[23:08] <hullo> hello, i've got a little problem  I updated ubuntu, installed vmware and i think one of those patched my kernel then a couple weeks later i restarted my machine and since then grub no longer finds my hard drive when booting
[23:08] <sebsebseb> sileni: that is only for the CD itself, not it's contents
[23:08] <glick> how cna i get my empathy icon back on my panel?
[23:09] <ctmjr> ae86-drifter: you using gnome?
[23:09] <ae86-drifter> ctmjr, yes i am
[23:09] <unkmar> Chun: ask ActionParsnip. He appears to know more about that than I.
[23:09] <ae86-drifter> i am SSH into my pc
[23:09] <Roasted> I got a question about ACLs here - How do they integrate with the UGO permissions within Linux? Who takes priority?
[23:09] <alexandre> jorik, unkmar the first one is /dev/sda7 on / type ext4
[23:10] <sebsebseb> mwaty: have  a read of  the stuff I just put to sileni  since that should be useful for you as well
[23:10] <jorik> alexandre: then its already mounted, you dont/cant mount it again
[23:10] <ctmjr> ae86-drifter: you need to kill gdm then start x /etc/init.d/gdm stop then startx
[23:10] <glick> anyone?
[23:10] <glick> know how i can get the envelope back that showed my empathy messages?
[23:10] <ae86-drifter> ctmjr, could i lever X running on my server and still use it from SSH?
[23:10] <kcj1993> how do i get to another channel in xchat?
[23:11] <rumpel_> kcj1993,
[23:11] <rumpel_> kcj1993, /join #channelname
[23:11] <moparirc_X7PFk> hello?
[23:11] <alexandre> jorik, so how do i access it? typing /dev/sda7 return permission denied
[23:11] <kcj1993> rumpel_, where do i put that?
[23:11] <jorik> alexandre: all files on /dev/sda7 are in /
[23:12] <jorik> alexandre: its your root filesystem
[23:12] <moparirc_X7PFk> I have a question about VPS with HyperVM and Ubuntu Server
[23:12] <mrXX> is there ipod touch support in ubuntu?
[23:12] <Fat_Tony> hi, is there a way to force ubuntu to remove a package that has dependency problems?
[23:12] <unkmar> alexandre: you are already accessing or using files in /
[23:12] <epinky> innomen: there should be some info  on /etc/network/interfaces , check with "sudo  more /etc/wpa_supplicant/wireless.conf"
[23:12] <sebsebseb> mrXX: no not exactly
[23:12] <alexandre> no, i am in my home directory
[23:12] <alexandre> alexandre@pc
[23:12] <sebsebseb> mrXX: if you must have that though, I suggest a Windows virtual machine
[23:12] <seige36> can someone help me setup an adhoc network un kubuntu please?
[23:12] <coachz> virtual box ftw !
[23:12] <unkmar> alexandre: "cd /" ls
[23:13] <holden_> Fat_Tony: yes, with dpkg
[23:13] <masterfishslayer> can anyone direct me to where a relative newbie can ask usb persistent startup questions?
[23:13] <platius> glick;  right click on the empathy icon in the applications menu and choose add to panel
[23:13] <kcj1993> rumpel_ , where do i enter that text?
[23:13] <mrXX> sebsebseb is there any way to jailbreak it in ubuntu? cause i tried in windows7 and got unsuccessful
[23:13] <ae86-drifter> kcj1993, just write it !
[23:13] <ae86-drifter> and press enter
[23:13] <kcj1993> where?
[23:13] <ae86-drifter> rignht now
[23:13] <ae86-drifter> now
[23:13] <alexandre> unkmar, it return Desktop, Documents, Downloads, Music...
[23:13] <ae86-drifter> where ytour tyoping
[23:13] <glick> i really dont like the indicator icon
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> !ipod | mrXX
[23:13] <moparirc_X7PFk> I want to run a java server with Ubuntu Server, I connect through SSH and start it up, then I close SSH, and the server goes down. Is there a way to make it so it does not do this, and my server can run, even if MY computer does not have PuTTY open?
[23:14] <glick> is there anyway i can just have an empahy icon when empathy is minimized?
[23:14] <Fat_Tony> holden_, oh, thanks, I'll take a look at that
[23:14] <glick> the indicator icon i find kind of confusing
[23:14] <sebsebseb> mrXX: as far as I know, we are not meant to help with stuff like that in here, or else where on the network for that matter
[23:14] <unkmar> alexandre: cd /; ls
[23:14] <mrXX> sebsebseb is there any particular room?
[23:14] <holden_> Fat_Tony: dpkg --force-help
[23:14] <alexandre> unkmar, i get it. two commands
[23:14] <alexandre> i did it
[23:14] <alexandre> still in the same place
[23:14] <chamillion> I could use DVD+RW discs to burn movies, Linux distros, and music?
[23:14] <moparirc_X7PFk> can anyone help me?
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> moparirc_X7PFk: you can use screen for that
[23:15] <seige36> can someone help me setup an adhoc network un kubuntu please?
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> chamillion: yes
[23:15] <moparirc_X7PFk> what do you man ActionParsnip
[23:15] <sebsebseb> mrXX: plus if you do that it could possibily get infected with a virus,  that happended to ones in Australlia it was in the news.  and one that woudn't just go away also after re installing the software on it
[23:15] <chamillion> Awesome! :)
[23:15] <moparirc_X7PFk> mean
[23:15] <thomas_newbie__> im trying to mount my external hard drive but its not showing up in /media....when I turn it on theres a message pops up asking me if I want to open the Unmounted external drive in a new window or do nothing...I select open and it does nothing...
[23:15] <epinky> masterfishslayer: do you mean LiveUSB persistent?
[23:15] <seidos> seige36: yes
[23:15] <rumpel_> moparirc_X7PFk, you have to run it in background...
[23:15] <ae86-drifter> can i run 2 instances of X SERVER??
[23:15] <masterfishslayer> yes
[23:16] <unkmar> alexandre: cd /; ls -la
[23:16] <ae86-drifter> one via SSH ?
[23:16] <Chun> The ubuntu iso download - is it updated at all after final release?
[23:16] <epinky> masterfishslayer:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> moparirc_X7PFk: i just hear you can use an app called screen to keep the app alive
[23:16] <moparirc_X7PFk> rumpel_ I dont keep my laptop running 24/7 thugh, but my server needs to be
[23:16] <thomas_newbie__> moparirc_X7PFk: what yo uusing your server for?
[23:16] <sebsebseb> mrXX: Windows virtual machine for it, and then you can also use itunes in it
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> ae86-drifter: sure
[23:16] <rumpel_> moparirc_X7PFk, i would suggest a startup-script...
[23:16] <ae86-drifter> ActionParsnip, how???
[23:17] <mom> are they planning to have pulse audio working on the next release?
[23:17] <ae86-drifter> it wont let me load X over SSH unless i close it on the server
[23:17] <kshah> hi, I'm looking for a recommendation for setting up a post-receive hook on an email daemon. daemon gets email => passes email onto a Ruby script
[23:17] <sebsebseb> mom: uhmm not sure
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> ae86-drifter: you can even plug 2 mice, 2 keyboards and 2 monitors into one system and make a dual seater
[23:17] <moparirc_X7PFk> rumpel_ Thats what I was trying to do, so when I start the VPS up, it will run
[23:17] <sebsebseb> mom: ,but yes  pulse audio issues since Ubuntu 8.04
[23:17] <unkmar> alexandre: pwd - lists present working directory.
[23:17] <seige36> seidos, im on a notebook i have two working wifi cards and i want to use my phones internet, if i get an adhoc connection up i can use the internet. kubuntu karmic
[23:17] <masterfishslayer> Installed it and was working fine...wife rebooted laptop...not exactly sure what she did - now loads all the way through the screen where i am asked for key ring then nothing
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> !dualhead | ae86-drifter
[23:17] <rick979> is there an official ubuntu site that lists the md5 for 8.0.4 rc?
[23:17] <thomas_newbie__> im trying to mount my external hard drive but its not showing up in /media....when I turn it on theres a message pops up asking me if I want to open the Unmounted external drive in a new window or do nothing...I select open and it does nothing...
[23:17] <sebsebseb> rick979: rc?? no the final?
[23:17] <ae86-drifter> ActionParsnip, i know but i'm doing dual head , lol
[23:17] <moparirc_X7PFk> rumpel_ How do I do that
[23:17] <ae86-drifter> i mean i am, but thats no issue
[23:17] <rumpel_> moparirc_X7PFk, i meant something like the
[23:17] <mom> sebsebseb, it seems to get worse for me
[23:17] <chamillion> where is the ubuntu.com website located?
[23:18] <sebsebseb> mom: Ubuntu has issues with it, but many other distros are rather fine with it
[23:18] <Chun> Is the ubuntu iso updated at all after final release?
[23:18] <rick979> sebsebseb: correct
[23:18] <rumpel_> moparirc_X7PFk, look for a tutorial for init.d-scripts
[23:18] <seige36> seidos, i have followed a few tuts and none of them work
[23:18] <sebsebseb> rick979: Why?  download and burn the final?
[23:18] <sebsebseb> rick979: after checking it
[23:18] <rick979> sebsebseb: can't
[23:18] <TheCougar> how do i with the gui interface map a path so it apears as a drive?
[23:18] <sebsebseb> rick979: why not?
[23:18] <moparirc_X7PFk> rumpel_ I do not have a long time to do this
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> ae86-drifter: if you are using an nvidia gfx card it can be setup in nvidia-settings
[23:18] <julio3> why does the regular install cd does not include raid support, instead we have to download an alternate cd that only has text base and it isrudimentary at best?
