[18:39] <nhaines> Achievement unlocked: https://twitter.com/nhaines/status/913833591234269186
[18:39] <darthrobot> [R: mobile.twitter.com] Title: [Twitter]
[18:39] <nhaines> But also in important news, happy birthday pleia2!  :D
[18:40] <pleia2> thank you :)
[18:45] <nhaines> Good news: I have snapped jekyll and am probably about to release it.
[18:45] <nhaines> Bad news: Somehow I seem to have been given the task of maintaining a jekyll snap.  :P
[18:46] <pleia2> that's how it goes


[10:35] <bigcalm> o/
[10:37] <bigcalm> I need to update the CA certificate for cURL on a couple of 20.04 servers. I know the file or symlink will live in /etc/ssl/certs. But I was wondering where the best place would be to store 3rd party certs such as this, and if there is a command to create/maintain symlinks between server upgrades.
[10:37] <bigcalm> What I don't want is for the CA cert to get forgotten about and wonder why cURL is broken in 22.04
[10:49] <daftykins> hrmm, pass
[10:49] <daftykins> morning all \o
[10:51] <bigcalm> Quite :D
[10:52] <daftykins> is the curl and cert approach one to ensure you trust places you're grabbing things from, in code?
[10:52] <bigcalm> Yep
[10:52] <bigcalm> Google: SSL certificate problem: unable to get local issuer certificate curl
[11:04] <bigcalm> Looks like the issue isn't with cURL on the server itself
[11:05] <bigcalm> While I can access an URI without issue in Firefox, using cURL or HTTPie from a remote host throws an SSL error
[11:12] <bigcalm> Looks like I might have nginx / let's encrypt set-up incorrectly :|
[11:13] <daftykins> i was almost going to ask if you were working with LetsEncrypt, seen a few errors around when their old and new format certs are in place at once - in a few cases i've just deleted the old one to simplify things
[11:13] <daftykins> i don't deal with curl to know if there's any relevance to that part though
[11:14] <bigcalm> It's a new server with fresh certs issued 25th May 2021
[11:15] <daftykins> ah
[11:16] <bigcalm> Yep, nginx config issue
[11:17] <bigcalm> I had set ssl_certificate to cert.pem, when it needed to be fullchain.pem
[11:17] <daftykins> ooh
[11:17] <bigcalm> Apache has a config option for specifying the chain file, as well as the cert file
[11:18] <bigcalm> But not nginx (or at least not in my config!)
[11:19] <daftykins> mm i never made the switch and stay comfortably in apache land myself, i don't really retain any of that config stuff either - i just connect into hosts with working ones and copy them :D
[11:22] <bigcalm> I use both on different servers, but prefer nginx for new sites now
[11:22] <bigcalm> There are pros and cons for both
[11:23] <daftykins> i did hear claims nginx is lighter and scales well, but i typically only run simple services for people
[11:35] <daftykins> i've been brought a friends ancient core 2 duo macbook with expanded battery, need to assist in getting his data off of it and over to a ThinkPad running Windows that i sold him a while back
[11:35] <daftykins> the battery expansion has risen up through the touchpad and cracked it in a few directions :O
[11:51] <bigcalm> I recall a company MacBook having an inflated battery that caused the device to wobble. Thankfully all under warranty. I don't like fully sealed devices like MacBooks. At least with my own laptops I know I can remove the battery myself
[11:52] <daftykins> i despise crApple, but you can easily remove this one
[12:04] <popey> Spicy pillows!
[12:06] <zxm-pi> lithium batteries want to be fire :-)
[12:24] <daftykins> there we go, battery out with just a couple of proprietary screws (tri-wing)
[12:24] <daftykins> gotta love having an ifixit screwdriver set to hand
[12:28] <zxm-pi> my hammer(nokia 3310) out ranks your screw driver set! :-P
[12:32] <daftykins> https://imgur.com/a/DZD1hK3 - here's the state of it
[12:33] <zxm-pi> i abhor trackpads but i still feel bad for that one :-/
[12:35] <daftykins> funny how it still works, wouldn't fancy using it long term though
[12:35] <zxm-pi> on plus side you won't be leaving any fingerprints behind anymore :-P
[19:21] <daftykins> https://i.imgur.com/mol5bwC.jpeg
[20:22] <zxm-pi> i like the same account describing the pillow fight :-D


[21:29] <nizarus> ping boredandblogging
[23:07] <nizarus> ping boredandblogging
[23:10] <nizarus> ping mdz


[00:07] <jbicha> fossfreedom_: shouldn't visualspace be a separate package?
[06:28] <sunweaver> jbicha: I need some help...
[06:28] <sunweaver> jbicha: do you see instantly why https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nx-libs is not yet in the release pocket?
[06:29] <sunweaver> or is it a matter of time (it has been in proposed for 16h only)...
[06:46] <Unit193> sunweaver: Last I looked earlier today, depends on glibc which is having a transition.
[06:51] <Unit193> sunweaver: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/bionic/update_excuses.html#nx-libs
[06:53] <sunweaver> Unit193: so this means, it will be stuck in proposed until the transition is settle?
[06:57] <Unit193> sunweaver: I wouldn't think that'd take *too* long.
[07:02] <pitti> infinity: I'm afraid I don't have it any more; but robru wrote a better version in bileto: https://git.launchpad.net/bileto/tree/britney/fetch-indexes
[07:09] <tsimonq2> pitti: Could you update the wiki page?
[07:13] <pitti> tsimonq2: well, it's not a drop-in replacement, the script needs to be adjusted a bit to not run in bileto
[07:14] <alkisg> Hi, https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/all/openshot-qt/filelist ships a weird file called "/v8QpiHa9tC/xb59dA3xKQ"
[07:14] <alkisg> I'd normally just file a bug report about it, but it's strange that debian testing has the exact same version and that file isn't there, so I'm wondering if it's a problem with the builders?
[07:15] <tsimonq2> pitti: Sure; I were to take on the task of doing that, where could I put it?
[07:16] <pitti> tsimonq2: maybe into the britney2 git tree itself? my original version was just a slow PoC, so I didn't want to add that
[07:16] <tsimonq2> pitti: Oh, right. I wonder if I could integrate that right into Britney...
[07:16] <tsimonq2> pitti: Thanks.
[07:19] <tsimonq2> alkisg: That's weird. Maybe cjwatson has an idea?
[07:20] <alkisg> Also, I'm not seeing anything weird in debian/rules, I don't know what generates that file
[07:20] <tsimonq2> Right, there's nothing in the build logs.
[07:20] <tsimonq2> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/355931364/buildlog_ubuntu-bionic-amd64.openshot-qt_2.4.1-2_BUILDING.txt.gz
[08:10] <tsimonq2> alkisg: Looks like LocutusOfBorgg fixed it with a no-change rebuild.
[08:10] <alkisg> tsimonq2: cool, we'll never find out what the problem was but it's fine now :D
[08:11] <tsimonq2> :D
[08:36] <schout-it> don't know if this is the place to ask, but is there an official way to make a feature request for landscape (a warning when you plan an action in the past)
[08:57] <LocutusOfBorg> tsimonq2, alkisg false
[08:57] <LocutusOfBorg> drwx------ root/root         0 2018-02-26 07:34 ./VmLhlRqaww/
[08:57] <LocutusOfBorg> -rw------- root/root         0 2018-02-26 07:34 ./VmLhlRqaww/VzXuI70yCQ
[08:57] <LocutusOfBorg> just looked at the wrong directory
[08:57] <alkisg> Ah
[08:58] <alkisg> LocutusOfBorg: do you think the difference with debian is the build dir, e.g. /tmp vs / ?
[08:59] <LocutusOfBorg> who knows? :/
[08:59] <LocutusOfBorg> in pbuilder doesn't happen
[09:00] <tsimonq2> schout-it: Maybe contact Canonical Sales; afair Landscape is proprietary.
[09:00] <tsimonq2> LocutusOfBorg: ack :(
[09:00] <LocutusOfBorg> I want to find a tool to blame
[09:03] <blahdeblah> schout-it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/landscape
[09:19] <cjwatson> tsimonq2: Not a clue.  Very peculiar.
