[07:58] <heinkel_112> Tal..ok...I see, but then I think it is quite difficlt for me to help you, no experience with usb disks
[07:58] <heinkel_112> you could try damn small linux
[07:59] <heinkel_112> and then use that to download and install kubuntu in the next step?
[07:59] <heinkel_112> although i can't tell you how...
[07:59] <Tal> damn small linux is still 50mb though
[07:59] <Tal> theres no floppy version.
[07:59] <Tal> unless i missed it.
[08:00] <heinkel_112> hmm..i thought that was the floppy distro...but then it was something else :(
[08:00] <h3sp4wn> Put the drive into another machine with a 3.5 to 2.5 convertor
[08:00] <[GuS] > someones uses Edgy here?
[08:00] <Tal> huh?
[08:00] <heinkel_112> there is something that fits on alfoppy somewhere....
[08:00] <Tal> that would be nice.
[08:00] <heinkel_112> a floppy
[08:01] <Tal> a small gui distro thats on a floppy
[08:01] <Tal> though.
[08:01] <Wargoo> i never used this, but try it maybe http://www.toms.net/rb/
[08:01] <Tal> i had windows on this once (a techy did it)
[08:01] <Tal> on the laptop.
[08:01] <Tal> and i could not boot from it then either
[08:01] <Tal> :(
[08:01] <Tal> so im not sure it will work
[08:01] <Tal> when i say wont boot i mean.
[08:02] <Tal> if i put a small linux distro, it might be impossible to upgrade to kubuntu.
[08:02] <Tal> but its worth a shot
[08:03] <pawel> thorn i sent u this file
[08:03] <pawel> check it out
[08:03] <fuci> Hi, I installed Kubuntu from the base gnome with "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop". Everything is fine except I can't change my resolution from 1600x1200 to 1152x864, it does show up in the system settings -> monitor. What should I do?
[08:05] <pawel> fuci ___ edit xorg.file
[08:05] <seanOne> Make sure you have the right monitor driver
[08:05] <fuci> I do have the Nvidia driver installed,
[08:06] <fuci> pawel: What should I put there?
[08:06] <Makro___> mmmh
[08:06] <Goliath23> hi
[08:06] <pawel> dont put just edit this file - find section monitor and change resolution
[08:07] <seanOne> Go to system settings and whack the display icon
[08:07] <Makro___> still getting disconnected in some lapsus of time, dunno why, in windows is fine
[08:07] <seanOne> Go to the hardware tab
[08:07] <pawel>  / etc / X11 / xorg . conf
[08:08] <pawel> edit this file with root priviliges by gedit
[08:08] <ge2x> hey can any1 tell me how to burn audio cds from mp3 with k3b
[08:08] <MenZa> /etc/X11/xorg.conf *
[08:08] <Goliath23> I have a serious problem here: I have installed the latest k7 kernel image, using the linux-image-k7 meta package. but there doesn't seem to be a matching resticted-modules package for that kernel and I guess thats the root of real problem (nvidia kernel module isnt loaded) only If I manually specify the path to the .ko file and using insmod
[08:08] <MenZa> :)
[08:08] <Goliath23> any suggestions on that?
[08:08] <fuci> pawel: hmm, there are some 1152x864 configurations there, for 54hz and 75hz. Strange. I can see the 1152x864 85hz in system settings -> display, but it doesn't change to it even if I'm on adminstrative mode.
[08:09] <pawel> ge2 -- find plugin to k3b - it is in synaptic
[08:09] <seanOne> Fuci does it identify your monitor correctly?
[08:09] <ge2x> pawel, hows the plugin called?
[08:09] <fuci> seanOne: In xorg.conf, yes.
[08:10] <pawel> ge2 just type mp3, k3b in synaptic and HERE IS
[08:10] <pawel> fuci in witch section?>
[08:10] <fuci> Section "Monitor"
[08:11] <pawel> wait i check my
[08:11] <XVampireX> Windows is not ready for the desktop!
[08:11] <ge2x> pawelbut when i mark it says it needs to remove a whole lot of other libs
[08:12] <not_benh_> howdy all
[08:12] <ge2x> does it has to do that
[08:12] <pawel> but what libs?
[08:12] <TunaTom> ho not_benh_
[08:13] <TunaTom> s/ho/hi/
[08:13] <not_benh_> how would I track the 'unstable' packages? I am used to debians stable/unstable/testing track but I didnt see any thing on the site about tracking unstable/testing?
[08:13] <ge2x> startind adept, akregator and ending with wlassistant
[08:13] <pawel> fuci --- section "screen" there are some resolutions make sure u got what u want
[08:13] <TunaTom> not_benh: there's no need to do that, actually.
[08:13] <h3sp4wn> not_benh_: You cannot - either use edgy or dapper - you cannot use bits of both
[08:13] <TunaTom> not_benh: most packages are very quickly backported from the development versions.
[08:14] <h3sp4wn> not_benh_: Or use deb-src edgy lines and backport yourself
[08:14] <pawel> ge2 -- what is this plugin name
[08:15] <ge2x> plz w8 a minute
[08:15] <TunaTom> h3sp4wn: how would I go about that? Build/Install the edgy-sources and create debs from that?
[08:16] <TunaTom> While using dapper...
[08:16] <not_benh_> cool thanks guys
[08:16] <TunaTom> not_benh_: cheers
[08:16] <h3sp4wn> TunaTom: apt-get source (from both edgy and dapper) debuild -uc -us
[08:17] <TunaTom> h3sp4wn: It's worth a try.
[08:17] <TunaTom> But more interesting for others, when I go fix bugs and stuff, isn't it?
[08:17] <pawel> ge2+++++    libk3b2-mp3+++++++++
[08:17] <ge2x> yes thats waht its called
[08:18] <fuci> Aahfrhd, crappit. I just use Gnome, it works better for me :(
[08:18] <h3sp4wn> TunaTom: I just take what I want from wherever (sid / edgy)
[08:18] <TunaTom> h3sp4wn: I'm constantly thinking about how to contribute, perhaps that's something.
[08:18] <ge2x> so what should i do should i install it?
[08:18] <TunaTom> Just build stuff and create a backport package..
[08:18] <pawel> gnome or kde?
[08:19] <pawel> ge2 what u got
[08:19] <ge2x> kde
[08:19] <pawel> so use adept to install this
[08:19] <h3sp4wn> TunaTom: Problem with doing that is sometimes versions are specified explicitly in some of the meta packages
[08:19] <ge2x> ohh
[08:20] <pawel> try to upgrade k3b there is newer version
[08:20] <h3sp4wn> TunaTom: So someone may install one of your backports and then {k}ubuntu-desktop may be uninstallable
[08:20] <pawel> dont forget to apt-get update
[08:20] <TunaTom> h3sp4wn: Hmm, so one would have to create something _outside_ the meta or backport the meta-package as well?
[08:20] <MrBallZ> Question: any one has problems updating the flashplugin ... dpgk gives me an error ... but k3b update went by well....
[08:21] <h3sp4wn> TunaTom: You just need to make sure it doesn't break anything
[08:21] <abattoir> MrBallZ: yes, from what i've heard there is an issue, and its being worked upon
[08:21] <MrBallZ> abattoir: thanks ... then I'll just wait ...
[08:21] <abattoir> MrBallZ: you might see a fixed version in backports/updates soon, so just be a bit patient :)
[08:22] <TunaTom> h3sp4wn: pitty, so I'll just keep building for my own needs. Not enough time :(
[08:22] <h3sp4wn> TunaTom: I would rather not do anything unless I can be 100% certain that it will not break other things
[08:23] <TunaTom> h3sp4wn: I'm an experienced Linux user since about 8 years and just think about how I could contribute back a bit.
[08:24] <TunaTom> h3sp4wn: not having much time, though. So I thought I'd just publish the compiles I have anyway.
[08:24] <TunaTom> h3sp4wn: and call that backport :)
[08:25] <TunaTom> Perhaps some newbies to help?
[08:25] <h3sp4wn> TunaTom: What do you know about cross-compiling ?
[08:26] <TunaTom> h3sp4wn: Since I had LFS and Gentoo running: a bit.
[08:27] <h3sp4wn> TunaTom: I need to cross compile perl for mipsel
[08:27] <TunaTom> h3sp4wn: both give quite some information on that topic.
[08:27] <TunaTom> h3sp4wn: well, how can I help?
[08:28] <h3sp4wn> TunaTom: I don't understand the perl build system at all
[08:28] <TunaTom> h3sp4wn: no one understands that!
[08:29] <mula> hi.. .how can i install kubuntu?
[08:29] <mula> i am newbie :(
[08:29] <cpk2> you download the iso and burn it to a cd
[08:29] <TunaTom> mula: I'd like to help you.
[08:29] <mula> can't I use synaptic?
[08:30] <TunaTom> mula: do you have an ubuntu installation?
[08:30] <mula> TunaTom,  thanks :)
[08:30] <mula> yes... I've just installed Ubuntu 5.10
[08:30] <Thorrn4> pawel, ty so much, it installed!
[08:30] <mula> i'm in it right now
[08:31] <TunaTom> mula: Then it's easy. Just select kubuntu-desktop (or so) in synaptic.
[08:31] <cpk2> mula: you can use apt-get
[08:31] <TunaTom> mula: The other packages will be pulled in.
