[02:52] <Gusj> tomreyn: Hi there Tom, I wanted to ask you, how was it that you and TJ- left me an offline message that one time? I found instructions for another server but not for freenode, I wanted to leave TJ- a msg
[02:57] <Bashing-om> Gusj: I see and respond. Do '/msg memoserv send TJ- <message> '.
[02:57] <Unit193> Or perhaps more specifically, /msg MemoServ help send
[02:58] <Gusj> thank you Bashing-om and Unit193
[03:02] <Gusj> Been struggling with a Toshiba Laptop not recognizing keyboard and trackpad, tried many many MANY solutions without luck, but recently found this : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting/Keycodes
[03:03] <Gusj> apparently There is something called a "knock sequence" which I need, when I try the listen command and Xev, only 4 keys output anything.. what I mainly need is the keyboard not the trackpad..
[03:04] <Gusj> TJ- suggested that I would have to recompile the kernel, with some toshiba Options that I apparently need, but on that link I pasted, there are 3 utils that they mention, I know from lots of testing with TJ, Tomreyen and myself that the bug is in the kernel
[03:09] <tomreyn> had you tried eleting nvram by pressing the power button for 15 seconds?
[03:09] <tomreyn> *deleting
[03:10] <tomreyn> i have bad memory, but somehow i seem to recall that this is something that was suggested for your system, Gusj
[03:11] <Gusj> tomreyn: Hola Tom, yes have tried that, pressed it once for 2 full minutes, and followed the directions to go into bios and reset to default, etc.. without luck, but if you see that link I posted here, it is very specific to my issue
[03:12] <Gusj> acpi_listen comm xev
[03:12] <Gusj> tomreyn: I tried the acpi_listen and xev commands, and the only keys that work are the Fn+bright up and down, and Fn+wifi on/off those are hte only ones that emit any info with cpi listne and xev
[03:13] <tomreyn> ah righnt this fnfx daemon is what you had
[03:13] <tomreyn> but this seemed to be just about multimedia keys
[03:14] <Gusj> tomreyn: In that link, the section that says especifically "Modern BIOSes and keyboards" in the wiki ubuntu about keycodes' they mention these 3 apps
[03:14] <tomreyn> yes thats what i just read
[03:14] <Gusj> One of them is that one you remember, FnFX, which was installed by default but could not work becayse there needed ot be some parameters in the kernel for it to work,
[03:14] <tomreyn> but wasnt your issue that the keyboard didnt work in general?
[03:14] <Gusj> tomreyn: the other 2 mentioned here, I have not trried to install " omke, FreeZeeButtons, and fnfx"
[03:16] <Gusj> tomreyn: No Tom, it wokrs pefectly in the bios and in grub, both trackpad and kybd, and then not in the system, the only way UI have gotten 4 keys to work, brightess,FN+Wifi is through some specific grub parameters that I have included in the grub file after trying about 1,000 lol
[03:16] <Gusj> tomreyn: Have narrowed it down to 4 commands to not have thekybd freeze complete but only those 4 keys work, and emit anyhitng on Xev
[03:17] <tomreyn> hmm, an interesting puzzel indeed.
[03:17] <tomreyn> *puzzle
[03:17] <tomreyn> i guess i'm a lazy old person who just likes things to work too much,  would probably just sell and replace it by something that works OOTB
[03:18] <Gusj> tomreyn: I know this is old tom, abd I had just given up, but I would like to try and recompile the kernel, with those options on for the Fnfx to work, just to try...
[03:19] <Gusj> not I have these 2 other apps apart from Fxfn to try, ==> omke, FreeZeeButtons, and fnfx
[03:20] <Gusj> tomreyn: IF it does not work after that I will give up.. but I will send an offline msg to TJ- to see if he could guide me into trying these alternatives, really lost in the procedure of recompiling the kernel with options on..
[03:21] <Gusj> tomreyn: Even in Synaptic package Manager, the Fxfn says that some options need to be enabled in the kernel for that app to work, but I honestly do not understand is that that app is called fnfx:i386 in synaptic but my system, is 64bit
[03:23] <Gusj> tomreyn: I do not know, maybe the other 2 apps work.. on that ubuntu wiki link, it is the first time i see it so clearly, they start going down from the outer layer to the inner
[03:23] <tomreyn> the dameon only builds on i386, i guess, not amd64
[03:23] <Gusj> tomreyn: "If a key is pressed, but no information is displayed in /var/log/kern.log, showkey, or xev, your laptop probably requires a "knock sequence.""
[03:24] <Gusj> tomreyn: So even If i do reocmpile the kernel with the fxfn:i386 parameters that it asks for in the kernel, it would not work for me?
[03:24] <tomreyn> that's also news to me, hadn't heard such before either
[03:24] <tomreyn> freezeebutton_1.0-1.tar.gz seems to have vanished off the internet since
[03:25] <Gusj> tomreyn: yes FreeZeeButtons seems gone :(
[03:28] <Gusj> tomreyn: but the Omnibook Configuration Tools & Patches, the other app 'omke' is avaliable
[03:29] <Gusj> tomreyn: will search for it in synaptic to see if it shows up in there.., to see what is the more current version, in synaptic or on that website linked in the ubuntu wiki, is this correct Tom?
[03:34] <tomreyn> thats generally a good approach IMO
[03:34] <Gusj> tomreyn: I have since changed form Lubuntu to Xubuntu 18.04 lts first then recently from 19.04 and then to 19.10 and I am really loving it
[03:34] <Gusj> tomreyn: thank you
[03:35] <Gusj> tomreyn: Since my most recent install of 19.04 I have not done what i did in 18.04 "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack"
[03:35] <Gusj> tomreyn: a user about a month ago and a half ago  when I started with these issues suggested it to me
[03:36] <Gusj> is this a good idea?
[03:37] <tomreyn> i'm not sure i'm getting the question. LTSE is only available on LTS releases. 19.04 is not an LTS release.
[03:38] <tomreyn> nor is 19.10.
[03:38] <tomreyn> i'm sure others can also answer these questions, so there's no strict need to keep highlighting me ;)
[03:39] <Gusj> ahh ok thank you.. I know I have acpi installed I have 'toshiba_acpi, when I do modprobe and see it
[03:39] <Gusj> I am aiming for the keyboard, I don't mind carrying a mouse, but if the keyboard works that would be amazing!
[04:56] <Regor> is there any better tool than youtube-dl ? i am  using it but often i get errors so i want to try something similar to youtube-dl
[04:56] <Unit193> I guess it depends on what you want to do specifically, but ytdl is pretty good at what it does.
[04:59] <well_laid_lawn> the only time youtube-dl doesn't work here is when there is network issues - wifi busy or isp is busy
[05:03] <Unit193> I have a locally packaged version so it's more up to date, but otherwise..
[05:13] <Regor> ok i would check that
[06:20] <xubuntu95w> Hi!
[06:21] <xubuntu95w> I have a problem with the brightness on xubuntu 18.04 32 bits
[06:23] <xubuntu95w> Brightness is always 100%, And i can't  regulate him. Thanks for the help (And sorry for my bad english😄) )
[07:41] <EvaristeGalois> How come some programs that autostart on boot do not appear in the system tray sometimes
[07:41] <EvaristeGalois> even though it's running
[09:13] <brainwash> EvaristeGalois: does reloading the panel fix the problem? xfce4-panel -r
[09:14] <brainwash> EvaristeGalois: some things regarding session start have been fixed in Xfce 4.14
[10:10] <medo> hello guys
[10:10] <medo> how i can know that intel driver is installed ?
[10:12] <diogenes_> kingkings, it is installed.