[23:18] <linuxguy2009> Ok Ill give this question another try today and see if anyone knows now. Is there any way to organise Ubuntu 9.10 netbook remix favorite launchers? I would love to be able to put internet apps side by side, audio/video players side by side etc. Anyone know if this is possible?
[23:18] <mom> sebsebseb, youd think theyd have audio working smoothly as a major priority
[23:18] <rick979> sebsebseb: slow connection and lack of time
[23:18] <epinky> thomas_newbie__: can you mount your external drive?
[23:19] <num1> /join #glob2
[23:19] <num1> \join #glob2
[23:19] <mido> how to install headers ?
[23:19] <thiebaude> i didn't think audio was broke
[23:19] <rumpel_> moparirc_X7PFk, then you have to start it everytime manually ^^
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> ae86-drifter: otherwise you may have to write some fancy things in xorg.conf
[23:19] <sebsebseb> mom: well hopefuly for 10.04 and if not hmm that's not good, not good at all, since it's the next Long Term Support release as well
[23:19] <ae86-drifter> ActionParsnip, there is NO issue running dual screens, thats fine, my issue is starting another instance of x server of X over SSH!!
[23:19] <rick979> sebsebseb: i'm not using it to do anything but debootstap the final
[23:19] <thomas_newbie__> epinky: yea no I wasn't able to
[23:19] <mom> they should rename the sebsebseb 8.04 was a lts as well
[23:19] <thomas_newbie__> epinky: or maybe I'm doing it wrong
[23:20] <TheCougar> i have a folder called thats in "/mnt/hgfs/downloads" and I want that to show up when i click on "computer" in that list is what i mean.
[23:20] <sebsebseb> mom: yes and 8.04 introduced puleaudio
[23:20] <rick979> sebsebseb: i just am concerned it may have been tampered with
[23:20] <thomas_newbie__> epinky: not sure which one in /dev it is
[23:20] <mido> guyz... how to install headers to my kernel?
[23:20] <sebsebseb> mom: the amount of times I did killall pulseaudio in the  shell
[23:20] <moparirc_X7PFk> rumpel_ But the thing is, is when I close the SSH client, it kills the server
[23:20] <mom> sebsebseb, do i really need it?  can i just do alsa instead?
[23:20] <erUSUL> mido: « sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) »
[23:20] <TheCougar> and when i right click and go to "make link" it tells me it doesn't support symbolic links.
[23:20] <thomas_newbie__> but epinky like i say a window pops up but when I say open in a new window nothign happens
[23:20] <sebsebseb> mom: I think  pulseaudio and alsa are linked some how now
[23:20] <gluxon> Hi, I was over at a friends house, trying to install ubuntu on their computer, however I kept getting Error #5 :(
[23:20] <epinky> thomas_newbie__: type on terminal "sudo fdisk -l" and check which it is
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> ae86-drifter: why not just use x forwarding for the individual app, rather than the whole desktop? I don't know about the full desktop, seems excessive
[23:21] <seidos> seige36: are you using a hub to connect multiple computers?
[23:21] <chamillion> I used to think kubuntu was better, but that was when I was going for better looks...Reminds me of Windows users.
[23:21] <mido> thanx eru
[23:21] <gluxon> Can anybody explain what was the problem?
[23:21] <rumpel_> moparirc_X7PFk, yes... because your process is bound to the running shell
[23:21] <rumpel_> erm
[23:21] <rumpel_> moparirc_X7PFk, enter "screen" and start then...
[23:21] <ae86-drifter> x forwarding??
[23:21] <ae86-drifter> what is that/
[23:21] <linuxguy2009> gluxon: Did you verify the CD?
[23:21] <moparirc_X7PFk> ill try that
[23:21] <moparirc_X7PFk> give me 1 minute
[23:21] <gluxon> linuxguy2009: Yeah.
[23:21] <ae86-drifter> all i want is a GUI over SSH
[23:22] <seige36>  seidos im using a router but i just want an ad-hoc network from kubuntu
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> ae86-drifter: where you run an app via ssh, but its displayed on the client system but runs on the ssh server
[23:22] <epinky> gluxon: error doing what, which part?
[23:22] <linuxguy2009> gluxon: What part of the install process did you get the error? partitioning, copying of files, cleaning up at the end etc?
[23:22] <gluxon> Installing, copying files.
[23:22] <moparirc_X7PFk> rumpel_ -bash: screen: Command not found
[23:22] <gluxon> at about 32%
[23:23] <gluxon> Using ubuntu 8.10.
[23:23] <gluxon> I know I should have used 9.10
[23:23] <gluxon> but I didn't have that in range.
[23:23] <gluxon> And figured I'd just update once it's installed.
[23:23] <sebsebseb> gluxon: 8.10 is fine for now
[23:23] <linuxguy2009> gluxon: Hmm I had nothing but trouble with 8.10 release.
[23:23] <sebsebseb> gluxon: it runs out of support in April I think though when 10.04 comes out
[23:23] <ae86-drifter> ActionParsnip, i can already do that
[23:23] <linuxguy2009> gluxon: Use 9.10 or even more reliable is the 8.04.3 LTS release.
[23:23] <ae86-drifter> but thats not a GUI.
[23:23] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009: other computer ethernet woudn't work with 8.10, but other then that, 8.10 a great release for me :)
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> ae86-drifter: then why do you need the full desktop?
[23:24] <gluxon> Yeah.
[23:24] <sebsebseb> gluxon: 9.04 is a good release
[23:24] <gluxon> I'm out of CD's :(
[23:24] <sebsebseb> gluxon: that's ok run 8.10 for now
[23:24] <gluxon> And I don't think I can get more :(
[23:24] <linuxguy2009> gluxon: got a flashdrive?
[23:24] <gluxon> Yeah.
[23:24] <sebsebseb> gluxon: buy some new CD's?  and  do a nice clean install when 10.04 comes out?
[23:25] <linuxguy2009> gluxon: unetbootin it.
[23:25] <i_is_broke> whats the dir, of source.list?
[23:25] <gluxon> My flash drive installs have been working fine.
[23:25] <ae86-drifter> ActionParsnip, because i want a GUI!!
[23:25] <gluxon> But it failed on two computers..
[23:25] <gluxon> :(
[23:25] <Roasted> I got a question about ACLs here - How do they integrate with the UGO permissions within Linux? Who takes priority?
[23:25] <labuser> Is there a way to force a program to stay in memory across sessions so that it will start faster for all users?
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> ae86-drifter: oh well, i have no idea about that. sorry
[23:25] <gluxon> Well, the regular install on the boot menu that pops up.
[23:25] <sebsebseb> gluxon: overall 8.10 has been my favourite release since 8.04
[23:25] <ae86-drifter> can somebody pls help me load a GUI over SSH
[23:25] <sebsebseb> gluxon: of course I don't run it now though
[23:25] <linuxguy2009> gluxon: Why the frown whats wrong now?
[23:26] <i_is_broke> ae86-drifter, why dont you tsc
[23:26] <gluxon> Well, I'm saying that I keep getting error #5 when installing on HD's.
[23:26] <gluxon> Never on USB! :D
[23:26] <ae86-drifter> i_is_broke, terminal svcs???
[23:26] <labuser> For example, after gedit is started, subsequent sessions start very quickly. I want to make it so that it starts quickly even after a reboot
[23:27] <linuxguy2009> gluxon: Use unetbootin to copy the ISO to the flashdrive. Boot the flashdrive and try to install from that instead and see what happens.
[23:27] <i_is_broke> terminal server client
[23:27] <sebsebseb> gluxon: errors such as?
[23:27] <gluxon> Let me find it.
[23:27] <ae86-drifter> i_is_broke, thats a good idea, i thought that was windows specific
[23:27] <ae86-drifter> thanks
[23:27] <VCoolio> i_is_broke: still looking for sources?  it's in /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:27] <fretegi_part_2> hi
[23:27] <fretegi_part_2> anyone know much a bout dvd ripping?
[23:27] <i_is_broke> VCoolio, ty
[23:28] <erUSUL> labuser: do not power off you comp. just hibernate (to ram or disk). warm caches all time ;P
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> fretegi_part_2: try acidrip
[23:28] <gluxon> Something like this.
[23:28] <gluxon> Failed to copy files   Error #5 input/output error
[23:28] <i_is_broke> VCoolio, i was going down the list in find.
[23:28] <fretegi_part_2> i got the ripper, had a few questions about setting up the ripper
[23:28] <histo> fretegi_part_2: what software are you using to rip?
[23:28] <fretegi_part_2> im using handbrake
[23:28] <sebsebseb> !piracy > fretegi_part_2
[23:28] <linuxguy2009> gluxon: Sounds like its unable to copy files. Probably due to bad burn, bad disk, dirt on surface of disk or lens.
[23:28] <histo> sebsebseb: its not piracy to back up your dvds
[23:29] <gluxon> Ah.
[23:29] <gluxon> Here's a good image I found :)
[23:29] <gluxon> http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5166/errorkf6.png
[23:29] <DrJanItor> hi. I just installed 9.10 on an old pentium iii laptop. The CPU is clocked 650Mhz but /proc/cpuinfo says it only runs on 160Mhz. What's the deal with that?
[23:29] <gluxon> It's the exact error.
[23:29] <linuxguy2009> gluxon: Clean the disk and maybe use a lens cleaner.
[23:29] <fretegi_part_2> and that is all i am doing
[23:29] <gluxon> Well, just saying, if it can boot up, why can't it copy?
[23:29] <sebsebseb> histo: well it is  for sure if they aren't originals
[23:30] <fretegi_part_2> they are my own dvds which i have purchased :)
[23:30] <gluxon> And I tried wiping it with my shirt, no luck.
[23:30] <histo> sebsebseb: did he say anything about that?
[23:30] <fretegi_part_2> anyhow, may i still ask my question?
