___> Hmm! How can I write a sequence from 1 - 10 in two files at the same time? I tried: "sudo seq 1 10 | cat > file1.txt file2.txt" but it will just accept one file :D
[19:19] <brainwash> isene: export DISPLAY=:0 before running xset
[19:20] <isene> yes, but as I understand, I can only set 'HandleLidSwitch' to either 'suspend' (don't want that - and it doesn't work(!)) or to 'ignore' (what I have now)
[19:20] <isene> brainwash: Will try
[19:21] <brainwash> isene: you could have redirected the error output of your xset command
[19:21] <brainwash> to see why it does not work
[19:21] <marshwallow> Robin___: text=$(seq 1 10); sudo echo $text > file1.txt; echo $text > file2.txt?
[19:22] <marshwallow> Probably not what you're looking for, but ... I gave it a shot :P.
[19:22] <nacc> Robin___: for file in file1.txt file2.tx; do seq 1 10 > $file; done
[19:22] <nacc> Robin___: why are you calling seq with sudo??
[19:22] <Robin___> ignore the sudo part
[19:22] <nacc> Robin___: i did
[19:22] <Robin___> ;p
[19:23] <isene> brainwash: Nope, the 'export DISPLAY=:0' did not work. When I run the '/home/geir/bin/lid_close.sh' manually from the terminal, it does blank the screen (with or without your suggestion) but not via the acpi event or via cron
[19:23] <marshwallow> nacc: Maybe Robin___'s writing to other user's files. Or bad permissions.
[19:23] <Robin___> thanks
[19:23] <Robin___> for help
[19:23] <nacc> marshwallow: then the sudo should be with cat
[19:23] <nacc> marshwallow: not seq.
[19:24] <brainwash> isene: try with DISPLAY=:0.0
[19:24] <nacc> marshwallow: also cat is not necessary at all
[19:24] <nacc> Robin___: --^ rather, sorry
[19:24] <marekw2143> hello, which file commander (with interface like Total Commander) would you advice for lubuntu user?
[19:25] <isene> brainwash: nope
[19:26] <isene> marekw2143: Try Ranger
[19:26] <brainwash> isene: then redirect the error output, and see why it fails
[19:26] <marekw2143> isene: seems that learning curve is quite sharp
[19:26] <brainwash> marekw2143: maybe spacefm
[19:27] <marekw2143> I'd like to install it and just use
[19:27] <brainwash> spacefm can do that
[19:28] <marekw2143> brainwash: you're developer of spacefm ? ;)
[19:28] <brainwash> nope
[19:29] <marekw2143> well, spacefm seems nice
[19:29] <marekw2143> how can I quickly copy from Panel 1 to Panel 3 ? :)
[19:29] <brainwash> I've never used it
[19:30] <brainwash> only know its name and how it looks like
[19:30] <brainwash> :P
[19:30] <isene> brainwash: I got this as output:
[19:30] <isene> No protocol specified
[19:30] <marekw2143> and you use Ranger ?
[19:30] <marekw2143> ;)
[19:30] <oerheks> marekw2143, mc - midnight commander clone is nice, in terminal
[19:30] <oerheks> !info mc
[19:30] <isene> xset :  unable to open display ":0.0"
[19:31] <marekw2143> okok, i'll stay with spacefm a bit
[19:31] <marekw2143> thanks all
[19:31] <brainwash> isene: find the right display then
[19:31] <isene> brainwash: How? And why the 'No protocol specified'?
[19:32] <ioria> isene, echo $DISPLAY
[19:34] <isene> ioria: Gives ':0' - but when I change it accordingly, I still get: 'unable to open display ":0"'
[19:38] <isene> brainwash: So, :0 seems to be the correct display (from echo $DISPLAY), but still can't open it... the script is running as root, is that an issue?
[19:40] <ioria> isene, a primitive way to act would be scan (with while) /proc/acpi/button/lid/*/state and  if diff from open run your script .. (lock, gnome-screensaver-command -l, or  dpms force off  command)
[19:40] <EriC^^> isene: if your trying to use the display on the same machine you need to run "xhost +local:" as the user
[19:43] <isene> EriC^^: So I would simply add 'xhost +local:' as a separate line in the lid_close.sh script?
