[22:19] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: I'd suggest you first install ubuntu and give it 80 GB, then use rest for windows, then see :
[22:19] <Edbuntu> alesd_____ thank you
[22:19] <DasEi1> !grub
[22:19] <joaopinto> Poldie, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[22:19] <myconidx> how do I run a .jar file when 'java -jar' reports command java not found?
[22:19] <thilo_> hello, I have installed the packages libqglviewer2 and libqglviewer-dev in ubuntu hardy. But when I compile a project which is linked with the -lqglviewer option, I get a "undefined reference to `QGLViewer::~QGLViewer()'" and many more undefined references. Is this package incomplete?
[22:19] <Niek> when I start the command "DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace &", my window borders appear, but my compiz fails
[22:20] <raevol> could someone help me get nvidia drivers working in intrepid
[22:20] <Poldie> joaopinto: uh...i've been using linux (ubuntu 8.04.1) for about 6 weeks now - not sure i can do that.  what would i google for to find a tutorial? (cheers for the help so far, by the way)!
[22:20] <Niek> and when I start compiz again, the window borders are gone
[22:20] <Niek> so it sounds like compiz bug
[22:20] <Poldie> joaopinto: oops - just noticed that link -thanks!
[22:20] <jrib> raevol: system -> administration -> hardware drivers
[22:20] <Niek> lets check the compiz channel
[22:20] <raevol> jrib: doesnt work
[22:20] <jrib> raevol: be more specific
[22:20] <bingungaja> raevol : same here, doesn't work too
[22:20] <osubuck> hspaans, looks like i'll just burn it and test out the live cd then :)
[22:21] <Flare183> stimpie: ok
[22:21] <DasEi1>  lhamil64:you wouldn't need gparted for a fresh install, anyway then
[22:21] <raevol> google tells me that jockey doesnt support the new drivers
[22:21] <joaopinto> Poldie, there was a cleaner how-to for it, but I can't find it :(
[22:21] <lhamil64> i've got windows already installed though, should i just run the installer and manually edit the partitions
[22:21] <raevol> i tried installing them through synaptic and using nvidia-xonfig, no dice
[22:21] <shane2peru> when I search in synaptic, I only get the 2.6.27-7 kernel, and nothing even close to that one.
[22:22] <shane2peru> I need the one I just upgraded from.
[22:22] <myconidx> Is there any eta for Ubuntu supporting java?
[22:22] <chrisptzr> I installed ubuntu 8.10 on the second partition of a macbook.  Now OSX boots normally, but grub never comes up.  How can I get grub to show up so I can dual boot?
[22:22] <joaopinto> shane2peru, you can't use an older kernel
[22:22] <Glu3> Is it possible to port forward with a dynamic IP?
[22:22] <csilk> Are msttcorefonts installed by default on intrepid because I can't find an intrepid package for them?
[22:22] <shane2peru> wouldn't that be 2.6.27-4
[22:22] <paul__> When I installed Ubuntu a few hours ago i noticed it did not recognize my Windows XP installation , I also cannot see it in the GRUB menu, any suggestions on how to get access to winxp back again?
[22:22] <shane2peru> joaopinto: ok, so how do I roll back?
[22:22] <Simon1245> Can someone help me i got problem when i downloaded ubuntu 8.10
[22:22] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: I c, no then : defrag windows, run geparted, rezise it to 80 gb (pressuming the drive isn't filled more up )
[22:22] <Flare183> Simon1245: Yes
[22:22] <AnonDan> Hi I'm using ndiswrapper for my wireless card but would like to switch the driver to madwifi... How do I change drivers?
[22:22] <ompaul> Glu3, the port has nothing to do with the ip, you can forward ports
[22:22] <jrib> Simon1245: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to answer you
[22:22] <shane2peru> joaopinto: oh, Ihave been using ibex for a week now.
[22:22] <joaopinto> shane2peru, you can't, you need a fresh install to roll back to a previous ubuntu release
[22:23] <csilk> !ask | Simon1245
[22:23] <Flare183> AnonDan: Depends on which card you are talking about
[22:23] <joaopinto> shane2peru, so what is your problem with the current kernel ?
[22:23] <aLeSD____> paul__ can you mount the windows partition from the ubuntu enviromnent ?
[22:23] <Flare183> !ntfs | aLeSD____
[22:23] <shane2peru> joaopinto: my sound worked before the latest kernel release, it was just updated today.
[22:23] <csilk> aLeSD____, yes
[22:23] <shane2peru> joaopinto: just the kernel, I have been running ibex for a week now.
[22:24] <aLeSD____> csilk: so edit the menu.* in /boot/grub ...
[22:24] <nikolajsheller1> macbook
[22:24] <shane2peru> and it worked better before it was released. lol :)
[22:24] <AnonDan> Flare183: I have a Belkin F5D7000 ver. 5000
[22:24] <CelticLord> nuit!!
[22:24] <aLeSD____> csilk: if u are able ... I don't know if ubuntu has a front end for that
[22:24] <joaopinto> shane2peru, oh.. that upgrade
[22:24] <zamba> i have a private key with a password that i use to connect to other hosts.. but now i want to run a cron job that rsyncs files from one host to another.. this of course fails, since the cron process haven't got access to my ssh-agent.. how can i solve this?
[22:24] <Flare183> AnonDan: Ok hold on
[22:24] <csilk> !ntfs | aLeSD____
[22:25] <jeffrey1> Tried to upgrade 8.04 to 8.10....says my system is already up to date....why can't I see the new release
[22:25] <AnonDan> I just want to try the madwifi drivers but i'm not sure how to temporarily remove ndiswrapper, or how to switch drivers
[22:25] <chrisptzr> how do you install grub on a mac?
[22:25] <AnonDan> Flare183: thanks
[22:25] <Simon1245> I got problem when i downloaded Ubuntu 8.10 when i start it and take it, it's Coming to a black screen and there it's stands [Fail] in red text first line is /dev/sda6: duplicated or bad blocks in use! and the las line is bash: no job control in this shell
[22:25] <lhamil64> DasEi1: I'm sort of back at the beginning now (lol) I thought, "well I think that gParted will be easier to resize a partition" so I opened it and i really don't know what to put in for values when I go to resize my Windows partiton
[22:25] <joaopinto> !upgrading > jeffrey1
[22:25] <shane2peru> joaopinto: right it is really rather new, and broke my sound.
[22:25] <Asara> i'm hating this move to upgrade to 8.10 right now, i have tried to fix this problem with my ati drivers for ages now and nothing works, and to downgrade to hardy i have to fresh install, which is a pain
[22:25] <hspaans> zamba: ssh-keygen
[22:25] <Flare183> AnonDan: np
[22:25] <jrib> zamba: the easy solution I see is to generate a key with no password
[22:25] <csilk> Are msttcorefonts installed by default on intrepid because I can't find an intrepid package for them?
[22:25] <Thedjatclubrock> Are the Repo servers down?
[22:25] <zamba> hspaans: generate a new set of keys for that use?
[22:25] <joaopinto> shane2peru, this new kernel was expected to bring a security fix related to network, it shouldn't have mess with your sound
[22:25] <Simon1245> I got problem when i downloaded Ubuntu 8.10 when i start it and take it, it's Coming to a black screen and there it's stands [Fail] in red text first line is /dev/sda6: duplicated or bad blocks in use! and the las line is bash: no job control in this shell
[22:25] <zamba> jrib: that's what i thought as well..
[22:25] <shane2peru> Thedjatclubrock: just slow because of the release today
[22:25] <nikolajsheller1> chrisptzr: I'm fighting with the same problem... So far I have found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[22:26] <jrib> !info msttcorefonts | csilk
[22:26] <Thedjatclubrock> shane2peru: They keep failing, along with the PGP key
[22:26] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: It's non an absolute must, but makes resizing safer : did you defrag the win - parti ?
[22:26] <zamba> jrib: and then just specify in the cron job which private key to authenticate with, right?
[22:26] <Flare183> AnonDan: This should help: http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility/Belkin
[22:26] <shane2peru> joaopinto: well, that is great, because I have now sound.
[22:26] <hspaans> zamba: yes without an password and update your ssh_config so those keys are only used in that situation
[22:26] <Flare183> AnonDan: If it doesn't l let me know
[22:26] <jrib> zamba: yep
[22:26] <Flare183> let me know*
[22:26] <shane2peru> Thedjatclubrock: yes, they are overloaded.
[22:26] <Thedjatclubrock> shane2peru: Upgrade failed :P
[22:26] <Thedjatclubrock> !upgrad
[22:26] <Thedjatclubrock> !upgrade
[22:26] <raevol> has anyone gotten nvidia drivers working on intrepid?
[22:26] <Simon1245> I got problem when i downloaded Ubuntu 8.10 when i start it and take it, it's Coming to a black screen and there it's stands [Fail] in red text first line is /dev/sda6: duplicated or bad blocks in use! and the las line is bash: no job control in this shell
[22:26] <lhamil64> DasEi1: I thought of that before I downloaded ubuntu and when i opened the defragger it says i dont need to defrag
[22:26] <paul__> So yea I am wondering how am i suppoosed to mount the windows partition from Ubuntu's enviroment
[22:26] <nikolajsheller1> !efi
[22:26] <J|Gerrit> Hi all
[22:27] <jrib> raevol: you never answered my request for details
[22:27] <hspaans> raevol: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810#nVidia%20%22legacy%22%20video%20support
[22:27] <shane2peru> joaopinto: I guess I should file a bug in that case.
[22:27] <nikolajsheller1> !macbook
[22:27] <csilk> jrib, my stupid mistake, i was looking at packages.ubuntu.com from a hardy machine so it showed me the hatdy packages by default.. duh
[22:27] <AnonDan> Flare183: I've already built and installed madwifi. Just don't know how to load it instead of ndiswrapper (which loads by default)
[22:27] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: you're on live- cd now ?
[22:27] <Thedjatclubrock> How do I upgrade server edition
[22:27] <csilk> *hardy
[22:27] <raevol> jrb sorry this place is a flood, what details?
[22:27] <lhamil64> DasEi1: yes
[22:27] <raevol> jrb sorry this place is a flood, what details?
[22:27] <raevol> urg
[22:27] <jrib> !upgrade > Thedjatclubrock
[22:27] <Asara> anyone have any ideas how to get the fglrx driver working properly...i reinstalled it and still nothing works
[22:27] <Simon1245> Someone help me i have said it 3times no answer
[22:27] <Flare183> AnonDan: I think ndiswrapper is better
[22:27] <Simon1245> I got problem when i downloaded Ubuntu 8.10 when i start it and take it, it's Coming to a black screen and there it's stands [Fail] in red text first line is /dev/sda6: duplicated or bad blocks in use! and the las line is bash: no job control in this shell
[22:27] <jrib> raevol: what exactly happens when you try to use Hardware Drivers?
[22:27] <joaopinto> shane2peru, yes you should :(
[22:28] <jrib> Simon1245: is /dev/sda6 your /?
[22:28] <raevol> jrib i click activate, it pops up a little window and works, then closes it and stays unactivated
[22:28] <csilk> Asara, I'll tell you in 30 mins after i get intrepid on my ATI desktop, only got it on my intel laptop right now (unless anyone else answers you first
[22:28] <Simon1245> I think so
[22:28] <jrib> raevol: what happens when you reboot?
