[08:25] <vdo> ...
[08:25] <seeker> I meant where do they speak it?
[08:25] <vdo> catalonia
[08:25] <seeker> never heard of it before ...
[08:25] <vdo> u know barcelona?
[08:25] <seeker> yes
[08:25] <vdo> barcelona is in catalonia
[08:25] <seeker> oh.
[08:25] <vdo> not in spain
[08:25] <vdo> heheh
[08:26] <djm62> :)
[08:26] <seeker> didn't know that
[08:26] <stianh> what?
[08:26] <djm62> I think gnome has l10n for it
[08:26] <stianh> barcelona is in spain
[08:26] <dov> is`n CAtalonia part of spain ?
[08:26] <vdo> yes we'r a country withot state
[08:26] <Jeezis> dov: yes
[08:26] <vdo> something like scotland
[08:26] <djm62> read Orwell...
[08:27] <vdo> hehe
[08:27] <djm62> vdo: not exactly...but scots like me have a lot of sympathy for the situation
[08:27] <Fulg> pcmcia_socket0: unsupported voltage key.
[08:27] <Jeezis> is there a way to check the temperature of my laptop in ubuntu
[08:27] <vdo> not exactly
[08:27] <stianh> hey, so, i need to change something in alot of textfiles, is there a neato command I can use?
[08:27] <seeker> Jeeves_, what temp? cpu tmp?
[08:28] <vdo> debian has a translation for
[08:28] <goldfish> Jeezis: lm-sensors
[08:28] <Jeezis> seeker: you mean me? yeah cpu temp
[08:28] <seeker> jeezis not jeeves
[08:28] <WhiteRabbit> Jeeves_, lm-sensors
[08:28] <seeker> damm nick autocomplete
[08:28] <Jeezis> i have a laptop and it feels quite warm after being on for about 4 days straight
[08:28] <seeker> there is lm sensors
[08:28] <seeker> acpi
[08:29] <\sh> any ubuntu apache2 users here?
[08:29] <Fulg> pcmcia_socket0: unsupported voltage key.
[08:29] <WhiteRabbit> Jeezis, laptops are gonna be warm
[08:29] <djm62> Jeezis: I suspect that after four days it's reached equilibrium
[08:29] <Jeezis> seeker: ok, so will lm-sensors will give me the cpu temp?
[08:30] <goldfish> yep
[08:30] <seeker> basically yes - but you will want to find a software that does it for you using lm sensors
[08:30] <seeker> using it yourself might be a bit difficult
[08:30] <djm62> xsensors?
[08:30] <seeker> just a sec
[08:30] <goldfish> gdesklets is compatible with it i think?
[08:31] <thenuke> any ideas what small httpd to use which supports php and writes an access.log
[08:31] <Jeezis> is there an app that i can grab that will give me the readout of my acpi sensor?
[08:31] <thenuke> thttpd does not support php by default, but writes access.log, thy supports php but does not log..
[08:31] <djm62> Jeezis: xsensors will do it...also gdesklets apparently
[08:31] <seeker> yes  try googling it. there should be lots of prog already out there
[08:31] <Jeezis> ok :) thanks for the help
[08:31] <WhiteRabbit> Jeezis, http://download.freshmeat.net/screenshots/29030.jpg is this what your after?
[08:32] <seeker> acpi gives you a standered link to the lm sensors
[08:32] <seeker> unfortunatly that standard link is very useful for ordinary users
[08:32] <onno> When I want to play a .wmv movie wmvdmod.dll can't find!
[08:32] <onno> how do I solve this?
[08:32] <seeker> try one of the progs recommended here or google it
[08:32] <Fulg> pcmcia_socket0: unsupported voltage key.
[08:33] <onno> sounds play's but no picture
[08:33] <seeker> *should be - isn't very useful
[08:33] <Jeezis> WhiteRabbit: yup, thanks :)
[08:33] <rdekoeijer> HI everybody
[08:33] <rdekoeijer> I (L) Ubuntu :)
[08:33] <goldfish> I <3 UBUNTU
[08:33] <goldfish> :)
[08:34] <Choubaka> :)
[08:34] <b0ol> what icq client do you prefer?
[08:34] <b0ol> i hate gaim :x
[08:34] <Jeezis> hmmm, now what if xsensors is blank
[08:34] <Jeezis> i have it running, but it doesnt have anything in the window
[08:34] <Seibol> yeah gaim sucks
[08:34] <rdekoeijer> gaim
[08:35] <Seibol> should be gaym
[08:35] <goldfish> haha
[08:35] <b0ol> yep
[08:35] <b0ol> gaym
[08:35] <b0ol> :D
[08:35] <seeker> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&q=laptop+cpu+temp+monitoring++linux&spell=1
[08:35] <vdo> worse is kopete
[08:35] <vdo> xD
[08:35] <djm62> Seibol: gay people are generally interoperable with most software :-/
[08:35] <asynic> b0ol: what do you hate about gaim?  (I'm not protecting it, just wondering what you're looking for in a client)
[08:35] <vdo> woh
[08:35] <seeker> Jeezis,  see if there is anything there
[08:35] <Seibol> kopete sucks too
[08:35] <seeker> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&q=laptop+cpu+temp+monitoring++linux&spell=1
[08:36] <b0ol> im looking for a trillian 2.0 pro similar client
[08:36] <rdekoeijer> what do you prefer then?
[08:36] <b0ol> i can't see the post script
[08:36] <b0ol> etc
[08:36] <Seibol> anyone running Ubuntu on a laptop
[08:36] <b0ol> trillian 2.0 on windows was perfekt for my purposes
[08:36] <asynic> b0ol: uh, yeah... be more specific.  I've never used trillian pro.
[08:36] <b0ol> k sry
[08:36] <zAo^> b0ol: use kopete
[08:36] <cens0red> hmmm
[08:36] <djm62> Seibol: I am
[08:36] <rdekoeijer> but on linux?
[08:36] <cens0red> Resolving us.archive.ubuntu.com... <IP_ADDRESS> Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com[<IP_ADDRESS>] :80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[08:36] <vdo> kopete sux
[08:36] <b0ol> in trillian you could see what you ever typed before to a client
[08:36] <b0ol> hm...
[08:37] <tpm> Seibol: Latitude D600
[08:37] <Seibol> djm62: what kind of success have you had with power managment features?
[08:37] <vdo> and is 4 kubuntu x)
[08:37] <b0ol> you could individually manage your contacts
[08:37] <b0ol> etc
[08:37] <b0ol> :)
[08:37] <b0ol> what about licq?
[08:37] <b0ol> is it goot?
[08:37] <rdekoeijer> is trillian for linux?
[08:37] <b0ol> good
[08:37] <djm62> Seibol: hp-compaq laptops seem to be linux friendly...suspend to ram, suspend to disk, battery management
[08:37] <b0ol> no trillian = windows
[08:37] <oneifreak> b0ol: you can get history in gaim, etc..
[08:37] <rdekoeijer> what do you prefer on linux then?
[08:37] <rdekoeijer> on gnome
[08:37] <b0ol> but gaym simply suxx :) i hate it sry :)
[08:37] <Jeezis> seeker: how would i do that?
[08:37] <b0ol> rdekoeijer that's what im asking for
[08:37] <zAo^> kopete...
[08:37] <seeker> err. do what?
[08:37] <asynic> b0ol: [12:36:51]  b0ol: in trillian you could see what you ever typed before to a client  <-- what does this mean?
[08:37] <rdekoeijer> oke srr
[08:37] <Seibol> the only friggin feature I want is for the computer to suspend to Ram when I close the LCD
[08:38] <Jeezis> seeker: i have xsensors running, but its window isnt showing anything
[08:38] <Seibol> I have a IBM Thinkpad T20 on the way, hope I can get it working
[08:38] <asynic> Seibol: ubuntu runs fab on my t23
[08:38] <djm62> Seibol: hmmm...I don't have that enabled, but then I didn't want it: have you googled?
[08:38] <Seibol> I have a sager with it installed now, and it won't shut down
[08:38] <Seibol> not getting much
[08:38] <seeker> never used xsensors. try one of the other programs maybe?
[08:38] <Seibol> what is the difference between suspend to ram and suspend to disk?
[08:38] <b0ol> asynic :
[08:38] <Seibol> except the obvious
[08:38] <b0ol> if you chatted to a friend last day
[08:39] <seeker> I use the direct approacg, but you don't want to do that (trust me you don't)
[08:39] <b0ol> and you open the window TODAY
[08:39] <b0ol> you can see what you typed last day
[08:39] <b0ol> :)
[08:39] <Jeezis> seeker: any other suggestions for programs?
[08:39] <asynic> b0ol: oh - that's cool.  How many lines of history do you get?
[08:39] <rdekoeijer> what about amsn?
[08:39] <b0ol> you can set
[08:39] <b0ol> i had 500 kb
[08:39] <b0ol> ):
[08:39] <b0ol> :)
[08:39] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> anyone used lm_sensors ?
[08:39] <b0ol> thats muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch
[08:39] <b0ol> <--
[08:39] <b0ol> JuNkPhreak|UnIx  me
[08:39] <seeker> Jeezis, like I said. I don't use any programs I go direct. but you don't want to do that unless you have to! (I have to :(    )
[08:40] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> in ubuntu
[08:40] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> ?
[08:40] <asynic> b0ol: psi does something like that.... but it's a jabber client.  You can use ICQ through jabber.
[08:40] <darkaudit> JuNkPhreak|UnIx: using it now... pity the gdesklets for lm_sensors are so old :(
[08:40] <b0ol> :/
[08:40] <Jeezis> seeker: ah, i see
[08:40] <b0ol> hm...
[08:40] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> i use the cli
[08:40] <b0ol> but that's not the only thing i want
[08:40] <seeker> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&q=laptop+cpu+temp+monitoring++linux&spell=1
[08:40] <b0ol> i'd like tirllian 2.0pro for linux best :>
[08:40] <seeker> Jeezis, maybe something from that link?
[08:40] <djm62> b0ol: I have that on gaim...it's worth spending time configuring it: there are many options
[08:40] <seeker> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&q=laptop+cpu+temp+monitoring++linux&spell=1
[08:40] <b0ol> :/
[08:40] <b0ol> where?
[08:40] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> pipe it to sysinfo.pl
[08:40] <asynic> b0ol:  bet you could run trillian with wine
[08:40] <Jeezis> seeker: i shall check, thanks for the help :)
[08:41] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> why use trillian ?
[08:41] <djm62> b0ol: Tools->Preferences
[08:41] <b0ol> i think so too but im new to linux and i don't even know how wine works :/
[08:41] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> gaim , kopete  etc...
[08:41] <|QuaD-> b0ol: don't use wine
[08:42] <Burgundavia> b0ol, what program do you need?
[08:42] <b0ol> trillian :>
[08:42] <tsume_> no
[08:42] <asynic> b0ol: everyone who uses linux has to give something up if they come from windows. Usually the benifits totally outweigh the cons.
[08:42] <Burgundavia> b0ol, hmm, gaim?
[08:42] <tsume_> use gaim
[08:42] <rdekoeijer> gaim is good
[08:42] <b0ol> i know
[08:42] <|QuaD-> gaim is good
[08:42] <tsume_> gaim is the best ;)
[08:42] <b0ol> i use gaim and i don't like it
[08:42] <Burgundavia> b0ol, use native linux apps, you will thank yourself in the end
[08:42] <|QuaD-> b0ol: why?
[08:42] <Burgundavia> try gossip
[08:42] <tsume_> Burgundavia: you could.. roll your own ;)
[08:43] <goldfish> LOL
[08:43] <asynic> gossip is horrible.
[08:43] <Burgundavia> tsume_, gah
[08:43] <goldfish> make one :)
[08:43] <b0ol> trillian > * > gaim
[08:43] <tsume_> oops
[08:43] <b0ol> i just loved trillian
[08:43] <tsume_> Burgundavia: sorry :)
[08:43] <b0ol> you could individualise it very good!
[08:43] <tsume_> b0ol: you could.. roll your own ;)
[08:43] <goldfish> b0ol: you could try running trillian in wine.
[08:43] <nakata> kopete works for me
[08:43] <b0ol> hm.........
[08:43] <JuNkPhreak|UnIx> kopete works well
[08:43] <|QuaD-> b0ol: i like trillian too, but any feature that will work on trillian through wine is available with gaim
[08:43] <tsume_> except the fact that Qt is bloated
[08:43] <server> ya, and gaim is way better, too
[08:44] <b0ol> no i searched all options
[08:44] <server> you can script for it
[08:44] <b0ol> and i didn't find it
[08:44] <server> shit..countless bens
[08:44] <server> why is my nick server...
[08:44] <server> bah!
[08:44] <tsume_> server: `rm -rf /` :P
[08:44] <neighborlee> i've just ( to be sure) replaces my sources.list with one from ubuntuguide website but i'm still getting no hits from a search criteria of 'sun' ...yes I want to install the java runtime but it seems its been removed or changed ???
