[13:07] <usr13> viic_: OK. Well that is the one and only name I would NOT use.
[13:07] <viic_> is this issue somehow related to my problem? :)
[13:07] <viic_> with ssh-*
[13:07] <usr13> viic_: For rather obvious reasons:  It is *very* confusing.
[13:08] <viic_> root has root priviledges
[13:08] <viic_> as I said uid=0
[13:08] <usr13> viic_: admin priviledges
[13:08] <dorkusmaximus> will ubuntu benefit much if i upgrade from 4gb to 8gb?
[13:08] <viic_> but how is this related to my issue?
[13:08] <ikonia> dorkusmaximus: depends what you are doing
[13:08] <usr13> viic_: Look at the first line of /etc/group
[13:09] <kish> HI!
[13:09] <usr13> viic_: All I am saying is that "root" is not a good name for a user.
[13:09] <kish> How do I list what files have been installed when i ran apt-get install <file>
[13:09] <kish> I know I can run a find that lists all the new programs
[13:09] <kish> but I don't know if tht is optimal
[13:09] <viic_> usr13: so this talk was all about root-issue, and it's not related to my main problem with ssh-*? :)
[13:10] <usr13> viic_: Correct
[13:10] <viic_> thanks for wasting my time on offtopic then :)
[13:10] <viic_> anyone else could help me then?
[13:10] <BluesKaj_> 'Morning all
[13:10] <usr13> viic_: Oh, so you don't care about anyone else's time?
[13:10] <viic_> what are /tmpssh-* and /tmp/pulse-*  files?
[13:10] <test__> hi
[13:10] <viic_> user1: nope, 'cos it was your choice to offtopic me :)
[13:11] <dorkusmaximus> ikonia: usullay not much, although sometimes i run a virtual machine or two. ive been giving the virtual machines 768mb or 1.5gb of ram, depending. but i could give them more if i upgrade to 8
[13:11] <test__> i am trying to configure VPN connection in ubuntu 14.04
[13:11] <usr13> viic_: Sure is.  Good luck getting help from *anyone*.
[13:11] <ikonia> dorkusmaximus: always better to have more, but you won't notice any "response" difference
[13:11] <test__> ipvanish
[13:11] <test__> but it is hell slow
[13:11] <ikonia> viic_: man ssh-agent
[13:12] <test__> is it normal ?
[13:12] <dorkusmaximus> ikonia: oh...well that sux
[13:12] <viic_> ikonia: thank you :). So as I understand, ssh-agent will runs always when I login via gui?
[13:13] <ikonia> the agent runs as a process, but each user has a session
[13:13] <viic_> it's related to my login to the system, and it has nothing to my remote connections with ssh?
[13:13] <k1l_> dorkusmaximus: can you pastebin a "free -m" ?
[13:14] <dorkusmaximus> ok one sec
[13:14] <k1l_> dorkusmaximus: but more ram only makes advanteages if you really use ram heavy applications. a general desktop should work fine with way under 4GB. most ram is used for buffers and cache there
[13:15] <d0rkusmaximus> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/YAzUxwm2
[13:15] <viic_> ikonia: I mean, that ssh-agent is not related to "ssh"? When I connect to remore machine via ssh (ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-i key) then ssh-agent has nothing to do with that connection, right? All it takes care is about login/logout to my local machine?
[13:15] <ikonia> viic_: it manages the auth of that connection
[13:15] <ikonia> viic_: again "man ssh-agent"
[13:16] <k1l_> d0rkusmaximus: see. you have 3.1GB free ram right now. 1.1GB are used for buffers and cache.
[13:16] <mjayk> is there a gnome ubuntu channel
[13:17] <k1l_> well no, 1.1GB are not even used anyway. (thats what i wanted to say)
[13:17] <viic_> "Through use of      environment variables the agent can be located and automatically used for      authentication when logging in to other machines using ssh"  - ok, got it now
[13:17] <viic_> ikonia: but why after reboot i still have more than one ssh-* in /tmp? Shoudn't be these files removed
[13:17] <ikonia> depends, on many things
[13:17] <d0rkusmaximus> k1l_, this is with virtual machines open: http://pastebin.com/sQrgBiQ7
[13:17] <ikonia> viic_: what's the actual problem ?
[13:19] <viic_> ikonia: I have no ssh connections to remote machine. I'm after reboot. I see 3 directories ssh-* in my /tmp. Shoudn't I have only one? The rest should be removed after reboot?
[13:19] <ikonia> viic_: depends on what those connections are to, from,
[13:19] <ikonia> viic_: depends how your ssh agent is configured
[13:19] <k1l_> d0rkusmaximus: see, still 0.9GB free :) so you could give your vboxes more ram anyway if needed. "more ram is always better" but not really needed. if you want to increase the ram usage on vbox then it would make sense.
[13:19] <ikonia> viic_: I would not waste time worrying about this
[13:21] <viic_> ikonia: are these files in ssh-* contain any secret information? Just wondering, what's the potential risk, if someone manage to steal ssh-* content
[13:21] <ikonia> viic_: no they are not
[13:21] <ikonia> they are basically socket files
[13:21] <dorkusmaximus> k1l_: ok. it seems to still run smooth with 2 VM's open. bogs down with 3 open, but then i dont really have any reason to have 3 open at once.
[13:22] <viic_> ikonia: and one more question, I've asked before. There are also pulse-* files in /tmp. WHat are these files?
[13:22] <ikonia> same thing, pulse audio
[13:22] <viic_> what to "man" to read more about it?
[13:23] <ikonia> read about pulse audio
[13:24] <viic_> ikonia: ok, thank you a lot :)
[13:25] <dorkusmaximus> damn, i shouldnt have opened 3 vm's. i cant hardly move the mouse pointer on the linux box anymore
[13:26] <dorkusmaximus> i think im gonna have to hard power off
[13:27] <monika_> kh
[13:28] <userubuntu> my screen autimatically turns of while watching youtube i have power managamenet all disabled but this happens any idea? I am using xubuntu 14.04. Thanks
[13:29] <compdoc> userubuntu, maybe your vid card is overheating. does it have a fan? is it clogged with dust?
[13:29] <userubuntu> yeah this happens only when watching youtube no problme  on vlc and all
[13:29] <dorkusmaximus> check your settings under brightness and lock tab?
[13:31] <userubuntu> yup not working :(
[13:32] <dorkusmaximus> you got some legacy screensaver program running? sometimes programs like vlc have a setting to ignore the screensaver, whereas youtube wont
[13:32] <userubuntu> nope i havnt have anything running except the screensaver service from xubuntu
[13:36] <belgianguy> userubuntu: both in Flash and HTML5 ?
[13:36] <userubuntu> no idea abt html5 but flash the monitor dims
[13:37] <belgianguy> Flash here is able to pass by the 'screensaver', eg the screen locks but the movie keeps playing, until the end, and then it's stuck there
[13:37] <userubuntu> yeah thats the thing movie plays but screen dims
[13:37] <userubuntu> we could hear sound..screen dosnt get locked
[13:38] <belgianguy> userubuntu: IIRC you can force it into HTML5, not that it solves your issue, but it would point to Flash as being the culprit
[13:39] <userubuntu> i triend installing caffein as listed here but the programme doesnt exucet http://askubuntu.com/questions/171143/how-to-prevent-my-screen-from-either-dimming-or-the-screen-lock-starting-when-wa
[13:41] <belgianguy> userubuntu: yeah I have it installed as well, but it doesn't help, or isn't able to stop the screen from dimming
[13:41] <userubuntu> i see..so i guess its a known bug?
[13:50] <softballs> anyone that could help me with gdb/valgrind?
[13:55] <dorkusmaximus> hmm
[13:55] <dorkusmaximus> damnit
[13:55] <dorkusmaximus> system monitor says "swap not available"
[13:55] <dorkusmaximus> i have a swap partition
[13:56] <dorkusmaximus> cat /etc/fstab
[13:56] <k1l_> can you pastebin "mount" and "cat /etc/fstab" and "sudo fdisk -l" (small L at the end)
[13:56] <d0rkusmaximus> k
[13:56] <d0rkusmaximus> one sec
[13:57] <wgetME> hi, We want to buy two new PC for Office use, printing/scanning/word/excel/web, we want to know what is the potential of Ubuntu 14.04 in our use case also what kinda hardware would be best for a 5 yrs of use from now?
[13:58] <d0rkusmaximus> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/3N1vNYgR
[13:58] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, LTS has 5 years of support so 14.04 >> 16.04
[13:58] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, word?  excel?  on linux?  no: libreoffice, openoffice or kinsoft WPS
[13:59] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: LibreOffice is most loved by the users of my office too, so that would be fine, Is Flash supported ?
[13:59] <wgetME> as we might need flash for various sites as of now
[13:59] <cfhowlett_> !flash | wgetME,
[14:00] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: is Flash outdated on Linux ?
[14:00] <k1l_> d0rkusmaximus: ah its a gpt hdd. so please use gdisk instead of fdisk
[14:00] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, no, flash is doable
[14:00] <d0rkusmaximus> k1l_, and here is mount: http://pastebin.com/aesi6eHM
[14:01] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: ok, do we need to install Antivirus and internet security ?
[14:01] <cfhowlett_> !virus
[14:01] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: ok I like your way to explaining things with links and all
[14:01] <wgetME> way of*
[14:01] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: Paid/Commercial Support ?
[14:01] <d0rkusmaximus> k1l_, if i try sudo gdisk -l, it gives me this: Problem opening -l for reading! Error is 2.
[14:01] <wgetME> like a number to dial ?
[14:02] <cfhowlett_> wgetME fwiw: there is a list of compatible and OEM hardware.  paid support is available from canonical.
[14:03] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: ok, thanks for information, are scanners/printer supported by Ubuntu ?
[14:03] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, check it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[14:03] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: ok
[14:04] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, more updated info:  http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[14:04] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: one more question, if I am planning to buy stuff under a 5 yr hardware warranty program, should I go with i5 4th gen 3.3 Ghz or i3-4130 is just fine ?
[14:05] <k1l_> d0rkusmaximus: sgdisk -p
[14:05] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, my opinion: lots of memory, i7 chipset
[14:05] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: for office use ?
[14:05] <OerHeks> i5 is a beast too
[14:05] <wgetME> i5 3.3 ghz quad core
[14:05] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, consider a custom build, too.
[14:05] <wgetME> or i3 3.4 ghz dual core
[14:05] <wgetME> are the option we have
[14:05] <cfhowlett_> i3 is still being made???  :)
[14:06] <wgetME> ya
[14:06] <wgetME> i3-4130 is a powerful processor
[14:06] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, unless you are doing graphics type stuff ... sounds like you've got a plan
[14:06] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: seriously i7?
[14:06] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: we might do basic picture editing
[14:07] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: is Autodesk supported ?
[14:07] <wgetME> dwg viewer
[14:07] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, ignore that.  I forgot not everyone runs my use case.  speaking of GPU: intel graphics or nvidia.  avoid amd for now.
[14:07] <dorkusmaximus> k1l_: there is no output for sgdisk -p or sudo sgdisk -p. it just gives me the command line again.
[14:07] <k1l_> i hate gpt
[14:07] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, autodesk ... that's a pretty special use and isn't known for great linux support ... but let me look again
[14:08] <dorkusmaximus> sudo swapon -s doesnt show anything. but i definitely have a swap partition
[14:08] <dorkusmaximus> ubuntu just isnt using it
[14:08] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: ok, isn't i3-4130 with 8gig of RAM and 7200rpm HDD enough for 5 yrs of decent performance ?
[14:08] <wgetME> with Ubuntu
[14:09] <k1l_> dorkusmaximus: see in whatever program can list gpt stuff if its sda6 still a swap and if the blkid is matching
[14:10] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, I would guess so, but the critical issue is going to be needs not seeing a lot of active autodesk users mentioning linux.  I suppose dual boot is an option?
[14:10] <dimas_> hi
[14:10] <dorkusmaximus> k1l_: ok, i used sudo gdisk and then p to print. /dev/sda6 is 4gb of swap space
[14:10] <nedal> Hi, I m new on linux. I was using windows and I really love the linux word. the thing that I cant use to is those commands, should I know them all? Besides, why working as root is dangerous ?
[14:11] <k1l_> dorkusmaximus: sudo blkid and see if the uuid is mtching the one in fstab
[14:11] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: no only Ubuntu
[14:11] <wgetME> no Windows licenses at all
[14:12] <wgetME> we want to switch to GNU/Linux fully
[14:12] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, there are autodesk FOSS alternatives but if you need autodesk specifically, linux doesnt seem to offer much support
[14:12] <d0rkusmaximus> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/7rHNzyk3
[14:12] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, nice.  I'm certain there's a a channel/resource/history for that but I'm not up on the subject.
[14:12] <EriC^^> nedal: no you don't need to know all the commands, but the more you know the easier doing tasks will be and you'll be able to do more stuff, just learn as you go, about root it's dangerous as any mistake in a command could damage your system.
[14:13] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, see linuxCAD
[14:13] <k1l_> d0rkusmaximus: blkid doesnt even list swap?
[14:13] <dorkusmaximus> nope, no /dev/sda6 output from blkid
[14:13] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: ok I would use it, so i3-4130 enough ? or should buy i5 ?
[14:14] <k1l_> d0rkusmaximus: is it a swap format at all?
[14:14] <dorkusmaximus> ya, the gdisk output is above that. it shows code 8200 which is swap
[14:14] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, ram.  Lots and lots of ram.  especially for graphics ...
[14:15] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: 8 GB is fine ?
[14:16] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, fire up your software center and search for CAD.  I'd say 8 gb is the MINIMUM.  Test the rendering with Inkscape scenes and you'll see what I mean.
[14:16] <k1l_> dorkusmaximus: i dont know. i hate gpt stuff and have no experience with that. you could do a sudo mount -a and see the error. or look into dmesg what is says for swap.
[14:16] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, RAM and gpu memory are the key considerations I would say.
[14:16] <frecel> does anyone know what package is the command apt from? I don't mean apt-get apt-cache etc. I mean the new apt command that allows to do sudo apt install [package] instead of sudo apt-get install [package]
[14:17] <nedal> EriC^^: I'm using Ubuntu, but I heard that there is other distributions more interesting . is it true? knowing that I'm just an amateur but also a network engineering student
[14:17] <dorkusmaximus> k1l_: ok, thanks. ill see what i can figure out. i just started using gpt this past week.
[14:17] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: I would go with i5 then
[14:17] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, actually there are a couple of design studios I can point you towards ... wait 1
[14:17] <EriC^^> !info apt | frecel
[14:19] <k1l_> dorkusmaximus: maybe gpt swap doesnt have uuids. so use sda6 in fstab
[14:19] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, private message??
[14:20] <wgetME> cfhowlett_: sure
[14:20] <dorkusmaximus> k1l_: i have a new drive. i used clonezilla to put everything on the new drive last night. would the UUID change during a clone?
[14:24] <Galadriel_LOTR> lut!
[14:24] <gubano> Hi. Which ports do i need to open in my firewall to allow ubuntu software updater communication?
[14:25] <d0rkusmaximus> k1l_, looks like UUID changes when clonezilla is used: http://fogproject.org/forum/threads/imaging-linux-systems-uuid-for-swap-not-matching-on-deployed-systems-eh.10901/ so i guess maybe thats my prob. ill try using the device name like you suggested
[14:27] <OerHeks> gubano, port 22 i guess
[14:28] <Galadriel_LOTR> where are you from?
[14:28] <gubano> Oerheks: tried but it didnt work
[14:31] <EriC^^> gubano: try port 80
[14:32] <OerHeks> EriC^^ good one
[14:32] <gubano> eric: port 80 and 443 is already open.
[14:32] <OerHeks> dns port 63?
[14:33] <johan__> hello
[14:33] <OerHeks> see #methode 2 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicSecurity/Firewall
[14:33] <gubano> yeah, port 53 (which i assume is what you ment) is open
[14:33] <gubano> ok, will check the link
[14:34] <EriC^^> OerHeks: it might be closed, who knows
[14:34] <nedal_> Hi, I would like to know what does the total number on ls -l command refers to
[14:38] <gubano> is there any difference using software update vs apt-get ?
[14:39] <uranellus> nedal_: It's the count of 512-byte blocks used by the files in the directory.
[14:40] <plotino> hello
[14:40] <plotino> updating debian from squeeze to wheezy
[14:40] <plotino> as GUI currently only twm wors properly
[14:41] <plotino> gnome shell crash while gnome classic is worngly displayed: black borders with no menus
[14:41] <DJones> plotino: For debian support, you'll need to ask in #debian
[14:41] <plotino> can u hep me?
