[04:58] <danwolf> tritium: I have been having problems with HAL giving me an error when I log into gnome occassionally
[04:59] <danwolf> tritium: I removed my optical drives so that fixed the hal problem temporarily of course
[04:59] <tritium> Ocid, have you tried using NvAGP rather than agpgart?
[04:59] <danwolf> tritium: now I realize I have this problem too
[04:59] <danwolf> tritium: ubuntu has been bugged since I installed it
[04:59] <tritium> danwolf, what exactly is the problem, given that you have X running?
[04:59] <Ocid> tritium: not lately with ubuntu, didn't work well with SID
[04:59] <Paradiossina> hi everybody: what is the little sounds folder in ubuntu?
[04:59] <danwolf> tritium: I had optical drive problems in windows too though
[05:00] <tritium> Ocid, it works best for me, particularly with suspend-to-ram
[05:00] <danwolf> tritium: there is no prob right now, but it will lockup eventually
[05:00] <tritium> danwolf, I see...
[05:00] <dockane> is there a way to change iconset, loginscreen and themes (etc) in ONE go or do i have to get all that stuff together ?
[05:00] <danwolf> tritium: always does
[05:00] <dockane> i am looking at gnome-look.org
[05:00] <tritium> danwolf, sorry, when it happens again, check your log files, dmesg, etc., and see if you can track it down
[05:01] <danwolf> hmm
[05:01] <it4ng1> I need a hoary USB sound guru to help me to fix my USB headset problem
[05:01] <danwolf> what was that last log file?
[05:01] <danwolf> tritium: what was the one log file you mentioned?
[05:01] <Ocid> danwolf: /var/log/messages
[05:01] <tritium> Ocid, thanks
[05:01] <Ocid> danwolf: or command dmesg
[05:01] <danwolf> yeah
[05:01] <danwolf> I know dmesg
[05:02] <danwolf> I will just scroll up
[05:02] <danwolf> heh
[05:03] <danwolf> Ocid: anymore good log files I should check?
[05:03] <Ocid> Xorg.log.0 usually
[05:03] <danwolf> yeah
[05:03] <danwolf> thanks
[05:03] <danwolf> got it
[05:03] <tritium> danwolf, syslog, messages, kern.log for those other problems you're having
[05:03] <Ocid> Xorg.0.log*
[05:04] <danwolf> tritium: are those commands?
[05:04] <tritium> danwolf, no, logfiles in /var/log
[05:04] <danwolf> tritium: or where are they located
[05:04] <Chipparn> i got some problems with my mic to work.. any ideas? do i need to do anything like install drivers or mount sound or something?
[05:04] <danwolf> oh yeah, ok
[05:04] <danwolf> thanks
[05:05] <mikeco> lizdeika, yes, fglrx
[05:05] <tritium> Chipparn, check the "Capture" section of your volume control
[05:05] <cusco> hello! does anyone here uses an ipod?
[05:05] <GuruFF> lo i need to test drive gnomemeeting, does anyone want to help ?
[05:05] <GuruFF> :)
[05:05] <cusco> actually does anyone uses gtkpod?
[05:05] <cusco> I need help connecting for the first time an ipod to ubuntu
[05:06] <danwolf> tritium: Apr 18 21:58:02 localhost kernel: ibm_acpi: ec object not found
[05:06] <Chipparn> tritium: yep i have done that already.. and i tuned up the volume.. but the mic still not working
[05:06] <danwolf> tritium: Apr 18 21:58:01 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: device not accepting address 2, error -71
[05:07] <tritium> Chipparn, in addition to turning up the volume, make sure the Mic audio capture toggle is set
[05:08] <tritium> danwolf, did those errors occur at the time X locked up on you?
[05:08] <zero[] > anyone know if it's possible to type in hebrew in openoffice on an english installation of ubuntu/openoffice?
[05:09] <danwolf> I like the way nvidia is always said to taint the kernel
[05:09] <Chipparn> tritium: ahh thanks.. got it working now..
[05:09] <tritium> zero[] , I can't be certain, but there's a Hebrew language pack: openoffice.org-l10n-he
[05:09] <tritium> Chipparn, excellent :)
[05:09] <zero[] > tririum: thanks, i'll give that a try
[05:10] <danwolf_> tritium: sorry there it went
[05:10] <danwolf_> tritium: locked up on me
[05:10] <danwolf_> lemme try to check my logs, which should I check
[05:10] <danwolf_> tritium: which log would most likely have the error?
[05:10] <tritium> danwolf, don't know
[05:11] <danwolf_> hmm
[05:11] <danwolf_> tritium: I will check the xorg one first
[05:11] <tritium> danwolf, I'll be away for a few minutes...
[05:12] <danwolf_> tritium: are the new errors on the bottom?
[05:12] <space_oddity> -
[05:12] <no0tic> someone has officejetPro1150C scanner working?
[05:12] <danwolf_> tritium: Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list!
[05:12] <no0tic> or knows how to get it working?
[05:14] <flipy> how can I set up ndiswrapper to load at boot time?
[05:14] <usynic> flipy: put it in /etc/modules
[05:15] <bassMonkey> Is firefox 1.0.3 going to be made available for hoary?
[05:15] <tritium> danwolf_, I'm back.  That font error is not important
[05:15] <deFrysk> bassMonkey, nope
[05:15] <Gerrath> Were can I find a list of packages that are included with the Ubuntu Live CD?
[05:16] <AshyR> I can't get my Lucent winmodem to work properly.  I can get it to dial, it connects, but doesn't seem to get to the point where it sends the username/pass or something.. I've tried the network connections thing, pppconfig, various things with wvdial and manual config attempts, gnome-ppp.. Maybe my ISP is weird.
[05:16] <danwolf_> hmm
[05:16] <danwolf_> tritium: I dunno then what I am looking for
[05:17] <bassMonkey> deFrysk: but isn't it a security update? aren't those supposed to be added?
[05:17] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> is there any settings  for auth in the dialer your using ?
[05:17] <danwolf_> tritium: I see a bunch of stuff like Apr 19 10:14:37 localhost kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V3 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 8x mode
[05:17] <danwolf_> a bunch
[05:17] <astro76> Gerrath: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-live-i386.manifest
[05:17] <danwolf_> tritium: and a lot of Apr 19 10:14:37 localhost udev[12046] : removing device node '/dev/vcsa8'
[05:18] <AshyR> I think by default "noauth" was in one of the files.. /etc/ppp/options or /etc/ppp/peers/provider, I forget which.
[05:18] <tritium> danwolf_, doesn't look like you're finding anything that indicates the cause
[05:18] <danwolf_> tritium: an some dhcp things
[05:18] <danwolf_> tritium: lemme keep digging
[05:18] <tritium> danwolf_, okay, I'm going to have to get going to get some work done.  Take care.
[05:19] <deFrysk> bassMonkey, afaIk firofox wil be patched if needed , but the version of firefox will remain as is
[05:19] <danwolf_> tritium: shit, ok
[05:19] <chicken_man> need help with apache ? join #apachehelp on this server
[05:20] <danwolf_> Symbol __glXgetActiveScreen from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved!
[05:20] <danwolf_> whats that mean?
[05:20] <danwolf_> anyone seen that?
[05:20] <danwolf_> will it cause gdm to lockup?
[05:20] <tritium> danwolf_, do you have the "dri" module loaded in your xorg.conf?
[05:20] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> is there any othere repos out there unthere thatn the ubuntu site >?
[05:20] <danwolf_> dunno tritium
[05:21] <danwolf_> where will that be?
[05:21] <tritium> danwolf_, check please?
[05:21] <zero[] > tritium: i can copy and paste hebrew, but if i type in the hebrew font i still see english characters.. do i need to change my keyboard settings or something?
[05:21] <danwolf_> tritium: where in xorg.conf would it be?
[05:21] <tritium> danwolf_, grep dri /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:22] <tritium> zero[] , no idea.  I've only used english.  Sorry.
[05:22] <zero[] > oh
[05:22] <danwolf_> Section "DRI"
[05:22] <danwolf_>         Mode    0666
[05:22] <danwolf_> tritium: yeah I got a hit on the grep
[05:22] <tritium> danwolf_, okay, but no Load "dri" line?
[05:23] <chicken_man> need help with apache ? join #apachehelp on this server
[05:23] <Ocid> danwolf_: should be in the beginning of xorg-conf -> load "dri"
[05:23] <danwolf_> yes
[05:23] <thr1ce> anyone have 3d accel working with ATI ?
[05:23] <danwolf_> tritium: Section "Module"
[05:23] <danwolf_>         Load    "bitmap"
[05:23] <danwolf_>         Load    "dbe"
[05:23] <danwolf_>         Load    "ddc"
[05:23] <danwolf_>         Load    "dri"
[05:23] <danwolf_>         Load    "extmod"
[05:23] <danwolf_>         Load    "freetype"
[05:23] <danwolf_>         Load    "glx"
[05:23] <danwolf_>         Load    "int10"
[05:23] <danwolf_>         Load    "record"
[05:23] <thenuke> danwolf_: nice.
[05:23] <danwolf_>         Load    "type1"
[05:23] <danwolf_>         Load    "vbe"
[05:24] <thr1ce> stop, use #food
[05:24] <thr1ce> flood
[05:24] <zenrox> FLOOOD
[05:24] <danwolf_> EndSection
[05:24] <mjr> thr1ce, yes, but I have a 9250 which is supported by the default free driver, which probably doesn't apply to you?
[05:24] <danwolf_> sorry guus
[05:24] <wezzer> aiee
[05:24] <thr1ce> i want my 9700 pro to work
[05:24] <danwolf_> please don't kick me
[05:24] <danwolf_> heh
[05:24] <danwolf_> at least it wasnt tooo long
[05:24] <thr1ce> yes it was
[05:24] <danwolf_> oh well, sorry
[05:24] <tritium> danwolf_, technically., /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.gz says not to load "dri", so you can try commenting out that line.  It really shouldn't cause that problem, however, but you can try...
[05:25] <danwolf_> what about the glx stuff?
[05:25] <danwolf_> tritium: whats the dri do?
[05:25] <Ocid> danwolf_: http://ocid.homelinux.net/files/xorg.conf <- compare yours with that
[05:25] <ploum> hello
[05:25] <tritium> danwolf_, it's related to the glx error you showed us
[05:25] <GuruFF> helo; i need help with gnomemeeting, aynone suceed in talking with netmeeting; i have read stuff online and there is noone on #gnomemeeting channel
[05:25] <chicken_man> need help with apache ? join #apachehelp on this server
[05:26] <tritium> chicken_man, we've seen that before.  Please don't repeat
[05:26] <danwolf_> tritium: ok I will remove the dri line
[05:26] <ploum> On Ubuntu Hoary, somes flash website don't display text. (take a look a http://kartoo.com/ for an example).  Any idea on how to solve this ?
[05:26] <danwolf_> Ocid: mine looks a lot like yours
[05:26] <chicken_man> sorry just trying to help
[05:26] <Amaranth> Need help with apache? Join the real #apache channel.
[05:26] <chicken_man> lol
[05:27] <thr1ce> so noone has 3d accel working with fglrx ?
[05:27] <danwolf_> tritium: I can just # that line out right? then do I need to full restart? or just restart gdm?
[05:27] <eleusis> i do
[05:28] <Ocid> danwolf_: just restart X
[05:28] <tritium> danwolf_, you can simply restart gdm
[05:28] <thr1ce> eleusis, may I PM you ?
[05:28] <danwolf_> ok thanks
[05:28] <wezzer-> ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:28] <danwolf_> wish me luck
[05:28] <Ocid> danwolf_: with ctrl-alt-backspace
[05:28] <danwolf_> Ocid: yeah I know
[05:28] <danwolf_> that never really works for me though
[05:28] <danwolf_> always just goes to a black screen
[05:28] <danwolf_> then I gotta kill gdm and restart it
[05:28] <Ocid> weird
[05:29] <eleusis> thr1ce: all i did was use the info @ http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html
[05:29] <Ocid> are you sure that your gfx card is not running too hot?
[05:29] <tritium> thr1ce, did you follow: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto ?
[05:29] <danwolf_> Ocid:  me?
[05:29] <Ocid> yeah
[05:29] <danwolf_> Ocid: maybe...
[05:29] <thr1ce> tritium, yes, it doesn't work that well
[05:29] <danwolf_> never gotta lockup in windows
[05:30] <Ocid> danwolf_: how about in 3d games?
[05:30] <danwolf_> not in windows
[05:30] <danwolf_> and not in ubuntu either
[05:30] <danwolf_> its almost always just when its sittin
[05:30] <danwolf_> doing not much of nothin
[05:30] <Ocid> danwolf_: and an old issue nvidia works poorly with old intel ZX chipsets
[05:30] <tritium> danwolf_, I'll let Ocid help you now, if he has time.  I need to get going.
[05:31] <danwolf_> ok
[05:31] <danwolf_> tritium: thanks a lot
[05:31] <Ocid> hmz, so do i....
[05:31] <danwolf_> its cool guys
[05:31] <danwolf_> me too
[05:31] <danwolf_> class in 20
[05:31] <danwolf_> later
[05:31] <danwolf_> thanks
[05:31] <Ocid> l8r
[05:31] <tritium> danwolf_, sure.  See you.  You too Ocid.
[05:31] <Ocid> se ya tritium
[05:31] <enotnert> hey, ive got a quick support question if someone can help me out
[05:32] <enotnert> nothing big
[05:32] <chicken_man> if any one want's to learn C++ checkout my C++ guide http://<IP_ADDRESS>/apache2-default/help/
[05:32] <enotnert> I am trying my first ubuntu install (im normally a gentoo user) and I get to the "configure apt" step, and it is taking forever, I see activity on eth0, and my question is this
[05:33] <enotnert> is it attempting to download and upgrade any packages that are currently out of date in that step? I am on dialup, and I let it sit over nite, 100 something megs of traffic came into eth0, and that was my only thought
[05:34] <chicken_man> enotnert, ubuntu is 512MB +
[05:34] <chicken_man> for full
[05:34] <AshyR> When I installed Ubuntu for the first time yesterday, it was taking forever on "configure apt" twice.. (well, maybe 5-10 minutes).. No other computers were on or anything though, let alone sharing the network, and it didn't dial out so I don't know what it was doing at that point
[05:34] <enotnert> yeah, but its this deal, ive got the install iso, it was a 500 somethign meg download, is there not a resident apt-repository on it?
[05:35] <chicken_man> enotnert, order a free cd www.ubuntulinux.org
[05:35] <enotnert> right now, ive got the network disconnected from said machine, hoping itll configure apt sans network this go round
[05:35] <enotnert> chicken_man: ive got a cd
[05:35] <chicken_man> enotnert, ahhh
[05:35] <dockane> i saw a german speech from the chaos computer club on some meeting in hamburg where they showed the vulnerability and uselesness of software firewalls on window$. they even said its a security risk to use them as the firewall itself is one runnning service more that can be attacked. i wonder that firestarter uses this concept too or is this application for all the window$ u$er who feel safe only with something like this ?
[05:35] <kynes> i added this line:
[05:35] <chicken_man> do a normal install and when it asks for updates off the net say no
[05:35] <kynes> /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    umask=0222      0       0
[05:35] <enotnert> what im saying is during the actual install, when it got to configure apt, eth0 lit up like crazy (for dialup_
[05:35] <kynes> to /etc/fstab
[05:36] <kynes> and when I try an mp3 in xmms
[05:36] <kynes> it crashes
[05:36] <kynes> when I press play
[05:36] <kynes> dmesg shows errors about unicode characters
[05:36] <chicken_man> enotnert, press no when it asks for updates
[05:36] <kynes> what must I do?
[05:37] <enotnert> it never asked the question about updates from the 'net, or either i wasnt reading into it
[05:37] <chicken_man> enotnert, what you installing warty or horey
[05:37] <AshyR> I don't remember it asking, either.. maybe if it was started with... I forget the option, debian/priority=medium or something?
[05:37] <enotnert> kynes, you do have ntfs support compiled in the kernel right?
[05:37] <enotnert> and chicken, horey
[05:37] <enotnert> i drove to a friends house last nite to jack broadband to get it
[05:38] <grumpysmurf> ntfs is included w/ hoary...
[05:38] <chicken_man> enotnert, well i got warty at the mo i orderd a horey cd
[05:38] <enotnert> and kynes: ive always had issues with ntfs reading especially as a "normal user"
[05:38] <kynes> hmm
[05:38] <kynes> I'll look and tell you
[05:38] <enotnert> chicken: i just basically decided to give ubuntu a go, cause my gentoo install started having horrendous X problems, and to be frank, I was way way too lazy to fix
[05:39] <kynes> okay
[05:39] <chicken_man> enotnert, yes ubuntu is good and easy to install (well it's suppost to be)
[05:39] <kynes> I tried the suser but
[05:39] <kynes> no help
[05:39] <kynes> it just gets stuck
[05:40] <enotnert> also, double make sure youve got that ntfs beast mounted as RO
[05:40] <kynes> how can I control ntfs support compile in the kernel?
[05:40] <chicken_man> can some one tell me whats making my KDE desktop crash ?
