[01:27] <didrocks> morning
[01:27] <Laney> 04/08 02:27:25 <didrocks> morning
[01:27] <Laney> !!!
[01:28] <Laney> even pre-pitti ;-)
[01:28] <didrocks> Laney: waow, you awake as well?
[01:28] <didrocks> \o/
[01:28] <didrocks> this pitti guy… slacker :p
[01:56] <duflu> didrocks: Welcome to the eastern hemisphere... ?!
[01:56] <didrocks> duflu: thanks :)
[01:56] <didrocks> some part of the desktop team are in beijing
[01:57] <duflu> didrocks: Oh. My joke is no longer a joke. But welcome nonetheless
[01:57] <didrocks> ;)
[02:08] <RAOF> Hello :)
[02:08] <Laney> hey RAOF!
[02:08] <RAOF> Laney: Oh, you're in the Eastern hemisphere too?
[02:08] <didrocks> hey RAOF!
[02:09] <Laney> Yep, been enjoying the heat ...
[02:09] <RAOF> Yeah, not hot here :)
[02:10] <Laney> well, more the humidity
[02:10] <RAOF> Although it has decided to stop snowing.
[02:10] <Laney> 3 showers a day isn't something I've ever had to do before. :P
[02:10] <Laney> ha, nice
[02:15] <RAOF> Ah, humidity :P
[02:25]  * TheMuso waves to European desktopers here in the east. :)
[02:26] <Laney> ni hao TheMuso
[03:35] <Laney> hey seb128!
[03:35] <seb128> hey Laney
[03:35] <seb128> thanks
[03:37] <seb128> Laney, the notification silo failed build, so it's not going to land yet
[03:38] <Laney> okay, just suggesting a comment otherwise it might get published
[03:38] <Laney> i'm not sure when the approved check is done
[03:56] <seb128> right, doing that
[04:25] <seb128> bregma_, Saviq: hey, logging out from unity8 (desktop mir session) doesn't seem to work anymore, is that a known issue?
[04:25] <seb128> it just "hangs" on the logout dialog for me
[04:31] <didrocks> willcooke: http://xkcd.com/1367/
[04:38] <willcooke> Laney, FJKong, seb128 , didrocks happyaron - you guys want to get some lunch?
[04:54] <pitti> mitya57: yes, I can rebuild compiz, I was just waiting for metacity to get out of NEW
[05:23] <mitya57> pitti: thanks
[06:50] <pitti> mitya57: metacity went into utopic now
[08:39] <darkxst> pitti, hey
[08:40] <darkxst> so I have 214 booting gdm/gnome-shell with upstart  in a VM
[08:40] <darkxst> but its still failing on my real hardware
[08:44] <darkxst> (systemd boot works fine though, though I suppose its logind related)
[08:51] <pitti> darkxst: failing how?
[08:52] <darkxst> pitti, no user list when gdm loads
[09:32] <Laney> GunnarHj: yo, I don't understand the problem in the bug you subscribed me to
[09:32] <Laney> didn't we explicitly seed fonds-droid recently?
[09:32] <GunnarHj> Hi Laney!
[09:32] <Laney> hey hey
[09:35] <Laney> I think you should join the fonts task force and do such changes directly in Debian btw :-)
[09:35] <GunnarHj> Yes, we did. The problem is not the seed, but some confusion with the fontconfig stuff.
[09:36] <GunnarHj> Right, I agree it should be made in Debian at first hand.
[09:37] <GunnarHj> Laney: But there is an urgent problem to take care of which affects trusty.
[09:37] <Laney> https://alioth.debian.org/project/request.php?group_id=30917 click moi
[09:38] <didrocks> pitti: hey! ok, so it seems I'm at the adt stage, not really sure what the qemu error I'm getting is making sense to me (even if I'm only at the stage of having offline tests running in adt first)
[09:38] <GunnarHj> Laney: I have thought some more about it, and was just about to propose a simpler solution: Dropping a .conf file in fonts-droid and revert the latest language-selector change.
[09:39]  * didrocks is even unsure if the failure is at the end of adt tests or during them
[09:39] <pitti> didrocks: salut! what's teh qemu error?