[14:41] <android22> apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:41] <OerHeks> plotino, wrong channel for support.
[14:41] <plotino> i suppose the problem is not distro dependent
[14:41] <embik> so what?
[14:41] <embik> there is #debian
[14:42] <NikTh> plotino:  I suppose it is distro depended and also depends on how you tried to upgrade.
[14:42] <android22> apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:43] <cfhowlett_> plotino, debian not supported here.  go to #debian
[14:43] <felon> whats a good program to create a virtual hotspot for my other devices in ubuntu 14.04
[14:43] <dorkusmaximus> k1l_: swap works now...i had to reformat the partition with mkswap. then it gave me a new UUID and i pasted into fstab.
[14:44] <nedal_> uranellus_: can you explain more? why exactly 512 byte blocks ? plus, if there is a sub-directory in the listing how is it expressed on the total number?
[14:44] <NikTh> felon: I think the pre-installed network manager can handle hotspots, but I've never tried.
[14:46] <android22> felon: you can google for "ubuntu softap"
[14:46] <Awzuu> Question: Can anyone say me why backports are active by default in Ubuntu Server 14.04?
[14:48] <cfhowlett_> Awzuu, pretty sure they are NOT active by default, but if so .. turn em off!
[14:48] <android22> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[14:48] <OerHeks> Awzuu, that is default since 11.10
[14:48] <cfhowlett_> OerHeks, on server only?  cuz I have to set the desktop manually ...
[14:49] <Awzuu> OerHeks: Can you say me why backports are active by default. I think such packages are not good at productive systems
[14:49] <OerHeks> cfhowlett_, i guess 14.04/10  desktop too, i have them on.
[14:52] <NikTh> 9 mothns from October is June or July ?
[14:52] <cfhowlett_> NikTh, use finger and toes ... you'll get it
[14:53] <OerHeks> 8 months from now, NikTh
[14:53] <NikTh> cfhowlett_:  I've used them already but I need a confirmation, use yours as well and tell me :)
[14:54] <Seveas> If you need confirmation for this, it's time to go back to kindergarten
[14:54] <OerHeks> Awzuu, yes, there are reasons not to enable it, though those backports are requested by the community, not bu default.
[14:54] <OerHeks> *by
[14:54] <Awzuu> Are at Ubuntu Server 14.04 only 'main' and 'restricted'-packages or also 'universe' or 'multiverse'. Don't know how to check
[14:55] <Seveas> Awzuu: Ubuntu server uses the same repos as Ubuntu, so you have universe and multiverse too
[14:55] <OerHeks> Awzuu, nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:56] <EriC^^> Awzuu: type cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:56] <NikTh> Ok, let me reveille what was my thought at first time :  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases is there a typo or not ? (for Unicorn EOL)
[14:56] <Awzuu> Sorry, I meant if I install Ubuntu: Are there packages installed from 'universe' or 'multiverse' by default.
[14:57] <BluesKaj_> Awzuu, both
[14:57] <NikTh> Awzuu:  Here you can see the default pre-installed packages for Ubuntu 14.04 : http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.manifest
[14:57] <Awzuu> BluesKaj_: How can I check which packages?
[14:58] <EriC^^> Awzuu: that's the list of the packages on the live session, not the installed one
[14:58] <Awzuu> NikTh: Thank you, but I know this page. Unfortunately it doesn't show from which components the packages are
[14:59] <Seveas> NikTh: that is probably just a simple mistake.
[14:59] <Seveas> Awzuu: no Ubuntu variant installs packages from universe by default.
[14:59] <BluesKaj_> Awzuu, you can check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[14:59] <Seveas> s/no/no supported/
[15:00] <NikTh> EriC^^:  Those packages I thought there are the packages will be installed by default in a fresh installation, isn't that true ?
[15:01] <Awzuu> Sevas: And from multiverse?
[15:01] <Seveas> Awzuu: same.
[15:01] <Awzuu> BluesKaj_: Well, is there a command I can see all my installed packages with their component (main, restricted, ...)?
[15:02] <ajinkya> hello everyone
[15:02] <EriC^^> NikTh: no, those are the packages in the live session, for instance gparted is there but it's removed before the installation finishes.
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> Awzuu  try apt-cache show [package]
[15:03] <Seveas> Awzuu: not that I know of. You could get somewhere with dpkg -l, xargs and apt-cache policy :)
[15:03] <EriC^^> Awzuu: this would list all the packages that are installed by default along with the info of where they came from gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u | xargs apt-cache show
[15:04] <BluesKaj_> Awzuu, not that I know of , you choose aparticular package in the package manager and check the repos component
[15:04] <NikTh> EriC^^: Correct. Gparted is a good example. So where someone can find the packages that will be installed by default in a fresh Ubuntu installation?
[15:04] <Seveas> Hello ajinkya! How can we help you?
[15:04] <EriC^^> NikTh: check the command above
[15:04] <NikTh> EriC^^: I mean, some list like manifest (online).
[15:04] <EriC^^> NikTh: /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz
[15:04] <ajinkya> Hello guys , I am using linux mint 17, I am developing one java application , for that i want to access system inbuilt word dictionary. So is there any solution for this ?
[15:05] <Seveas> !mint | ajinkya
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> ajinkya  ask in the mint channel
[15:05] <ajinkya> oopss
[15:05] <ajinkya> sorry guys
[15:05] <NikTh> Seveas: Thanks for the confirmation. I will correct the wiki page. :-)
[15:05] <cfhowlett_> wgetME, https://www.reddit.com/r/cad/comments/2lvayj/buying_a_new_cad_desktop_machine_how_specd_out_is/
[15:06] <Awzuu> Thank you, EriC^^. But normally all packages which are installed by default comes from main and restricted, correct?
[15:06] <paul_> Hi Guys... If using the backup utility in Ubuntu 14 .. when it creates a second back up does it just add new items ?
[15:07] <EriC^^> Awzuu: i guess so, if you add | grep universe to the command it returns nothing
[15:08] <Seveas> Awzuu: correct.
[15:09] <NikTh> Awzuu: Main and Restricted it says here too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[15:10] <BluesKaj_> Awzuu, why don't you tell us your real concern here, why are you worried about which package repos are default?
[15:10] <Guest47059> الو
[15:10] <Awzuu> BluesKaj_: Only because of interest
[15:11] <Guest47059> Hi
[15:11] <Guest47059> I am just trying the server :)
[15:11] <OerHeks> Awzuu, one option during install, is giving Landscape control over updates ;-)
[15:12] <NikTh> BluesKaj_: a potential "real" concern could be : Is Ubuntu a real open source distribution? Is Ubuntu includes any closed source/restricted software by default ?
[15:12] <Guest47059> Hi people, may I ask you to help me to install windows driver for my USB Oscilloscope on Ubunto?
[15:12] <OerHeks> NikTh, closed software not, you must enable it yourself
[15:12] <teward> Guest47059: have you checked if there's a Linux driver?
[15:13] <NikTh> OerHeks:  ;-)
[15:13] <Guest47059> Yes there is not
[15:15] <BluesKaj_> NikTh, OerHeks answered your question
[15:15] <flexus> Guest47059: you may check if kernel finds the scope
[15:17] <NikTh> BluesKaj_: Well, was not actually my question, but a potential newcomer Ubuntu user concern, that reads false accusations "here and there" in the web :-)
[15:18] <dinosaur_> Could you please help me setting up exim4 on Ubuntu Server 12.04?
[15:18] <BluesKaj_> NikTh, just remind the potential new Ubuntu user that the repos are virus free so far
[15:18] <dinosaur_> I installed it, but when I issue service exim4 start, I can't see anything in ps auwx | grep exim
[15:19] <ikonia> dinosaur_: what are you trying to do with exim ?
[15:21] <dinosaur_> ikonia: I want to set this server up so I could send mails with it. I tried: echo "Test" | mail -s "Test" root and it gave me :
[15:21] <dinosaur_> "/home/dragon/dead.letter" 9/200
[15:21] <dinosaur_> . . . message not sent.
[15:21] <dinosaur_> */usr/lib/sendmail: No such file or directory as the first line
[15:21] <ikonia> dinosaur_: you want to send them externally or internally ?
[15:22] <dinosaur_> ikonia: for a good start, it will be enough for me if I will be able to send them to root. Finally, I would like to be able to send them to my host machine.
[15:22] <ikonia> your host machine ?
[15:22] <ikonia> dinosaur_: you know ubuntu comes with postfix installed by default that is already setup to send internal mail ?
[15:23] <dinosaur_> ikonia: but I would like to learn exim
[15:23] <ikonia> ok, so learn exim then
[15:24] <dinosaur_> ikonia: do you know why it returns the error messages I presented?
[15:24] <ikonia> how did you install exim
[15:24] <dinosaur_> apt-get install exim4 and then dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config
[15:25] <ikonia> did you remove postfix
[15:25] <dinosaur_> update-exim4.conf then
[15:25] <dinosaur_> No, I did not remove postfix
[15:25] <WyZeGuY> http://d01.megashares.com/index.php?d01=oDNbp2S
[15:25] <dinosaur_> Should I?
[15:25] <WyZeGuY> http://d01.megashares.com/index.php?d01=lw8UVCH
[15:25] <ikonia> dinosaur_: well 2 mta's won't work
[15:25] <ikonia> WyZeGuY: top
[15:25] <ikonia> stop
[15:25] <dinosaur_> ikonia: OK, I will try that, thanks
[15:25] <WyZeGuY> i'm providing screenshots of my terminal and what it says about wifi
[15:26] <WyZeGuY> ikonia ^
[15:26] <ikonia> WyZeGuY: explain your problem - don't just paste random screen shots
[15:26] <dinosaur_> ikonia: apt-get remove postfix returned package postfix is not installed
[15:26] <ikonia> dinosaur_: so exim should have removed it then, which is good
[15:26] <ikonia> dinosaur_: so the first thing is to try to get exim started
[15:26] <ikonia> dinosaur_: then find out where the symlink to sendmail is - and why it's missing
[15:26] <ikonia> then sort your ocnfig
[15:26] <ikonia> config
[15:26] <WyZeGuY> ikonia, sorry, i figured the picture was worth more. i've tried explaining it to several linux users, and no one knows what to do, but most people agree there is a solution
[15:27] <ikonia> no-one knows what to do - but they know there is a solution, seems pointless
[15:28] <WyZeGuY> i know, that's why i figured i'd show you guys screenshots. maybe someone would see what the problem was
[15:28] <ikonia> just expain the problem
[15:28] <ikonia> or at least a summery
[15:28] <WyZeGuY> ok here we go again
[15:28] <SchrodingersScat> !details
[15:28] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: is this a Lenovo?
[15:29] <WyZeGuY> what's a lenovo?
[15:29] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: a brand of laptop
[15:29] <dinosaur_> ikonia: which exim returns nothing, is this OK?
[15:29] <WyZeGuY> no an Asus
[15:29] <WyZeGuY> Asus q502la
[15:29] <ikonia> dinosaur_: don't worry about that -
[15:30] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: and which ubuntu?
[15:30] <ikonia> dinosaur_: it should be in /usr/sbin
[15:30] <ikonia> dinosaur_: check it is
[15:30] <WyZeGuY> wifi won't work. Asus Q502L, Intel 7260 card, driver is in the /lib/firmware folder, not being recognized by computer.
[15:30] <dinosaur_> ikonia: A lot of exim binaries there, but not "exim" itself
[15:30] <WyZeGuY> may i post the screen shots now?
[15:31] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: you already did.
[15:31] <WyZeGuY> there are more
[15:31] <ikonia> dinosaur_: check what the startup script is trying to call
[15:31] <ikonia> WyZeGuY: "not working" isn't helpful
[15:31] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: so i shall ask for the second time, which ubuntu version?
[15:31] <WyZeGuY> i tried all of the wifi inquiry commands i could find on google
[15:31] <ikonia> explaining what you've done to get it working, and in what way it's failing
[15:31] <WyZeGuY> 14.10
[15:31] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: do you have an interface besides eth0 from "ifconfig -a" ?
[15:32] <WyZeGuY> daftykinsjust eth0 and lo
[15:32] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: and "rfkill list all" ?
[15:32] <WyZeGuY> that's in one of my screenshots
[15:32] <WyZeGuY> nothing's blocked
[15:33] <WyZeGuY> i could post all of my screenshots...?
[15:33] <ikonia> stop with screen shots
[15:33] <ikonia> just give the info you are asked for
[15:33] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: how many more are we talking? images of text are incredibly inefficient
[15:33] <WyZeGuY> 6 total
[15:34] <dinosaur_> ikonia: It will take some time, but I got the idea perhaps I should install daemon-heavy or light, not just exim4 itself?
[15:34] <WyZeGuY> including ifconfig, iwconfig, lspci, rfkill, modinfo, lsmod, iwlist scanning
[15:34] <ikonia> dinosaur_: why would you do that ?
[15:35] <WyZeGuY> daftykins, may i PM you the screenshots?
[15:35] <DemHydraz> Hello, I have changed my locale today, and I accidentally closed the 'Rename default folders' prompt thing, how can I reopen it?
[15:35] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: type sudo modprobe iwlmvm
[15:35] <WyZeGuY> ok
[15:35] <WyZeGuY> nothing came up
[15:36] <dinosaur_> ikonia: because /usr/sbin/exim4 is tried to be called in the startup script, but it does not exist. Perhaps it is necessary to install the daemon. OK, let's see. BRB
[15:36] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: from 'ifconfig -a' ?
[15:37] <ikonia> dinosaur_: sorry, I don't understand why you want to install non-exim packages to fix exim
[15:37] <Awzuu> Another question: If I buy webspace from a webhoster I can upload data with FTP for example and in the FTP-program I have only access to my website-dictionary. How can I configure my Ubuntu Server to offer this solution for other people?
[15:37] <ikonia> Awzuu: you don't
[15:37] <ikonia> Awzuu: you learn the basics of web hosting before offering it to other people
[15:38] <Awzuu> ikonia: Well, of course. But it would be interesting how is works.
[15:38] <ikonia> Awzuu: it works by locking the directories via permissions
[15:38] <frankfurt> weerwr
[15:39] <ikonia> or setting the root of the server to an isolated area
[15:39] <zykotick9> Awzuu: ftp servers usually have a chroot-type feature...
[15:39] <SchrodingersScat> !sftp
[15:39] <Awzuu> zykotick9: As far as I know chroot is not a security feature in Linux, is it?
[15:40] <zykotick9> Awzuu: it is... kinda...
[15:40] <ikonia> Awzuu: this goes back to the "learn the basics" approach
[15:41] <bigsyesser> ikonia: You tell them boy.
[15:42] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: follow this or install a newer kernel to solve your problem - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2242147&p=13112184#post13112184
[15:44] <zykotick9> Awzuu: fyi, from proftpd, i guess they call it DefaultRoot http://www.proftpd.org/docs/howto/Chroot.html
[15:45] <zykotick9> ^ ftp needs to die in a fire
[15:48] <ChoiKyuSang> choiks〃test
[15:49] <zykotick9> ChoiKyuSang: test failed ;)
[15:49] <ChoiKyuSang> yes, tset complete.
[15:49] <ChoiKyuSang> test
[15:49] <ChoiKyuSang> choks is my linux virtual machine
[15:52] <daftykins> !test | ChoiKyuSang
[15:53] <choiks> I need only '〃' character
[15:55] <AstroRyan> hey there does anyone know where i can connect to linux mint channel?
[15:55] <DJones> !mint | AstroRyan
[15:55] <ChoiKyuSang> ##linuxmint
[15:55] <ChoiKyuSang> and irc.spotchat.org #linuxmint-chat
[15:57] <AstroRyan> thanks
[16:00] <sere> anyone know how to stop mini dlna media server from running at startup?
[16:03] <curt> Hi guys, my "additional drivers" section is not showing any nvidia drivers at all and I cant activate my nvidia card with prime
[16:03] <curt>  I resolved this issue last week by removing a PPA for xorg edgers and reverting to the original and everythign worked great
[16:03] <curt>  but now its back to showing no drivers, im not sure if its because of a software update or what
[16:05] <Ingrid23>  There is no such thing as Free Porn http://bitly.com/1nx3K4c
[16:06] <SchrodingersScat> !spam | Ingrid23
[16:06] <cfhowlett_> Ingrid23, go away
[16:06] <curt> I really want to click that link but I also dont
[16:06] <curt> can anyone help me with my video card issue? I ha resolved it last week, everythign worked fine but now im back to showing no drivers in "additional drivers" and only my intel card works
[16:06] <JYD> Guys,, what am I missing? I ditched light--locker(purged btw) and installed xscreensaver. Now 2 things happen,, in the "screensaver" settings dialog I enabled "lock screen after 10 minutes". In 10 minutes,, the screen goes blank,, however it doesn't lock it until after about 30 minutes. And the second thing,, the xscreensaver login dialog is blank(can't see it) however I can see the mouse, and I can input the password blindly, although it works. What
[16:06] <JYD> the f.
