[07:59] <soundray> dougal: it's even easier when you have a slow connection (rather than no connection). Just copy the downloaded files into /var/cache/apt/archives on the target machine. Then it will only download the debs that it doesn't find in the cache.
[07:59] <[SUDO] Tux> krakensden i dont know what that is
[07:59] <x_0r> is it just one cd for ubuntu?
[08:00] <knoppix> Question: How much disk space does Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Kubuntu need (running without swap partition) ?
[08:00] <KrakensDen> [SUDO] Tux, hmm... it's an IRC-ism
[08:00] <KrakensDen> [SUDO] Tux, I could message you on some other network, if that would help
[08:00] <dougal> Oh frak. I think I just realized part of my problem :-/
[08:00] <soundray> knoppix: a basic install with gnome uses 1.5 to 2 GB.
[08:00] <[SUDO] Tux> krakensden ok... should i register?
[08:00] <soundray> dougal: is it sitting at the keyboard?
[08:00] <kalikiana7> oblib: hm... i'm no ssh expert... but isn't 0.0 the local server?
[08:01] <knoppix> soundray: and with xfce ?
[08:01] <dougal> I burned my ISO from the desktop CD. I think I was supposed to get the "alternate install" CD.
[08:01] <KrakensDen> [SUDO] Tux, probably
[08:01] <KrakensDen> [SUDO] Tux, are you using xchat?
[08:01] <soundray> knoppix: less ;)
[08:01] <[SUDO] Tux> krakensden yes, are you getting my PM's?
[08:01] <oblib> kalikiana7: local to where I'm logged onto I believe. Whatever the case, it used to work, I updated to Edgy, and now it doesn't
[08:01] <knoppix> soundray: okay, thank you
[08:01] <kitche> kalikiana7: 127.x.x.x is local machine
[08:02] <nastas> i have try many times to make xgl to work in my laptop but... nothing. its because i'm in laptop???
[08:02] <soundray> knoppix: remember to get xubuntu rather than ubuntu if gnome is dispensable.
[08:02] <KrakensDen> [SUDO] Tux, no
[08:02] <kronoman> how I configure my screensaver properly? seems that the gnome-screensaver is broken...
[08:02] <[SUDO] Tux> krakensden ok....
[08:02] <KrakensDen> [SUDO] Tux, click on the 'ubuntu servers' tab
[08:02] <oblib> kalikiana7: Fixed it. Turns out I needed to type "xhost +" on my xserver machine, and that disabled authorization. Thanks for the help.
[08:02] <[SUDO] Tux> krakensden ok...
[08:02] <[SUDO] Tux> krakensden now what
[08:02] <dougal> But now I'm stuck with this error about libc6-dev being held back. Arg!
[08:03] <KrakensDen> [SUDO] Tux, there hsould be some messages from NickServ
[08:03] <x_0r> is it just one cd for ubuntu?
[08:03] <KrakensDen> [SUDO] Tux, they should tell you how to register
[08:03] <kalikiana7> oblib: ok then :)
[08:03] <owl_> x_0r, yes
[08:03] <x_0r> oh ok lol
[08:03] <oblib> Does anyone know where the default settings are for xhost?
[08:03] <x_0r> easy to install?
[08:03] <owl_> x_0r, yes
[08:03] <z0id> hi. does ubuntu have an equivalent to debian's base-config? ie. a console based configuration of keyboard mapping, timezone, accounts, etc.
[08:04] <[SUDO] Tux> krakensden there is a ton of stuff typed there, i can't find it
[08:04] <kronoman> can I go back to the old screensaver system ?
[08:04] <knoppix> soundray: i sure will ;)
[08:04] <kronoman> where I could choose options and all
[08:04] <kalikiana7> z0id: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:04] <kronoman> and get rid of gnome-screensaver for good ?
[08:04] <Rappermas> i'm trying to do some development here, and I'm missing these header files: GL/glu.h, X11/Xlib.h, X11/Xutil.h
[08:04] <soundray> knoppix: this page says 1.4GB is enough for xubuntu: http://www.linuxcompatible.org/Xubuntu_6.06_s68294.html
[08:04] <Rappermas> how do i get them?
[08:04] <g333k_work> Hi, how do I remove a second installation of ubuntu removing it also from the grub menu?
[08:04] <KrakensDen> [SUDO] Tux, try /msg nickserv help
[08:04] <KrakensDen> [SUDO] Tux, and then /msg nickserv register
[08:05] <Rappermas> i tried looking them up in synaptic and didn't have too much luck
[08:05] <Rappermas> i thought maybe someone here would know
[08:05] <KrakensDen> [SUDO] Tux, /msg nickserv register YOURPASSWORD will register you
[08:05] <owl_> !pastebin
[08:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:05] <Rappermas> I think if i can get GL/glu.h, i would be in much better shape
[08:05] <dougal> kronoman: I'm in the same spot. I was going to try uninstalling both gnome-screensaver and xscreensaver, then reinstalling xscreensaver. But I haven't tried it yet.
[08:05] <teledyn> Rappermas: use apt-file to find them
[08:05] <DeeTahPanLtah> hiya mates
[08:05] <DeeTahPanLtah> i got a funny problem
[08:05] <Rappermas> teledyn: how does that work?
[08:05] <DeeTahPanLtah> my mate has to compile kernel to use latest drivers
[08:06] <Rappermas> is it just apt-file <name>?
[08:06] <DeeTahPanLtah> on a just-installed ubuntu
[08:06] <DeeTahPanLtah> the problem is he has no GNU make
[08:06] <[SUDO] Tux> krakensden it says: Register :No such nick/channel
[08:06] <DeeTahPanLtah> which package is it in?
[08:06] <teledyn> Rappermas: man apt-file
[08:06] <DeeTahPanLtah> he has no internet access on his laptop
[08:06] <Rappermas> ok, man entry, nice
[08:06] <Rappermas> brb
[08:06] <epsilon_> DeeTahPanLtah: ooh search in synaptic for "linux"
[08:06] <KrakensDen> [SUDO] Tux, nono... um.. /msg nickserv register
[08:06] <DeeTahPanLtah> well
[08:06] <KrakensDen> [SUDO] Tux, not /msg register
[08:06] <DeeTahPanLtah> he has outdated version of ubuntu
[08:06] <teledyn> Rappermas: you need to run update first to update its list
[08:06] <DeeTahPanLtah> ;p
[08:06] <epsilon_> DeeTahPanLtah: then upgrade :P:P
[08:07] <Rappermas> teledyn: it's not even installed
[08:07] <[SUDO] Tux> The nickname [[SUDO] Tux]  is already registered
[08:07] <soundray> Rappermas: install it, then
[08:07] <Rappermas> right, lol
[08:07] <[SUDO] Tux> krakensden it says: The nickname [[SUDO] Tux]  is already registered
[08:07] <z0id> kalikiana7: i dont have x :). i found it though. base-config is in universe
[08:07] <[SUDO] Tux> krakensden does that mean i allready did it?
[08:07] <DeeTahPanLtah> could anybody help me then?
[08:07] <g333k_work> Hi, how do I remove a second installation of ubuntu removing it also from the grub menu?
[08:07] <CarlFK> this popped up in a shell: kernel: [17235297.184000]  Disabling IRQ #11
[08:08] <epsilon_> DeeTahPanLtah: for the upgrade?
[08:08] <DeeTahPanLtah> well
[08:08] <CarlFK> should I care?
[08:08] <Guardian> hi
[08:08] <DeeTahPanLtah> the problem is:
[08:08] <kronoman> g333k_work: how is installed ? in another partition ? you could just erase it, and erase the entry in grub menu
[08:08] <soundray> g333k_work: format the partitions and run 'sudo update-grub' from the remaining installation
[08:08] <DeeTahPanLtah> he needs to launch his modem
[08:08] <Guardian> what should i do to upgrade from dapper to edgy eft ?
[08:08] <DeeTahPanLtah> and he has outdated version of ubuntu
[08:08] <epsilon_> DeeTahPanLtah: in synaptic in settings there is a "distribution" tab you can upgrade everything there
[08:08] <DeeTahPanLtah> i just need an package name
[08:08] <soundray> !upgrade | Guardian
[08:08] <ubotu> Guardian: For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[08:08] <epsilon_> DeeTahPanLtah: ohh so no broadband
[08:08] <Guardian> thx soundray
[08:08] <DeeTahPanLtah> not yet ;<
[08:08] <epsilon_> DeeTahPanLtah: a new kernel?
[08:09] <DeeTahPanLtah> just a cd
[08:09] <[SUDO] Tux> krakensden it says: The nickname [[SUDO] Tux]  is already registered
[08:09] <kronoman> does ubuntu supports USB joysticks ? there is a any configuration tool ?
[08:09] <[SUDO] Tux> krakensden does that mean i allready did it?
[08:09] <epsilon_> DeeTahPanLtah: a d/l link for edgy cd?
[08:09] <DeeTahPanLtah> he actually copied the sources on the usb stick
[08:09] <DeeTahPanLtah> nah
[08:09] <DeeTahPanLtah> he already has ubuntu
[08:09] <DeeTahPanLtah> just has to install make ;p
[08:09] <epsilon_> DeeTahPanLtah: ahh so complicated sry im nboob :P
[08:09] <UmbraAdmin> why did apt-get install vlc remove gnoma and about all my system files ?
[08:09] <UmbraAdmin> Gnome
[08:10] <epsilon_> DeeTahPanLtah: sources? you mean lots of .deb packages?
[08:10] <DeeTahPanLtah> nope
[08:10] <DeeTahPanLtah> just linux-thingy.tar.bz2
[08:10] <epsilon_> DeeTahPanLtah: AHH :D:D
[08:10] <[SUDO] Tux> krakensden You there?
[08:10] <epsilon_> DeeTahPanLtah: then honestly i dont know... you have to select kernel modules then compile a kernel image, then make it boot
[08:11] <DeeTahPanLtah> yeah i know
[08:11] <DeeTahPanLtah> the problem is
[08:11] <DeeTahPanLtah> he's out of make
[08:11] <strabes> does anyone know why a mounted vfat partition would randomly change its name from 'data' to '_PNG' ???
[08:11] <epsilon_> DeeTahPanLtah: then it will be hard without make (impossible)
[08:11] <DeeTahPanLtah> damnit
[08:11] <strabes> i've tried changing the location it is mounted to to things like 'shared' and 'windows' and rebooting but it doesn't seem to help
[08:11] <epsilon_> DeeTahPanLtah: so your friend needs a newer kernel than the default in edgy eft?
[08:11] <EdgeT> oh god, what's the opera's package name?
[08:12] <strabes> it keeps the name '_PNG'
[08:12] <DeeTahPanLtah> epsilon_: its 6.06 TLS
[08:12] <sd00> Hi, how can I play music files from an smb:// address ?  (e.g. smb://musicserver/elvis/sometrack.mp3) ?  Must I mount the share first?
[08:13] <epsilon_> DeeTahPanLtah: ty. it's an older version now it's 6.10 (its more "experimental" but newer)
[08:13] <KrakensDen> [SUDO] Tux, yes, sorry
[08:13] <[SUDO] Tux> krakensden okay did you see what it says?
[08:13] <phxheat> hi, as a web developer, everyday i load the same applications and files in order to work on my projects (firefox bookmarks, jedit, ftp program, ssh client, etc), however i was wondering if there is some sort of launcher that exists that can load all these for me automatically, with the added benefit of loading specific files inside those programs, for example, loading the directory for projectx in jedit, opening projectx's bookmark tabs, aut
[08:13] <KrakensDen> [SUDO] Tux, yes
[08:13] <epsilon_> DeeTahPanLtah: your friend should upgrade everything from a cd
[08:13] <[SUDO] Tux> krakensden what does this mean then?
[08:13] <Samus_Aran> does anyone know how to fix this problem: "Failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: Unable to determine the address of the message bus"
[08:13] <soundray> strabes: it's probably the filesystem label. You can change that with one of the utils from the mtools package... I think it's called mlabel
[08:13] <KrakensDen> [SUDO] Tux, well... either you don't have a unique name
[08:13] <KrakensDen> [SUDO] Tux, or you should log in :)
[08:14] <epsilon_> phxheat: hmm thats complicated
[08:14] <Samus_Aran> the dbus service is running
[08:14] <KrakensDen> [SUDO] Tux, /msg nickserv identify YOURPASSWORD
[08:14] <[SUDO] Tux> krakensden i dont remember the password it sent me
[08:14] <morgue> is GNOME 2.16.1 the default image viewer on 6.06?
[08:14] <epsilon_> phxheat: one solution for example is to make a command file with those programs and their parameter is the file
[08:14] <fenotype_> ehil gente
[08:14] <kronoman> guys : does ubuntu supports USB joysticks ? there is a any configuration tool ?
[08:14] <[SUDO] Tux> krakensden Password Incorrect
[08:14] <soundray> morgue: no. Gnome isn't an image viewer
[08:14] <epsilon_> phxheat BUT that depend on the programs :(
[08:14] <phxheat> epsilon_: yea, i was thinking that too, hmm
[08:14] <phxheat> like a bash script?
[08:14] <fenotype_> sorry, i see i'm not in ubuntu-it
[08:15] <[SUDO] Tux> krakensden should i re-register and choose a diff username?
[08:15] <kronoman> there is a project or something for joystick support ?  gaming is important to reach desktop audience
[08:15] <epsilon_> phxheat yes something like that
[08:15] <morgue> soundray, excuse me I meant Eye of GNOME 2.16.1
[08:15] <epsilon_> phxheat not even a script just a file but thatz depends on the program
[08:15] <epsilon_> phxheat i dont know how to auto-start them im looking for that info i need it too :)
[08:15] <soundray> morgue: yes, that's the one
[08:16] <KrakensDen> [SUDO] Tux, I guess... I'm not exactly an IRC guru
[08:16] <joevandyk> Why is the font in Firefox different looking?
[08:16] <morgue> soundray, funny 'cause I used to get options when I right clicked on pictures, now I don't
[08:16] <[SUDO] Tux> krakensden okay. brb
[08:16] <joevandyk> (just installed 6.10)
[08:16] <phxheat> epsilon_: auto starting programs on boot?
[08:16] <[SUDO] Tux> krakensden wait do you have AIM or some other program?
[08:16] <epsilon_> phxheat auto start when logging in to x yes :)
[08:17] <morgue> joevandyk, you can change the default font going to the Content tab on Preferences
[08:17] <phxheat> does this help?: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_run_programs_on_startup_when_login_into_GNOME
[08:17] <[SUDO] Tux> krakensden you could just explain it to me over dat
[08:17] <smoenux> !nvidia
[08:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:17] <[SUDO] Tux> krakensden it would be SOO much easier
[08:17] <KrakensDen> [SUDO] Tux, I'm krakensden on AIM
[08:17] <epsilon_> phxheat it might a min then thx :)O
[08:17] <open-src> question >> is there a way to install k9copy on ubuntu (gnome) -- Not kubuntu....?
[08:17] <sd00> Anyone: can I play music files from an smb:// address ?  (e.g. smb://musicserver/elvis/sometrack.mp3) ?  or must I mount the share first?
[08:18] <epsilon_> open-src search for it in add/remove programs or synaptic :)
[08:18] <clearzen> open-src: sudo aptitude install k9copy
[08:18] <epsilon_> phxheat it seems to be easy cool thank you :D
[08:19] <at0miku> when I try to change the screen resolution, screen goes black then puts me on the login screen. how can I fix this?
[08:19] <epsilon_> at0miku but does it change? or this happens while gaming for example?
[08:19] <dusk> at0miku: xorg?
[08:19] <at0miku> Nothing changes
[08:19] <at0miku> it just goes back to the login screen
[08:20] <at0miku> Uhh yeah its xorg
[08:20] <epsilon_> at0miku hmm. do you have latest nvidia/ati drivers?
[08:20] <epsilon_> at0miku i think it helps :S
[08:20] <at0miku> I'm using an onboard gfx card
[08:20] <at0miku> voodoo3
[08:20] <clearzen> I've been running edgy for about a week now and I've noticed that it is very random with samba shares. Sometimes they show up and other times I have to hit reload to see them only to lose other pc's on my network. Does anyone know why?
[08:20] <owl_> KrakensDen, worked on the video :) but its still dark :)
[08:21] <epsilon_> so phxheat make a command file in your home for example "my-autorun" then mak ie automatically run :)
[08:21] <owl_> KrakensDen, but ill fix that :) thanks alot
[08:21] <cynical> clearzen: Make sure they are on the same workgroup
[08:21] <cynical> clearzen: if they are that is a bit strange
[08:22] <clearzen> cynical: they are on the same network. And it is only with samba
[08:22] <clearzen> cynical:NTF is fine and so is ssh
[08:22] <DeeTahPanLtah> how to unpack dpkg?