[09:39] <didrocks> pitti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7950457/
[09:39] <didrocks> seems like the pipe is broken
[09:39] <didrocks> (the debug infos are from my tests themselves)
[09:40] <didrocks> I run my tests like that: adt-run -B ubuntu-developer-tools-center_0.0.1~trusty1_all.deb ubuntu-developer-tools-center_0.0.1~trusty1.dsc --- qemu ~/adt-utopic-amd64-cloud.img
[09:40] <didrocks> (trusty binaries don't have any difference with the utopic one, utopic have the depends though)
[09:41] <pitti> didrocks: what are you cat'ing to?
[09:41] <didrocks> pitti: I'm not really cat'ing anything in those tests AFAIK
[09:41] <didrocks> some are subprocessing, but clearly not those
[09:42] <GunnarHj> Laney: Was that alioth.debian.org link intended for me? I don't have an account.
[09:42] <Laney> yep
[09:42] <Laney> it's how you join packaging teams in debian
[09:43] <GunnarHj> Laney: I see. I'll create an account. But first we need to fix the open trusty issues.
[09:43] <Laney> It needs to be fixed in Utopic first in any cae
[09:44] <GunnarHj> Laney: I know. I'll make a couple of MPs and get back on the topic.
[09:44] <Laney> I need to read up on fontconfig again
[09:44] <Laney> the problem is that the main font is selected instead of the fallback?
[09:45] <GunnarHj> Laney: Yes. I made a change right before the release of 14.04.1, but it seems not to be sufficient.
[09:48] <GunnarHj> Laney: Now I think the best solution is to simply drop 65-droid-sans-fonts.conf.
[09:49] <GunnarHj> Laney: That file seems to have created various confusing issues.
[09:54] <GunnarHj> Laney: bbl
[10:01] <didrocks> pitti: I wonder if this signal isn't even sent before the tests are run (at the end of dependency installation)
[10:01] <didrocks> and then, picked up in the end
[10:01]  * didrocks sees:
[10:01] <didrocks> adt-run: & dsc1t-all:   literal dependency python3-pexpect
[10:01] <didrocks> qemu: terminating on signal 15 from pid 1883
[10:02] <didrocks> (this is before adt-run: $ ftparchive: sh -ec <SCRIPT> x /tmp/tmpBxCsWN/binaries /home/didrocks/.autopkgtest/gpg
[10:04]  * didrocks is a little bit stucked, seems that qemu keeps doing that
[10:04]  * didrocks pownders uploading without adt tests enabled first
[10:04] <didrocks> (I'll run all other tests daily in a vm anyway)
[10:05] <didrocks> yeah, I even get this time: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7950641/
[10:05] <didrocks> pitti: already seen that? (if around? maybe lunch time for you)
[10:06] <pitti> didrocks: around, but knee-deep in debugging
[10:06] <didrocks> ok, will be another day I guess then :p
[10:06] <pitti> didrocks: qemu terminating usually happens between tests
[10:06] <pitti> didrocks: or after a build and before starting the test
[10:06] <didrocks> yeah, I'm getting that reliably… that's weird)
[10:07] <pitti> didrocks: so these messages are quite normal
[10:07] <didrocks> pitti: not the last one though?
[10:07] <pitti> didrocks: probably best if you could put your pacakge somewhere, and I run the tests locally?
[10:07] <didrocks> pitti: sure, one sec
[10:07] <pitti> or perhaps pastebin the full output with -d
[10:07] <pitti> didrocks: ^
[10:08] <didrocks> let me upload to the ppa, with the timezone difference, it's probably the best
[10:12] <Laney> blerg
[10:13] <Laney> fontconfig makes my head hurt
[10:13] <didrocks> pitti: ok, it's built on utopic: https://launchpad.net/~didrocks/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntu-developer-tools-center. It just needs to be published. The dependencies are available in utopic since last Friday.
[10:20] <didrocks> pitti: ok, if you don't have time today, no worry, at worst, I disable the adt tests for now to push it to the archive
[10:21] <pitti> didrocks: they won't block promotion
[10:21] <pitti> didrocks: they will be in status "always failed"
[10:21] <didrocks> pitti: oh? because they never "passed"
[10:21] <didrocks> ok
[10:21] <didrocks> I would have loved to enable all tests first
[10:21] <pitti> didrocks: that was changed around trusty release
[10:21] <didrocks> you know, the one with network connection and so on…
[10:21] <pitti> didrocks: now only "regression" blocks, i. e. when it succeeded at least once
[10:22] <didrocks> ok
[10:22] <didrocks> so I can push them broken :)
[10:22] <pitti> right
[10:22] <didrocks> let's see anyway
[10:22] <didrocks> thanks a lot pitti, let's check that later!