[08:44] <rempresent> alright, guys, I have a huge question
[08:44] <b0ol> as i have my ubuntu cd back i'll try licq
[08:44] <b0ol> :)
[08:44] <|QuaD-> b0ol: what do you need?
[08:45] <rempresent> this is a windows-type question
[08:45] <tritium> neighborlee, Method 2: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java
[08:45] <b0ol> rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[08:45] <rempresent> i needed to switch becaseu I want to plya WoW
[08:45] <b0ol> damn :) i search by my self );
[08:45] <b0ol> i need cd to install licq via synaptic
[08:45] <tsume_> b0ol: no
[08:45] <tritium> neighborlee, really, backports are not advisable.  That part of ubuntuguide is not good advice.
[08:45] <|QuaD-> b0ol: what do you need gaim to do that it isn't
[08:45] <rempresent> anyway, I am getting shutdowns like no tomorrow
[08:45] <tsume_> b0ol: you can delete the cd refs from sources.list
[08:46] <tsume_> b0ol: it will then download from the server
[08:46] <rempresent> so, I was wondering how hard it is to install an ati radeon card with ubuntu
[08:46] <neighborlee> tritium, they should consider updating that then
[08:46] <b0ol> he? so i can install tools without needing the cd?
[08:46] <b0ol> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa kewl ;
[08:46] <b0ol> ;)
[08:46] <b0ol> i'll try
[08:46] <neighborlee> tritium, anyway...so this sun package is in backports ?
[08:46] <b0ol> thnx
[08:46] <tsume_> b0ol: just comment the refs out, so if you want them later...
[08:46] <neighborlee> tritium, I mean the sun package listed in the guide
[08:46] <tritium> neighborlee, it is, but I recommend Method 2 from the URL I sent you instead
[08:46] <rempresent> does anyone know how to install a ati radeon card with ubuntu
[08:47] <neighborlee> tritium, ok..I hope they update this soon ( no doubt they haven't had time)
[08:47] <tritium> rempresent, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:47] <tsume_> rempresent: throw the ati out and use nvidia ;)
[08:47] <tritium> neighborlee, it's an unofficial guide, so he provides the advice he wants to.  I doubt he'll change it
[08:47] <b0ol> tsume_
[08:47] <b0ol> how to do that ? :x
[08:47] <seeker> I have a radeon 9700 pro and it works fine
[08:47] <tsume_> b0ol: its in /etc/apt/
[08:47] <b0ol> hm.. sec
[08:47] <rempresent> okay, here is the problem.... i have an nvida card in right now, it is a nvida geforce4 440mx, will that run wow alright, or not
[08:48] <neighborlee> tritium, yeah I saw the unofficial part...trouble is if its wrong advice I dont see the stubborness to change it..;-)..I guess ill  have to get ugly
[08:48] <rempresent> do you run wow at all.
[08:48] <rempresent> ?
[08:48] <Jeezis> ah, xsensors had a segmentation fault
[08:48] <neighborlee> tritium, lol
[08:48] <Jesterace> i run wow on a nvidia FX5500
[08:48] <Jeezis> i'm trying emifreq right now
[08:48] <tritium> neighborlee, it's not wrong.  It's just that using backports makes upgrading to new resleases a pain
[08:48] <rempresent> do you use cedega...
[08:49] <neighborlee> tritium,thats not what I mean
[08:49] <Jesterace> i ran it on cedega
[08:49] <b0ol> its sources.list ? @ tsume_ ?
[08:49] <Jesterace> ran okay
[08:49] <Jesterace> but looked better in win32
[08:49] <neighborlee> tritium, search for this 'sun' java package does not find anything
[08:49] <rempresent> i don't know the nvida cards like i do the ati, is my card going to run the game alright, or not?
[08:49] <gds> hi
[08:49] <b0ol> i found it
[08:49] <b0ol> k
[08:49] <rempresent> just WoW, i have a AMD3000XP, and 1GB ram
[08:49] <Choubaka> Hmm.
[08:49] <b0ol> do i have any advantages if i decomment the other sources?
[08:50] <gds> How  can I set  fonts for gnome 1.x applications?
[08:50] <Choubaka> I wonder if it is be possible to see vesafb-tng integrated to the Ubuntu kernel sources someday.
[08:50] <seeker> b0ol, did you read the ubunbuguide?
[08:50] <mainer> neighborlee: search java or jre
[08:50] <Myrtti> hmmmmm
[08:50] <Myrtti> I google before asking
[08:51] <seeker> b0ol, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/ has most of the stuff you will need
[08:51] <b0ol> seeker  yes i did but not completely i have toooooooooooooooooo less time
[08:51] <b0ol> im just busy with my fu***** school
[08:51] <b0ol> :/
[08:51] <seeker> read    1. How to add extra repositories?
[08:51] <seeker>    2. How to backup/restore downloaded repositories cache?
[08:51] <sig> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[08:53] <onno> I want to install essential packets of mplayer. But where should I install the codecs in Ubuntu
[08:53] <neighborlee> tritium, no go.the package as named on the guide site is simply not in the repositories or its been changed
[08:53] <tritium> onno, you can install them from Marillat's repo
[08:54] <tritium> neighborlee, you're still trying to use the one from backports?
[08:54] <onno> tritium, not all
[08:54] <neighborlee> tritium, however if indeed its in backports as I believe you said...then there is problem as backports for me I think was not resolving
[08:54] <Plexys> how do i edit the menu on GNOME?
[08:54] <zAo^> onno: comment Marillats repo in /etc/apt/source.lst
[08:54] <sig> Plexys: ubuntuguide.org once again
[08:54] <onno> because when I want to play wma it complains about a dll not found
[08:54] <Choubaka> Hmm.
[08:54] <seeker> Plexys, as far as I know you can't
[08:54] <sig> Plexys: http://ubuntuguide.org/#menu-editor
[08:55] <tritium> neighborlee, it's in backports hoary-extra I believe.  As I said, though, it's not advisable anyway
[08:55] <Choubaka> I wonder how complete the Finnish translation of Ubuntu is.
[08:55] <zAo^> onno http://www.ubuntuguide.org/
[08:55] <sig> seeker: once again.... ubuntuguide.org
[08:55] <seeker> sorry - I meant can't manually
[08:55] <gds> How do I set fonts in applications linked to gtk 1.x?
[08:55] <tritium> sig, ubuntuguide is not always good advice (e.g. jre)
[08:55] <onno> I got marlat repo , but these arn't there
[08:55] <seeker> you can use the menu edditor tool though
[08:55] <Plexys> i found this but i'm afraid i'll be installing rubbish: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=867
[08:55] <seeker> it's under application->system tools
[08:55] <sig> tritium: sure is, works flawlessly for me
[08:55] <bretzel> trying to compile E17 and got  this error at the link statge: ../../src/lib/.libs/libevas.so: undefined reference to `XF86VidModeQueryVersion' that means, headers are there but no libs, or developer's error...
[08:55] <sig> jre works nicely
[08:55] <AcidWolf> i backed up some of my files that i had on Os X before i installed ubuntu on my powerbook but i cant seem to get ubuntu to read my backups
[08:55] <AcidWolf> any ideas
[08:55] <tritium> sig, yes, but using backports is not advisable
[08:56] <b2s> sig, try not to sound so unhappy when answering questions.  I mean, if you don't want to answer questions, stay out of the ubuntu help chat eh?
[08:56] <sig> who says you have to use backports
[08:56] <sig> I'm not
[08:56] <ompaul> AcidWolf, emm what format are the backups in?
[08:56] <tritium> sig, jre as listed on ubuntuguide comes from a backports repo
[08:56] <AcidWolf> thats the thing i cant even view the files on the disk
[08:56] <sig> b2s: well use your brain and search the net first, ubuntuguide.org has most answers that are asked inhere
[08:56] <ompaul> AcidWolf, what extention have they got?
[08:56] <slappy17> LOL
[08:57] <sig> tritium: well, I did a dist-upgrade
[08:57] <tritium> sig, please don't insult people.  Remember the Code of Conduct
[08:57] <slappy17> half the time , these questions can be anwsered by docs..no, all the timre, really
[08:57] <sig> tritium: I'm not insulting anyone
[08:57] <AcidWolf> i know what you mean ompaul but what im saying is i dont even get that far
[08:57] <AcidWolf> i cant access the cd
[08:57] <b2s> sig: this is a help channel.  it is reasonable to ask questions, including those found on ubuntu guide.  it isn't an official guide or anything you know
[08:57] <i3dmaster> anyone knows how to get a better compress ratio when making cloop filesystem?
[08:57] <tritium> sig, see your last comment to b2s
[08:57] <ompaul> AcidWolf, that reads like ooch
[08:57] <sig> b2s: yeah your point?
[08:58] <slappy17> LOL...
[08:58] <zAo^> i3dmaster: tried google?
[08:58] <ompaul> AcidWolf, did you check them before you installed the happiest operating system of them all?
[08:58] <AcidWolf> oh ok
[08:58] <slappy17> hey sig..do you have better things to do then help people for free? just curious..
[08:58] <tritium> sig, where does apt-cache policy sun-j2re1.5 tell you it's from?
[08:58] <Matyy> I created a new user that I want to have sudo right, I added him to the sudo group, but that doesn't work - what do I have to do?
[08:58] <sig> sladen: no
[08:58] <sig> :P
[08:58] <i3dmaster> zAo^: yeap.
[08:58] <AcidWolf> ompaul yes i accessed them through Osx and they worked
[08:59] <neighborlee> sig, no offense or anything as i'm a neighborly kinda of guy and all but..your comment 'use your brain' could easily be recognised as being confrontational....
[08:59] <i3dmaster> zAo^: actually I am not quite understand why most of compress cloop is using blocksize 65536
[08:59] <ompaul> AcidWolf, okay so (A) reinstall os/x and create tarballs / gz archives - and ignore any local "i can back up your data for you" type offers
[08:59] <sig> neighborlee: oh well, if you can't read then you can't help yourself
[09:00] <AcidWolf> im not blowing away an entire system
[09:00] <AcidWolf> O_o
[09:00] <ompaul> AcidWolf, okay so (B) find someone with os/x and get them out onto a drive and off like I suggest
[09:00] <AcidWolf> ok that sounds like a better idea
[09:00] <neighborlee> sig, ic no reason to continue in that line of conversation...'we here' at #ubuntu 'help' people...regardless whether we think they are smart or not we help them..its the 'official' ubuntu way...
[09:00] <ompaul> AcidWolf, well both are reasonable but will cost some amount of time
[09:01] <AcidWolf> or i could get a Mac emulator
[09:01] <ompaul> AcidWolf, there is that
[09:01] <AcidWolf> aha
[09:01] <sig> neighborlee: I did help if you would look up to each answer, I pointed them to where the exact answer could be found. No reason on answering it here and taking up space when they can view it in easy format on that site.
[09:01] <ompaul> AcidWolf, but tbh will it do the same file format?
[09:01] <sig> I've helped lots of people help themselves
[09:01] <gds> Anybody tried Openoffice 2.0? Is it stable, isn't it?
[09:02] <ompaul> AcidWolf, now you have learnt the badness of closed formats grasshopper :)
[09:02] <AcidWolf> yes indeedy
[09:02] <zAo^> gds; here it is
[09:02] <tritium> gds, tried it, but had some problems (word docs with tables, for example)
[09:02] <ompaul> gds it was run for two days as a pinned application on a 64bit machine and it was okay
[09:03] <meowzoer> hi my X isnt booting right, can you guys help me? ive tried the starter guide and the forum and cant find anything
[09:03] <neighborlee> meowzoer, what do you mean its not booting right
[09:03] <goldfish> meowzoer: Is it starting at all?
[09:03] <gds> ok, I'll try it
[09:03] <meowzoer> i get 'server is already active for display 0' when i type startx
[09:03] <goldfish> hmm
[09:04] <goldfish> you could do a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[09:04] <sig> meowzoer: you need to point it at your wm
[09:04] <tritium> meowzoer, gdm is probably running
[09:04] <sig> like gnome or kde
[09:04] <gds> tritium, in openoffice 1.x have you got the same problem with tables?
[09:04] <meowzoer> tritium so i should do a killall on gdm?
[09:04] <tritium> gds, no
[09:04] <zAo^> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:04] <tritium> meowzoer, as zAo^ suggests
[09:04] <thundrcleeze> If I wanted to reinstall everything and keep all the installed packages I would in synaptic go to file save markings, then click on save full state, right?