[08:22] <KrakensDen> owl_, yeah, gamma ftw :P
[08:22] <cynical> clearzen: No I'm saying are they on the same workgroup
[08:22] <DeeTahPanLtah> dpkg file*
[08:22] <clearzen> cynical: it is all the same workgroup
[08:22] <clearzen> cynical: I checked
[08:22] <cynical> clearzen: ah ok
[08:22] <owl_> KrakensDen, im just going to use the nvidia settings panel and do it there :) rather than recompile libsdl :P
[08:23] <clearzen> cynical: I thought it was a known problem. But I guess not
[08:23] <cynical> clearzen: No I've never had that issue on my network
[08:23] <nastas> bye!
[08:23] <epsilon_> DeeTahPanLtah: .deb file? dpkg -i file.
[08:24] <DeeTahPanLtah> na
[08:24] <DeeTahPanLtah> not install
[08:24] <kouaks> hello everyone... anybody familiar with Acer laptops? I'm having trouble booting Edgy...
[08:24] <DeeTahPanLtah> i want to skip dependencies
[08:24] <DeeTahPanLtah> just install what's inside
[08:24] <epsilon_> DeeTahPanLtah noo that wont work in a debian (linux) system everything depends on everything :(
[08:24] <DeeTahPanLtah> even kernel if i get just an image and its modules? ;p
[08:24] <DeeTahPanLtah> dont think so
[08:24] <DeeTahPanLtah> how to decompress?
[08:25] <MarcN> DeeTahPanLtah: what is dpkg complaining about?
[08:25] <DeeTahPanLtah> nothing yet
[08:25] <morgue> So the difference between ubuntu and kbutun is that the first uses gnome and the second uses kde?
[08:25] <smoenux> can anyone tell me how I can install the previous version of my Nvidia Drivers? I cannot see them in the Package Manager.
[08:25] <DeeTahPanLtah> but ima install a package from 6.10 under 6.06
[08:25] <DeeTahPanLtah> it surely *will* complain ;>
[08:25] <kitche> smoenux: yes
[08:25] <epsilon_> morgue yes. gnome is simpler faster easier to use, kde is more configurable. both are lovely :)
[08:25] <MarcN> DeeTahPanLtah: you may already have the deps met
[08:26] <DeeTahPanLtah> fat chance
[08:26] <morgue> epsilon_, when you say more configurable what do you main?
[08:26] <morgue> mean*
[08:26] <open-src> it worked.. that awesome.
[08:26] <epsilon_> smoenux: try the nvidia.com site :)
[08:26] <morgue> afk
[08:26] <snoops> all settings for thunderbird - accounts, smtp servers, emails etc can be transfered from the windows thunderbird client to the linux one, correct?
[08:26] <shwag_> anyone know if edgy works on a mac mini intel ?
[08:26] <epsilon_> morgue more options, more but you dont need them all. i love them both
[08:27] <open-src> ty <clearzen> and <epsilon_> :)
[08:27] <epsilon_> morgue AND you can run KDE programs in GNOME and vice versa.
[08:27] <tich> i am unable to connect to my wireless network-- can anyone help me?
[08:27] <epsilon_> open-src cool :)
[08:27] <DeeTahPanLtah> shwag: if some architecture has a gcc kernel ported,it will work :>
[08:27] <smoenux> epsilon_: I have, but those drivers are weird... they are asking me to compile some kernel or something, and I'm still noobish, and affraid to kill my system
[08:28] <epsilon_> smoenux yes it may :). why do you need those older drivers?
[08:28] <kitche> smoenux: you jut need the kernel-sources
[08:28] <oangefly> i setup samba and everything seems to be working, but i can login the same name at the same time on 2 pc's....can anyone help....???....
[08:29] <epsilon_> kitche smoenux there is no kernel-sources package
[08:29] <killown> how I define route eth0 to eth1 in iptables?
[08:29] <Samus_Aran> doesn't anyone know any way to make Debian/Ubuntu ignore the dependancies of a package so that apt never again complains about it ?  I have a couple packages which think they have unmet deps, but they do not, they work fine .. but apt wants to uninstall them every time I run it
[08:29] <Sebboh> Is there a normal, easy way to gain access to directories that need root access, from within the file browser?
[08:29] <smoenux> epsilon_, I need the old ones to fix a font problem I'm having with Guild-Wars in cedega
[08:29] <Samus_Aran> I have found nothing on Google to help and nobody has ever suggested a solution in the channel ..
[08:29] <epsilon_> smoenux that MAY be cedega's fault are you absolutely sure its the nvidia?
[08:29] <kouaks> Sebboh, try running sudo nautilus from a terminal inside gnome
[08:30] <clearzen> Samus_Aran: use dpkg to force install
[08:30] <POVaddct> killown: enabling routing has nothing to do with iptables. sudo sh -c "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
[08:30] <Sebboh> Samus, I've often had the same problem.  I've thought about making a meta package, but I don't know how to do that.
[08:30] <clearzen> Samus_Aran: you could try apt-get -f install as well
[08:30] <Sebboh> Kouaks, *within the file browser*?
[08:30] <tich> i don't know if it even recognizes that a wireless network exists. i have tried both dhcp and with a static ip and nothing ever happens
[08:30] <kitche> epsilon_: sure there is even though it's an old version of the kernel
[08:30] <Samus_Aran> clearzen: installing is not the issue I am talking about.  the issue is that apt recognizes the packages as missing dependencies, and then proceeds to refuse to do anything until those apps have been "fixed" (removed from the system)
[08:30] <killown> POVaddct I do it
[08:30] <Samus_Aran> clearzen: "apt-get -f install" is what removes the apps I want installed
[08:30] <smoenux> epsilon_, I've been on all the forums and tried everything, on the one forum the guys were saying that the font problem is only with nvidia drivers 8xxx and that I need to install 7xxx
[08:31] <kouaks> sudo nautilus *will* fire up Nautilus, only with root privs
[08:31] <Sebboh> Samus, make a meta package that "provides" whatever the missing packages are.  I don't know how to do that, though. =)
[08:31] <tenshu> plop
[08:31] <POVaddct> killown: iptables can be used for setting up masquerading though
[08:31] <fialar> trying to compile wine on 64-bit with Ubuntu 6.10.. in config.log I get: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL"
[08:31] <DeeTahPanLtah> afk
[08:31] <fialar> skipping incompatible /usr/bin/../lib/libGL.so when searching for -lGL
[08:31] <jrib> smoenux: take a look at equivs, but be sure that it is not actually a broken package...
[08:31] <killown> POVaddct teach -me
[08:31] <jrib> Samus_Aran: take a look at equivs, but be sure that it is not actually a broken package...
[08:31] <epsilon_> kitche then i dont find it :( what is the exact source package name? tell smoeux. are the headers enough?
[08:31] <kmaynard> kouaks, actually, you'll have to run gksudo nautilus
[08:31] <bRutEado> Does anyone can explain to me what to do by this phrase 'Then use rawrite command: rawrite -f sbm.bin (rawwritewin.exe sbm.bin)'. I don't understand what to do
[08:31] <at0miku> okay
[08:31] <fialar> anyone know where I can find a valid -lGL (opengl lib)
[08:31] <clearzen> Samus_Aran:  have you tried using aptitude? It may provide a solution on it's own
[08:31] <at0miku> im gonna say my problem again :)
[08:31] <jrib> smoenux: sorry, I can't type :)
[08:31] <Sebboh> Kouaks, I know.  I don't want to fire up a terminal.  Thanks anyway.
[08:31] <POVaddct> killown: which one is the interface to the public?
[08:31] <Gwildor> bRutEado, still?
[08:31] <at0miku> when I try to change the screen resolution, screen goes black then puts me on the login screen. how can I fix this?
[08:32] <kouaks> Sebboh, then use Alt+F2 (Run) and type sudo nautilus
[08:32] <Samus_Aran> jrib: I saw mention of equivs on a Debian forum, but I didn't see it on this system.  is it available on Ubuntu then ?
[08:32] <kitche> smoeux you need the linux headers
[08:32] <jrib> Samus_Aran: by the way, I'm assuming this isn't an official package
[08:32] <DeeTahPanLtah> bakc
[08:32] <Gwildor> bRutEado, rawrite -f sbm.bin == linux      rawwritewin.exe sbm.bin == windows
[08:32] <epsilon_> kitche are they enough?
[08:32] <Sebboh> Kouaks, I've seen other people that can right click a folder and "browse as root".
[08:32] <killown> POVaddct nope
[08:32] <kitche> epsilon_: kernel-source-2.4.27 is the package name it's very old don't know why they don't have the one up that they use sinc it's sorta breaking the GPL
[08:32] <bRutEado> [Gwildor] : i still have no answer for my questions
[08:32] <Gwildor> bRutEado, do that from command line!
[08:32] <Samus_Aran> jrib: if so, I will uninstall the apps it thinks are broken and install 'equivs'
[08:32] <kitche> epsilon_: yes it should be enough
[08:33] <Gwildor> bRutEado, maybe say WHAT you dont understand!
[08:33] <jrib> Samus_Aran: no, what exactly is broken?
[08:33] <Gwildor> bRutEado, cuz ive answered you 3 times now
[08:33] <tich> there doesn't seem to be much info on either the wiki or forum on wireless stuff so if anyone could help i would appreciate it.
[08:33] <epsilon_> kitche smoeux: look for meta-packages. smoeux if oyu have linux kernel generic then install generic linux headers :)
[08:33] <Sebboh> Samus_Aran: Right, equivs!  Good idea...
[08:33] <POVaddct> killown: sorry, i have to go. set masquerading with: sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ethX -j MASQUERADE   (replace ethX with the interface going to the internet)
[08:33] <kouaks> Sebboh, sorry, not sure how that is done... I use sudo nautilus from a terminal :(
[08:34] <krups> guarddog is blocking my ktorrent.  other then enabling bittorrent in the settings, what should i be looking at?
[08:34] <Samus_Aran> jrib: I am trying to use an older version of the Opera web browser (which depends on a no-longer-existant, empty, transitional package) and a very new version of TuxPaint (which asks for *very* specific versions of common libs that it doesn't actually need)
[08:34] <Sebboh> ok Kouaks... Thanks. =)
[08:34] <bRutEado> [Gwildor] : what exactly can i write in the command line? I will experience all the ways
[08:34] <smoenux> epsilon_ ,  kk ... thankx
[08:34] <Gwildor> bRutEado, from linux?  rawrite -f sbm.bin
[08:34] <jrib> Samus_Aran: you just use equivs to make a fake package with the name of that dep but doesn't actually install anything
[08:35] <mirak> how can I know if my X uses fglrx module or radeon ?
[08:35] <epsilon_> smoenux: so firs install kernel headers and dl nvidia drivers.
[08:35] <kouaks> anybody familiar with boot params? :)
[08:35] <Sebboh> I am SOO going to equivs evolution.
[08:35] <Samus_Aran> jrib: well that is exactly what I need.  I was just asking if Ubuntu had this package ... as I can't install anything until apt removes these packages it thinks are broken
[08:35] <Gwildor> Gwildor, ive alread told you.....outside () is linux command... inside () is windows command
[08:35] <jrib> Samus_Aran: yes, it does.  It is in universe
[08:35] <Sebboh> Kouaks, just ask the question, someone will answer. =)
[08:35] <zyclop> kouaks, man bootparam?
[08:35] <jrib> !info equivs
[08:35] <ubotu> equivs: Circumvent Debian package dependencies. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.7 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 128 kB
[08:35] <epsilon_> smoenux: THEN press ctrl-alt-f1 and login. then "sudo rm /tmp/.X0-lock" then "bash nvidia-driver....run"
[08:36] <epsilon_> smoenux *"sudo bash nvidia...run"
[08:36] <Samus_Aran> epsilon_: that would need to be sudo as well, the nvidia driver install
[08:36] <Samus_Aran> epsilon_: nm =p
[08:37] <kouaks> I'm having trouble booting Edgy on a Acer Aspire 1690. Booting Dapper was a snap (no special params needed). Edgy on the other hand just hangs :(
[08:37] <kmu> How can I determine the version of a software package installed with apt-get?
[08:37] <epsilon_> Samus_Aran =)
[08:37] <n1gke> Good afternoon folks.
[08:37] <slinky_> Good day folks, can I safely remove xorg.conf.nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn files if they are no longer needed or are they tracked in some index?
[08:37] <jrib> kmu: apt-cache policy package_name
[08:37] <epsilon_> kmu search for it in synaptic :)
[08:38] <epsilon_> slinky_ you can remove them but it doesnt hurt if they are there.
[08:38] <zyclop> kmu, sometimes foo -v works
[08:38] <kmu> thanks everyone
[08:38] <Sebboh> kouaks, google for info about the parameters apci=off, noapic, and nolapic.
[08:38] <slinky_> epsilon: they are incorrect, so I don't want to refer to bad install options in the future, thanks
[08:39] <zyclop> kouaks, define "trouble"
[08:39] <kouaks> Sebboh, i've tried all of them... also tried irqpoll pci biosirq, vga=771, vga=791... no go
[08:39] <bRutEado> [Gwildor] : And what are the words i can write since i have the windows xp?
[08:39] <smoenux> epsilon_: ok, I seem to have the headers install allready
[08:39] <Gwildor> bRutEado, the shit inside of the (HERE)
[08:39] <epsilon_> smoenux: cool. read what i said before then try to do it. :)
[08:39] <slinky_> Have a great day everyone, bye and thanks
[08:39] <epsilon_> smoenux: shall i write them down again?
[08:40] <smoenux> na it's ok
[08:40] <smoenux> I can scroll :P
[08:40] <Darxus> how do I make it so I can switch between workspaces via alt-F# instead of ctrl-alt-left/right arrow?
[08:40] <epsilon_> smoenux okok :P
[08:40] <bRutEado> [Gwildor] : You are joking with me?   Hopefully the problem is somewhere in the RAMdrive area :S
[08:42] <smoenux> epsilon_ . yeah, I figured that :P .... that much at least I know
[08:42] <jafaar> can anyone help me with a problem?
[08:42] <tannerld> warkruid: ok :) thanks
[08:42] <SeanTater> Can VCDs have menus? (Like DVDs do)
[08:43] <Gwildor> i dont think so...
[08:43] <ivx> jafaar just ask
[08:43] <n1gke> jafaar, juest ask the question, someone will help you now or later.
[08:43] <jafaar> i am running xubuntu, and for some reason whenever i scroll or move a window
[08:43] <epsilon_> smoenux: okok, sry, just in case you didnt know :)
[08:43] <SeanTater> Gwildor: (me?)
[08:43] <jafaar> it seems to move very slowly
[08:43] <Gwildor> SeanTater, ya
[08:43] <smoenux> lol
[08:43] <SeanTater> Gwildor: eh -- okay
[08:43] <n1gke> jafaar, how much video memoery do you have ?
[08:43] <jafaar> it just started happening after i installed the xubuntu-desktop(i was on GNOME) before
[08:43] <SeanTater> Gwildor: I was afraid so --
[08:43] <jafaar> i have 256
[08:44] <n1gke> Hmmm
[08:44] <jafaar> 256 RAM
[08:44] <ivx> jafaar does that happen in firefox when you look at a big page
[08:44] <jafaar> yes
[08:44] <Samus_Aran> jrib: thanks.  will investigate equivs now
[08:44] <Samus_Aran> g'day all
[08:44] <ivx> jafaar with embedded video and whatnot
[08:44] <n1gke> Hi Sam
[08:44] <jafaar> i've reinstalled my graphics drivers
[08:44] <rockobop> #ubuntu-es
[08:44] <jafaar> it happens whenever i scroll in any window
[08:45] <jafaar> or move a window around my screen
[08:45] <boybach> hello, i have a problem getting my monitor to display higher than 1024 x 768.
[08:45] <rockobop> #ubuntu-es
[08:45] <DeeTahPanLtah> !highresx
[08:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about highresx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <DeeTahPanLtah> !highres
[08:45] <ivx> boybach do you have genertic drivers or the offical ones
[08:45] <n1gke> boybach, have a look at your xorg.conf file.
[08:45] <jStefan> !fixres | boybach
[08:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about highres - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:45] <larsemil_> in what folder should put codecs to play whatever in mplayer?
