[01:04] <jrib> kagemaro: nevermind, 'man intro' doesn't cover it.  Maybe 'man less' or 'man man', but it is q to quit
[01:04] <TheRandom> nbkr, will I still get the same problem after installing though?
[01:04] <kagemaro> It does cover it
[01:04] <bsh_> mapp: as said, i just wasn't sure if the patch is already in ubuntu or i need to compile it
[01:05] <mapp> :>
[01:05] <nbkr> Romnous, sure - just configure the routing correctly.
[01:05] <bsh_> mapp: and it's about a few bad addresses, what if i have over 13000?!
[01:05] <mapp> hmm
[01:05] <edulix> hi
[01:05] <Paddy_EIRE> ho
[01:05] <nbkr> TheRandom, maybe - I never used that Virtual PC Thing. I'm using VMware. And Ubuntu works like a charm in such an environment.
[01:05] <mapp> how big is the stick of memory, and what % is that of the block
[01:05] <jrib> !who | n0ur
[01:05] <ubotu> n0ur: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[01:05] <edulix> I've reading this bsd thing. I've never taked a deep look at bsd license, but now that I have, I have some doubts..
[01:05] <TheRandom> nbkr VMware is free?
[01:06] <TheRandom> I might with with that
[01:06] <TheRandom> go*
[01:06] <kiersie> or random try sudo gnome-mouse-properties
[01:06] <Romnous> nbkr: i've set up rules for the wired connection, so i should use the same for the access point? and do you have a list of supported wireless network cards?
[01:06] <mapp> i wonder why 7.10 wont work on my inspiron?
[01:06] <nbkr> TheRandom, Yes - there is a free version. The "VMWare Server"
[01:06] <n0ur> oh yes sorry jrib
[01:06] <Romnous> mapp: because it's in beta?
[01:06] <Romnous> *alpha
[01:06] <TheRandom> Thank you very much nbkr, Ill download that now
[01:06] <jrib> n0ur: power down the virtual machine, go to settings, then tell it to mount that iso as the cdrom
[01:06] <TheRandom> And say a not-so-fond farewell to Virtial Machine
[01:06] <Paddy_EIRE> !info qemu | TheRandom
[01:07] <mapp> Rom; yes true, but then 6.10/7.04 also have problems with my 9400 , inspiron
[01:07] <edulix> so it seems that if I redistribute a software that is under bsd, I can choose to do whatever I want with it, i.e. I can just not release the source code. but if I choose to release it, its license must remain being bsd?
[01:07] <bsh_> mapp:i have 3x128mb and the errors are in the upper range
[01:07] <ubotu> therandom: qemu: fast processor emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2+dfsg-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3465 kB, installed size 9460 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm s390 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[01:07] <Eghie> join #samba
[01:07] <TheRandom> Paddy_EIRE, thanks but abit late.
[01:07] <Paddy_EIRE> your choice
[01:07] <Romnous> mapp: maybe it's a compatibility issue? you should post a bug-file somewhere:PO
[01:07] <mapp> :)
[01:07] <Anlar> edulix: sure, but that's not a license issue but a copyright holding issue
[01:07] <mapp> yes
[01:07] <mapp> true
[01:07] <TheRandom> If VMware server works then fair enough
[01:07] <nbkr> Romnous, probably not the _same_ rules. And sorry I don't have a list of supported wireless card that support the access point mode.
[01:07] <TheRandom> nbkr, how does VMware server go for FreeDOS?
[01:07] <mapp> bsh_; but how many blocks total
[01:07] <Anlar> edulix: the one who actually wrote the code is the only one with the rights to change that anyways
[01:08] <mapp> bsh:13000 bad, out of how many
[01:08] <nbkr> TheRandom, Never used FreeDos.
[01:08] <Romnous> nbkr: thanks for the help anyway :), i found that they have to be able to be set in "master" mode
[01:08] <TheRandom> Fair enough.
[01:08] <TheRandom> I like my old DOS games :P
[01:08] <bsh_> mapp: dunno, it's still running home
[01:08] <ibob63> i'm trying to use hardware raid - but ubuntu just see the harddrives on the raid array. Any ideas?
[01:08] <mapp> ah
[01:08] <TheRandom> General question: Is Ubuntu good for running a Linux server?
[01:08] <TheRandom> Or would you want Gentoo/Redhat etc
[01:08] <Romnous> TheRandom: YES:P
[01:08] <Paddy_EIRE> TheRandom, use ubuntu server
[01:09] <mapp> well, it all depends how you lock it down
[01:09] <bsh_> mapp: i've set memtest to output badmem codes... will it automatically add it to the grub or what?
[01:09] <Romnous> TheRandom, use ubuntu
[01:09] <edulix> Anlar: well the BSD developer could have released the code to the public domain, and then anyone could put any license to it
[01:09] <mapp> and what for imo
[01:09] <nbkr> TheRandom, Ubuntu does well as a server.
[01:09] <Anlar> edulix: it's just a technicality, software has been changed from bsd to gpl and vice versa, sometimes requiring just some little extra work
[01:09] <TheRandom> Paddy_EIRE, a specialized version of Ubuntu? Or is it the standard.
[01:09] <mapp> bsh: no i think you will have to tell grub which parts to ignore still
[01:09] <TheRandom> And thank you all for the answer I was looking for :p
[01:09] <Paddy_EIRE> TheRandom, you can install the server packages on the desktop edition
[01:09] <ibob63> anyone know anything about hardware and ubuntu?
[01:09] <TheRandom> Paddy_EIRE, fantastic.
[01:09] <Paddy_EIRE> TheRandom, or you can go for the server edition if you wish
[01:10] <Anlar> edulix: including ie. gpl, which would be bad
[01:10] <TheRandom> I'm trialing it at the moment at home, I might be integrating it slightly with work when I get ALOT more familier with it
[01:10] <nbkr> !ask | ibob63
[01:10] <ubotu> ibob63: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:10] <mapp> serer has no gui obviously
[01:10] <mapp> *server
[01:10] <TheRandom> Paddy_EIRE, if server has no GUI i might stick to desktop
[01:10] <n0ur> and now i get "could not find kernel image" jrib  : /
[01:10] <bsh_> mapp: this is going to be my internet pc 24/7 torrenting etc. to avoid windows reporting my programs etc. :)
[01:10] <DeZ_666> Can someone help me compile from source :?
[01:10] <TheRandom> lol bsh_
[01:10] <naser> hello
[01:10] <edulix> Anlar: it seems I had a wrong view of the BSD license =) I thought it was so "open" that allowed you even to change the license (as you can do with public domain code right?)
[01:10] <jrib> n0ur: is it booting the cd?
[01:10] <wib> hi, i updated the linux headers, now sound wont work anymore. quick solution?
[01:10] <TheRandom> stick it to microsoft
[01:10] <mapp> lol bsh
[01:11] <Paddy_EIRE> TheRandom, fair enough.. you can install any gui you want on the server though anyway
[01:11] <n0ur> oh.. no cd : /
[01:11] <naser> i have router modem its work in kde desktop (kubuntu) non-any problem
[01:11] <jrib> n0ur: erm, I mean iso
[01:11] <naser> but in gnome its not work
[01:11] <Anlar> edulix: yes. however bsd is a good license, there is no really need to convert away from it
[01:11] <mapp> i have a question-ive been messing with samba as a PDC, for 2 windows/2 linux machines - is there anyway to make it so the clients use the server userfile? rather than having to have user mark on both client + domain?!
[01:11] <kagemaro> chaad - download the source from www.pidgin.im, unzip/untar it, go into the directory, type sudo ./configure && sudo make && sudo make uninstall && sudo make clean
[01:11] <naser> what to do ????????
[01:11] <TheRandom> Paddy_EIRE, I'll jot all this down, if the desktop edition is to limited I'll certainly look at server.
[01:11] <n0ur> i can do it without the cd, right jrib ?
[01:11] <mapp> hopefully someone can offer some help
[01:11] <brownie17> bsh_, seems kinda paranoid delusional.
[01:11] <chickenF> interested in Java and 3d graphics? join #java3d
[01:11] <nbkr> TheRandom, try to learn to administer a system from the console. You'll see that this is the real deal. The console is really powerfull. Think about it as kind of "Swiss Army Knife" for Linux.
[01:11] <bsh_> i am paranoid since i've been caught once
[01:11] <bsh_> :(
[01:11] <jrib> n0ur: yeah, you can just tell it to mount the iso
[01:11] <TheRandom> brownie17, this IS microsoft :P
[01:12] <brownie17> bsh_, seriously? were you selling downloaded stuff?
[01:12] <TheRandom> nbkr, do you know of any documentation I could read up on?
[01:12] <brownie17> bsh_, can i hear the story?
[01:12] <edulix> Anlar: well that depends on personal preferences. I prefer GPL, you prefer BSD =) I was just trying to understand BSD better
[01:12] <mapp> anyone able to answer my q?:P
[01:12] <mapp> ive been looking everywhere=]
[01:12] <edulix> Anlar: thanks for your help in that ;)
[01:12] <jrib> !please > mapp (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:12] <bsh_> no i wasn't selling, only using...
[01:12] <n0ur> uhm, i did choose the iso path.. jrib ..
[01:12] <n0ur> :/
[01:12] <nbkr> TheRandom, O'Reilly has serveral good books about that topic.
[01:12] <DeZ_666> kagemaro: im trying to compile pidgin from source as well
[01:12] <Anlar> edulix: it's not really "personal preferences".. the an other one is bad for innovation, and the other one is not.
[01:12] <DeZ_666> having...problems
[01:12] <Paddy_EIRE> bsh_, there not interested in guys like you
[01:12] <bsh_> it was bulletproof ftp
[01:13] <jrib> n0ur: but do you see that it is actually trying to load it when you boot the virtual machine?
[01:13] <TheRandom> nbkr, first name? ;)
[01:13] <naser> i have router modem its work in kde desktop (kubuntu) but not working in gnome (ubuntu)
[01:13] <naser> ??????
[01:13] <Sulo_Seppa> Does the stock kernel come with multiple system joystick support?
[01:13] <kagemaro> DeZ_666 - what problems?
[01:13] <mapp> naser, what problem exactly
[01:13] <nbkr> TheRandom, pardon?
[01:13] <DeZ_666> using ./configure results in terminal saying that gcc cant create executeables
[01:13] <DeZ_666> :|
[01:13] <n0ur> yes, jrib
[01:13] <TheRandom> nbkr, O'Reilly, I've never heard of him before.
[01:13] <TheRandom> Him/Her.
[01:13] <kagemaro> Oh, you dont have the compiler installed
[01:13] <jrib> n0ur: hmm, what iso are you using?
[01:13] <kagemaro> I'm trying to remember what the package is called
[01:14] <chaad> kagemaro, i tar the source, did ./configure and then make, whats next?
[01:14] <DeZ_666> but it says gcc is there
[01:14] <edulix> Anlar: that's what you think, but I don't think so. How good is for innovation to be able to close some source code? I think that imposing that source must be released is better for innovation
[01:14] <nbkr> TheRandom, O'Reilly is a publisher: www.oreilly.com
[01:14] <kagemaro> make uninstall && make clean
[01:14] <brownie17> are virtual machines hard to set up? i'm thinking about setting up a windows virtual machine
[01:14] <mapp> brownie, no vm's are easy as mate
[01:14] <Paddy_EIRE> !info qemu | brownie17
[01:14] <ubotu> brownie17: qemu: fast processor emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2+dfsg-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3465 kB, installed size 9460 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm s390 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[01:14] <cybervegan> hi can anyone help with an intel wireless card prob?
[01:14] <bsh_> anyway, an other question. i'm waiting for my internet to be activated but i don't have it yet (at home, now i'm in the office). is there a way to install all that stuff i want without being online? (ntfs3g, azureus, java, vnc...)
[01:14] <TheRandom> Thank you very much nbkr, looks to be very usefull
[01:14] <n0ur> jrib: ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
[01:14] <kagemaro> DeZ_666 - Yes, thats normal, there is a package which allows you to build c applications
[01:14] <TheRandom> bsh_, download files at work, save onto pen drive
[01:14] <kiersie> DeZ_666
[01:14] <jrib> n0ur: version of virtualbox?
[01:14] <Anlar> edulix: investment is the base of innovation. time, resources, money. the other one fosters that, the other one not. all the "brightest stars" of gpl software have done so far (on relevant areas) is aping
[01:14] <DeZ_666> yes
[01:14] <mapp> bsh_ change sources to use cd?
[01:15] <kagemaro> DeZ_666 I just can't remember what its called :/
[01:15] <bsh_> yeah but how?
[01:15] <mapp> that's if the cd contains the packages of coz
[01:15] <edulix> Anlar: what code do you prefer, the one you can't have acces to, or the one you have access to? developmet is incremental, you develop X, I modify it, then you add some more new modifications...
[01:15] <kiersie> there is mostly an install doc bij source
[01:15] <nbkr> TheRandom, They have an online library. You can access all their books for 49$/month.
[01:15] <naser> mapp :  i have network card and router modem its work in kde desktop but in gnome doesnt work
[01:15] <Paddy_EIRE> brownie17, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[01:15] <jesSon_newbie> can someone tell me please where i can find free unix account?  are there server that are still running under unix?? where can i download unix ?
[01:15] <bsh_> should i add sources to a local folder or what?
[01:15] <jesSon_newbie> can someone tell me please where i can find free unix account?  are there server that are still running under unix?? where can i download unix ?
[01:15] <TheRandom> nbkr, thanks for the heads up.
[01:15] <DeZ_666> kagemaro: is it perhaps gcc?
[01:15] <DeZ_666> :|
[01:15] <mapp> brownie, vmware server is free, and would do the job
[01:15] <kagemaro> DeZ_666 - no, I think its build-essential
[01:15] <n0ur> 1.4.0 jrib
[01:15] <DeZ_666> Hmm
[01:15] <kagemaro> Or something like that
[01:15] <jrib> brownie17: I think virtualbox is the easiest
[01:15] <DeZ_666> well i compiled it in puppy linux
[01:16] <Paddy_EIRE> jrib, is it
[01:16] <kagemaro> brownie17 - I would recommend VMware Server
[01:16] <mapp> jesSon_newbie, you wanna download unix?! well you can download ubuntu at ubuntu.com:P
[01:16] <DeZ_666> but i had to load a sfs that had gcc in it..
[01:16] <DeZ_666> or something like that
[01:16] <jrib> n0ur: try ugprading to 1.5.0
[01:16] <DeZ_666> :3
[01:16] <nbkr> jesSon_newbie, There is no one "unix" - there are serveral flavours.
[01:16] <mapp> vmware server/virtual box are both ok
[01:16] <jesSon_newbie> is unix ubuntu ?
[01:16] <mapp> altho i seem to recall virtual box crashing on me
[01:16] <Anlar> edulix: code is the lowest level just as the coders are the lowest scum of all it people :)
[01:16] <nbkr> jesSon_newbie, Ubuntu is Linux and Linux is like Unix.
[01:16] <cybervegan> you can download opensolaris frommany sites - that's unix
[01:16] <jrib> !virtualizers > brownie17 (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:16] <kagemaro> Virtualbox has crash bugs, VMware doesn't (from my experience)
[01:17] <edulix> Anlar: aping? hell yeah!  I told you, innovation is incremental in software. you don't just start from scratch in software
[01:17] <mapp> yea, vmware is ok, although i always have to be careful or it kills my net
[01:17] <mapp> due to the vmnet etc
[01:17] <Paddy_EIRE> no.. ubuntu is linux + gnu linux is based on unix jesSon_newbie
[01:17] <kagemaro> DeZ_666 try sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:17] <DeZ_666> Allright
[01:17] <doug_> me i just dual boot
[01:17] <shadowmancer> does anyone know about problems with the recent update released
[01:17] <jesSon_newbie> are the commands on linux  exactly the same as unix?? i have ubuntu running .. do u know any server where i can get free unix account like browse on their folder
[01:17] <nbkr> jesSon_newbie, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix - The image on the right might help to make it clearer.
[01:17] <adaptr> Paddy_EIRE linux is based on Unix ? since when ?
[01:17] <n0ur> ok jrib
[01:17] <DeZ_666> How do i tell if it worked kagemaro
[01:18] <Paddy_EIRE> adaptr, well minix
[01:18] <n0ur> wish me luck : /
[01:18] <kagemaro> DeZ_666 it will say like
[01:18] <naser> no body can help me can :S
[01:18] <mapp> jesSon, why would you need an account-play around on your machine?
[01:18] <Paddy_EIRE> adaptr, tomato tamato
[01:18] <kagemaro> DeZ_666 'Installing' lol
[01:18] <naser>  i have network card and router modem its work in kde desktop but in gnome doesnt work
[01:18] <DeZ_666> Uhh
[01:18] <gary4gar> !kernel
[01:18] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:18] <DeZ_666> ill rafb.net it
[01:18] <DeZ_666> Ok?
