[21:06] <slon2000ru_> oh please help me how i can resolve my problem, when i made #make all i got this  http://paste.ubuntu.com/262696/
[21:07] <sebsebseb> hi
[21:07] <Damianz> Hi, after upting Jaunty I am getting the following errors http://pastebin.com/d649d170d this has broken quite a few programs and prevents me from performing any furthur updates. Any advice?
[21:07] <Mean_Admin> I asked to archive a dir and  it's been idling on a file for over a minute now   [sender] make_file(004 Card Drump/101KC613/101_0087.JPG,*,2)
[21:08] <user____> then I thought it's maybe because of the missing directories cannot be removed and that gives error, so I thought about reinstalling it, where all these directories should be created agin, but then running 'seamonkey' in terminal simply doesn't open anything
[21:08] <Mean_Admin> what am I to make of this ?
[21:09] <Vinceman> how do I get the source code of the repos programs?
[21:10] <mimitam> test
[21:12] <fbianconi> Vinceman: I guess from the deb-src repos; copy the line in sources.list and change deb for deb-src
[21:13] <peturIngi> Hi im installing VirtualBox on Ubuntu 9 server... for it to work i also must install the kernel header files.. i do all this via apt-get .... will virtualbox stop working once the system updates its kernel?
[21:14] <slon2000ru_> oh so i never install drivers for my lan card :(((((
[21:14] <fbianconi> Vinceman: then you can use afaik apt-get source <pkg-name-here>
[21:15] <ejv> peturIngi: you'll need to run the configuration program again
[21:15] <bluesscream> peturlngi:It will be automatic updated by dkms
[21:16] <zaggynl> http://pastebin.com/m4bcb3a24 anyone here got foobar2000 working with wine?
[21:16] <hattmakarN> hello everyone, someone who would mind helping me with a failed install of ubuntu on my laptop?
[21:16] <ejv> im pretty sure vbox operates like vmware in that regard, where a kernel update requires reconfiguration....
[21:16] <mzuverink> in apace2 what is the command to enable userdir from the the users public_html?
[21:17] <mzuverink> apache2
[21:18] <ale_> hello
[21:18] <mzuverink> What is the command to enable userdir in apache2?
[21:18] <fbianconi> hattmakarN: just describe your problem
[21:18] <ale_> im having a problem with my linux can someone lend me a hand?
[21:18] <KB1JWQ> ale_: What's your issue?
[21:18] <ejv> !ask
[21:18] <larry101> why can't i see my camera or get video on skype thanks in advance for your help
[21:18] <ale_> looks like my taskbar is missing
[21:19] <ale_> maybe i deactivated it accidentally
[21:20] <ale_> and i dont know how to put it back
[21:20] <ejv> mzuverink: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/howto/public_html.html
[21:20] <hattmakarN> I installed 9.04 without any problems, and rebooted. Then my keyboard and touch pad didn't respond. And I can't boot from the USB I made.
[21:21] <larry101> can someone help me i can't  see my camera on the cmputer
[21:21] <fbianconi> ale_: open execute dialog (Alt-F2) and execute "killall gnome-panel"
[21:21] <ale_> mmm ok
[21:21] <ale_> i will try and tell you
[21:23] <hattmakarN> anyone has an idea of what my problem might be? :/
[21:23] <ale_> nothing seems to happen, i still have my desk with only icons
[21:23] <ale_> and no taskbar at all
[21:24] <fbianconi>  ale_: ok now execute 'gnome-panel'
[21:24] <d_b> I'm looking for a VoIP solution. I'd prefer something free instead of Skype, and I'll be using it to talk to a windows user. Is there a jabber client with mature Jingle support out there? Is Ekiga a better idea? Or something else?
[21:25] <ale_> nothing happens fbianconi
[21:27] <ale_> hablas español fbianconi?
[21:27] <ale_> o alguien que hable español
[21:27] <trism> d_b: I read that pidgin recently added jabber/google talk video and voice support, might want to check that out
[21:27] <idleone_> !es | ale_
[21:27] <Pizik> When I login to Ubuntu 8.10 my internet connection grinds away, I think it is APT-Cache doing it, anyone any idea how to stop it?
[21:27] <ale_> a bueno
[21:28] <ale_> i can talk english so no problem
[21:28] <trism> d_b: haven't tried it yet myself, not in the repos yet and I'm lazy
[21:28] <behappy> Hello why lynx don't accept rewrite redirection ?
[21:28] <behappy> !lynx
[21:30] <trism> behappy: may want to try elinks instead, it seems to do redirects fine
[21:31] <d_b> trism: hm, I'm googling but all I can find is complaints about it not being a feature :)
[21:31] <trism> d_b: it was apparently added in 2.6
[21:31] <ramvi> I'm having an kernel on livecd (on usb) problem. I'm not able to boot and I'm not getting enough text on the screen to debug. Is it possible to have ubuntu push the log on the memory stick?
[21:35] <trism> d_b: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/08/19/2128210/Pidgin-Adds-Google-Talk-Voice-and-Video-Support-and-a-Vulnerability
[21:36] <arand> ramvi: you could use a vga=xxx kernel flag to get a larger scrollback?
[21:36] <ramvi> arand: I only get 800x600 and 640x... option, and the screen goes black with 800
[21:36] <Vinceman> how long does it usually take to untar tarballs?
[21:37] <jez> I'm having severe DNS problems in Ubuntu
[21:37] <hattmakarN> someone know why my keyboard and touchpad doesn't respond after installing 9.04 on my laptop? :/
[21:37] <jez> for some reason suddenly my DNS is resolving only a few hostnames
[21:37] <thepunkification> alguien habla español?
[21:37] <jez> any idea how i can diagnose WTF the problem is?
[21:37] <ramvi> Vinceman: depends on the size. Most tarballs only take 10 sec
[21:37] <trism> Vinceman: depends on the size of the archive and the speed of your computer
[21:37] <Slart> Vinceman: <---------> this long.. (not to scale)
[21:37] <d_b> trism: thanks
[21:38] <di||itante> ls
[21:38] <di||itante> oops
[21:38] <Slart> Vinceman: I would say it's comparable to unzipping or unraring in other os's
[21:38] <extor> Anyone here using the tyan 3289 IPMI cards?
[21:39] <boss_mc> jez: try dig <hostname you can't resolve>
[21:39] <fbianconi> Vinceman: in my machine like 10 sec every 100MB (if not gzipped)
[21:39] <Guest44340> alguien en español
[21:39] <thiebaude> !es
[21:40] <boss_mc> Vinceman: if it's just a .tar (not a .tar.gz/.tar.bz) then it should be as fast as copying the file
[21:40] <jez> boss_mc: hmm, status: SERVFAIL is in there
[21:40] <Vinceman> I did -x instead of -xvvf
[21:40] <boss_mc> Vinceman: you need -xf (f is file name)
[21:40] <boss_mc> Vinceman: sa it is, it's waiting for the file in stdin
[21:40] <boss_mc> *as
[21:41] <boss_mc> jez: can you pastebin the output?
[21:43] <jez> boss_mc: paste.ubuntu.com/262725
[21:45] <boss_mc> jez: try dig ns1.google.com <hostname>
[21:46] <teehee> hey i am using deluge and i have opened ports in my router but dont work with ubuntu, i was wondering if i had to do anything with iptables i have firestarter but i turned that off
[21:46] <jez> boss_mc: paste.ubuntu.com/262727
[21:46] <boss_mc> jez: or dig <IP_ADDRESS> <hostname>
[21:47] <Guest75651> Hi all.
[21:48] <nannes> Hi Guest75651
[21:48] <boss_mc> jez: that's weird... it finds the other nameserver but then still fails to get the ip address, (it works for me)
[21:48] <Guest75651> I'm running an HP Pavilion dv6000 laptop with a Realtek ALC268 soundcard.
[21:48] <jez> :-*(
[21:48] <Guest75651> My sound won't work now, but it did before.
[21:48] <Guest75651> I'm running Jaunty.
[21:48] <Guest75651> Any help?
[21:48] <nannes> Guest75651: switch nick command ----> /nick MYNICK
[21:48] <joooe> question: is there a way to make gnome run a specific command when a specific device is plugged in? i want to do a rsync every time my external drive is plugged in, and udev doesn't seem to be suitable for this...
[21:49] <jez> boss_mc: any ideas?...
[21:49] <JRO> Okay, any help? Sound was fine before, now it died.
[21:50] <boss_mc> jez: you've not got weird firewall settings up?
[21:50] <boss_mc> !pulse| this might help.... JRO
[21:50] <JRO> ok
[21:50] <boss_mc> JRO actually, that's well outof date, I wrote a new factoid but it's been rejected/delayed...
[21:50] <jez> boss_mc: ahh.. I had Firestarter running... and when i turned it off it works
[21:50] <jez> weird.
[21:51] <teehee>  hey i am using deluge and i have opened ports in my router but dont work with ubuntu, i was wondering if i had to do anything with iptables i have firestarter but i turned that off
[21:51] <boss_mc> jez: its possibly blocking outgoing requests? or incoming replies?
[21:51] <mycomputer> any software to connedct internet automatically
[21:51] <JRO> I don't understand what happened, though. ALSA worked fine with my hardware, now it doesn't.
[21:51] <jez> it's not meant to be blocking anything, i used it to allow ICS from the linux box
[21:52] <hattmakarN> Hey I installed 9.04 without any problems, and rebooted. Then my keyboard and touch pad didn't respond. And I can't boot from the USB I made. any thoughts?
