[13:46] <ubuntu824> It only lets me make a new partition at 1 MiB
[13:49] <k1l_> ubuntu824: where?
[13:50] <ubuntu824> In Gparted
[13:50] <k1l_> can you show a screenshot on imgur and show the link here?
[13:50] <ubuntu824> Yeah
[13:51] <ubuntu824> I'm sure it's something stupid that I'm missing, since I'm still trying to install the OS
[13:52] <ubuntu824> http://imgur.com/PeYazKn
[13:52] <shredding> I have a deployment script (namely a capistrano app) that executes from the command line. It has a dedicated user named deployer. Now I want to trigger deployment via a webhook, but i fail to switch from nginx www-data user to the deployer user.
[13:52] <shredding> Does anyone know how to make that happen?
[13:53] <k1l_> ubuntu824: so what do you want to do now?
[13:53] <jpds> shredding: Have nginx write to a file and than have a deployer crontab that checks for the existance of that file
[13:53] <k1l_> ubuntu824: the disk is in usage from sda1, sda2 and sda3. so there is only 1MB of free space at the end.
[13:53] <ubuntu824> Basically, I want to use the unused 18.8 gigs of space I have to make room to install ubuntu. But because it's currently in use, I think from windows, I can't
[13:54] <shredding> jpds: That's a good idea.
[13:55] <k1l_> ubuntu824: i suggest to resize the windows partitions from inside windows. in the disk settings somewhere in the systemsettings there is a program to resize (shrink) that partitions.
[13:55] <ubuntu824> I think I can do that. I guess I should shrink it by about 18 gigs or so?
[13:56] <k1l_> ubuntu824: but you could do it from gparted too. you first need to right click on the sda2 and check "unmount". then rightclick on the sda2 again and resize it (shrink it). then yu need to move sda3 to the left side so all unallocated space is at the end. then you can create the sda4 ext4 partition.
[13:57] <ubuntu824> it can't unmount sda2
[13:59] <ZeBaws> Hello!
[14:17] <LonelyDanbo> well the USB installer works, but now it's giving me a warning about installing in UEFI mode instead, and I need to research whether or not this will modify my boot loader to no longer allow me to boot this installation that's probably created in Legacy mode.
[14:19] <LonelyDanbo> why is every problem I run into causing me excruciating anxiety?
[14:19] <SAKABA> just deal with it
[14:20] <LonelyDanbo> I think I should take a break. I feel like I'm about to pass out.
[14:21] <SAKABA> i love ubuntu so much OMG!
[14:22] <jost_> I have a machine that cannot be booted by a live CD or stick. However, I need  to resize the partition that is mounted as /. Can I do that, maybe by triggering the resize on the next reboot or something?
[14:23] <jost_> Risky operations are not a problem, since the machine is a VM and I have a backup of it
[14:23] <teward> jost_: you can boot a LiveCD ISO on the VM... maybe the gparted live disk based on Debian
[14:24] <g2000> jost_: All VM's should support isos...
[14:24] <teward> jost_: or do you not actually control the VM?
[14:24] <jost_> teward: I do not have a screen attached to the hypervisor, it is a remote machine
[14:24] <jost_> I have a root shell on the hypervisor though
[14:24] <jost_> (virtualbox)
[14:27] <g2000> jost_: What about "VBoxManage controlvm <VM> dvdattach <FILE>"?
[14:27] <ubuntu194> I got the partition room, but I still am capped out on the number of primary partitions. what's the difference between a logical and an extended partition?
[14:27] <jost_> g2000: that would work, but I'd need a way to log into the live system
[14:28] <g2000> jost_: I see, but afaik virtualbox supports RDP connections to the VM.
[14:29] <rk> hey all
[14:29] <rk> im noob on ubuntu
[14:30] <rk> anyone can help me for first thing using ubuntu?
[14:30] <mgolisch> jost_: vbox has vrdp
[14:30] <rosesarered> ..
[14:31] <mgolisch> if you have the extensionpack installed atleast
[14:31] <cfhowlett> !manual | rk
[14:31] <mgolisch> jost_: when enabled you can rdp into the guest console
[14:32] <mgolisch> jost_: also without the extensionpack it has vnc atleast i belive
[14:38] <Qantourisc> Package for "man" ?
[14:42] <g2000> Qantourisc: Maybe you are searching for "man-db".
[14:42] <Qantourisc> g2000: yes sorry found already, i just got confused by the www-browser but it was suggested, not installing
[14:43] <g2000> Qantourisc: kk
[14:46] <clocky> HI there can you pls tell me how to check if port 4444 open in my machine or not  using the terminal ??
[14:47] <Qantourisc> clocky: i assume listening ? netstat -ln | grep 444
[14:47] <Qantourisc> +4
[14:48] <clocky> Qantourisc : i got no output indicating the status  ?
[14:48] <Qantourisc> the not listing :)
[14:49] <Qantourisc> clocky: without the grep to see all (for an example)
[14:50] <OerHeks> no output = not an open port
[14:50] <nimbiotics> I have an Ubuntu 14.04LTS VBox. A while ago I accessed it via ssh with Putty and all went well but now I cannot access my ubuntu VBox. I enter my passwords, it plays the music indicating I'm logged in, clears the screen and then goes back to the login screen. I can still access my VBox via ssh with Putty, but I cannot access it directly. Any ideas how to fix this? TIA!
[14:50] <Qantourisc> speaking of witch: why does /etc/init.d/ssh restart do nothing ?
[14:51] <clocky> Qantourisc : you mean " netstat -ln "
[14:51] <OerHeks> try: sudo service sshd restart
[14:51] <Qantourisc> clocky: yep
[14:51] <Qantourisc> OerHeks: I am root
[14:52] <Qantourisc> OerHeks: service sshd works yes
[14:52] <Qantourisc> but imo it should mention its not working anymore
[15:05] <Qantourisc> Minium recommended required for ubunut 5GB
[15:05] <Qantourisc> actually used ?
[15:05] <Qantourisc> 538MB....
[15:05] <Qantourisc> ok
[15:11] <dodo> ciao
[15:11] <Leidenfrost> Hello guys, I'm looking for osx way of running apps in my desktop. Is there a way to run apps "windowless mode"?   We are global after all.
[15:17] <Lurchy> forgive my noob question but I am wondering best way to move a directory to my var/www/ when I dont have root accessin this ubuntu-desktop I am using..I suspect I created this non-root user account for day-to-day use
[15:18] <Lurchy> should I move using command line?
[15:18] <Lurchy> sudo?
[15:18] <Lurchy> cant copy dir using gui
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> Lurchy  yes, sudo mv
[15:19] <Lurchy> ok...
[15:19] <squeakytoy> Hey I have a newbie question. I have moved from files from Windows to Linux via Dropbox, but I am getting "permission denied". What chmod command is preferred to recursively just give me permission on all files?
[15:19] <OerHeks> Lurchy, normally we advise to make that user part of the www-data group, to move without sudo
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> squeakytoy  try chown your-user:your-user
[15:20] <squeakytoy> isnt there a 777 that just puts all permissions?
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> squeakytoy  777 is dangerous, use 755
[15:21] <Lurchy> OerHeks....give my non-root user permissions to edit files in /var/www/ via the GUI
[15:21] <Lurchy> ?
[15:21] <drkjstr> Also, there is a -R switch to do it recursively, if there are child folder and contents
[15:22] <OerHeks> Lurchy, yes, but you need sudo to do that >> http://superuser.com/questions/646062/granting-write-permissions-to-www-data-group
[15:22] <squeakytoy> thanks
[15:22] <Lurchy> ok
[15:22] <Lurchy> obviously
[15:29] <Lurchy> yay..cmd line stuff is so easy if you know what they do!
[15:29] <Lurchy> trick is knowing the command...lol
[15:29] <Lurchy> ok...next trick up my sleeve...getting my database working
[15:30] <Lurchy> ill be back
[15:30] <OerHeks> Lurchy, have fun
[15:42] <kadiro> hello all
[15:45] <mete_> guys
[15:45] <mete_> I need help
[15:46] <mete_> about installing ubuntu touch#
[15:46] <cfhowlett> !touch | mete_
[15:48] <counterglitch> hey everyone!
[15:49] <counterglitch> I'm having an issue with vsftpd on trusty, i'm using the default config and when I try to log-in from a windows client I get "the session was terminated", similar error from a Mint 17 client
[15:55] <ioria> counterglitch, con you login from your trusty box ?
[16:01] <Nectar> Is 25gb a fair amount for a ubuntu partition? thanks.
[16:01] <OerHeks> Nectar, sure.
[16:01] <cfhowlett> Nectar, quite generous actually
[16:01] <DrRoach> Nectar: Yeah
[16:02] <Nectar> i might go for 20 though.
[16:02] <mcphail> Nectar: depends on what you want to do with it
[16:02] <Nectar> mcphail: nothing heavy
[16:02] <baizon> Nectar: i have 15GB for / and 25 for /home
[16:03] <Nectar> baizon: not exactly sure how to do that. im new.
[16:04] <mcphail> Nectar: don't split / and /home unless you need to
[16:04] <Nectar> i only have 1 harddrive, and aad
[16:04] <Nectar> ssd*
[16:05] <Nectar> If i uninstall will anything be left behind, like the bootloader?
[16:06] <Amoz> Nectar, if you remove the partitions the MBR will still be there
[16:06] <Nectar> Amoz: easy to remove?
[16:06] <Amoz> if you have a Windows installation you'll have to manually recover the bootloader in MBR
[16:07] <Amoz> Nectar, usually you don't "uninstall" an OS
[16:07] <Nectar> Amoz: well, format the space.
[16:07] <kadiro> I have a question but i'm sure it is out of this channel ( about other distribution )
[16:07] <sapath> I cann't install synaptic under ubuntu mate 14.04
[16:07] <Amoz> kadiro, what dist?
[16:08] <Amoz> sapath, describe "can't"
[16:08] <OerHeks> kadiro, then don't ask here :-)
[16:08] <kadiro> Amoz: thk's for replay it is mint
[16:08] <kadiro> thk's OerHeks
[16:08] <Amoz> kadiro, if it's more related to Mint then #mint
[16:08] <cfhowlett> !mint | kdavyd
[16:08] <cfhowlett> kadiro, this ^^
[16:08] <sapath> I am getting errors like this:
[16:08] <sapath> sapath@sapath-SVE11115EHB:~$ sudo apt-get install synaptic
[16:08] <sapath> Reading package lists... Done
[16:08] <sapath> Building dependency tree
[16:08] <sapath> Reading state information... Done
[16:08] <sapath> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[16:09] <Lurchy> Nectar> Are you trying to create a dual doot system from a single drive or something like that?  what is your goal?
[16:09] <khax> lol
[16:09] <kadiro> yes Amoz i know but still i ask in #mint channel in about more then 7 days without any answer
[16:09] <Amoz> kadiro, they have forums as well
[16:09] <OerHeks> kadiro, didn't we have been here before, you banned, complaining, and not wanted to return to their irc channel ?
[16:09] <cfhowlett> kadiro, then you're using the wrong distro.
[16:09] <Amoz> sapath, use pastebin
[16:09] <kadiro> cfhowlett: surely
[16:09] <Nectar> Lurchy: a duel boot on the same ssd. Windows already installed, about to install ubuntu.
[16:10] <kadiro> yes OerHeks right
[16:10] <Amoz> Nectar, that will overwrite the windows bootloader
[16:10] <OerHeks> !paste | sapath
[16:10] <kadiro> thk's guys anyway
[16:10] <Amoz> Nectar, so if you remove the Ubuntu partitions in the future, you'll have to manually recover the Windows bootloader to get Windows to boot succesfully.
[16:10] <Amoz> kadiro, PM me
[16:11] <sapath> Amoz, ubottu Yeah, okay sure,
[16:11] <sapath> http://pastebin.com/a5KSWY4c
[16:11] <kadiro> thank you Amoz
[16:11] <Amoz> sapath, what dist ? have you ran apt-get update without errors ?
[16:11] <Nectar> amoz: sounds tricky.
[16:12] <sapath> i am on ubuntu mate 14.04
[16:12] <OerHeks> sapath, update & upgrade before installing something, might help
[16:12] <Lurchy> Nectar...I would recommen you boot from diff drives...makes life real easy....otherwise you gotta use a MBR manager of some kind...
[16:12] <Amoz> Nectar, well, usually you only boot the Windows DVD and try to "recover boot"
[16:13] <Lurchy> dont you got an old 100 gb platter HD laying around?  or a usb drive?
[16:13] <sapath> OerHeks, I already tried apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade, and apt-get upgrade
[16:13] <sapath> Nothing seems to fix my problem
[16:13] <ioria> sapath, apt-cache policy synaptic ?
[16:13] <Lurchy> brb
[16:14] <Nectar> Lurchy: only got one drive. :(
[16:15] <sapath> Amoz, this the result of apt-get update http://pastebin.com/CZr9iK0n
[16:15] <OerHeks> sapath, any PPA's installed ?
[16:16] <sapath> ioria, tis is what I am getting. http://pastebin.com/GZ3D2BUb
[16:16] <sapath> OerHerks, None so far.
[16:16] <sapath> Oerheks, None.
[16:17] <sapath> Oerherks, Oh wait. There's ubuntu mate's ppa and libre office ppa.
[16:17] <ioria> sapath, you are full of ppa
[16:17] <sapath> ioria, what's that?
[16:17] <mindwarrior> what's what
[16:18] <OerHeks> sapath, oke, then maybe your mirror is not up2date, change it to main please and try again
[16:18] <sapath> Oerheks, I am using the main server.
[16:19] <Merdrod> hi
[16:19] <Merdrod> I have actually some issue connecting my Nokia Lumia 620 with my ubuntu
[16:20] <sapath> Merdrod, what issues. I too used that phone under ubuntu.
[16:20] <Merdrod> sapath, First when I connected it, I had an error message like "Can't handle files"
[16:20] <Merdrod> Now, it's "L'obtention de la liste des dossiers a échoué: -1: Unspecified error"
[16:21] <OerHeks> sapath, you have a pgp key badsig too. that could be because the mirror is not synced. or dirty lists. > sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get update
[16:21] <sapath> Merdrod, I scratched my head too much over it, but could never get it connected.
[16:21] <sapath> From what I know windows phone can't be connected under ubuntu.
[16:21] <JayBau> Merdrod: I had the same error on my Samsung phone, but I can actually see the contents of my phone when launching Nautilus
[16:22] <Merdrod> sapath, Yeah it was I think too. I just came her with hope ;'(
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> sapath: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 437D05B5 3E5C1192
[16:23] <sapath> could you please write that message again.