[10:22]  * didrocks waves good evening and good bye
[11:00] <mhr3> pitti, any idea why there's no libdbus-cpp4-dbgsym for armhf? http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/universe/d/dbus-cpp/
[11:00] <mhr3> or any other archs for that matter
[11:01] <mhr3> besides ppc64
[11:02] <mhr3> oh it's in main now
[11:02] <mhr3> nvm
[11:05] <pitti> mhr3: :)
[11:28] <GunnarHj> Laney: Ok, I made the MPs, and asked you to review them. Easier to be more specific then.


[01:12] <Cheesehead> h00k: So sorry about the dog...
[01:12] <h00k> Cheesehead: thanks :/
[01:13] <Cheesehead> How long had the dog been in the family?
[01:14] <h00k> Cheesehead: the dog is 4, and it's at a place Brittany and I are housesitting for a year
[01:14] <Cheesehead> Ah, so it adopted the two of you?
[01:15] <h00k> so it's not _our_ dog, but it is under our care
[01:15] <h00k> We believe she had a heart attack
[01:16] <h00k> Cheesehead: sorta, yeah. We have 5 dogs at our place.
[01:17] <Cheesehead> Everything about that seems hard - you feel like it shouldn't affect you, but a few months is plenty of time to bond into a pack. Telling the owners. Ugh - the logistics of opening up the frozen ground.
[01:22] <h00k> Well, actually, one of the dogs is 15, so we had a hole pre-pared.
[01:22] <h00k> Unfortunately, we had to put the 4 year old in it.
[01:22] <h00k> We should still have room for Roy, if he passes
[01:22]  * Cheesehead laughs
[01:22] <Cheesehead> Ah, I enjoy graveyard humor, even the unintentional
[01:23] <h00k> prepared, I don't know where the hyphen came from, and paired was unintentional :)
[01:26] <h00k> but it was quite the surprise.
[01:26] <h00k> :/
[01:26] <h00k> to find her
[01:28] <Cheesehead> A bit stressful, I would imagine!
[02:52] <h00k> Not too cool.
[02:52] <h00k> No signs/symptoms beforehand


[01:17] <nhaines> Meeting tonight!
[01:18] <nhaines> elky: this means you.
[01:24] <pleia2> o/
[01:34]  * ianorlyn is here as well
[01:46] <nhaines> I'm just sitting down with foods.  <3
[01:56] <Roguehorse> Meeting tonight right?
[01:56] <ianorlyn> yes
[01:56] <Roguehorse> =)
[02:00] <Roguehorse> Hmm 7pm...guess it's just the two of us.
[02:00] <nhaines> #startmeeting
[02:00] <darthrobot> Meeting started Mon Jun  1 02:00:45 2015 UTC.  The chair is nhaines. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[02:00] <nhaines> Welcome everyone!  It's meeting time!
[02:01] <nhaines> Tonight's agenda is available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/15May31
[02:01] <darthrobot> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/15May31 - Ubuntu Wiki]
[02:01] <nhaines> Before we bign, does anybody have any anouncements or events?
[02:02] <nhaines> begin*
[02:02]  * ianorlyn does not
[02:02]  * Roguehorse nope
[02:03] <pleia2> ah, looks like the next SF Ubuntu Hour will land before our next meeting
[02:03] <pleia2> but I haven't scheduled it yet, should be on June 10th though
[02:05] <nhaines> pleia2: syncing up again?  :)
[02:05] <pleia2> oh, also worth mentioning that EBLUG has had meetings to chat about some of the work Partimus has been up to lately for schools
[02:06] <Roguehorse> pleia2: ty
[02:06] <pleia2> there will be another one in June 17th (EBLUG is in Fremont)
[02:06] <pleia2> ah yes, it's Roguehorse's LUG!
[02:06] <pleia2> :)
[02:06] <pleia2> I think that's all I've got for now
[02:07] <Roguehorse> Yes, I think it should be fun!
[02:07] <Roguehorse> =)
[02:07] <nhaines> Awesome.  :)
[02:07] <nhaines> Okay, the first item in our agenda.
[02:07] <nhaines> #topic Review last year's meeting agenda activity.
[02:08] <nhaines> elky was researching the agenda and meeting activity for last year and had prepared a report for us.