[09:04] <Plexys> how do i use menu-editor to remove items from the menu? when i press delete it doesn't do it
[09:04] <gds> ok tritium
[09:05] <neighborlee> meowzoer, it sounds like it tried to start gnome but failed..so yes startx would say that I"d imagine
[09:05] <meowzoer> oh, that work
[09:05] <meowzoer> but
[09:05] <neighborlee> Plexys, i think that is bug  with editor..might also depend on which editor your using
[09:05] <meowzoer> now my screen turns itself off
[09:05] <Plexys> neighborlee, i'm using the one from the ubuntuguide
[09:05] <neighborlee> Plexys, if  the one in guide then its prob. just a current bug
[09:05] <tritium> meowzoer, can you inspect /var/log/Xorg.0.log for error messages?
[09:05] <zAo^> meowzoer: right sync?
[09:05] <neighborlee> Plexys, ie: I do remember hearing about deletion issues
[09:06] <Plexys> neighboorlee: ok, is there any 'good' version of a menu editor then?
[09:06] <meowzoer> zAo^ ive never confed the screen so maybe
[09:06] <meowzoer> how do you change the sync?
[09:06] <neighborlee> Plexys, i'd reccommend browsing through the menu editor forum as means to verify this being fixed
[09:06] <dantheman> i'm working in windows right now, and it won't let me format my external drive as anything but NTFS...i want FAT32 so i can share it with ubuntu
[09:06] <zAo^> meowzoer: what screen are you on?
[09:06] <neighborlee> Plexys, well ..I had to reinstall ( had bad ugrade with RC) so i've not yet tried it sorry..
[09:06] <dantheman> or is there some way i can format it in ubuntu to be shareable with windows?
[09:07] <goldfish> hey guys, i'm having trouble, i install a .wma plugin for xmms, and now i have sound trouble, i'm using xfce and i have a volume applet thing but i cant use it, and when i run alsamixer, it exits when i press a key, i have since unistalled the plugin, but the problem is still there :/
[09:07] <Plexys> neighboorlee: ok, thank you for your help
[09:07] <goldfish> Any ideas?
[09:07] <neighborlee> Plexys, np..and good luck with that
[09:07] <meowzoer> zAo^ do you mean the brand or whitch F1 F2 etc?
[09:07] <chicken_man> take a look at my C++ guide http://chickenman.zapto.org/apache2-default/pro/cpp.php
[09:07] <zAo^> meowzoer: brand + type
[09:07] <Doom-Hammer> how do install .deb packages I've downloaded?
[09:07] <dantheman> dpkg -i package.deb
[09:08] <Doom-Hammer> thanks, dantheman
[09:08] <goldfish> dantheman: If it is ntfs, you can read it from linux, but not write to it.
[09:08] <dantheman> well, i really need to write to it
[09:08] <goldfish> ah right
[09:08] <neighborlee> yeah i ts a shame firefox can't handle .deb like it does in fedora for rpm
[09:08] <neighborlee> that would be a nice feature ;-)
[09:08] <thundrcleeze> If I wanted to reinstall everything and keep all the installed packages I would in synaptic go to file save markings, then click on save full state, right?  Also, is there an apt command that will do the same?
[09:08] <meowzoer> zAo^ its an old packard bell, CRt
[09:08] <meowzoer> CRT
[09:09] <gds> How can I install captive on ubuntu?
[09:09] <zAo^> you know its vsync and hsync?
[09:09] <meowzoer> no
[09:09] <zAo^> hmm
[09:09] <zAo^> type?
[09:09] <dantheman> so does anybody know how i can get the drive formatted so i can write from both windows xp and linux?
[09:09] <ompaul> gds, what is captive?
[09:09] <meowzoer> its an CRT if you mean that
[09:09] <thundrcleeze> If it's ntfs, you probably don't want that, dan.
[09:09] <zAo^> dantheman: sudo cfdisk /dev/hdX
[09:10] <Doom-Hammer> what do I do if a package has "no installation cantidate"? can I download a .deb for it?
[09:10] <dantheman> well, i've moved everything off of it, so that i could reformat it to something that would work
[09:10] <Doom-Hammer> this application I need requires libsocksd, but I can't apt-get install it, since it "has no installation cantidate"
[09:10] <zAo^> dantheman: mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdX
[09:11] <Doom-Hammer> oh, there's a "download" button right there on the ubuntu package page... duh :P
[09:11] <meowzoer> zAo^ its an crt, if that was what you meant
[09:11] <dantheman> will windows xp still be able to read and write to and from the drive if i do that?
[09:11] <gds> ompaul, I mean captive-ntfs
[09:11] <jkka> dantheman: you nee dto format it as a FAT
[09:11] <chicken_man> Learn C++ quick and easy with my C++ guide part 1 is out NOW downloaded from http://chickenman.zapto.org/apache2-default/pro/cpp.php
[09:11] <zAo^> meowzoer: no. I want every information to search for its vsync/hsync :)
[09:12] <thundrcleeze> chicken_man, how is that relevant?
[09:12] <dantheman> well, i'm in windows, and when i click format, the only option it gives me is NTFS
[09:12] <meowzoer> oh, wait a sec then :)
[09:12] <thundrcleeze> Don't use windows.
[09:12] <nubbe> How do I get soundjuicer to use lame?
[09:12] <Doom-Hammer> dantheman: use another partitioning tool, like the one that comes with Maxtor drive, or Partition Magic
[09:12] <jkka> dantheman: you can format it in linux
[09:12] <dantheman> alright...lemme reboot into ubuntu
[09:12] <zAo^> dantheman: in Win32: go to the sysadmin >> volumes >> format as fat32
[09:12] <chicken_man> thundrcleeze, well some people mite want to learn C++
[09:12] <ompaul> gds ohh, I have no idea what captive-ntfs is - I can talk for hours about ext3, but I guess that is not what you want :-/
[09:13] <thundrcleeze> Yes, but are they asking for it?
[09:13] <meowzoer> zAo^ the model is; packard bell 7480
[09:13] <chicken_man> very much so :)
[09:13] <mike_> ...
[09:13] <ompaul> dantheman, I can only suggest you format it on a box that uses fat32 - XP seems to be lacking interoperability with regard to file systems
[09:13] <zAo^> meowzoer: in Holland the 'type' is the same word as the 'model' :-# sorry
[09:14] <meowzoer> zAo^ oh hehe :D
[09:14] <ompaul> jkka, does using fat mean that you only get to see 2 gig partitions at a time
[09:14] <gds> ompaul, captive-ntfs is a library, it can write and read a ntfs partition
[09:14] <ompaul> gds, ahh
[09:15] <ompaul> gds, let me have a look at at that :)
[09:15] <zAo^> meowzoer: tried to change the default resolution?
[09:15] <Plexys> sigh this menu-editor is evil. how do i reach the directory with all the applications in it that appear in the menu?
[09:15] <meowzoer> zAo^ i have no idea how to even look at the config for the resolution
[09:15] <zAo^> meowzoer: sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:15] <gds> ompaul, it use libraries from windows (ntfs.sys e nto....exe)
[09:15] <chicken_man> my advice is to download my C++ guide at once :D
[09:16] <dantheman> alright, how do i format my external drive as FAT in linux?
[09:16] <zAo^> dantheman: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdaXX
[09:16] <zAo^> dantheman: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdaX that is
[09:16] <gds> zAo^, don't you know an editor more user friendly? :-)
[09:17] <zAo^> gds: sorry; I only use vi :$
[09:17] <thundrcleeze> gds, gedit is very user friendly.
[09:17] <kent> gds: nano is a good alternative,  and gedit aswell.
[09:17] <zAo^> thundrcleeze: his X is not running so... :)
[09:17] <b2s> gds: some people find nano to be relatively use friendly (not as good as gedit)
[09:17] <thundrcleeze> ah, never mind then :)
[09:17] <gds> meowzoer, sudo gedit  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:17] <b2s> heh, so nano it is :)
[09:17] <zAo^> joe is userfriendly
[09:17] <chicken_man> mmmmm gedit :P
[09:18] <meowzoer> zAo^ its set for horiz 30-63 and vert 50-75
[09:18] <meowzoer> what should i change it to?
[09:18] <zAo^> use vi I'd say :) Learn unix/linux
[09:18] <seeker> what does it mean to make a symbolic link?
[09:18] <gds> zAo^, vi's great, but it's very difficult the first time
[09:18] <gds> :-)
[09:18] <zAo^> meowzoer: k. What is the default resolution? (eg. 1280x1024)
[09:19] <goldfish> hmmm
[09:19] <meowzoer> zAo^ 1280x1024 is first
[09:19] <zAo^> gds: I know. I only know about 20 commands, theres lot more :)
[09:19] <seeker> can someone please explain this to me:   Symbolic linking ~/.Skype to a local disk directory solve the nfs lock problem as locks in local disks depends on no services. If you move your profile back to the nfs mount, the problem may show up again.
[09:19] <ompaul> gds after looking at  http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ if I was interested in such a thing I might first try the .tar.gz version after which if it did not work I might try alien on the rpms but any/all of that may cause unusual impacts on your machine
[09:19] <goldfish> I've just noticed, alsamixer isn't working for me anymore, anyway I can fix this ?
[09:19] <zAo^> meowzoer: try to set the default to 800x600 or so
[09:19] <bhna> has anyboddy sucess with extendedPDF and openoffice?
[09:19] <djm62> seeker: what about it?
[09:20] <seeker> I don't understand what it means
[09:20] <seeker> what am I supposed to do?
[09:20] <djm62> seeker: is your $HOME on nfs?
[09:20] <zAo^> can any1 help meowzoer ?? Thanks
[09:20] <seeker> how can I tell ? (whats nfs?)
[09:21] <djm62> seeker: NFS==Network File System
[09:21] <bhna> extendedPDF http://www.jdisoftware.co.uk/pages/epdf-home.php
[09:21] <dantheman> how do i figure out which file in /dev represents my external hard drive?
[09:21] <meowzoer> zAo^ thank you but ill let it be for a while :)
[09:21] <djm62> seeker: it means you don't use your local hard disk, but one on a remote server
[09:21] <seeker> oh, I don't think so. everything is local HD
[09:21] <goldfish> dantheman: should be /dev/sda1
[09:21] <goldfish> dantheman: well thats what mine is
[09:21] <djm62> dantheman: if it's mounted, type "mount" to view all the info for mounted disks
[09:21] <bhna> any tips to extendedPDF
[09:21] <bhna> ?
[09:22] <slappy17> I HATE MY JOB!
[09:22] <djm62> seeker: in that case, I'd guess that that wasn't the solution to your problem
[09:22] <slappy17> sorry, im off topic
[09:22] <djm62> slappy17: #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:22] <slappy17> djm62asldkfja;lskdfj: no crap
[09:22] <seeker> do nfs looks only apply to network drives?
[09:22] <weazle> +
[09:23] <djm62> seeker: what is the symptom?
[09:23] <gds> ok ompaul, I'm not really interested in captive-ntfs... but I'll try it
[09:23] <seeker> http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?t=24245&sid=6aae020e6ea0dd550e3ba96595fc3848
[09:23] <dantheman> okay, i just did mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1
[09:23] <dantheman> and it took like half a second
[09:23] <seeker> I have the same problem
[09:23] <seeker> my skype wount log on
[09:23] <dantheman> did it actually format the drive?
[09:23] <ompaul> gds, if it breaks things in new and interesting ways it will be yours to fix :)
[09:23] <seeker> even though it's IS on line (others see me online , but I can't log on)
[09:24] <ompaul> seeker, now and again it demands you username and password
[09:24] <djm62> seeker: ah...
[09:24] <gds> eh :-)
[09:24] <seeker> it doesn't accept my user name and password, it says login failed immidiatly
[09:24] <djm62> seeker: did skype crash recently?
[09:24] <seeker> without trying
[09:25] <ompaul> seeker, its login is usually very fast
[09:25] <ompaul> seeker, try killall skype first
[09:25] <seeker> but I am logged on. other people can contact me,
[09:25] <djm62> seeker: I hate to ask, but are you SURE about username/pAsSwOrd?
[09:25] <thundrcleeze> Quick question: If I wanted to reinstall everything and keep all the installed packages I would in synaptic go to file save markings, then click on save full state, right?  Also, is there an apt command that will do the same?
[09:25] <seeker> yes
[09:25] <seeker> I asked for a new one , and did copy past to make sure I had no mistakes
[09:26] <seeker> I can log on the skype site with the same name and password
[09:26] <Zugot> i have a 17GB binary file.  Does 'split' work on binary files or should i use shar?
[09:26] <slappy17> 64bit must be nice
[09:26] <seeker> ok , did killall skype
[09:26] <slappy17> Zugot: you have that amd64?
[09:26] <drspin> I reinstalled Hoary yesterday and I must say I'll never do a dist-upgrade again...
[09:26] <drspin> LOL
[09:27] <seeker> am going to try and log on
[09:27] <thundrcleeze> Why's that, drspin?
[09:27] <seeker> it worked!
[09:27] <seeker> thx djm62 !
[09:27] <djm62> you'll be wanting the download fix in a few weeks ;)
[09:27] <Zugot> slappy17: yup
[09:27] <djm62> seeker: I think that's due ompaul
[09:28] <seeker> ompaul?