[01:18] <mapp> your network card doesn't work at all naser?
[01:18] <adaptr> Paddy_EIRE not really, minix is not a working Unix in any meaningful sense of the word
[01:18] <kagemaro> DeZ_666 what did it say when you ran that command?
[01:18] <jesSon_newbie> cuz i have a book about unix and i want a server where i can practice the commands
[01:18] <naser> my network card doesnt work in gnome
[01:18] <DeZ_666> Ill rafb.net it
[01:18] <naser> yes
[01:18] <jesSon_newbie> and learn at the same time
[01:18] <carvasf> anyone can help me with a wireless card prolem?
[01:18] <Pirate_Hunter> how do I mount NTFS hard disk? what are the commands?
[01:18] <edulix> anyway, time to go, bye ;)
[01:18] <jrib> !ntfs > Pirate_Hunter (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:18] <nbkr> jesSon_newbie, What is the title of the book?
[01:18] <mapp> naser;what card is it
[01:18] <Sergo> hello
[01:18] <kagemaro> DeZ_666 - it should request your root password then aptitude should install build_essential
[01:19] <mapp> hi
[01:19] <Paddy_EIRE> adaptr, the foundation of linux is because of in large part bsds' unix
[01:19] <aricz_> jesSon_newbie : http://www.red-pill.eu/freeunix.shtml
[01:19] <Sergo> i have mobile Motorola, when i plug it into usb the ubuntu doesn't detect it, can i do something?
[01:19] <Sulo_Seppa> Can anyone answer my question?
[01:19] <jesSon_newbie> denorah rady is the author of the book
[01:19] <jrib> !please > Sulo_Seppa (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:19] <nbkr> !ubuntu > nbkr
[01:19] <Pirate_Hunter> how do I mount NTFS hard disk? what are the commands?
[01:19] <Flannel> kagemaro, DeZ_666, not root password.  Your user password.  Ubuntu doesn't use the root account.
[01:19] <jrib> Pirate_Hunter: did you see the link ubotu sent you?
[01:19] <adaptr> Paddy_EIRE okay, true, if you go several layers down and several decades back, then Linux is based on Unix somewhen - but so is Windows :)
[01:19] <kagemaro> Flannel - with sudo?
[01:19] <DeZ_666> Flannel
[01:20] <Flannel> kagemaro: right.
[01:20] <DeZ_666> i figured that out from a few things
[01:20] <Sulo_Seppa> Does the stock kernel come with multiple system joystick support?
[01:20] <DeZ_666> kagemaro: http://rafb.net/p/5McIM039.html
[01:20] <Paddy_EIRE> adaptr, yeah and mac etall
[01:20] <cybervegan> pirate_hunter: get yourself a command window, and, type:mkdir windowsdisk
[01:20] <DeZ_666> i /just/ bothered reading the output, i think it was ok
[01:20] <bsh_> thanks for the tips
[01:20] <adaptr> well, mac osx - not mac os
[01:20] <bsh_> bye
[01:20] <Paddy_EIRE> adaptr, but I know what you mean
[01:20] <tzembi> simplechat: i searched a bit on your problem and maybe ths helps you out... http://de3.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/ch08.html
[01:20] <Pirate_Hunter> jrib: thanx  will look at it
[01:20] <jesSon_newbie> how can i host a telnet chat server on my ubuntu is there any program i can dl off the net? tell me how to setup 1 pls
[01:20] <cybervegan> then type: sudo mount /dev/hda1 windowsdisk
[01:20] <Flannel> DeZ_666: close any other package managers you have open
[01:20] <Paddy_EIRE> adaptr, yeah curiously what was mac os originally
[01:20] <gary4gar> !telnet
[01:20] <ubotu> telnet is not safe. Please use ssh instead. See !ssh
[01:20] <DeZ_666> Flannel: closed, they are.
[01:21] <cybervegan> you need to change /dev/hda1 to whatever disk/partition your ntfs partition is on
[01:21] <kagemaro> DeZ_666 - close Synaptic and Update Manager
[01:21] <adaptr> Paddy_EIRE it was mac os, originally
[01:21] <nbkr> jesSon_newbie, A chat server or a telnet server? That it not the same.
[01:21] <Cyrus25801> i feel like an idot. where is sources.list loucated aging
[01:21] <DeZ_666> And retry?
[01:21] <jesSon_newbie> telnet server, telnet talk server
[01:21] <jesSon_newbie> port 23
[01:22] <Paddy_EIRE> adaptr, gets a little confusing :P http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/Unix-history.svg
[01:22] <aricz_> Cyrus25801 : /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:22] <kagemaro> Cyrus25801 - /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:22] <adaptr> convoluted, is more like it
[01:22] <Flannel> DeZ_666: Double check that they're all closed.  Adept, Synaptic, Update Manager, other Apt-gets, aptitude, add/remove, etc.
[01:22] <Cyrus25801> thanx
[01:22] <nbkr> jesSon_newbie, Ok - so you want to administrate a system via telnet - that is not a good idea. Telnet ist not encrypted. Use SSH instead.
[01:22] <DeZ_666> I dont see anything like that open
[01:22] <DeZ_666> so ill assume they are closed :)
[01:22] <brownie17> do you think that if i ran a QEMU virtual box of windows in ubuntu i would be able to play age of empires 2?
[01:23] <Flannel> DeZ_666: if they are infact closed, we'll manually delete the lock file.  But if they're not closed, it can cause problems.  `ps aux | less` and check.
[01:23] <kagemaro> brownie17 - I know you can on a VMware virtualbox
[01:23] <jesSon_newbie> remember the old skul chat when people just connect to an ip like <IP_ADDRESS> 23 then they start chatting? that 1 i like to host 1
[01:23] <kagemaro> brownie17 - VMware server is now free
[01:23] <doug_> brownie17,  best thng for games is to dual boot xp and ubuntu
[01:24] <Paddy_EIRE> kagemaro, yeah but its not exactly got many features
[01:24] <Paddy_EIRE> kagemaro, and its not free free
[01:24] <nbkr> jesSon_newbie, that doesn't run on port 23 normaly.
[01:24] <kagemaro> doug_ - AOE2 requires about 16mb ram
[01:24] <pussfeller> how do you get that network applet off of manual and back to normal????
[01:24] <kagemaro> doug_ - I'd be surprised if it doesn't run under Wine :P
[01:24] <jesSon_newbie> yah but the common is 23 anyway u guys remember that? how can i host 1 ?
[01:24] <nbkr> jesSon_newbie, But there a serveral java apps around that implement such an thing.
[01:24] <CokeNCode> hey good morning guys, looking for a program to edit audio
[01:25] <CokeNCode> any suggestions ?
[01:25] <kagemaro> jesSon_newbie - sudo apt-get install sshd
[01:25] <Flannel> CokeNCode: Audacity?
[01:25] <nbkr> CokeNCode, audacity
[01:25] <CokeNCode> thanks guys
[01:25] <CokeNCode> didn't know audacity could edit
[01:25] <kagemaro> jesSon_newbie - then run sudo sshd from command bar
[01:25] <Paddy_EIRE> kagemaro, most would be surprised if it did run under wine :P
[01:25] <jesSon_newbie> then i have a telnet talk server?
[01:25] <pussfeller> i cant get the network applet off of manual mode
[01:25] <Flannel> jesSon_newbie, kagemaro, sshd will start automatically when installed
[01:25] <kagemaro> Paddy_EIRE - Most of my games run under Wine
[01:25] <pussfeller> i think i have to delete something
[01:25] <jrib> jesSon_newbie: the package you want for ssh server is "openssh-server", see ubotu's message for more details
[01:25] <DeZ_666> They dont appear to be open
[01:25] <jrib> !ssh > jesSon_newbie (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:25] <Flannel> DeZ_666: And you still get that error?
[01:26] <Paddy_EIRE> !worksforme | kagemaro
[01:26] <ubotu> kagemaro: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[01:26] <DeZ_666> sudo ./configure returns the same error
[01:26] <Flannel> DeZ_666: configure returns that error?
[01:26] <DeZ_666> how do i get out of ps aux
[01:26] <DeZ_666> D:
[01:26] <kagemaro> Paddy_EIRE - I have WoW, AOE2 (the game in question), Football Manager 2007 and a few others running flawlessly under Wine
[01:26] <nbkr> DeZ_666, ps aux terminates itself.
[01:26] <jrib> DeZ_666: are you sure you are "in" it?
[01:26] <Flannel> DeZ_666: q
[01:26] <DeZ_666> it just says (END) with a blinking cursor
[01:26] <mathieu_> bonjour, j'ai suivi un tuto, j'ai effac des truc et depuis quand je remarre j'ai un message : GDM ne peut crire dans votre fichier d'autorisation. Cela peut signifier que vous etes  cours d'espace disque ou que votre dossier personnel ne peut etre ouvert en criture. Dans tout les cas, il n'est pas possible de vous connecter. Veuillez contacter votre administrateur systme.
[01:26] <Flannel> jrib: he's in less
[01:27] <Flannel> !fr | mathieu_
[01:27] <ubotu> mathieu_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:27] <DeZ_666> AHA
[01:27] <DeZ_666> q worked.
[01:27] <Paddy_EIRE> kagemaro, yeah those generally have better support in wine... although in my exp a dual boot system is the way to go when it comes to games
[01:27] <jesSon_newbie> how do i setup sock 4 proxy server on my ubuntu ??? so ican connect on it when im not home ?
[01:27] <DeZ_666> Flannel: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:27] <DeZ_666> "
[01:27] <jesSon_newbie> suggest program pls
[01:27] <DeZ_666> err
[01:27] <DeZ_666> :/
[01:28] <Flannel> DeZ_666: that's because you need build-essential
[01:28] <Pirate_Hunter> !permission
[01:28] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[01:28] <DeZ_666> Please, explain how to get it :)
[01:28] <Flannel> jesSon_newbie: use ssh
[01:28] <Soup_> anyone here use VINO? Im having a problem when connecting from outside its majorly non responsive from vnc client
[01:28] <jesSon_newbie> ssh ?? then ???
[01:28] <kagemaro> jesSon_newbie - sudo apt-get install sshd
[01:28] <DeZ_666> lemme put the side of my case on real fast..
[01:28] <Soup_> I can see desktop and move mouse but it does not allow me to really use it even though I turned on full control
[01:28] <Flannel> DeZ_666: `sudo apt-get install build-essential` just like you've been trying.  Does it still give you the error?
[01:28] <jesSon_newbie> after that i just run sshd ?? sshd is a program / application ??
[01:28] <Flannel> jesSon_newbie: install the openssh-server package
[01:29] <aricz_> confuse him more
[01:29] <jrib> jesSon_newbie: no, it runs automatically
[01:29] <carvasf> anyone can help me with an atheros wireless card?
[01:29] <kagemaro> jesSon_newbie - sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:29] <kagemaro> Sorry my bad
[01:29] <Flannel> jesSon_newbie: no.  After you've done that, sshd will be running.  You connect to it with a ssh client, like, well, `ssh` or something like putty on windows.
[01:29] <Pirate_Hunter> how do I give myself read & write permission to my ntfs hard disk?
[01:29] <jesSon_newbie> it opens wat port?? sock 4 ryt? not proxy for web browser
[01:29] <DeZ_666> Sec lemme try to get build-essential
[01:29] <jrib> !ntfs-3g > Pirate_Hunter (see the private message from ubotu)
[01:29] <slight> can anyone tell me how to change the filesystem signature on a partition? i have an ext3 partition that got marked as fat32 by a windows recovery tool. It's definitely still ext3 because i can mount it with mount -t ext3
[01:29] <Soup_> Pirate go to repository and type NTS
[01:29] <DeZ_666> its d/ling it
[01:30] <Soup_> NTfs
[01:30] <kagemaro> jesSon_newbie - Why would you want to run proxy for web browser on your home machine?
[01:30] <cybervegan> pirate_hunter: do you want a quick fix or to understand how it works?
[01:30] <DeZ_666> slight
[01:30] <Soup_> easy app there I use it
[01:30] <jesSon_newbie> no not proxy for web browser , i said sock 4 like port 1080
[01:30] <tahit> u86ru86r8u6r86r
[01:30] <Paddy_EIRE> jrib, gonna give virtualbox a go with win2000
[01:30] <Soup_> anyone here use VINO? Im having a problem when connecting from outside its majorly non responsive from vnc client
[01:30] <slight> DeZ_666, : hi
[01:31] <Pirate_Hunter> cybervegan: quick fix would be nice about now
[01:31] <Paddy_EIRE> jrib, with ubuntu as the host ofcourse
[01:31] <DeZ_666> slight: you need disklabel, i think
[01:31] <cybervegan> pirate_hunter: are you ok editing linux config files?
[01:31] <nbkr> Soup_, is it such extremly slow? Then try to scale down the quality. Krdp should have a setting for it if you are using that.
[01:31] <basix> i'm trying to install Ubuntu 7.04 under Xen ( guest ). I've mounted the CD and created a symlink to it in /var/www/html/. I restarted apache. When I enter all the info in Virual Machine Manager to create a new paravirtualized machine, it says "[Errno 14]  HTTP Error 404". I checked if the Ubuntu install CD is accessible through localhost and it is perfectly accessible through Firefox. Why am i gettng that error message from the Virual Machine manager???
[01:31] <DeZ_666> or if the info doesnt matter, use gparted and reformat it?
[01:32] <GIn> why can't Ubuntu mount my 4GB memory stick , pro duo, automatically? it does mount smaller ones, 512MB.
[01:32] <Pirate_Hunter> cybervegan: u mean fstab yeha as long as you tell me the commands
[01:32] <slight> DeZ_666, it's my boot partition :)
[01:32] <DeZ_666> Oh my.
[01:32] <slight> DeZ_666, i do have the data so could reformat it, but i'd rather do a non-destructive fix if possible
[01:32] <DeZ_666> :)
[01:32] <jrib> Paddy_EIRE: you don't need to edit any files manually, ubotu's link tells you the gui program to install that will do all this for you
[01:32] <DeZ_666> disklabel?
[01:32] <Soup_> im in gnome, but is there a way to do like XP login into a new session remotely?
[01:32] <jrib> Pirate_Hunter: you don't need to edit any files manually, ubotu's link tells you the gui program to install that will do all this for you
[01:32] <DeZ_666> you need to change the partition code, type, whatever its called
[01:33] <slight> DeZ_666, it is actually working, grub just ignores the fact its labelled as fat32, but then its not mounted afterwards so updates will be a problem
[01:33] <Pirate_Hunter> jrib: ive tried that through automatix once it was all messed up
[01:33] <nbkr> Soup_, Yes it is possible to set up VNC Terminalserver - but not with Vino I guess.
[01:33] <jrib> Pirate_Hunter: no, no automatix... automatix is evil blah blah blah
[01:33] <Paddy_EIRE> jrib, :D
[01:33] <jesSon_newbie> flannel tell me more
[01:33] <slight> DeZ_666, yeah i'm just not sure how tto change it. parted doesn't seem to support doing that
[01:33] <Soup_> nbkr how and what program?
[01:34] <cybervegan> pirate_hunter: ok, wait a mo, just checking the exact spell
[01:34] <DeZ_666> You could hex it
[01:34] <DeZ_666> :D
[01:34] <Pirate_Hunter> jrib: lol so if i do it through synaptic it will go smoother and actually mount the hd every boot?
[01:34] <slight> *fears*
[01:34] <DeZ_666> Nothing wrong with hexing :/
[01:34] <jrib> Pirate_Hunter: yes, it's worked fine for many others
[01:34] <slight> no nothing wrong with it, i just fear it ;0
[01:34] <Paddy_EIRE> is there a command to see how much of my system ram is in use available
[01:34] <DeZ_666> Heheh.
[01:34] <jrib> Paddy_EIRE: free -m
[01:34] <Pirate_Hunter> cybervegan: np ill wait I need to learn the commands anyway for another occassion
[01:35] <nbkr> Soup_, tightvnc server is need. It has to be configured to start via inetd. I don't have the howto available - the server is down.
[01:35] <Pirate_Hunter> jrib: ok wil look at it but I want to do it manually, it will be last resort
[01:35] <DeZ_666> i wish pidgin worked on my puppy install
[01:35] <Soup_> ok anyone here own a real IMAC or mac?
[01:35] <jrib> Pirate_Hunter: sounds backwards, but ok :)
[01:35] <askand> Im planning to change graphics card in my computer..from ati to nvidia...how do you recommend me to do? SHould I reinstall ubuntu?
