[11:02] <ggherdov> Hi all. My laptop is a Dell Latitude D630, http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=3750 (from far 2008), which AFAICT ships with a Intel T3700 CPU. Here http://ark.intel.com/products/29760 it says it is a 64bit CPU. Question: can I go for Ubuntu 64 bit ?
[11:02] <cgtdk> ggherdov: yes
[11:02] <hsteak> ActionParsnip: that's what i am currently using, but network manager seem to bring the iface down when connecting the wifi
[11:03] <ping03> Hello Everyone
[11:03] <ggherdov> cgtdk: thanks
[11:03] <ping03> I would like to know the opinion of price on this one
[11:03] <ping03> http://fineartamerica.com/featured/linux-family-tree-poster-linux-distributors.html
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> hsteak: http://www.wantlinux.net/2009/04/ubuntu-subinterfaces/
[11:04] <hsteak> thx
[11:04] <cgtdk> ping03: that's not really on topic in this channel
[11:04] <tom_o> where is wines c_drive?
[11:05] <hsteak> ActionParsnip: i don't have the right to edit /etc/network/interfaces unfortunalty :/
[11:05] <cgtdk> tom_o: Under ~/.cxoffice I think
[11:06] <tom_o> on file system?
[11:06] <tom_o> sorry im newbie
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> hsteak: no need, you can use ifconfig at CLI
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:06] <cgtdk> tom_o: ~ means your home folder. ~/.cxoffice is a folder called .cxoffice in your home folder
[11:07] <hsteak> ActionParsnip: yeah but each time the user try to use the wifi NM seem to bring eth0 down
[11:07] <tom_o> theres no cxoffice on my home folder
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:08] <tom_o> chould i type that on terminal ?
[11:08] <tom_o> *should
[11:08] <cgtdk> tom_o: Folders whose name starts with '.' are hidden. It's there, but you have to access it manually.
[11:09] <tom_o> how can i acces that folder
[11:09] <tom_o> my account says its administrator
[11:09] <cgtdk> tom_o: Which file manager are you using?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: yes in terminal, type the command and hit ENTER
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: what is the output please
[11:10] <tom_o> i dont know, how can i find out
[11:11] <cgtdk> tom_o: Open your file manager and check what it is called
[11:12] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: I did use nvidia to generate new xorg.conf. No go. I wiped xorg.conf. Still no go. The xorg logs indicate that the nvidia GFX is found, but fails on "failed to initialize the nvidia kernel module", yet no commet of the actual error in dmesg, and the nvidia driver is loaded but unused
[11:12] <tom_o> its only says home folder
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: are there any bugs reported?
[11:13] <tom_o> the icon is orange
[11:13] <cgtdk> tom_o: Isn't there an About menu?
[11:13] <tom_o> and ui like mac
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: what is the output of the command I gave please
[11:13] <cgtdk> tom_o: Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[11:14] <tom_o> how can i mention nickname, so we not confuse to who i talk for
[11:14] <tom_o> sorry for porr english
[11:14] <tom_o> *poor
[11:14] <cgtdk> tom_o: Just say the nickname in your message
[11:14] <DJones> !tab | tom_o
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: in a terminal, run:  cat /etc/issue    what is the output please? You can run a terminal by pressing CTRL + ALT + T
[11:15] <tom_o> Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS \n \l
[11:16] <tom_o> cgtdk theres panel on right side
[11:16] <tom_o> cgtdk, theres panel on right side
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: ok, run: echo $USER   what is output?
[11:17] <cgtdk> tom_o: In your file manager, try pressing CTRL+H. If you are running Nautilus, that should make it show hidden items.
[11:17] <ActionParsnip>  tom_o: sudo chown -R tom_o:tom_o  ~/.wine
[11:18] <tom_o> hey, it works
[11:18] <tom_o> hidden file revealed
[11:18] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: Well, I've spent hours trying to get this thing to work. To me it seems like if X is just given a little more time before its started, it will come around. And sometimes grub is shown in VESA (80x24), while others in full HD resolution. That seems to be related to if X is capable of starting on the first go or not
[11:18] <tom_o> actionpartnership: it only show my name
[11:18] <raven> xubuntu: "failed to load session "gnome" when opening tightvncsession - how to solve that?
[11:19] <tom_o> whats next?
[11:20] <tom_o> i find wine drice_c
[11:20] <tom_o> *drive
[11:20] <sveinse> Anyone here with nvidia optimus/bumblebee experience? Are you capable of getting multi-head X output with it?
[11:20] <tom_o> just remind, my problem is the game need run as administrator
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: you could add a small sleep in /etc/rc.local maybe
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: above the #exit 0' line     sleep 4
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: I gave the command you need
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> 12:17 < ActionParsnip>  tom_o: sudo chown -R tom_o:tom_o  ~/.wine
[11:23] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: Yeah. I was uncertain if rc.local were run in parallel with gdm because of upstart. Thanks, I'll give it a go
[11:23] <tom_o> nothings out
[11:23] <tom_o> what is chown use for?
[11:23] <gordonjcp> tom_o: changing the ownership of files
[11:24] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: It is run in parallel, so it didt work. But I'll figure something out
[11:25] <tom_o> fatal error: folder acces denied! please try to run garena plus as administrator once to solve this problem
[11:25] <tom_o> my game folder maybe ?
[11:26] <tom_o> i put the game folder on desktop
[11:26] <mumpitzel> tom_o: why would you do that?
[11:26] <mumpitzel> tom_o: and why can't you do what the helpful error message suggests?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: the drivers will continue to load but the DM will not load until the sleep has completed. For example, if you do not put an ampersand in front of long or indefinitely running lines in /etc/rc.local the DM wil never load
[11:27] <tom_o> i dont understand
[11:27] <tom_o> sorry for noob
[11:27] <tom_o> what should i do ?
[11:27] <tom_o> it one\ce installed but i cant remember where i install it
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: use the uninstaller and uninstall the game
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: do you have other apps installed using wine?
[11:29] <tom_o> no
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: great, easy days
[11:29] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: Didn't look like that. I added sleep 10 to rc.local, but X (lightdm) failed immediately on boot. However I had to wait 10 seconds before getting getty on tty...
[11:29] <tom_o> i uninstalled it
[11:29] <tom_o> whats next
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: uninstall the game in wine then run:  sudo rm -r ~/.wine    then reinstall the application but DONT use sudo or anything like that
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: ahhh I see
[11:30] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: I added sleep 10 prior to exec lightdm in /etc/init/lightdm.conf, and that seems to work
[11:30] <sveinse> It seems there is a race between the xorg nvidia driver and the kernel driver
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: Great!! will bear that in mind :)
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: very, I suggest you report a bug with your fix
[11:31] <tom_o> it still the same error message
[11:31] <tom_o> i cant root acces folder
[11:31] <tom_o> maybe im not superuser?
[11:31] <joshu> on a fresh 13.04 install in network manager there's a default "Wired connection 1". Why can't I find the config for this at /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: use sudo to uninsall the game too
[11:31] <joshu> that dir is empty
[11:31] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: I suspect that the machine is booted (by the bios) with the intel gfx, and it confuses nvidia driver when wanting to change over to the nvidia GFX chip
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: that optimus causes a tonne of headaches, I intend to avoid it like the plague
[11:32] <tom_o> im already uninstalled it
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: then delete the folders it made too
[11:32] <tom_o> where?
[11:34] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: Yep. The optimus technology is great for other OS than linux. It does _great_ improvements in battery operation times. Ironically nvidia has had extremely good and stable support in linux. Until now it seems.
[11:34] <tom_o> maybe u can remote my pc?
[11:34] <raven> xubuntu: "failed to load session "gnome" when opening tightvncsession - how to solve that?
[11:35] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: I owe you a thanks
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: np duder
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: i think optimus is a hack
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: what next, dual CPUs? one low power and the other nice and fast
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: its ludicrous, you may as well have 2 PCs sewn together
[11:36] <tom_o> ok
[11:36] <tom_o> i already delete the folder
[11:36] <sveinse> ActionParsnip: heh, don't be suprised. That is what is happening in the mobile arm industry. Having i7 + atom in a machine
[11:36] <tom_o> whats next? reinstall the game?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: never had an issue with nvidia but I dont use opimus, so its smoooooth sailin
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> sveinse: total cludge fix, why noth have the GPUs clock up and down on demand, like CPUs do. fewer issues
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: if all remnents of it are gone, yes but install as your user. Dont use sudo
[11:37] <cgtdk> or just abandon the idea of powerful graphics in laptops
[11:38] <tom_o> how to install without sudo? i just use the game installer, not terminal
[11:38] <sveinse> cgtdk: I would not like to abandon nvidia in my laptop. Without it I'd have to use intel graphics in X. *shrugs*
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: wine /path/to/installer.exe    or use playonlinux
[11:38] <cgtdk> sveinse: what's wrong with Intel graphics?
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> cgtdk: 3D games run smoother on nice Nvidia chips
[11:39] <wizrd> sveinse: just read about your question. Yes I have Bumblebee on 2 laptops running
[11:39] <cgtdk> ActionParsnip: As I said, the idea of powerful graphics in laptops should be abandoned
[11:40] <Ben64> tom_o: what game?
[11:40] <sveinse> cgtdk: For one, how to handle multiple monitors. I've never gotten that to work like it should.
[11:40] <sveinse> wizrd: Do you use multiple monitors on X?
[11:40] <wizrd> yep
[11:41] <cgtdk> sveinse: I see. I haven't tried that with Intel graphics.
[11:41] <tom_o> garena heroes of newerth
[11:41] <wizrd> well, one external monitor and the laptop display
[11:41] <alphix> clear
[11:41] <wizrd> since the last updates I have one minor issue
[11:41] <alphix> nice day
[11:42] <alphix> clear
[11:42] <sveinse> wizrd: How do you handle multiple monitors? xrandr?
[11:42] <tom_o> im really2 appreciate you all helpful tips
[11:42] <wizrd> sveinse: would you be surprised if I told you it worked out of the box
[11:42] <tom_o> frustated enough to start the game :D
[11:42] <wizrd> standard install of 12.04
[11:43] <tom_o> wine cant fine the installer
[11:43] <sveinse> I've never gotten that to work on my lenovo w530. I just does not detect the various output devices.
[11:43] <Ben64> tom_o: you know theres a linux client of heroes of newerth
[11:43] <sveinse> wizrd: 12.04 out of box with bumblebee? I didn't think that was a part of the standard repo.
[11:43] <tom_o> no
[11:43] <tom_o> its garena
[11:44] <tom_o> not us heroes of newerth
[11:45] <sveinse> Because I'd really like to use optimus if I could. Since I dualboot my laptop. Having optimus enabled in windows gives at least 2 hours more usage on batteries
[11:45] <Ben64> tom_o: not sure what that means, but you should try the appdb and #winehq for wine support
[11:47] <wizrd> sveinse: Bumblebee was installed afterwards. But multi monitor worked from the start
[11:47] <tom_o> how can i chack the wine is installed as root or no?
[11:47] <tom_o> *check
[11:48] <Ben64> wine just gets installed, its not installed as a certain user
[11:48] <dv-> tom_o: ls -al $(which wine)
[11:48] <Dmitry-I> ls -la wine
[11:50] <tom_o> how to change my account permission as root
[11:50] <tom_o> ?
[11:51] <sveinse> wizrd: I just tested. X cannot detect multiple displays if its running in integrated graphics (intel) or in optimus mode. Only discrete graphics (nvidia) works, and then with nvidia-settings
[11:51] <Ben64> !appdb | tom_o
[11:51] <sveinse> wizrd: What laptop is this?
[11:52] <wizrd> it's actually a barebone. Clevo
[11:52] <wizrd> got it build to order
[11:52] <tom_o> ok
[11:52] <tom_o> thank you verymuch all
[11:52] <wizrd> has a i7 ivy bridge with 32gb ram
[11:52] <wizrd> 256gb ssd and 1tb 2nd hd
[11:53] <sveinse> I think the main problem is optimus and lenovo-isms
[11:54] <wizrd> nvidia gtx675
[11:54] <sveinse> I though this laptop (Lenovo W530) was great for Ubuntu, as its on a approved for ubuntu list (IIRC)
[11:55] <wizrd> problem is that nvidia refused to create linux drivers for ivy bridge
[11:55] <wizrd> now there are drivers in beta
[11:55] <wizrd> and the bumblebee project
[11:56] <wizrd> I am not sure that it is a lenovo problem per sÃ©
[11:56] <reuf> anyone worked with h-sphere here?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> wizrd: you can use ivy bridge without an nvidia gpu you know
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> wizrd: so the intel driver in the default install will drive it if the is ontly the intel gpu
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> *only
[11:58] <wizrd> I know
[11:58] <wizrd> It was like that after the default install
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> wizrd: nvidia dont make driver for ivy bridge either, intel do
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> reuf  is that for a server? if yes, better ask in #ubuntu-server
[11:59] <wizrd> ActionParsnip: my bad. You're right
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> wizrd: np man :)
[11:59] <reuf> MonkeyDust, thanks
[11:59] <wizrd> I should not be on irc while at work ....
[12:01] <StephDC> My wi-fi card is malfunctioning, but I can't disable it, as the hardware switch is broken either. Is there anyway to disable that wi-fi card in Ubuntu? I have another wi-fi card plugged in now, and if I turn off Wireless, all of them would gone.
[12:01] <Ben64> StephDC: blacklist the driver for the bad card, or physically remove it from the computer
[12:02] <wizrd> StephDC: you might try to turn it off in BIOS
[12:02] <ufk_> hello
[12:02] <gordonjcp> StephDC: yes, rfkill
[12:02] <tom_o> i uninstall the wine and want start over
[12:02] <joshu> anyone know how to install the icons used for notifications http://cl.ly/image/1r3d0s2Y2j1E
[12:02] <ufk_> how do i upgrade my ubuntu from 12.04 to 13.04 ? do-release-upgrade doesn't let me know of updates
[12:02] <mumpitzel> tom_o: apt-get purge it and delete your ~/.wine
[12:02] <joshu> I've installed notify-osd which comes with notify-icons, but still some icons are not the same as on a standard ubuntu install
[12:02] <mumpitzel> ufk_: you will need to upgrade to 12.10 first
[12:02] <gordonjcp> ufk_: not worth it
[12:03] <tom_o> i uninstalled it using USC
[12:03] <ufk_> ok
[12:03] <gordonjcp> ufk_: it's easy to go to the next version, but not easy to skip versions
[12:03] <tom_o> its that ok ?
[12:03] <gordonjcp> ufk_: just nuke and pave with a clean install ;-)
[12:03] <ufk_> still.. do-release-upgrade doesn't let me know of new stuff
[12:03] <ufk_> the real reason is that i must have new version of tomcat! i need web socket support
[12:03] <mumpitzel> tom_o: dpkg -l |grep wine |grep ^rc
[12:03] <gordonjcp> ufk_: see if there's a backport?
[12:04] <StephDC> ufk_: Possibly because 12.04 is LTS version.
[12:04] <DJones> ufk_: You'll probably find that your system is set to only notify you of LTS upgrades, there is a setting in the repo's to only show LTS updates
[12:04] <tom_o> ?
[12:04] <ufk_> how do i disable the.. LTS thingy ?
[12:04] <StathisA> anyone virtualizing ubuntu in macosx?
[12:04] <gordonjcp> ufk_: because of the way packages work, it's fairly easy to rebuild a package for the "wrong" version and get a later package on an older release
[12:04] <Hexagonite> How do you view TIFF files in Chrome? The USPTO site uses TIFF images.
[12:05] <gordonjcp> ufk_: you don't.  And if this is a server you *want* LTS ;-)
[12:05] <DJones> ufk_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/202695/no-facility-exists-in-update-manager-to-upgrade-to-a-new-version-why
[12:05] <StephDC> ufk_: Something in Software Sources or Software & Updates
[12:05] <mumpitzel> !anyone > StathisA
[12:05] <ufk_> ok... so if i want new tomcat.. just to compile from sources ?
[12:05] <tom_o> already type it, what for?
