[04:30] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:05]  * AdamMacbook coughs
[05:05] <AdamMacbook> hello all
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> wb
[05:06] <AdamMacbook> thanks
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> AdamMacbook: there's a pretty active gaming community on #gamingonlinux aswell
[05:07] <AdamMacbook> Yeah, I do a lot of gaming on linux ^_^
[05:07] <AdamMacbook> usually with wine but, you know.
[05:07] <AdamMacbook> a few on steam
[05:07] <AdamMacbook> But hey, perhaps lubuntu would work good on this older macbook
[05:08] <AdamMacbook> is there a cli tool to make ubuntu live usb's like unetbootin... because I'm kinda restricted to terminal at this point
[05:08] <AdamMacbook> actually, let me try a reboot, brb
[05:09] <oerheks> he runs faster thant that macbook
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> breakfast
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> (slow)
[06:27] <ducasse> good morning, guys
[06:31] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:32] <ducasse> good morning, lordievader
[06:33] <lordievader> Hey ducasse , How are you doing?
[06:34] <ducasse> i'm ok, thanks, and you?
[06:34] <oerheks> hi there lordievader
[06:34] <lordievader> Doing good here :)
[06:34] <lordievader> Hey oerheks
[06:34] <lordievader> How are you?
[06:35] <oerheks> fine thank you, and how about yourself?
[06:36] <lordievader> Doing good here. Trying to get a Windows vm to cooperate.
[06:39] <oerheks> what colour?
[06:40] <lordievader> What do you mean?
[06:44] <oerheks> Blue?
[06:44] <oerheks> bsod :-P
[06:45] <lordievader> Have only seen one 😋
[06:45] <oerheks> i like blue, this naked cargobike will be RAL5005 soon https://www.dropbox.com/s/klgfdd2kfrutxt7/2018sanding-bike.JPG?dl=0
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> hey lordievader
[07:25] <lordievader> 👋
[10:50] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:50] <EriC^^> hey BluesKaj
[10:51] <BluesKaj> Hi EriC^^
[10:52] <BluesKaj> encrypting ubiquity ? ...wth
[11:04] <JimBuntu> needs some paint oerheks
[11:06] <lordievader> Encrypting ubiquity? Where?
 stevenm_: the ubuntu installer isn't very encryption customizable
[11:15] <BluesKaj> hey lordievader
[11:16] <lordievader> 👋
[11:16] <lordievader> How are you doing BluesKaj ?
[11:17] <BluesKaj> ok here lordievader, how about you?
[11:18] <lordievader> Doing good here :)
[13:06] <pauljw> hi everyone
[13:08] <leftyfb> could someone assist Mustaches in the main chat? That troll(Bugzie/Bigzie) is just going to make things worse for them
[13:15] <BluesKaj> bugzie suffers from "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" syndrome ...he thinks he's actually helping
[13:29] <leftyfb> he's a known troll
[13:30] <leftyfb> please just ignore him
[13:38] <JimBuntu> hmmmm. It seems ubottu has lost some commands
[13:39] <JimBuntu> best, anyone and poll don't seem to work anymore, yes they are still listed at the ubottu.com/factoids.cgi page
[13:42] <leftyfb> hggdh: ? chu ?
[13:43] <hggdh> genii took care of it
[13:46] <blackflow> he usually just comes back with another IP or nick. they all share one thing though, "marvel" account name. that one should be keyed.
[13:47] <blackflow> oh look, he just did.
[13:47] <blackflow> hggdh: ^^  :)
[13:53] <coconut> Anyone here ever used an Entroware laptop?
[13:54] <leftyfb> coconut: if you need help with it, I would suggest detailing an actual support question in #ubuntu
[13:55] <coconut> leftyfb: no i just want a good laptop, as we all do i guess. I don't have on of that brand yet.
[13:56] <coconut> But thanks for caring. :)
[14:22] <hggdh> he does not keep the same account always.
[14:38] <blackflow> and he's back. Rainyaviel, ircname: win10
[16:02] <EriC^^> why's #ubuntu +r?
[16:03] <JimBuntu> nuisance chatter
[16:03] <EriC^^> oic
[19:07] <tomreyn> leftyfb: thanks again for your support earlier ;)
[19:07] <leftyfb> tomreyn: did you get it sorted?