[05:40] <enotnert> and as s-user, issue "lsmod" on the CLI and check for the ntfs module
[05:41] <kynes> it exists
[05:41] <grumpysmurf> kynes lsmod | grep ntfs
[05:41] <kynes> ntfs            97136 1
[05:41] <kynes> it is
[05:41] <sig> chicken_man: thats kind of a vague question
[05:41] <grumpysmurf> okay, so whats the problem?
[05:42] <chicken_man> sig, ehhhhh
[05:42] <sig> what are you doing to make it crash? Or what app are you opening that makes it crash?
[05:42] <kynes> when I open the mp3 file with Xmms
[05:42] <chicken_man> sig, im not sure it's random \ moveing files \ opening things
[05:42] <kynes> it just crashes when it starts to do anything with the file
[05:42] <occy> snowblink: man, you pimp out that URL don't you?  ;)
[05:42] <kynes> I can add the file but not read
[05:42] <occy> snowblink: no worries, that's what I put it there for.
[05:43] <snowblink> occy, heh it does what it says on the box. ;)
[05:43] <chicken_man> sig, it works fine for a while then just stops and desktop disapere
[05:43] <kynes> /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    umask=0222      0       0
[05:43] <sig> chicken_man: hmm
[05:43] <kynes> is the /etc/fstab line
[05:43] <kynes> may it be about this?
[05:43] <chicken_man> sig, desktop icons i mean
[05:43] <occy> snowblink: not sure I understood that one...
[05:43] <grumpysmurf> can you read other files on the ntfs filesystem?
[05:43] <sig> chicken_man: #kde
[05:44] <chicken_man> sig, k
[05:44] <zero[] > what's the openoffice path? when i do whereis openoffice i get "openoffice: /usr/bin/openoffice /etc/openoffice /usr/lib/openoffice /usr/share/openoffice.org-debian-files /usr/share/openoffice /usr/share/man/man1/openoffice.1.gz"
[05:45] <snowblink> occy, there is no excess crap on that page. It's about emacs keybindings on Gnome. Perfect. :)
[05:45] <kynes> what's your fstab line?
[05:45] <kynes> please paste
[05:45] <occy> ahhh
[05:45] <kynes> ntfs users I mean
[05:45] <enotnert> fookin a, its locked at apt-configure again
[05:45] <enotnert> 25%
[05:45] <AshyR> hmm.. when I added to fstab for a ntfs partition, I could only see things as root (with sudo), even if I added a umask=0666 or the like
[05:45] <enotnert> is there an "escape to menu" command in the setup anyone knows of?
[05:45] <occy> snowblink: I'm glad it's getting used.  We should start a petition to get the damned thing turned back on as an option.
[05:45] <AshyR> enotnert: it did that to me but only for about 5-10 minutes, then it continued
[05:45] <grumpysmurf> kynes can you read other files on the ntfs filesystem?
[05:46] <kynes> I added umask=0222
[05:46] <occy> snowblink: it's silly we have to edit the config like that.
[05:46] <enotnert> ok ashy, ill let it sit till noonish
[05:46] <kynes> and I can see with the normal user actually
[05:46] <kynes> yes :)
[05:46] <snowblink> occy, you could try submitting it as a bug...
[05:46] <AshyR> enotnert: I have a network card, but the other computer was off, and don't have DSL, just dialup.  at any rate, it did sit on "configuring apt" like that for a little
[05:46] <kynes> I have a very big Jana Cova thumbnail right there!
[05:46] <kynes> :))
[05:47] <usynic> ok, I caught it.  I'm in gentoo right now, and I cannot type ps fax in a terminal.  It just hangs.
[05:47] <grumpysmurf> kynes, can you play mp3 files from other filesystems?  can you copy the mp3 you're trying to play to say, /tmp and play it from there?
[05:47] <thr1ce> ps aux
[05:47] <kynes> I tried .wav
[05:47] <kynes> too
[05:47] <usynic> anyone have any idea what could be wrong?
[05:47] <kynes> I'll try some moe and tell
[05:47] <thr1ce> [drm]  failed to load kernel module "fglrx"
[05:47] <thr1ce> (II) fglrx(0): [drm]  drmOpen failed
[05:47] <thr1ce> (EE) fglrx(0): DRIScreenInit failed!
[05:47] <enotnert> ashy: yeah, it sat like this overnite last nite, i just figured itd unlock eventually. . . so this go round i unplugged any network connection the machine had so it couldnt attempt to download anything
[05:47] <thr1ce> anyone know why I might get that
[05:47] <usynic> er... not gentoo, ubuntu
[05:48] <thr1ce> (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed!                  *
[05:48] <thr1ce> (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad)
[05:48] <enotnert> thr1ce, try running with just plain vesa drivers
[05:48] <thr1ce> enotnert, it reverted back to them
[05:49] <thr1ce> i'm trying to get 3D working, but that error comesup
[05:49] <thr1ce> comes up
[05:49] <enotnert> *strokes chin* have you lsmodded to see if that module is up and running, or if its an X only module, if its within the X drivers realm?
[05:49] <enotnert> what kind of card does FGLRX work for?
[05:49] <hawke> enotnert: firegl
[05:49] <usynic> can anyone help here?  This is happening on two machines, so it's not just machine specific.
[05:50] <enotnert> thanks hawke, im not keen on most the drivers these days
[05:50] <hawke> enotnert: and I think some radeon cards
[05:50] <enotnert> thr1ce, is try probing the module and bringing it up manually, kind of like you have to do for nvidia acceleration
[05:53] <Chipparn> does anyone know why the package sun-j2re1.5 isnt found when i try apt-get install sun-j2re1.5? oh and i have added the extra repositiries.
[05:54] <sig> Chipparn: http://ubuntuguide.org
[05:54] <sig> http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[05:54] <dockane> there a lot of things to do for me after each ubuntu installation ...(mainly i took the advices from ubuntuguide.org). what would be the best way to save these changes for another install ? save the changed files ? make a bash script ?
[05:55] <Fulg> hey
[05:55] <Chipparn> sig: yep thats what i have been reading..
[05:55] <sig> dockane: none, just do a dist-upgrade
[05:55] <sig> thats what I did
[05:55] <sig> shouldn't overwrite your stuff
[05:55] <Fulg> does anyone have a clue how can i make my x-chat transparent ?
[05:55] <Chipparn> sig: it doesnt work
[05:55] <sig> Fulg: right click: settings > preferences > Text box
[05:56] <Fulg> ok
[05:56] <Fulg> i found :D
[05:56] <Chipparn> sig: coult it be something wrong with the server the package is located on meaby?
[05:56] <sig> Chipparn: does it error out?
[05:56] <sig> the wget part?
[05:56] <Chipparn> sig: the package isnt founf.
[05:56] <chicken_man> brb
[05:56] <sig> yeah
[05:57] <dockane> sig, no you missunderstood me. i.e. i installed the blowfish script for xchat, cahnged a bit in gnome appearance and so on. how do i save this i.e. for another installation of ubuntu on a _different system to load them there
[05:57] <sig> obviously thats the problem
[05:57] <sig> unless you pasted it wrong
[05:57] <TweedleDumb> anyone know how to get the vga-out connection to work on a dual usb ibook?
[05:57] <sig> apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[05:57] <sig> java -version
[05:58] <sig> sig@idaho:~ $ java -version
[05:58] <sig> java version "1.5.0_01"
[05:58] <sig> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_01-b08)
[05:58] <sig> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_01-b08, mixed mode)
[05:58] <cens0red> sun-j2re is in the standard repositories?
[05:58] <Chipparn> sig: it dosnt work.
[05:58] <cens0red> in sources.list ?
[05:58] <Chipparn> i have added the extra repositories.
[05:59] <enotnert> hmmm, could it be locking due to a perl farkup. . . theres a "perl warning" over in one of the VC's
[05:59] <Fulg> and the userlist ?
[05:59] <Fulg> how do i make the userlist invisible
[05:59] <Fulg> ?
[06:00] <darinlh> Chipparn, ubuntuguide.org install instructions worked for me to get java running
[06:01] <kynes> ok
[06:01] <kynes> I checked
[06:01] <kynes> xmms
[06:01] <enotnert> find out something interesting kynes?
[06:01] <kynes> it just crashes upon trying to play some file
[06:01] <zAo^> how can I save the posistion/size of a QT program?
[06:01] <enotnert> so it plays other off the ntfs volume?
[06:02] <kynes> ntfs has nothing that causes problem
[06:02] <kynes> it's xmms
[06:02] <enotnert> *nod*
[06:02] <kynes> but I can't figure out why it behaves like this
[06:02] <enotnert> xmms can get flitty with somethings
[06:02] <markuman> how to make a link from my /mnt folder (other hdd devices) to desktop?
[06:02] <enotnert> have you tried rhythmbox yet kynes? one of my buddies had to flop to it, and loves it
[06:02] <kynes> I installed it from Synaptic Package Manager
[06:02] <farruinn> TweedleDumb: take a look at what this guy did: http://www.ebrag.de/XF86Config-ibook-dual
[06:03] <SeamusLP> kynes:  Have you chosen esound as the output plugin?
[06:03] <kynes> I'll try but Xmms used to work fine in Slack,Redhat,Mandrake.. etc
[06:03] <kynes> why not ubuntu?
[06:03] <sig> why hasn't ubuntu put out a security update for firefox yet? the latest version is 1.0.3 and Ubuntu is using 1.0.2
[06:03] <sig> and from 1.0.2 > 1.0.3 was a security update
[06:04] <enotnert> kynes, thats the fun of linux, figuring out whats done gone bezerk
[06:04] <farruinn> kynes: what type of file are you trying to play?
[06:04] <SeamusLP> kynes rhythmbox is the "official" player if you will.  You may have to play with an xmms setting to get it to work.
[06:04] <farruinn> kynes: if it's mp3 you'll have to install the xmms plugin, also make sure you have xmms set to use esd
[06:04] <kynes> okay
[06:04] <Absenth> anyone know if dist-uptrade to breezy is avalible yet?
[06:04] <farruinn> I think xmms calls it esound
[06:04] <kynes> who said esound output plugin is the winner here
[06:04] <kynes> :)
[06:04] <kynes> thanks
[06:05] <SeamusLP> kynes:  See?  No prob man.
[06:05] <kynes> why OSS doesn't work?
[06:05] <farruinn> because esd has control of /dev/dsp
[06:05] <farruinn> if you killed esd you could use oss I guess
[06:05] <kynes> okay
[06:05] <darkaudit> habemus papum
[06:05] <SeamusLP> Yeah, esd has exclusive control for some reason.  There is a way to change this, though, and it's not killing esd ;) that's just the dirty way to do it
[06:05] <SeamusLP> You can make esd only run when needed
[06:06] <kynes> how
[06:06] <SeamusLP> It's a configuration file, I'm looking now
[06:06] <WebMaven> Hi folks, I'm trying to get PPTP working, but Synaptic can't find the kernel-patch-mppe package. Any ideas?
[06:06] <farruinn> I think there's also a command that you can run that forces other apps to use esd
[06:07] <farruinn> crimsun may have mentioned it before
[06:07] <WebMaven> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/comm/kernel-patch-mppe
[06:07] <kynes> I need that too
[06:07] <kynes> there is no sound in e.g. chromium
[06:07] <kynes> or other games running from console
[06:08] <kynes> or else
[06:08] <SeamusLP> OK kynes load up a console and do this
[06:08] <WebMaven> Here is what I tried:
[06:08] <SeamusLP> sudo gedit /etc/esound/esd.conf
[06:08] <WebMaven> root@journeyman:/home/webmaven # apt-get install kernel-patch-mppe
[06:08] <WebMaven> Reading package lists... Done
[06:08] <WebMaven> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:08] <WebMaven> Package kernel-patch-mppe is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:08] <WebMaven> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:08] <WebMaven> is only available from another source
[06:08] <WebMaven> E: Package kernel-patch-mppe has no installation candidate
[06:08] <WebMaven> root@journeyman:/home/webmaven #
[06:08] <farruinn> oi, no flood please
[06:08] <SeamusLP> kynes:  Do you see where it says spawn_options?
[06:09] <kynes> okay
[06:09] <WebMaven> farruinn, 8 lines is a flood?
[06:09] <kynes> yea
[06:09] <kynes> -terminate -nobeeps -as 5
[06:09] <farruinn> you could try sudo apt-get build-dep kernel-patch-mppe ; sudo apt-get source -b kernel-patch-mppe
[06:09] <SeamusLP> try this spawn_options=-terminate -nobeeps -as 2 -d default
[06:09] <snowblink> sig, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24306
[06:09] <grumpysmurf> instead of pasting a bunch of lines into the channel, you can use pastebin.com :)
[06:09] <farruinn> WebMaven: it may be somewhat quiet in here now, but when this place is really hopping it gets extremely annoying
[06:10] <SeamusLP> kynes:  Then you have to save the file and restart your gnome session
[06:10] <WebMaven> OK, what is the threshold considered for flooding?
[06:10] <kynes> okay, doing it
[06:11] <sig> snowblink: thats exactly why I'm asking
[06:11] <Awayken> Hey, has anyone tried putting Ubuntu on a TabletPC?
[06:11] <kynes> can I restart gnome session and not close other programs?
[06:11] <kynes> such as this Irc
[06:11] <SeamusLP> kynes this should mean that you won't have problems with apps that use OSS, however I thik you'll have to stop your music or whatever before you load them
[06:12] <WebMaven> farruinn, grumpysmurf, what is the threshold considered for flooding?
[06:12] <AshyR> as for my modem.. I think I'll try something from linmodems.org instead of the lt_serial/lt_modems that comes with Hoary, someone said that worked for them.
[06:12] <paulproteus> kynes: Quitting GNOME will quit every graphical program running.
[06:12] <SeamusLP> kynes:  Well try this
[06:12] <grumpysmurf> more than two lines ;)
[06:12] <farruinn> WebMaven: a couple lines is tolerable, but as little as possible is best
[06:12] <SeamusLP> kynes:  killall esd
[06:12] <SeamusLP> kynes then type esd&
[06:12] <WebMaven> OK.
[06:12] <grumpysmurf> paste stuff here: http://pastebin.com/ and then provide a link
[06:13] <farruinn> kynes: if you use something like irssi or bitchx you can run those in screen and stay in the channel while you logout
[06:13] <WebMaven> farruinn, can you explain the commands you were suggesting I run with sudo?
[06:13] <grumpysmurf> bah, bitchx goes in one tab in gnome-terminal, then open another tab for running commands, etc.
[06:13] <kynes> I use X-Chat now
[06:13] <farruinn> WebMaven: apt-get build-dep gets the packages necessary to build kernel-patches-mppe from source
[06:13] <kynes> farruinn: but thanks
[06:14] <kynes> Seamus: it didn't work
[06:14] <keffo> anyone knows why my fluxbox takes like 2-3 min before i can see menus etc?
[06:14] <grumpysmurf> ironically, MDI windowing is one of the worst interface ideas ever, but tabbed windows are like, awesome.
[06:14] <farruinn> apt-get source -b downloads the source package and builds it
[06:14] <kynes> Seamus: I mean.. it worked and did make a sound
[06:14] <cspnico> yop
[06:14] <keffo> apt-get install fluxbox <-
[06:14] <SeamusLP> kynes:  What happened?
[06:14] <kynes> Seamus: but when I opened a game, it was the same
[06:14] <SeamusLP> What game?
[06:14] <WebMaven> farruinn, and then I would still need to apt-get install it?
[06:15] <kynes> chromium
[06:15] <WebMaven> or would I need to use dpkg -i ?
[06:15] <farruinn> I think you need to 'sudo dpkg -i' the resultant .dpkg
[06:15] <snowblink> sig, it is interesting that it has not been addressed. Until then, I guess just install it straight from mozilla.
[06:15] <farruinn> it's been a while for me
[06:15] <SeamusLP> try going to system -> preferences -> multimedia systems selector and choosing ESD for your output
[06:15] <WebMaven> farruinn, thank you.
[06:16] <farruinn> WebMaven: out of curiousity, what architecture do you use?
[06:16] <trygvebw> Hi, in which package is the glut.h file?
[06:16] <kynes> it's already defined that way
[06:16] <kynes> Seamus: it's already defined that way
[06:16] <kynes> Seamus: input: OSS output: ESD
[06:17] <WebMaven> farruinn, I use k7
[06:17] <WebMaven> And I'm getting this: E: Unable to find a source package for kernel-patch-mppe
[06:17] <snowblink> sig, maybe I misunderstood their freeze/security policy, but I thought that they would still be security patching programs - firefox in this case
[06:17] <SeamusLP> kynes:  Yeah I just tried it I'm nto getting sound either
[06:18] <kynes> Seamus: so it's partially okay I guess :)
[06:18] <farruinn> WebMaven: have you run apt-get update recently? the package should be available for all archs
[06:18] <kynes> Seamus: if you see someone playing with sound, tell me then
[06:18] <farruinn> WebMaven: it's in universe btw
[06:19] <WebMaven> farruinn, I have the universe repo enabled.