[12:05] <mumpitzel> ufk_: backport if possible
[12:06] <tom_o> how to mention ?
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> ufk_: there may be a PPA
[12:06] <ufk_> what's a PPA ?
[12:06] <mumpitzel> !ppa > ufk
[12:06] <auronandace> ufk_: try backports before you try ppa
[12:06] <auronandace> !backports | ufk_
[12:06] <auronandace> !ppa | ufk_
[12:06] <tom_o> mumpitzel: already type it, what for?
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> Hexagonite  #chrome is as good as unpopulated, but #chromium-support  has 90+ people, better ask there
[12:07] <mumpitzel> tom_o: to see what it puts out
[12:07] <StathisA> anyone virtualizing ubuntu in macosx? what are you using for it? parallels? fusion? smth else?...any problems? my job needs a lot of VMs (linux, windows, others) and i'm thinking of buying a macbook
[12:07] <Hexagonite> MonkeyDust: They would answer 'Get Windows' though
[12:08] <brma1> hey guys.  Anyone know if it's possible to have ubuntuforums email me my hashed password so I can figure out what password I used there?  (due to the intrusion)
[12:08] <tom_o> what next?
[12:08] <ufk_> moving to different machine brb
[12:08] <jluc> you'd better hack ubuntuforums so as to recover your pwd brma1
[12:08] <gordonjcp> brma1: that wouldn't really help
[12:08] <brma1> StathisA: I am.  I use virtualbox and am very happy with it
[12:08] <OerHeks> brma1, ask in #ubuntuforums, i guess they won't send you the hasdhed password
[12:08] <keon> hi ,when I install cross complier,i tried to compile rtems-4.10.2,i type #make all,then it was wrong,here is something message:
[12:09] <StathisA> brma1: can i pm you?
[12:09] <keon> configure: error: Required header stdint.h not found
[12:09] <keon> configure: error: /bin/bash '/home/hefeng/LEON-RTEMS/rtems/rtems-4.10.2/c/src/../../cpukit/configure' failed for ../../cpukit
[12:09] <keon> make[2]: *** [leon3] 错误 1
[12:09] <keon> make[2]:正在离开目录 `/home/hefeng/LEON-RTEMS/rtems/b-rtems/sparc-rtems4.10/c'
[12:09] <keon> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] 错误 1
[12:09] <keon> make[1]:正在离开目录 `/home/hefeng/LEON-RTEMS/rtems/b-rtems/sparc-rtems4.10/c'
[12:09] <FloodBot1> keon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:09] <keon> make: *** [all-recursive] 错误 1
[12:09] <gordonjcp> brma1: I guess you know what *you* chose as a password so you can try hashing it yourself
[12:09] <Ben64> tom_o: next is go to the appdb and/or #winehq and see if they can help you get your game working
[12:09] <brma1> StathisA: sure thing
[12:09] <gordonjcp> !pastebin > keon
[12:09] <auronandace> !checkinstall | keon
[12:09] <brma1> gordonjcp: yes exactly, it wouldn't take long
[12:10] <gordonjcp> brma1: you'd also need to know the salt chosen
[12:10] <tirengarfio> what is the .dbus folder in my home folder?
[12:11] <tirengarfio> can I remove it?
[12:11] <auronandace> tirengarfio: no
[12:12] <tirengarfio> auronandace, why?
[12:12] <brma1> gordonjcp: good call
[12:12] <DNB> hey i got 2 hdd with ntfs file system. when i copy a file between them in windows the speed is more than 100 MB/s . In ubuntu and debian live cds is 10 MB/s . Anyone knows why ?
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> tirengarfio  it contains dbus-sessions
[12:13] <auronandace> tirengarfio: because dbus is required
[12:13] <Ben64> DNB: because its not a linux native filesystem, and implementation of it is still not perfect
[12:14] <DNB> so if i get dbus i will be fine ?
[12:14] <tbalthazar> Hi, I want to install Ubuntu on my Mac mini. I followed those instructions to create a bootable USB stick http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx. The USB stick is shown at boot when I use it on my MacBook Air, but not on my (old) Mac mini. Any idea?
[12:14] <arc__> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqHynTb0yXE&feature=youtu.be
[12:14] <Elisha> hfs ?
[12:15] <Elisha> oh, probably old mac mini doesn't support usb booting
[12:15] <tbalthazar> Elisha: I think it supports usb booting cause I can install OS X using a USB key …
[12:16] <OerHeks> arc__, why do you want us to watch a youtube thingy?
[12:16] <arc__> it is really bad how-to
[12:16] <DNB> tbalthazar press f12 when booting maybe ?
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> arc__  this is not the place to say that
[12:16] <gao_> hi guys
[12:16] <arc__> it is my video
[12:16] <arc__> so you know
[12:17] <jluc> using Acrobat Reader, i can only copy *once* some part of a PDF - i then have to close the reader and open it again so as to copy some other part of text in it. Is this known issue ? Is there a solution ?
[12:17] <gao_> who can tell me how to install kdialog in my ubuntu environment?
[12:17] <gao_> thanks
[12:17] <DJones> arc__: Please don't spam youtube links, if you have a support question, explain it in the channel first
[12:17] <gordonjcp> jluc: you'd need to take that up with Adobe
[12:17] <jluc> si i'm the only one
[12:17] <jluc> sO
[12:17] <gordonjcp> jluc: is there a reason why you can't use evince?
[12:18] <ufk> is there a ppa for newer tomcat ?
[12:18] <gordonjcp> ufk: what version are you looking for?
[12:18] <marianne> Hi, Anyone know the name of a group where I can ask specific hardware questions?
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> marianne  ##hardware
[12:18] <gordonjcp> marianne: ##hardware
[12:19] <marianne> MonkeyDust: Thank you
[12:19] <marianne> gordonjcp: thanks
[12:20] <jluc> i cant rememeber any reason why i couldnt use evince so i will switch to it
[12:20] <ufk> gordonjcp, 7.0.30+
[12:21] <tbalthazar> dnb : thanks, but didn't work
[12:21] <ufk> i need websockets support
[12:22] <ufk> i think it's supported from 7.0.29
[12:22] <jluc> thank you gordonjcp
[12:23] <ufk> i use ubuntu 12.04TLS and i need tomcat 7.0.29+
[12:23] <ufk> i checked and i didn't find backports
[12:23] <jluc> http://ubuntuforums.org/announce.html?t=1474010 says ubuntu one is not affected but i have received a mail warning for ubuntu one
[12:24] <Pici> jluc: Have you asked in #ubuntu-one ?
[12:26] <jluc> no but sorry for the noise - it's not very important to me since i dont use it. it didnt sync well when i tried it.
[12:26] <Pici> jluc: To my knowledge there was no impact on the Ubuntu One logins. Is it possible that someone else requested a password reset for your login name?
[12:27] <keon> hi all
[12:27] <derp> hey
[12:27] <cfhowlett> keon, greetings
[12:28] <cfhowlett> Pici, everything I've seen specified forums only.  of course, if you use the same login for UbuntuOne, well ...
[12:28] <henkpoley> I've updated a test machine with an Nvidia Ion to Ubuntu 13.10. When I switch to Nouveau (open source driver), how do I then turn on Mir/Xmir ?
[12:28] <keon> i meet some questions when i compile rtems,afer typing make all,problems come,like this:configure: error: Required header stdint.h not found
[12:28] <keon> configure: error: /bin/bash '/home/hefeng/LEON-RTEMS/rtems/rtems-4.10.2/c/src/../../cpukit/configure' failed for ../../cpukit
[12:28] <keon> make[2]: *** [leon3] 错误 1
[12:28] <keon> make[2]:正在离开目录 `/home/hefeng/LEON-RTEMS/rtems/b-rtems/sparc-rtems4.10/c'
[12:28] <keon> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] 错误 1
[12:28] <keon> make[1]:正在离开目录 `/home/hefeng/LEON-RTEMS/rtems/b-rtems/sparc-rtems4.10/c'make: *** [all-recursive] 错误 1
[12:29] <FloodBot1> keon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:29] <joshu> I can't get a mobile broadband connection to start automatically when I plugin the usb modem even though I have "automatically connect to this network when it is available"
[12:29] <cfhowlett> !cn|keon,
[12:29] <quetzakubica> Guys can I in bash script open new tab in terminal?
[12:29] <keon> can anyone give me some sugestions?thanks
[12:30] <cfhowlett> keon, compiling issues?  best asked in #linux
[12:30] <quetzakubica> I want my bash script to open two terminals, activate virtualenvs on it and go to specific directory. Can I do that?
[12:30] <keon> thanks ,i have compiled it for a long time
[12:30] <auronandace> quetzakubica: #bash could help better
[12:30] <quetzakubica> auronandace: ok
[12:31] <bhavesh> I am writing to my Ubuntu 12.04's EXT3 home partition from windows 8 with Ext2Fsd, will it write in the same way linux does or will it write in windows way and fragment my EXT3 partition?
[12:32] <roboto_> Why do my network files have server icons, when access I get: Failed to retrieve share list from server: Connection refused. This happens seemingly arbitrarily. Fresh install of 13.04, doesn't happen on my laptop with 12.04 same config.
[12:32] <roboto_> using samba
[12:33] <ufk> how can i configure that when i reboot tomcat won't start in init scripts ?
[12:34] <MonkeyDust> ufk  alf-f2 > startup applications
[12:35] <aenemic> just a quick question from a beginner here, trying to install ubuntu 13.04 on my retina macbook, but it been stuck on "Detecting file systems..." for 10-15 minutes now. I have done the refind/refit install, and running install from the "try ubuntu" option without GRUB
[12:35] <zasek> WoT on Ubuntu?
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> zasek  use full sentences please
[12:38] <ufk> MonkeyDust, alf-f2?!
[12:38] <bbotf> Hi all
[12:38] <MonkeyDust> ufk  alt-f2 is used to run programs
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> launch*
[12:39] <ufk> connecting using ssh here
[12:39] <ufk> no gui
[12:39] <bbotf> Anyone here using steam with ubuntu? how is the performance if you do im considering migrating to ubuntu again now that i can play my games on linux
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> ufk  I missed that part
[12:39] <ufk> :)
[12:40] <kvothetech> bbotf: you've been able to play games on linux forever ...that said like most games on most any other platform depends on the game and your hardware
[12:40] <auronandace> !steam | bbotf
[12:40] <curatrix> bbotf: It has a few issues, but I find it to be pretty stable (on a program by program basis)
[12:41] <bbotf> kvothetech games yes, the games i want to with good performance not allways
[12:41] <bbotf> aurinandace: thanks ill switch chans
[12:43] <gao_> i fix it :D
[12:43] <gao_> just install kdebase-bin :D
[12:46] <Guest92227> close
[12:50] <kc4lzn> I installed 12.04 alongside of a previously installed 10.04. Didn't think it would affect the 10.04 and  now states when I boot on that OS, that the /sbin/init file is not present and leaves me at the prompt of (initramfs). Any ideas?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> bbotf: perfomance is dependant on system spec, so a low end box will perform badly compared to a high end box
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> bbotf: so the question is null
[12:51] <mumpitzel> kc4lzn: did you install them in different partitions?
[12:52] <kc4lzn> mumpitzel: yes
[12:52] <mumpitzel> kc4lzn: check the "kernel" lines in your grub.cfg then
[12:56] <kc4lzn> mumpitzel: Because I cannot get past this initramfs, Is it commandable from here Or is there some other option to access the grub.cfg file?
[12:57] <kc4lzn> mumpitzel: or is that looked at when I am at the option to select OS?
[13:00] <hudini> hi guys
[13:00] <hudini> i need some help..
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> hudini  let's hear it
[13:00] <cgtdk> !ask | hudini
[13:00] <cgtdk> :(
[13:00] <cgtdk> :)
[13:01] <harvi> hudini: no problem just write your problem here and someone will help you :)
[13:03] <tom_o> how to install wine without root access?
[13:04] <auronandace> tom_o: installation of anything will require sudo
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> he's gone
[13:05] <chunkyhead> is there a way to channel skype volume to headphone
[13:05] <chunkyhead> and music on laptop speaker
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:06] <mumpitzel> kc4lzn: can you boot either ubuntu installation?
[13:07] <kc4lzn> Yes, I can boot the 12.04
[13:07] <kc4lzn> mumpitzel: Yes, I can boot the 12.04
[13:08] <tom_o> how to install wine without root access?
[13:08] <auronandace> tom_o: installation of anything will require sudo
[13:09] <kc4lzn> mumpitzel: I tried to access the partition in nautilus but stated that it had an error mounting. Bad superblock
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> auronandace: he had an issue earlier where he installed a game in wine using sudo access
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> auronandace: so the files in the install were root owned
[13:09] <keon> do anyone know how to install cross compile?
[13:09] <mumpitzel> kc4lzn: file -s <device file of partition> then
[13:09] <mumpitzel> kc4lzn: you might have killed that partition for good
[13:10] <StephDC> tom_o: How about compile from source code to a local folder, then add the folder to $PATH ?
[13:10] <kc4lzn> mumpitzel: That's not good. I've done simple installs in partitions before and hope you're incorrect. New hard drive so I hope not.Isn't there a repair procedure for bad blocks?
[13:11] <mumpitzel> kc4lzn: that is not a bad block when it can't find the superblock. there is more than one superblock
[13:11] <chunkyhead> is there a way to channel skype volume to headphone and music from laptop speakers
[13:12] <Pici> gary /70
[13:12] <Pici> oops
[13:13] <kc4lzn> mumpitzel: Ok. So, is there any test to run to confirm this?
[13:14] <mumpitzel> kc4lzn: there is smartmon-tools, there is badblocks, etc. very unlikely either of them will help you
[13:14] <mumpitzel> kc4lzn: again, what does file(1) say?
[13:16] <kc4lzn> mumpitzel: Because I cannot mount the partition, I cannot read any files from that partition
[13:17] <mumpitzel> kc4lzn: that doesn't mean it's hardware failed. last chance: what does file(1) say?
[13:19] <kc4lzn> mumpitzel: My apologies, I saw where you requested "file -s <device file of partition> then" and I did not receive the rest of your request.
[13:19] <sibiraj> hi
[13:19] <sibiraj> Any one there to help me here.
[13:20] <Pici> !ask  | sibiraj
[13:21] <sibiraj> I am using one usb modem to connect to internet.
[13:22] <sibiraj> but not connected yet
[13:23] <sibiraj> Hi any one there
[13:23] <sibiraj> ?
[13:23] <nemchik> hi
[13:24] <hudini> someone answered my question ,but thank you guys
[13:24] <keon> we like share !
[13:24] <elimik> Is it secure to use the preinstalled keymanager for storing my passwords? I created a password folder with a pretty secure password, but somehow I don't have to give the password to open it and look at my password. It seems Ubuntu unlocks it automatically when I give my password during login.
[13:25] <hudini> ubottu thank you man ,i got my answer ,but thanks again.. : )
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> hudini  ubottu is a she
[13:26] <elimik> What I mean: They login key ring has the key for my password folder and I can't remove it from there. Well I can, but if I do it appears again after every login.
[13:27] <keon> what is bot？
[13:27] <hudini> oh sorry i didnt know that
[13:27] <nemchik> my netbook (ubuntu 13.04) causes the rest of my network to slow to a crawl when it's connected to the network (via wifi, havent tried over ethernet) but my router shows (on the web interface's live traffic view) that theres really no traffic, so im assuming it's just making connections and clogging things, but not really transferring much (still causing the network to slow other devices connections to unusable) - also when i run netho
[13:27] <nemchik> gs nothing really shows unless i run transmission, which leaves the list when closed - also when i run netstat i have TONS of things from @/tmp/dbus
[13:28] <keon> bot
[13:28] <nemchik> huh?
[13:28] <MonkeyDust> !bot > keon
[13:28] <keon> bot is someone manage?
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> keon  a bot is a program, a robot, so to say
[13:31] <keon> thanks
[13:31] <hudini> oh guys ,i tryed to install kali linux and i had problems ,because the bootloader wouldnt install itself on the system .. i tryed graphical install ,could that be that the bootloader had a conflict with booloader of windows ..