[08:31] <cpk2> mula: then at log in you just select kde instead of gnome
[08:31] <mula> TunaTom,  thanks, I was in doubt if should I select only kubuntu-desktop or other things togheter...
[08:31] <mula> TunaTom,  thanks!! :)
[08:31] <h3sp4wn> mula: 5.10 is an old version 6.06 is the latest
[08:31] <cpk2> well, you might want other kde apps later
[08:31] <MasterEvilAce> how do i check what programs are installed by apt, using konsole?
[08:32] <mula> cpk2,  thank you too! :)
[08:32] <TunaTom> mula: the dependencies will be resol ved automatically
[08:32] <mula> h3sp4wn,  didn't know.. :( does it update automaticly?
[08:32] <mula> TunaTom,  sounds nice, I will try it now! :) thank you! :)
[08:32] <cpk2> mula: no, you would need to change your sources list to update i think
[08:33] <mula> cpk2, that might take some time :( but i'll try it after installing kubuntu! :)
[08:33] <h3sp4wn> mula: sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/breezy/dapper/i' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade (presuming you are on broadband)
[08:33] <mula> thanks for the help people! I'lll be back later :)
[08:33] <TunaTom> mula: and you should do the upgrade _before_ you install kubuntu, I think.
[08:34] <mula> so I'll update it right now!
[08:34] <seanOne> apt --help
[08:34] <mula> h3sp4wn,  yes, I'm in broadband... :) small one.. 256kbps :(
[08:34] <TunaTom> mula: I'd think so.
[08:35] <TunaTom> mula: Just replace all the "breezy"-entries in your sources.list with "dapper". (like h3sp4wn said above)
[08:36] <pawel> thorn - u welcome
[08:36] <h3sp4wn> mula: May take a while but it should work fine
[08:36] <mula> TunaTom, dapper? where?
[08:36] <TunaTom> mula: do it like h3sp4wn said above.
[08:37] <mula> okkk :) thanks
[08:37] <TunaTom> mula: I repeat it: sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/breezy/dapper/i' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade (presuming you are on broadband)
[08:37] <darius> sveiki gyvi gal kas pagelbeti galetu?
[08:37] <TunaTom> h3sp4wn: That's a nifty way to adjust the sources and have a backup!
[08:37] <mula> TunaTom,  yep... i'm in the 2nd step (sudo aptitude update) now :) thanks :D
[08:38] <TunaTom> h3sp4wn: is -pi.bak a normal perl command-line switch?
[08:38] <lars__> cant get audio, find the sound card but cant get it to work, kmix says : mixer not found
[08:39] <darius> hy
[08:39] <mula> 562mb of download :S ouch
[08:39] <TunaTom> mula: the price for being up to date ;)
[08:39] <DethKlok> How are the man pages stored?
[08:40] <mula> i'll do it tonight... it's better, because I'll have to use windows in some few hours
[08:40] <TunaTom> DethKlok: groff?
[08:40] <TunaTom> mula: okay, good luck for that.
[08:40] <darius> hy
[08:40] <mula> TunaTom,  lol! but the price for a high speed connection here in Brazil is too high :(
[08:40] <TunaTom> mula: and perhaps check if you'd better first upgrade before you dist-upgrade. I'm not sure about that one.
[08:41] <XVampireX> Anyone wanna go to ##windows and yell "WINDOWS IS NOT READY FOR THE DESKTOP!"
[08:41] <mula> TunaTom,  hmm
[08:41] <TunaTom> mula: Well, then It would perhaps be easier to have a shipit CD?
[08:41] <mula> TunaTom,  I made just h3sp4wn  and it's working, already downloading
[08:41] <fdoving> XVampireX: no, that's childish. we don't do that, not here, not in ##windows.
[08:41] <mula> TunaTom,  no no... it would take too long :(
[08:42] <cpk2> mula: you can get a free kubuntu cd, although you might want to wait for edgy to come out for your free cd
[08:42] <TunaTom> mula: If it's too expensive, you can abort it at any time.
[08:42] <lars__> sound problem... finds the sound card but kmix complains about not finding any mixer
[08:42] <mula> TunaTom,  can I just stop the downloading in terminal?
[08:42] <cpk2> mula: ctrl c
[08:42] <TunaTom> mula: Yes: <Crtl>-C
[08:42] <mula> TunaTom,  it expensive to have a fast connection here, that's why i pay for only 256kbps :P
[08:43] <mula> cpk2,  what is edgy? :(
[08:43] <TunaTom> mula: Means: Keep the control key pressed and press the c.
[08:43] <mula> TunaTom, cpk2 oook thanks! :) stopped
[08:43] <TunaTom> mula: the next version of ubuntu. Due on 19.10.
[08:43] <cpk2> mula: edgy is the newest version that should be released in october
[08:43] <mula> hmm... nice :)
[08:43] <edu> Hi
[08:43] <TunaTom> cpk2: hey, that
[08:44] <TunaTom> is my newby.
[08:44] <TunaTom> back
[08:44] <TunaTom> off
[08:44] <mula> but until there i'll be, at least, trying to use this one (not 5.10, but 6.09, right?)
[08:44] <TunaTom> mula: depends.
[08:44] <edu> Will  the next kubuntu release have an xgl helper, like mandriva 2007?
[08:44] <lars__> think this one got it
[08:45] <lars__> xubutu
[08:45] <cpk2> breezy = 5.10 ;dapper = 6.06; edgy = i forget the number
[08:45] <TunaTom> mula: unless you keep the upgrade running, you're technically still using 5.10.
[08:45] <lars__> and packages and guides
[08:45] <fdoving> cpk2: 6.10
[08:45] <mula> TunaTom,  yep.. i'll upgrade it tonight.... it's 15:48 here... :)
[08:46] <fdoving> cpk2: it's year.month
[08:46] <lars__> edu xubuntu is a fork with xgl if i am not wrong ( newbie / interm. )
[08:46] <TunaTom> mula: Afterwards you'll be using 6.04. It's 20:42 here.
[08:46] <lars__> me that is
[08:46] <TunaTom> lars__: xubuntu is using the xfce desktop.
[08:47] <mula> TunaTom,  lol.. anyway.. no problem! :) I'll try to upgrade it this night! :D
[08:47] <mula> *tonight
[08:47] <lars__> ok sry
[08:47] <fdoving> lars__: xubuntu has nothing to do with xgl.. it's just using the xfce desktop. xubuntu.org
[08:47] <fdoving> .. as tunatom said. (i'm to slow).
[08:47] <TunaTom> lars__: edubuntu is for educational purposes, esp. school (desktop and server)
[08:47] <lars__> one of all those funny lib.
[08:47] <mula> cpk2,  h3sp4wn , TunaTom, thanks for the help! gtg now!! :)
[08:48] <TunaTom> mula: cu.
[08:48] <mula> later :)
[08:48] <lars__> why did you mention edubuntu?
[08:48] <lars__> got sound problem...
[08:48] <TunaTom> lars_: you said: "edu xubuntu is a fork with xgl if i am not wrong ( newbie / interm. )"
[08:49] <TunaTom> lars__: I'm not good with sound. Works here, but that's about it :)
[08:49] <lars__> hit name was edu
[08:50] <TunaTom> lars__: oops, sorry.
[08:51] <TunaTom> Be it as it might. At least I helped one newbie. gtg now.
[08:51] <TunaTom> cu
[08:51] <lars__> had it working on this comp. a year back now it is gone and crazy
[08:55] <omar> hello I would like to configure my evolution, I got gmail, and i follow the steps in the guide, what can I do
[08:56] <edu> yup, xubuntu uses xfce...
[08:56] <dcordero> hi
[08:56] <dcordero> i have a problem un kubuntu
[08:56] <edu> I meant an app that would help to set up the 3d card drivers and the xgl system... that would be very useful!
[08:57] <root_____> i need ati drivers
[08:57] <unksi> !ati
[08:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:58] <dcordero> i have 2 partitions on my hd... One primary partition mounted as / where ubuntu are installed, and another partition for save personal data that i want to mount on /media/baulext3... The filesystem of both partition are ext3... The problem is that i can't to write into de data partition from a normal user account
[09:04] <red_> i need ati drivers
[09:06] <red_> where do i get ati drivers
[09:06] <edu> www.ati.com
[09:06] <edu> go to downloads, drivers, and then go to linux...
[09:06] <mattindia> Hey dudes, just wanted to say that i'm happy because i installed all the softwares i used on windows on my kubuntu and it works!
[09:06] <edu> but you'd better do to open adept and search for "fglrx"
[09:06] <red_> ubotu: ati drivers
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:06] <Tm_T> !ati
[09:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:07] <MasterEvilAce> you're so silly ubotu
[09:12] <travis> just a quick question, everytime i try to open deb packages, this comes up "the utility is not in your path please install it or contact system admin"
[09:12] <travis> what do i do?
[09:13] <ScottK> travis:Don't open the packages directly, use Adept or your favorite package manager.
[09:14] <travis> oooh ok
[09:17] <socres> hey hello
[09:17] <socres> has anyone ever tried to get working xgl with kubuntu?
[09:19] <omar> Good quest, I wanted some time ago, but it looks so complicated
[09:21] <mattindia> i have a little problem through: my widescreen works fine with the ATI drivers
[09:21] <mattindia> but when i watch a video full screen it lags a lot; do you have ideas why the ATI driver is not ok?
[09:22] <omar> Do you know a good guide to configure evolution????