[06:19] <farruinn> :/, that's most puzzling
[06:19] <WebMaven> what does it mean if a package has a page like this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/comm/kernel-patch-mppe
[06:19] <SeamusLP> kynes:  Nevermind, it's working for me.
[06:19] <WebMaven> but isn't listed here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/comm/
[06:19] <WebMaven> ?
[06:20] <SeamusLP> kynes:  Do you have more than one soundcard?
[06:20] <djm62>  ^_^
[06:21] <farruinn> WebMaven: I'd ask in #ubuntu-motu, they should know what's going on with it
[06:21] <kynes> Seamus: no, I have an intel on HP nx5000
[06:21] <tolle> As fast as I try to use any of the "Userfriendly Wlan scanners" lite netapp, Network Manager, wifi-radar... my connection stops working.
[06:22] <djm62> allo
[06:22] <tolle> Doesnt the madwifi drivers support the stuff they try to do?
[06:22] <snowblink> I'm a little surprised at the lack of fuss over this matter
[06:22] <khj> Hi guys (and gals). How do I apply a trash applet to my desktop?
[06:22] <farruinn> desktop or panel?
[06:23] <khj> desktop
[06:23] <farruinn> there's a setting in gconf, I can't remember what it is specifically though
[06:23] <WebMaven> OK, thx.
[06:23] <SeamusLP> kynes:  See what happens when you close your music players and attempt to run chromium
[06:23] <Wings> right, nvidia drivers work
[06:23] <farruinn> khj: let me see if I can find it (in Configuration Editor)
[06:23] <Wings> but I can't find the menu editor
[06:23] <Wings> where is it hidden?
[06:24] <farruinn> it's nonexistant, as of yet
[06:24] <khj> farruinn, ok, thanks
[06:24] <SeamusLP> kynes:  also try running chromium from the console and see if you get any errors
[06:24] <Wings> can anyone tell me?
[06:24] <farruinn> Wings: try ubuntuguide.org/#menu-editor
[06:25] <kynes> Seamus: I already tried it this way
[06:25] <khj> Anyone else?
[06:25] <kynes> Seamus: and nothing changed
[06:25] <Wings> thanks farruinn
[06:26] <SeamusLP> kynes:  No error output to the console?
[06:26] <djm62> khj: can you create a shortcut to location "trash:" on the desktop?
[06:27] <kynes> error output for sure.. :)
[06:27] <djm62> khj: not on ubuntu atm so this is speculative
[06:27] <kynes> here it is:
[06:27] <SeamusLP> pm the error to me if it's long
[06:27] <grumpysmurf> there's an icon for 'trash' on the panel...
[06:27] <farruinn> khj: foudn it, open Configuration Editor from the Applications>System menu
[06:27] <snowblink> khj, regedit->/apps/nautilus/desktop
[06:28] <kynes> open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy
[06:28] <Wings> new entry doesn't seem to do anything
[06:28] <kynes> and it says "ATTENTION : ... an error is encountered.. bla bla.. " and "Audio is disabled."
[06:28] <farruinn> khj: then browse to what snowblink just said
[06:28] <SeamusLP> crap, I thought I had you fix that
[06:28] <SeamusLP> looks like esd is still hogging your soundcard
[06:28] <kynes> session restart?
[06:29] <kynes> will it help?
[06:29] <kynes> or reboot?
[06:29] <SeamusLP> Yeah a session restart may help
[06:29] <kynes> okay
[06:29] <kynes> will try now
[06:29] <Dew_> how do i install bzflag
[06:30] <farruinn> enable universe  then apt-get install it
[06:31] <Dew_> farruinn It not have bzflag 2
[06:32] <farruinn> you'll probably have to get it directly from the bzflag website then, but be warned that installing foreign software is not recommended
[06:33] <farruinn> it's usually best to install only with apt
[06:34] <templer> hi all, excuse me, i can't find how to update synaptic pachage(in the previous intallation there was 16000 and now there are only 3000)
[06:34] <bored2k> templer go to a terminal and type sudo apt-get update
[06:34] <templer> thx
[06:35] <djm62> there is a backport of bzflag2...not recommended I think
[06:35] <bored2k> templer synaptic has to be closed btw
[06:35] <CarlK> is there a command line way to add repositories, other than echo "stuff" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:35] <Dew_> farruinn I have debian package but it can not install
[06:35] <bored2k> CarlK you can just edit that file with any text editor like "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:35] <Dew_> farruinn It has problem with dependency
[06:36] <farruinn> can you install the dependencies with apt?
[06:36] <CarlK> bored2k - i want something a script can do
[06:37] <djm62> CarlK: I don't think so...it might be a script worth writing, but I haven't heard of anyone doing it
[06:37] <CarlK> rats - I know apt has gotten pissed when I have the same repository listed twice
[06:38] <djm62> CarlK: uniq might help there?
[06:38] <CarlK> djm62 - yeah, but I don't "need" it right now and I am not borred, so it can wait ;)
[06:40] <Dew_> farruinn It has problem because some package has word "ubuntu" such as "libcurl3_7.12.3-2ubuntu3"
[06:40] <templer> hi all, excuse me, i can't find how to update synaptic pachage(in the previous intallation there was 16000 and now there are only 3000) (apt-get update/upgrade doesn't seem to work..)
[06:40] <SeamusLP> lol it always bothers me when I help someone, then they have to restart their session and I never see them again
[06:40] <abarbaccia> templer, did you edit your apt config to enable the universe?
[06:41] <templer> nope...never heard of it..
[06:41] <farruinn> Dew_: in that case I guess you could do "dpkg -i --force *.dpkg"
[06:41] <CarlK> this chat needs a comand to  "enable the universe" - it would make help easier
[06:41] <digitalwoot> ah hah I love the live cd... I am on a powerbook 12"......
[06:42] <kynes> Seamus: it didn't work
[06:42] <kynes> Seamus: after reboot, it's the same
[06:42] <SeamusLP> kynes: reboot?  All you had to do was logout of gnome ;)
[06:42] <templer> going to check..thx
[06:42] <kynes> yea
[06:42] <kynes> i first did it
[06:42] <kynes> and then reboot
[06:42] <kynes> tried both
[06:42] <abarbaccia> templer, nano /etc/apt/source.list    --  and uncomment the lines for the universe, then apt-get update
[06:42] <qwe> so is everything in ubuntu/pool/main on the cd?
[06:42] <SeamusLP> Are you certain you saved your /etc/esound/esd.conf ?
[06:42] <djm62> CarlK: this chat?
[06:43] <kynes> yes
[06:43] <digitalwoot> anyone have a quick link on a how-to for dummies on getting the ATI drivers to work and enabling them etc.. on ubuntu for amd64
[06:43] <farruinn> digitalwoot: ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDrivers I think
[06:43] <farruinn> there should also be something on ubuntuguide.org
[06:43] <digitalwoot> okay...
[06:43] <farruinn> although I'm not sure it even works for amd64
[06:43] <digitalwoot> I am semi-savvy but am not having much luck...
[06:43] <digitalwoot> I installed them....
[06:44] <SeamusLP> kynes:  Hmm I'm positive I have the same settings as you, yet I can get alsa, esd, and oss existing peacefully
[06:44] <CarlK> djm62 - for things like this: abarbaccia: templer, did you edit your apt config to enable the universe?
[06:44] <digitalwoot> so do I have to manually edit xorg.conf../
[06:44] <SeamusLP> kynes:  When you run chromium you may just have to do killall esd
[06:45] <cens0red> is there an equivelant to kdesu in gnome?
[06:45] <digitalwoot> or can I auto configure something..? bummer is I don't have net at home for the ubuntu box so looking up help while doing it is a pain
[06:45] <farruinn> cens0red: gksudo
[06:45] <kynes> Seamus: it worked man :)
[06:45] <kynes> Seamus: thanks
[06:45] <cens0red> farruinn ty.
[06:45] <CarlK> djm62 - "that" wouldn't really be hellped, but if the answer is "no" then the "how to enable universe" is easier
[06:45] <kynes> what's that esd thing anyway??
[06:45] <kynes> is it good to have
[06:46] <Dew_> farruinn I can use "dpkg -i --force ...deb"
[06:46] <kynes> useful?
[06:46] <digitalwoot> Thanks for the help gtg all
[06:46] <SeamusLP> kynes It's the sound daemon.  Your system sounds go through it.
[06:46] <Dew_> farruinn But now I can install I use " dpkg -i --ignore-depends=libcurl3 bzflag_<IP_ADDRESS>50318_i386.deb"
[06:46] <nickrud> kynes, enlightend sound daemon
[06:46] <SeamusLP> kynes also you can configure xmms, totem, just about anything to use it.
[06:46] <kynes> yea I know it
[06:46] <kynes> but OSS and ALSA
[06:46] <kynes> what's the difference between all
[06:47] <farruinn> Dew_: ok, as long as you have ubuntu's libcurl you should be fine I guess
[06:47] <khj> thx snowblink and farruinn, I was just hanging up my laundry, but it worked! Thanks a bunch!
[06:47] <SeamusLP> kynes:  Which is why I don't like using killall esd as a solution.  You'll either have to change everything over to alsa and not have system sounds, or kill it before you want to run a game and then reload it when you're done
[06:47] <khj> A couple of days ago I lost all sound on my system, can anyone help me?
[06:48] <kynes> Seamus: hmm.. I guess I can put up with it..
[06:48] <Fulg> hey anyone has a clue how to minimize beep media player into the systray ?
[06:48] <A-L-P-H-A> hi, I've got a microsoft wireless optical mouse 2.0a, and it's not working well in ubuntu... are there new drivers for this mouse or something?
[06:48] <kynes> gtg now
[06:49] <SeamusLP> kynes by the way, check out the forums for more tips to get sound working.  There's more information there than I could give you.
[06:49] <kynes> thanks for all the help
[06:49] <kynes> ubuntu-forums.com you mean?
[06:49] <SeamusLP> ubuntuforums.org :)
[06:49] <kynes> okay :)
[06:49] <kynes> bye
[06:49] <queuetue> new pope
[06:49] <cyphase> yea
[06:49] <WebMaven> farruinn, no-one in #ubuntu-motu is responding. At all.
[06:49] <farruinn> A-L-P-H-A: gxmms gives you a panel applet
[06:49] <cyphase> rastinger
[06:49] <qwe> queuetue: really?
[06:50] <queuetue> y.
[06:50] <qwe> that was quick
[06:50] <Dew_> farruinn ^ - ^
[06:50] <NigelS> ratzinger, benedict XVI
[06:50] <Fulg> hey anyone has a clue how to minimize beep media player into the systray ?
[06:50] <A-L-P-H-A> farruinn, that gxmms does?
[06:50] <SeamusLP> khj:  What'd you do to lose sound on your system?
[06:50] <cyphase> it was either him or the nigerian
[06:50] <farruinn> A-L-P-H-A: sorry, that was for fulg
[06:50] <farruinn> Fulg: gxmms gives you a panel applet
[06:50] <A-L-P-H-A> farruinn, k, thought it wasn't for me. :)
[06:50] <Fulg> ok
[06:51] <queuetue> cyphase, I can understand them not picking me, but ... they could have at least let me know in person. :)
[06:51] <qwe> lol
[06:51] <khj> SeamunLP, nothing that I know of... I was ripping my CD's using sound juicer.
[06:51] <cyphase> queuetue: i know, it's a shame. not repect these days
[06:51] <cyphase> no*
[06:52] <cyphase> respect*
[06:52] <cyphase> lol
[06:52] <IceEyz> eh.. another boot-issue-case :) -> Ubuntu boots, XP Pro boots, but it gives the error NTLDR is missing, press any key, and then XP succesfully boots. Is that error removable with a -command or is it XP-specific?
[06:52] <SeamusLP> khj:  Have you tried choosing different output plugins in the various sound apps that you use?
[06:52] <djm62> urbi et orbi...that should be the next release announcement
[06:52] <Juhaz> is there a metapackage for installing gnu development toolchain?
[06:52] <djm62> Juhaz: build-essential I think
[06:53] <farruinn> WebMaven: perhaps none of them maintain it, you could post to the ubuntu-users mailing list
[06:53] <farruinn> WebMaven: this defintely seems like a broken package though
[06:53] <sobersabre> bye alll.
[06:54] <WebMaven> farruinn, I mean, I can't even get anyone to say anything. Not even whether the fact that the package isn't listed is sugnificant. Or 'hello'.
[06:54] <khj> SeamusLP, no but it worked fine before... So I thought everything was fine. That is was a more central error, since there suddently was no sound at all...
[06:55] <SeamusLP> khj:  I think it is wise to try the simplest route first
[06:55] <Juhaz> djm62, looks about right, thanks.
[06:55] <Fulg> farruinn, thats not for beep media player
[06:55] <SeamusLP> khj:  Have you restarted your session any since you lost sound?
[06:55] <farruinn> Fulg: in the description it said it was
[06:55] <dockane> how do i reset the scanner modell xsane has detected ?
[06:56] <khj> SeamusLP, Yes I have.
[06:56] <SeamusLP> Open a console and type lsof /dev/dsp
[06:56] <Fulg> so how do i use it ?
[06:56] <farruinn> Fulg: no clue, I just found it on packages.ubuntu.com
[06:56] <khj> SeamusLP, Yes...?
[06:57] <farruinn> Fulg: the doc should be under /usr/share/doc/gxmms
[06:57] <khj> SeamusLP, then what?
[06:57] <SeamusLP> Does it say esd is using /dev/dsp?
[06:58] <khj> SeamusLP, yes.
[06:58] <dockane> i va got an epson perfection 3200 scanner but xsance detects an epson gt 9800. how do i change this ?
[06:59] <SeamusLP> khj:  Are your audio programs set to run using esd as an output plugin?
[06:59] <djm62> Juhaz: might not be all you need...I find apt-get build-depends foobar as useful shortcut
[06:59] <Mestapheles> hello world
[07:00] <djm62> (replacing foobar with the project you're interested in, or a similar one...you don't want to be finding all the dependencies for firefox manually ;))
[07:00] <SeamusLP> khj:  Like in xmms for example, setting preferences -> eSound as the output
[07:00] <khj> SeamusLP, dunno. Im using Music Player. Don't think I have any options...
[07:00] <SeamusLP> khj:  Yeah in rhythmbox it's not an option in the program.  OK try this.  System -> preferences multimedia systems selector
[07:01] <Mestapheles> how does one start a eth0 after one has booted up without ethernet connected? 'ifconfig eth0 up' and ifconfig eth0 do not work.
[07:01] <djm62> Mestapheles: what sort of connection?
[07:01] <A-L-P-H-A> is there a way I can select the type of mouse I'm using?
[07:01] <Ocid> Mestapheles: try ifup eth0
[07:01] <Mestapheles> I have latptop-net installed and hotplug as well as hotplug-net.  an ethernet connect
[07:01] <nickrud> Mestapheles, try ifup eth0
[07:01] <Mestapheles> # ?
[07:02] <Ocid> yeah, sudo ifup eth0
[07:02] <SeamusLP> khj:  You should get an annoying long beep by clicking on test.  Make sure the volume is set to an audible level and attempt to test each output plugin.
[07:02] <khj> SeamusLP, Can't find it. Im using Warty...
[07:02] <Mestapheles> nickrud: thnks that works.
[07:02] <djm62> Mestapheles: you can do it from gnome: System->Administration->Networking also
[07:03] <Mestapheles> sorry don't have gnome, I did a server upgrade from sid, just xfce4
[07:03] <djm62> Mestapheles: :) nice
[07:03] <SeamusLP> khj:  Humm... OK...  Doesn't hoary use polypaudio?
[07:04] <SeamusLP> warty I mean
[07:04] <Mestapheles> but shouldn't hotplug or hotplug-net, or even laptop-net take care of this?  Is something broken on my system?
[07:04] <Mestapheles> or not setup?
[07:05] <khj> SeamusLP, Don't know. I'm new to this world.
[07:05] <chicken_man> join #apachehelp for help with apache
[07:05] <dockane> habemus papam
[07:05] <atr> hi ... my battery status is unknow... how to fix it?
[07:05] <Bazzi> chicken_man enough!
[07:05] <chicken_man> :|
[07:05] <Mestapheles> Yeah it's a nice setup.  I just figured out how to make the sleep work too.
[07:05] <Mestapheles> on this ibook
[07:05] <nickrud> Mestapheles, I have a hotplug stanza in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:05] <Ocid> Mestapheles: do you have 'auto eth0' on your /etc/network/interfaces?
[07:06] <SeamusLP> khj:  Well I wish I had more experience with warty's sound, but let me see what I can come up with
[07:06] <IceEyz> bootquestion: what else to do in grub for making it boot from a sata ntfs partition? rootnoverify, all hds, all partitions, won't boot. MBR of the HD is fine as it will boot without grub.
[07:06] <Mestapheles> Ocid: yes I have an "auto eth0"
[07:06] <khj> SeamusLP, Sorry for being such a pain in the ..
[07:07] <Mestapheles> Ocid: and below that iface eth0 inet dhcp
[07:07] <CarlK> IceEyz - booting from ntfs... are you sure GRUB (not linux) can do that?
[07:07] <SeamusLP> khj:  It's no big thing.  Are you running totem-gstreamer or totem-xine?