[16:23] <sapath> My screen just automatically cleared.
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Merdrod: when you last unplugged it, did you use the safe removal feature in the OS before physically unplugging it?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> sapath: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 437D05B5 3E5C1192
[16:24] <Merdrod> ActionParsnip, No idea at all.
[16:24] <Merdrod> "Désolé, impossible d'afficher tout le contenu de « RM-835|NOKIA Lumia 610 » : L'obtention de la liste des dossiers a échoué: -1: Unspecified error"
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Merdrod: its a concious thing
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Merdrod: has it worked in ANY system before, in any OS?
[16:25] <Merdrod> ActionParsnip : Yeah on windows, with their shitty app.
[16:25] <Merdrod> "Zune"
[16:25] <Merdrod> If i remember
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Merdrod: and when you wanted to disconnect it, do you use the safe remove feature in the system tray before unplugging it?
[16:25] <sapath> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/eRNhk5pY
[16:25] <Merdrod> ActionParsnip : It was one year ago, I don't really remember. But I guess that I didn't.
[16:26] <sapath> This is wha I'm getting.
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Merdrod: wonder why its the first thing I ask....
[16:26] <Merdrod> ActionParsnip, It can really lock the files ?
[16:26] <Merdrod> Because I'm sure I can have access with window
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Merdrod: plug the device into a WIndows system and let the file system mount or whatever it does. Then use the icon in the system try to safely remove the device. When you are told, unplug it physically and I bet its fine
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Merdrod: why do you think Microsoft (and Ubunrtu) put that feature in the OS!!?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Merdrod: the final unmount means the files and caches are sync'd otherwise the filesystem is marked as dirty
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Merdrod: but few use it and get issues, so its the first thing I ask and the answer is nearly always "no I don't use safe remove"
[16:29] <Merdrod> ActionParsnip, Trying
[16:29] <sapath> ActionParsnip, This is what I'm getting after running apt-get update http://pastebin.com/U7cLDDh7
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> sapath: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> sapath: my own script (based on commands from the official Ubuntu pages) to untangle dpkg
[16:33] <sapath> ActionParsnip, What is supposed to happen after this?
[16:41] <Merdrod> re
[16:41] <Merdrod> Don't rmember the pseudo of the two people who tried to help me
[16:41] <sapath> Haha. Merdrod, that's me and an other guy who was also helping me.
[16:42] <sapath> Merdrod, did that solve your issue.
[16:42] <squinty> Merdrod, actionparsnip
[16:42] <BotchlaB> Merdrod, from logs, seems to be Merdrod and actionparsnip.
[16:42] <sapath> Could someone help me also.
[16:42] <Merdrod> sapath : No. I boot on windows, don't want to lose more time
[16:43] <Merdrod> sapath: But I just wanna thank you
[16:44] <sapath> Merdrod, NP. This is what opensource community is all about.
[16:44] <squinty> sapath,  did you run that script that Actionparsnip said to download?
[16:45] <OerHeks> sapath, if that script from Actionparsnip didn; t work, remove corrupted lists and try again:  sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get update
[16:45] <squinty> sapath,  it clears out the sources list cache and the attempts another update and upgrade. if it worked then you shouldn't see any errors
[16:45] <OerHeks> if the keys were bad, you would have a huge issue.
[16:45] <sapath> squinty, I did. It just takes me into an infinite loop of apt-get update an and apt-get upgrade
[16:46] <squinty> sapath, try OerHeks script to see if it cleared up the sources first
[16:47] <OerHeks> this command is part of that script too, so i wonder ..
[16:47] <sapath> OerHeks, squinty , i think this might working. On way.
[16:47] <OerHeks> that script from Actionparsnipperforms several updates and install -f commands, so that is oke
[16:48] <squinty> sapath,  that will update your sources listings.  if no errors then try upgrade  sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:48] <sapath> OerHeks, Doesn't work.
[16:49] <scornflakes> is there any way to make a mount in /etc/fstab not "required"? like if it can't do it, just quit and not bother waiting for it?
[16:49] <sapath> OerHeks, http://pastebin.com/x1kB45XG
[16:49] <squinty> sapath,  probably should paste the output from update to pastebin again then so others can see what is going wrong.  that last post had some spurious launchpad and ppa's i believe
[16:49] <sapath> squinty, sapath,  probably should paste the output from update to pastebin again then so others can see what is going wrong.  that last post had some spurious launchpad and ppa's i believe
[16:50] <sapath> squinty, sorry. http://pastebin.com/x1kB45XG
[16:50] <sapath> My keyboard is very crammed from what I usually use.
[16:52] <OerHeks> sapath, on what linux version is this ?
[16:52] <sapath> I'm on ubuntu mate 14.04
[16:52] <sapath> OerHeks, Linux sapath-SVE11115EHB 3.16.0-33-generic #44~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 13 10:33:29 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:54] <OerHeks> sapath, can you paste.ubuntu.com the output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list and cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[16:56] <sapath> Oerherks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12008137/
[16:57] <sapath> OerHeks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12008144/
[16:59] <OerHeks> likely an PPA issue.
[17:00] <OerHeks> i asked earlier about ppa's, bu didn't get the answer after your denial.
[17:00] <squinty> sapath,  you also need to pastebin  the output of  cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[17:00] <OerHeks> use ppa-purge to remove them and return to the original packages, else seek help by the ppa maintainer
[17:01] <sapath> OerHeks, I'm sorry. I have not installed any ppa's but all the ppa's of ubuntu mate by defualt
[17:01] <OerHeks> that is the 2nd paste squinty
[17:01] <OerHeks> no, mate-dev is not default.
[17:01] <squinty> oh sorry  must have missed it
[17:02] <OerHeks> libreoffice, accessibilty, mate hwe2 ..
[17:03] <andschwa> besides running init or calling login, how can I most minimally populate /run/utmp?
[17:05] <squinty> sapath,   if you have Synaptics package manager, you can also use that to disable/remove ppa's
[17:05] <Amoz> sapath, one of your sourcelists are malformed
[17:05] <sapath> squinty, the whole point is installing synaptic
[17:05] <sapath> Guys, what could be a simple solution to my problem.
[17:05] <squinty> sapath,   hah  ok   so much for that idea then  lol
[17:06] <squinty> use ppa purge
[17:06] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[17:06] <sapath> I'm on ubuntu mate, so I'm not sure which ppa i should be removing.
[17:06] <OerHeks> or bug the mate-dev team :-P
[17:07] <Amoz> sapath, do you know how to edit files etc ?
[17:07] <sapath> Amoz, yeah pretty much.
[17:07] <sapath> Haha. Now, that's my only option. Oerherks
[17:07] <Amoz> sapath, one of the files in /etc/sources.list.d/ areborked
[17:07] <Amoz> are borked*
[17:07] <OerHeks> Amoz, we tried several things, this is server side, not client side
[17:07] <wileee> Amoz, They are getting top help, let them do the work.
[17:08] <OerHeks> mate-dev ppa, those can easily bork
[17:08] <Amoz> OerHeks, sorry, I misinterpreted the errors as sourcelist parse errors.
[17:09] <OerHeks> Amoz, i was thinking that too :-( and would be an easy fix with normal repos
[17:11] <OerHeks> nobody files a bug there, how would they know ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev
[17:12] <killer> hey im getting an error while cracking wifi paswords using reaver
[17:12] <sapath> OerHeks, I'm new to Launchpad Bug filing. Could you please do that?
[17:13] <rosesarered> hello
[17:13] <rosesarered> anyone can help me how to install itunes on ubuntu?
[17:13] <rosesarered> im noob on ubuntu
[17:14] <OerHeks> killer, hacking & cracking is offtopic here.
[17:14] <xangua> rosesarered: you're not getting iTunes, at least not in Linux
[17:14] <OerHeks> rosesarered, itunes in wine is no go.
[17:18] <JayBau> were you able to run MPC on wine?
[17:19] <rosesarered> xangua + oerheks = thx for info
[17:19] <rosesarered> can install itunes via wine btw?
[17:19] <xangua> 12:14 <OerHeks> rosesarered, itunes in wine is no go.
[17:20] <rosesarered> ohh..
[17:20] <xangua> Get a Windows install or ask Apple to support Linux
[17:20] <OerHeks> But if you find a way, please let us know !
[17:20] <rosesarered> okay,
[17:20] <rosesarered> im new in ubuntu
[17:21] <tracked> Itunes works with linux
[17:22] <tracked> Stop giving wrong info
[17:22] <OerHeks> tracked, prove it please?
[17:22] <rosesarered> tracked, how to install it? can help me dude?
[17:23] <tracked> Give me a few minutes im a little busy i just wanted to get that out there
[17:23] <JayBau> rosesarered: http://askubuntu.com/questions/414737/how-do-i-install-itunes-on-ubuntu
[17:23] <Nectar> I've been doing some research. If I install a second ssd will this take away the problem of the bllotloader being left behind if i format the ubuntu partition?
[17:24] <JayBau> rosesarered: http://askubuntu.com/questions/496733/does-itunes-work-well-on-ubuntu
[17:25] <wileee> Nectar, what your worried about is in the mbr, not an issue unless you use it as first read on powering on.
[17:25] <xangua> JayBau: you are aware that's iTunes 7 right?
[17:25] <wileee> Nectar, cleaning the mbr is not a good idea by the way.
[17:25] <rosesarered> jaybau, thx for info.. i will try it
[17:26] <wileee> Nectar, If this is uefi this boot is in a partition I believe.
[17:27] <wileee> err das boot heh
[17:27] <tracked> So itunes on ubuntu can be had with playonlinux or through wine. If you try to get it to work with wine it may be a pain.
[17:27] <xangua> tracked: 12:25 <xangua> JayBau: you are aware that's iTunes 7 right?
[17:27] <JayBau> xangua: nothing is "sure" to work for apps made for foreign OS, but wine can help for MS apps, although not at all time :)
[17:28] <tracked> Hmm give me a sec
[17:28] <Nectar> wileee, I dont understand
[17:28] <ObrienDave> install Win in a VM. then go for iTunes
[17:28] <squinty> wileee,  that's for window nein   :P
[17:29] <OerHeks> tracked, doubtfull, all those examples are older versions of itunes.
[17:30] <OerHeks> this was a way because of the xp-mode ..now itunes is growing up
[17:31]  * squinty read today that itunes is now illegal under new British laws.  please do not comment in this channel regarding this issue
[17:31] <tracked> What?
[17:31] <tgm4883> squinty: no it's not
[17:31] <squinty> see torrentfreak site
[17:32] <tgm4883> squinty: reputable source ;)
[17:32] <JayBau> squinty: look like they haven't found that they are illegal too
[17:32] <tracked> Wow
[17:32] <tracked> Under uk copyright law hahaha
[17:33] <Pici> !ot
[17:34] <marco_> how do i find what event has woken up my laptop from hibernation?
[17:34] <rosesarered> hmm..
[17:34] <Kion> marco_: check your log files
[17:34] <Kion> marco_: auth.log
[17:35] <Kion> marco_: or sys.log
[17:35] <ChurroLoco> Anybody know of any good IRC channels for linux game developers to talk shop?
[17:35] <auronandace> !alis | ChurroLoco
[17:35] <squinty> !alis
[17:35] <Nectar> If I install a new ssd, so if i wanted to remove ubuntu would i be left with the bootloader issue. or is non of this necessary?
[17:36] <ChurroLoco> Thanks
[17:36] <Amoz> Nectar, if you have a separate disk to use, that would solve the issue
[17:37] <Amoz> Nectar, just be very sure to *not* install the bootloader on the windows disk and ubuntu on the other disk
[17:37] <Nectar> Amoz> Is that all done in the gui Installation setup?
[17:37] <Amoz> Nectar, can you plug out the windows-disk during install?
[17:37] <auronandace> Nectar: you can choose where to install the bootloader in the gui setup
[17:38] <Nectar> Amoz: no
[17:38] <Nectar> btw, I dont have a seperate ssd, yey.
[17:38] <Nectar> yet.*
[17:38] <Amoz> Nectar, just make sure you detect which disk is sda and which one is sdb, and choose to install bootloader on the correct one
[17:39] <Amoz> Nectar, this is all under the assumption you have to disks ^
[17:39] <Amoz> two*
[17:39] <Nectar> I have one, but i will upgrade to two if it makes it easier.
[17:40] <Amoz> Nectar, if you have *one* disk, dualboot windows, and want to remove Ubuntu, this is what you'll have to do: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/32523/how-to-manually-repair-windows-7-boot-loader-problems/
[17:46] <b00b00> hello
[17:47] <b00b00> is there a way to know what is using specific thread in linux? i have thread with 100% cpu and want to know what is using it, thanks
[17:47] <marco_> my laptop wakes up from hibernation for no reason. Im on ubuntu 14.04 with asus x455L
[17:48] <adlid> hm
[17:48] <Nectar> So, if i am installing on a single ssd, by default would the bootloader install in the right place?
[17:48] <JayBau> b00b00: open a terminal $# top
[17:50] <b00b00> JayBau: top -H -p $(pgrep -d',' p_name) not so helpful, asked if i know what using it, not how to see
[17:50] <b00b00> like strace i mean
[17:51] <oberststen> Hello, I have this command to split a file into multiple files: awk 'NR%250==1{x="users-"++i;}{print > x}' users.txt but the problme is that I get this: awk: users-18 makes too many open files, how can I fix it?
[17:52] <DammitJim> how bad is it to set up a server with a cron job to run apt-get autoremove every week
[17:52] <JayBau> Nectar: make sure to partition your disk before doing that, I also found that Win7 32-bit can't be installed with 64 bit ubuntu 14.04. (atleast in my experience)
[17:52] <DammitJim> I just logged on to a couple of servers that have automatic critical update installs and the boot folder is full
[17:53] <Koyaanis> im installing ubuntu now
[17:53] <Koyaanis> you happy?
[17:53] <adlid> yup
[17:53] <Nectar> JayBau: as far as i remember partitions can be made in the ubuntu setup. is this correct?
[17:54] <aditya> yes
[17:54] <adlid> yes
[17:54] <Nectar> is that a yes to me?
[17:54] <shamurai> DammitJim, this should get you on the right track. https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/automatic-updates.html
[17:54] <aditya> yes for u
[17:54] <Nectar> ok. thats.