[08:45] <ubotu> boybach: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:45] <jafaar> when i run a video file, it is unaffected though
[08:45] <DeeTahPanLtah> damnit,sorry ;p
[08:45] <tefsom> hi all
[08:45] <janwillem> hi
[08:45] <pOrnstAr> hello
[08:45] <tefsom> i've decided to migrate from debian to ubuntu
[08:45] <seamus7> Hi.. what do you think is the best multimedia plugin for Firefox? I'm currently using the mplayer plugin.
[08:45] <SeanTater> !ohmy DeeTahPanLtah
[08:45] <tefsom> i've a nvidia card
[08:46] <SeanTater> !ohmy | DeeTahPanLtah
[08:46] <ubotu> DeeTahPanLtah: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:46] <tefsom> have i to recompile something?
[08:46] <jrib> larsemil_: the README file in the codec tarball should say ( /usr/local/lib/codecs/)
[08:46] <boybach> offical ones
[08:46] <SeanTater> tefsom: not likely
[08:46] <DeeTahPanLtah> !damnit_isnt_a_swearword | SeanTater
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about damnit_isnt_a_swearword - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <n1gke> boybach, in your xorg.conf file, look for default depth
[08:46] <larsemil_> jrib, well it says /usr/lib/codecs and that does not work..
[08:46] <pOrnstAr> hey... i have this bug on kubuntu edgy, using a fresh install... i have an ati x700 mobile and when i switch from Xorg to console
[08:46] <boybach> where is this file ?
[08:46] <SeanTater> tefsom: read what ubotu says in a second
[08:46] <epsilon_> what is !damnit? :S
[08:46] <pOrnstAr> the screen is all messed up
[08:46] <jrib> seamus7: I think that's the best by far
[08:46] <SeanTater> !nvidia | tefsom
[08:46] <ubotu> tefsom: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:46] <jafaar> like i said, this just started happening after i installed the xubuntu-desktop
[08:46] <epsilon_> and these ! thingys?
[08:47] <pOrnstAr> i think it's the refresh rate...
[08:47] <n1gke> boybach, hang on one.....
[08:47] <pOrnstAr> anyone can help?
[08:47] <jrib> larsemil_: pastebin 'ls -l /usr/lib/codecs' as well as the output from mplayer
[08:47] <RichW> Really simple Q: If I upgrade from dapper to edgy with gksu "update-manager -c", will it install and configure upstart?
[08:47] <janwillem> i need help with my sound card
[08:47] <jStefan> ubotu, tell epsilon_ about yourself
[08:47] <janwillem> it doesnt find it
[08:47] <janwillem> it says audigy 2 when i have audigy 4
[08:47] <ivx> jafaar why xubuntu? do you have a not so new computer
[08:47] <seamus7> jrib: ok thx
[08:47] <epsilon_> jStefan ok :)
[08:47] <janwillem> and i dont have any sounds
[08:47] <n1gke> boybach, on my system it is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:48] <jafaar> ivx well yes, i wanted to try the Xfce desktop environment
[08:48] <n1gke> boybach, you may need to change the default depth to say 16 or 24, depending on you monior, BUT !
[08:48] <boybach> I have opened it in gedit the default is 24
[08:48] <jafaar> ivx however, i've tryed uninstalling xubuntu desktop, and it doesn't fix anything
[08:48] <n1gke> Hmmmm
[08:48] <ivx> jafaar what is you cpu speed
[08:48] <larsemil_> jrib, i got it working.
[08:48] <limqareb> hi
[08:48] <n1gke> boybach, try using default depth 16 and see what happenns, BUT !
[08:48] <jafaar> ivx i believe i have a 2.7 celeron
[08:48] <limqareb> i am the same one as before which has sound probs
[08:48] <boybach> but ?
[08:49] <n1gke> boybach, be sure to make a backup of the xorg.conf FIRST.
[08:49] <Gwildor> jafaar, xubuntu-desktop is jstu a meta-package......it contains....nothing
[08:49] <jrib> larsemil_: great
[08:49] <ivx> jafaar why not ubuntu then, that is plenty fast, i haven't had anyproblems like that
[08:49] <n1gke> boybach, then.....
[08:49] <rucoma> Hi everyone!
[08:49] <jafaar> ivx i was running ubuntu before, i just wanted to try xubuntu
[08:49] <n1gke> boybach, close ALL open windows and press control/alt backspace to restart X
[08:49] <ivx> jafaar did ubuntu have that problem
[08:49] <limqareb> has anyone got an  i dea what i need to get sound on my ubuntu setup
[08:50] <jafaar> ivx no, it only started once i installed xubuntu
[08:50] <rucoma> Anyone of you get freeze ubuntu 6.10 at startup?
[08:50] <fialar> anyone know what package includes /usr/lib32/libGL.so.* ?
[08:50] <jafaar> ivx and i tryed removing the xubuntu-desktop package, and the problem did not go away
[08:50] <epsilon_> rucoma nobody will be able to help you pls be more specific
[08:50] <ivx> jafaar i would just stick with ubuntu, you sytem should good,
[08:50] <Gwildor> jafaar, xubuntu-desktop is jstu a meta-package......it contains....nothing
[08:50] <kouaks> rucoma, i get it when trying to boot off the cd to install edgy
[08:50] <boybach> OK
[08:50] <jrib> fialar: try packages.ubuntu.com
[08:50] <jafaar> ivx well, now i have the problem on ubuntu
[08:51] <ivx> jafaar well xubuntu just comes with less stuff
[08:51] <warkruid> fialar: Mesa?
[08:51] <limqareb> does ANYONE KNOW HOW TO set sound
[08:51] <jrib> !caps | limqareb
[08:51] <ubotu> limqareb: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[08:51] <n1gke> boybach, I also found that another display setting is a bit better on the eyes.
[08:51] <jafaar> ivx before installing xubuntu, i didn't have the problem on ubuntu
[08:51] <jafaar> ivx but now i do
[08:51] <boybach> oh
[08:51] <g333k_work> How to re-install grub using another Ubuntu CD?
[08:51] <n1gke> boybach, I use 1152x864 to be flicker free and less straing on the eyes.
[08:51] <jrib> ubotu: tell g333k_work about grub
[08:51] <ivx> jafaar so are you using ubuntu or xubuntu
[08:51] <joevandyk> anyone know, in gaim, how i can get the conversation fonts to look the same?  when people write to me, their fonts are smaller than mine
[08:52] <n1gke> boybach, that is at least on my system.
[08:52] <limqareb> ubotu i need help
[08:52] <jafaar> ivx right now im using xubuntu, i installed it again to see if it would fix the problem
[08:52] <jafaar> ivx however i have the same problem on ubuntu
[08:52] <jrib> joevandyk: in preferences, you can format incoming messages
[08:52] <rucoma> The computer freezes randomly when starting X, but conf looks ok and sometimes i can start x
[08:52] <boybach> how do set these up mine only goes to 1024x768
[08:52] <joevandyk> jrib: i'm a moron and can't find that option.  (using the edgy gaim, btw)
[08:52] <rucoma> my video card is an ATI Radeon 9200
[08:52] <joevandyk> jrib: ah, dammit.  found it.  :-)
[08:53] <factotum> having a brain fart, whats the command to get an nvidia xorg config?
[08:53] <jafaar> ivx i've tried updating my graphics drivers, but i still have the problem
[08:53] <joevandyk> factotum: nvidia-glx-config enable, I think
[08:53] <UmbraAdmin> g333k_work -> sudo apt-cdrom add
[08:53] <limqareb> does anyone take any notice of me?
[08:53] <UmbraAdmin> i think the do it as usual with apt-get
[08:53] <mirak> can I rebuild a linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic with my own settings ? I don't want to do a custom lernel
[08:53] <ivx> jafaar i would just reformat with ubuntu and swing it from there, i don't know man
[08:54] <jafaar> i also have another problem, since i first installed edgy about a week ago, i've been trying to burn data CD's
[08:54] <jafaar> and they have all failed
[08:54] <factotum> joevandyk: yuppers you got it, thanks much
[08:54] <clearzen> jafaar: what are you using to burn cd's ?
[08:54] <limqareb> wtf does anyone have an i dea what to do so i can hear on my system
[08:55] <factotum> ctrl+alt+bye bye
[08:55] <jafaar> clearzen: i was using the CD/DVD creator that comes installed on ubuntu
[08:55] <RichW> If I upgrade from dapper to edgy with gksu "update-manager -c", will it install and configure upstart?
[08:55] <fialar> anyone know if there is an nVidia libGL.so in /usr/lib32? So that 64-bit systems can run 32-bit apps with opengl?
[08:55] <clearzen> jafaar: try k3b
[08:55] <jStefan> !sound | limqareb
[08:55] <ubotu> limqareb: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems  and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:56] <Phaqui> Where the hell can I find the system requirements for Ubuntu ??
[08:56] <variant> Phaqui: it's quite simple really.. if you mean minimum
[08:56] <Phaqui> minimum, yes
[08:57] <variant> Phaqui: for a desktop system with gnome or kde a 1ghz cpu and 128mb ram _can_ run it but it wont be very happy
[08:57] <limqareb> well i got one other thing
[08:57] <variant> Phaqui: with that you would be better with xfce.. which can use much less ram than that
[08:57] <RichW> Im running Ubuntu on 400mhz processor and 192mb of ram
[08:57] <limqareb> i got 2 sound cards onboard and the audigy 4 which one is the one default choosen
[08:57] <Phaqui> oic
[08:57] <variant> Phaqui: if you have less than 64mb ram you can use fluxbox
[08:58] <RichW> i would recommend 192mb minimum
[08:58] <shwag_> what is the difference betweent he install cd or the install DVD ?
[08:58] <variant> Phaqui: i use fluxbox anyway because its good..
[08:58] <Phaqui> I think I have enough ram
[08:58] <limqareb> is 2 gb ram good?
[08:58] <Phaqui> but I only got a 2GB HD.....
[08:58] <The_Machine> yes
[08:58] <The_Machine> it's more than good
[08:58] <variant> Phaqui: Phaqui a 2gb hd?
[08:58] <The_Machine> it's excessive.
[08:58] <The_Machine> :P
[08:58] <Phaqui> yes... variant
[08:58] <The_Machine> for windows 95
[08:58] <limqareb> i have 2 gb for windows
[08:58] <RichW> and how come nobody answers my question.. anyone here upgraded from dapper to edgy?
[08:59] <variant> Phaqui: you can install on that.. jus tbe carefull about what packages you install
[08:59] <The_Machine> RichW - yes
[08:59] <Phaqui> okay
[08:59] <variant> RichW: yes i have
[08:59] <Phaqui> I'll give it a try
[08:59] <RichW> gksu "update-manager -c", will it install and configure upstart?
[08:59] <Phaqui> need to get my hands dirtey first tho
[08:59] <variant> RichW: i did it months ago though and have just kept it up to date
[08:59] <Phaqui> that is
[08:59] <rucoma> Alguien que hable espaol?
[08:59] <boybach> That did not work ?
[08:59] <RichW> i want upstart for the extra speed boost
[08:59] <shwag_> where can I find a FAST torrent for ubuntu 6.10
[09:00] <variant> RichW: there is not much of a speed boost at the momment as it still uses all the old init scripts
[09:00] <RichW> :O
[09:00] <RichW> really?!?!
[09:00] <n1gke> boybach, well can you post some where I can see you xorg.conf file ?
[09:00] <RichW> i didnt know that
[09:00] <razormade> shwag_: Use th eftp! it was fat for me!!
[09:00] <variant> RichW: yes, once they have been moved to the new system then you will start to see improvements
[09:00] <RichW> guess I gotta wait for them to get fixed?
[09:00] <variant> RichW: infact, some people have noticed speed decrease..
[09:00] <variant> RichW: but this is temporary
[09:00] <n1gke> boybach, hang on a sec....
[09:01] <boybach> the biggest resolution on any Depth in the file is 1024x768
[09:01] <MasseR> !pastebin
[09:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:01] <limqareb> failed to construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture'
[09:01] <limqareb> i get that error
[09:02] <stasislove> hi! iv installed beryl and when i try to start it with beryl-manager everything just freeze but no error or anythig, and the wierd sing is that is does start sometime but very seldom, any ideas whats wrong?
[09:02] <cartucho> #ubuntu-xgl
[09:02] <RichW> stasislove: its experimental software..
[09:03] <Nagfire> can you take me a other server
[09:03] <klm-> can I make ubuntu cycle a wallpaper folder so that the wallpaper would be different everytime I boot the computer
[09:03] <Nagfire> to speake
[09:03] <variant> stasislove: as cartucho says, ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[09:03] <stasislove> RichW, yes but it might be possible to fix it so it starts every time anyway....
[09:03] <Nagfire> please
[09:03] <joevandyk> Is runlevel 3 the console only one?  cuz when I do 'sudo init 3', X is still up
[09:03] <stasislove> variant, aha he was talking to me
[09:03] <Nagfire> k
[09:03] <Nagfire> you dont want
[09:03] <variant> klm-: yes, you can use the built in or use an external program to download random images and cycle them
[09:03] <RichW> stasislove: good luck!
[09:03] <Nagfire> please help me
[09:04] <n1gke> boybach, can you send your xorg.conf to pastebin please ?
[09:04] <cartucho> joevandyk: init 3 will not "kill"your X,  but will kill your gdm
[09:04] <joevandyk> cartucho: gdm is still running
[09:04] <variant> klm-: i use http://www.webilder.org/ it is very good
[09:04] <boybach> pastebin what that.
[09:04] <cartucho> joevandyk: and if you quit him does he starts again ?
[09:04] <variant> klm-: you will hav eto compile the source though, it is very easy
[09:04] <n1gke> !pastebin
[09:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:05] <stasislove> RichW, thanks, but no answere there yet =\
[09:05] <luisbg> just plugged a new panoramic screen and things look squished vertically... and the resolutions I have to choose from in the system menu are all 4:3 not panoramic... what should I do?
[09:06] <RichW> stasislove: hah dont ask me, i spent a whole day trying to get it working with my 9800 pro.. ATI based cards and XGL dont like me much.
[09:06] <cartucho> luisbg: well try to down your vertical res
[09:06] <luisbg> cartucho, how?
[09:06] <stasislove> RichW, ATI dont seem to like anyone running linux =)
[09:07] <cartucho> luisbg: say if you use 1024x768 try 1024x800 and stuff like that
[09:07] <A[D] minS> !info scripts
[09:07] <ubotu> Package scripts does not exist in any distro I know
[09:07] <cartucho> i have ati running nice
[09:07] <A[D] minS> !info irc
[09:07] <ubotu> Package irc does not exist in any distro I know
[09:07] <luisbg> cartucho, but in the system menu> resolution, I don't have a 1204x800 option
[09:07] <RichW> stasislove: my ATI card didnt even work with vista, let alone linux.
[09:07] <A[D] minS> letme pvt better than flood main
[09:07] <n1gke> !info xirc
[09:07] <ubotu> Package xirc does not exist in any distro I know
[09:07] <axl> hi, does anyone know, how i can start scripts on bootup with upstart??
[09:07] <cartucho> luisbg: edit your xorg.conf or change the monitor model,
[09:08] <luisbg> where the monitor model?
[09:08] <cartucho> luisbg: i dont know i just set everything manually in xorg.conf
[09:08] <klm-> variant: thanks! I'll try that
[09:08] <limqareb> wtf i tried every single solution
[09:08] <RichW> A[D] minS: use a pastebin
[09:08] <limqareb> still no sound
[09:08] <luisbg> cartucho, ok cool! thanks for the help
[09:08] <limqareb> wtf
[09:09] <cartucho> luisbg: in xorg.conf you will have a DefaultDepth entry with some resolutions, try to add some
[09:09] <stasislove> RichW, vista... i dont even consider that as an operating system i would ever try =)
[09:09] <mirak> does anyone knows how to rebuild a kernel image package from the source package and a specific target ?
[09:09] <axl> noone familiar with upstart??
[09:10] <limqareb> :|
[09:10] <luisbg> cartucho, yeah yeah... know what you mean? since my ubuntu install got the screen model perfectly, thought maybe there was a command to do that
[09:10] <stasislove> RichW, will keep xp for games as long as possible... perhaps then wine will be good enough to run games in linux =)
[09:10] <luisbg> cartucho, but by hand is good enough ;)
[09:10] <A[D] minS> RichW: sorry ?why u tell me pastebin?
[09:10] <RichW> stasislove: its crap, i need windows for some cirtain applications though. Was just trying it out tho :)
[09:10] <zyclop> axl, man upstart?
[09:10] <matahari> hi
[09:10] <limqareb> !sound
[09:10] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems  and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:10] <axl> already tried, but i cant get the job working...