[07:08] <khj> SeamusLP, how do I check?
[07:08] <paulproteus> IceEyz: Don't tell it to boot from the partition.  Tell it to boot from the drive.  Wouldn't that be easier?
[07:08] <IceEyz> CarlK, well with GRub, but selecting wrong HD (linux-one) it will boot, but with NTLDR missing, press any key... When pressing a key, it somehow manages to boot XP flawlessly
[07:08] <SeamusLP> khj:  Run totem from the menu, first of all.  Then do help -> about
[07:08] <IceEyz> so just make it rootnoverify (hd0) ?
[07:08] <nickrud> Mestapheles, try adding mapping hotplug  \n script grep \n map eth0 to interfaces, above eth0, and remove auto
[07:08] <CarlK> IceEyz - ah - thats different ;) - I thought you had a linux kernel on ntfs
[07:08] <Ocid> Mestapheles: hmm, i have mapping hotplug | script grep | map eth0 | iface eth0 inet dhcp
[07:09] <qwe> the torrents seem slow today
[07:09] <IceEyz> hehe idd, forgot to mention XP in the sentence :)
[07:09] <khj> SeamusLP, I checked in Synaptic. I have totem-gstreamer installed...
[07:09] <SeamusLP> khj:  Does sound work in totem?
[07:10] <SeamusLP> try loading totem from the console and playing an ogg or mp3 (if you have the plugin)
[07:11] <khj> SeamusLP, isn't totemonly amovie player?
[07:12] <SeamusLP> Nope, it can play the same files rhythmbox can... they both use the gstreamer backend
[07:12] <IceEyz> ..lets see if it helps...
[07:12] <khj> SeamusLP, No sound at all...
[07:13] <SeamusLP> khj looks like there may have been some very, very strange gstreamer failure
[07:14] <templer> excuse me, how can i know whit what command i can launch a certain program?
[07:14] <Fulg> anyone know what could i use to make my laptop buttons work???(volume-wlan);its a compaq m2000
[07:14] <SeamusLP> running rhythmbox or totem from the console and attempting to play an ogg, is there any error?
[07:14] <Scognito> is there a new "unstable" version of ubuntu?
[07:14] <SeamusLP> the error should be output directly to the console
[07:16] <khj> SeamusLP, ok...
[07:16] <seeker> how can I run a script that needs root privliges during boot up?
[07:16] <khj> SeamusLP, How do I do that? I Tried with "totem songfilename.ogg"
[07:17] <SeamusLP> yes that should work
[07:17] <templer> excuse me, how can i know whit what command i can launch a certain program?
[07:17] <camcorder> seeker: put it into /etc/init.d/rcS
[07:17] <camcorder> templer?
[07:17] <SeamusLP> I'd just run the command totem and then go to file-open, it should send error output to the console
[07:17] <deadinplastic> viva il papa! does everyone get a round of free beer afterwards?
[07:17] <templer> because it doesn't always work with the name that there was in synaptic
[07:17] <|iggy|> hy i need help for installing my rage mobility http://sial.org/pbot/9490
[07:18] <khj> SeamusLP, It said "*** attempt to put segment in horiz list twice" four times and didn't load the song...
[07:18] <camcorder> who's the new papa? he's not gay isn't it?
[07:18] <seeker> ok thanks. I'll try that.
[07:18] <SeamusLP> khj:  Whaaa?
[07:18] <\sh> camcorder: it's a german, conservative priest, called Ratzinger
[07:18] <WebMaven> camcorder, it's ratzinger.
[07:18] <SeamusLP> khj:  Try rhythmbox, maybe?
[07:18] <qwe> SeamusLP: that just looks like GTK warnings
[07:18] <\sh> camcorder: so to say, a second dictator in italy now ;)
[07:19] <camcorder> ah, that guy .. say bye to gay bishops then :P
[07:19] <SeamusLP> qwe:  You think so?
[07:19] <qwe> SeamusLP: yeah, from all appearances
[07:19] <qwe> I could be wrong, naturally
[07:19] <WebMaven> camcorder, and preists in SA getting married, and any discussion of birth-control for teens, etc.
[07:19] <kahuna_> Hopefully this pope will actually encourage pressing criminal charges on sexually abusive preists
[07:20] <thr1ce> any way to turn on anti-aliasing for fonts in gnome ?
[07:20] <SeamusLP> qwe:  That'd make it interesting if it happened the instance khj tried to play a file
[07:20] <khj> SeamusLP, With rhythmbox there's no errors. Just no sound...
[07:20] <camcorder>  webmaven: actually i share same opinons about that birth control crap
[07:20] <SeamusLP> khj:  Does it act like it's playing?
[07:20] <SeamusLP> in the software, I mean
[07:21] <camcorder> webmaven: ppl start not to consider sex as an entertainment
[07:21] <erkatta> Somebody can help me?
[07:21] <n3x> i need to install a server (web + mail) , would you recommend Ubuntu or should I stick to Debian ? (I've been using Hoary for only a week now on my laptop)...
[07:22] <camcorder> webmaven: but unfotunately I don't think any papa or any church would change that opinon.
[07:22] <khj> SeamusLP, yeah if I press play it plays, just no sound...
[07:22] <Dew_> erkatta what is tour problem
[07:22] <kahuna_> erkatta, Depends on what you need help with. No, we won't buy you groceries.
[07:22] <qwe> n3x: I'd use debian for that
[07:22] <erkatta> I've some trouble with my Ubuntu installation
[07:22] <qwe> n3x: ubuntu is more of a desktop distro
[07:22] <kahuna_> Ok. That's really specific
[07:22] <A-L-P-H-A> how do I change mouse hardware settings?  The current setting is messed up.
[07:22] <SeamusLP> khj:  Do you have more than one sound card?
[07:22] <camcorder> n3x: what do you want to change distro for that?
[07:22] <qwe> erkatta: could you be a little more vague? egads
[07:22] <erkatta> :)
[07:23] <IIIEars> honestly - I would use a live CD/DVD with any files rolled served rolled into the iso
[07:23] <khj> SeamusLP, no.
[07:23] <khj> SeamusLP, its a laptop.
[07:23] <n3x> that was my impression.. ubuntu @ desktops... thanks
[07:23] <deadinplastic> camcorder:Cardinal Ratzinger
[07:24] <SeamusLP> khj okay, in a console, type alsamixer
[07:24] <] BreliC[> has anyone successfully installed Myth Tv?
[07:24] <erkatta> I installed this distro but during the installation process nobody ask me to enter the root's password but only to create a new Usere account and now I cant access to my system as root!!!
[07:24] <IIIEars> An Ubuntu iso image would be unbeatable and unhackable
[07:24] <qwe> erkatta: sudo passwd root
[07:24] <SeamusLP> khj:  See if the master or PCM is set ot off
[07:24] <khj> SeamusLP, yes.
[07:25] <khj> SeamusLP, It's way up there...
[07:25] <seeker> erkatta - you can always just use sudo
[07:25] <SeamusLP> khj:  Alright so everything is unmuted
[07:25] <Ocid> erkatta: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root
[07:25] <seeker> the root has been disables on ubuntu on purpose
[07:25] <Dew_> erkatta It is normally of ubuntu
[07:26] <erkatta> thanx to all
[07:26] <khj> SeamusLP, Not the mic or mic boos they're muted.
[07:26] <IIIEars> and the root console/xsession times out after fifiteen mins to add security
[07:26] <erkatta> It the firs time that I install Ubuntu ;-)
[07:26] <IIIEars> erkatta - did it go smoothly?
[07:26] <seeker> does ubuntu have something like v. studio? a complete programing suit?
[07:27] <IIIEars> <<3rd day using Ubuntu
[07:27] <SeamusLP> khj: Should be fine.  By the way, how old is the laptop?  I mean if you didn't change any settings at all, and it just stopped working one day that could be an indication something is dead, or at least loose.
[07:27] <seeker> using gcc etc. is kind of limmiting....
[07:27] <guruff> seeker; what do you want to program in ? for c, c++ you have anjuta or kdevelop
[07:27] <broberts> Eclipse is an aweome free java IDE
[07:27] <nicedreams> I just installed a 2nd cdrom drive that is a DVD drive.  How do I add it to Ubuntu or what do I have to put in the fstab?
[07:27] <Markrian> seeker, check out monodevelop
[07:27] <mipfi_> how can i make an .sfv file for an mp3 with ubuntu ?
[07:27] <chicken_man> seeker , g++
[07:27] <Markrian> seeker, or glade
[07:27] <xcoyote> what special features has ubuntu?
[07:27] <IIIEars> seeker - you will need to synaptic/or apt-get those tools
[07:28] <seeker> I just need c,c++ but I also need powerful debugging tools
[07:28] <khj> SeamusLP, Pretty new. It's about 8 months old. So I hope not... ;)
[07:28] <rt> mmm.  gdb.
[07:28] <chicken_man> seeker , sudo apt-get install g++
[07:28] <erkatta> IIIEars yes
[07:28] <SeamusLP> khj:  Okay, I want to try one more thing
[07:28] <resiak> mipfi_: WTF is a .sfv?
[07:28] <seeker> g++ is just a compiler isn't it? I need a whole graphical suit
[07:29] <SeamusLP> khj:  Install xmms from synaptic or do sudo apt-get install xmms
[07:29] <khj> SeamusLP, I'm with yuo!
[07:29] <chicken_man> seeker , ahh right
[07:29] <xcoyote> what is the main special feature from ubuntu?
[07:29] <mipfi_> .sfv is a checksum file
[07:29] <chicken_man> xcoyote, easy to use \ install
[07:29] <IIIEars> seeker - they are certainly available using apt-get but likely hte Ubuntu devlopers have added a version to synaptic for Ubuntu that will insure a solid flawless install
[07:29] <jk> xcoyote: it gets you sex appeal with the ladies
[07:29] <khj> SeamusLP, I have xmms already...
[07:30] <IceEyz> khj, dont know if youve checked it yet, maybe the laptop has a digital-out as well, check for the Analog/Digital switch in Alsamixer and see if that one helps
[07:30] <guruff> xcoyote; nice babes from   ubuntu-calendar package   ????
[07:30] <Markrian> mipfi_, sudo apt-get install cksfv
[07:30] <Foodcoman> .sfv is a CRC file
[07:30] <SeamusLP> khj:  load it up and go to preferences
[07:30] <Foodcoman> Sorry mipfi I missed yours.
[07:30] <xcoyote> mmmmmmmmmm, what about updating software?
[07:30] <khj> SeamusLP, i'm there...
[07:30] <guruff> xcoyote; doesn't get smother/easier than ubuntu
[07:31] <gr8nash> did anyone find a link to howto update a live cd with automatic printer setup?  or is this possible?
[07:31] <IIIEars> you can use either Synaptic or apt-get to upgrade
[07:31] <SeamusLP> whats the output plugin set to?
[07:31] <chicken_man> xcoyote, yes ubuntu ubuntu ubuntu
[07:31] <xcoyote> mmmmmmmm
[07:31] <Markrian> http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/
[07:31] <IIIEars> lol@Markrian
[07:31] <guruff> IIIEars; or ubuntu update manager, or now you have just like in windows add/remove programs stuff
[07:31] <mipfi_> Markrian: with cksfv i can create .sfv files ?
[07:31] <Markrian> mipfi_, yes.
[07:32] <gr8nash> Markrian,  thanks.. ;)
[07:32] <Markrian> mipfi_, apt-cache show cksfv
[07:32] <gr8nash> your link is dead =)
[07:32] <IIIEars> it is very nice
[07:32] <synd> anyone help me set up my ndiswrapper-utils for my dlink wireless card? I cannot find the HOWTO online.
[07:32] <khj> SeamusLP, OSS driver
[07:32] <Markrian> gr8nash, justfuckinggoogleit.com works for me
[07:32] <gr8nash> lol
[07:33] <xcoyote> another question, why should i have to use ubuntu instead another distribution?
[07:33] <qwe> xcoyote: just because
[07:33] <Markrian> xcoyote, it's a choice you have
[07:33] <lifetech> ubuntu is easy
[07:33] <lifetech> and apt-get rules :D
[07:33] <chicken_man> xcoyote, because ubuntu is sooo damn good
[07:33] <SeamusLP> khj:  Is it possible to click on it and change to alsa or esound?  If you can choose eSound try doing that and playing a song
[07:33] <Amaranth> hey, does anyone wanna tryout my version of the official bittorrent client?
[07:33] <IIIEars> xcoyote - for me it was the way Ubuntu recognized -all- of my hardware during the install
[07:33] <Amaranth> it's the same thing, just with a tray icon
[07:33] <xcoyote> what makes ubuntu so damn good?
[07:34] <chicken_man> ooooooooo
[07:34] <mipfi_> Markrian: i can't create a cksfv file how can i make it ?
[07:34] <mipfi_> Markrian: .sfv file :)
[07:34] <khj> SeamusLP, yes
[07:34] <Levander> If I upgrade to hoary from warty, is it going to upgrade my kernel? Am worried because I'm about to run out of room on the partition the kernel is in, in /boot.
[07:34] <Fulg> ubuntu rules,no question about it
[07:34] <xcoyote> what about recognizing laptops hardware?
[07:34] <chicken_man> xcoyote, Easy to use simple easy to install plenty of help just GET it before i whip your ass
[07:34] <Amaranth> http://dev.realistanew.com/bittorrent_4.0.1ubuntu1_all.deb and you need python-gnome2-extras from universe
[07:34] <] BreliC[> xcoyote, recognizes all mine
[07:34] <qwe> xcoyote: just try it. if you like it, use it, if not, don't
[07:35] <] BreliC[> Amaranth, is that for the gnome-btdownload client?
[07:35] <xcoyote> i know that's the rigth answer
[07:35] <IIIEars> The Live CD was a nice introduction.
[07:35] <Ocid> xcoyote: detected all in this ibm thinkpad
[07:35] <Markrian> xcoyote, download the LiveCD for Ubuntu 5.04. It won't touch your hard drive and will act (mostly) exactly like a fully installed version would
[07:35] <Amaranth> ] BreliC[: It's the offical BitTorrent 4.0.1 client with a tray icon so you can hide it.
[07:35] <xcoyote> i am using a toshiba
[07:35] <seeker> My system has two sound cards, how can I pick one as default? most programs currently go for the unpluged sound card
[07:35] <] BreliC[> Amaranth, ahh nice.. i'll check it out
[07:35] <Amaranth> ] BreliC[: The official one is much better than gnome-btdownload
[07:35] <no0tic> no more updates since hoary released, it's normal?
[07:35] <thr1ce> breezy is niiiiice
[07:35] <lifetech> xcoyote it'll prollu detect everything
[07:35] <scott> how do I change the language for the system (or my user)?
[07:35] <lifetech> prolly*
[07:35] <kelbin> i've download this version of ubuntu - (ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso - 06-Apr-2005 22:31 587M) but i cant seem to select proxy for apt-get update during installation. i tried to search the forums but they were saying to download a array version 7 or something? my setup is stuck at the "Testing network repository" ... any ideas on which version or from where i should download ubuntu from?
[07:36] <Amaranth> no0tic: Yes, hoary is stable. Stable means it doesn't change.
[07:36] <Markrian> no0tic, yes, 'released' means that it's frozen, apart for security updates
[07:36] <templer> excuse me, how can i know with what command i can launch a certain program?
[07:36] <templer> excuse me, how can i know with what command i can launch a certain program?
[07:36] <khj> SeamusLP, It won't play at all with alsa selected but it plays with esound. But still no sound...
[07:36] <templer> excuse me, how can i know with what command i can launch a certain program?
[07:36] <templer> excuse me..
[07:36] <Markrian> TEMPLER
[07:36] <templer> because it doesn't always work with the name that there was in synaptic
[07:36] <lifetech> templer: alt + f2 <name of program>
[07:36] <xcoyote> i am worry about updating software, i do not know if it easy to update or it is difficult
[07:36] <SeamusLP> khj:  Go to a console and type killall esd.  Then try playing it with alsa.
[07:36] <Markrian> Don't repeat yourself!
[07:36] <Amaranth> templer: Example?
[07:36] <no0tic> Markrian: No security updates? Firefox & OO.o released security patches in these days
[07:37] <no0tic> Markrian: I know release is frozen
[07:37] <Amaranth> no0tic: Then I'm sure they'll be working on backporting the fixes after their short break.
[07:37] <Markrian> no0tic, no, I mean that security updates DO get in, but nothing else does
[07:37] <templer> mldonkey-guy
[07:37] <chicken_man> xcoyote, very easy to update
[07:37] <zhukov_> Hello
[07:37] <IIIEars> no)tic - There will as i understand it be additional security upgrades.
[07:37] <A-L-P-H-A> what's the wizzard to run for Xorg?
[07:37] <nickrud> seeker, add the module you dont
[07:37] <Amaranth> no0tic: They'll never have something called Firefox 1.0.3 in hoary, but they might have their version with security fixes.