[19:43] <EriC^^> isene: why is the lid_close.sh script running as root in the first place?
[19:44] <EriC^^> isene: how are you getting it to run?
[19:45] <isene> Because it comes from the /etc/acpi/events/lid_lm pointing to /etc/acpi/lidevent.sh (see http://dpaste.com/1Y5ZS0F)
[19:47] <isene> I am guessing that root cannot open the display, so how do I get the script to run as my user?
[19:48] <EriC^^> isene: are you trying with cron right now or the first method?
[19:48] <isene> The first method
[19:48] <isene> But tried with cron with same result...
[19:49] <EriC^^> cron needs DISPLAY=:0 before the script
[19:49] <EriC^^> isene: you tried the first method with "export DISPLAY=:0" ?
[19:49] <isene> EriC^^: Or just on a separate line in the script before 'xset dpms force off'?
[19:50] <EriC^^> isene: yeah i think that would work too
[19:50] <EriC^^> isene: another idea would be to set the brightness to 0 i guess
[19:51] <isene> EriC^^: Yes, tried the first methid with the export. Script error output gives: 'No protocol specified' and 'xset:  unable to open display ":0"'
[19:51] <EriC^^> actually no, that would require setting it back to what it was when you open the lid
[19:51] <brainwash> alternatively, you could use xss-lock to run your command when a lid close event occurs. xss-lock is run as normal user, and could be added to your autostart apps
[19:53] <EriC^^> isene: in the script try "whoami >> /tmp/scriptlog"
[19:53] <brainwash> well, actually a suspend event (but suspend does not work in your case)
[19:53] <EriC^^> and echo $DISPLAY >> /tmp/scriptlog
[19:54] <brainwash> but DISPLAY isn't set
[19:54] <kaosine> ok stupid question, but how do I run my init file for a webserver? I know it had something to do with ssh for some odd reason but not the full thing to run it now
[19:55] <nullbyte_> how can i get an ip from a facebook user
[19:55] <brainwash> you ask the user
[19:55] <nacc> kaosine: can you rephrase? "init file for a webserver"?
[19:55] <nacc> nullbyte_: that's not an ubuntu support topic
[19:56] <kaosine> @nacc like a file that has several commands to run to get the server running(mongo, apache, mysql, etc)
[19:57] <nacc> kaosine: so you have a script that configures all of those services?
[19:57] <nacc> kaosine: i still don't really understand what you're asking
[19:57] <EriC^^> isene: you could do echo 0 > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight and set it back with another script that runs when you open the lid
[19:58] <kaosine> well it tells them to run so I don't have to....I'm having a massive brain fart trying to remember how to use it since it stayed running until I had to restart my computer just now
[19:59] <nacc> kaosine: so you do have a script?
[19:59] <nacc> kaosine: and you just want to run it?
[19:59] <kaosine> yes, just forgot how XD
[19:59] <nacc> kaosine: /path/to/script
[19:59] <nacc> kaosine: presuming it's executable
[20:00] <isene> EriC^^: That's an interesting idea - as I'm already running Light to change screen brightness.
[20:01] <kaosine> @nacc it is executable or at least it was, it's just a file titled init with a #!/bin/bash line at the top basically
[20:01] <nacc> kaosine: ok, so /path/to/init then
[20:01] <kaosine> ok...found the history command it was sudo sh initfile
[20:01] <kaosine> XD
[20:02] <marekw2143> maybe you know - how can I install gdb on ubuntu 16.04 ?
[20:04] <EriC^> kaosine: if it starts with #!/bin/bash you should use sudo bash initfile
[20:04] <nacc> marekw2143: sudo apt install gdb
[20:04] <kaosine> sudo sh is what I've been using though, worked pretty well until I forgot it
[20:04] <isene> EriC^: Genius! Got it working with 'light -O; light -S 0' in lid_close.sh and 'light -I' in lid_open.sh (-O saves brightness, -I restores it from the saved value) - and it works regardless of who (root or me) runs it.