[09:19] <cjwatson> LocutusOfBorg: Have you tried a local sbuild?
[09:26] <infinity> drwx------ root/root         0 2018-02-05 13:41 ./XYPnyMzRcv/
[09:26] <infinity> -rw------- root/root         0 2018-02-05 13:41 ./XYPnyMzRcv/WAbPjD6CDt
[09:26] <infinity> (from a local sbuild build)
[09:29] <seb128> cjwatson, hey, the translations import I was waiting on have been done during the w.e, so it's all good now, thanks again for being responsive to my questions and checking the status!
[09:32] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: Confirmed that a local sbuild build in bionic reproduces it, and same sbuild but building in sid does not.  Most obvious place to go hunting would be pkgbinarymangler, which is Ubuntu-specific (and maybe not in your pbuilder chroots?)
[09:35] <cjwatson> seb128: ah good, I'd intended to check on that this morning so thanks
[09:35] <seb128> np!
[09:53] <santa_> stgraber: hi, you might want to have a look at this patch:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/1669578/comments/54, if you think it's correct I could try to send it upstream. btw thank you very much for your work on LXD and your nice blogs posts about it, it's an execellent tech for the stuff I'm working on
[10:07] <LocutusOfBorg> infinity, I confirm the same, I didn't get your message, but yeah, it is some ppkgbinaryfoo
[10:08] <LocutusOfBorg> I even did a find debian after dh_install and such files are not there http://debomatic-amd64.debian.net/distribution#bionic/openshot-qt/2.4.1-2build1/buildlog
[10:13] <LocutusOfBorg> infinity, I can repro in pbuilder now
[12:47] <coreycb> hello, can an archive admin review percona-xtradb-cluster-5.7 in the bionic NEW queue?
[13:02] <Woodpecker> Hey Qt Developer here; looking to update my skills, and need a project to contribute to. What has Ubuntu got brewing?
[13:16] <tsimonq2> Woodpecker: Depends on where you're looking :)
[13:17] <Woodpecker> well one thing I liked about ubuntu (Although Im sad they had to drop unity, as that was all qt), was the developers were willing to serve as references on my resume.
[13:17] <tsimonq2> coreycb: You might get more (relevant) eyes in #ubuntu-release ;)
[13:17] <tsimonq2> Woodpecker: UBPorts is still alive and well, fwiw
[13:18] <coreycb> tsimonq2: good point, thanks
[13:18] <Woodpecker> Im thinking it might be useful to learn a bit of C as well.
[13:19] <Woodpecker> tsimonq2: yeah I have ubuntu phone still installed on my phone. Although I was more interested in yunit. Seems a bit dead, and crossing that river that is Mir to Wayland... it sounds steep.
[13:20] <tsimonq2> Woodpecker: afaict Mir is working fine as a Wayland compositor...
[13:22] <Woodpecker> tsimonq2: excuse my language, but I am still pissed at how the bloody linux community treated ubuntu and canonical for deciding to use Mir.
[13:23] <Woodpecker> It worked remarkably well.
[13:23] <tsimonq2> Woodpecker: And yet development continues on ;)
[13:23] <Woodpecker> tsimonq2: for mir? you are kidding me?
[13:23] <tsimonq2> Nope, not kidding.
[13:23] <Woodpecker> o_O from canonical?
[13:23] <tsimonq2> It's going to be (if it isn't already) a Wayland compositor.
[13:23] <tsimonq2> Yes.
[13:24] <Woodpecker> How does the wayland project feel about this?
[13:24] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[13:25] <Woodpecker> tsimonq2: is it the same as what weston is to wayland?
[13:25] <Woodpecker> or is a reference compositor different?
[13:25] <tsimonq2> Not sure.
[13:25] <tsimonq2> I don't do much with Wayland myself.
[13:26] <Woodpecker> Hm; maybe that changes things for Yunit...
[13:28] <tsimonq2> Yunit? Probably not. Unity 8? Surely.
[13:28] <Woodpecker> Unity 8 is what Yunit forked so ???
[13:31] <Woodpecker> mmmmm maybe I have to go bug the ubports people https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Unity-8-On-Ubuntu-18.04 -- it sounds like they are handling unity 8 development
[14:27] <GunnarHj> Hi mvo, any thoughts on https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/4723#issuecomment-368475140 ?
[14:29] <mvo> GunnarHj: aha, its green! nice job
[14:29] <mvo> GunnarHj: let me quickly check the question
[14:30] <mvo> GunnarHj: let me followup on GH
[14:30] <GunnarHj> mvo: Ok.
[14:33] <mvo> GunnarHj: replied, thanks again for pushing this i18n fix forward
[14:57] <GunnarHj> mvo: Replied to your reply. I don't know if there is some other safe way to check if it really works but to get it in and build in Ubuntu. The "|| true" shouldn't really need to be there.
[14:57] <mvo> GunnarHj: cool
[14:57] <mvo> GunnarHj: thank you
[14:59] <mvo> GunnarHj: if you don't mind I can play with the PR, we build on ubuntu (14.04, 16.04) as part of the CI so if it builds without the build-dep I think we are fine. I can check the build, sometimes we had failures for unrelated reasons which might be confusing (e.g. issues with downloads from external sources)
[15:03] <smoser> I'm mostly just curious.  is there information available on when a package enters the archive?
[15:04] <GunnarHj> mvo: It ought to build without the build-dep, but then it would generate warnings about not understanding the file type and fail to extract the strings from the .policy files. Maybe I should add a local polkit.its file before you start "playing".
[15:04] <cjwatson> smoser: publishing history in LP?
[15:04] <smoser> as in teh first time that an appropriately configured 'apt-get install foo' would have that package/version available to it.
[15:04] <cjwatson> oh well that relies on mirroring timing and such and is in general more or less unknowable
[15:04] <smoser> mirrors can't be knowable, i'll accept that.
[15:04] <cjwatson> best you can do is what publishing history says plus a bit
[15:04] <smoser> but archive.ubuntu.com
[15:04] <cjwatson> archive.ubuntu.com is a mirror
[15:05] <smoser> fair.
[15:05] <smoser> so what is there in publishing history ? what time does that represent?
[15:06] <cjwatson> publishing history tells you when LP processed the publication as part of a publisher run; that's before it runs apt-ftparchive and triggers mirrors
[15:06] <cjwatson> timing information for the latter is only available in private log files
[15:07] <cjwatson> the next index file update after the published time given in publishing history is guaranteed to include the publication
[15:08] <smoser> ballpark time difference between those two things?
[15:09] <smoser> small minutes? hours? just curious.
[15:09] <mvo> GunnarHj: interessting, so polkit has some sort of plugin for gettext? do you know what file it is?
[15:10] <persia> smoser: Old information (~2010) was between 2 minutes and 12 hours, depending on the mirror.  Might be longer for private mirrors.
[15:10] <cjwatson> smoser: depends heavily on the number of publications being processed; typically ranges from small minutes to maybe most of an hour
[15:11] <cjwatson> for the master archive
[15:11] <cjwatson> as persia says mirrors other than archive.u.c could be much longer
[15:12] <smoser> thanks.  yeah, persia your-private-mirror could lag by days, so i'm not too concerned about that.  for this excercise i was most interested in when a cloud image would find it.
[15:12] <Laney> I usually ask rmadison for things that are going to hit ftpmaster
[15:12] <GunnarHj> mvo: The file is /usr/share/gettext/its/polkit.its. Or did I misunderstand your question?
[15:14] <mvo> GunnarHj: thanks, that was exactly what I was looking for! so my suggestion is to add this build-dep to the other files in packaging/ for rpm etc but only if you know how to do this, otherwise we just ask the packagers for suse/fedora etc for help
[15:14] <persia> smoser: Long ago, there used to be a constraint that if master wasn't updated in about 50 minutes, things would break.  That may have been fixed, but I would expect it to be usually less (just because fixing a race condition is rarely an excuse to make things slower).