[10:13] <kingkings> how to make sure
[10:13] <kingkings> because i cant run blender
[10:13] <diogenes_> lsmod | grep i915
[10:14] <diogenes_> also run: glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer"
[10:14] <diogenes_> paste here the result.
[10:14] <kingkings> glxinfoname of display: :0.0display: :0  screen: 0direct rendering: Yesserver glx vendor string: SGIserver glx version string: 1.4server glx extensions:    GLX_ARB_create_context, GLX_ARB_create_context_no_error,     GLX_ARB_create_context_profile, GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float,     GLX_ARB_framebuffer_sRGB, GLX_ARB_multisample,
[10:14] <kingkings> GLX_EXT_create_context_es2_profile, GLX_EXT_create_context_es_profile,     GLX_EXT_fbconfig_packed_float, GLX_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB,     GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_libglvnd, GLX_EXT_no_config_context,     GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,     GLX_INTEL_swap_event, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer,
[10:14] <kingkings> GLX_OML_swap_method,     GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer,     GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_SGI_make_current_read,     GLX_SGI_swap_controlclient glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGIclient glx version string: 1.4client glx extensions:    GLX_ARB_context_flush_control, GLX_ARB_create_context,
[10:14] <kingkings> GLX_ARB_create_context_profile, GLX_ARB_create_context_robustness,     GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float, GLX_ARB_framebuffer_sRGB,     GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_buffer_age,     GLX_EXT_create_context_es2_profile, GLX_EXT_create_context_es_profile,     GLX_EXT_fbconfig_packed_float, GLX_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB,
[10:14] <kingkings> GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_EXT_visual_info,     GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_INTEL_swap_event, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer,     GLX_MESA_multithread_makecurrent, GLX_MESA_query_renderer,     GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_OML_sync_control,     GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig, GLX_SGIX_pbuffer,
[10:14] <kingkings> GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group, GLX_SGI_make_current_read,     GLX_SGI_swap_control, GLX_SGI_video_syncGLX version: 1.4GLX extensions:    GLX_ARB_create_context, GLX_ARB_create_context_profile,     GLX_ARB_fbconfig_float, GLX_ARB_framebuffer_sRGB,     GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample,     GLX_EXT_create_context_es2_profile,
[10:14] <kingkings> GLX_EXT_create_context_es_profile,     GLX_EXT_fbconfig_packed_float, GLX_EXT_framebuffer_sRGB,     GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap, GLX_EXT_visual_info,     GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_INTEL_swap_event, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer,     GLX_MESA_query_renderer, GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_OML_swap_method,     GLX_OML_sync_control,
[10:15] <diogenes_> omg
[10:15] <diogenes_> stop, and please run thge c
[10:15] <diogenes_> the commands with maximum accuracy.
[10:15] <diogenes_> you didn't run the command i gave.
[13:17] <Regor> how to make pasted files look selected so i can pick them from download folder easily ?
[13:21] <diogenes_> Regor, after you copy and paste some files, after they are done pasted, they are automatically selected (if in the meantime you don't swhitch the windows around).
[13:35] <Regor> yeah..i see that .. if download folder opened simultaneously then this happens !
[13:41] <Regor> also when i access file through firefox " open containing folder" i dont see shaded files .
[14:09] <xubuntu40w> TRANSITION FROM WINDOWS XP TO XUBUNTUS...  WORTH IT OR NOT?
[14:10] <GridCube> >asking the xubuntu irc channel
[14:11] <sublevel> winxp has lots of unpatched vulnerabilities, you should definitely upgrade to *something*
[14:11] <diogenes_> xubuntu40w, with capslocks: YES IT"S MORE THAN WORTH.
[14:12] <GridCube> yeah also that xp is like 20 years old already
[14:14] <xubuntu40w> thank you /  did not notice my cap lock was on,  sorry.     Have an older computer at work , not networked with the others and wanted to download an affordable operating system as XP is no longer working efficiently.  am hoping that this is a great alternative as the computer is seldom used but when is used it  is mostly for searches on the
[14:14] <xubuntu40w> internet
[14:15] <diogenes_> great choice.
[14:16] <xubuntu40w> is the transition difficult,  in other words can someone, familiar but not an expert be successful in downloading
[14:17] <xubuntu40w> also,  does one need to save any files to an outside source before downloading?
[14:17] <diogenes_> xubuntu40w, btw you can try xubuntu with two click right now right into your browser without any installation needed: https://distrotest.net/Xubuntu
[14:17] <xubuntu40w> awesome I will definitely do that
[14:18] <xubuntu40w> thank you for the link
[14:18] <diogenes_> and it's always advicable to backup all your important data before doing any kinds of operations with your computer.
[14:18] <diogenes_> there is a saying that: "The data that was not backed up is not an important data".
[14:21] <xubuntu40w> thank you again;   understood,  better safe than sorry
[15:00] <xubuntu40w> what is happening if I go to the trial site and all I get is a black screen?
[15:01] <xubuntu40w> I have tried different versions and am getting the same result
[15:08] <xubuntu81w> I've got a question about Thunderbird. I did a fresh install of Xubuntu 18.04 yesterday but things weren't quite working right: I couldn't get my backups with deja-dup working, I had screen tearing, and I couldn't sign in with Thunderbird. So I did decided to do a fresh install with 19.10 instead and things are working great, only I still can't
[15:08] <xubuntu81w> sign in with Thunderbird.
[15:09] <xubuntu81w> I keep getting an error on trying to connect Thunderbird with Gmail, but always get the error of something wrong with configuration or username or password.
[15:10] <xubuntu81w> I was on with Google for an hour this morning going through their troubleshooting procedures, but nothing changed. Is there any way to get my Gmail connect through Thunderbird?
[15:15] <saor> xubuntu81w: Do you have MFA enabled?
[15:15] <xubuntu81w> What's MFA?
[15:16] <saor> Multi Factor Auth
[15:16] <saor> aka 2FA, do you enter a code to login to gmail?
[15:16] <xubuntu81w> I don't. I tried that and adding an app password, but still no luck
[15:17] <saor> Shoot thats all i had for ya ;)
[15:17] <xubuntu81w> No worries!
[16:14] <tomreyn> xubuntu81w: https://wiki.mozilla.org/MailNews:Logging
[16:21] <tomreyn> actually gmail may not be imap anymore (not sure), at least for the authentication, but rather http - see https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Debugging/HTTP_logging#Logging_HTTP_activity_by_manually_setting_environment_variables
[19:09] <Akita> Hello all
[19:11] <Akita> Is there someone who knows about xubuntu, steam, ds4drv and the ps4 controller? .... It seems I am unable to connect it via bluetooth properly, but wired it works
[21:15] <xubuntu81w> tomreyn I was able to get things working. I gave it an app password, but had to change the sort of authorization Thunderbird defaults to. I just had to select "Normal Password" for getting access
[22:43] <Noboru55> Hello everybody
[22:43] <Noboru55> I was using the laptop on battery and when Xubuntu reached the critical battery level the system crashed. I had to restart hard


 You can use it like this:
[16:58] <QA>   nickometer [<nick>] [with reasons]
[16:58] <ruhshan> I'm currently in sylhet
[16:58] <z4ki> ruhshan: oky
[16:58] <ruhshan> nickometer [ruhshan]
[16:59] <z4ki> u-la-la: nickometer ruhshan
[16:59] <u-la-la> z4ki: ruhshan is 0.0% lame
[16:59] <ruhshan> nickometer z4ki
[16:59] <ruhshan> how?
[17:00] <z4ki> ruhshan: ^
[17:00] <z4ki> see how i did that
[17:00] <z4ki> ruhshan: you use ubuntu?