[19:08] <tomreyn> turns out ITS ALL TJ's FAULT!!!111 (TM)
[19:08] <leftyfb> isn't that usually the case? :)
[19:08] <tomreyn> yes, sorted, and not really TJ's fault, just kidding. i applied these ACPI_OSI tests to my system and had forgotten about it
[19:09] <tomreyn> which just made the system fail to boot without any message
[19:09] <tomreyn> and then got puzzled by the initrd format, which still puzzles me
[19:11] <tomreyn> http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html is what i'm referring to. i had put 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=! acpi_osi="Windows 2015"' into my /etc/default/grub on this ryzen system
[19:14] <Bashing-om> tomreyn: reasons we should not recommned TJ-'s advise ?
[19:15] <tomreyn> well, depend son whether you want it to boot or not ;)
[19:16] <tomreyn> but his article is fine. it's just me who failed to test it.
[19:16] <tomreyn> its not that his article says "this will work"
[19:17] <Bashing-om> tomreyn: Not usable on a Ryzen board ? .. As I have had good results from the DSDT change on laptops .
[19:18] <tomreyn> Bashing-om: not the "Windows 2015" string, for me. i haven't tried any others, yet, plan to do this still. for now i'm just glad i can boot
[19:19] <tomreyn> it's also a desktop, not a laptop. but i do have some acpi issues. acpid freezes on shutdown and, i think, also after power saving.
[19:20] <tomreyn> oh i should say i was the "initrd" person on #ubuntu in case you watched me yelling for help there.
[19:20] <tomreyn> *initrm
[19:20] <Bashing-om> tomreyn: I would hate to find out the hard way on another's system that the ability to boot is lost . Still have access via the recovery console ?
[19:21] <tomreyn> you can just remove the paramerters from grub.
[19:22] <tomreyn> all i got on normal boot was a blank screen, all i got on recovery was grub printing that is it loading linux, then loading the inirtd. and there it got stuck.
[19:22] <tomreyn> and IIRC ctrl-alt-del didnt work
[19:23] <tomreyn> so i had forgotten that i had put the acpi_osi stuff there (i also had it on the recovery kernels, silly me)
[19:24] <tomreyn> and so i thought it would have to do something with initrd, since this was the last line printed on screen. so i had booted from a live usb and looked into the initrd's i've got
[19:24] <tomreyn> and noticed they were not comproessed (according to GNU file)
[19:24] <tomreyn> and when expanded with cpio, contained only one file
[19:25] <tomreyn> it's still this way now. on the same system, where i booted from this initrd fine.
[19:25] <tomreyn> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mbZKvWfMzz/
[19:25] <tomreyn> obviously i'm not getting how initrd works nowadays.
[19:27] <tomreyn> this is 16.04 with hwe-edge
[19:27] <Bashing-om> tomreyn: Naw .. nothing silly at all :) .. Me too gone round and round with minor ACPI issues in this ole desktop ( ex-file server _ I make my notes in the grub file when I make a change ! // and yeah .. lots has changed with systemd as the init system .. ouch .. lots of homework to do .
[19:29] <tomreyn> it would help trmendously is not all of the documentation was outdated
[19:29] <Bashing-om> tomreyn: in respect to the paste and the -25 kernel .. I have seen a lot of bug reports on this particular kernel .. and it has not been released for cosmic to this time .
[19:30] <tomreyn> it's not just the -25, the others are the same
[19:30] <tomreyn> also 4.4.0-130
[19:34] <tomreyn> so my guess is that the initrd files actually consist of multiple joined archives
[19:39] <Bashing-om> tomreyn: Have not had cause to look at initrd.img in ages . Just do not recall .. Iffen ya want I do have a 16.04 install I can boot into if ya want me to see what my results are .
[19:40] <tomreyn> Bashing-om: thanks, bit no need. i compared to another 16.04 already, it's the same.
[19:40] <tomreyn> and it works. i just dont understand how. but i'll learn.
[19:42] <Bashing-om> tomreyn: ^ what keeps us out of the bars at night :P
[19:47] <tomreyn> that, and soccer
[19:48] <tomreyn> or rather *some* people reacting to soccer
[20:44] <tomreyn> binwalk to the rescue! https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MQ296gq7RQ/
[20:45] <daftykins> hmm what's that showing, the 'trailer' bit suggest it's a bad file?