[21:52] <boss_mc> jez: the default settings for firestarter are block all (I mean ALL)
[21:52] <boss_mc> hattmakarN: corrupt usb image
[21:53] <ari5av> I'm looking for a text editor that deals well with RTL and LTR text.  vim is my primary choice, but it doesn't like intertwined LTR and RTL.  emacs also doesn't work.  I need, basically, to have an editor that I can use for xml, but with hebrew-language data
[21:53] <mycomputer> any software to connect internet automatically
[21:53] <hattmakarN> but, its the same one i used to install, and I redid the USB thing, then tried to boot, but didnt work at all, just boots directly to the login screen
[21:54] <idleone_> mycomputer: connect how?
[21:54] <ari5av> hattmakarN: you installed from a cd?
[21:54] <cached> why is ubuntu updater telling me i need to install ubuntu-desktop if i installed ubuntu with gnome from the start and never removed it?
[21:54] <cached> (install, not update)
[21:55] <idleone_> cached: perhaps some other package removed it somehow
[21:55] <cached> idleone_: gnome is still working
[21:55] <hattmakarN> no, didn't have any free cd's so i loaded up a USB stick, have done that many times before, bu this is the first time it has caused me any trouble :/
[21:55] <mycomputer> idleone: if net connection is disconnected it should connect automatically
[21:55] <dalton_> hello
[21:55] <dalton_> french ?
[21:55] <dalton_> fuck
[21:55] <ikonia> !fr > dalton_
[21:55] <ikonia> !language > dalton_
[21:56] <dalton_> zdajgraersdfeazd
[21:56] <idleone_> cached: ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package, it doesn't actually install anything ( just a list of packages needed ) removing it is safe but can cause issues when upgrading to new version of ubuntu
[21:56] <dalton_> zdafuihnejiazhsd
[21:56] <ari5av> nice
[21:56] <idleone_> cached: go ahead and install it and no worries :)
[21:56] <cached> idleone_: ah
[21:56] <cached> idleone_: thanks
[21:57] <ari5av> still looking for an RTL-friendly text editor.  anyone?
[21:58] <mycomputer> any software to connect internet automatically when it is disconnected?
[21:59] <gronlund> I'm wondering what to do with my 1.4 ghz laptop, I find ubuntu abit heavy, is there anyway to cut down on resource use?
[21:59] <IdleOne> !xubuntu | gronlund
[21:59] <ari5av> gronlund: xubuntu
[21:59] <ari5av> edit: beaten
[21:59] <guntbert> mycomputer: please explain your problem
[21:59] <Paragor> Is there a way to check what my graphics card is in Ubuntu like in windows?
[22:00] <micr0x> hello folks
[22:00] <micr0x> What's a fast flv to mp4 converter?
[22:00] <Paragor> I have an Intel intergrated that im trying to update the graphics for. anyone know how I would figure out exactly what it is?
[22:00] <ari5av> Paragor: lspci
[22:01] <ari5av> and to see what drivers are loaded, chech lsmod
[22:01] <ari5av> you may need to be root for it
[22:01] <ari5av> still looking for an RTL-friendly text editor.  anyone?
[22:01] <mycomputer> guntbert: if i put download and sleep net is disconneted and not downloading i need a software to reconnect it automatically
[22:01] <ari5av> mycomputer: system -> administration -> power management
[22:02] <Slart> ari5av: isn't gedit RTL friendly?
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[22:02] <thiebaude> yo
[22:02] <teehee> why do ports always show closed even if i forward them to the right ip
[22:02] <jtrenchard> wtaf?
[22:02] <ari5av> Slart: sadly, no.  hebrew text shows up as LTR, which looks backwards to me :D
[22:02] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip, haven't heard that in a while
[22:02] <Graubart> #ubuntu-de+1
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: heard what?
[22:02] <Vinceman> what's the difference between suspend and hibernate?
[22:02] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip, yo yo yo
[22:03] <ari5av> suspend switches you to low-power mode
[22:03] <Slart> ari5av: hmm.. you've tried scite? Editra? Mousepad?
[22:03] <Vegancheesesteak> i was looking for a recommendation...im planning on running 8.04LTS server...i would like a raid mirror solution.  does it support nvidia raid or should i look to linux software raid or another solution? Thanks.
[22:03] <ari5av> hibernate writes your memory to hdd and powers off
[22:03] <mrchrisadams> hi guys, I'm trying to help someone remotely who's using ubuntu netbook remix -
[22:03] <guntbert> mycomputer: network manager usually reconnects - but if you hibernate/ssupend your computer it cannot download anything
[22:03] <ari5av> Slart: scite's an interesting idea, I'll check it out
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Vegancheesesteak: check the hcl, i believe it will be fine
[22:03] <Vinceman> ari5av you mean if I turn on my PC it'll be exactly the same as it was?
[22:03] <mycomputer> ari5av: for wjat
[22:03] <ari5av> and those others as well, they have source highlighting?
[22:03] <mycomputer> ari5av: for what?
[22:03] <ari5av> Vinceman: assuming no unforseen circumstances
[22:04] <Vegancheesesteak> ActionParsnip: hcl is the linux software raid?
[22:04] <lucas__> hey
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> !hcl| Vegancheesesteak
[22:04] <lucas__> i took an error from seahorse agent
[22:04] <lucas__> when i click report program
[22:04] <teehee>    why do ports always show closed even if i forward them to the right ip
[22:04] <lucas__> i took that message The problem cannot be reported:
[22:04] <lucas__> The program crashed on an assertion failure, but the message could not be retrieved. Apport does not support reporting these crashes
[22:04] <Slart> ari5av: Editra has.. not sure about mousepad.. I think mousepad is the gedit alternative in xfce so it might be a bit on the simple side
[22:04] <mycomputer> guntbert: if we use torrentz it will automatically downloads
[22:05] <guntbert> mycomputer: but not in hibernation/suspend
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> teehee: i can test if you like?
[22:05] <nannes> Booting from USB ------> ata1: softreset failed (device not ready)
[22:05] <nannes> any idea?
[22:05] <teehee> what do u mean test
[22:05] <Davishow> Como usa isso?
[22:05] <Vegancheesesteak> ActionParsnip: it does not seem to recognize the raid array
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> teehee: i can attemot to connect to the port
[22:06] <mycomputer> guntbert: that means i cant understand
[22:06] <IdleOne> !es | Davishow
[22:06] <teehee> ok how
[22:06] <ari5av> Davishow: ¿español?
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> !raid | Vegancheesesteak
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> teehee: well i'll need the port number you are using
[22:06] <ari5av> IdleOne: I think it might be italian.
[22:06] <teehee> 51413
[22:07] <Davishow> es español
[22:07] <zefyx> Hi, I have two MX records listed for my DNS control panel. However, when I lookup my MX record only one shows up. Is this normal? Both have the same priority.
[22:07] <MoosEsooM> hi everybody
[22:07] <sebsebseb> !es |  Davishow
[22:07] <Vegancheesesteak> ActionParsnip: thank you
[22:07] <IdleOne> Davishow: entonces /join #ubuntu-es
[22:07] <joooe> question: is there a way to make gnome run a specific command when a specific device is plugged in? i want to do a rsync every time my external drive is plugged in, and udev doesn't seem to be suitable for this....
[22:07] <MoosEsooM> anybody else in here with openopenoffice crashing after today updates? (openoffice 3.01 / intrepid)
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> teehee: im getting no connection
[22:08] <teehee> alright what about 9935
[22:08] <teehee> or 6881-6889
[22:08] <teehee> or how do u test it
[22:08] <chris|> joooe, why not?
[22:08] <lucas__> hey
[22:08] <zefyx> Hi, I have two MX records listed for my DNS control panel. However, when I lookup my MX record only one shows up. Is this normal? Both have the same priority.
[22:08] <lucas__> i have acer crystal web cam
[22:08] <lucas__> i have acer aspire 5720g
[22:09] <lucas__> how can i meet my web cam to system
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> teehee: i'm telnetting. yuo can connect to any listening port with telnet. its a great way to test services
[22:09] <ari5av> Slart: scite doesn't have RTL support at all, sadly :(
[22:09] <OFN> hi. when i transfer files from windows 7 to ubuntu 9.04 via network the copied files get tagged as they are owned by root. is there anyway i can automatically make them mine?
[22:09] <teehee> telnet? that s a new term
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> lucas__: if you run: lsusb   you will get an 8 didgit ID which you can websearch for
[22:09] <nannes> Booting from USB ------> ata1: softreset failed (device not ready)
[22:09] <nannes> any idea?
[22:10] <ari5av> OFN: chown yourname:yourname <files>
[22:10] <IdleOne> teehee: telnet is a very old term
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> teehee: it probably older than you are
[22:10] <joooe> chris: i made a script for it, and it just didn't work... the script is defenitely run when the device is plugged in, and i also tested the command, but it doesn't work...
[22:10] <thiebaude> !telnet
[22:10] <Slart> ari5av: oh.. to bad.. I couldn't really find anything in Editra either.. but I don't have any RTL languages enabled in my ubuntu so I'm not sure if something pops up if you have rtl
[22:10] <mrchrisadams> hi guys - whats the simplest way to boot a eee pc on jaunty netbook remix in safemode?