[07:37] <zhukov_> Need help please...i cant install mplayer! :S
[07:37] <no0tic> Markrian: ok, thanks, I was wondering if I had any problem in my repositories
[07:37] <nickrud> want to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[07:38] <no0tic> Amaranth: ok
[07:38] <khj> SeamusLP, Now it plays the file with alsa, but still no sound...
[07:38] <IIIEars> The Developers are preparing for the next Selinux vers.
[07:38] <Markrian> no0tic, you might want to enable the hoary-updates branch in your repositories list
[07:38] <Ocid> A-L-P-H-A: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:38] <templer> Amaranth: mldonkey-guy
[07:38] <seeker> err, module I don't want? what does that mean?
[07:38] <Levander> Once I've installed a new kernel, how do I remove the old kernel package?
[07:38] <Amaranth> IIIEars: Err, where did you hear that? Ubuntu Hardended is a seperate thing.
[07:38] <Amaranth> templer: ok, let me see
[07:38] <templer> thx
[07:39] <flipy> is there any program to mount an iso file under gnome?
[07:39] <xcoyote> chiken_man:   sorry i am asking to much, but how does ubuntu makes easy to update software. it has a special tool for it a command line interface. how is it?
[07:39] <SeamusLP> khj:  Man I'm stumped.  After all that the only thing I can think of now is a driver issue, or a hardware issue
[07:39] <nickrud> seeker, there's a software module for each of your sound cards
[07:39] <seeker> flipy I think mount does that
[07:39] <IIIEars> ah - (sheepish grin) - I could easily be mistaken.
[07:39] <nickrud> you want to disable one of them
[07:39] <Amaranth> templer: I don't even have that package available. You must be using extra repositories.
[07:39] <elektrolyytti> hmm i have 700 mb iso image and i want to burn it on 650 mb cd, is there any tool i can edit the files and remove everything i dont need and burn without losing the boot of the cd?
[07:39] <chicken_man> xcoyote, synaptic package manger and apt-get
[07:39] <Markrian> flipy, no need to mount it - file-roller can open .iso images
[07:40] <Anubis> flipy, yes, many I can't think of one , mount maybe?
[07:40] <khj> SeamusLP, I installed KDE a while ago and uninstalled it again. Could it have happened then?
[07:40] <mipfi_> i can't create a .sfv file how can i make it ?
[07:40] <SeamusLP> khj:  No that couldn't have caused the problem
[07:40] <Markrian> elektrolyytti, that's far more difficult than just getting a 700MB CD, I'm sure
[07:40] <resiak> mipfi_: WTF is an .sfv file?
[07:40] <Ocid> flipy: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountisofilewithoutburning
[07:40] <nickrud> seeker, if you do lsmod | grep snd you might recognize it
[07:40] <flipy> but is there something easiest to do? I'd like daemon-tools under windows... so I'll like to have something similar, if it exists
[07:40] <] BreliC[> flipy, I typed in 'linux iso mount' in google, and it was the first hit  http://www.linuxhelp.net/isos/
[07:40] <Markrian> mipfi_, man cksfv
[07:40] <flipy> ok thanks dudes
[07:40] <flipy> can't live with that channel :P
[07:41] <Ocid> ;)
[07:41] <Markrian> Once again... http://justfuckinggoogleit.com
[07:41] <] BreliC[> flipy, well, google helps too
[07:41] <khj> SeamusLP, Ok, thanks for all the help anyway. I learn a lot about my system this way. :D
[07:41] <elektrolyytti> Markrian: hmm.. ok.. ill then extract the files and use without boot :S
[07:41] <gr8nash> Markrian,  you relize that there isnt a pile of info on google for taht
[07:41] <flipy> ok, I'll do it
[07:41] <gr8nash> to answer his question you need to edit the ISO directly
[07:41] <SeamusLP> khj:  Yeah it's good to learn about this type of stuff.  If I were in your situation now I would try a hoary livecd and see if sound works
[07:42] <gr8nash> remaster knoppix is what comes up 90% of it
[07:42] <Markrian> gr8nash, I wasn't referring to the iso dilemma, but even then...
[07:42] <] BreliC[> any canadians here?
[07:42] <danwolf> Ocid: you around?
[07:42] <Ocid> danwolf: yep
[07:42] <templer> Amaranth:does it change something?
[07:42] <gr8nash> "Currently you need to do this by modifying the CD image, but we are working
[07:42] <] BreliC[> i've searched for canadian LUGs but most sites are either defunct or reporting bad links to local LUGs... has linux left Canada??
[07:42] <gr8nash> on some tools to automate the process of creating such a CD"
[07:43] <danwolf> Ocid: I opened my computer with it running and notices that the fan on my vid card wasn't running
[07:43] <mipfi_> markrian: i don't know ;( how it works ;(
[07:43] <synd> how do i have ndiswrapper load up during boot?
[07:43] <Amaranth> templer: It means I can't help you because I have no idea what that repository is or how they do things.
[07:43] <Ocid> danwolf: yep, the prob sounded like overheating
[07:43] <danwolf> Ocid: I gave it a little tap and it started running, but it sounds a little funny
[07:43] <Ocid> buy a new fan
[07:43] <danwolf> Ocid: maybe it was just stuck
[07:43] <danwolf> Ocid: can you buy just a fan for the vid card?
[07:43] <Ocid> if it sounds funny then you should buy a new one
[07:43] <nicedreams> anyone tried getting a keyspan remote working in Ubuntu?
[07:43] <xcoyote> ubuntu dist has been compiled already or do you have to configure your own kernel?
[07:44] <Ocid> danwolf: sure there are some fans also for gfx cards
[07:44] <danwolf> hmm
[07:44] <thr1ce> hm...anyone running breezy ?
[07:44] <Ocid>  ask them for your local dealers
[07:44] <\sh> thr1ce: in a chroot
[07:45] <thread> .wn
[07:45] <thread> oops
[07:45] <danwolf> Ocid: I will just see if maybe the fan was stuck
[07:45] <thr1ce> \sh, why not on your machine ?
[07:45] <danwolf> Ocid: I would rather wait on it heh
[07:45] <\sh> thr1ce: it's not ready to run productive on my laptop :)
[07:45] <danwolf> Ocid: I am broke right now
[07:45] <Ocid> danwolf: but if it sounds funnym then it will stuck again very soon
[07:45] <thr1ce> runs fine here
[07:45] <danwolf> Ocid: NOW!! If I can get my optical drives working
[07:46] <Ocid> danwolf: you should be able to get new one for less than 20EUR
[07:46] <danwolf> Ocid: you dont think that would have incorporated into my HAL problem would ya?
[07:46] <danwolf> well, I will look around
[07:46] <Ocid> what prob is that?
[07:46] <danwolf> I live in USA
[07:46] <danwolf> so its dollars
[07:46] <danwolf> heh
[07:46] <Ocid> ok, less than USD25 then ;)
[07:46] <danwolf> Ocid: when I log into gnome occasionally I will get a failed to initialize hal error
[07:47] <templer> does anyone know how can i find the launch name of a program that i have downloaded from extra repositories?
[07:47] <danwolf> Ocid: It hands the gnome login, but I can get gnome up if I kill dbus-daemon-1
[07:47] <danwolf> Ocid: I removed my optical drives, and I no longer get the error
[07:47] <Ocid> danwolf: don't have any clue about that, sry
[07:47] <danwolf> I think it is just my DVD too
[07:47] <danwolf> Ocid: its cool
[07:48] <thr1ce> how can I clear my cached stuff from apt ?
[07:48] <Ocid> but now it's time for a smoke, brb
[07:48] <danwolf> I will plug them back in now that I realize my fan was shot, and see if maybe it was bleeding over to that somehow
[07:48] <resiak> thr1ce: apt-get clean
[07:48] <danwolf> I doubt it though seriously
[07:49] <thr1ce> what's purge used for then ?
[07:50] <chpts> Hi I'm very interested in moving from RH9 to ubuntu, also I'm kinda of a newbie so I would like to know a few tips for moving on
[07:50] <Foodcoman> chpts: http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[07:50] <chpts> thyanks
[07:51] <Foodcoman> chpts: Lots of tips.
[07:51] <Amaranth> ] BreliC[: did you try it?
[07:52] <Dew_> http://www.ubuntuguide.org is very good site
[07:52] <A-L-P-H-A> anyoen running a wireless optical mouse from microsoft on ubutu?  I can't get the buttons (the normal buttons) to work properly.
[07:53] <IIIEars> 500+ people in the room. - There must be something to this Ubuntu thing. - eh?  (grin)
[07:53] <chpts> yup, the fact that got me Is the minimal installation
[07:53] <mdke> has anyone used mondarchive on Ubuntu Hoary? I'm interested in any reliability reports
[07:53] <chpts> just one disk is pretty impressive
[07:53] <Amaranth> IIIEars: Nah, 520 of them are bots I dropped here so it'd look big. ;)
[07:54] <Amaranth> IIIEars: For instance, crimsun and alindeman.
[07:54] <trentone> hmmm, finally got up and running, anyone have a clue about sound workings in ubuntu?
[07:54] <trentone> modules loaded, but no sound. . . nothing at all
[07:54] <nickrud> seeker: sorry :) I haven't done any programming needing a debugger for about 20 years.
[07:54] <IIIEars> lol - even i know crimsun is a bot - lol
[07:54] <seeker> trenttone I had the same problem
[07:54] <seeker> check to see which sound card is selected
[07:54] <trentone> seeker: how did you go about fixing it
[07:55] <trentone> only one card in machine, and its the correct modules for the card
[07:55] <IIIEars> a nice guy - very grateful to him/her
[07:55] <seeker> click on the mic icon on the upper corner
[07:55] <seeker> and go to prefrences
[07:55] <Ocid> danwolf: http://www.compusa.com/products/products.asp?N=200369+4294966596&Ne=303148
[07:55] <seeker> try changing the options there
[07:56] <trentone> wait, i think i know what the problem is, now to figure out how to turn that off
[07:56] <trentone> its a "digital/analog" card, i have analog speakers. . .
[07:57] <dbrodie> I have a quick question I am hoping someone can answer. Will ubuntu be updating to the 1.0.3 firefox with the security fixes?
[07:58] <trentone> any clue how to do that seeker?
[07:58] <Ocid> trentone: disable IEC-928 or something
[07:59] <trentone> Ocid: where would i find that to turn it off, if you dont mind me sounding like an idiot
[07:59] <markuman> how can i link my mounted fat32 disk from /mnt on desktop?
[08:00] <nickrud> markuman, if it's mounted on /mnt, open nautilus to / and right-drag mnt to your desktop, and say make a link
[08:00] <mdke> has anyone used mondarchive on Ubuntu Hoary? I'm interested in any reliability reports
[08:01] <dbrodie> markuman: open up the computer icon and just drag the icon to the desktop
[08:01] <nickrud> I like dbrodies better :)
[08:02] <Ocid> trentone: only way i know is thru kmix
[08:02] <dbrodie> also, anybody know if ubuntu is going to update hoary to gnome 2.10.1?
[08:03] <Ocid> trentone: and it's IEC958 output
[08:03] <Seveas> dbrodie, only if it is a security update
[08:04] <nickrud> trentone, you can find it in alsamixer
[08:04] <darkaudit> dbrodie: I certainly hope so... there's a huge bug with file-roller and others that's just been fixed...
[08:04] <dbrodie> Seveas: Ah ok, thanks. Do you also know about firefox 1.0.3?
[08:04] <Seveas> same thing
[08:05] <Fulg> ubuntu uses grub;but where`s grub.conf ?
[08:05] <darkaudit> Seveas: so a functionality bug that's not security-related may be ignored?
[08:05] <micsch> moin
[08:05] <Seveas> darkaudit, indeed
[08:05] <trentone> ok, got it working
[08:05] <trentone> just had to figure out how to turn digital out off
[08:05] <dbrodie> Seveas: I mean firefox 1.0.3 with some serious security fixes has been released and its not in ubuntu yet
[08:05] <Dew_> Fulg maybe it use menu.lst
[08:06] <dbrodie> Fulg: yup its menu.lst
[08:06] <darkaudit> so broke will stay broke? :(
[08:06] <Seveas> dbrodie, when has it been released?
[08:06] <Seveas> darkaudit, if it is a serious bug, it might get updated
[08:06] <Seveas> but functionality bugs usually do not qualify...
[08:06] <Fulg> i have to edit it or is there any thing that autoconfigures it ?
[08:07] <Seveas> Fulg, it will be autoconfigured after every kernel install
[08:07] <Seveas> all kernels installed by apt-get will be in there
[08:07] <darkaudit> Seveas: it's marked as pending upload in bugzilla... big bug with choosing folders in file-roller and others... it's actually a gtk bug
[08:07] <Fulg> but i`ve compiled a kernel without apt-get
[08:08] <Fulg> how do in do the grub`thing?
[08:08] <Seveas> darkaudit, in Ubuntu bugzilla? If that is so, it will be updated
[08:08] <darkaudit> Fulg: but did you install with dpkg -i?
[08:08] <Fulg> nope
[08:08] <darkaudit> Seveas: in Ubuntu bugzilla :)
[08:08] <dbrodie> Seveas: I believe it was sometime last week.
[08:08] <Seveas> darkaudit, then just wait :)
[08:08] <Fulg> make;make modules;make modules_install;make install
[08:08] <dbrodie> darkaudit: I do hope they fix that bug it is very annoying, do you have a bugzilla number?
[08:08] <Amaranth> dbrodie: Firefox is a hard one to patch and some of the devs are on a mini-vacation so it'll be a little while.
[08:08] <Seveas> dbrodie, is it in bugzilla laready? if not -> file a bug if it is truly a security update
[08:09] <darkaudit> db... yep... I filed it :)
[08:09] <Amaranth> bug #?
[08:09] <Amaranth> if it's what i think it is i'd be happy to see it fixed
[08:09] <dbrodie> darkaudit: yeah, id like to look at it in bugzilla as well
[08:09] <darkaudit> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6615
[08:09] <Fulg> so ?
[08:09] <Dew_> Fulg you can copy old config
[08:09] <Fulg> how do i install it ?
[08:10] <Amaranth> darkaudit: Yep, that's the one.
[08:10] <dbrodie> Fulg: you gonna probbaly have to add it yourself.
[08:10] <nickrud> Fulg, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:10] <Amaranth> darkaudit: It's a PITA. :)
[08:10] <darkaudit> Amaranth: pos up in sound-juicer too...
[08:10] <Dew_> Fulg /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10-5-386 root=/dev/hda5 vga=791 ro quiet splash << like this
[08:11] <dbrodie> darkaudit: thanks, I bookmarked it :P
[08:11] <Fulg> i got vmlinuz-<IP_ADDRESS>
[08:12] <Fulg> but
[08:12] <dbrodie> Amaranth: thanks, looking foreward for the nwe firefox. Its just that the security problems are VERY serious
[08:12] <Fulg> i dont have initrd for this one
[08:12] <nickrud> Fulg, then don't put it in :)
[08:12] <Fulg> it will work without it ?
[08:13] <nickrud> Fulg, as long as the modules for your motherboard and disks are compiled into the kernel, not modules
[08:13] <] BreliC[> dbrodie, could you not just install the new firefox yourself?  over the old one in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox ?
[08:14] <] BreliC[> essentially, that's what it does anyway, just replaces files
[08:15] <dbrodie> ] BreliC[: Well, first, whats the point of having all of apt etc... if I am not going to use it? ;) second, its not for me, I use epiphany  and the vulnerability is greatly reduced there (no chrome) if at all, its for a friend of mine using ubuntu
[08:16] <] BreliC[> dbrodie, true, but he needs it that badly, it's just as easy to install it yourself... apt-get can't do everything ;)
[08:16] <Jeezis> i mounted my ntfs partition in ubuntu sucessfully, but now when i try to access a folder called 'my downloads' it only reads the folder name as 'my'
[08:16] <Jeezis> so i cant get into it
[08:16] <dbrodie> ] BreliC[: Some will disagree ;) but thanks for the suggestions, I'll pass it on.
[08:17] <] BreliC[> dbrodie, i *could* use apt-get to install mplayer, but it doesn't do a good job (at least not for my tastes) so i still prefer to compile that one from source
[08:17] <Jeezis> is there a way to get ubuntu to access folders with spaces in the name?
[08:17] <holysmokes> Jeezis, what was your mount command?
[08:17] <] BreliC[> Jeezis, i think the escape character is \
[08:18] <Jeezis> 'sudo mount /dev/sda1'
[08:18] <Jeezis> escape character?
[08:18] <] BreliC[> from the command line, if you're trying to access a folder with a space in the name, you use \ to escape it, or wrap the whole path with "
[08:18] <dbrodie> Jeezis: type mount on the console and just paste here the line with /dev/sda1 in it
[08:18] <] BreliC[> so "Path to my folder"
[08:19] <Fulg> so i made it
[08:19] <Fulg> but it comes with an error
[08:19] <Jeezis> dbrodie: nevermind, i got it to work
[08:19] <Jeezis> thanks for the help though
[08:19] <stelt> is firefox default browser on ubuntu?
[08:19] <CarlK> or mount \path<tab> andlet bash do it
[08:20] <UbuntU> UBUNTU IZ THE BEST
[08:20] <Fulg> Kernel panic - not syncing:VFS:unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0).