[01:36] <DeZ_666> >:| What the helll
[01:36] <DeZ_666> How do i get 'msgfmt'?
[01:36] <Pirate_Hunter> jrib: not really cause i wnat to learn how to do it, google just confuses me
[01:36] <cybervegan> pirate_hunter: open a command window and type:
[01:36] <cybervegan> pirate_hunter: sudo vi /etc/fstab
[01:37] <jrib> DeZ_666: install gettext
[01:37] <DeZ_666> How :D
[01:37] <ubuntu> a
[01:37] <Pirate_Hunter> cybervegan: we should go to a private room
[01:37] <jrib> DeZ_666: what are you doing?
[01:37] <askand> Im planning to change graphics card in my computer..from ati to nvidia...how do you recommend me to do? SHould I reinstall ubuntu?
[01:37] <DeZ_666> Compiling pidgin from source
[01:37] <ubuntu> eeeii
[01:37] <ubuntu> jejje
[01:37] <ubuntu> komerme un webo!!
[01:37] <cybervegan> pirate_hunter: you need to know the disk/partition number of your ntfs volume
[01:37] <jrib> !es | ubuntu
[01:37] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:37] <cybervegan> pirate_hunter: make a new line like this:
[01:38] <jrib> DeZ_666: do this:  sudo apt-get build-dep gaim    note that there are pidgin packages floating around at places like getdeb.net
[01:38] <DeZ_666> Lol
[01:38] <DeZ_666> :?
[01:38] <DeZ_666> is 15gb too small for a ubuntu part?
[01:38] <cybervegan> pirate_hunter: /dev/hdb1 /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[01:38] <PriceChild> DeZ_666, why are you building pidgin?
[01:38] <jrib> DeZ_666: nope
[01:38] <DeZ_666> Because i /want/ to.
[01:39] <PriceChild> DeZ_666, what feature from pidgin do you need that is not in gaim?
[01:39] <PriceChild> !highno | DeZ_666
[01:39] <ubotu> DeZ_666: A higher version number does not mean that it's better. Especially with packages such as the linux kernel. The packages in the Ubuntu repositories are stable and will work fine. You should have a better reason than "newer" when considering compiling from source or using 3rd party repos.
[01:39] <DeZ_666> Dont do that.
[01:39] <DeZ_666> I have a reason for my reason
[01:39] <DeZ_666> you just didnt ask
[01:40] <DeZ_666> :D Yay its compiling
[01:41] <[swb] > anyone have any ideas why my Windows Partition would suddenly stop booting, grub hangs at "Starting up..."
[01:41] <DeZ_666> wrong partition/drive?
[01:41] <cybervegan> [swb]  have you had any windows updates recently?
[01:41] <DeZ_666> I think ubuntu killed my GRUB
[01:41] <DeZ_666> need to go reinstall it
[01:41] <[swb] > I moved it with gparted, after doing that it worked fine and I played game sin it for 5 hours or so, but after I rebooted and went into ubuntu again, it has not worked since
[01:42] <Pirate_Hunter> jrib: i think Cybervegan is gone, could you teach me to mount a ntfs partition from scratch and give user priveledge
[01:42] <[swb] > cybervegan, nah, but I did install C&C3
[01:42] <Seveas> !ntfs | Pirate_Hunter
[01:42] <ubotu> Pirate_Hunter: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:42] <askand> Is there a place where I can check if mmy graphicscard is well supported bu ubuntu?
[01:42] <jesSon_newbie> im studying phyton programming and their file extension is .py , my question is can i run them on ubuntu terminal directly?? can you give me a example command to execute a .py file if its located inside my home directory let say the program file name is hello.py how do i run that on linux terminal???
[01:42] <DeZ_666> Does ubuntu have pmount?
[01:42] <jesSon_newbie> im studying phyton programming and their file extension is .py , my question is can i run them on ubuntu terminal directly?? can you give me a example command to execute a .py file if its located inside my home directory let say the program file name is hello.py how do i run that on linux terminal???
[01:42] <[swb] > ntfstools its ace btw
[01:42] <Seveas> DeZ_666, pmount is deprecated
[01:42] <DeZ_666> I like it.
[01:42] <[swb] > jesSon_newbie,
[01:42] <Pirate_Hunter> Seveas: i wish to learn how to do it manually but google is so confusing
[01:42] <CokeNCode>  /quit
[01:42] <jrib> Pirate_Hunter: just use ntfsconfig, see !fstab if you really want to do it manually
[01:42] <jesSon_newbie> ?
[01:43] <slight> !ntfs3g
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:43] <Seveas> Pirate_Hunter, read the manpage for mount then
[01:43] <DeZ_666> Furthermore, depreciated by what
[01:43] <trakie> hey i had a recent update and it killed my xorg, the only way i can start ubuntu now is going to the older version listed on GRUB - any ideas?
[01:43] <slight> !ntfs-3g
[01:43] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:43] <[swb] > make sure the first line is #!/usr/bin/python or whatever the path to you python is
[01:43] <[swb] > find out by doing which python
[01:43] <cybervegan> jessn_newbie: python hello.py
[01:43] <[swb] > then do chmod a+x whatever.py
[01:43] <Seveas> DeZ_666, deprecated by proper udev rules
[01:43] <[swb] > then you can do ./whatever.py
[01:43] <[swb] > or double click it from the desktop
[01:43] <DeZ_666> ..?
[01:44] <jrib> Pirate_Hunter: or see the bottom of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[01:44] <DeZ_666> Seveas: I dont understand.
[01:44] <seiya-off> Salut tout le monde!!
[01:44] <cybervegan> no need to chmod python script unless you want to run it without explicitly typing python ....
[01:44] <jesSon_newbie> just that python hello.py???
[01:44] <Seveas> !fr | seiya-off
[01:44] <ubotu> seiya-off: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:44] <[swb] > jesSon_newbie, or you could do that? if you want to invoke it with python directly
[01:44] <seiya-off> ok merci
[01:44] <TheRandom> is Vmware server free?
[01:44] <DeZ_666> Seveas: Please explain..?
[01:44] <cybervegan> jesson_newbie: yes (but you need to be in the same directory as hello.py)
[01:44] <jesSon_newbie> i dont have to write the location of directory like in dos terminal??
[01:45] <kagemaro> TheRandom - Yes, but it isn't open source
[01:45] <[swb] > so can anyone give me any tips on grub no longer booting windows?
[01:45] <TheRandom> kagemaro, why is it asking me for a serial key then
[01:45] <jesSon_newbie> can u give me a complete example of command
[01:45] <kagemaro> TheRandom - You can get a serial key free at www.vmware.com
[01:45] <TheRandom> danke
[01:45] <cybervegan> jesson_... no not unless you are in a different directory
[01:45] <Pirate_Hunter> once i install ntfs do i restart or what? I guess im going to have to learn how to mount manually some other time
[01:45] <kagemaro> TheRandom - Its just to prove you agreed to their terms and conditions
[01:45] <[swb] > the ntfs partittion is on /dev/hda3 and my grub is set with hd(0,2)
[01:46] <[swb] > which I think is right
[01:46] <jrib> Pirate_Hunter: after you install ntfsconfig you run it so it can configure your partitions
[01:46] <cybervegan> gotta go now, kids need feeding
[01:46] <DeZ_666> [swb] , how are you installing/configuring grub
[01:46] <jesSon_newbie> in xp i had to dl the phyton interpreter how bout in ubuntu does it have a built in intrepreter??
[01:46] <[swb] > DeZ_666, well I had it configured ages ago
[01:46] <[swb] > by manually editing menu.lst
[01:46] <kagemaro> jesSon - 'python' is the built in interpreter
[01:46] <Seveas> jesSon_newbie, the python interpreter is installed by default
[01:46] <DeZ_666> Ah
[01:46] <Pirate_Hunter> jrib: kk, while im here what are the advantages of using kde instead of gnome through feisty
[01:46] <kagemaro> jesSon_newbie - /usr/bin/python
[01:46] <[swb] > then when I resiezed the partition I changed it from hda2 to hda3
[01:47] <Seveas> jesSon_newbie, many things in Ubuntu are written in python
[01:47] <[swb] > and changed grub accordingly
[01:47] <jesSon_newbie> so i just type pyton hello.py ???
[01:47] <[swb] > and have run grub-install
[01:47] <kagemaro> python*
[01:47] <Seveas> jesSon_newbie, yup
[01:47] <DeZ_666> Eh
[01:47] <jesSon_newbie> no need to put the location like do i had to type cd home
[01:47] <kagemaro> jesSon_newbie - if you spell it wrong, it may not work
[01:47] <Mthed> Does anyone know why i can't find arial.ttf after installing ms corefonts?
[01:47] <jrib> Pirate_Hunter: it's subjective, but generally kde has more (too many?) configuration options
[01:47] <brownie17> hi guys, i'm trying to create a virtualbox of windows XP on ubuntu, using the following guide "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo"
[01:47] <DeZ_666> well, id help you more but id end up looking more noob than i already am
[01:47] <Seveas> Mthed, /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/arial.ttf
[01:48] <trakie> hey i had a recent update and it killed my xorg, the only way i can start ubuntu now is going to the older version listed on GRUB - any ideas?
[01:48] <kagemaro> jesSon_newbie - If you are in the same directory as the .py file, you do not need to specify the location of python
[01:48] <jesSon_newbie> how bout sudo hello.py ?? is that wrong ?
[01:48] <jrib> brownie17: note that vmware, virtualbox, and qemu are different things
[01:48] <boubbin> !sounds
[01:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sounds - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:48] <boubbin> !sound
[01:48] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:48] <brownie17> problem is, when i type "qemu -localtime -cdrom /dev/cdrom -m 384 -boot d windows.img" i get this output "qemu: could not open hard disk image '/dev/cdrom'"
[01:48] <jesSon_newbie> wat if im not in the same dir?? give exmple please
[01:48] <Pirate_Hunter> what are the advantages of kde through ubuntu instead of gnome
[01:48] <kagemaro> jesSon_newbie - That doesn't tell the operating system what to open the script with
[01:48] <brownie17> jrib, sorry, i definately mean qemu
[01:49] <kagemaro> jesSon_newbie - if the script is in, for example, /home/user/hello.py, then you can either cd /home/user and run 'python hello.py' or run 'python /home/user/hello.py'
[01:49] <jrib> brownie17: is your windows xp cdrom in the drive?
[01:49] <brownie17> jrib, yes. wait it might be in the wrong drive. i'll try the other drive
[01:49] <Pirate_Hunter> anyone heer know the advantages of kde as I wish to install it?
[01:49] <jesSon_newbie> exactly thats wat im asking
[01:49] <DeZ_666> Yay, pidgin is done
[01:49] <jesSon_newbie> like in dos
[01:49] <jesSon_newbie> ryt
[01:49] <kagemaro> Pirate_Hunter - KDE is pretty! :3
[01:49] <DeZ_666> Can someone answer a pretty newb question
[01:50] <DeZ_666> will pidgin appear on my menu :D
[01:50] <DeZ_666> automatically, that is
[01:50] <ColinE> it should
[01:50] <brownie17> jrib, you're a genius, thankyou. it's working now
[01:50] <kagemaro> jesSon_newbie - Yes, that's the answer, you dont have to tell ubuntu where python is, but you DO have to tell it where the script to execute is
[01:50] <Pirate_Hunter> kagemaro: lol im guessing system hog? could you explain if it has any advantage at all
[01:50] <chaad> kagemaro, thanks i have my pidgin fine now :)
[01:50] <kagemaro> DeZ_666 - mine always has
[01:50] <Seveas> DeZ_666, depends on how you built/installed it
[01:50] <jesSon_newbie> where should i start reading the python programming or C++ ?? i want to learn how to write program which is better?
[01:51] <kagemaro> Pirate_Hunter - It's not as bad as it used to be, system wise, but most of the advantages are purely aesthetic
[01:51] <brownie17> jrib, this is exciting
[01:51] <DeZ_666> uh
[01:51] <kagemaro> Pirate_Hunter - It is just plain better looking than gnome
[01:51] <DeZ_666> i compiled it from source
[01:51] <DeZ_666> :D
[01:51] <Seveas> DeZ_666, sure, but did you build a package or just the binary?
[01:51] <Pirate_Hunter> kagemaro: see np I was thinking it was something that helped ubuntu I dont need anything that just occupies space
[01:51] <kagemaro> jesSon_newbie - I'd look it up on Google, the official manual might be a good start
[01:51] <DeZ_666> Uhm
[01:51] <DeZ_666> how do i tell?
[01:51] <jesSon_newbie> official manual is??
[01:52] <jesSon_newbie> phyton or c++ which is easier ?
[01:52] <kagemaro> jesSon_newbie - http://www.python.org/doc/
[01:52] <Seveas> why don't you learn how to build things before ruining your system with experiments? :)
[01:52] <kagemaro> jesSon_newbie - They are made for totally different things
[01:52] <DeZ_666> Seveas
[01:52] <DeZ_666> my puppy livecd is good for at least one thing
[01:52] <jesSon_newbie> well my goal is to write a bot for chatting can python do that??
[01:52] <DeZ_666> gparted :)
[01:52] <Seveas> jesSon_newbie, python is easier to pick up, install the diveintopython book for a nice introduction
[01:52] <DeZ_666> im just foolin around ;)
[01:53] <kagemaro> jesSon_newbie - Yes, but I'd recommend perl or php might be better at it'
[01:53] <Seveas> jesSon_newbie, sure, ubotu is an irc bot written in python :)
[01:53] <Seveas> kagemaro, ROFL... trying to get a newbie to go for perl :)
[01:53] <kagemaro> jesSon_newbie - A friend of mine wrote full IRC services in php :P
[01:53] <jesSon_newbie> isnt php a server side programming? i want program that run like normal .exe file
[01:54] <TheRandom> kagemaro, I registered, have my keys, but 'Keys do not match licenses'
[01:54] <Seveas> jesSon_newbie, php can be a normal language as well
[01:54] <[swb] > jesSon_newbie, python is good, fun easy to learn and powerful
[01:54] <Seveas> TheRandom, then contact vmware support.
[01:54] <Pirate_Hunter> how come pidgin is not in synaptic? I knew something was missing when i installed Feisty especially since i was forced to use gaim for IRC
[01:54] <DeZ_666> you can run php as cli, right
[01:54] <kagemaro> TheRandom - are you sure you downloaded vmware server?
[01:54] <[swb] > but it wont run things as quickly as C++
[01:54] <Pirate_Hunter> anyway how do I install pidgin?
[01:54] <kagemaro> TheRandom - and not workstation or something?
[01:54] <TheRandom> kagemaro, VMware Server Console
[01:54] <TheRandom> It's whats running
[01:54] <jesSon_newbie> can i make dos based chat program using php ?? cuz i have php book also?
[01:54] <TheRandom> And I've set up a Virtual Machine
[01:54] <Seveas> Pirate_Hunter, apt-get install pidgin
[01:54] <niekie> uit
[01:55] <niekie> /quit
[01:55] <niekie> Err..
[01:55] <kagemaro> TheRandom - does it work?
[01:55] <[swb] > jesSon_newbie, python would be better for that
[01:55] <[swb] > and do you mean DOS? or command line on linux?
[01:55] <TheRandom> kagemaro, it requires a code.
[01:55] <Pirate_Hunter> Seveas: lol thanx u make this sound so easy
[01:55] <TheRandom> I've set the virtual pc up, but its asking for a serial code,
[01:55] <TheRandom> i enter the one form the website
[01:55] <TheRandom> with my name and company name
[01:55] <jesSon_newbie> wat about C++ wat can i do on that language ?
[01:55] <TheRandom> and it tells me The serial number entered did not match any licenses
[01:55] <etotheipi> AFAIK apt calls pidgin by gaim still
[01:55] <DeZ_666> jesSon_newbie, when you're talking about console applications, say console application or CLI
[01:55] <Seveas> jesSon_newbie, anything you want... just like with python
[01:55] <[swb] > same as pythong, probably a bit more, but there is alot more to learn
[01:56] <Seveas> pythong :D
[01:56] <[swb] > hur
[01:56] <DeZ_666> Lolz
[01:56] <kagemaro> http://register.vmware.com/content/registration.html - Did you go here TheRandom?
[01:56] <[swb] > jesSon_newbie, check out irssi
[01:56] <[swb] > or bitchx
[01:56] <TheRandom> Yes kagemaro
[01:56] <[swb] > sudo aptitude install irssi bitchx
[01:56] <kagemaro> TheRandom - and you filled out the same name and company name and reg code you got from there?
[01:57] <jesSon_newbie> ok so  the bottom line is that with phyton i can also write a program like this x-chat ryt??
[01:57] <[swb] > also for true eliteness, screen also
[01:57] <TheRandom> kagemaro, yes.