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> DrJanItor: is it running stupendously slow?
[23:30] <linuxguy2009> gluxon: Do you have the CD there with you? Do a md5sum on it and paste the sum here for us to check.
[23:30] <linxeh> DrJanItor: is it a speedstep cpu ?
[23:30] <DrJanItor> ActionParsnip: yep
[23:30] <sebsebseb> fretegi_part_2: yes  of course,  as long as it's not piracy related
[23:30] <DrJanItor> linxeh: I guess so
[23:30] <gluxon> Uh.
[23:30] <gluxon> No :(
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> DrJanItor: hmm, let me websearch
[23:30] <linuxguy2009> gluxon: ok
[23:30] <gluxon> I wiped out their winxp :(
[23:31] <fretegi_part_2> ok great, thanks, sorry for the confusion.  I am ripping my media with handbrake, doing samples, working out optimization for wuality not file size
[23:31] <gluxon> So they had no OS.
[23:31] <gluxon> O_O
[23:31] <aboSamoor> Hi, I want your advice regarding which tiling manager i have to use ?
[23:31] <gluxon> So I had to leave the CD their so they actually had something to use...
[23:31] <fretegi_part_2> .avi, .mkv etc. those are just containers and the actual rip quality is more dependant on the codec used right?
[23:31] <DrJanItor> thx. I did some research but didnt come up with anything helpful
[23:31] <linuxguy2009> gluxon: If you burn a new one make sure to do a "md5sum /dev/cdrom" etc. Or verify boot option.
[23:31] <moparirc_X7PFk> rumpel_ "screen" was not recognized as a command
[23:31] <imatech> I'm trying to set up rdp between ubuntu hosts...what's the best way to do that?
[23:31] <aboSamoor> There are many, but I want the best compatible with ubuntu
[23:31] <rumpel_> moparirc_X7PFk, apt-get install screen
[23:32] <gluxon> okay :(
[23:32] <linxeh> DrJanItor: what doest dmidecode -t processor    show for current speed ?
[23:32] <gluxon> I'll try to get a new cd and use that..
[23:32] <fretegi_part_2> what format and codec is the best for absolute quality?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> DrJanItor: maybe: http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=181721
[23:32] <mcurran> Does anyone know how to open port 22 on a wireless network
[23:32] <gluxon> I think it might have been the Expo marker I labeled it with :/
[23:33] <DrJanItor> linxeh: Well there it actually says 650Mhz
[23:33] <thomas_newbie__> so you can't write to NFS drives?
[23:33] <thomas_newbie__> it mounts only as read only
[23:33] <fretegi_part_2> h.264 codec is what i am using, but i can select mkv, avi, ogm as well, then a series of codecs, just hoping to learn a bit about them
[23:33] <linuxguy2009> fretegi_part_2: You encoding CDs or something?
[23:33] <fretegi_part_2> yea dvds
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> mcurran: if you use a  router you will need to read your manual, if not then it is open
[23:33] <fretegi_part_2> or trying to lol
[23:33] <DrJanItor> ActionParsnip: thx I'll have a look
[23:33] <linuxguy2009> fretegi_part_2: Handbrake is what I love to use.
[23:33] <fretegi_part_2> thats what i am using
[23:33] <linuxguy2009> fretegi_part_2: MP4
[23:33] <gOLDfeesh> hey how can I mount my phone's sd card?
[23:33] <labuser> erUSUL: even if I did that, the list of cached applications often changes
[23:34] <fretegi_part_2> ok great, why do u like mp4? just trying to learn a bit
[23:34] <gluxon> gOLDfeesh: Plug it in :/
[23:34] <histo> gOLDfeesh: just insert it in to your sd reader it should mount automatically
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> DrJanItor: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234114
[23:34] <sebsebseb> linuxguy2009: love,  there's a love bot factoid :)
[23:34] <linuxguy2009> fretegi_part_2: Cause its fast and looks good.
[23:34] <fretegi_part_2> ok what codec?
[23:34] <gOLDfeesh> gluxon, doesn't seem to be detected
[23:34] <gOLDfeesh> histo, ^^
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> DrJanItor: http://www.overclock.net/linux-unix/439899-cpu-speed-ubuntu-wrong.html
[23:34] <ctmjr> fretegi_part_2: you might ask in #mplayer
[23:34] <masterfishslayer> looking for post install help for LiveUSB persistent
[23:34] <fretegi_part_2> oh perfect thanks
[23:34] <epinky> fretegi_part_2: better ask on #mplayer channel
[23:35] <linuxguy2009> fretegi_part_2: I use the ffmpeg rather than the AVC/x264 format. Faster.
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> gOLDfeesh: do you see the partition in: sudo fdisk -l
[23:35] <histo> !love | sebsebseb
[23:35] <gluxon> gOLDfeesh: Ah...
[23:35] <gOLDfeesh> ActionParsnip, yes
[23:35] <fretegi_part_2> ok gotcha, how is quality?
[23:35] <gluxon> You have the old, classic SD card error :)
[23:35] <DrJanItor> ActionParsnip: Unfortunately there is no cpufreq directory in the /proc/.../cpu0 dir
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> gOLDfeesh: then mount it manually if it hasnt
[23:35] <kavurt> can i cut videos using ffmpeg and cli?
[23:35] <gluxon> ..
[23:35] <gluxon> That's not good ;
[23:35] <gluxon> :(
[23:35] <gOLDfeesh> ActionParsnip, not sure how lol.
[23:35] <FloodBot1> gluxon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:35] <sebsebseb> histo: :)  yeah  I think linuxguy2009  has seen it before,  hence why I didn't pm to him
[23:35] <histo> kavurt: what do you mean but cut?
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> !mount | gOLDfeesh
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> gOLDfeesh: why the "lol"?
[23:36] <linuxguy2009> sebsebseb: Seen what?
[23:36] <fretegi_part_2> reason i am asking is i have a commercial recorder that records in ffmpeg, however handbrake looks far better with h264, not sure why, trying to learn
[23:36] <gOLDfeesh> ActionParsnip, why not
[23:36] <sebsebseb> !love > linuxguy2009
[23:36] <kavurt> histo: I want to remove some parts of a video
[23:36] <gluxon> gOldfeesh: It's not ubuntu, it's your computer.
[23:36] <gluxon> It doesn't support your SD card.
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> gOLDfeesh: its fairly pointless, justr wondering if it was as needless as I am imagining? its not especially funny....
[23:36] <gluxon> So ubuntu can't detect it. :(
[23:37] <gOLDfeesh> gluxon, it's not my computer because it used to mount in Windows
[23:37] <gluxon> oh really? :(
[23:37] <gluxon> I have so many problems with SD cards :P
[23:38] <gOLDfeesh> how can i reset all my usb devices
[23:38] <DrJanItor> linxeh: so what does the discrepancy between /proc/cpuinfo and the dmidecode output mean?
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> gOLDfeesh: if the fdisk output shows the partition you can mount it manually and you can access it as normal
[23:38] <linuxguy2009> fretegi_part_2: x264/AVC takes longer to encode but if you use the same bitrate compared to ffmpeg MP4 you get better quality. Or you can acheieve the same quality at a lower bitrate. Its a tradeoff.
[23:38] <bae> guys, I just upgrade to 9.1 and my drives wont auto-mount via fstab.  Anyone experience this or know how to correct?
[23:38] <gOLDfeesh> ActionParsnip, how can i reset all my usb devices. like..so udev re-reads all the usbs.
[23:39] <sebsebseb> bae: yes that's an issue or simpally it's a feature
[23:39] <seige36> why is it so hard to create an adhoc network in kubuntu?!
[23:39] <sebsebseb> bae: oh I am thinking when you try and access a partition and it want's your password
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> gOLDfeesh: sudo rmmod usb_storage; sleep 5; sudo modprobe usb_storage
[23:39] <Ryan9104> Can someone with a quickcam or quickcam express send me their xorg.conf?
[23:39] <fretegi_part_2> tahnks for ur help guys
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> Ryan9104: webcams arent defined in xorg.conf
[23:39] <sebsebseb> bae: check out the release notes there might be something useful
[23:40] <linxeh> DrJanItor: good question; its not uncommon for cpuinfo to be wrong though, but I dont know why
[23:40] <sebsebseb> !notes | bae
[23:40] <bae> sebsebseb: ok ya sounds different.  looks like my swap wont mount
[23:40] <linxeh> DrJanItor: lots of p3/p4 servers at work reported incorrectly
[23:40] <sebsebseb> bae: swap won't mount hmm
[23:40] <sebsebseb> bae: I think it's swapon in the terminal or something to turn swap on
[23:40] <Ryan9104> ActionParsnip: Well I believe I can't get my webcam to get registered as a device.
[23:40] <sebsebseb> bae: and your swap should just work
[23:40] <linxeh> DrJanItor: fwiw, my core2 processor reports 1200mhz (its supposedly 2.8ghz)
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> Ryan9104: if you run: lsusb   you will get an 8 hexadecimal character ID code, websearch that
[23:41] <Ryan9104> ActionParsnip: It is under lsusb, but I can't get it to show up in any programs so I think I need to specify the drivers or something.
[23:41] <DrJanItor> linxeh: ok. well that's strange. but also it sure doesnt feel like its running at 650 Mhz
[23:41] <hullo> am i likely to lose data if i add a label to my disc?
[23:41] <Ryan9104> ActionParsnip: I've googled for probably 20 hours total now, had support in here and nobody could help, I've read everything.
[23:41] <rick__> can anyone help on how to get banshee 1.5.2 installed on my system?  i can't figure out how to get it from either synaptic or the tar file.
[23:41] <sebsebseb> hullo: Probably not, but which disk or partiton?