[13:32] <hudini> can i install the bootloader manually?
[13:32] <auronandace> hudini: kali isn't supported here
[13:32] <Maple__> hudini, ask #kali-linux
[13:32] <hudini> hmm okay
[13:33] <hudini> but the backtrack version of it is based on ubuntu ,right?
[13:33] <auronandace> hudini: just like ubuntu is based off debain but #debian doesn't support ubuntu
[13:33] <QTPieMan> is this package preinstalled in ubuntu 13.04, "linux-image-generic <IP_ADDRESS>" ?
[13:34] <auronandace> QTPieMan: preinstalled no, thats the latest kernel from the repo
[13:34] <QTPieMan> auronandace, its showing that is was autumatically installed
[13:35] <auronandace> QTPieMan: that should be 3.8 not 38
[13:35] <QTPieMan> auronandace, yup that will be 3.8
[13:35] <auronandace> QTPieMan: the kernel is a fundamental part of ubuntu
[13:36] <auronandace> QTPieMan: i thought you were asking if that particular version was on the install media
[13:36] <auronandace> QTPieMan: the install media ships with an older version
[13:36] <QTPieMan> auronandace, install media?
[13:37] <auronandace> QTPieMan: the cd you installed ubuntu with
[13:37] <QTPieMan> auronandace, oh, it came whwn i updated my system?
[13:37] <auronandace> QTPieMan: indeed
[13:38] <QTPieMan> auronandace, well it was previously removed by me, and i installed it again via synaptic package manager, can that harm my system?
[13:39] <tom_o> ActionParsnip, : hellow
[13:39] <elimik> Is it secure to use the preinstalled keymanager for storing my passwords? I created a password folder with a pretty secure password. However, the login key ring has the key for my password folder and I can't remove it from there. Well I can, but if I do it appears again after every login.
[13:40] <auronandace> QTPieMan: i can't see why it would
[13:41] <QTPieMan> auronandace, oh as its kernel and i removed it thats why
[13:42] <auronandace> QTPieMan: you can have multiple kernels installed
[13:43] <breadkrum> is using the fglrx ati drivers safe they seem to make steam games better but are kinda buggy. like when i quit mame the screen resolution changes but with the regular ones it doesnt
[13:44] <QTPieMan> auronandace, oh ok, thanks. and also is this package preinstalled or done manually? "libunique-1.0-0" ?
[13:44] <KC4LZN> mumpitzel: I was on the computer in question so I could not continue the chat and look at the grub config at the same time. Since I don't have a log of our conversation, can I ask your question again? What file line item was in question?
[13:45] <KC4LZN> mumpitzel: I'm looking at the grub config file now.
[13:45] <Mestre-Splinter> Hey guys, I need some help. I tried to search in the foruns but it is offline.
[13:45] <auronandace> !find libunique
[13:46] <Equinox3> Mestre-Splinter: on what?
[13:46] <mumpitzel> KC4LZN: nothing of grub.cfg if you can't mount the root partition from another ubuntu
[13:46] <hudini> auronandace
[13:46] <mumpitzel> KC4LZN: your filesystem is broken beyond repair most likely.
[13:46] <auronandace> !info libunique-1.0-0
[13:46] <hudini> auronandace yeah so true ..
[13:46] <Mestre-Splinter> Im running xubuntu 13.04, and my wireless keep disconnecting.
[13:46] <hudini> auronandace its ok then ..
[13:46] <QTPieMan> auronandace, in terminal?
[13:46] <auronandace> QTPieMan: installed by default
[13:46] <mumpitzel> Mestre-Splinter: check syslog and your dmesg output.
[13:46] <QTPieMan> auronandace, oh ok thanks
[13:47] <mumpitzel> Mestre-Splinter: also name the chipset and driver for your wlan device
[13:47] <Mestre-Splinter> If im downloading something have 90% of chance of disconnect
[13:47] <KC4LZN> mumpitzel: Thanks for your input.
[13:47] <QTPieMan> anybody tried Xojo? is it any better than Eclipse?
[13:47] <Equinox3> Mestre-Splinter:  are you connecting to a router or AP somewhere out side
[13:48] <mumpitzel> KC4LZN: fourth time now: check with file(1)
[13:48] <Mestre-Splinter> To a router
[13:48] <Equinox3> Mestre-Splinter: and what is your wireless driver?
[13:48] <Mestre-Splinter> RLT8187
[13:49] <Equinox3> have you tried iwconfig by setting the tx-power to the max
[13:50] <Equinox3> what does your iwconfig wlan0 show?
[13:50] <Mestre-Splinter> Equinox3, I didnt.
[13:50] <szabo> could someone answer to some questions about some troubles im having with ubuntu on pvt, ive got several and i dont want to flood the channel with noob questions...
[13:50] <Mestre-Splinter> Jsut a sec
[13:50] <Equinox3> also try turning power management off, it works sometimes
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> szabo  what's pvt?
[13:51] <szabo> private
[13:51] <mumpitzel> Mestre-Splinter: put the output of sudo iwlist scanning|grep -A 4 Frequency   into a pastebin
[13:51] <neo_> need some help, Flash Audio is all staticy any suggestions?
[13:51] <keon> can i ask some quetions about rtems here?
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> szabo  simply ask your questions in the channel, one at a time and in one line
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> neo_:is other audio ok?
[13:54] <QTPieMan> neo_, in playing audio only or video as well?
[13:54] <neo_> ActionParsnip, As far as i know
[13:54] <neo_> QTPieMan,  Audio and Video but the Video plays fine ,
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> neo_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[13:54] <szabo> ok, first of all every app im downloading and using disappears when i log in again. i dont understand why.
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> neo_: use a pastebin to host the output
[13:55] <neo_> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/iNVSVmk8
[13:58] <neo_> ActionParsnip, its weird because when I use xubuntu audio is fine but when i use anything else it turns out the same way,
[13:59] <QTPieMan> neo_, how u installed flash?
[13:59] <neo_> ActionParsnip, Maybe it has something to do with Xubuntu using HDA instead of ALSA
[13:59] <neo_> QTPieMan, from the repositories
[14:00] <neo_> QTPieMan,  ''sudo apt-get install flashplugin-intaller'' is the command i used
[14:00] <BluesKaj> neo_, alsa uses the intel hda driver , they aren't mutually exclusive
[14:01] <neo_> BluesKaj, I know but I find it odd tbqh
[14:02] <QTPieMan> neo_, you may try gnash
[14:02] <tom_o> how can i change ownership to default?
[14:02] <auronandace> !permissions | tom_o
[14:02] <neo_> QTPieMan, Gnash just makes it worse, Guess its back to using jdownloader + VLC
[14:03] <BluesKaj> neo_, I use 2 audio drivers , one on Card 0 ,and the other as Card 1 one is an m-audio and the other is the intel hda
[14:03] <QTPieMan> neo_, who use jdownloader?
[14:04] <KC4LZN> mumpitzel: I'm not following, check with file (1)... what file?
[14:04] <neo_> QTPieMan, i need to use Jdownloader to get full download speed, My ISP throttles my connetion
[14:04] <Mestre-Splinter> Ok guys, sorry , im back. can i paste the output here or in pmsg?
[14:04] <neo_> Mestre-Splinter, pastebin.com
[14:04] <QTPieMan> neo_, i was trying to tell removing flash and installing lightspark or gnash
[14:04] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | Mestre-Splinter
[14:04] <Mestre-Splinter> neo_ ty!
[14:05] <QTPieMan> neo_, i use aria2 its good also try downthemall in firefox
[14:05] <neo_> QTPieMan, Ive tried Gnash and the audio remains the same
[14:05] <Mestre-Splinter> !pastebinit wlan0     IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:"RunDaTrap"
[14:05] <Mestre-Splinter>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.412 GHz  Access Point: 70:54:D2:B4:36:1A
[14:05] <Mestre-Splinter>           Bit Rate=54 Mb/s   Tx-Power=20 dBm
[14:05] <Mestre-Splinter>           Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[14:05] <Mestre-Splinter>           Power Management:off
[14:05] <FloodBot1> Mestre-Splinter: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:05] <Mestre-Splinter>           Link Quality=54/70  Signal level=-56 dBm
[14:07] <Mestre-Splinter> ifconfig wlan0 http://paste.ubuntu.com/5911253/
[14:08] <Mestre-Splinter> iwlist scanning|grep -A 4 frequency : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5911254/
[14:09] <keon>  hi all,when i type make all,some problems occur:make[1]: *** [all-recursive]
[14:09] <szabo> ive downloaded amarok and vlc three times now and never memorizes it in the next session
[14:09] <keon> can anybody gives me some sugestion?
[14:09] <tom_o> hello
[14:09] <tom_o> how can i change ownership to default?
[14:09] <thehumanelement> Hey guys, you know how you can put AlbumArt.jpg files (which is a bit crap - I prefer embedding the art in the MP3/FLAC files) : What is the equivalent for folder DVD rips (or even .mkv files) to show like a movie poster or DVD cover instead of either just a folder icon or a thumbnail of some random scene?
[14:10] <Mestre-Splinter> So the problem persists, and when the wifi stop working i have to disable and enable the wireless and it is back
[14:10] <thehumanelement> hello tom_o, I have often wondered this, can you be more specific? I looked into this the other day (I think I saw the Mac's "Fix Permissions" feature in some forum). I reckon in Linux there is no easy way to do this and it depends on where in the filesystem  you want to set the permissions
[14:11] <thehumanelement> I mean, ownership (/ permissions)
[14:11] <tom_o> no, ijut want to play a game with wine and it says access folder denied and need run as administrator
[14:12] <thehumanelement> oh right
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> tom_o  we've learned that you only have root access. why not reinstall the game
[14:12] <thehumanelement> Is it some kind of Windows program that makes the dialogue box that says that?
[14:12] <thehumanelement> Is it an old game?
[14:13] <tom_o> i reinstall the game but the same result
[14:13] <thehumanelement> normally when you install things in regular Wine you have ultimate ownership over everything
[14:13] <thehumanelement> Is it some kind of Windows program that makes the dialogue box that says that?
[14:13] <tom_o> heroes of newerth garena
[14:13] <thehumanelement> do you have anything else installed in Wine?
[14:13] <tom_o> no
[14:13] <tom_o> i just use wine for hon
[14:14] <Mestre-Splinter> mumpitzel, iwlist scanning|grep -A 4 frequency : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5911254/
[14:16] <keon> clear
[14:16] <mumpitzel> Mestre-Splinter: and your AP is which one of them?
[14:16] <tom_o> hellow
[14:17] <Mestre-Splinter> mumpitzel, the first one. "RunDaTrap"
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> tom_o  i thing heroes to newert has been ported to linux, no wine needed http://longturn.org/intro/  <-- "Do I need to download anything to play?"
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> think*
[14:18] <mumpitzel> Mestre-Splinter: not much you can do: you already are on the least crowedd part of the spectrum
[14:18] <tom_o> not us heroes of newerth
[14:18] <tom_o> its garena version
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> tom_o  wrong link, my mistake, sorry
[14:18] <Mestre-Splinter> mumpitzel, what you mean?
[14:21] <tom_o> it doesnt matter which HON i play
[14:21] <blackheart> i want to remove youtube app from ubuntu 13.04
[14:21] <blackheart> any help ?
[14:22] <tom_o> i just wondering this error
[14:22] <tom_o> folder acces denied, try to run as administrator
[14:23] <QTPieMan> anybody tried qupzilla? is it safe?
[14:23] <KC4LZN> mumpitzel: You've stated, first, second, third and now fourth, check file(1)... what file?
[14:23] <mumpitzel> file(1) is a command. the (1) tells you in which part of the manpages the documentation for it is
[14:24] <blackheart> i have installed youtube app in ubuntu 13.04 please tell me  how to remove it
[14:24] <pankaj_sharma> ubuntu is hacked?
[14:24] <mumpitzel> pankaj_sharma: no. a ubuntu forum was
[14:24] <thehumanelement> hi, sorry I was AFK tom_o
[14:25] <mumpitzel> blackheart: what youtube app did you install? from where?
[14:25] <pankaj_sharma> holy mother of god
[14:25] <thehumanelement> you can try renaming /home/tom_o/.wine to a different name and try installing again
[14:25] <thehumanelement> have you ever fiddled with the default permissions or ownership for your Ubuntu?
[14:25] <thehumanelement> But again I ask, that dialogue box, was it from the game?
[14:25] <thehumanelement> or from Wine (or even from Ubuntu)?
[14:26] <blackheart> mumptzel: well when i opened youtube day it firefox suggested to install it  now  i wanna remove it !
[14:28] <defishguy> tattoli:  Good morning!
[14:29] <Pici> blackheart: Are you talking about a firefox extension? or flash? or what? please provide as much information  as possible for us to help you better.
[14:29] <proceed> Hey, guys; I have a question: Can I delete the old images found in my /boot folder?
[14:30] <QTPieMan> anybody tried qupzilla? is it safe?
[14:31] <auronandace> proceed: remove them by the package manager
[14:32] <Pici> QTPieMan: What is that? I don't see anything by that name in the repositories?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> proceed: uninstall old unused kernels
[14:33] <braulio> Hello guys, I use Xubuntu 13.04 and I'm trying to configure on my international keyboard the ABNT keyboard. I read a tutorial that said that I should edit the file "~/.bashrc" and add to the last line "setxkbmap -model pc104 -layout us_intl". Which worked great. The only thing that I notice is that everytime I reboot the system it goes back to the ABNT for a Portuguese keyboard (not international), and I have to open the terminal and close it in order to
[14:33] <braulio> make it work again (I don't even have to do anything, just open and close). Is there any way to "fix" this?
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> qupzilla is a browser, is what I read here
[14:33] <QTPieMan> Pici, thats is a browser comes with chakra linux, also available for others
[14:33] <Pici> QTPieMan: Talk to the chakra linux people then? I'm not sure how we're supposed to know that.
[14:34] <thehumanelement> Hey guys, you know how you can put AlbumArt.jpg files (which is a bit crap - I prefer embedding the art in the MP3/FLAC files) : What is the equivalent for folder DVD rips (or even .mkv files) to show like a movie poster or DVD cover instead of either just a folder icon or a thumbnail of some random scene?
[14:34] <QTPieMan> Pici, i just asked here, that is also available in ubuntu check http://www.qupzilla.com/download
[14:35] <auronandace> QTPieMan: installing anything from outside the repos always has some risk and doesn't get supported here
[14:35] <rypervenche> QTPieMan: It is a very good browser in my opinion, but it is still very new and lacking in some areas.
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> thehumanelement  show it where?
[14:35] <QTPieMan> auronandace, its in repos
[14:36] <proceed> Alright. Thank you both ActionParsnip and autonandace.
[14:36] <Pici> QTPieMan: PPAs are not official repositories.
[14:36] <auronandace> !info qupzilla
[14:36] <auronandace> QTPieMan: no it isn't
[14:36] <QTPieMan> Pici, hmm ok
[14:36] <QTPieMan> auronandace, ok
[14:36] <thehumanelement> show it when you look at the folder in nautilus I guess
[14:37] <thehumanelement> or if you were using a media app like Banshee, although I don't think it actually knows where my videos are
[14:37] <QTPieMan> why mir is better than x.org ?
[14:37] <auronandace> !mir | QTPieMan
[14:37] <thehumanelement> because no-one uses X for remoting so it's kind of pointless?
[14:38] <QTPieMan> ubottu, ok
[14:38] <QTPieMan> auronandace, what is that"?
[14:38] <QTPieMan> ubottu, ?? huh O.o
[14:38] <auronandace> QTPieMan: read what ubottu said
[14:38] <Pici> !bot
[14:39] <QTPieMan> auronandace, yup ok
[14:39] <uhelp> What channel do I join to ask about how to upload a file with wput?
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> uhelp  wput is in the repos, so try here... i guess it's related to wget?
[14:40] <clue_h> !foo
[14:41] <uhelp> OK, what command line options do I need to upload a file using wput with 12.04.x LTS?