[02:09] <nhaines> elky: are you around to present the data to us?
[02:12] <nhaines> Okay, looks like she was busy tonight.
[02:12] <nhaines> Let's defer this to the mailing list, then.
[02:12] <ianorlyn> nhaines +1
[02:12] <Roguehorse> nhaines: yep
[02:13] <nhaines> We're looking at how often we are meeting versus how often we have actionable topics on the agenda.
[02:14] <nhaines> That'll let us decide whether we should change our LoCo online meeting interval.
[02:14] <nhaines> Okay, so wrapping up, that's all we had on the agenda this meeting.
[02:14] <nhaines> Any last comments before we go?
[02:15] <Roguehorse> every two weeks seems very rational
[02:16] <nhaines> Yes, but there's almost never anything to discuss.
[02:17] <Roguehorse> well, then we make some. =)
[02:17] <nhaines> That
[02:17] <nhaines> That's the spirit!  :)
[02:17] <Roguehorse> LOL!
[02:17] <nhaines> Okay, thanks for coming everyone.
[02:17] <toddcnb> any new events?
[02:17] <nhaines> Next meeting's on June 7th!
[02:18] <nhaines> toddcnb: just the ones mentioned at the top of the hour.
[02:18] <nhaines> #endmeeting
[02:18] <darthrobot> Meeting ended Mon Jun  1 02:18:19 2015 UTC.
[02:18] <darthrobot> Minutes:        http://ihas.5cat.com/~darthrobot/ubuntu-us-ca/2015/ubuntu-us-ca.2015-06-01-02.00.moin.txt
[02:19] <Roguehorse> wow! that was fast
[02:19] <nhaines> About average for meetings with no agenda items.  :)
[02:19] <Roguehorse> how often have they been like that?
[02:20] <DonkeyHotei> Pretty often recently
[02:20] <DonkeyHotei> Most in fact
[02:20] <Roguehorse> ah man
[02:20] <nhaines> Yeah.  I'd rather go to monthly meetings in that case.
[02:21] <nhaines> But we'll see how it goes.
[02:21] <Roguehorse> ???
[02:21] <Roguehorse> I understand the reasoning but I'd rather focus on getting agenda items on the board than cut everything back
[02:22] <Roguehorse> of course I'm one to talk having missed like 8 months or more of meetings
[02:22] <nhaines> If nothing's happening, nothing's happening.
[02:23] <Roguehorse> dude, something is always happening
[02:24] <nhaines> Other than the Ubuntu Hours, that doesn't appear to be true.
[02:24] <Roguehorse> you're telling me that all these people logged into this channel right now are doing nothing involved with Ubuntu?
[02:24] <nhaines> Tht's what they're saying, yes.
[02:24] <Roguehorse> ughh
[02:24] <pleia2> june 7th is in one week, did I miss something? :)
[02:24] <nhaines> And I would love to hear differently from them.  :)
[02:24] <nhaines> pleia2: oh no.  :)
[02:25] <nhaines> Well, I'll fix it in post.  ;)
[02:25] <Roguehorse> Ubuntu Hour doesn't carry over into here?
[02:28] <nhaines> They do, but the ML is better for non-actionable announcements.
[02:30] <Roguehorse> Ok, let me dig around and see what I can do
[02:32] <Roguehorse> nhaines: Are you the point of contact these days?
[02:38] <DonkeyHotei> The LoCo has 3 officers
[02:42] <Roguehorse> where do I find that data?
[02:43] <DonkeyHotei> The wiki
[02:49] <Roguehorse> that's kind of generic, can you be a bit more specific?
[02:49] <ianorlyn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/
[02:49] <darthrobot> Title: [CaliforniaTeam - Ubuntu Wiki]
[02:50] <DonkeyHotei> I could if i were connected from my computer instead of using split screen on my phone showing irc and skype together
[02:52] <Roguehorse> LOL! no worries
[02:52] <Roguehorse> I'm looking at admins:  http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california/
[02:52] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu California | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]
[03:21] <elky> nhaines: d'oh, chaotic weekend, forgot it was sunday
[04:43] <Roguehorse> ha! been there, done that
[05:34] <nhaines> Roguehorse: I'm as good a  point of contact as any.
[19:52] <Roguehorse> nhaines: okey-dokey
[21:18] <nhaines> Roguehorse: also glad you could make it yesterday!