[15:16] <GunnarHj> mvo: We'd need help from the other packagers, I suppose. But if we drop the build-dep, and instead put polkit.its in the source (the file is tiny), then we could do it without asking for help.
[15:17] <GunnarHj> mvo: I'd be happy to modify the PR in accordance with that.
[15:18] <smoser> Laney: where does rmadison get its data ? does it come from data downloaded from an archive?
[15:21] <Laney> smoser: I think basically it works because the machine it runs on gets a copy of dists/ from ftpmaster
[15:21] <cjwatson> correct
[15:22] <cjwatson> basically just rsync dists and then madison-lite
[15:22] <cjwatson> the machine it runs on has a cron job that tries to update itself every minute and then spawn off a load of other jobs if anything changed (though it will only update if those jobs aren't running, to avoid chaos)
[15:23] <mvo> GunnarHj: sounds good, lets put it in there if its tiny
[15:23] <cjwatson> ideally rmadison would run off a separate webservice so that it isn't tied to that kind of detail
[15:24] <smoser> thanks everyone.
[15:25] <smoser> xnox: bug 1751797 . is that known to you ?
[15:25] <smoser> i dont think i'd be the only one seeing that.
[15:25] <xnox> smoser, the title is too scary to open at the moment =)
[15:27]  * smoser changes subject to 'free candy or beer'
[15:28] <GunnarHj> mvo: Ok. It will take a while, because I want to test it locally first. ;)
[15:32] <mvo> GunnarHj: sure, no worries!
[16:21] <tsimonq2> rbasak: qt5 app> Are you sure you looked at the whole page? ;)  There's also syncs
[16:21]  * tsimonq2 has to get K9 Mail set up
[16:22] <rbasak> tsimonq2: I'm mostly interested in what you have had sponsored into Ubuntu that's relevant to your packageset request. I'd like to see a list of just those.
[16:23] <rbasak> tsimonq2: don't mind the other stuff being there, but I don't know how to find the bit that I do want right now.
[16:23] <rbasak> tsimonq2: and you probably know the list :)
[16:47] <tsimonq2> rbasak: sure
[16:49] <rbasak> tsimonq2: note that I'm not sure I'll be able to make all of the meeting today - hence the email.
[16:50] <tsimonq2> rbasak: sure; any other questions?
[17:00] <rbasak> tsimonq2: I haven't looked in detail yet, sorry.
[17:18] <tsimonq2> rbasak: OK, no rush, but there's always a chance there won't be quorum :)
[17:54] <tsimonq2> Speaking of quorum...  BenC bdmurray cyphermox micahg sorry for poking but it would be great to get quorum if possible ;)
[17:58] <oSoMoN> nacc, hey, I updated the debdiff attached to bug #1749920
[17:59] <nacc> oSoMoN: yep, reviewing it now
[17:59] <oSoMoN> excellent, thanks!
[17:59] <nacc> oSoMoN: thank you!
[18:00] <bdmurray> tsimonq2: I believe there is an outstanding question about your application which should be answered before we worry about quorum.
[18:00] <tsimonq2> Sure.
[18:04] <tsimonq2> If only the wiki would load...
[18:54] <tsimonq2> rbasak, bdmurray: Editing the wiki with a 3G connection on a phone is impossible; I can't even log in... the ubuntu1 uploads in those tables are the ones that should be referred to, and if I could edit the wiki I could.
[18:54] <tsimonq2> Surely it isn't a blocker, right?
[18:56] <tsimonq2> Actually, it seems acheronuk edited the wiki for me \o/
[18:56] <tsimonq2> So it should be good
[18:57] <acheronuk> I hate editing wiki tables, so I hope no uploads went missing!
[18:58] <tsimonq2> Hah it should be fine
[19:02] <rbasak> tsimonq2: I'm afraid it's a blocker for me because it's one of the primary ways I assess applications. I can't speak for the others, and of course if I won't be here to vote it won't matter.
[19:02] <rbasak> ("it" being my opinion)
[19:02] <tsimonq2> rbasak: Is it better now?
[19:02] <rbasak> !dmb-ping
[19:03] <rbasak> tsimonq2: it doesn't look any different?
[19:04] <tsimonq2> rbasak: There is now a third table towards the bottom
[19:05] <tsimonq2> It's hiding but it's there :)
[20:32] <nicebu> just for logs: https://pastebin.com/nmdRUY6h   -   dax aka rww aka ro aka pweh aka rw aka dax_ doxed  Robert William Wall<EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>freenode operator ubuntu
[20:32] <nicebu> just for logs: https://pastebin.com/nmdRUY6h   -   dax aka rww aka ro aka pweh aka rw aka dax_ doxed  Robert William Wall<EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>freenode operator ubuntu
[20:33] <nicebu> dox reason: being an asshole to freenode users
[22:00] <tsimonq2> ugh
[22:00] <tsimonq2> anyways
[22:02] <tsimonq2> bdmurray: I updated my wiki with the diffs asked for, but I feel like I need to generally be a bit more verbose; I'll follow up on the list ewhen it's better


[13:31] <lamont> doko: should I expect pycentral to deal with creating python2.5 packages for me?
[13:37] <doko> lamont: the package has to be set up to actually build for 2.5
[13:39] <lamont> ah, ok
[13:39] <lamont> got any examples of things building with both?
[13:39] <lamont> 2.4 and 2.5, that is
[13:39] <lamont> and time for this one to run kids to school.
[13:39] <lamont> offline for about an hour.
[19:06] <jbailey> doko: 2.7-3ubuntu1 bulit fine on sparc, but 2.7-4ubuntu1 has a segfault in as.  Was there a binutils update in there that I missed, or a gcc update or something?
[19:06] <jbailey> Otherwise I think you broke something in the update.
[19:20] <doko> jbailey: no other update; it did build fine on a t1000, I'll reschedule it, assuming it's the machine ...
[19:21] <jbailey> 'k


[19:50] <heydo> hello everyone
[19:52] <heydo> is internet free in iran
[19:54] <heydo> ubuntu is free :)


[00:17] <veebers> Saviq: if you're still around I have another unity/unity-mir question
[00:32] <Saviq> veebers, just ask, I'll answer next time I'm around the keyboard :)
[00:34] <veebers> Saviq: good point :-) looking at OSKController, enabled is a boolean of if the surface is set or not, it appears that if you stop maliit-server that surface isn't destroyed meaning enabled stays True. Any pointers on how I would go about ensureing that changes when maliit-server stops?
[00:36] <Saviq> veebers, its surface not destroyed? that'd be bad... that's what onSurfaceDestroyed is supposed to do
[00:36] <Saviq> veebers, if you can confirm that doesn't happen, we should fix that
[00:36] <Saviq> veebers, please file bug against unity-mir
[00:37] <Saviq> veebers, in OSKController.qml:30 there's the connections with SurfaceManager
[00:37] <veebers> Saviq: right, that's where I would expect the surface to be set to null
[00:38] <Saviq> veebers, if that never happens → bug, please file against unity-mir
[00:38] <veebers> Saviq: ack, thanks
[00:43] <veebers> Saviq: one more question :-) Can I log an event in the qml to the unity.log? i.e. I want to log "Setting/Unsetting surface" messages to confirm, at the moment I'm just introspecting through python and I don't see that property change
[01:04] <Saviq> veebers, console.log
[01:05] <Saviq> veebers, console.log("Blah") - the usual JS way
[01:05] <veebers> Saviq: I tried that initially, nothing showed up in ~/.cache/upstart/unity8.log
[01:05] <veebers> perhaps I'm doing something dumb, will try again
[01:06] <Saviq> veebers, well, if they're not called - that's when it wouldn't show up...
[01:06] <Saviq> veebers, if you're editing on device
[01:06] <veebers> Saviq: I can modify the qml in /usr/lib/ . ..  and just restart unity right?