[14:41] <uhelp> I don't want the command to "SKIPPING FILE" I wan the command to upload it.
[14:41] <QTPieMan> !ubuntu
[14:41] <clue_h> !search mir
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> clue_h  use /msg ubottu to test !factoids, please
[14:42] <clue_h> I'm doing that at the same time, but ok i will hush.
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> uhelp  in a terminal, type    man wput      and learn from there
[14:43] <thisguyagain> guys, my lightdm is restarting again and again (can't login_)
[14:44] <thisguyagain> however if I login into a guest account, it doesn't happen
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> thisguyagain  can you login in a different DE ?
[14:44] <thisguyagain> I tried differnt DE on the same account, same thing happens.
[14:44] <tom_o> hellow
[14:44] <tom_o> how to change account permission to root ?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> tom_o: use chown
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> thisguyagain  also: press ctrl-alt F1, login and use df -h to know if any partition is 100% full    (that happened to me)
[14:45] <tom_o> actionparsnip
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> uhelp  keep it in the channel please
[14:46] <thisguyagain> MonkeyDust: I _am_ in tty1. this is irssi... and no, my disk is only 29% filled
[14:46] <raven> xubuntu: "failed to load session "gnome" when opening tightvncsession - how to solve that?
[14:46] <pxpx> hola
[14:46] <tom_o> ActionParsnip, how to change back my wine ownership
[14:46] <uhelp> MonkeyDust I looked at the man page before I came here and it was useless (to me).
[14:47] <QTPieMan> anybody tried xojo?
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> uhelp  then state what you want to achieve -- tip: i'm not familiar with it myself, but maybe someone else in the channel is
[14:48] <mumpitzel> uhelp: where do you want to upload something? to what server, what kind of server?
[14:48] <uhelp> I wish for wput to upload the files I specify instead of skipping them for a mystery reason it doesn't specify
[14:48] <thisguyagain> also, If I ps -aux, I find a new user "124" owning almost all processes
[14:49] <uhelp> umpitzel: it is an ftp server
[14:49] <uhelp> umpitzel: if I delete the file from the FTP server it ALWAYS uploads
[14:50] <mumpitzel> uhelp: so you can upload but not when the file already exists?
[14:52] <uhelp> mumpitzel: i can upload when a file already exists but not every time
[14:52] <uhelp> mumpitzel: wput SOMETIMES instead says it is skipping the file and when I use --verbose it says it is skipping it due to "rules" without saying which ones
[14:53] <mumpitzel> uhelp: you using the -u option?
[14:53] <uhelp> mumpitzel: I want it to simply take the file I specify and upload it to the place I say ... I don't want any "help" from wput which is so smart it knows I didn't actually want to upload the file I told it to.
[14:54] <uhelp> mumpitzel: I have tried with and without ... which should I be using?
[14:54] <mumpitzel> with. it will upload stuff even when it already exists on the server
[14:58] <andreb> morning all
[14:58] <proceed> What could possibly be the consequence of removing old kernel images? Will I survive?
[14:59] <andreb> is it possible to have fail2ban send emails to multiple address when it bans an ip instead of just one ?
[14:59] <auronandace> proceed: the consequence would be the freeing up of some space
[14:59] <mumpitzel> proceed: as long as you don't need the old kernels anymore it's fine. if your new kernel doesn't work for some reason it can be bad
[15:00] <usr13> Login credentials for http://ubuntuforums.org & https://launchpad.net/ are the same.  True__________?  False________?
[15:00] <Pici> usr13: false
[15:01] <uhelp> mumpitzel: UGH.  I think the problem is not wput but godaddy.  wput IS sending the file when I need it to but sometimes the old file remains in the directory on godaddy -- the "SKIPPING FILES" files could be skipped but files which needed to be uploaded aren't appearing on godaddy
[15:01] <usr13> That's what I thought. (Was asked that question, my answer was disputed, but, as I think back, that may have been because the individual just had same ID and Pass for both).
[15:02] <joshu> is it a bug in 13.04 that autoconnect=true doesn't work for network manager/system-connections?
[15:02] <uhelp> mumpitzel: thank you so much ... I will call godaddy support -- the bastards
[15:02] <wcchandler> papa shuttleworth is going to do an AMA on reddit in a little while
[15:03] <usr13> I don't do that, I know the problems it can lead to and so I have a LOT of LoginIDs and Passwords to keep up with, but I'm afraid most dont do that, or many dont ... I just don't know.
[15:04] <d3struc70r> Hi
[15:04] <arc__> what cool thing can i do ubuntu 12/04
[15:05] <d3struc70r> u can develop a pretty exploit
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> !ot
[15:05] <arc__> lol
[15:06] <trnv> amazon search really likes showing music in shopping lens
[15:07] <trnv> not very useful :( should show more kindle
[15:07] <varunendra> joshu, in my 12.04, it is either autoconnect=false, or no line at all.
[15:07] <hotdogggg> where is the lightdm lock file?
[15:07] <hotdogggg> is there one?
[15:07] <joshu> varunendra so no line means it will autoconnect?
[15:07] <usr13> hotdogggg: I don't think there is.
[15:07] <varunendra> joshu, yes
[15:08] <joshu> varunendra going to test that now
[15:08] <andreb> can anyone help me ?
[15:09] <varunendra> joshu, I think it is the same way for "Allow everyone". A user ID means only that user, no line=everyone.
[15:09] <joshu> varunendra interesting didn't know that. I just rebooted and it won't connect automatically to mobile broadband only to ethernet
[15:09] <joshu> very odd
[15:09] <hotdogggg> usr13: I am repeatedly redirected back to login screen. Happens only in my account.. Guest account works fine. not a DE issue..
[15:10] <usr13> andreb: Im sure that *someone* can.  (But only if you ask a question.)
[15:10] <hotdogggg> usr13: If it works fine for other accounts, there is a lock for my account.. rgith?
[15:10] <usr13> hotdogggg: How do you know it's not a DE issue?
[15:10] <mumpitzel> usr13: he already did. a pretty useless one but a question it was
[15:10] <trnv> tried checking the system log under auth?
[15:11] <hotdogggg> usr13: Even if I use other DEs, I get the same problem. and all DEs work fine with other account
[15:11] <usr13> mumpitzel: Ok, well sorry for the needless comment.
[15:11] <andreb> usr13 : I am trying to configure fail2ban to send out email notifications to 2 email address instead of one.. but i dont see any where in the manual if that is possible
[15:11] <hotdogggg> usr13: Guest acc, that is.
[15:11] <usr13> hotdogggg: df
[15:11] <varunendra> joshu, for mobile broadband, you need to initiate the connection manually. Autoconnect only means that connection will be retried automatically if an initial attempt fails (3 times, then a break of a few minutes, then again).
[15:11] <hotdogggg> usr13: Not full
[15:11] <mumpitzel> usr13: not as if mine were needed :P or this one either. gotta stop polluting ;)
[15:11] <hotdogggg> usr13: like less than half filled
[15:12] <usr13> hotdogggg: Ctrl-Alt-F6  Look around for issue(s)  Not really sure.....
[15:12] <joshu> varunendra oh really the wording make me think it would connect automatically. So to have the connection done automatically I would have to right a script?
[15:12] <joshu> *made
[15:12] <trnv> look under /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[15:12] <trnv>  for error?
[15:13] <varunendra> joshu, for mobile broadband, yes.
[15:14] <joshu> varunendra very helpful thanks! if I want to do this at the lightdm greeter login screen would I use this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Autorun_a_Command
[15:14] <tom_o> what is default permission of application?
[15:15] <varunendra> joshu, that part I've no experience. I'm myself using mobile broadband, and never tried to automate that..
[15:16] <joshu> varunendra ok maybe someone else knows if LightDM's auto run is the place to put a mobile broadband auto connection script?
[15:17] <raub> Which ubuntu release can I get with kernel version  around  2.6.32?
[15:18] <usr13> hotdogggg Ctrl-Alt-F6 Login as same user. See if you see any errors.  If not: tail -f /var/log/syslog  #Leave it running,  Alt-Right-Arrow, (or Ctrl-Alt-F7) Attempt to login again.  Ctrl-Alt-F6 (back to tty6) and see if there is anything in syslog showing up about any sort of errors.  (Or just look at the file and see now;  cat /var/log/syslog )
[15:18] <holstein> raub: nothing that is supported for the desktop officially AFAIK
[15:19] <varunendra> joshu, you can search the net for auto-reconnect script. I think I saw one once, unfortunately (actually fortunately then), it was on the forums. That script not only could initiate a connection, but also monitor and re-establish it if disconnected while use.
[15:19] <deltadown> hi
[15:19] <S-1438> when installing Ubuntu 12.04.2 for a dual boot system, the install process lets you re-size the partitions however you wish to but there is nothing that indicates which partition is for which operating system. Is there a way to tell?
[15:19] <joshu> varunendra Thanks for the tip I'll google
[15:20] <deltadown> some one can help me get installation done? got stuck at "trying to enable frame buffer..."
[15:20] <mumpitzel> deltadown: what videocard? optimus?
[15:20] <DJones> raub: 2.6.32 was in lucid, but desktop support for that ended in May 2013, precise starts at 3.2
[15:20] <holstein> raub: 10.04, supported for the server, has a 2.6 kernel
[15:21] <varunendra> joshu, for the boot time execution, you can add any command/script to /etc/rc.local file. Just make sure to insert any lines before the "exit 0" line in it.
[15:21] <holstein> !nomodeset | deltadown is what i would try
[15:21] <raub> holstein: thanks!
[15:21] <trnv> now if only canonical hadn't forgotten to patch ubuntuforum ;)
[15:22] <holstein> trnv: careful, someone might assume you are volunteering
[15:22] <joshu> varunendra ok I'm curious to know which method is better using the /etc/rc.local or lightdm display-setup-script
[15:22] <varunendra> S-1438, it is best to do the partition manipulation from within windows if it is the other OS.
[15:22] <deltadown> ok ill try tath i didnt really care about grafik inside dont want run anny graphik on it
[15:22] <trnv> disk management, then shrink windows partition
[15:22] <trnv> safer
[15:23] <usr13> varunendra: from MS Windows
[15:23] <varunendra> joshu, joshu the /etc/rc.local is guaranteed to 'Initiate' the script, never tried the lightdm method and don't even know about it :)
[15:23] <usr13> varunendra: Wait.... What do you mean "if it is the other OS"?
[15:24] <S-1438> I created a "logical" partition with "mini-tool partition wizard" and installed Ubuntu but it would boot to Ubuntu. It acted as if it wasn;t there.
[15:24] <usr13> varunendra: Oh wait, that's someone else's question.  Sorry, wasn't paying attention.
[15:24] <varunendra> usr13, yeah.
[15:24] <tom_o> ads
[15:25] <varunendra> :)
[15:25] <wiak> bo
[15:26] <deltadown> this didn't help is there a command to run this without any graphik or some thing?
[15:26] <S-1438> varunendra, I created a "logical" partition with "mini-tool partition wizard" and installed Ubuntu but it would boot to Ubuntu. It acted as if it wasn;t there.
[15:26] <ShotokanZH> hi all
[15:26] <usr13> S-1438: It's best to let Ubuntu's installer create it's own partition.  (Just leave empty space, start the install process and let the Ubuntu Installer's partition manager (gparted), create it's own partition(s).)
[15:26] <ShotokanZH> i've a problem with the grub installation on an ASUS k55vd
[15:26] <varunendra> S-1438, so you've got Ubuntu installed and it doesn't let you boot windows anymore? Please elaborate your problem if I'm misunderstanding.
[15:26] <ShotokanZH> it seems that the bios automatically bypasses it, booting windows only
[15:27] <ShotokanZH> (even if grub is installed in /dev/sda!)
[15:27] <varunendra> S-1438, what isn't there?
[15:27] <wiak> try choose ubuntu from the boot device in bios ShotokanZH
[15:28] <raub> varunendra: I wonder if his grub is setup to not bother offering a menu
[15:29] <ShotokanZH> wiak, i'll try now
[15:29] <ShotokanZH> rebootin'
[15:29] <wiak> you can try using the grub-customizer on a live cd to install grub correctly, ubuntu seems to have a problem installing grub on drive
[15:29] <varunendra> raub, that's what I'm trying to confirm. Shouldn't happen normally though.
[15:29] <usr13> S-1438: You may need to tell us again what the problem is.  Tell it differently, with a bit more detail, so that we can understand better.
[15:30] <S-1438> varunendra, I created a "logical" partition with "mini-tool partition wizard" and installed Ubuntu but it wouldn't boot to Ubuntu. The partition with Ubuntu didn't appear on the "boot List" so it couldn't boot to Ubuntu  It would only boot to windows. the partition existed but the PC wouldn't boot from that partition.
[15:30] <wiak> ShotokanZH: didnt work?
[15:31] <ShotokanZH> wiak, i could only choose which drive to boot
[15:31] <ShotokanZH> no options at all to select a partition
[15:31] <varunendra> S-1438, Did the installation of Ubuntu finish properly? Is it windows 8 ?
[15:31] <usr13> S-1438:  First: It's best to let Ubuntu's installer create it's own partition.  (Just leave empty space, start the install process and let the Ubuntu Installer's partition manager (gparted), create it's own partition(s).)  Second:  You need to let the grub boot loader write to the MBR of the master Hard Drive, (if you don't, it more-than-likely won't boot to Ubuntu.)
[15:32] <wiak> ShotokanZH: did you turn off secure boot?
[15:32] <ShotokanZH> wiak, i did
[15:32] <wiak> hmm, the way i fix the same problem was to install (x)ubuntu on a external (SSD) drive :p
[15:33] <usr13> S-1438: And, you need more than one partitions.  One for swap and at least one more to actually install on. (I use three.  One for swap, one for /  and one more LARGE one for /home/
[15:33] <ShotokanZH> wiak, well that sucks lol that's not a solution dude xD
[15:33] <wiak> i think it has something to do with GPT, boot loader not installing correctly and windows 8
[15:34] <ShotokanZH> wiak, strange thing is that i installed win8+kubuntu in other 3 pcs
[15:34] <ShotokanZH> neither of 'em has that problem
[15:34] <usr13> S-1438: You might just do the install over.    It will detect the empty space and partition and install on it.  (By the way; How much space did you set asside for the Ubuntu install?)
[15:34] <wiak> those pc didnt hav efi i bet
[15:34] <wiak> :P
[15:34] <S-1438> usr13, that would be the best way to go but the installer doesn't indicate which partition is for which operating system. It lets me chose the size of each partition but it doesn't tell me which is which.
[15:34] <ShotokanZH> wiak, every single one with efi
[15:35] <varunendra> wiak, usr13 it can be any of the cases, both are common - the UEFI thing as well as the grub installing on the usb instead of the HDD.
[15:35] <wiak> did they have GPT drives?
[15:35] <usr13> S-1438: Yes it does.  It *asks*  if you want to use a partition for swap or / or /home/ etc.
[15:35] <ShotokanZH> varunendra, the uefi is installed in the hdd, i'm sure about that
[15:35] <ShotokanZH> sorry
[15:36] <ShotokanZH> the grub is installed in the hdd
[15:36] <S-1438> usr13, so "home" is for the Ubuntu partition?
[15:36] <usr13> S-1438: "home" is for personal files.   / is for system files.
[15:36] <joti234> hi fren, i got my ubuntu corrupted after i compiled kernel then i had grub rescue problem i formatted the partitions using live ubuntu usb then i tried to install lilo too but still i can install i tried to install windows too its saying required drive partition missing i realised that i formatted restore partition so what what can i do now
[15:36] <usr13> S-1438: How much space did you set asside?
[15:37] <ShotokanZH> wiak, i even tried with easybcd
[15:37] <ShotokanZH> not working |:
[15:37] <wiak> i think the issue is GPT
[15:37] <wiak> ShotokanZH: did the other pcs have GPT drives?
[15:38] <wiak> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
[15:38] <varunendra> S-1438, Did you enter the manual partitioning mode? (the "Try Something else" option). It only shows the generic names of the partitions if I remember correctly. The best way to identify the target partition is to leave it as empty space, so you can distinguish it from the FAT and NTFS partitions.