[20:05] <EriC^> kaosine: you've been lucky, some bash stuff don't work in sh, or you haven't noticed the errors it was making
[20:05] <EriC^> isene: nice
[20:06] <isene> Thanks everyone, case closed :-)
[20:07] <kaosine> EriC^: well I haven't gotten any beyond me not setting home for mysql apparently....which I don't know why I have that installed now since I've been using mongo since that's what node likes apparently
[20:09] <marekw2143> nacc: it writes "'gdb' has no installation candidate ...
[20:09] <marekw2143> so I'm wondering that I have some mess with apt-get, as 'gdb' seems to be very popular and 'standard' package
[20:20] <nacc> marekw2143: what version of ubuntu?
[20:26] <marekw2143> 16.04
[20:26] <marekw2143> nacc: after removing "strange" entries in sources.list.d gdb installed
[20:26] <nacc> marekw2143: yeah, that's good
[20:26] <nacc> marekw2143: strange, how?
[20:27] <marekw2143> nacc: by strange I mean which caused errors in "apt udpate"
[20:29] <thyriaen> when i start radeon-profile ( https://github.com/marazmista/radeon-profile ) it does not open the window anymore as it used to but just create a icon in the idicator bar - any ideas ? ( i know this isn't the correct spot to ask but i'd thought id give it a go )
[20:31] <oerheks> .
[20:32] <toothe> anyone successfully get systemtap working?
[20:36] <ghost-287> hello, can someone tell me if this directory is present on ubuntu : /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[20:37] <nacc> ghost-287: it's a file, not a directory
[20:38] <ghost-287> nacc,ah yeah ... so directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[20:39] <toothe> systemtap is broken on Ubuntu
[20:39] <toothe> basically, it has not been updated in a while - and the kernel source has since updated.
[20:39] <toothe> so, its attempting to compile against newer kernel headers, which is causing a failure.
[20:40] <nacc> toothe: do you mean with 4.10 o 16.04 or soethig?
[20:40] <toothe> 16.04 (I think)
[20:40] <toothe> yes, just checked.
[20:40] <nacc> 4.10 on 16.04, sorry
[20:40] <toothe> I have run into this problem on a separate issue with vmware.
[20:41] <toothe> In short, the kernel function get_user_pages() changed.
[20:41] <toothe> systemtap dyamically compiles some C code against the kernel headers, but since the kernel headers themselves changed, its producing broken code.
[20:41] <toothe> the solution is to update systemtap
[20:41] <toothe> but the latest package is 2 years old.
[20:42] <toothe> maybe I can submit a bug report?
[20:43] <brainwash> you certainly should do that
[20:46] <nacc> toothe: yes, file a report
[20:46] <nacc> there was one when 4.4 went in
[20:46] <nacc> probably each hwe needs a systemtap update
[20:46] <toothe> err...I can't figure uot how to submit a bug report from the ubuntu documentation heh. I created a Launchpad account. I see when *not* to submit a bug. But no "okay, if you meet these conditinos, click here" type stuff...
[20:47] <toothe> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[20:48] <toothe> yeah, I see a page for everything *but* click here to submit a bug or the like. Weird.
[20:48] <nacc> toothe: ubuntu-bug <pkgname>
[20:49] <toothe> err...I'm currently not on that machine. darn.
[20:49] <toothe> I'm ssh'ing into it.
[20:49] <nacc> or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemtap/+filebug/
[20:49] <nacc> (which is directly linked from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemtap)
[20:51] <toothe> sorry, I'm a little jumpy (and angry)
[20:51] <nacc> toothe: np, wasn't chastising, just showing where it is
[20:52] <toothe> I know I know, but I was being rude myself
[20:52] <toothe> and demanding - I legit apologize. I'm quite tired/sleepy :)
[20:52] <nacc> toothe: no worries, there's been plenty worse here :)
[20:56] <ghost-287> is this command pose problem "  sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/lock  "
[20:57] <ghost-287> *do
[20:57] <nacc> ghost-287: -r isn't relevant since it's a file
[20:59] <ghost-287> nacc, https://askubuntu.com/questions/15433/unable-to-lock-the-administration-directory-var-lib-dpkg-is-another-process
[20:59] <nacc> ghost-287: nowhere that i see on that page, does it say to use -r
[21:00] <TheNH813> All right, I'm wondering why fsck runs for 5 minutes every time I reboot.
[21:00] <toothe> reported!