[17:00] <ruhshan> xubuntu
[17:00] <z4ki> u-la-la: coffee on
[17:00]  * u-la-la washes some mugs
[17:01] <z4ki> how is it ruhshan? i use kubuntu
[17:01] <ruhshan> I use on a netbook.
[17:01] <ruhshan> Its really fast
[17:02] <ruhshan> Just gets thermal shutdown if I play video
[17:02] <z4ki> hmm and?
[17:02] <z4ki> hmmm
[17:02] <ruhshan> And...  Asus x101ch
[17:18] <z4ki> ruhshan: what client u are using?
[17:18] <z4ki> irc client*
[17:19] <AudaciousTUX> z4ki: good :)
[17:19] <ruhshan> kiwiirc
[17:19] <Tuhin> ruhshan, my nice also have a netbook with Atom CPU, i lowered her youtube resolution to 240 or 360 and it runs cooler
[17:20] <Tuhin> also dont use it on cloth, make sure there is enough space under the netbook, can use a cooling pad
[17:20] <Tuhin> many people damages laptops by using on bedsheet which blocks all air intake
[17:22] <z4ki> Tuhin: (y)
[17:22] <ruhshan> Yea, I do that too when youtube. But have to keep myself distant from watching movies, or have to download low res.
[17:23] <ruhshan> Anyway, it's not a big deal. I'm not that much of a watcher :)
[17:23] <Tuhin> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzOk5RDlcqU
[17:24] <Tuhin> Sorry to say that atom cpus r not good  :|
[17:24] <ruhshan> They are the way they are :p
[17:24] <Tuhin> dont know what intel was thinking when they built atoms....
[17:25] <ruhshan> ha ha ha
[17:25] <Tuhin> AMD E350 which was lower cost than atoms, performs beter
[17:25] <Tuhin> better*
[17:26] <Tuhin> it have built in GPU acceleration which offloads work from CPU when playing youtube/games
[17:26] <ruhshan> But I've heard amd based mainboards have some issues, like with wifi driver
[17:26] <Tuhin> all my desktops since 1998 are AMD
[17:26] <Tuhin> 4th AMD desktop now
[17:26] <ruhshan> Wow!
[17:27] <Tuhin> bought back in 2009 and can run anything
[17:27] <z4ki> Tuhin: my one also amd
[17:27] <z4ki> ruhshan: http://www.ircbeginner.com/ you can follow this
[17:28] <ruhshan> thanks
[17:28] <Tuhin> its mainboard supports 32GB RAM but manual says it will support max 16GB..... i tried and found it can accept 32GB
[17:28] <Tuhin> what cpu z4ki ?
[17:29] <z4ki> Sysinfo for 'zaki-Satellite-C800D': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.5.5 on Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS (Xenial Xerus) powered by Linux 4.4.0-47-generic, CPU: AMD E2-1800 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics at 1700 MHz, RAM: 2286/2621 MB, Storage: 34/72 GB, 204 procs, 1.91h up
[17:29] <Tuhin> Mine is Phenom2 x3 and i unlocked the 4th core .... so its now Quad Core
[17:29] <Tuhin> how much RAM?
[17:30] <Tuhin> loks like it can run long on battery
[17:30] <z4ki> 3 gb :(
[17:30] <z4ki> real long :P
[17:34] <z4ki> ruhshan: To register your nickname, use the following syntax:
[17:34] <z4ki> "/msg NickServ REGISTER password email "
[17:34] <z4ki> Example: /msg NickServ REGISTER mypassword<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:34] <Tuhin> not here
[17:34] <Tuhin> make sure u do it in freenode tab
[17:34] <ruhshan> where?
[17:35] <z4ki> in freenod tab
[17:35] <z4ki> :D
[17:35] <ruhshan> okay
[17:35] <z4ki> e*
[17:36] <z4ki> and you will get a confermation code in you email copy and paste that in freenode tab
[17:36] <ruhshan> registered :)
[17:37] <z4ki> ruhshan: kiwi irc webui?
[17:37] <ruhshan> yep, is there any desktop client?
[17:37] <z4ki> yes it's good to use permanent client
[17:38] <z4ki> desktop client like hexchat or xchat
[17:38] <ruhshan> i have xchat installed
[17:38] <ruhshan> how do i add this channel?
[17:39] <z4ki> open x chat and try
[17:40] <ruhshan_> hello from xchat
[17:40] <Tuhin> welcome
[17:40] <ruhshan_> cool!
[17:40] <z4ki> now close kiwi
[17:40] <z4ki> and type /nick rushan
[17:40] <z4ki> oky
[17:40] <Tuhin> which package u use ruhshan_ ?
[17:41] <Tuhin> @ banglalionwimax
[17:41] <z4ki> ruhshan: your ip saying you are in rajsahi
[17:41] <z4ki> :p :D
[17:42] <z4ki> pavlushka: ping
[17:42] <ruhshan> Sometimes says khulna too
[17:42] <z4ki> lol
[17:42] <ruhshan>  /msg NickServ identify biovoid
[17:42] <Tuhin> hmm i was a banglalion user
[17:43] <Tuhin> they sends me new better offer to go back to them 2-3 times ev month
[17:43] <z4ki> ruhshan: there should be server editing option in your irc client o. open that and configure that for future use
[17:44] <z4ki> ruhshan: run every command in freenode tab. that way your password will be safe from us :P
[17:45] <pavlushka> z4ki: pong
[17:45] <pavlushka> Hello Tuhin :)
[17:45] <Tuhin> Hello
[17:46] <z4ki> pavlushka: pong pong
[17:46] <z4ki> pavlushka: we have ruhshan here
[17:46] <z4ki> and Tuhin :)
[17:47] <pavlushka> z4ki: I suppose Tuhin is almost regular here, not new :p
[17:47] <pavlushka> as the other
[17:47] <Tuhin> I just forget to open IRC program
[17:48] <z4ki> pavlushka: roger that
[17:49] <pavlushka> z4ki: who is roger? I know only tango :p
[17:50] <pavlushka> ruhshan: is your password biovoid?
[17:50] <ruhshan> how fool i am
[17:51] <z4ki> pavlushka: victor and whiskey ?
[17:51] <z4ki> lol
[17:51] <Tuhin> ruhshan, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzOk5RDlcqU
[17:52] <pavlushka> Tuhin: how is your niece?
[17:52] <z4ki> ruhshan: run every command in freenode tab. that way your password will be safe from us :P
[17:52] <Tuhin> she got biten by mosquito
[17:52] <Tuhin> on her right cheek
[17:52] <Tuhin> now she made it big .....
[17:52] <z4ki> Tuhin: same here :/
[17:53] <Tuhin> btw i was teling all since last 1+year that if there is no election fraud , trump will win
[17:54] <z4ki> they always made those big
[17:54] <Tuhin> so i m going to send that song link to them :P
[17:54] <ruhshan> Hmm
[17:54] <ruhshan> changed that now
[17:57] <pavlushka> Tuhin: how come she made it big, the mosquito bite? :)
[17:57] <Tuhin> by itching while watching cartoon @ youtube
[17:57] <pavlushka> oh my
[17:57] <z4ki> ruhshan: now ask in #freenode for an unaffiliated cloak
[17:58] <ruhshan> what is that?
[17:58] <z4ki> your nick need a very big cover/box
[17:58] <z4ki> i mean cloak
[18:00] <z4ki> like that one harry potter used in Philosopher's stone
[18:01] <Tuhin> to hide ip
[18:01] <z4ki> yes
[18:02] <ruhshan> hmm, asked one staff
[18:02] <z4ki> ruhshan: join #freenode and ask there for a cloak
[18:02] <z4ki> ruhshan: good
[18:05] <z4ki> ruhshan: wher do u study?