[17:54] <auronandace> DammitJim: maybe it would be better to have a script that runs after updates that checks how many kernels are installed and removes the oldest ones leaving x amount installed at any given time
[17:55] <JayBau> Nectar: yes, in my case, I installed Win7 first, then cleared up disk for what I need for Ubuntu
[17:55] <auronandace> DammitJim: i know fedora usually limits it to 3 most recent
[17:55] <DammitJim> thanks auronandace
[17:55] <DammitJim> shamurai, does your link take care of that?
[17:55] <Nectar> JayBau: Im doing the same.
[17:56] <shamurai> Yes there is a section to configure autoremove after updates
[17:56] <DammitJim> I don't see anything on it about removing older kernels
[17:56] <DammitJim> shamurai, do you mean AutocleanInterval?
[17:57] <shamurai> DammitJim, if you look at the file they referrence there are comments for configuring autoremove
[17:57] <shamurai> DammitJim, I have all my servers configured this way. Very easy maintenance.
[17:58] <DammitJim> ok, so Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-Unused-Dependencies "true";
[17:58] <DammitJim> is that what you are talking about?
[17:58] <shamurai> Yes, there should also be a section to do it on a schedule if you want.
[18:01] <DammitJim> shamurai, what do you mean by schedule?
[18:02] <DammitJim> I thought enabling this would take care of it on an automatic schedule basis
[18:02] <shamurai> It does but you can (if you want) say to do it at a specific time as well. Its not required though.
[18:04] <DammitJim> man, what a weird thing
[18:04] <DammitJim> I guess I'm going to have to salt it
[18:04] <shamurai> Salt it?
[18:05] <josharenson> PPA question. I'm getting this error http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12008529/ and I've read https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/UploadErrors but I don't understand how to increase the version number.
[18:05] <NGC3982> I have installed an older hard drive with ubuntu system files on it, on a new system as an external drive. I wish to copy my old Apache configuration to the new system. Can i simply copy the sites-default (and so forth) after installing Apache?
[18:07] <DammitJim> shamurai, I need to do this in a couple dozen servers
[18:07] <DammitJim> so, I'll have to use salt for configuration management
[18:08] <shamurai> Ah, definitely.
[18:08] <Ubntu909> help
[18:09] <Ubntu909> I installed lm-sensors and ran sudo sensors-detect and answered Yes to all the questions and it detects my CPU temperature wrong i believe.
[18:09] <DammitJim> shamurai, do I need to restart something when I edit the file or is that just called by cron?
[18:09] <Ubntu909> My laptop feels as hot as it does when the cpu gets to 70C but the sensors is saying its only 57C
[18:11] <Ubntu909> and a few minutes ago something scary happened.. lol well it scared me..
[18:11] <Ubntu909> I had firefox, youtube, terminal, and software center open, and all of a sudden it started to lag hugely
[18:12] <Ubntu909> I couldn't close stuff i had to force shutdown :(
[18:12] <shamurai> DammitJim, its not required but it couldn't hut ;). If you have to schedule maintenance windows then I would say your safe to not.
[18:12] <shamurai> *hurt
[18:12] <xangua> Ubntu909: were you using flash in the videos?
[18:13] <Ubntu909> No i was using youtube.com/html5
[18:13] <DammitJim> shamurai, no, I just mean... after I edit the file, what else do I need to do to activate it
[18:15] <mrbrdo> I have a weird “issue” (I’m using zsh btw) - when I type cd proxy (or cd pro and then tab, it will autocomplete into proxy), it puts me into “~bin” and pwd says /bin, I can do this no matter in which folder I am.. kinda worried that it’s a virus so trying to confirm. it doesn’t happen on my local machine
[18:16] <shamurai> Thats all you have to do. The unattended-upgrades package will simply start reading the new config.
[18:16] <Ubntu909> xangua wat caused the lag
[18:17] <Ubntu909> or freeze up
[18:19] <kadiro> i'm back
[18:20] <josharenson> figured it out, dch -i
[18:22] <Ubntu909> Anybody
[18:25] <shamurai> Ubntu909, what graphics card do you have?
[18:27] <kadiro> Ubntu909: i'm sorry i have problem about may be the same like you but me i have a black video with sound
[18:32] <Koyaanis1> ok guys this isnt cool
[18:32] <Koyaanis1> i tried installing ubuntu on my raid 0... i just selected the drive, then it gave me some bootloader fatal error, and asked me to install it somewhere else.. i choose the STRIPE again, then i rebooted and nothing happens
[18:33] <Koyaanis1> what do
[18:33] <stevessss> so.. any version of ubuntu defaults to awesome or blackbox or wmaker or somethign light, and has default applications like emacs-athena and gvim+athena and plain x11 apps?
[18:33] <stevessss> and maybe default browser thats cmd-line based with webkit.. like uzbl.. somethign that gives pure unix experience
[18:34] <stevessss> instead of kde/gnome windows-like experience
[18:34] <shamurai> Koyaanis1, whats type of raid controller are you using?
[18:34] <Koyaanis1> i dont know
[18:34] <shamurai> Is it onboard or and addon card?
[18:34] <OerHeks> stevessss, nope, no such iso, start with the mini iso as base
[18:34] <OerHeks> !mini
[18:34] <Koyaanis1> i only connected my 2 SSDs to the SATA 3 ports..
[18:34] <Koyaanis1> oh yeah
[18:35] <Koyaanis1> some intel shit
[18:35] <shamurai> Ok so its onboard what model motherboard do you have?
[18:35] <Koyaanis1> p8z68-v
[18:35] <shamurai> Or even manufature?
[18:35] <Koyaanis1> asus
[18:36] <shamurai> Honestly I wouldn't use the onboard marvel controller. It doesn't support trim for your ssd.
[18:37] <OerHeks> Koyaanis1, why raid0 ? i would use lvm
[18:37] <Koyaanis1> i dont know what lvm is :(*
[18:37] <OerHeks> !lvm
[18:38] <shamurai> I also wouldn't use software raid with ssd. Oerheks is right, look into lvm.
[18:39] <Koyaanis1> so i need an alternate install iso
[18:42] <Koyaanis1> so LVM is just a software raid_
[18:42] <Koyaanis1> ?
[18:42] <HackerII> 2hoomhatch
[18:43] <Koyaanis1> Just to make sure here.. I also have another 3 TB HDD that is currently encrypted, there wont be any problems with its data when i use LVM right_
[18:43] <OerHeks> no, logical volume managment. i thought lvm + lvm/encrypted is an option during install ?
[18:43] <Koyaanis1> ?
[18:43] <Koyaanis1> yes it is OerHeks
[18:43] <Koyaanis1> but i didnt know what the hell it was so i ignored it
[18:44] <shamurai> Also to solve your grub error the problem is likely that grub is detecting the raid as /dev/mapper instead of /dev/mappper/name
[18:45] <Koyaanis1> what does that mean?
[18:45] <NGC3982> So, im trying to move /home/catalogue/files/ to /home/. The catalogue is very, very big. Best way?
[18:45] <fowl> hi audio keeps skipping, how do i fix it??
[18:45] <fowl> audio everywhere skips
[18:46] <Koyaanis1> im just gonna try to reinstall it with LVM now.. if it doesnt work i will kill myself
[18:46] <Koyaanis1> wish me luck
[18:46] <shamurai> pastebin.com/gJcgGHPX
[18:46] <ObrienDave> been nice knowing you ;P
[18:47] <shamurai> some info there for you.
[18:47] <fowl> is a typical ubnutu feature
[18:48] <Koyaanis1> oh
[18:48] <Koyaanis1> thanks
[18:48] <NGC3982> sudo mv -i /home/hawking/media/home/kruger/ /home/hawking/ <- is the command i'm running, and the contents of the catalogue is like 2TB.
[18:48] <Koyaanis1> ill take a screenshot ofi t and test it out
[18:48] <NGC3982> Is that really the best way?
[18:55] <Koyaanis1> ok
[18:55] <Koyaanis1> im at the Unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda part now
[18:56] <FlipflopImaMop> If I am looking for an active channel to get my feet wet with IRC, which channel should I join?
[18:57] <shamurai> This channel is very active, but it really depends on what your interested in.
[18:58] <squinty> !alis | FlipflopImaMop
[18:58] <FlipflopImaMop> I thought so, I guess watching accounts join and leave was making it look a little dead
[18:58] <FlipflopImaMop> Thanks squinty
[18:59] <k1l_> FlipflopImaMop: we have a seperate channel for chatting: #ubuntu-offtopic . we try to keep this channel support only. so a silent support channel is a good sign :)
[19:00] <FlipflopImaMop> Ah looks like I'll have to take a look, thanks!
[19:00] <ObrienDave> FlipflopImaMop, and you can suppress join/part messages in most IRC clients
[19:00] <ObrienDave> *they give me a headache*
[19:02] <k1l_> !silentirc | FlipflopImaMop
[19:02] <k1l_> hmm, that wasnt the command i wanted
[19:02] <kadiro> loll
[19:02] <ObrienDave> +1 k1l_ ;P
[19:03] <urist_> k1l_: where do you find all these commands you can use on this channel?
[19:04] <Pici> !brain
[19:04] <k1l_> !bot
[19:04] <kadiro> !ubuntu | urist_
[19:04] <ObrienDave> urist_, http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[19:06] <urist_> ty
[19:07] <James_Freewall> hi
[19:08] <Koyaanis1> shamurai: were you the one helping me earlier?
[19:08] <kadiro> hi James_Freewall
[19:09] <Koyaanis1> this shit is killing me. i selected LVM and its still the same result..
[19:09] <shamurai> Trying...
[19:09] <Koyaanis1> i have no idea what im doing
[19:09] <shamurai> where is grub trying to install? Should give you a location.
[19:10] <Koyaanis1> /dev/sda i think
[19:10] <James_Freewall> how can i hping3 somone offline using my ubuntu box
[19:11] <shamurai> Try physically unplugging your other disk. I wonder if grub is installing there instead.
[19:11] <Koyaanis1> i did...
[19:11] <Koyaanis1> im not gonna risk losing 2.5 TB of data lol
[19:11] <shamurai> In the bios is the sata operation set to raid?
[19:11] <Koyaanis1> this is what i had at the beginning of the installation https://www.dropbox.com/s/7lh8vpavqmf6e6f/2015-08-05%2020.59.59.jpg?dl=0
[19:12] <Koyaanis1> later after the fatal error it gave me tons of options to install to
[19:12] <Koyaanis1> one of them being speed on 256.1 GB (stripe), which i chose and didnt work.. and others which were smaller and had (linear) behind it
[19:12] <Koyaanis1> i didnt take a screenshot of that ..
[19:13] <James_Freewall> Koyaanis1 what's your problem
[19:13] <Koyaanis1> i dont even know..
[19:13] <Koyaanis1> something along a bootloader/raid 0
[19:15] <James_Freewall> nice
[19:15] <Koyaanis1> also another question hasnt been answered.. i have an NTFS HDD with data on it.. can i use it on linux?
[19:15] <ObrienDave> yes
[19:15] <James_Freewall> Koyannis1: what?
[19:16] <shamurai> Koyaanis1, have you tried manually partitioning it instead?
[19:16] <Koyaanis1> James_Freewall: ... NTFS
[19:16] <ObrienDave> *sighs*
[19:16] <Koyaanis1> how the hell do you partition it?
[19:16] <ObrienDave> gparted
[19:16] <Koyaanis1> also your alt ctrl f2 opened some login and it had to reboot
[19:17] <shamurai> During the install process it should ask you if you want to manually partition or automatically.
[19:17] <Koyaanis1> Invalid partition table on /dev/sda - wrong signature at 4c00.
[19:17] <Koyaanis1> that sounds nice
[19:17] <shamurai> Select manually then post a pic of the next screen.
[19:17] <Koyaanis1> i dont think there was a manually option anywhere
[19:18] <Koyaanis1> ill install it again and take a screenshot of every step ok
[19:18] <shamurai> Just the partition steps please.
[19:18] <ObrienDave> rut roh, bigger problems than i have time to help with
[19:18] <James_Freewall> kadiro
[19:19] <kadiro> yes James_Freewall
[19:19] <Koyaanis1> https://www.dropbox.com/s/p2lzisvmrfbvc5z/2015-08-05%2021.19.20.jpg?dl=0
[19:20] <shamurai> say yes
[19:21] <ObrienDave> Koyaanis1, don;t scale the screenshots. we can't read them :S
[19:22] <shamurai> It was just saying that it detected partitions on his raid volume and wanted to know if it should unmount them.
[19:22] <Koyaanis1> wtf ObrienDave
[19:22] <dougl> Koyaanis, are you trying to install on a virtual machine?
[19:22] <YellowFis> Hello. I'm upgrading from 14.04 to 15.04 and I'm worried that selecting encrypted home folder will delete my files. Will it? It's running right now and I'm not sure if I can even stop the process.
[19:22] <Koyaanis1> no dougl ... virtual machines auto install everything
[19:22] <Koyaanis1> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gho58lyy3c62oyv/2015-08-05%2021.21.08.jpg?dl=0
[19:23] <ObrienDave> oops :S
[19:23] <shamurai> Something else option
[19:23] <Koyaanis1> theres so much
[19:23] <Koyaanis1> to select from, i have to scroll to get all of it
[19:23] <shamurai> Yeah several failed attempts I would guess.
[19:24] <ObrienDave> Koyaanis1, stop with the bad language and obfuscated swearing
[19:24] <YellowFis> Please someone tell me my files aren't deleted. Does selecting encrypted home folder delete the files when upgrading using the installer?
[19:24] <Koyaanis1> wa
[19:25] <fowl> audio everywhere skips on ubuntu 15.04 what do i have to poke to fix i
[19:26] <k1l_> YellowFis: why dont you do a regular upgrade with using the updater that loads the updates from the ubuntu servers?
[19:26] <k1l_> YellowFis: and you will need to upgrade to 14.10 first, and then to 15.04.
[19:26] <tgm4883> k1l_: sounds like it's too late, already running
[19:26] <YellowFis> k1l_ I tried that but couldn't figure out how.
[19:27] <YellowFis> Does this page say that home folders are kept intact when upgrading? http://askubuntu.com/questions/61619/upgrading-ubuntu-with-encrypted-home
[19:27] <Koyaanis1> shamurai: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9suvpsi2c82w3ov/2015-08-05%2021.26.05.jpg?dl=0
[19:27] <YellowFis> er, when upgrading AND encrypting.
[19:27] <Koyaanis1> https://www.dropbox.com/s/tabfl3uxlshf7v3/2015-08-05%2021.26.13.jpg?dl=0
[19:29] <Koyaanis1> i dont know why its named isw_fgdadgifj. that seems very arbitriary
[19:30] <shamurai> Ok so what I would do here is boot into the live mode then open up gparted and blow away everything.