[09:11] <g333k_work> Hello, I have installed another ubuntu, then I deleted that partition, now my grub says "Error 22" and i doesnt load, how can I solve it?
[09:11] <RichW> stasislove: I was quite shocked to see Medal oh honor allied assult run on Wine.. it ran really well, not sure about other games.
[09:11] <matahari> are there some bootscripts in ubuntu edgy, where i can add my commands? and a stopscript too?
[09:12] <stasislove> RichW. well steam needs better support and i must test Civ 4 and cossacs 2, if those work well i need windows no more =)
[09:12] <zyclop> g333k_work, was it the partition with /boot/grub?
[09:12] <RichW> A[D] minS: You paste a load of text on a website and give the link.... they are called pastebins..like: www.pastebin.ca
[09:12] <cartucho> matahari: /etc/rc.local ?
[09:12] <erUSUL> matahari: bootmisc.sh
[09:12] <g333k_work> zyclop, nop
[09:13] <erUSUL> ??
[09:13] <RichW> stasislove: opengl based games should run best.
[09:13] <zyclop> have you looked up error 22 yet?
[09:13] <d-snp> hey, edgy destroyed my xserver pretty bad, I get the no screens found error but the standard solution doesn't work :(
[09:13] <A[D] minS> RichW i know about it but am asking why
[09:13] <matahari> i mean something like /etc/conf.d/local.start and local.stop
[09:13] <A[D] minS> :D
[09:14] <A[D] minS> any way i think i missunderstood when i said will flood da main
[09:14] <cartucho> matahari: but why do u need to create another init ?
[09:14] <sven-tek> if /etc/default/rcS UTC=yes and /etc/timezone are identical in my dapper and my edgy partition, what else can cause the 1 hour difference between the systems?
[09:14] <cartucho> matahari: to mount stuffs in different places ?
[09:14] <A[D] minS> i was talking to ubotu just to leave man and open pvt to ask as much as i can
[09:14] <matahari> not a new init
[09:14] <d-snp> argh why do so many join and leave here :\
[09:14] <stasislove> RichiH, ye... *got to go*.
[09:14] <erUSUL> matahari: create it yourself use /etc/init.d/skeleton as a base and use update-rc.d to add it to init
[09:14] <matahari> cartucho: to load drivers used for parallels
[09:15] <g333k_work> zyclop, I think the error is because grub is looking for the 2nd ubuntu but it is deleted now, how can I solve it?
[09:15] <cartucho> matahari: do what erUSUL told then.
[09:15] <matahari> ok, thanks
[09:15] <cartucho> matahari: but measure if you really need this first ;0
[09:15] <The_Machine> I would like to 'create a shortcut' to a file that's on an SMB share.  how can i easily do that with gnome?  (If i right click on the file in the SMB share, and say "Make link" it doesn't let me) "unsupported operation"
[09:15] <zyclop> g333k_work, I'm googling for it atm
[09:15] <pOrnstAr> hey... i have this bug on kubuntu edgy, using a fresh install... i have an ati x700 mobile and when i switch from Xorg to console
[09:15] <aoupi> d-snp: you can tell most IRC clients to not show who joins and leaves
[09:15] <pOrnstAr> the screen is all messed up
[09:15] <pOrnstAr> anyone can help?
[09:16] <boybach> nlgke: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30084/
[09:16] <d-snp> aoupi: just did thanks
[09:16] <nolimitsoya> how do i remove a package and force a removal of all its dependencies using apt?
[09:16] <n1gke> boybach, okay, let me go look.
[09:16] <ippa> beeing totally new to ubuntu .. what kind of timeframe can one expect to get a bug like https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/22985 fixed?
[09:17] <ippa> it's currently the showstopper for my first ubuntuinstall
[09:17] <epsilon_> AHH this automatix thing is very very cool!
[09:17] <LjL> !automatix
[09:17] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[09:17] <epsilon_> lol.
[09:17] <epsilon_> :D:D
[09:18] <d-snp> so I'm trying to boot edgy, but it keeps giving the no screens found error, it seems module abi major version 0 mismatches with server's version 1, I use gflrx
[09:18] <dob1> there is an ubuntu package with 2.6.18 ?
[09:18] <Jas-Nix> I can not figure this out.. I installed x86_64 ubuntu edgy, everything worked ok, I then installed network-manager-gnome
[09:18] <Jas-Nix> and system hard locked
[09:18] <axl> does anyone know how i can kick upstart from my edgy and use the good ols sysvinit??
[09:18] <Jas-Nix> now when I try to reinstall, the install freezes at 70%
[09:18] <Skyrail> Anyone got dual screens running on Ubuntu?
[09:18] <nolimitsoya> ippa, how can it be a showstopper if it can be fixed through simplet xorg.conf editing?
[09:19] <ippa> nolimitsoya: it is? read all ppls descriptions of the bug without seeing a sollution
[09:19] <d-snp> Skyrail: did you check ubuntuguide.org?
[09:19] <Skyrail> or does anyone know how to set up dual screens in ubuntu?
[09:19] <n1gke> boybach, looks good. Did you try default depth of 16 ?
[09:19] <n1gke> !smooth scrolling
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smooth scrolling - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <RedRose> how do i configure what starts at bootup?
[09:20] <n1gke> !scrolling
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scrolling - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <nolimitsoya> ippa, i see someone claiming to have a fix in the first post...
[09:20] <ippa> nolimitsoya: to make it clear, it's a totally new install.. I boot the CD, choose first alternative "install" .. and it dies (black screen) after 2 m ins.
[09:20] <RedRose> !upstart
[09:20] <ubotu> Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[09:20] <boybach> yeah no change I did notice in the log there is no resolution above 1024x768 isn't that the problem ?
[09:20] <mattik> What's wrong ATI Settings in Edgy to me? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30085/
[09:20] <nolimitsoya> ippa, use the alternate install cd, and do a text mode install
[09:20] <jStefan> RedRose, man update-rc.d
[09:21] <iMax> hi
[09:21] <RedRose> jStefan:but what about upstart?
[09:21] <n1gke> boybach, when I changed my default to 24, it opened up to1820x1024 and back
[09:21] <n1gke> that shud be
[09:21] <Skyrail> d-snp: heh, I'll give it a go :D
[09:21] <jStefan> RedRose, afaik upstart still uses the symlinks
[09:21] <n1gke> 1280x1024 and back.
[09:21] <aoupi> RedRose: it's backwards compatible with the old init
[09:21] <ippa> nolimitsoya: where's this "alternative" install-cd?
[09:21] <d-snp> this is stupid, I can't see anything, everyone keeps asking questions, and I'm at 640x480 on a 24" screen :P
[09:22] <boybach> my default is 24.
[09:22] <nolimitsoya> ippa, on the ubuntu mirrors, right with the desktop cd :)
[09:22] <n1gke> boybach, I was stuck in 1024x768 for a bit until I researched it out/
[09:22] <nolimitsoya> ippa, one moment, ill get youa link
[09:22] <epsilon_> !easyubuntu
[09:22] <ubotu> easyubuntu is easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/  -  For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[09:22] <Jas-Nix> LjL: do you use 64 bit or 32bit ?
[09:22] <n1gke> boybach, I am trying to remember where the setting for smooth scrolling is to turn it off......
[09:22] <AsheD> how does one view the setup of a software RAID?
[09:23] <ippa> nolimitsoya: think I got it
[09:23] <squidly> AsheD: cat /proc/mdstats
[09:23] <nolimitsoya> ippa, http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso
[09:23] <ippa> mm tnx
[09:23] <SirKillalot> do I have to recompile the fglrx modules only when I update to a newer kernel version or also when I path my current kernel?
[09:23] <jStefan> ippa, consider using torrents
[09:23] <RedRose> also, what's up with Virtual terminals in eft? mine don't work
[09:23] <The_Machine> I would like to 'create a shortcut' to a file that's on an SMB share.  how can i easily do that with gnome?  (If i right click on the file in the SMB share, and say "Make link" it doesn't let me) "unsupported operation"
[09:23] <searey29> Hello all can I chime in
[09:23] <RedRose> they give me the framebuffer
[09:23] <RedRose> !vt
[09:23] <ippa> mm, but im hitting a .se-mirror
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <AsheD> squidly:: can I see what drives make it up?
[09:24] <zyclop> g333k_work, just a hypothesis: it might help to remove the entry for the non existant OS from /boot/grub/menu.lst (backup first)
[09:24] <nolimitsoya> RedRose, apt-get install screen?
[09:24] <aoupi> RedRose: is it all funky looking or do you actualy see text?
[09:24] <squidly> AsheD: umm... let me think for a sec
[09:24] <RedRose> done
[09:25] <AsheD> my friend has a 4-drive RAID5 setup atm, and one of the drives is buggy
[09:25] <SirKillalot> do I have to recompile the fglrx modules only when I update to a newer kernel version or also when I path my current kernel?
[09:25] <AsheD> I am helping him out while he is at work
[09:25] <ippa> nolimitsoya: there's no way to use the orig-install-cd but get thoose lines into the conf before graphic install starts?
[09:25] <squidly> AsheD: let me look up the mdadm command really quick
[09:25] <iMax> virtual terminals on edgy are broken here too.....at least the switch back to X11....it then sort of crashes, black screen, no reaction anymore
[09:25] <RedRose> aoupi:funy looking
[09:25] <squidly> but i think its something like mdadm --list
[09:25] <KennyTheFreak> How do i cross compile Cedega to ubuntu 64bit?
[09:25] <nolimitsoya> ippa, no
[09:26] <RedRose> when i got to VT-1 on CTRL-ALT-F1, it gives me bars
[09:26] <aoupi> RedRose: try removing 'splash' from the kernel argument in /boot/grub/menu.lst, you wont get a pretty splash screen at boot, but that fixed it for me
[09:26] <squidly> try madam --misc -Q /dev/md#
[09:26] <sven-tek> if /etc/default/rcS UTC=yes and /etc/timezone are identical in my dapper and my edgy partition, what else can cause the 1 hour difference between the systems?
[09:26] <pOrnstAr> aoupi: no it doesn't
[09:27] <pOrnstAr> :\
[09:27] <EagleS675> I have firewall firestarter how the heck can I do this : outbound from 1 to 5000 (port) to open that ports
[09:27] <aoupi> pOrnstAr: what? it did fix it what me
[09:27] <nolimitsoya> how do i remove a package and force a removal of all its dependencies using apt?
[09:27] <LjL> Jas-Nix: 32
[09:27] <pOrnstAr> this is a f... issue! :\
[09:27] <LjL> nolimitsoya: use apt-get autoremove, if you're on edgy
[09:28] <n1gke> boybach, does this happen in all screens or just in certain screens/programs ?
[09:28] <pOrnstAr> hey... i have this bug on kubuntu edgy, using a fresh install... i have an ati x700 mobile and when i switch from Xorg to console
[09:28] <pOrnstAr> the screen is all messed up
[09:28] <pOrnstAr> anyone can help?
[09:28] <nolimitsoya> LjL, that dont work on ubuntu-desktop...
[09:28] <Jas-Nix> LjL: hrmm ok
[09:28] <AsheD> ok, so it shows 3 of the 4 drives as being active, 1 being removed.  The removed one also does not show a partition in /dev, I suppose those are conencted?
[09:28] <Jas-Nix> it seems there's issues with the 64bit livecd
[09:28] <Jas-Nix> but it could just be my system
[09:28] <LjL> nolimitsoya, no, because that would imply removing everything
[09:28] <aoupi> pOrnstAr: see what I wrote to RedRose
[09:28] <joevandyk> I've got an nvidia 7800gtx card, but glxgears is only showing 680 fps or so.  Direct rendering is turned on.  Any ideas?
[09:29] <pOrnstAr> aoupi: been there done that
[09:29] <ippa> nolimitsoya: omg, I pasted the wrong bugpage ;) ... https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/67487
[09:29] <ippa> is it
[09:29] <nolimitsoya> LjL, more basic stuff in included in ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard
[09:29] <pOrnstAr> same shit
[09:29] <joevandyk> I've tried installing both the nvidia and nvidia beta drivers.
[09:29] <EagleS675> well you guys know ?
[09:29] <aoupi> pOrnstAr: ok, then I have no idea
[09:29] <nolimitsoya> is just want to get rid of the desktop stuf, and have a very basic custom install
[09:29] <nolimitsoya> *-s
[09:29] <pOrnstAr> f'in bug!
[09:29] <jStefan> joevandyk, test a 3d game instead, glxgears is not a benchmark ;)
[09:29] <ippa> nolimitsoya: something with edgy and ATI-cards
[09:30] <joevandyk> jStefan: is there one in the repository somewhere?
[09:30] <VigoFuse> To use Ruby in Ubuntu can I just copy from a CD, or download another version into the Ubuntu?
[09:30] <jStefan> joevandyk, probably, outside the repos you could consider something like the Quake4 Demo
[09:30] <Skyrail> d-snp: screen still messed up?
[09:31] <nolimitsoya> ippa, still, get the alternate cd, use vesa if fglrx doesnt work
[09:31] <LjL> nolimitsoya, i understand your reasoning, but the problem is that, as soon as you remove *any* package, ubuntu-desktop will be removed -- now if ubuntu-desktop's dependencies (as installed by the ubuntu CD installer) were marked as automatically installed, removing ubuntu-desktop would mean removing them all as soon as an apt-get autoremove is issued
[09:31] <EagleS675> will please someone help me on my problem ? :\
[09:31] <LjL> nolimitsoya, the only real way to fix this would be to have "real" metapackages, i.e. distinguish metapackages from "normal" packages in some way. currently, metapackages like ubuntu-desktop are just normal packages that 1) are empty and 2) have lots of dependencies
[09:32] <nolimitsoya> LjL, im not quarreling with the chioce of not manking everything under ubuntu-desktop autoremovable, i just want to force it to uninstall :)
[09:32] <LjL> nolimitsoya, well, you can't. you can be clever and remove some packages that will wipe out of a lot of stuff that depends on them -- like for isntance libgnome
[09:32] <boybach> nlgke: as soon as I log into the machine.
[09:32] <nolimitsoya> LjL, or is there some intelligent way of using the alternate install cd todo a package by package install?
[09:33] <rambo3> what to do when rm -rf is not working with root
[09:33] <jStefan> nolimitsoya, you can install with "server" option or ubuntu-server
[09:33] <nolimitsoya> rambo3, cry, long and hard :P
[09:33] <phos> hi, wondering about my wireless card
[09:33] <LjL> nolimitsoya, i'm not sure, since i haven't used the alternate cd since breezy (when it wasn't alternate anyway), but that might be. or the server cd for that matter.
[09:33] <phos> belkin usb
[09:33] <nolimitsoya> jStefan, and this is parsed at boot from the alternate install?
[09:33] <nolimitsoya> :)
[09:33] <phos> its being recognised by the system
[09:34] <phos> but is loading 2 interfaces from it
[09:34] <phos> wmaster0
[09:34] <phos> and wlan0
[09:34] <LjL> nolimitsoya, or just somehow get a list of everything that a fresh ubuntu has installed, and mark them as autoremovables
[09:34] <jStefan> nolimitsoya, i dont remember the exact process
[09:34] <dooglus> nolimitsoya: you can use 'debfoster' to remove everything which ubuntu-server doesn't depend upon
[09:34] <phos> which is causing problems when i try to ndis wrap the drivers
[09:34] <phos> any ideas?
[09:34] <filipescrooff> isso mesmo cara...
[09:34] <Homer_Linux> hiya ppl upgrades to edgy and lost the disk management from system>adminstation and idea ppl
[09:34] <nolimitsoya> jStefan, ok, thank you anyway :)
[09:34] <filipescrooff> alguem a fala portugues?
[09:34] <nolimitsoya> dooglus, how would i do that?
[09:34] <EagleS675> I have firewall firestarter how the heck can I do this : outbound from 1 to 5000 (port) to open that ports
[09:35] <jStefan> dooglus, ubuntu-server does not have a meta-packages like the other distributions, afaik
[09:35] <LjL> nolimitsoya: oh, yes, that's an idea as well. debfoster works by asking you which packages you want to *keep* -- so if you tell it that the only package you want is, say, ubuntu-minimal, it should remove anything that's not depended upon by it
[09:35] <JoeMama> hello, does anyone have camfrog running like it should inside ubuntu (vmware, wine ?? )
[09:35] <dooglus> nolimitsoya: install debfoster, install ubuntu-server, run debfoster.  it'll ask you a bunch of questions.  answer 'y' about keeping ubuntu-server and 'p' (for purge) for everything else
[09:35] <nolimitsoya> jStefan, this could be done with ubuntu-minimal, so thats no problem :)
[09:35] <quintin> where is grub.conf ???