[21:00] <TheNH813> It's unacceptable because I need much faster restarts.
[21:01] <ghost-287> nacc, :D i saw that in another
[21:01] <ghost-287> but u are right no need
[21:01] <TheNH813> It started after a removed a couple Soft-RAID arrays.
[21:02] <TheNH813> I already erased the entries from /etc/fstab, so I don't know why it's trying to check the unexistant partitions.
[21:02] <TheNH813> Is there any other config file besides /etc/fstab I need to look for? I properly removed it using mdadm.
[21:09] <TheNH813> Anyone around? Otherwise I'l just disable fsck from running entirely till I fix this.
[21:09] <nacc> TheNH813: do you have a /forcefsck or somethng similar?
[21:10] <TheNH813> Not that I know of.
[21:10] <TheNH813> Let me check
[21:11] <TheNH813> I don't see any /forcefsck in either /boot/grub/grub.cfg or /etc/default/grub
[21:12] <TheNH813> I think the problem is that fsck still thinks the drives I removed exist.
[21:12] <TheNH813> There's no entries for them in /etc/fstab, I made sure of it.
[21:13] <TheNH813> nacc: So, what should I look for? Just perform cat on every file in /etc and grep for the uuid?
[21:15] <oerheks> TheNH813, did you remove the superblock as well? mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sdX
[21:15] <TheNH813> The drives have had their entire partition tables wiped.
[21:16] <TheNH813> nacc: One of the drives is no longer physically present, and the others have been completely overwritten and have new partitions with data on them.
[21:17] <oerheks> dpkg-reconfigure mdadm  perhaps.. i am not sure
[21:17] <TheNH813> Not a bad idea.
[21:17] <TheNH813> I'l give that a try
[21:17] <TheNH813> Won't hurt as I don't have any RAID arrays on this machine anymore.
[21:17] <oerheks> true
[21:18] <oerheks> TheNH813, else a silly thingy: go into your bios, do nothing, let it scan itself, and exit with save..
[21:18] <oerheks> maybe your bios is giving a faulty number of drives
[21:19] <TheNH813> Hmmmm.... can't be.
[21:19] <TheNH813> I only used software raid, and I have legacy boot currently disabled.
[21:21] <TheNH813> So, BIOS isn't going to be doing anything to the boot process.
[21:21] <TheNH813> And the UEFI wasn't aware of any data on those disks, just the boot drive.
[21:21] <TheNH813> Because I don't think UEFI can read linux-raid partitions or reiserfs.
[21:22] <TheNH813> Gonna reboot now and see if clearing out mdadm's config did anything.
[21:23] <oerheks> I have seen funny situations without entering the bios adding a drive.. oh
[21:29] <delinquentme> Has anyone in here gotten HDMI sound ouput working with ubuntu 16.04 through a GEFORCE card?
[21:57] <nkz> hey, how do I mount sd card in my laptop? It doesn't show in fdisk -l, but it does show in log of dmesg. What to do? It shows in windows?
[22:00] <oerheks> nkz, depends what filesystem, exfat?
[22:00] <nkz> oerheks: idk, whatever is on linux
[22:00] <nkz> android
[22:00] <nkz> not linux, my bad
[22:02] <oerheks> it might be YAFFS2
[22:03] <oerheks> you would need to build something like this https://github.com/ehlers/unyaffs
[22:04] <nkz> thanks
[22:04] <oerheks> or the google code https://code.google.com/archive/p/yaffs2utils/
[22:05] <oerheks> never handled this myself, so good luck!
[22:06] <vlt> nkz: `blkid`?
[22:07] <nacc> oerheks: fwiw, unyaffs is packaged
[22:07] <nacc> oerheks: but doesn't do what most people expect it only works (per its own description, not my experience) on mkyaffs2image's
[22:08] <oerheks> yaffs2 is new to me, maye nkz is reading this
[22:09] <oerheks> !info unyaffs
[22:14] <genio> with v17, is there a good way to disable the touch screen on my laptop? I find it to be more troublesome than helpful
[22:14] <genio> if I xinput disable it, the entire OS locks up
[22:15] <jiffe> so how can I tell what is updating the apt lists directory?