[22:28] <raevol> jrib and then when i restart my x crashes
[22:28] <jrib> raevol: what card?
[22:28] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: you could use that, but in your question I see you're not very familar with it, so I'd suggest you to d/l the gparted-live cd, which offers a better support for that, nice tool anyway
[22:28] <monk12> last question on grep. how do u suppress files that arent binary. seems to just give output saying found match in binary like 'Binary file php5ts.dll matches'. id rather not output binary matches. didnt see an option in man-ning grep for doing that.
[22:28] <Simon1245> I think i have same problem as raevol
[22:28] <raevol> jrib 7800 agp
[22:28] <shane2peru> joaopinto: is there anything I can do to troubleshoot it first?
[22:29] <Asara> csilk, ok...i'm running on an old laptop, with a Mobility Radeon 9700...so pretty old
[22:29] <jrib> monk12: I just pipe to  'grep -v ^Binary', but there may be a better solution
[22:29] <amortvigil> hey who knows where to get the panel background added to the live cd?
[22:29] <csilk> Asara, ah rite, i got a Radeon 2400 HD so we might be using different drivers lol
[22:29] <chrisptzr> nikolajsheller1: looks like you can get by holding down "alt" when you boot.  A bit of a pain, but whatever.
[22:29] <jrib> raevol: have you tried any other methods to enable the nvidia driver?
[22:30] <yowshi> torrent so slow we need more people to share it
[22:30] <yowshi> seeeeed people seeed
[22:30] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/gparted/gparted-live-0.3.9-4.iso?modtime=1222872844&big_mirror=0
[22:30] <lhamil64> DasEi1: I could just try to do it in the installer or something and then hope i did it right :) this isn't my main machine and the xp install is pretty fresh so I don't really care if i hose it
[22:30] <raevol> jrib i tried the hardware drivers thing and i tried manually getting the packages and using nvidia-xconfig
[22:30] <Asara> csilk, yeah...that's the problem...if the newer fglrx drivers don't support my card that sucks
[22:30] <katherine> in case anyone is looking for something to do tonight, linuxjournal.com/live starts at 7:30 CDT :) "horror stories from the command line" woo hoo!
[22:30] <J|Gerrit> I have installed just Ubuntu Hardy on my laptop and I have to do a packing called: eeepc-acpi-scripts instal this need, however, acpi-support-base, and this pack acpi-support-base there nowhere is?
[22:30] <Thedjatclubrock> Cool
[22:30] <Flare183> !ot | katherine (sorry rules)
[22:30] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: nice, so run gparted...
[22:30] <Thedjatclubrock> I will do ubuntu on mac soon!
[22:30] <jrib> raevol: ok.  What is the current status?  What nvidia-* package do you have installed if any?
[22:30] <bow> hi
[22:30] <bow> =)
[22:30] <Asara> and it's a pain since there was no warning when upgrading to 8.10 that it wouldn't work, i assumed that what worked in 8.04 would work in 8.10
[22:30] <katherine> ah, ubuntu offtopic it is
[22:31] <joaopinto> shane2peru, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[22:31] <soldierboy> ty katherine, i'll check it out
[22:31] <ninjafury> I've got OpenSuse running on a machine. Is there a way to install Ubuntu on it over the network without a live CD?
[22:31] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: next to it, open a terminal...
[22:31] <raevol> jrib nvidia-177
[22:31] <bow> ÏÈÄÀÐÛ
[22:31] <hspaans> Asara: there is/was with the releasenotes
[22:31] <bow> =)
[22:31] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: terminal: type mount
[22:31] <raevol> jrib nvidia-177-kernel-source to be specific
[22:31] <tilde> sup
[22:31] <Simon1245> I got problem when i downloaded Ubuntu 8.10 when i start it and take it, it's Coming to a black screen and there it's stands [Fail] in red text first line is /dev/sda6: duplicated or bad blocks in use! and the las line is bash: no job control in this shell
[22:31] <joaopinto> shane2peru, to start, run alsamixer from the terminal
[22:31] <Thedjatclubrock> Partitioning!
[22:32] <jrib> raevol: nvidia-glx-177 ?
[22:32] <lhamil64> DasEi1: I pasted in the ammount in megs (81920) for 80gigs. I haven't done anything yet but it looks like it will partition it in half and leave the rest as unallocated space
[22:32] <raevol> and some others, nvidia-glx-177
[22:32] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: make sure, the win-parti isn't mounted
[22:32] <Flare183> !spam | bow
[22:32] <raevol> and nvidia-glx-new, though that must have bee a dependency
[22:32] <raevol> and some others
[22:32] <tilde> when having dual monitors is it possible to *not* have the taskbar extend fully across both monitors
[22:32] <jrib> raevol: nvidia-177-kernel-source is just the source.  What does this return:  aptitude search '~nnvidia~i'
[22:32] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: sounds good, in the top of gparted, press apply
[22:32] <shane2peru> joaopinto: hmm, that isn't good:  No mixer elems found
[22:32] <Simon1245> I got problem when i downloaded Ubuntu 8.10 when i start it and take it, it's Coming to a black screen and there it's stands [Fail] in red text first line is /dev/sda6: duplicated or bad blocks in use! and the las line is bash: no job control in this shell
[22:32] <nosemiaj> help
[22:33] <Flare183> !ask | nosemiaj
[22:33] <tilde> yes?
[22:33] <bow> ÑÓÊÈ
[22:33] <bow> =)
[22:33] <sylar29> could somebody tell me if they had updated to ubuntu 8.10 from 8.04 using update manager
[22:33] <Simon1245> I got problem when i downloaded Ubuntu 8.10 when i start it and take it, it's Coming to a black screen and there it's stands [Fail] in red text first line is /dev/sda6: duplicated or bad blocks in use! and the las line is bash: no job control in this shell
[22:33] <fuje> I love the new alt-tab in intrepid! The one in gutsy made me dizzy
[22:33] <tilde> So any idea about the dual monitor situation? and flare183 whats the question
[22:33] <bow> KISS MY ASS
[22:33] <bow> =)
[22:33] <tilde> nah
[22:33] <sylar29> is it same? i mean does it work well
[22:33] <jrib> bow: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[22:33] <Asara> sylar29, i did, works nicely
[22:33] <jrib> sylar29: yes, should work fine
[22:33] <bow> =)
[22:33] <Simon1245> Someone help me plz
[22:33] <Simon1245> I got problem when i downloaded Ubuntu 8.10 when i start it and take it, it's Coming to a black screen and there it's stands [Fail] in red text first line is /dev/sda6: duplicated or bad blocks in use! and the las line is bash: no job control in this shell
[22:33] <tilde> what
[22:33] <sylar29> wow , going to do that now
[22:33] <bow> you GEi
[22:33] <DasEi1> bow:oo
[22:33] <bow> &
[22:33] <raevol> jrib nvidia-common, nvidia-glx-177, nvidia-kernel-common, the rest have an A? autoinstaled?
[22:33] <Flare183> !language | bow
[22:33] <tilde> simon1245 REINSTALL
[22:34] <bow> oooh
[22:34] <bow> +9
[22:34] <hagabaka> cdromupgrade prints "can't load DistUpgradeViewGtk (No module named Common.SimpleGladeApp)" and quits. any idea how to fix that?
[22:34] <jrib> raevol: use paste.ubuntu.com and just copy and paste
[22:34] <zamba> what is the improved IM client in intrepid?
[22:34] <Simon1245> But i have files on it that i not want to remove
[22:34] <jrib> bow: stop spewing nonsense please
[22:34] <bow> I do not speak english
[22:34] <dmsuperman> I'm having an issue. I have quad monitors. I have dual X screens, with twinview enabled on both. Whenever I restart my machine, the second two monitors don't get any video output. I use nvidia-settings, and only one of them is even detected, but it's not turned on. It takes for me to enable the third one, restart X, enable the third one again (which disables the first one), then enable the fourth one and restart X again every reboot
[22:34] <tilde> then backup
[22:34] <bow> =)
[22:34] <Flare183> zamba: Pigden
[22:34] <raevol> jrib one sec then
[22:34] <zamba> Flare183: ah, so it IS pidgin, ok
[22:34] <jrib> Simon1245: you never answered my question
[22:34] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: did gparted finished the pending operation ?
[22:34] <Flare183> zamba: Yeap
[22:34] <Flare183> !en | bow
[22:34] <dmsuperman> I have dual video cards
[22:34] <Simon1245> Jrib what was your question?
[22:35] <tilde> So on dual monitors how do i have the taskbar not extend across both monitors
[22:35] <bow> WHAT*
[22:35] <dmsuperman> tilde: Use twinview
[22:35] <Flare183> !dualhead | tilde
[22:35] <tilde> dmsuperman got it
[22:35] <bow> o e
[22:35] <jrib> Simon1245: is sda6 your /?
[22:35] <Flare183> !spam | bow
[22:35] <bow> yes
[22:35] <bow> =)
[22:35] <dmsuperman> tilde: Did you just enable dual monitors?
[22:35] <tilde> yes
[22:35] <tilde> and im using twinview
[22:35] <dmsuperman> tilde: Restart X
[22:35] <tilde> dmsuperman i did
[22:35] <raevol> jrib http://paste.ubuntu.com/64848
[22:35] <dmsuperman> tilde: That's usually the problem for me, I'm not sure then
[22:35] <lhamil64> DasEi1: crap, i got an error
[22:35] <tilde> oh well
[22:36] <jrib> raevol: lsmod | grep nvidia
[22:36] <lhamil64> DasEi1: I saved it but I'm not sure what to copy
[22:36] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: which error ?
[22:36] <mynous> how do you hide directories in vsftpd on a per user basis?
[22:36] <myconidx> how do you tell what release of ubuntu you are runnig
[22:36] <raevol> jrib nothing
[22:36] <tilde> so many ubuntu noobs -_-
[22:36] <raevol> jrib using dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to get into x right now
[22:37] <CrimsonScythe> anyone else here have serious problems with ATI cards in 8.10? i get to the animating bar during boot-up, and then the screen goes black and the monitor goes into sleep. i had to boot into the old hardy kernel to get X up and running again
[22:37] <tilde> does fedora's telinit 3 to end x and telinit 5 to restart x apply in ubuntu?
[22:37] <jrib> Simon1245: well at this point, I think it would be prudent for you to backup your files first.  Use a livecd.  Or do you already have backups?
[22:37] <DasEi1> lsb_release -a    , myconidx:
[22:37] <lhamil64> DasEi1: This part says "ERROR" next to it: shrink filesystem  00:00:03    ( ERROR )
[22:37] <jrib> tilde: no.  runlevels 2-5 are identical by default.  Why do you need to do that?
[22:37] <Simon1245> Jrib How to backup them?
[22:37] <tilde> jrib just wondering, so runlevels 2 then runlevels 5?
[22:38] <jrib> tilde: huh?
[22:38] <tilde> simon1245 make a partition and put your stuff on it, or backup on external hard drive
[22:38] <lhamil64> DasEi1: and also this: real resize  00:00:00    ( ERROR ) and grow filesystem to fill the partition  00:00:01    ( ERROR )
[22:38] <jrib> Simon1245: use a live cd
[22:38] <tilde> jrib is that the order of commands
[22:38] <tilde> simon1245 backing up isnt hard......