[01:57] <[swb] > jesSon_newbie, yes
[01:57] <Pirate_Hunter> Seveas: pidgin cannot be found, huh, what do i do now?
[01:57] <jesSon_newbie> wow
[01:57] <Seveas> Pirate_Hunter, use gaim :)
[01:57] <DeZ_666> right*
[01:57] <[swb] > in fact
[01:57] <[swb] > xchat is probalby quite alot python
[01:57] <Seveas> Pirate_Hunter, pidgin only exists in the devel version of Ubuntu
[01:57] <Seveas> [swb] , nope
[01:57] <jesSon_newbie> how about trojan can i make 1 also with using phyton ?
[01:57] <[swb] > Seveas, no?
[01:57] <Seveas> [swb] , xchat is pure C
[01:57] <DeZ_666> ..
[01:57] <kagemaro> Pirate_Hunter, try /usr/local/bin/pidgin
[01:57] <[swb] > hehe
[01:57] <Seveas> you can write python plugins for it though
[01:57] <[swb] > I just assumed it was a C base with the UI in python
[01:57] <DeZ_666> jesSon_newbie: http://tinyurl.com/2rfwr
[01:57] <[swb] > as more and more gnome programs are these days
[01:58] <[swb] > also the python scripting interface
[01:58] <kagemaro> jesSon_newbie - I don't think anyone here is going to help you write trojans
[01:58] <Pirate_Hunter> kagemaro: pidgin is not in synaptic so it wont download
[01:58] <jesSon_newbie> lol
[01:58] <Seveas> jesSon_newbie, if you want to be banned, continue like this.
[01:58] <Seveas> Pirate_Hunter, pidgin only exists in the devel version of Ubuntu <--
[01:58] <|FrOstiE|> lol jesSon_newbie
[01:58] <[swb] > haha
[01:58] <TheRandom> kagemaro, any ideas?
[01:58] <kagemaro> Pirate_Hunter - You can just install it from source
[01:58] <Pirate_Hunter> Seveas: u mean feisty doesnt have pidgin, am i right, damn
[01:59] <kagemaro> TheRandom - I'd contact VMWare support
[01:59] <kagemaro> TheRandom - or try registering again
[01:59] <Seveas> Pirate_Hunter, feisty has game. It's pretty much the same
[01:59] <[swb] > so grub... windows... someone must know
[01:59] <TheRandom> kagemaro, I've done it twicenow.
[01:59] <TheRandom> + space
[01:59] <predaeus> gaim
[01:59] <Pirate_Hunter> kagemaro: if i only knew how to work with tar.bz2
[01:59] <[swb] > I've seen this somewhere, anyone know what the map commands are used for in grub?
[01:59] <[swb] > map (hd0) (hd1) map (hd1) (hd0)
[01:59] <kagemaro> TheRandom - try #pidgin
[01:59] <Pirate_Hunter> Seveas: gaim is quite annoying but is doing the trick now
[01:59] <kagemaro> Sorry mistel
[01:59] <[swb] > kagemaro, on the command line tar -jxvf *.bz2
[01:59] <Seveas> [swb] , to fool stupid OS'es like windows into thinking they are on the first partition
[02:00] <[swb] > in the directory you donwloadedit to
[02:00] <kagemaro> Pirate_Hunter try #pidgin
[02:00] <predaeus> Pirate_Hunter, the gaim project was renamed to pidgin. in Feisty it still carries the name gaim, in gutsy it is called pidgin.
[02:00] <Seveas> Pirate_Hunter, pidgin is just as annoying :)
[02:00] <[swb] > hmm
[02:00] <TheRandom> kagemaro, what is pidgin?
[02:00] <mapp> pidgin is the new version of gaim i believe
[02:00] <[swb] > Seveas, first disk surely..?
[02:00] <kagemaro> TheRandom - If it were me, I'd contact VMWare support, they're pretty helpful from my experience
[02:00] <TheRandom> Righto
[02:00] <TheRandom> I think i'll do it later though
[02:00] <Pirate_Hunter> predaeus: there is an irc client im missing i never liked using gaim when i was on drapper
[02:00] <Seveas> [swb] , err, yeah :)
[02:01] <predaeus> Pirate_Hunter, try xchat.
[02:01] <TheRandom> my girlfriend is arriving in like, 20 minutes, and my room is a tip as i've spent all this morning trying to get ubuntu to install :P
[02:01] <kagemaro> TheRandom - http://www.vmware.com/support/phone_support.html
[02:01] <Pirate_Hunter> predaeus: thats the one
[02:01] <Kakeman> anyone with nvidia 8xxx + gutsy?
[02:01] <TheRandom> kagemaro, as said above, i'll store it and do it later :p
[02:02] <rafaelscj> !synaptics
[02:02] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[02:02] <kagemaro> Oh, those are not free :/
[02:02] <brownie17> TheRandom, wait... nerd with girlfriend???
[02:02] <brownie17> TheRandom, are you an imposter linux nerd??
[02:02] <TheRandom> brownie17, I know, it came as a shock to me as well :P
[02:02] <TheRandom> heh
[02:02] <Seveas> !offtopic | brownie17 / TheRandom
[02:02] <ubotu> brownie17 / TheRandom: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:02] <mapp> LOL
[02:02] <TheRandom> i'm a n00b at linux.
[02:02] <kagemaro> brownie17 - Another one here I'm afraid, I must be not nerdy enough
[02:02] <mapp> nerd with a girlfriend,
[02:02] <mapp> ahh he's a noob
[02:02] <mapp> i must be nerdy enough, no girlfriend here
[02:02] <mapp> =]
[02:02] <Pirate_Hunter> lol
[02:03] <TheRandom> lol
[02:03] <goundy> lol
[02:03] <|FrOstiE|> lol
[02:03] <mapp> that or i am a closet gay, i'd prefer to think the first tho
[02:03] <TheRandom> anyway
[02:03] <brownie17> kagemaro, hahah, i'm a part time linux nerd, and i have a girlfriend, but i think this is okay because i'm only 17 so girls aren't hard to meet
[02:03] <TheRandom> i must be getting clean O_o
[02:03] <|FrOstiE|> :O
[02:03] <brownie17> mapp, hahahah
[02:03] <TheAway> oh btw
[02:03] <mapp> ahh he's a young'un'
[02:03] <TheAway> does this channel permit idling?
[02:03] <mapp> yea
[02:04] <gordonjcp> hope so
[02:04] <Seveas> TheAway, yes, but not away messages
[02:04] <kagemaro> brownie17 - I'm 19
[02:04] <TheAway> mapp, I'm only 16, but im the IT manager at my cousins company :P
[02:04] <Pirate_Hunter> what is idling?
[02:04] <mapp> as far as i am aware, look at all the people idle
[02:04] <mapp> Pirate, just idle, no activity
[02:04] <Seveas> TheAway, there are 1000+ people in here, imagine all of them not being idle...
[02:04] <[swb] > haha I used to be 16
[02:04] <[swb] > then shirtly after 17\
[02:04] <[swb] > now I am 24
[02:04] <TheRandom> heh Seveas
[02:04] <Pirate_Hunter> lol i feel super newb
[02:04] <[swb] > its better
[02:04] <[swb] > *shortly
[02:04] <mapp> lol
[02:04] <kagemaro> I have a supermodel girlfriend
[02:04] <mapp> bless em eh
[02:05] <[swb] > my girlfriend is a level 12 warlock :/
[02:05] <|FrOstiE|> lol
[02:05] <mapp> LOL
[02:05] <TheRandom> lol
[02:05] <K-Fox> really?
[02:05] <[swb] > haha no
[02:05] <mapp> warlock must be some wow thing i assume?:P
[02:05] <mapp> wow ..cool
[02:05] <Seveas> guys, this is a support channel -- can you please move the chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[02:05] <[swb] > shes hot as hell, and uses ubuntu
[02:05] <kagemaro> My girlfriend is a level 70 warlock with epic gear! :3
[02:05] <brownie17> kagemaro, lol. sure. also, you drive a cadilac and you have $4,000,000 in cash next to you.
[02:05] <mapp> move chan!
[02:05] <[swb] > truly hers is a butt that won't quit
[02:05] <kagemaro> brownie17 - Actually I drive a Lotus
[02:05] <K-Fox> see your girlfriend's picture
[02:05] <|FrOstiE|> soz Seveas
[02:05] <TheRandom> kagemaro, my girlfriend is hawt :P
[02:05] <brownie17> Seveas, haha sorry.
[02:05] <damaltor_> quick question: where do i have to add programs i want to have started directly after each reboot?
[02:05] <TheRandom> O-o
[02:06] <TheRandom> a wha now
[02:06] <[swb] > damaltor, when you log into gnome?
[02:06] <Seveas> damaltor_, depends on when you want them started
[02:06] <TheRandom> anyway
[02:06] <TheRandom> bai
[02:06] <kagemaro> Come to #ubuntu-offtopic :P
[02:06] <mapp> err depends yea, could be init.d if just at boot
[02:06] <damaltor_> Seveas: after each reboot, no gui, only console system
[02:06] <Seveas> damaltor_, /etc/rc.local is good for things like that
[02:06] <brownie17> guys in the output in the terminal window for qemu, it says "Could not open '/dev/kqemu' - QEMU acceleration layer not activated"
[02:06] <brownie17> is this because i forgot to run it as root?
[02:07] <damaltor_> what does "rc" stand for?
[02:07] <_Johny> Guys. Ubuntu doesn't seem to install on the Acer 5920G laptop. Has anyone already found out?
[02:07] <Seveas> brownie17, no, that's because kqemu isn't there
[02:07] <mapp> Seveas, couldnt you use /etc/init./d for that?
[02:07] <pussfeller> hey people can someone tell me how to get the network applet wroking again? i tried manual mode and now i cant get back to roaming, my wireless netowrks thing isnt coming up
[02:07] <Seveas> mapp, /etc/rc.local is run by /etc/init.d/rc.local :)
[02:07] <mapp> ahh oke:)
[02:07] <mapp> thanks
[02:07] <damaltor_> _Johny: look at http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[02:07] <brownie17> Seveas, it should be, it used to be i think, darn it. any ideas what to do?
[02:07] <_Johny> damaltor: I will, thanks
[02:07] <pussfeller> _Johny: sometimes you have to pass boot parameters like NOACPI when you start the live dvd
[02:08] <[swb] > brb all, going to try fdisk /mbr with a windows CD
[02:08] <pussfeller> my hp is like that
[02:08] <mapp> what does NOACPI mean?
[02:08] <brownie17> "crw-rw---- 1 root root 10, 62 2007-09-02 21:39 /dev/kqemu"
[02:08] <brownie17> Seveas, see my last post
[02:08] <Seveas> brownie17, ah, then you must indeed run it as root :)
[02:08] <pussfeller> mapp: something to do with the initial power management, i think
[02:09] <brownie17> Seveas, thankyou. i'm currently in the middle of installing windows XP through it, and it's painfully slow :(
[02:09] <Seveas> mapp, needing that parameter means that the people who built your machine have violated the ACPI spec and using powermanagement things will break (on) your hardware
[02:09] <_Johny> pussfeller: Do you mean "skip" by saying "pass"?
[02:10] <mapp> ahhh
[02:10] <mapp> :)
[02:11] <pussfeller> no, i mean by adding them to the boot params _Johny
[02:11] <pussfeller> you have to hit f5 or f7 i think
[02:11] <_Johny> pussfeller: I see
[02:12] <mapp> oh
[02:12] <pussfeller> _Johny: i put how to get my HP laptop booting on http://toddtech.us
[02:12] <pussfeller> yours is liekely different
[02:12] <pussfeller> but it will show you an example
[02:12] <_Johny> on linux laptop. net there seems to be one succesfull install, No traces of Ubuntu
[02:15] <A[D] minS> can anyone please help me to remove postfix " http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36025/ "
[02:16] <Seveas> A[D] minS, I think you need to configure it first, sudo dpkg --configure postfix
[02:16] <musically_ut> Can anyone tell me possible reasons how Ctrl-Alt-{Function keys} stop switching tty's? They work upto the login screen but after logging in, they stop working. I am clueless as to why this is.
[02:16] <fire26> re
[02:17] <_Johny> pussfeller: I'll take a look, thanks :)
[02:17] <A[D] minS> Seveas: This is the output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36027/
[02:17] <_Johny> Is there any other site regarding installing Ubuntu on laptops?
[02:18] <Seveas> A[D] minS, hmm, looks like it's a bit broken
[02:18] <Seveas> A[D] minS, sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/postfix*.deb
[02:18] <NoRes> Hi. I've booted up on the install CD, but I can't get the screen to display at anything more than 600x480. And consequently, the install program won't display properly.
[02:18] <A[D] minS> Seveas: yes it is ,,, that is why i am trying to remove it by force
[02:18] <Soup_> anyone know a terminal server service that allows remote desktop connections like XP allows via rdp for Ubuntu? I wan tot connect to my ubuntu home machine while at the office
[02:18] <west> anyone tryed to install CPanel on UBUNTU'?>
[02:19] <A[D] minS> Seveas:  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[02:20] <Seveas> A[D] minS, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/postfix/postfix_2.3.8-2_i386.deb grab that and dpkg -i it
[02:20] <predaeus> Soup_, use ssh.
[02:20] <NoRes> Hi. I've booted up on the install CD, but I can't get the screen to display at anything more than 600x480. And consequently, the install program won't display properly.
[02:20] <predaeus> Soup_, run an ssh server on your home machine.
[02:20] <Soup_> link?
[02:20] <Soup_> is it in repository?
[02:21] <predaeus> Soup_, yes, look for ssh, I think it is a meta package for openssh, but better double check.
[02:21] <Seveas> predaeus, it is
[02:21] <west> Ubuntu Server Edition should have apache installed right? cause i can't find apache on my server
[02:21] <LiberCogito> Wireless and linux are hell.
[02:21] <NoRes> Hi. I've booted up on the install CD, but I can't get the screen to display at anything more than 600x480. And consequently, the install program won't display properly.
[02:22] <N3oXid> Anyone could help me with a Promise SX4100 S-ATA RAID Controler ?
[02:22] <Seveas> west, only if you told it to install apache during install
[02:22] <west> Seveas: I did, i chose between DNS AND LAMP
[02:22] <Seveas> west, dpkg -l '*apache*'
[02:23] <Seveas> does that show anything apache related?
[02:23] <kkfoxcc> hello everyone
[02:23] <N3oXid> I have tried to load sata_sx4 module but I am not able to see any disk
[02:23] <kkfoxcc> i need help
[02:23] <kkfoxcc> with network
[02:23] <N3oXid> kkfoxcc ?
[02:23] <kkfoxcc> yes
[02:23] <west> Seveas: yes, apache 1.3.34
[02:23] <Soup_> cant find it predaues
[02:24] <N3oXid> kkfoxcc, which problem ?
[02:24] <Seveas> west, that's odd -- ubuntu doesn't support that
[02:24] <kkfoxcc> i need connect linux with windows 2003
[02:24] <Seveas> west, could you pastebin the output dpkg gave you?
[02:24] <_Johny> pussfeller: I printed out the info on your site, thank you :)
[02:24] <Soup_> Putty SSH?
[02:24] <kkfoxcc> but i don not now how i begin
[02:24] <adac> hi! Is it possible to 'update' packages from i386 to amd64?
[02:24] <Seveas> adac, only by reinstalling completely
[02:25] <N3oXid> What do you want to do exactly ?
[02:25] <NoRes> Help. I've booted up on the install CD, but I can't get the screen to display at anything more than 600x480. And consequently, the install program won't display properly.
[02:25] <thomas_> !compiz
[02:25] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:25] <Seveas> !repeat | NoRes
[02:25] <ubotu> NoRes: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
 do u now
[02:25] <adac> Seveas: ok thx!
[02:25] <west> Seveas: it's on my other pc, and it is not connected to internet, what information exactly do you want?
[02:25] <N3oXid> Probably :) But what do you want to do exactly ?
[02:25] <kkfoxcc> ok
[02:25] <Seveas> west, why do you want a server that's not connected? :)
[02:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning Seveas... I am trying to setup a wirelss on a laptop.  Card works and can connect to a reighbors open network.  I am trying to get it to connect to my 2wire .  I have security option of wep-open or shared and wpa-psk 1 & 2 .. I have my encryption key and my access point id.  I see the access point and the laptop offers to connect with 128 bit key. But dosent.  ...
[02:26] <jc-denton> how can i check the temperature of the cpu
[02:26] <kkfoxcc> i want windows see linux
[02:26] <Seveas> !samba | kkfoxcc
[02:26] <ubotu> kkfoxcc: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:26] <kkfoxcc> on network
[02:26] <N3oXid> Ok, so you have to use Samba
[02:26] <kkfoxcc> ok
[02:26] <jc-denton> there are some tools to access ext3 from windows
[02:26] <jc-denton> do u mean that?