[19:31] <Koyaanis1> this wont kill my ssd for good will it
[19:31] <msxon> hi all
[19:31] <shamurai> No unless you do about a million times.
[19:31] <msxon> i have disabled guest  account but after sometime ti will appear again
[19:31] <Koyaanis1> well im already in it live.. thats how i connected here
[19:32] <shamurai> ah okay so launch gparted and select the raid volume and blow away all the partitions
[19:32] <Koyaanis1> so it says cant have a partition outside the disk now when i start gaparted
[19:32] <shamurai> We want to start fresh.
[19:32] <Koyaanis1> "ignore"
[19:33] <Koyaanis1> and now it says "invalid partition table on /dev/sda -- wrong signature 4c00"
[19:33] <Koyaanis1> "ignore" again
[19:33] <JustSighDudes> If ubuntu landscape is open source, then why is it limited to 10 machines? Or is there a version somewhere that's unlimited?
[19:34] <tgm4883> JustSighDudes: it's open source?
[19:34] <B13THERS> hallo
[19:34] <shamurai> landscape is a canonical purchased product.
[19:34] <JustSighDudes> Oh. I just assumed it was open source.
[19:34] <JustSighDudes> My bad.
[19:34] <JustSighDudes> Damn it.
[19:34] <Koyaanis1> shamurai: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ipcto9ubjruomcn/2015-08-05%2021.33.55.jpg?dl=0
[19:34] <JustSighDudes> Are there any open source alternatives?
[19:35] <tgm4883> JustSighDudes: what are you looking to do?
[19:35] <notfowl> audio skips in ubuntu 15.04 how what do i fix it
[19:35] <JustSighDudes> tgm4883, package management/ updates etc.
[19:35] <tgm4883> JustSighDudes: also, just because something is open source, doesn't mean it doesn't have restrictions
[19:35] <shamurai> You want the /dev/mapper
[19:35] <tgm4883> JustSighDudes: You are thinking of Free and/or GPL
[19:36] <JustSighDudes> tgm4883, yeah I meant GPL
[19:36] <Koyaanis1> so...
[19:36] <JustSighDudes> I think I'm just gonna learn ansible
[19:36] <tgm4883> JustSighDudes: You could look at http://spacewalk.redhat.com/ I've read that it can do debian/ubuntu too
[19:37] <tgm4883> JustSighDudes: or puppet, salt, etc
[19:37] <JustSighDudes> tgm4883, I tried that. It doesn't work too well with ubuntu
[19:37] <tgm4883> JustSighDudes: although spacewalk I think is more in line with landscape
[19:37]  * tgm4883 shrugs
[19:37] <tgm4883> JustSighDudes: how many machines?
[19:37] <Koyaanis1> shamurai: what exactly do i want of it now? deleted speed1?
[19:38] <shamurai> Koyaanis1: can you pvt msg me/
[19:38] <shamurai> ?
[19:38] <Koyaanis1> i dont know how
[19:39] <elisa87> can you please take a look at the question I asked here? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31841174/typeerror-e-is-undefined-in-d3-js-using-firefox-and-ubuntu14-04
[19:39] <Dro__> i'm wondering why Ubuntu is using too much memory : free -m output : Total: 5832 Used : 5394 Free: 437
[19:40] <squinty> Koyaanis1, if you are using xchat or hexchat right click on the nick you want to open a dialog with and then click  "open dialog"
[19:46] <tgm4883> Dro__: why is that too much memory?
[19:46] <Dro__> tgm4883, i don't know, it seems that browsers uses too much mem
[19:47] <tgm4883> !ram | Dro__
[19:47] <backbox> hi
[19:47] <backbox> im new to linux world
[19:48] <backbox> i want be to the network security side like ethical jacker.Is there is any sites or hands on which will be useful to self study
[19:48] <artois> well, browsers actually do use too much ram, too :p
[19:48] <artois> backbox: take things apart and see how they break
[19:48] <artois> /msg alis list *hacking*
[19:48] <backbox> ?
[19:49] <tgm4883> we don't support hacking here
[19:49] <artois> course you do, hacking is key to GNU/Linux
[19:49] <backbox> not exactly hacking
[19:49] <OerHeks> ethical jacker .. oh wait, hacker
[19:49] <artois> backbox: don't mind the people who don't know words :)
[19:49] <Pici> backbox: ##security might be a good start, ask alis for fmore
[19:49] <backbox> im asking regarding offensing hacking
[19:50] <backbox> ok
[19:50]  * tgm4883 sighs
[19:50] <JayBau> hello, I am normally using just terminal for my hosts, and new to this KDE/GNOME/Unity thing
[19:50] <JayBau> what are your games? :D
[19:50] <masterkhan> hello - i have a serious problem. my unity desktop environment is completely messed up. my wallpaper is showing a picture similar to those distorted images you get when scanning for  a tv channel on your tv. My desktop is unresponsive and i can only open apps via terminal. if i try interacting with unity panel my computer freezes and im forced to restart. help!
[19:51] <ddybing> Hi. I have a problem when I connect my USB pendrive. I get an error saying something like "Driver reports the block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512". Can someone help me? :(
[19:51] <masterkhan> right now im using xchat via ubuntu but i can't do much more. if i try opening a browser my computer will freeze
[19:52] <masterkhan> i would google for help if i could access my browser!
[19:53] <elisa87> so I have my index.html file which js script inside in /var/www folder but when I look at console js in firefox the things I had used console.log() don't appear
[19:53] <tgm4883> artois: as we both know, words have a dictionary meaning, and a meaning by how they are widespead used (eg. literally). You are correct in your definition of hacking, but we both know that wasn't what he was asking
[19:53] <masterkhan> i tried resetting graphics driver but still have same problem
[19:53] <kadiro> masterkhan: try opening your browser from terminal to see what's happen ( errors )
[19:53] <squinty> masterkhan,  if you have updated your kernel recently, might want to try accessing the grub boot screen and selecting a previous kernel
[19:53] <masterkhan> i've tried. i don't want to risk freezes up my computer again kadiro
[19:54] <artois> tgm4883: cool, so I don't even have to talk anymore since you know what I'm thinking
[19:54] <artois> should come in handy
[19:54] <kadiro> ok masterkhan i just tryed to help you
[19:54] <tgm4883> artois: heh, if not talking anymore is what makes you happy go right ahead
[19:55] <masterkhan> i haven't updated kernel. the only thing i did was trying to get multiview on dual monitor and i read i needed proprietey drivers. i changed settings in nvidia settings manager and then rebooted and now i find myself in this mess. i tried reverting back to previous defauly gpu settings and i still have this problem!
[19:55] <artois> tgm4883: why use if, if you know what I'm thinking =P
[19:55] <artois> elisa87: try #javascript
[19:55] <user1254> anyone know a tool to measure the actual power consumption in Watts ?
[19:55]  * tgm4883 rolls eyes
[19:55] <artois> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wattmeter
[19:56] <user1254> lol. already have that one :). I mean for ubuntu
[19:56] <tgm4883> user1254: I've got one of these, pretty handy http://www.amazon.com/P3-P4400-Electricity-Usage-Monitor/dp/B00009MDBU
[19:57] <masterkhan> can someone tell me how i can goback to defauly ubuntu whilst maintaining the files i've saved in my home directories?
[19:57] <tgm4883> user1254: well I'd assume your power supply would need to support it somehow
[19:57] <masterkhan> sorry - not default* - i want to revert back to original gpu set up
[19:57] <tgm4883> masterkhan: just the GPU setup?
[19:58] <kadiro> masterkhan: try from your old kernel
[19:58] <wileee> masterkhan, No way really if you updated, your installed drivers can be fixed most likely.
[19:58] <user1254> Ive heard there is such a tool for windows. It shows the actual power consumed by a laptop
[19:58] <squinty> masterkhan,  grub boot menu -> recovery mode
[19:58] <tgm4883> user1254: I thought the default battery icon has some stats for that
[19:58] <tgm4883> user1254: I dont' have my laptop with me right now to chek
[19:59] <masterkhan> yeah, i've set up so many things on ubuntu i just dont have the time to reset them up. restarting ubuntu will cost me so much time which i dont have. also i want to know how to fix this issue in case it happens again, hich it might do if i reinstall ubuntu
[19:59] <tgm4883> masterkhan: I would think removing the gpu drivers and removing entries from xorg.conf would do that
[20:00] <masterkhan> squinty, i don't want to revert to defauly ubuntu - just want to set the graphics configuration back to defauly - can you do that via grub recovery?
[20:00] <kadiro> masterkhan: just try from your old kernel if updated
[20:00] <masterkhan> kadiro, i never updated to new kernel...
[20:00] <user1254> tgm4883: hmm you maybee right. it has an 'Rate' entry which is showing the current rate of discharge in [W]
[20:01] <squinty> masterkhan,  iirc, recovery gives the equivalent of "nomodeset" so one can boot to stable desktop or tty where such things as drivers can be removed etc
[20:01] <wileee> masterkhan, I would bet you can get to a tty, ^^^^
[20:01] <kadiro> oh well in this case i have no idea but may be you will check or update your drivers for grafic card masterkhan
[20:02] <masterkhan> what is tty?
[20:02] <wileee> !tty
[20:02] <kadiro> alt+ctrl+F1 ..6
[20:02] <Bashing-om> masterkhan: Show us what you are working with, Pastebin the outputs of terminal commands ' lspci -vnn | grep -i VGA ; sudo lshw -C display ' as a place to start .
[20:03] <masterkhan> i can only paste here im afraid
[20:03] <Bashing-om> !paste | masterkhan
[20:04] <masterkhan> ubottu, i understand but i can't open browser without computer freezing up and having to restart!
[20:04] <kadiro> Bashing-om: he can't access to internet i guess
[20:05] <wileee> masterkhan, read the bots message 'pastebinit'
[20:05] <kadiro> use !pastebinit
[20:06] <kadiro> followed by your message if i understand
[20:06] <wileee> !pastebinit | masterkhan
[20:07] <masterkhan> maybe i can paste the relevant line? - what specifically do you want to know.? the only thing I can see from the information that i don't understand is in the "resources"
[20:08]  * kadiro sighs
[20:08] <wileee> masterkhan, If you do not read the links and just assume we will not have you follow the paste model etc, you're gonna be here a long time waiting
[20:09] <masterkhan> i can't get it to work
[20:10] <wileee> !details | masterkhan
[20:10] <masterkhan> ok - i think i probably just need to reset gpu settings to default. Can someone just explain what i need to do in terminal to achieve this?
[20:11] <wileee> masterkhan, I will not bother you again, however I hope you're getting the message, follow instructions, not you own ideas, and give details.
[20:12] <kadiro> masterkhan: the others helper need you to past things to know what kind of gpu card you have
[20:12] <wileee> you've already lost excellent help
[20:13] <Gotolei> my 14.04 install just upgraded nvidia-331 to nvidia-340 today, and now I only get a black screen after plymouth
[20:13] <masterkhan> another gpu issue
[20:14] <masterkhan> if it wasn't for driver issues ubuntu would be great
[20:14] <Gotolei> laptop, fwiw. i've had bumblebee working fine since january
[20:15] <wileee> masterkhan, You are externalizing your user errors, we do not need the drama.
[20:15] <wileee> own up, don't blame the OS
[20:16] <kadiro> masterkhan: from terminal type: lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A1
[20:16] <wileee> Gotolei, for bumble bee there is a ppa right?
[20:16] <Gotolei> i think? lemme check
[20:16] <kadiro> or install hardinfo that give you all info about hardware
[20:17] <tgm4883> Gotolei: nice, I've had prime working with my AMD card for about 2 weeks. it's pretty sweet
[20:17] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: In your case; try : ' sudo apt-get purge nvidia* ; sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings ' .
[20:17] <Gotolei> only way i can get into the desktop is with nomodeset
[20:17] <wileee> Gotolei, Just trying to make sure we know where the nvidia came from.
[20:18] <wileee> Gotolei, check Bashing-om's message
[20:18] <Gotolei> under the 'additional software' window, it says the one installed is the recommended one
[20:18] <masterkhan> it says VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 220] [10de:0a20] (rev a2)
[20:19] <Dex7> Is it dangerous to run (  $ rm -rf /  )  (without root privilege)
[20:19] <Dex7> does it remove everything within the /media ?
[20:19] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: Beaware, I exoect BumbleBee to be expunfedm and nvidia-setting to take it's place. Ypu may not like that option .
[20:20] <Gotolei> iirc prime only allows for one or the other to be run at one time, and not per-program?
[20:20] <masterkhan> the recommended nvidia driver for me is 340.76 i believe
[20:20] <tgm4883> Gotolei: i've got it per-program with my AMD hardware
[20:21] <Gotolei> then that should be fine, i just don't want the nvidia card running 24/7 and eating up unnecessary power
[20:21] <Bashing-om> kadiro: masterkhan " GT216 [GeForce GT 220] " is that card not relegated to legacy be Nvidia ??
[20:21] <masterkhan> yes Bashing-om
[20:21] <gambl0re> how do i force delete a directory...rm -rf not working
[20:22] <Matt_teni> sudo maybe?
[20:22] <Matt_teni> sudo rim -rf
[20:22] <kadiro> Bashing-om: oh yes sorry i don't see that before
[20:22] <Matt_teni> or start file managed in sudo mode?
[20:22] <gambl0re> ?
[20:22] <gambl0re> why would i need to use sudo
[20:23] <Gotolei> bashing: 'linux-headers-generic already newest version'
[20:23] <Gotolei> just skip to next step i guess?
[20:23] <Kgirthofer> gambl0re: do you own the directory?
[20:23] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: Yeah, just cheap insurance, go on .
[20:24] <gambl0re> uh yeah
[20:24] <masterkhan> i would have thought there was a straight forward way to reset gpu settings to default given how often these problems probably pop up
[20:24] <Kgirthofer> then it would work
[20:24] <gambl0re> Matt_teni giving me false information
[20:24] <Kgirthofer> what errors are you getting if any
[20:24] <OerHeks> gambl0re, so why is that command not working?