[16:07] <JYD> For some reason,, I remember pre 14.04 when xscreensaver was the default,, there were more options within the power-manager and xscreensaver dialog.
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> JYD  ok, but drop the strong language
[16:09] <jhutchins_wk> JYD: Options are bad.  The powers that be have decided that screensavers are old and no longer relevant.
[16:09] <jhutchins_wk> JYD: You will conform.
[16:11] <MarkNew2Ubuntu> Hi guys im new to ubuntu and im having an issuse with brightness on my Sony Vaio laptop. Can anyone help?
[16:12] <cynixx3> MarkNew2Ubuntu, usually you can fn+rightarrow.
[16:12] <EriC^^> MarkNew2Ubuntu: what's the problem?
[16:12] <MarkNew2Ubuntu> the function key dont change brightness and the brightness app in settins wont change it either
[16:13] <JYD> MonkeyDust, Did "f" offend you?
[16:13] <JYD> Did "f" offend anyone?
[16:13] <saverio> buona sera a tutti
[16:13] <JYD> Are we boys or men?
[16:13] <SonikkuAmerica> jhutchins_wk: What are earth? You in the matrix or something? KDE thinks they're still relevant :P
[16:13] <OerHeks> channelpolicy, JYD
[16:13] <cynixx3> :( I wonder if you need a monitor driver. Never needed that for linux before though. so I dono.
[16:14] <EriC^^> MarkNew2Ubuntu: try xbacklight
[16:14] <EriC^^> MarkNew2Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xbacklight
[16:15] <JYD> OerHeks, Well if it's policy.
[16:15] <cynixx3> JYD. Try the Brightness and Lock app to change the 30minute time limit.
[16:16] <MarkNew2Ubuntu> ok ive installed it
[16:16] <JYD> cynixx3, Forgive me I'm using xubuntu.
[16:17] <JYD> Or should I say XFCE
[16:17] <EriC^^> MarkNew2Ubuntu: ok, try xbacklight -set 40
[16:17] <JYD> Don't have a Brightness and Lock app
[16:18] <MarkNew2Ubuntu> the command didnt change anything
[16:19] <jhutchins_wk> SonikkuAmerica: Seriously, it's in the mailing list.  Screensaver = bad.
[16:19] <SonikkuAmerica> jhutchins_wk: Show me this travesty
[16:20] <SecEng> So i am having an issue install ubuntu. I have used the same install media on the same HW 5 times, trying to get 3 more built. and it fails to install trying to DL the kernel
[16:20] <jhutchins_wk> SonikkuAmerica: Sorry, you'll have to find it yourself.  A little google for screensaver 14.04 should do it.
[16:20] <SonikkuAmerica> jhutchins_wk: k
[16:20] <SecEng> the error says the image cant be authenticated, and -y was used without --force-yes
[16:21] <SonikkuAmerica> jhutchins_wk: um?
[16:21] <JYD> Nooooobody knows the trouble I've seen. Nobody knows but Jeeeesuuuus.
[16:22] <jhutchins_wk> SonikkuAmerica: I was a little surprized (not much considering recent gnome policy), I used my Ubuntu system 99% for a slideshow.
[16:22] <cynixx3> kinda of overkill for a slide show system.
[16:22] <SecEng> anyone have any suggestions? i tried switching mirrors
[16:23] <SecEng> 14.04.1 server
[16:23] <cynixx3> wouldnt damn small linux be better for just running a slideshow jhutchins_wk?
[16:24] <jhutchins_wk> cynixx3: No need for economy, the box was perfectly capable of running ubuntu.  Also served for ubuntu reference, ssh terminal, misc. Linux tasks.  Gone now.
[16:24] <k1l> SecEng: show the error in a pastebin.
[16:25] <cynixx3> jhutchins_wk, so what problem are you having?
[16:25] <SonikkuAmerica> jhutchins_wk: I have 0 problems with xscreensaver on Xubuntu; I dunno what they're talking about.
[16:26] <jhutchins_wk> SonikkuAmerica: It's disabled on recent releases, there's a workaround but it requires some configuration.
[16:27] <jhutchins_wk> SonikkuAmerica: They think that it's a waste of power, potentially distracting in public environments or multi-user applications.  Something like that, it's not like I memorize and permanently link dumb stuff.
[16:27] <jhutchins_wk> SonikkuAmerica: I was running xfce too.
[16:27] <SonikkuAmerica> jhutchins_wk: Well that I could understand, I guess.
[16:27] <SonikkuAmerica> jhutchins_wk: No workaround needed btw... just purge light-locker firts
[16:27] <SonikkuAmerica> *first
[16:29] <jhutchins_wk> Yeah, I fixed it a couple months ago when 12.04 auto-updated to 14.04 but the system's gone now and I've moved on.
[16:29] <SecEng> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9198589/
[16:29] <sere> anyone know how to stop mini dlna media server from running at startup?
[16:31] <cynixx3> SecEng, is that paste from an attempted upgrade?
[16:32] <SecEng> fresh install
[16:32] <SecEng> i am at a corporate environment, with a proxy
[16:32] <cynixx3> a fresh install is failing. Are you sure the install DVD has been verified?
[16:33] <cfhowlett> also verify the .iso
[16:33] <SecEng> i did verify media and that came back clean.
[16:34] <SecEng> also, i used this media (USB drive) 5 other times 1 month ago on the exact same HW
[16:34] <cynixx3> I find it odd that in your paste linux-headers are considered an extra package.
[16:34] <SecEng> it looks like its trying to download the files
[16:34] <SecEng> from the mirror, in fact almost every file from the install was downloaded (it seems like), my proxy is logging all the requests
[16:35] <guest-QI8Zz7> Hello
[16:35] <guest-QI8Zz7> where can I go to for issues with Ubuntu?
[16:36] <k1l> guest-QI8Zz7: this is the right channel
[16:36] <teward> guest-QI8Zz7: you're in the Ubuntu community support channel, you can start here.
[16:36] <guest-QI8Zz7> Ok thanks
[16:36] <gothic1> Who decides which fonts get standardly installed for all the unicode
[16:36] <gothic1> Somebody decided to standardly give you a horrible, unreadable font, for the Gothic language.
[16:37] <gothic1> Which doesn't even match the actual ancient Gothic manuscripts.
[16:37] <cynixx3> :(
[16:37] <gothic1> I want to know who decided that and why.
[16:37] <cfhowlett> gothic1, because there are no ancient goth ubuntu users
[16:37] <k1l> gothic1: no. it is just that gothic is not a that big issue to most users. not to say all user beside a handfull of others
[16:37] <k1l> gothic1: so file a bug for that and contribute that "the right" font is used
[16:38] <cfhowlett> gothic1, tis ^^^^
[16:38] <cfhowlett> *this*
[16:38] <gothic1> cfhowlett: Then you are wrong, because I 'm a regular contributor at the Gothic wikipedia, and I use linux, but I currently simply can't read articles well, because there are dozens of good fonts, but for some reason the worst font was choosen for Linux.
[16:38] <gothic1> k1l: Where can I file a bug?
[16:38] <k1l> !bug | gothic1
[16:38] <BluesKaj> standardly? there's a new one
[16:40]  * cfhowlett thinks "Now if only someone would fix that funky Klingon font!"
[16:41] <gothic1> cfhowlett: But Klingon uses Latin script.
[16:41] <gothic1> cfhowlett: So that's different.
[16:41] <nedal_> Hi, I want to know the block size of my file system. what command should I use ?
[16:41] <gothic1> cfhowlett: But I registered a Launchpad account, but if I want to file a bug against a program, I don't really know which program to mention,
[16:42] <daftykins> nedal_: might be best if you tell us what you're trying to do
[16:42] <k1l> gothic1: we cant help you with that issue in here. please file a bug for the fonts and see if you can solve it with the maintainers
[16:42] <nedal_> I m trying to figure out what the total number on ls -l command refers to
[16:43] <cynixx3> nedal_,  to your first question. blockdev --getbsz /dev/sda
[16:43] <gothic1> k1l: Ok, if you explain me where at Launchpad.net I can report bugs
[16:43] <k1l> nedal_: for folders its just 4096
[16:45] <k1l> gothic search for the package/program, then on the right side on that packages page its "report a bug"
[16:45] <nedal_> so what s the relation between 4096 and the total number ?
[16:45] <k1l> gothic1: or you use ubuntu-bug packagename     in terminal
[16:45] <gothic1> k1l: Well, the package/program is the whole ubuntu system at which the font is used. It's a system font.
[16:45] <gothic1> so the packagename is:   ubuntu
[16:45] <gothic1> ?
[16:46] <gothic1> As it's the whole of ubuntu
[16:46] <k1l> gothic1: wait
[16:46] <k1l> gothic1: last time you said its the specific font that got the wrong unicodes in it. why not file it against that?
[16:46] <cynixx3> nedal_, its the number of bytes the folder information uses.
[16:47] <k1l> gothic1: you need to get your facts as right as possible. if you just keep on rambling "all ubuntu is crap because my special font is not included" the motivation of others to help you is lowest possible. adress the bug to the right place so the riight maintainer/dev will look at it
[16:48] <k1l> gothic1: so get to know which font you actually use and in which package that is included on ubuntu. that is the packge to file the bug to
[16:48] <nedal_> cynixx3 so there is no mathematics relation ?
[16:49] <k1l> nedal_: its no relation.
[16:49] <gothic1> k1l: Let me try to explain it clearly. The font is attached to the right unicode. But it's like this, this is the standard K in the font which Linux has choosen: http://static.memrise.com/uploads/things/images/20285994_131016_1606_45.png, and this the standard R: http://static.memrise.com/uploads/things/images/20286002_131016_1609_28.png
[16:49] <k1l> nedal_: its just "this is a folder so we give it the number 4096"
[16:49] <cynixx3> nedal_, in what way? All folders take 4096 bytes (or bites not sure)
[16:49] <k1l> nedal_: if you want to know the size use "du"
[16:49] <gothic1> k1l: This makes it impossible for me to distinguish the two letters well. Also, the creator, Mike Everson, for some reason choose to make the D into a symbol which the original Gothic didn' t even have: http://static.memrise.com/uploads/things/images/20285987_131016_1606_13.png
[16:49] <EriC^^> nedal_ is talking about how he can calculate the total in ls -l
[16:49] <naurio> Hi, i
[16:50] <gothic1> k1l: And the B had a much smaller extension at the right side: http://static.memrise.com/uploads/things/images/20285985_131016_1606_30.png
[16:50] <cynixx3> nedal_, du -sh .
[16:50] <k1l> gothic1: honestly i dont care about the details of fonts.
[16:50] <gothic1> k1l: In other words, this font is horrible. So I want a global change of it. Because other fonts actually made the things which I mentioned in the right way.
[16:50] <naurio> Hi, i'm trying to setup an minimal system based on xfce ontop of ubuntu minimal
[16:50] <gothic1> k1l: I DO care, because these details make a text unreadable.
[16:50] <gothic1> k1l: If I try to read an article at the Gothic wikipedia, I can't, because the font is horribly done.
[16:50] <k1l> gothic1: but no dev or maintainer will change anything if you file the bug against the wrong packages.
[16:50] <naurio> but I stumble upon an problem with network-manager-gnome
[16:50] <nedal_> cynixx3 I get 3,2G what does it mean ?
[16:50] <k1l> gothic1: stop
[16:51] <cynixx3> that folder has 3.2 gigs of data in it.
[16:51] <naurio> the applet shows fine, but if i click on any wifi connection the password dialog does not pop up.  But Ubuntu and it's manuels are very unclear about that.
[16:52] <cynixx3> nedal_, the du command reports the disk usage for the requested directory. -sh is asking for a summery and human readable format
[16:52] <nedal_> Eric^^ yes, still trying to
[16:52] <k1l> gothic1: your issue right now is to search what font you actually use (keep in mind browsers might use different ones) and then file a bug against the package that contains that font.
[16:52] <gothic1> cfhowlett: And the method with k1l explained to me previous time only changed the bold text in the font which I choose, for one session. Now it's al undone.
[16:52] <gothic1> k1l: Yes, I tried to find the font, but it's unfindable.
[16:53] <gothic1> Again, I 'm a total noob, and I need step-by-step explanations with regards to Ubuntu, to know what to do.
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> gothic1  some 20 people in ##fonts, better ask there
[16:53] <albert> shuang
[16:53] <cynixx3> nedal_, the du command should show you the results of total ls -l field multiplied times your blocksize.
[16:53] <cynixx3> but du is more accurate than ls block size.
[16:54] <cynixx3> is that the answer your looking for nedal_?
[16:55] <nedal_> cynixx3 nit exactly, Eric^^ understood what I m looking for. It s how can I calculate the total in ls -l
[16:56] <ankit> hi
[16:56] <k1l> nedal_: you cant.
[16:57] <cynixx3> nedal_, why do you want to calculate it? I assumed to determine the disk usage.
[16:58] <nedal_> cynixx3, I thought that there is a relation between total and the blocksize
[16:58] <cynixx3> more the number of blocks rather than the size of them.
[16:59] <kate_r_> hi
[17:00] <NanoSector> Hey ho. My Ethernet fails to connect, it'll just stick at connecting, and eventually disconnect
[17:00] <cynixx3> I believe ( I may be wrong) the total in ls -l is the number of blocks that folder uses. blockdev --getbsz 'yourhd' reports blocksize.
[17:00] <NanoSector> My Ethernet adapter is online and detected
[17:00] <cynixx3> multiply one times the other should give you a ROUGH estimate of total volume used. But du is much more accurate.
[17:01] <kate_r_> about how many ports could a ubuntu box leave open at any one time?
[17:01] <kate_r_> especially for bittorrent
[17:01] <cynixx3> kate_r_, 65,000
[17:01] <kate_r_> cynixx3: but is that the theoretical or practical maximum?
[17:02] <cynixx3> nearly practical. Thats about how many ports are in the IP protocol.
[17:03] <cynixx3> ~1000 are reserved for various reasons. Leaving that many ports open is a huge security risk though.
[17:03] <nedal_> cynixx3, you might be right because the total number is less in each sub-directory .. It make sens
[17:03] <cynixx3> your basically running without a firewall at that point. What are you really trying to do with bittorrent?
[17:04] <kate_r_> cynixx3: i just wonder how many torrents could a ubuntu box serve
[17:04] <kate_r_> cynixx3: the ports will only be used for outgoing connections though
[17:04] <Dondopa> I have a problem. My Acer P3 Wireless cover keyboard is detected by Ubuntu 14.04 Bluetooth GUI but it says it failed when I tried to pair it.
[17:05] <cynixx3> How many torrents it can serve is more of a question of processor ability and ram size. ports are often not a problem.
[17:05] <nedal_> cynixx3_ always about the command ls -l , the second column is about the number of hard links right?
[17:05] <Dondopa> Is there anyway that I can use my bluetooth keyboard if the bluetooth gui is not working?
[17:06] <Dondopa> What do I need to install to get this thing working?
[17:06] <kate_r_> cynixx3: ah okay
[17:07] <cynixx3> nedal_, could I send you what I am using to answer your questions? http://go2linux.garron.me/command-ls-file-permissions
[17:08] <cynixx3> nedal_, I mainly just pay attention to the permissions and the owner of the file
[17:10] <NanoSector> So I guess noone can help with the ethernet problem?
[17:10] <TLF> Hello. I'm unable to use my own webcam in webrtc neither in chromium nor firefox, can anyone help me?
[17:11] <zyxon> howdy folks, I just installed Utopic on my system and I need help with getting the right resolution (1080p) with my freshly installed fglrx. I did notice that I'm lacking an /etc/X11/xorg.conf. could you guys pooint me to the right direction?
[17:11] <streulma> hello, is it an option to set the fan option in BIOS by "Fan Always On" on Off ? Does it work with Ubuntu?