[01:06] <Saviq> veebers, yeah
[01:06] <veebers> Saviq: yeah, well I'm sure the setting one is called
[01:06] <Saviq> /usr/lib/*/qt5/imports/Unity-Mir/
[01:07] <Saviq> veebers, you can also go onEnabledChanged: console.log("Enabled:", enabled)
[01:07] <Saviq> which will print "Enabled: false" / "Enabled: true" on change
[01:08] <veebers> Saviq: nice, thanks
[02:17] <veebers> Saviq: FYI: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-mir/+bug/1248795
[08:36] <tsdgeos> michi__: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity-api/cmake_warning--/+merge/194148
[08:56]  * tsdgeos shakes fist at the new js engine thingie
[08:57] <tsdgeos> QDEBUG : qmltestrunner::test_source(Source.model) a MockModel(0xb1d930) b MockModel(0xb1d930) a == b false
[08:57] <tsdgeos> oh really?
[09:10] <tsdgeos> sad thing is i can't repro in a small testcase
[09:54] <tsdgeos> Saviq: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity-api/52regressions/+merge/194303
 Are you there? (not sure if that's a list of online people. Second time I use IRC ever)
[10:28] <Saviq> tsdgeos, rright :/
[10:30] <pabloff9> bregma: Are you there? (not sure if that's a list of online people. Second time I use IRC ever)
[10:30] <tsdgeos> pabloff9: it's a list of people on the server, doesn't mean he's in from on his keyboard though :D
[10:30] <tsdgeos> pabloff9: no need to keep repeating every 2 minutes either
[10:30] <pabloff9> tsdgeos: that's because I typed it wrong. I used < > instead of :
[10:31] <pabloff9> tsdgeos: but thanks
[10:34] <Saviq> pabloff9, either way, bregma is in Canada, so fast asleep I imagine
[10:36] <pabloff9> Saviq: Oh, ok. Maybe someone else can help me. Anyone knows anything about what kind of data Firefox expects to be dropped to a HTML5 dragand-drop file upload area? (like Gmail composer)
[10:36] <pabloff9> Saviq: I know it doesn't seem unity-related, but it is.
[10:41] <Saviq> pabloff9, well... it does sound like a Firefox question more... and no, no idea here
[10:43] <Saviq> tsdgeos, https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/singleton_52/+merge/194123 is superseded then?
[10:43] <pabloff9> Saviq: it's because I'm trying to fix a bug in Unity. It doesn't seem to support file upload by drag and drop in Firefox (haven't tested Chrome or others) while Nautilus can. It looks like Firefox understands both drops as different things, since if you drop a file from Nautilus to the address bar, it displays the address, but from Unity, it displays a lot of Japanese/Chinese characters.
[10:44] <pabloff9> Saviq: I'd guess a encoding problem, but I don't know.
[10:45] <tsdgeos> Saviq: unity8 vs unity-api
[10:45] <Saviq> tsdgeos, d'oh
[10:55] <greyback> note for all: I'm working from home today, and my wifi is spotty at best, so if you need me, email is best
[10:56] <Saviq> 1st world problems...
[11:23] <tsdgeos> Saviq: so mzanetti added https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity8/+bug/1235268 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity8/+bug/1200374 to the list of bugfixes that are missing a test
[11:23] <tsdgeos> i'm not sure how/if we want to add tests for those tbh
[11:23] <tsdgeos> ideas?
[11:26] <tsdgeos> for the first one i can make a test that expands the thing, but that has "nothing to do" with where the real bug was, which is in Qt
[11:27] <tsdgeos> and for the second one not sure how to code the "should not see it expand" tbh
[12:00] <Saviq> tsdgeos, he's been doing a quick run-through, so don't hesitate to counter him on that :)
[12:00] <Saviq> tsdgeos, was there a test added with the Qt fix?
[12:02] <Saviq> tsdgeos, and the only thing for the other one - you could arguably check that the height changes in one go, and animates when visible... but then it's probably a pretty flaky test to start with
[12:02] <tsdgeos> Saviq: yeah i don't want more flacky tests
[12:02] <tsdgeos> Saviq: unfortunately could not find a testcase for the Qt fix, so they accepted it without testcase and based on my argumentation of the backtrace+code
[12:03] <tsdgeos> Saviq: now taht i have you here, i've been thinking about merging GenericScopeView and ScopeView (which is actually GenericGenericScopeView)
[12:03] <tsdgeos> since we don't seem to use ScopeView anywhere else than in tests
[12:04] <tsdgeos> everything else is a GenericScopeView
[12:04] <tsdgeos> so not sure it makes sense to have that split
[12:04] <Saviq> tsdgeos, doesn't DashApps.qml / DashHome.qml use it?
[12:04] <tsdgeos> nope
[12:04] <tsdgeos> they are GenericScopeViews
[12:04] <Saviq> ah no
[12:04] <Saviq> tsdgeos, complete +1
[12:04] <tsdgeos> oka
[12:05] <tsdgeos> Saviq: no autopilot14 yet?
[12:05] <Saviq> tsdgeos, the fact that tests use FakeScopeView is problematic in its own right
[12:05] <Saviq> tsdgeos, doesn't look like it :/
[12:05] <tsdgeos> ok
[12:05] <tsdgeos> yep, wil try to use less fakes while merging the stuff
[12:16] <Saviq> tsdgeos, image #14 is out, contains ap 1.4, so once we get green results from that we can unleash the MPs
[12:16] <tsdgeos> \o/
[12:32] <nic-doffay> Saviq, can we trigger rebuilds of our branches that need landing today?
[12:32] <Saviq> nic-doffay, -ci, yes, landing - not yet
[12:32] <nic-doffay> Saviq, good enough I suppose!
[12:33] <Saviq> nic-doffay, which one do you have in mind?
[12:33] <nic-doffay> Saviq, the search history.
[12:34] <Saviq> nic-doffay, rebuild triggered
[12:36] <nic-doffay> Saviq, cheers
[12:52] <mzanetti> Saviq: hey
[12:52] <mzanetti> Saviq: nope, no gmail
[12:53] <Saviq> mzanetti, so you couldn't even contact the travel agency yet? you didn't get no travel req confirmation?
[12:53] <Saviq> mzanetti, I'll try and get that sorted then
[12:53] <mzanetti> Saviq: yep
[12:54] <Saviq> mzanetti, thanks
[12:54] <mzanetti> Saviq: admittedly I only did the request on tuesday morning
[12:54] <mzanetti> but so far nothing here
[12:54] <Saviq> ah, so maybe kgunn didn't approve yet
[12:55] <Saviq> mzanetti, thanks, will get that sorted for you
[12:55] <mzanetti> Saviq: ok. I'll check mails every now and then and book the flight asap
[12:55] <Saviq> mzanetti, thanks
[12:56] <Saviq> mzanetti, msm is forwarding you the approval now
[12:56] <Saviq> must've gotten lost somewhere
[13:07] <mzanetti> Saviq: ok. sent the mail to bts travel. Will go for a walk now and confirm the flight in a couple of hours
[13:07] <Saviq> mzanetti, cheers
[13:41] <mhr3> sil2100, any progress on bringing zmqpp and capnp to trusty?
[13:49] <sil2100> mhr3: capnp package is ready, I will ask for review today to see how it looks
[13:49] <sil2100> mhr3: you can try it out if it works from ppa:sil2100/ppa
[13:51] <mhr3> sil2100, it failed to build in the ppa
[13:52] <sil2100> mhr3: ah, ok, deps changed, righto
[13:52]  * sil2100 missed that
[13:52] <mhr3> sil2100, and anywhere to find zmqpp?
[13:53] <sil2100> mhr3: it's almost ready here too, but I didn't push it anywhere yet - I guess there is chance I'll have it for review today too
[13:59] <Cimi> the osk does not work on my trusty phone, yours'
[13:59] <Saviq> tsdgeos, we've got green light - /me is back at pushing one after another
[13:59] <Saviq> Cimi, just updated to #14, works fine
[13:59] <tsdgeos> \o/
[14:00] <Cimi> Saviq, I diet-upgraded fromr10
[14:00] <Cimi> *dist
[14:00] <Cimi> ahha this autocorrection is hilarous
[14:00] <Saviq> ;)
[14:02] <Cimi> Saviq, how do you flash 14?