[23:42] <bae> sebsebseb:  i may need to add the bootwait options (reading through the release notes)
[23:42] <hullo> hullo: main disc
[23:42] <ibrahimmufeed> I need help with vpn, please!!
[23:42] <sebsebseb> rick__: Whcih version of Ubuntu?
[23:42] <linxeh> DrJanItor: what if you run something cpu heavy and check it ?
[23:42] <gOLDfeesh> hmm.. for somet reason it didn't reset everything I have like 5 ttyACM*
[23:42] <rick__> karmic
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> Ryan9104: whats the lsusb code?
[23:42] <sebsebseb> rick__:  ok easy open the terminal
[23:42] <hullo> basically the  uuid dissapeared so grub no longer loads it
[23:42] <sebsebseb> rick__: sudo apt-get install banshee
[23:42] <ctmjr> Ryan9104: what is the out out of ls /dev/video*
[23:42] <mcurran> Well I went into my router settings and I enabled all ports, but yet I'm still getting port 22 denied message - I even tried connecting to the gateway and still no dice?
[23:42] <hullo> so i figure i will add a label, configure grub to load by label
[23:42] <DrJanItor> linxeh: also from a quick look at the default kernel config i think the speedstep stuff should be compiled in
[23:42] <Ryan9104> ActionParsnip: 046d:0870
[23:42] <sebsebseb> hullo: oh messing around with Grub can go bad
[23:43] <rick__> sebsebseb will that work as synaptic still shows 1.5.1 available and i have 1.5.1 installed right now
[23:43] <sebsebseb> hullo: Grub or Grub 2?  Karmic or?
[23:43] <ibrahimmufeed> DrJanItor, I need help with vpn, please!!
[23:43] <Ryan9104> ctmjr: /dev/video0
[23:43] <hullo> Karmic
[23:43] <DrJanItor> linxeh: any proposals? I tried firefox, which takes several minutes to start, even though theres a reasonable amount of RAM (512 MB)
[23:43] <sebsebseb> rick__: that command will install a package  from the repo, if it's not already installed
[23:43] <hullo> sebsebseb: its pretty simple (in theory heh) i dont know why this disc lost its uuid
[23:43] <sebsebseb> rick__: that will install banshee, if you don't already have installed
[23:44] <sebsebseb> hullo: clean install of Karmic or an upgrade?
[23:44] <hullo> upgrade
[23:44] <sebsebseb> hullo: ok so you got the old Grub?
[23:44] <masterfishslayer> anyone else having or had an all black screen after booting into liveusb persistent 9.10?
[23:44] <ibrahimmufeed> vpn problem
[23:44] <hullo> yeah sorry
[23:44] <cmwslw> the dell page (http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs) lists the Mini 10v as having Ubuntu 8.10
[23:44] <coachz> how to eject my cd ?  Virtual Box did the install and now it needs unmounting apparently
[23:44] <ctmjr> Ryan9104: if you do not have a tv card then that is your webcam if you have vlc then you can open it to test
[23:44] <cmwslw> us this still true?
[23:44] <sebsebseb> !grub |  hullo
[23:44] <DrJanItor> ibrahimmufeed: not sure if a can help, but whats the problem?
[23:44] <cmwslw> *is
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> Ryan9104: tried: sudo modprobe quickcam_messenger
[23:45] <sebsebseb> coachz: CD for what? and  look at the options you get for the running vm
[23:45] <Ryan9104> ctmjr: the only thing that comes up in Cheese for example is a device named Camera
[23:45] <kcj1993> how do i move things around on the panel in kde
[23:45] <ibrahimmufeed> I followed all the steps, and I am connected on Ubuntu 9.10 but I can not access any resource and I can not PING even
[23:45] <coachz> my vm is shutdown
[23:45] <sebsebseb> kcj1993: try #kubuntu
[23:45] <sebsebseb> coachz: do it in the vm settings then
[23:45] <darthanubis> kcj1993, try #kubuntu
[23:46] <sebsebseb> darthanubis: we both put same thing
[23:46] <Ryan9104> ActionParsnip: where you are getting that, make sure it is a recent date because the drivers are built into the kernel now so all support threads are outdated.
[23:46] <Ryan9104> ActionParsnip: will try though
[23:46] <darthanubis> sebsebseb, ') great minds and all
[23:46] <vistro> There is a serious problem with dd
[23:46] <sebsebseb> darthanubis: yeah I was thinking that as well, great minds think a like
[23:46] <coachz> sebsebseb,   where? it doesn't show a cd in the VBoxGT
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> Ryan9104: dont know and dont care, try it, if it doesn't work, emove the module. Its free to try
[23:46] <sebsebseb> coachz: look around the settings, you can unmount your CD
[23:47] <vistro> It is 100% incapable of writing to a floppy disk. It says it's transferring the data, but the disk is unchanged. The light never comes on.
[23:47] <ibrahimmufeed> DrJanItor : I followed all the steps, and I am connected on Ubuntu 9.10 but I can not access any resource and I can not PING even
[23:47] <kcj1993> not many replys on #kubuntu
[23:47] <coachz> nope
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Ryan9104: you can also try: sudo modprobe v4l1-compat
[23:47] <sebsebseb> coachz: click on the vm, go into the settings for it
[23:47] <coachz> i'm there
[23:47] <sebsebseb> coachz: click on the vm as in the list
[23:47] <coachz> i did
[23:47] <DrJanItor> ibrahimmufeed: is the vpn connection established?
[23:48] <coachz> ahhh
[23:48] <ibrahimmufeed> yes
[23:48] <coachz> change media
[23:48] <Ryan9104> ActionParsnip: neither have any output.
[23:48] <sebsebseb> coachz: CD/DVD-ROM
[23:48] <sebsebseb> coachz: press that
[23:48] <linuxguy2009> I saw above someone mention a Dell Mini. Does someone here need help with one? I have one myself if they do.
[23:48] <sebsebseb> coachz: and unmount it
[23:48] <ibrahimmufeed> DrJanItor yes
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> Ryan9104: They won't. No output means no problem, You are supposed to try cheese in between
[23:48] <gOLDfeesh> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/d53abd0a3
[23:48] <Ryan9104> ActionParsnip: I did.
[23:49] <coachz> i have a choice of /dev/sr0 or none,  i picked none and it's still mounted
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> Ryan9104: make sure you rmmod one of the modules, having 2 modules for the same thing will cause issues
[23:49] <sebsebseb> coachz: ok well try #vbox for help
[23:49] <coachz> i'll just reboot the stupid computer
[23:49] <coachz> it's faster
[23:49] <sebsebseb> coachz: or that
[23:49] <vistro> Is there a good way to take sbm.bin and write it to a floppy?
[23:49] <sebsebseb> coachz: ,but maybe you put on auto mount?
[23:49] <vistro> And have linux actually do it... outside of it's imaginary world?
[23:49] <DrJanItor> ibrahimmufeed: did you ping an IP address or host name? maybe it's a DNS resolution issue.
[23:50] <billiard_junkee> anders, did you work for HFW once upon a time?
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> Ryan9104: ok cool
[23:50] <masterfishslayer> looking for live usb persistent help (post installation) computer boots - but screen totally black.
[23:50] <ibrahimmufeed> DrJanItor: I tried to ping but nothing received at all
[23:50] <sebsebseb> !usb |  masterfishslayer
[23:50] <sebsebseb> masterfishslayer: Which version of Ubuntu?  and which graphics card?
[23:51] <gOLDfeesh> ActionParsnip, did you get my pb?
[23:51] <sebsebseb> masterfishslayer: I haven't done one myself, so this is only basic trouble shooting
[23:51] <masterfishslayer> The thing is... it was working fine after several reboots (version 9.10)
[23:51] <coachz> tada !
[23:51] <billiard_junkee> yay! for coachz
[23:52] <coachz> thanks for the help,  driving me to drink
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> Ryan9104: theres this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3856516#post3856516/but its said to be unstable
[23:52] <sebsebseb> masterfishslayer: They run the same as from the hard disk? except it's from a usb instead?
[23:52] <masterfishslayer> wife just turned off laptop - eversince cant see desktop.
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> gOLDfeesh: yeah, doesnt mean much to me
[23:52] <jolaren> I want to disable a user to bee able to right click the desktop, is that posible?
[23:52] <DrJanItor> ibrahimmufeed: Yeah ok. well it is hard for me to tell because what you can or cant ping depends very much on your network setup
[23:52] <jrib> jolaren: why?
[23:52] <jolaren> jrib; kiosk setup
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> Ryan9104: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/88231
[23:53] <ibrahimmufeed> DrJanItor thank you so much :)
[23:53] <jolaren> jrib;  I'm running Pessulus, works fine but I want to disable the right click function
[23:53] <billiard_junkee> ibrahimmufeed, maybe try a netstat?
[23:53] <jrib> jolaren: read the admin guide at library.gnome.org though I'm not sure that is covered.  nautilus is responsible for the desktop
[23:53] <billiard_junkee> or nslookup
[23:53] <DrJanItor> ibrahimmufeed: sorry
[23:53] <masterfishslayer> sebsebseb: you have any ideas?
[23:53] <ibrahimmufeed> billiard_junkee what is netstat
[23:53] <sebsebseb> masterfishslayer: not really, but which graphics card you got?
[23:54] <billiard_junkee> !netstat
[23:54] <masterfishslayer> don't know?
[23:54] <masterfishslayer> how do i look
[23:54] <jolaren> jrib; I'll try to google some more
[23:54] <ScislaC> I am trying to guide a friend through install atm, bear with me. He installed Ubuntu (9.10) on a Slave drive and has a broken windows install on the Master drive. Apparently Ubuntu didn't install grub to the MBR of Master drive. Is there a guide anywhere for how to install grub2 from the live CD in this type of situation (ubuntu on slave)?