[09:36] <d-snp> Skyrail: what do you mean? mines messed up yeah :P
[09:36] <jStefan> nolimitsoya, it would be something like that, but beware of missing other important packages
[09:36] <LjL> !pt | filipescrooff
[09:36] <ubotu> filipescrooff: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[09:36] <livingdaylight> quintin: /boot/grub
[09:36] <nolimitsoya> dooglus, thank you! :D illplay around in vmware a bit first, i think :)
[09:36] <jStefan> nolimitsoya, ubuntu-minimal does not include the kernels
[09:36] <dave> Hey I have a question regarding the install process:  I am looking to install ubuntu on my server.  So I have 3 SCSI drives connected and have made /dev/sda1 my /boot partition.../dev/sda2 my swap.  Now the /dev/sda3 and sdb and sdc I want to have LVM control.  I have the alternative install CD.  How do i go aout this?
[09:36] <nolimitsoya> jStefan, but ubuntu-standard should?
[09:36] <joevandyk> how does twinview differ from xinerama?
[09:36] <joevandyk> and do I care if i want to rotate my monitors?
[09:36] <jStefan> nolimitsoya, don't know, i think not
[09:36] <linopil> irc.freenone.net and irc.ubuntu.com are one ?
[09:37] <jStefan> nolimitsoya, just be cautious
[09:37] <super> fala filipe!!!!!
[09:37] <dooglus> nolimitsoya: it seems there's no package called 'ubuntu-server' - but ubuntu-{minimal,standard,whatever} should do the trick
[09:37] <quintin> livingdaylight: no it's not.  where do I put kernel options to change ramdisk size at?
[09:37] <phos> any idea why i have 2 wireless interfaces from the same card, wmaster0 and wlan0
[09:37] <phos> ?
[09:37] <nolimitsoya> dooglus, i thought the same, but if they dont include the kernel thats a showstopper :/
[09:37] <dooglus> nolimitsoya: you don't need to be too cautious.  if you mess it up you can always boot from a live cd and reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[09:37] <jStefan> nolimitsoya, might be easier to read about the "server" option of the alternate CD
[09:38] <dooglus> nolimitsoya: debfoster will present you with a list of the stuff it wants to remove before it does anything.  you have to confirm that it's OK to remove it all.
[09:38] <dooglus> !info debfoster edgy
[09:38] <ubotu> debfoster: Install only wanted Debian packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6-2 (edgy), package size 35 kB, installed size 212 kB
[09:38] <nolimitsoya> dooglus, vmware is my friend, but it would eat up a lot of time, and this needs to be done by tomorrow. its already 21:30 here :)
[09:38] <dob1> someone have some experience with a network card mcp61 nvidia?
[09:38] <LjL> nolimitsoya, actually, doing an "apt-get rdepends linux" (and the various kernel image packages) seems to show that *nothing* depends on linux
[09:38] <LjL> i mean apt-cache
[09:39] <nolimitsoya> LjL, that seems a strange choice to me...
[09:39] <dooglus> LjL: I don't even have the 'linux' package installed, so it seems that nothing (much) does depend on it
[09:39] <jStefan> LjL, same can be proven by deborphan, which will show the kernels on the top of the food chain
[09:39] <joereth> can a newb get help for ubuntu 6.10 here?
[09:39] <strafe> hey
[09:39] <Tonren> Hey guys, running gksu "update-manager -c" doesn't show a 6.06 -> 6.10 update option.
[09:39] <LjL> dooglus, but i checked against more specific packages such as linux-image-generic and linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic as well
[09:39] <Tonren> How do I upgraded distro?
[09:39] <zyclop> joereth, just ask
[09:40] <joereth> ok
[09:40] <strafe> how do i access sites like singingfool.com
[09:40] <zyclop> Tonren, apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:40] <erUSUL> !limewire
[09:40] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[09:40] <LjL> nolimitsoya, well, yeah, though you can probably just keep that one in mind and keep linux as a manually installed package
[09:40] <jStefan> Tonren, make sure you have an updated 6.06 so that you have the latest version of update-manager
[09:40] <zyclop> Tonren, twice
[09:41] <joereth> i have a dell d620 and everything works well so far except my video resolution is not correct It only lists 1024 X 768 I have NO idea where toeven start as far as drivers and whatnot.
[09:41] <LjL> nolimitsoya, what are you trying to accomplish anyway? if you want a server, perhaps it'd be easier to just reinstall using the server edition
[09:41] <macchiea> lets say I am deploying Ubuntu to a 100 machines. How would I install the same set of programs on all of them with minimal effort?
[09:41] <ippa> nolimitsoya: seems like some ppl have solved it with the alternative CD yes.. but that's only in slow vesa mode (for others, that didn't work either) .. while it might be the way forward right now, do you have any oppinoun on how long a Critical ubuntubug takes to fix?
[09:41] <nolimitsoya> LjL, a stripped down custom live cd
[09:41] <Tonren> jStefan: zyclop: The only thing keeping me from being 100% up-to-date is that Cafuego's bcm43xx won't install (I get a "size mismatch" error)
[09:41] <Tonren> Other than that I'm up to date, but it's not upgrading.
[09:42] <jStefan> macchiea, cloning the drive seems like a good option
[09:42] <nolimitsoya> ippa, that depends on how seious it is, but critical bugs are given a lot of manpower...
[09:42] <recon0> I'm trying to run the command "openssl s_client -starttls smtp -CApath /usr/lib/ssl/certs/ -connect smtp.gmail.com:25" to test my mail (I'm trying to set up postfix/fetchmail with gmail) but I get error "CONNECTED(00000003) \n 7130:error:140770FC:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:unknown protocol:s23_clnt.c:567:".
[09:42] <zyclop> joereth, where does it list the resolutions?
[09:42] <Ikci__> QuakeNet
[09:42] <ippa> nolimitsoya: right, it has been marked Critical.. so we're talking about maybe some days -> 1 week here?
[09:43] <nolimitsoya> ippa, as i said, that depends on how hard it is to fix...
[09:43] <ippa> mm
[09:43] <jStefan> !version | Tonren try this
[09:43] <ubotu> Tonren try this: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[09:43] <Le_Croat0Curde> y a t il des codeur asm sous linux ?
[09:43] <cafuego> Tonren: Yeah, working on it. Just downlaod manually and use 'dpkg -i' on it.
[09:43] <joereth> system>preferences>screen resolution
[09:43] <strafe> anyone know?
[09:43] <LjL> nolimitsoya, never made one, but i suppose in that case you'd want to make your own "nolimitsoya-desktop" metapackage
[09:43] <VigoFuse> On install of 6.alt will I get the partion option then?
[09:43] <Le_Croat0Curde> hi
[09:43] <zyclop> joereth, where you asked to enter your password?
[09:43] <Le_Croat0Curde> NASM LINUX ?
[09:43] <joereth> no
[09:43] <LjL> !fr | Le_Croat0Curde
[09:43] <ubotu> Le_Croat0Curde: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:43] <nolimitsoya> LjL, or just install all the packages i want manualy, but that requires i get rid of all the stuff i _dont_ want first...
[09:43] <Tonren> jStefan: Uh... I have Dapper, dude.
[09:44] <tecta> what kernel is stable on ubuntu?
[09:44] <atla> hi
[09:44] <atla> does someone know when SDL_Net 1.2.6 will make it into ubuntu?
[09:44] <Tonren> cafuego: How do I tell apt to stop worrying about it?
[09:44] <zyclop> joereth, is there a button for administrator mode or something like that?
[09:44] <jStefan> Tonren, you have dapper-security and dapper-updates in your sources.list, correct?
[09:44] <joereth> Zyclop let me check real quick
[09:44] <Tonren> jStefan: Yep.
[09:44] <nolimitsoya> LjL, are ubuntu and debian enough alike that i could just use an ubuntu sources.list for debian netinstall?
[09:44] <LjL> nolimitsoya, i do think that debfoster is your friend there.
[09:45] <LjL> nolimitsoya, ugh, i wouldn't think
[09:45] <aSt3raL> are there any known issues with edgy and amd64 turion cpus?
[09:45] <joereth> Zyclop no there isn't
[09:45] <nolimitsoya> ok...
[09:45] <sidewalk> im having problem with  in default ubuntu-installation
[09:45] <sidewalk> how do i get this working?
[09:45] <Tonren> cafuego: By the way... I'm not sure if you're aware of this already, or if you care, but I have noticed that ndiswrapper is MUCH more sensitive to access points.  Often, bcm43xx will detect them but not be able to connect.  If I switch to ndiswrapper, I can connect to them.
[09:45] <tecta> why doesn't ubuntu have many packages in the repository?
[09:45] <nolimitsoya> sidewalk, dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg
[09:45] <LjL> !packages | tecta
[09:45] <ubotu> tecta: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[09:45] <mirak> is there hotplug in ubuntu ?
[09:45] <LjL> sidewalk, in KDE i have a "keyboard layout" control panel applet. i'm sure Gnome has the same
[09:46] <nolimitsoya> sidewalk, choose 105key keyboard and swedish layout
[09:46] <sidewalk> nolimitsoya: its only when i use the terminal window
[09:46] <sidewalk> and connect to my shell, that it doesnt work
[09:46] <zyclop> joereth, okay, then i have no idea what to do
[09:46] <sidewalk> with my IRC-client of the shell
[09:46] <tecta> LjL, well so much stuff comes up for kernel
[09:46] <ippa> sidewalk: spec sidewalk :)
[09:46] <sidewalk> spec ippa :P
[09:46] <joereth> LOL ok thanks
[09:46] <Spec> moo?
[09:46] <Tonren> jStefan: I was going to install manually, but apt-get update exploded when I did an s/dapper/edgy/.
[09:46] <VigoFuse> Thank you kindly
[09:46] <zyclop> joereth, except manually editing xorg.conf
[09:47] <ippa> spec glassbilen.net!
[09:47] <joereth> hmmmm
[09:47] <jStefan> Tonren, i think you should try to fix apt before anything else
[09:47] <aSt3raL> are there any known amd64 edgy installer issues?
[09:47] <joereth> sounds a little scary
[09:47] <LjL> tecta, hm, the keymap for console is asked during installation... of hands i don't remember how it's set afterwards
[09:47] <veleno> hello everyone. i'm running edgy eft, and i can't get my usb logitech mx518 mouse working correctly. anyone here ?
[09:47] <joereth> maybe I should stick with my old familiar windows xp for a while longer
[09:47] <Tonren> jStefan: Apt isn't broken...
[09:47] <mirak> !ubuto blacklist
[09:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuto blacklist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:47] <joereth> familiar reality
[09:47] <jStefan> Tonren, "exploded?"
[09:47] <mirak> how do I blacklit a module ?
[09:47] <Tonren> jStefan: It only breaks when I do an s/dapper/edgy/.
[09:48] <zyclop> joereth, hey, dont give up so easily
[09:48] <Samus_Aran> veleno: is the light on the bottom of the mouse on ?
[09:48] <jStefan> Tonren, what is the error?
[09:48] <mirak> are there only newbies in this channel ?
[09:48] <joereth> well I am just frustrated cause I have no idea where to even start
[09:48] <freshmouse> Can you help me with a LITTLE problem in GNOME? ... I don't know why, but in Nautilus are emblems of symlinks showed so big. I don't know where I could edit it. I tried to use GConf, but I was lost: so many items... Can you help me?
[09:48] <freshmouse> Thx.
[09:48] <zyclop> joereth, there are other people with more clue than me in here. ask one of them
[09:48] <veleno> Samus_Aran, sorry, i should have been more precise. i can't get my mouse wheel working!
[09:48] <strafe> how do i access sites like singingfool.com?
[09:48] <aSt3raL> is there a place to find info about amd64 installation problems?
[09:48] <aSt3raL> specifically hanging on install
[09:49] <freshmouse>  http://freshmouse.ic.cz/screenshot.jpg -- on this screenshot you can see the problem.
[09:49] <Samus_Aran> veleno: ah.  "sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf", scroll down to the input device section for your mouse
[09:49] <Samus_Aran> veleno: and add this to it: Option      "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
[09:49] <Tonren> jStefan: reproducing the error....
[09:49] <dio> Please help! How open subtitles in Totem?
[09:49] <bRutEado> Hi! I have a cd with the KUBUNTU LINUX 6.06 but it don't start because my computer is old and don't function with the boot. Because of that now i made a dislette that start the boot menu. When i choice the cd rom it give me a error
[09:49] <mabus_> how can I get my asr-2110s raid controller to work with ubuntu?
[09:50] <Samus_Aran> veleno: if you have a seven button mouse and want to use the second other wheel, you will need a different line
[09:50] <phos> any ideas why im getting 2 wireless interfaces from the same card?
[09:50] <joereth> i need some help with a video resolution/driver problem
[09:50] <epp> phos, maybe somethings wrong?
[09:50] <joereth> i have a dell d620 and everything works well so far except my video resolution is not correct It only lists 1024 X 768 I have NO idea where toeven start as far as drivers and whatnot.
[09:50] <Samus_Aran> veleno: the "z axis mapping" tells X which "buttons" on the mouse you want to use for scrolling windows, that being buttons 4 and 5 (buttons 1-3 are left/middle/right)
[09:51] <jStefan> !ifixres | joereth
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ifixres - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <jStefan> !fixres | joereth
[09:51] <ubotu> joereth: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:51] <epp> joereth, what is your chipset?
[09:51] <phos> epp; i put the wireless card (belkin usb) in and i get two interfaces
[09:51] <knix> joereth: 915resolution
[09:51] <phos> wmaster0 and wlan0
[09:51] <joereth> thankx
[09:51] <epp> phos, does it work?
[09:51] <joereth>  i'll try these things
[09:51] <phos> no
[09:51] <Tobberoth> My ubuntu freezes constantly :(
[09:51] <veleno> Samus_Aran, this is what i have at the moment in the relevant portion of xorg.cofn http://rafb.net/paste/results/ukfd5u16.html
[09:52] <joereth> but i am a total new so bear with me
[09:52] <phos> because ndiswrapper only wraps the drivers for wlan0
[09:52] <epp> phos, did you try the ubuntu forums?
[09:52] <Samus_Aran> veleno: if you don't have kate installed, just replace that with some other text editor you like to use.  you need to run it with "sudo" so that you are the root user who can save it in /etc/X11
[09:52] <phos> ive searched
[09:52] <veleno> Samus_Aran, yes.
[09:52] <freshmouse> Nobody knows?
[09:52] <Samus_Aran> veleno: just add it after that
[09:52] <Samus_Aran> veleno: you may also need to specify the number of buttons your mouse has, if X can't detect that properly
[09:53] <jStefan> freshmouse, try a different theme?
[09:53] <Samus_Aran> veleno: e.g. Option      "Buttons"       "5"
[09:53] <bRutEado> Hi! I have a cd with the KUBUNTU LINUX 6.06 but it don't start because my computer is old and don't function with the boot. Because of that now i made a dislette that start the boot menu. When i choice the cd rom it give me a error
[09:53] <lunaphyte_> grrr.  why does /etc/init.d/apache force-reload take so long sometimes?
[09:53] <lunaphyte_> s/apache/apach2/
[09:54] <FuriousRage> can i install the ubuntu cd 6.06 LTS as "server only" and not boot into the desktop on cd-boot? (only got a TNT2 32mb graphics card)
[09:54] <freshmouse> jStefan: I think it doesn't depend on the theme. I tried official GNOME icon set, but it didn't help me.
[09:54] <Samus_Aran> does anyone know how I can modify the dependancies of a .deb file I have ?  or how would I go about unpacking it for the sake of modifying the depend section and repacking it ?
[09:54] <Tonren> jStefan: It worked this time.
[09:54] <veleno> Samus_Aran, i added the zaxis option. do i need to reboot ?
[09:54] <jStefan> Tonren, update-manager is still preferred
[09:54] <Tonren> jStefan: But it doesn't work.
[09:55] <Samus_Aran> veleno: no, but you need to restart the X server.  log out of your desktop, and once you're in the display manager (the login screen) press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to kill it and reload it
[09:55] <Tonren> jStefan: Running gksu "update-manager -c" doesn't show an Edgy upgrade option.