[20:45] <tomreyn> so the gzip in the end contains the actual initrd, plus it has (in my case) two microcode files attached in front off it
[20:45] <tomreyn> TRAILER!!! is just a mark to make it easier to tell where in this large blob the next part starts
[20:47] <tomreyn> so basically one would need to count the number of trailers, and check their addresses, then dd these parts into separate files, and handle each of them (the microcodes with cpio, the gzip with ... gunzip)
[20:48] <tomreyn> and the gzip is the main part, the one which contains most of the files and the init script
[20:49] <tomreyn> yours will look the same, though youmight not have both (or any of) the microcodes prepended.
[21:03] <lotuspsychje> good night to all
[21:03] <daftykins> \o
[21:03] <lotuspsychje> hey daftykins
[21:34] <tomreyn> unmkinitramfs(8), as provided by bionic's initramfs-tools, is the tool to use there http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man8/unmkinitramfs.8.html
[21:35] <lotuspsychje> hey tomreyn
[21:36] <tomreyn> hey lotuspsychje
[21:37] <tomreyn> shouldnt you be going out, enjoing your life and stuff?
[21:37] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: i was trying to sleep, but the heat doesnt leave our house anymore
[21:37] <tomreyn> credit to Mr. (CJ)Watson to the above
[21:38] <lotuspsychje> besides, whats better then irc green on black?
[21:38] <lotuspsychje> hey hfp-
[21:38] <tomreyn> you could do what i did, add random kernel parameters to your system and forgot about it, reboot, and panic.
[21:39] <tomreyn> i mean human panic, not kernel panic
[21:40]  * lotuspsychje is calculating tomreyn's information......
[21:40] <lotuspsychje> .........nothing found
[21:40] <tomreyn> :-/
[21:41] <tomreyn> am i producing too much output? i'll tune it down, coming to a rest now.
[21:41] <lotuspsychje> still trying to figure out what life has to do human panic :p
[21:42] <lotuspsychje> seems like it deep joke night tonight
[21:42] <tomreyn> oh, didnt get that one
[21:43] <lotuspsychje> nvm im bit in the twilight zone
[21:44] <tomreyn> is it so hot in .be today? i'm in .be%00rlin, not too hot today, not much sun
[21:44] <lotuspsychje> yeah whole week 27+
[21:44] <tomreyn> yesterday it was unbearable here, too
[21:45] <lotuspsychje> at the morning i open garden door, works for like 1h then warms up again
[21:45] <tomreyn> make some clouds tomorrow, they helped here
[21:45] <tomreyn> moar chemtrails needed!!11
[21:45] <lotuspsychje> lol
[21:46] <lotuspsychje> more HAARP
[21:46] <lotuspsychje> and more transhumanism
[21:46] <tomreyn> whats HAARP, i read that before
[21:47] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: that weather war machine from alaska
[21:47] <lotuspsychje> tomreyn: it can influence the weather
[21:47] <tomreyn> oh, looks like i missed something exciting
[21:47] <lotuspsychje> yeah if you like chemtrails, worth to lookup :p
[21:48] <tomreyn> so far i only knew the russians had a programme like this, to have nice military marches
[21:48] <lotuspsychje> contras will say its impossible, pros even say when vulcano activity rises, haarp activity rises at same times
[21:49] <tomreyn> that sounds like nonsense :)
[21:50] <tomreyn> looks like i missed a relevant conspiracy theory there, thanks for the hint
[21:50] <lotuspsychje> alot of things sounding as nonsense als got true years after
[21:51] <tomreyn> climate change? ;)
[21:52] <lotuspsychje> who knows whats the bigger plan of those who have money to influence
[21:53] <lotuspsychje> from nature i dont trust big orgs or govs..
[21:54] <tomreyn> being sceptic there is surely wise.
[21:54] <tomreyn> *sceptical
[21:55] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[22:08] <lotuspsychje> !info pv
[22:08] <lotuspsychje> yeah think that was it ducasse daftykins
[23:59] <Bashing-om> tomreyn: "sure to decive for yourself what's "the best""" . I thought - given the circumstance .. was quite apt to say "decieve" :)