[23:54] <jrib> jolaren: the admin guide at library.gnome.org is worth a look
[23:54] <jrib> jolaren: I think they have a section called "locking down"
[23:54] <sebsebseb> masterfishslayer: nevermind stick around,  ask your question again a bit later, and hopefuly someone else can help
[23:54] <Roasted> I got a question about ACLs here - How do they integrate with the UGO permissions within Linux? Who takes priority?
[23:54] <billiard_junkee> ibrahimmufeed, it's a utility that will show you what connections are listenening connected and the ports that they are connected through, among many other things
[23:54] <mrXX> Surprisingly, i see AKONADI intalled in my ubuntu which i dont remember doing, anyone knows why?
[23:55] <masterfishslayer> sebsebseb: thanks anyways
[23:55] <erUSUL> mrXX: you use kde. kde uses akonadi ?
[23:55] <billiard_junkee> ibrahimmufeed, 'man netstat'  I would say tat 'netsat -ar' should show what you want to see
[23:55] <mrXX> seUSUL what is kde? what program is it
[23:56] <sebsebseb> !kde | mrXX
[23:56] <Roasted> Man - has anybody ever set up ACLs on Linux??
[23:56] <mrXX> !kde4
[23:56] <erUSUL> !info eiciel | Roasted
[23:56] <sebsebseb> mrXX: I think it's 4.3 now
[23:57] <Roasted> erUSUL - already using eiciel. Hoping I could find somebody who has more experience with it to help me.
[23:57] <ibrahimmufeed> billiard_junkee, I issued netstat -nr and I got results, one of them for my destination [work domain] but how can that help me to resolve the problem. I do not know!
[23:57] <erUSUL> Roasted: that's not me sorry
[23:57] <billiard_junkee> ibrahimmufeed, forgive me, but in the mix of everything, I forget what  you were trying to do.  I just remember that you could not ping....that is why I mentioned netstat
[23:59] <ibrahimmufeed> billiard_junkee, I established a VPN connection to my work network, and I am connected. However I can not access any resource or even ping the work domain!
[23:59] <linuxguy2009> Anyone know how to share the desktop with Vinagre over the internet like when I need to help my uncle out. Do I just need to enter his IP address as the host?
[23:59] <jrib> Roasted: iirc normal unix permissions become part of the ACL ones (default I think) but it's been a while since I played with ACLs.  Did you check « man setfacl » ?
[23:59] <sebsebseb> !vnc > linuxguy2009


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[08:11] <LaserJock> anybody around?
[08:15] <Madpilot> possibly
[08:16] <LaserJock> I need somebody to check/approve my ubucon story


[12:51] <mzanetti> popey: o/
[12:51] <mzanetti> popey: may I ask you to make xbmremote's update pass again? I got stuck again and the app name rule
[12:58] <popey> ya
[12:59] <popey> mzanetti: have you submitted it?
[12:59] <mzanetti> popey: yea. last night
[12:59] <popey> oh, i see it
[12:59] <popey> it disappeared from my view because daniel rejected it
[12:59] <popey> wish we could have a single list of all apps
[13:00] <popey> whatever their status
[13:00] <mzanetti> :)
[13:00] <mzanetti> popey: how does this check work? is it just a script that greps for applicationName in qml files?
[13:01] <mzanetti> popey: maybe we could add something to bypass it with a special comment.
[13:01] <popey> mzanetti: it's in lp:click-reviewers-tools
[13:01] <popey> patches welcome ㋛
[13:03] <mzanetti> popey: also, feel free to review/test my branches for the reminders app: https://code.launchpad.net/~reminders-app-dev/reminders-app/trunk/+activereviews
[13:04] <popey> ok, will do a bit later.. got to take my son swimming in a bit
[13:12] <popey> heh, busy 10 mins there, approve one app, go back and another appears, approve that, and another appears ☻
[13:22] <mzanetti> :D
[13:22] <mzanetti> popey: thanks for approving :)
[13:23] <popey> np
[14:14] <aquarius> mhall119, ping when you're around. No urgency :)
[15:37] <popey> mzanetti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6504693/  that looks like it's not building on device because it's missing something?
[15:38] <popey> qmake: could not find a Qt installation of ''
[17:27] <mhall119> aquarius: I'll be around on and off today
[17:28] <aquarius> mhall119, was just going to answr any more questions you had about my communication channels thing :)
[17:29] <mhall119> alright, so what do you imagine the file's content to look like
[17:29] <mhall119> ?
[17:29] <mhall119> and will it be a full history going back indefinitely, or will you drop messages out of the file once the recipient has read them?
[17:29] <aquarius> history forever
[17:29] <aquarius> but there are many files
[17:30] <mhall119> man files per contact?
[17:30] <aquarius> one file which is mine, about me, listing my contacts.
[17:30] <aquarius> one "master file" per contact, listing my "channels" with that contact
[17:30] <aquarius> and then one file per channel per contact
[17:30] <aquarius> note: it is not really designed for IM, although it can be used that way
[17:30] <mhall119> channel?
[17:30] <aquarius> it's really designed  to, for example, play chess, etc
[17:31] <aquarius> you and I can have many "conversations" ongoing at once
[17:31] <aquarius> I'd expect those "conversations" to actually be chess moves, etc
[17:32] <aquarius> or Draw Something moves
[17:32] <mhall119> I see
[17:32] <mhall119> so then latency and polling aren't a real big problem
[17:33] <aquarius> an app would just do somehing like: channel = new U1Channel(with="http://ubuntnuone.com/mhall119", channel_name="chess"); channel.send("pawn to queen 4")
[17:33] <aquarius> it has no idea that this is all being done with XHR requests to the Ubuntu One files API in the cloud.
[17:33] <aquarius> that's why I'm not too worried about latency and polling :)
[17:33] <aquarius> hitting a few URLs is not that big a deal
[17:33] <aquarius> especially in a world with conditional GET in it.
[17:35] <aquarius> I have a rough idea what the files will look like, oo
[17:35] <aquarius> but I haven't specced out the detail yet
[17:53] <xeranas> hi, is it possible to switch from "Core layout" to "Full screen layout" based on ConditionalLayout "when" condition?
[19:34] <xeranas> Basically I just want to learn to change content using ConditionalLayout, not just width, height params
[22:24] <ahayzen> mhall119, ping
[22:26] <mhall119> ahayzen: pong
[22:27] <ahayzen> mhall119, which blueprint do we put the work items on to use http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-14.04/music-app-dev.html ?
[22:28] <ahayzen> mhall119, or do we have to link the blueprint from the UDS session?
[22:29] <ahayzen> mhall119, or is it because we only have them in the description here? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/music-app/+spec/music-2.0-development
[22:32] <mhall119> ahayzen: it'll need to be in the Work Items, and the BP needs to be targeted to the 14.04 series, popey can do all of that for you guys
[22:32] <mhall119> I can too, technically, but I'm not sure which BP's he's using to track work items this cycle
[22:32] <ahayzen> mhall119, i don't mind updating the work items as the ones from the old blueprint need moving over
[22:32] <mhall119> check with popey first
[22:33] <ahayzen> mhall119, ok cool i'll ask him tomoz
[22:33] <ahayzen> mhall119, thanks for ur help :)


[19:06] <nixoeen> Hey, I would like to change the URL of our channel (#ubuntu-ir), but I guess I do not have enough permissions to do so. Is there anyone who can help me with it? :)
[19:06] <Fuchs> hm, didn't you already ask that recently? No reply?   IRCC: ping
[19:07] <nixoeen> Fuchs, I did, but I didn't receive any reply :)
[19:08] <Fuchs> all a bit idle, it seems. Ah well
[19:58] <Unit193> I did respond actually, but he seems to quit often so perhaps that clears scrollback?
[19:59] <Fuchs> great. Maybe leave a memo? Or I could ask him what to change the URL to if I catch him, so you can do that :)
[19:59] <Unit193> < Unit193> nixoeen: Howdy.  I presume you mean the actual url as it is set in ChanServ?  That looks correct to me and the site is reachable.


[06:50]  * mgedmin misses gnome-terminal recognizing LP: #nnn as links :(
[06:52] <jbicha> mgedmin: you're on xenial with the staging ppa?
[06:52] <mgedmin> yes
[06:55] <jbicha> mgedmin: ok that should be fixed in an hour or two (it was fixed a few weeks ago in yakkety)
[06:55] <mgedmin> woohoo!


[00:08] <GridCube> charlie-tca, i think i have 6 of the top 10 now :)
[00:09] <charlie-tca> gaining fast then! Glad to hear there is progress
[00:11] <micahg> I finally got normal notifications back, somehow the type of notification got set to something crazy
[00:12]  * micahg is guessing he's going to have to see libindicate-gtk2 now
[00:13] <micahg> *seed
[00:16] <GridCube> i particulary like number six: Q: Can I edit the Start Menu? A: nope.
[00:16] <charlie-tca> Let's give ochosi time to get back, and mr_pouit.
[00:16] <micahg> huh? I thought we shipped something to do that
[00:17] <knome> GridCube, "A: You can use a menu editor of your choice to do that, for example Alacarte."
[00:17] <GridCube> what is alacarte?
[00:17] <GridCube> and how you install it?
[00:18] <charlie-tca> GridCube: your A: is wrong
[00:18] <knome> alacarte is a menu editing application
[00:18] <knome> sudo apt-get install alacarte
[00:18] <charlie-tca> For Xfce 4.8, 'sudo apt-get install alacarte --no-install-recommends' in a terminal will let you use an editor to change the menus.