[09:55] <glatzor> Tonren: Click on "check"
[09:55] <Samus_Aran> veleno: you can test it first, if you want
[09:55] <mamzers555> freshmouse; i think it is the theme that is the problem
[09:55] <Samus_Aran> veleno: by loading a second X server, just in case you typoed something and X won't load
[09:55] <mamzers555> try another and see if the problem still exist
[09:55] <veleno> Samus_Aran, ...how ? :-(
[09:56] <mew}{awmn> hello world!
[09:56] <freshmouse> Is here somebody who use the Tango icon set?
[09:56] <The_Machine> i'm experiencing a problem where my inbound vnc password seems to not work unless i go in and confim it before i leave for the night
[09:56] <Samus_Aran> veleno: "X :1" without the quotes, and then if it loads fine, use Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to kill it off
[09:56] <The_Machine> the server will be running, but it wont take the passwd
[09:57] <Samus_Aran> veleno: you will have a plain screen with a big X mouse cursor if it works
[09:57] <The_Machine> but if i type it in before I leave for the night, i can get in later
[09:57] <The_Machine> any ideas?
[09:57] <freshmouse> mamzers555: No. If I use Human icon theme, the problem is still here.
[09:57] <veleno> Samus_Aran, X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[09:57] <Samus_Aran> The_Machine: what do you mean by "confirm it" ?
[09:58] <Samus_Aran> veleno: hm.  well then put sudo in front of it =)  "sudo X :1"
[09:58] <mamzers555> freshmouse; then i have no idea, sry
[09:58] <Tonren> jStefan: glatzor: ... that worked this time, too.
[09:58] <Samus_Aran> I thought all users could run the X server, as it was that way on my previous distros
[09:58] <Tonren> I feel like there's an "if" statement buried deep within Ubuntu's source code that makes things break unless you're in #ubuntu.  XD
[09:59] <The_Machine> go to System>Preferences>remote desktop
[09:59] <Samus_Aran> Tonren: heh
[09:59] <The_Machine> and type it in again
[09:59] <jStefan> Tonren, i suggest using update-manager then
[09:59] <veleno> Samus_Aran, k, X does starts..but since there's no window there, i can't scroll
[09:59] <cafuego> Tonren: omg. Now we'll have to kill you.
[09:59] <Tonren> cafuego: The Ubuntulluminati!
[09:59] <glatzor> Tonren: update-manager does a lot of checks to ensure that the upgrade will work
[09:59] <Samus_Aran> veleno: I just wanted to make sure you didn't do a typo which would prevent X from reloading once you restart it
[09:59] <cafuego> TINC
[09:59] <Tonren> So, Edgy uses AIGLX, right?  I have an ATI card.  Does that mean I'm screwed?
[09:59] <mabus_> how can I get my asr-2110s raid controller to work with ubuntu?
[09:59] <Samus_Aran> veleno: as you might not be comfortable reconfiguring X from the console
[10:00] <glatzor> Tonren: The AIglx extension is on by default but there is no app that makes use of it :)
[10:00] <veleno> Samus_Aran, i've no problem to configure it via console, Vim is my friend :)
[10:00] <Tonren> glatzor: Cool.
[10:00] <glatzor> Tonren: so don't worry :)
[10:00] <Samus_Aran> veleno: anyhow, log out of your desktop and Ctrl+Alt+Backspace the login manager, and all should be well
[10:00] <Samus_Aran> veleno: ah okay =)
[10:00] <Samus_Aran> veleno: I use Vim as well
[10:00] <Tonren> Is Edgy totally awesome?
[10:00] <veleno> Samus_Aran, k, thanks, hope to have it fixed!
[10:01] <The_Machine> Tonren: i'm liking it
[10:01] <glatzor> Tonren: If you don't have any problems using dapper or don't need the latest version of your apps, you could also stay with dapper :)
[10:01] <The_Machine> samus - did you see what i typed?
[10:01] <Tonren> The_Machine: What kind of big differences are there?
[10:01] <mirak> what is the file type of INITRD ?
[10:01] <mirak> image
[10:01] <Samus_Aran> The_Machine: apparently not
[10:01] <Tonren> glatzor: Nah, I may as well stay up to date.
[10:01] <The_Machine> go to System>Preferences>remote desktop
[10:01] <Skyrail> I'm kinda lost with the ATi driver installing...I just want to enable two screens...
[10:01] <The_Machine> and typing it in again
[10:01] <The_Machine> that's what i mean by "confirm" password
[10:01] <glatzor> Tonren: you can read the release notes in update-manager :)
[10:01] <The_Machine> make sure it's liek..  IN there
[10:02] <The_Machine> tonren - upgrade of gnome, firefox 2..  um..  i like the splash screen..
[10:02] <The_Machine> i'm new to linux so i'm just liking everything right now
[10:02] <The_Machine> :)
[10:02] <Samus_Aran> The_Machine: VNC doesn't have a "System>Preferences>remote desktop".  that sounds like Microsoft's RDP (remote desktop protocol)
[10:02] <Tonren> Skyrail: Use "aticontrol".  It's in Applications -> Accessories.  I think installing ATI's proprietary thingummy will do it.
[10:02] <Tonren> The_Machine: Ah.  I was wondering why Firefox didn't update automatically (I downloaded it manually).
[10:02] <Samus_Aran> VNC passwords are created with the "vncpasswd" command
[10:02] <cntb> where is the vnc client
[10:03] <Tonren> Is the new GNOME faster?  (not that GNOME is horribly slow)
[10:03] <joeljkp> is there a way to reference a samba share on the command line?  like "cp \\share\file ."?
[10:03] <glatzor> Tonren: yes. and it consumes less memory
[10:03] <Tonren> cntb: You can use "vncviewer" on the command line
[10:03] <zcat[1] > seveas here?
[10:03] <cntb> k
[10:03] <The_Machine> it's pretty darn fast.
[10:03] <cntb> ty
[10:03] <Tonren> joeljkp: There is a draconian command-line interface for using SMB, but I haven' tbeen able to figure it out myself
[10:03] <joeljkp> tonren: hmm, so the only way is to mount the share as a directory?
[10:03] <Samus_Aran> joeljkp: Samba has a few command line clients for copying files
[10:03] <The_Machine> Samus_Aran: no, it does.  To get to remote desktop in gnome in ubuntu, you can go to System > Preferences > remote desktop
[10:03] <The_Machine> try it!! :)
[10:03] <The_Machine> hehe
[10:03] <Tonren> CRAP!  Not enough disk space on my root partition.
[10:04] <zcat[1] > Tonren: there's one in windows too.. nobody uses that either :)
[10:04] <Lattyware> !UUID
[10:04] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid"
[10:04] <The_Machine> it starts up a VNC server
[10:04] <The_Machine> :D
[10:04] <Seveas> zcat[1] , yes
[10:04] <cntb> also Apps internet> terminal Services>protocol vnc
[10:04] <The_Machine> SMB is a pita for me :(
[10:04] <Samus_Aran> joeljkp: you can additionally install LUFS, which is Linux Userland Filesystems, and one of the modules it provides allows you to dynamically browse the Microsoft Network
[10:04] <zcat[1] > Seveas: just wondering if you'd consider packaging google earth.. or are there redistribution restrictions?
[10:04] <joeljkp> samus_aran: hmm, cool, that in synaptic?
[10:04] <Samus_Aran> joeljkp: e.g. you can add /mnt/samba
[10:05] <Samus_Aran> joeljkp: I'm not sure if it's available prebuilt on Ubuntu or not, I can grab you their web site if you like
[10:05] <Tonren> Weird... guys, I have 1.21 GB free on my root partition.  Why would it tell me I don't have enough space?
[10:05] <Seveas> zcat[1] , there are but I'm working on a packages that uses the installer
[10:05] <gean_> i need the t1lib, can i install it through synaptic, or need to download the .deb-file and perform a local install ... ?!
[10:05] <zcat[1] > cool!
[10:05] <Tonren> /dev/hda1 is windows and /dev/hda3 is Linux.  Could it be looking at /dev/hda1, which is full?
[10:05] <Skyrail> anyone know how to add a second screen? and able to go above the 1024/768 resoluction
[10:05] <Samus_Aran> joeljkp: http://lufs.sourceforge.net/lufs/fs.html  << that's the list of filesystem modules it can create virtual filesystems for
[10:06] <The_Machine> or how about "Why does my VNC stop working nightly"
[10:06] <The_Machine> however you want to phrase it
[10:06] <The_Machine> it's like the password becomes invalidated after an evening of working just fine
[10:06] <joeljkp> samus_aran: yeah, but there's smbmount that does the same thing
[10:06] <Samus_Aran> joeljkp: that just mounts a single share, it is not a dynamic network browser
[10:07] <mirak> how can I mount an initrd ?
[10:07] <gean_> skyrail: panels->configure, add workspaces as many as u want (say 8); then xorg-reconfigure gives the chance (older ubuntu on an other laptop of mine) to choose more resol's
[10:07] <Samus_Aran> joeljkp: hm, apparently it doesn't directly support Samba, but it can use Gnome's virtual filesystem modules.  hm
[10:07] <Samus_Aran> hm hm.
[10:07] <Samus_Aran> I thought it had SMBFS
[10:07] <joeljkp> samus_aran: ah, i see
[10:07] <mikeconcepts> what is one highly recommended imaging program for Ubuntu? I would like to do imaging while running if possible.
[10:07] <vertana> GIMP
[10:08] <zcat[1] > imaging like ghost? partimage perhaps?
[10:08] <Samus_Aran> joeljkp: virtual filesystems can do neat things.  like SSH, FTP, even P2P filesharing networks like Gnutella, so that listing a directory is actually doing a search, etc.
[10:08] <zcat[1] > I don't think anything can or should image a mounted filesystem though...
[10:08] <Tonren> glatzor: It says it's going to remove a whole bunch of xserver packages.  Is that bad?
[10:09] <[SUDO] Tux> i need help running savage
[10:09] <glatzor> No. The package names have been changed
[10:09] <mikeconcepts> zcat[1] , wanting something that works well with Linux and also prefer imaging in the background
[10:09] <Tonren> glatzor: Ah, ok.  Also, it says I'm making a download of about 1 gigabyte.  Do I get any of that space back once it's done?
[10:09] <Samus_Aran> [SUDO] Tux: I had that game, heh.  played it for quite a while
[10:09] <Samus_Aran> [SUDO] Tux: what problem are you having ?
[10:09] <[SUDO] Tux> samus was it fun?
[10:09] <The_Machine> ET for atari?
[10:10] <glatzor> Tonren: please give me feedback how the upgrade ended
[10:10] <z0id> what's a good tool to create graph? i have some data from strace and some data from cpu and mem usage and i want to graph how different system calls affect cpu and mem usage
[10:10] <[SUDO] Tux> samus_aran one sec
[10:10] <jStefan> Tonren, get back to us, before restarting
[10:10] <Tonren> glatzor: Well, it'll probably take 3 or 4 hours.
[10:10] <zcat[1] > imaging to another system over the network? rsync ..
[10:10] <[SUDO] Tux> samus_aran i downloaded it...
[10:10] <[SUDO] Tux> samus_aran and installed it...
[10:10] <mikeconcepts> zcat[1] , ghost for linux I've not tried yet
[10:10] <glatzor> Tonren: the package chache will be reduced to 500 mb every  day by a cron job
[10:10] <[SUDO] Tux> samus_aran and when i sudo sh it
[10:10] <Tonren> glatzor: Whew.
[10:10] <[SUDO] Tux> samus_aran i get this:
[10:10] <Tonren> Well, here goes nothing!
[10:10] <Samus_Aran> [SUDO] Tux: it is basically two different games, realtime strategy where you command the army of other real players, build upgrades, etc. and the other half is being one of the soldiers, taking orders, fighting FPS
[10:10] <[SUDO] Tux> samus_aran i get this: Traceback (most recent call last):
[10:10] <[SUDO] Tux>   File "<string>", line 11, in ?
[10:10] <[SUDO] Tux>   File "iu.py", line 277, in importHook
[10:10] <[SUDO] Tux>   File "iu.py", line 362, in doimport
[10:10] <[SUDO] Tux>   File "/home/slothy/cvs/src/s2update/builds2update/out1.pyz/wxPython", line 20, in ?
[10:10] <[SUDO] Tux>   File "iu.py", line 277, in importHook
[10:10] <[SUDO] Tux>   File "iu.py", line 338, in doimport
[10:10] <[SUDO] Tux>   File "iu.py", line 184, in getmod
[10:10] <Samus_Aran> [SUDO] Tux: please paste to pastebin.com or similar
[10:11] <[SUDO] Tux>   File "archive.py", line 386, in getmod
[10:11] <[SUDO] Tux>   File "iu.py", line 46, in getmod
[10:11] <[SUDO] Tux> ImportError: libtiff.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:11] <[SUDO] Tux> There was an error (error 65280 - Unknown error 65280) running the updater!  bailing out
[10:11] <Samus_Aran> [SUDO] Tux: don't flood the channel
[10:11] <[SUDO] Tux> samus_aran There was an error (error 65280 - Unknown error 65280) running the updater!  bailing out
[10:11] <jStefan> !flood | [SUDO] Tux
[10:11] <ubotu> [SUDO] Tux: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:11] <glatzor> Tonren: you can run "sudo apt-get clean" to remove all packages from the cache
[10:11] <bRutEado> How do i run KUBUNTU LINUX 6.06 from a cd? It never start when i start the computer. What can i do?
[10:11] <[SUDO] Tux> ok one sec
[10:11] <zcat[1] > depends what you mean by imaging.. if you just want to mirror all your files I'd use rsync. Of you want an image youcan dump back to a drive and bootfrom, partimage, but you can't image a running filesystem because what's on the disk at any running moment isn't a clean filesystem..
[10:11] <jStefan> Tonren, or autocloean to remove only old pkgs
[10:12] <Samus_Aran> [SUDO] Tux: anyway, the important piece of information above is that it is missing "libtiff.so.3"
[10:12] <mikeconcepts> zcat[1] , will look into rsync
[10:12] <mamzers555> bRutEado; change the boot-sequence in your bios
[10:12] <vertana> Glatzor: go into the bios and select "boot from cd (or IDE CD)"
[10:12] <[SUDO] Tux> samus_aran which means?
[10:12] <Samus_Aran> [SUDO] Tux: what does "locate libtiff.so" show you ?
[10:12] <[SUDO] Tux> /usr/lib/libtiff.so.4
[10:12] <[SUDO] Tux> /usr/lib/libtiff.so.4.1.4
[10:12] <vertana> Sorry meant for bRutE
[10:12] <Samus_Aran> [SUDO] Tux: it is a missing library file.  shared libraries are like DLL files on Windows
[10:12] <bRutEado> mamzers555 the problem is that my computer is a little old and don't have that option on the bios
[10:13] <[SUDO] Tux> samus_aran which means...?
[10:13] <gean_> i need the t1lib, can i install it through synaptic, or need to download the .deb-file and perform a local install ... ?!
[10:13] <Samus_Aran> [SUDO] Tux: okay, so you have a newer version of libtiff than Savage is looking for.  you can solve it by either installing a copy of the old library, or you can try linking the new one to the old number, and it will probably work fine
[10:13] <jStefan> bRutEado, how old are we talking about here
[10:13] <vertana> gean: if you search Synaptic and it's not there... then try google.
[10:13] <vertana> Come on now... I know you think a little more than that.
[10:14] <mamzers555> bRutEado; are you sure, how did you installed a operating-system then? this wouldn't be possible then if you couldn't boot from cd
[10:14] <mirak> how to mount an initd image ?
[10:14] <mirak> how to mount an initrd image ?
[10:14] <seeker1> all of a sudden Dapper is running slowly on my system.  Things load very slowly, and my mouse moves slowly on screen!  What can be wrong?  Do I need to defrag the hard drive or something else?
[10:14] <gopss> you tell me
[10:14] <[SUDO] Tux> samus_aran how do i do this?
[10:14] <bRutEado> jStefan about 4 years
[10:14] <[SUDO] Tux> samus_aran i am a noob on linux
[10:14] <patrick_king> how do i use a install a .sh
[10:14] <jStefan> bRutEado, a 4 yeard old PC can boot from CD
[10:14] <jStefan> year*
[10:15] <vertana> Seeker: typically you do not need to defrag Ubuntu... ext3 filesystem beats the hell outta NTFS :D
[10:15] <[SUDO] Tux> bruteado: sudo sh "FILE"
[10:15] <Marcus> hello there
[10:15] <Samus_Aran> [SUDO] Tux: copy and paste this command, and put in your password when it asks you: sudo ln -s libtiff.so.4 /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3; sudo ldconfig
[10:15] <bRutEado> and how do i find that optino in the boot menu?