[09:28] <slappy17> Zugot: splits man says 'lines' in it..i wouldnt trust it for bin
[09:28] <drspin> thundrcleeze: because I spent HOURS getting stuff to work after upgrading... upon reinstall everything just worked (except my DMA settings and few customizations) ;)
[09:28] <Zugot> slappy17: i'm still trying it right now
[09:28] <ompaul>  thundrcleeze, I find your question a little confusing - if I was you I would copy all the stuff from /var/cache/apt/archives/ to a CD then I would reconfigure all partitions the way I wanted
[09:28] <Zugot> i may have to use shar
[09:29] <Zugot> does anyone ask any linux questions anymore or is it all... how do i install my cd burner?   why doesn't hoary work?
[09:29] <ompaul> seeker, the command `killall skype` removes any previous processes with skype attached to them and allows you start afresh
[09:29] <slappy17> lol....well
[09:29] <slappy17> ubuntu targets newbs
[09:29] <thundrcleeze> Aren't those linux questions?
[09:29] <slappy17> might have to go over to #debian
[09:29] <thundrcleeze> :)
[09:29] <navreet> Ubuntu rox
[09:29] <seeker> why didn't rebooting solve the problem?
[09:29] <slappy17> no, they're app questions
[09:29] <heftigrat_> hey all, n e 1 know how to get rid of wine err:  "wine: cannot find 'regedit'" ?
[09:29] <slappy17> rebooting didnt solve it because it isnt win98
[09:30] <navreet> sladen, ?? I've been using linux for years
[09:30] <seeker> well, thanks for solving by problem anyway.
[09:30] <navreet> sladen, I love it...
[09:30] <djm62> seeker: maybe skype is crashing on startup...
[09:30] <Zugot> #debian is a mean awful place
[09:30] <drspin> so I installed lame -- I installed Grip -- for some reason grip tells me that it can't find lame
[09:30] <thundrcleeze> Rebooting worked for me, but I had to reboot 5 times for the fix to work.
[09:30] <slappy17> lol..ya
[09:30] <slappy17> they're jerks
[09:30] <djm62> seeker: so you reboot, and the exact same thing happens
[09:30] <Zugot> plus i'm already in 7 channels
[09:30] <slappy17> but, straight forward
[09:30] <RogueDopple> ha reboot
[09:30] <b0ol> which programm can i use for file sharing?
[09:30] <ompaul> Zugot, so be happy with how does my CD work :)
[09:30] <navreet> sladen, it's targetting people like me too [who don't have to have to edit config files [gentoo] , or have 3 year old distro [debian] )
[09:30] <RogueDopple> this is windows
[09:30] <slappy17> lol, ompaul
[09:30] <seeker>  #debian is a mean awful place   <--- lol
[09:31] <Zugot> ompaul: :P
[09:31] <navreet> slappy17, , I love it...
[09:31] <thundrcleeze> I agree, slappy, they're not newbie friendly.
[09:31] <navreet> slappy17, it's targetting people like me too [who don't have to have to edit config files [gentoo] , or have 3 year old distro [debian] )
[09:31] <pawalls> Zugot, It wasn't always.
[09:31] <Zugot> let me go lurk
[09:31] <neighborlee> has anyone heard about a ubuntu bug as relates to evolution ??
[09:31] <slappy17> i hate that release argument for deb
[09:31] <slappy17> that doesnt work on me
[09:31] <pawalls> Zugot, When I first started using Debian about 4 years ago, there were a lot of helpful people.
[09:31] <thundrcleeze> They're probably just cranky because they're running woody.
[09:31] <pawalls> Since then, the whole channel seems to be full of elitist assholes.
[09:31] <navreet> slappy17, is gdm2 in debian yet?
[09:32] <b0ol> which programm can i use for file sharing?
[09:32] <neighborlee> thundrcleeze, lol
[09:32] <djm62> slappy17: it gets credence when "non-dds should only run stable"
[09:32] <slappy17> ya, it was exciting back then..now they're older and their ass's itch..they're grumpy
[09:32] <sobersabre> evolution question.
[09:32] <navreet> slappy17, it took OVER A YEAR for kde3 to get into debian unstable...
[09:32] <ompaul> thundrcleeze, na, it is the queuing for sarge that is killing them
[09:32] <seeker> b0ol, amul?
[09:32] <djm62> b0ol: limewire is ok if you don't mind java
[09:32] <pawalls> greypanther was always a nice guy however..
[09:32] <slappy17> who cares, why is lvm and raid enabled by default and not SSHD?
[09:32] <sobersabre> how can i delete message ?
[09:32] <b0ol> JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVA *whine*
[09:33] <b0ol> aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[09:33] <navreet> and ubuntu is the first distro where [almost] everything "just worked"
[09:33] <b0ol> :/
[09:33] <b0ol> kk
[09:33] <slappy17> besides, kde is ...well..its just bloated
[09:33] <navreet> b0ol, no java here though [AMD64]  :(
[09:33] <b0ol> seeker  i'm looking for filesharing especially for mp3
[09:33] <b0ol> :)
[09:33] <slappy17> Kapp, Kwipemybutt
[09:33] <neighborlee> slappy17, heh
[09:33] <b0ol> k i search for limewire
[09:33] <sobersabre> anyone knows how to delete ( really ) messages in evolution ?
[09:33] <b0ol> can i find it in synaptic?
[09:33] <navreet> slappy17, yeah, I agree with the kde assessment now, but back when 3.0 came out, it was "t eh shit"
[09:33] <seeker> yes
[09:33] <djm62> sobersabre: really?
[09:33] <slappy17> heh
[09:33] <seeker> if not there
[09:33] <djm62> sobersabre: ctrl-D
[09:33] <neighborlee> slappy17, yeah I dont bother...kde is okay and i applaud ability to use it in ubuntu..but I just use gnome for most of those reasons yes
[09:33] <thundrcleeze> sobersabre, did you try the delete key?    Don't listen to me.
[09:34] <slappy17> ive been addicted to #ubuntu for several days now
[09:34] <slappy17> you guys are great
[09:35] <slappy17> its fun in here and fun to help too when you can
[09:35] <djm62> sobersabre: Actions: Empty Trash or Expunge
[09:35] <navreet> gtg, laters
[09:35] <slappy17> but zugots right, no more app crap
[09:35] <neighborlee> slappy17, helping is kewl ;-)
[09:35] <slappy17> ;)
[09:35] <seeker> its fun in here and fun to help too when you can <--- HERE HERE!
[09:35] <goldfish> sorry could someone running hoary tell me if they have a /dev/mixer ?
[09:35] <gds_> Why there's not argouml in ubuntu?
[09:35] <navreet> file bug reports people!! [They actually fix them fast!]
[09:35] <slappy17> im selective on what i help on... :)
[09:35] <nahum> hello
[09:35] <slappy17> hi
[09:35] <sobersabre> djm62, you don't understand me. evo doesn't fetch already read messages. they are not "deleted" in mutt they're "read"
[09:35] <nahum> somebody could help me?
[09:36] <navreet> crw-rw----  1 root audio 14, 0 2005-05-12 18:04 /dev/mixer
[09:36] <decaf> goldfish: yes, I have
[09:36] <goldfish> damn
[09:36] <thundrcleeze> goldfish, me too
[09:36] <goldfish> mine has gone :)
[09:36] <nahum> I've a problem installing my webcam driver
[09:36] <sobersabre> is there a way of fetching the already read messages with evo ?
[09:36] <thundrcleeze> oh no.
[09:36] <Zugot> argouml isn't in ubuntu cuz......
[09:36] <Zugot> ...
[09:36] <goldfish> thundrcleeze: any idea what package it's in or anything?
[09:36] <Zugot> java isn't in ubuntu
[09:36] <navreet> goldfish, you can try search on packages.debian.org
[09:36] <navreet> gtg, laters
[09:36] <thundrcleeze> No idea.  I'm sure there's a way to find out.
[09:36] <goldfish> ty
[09:38] <ailleantsian> what is the root password for ubuntu?
[09:38] <seeker> there is no root in ubuntu
[09:38] <seeker> you can use sudo
[09:38] <slappy17> sudo
[09:38] <slappy17> hah
[09:38] <thundrcleeze> you have to create your won if you want one.
[09:38] <thundrcleeze> but it's suggested you use sudo
[09:38] <ompaul> ailleantsian, use sudo it just makes more sense
[09:38] <gds_> Can somebody pass me the line for debian sarge?
[09:38] <drspin> navreet
[09:38] <thundrcleeze> *own
[09:38] <seeker> it's the password for the default user you created during the installation
[09:38] <ailleantsian> i am trying ti install a wlan thing and its asking for a username and password
[09:39] <ompaul> gds_, what line?
[09:39] <drspin> navreet: you think my prob is a bug?
[09:39] <mikeco> it would appear that ide-cd doesn't like me dvd burner
[09:39] <pr3vi0uz> where do u get the enterprize distro from ubuntu?
[09:39] <gds_> ompaul, the one for sources.list
[09:39] <ompaul> ailleantsian, you type `sudo command_name+options` and in that terminal you have root for 5 minutes since you typed the last command
[09:40] <sobersabre> which package provides the library: libgtkembedmoz.so ?
[09:40] <sobersabre> i am trying to launch help in evolution... no help ...
[09:40] <seeker> if you need to do a lot of root action you can also type "sudo -s -H" (it's all in the ubuntuguide)
[09:40] <ailleantsian> thankyou
[09:40] <gds_> ompaul, deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
[09:40] <ompaul> gds_,  deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main deb ftp://ftp.X.debian.org/debian/ testing main where X is your nearest location
[09:41] <pr3vi0uz> out of distro i have run this is very basic and easy to understand
[09:41] <nahum> somebody with experience installing webcam drivers?
[09:41] <ompaul> gds_ that one is tainted :)
[09:41] <mikeco> isn't ide-scsi deprecated in 2.6?
[09:41] <gds_> ompaul, you're right... sarge is better
[09:41] <mikeco> ie: not good for burning?
[09:42] <seeker> I would actually like some webcam help as well....
[09:42] <ompaul> gds_ if you want I can msg you one I use on a server
[09:42] <ompaul> for woody
[09:42] <ompaul> hang on this is #ubuntu
[09:42] <gds_> ompaul,  I added "deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free"
[09:42] <seeker> I wrote my webcam manufacturer support, and they answered: " we regret to inform you that we don't support linux"
[09:43] <pr3vi0uz>  eek
[09:43] <gds_> Is it safe to add a debian repository in ubuntu (sarge)?
[09:43] <ompaul> seeker, so write to them that you regret you will be looking for another provider of web cams
[09:43] <chillywilly> doubt it
[09:43] <Abood> hey guys
[09:44] <seeker> ompaul, since they already have my cash, I don't think they will care ... :)
[09:44] <heftigrat_> n e 1 know how to get rid of wine err:  "wine: cannot find 'regedit'" ?
[09:44] <pr3vi0uz>  lol
[09:44] <ompaul> seeker, tell them that anyway
[09:44] <Abood> guys when i wan to mount a Vfat Drive, why when i reboot my  machine i must remount it again, isnt their any command to save the changes ?!
[09:44] <mikeco> put it in fstab
[09:44] <ompaul> seeker, what is it so we can all avoid it
[09:44] <pr3vi0uz>  this livecd mikeco
[09:45] <mikeco> was talking to Abood
[09:45] <seeker> genius videocam web
[09:45] <ompaul> you will have told 526 people that it does not work with linux
[09:45] <ompaul> seeker, thank you
[09:45] <ailleantsian> what does this error mean ?? root@StormDragon:/home/ailleantsian # sudo dpkg -i driverloader_2.27_i386.deb
[09:45] <ailleantsian> dpkg: error processing driverloader_2.27_i386.deb (--install):
[09:45] <ailleantsian>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[09:45] <seeker> the express model is supported in linux (I think) but not my model
[09:46] <Abood> mikeco, sorry dude ?!
[09:46] <ompaul> seeker, ahh some they do and some they don't
[09:46] <mikeco> Abood, add your vfat drive to fstab
[09:46] <seeker> the sad part about it, is I baught it about a week before I installed linux...
[09:46] <nubbe> is there any free linux literature available on the web?
[09:47] <seeker> nubbe, YES!
[09:47] <ompaul> nubbe, more than you can read what kind of stuff do you want?
[09:47] <nubbe> dunno  :)
[09:47] <seeker> http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[09:47] <thundrcleeze> Has anyone noticed the dictionary applet servers being down the past couple weeks?
[09:47] <seeker> the best place to start!
[09:47] <ailleantsian> sorry wrong one : Where is the linux source build directory that matches your running kernel?
[09:48] <ompaul> nubbe, http://www.tldp.org after you do the ubuntuguide
[09:48] <pr3vi0uz>  anyone wanna take a crack on why my sould  doesnt work   alsa and oss doesnt  work
[09:48] <pr3vi0uz> sound!