[00:18] <micahg> yes, but it'll pull in the gnome stack
[00:18] <micahg> right
[00:19] <charlie-tca> without the --no-install-recommends, it will pull in too much
[00:19] <knome> right, i've disabled installing the recommended packages altogether
[00:19] <knome> ;)
[00:19] <charlie-tca> GridCube: that is valid for both 11.04 and 11.10
[00:19] <GridCube> and for 10.04 as i just tested it
[00:20] <GridCube> well, at least the sudo apt-get part, but it wants me to download 160MB thats a bit too much
[00:20] <GridCube> and pretty ridicule for just editing a menu
[00:21] <knome> alacarte won't edit the xubuntu menu prior to 11.04
[00:21] <GridCube> oh then its useless
[00:21] <charlie-tca> you still running 10.04?
[00:22] <GridCube> also the no-install-recommends avoided the 160b
[00:22] <GridCube> mb
[00:22] <GridCube> yes
[00:22] <GridCube> i use 10.04
[00:22] <charlie-tca> GridCube: For Xfce 4.8, 'sudo apt-get install alacarte --no-install-recommends' in a terminal will let you use an editor to change the menus.
[00:22] <charlie-tca> GridCube: that would be 11.04 and higher
[00:22] <GridCube> copy pasted it
[13:15] <charlie-tca> micahg: bug 824299 closed as fixed again
[13:22] <charlie-tca> We have desktop images, but my zsync started at 58% complete today. Going to be a while to get them here.
[13:43] <charlie-tca> micahg_: Is there a way for us to get this fix for ristretto pulled and put into to both 11.04 and 11.10?
[13:43] <charlie-tca> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7882
[13:44] <charlie-tca> Probably have to wait for it to hit Debian?
[13:44] <charlie-tca> Seems like a good thing to get, though
[13:50] <astraljava> I was at 59.4%
[13:51] <charlie-tca> oh, 386?
[13:51] <charlie-tca> I need to know if lightdm changed at all for us.
[13:52] <charlie-tca> and whether or not we can actually login today
[13:52] <charlie-tca> and the good news is... I need to update and reinstall vbox, again
[13:56] <charlie-tca> Release team meeting in about 1 hour, won't have results since I don't have the full images yet
[14:15] <charlie-tca> Okay, I asked this on the bug report, but will ask again. Is it possible to pin the gnome-system-tools package from 11.04 to 11.10 so users-admin does not require mixed gtk2 and gtk3?
[14:15] <charlie-tca> bug 789333
[14:42] <astraljava> charlie-tca: Yeah, i386, cause I intend to test on real hw, and it's 32-bit only.
[14:42] <charlie-tca> I have the advantage then. I have both machines
[14:43] <charlie-tca> I just have this painfully slow internet
[14:43] <astraljava> I do have a laptop and a desktop for amd64 usage, but those are for different purposes. But I should just add a few more disks for the desktop, so I could install more.
[14:44] <astraljava> Did you mean g-system-tools as for the image or just locally, for yourself?
[14:44] <micahg_> charlie-tca: oneiric, sure, natty, if there's a test case
[14:47] <charlie-tca> I mean gnome-system-tools as in System -> Users and Groups
[14:47] <charlie-tca> You can not add a user
[14:47] <charlie-tca> which, if we are really going to provide the interface for users, needs to work
[14:47] <charlie-tca> micahg: I will have to find the natty bug
[14:48] <micahg> charlie-tca: users-admin needs to be gtk3
[14:48] <charlie-tca> why?
[14:48] <micahg> to work with the rest of gnome
[14:48] <charlie-tca> According to the bug report, it is up to those planning to use it to make it work
[14:49] <astraljava> So what components bring GNOME3 libs in at this moment?
[14:49] <charlie-tca> micahg: so, are we going to have to add tons of gnome3 to get that working for us now?
[14:49] <micahg> charlie-tca: oops, you're right
[14:49] <micahg> charlie-tca: the problem is the libs it needs are now GNOME3 libs
[14:50] <charlie-tca> If we have to fix it, can't we just use the natty package?
[14:50] <micahg> it's still a gnome2 app
[14:50] <charlie-tca> it worked
[14:50] <micahg> that's what's in oneiric :)
[14:50] <charlie-tca> oh
[14:50] <charlie-tca> I knew my thinking was faulty again
[14:50]  * astraljava is just soooo confused now
[14:51] <charlie-tca> astraljava: next install, try adding a new user or group
[14:51]  * micahg will have to chat with gilir about this
[14:51] <charlie-tca> Okay, I would like it working for beta1
[14:51] <charlie-tca> Is that possible?
[14:52] <charlie-tca> or at least we can project that?
[14:52] <charlie-tca> might be beta2, but milestones are movable
[15:09] <micahg> charlie-tca: well, let
[15:09] <micahg> s  see what deps are needed, we could always look for a different tool as well
[15:10] <charlie-tca> I agree
[15:26] <micahg> but Lubuntu is in the same boat which is a plus for us :)
[15:27] <charlie-tca>  and mythbuntu too
[15:41] <micahg> charlie-tca: good news is unity-greeter won't be pulled in anymore :)
[15:41] <astraljava> Yay!
[15:42] <charlie-tca> yay!
[15:43] <micahg> so, we have dailies back and i386 is almost oversized...
[15:44] <charlie-tca> almost is okay
[15:45] <charlie-tca> we can look at what is not needed again, since they always have ways of adding to us
[15:46] <micahg> well, I'm guessing it was another incomplete library transition or 2
[15:46] <charlie-tca> something else unity decided we need?
[15:47]  * astraljava can't seem to get the desktop i386 installing in virtualbox
[15:47] <charlie-tca> oh-oh
[15:47] <micahg> ah, we inherited colord support :)
[15:47] <charlie-tca> anything in particular yet?
[15:48] <charlie-tca> see, micahg. I knew they 'helped' us again
[15:48] <micahg> well, that's actually a good thing in this case, but it does take space :)
[15:49] <charlie-tca> hm, how much of kde did we get?
[15:50] <charlie-tca> I will look at this stuff after the meeting
[15:50] <charlie-tca> astraljava: how far into the install?
[15:50] <astraljava> Wait, something's not right. The desktop image doesn't have the "Try Xubuntu without <whatever>". What gives?
[15:50] <charlie-tca> ubiquity got changed again
[15:51] <charlie-tca> file a bug for it
[15:51] <astraljava> Well it seems to have been a glitch with virtualbox, cause resetting it makes it progress, actually. *phew*
[15:52] <astraljava> IPv6 autoconfiguration?! REALLY?!
[15:52] <micahg> charlie-tca: kde? shouldn't be any, colord is a system service that makes it easy to manage, install and generate
[15:52] <micahg>  colour profiles to accurately colour manage input and output devices.
[15:52] <charlie-tca> I know that. But that doesn't mean it doesn't happen
[15:53] <micahg> heh, well upgrades are broke for me ATM due to a mono issue which I probably won't be able to debug until sunday
[15:53] <charlie-tca> heh, well, at least you know how to do it. ;)
[15:54] <astraljava> micahg: Bug #?
[15:54] <micahg> astraljava: for what?
[15:54] <astraljava> The mono issue?
[15:54] <micahg> oh, haven't filed one yet due to apport thinking it's reported this before :)
[15:54] <astraljava> Oh okay.
[15:54] <astraljava> :)
[15:55] <micahg> retracers are broke anyways due to the apt transition
[15:55] <astraljava> Damn.
[15:56] <charlie-tca> oh, my
[16:09] <micahg> astraljava: bug 824858
[16:10] <GridCube> thats a nice bug name
[16:10] <micahg> doesn't affect xubuntu since we don't ship banshee
[16:12] <micahg> charlie-tca: dh_python2 and libssl1.0.0 transitions needed for xubuntu still, will request FFes for dh_python2 stuff
[16:14] <charlie-tca>  Okay
[16:15] <micahg> charlie-tca: sorry, should've told you that earlier :)
[16:15] <charlie-tca> No problem. I discussed it last week with skaet and explained that we won't know much in advance what we need.
[16:37] <astraljava> micahg: Thanks!
[16:37] <charlie-tca> Okay, burning images to start testing
[16:38] <astraljava> whee! /me just got the IPTV box and the modem for the broadband. Come Monday evening, I'll be (sort of) happy again.
[16:42] <astraljava> Really? Supposed to look like this? http://astraljava.kapsi.fi/Xubuntu-desktop-lightdm-greeter_20110812.png
[16:45] <knome> astraljava, why monday evening?
[16:45] <knome> astraljava, that's the default unity-theme, without wallpaper
[16:46] <astraljava> knome: Cause that's when they'll install the service.
[16:46] <astraljava> knome: Gah!!!
[16:46] <knome> aha
[16:51] <madnick> I feel like a really naggy person :( but knome have you thought about the themes? :) I'm just kinda eager to get going with these stuff, since it will take quite some time to write it :P
[16:51] <charlie-tca> newest thing in login themes!
[16:51] <charlie-tca> Think it is all shook out now, madnick.
[16:53] <madnick> okay
[16:53] <madnick> So Ill fetch todays image :)
[16:54] <charlie-tca> not sure yet, but will know later today/this weekend.
[16:55] <charlie-tca> I will be testing all images before monday, to see what happens
[16:59] <charlie-tca> sync is almost finished, only another hour or so
[17:04] <astraljava> Okay, so now it's the second Xubuntu session that needs to be selected to get into our shit.
[17:04] <charlie-tca> well, depends on which session really works. it changes
[17:04] <astraljava> Gotta figure out during the weekend why we have 2 at the first place.
[17:04] <astraljava> Oh really?
[17:04] <astraljava> Damn.
[17:05] <charlie-tca> We have two because lightdm is not really fixed for us
[17:05] <astraljava> So we know why, exactly?