[22:38] <Simon1245> Ok
[22:38] <lhamil64> DasEi1: and finally real resize  00:00:01    ( ERROR )
[22:38] <jrib> tilde: order of what commands?  runlevel 2 is the default runlevel
[22:38]  * Flare183 thinks jrib is helping a lot people at the same time (which can be overwhelming)
[22:38] <tilde> jrib what do i do to end it?
[22:39] <crischan> any DEB experts around? i want to download a source deb. any way to get all required dev-debs required to build the source-deb?
[22:39] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: open a terminal...
[22:39] <jrib> tilde: end what?  X?
[22:39] <tilde> yeas
[22:39] <tilde> yes*
[22:39] <lhamil64> DasEi1: ok
[22:39] <DasEi1> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[22:39] <jrib> raevol: what does 'sudo modprobe nvidia' do?
[22:39] <DasEi1> sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[22:39] <DasEi1> url from terminal ?
[22:39] <lhamil64> DasEi1: the first command it cant find the package
[22:40] <Caesi> hullo, could sb tell me where to find the standard Ubuntu wallpapers?
[22:40] <Caesi> thnx
[22:40] <lhamil64> do you want me to go to an online pastebin and past my entire errors file
[22:40] <raevol> jrib FATAL: module nvidia not found
[22:40] <dollabillz217> anyone having issues with getting broadcom wireless going on 8.10?
[22:40] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: running ibex ?
[22:40] <lhamil64> DasEi1: yes
[22:40] <tilde> dollabillz217 what wireless card do you have
[22:40] <DasEi1> !paste| lhamil64:
[22:41] <csilk> why doesn;t firefox tell you when you need to install the flash plugin anymore?
[22:41] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: sudo fdisk -l
[22:41] <tilde> dollabillz127 8.10 has a problem with intel wireless cards that can cause physical damage to them
[22:41] <velko> crischan, apt-get build-dep
[22:41] <cyphase> are the issues mentioned in the release notes pretty much all the major issues?
[22:41] <DasEi1> copy the out to pastebin, give url
[22:41] <jrib> raevol: what do you have in /lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic/updates/dkms ?
[22:41] <cyphase> none of them affect me, so..
[22:41] <linux-newbie> hello
[22:41] <dollabillz217> tilde: so what can I do about it anything?
[22:41] <csilk> ahh, it does on a few sites
[22:41] <Dextorion> hi linux-newbie
[22:41] <tilde> dollabillz217 what wireless card do you have
[22:41] <jrib> csilk: what site did it fail on?
[22:42] <lhamil64> http://paste.ubuntu.com/64854/
[22:42] <sylar29> i have intel wireless card is that a problem
[22:42] <raevol> jrob no updates folder in the kernel foler
[22:42] <csilk> jrib, youtube
[22:42] <crischan> velko - thanx!
[22:42] <post_break> can anyone give me a hand with user permission problems?
[22:42] <dimedo> hi, i've got an ATI radeon 9600 or 9800 installed and i can't get higher resolutions than 800x600. any ideas?
[22:42] <raevol> jrib no updates folder in the kernel folder
[22:42] <jrib> csilk: youtube tries to be too smart.  If it detects you do not have flash, it does not try to load it.  So then firefox doesn't offer to install it
[22:42] <sylar29> dimedo : install fglrx
[22:42] <tilde> dimedo install/update the radeon drivers
[22:42] <jrib> raevol: alright, purge all your nvidia stuff (including the packages for the kernel modules)
[22:43] <egosintrick> what's the prob post-break
[22:43] <raevol> jrib roger sec
[22:43] <dimedo> sybariten, already installed. each time i start ubuntu, i'm being informed about ubuntu running in low graphics mode
[22:43] <lhamil64> DasEi1: I think i might get off for the night now though, i will try over the weakend. if i can't get it to work I will come back
[22:43] <csilk> jrib,  yeah I guess that makes sense
[22:43] <post_break> hi egosintrick I have a specific area i want all my users to be able to go wild in
[22:43] <ozzloy> my vpnc connection keeps timing out.  how do i stop that?
[22:43] <post_break> they would be trusted users but not root
[22:43] <post_break> how would i go about setting that up?
[22:43] <noclueguy> good evening
[22:43] <jrib> csilk: it's never worked on youtube.  What needs to happen is that the extension should detect that a user visits youtube.com and then it should trigger the install :)
[22:43] <raevol> jrib done
[22:44] <lhamil64> DasEi1: I will stay on for a little, but i will be afk. ill check the chat when i get back
[22:44] <noclueguy> anyone with trouble on ubuntu 8.1?
[22:44] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: check gparted-live !!
[22:44] <DasEi1>  lhamil64: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/gparted/gparted-live-0.3.9-4.iso?modtime=1222872844&big_mirror=0
[22:44] <Wavesonics> omg... getting RAID10 set up is a b****
[22:44] <tazmania_> hello
[22:44] <raevol> jrib did apt-get --purge remove nvidia*
[22:44] <jrib> raevol: alright, this includes linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-7-generic, nvidia-kernel-common, and nvidia-common ?
[22:45] <Paulrf> Anyone know fix for Intel GV910GL issue with V8,10?
[22:45] <Ben1> hi guys, is anyone else having problems with DVD playback in intrepid?
[22:45] <raevol> jrib no, one sc
[22:45] <jrib> Ben1: no, ask your question
[22:45] <ninjafury> is there anyway to get proper 3d accell on intel gfx cards in X?
[22:45] <Wavesonics> any 1 know of a good way to do RAID10 during 8.10 server install?
[22:45] <DasEi1> noclueguy:the longer you drive, the more holes are in the street
[22:45] <bungieQord> RAID10? I've never heard of that
[22:45] <amortvigil> why do i have all this lag when i move my screens in xinerama?? i get 2400fps easely
[22:45] <jrib> noclueguy: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to answer you
[22:45] <noclueguy> What there's an issue with that I got that chipset. Does it a kernel panic?
[22:45] <Wavesonics> RAID 1+0
[22:46] <Hoover_4000> perscitus: r u here
[22:46] <raevol> jrib done
[22:46] <wers> how do I check the integrity of my iso again? I just downloaded it with utorrent in my windows partition. hehe
[22:47] <DasEi1> !md5sum!wers
[22:47] <noclueguy> think you can do a selftest after you bootet from the burned disc
[22:47] <hahalla> can ubuntu easily be installed on an existing xp sp3 comp? or will it be complications?
[22:47] <nekostar> DasEi1 you need to know about md5sum ?
[22:47] <jrib> raevol: what does 'uname -r' return by the way?
[22:47] <nekostar> noclueguy yes there's a disk check menu
[22:47] <aLeSD____> hahalla: good question
[22:47] <bungieQord> How many hard drives are necessary for a RAID 1+0?
[22:47] <DasEi1> wers:there is a menuoption in the installer and also check the md5sum
[22:47] <b3lorixx> Ubuntu 8.10, anyone know hwo to get the Nvidia to work with A GeForce 6150 LE
[22:47] <raevol> 2.6.27-7-generic
[22:47] <nekostar> bungieQord 4
[22:47] <raevol> jrib 2.6.27-7-generic
[22:47] <jrib> raevol: ok
[22:48] <DasEi1> nekostar:no, it's for wers
[22:48] <bungieQord> nekostar, do they have to be all the same size?
[22:48] <raevol> sorry just trying to higlight :P
[22:48] <nekostar> raid 0 on two to create one volume raid 1 [mirror] two of those and get your 10
[22:48] <jrib> raevol: now lets install nvidia-glx-177 and see what happens
[22:48] <Asara> well screw this, i'll wait a couple of days and hope that a supported driver or a fix comes out for my ATI Mobility Radeon 9700, if not i'm wiping the system and reverting back to 8.04
[22:48] <tovella> hahalla: yes.
[22:48] <raevol> jrib roger
[22:48] <noclueguy> Yea that was my question to the guy who asked about checking the iso. I first burn and then check it :-)
[22:48] <nekostar> bungieQord should be, however it could possibly use the smallest disk size if your lucky
[22:48] <wers> DasEi1, but i will have to burn this first right? i wanna check the .iso's integrity first
[22:48] <Ben1> i am trying to get a dvd to play and it wont in either video player or vlc, any ideas?
[22:48] <void___> Hey guys! How can I know which video driver I'm using?
[22:48] <nekostar> but yes.
[22:48] <jdsbluedevl> hi, I am having MAJOR issues with my new monitor.  I had an old VGA cable that was defective in the red channel, but it could give me a resolution of 1280x1024.  I bought a new cable, and now I can't get anything above 640x480.  HELP!!!
[22:48] <ransom> I have a question about the Dynamic Kernel Module Support tool: is it enabled by default and if so can I expect to be able to update the kernel without breaking third party drivers?
[22:48] <doggymenz> my sister has ubuntu 8.04 on her computer, and audio worked in totem, but not in flash, why?
[22:48] <jrib> hahalla: do you want to keep windows?
[22:48] <nekostar> doggymenz apt-cache search lib flash
[22:48] <DasEi1> !md5sum|wers
[22:48] <nekostar> amake sure that result is in there
[22:49] <doggymenz> nekostar, oh, thanks
[22:49] <HorizonXP> hey if i downloaded the intrepid AMD64 desktop cd, how can i use it to upgrade from 8.04?
[22:49] <jrib> doggymenz: known issue with flash and 8.04.  It's resolved in 8.10
[22:49] <nekostar> wers are you on windows or linux btw
[22:49] <nekostar> you can check first
[22:49] <wers> thanks DasEi1
[22:49] <jrib> !upgrade > HorizonXP
[22:49] <DasEi1> np, wers
[22:49] <wers> on my ubuntu now nekostar
[22:49] <nekostar> in linux: md5sum /path/to/iso
[22:49] <Slart> HorizonXP: try just inserting it.. I think you'll get some kind of popup
[22:49] <nekostar> ^^
[22:49] <doggymenz> jrib, oh great, we just updated to 8.10, but havent tried any audio yet, cuz its late
[22:49] <hahalla> no, wanna remove windows and run ubuntu on it
[22:49] <jdsbluedevl> does anyone see my MAJOR issue?!
[22:49] <nekostar> then go to the dl page and find the md5 description file and amke sure same
[22:49] <wers> and i'll compare it with, nekostar ?
[22:49] <doggymenz> my sister uses ubuntu, she only uses her computer for facebook and youtube
[22:50] <nekostar> wers it gives result
[22:50] <nekostar> there's another way to do it all in one
[22:50] <nekostar> gimme one second ok
[22:50] <nekostar> ?
[22:50] <runemaste644> I'm trying to update to 8.10 but on the "cleaning up" part the window is going between responsive and unresponsive. Is something wrong?
[22:50] <FloodBot3> nekostar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:50] <jrib> hahalla: will be as easy as putting the cd in your computer, rebooting, and booting from the cd then
[22:50] <HorizonXP> jrib: i saw that, but it says to use the alternate desktop CD
[22:50] <Exposure101> Does anyone know how to get the sound drivers to work on a new Dell STUDIO 17????  I was hoping going from 8.10RC to 8.10 they would have fixed it....but still no sound :(
[22:50] <void___> Did Ubuntu drop xorg.conf? Coz there's no info on the driver the system is using.