[18:05] <z4ki> where*
[18:05] <ruhshan> SUST
[18:05] <ruhshan> u?
[18:06] <z4ki> u-la-la: coffee on
[18:06]  * u-la-la washes some mugs
[18:06] <z4ki> PCIU
[18:07] <z4ki> u-la-la: coffee large
[18:07] <u-la-la> z4ki: What?
[18:07] <z4ki> got it
[18:07] <z4ki> i need QA
[18:07] <z4ki> QA: coffee on
[18:07]  * QA flips the salt-timer
[18:08] <z4ki> QA: coffee large
[18:08] <QA> z4ki: What?
[18:08] <z4ki> :3
[18:08] <z4ki> wb pavlushka
[18:09] <z4ki> wb  ruhshan
[18:09] <z4ki> congratulation ruhshan
[18:09] <z4ki> u-la-la: nickometer JediKnight
[18:09] <u-la-la> z4ki: JediKnight is 37.1% lame
[18:09] <ruhshan> Hey how do you know what I'm doing? :P
[18:10] <z4ki> Tuhin: u-la-la can help us play a game
[18:10] <pavlushka> thanks z4ki
[18:10] <u-la-la> Coffee's ready for z4ki!
[18:11] <Tuhin> hm
[18:11] <z4ki> u-la-la: thank you
[18:11] <u-la-la> z4ki: np
[18:11] <z4ki> u-la-la: how do i use werewolf
[18:11] <u-la-la> z4ki: Play the werewolf game. Channel becomes a village containing a werewolf, seer and villagers. Every night, the werewolf can kill a villager, and the seer can test a villager for werewolf symptoms. Villagers then vote to lynch a wolf during the day.
[18:11] <u-la-la> You can use it like this:
[18:11] <u-la-la>   start a game of werewolf
[18:11] <u-la-la>   join
[18:11] <u-la-la>   ( kill | see | eat ) <villager>
[18:11] <u-la-la>   vote for <villager>
[18:11] <QA> u-la-la: Sorry, no poll in progress
[18:11] <u-la-la> QA: What?
[18:11] <QA> u-la-la: *blink*
[18:11] <pavlushka> u-la-la: coffee on
[18:11] <u-la-la> QA: Huh?
[18:11] <QA> u-la-la: Huh?
[18:11]  * u-la-la puts the kettle on
[18:11] <u-la-la> QA: Huh?
[18:11] <QA> u-la-la: Huh?
[18:11] <u-la-la> QA: Sorry...
[18:11] <QA> u-la-la: Huh?
[18:11] <u-la-la> QA: Sorry...
[18:11] <QA> u-la-la: Huh?
[18:11] <u-la-la> Geez, give me some time to think!
[18:11] <QA> Coffee's ready for z4ki!
[18:12] <pavlushka> u-la-la: coffee on
[18:12] <u-la-la> pavlushka: You already have a pot on the go
[18:12] <pavlushka> u-la-la: large
[18:12] <u-la-la> pavlushka: Huh?
[18:12] <z4ki> pavlushka: see something? how bot can fight to each other?
[18:12] <z4ki> :p
[18:12] <pavlushka> u-la-la: make it large
[18:12] <u-la-la> pavlushka: Huh?
[18:12] <pavlushka> u-la-la: coffee large
[18:12] <u-la-la> pavlushka: Sorry...
[18:13] <Tuhin> one of my favorite game is "Rise of Nations"
[18:14] <AudaciousTUX> 0ad <3
[18:14] <z4ki> hmmm
[18:15] <Tuhin> yeah 0ad is v good too
[18:15] <u-la-la> Coffee's ready for pavlushka!
[18:15] <pavlushka> u-la-la: thanks
[18:15] <u-la-la> no worries, pavlushka
[18:15] <Tuhin> another is "Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance"
[18:17] <ruhshan> I used to play call of duty once...
[18:18] <z4ki> supreme commander Aladin
[18:18] <Tuhin> lol
[18:18] <ruhshan> Admiral general
[18:21] <Tuhin> oh is that a movie? didn't know that
[18:24] <z4ki> Tuhin: yes it is
[18:24] <z4ki> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dictator_(2012_film)
[18:29] <Tuhin> yes found that
[18:45] <z4ki> good night


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[11:20] <Cantide> tried a live CD of 12.04 - everything renders as white squares
[11:20] <Cantide> rendering it unusable (pun intended)
[11:20] <Cantide> is this a unity problem?
[11:37] <seb128> Cantide, hi, no, likely a corrupted CD or something
[11:38] <seb128> Cantide, the fonts are handled by freetype,pango
[11:44] <Cantide> hmm
[11:44] <Cantide> i installed off this CD myself
[11:44] <Cantide> on my own PC, and it worked fine
[11:44] <seb128> weird, does it do it in a consistant way?
[11:44] <seb128> or is that a 1 time thing?
[11:44] <Cantide> perhaps there is something wrong with the other PC - because i just tried a 10.10 live CD and that had awful lines everywhere
[11:45] <Cantide> it's consistent
[11:45] <Cantide> i tried it twice and got those white blocks where it was trying to draw things
[11:45] <Cantide> for example, the notifications were blank, white squares
[11:45] <seb128> ok, dunno then, maybe something with the hardware or drivers
[11:45] <seb128> video drivers
[11:45] <Cantide> the panels were also white squares
[11:45] <Cantide> could be
[11:45] <Cantide> i think i'll just try to install 12.04 and cross my fingers - maybe when it installs it'll load better drivers
[11:46] <Cantide> going offline here now to use the internet there..
[11:46] <Cantide> bbl
[11:47] <Cantide> thanks for your help, seb128
[11:47] <seb128> yw!
[13:02] <davidcalle> mhr3, phey
[13:02] <davidcalle> ping or hey...
[13:03] <mhr3> davidcalle, phoy
[13:03] <mhr3> pong and hey :)
[13:03] <davidcalle> mhr3, how are you?
[13:04] <mhr3> davidcalle, well rested after a holiday :)
[13:04] <davidcalle> mhr3, nice :)
[13:04] <davidcalle> mhr3, do you know when Pawel will be around ? I have a mp for him on the video lens
[13:06] <mhr3> davidcalle, i saw it, would like to test it, but i need to dist-upgrade finally
[13:07] <davidcalle> mhr3, you are on a mixed Precise/Quantal?
[13:08] <mhr3> davidcalle, actually precise with complete unity 6 stack installed in a separate prefix
[13:11] <davidcalle> mhr3, where were you on holidays? Still in London?
[13:12] <mhr3> davidcalle, laying on the beach on a sunny and warm greek island ;)
[13:12] <davidcalle> mhr3, fancy :)
[13:13] <mhr3> it was indeed :)
[13:13] <mhr3> davidcalle, what about you? how are things going?
[13:16] <davidcalle> mhr3, pretty good, my boring day work is going to be less boring for a few weeks, release stuff is going well and I'm starting to look for a new place with my gf.
[13:18] <mhr3> davidcalle, great then :)
[15:28] <davidcalle> kenvandine, hey
[15:28] <kenvandine> hey davidcalle
[15:28] <davidcalle> kenvandine, good weekend?
[15:28] <kenvandine> yup, and you?
[15:29] <davidcalle> kenvandine, yeah
[15:29] <kenvandine> great :)
[15:29] <davidcalle> kenvandine, I have a fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-photos/+bug/1053266 (102 affected in four days), is it critical enough to go out today?
[15:30] <davidcalle> kenvandine, Well, it's not "critical", just very visible.
[15:30] <kenvandine> i would say :)
[15:31] <kenvandine> davidcalle, mind if i just distro patch it?
[15:31] <davidcalle> kenvandine, well, then it's in the 0.7 release (it also has the new icon paths). Do you have time for it?