[14:02] <Cimi> Saviq, my phablet-flash only finds 10
[14:02] <Saviq> Cimi, trusty-proposed
[14:02] <Cimi> Saviq, works thx
[14:03] <Saviq> Cimi, `system-image-cli -v -b0 -c trusty-proposed` as root on phone if you don't want to lose data
[14:10] <didrocks> mhall119: hey, are you taking care of putting people back to uds-organizer team? As there is no tech board, there is no way to ask for renewal
[14:10] <didrocks> mhall119: and if you want people to schedule the blueprints… :p
[14:11] <mhall119> didrocks: I'm not sure what uds-organizer is used for anymore, but just being a track lead in summit will allow you to schedule
[14:11] <didrocks> mhall119: ok, I'll try, thanks!
[14:24] <Cimi> Saviq, no osk for me on r14 with SF
[14:27] <Saviq> Cimi, ah, sf
[14:27] <Saviq> Cimi, /me tries
[14:28] <tsdgeos> errr
[14:28] <tsdgeos> can you guys connect to mumble?
[14:28] <Cimi> yes
[14:28] <dandrader> tsdgeos, no
[14:28] <tsdgeos> it's telling me the password is wrong :-S
[14:29] <dandrader> tsdgeos, "Wrong certificate or password"
[14:29] <tsdgeos> yeah
[14:29] <Saviq> Cimi, something's wrong indeed
[14:44] <Cimi> Saviq, are we supposed to fix it?
[14:45] <Saviq> Cimi, no, sf is decommissioned, really
[14:45] <Cimi> Saviq, but maguro is too slow with mir
[14:45] <Saviq> Cimi, yes, maguro is being decommissioned, too
[14:46] <Saviq> Cimi, it's just not a feasible target any more
[14:46] <dandrader> Saviq, so, can we have https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/drag-crash-1228336/+merge/192183 in now? can we? can we?
[14:48] <Saviq> dandrader, I'm just going through my list chronologically, so yes - I'll get to it :)
[14:51] <Cimi> Saviq, I auto approved this, is it fine? https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/unity8/fix-1231996/+merge/192372
[14:52] <Saviq> Cimi, it's got a +1 from mzanetti, so I think so, yes
[14:53] <Saviq> Cimi, ah you merged trunk in the mean time - I'll have a look before merging
[15:06] <Saviq> tsdgeos, https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/no_hswipe_if_vswipe_test/+merge/193401/comments/448326 look like legitimate failures in qml tests
[15:06] <tsdgeos> Saviq: hmmm ok, i'll check
[15:08] <mhall119> didrocks: we don't give full scheduling powers out anymore
[15:08] <mhall119> track leads get control over their track, but only their track
[15:23] <didrocks> mhall119: I don't have control on my track in the case I gave
[15:24] <didrocks> mhall119: something not linked to any track schedule on my track
[15:24] <didrocks> I can't move it if there is a conflict (and I'm happy to have it on my track, just can't reschedule it)
[15:27] <mhall119> didrocks: if the session is assigned to your track, regardless of what room it's in, you should be able to move it
[15:27] <mhall119> if the session isn't assigned to your track....then it's not your session :)
[15:53] <nic-doffay> mzanetti, any idea where the date text that's apparently on the greeter is? I can't see anything in Greeter.qml
[15:53] <Saviq> nic-doffay, mzanetti is on holidays
[15:53] <Saviq> nic-doffay, but: GreeterContent.qml
[15:53] <nic-doffay> Saviq, is it Clock in GreeterContent.qml?
[15:54] <Saviq> nic-doffay, the name suggests so...
[15:57] <nic-doffay> pete-woods, is there any way to use fake data for the infographic in unity8 any more?
[15:57] <nic-doffay> Not seeing anything in the CODING doc.
[15:57] <nic-doffay> pete-woods, although I see -f is still present in run
[15:57] <nic-doffay> pete-woods, is that dated?
[15:58] <nic-doffay> I mean it works, but I was wondering if there was a newer approach.
[16:03] <pete-woods> nic-doffay: hi, I haven't done anything to unity8 in a while now, so that stuff is all there is
[16:04] <pete-woods> nic-doffay: you can always manually create data sources with the cli tools in the  libusermetrics-tools package
[16:04] <nic-doffay> pete-woods, ok. Quick one then, I'd just like to make the circles bigger. Which mock cpp file contains this functionality?
[16:04] <nic-doffay> Just temp to test a bug fix.
[16:05] <pete-woods> nic-doffay: tests/mocks/libusermetrics/UserMetrics.cpp
[16:07] <nic-doffay> ta pete-woods
[16:07] <pete-woods> np
[16:18] <tsdgeos> Saviq: ok, failures confirmed here, i did not run the tests after merging to trunk last time
[16:26] <nic-doffay> Saviq, can we merge yet?
[16:28] <tsdgeos> nic-doffay: he's on it
[16:30] <nic-doffay> tsdgeos, cool
[16:36] <fginther> Saviq, are you still processing the unity8 merges manually?
[16:37] <fginther> Saviq, if should people just ask you directly for merging a branch?
[16:39] <Saviq> fginther, yeah, but I'm feeling like we could start auto-merge now
[16:40] <Saviq> fginther, we're down to some 10 approved branches, and by now I'm not doing more than just start them in order
[16:40] <Saviq> fginther, so if you could enable the branch "scanner" for us, that'd be cool
[16:40] <fginther> Saviq, doing so now
[16:42] <Saviq> fginther, thanks
[16:51] <didrocks> Saviq: yep, please remerge, you are green :)
[16:54] <mhr3> does anyone know what is BottomBarVisibilityComunicatorShell?
[16:55] <Saviq> mhr3, yeah...
[16:56] <Saviq> mhr3, it's a nasty hack to sync the apps' toolbar and the hud
[16:56] <mhr3> Saviq, pls pls tell me it's some nastiness that is no longer required
[16:56] <Saviq> mhr3, unfortunately it still is
[16:57] <Saviq> mhr3, we need it to make the toolbar hide when HUD goes on screen
[16:57] <mhr3> :/
[16:58] <Saviq> mhr3, we basically need a communication channel with the apps, I'm leaning towards creating something that'll go through the mir, a simple message-based protocol
[16:58] <Saviq> +socket
[16:58] <Saviq> instead of building more and more out-of-band interfaces for all kinds of things
[16:58] <mhr3> Saviq, i'm just wondering cause it's in the unity plugin, and the only things in the unity plugin are scopes-related
[16:59] <Saviq> mhr3, oh yeah, needs to go out of there for sure
[16:59] <Saviq> mhr3, it's been put there 'cause it was the only plugin we had at that time, more or less
[16:59] <Saviq> lesser evil, you know
[16:59] <mhr3> Saviq, speaking about that, once the plugin is out, are we going to change how unity8 is built?
[17:00] <Saviq> mhr3, meaning?
[17:00] <mhr3> a separate pkg etc
[17:01] <mhr3> would be nice if bzr did subrepos
[17:01] <Saviq> mhr3, separate package for unity-scopes-shell, yes
[17:01] <Saviq> mhr3, that unity8 would depend on
[17:02] <Saviq> mhr3, so you'd just build the plugin yourself, we'd just depend on it
[17:02] <mhr3> Saviq, is there a way to still have the plugin private to unity?
[17:02] <Saviq> mhr3, yeah, install it in the unity8 imports dir
[17:02] <mhr3> Saviq, you know... we dont want apps to just import Unity and start doing crazy things
[17:02] <mhr3> ah, that simple? :)
[17:02] <Saviq> mhr3, we need a .pc file that will direct you to
[17:02] <mhr3> k
[17:03] <mhr3> will push it today
[17:03] <mhr3> hopefully
[17:03] <Saviq> mhr3, yeah, and apparmor will prevent the apps from loading those, even if they wanted to
[17:03] <mhr3> Saviq, thomas was also asking how would we go about a separate dash app
[17:04] <Saviq> mhr3, separate binary pkg out of lp:unity8 I'd say
[17:04] <mhr3> Saviq, with this setup it could theoretically be a simple-ish click pkg, right?