[22:50] <nekostar> shush bot i fat fingered it
[22:50] <markw_> ouch scrollkeeper just exploded updating database. :(
[22:50] <jdsbluedevl> come on, I have a MAJOR issue!
[22:50] <Juanelone> wers:http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/MD5SUMS
[22:50] <wers> nvm nekostar. i found the md5 here http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/
[22:50] <MonkeyMan> Anyone having trouble getting the files to download when upgrading to 8.10?
[22:50] <jrib> HorizonXP: ah right.  You can't use the desktop cd to upgrade
[22:50] <raevol> jrib taking a minute i'll let you know when it's done
[22:50] <wers> thanks Juanelone haha
[22:50] <Slart> void___: I think it autodetects most of the settings
[22:50] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: have you tried booting from a live-cd?
[22:50] <justcollapse> jdsbluedevl: what is your major issue?
[22:51] <HorizonXP> jrib: BOOOURNS... so.... options?
[22:51] <b3lorixx> Ubuntu 8.10, anyone know hwo to get the Nvidia to work with A GeForce 6150 LE
[22:51] <Slart> void___: but I'm pretty sure it will still pick up any settings you put in the file.. and overrider the ones it detects
[22:51] <markw_> jdsbluedevl: can't be anything compared to my 2nd monitor not working.  :)
[22:51] <jrib> HorizonXP: just use update-manager?  Or download the alt cd
[22:51] <jdsbluedevl> all I know is that with my old defective cable, I was able to get 1280x1024
[22:51]  * markw_ notes it sucks only having 1 24" wide display working.
[22:51] <noclueguy> I got trouble on my laptop and my desktop. Desktop comes to ask my about the time zone and then gets a kernel panic (Num- and Scroll- lock blink). And the laptop gets a white screen of death. Can I do something about that. To the specs. Laptop got ATI-Mobility Radeon 3650... The desktop is pretty standard intel 950GEV Mainboard 4 Gigs of RAM. 3GHZ-P3 and Nvidia 6800 GTX...
[22:51] <wers> time flies so fast. it's already 8.10. hehe
[22:51] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: have you tried booting from a live-cd?
[22:51] <hahalla> as for php and mysql, ubuntu is far better and faster than xp on this area, and uses less ram?
[22:51] <jdsbluedevl> and now I can't get anything above 640x480
[22:51] <jdsbluedevl> no, not yet
[22:52] <Exposure101> does anyone know how to get the sound to work on a Dell Studio 17 laptop....?????????????????
[22:52] <void___> Slart: I just want to know if it uses standard "vesa" or not.
[22:52] <guirlache> Hello
[22:52] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: try that.
[22:52] <Dextorion> jdsbluedevl: i find it hard to belive it has something to do with the cable
[22:52] <HorizonXP> jrib: that stinks, i just spent my download bandwidth for nothing then
[22:52] <nekostar> meh i dont see the one liner
[22:52] <Slart> void___: check the file /var/log/xorg.0.log
[22:52] <void___> thx will see
[22:52] <jrib> HorizonXP: do you have /home on a separate partition?
[22:52] <nekostar> b3lorixx yeah just use jockey-gtk and select one of the two older nvidia drivers
[22:52] <Slart> void___: I think it will tell you what driver it's using.. and mode etc etc
[22:52] <nekostar> i think theres a 7x and a 9x
[22:52] <HorizonXP> jrib: yes I do
[22:53] <b3lorixx> necko-star: what is jokygtk
[22:53] <Exposure101> does anyone else have any sound issues with the 8.10 release?
[22:53] <Caesi> Hullo again :) sb any idea where those wallpapers are? :)
[22:53] <nekostar> b3lorixx that's the bit that lets you select the restricted vid driver's
[22:53] <jdsbluedevl> ok, booting off 7.10 Live CD right now
[22:53] <guirlache> I have a question. Can I upgrade a hardy wubi installation to intrepid?
[22:53] <jrib> HorizonXP: well you can use !clone (and some poking if packages have been renamed), do a fresh install, and then just setup your /home again
[22:53] <nekostar> in terminal run: jockey-gtk
[22:53] <noclueguy> @Exposure101 Yes me
[22:53] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: 7.10 ??? wtf?
[22:53] <Thedjatclubrock> Wil RC update to Full Release?
[22:53] <HorizonXP> !clone
[22:53] <jrib> !final | Thedjatclubrock
[22:53] <Exposure101> noclueguy: im guessing we are in the same boat then....noting your name
[22:53] <jdsbluedevl> hey, it's the only Live CD I could find right now
[22:54] <wers> i'm burning intrepid with 3x speed. is that _too_ safe? haha
[22:54] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: ok let us know how it goes.
[22:54] <Exposure101> HELP!?!?! need help with fixing sound on Dell studio 17 laptop.... :(
[22:54] <b3lorixx> nekostar: ive tryed using that when i click activate it doesnt sem to work
[22:54] <runemaste644>  I'm trying to update to 8.10 but on the "cleaning up" part the window is going between responsive and unresponsive. Is something wrong?
[22:54] <nekostar> wers no such thing lol
[22:54] <MonkeyMan> So is the new system cool or what? Mine is installing. Can't wait :)
[22:54] <Poldie> wers: i burnt at 2x just in case!
[22:54] <jrib> HorizonXP: you should have a pretty comparable result to upgrading then (ie the apps you have installed now will be installed still).  If you have any other custom stuff outside of /home, then you need to back that up of course
[22:54] <wers> hehe
[22:54] <lazukars_> yo
[22:54] <nekostar> b3lorixx ah.. try installing via synaptic
[22:54] <Poldie> wers: only going to install it once so it has to wokr!
[22:54] <noclueguy> @Exposure. I don't know the former versions always installed pretty smooth
[22:54] <wers> there's no 2x in brasero
[22:54] <HorizonXP> !automate
[22:54] <wers> just 1x or 3x. hehe
[22:54] <fuje> wers, burn on max speed and do the medium check. I dare not skip that check anyways :P
[22:55] <b3lorixx> neckostar: ok ill try
[22:55] <thomc> Ubuntu does not recognize my sound device?
[22:55] <noclueguy> @Exposure what's your problem then?
[22:55] <nekostar> b3lorixx actually do this in a terminal:
[22:55] <Gerinych> did anyone update their ubuntu with an update manager
[22:55] <runemaste644> the terminal says "ldconfig deferred processing now taking place" and it's stuck on that
[22:55] <Exposure101> yeah i know 7.10 works fine on my desktop......but the sound doesn't work at all on my laptop
[22:55] <jrib> Gerinych: many
[22:55] <jarco> does anyone know the name of the effect where unselected windows jump behind the one you select?
[22:55] <wers> fuje, makes sense :)
[22:55] <egosintrick> #ubuntu-release-party!
[22:55] <nekostar> sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-96
[22:55] <HorizonXP> jrib: i think that'll work. i can't think of anything outside of /home that i need. thanks!
[22:55] <philippe_> Hi. I am experiencing tearing with metacity in Ubuntu 8.10, as if it is not vsync enabled. I have a Nvidia 7800 GTX with proprietary driver 177 installed. What is wrong? --> http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3341/captureib6.jpg
[22:55] <jrib> jarco: try #compiz-fusion
[22:55] <Exposure101> noclueguy:  the drivers are recognized...it recognizes the hardware ....but no sound at all............
[22:55] <Gerinych> jrib, mine's kinda stuck on downloading packages
[22:55] <egosintrick> in communist russia, party releases YOU!
[22:55] <nekostar> b3lorixx then you will need to run after it's all in, if jockey-gtk will not select it:
[22:55] <csilk> egosintrick, that link to the ubuntu party has an exclamation mark on the end therefore as a hotlink it fials
[22:56] <TigranG> Hi. My laptop's cd drive can read blank CD-R's and write to them. I wrote the ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10 ISO's to blank CD-R's and when I boot to it after choosing to install ubuntu nothing happens.
[22:56] <csilk> *fails
[22:56] <jrib> Gerinych: the servers are getting hammered.  Tried using a local mirror?
[22:56] <nekostar> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[22:56] <fmer> PLEASE, can someone help me with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6067892
[22:56] <egosintrick> lol sorry i was not actually linking
[22:56] <csilk> lol
[22:56] <hahalla> as for php and mysql, is ubuntu far better and faster than xp on this area, and uses less ram?
[22:56] <dimedo> sybariten, i just noticed that the system is using the ati driver not the fglrx. but if i try to setuo this up and press the test button, it tells me that the test failed.
[22:56] <Gerinych> jrib how do i use a different mirror
[22:56] <fmer> PLEASE, can someone help me with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6067892 :/ I really need help
[22:56] <nekostar> fmer dont repeat
[22:56] <jrib> TigranG: did you try "check the cd for defects" from the CD's boot menu?
[22:56] <fmer> sorry
[22:56] <acemo> When booting the kubunt 8.10 live cd it hangs with the message "* Checking battery state...      [ok]" what can i do to get past that?
[22:56] <jdsbluedevl> on live CD, resolution is good
[22:56] <strategy> hahalla, those just run better on Linux than windows. Trying to use PHP and MySQL on windows is like trying to eat a car.
[22:56] <jdsbluedevl> so now what?
[22:56] <nekostar> fmer ubu forums is loaded what's the actual problem?
[22:57] <nekostar> oh wait
[22:57] <guirlache> Can I upgrade a hardy wubi installation to intrepid?
[22:57] <nekostar>  Angry  Wubi doesn't install fully! - Need help!!
[22:57] <jrib> Gerinych: if it's still in the download phase, it's safe to cancel.  Then go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources and choose a mirror there.  Then resume your upgrade
[22:57] <fmer> yes
[22:57] <noclueguy> Exposure101: Try to go to the soundpreferences and have some fun with the options there. Like use oss in place of alsa. Maybe you get lucky and happy.
[22:57] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: resolution on Live CD is good
[22:57] <jdsbluedevl> now what?
[22:57] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: as i suspected...
[22:58] <runemaste644>  I'm trying to update to 8.10 but on the "cleaning up" part the window is going between responsive and unresponsive. Is something wrong? I really need help
[22:58] <TigranG> jrib: it doesnt go into it, i can hear the CD drive reading the CD but nothing happens
[22:58] <MonkeyMan> Installation doing clean up. Wont be long now.
[22:58] <Gerinych> jrib alright, thanks
[22:58] <rdakin> I'm trying to install cmemcache on my Hardy box, but setup.py can't find python.h - it doesn't look like it's anywhere on my box... any suggestions on making this work? do I need to re-install python from source (rather than aptitude) to keep the headers around?
[22:58] <bungieQord> how do you save your progress and quit in vi?
[22:58] <AlabamaHit> Hi, Anyone else having trouble with Synaptic Package Manager. Its working but very slow. Its taking along time to download the packages..Just wondering if anyone else has this happening...?
[22:58] <plavcik> new X.org is not working well with sis driver, workarround is swithc to vedsa
[22:58] <nekostar> fmer i dont know wubi very well, however someone if yall know help this poor sod
[22:58] <nekostar> ^^
[22:58] <fmer> okay then
[22:58] <nekostar> srry fmer
[22:58] <jrib> TigranG: but you do get to the menu that lists "install ubuntu" and "check the CD for defects"?