[02:26] <kkfoxcc> i am with u
[02:26] <kkfoxcc> but how i begin
[02:26] <NoRes> Seveas define quickly.
[02:26] <N3oXid> kkfoxcc: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:26] <Seveas> !u
[02:26] <ubotu> Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[02:26] <west> Seveas: i have only one connection, i have to switch my connection from one pc to another, and now i am trying to solve my problems
[02:27] <kkfoxcc> telme how ican start
[02:27] <west> Seveas: i am newbie, still a windows user
[02:27] <Seveas> kkfoxcc, start by following the links ubotu gave
[02:27] <N3oXid> RTFM ;)
[02:27] <kkfoxcc> let me chick
[02:27] <Jack_Sparrow> N3oXid: Not appreciated
[02:27] <N3oXid> Take a look at the previous links
[02:27] <N3oXid> Jack_Sparrow : sorry
[02:27] <Seveas> west, installing packages on ubuntu requires an internet connection. So if you need to install something, you're going to have to switch anyway
[02:28] <JRDezine> hey hey
[02:28] <west> Seveas: can you help me, if i give you access to server?
[02:29] <kkfoxcc> think for all help me
[02:29] <kkfoxcc> it is work
[02:29] <NoRes> well thanks for nothing guys. I'm going back to windows.
[02:29] <predaeus> jc-denton, look for sensors, lm-sensors, gsensors or something like that, there should be a panel applet in gnome that displays cpu temp. if it does not work out of the box then look for !sensors.
[02:29] <chaad> NoRes, lol
[02:29] <Seveas> west, if I didn't have to go in 3 minutes I could :)
[02:29] <brownie17> NoRes, ooooh, burn. no need to be mean. we tried to help but if we couldn't there's no need to be rude
[02:29] <brownie17> Seveas, lol
[02:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Seveas: We appreciate your time as always
[02:29] <west> Seveas: ok, thanks anyway
[02:29] <kkfoxcc> i love open source movement
[02:30] <jc-denton> predaeus: on the shell
[02:30] <kkfoxcc> thinks agin for all
[02:30] <Ar-Pharazon> Hello, I have a problem with ubuntu feisty running slower (much slower) than I think it should. I think it might be trying to "save" RAM by reading from HDD all the time... This laptop handled Vista Home Premium fine (for the first week hehe) so maybe there are any performance related settings I forgot to set right?
[02:30] <jc-denton> i don't have gnome installed
[02:30] <Seveas> west, I'll be back in 20 minutes so if your problem isn't solved by then just poke me
[02:30] <brownie17> jc-denton, do i sense a deus ex nerd?
[02:30] <predaeus> jc-denton, sensors
[02:30] <west> Seveas ok :P
[02:31] <Seta-San> oh well. i got ubuntu working fine! http://setasan.game-server.cc:8080/test.php
[02:31] <Seta-San> err. at least that's my webserver :P
[02:31] <N3oXid> How can I make a S-ATA RAID controler card working ?
[02:31] <MasterOfDisaster> Seta-San: congratz
[02:31] <chaad> anyone know how can i open a xlsx file? convert it to xls somehow?
[02:31] <jc-denton> predaeus: thx
[02:31] <Seta-San> http://setasan.game-server.cc:8080/forums/ my forums :P
[02:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !raid
[02:31] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[02:31] <MasterOfDisaster> chaad: openoffice.org
[02:31] <N3oXid> I have created an array, RAID 0 with one disk.
[02:31] <DeZ_666> Seveas: sorry for earlier
[02:31] <N3oXid> But I am not able to see this disk.
[02:32] <chaad> :o oo suppoort xlsx?
[02:32] <_Johny> bye
[02:32] <Seta-San> i was wondering. is there an easy way to update your packages in the server edition?
[02:32] <MasterOfDisaster> chaad: guess so - try it
[02:32] <Seveas> chaad, buy office 2003, convert it, done
[02:32] <Seveas> chaad, even office xp and earlier can't open that crud
[02:32] <Seveas> Seta-San, apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[02:33] <Seta-San> sweet
[02:33] <DeZ_666> Seveas: can you help me with grub please?
[02:33] <MasterOfDisaster> chaad, Seveas: http://www.noheat.com/2007/03/19/convert-xlsx-to-xls-and-docx-to-doc-easily
[02:33] <Zapt> hi
[02:33] <DeZ_666> hi.
[02:33] <Seta-San> i love SSH
[02:33] <Zapt> has anybody checked out the recent alpha of gutsy?
[02:33] <Seta-San> no need for a keyboard or moniter hooked to the server :P
[02:33] <MasterOfDisaster> Google: 1, Some #Ubuntu Patrons: 0 :-P
[02:33] <chaad> mmm, the thing is i dont want to go bck to windows :D
[02:33] <PriceChild> !gutsy | Zapt
[02:33] <ubotu> Zapt: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[02:33] <Ar-Pharazon> Can anyone help please? Ubuntu runs too slow on a reasonably fast laptop.
[02:33] <Seveas> MasterOfDisaster, excellent :)
[02:33] <MasterOfDisaster> chaad: wine
[02:34] <chaad> and no, oo cant open xlsx
[02:34] <philthy> What is the best torrent client?
[02:34] <Zapt> PriceChild? I know what gutsy is I just wanted to ask if anybody has made some experience with it?
[02:34] <MasterOfDisaster> philthy: define 'best'
[02:34] <DeZ_666> personally, i used utorrent, on windows XP
[02:34] <DeZ_666> :)
[02:34] <PriceChild> Zapt, then read the factoid ubotu gave you and work out why you shouldn't ask here :)
[02:34] <brownie17> philthy, i love transmission. i have tried the others, all of them. i find i get superior speeds with transmission
[02:34] <MasterOfDisaster> philthy: I'd go with rtorrent
[02:34] <kagemaro> I use Deluge on Ubuntu
[02:34] <Seveas> !best
[02:34] <Zapt> philthy, I'm using utorrent running under wine
[02:34] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[02:34] <chaad> MasterOfDisaster, can i "wine" my office installed in my windows partition?
[02:34] <philthy> MasterOfDisaster, obviously I can't. What do you reccomend? I also use utorrent on windows and would like something like that
[02:35] <chaad> i use deluge as well
[02:35] <DeZ_666> Can someone help me with grub + ubuntu?
[02:35] <kagemaro> philthy - Check out deluge
[02:35] <MasterOfDisaster> philthy: I use ktorrent and rtorrent
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning ... I am trying to setup a wirelss on a laptop.  Card works and can connect to a reighbors open network.  I am trying to get it to connect to my 2wire .  I have security option of wep-open or shared and wpa-psk 1 & 2 .. I have my encryption key and my access point id.  I see the access point and the laptop offers to connect with 128 bit key. But dosent.  ...
[02:35] <MasterOfDisaster> chaad: perhaps.
[02:36] <MasterOfDisaster> chaad: try installing it via wine first
[02:36] <Seta-San> sweet. upgrading my ubuntu server now
[02:36] <Seta-San> i like it :)
[02:36] <DeZ_666> jack_sparrow: did you check if its using AES or TKIP
[02:36] <Soup_> anyone know a terminal server service that allows remote desktop connections like XP allows via rdp for Ubuntu? I wan tot connect to my ubuntu home machine while at the office
[02:36] <basix> how do i install Ubuntu paravirtualized??
[02:36] <AndrewB> Soup_: look at vnc
[02:36] <DeZ_666> was gonna suggest vnc, yeah
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> DeZ_666: no idea on how to do that.  I dont see anything like that in the router settings
[02:36] <MasterOfDisaster> Soup_: http://xrdp.sourceforge.net/
[02:36] <Soup_> I have been
[02:36] <chaad> MasterOfDisaster, i cant afford to install office in my linx partition :( i would like to run it (wine it) from the one installed in my windows partition though
[02:37] <DeZ_666> jack_sparrow: i mean try changing it on the client side
[02:37] <TheRandom> Hello again
[02:37] <DeZ_666> not router side
[02:37] <MasterOfDisaster> Soup_: apt-cache search :-P
[02:37] <N3oXid> Looking for help in order to use a disk connected to a S-ATA RAID Controler Card
[02:37] <TheRandom> I'm installing Ubuntu, I want to install it onto my G:\ drive which has a partition of 20gbs set aside for i
[02:37] <TheRandom> it*
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> DeZ_666: I dont see any option for that in the network manager either
[02:37] <TheRandom> Ubuntu is picking up the drive as /media/hdc5
[02:37] <TheRandom> i select it and it says
[02:37] <DeZ_666> *shrug* ive never used linux w/ a wireless card
[02:37] <Soup_> whats that master?
[02:37] <TheRandom> 'No root file system is defined'
[02:38] <TheRandom> Soup_ the master is C:\
[02:38] <DeZ_666> therandom: try checking it with gparted
[02:38] <MasterOfDisaster> chaad: go to winehq, there should be a howto there on how to use a existing windows installation
[02:38] <TheRandom> which has XP installed onto
[02:38] <DeZ_666> see if it has a filesystem
[02:38] <vlt> Hello. I need to edit a ps/pdf file on Ubuntu Feisty 7.04. I want to replace images, crop the size and remove elements. What tool is available for this tasks?
[02:38] <TheRandom> Well can you install Ubuntu onto a drive which isnt master and doesnt have the boot.ini
[02:38] <Soup_> im lost
[02:38] <chaad> MasterOfDisaster, thanks master
[02:38] <DeZ_666> Dunno :D
[02:38] <chaad> yes master !
[02:39] <TheRandom> >_<
[02:39] <AndrewB> vlt: sourceforge.net/projects/pdfedit
[02:39] <DeZ_666> I had a big headache with slave/master drives and grub and partitions
[02:39] <Soup_> IM new to ubuntu got the pc up and running pretty well but I need to connect from this from outside, VINO sucks its not even responding
[02:39] <Jowi> Soup_, freenx is ok
[02:39] <Jowi> !freenx
[02:39] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[02:39] <TheRandom> DeZ_666, I formatted it using Partition Magic and its type is NTFS
[02:39] <DeZ_666> OH GOD
[02:39] <Seta-San> hey. well that upgrade thing you told me about upgrade the distro when a new version comes out?
[02:39] <DeZ_666> Partition Magic.......
[02:39] <vlt> AndrewB: Thank you. I'll have a look ...
[02:39] <DeZ_666> use GParted
[02:39] <Ubuntu> hey
[02:39] <brownie17> DeZ_666, i have baaaad experiences with partition magic
[02:39] <DeZ_666> Same
[02:40] <DeZ_666> :D
[02:40] <TheRandom> >_<
[02:40] <TheRandom> Well anyway I've used it :p
[02:40] <TheRandom> Whats going wrong?
[02:40] <Ubuntu> yo is there anybody play Savage?
[02:40] <frost0> how do i make a virtual window to use when ssh'ing so when i close the program does not terminate?
[02:40] <Ubuntu> yo is there anybody play Savage?
[02:40] <CompJunki> sup
[02:40] <DeZ_666> Partition magic isnt good
[02:40] <CompJunki> hehe
[02:40] <DeZ_666> ive heard lots of sob stories about it
[02:40] <DeZ_666> on this tech forum im on
[02:40] <jrib> !screen > frost0 (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:40] <Soup_> Jowi what the hell which file do I get there are 100 in there
[02:40] <brownie17> TheRandom, it has it's good sides, it's simple to use, but i wouldn't rely on it if i could help it. if it's worked for you so far then good. well done
[02:40] <Ubuntu> it's work great in my Ubuntu feisty fawn
[02:40] <AndrewB> frost0: checkout screen
[02:40] <CompJunki> ubuntu do you have to repeat ?
[02:40] <Ar-Pharazon> Anyone? Please? I think ubuntu is supposed to run faster than it does for me.
[02:40] <AndrewB> oh.. jrib bet me.
[02:40] <MasterOfDisaster> DeZ_666: I wouldn't touch resizing ntfs with a ten foot pole - went wrong everytime I messed with it.
[02:40] <harris> hi.. i am having trouble opening the restricted drivers manager on ubuntu 7.04... it's says i need linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-server but i can't find that package
[02:40] <TheRandom> brownie17, I dont know if it worked for me, I'm trying to install ubuntu >_<
[02:40] <Ubuntu> It's Weird Codename : Feisty Fawn?
[02:40] <Jowi> PQMagic was very good the time I used it last (pqmagic 3 and 5 if i remember)
[02:40] <DeZ_666> Even with GParted?
[02:41] <TheRandom> 'No root files system is defined'
[02:41] <TheRandom> how do i define it?
[02:41] <CompJunki> ubuntu stop being a lamer.
[02:41] <Ubuntu> Try Sudo
[02:41] <DeZ_666> TheRandom
[02:41] <CompJunki> or ill hacker you
[02:41] <DeZ_666> use Gparted.
[02:41] <CompJunki> bitch
[02:41] <TheRandom> >_<
[02:41] <CompJunki> :D
[02:41] <AndrewB> !language | CompJunki
[02:41] <ubotu> CompJunki: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:41] <Ubuntu> Try Sudo And Enter you password
[02:41] <raynerd> Hey anyone used reconstructor before?
[02:41] <TheRandom> Its not to do with the hd!
[02:41] <MasterOfDisaster> CompJunki: don't feed the trolls
[02:41] <TheRandom> Its to do with the ubuntu installer
[02:41] <CompJunki> hehehe
[02:41] <CompJunki> im the bad
[02:41] <CompJunki> ?
[02:41] <DeZ_666> Ok?
[02:41] <CompJunki> heh
[02:41] <CompJunki> i ma
[02:41] <frost0> jrib, i can only ssh into it though.... i remember something like ctrl -r though...
[02:41] <CompJunki> im a gangsta
[02:41] <frost0> jrib, anything similar?
[02:42] <Ubuntu> -_-" Someone know Sim-im
[02:42] <DeZ_666> When i chose a partition in the installer i chose manual
[02:42] <raynerd> Anyone used reconstructor to edit and construct their own live CD ?
[02:42] <christian_> Some of my games cannot identify my extra mousebuttons ( mb4 & 5 ), does this have to do with ubuntu or the game?
[02:42] <DeZ_666> cos i already had set up a ext3 part on my drive
[02:42] <Jowi> Soup_, sorry? the link ubotu gave tell you how to set up freenx
[02:42] <TheRandom> DeZ_666, I did that
[02:42] <CompJunki> Can i ask why we cant swear in a channel #?
[02:42] <linuxwho> nvidia mcp61 chipset, any drivers that work for the chipset?
[02:42] <TheRandom> Now I have to select it
[02:42] <MasterOfDisaster> Ubuntu: yes, imo it sucks - get yourself pidgin
[02:42] <DeZ_666> So, select it then
[02:42] <jrib> frost0: once you ssh in, run "screen", then run your programs.  When you disconnect, screen will stay running and you can reattach it later if you want
[02:42] <Ubuntu> -_-" Ubuntu Is not Great with games
[02:42] <Ubuntu> -_-" Ubuntu Is not Great with games
[02:42] <Ubuntu> Try Wine
[02:42] <Soup_> what windows client can connect to freenx?
[02:42] <AndrewB> CompJunki: cause it is a family friendly channel, please read the guidelines..
[02:42] <Seta-San> yo. i've got a question. is there a problem with ubuntu and either evga 7800gt video cards or foxconn 939 motherboards?
[02:42] <PriceChild> MasterOfDisaster, what's wrong with gaim?
[02:42] <MasterOfDisaster> PriceChild: gaim *is* pidgin
[02:43] <DeZ_666> Lolz
[02:43] <Ar-Pharazon> Umm... Please please please help me speed up ubuntu? I can provide more details than "it's slow".
[02:43] <Ubuntu> Gaim is relley bad
[02:43] <CompJunki> hahahahah
[02:43] <jrib> Ubuntu: do you have a support question?
[02:43] <frost0> jrib, okay..but is there a command like ctrl -r ? ....they prefer i use the same ones, so we all know what is going on.
[02:43] <Jowi> Soup_, yes. freenx/nomachine clients exist for windows
[02:43] <CompJunki> you know you love me
[02:43] <PriceChild> MasterOfDisaster, No it isn't. Gaim is installed by default on ubutnu wheras pidgin isn't. Please don't suggest Pidgin in this channel.
[02:43] <CompJunki> :D
[02:43] <Ubuntu> Sim-im Rule in icq and msn
[02:43] <MasterOfDisaster> Ar-Pharazon: go ahead
[02:43] <Ubuntu> i thinks so
[02:43] <Ubuntu> Someone Try Install Rar,Unrar?