[17:11] <cfhowlett> !fans | streulma
[17:11] <nedal_> cynixx3, the link is so useful thanks
[17:11] <Wachu> streulma, it should work
[17:11] <NanoSector> streulma, BIOS settings override ubuntu settings
[17:11] <solsTiCe> zyxon: mosst of the time now, you don't need a xorg.conf anymore
[17:12] <cfhowlett> !fan | streulma
[17:12] <zyxon> solsTiCe, okay then :) how do I get the right resolution?
[17:12] <streulma> I'm getting a white page :)
[17:12] <solsTiCe> on the command line there is xrandr, or in system settings > display and choose the right resolution
[17:13] <solsTiCe> zyxon: ^
[17:13] <Jarvix> how do you display user pic in panel
[17:13] <belgianguy> what is the dev channel for Ubuntu?
[17:13] <tyrog> Hi is it safe to install ubuntu in a btrfs partition or should stick with Ext4 for now? Thanks
[17:13] <zyxon> solsTiCe, my resolution doesn't show up in system settings or xrandr
[17:14] <cynixx3> Too many questions and not enough answerers. Sorry guys
[17:14] <Dondopa> Is there a way to connect my bluetooth cover keyboard on my Acer P3-171?
[17:15] <Dondopa> I am using the GUi but it failed to pair it
[17:15] <tyrog> Hi is it safe to install ubuntu in a btrfs partition or should stick with Ext4 for now? Thanks
[17:16] <cynixx3> Dondopa, you should be able to but you would most likely need to install some more bluetooth package. Unfortunately I dont know which one's. take a look at the software manager
[17:16] <OerHeks> belgianguy, ubuntu-devel but i think you better contact a team tru launchpad, you won't find support for apps there
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> tyrog  btrfs is safe, but i guess it's not supported here, because it's in experimental stage
[17:16] <tyrog> MonkeyDust: If it's experimental then it's not a good idea maybe, what do u think?
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> belgianguy  there's also #ubuntu-app-devel
[17:16] <chachin> wtf 1700 users
[17:16] <cynixx3> 1690 afk
[17:17] <chachin> 1702 on my irc
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> numbers numbers!
[17:17] <anonymus> hurr durr, someone using flinch? :D
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> !btrfs | tyrog
[17:18] <solsTiCe> it is pased the stage od experimental. It's the default fs in opensuse now
[17:18] <tyrog> MonkeyDust: thank you. For now I will stick with ext4, when I reinstall for the next LTS then I will probably use btrfs. Thanks
[17:18] <TLF> no idea of WebRTC here? :(
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> TLF  #ubuntu-studio is multimedia dedicated, maybe you find help there
[17:22] <TLF> MonkeyDust: thanks, but it seems it's an invite-only channel, how can I join?
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> TLF  by registering
[17:23] <TLF> MonkeyDust: where? I'm already a freenode registered user
[17:23] <faust> TLF: #ubuntustudio
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> TLF  odd. ask in #freenode, maybe
[17:23] <TLF> MonkeyDust, faust: thanks
[17:23] <dorkusmaximus> whats the command in ubuntu to see if my memory is running in dual channel mode?
[17:24] <cynixx3> solsTiCe, it looks to me like the btrfs may be default but only on the newest kernel. Ubuntu's kernel is further behind and not as ready for btrfs
[17:24] <faust> TLF: if you have set the user mode to disable forward you will see a "+i" instead of a forward
[17:24] <TLF> faust: thanks
[17:24] <Kutakizukari> With this command "sudo chown -R ghost:ghost /var/www/ghost/" what does the "ghost:ghost" part do?
[17:24] <faust> TLF: 'welcome
[17:25] <cynixx3> Kutakizukari, sets the user and usergroup
[17:26] <cynixx3> for a www directory you may want to think about trying user ghost group nobody or apache.
[17:26] <OerHeks> dorkusmaximus, maybe ' sudo dmidecode | grep "ECC"   ' can tell
[17:26] <belgianguy> OerHeks MonkeyDust: it's a generic question, about how DE's function, what languages and frameworks are used etc
[17:27] <belgianguy> eg what makes a Unity, GNOME or Cinnamon
[17:27] <user1> hi guys, what is the fontname of that appears in boot-up mode in Ubuntu?
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> belgianguy  that question would be for #ubuntu-offtopic, i guess
[17:29] <belgianguy> MonkeyDust: that would be okay
[17:31] <riki> ciao
[17:31] <riki> !list
[17:32] <nedal_> Hi again .. what does the command "echo $SHELL" give ?
[17:32] <belgianguy> it prints the SHELL environment variable
[17:32] <daftykins> the clue is in the command
[17:33] <Dondopa> This is so stressful
[17:35] <belgianguy> Dondopa: what is?
[17:36] <solsTiCe> cynixx3: ubuntu 14.10 is currently at 3.16 it is not far behind 3.17.4 which is the current stable kernel version
[17:36] <cynixx3> Good to know
[17:36] <dorkusmaximus> cpsp
[17:38] <nedal_> cynixx3  do you know what does the command "echo $SHELL" give ?
[17:39] <EriC^^> nedal_: the path to your shell
[17:39] <cynixx3> nedal_, belgianguy already answered that. its the kind of shell you are using. Most common is bash, there is also sh, ksh, tsh, and others.
[17:40] <cynixx3> and EriC^^ is right more than which one its the path to which one.
[17:41] <ai6pg> to find path, use 'which shellname e.g. which tcsh >   /usr/bin/tcsh
[17:42] <nedal_> ah okey. Thanks guys
[17:42] <Dondopa> Setting up bluetooth keyboard and mouse
[17:42] <Seven_Six_Two> zsh is my fav
[17:44] <cynixx3> Dondopa, what brand of laptop?
[17:44] <Dondopa> Acer P3
[17:44] <Dondopa> 171
[17:44] <Dondopa> Ultrabook
[17:44] <cynixx3> and your using ubuntu 14?
[17:44] <Dondopa> Yes
[17:44] <cynixx3> okay so you should already have the drivers.
[17:45] <guest217> hi
[17:45] <cynixx3> what problem are you having / where are you in the setup process?
[17:45] <Dondopa> The bluetooth mouse connected and paired successfully but sometimes it disconnects
[17:45] <Dondopa> And  the cover keyboard won't connect at all
[17:46] <Dondopa> it says it failed
[17:46] <cynixx3> is the keyboard detectable? or no search results except the mouse?
[17:47] <guest217> cli based 14.04.1 headless server: how to start x with a vnc server if needed?
[17:47] <daftykins> X doesn't belong on servers
[17:48] <dorkusmaximus> anyone know how to check if memory is running in dual channel mode without rebooting? dmidecode and i-nex don't seem to tell.
[17:49] <guest217> daftykins, i just need a way how to vnc to the server if needed and with the server automatically start a xsession. for normal no xsession is running
[17:49] <daftykins> why?
[17:52] <cynixx3> guest217, if you have a server you just ssh into it to run it. No desktop is necessary and having one is a security risk.
[17:54] <cynixx3> But if you must you install a utinity or kde desktop and then install a vnc server and have it open a loopback port to access your desktop.
[17:54] <cynixx3> its an involved process and best if you look for online documentation with the software you want to use.
[17:55] <guest217> cynixx3, need graphical to configure mythbackend. security: to prevent issues the thing only should run x if its needed - thought i wrote about that clearly...
[17:57] <cynixx3> a vnc program can not start a desktop process. the desktop process has to be listening and you have to have an open port for it to listen on. There is your security problem.
[17:58] <guest217> i would do startx from cli and on top x11vnc but startx on user does not work at all "no protocol specified" and tightvnc stucks at a grey window with useless curser
[17:59] <k1l> you dont use startx on ubuntu
[18:00] <Bicyclidine> Hello. How can I upgrade from 12.04 LTS to, say, one of the 14s not LTS? do-release-upgrade says there are no new releases.
[18:00] <k1l> guest217: what is the reason? you wan to run a gui program there? as service or just once?
[18:00] <cynixx3> guest217, try this page for more answers, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers
[18:01] <k1l> Bicyclidine: you can only upgrade 12.04 to 14.04
[18:01] <Bicyclidine> Okay. How do I do so?
[18:01] <k1l> Bicyclidine: make sure the release prompt says lts
[18:01] <Bicyclidine> "Description:Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS" from lsb_release -a.
[18:02] <cynixx3> Bicyclidine, try do-release-upgrade -d
[18:02] <k1l> cynixx3: Bicyclidine no!!
[18:02] <OerHeks> -d = development, 15.04
[18:02] <Bicyclidine> I dunno, I probably wouldn't mind a development release.
[18:02] <cynixx3> whops, I didnt know 15 was out.
[18:03] <cynixx3> Sorry Bicyclidine
[18:03] <k1l> cynixx3: dont advise that dirty hacks that will result in unwanted situation
[18:03] <NikTh> Bicyclidine: DON'T do "do-release-upgrade -d" except if you want to upgrade to the devel release.
[18:03] <OerHeks> Bicyclidine, then go for it, support in #ubuntu+1
[18:03] <k1l> Bicyclidine: "cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades"  says what?
[18:03] <Bicyclidine> Prompt=never
[18:03] <Bicyclidine> Weird.
[18:04] <NikTh> If you open the update manager you will see there in which version (LTS or Not) you can update.
[18:04] <Bicyclidine> Should I change that to normal or something?
[18:04] <k1l> Bicyclidine: is it a desktop?
[18:04] <Bicyclidine> Laptop, not a server yeah.
[18:04] <NikTh> Bicyclidine: Change this to normal will let you upgrade to a non-LTS release.
[18:04] <k1l> Bicyclidine: go to systemsettings, updates & software and there change the setting to LTS
[18:04] <Bicyclidine> Are there any special problems upgrading from LTS to non-LTS?
[18:04] <k1l> guys stop please!!!!
[18:04] <k1l> you are all giving him false advise
[18:05] <Bicyclidine> As far as I understand long-term support I don't think I really need it.
[18:05] <k1l> Bicyclidine: you only can upgrade to 14.04 from a 12.04
[18:05] <k1l> so you _need_ the lts upgrade now
[18:05] <Bicyclidine> I'm upgrading because my emacs is a full version behind and I don't want to compile it myself.
[18:05] <NikTh> But I would advice to stick with the LTS release. So, changing this to "LTS only" and you will be able upgrade to the next LTS release
[18:05] <k1l> you can not upgrade to any other version right now
[18:05] <Bicyclidine> OK lts, why not.
[18:06] <NikTh> k1l:  NO !! admit it. You CAN upgrade to a non-LTS release from an LTS release, it just NOT the default.
[18:06] <k1l> Bicyclidine: when you are upgraded to 14.04 then you can choose to upgrade to 14.10 if you want. but you need to upgrade to 14.04 first
[18:06] <Bicyclidine> Kind of wish do-release-upgrade had told me it didn't even check.
[18:06] <Bicyclidine> k1l: ok, sounds good.
[18:06] <SonikkuAmerica> NikTh: It's not a supported method.
[18:06] <k1l> NikTh: that doesnt make sense in his situation. all relases fom 12.04 to 14.04 dont have support now. so that is just a false advice for him
[18:06] <guest721> hey guys should I make  my swap partition part of a new volume gro I p?
[18:07] <k1l> NikTh: so stop that!
[18:07] <ikonia> guest721: your choice
[18:08] <NikTh> k1l:  What are you saying ? There is a non-LTS release currently supported. 14.10 , you know ? If the update manager prompt him for a non supported release, then it's a bug for sure.
[18:08] <Bicyclidine> The update manager told me there was no release at all, which kind of sucks.
[18:08] <nedal_> Again, I can t see the difference between who am i and whoami
[18:09] <k1l> NikTh: so stop that!
[18:09] <arun_> have u guys ever configured anope and unrealirc ?
[18:09] <k1l> Bicyclidine: someone changed the setting for you. i think we will never know :)
[18:10] <Bicyclidine> Weird. I'm pretty sure I never touched it.
[18:10] <Bicyclidine> Still, even with the setting it seems like it should mention it doesn't actually check, and how to make it check. Oh well.
[18:10] <Bicyclidine> Thanks.
[18:10] <cynixx3> if you changed the file now do sudo do-release-upgrade
[18:11] <Bicyclidine> Yes, it's downloading now.
[18:11] <vlastik> Beginner's question - how to change directory to the connected iPhone, that is already seen in the graphical interface?
[18:11] <Bicyclidine> maybe it's under /mnt?
[18:11] <rio_zenta> Hello
[18:12] <user1> what is the name of this font on my ubuntu server tty? http://i.imgur.com/Nutuw9j.png
[18:12] <rio_zenta> Can something like Apache affect my Network Manager modification?
[18:12] <ikonia> rio_zenta: not directly no
[18:12] <Bicyclidine> geez, i hope not.
[18:13] <solsTiCe> user1: terminal ?
[18:13] <rio_zenta> ikonia, I have been trying to modify my Network Manager from DCHP to a static IP, but even after following the instructions Ubuntu provides and also modifying resolv.conf (properly) that my nameserver is now pointing to the modem IP address, it is still failing. This is 12.04
[18:14] <ikonia> rio_zenta: you shouldn't need to touch modify.conf
[18:14] <ikonia> oops
[18:14] <ikonia> there should be no need to touch that
[18:14] <ikonia> resolv.conf
[18:14] <gerard> I have a Lenovo R52 with what I assume is a Intel 2915ABG Wireless Card, does anyone know where to acquire a driver?
[18:14] <user1> solsTiCe: you mean that the font name is "terminal"
[18:14] <user1> ?
[18:14] <ikonia> rio_zenta: I suggest you have not changed it correctly, or you would not have touched resolv.conf
[18:14] <rio_zenta> ikonia, So even if it is still <IP_ADDRESS>, that won't affect Network Manager?
[18:15] <solsTiCe> yes may be. I don't remember
[18:15] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: If it was for me, the /mnt folder is empty.
[18:15] <ikonia> rio_zenta: what are you talking about "affect network manager"
[18:15] <ikonia> rio_zenta: network manager sets it for you
[18:15] <ikonia> rio_zenta: you have it back to front
[18:15] <ikonia> rio_zenta: you change settins in network manager, not the files directly
[18:15] <rio_zenta> ikonia, Some of the solutions I came across suggested that the nameserver be changed from <IP_ADDRESS> to the IP address of the router.
[18:15] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: yeah, that was just me guessing, sorry. /media maybe?
[18:16] <solsTiCe> user1: it's called terminus and it's theone you showed us
[18:16] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: Following that line of inquiry now and will report. Thanks so far.
[18:16] <rio_zenta> ikonia, that is what I did, but it isn't working at all. Here is the link to what I did: http://www.sudo-juice.com/how-to-a-set-static-ip-in-ubuntu/
[18:16] <ikonia> rio_zenta: I don't know why you are looking at "solutions"
[18:16] <iLabs> Hello everybody!
[18:16] <ikonia> rio_zenta: open network manager, change the setting from dynamic to static, fill in the IP details you want, done
[18:16] <ikonia> rio_zenta: there is no need to change anything outside of network manager
[18:16] <iLabs> How can I install KDE on Ubuntu 14.04 Unity?
[18:16] <Bicyclidine> "By default, storage devices that are plugged into the system mount automatically in the /media/<username> directory," okay, there we go.
[18:17] <rio_zenta> ikonia, that is exactly what I did, but it isn't working. Whether I modify resolv.conf or not, it doesn't work.
[18:17] <ikonia> "it isn't working" what does that mean ?
[18:17] <user1> solsTiCe: sorry, but it is not the terminus font
[18:17] <rio_zenta> ikonia, after changing from DCHP to static IP, I have no access to the internet.
[18:17] <ikonia> rio_zenta: why ? is your route wrong, is name resolution not working, are you even on a network ?
[18:18] <iLabs> How can I install KDE on Ubuntu 14.04 Unity?
[18:18] <nmatrix9> is possible to have raid and lvm together?
[18:18] <ikonia> iLabs: install the kubuntu-desktop metapackage
[18:18] <ikonia> nmatrix9: yes
[18:19] <SchrodingersScat> !info kubuntu-desktop | iLabs
[18:19] <rio_zenta> ikonia, this is what I did. I went into my router settings and specified the DCHP range from .1 to .100, then I specified my IP address to be 150. My Netmask is: <IP_ADDRESS> and my gateway: XXX.XXX.0.1 & my DNS server is the same as gateway: XXX.XXX.0.1
[18:19] <ikonia> rio_zenta: I'm not asking you what you did
[18:19] <ikonia> rio_zenta: I'm asking you what the problem is
[18:19] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: That folder is empty.