[22:10] <joooe> chris: the command is correct
[22:10] <mrchrisadams> I'm trying to troubleshoot for someone
[22:10] <ari5av> I just have gnome set up to type in hebrew when I hit a certain key combination
[22:10] <lucas__> ActionParsnip,  Bus 002 Device 003: ID 5986:0102 Acer, Inc Crystal Eye Webcam
[22:10] <teehee> wait is telnet not safe or just a legal issue
[22:10] <MrUnagi> !x11
[22:10] <dave43rg4g> if there are any chsarp / web developers here, consider the following post http://go-mono.com/forums/#nabble-td25230391
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> teehee: on port 6882 im told the connection was refused
[22:11] <ari5av> I wonder if there's anything kde can give me...
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> lucas__: ok there is your info, go websearching
[22:11] <MrUnagi> is it possible to have multipple displays, but the secondary display is remote over the network?
[22:11] <OFN> ari5av, thanks. don't know what chown does, but i'll give it a try
[22:11] <lucas__> okey
[22:11] <ari5av> OFN: it changes the owner of the file(s)
[22:11] <Slart> teehee: not safe as in passwords sent in cleartext... I think
[22:11] <ari5av> for more information, open a terminal and type man chown
[22:11] <ari5av> which sounds weird, but it's the manual page on it
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> Slart: yep but it can connect to ny port so is dead handy
[22:12] <teehee> ohh that explains a lot it worked a while ago now it doesnt but whats the difference between ssh and telnet
[22:12] <Slart> ActionParsnip: yes.. great for troubleshooting mail servers and whatnot... just not for.. well.. telnet =)
[22:12] <joooe> question: is there a way to make gnome run a specific command when a specific device is plugged in? i want to do a rsync every time my external drive is plugged in, and udev doesn't seem to be suitable for this.... any ideas?
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> teehee: ssh uses key pairs to provide encyption
[22:13] <alumno01> hi
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> Slart: exactly, we use it to test citrix servers and web servers
[22:13] <teehee> oh just security kind of
[22:13] <alumno01> i have a problem with printing in openoffice writer
[22:13] <Slart> joooe: I'm a bit surprised that udev isn't suitable.. that's what I would have tried
[22:13] <nannes> Booting from USB drive ------> ata1: softreset failed (device not ready)
[22:13] <nannes> any idea?
[22:13] <nannes> Booting from USB ------> ata1: softreset failed (device not ready)
[22:13] <nannes> any idea?
[22:13] <ari5av> still looking for an RTL-friendly text editor (not vim, emacs, or scite).  anyone?
[22:13] <teehee> but how can i find out what ports to use
[22:13] <nannes> ops sorry I posted 2 times
[22:13] <alumno01> the upper margin configuration doesnt take effect
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> teehee: plus ssh gives a whole lot of extras than just a text input to a remote system
[22:14] <teehee> cool, i do learn everyday huh
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> teehee: netstat -a
[22:14] <ari5av> :o
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> ari5av: leafpad maybe
[22:14] <ari5av> leafpad?
[22:14] <teehee> wait what does that mean
[22:14] <IdleOne> !ops | jtrenchard ( quit message )
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> teehee: its a terminal command
[22:14] <teehee> ok
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> !info leafpad | ari5av
[22:15] <jtrenchard> i am a cunt
[22:15] <ari5av> siiiick, nice, thanks
[22:15] <ari5av> !language | jtrenchard
[22:15] <teehee> do i use the numbers it says after my ip
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> i bet s/he's single
[22:15] <IdleOne> thank you Myrtti
[22:15] <OFN> ari5av, do i have to type that every time i transfer files? i have mapped a folder named "import" on my ubuntu-pc which is for torrents. i want utorrent to auto-load the files from that directory, but it won't do that as long as the files are owned by root...
[22:16] <mikunos1> hi guys
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> teehee: the numbers after the colon are the port numbers
[22:16] <joooe> Slart: i did the following: i added a rule in /etc/udev/rules.d to run a shellscript which calls rsync when the device is plugged in. the shell script works when called normally, and the rule also works... but not with rsync...
[22:16] <teehee> okey dokey makes sense i ll try it out
[22:16] <mikunos1> I have found some difficulties to install Ubuntu on a asus laptop
[22:16] <ari5av> OFN: there's a recursive option.  chown -R ofn:ofn <files>  <--- assuming your username is ofn
[22:16] <mikunos1> I get this error https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/285392
[22:16] <ari5av> yay leafpad does it!
[22:16] <mikunos1> does anybody help me?
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> ari5av: leafpad is awesome, small and damn fast
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> !ask | mikunos1
[22:17] <ari5av> ActionParsnip: just missing syntax highlighting, but who cares
[22:17] <ari5av> yayayay thxu :D
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> ari5av: thats why its faster for one
[22:17] <OFN> ari5av, okay, thanks
[22:18] <Slart> joooe: oh.. no error message? or it just doesn't run?
[22:18] <mikunos1> I need to install Ubuntu on a ASUS laptop but I get this error:  ata1:Softreset failed (device not ready)
[22:18] <ari5av> OFN: learn to love the manpages too.  I learn twice as much from RTFMing as I do from asking around, it's amazing
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> mikunos1: is trhat when you boot the CD?#
[22:18] <joooe> i don't know how to get the output... (my bad)
[22:18] <ari5av> most commands have man pages, just type man <command>
[22:18] <mikunos1> ActionParsnip when I start a usb installation
[22:18] <Slart> joooe: well.. I would look in /var/log/syslog
[22:19] <joooe> ok...
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> mikunos1: did you md5 check the file you downloaded?
[22:19] <Slart> joooe: you can run "tail -f /var/log/syslog" and then unplug and plug in the hard drive
[22:19] <mikunos1> ActionParsnip yes of course
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> mikunos1: you'd be suprised
[22:19] <joooe> Slart: ok...
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> mikunos1: many users dont then are astounded when their install fails
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> mikunos1: ok have you tried some boot options?
[22:20] <jdr> hello how do i get libdbus-glib onto my machine?
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> !info libdbus-glib
[22:21] <mikunos1> what have I do?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> jdr: apt-cache search libdbus
[22:21] <alumno01> Hi, when i print with open office writer the upper margin configuration doesnt take effect and the document prints with upper margin 0
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | mikunos1
[22:21] <Slart> !info libdbus-glib-1-2
[22:21] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: libdbus-glib-1-2
[22:21] <wildmadsci> Problem: Multiple logged in users causes problem, slows.
[22:21] <wildmadsci> I have used and installed Ubuntu numerous times, but recently I installed it on my family's home computer. It appears that when multiple users are logged on, even if they are not running any processes, the computer occasionally slows to a crawl. Switching users also is buggy, either taking a long time, or hangs on a black screen, or apparently (according to my sister) the desktop background for half the screen.
[22:21] <wildmadsci> Does anyone have any ideas why this is so?
[22:21] <FloodBot3> wildmadsci: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:22] <OFN> ari5av, sure, but i'm not too familiar with the commands in ubuntu as i is the noob :-)
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> wildmadsci: if they do not log off but only switch user, the processes are still running
[22:22] <mikunos1> ActionParsnip the problem is that it doesn't start
[22:22] <ari5av> oh that's all right, you learn by doing
[22:22] <mikunos1> I cannot see the main menu
[22:23] <wildmadsci> I mean simply that they have nothing up, as in not really running any programs
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> mikunos1: so you dont get the language selector and the option to install ubuntu
[22:23] <ari5av> I wrote a bash one-liner this morning that would still have me sitting there typing out commands if I hadn't done it
[22:23] <alumno01> Hi, when i print with open office writer the upper margin configuration doesnt take effect and the document prints with upper margin 0
[22:23] <mikunos1> ActionParsnip yes I don't
[22:23] <ari5av> on a related note, I hate perforce.
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> mikunos1: i'd fsck the stick and/or recopy the data to it
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> wildmadsci: how much ram does the system have?
[22:24] <wildmadsci> it's an old computer, 256MB
[22:24] <mikunos1> ActionParsnip do u think that the problem is located on the USB pen drive?
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> mikunos1: yes as its not booting right. You cant even run the memory test as it wont boot
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> mikunos1: could try disabling device s in bios too
[22:25] <mikunos1> ActionParsnip but the same pen drive works in another PC
[22:25] <mikunos1> yes done too
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> wildmadsci: i wouldnt use switch user with tat amount of ram as you have just enough to run ubuntu properly
[22:25] <SealedWithAKiss> I have a problem, with nautilus. It isn't working. http://pastebin.ca/1549663
[22:26] <mikunos1> If I disable other devices I get the following error: Reboot and select proper Boot device
[22:26] <wildmadsci> I see. Thank you ActionParsnip.
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> SealedWithAKiss: you dont run nautilus with sudo
[22:26] <mikunos1> ActionParsnip why it works well in another laptop
[22:26] <mmonlsd> _Julian-de,  von wo?
[22:26] <mikunos1> and not in the ASUS laptop
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> SealedWithAKiss: use gksudo, sudo is NOT for GUI apps
[22:26] <wildmadsci> However, Windows XP ran decently well under the same conditions, I just thought perhaps Ubuntu would perform better, ah well
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> mikunos1: maybe its some hardware making it bork then if it works in other systems it is ok
[22:27] <jdr> ActionParsnip, got it thanks a lot
[22:27] <joooe> Slart: nothing to see in syslog...