[08:20] <seeker> I have a genius usb webcam. gnome meeting doesn't recognize it. how can this be fixed?
[08:20] <holysmokes> ubuntu would be completely awesome if i could make the internet install work like debian's
[08:20] <] BreliC[> seeker, did you search the web for linux and that camera model?
[08:21] <holycow> holysmokes, what do you mean, it IS debians d-i? it's exactly the same no?
[08:21] <seeker> no0tic, I checked the manufacturer site
[08:22] <holysmokes> holycow, one would assume so, but i'm experiencing different results... keeps telling me that "no valid mirror was configured" when i get to installing the base system
[08:22] <] BreliC[> seeker, what's the model number?
[08:22] <Fulg> Kernel panic - not syncing:VFS:unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0).
[08:22] <Fulg> what sould i do ?
[08:22] <Fulg> help!
[08:22] <holycow> holysmokes, did you make sure you set your ip manually? your dhcp server is not working and so it can't config a repository?
[08:22] <nickrud> Fulg, I'm not a grub expert, but what do you have listed as root?  (mine is hd1,1)
[08:22] <seeker> videocam web
[08:23] <CarlK> holycow - it isn't exactly the same
[08:23] <Fulg> (hd0,1)
[08:23] <holysmokes> holycow, i suppose it could be timing out or something along those lines, although it's definitely working for the rest of the network
[08:23] <Fulg> like the other kernel that works
[08:23] <seeker> i did try to follow this guide : http://www.linux.com/howtos/Webcam-HOWTO/hardware.shtml
[08:23] <CarlK> holysmokes - hit Alt-F4 (or 3?) and you should see the wget command it is trying to do
[08:23] <nickrud> and root=/dev/hda1 after the kernel name?
[08:23] <seeker> but I lost it pretty soon
[08:24] <] BreliC[> seeker, looks like you'll need this driver http://zc0302.sourceforge.net/zc0302.php?page=cams
[08:24] <CarlK> er
[08:24] <cyphase> hey everyone, i have a question. this game is telling me to "Press Any Key", but i can't find it anywhere
[08:24] <cyphase> ;)
[08:24] <bit0> i'm looking for a fast ubuntu fast mirror, any help please?
[08:24] <CarlK> holycow smokes, smoked pork.. whatever - hit Alt-F4 (or 3?) and you should see the wget command it is trying to do
[08:24] <CarlK> bit0 - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LocalNetInstall ;)
[08:25] <March-RX8> helo
[08:25] <] BreliC[> seeker, or this one
[08:25] <] BreliC[> http://alpha.dyndns.org/ov511/
[08:25] <holysmokes> carlk - yeah, it doesn't even make an attempt most of the time.. i got it to work once by yanking the cd at a certain point in the install, but i can't get it to work again
[08:25] <nickrud> Fulg, typo:  root=/dev/hda2 after the kernel name
[08:26] <holysmokes> carlk, maybe i should elaborate.. i have an older thinkpad that i'm trying to install hoary on.. it has a built-in cd-rom, but it's dodgy and while i can boot from the cd i can't do the entire install from disc because it bombs out trying to unpack libc6
[08:27] <slappy16> thats typically the second disk
[08:27] <bit0> CarlK, i only wish to download ubuntu-live-cd iso....
[08:27] <slappy16> whoops..i need to scroll
[08:27] <CarlK> holysmokes - then you really need http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LocalNetInstall
[08:27] <seeker> hmm I don't think thats the correct model - I have a videocam web, not express
[08:29] <holysmokes> carlk, i've read that document, but i don't need to netboot the machine.. the cd boots it just fine and i've been able to complete the install over the net once, but most of the time it simply cries about the cd once i get to installing the base
[08:29] <] BreliC[> i think the first site i sent you has the correct model
[08:29] <Fulg> title           Ubuntu, kernel <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:29] <Fulg> root            (hd0,1)
[08:29] <Fulg> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-<IP_ADDRESS> root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash
[08:29] <Fulg> savedefault
[08:29] <Fulg> boot
[08:29] <Fulg> right ?
[08:29] <March-RX8> could someone help me in changing boot sequence?
[08:29] <CarlK> holysmokes - if it is crying about the CD, then use an install that doesn't need the CD ;)
[08:29] <Fulg> this gives me : Kernel panic - not syncing:VFS:unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0).
[08:29] <hmmm22> hallo zusammen
[08:30] <zero[] > hey, i just installed open office 1.9, and it doens't have the dictionary files for spell checking. anybody know where i can get them?
[08:30] <digitalwoot> hello all
[08:30] <holysmokes> carlk, well, i don't have the resources here to bother with floppies for one thing, but it seems like this should be trivial as it is in debian
[08:30] <CarlK> holysmokes - I stopped burning cd's about 2 months ago
[08:30] <nickrud> Fulg, that's what I'd write
[08:30] <hmmm22> does somebody know a better opensource webShop than OSCommerce
[08:30] <CarlK> holysmokes - box doesn't have a "boot from net" option?
[08:30] <Fulg> so where could be the problem ..
[08:31] <holysmokes> carlk, it does, but it's an old ibm bios that will only speak token-ring ;)
[08:31] <Fulg> maybe the kernel config .
[08:31] <Fulg> hmm
[08:31] <nickrud> but I also spent about 2 hours getting sid, warty & hoary booting
[08:31] <Fulg> strange
[08:31] <nickrud> kernel is most likely
[08:31] <CarlK> holysmokes - wow!
[08:31] <digitalwoot> should I be using 32-bit instead of 64 for the reason that I have an ati card
[08:31] <digitalwoot> I cannot get 3d acceleration working for the life of me.. :-\
[08:32] <nickrud> lilo is king
[08:32] <nickrud> cause I know it :)
[08:32] <slappy16> grub rules all!
[08:32] <slappy16> because i dont have to run it
[08:32] <slappy16> :)
[08:32] <Rydekull> umm, no?
[08:32] <March-RX8> how can i configure grub?
[08:32] <slappy16> 'e'
[08:32] <Rydekull> apt-get install lilo :)
[08:32] <slappy16> on the grub page, 'e'
[08:33] <CarlK> holysmokes - well, the Ehthernet net boot floppy is pretty easy, and that won't change so once you make it it may be the last boot flop you need for that box (nic really)
[08:33] <digitalwoot> any one in here happen to be using 64... or more importantly have an ati card..?
[08:33] <osh> Woah! Ubuntu is sweet! :-)
[08:33] <slappy16> then its command line
[08:33] <holysmokes> slappy16, i like grub just fine for single OS machines, but i've had some serious woes with grub on a winxp dual-boot...
[08:33] <osh> digitalwoot: I am.
[08:33] <digitalwoot> ah
[08:33] <slappy16> hey, does this look familiar.. 'L' 'LI' 'LIL' .. the "FSD()#@*$)(#@*$)(#@*$!!!"
[08:33] <Pluk> :D lol
[08:33] <holysmokes> carlk, do you happen to know if it supports pcmcia?
[08:33] <slappy16> ;)
[08:33] <CarlK> holysmokes - or if you are extra nuts, figure out how to make grub boot from the net (says it can, but I couldn't figure out how)
[08:33] <nickrud> slappy16, not for a loong time
[08:33] <osh> digitalwoot: And I'm on a radeon card.
[08:34] <CarlK> holysmokes - pcmica is the one thing it doesnt do :(
[08:34] <nickrud> but many :)
[08:34] <holysmokes> carlk, doh!
[08:34] <slappy16> lol..ya, me neither,
[08:34] <slappy16> only if you screw up you see that
[08:34] <slappy16> but i just kept forgetting to run lilo
[08:34] <slappy16> then again, i never reboot now
[08:34] <nickrud> :)
[08:34] <CarlK> holysmokes - so the is a laptop with tokenring?
[08:34] <slappy16> ohhh! tokenring!? no way
[08:34] <|iggy|> http://sial.org/pbot/9490 does anybody can help me please with this failure while compile for my ati rage
[08:34] <osh> What package do I have to get to be able to see my music mpegs (vids) again?
[08:34] <holysmokes> carlk, well, do you happen to have a link to the "installation manual" that the install splash refers to? the ubuntu site seems a bit spartan when it comes to official documentation at this point...
[08:34] <slappy16> you're lucky, tokenring
[08:35] <digitalwoot> and you've had luck with it eh..? I have amd64 3000 and an ati aiw 9800
[08:35] <osh> digitalwoot: Everything seems to work here except sound and video...
[08:35] <CarlK> holysmokes - no clue - I know nothing about splash stuff and have the same fun trying to find things like "installation manual"
[08:36] <digitalwoot> you have 3d  accel and a high res - refresh rates..?
[08:36] <holysmokes> carlk, alright.. thanks anyway :)
[08:36] <hmmm22> where do i get these cool wallpapers of Ubuntu
[08:36] <nickrud> hmmm22, ubuntu-artwork-$(month)
[08:36] <digitalwoot> did you have to manually edit the xorg.conf file
[08:37] <digitalwoot> with the fglrx or whatever in place of ati
[08:37] <digitalwoot> and if so do you add a "module" for fglrx....
[08:37] <digitalwoot> forgive my noobness lol ;-)
[08:37] <hmmm22> nickrud could I get it with apt-get
[08:37] <dash> hello! I am using OOo 2 and having some font oddness
[08:37] <dash> or rather
[08:38] <dash> when i start it from the gnome menu, it looks fine, but when it gets launched from the opening of an .sxw file or whatever, it doesn't load the gtk bits
[08:38] <nickrud> absolutely, search in synaptic
[08:38] <dash> anybody know which thingy i need to edit to fix this? :)
[08:38] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[08:39] <da_bon_bon> how does ubuntu use grepmap to speed up hotplug ? can i use it on other distros ?
[08:39] <hmmm22> when i install the artwork package. It install only these normal brown wallpapers.
[08:39] <holysmokes> anyone have any salient thoughts on the merits of ext3 versus reiserfs?
[08:40] <CarlK> reiserfs sounds new and improved ;)
[08:40] <osh> My media player sais it can't decode an mpeg stream. That can't be right. Do I need some extra libs or something?
[08:40] <nickrud> hmmm22, sorry, ubuntu-calendar :)
[08:41] <hmmm22> osh i would install the totem-xine. then it should work
[08:41] <hmmm22> ah ok
[08:41] <osh> totem-xine it is. thanks for the hint.
[08:41] <holysmokes> carlk, yeah, i've been using reiserfs for years now (with slackware).. just wondering whether there's cause to balk at ubuntu's ext3 default or not
[08:42] <digitalwoot> osh: remember you are 64bit...
[08:42] <kent> holycow, Dont  :)
[08:42] <da_bon_bon> how does ubuntu use grepmap to speed up hotplug ? can i use it on other distros ?
[08:42] <Zugot> 64 bit linux isn't exactly prime time yet
[08:42] <b2s> Zugot: works for me
[08:42] <CarlK> holysmokes - from what I hear, ext3 is more stable
[08:42] <Zugot> i have a much experience running ia32 linux on my laptop
[08:43] <Zugot> b2s: it works, but it isn't primetime yet...
[08:43] <osh> zugot: noted. totem-xine doesn't seem to exist for 64 yet...
[08:43] <hawke> Zugot: Howso?
[08:43] <Zugot> i still have apps that don't work under amd64
[08:43] <b2s> osh yes it does
[08:43] <b2s> I'm running it right now :)
[08:43] <Zugot> my vpn software
[08:43] <hawke> Zugot: The only thing I've missed is flash
[08:43] <flodine> can someone tell me why fluxbox dont look right under ubuntu
[08:43] <Zugot> if it doesn't work... i can't work from... and i hate they office
[08:43] <holysmokes> carlk, i had some problems with it, but this was during it's very early days.. don't really have any recent first-hand experience to judge one way or the other
[08:43] <osh> b2s: it does? do I have to add something to apt to find it?
[08:44] <Pluk> most apps that dont work on 64bit work in a 32bit chroot
[08:44] <holysmokes> wish this cd worked so i could just let it rip! worked great on my desktop.. oh well, back to work..
[08:44] <b2s> osh: it might be in universe...
[08:44] <hawke> Zugot: which vpn software is that?
[08:44] <Zugot> not to say that in a year, amd64 linux should be great...
[08:44] <Zugot> hawke: cisco
[08:44] <] BreliC[> hawke, these apps don't work on amd64 at all?  not even in 32bit mode?
[08:44] <b2s> Zugot: what sort of vpn software is it?
[08:44] <hawke> Zugot: have you tried vpnc for Linux?
[08:44] <] BreliC[> i thought amd64 was supposed to switch between 32 and 64 as needed...
[08:44] <Zugot> hawke: vpnc doesn't work in 64bit linux
[08:45] <Zugot> hawke: i'm running vpnc right now
[08:45] <osh> b2s: Sorry. I don't know what "universe" is. Can you give a link so I can read up on it?
[08:45] <b2s> is there any way to tell what repository an installed package has come from?
[08:45] <Bazzi> ] BreliC[ the cpu can
[08:45] <shekhar> could someone help me with editing my sources.list?
[08:45] <] BreliC[> Bazzi, ahh, gotcha.  but the apps can't?
[08:45] <hawke> Zugot: I never got it working in 32-bit, so...
[08:45] <shekhar> i want to install http://packages.debian.org/unstable/science/gpx2shp
[08:45] <b2s> osh: it is a configuration option in synaptic, or you can edit sources.list
[08:45] <Zugot> i just got vmware 5 on friday.... vmware 4 didn't work at all for me in 64bit mode
[08:45] <Bazzi> ] BreliC[ the kernel/OS cannot
[08:45] <Bazzi> or so it seems
[08:46] <nekohayo> hi, any way to force downgrade everything with apt-get?
[08:46] <b2s> Bazzi: only kernel modules are affected.  The linux kernel itself has no problems running 32 bit apps at the same time as 64 bit ones
[08:46] <osh> b2s: Thanks. Amazing what a little info can do.
[08:47] <nickrud> b2s, grep-dctrl
[08:47] <seeker> I just installed some programs using synaptic but they were not added to the application menu. how can I find them? (and how can I add them to the menu?)
[08:47] <delire> anyone here with a laptop running acpi? have a favour to ask.
[08:47] <usynic> delire: yeah
[08:47] <b2s> osh: yep :) so far I've only found one avi that doesn't play under amd64... I assume I just need some other codec, but I can play divx, wmv, mov, dvd, etc
[08:47] <timmow> is it possible to downgrade my xorg video driver to the old one from xfree86?
[08:48] <flodine> anyone running fluxbox and working right
[08:48] <Zugot> my next laptop is going to be a pentium...
[08:48] <delire> usynic: thanks. i'm writing a little app and need check we have the same output. can you 'cat -n /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state | grep remain'?
[08:48] <Zugot> thinkpad t42
[08:48] <Pluk> got that one Zugot
[08:48] <usynic> delire: ack -hrmm.  let me get it out of my backpack.
[08:48] <Pluk> its awesome
[08:48] <da_bon_bon> how does ubuntu use grepmap to speed up hotplug ? can i use it on other distros ?
[08:48] <Zugot> i need 1600x1200 resolution...
[08:48] <delire> usynic: hey don't worry about it ;)
[08:48] <chefkoch-2002> how do i install wine on amd64 arch?
[08:48] <usynic> delire: too late.
[08:48] <chefkoch-2002> cant find in repos...
[08:49] <Pluk> chefkoch-2002, in a 32bit chroot
[08:49] <b2s> chefkoch-2002: I believe you need to set up a 32bit chroot to run wine
[08:49] <delire> usynic: cheers..
[08:49] <beggar> how can i change the name of items in "Computer" in gnome?
[08:49] <Pluk> chefkoch-2002, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575 for chroot howto
[08:49] <osh> b2s: Since you're so good at this. Do you happen to know what package to install to get the sound to work too?
[08:49] <seeker> anyone?
[08:50] <seeker> I just installed some programs using synaptic but they were not added to the application menu. how can I find them? (and how can I add them to the menu?)
[08:50] <chefkoch-2002> thx
[08:50] <b2s> osh: sound for what?
[08:50] <nekohayo> seeker, why not ALT-F2 and run them directly?
[08:50] <nekohayo> it has autocompletion
[08:50] <chefkoch-2002> next problem is: fluxbox does not update menue entries...
[08:50] <nickrud> seeker: dpkg -L <packagename> | bin will give you a start
[08:50] <xukun> delire, that command doesnt do much for me
[08:50] <synic|w> [synic@manetheren ~] $ cat -n /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state | grep remain
[08:50] <synic|w>      5  remaining capacity:      39530 mWh
[08:50] <synic|w> delire
[08:51] <osh> b2s, I have no sound at all.
[08:51] <delire> synic|w : great news. cheers
[08:51] <b2s> osh: :/ sound worked out of the box for me.  what sort of sound card do you have?
[08:51] <synic|w> delire: need anything else before I put it away?
[08:51] <delire> synic|w : can you 'uname -r'?