[20:24] <Gotolei> ..supposedly nvidia-304 is "current", even though 340/346 were automatically installed/recommended  respectively
[20:24] <Gotolei> ok the
[20:24] <gambl0re> it says -rf options command not found
[20:24] <Gotolei> ok then*
[20:24] <gambl0re> or something like that
[20:24] <gambl0re> its not a permission error
[20:25] <Kgirthofer> do the command and paste the exact output
[20:25] <OerHeks> !paste
[20:25] <gambl0re> nevermind rm -rf worked
[20:26] <gambl0re> i was doing rmdir -rf befre
[20:26] <Matt_teni> gambl0re, you said the command wasn't working. so i thought maybe permission might be the error
[20:26] <gambl0re> yea right..
[20:27] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: Something not smelling right. What card(s) are we working with ' lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga ' ? 304 to 346 is too great of a stretch .
[20:28] <Gotolei> laptop is t430, card is NVS 5400M
[20:28] <Gotolei> problem is on different computer so can't just copy/paste
[20:29] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: Show us the output from the 'lspci' command, so I can match the card to the proper driver .
[20:29] <tgm4883> Gotolei: you can use pastebinit
[20:29] <tgm4883> !pastebinit
[20:30] <masterkhan> hmm, ive googled on my phone and found the following command "sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-*"   --but this isn't working in my terminal. i get a message saying can't find anything related to nvidia
[20:31] <Gotolei> http://pastebin.com/SsFhL9V7
[20:31] <Gotolei> @ Bashing-om ^
[20:32] <Bashing-om> masterkhan: Then we are back to square one, Maybe you do not even have Nvidia graphics ? We nned to see the requested outputs so we KNOW what we are working eith .
[20:32] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: Looki'n at you http://pastebin.com/SsFhL9V7 .
[20:32] <Gotolei> and yeah something's definitely smelly, i can log in now but compiz is failing
[20:32] <kelledin> well, here I am with another nVidia GPU problem
[20:32] <masterkhan> ive already pasted the text from the cmd you suggested. it says i have gt 220
[20:32] <urist_> !svn
[20:32] <masterkhan> @ Bashing-om
[20:33] <kelledin> in my case I'm loading the nvida-340 driver from xorg-edgers PPA
[20:33] <kelledin> on ubuntu 15.04 amd64
[20:33] <masterkhan> description: VGA compatible controller
[20:33] <masterkhan>        product: GT216 [GeForce GT 220]
[20:33] <masterkhan>        vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
[20:33] <masterkhan>        physical id: 0
[20:33] <masterkhan>        bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
[20:33] <masterkhan>        version: a2
[20:33] <kelledin> if i boot up with systemd.unit=multi-user.target, I can run startx and get a working X11 screen with the nvidia driver
[20:34] <OerHeks> uh oh, startx is depreciated >> sudo service lightdm start
[20:34] <kelledin> but if I let it boot up with lightdm, I get the classic dialog insisting that I'm in low-resolution mode
[20:34] <BluesKaj> kelledin:  the 340 driver is available in the repos. no need for the xedgers ppa
[20:34] <wileee> kelledin, not sure you would want startx either
[20:34] <kelledin> wileee: i did startx merely to verify that the nvidia driver was working
[20:35] <wileee> kelledin, that makes no sense but okay.
[20:35] <kelledin> i don't see why it's working, yet the lightdm startup insists that it's not
[20:36] <kelledin> xileee: if it hadn't coughed up that error dialog every time I booted to the GUI, I wouldn't have bothered with startx
[20:37] <pecorade> hi
[20:37] <kelledin> now I need to figure out why lightdm thinks my working xorg config is non-working?
[20:38] <ubuntu8> How exactly do I make a primary partition not primary?
[20:38] <BluesKaj> kelledin:  nvidia-xconfig
[20:39] <kelledin> ubuntu8: remove it and re-create it
[20:40] <Campo> asd
[20:41] <mancomunado> How to restore a file just deleted from linux? not at the bin
[20:41] <ubuntu8> thanks, I think I can do that
[20:43] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: Confirmed that the 346 driver is the one you want ( Nvidia recommends the 352, but I find in many cases the 352 is too cutting edge) . 346 is now available in the 14.04 release repository .
[20:43] <Gotolei> aright, so just install that one through 'additional drivers' again?
[20:44] <kelledin> BluesKaj: did that.  lightdm still insists on starting up in low-graphics mode
[20:45] <kelledin> or rather coughing up the low-graphics mode dialog
[20:46] <jwash> anyone here know how i can auto mute flash from my browser? i don't like sound to come from the automatic videos playing on news sites, or other flash ads
[20:46] <wileee> ubuntu8, you need an extended to put your partition insider
[20:47] <wileee> inside*
[20:47] <BluesKaj> kelledin:  which ubuntu version?
[20:47] <Chaser> jwash: flashblock extension if you are using firefox.
[20:47] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: One may do so, still purge all old drivers. O like terminal my self ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' see what the system picks for a driver (?) .
[20:47] <ubuntu8> I can extend a partition, make a logical one, move the data across and delete the primary, right?
[20:47] <jwash> i don't want to block all flash, just mute it
[20:48] <wileee> jwash, You might consider an adblocker and or noscript they will be gone.
[20:49] <jwash> i'm happy to let them play, just not with sound ;)
[20:49] <jwash> Audio Controller
[20:49] <jwash> for FF
[20:50] <mjuszczak> How can I tell Ubuntu to use a different version of ruby than /usr/bin/ruby? I have ruby installed in /opt/rubies but when I symlink /usr/bin/ruby -> /opt/rubies/foo/bin/ruby, any time apt upgrades something that depends on ruby, it reinstalls the system ruby packages and updates the symlnk. Is there an alternatives solution?
[20:50] <wileee> jwash, it not like a video where you have control in the browser, never heard of what you want.
[20:50] <TJ-> mjuszczak: use update-alternatives
[20:51] <wileee> why would the advertiser allow that if they could make sure you hear it.
[20:51] <kelledin> BluesKaj: 15.04 64-bit
[20:52] <mjuszczak> TJ-: I see that, but it doesn't look like there's ruby support in there? Or am I missing something.
[20:53] <Gotolei-laptop> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/19KqjkyV
[20:53] <BluesKaj> kelledin:  then te regular nvidia 340 recommended driver in additional drivers should work for you, there's no reason to use xedgers version which eventaully breaks due to poor support
[20:54] <kelledin> BluesKaj: i suppose it might matter that it's booting via UEFI...but again, I wouldn't expect startx to work either if it's a UEFI compatibility
[20:54] <TJ-> mjuszczak: as you're adding non-package-managed software you'd need to configure it manually. You might need to create a 'diversion' for the current "/usr/bin/ruby" too, so that when the package is upgraded it doesn't replace the "/usr/bin/ruby" symbolic link
[20:55] <kelledin> BluesKaj: and the default 340 version did the same thing.  hence why i went with the edgers PPA
[20:55] <mjuszczak> How does that work? I don't mind RTFM but is there a direction?
[20:56] <TJ-> mjuszczak: see https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ap-pkg-diversions.html
[20:56] <BluesKaj> uefi hasn't got anything to do with it afaik , kelledin, but enlighten me if what you say it's the case
[20:56] <squinty> jwash: might want to check out FlashStopper    doesn't automatically mute the sound but it does stop the flash video from automatically playing.  you can then just turn down the volume before starting the video to play
[20:56] <Bashing-om> Gotolei-laptop: look'n at your http://pastebin.com/19KqjkyV .
[20:56] <BluesKaj> anyway it's been a long day here , think I'll call it a day
[20:57] <TJ-> kelledin: there should be clues as to what is wrong in the "/var/log/Xorg.0.log{,.old}" files (the .old should be the failed attempt before low-res mode is tried)
[20:58] <squinty> jwash:  sorry typo   should have been  FlashStopper
[20:59] <squinty> jwash:  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashstopper/?src=api
[20:59] <Bashing-om> Gotolei-laptop: "0 to remove and 19 not upgraded. ' Let's get you up dated ! . ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' Then we look at what driver was installed .
[20:59] <Gotolei> fwiw it seems to be sort of working, just glitching a bit here and there
[20:59] <Gotolei> and idk how nvidia-settings works
[21:00] <Gotolei> like, somehow the system font size reset itself :?
[21:01] <dia> Gotolei, http://www.techytalk.info/lubuntu-change-fonts-dpi-when-using-proprietary-nvidia-driver/
[21:02] <dia> Gotolei, are you using the proprietary driver?
[21:02] <aaps> ab
[21:03] <TJ-> dia: changing the driver's computed DPI isn't the best solution since that effects everything, not just fonts.
[21:03] <Gotolei> dia: yeah the recommended one
[21:03] <Gotolei> not edgers
[21:04] <dia> TJ-, When i played with nvidia cards the DPI changed when using proprietary drivers
[21:04] <dia> Not just the fonts
[21:05] <TJ-> dia: it's computed based on the physical measurements of the monitor(s) and the resolution.
[21:05] <TJ-> dia:  So-called high DPI displays are generally the cause of the almost unreadable fonts
[21:07] <Gotolei> buttons etc displayed normally fwiw, just the font
[21:07] <TJ-> Gotolei: are you using rotated monitors? There's a bug in the nvidia driver's DPI calculation code that can cause some very weird results
[21:07] <Gotolei> it's a laptop
[21:07] <Gotolei> which is now stuck on plymouth, yay
[21:08] <TJ-> Gotolei: Press Esc to kill the splash screen and view any messages being hidden
[21:09] <amrX2K> Hi Fellas, I have a problem with my internet connection. Now the internet is working fine, but when I try to ping any website or ip even <IP_ADDRESS> its telling me "Network is unreachable"
[21:09] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: ^^ we are here to get ya the driver and nvidia-settings installed ( maybe we must inplicitly remove BumbleBee ?) .
[21:09] <amrX2K> I've tried to disable the firewall with "sudo ufw disable" and reboot nothing changed.
[21:10] <TJ-> amrX2K: Sounds like a firewall is blocking ICMP echo/reply packets
[21:11] <amrX2K> @TJ-, Sounds correct, but I am not a networking guy to make sure its from the firewall since I disabled it ?
[21:11] <Gotolei> Bashing-om, i have the driver and nvidia-settings installed. i'm just trying to clean up the resulting mess
[21:11] <Gotolei> like how now when X starts, it's like 1024x768
[21:11] <TJ-> amrX2K: How about a firewall in the Internet gateway router?
[21:11] <amrX2K> Also whenever it ping, it send "Request timeout for icmp_seq
[21:12] <Gotolei> 640X480 *
[21:12] <amrX2K> @TJ- will check it right now.
[21:12] <Gotolei> with no other options :|
[21:12] <amrX2K> Its on a minimum security.
[21:13] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: :) I am concerned that BumbleBee was installed from PPA, and we need to purge BumbleBee and remove the PPA .
[21:14] <mjuszczak> Thanks!
[21:14] <TJ-> amrX2K: Try this and I'll watch for incoming packets: "ping -c 5 iam.tj"
[21:15] <amrX2K> @TJ- done.
[21:15] <amrX2K> amrx ~ $ ping -c 5 iam.tj
[21:15] <amrX2K> connect: Network is unreachable
[21:16] <TJ-> amrX2K: Are you using IPv6 ... I think you've got a problem with IPv6 vs IPv4
[21:16] <ubuntu8> If I make a logical partition, can I put ubuntu there if I already have 4 primary partitions? Since I don't have extra storage items to plug in, moving things around to try and lower the number is a bit difficult
[21:16] <Bashing-om> amrX2K: TJ- " ping -c 3 iam.tj >> 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2002ms
[21:18] <amrX2K> @Bashing-om how did you know about those 3 packets ?
[21:18] <Bashing-om> ubuntu8: In the leagacy partitioning scheme, there is a maximum of 4 primary partitions, one of which may be an 'extended' partition, In this 'extended' partiton one may have 128 'logical' partitions. And yes ubuntu is happy to install to logical partitions.
[21:18] <amrX2K> @TJ- Tell me the start of the robe and I'll tackle a little bit with it and let you know whats going on. but where do I start ?
[21:19] <Bashing-om> amrX2K: That is the return in my terminal, to show there is no problem at TJ- 's distant end, The problem is in your house .
[21:19] <TJ-> amrX2K: your current connection is Comcast IPv6 ... if you're trying to ping an IPv4 and your network isn't configure for dual-stack, or needs a tunnel, that would explain your problemsw
[21:19] <Xeno72> @ubuntu8: No problem. Ubuntu can be installed that way (unlike windows; it can be installed in primary partitions only).
[21:19] <Gotolei> turns out bumblebee is in universe repo
[21:19] <ubuntu8> Then I think I'm doing something wrong. I told it to install on one, but it's not working quite right. perhaps I didn't make it large enough
[21:19] <k1l_> Gotolei: bumblebee is old. nvidia-prime is the new one
[21:20] <dia> Gotolei, http://askubuntu.com/questions/6033/enabling-nvidia-driver-messes-up-splash-screen
[21:20] <amrX2K> That makes more sense since last time this problem occured I was playing with tunneling!!
[21:20] <Gotolei> nvidia also seems to think 304 is the new one
[21:20] <Gotolei> removing bumblebee, anyways
[21:20] <k1l_> Gotolei: what ubuntu?
[21:20] <TJ-> amrX2K: aha! now we start to make progress... users! :D
[21:20] <Gotolei> xubuntu 14.04
[21:20] <amrX2K> @TJ-, indeed, Thanks man
[21:20] <Xeno72> @ubuntu8: 20 GB is large enough in any case. For further question you have to explain what was / is not working.
[21:21] <k1l_> Gotolei: the latest one in 14.04 is nvidia-346
[21:21] <amrX2K> @TJ-, @Bashing-om, - will restore what I did and keep you updated.
[21:21] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: Is Bumblebee on your system installed from PPA ?
[21:21] <Gotolei> which is what i have installed
[21:21] <Gotolei> no bashing it turns out it's not ppa
[21:22] <ubuntu8> I have it at 18.5 GB, but when I run the installer it keeps telling me it won't because I have 4 primarys. which I do, but since I was trying to put it on a logical drive, I thought it wouldn't be an issue.
[21:22] <Gotolei> but i've removed it, and the system is still displaying at 640*480 after reboot
[21:22] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: :), then we should be home free, Is system updated now ? And maybe now should do some house cleaning ?
[21:23] <EriC^^> ubuntu8: you can have 3 primaries and 1 extended with many logical ones
[21:23] <Xeno72> @ubuntu8: 18.5 GB works without any doubt. Do you have a swap partition? This is needed unless you have a lot of GB RAM.
[21:23] <joaocfernandes> Hi everyone what is the best solution for 3d accelerated graphics (intel integrated) on a i7-3520m ?