[22:58] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: seems like servers are slammed for the repos, so I can't update anything
[22:58] <TigranG> jrib: yes
[22:58] <egosintrick> fmer I had that problem with the last release probably you just need to burn it again
[22:58] <void___> bungieQord: :wq
[22:58] <dowdle> Greetings.  I'd like to build a new OS Template for Ubuntu 8.10 for OpenVZ... by creating an Ubuntu 8.04 container and upgrading it.  The Ubuntu site has a webpage on how to do the upgrade over the network but it shows doing the config change via the GUI software update program.  I don't have the ability to run the GUI program to change the config.  How can I manually edit the config files for the upgrade?
[22:58] <jdsbluedevl> and I'm not sure if I can do it from the Live CD
[22:58] <fmer> oh
[22:58] <jrib> TigranG: check the md5sum for your .iso and burn at 2x
[22:58] <inktri> hey guys is it possible to install 8.10 witha  usb key??!
[22:58] <csilk> jdsbluedevl, that's odd, I'm getting at least 450kb from the repos
[22:58] <jrib> !install | inktri
[22:58] <fmer> egosintrick: will i need to download it again, or burn it again?
[22:58] <Exposure101> noclueguy: ive tried all that and everything else i can think of...im pretty good with computers....and can usually figure stuff out...this makes me wanna break my new laptop
[22:59] <Slart> AlabamaHit: might just be all the people trying to upgrade at the same time.. select another mirror and see if it improves
[22:59] <chamuscas> hello, i need to reinstall ubuntu in someway, can anyone tell me how can i work out it ?
[22:59] <carpeliam> just tried installing ubuntu alongside windows, i can't boot into any OS it seems. :( i get "Error 18" in Grub. i THINK it might be because i installed ubuntu onto a different HD than Windows, could that be right?
[22:59] <LF|Irssi> AlabamaHit: the servers are being hammered right now cause of the new release, just keep trying or what slart said
[22:59] <jdsbluedevl> well, what can I do now?
[22:59] <MonkeyMan> Gonna do a virtual machine with 8.10 using vmware workstation on laptop after desktop upgrade finishes.
[22:59] <Tetracomm-live> Hello.
[22:59] <jdsbluedevl> just reboot into 640x480 hell and updte there?
[22:59] <chamuscas> jrib, ist that for me :p
[22:59] <Paulrf> I have a question on upgrade video issue when someone has time
[22:59] <jdsbluedevl> *update
[22:59] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: ... sounds like when your video cable became "screwy", ubuntu couldn't properly detect the settings for your monitor & set your system for 640x480.
[22:59] <AlabamaHit> Slart: its not the Update, or download of 8.10, i have it im just trying to install my programs.
[22:59] <MonkeyMan> Wanna test it so bad I can taste it.
[22:59] <noclueguy> @inktri. Thin you find a package on the server where you can download the isos.
[23:00] <TigranG> jrib: i did check the md5, did not burn that slow. I'm redownloading the ISO right now. I just foramtted my windows drive where I saved it on accident from ubuntu trying to format a flash drive. I'm still kicking myself in the face about that. I'll bb a bit later to tell you if it worked or not. Thanks.
[23:00] <Slart> AlabamaHit: are you installing from the repos?
[23:00] <AlabamaHit> Slart: how do i changed a server on Synaptic, Sorry, I misunderstood.
[23:00] <ylan> Hi everyone... I have Xubuntu 8.04 installed. I want to end up with Ubuntu 8.10. Can I do this with the alternate cd for ubuntu 8.10?
[23:00] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: can you repeat that?  I might have accidentally closed that window
[23:00] <Slart> AlabamaHit: search for "software sources" or repositories
[23:00] <AlabamaHit> slart, im just installing, stuff like LAMP, acid rip and gftp and all that
[23:00] <Tetracomm-live> I am trying to install Ubuntu 8.10 with the live cd and the partitioner only shows me a blank screen where there should be a list of the partitions, but gparted shows me a list of them, help?
[23:00] <jrib> chamuscas: well you can just install again the same way you did the first time, no?
[23:00] <kios> ciao
[23:00] <tovella> jdsbluedevl:  ... sounds like when your video cable became "screwy", ubuntu couldn't properly detect the settings for your monitor & set your system for 640x480.
[23:01] <AlabamaHit> Slart, Thanks :)
[23:01] <criminy> aah. I can't believe it was only six months ago that I came in here to a swamped room fool of excited ubuntu 8.04 users.
[23:01] <Paulrf> Upgraded ubuntu and now Intel GV910GL video not working properly... any ideas?
[23:01] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: so, what do I do?
[23:01] <carpeliam> if grub is botched, how do i get back to being able to boot into an OS so i can actually fix things?
[23:01] <tilde> is it possible to have 2 mouse cursors in ubuntu?
[23:01] <raevol> jrib done installing nvidia-glx-177 and got a new mirror so this will go faster
[23:01] <jdsbluedevl> is there a way to adjust through the Live CD?
[23:01] <ceafu> hey al. gonna be busy here, but wondering if anyone knows how to configure touchpad with 8.10  I am looking for a simple 2 finger tap for right click
[23:01] <Slart> AlabamaHit: you're welcome.. if you're close to sweden, try one of our servers.. I'm getting 1080 kB/s from the one I'm using
[23:01] <chamuscas> jrib, you know the problem is that some essential skins an basic files of ubuntu are missing and don't ask why =P, and i want to reinstall them but i just don't know which are the files
[23:01] <AlabamaHit> slart, I'm from USA...i will find close one, Thanks again :0
[23:01] <jrib> raevol: k.  What does 'sudo modprobe nvidia' do for you now?
[23:01] <LF|Irssi> Is webmin still "broke" in ubuntu? i cant get bacula module to work for anything, i dont want to use ebox or w/e its called, just tell me if its still broke or not please :)  thanks
[23:02] <WelshDragon> tilde, http://wearables.unisa.edu.au/mpx/
[23:02] <raevol> jrib same fatal module not found
[23:02] <hspaans> was webmin ever working?
[23:02] <jrib> chamuscas: so you don't want to reinstall all of ubuntu, just some packages?
[23:02] <mker> I know there's some "famous" pastebin-app in KDE, anyone know what the Gnome app is called?
[23:02] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: what you can do is restore from a previous version of your xorg.conf file.
[23:02] <Slart> LF|Irssi: I use it on my server.. I've heard many people say it's broken on ubuntu..
[23:02] <Slart> LF|Irssi: but I just can't stand the alternatives
[23:02] <jrib> raevol: erm :/  Are you positive all the packages got purged before?
[23:02] <tilde> welsh dragon
[23:02] <tilde> 18 cursors at once
[23:02] <tilde> this is sooo tihgt
[23:02] <tilde> tight*&
[23:02] <FloodBot3> tilde: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:02] <acemo> When booting the kubunt 8.10 live cd it hangs with the message "* Checking battery state...      [ok]" what can i do to get past that?
[23:02] <raevol> jrib as far as i know
[23:02] <fmer> Can anybody help with this? - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6067892 - will re-burning the iso help?
[23:03] <Slart> acemo: it might be hanging on whatever it's trying to do after checking the battery
[23:03] <tilde> fmer always burn at the lowest speed
[23:03] <fmer> okay
[23:03] <chamuscas> jrib, right i want to install the basic files that come with ubuntu, can i make my self clear ?
[23:03] <LF|Irssi> slart , sigh. ok i hope ubuntu or webmin fixes the issues soon, until then i guess its all about command line
[23:03] <tilde> fmer let wubi download the iso
[23:03] <AlabamaHit> Has the Flasth and Java in 64Bit working Right? or should i just stick to 32bit? got a 2.2gig processor and 3 Gig of Ram...Don't know fi 64 bit would be a big difference, what yall think?
[23:03] <Slart> LF|Irssi: hehe.. yea.. have you tried that other one.. the one that's designed for ubuntu?
[23:03] <fmer> tilde: I have limited bandwidth i can use, and 700mb for one day would be enough :/
[23:03] <Slart> !webmin
[23:03] <acemo> Slart: yeah.. probably, but what would be the next thing its doing?
[23:04] <jrib> chamuscas: you need to figure out exactly what packages you want to reinstall.  Then you can do that with: sudo apt-get --reinstall install PACKAGE
[23:04] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: where can I find an old version of my xorg.conf file?
[23:04] <jdsbluedevl> or should I just delete it and let Ubuntu create a new one?
[23:04] <Slart> LF|Irssi: ebox.. that was it
[23:04] <LF|Irssi> na, i dont have any desire to try the alternatives either Slart
[23:04] <acemo> !ebox
[23:04] <tilde> fmer wubi wasnt all that reliable for me anyways. a graphics card update crashed and deleted my ubuntu/windows xp dual boot for some reason
[23:04] <mker> AlabamaHit: I don't think amd64 will give you anything you don't have. I use it but I don't like flash, and it doesn't give me anything 32bit doesn't have either :)
[23:04] <PassionFRUI7E> jdsbluedevl:  Any modified extension is an automatic backup
[23:04] <tilde> but it left grub for some reason
[23:04] <chamuscas> jrib, i'll try that but tanks in ahead
[23:04] <inktri> i've got an 8.04 live cd and the 8.10 iso file but not CD's... what can i do?
[23:04] <fmer> oh
[23:04] <Slart> acemo: I have no idea..
[23:04] <jrib> raevol: alright, purge again, we'll check this time
[23:04] <PassionFRUI7E> 64 Bit is speedy.  I love it.
[23:04] <acemo> Slart: great, me neither :)
[23:04] <tilde> yeah dont use wubi, live cd install, its WAY more reliable/faster
[23:05] <Wavesonics> hey
[23:05] <tilde> hey
[23:05] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: ubuntu should have made a backup in /etc/X11... use the command
[23:05] <tovella> ls /etc/X11/xorg*
[23:05] <tovella> to see the versions that are there.
[23:05] <markw_> hey hey hey...
[23:05] <Wavesonics> can I take a partition which my / (not /boot) is installed to, and make it an encrypted partition?
[23:05] <raevol> jrib apt-get --purge remove nvidia* done, what now?
[23:06] <shamus> is this some kind of new feature where I need to pay for the VC1 codec support?
[23:06] <jrib> raevol: the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.27-7-generic package.  Then pastebin: dpkg -l '*nvidia*'
[23:06] <nikolajsheller1> :( Unable to get macboot to boot into intrepid
[23:06] <PassionFRUI7E> A good trick to open your own backups (ending in only .conf, the automation adds more) do gedit /etc/X11/*.conf
[23:07] <carpeliam> is there a way to edit the bootloader if grub won't boot into any OS? i'm really in a pickle :(
[23:07] <markw_> PassionFRUI7E: I prefer vim. :)
[23:07] <Palomides> how do I get the UUID an HD I just added to my computer?
[23:07] <runemaste644> The update is stuck on searching for obsolete software and is fluctuating between responsive and unresponsive. What is wrong?
[23:07] <raevol> jrib that linux restricted one isnt installed
[23:07] <PassionFRUI7E> I never touched VIM.  I'll try it.