[10:15] <Samus_Aran> patrick_king: "./file.sh" or if it is not executable "bash file.sh" or "sh file.sh"
[10:15] <[SUDO] Tux> samus_aran ok...
[10:15] <vertana> Seeker: Try disabling some services.  You might also want to invest in a firewall if you do not have one.
[10:15] <jStefan> bRutEado, do you know what bios you have?
[10:16] <Samus_Aran> patrick_king: and put sudo in front of it, if it needs to be installed as root user
[10:16] <Alex> @t
[10:16] <[SUDO] Tux> samus_aran ok...
[10:16] <[SUDO] Tux> samus_aran ok, now what?
[10:16] <bRutEado> jStefan i don't know
[10:16] <patrick_king> i keep getting this patrick@patrick-desktop:~$ sudo sh linux-installer.sh
[10:16] <patrick_king> sh: Can't open linux-installer.sh
[10:16] <Samus_Aran> [SUDO] Tux: try running the game again
[10:16] <[SUDO] Tux> rgr
[10:16] <jStefan> bRutEado, try this guide https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToBootFromCd
[10:17] <Samus_Aran> patrick_king: is the file there ?  ls -l linux-installer.sh
[10:18] <jStefan> bRutEado, computers can boot from CD since before the year 2000
[10:18] <shiv> any bibus users here?
[10:18] <joevandyk> I have 'Option "RandRRotation" "on"' in my xorg.conf file (using nvidia and xinerama), and the log file says that RandR is loaded, but when I run xrandr, it says the extension "RANDR" is missing on the display.
[10:18] <mabus_> I can't install ubuntu on my asr-2100s raid controller... it will install it fine, but it won't boot into it... gparted will also recognize the drives
[10:18] <patrick_king> it says it isnt but i can see it on my desktop
[10:18] <[SUDO] Tux> THANKS!
[10:19] <Cale> about half the time when hitting refresh in a Windows Network (samba) window in Nautilus, the icons show up as the blank page icon and don't work. By refreshing repeatedly, I'll get the icon that I'm supposed to, but this is annoying.
[10:19] <bRutEado> [jStefan] : I know. But when i try to put the cd with this linux version it doesn's work
[10:19] <Samus_Aran> joevandyk: are you using the "nv" or "nvidia" Xorg driver ?
[10:19] <Cale> (In Edgy)
[10:19] <seeker1> all of a sudden Dapper is running slowly on my system.  Things load very slowly, and my mouse moves slowly on screen!  What can be wrong?  Do I need to defrag the hard drive or something else?
[10:19] <bRutEado> [jStefan] : now i'm trying to find a solution
[10:20] <tich> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30093/
[10:20] <zcat[1] > seeker1: run 'top' in a terminal.. something might be eating 100% cpu
[10:20] <seeker1> vertana: I have no services running!  and I have a firewall!  nothing has changed on my system, and it was running fast!  but all of a sudden it now runs slowly
[10:20] <freach`> seeker1: don't think its a hdd porblem, sounds like cpu problem
[10:20] <joevandyk> Samus_Aran: the beta nvidia driver
[10:20] <hrach> hallo does anybody knows what is this?  ->> Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
[10:20] <mamzers555> bRutEado; go into your bios and change the boot-sequence
[10:20] <seeker1> freach`: what can I do?
[10:20] <mamzers555> also you can try to make the cd-rom the master with the jumper
[10:21] <vertana> seeker: did you install anything around the time the slowdown started?
[10:21] <seeker1> when I run TOP, nothing is using CPU 100%
[10:21] <Samus_Aran> joevandyk: and it is in the kernel fine ?  grep nvidia /proc/modules
[10:21] <freach`> seeker1: check with top what's your cpu usage, like zcat[1]  said
[10:21] <zcat[1] > what's the load average?
[10:21] <dirtbag> Hello, I'm new to linux (just installed ubuntu =)6.06) Im currently upgrading to 6.10 using Synaptic. Is that ok or should I do a "fresh" install?
[10:21] <Samus_Aran> joevandyk: have you asked in #NVidia if the new driver has any randr issues ?
[10:21] <seeker1> firefox and xorg is at the TOP of TOP and only using minum CPU
[10:21] <bRutEado> [mamzers555] : i've thinked in do that but i'm not very experienced in this area and i thougth i could have a problem
[10:22] <vertana> I'm using irssi and I need to know the command to make window 2 and window 3 be on the same screen (#ubuntu and #kubuntu) anyone know this command?
[10:22] <seeker1> freach`: any other ideas why all of a sudden my system is running slowly to load things and mouse moves slowly?
[10:22] <Samus_Aran> dirtbag: it is supposed to be fine upgrading overtop of the previous version
[10:22] <freach`> seeker1: maybe a porblem with your ram
[10:22] <Samus_Aran> vertana: splitscreens in irssi are a pain to operate =/
[10:22] <seeker1> freach`: xorg = 7% and firefox = 14%
[10:22] <sd00> Anyone: Is it possible to play music files from an smb:// address ?  (e.g. smb://musicserver/elvis/sometrack.mp3) ?  or must I mount the share first?
[10:22] <vertana> I know... but I like them :P
[10:22] <zcat[1] > seeker1: high load-average (which isn't always CPU) -- running short on ram, or something..
[10:22] <dirtbag> Ok cool
[10:22] <mamzers555> bRutEado; you should try to change boot-sequence in bios first, before change the hardware. all i can tell u is that pc t
[10:23] <seeker1> zcat[1] : what? I doint understand
[10:23] <Jas-Nix> anyone here using amd64 and have network-manager-gnome installed ?
[10:23] <mamzers555> that are 6 years old have this feature of boot-sequence
[10:23] <freach`> seeker1: full ram, so your system have to swap
[10:23] <freach`> seeker1: check your swap
[10:23] <Samus_Aran> vertana: I love splitscreens, and use them very often in GNU Screen and Vim ... but I gave up trying to get them to function in irssi, as the commands were so ugly.  anyhow, their web site has basic instructions for doing it, as well I recommend asking in #irssi (if anyone is awake)
[10:23] <aSt3raL> what package is gnome-network-manger in?
[10:23] <vertana> Thank you ^.^
[10:24] <mikeconcepts> zcat[1] , will look into rsync further, but check this out http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/systemimager/index.php
[10:24] <variant> Samus_Aran: yeah, it's not logical in irssi
[10:24] <sentinel> hi: I went through "ATI HOWTO BINARY DRIVERS" thrice - still doesn't work, still using mesa. Any Ideas?
[10:24] <zcat[1] > top-right corder of top, the numbers should be below 1 normally.. also take a look at swap...
[10:24] <variant> sentinel: buy a radeon 9250 and use the free software drivers
[10:24] <Samus_Aran> vertana: also, irssi itself has pretty nice help for all its commands, built in
[10:24] <Tonren> Oh crap
[10:24] <sentinel> variant: Can't-- X700 MOBILE. Laptop
[10:24] <Tonren> Hey guys, is there a way to gracefully pause/stop the 6.06 -> 6.10 upgrade once it's started?
[10:25] <variant> sentinel: shame :/ i never buy unsupported hardware now
[10:25] <sparrwork> I installed kubuntu.  I ran OpenGL screensavers very nicely.  I did a package upgrade, and installed a few new things.  Two reboots later I notice my OpenGL screensavers are running software-ishly slow.  glxinfo says "Direct Rendering: no".  Help?
[10:25] <sentinel> variant: didn't watch my step. Anyway, how can I can get these drivers work?
[10:25] <variant> sentinel: you are using the binary drivers?
[10:25] <MarcN> aSt3raL: network-manager - network management framework daemon
[10:25] <variant> sentinel: sorry, i never had a problem cus i never used binary drivers :)
[10:25] <MarcN> aSt3raL: network-manager-gnome - network management framework (GNOME frontend)
[10:26] <sentinel> variant: I tried EVERYTHING
[10:26] <cntb> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods
[10:26] <cntb> RealPlayer is available from Canonical's commercial 6.06 LTS (Dapper) software repository, but not for 6.10 (Edgy). ??
[10:26] <sentinel> just to get away from mesa
[10:26] <NetGeek> woot, finally got Edgy and grub working on my macbook
[10:26] <sentinel> but fglrxinfo always shows vesa
[10:26] <variant> Tonren: if you want to use the system you can ctrl z the proccess
[10:26] <variant> Tonren: if your using apt-get that is
[10:26] <zcat[1] > sparrwork: you're lost your 3d drivers. Normally if you install from a package this shouldn't happen. Just set them up again (preferably from a repo, not from the binary installers) and it should all be good..
[10:26] <iamlindoro> hi all-- I am tearing my hair out here-- hoping that someone can help me-- I have two ext3 drives, both with the same settings in /etc/fstab and with the same settings in /etc/mtab... but one refuses to mount rw no matter what I try!  Help!
[10:26] <variant> Tonren: then to restart it do "%1"
[10:26] <Tonren> variant: I'm going to lose my internet connection soon!
[10:26] <variant> Tonren: but dont reboot
[10:27] <variant> Tonren: yeah, thats fine, pause it but dont reboot or close the terminal
[10:27] <cntb> http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/live_tv.html how to watch this on edgy
[10:27] <sentinel> variant: so can you please help me?
[10:27] <variant> Tonren: if its just downloading packages still then it will restart when the connection is back
[10:27] <Samus_Aran> vertana: for example: /help window, /help layout
[10:27] <zcat[1] > cntb: !w32codecs
[10:27] <Samus_Aran> well I need to get things done
[10:27] <Samus_Aran> g'day all
[10:27] <variant> sentinel: if you upgraded your packages you will need to reisntall the binary driver
[10:27] <Tonren> variant: Yeah, I'm on the "Fetching & Installing Upgrades" part.
[10:27] <variant> Tonren: so just kill it/ close it whatever
[10:28] <zcat[1] > cntb: well, mplayer, w32codecs and mplayer-firefox-plugin .. something like that
[10:28] <sentinel> variant: I can't even switch to it, can't get away from mesa. that's the point!!
[10:28] <variant> Tonren: then next time you start it will continue
[10:28] <cntb> zcat done that restart smthing>?
[10:28] <variant> sentinel: sorry i never used them so am not the best person to help
[10:28] <Tonren> variant: Oh... so I can just run gksu "update-manager -c" again, anytime, and it will continue?
[10:28] <variant> Tonren: correct
[10:28] <zcat[1] > restart firefox?
[10:28] <seeker1> freach`: how do I check my swap?
[10:28] <Tonren> variant: But if I restart, I'm screwed.  Right?
[10:28] <variant> sentinel: free -m
[10:28] <sinizzl> how can i restore grub after a windows xp installation? don't tell me to use the "grub restore disk" cause i ain't got no empty cd's... there must be another way....
[10:28] <variant> Tonren: what do you mean?
[10:28] <Tonren> variant: I mean, if I shut down the computer, and turn it on again.
[10:28] <glatzor> Tonren: you cannot close it :)
[10:28] <sentinel> ?
[10:28] <cntb> cntb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods
[10:28] <cntb> (04:26:05 PM) cntb: RealPlayer is available from Canonical's commercial 6.06 LTS (Dapper) software repository, but not for 6.10 (Edgy). ?? zcat
[10:29] <freach`> seeker1: with command "free"
[10:29] <variant> Tonren: no, only if it is half way through installing the system, like it might have some incompatible with the old packages half installed but normally thats not a problem
[10:29] <freach`> seeker1: or top
[10:29] <variant> Tonren: you can still shut down if its just downloading
[10:29] <zcat[1] > cntb: I generally just scrape the url off the page and run mplayer with it. The plugin doesn't work so well for me.
[10:29] <glatzor> Tonren: don't do this during the installation. During downloading should be ok
[10:29] <variant> Tonren: if its fetching packages you can turn it off, will still pick up again where it left off
[10:30] <iamlindoro> Can anyone help me with my rw/ro issue?  Where to look for drive writability settigns besides fstab?
[10:30] <glatzor> Tonren: but keep in mind, that your sources list has already been modified
[10:30] <orion_76520> is there any french channel about ubuntu
[10:30] <cntb> ah zcat ! is mplayer installed by default?
[10:30] <variant> iamlindoro: type "mount" is the disk mounted read/write?
[10:30] <glatzor> orion_76520: #ubuntu-fr ?
[10:30] <Tonren> glatzor: variant: OK.    Since then I flat out refuse to touch it again.
[10:30] <variant> iamlindoro: do you want to be able to write files as your user (not just as root)?
[10:30] <iamlindoro> variant: yes, but unable to write anyway
[10:30] <iamlindoro> correct
[10:31] <sd00> Anyone: Is it possible to play music files from an smb:// address ?  (e.g. smb://musicserver/elvis/sometrack.mp3) ?  or must I mount the share first?
[10:31] <variant> iamlindoro: chown -R username:username /path/to/mountpoint
[10:31] <boggle> zcat[1] : helixplayer should work fine nowadays
[10:31] <glatzor> sd00: totem can play from network servers
[10:32] <zcat[1] > boggle: probably does, but as Bush said "Fool me once, shame on.. shame on... ehhh... you can't get fooled again
[10:32] <phillip> how do i start bittorrent? i started it. i closed it. i dont know how to resume it again
[10:32] <Homer_Linux> hi pll i dont seem to have /etc/init.d/gdm anymore ive tryed install gmd again but it does not reinstall this file for some reason
[10:32] <orion_76520> glatzor: thx i ll trey this one
[10:32] <cntb> mplayer is in what package ? sudo apt-get install ...what..player?
[10:32] <variant> phillip: start the same .torrent file again, it will resume
[10:32] <variant> cntb: apt-cache search mplayer
[10:32] <zcat[1] > cntb: mplayer-586 probabky
[10:32] <iamlindoro> no luck, still can't write to that drive
[10:32] <phillip> variant: i dont have the .torrent file.. i could look for it. is there a command i can use?
[10:33] <cntb> trying that zcat[1]
[10:33] <sd00> glatzor: I get "Totem could not play 'smb://xxxxxxxxxx"  and    "Could not read from resource"  I guess from what you say it should work?
[10:33] <variant> iamlindoro: i ment for you to replace "username:username" with the name of your user that is trying to access teh drive
[10:33] <iamlindoro> I realize.  ;)  I did
[10:33] <variant> phillip: www.thepiratebay.org
[10:33] <iamlindoro> but no luck
[10:33] <variant> iamlindoro: please show me the command you used
[10:33] <iamlindoro> and of course I did so as root
[10:33] <variant> iamlindoro: exactly as you typed it
[10:33] <cntb> variant trying that
[10:33] <iamlindoro> chown -R mythtv:mythtv /media/MEDIADRIVE3
[10:33] <iamlindoro> as root
[10:34] <phillip> variant: thats where i got it..... but jw if there is a way i can start it from terminal
[10:34] <glatzor> sd00: connect to the server using Places > Connect to server
[10:34] <boybach> I sorted the problem of my screen resolution after reading up some threads on the forum :-)
[10:34] <variant> iamlindoro: ok, so then when you log in as mythtv you shoul dbe able to read/write that folder
[10:34] <iamlindoro> I am currently logged in as mythtv
[10:34] <variant> phillip: btdownloadercurses
[10:34] <iamlindoro> I suppose I can log out/in
[10:34] <variant> iamlindoro: nah
[10:34] <iamlindoro> if that would make any diff
[10:34] <variant> iamlindoro: wont make a diff
[10:34] <knix> The edgy livecd fails to start X, I'm pretty sure it's because I have an intel 945 graphics card, but it won't even work in safe graphics mode
[10:34] <cntb> zcat it is totem
[10:35] <variant> iamlindoro: please pastebing your fstab, the output from "mount" the output from ls -al /media/
[10:35] <zcat[1] > afk; gotta go deal with Windows and it's "excellent hardware support" -- iow I have to go dig up drivers for a bunch of hardware that isn't supported on a fresh install....
[10:35] <variant> iamlindoro: pastebin*
[10:35] <phillip> variant: wtf is that? a site?
[10:35] <variant> phillip: what?
[10:35] <variant> phillip: you need the .torrent file if you want to continue downloading a torrent you have partialy downloaded
[10:36] <cntb> try to play this pls http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/live_tv.html
[10:36] <sd00> glatzor: Same! I still get "Totem could not play 'smb://xx", "Could not read from resource"  I guess from what you say it should work?
[10:36] <phillip> ok after this torrent ill dl azureus
[10:36] <zugu> hi
[10:36] <variant> phillip: good man
[10:36] <variant> cntb: it plays fine here
[10:36] <glatzor> sd00: A codec problem?