[21:23] <Gotolei> the system displaying at resolutions unseen since the 80s aren't what i'd call "home free"
[21:23] <Gotolei> bbiab
[21:23] <Bashing-om> ubuntu8: Show the channel what the situation is by pastebin the output of ' sudo fdisk -lu ' . The story will be told .
[21:23] <dia> Gotolei, http://askubuntu.com/questions/6033/enabling-nvidia-driver-messes-up-splash-screen
[21:24] <ubuntu8> I don't think I have a swap partition. But I have 12 gigs of ram, so I do have a decent amount
[21:24] <dia> Gotolei, try putting your res in grub
[21:24] <ubuntu8> I actually moved back to windows to try and move things, just because I don't fully understand ubuntu yet, and I didn't want to break something
[21:25] <ubuntu8> I'll go over to the ubuntu demo and run the command
[21:25] <Bashing-om> ubuntu8: We break ubuntu - we learn - we get to keep the pieces and put it back together .
[21:25] <ubuntu8> I mean, I don't want to break something and lose my music and whatnot.
[21:25] <Xeno72> @ubuntu8: Yes 12 GB RAM is fine. Please note EriCs input because of number of partitions: 3 primarties and 1 extended containing the logicals. If you have really 4 partitions, you have to delete one.
[21:26] <Xeno72> @ubuntu8 really 4 primaries I meant.
[21:26] <Bashing-om> ubuntu8: The beauty of ubuntu, is that if you do not get wild with 'sudo' You will not break Windows, or your files !
[21:27] <doctorly> How can I map a specific key code to a different key in Ubuntu 14.04. I am having a hard time, I need to map ESC to my SEARCH key.
[21:27] <EriC^^> what do you mean by search key?
[21:27] <Xeno72> @ubuntu8: Please note you have to make a backup ALWAYS FIRST when you change something in partitions or like that! Really always. Please note if you do not make a backup your files seem to be ... worthless.
[21:28] <EriC^^> is it an fn+key ?
[21:28] <doctorly> EriC^^: I mean a physical search key
[21:28] <Gotolei> back
[21:28] <EriC^^> ubuntu8: can you paste sudo parted -l as Bashing-om suggested? it would help immensly
[21:28] <EriC^^> *immensely
[21:28] <Gotolei> Bashing-om, ubuntu8 but if you have the audacity to update a driver then expect everything to break
[21:29] <doctorly> EriC^^: I know it's code and need to map it to ESC
[21:29] <Gotolei> granted that requires sudo
[21:29] <Gotolei> or at least root pass
[21:29] <EriC^^> doctorly: xmodmap -e "keycode <ESC keycode>=<search keycode"
[21:29] <EriC^^> doctorly: use xev to get ESC's keycode
[21:30] <Jordan_U> ubuntu8: This has been said already, but to reiterate and clarify: You can only have 4 primary partitions. If you want to have logical partitions then one of those primary partitions must be an extended partition. You cannot keep all 4 of your existing primary partitions if you want to add another partition, of any type. This is not technically correct, but may get the idea across: You can can have either 4 primary ...
[21:30] <Jordan_U> ... partitions and no logical partitions, or 3 primary partitions and any number of logical partitions.
[21:30] <doctorly> EriC^^: Is the first keycode just the word 'keycode'
[21:30] <EriC^^> doctorly: yeah
[21:31] <doctorly> EriC^^: could you send that one more time, I actually don't have page up right now, sorry
[21:31] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: But in all honesty .. A proprietary driver is not ubuntu . It is tacked on to what is ubuntu . We just work with what we have to work with .
[21:32] <foobarfoobar123> hello
[21:32] <Gotolei> under no circumstances is 640*480 acceptable for a 1600*900 screen
[21:32] <EriC^^> doctorly: xmodmap -e "keycode <ESC keycode>=<search keycode>"
[21:33] <Gotolei> kinda weird though. plymouth displays fine, login screen displays fine, but once it hits the desktop the screen shrinks down
[21:33] <foobarfoobar123> When I try to login via tty I get immediately thrown out
[21:33] <foobarfoobar123> *logged out
[21:33] <doctorly> EriC^^: Thanks
[21:33] <k1l_> Gotolei: see xorg.log what is going on there
[21:33] <TJ-> Gotolei: did you check the Xorg logs as I suggested?
[21:33] <ubuntu8> wait, when I run the fdisk lu, it just tries to run the installer
[21:33] <EriC^^> doctorly: no problem
[21:34] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: Yeah ! Granted, but that resolution is a product of a non-ubuntu driver. A very clever coder makes it work; we have to make it work better ,
[21:34] <Gotolei> can't even get mousepad open on this POS
[21:35]  * TJ- suspects the nvidia kernel shim isn't loaded
[21:35] <Gotolei> where is xorg.log, it's not in /var/log apparently
[21:35] <TJ-> Gotolei: can you access a raw Virtual Terminal (VT) without the X server ( Ctrl+Alt+F2 for VT1) ?
[21:35] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: Bios has a graphics driver, grub has it's graphics driver, the kerenl has a driver, and now we are loading the GUI and trying to load up the GUI's driver .
[21:36] <TJ-> Gotolei: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log*" ... if there's a file ends ".old" that is the likely location of the failed attempt to start with the proper resolution
[21:37] <Gotolei> should i just pastebin the whole thing then b/c i have no idea what i'm looking for
[21:37] <TJ-> s/F2/F1/  ... my typing is terrible
[21:37] <TJ-> Gotolei: yes, please do :)
[21:37]  * Bashing-om passes TJ- strong black coffee .
[21:38] <JOW> welcome everyone
[21:38] <TJ-> Gotolei: if you "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" you can then directly pastebin command output and files using e.g. "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old"
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> thank you JOW
[21:38] <Gotolei-laptop> http://pastebin.com/Wv1UipB3
[21:39] <Bashing-om> Gotolei: Reading " meridian 3.16.0-45-generic " are we ever outdated !
[21:39] <Gotolei-laptop> 14.04
[21:39] <Montauk_Monster> is there a reason i cant see the ok/cancel buttons in certain windows?
[21:40] <Gotolei-laptop> 3.13 is standard for 14.04 actually, so i'm running newer than usual
[21:40] <TJ-> Gotolei: "[    32.691] (II) intel(G0): switch to mode<EMAIL_ADDRESS>on LVDS1 using pipe 0, position (0, 0), rotation normal, reflection none"
[21:40] <k1l_> TJ-: Gotolei  [    58.043] (II) intel(G0): switch to mode<EMAIL_ADDRESS>on LVDS1 using pipe 0, position (0, 0), rotation normal, reflection none
[21:40] <TJ-> Gotolei: then [    58.043] (II) intel(G0): switch to mode<EMAIL_ADDRESS>on LVDS1 using pipe 0, position (0, 0), rotation normal, reflection none
[21:40] <Gotolei-laptop> ok so what do those mean in english
[21:41] <JOW> Can anyone give me a good linux/ubuntu beginners chat
[21:41] <JOW> ?
[21:41] <Gotolei-laptop> i get that it's switching the resolutions there but i don't see a why
[21:41] <k1l_> what video card was that again? seems like the issue is the switching form the nvidia card to the intel CPU video driver.
[21:41] <TJ-> Gotolei: those mode changes separated by about 26 seconds... was that whilst the driver was trying and failing to log-in?
[21:41] <ubuntu8> J0W, I think this is the beginners chat.
[21:41] <bprompt> !ot | JOW  maybe this one
[21:41] <k1l_> JOW: chat or support?
[21:42] <TJ-> Gotolei: can you show us "pastebinit <( dpkg -l 'nvidia*' )"
[21:42] <JOW> is there any free support kil?
[21:42] <MonkeyDust> JOW  what is your question?
[21:42] <k1l_> JOW: this channel here is free ubuntu support by volunteers from the ubuntu community.
[21:42] <squinty> yes here
[21:45] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Gotolei I need to be away for a bit, I be back soonest .
[21:45] <TJ-> k1l_: Chuckle-worthy logging:  "[    32.004] (II) NVIDIA(0): Built-in logo is bigger than the screen."
[21:45] <EriC^^> :D
[21:46] <Gotolei> TJ-, k1l_ and whoever else: as said before it displays fine at logon, after putting the pass in it changes res
[21:47] <k1l_> Gotolei: the starting stuff doesnt load 3d drivers. after login its the first time it needs 3d drivers. but it seems to want to switch to the intel card (which is fine for the hybrid cards) but it changes the resolution.
[21:48] <Jordan_U> ubuntu8: You cannot make a logical partition if you already have 4 primary partitions (unless one of those 4 primary partitions is also an extended partition, which from your question I am assuming is not the case).
[21:48] <k1l_> Gotolei: so i guess there is still some issue with the driver so its not properly making the switch
[21:48] <Gotolei-laptop> might just reinstall at this point
[21:48] <Gotolei-laptop> it's only gotten an order of magnitude worse since i got onto this channel
[21:49] <k1l_> please show the command output of "pastebinit <( dpkg -l 'nvidia*' )"
[21:49] <Gotolei-laptop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12010012/
[21:50] <TJ-> Gotolei: I suspect the issue is when the system switches from the Intel to Nvidia GPU, since "[    31.917] (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 640 x 480"
[21:51] <Gotolei-laptop> i still don't get what that means
[21:51] <Gotolei-laptop> are the intel drivers broken as well now?
[21:51] <TJ-> Gotolei: show us "pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[21:51] <Gotolei-laptop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12010022/
[21:51] <k1l_> nvidia-settings is 331. there is a 346 one in the backports repo
[21:52] <kelledin> ok, so now it comes down to this: what triggers lightdm to insist that "the system is running in low-graphics mode"?
[21:52] <TJ-> Gotolei: That PC has a hybrid (think cost-saving) graphics hardware. It uses a single low-power GPU (Inel) to drive the monitor outputs. When more intensive video output is required the system is supposed to switch instantly to the Nvidia GPU, but the output is still routed through the Intel's outputs. This is why the Bumblebee/Prime 'kludge' is required - to handle the hardware switching between the 2
[21:53] <Gotolei-laptop> bumblebee which i had before, yes
[21:53] <TJ-> Gotolei: OK, xorg.conf  looks fine.
[21:53] <kelledin> i just went through a complete reinstall, booted with systemd.unit=multi-user.target, installed nvidia-340, ran "nvidia-xconfig", and rebooted...and it's right back to there
[21:53] <Gotolei-laptop> before the entire system was running fine on intel, and i only had to enable the nvidia gpu for games
[21:54] <Gotolei-laptop> and it would deactivate afterwards
[21:54] <Pop-Tart> Hi! I recently got an Ubuntu VPS, and I'm liking it very much. I tried to make a SSH tunnel using ssh -D 8080<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and I configured Firefox to use it as a proxy server for all protocols, but when I try to go to a website, I get an error: Secure Connection Failed. I haven't found anything after a quick Google search, any suggestions?
[21:54] <TJ-> Gotolei: Yes. Bumblebee is the name of the open-source project to manage these "Optimus" hybrid GPU hardware solutions. nvidia-prime is Nvidia's implementation and the preferred way of doing it now
[21:54] <kelledin> and i'm now 100% certain it's FOS, because it even flashed the nvidia logo before it gave me the "low graphics" dialog
[21:55] <Gotolei-laptop> i have nvidia-prime installed, but evidently it's not working
[21:55] <TJ-> kelledin: look at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log.old" for clues - that *should* be the log created when the X server tried to start in high-res mode
[21:56] <TJ-> Gotolei: So far I can't see any indications of a major problem in the log. However, I've always stayed away from these Optimus systems due to the complexity of the software drivers, so not 100% sure I'd spot a clue if it were in front of me
[21:57] <Gotolei-laptop> i don't have the patience for this, this install's getting old anyways
[21:58] <EriC^^> Gotolei-laptop: did you install the nvidia-prime package?
[21:58] <Gotolei> yes
[21:59] <Gotolei> it's been installed, rebooted, still broken
[21:59] <EriC^^> did you check the configuration program?
[21:59] <Gotolei> what configuration program
[21:59] <TJ-> EriC^^: log's look fine. The issue appears to be that the nvidia driver is initialising wth 640x480 since there's no output for it to read EDID from
[21:59] <EriC^^> open the dash and type nvidia
[21:59] <spencer_> hello,
[21:59] <TJ-> Gotolei: "nvidia-settings"
[22:01] <Gotolei> ok so what about it, i have it open
[22:01] <Nectar> Does anyone know how I can get screenfetch to run automatically in terminal?
[22:01] <Gotolei> assuming there's someone here that actually knows what they're talking about regarding optimus
[22:01] <EriC^^> that's pretty far fetched
[22:01] <OerHeks> Gotolei, howecome you have nvidia-settings 331.20-0ubuntu8 and driver 304 and 346 ... ?
[22:01] <Pop-Tart> Nectar: add screenfetch to your .bashrc
[22:02] <Nectar> just "screenfetch"
[22:02] <Gotolei> because this channel in general, i just purged everything nvidia* like half an hour ago
[22:02] <Pop-Tart> Open .bashrc with a text editor, and append 'screenfetch' to the bottom, no quotes.
[22:02] <Pop-Tart> When you open your terminal, screenfetch should run automatically.
[22:02] <Nectar> ill try. thanks
[22:02] <kelledin> TJ-: all I saw were Xorg.failsafe.* logs
[22:03] <kelledin> which all detailed fallback attempts (which used nouveau)
[22:03] <SuperLag> I don't understand how RDP can work into a box when you're remote, but a person sitting at the keyboard gets a black screen with a "No screens found" error in the Xorg log, and the Nvidia driver unloads.
[22:04] <kelledin> however, IF I reboot, go back to multi-user.target, and run startx from the console...I get a proper X screen
[22:04] <kelledin> from which I can then view /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:04] <Pop-Tart> Anyone have ideas on why my SSH tunnel isn't working?
[22:04] <TJ-> Gotolei: Does nvidia-settings show you something like this? http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tzkJfRoEUv0/UzPxLPdSMEI/AAAAAAAAR98/_BH6cZ5f-18/s1600/ubuntu14.04-nvidia-settings-prime.png
[22:04] <kelledin> and verify that it has successfully loaded the "nvidia" driver
[22:05] <OerHeks> sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall # is so much easier on 15.04
[22:05] <Gotolei-laptop> https://i.imgur.com/VqhNPiN.png
[22:05] <Gotolei-laptop> vaguely
[22:06] <TJ-> Gotolei: that's reassuring, confirms settings sees the Prime facility
[22:06] <Gotolei-laptop> https://i.imgur.com/30ipfpk.png
[22:06] <kelledin> so either the nvidia driver only fails when started from lightdm (which then stupidly wipes the relevant Xorg log)
[22:06] <kelledin> or lightdm is spitting out the "low-graphics" warning without legitimate cause
[22:06] <TJ-> Gotolei: on the "X sever display configuration" does it show the monitor with the correct resolution? And secondly, does it still show that correct resolution if you select the Nvidia GPU for Prime?