[09:22] <omar> one that works at least
[09:23] <fdoving> omar: might get more help in #ubuntu as evolution is the default PIM/mail client in ubuntu.
[09:23] <omar> thanx
[09:26] <Goliath23> hi
[09:27] <Goliath23> since a couple of updates my video-icon-preview doesnt work. neither on desktop nor in konqueror, any idea what that could be or how to enable them?
[09:28] <Goliath23> (the strange thing is, that the tooltip that comes up if I rest the mouse on a video file shows the preview!
[09:28] <Sanne> hi
[09:29] <cpk2> hi
[09:30] <red_> ubotu: ati drivers
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <vvatsa> red_: what would you like too know.
[09:30] <red_> ubotu: ati/nvidia drivers
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati/nvidia drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <cpk2> red_: its !ati
[09:30] <red_> i need to know how to redo my xorg
[09:31] <red_> ubotu: !ati/nvidia drivers
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati/nvidia drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <cpk2> red_: the xorg.conf tells you at the top how to regenerate it if thats what you need
[09:31] <red_> i know there is a link on wiki, but i cant remember it
[09:31] <cpk2> !ati
[09:31] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:31] <vvatsa> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_8.28.8_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually
[09:31] <red_> there it is
[09:31] <edu> bye
[09:34] <zorglu_> to all regular helpers, do you know if there is a stat on the ubotu commands, the most frequently used one etc... would be good to know what are the most common problems seens on irc
[09:36] <cpk2> i bet it has to do with sources
[09:37] <cpk2> people not knowing about the extra repos
[09:37] <MasterEvilAce> yeah
[09:37] <MasterEvilAce> repos is probably it
[09:37] <zorglu_> me too :) but such tools would be good
[09:37] <MasterEvilAce> ubotu isn't very intelligent
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about isn't very intelligent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <MasterEvilAce> i did a search and it said you were not intelligent ubotu :P
[09:38] <zorglu_> i tried recently to motivate #kubuntu-devel to produce some solutions, i even suggested possible solutions, but did get much echo
[09:38] <NthDegree> @lart MasterEvilAce
[09:38] <zorglu_> maybe it would be more convincing with hard number
[09:38] <NthDegree> @pity MasterEvilAce
[09:38] <MasterEvilAce> lol
[09:39] <NthDegree> Ubugtu you fool
[09:39] <MasterEvilAce> ubuntu is a friggin' idiot, gosh!
[09:39] <cpk2> zorglu_: solutions for what?
[09:39] <zorglu_> cpk2: make it easier to install the usual extra repositories
[09:40] <zorglu_> cpk2: a simple .deb would do it, making adding universe something like 'sudo apt-get install config-rep-unniverse'
[09:40] <cpk2> hmm like a script to uncomment the common extra repos?
[09:40] <cpk2> that too
[09:40] <zorglu_> cpk2: yes but wrapped in a .deb to make it easier for users
[09:41] <cpk2> although i bet the help page that pops up when you open konq tells you how to add repos
[09:41] <zorglu_> cpk2: well i am trying to reduce the amount of question we got about repository by making it easier to fix it :)
[09:42] <MasterEvilAce> is there no grub splash in Edgy?
[09:42] <i_luv_beer> anyone know why you need to reload KDE for menu options to pop up?
[09:42] <cpk2> zorglu_: self help does go a long way though =); and there is a managing repos link in the supported html help doc with helpful links
[09:42] <travis> hmm, i still can't open deb files when trying to open with adept, i downloaded one called ksmoothdock.deb and tried ark but it woudln't let me
[09:43] <travis> any ideas?
[09:43] <zorglu_> cpk2: yep but link to link to link and then user doesnt read it and come here to ask :)
[09:43] <OOD> travis: you want to install the deb?
[09:43] <travis> yeah
[09:43] <zorglu_> travis: try "sudo dpkg -i yourpackanamegoeshere.deb"
[09:43] <travis> but it won't let me
[09:44] <travis> ok
[09:44] <Zvezdichko> is there an error
[09:44] <OOD> or right click on it and select the install menu
[09:44] <cpk2> zorglu_: I guess I am more of the linux mindset that you should try to do some reading before anything else
[09:45] <zorglu_> cpk2: i understand what you mean but i purposly spend time with beginer to see how they use their computer. and believe me, reading doc is not part of it :)
[09:46] <cpk2> zorglu_: hehe =D
[09:46] <travis> hey thanks for the tips, i'm a newb
[09:46] <zorglu_> cpk2: in my experience, they do "wow it is too complex, i have no time for this"
[09:46] <zorglu_> travis: it worked ?
[09:47] <cpk2> zorglu_: I suppose though since irc is so easy to use why not take advantage of the easy help?
[09:48] <zorglu_> cpk2: indeed, especially at the very begining when they switch from window to linux
[09:48] <travis> sort of
[09:48] <travis> now its saying dependcy problems
[09:48] <travis> lol
[09:49] <cpk2> zorglu_: i would imagine we might go from telling people to edit source.list to spamming the apt-get command though =P
[09:49] <travis> theres two packages it says i don't have
[09:49] <cpk2> sources*
[09:49] <travis> libqt3c102 and kdelibs4
[09:49] <morphius> ok, so when i try to login using kdm, I'm in a loop. If I put in my password, it takes me back to the login again (after trying to start kde). Upon further research, /dev/null has permission promlems. I have crw-------. So I "chmod a+rw" and now get crw-rw-rw-. Great. restart kdm and can login in fine. Reboot. /dev/null: now at crw------- again. I tried having my very last init script in rcS.d chmod the /dev/null automagically but still no go. Any ide
[09:49] <zorglu_> cpk2: at some point i even proposed to get a url to a irc channel directly on the screen after install :)
[09:49] <cpk2> travis: apt-get them
[09:49] <cpk2> zorglu_: would certainly help alot of people
[09:49] <travis> ok
[09:50] <zorglu_> cpk2: yep, user could cut/past the command and it is less error prone
[09:50] <cpk2> and help those people who dont do *any* research and would never know about irc
[09:51] <kyaneos> hi
[09:51] <zorglu_> cpk2: yep and imagine the thing, "i just installed the cd and ... wow if i click here i can talk to a lot of people having the same problem as me and we can exchange solution" :)
[09:52] <kyaneos> why kubuntu developers are using scriptings languages like Python-PyKDE to develop apps??
[09:52] <cpk2> because they like using python?
[09:52] <zorglu_> kyaneos: you already asked yesterday :) i guess they like this language. why are you looking for another reason ?
[09:53] <kyaneos> mm ok
[09:53] <kyaneos> sorry
[09:53] <kyaneos> thank you
[09:53] <otaku-san> haven't ben on here in a while...ok how would I execute a .bin file?  I'm trying to get a GUI installer to execute
[09:53] <i_luv_beer> what is written in python?
[09:54] <fdoving> morphius: check /etc/udev/rules.d/40-permissions.rules somewhere at the bottom you'll find "null"
[09:54] <cpk2> otaku-san: ./ maybe?
[09:54] <morphius> thanks fdoving. I'll give it a go.
[09:55] <fdoving> morphius: the line should say 'KERNEL=="null",                         MODE="0666"
[09:55] <travis> ugh, ok, i am stupid, what is the command for apt-get?  like the package is libqt3c102, what would the exact command be for it?
[09:55] <otaku-san> cpk2: like in the konsole do ./ then the file....I might just go with the source...I can compile...just wanted to try the GUI
[09:56] <otaku-san> travis: like sudo apt-get install (app) ?
[09:56] <fdoving> travis: sudo apt-get install libqt3c102
[09:56] <travis> ok, i will try it, but i doubt it will work
[09:56] <morphius> fdoving: It does. Does not appear to be the problem.
[09:56] <cpk2> otaku-san: yes ./ filehere
[09:57] <otaku-san> ok I'll try that....if it doesn't work I'll fall back on good ol' trusty compilin'
[09:57] <i_luv_beer> travis: if it doesn't work try apt-get update
[09:57] <fdoving> morphius: then either,  something is changing /dev/nulls permissions after udev has created it. or udev isn't run as it should.
[09:57] <otaku-san> hehe thanks cpk2
[09:57] <cpk2> otaku-san: it work?
[09:57] <morphius> I'm thinking somthing with the xserver or kdm.
[09:58] <i_luv_beer> there is also adept which makes installing packages even more brainless
[09:58] <Sanne> morphius: I once had to disable usplash to get past weird boot problems, you might give it a try.
[09:58] <otaku-san> cpk2: I'm about to try it
[09:58] <otaku-san> just was thanking you for your time
[09:58] <travis> this is what comes up "
[09:58] <travis> Package libqt3c102 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:58] <travis> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:58] <travis> is only available from another source
[09:58] <fdoving> morphius: xserver or kdm doesn't change device permissions.
[09:58] <JFreakCapo> hi, exist some msn client with voice support
[09:58] <fdoving> !info libqt3c102
[09:58] <ubotu> Package libqt3c102 does not exist in any distro I know
[09:58] <fdoving> travis: the package doesn't exist.
[09:58] <morphius> sanne: I once had to hold down the shift key on a computer to get it to become usable. Maybe I'll give that a try too huh? ;)
[09:58] <cpk2> i_luv_beer: i think the cli apt-get is alot more clear
[09:59] <travis> ugh, then why are they saying its dependent on it
[09:59] <fdoving> who says?
[09:59] <Sanne> morphius: I was not joking...