[15:38] <ShotokanZH> wiak, i don't remember, my home pc uses a corsair force 3 ssd
[15:38] <S-1438> usr13, I stopped the install process at the point where it wanted me to decide the size of the partitions until I could get an answer to my question but to answer yours, I wanted about 25GB for Ubuntu.
[15:38] <joti234> hi fren, i got my ubuntu corrupted after i compiled kernel then i had grub rescue problem i formatted the partitions using live ubuntu usb then i tried to install lilo too but still i cant install i tried to install windows too its saying required drive partition missing i realised that i formatted restore partition so what what can i do now
[15:39] <JY1> Hello,guys.
[15:39] <ShotokanZH> wiak, this laptop uses a 224gb corsair force gs
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> joti234: did you make backups of your restore partition?
[15:39] <usr13> S-1438: How much RAM do you have in this system?
[15:39] <joti234> actionparnsip no
[15:39] <S-1438> usr13, 6GB
[15:40] <joti234> what does that partition contain
[15:40] <varunendra> ShotokanZH, sorry I wasn't referring to you, it was about S-1438 's issue...
[15:40] <usr13> S-1438: OK. With 25G, I'd do it something like this:  First Partition:  6G swap   Second Partition: 24G (the rest) for /
[15:41] <usr13> S-1438: Two partitions, one for swap and the rest for   /
[15:41] <joti234> ActionParsnip : no i didnt what does that partition contain
[15:41] <S-1438> varunendra, I looked at the maual partition mode but didn't screw around with it too much. I am not sure of the settings to use so I left it alone rather than turn my PC in a paper weight
[15:42] <varunendra> S-1438, can you repartition from within windows? Just leave a 25 GB empty space after shrinking other partitions. It will be easy to identify during Ubuntu installation.
[15:42] <usr13> S-1438: ( /   is the root directories, all other directories (including "home") will reside witin the root partition.)
[15:42] <usr13> S-1438: You can go with the auto partitioning mode.  That is ok too.
[15:42] <Guest11872> my mouse stop working randomly and start again after a few seconds
[15:43] <usr13> S-1438: Correction: ( /   is the root directory, all other directories (including "home") will reside witin the root directory.)
[15:43]  * wiak slaps usr13 around a bit with a large trout
[15:43] <usr13> wiak: Have a suggestion?
[15:44] <S-1438> usr13. the auto partition is preferable to me. I will just have to cross my fingers an hope that it picks the correct partition for the correct operating system. thanks guys. Have a good one.
[15:44] <usr13> (corrections welcome)
[15:44] <wiak> try using easeus parition master in windows, resize..
[15:44] <varunendra> S-1438, unless you are going to use "Hibernation" in Ubuntu, 1 to 2 GB swap is normally good. 6GB is not necessary. But if you do plan to use Hibernate, keep it slightly above 6GB (the amount of your RAM).
[15:45] <hotdogggg> Guys, my lightdm is creating a login loop..
[15:45] <usr13> varunendra: You missed him.  But rather than go through that, why not just set asside enough just in case>>>
[15:45] <wiak> hotdogggg: hmm trow lightdm a hotdog, and it will  stop
[15:45] <wiak> :P
[15:45] <usr13> hotdogggg: Did you login to tty6 ?
[15:46] <usr13> hotdogggg Ctrl-Alt-F6 Login as same user. See if you see any errors.  If not: tail -f /var/log/syslog  #Leave it running,  Alt-Right-Arrow, (or Ctrl-Alt-F7) Attempt to login again.  Ctrl-Alt-F6 (back to tty6) and see if there is anything in syslog showing up about any sort of errors.  (Or just look at the file and see now;  cat /var/log/syslog )
[15:46] <varunendra> usr13, because I set up 4 gb thinking the same way, now it is mostly lying unused ;)
[15:46] <usr13> varunendra: How large is your HD?
[15:47] <wiak> larger than yours
[15:47] <wiak> :P
[15:47] <usr13> Probably ;)
[15:47] <varunendra> usr13, Hehe... 500 GB, of which at most 6-8 GB is vacant at any given time.... ;P
[15:47] <varunendra> lol !!
[15:49] <usr13> varunendra: Maybe [partially] unused but it's there if you need it.
[15:49] <datgame> i have a problem with my mouse,randomly stops
[15:49] <datgame> x
[15:50] <DCE25ESK> http://www.upload.ee/files/3467055/Thornhill_and_Palmer-_A_Natural_History_of_Rape.pdf.html
[15:50] <varunendra> usr13, I also never trust the autopartition mode of the installer. The forums are full of 'mistaken' partitioning tragedies of users due to that. :/
[15:51] <usr13> varunendra: That may be good advise.  I'll consider it.  Thanks for telling me.  Having said that, I've used it before and it seems to work just fine.  I *really* think the tragedies are [mostly] due to "operator-error".
[15:52] <DJones> DCE25ESK: What does that have to do with Ubuntu support
[15:52] <hotdogggg> usr13: Syslog shows no difference, anyother logs I should be looking?
[15:52] <usr13> varunendra: The bottom line is, that if you set asside free-space before you begin, the installer will use it.
[15:52] <deltadown> some one can help me to install "übuntu-12.04.2-server-i3862" from a usb stick crated with LiLi on a 32bit machine where currentlx win7 is running on witch works without problem ? after press Install Ubuntu server it stuck at "trying to enable the frame buffer..."   graphic card is NVIDIA geForce FX5700
[15:52] <usr13> hotdogggg: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:53] <deltadown> nomodeset checked dont help
[15:53] <varunendra> usr13, who knows. Another common error is the GRUB going to USB instead of HDD. Yeah, creating the partition beforehand is the best thing..
[15:53] <usr13> varunendra: "
[15:54] <usr13> varunendra: "creating *the* partion beforehand"? Not sure about that.  I do not know what creating the partition beforehand would have to do with grub being installed to the wrong drive.
[15:54] <Dell_the_Engie> hai
[15:54] <usr13> varunendra: ... they are two different processes.
[15:55] <varunendra> usr13, sorry, I meant creating the empty space beforehand, and it was about choosing the target partition, not about grub.
[15:55] <Dell_the_Engie> HELLO
[15:55] <Dell_the_Engie> :3
[15:55] <microtux> Hi
[15:56] <wiak> usr13:cant you choose the partition to install grub?
[15:56] <wiak> it is in the advanced settings in the installer
[15:56] <varunendra> deltadown, isn't the "server" installer text only ?
[15:56] <usr13> hotdogggg: ls -l .Xauthority  #Show us the output.
[15:56] <Dell_the_Engie> #Windows ftw
[15:56] <deltadown> i hoped so but this dont look like text only -.-
[15:57] <usr13> hotdogggg: ls -l .Xauthority  #Is it owned by the correct user?
[15:57] <varunendra> deltadown, did you check the integrity of the downloaded ISO ?
[15:57] <hotdogggg> usr13: root
[15:57] <usr13> wiak: Yes, you can choose a partition to install grub on, but the default is MBR
[15:57] <deltadown> no :D
[15:58] <usr13> hotdogggg: sudo chown user .Xauthority  #Where "user" is the actual user.
[15:58] <varunendra> wiak, grub should never be installed to a partition unless it is a GPT partitioning scheme.
[15:58] <Dell_the_Engie> i will brb
[15:58] <varunendra> md5sum | deltadown
[15:58] <varunendra> !md5sum | deltadown
[15:59] <usr13> hotdogggg: (That is the problem.  Somehow, .Xauthority has come to be owned by root. That shouldn't be.  I dono what you did, but maybe you shouldn't do what ever that was again ;)
[15:59] <OerHeks> usr13, seen that bug before, part from an upgrade cycle.
[15:59] <hotdogggg> usr13: TYVM!! That worked!
[16:00] <usr13> OerHeks: Really? Is it a distribution upgrade or jsut software updates?
[16:00] <varunendra> deltadown, if the source ISO is okay, you may try other boot options as well, especially "Check disc for defects" if that option is available on USB : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[16:00] <usr13> hotdogggg: Good.  Glad we figured it out.  (And sorry we didn't think of that one sooner.)
[16:00] <OerHeks> usr13, distro upgrade.
[16:00] <nashtrik> I run 11.10 with kernel upgraded to 3.2. My problem is with my DVD writer.Once I load a DVD of say pictures,upon removing and inserting another DVD,it does not read the contents of the new DVD...simply keeps on showing the folders and files of the previous disk like it has stored it in the buffer. I had to reboot the system to browse the contents of another disk. Any solutions..?
[16:00] <deltadown> is it possible disk is not ok and windows running?
[16:00] <usr13> OerHeks: Ok.. That is interesting.  Not sure why it would do that, but thanks for the info.  Will keep that in mind.
[16:01] <varunendra> deltadown, sorry didn't get you..
[16:03] <gagamel> hi, what's a good place to ask some questions about mail encryption and signing ?
[16:03] <gagamel> better take it to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[16:03] <deltadown> where i find correct sum? maybe i should download at other place than www.ubuntu.com/download ?
[16:04] <nashtrik> I run 11.10 with kernel upgraded to 3.2. My problem is with my DVD writer.Once I load a DVD of say pictures,upon removing and inserting another DVD,it does not read the contents of the new DVD...simply keeps on showing the folders and files of the previous disk like it has stored it in the buffer. I had to reboot the system to browse the contents of another disk. Any solutions..?
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> nashtrik  for one: 11.10 is no longer supported, !eol, dead
[16:06] <varunendra> deltadown, it should be in a file on the ISO itself, as well as here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[16:06] <nashtrik> I know that friend Monkeydust
[16:06] <TandyUK> can anyone help me boot my system manually from /dev/sdb2, ignoring all the stupid uuid stuff in grubs menu
[16:07] <TandyUK> it keeps "finding and mounting /dev/sda2 on /"
[16:07] <varunendra> deltadown, if you choose to download again (not needed if md5sum matches), I'd strongly recommend downloading via torrent : http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[16:07] <nashtrik> but browsing a dvd should be one of the basic requisites of  an OS,irrespective of the version and shd there be a way to rectify tha t problem
[16:10] <nashtrik> varunendra bhai,kahaan se baat kar rahe ho ?
[16:10] <varunendra> nashtrik, I think I heard of that kind of problem on 11.10 before, but the real problem is that you'll rarely find someone with an EOL version here, so can't hope for much help unless it is something trivial.
[16:10] <varunendra> nashtrik, Umm... UP east ! :D
[16:11] <nashtrik> ok...myself MP south...raining cats and dogs
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> nashtrik: 11.10 is no longer supported in any way
[16:12] <varunendra> nashtrik, just finished here - heavy rain and thunder ;). Anyway, upgrading is really the best advice for you unless there is a good enough reason to stay with 11.10
[16:13] <nashtrik> so do I reckon my dear friend,my pal,mu crony..but there must be a way to repair the problem in the ubuntu repositories...like new drivers etc'
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> nashtrik: there are no repos for Oneiric, it is dead
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> nashtrik  the 11.10 repositories are no longer used, upgraded or maintained
[16:14] <SNAKE> how to change nickname pls i want commands ????????????????nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> !nick | SNAKE
[16:14] <SNAKE> ok
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> SNAKE: you may want to look at your keyboard too, the leys seem to stick
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> *keys
[16:15] <SNAKE> !nick aaaa
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> nashtrik  in short: this channel cannot help you do what you want
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> SNAKE: try:   /nick aaaa     as ubottu stated
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> SNAKE: it's there in the brackets
[16:15] <nashtrik> OK...seems as if I will have to upgrade ...which version do you suggest..the LTS 12.04 or the latest...Ok..got it monkeydust...!!!
[16:16] <SNAKE> aaaa Nickname is already in use.
[16:16] <SNAKE> -
[16:16] <Siebjee> Hi all, i'm wondering where ubuntu is storing its old installation if you have re-installed ubuntu but stated that you didn't want a format while leaving the old data intact
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> nashtrik: i suggest the LTS, it is supported til April 2017, Raring is only supported til January 2014
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> SNAKE  then try soething else, bluhbluh or blahblah or so
[16:16] <varunendra> nashtrik, I prefer LTS
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> SNAKE: then choose another.....
[16:16] <SNAKE> ok
[16:17] <SNAKE> i kill safe
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> SNAKE: why did you have to tell us it was aready in use, what does it achieve?
[16:17] <nashtrik> Thanks...so I was thinking...jus another suggestion...shd I upgrade via the software center or shd I go for backup,format and fresh installation..?
[16:18] <holstein> nashtrik: i like to see the live desktop. i also like fresh installs.. you "should" do what fits your needs
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> nashtrik  the latter is the fastest, easies and cleanest
[16:19] <silv3r_m00n> what is the difference between tightvncserver and vncserver ?
[16:19] <harper00> Anyone know why www.kdenlive.org is displaying as forbidden access?
[16:19] <holstein> silv3r_m00n: AFAIK, tight is a compression setup
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> harper00: try in #kde
[16:19] <OerHeks> nashtrik, it is your choice, but it would not hurt downloading a fresh iso and putting it on an usb-stick before upgrading
[16:20] <silv3r_m00n> holstein: when i typed man tightvncserver it shows me the man page for vncserver
[16:20] <harper00> thank you
[16:20] <holstein> silv3r_m00n: AFAIK its a vnc server with tight compression
[16:21] <nashtrik> thats ok Oerheks,but will a new installation automatically format my hard disk..? Will it give a chance to take a backup of pictures/documents...?
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> nashtrik  backup first, format happens during install
[16:22] <holstein> nashtrik: boot the live CD, as i asiad i like to test with, and backup what you like.. you can then install from that same live CD
[16:22] <OerHeks> nashtrik, no, new install does not give that option
[16:23] <Siebjee> Hi all, i'm wondering where ubuntu is storing its old installation if you have re-installed ubuntu but stated that you didn't want a format while leaving the old data intact.
[16:23] <nashtrik> Got your points Monkeydust,holstein and OerHeks....will do accordingly....thanks for the valuable advice
[16:24] <minple> ...
[16:25] <nashtrik> Yeah...actually I had something in mind of the like of a new version superimposed on the old one...keeping all the previous partitions,folders intact...I know I am talking Windowishly...but consider me as a newbie
[16:27] <Setsuna> hi there, I'm looking for a graphics designer for a work. If you are interested pm me. thanks :)
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> !details | serafinm
[16:28] <MonkeyDust> oops
[16:31] <Kurlon> Afternoon all, got a weird issue that I'm not sure how to chase further.  Box as exim on it, I can see the process running but instead of showing as running under Debian-exim it just shows the owner as UID 110.  User Debian-exim has UID 110 in /etc/passwd so I'm not sure why that's not translating?
[16:32] <Kurlon> File permissions correctly show the uname instead of the UID
[16:32] <minple> chrome in ubuntu desktop automaticaly open new tab ! help me
[16:32] <Kurlon> Interestingly, dbus-daemon is showing as uid 104 rather than messagebus
[16:34] <Tikiko> can anyone help me?? im a bit noob in terms of linux, i cant seem to login my ubuntu box to my samba primary domain controller
[16:34] <raub> Tikiko: check logs and error messages
[16:34] <ikonia> Tikiko: tht's an interesting and potentially challanging setup
[16:35] <ikonia> Tikiko: how have you setup ubuntu to auth against the domain,
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> Kurlon  debian-exim does not exist in raring, what is the output of    cat /etc/issue ?
[16:35] <raub> If I disabled network-manager, shouldn't enabling vlan turnking be just a matter of enabling 8021q module and then editing /etc/network/interfaces? http://pastie.org/private/7f8ejijtr2gcnlhnlhqwcq
[16:35] <Kurlon> MonkeyDust: This is a ye-olde intrepid box I can't retire nor replace at the moment.