[08:51] <synic|w> 2.6.10-5-686
[08:51] <delire> synic|w : and also the model of your laptop
[08:51] <nickrud> www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GnomeMenuEditingHowTo
[08:52] <kent> da_bon_bon, not being an expert on the subject my self, I would recomend to look for grepmap in the init-scripts and see what it does.. and if it looks like it can be reproduced in a simple way on other distros..
[08:52] <synic|w> delire: thinkpad t23
[08:52] <delire> synic|w : ok, great. i really appreciate that.
[08:52] <synic|w> np
[08:52] <seeker> nickrud,  i get " bin: command not found
[08:52] <nickrud> seeker: dpkg -L <packagename> | grep bin :)
[08:53] <delire> that will make alot of output ;)
[08:53] <da_bon_bon> kent: oh, i dont have ubuntu hoary ATM. waiting for the cds :)
[08:53] <nicedreams> how and where can I change or make it so with my joypad that the analong and directional buttons do the same thing?
[08:53] <seeker> ok, I'll try that
[08:53] <osh> b2s, audigy2. thought perhaps the alsamixer might help but it hasn't so far. I can hear the speakers "tap" when alsa is started but once logged in I have no sound.
[08:53] <seeker> thnks
[08:53] <delire> da_bon_bon: do you know how long canonical takes to ship them btw?
[08:54] <Moof> can ubuntu boot off a logical partiion on a PC?
[08:54] <LycoN> Help: Fatal: First sector of /dev/hda1 doesn't have a valid boot signature
[08:54] <azad> hi.. is it possible (and maybe somehow easy) to make a nfts partition smaller under linux and make the other space free to add it to and ext3 partition?
[08:54] <da_bon_bon> delire: no idea. i am india. i got my warty cds on december 29 , and i had ordered before warty was relased :) your point being ?
[08:54] <b2s> osh: and it seems during boot that the audigy2 is detected?  I'd expect that to work in amd64...
[08:54] <timmow> azad: I did it using knoppix and qtparted
[08:54] <delire> azad ntfs is an arse but it is resizeable.
[08:54] <LycoN> Help: Fatal: First sector of /dev/hda1 doesn't have a valid boot signature
[08:54] <timmow> azad: I would back up everything first thoug
[08:54] <carlitos> hey, anyone uses mono?
[08:55] <delire> da_bon_bon: i have just ordered some, have no idea of the latency to expect.
[08:55] <azad> everything including non-ntfs things too, timmow?
[08:55] <|QuaD-> carlitos: i do
[08:55] <da_bon_bon> delire: hmm.. i think i will get mine june start
[08:55] <cavediver> Is it hard to make a 32 bit chroot of firefox, i'm tired of not having java and flash ?!
[08:55] <delire> LycoN: hmm, that can be a problem. is this after install?
[08:55] <LycoN> yes
[08:55] <LycoN> h/o
[08:55] <timmow> azad: well just your data on the partition you are resizing
[08:55] <delire> LycoN: first boot?
[08:55] <Azgalor> HI
[08:55] <Azgalor> hey guiz
[08:55] <azad> okay
[08:55] <Pluk> cavediver, just follow these steps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[08:55] <LycoN> nrh
[08:55] <LycoN> neg
[08:55] <wezzer> is there any text-based browsers with javascript support?
[08:55] <timmow> azad: although you can never be too careful :)
[08:55] <Azgalor> can u vote for me plz
[08:56] <Azgalor> * You were kicked from #debian by caphuso (caphuso)
[08:56] <Azgalor> -
[08:56] <LycoN> this is while trying to run liloconfig
[08:56] <b2s> osh: have you checked all the tabs in alsamixer?    I was really hoping you'd be more annoying.  Think that is possible?
[08:57] <jeanmi_> is there any know bugs about this ?
[08:57] <delire> can someone kick that troll?
[08:57] <cavediver> Pluk: seems nice, but i don't have the /etc/dchroot.conf you shold edit in step1 ?
[08:57] <Azgalor> but ill flood =)
[08:57] <LycoN> i had them switched
[08:57] <timmow> xukun: tv out support dissappeared
[08:57] <LycoN> thanks guys
[08:58] <Eno_> quick question: is the amd64 port of ubuntu have amd64 stuff in universe (ie. k3b)?
[08:58] <SachaS> someone from UK?, please priv msg. me. have a question about UK holiday governement rules. thanks.
[08:58] <azad> agh.. timmow, i can't click resize in right-click menu
[08:58] <Azgalor> everything is possible
[08:58] <da_bon_bon> Azgalor: u r lucky theres no op ATM
[08:58] <Azgalor> HIHI
[08:58] <Azgalor> cool
[08:58] <osh> b2s, analog output jack is disabled. what am I looking for in dmesg? is audigy tagged as something else perhaps?
[08:58] <b2s> Eno_: yes, there is stuff in universe
[08:58] <Pluk> cavediver, step 1 says first sudo apt-get install dchroot debootstrap
[08:58] <delire> whois Azgalor
[08:58] <xukun> timmow, cant help you with that, sorry
[08:58] <delire> .. i wonder
[08:58] <timmow> azad: did you run qtparted in root mode? also make sure the disk is not mounted!
[08:58] <Azgalor> http://l2.hopzone.net/vote.php?site=441
[08:59] <Azgalor> http://l2.hopzone.net/vote.php?site=441
[08:59] <Pluk> that shoudl give you /etc/dchroot.conf
[08:59] <Azgalor> http://l2.hopzone.net/vote.php?site=441
[08:59] <Azgalor> http://l2.hopzone.net/vote.php?site=441
[08:59] <Azgalor> http://l2.hopzone.net/vote.php?site=441
[08:59] <Azgalor> http://l2.hopzone.net/vote.php?site=441
[08:59] <Azgalor> http://l2.hopzone.net/vote.php?site=441
[08:59] <osh> b2s, "all tabs in alsamixer". That's quite a lot... ;-)
[08:59] <Moof> hi. can ubuntu boot off a logical partition?
[08:59] <azad> oh
[08:59] <delire> there is no op here?
[08:59] <cavediver> Pluk: ahh :)
[08:59] <delire> Moof: yes.
[08:59] <Moof> delire: ta
[08:59] <timmow> xukun: thats fine it was a long shot anyway
[08:59] <b2s> osh: heh, that's just what I've heard.  I don't have an audigy2, as this is an amd64 laptop
[08:59] <azad> timmow: but sudo's enough?
[08:59] <timmow> azad: should be
[09:00] <timmow> azad: are you doing this in ubuntu, or knoppix?
[09:00] <azad> ubuntu
[09:00] <azad> and i get an error
[09:00] <azad> Error: Filesystem was not cleanly unmounted!  You should e2fsck.  Modifying an unclean filesystem could cause severe corruption.
[09:00] <azad> No Implementation: Support for opening ntfs file systems is not implemented yet.
[09:00] <Edgan> osh: with mine there is a mixer setting that toggles analog/digital
[09:01] <Edgan> osh: lately it has been defaulting to digital, but I use analog
[09:01] <beggar> how can i download something in the gnome cvs?
[09:01] <timmow> azad: Ubuntu does not have the ntfs tools installed by default.  Knoppix does, which is why i used that.  You also cannot use qtparted on the a drive that is mounted.  what happens if you type mount in a terminal?
[09:02] <jeanmi_> I can see loads of sox processes running
[09:02] <LycoN> Ok lilo.conf is good
[09:02] <LycoN> now
[09:02] <azad> timmow: shows anything what's mounted
[09:02] <jeanmi_> that seem to have been exectuted by amsn
[09:02] <LycoN> it still wont boot xp
[09:02] <jeanmi_> and got stuck because the sound resource were not available
[09:02] <nickrud> beggar, http://developer.gnome.org/tools/cvs.html
[09:03] <jeanmi_> is there anything I can do about that ?
[09:03] <Pluk> LycoN, did you rerun lilo after editing lilo.conf?
[09:03] <timmow> azad: sorry just checking :)
[09:03] <beggar> tks nickrud
[09:03] <LycoN> yes
[09:03] <LycoN> it worked
[09:03] <LycoN> it just wont boot xp
[09:03] <LycoN> which is on hdb1
[09:03] <nickrud> beggar, unless you're good, use jhbuild :)
[09:04] <LycoN> that is wat it says in lilo.conf
[09:04] <timmow> azad: So if the drive you are using is not mounted, you need to install the ntfs support from synaptic.  Then try qtparted again.
[09:04] <delire> LycoN: check the line pointing to it in /etc/lilo.conf
[09:04] <SachaS> someone from UK?, please priv msg. me. have a question about UK holiday governement rules. thanks.
[09:04] <azad> timmow: how to? what support is that?
[09:04] <delire> LycoN: 'fdisk -l' to check
[09:05] <storixrich> is /dev on /.dev related to udev?
[09:05] <delire> jeanmi_: you want to kill the sox processes? if so 'killall sox'
[09:05] <nickrud> storixrich, yes, .dev is the old MAKEDEV on, dev is udev
[09:06] <timmow> azad: I think the package is ntfstools.  sudo apt-get ntfstools
[09:06] <] BreliC[> jeanmi_, and if that doesn't work, 'killall smelly sox'
[09:06] <jeanmi_> delire no I want to figure out how come they get stuck
[09:06] <timmow> azad: I am going to have to go now.  Good luck, hope someone else can help if that does not work.
[09:06] <azad> install :)
[09:06] <azad> thanks a lot
[09:06] <azad> have a nice day then!
[09:06] <delire> jeanmi_: is this when you first login?
[09:06] <timmow> bye
[09:06] <osh> Edgan, b2s: I've managed to get some sound out of the box now. Unfortunatly not from the mpeg. But atleast I get an "error sound" when the app crashes... ;-)
[09:07] <delire> azad: congrats ;)
[09:07] <osh> Thank's for your time. I'll have to research this another time.
[09:07] <azad> delire?
[09:07] <delire> azad: i thought you solved your problem.. nm
[09:08] <dbrouwer> okay, HOW do i get rythmbox to play mp3's? i installed gstreamer etc, still wont play mp3
[09:08] <azad> delire: ahh, well part of it maybe, thanks ;)
[09:08] <b0ol> can someone tell me how to configure my black logitech keyboard with all it's multimedia features pls?
[09:08] <onno> how do I make a link to a directory ln ../this/dir ./
[09:08] <nickrud> dbrouwer, gstreamer0.8-mad in universe
[09:08] <onno> ???
[09:08] <delire> dbrouwer: there's a checklist on the ubuntu wiki i believe.
[09:09] <delire> onno ln -s origindir symlink
[09:09] <storixrich> why does a df show the entire contents of my / filesystem for both my / partition and /dev?
[09:09] <dbrouwer> okay, i am new to ubuntu, how do i get something in universe again? i need to edit a file right? which one, could you quickly point te how
[09:09] <osh> OUCH! It didn't like .avi's at all. It sounded like "cat /dev/random | /dev/dsp"  :-(
[09:09] <AstralJava> dbrouwer: /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:09] <beggar> nckrud i just want to download the cvs version (and the only) of gnome-menu-editor
[09:09] <osh> dbrouwer: Or check "synaptic" options.
[09:09] <beggar> *nickrud
[09:10] <b0ol> hello?
[09:10] <delire> osh: odd. can you play wave files?
[09:10] <goonie> hello all.. I got a new problem for you guys
[09:10] <nickrud> beggar, you have proper access now?
[09:10] <delire> b0ol: what's up
[09:10] <b0ol> hi
[09:10] <b0ol> :)
[09:10] <dbrouwer> i'd rather mess with the file
[09:10] <b0ol> erm... i have a black keyboard from logitech
[09:10] <goonie> I upgraded to Hoary and immediately on the first boot I got an error similar to this one: ipw2200: Fatal error
[09:10] <goonie> ipw2200: Start IPW Error Log Dump:
[09:10] <goonie> ipw2200: Status: 0x000000C0, Config: 00000142
[09:10] <goonie> ipw2200: Start IPW Event Log Dump:
[09:10] <b0ol> it has several multimedia featueres but only 2-3 work :(
[09:11] <b0ol> (volume as example)
[09:11] <delire> goonie: that's your wifi card
[09:11] <b0ol> switching the track is not possible :<
[09:11] <dbrouwer> is this what i need to do: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security main restricted universe   ?
[09:11] <beggar> nickrud yes
[09:11] <delire> goonie: and a useful error to the intel team. i'd join #ipw2100 (also an ipw2200 channel) and let them know. i'd say it's firmware related.
[09:11] <delire> goonie: can you actually log in?
[09:12] <Lyco1> how do u send a carriage on netcat?
[09:12] <goonie> delire~ I know this.. now this error comes up most of the time but not always... the card works when i start x
[09:12] <nickrud> beggar, check out jhbuild, set it up, the jhbuild gnome-system-monitor, it should do all the work for you
[09:12] <jeanmi_> there must be a program that uses the sounds resources and thus forbids other progs to use them but I can't find which one
[09:12] <nicedreams> how do I make ubuntu make my joypad analong and digital buttons work the same direction like up,down,left,right?
[09:12] <nickrud> *then
[09:12] <beggar> ok
[09:12] <jeanmi_> is there anything common with gnome that does that ? (I dont know gnoem at all)
[09:12] <delire> b0ol: multimedia keys can be tricky b0ol. i would search on http://google.com/linux for the name of your keyboard +"multimedia keys". sorry i can't help more
[09:12] <b0ol> hmmm okay no problem :)
[09:12] <beggar> where can i find it?
[09:13] <b0ol> cause i have many further questions ;)
[09:13] <b0ol> hehehe :D
[09:13] <goonie> delire~ the card worked great in warty and works fine in windows on the same machine (dual boot)
[09:13] <delire> goonie: ok good. i would grab the newest driver from ipw2200.sf.net and install
[09:13] <nickrud> it's in gnome cvs :)
[09:13] <goonie> delire~ I'll try that :)
[09:13] <goonie> delire~ thx
[09:13] <delire> goonie: as i say, i think it's a firmware issue. check in #ipw2100. i have the same card. regardless if it's intermittently doing it the Intel guys would like to hear from you there.
[09:14] <osh> delire: Hang on. I'll see if I can find one. I think so though. The "system sounds" are wav's I think.
[09:15] <delire> osh: yep try that first.
[09:15] <markuman> where are the .deb packages whitch has apt-get installed?
[09:15] <nico_> Hi ... I dont see gaim as upgradable on my hoary. I have gaim 1.1.4 whereas the last version is 1.2.1  Is it because 1.2.1 is not yet on my sources (ubuntu and marillat) ? Is the only solution to add a backport source ?
[09:15] <markuman> in whitch folder?
[09:15] <delire> goonie: remember to uninstall your previous drivers first. join that channel for help if required.
[09:15] <nickrud> markuman, /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:15] <markuman> thx
[09:16] <goonie> delire~ I will thx
[09:16] <delire> np
[09:16] <Jeezis> how do i make kaffeine the default media player as opposed to the one ubuntu sets as default?
[09:16] <pantz> can i ask people to paste in their output from this command please?? ...  mount|head -1
[09:16] <pantz> rootfs on / type rootfs (rw)
[09:17] <nico_> pantz, /dev/hda8 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[09:17] <delire> pantz: why that will be different on every machine: anyway "/dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)"
[09:17] <dbrouwer> AstralJava, osh, thanks. it's working fine now!
[09:17] <pantz> delire, well why do i have type rootfs? is what i am trying to determine
[09:18] <delire> pantz: weird.. is this a fresh install?
[09:18] <pantz> i am having big problems with mtab
[09:18] <pantz> well fresh enough - 2 days
[09:18] <osh> delire: nope. dead silent. I'll have to go now anyway but thanks for your help.
[09:18] <AstralJava> dbrouwer: Np. :)
[09:18] <dbrouwer> AstralJave, you been using ubuntu long?
[09:19] <pantz> delire, this is what i have in fstab - /dev/hda5       /               ext3    defaults        0       1
[09:19] <bwlang> i need to delete every 3rd file in a directory (they're named like this 00001.out 0000n.out)  what's the easiest way to do that?
[09:19] <AstralJava> dbrouwer: For a little while, a few months maybe.
[09:19] <dbrouwer> i just installed it few dayus ago, i must say, i really like it. I am a gentoo user, which i like, i messed up my system bad, no time right now (exams and all) so quickly wanted to try out ubuntu, it is pretty nice
[09:20] <AstralJava> dbrouwer: Yes, it's got everything I needed and wanted. No turning back now. :)
[09:20] <delire> pantz: and you can boot that?
[09:20] <dbrouwer> okay, now that i got my music to work, i'm gonna quickly get back to study
[09:20] <dbrouwer> lol, bye, thanks again
[09:20] <OFF> hi all
[09:21] <slappy16> bwlang: er..python? perl?
[09:21] <pantz> delire,  yeah i am in it right now
[09:21] <ztonzy> delire, evening :)
[09:21] <slappy16> i know the ranger method in python would do it
[09:21] <GrayThunder> any plans for a tv5250 package for ubuntu?
[09:21] <OFF> i just installed splashy (usplash c++ port) .. but now i want to install it on another distro (damnsmalllinux) .. but i need a static version of splashy.. how could i do that??