[15:31] <davidcalle> kenvandine, oh sure
[15:31] <davidcalle> kenvandine, rev 80
[15:31] <kenvandine> what are the icon paths for?
[15:32] <davidcalle> kenvandine, the lens doesn't ship icons anymore, the same icons are now provided by unity-asset-pool
[15:32] <kenvandine> ah
[15:32] <davidcalle> kenvandine, for the online services
[15:32] <kenvandine> so we are fine right now
[15:32] <kenvandine> but we should change it
[15:33] <kenvandine> i'll stick with rev80 for right now
[15:33] <davidcalle> kenvandine, yeah
[15:33] <davidcalle> kenvandine, thanks, it's a silly thing :)
[15:38] <kenvandine> davidcalle, uploaded to -proposed
[15:41] <davidcalle> kenvandine, thanks!
[15:58] <davidcalle> kenvandine, hmm, this is not rev80 for trunk. This is the branch and the it had a mistake I corrected while merging. My bad :/
[15:58] <kenvandine> ugh...
[16:00] <davidcalle> kenvandine, rev80 from trunk is fine. Sorry about that, I try to stick to the mp workflow, but being alone on the dev doesn't make it straightforward.
[16:00] <kenvandine> yeah... i know
[16:00] <kenvandine> understand
[16:03] <kenvandine> Laney, ^^ i am about to upload another unity-lens-photos :)
[16:03] <Laney> O_O
[16:03] <kenvandine> just one more line change
[16:03] <kenvandine> nest one more thing that uses db in the same if block
[16:04] <Laney> teach me for just looking at the diff eh
[16:04] <kenvandine> that is what i did too :)
[16:04] <kenvandine> well, i built it and made sure it ran :)
[16:04] <kenvandine> but didn't whack my shotwell db
[16:05] <Laney> patch headers would be good while you're at it
[16:05] <kenvandine> whoops
[16:05] <kenvandine> sorry, already uploaded :)
[16:06] <kenvandine> it's already upstream, and will be in an upstream release right after the freeze
[16:06] <kenvandine> so won't last long as a patch
[16:24] <Laney> vim is telling me about unused imports in shotwell.py
[16:24] <Laney> locale, os, Dee
[16:25] <Laney> davidcalle: why don't you just return if not db?
[16:29] <davidcalle> Laney, you are right, I haven't considered it as the db check was done differently before that, so returning if no db would be a good option, yes.
[16:29] <Laney> you'd get to avoid the massive if block then :P
[16:29] <Laney> (it was the shape of the code that made me consider it)
[16:29] <Laney> anyway. accepted.
[16:30] <davidcalle> Laney, thanks, I'll think about this change for next time.
[16:30] <Laney> (by someone else, not me!)
[21:17] <ade_> Hi all, appreciate you're very busy but would it be possible to have 2 mins of time from someone?
[21:20] <ade_> I am from the QA team currently going through testing unity. If someone could click 'testcase' and scroll down to item 5.. 'Test-case dash/music-lens' and give me a definition for 'indexed music' then that would be awesome http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/237/builds/23813/testcases/1448/results
[21:21] <vivid> hello, i was wondering how i can disable the music available for purchase under the unity music lens
[21:23] <ade_> Even better would be a link to the unity specification document?
[21:25] <thumper> ade_: just ask
[21:26] <ade_> thumper: Hi, we are currently going through the following testcases in QA testing http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/237/builds/23813/testcases/1448/results
[21:27] <thumper> ade_: I'm not sure I can personally help, but if the question is there, you are more likely to get others helping :)
[21:28] <ade_> After following the above link, clicking on the 'testcase' dropdown, if you could clarify what 'indexed music' in item 5 'Test-case dash/music-lens', actually represents in the lense then I would be very grateful
[21:29] <ade_> Basically, after the user presses the sure button and then clicks on music... what items should be displayed? Music played or a full music search on the users system??
[21:30] <ade_> *sure = super
[21:35] <ppd> hi. I have a question before I file a bug, maybe someone can clarify things. Is a Geforce GT220 considered "sufficient" for current quantal's unity? or are there generally problems with nvidia cards? My spread experience in quantal is quite bad whereas on my pre-sandy-bridge intel laptop the same unity runs quite well
[21:53] <popey> ade_, balloons may be able to help
[21:53] <popey> balloons, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1225460/
[21:55] <balloons> ade_, I believe what your after is how the scope works
[21:56] <balloons> your wondering how the unity-lens-music scope works.. aka, should all your music files be shown by the lens when searching, or something else
[21:57] <balloons> afaik, all of your music should display
[21:57] <balloons> someone from the team here with direct code knowledge might be able to give more detail
[21:58] <mhall119> balloons: what's the question?
[21:59] <balloons> how does the music lens work.. ade_ can you specifically give a question on the behavoir you are seeing that you aren't sure about?
[22:02] <ade_> balloons: sorry was away
[22:06] <balloons> ade_, see above


[02:14] <phillw> I know I'm not allowed on here but... as server also needs this.. when will https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1380774 solution be applied and images re-spun. I'd never have thought it a apt bug... amazing.
[02:14] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1380774 in apt (Ubuntu Utopic) "debian-installer does not find kernel" [Critical,Triaged]
[02:15] <phillw> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=765458
[02:15] <ubot2> Debian bug 765458 in apt "apt: broken cdrom support, breaking installation from weekly ISO images" [Serious,Fixed]
[08:23] <infinity> stgraber: Can you test the signed binary from IS and make sure it's still sane (and that Windows likes the sig)?
[11:27] <stgraber> infinity: wubi's ready. Are we waiting for anything else or can we flip the supported flag and build the first actual RC?
[11:27] <stgraber> oh, I meant to upload base-files too...
[11:28] <infinity> stgraber: base-files was done by doko, I believe.
[11:28] <stgraber> ah, good
[11:28] <stgraber> indeed it was, my laptop says Ubuntu 14.10
[11:28] <infinity> stgraber: debian-cd/CONF.sh probably needs the usual twiddle, and we can't build until d-i and the kernel migrate, then we're good to start.
[11:28] <stgraber> and pitti uploaded apport a couple of days ago
[11:36] <stgraber> looks like all the kernel related adt runs are now done, so kernel will hopefully migrate with the next run
[12:07] <doko> infinity, stgraber: maybe let libxml2 migrate before creating the first images?
[14:21] <stgraber> doko: why is it stuck?
[14:22] <doko> stgraber, autopkg tests ...
[14:22] <stgraber> any actual regression or just false positives?
[14:27] <doko> can't say about libreoffice
[14:27] <doko> but usually libreoffice results were ignored
[14:27] <stgraber> doko: I'm retrying the failed adt now
[14:28] <doko> and the other one ... maybe real, but failing for some versions now ...
[14:28] <stgraber> though looking at the past failure, it does look like an actual regression
[14:28] <Laney> libreoffice passed?
[14:29] <stgraber> britney says planet-venus is the only failure for libxml2
[14:29] <stgraber> well, only relevant failure anyway
[14:30] <infinity> But it looks like a real regression.
[14:30] <stgraber> yeah
[14:31] <stgraber> mdeslaur: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Utopic/view/AutoPkgTest/job/utopic-adt-planet-venus/lastBuild/?
[14:32] <mdeslaur> stgraber: that doesn't look like it ever passed...
[14:34] <doko> mdeslaur, according to https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Utopic/view/AutoPkgTest/job/utopic-adt-planet-venus/ it passed until early Aug
[14:34] <Laney> it was skipped
[14:35] <mdeslaur> doko: right, so unrelated to my libxml2 update from yesterday
[14:50] <zequence> Are respins coming to all flavors?