[22:27] <mikunos1> yes maybe
[22:28] <mikunos1> so what do I have to do?
[22:28] <mikunos1> sorry my english is really bad
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> mikunos1: access the bios and disable unnecessary hardware
[22:28] <mikunos1> already done
[22:28] <Einherjer> Learning Ubuntu is difficult, is there any site were i can read and learn the basics, you know installing stuff, commands in the terminal and stuff?
[22:28] <teehee> how come after it shows a few ports and stuff then goes to a huge list of stuff with ports and stuff but no ip address or semi colons
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> Einherjer: jsu websearch what you need to know when you need to know it
[22:29] <Slart> joooe: hmm.. what happens if you just put a "echo It worked > /tmp/testfile" in the udev script? the file gets created?
[22:29] <MrUnagi> anyone know of a way to have multiple displays, but the secondary being a remote display over the network?
[22:29] <IdleOne> !wiki > Einherjer
[22:29] <alumno01> Hi, when i print with open office writer the upper margin configuration doesnt take effect and the document prints with upper margin 0
[22:29] <q__> .
[22:29] <thiebaude> Einherjer, search for ubuntu pocket guide
[22:30] <teehee> ActionParsnip: how come after it shows a few ports and stuff then goes to a huge list of stuff with ports and stuff but no ip address or semi colons
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: you'd set up a dualhead system then use some technology to show the desktop of the other system. Why do you need the full desktop of the remote system?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> teehee: not sure
[22:31] <mikunos1> ActionParsnip the  softreset failed error persist
[22:31] <teehee> i there any other way
[22:31] <mikunos1> how can I solve this problem?
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: you will find 99% of the time it is extremely surplus and what is being performed can be done with a more graceful solution
[22:31] <MrUnagi> i dont need a full desktop per se, id like to set it up so that my old laptop server can display a secondary display to this laptop, so that i can put images on it from over the network
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> mikunos1: have you read any guides regarding ubuntu and yuo make/model?
[22:32] <mikunos1> in a website I have read that I can disable the ata module
[22:32] <mikunos1> not yet
[22:32] <joooe> Slart: it worked.
[22:32] <teehee> whats port triggering do i have to adjust that too
[22:32] <squidly> how do I check to see what version of a package is installed?
[22:32] <MrUnagi> ActionParsnip: any ideas?
[22:32] <bastidraZor> squidly: apt-cache policy packagename
[22:32] <squidly> bastidraZor: ty
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: so like a slideshow on the remote systems display?
[22:32] <Resistol> anyone here know how to setup uvnc with sc?
[22:32] <MrUnagi> not really......a live secondary display to this pc
[22:33] <Slart> joooe: ok.. so the script is indeed run.. do you know if it's run as root? or as some kind of special user? who owns that testfile?
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: but for what end? Is it for presentations or for media playing?
[22:33] <joooe> Slart: the testfile is owned by root
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: most apps have web interfaces or can be easily configured using ssh or even x forwarding
[22:34] <Slart> joooe: does your script work when it's run as root?
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> MrUnagi: a full desktop is very rarely necessary
[22:34] <joooe> Slart: i'll try it
[22:34] <SealedWithAKiss> When I try to move a folder from /Desktop/ to /usr/share/amsn/skins I get a permission denied error, how come?
[22:34] <SealedWithAKiss> ActionParsnip, thanks for your last answer.
[22:35] <Einherjer> I downloaded the Ubuntu pocket book PDF, it appeard in my downlad list, but not anywere else, not on the desktop. Were do i find it?
[22:35] <SealedWithAKiss> ActionParsnip, regarding nautilus.
[22:35] <guntbert> SealedWithAKiss: ordinary users don't have write permissions beneath /usr
[22:35] <thiebaude> Einherjer, where did you save it to?
[22:35] <tisepti> what is the best channel to for questions on making .deb packages?
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> SealedWithAKiss: same with all apps that use X, sudo is not for gui apps and you WILL brewak file ownerships by using sudo
[22:36] <Einherjer> I just clicked save as i ordniarily do
[22:36] <Einherjer> Normaly it appears on my desktop
[22:36] <Einherjer> Not after i resently uppgraded thought
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> SealedWithAKiss: you can use sudo cp ~/Desktop/<whatever> /usr/share/amsn/skins/ too
[22:37] <thiebaude> Einherjer, you using firefox?
[22:37] <guntbert> SealedWithAKiss: so try (in terminal) sudo mv Desktop/<folder> /usr/share/amsn/skins
[22:37] <teehee> can i use ssh to connect to a port or something
[22:37] <Einherjer> Yes, im using firefox
[22:37] <brynjarh> for some reason g++3.4 isn't in the jaunty repositories, is it available from somewhere else?
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> !info gcc
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> !info g++
[22:37] <thiebaude> Einherjer, go into the firefox settings and see if you have save to the desktop
[22:38] <Einherjer> ok
[22:38] <joooe> Slart: the script obviously doesn't run as root
[22:38] <guntbert> Einherjer: open (in FF) the downloads page, right click on the file name and select "open containig folder"
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> brynjarh: if its a diffent version you can add a PPA with the different version in and install from that
[22:38] <hugo1> Hi I'm known on the forums as terabyte1
[22:39] <Einherjer> I tried, it directed me to the desktop, but it wasn't there
[22:39] <Slart> joooe: ok.. any suspicion why? you're not using relative links to your home folder?
[22:39] <thiebaude> Einherjer, i would save it to Home
[22:39] <brynjarh> ActionParsnip: how do I get the right PPA repository? or any PPA repository for that matter.
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> brynjarh: you can webseartch or use: http://ppa-search.appspot.com/
[22:40] <joooe> Slart: rsync: readlink_stat("/home/joe/.gvfs") failed: Permission denied (13) - I think that's the problem
[22:40] <Einherjer> I changed it so that it now downloads to home, and there it appears :D
[22:40] <Einherjer> Thanks
[22:40] <thiebaude> Einherjer, cool
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> Einherjer: i think it defaulting to Desktop is horrible
[22:40] <joooe> Slart: in the scrip i just use a normal rsync... what should i change?
[22:40] <Slart> joooe: yup.. I agree.. not really sure what to do about it though.. you might of course start the script using sudo -u joooo yourscript
[22:41] <Lappy> Is Bluey
[22:41] <Slart> joooe: I don't think it will require a password since you're running as root already
[22:41] <joooe> Slart: i'll try it
[22:41] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip, i agree, i couldn't imagine saving everything to the desktp
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: specially as there is a ~/Downloads folder
[22:42] <thiebaude> oh, yea
[22:43] <JKDSte> rawr
[22:45] <hugo1> there's a lot going on here
[22:46] <detrix> Hello everyone.  I have an ATI Radeon 9000 video card.   fglrx does not work with it.  is there another driver for it so it can do openGL DRI?
[22:46] <hugo1> no. i'm on Nvidia
[22:47] <thor> hi
[22:47] <hugo1> hi
[22:47] <thiebaude> !nvidia
[22:47] <hugo1> its ok its 770
[22:47] <joooe> Slart: now i get this: program '/home/joeDokumente/backup.sh' failed
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> !ati | detrix
[22:48] <hugo1> Many greets!
[22:48] <MFK> Hello all, I'm trying to set up a ubuntu box as a Quake 3 Dedicated server but I cannot figure out how to get the point release installed. Can anyone give me some guidance?
[22:48] <Slart> joooe: did you run it as "sudo -u joe /home/joeDokumente/backup.sh" ? or "sudo -u joe sh /home/joeDokumente/backup.sh" ?
[22:49] <Resistol> Is teamviewer the only free screen sharing app out there that is:  Unlimited free use, no router/ip setup needed, and no installation needed for helpdesk client?  I keep finding others that have 100 hour limits, or that require configuring/installing on the client side (awful idea)
[22:49] <Slart> joooe: the difference is the "sh"
[22:49] <hugo1> (sh)ell
[22:49] <joooe> Slart: without sh
[22:49] <Slart> joooe: try with the sh
[22:50] <JohnCorbeau> Resistol: you could try yuuguu
[22:51] <hugo1> every1 so busy - how do I learn anything here? I'm trying to pick up Ubuntu knowledge...
[22:51] <Resistol> JohnCorbeau, yuuguu's site says they have a 100minute limit
[22:51] <Resistol> unless the client signs up for it too...
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> joooe: if you chmod +x the file it will be seen as a binary, so you can omit sh
[22:51] <JohnCorbeau> Resistol: Hm ok, t's been a while since I used it
[22:51] <joooe> ActionParsnip: thanks, i forgot
[22:52] <sebsebseb> hugo1: What do you want to do in Ubuntu?
[22:52] <FlugHaffen> Im having some trouble with my ubuntu 9.04 install.  Grub goes to CLI and I dont know how to boot from there
[22:52] <hugo1> i'll come back when its less busy i think
[22:52] <MFK> Hello all, I'm trying to set up a ubuntu box as a Quake 3 Dedicated server but I cannot figure out how to get the point release installed. Can anyone give me some guidance?
[22:52] <sebsebseb> !guide | hugo1
[22:52] <sebsebseb> hugo1: Ubuntu Pocket Guide
[22:52] <hugo1> oh ok
[22:52] <hugo1> ta1
[22:53] <un|matrix> hi, is there an audio editor like Audacity that doesn't suck?