[09:21] <delire> pantz: that's perfectly fine.. mine looks like "/dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1"
[09:21] <GrayThunder> tn5250
[09:21] <nickrud> pantz, that has something to do with ramdisks, pantz, what's your second mount line look like
[09:22] <delire> ztonzy: hola
[09:22] <pantz> but when i try to mount anything else i get this error - mount: can't open /etc/mtab for writing: Input/output error
[09:22] <pantz> nickrud, /dev2/root2 on / type ext3 (rw)
[09:22] <holysmokes> carlk, success! i believe i have it figured out.. dhcp was timing out intermittently.. also, you must choose 'expert' or 'server-expert' as your target so that you are prompted to configure the mirror to install from.. and the cd should not be removed until you get to 'Install Base System'
[09:23] <zero[] > can i have my default account log in automatically? without entering user name and pw
[09:23] <ztonzy> delire, back to metacity
[09:23] <nickrud> pantz, you have some kind of abstraction layer going on, which I don't know much about :)
[09:23] <pantz> nickrud, yippee!
[09:23] <OFF> pls help
[09:24] <delire> OFF: ldd /path/to/splashy/binary to see the dependencies. collect all those dependencies into one place and rebuild with new ./configure --prefix=.. tar it up and distribute. that what you mean?
[09:24] <delire> ztonzy: hehe ok
[09:24] <pantz> nickrud, how would i have got into this mess - i just added a couple of smbfs mounts to fstab and after a couple of reboots i started getting the mtab error
[09:24] <djm62> zero[] : gdmsetup
[09:24] <pantz> nickrud, what is being abstracted?
[09:25] <delire> pantz: i thought rootfs was largely used for network booting et al. never really had to deal with it. is this a fresh install?
[09:25] <zero[] > djm62: thanks
[09:25] <nickrud> pantz, over my head, try googling the second line, it may give you some pointers
[09:25] <djm62> zero[] : System->Administration->Login Screen Setup
[09:25] <pantz> delire, well fresh from 2 days ago - and a little bit of customization
[09:25] <pantz> nickrud, thanks
[09:26] <OFF> delire, yes exactly but my problem is i just have to update (and destabilze) my whole system..
[09:26] <delire> pantz: i'd jump into #samba and see if there's any interface between samba and these weird rootfs remounts you're experiencing.
[09:27] <karl> hi there, I want to run beagle under hoary, what is the easiest way to upgrade mono?
[09:27] <zero[] > djm62: i got it with gdm setup already =)
[09:27] <jlopes> quit
[09:27] <jeanmi_> when esd is running I can listen to mp3 with rythmbox, I can hear the sound when gnome starts. BUT realplayer wont work and I can;t hear the sounds from amsn. If I kill esd, then it';s the exact contrary
[09:27] <Juhaz> does hoary have any non-utf8 locales?
[09:28] <pantz> delire, i'm gonna comment out every other mount in fstab and reboot - see if i can find the culprit ... thanks for your help
[09:28] <brrrt> hello all :)
[09:28] <goldfish> hi
[09:28] <delire> OFF sorry, a bit lost. if your shipping a statically compiled project the only thing the runtime site needs is the same architecture (other specific hardware dependencies aside).
[09:28] <brrrt> could anyone give me a hint howto grab movies from my webcam ?
[09:29] <brrrt> e.g. with xawtv i only get a wav file and lots of images :(
[09:30] <UbunDoc> Anyone know how to change the localhost name? such as username@ubuntu:~$
[09:30] <UbunDoc> the display in your shell
[09:30] <Fulg> Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,3)
[09:30] <OFF> delire, its isnt my project, its splashy (EX-usplash), i mean the new bootsplash-project for ubuntu..
[09:30] <Fulg> what can i do?
[09:30] <brrrt> UbuntuDocsudo hostname whatever ?
[09:30] <djm62> brrrt: camorama ?
[09:31] <UbunDoc> hmm might work
[09:31] <UbunDoc> lemme check
[09:31] <ryanblack> does the majority of the people here think that despite the fact that I have an amd64 processor... I should install 32bit ubuntu...? I have 64 installed now and cannot seem to get the ATI drivers working..
[09:31] <delire> OFF: ahah.. hmm. i would grab the source with 'apt-get source <splash-package>' and then take it over to your other damnsmallinux and compile it there.
[09:31] <flodine> anyone running gmp
[09:31] <Fulg> what can i do?
[09:31] <Fulg> what can i do?
[09:31] <Fulg> Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,3)
[09:31] <erkatta> Anyone know a good wireless manager for gnome?
[09:32] <UbunDoc> brrrt: that command is keeping my terminals from opening
[09:32] <OFF> delire, i cant compile it there.. as i just have the minimum of all..
[09:32] <brrrt> djm62: thx, i'll try :)
[09:32] <nickrud> Fulg, http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0412.2/1068.html
[09:32] <djm62> erkatta: network-admin can do wireless stuff
[09:33] <djm62> erkatta: other than that...not that I know of
[09:33] <ryanblack> this is probably a dumb question... but all the apps that can be called from the terminal... all the debian stuff... like the package configure app... can I list those..?
[09:33] <delire> OFF: i would see if it's worthwhile first. ldd the binary now and see if it's more than damnsmallinux has in it's own suite of libraries.
[09:34] <seeker> thanks guys! I now have sound enables with everything and I have network support on boot up!
[09:34] <Choubaka> ryanblack: tap tab twice. :p
[09:34] <delire> digitalwoot: all the aps? tab tab
[09:34] <djm62> ryanblack: erm...you can list the contents of /usr/bin /bin /usr/local/bin
[09:34] <erkatta> thank you djm62 but I alrady configure my wireless interface "ath0" with network-admin but I can't ping my router....
[09:34] <delparnel> Hey, how can I get Audacity to record a skype conversation.... Either that or can anyone suggest a recording program that will do it?
[09:35] <Fulg> there`s nothing there!!!!!
[09:35] <digitalwoot> I could just echo those into a file I guess..
[09:35] <digitalwoot> or simply hit tab twice..?
[09:35] <digitalwoot> :-D
[09:35] <digitalwoot> cool
[09:35] <delire> Fulg: is this after a fresh install?
[09:35] <djm62> digitalwoot: there are quite a few...
[09:35] <delire> digitalwoot: yep.
[09:35] <jonh> how can i put more univers on my depositorio
[09:35] <OFF> delire, it is more then what dsl has..
[09:35] <digitalwoot> I am having a problem getting an ATI AIW 9800 working with their drivers..
[09:35] <Fulg> nope
[09:35] <Fulg> after installing a new kernel
[09:35] <delire> djm62: a notable amount. more than 'several'
[09:36] <digitalwoot> I installed everything it needed to compile... ran the make.... bing done..
[09:36] <Fulg> the new kernel isnt working
[09:36] <delire> Fulg: you probably don't have filesystem support.
[09:36] <digitalwoot> do I need to manually edit xorg.conf?
[09:36] <nickrud> Fulg, are you sure you compiled the ide support into the kernel, not as a module
[09:36] <pantz> i have a resolution of 1024x768 at 60Hz - after installing the nvidia driver i should be able to get much higher - anyone know how to reconfigure the X server?
[09:36] <Fulg> yes
[09:36] <delire> Fulg: either that or you're bootmanager isn't setup properly
[09:36] <dcraven> Fulg, you need to make sure that you compile your filesystem and IDE etc directly into the kernel (not a module). The stock kernel doesn't do this because it uses an initrd.
[09:36] <digitalwoot> 60 Hz makes my eyes want to bleed...:-\
[09:37] <delire> Fulg: i think it's IDE_BLK_DEV or similar
[09:37] <nickrud> pantz, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:37] <dcraven> Fulg, you need to compile everything into the kernel that the system needs to boot.
[09:37] <jonh> how can i do the updates 4 ubuntu any1?
[09:37] <delparnel> ?
[09:37] <nico_> I have hoary and I dont understand why packages are never marked as upgradable in synaptic ? what do I have to do to have the latest packages ?
[09:37] <jonh> how can i do the updates 4 ubuntu any1?
[09:37] <nickrud> nico_, there are no upgrades yet
[09:37] <djm62> nico_: hoary is stable...no unnecessary updates
[09:38] <jonh> alright
[09:38] <jonh> how about the codecs and all that?
[09:38] <pantz> nickrud, thanks again ;)
[09:38] <nico_> is there a unstable version if I really want the latest ?
[09:38] <nickrud> np
[09:38] <dcraven> nico_, give it a few weeks before you jump to unstable.... Or better yet, months.
[09:39] <djm62> nico_: breezy is still unreliable, I think
[09:39] <erkatta> djm62 - I see this in the console: "Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed." But I didn't use any kind of authentication protocol such as WEP.....what can I do?
[09:39] <delire> Fulg: 'egrep -R BLK_DEV_IDE /usr/src/<kernel-source>/.config'
[09:39] <nickrud> nico_, there's breezy, but ....
[09:39] <digitalwoot> would I install ATI's drivers and then run the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ....
[09:39] <Pluk> breezy is unstable, but atm its really unstable :)
[09:40] <nico_> what if I want to upgrade a particular package ? I have to download the .deb and install it by hand ?
[09:40] <delire> erkatta: iwlist ath0 scanning
[09:40] <nickrud> digitalwoot, ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:40] <digitalwoot> nickrud: thanks
[09:40] <delire> erkatta: and see line 6
[09:41] <digitalwoot> I tried throwing a http in there.. that doesn't work.. I searched for binardriverhowto on the wiki and no luck you have a direct clickable link?
[09:41] <djm62> nico_: unless you're lacking functionality, it's not advised
[09:41] <delire> digitalwoot: i'd run fglrxconfig myself. regardless you should back up your XF86Config-4 first
[09:41] <nickrud> http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:42] <digitalwoot> here's the blatant reason I am a noob... - I didn't know that was there... "fglrxconfig"
[09:42] <blstnb> Hi can anyone please help me ?
[09:42] <djm62> just ask...
[09:42] <delire> digitalwoot: it's cool it's in the ati documentation that ships with the driver..
[09:42] <delire> digitalwoot: i think they mention it on ati.com/linux
[09:43] <brrrt> UbunDoc: ??
[09:43] <brrrt> UbunDoc: if you set your hostname to whatever you cant open a terminal anymore?
[09:43] <delire> digitalwoot: but i would read any Ubuntu howto's first
[09:43] <blstnb> I'am trying to get My Netgear PCI wireless adaptor TYPE WG311T 108 Mbps connected
[09:43] <blstnb> reconised by ubuntu
[09:43] <digitalwoot> I used to use linux... "mandrake" like years ago.... I have never used any debian based stuff...
[09:43] <erkatta> delire - Encryption key:off
[09:43] <delire> brrrt: no, because $who, on $what is opening the terminal.
[09:43] <digitalwoot> I agree since they are specific to this os... ;-) thank you delire...
[09:43] <delire> brrrt: log out and back in
[09:43] <digitalwoot> actually... a while ago I think I was on this room and you helped me then as well so thanks again..
[09:44] <delire> erkatta: ok and if you 'sudo ifdown ath0; ifup ath0'?
[09:44] <delire> erkatta: i mean 'sudo ifdown ath0; sudo ifup ath0'?
[09:44] <djm62> blstnb: ok...what have you tried? or do you just not know what to try?
[09:44] <blstnb> just don't really know
[09:45] <delire> digitalwoot: hey thanks for saying so ;)
[09:45] <chicken_man> any one know a good tcp\ip tutorial for C++ ?
[09:45] <djm62> blstnb: System->Administration->Networking
[09:45] <delire> chicken_man: muar har har
[09:45] <digitalwoot> so somewhere I can find kde for debian/unbuntu... I'd have to download it to my pb and take it home.. my ubuntu box doesn't have net yet
[09:45] <delire> chicken_man: lots out there ;)
[09:45] <chicken_man> :\
[09:45] <djm62> blstnb: all being well, your card will be there
[09:45] <blstnb> I will check
[09:45] <nickrud> digitalwoot, take a look at apt-zip, it makes it easy
[09:46] <delire> nickrud: awesome suggestion ;)
[09:46] <djm62> apt-zip? new on me
[09:46] <nickrud> lived on a 3k dialup for a year, it was a godsend
[09:46] <digitalwoot> I have never used gnome... I have.. to download it on a powerbook and then take it to ubuntu
[09:46] <delire> djm62: i used it ages ago. really was a treat.
[09:46] <dcraven> chicken_man, the best guide I've seen is Beej's Guide. It's for C, but you can just wrap those function calls in C++ classes.
[09:46] <darkwolf74> can anyone tell me how i designate one of my 2 machines as a server or where i can go to find this out?
[09:47] <nickrud> digitalwoot, exactly what you need
[09:47] <djm62> magic!
[09:47] <blstnb> It says it is there and that ath0 is active, but will not connect to wireless network. had to install standard ethernet card to get here
[09:47] <farruinn> darkwolf74: what are you trying to serve?
[09:47] <djm62> blstnb: can you configure the card with your network setting?
[09:47] <delire> digitalwoot: i would look into apt-zip as nickrud suggests. it's perfect. apt-get install apt-zip && man apt-zip
[09:48] <darkwolf74> farruinn: i want my faster computer to be a server and my slower one to be a terminal
[09:48] <blstnb> Not quite sure what you mean. sorry for being ignorant
[09:48] <digitalwoot> I am on a powerbook right now
[09:48] <djm62> blstnb: properties button, when you select the adapter
[09:48] <digitalwoot> and have no net connection to download stuff on the ubuntu box
[09:48] <digitalwoot> so no apt-get..
[09:48] <digitalwoot> :-\
[09:48] <delire> digitalwoot ahah not running ubuntu? perhaps install apt-get
[09:48] <Lito> hi, anybody uses jpodder?? ( a tool for podcasting)
[09:48] <digitalwoot> I have two machines
[09:48] <digitalwoot> a 12" pb os 10.3.9 and ubuntu at home
[09:49] <digitalwoot> I am at the office now ;-)
[09:49] <nickrud> digitalwoot, you select the things you want on ubuntu, apt-zip will make a list you can download on the powerbook. it WORKS
[09:49] <delire> digitalwoot: there is an apt-* port for OSX though
[09:49] <digitalwoot> so I have to take that stuff to the desktop
[09:49] <delire> yep
[09:49] <scizzo> digitalwoot: fink is a apt-get thingy for OS X
[09:49] <farruinn> darkwolf74: so you want to run one headerless?  Are you trying to set up X forwarding or something? there aremany different types of servers...
[09:50] <blstnb> i'am trying at the moment with DCHP as my network generates the IP address when you log on
[09:50] <digitalwoot> why?
[09:50] <digitalwoot> os x is awesome
[09:50] <digitalwoot> bsd man
[09:50] <delire> i have to work on it at times. horrible.
[09:50] <djm62> nice GUI though
[09:50] <delire> digitalwoot: i like the kernel, just hate the GUI
[09:51] <djm62> not as functional as gnome, but acceleration is a Good Thing
[09:51] <delire> that finder is a pain in the arse
[09:51] <dcraven> delire, I'm the same way. I think, however, that we are few.
[09:51] <delire> djm62: sure
[09:51] <delire> dcraven: the finder assumes software is lost already. odd concept
[09:51] <digitalwoot> well I use something called quicksilver to launch apps
[09:51] <sparkling> hi all
[09:51] <digitalwoot> and I am an apple tech
[09:51] <digitalwoot> so I can work on em'
[09:52] <delire> digitalwoot: i think darwin itself is interesting, but the UI really slows down my productivity.
[09:52] <digitalwoot> hmm
[09:52] <blstnb> okay nothing seems to have changed even though I have put default gateway IP address in and selected DHCP
[09:52] <digitalwoot> I think it is personality/work habits/if you know all the little tricks to do things
[09:52] <digitalwoot> spring loaded folders..
[09:52] <digitalwoot> folder actions with apple script..
[09:52] <digitalwoot> lots of neat stuff..
[09:52] <nickrud> I want springy folders
[09:52] <digitalwoot> I work faster on a mac than on a pc for sure...
[09:53] <abarbaccia|away> hey all - what do i need to install to get bluetooth working in ubuntu?
[09:53] <nickrud> how about getting the patent opened for us :)
[09:53] <delire> digitalwoot: anyway, if you like that kind of thing, see what this *madman* has done: http://kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=15431&file1=15431-1.jpg&file2=15431-2.jpg&file3=15431-3.jpg&name=KDE+3.3+-+Xorg+6.8+Beta+-+Unbeatable
[09:53] <djm62> blstnb: exit that dialogue for now, open a terminal (right-click on desktop to get that), and type "sudo dhclient ath0"
[09:53] <BB|Timsan> Hello everybody, I'm new to Ubuntu, and sort of new to linux too, i have some questions, someone to awnser them please?
[09:53] <abarbaccia|away> BB|Timsan, just ask
[09:53] <OFF> i just installed gmplayer but it is missing a font!! where can i get it?
[09:53] <digitalwoot> wooohoo awesome I want that
[09:54] <delire> digitalwoot: hehe thought you might ;)
[09:54] <eaon> delire: you're probably slower on os x because you're not used to it ;)
[09:54] <djm62> blstnb: this shouldn't be necessary, but I have found wireless with the gnome tool to be a bit shonky myself :-/