[09:59] <morphius> sanne: I know.
[09:59] <travis> ksmoothdock is saying it
[09:59] <travis> whenever i try to install the deb
[09:59] <fdoving> !ksmoothdock
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksmoothdock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <fdoving> !info ksmoothdock
[09:59] <ubotu> Package ksmoothdock does not exist in any distro I know
[09:59] <travis> its from kde-look.org
[09:59] <Thorrn4> hello, I accidently deleted my "/usr/java" directory while trying to move a file, is there a way to get it back?
[10:00] <Sanne> morphius: well, after disabling usplash I could log in, so... but do as you like :)
[10:00] <travis> i like the dock from mac osx
[10:00] <fdoving> travis: that explains it. it's unofficial.
[10:00] <morphius> Sanne: It's just a wild shot in the dark. But I'm willing to try it anyway. I also wasn't joking. I seriously did get a computer that did that.
[10:00] <Dendron> --------How do i install XUBUNTU without a LIVE CD? IS that what the alternate CD is for?
[10:00] <travis> heh
[10:00] <fdoving> Thorrn4: basically, no.
[10:00] <i_luv_beer> !info kvdocker
[10:00] <ubotu> Package kvdocker does not exist in any distro I know
[10:00] <i_luv_beer> !info kvdock
[10:00] <Thorrn4> fdoving, wat is inside it, anything important?
[10:00] <ubotu> Package kvdock does not exist in any distro I know
[10:00] <cpk2> Dendron: use apt-get
[10:00] <i_luv_beer> ...
[10:00] <Sanne> morphius: ah, haha! Well, I disabled it in /boot/grub/menu.list. If you need assistance, just shout :)
[10:00] <i_luv_beer> one sec
[10:01] <Thorrn4> fdoving, I was trying to install java, but its not working still
[10:01] <Dendron> ----cpk2i have a fresh HDD with nothing on it
[10:01] <Thorrn4> !java
[10:01] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:01] <cpk2> Dendron: i believer you can get any of the *ubuntu from any *ubuntu install
[10:01] <fdoving> Thorrn4: probably nothing that can't be re-installed easily.
[10:01] <JFreakCapo> exist some msn client with voice support
[10:01] <JFreakCapo> ??
[10:01] <morphius> Sanne: I got it. I'll give it a try as soon as I'm finished with some other stuff. Thanks!
[10:01] <otaku-san> cpk2: hehehe it keeps on complaining that ./ is a directory....hmmmm I know there is a command to execute bins....
[10:01] <Sanne> morphius: ak, good luck
[10:01] <i_luv_beer> travis
[10:01] <otaku-san> dang this channel is hoppin
[10:01] <i_luv_beer> try apt-get install kxdocker
[10:01] <cpk2> Dendron: or you could just go to xubuntu.org
[10:01] <i_luv_beer> !kxdocker
[10:01] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.39-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 253 kB, installed size 832 kB
[10:01] <cpk2> otaku-san: try sh
[10:02] <otaku-san> yeah
[10:02] <Dendron> ------The LIVE CD hangs. Will the Alternate CD work better then a live CD?
[10:02] <fdoving> Thorrn4: you can use 'dpkg -S /usr/java' to see what packages had files there.
[10:02] <cpk2> Dendron: its possible, did you check the live cd for errors?
[10:02] <Dendron> yeah
[10:02] <fdoving> Thorrn4: then you can use 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall list of packages separated by spaces'
[10:02] <zorglu_> all the boot option to make it eaise r? :)
[10:02] <Sanne> Dendron: some people have more luck with the alternate, worth a try
[10:02] <travis> i_luv_beer i do have kxdocker, but everytime it starts up, tons of things go wrong, like they have all these files pop up and i would rather have something more stable
[10:02] <otaku-san> i_luv_beer: Oh man...kxdocker was a pain for me to install...forgot how!  I know it was a pain...doesn't work either
[10:02] <Dendron> ---thanks!
[10:02] <zorglu_> apci=off and stuff
[10:03] <Dendron> ---i will give it a try.
[10:03] <Thorrn4> fdoving, the whole folder is gone: "dpkg: /usr/java not found"
[10:03] <i_luv_beer> otaku-san: uh "apt-get install kxdocker"? :P
[10:03] <i_luv_beer> but yeah I never used it
[10:03] <i_luv_beer> I did install it but I perfer kicker
[10:03] <travis> heh, i don't like kxdocker
[10:03] <travis> whats kicker?
[10:04] <cpk2> i could have sworn ./ executed bins?
[10:04] <otaku-san> no I had to do it another way...I think I compiled it...it was my first compiling and everything went wrong
[10:04] <otaku-san> that to i_luv_beer
[10:04] <i_luv_beer> travis: the default panel of KDE
[10:04] <otaku-san> cpk2: um....it's saying it cannot execute the bin
[10:04] <travis> heh ok
[10:04] <Thorrn4> fdoving, I found the help site, ty for the help
[10:04] <otaku-san> shite...I'll just compile it...
[10:05] <i_luv_beer> !superkambaramba
[10:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about superkambaramba - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:05] <i_luv_beer> hmm
[10:05] <tsdgeos> !superkaramba
[10:05] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[10:05] <travis> yeah, but those are widgets
[10:05] <travis> not a dock
[10:05] <travis> i favor docks
[10:06] <travis> unfortunatly
[10:06] <travis> oh well, i guess i can wait until a stable version comes out or something
[10:06] <i_luv_beer> it sorta worked for me
[10:06] <i_luv_beer> I just hated the configuration screen
[10:06] <i_luv_beer> too confusing
[10:06] <travis> yeah
[10:07] <travis> and since i am a newb, i don't exactly know totally what i am looking at
[10:08] <tuxi> hi
[10:08] <tuxi> anyone running ubuntu / kubuntu on vpc?
[10:08] <otaku-san> cpk2: d00d your thinking ./install.sh
[10:08] <otaku-san> hehehe
[10:10] <i_luv_beer> hmm I got it working
[10:10] <i_luv_beer> you have it installed travis?
[10:10] <i_luv_beer> go into "Run" in the KDE menu, type "kxdocker"
[10:10] <i_luv_beer> btw anytime you want to load a package all you gotta do is type the name
[10:10] <i_luv_beer> either in console or at a run prompt
[10:10] <i_luv_beer> very nice feature of linux command line
[10:11] <Thorrn4> I have a problem with installing the Mozilla-flash pluggin - http://paste.uni.cc/10249 its not installing and its giving me an error
[10:12] <i_luv_beer> Thorrn4: you using amd64, or ppc?
[10:12] <Thorrn4> no, x86
[10:12] <i_luv_beer> !easyubuntu
[10:12] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:12] <travis> heh, yeah but i can't configure the kxdocker to be at the top of the screen or right or left, it owon't let me
[10:12] <i_luv_beer> try that
[10:13] <sybux> How can I watch divx movie on kubu ?
[10:14] <fdoving> !codecs
[10:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:14] <sybux> thx
[10:14] <i_luv_beer> yeah it's grayed out for me too
[10:14] <i_luv_beer> I really hate it's configuration dialog
[10:14] <i_luv_beer> very ugly
[10:14] <cpk2> otaku-san: oh, oops
[10:15] <zorglu_> fdoving: do you know if ubotu can provide stat about the usage frequency for each of its command ?
[10:15] <i_luv_beer> someone make a ksmoothdock package plz :p
[10:15] <fdoving> zorglu_: not that i'm aware of.
[10:15] <zorglu_> fdoving: ok
[10:15] <mushroomblue> msg nickserv identify halofive
[10:15] <fdoving> zorglu_: you can read about him at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:15] <mushroomblue> oh my god I know I didn't just do that.
[10:15] <mushroomblue> kbye
[10:15] <zorglu_> mushroomblue: time to change password :)
[10:15] <fdoving> mushroomblue: i suggest changing that password fast :)
[10:16] <mushroomblue> yup.
[10:16] <i_luv_beer> lol
[10:16] <i_luv_beer> SO TEMPTING
[10:16] <fdoving> zorglu_: https://bot.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?order=popularity%20DESC&page=0
[10:16] <fdoving> zorglu_: sorted by popularity, most pop. first.
[10:17] <otaku-san> cpk2: kinda depends on the filename...and it has to be .sh  So it would be ./(install file..probably called install).sh
[10:17] <zorglu_> fdoving: yep just looking at it, thanks :)
[10:17] <mushroomblue> wow. that was officially the lamest thing I've done on IRC.
[10:17] <mushroomblue> kbye. :)
[10:17] <i_luv_beer> I always type password in status screen
[10:17] <Thorrn4> i_luv_beer, I installed, but its not loading
[10:18] <i_luv_beer> did you copy paste the stuff said into terminal/
[10:18] <cpk2> I have my client send my login when i connect to irc
[10:18] <i_luv_beer> make sure to hit ENTER too
[10:19] <i_luv_beer> last commnad will not got executed without hitting enter
[10:20] <cpk2> otaku-san: i guess i normally just use .installs =P
[10:21] <otaku-san> hehe
[10:22] <otaku-san> there is a .deb install for the file on they're site...but I don't know how to get those to work
[10:22] <cpk2> otaku-san: use dpkg
[10:23] <cpk2> i think it would be dpkg -i installthis.deb
[10:23] <otaku-san> you mean point the file in konsole and put in dpkg (file) /
[10:23] <zorglu_> cpk2: about our previous discussion, it is there https://bot.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu&order=popularity%20DESC&page=0 quite educationnal, in fact repository is only third
[10:23] <otaku-san> oh question answered
[10:24] <Raul12> does alternate cd of kbuntu.iso is text or graphical installation
[10:24] <cpk2> if you are using the .deb otaku-san you would just do dpkg -i installthis.deb
[10:24] <tsdgeos>  alternate is text afaik
[10:24] <cpk2> might need sudo to do it
[10:24] <otaku-san> hmmm ok
[10:24] <Raul12> is alternate is tuff to install ?