[18:19] <iLabs> ikonia how? Terminal code?
[18:20] <Bicyclidine> hm. that's weird.
[18:20] <ikonia> iLabs: open the package manager, search for kubuntu-desktop, click install
[18:20] <NikTh> iLabs: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" is an option.
[18:20] <rio_zenta> ikonia, I'm not sure any more. Somebody else tried helping me yesterday and it seemed that everything was 'fine' after I followed this persons instructions and shared my output.
[18:20] <iLabs> ikonia Thank you!
[18:20] <bish0p_> Hi, I was wondering how easy is it to go back a version in Ubuntu? Can I just install over it from a boot drive?
[18:20] <joshumax> Hey, anyone know if debootstrap runs okay in ash, I've run into a problem
[18:20] <ikonia> rio_zenta: why do you want a static IP ?
[18:20] <SchrodingersScat> rio_zenta: so you specified an IP outside of the range?
[18:21] <ikonia> SchrodingersScat: outside of the dhcp scope it would seem,
[18:21] <rio_zenta> ikonia, I want to setup #seafile on my local network
[18:21] <SchrodingersScat> ikonia: is it just me, or would no connectivity be expected?
[18:21] <ikonia> SchrodingersScat: I suspect the problem is dns masq and the default router
[18:21] <ikonia> rio_zenta: why do you need a static ip for that
[18:21] <rio_zenta> SchrodingersScat, I am within range, I just removed the DCHP that existed from 1 to 254 to 1-100, so that 101-254 can be static now
[18:21] <farbod> hi
[18:21] <ikonia> SchrodingersScat: no, inside the network range, outside the dhcp scope is fine
[18:21] <nmatrix9> ikonia so set up raid first use the active partitions and use those to create volgroup and from there play around to create logical volumes under the group.
[18:22] <NikTh> I really didn't understand neither : 1)SonikkuAmerica>  "NikTh: It's not a supported method" , 2) k1l> " NikTh: so stop that!"
[18:22] <farbod> i want to buy a macbook and i want your idia about it
[18:22] <sacarlson> rio_zenta: that link you have and the info I see you provide sounds like it should work
[18:22] <ikonia> nmatrix9: sounds good
[18:22] <ikonia> farbod: try ##apple
[18:22] <rio_zenta> ikonia, seafile requires an IP address that I can use to access it by other PCs I use on the same network, and because I am using DCHP, the IP address keeps changing
[18:22] <sacarlson> rio_zenta: so can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> from that box?
[18:22] <ikonia> rio_zenta: so map it to a mac address in the router
[18:22] <Bicyclidine> I just plugged in my own phone and "mount" doesn't seem to know it exists.
[18:22] <ikonia> rio_zenta: that would be the easy solution, assign a static mapping on the router
[18:23] <NikTh> Can someone explain me in short, 1) Why is not a supported method, 2) Why I should stop giving advices/choices to users ?
[18:23] <farbod> thank you
[18:23] <rio_zenta> ikonia, You mean leave my router in the 1-254 range and assign a static IP from router settings?
[18:23] <k1l> NikTh: you can upgrade from 14.04 LTS to 14.10 non-lts. that is what i told the user, too
[18:23] <ikonia> rio_zenta: most routers will allow you to map a dhcp to a mac address,
[18:23] <NikTh> k1l: Can't you upgrade from 12.04.5 to 14.10 ?
[18:23] <ikonia> rio_zenta: if you're making a mess of your network stack, the easy solution is to not touch it and assign a static dhcp address within the router
[18:24] <k1l> NikTh: but from 12.04 you cant upgrade to any other release as  to 14.04. because no other release form 12.04 to 14.04 got no support
[18:24] <k1l> NikTh: no.
[18:24] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: yeah i can't tell where it's mounted. i don't know what the hell, sorry.
[18:24] <rio_zenta> sacarlson, Nope, the output is: icmp_seq=1( to n) Destination Host Unreachable
[18:24] <k1l> NikTh: see the official upgrade documentations if you still dont trust me.
[18:24] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: It might not be as easy as I had expected then. No worries, I am learning. Thanks for your help.
[18:24] <Bicyclidine> it should be easy. i don't know what gives.
[18:25] <sacarlson> rio_zenta: so ifconfig  shows and  route -n
[18:25] <NikTh> k1l : and why is that ? Update Manager should search and find the currently supported release (which is 14.10 if we speak for a non LTS) .. is this because they are too far from each other ?
[18:25] <rio_zenta> ikonia, That makes sense, but I've read on what I think was the router forum that said doing it via the router isn't such a good idea. Can this not be true?
[18:25] <ikonia> rio_zenta: why is it not a good idea ?
[18:25] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: Oh, found it.
[18:26] <gerard> I have a Lenovo R52 with what I assume is a Intel 2915ABG Wireless Card, does anyone know where to acquire a driver?
[18:26] <rio_zenta> sacarlson, yes, both ifconfig and route -n show. This is the process I went through yesterday.
[18:26] <k1l> NikTh: on ubuntu you can only go one step with an upgrade. either its 12.04 to 12.10 or the lts upgrade to 14.04. since 12.10 is dead already there is no other chance
[18:26] <NikTh> k1l: is not a matter of trust. Just to clarify things, in short of course as here we cannot writing tutorials :P
[18:26] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: You're at a terminal, right? Run just "mount".
[18:26] <ikonia> gerard: shouldn't need one if it's intel
[18:26] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: For me it's mounted at ~/.gvfs, though I couldn't tell you why.
[18:26] <k1l> NikTh: dont mix ubuntu with the way debian handles their upgrades
[18:27] <NikTh> k1l: This explanation is better than " So stop that ! " ;-)
[18:27] <rio_zenta> ikonia, Ok I misread what was being said. the OP wanted some complex solution of specifying static IP from PC-side and somehow making the router know what is going on. Here is the link: http://forum1.netgear.com/showthread.php?t=85066
[18:28] <sacarlson> rio_zenta: shows they match as stated above <IP_ADDRESS> with gateway <IP_ADDRESS>  and dns <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[18:28] <ikonia> rio_zenta: up to you what you do
[18:28] <ikonia> rio_zenta: setting a static IP is basic, and if you are struggling with it I suspect a.) running a cloud service is not something you should be doing b.) consider setting it at the router level
[18:29] <gerard> ikonia: Is the Intel wireless driver part of the kernal?
[18:29] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: At the machine, typed it in, still cannot see anything. No worries, I'll start learning with easier processes.
[18:29] <rio_zenta> sacarlson, ifconfig shows me the right inet address, but route -n gives me an output that does has the right gateway, but no evidence of an inet address in it.
[18:29] <ikonia> gerard: yes
[18:30] <joshumax> Anyone?
[18:30] <rio_zenta> ikonia, It's not that I am struggling to set it up. I followed the instructions clearly, but something in my system is not working. However, you make a valid point and I will use the router-level option
[18:31] <sacarlson> rio_zenta: so can you even ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[18:31] <ikonia> rio_zenta: if your system is not working - you are struggling to set it up
[18:31] <rio_zenta> I just wanted to "diagnose" the problem, as it may be an issue at system-level for 12.04 that others are facing.
[18:31] <Guest95061> joshumax ?
[18:31] <ikonia> rio_zenta: the fact that you need a random guide to set a static IP shows you are struggling to set it up
[18:31] <ikonia> rio_zenta: it is not a system issue with 12.04
[18:31] <ikonia> I assure you that
[18:31] <ikonia> this is specific to the changes you have made
[18:31] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: what do you mean "still cannot see anything"? mount should give you a list of things mounted to the filesystem, should include things like a phone.
[18:31] <joshumax> Guest95061: I was curious if debootstrap works correctly with ash
[18:31] <rio_zenta> sacarlson, Nope, pinging <IP_ADDRESS> (the DNS) gives the same Destination Host Unreachable
[18:32] <ikonia> rio_zenta: it sounds like you are not on the network
[18:32] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: I cannot see any change in folders or files, after issuing the command.
[18:32] <ikonia> rio_zenta: some home routers will not allow connections to machines it does not give an IP address to
[18:33] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: Mount by itself won't change anything. It's just giving you a list of where to look. You are trying to find where your iPhone is on your filesystem, yes?
[18:33] <joshumax> rio_zenta: I'm not sure what's going on, but it sounds more like a ##networking question to me
[18:33] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: Correct, buy I am very new to this OS.
[18:33] <ikonia> it's not e ##networking question
[18:33] <ikonia> the ubuntu network stack has been missconfigured
[18:33] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: ok, so do you have a terminal open? black screen with lots of text on it?
[18:34] <joshumax> ikonia: What happened?
[18:34] <Guest95061> joshumax there is no reason i can think of that debootstrap wouldn't work with ash/zsh/csh/...
[18:34] <ikonia> joshumax: he missconfigured his network settings
[18:34] <sacarlson> rio_zenta:  and I have to assume that with the same hardware hooke up when dhcp was setup it did talk to the internet then?
[18:34] <ikonia> or the router reguses to auth traffic from non-dhcp allocated traffic
[18:34] <rio_zenta> sacarlson, yes it did.
[18:34] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: Yes, learning bash and commands in it, and wanted to see whether I could copy all files from it, then to create a script for it.
[18:34] <joshumax> Guest95061: something's giving me an arithmetic syntax error
[18:34] <joshumax> Guest95061: debootstrap.log is unhelpful, as is sh -x
[18:35] <joshumax> ikonia: ouch
[18:35] <sacarlson> rio_zenta: then I have to assume the the router is filtering any address that it doesn't provide an address for.  I think it must be a router thing
[18:35] <Guest95061> joshumax sh pointed at bash or dash ?
[18:35] <joshumax> Guest95061: sh is pointed at busybox ash
[18:35] <joshumax> Guest95061: I'm working with an embedded x86 system
[18:35] <Guest95061> busybox  ouch
[18:36] <sacarlson> rio_zenta:  what IP address did it give you when you ran dhcp?
[18:36] <Guest95061> all bets are off.     totally depends on the busybox compile
[18:36] <rio_zenta> sacarlson, That is surprising. I would think Netgear routers would provide such a service. But you and ikonia may actually be right about the home router preventing me from assigning a static IP
[18:36] <Guest95061> @ jushumax  ^
[18:37] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: I just thought when it is in GUI, I should be able to find it in folder structure too.
[18:37] <joshumax> Guest95061: Any way to debug what's going wrong with debootstrap?
[18:37] <rio_zenta> sacarlson, DCHP provides an assigned address which is normally something between 1 to 20
[18:37] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: Yeah, it's in there somewhere.
[18:37] <rio_zenta> eg. .0.1 to .0.20
[18:37] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: This is what mount should show you, or something like it of course, since you're not aeshtaer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9200345/
[18:38] <sacarlson> rio_zenta: after it provides it try make it static and see if that works.  I'm out of ideas
[18:38] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: Pretty similar output.
[18:38] <rio_zenta> sacarlson, I will do what you and ikonia suggested and assign it via the router.
[18:38] <sacarlson> rio_zenta: set to dhcp mode let it get an address then switch it
[18:38] <joshumax> Guest95061: Right now my debootstrap command is "debootstrap --extractor=ar --foreign --no-check-gpg --arch=i386 sid /mnt/fs
[18:38] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: I know it's kind of incomprehensible, but that's a list of all the "devices" and where they are in your filesystem, to vastly oversimplify...
[18:39] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: One of those is your phone. I'm guessing the last one.
[18:39] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: Do I have to mount it manually then?
[18:39] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: no, it's mounted already if you can view it in the GUI, this is a list of what's mounted.
[18:40] <d0rkusmaximus> how do i turn on the screensaver in ubuntu 14.04
[18:40] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: See how it says "gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/aeshtaer/.gvfs"? that means that my phone is at that directory, /home/aeshtaer/.gvfs.
[18:40] <Guest95061> jushumax --debug    but that might be to deep in the weeds.     sorry that i'm not to hot on that app/command     maybe someone else here or in   #bash   or   #debian     seeing that it's not really ubuntu specific.
[18:41] <joshumax> Ah, forgot about #debian, good idea
[18:41] <joshumax> I was originally trying to bootstrap lucid, so
[18:41] <joshumax> Yesh
[18:41] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: I don't see such folder in my username folder.
[18:42] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: can you paste the output of mount like I did?
[18:43] <CodeGosu> i have / parition and some free space after it, is there a way i can resize it while running it?
[18:43] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: Ah, it is in completely different folder -> /run/user/1000/gvfs/
[18:43] <Bicyclidine> there you go then
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> CodeGosu  not while it's running, like: you can't repair a car engine while it's running
[18:44] <bubbasaures> CodeGosu, Not if regular ext partitioning.
[18:44] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: Thanks a million!
[18:45] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: no problem, sorry i drew that out
[18:46] <solsTiCe> some fs accept resizing while mounted
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> CodeGosu  backup first
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> CodeGosu  if you start changing partitions
[18:47] <CodeGosu> ext4
[18:48] <vlastik> Bicyclidine: Just one more question - will that name of the device stay, or is it generated per session/event?
[18:48] <d0rkusmaximus> cant find the screensaver tab in ubuntu anymore...where is it at?
[18:49] <Bicyclidine> vlastik: my guess is that it will stay, since gvfs is a daemon thing that runs even with nothing plugged in. the number in the directory might change, though
[18:50] <solsTiCe> CodeGosu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24027/how-can-i-resize-an-ext-root-partition-at-runtime
[18:52] <Tommmmmy> does ubuntu use to freeze while playing games?
[18:53] <k1l> not at all, Tommmmmy
[18:53] <marco94> hi
[18:53] <Tommmmmy> :c
[18:54] <Tommmmmy> and it freezes every 10 minutes even if im not playing a game
[18:56] <nedal_> hi, when I  write on the terminal screen " cd \"  the prompt returns to the next line, what am I supposed to do? I mean, what can I do whith this command ?
[18:57] <Bicyclidine> nedal_: backslash is a way of telling your shell you want to write on the next line.
[18:57] <Tommmmmy> cd is to get into a directory
[18:57] <Bicyclidine> nedal_: do you mean "cd /"?
[18:57] <bish0p_> I'm switching to xmonad, and I need a new display manager? I'm not entirely sure what that means, my friend told me to use SLiM, but everything I'm finding says it's discontinued
[18:57] <bish0p_> Is there an alternative?
[18:57] <Tommmmmy> cd Desktop
[18:57] <Tommmmmy> cd / returns you to the / directory
[18:57] <Tommmmmy> cd /home/user/Desktop
[18:58] <martisj> monring
[18:58] <Tommmmmy> if you are on /home/user
[18:58] <nedal_> Bicyclidine no I meant cd \
[18:58] <Bicyclidine> You want to change directory to something named backslash?
[18:59] <martisj> I am trying to install php5.4 on ubuntu 14.04 but when I do sudo aptitude install php5=5.4.35-1~dotdeb.1 all the dependencies get installed as version 5.5.9 ?
[18:59] <Bicyclidine> nedal_: if so, "cd \\"
[18:59] <daftykins> nedal_: "\" is not a valid path.
[18:59] <martisj> Do I have to install the dependencies separately with the same version as 5.4.35-1~dotdeb.1 ? Or is there some automatic apt-get thing I can do ?
[18:59] <nedal_> No I just want to know am I allowed to do with that command
[18:59] <Bicyclidine> Though I have no idea why you'd name a directory that.
[18:59] <k1l>  \ is windows. in ubuntu we have / for paths
[19:00] <Bicyclidine> nedal_: It's line completion. Go to your home directory and put in "cd \". Then type "Desktop" and hit enter. You will end up in ~/Desktop.
[19:00] <Bicyclidine> That's it.
[19:00] <Tommmmmy> k1l the freezes are because of nvidia-prime and my touchpad driver
[19:00] <Tommmmmy> :S
[19:01] <soufiane> lol
[19:01] <Flannel> nedal_: The reason it goes to the next line is because "\" is an escape character, so in all liklihood, you're escaping the newline, and it's waiting for the "rest" of the command.
[19:01] <nedal_> Bicyclidine I know that / is how we make paths on Linux, but when I write the backslash it brings me to the next line, there is no error message
[19:02] <Bicyclidine> nedal_: It's not an error. It's like what me and Flannel said.
[19:03] <daftykins> nedal_: sometimes guides on websites wrap commands that go onto multiple lines by using a slash at the end of one
[19:03] <nedal_> so it s making nothing, I have to write the command that I want ?
[19:03] <daftykins> hard to tell if that's what you're up to
[19:03] <Flannel> nedal_: It's doing exactly what you tell it to.  What we need to know in order to further assist you is: what are you trying to accomplish?