[09:48] <mikeco> Abood, something like /dev/hdX /mnt/win_c vfat umask=0,defaults 0 0
[09:48] <mikeco> to /etc/fstab
[09:49] <djones> nubbe, I found this stuff helpful and well written http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/articles.xml
[09:50] <Abood> mikeco, thx dude i know that command but im not sure if i edited it that it will work :S ?!!!
[09:50] <seeker> ? can you repeat that?
[09:51] <seeker> if you want to check if you eddited fstab correctly
[09:51] <pr3vi0uz> mikeco any ideas how  come im not haven any sound but there doesnt seem to be an issue with drivers'
[09:51] <seeker> use umount and then mount -a
[09:51] <nubbe> thanks for the help,     djones that looks good
[09:52] <seeker> pr3vi0uz, how many sound deviced you got?
[09:52] <Abood> seeker, but i think if i did it, it will make me reboot right ?!
[09:52] <pr3vi0uz>  just 1
[09:52] <seeker> Abood, no! that's why I said to use umount and mount -a
[09:52] <mikeco> pr3vi0uz, ?
[09:52] <Abood> aha let me check
[09:52] <pr3vi0uz> seeker Audigy soundblaster
[09:52] <seeker> you can change it as many times as you want and test it without rebooting
[09:52] <mikeco> uh, is it muted?
[09:52] <seeker> pr3vi0uz, do you have an onboard chip as well?
[09:53] <mikeco> what do you have for lspci
[09:53] <mikeco> regarding sound
[09:53] <seeker> I had an onboard (crappy) chip and (vary nice) pci sound card, and it caused some trouble
[09:53] <Abood> seeker, can i write umount -a then mount -a ?
[09:53] <seeker> no
[09:53] <Abood> coz when i write umount i must put a sub comm after it
[09:54] <seeker> you need to use umount /mnt/win_c and then mount -a
[09:54] <Abood> aha
[09:54] <seeker> mount -a tells it to reuse the fstab file
[09:54] <ari_> somebody who knows how can be detected my webcam by the system
[09:54] <seeker> umount /X/X tells it to unmount that files system
[09:54] <pr3vi0uz>  starnge this  happen  as well on  livecd  knoppix but onces i did an Hd install my sound work
[09:55] <ricardo_> hi,after configuring samba I got this error"params.c:Section() - Empty section name in configuration file.
[09:55] <ricardo_> params.c:pm_process() - Failed.  Error returned from params.c:parse().
[09:55] <ricardo_> Error loading services.
[09:55] <ricardo_> "
[09:55] <seeker> what webcam do you have? ari_
[09:55] <ricardo_> anybody can help?
[09:55] <seeker> you need to check if it's supported in linux (sadly most of them are not )
[09:56] <hypno> ricardo_ did you edit the confil file manually?
[09:56] <Abood> seeker, umount /mnt/win_c wotn work dude ?!?!
[09:56] <ari_> seeker:its a pixart
[09:56] <hypno> *config
[09:56] <ricardo_> hypno,yes
[09:56] <seeker> Abood, one sec
[09:57] <hypno> then you made a mistake, go fix it :)
[09:57] <rototom> Hello together
[09:57] <wildfire6> I am installing Hoary on a Mac and have two quick questions that are newbie questions. 1. Recommended size for the main partition - 15G? and for the swap partition - 1G?
[09:57] <seeker> just checked it, and it works for me
[09:57] <seeker> what did you write
[09:57] <rototom> I have problems installing my remote control with ubuntu
[09:57] <hypno> wildfire6 they sound ok
[09:58] <rototom> its connected to the serial-port and homebrew kompatible
[09:58] <rototom> anyone wants to help me?
[09:58] <Upayavira> wildfire6: make the swap at least the same size as your available RAM.
[09:58] <seeker> Abood, did you mount the file system? do you have access to win_c?
[09:59] <Upayavira> wildfire6: So you can use software suspend, which suspends ram into your swap partition
[09:59] <seeker> if you didn't mount it yet, you wount be able to unmount it....
[09:59] <Abood> seeker, win_c not found
[09:59] <ricardo_> hypno, I don't know how to fix it
[09:59] <seeker> where did you mount it?
[09:59] <Abood> ohhh
[09:59] <wildfire6> Thanks - Last question: I boot from the CD that I burned the image to and it's asking me for the "type" of partition, with many choices. I know it's not FAT32. which "type" of partition should the install partition and the swap be?
[09:59] <Abood> now i know what u said
[09:59] <flodine> how do i change log in screen for ubuntu?
[10:00] <Upayavira> wildfire6: ext3 should do you fine.
[10:00] <Abood> seeker, just tell me how to add line directly to the fstab without openning it, u know what i mean ?!
[10:00] <thenuke> flodine: try gdmconfig
[10:00] <hypno> ricardo_ if you can't find the problem you can do sudo dpkg -r --purge samba, then sudo apt-get install samba
[10:00] <hypno> to get back to the default config
[10:00] <Upayavira> wildfire6: sorry, for swap the type should be "swap" :-)
[10:00] <ciber_> flodine sudo gdmsetup
[10:00] <thenuke> flodine: you should find that from the menus too
[10:00] <ciber_> yep
[10:00] <seeker> you have to edit the fstab file. it's just a text file. don't change any lines just add another one
[10:01] <ciber_> flodline system > administration
[10:01] <seeker> use "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[10:01] <dockane> i "apt-got" thunderbird: how do get german language support for it ?
[10:01] <seeker> you need to use sudo
[10:01] <AndyR> lo all
[10:01] <ricardo_> thx
[10:01] <Upayavira> dockane: apt-get install thunderbird-i18n-de or some such?
[10:02] <rototom> dockane, apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird-locale-de
[10:02] <wildfire6> thanks all !
[10:02] <rototom> dockane, you know, there is also a channel #ubuntu-de ?
[10:02] <Abood> seeker, i know dude, but when i add line its gives me erorr "unmask=000"
[10:02] <Upayavira> I previously booted the hoary preview CD. It detected my ipw2200 wireless adapter on dell notebook, and connected to my network. Then I installed the Hoary release CD, it detected the ipw2200 adapter, but failed to connect to the network. Any ideas what has changed between versions? What might make this work?
[10:03] <seeker> you need umask=0000
[10:03] <seeker> 4 zeros
[10:03] <seeker> just a sec let me check if im right
[10:03] <seeker> yep, 4
[10:03] <Super_Cat_Frog> hi - does anybody know where my girlfriends tweezers are?
[10:03] <dockane> rototom, hm that would be too easy. have to force me to use my english, even if its only chatting ;)
[10:03] <Super_Cat_Frog> also, is anybody else having problems with hotplug?
[10:03] <Super_Cat_Frog> when i boot it stops at  Starting Hotplug Subsystem
[10:04] <hypno> Upayavira does the network interface show up in the network settings administration dialog?
[10:04] <Abood> seeker, its working on 000 i did it :)
[10:04] <seeker> cool :)
[10:04] <b0ol> can someone send me a correct sources.list file? i destroyed mine :x
[10:04] <b0ol> plsplspls :x
[10:04] <Upayavira> hypno: Yes. But I put in my WEP key, just like I did under preview live CD, and it fails to find the network.
[10:05] <hypno> ah, don't know about that
[10:05] <dockane> rototom, "locale" sure ? : Konnte Paket mozilla-thunderbird-locale-de nicht finden
[10:05] <b0ol> PLEASE :x
[10:06] <hypno> b0ol theyre in a very easy format..: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted [universe]  [multiverse]
[10:07] <Super_Cat_Frog> my puters broked!
[10:07] <hypno> oh noes
[10:08] <hypno> yes i know ;)
[10:08] <hypno> i should change that to gb in my file, really
[10:08] <ompaul> hypno, or ie
[10:09] <hypno> ie ?
[10:09] <ompaul> Ireland
[10:09] <hypno> oh yeah
[10:09] <djones> Has anyone had any success getting the passwords to work in a classic UNIX style?
[10:09] <hypno> they don't have the internet in ireland anyways ..
[10:10] <AndyR> do they have electric yet? :)
[10:10] <ompaul> hypno, you may think that, but there is a server here that well does more than kernel dot org every day :-)
[10:10] <Super_Cat_Frog> ompaul - heanet?
[10:10] <ompaul> Super_Cat_Frog, yes
[10:11] <heftigrat_> n e 1 know how to get rid of wine err:  "wine: cannot find 'regedit'" ?
[10:11] <nakata> ireland's internet is far more advanced than north americas
[10:11] <ompaul> Super_Cat_Frog, that is a single box - 12G ram
[10:11] <nakata> look at heanet
[10:11] <nakata> it's godly.
[10:11] <nakata> most of north america is still stuck on ipv4
[10:11] <hypno> ompaul based on our experiences of trying to get dsl in galway a year ago, you understand..
[10:11] <nubbe> bugmenot ruls
[10:12] <Nermal> yay.. on breezy now :D
[10:12] <ciber_> hehe
[10:12] <ciber_> it's cool
[10:12] <ompaul> hypno, I think of shrule and sending Damn Small Linux there so that they have at least one dsl
[10:12] <ciber_> I liked the pdf preview hack
[10:12] <ciber_> ;)
[10:13] <jhaig> Anyone using an IPod with Ubuntu?
[10:13] <hypno> erk, it's Nermal - hi
[10:14] <Nermal> bah
[10:14] <Jeezis> ok, newb question
[10:14] <jhaig> I'm just testing one.  When I plugged it in I was able to browse it and I have unmounted it, but the display still says do not disconnect.  Anyone know how to disconnect it?
[10:14] <b0ol> which number has ext3 filesystem in cfdisk?
[10:14] <Jeezis> how do i get a *.bin to run
[10:14] <deltalima> Jeezis: ./filename
[10:14] <Jeezis> every time i try to run it it just opens up in kate
[10:14] <Jeezis> ah
[10:14] <jhaig> Jeezis: You may need to make it executable
[10:15] <ompaul> inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS> inet6 addr: fe80::202:b3ff:fecd:be2e/64
[10:15] <deltalima> Jeezis: "chmod a+x filename" if that doesn't work
[10:15] <Super_Cat_Frog> anybody else having problems booting past hotplug? i might have upgraded to breezys version, i cant remember
[10:15] <j^3_> works for me
[10:16] <foolip> Hi. I have a computer set up to be a masquerading router. I want it to serve DNS to the computers on the local network since the external dns servers are assigned by DHCP and may be changing. What (caching,recursive?) DNS server could I use?
[10:17] <foolip> Preferably one that just looks at my resolv.conf and asks those nameservers
[10:17] <b0ol> which number has ext3 filesystem in cfdisk?
[10:17] <jhaig> foolip: I think named is the usual
[10:18] <foolip> jhaig, that package isn't available to me. Is it called "named"?
[10:19] <jhaig> I'm not sure.  The daemon that is run is called named.  Possibly the package is called something else.
[10:19] <Rickdangerous> bind?
[10:19] <jhaig> It may be part of bind
[10:20] <Rickdangerous> packages.ubuntu.org
[10:20] <foolip> yeah, seems bind is named
[10:20] <j^3_> bind9
[10:20] <Rickdangerous> ubuntulinux*
[10:20] <Jeezis> ok, how do you copy a directory in terminal?
[10:21] <Jeezis> and then paste
[10:21] <jhaig> Jeezis: cp -a dirname new_dirname
[10:21] <Rickdangerous> ok that uri doesn't work
[10:21] <rototom> "thomas@thomas:~$ apt-cache search thunderbird german
[10:21] <rototom> mozilla-thunderbird-locale-de - Mozilla Thunderbird German Language/Region Package"
[10:22] <jhaig> Jeezis: The -a makes sure it is copied exactly, so everything inside is copied too
[10:23] <GammaRay> Jeezis: I've never seen that before but it sounds interesting.
[10:23] <rototom> dockane, i have debian sid sources integrated, perhaps thats why I get it?
[10:23] <azad> hi.. i'm trying to use qtparted and erase swapspace (on knoppix) but it gives out an error
[10:23] <GammaRay> Jeezis: you do mean actually copy the files right?
[10:23] <TFP> hi
[10:23] <GammaRay> not just the listing
[10:23] <ari_> somebody who knows how my systema could detect mi webcam
[10:23] <dockane> rototom, i am on the source.list by ubuntuguide.org -> extra repository
[10:23] <TFP> does anyone know where i get the program "convert"?
[10:24] <GammaRay> TFP: it's part of imagemagick
[10:24] <ari_> somebody who knows how my systema could detect mi webcam
[10:24] <jhaig> I have configured automount instead of using /etc/fstab for the floppy disk.    I want to add a directory to the path, and tried adding an appropriate export line to /etc/bash.bashrc and /etc/profile, but it didn't work. actually it only worked for interactive shells
[10:30] <elog> you can right click in os x
[10:30] <GammaRay> JaGWiRE``: I think there is an.. "overwrite all" option
[10:30] <Nermal> sure sure
[10:31] <Markrian> elog, do you have a Mac?