[10:24] <cpk2> zorglu_: i think they need to fix their certificate
[10:24] <Raul12> any help how to install
[10:25] <zorglu_> cpk2: yep :) but it is another issue
[10:25] <cpk2> zorglu_: haha pastebin is second
[10:25] <Sanne> Raul12: alternate is not hard. Only if you plan to do custom partitions you need to concentrate a bit, but that's also not hard.
[10:26] <zorglu_> cpk2: :)
[10:26] <cpk2> zorglu_: is this just from the ubuntu channel or all the channels?
[10:26] <zorglu_> cpk2: all the channel the bot is on, from what i understand
[10:26] <cpk2> wow compiz is 4th
[10:27] <Raul12> Sanne any written document on alternate installation ?
[10:27] <zorglu_> cpk2: yep this eyes candy will do real good for linux
[10:27] <i_luv_beer> Raul12: both are easy, but the standard one allows you to use live-cd
[10:27] <i_luv_beer> Raul12: the alternate one allows you to script installations
[10:27] <i_luv_beer> so it is better if you want to install ubuntu on like 100 computers
[10:27] <pielgrzym> anybody knows how to move /boot to another partition? I got a very first partition with an exact copy of boot. grub boots with this partition - all I need to do is change fstab? :) help plz! :)
[10:28] <cpk2> zorglu_: yeah people coming from windows probably care most about "does it look pretty?" and "can i do everything from gui?"
[10:28] <Sanne> Raul12: I don't know of any links, sorry, but I'm sure they could be found if you try to search.
[10:28] <otaku-san> cpk2: *mouth drops open*  ....that was kinda sick how easy that was....*gently pokes box*
[10:28] <zorglu_> cpk2: i could not agree more :)
[10:28] <cpk2> otaku-san: dpkg is basically the same as using apt-get =D
[10:29] <cpk2> although i think all the user friendly stuff like apt-get is great, I enjoy being lazy
[10:29] <otaku-san> cpk2: it installed...lets see if it works...hehehe ;)  Yeah...just more manual labor!!! ;p
[10:29] <otaku-san> heheh I agree with you
[10:29] <otaku-san> Linux Users = Lazy ;)
[10:29] <cpk2> no one likes having to go through installing tons of libs just to compile something and install
[10:30] <otaku-san> no kidding
[10:30] <otaku-san> thats all I did to get Linux up to snuff....
[10:30] <tuxi> cpk2, there are still gentoo users
[10:31] <cpk2> tuxi: yes, i have been linked some slashdot quotes =P
[10:32] <arcasa> How can I get .wmv files to play properly? (Kubuntu Dapper amd64)
[10:32] <zorglu_> !codec
[10:32] <tuxi> arcasa, think you can use ms dlls
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <zorglu_> !codecd
[10:33] <zorglu_> !codecs
[10:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codecd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:33] <zorglu_> there :)
[10:33] <arcasa> ms dlls?
[10:34] <tuxi> microsoft dynamic link libarys
[10:34] <cpk2> tuxi: 'Gentoo doesn't ask what it can do to make things easier, it asks you exactly what it is that you want it to do, and then does precisely and only that.'
[10:34] <MasterEvilAce> what's a good image viewer? where i can load up a folder of images and just step through them
[10:34] <arcasa> Well according to Restricted Formats I can't play them.
[10:34] <cpk2> =P
[10:34] <otaku-san> cpk2: New something was up when it went easily....it won't come up...maybe I need to poke it a bit
[10:34] <arcasa> Maaan amd64 sucks. Why doesn't anyone bother helping us out?
[10:34] <pielgrzym> anybody knows how to move /boot to another partition? I got a very first partition with an exact copy of boot. grub boots with this partition - all I need to do is change fstab? :) help plz! :)
[10:34] <zorglu_> arcasa: you can with the w32codec if the wmv has no drm
[10:35] <arcasa> I don't have any win32codecs.
[10:35] <arcasa> Where do i get them?
[10:35] <zorglu_> via the url i gave you at first :)
[10:35] <zorglu_> several command to do
[10:35] <cpk2> otaku-san: whats the program?
[10:36] <otaku-san> its called CastPodder
[10:36] <arcasa> Restricted formats?
[10:36] <cpk2> doesnt start at all?
[10:36] <otaku-san> ack restricted format!
[10:36] <otaku-san> ....I type castpodder into konsole....nothing
[10:36] <cpk2> i am lauging reading this article on gentoo
[10:37] <arcasa> AMD64 architecture
[10:37] <arcasa> The Windows Codecs package cannot be used directly by the AMD64 distribution. Some people solve this problem by installing the i386 Ubuntu distribution inside a chroot (for example, Linux Vserver or [WWW]  dchroot), and this works very well.
[10:37] <arcasa> Fuck.
[10:37] <cpk2> !language
[10:37] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:37] <arcasa> !language
[10:37] <otaku-san> I do it then like this CastPodder...a whole jumble of stuff comes up...complaining...but Castpodder doesn't come up
[10:37] <arcasa> Aww... don't work for me.
[10:37] <otaku-san> ...hehehe thats cuz cpk2 did it first
[10:38] <otaku-san> I think the bot has a certain timelimit before it can be used again
[10:38] <otaku-san> to prevent bot abuse and flooding
[10:39] <arcasa> How come after 3 years, No one's provided any support for amd64?
[10:39] <arcasa> I can't play wmv now. That sucks.
[10:39] <arcasa> But you'd have thought, after 3 years, someone woulda fixed that.
[10:39] <otaku-san> cpk2: I tried going into usr/bin...found a script shell no exe
[10:39] <zorglu_> arcasa: an possibility would be to run on 32bit
[10:39] <one> hi evry1
[10:39] <arcasa> You mean reinstall kubuntu?
[10:40] <one> just getting back 2 kubuntu, need sum sggestions
[10:40] <arcasa> Why on earth would I do that! amd64 is the newest... Should be the best! But no one thinks to update.
[10:40] <cpk2> otaku-san: they have any notes about it from where you got the dpkg?
[10:40] <otaku-san> arcasa: d00d 64 is still in the infant stage...sad I know...so change to 32...that means compleatly getting a new CD image
[10:40] <arcasa> I don't want to change to 32 bit.
[10:41] <arcasa> It would be a waste of an AMD 64 4000+
[10:41] <zorglu_> arcasa: the 64bit is in progress, sorry for the incovenience
[10:41] <arcasa> Progress? 3 damn years!
[10:41] <otaku-san> arcasa: Winbloze has almost no support
[10:41] <arcasa> But Windows works.
[10:42] <arcasa> And the pride of the Ubuntu premise is that the community are always updating.. Making it better.
[10:42] <zorglu_> arcasa: so you have 2 alternatives, either ubuntu in 32bit or window, it is up to you to choose
[10:42] <otaku-san> arcasa: not all the way...64 is still new....nobody is totally willing to go over
[10:42] <arcasa> Well after 3 years, and still no wmv or wine support... i think that is a failure.
[10:42] <cpk2> you are blaming ubuntu that wine doesnt work?
[10:42] <zorglu_> arcasa: if you are not satified with ubuntu, you can use window. ubuntu want user to be satisfied
[10:42] <arcasa> So how the hell am I gonna watch porn now?
[10:43] <arcasa> I don't want to use windows dammnit. Windows suck.
[10:43] <otaku-san> cpk2: ok....they do have something on it....but the links borked
[10:43] <zorglu_> arcasa: well ok so you complain about everybody :)
[10:43] <arcasa> It's computing for morons.  There's not much free developers can do with proprietary formats, because of legal issues. That said, there are ways for 64but users, hold on, I'll get you a link.
[10:43] <MasterEvilAce> yeah entertainment is :-/ on ubuntu. Lots of videos i can't play because codecs and stuff just don't work.
[10:44] <zorglu_> arcasa: we proposed you all the solutions available and none satisfy you
[10:44] <MasterEvilAce> or not easily, atleast
[10:44] <cpk2> you can always try using the plf repo for codecs
[10:44] <otaku-san> .........how about automatix or easyubuntu
[10:44] <arcasa> I do not want windows. Nor do I want to lose all my files by reinstalling.
[10:44] <arcasa> plf repo? Explain please.
[10:44] <cpk2> arcasa: why would you lose all your files?
[10:44] <cpk2> !plf
[10:44] <ubotu> plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc
[10:44] <Sanne> arcasa: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191205
[10:44] <insparedes> !es
[10:44] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:44] <zorglu_> plf wont do any good tho :)
[10:45] <cpk2> !easysource
[10:45] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:45] <arcasa> Because if I install the new kernel, my old one, including my files, would be overwritten.
[10:45] <cpk2> that might have some non-free repos
[10:45] <otaku-san> I think Hawkwind has something on getting all the good repos
[10:45] <cpk2> arcasa: move your important data to a different partition?