[02:43] <MasterOfDisaster> PriceChild: what are you babbling about?
[02:43] <CompJunki> ubuntu whats your problem
[02:43] <jrib> frost0: screen -r  reattaches, is this what you mean?
[02:43] <Ubuntu> Someone Try Install Rar,Unrar?
[02:43] <fjkey> How much ram will edubuntu recconize
[02:43] <Ubuntu> is great
[02:43] <CompJunki> erm
[02:43] <MasterOfDisaster> PriceChild: pidgin is gaim 2.0?
[02:44] <frost0> jrib, i guess...all i remeber is the -r :)
[02:44] <jrib> !rar > Ubuntu (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:44] <Ubuntu> I thinks gaim is relley bad
[02:44] <frost0> jrib, but to create a window..i do what?
[02:44] <PriceChild> MasterOfDisaster, but pidgin isn't in ubuntu
[02:44] <PriceChild> !offtopic | Ubuntu
[02:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:44] <CompJunki> ubotu
[02:44] <CompJunki> ::D
[02:44] <digitalspaghetti> Has anyone managed to get the free C&C thats been released to install with Wine?
[02:44] <Fusion_> hi! what's the repo for pidgin?
[02:44] <Jowi> Soup_, http://www.nomachine.com/download.php
[02:44] <DeZ_666> PriceChild: you are aware that gaim had to be renamed because of copyright infringement right
[02:44] <digitalspaghetti> i get an error regarding the CD not being found
[02:44] <AndrewB> Ubuntu: pm :)
[02:44] <jrib> frost0: 'screen' starts you off, take a look at the intro docs that ubotu linked you to
[02:44] <PriceChild> DeZ_666, yes, but pidgin isn't in ubuntu so please don't suggest it as gaim works just as well.
[02:44] <DeZ_666> No it doesnt work just as well.
[02:45] <DeZ_666> gaim lacks something I need.
[02:45] <MasterOfDisaster> PriceChild: just because something isn't contained in a repo doesn't make it wrong to suggest, mate...
[02:45] <Ubuntu> Someone know Hebrew here?
[02:45] <PriceChild> MasterOfDisaster, in this channel it does.
[02:45] <mapp> nop
[02:45] <brownie17> DeZ_666, what copyright infringement?
[02:45] <Ar-Pharazon> MasterOfDisaster: Ok, so this laptop handled Vista home Premium fine for the week I used it, and the dual boot ubuntu installation I had too. Then I accidentally wiped the HDD, and installed ubuntu again. Now it's kinda sluggish with even the most basic tasks such as right clicking, changing windows, hell even moving the cursor to another line in netbeans.
[02:45] <Ubuntu> I'm the only dude form isreal?
[02:45] <frost0> jrib, i am reading it...but it tells you more about it rather than how to use it..
[02:45] <DeZ_666> on aim, silly.
[02:45] <PriceChild> !offtopic
[02:45] <Seta-San> can someone help me directly?
[02:45] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:45] <AndrewB> Ubuntu: that is off-topic here..
[02:45] <PriceChild> MasterOfDisaster, DeZ_666 to #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish to continue this discussion
[02:46] <Esteth> How can i make a window overlap my gnome-panel?
[02:46] <raynerd> Guys, I`m trying to slightly edit a live CD all I want to do it totally remove the "install" function from the CD. I`m using it in schools and don`t want the kids to accidently install it. I have been told to run the CD live, delete the install desktop icon and menu install item, copy a new image of the CD and then convert to iso, burn from their. I can run the live CD and delete icons, but how do you copy an image of the CD and
[02:46] <raynerd> convert to iso? help appreciated.
[02:46] <Ar-Pharazon> MasterOfDsaster: I have 1 GB of RAM, 200 at most is used out of that, 2 GB of swap is empty, yet ubuntu still keeps reading from HD all the time.
[02:46] <Jowi> !hebrew
[02:46] <ubotu>         :
[02:46] <jrib> !he  | Ubuntu
[02:46] <ubotu> /join #ubuntu-il
[02:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu: please see above
[02:46] <jc-denton> wow
[02:46] <jc-denton> it works
[02:46] <Ubuntu> !he | ubuntu
[02:46] <Ubuntu> ?
[02:46] <jc-denton> cool
[02:46] <croSmiley> how can i run a command using cron with root privileges?
[02:46] <jrib> Ubuntu: read what ubotu said
[02:46] <PriceChild> Ubuntu, /join #ubuntu-il
[02:46] <Ubuntu> Wtf!? How i can do it?
[02:46] <drama1981> anybody know much about networking? i have a windows box and a linux box that i want to be able to move/share files/folerds between. no router just a crossover cable. anybody know how to do this. i use ubuntu studio 7.04 and winxp
[02:46] <AndrewB> !hebrew > Ubuntu
[02:46] <frost0> jrib, so i type screen to open up a "virtual window" then i run my commands and exit...then to pull it back up i use the screen -r .....correct ?
[02:46] <jc-denton> predaeus: sensors wants to load kernel modules and things
[02:46] <jc-denton> i don't need this
[02:46] <jrib> croSmiley: put it in root's crontab
[02:47] <Ar-Pharazon> MasterOfDsaster: There's about 0.3 to 2 second delay for most operations, and it may not sound like a lot but when everything happens half a second late it gets kind of annoying.
[02:47] <jc-denton> i just want to know the cpu temperature
[02:47] <jrib> frost0: exactly
[02:47] <MasterOfDisaster> PriceChild: ok - I'll be shut up - but note that this is IMHO a rather stupid course of action, better push the application not to be named into the repo...
[02:47] <Ubuntu> Great in Empty
[02:47] <PriceChild> jc-denton, sensors aren't accurate
[02:47] <Ubuntu> *is
[02:47] <frost0> jrib, cool
[02:47] <jc-denton> what to use then
[02:47] <MasterOfDisaster> PriceChild: or link to non-canonical ones.
[02:47] <Ar-Pharazon> MasterOfDsaster: Plus boot takes over a minute, I'm not sure why. I used to boot in 20 seconds, even with this installation about 3 days ago.
[02:47] <jc-denton> i use hddtemp for the hd
[02:47] <Ubuntu> What you have with Jirb!?
[02:47] <jc-denton> what for the cpu?
[02:47] <croSmiley> jrib: you are right! thanks a lot
[02:47] <PriceChild> jc-denton, why do you want ot?
[02:47] <PriceChild> !offtopic > MasterOfDisaster
[02:47] <frost0> jrib, also if you don't mind another question...have you ever heard of xpde?
[02:47] <DeZ_666> Can anyone help me with grub and ubuntu?
[02:47] <Ubuntu> yup what the problem?
[02:47] <jc-denton> PriceChild: knowing the temperature of the cpu
[02:48] <brownie17> !ask | DeZ_666
[02:48] <ubotu> DeZ_666: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:48] <DeZ_666> -.-
[02:48] <jrib> frost0: heard of it, looked at it, concluded it would be a pain
[02:48] <Ubuntu> ok -_-
[02:48] <raynerd> I realise that was long question, if anyone can help me edit a live CD for educational perposes, i`d greatly appreciate it! I want to introduce my students to open source and linux.
[02:48] <Ar-Pharazon> MasterOfDsaster: So maybe I've accidentally enabled some super economical memory use feature or slowed my computer down somehow? I'm really quite confused.
[02:48] <DeZ_666> that was my question
[02:48] <PriceChild> jc-denton, but why? Because the actual readouts of sensors in it aren't really accurate... they can show trends or extremes etc. but that's about it
[02:48] <Ubuntu> grub is not my the best thing i know i try to help
[02:48] <raynerd> please pm if you can help with a simple live cd edit.
[02:48] <frost0> jrib, i'm just trying to make linux look and feel like a windows box for a relative who is struggling with migrating :(
[02:48] <jc-denton> PriceChild: to see if it's ok
[02:48] <Seta-San> hey. can someone help me?
[02:48] <MasterOfDisaster> Ar-Pharazon: verify that DMA is enabled (hdparm -I /dev/hdX as root)
[02:48] <DeZ_666> i didnt ask 'if i ask for someone to help me will they help me'
[02:48] <brownie17> raynerd, you're a teacher or a student trying to bypass filters and play games? :P
[02:49] <MasterOfDisaster> Ar-Pharazon: are you using a custom kernel?
[02:49] <jc-denton> PriceChild: i know that they are not accurate
[02:49] <chaad> DeZ_666, lol
[02:49] <DeZ_666> :/
[02:49] <jc-denton> cpuinfo says nothing about the temp
[02:49] <raynerd> no, i am most defo a teacher! honest. I just want to delete the install option off a live CD
[02:49] <Esteth> How do i make a window overlap my gnome-pannel? i want the window decorations off the top of the screen, so i get the "application area" just touching the top of the monitor
[02:49] <Ubuntu> -_-
[02:49] <Ubuntu> yo
[02:49] <raynerd> nothing even potentially harmful if i was a student.
[02:49] <akf3478> Ar-Pharazon: hard disk DMA, or grapics acceleration
[02:49] <MasterOfDisaster> PriceChild: got it, I will shut my trap.
[02:49] <Ar-Pharazon> MasterOfDisaster: If I have no idea that means no, right?
[02:50] <brownie17> raynerd, :P i was just kidding. i don't know how to help you. good luck finding out and thankyou for making the internet world a better place by teaching children that windows isn't the be all and end all
[02:50] <Slart> is there a way to find out which drive my computer is booting from? (I mean where my mbr is located.. not the system drive)
[02:50] <DeZ_666> Ok so i originally had grub on my sda1
[02:50] <MasterOfDisaster> Ar-Pharazon: join me in a query?
[02:50] <DeZ_666> and when i installed ubuntu
[02:50] <PriceChild> jc-denton, If they aren't ok then it'll shut down. sudo apt-get install lm-sensors, then run sensors-detect as sudo, and finally run "sensors" to see
[02:50] <jrib> frost0: I think GNOME looks similar enough (you have windows and a menu to open your programs).  It's probably a bad idea to make them *look* the same same since they are still different.  I would just try to help him through the differences.  The only one I can think of taht might be confusing to a new user is package management
[02:50] <DeZ_666> it auto-installed grub to sda3
[02:50] <DeZ_666> and now i moved grub back to sda1
[02:50] <jc-denton> PriceChild: sensors-detect found some things
[02:51] <jc-denton> but sensors then sayd No sensors found!
[02:51] <frost0> jrib, if i were to try xpde is it easy to revert back to kde?
[02:51] <DeZ_666> but with the same grub info as was in sda3's install of grub
[02:51] <frost0> jrib, or choose which interface at kdm?
[02:51] <DeZ_666> ubuntu wont boot on the sda1's grub
[02:51] <jc-denton> can't i see that somewhere in proc
[02:51] <jrib> frost0: i never successfully installed it
[02:51] <Ar-Pharazon> MasterOfDisaster: How do I find out if I am?
[02:51] <DeZ_666> because of a certain flag
[02:51] <jc-denton> w/o this sensors crap
[02:51] <Esteth> Frost0: You could remove the top gnome-pannel and take all the stuff to the bottom. Install an XP-ish metacity theme, and an icon pack
[02:51] <croSmiley> jrib: if i put it in roots crontab will it run when im not logged as root?
[02:51] <raynerd> brownie17: many thanks...hey I am 24 and been forced Windows for 14 years! I finally discovered open source and linux this holiday and want to show the kids asapo!
[02:51] <DeZ_666> can anyone help me with this?
[02:51] <jrib> croSmiley: yep
[02:51] <wibble> raynard: a quick google found this: http://www.asylumnation.com/blogs/amerikanjunkie/post-2775.html
[02:51] <PriceChild> jc-denton, not that I know of.
[02:52] <raynerd> I just need help as I cant afford to see them install "accedently" ubuntu over windows, I`d get killed!
[02:52] <jc-denton> hrmm
[02:52] <brownie17> raynerd, i'm 17 and i've been using linux for about 2 years. sooo much better
[02:52] <frost0> Esteth, uh i have kde......i  guess i'm stuck..
[02:52] <DeZ_666> Anyone bother reading what i said ;)
[02:52] <Stefan_> Hi all!
[02:52] <DeZ_666> Hello
[02:52] <PriceChild> DeZ_666, hello there
[02:52] <wibble> raynerd: a quick google found this : http://www.asylumnation.com/blogs/amerikanjunkie/post-2775.html
[02:53] <raynerd> brownie17: well yes, i`m getting that way. Although it is different, but then i`m having to teach myself
[02:53] <PriceChild> DeZ_666, do you have a partition marked as bootable?
[02:53] <Esteth> frost0: No matter, KDE is more of a windows-like environment anyway. I'm sure kde-look.org has themes for it, and you can change the size of the bottom bar, as far as i know
[02:53] <MasterOfDisaster> Ar-Pharazon: open a terminal, and type 'sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep DMA'<ENTER>, then enter your password.
[02:53] <DeZ_666> Yes? sda1?
[02:53] <DeZ_666> of course
[02:53] <Ubuntu> some one can help me?
[02:53] <PriceChild> DeZ_666, so could you explain the problem?
[02:53] <PriceChild> Ubuntu, ask your question.
[02:53] <MasterOfDisaster> Ar-Pharazon: or hda, whatever your HDD is.
[02:53] <Ubuntu> i have ova551 camera and i can't install it
[02:53] <DeZ_666> So, when i try booting to ubuntu with the regular flags on the grub entry
[02:53] <Ubuntu> someone?
[02:53] <DeZ_666> it will say 'file not found'
[02:53] <Ubuntu> i have ova551 camera and i can't install it
[02:53] <Ubuntu> someone?
[02:54] <DeZ_666> but theres one flag i remove, and it works fine
[02:54] <jrib> Ubuntu: is it a digital camera or webcam?
[02:54] <DeZ_666> lemme find the flag..
[02:54] <MasterOfDisaster> Ar-Pharazon: if you get a line like this: "DMA: sdma0 sdma1 sdma2 mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5", DMA is enabled.
[02:54] <Ar-Pharazon> MasterOfDisaster:  Here's the output: DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5
[02:54] <raynerd> wibble: thanks but i`ve been trying this for days and now really need someone who has done it to guide me through the process.
[02:54] <jc-denton> if the temperature of the hd is rather low, can i conclude then that the cpu temperature is also low
[02:54] <Ubuntu> webcam
[02:54] <jc-denton> ?
[02:54] <jrib> !webcam > Ubuntu (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:54] <DeZ_666> Here it is
[02:54] <PriceChild> jc-denton, no
[02:54] <DeZ_666> if i remove 'splash' in the grub entry
[02:54] <DeZ_666> it boots fine
[02:54] <DeZ_666> but with it, it will say 'file not found'
[02:54] <MasterOfDisaster> Ar-Pharazon: excellent. Is the computer in question a laptop?
[02:54] <DeZ_666> and return me to grub
[02:54] <Ar-Pharazon> MasterofDisaster: Yes.
[02:55] <Ar-Pharazon> MasterofDisaster: Hp dv2000.
[02:55] <Stefan_> I installed apache,php,mysql and so on - but i have an nooby question :> where can i find the htdocs dir where i have to input all files that i want to see on my localhost? :D
[02:55] <syntax_> hi
[02:55] <Ar-Pharazon> MasterofDisaster: I have an nvidia card if it's relevant.
[02:55] <DeZ_666> in the apache folder
[02:55] <syntax_> I just install ubuntu:)
[02:55] <DeZ_666> :>
[02:55] <harris> hi can anyone help me set up apache on ubuntu 7.04 server ?
[02:55] <Stefan_> Welcome @syntax ^
[02:55] <syntax_> it better then fedora
[02:55] <jrib> !apache > harris (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:56] <jc-denton> harris: apt-get instal apache2
[02:56] <akf3478> Ar-Pharazon: MasterOfDisaster: check the nvidia graphics driver is installed, could be lack of graphics acceleration
[02:56] <MasterOfDisaster> Ar-Pharazon: perhaps you enabled some kind of powersaving behaviour in your BIOS/with a HP provided application in Vista per accident?
[02:56] <syntax_> Does anyone know what the package name to gvim?
[02:56] <Stefan_> @DeZ_666 directly in the dir named apache2 ?!?!?!
[02:56] <MasterOfDisaster> akf3478: wouldn't explain the overall poor performance
[02:56] <croSmiley> if im logged as root, can i run a command as a user?
[02:56] <jrib> Stefan_: /var/www ?
[02:56] <DeZ_666> Stefan_: You can always go to Places->Seach
[02:56] <harris> jc-denton, i installed it, i just can't get it to find the page i put in local host
[02:56] <jrib> croSmiley: su -c
[02:57] <Ar-Pharazon> MasterofDisaster: If I did then the setting somehow survived the whole partition table being wiped.