[17:04] <Saviq> mhr3, well... but then it'd need access to the scope plugin again
[17:04] <Saviq> mhr3, but sure, it could be clickified
[17:04] <mhr3> right, it's just include it i guess
[17:05] <Saviq> mhr3, if it brought the libs with it
[17:05] <mhr3> he just wanted something that allows testing and doesn't massively break unity
[17:09] <Saviq> mhr3, let's just strive for not doing that, and once we get to the point when we're risking that happening, we'll think of a solution :)
[17:10] <mhr3> Saviq, +1, yea, i thought that was the idea


[08:17] <BHSPitMonkey> I love you all.
[08:19] <nixternal> ahh, and we love you too!
[08:28] <troy_s> freaks.
[09:19] <coz_> any inkscape expert here? :)
[02:52] <Linediconsine> HI ! Where I can find the fond of the ubuntu logo ?
[02:54] <Linediconsine> the font
[02:54] <Linediconsine> (I need to make a splash screen for the ubuntu media center project so I want to use.. if there is the ufficial font)
[03:01] <Linediconsine> I found it http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/x11/ttf-ubuntu-title


[09:12] <zaki> pavlushka, I'm facing a issue. I need libcurl 3 and 4 both but I can't install them both
[09:12] <zaki> if I install 4 it removes 3 automatically
[09:12] <zaki> I tried this https://launchpad.net/~xapienz/+archive/ubuntu/curl34
[09:13] <u-la-la> [ Curl 3 and 4 : Evgeny Brazgin ] - launchpad.net
[11:14] <zaki> pavlushka, after doing the trick
[11:14] <zaki> my libcurl3 app works fine , but i'm facing another issue
[11:14] <zaki> curl: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4: version `CURL_OPENSSL_4' not found (required by curl)
[14:08] <remonshai> hey.. are you here?
[14:08] <pavlushka> remonshai: good, you?
[14:08] <remonshai> good :)
[14:09] <remonshai> mattermost এ ঢুকেনা কেন? Certificate Error  দেখাচ্ছে।
[14:13] <remonshai> https://imgur.com/quHWRVu
[14:13] <u-la-la> [ Imgur: The magic of the Internet ] - imgur.com
[14:14] <pavlushka> remonshai: certificate trust করলেই হল
[14:15] <pavlushka> remonshai: and also which browser?
[14:15] <remonshai> সেটা করেছি, কিন্তু এমনটি হওয়ার কারন কি?
[14:15] <pavlushka> remonshai: which browser?
[14:15] <remonshai> mattermost apps
[14:16] <pavlushka> remonshai: app version?
[14:17] <remonshai> 4.3.2
[14:17] <pavlushka> remonshai: desktop app?
[14:17] <remonshai> y
[14:18] <pavlushka> remonshai: you can just use a browser, will cost you only a new tab.
[14:19] <remonshai> yes... that's cool


[02:04] <helloicanseeu> hi, how to setup dpms using 'xset' for secondary monitor in dual monitors
[05:39] <nexus> Can anyone please help me out installing .net framework 2 or 4 with wine on ubuntu. I am stuck with it. Everything appears to be fine with installation but it is not installed successfully
[06:08] <M0hi> ne
[06:08] <M0hi> err
[06:09] <M0hi> he left :{
[09:09] <benonsoftware> Question: How do I make a C# program in Ubuntu?
[09:09] <coalwater> i think there's mono...
[09:10] <benonsoftware> coalwater: Ahhh. Mono doesn't work for me
[09:10] <coalwater> well, i never used it, i just read about it
[09:11] <coalwater> http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page
[09:11] <coalwater> i dont know if there's a package for ubuntu
[12:56] <stlsaint> HEYO
[12:56] <stlsaint> opps
[13:55] <kristian-aalborg> hi all
[13:56] <kristian-aalborg> I want to run a few X desktops... one with a terminal, one with ncmpc and one with vlc... what's the proper approach?
[14:00] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: what are you doing?
[14:01] <holstein> seems like you might not need x depending on what you need vlc for
[14:01] <holstein> theres a commandline vlc - cvlc... you could just run what you want in screen, and connect back to it whenever
[14:04] <kristian-aalborg> holstein, media center... my greatest hack so far, I hope
[14:05] <kristian-aalborg> I need X for the movies... I also think I can get a slightly less aliased term/ncmpc
[14:05] <kristian-aalborg> but the green Terminus will look killer on the TV :)
[14:06] <holstein> screen is the trick though... you set up ssh there, and connect in from whatever machine you want
[14:06] <holstein> get whatever playing in ncmpc inside screen, and ssh to the box from anywhere and reconnect
[14:09] <kristian-aalborg> screen is awesome
[14:09] <kristian-aalborg> and yes, the functionality I want can be done by screen
[14:09] <kristian-aalborg> ... but the "X" is the problem so far
[14:09] <holstein> if it has to be in the GUI, i would just use the workspaces
[14:09] <kristian-aalborg> of what WM?
[14:09] <kristian-aalborg> also, I don't want to use mouse
[14:10] <holstein> whatever
[14:10] <kristian-aalborg> sounds like a new WM, is it coded by hipsters? :P
[14:10] <holstein> its going to be challenging to use any of the major WM's without a mouse
[14:10] <kristian-aalborg> matchbox is cool
[14:11] <holstein> i use synergy with my netbook
[14:26] <kristian-aalborg> http://linux.dsplabs.com.au/gnu-screen-screenrc-configuration-file-p13/
[14:26] <kristian-aalborg> yummy
[15:21] <kristian-aalborg> openbox will do what I want
[15:51] <samsul> Hello everybody uot there....
[15:51] <samsul> is there anyone here?
[15:53] <IAmNotThatGuy> !ask | samsul
[15:53] <ubot2> samsul: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[16:00] <samsul> okay, here is the question.. is Ubuntu can be bootabel from extend partition?
[16:03] <IAmNotThatGuy> samsul, extended partition?
[16:03] <IAmNotThatGuy> can you elaborate it? sorry for being late
[16:07] <samsul> yeah, the primary partition was full (4 partition)
[16:07] <Abhijit> samsul, yes it is.
[16:08] <IAmNotThatGuy> samsul, you can install an operating system in the primary partition of a hard disk. if you have another HDD, you can do in its primary partition. but not in logical partitions I believe
[16:08] <samsul> or, i should install Ubuntu without swap partition?
[16:09] <IAmNotThatGuy> swap is like a virtual RAM samsul
[16:11] <samsul> Do you mean i can not install an operating system in logical partition...
[16:11] <IAmNotThatGuy> samsul, all your primary partitions are used by other OS?
[16:11] <samsul> and we can not run Linux system without swap?
[16:11] <samsul> yes,
[16:12] <IAmNotThatGuy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/forum/installation/Partitioning according to that you can
[16:13] <IAmNotThatGuy> samsul, please take a look and say whether  it clarifies your query
[16:14] <samsul> okay, i'll check it. Thanks IAmNotThatGuy..
[16:14] <IAmNotThatGuy> (:
[16:16] <coalwater> who said linux needed swap
[16:16] <coalwater> as long as u have enough ram its fin
[16:16] <coalwater> fine
[16:17] <coalwater> IAmNotThatGuy, you could try swapoff on terminal :D lol
[16:17] <coalwater> anyway, im going home :D see u guys later
[16:17] <IAmNotThatGuy> coalwater, I never mentioned that he needs a swap
[16:17] <IAmNotThatGuy> :P
[16:17] <coalwater> o ok :D
[16:17] <coalwater> lol
[16:18] <coalwater> anyway :D im free :D
[16:18] <IAmNotThatGuy> coalwater, dont sleep :P
[16:18] <samsul> i said
[16:18] <samsul> i was asking...
[16:18] <coalwater> why not IAmNotThatGuy
[16:19] <IAmNotThatGuy> samsul, /ignore coalwater :D
[16:19] <coalwater> lol
[16:19] <samsul> :D
[17:33] <yuler> After a delay, my system is setup to screen lock, then power off the monitor.  Upon reactivating, sometimes the screen is readable for a few seconds, then the screen lock dialogue box activates.  How do I fix it?