[10:31] <elog> my wife has a couple
[10:31] <azad> hi.. i'm trying to erase my swapspace using qtparted, but i get an error..
[10:31] <GammaRay> JaGWiRE``: but alleast since you don't care about you suse install you can get lots of practice (-;
[10:31] <elog> i'm stuck with cheap x86 junk
[10:31] <Markrian> elog, please use them instead of inflicting linux on yourself
[10:31] <anna> Anybody can point me to details about the HP contract for Ubuntu?
[10:32] <occy> They need to fix ubuntulinux.com   The top left logo needs to be a link back to /
[10:32] <cnez0red> good moaning
[10:32] <ari_>  somebody who knows how my systema could detect mi webcam
[10:32] <GammaRay> elog: yea.. perhaps you can corridinate your skirts w/ the purdy colors
[10:32] <occy> errr
[10:32] <occy>  s/com/org/
[10:32] <Markrian> Oh wait, I'm getting a thought - you're drunk, elog, alone, and your wife has left you because you're a raging alcoholic. Naturally she took her Macs with her.
[10:32] <Super_Cat_Frog> argh! CDE is evil!
[10:32] <JaGWiRE``> gammaray
[10:32] <Nermal> Markrian: hey!  I know on my old ibm you can easily unplug hdds
[10:34] <JaGWiRE``> hm
[10:34] <GammaRay> old ibm thinkpad that is
[10:34] <JaGWiRE``> it's a sony.. i'm not even sure how to open it
[10:34] <JaGWiRE``> hehe
[10:35] <Kartagis> I want to play mp3 on rhythmbox, it says I don't have necessary plugins, while apt-get says I do
[10:35] <elog> is there some kind of half-assed graphical tool to monkey around in gdm.conf?
[10:35] <mikeco> uh, gstreamer mad plugin
[10:35] <MacIver> elog: gvim?
[10:35] <mikeco> just used sed
[10:35] <GammaRay> gvim? lol
[10:35] <mikeco> use
[10:35] <Kartagis> let me see that
[10:35] <makyo2> anyone here using mozplugger?
[10:35] <azad> hi.. i'm trying to erase my swapspace using qtparted, but i get an error.. partition is still bound in or something.. any ideas?
[10:36] <GammaRay> mikeco: well I suppose the answer fits the asker
[10:36] <elog> i was hoping for something point-n-clicky so i could choose from a little color picker
[10:36] <mikeco> hm/
[10:36] <b0ol> how to mount an ext3 hdd?
[10:36] <hypno> azad you probably want to de-activate your swap with swapoff /dev/whatever
[10:36] <b0ol> /dev/hda3            1306        9733    67697910   83  Linux
[10:36] <b0ol>  how to mount this?
[10:36] <Nermal> mount /dev/hda3 /mountpoint ?
[10:36] <mikeco> mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/something
[10:36] <Markrian> elog, System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup
[10:36] <azad> thanks :)
[10:36] <Kartagis> mikeco: libmad0 <--- this one?
[10:37] <nubbe> b0ol, ubuntuguide.org
[10:37] <Super_Cat_Frog> elog - gdmconfig or something like that
[10:37] <GammaRay> there is also gtk config tool for gdm... I'm not telling elog what it is until he apologizes
[10:37] <mikeco> Kartagis, is that part of gstreamer?
[10:37] <b0ol> i have to set filesystem :/
[10:37] <makyo2> I have a problem with mozplugger and totem-xine... when I revisit a web page with embedded media the media won't play... I have to flush the cache in firefox... anyone knwos why?
[10:37] <b0ol> but -t ext3 doesn't work :/
[10:37] <j^3_> elog: look under system -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup
[10:37] <Nermal> how do I breath/ dress myself ?
[10:37] <elog> AH-HA! YOU'RE DUMBING DOWN LINUX WITH THIS LOGIN CREEN SETUP APP!
[10:37] <j^3_> elog: no more potty talk, k? :)
[10:37] <Markrian> Kartagis, you want gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:37] <mikeco> gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:37] <elog> busted!
[10:37] <Nermal> elog: yes mac os X boy.. dumbed down BSD indeed :P
[10:37] <MacIver> Nermal: you don't
[10:38] <Markrian> Shouldn't you be at an AA meeting right now elog?
[10:38] <mikeco> hmm, must get margaritas
[10:39] <GammaRay> JaGWiRE``: well my suggestion would be to stop living on the edge and make a backup.
[10:39] <Kartagis> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:39] <b0ol> root@sitzfurz:~# mount -t ext3 /dev/hda3 /media/windows/g
[10:39] <b0ol> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda3,
[10:39] <b0ol>        missing codepage or other error
[10:39] <b0ol>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[10:39] <b0ol>        dmesg | tail  or so
[10:40] <decaf> Kartagis: add universe and multiverse repos
[10:40] <bur[n] er> anyone know if there's a way to effectively use nautilus to right-click on an image file and "set as wallpaper" ??
[10:40] <Nermal> b0ol: it formatted ?
[10:40] <b0ol> erm...
[10:40] <b0ol> damn
[10:40] <b0ol> no :)
[10:40] <b0ol> how to do?
[10:40] <Markrian> Kartagis, then you don't have the right repositories enabled
[10:40] <Nermal> mkfs.ext3
[10:40] <Markrian> Kartagis, you want to enable the universe repositry
[10:40] <JaGWiRE``> gamma
[10:40] <JaGWiRE``> i always backup
[10:40] <b0ol> Nermal
[10:40] <JaGWiRE``> uncles boring external hd now thoguh
[10:40] <JaGWiRE``> :P
[10:40] <b0ol> is reiser fs better than ext3?
[10:41] <Nermal> uh oh..
[10:41] <SQL_Sam> can anyone guide me setting up samba? - I did the apt-get samba and it installed but I am confused now what to do?
[10:41] <Nermal> erm.. faster but explodes more spectacularly is the short answer
[10:41] <Nermal> but no doubt a flamewar will kick off about this
[10:41] <b0ol> mkay
[10:41] <pixil9> SQL_Sam: Search for SWAT and install it. http://localhost:901
[10:41] <Nermal> reiser is better for lots of small files, ext3 is very stable
[10:41] <b0ol> i'll try ext3
[10:41] <bur[n] er> SQL_Sam: what do you want to do...s hare a folder?  right click a folder, and "share folder"
[10:41] <SQL_Sam> thanks
[10:41] <Kartagis> deb http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe <--- like this?
[10:41] <bur[n] er> u don't even need swat
[10:42] <makyo2> anyone knows if the backports server is down?
[10:42] <pixil9> Well it's great that it creates shares
[10:42] <pixil9> except you can't access them
[10:42] <pixil9> so yes you're gonna want swat
[10:42] <SQL_Sam> yes want to make this a windows sever for windows files
[10:42] <Markrian> SQL_Sam, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[10:42] <hypno> SQL_Sam administration->shared folers is a nice graphical admin tool
[10:42] <Markrian> Kartagis, yes
[10:43] <sobersabre> yelp crashes!
[10:43] <sobersabre> what can be the problem ?
[10:43] <sobersabre> i am on hoary
[10:43] <Kartagis> Markrian: do I have to do anything else after adding the right lines?
[10:43] <sobersabre> straced it
[10:43] <hor> Can somebody tell me in which package the program 'aclocal' is?
[10:43] <SQL_Sam> i've looked at the ubuntu help for samba but i'm not showing what it has there....
[10:44] <sobersabre> it dies after it tries to open:
[10:44] <hor> or how I can find out, which package provides a specific executable
[10:44] <GammaRay> hor: apt-file
[10:44] <sobersabre> /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/xpti.dat.tmp"
[10:44] <b0ol> great
[10:44] <Markrian> Kartagis, update the package listings, so either reload using synaptic, or do sudo apt-get update
[10:44] <b0ol> thnx Nermal
[10:44] <b0ol> :)
[10:44] <ari_> somebody who knows how my systema could detect mi webcam
[10:44] <Zotnix> I was wondering.. say I have a seperate disk (like 6 gigs really)... if I put my swap on there would that improve performance? (since it would write to the other disk that doesn't get used as much)
[10:44] <hor> GammaRay: Thank you! :)
[10:44] <Levande1> Is there a dpkg command line option to verify the files that were installed by a package?
[10:44] <makyo2> so, anyone here using mozplugger?
[10:45] <Levande1> dpkg or some other similar command
[10:45] <b0ol> gn8 folks
[10:45] <ari_> somebody who knows how my systema could detect mi webcam
[10:45] <Kartagis> okay, I did apt-get update
[10:46] <Levande1> Zotnix: a little it would improve, could also put the other hard disk on a different IDE ribbon, make even a little faster
[10:46] <hor> GammaRay: But i thought of a program that can search for files that aren't installed on my system. I am searching for the package i need to have aclocal
[10:46] <Kartagis> ari_: load the necessary module?
[10:46] <Levande1> Zotnix: you realize you don't need 6 gigs of swap though right?
[10:46] <Zotnix> oh I know.
[10:46] <Markrian> Levande1, why do you want to do that?
[10:46] <Zotnix> But I'm not using.
[10:46] <Zotnix> Erm, I'm not using it.
[10:46] <Levande1> Markrian: do what?
[10:46] <Zotnix> So I figured I could put my 500 megs or so of swap on i.
[10:46] <Zotnix> t
[10:46] <Markrian> Levande1, check files installed from a package
[10:46] <Levande1> verify the installation of a package?
[10:46] <Kartagis> 6 gigs of swap?
[10:46] <Kartagis> og
[10:47] <SQL_Sam> i could not connect to local host?
[10:47] <Markrian> SQL_Sam, read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[10:47] <Levande1> Levande1: because I ran out of room on my boot partition during the hoary upgrade, even though the kernel boots fine, i'd like to make sure that the kernel package installed okay
[10:47] <Zotnix> My reasoning is that when it writes to swap it writes to the disk that my data is on and using... so it slows everything down.
[10:48] <Levande1> SQL_Sam: how were you trying to connect to localhost?
[10:48] <Markrian> Levande1, dpkg would have bombed out if it didn't work
[10:48] <Markrian> Levande1, so it's almost definitely fine
[10:48] <Zotnix> If I use /dev/hda for my swap (part of it, at least) it won't be writing to the disk I'm using (alleviating some slowdown)
[10:48] <Levande1> Zotnix: yes, is old trick to put user data on one disk, application runtime stuff on another, was done a lot with SCSI disk setups.  Similar would work for swap.  But do not expect it to be twice as fast.
[10:49] <Levande1> Markrian: yeah, well, I'd like to make sure...
[10:49] <Zotnix> Levande1: Heh, I wouldn't ;)
[10:49] <Levande1> Zotnix: that trick was called scattering and splattering, forget why, would have to google...
[10:50] <Zotnix> I can google.
[10:50] <Levande1> nobody knows a dpkg command line option to verify the installation of a package?
[10:50] <Markrian> Levande1, dpkg-query -s <package>
[10:50] <Markrian> Levande1, or rather dpkg-query -s <package> | grep Status
[10:50] <Zotnix> I have only two disks. Right now /dev/hdb has /home, /, and swap on it. I want to move swap to /dev/hda2 or something
[10:50] <Kartagis> Markrian: how do I solve the "not installable" problem?
[10:51] <transgress> hey i'm trying to install my wireless, but i can't find the driver... the hp site has it but it's an a self extracting zip
[10:51] <Markrian> Kartagis, that depends - what are you trying to install and what's the exact error?
[10:52] <Markrian> transgress, presumably you're going to use ndiswrapper?
[10:52] <SQL_Sam> I'm using KDE right now for samba do i need to install smbfs?
[10:52] <Kartagis> Markrian: http://www.pastebin.com/273834
[10:52] <Markrian> SQL_Sam, no
[10:52] <transgress> Markrian: yes
[10:52] <dockane> how do you write nowhere ? (like in the middle of nowhere)
[10:52] <phxguy> anyone know how-to make ubuntu auto detect the filesystem
[10:53] <decaf> phxguy: which filesystem?
[10:53] <MacIver> export NOAUTODETECT=off
[10:53] <phxguy> iso9660 or cramfs
[10:53] <dcraven> dockane, /dev/null :)
[10:53] <Levande1> Markrian: yeah, that command you gave me says it installed okay.  It is wierd though seeing "df" report zero bytes free on the partition that a kernel was installed onto while you weren't even in front of the computer
[10:53] <Levande1> thanks for your help
[10:53] <Markrian> transgress, so you wanna know how to get at what's inside the self-extracting zip?
[10:53] <Markrian> Kartagis, something's VERY wrong - have you added any weird repositories?