[19:04] <coder_> shadowe989 I've reinstalled my system
[19:04] <coder_> shadowe989 The problem ofc still exists ;)
[19:04] <nedal_> Flannel_ it s like what I said, just curious to know if this command can do something or not
[19:05] <coder_> shadowe989 In short, it seems that sometimes it can't connect
[19:06] <coder_> shadowe989 The same problem on liveCD, installed system on usb, HDD
[19:06] <Flannel> nedal_: Yes, it can.  You just need to tell it what to do in a complete and proper fashion.
[19:07] <Akiva> Hey I am doing a new install of 14.10; wondering if it is worthwhile to mount my root  differently than my home, using different filesystems
[19:07] <Akiva> any tips?
[19:07] <nedal_> Flannel , but it does not. When I write ls for example it prints: bash: cd:  ls: No such file or directory
[19:07] <Tommmmmy> when i use nvidia and my touchpad it freezes, well i think it was a bad idea after all, but, can i solve this? it was already marked as a bug, so i just have to wait?
[19:08] <fdsadfa> Got a launchpad question
[19:08] <Bicyclidine> nedal_: that's because you're typing the equivalent of "cd ls".
[19:08] <fdsadfa> I commited a bugfix(I think to my local bzr instance), how do I get it up to launchpad?
[19:08] <Bicyclidine> nedal_: I don't know how to explain this more basically to you. It is prompting you for more of the same command, not a new command.
[19:08] <daftykins> Akiva: not really, ext4 for the lot
[19:09] <nedal_> Bicylidine :D I see now !
[19:09] <guest217> k1l, no x but gui would be another approach but running a gui (via ssh -X) on the server without running xserver is not possible....
[19:09] <nedal_> what you re saying is so true
[19:09] <Akiva> daftykins: anyway to get reiser4? I hear is really good at handling small files?
[19:10] <Guest95061> akiva  pros' and cons'   seperate file systems can protect your home/private data across a reload/reinstall of the os.   it can also protect your os from an hdd failure if you should loose your home dir.     it is more time consuming and more places to cause problems if anything should go arie.    so  your choice.
[19:11] <Akiva> Guest95061: all I want is performance. Anything else is tertiary
[19:12] <curt> Hey guys, fresh install of 14.04 because I was having trouble with nvidia drivers, now on my fresh install I still have nothing under additional drivers
[19:12] <curt> in the past with a fresh install I would see nouveau and nvidia 331 on a fresh install so im very confused
[19:13] <Tommmmmy> curt which problems?
[19:13] <Tommmmmy> freezes?
[19:13] <curt> issues getting nvidia prime to run as its an optimus laptop
[19:13] <guest217> is possible to run/forward a gui on a remote machine which has no xserver running?
[19:13] <coder_> shadowe989 Are you there?
[19:13] <coder_> @shadowe989
[19:14] <fr33domlover> hello
[19:14] <gamzera_> hey guys, any sport irc channel here?
[19:14] <Tommmmmy> well a guy toldme what i needed to uninstall first the nvidia drivers apt-get purge nvidia*
[19:14] <Tommmmmy> but keep the nvidia-common
[19:14] <fr33domlover> if font hinting on LXDE doesn't work, how do I find the cause?
[19:14] <fr33domlover> I tried editing in /etc/fonts and home folder too
  in the past when I did a fresh install though I had nouveau and nvidia current already loaded up and it worked fine
[19:15] <curt>  Tommmmmy so im very confused, its as if something is held over
[19:15] <Guest95061> guest217 it will have to have some kind of application layer to draw the graphics.    possible yes.   easy no.
[19:15] <guest217> Guest95061, so the way to temporarily start x and vnc into it would be better right?
[19:16] <Tommmmmy> if you have optimus
[19:16] <Guest95061> guest217 yes
[19:16] <martisj> what does the apt-get -t switch do ?
[19:16] <Tommmmmy> why dont try bumblebee
[19:16] <EiriksHDD> Hi guys, how to I get rid of the purple loading screen?
[19:16] <martisj> I want to install php 5.4 from dotbdebg ?
[19:16] <ikonia> martisj: I advise against that
[19:16] <martisj> wow terrible typo sorry. dotdeb
[19:16] <martisj> ikonia: why is that ?
[19:17] <ikonia> martisj: because it will cause conflicts with the ubuntu packages outside of php
[19:17] <guest217> Guest95061, do you have some experience in configuring that for temporarily use? x does not start successfull as user and xtightvnc stucks with grey window
[19:17] <curt> tommmmmy after I updated my bios a fresh install actually seemd to run everything ok, I jsut want to know why im not seeing anything at all in additional drivers, something is different in this install
[19:17] <EiriksHDD> I want to see Ubuntu boot faster, is there a way to get rid of the boot purple screen?
[19:17] <curt> tommmmy I dont want to try anyhting, I just want it to work out of the box which it did last time I installed before I started messing around
[19:18] <Guest95061> EiriksHDD nosplash kernel arg maybe ?
[19:18] <martisj> ikonia: how does that happen? So there is no practical way to run php 5.4 on an ubuntu 14.04 server?
[19:18] <EiriksHDD> I'm looking into it
[19:18] <ikonia> martisj: I advise against it, you are welcome to ignore that advise
[19:18] <ikonia> advice too
[19:19] <martisj> ikonia: I appreciate the advice, can you give a real world example where something will fail if I do install 5.4 ?
[19:20] <ikonia> for the reasons I gave earlier - that is a real world example
[19:20] <OerHeks> !info php5
[19:21] <TechIsCool> hey everyone anyone experienced with CalDav? I have a question about how permissions could be applied. I have a situation where I need to lock permission on a shared calendar with about 100+ users. They can create, edit and delete their own event but may only view others events. An Admin can Create, Edit and Delete any event.
[19:21]  * Guest95061 breaking dependancies is not the end of the world... it's just the end of package manager sanity!
[19:21] <ikonia> Guest95061: it's a lot more than that
[19:21] <guest217> Guest95061, do you have some experience in configuring that for temporarily use? x does not start successfull as user and xtightvnc stucks with grey window
[19:24] <cynixx3> Welcome back guest217, did you go through that ubuntu tutorial for remote desktop?
[19:25] <guest217> cynixx3, not yet startx still does not work
[19:25] <zyxon> hello folks. are the unity webapps working for anybody?
[19:25] <cynixx3> Another user mentioned that startx is not for ubuntu.
[19:26] <guest217> cynixx3, i found that statement too but still did not found "the right way"
[19:26] <bubbasaures> zyxon, We help based on details of the actual issue.
[19:27] <cynixx3> if you want to setup tightvnc on ubuntu please follow this tutorial. If you are having a specific problem please give us an error.
[19:27] <bubbasaures> guest217, You would not use startx in starting the ubuntu desktops.
[19:27] <codder_> shadowe989 are u there? ;)
[19:28] <cynixx3> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers
[19:28] <codder_> @shadowe989 are u there? ;)
[19:28] <guest217> cynixx3, i CANNOT configure any vnc server WITHOUT a running X!!
[19:28] <bubbasaures> !tab | codder_ no @ here please
[19:29] <zyxon> bubbasaures, alright :) so I have tested 3 webapps: GMail, FacebookMessenger and Twitter. all three open the ubuntu-browser(?) with a blank page and a grey bar on top. any idea how to fix this?
[19:29] <bubbasaures> zyxon, This is what release and desktop?
[19:29] <codder_> bubbasaures why?
[19:30] <zyxon> bubbasaures, 14.10, unity
[19:30] <bubbasaures> codder_, A standard start for ubuntu is sudo service start lightdm     if lightdm, however on a vnc I'm not sure.
[19:31] <bubbasaures> zyxon, Have you modified the install like with themes?
[19:31] <zyxon> bubbasaures, a fresh install, I might add. only updates, a closed source display driver and a few other things added.
[19:31] <nszceta> I am trying to run an Arch Linux container in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and I am getting "Failed to get D-Bus connection: Unknown error -1"
[19:31] <Guest95061> tripwire ???
[19:31] <zyxon> bubbasaures, yes, currently using ambiance and the faenza icons.
[19:33] <cynixx3> guest217, what part of running a desktop is problematic? Did you install ubuntu-desktop
[19:33] <zyxon> bubbasaures, but to make sure I just tried it with the default theme settings, no luck.
[19:33] <bubbasaures> zyxon, I would suspect the closed source driver, we support open source here, there are resets for unity and compiz on each release as well.  http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/reset-unity-and-compiz-settings-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[19:34] <guest217> cynixx3, no i just installed xfce4 metapackage and trying to run that session as user
[19:34] <bubbasaures> we see a reset needed on occasion I have had to di this myself in the past, just a start at easy steps really zyxon
[19:34] <bubbasaures> do*
[19:34] <cynixx3> guest217, if you want an fxce desktop try sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[19:35] <zyxon> bubbasaures, nope, issue still persists.
[19:35] <guest217> cynixx3, but that would load all stuff i dont need after that (all other gui) - do i need just lightdm ore something?
[19:36] <nedal_> y a t il une différence entre cat et more ?
[19:36] <nszceta> wat
[19:36] <cynixx3> guest217, I am not sure exactly what packages you need but the xubuntu-desktop package is the minimum desktop packages you can have for a working system.
[19:36] <daftykins> !fr | nedal_
[19:37] <nedal_> sorry!! Is there a difference between the command cat and more ?
[19:37] <guest217> cynixx3, yes but as i said this will install all office and multimedia stuff i wont need
[19:37] <guest217> so i thought it would be possible to configure it "by hand"
[19:37] <Guest95061> !xubuntu-desktop
[19:38] <bubbasaures> codder_, Sorry the command is sudo service lightdm start    stop is used to shut down X, just wanted to be correct.
[19:38] <cynixx3> nedal_, cat is for catenate, its takes two documents and outputs them one after the other. More displays one document and stops when it fills the screen allowing you to read it.
[19:38] <Guest95061> nedal_   cat and more   are not alike.
[19:38] <zyxon> bubbasaures, I have found this. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-webapps-livemail/+bug/1377942
[19:39] <Guest95061> more is a "so called" pager.     (less is a real pager)
[19:43] <nszceta> why can't I run systemd within a container on a ubuntu host
[19:43] <bubbasaures> zyxon, May be a bug in your case I can't say it is however.
[19:44] <zyxon> bubbasaures, the bug page on launchpad says it affects several people.
[19:45] <bubbasaures> zyxon, Sure, but was posted 10/8 and nothing has been really done, not sure their definition of several people is all, you have to be careful to attach meaning.
[19:47] <zyxon> bubbasaures, it might be a backend issue. I'll see if installing chromium fixes it. afaik it can work with both ff and chromium.
[19:48] <bubbasaures> zyxon, Have you tried the guest account to see if the same there?
[19:48] <zyxon> bubbasaures, I have not, I'll take a look at that as well.
[19:49] <bubbasaures> zyxon, Was this happening from the beginning on the live and fresh install?
[19:49] <zyxon> bubbasaures, I haven't checked on the live image.
[19:49] <bubbasaures> zyxon, Any work on the fresh install?
[19:50] <zyxon> nope :)
[19:50] <zyxon> bubbasaures ^
[19:50] <nszceta> Failed to get D-Bus connection: Unknown error -1
[19:51] <bubbasaures> zyxon, I would check the guest, it sounds like you know how to switch from the closed to open source driver to check it and you have tried a reset, not sure beyond that myself is all.
[19:54] <bubbasaures> zyxon, I would name the graphic hardware in this quest being amd?
[19:54] <Dondopa> Ok
[19:54] <Dondopa> I somehow solved the cover keyboard problem in ubuntu
[19:54] <zyxon> bubbasaures, yessir. :D
[19:55] <Dondopa> The bluetooth manager is crappy it is giving me the wrong passkey. I had to use hcidump to find the real passkey. wth?
[19:55] <Dondopa> They keyboard now works but the mouse is treacherous as always.
[19:57] <sigrokBlack> Hi
[19:59] <smacktalk> What's the sudo apt-get command to bring my chrome up to the current version?
[19:59] <Bicyclidine> upgrade?
[20:00] <OerHeks> smacktalk, update should bring you to current 39.0.2171.65
[20:01] <smacktalk> sudo apt-get upgrade chrome...seems to be working.  I just wanna be able to watch netflix
[20:02] <bigeryap> OerHeks is a m0Therfu!cke?r jac"kas's. Watch out for that N1GGER.. smacktalk
[20:02] <Dondopa> ^ lol
[20:02] <Dondopa> wtf?
[20:02] <bubbasaures> !ops | bigeryap
[20:02] <flash84> hello!
[20:02] <Bicyclidine> sup.
[20:02] <bubbasaures> doh missed you're here Flannel
[20:02] <Flannel> bubbasaures: No worries.
[20:03] <smacktalk> wow...dude...not cool
[20:03] <Seveas> Flannel to the rescue!
[20:05] <cynixx3> I am glad you got your keyboard working Dondopa. I would have never guessed to use an hcidump
[20:05] <Dondopa> cynixx3 see this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2195828
[20:06] <Dondopa> The passkey for the keyboard as shown in the gui is not the real apsskey
[20:06] <Dondopa> that's why it keeps failing
[20:06] <Dondopa> sudo hcidump -at | grep -A 1 "User Passkey Notification"
[20:06] <Dondopa> This is the command I used
[20:06] <Dondopa> To get thereal passkey
[20:07] <cynixx3> Nice.
[20:08] <fdsadfa> How do I sign the Ubuntu CoC with a new gpg key?
[20:08] <Dondopa> Ever since then whther I restart,suspend or just leave it idle it is always connected
[20:08] <cynixx3> Do you think your having a similar problem with the mouse?
[20:08] <Dondopa> I want the samefor the mouse but it is more troublesome
[20:08] <Dondopa> Sometimes when I press and hold the scoll wheel on the mouse it reconnects
[20:08] <Dondopa> but it is very unreliable
[20:09] <Alakasam> hi everybody :)
[20:09] <cynixx3> Why not try the same process to get another permanent connection?
[20:09] <cynixx3> Hi
[20:10] <Alakasam> 5:10 pm in argentina now
[20:10] <fdsadfa> Can I just deactivate my current CoC signature and then re-sign it, or will that break something?
[20:10] <Alakasam> where are you from ?
[20:11] <Flannel> fdsadfa: Just sign it again, you don't need to deactivate the old one.
[20:11] <Flannel> fdsadfa: launchpad will keep track of the ones you've signed.
[20:11] <fdsadfa> Flannel, I don't see any directions on where to upload the new signed version
 connecting mouse does not prompt me for a passkey
[20:12] <Dondopa> it just connects
[20:12] <Dondopa> and it works temporarily before disconnecting again
[20:13] <cynixx3> I have to ask, But are the batteries really charged?
[20:13] <Dondopa> The battery is low
[20:13] <Dondopa> Do you think that has something to do with it?
[20:13] <Flannel> fdsadfa: fdsadfa https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto#Launchpad_Key_Signing has a link for where to upload it
[20:13] <Dondopa> Can low battery cause it to behave like that?
[20:14] <fdsadfa> Thanks Flannel
[20:14] <cynixx3> its very possible. as batteries decay they loose the ability to send a good signal. It may not be the problem your having but its a possibility.
[20:15] <Alakasam> the nick "Flannel" reminds me the simpsons episode The man in the blue flannel pants
[20:15] <cynixx3> if you connect the mouse to another computer does it work without problems?
[20:15] <cynixx3> Does the mouse go to auto sleep mode?
[20:16] <fdsadfa> Hey Flannel, sorry to bother you again, but when I try to clearsign the file, I get the message "You need a passphrase to unlock the secret key" but I'm not prompted for my passphrase
[20:16] <Dondopa> I connected it my laptop and it seemed to work fine.
[20:17] <cynixx3> So probably not a battery issue then.
[20:18] <Flannel> fdsadfa: Are you doing it in a terminal?
[20:18] <Dondopa> I am going to do another test with the laptop
[20:18] <fdsadfa> Flannel, yes
[20:18] <Dondopa> Maybe I concluded too son
[20:18] <Flannel> fdsadfa: That's strange.  It definitely should be asking you for a passphrase.  What's the command you're using?
[20:18] <fdsadfa> Flannel, "gpg --clearsign UbuntuCodeofConduct-2.0.txt"
[20:19] <fdsadfa> Flannel, I just noticed that it did create a file titled "ubuntuCodeOfConduct.txt.asc".  Is it possible that it worked?