[22:07] <TJ-> kelledin: See "/var/log/lightdm/*" for the Xorg logs from the DM and greeter
[22:08] <Gotolei-laptop> https://i.imgur.com/79USvYK.png
[22:08] <TJ-> Gotolei: any change if you press "Detect Displays" ?
[22:09] <Gotolei-laptop> nope
[22:09] <TJ-> Gotolei: because that screen capture shows the problem as is... because the nvidia side has not found a monitor it adopts a very small default physical dimension and pixel resolution
[22:10] <kelledin> TJ-: also empty
[22:11] <EriC^^> Gotolei-laptop: what does xrandr output?
[22:12] <Gotolei-laptop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12010129/
[22:12] <TJ-> Gotolei: I've found a lead. Apparently, for prime, a config file in the user's home directory contains commands that should be run at log-in. Can you "pastebinit ~/.xsessionrc"
[22:12] <notfowl> audio skips in ubuntu 15.04 how what do i fix it
[22:13] <Gotolei-laptop> i don't have an .xsessionrc
[22:13] <TJ-> Gotolei: hmmm, can you "pastebinit ~/.xsession-errors"
[22:13] <gnome-shell> quit
[22:14] <EriC^^> Gotolei-laptop: type xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1600x1900
[22:14] <Gotolei-laptop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12010151/
[22:15] <Gotolei-laptop> ok so now i'm 1600x900
[22:15] <coennek> f
[22:15] <kelledin> oooh...wait a minute
[22:16] <TJ-> Gotolei: right. The clues I found suggest the commands to do that are supposed to be in .xsessionrc... but it isn't clear what is supposed to create that file, or keep it updated
[22:16] <kelledin> apparently lightdm.conf was broken
[22:16] <TJ-> kelledin: well spotted :)
[22:17] <EriC^^> Gotolei-laptop: you don't have those resolutions in settings > display?
[22:18] <Gotolei-laptop> i didn't have them before
[22:18] <Gerowen> One observation I've noticed with Ubuntu 15.04 compared to 14.04.  When the system is under load by one application, the whole GUI (Unity/LightDM) seems to hang up, mouse stops moving and everything.  CTRL+ALT+F1 works find and is responsive.  Any ideas as to what changed to cause this?
[22:19] <Gotolei-laptop> so what now, i expect it'll revert to 640x480 once i reboot
[22:19] <EriC^^> set it from settings > display
[22:20] <Gotolei-laptop> it is set
[22:20] <Gotolei-laptop> now it is at least
[22:20] <EriC^^> set something, then set it again
[22:21] <TJ-> Gotolei: Did you say you're using Xubuntu/XFCE?
[22:22] <Gotolei-laptop> yes
[22:23] <TJ-> Gotolei: OK... that depends on lightdm. I'm not sure how relevant this is, but I've just read that one of the requirements for 14.04 Nvidia Prime is lighdm - which might infer that some additional lightdm configuration/scripting is done to support the hybrid graphics ... which may not be working for you
[22:24] <TJ-> Gotolei: did you install 14.04 fresh or is it an upgrade from a previous release?
[22:24] <Gotolei-laptop> fresh, albeit eight months ago
[22:24] <TJ-> Gotolei: Good :) .. and you had Bumblebee on originally
[22:24] <Gotolei-laptop> yes
[22:25] <Gotolei-laptop> as far as i understand lightdm is a Unity thing
[22:25] <TJ-> Gotolei: I noticed that nvidia-prime installs /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/90-nvidia.conf - can you pastebin that file for us?
[22:25] <TJ-> Gotolei: no, Light(weight) Display Manager (DM)
[22:26] <Gotolei-laptop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12010208/
[22:27] <TJ-> Gotolei: OK, that looks fine
[22:28] <Gotolei-laptop> so i want those commands to run when i log in, is what i'm gathering
[22:28] <Gotolei-laptop> or whatever the command equivalents are
[22:28] <ubuntu130> I just installed ubuntu, but now it's updating to 15.04. Will that also fix my sound? In unbuntu my sound isn't working. Perhaps it didn't read my drivers?
[22:29] <TJ-> Gotolei: Those commands are executed when the X server starts. From what I'm inferring, the 'xrandr --output ..." command EriC^^ gave you is probably needed when the user session starts, but it's not clear - can't find documentation on it
[22:29] <wileee> ubuntu130, No auto updates in ubuntu, are you sure of the install release, or hit an upgrade?
[22:29] <TJ-> Gotolei: I'm wondering if there's any leftover from Bumblebee interfering here. Can you "ls -al /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/"
[22:30] <skinux> Is there a library for using Java with Ubuntu to build panel Applets?
[22:30] <wileee> ubuntu130, Sorry auto release upgrades
[22:30] <Gotolei-laptop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12010228/
[22:30] <ubuntu130> I started with an older version, but almost as soon as I finished installing, it threw "upgrade to 15.04" at me
[22:30] <ubuntu130> So that's running
[22:30] <TJ-> skinux: I've never seen or heard of anything along those lines
[22:31] <Gotolei-laptop> in what way is nvidia-prime 'preferred' if it doesn't work without a million extra steps
[22:31] <ubuntu130> Of course, an update is always good, I'm just wanting to get my old everything working, sound, browser, etc before I really do a whole lot else
[22:31] <TJ-> Gotolei: OK, and how about the package-installed alternative: "ls -la usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/"
[22:31] <kelledin> lol, apparently an internal preseed generated a broken lightdm.conf
[22:31] <wileee> ubuntu130, that is just done depending on how you have the computer set, you don;t have to upgrade? Unless you installed an eol, what was the install?
[22:31] <ubuntu130> 14.something?
[22:32] <ubuntu130> I don't have any reason to not upgrade at this point.
[22:32] <Gotolei-laptop> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12010235/
[22:32] <TJ-> Gotolei: Usually it does work with a clean install... problems mainly seem to be when driver versions are changed or bumblebee has been used previously. The whole area of hybrid graphics is a minefield though
[22:32] <wileee> ubuntu130, Well 14.04 is supported 14.10 id eol, which is it?
[22:32] <wileee> is*
[22:32] <Gotolei-laptop> the driver automatically upgrading is what broke things in the first place
[22:33] <TJ-> Gotolei: Good, no obviously stray files there. What we need is someone with a working prime config we can compare against
[22:33] <Gotolei-laptop> 331/bumblebee worked fantastic for eight months straight
[22:33] <wileee> ubuntu130, We are running in circles, is i you want us to guess if this upgrade fixes your problem?
[22:33] <wileee> it*
[22:33] <ubuntu130> No, not really. That's way unreasonable to ask.
[22:33] <TJ-> Gotolei: yeah, it's damned annoying
[22:34] <wileee> ubuntu130, Than if you can give adequate details and an end goal, we are going nowhere. ;)
[22:34] <ubuntu130> I'm just new to it and trying to figure out what all the things are. Like getting a new came control, everything just feels weird for a while
[22:34] <ubuntu130> game control*
[22:35] <wileee> can;t help there, best of luck takes a bit to get orientated, you will be fine. ;Z)
[22:35] <ubuntu130> I hope so. I figure it can't be THAT hard. It will probably be easier once the new version is installed and I can look at things a bit more.
[22:35] <EriC^^> Gotolei-laptop: try rebooting, who knows, if it doesn't stick you can always run the command by putting it in ~/.profile or so, and in the mean time TJ- could very well get to the bottom of the problem
[22:36] <ubuntu130> It's a pretty big update though, it's been loading for 20 minutes or so
[22:36] <ubuntu130> Then again, that's not too surprising given that I just added the OS
[22:36] <TJ-> Gotolei: I've just listed all the files in bumblebee since my hunch is that one or more is left behind and interfering. This command "pastebinit <(apt-file list bumblebee)" gives this list http://paste.ubuntu.com/12010261/
[22:37] <wileee> ubuntu130, takes about 3-4 hours here on an upgrade, I just do fresh installs.
[22:37] <skinux> Well, I downloaded and installed an "Applet" in Python that puts weather at the top....like to be able to do that using Java.
[22:37] <ubuntu130> Guess I've got some time to kill
[22:37] <skinux> Not specifically the weather part.
[22:37] <kostkon> skinux, you could also ask in #ubuntu-app-devel
[22:37] <skinux> Oh, okay.
[22:37] <EriC^^> TJ-: maybe apt-get purge bumblebee to remove the config files?
[22:37] <EriC^^> TJ-: or dpkg -P perhaps?
[22:38] <TJ-> Gotolei: I suggested checking that the first 10 files at least, are no longer in your system, since some may be used when the X server starts
[22:38] <TJ-> EriC^^: Yes, but it would be nice to know which, if any, are present and causing this. We see users suffer this from time to time and never pin-pointed the cause
[22:38] <wileee> ubuntu130, If all goes well, it should, you will be asked at the end to discard any apps/packages replaced b y new versions and not supported, you can go yes or no, not a huge issue.
[22:39] <EriC^^> yeah
[22:39]  * TJ- is making a very strong coffee :)
[22:40]  * wileee slips a few espresso shots to add
[22:40] <ubuntu130> I suppose till that happens, I'll lay down or play mariokart. Best not to poke at things that are changing things
[22:42] <wileee> ubuntu is pretty good for easy running and has all the tools to break and fix at will ;)
[22:42] <JOW> hey guys, I wanna set an environmental variable permanently, how do I do that?
[22:43] <JOW> when I use export it is set only temporarily
[22:43] <Gotolei> yay, everything crashing to high heaven
[22:43] <EriC^^> JOW: just for your user?
[22:43] <JOW> hummm yes Eric
[22:43] <JOW> actually for any users
[22:44] <EriC^^> JOW: oh, add it to /etc/environment
[22:44] <JOW> what file?
[22:44] <EriC^^> /etc/environment
[22:44] <EriC^^> sudo nano /etc/environment
[22:47] <JOW> Eric, it opens an open file
[22:47] <JOW> sudo nano /etc/environment opens an empty file
[22:47] <JOW> *empty no open
[22:47] <JOW> *ot
[22:47] <JOW> *nopt
[22:47] <JOW> *not
[22:48] <doctorly> I am using Ubuntu 14.04, how do I map keys by keycode?
[22:50] <EriC^^> JOW: are you using ubuntu?
[22:50] <JOW> yes
[22:50] <JOW> 14.04
[22:51] <EriC^^> add it to /etc/bashrc.bashrc i guess
[22:51] <EriC^^> *bash.bashrc
[22:51] <JOW> isn't it setup.bashrc or something?
[22:52] <EriC^^> nop
[22:52] <TJ-> remember that the shell-specific  won't apply system-wide if an alternative shell is used
[22:55] <badbodh> what about .profile ?
[22:56] <badbodh>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.0.0-2-amd64 x86_64 ** Distro: Debian stretch/sid ** CPU: 2 x Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU       T4300  @ 2.10GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 2.10GHz ** RAM: Physical: 3.8GiB, 81.5% free ** Disk: Total: 293.5GiB, 17.9% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel ** Ethernet: 645 HiFier Serenade III ** Uptime: 9h 27m 6s **
[22:56] <badbodh> woops, ignore that
[22:57] <wileee> 5 lines I will try ;)
[22:57] <JOW> okay guys, i solved
[22:57] <EriC^^> awesome
[22:58] <JOW> actually I changed my ~/.bashrc
[22:58] <EriC^^> that's just for your user though
[22:58] <JOW> yeah, okay that's fine
[22:58] <EriC^^> cool
[22:59] <JOW> Thanks =)
[22:59] <mioso> Whenever I am prompted for a Keyring password, should I be updating or changing it?
[22:59] <EriC^^> JOW: np :)
[23:00] <badbodh> mioso, keyring shouldn't ask for it if you don't keep changing it
[23:00] <mioso> I've never changed it/updated it? It just started showing up
[23:00] <badbodh> gnome's keyring by default uses your user password, unlike kde's wallet that needs separate pass
[23:00] <badbodh> if you changes your user pass, it will ask once
[23:01] <mioso> I don't know what it is and I'm hesitant to just type in a password from something that's unknown to be but it sounds like I should just do whatever the keyring prompt asks me to do
[23:03] <badbodh> enter your user pass once, that should shut it up. it shows up on login or any specific app triggers it ?
[23:03] <nimbiotics> I have an Ubuntu 14.04LTS VBox. A while ago I accessed it via ssh with Putty and all went well but now I cannot access my ubuntu VBox. I enter my passwords, it plays the music indicating I'm logged in, clears the screen and then goes back to the login screen. I can still access my VBox via ssh with Putty, but I cannot access it directly. Any ideas how to fix this? TIA!
[23:04] <TJ-> mioso: If the user account password is no longer in sync with the keyring password you'll have to be asked for the keyring password when things like the WiFi passphrase are required
[23:05] <mioso> TJ I've always just pressed cancel and nothing happens. I'll type somethign in next time.
[23:06] <badbodh> does this channel handle vbox, ssh and putty stuff ?
[23:06] <TJ-> mioso: Have you changed your user account password at some point since the account was originally created? That is the usual cause
[23:06] <mioso> No. I just installed 15.04 two days ago
[23:06] <TJ-> nimbiotics: sounds like maybe the $HOME/.Xauthority file may need removing
[23:07] <earl__> does this channel do help?
[23:07] <TJ-> mioso: OK, so it looks like the keyring hasn't had its password set. I recommend setting it to the same as the user account... that should stop the manual prompts
[23:09] <Bashing-om> earl__: Yeah, ubuntu help is what we do .
[23:10] <earl__> Awesome. So I am running windows 10. I created a live Ubuntu USB, and through a long, difficult process have installed Ubuntu.
[23:10] <badbodh> long and difficult :D you should try gentoo or arch sometime
[23:11] <earl__> Now, I have a few issues. When I boot, I'm met with a "grub> " command line and I have to type "exit" to get out and get to windows
[23:11] <EriC^^> earl__: are you dual booting?
[23:11] <badbodh> turn off secureboot
[23:12] <mioso> TJ I type in keyring in the search and there's like PGP, private key, GnuPG, OpenSSH, etc? Should I type in the same password for all of those?