[17:06] <charlie-tca> because we use a symlink like it was suggested on bug 799754 , comment #13
[17:06] <charlie-tca> and that causes two sessions to appear
[17:07] <charlie-tca> and mr_pouit has probably gone close to bald now trying to fix that and get some cooperation from Ubuntu for it.
[17:08] <charlie-tca> because the best response we get is "it should work"
[17:09] <charlie-tca> so, I guess, any help you can give would be appreciated!
[17:09] <charlie-tca> We seem to be the ones pushing to get it right, so that all derivatives can use lightdm
[17:11] <charlie-tca> astraljava: if it helps any, most of the other flavours are cheering for us :)
[17:14] <astraljava> Oh alright. :) I'll have a look, I guess, but then I don't expect to get anywhere without talking to mr_pouit first.
[17:16] <astraljava> Okay, well things seemed to work in vbox, outside the hidden bar at the bottom of the screen, so I'll do proper testing on the actual hw tomorrow/Sunday.
[17:17] <charlie-tca> Great! If you do decide to investigate lightdm, maybe that bug provides a starting point?
[17:18] <charlie-tca> Robert Ancell might be back next week, I don't know for sure. he gets a week on holiday after the summit
[17:18] <astraljava> Sure, but I just think it's pointless to redo the same false fixes that mr_pouit has already done. :)
[17:19] <charlie-tca> I agree. Hoping he is back too next week
[17:34] <astraljava> Lionel is mr_pouit ?! I never knew! :D
[17:43] <charlie-tca> yes, he is :)
[18:04] <charlie-tca> madnick: I think just adding our own background to the lightdm screen could work
[18:05] <charlie-tca> although I question the gear to the right of the user name
[18:06] <charlie-tca> It's not very intuitive as to who is logging in
[18:07] <charlie-tca> apparently, I didn't pick the right session, either
[18:07] <astraljava> But now it shouldn't matter anymore, I was able to just log out and choose the correct one without penalties.
[18:07] <charlie-tca> astraljava: where did you pick a session from?
[18:08] <charlie-tca> this login screen doesn't have sessions
[18:08] <astraljava> I think it was the gear that you mentioned, but I might forget already.
[18:08] <charlie-tca> Yup, that really is not good for the user
[18:09] <charlie-tca> madnick: I really prefer we use Sessions:
[18:09] <charlie-tca> to indicate such
[18:09] <charlie-tca> that icon is anything but usable without being told to try clicking it
[18:10] <madnick> charlie-tca: using the wallpaper on top of the lightdm greeter?
[18:10] <madnick> unity*
[18:13] <charlie-tca> yes, with some changes, I guess, since that gear is not really usable to say "choose session here"
[18:13] <charlie-tca> That really sucks
[18:14] <charlie-tca> We still do not have a decent way to tell the user "choose the right session at login"
[18:14] <charlie-tca> it still takes 12 steps to reset the session if the wrong session is logged into
[18:15] <madnick> okay
[18:17] <madnick> so adding a session list
[18:17] <madnick> In the panel? Or in the main UI?
[18:17] <charlie-tca> in the lightdm screen
[18:17] <astraljava> charlie-tca: Really? I just restarted lightdm, and when the greeter came up again, I chose the correct one. Oh! Is that why I didn't see the hidden bar when brought the mouse cursor at the bottom?
[18:18] <charlie-tca> replace the stupid gear to the right of the user with a "Choose Session: "
[18:18] <madnick> could i see a screenshot?
[18:18]  * madnick is downloading the image still
[18:19] <charlie-tca> madnick: http://astraljava.kapsi.fi/Xubuntu-desktop-lightdm-greeter_20110812.png
[18:19] <charlie-tca> see where to choose the session?
[18:19] <astraljava> madnick: Look above, I linked to one.
[18:19] <astraljava> Ahh... there you have it. :)
[18:20] <madnick> charlie-tca: nope :P I acctually do not
[18:20] <charlie-tca> astraljava: yes, if you did not follow the 12 step reset, you didn't get the right session
[18:20] <charlie-tca> madnick: it's that stupid looking gear thing
[18:20] <madnick> oh!
[18:21] <charlie-tca> Sorry, don't quite know what to call that
[18:21] <charlie-tca> but I find it really stupid, myself
[18:21] <madnick> So, you want to add a userlist there?
[18:21] <charlie-tca> I want it to say "Choose session: ", please
[18:21] <madnick> okay :)
[18:21] <charlie-tca> That is the user list
[18:22] <charlie-tca> Other, Janne, guest is the user list
[18:22] <madnick> sorry, i slipped my mind :)
[18:22] <madnick> Okay, but yeah, I can do that
[18:22] <charlie-tca> Of course, if you have more than three or four users, it ain't really gonna fit, either
[18:22] <madnick> hm
[18:23] <madnick> How about adding it to that panel on the top right?
[18:23] <madnick> like a dropdown list?
[18:23] <charlie-tca> I think they have to add the two missing icons there, too
[18:23] <charlie-tca> The sessions?
[18:23] <madnick> yes
[18:24] <charlie-tca> That would be fine, It just has to state "sessions: " specifically. That icon does not work.
[18:24] <madnick> Okay
[18:24] <charlie-tca> Some things are not easily expressed in a tiny icon.
[18:24] <madnick> :)
[18:24] <madnick> Ill set it up, and paste a screenshow of it looks, when the install is done
[18:25] <madnick> it will take like 2 hours from now :\
[18:25] <charlie-tca> okay
[18:25] <charlie-tca> well, you did ask for input...
[18:26] <charlie-tca> it just seems wrong now. I can adjust volume and use gmusicbrowser from the login screen, but I can not choose to restart or shutdown or sessions or accessibility?
[18:28] <charlie-tca> astraljava: I got Try Xubuntu... on hardware
[18:29] <astraljava> charlie-tca: Oh okay, maybe not possible in vbox/other virt?
[18:29] <charlie-tca> possibility that it is broken again, yes
[18:30] <charlie-tca> I don't know, since my VBox is broken again and I have to remove and reinstall to try and fix it
[18:31] <madnick> cctually
[18:31] <madnick> acctually* they are stock icons
[18:31] <madnick> that are missing from us :)
[18:31] <charlie-tca> what are?
[18:31] <charlie-tca> oh
[18:31] <charlie-tca> um, live session, second xubuntu session is wrong one
[18:32] <charlie-tca> I see, so we have to replace those with icons that are really there?
[18:33] <Unit193> I have 3 steps for fixing wrong session... >_>
[18:33] <charlie-tca> I wish mr_pouit would get back. We need to decide if fixing this thing is really gonna work for us
[18:33] <charlie-tca> Unit193: What are they?
[18:34] <Unit193> 1. rm (~/).config 2. rm (~/).cache 3. Logout and back in
[18:34] <Unit193> (Testing only, not actual system)
[18:34] <charlie-tca> You forgot the "Open a terminal"
[18:35] <charlie-tca> or is it in a tty?
[18:35] <charlie-tca> oh, and also "find the quit icon in the panel. It is not on the right end in this session" thing
[18:35] <Unit193> Alright, but you don't already have a few open?
[18:35] <charlie-tca> no
[18:36] <micahg> Unit193: be careful with instructions like that, it can wipe out stuff  on an install
[18:36] <astraljava> Well, that's still 4 steps actually: 1. Ctrl + Alt + F[1-6], 2. rm .config, 3. rm .cache, 4. sudo service lightdm restart
[18:36] <charlie-tca> I log in, I have to click on which panel setup to use, I close xfce tips, then I am staring at what is not the right screen
[18:36] <Unit193> micahg: Yeah, I added that after but that's only telling charlie how I do it (Not going to tell others to use it)
[18:36] <astraljava> micahg: True, but aren't we talking about .iso testing here? :)
[18:37] <charlie-tca> steps just increased...
[18:37] <Unit193> I actually use rm .cache && rm .config
[18:37] <charlie-tca> 1. Ctrl+alt+F1, 2. login
[18:37] <astraljava> Unit193: rm -rf maybe?
[18:37] <micahg> astraljava: it depends, I just wanted that in there for people reading IRC logs
[18:37] <Unit193> astraljava: Yeah. No sleep yesterday and not much today is really catching up :/
[18:38] <astraljava> micahg: Good call. I always forget the logging.
[18:38] <charlie-tca> 3. rm -r .cache 4. rm -r .cache 5. sudo service lightdm restart 6. Ctrl+Alt+F1 7. logout 8. Alt+F7
[18:38]  * Unit193 Hates the logs ever so much@!!
[18:38] <astraljava> Which is why I shoudl muthaf***ing clean my act up. *oops*
[18:38] <charlie-tca> We are talking about anyone that installs oneiric and decides to keep it too
[18:39] <astraljava> charlie-tca: You shouldn't have to log out after restarting lightdm.
[18:39] <astraljava> What gives?
[18:39] <charlie-tca> You gonna leave the tty logged into then?
[18:39] <astraljava> charlie-tca: Does it matter?
[18:39] <charlie-tca> It doesn't log you out automatically until you restart the computer, at which time it might hang because you are logged into a tty
[18:40] <astraljava> Besides, you're in tty1 already, you don't have to Ctrl+Alt+F1 again.
[18:40] <charlie-tca> no, restarting lightdm sends you to F7 to login
[18:40] <astraljava> Ahh... crap.
[18:40] <astraljava> Yeah, I did that in terminal while still running X.
[18:41] <charlie-tca> Yeah, it doesn't seem so long when actually doing it, if you have done it before
[18:41]  * astraljava takes the dog for a walk
[18:41] <charlie-tca> and it worked from the terminal?
[18:43] <charlie-tca> Well, I made it to the live session. It is the first xubuntu session now
[18:48] <charlie-tca> bug 825414
[18:48] <charlie-tca> bug 825414
[18:49] <charlie-tca> anyway, that is for the nvidia-common failure
[18:51] <charlie-tca> bug 825414
[18:52] <micahg> someone didn't filter their input :)
[18:54] <charlie-tca> huh?