[23:07] <Gnea> !grub | carpeliam
[23:07] <Slart> carpeliam: you should be able to edit the grub boot options in the grub menu
[23:07] <jrib> !uuid | Palomides
[23:07] <DasEi1> carpeliam:for a idea:
[23:07] <Gnea> carpeliam: 2nd url :)
[23:07] <DasEi1> !grub
[23:07] <Palomides> jrib: ty
[23:07] <jrib> raevol: ok, I'm working on knowledge from hardy, so it's probably different now
[23:07] <dream3n> chaps, is anyone here using eclipse&&CVS?
[23:08] <b3lorixx> nekostar: that didnt work
[23:08] <DasEi1> carpeliam:you could check /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:08] <speedy> what do i do when i get W: GPG error: http://kw.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[23:08] <b3lorixx> neckstar: i get a error
[23:08] <tarelerulz> I am using gparted .  I have /dev/sda1 is where my main stuf /din , /ect/ , /home and so on .  I have an extened partion  then have my swap in it.    How would I make more space to I can make new partition ?
[23:08] <AlabamaHit> slart, i clicked for it to select the Best Repo for me...and it picked one...i reloaded and getting 2mbs now..Thanks.....Question though....Are they ALL the same? or do i need to go back to what came orignally?
[23:08] <raevol> jrib im not sure, i never installed that package ater removing it
[23:08] <carpeliam> Slart, i don't DasEi1 how do i check that if i can't boot into an OS :/
[23:08] <Gnea> DasEi1: s/he can't boot to it
[23:08] <carpeliam> err
[23:08] <Purity> hey guy can anyone help me wit thid error while burning dvd
[23:08] <Purity> There was an error writing to the disc
[23:08] <Slart> AlabamaHit: in a perfect world all the mirrors are the same.. fortunately they are the same most of the time in the normal world too =)
[23:09] <DasEi1> carpeliam: see the !grub triiger to use a live cd
[23:09] <Slart> AlabamaHit: I don't think you'll have to go back to using the original servers, no
[23:09] <DasEi1> !grub
[23:09] <Purity> There was an error writing to the disc
[23:09] <TuxSympathiser> Purity, what kind of error?
[23:09] <PassionFRUI7E> This update speed is rediculous lol.
[23:09] <tilde> archive.ubuntu.com downloading is slow
[23:09] <Slart> carpeliam: when you boot your computer you either get a grub menu.. or you get some kind of "press f2 for grub menu"
[23:09] <Gnea> carpeliam: are you getting some sort of error message?
[23:10] <TuxSympathiser> PassionFRUI7E, erm maybe a lot of people are using the same server to update?
[23:10] <Purity> There was an error writing to the disc dvd
[23:10] <jrib> raevol: that's fine, just psatebin that dpkg command
[23:10] <Purity> on a light scribe dvd drive
[23:10] <PassionFRUI7E> Imagine everyone running windows downloading 2 gigs at the same time on the same server.
[23:10] <AlabamaHit> Slart, thanks man...Its nice speeds now, I just let it choose best for me, then clicked to select it and reloaded :) now 2mbs going to have my software done in no time now.
[23:10] <csilk> PassionFRUI7E, what speed you getting?
[23:10] <Gnea> Purity: is the md5sum of the .iso correct?
[23:10] <runemaste644> The update is stuck on searching for obsolete software and is fluctuating between responsive and unresponsive. What is wrong? I REALLY need help
[23:10] <jdsbluedevl> crap, I moved an old xorg.conf file to default, restarted X server, and now I get "1: analog input Cannot Display This Video Mode"
[23:10] <PassionFRUI7E> I know it should be slow, I just think it's cool how official ubuntu is.  50 kb/s.
[23:10] <raevol> jrib http://paste.ubuntu.com/64862
[23:10] <speedy> what do i do when i get W: GPG error: http://kw.archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[23:10] <Purity> whats thet
[23:10] <carpeliam> Slart, I'm not getting a menu, i'm getting an error :( Gnea, "Error 18". my guess is this is because I installed ubuntu on a different physical disk than the boot disk
[23:10] <csilk> PassionFRUI7E,  lol I'm getting 450kb, about half what i usually get
[23:10] <jNoxx> hi 2 all
[23:11] <Purity> and how do you pst somone
[23:11] <Slart> AlabamaHit: yup.. the sweet advantages of not using the same servers as the rest of the horde
[23:11] <PassionFRUI7E> I normally download about...600-800 KB/s
[23:11] <sergei> hey guys hows everybody
[23:11] <sergei> ?
[23:11] <jNoxx> I have a ptoblem
[23:11] <sergei> I'm having downloading problems with the new ubuntu
[23:11] <jNoxx> problem*
[23:11] <PassionFRUI7E> I just got normal hi-cable.
[23:11] <jdsbluedevl> if I get it again, I'll have to delete the xorg.conf fie and let Ubuntu re-create it
[23:11] <Gnea> carpeliam: one moment
[23:11] <carpeliam> i'm not sure if anybody could confirm, what happens when you install ubuntu on a different physical disk than the boot disk?
[23:11] <jrib> raevol: purge nvidia-glx-new
[23:11] <Slart> carpeliam: sounds correct... not sure if that keeps the grub menu from showing.. but you might have to reinstall grub entirely
[23:11] <jNoxx> my radeon hd 3470 kills me
[23:11] <PassionFRUI7E> I got an hd3200
[23:11] <jNoxx> I can not install any drivers
[23:11] <AlabamaHit> Everyone if your downloading Slow...change your Repo your downloading from.
[23:11] <raevol> jrib apt-get --purge remove nvidia-glx-new says its already removed
[23:11] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: did you see different versions?
[23:11] <DasEi1>  sergei: downloading the installer ?
[23:11] <TuxSympathiser> PassionFRUI7E, It must be annoying having slow download speeds when paying so much for a service/ product
[23:12] <tilde> can someone help me build icewm-1.2.13?
[23:12] <PassionFRUI7E> How you change where you dl from?
[23:12] <sergei> what repo do we change to?>
[23:12] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: yes, I did sudo mv backup.file default.file
[23:12] <chamuscas> jrib, one more thing when i'm programing in c , the compiler doesn't recognise the *, +, /, % -
[23:12] <jdsbluedevl> damn, got it again
[23:12] <jNoxx> It is really bad(
[23:12] <Slart> PassionFRUI7E: system, software sources.. there's a menu option in synaptic too..
[23:12] <PassionFRUI7E> If anyone thinks im complaining im not, lol.  Its my third day in ubuntu and I like it.
[23:12] <jNoxx> I can not install any linux
[23:12] <jrib> raevol: k, well shouldn't matter anyway because it is old.  Install nvidia-glx-177 and pastebin all the output you get
[23:12] <Slart> PassionFRUI7E: sorry.. system, administration, software sources
[23:12] <jNoxx> Who can help me with my radeon hd3470 please pm me
[23:12] <Gerinych> how do you change the server for updates
[23:12] <jrib> chamuscas: pastebin your source code and your terminal session
[23:12] <PassionFRUI7E> I got it.  Thank you slart.
[23:12] <sergei> any help on the repo change?
[23:12] <jdsbluedevl> ok, now dropping into Ctrl-Alt-F1 mode and going to delete that demon of a file
[23:13] <jrib> Gerinych: system -> administration -> software sources
[23:13] <mikanov> does ubuntu run nicely in pIII
[23:13] <mikanov> ?
[23:13] <Gerinych> jrib, i tried that but it always goes back to the main server
[23:13] <DrX> anyway to undo a chmod or at least restore OS file & folder permissions?
[23:13] <epifanio> hi, i'm on ubuntu 8.04 on a macbook pro ... i'm having problem to know "how to" set the kerboyard to have the "at" key,  have you any suggestion about ?
[23:13] <jNoxx> ubuntu 8.10 nice
[23:13] <sergei> thank you
[23:13] <Slart> mikanov: you can try xubuntu if you feel the regular ubuntu is a bit slow
[23:13] <PassionFRUI7E> I changed it to united states.  How I update the download?
[23:13] <raevol> jrib just purged it with synaptic, got rid of it in the dpkg -l output. installing nvidia-glx-177 now
[23:13] <AlabamaHit> system, administration, software sources
[23:13] <jrib> DrX: not really
[23:13] <AlabamaHit> PassionFRUI7E: click Reload
[23:13] <Slart> PassionFRUI7E: it will tell you to update when you click ok
[23:13] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: how many backup files did you see?  they should have had dates & times as part of the file names.
[23:13] <AlabamaHit> opps
[23:13] <AlabamaHit> sorry
[23:14] <jNoxx> How i can install drivers for my videocard, pleasee, help
[23:14] <PassionFRUI7E> I see no reload?
[23:14] <jrib> Gerinych: that really shouldn't be happening, but you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list directly if you wish
[23:14] <jNoxx> No results
[23:14] <jdsbluedevl> a LOT of backup files
[23:14] <AlabamaHit> PassionFRUI7E: sorry, though you changed it in Sypantic.
[23:14] <Gnea> carpeliam: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77042 and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_18 explain what it means
[23:14] <scientes> what buses is it safe to change via hibernate change boot
[23:14] <jNoxx> every day i try to install it, but no results
[23:14] <jrib> jNoxx: system -> administration -> hardware drivers
[23:14] <DrX> jrib: even manually?
[23:14] <raevol> jrib http://paste.ubuntu.com/64864
[23:14] <Gnea> carpeliam: did this error happen the first time you booted up ubuntu or did it work before?
[23:14] <chamuscas> jrib, can you be more specific sry =/
[23:14] <noclueguy> Hi guys. Does anyone expierience a kernel panic if he tries to install ubuntu 8.1 from the live CD? It gets to the screen where you're asked for your timezone and then the system hangs. Scroll- and Numlock blinks. The resolution is brillant. Don't know where I could point it at. It ran perfect with 8.04...
[23:14] <jNoxx> I can not startx
[23:14] <scientes> cause linux supports alot of hotlug capibilities
[23:14] <jdsbluedevl> I move one, it screws things up even more
[23:14] <sergei> if i edit sources.list what repo should I add or change to?
[23:14] <jNoxx> only black screen
[23:14] <AlabamaHit> PassionFRUI7E: when you find one click Choose Server
[23:14] <jrib> DrX: well of course you can just chmod it to what ever you want
[23:14] <sergei> or via software sources
[23:15] <HtheB> damn... I dont have sound anymore since I updated to 8.10 :(
[23:15] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: you would want to use the one that corresponds to the date and time it worked at the resolution you want.
[23:15] <speedy> i'm not being able to upgrade, getting W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[23:15] <icqnumber> sergei, if you want to download something very fast, then go for a metalink file, aria2c -M <url of the metalink file>
[23:15] <icqnumber> for example
[23:15] <jdsbluedevl> btw, does anyone know whether the us.archive.ubuntu.com server is being slammed right now?
[23:15] <csilk> noclueguy, did you check the integrity of the iso?
[23:15] <jNoxx> Who have ATI cards?
[23:15] <jrib> chamuscas: I assume you tried to compile something to come to the conclusion about the C compiler before?  Show us what you tried to compile and the commands you ran along with their output on paste.ubuntu.com
[23:15] <jNoxx> hd series?
[23:15] <b3lorixx> I ahve a Nvida GeForce 6150 LD and i cant get it to install teh restricted Driver. Hopw do i fix this?