[10:45] <Monchito> good afternoon
[10:45] <cpk2> and changing your kernel overwrites nothing
[10:46] <Josh_> how come my c++ compiler won't recognize the g++ command?
[10:46] <Josh_> i've already downloaded the build-essential package
[10:46] <arcasa> It formats my drive! How can that overwrite nothing?!
[10:46] <steveire> it's gcc
[10:47] <zorglu_> arcasa is definitly a though client :)
[10:47] <Sanne> arcasa: expecially for wmv: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188974
[10:47] <Josh_> steveire i know its gcc
[10:47] <Josh_> Jucato: you around?
[10:48] <arcasa> How long do you think until they start giving amd64 PROPER support?
[10:48] <lynx> ontno
[10:48] <zorglu_> arcasa: unpredictable
[10:48] <cpk2> arcasa: when you compile a new kernel all you do is add a new kernel to your machine (can be big or small, depends on how much you compile in) and then you can choose to boot from that kernel or any other numerous kernels you may have installed
[10:48] <zorglu_> arcasa: but likely long
[10:48] <travis> anyone know a good dvd ripper?
[10:48] <lynx> no
[10:48] <zorglu_> arcasa: using your meaning of 'proper' :)
[10:48] <cpk2> arcasa: probably around the time they start phasing out 32bit
[10:48] <Monchito> no man sorry
[10:49] <Sanne> arcasa: the ubuntu devs already do that. The rest is up to the corporations.
[10:49] <Josh_> anyone know what i need to do to make my compiler recognize the g++ command?
[10:49] <zorglu_> Josh_: what do you mean ? g++ is the compiler
[10:49] <arcasa> I have a dream. A dream where 32 bit kernels... and 64 bit kernels... Can live together in peace... Sharing the same abilities and compatibilities.
[10:50] <zorglu_> arcasa: well unfortunatly it is a dream
[10:50] <Josh_> zorglu: here is my problem, i coded c++ program on xemacs, it asks for the make, and i type n g++ etc. then it says
[10:50] <Sanne> arcasa: why do you need a 32bit kernel on a 64bit ubuntu?
[10:50] <sinpath> need help >.< windows user now useing linux " i need some help with setting up my all-in-one printer
[10:50] <cpk2> i'm sure 64bit will be backwards compatible
[10:50] <Josh_> my compilation exited abnormally because /b/bin/bash: g++: command not
[10:51] <otaku-san> cpk2: it has to be...no one would change over...
[10:51] <Josh_> command not found
[10:51] <zorglu_> Josh_: ok type "which g++" in a terminal
[10:51] <cpk2> otaku-san: nonsense, the companies can do whatever they want, you cant put an agp card into a pci-e slot now can you? =P
[10:51] <arcasa> I wish all you 32 bit people would evolve to 64 :P
[10:51] <zorglu_> Josh_: what does it say ?
[10:52] <arcasa> It's such a shame that the human race are so pathetic when it comes to moving onto something new.
[10:52] <arcasa> The energy crisis is a perfect example.
[10:52] <zorglu_> arcasa: please behave and watch the language
[10:52] <otaku-san> well my mplayer is borked....always has been...anyone know of another player I could use for firefox
[10:52] <Josh_> zorglu: which g++ in the terminal brought up nothing for me
[10:52] <otaku-san> cpk2: true true
[10:52] <zorglu_> Josh_: so it is not installed
[10:52] <arcasa> We COULD just use windfarms and other safe things... But NO. Human race wants to drain all the natural resources... Then complain... Then suffer.
[10:52] <cpk2> arcasa: i purposefully dont have a 64bit because i know it is still new and has very little support
[10:52] <sinpath> i need some help with setting up my all-in-one printer hp printer wont run or isnt detected
[10:53] <cpk2> not to mention very little people are optimizing for 64bit
[10:53] <arcasa> I really find it hard to belive that something can still be classed as "new" after 3 years.
[10:53] <Sanne> Josh_, zorglu_: package build-essential?
[10:53] <Josh_> zorglu: what do i need to download? i thought i needed to download the build-essential package
[10:53] <zorglu_> Sanne: he said he installed it, trying to narrow down the issue
[10:53] <otaku-san> arcasa: I understand your point but whining about it won't help...get out there and do something!  We need more pushing and work and less whining and sitting
[10:54] <sinpath> can any one help me with my printer?
[10:54] <Sanne> zorglu_: sorry, didn't catch it, will be silent now ;)
[10:54] <cpk2> and you cant put a windfarm in any old place
[10:54] <Monchito> what is da problemman?
[10:54] <arcasa> Otaku... I started Kubuntu 6 days ago. I WISH I could "get out there and do something!"... But I really can't. No where near skilled enough.
[10:54] <zorglu_> Sanne: no need to be sorry, only updating you :)
[10:54] <Sanne> zorglu_: thanks :)
[10:55] <zorglu_> arcasa: well learn and then contribute
[10:55] <zorglu_> !build-essential
[10:55] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:55] <Monchito> sinpath: what is da problem?
[10:55] <Josh_> zorglu: i'll be right back i think i found the problem but i may needyour help again
[10:55] <zorglu_> ok
[10:55] <sinpath> it wont detect it
[10:55] <arcasa> I am learning... A couple of days ago I couldn't run a terminal... I couldn't make my way through my files in a terminal.... I'm actually amazed how quickly I'v picked it up.
[10:56] <cpk2> the best way to learn is by abandoning windows so you *have* to figure it out or you cant get done what you want
[10:57] <otaku-san> arcasa: me neither man!  I've been using Linux all of like 2 months!  I'm so n00b it's not even funny.  But here is an answer.  save your files to disk, key drive.  nuke the 64 bit ubuntu.  Change over to 32 bit...learn on that!  And then once your knowlegable go back to 64 bit
[10:57] <cpk2> btw otaku-sanyou try dpkg-reconfigure castpodder
[10:57] <otaku-san> and it might have better support by then
[10:57] <otaku-san> cpk2: cool...trying that now
[10:57] <cpk2> might give you some setup optioins
[10:57] <sinpath> linux is a first for me & i dont have the set up disk for  it which i was told wont work
[10:57] <arcasa> No man.... I find the principle of DOWNGRADING my kernel....  There are solutions to most 64bit problems. If you get stuck with details, come back here for help.
[10:58] <otaku-san> arcasa: then your unwilling to LEARN!
[10:58] <cpk2> then learn how to build a 64bit program and help the community
[10:58] <zorglu_> arcasa: please avoid all the insult everywhere
[10:58] <cpk2> err system not program
[10:58] <arcasa> I have read.
[10:58] <arcasa> I read them while trying to install wine.
[10:58] <|lostbyte|> ANy one here installed ubuntu server edition ?
[10:58] <arcasa> it's impossible without a chroot... And that is something I won't do.
[10:58] <otaku-san> arcasa: to learn you have to crawl before walking....using 64 ubuntu is like using a beta...it's not for a n00b...go back...then work forward
[10:59] <Sanne> arcasa: I have wine on a 64bit system without chroot.
[11:00] <otaku-san> cpk2: ok I did that and it waited for a sec then went back to normal
[11:00] <cpk2> no configure options?
[11:00] <travis> man, i wish you could make the default clock just say the am pm time, instead of military time
[11:00] <Sanne> arcasa: for wine, I pretty much followed this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185557
[11:01] <cpk2> travis: you can
[11:01] <travis> you can?
[11:01] <cpk2> travis: right click the time then go to date time format
[11:01] <arcasa> Does the wine work?
[11:02] <otaku-san> cpk2: nope...no config options
[11:02] <cpk2> otaku-san: did anyone else make any debs of it? maybe its a broken deb?
[11:02] <otaku-san> Sanne: I think arcasa is asking you that...if you missed it
[11:02] <travis> i tried that, i don't see anythign to change into am and pm
[11:02] <Sanne> arcasa: talking to me? Of so, please mention my name so I get highlighted by my chat program. So far, what I wanted to run with wine works so much as to be expected, at least not worse than on 32bit.
[11:02] <|lostbyte|> !fork
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fork - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <arcasa> Sanne: Does it work properly :P
[11:02] <|lostbyte|> !find fork
[11:02] <cpk2> travis: go to the date and time tab
[11:02] <ubotu> Found: libprefork-perl, apache2-mpm-prefork, apache2-prefork-dev
[11:02] <|lostbyte|> :(
[11:03] <Sanne> otaku-san: yeah, just figured, thanks :)
[11:03] <arcasa> One single thing I miss about Windows.... Is Tibia :(
[11:03] <sinpath> that sucks
[11:03] <cpk2> travis: change hh:mm:ss to the other options
[11:03] <otaku-san> Sanne: np
[11:03] <Sanne> arcasa: as much as you can expect, yes.
[11:03] <arcasa> Sanne: Thanks dude.
[11:03] <otaku-san> cpk2:  sadly it's just one deb file....
[11:03] <Sanne> arcasa: /me no dude ;) but you're welcome
[11:04] <cpk2> otaku-san: too bad that link with the notes you mentioned is broken =\
[11:04] <arcasa> Just a random question... How old is everyone?
[11:04] <arcasa> I'm 14.
[11:04] <cpk2> otaku-san: guess you might want to try uninstalling with dpkg and then compiling
[11:04] <travis> ah yes, i did that, but its still on military time, do i ahve to restart the computer?
[11:04] <sinpath> 25 & no clue with linux
[11:04] <Sanne> lol
[11:05] <cpk2> travis: did you apply the changes?