[10:54] <bur[n] er> anyone use evolution with exchange?  I have a question about offline calendaring
[10:54] <Levande1> sucks, because I'm gonna have to jump through hoops to get a bigger kernel partition, i was lucky this time there was enough room, would be surprised next time
[10:54] <transgress> Markrian: that would work
[10:54] <Markrian> Levande1, zero bytes free? That DOES sound suspicious :p
[10:54] <dcraven> Levande1, maybe you can just symlink a kernel from another disk.
[10:54] <phxguy> ie added this to my fstab but ubuntu cant determine the filesystem /mnt/app/4/image /mnt/app/4 auto user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0
[10:54] <dantheman> if i'm printing on normal 8.5 x 11 paper, do i want letter size paper or A4 in my printer settings?
[10:54] <dcraven> Levande1, for the time being anyways...
[10:55] <phxguy> dantheman: letter
[10:55] <Levande1> Markrian: yeah, that's what I was saying, that's why I wanted to verify installation
[10:55] <Markrian> transgress, just "unzip driver.exe"
[10:55] <transgress> Markrian: i tried that... doesn't work
[10:55] <Levande1> dcraven: it's working as is, I'm worried about future upgrades though.  I can remove one usused kernel this time, but next time, if the next kernel is 1K bigger, I assume it won't install
[10:55] <Markrian> Levande1, I didn't realise... I'm not convinced now :p
[10:55] <ari_> Kartagis:what do you mean with module
[10:55] <dockane> dcraven, that would be the posix describtion ? but need it seriosly ;)
[10:56] <Kartagis> ari_: you need a module for webcam
[10:56] <Levande1> Markrian: well, I'm using the system with that kernel boot now, just fine
[10:56] <SQL_Sam> dumb question here - Firefox has been timing out left and right (cant even get to google).  I'm using konqueror now and it seems to be rockin - any ideas why?
[10:56] <Levande1> talk about cosmic coinicidences
[10:56] <dcraven> dockane, I don't think there is anything wrong about "nowhere".
[10:57] <Markrian> SQL_Sam, proxy settings correct?
[10:57] <Levande1> SQL_Sam: try a ping next time, network could have been flaky, might just be working better now...
[10:57] <SQL_Sam> auto detect
[10:57] <SQL_Sam> it's been a few days
[10:57] <azad> when i try to resize hda4 i get an error "ntfs_mount failed: Input-/Output error"
[10:57] <SQL_Sam> constantly giving me problems
[10:57] <dcraven> Kartagis, you have the merrillat repository in your sources.list? I'd comment it out and install the gstreamer plugin in Hoary.
but i dont know what is a module, could you explain me
[10:57] <Levande1> azad: what utility you using to resize, i'll probably have to do the same thing soon
[10:57] <Levande1> ?
[10:57] <azad> qtparted
[10:58] <Levande1> your partition utility has a qt GUI front-end?
[10:58] <dantheman> does anyone know how i would fix problems where my printing is a bit fuzzier, and the text is larger than it should be?
[10:58] <SQL_Sam> i'm wondering if there is something in firefox I can adjust
[10:58] <azad> i have a graphical surface if you mean that
[10:58] <ari_> Kartagis:????
[10:58] <phxguy> decaf: any ideas on this?
[10:59] <Kartagis> dcraven: deb http://tr.adeb http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted
[10:59] <Kartagis> deb-src http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-updates main restricted rchive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[10:59] <Kartagis> deb-src http://tr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe are what I have
[10:59] <Kartagis> ari_: there's a webcam-HOWTO on www.tldp.org
[10:59] <dcraven> Levande1, there is a gparted too with a gtk frontend to parted.
[10:59] <Kartagis> go read that
[10:59] <Levande1> SQL_Sam: you know there's a heavilty traffic firefox channel on the mozilla irc server, they prolly help you more
[11:00] <ari_> <Kartagis: ok
[11:00] <pixil9> SQL_Sam, you remove and reinstall it?
[11:00] <SQL_Sam> is it on this freenode?
[11:00] <SQL_Sam> havent tried remove and reisntall yet
[11:00] <Levande1> SQL_Sam: there is a #firefox on freenode, but it's always dead, gimme a sec to get you the mozilla irc server
[11:00] <SQL_Sam> thanks!
[11:01] <raposa> hi.
[11:01] <Levande1> SQL_Sam: it's on irc.mozilla.org
[11:01] <dcraven> Kartagis, is looks like those repos may be out of sync because the required dependancies are in ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu repos.
[11:01] <SQL_Sam> thank you
[11:01] <raposa> I am have a system with a corrupted raid, and have booted it up with the ubuntu linux live CD.
[11:02] <raposa> How can I view the harddrives?
[11:02] <raposa> ls -l /dev/hd* reveals nothing
[11:02] <blue_eclipse> it's a scsi raid?
[11:02] <raposa> nope
[11:02] <Kartagis> dcraven: so I change tr to ca?
[11:02] <dcraven> raposa, you'll need to mount them.
[11:03] <Kartagis> dcraven: or just add it?
[11:03] <dcraven> Kartagis, you searched for the libmad0 package and the correct version is unavailable on the repos you use?
[11:03] <raposa> mount them just as I would a cdrom drive.
[11:03] <raposa> dcraven, I give it a go.
[11:03] <raposa> just thought I'd see them in /dev
[11:04] <dcraven> raposa, does fdisk see them?
[11:04] <Kartagis> root@kunduz:~ # apt-cache search libmad0
[11:04] <Kartagis> root@kunduz:~ #
[11:04] <Kartagis>  <--- nothing on this
[11:04] <SQL_Sam> sorry to be such a newbie - I'm using xchat - tried adding irc.mozilla.org but doesnt find it - am i doing the connection right?
[11:05] <jhaig> Sometimes when I log in there seems to be an auto-repeat on the keyboard (ie, if I type 'a' I get 'aaaaaaaaa').  The only way I can find to stop this is rebooting - logging out and back in doesn't seem to work.  Anyone any idea why this might be?
[11:05] <raposa> dcraven, hmm.  dfisk -l /dev/hdc gives me, "no valid partition table."  nice.
[11:05] <dockane> dcraven, thnx
[11:06] <dcraven> raposa, isn't hdc typically a CDROM?
[11:06] <dockane> raposa, have not followed your conversation. gpart may recover lost partition tables
[11:07] <dcraven> jhaig, there are settings for this in System->Preferenced->Keyboard, but it sounds like it may be a problem elsewhere. Worth a look though.
[11:07] <transgress> i love vnc
[11:07] <transgress> but i still gotta get my freaking wireless setup
[11:07] <jhaig> dcraven: It is not all the time, but often enough to be very annoying.  I suspect it is not a Gnome problem but something to do with Xorg.
[11:08] <Guga> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:08] <Guga> glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.
[11:08] <dcraven> SQL_Sam, I'd say you are not adding the connection right as I just did it with success.
[11:08] <j^3_> jhaig: no sticky keys, right?
[11:09] <nickrud> jhaig, the only time I had problems like that I had to get a new keyboard
[11:09] <geneo93> help getting system sounds on kde anyone
[11:09] <Guga> Can someone help me get glxgears running again?
[11:09] <Kartagis> dcraven: it says a bug report should be filed
[11:09] <dcraven> geneo93, you may have luck here with that, but you may have even better luck in #kubuntu.
[11:09] <jhaig> J^3 I haven't set up any sticky keys.  It is not just the keyboard.  When I try to get the menu I have to keep the mouse button pressed or the menu disappears immediately.
[11:10] <SQL_Sam> weird... k trying again
[11:10] <geneo93> well even gnome sounds dont work
[11:10] <SQL_Sam> says unknown hosts may have mispelled it?
[11:10] <j^3_> jhaig: I've had that happen when a book or something was sitting on my keyboard and I didn't notice
[11:10] <geneo93> but i dont use gnome atm
[11:10] <j^3_> jhaig: sounds a lot like hardware to me
[11:11] <dcraven> SQL_Sam, irc.mozilla.org/6667 is what worked for me.
[11:11] <nickrud> geneo93, have you made sure you have no sound servers running and
[11:11] <SQL_Sam> k
[11:11] <nickrud> cat some.wav > /dev/dsp
[11:12] <transgress> hey is there a way to download the kernel sources for ubuntu?  i'm trying to install the nvidia driver
[11:12] <geneo93> nickrud:  from boot it shouldn't have and when i use exrernal player it works fine
[11:12] <nickrud> geneo93, what external player
[11:13] <geneo93> well xmms is the only one i have tried
[11:13] <nickrud> geneo93, in xmms, what sound output option did you select?
[11:13] <dcraven> SQL_Sam, menu bar --> X-Chat | New | Server Tab, then in that new tab, type "/server irc.mozilla.org". You wil then be connected to both freenode and mozilla.
[11:14] <jhaig> Well, although I said it didn't happen all the time I have just booted up a third time and it is the same.  This is making the machine completely unusable.  :-(
[11:14] <geneo93> that works fine but it only does it once till you close xmms
[11:14] <nickrud> geneo93 ?
[11:14] <raposa> \quit
[11:14] <nad> can anyone offer assistance with the multiseat package?
[11:14] <Guga> glxgears isn't working, someone please help
[11:14] <geneo93> so i set it back to default
[11:14] <conor> any1 think they could help me install vmware? i'm using Hoary Hedgehog kernel: 2.6.10-5-386
[11:15] <j^3_> jhaig: always the same key(s)?
[11:15] <conor> please?
[11:15] <geneo93> nickrud:  someone said permissions for default player was turned off
[11:16] <nickrud> geneo93, if we're going to be able to help you, you have to answer the questions we ask :)
[11:16] <jhaig> J^3_: All keys and the mouse are all playing up
[11:16] <dcraven> concept10, does this help? --> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/VMware
[11:16] <jhaig> ... but only after logging in.  I have not changed any of the Gnome settings, though.
[11:16] <j^3_> wierd
[11:17] <conor> mm nope, i have version 5
[11:17] <dcraven> Guga, is glx loaded in your xorg.conf?
[11:17] <AndyR> 7.00 fps here on glxgears :(
[11:17] <Guga> yes, dcraven
[11:17] <dcraven> AndyR, nice :)
[11:17] <dcraven> Guga, which video chipset?
[11:17] <AndyR> dcraven, old laptop
[11:17] <geneo93> oss nickrud it was set by default
[11:17] <nickrud> good
[11:18] <conor> i get this error when trying to configure vmware: make: *** [vmmon.ko]  Error 2
[11:18] <j^3_> jhaig: you could try cleaning out your gnome settings, I suppose
[11:18] <conor> unable to build vmware module
[11:18] <nickrud> do   ps -ax | grep esd
[11:18] <Guga> nvidia dcraven
[11:18] <j^3_> jhaig: is it still messed up if you drop to a console?
[11:19] <dcraven> conor, you followd the directions on that wiki page?
[11:19] <geneo93> Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
[11:19] <geneo93>   nickrud
[11:19] <nickrud> geneo93, new to the command line?
[11:19] <conor> i'll try it, it says VWMARE 5 should work fine tho, and i have it
[11:19] <conor> ill het back to u on that1...
[11:19] <dcraven> geneo93, ps aux  | grep esd
[11:19] <geneo93> nickrud:  no
[11:19] <conor> get*
[11:19] <Guga> dcraven, do you want the xorg.conf on a private chat?
[11:19] <jhaig> No, the console is OK.  And starting xinit from a console is also OK (doesn't start Gnome) so I think something in Gnome must have got changed.
[11:20] <dcraven> Guga, no. pastebin.com.
[11:20] <jhaig> If I move .gnome2 to hold.gnome2 will .gnome2 be created new?
[11:20] <nickrud> ok, what I'm doing is checking to see if gnome's sound deamon (enlightened sound deamon) is running, and if it is, how.
[11:20] <geneo93> oot     10758  0.0  0.1   2948   580 pts/1    S+   17:18   0:00 grep esd
[11:20] <j^3_> I'd try backing up the .gnome* dirs and blowing them away (without gnome running at the time)
[11:20] <Guga> done, dcraven
[11:21] <nickrud> ok, now, are you running gnome, or another window manager
[11:21] <j^3_> Let gnome recreate them and see if there is any difference 1) in what gets created, 2) behavior
[11:21] <transgress> anyone know a repo that i can use for getting mplayer and blackbox?
[11:21] <dcraven> conor, oh.. You may need to install the linux-headers package for your running kernel so that VMWare can compile against them. The package will be called type "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`" in a terminal.
[11:21] <geneo93> nic` i have gnome and kde both but kde atm
[11:22] <nickrud> then let me see ps -ax | grep arts
[11:22] <dockane> Banned Temporary K-line 1440 min. - Blacklisted Proxy found. <- do i have to take this seriously ?
[11:22] <Upayavira> hypno: best way to fix wireless: reboot! It is working fine now, and I'm now chatting from within my Ubuntu install.
[11:22] <hypno> Upayavira super :)
[11:23] <mikeco> is jackit worth using?
[11:23] <Edgan> Is there no VMware package for Ubuntu? Or package to create a package like java-package?