[22:53] <simcop2388> ok i've got a strange problem, just installed ubuntu onto a 160gb (142gb according to df) drive, there's 132gb free, apt errored out during the install of "tango-icon-theme" complaining that there is no free space, i can't figure out why
[22:53] <hugo1> I got the ubuntu book and Linux format and well i read the forums on ubuntu a lot
[22:53] <guntbert> hugo1: not to discourage you, but I've never seen less that 1300 people in here :-)
[22:53] <moochm> MFK: did you google linux point release for quake3
[22:54] <sebsebseb> un|matrix: I don't use audacity personally, but it's meant to be really good.
[22:54] <hugo1> Ha!
[22:54] <FlugHaffen> Im having some trouble with my ubuntu 9.04 install.  Grub goes to CLI and I dont know how to boot from there
[22:54] <MFK> mooch: I did, and i've followed a couple of guys, but have been unable to get it to work
[22:54] <sebsebseb> hugo1: there may be a lot of people in here, but  I haven't seen everyone in here,  chat in here
[22:54] <hugo1> thanks gunntbert goot day to you
[22:54] <un|matrix> sebsebseb: it's counterproductive... it annoys you with pointless things like sample rates and you have to open another instance of audacity just to downsample the rate... etc
[22:55] <moochm> MFK: mine is running but I'm trying to remember how I did it...
[22:55] <hugo1> lol sebsebseb
[22:55] <guntbert> hugo1: have fun with linux :-)
[22:56] <moochm> MFK: where did you d/l the server package
[22:56] <xim_> somehow my gtk-windows-decorator is set so that the area i can click around the border of a window to resize that window is only 1 pixel wide.  how can I change this? its really difficult to find and use
[22:56] <chris-dowle> i enabled file sharing on a folder, is it getting shared through NFS or SMB?
[22:56] <MFK> moochm: I only downloaded the point release from Quake Unity, I thought that was all i needed
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> chris-dowle: i'd imagine samba
[22:57] <hugo1> I do. I've been with SUSE since 6.1 then moved to Dapper Drake with Ubuntu and been with Ubuntu since
[22:57] <paneo1> Hi. I have installed Ubuntu in a computer. When I go to using internet, the connection is very slow.
[22:57] <stlsaint> bad isp maybe paneo1???
[22:58] <stlsaint> doubt its ubuntu...what driver for nic you using?
[22:58] <thiebaude> paneo1, you test your internet speed?
[22:58] <FlugHaffen> Im having some trouble with my ubuntu 9.04 install.  Grub goes to CLI and I dont know how to boot from there
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> FlugHaffen: did you install the server version>
[22:59] <Raydiation> hi i just removed my damaged xp disk and built in a new disk with a fresh xp install. i tried to get grub back by booting into a live cd and using chroot and grub-install /dev/sda && update-grub, but everytime i reboot i get grub error 17
[22:59] <moochm> MFK: what error are you seeing
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> !vnc > ActionParsnip
[22:59] <Raydiation> booting from sdb works, but sda fails
[22:59] <Raydiation> problem is that i cant change that in the bios
[22:59] <paneo1> No.
[22:59] <FlugHaffen> ActionParsnip, no
[22:59] <paneo1> stlsaint: No
[22:59] <paneo1> stlsaint: Because I can use the same DSL modem in another computer with Ubuntu.
[22:59] <thiebaude> !grub > Raydiation
[23:00] <hugo1> I loaded up Xchat and came here and #Fullcirclemagazine - which is cool
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> FlugHaffen: ok good so far, did you md5 check the iso you downloaded?
[23:00] <thiebaude> Raydiation, did you try that?
[23:00] <FlugHaffen> ActionPArsnip, no
[23:00] <stlsaint> paneo1, is this system that is slow and older model...and once again what are your drivers for modem?
[23:00] <Raydiation> thiebaude: i used a different one from the german wiki, but ill try that one
[23:00] <Raydiation> ty
[23:00] <Gnome64> FlugHaffen : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes/
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> FlugHaffen: go md5 check the iso, you have no idea that the iso  you downloaded is good and complete
[23:01] <thiebaude> Raydiation, no problem
[23:01] <MFK> moochm:after using the sh command to open the file it replies error cannot open
[23:01] <sebsebseb> hugo1: Have you browsed Synaptic to get an idea, of what kind of programs you can easilly install in Ubuntu?   that's a start
[23:01] <hugo1> ok bye all off to bed soon the - UK is wet and windy tonight!
[23:01] <thiebaude> hugo1, yea rainy here too
[23:02] <Gnome64> Let it rain! hugo1 !
[23:02] <hugo1> yes its great for the 4000 or so I want to load duh1
[23:02] <moochm> MFK: try chmod a+x <name of point release file>, then ./<name of point release file>
[23:02] <Raydiation> thiebaude: do i need to mount /dev/sda1 on which xp is installed to install grub on it?
[23:02] <Free-Lancer> How can i set wget to download a link only if the extension is .txt
[23:02] <Gnome64> MFK: You need to be in the directory of the file you want to run!
[23:02] <thiebaude> Raydiation, im not sure
[23:02] <hugo1> I'll be back tomorrow - thanks everyone!
[23:02] <sebsebseb> hugo1: the whole of the UK does not have the same weather :D
[23:02] <paneo1> stlsaint: I think it's something with 509x
[23:03] <hugo1> but in Northumberland its wet
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> hugo1: wet in leeds too
[23:03] <MFK> gnome: I'm such a newb to linux, how do i make sure i'm in that direcory?
[23:03] <JohnCorbeau> Free-Lancer: there an option for it, just rtfm  "man wget"
[23:03] <eeguy> ne1 familiar with xubuntu and ldap willing to take a crack at this, I would *greatly* appreciate it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/262749/
[23:03] <thiebaude> cloudy in manchester
[23:03] <hugo1> I like leeds
[23:03] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: your from USA
[23:03] <hugo1> and Manchester - days at the Twisted wheel
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> hugo1: jut had the huge carnival today :)
[23:03] <thiebaude> yea, i know, jk
[23:04] <wam> Hi, how can I find a process which causes a *lot* iowait? is there something like a iotop?
[23:04] <moochm> MFK: try 'pwd'
[23:04] <paneo1> stlsaint: I can connect me to internet, but when I make ping "google.com" the response is very slow.
[23:04] <Free-Lancer> In Salford its a tad on the wet side also
[23:04] <hugo1> Notting hill?
[23:04] <Gnome64> MFK: well, just copy the file to desktop and after that open a terminal and use the cd(change directory command) cd Desktop , after that run what the other guy said
[23:04] <thiebaude> offtopic, but thinking of manu beating arsenal
[23:04] <thiebaude> lol
[23:04] <hugo1> lol
[23:05] <dememtor> hy i cant create folders in a partion  i edit fstab i add some line but nothing:((
[23:05] <hugo1> if we had the motu playing for Newcastle we would win the cup
[23:05] <lucasarg> hey guys, im trying to install ubuntu from a pendrive to a netbook, ive setup my bios to boot from the usb but it doesnt do it, in my other computer i can boot from the pen ive created, any ideas whats wrong?
[23:05] <Gnome64> MFK: You should really read the Ubuntu documentation, otherwise it's unlikely to know how to deal with this OS the proper way.
[23:06] <hugo1> meow
[23:06] <angrycatty> hi
[23:06] <mycomputer> any software to reconnect to internet
[23:06] <sebsebseb> !ot |  hugo1
[23:06] <hugo1> erm
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> lucasarg: make sure the system is set to boot from usb properly
[23:07] <hugo1> that was a bot
[23:07] <stlsaint> paneo1, are you using proprietary drivers
[23:07] <thiebaude> bye guys see ya lata
[23:07] <sebsebseb> !bot |  hugo1
[23:07] <angrycatty> any1 knows how to install Mumble Server on Ubuntu 9.04 ?
[23:07] <xiphos> I have a launcher that I have created, and put in a bash command; bash -c "command". How do I make that command run as root?
[23:07] <hugo1> bye away myself in a min
[23:07] <mycomputer> any software to reconnect to internet
[23:07] <thiebaude> cheers
[23:07] <sebsebseb> angrycatty: what's that?
[23:07] <Gnome64> angrycatty: http://mumble.sourceforge.net/Installing_Mumble
[23:08] <sebsebseb> mycomputer: well your on the Internet right now aren't you?
[23:08] <paneo1> stlsaint: I haven't installed drivers.
[23:08] <sebsebseb> !details |  mycomputer
[23:08] <angrycatty> Mumble is an open source, low-latency, high quality voice chat software primarily intended for use while gaming
[23:08] <hugo1> Bye all that spoke to me cool channel!
[23:08] <angrycatty> bye hugo1
[23:08] <sebsebseb> angrycatty: so it's only made for Windows?
[23:08] <mycomputer> seseseb: i have often disconnect from internet i need software to reconnect itself
[23:08] <angrycatty> no, OSX and Linux too
[23:09] <sebsebseb> angrycatty: so install it in Ubuntu?
[23:09] <sebsebseb> mycomputer: ok well I don't know
[23:09] <mycomputer> sebsebseb: thans
[23:10] <SlickT10> Anyone had trouble with the express card slot giving cards an irq of zero
[23:10] <mycomputer> ubottu: i often disconnected from internet any software for reconnect itself
[23:10] <sebsebseb> !bot |  mycomputer
[23:11] <Raydiation> hm, im getting grub error 17 when trying to boot
[23:11] <Raydiation> what am i doning wrong?=
[23:11] <MFK> Gnome: since I still can't get this to work, it must be a sign that i should read the documentation you mentioned
[23:11] <sebsebseb> !grub |  Raydiation
[23:11] <Raydiation> sebsebseb: yep, doesnt help
[23:12] <Raydiation> i mount my ubuntu root partition (sdb) and install grub on sda
[23:12] <sebsebseb> Raydiation: did you google Grub error 17?