[20:20] <fdsadfa> Flannel, looks like it did work after all
[20:20] <Flannel> fdsadfa: It is.  You could verify the signature.  I didn't think gpg had a password-cache thing, but maybe it does.
[20:20] <fdsadfa> Don't know what that error is about
[20:21] <fdsadfa> Flannel, thank you
[20:22] <Pwnna> does anyone here install with luks?
[20:22] <Pwnna> i'm getting stuck on choosing a secuirty key
[20:22] <Pwnna> it creates the partitions but doesn't move forward
[20:24] <fr-ub> hi
[20:25] <jseliga> Anyone running more than 2 monitors?
[20:27] <Alakasam> hi fr-ub
[20:28] <fr-ub> hi alakasam
[20:28] <rypervenche> Pwnna: Are you doing this manually or through the normal installer?
[20:29] <Pwnna> rypervenche: through the normal installer. erase disk and install. Doing it manually in the installer have the same effect
[20:29] <Pwnna> device /dev/sda5 not found in os-prober output
[20:29] <EiriksHDD> how  do I get rid of boot repair menu when I restart?
[20:30] <Pwnna> specifically, doing it manually in the installer gets stuck when i try to create the luks partition
[20:30] <EiriksHDD> I want to get rid of all grub, and boot repair and reinstall grub so it boots directly to ubuntu
[20:30] <cynixx3> EiriksHDD, you dont need to reinstall grub to do that.
[20:30] <cynixx3> just edit the boot options.
[20:31] <EiriksHDD> cynixx3, how do I do that?
[20:31] <fr-ub> is there any channel to talk about bash
[20:32] <EiriksHDD> I want to get rid of anything between BIOS and Ubuntu that isn't needed so I can have a the fastest boot possible, anyone know how to do that?
[20:33] <DJones> fr-ub: I think its ##bash
[20:33] <fr-ub> thanks Djones
[20:33] <cynixx3> EiriksHDD, here is a good grub article that will lead you on how to do many things: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[20:33] <EiriksHDD> right now my ubuntu is the only OS I have, and it's loading boot repair, then loading grub purple screen
[20:34] <root_> can i run a softether using wine
[20:34] <Bashing-om> EiriksHDD: Well, If you are aware and have some ability, there is the minimal install. I run an old dual core Athlon system and I boot in 5 seconds.
[20:34] <EiriksHDD> I just want to see it run BIOS, then go right into Ubuntu on my USB cus that's my HDD and I have no internal drive
[20:35] <EiriksHDD> I already have everything I ant installed, I am looking to speed up my boot
[20:35] <EiriksHDD> ant = want
[20:36] <Bashing-om> EiriksHDD: Nope, no can make fast, as the transfer speed across the bus for USB is slow .
[20:36] <EiriksHDD> i don't want to make that part fast, I want to make it boot the usb without sitting in grub for a while
[20:36] <tnli> Hiya, I noticed a weird bug, when I open the Google Chrome, I get a new instance of the icon on my doc, and it has a title of some ages old website on it when I hover the mouse over it, what's up?
[20:37] <tnli> I'm using ubuntu 14.04
[20:37] <root_> can i install softether vpn clinte using wine in ubuntu ..??
[20:37] <StickyRicky85> any big differences between chromium and chrome?
[20:37] <cynixx3> EiriksHDD, do you have grub booting directly to the use instead of trying to boot to a hdd?
[20:37] <cynixx3> chromium is a developers version.
[20:38] <EiriksHDD> yes, but it is hanging like it's trying to figure out where ubuntu is
[20:38] <EiriksHDD> then it figures it out
[20:38] <Bashing-om> EiriksHDD: The "timout" default in grub is 10 seconds, have you looked to see about editing that value in '/etc/default/grub' ?
[20:38] <EiriksHDD> Bashing-om, doing that now
[20:38] <sigrokBlack> hello
[20:39] <StickyRicky85> is it practical for a non-developer to use instead of chrome?
[20:39] <belgianguy> StickyRicky85: Chrome is from Google, Chromium is the open-source browser on which Chrome is based
[20:39] <root_> ??
[20:40] <EiriksHDD> what happens if I change grub default to 1
[20:40] <Bashing-om> EiriksHDD: Make backup 1st - SOP .. and DO not make the value '0'. As zero value no grub menu is diplayable and can then pressed problems.
[20:40] <root_> can i install softether vpn clinte using wine in ubuntu ..??
[20:40] <cynixx3> StickyRicky85, yes. its practical to use. Lots of fun features.
[20:40] <jseliga> Anyone using more than 2 monitors?
[20:40] <cynixx3> jseliga, just multiple workstations.
[20:40] <StickyRicky85> cool, i just didn't see chrome in software center but i know i can get it elsewhere.
[20:41] <StickyRicky85> ill give chromium a try for now.  seems like i tried it a couple years ago and couldn't get google maps to work
[20:41] <cynixx3> workspaces not workstations.
[20:41] <StickyRicky85> google earth*
[20:41] <root_> Can someone answer me pls ?
[20:42] <fr-ub> give it a try _root
[20:42] <cynixx3> root_, check the wine program compatibility list. wine works in ubutu.
[20:43] <jseliga> cynixx3, I can't seem to find any information about 3 or more monitors.  Everything I read says it's a hassle to get more than dual monitors working
[20:43] <cynixx3> jseliga, ya I have never tried 3 monitors. Getting that working would really depend on the video cards you have.
[20:44] <cynixx3> root_, check out this article https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers
[20:44] <jseliga> cynixx3, I don't have them yet, I'm looking to build new and am trying to plan accordingly
[20:46] <cynixx3> jseliga, check out the nvidia driver for ubuntu. Getting more than 2 is really going to depend on the vendor and their software. Your better off going with multiple workspace's on 2 monitors.
[20:46] <cynixx3> probably better*
[20:46] <fr-ub> vpn or vnc ???
[20:47] <cynixx3> ya I sent a link on the wrong topic.
[20:47] <root_> no problem , thanks any way
[20:48] <solsTiCe> root_: https://launchpad.net/~dajhorn/+archive/ubuntu/softether
[20:49] <fr-ub> well informed root_, so give it a try and make a feedback then
[20:50] <jseliga> cynixx3, thanks I'll keep checking back to see if anyone joins that is running it successfully
[20:51] <dajhorn> root_: The server must be installed natively (thanks, solsTiCe, for the plug).  The server manager runs perfectly in wine.
[20:51] <StickyRicky85> anybody familiar with "Hacking: The Art of Exploitation"??
[20:56] <Bicyclidine> OK, is there any good way to have the launcher and key switching (i.e. windows+1 switches to window 1 sorta thing) features of Unity, without Compiz? Because unity2d apparently stopped and a software rasterizer is not going to work on this machine.
[20:57] <p3rror> I have a remote server
[20:57] <p3rror> so I ran iptables -F
[20:58] <p3rror> now I dont have ssh connection
[20:58] <p3rror> I reboot the server from the hosting company interface
[20:58] <p3rror> and still not able to have ssh
[20:58] <p3rror> please can you help ?
[20:59] <cynixx3> Bicyclidine, Have you looked at the keyboard shortcut mapping?
[20:59] <smacktalk> so I did a sudo apt-get upgrade chrome and it's still on the same version
[20:59] <Bicyclidine> cynixx3: I don't know anything about that.
[20:59] <Bicyclidine> Oh, and the other thing is I'd like for windows to be fully maximized (I'm using gnome flashback metacity right now)
[20:59] <cynixx3> open the keyboard app and go to the shortcuts tab.
[20:59] <Bicyclidine> Looks good, thanks.
[21:00] <rypervenche> p3rror: If you can't telnet your SSH port, you might need to get console/KVM access to the remote server to fix it.
[21:01] <Bicyclidine> Anyway way I can make a keyboard shortcut "switch focus to browser or launch" instead of just launch?
[21:01] <rypervenche> p3rror: Your default policy is probably set to DROP and I guess it saved when you rebooted. You'll need console access to it to fx it.
[21:01] <Bashing-om> smacktalk:
[21:01] <Bashing-om> Google Chrome	39.0.2171.65 (Official Build) ; latest 'stable' build.
[21:02] <coder_> shadowe989 are u there?
[21:02] <smacktalk> it looked like it went through the upgrade process, but the browser says it's still on Version 35.0.1916.114
[21:04] <Bashing-om> smacktalk: Humm .. Google-chreome ? what have you for the version type in " /etc/apt/sources.list.d " 3rd party directory ?
[21:08] <p3rror> how to resert all iptables rules
[21:08] <smacktalk> it doesn't give any versions
[21:08] <p3rror> I ran iptables -F and I lost my ssh connection
[21:13] <Bashing-om> smacktalk: Mine: deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main . Where "stable main" is the 'version type' . Is your source similar ?
[21:14] <WyZeGuY> i have my required wifi driver http://d01.megashares.com/index.php?d01=r90pyfz -- everything tells me wifi's not loading http://d01.megashares.com/index.php?d01=N2uz0Kg and here http://d01.megashares.com/index.php?d01=anDsyC1 and here http://d01.megashares.com/index.php?d01=lw8UVCH and finally here http://d01.megashares.com/index.php?d01=oDNbp2S does anyone know how i can turn my ubuntu's...
[21:14] <WyZeGuY> ...wifi on? those images provide the output to wifi terminal inquiries, such as ifconfig, iwconfig, lsmod, lshw, etc...
[21:16] <kylep1408> hello i need help
[21:16] <WyZeGuY> with what?
[21:18] <Fazer2> hey, how do I set an environmental variable on Linux so that a GUI application can see it? I added export FOO=true to ~/.bashrc, but it doesn't work
[21:18] <WyZeGuY> 0_0
[21:18] <kylep1408> i have a radeon R7260X 2Gb graphics card and i want to know will this work with zorin 8.0 core?\
[21:19] <WyZeGuY> cynixx3?
[21:20] <smacktalk> when  I do an sudo update, i get the error  Duplicate sources.list entry http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages)
[21:20] <kylep1408> any ideas ?
[21:21] <WyZeGuY> ur more advanced than me. i was gonna answer if u were more of a newbie than me. better wait for cynixx3 to answer that one
[21:21] <rww> !derivatives | kylep1408
[21:22] <WyZeGuY> kylep1408: or you could PM him, he's very helpful and extremely knowledgeable
[21:22] <Bashing-om> smacktalk: Then insudre there are not 2 enties in the source(s) list file(s) . Check '/etc/apt/sources.list' file and in the directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d' that google-chrome only exists once.
[21:22] <cynixx3> WyZeGuY, i'm looking at your images.
[21:23] <kylep8479> i have a radeon R7260X 2Gb graphics card and i want to know will this work with zorin 8.0 core?\
[21:23] <WyZeGuY> kylep1408 oh never mind he's helping me first X-D yay! (but sorry)
[21:24] <kylep8479> is there a way i can make any graphics card compatible with zorin ?
[21:24] <kylep8479> .
[21:25] <WyZeGuY> kylep8479, just hold on a little bit
[21:25] <cynixx3> WyZeGuY, I really wish you would have pastebin'd these results. but give me a few more minutes to read these.
[21:25] <kylep8479> any help guys ?
[21:25] <k1l> kylep8479: ask the zorin guys
[21:25] <kylep8479> where are they ?
[21:25] <k1l> see at their homepage.
[21:26] <Flannel> kylep8479: their IRC channel is #zorinOS , but they also have forums, etc
[21:26] <kylep8479> thanks for the help
[21:26] <smacktalk> how do you remove one line from file
[21:27] <smacktalk> is it a sed command?
[21:27] <WyZeGuY> sorry cynixx3. i'm only recently trying to catch up on anything legitimately tech. once i get that set up, then hopefully i can delve deeper. but i'm exhausted with research and quite simply don't know. i will remember pastebin for the future
[21:28] <usr13> smacktalk: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4881930/bash-remove-the-last-line-from-a-file
[21:28] <cynixx3> WyZeGuY, its all good.
[21:29] <usr13> cynixx3: What is WyZeGuY trying to do?
[21:29] <nedal_> cynixx3, I can t figure out the difference between more and less !
[21:29] <cynixx3> enable a wifi driver.
[21:29] <WyZeGuY> usr13 set up wifi on my ubuntu 14.10 on asus q502la
[21:30] <WyZeGuY> intel 7260
[21:30] <cynixx3> its in his folder, but the network utils dont recognize wifi adapters at all.
[21:30] <usr13> Is that what lspci says?
[21:30] <usr13> WyZeGuY: lspci |grep ireless
[21:30] <p3rror> root@prod:~# service mysql stop
[21:30] <p3rror> stop: Unknown instance:
[21:30] <p3rror> why I get unknown instance
[21:31] <WyZeGuY> usr13 comes up blank
[21:31] <cynixx3> lspci is grep'd but it only shows the ethernet controller.
[21:31] <WyZeGuY> oh wait nvm
[21:32] <WyZeGuY> usr13 i added the "w" bcuz i thought you typo'd and it came up blank. when i typed it the wait you did it, it shows the Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 (rev cb)
[21:32] <WyZeGuY> but still won't enable
[21:33] <usr13> WyZeGuY: May need ndiswrapper
[21:33] <WyZeGuY> in my completely disorganized attempt at research (due to my ignorance), someone said something about patching by hand. must i do that?
[21:33] <Mongey> Anyone know how I can get SSH to start as soon as possible on boot ?
[21:33] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Does iwconfig show wlan0 ?
[21:33] <WyZeGuY> usr13: okay, then i will download that to my usb, plug it into my other computer, and make install ndiswrapper?
[21:34] <WyZeGuY> no, it doesn't
[21:34] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Just "No wireless extensions"
[21:34] <usr13> ?
[21:34] <WyZeGuY> yes, for both eth0 and lo
[21:35] <WyZeGuY> i've been running on a pot of coffee each night and some energy drinks in order to stay up for the last three nights, trying to figure this junk out
[21:36] <usr13> WyZeGuY: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1305305
[21:36] <WyZeGuY> don't need to go to wireless.kernel.org anymore, because i know the driver is in my folder
[21:36] <WyZeGuY> ok i'll look at that
[21:36] <rypervenche> Mongey: It should already start as soon as possible. What problem(s) are you having?
[21:36] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Just looking at discussions about it from 14.04 users
[21:37] <WyZeGuY> i'm running 14.10 though
[21:37] <WyZeGuY> and i've seen that page, but didn't know what to make of it.
[21:37] <Mongey> Just on boot, there seems to be a service that's starting before it and takes a really long time rypervenche
[21:37] <WyZeGuY> usr13: i mean, that person's wifi "keeps dropping" but at least it enables. mine isn't recognized at all.
[21:37] <usr13> WyZeGuY: I know, but may be some helpful information there.  I'm seeing that some users had it working but not working well.
[21:38] <WyZeGuY> usr13: i'm going to try your ndiswrapper suggestion
[21:38] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Yes... which indicates that the module was not working and has been dropped or taken out of the kernel maybe.  Is it a usb device?
[21:39] <WyZeGuY> no it's an intel wifi card
[21:39] <usr13> WyZeGuY: PCI?
[21:39] <SunStar> my ubuntu wont load a desktop.  it's just a blinking white cursor on black screen.   i used to be able to open a tty and startx and that would get me up and running, but now it won't open a console with ctrl + alt + f#. i know the system works at least somewhat because i have a lamp stack running and the sites are all up.  any ideas?
[21:39] <WyZeGuY> usr13: should be
[21:39] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Desktop computer?
[21:39] <WyZeGuY> laptop
[21:40] <usr13> !nomodeset | SunStar Maybe???
[21:41] <SunStar> t's already nomodeset
[21:41] <usr13> WyZeGuY: So it is probably mini-pci but you have yet to look at and see?
[21:42] <Bashing-om> SunStar: What GUI do you have installed ?
[21:42] <WyZeGuY> i'd have no idea how to tell
[21:42] <usr13> SunStar: Ctrl-Alt-F6  gets you a console ?
[21:43] <usr13> WyZeGuY: There's usually a couple of removable covers on the bottom.
[21:43] <SunStar> it used to. not any more usr13  and it's running xfce
[21:43] <WyZeGuY> usr13 oh this computer just has one large flat cover for the entire bottom
[21:43] <usr13> SunStar: DO you have a proprietary video driver installed?
[21:43] <SunStar> xorg
[21:44] <usr13> SunStar: THat's not what Im talking about.
[21:44] <jseliga> Anyone using more than dual monitors?
[21:44] <usr13> SunStar: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf  #What does that say?