[18:15] <samsul> yuler : may be you sould deactive lock screen..
[18:16] <IAmNotThatGuy> yuler, whats your OS version?
[18:24] <holstein> yuler: i disable screen lock
[18:26] <yuler> Ubuntu 10.10 (with updates).  I'd like to keep both screen lock and monitor power off.
[18:30] <holstein> yuler: so, the problem is the little splash of the screen when you return?
[18:31] <holstein> i would probably stick with the LTS for things like that... but i have to say, im not sure if 10.04 does that or not
[18:32] <holstein> i suppose you should try to isolate the graphics driver
[18:33] <holstein> maybe see if you see the same behavior using the VESA driver
[18:38] <yuler> I'm using the latest proprietary Nvidia driver for the 6200 vidcard
[18:51] <holstein> yuler: have you witnessed the behavior with the vesa driver?
[18:53] <yuler> No, because I don't know how to make VESA drivers active in Ubuntu.
[18:53] <holstein> yuler: i would probably use a live CD, and use safe graphics mode
[18:54] <yuler> That sounds easy enough.
[18:55] <yuler> I'll check back when I've tested that.
[18:55] <holstein> otherwise, you'll be dealing with a proprietary driver bug
[18:55] <holstein> that'll be challenging to deal with...
[18:56] <yuler> Thanks.  Will do.
[18:57] <tester> hi there I delete ubiquity because it skiped the username and password part
[18:57] <tester> is there a way to re-install
[18:58] <holstein> tester: however you feel comfortable dealing with packages should be fine... synaptic or the software center or sudo apt-get install ubiquity
[19:12] <tester> thanks
[19:52] <bobweaver> it still keeps on not letting me change username and password
[19:52] <philipballew> is kde or gnome more powerful?
[19:53] <bobweaver> ok it still wont let me enter username and password
[19:58] <AndrewMC> philipballew: KDE will use more resources then GNOME will, I personally prefer GNOME
[19:59] <philipballew> AndrewMC, haha, my comp has 1 gig of ram. i might try xfce, or something


[08:00] <emboss> How did the release party go?
[08:31] <slashtommy> good, had about 9 or 10 people in total
[09:03] <tdr112> good fun
[09:08] <ebel> Some photos of dublin release party http://www.flickr.com/photos/rorymccann/sets/72157629931484929/
[09:08] <emboss> cool
[09:09] <zmoylan> kicking myself with good leg that i wasn't able to make it :-/
[09:10] <emboss> Like the debian t-shirt
[09:10] <emboss> That pub looks really nice
[09:10] <emboss> must try get over there for a pint midweek
[09:11] <ebel> The beer is good, but the accoustics are terrible. it's very loud
[09:11]  * slashtommy would be responsible for the debian t-shirt
[09:11] <emboss> ebel: Your not the first person to say this
[09:12] <slashtommy> however, the coppercoast and blackrock from dungarvan are very nice
[09:12]  * emboss loves the dungarvan coffee and oatmeal stout
[09:13] <emboss> Think it's seasonal tho
[09:13] <slashtommy> i didn't know they did one
[09:13] <emboss> Yep, just in the winter months IIRC
[09:14] <slashtommy> i know o'haras try and throw out a few speciality casks occassionaly
[09:14] <slashtommy> not so impressed with the o'haras casks tbh
[09:15] <emboss> have you ever been to the craft beer co in london?
[09:15] <slashtommy> craft beer co?
[09:16] <emboss> http://thecraftbeerco.com/
[09:16] <emboss> It's a little bit out of the way
[09:16] <slashtommy> britain is pretty well catered for when it comes to beer
[09:16] <emboss> but besides all the amazing beers, they have the most tasty crisps I've ever tasted
[09:17] <slashtommy> been saying to ebel that i need to take him to a camra beer festival sometime
[09:19] <emboss> There's one in numberg i've been meanting to get to but the last few times i've been in germany i've ended up wine tasting in landau
[09:20] <emboss> if you're ever over that way
[09:20] <emboss> http://www.landbierparadies.com/
[09:20] <emboss> it's a small chain of pubs
[09:20] <emboss> they're only allowed sell beers from breweries than sell less than x
[09:21] <emboss> the food and beer is amazing
[09:21] <emboss> when your finsihed your beer you turn the glass sideways on the table and they bring you another straight away
[19:44] <airurando> off topic: does anyone know where I could purchase a prepaid sim card with a modest data allowance to work in majorca on an emobile HTC desire?
[19:45] <zmoylan> wouldn't the emobile phone need to be unlocked first?
[19:48] <zmoylan> http://www.prepaidgsm.net/forum/spain-portugal/5322-prepaid-data-spain-7.html
[19:50] <airurando> zmoylan: Thanks for that.  I was wondering about the need to unlock.  does anyone know either way?
[19:51] <zmoylan> i've sent an old phone to a mate in the uk.  it needed to be unlocked as it wouldn't work over there without that.  they could have unlocked it but i preferred to send it unlocked as they were on a very tight budget.
[19:51] <zmoylan> the quick way to test is to put in a sim from a different network and see if you can setup the apn and get gsm and 3g data.
[19:52] <zmoylan> the htc is a common manufacturer so i reckon it should be cheap to unlock. (hope i'm right)  go to nearest shopping centre and ask at phone accessories booth (they seem to be in every shopping centre) and they'll tell you.
[19:55] <zmoylan> best going prearmed but i reckon such a touristy area would have english speaking staff in shops who'll sell a prepay sim.  i WOULD bring the apn settings from all the major networks in spain with me on a piece of paper or text file as i wouldn't want to use tech support or an mobile not connected to the internet to get them
[19:55] <airurando> zmoylan: as always, thanks for the sound advice.
[19:56] <zmoylan> no worries.
[19:57] <zmoylan> the first time you switch networks on a phone it can be a chore.  my uk mate got most it working easily enough but had to ring uk tech support to get sms working as they couldn't sort the sms message centre wackiness.
[20:04] <airurando> I don't really care about sms.  I would like the ability to make a few calls to Ireland and have modest data download for a two week period without punitive costs.
[20:04] <zmoylan> sms might be important for network messages.  ie you've exceeded data limit and we're sucking your credit
[20:05] <zmoylan> not to be ruled out.
[20:13] <airurando> zmoylan: thanks again. I am incompetent when it comes to this and many other things.
[20:13] <airurando> it should not be soooo difficult.
[20:14] <zmoylan> phone companies would love to eliminate the sims and sell phones that only work on their network.  apple is moving towards this goal with microsims
[20:15] <airurando> aye
[20:42] <airurando> pix.ie is only showing 1 of my 5 uploads of the release party
[20:43] <airurando> that will have to wait until tomorrow.
[20:43] <airurando> nn


 Qt 5.15 released.
 @kc2bez [The @tsimonq2 spam bot is working well! I like it.], LOL
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[00:24] <teward> well
[00:24] <teward> looks like the CI notices work
[00:24] <teward> tsimonq2: ^
[00:24] <teward> #LetTheSpamBegin ? :P
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[01:45] <teward> well
[01:45] <teward> at least we know CI isn't busted xD
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[18:44] <tsimonq2> o/
[18:45] <tsimonq2> Looks like the nightly didn't run last night O_o
[18:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T164: Community Feedback Survey] profetik777 (profetik777) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T164#3534
[18:48] <wxl> the which?
[18:48] <tsimonq2> wxl: jobgenerator on ci.l.c
[18:48] <tsimonq2> That's "the nightly."
[18:49] <wxl> oh
[18:49] <tsimonq2> Because, well, you guessed it, it runs every 24 hours, at night.
[18:49] <tsimonq2> :P
[18:49] <wxl> i thought we suddenly renamed the daily the nightly
[18:49] <tsimonq2> Nope.
[18:49] <tsimonq2> Not yet.
[18:49] <tsimonq2> :P
 Day/night it is all relative.
[18:50] <tsimonq2> I had to make some further tweaks to Lugito so there might be a random notification here or there.