[23:12] <FlugHaffen> ActionParsnip, md5 checks out
[23:14] <FlugHaffen> can anybody help me?  I can't boot my fresh 9.04 install.  I keep getting sent to the grub CLI
[23:15] <sebsebseb> !gub |  FlugHaffen
[23:15] <stlsaint> paneo1, system>admin>hardware drivers
[23:15] <sebsebseb> !grub |  FlugHaffen
[23:15] <lostabeer> can ubuntu install rpm files?
[23:15] <Cpudan80> Follow the restore grub part FlugHaffen
[23:15] <sebsebseb> !alien |  lostabeer
[23:15] <FlugHaffen> thanks
[23:16] <Cpudan80> FlugHaffen: Strange that GRUB went nutty after the initial install -- what's your setup?
[23:16] <lostabeer> oh ok thanks
[23:16] <sebsebseb> FlugHaffen: well it might not exactly have a solution, but  re installing Grub could possibily help
[23:16] <sebsebseb> lostabeer: most Linux programs you can also  get from source
[23:16] <sebsebseb> lostabeer: what do you want to install?
[23:17] <lostabeer> sun java
[23:17] <FlugHaffen> Cpudan, i had 9.04 a while back and it worked just fine.  I dont know what happened
[23:17] <paneo1> stlsaint: "Hardware drivers" show nothing
[23:17] <sebsebseb> lostabeer: you don't need a RPM for that, since you can install it from the Ubuntu repo
[23:17] <Cpudan80> FlugHaffen: hrm... odd
[23:17] <FlugHaffen> Cpudan80, the only difference is a different .iso but it checked out
[23:17] <lostabeer> oh ok thanks sebsebseb
[23:18] <sebsebseb> lostabeer: ok no probs
[23:18] <Lappy> Thank you everyone for helping me with Ubuntu. especially Bluey who helped me debug my Internet!
[23:20] <eeguy> if anyone can help me out, I'd greatly appreciate it.. I'm at my wits end. This is formatted better, sorry for the last one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/262759/   Thanks in advance
[23:20] <Pizik> Is there no way to stop the launcher icons on the gnome panel moving when you change resolutions for a game?
[23:21] <Q-FUNK> hi! I'd need help debuging an /etc/inittab recipe that works on Debian, but fails once converted to an upstarts /etc/events.d/ recipe.  could anyone help me?
[23:21] <stlsaint> paneo1, sounds like either isp or old system
[23:22] <paneo1> stlsaint: Yes
[23:27] <chris-dowle> how do i burn .img files in ubuntu
[23:27] <FlugHaffen> i tried reinstalling grub but i dont think it worked.  I got a strange response.
[23:28] <Andorin> I'm starting to learn C++ and according to the book I'm consulting, I need a compiler. Does Ubuntu come with one by default, and if so, how do I access it? (Or do I just use Text Editor to write code and ./configure and make to compile?)
[23:28] <sukuri> I'm trying to install simplescaler and am having some issues doing it. Is there anyone here using Ubuntu 9.04 x64 edition that has simplescalar and would be willing to help me?
[23:29] <FlugHaffen> can someone take a look at this? http://pastebin.com/m6f7dd75
[23:29] <xylox> Andorin, install build-essential package and geany is one ide tha i would recommend
[23:30] <TheFly> Hey guys, I'm trying to use ethtools to set my eth0 to 10mbps half-duplex, ive issued (sudo ethtool -s eth0 speed 10 duplex half) but it doesnt seem to take...
[23:30] <Andorin> xylox: Thanks.
[23:30] <sebsebseb> chris-dowle: I think you might need to convert them to ISO first
[23:33] <Andorin> xylox: Does geany support the ANSI standard?
[23:34] <rayne> Is there a plugin for Rhythm box that allows it to identify untagged music?
[23:35] <xylox> Andorin, it supports c and c++, if that's what you mean
[23:36] <rayne> Is there a plugin for Rhythm box that allows it to identify unidentified music?
[23:36] <Punkx> Someone please tell me know if I can boot the live cd for PXE? able to install the Ubuntu 8.04 alternate
[23:36] <tisepti> if i have a local .deb package that i want to install with gdebi can i put its dependencies in the same folder (or otherwise specify where dependencies should be gotten in a place that is not online)
[23:36] <Guest522> hi, does anybody have a home webserver here?
[23:36] <helpee> hola
[23:37] <helpee> Guest522: just ask your question bro
[23:37] <Gouda> Hola! ¿como estas hoy?
[23:37] <helpee> tisepti: use dpkg in a terminal
[23:37] <scunizi> tisepti: if it's a deb then the package manager should recognize what dependancies are needed and download them at the same time as the install.
[23:37] <Guest522> ok, well ive just put ubuntu on a home tower, i have just worked out how to login to my netgear router, and was wondering about port forwarding
[23:37] <haciamuchoquenoe> hi. I have a little question about fixed ip. Well I have conf ip fixed (<IP_ADDRESS>) but I want change only the servers of resolv dns and don't change the ip?
[23:38] <Guest522> do i port forwad the server ip, in the http:
[23:38] <scunizi> Guest522: what about it?
[23:38] <Guest522> ?
[23:38] <aylusarn> Andorin: gcc.gnu.org is the GNU Compiler Collection homepage, pretty sure it supports ANSI standard
[23:38] <Gouda> You have to open ports up in your iptables file
[23:38] <scunizi> Guest522: ah.. you're running a http server?
[23:38] <haciamuchoquenoe> and fixed ip set with networkmanager gnome
[23:38] <Guest522> a home webserver
[23:38] <Guest522> to run a few websites from
[23:38] <helpee> Guest522: you need to state what you want to do...
[23:39] <Dulak> Guest522: your ISP doesn't block port 80 inbound on your network?
[23:39] <scunizi> Guest522: yep.. same thing.. be aware that most ISP's block port 80 on home internet service.. you might need to use something like DynDNS.com
[23:39] <Guest522> need to forward the port from the machine to my router
[23:39] <Guest522> and not 100% how to
[23:39] <helpee> Guest522: you need to configure that in your router.  portforward.com
[23:39] <scunizi> Guest522: works the other way around.. you need to forward port 80 to your webserver
[23:39] <SerialKiller> what is a good mmo fps for jaunty??
[23:39] <Guest522> ryt,
[23:40] <Guest522> either way im not 100% sure how to do it
[23:40] <Guest522> im loged into my router now, what exactly do i need to do?
[23:40] <p4n1ck> hi
[23:40] <helpee> Guest522: read the site I gave you
[23:40] <scunizi> Guest522: is your server getting it's IP automatically from your router? if so you'll need to make it static
[23:40] <Etu> Hey dudes :)
[23:40] <FlugHaffen> im even having problems with the autosupergrub disk
[23:40] <lostabeer> i guys can i have both openjdk and sun java6 jdk installed together?
[23:40] <helpee> FlugHaffen: just ask your question...
[23:40] <Guest522> i can make it a static ip adress
[23:40] <Guest522> ive worked that bit out
[23:40] <helpee> lostabeer: yeah
[23:40] <scunizi> lostabeer: you can but look bor problems
[23:41] <lostabeer> ooo okok~
[23:41] <Inuyasha10121> Hey, I was wondering if someone could help me properly partition my drive.  I need to know what the / extension is for swap
[23:41] <helpee> lostabeer: you shouldn't have problems...
[23:41] <Etu> I run ubuntu and conkeror, and I try to configure my conkeror in the .conkerorrc file, but it does not works...
[23:41] <helpee> !multijava | lostabeer
[23:41] <Guest522> could i pm somebody that could help me? im getting confussed in this room
[23:41] <Guest522> please
[23:41] <scunizi> Guest522: then in the router, typically in the "Game" section is where you forward tcp/ip port 80 to the ip of your server
[23:41] <helpee> !pm | Guest522
[23:41] <Guest522> ok
[23:41] <FlugHaffen> helpee, i installed 9.04.  grub sends me to a CLI and i cant boot.  I tried reinstalling grub and got some errors.  I tried autosupergrub and it didnt work
[23:41] <helpee> Guest522: did you visit portforward.com yet?  This isn't an ubuntu issue.  It's a configuration setting on your router.
[23:42] <Guest522> ive tryed protforward
[23:42] <SerialKiller> does anyone play mmo's ??
[23:42] <Guest522> and got even more confussed
[23:42] <helpee> !doesn't work | FlugHaffen
[23:42] <SerialKiller> brb
[23:42] <tisepti> scunizi: i need to do this on an offline system - thus i will need to have all dependencies downloaded ahead of time; i know some can be found on the install disk - but how do i provide the ones that are not
[23:42] <helpee> Guest522: well it's in english.  Sit down and read it.  Or read your router's documentation.
[23:42] <rayne> Is there a plugin or a way for Rhythmbox to allow it to identify untagged music?
[23:42] <hou5ton> Any ideas as to why sometimes when I boot up, the sound works, and other times, like now, it doesn't?