[11:05] <travis> yup
[11:05] <travis> and something came up and i clicked yes
[11:05] <cpk2> i dont see why kdm would have to be restarted
[11:05] <otaku-san> cpk2: hehehe yeah...it sux0rz  Hmmm let me check the tarball...
[11:06] <travis> hmm, it says if i want to change language(which i don't) i have to logout
[11:06] <travis> heh
[11:06] <travis> thats silly
[11:07] <|lostbyte|> Listen up, i have a laptop cdrom is crashed and there ant a floopy drive on it. How do i install kubuntu on it ...........?
[11:07] <cpk2> sinpath: how is your printer plugged into your machine?
[11:07] <sinpath> usb
[11:07] <cpk2> |lostbyte|: network install?
[11:07] <arcasa> Thanks Sanne :D I now have wine installed on amd64 :D:D:D:D
[11:07] <otaku-san> travis: yes you have to logout...
[11:07] <arcasa> Now to try and install Tibia. . .
[11:07] <cpk2> sinpath: does it show up if you do lsusb?
[11:07] <|lostbyte|> cpk2, does'nt that need a floopy.
[11:07] <|lostbyte|> ?
[11:07] <cpk2> !printer
[11:07] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:07] <travis> heh alright
[11:07] <sinpath> its an all in one hp1350
[11:07] <otaku-san> arcasa: see...you just had to wait for someone who knew.  Have fun man
[11:07] <sinpath> whats a lsusb?
[11:08] <cpk2> sinpath: open a terminal and type "lsusb
[11:08] <cpk2> "
[11:08] <cpk2> without quotes
[11:08] <Sanne> arcasa: hey, congrats! :)
[11:08] <lupine_85>  sinpath: HP are generally well-supported. Have you tried adding it using the control panel?
[11:08] <lupine_85> (just got in from work!)
[11:08] <arcasa> Why do corporations hate our guts?
[11:08] <sinpath> ok i'll try that thanks cpk2
[11:08] <|lostbyte|> any one ?
[11:09] <sinpath> umm no im new to linux
[11:09] <arcasa> Does M$ pay them off behind our backs or something?
[11:09] <arcasa> Just to make our lives difficult?
[11:09] <cpk2> |lostbyte|: some motherboards can do networking with the bios
[11:09] <lupine_85> |lostbyte|: see the wiki for alternative install options
[11:09] <ahmeni> Is there a package that has the vim kpart in dapper or edgy?
[11:09] <lupine_85> !install
[11:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:09] <lupine_85> mwahahaha
[11:10] <|lostbyte|> cpk2, lupine_85, yes my laptop suport the ethernet boot
[11:10] <lupine_85> you don't need it.
[11:10] <lupine_85> see the link above
[11:10] <arcasa> wine: creating configuration directory '/home/arcasa/.wine'...
[11:10] <arcasa> X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[11:10] <arcasa>   Major opcode of failed request:  142 (GLX)
[11:10] <arcasa>   Minor opcode of failed request:  3 (X_GLXCreateContext)
[11:10] <arcasa>   Serial number of failed request:  14
[11:11] <arcasa>   Current serial number in output stream:  15
[11:11] <arcasa> wine: wineprefixcreate failed while creating '/home/arcasa/.wine'.
[11:11] <arcasa> arcasa@Alchemy:~$ wwineserver: could not save registry branch to /home/arcasa/.wine-kA9BF2/system.reg : No such file or directory
[11:11] <arcasa> wineserver: could not save registry branch to /home/arcasa/.wine-kA9BF2/user.reg : No such file or directory
[11:11] <arcasa> wine tibia781.exe
[11:11] <arcasa> Sorry about the long post. . . .
[11:11] <otaku-san> arcasa: d00d stop posting that in the channel!  Use pastebin
[11:11] <otaku-san> !pastebin
[11:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:11] <|lostbyte|> lupine_85, been there dude, only possible tecq from there was ethernet install and usbstick.
[11:11] <arcasa> OK I'll do that next time... Can anyone help me?
[11:11] <|lostbyte|> lupine_85, left out usbstick cause i only have a 512 mb one
[11:11] <|lostbyte|> i was so close.
[11:12] <otaku-san> arcasa: you might want to google it
[11:12] <otaku-san> let it sit there a while and see if anyone knows
[11:12] <|lostbyte|> any one here done the network boot ?
[11:12] <cpk2> |lostbyte|: you can "make" your own install iso to make it smaller
[11:13] <Sanne> arcasa: can you run winecfg (from a terminal)?
[11:13] <|lostbyte|> cpk2, link me.
[11:13] <lupine_85> can you boot from a USB stick?
[11:13] <lupine_85> (forget about the size for now)
[11:14] <|lostbyte|> lupine_85, yes, i can. but i wasnt a kubuntu iso of, 490 MB
[11:14] <|lostbyte|> its only a 512 mb stick
[11:14] <|lostbyte|> wasnt/want*
[11:15] <arcasa> No I can't run winecfg.
[11:15] <arcasa> I get that stupid error.
[11:15] <|GaiJin|> what is the command for making firefox opening a url in a new tab rather than a new window??
[11:15] <klerfayt> konqueror goes crazy if I type   man:xorg.conf  into address bar
[11:15] <|lostbyte|> |GaiJin|, mozilla-firefox <url>
[11:15] <lupine_85> |lostbyte|: the ptoblem with booting from ethernet is that you need another system to boot *from* - and I doubt you have that. But, you can install "any other" - smaller - linux onto the USB stick, and bootstrap Ubuntu from there
[11:15] <|lostbyte|> argh
[11:16] <lupine_85>  sinpath: what's the exact name of your printer?
[11:17] <cpk2> |lostbyte|: well i lost the link
[11:17] <|lostbyte|> lupine_85, yes, i have another kubuntu system, i am on it right now.
[11:17] <|lostbyte|> :o
[11:17] <arcasa> Anyone got any ideas for this error?
[11:17] <klerfayt> could someone type  man:xorg.conf  into konqueror address bar and see if it works?
[11:17] <|lostbyte|> lupine_85, the guide on wiki.ubuntu.com, for netinstal. are you referening to that one.
[11:18] <|lostbyte|> refering*
[11:18] <lupine_85> I'm not referring anything :). going from memory
[11:18] <ahmeni> Aww, looks like kvim and the vimpart project shut down :(
[11:18] <lupine_85> if you can do the netboot, that might be easier but I've never done it
[11:18] <arcasa> X Error of failed request:  BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[11:18] <arcasa> When i run winecfg
[11:19] <arcasa> Someone save my soul. Please.
[11:19] <cpk2> lupine_85: you know anything about changing the iso install to include/exclude what you want
[11:19] <|lostbyte|> lupine_85, dude, like you said you need to boot from another pc. i was wondering which method your talking about ?
[11:19] <lupine_85> |lostbyte|: for net boot, you need another PC to serve the OS to the booting PC.
[11:19] <lupine_85> you have that - so give it a go
[11:20] <|lostbyte|> lupine_85, Alright..
[11:20] <lupine_85> xpk2: not really. Personally, I'd fude it by copying the contents of the .iso to a new directory, deleting anything I didn't want on the CD, then using mkisofs (or whatever) to recreate the ISP
[11:20] <lupine_85> ISO*. No doubt you'd need to do something to keep it bootable, but I don't know what
[11:23] <|lostbyte|> lupine_85, is this what i need to do -----> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot ? just making sure..
[11:24] <Sanne> arcasa: sorry, if you did all as written in the tread I posted, it should work. I used that and didn't get an error. Maybe ask on ubuntuforums in the 64bit section, or ask in #winehq?
[11:25] <ahmeni> |lostbyte|: yeah, that should do what you need
[11:25] <|lostbyte|> tx
[11:26] <arcasa> Sanne: I'm asking in wineHQ now :P
[11:27] <Sanne> arcasa: good luck :)
[11:31] <otaku-san> cpk2: Adept Manager says castpodder is installed
[11:35] <wheatear> hello everyone :)
[11:36] <steveire> flashplugin-nonfree is giving me hassle since an upgrade. Anything I can do about that?
[11:36] <arcasa> Molotov everything?
[11:38] <wheatear> anyone got a sec to answer a question or three?
[11:39] <MasterEvilAce> wheatear: just ask it :)
[11:41] <wheatear> ok... :)  well how do I go about compiling and installing the skge module?
[11:43] <wheatear> I've been instructed to do this: sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall linux-headers-`uname -r`
[11:43] <wheatear> which I see has installed g++, make etc
[11:44] <wheatear> and thats as far as i've got :P
[11:44] <Knifa> my spare computer doesn't like the kubuntu disc ._.
[11:45] <ahmeni> wheatear: build-essential and such will get you the environment to compile the module, you should just have to follow the module's instructions now
[11:45] <Knifa> or rather it loads and goes
[11:45] <Knifa> "the process for the file protocol died unexpedctadly"
[11:45] <Knifa> perhaps livecd on a p3 500mhz with 64mb of rams is a bad idea.
[11:45] <zorglu_> !bash
[11:45] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:45] <satempler> for Kubuntu Edgy+1 do i need to go into #ubuntu+1
[11:46] <lupine_85> satempler: probably best
[11:46] <satempler> ok
[11:47] <satempler> is there a how to on bug reporting
[11:47] <satempler> i have a lot btw
[11:47] <lupine_85> !bugs
[11:48] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[11:48] <klerfayt> satempler: go here; register; and start reporting
[11:48] <lupine_85> it's pretty easy :)
[11:48] <satempler> ok
[11:48] <klerfayt> satempler: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu
[11:48] <MasterEvilAce> reporting is fun and awesome!