[23:15] <AlabamaHit> jNoxx: i have a ATI Radeon
[23:15] <corelogik> I don't like upgrading as often,... I'll be sticking with LTS releases for a while
[23:15] <paul__> Is anybody a Wine user?, I am trying to find a way to run Photoshop CS off of my Ubuntu desktop instead of browsing to Wine/C: drive
[23:15] <PassionFRUI7E> I selected a server.  Now what?
[23:15] <PassionFRUI7E> 28.8 KB/s...
[23:15] <csilk> jNoxx, I do
[23:15] <chamuscas> jrib, tank you :)
[23:16] <AlabamaHit> PassionFRUI7E: in sypantic, click reload.
[23:16] <tilde> downloading stuff through synaptic takes a while
[23:16] <AlabamaHit> and run again
[23:16] <carpeliam> Gnea, i got this after installing
[23:16] <noclueguy> csilk:Yea. I checked the integrity of the disc from the live cd and I even ran the memory test.
[23:16] <sergei> thats confusing, what metalink file?
[23:16] <jNoxx> I have hd3470
[23:16] <scientes> corelogik, yeah im going to update my desktop but not anything else
[23:16] <jNoxx> Problem
[23:16] <AlabamaHit> PassionFRUI7E: if its still slow,, Chose a Different server...
[23:16] <jNoxx> Who can help, please pm
[23:16] <runemaste644> The update is stuck on searching for obsolete software and is fluctuating between responsive and unresponsive. What is wrong? I REALLY need help. I have a screenshot here: http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4508/screenshotqx1.png
[23:16] <csilk> jNoxx, i have 2400HD
[23:16] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: yes, it was being slammed a couple of hours ago, and probably will be for the next day or so.
[23:16] <PassionFRUI7E> I got an error when I clicked reload after close after selecting a server.
[23:16] <csilk> noclueguy,  in that case I can't suggest anything else, sorry
[23:16] <andrew_> why does an upgrade from the alternative install disc never work
[23:16] <PassionFRUI7E> Do I have to cancel distro upgrade first?
[23:16] <jrib> runemaste644: let it work
[23:16] <sergei> is there a wiki or web site for info?
[23:16] <noclueguy> don't mind. You tried :-)
[23:16] <AlabamaHit> jNoxx: did you enable it in System ->admintrastion -> hardware drivers?
[23:17] <acemo> When booting the 8.10 live cd it hangs with the message "* Checking battery state...      [ok]" what should be the next thing it tries to do after checking battery state (even though my desktop pc doesn't has a battery)
 don't mind. You tried :-)

[23:17] <tilde> use 8.04
[23:17] <Tetracomm-live> I am trying to install Ubuntu 8.10 with the live cd and the partitioner only shows me a blank screen where there should be a list of the partitions, but gparted shows me a list of them, help?
[23:17] <jNoxx> I can not launck x-server
[23:17] <raevol> jrib, do i need my headers?
[23:17] <Gerinych> jrib k i think i got it working
[23:17] <CShadowRun> Is there any way for me to downgrade back to hardy heron from intrepid ibex?
[23:17] <runemaste644> jrib: it is taking an incredibly long time
[23:17] <jrib> raevol: apt-get will install them automatically
[23:17] <csilk> Technoviking, sata hard disks?
[23:17] <tilde> can someone help me install icewm?
[23:17] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: so did you get the right xorg.conf file?
[23:17] <jrib> CShadowRun: no
[23:17] <AlabamaHit> jNoxx: it could be just because of server lag...
[23:17] <Thedjatclubrock> Is there a way to make the Mac keys not need Fn by default
[23:17] <raevol> jrib did you see my apt-get ouput? http://paste.ubuntu.com/64848
[23:17] <jNoxx> apt-get install not helps
[23:17] <CShadowRun> jrlb dam...guess i'm gonna have to reload then, this is messed up lol
[23:18] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: not yet, I'm trying to update the kernel first, slammed server and all
[23:18] <bungieQord> I'm making a bash shell script. I want it to display my current directory but "My current directory is: " pwd is displaying "My current directory is: pwd" when I run it.. What am I doing wrong?
[23:18] <jrib> tilde: install the icewm package.  For example with apt-get: sudo apt-get install icewm
[23:18] <alcockell> Yow!  Looks as though that's 3 kernel updates that have caused hassles...
[23:18] <runemaste644> if it was going to work it would be finished
[23:18] <jrib> bungieQord: $(pwd)
[23:18] <tilde> thank you
[23:18] <carpeliam> Gnea, the confusing thing about this message is that my machine isn't that old, and it booted off a pretty large windows partition without a problem
[23:18] <tilde> compiling stuff SUCKS
[23:18] <bungieQord> jrib, thanks
[23:18] <PassionFRUI7E> *Unable to get exclusive lock*
[23:18] <tilde> once i have the proper packages it should be easy
[23:18] <CShadowRun> alcockell yup, this one broke my webcam and keyboard.
[23:18] <jrib> raevol: that's aptitude search
[23:18] <Gnea> carpeliam: perhaps it has to do with the way that you partitioned it. is windows on the first primary partition?
[23:18] <DrX> there's no "repair" option to fix tweaked permissions?
[23:19] <techsupport> how can i mount an NTFS drive using terminal permanently ?
[23:19] <DrX> (i mean, even Windows has that!)
[23:19] <raevol> jrib woops: http://paste.ubuntu.com/64864
[23:19] <jrib> DrX: what exactly did you mess up?
[23:19] <tilde> apt-get is slow today
[23:19] <Gnea> !ntfs-3g | techsupport
[23:19] <Tetracomm-live> This is urgent. :(
[23:19] <DrX> jrib: someone told me to do a chmod 777, so it did the whole drive  :*(
[23:19] <jrib> raevol: well see, we have some errors there!
[23:19] <tsrk> Does virtualbox work out of the box with ubuntu 64bit?
[23:19] <dimedo> please help, i can't get fglxr running with a radeon 9600 card. each start i get a warning about low graphics mode where i can configure the driver. if i choose ati or fxglr and use the test button, i'm informed of an error in device configuration.
[23:19] <tsrk> Last time I tried I think I ran into some problem, but that was a while ago
[23:19] <carpeliam> Gnea, yep. windows is on disk1, first partition, and this is the boot partition. ubuntu is on disk0, at the end of the physical disk
[23:19] <jrib> DrX: reinstall.  It will be the fastest solution
[23:19] <DrX> jrib: now it's hosed  :(
[23:19] <raevol> jrib yus :[
[23:19] <andrew_> GAH
[23:20] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: well, when you get the right file in place, all you should have to do is restart your x-session.  are you updating the kernel from an x-session or from a terminal session (ctrl-alt-f1)?
[23:20] <Gnea> Tetracomm-live: well, we're volunteers, so you're going to have to repeat your question every 5 minutes or so until someone asnwers.
[23:20] <spazm> what is a good ftp fxp-client for ubuntu? console...
[23:20] <andrew_> I have yet to have an ubuntu version where the alt cd upgrade works
[23:20] <carpeliam> (Gnea, at least windows calls them disk1 and disk0, not sure what the linux equivalent would be)
[23:20] <DrX> jrib: can't, it's a complex installation, too time consuming
[23:20] <csilk> anyone using the ati catalyst control center?
[23:20] <DrX> jrib: no way to copy the permissions to a file from another OS and then put them back in this OS?
[23:20] <Tetracomm-live> There are no partitions in the partitions list, as if it didn't detect any.
[23:20] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: terminal session, I couldn't get an X session displayed before on my monitor
[23:20] <dimedo> tsrk, for me, it does, with the generic kernel modules
[23:20] <DasEi1>  csilk:on hardy, yes
[23:20] <jrib> raevol: do you have linux-headers-2.6.27-7-generic installed?
[23:20] <tsrk> dimedo, do you have to do anything special to install them?
[23:20] <dimedo> tsrk, but i'm using hardy not intrepid
[23:21] <Thedjatclubrock> !mac
[23:21] <acemo> When booting the 8.10 live cd it hangs with the message "* Checking battery state...      [ok]" what should be the next thing it tries to do after checking battery state? (even though my desktop pc doesn't has a battery)
[23:21] <raevol> jrib no should i get it?
[23:21] <fer> error 13 during my instalation
[23:21] <HtheB> does anyone have problems with sound on 8.10????
[23:21] <Thedjatclubrock> !mac > Thedjatclubrock
[23:21] <fer> can anybody help me
[23:21] <fer> ?
[23:21] <spazm> what is a good ftp fxp-client for ubuntu? console...
[23:21] <csilk> DasEi1, yeah I'm looking for someone who uses it on intrepid
[23:21] <noclueguy> with what fer?
[23:21] <Gnea> carpeliam: okay, there seems to be some translation error :)  how many *physical* hard drives do you have installed? 1 or 2?
[23:21] <PassionFRUI7E> There we go, 400 KB/s
[23:21] <dimedo> tsrk, you have to add yourself to the vboxusers group and install virtualbox-ose-modules-generic package
[23:21] <raevol> jrib should i get that and should i get the restricted modules for my kernel too? they're not isntalled
[23:21] <jrib> DrX: yes, 'man chmod'.  Look for "--reference".  Much easier to reinstall imo
[23:21] <tsrk> ok, thanks
[23:21] <javier> wenax
[23:21] <jrib> raevol: won't hurt I guess
[23:21] <Serraphyn> Odd question possible, anyone know if its possible to use windows XP printer drivers in ubuntu?
[23:21] <carpeliam> Gnea, i have two
[23:22] <sanguisdex> merggggsk! the upgraded just uninstalled my open office 3 and reinstalled 2.4
[23:22] <javier> hi
[23:22] <Slart> Serraphyn: don't think so
[23:22] <prower> Hello :> I am running intrepid, I've noticed an odd problem with the cd/dvd burner i have...if i eject a disc the drive immediately opens and closes
[23:22] <Thedjatclubrock> Where is the mac page on /community/ (MacBook Pro)
[23:22] <ceafu> anyone know where the input devices config file is kept for 8.10?
[23:22] <icqnumber> sergei, see on the wikipedia, what metalink file is... you can find this files on http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/, you can use an application aria2c, it download simultaneous from all mirrors and checks mdsums
[23:22] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: would an old xorg.conf file work for a new monitor?
[23:22] <Gnea> carpeliam: aaaah.... so you installed windows on the first one (disk0) and ubuntu on the second one (disk1)?
[23:22] <dimedo> tsrk, but you can only simulate 32 bit machines. at least i don't know how do use 64
[23:22] <PassionFRUI7E> whats the terminal command to update to 8.1?
[23:22] <jrib> ceafu: /etc/X11/xorg.conf .  A lot of it is done with hotplug now though
[23:22] <jrib> !upgrade > PassionFRUI7E
[23:22] <Slart> Serraphyn: but I'm not 100% sure it can't be done with wine or ndiswrapper or something like that
[23:22] <Serraphyn> Slart, if I could get this lexmark 8350 printer to work with linux I'd have my entire office converted
[23:22] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: i thought you only changed the video cable?
[23:23] <Tetracomm-live> Restarting
[23:23] <raevol> jrib once this is done, reinstall nvidia-glx-177?