[10:36] <cntb> variant plays on ..
[10:36] <immrtl> how do i force to run a .run file with bash shell instead of sh file.run?? sh file.run lets ubuntu choose the shell
[10:36] <variant> cntb: firefox
[10:37] <zugu> can anyone please tell me what happens if i choose 'No Localization' when I'm asked to choose a language for my new ubuntu system?
[10:37] <cntb> directly firefox? pls tell me how
[10:37] <glatzor> sd00: try to copy the file first
[10:37] <cntb> variant
[10:37] <variant> immrtl: sh runs bash
[10:37] <glatzor> zugu: you will get the default language that each app was written in
[10:37] <glatzor> zugu: normally this is English
[10:38] <OoberMick> variant: on edgy sh is dash
[10:38] <variant> immrtl: replace "sh file.sh" with bash file.sh
[10:38] <Ayabara> should I follow the dapper howto for installing opera on edgy?
[10:38] <zugu> and are there any exceptions?
[10:38] <zcat[1] > immrtl: edit the file, the first line should read #!/bin/bash
[10:38] <glatzor> zugu: It is a synoym to the locale C
[10:38] <variant> OoberMick: not here it's not
[10:38] <zugu> as far as you know?
[10:38] <phillip> variant: are azureus and bittornado the only clients availble? i liked utorrent
[10:38] <immrtl> k trying :)
[10:38] <sd00> glatzor: I don't think so, since the same file copied to HDD from that very share works in totem!!!
[10:38] <variant> OoberMick: root@craptop:/home/variant# echo $SHELL
[10:38] <variant> /bin/bash
[10:38] <marcin_ant> !fstab
[10:38] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[10:38] <variant> phillip: apt-cache search torrent
[10:38] <glatzor> sd00: file a bug :)
[10:38] <OoberMick> variant: ls -l /bin/sh
[10:39] <sd00> thats why i asked if it was possible to play over smb:// protocol!
[10:39] <marcin_ant> can someone tell me how can I generate uuids for my hdd's ?
[10:39] <jStefan> immrtl, if the sh file has a header, it will do what the header says
[10:39] <variant> OoberMick: :o
[10:39] <phillip> what is qemu
[10:39] <glatzor> ubotu: that is not correct. The currently mounted devices are listed in /etc/mtab
[10:39] <seeker1> freach`: when I typed free it says.. Swap:       441748      25632     416116
[10:39] <zugu> !qemu
[10:39] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[10:39] <sd00> I'm assuming its a setup problem on my box!
[10:39] <phillip> qemu vs vmware?
[10:39] <zugu> vmware wins
[10:39] <immrtl> its a .run not .sh
[10:39] <seeker1> freach`: it says that 416116 is free.
[10:39] <seeker1> freach`: does that look right?
[10:40] <Homer_Linux> hiya ppl im missinf the /etc/init.d/gdm script any ideas where i can get this from
[10:40] <leonel> any link about    Ubuntu  Position on   Novell + MS  agrement ?
[10:40] <variant> immrtl: ln -sf /bin/sh /bin/bash
[10:40] <jStefan> variant, that may not be a good idea
[10:40] <seeker1> freach`: hd5 is my swap file and it is 468MB
[10:40] <seeker1> freach`: any ideas?
[10:40] <phillip> homer_linux: i can send u mine...
[10:41] <joevandyk> I've removed the restricted modules and nvidia-glx from my system, and installed the nvidia beta graphics driver, but I get a kernel mismatch error when X loads up (saying that 1.0-7184 is installed, but X is 1.0-9625)
[10:41] <seeker1> freach`: it says that swap used is 25632 and 416116 is free.
[10:41] <lukask> Hi! I want to use upstart to spawn runit - ie spawn runsvdir-start at boot (and when it exits). Can't find doc's for upstart, though :(
[10:41] <OoberMick> marcin_ant: for ext3 and ext2  sudo tune2fs -l /dev/hda3 will list it
[10:41] <Homer_Linux> thanks phillip pm plz
[10:41] <phillip> i did
[10:41] <jStefan> immrtl, try: head -n 2 <file>
[10:42] <immrtl> ok, i see the problem in the file, ./search.sh is the error im getting when running, and 3rd line in file is script="./search.sh", what should i change it to?
[10:42] <phillip> homer_linux: i opened a pm windows but ur no repsonding
[10:42] <dom_f> atomiku: did it work?
[10:42] <Homer_Linux> phillip i need to register 2 secs
[10:42] <OoberMick> variant: changing the simlink like that will one work until dash is reinstalled. sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash to change it permenantly
[10:43] <OoberMick> variant: one=only
[10:43] <jStefan> shells scripts should include appropriate headers
[10:43] <immrtl> what should i change script="./search.sh" to? anyone know?
[10:43] <JoeMama> is it possible to make icons with gimp
[10:44] <immrtl> i looked up the error and only thing i got was "try running in bash shell"
[10:44] <variant> OoberMick: good point
[10:44] <jStefan> immrtl, try: head -n 2 <file>
[10:44] <immrtl> ./search.sh error: 35: syntax error: bad substitution
[10:44] <variant> immrtl: bash ./search.sh
[10:45] <cntb> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[10:45] <freach`> seeker1: 25 MB of swap in use, how much ram do you have ?
[10:45] <Arrick_Idle> whats the command for dropping to cpan in ubuntu?
[10:45] <skel> if you're going to use bash on the cli, you don't need to specify ./
[10:45] <Homer_Linux> phillip check pm should be working now
[10:45] <mirak> does anyone knows how to generate exactly a package linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic from the source corresponding package ?
[10:45] <cntb> To enable support for streaming media install the package mozilla-mplayer.
[10:45] <variant> skel: he does as /bin/sh points to /bin/dash not /bin/bash
[10:45] <jStefan> when a shell script has a header, shells will switch to the shell specified on the header
[10:46] <variant> jStefan: annother good point!
[10:46] <jStefan> immrtl, try: head -n 2 <file>
[10:46] <variant> skel: ah sorry, missunderstood.. i am half asleep tongiht
[10:46] <skel> variant: =]
[10:46] <Ostizzle> I'm not sure of the correct way to go about seeking help, can I just ask a question?
[10:46] <variant> have to read things 5 times skel :)
[10:46] <immrtl> k trying
[10:46] <LjL> !ask
[10:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:46] <variant> !ask | OoberMick
[10:46] <ubotu> OoberMick: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:46] <Ostizzle> :)
[10:46] <variant> !ask | Ostizzle
[10:46] <ubotu> Ostizzle: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:47] <variant> man, i am going to stfu now.. just looking like some kind of moron :)
[10:47] <X-Gen> hey all
[10:47] <immrtl> ok i must need to red/l the file, bad checksum
[10:47] <OoberMick> variant: Damn now I have to think of a question...
[10:47] <variant> OoberMick: lol
[10:47] <iamlindoro> variant: Output of the three commands is at http://extraball.sunsite.dk/notepad.php?ID=29282
[10:47] <Homer_Linux> phillip you still there
[10:49] <kevb> is anyone running pam_encfs successfully?
[10:49] <variant> iamlindoro: ok, you should definately be able to read/write on /media/MEDIADRIVE3
[10:49] <variant> iamlindoro: as user mythtv
[10:49] <phillip> homer_linux : im chatting but ur not responding
[10:49] <jStefan> some shell script have a header specifying #!/bin/sh when they actually require #!/bin/bash
[10:50] <phillip> homer_linux : i attempted to send the file
[10:50] <variant> iamlindoro: was it mounted when you ran the chown comand?
[10:50] <Ostizzle> Alrighty, well I just finished installing Ubuntu Edgy and am having problems.  While I was installing from the LiveCD everything seemed to be working fine.  Once I finished the installation and restarted the login GUI came up and I logged in.  After accepting my user/pass it showed the splash screen and the the little icons of the stuff that was loading.  It starts to play the startup sound but doesn't finish.  Then I just get d
[10:50] <Homer_Linux> hmm something up same here but im registred
[10:50] <Tobberoth> Odd error here! If I drag a window outside of the desktop (so that a part of the window is not visible) my computer freezes.
[10:50] <iamlindoro> hmmm... wait... I *can* write to it from the command line.. just not from within Nautilus... Properties there still show root and the owner
[10:51] <X-Gen> Tobberoth, then dont do that !!
[10:51] <nikosapi> Hi, I'm trying to configure libgpod from cvs and I'm stuck on this error:  testing glib-gettextize... not found.   Where can I get this?
[10:51] <Tobberoth> X-Gen: very funny :P
[10:51] <seeker1> freach`: 256 RAM in total! why?
[10:52] <iamlindoro> variant: any idea how to get it to write from within X/Nautilus/Gnome?
[10:52] <Crankymonky> 256 MB RAM because he thought 128 was a bit little:P
[10:52] <seeker1> freach`: it says that swap used is 25632 and 416116 is free.  and I have 256RAM in total
[10:52] <seeker1> freach`: sound right?
[10:52] <phillip> homer_linux: im not maybe thats why?
[10:52] <seeker1> Crankymonky: lol
[10:52] <phillip> how do i register
[10:52] <Homer_Linux> lmao
[10:52] <variant> iamlindoro: sorry, i am at work right now and have to deal with somthing. will be back in 30 mins
[10:52] <iamlindoro> no problem
[10:52] <phillip> ive only been on one other irc channel :P
[10:53] <freach`> seeker1: sound right, but swapping isn't good at all, it seems your system needs more ram swapping is always slow
[10:53] <ProN00b> wtf, the firefox logo is proprietary !
[10:53] <phillip> !register
[10:53] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:53] <ProN00b> i have proprietary stuff in my os !
[10:53] <ineedhelpwithirc> old news, mate
[10:53] <sparrwork> I lost 3D acceleration on my intel 865 a couple of reboots ago.  glxinfo says "direct rendering: no".  i tried manual "modprobe i810fb" and restart X to no avail.  hints?
[10:53] <OoberMick> nikosapi: I'm guessing but do you have libglib2.0-dev?
[10:54] <seeker1> freach`: I thought Dapper didnt need more than 256 RAM
[10:54] <sparrwork> ProN00b: run iceweasel instead
[10:54] <seeker1> freach`: how much RAM you have?
[10:54] <dadfds> waths the syntax for creating an SSL tunnel with stunnel ?
[10:54] <ineedhelpwithirc> ProN00b: only proprietary to redistribute with modifications that mean it's no longer like the original
[10:54] <dadfds> to proxy webtraffic
[10:54] <freach`> seeker1: 1GB DDR2 800
[10:54] <nikosapi> OoberMick: No, that's what I'm trying to compile...
[10:55] <seeker1> freach`: LOL! ok, well does Dapper need all that?
[10:55] <K1765> Hi
[10:55] <OoberMick> nikosapi: I thought you said libgpod?
[10:55] <seeker1> when I run CLAMSCAN it says..   WARNING: Local version: 0.88.2 Recommended version: 0.88.5!  How can I upgrade this?  anyone know?
[10:55] <K1765> I have a lexmark printer, how can I get it to work on linux if it doesnt have linux drivers?
[10:55] <nikosapi> Oops! let me check....
[10:56] <alterlaszlo> hey guys i'm a newbie which is the repository file i have to modify for ubuntu?
[10:56] <Tobberoth> I can't start gnome-settings-daemon, please help
[10:56] <freach`> seeker1: 256 is minimum but have to work without problems
[10:56] <jStefan> alterlaszlo, use the GUI
[10:56] <marcin_ant> OoberMick: thanks, and what about non ext2/3 partitions?
[10:56] <freach`> seeker1: type of ram ?
[10:56] <Crankymonky> alterlaszlo, etc/apt/sources.list
[10:56] <alterlaszlo> which gui?
[10:56] <K1765> I have a lexmark printer, how can I get it to work on linux if it doesnt have linux drivers?
[10:57] <jStefan> alterlaszlo, you can change repos in synaptic
[10:57] <dadfds> anyone got any knowlage of stunnel ?
[10:57] <toros> alterlaszlo, what's your goal?
[10:57] <Crankymonky> alterlaszlo, go to system, administration, synaptec packet manager
[10:57] <alterlaszlo> thanks i'm trying
[10:57] <Crankymonky> It should have a button for repositories
[10:57] <Crankymonky> If not, the file is etc/apt/sources.list
[10:57] <Ostizzle> I just finished installing Ubuntu Edgy and am having problems.  While I was installing from the LiveCD everything seemed to be working fine, I was using the GUI and checking everything out.  Once I finished the installation and restarted the login GUI came up and I logged in.  After accepting my user/pass it showed the splash screen and the the little icons of the stuff that was loading.  It starts to play the startup sound but
[10:57] <Chinesefood> im having a MAJOR PROBLEM
[10:57] <OoberMick> marcin_ant: not sure -- my grub menu.lst just has the labels (/dev/hda1 and so on)
[10:58] <K1765> I have a lexmark printer, how can I get it to work on linux if it doesnt have linux drivers?
[10:58] <seeker1> Chinesefood: yea! you are chinese ;)
[10:58] <seeker1> freach`: no idea! How can I tell wha type of RAM I have?
[10:58] <alterlaszlo> wonderful guys! i just demonstrated to a window user what is a community...you made the great work!!!
[10:58] <claygucci> uname something
[10:58] <marcin_ant> OoberMick: my fstab has UUIDs for ntfs partitions too...
[10:58] <Crankymonky> What is this windows you speak of?
[10:58] <nikosapi> K1765: What kind of printer?
[10:58] <claygucci> or maybe that the cat cpuproc
[10:58] <claygucci> er sxomething like that lol
[10:58] <K1765> Lexmark x1150 nikosapi
[10:59] <Trainstroker> homer_linux: its phil
[10:59] <toros> Alterlaszlo, in synaptic: settings -> repositories
[10:59] <Chinesefood> i have a HP Deskjet 3740 running on my network. The Server is Ubuntu and all the workstations are windoze. I need to be able to print from the windows clients to the Printer connected to the server. Im currently using the adobe postscript drivers but i cant print in color. any advice?
[10:59] <OoberMick> marcin_ant: hmm... to the google!
[10:59] <SirKillalot> can you easily install kdelibs4-dev in ubuntu edgy?
[10:59] <SirKillalot> it says that dependecies are not met
[10:59] <SirKillalot> and that the package is broken
[10:59] <SirKillalot> is that right?
[10:59] <Trent__> HALP!
[11:00] <Trent__> If I buy an Edgy CD, can I update my Dapper with it without uninstalling?
[11:00] <marshall> Trent__, ?
[11:00] <jStefan> Trent__, you need the alternate CD
[11:00] <freach`> seeker1: SD-RAM or DDR or DDR2 or EDO (:P)
[11:00] <marshall> Trent__, to do that you have to install edgy to a different partition
[11:00] <OoberMick> marcin_ant: man vol_id
[11:00] <freach`> seeker1: what kind of cpu ?
[11:01] <marshall> Trent__, you dont have to buy a cd either, they are freely downloadable from the site
[11:01] <Trent__> marshall: can't download
[11:01] <Chinesefood> The Server is Ubuntu and all the workstations are windoze. I need to be able to print from the windows clients to the Printer connected to the server. Im currently using the adobe postscript drivers but i cant print in color. any advice?
[11:01] <toros> Trent, what kind of net do you have?
[11:01] <Trent__> So I can't update from CD?
[11:01] <Trent__> toros: awful satellite
[11:01] <marshall> Trent__, you can
[11:01] <jStefan> Trent__, only with "Alternate Install CD"
[11:01] <OoberMick> marcin_ant: sudo vol_id -u /dev/hdXX should work
[11:01] <K1765> I have a lexmark printer, how can I get it to work on linux if it doesnt have linux drivers? (Lexmark x1150 printer)
[11:01] <toros> then you need the the Alternate install CD
[11:01] <marshall> Trent__, you just have to add the cd as a source on your sources.list
[11:02] <Chinesefood> The Server is Ubuntu and all the workstations are windoze. I need to be able to print from the windows clients to the Printer connected to the server. Im currently using the adobe postscript drivers but i cant print in color. any advice?
[11:02] <marshall> Trent__, yeah alternate cd
[11:02] <OoberMick> Chinesefood: can the server print colour?
[11:02] <Chinesefood> The Server is Ubuntu and all the workstations are windoze. I need to be able to print from the windows clients to the Printer connected to the server. Im currently using the adobe postscript drivers but i cant print in color. any advice?
[11:02] <Trent__> toros: "Alternate"?
[11:02] <toros> b'coz at net upgrade it downloads about 500 mbytes...
[11:02] <Chinesefood> oobermick: yeah it can