[23:42] <helpee> tisepti: use dpkg like I said
[23:42] <Gouda> I was about to say the same thing helpee.
[23:42] <Guest522> i tryed to read it
[23:43] <Guest522> i got into my netgear vertion
[23:43] <Guest522> and http
[23:43] <FlugHaffen> helpee, let me bring up the specific error i get from auto super grub
[23:43] <Guest522> and doesnt really say much from there
[23:43] <Gouda> Google is your friend
[23:43] <tisepti> helpee: how do i provide the dependencies for dpkg ?
[23:43] <helpee> tisepti: dpkg -i foo.deb dep1.deb dep2.deb ...
[23:43] <scunizi> tisepti: there is a way for the package manager to tell you what dependancies you need without installing them.  Download from a different computer and place them in the same location that "Apt" typically puts downloads.. sorry I don't know much more.
[23:44] <helpee> Guest522: you want to run a server yet you don't want to read documentation :/
[23:44] <scunizi> !aptoncd | tisepti
[23:44] <Guest522> i chucked the router docs away =( ?
[23:44] <helpee> Guest522: have you heard of google?
[23:45] <bkevan> helpee: What's this google thing you speak of
[23:45] <Guest522> ive tryed on on a manual on portforward.com
[23:45] <Dulak> It's a lotta zeroes
[23:45] <Guest522> but, im stuck on Server IP Address
[23:45] <Guest522> would this be the machine ip
[23:45] <scunizi> when you go there it says "Bing"!
[23:45] <Guest522> or the router ip?
[23:45] <helpee> bkevan: I found a link to google once on yahoo but was too scared to click, not sure!
[23:45] <scunizi> Guest522: server
[23:46] <bkevan> helpee: Yeah.. might not be safe.. jk
[23:46] <Dulak> Hey let me google that on bing, sounds handy.
[23:46] <Guest522> server... machine u mean
[23:46] <Guest522> ?
[23:46] <scunizi> yes
[23:46] <Guest522> ok
[23:46] <FlugHaffen> helpee, wanna take a look? http://pastebin.com/mcae0d81
[23:46] <Guest522> and this wold be
[23:46] <Guest522> Your IP Address is <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:46] <Guest522> ?
[23:46] <Gouda> It sounds to me like someone is way in over their head and need to go learn some basics of networking and terminology before tackling a task like setting up a webserver
[23:47] <scunizi> Guest522: nope.. that's not it.. should be something like 192.168.0.xxx
[23:47] <Guest522> ok
[23:47] <helpee> FlugHaffen: not sure.  Have you tried using the grub prompt to install grub manually?  Also try #grub to figure out what the errors mean
[23:47] <Guest522> i try that
[23:47] <Guest522> and get this error Server IP address cannot be router's LAN IP address.
[23:47] <FlugHaffen> helpee, i did try the grub prompt but ill try in the grub channel thanks
[23:47] <scunizi> then you entered the wrong address Guest522
[23:48] <Guest522> but, i login to the router via http://<IP_ADDRESS>/start.htm
[23:48] <Guest522> so thats gotta be the ip
[23:48] <Guest522> ?
[23:49] <scunizi> Guest522: nope.. that's the routers address.. your machine is in the same range but the last number is different.
[23:49] <Guest522> 1 Web Server 80 80 <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:49] <Guest522> so thats right
[23:49] <Guest522> i managed to get that bit
[23:49] <rymo_> I found the http://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromLinux/RedHatEnterpriseLinuxAndFedora page today -
[23:49] <rymo_> I think "apt-cache search" is a better equivalent to "yum search" than the given "apt-cache show" -- I'm tempted to make a wiki edit right now but figured I should check with an apt-cache expert first?
[23:49] <scunizi> Guest522: might be.. where did you get that info?
[23:49] <wasutton3> hey i am trying to get my apache to link up to my cups server and i dont get the same graphics that i do in localhost:631, my httpd file is here http://pastebin.com/m11a67e75
[23:50] <joker_> Anyone eard of a way t synchronise icecast streams? I have multiple clients pluggued trough my house and I'd like them to be synchronised. Right now, each one plays slightly out of sinc (bout a second or two) and I'd like every room to play in sync.
[23:50] <un|matrix> is there an audio editor for linux that doesn't suck? (you can't say audacity)
[23:50] <haciamuchoquenoe> bye
[23:50] <joker_> un|matrix: audacity?
[23:51] <scunizi> joker_: don't the machines cache some of the stream a little.. if so it'll be a nightmare to sync them
[23:51] <un|matrix> joker_: no because it sucks
[23:51] <Guest522> scunizi: clicked start, rightclicked on wireless network conections, status then clicked support
[23:51] <joker_> scunizi: yeah, I guess the problem resides in buffering but there's got to be a way to sync that?
[23:51] <FlugHaffen> think the grub channel is empty
[23:51] <joker_> un|matrix: yeah well, thats what I use... Works pretty much well for what I need
[23:52] <FlugHaffen> !grub
[23:52] <scunizi> Guest522: if that was done on the server machine then it sounds right.
[23:52] <scunizi> joker_: beyond me
[23:52] <rymo_> yum search == apt-cache search != apt-cache show ... anybody disagree?
[23:52] <un|matrix> joker_: how do you glue together two tracks that have different sample rates then?
[23:52] <Guest522> so nowok
[23:53] <Guest522> ok, so now thats me done?
[23:53] <scunizi> Guest522: are you trying to get to the server from inside your lan?
[23:53] <Guest522> yes
[23:53] <Guest522> but, i want other people to be able to access my server
[23:53] <scunizi> Guest522:  then just open a browser and type the ip address.. like <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[23:54] <Gouda> Scunizi. That won't test whether people on the outside can access it
[23:54] <Gouda> He needs to put in his public ip address with port 80 to see if people on the outside can access it
[23:54] <ozone89> knock knock
[23:54] <scunizi> Gouda: of course not.. he's setting up port forwarding and then trying to test access from inside the lan.. not going to work that way.. you're right though.. he's over his head
[23:55] <Gouda> Pretty much
[23:55] <Guest522> <IP_ADDRESS>:80 doesnt do anything
[23:55] <Guest522> except try and load
[23:55] <scunizi> Guest522: try  http://<IP_ADDRESS>:80
[23:55] <Gouda> have you even setup apache yet guest?
[23:55] <arand> FlugHaffen: the e2fs_stage1_5 file are in the /boot/grub/ directory on my jaunty install, do you know if grub is installed correctly on the filesystem itself?
[23:56] <Guest522> i used ubuntu
[23:56] <Guest522> doesnt that work
[23:56] <Guest522> btw
[23:56] <Guest522> im using mylaptop
[23:56] <Guest522> but i want to connect to my desktop
[23:56] <ozone89> may anybody help me?
[23:56] <scunizi> Gouda: GOOD QUESTION!  wish I had thought of that
[23:56] <Guest522> so
[23:56] <Guest522> how would people from the outside world be able to connect?
[23:56] <FlugHaffen> arand, i dont know if it is installed correctly.  I tried reinstalling it and it seemed not to work
[23:56] <Gouda> Wow ok...you are way in over your head guest522. If you are using your machine to host a webpage, you need to setup Apache first. if you didnt know what that was then you need to go do some research and reading on how to setup a webserver before coming in here
[23:57] <arquebus> ozone89- with what?
[23:57] <Guest522> well
[23:57] <Guest522> acctualy
[23:57] <Guest522> i installed cpane;
[23:57] <Guest522> and it does it for me
[23:57] <mechdave> ozone89, Just ask your question, if we know the answer we will reply :)
[23:57] <FloodBot3> Guest522: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:57] <Guest522> cpanel*
[23:57] <scunizi> that's not a web server
[23:57] <arand> FlugHaffen: so you aren't able to boot into the system where grub are supposed to be installed?
[23:57] <joker_> un|matrix: sry, I was afk for a minute there. As for your question, I copy paste and it works fine irrc?
[23:57] <ozone89> arquebus: with setting up a dual head on a t30...
[23:58] <un|matrix> joker_: well yeah it screws up the speed that way
[23:58] <FlugHaffen> arand, when i try to boot into the system grub sends me to a CLI and i dont know how to boot from there
[23:58] <arquebus> ozone89-dual head?
[23:58] <joker_> un|matrix: what if you open the two, resample one of them and copy#paste
[23:58] <ozone89> arquebus: yup, I have a radeon 7500 mobility
[23:58] <un|matrix> joker_: won't let me open 2 instances
[23:59] <Guest522> so, basicaly im on my own
[23:59] <Gouda> Guest522.


[07:02] <mardy> mvo: hi! Not totally unexpected, we are now getting spread failures because of the microk8s test: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/runs/5715238173?check_suite_focus=true :-)
[07:13] <pstolowski> morning
[07:18] <mardy> hi pstolowski
[07:37] <mvo> mardy: thanks, will look in a bit (in a meeting)
[07:46] <zyga[m]> hey everyone
[08:13] <mardy> hi zyga[m]!