[18:50] <tsimonq2> True Dan.
 :D
[18:50] <tsimonq2> ERROR: [flexible-publish] HTTP Request (jenkins.plugins.http_request.HttpRequest@6bdbf12a) aborted due to exception
[18:50] <tsimonq2> java.lang.IllegalStateException: java.net.NoRouteToHostException: No route to host (Host unreachable)
[18:51] <tsimonq2> Uh, wtf?
[18:51] <tsimonq2> OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[18:51] <tsimonq2> ok
[18:51] <tsimonq2> That makes sense.
[18:51] <tsimonq2> Building remotely on node-2 in workspace /var/lib/jenkins/workspace/test
[18:52] <tsimonq2> The problem there is that if a container on the main server doesn't use the container DNS, it can't reach certain Lubuntu subdomains.
[18:52] <tsimonq2> But that was blocking reaching Phab.
 Yeah, that does make sense.
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[18:54] <tsimonq2> Nice.
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[19:00] <tsimonq2> Alright, I see an issue.
[19:00] <tsimonq2> Cool...
[19:00] <tsimonq2> sec
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[19:04] <tsimonq2> THERE we go.
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[19:05] <tsimonq2> That should be a hell of a lot less racey.
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[19:07] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T164: Community Feedback Survey] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T164#3536
[19:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUGITO09e0db880324: Fix race condition between job finishing and IRC notification being sent out.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUGITO09e0db880324
[19:09] <tsimonq2> Now the CI IRC notifications should actually be accurate.
[19:09] <tsimonq2> Also, there shouldn't be *any* notifications if everything is passing.
[19:11] <tsimonq2> So, that should be a nice goal. No more nagging. :P
[19:12] <kc2bez> CI whack-a-mole
[19:12] <tsimonq2> We should get a bunch of "just succeeded after failing" notifications in the coming hours and then relative silence when nightlies happen.
[19:12] <tsimonq2> kc2bez: True, heh.
[19:12] <kc2bez> Cool
[19:13] <tsimonq2> I'd recommend fixing the unstable builds first.
[19:13] <tsimonq2> Easier to comb through.
[19:13] <tsimonq2> The hard ones are going to be the errors.
[19:13] <tsimonq2> Er, the failures.
[19:14] <tsimonq2> Oh, of course. Why would the arm builders ever have no queue? That would just be silly.
[19:14] <tsimonq2> arm64 78 199 jobs (2 hours 20 minutes)
[19:15] <tsimonq2> It's okay though.
[19:15] <tsimonq2> At least some of the packages are building.
 your CI nightlies still lag the environment
 LO
 :p *
[19:28] <tsimonq2> They might lag the environment but it doesn't bring it to a screeching halt like before.
 ye
 i still need more compute space though so *soon* I gonna be hunting more infra heh
 your CI eats a ton of compute power lol
 moar power XD
 well what i'm thinking is Lubuntu can give some dosh out for coverage on a dedicated compute system for CI to sit on
 and then it has the rule of that system independent from the rest of my farm
 because thank you VMware for host-locking systems
 but that's later
 right now
 ***coffeeeeeeeee***
 *blames Simon and makes Lubuntu pay $45 for his coffee supply*  oh that reminds me
 *pokes @tsimonq2 for reasons*
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[20:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_pavucontrol-qt just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_pavucontrol-qt/38/
[20:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_libfm-qt UNSTABLE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_libfm-qt/281/
[20:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_lxqt-powermanagement just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_lxqt-powermanagement/30/
[20:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_lximage-qt just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_lximage-qt/271/
[20:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_lxqt-runner just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_lxqt-runner/29/
[20:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_liblxqt just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_liblxqt/297/
[20:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_lxqt-about just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_lxqt-about/37/
[20:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_liblxqt UNSTABLE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_liblxqt/42/
[20:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_lxqt-archiver just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_lxqt-archiver/42/
[20:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_lxqt-themes just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_lxqt-themes/30/
[20:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_lxqt-globalkeys just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_lxqt-globalkeys/450/
[20:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_lxqt-panel just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_lxqt-panel/35/
[20:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_calamares just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_calamares/35/
[20:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_lxqt-panel just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_lxqt-panel/281/
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[20:40] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_libqtxdg just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_libqtxdg/32/
[20:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_trojita FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_trojita/64/
[20:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_lxqt-notificationd just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_lxqt-notificationd/273/
[20:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_lxqt-sudo just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_lxqt-sudo/283/
[20:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_obconf-qt just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_obconf-qt/279/
[20:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_lxqt-notificationd just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_lxqt-notificationd/33/
[20:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_lxqt-panel just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_lxqt-panel/281/
[20:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_libqtxdg UNSTABLE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_libqtxdg/269/
[20:41] <tsimonq2> Like I said before, this spam is temporary.
[20:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_lxqt-session just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_lxqt-session/281/
[20:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_nm-tray just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_nm-tray/31/
[20:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_lxqt-powermanagement just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_lxqt-powermanagement/30/
[20:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_lxqt-runner just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_lxqt-runner/29/
[20:41] <tsimonq2> It should only spam like this for this run, and then after that it should be about 1/4 of that.
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_nm-tray just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_nm-tray/277/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_trojita FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_trojita/582/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_lximage-qt just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_lximage-qt/34/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_qterminal just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_qterminal/42/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_lxqt-powermanagement just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_lxqt-powermanagement/280/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_lxqt-openssh-askpass UNSTABLE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_lxqt-openssh-askpass/30/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_libsysstat UNSTABLE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_libsysstat/34/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_liblxqt UNSTABLE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_liblxqt/42/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_lxqt-archiver just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_lxqt-archiver/48/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_pavucontrol-qt just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_pavucontrol-qt/38/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_libsysstat just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_libsysstat/279/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_qtermwidget just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_qtermwidget/34/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_libfm-qt UNSTABLE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_libfm-qt/281/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_qterminal UNSTABLE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_qterminal/503/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_lxqt-about just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_lxqt-about/276/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_screengrab just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_screengrab/478/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_lxqt-globalkeys just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_lxqt-globalkeys/450/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_libfm-qt just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_libfm-qt/32/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_lxqt-about just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_lxqt-about/37/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_lxqt-archiver just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_lxqt-archiver/42/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_qps FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_qps/292/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_lxqt-openssh-askpass just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_lxqt-openssh-askpass/281/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_liblxqt just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_liblxqt/297/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_lximage-qt just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_lximage-qt/271/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_qps FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_qps/55/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_qtermwidget UNSTABLE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_qtermwidget/492/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_lxqt-themes just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_lxqt-themes/251/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_lxqt-themes just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_lxqt-themes/30/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_lxqt-globalkeys just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_lxqt-globalkeys/33/
[20:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_lxqt-panel just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_lxqt-panel/35/
[20:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_calamares just succeeded after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_calamares/35/
 @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> It should only spam like this for this run, and then after that it sh …], promises promises XD
[20:43] <tsimonq2> XD
[20:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_trojita FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_trojita/65/
[20:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_trojita FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_trojita/583/
[21:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_qps FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_qps/56/
[21:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_sddm UNSTABLE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_sddm/282/
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[21:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_sddm UNSTABLE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_sddm/33/
[21:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_trojita FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_trojita/65/
[21:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_lxqt-powermanagement just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_lxqt-powermanagement/30/
[21:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_qps FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_qps/293/
[21:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_trojita FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_trojita/583/
[21:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_lxqt-powermanagement just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_lxqt-powermanagement/280/
[22:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_trojita FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_trojita/65/
[22:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_lxqt-powermanagement just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_lxqt-powermanagement/30/
[22:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_qps FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_qps/294/
[22:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_trojita FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_trojita/583/
[22:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] focal_stable_lxqt-powermanagement just became unstable after failing: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/focal_stable_lxqt-powermanagement/280/
[22:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Lubuntu CI] groovy_stable_qps FAILURE: https://ci.lubuntu.me/job/groovy_stable_qps/57/
[23:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL7a3245d5f48f: Update wording] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL7a3245d5f48f
 dang I have had my # spot for sending notifactions by lugito taken