[16:35] <Tikiko> when i try to login it just says wrong password although im 100% sure its the right one
[16:35] <ikonia> Tikiko: how have you setup ubuntu to auth against the domain,
[16:35] <Tikiko> but i can easily login with my Win7 box
[16:36] <deltadown> some one can help me to install "übuntu-12.04.2-server-i3862" from a usb stick crated with LiLi on a 32bit machine where currentlx win7 is running on witch works without problem ? i changed vga=788 in vga=normal and added fb=false to preceed to keyboard and language selection
[16:36] <Tikiko> you wanna know like the smb.conf file?
[16:36] <deltadown> but there i stuck again
[16:36] <raub> ikonia: I was going to ask about that myself; the ubuntu box itself may not be authed
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> Kurlon  intrepid  8.10 is not supported here, it's !eol
[16:36] <ikonia> Tikiko: that won't authenticate ubuntu
[16:36] <ikonia> raub: it appears it's not
[16:36] <aenemic> Hey guys, I have been following this guide point by point and only boot into shell every time at the end GUI won´t load, any idea what I´m doing wrong? http://randomtutor.blogspot.com.es/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina.html
[16:36] <pagec> ubuntu 12.04 trying to install smbldap, i download and ran the script smbldap-config.pl and i get this error: "Can't exec @PERL_CMD@ at ./smbldap-config.pl line 1." Perl is installed, anyone know what to do to fix it?
[16:37] <Tikiko> ikonia LDAP authenticates the samba users
[16:37] <ikonia> Tikiko: you're not making any sense
[16:37] <Tikiko> sorry english technical terms are hard for me
[16:38] <ikonia> Tikiko: I understand
[16:38] <Kurlon> MonkeyDust: I know it's eol, wasn't looking for version specific support, curious if others had seen the symptom set and had pointers on how to chase further.  I doubt it's something specific to 8.10.
[16:38] <faoiseamh> I strace'd a process using 100% cpu (vmware natd) and see it is out of file descriptors (EMFILE (Too many open files)). It is running as root and as root ulimit -n shows unlimited. What limit is it hitting?
[16:38] <Tikiko> ikonia i basically followed the ubuntu server guide
[16:38] <faoiseamh> ^ on 12.04
[16:38] <raub> Kurlon: I wonder if an exim channel would be more helpful
[16:39] <kapad> can i resize an extended partition without needing to unmount it?
[16:39] <thehumanelement> no
[16:39] <Kurlon> raub: Given the dbus process is showing the same lack of uid to uname mapping, I'm more thinking it's something in how PS works.
[16:39] <Pici> kapad: no
[16:39] <thehumanelement> kapad: ^
[16:39] <ikonia> Tikiko: are you tryig to auth connecting to a share, or logging into ubuntu
[16:39] <kapad> damn... thanks
[16:39] <thehumanelement> you can't resize a FILESYSTEM without unmounting it first
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> Kurlon  what raub says: 65+ people in the #exim channel
[16:39] <thehumanelement> technically you could make the PARTITION bigger (but probably smaller would be a bad idea) with the FILESYSTEM mounted still but it would be a bit silly
[16:40] <Tikiko> ikonia the closest explanation i can find is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MWBhlaLIxQ <-- but i need to login with a ubuntu box
[16:40] <kgwgk> hello
[16:40] <pagec> That would depend on your filesystm
[16:40] <raub> kapad: most filesystems 9ext, msdos, etc) get excited when you try to size down
[16:40] <pagec> some do and some do not support online resizes
[16:40] <ikonia> Tikiko: I'm not watching a youtube video to explain samba
[16:40] <ikonia> sorry
[16:41] <faoiseamh> I strace'd a process using 100% cpu (vmware natd) and see it is out of file descriptors (EMFILE (Too many open files)). It is running as root and as root ulimit -n shows unlimited. What limit is it hitting? This is on ubuntu 12.04
[16:41] <Tikiko> ikonia can i pm you?
[16:42] <tom_o> someone please help me
[16:42] <ikonia> Tikiko: can you not use the channel ?
[16:42] <Pici> tom_o: with?
[16:42] <ikonia> faoiseamh: kernel limit ?
[16:42] <ikonia> faoiseamh: the linux equivilent of nflocks
[16:42] <tom_o> an hour ago, some tell me some tips
[16:43] <faoiseamh> ikonia: i did an lsof -p <pid taht is limited> | wc -l and only saw 1033 open files
[16:43] <tom_o> to change ownership with "sudo chown -R tom_o:tom_o  ~/.wine"
[16:43] <tom_o> i want to change it back but i dont know how to
[16:43] <kapad> @raub I have a extended partition, with 2 ext4 partitions. I want to delete one of them and size down the extended partition to use in another partition
[16:43] <Pici> tom_o: Back to what?
[16:43] <tom_o> back to default
[16:43] <ikonia> faoiseamh: you need to look at the system, not the user
[16:44] <TandyUK> tom_o: the same way you changed it, but with the user/group you want to change it back to
[16:44] <TandyUK> there is no magic "undo"
[16:44] <tom_o> what i should type?
[16:44] <Pici> tom_o: The default should be your username.
[16:44] <faoiseamh> ikonia: look at in terms of open files or setting the limit? lsof -n | wc -l returns ~16500
[16:45] <TandyUK> whats the correct way to install a new grub on my new set of disks, and make them bootable?
[16:45] <tom_o> what should i type on terminal
[16:45] <faoiseamh> taht 1033 looks suspcisiouly like the 1024 + a few other things lsof is picking up
[16:45] <TandyUK> currently cloning from sdb to sdh
[16:45] <ikonia> faoiseamh: I suspect you're hitting a system/kernel limit rather than looking at ulimit
[16:45] <daivyk> hi, I am trying to configure eclipse with ubuntu but no success so far, the problem is that I need to add a path to ld_library_path, but it is always showing blank, so I searched for and created a my.conf inside the /etc/ld.so.conf, but eclipse does not find either, so I have create a SH file with "export ld_library_path=.../path/" and execute eclipse with this SH and it works, anyone know how to configure ubuntu properly to find ld_libr
[16:45] <Pici> tom_o: What is your user's username?
[16:46] <Kurlon> Ok, issue is with ps, by default it's column width isn't wide enough to show those names so it reverts to UID instead.  Tweak the column width via args and viola, proper unames shown and I can stop freaking out that something's fishy on that box.
[16:46] <tom_o> tom_o
[16:46] <faoiseamh> ikonia: any tips on diagnosing what limit I'm hitting?
[16:46] <TandyUK> tom_o: "chown -R tom_o:tom_o /path"
[16:46] <Kurlon> http://compgroups.net/comp.os.linux.misc/ps-lists-user-as-uid-instead-of-username/490780 for those curious
[16:46] <ikonia> faoiseamh: look at the kernel settings in sysctl, look at your ram usage, make sure you're not hitting the limit as you're out of ram
[16:47] <tom_o> the tip that those guy give me is to change wine ownership right ?
[16:47] <Nahledge> After this update my mouse is gone. Unless im in firefox or chrome. Anywhere else the cursor does not exist, Why?
[16:48] <Nahledge> Actually, my cursor seems to be gone completely unless its over an image or a link, or a peice of text, or a blank field, anywhere dynamic basically.
[16:48] <tom_o> cannot accesss no such file or directory
[16:48] <Nahledge> Nowhere static can my cursor exist.
[16:48] <Nahledge> Why?
[16:48] <faoiseamh> ikonia: plenty of resources available(60gb+ ram free), I'll check other settings in sysctl though. Here's a snippet of strace - http://pastebin.com/r8APxiY5
[16:48] <TandyUK> tom_o: http://linux.die.net/man/1/chown
[16:48] <joshu> does anyone know how to pass lightdm username and password to a script?
[16:49] <ikonia> faoiseamh: http://cherry.world.edoors.com/CPZKoGkpxfbQ
[16:49] <raub> kapad: if the partition is in use, you will need to boot single user mode
[16:49] <pantalaimon> Why is mono on Ubuntu so ancient? (2.10 <-> 3.2)
[16:49] <Nahledge> After this update my mouse is gone. Unless im in firefox or chrome. Anywhere else the cursor does not exist, Why?
[16:49] <Nahledge> Actually, my cursor seems to be gone completely unless its over an image or a link, or a peice of text, or a blank field, anywhere dynamic basically.
[16:49] <Nahledge> After this update my mouse is gone. Unless im in firefox or chrome. Anywhere else the cursor does not exist, Why?
[16:49] <kapad> @raub whats single user mode?
[16:49] <raub> If those partitions are the only extended ones, you will need to unmount, resize, and put it back
[16:49] <TandyUK> Nahledge: we heard you the first no, no idea
[16:49] <raub> kapad: I think they can it repair mode or whatever
[16:50] <kapad> oh.. like root mode?
[16:50] <raub> kapad: it would be a bit easier using lvm, but then you would need to make sure you do not get extended partitions unless you need them
[16:51] <raub> kapad: kinda of. It starts with the bare minimum
[16:51] <faoiseamh> ikonia: systemwide fd limit is 6514245, don't think that's it
[16:51] <kapad> @raub problem is that my root partition is one among the 2 extended partitions. I need to boot from usb..
[16:51] <raub> as few services running as possible
[16:51] <kapad> dont have one handy
[16:51] <ikonia> faoiseamh: may need to check a little more, it's just the fd limit
[16:51] <raub> kapad: that is a major bummer
[16:52] <kapad> lol.. yeah... hoping there was a work around..
[16:52] <kapad> cool.. thanks.
[16:52] <faoiseamh> ikonia: there are tons of sysctl settings, i'm looking at ones w/ limit or max in the name but i'm just shooting in the dark now
[16:53] <raub> kapad: desktop or server?
[16:53] <ikonia> faoiseamh: you just checked file description, check max open files and file locks (sometimes called nflocks)
[16:54] <kapad> desktop..
[16:54] <kapad> laptop actually
[16:55] <kapad> no cd drive also
[16:55] <raub> My suggestion for your partitions:
[16:55] <raub> The rest in the second partition inside a lvm
[16:55] <datgame> do you guys have problems with skype?
[16:56] <kapad> @raub - message got cut
[16:56] <raub> Which part?
[16:56] <kapad> My suggestion for your partitions: <cut>  The rest in the second partition inside a lvm
[16:56] <raub> Anywhoo, first partition (primary) is for /boot
[16:56] <datgame> anyone have problems with skype?
[16:56] <raub> make it like 512Mb or 1GB
[16:56] <kapad> aah..
[16:57] <faoiseamh> ikonia: i cat'd /proc/<pid in question>/limits and i see the max open files is limited to 1024/4096 - any idea why that would be when I have the aforementioned settings?
[16:57] <raub> then create a second primary prtition and put lvm in it
[16:57] <raub> If laptop, encrypting it is not a bad idea either
[16:57] <kapad> @raub - I need to dual boot windows for games. For some reason the thing needs to be the first partition..
[16:57] <raub> Aha
[16:57] <kapad> and after this I ran out of the limit on 4 partitions.
[16:57] <raub> The point still remains:
[16:57] <raub> windows, /boot, /lvm
[16:57] <kapad> encrypting sounds good.. what about speed?
[16:58] <raub> because inside the lvm you can make partitions as you wish
[16:58] <raub> and you can add an external drive to the volume group, move stuff out, and resize as needed live
[16:58] <kapad> its currently like /ROOT(for windows to work) /win /extended(/boot /home) /common
[16:59] <kapad> I couldn't think of anything better when installing.. and now need to resize.
[17:00] <kapad> which is a pain in the a**
[17:00] <Prometheian> How do I make Ubuntu's terminal use bash instead of whatever it's using now.
[17:00] <Prometheian> As default
[17:00] <raub> yep
[17:00] <raub> Prometheian: in your user's terminal?
[17:00] <raub> or for each script?
[17:01] <Prometheian> When I start Terminal, yes. Just as default so when I open the application it starts on bash.
[17:01] <raub> Edit /etc/passwd's entry for that user
[17:01] <Pici> Prometheian: it should use bash by default.
[17:01] <raub> Be nice to that file though
[17:02] <Rubeus> agreed
[17:02] <raub> Pici: fgrep username /etc/passwd should answer that
[17:02] <Pici> Prometheian, raub: using chsh is certainly easier/better if the user in question doesn't have access to change /etc/passwd (and perhaps even if they do have access)
[17:02] <faoiseamh> can I change limits for a running process?
[17:02] <Prometheian> I'm fairly confident about which user I'm on, but what's the command to check which profile I'm currently using?
[17:03] <Pici> Prometheian: echo $SHELL
[17:03] <raub> or env
[17:03] <Prometheian> Okay, here's the weird thing. It says I'm using Bash but I have to type in bash before I can use any of my aliases.
[17:03] <datgame> anyone having problems with skype 4.2?
[17:04] <raub> Prometheian: maybe it did not load your profile?
[17:04] <Lancerb1> Each time I run a Windows program through Wine in Kubuntu, I get a "Program Error" window telling me that winemenubuilder.exe has encountered a serious problem.
[17:04] <n00dlep0rn> datgame: Are you aware all Skype data is recorded by the NSA? I recommend Jitsi as an alternative
[17:04] <raub> How do I install a package from the cd instead of network?
[17:04] <Lancerb1> I'm not sure if it's an Ubuntu problem, or a Wine problem.
[17:04] <Prometheian> Oh yeah, I forgot. When ever I start Ubuntu I get a fuckload of errors.
[17:05] <Prometheian> Sorry, yeah, that'd explain it. :)
[17:05] <datgame> n00dlep0rn, no i will try it that
[17:15] <Liam88> dd
[17:18] <sharpshooter> hi guys i got a big problem here I'm using ubuntu 13.04 in my hp 550 laptop the problem is that the os is freezing after a while,
[17:20] <levo[420]> is there any french to english and vice versa dictionary for ubuntu?
[17:21] <euxneks> Hi, I'd like to disable trackpoint (little red nubby thing in the keyboard) on my lenovo W520 - is there an easy GUI way to do it?
[17:25] <antifa> hi
[17:25] <antifa> need some help pls
[17:25] <rohff> hi
[17:26] <iceroot> !ask | antifa
[17:26] <iceroot> antifa: and we like it to keep politic out of this channel, so it would be nice if you could change your nick
[17:26] <rohff> test
[17:27] <antifa> well I have a laptop with ubuntu 12.04 witch is conected trugh a wifi router to a xp desktop, how can I find out the ip of my xp desktop
[17:27] <antifa> ?
[17:27] <euxneks> holy crap I didn't even know what antifa meant..
[17:27] <euxneks> wow
[17:27] <vader_> :)
[17:27] <iceroot> vader_: use the command "ipconfig" on the windows machine
[17:28] <aaron> can i communicate with different services in jitsi?
[17:28] <Guest31189> for example aol with hotmail?
[17:28] <vader_> and if I want to do it from my ubuntu machine ? :)
[17:28] <iceroot> vader_: then you need the machine name
[17:29] <vader_> smbtree ?
[17:29] <ciprian> ?
[17:29] <iceroot> vader_: you could also try arp, smb tools and so on
[17:29] <iceroot> vader_: but that will only work when you already have a connection to that machine
[17:30] <ciprian> Wow ... nice
[17:30] <ciprian> It's the first time when i'm on irc
[17:30] <levo[420]> welcome to IRC ciprian
[17:30] <ciprian> Thanks
[17:30] <vader_> I see
[17:31] <ciprian> It's compicated because it's only console [ irssi ]
[17:31] <ciprian> But i will learn
[17:31] <Umair> can I use debian package in python anyhow? how can I import it?
[17:31] <iceroot> Umair: #debian #python
[17:31] <auronandace> ciprian: you can get a gui client (xchat comes to mind)
[17:32] <Umair> iceroot: using ubuntu :)
[17:32] <iceroot> Umair: doesnt matter, its related to python and debian
[17:32] <Umair> and no response from #python :(
[17:32] <auronandace> Umair: never mix different distro packages
[17:33] <Umair> auronandace: poppler-utils is a debian package which I can't find for python so no option
[17:34] <DeonP> hi i'm in trouble lol
[17:34] <auronandace> !info poppler-utils | Umair
[17:34] <DeonP> upgraded from 12.03 to 13.04 and only afterwords found out that /var directory gets wiped
[17:35] <DeonP> 12.04lte
[17:35] <Whitor> hi. I'm running 12.04 and I'm having a problem with unity. (I think) Where the menu bar is supposed to be is the drop shadow of the menu border... but the menu itself appears at the bottom of the screen. BUT, the buttons act like that are at the top of the screen?!?! is there any way to somehow reset this?