[11:23] <nickrud> arts: don't know what it stands for, but it's the kde sound deamon
[11:23] <geneo93>  S      0:04 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f
[11:23] <geneo93> 10771 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep arts
[11:23] <geneo93>   nickrud
[11:23] <Guga> I did, dcraven  under my name
[11:23] <Upayavira> Edgan: VMWare is a commercial package. So no, to my knowledge there isn't a package for it.
[11:23] <Edgan> Upayavira: lame
[11:24] <nickrud> no sound daemon at all, eh?
[11:24] <Upayavira> Edgan: Why?
[11:24] <Edgan> Upayavira: Everything should have a package. Package management is good.
[11:24] <Njal> What help can someone give me about rolling me own kernel?
[11:24] <Upayavira> Edgan: Well, yes, but unless VMWare themselves produce one, it is unlikely.
[11:24] <geneo93> kane      9424  0.0  1.4  21924  7720 ?        S    10:40   0:04 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 60 -m artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f
[11:24] <geneo93> kane     10775  0.0  0.1   2952   588 pts/1    S+   17:22   0:00 grep arts
[11:25] <nickrud> geneo93, I gotta step out right now, but if you want to stick with kde, #kubuntu will help better, but if you want to run gnome I'll be on later this evening.
[11:25] <Edgan> Upayavira: There is java-package for java. It isn't like it isn't doable.
[11:25] <exarkun> Upayavira: nothing prevents anyone else from creating a vmware package
[11:25] <nickrud> geneo93,
[11:25] <exarkun> Upayavira: the only thing you have to buy from them is a key
[11:25] <exarkun> everything else is freely downloadable
[11:25] <dockane> geneo93, whats that ?
[11:25] <Kartagis> hoakaln / bye
[11:26] <geneo93> that was second try
[11:26] <nad> Edgan: have you tried the QEMU package?
[11:26] <Upayavira> Edgan: you could always try: http://www.fbriere.net/debian/vmware/
[11:26] <exarkun> has anyone here done a dist upgrade from an existing debian install?  what were the results?
[11:26] <j^3_> I did
[11:26] <j^3_> mixed results
[11:26] <Upayavira> What is the recommended way to play movie dvds on Ubuntu?
[11:26] <jhaig> OK, I created a completely new home directory with no files in it at all and I still have the same problem.
[11:27] <Edgan> Upayavira: I recommend totem-xine. It does a good job for me.
[11:27] <Upayavira> Edgan: thanks
[11:27] <nickrud> geneo93, one last thing: do cat /usr/share/sounds/login.wav   Do you hear it?
[11:27] <j^3_> jhaig: true for all user accounts?
[11:27] <jhaig> There is only one user account
[11:28] <j^3_> so make another one and check
[11:28] <dcraven> Guga, I'm unfamiliar with this video chipset, but do you have the sis module loaded into the kernel?
[11:28] <j^3_> you should be able to test with root
[11:28] <geneo93> nickrud:  just a mangled mess
[11:28] <Guga> dcraven, how would I determine that?
[11:28] <dcraven> Guga, lsmod | grep sis
[11:28] <nad> exarkun: me also. also mixed results
[11:28] <nickrud> geneo93, cat /usr/share/sounds/login.wav > /dev/dsp
[11:29] <Edgan> Upayavira: I found someone with a Debian repo with VMware. I can probably take his source package and adapt it.
[11:29] <exarkun> nad, j^3_: usable?  fixable?  more trouble than just doing a clean install?
[11:29] <geneo93> nickrud:  same thing
[11:29] <LeeColleton> I'm totally baffled by this.  I have two interfaces on my server, eth1 and eth2.  mii-tool says there is a good link on eth2 but I can't ping from <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS> on it.  Any suggestions?
[11:29] <Guga> dcraven   sis900                 20100  0
[11:29] <Guga> i2c_sis630              7436  0
[11:29] <Guga> i2c_core               22320  1 i2c_sis630
[11:29] <Guga> sis_agp                 8036  1
[11:29] <Guga> agpgart                33608  1 sis_agp
[11:29] <Guga> sis5513                16328  1
[11:29] <Guga> ide_core              129356  4 ide_cd,ide_generic,sis5513,ide_disk
[11:29] <SavvyPlayer> Is it possible to configure apt-get to prefer packages from one distro?
[11:29] <dcraven> Guga, don't paste like that in here please.
[11:30] <Guga> sorry, dcraven
[11:30] <j^3_> exarkun: it was useable and fixable, but it was a *lot* of work to get the packages right
[11:30] <nad> exarkun: yes but easier to install fresh
[11:30] <amonkey> savvyplayer: synaptic can do that, dunno about apt-get
[11:30] <dcraven> Guga, I'm looking here --> http://www.winischhofer.net/sisdri.shtml
[11:30] <geneo93> nickrud:  this time it wont stop
[11:31] <nickrud> I really gotta go, but what I'd do reboot, and see if I hear the login, and if not,
[11:31] <jhaig> New account, still same problem.
[11:31] <geneo93> k
[11:31] <nickrud> stopped at just the point I got your line,
[11:31] <geneo93>  l8r then
[11:31] <j^3_> SavvyPlayer: look at the apt faq for "pinning"
[11:31] <dcraven> Guga, try "modprobe sis".
[11:31] <Guga> there, dcraven
[11:31] <nickrud> bye
[11:32] <transgress> if i'm trying to install the nvidia drivers for ubuntu i can just grab the linux-headers to satisfy it right?
[11:32] <Guga> error inserting drm, sis    dcraven
[11:32] <SavvyPlayer> thanks!
[11:32] <Zotnix> Levande1: Thanks. Successfully moved my swap to /dev/hda1
[11:32] <holycow> transgress, just follow the instructions on the ubuntu site for nvidia drivers
[11:32] <dockane> apt getting currently only returns file or dir not found. mmhh
[11:32] <holycow> transgress, apt-get two times and restart x an dyour done
[11:32] <nad> transgress: just install the ubuntu package
[11:32] <holycow> same for ati drivers
[11:33] <XandriX> jdub isint there isint he ........
[11:35] <nad> how do i get my open directories in own windows back?
[11:36] <transgress> does installing the nvidia glx drivers add to my x config properly and whatnot?
[11:36] <transgress> i couldn't find the instructions on the ubuntu site via google
[11:36] <jhaig> J^3_: I tried with a new account and got the same problem.
[11:36] <spiderworm> hey all how do I get the shutdown, hibernate options in KDE on hoary 5.04
[11:37] <nad> transgress: there is an instruction in the package description
[11:38] <SavvyPlayer> transgress:
[11:38] <SavvyPlayer> yes... follow the debian instructions for building and you'll be fine
[11:38] <nad> transgress: the install is okay but I find driver conflicts occasionally
[11:38] <transgress> nad: thanks
[11:38] <transgress> SavvyPlayer: you too
[11:39] <mainer> spiderworm: right-click on desktop,configure desktop
[11:40] <j^3_> jhaig: do you have any other windows managers installed right now? xfce maybe?  does the problem happen there too?
[11:40] <Guga> need help with glxgears/nvidia driver
[11:41] <j^3_> jhaig: any errors in the log files?
[11:42] <spiderworm> mainer: ok
[11:42] <spiderworm> mainer: then what?
[11:43] <duddie> Is there a deb package for wxWidget dev tools? (lib, headers..)
[11:43] <dcraven> Guga, nvidia? I thought it was an sis chip?
[11:43] <transgress> grar... installing the nvidia packages all kinds of screwed up my resolution
[11:43] <Guga> negative, dcraven.
[11:44] <dcraven> Guga, can you paste the output of lspci into pastebin.com?
[11:44] <Guga> sure, dcraven.  one nanosecond
[11:44] <dcraven> Guga, according to your xorg.conf, it's an sis.
[11:44] <jhaig> J^3_: I don't have any other WM or desktops installed and there are no errors I can find in any of the logs.
[11:45] <Guga> as you commanded, dcraven.
[11:45] <jhaig> How do I reconfigure Xorg?  I cannot find anything other than to set the screen resolution.
[11:46] <dcraven> Guga, I'm not seeing any nvidia chipset in there... Only SIS. Can I ask why you think it is an nvidia chip?
[11:47] <Guga> dcraven, it says so on the side of my comp :P
[11:47] <Guga> sis drivers to download, dcraven?
[11:47] <dcraven> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  630/730 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter (rev 31)
[11:47] <j^3_> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:47] <Guga> hmmm.  dcraven, I think I've found the problem.
[11:48] <dcraven> Guga, your computer lies. Is this a new box?  That may be part of your problem ;P
[11:49] <Guga> yes, I believe so.  dcraven.  what are my options?
[11:49] <rj-> I just added a new video card to my machine running hoary with x.org's server installed, I tried to do a dpkg --configure xserver-xorg but it says its already installed and configured
[11:49] <j^3_> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:49] <rj-> ah. thanks.
[11:49] <dcraven> Guga, did you install the nvidia modules? If you did, then you might as well lose them.
[11:49] <Guga> ok, dcraven
[11:50] <andril> hello all
[11:51] <dcraven> Guga, is the nvidia module loaded in your kernel? "lsmod | grep nvidia" will tell you.
[11:51] <dcraven> hi andril
[11:51] <dcraven> bye andril
[11:51] <j^3_> jhaig: I'm stumped.  not finding anything similair via google either
[11:52] <ishkabob> hey can anyone help with an ipod question?
[11:52] <jhaig> J^3_: Thanks for the help.  I think I'll give up for the night.  I just wanted to set up one more thing and then this happened - that was about an hour and a half ago.  :-(
[11:52] <Guga> just nvidia kernel common, dcraven
[11:53] <j^3_> jhaig: sorry about that!
[11:53] <dcraven> Guga, uninstall it if you haven't already. I'll assume the answer to my last question was "no". :)
[11:53] <jhaig> Not your problem.  Probably something up with the hardware.  I had just plugged in an IPod - I don't know if that is significant, but it shouldn't be.
[11:54] <j^3_> is the kb usb?
[11:54] <Guga> uninstalled, oh, wise dcraven.  :P
[11:54] <jhaig> No.
[11:54] <j^3_> don't think so then..
[11:54] <nad> Guga: no, that's part of the linux restricted kernel package
[11:54] <thr1ce> why can I not find win32 codecs ?
[11:54] <Guga> no nad?
[11:55] <ishkabob> anyone get that last message?
[11:55] <nad> Guga: the nvidia kernel common package is a dummy
[11:55] <Guga> you're telling me, nad
[11:55] <marc> kann man hier einfach drauf los fragen ?
[11:56] <qpid> thr1ce: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[11:56] <eaon> marc: #ubuntu-de
[11:56] <\sh> marc: in english please
[11:56] <\sh> marc: in german on #ubuntu-de
[11:56] <nad> thr1ce: see marillat
[11:56] <ishkabob> can anyone help with an ipod question?
[11:56] <thr1ce> marillat ?
[11:56] <beh> ishkabob: maybe
[11:56] <nad> i'm looking it up
[11:56] <thr1ce> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[11:57] <nad> # deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main
[11:57] <ishkabob> I think that this post is valid because I have been combing the internet for about a week now trying to figure out how to do this.
[11:57] <ishkabob> I have a 3rd Gen, firewire, 40gig Ipod, and Hoary.
[11:57] <ishkabob> Originally when I installed Ubuntu, I could plug my iPod in, and Ubuntuwould automatically recognize it and mount it. I would then use thecommand "sudo eject /dev/sda2" to eject it. However, if I would ejectit, and then try and plug it back in, ubuntu would route it to/dev/sdb2. Now, when I plug the ipod in, nothing happens. It justcharges. This happened once before, and reinstalling the hal packagesseemed to fix the problem. I tried it again...no such luck
[11:58] <Guga> glxgears still doesn't work, nad
[11:58] <dcraven> Guga, now that the nvidia stuff is uninstalled, the first thing I'd do is try restarting X by logging out of GNOME and back in.
[11:58] <marc> i have a problem with my sound card. i can hear some noise when ubuntu starts up, but realplayer hang up when i start it
[11:58] <transgress> hey anyone know of a repo that i can use to get mplayer?
[11:58] <Guga> dcraven, ok.
[11:58] <transgress> i'd much prefer it to compiling it manually
[11:58] <nad> thr1ce: add that to your /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment it
[11:58] <Guga> dcraven, nad said I need it
[11:58] <Abood> guys, iv got proplem with sound, when i try to open Totem on a move; it told me Error: Alsa Device "Default" is already in use by another program . ??? any idea ?!
[11:58] <dcraven> Guga, you need nvidia modules for an SIS chipset??
[11:59] <beh> ishkabob: type lsmod and see if sbp2 ieee1394 and ohci1394 are running
[11:59] <thr1ce> nad, ok; it'll work alright with breezy right?
[11:59] <ishkabob> k
[11:59] <Guga> ok, dcraven
[11:59] <thr1ce> W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907