[02:57] <syntax_> if i am righ tit is call Vim-x11
[02:57] <jrib> syntax_: vim-full will get you it
[02:57] <Stefan_> When i search for "htdocs" no results.. :-( @jrib where can i find /var/www? Can you explain it from /home/ out? ^^ iam completely new to linux.
[02:57] <Ar-Pharazon> akf3478: I have an "nvidia accelerated graphics driver" that is in use.
[02:57] <syntax_> thanks
[02:58] <MasterOfDisaster> Ar-Pharazon: might have, some applications from the vendors are able to modify bios settings.
[02:58] <akf3478> Ar-Pharazon: ok, also check there is a swap partition and its size
[02:58] <DeZ_666> Stefan_: places->computer->filesystem->var
[02:58] <DeZ_666> i believe
[02:59] <DeZ_666> jesus @_@
[02:59] <Stefan_> Ahhh! Thanks!!! I searched hours - never thought it would be there lol!!! Thanks 1000 times! :D
[02:59] <jrib> Stefan_: /var/www is the folder "www" inside the folder "var" inside the folder /
[02:59] <Stormx2> Where?!
[02:59] <Ar-Pharazon> MasterofDisaster: I don't remember changing anything besides maybe standby time or something in Vista. The laptop does make the screen dimmer (and other things I suppose) when it's unplugged.
[02:59] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i access kde wizard again?
[02:59] <DeZ_666> Stefan_: Welcome ^O^ I am a linux nub as well
[02:59] <jrib> Stefan_: everything starts from /
[02:59] <Stefan_> Love you all ^
[02:59] <Ar-Pharazon> akf3478: I have 2 GB swap partition, 0 bytes of it used.
[02:59] <west`> what is the command to install openssh?
[02:59] <syntax_> you sure it is vim-full for the fornt-end to vim
[02:59] <jrib> west`: sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[02:59] <jrib> !ssh > west` (see the private message from ubotu)
[03:00] <nomen> server irc.spnet.net
[03:00] <jrib> syntax_: vim-full will give you gvim
[03:00] <Ubuntu> in need to install ov511
[03:00] <syntax_> Sorry i new
[03:00] <MasterOfDisaster> Ar-Pharazon: sorry, that's the only thing I can think of if you have not been tampering with your Ubuntu installation, since you terminated vista.
[03:00] <Ubuntu> in need to install ov511
[03:00] <DeZ_666> Im gonna install another distro and go to bed ^O^
[03:00] <MasterOfDisaster> Ar-Pharazon: Is your power supply plugged in?
[03:00] <jrib> syntax_: take a look at the description with: apt-cache show vim-full
[03:00] <Pirate_Hunter> how do i access kde wizard again?
[03:00] <frost0> jrib, i found a tutorial on how to install xpde on ubuntu....but, will i be able to choose between kde and xpde on the login screen?
[03:01] <frost0> jrib, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xpde
[03:01] <DeZ_666> Crap
[03:01] <DeZ_666> wheres gparted again
[03:01] <Stormx2> !ohmy | DeZ_666
[03:01] <ubotu> DeZ_666: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:01] <Ar-Pharazon> MasterofDisaster: Yes. Would recompiling synaptic, installing-reinstalling netbeans and the jdk or mucking around with my theme's gtkrc file constitute tampering?
[03:01] <DeZ_666> in ubuntu
[03:01] <jrib> frost0: no idea what xpde does.  You might need to create a .desktop file for xpde in /usr/share/xsessions/
[03:01] <DeZ_666> Stormx2: whatd i say?
[03:01] <Stormx2> DeZ_666: Uh... open a terminal and run "gparted"?
[03:01] <Stormx2> DeZ_666: <DeZ_666> Crap
[03:01] <DeZ_666> ..
[03:01] <DeZ_666> oh no..
[03:01] <MasterOfDisaster> Ar-Pharazon: guess not.
[03:01] <frost0> jrib, if you take a look at the short tutorial...it says nothing about that :(

[03:02] <jrib> frost0: the script seems to create it
[03:02] <frost0> jrib, but my only concern is switching between the two
[03:02] <MasterOfDisaster> Ar-Pharazon: verify that your power supply is plugged in and working, and check your power savings BIOS settings. Apart from that, I'm clueless, sorry.
[03:02] <frost0> jrib, if that is possible i'm going to try it :)
[03:03] <frost0> jrib, maybe they would try it..
[03:03] <syntax_> i try that and it not working.
[03:03] <sindile_> how do you enable more than two workspaces
[03:03] <ingvar> hi everybody
[03:03] <MasterOfDisaster> Ar-Pharazon: you do not use a custom compiled kernel, right?
[03:03] <frost0> jrib, i'm going for it :)
[03:03] <jrib> sindile_: right click on the workspace switcher applet and go to "preferences"
[03:03] <frost0> jrib, what have i got to lose ? :)
[03:04] <Ar-Pharazon> MasterofDisaster: So HPs power saving thing... Things is, when I had dual boot I accidentally booted into the recovery partition, which went into a setup wizard and asked me to plug the computer in. I clicked cancel, only the next time I tried to boot it didn't, and when I ran the live cd it showed all partitions were deleted.
[03:04] <frost0> jrib, don't answer that question..
[03:04] <Ar-Pharazon> MasterofDisaster: I don't think so, no.
[03:04] <drama1981> could Ar-Pharazon prob be due to cpu freq scaling?
[03:04] <Ar-Pharazon> drama1981: I suspect it might.
[03:04] <CompJunki> UBUNTU IS THE BES
[03:04] <CompJunki> T
[03:04] <MasterOfDisaster> Ar-Pharazon: perhaps it reset something to default setting which killed performance...
[03:05] <Ar-Pharazon> drama1981: It's on "ondemand"
[03:05] <MasterOfDisaster> Ar-Pharazon: definitly check your bios settings.
[03:05] <syntax_> How do i chang emy color in my term?
[03:05] <Ar-Pharazon> MasterofDisaster: Ok then, I'll check the bios settings in a while if there's nothing else I can do for now
[03:05] <jrib> syntax_: right click -> edit current profile
[03:05] <drama1981> that wouldnt be it then. ondemand causes little if any performance hit. its powersave that kills it
[03:05] <syntax_> thanks
[03:05] <Spalenza> Good personal day, ja I configured the samba and this perfectly functioning, but it has a command line that nao functions, will be that it has alguem that could help me
[03:05] <MasterOfDisaster> Ar-Pharazon: nothing I can think of, no
[03:05] <jrib> syntax_: or do you want to change the prompt color?
[03:06] <Ar-Pharazon> MasterofDisaster: Ok, I'll go restart and see what I can find.
[03:06] <A[D] minS> Seveas: would you please check out http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36032/
[03:06] <MasterOfDisaster> Spalenza: come again please?
[03:06] <Slart> is there a way to find out which drive my computer is booting from? (I mean where my mbr is located.. not the system drive)
[03:06] <frost0> jrib, i think i got it working..
[03:06] <akf3478> Ar-Pharazon: try running "top" in a terminal window and checking if any process is using a high PU
[03:07] <frost0> jrib, thx for your help.....
[03:07] <MasterOfDisaster> Slart: bios
[03:07] <akf3478> Ar-Pharazon: CPU sorry
[03:07] <jrib> frost0: cool, np
[03:07] <syntax_> this linux rocks
[03:07] <A[D] minS> seems Seveas idling so please can anyone check :  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36032/
[03:07] <penba> hi, i'm having some problems with fetchmail. It seems so connect fine to gmail, unless there are new emails. Then, it says it cant connect to localhost and exits with status 10
[03:07] <jrib> A[D] minS: tried 'sudo mkdir -p /etc/postfix'?
[03:07] <Slart> MasterOfDisaster: nothing in say, grub or similar?
[03:07] <MasterOfDisaster> penba: how are you connecting to gmail?
[03:08] <sindile_> jrib: workspace switcher applet only has these two options: show only current workspace and show workspace in -- rows
[03:08] <jrib> sindile_: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:08] <A[D] minS> jrib: same error after creating this folder
[03:08] <karranas> hopefully quick question.... using the partition manager on the install cd allows me to shrink a ntfs partition, can i do the reverse also? without hurting my ubuntu install?
[03:08] <MasterOfDisaster> Slart: why? grub is in your MBR, so it will be loaded from there? BIOS determines which drive to boot.
[03:09] <MasterOfDisaster> penba: you know they provide POP access now?
[03:09] <penba> MasterOfDisaster: what do you mean? I am using fetchmail through POP
[03:09] <sindile_> jrib: Gutsy with desktop effects enabled
[03:09] <syntax_> this more fun then redhat lol
[03:09] <penba> MasterOfDisaster: yeah, thats whay I am using
[03:09] <jrib> A[D] minS: did you delete the postfix stuff manually without removing the package manager?
[03:09] <jrib> !gutsy | sindile_
[03:09] <ubotu> sindile_: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[03:09] <Slart> MasterOfDisaster: I'm on my way to wipe one of my hard drives.. I just want to be sure I'm not wiping the mbr when I do it (although I could create a new one)
[03:09] <akf3478> Ar-Pharazon: wtf? why did you recompile synaptic?
[03:09] <DeZ_666> MasterOfDisaster: ive had troubles with grub and bios
[03:09] <DeZ_666> :/
[03:09] <syntax_> how do i search with apt-get?
[03:10] <jrib> !apt > syntax_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[03:10] <syntax_> ok
[03:10] <A[D] minS> syntax_ apt-get search package-name
[03:10] <crolle17> i use ubtunu as hostsystem for running vmware-server which contains windowsXP as guestssystem. my problem is that the guestssystem (windows XP) doesn't recognize the audio-hardware. i also heard that linux locks the audio-hardware for own use. is that true? and how to allow the guestsystem to use the audio-hardware too?
[03:10] <penba> penba: mutt can fetch emails just fine using POP, too, but then I have to open mutt everytime I want to check my inbox, instead of just checking xbiff/xlassie
[03:10] <guerby> hi, how to get the list of dependencies of a .deb from the command line?
[03:10] <MasterOfDisaster> Slart: wipe away, if you have a ubuntu livecd at your disposal
[03:10] <jrib> crolle17: audio works fine in my virtualbox guest so "not true", but I don't know about vmware audio with xp guest
[03:10] <Slart> MasterOfDisaster: well.. I have 3 or so.. so I should be ok.
[03:11] <MasterOfDisaster> penba: post your .fetchmailrc, strip the password first of course.
[03:11] <drama1981> crolle17 disable all system sounds in ubuntu once
[03:11] <karranas> anyone? is it possible to grow a ntfs partition with something like gparted with a decent chance of NOT destroying my ext2 filesystem.... i know it works rather well the one direction.... just not sure about the other.
[03:12] <epko> epko
[03:12] <drama1981> crolle17 vmware says the device is busy or not accessable right?
[03:12] <penba> MasterOfDisaster: http://pastebin.com/m539d9659
[03:12] <crolle17> drama1981, no vmware says nothing about audio (unfortunately)
[03:13] <jrib> guerby: dpkg -f
[03:13] <Ar-Pharazon> MasterofDisaster: Hi again, I checked but nothing.
[03:13] <crolle17> drama1981, the guestsystem just doesn't find the audio-hardware (although ubuntu plays nice)
[03:13] <lezard> coucou
[03:13] <Ar-Pharazon> MasterofDisaster: My options were f10 for setup and f11 for system recovery.
[03:13] <kofany> Hi i have a compaq laptop with GeForce GO 6150 and when kubuntu cd is started i have black screen :S
[03:13] <thomas__> hi
[03:13] <anandanbu> Is there any way to hear a live commentary in BBC as it asks for the windows media player or real player plugin
[03:13] <drama1981> crolle17 umm im not sure then. mine always said /dev/dsp is unconnectable. i had to disable all sounds in ubuntu and switch to oss
[03:14] <thomas__> how do i check the presence of a file from shellscript?
[03:14] <Ar-Pharazon> MasterofDisaster:the bios setup had date and time, passwords, boot order and an HDD test which was estimated to take 78 minutes.
[03:14] <penba> MasterOfDisaster: and this http://pastebin.com/m22a12035
[03:14] <crolle17> drama1981, how to enable the audio sounds in ubuntu?
[03:14] <Ar-Pharazon> MasterofDisaster: f11 either did nothing, or booted to grub.
[03:14] <crolle17> disable
[03:14] <TwinX> karranas=>  do you have ntfsprogs installed?
[03:14] <jrib> thomas__: try #bash or see the "advanced bash scripting howto" section on testing
[03:14] <drama1981> system preferences sounds
[03:14] <karranas> twinx: yes
[03:15] <TwinX> karranas=>  type in terminal ntfsresize and check out the options
[03:15] <drama1981> also switch the mixer to oss
[03:15] <Ar-Pharazon> MasterofDisaster: By the way, when booting, the progress bar moves to the 45% point in about 4 seconds, stays there for a minute, then goes the rest of the way in about 5 seconds. The HDD light doesn't flash at all during the minute.
[03:15] <kofany>  I have a compaq laptop with GeForce GO 6150 and when kubuntu cd is started i have black screen :S
[03:15] <guerby> jrib, thx, what is the control field to use?
[03:16] <crolle17> drama1981, you mean SigmaTel OOS Mixer?
[03:16] <jrib> guerby: Depends
[03:16] <karranas> twinx: well, i know it can be done... but i have mixed feelings about the chances of destroying a perfectly working ubuntu install.... but i will check that out.
[03:16] <thomas__> thx
[03:16] <croSmiley> should cron be restarted after updating crontab?
[03:16] <guerby> jrib, thx
[03:16] <TwinX> karranas=>  it saya : Resize an NTFS volume non-destructively, safely move any data if needed.  lets hope its telling the truth :P
[03:16] <drama1981> well the default is auuto config. you should have the otion to use alsa,oss as well as a few others. choose anything that says oss
[03:17] <TwinX> saya -says*
[03:17] <jrib> croSmiley: no, did you use 'crontab -e' to edit?
[03:17] <tatters> Why is it that my laptop worked out the box in Dapper, yet with each new release my hardware breaks to a point now in feisty where my touchpad will not work and all 3 wireless cards have decided they too wont work rt2500 pci,pmcia and usb
[03:17] <techno> [16:16:59]  * Parts: sindile_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>("Leaving")
[03:17] <techno> how to make this
[03:17] <beni> how can I burn .cue files so my large 70 minutes .mp3 files is divided into several tracks??
[03:17] <croSmiley> jrib: no i use crontab -r and then crontab foo.cron
[03:18] <drama1981> crolle17 you will have to restart vmware after the change
[03:18] <Badpenguin86> I installed Avant WIndow Navigator with the files from the net, and not the repository, how would I remove it?
[03:18] <karranas> twinx: thats the key point right there.... i know of lots of stories where it didn't go so well, the one direction i didn't mind (who cares about a easily reinstalled win part) but messing with my linux partition has me worried
[03:18] <crolle17> drama1981, did so
[03:18] <anandanbu> I have downloaded the .bin file of Real Player 10 from their website for firefox and now how do i install it
[03:18] <Ar-Pharazon> Are there any diagnostics I can run to see what ubuntu is doing when booting or when I'm waiting for a folder's right click menu to pop up?
[03:18] <drama1981> i dont think a full system restart is needed though just vmware
[03:18] <croSmiley> jrib: it just doesnt wannt to run at specified time
[03:19] <jrib> croSmiley: should be working then, put something dumb like "touch /home/croSmiley/cron_works" or something
[03:19] <karranas> twinx: guess in the end i will just have to bite the bullet and try (*crosses fingers), thanks for the advice
[03:19] <croSmiley> jrib: i put rhythmbox --play
[03:19] <TwinX> karranas=>  lol good luck buddy
[03:19] <jrib> croSmiley: did you set the DISPLAY environment variable?
[03:19] <Badpenguin86> How do you remove a program that was installed from a tar file?
[03:20] <akf3478> Ar-Pharazon: use "top" first
[03:20] <croSmiley> jrib: nope :/
[03:20] <jrib> croSmiley: you need to
[03:20] <croSmiley> jrib: why? and how do i do that?
[03:20] <TwinX> Seveas=>  stop spamming m8 :)
[03:20] <timewriter> why
[03:20] <Seveas> TwinX, :)
[03:20] <TwinX> hehehe
[03:20] <jrib> Badpenguin86: you can try 'sudo make uninstall' from the same place you ran 'make install', but it is not guaranteed to exist.  In the future, consider using checkinstall or better yet, using the repositories
[03:20] <croSmiley> jrib: or just how? :)
[03:20] <jrib> !checkinstall > Badpenguin86 (see the private message from ubotu)
[03:21] <timewriter> what do i need to install on Ubuntu 7.0 , that allows me to manually modify the cpu scalling frequency ?