[17:36] <Umair> auronandace: ?
[17:36] <Whitor> Further... if I hover over the icons on the unity panel, the entire panel goes black
[17:37] <kostkon> Whitor, could you post a screenshot? it will be helpful for anyone who wishes to help you.
[17:37] <jsonperl> quick question. "ss -s" output for socket information: http://pastebin.com/4tbVzG9v what the heck is the asterisk line?
[17:38] <Whitor> kostkon, screenshots appear entirely black !
[17:38] <Whitor> I just tried
[17:38] <dgriffi> regarding https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+bug/1204990, am I going to have to rebuild rsyslog-relp if I want to get it installed?
[17:38] <kostkon> Whitor, hmm. with the screenshot utility?
[17:38] <calwig> where could someone inquire about recovering data on a miniSD chip?
[17:38] <Whitor> kostkon, yes, with prtsc button
[17:39] <Whitor> kostkon, it looks like compiz might not be running
[17:39] <wormwood> Greetings all, any netfilter / iptables gurus around?
[17:40] <kostkon> Whitor, try again without pressing prtscr, just run the screenshot utility (search for "screenshot" in the dash") and press the Take screenshot button
[17:42] <DeonP> can anyone tell me why a dist upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04 deletes the contents of /var directory i lost all my websites
[17:43] <napsc> wormwood:  explain what you're trying to accomplish, someone will answer if they can.  if not, you can try networking chat room
[17:45] <raedov> hello guys , is there Is there anyway to remember layout for each window here in Lubuntu , like "Keyboard Layout Handler" in pclinuxos lxde , pic for tool : http://i.imagebanana.com/img/u7e3d14q/Screenshotfrom20130725203312.png
[17:45] <shanen> Any ideas what would cause SSH connections from an external IP to work initially and then lock up with this message following shortly after? Write failed: Broken pipe
[17:46] <shanen> SSH connections from the internal network work fine
[17:46] <Artemis3> DeonP, i don't think you are supposed to upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04, you have to go to 12.10 first. Only lts to lts is supported besides regular (every 6 month) version.
[17:46] <holstein> shanen: maybe your isp blocks it
[17:46] <Whitor> kostkon, http://i.imgur.com/jN1PGN4.jpg  shows the menu issue...
[17:47] <DeonP> damn i wish i had a warning about /var folder being deleted i could have aborted
[17:47] <shanen> holstein: I'd expect it to not work at all if that was the case. It does connect initially and lets me execute commands for 1-10 seconds
[17:47] <holstein> shanen: i would try not having expectations, and check with the ISP
[17:47] <kostkon> Whiskey, that's interesting
[17:47] <kostkon> oops
[17:47] <RonniSkansing> Hi, i have downloaded the an ubuntu iso and want to make a bootable USB. I have done this a couple times before on Windows, Ubuntu and Mac. This time im having a problem. If i run usb-creator-gtk via. the gui, i get a crash report (sometimes), if i fire it from termnial -> http://pastebin.com/eD7a7eZP <- Im on Ubuntu 12.04
[17:47] <holstein> shanen: its also just one suggestion.. you can wait on another volunteer suggestion
[17:47] <shanen> holstein: We are on an unrestricted commercial account
[17:47] <Whitor> :)
[17:47] <DeonP> my fault i should have made a backup
[17:48] <kostkon> Whitor, that's interesting*
[17:48] <shanen> holstein: Yeah, I appreciate the idea
[17:48] <Whitor> kostkon, I couldn't get the unitu menu issue, since my mouse needs to be over the icons for that issue to be shown
[17:49] <kostkon> Whitor, have you by any chance enabled any extra compiz plugins?
[17:49] <Whitor> kostkon, nope
[17:49] <Artemis3> DeonP, incidentally, dist-upgrade is also not supported either, only use update manager or do-release-upgrade
[17:49] <kostkon> Whitor, the fast and easy solution would be to reset your unity
[17:49] <DeonP> i booted from dvd and selected upgrade
[17:50] <Whitor> kostkon, do you know an easy way to do this?
[17:50] <kostkon> Whitor, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[17:50] <DeonP> update manager showed 12.10 upgrade available, i took a shortcur now paying the price
[17:50] <kostkon> Whitor, ;)
[17:50] <Whitor> I am backed up just in case
[17:50] <kostkon> Whitor, sorry that's for 12.10+
[17:50] <kostkon> Whitor, are you on 12.04?
[17:50] <Artemis3> DeonP, yes, you have to upgrade to 12.10 first, can't take any shortcuts, only lts to lts is allowed (every 2 years).
[17:52] <Guest63432> Found a bug in the "stable" (but of course nothing's perfect) Libreoffice PPA. Unity quicklist shows label empty and not "New Document"
[17:52] <DeonP> Artemis3, yes i'm basically fooked
[17:52] <krz> set record      =       "imaps://imap.gmail.com/[Imap]/Sent"
[17:52] <krz> whops
[17:52] <DJones> Guest63432: You'll have to report that to the ppa maintainer
[17:52] <kostkon> Whitor, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html  you don't need to give the reset icons cmd, just the unity --reset one.
[17:52] <Guest63432> DJones: Thanks, but how do I reach him?
[17:52] <RonniSkansing> Hi, i have downloaded the an ubuntu iso and want to make a bootable USB. I have done this a couple times before on Windows, Ubuntu and Mac. This time im having a problem. If i run usb-creator-gtk via. the gui, i get a crash report (sometimes), if i fire it from termnial -> http://pastebin.com/eD7a7eZP <- Im on Ubuntu 13.04
[17:52] <Artemis3> DeonP, you might try your luck with data recovering apps
[17:53] <Whitor> kostkon, heh... that explains why it wasn't working!
[17:53] <DJones> Guest63432: It should tell you on the web page that you added the ppa from
[17:53] <DeonP> i have, no luck, said inodes available but did not recover
[17:53] <Artemis3> DeonP, hmm well, as they say, backup first...
[17:53] <kostkon> Whitor, better go into tty, press ctrl+alt+f6 for example, give unity-reset then ctrl+alt+f7 to come back
[17:53] <Guest63432> DJones: OK, so for https://launchpad.net/~ricotz since no email address is provided, the hunt begins. Have any idea where I should start?
[17:54] <kostkon> Whitor, unity --reset*
[17:54] <DeonP> noob error lol, i have 90% backed up, lost 10 days work
[17:54] <Artemis3> DeonP, just 10 days to recover is better than start from scratch :)
[17:54] <Guest63432> DJones: Never mind. Found out how.
[17:55] <Whitor> kostkon, the menu still appears at the bottom !
[17:55] <Artemis3> DeonP, also, consider sticking to LTS for production
[17:56] <DeonP> Artemis3, will do from now on, i had big problems on 12.04 networking. had to start network-manager manually al the time
[17:56] <DeonP> after one of the updates
[17:56] <Guest63432> DJones: Thanks.
[17:56] <DJones> Guest63432: You're welcome
[17:56] <kostkon> Whitor, damn
[17:57] <DeonP> one of the 12.04 updates messed up loads of folder privileges , was chaos
[17:57] <Whitor> kostkon, my sentiments exactly
[17:57] <Artemis3> DeonP, you could override network manager by populating /etc/network/interfaces, quite recommended for a server
[17:57] <kostkon> Whitor, try resetting compiz too. scroll down for the instruction on the page i gave you
[17:57] <Whitor> Is there any sort of system restore utility available for ubuntu ?
[17:57] <DeonP> i dont use it as a server just dev testing
[17:57] <kostkon> instructions*
[17:58] <Whitor> I hate to say it... but something like the windows system restore utility ?
[17:58] <sam113101> Guys, will ubuntu use Qt exclusively in the future?
[17:58] <pdkl> i just reinstalled ubuntu (very old) to a new version (13.04) .. why is syslog always empty?
[17:58] <checoimg> RonniSkansing : try the KDE Usb Creator
[17:58] <Artemis3> sam113101, no
[17:58] <RonniSkansing> Thanks checoimg, i will check it out now
[17:58] <sam113101> Artemis3: why not? they're using Qt and qml for their mobile stuff, might as well use only Qt, no?
[17:59] <Whitor> kostkon, will do, thanks
[17:59] <RonniSkansing> Thanks checoimg, that will fix it
[17:59] <DeonP> installer should warn which folders are going to be deleted and give the option to abort
[18:00] <Artemis3> someday when btrfs becomes widespread, we will probably have snapshots to go back to...
[18:01] <checoimg> RonniSkansing : I'm glad ot be of help. :)
[18:01] <TandyUK> help guys... just done a hard drive sawp and now grub cant get its config right
[18:01] <TandyUK> grub-install is creating grub.cfg with the line "root='(hd5,msdos2)'
[18:02] <TandyUK> which should be hd0,...
[18:02] <TandyUK> currently im having to manually edit the grub config at boot time
[18:02] <TandyUK> or i just get a black screen indefinitely
[18:03] <TandyUK> while i can fix it manually, i need to know where to change that so that the next kernel update doesnt leave the machine trying (and failing) to boot from the wrong disk
[18:03] <Artemis3> TandyUK, did you check /etc/default/grub ?
[18:04] <TandyUK> yup, no mention of that setting
[18:04] <TandyUK> unless theres other stuff thats not documentedi n there
[18:04] <Artemis3> TandyUK, perhaps its using UUID? (preferred)
[18:05] <Artemis3> TandyUK, oh yes, you can add more options there :)
[18:05] <TandyUK> ok hold on your missing the point just like #grub lmao
[18:05] <TandyUK>        set root='(hd5,msdos2)'
[18:05] <TandyUK>         search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 9d1716bc-b69d-4cc9-afb5-31cccf66e840
[18:05] <TandyUK>         linux   /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-43-generic root=UUID=9d1716bc-b69d-4cc9-afb5-31cccf66e840 ro   quiet splash $vt_handoff
[18:06] <TandyUK> ONLY the set root= ;line is wrong
[18:06] <TandyUK> which apparantly shouldnt matter, but without manually editing the entry at boot time, i cannot boot period
[18:06] <TandyUK> obviously that file is auto generated, so i need to know how to make it use hd0 instead of hd5
[18:07] <TandyUK> grub-mkdevicemap also gets it wrong, and having created my own, correct device.map, and specifying that to grub-install, it STILL gets it wrong
[18:08] <Artemis3> TandyUK, i suppose it might be a grub-install parameter, to pick the mbr or partition to install grub into?
[18:08] <TandyUK> that has no effect on it
[18:08] <TandyUK> its getting the order wrong
[18:09] <TandyUK> at boot time, hd0 is my sata 3 raid controller
[18:09] <TandyUK> but once booted, sdf is that disk
[18:09] <Rarrikins> TandyUK: Can you use partition UUIDs?
[18:10] <TandyUK> sd[a-e] are members of a mdadm raid array, so i really dont want to be messing with them at all
[18:10] <TandyUK> Rarrikins: that IS using uuids??
[18:11] <TandyUK> i guess grub is trying to look for hd5, partition2, which doesnt exist
[18:11] <TandyUK> and taking forever to give up
[18:11] <TandyUK> as the grub guys say "it shoudlnt matter if that line is wrong"
[18:11] <TandyUK> but when it is wrong, I cant boot, so go figure
[18:12] <TandyUK> im happy to manually fix grub.cfg
[18:12] <TandyUK> but that just makes me worry what will happen next time theres a kernel update and an auto update
[18:12] <Artemis3> TandyUK, there is probably a nice parameter you can add to default/grub for that
[18:12] <Joshun> hi
[18:12] <TandyUK> Artemis3: any clues where i might find this stuff documented then?
[18:13] <Joshun> is it possible to map alt gr to alt in ubuntu?
[18:13] <Joshun> this keyboard (http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/pc-accessories/keyboards/keyboards/logik-lk212r-wireless-keyboard-red-13828364-pdt.html) rather shockingly doesn't even have one! -_-
[18:14] <Joshun> I of course did not buy the keyboard in the first place
[18:14] <TandyUK> Joshun: take it back, demand a replacement on the grounds its not fit for purpose
[18:14] <xiudo> looks like the apple wifi keybaord clone
[18:14] <fanys> Hello everybody
[18:14] <xiudo> fanys: hello
[18:15] <checoimg> fanys : Hello
[18:15] <Joshun> TandyUK - yeah pretty dumb considering even how many windows apps need the alt key for shortcuts
[18:15] <fanys> can you tell me where I can translate the new shutdown dialog (that was introduced in Raring)?
[18:15] <fanys> in czech language it is still in English
[18:16] <QTPieMan> is it ok to manually download "gksudo" in 13.04?
[18:16] <Joshun> the keyboard could at least have some fn code to enable alt
[18:16] <Artemis3> TandyUK, https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#root
[18:16] <Pici> fanys: I know its a small channel, but #ubuntu-translators might be able to help you find that.
[18:16] <QTPieMan> why gksudo is removed in 13.04?
[18:16] <kostkon> !find gksudo raring
[18:17] <kostkon> !find gksu raring
[18:17] <QTPieMan> kostkon, i know that  -_-
[18:17] <TandyUK> Artemis3: i mean the setting to change it via /etc/default/grub
[18:17] <fanys> yeah, I know about it, but there are only 14 people, so I decided to try it here first, thanks anyway
[18:17] <kostkon> QTPieMan, it's in the repos. so just install it, why not
[18:18] <QTPieMan> kostkon, looks like i also have to install  libgksu2-0, libgksu2-dev
[18:19] <kostkon> QTPieMan, ok, I assume you have read this already → http://askubuntu.com/questions/284306/why-is-gksu-no-longer-installed-by-default-in-13-04/284717
[18:20] <Joshun> TandyUK - I have at last found a fix :) dpkg-reconfigure keyboatd-configuration, mapped altgr to alt
[18:20] <QTPieMan> kostkon, actually i have read this http://askubuntu.com/questions/290810/how-to-add-gksudo-or-what-to-use-instead-in-ubuntu-13-04
[18:21] <kostkon> QTPieMan, ok
[18:22] <QTPieMan> hmm
[18:23] <danlee> i found that the recent update of openjdk-6 has problem when using with Netbeans
[18:23] <PiffPaff> Hi, do you know when I will be able to mount a TCG OPAL / EDrive encrypted SSD under ubuntu? These drives come up more frequently like Crucials/Microns M500 and the chip in the SSD does the en/decryption. "New" is the standard these drives follow nowadays called TCG Opal.
[18:24] <QTPieMan> is ubuntu 13.10 really coming with chromium instead of firefox?
[18:24] <DJones> QTPieMan: Probably best asking in #ubuntu+1 where they discuss the testing
[18:24] <QTPieMan> DJones, ok
[18:25] <xiudo> Hello #ubuntu  Does the Ubuntu:Edge going to work with VerizonUSA's network?
[18:25] <DJones> !phone | xiudo
[18:26] <checoimg> fanys : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-cs
[18:29] <mbeierl> I have a 6gb laptop running 13.04.   proc/meminfo shows 5.8g total, 3.3g free, .14g cached.  Where is my other 2g being used?  What stat reports where that memory has gone?
[18:30] <Artemis3> not used, thats normal. start opening apps and it will get used.
[18:30] <kostkon> !ram | mbeierl
[18:31] <mbeierl> kostkon, already read. that.  The info there does not add up to what meminfo says.
[18:31] <martinrame> Does anyone installed ubuntu on an "IBM System x3400 M3" ??
[18:31] <mbeierl> kostkon, and if you read what I posted, I'm already taking the cache into account.
[18:32] <kostkon> mbeierl, right
[18:32] <wasanzy> hi
[18:32] <mbeierl> Artemis3, No.  It's not being reported as free.  The numbers are not adding up.
[18:32] <Artemis3> mbeierl, with the first number you should be fine, its seeing the whole thing, will use it when it needs
[18:32] <wasanzy> does ubuntu have openssl or something else?