[18:54] <charlie-tca> what input
[18:54] <charlie-tca> oh
[18:54] <charlie-tca> not me, right/
[18:55] <charlie-tca> Who should I push it too?
[18:55] <micahg> should be fine where it is
[18:55] <charlie-tca> Okay
[18:56] <charlie-tca> fun is just beginning
[18:56] <micahg> right, more breakage to come :)
[18:56] <charlie-tca> Going to be a great weekend!
[19:07] <charlie-tca> hm, no password required to install apps in terminal
[19:08] <charlie-tca> sudo apt-get install gnucash and it is installing it
[19:08] <charlie-tca> no password required
[19:14] <charlie-tca> oops
[19:14] <charlie-tca> live session
[19:15] <charlie-tca> probably better not to need the password
[19:15] <charlie-tca> I will install xubuntu and try that again
[20:11] <charlie-tca> I am jinxed
[20:11] <charlie-tca> stuck at "Configuring target system for, oh, maybe an hour now
[20:12] <charlie-tca> Let's see, set timer, 2 hours should be enough, start timer now
[20:12] <charlie-tca> "Configuring target syste..."
[20:12] <charlie-tca> can't be stuck again, can it?
[20:15] <Unit193> Stop, hammertime ;)
[20:16] <charlie-tca> Gotta wait the 2 hours now, I started the timer already
[20:17] <charlie-tca> going for a walk, will see what happens
[21:04] <charlie-tca> I am starting to think this 10 american dollars computer is broke
[21:06] <jarnos> I wish I could send you another, but I suppose it would be far more expensive to send.
[21:06] <charlie-tca> Yeah, I would expect it to cost more for shipping that than
[21:07] <charlie-tca> Well, I guess I should try the free one and see if it works
[21:09] <jarnos> Good luck
[21:24] <jarnos> I am a little confused about Swap. I have "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0" in /etc/fstab of Oneiric. Gparted is unable to detect swap partition, which I have meant to share between different installations. I updated my main installation to Natty form Maverick...
[21:25] <jarnos> Sorry from Maverick to Natty.
[21:26] <jarnos> And Natty is supposed to have normal swap partition.
[21:26] <jarnos> Does Oneiric somehow prohibit using the same partition for swap?
[21:27] <charlie-tca> If the / or /home is encrypted, as far as I know, /swap must also be encrypted.
[21:27] <charlie-tca> I don't know what happens if /swap is encrypted by /home is not
[21:28] <charlie-tca> I think I read they changed that stuff for oneiric
[21:29] <charlie-tca> They have been working on encrypted stuff, since encrypting /home was blocking the user from logging in at all
[21:29] <charlie-tca> There was a new fix for it today.
[21:30] <jarnos> charlie-tca, IIRC I have never explicitly encrypted swap, but I suppose Oneiric installation did it when I chose to encrypt /home.
[21:30] <charlie-tca> jarnos: thanks for your feedback on project lead, too. I had to wonder if the messages were even going through.
[21:31] <charlie-tca> That would be my guess too.
[21:31] <jarnos> charlie-tca, you are welcome.
[21:31] <charlie-tca> since /swap could be used in extreme cases for stuff in /home
[21:31] <jarnos> oh
[21:32] <charlie-tca> It is just covering all possibilities
[21:33] <jarnos> As for swap, there is also Bug #709363
[21:35] <charlie-tca> yup
[21:35] <charlie-tca> might pull the syslog and partition log from /var/log/installer and attach them to the bug in hopes it will have more information for them to work with
[21:36] <astraljava> I thought the things about project lead were just for the Xubuntu team, no?
[21:36] <charlie-tca> why?
[21:36] <charlie-tca> They are for all users interested in Xubuntu, actually. Might get more team players if it is advertised enough.
[21:37] <charlie-tca> I have to insure it gets published twice before the change can take effect. Otherwise, it will not be valid
[21:37] <jarnos> And Bug #42159
[21:38] <charlie-tca> I haven't seen that happen here, jarnos
[21:38] <charlie-tca> The other one, I think I might have hit before
[21:39] <charlie-tca> Not everyone on Xubuntu Team is subscribed to the -devel mailing list, so I sent it to -users, too
[21:40] <jarnos> I wonder, if it is safe to format the partition now as swap in Natty; I mean can Oneiric use it after that?
[21:41] <charlie-tca> I don't know
[21:41] <charlie-tca> Anyone got Oneiric to install today from desktop images?
[21:54] <madnick> Yes
[21:58] <charlie-tca> desktop or "install now"?
[21:58] <madnick> Oh, "install now"
[21:58] <charlie-tca> Okay. I will try that too
[21:59] <charlie-tca> Then I will try the desktop install on the other computer, too
[22:00] <charlie-tca> Maybe I got what I paid for in this cheap computer
[22:11] <charlie-tca> okay, install from menu worked
[22:14] <charlie-tca> hm, user name is too long, and the gear is hidden by the name now
[22:14] <astraljava> Noo.... really?! *facepalm*
[22:15] <charlie-tca> heh, apparently, you better get the right number of letters in your name
[22:16] <charlie-tca> trying the other computer, see if it will install from the desktop icon
[22:16]  * Unit193 selected the wrong Xubuntu Session -_-
[22:17] <Unit193> Anyone else get nvidia-detector crash on boot?
[22:17] <Unit193> *First live boot
[22:17] <charlie-tca> yup
[22:18] <Unit193> Alright, ignores
[22:18] <charlie-tca> that would be bug 825259
[22:30] <charlie-tca> Installing on second machine to check install from live desktop
[22:31] <Unit193> Seems to be working for me (Since I did a few entires, I'm going with autoresize :P )
[22:32] <charlie-tca> well, great! We have to try most of the install methods by monday, to see what is still broken
[22:32] <Unit193> I could do an entire or manual (Or anything else really) today
[22:38] <jarnos> I tried to update my Oneiric installation on hard disk, but it offered partial upgrade. Is that recommended or something that might change, if I try it later?


[02:14] <jsgotangco> hmm yasis looks great
[02:36] <derek[] > what's yasis?
[02:37] <jsgotangco> icon set
[02:40] <derek[] > k
[02:40] <mhz_food> jsgotangco: i still prefer the more refreshing look of art.gnome.org/themes/icon/1100
[02:41] <jsgotangco> dropline?
[02:41] <jsgotangco> the look like clearn gartoon :)
[02:41] <mhz_food> hehehe
[02:41] <jsgotangco> s/clearn/clean
[02:42] <mhz_food> a little bit
[02:42] <derek[] > give the link to yasis
[02:42] <jsgotangco> mhz_food, did you really appear on tv for edubuntu?
[02:42] <derek[] > plz
[02:42] <mhz_food> well, maybe is because i am too into 3 sets for edubuntu levels + xfce instead of gnome :)
[02:43] <mhz_food> jsgotangco: yup, 3 minutes
[02:43] <mhz_food> jsgotangco: why?
[02:43] <jsgotangco> derek[] , http://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/1168
[02:43] <jsgotangco> wow
[02:43] <mhz_food> too ugly?
[02:43] <derek[] > thx
[02:43] <derek[] > on TV in which country?
[02:43] <jsgotangco> hey at least you got to be on TV and we don't :)
[02:45] <mhz_food> jsgotangco: the note was about Free as in Freedom. I talked almost 2 minutes about Ubuntu and Edubuntu. That was in a tv program called Invasion, 'Chilevision' Channel (Chile)
[02:45] <jsgotangco> haha
[02:45] <jsgotangco> nice title
[02:45] <jsgotangco> "Invasion Chilevision"
[02:45] <mhz_food> :0
[02:45] <jsgotangco> like a sci-fi B Movie
[02:45] <mhz_food> the program: Invasion
[02:46] <mhz_food> Channel: Chilevision
[02:46] <mhz_food> country: Chile
[02:46] <jsgotangco> yeah
[02:46] <jsgotangco> "Invasion Chilevision"
[02:46] <mhz_food> okis
[02:46] <jsgotangco> :D
[02:46] <jsgotangco> invade what?
[02:47] <mhz_food> jsgotangco: the producer promised me to provide a MPG file of it but I have been waiting for almost 2 months
[02:47] <derek[] > i see
[02:47] <mhz_food> and still nothing
[02:47] <mhz_food> :(
[02:48] <mhz_food> jsgotangco: however, if we can carry out out little event at the end of april, I am sure I will have TV and Radio coverage
[02:50] <jsgotangco> hmmm
[02:51] <mhz_food> jsgotangco: oh,, and I just got a phone call requesting I write a 2nd doc about Edubuntu for a magazine delievered at over 500 schools for free
[02:52] <mhz_food> (they had one of my articles issued in December)
[02:52] <jsgotangco> wow
[02:52] <mhz_food> next issue is for March
[02:52] <jsgotangco> did you get paid for that?
[02:52] <mhz_food> nope :(
[02:52] <jsgotangco> doh
[02:52] <jsgotangco> i was given money once
[02:52] <jsgotangco> well not paid
[02:52] <mhz_food> I am even selling my Zaurus SL-5500 and my Fujitsu B2175 :(
[02:53] <jsgotangco> jeezz
[02:53] <jsgotangco> don't sell the zaurus
[02:53] <mhz_food> congrats!
[02:53] <jsgotangco> i'd  love to get a 5500 again
[02:53] <jsgotangco> now i regret selling mine a few years ago
[02:59] <mhz_food> jsgotangco: well, mine is perfect shape
[02:59] <mhz_food> :)
[03:00] <jsgotangco> argghh
[04:36] <derek[] > bbl