[14:52] <zequence> Talking about the latest round dated 20141017
[14:55] <zequence> I marked the Studio images ready, but that was before I knew there was a new respin on the way. Should I request a new build?
[15:25] <rbasak> I have a new juju-core upload for utopic to go from 1.20.8-0ubuntu1 to 1.20.10-0ubuntu1. juju-core has an MRE anyway, and it's in universe.
[15:25] <rbasak> From reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FinalFreeze I don't need any particular approval before uploading, right?
[15:50] <rbasak> Oh, it still auto-approves? That works for me :)
[16:51] <doko> please accept: ^^^ a fix which already is in python3.4. forgot to backport
[17:12] <wxl> hey folks i just requested a rebuild of the lubuntu alternate images to get the new apt (<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu2) but now i'm worried that might not work if it's not actually in the seed. how can i check this?
[17:16] <wxl> balloons: ↑ any idea?
[17:19] <ogra_> wxl, you mane apt in the seed ?
[17:19] <ogra_> *mean
[17:20] <wxl> ogra_: yep
[17:20] <ogra_> wxl, lubuntu-desktop should depend on ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-stardard ... ubuntu-minimal has apt iirc
[17:20] <ogra_> so you should get the new one pulled in
[17:20] <wxl> ogra_: it's the version of apt i'm worried about
[17:20] <wxl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1380774
[17:20] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1380774 in apt (Ubuntu Utopic) "debian-installer does not find kernel" [Critical,Triaged]
[17:21] <ogra_> oh, thats actually different ... an image rebuuild before debian-installer was rebuilt wouldnt help then
[17:21] <wxl> oic
[17:21] <wxl> is there anything i can do?
[17:21] <wxl> i'll cancel the rebuilds
[17:22] <ogra_> the rootfs/livefs builds will run to the end anyway ... you can as well just leave them running
[17:23] <wxl> well too late :)
[17:23] <ogra_> heh
[17:31] <wxl> so how do we get d-i rebuilt?
[17:33] <ogra_> someone of the installer team will/should upload it
[17:34] <ogra_> but i guess they are all rather out (preparing for travel) or traveling already
[17:34] <wxl> well bdmurray sez it's "uploaded" but i'm not sure what exactly that means ;)
[17:34]  * ogra_ goes to actually read the bug
[17:35] <wxl> thank you :)
[17:35] <ogra_> wxl, oh, crap ... that title is misleading
[17:36] <ogra_> your iso rebuild would indeed have been fine (if the package has landed ... which you can find out by using rmadison (from the devscripts package)
[17:37] <wxl> great! that's what i needed to know
[17:37] <wxl> sorry, new guy as the release manager here
[17:37] <ogra_> ogra@styx:~/Devel/packages/lxc-android-config-0.210$ rmadison apt | grep <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu2
[17:37] <ogra_>  apt | <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu2          | utopic           | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el
[17:37] <ogra_> ogra@styx:~/Devel/packages/lxc-android-config-0.210$
[17:37] <ogra_> looks fine to me
[17:38] <wxl> great, rebuilding again
[17:38] <wxl> what about server? who's the release manager there?
[17:38] <ogra_> the ubuntu release team (like for desktop)
[17:40] <wxl> looks like cjwatson and infinity are the heads of state there, so i'll leave them to that task then :)
[17:40] <wxl> thanks for the help ogra_
[17:40] <ogra_> np
[17:40] <ogra_> right, colin is out today and adam is probably already on a plane (or preparing for that)
[17:41] <wxl> stgraber perhaps?
[17:41] <ogra_> i assume on his way back from linuxcon/plumbers
[17:42] <wxl> Laney ?
[17:43] <ogra_> just said goodnite in #ubuntu-desktop
[17:43] <wxl> Riddell ScottK tumbleweed slangasek ?
[17:43] <ogra_> i am pretty sure you can rely on infinity or cjwatson to trigger a build in case they get online
[17:44] <wxl> cuz that's the whole team that's here at least :)


[03:32] <ahoneybun> hey Akiva-Thinkpad
[03:33] <ahoneybun> mhall119: ping ping
[03:34] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ahoneybun, HEY!!
[03:34] <Akiva-Thinkpad> hows it coming along!
[03:34] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I'm glad you stuck around :)
[03:36] <ahoneybun> Akiva-Thinkpad: I got my N4!
[03:36] <Akiva-Thinkpad> O_O already?!
[03:36] <Akiva-Thinkpad> how is it?
[03:36] <ahoneybun> sweet
[03:36]  * Akiva-Thinkpad hasnt owned a phone since the htc dream ;_;
[03:36] <ahoneybun> but no data
[03:37] <Akiva-Thinkpad> dawww
[03:37] <ahoneybun> Akiva-Thinkpad: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-calendar-dev/ubuntu-calendar-app/5-Improved-EventDetails/+merge/235333
[03:37] <Akiva-Thinkpad> :O
[03:37] <ahoneybun> you see it>
[03:38] <ahoneybun> ?
[03:38] <Akiva-Thinkpad> Initial design idea , ahoneybun
[03:38] <Akiva-Thinkpad> :D
[03:38] <ahoneybun> yep :D
[03:38] <ahoneybun> Akiva-Thinkpad: I have 3 webapps in the store as well
[03:38] <Akiva-Thinkpad> nice; now you just need to fight with jenkins
[03:39] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ;_; I need to publish my app still. Stupid apl documentation
[03:39] <ahoneybun> API?
[03:39] <Akiva-Thinkpad> APL
[03:39] <Akiva-Thinkpad> gnu-apl to be exact
[03:39] <ahoneybun> Akiva-Thinkpad: I was working on a grocery app
[03:39]  * Akiva-Thinkpad is a fan of symbolic logic
[03:39] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ohhh nice
[03:39] <ahoneybun> but problems
[03:40] <ahoneybun> that and I don't fully understand the Components yet
[03:40] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ahoneybun, I have been thinking lately of creating an opensource themed mmorpg, but simple
[03:40] <Akiva-Thinkpad> something really goofy
[03:40] <Akiva-Thinkpad> like instead of factions, you would be either a mac, windows, or linux guy
[03:41] <ahoneybun> that is a deep project
[03:41] <ahoneybun> lol
[03:41] <Akiva-Thinkpad> and inside, you can have different classes
[03:41] <Akiva-Thinkpad> like super user
[03:41] <Akiva-Thinkpad> sys admin
[03:41] <Akiva-Thinkpad> programmer
[03:41] <ahoneybun> Akiva-Thinkpad: if you can throw me some help with my app I would be hopefull lol
[03:41] <Akiva-Thinkpad> fan boy
[03:41] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ( that would be the berserker class)
[03:42]  * ahoneybun needs to make a mockup for it
[03:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ahoneybun, did you do it in html5?
[03:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> or qml?
[03:42] <ahoneybun> no simple UI
[03:42] <ahoneybun> qml
[03:42] <ahoneybun> mostly nothing really
[03:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> yah sure; sounds like fun!
[03:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> in october though
[03:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> just to prioritize rtm :)
[03:42] <ahoneybun> of course
[03:43] <Akiva-Thinkpad> \o/
[03:43] <ahoneybun> I would have data when they drop APN support
[03:43] <Akiva-Thinkpad> do you have a screenshot of the redesigned events page?
[03:43] <ahoneybun> somewhere I opened it
[03:43] <ahoneybun> Let me look
[03:43] <Akiva-Thinkpad> oh it says already merged,
[03:43] <Akiva-Thinkpad> but that was 8 hours ago so I don't have it.