[09:53] <mup> PR snapd#11527 closed: image: integrate UC20 preseeding with image.Prepare <Preseeding 🍞> <Created by stolowski> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11527>
[10:53] <mup> PR snapd#11581 closed: tests: moving ubuntu-image to candidate to fix uc16 tests <⚠ Critical> <Simple 😃> <Test Robustness> <Flaky Test> <Created by sergiocazzolato> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11581>
[11:09] <mup> PR snapd#11585 opened: bootloader/piboot: add support for armhf <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11585>
[11:24] <mup> PR snapd#11577 closed: quota: detect/error if cpu-set is used with cgroup v1 <Squash-merge> <Needs Samuele review> <Created by mvo5> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11577>
[11:34] <mup> PR snapd#11586 opened: sandbox,quota: ensure cgroup is available when creating mem quotas <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11586>
[13:34] <mup> PR snapd#11370 closed: o/servicestate: more explanative error messages when memory cgroup is disabled & separation of quota retrieval for the daemon and the overlord <Created by atesburak> <Closed by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11370>
[13:34] <mup> PR snapd#11587 opened: many: allow errors in `current` quota group API result <Created by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11587>
[13:39] <mup> PR snapd#11588 opened: interfaces/system-packages-doc: allow read-only access to /usr/share/libreoffice/help (LP: #1951210) <Created by oSoMoN> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11588>
[14:40] <mup> PR snapd#11585 closed: bootloader/piboot: add support for armhf <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <Closed by alfonsosanchezbeato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11585>
[16:55] <mup> PR snapd#11589 opened: o/snapstate: allow install of unasserted gadget/kernel on dangerous models <Created by kubiko> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11589>
[17:00] <mup> PR snapd#11590 opened: interfaces: posix-mq: add new interface <Created by IsaacJT> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11590>
[18:16] <mup> PR snapd#11591 opened: bootloader/piboot: add support for armhf <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/11591>


[01:21] <guiverc> I'm ~happy to post SCALE to fridge Bashing-om , but I'm not sure it belongs (need a 2nd YES or 3rd if controversial [spel?]) ...   To me SCALE is FOSS (yeah) alas not Ubuntu specific
[01:24] <Bashing-om> guiverc[m]: Of interest however, is Canonical will have a booth.
[01:34] <guiverc> I still don't see that as making it more Ubuntu newsworthy as regards fridge post.
[01:35] <Bashing-om> guiverc[m]: Ack.
[01:36] <guiverc> Ubuntu News worth (UWN) I'm 100% for; thanks for picking that up & reply Bashing-om !
[01:36]  * guiverc scrambles in my inbox & as recall you replying anyway..
[01:37]  * guiverc finds "will post to the Newsletter as appropriate."   Thanks Bashing-om
[01:37] <Bashing-om> guiverc[m]: Yeah - I got the Newsletter covered :D
[12:15] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Sean Davis: Enable Flatpak in Xubuntu @ https://blog.bluesabre.org/2023/02/22/enable-flatpak-in-xubuntu/
[12:36] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: Ubuntu Flavors Agree to Stop Using Flatpak @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2023/02/ubuntu-flavors-no-flatpak (by Joey Sneddon)
[14:00] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Blog: Linux security: your questions, answered @ https://ubuntu.com//blog/linux-security-frequently-asked-questions


[07:16]  * ppisati -> reboot
[07:19] <ppisati> smb: guess what? it doesn't work...
[07:19] <ppisati> smb: i can hear you, but can't answer...
[07:20] <smb> I realized soon agter I tried to talk to you...
[07:20] <smb> after
[09:28] <apw> smb, so it is possible.  boot to grub, edit the kernel command line, fix root= to the new dm mapper name for root and add break=mount
[09:28] <apw> smb, at that point lvm vgrename the group and let the boot continue, update-grub, grub-install and reboot again
[09:31] <smb> apw, Ok, at least one method working. Not sure a rename reboot and change root= and then update-grub again would not work as well. And not sure either the install-grub thing is needed there at all...
[09:33] <apw> smb, if you rename then reboot you have to incant at grub-rescue to get to to the grub prompt
[09:33] <apw> it is easier to incant at the normal menu thing :)
[09:33] <smb> Yeah I think
[11:30]  * smb reboots
[11:46] <ppisati> brb
[11:59]  * henrix -> lunch
[12:53] <amitk> cking: you used to have a script to exercise suspend/resume a bazillion times, did you have something for hibernate?
[12:54] <cking> amitk, it's in fwts, e.g. use fwts s4 --s4-multiple=10000
[12:54] <amitk> cking: urghhh... tied to x86?
[12:54] <cking> more like pm-utils
[12:55] <amitk> cking: the s4 worries me, I wanted to point to it for ARM platforms
[12:55] <apw> amitk, how does one ask for hib on arm
[12:55] <apw> echo disk >/proc/thingy ?
[12:55] <amitk> apw: we're fixing that :)
[12:55] <amitk> apw: by adding the required hooks
[12:56] <apw> what i mean is pmutils uses ech
[12:56] <apw> echo mem or echo disk into /proc, if you respond to those then i suspect things will work
[12:57] <amitk> apw: right, that is the only interface i want to depend on, I'll have a look at what fwts expects. I'm hoping it isn't too tied to x86'isms
[12:57] <amitk> cking: fwts git tree?
[12:57] <cking> amitk, git://kernel.ubuntu.com/hwe/fwts
[12:57] <amitk> apw: echo mem > /sys/power/state interface, that is
[12:58] <cking> amitk, you may get away with faking a pm-hibernate script, that's all it uses
[12:59] <amitk> cking: we pushed some patches to migrate workqueues and other irqs away from idle cores in 3.10 and 3.11, you might find them useful
[13:00] <cking> amitk, for ARM specifically, or generic arch changes?
[13:00] <amitk> cking: most of our work is core frameworks, the only ARM-specific stuff is driver consolidation
[13:04] <cking> amitk, so I could theoretically be able to measure this on x86 if I enable CONFIG_WQ_POWER_EFFICIENT_DEFAULT=y
[13:05]  * cking pops it on the TODO list
[13:05] <amitk> cking: depends on your idle profile (drivers using wqs), we only converted 3-4 subsytems to use POWER_EFFICIENT WQs by default. There might be more subystem in use on x86
[13:06] <amitk> cking: driver writers who don't have to worry about performance (cache) are starting to convert their drivers to use this now
[13:07] <amitk> cking: so yes, we see improvements
[13:07] <amitk> idle states are deeper and longer
[13:08] <cking> ack
[13:26] <amitk> cking: will try to dump info and exchange notes with you guys as time permits, gtg. Bye
[13:26] <cking> amitk, ok, I'm always around to help
[13:26] <amitk> cking: thanks
[13:59] <tyrant> i have a kernel 3.2.0-49 installed and i want to rebuild a module for that kernel, where do i get the source code for that particular version (same vermagic)? the sources apt gives me  has this vermagic
[13:59] <tyrant> 3.2.46 SMP mod_unload 686
[14:15] <lfaraone> If you're running the raring kernel on 12.04 LTS and upgrade to 12.10, what happens to your kernel version?
[18:41] <apw> lfaraone, from P+R kernel to real R ?  the kernel would be near identicle, so you would upgrade to the replacement kernel
[18:41] <apw> which would be basically the same bits
[18:42] <lfaraone> apw: P+R kernel to Q.
[18:42] <apw> oh, you will end up with both kernel still i expect
[18:42] <apw> so you would probabally continue to use the R kernel, which isn't going to update
[18:42] <lfaraone> apw: Is the R kernel offered as a package in Q?
[18:42] <apw> hmmm not idea
[18:43] <apw> nope
[18:43] <apw> though that seems like an odd upgrade
[18:44] <apw> cirtainly odd to move from P+R to Q and not then on to R
[18:45] <lfaraone> So if you install 12.04.3 or whatever with the HWE raring kernel and then want to upgrade to the (still supported) 12.10 but not 13.04, because lets say there's some incompatability with your frobnicator.
[18:45] <lfaraone> You end up in a situation without updates :/
[18:48] <lfaraone> I'm trying to figure out if I need to backport the 3.8-enablement patches for OpenAFS to PQ or just P.
[18:49] <apw> lfaraone, that does sound like an accurate statement, not idea
[18:49] <apw> ideal indeed
[18:50] <apw> i wonder if we can force the lts backports off on upgrade
[18:50] <lfaraone> apw: that would be unfortunate if I actually need the R kernel for my hardware, though, right?
[18:50] <apw> if you arn't supported on Q in theory you cannnot upgrade from P+R though Q anyho
[18:51] <apw> as you should have never been able to install Q in the first place, but would have been forced to R
[18:51] <apw> but this is all far from ideal in either direction
[18:57]  * apw makes sure it is on our next team agenda
[18:57]  * apw calls it a day
[19:56] <kentb> do we typically update pciutils with a new set of pci.ids in a stable release?  for example, 12.04.3?  There are some new Ivy Bridge servers on the horizon that'll need the id bump so they're recognized properly in 'lspci'.  Or is the answer to run 'update-pciids' (which seems to work)?
[19:57] <kentb> 'they're' meaning memory controllers and the like
[22:19] <mojo706> hello wonderful people on the Kernel Team
[22:19] <mojo706> please assist this user http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2164127
[22:32] <mjg59> mojo706: It's not a kernel bug - the panic is because it can't start init
[22:32] <mjg59> And it can't start init because your hard drive is dead
[22:34] <mojo706> mjg59, but I have read somewhere else that it got fixed after a reinstall of Ubuntu but in this case there are important files.
[23:49] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[23:49] <ShapeShifter499> I have a nook hd tablet that as far as I know is OMAP4. Do I have to do any edits to ubuntu arm to get it to boot and run off my system?