[11:48] <ccherrett> I am about to buy a nvidia 7900GT. Is there anything to look out for or does the card work well in linux. I think the nvidia driver supports it?
[11:49] <MasterEvilAce> remember: reporting duplicates is not so fun and awesome! :)
[11:49] <SonicChao> how do I stop windows from clumping together?
[11:50] <arcasa> Click and Drag.
[11:51] <SonicChao> No...I mean in the taskbar
[11:51] <SonicChao> When it goes "Firefox-bin [3] " etc
[11:51] <arcasa> Oh... That's kinda built in.
[11:51] <arcasa> Performance thing.
[11:51] <arcasa> Besides, Don't you use tabs?
[11:52] <SonicChao> It's not just that.
[11:52] <ahmeni> SonicChao: there's an option in the control panel to turn it off
[11:52] <arcasa> Well my advice... Use your extra desktops.
[11:52] <SonicChao> Where?
[11:53] <arcasa> Up near your clock.
[11:54] <ahmeni> SonicChao: kcontrol > Desktop > Taskbar > Group similar tasks
[11:54] <Knifa> will kubuntu run on a p3 500mhz with 64mb of ram? D:
[11:54] <arcasa> I do not no. But I wish you luck :)
[11:54] <Knifa> :|
[11:54] <Knifa> well
[11:54] <Knifa> the live cd is taking years to load in
[11:55] <Knifa> it's so slow the cursor lags when you move it
[11:55] <ahmeni> you'll probaby have to enable a swap space so it doesn't run out of memory
[11:55] <Knifa> yeah
[11:55] <ahmeni> otherwise I run it on a p3 600 with 128 semi-decently
[11:55] <arcasa> Heh... What kinda person owns a P3 with 64MB of ram these days anyway?
[11:55] <klerfayt> what is the cheat code for livecd to use 1280x800 resolution?
[11:55] <Knifa> it is a spare computer
[11:56] <ahmeni> arcasa: people who know that p3's are still worthy of being a decent linux desktop ;D
[11:56] <wheatear> well my kubuntu is running really nice on a p3 600 with 512 ram
[11:56] <Tokeiito> what kde FTP client is the best? i've tryed kbear and kftpgrabber but both are not stable
[11:57] <klerfayt> Tokeiito: kasablanca
[11:57] <arcasa> I like Pie.
[11:57] <MasterEvilAce> everybody likes pie
[11:58] <arcasa> :D
[11:58] <LeeJunFan> warm apple pie.
[11:58] <ahmeni> eep, not enough space on this laptop to upgrade to edgy
[11:58] <Knifa> i think the cd blew up.
[11:58] <Knifa> is there uh
[11:58] <KaiHanari> how do i add another port for sshd?
[11:58] <Knifa> anyway i can install it without going through the live cd thing
[11:58] <sorush20> why is my cpu load so high please? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/24138
[11:58] <arcasa> OK So I have about a Gig of Goth Porn.
[11:59] <Knifa> :|
[11:59] <arcasa> I want to view it all as a slideshow.
[11:59] <rawr> whats your problem knifa?
[11:59] <LeeJunFan> arcasa: gwenview
[11:59] <arcasa> Is there anyway to get Konqueror to show me all my pr0n?
[11:59] <arcasa> Ah thanks LeeJunFan.
[11:59] <Knifa> well you see i'm insane and trying to install kubuntu on a p3 500mhz with 64mb of ram
[11:59] <Knifa> but the live cd kills it
[11:59] <rawr> Ahh
[11:59] <Knifa> and it takes ages to get to the installer
[11:59] <rawr> try the alternet cd
[11:59] <rawr> kubuntu live crashed mine real slow
[12:00] <rawr> and i have 256 ramm XD
[12:00] <Knifa> :O
[12:00] <LeeJunFan> sorush20: run 'top' from a konsole/shell and see what it tells you.
[12:00] <rawr> under downloads install alternet cd
[12:00] <rawr> its text based
[12:00] <satempler> how do i restart kde-guidance-powermanager
[12:00] <Knifa> kk
[12:00] <MasterEvilAce> i have 256 ram, too
[12:00] <rawr> Yay i helped my first person.
[12:00] <MasterEvilAce> wish i had more
[12:00] <rawr> yea i need to buy more
[12:00] <rawr> 256 more is about 40 bucks though
[12:01] <Knifa> mabye i should try ubuntu actually
[12:01] <sorush20> root is using 55% of cpu
[12:01] <rawr> that works  to
[12:01] <sorush20> root xorg
[12:01] <rawr> and if you don't like gnome
[12:01] <rawr> just install the kde enviro ment
[12:01] <Knifa> i like gnome but i want to try something else
[12:01] <Knifa> oh finally the install window appearewd!
[12:01] <sorush20> the command is xorg
[12:02] <rawr> and knifa
[12:02] <Knifa> ahoy
[12:02] <rawr> if your running on a real small ramm cpu
[12:02] <rawr> try xubuntu
[12:02] <Knifa> kay
[12:02] <sorush20> is there a really minimalistic gui just like the terminal but with not graphics just text and colour..
[12:02] <rawr> takes less resources
[12:02] <Josh_> is there a way to import songs from cds like on itunes?
[12:03] <sorush20> yes Josh_
[12:03] <rawr> many
[12:03] <harleypig> I'm having a problem with openoffice after doing a dist-upgrade ... several unmet dependencies.  I can't go back or forward.
[12:03] <Josh_> sorush20 how?
[12:03] <rawr> acidripper is one i think.
[12:03] <sorush20> Josh_: kAudioCreator..
[12:04] <rawr> XD even says cd ripperr next to it...
[12:04] <sorush20> Josh_: up to you whether you want mp3 or free ogg, if you have an ipod you can install linux on to it and run ogg on your ipod..
[12:04] <Josh_> sorush20 it says i don't have an encoder? how do i get an encoder
[12:04] <sorush20> why is root using so much cpu
[12:04] <rawr> what takes up less space mp3 or ogg?
[12:05] <LeeJunFan> sorush20: not root - xorg, good question though - you have something goin on on your desktop like visual plugins for amarok or something?
[12:05] <Josh_> what do you guys do when kubuntu freezes up?
[12:05] <OOD> CTRL+Alt+Backspace
[12:05] <rawr> I unplug my cpu XD
[12:06] <OOD> taht should restart X
[12:06] <klerfayt> Josh_: never freezed
[12:06] <sorush20> LeeJunFan: I'm doing home work browsing and typing in OOo..
[12:06] <rawr> I think ctrll alt back locks it up even more
[12:06] <sorush20> Josh_: I'm not sure..
[12:06] <OOD> since it's mostly the GUI that freezes
[12:06] <rawr> mine like gos all colorfull
[12:06] <rawr> with white lines and stuffs
[12:06] <Sanne> Josh_: also do a memtest onyour RAM to make sure it's ok.
[12:06] <sorush20> Josh_: check in the adept..
[12:06] <LeeJunFan> sorush20: it could be some aggressive animations on a webpage you are viewing, but likely the browser would show up as using a lot of cpu too.
[12:07] <sorush20> true..
[12:07] <sorush20> LeeJunFan:
[12:07] <Josh_> sorush20 check in the adept for what?
[12:07] <Josh_> sorush20 do i just type in encode?
[12:07] <rawr> any one  know any good apps for making kde look prdyer?
[12:07] <MasterEvilAce> ?
[12:07] <sorush20> Josh_: yes.
[12:07] <Knifa> xgl!
[12:07] <OOD> yeah
[12:08] <OOD> rawr, just go to kde-look.org and download some good looking stuff :)
[12:08] <OOD> you can get icon themes, window themes, backgrounds etc
[12:08] <LeeJunFan> yeah, xgl isn't really for new users. You may end up b0rking your system good.
[12:08] <arcasa> How do I get rid of the gui login? (it sucks... terminal login is awesomeness.)
[12:08] <OOD> lol
[12:08] <sorush20> LeeJunFan: do you think I should kill it
[12:08] <LeeJunFan> until edgy is out anyway and one can use standard ubuntu packages for xgl.
[12:09] <LeeJunFan> sorush20: if you kill xorg you will loose your GUI.
[12:09] <echo1> So I just installed the fglrx drivers (newest ones, from the ati site, using the ati installer.)  glxinfo|grep direct tells me there is no direct rendering.  What is the problem?
[12:09] <ahmeni> arcasa: update-rc.d kdm remove
[12:09] <LeeJunFan> sorush20: ie. you will be logged out and have to log back in.
[12:09] <zorglu_> q. kate eat my cpu like crazy, like 80% when i dont even use it, any known bug ?
[12:09] <Josh_> sorush20 im having errors encoding wav files
[12:09] <LeeJunFan> sorush20: but you may need to do that to get it under control. That's certainly not a normal thing to happen.
[12:10] <LeeJunFan> zorglu_: no such problem here.
[12:10] <Tokeiito> damn. how to make in kasablanca automaticaly rewrite files?
[12:11] <satempler> how do I restart kde-guidance-powermanager
[12:11] <Tokeiito> this problem is in most of all KDE ftp clients