[03:44]  * ahoneybun thinks there was a merge problem
[03:44] <Akiva-Thinkpad> brb
[03:47]  * ahoneybun fails to find it
[03:49] <ahoneybun> found it
[03:49] <ahoneybun> Akiva-Thinkpad: http://i.imgur.com/dIgFhkZ.png
[03:51] <Akiva-Thinkpad> !ping
[03:51] <Akiva-Thinkpad> okay I'm back
[03:52] <ahoneybun> Akiva-Thinkpad: wb
[03:52] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ty
[03:52] <ahoneybun> np
[03:52]  * ahoneybun admits he flashed android today but flashed back to ubuntu
[03:53] <ahoneybun> Akiva-Thinkpad: did you get the link?
[03:53] <Akiva-Thinkpad> nope
[03:53] <ahoneybun> Akiva-Thinkpad: http://i.imgur.com/dIgFhkZ.png
[03:53] <Akiva-Thinkpad> thanks
[03:54] <ahoneybun> np
[03:54] <Akiva-Thinkpad> That looks MUCH better!
[03:54] <ahoneybun> yea lol
[03:55] <ahoneybun> ListItem API is under heavy dev right now
[03:59]  * ahoneybun wants to make a app so bad
[04:04] <ahoneybun> Akiva-Thinkpad: Cannot assign to non-existent property "alwaysExpanded"
[04:04] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ahoneybun, ah
[04:04] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ahoneybun, what component are you doing that to?
[04:04] <ahoneybun> I just took it out
[04:05] <ahoneybun> ListItems
[04:05] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ahoneybun, quick tip
[04:05] <Akiva-Thinkpad> okay
[04:05] <Akiva-Thinkpad> when you are making a new property, hold ctrl, and press space
[04:05] <Akiva-Thinkpad> that will give you a list of items you can complet
[04:06]  * ahoneybun does not understand property at all
[04:06] <ahoneybun> I want a app that you can type a list for your grocery shopping
[04:06] <ahoneybun> like google keep kinda
[04:06] <ahoneybun> but for shopping
[04:15] <ahoneybun> I need to put a text field to enter a item, then place that item on the list and have a check box to mark that I got that item Akiva-Thinkpad
[04:15] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ahoneybun, ah
[04:15] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ahoneybun, btw, do you know about the showcase?
[04:16] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ahoneybun, by the way...
[04:16] <Akiva-Thinkpad> component = MyComponent{}
[04:16] <ahoneybun> Akiva-Thinkpad: yea showcase is awesome
[04:16] <Akiva-Thinkpad> property = MyComponent{propertyOfMyComponent: }
[04:17] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ahoneybun, you can make your own properties; do you know how to do that?
[04:17] <ahoneybun> Akiva-Thinkpad: can you give me a example?
[04:17] <ahoneybun> no clue
[04:17] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ahoneybun, yah sure, do you have team viewer?
[04:17] <ahoneybun> I can get it
[04:17] <Akiva-Thinkpad> yah would be easy that way
[04:17] <ahoneybun> is the one in the store ok or do I need to get it from the site?
[04:17] <Akiva-Thinkpad> site
[04:17] <ahoneybun> ok
[04:18] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ahoneybun, one thing I am working on after rtm is a pair programming plugin for the sdk
[04:18] <ahoneybun> oh?
[04:18] <Akiva-Thinkpad> yah; going to use the libinfinity api
[04:18] <ahoneybun> downloading it
[04:18] <ahoneybun> this is all  new to me
[04:19] <ahoneybun> newbie but I want to learn
[04:19] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ahoneybun, great :)
[04:19] <Akiva-Thinkpad> 648 859 682 is my address
[04:19] <Akiva-Thinkpad> 2642
[04:19] <Akiva-Thinkpad> is the pw
[04:19] <ahoneybun> right now my app has a text field lol
[04:19] <ahoneybun> but I want to center it
[04:19] <ahoneybun> postionAt or something like that
[04:20] <ahoneybun> file:///usr/share/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/doc/html/qml-ubuntu-components-textfield.html#positionAt-method
[04:20] <ahoneybun> I'll show you lol
[04:20] <ahoneybun> I want a "real" app in the store!
[04:22] <ahoneybun> installing Akiva-Thinkpad
[04:25] <Akiva-Thinkpad> cool
[04:27] <ahoneybun> can I show you mine?.
[04:28] <Akiva-Thinkpad> sure
[05:31] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ahoneybun, lol that was a lot of fun
[05:32] <Akiva-Thinkpad> anyways do you have a bit better of an idea what you are doing now?
[05:32] <ahoneybun> Akiva-Thinkpad: a bit
[05:33] <ahoneybun> I'm going to save that code
[05:33] <ahoneybun> Akiva-Thinkpad: thanks very much
[05:34]  * ahoneybun wonders what he can remove lol
[05:41]  * ahoneybun trys to get it to stop changing the labels
[06:48] <Akiva-Thinkpad> hey all
[07:44] <Akiva-Thinkpad> anybody know how to access the scientific calculator mode in the calculator?
[11:14] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ah well i'm headed out
[11:14] <Akiva-Thinkpad> later
[11:15] <Akiva-Thinkpad> to no one who spoke in the last 4 hours ;_;
[12:03] <popey> nik90: clock 109 fails click reviewers....  - desktop_Icon (clock)
[12:03] <popey> 	'clock-app' specified as icon in .desktop file for app 'clock', which is not available in the click package.
[12:03] <popey> 	http://askubuntu.com/questions/417369/what-does-desktop-icon-mean/417370
[12:04] <nik90> popey: I saw, but I didn't change anythere there, so why the sudden failure?
[12:04] <nik90> s/anythere/anything
[12:05]  * popey tests 109 on his device
[12:07] <popey> nik90: something odd here, the 109 build fails to start on my device
[12:08] <nik90> hmm let me try
[12:09] <popey> my device is on ubuntu-touch/utopic-proposed 249
[12:10] <popey> the click came from jenkins
[12:10] <nik90> I am trying on rtm r1
[12:16] <nik90> popey: it works for me. I install 211 from trunk and it opens on my device
[12:18] <popey> 211?
[12:18]  * popey tries on his rtm device
[12:21] <nik90> 111 sry
[12:21] <Festour> Hi all
[12:21] <popey> hi
[12:22] <Festour> how enable setup publick key authentification? That button not work
[12:28] <popey> nik90: 109 in store
[12:29]  * nik90 updates
[12:30] <mzanetti> popey: hey, know what would be cool, if app publishers could subscribe to some email notification service for new comments on apps
[12:31] <nik90> +
[12:43] <popey> +1
[13:11] <mzanetti> rpadovani: hey, why did your blog post about Bacon2D disappear again?
[13:12] <mzanetti> looked interesting to me... would like to read it :)
[13:21] <popey> mzanetti: i thought the same thing!
[13:50] <vitimiti> hi
[13:53] <popey> hello
[14:13] <rpadovani> mzanetti, again? It disapperead only last monday, that wasn't ready. I think I'll publish it tomorrow morning
[15:30] <ahoneybun> incoming IGN webapp
[15:33] <nik90> popey: hey, for me the alarm doesn't ring in devel-proposed #249.
[15:34] <nik90> popey: the indicator-datetime shows the alarms correctly, but when the time passes it dont see any notification and nothing happens
[15:37] <ahoneybun> nik90: my alarm worked
[15:38] <nik90> ahoneybun: are you running image 249?
[15:38]  * ahoneybun checks
[15:39] <ahoneybun> r243
[15:39] <ahoneybun> in the about
[15:39] <nik90> ahoneybun: yeah you are running the devel channel where 243 is the latest.