[03:21] <crolle17> drama1981, yeah did so, but still no audio-hardware able to find on guestsystem. i'm getting crazy.
[03:21] <Badpenguin86> thanks
[03:21] <drama1981> crolle17 what os you using in the vm? winxp?
[03:21] <Ar-Pharazon> akf3478: The process manager? Everything looks fine to me. The CPU's at about 1% occasionally jumping to 5%.
[03:21] <jrib> croSmiley: now, do 'echo $DISPLAY', then in your crontab add "DISPLAY=output_you_got_before" right before your command on the same line, or export it earlier in crontab
[03:21] <crolle17> drama1981, yes
[03:22] <drama1981> crolle17 go to the device manager in xp and see if any audio hardware is even listed
[03:22] <tipfoo> Hello everyone! I'm using Feisty, and very like the Glossy theme, but only the color of scrollbar (dark gray) is ugly for me. Is there a way to change it. Thanks!
[03:22] <harris_d> hi, can someone help me find out why nothing loads when i go to localhost ?
[03:22] <Seveas> TwinX, spamming done -- rest of the bans are staying where they are
[03:22] <Ar-Pharazon> akf3478: of my 1GB memory about 360mb is full.
[03:22] <TwinX> timewriter=>  cpudyn or  cpufrequtils
[03:22] <timewriter> thank you
[03:22] <TwinX> Seveas=>   cool :p
[03:23] <akf3478> Ar-Pharazon: ok, that sounds good. Could you please list all the symptoms you see of the slowness you are talking about (except booting)?
[03:23] <boubbin> !sound
[03:23] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:23] <tatters> I removed dapper n installed feisty and my touchpad on laptop cannot drag windows no more :( they should call new releases downgrades
[03:23] <jrib> harris_d: is apache running?
[03:24] <syntax_> Where is my vim-full that i download that is the gui for vim?
[03:24] <harris_d> jrib, i am not sure... i don't know how to check
[03:24] <timewriter> cpudyn wants to remove powernowd
[03:24] <Stormx2> syntax_: Why would you want a GUI for vim?
[03:24] <jrib> harris_d: ps -ef | grep apache      list it?
[03:24] <syntax_> i like gvim
[03:24] <TwinX> timewriter=>  try the other one
[03:24] <Seveas> Stormx2, gnome-terminal is a good gui for vim :)
[03:24] <crolle17> drama1981, listed are: Audiocodecs, Legacy-Audiodriver, Legacy-Videorecorder, MediaControlDevice, Videocodecs and my installed driver for soundblaster (which is corrupted, because windows doesn't find audio-hardware)
[03:24] <Ar-Pharazon> akf3478: Right clicking something on the desktop makes the laptop read from HDD for about 2 seconds, even after that it still takes from half a second to one to display the same right click menu. Switching between windows is slow, again 05 to 2 seconds, sometimes I can actually see the window being drawn.
[03:24] <Stormx2> Seveas: xD exactly :)
[03:24] <timewriter> i did
[03:24] <jrib> syntax_: what do you mean?  You just tell a package manager to install it, you don't download it manually
[03:25] <timewriter> still cant let me modify
[03:25] <timewriter> i mean i cant see the options
[03:25] <timewriter> when i click on the icon on gnome
[03:25] <Ar-Pharazon> When I edit code in netbeans and go to a different line (it highlights the current line) there's about a 0.7 seconds delay as well.
[03:25] <tipfoo> Hi everyone! I'm using Feisty, and very like the Glossy theme, but only the color of scrollbar (dark gray) is ugly for me. Is there a way to change it. Thanks!
[03:26] <Stormx2> How do I grep for multiple things at once? Like string 1 OR string2
[03:26] <syntax_> be right back i need to get my driver for my pc card:)
[03:26] <croSmiley> jrib: i got ":0.0", should i put all that or just 0?
[03:26] <Ar-Pharazon> akf3478: Also when I click the menus on top ofthe screen they can take anywhere from 1 to 4 seconds to finish loading the icons.
[03:26] <jrib> Stormx2: egrep 'foo|bar'    should work
[03:26] <TwinX> timewriter=>  i'll try to find out on google
[03:26] <Seta-San> who are the experts in here?
[03:26] <jrib> !ask | Seta-San
[03:26] <ubotu> Seta-San: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:26] <harris_d> jrib, it says "www-data 11864 11856  0 23:11 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start"
[03:26] <timewriter> thanks
[03:26] <penba> MasterOfDisaster: problem solved with the help of procmail. Thankf for your attention, though
[03:26] <jrib> croSmiley: all is fine, but maybe :0  works too
[03:26] <drama1981> crolle17 look in the v, window is there a speaker in the lower corner (not in xp but the vm window itself)
[03:26] <jrib> harris_d: what happens when you visit '<IP_ADDRESS>' in your browser?
[03:27] <Ar-Pharazon> akf3478: Again, the submenus themselves appear after about a second... I'd expect that at least to be instantaneous.
[03:27] <crolle17> drama1981, no
[03:27] <Seta-San> do you know if ubuntu has any problems with evga 7800gt video cards or foxconn motherboards
[03:27] <timewriter> maybe i need to restart
[03:27] <crolle17> drama1981, i looked into the vmware right bottom corner...
[03:27] <Seta-San> i can't get x to load with any driver
[03:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !wireless | Jack_Sparrow
[03:27] <TwinX> timewriter=>  check this out: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/11/04/enabling-cpu-frequency-scaling/
[03:27] <Seta-San> not the nv driver or nvidia or vesa
[03:28] <Stormx2> jrib: Cheers.
[03:28] <timewriter> ok
[03:28] <Ar-Pharazon> akf3478: By the way, the reason I mention netbeans is that my 8 month old windows xp installation on a much older desktop pc which takes several minutes to start up alone runs the program much faster.
[03:28] <crolle17> drama1981, there are only harddisk1, cdrom1, floppy1, ethernet1
[03:28] <Seta-San> this is the sytem as it is running now
[03:28] <Seta-San> OS: Windows Vista Home Edition 6.0 (Build #6000) CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+, 2.01 GHz, 512KB Video: NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT (1440x900x32bpp 60Hz) Sound: Speakers (Creative SB Audigy 2 ZS (WDM)) Memory: Used: 1009/2047MB Uptime: 3d 18h 39m 47s HD: Free: 228.05 GB/421.87 GB Connection: NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller @ 100.0 Mbps (Rec: 996.28MB Sent: 89.17MB)
[03:28] <timewriter> i need to reboot
[03:28] <drama1981> crolle17 i think its a vmware issue then. it may not support your audio card at all. usually there should be a speaker with an x through it if ubuntu is using it otherwise there should be no x. but no speaker at all makes me think its vmware related
[03:28] <crolle17> drama1981, and floppy1 is corrupted (because i have no floppy)
[03:29] <croSmiley> jrib: i have this: "28 15 * * * DISPLAY=:0 rhytmbox --play" and still doesnt work
[03:29] <DuClare> does anybody know how to fix this error (while trying to start opera): opera: Module initialization failure. (-2036)
[03:29] <croSmiley> jrib: also tried with 0.0
[03:29] <DuClare> it seems to work fire when being run as root
[03:29] <jrib> croSmiley: you spelled rhythmbox incorrectly
[03:29] <harris_d> jrib, it just keeps loading.. but nothing appears
[03:29] <croSmiley> jrib: jesus
[03:29] <crolle17> drama1981, is it possible to configure vmware?
[03:29] <syntax_> what is the driver for madwifi-ng on ubuntu?
[03:29] <Seta-San> no one has any idea on this system for getting linux to load?
[03:30] <croSmiley> jrib: i just don't have luck
[03:30] <drama1981> there are configuration options. im not sure exactly where they are though since i only have vmware on my linux box and im not on that box at the moment
[03:30] <gravemind> why does my cd drive burn faster than it reads?
[03:30] <gravemind> it's really annoying
[03:31] <jrib> Seta-San: you could use the alternate install cd to install and then troubleshoot after. Try searching bugs.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org for similar experiences though
[03:31] <brownie17> gravemind, because you touch yourself at night
[03:31] <CompJunki> i can't find 7zip, i just installed :(
[03:31] <CompJunki> so i can unrar my files
[03:31] <jrib> !unrar > CompJunki (see the private message from ubotu)
[03:31] <cyberphaz> there is no graphic gui for 7zip under linux
[03:31] <CompJunki> k
[03:31] <cyberphaz> only commandline
[03:32] <jrib> harris_d: not really sure... you have a firewall or any iptables rules?
[03:32] <Ar-Pharazon> akf3478: Does anything sound familiar at all?
[03:32] <akf3478> hmm, might be worth double-checking that the video driver is set up correctly. look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and check there's a line: Driver  "nvidia"
[03:32] <dzb> I was thinking, is it possible to write a script to shutdown gnome temporarily? e.g. if I start my Win Game in a new X environment and want all unnessecary processes to hybernate
[03:32] <ompaul> gravemind, reading is done with confirms, and depends on the quality of the disk, writing is done as fast as possible, however for high quality burning I tend to make it 8x or lower but thats me
[03:32] <CompJunki> !info unrar-free
[03:32] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[03:32] <harris_d> jrib, i'm not sure... thanks for your help, i think i will leave it for a while
[03:32] <jrib> CompJunki: use unrar from multiverse, unrar-free is virtually useless
[03:32] <akf3478> Ar-Pharazon: last last line was for you
[03:32] <Ar-Pharazon> akf3478: ok
[03:32] <CompJunki> i thought 7zip could do it ?
[03:32] <martyna> hello ;p !!
[03:33] <rk013> SUP DAWG
[03:33] <jrib> CompJunki: unrar will do it and it will integrate with the gui
[03:33] <rk013> o.O
[03:33] <drama1981> i think 7zip and unrar can be integrated into the standard file archive prog though
[03:33] <croSmiley> jrib: works, but rhythmbox has crashed
[03:33] <jrib> harris_d: k, gl
[03:33] <gravemind> ompaul: I see. so to make cdrdao and sound juicer go faster I need to see if they're doing extra error protection
[03:34] <Ar-Pharazon> akf3478: Here: http://pastebin.com/m28ea164a
[03:35] <croSmiley> jrib: funny, when i run rhythmbox --play from console works fine, but in cron it quits unexpectedly
[03:35] <Eviltronic> I'm on Feisty and i have installed restricted ATI drivers for my Radeon 9550. Now i have problem with refresh rate. I have all Resolutions but refresh rate on higher resolutions is 60 hz. My monitor can have resolutions high as 120 hz.
[03:35] <Seveas> croSmiley, that's quite normal. rhythmbox needs a gui
[03:35] <Seveas> and cron doesn't give it any
[03:36] <jrib> croSmiley: maybe use rhythmbox-client?
[03:36] <CompJunki> erm
[03:36] <ompaul> gravemind, if you do that you will get errors, if that is what you want then go that way
[03:36] <CompJunki> i can't find unrar-free i just installed it
[03:36] <TwinX> Ar-Pharazon=>  get rid of line 96 and  comment out last 3 lines
[03:36] <croSmiley> jrib: giving it a try..
[03:36] <gravemind> ompaul: nobody wants errors
[03:36] <Seveas> CompJunki, unrar-free is the package name, the app itself is unrar
[03:36] <drama1981> CompJunki i take that back 7zip will only integrate with fileroller on single archives no multi volume
[03:37] <mc2ts> i need some sound card advise...no midi sounds
[03:37] <gravemind> ompaul: this is just going painfully slowly. I don't think the drive is being used right
[03:37] <ompaul> gravemind, it mostly depends on the quality of the disk you are trying to rip, consider a disk that is in a car on a regular basis being pulled right and left and vibrated all over the place it will have a lot of scratches
[03:37] <drama1981> unrar integrates with fileroller so you dont launch it as a seperate app
[03:37] <CompJunki> Seveas:  well i cant find that either in the GUI
[03:37] <Seveas> CompJunki, ah, gui
[03:37] <CompJunki> yea
[03:38] <gravemind> ompaul: so I can benchmark with a brand new factory made cd?
[03:38] <drama1981> CompJunki the archive manager should open rar files after unrar is installed
[03:38] <CompJunki> ok
[03:38] <CompJunki> thanks
[03:38] <Seta-San> anyone know when the new version of ubuntu might be on it's way?
[03:38] <drama1981> np
[03:38] <jrib> Seta-San: around october 18
[03:38] <Seta-San> we've been on feisty dawn for like 6 months
[03:38] <drama1981> fileroller the archive manager is just a front end
[03:38] <Seta-San> sweet
[03:39] <Seta-San> still a ways away
[03:39] <croSmiley> jrib: it should come with rhythmbox or?
[03:39] <gravemind> ompaul: the thing that worries me is on the imac, cdrdao imports really fast, but on this computer it imports like three seconds of audio per second
[03:39] <CompJunki> drama1981:  nope it wont open it.
[03:39] <Ar-Pharazon> twinx: Restart?
[03:39] <jrib> croSmiley: yep, belongs to rhythmbox package here on feisty
[03:39] <ompaul> gravemind, that is like you got something busted, like the drive
[03:39] <TwinX> CTRL ALT BCKSPACE Ar-Pharazon
[03:39] <selinuxium> Hi all, I tries to update to Gutsy using    gksu 'update-manager -d' but it does not see the development files. Is this correct?
[03:39] <gravemind> ompaul: it's fast in windows
[03:40] <selinuxium> HO ompaul
[03:40] <drama1981> CompJunki is it a multi volume archive? also what type
[03:40] <orko3001_> anyone here?
[03:40] <ompaul> gravemind, well all I know is what I have said, I don't have such speed issues
[03:40] <jrib> selinuxium: #ubuntu+1 for help with gutsy
[03:40] <gravemind> ok
[03:40] <selinuxium> jrib: k Cheers
[03:40] <croSmiley> jrib: ah, im on dapper, and dont have one :(
[03:40] <ompaul> selinuxium, boo
[03:40] <dzb> I was thinking, is it possible to write a script to shutdown gnome temporarily? e.g. if I start my Win Game in a new X environment and want all unnessecary processes to hybernate
[03:41] <gravemind> anybody else know what could be slowing down my cd drive?
[03:41] <Seta-San> holy shit
[03:41] <CompJunki> drama1981:  its a *rar type file thats all i know.
[03:41] <Seta-San> i'm getting 1.8MB/sec download
[03:41] <CompJunki> *.rar
[03:41] <nour> uhm, hey ppl, jrib .. i couldn't get virtualbox 1.5.0 , i get this msg: "could not find kernel  image:linux" .. what am i missing!!
[03:41] <soundray> dzb: it's unnecessary. The Linux kernel takes care of that.
[03:41] <PriceChild> !ohmy | Seta-San
[03:41] <ubotu> Seta-San: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:41] <Seta-San> sorry
[03:42] <Seta-San> i've never seen speed like that before
[03:42] <gravemind> ompaul: cdrdao says it "Found 9177 Q sub-channels with CRC errors." maybe that's making it slow
[03:42] <Seta-San> off of any server
[03:42] <orko3001_> hi i got a problem with photoshop in wine. It starts but I get this: Unable to continue because of a hardware or system error. Sorry but this error is unrecoverable.
[03:42] <Seta-San> including MS
[03:42] <jrib> nour: how are you trying to isntall it?  what do you do to get that error exactly?
[03:42] <d3x7r0> orko3001_, I believe the latest versions of photoshop are unable to be run on wine. The last one that works is version 6 or 7 if I'm not mistaken :S
[03:43] <rbs-tito> Does anybody know how I would go about printing something in reverse, for one of those iron-on transfers?
[03:43] <orko3001_> i right click on photoshop.exe and choose open with wine
[03:43] <dooglus> rbs-tito: reverse the image, then print as normal
[03:43] <rbs-tito> dooglus: It's a PDF
[03:43] <orko3001_> i did the same to install it
[03:43] <soundray> rbs-tito: most printer drivers allow you to print a mirror image
[03:43] <rbs-tito> soundray: HPLIP ?
[03:44] <orko3001_> i am useing 7
[03:44] <soundray> rbs-tito: don't know. Check for yourself - try printing it from evince and go through the print options.
[03:44] <drama1981> CompJunki did you install unrar and rar both or just unrar?
[03:44] <orko3001_> its wierd as it says hardware error
[03:44] <orko3001_> but after it has loaded up
[03:44] <CompJunki> drama1981:  only unrar
[03:44] <rbs-tito> soundray: I can't seem to find anything in evince
[03:44] <soundray> rbs-tito: have you tried the print dialog?
[03:44] <jrib> CompJunki: did you install unrar or unrar-free?
[03:45] <drama1981> sudo apt-get install rar
[03:45] <CompJunki> oh
[03:45] <drama1981> i guess you need both rar and unrar