[22:16] <jiffe> I presume its apt-get update but I need to know whats calling that
[22:21] <oerheks> jiffe, 'apt update' updates the lists, apt upgrade downloads and installs the updates.
[22:21] <nacc> genio: iirc, there is a generic conf file that controls this?
[22:21] <nacc> genio: something like /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf
[22:21] <nacc> genio: i think you can tell the touchscreen section to nont match
[22:22] <nacc> genio: to be clear, that doesn't disable your touchscreen, per se, it just leaves it unconfigured
[22:24] <jiffe> oerheks: I have a nagios check to see if there are critical updates and I also have unattended-updates enabled.  It seems something is doing an apt update as the system is aware there are updates available, but the timestamps on the files don't match the unattended-upgrades run
[22:24] <jiffe> so I need to find out what is running it to turn it off
[22:25] <oerheks> oh, that is a complete different question
[22:27] <jiffe> not really, I need to find out whats running apt/apt-get update
[22:27] <oerheks> yes, really.
[22:27] <oerheks> anacron, i guess anacron i guess https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutoWeeklyUpdateHowTo
[22:28] <oerheks> check cron for this line or simular 0 4  * * * root test -x /usr/sbin/cron-apt && /usr-sbin/cron-apt
[22:29] <jiffe> find /etc/cron* -type f | xargs grep apt only comes up with /etc/cron.daily/apt-compat
[22:31] <Bashing-om> jiffe: Unattended-updates is triggered by a daily cronjob: /etc/cron.daily/apt-compat .
[22:31] <jiffe> yeah and I have unattended-upgrades turned on but this looks like something else
[22:32] <jiffe> I'm going to disable my nagios check on one of my machines to see if it happens to be that.  I've looked at the source and it doesn't look like it is, but I don't know what else it could be
[22:33] <jiffe> there's been a critical update the past 3 days that unattended-upgrades handles, but the apt update in the middle of the day triggers a page
[23:35] <Fretegi> afternoon folks
[23:36] <Fretegi> anyone have any guidance on how to setup infinality-ultimate?  found a few different guides but none of those for ultimate seem to address 16.04


[19:14] <Xeta> Hi! Is it possible to make upstart-job start an application in the foreground? I want my process to be run on startup and be the first thing the user sees.
[19:16] <xnox> upstart view of "foreground" is quite different =) can you describe your application? is it graphical or terminal one?
[19:26] <Xeta> It is a fullscreen video + audio player
[19:26] <Xeta> But it might take some keyboard input as well
[19:30] <xnox> Xeta: if you are using saucy or later. I suggest for a default (non-root capable) user account to auto-login. And then you can auto-launch a graphical application on user-session login.
[19:31] <xnox> Xeta: the locations you can put the user-session upstart job is at ~/.config/upstart/, or more global locations (admin path /etc/xdg/upstart/, packaging path /usr/share/upstart/sessions/)
[19:31] <xnox> see http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ for further details and manpages, man init and related manpages from there.
[19:35] <Xeta> Ok cool, thanks xnox ill check it out
[19:37] <Xeta> Or hm, I would actually like the app to be started as root and not require the user to login.
[19:37] <Xeta> We are making kinda like a media box (with the rpi) where the user shouldn't have to login and our app should be the only thing runing in the foreground
[19:38] <Xeta> How could i achieve this? :)
[19:42] <Xeta> Im my current config im more or less just doing "exec /myapp". And it is kinda working, the video ourput from my app is shown after startup, but so is the normal prompt to login as a user.
[19:43] <Xeta> So hm, maybe my question is: How do I hide the login-prompt after boot so that it just shows the video output from my application?
[22:31] <xnox> Xeta: you don't want your app to run as root, create a user account to run your app, password-less and set lightdm to autologin.
[22:31] <xnox> Xeta: and auto-start your app from there.
[22:32] <xnox> Xeta: or look at e.g. ubiquity, it start on starting lightdm, and if one "quits" ubiquity one is taken lightdm (normal or auto login)
[22:32] <xnox> but it takes care to drop priviliges.
[23:52] <SegFaultAX> Is it possible to make upstart play nice with processes that change pids when reloading themselves?
[23:52] <SegFaultAX> It's kinda sorta but not quite like a restart.