[15:40] <nik90> ahoneybun: I am running 249 with devel proposed channel
[15:40] <ahoneybun> only update is from the clock v.3.1.109
[15:41] <ahayzen> Anyone have any idea which of these changes could have broken autopilot mocking for music-app http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/244.changes ... strangely it is only broken on device? I've been going through the logs and haven't spotted anything obvious yet :(
[15:45] <ahoneybun> nik90: I can't stop the webapp from opening a browser window
[15:45] <ahoneybun> the problem I have it that it goes from m.gotobus.com to search.gotobus.com/
[15:45] <nik90> ahoneybun: sry, I am a QML guy who has never played around with web-apps
[15:46] <nik90> ahoneybun: talk to daker when he comes online
[15:47] <ahoneybun> ok thanks nik90
[15:51] <ahoneybun> how do I get the SDK to let me install the app onto the device
[15:51] <ahoneybun> ?
[15:51] <ahoneybun> it will not let me
[15:54] <ahoneybun> nik90: is there any APN settings on 249?
[15:55] <nik90> ahoneybun: not sure
[15:55] <ahoneybun> nik90: ok thanks
[15:55]  * ahoneybun away!
[16:26] <rpadovani> mzanetti, popey http://blog.rpadovani.com/en/2014/09/create-your-first-qml-game-with-bacon2d/
[16:44] <ahoneybun> how does one install the RTM image?
[16:46] <popey> ubuntu-device-flash --channel=foo
[16:47] <popey> where "foo" is something from the "ubuntu-device-flash --list-channels" output
[16:52] <ahoneybun> popey: I put a IGN webapp, but I'm still trying to fix the gotobus app
[17:06] <mzanetti> rpadovani: thanks
[17:07] <wafflehead> hey there! I was just poking around with ubuntu-sdk. I installed a kit and the whole process went through and created /dev in my root tree. Now, when I try to build a project it ask me to create a kit again. Have you guys had this issue before?
[17:11] <ahoneybun> wafflehead: I have not
[18:01] <ahoneybun> popey: I;m trying to make  a grocery list app
[18:21] <mihir> popey: ping
[18:21] <mihir> nik90: hey
[18:22]  * nik90 whispers hey
[18:22] <mihir> nik90: heheheh :P everything is good ?
[18:23] <nik90> mihir: Almost good, (having a small headache)
[18:24] <mihir> nik90: ohh okay , my weekend almost got wasted by pathetic internet  :(
[18:24] <nik90> oh
[18:25] <mihir> anyway let's talk tomorrow then , get well soon :)
[18:25] <nik90> yeah that would be better indeed :)
[18:26] <mihir> nik90: no issues :) have great week tomorrow.
[18:26] <nik90> mihir: you too
[18:27] <mihir> popey: when you see this , could you please trigger Jenkins on this MR , i am not sure why it is not triggered since yesterday.
[18:27] <mihir> popey: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-calendar-dev/ubuntu-calendar-app/5-Improved-EventDetails/+merge/235333
[18:27] <popey> mihir: done
[18:28] <mihir> popey: ahh  that was quick !!! thanks :)
[18:29] <popey> np
[18:33] <ahoneybun> nik90: you have exp in html5 or qml?
[18:36] <mhall119> ahoneybun: late pong
[18:37] <mhall119> rpadovani: this game tutorial is fantastic, could we host a copy of it on developer.ubuntu.com?
[20:31] <ahoneybun> mhall119: I have a few webapps on the store
[21:02] <mhall119> ahoneybun: \o/
[21:02] <ahoneybun> mhall119: like 4 lol
[21:02] <mhall119> yeah, webapps are easy
[21:03] <ahoneybun> IGN GotoBus Broward College and WellsFargo
[21:03] <ahoneybun> but I want to make gotobus better
[21:03] <ahoneybun> Exec=webapp-container --enable-back-forward --store-session-cookies --webappUrlPatterns=https?://m.gotobus.com/* http?://search.gotobus.com/search/* \ http://m.gotobus.com %u
[21:03] <ahoneybun> that is what I put for the new domain
[21:03] <mhall119> ahoneybun: http://developer.ubuntu.com/pioneers/#com.ubuntu.developer.aaronhoneycutt look at that :)
[21:04] <ahoneybun> \0/
[21:04] <ahoneybun> does that mean I get a shirt?
[21:04] <mhall119> ahoneybun: if you find alex_abreu in here or #ubuntu-webapps tomorrow he can probably help you with the URL regexes
[21:04] <mhall119> ahoneybun: yup, too bad you didn't do this at FOSSETCON, I had two on hand
[21:05] <ahoneybun> damn!
[21:05] <mhall119> ahoneybun: next time I get a dump of developer names from the store you'll get an email asking you to fill out info for your shirt
[21:05] <ahoneybun> mhall119: ok I wish I had my laptop
[21:06] <ahoneybun> any idea about the .desktop mhall119 ?
[21:07] <ahoneybun> mhall119: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8398889/
[21:08] <ahoneybun> I have my N4 with Ubuntu on it btw
[21:12] <mhall119> ahoneybun: sorry no, alex or daker might be able to help you tomorrow
[21:13] <ahoneybun> ok I read the docs and it says do it like that
[21:14] <ahoneybun> mhall119: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-calendar-dev/ubuntu-calendar-app/5-Improved-EventDetails/+merge/235333
[21:16] <ahoneybun> \0/ fixed it!!!
[21:16] <nik90> ahoneybun: you have more apps in the store than me :P
[21:17] <ahoneybun> nik90: webapps dont count to me lol
[21:18] <nik90> ahoneybun: make one qml app and you will be in the same boat as me
[21:18] <ahoneybun> nik90: I'm trying
[21:19] <ahoneybun> to make a grocery list app
[21:19] <nik90> cool
[21:20] <ahoneybun> *trying
[21:20] <ahoneybun> lol
[21:20]  * ahoneybun was kinda taking from the notes-app
[21:22] <ahoneybun> I just updated my GotoBus app
[21:26] <popey> ahoneybun: you need a comma
[21:26] <popey> --webappUrlPatterns=https?://m.gotobus.com/* http?://search.gotobus.com/search/* should be --webappUrlPatterns=https?://m.gotobus.com/*,http?://search.gotobus.com/search/*
[21:27] <ahoneybun> yea I fixed that thanks popey
[21:27] <popey> also, all on one line
[21:27] <popey> oh, missed that
[21:27] <ahoneybun> popey: I updated it and I need a reviw :)
[21:27]  * popey gets beer to celebrate
[21:27] <ahoneybun> *review
[21:27]  * popey reviews before beer
[21:27] <popey> right, now beer
[21:28]  * ahoneybun grabs a blue moon
[21:28]  * popey has Doombar
[21:41] <ahoneybun> yay 0.2 of gotobus is up!
[21:46] <popey> ahoneybun: having fun? ☻
[21:49] <ahoneybun> popey: yea I'm working on my Grocery List app now
[21:51] <ahoneybun> was working but now the button is overlaying the list
[22:05] <Festour> Hi all!
[22:05] <Festour> What i should do, if i cant enable RW System on my device?
[22:11] <Festour> Someone?
[22:12] <nik90> Festour: why not?
[22:13] <nik90> Festour: How did you try to convert it into a RW system?
[22:21] <ahoneybun> about using rows....
[22:33] <rpadovani> mhall119, it would be an honour for me
[22:35] <rpadovani> mhall119, and of course fell free to fix mistakes / rewrite in properly english :-)
[22:39] <ahoneybun> *proper english
[22:39] <ahoneybun> lol
[22:40] <rpadovani> ahoneybun, exactly what I was talking about :D
[22:48] <ahoneybun> yea rpadovani
[23:39] <ahoneybun> nik90: what was the command for proposed?
[23:45]  * ahoneybun downloads the rtm/devel
[23:57] <ahoneybun> mhall119: ping