[21:44] <SunStar> nothing shows up in the driver section of software updater so it shouldnt be
[21:44] <dmatt> jseliga: sometimes three, but in kubuntu
[21:45] <jseliga> dmatt what version?
[21:45] <dmatt> 14.04
[21:45] <jseliga> Everything I have read suggests it's a hassle to get setup
[21:46] <jseliga> dmatt, Did it work "out of the box" for you?
[21:46] <dmatt> jseliga: used to be, now is plain simple
[21:46] <dmatt> jseliga: yes
[21:46] <SunStar> oooo i can still ssh into it
[21:46] <jseliga> dmatt: Are you using one or two graphics cards?
[21:46] <dmatt> jseliga: one
[21:46] <usr13> SunStar: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf  #What does that say?
[21:47] <jseliga> dmatt: Have you had any success using more than one graphics card?
[21:47] <dmatt> jseliga: capable to output fo ť monitors :D
[21:47] <dmatt> 5
[21:47] <SunStar> not found
[21:47] <dmatt> jseliga: no
[21:47] <usr13> SunStar: lspci |grep VGA
[21:47] <jseliga> dmatt: Have you tried using more than one?
[21:48] <usr13> SunStar: (What is the video chip?)
[21:48] <dmatt> jseliga: I was not aware it was possible, and never had need to
[21:48] <SunStar> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200 Series]
[21:48] <cynixx3> WyZeGuY, can you run a cat dmesg | grep iwlwifi and pastebin it?
[21:48] <SunStar> ati xpress 400
[21:48] <SunStar> 200
[21:48] <jseliga> dmatt: Thanks
[21:49] <SunStar> the sticker on the tower says 400... ubuntu is reporting 200
[21:49] <WyZeGuY> cynixx3, yea, will have to transfer by usb then login so it'll be a moment
[21:49] <dmatt> jseliga: there is crossfire solutions, but that I believe shows as one graphic card, in what system is more cards at once supported?
[21:49] <Bashing-om> !manual
[21:50] <WyZeGuY> usr13, and i've copied the ndiswrapper tar gz to my ubuntu desktop, but i can't figure out how to install it
[21:51] <WyZeGuY> cynixx3, oh, no point in pasting it. comes up blank anyway
[21:51] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Wait.., It's not in the repos?
[21:51] <NixBox_Cisco> heey all
[21:51] <cynixx3> cat /var/log/dmesg |grep iwlwifi
[21:51] <jseliga> dmatt: I'm not sure, but I'm looking to build a quad monitor setup with two graphics cards.  In the Windows world it's plug-n-play, but I refuse to use that OS again.
[21:51] <NixBox_Cisco> trying to figure out if linux have remoteFX RDP clients
[21:52] <SunStar> it has plenty of RDP clients
[21:52] <WyZeGuY> cynixx3, also comes up blank
[21:52] <NixBox_Cisco> yes but do they support remotefx?
[21:53] <dmatt> jseliga: my notebook does 5 monitors, why two cards? do you develop games?
[21:54] <WyZeGuY> usr13: if having it in the computer's local repository means that "apt-get install ndiswrapper" returns "E: Unable to locate package ndiswrapper", then no, it's not in the repository\
[21:54] <usr13> WyZeGuY: How about: cat /var/log/dmesg |grep wifi
[21:54] <jseliga> Not many graphics cards have more than 3 outputs
[21:54] <Bashing-om> SunStar: Can you boot to terminal (TTY1) from the grub boot menu ? -> 'e' key for edit, and add 'text' to the kernel command line .
[21:54] <jseliga> dmatt: ^
[21:54] <WyZeGuY> usr13: that doesn't even return anything. just returns me down one, like i didn't type anything
[21:54] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Ok...
[21:55] <jseliga> dmatt: And the ones that do have different output types (1 HDMI, 1 DisplayPort, 1 VGA) on one card instead of a consistent type (3 HDMI)
[21:55] <cynixx3> WyZeGuY, its like your device is not fully plugged in or powered.
[21:55] <SunStar> the splash screen still works btw
[21:55] <WyZeGuY> usr13: apt-get install ndiswrapper attempts to build dependency tree, but doesn't locate ndiswrapper
[21:55] <usr13> SunStar: I may be on the wrong track.  When did you first see this problem?  Today?
[21:56] <cynixx3> WyZeGuY, I'm sorry but I really dont understand the problem and it seems to be over my head.
[21:56] <Bashing-om> SunStar: I hate to knock the server down, but I know of no other meaas to get to a terminal but to reboot .
[21:56] <WyZeGuY> cynixx3, well i haven't touched it since i installed ubuntu over win 8. i even replaced it back with win 8 enterprise eval to double check, and wifi came up, so i put it back to ubuntu, and it wouldn't read again
[21:56] <SunStar> i've been having the problem since firstboot.   in the past i just CTRL = ALT + F2 then startx. but CTRL + ALT + F# doesnt do anything anymore
[21:56] <SunStar> yeah thats fine
[21:56] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Are you 32bit or 64?
[21:56] <WyZeGuY> 64
[21:56] <SunStar> 64bit
[21:56] <usr13> Ok
[21:57] <usr13> WyZeGuY: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+package/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[21:57] <pwca> is there some painless way to update to 64bit?
[21:57] <SunStar> nope
[21:57] <pwca> I just want my files and configs mostly.
[21:58] <SunStar> pwca,  save your home folder into a folder called /bak then delete all the other fgolders and re-install
[21:58] <usr13> WyZeGuY: "You will also need the kernel module package.
[21:58] <WyZeGuY> usr13: i've already downloaded ndiswrapper and the extracted folder is sitting on my ubuntu desktop. i just don't know what to do with it
[21:58] <WyZeGuY> usr13: kernel module package haha i haven't learned what that is yet
[21:59] <dmatt> jseliga: I see... at this moment I would look for one card with 4 digital outputs for linux use ...
[21:59] <WyZeGuY> i'm trying to get it working first, so that as i'm sitting in the lounge at school i can study all this stuff and understand linux better. because i have loads of free time at school, but i need wifi for when i'm there
[22:00] <Bashing-om> pwca: Unless you have an excess of 4 gigs of ram, there is little profit in going 64 bit - and some small loss of performance .
[22:00] <pwca> Bashing-om: I am using software that requires 64bit.
[22:00] <WyZeGuY> usr13: then maybe in a few months i can be in your shoes, helping people in irc channels and writing tutorials :-P
[22:01] <Bashing-om> pwca: OK. Backup and (RE-)install the 64 bit version .
[22:01] <smacktalk> Bashing-om: I removed the extra entry in the  enties in the source(s) list'/etc/apt/sources.list' file and in the directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d
[22:01] <dmatt> jseliga: google shows there are some available
[22:01] <WyZeGuY> usr13: if i can understand it well enough, i want to start working on people's stuff, just going down the street and installing linux for people to replace windows. but do it stealthily hehehe be sneaky
[22:02] <smacktalk> still what now?  it's still coming up with the old version
[22:02] <usr13> WyZeGuY: What is the file-name?
[22:02] <WyZeGuY> usr13: (with the people's knowledge, but stay out of sight of the media)
[22:02] <WyZeGuY> usr13: the folder is called "ndiswrapper-1.59"
[22:03] <cerberus> hi
[22:03] <WyZeGuY> it has two subfolders, "driver" and "utils", along with an "INSTALL", "loadndisdriver.8", makefile, etc...
[22:03] <usr13> So, what is in it?
[22:03] <WyZeGuY> cerberus have you been on the irc with that username for several years now?
[22:03] <jseliga> dmatt: Does linux handle daisychaining DisplayPorts well?
[22:04] <Guest53265> no i just joined
[22:04] <curt> hi guys, I installed wine and it removed nvidia-libopencl-331 and now my drivers wont show up in additional drivers and prime is broken
[22:04] <curt> Ive tried reinstalling libopencl-331 and also purging and reinstalling nvidia-current
[22:04] <WyZeGuY> usr13: folder "driver", folder "utils", files: authors, changelog, install, loadndisdriver.8, makefile, ndiswrapper.8, ndiswrapper.spec, readme
[22:05] <Bashing-om> smacktalk: Don't know - yet - show us what is -> sudo apt-get update | pastebinit , sudo apt-get upgrade | pastebinit <- . see that the package manager is in a happy state.
[22:05] <dmatt> jseliga: don't know, I use separate connectors on my docking station
[22:06] <usr13> WyZeGuY: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[22:07] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: ndiswrapper isn't relevant for your situation, as i mentioned earlier today, you either need to compile a newer intel driver as per the link i provided or install a newer kernel
[22:08] <WyZeGuY> daftykins i installed ubuntu 14.10
[22:08] <usr13> WyZeGuY: You didn't try what daftykins suggested?
[22:08] <WyZeGuY> usr13: i did, i installed ubuntu 14.10 from 14.04
[22:08] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Were you on 14.04 earlier?
[22:08] <WyZeGuY> yes
[22:09] <usr13> Ok...
[22:09] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: that isn't doing either of my suggestions :)
[22:09] <WyZeGuY> daftykins: well then how to i "compile a newer intel driver" or newer kernel?
[22:09] <cynixx3> daftykins, WyZeGuY has the latest driver file.
[22:09] <curt> hey guys, after installing wine my nvidia drivers have up and dissapeared on me
[22:09] <daftykins> cynixx3: yes it's flawed.
[22:10] <daftykins> cynixx3: it doesn't factor in the revision of device
[22:10] <curt> wine made me remove nvidia-libopencl-331 ,ive tried reinstalling which didnt work
[22:10] <usr13> daftykins: Can you send the link again?
[22:10] <WyZeGuY> daftykins: so how do i factor in the revision of the device?
[22:10] <curt> also purging and reinstalling nvidia current didnt work
[22:10] <daftykins> no i've long since closed it.
[22:10] <cynixx3> okay.
[22:10] <neXyon> hi
[22:10] <daftykins> in fact i'm on a different computer now, let's see if i can't find it again
[22:10] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: you kind of just disappeared earlier
[22:11] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: also, earlier you claimed you were on 14.10 already?
[22:11] <neXyon> I'd like to setup a small home server to run email, files, pim data, web, etc. server daemons with the lowest possible energy consumption and budget, what hardware would you guys recommend? rasp pi?
[22:11] <WyZeGuY> daftykins: yea... my roommate was heading out for... church. sunday is the only day that i get to see my family and my truck is broke so i had to ride with him
[22:11] <WyZeGuY> daftykins: yea i let 14.10 install as i was at church
[22:12] <SunStar> hmmm   now i need to re-install.... it stopped booting up and i cant see what its doing. i think it's on the grub screen but i cant see anything. pressing enter does nothing
[22:12] <WyZeGuY> daftykins: 14.04 was installed earlier, then i tried running it live, wifi still didn't show up, so installed it to drive, and still didn't work
[22:12] <bubbasaures> neXyon, Love your plan, however this is ubuntu support on actual issues.
[22:12] <WyZeGuY> (running 14.10 live)
[22:13] <WyZeGuY> (now installed)
[22:13] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2242147&p=13112184#post13112184
[22:13] <neXyon> bubbasaures: oh ok, sorry
[22:13] <SunStar> neXyon,  a odroid U3:  http://liliputing.com/2013/12/odroid-u3-59-dev-board-with-the-power-of-a-galaxy-s3.html
[22:15] <usr13> WyZeGuY: dmesg | grep iw
[22:15] <bubbasaures> SunStar, Stick with your issue and please do not just post offtopic.
[22:15] <WyZeGuY> daftykins: i found that link a few days ago, but i didn't understand what it was telling me to do. i tried to follow instruction, but i haven't a clue
[22:15] <WyZeGuY> usr13: nothing
[22:16] <usr13> WyZeGuY: SO this is a fresh 14.10 install.  Right?
[22:16] <SunStar> my issue is my ubuntu now wont boot anymore
[22:16] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Is it fully updated?
[22:16] <SunStar> so i guess its time to give up and reinstall
[22:16] <WyZeGuY> usr13: installed as of this morning. can't say it's fully updated because it hasn't connected to the internet
[22:16] <cynixx3> SunStar, boot a rescue disk and run a memtest before you reinstall
[22:16] <daftykins> usr13: i think the driver that's been updated to work with more revision numbers only exists in a 3.18+ kernel
[22:17] <usr13> WyZeGuY: If not, plug into wired internet connection and do all updates:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:18] <WyZeGuY> usr13: that's what i said earlier, i took it to my ethernet cable, network manager blinked and tried to activate, but never turned on, and just went blank again. i'm going to try doing this kernel upgrade instruction thing again
[22:18] <Bashing-om> SunStar: There are those times that (RE-(install is the better solution. However, presently all we have is "not booting" and prior upgrade Google-Chrome. Right, just small things ?
[22:18] <usr13> WyZeGuY: I think you should get updated first.
[22:18] <Guest64764> ciao a tutti
[22:18] <Guest64764> !list
[22:18] <WyZeGuY> usr13: how do i get updated if i can't get internet?
[22:19] <daftykins> WyZeGuY: your wired interface is working fine.
[22:19] <SunStar> well thats all i have. i turn it on, the BIOS does it's thing then it's just a black screen. no drive activity so it's not trying to load anything
[22:20] <usr13> WyZeGuY: If you can get hold of a  wireless bridge or a USB WiFi adapter, or have another PC do ICS and connect to it.... etc. etc.
[22:20] <WyZeGuY> daftykins: not according to my computer, when i plug the ethernet cable in. unless i did that wrong too. i unplugged it from the wifi router and plugged it into my computer. it tried to load and gave up
[22:20] <WyZeGuY> usr13: wireless bridge works through bluetooth?
[22:20] <cynixx3> WyZeGuY, can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[22:20] <usr13> WyZeGuY: No.
[22:21] <usr13> WyZeGuY: DO you have an ethernet cable?
[22:21] <WyZeGuY> cynixx3: yes, it's going now
[22:21] <WyZeGuY> cynixx3: it's pinging
[22:21] <cynixx3> okay nvm
[22:21] <Bashing-om> SunStar: Yuk, How much bother is it to (RE-)install ? ( maybe we can boot the install from the liveDVD ?)
[22:21] <WyZeGuY> usr13: the ethernet cable is what plugs into the wifi router, right?
[22:22] <WyZeGuY> usr13: (sorry) i only have general self-taught knowledge and no real class knowledge.
[22:22] <cynixx3> WyZeGuY, yes the non power cord.
[22:22] <usr13> daftykins: So what is the default kernel for a 14.10 install?
[22:22] <usr13> WyZeGuY: network cable = ethernet cable
[22:22] <WyZeGuY> usr13: well not really self-taught. a lot of talking with other people online and experimenting
[22:22] <daftykins> 3.14 maybe? i don't have the vaguest clue
[22:23] <usr13> WyZeGuY: It's ok... you are learning...
[22:23] <cynixx3> I'm still learning . . .
[22:23] <WyZeGuY> usr13: cynixx3: when i take that laptop to the wifi router, unplug the wifi router, and plug the cable into my computer, the network manager icon at the top-right starts flickering, which seems to be an improvement, but actually, it gives up after a couple minutes and says "Network disconnected"
[22:24] <cynixx3> usr13, think its a crossover cable?
[22:24] <smacktalk> ok...got chrome upgraded to v.39...
[22:25] <WyZeGuY> the ethernet cable plugs into a Motorola device, which then plugs into the wifi router
[22:25] <smacktalk> still doesn't work with netflix
[22:25] <smacktalk> sheesh!
[22:25] <Bashing-om> smacktalk: :) , What was holding the upgrade back ?
[22:25] <daftykins> cynixx3: look up auto MDI/MDI-X
[22:25] <usr13> daftykins: Looks like 3.17 or 3.16 ?    What does uname -r say?
[22:27] <daftykins> please don't bring religion in here.
[22:27] <WyZeGuY> 3.16.0-23-generic
[22:27] <cynixx3> WyZeGuY, if you run ifconfig, does eth0 have a 169. address?
[22:28] <WyZeGuY> eth0 looks like it has a mac address
[22:28] <WyZeGuY> lo has an inet address
[22:28] <WyZeGuY> lo has <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:28] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Do you have a network cable plugged into your router?
[22:28] <cynixx3> your laptop should be plugged into the modem / router. and your eth0 has no IP address?
[22:29] <usr13> WyZeGuY: Look at the eth0 section, (from ifconfig output).
[22:29] <WyZeGuY> no it's not plugged in right now. the router is in my roommate's room
[22:29] <WyZeGuY> should i plug it in and report back?