[23:12] <earl__> Good question. I installed Ubuntu to an external hd. when i installed, I made a EFI partition, a swap partition and an etf4 partition
[23:12] <TJ-> mioso: I think the keyring we're on about is controlled by the application "seahorse" - try searching for that
[23:12] <earl__> the short of it is that it is on an external hard drive. Secure boot is set to off
[23:13] <badbodh> mioso, no. just the first one named 'login' needs your user pass
[23:13] <EriC^^> earl__: boot a live usb and come back here
[23:13] <EriC^^> earl__: did you install ubuntu twice?
[23:14] <TJ-> mioso: if you're already in Seahorse then see what badbodh said above
[23:14] <earl__> EriC^^, I am currently on Ubuntu on the ext HD, so it's working. Also, interesting question. I went into the UEFI settings and there were two identical ubuntu boot options it seemed
[23:14] <earl__> so i could have installed twice, possiblt
[23:15] <EriC^^> earl__: that's normal, one is for nonsecureboot the other is for secureboot
[23:15] <mioso> I don't see seahorse
[23:15] <EriC^^> earl__: how did you boot into ubuntu on the ext hdd?
[23:15] <mioso> nothing named login
[23:15] <nimbiotics> TJ-: How can I fix that?
[23:15] <earl__> Power on, grub> comes up, I typed exit, select Ubuntu
[23:16] <TJ-> mioso: I assumed when you said "search" you meant from the Desktop dashboard, is that correct?
[23:16] <mioso> yers
[23:16] <EriC^^> earl__: oh, type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:16] <EriC^^> then sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[23:16] <earl__> EriC^^, ok one second..
[23:18] <earl__> EriC^^, done
[23:18] <EriC^^> link?
[23:18] <earl__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12010494/
[23:19] <earl__> The Seagate would be the External HD EriC^^
[23:19] <Gerowen> Anybody have any ideas why Unity seems to be incredibly laggy after a clean install of 15.04 compared to how it behaved in 14.04?  If the system is under any significant load, the whole desktop gets slow and jittery.
[23:19] <arthurfiggis> hello :) i'm wondering if anyone has run into the following problem, in every flavour of ubuntu 15.04 i've tried so far, if full disk encryption is enabled, i can't type in the password to decrypt with a wireless keyboard...it will only work with a wired USB keyboard, once getting past that screen the wireless one works as expected?
[23:19] <EriC^^> earl__: what else is on it?
[23:19] <TJ-> mioso: OK, I'm not sure what Unity might be calling it, but the underlying application for managing key pairs and passwords is "seahorse"
[23:19] <earl__> Nothing EriC^^, after much trouble, I caved and cleaned it off. If I need to wipe it it's fine
[23:19] <i_am_a_dunce> hi guys
[23:20] <badbodh> Gerowen, make sure you have correct gcard drivers. also go to controlcenter>privacy> turn of online search
[23:20] <i_am_a_dunce> does anyone know how to get the OUTPUT of the most recent bash commands?
[23:20] <i_am_a_dunce> i tried scrolling up
[23:20] <i_am_a_dunce> but don't have enough of it
[23:20] <EriC^^> earl__: are you sure csm legacy mode is disabled?
[23:20] <TJ-> mioso: there's an overview of what to expect here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays/01232010/SeahorseGPG
[23:20] <badbodh> Gerowen, you can also disable dash plugin/scopes you don't use.
[23:20] <earl__> EriC^^, no idea.
[23:20] <EriC^^> earl__: usually uefi is used with gpt partitions
[23:20] <earl__> I am a bit of a newb.
[23:21] <i_am_a_dunce> if it's not available when i scroll up, does that mean it's gone forever?
[23:21] <Gerowen> badbodh: Intel card, drivers seem to work good, because I can play my Steam games with no issues, and the online search is disabled.  It's not just the menu, it's the whole interface.  The mouse and everything will slow down to a crawl, even CTRL+ALT+F1 will take 30-45 seconds to respond sometimes.
[23:21] <EriC^^> earl__: ok, well as it is ubuntu is dependent on your other hdd to boot
[23:21] <Gerowen> badbodh: No additional drivers listed under Software and Sources.
[23:21] <mioso> TJ thank you. I'll look through that.
[23:21] <EriC^^> earl__: my advice would be to make a new partition table that's gpt, and install ubuntu there using its own efi partition and have the bootmanager boot it
[23:21] <badbodh> Gerowen, ok. then install 'htop', if things lag got to tty shell, run htop and check what's eating up.
[23:22] <EriC^^> and then select windows from grub
[23:22] <earl__> The goal was to make it so that, if I plugged in the ext HD before boot, my computer would boot to Ubuntu. If I left the ext HD unplugged from USB, then I'd boot to windows @ EriC^^
[23:22] <Bashing-om> i_am_a_dunce: The file is at " /var/log/apt/history.log " .
[23:22] <EriC^^> earl__: yeah that'll work
[23:22] <badbodh> Gerowen, you can also install lm-sensor, run 'sudo sensors-detect' to set up temperature monitor. check if cpu is running hot.
[23:23] <earl__> From what I understood, I wanted to put the ubuntu boot manager on the ext HD
[23:23] <i_am_a_dunce> Bashing-on: that appears to just be the apt log?
[23:23] <i_am_a_dunce> i ran an ls command
[23:23] <i_am_a_dunce> and would love to see its output
[23:23] <ElDiablito> i_am_a_dunce: cat .bash_history|less
[23:24] <TJ-> mioso: try pressing Alt+F2 and then the command "seahorse" ... that should start it, and if the password required to unlock its keyring isn't the same as the user password, it will ask you to type the password. Once done, edit the Passwords > Login entry, and set it to the same as the user account password
[23:24] <i_am_a_dunce> i'm trying to see the output of an ls command
[23:24] <badbodh> Gerowen, run "acpi -V" to check temp
[23:24] <i_am_a_dunce> i know what command I ran
[23:24] <i_am_a_dunce> but the contents of that directory somehow changed, not sure how
[23:24] <i_am_a_dunce> and i would love to compare the old contents to the new contents
[23:24] <Gerowen> badbodh: Just ran sensors, running about 40 celsius right now, but right now all is well.
[23:24] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: if the terminal scrollback buffer no longer contains the output, then it has gone
[23:24] <i_am_a_dunce> fuck me sideways.
[23:25] <xochilpili> hi all
[23:25] <badbodh> Gerowen, ok. usually mouse lag occurs when temp id too high or ram is too low
[23:25] <i_am_a_dunce> excuse my language
[23:25] <TJ-> !language | i_am_a_dunce
[23:25] <i_am_a_dunce> I apologize.
[23:25] <Gotolei-laptop> back again
[23:25] <i_am_a_dunce> I just lost like, 300+ files, and don't even know what those are at this point
[23:25] <Bashing-om> i_am_a_dunce: Lemme check. This is a file for the history . Be beack soonest.
[23:25] <earl__> So EriC^^ pardon my limited knowledge, but what should I do for next steps
[23:25] <mioso> I'll have to find a keyboard F keys. I have a ducky mini :(
[23:25] <Gotolei-laptop> things are running more or less well, but how is nvidia-prime preferred over bumblebee?
[23:25] <ElDiablito> i_am_a_dunce: ls <your parameters> > output.txt
[23:25] <badbodh> i_am_a_dunce, you cannot see past outputs of bash, you can however see past commands by pressing 'up' key in terminal
[23:26] <Gotolei-laptop> it's worse in every way as far as i can tell
[23:26] <Gerowen> badbodh: I had already installed htop in an attempt to find the culprit earlier, but I'll just try to narrow down the culprit best I can.  I've got 4 GB of RAM, so surely it's not low RAM, then again if I'm extracting a 6.2 GB archive, maybe that is it, I've been recovering all my personal files from the upgrade, and they're stored in fairly large tarballs.
[23:26] <i_am_a_dunce> i know I should have done that. but i didn't think anything would happen so i didn't output them like an idiot
[23:26] <i_am_a_dunce> if the terminal scrollback doesn't have them, they're gone forever?
[23:26] <i_am_a_dunce> 100%?
[23:26] <EriC^^> earl__: boot the live usb, make a fresh partition table using cgdisk, create the efi partition, 300mb, hexcode ef00, run mkfs.fat to make a fat32 filesystem there and in the ubuntu installer select Something else, make a root partition, select the hdd's efi partition you made, make sure th bootloader location at the bottom is correct
[23:26] <ElDiablito> i_am_a_dunce: I guess they are gone, you're right ...
[23:26] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: unless you've got some form of back-up in operation, yes
[23:27] <badbodh> Gerowen, hard disk usage also eats up cpu, if you have ntfs volumes notice 'mount-ntfs' or 'mount-ntfs-3g' in htop will be high cpu eater
[23:27] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: a better question is, how did you delete those files?
[23:27] <i_am_a_dunce> I tried using a Rhythmbox plugin called 'File Oragnizer'
[23:27] <i_am_a_dunce> Should've backed up first
[23:27] <i_am_a_dunce> I have no idea where they disapepared to
[23:28] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: "Fileorganizer is a Rhythmbox Plugin that will move and rename files according to your tags and then update the database so you don’t lose your ratings and play counts. "
[23:28] <badbodh> i_am_a_dunce, likely you lost them forver. some apps do save log, they are usually in /var/log.
[23:29] <i_am_a_dunce> Yes, but my directory had 600 files and now it has 450 so I'm very confused lol
[23:29] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: So, my reading is your files are somewhere better organised! What directory did you 'lose' the files from?
[23:29] <badbodh> it may have deleted duplicate ones. do note 'untagged' files may be mistaken as duplicates too
[23:30] <earl__> EriC^^, so essentially reinstalling Ubuntu
[23:30] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: I suspect that FO may have renamed the files based on their ID3 tags, and maybe moved them under $HOME/Music/
[23:30] <i_am_a_dunce> woooooooow TJ great call man
[23:30] <i_am_a_dunce> all of the files somehow ended up in one directory in Music
[23:30] <EriC^^> earl__: yeah
[23:30] <nimbiotics> TJ-: Sorry, I had not read your comment properly. Now I do not have a $HOME/.Xauthority file. Any other ideas?
[23:30] <i_am_a_dunce> but definitely not based on the tags lol
[23:30] <i_am_a_dunce> my tags are proper
[23:31] <i_am_a_dunce> but anyways, yeah, taht was the issue
[23:31] <i_am_a_dunce> <3
[23:31] <i_am_a_dunce> thanks guys
[23:31] <i_am_a_dunce> saved me from a maaaaajor panic attack
[23:31] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: See this link http://askubuntu.com/questions/112668/how-do-i-force-rhythmbox-to-automatically-organise-my-music-files-into-folders
[23:31] <i_am_a_dunce> see but here's the weird thing
[23:32] <i_am_a_dunce> all the files are properly tagged in rhythmbox
[23:32] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: it shows a config dialog box with a log-file ... if you lose files again just check that log-file!
[23:32] <earl__> EriC^^, well I'll try to understand all those steps :p. Thanks for the help! I'll be back hopefully
[23:32] <i_am_a_dunce> or anyways, appear to be
[23:32] <i_am_a_dunce> but when i move them
[23:32] <i_am_a_dunce> with fileorganizer
[23:32] <i_am_a_dunce> they all moved to the same directory
[23:33] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: there are several versions of ID tags.. some files may have differing versions or more than 1 version attached, and the tools have different heuristics on deciding which to use... So a tool expecting IDv3 processing a file with IDv2 sees no tag
[23:33] <i_am_a_dunce> right on. any way i can get the tags that rhythmbox sees to be the ID3 tags?
[23:33] <i_am_a_dunce> because...
[23:33] <i_am_a_dunce> every song is properly tagged with Rhythmbox (i did so manually)
[23:33] <j3r0> guys in a dual boot how do I reinstall ubuntu ?(after format)
[23:34] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: Years ago I used a tool that would correct all the tags and ensure each version of ID was present, and it was very programmable. Can't remember its name now
[23:35] <i_am_a_dunce> I'll look into it
[23:35] <i_am_a_dunce> Thanks guys :)
[23:35] <Johnny_Linux> easytag or entagged
[23:35] <TJ-> I think I'm thinking of around 2001 ... Tag&Rename on Windows :)
[23:36] <j3r0> https://askubuntu.com/questions/657045/toshiba-satellite-c50-dual-boot-windows-8-1-and-ubuntu-14-04-ubuntu-connects-t
[23:36] <i_am_a_dunce> easytag didn't really work for me
[23:36] <i_am_a_dunce> or anyways, didn't pick up the files i tagged with rhythmbox
[23:36] <i_am_a_dunce> like, according to rhythmbox, all my songs are properly tagged
[23:36] <i_am_a_dunce> but not according to easytag
[23:39] <i_am_a_dunce> this is so bizarre
[23:39] <i_am_a_dunce> lol
[23:42] <xochilpili> i came here, because i couldnt find anything about this: i have a preseed file im trying to make an unattendant installation but no desktop just minimal, i have set this : tasksel tasksel/first   multiselect; but i got this : "Package selecction" then when i hit enter: debian-installer menu select; how can i fix this?
[23:42] <xochilpili> sorry by my english
[23:42] <ubuntu383> Alright, so 15.04 finally managed to update and install.
[23:42] <xochilpili> or how can i skip this select packages to install?
[23:45] <i_am_a_dunce> how can i find all files with no extensions?
[23:45] <i_am_a_dunce> i think that might be the issue; some of the music doens't have an extension for whatever reason
[23:45] <xochilpili> anyone?
[23:46] <wileee> xochilpili, debian?
[23:46] <xochilpili> wileee, ubuntu
[23:47] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: "find /path/to/base/dir -regex '.*[^\.].*'  "
[23:48] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: scratch that, wrong :)
[23:49] <i_am_a_dunce> see the thing is, a lot of these files do have .'s in them
[23:49] <i_am_a_dunce> so it's probably not doable
[23:49] <i_am_a_dunce> i'll just do it manually (filter out mp3's and mp4a's first)
[23:49] <ubuntu383> is it probable that after installing ubuntu, my drivers will need changed for things like sound or graphics?
[23:53] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: "find /path/to/base/dir  -regextype posix-extended ! -regex '.+[.].+'  "
[23:54] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: you can identify files by content rather than by name
[23:55] <JayBau> what do you guys play on linux?
[23:56] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: as in "find $HOME/Music -execdir file --mime {} \; | grep 'audio/mpeg'  "
[23:58] <i_am_a_dunce> ooh cheers
[23:59] <JayBau> I'm just using linux to host, but not for playing windows, but I decided to have my desktop running with linux. problem is not sure what to play :D