[18:33] <Pici> mbeierl: Does your video card use shared memory?
[18:33] <rypervenche> wasanzy: openssl is installed, yes. What are you looking for?
[18:33] <mbeierl> Pici.  good question.  How do I tell that these days? :)
[18:33] <wasanzy> the devel version of openssl
[18:34] <Pici> mbeierl: There should be something about it in the BIOS, or perhaps on the manufacturer's website.
[18:35] <mbeierl> Pici, BIOS, no, not that I can find.  Would that get consumed out of the pool claimed as physical memory after the OS sees the total?  Would the nvidia kernel mod claim it?
[18:36] <miebster_atwork_> I have a VM and I'm trying to make it so within the VM I can mount/unmount without sodo, I've put this into my /etc/sudoers.d "vat vat-vb = NOPASSWD: /bin/mount, /bin/umount" but It still says I need root to mount?
[18:36] <wasanzy> the devel version of openssl
[18:36] <rypervenche> v libssl-dev | wasanzy
[18:36] <Pici> mbeierl: I believe it happens before the kernel starts, although I could be wrong
[18:36] <rypervenche> ,v libssl-dev | wasanzy
[18:37] <mbeierl> Ah.  I forgot - I've got a radeon on this machine.  The radeon driver is not really that large, so probably not reported there.  That is a good line of investigation though.
[18:39] <davidfetter_disq> hello
[18:40] <davidfetter_disq> i'm looking for a SQLite JDBC driver. is that packaged in any of the usual repos? ubuntu 12.04 lts, fwiw
[18:42] <wasanzy> am getting Error 404 when I run  apt-get install libssl-dev
[18:44] <trism> wasanzy: have you run: sudo apt-get update; recently? there may be a newer version superceding the version in your package list
[18:45] <fanys> can you give me an opinion about this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1203576 - it is in my head for really long time and I've finally posted it as a bug. If you are for fixing it, please add yourself to affect list
[18:46] <fanys> that is one of features that'll make Ubuntu easier to use for newbies
[18:46] <wasanzy> trism: I did even before running the install
[18:47] <wasanzy> and that also failed with the same error
[18:50] <guzzlefry> hey folks
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> fanys, My opinion is that wine is for drinking, in the nicest way possible. ;)
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> I just run W8 if I want a windows app
[18:50] <mafsi> wilee-nilee: thumbs up!
[18:50] <Ponch0> I forgot my login username on my dual boot, is there a way I can recover that, I'
[18:50] <fanys> :D, yeah, but in this case, it is far better imo than opening exe file in Nautilus by default
[18:51] <guzzlefry> I'm having some issues with mounting SFTP via GNOME3's Places menu.  The connection is prone to timing out, but I can't seem to get it to reset. It just errors out over and over.
[18:51] <Ponch0> I'm pretty sure I remember the password
[18:51] <trism> wasanzy: which ubuntu version is this?
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> fanys, Not sure why you are opening a .exe wine and play on linux seem to work fine.
[18:52] <ggherdov> Hello. I am burning a Ubuntu Raring ISO image (on ubuntu raring, lol), and I get asked the question: "d'you wanna create a disc from the content of the image OR with the image file inside? "
[18:52] <ggherdov> Let aside that the developer writing that text wasn't really insipired that day, but... what should I chose? My goal: to get a bootable CD, as 99.999% of the people getting asked that question I guess)
[18:52] <wasanzy> Ubuntu 10.10
[18:52] <Ponch0> Does anyone know if theres a way to recover my login username?
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> ggherdov, burn as an image no file
[18:52] <trism> wasanzy: that would be why, 10.10 is no longer supported
[18:52] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, Yes hold on
[18:53] <fanys> yes, but wine is the most generic way to open exe files
[18:53] <Ponch0> wilee-nilee: gracias
[18:53] <ggherdov> wilee-nilee: ok, the former then
[18:53] <fanys> many users around me(newbies, first time Ubuntu useres) are very confused when they see exe file opened in archive manager
[18:54] <Brigad> someones for help me to config vsftpd i try n try n try!!
[18:54] <wasanzy> ok
[18:54] <ggherdov> wilee-nilee: option (1): burn as file. option (2): burn contents.
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, This is not a recover but resetting for the password I believe it says setting a user as well, may not be exactly what you need. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[18:54] <fanys> *and I've commuted Nautilus with File-Roller in my message
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> ggherdov, ISO's burn as images
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, Here is another that seems closer. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/tag/recover-ubuntu-username-and-password
[18:56] <QTPieMan> !edge
[18:56] <Ponch0> wilee-nilee: thank you, you're an awesome person
[18:57] <sam113101> what's the process name of the dash?
[18:58] <iLogical> why did ubuntuforums.org use proprietary forum software in first place with so many FOSSes for that matter of high quality and even superior, it seems counter-intuitive to me since it's a open source distro to do such a thing, not mention the obvious security concerns of using proprietary software
[18:59] <iLogical> an*
[18:59] <iLogical> to*
[18:59] <sam113101> what's the process name of the dash?
[18:59] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, Heh, on a good day thanks. ;)
[19:00] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, App search and other options file access...etc
[19:00] <Terabyte> hi
[19:00] <Terabyte> is there a way to see all available versions of a package in apt-get?
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, Doh process name sorry.
[19:01] <Terabyte> say "apt-get install apachemq" but I want a specific version, what can I do to see it.
[19:01] <sam113101> wilee-nilee: is it an executable by itself or is it part of something bigger?
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, Basically it is the gnome 2 menu cluster all in one, sort of.
[19:02] <Artemis3> iLogical, tell them in #ubuntuforums :)
[19:02] <sam113101> wilee-nilee: but how do I go about debugging it?
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> iLogical, You don't have to use proprietary if you do not want to, honestly your opinion is only valid in your world.
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> even i it seems others agree, if you look closely the schema that leads us there in individual.
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> is*
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, What is the problem?
[19:04] <sam113101> wilee-nilee: this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1204589
[19:05] <sam113101> I believe it's only happening to me, though
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, Hmm, not sure I use the gnome-shell, I used unity for a long time but I turn off all that stuff, I will look on the web for de-bugging though
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, What release are you running?
[19:07] <sam113101> wilee-nilee: 13.04
[19:07] <sam113101> last version
[19:07] <sam113101> last/latest
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, You might try a reset of unity I see no debug, there may be one just not finding it. problem with unity is that it is a plugin in compiz running on top of gnome 3 so a reset at ties seems to be the answer for some things.
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> not sure if a reset of the de will change the dash but a good place to start probably
[19:12] <sam113101> well, I reinstalled ubuntu yesterday, the bug still happened before I reinstalled it, so I doubt resetting unity will fix it
[19:13] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, I had installs that needed a reset from minute one, doubting does not give you an answer
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> I doubt I will be a rocket scientist but one never knows ;)
[19:14] <sam113101> weird that you had to do that
[19:14] <sam113101> well, I will try
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, Just making a point resetting will not hurt anything.
[19:15] <sam113101> another question, where does the dash get its $PATH?
[19:15] <sam113101> I want to add $HOME/.bin to it
[19:16] <k-joseph> hi every one, i read about using a hotspot to share internet, i created one but did'nt succeed in sharing the internet, still i want to use the same thing to share files as an adoc does in windows, can some one point me to a good tutorial or direct me, i will be glad if helped
[19:16] <Ponch0> wilee-nilee: The first link work great: I went into recovery and since I remember my password and not my username, I typed in the password and then typed "ls /home" which gave me my user name :)
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> Ponch0, Cool, I wondered if actually recovering it was possible.
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> !hotspot
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> !info hotspot
[19:21] <Ponch0> yup so was I, I was hoping for the best since this is  dual boot and it's a pain reinstalling
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> oh well
[19:22] <mwmnj> Hi all, I am trying to run ubuntu 12.04 in virtualbox on mac os x
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> mwmnj, Why? ;)
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> mwmnj, Just ribbing you tell the problem.
[19:24] <mwmnj> wilee-nilee: Actually may have solved it, just coming in the irc room must have helped :p
[19:24] <mwmnj> I'll let you know
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> mwmnj, Cool, enjoy.
[19:25] <googlenohelp> Whenever I boot my laptop up I have to run: sudo modprobe -r b43 bcma; sudo modprobe b43.  in order to use wireless. Any way to automate this?
[19:28] <genii> ! boot | googlenohelp - put the commands in /etc/rc.local
[19:32] <pkkm> where can I find repos for Ubuntu 8.10? the official ones return 404 when I try to `apt-get update'.
[19:32] <xangua> !eol | pkkm
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> pkkm, 8.10 is end of life what is your need for it?
[19:33] <pkkm> I need Ubuntu from 6.06 to 8.10 for running legacy software (in a VM).
[19:34] <pkkm> aren't there any mirrors which haven't deleted the repos? maybe some archival site?
[19:34] <ratek__1> which legacy software :-/
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> pkkm, You will get no support in general here but. http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[19:35] <pkkm> ratek__1: VLM, a Lisp Machine emulator.
[19:35] <pkkm> wilee-nilee: ok, thanks.
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> pkkm, Hope that is enough, not sure what else there is.
[19:36] <googlenohelp> ubottu: even though I need root access to run modprobe?
[19:37] <Targeter> Hi, I currently have a 5.1 surround sound setup and was wondering what 5.1 cards out there are very linux friendly.
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | googlenohelp have you looked here
[19:37] <googlenohelp> wilee-nilee: yes
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> googlenohelp, Cool that is about my limit on broadcom, never have used it, there are probably other wiki's maybe associated with you actual computer.
[19:38] <pkkm> wilee-nilee: works well, thanks.
[19:38] <Ampelbein> googlenohelp: /etc/rc.local will be run as root so you don't need sudo when putting commands in there.
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> pkkm, Cool.
[19:39] <googlenohelp> wilee-nilee: Need to unset bcma and b43 mods then load b43 in order for wireless nic to be picked up. I can run just fine from terminal after boot, but I wanted to automate the running of the two commands with escalated privileges on boot
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> ah I see
[19:40] <CalvinnHobbes> I have a question about ssh keys: if I have multiple computers is it smarter to have a different key for each computer or to have one key that copy to each computer?
[19:41] <googlenohelp> Ampelbein: when I put `modprobe -r b43 bcma \n modprobe b43` in rc.local it doesn't bring up the interface but when I run those two in a shell it works
[19:41] <googlenohelp> CalvinnHobbes: just use one public rsa key
[19:42] <Ampelbein> googlenohelp: You have to put the commands before the "exit 0" line. Did you do that?
[19:42] <CalvinnHobbes> does the title at the end of the key do anything? I.e. ssh-rsa {long string of random} computer-name-or-something
[19:43] <googlenohelp> Ampelbein: yes.
[19:43] <Ampelbein> googlenohelp: Do you see in dmesg that the modules gets unloaded and reloaded? Is /etc/rc.local set +x?
[19:44] <googlenohelp> CalvinnHobbes: you shouldn't ever have to "read" your key. You can scp your key to the server into a file called temp or whatever you wanna call it. Then login to the server and run `cat temp >> .ssh/authorized_keys`
[19:45] <Ampelbein> CalvinnHobbes: or use ssh-copy-id to add your key to the remote host.
[19:46] <googlenohelp> Ampelbein: yeah, rc.local has the right permissions. And dmesg shows that it loaded the module correctly
[19:47] <dominic__> i click on the download for jolicloud install on the website then i dont have the programme to install it
[19:47] <tenguix> anybody know about a good java support channel
[19:47] <Pici> tenguix: ##java
[19:47] <tenguix> well, more like java guru-help
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> dominic__, Isn't jolicloud a ISO?
[19:48] <dominic__> i dont know
[19:48] <Pici> tenguix: assuming you mean programming, ##java (but you'll need to be registered/identified with freenode to join)
[19:48] <Ampelbein> googlenohelp: Then I don't know any further. In the future, if you have the chance: Avoid broadcom.
[19:48] <tenguix> Pici, its invite only. I need to register right
[19:48] <Pici> !register | tenguix yep
[19:48] <dominic__> which programme is good for iso
[19:49] <sam113101> dominic__: dd
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> dominic__, Two downloads a windows exe or ISO, if you are running windows you would want ##windows.
[19:49] <dominic__> im on ubuntu
[19:49] <om26er> how do you extract .eml ?
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> dominic__, An ISO can be put on a disc or usb, in a number of ways.
[19:50] <tenguix> cool, thanks guys
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> dominic__, You running a wubi, otherwise you would know about an ISO I would think.
[19:50] <dominic__> it seems just a file to install
[19:51] <wilee-nilee> dominic_, http://www.jolicloud.com/jolios/download choose the appropriate download.
[19:51] <jsl> dominic> Do you want to burn the iso to a disc?
[19:51] <dominic__> it just a upgrade for my ubuntu
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> dominic__, Not a real upgrade
[19:52] <skulltip> dominic__ the latest unetbootin you can select which distro, it will download from the approrpriate mirror and put iso on usb. very easy to use
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> dominic__, Joli is an OS you have to install it.
[19:52] <skulltip> then boot from USB as live demo or install
[19:53] <dominic__> http://www.jolicloud.com/jolios/download
[19:53] <dominic__> JoliDE in Ubuntu
[19:53] <dominic__> what is JoliDE in Ubuntu
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> dominic__, You seem quite confused nowhere does it say "JoliDE in Ubuntu" ubuntu and joli are separate operating systems.
[19:54] <xangua> 'JoliDE in Ubuntu' I don't see that specific option on that link dominic_ , but you can install joli as any other distro alongside ubuntu
[19:55] <wilee-nilee> dominic__, Joli is linux and it is a desktop, but not on top of the ubuntu base
[19:55] <skulltip> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/jolicloud-your-new-favourite-ubuntu-de   - seems like an overlay
[19:55] <Anaxandridas> So, thanks to the help of #ubuntu, yesterday I installed a linux OS for the first time on my computer. So today, I'd like for you guys to tell me some cool things that Ubuntu does that Windows does not, so I can go try out those things, and do cool stuff with my computer I've never previously been able to.
[19:55] <Anaxandridas> Any ideas?
[19:55] <dominic__> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/07/jolicloud-de-gets-updated
[19:56] <skulltip> if you are so inclined..   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jolicloud-team/ppa && sudo apt-get update      to me seems like it could be added headache
[19:57] <henkpoley> Anaxandridas: most of the "never previously been able to" on Linux has to do with being able to modify the source code. Are you a programmer ?
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> !ppa | dominic_
[19:58] <Anaxandridas> No, henkpoley, but I am a retired guy with tons of time on his hands. So I have no problem learning new stuff.
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> dominic_, That is from a PPA so not fully supported here, but you may get some help anyway.
[19:59] <Raziel2p> anyone know how to install the 'z' shell functionality which takes you to recently used directories?
[19:59] <Raziel2p> it's impossible to google
[19:59] <skulltip> Anaxandridas - what linux doesn't have to do is monthly defrags, run Norton or other antispyware..
[19:59] <henkpoley> Anaxandridas: open source is mostly about finding your itch (some kind of odd, buggy or missing behavior), and scratching it ;)
[19:59] <Pici> Raziel2p: you mean zsh?
[19:59] <Raziel2p> Pici, I don't think so
[19:59] <henkpoley> skulltip: you can run e4defrag now :P
[19:59] <skulltip> any benefit to it henkpoley
[20:00] <Raziel2p> like I said it's impossible to google 'z' so I don't really know what it is apart from what I've seen in screencasts
[20:00] <Targeter> Does anyone know of any Linux friendly 5.1 sounds cards? Currently using an old Creative X-Fi
[20:00] <Pici> Raziel2p: What functionality does it have?
[20:00] <dominic__> i did the ppa
[20:00] <Raziel2p> Pici, it lets you easily switch to recently visited directories
[20:00] <Raziel2p> as far as I can tell
[20:00] <sirspazzolot> in a google result I found a forums result that looks like it will REALLY help my problem. unfortunately forums redirect to that alert page. please tell me there's some mirror or alternate url I can access to view this topic