[23:23] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: no, this is with new monitor
[23:23] <jrib> raevol: yeah.  If it fails, try purging first
[23:23] <Mal3ko> how do i upgrade to 8.10 from iso? im in 8.04 right now
[23:23] <Slart> Serraphyn: ah.. lexmark.. say no more..
[23:23] <DasEi1>  csilk:haven't tried on the release candidate yet, but the before's betta didnt allow neither nvidia nor ati propitary drivers
[23:23] <jrib> !upgrade > Mal3ko
[23:23] <jdsbluedevl> but with new monitor+defective cable, resolution was ok
[23:23] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: is it the same model of monitor as before?
[23:23] <Madpilot> Serraphyn, Lexmark printers are troublesome. Linux support from Lexmark sucks...
[23:23] <Serraphyn> Slart, isn't NDISwraper for NIC only?
[23:23] <Mal3ko> !upgrade
[23:23] <Serraphyn> Madpilot, I know
[23:23] <Serraphyn> Madpilot, boy do I know
[23:24] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: no, it's an LCD, old one was CRT
[23:24] <Slart> Serraphyn: afaik it's used for all kinds of stuff.. it's used for flash for 64bit ubuntu
[23:24] <carpeliam> Gnea, mostly correct- for some reason, windows calls the physical disk with ubuntu on it "disk0", even though "disk1" is the physical disk that has the MBR
[23:24] <jrib> Thedjatclubrock: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[23:24] <raevol> jrib, the headers is installing an nvidia module, should i try just nvidia-xconfig first and rebootin?
[23:24] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: should I just let ubuntu re-create the xorg.conf file, then?
[23:24] <PassionFRUI7E> Thank you for the bot link, I never knew about that dialog option.
[23:24] <epifanio> !mac > epifanio
[23:24] <Gnea> carpeliam: that's a bit... confusing, indeed. are they IDE or SATA?
[23:24] <jrib> raevol: I'd reinstall nvidia-glx-177.  In any case, make sure you have nvidia loaded with lsmod or make sure you can load it with modprobe
[23:24] <dimedo> i can't get fglxr running with a radeon 9600 card. each start i get a warning about low graphics mode where i can configure the driver. if i choose ati or fxglr and use the test button, i'm informed of an error in device configuration. any ideas?
[23:25] <raevol> jrib just loaded it with modprobe
[23:25] <Serraphyn> hmm
[23:25] <csilk> DasEi1, it does now, this is, it says it's installed but i cant find the control center anywhere
[23:25] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: so it was working ok (at some point) with the new monitor, right?
[23:25] <jrib> raevol: cool :).  Now setup your xorg.conf.  You know how to do that?
[23:25] <raevol> jrib yea thanks, rebooting if i break something i'll fix it :) i'll let you know if this works
[23:25] <PassionFRUI7E> Ahhh....635 KB/S.  The world is a funny place.  I find this out when I'm 3/4 done lol.
[23:25] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: yes
[23:25] <jrib> raevol: note that nvidia-xconfig makes stuff messier than it has to be
[23:26] <legend2440> xchat connects here but channel list does not load or refresh. do i have to forward any ports to get channel list to work?
[23:26] <Slart> hmm.. I really need to stop installing so much weird stuff.. so many packages to update
[23:26] <PassionFRUI7E> Oooh...800.
[23:26] <jdsbluedevl> but with the defective cable
[23:26] <carpeliam> Gnea, they are SATA. i have two partitions on each disk, and disk0 was the only one that had enough room for a new linux partition :/ do i need to have ubuntu on the same physical disk as the MBR? or more specifically, does the "/boot" partition need to be on the same physical disk as the MBR?
[23:26] <raevol> jrib roger just want to get it so i can launch nvidia-settings
[23:26] <thomc> automount doesn't seem to work in intrepid?
[23:26] <jrib> raevol: k
[23:26] <DasEi1> csilk:not in the apps menu (so in hardy) ? tried via cmd-line ?
[23:26] <Mal3ko> well the site doesn mention anything abour upgrading from ubuntu dekstop iso
[23:26] <PassionFRUI7E> Does intrepid really have good wifi?  I had huge problems trying to install atheros.
[23:26] <csilk> DasEi1,  yeah I've used it on hardy and all was well, u cant find it anywhere in intrepid even though it's claiming to be installed
[23:27] <jrib> Mal3ko: it does.  It says you can't upgrade from the desktop iso, only from the alternate iso
[23:27] <Slart> PassionFRUI7E: I think it's supposed to have "better" wifi.. don't know if you can call it "good" yet
[23:27] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: ok, then.  if ubuntu used a failsafe xorg.conf, it should have made a backup on the date-time in question.
[23:27] <PassionFRUI7E> The only things I miss are Visual Studio and the good windows wifi =P
[23:27] <PassionFRUI7E> Okay thanks slart.
[23:27] <elementz> updating to 8.10: now a popup asks wether i want to override changes to /etc/pam.d/common* i have no clue what this is... anybody?
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> PassionFRUI7E: ndiswrapper can be used to fallback on
[23:27] <csilk> DasEi1, what's the bin/command to bring it up ?
[23:27] <jrib> elementz: if you have no clue, then just accept the maintainer's version
[23:27] <csilk> DasEi1, as it's not in the menus
[23:27] <mutedecho> anybody got a quick second for a question?
[23:27] <jrib> mutedecho: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to answer you
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> !pam | elementz
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> !info pam
[23:27] <PassionFRUI7E> ActionParsnip:  I tried using that.  Installed successfully, then did ndiswrapper something -l and it said ndiswrapper doesnt exist.
[23:27] <Slart> elementz: pam is an authentication module I think..
[23:27] <csilk> !ati
[23:28] <Gnea> carpeliam: yeah, grub should only be on the ubuntu system, and you should be able to change the boot sequence from the BIOS, and grub should pick up windows and make it a selection
[23:28] <mutedecho> Ok, here's the deal. Running Ubuntu and want to install a package that says it's for KDE.  Can I still use it under gnome?
[23:28] <ijustam> this was probably my best upgrade yet :O
[23:28] <elementz> Slart: yeah, found that out already...but thats it...
[23:28] <Gnea> carpeliam: er, only on the ubuntu disk
[23:28] <ijustam> mutedecho: sure, if you don't mind installing some KDE packages
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> PassionFRUI7E: theres a tonne of guicdes out there, try a few
[23:28] <Slart> mutedecho: yes.. you'll have to install some kde libs.. but it ought to work
[23:28] <drhe|lap> anyone know much about nxclient and nxserver?? how come i cannot connect remotely to ubuntus nxserver. it works if i connect from local lan. but just not over internet. i have port forward port 22. still nothing. is there some firewall setting or soemthing that i need to enable??? please help.
[23:28] <jrib> mutedecho: yep.  Anything you install through APT will grab everything it needs so you can use it
[23:28] <mutedecho> Ok, thanks a bunch!
[23:28] <tilde> anyone here tried icewm?
[23:28] <jrib> tilde: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to answer you
[23:28] <PassionFRUI7E> I'll keep trying.  I still have a mesa problem that the official site doesn't fix.  Dang new ATI cards.
[23:28] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: yes, Ubuntu has a failsafe
[23:29] <ceafu> jrib: I was under the impression 8.10 ignored xorg.conf for input devices.
[23:29] <tilde> jrib that was my question
[23:29] <tilde> ...
[23:29] <philippe_> Hi. Is it possible to activate vsync in metacity to stop the tearing on the desktop when moving windows? I am using Ubuntu 8.10, Nvidia proprietary driver v177 with a 7800 GTX.
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> tilde: i sugest fluxbox :)
[23:29] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: you can complete the x-session stuff by using ctrl-alt-f2.  login and cd to /etc/X11.  cp (don't mv) the correct file onto xorg.conf.  finally type "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart"  that way you can make sure this works while the kernel update is taking place.
[23:29] <itsatrick> Hey, all.  I have Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex and a GE Wireless Optical Mosue.  Why won't Ubuntu detect the mouse?
[23:29] <tilde> im just trying icewm for the dual mouse cursor stuff
[23:29] <tilde> test
[23:29] <Gnea> carpeliam: i would just boot from the livecd and tell grub to install to the MBR of disk1 (/dev/sdb?), then reboot and tell bios to boot HDD-1 before booting HDD-0
[23:29] <Slart> itsatrick: I'm surprised it doesn't
[23:29] <ijustam> philippe_: I'd imagine not in metacity, probably something you'd have to set within Xorg
[23:29] <HtheB> Does anyone knows how to get "/dev/snd/hwC0D0" ????????????????
[23:30] <Slart> itsatrick: no change if you unplug the reciever and plug it in again?
[23:30] <HtheB> I installed Ubuntu 8.10 and I dont have it anymore :(
[23:30] <csilk> DasEi1,  found it ;)
[23:30] <Gnea> carpeliam: theoretically, you should still be able to boot into windows (if it's XP... if it's Vista, not sure..) and fix the MBR of disk0 from there
[23:30] <jrib> ceafu: I believe you can still override settings there (I may be wrong).  You want to look into hotplug in any case
[23:30] <philippe_> ijustam, ok
[23:30] <raevol> jrib it works, thank you so much i want to have your babies
[23:30] <PassionFRUI7E> Any news on chrome for linux?
[23:30] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: have display back, but still bad resolution
[23:30] <jrib> raevol: no problem
[23:30] <jrib> PassionFRUI7E: ask google?
[23:30] <TTThomas> Does the intrepid release include a version for netbooks?
[23:30] <Gnea> HtheB: are you sure that's what you need?
[23:30] <Slart> PassionFRUI7E: I think you'll have to ask google
[23:30] <HtheB> Gnea, yeah
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> PassionFRUI7E: you can run it via wine
[23:31] <jrib> ceafu: what do you want to change?
[23:31] <carpeliam> Gnea, unfortunately my install CD is also botched :| so i'm downloading another one... we'll see how it goes :) but i'll try that
[23:31] <Pensador> Good evening
[23:31] <Gnea> HtheB: what's using it?
[23:31] <Slart> PassionFRUI7E: last I heard it was "coming when it's done"
[23:31] <HtheB> Alsa
[23:31] <HtheB> (sound)
[23:31] <Gnea> carpeliam: okay :)
[23:31] <cousteau> ok; I re-installed Nvidia drivers with Envy and now I am in 800x600
[23:31] <PassionFRUI7E> jrib:  I like asking the insiders =P  You guys know stuff the day its released.  Google isn't immediate.  Lol thanks dude.
[23:31] <ijustam> here's my question for the night: did they get rid of the "home location" feature in the clock app?
[23:31] <tilde> windows 7 was leaked
[23:31] <tilde> ha
[23:31] <PassionFRUI7E> Rape.
[23:31] <raevol> jrib thanks again, byes
[23:31] <gub> hahaha
[23:31] <Gnea> HtheB: really? I thought alsa would provide that... I was wondering what *program* used it..
[23:31] <jrib> PassionFRUI7E: I mean ask the google company, not the search engine.  It's up to them really
[23:31] <csilk> I thought official advice was to not use envy?
[23:31] <HtheB> Gnea, I had to do some actions before I could use my soundcard
[23:31] <cousteau> how can I install the Nvidia drivers?
[23:31] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: then it's the wrong version of the file.  go back to the other terminal session (ctrl-alt-f2) and look for the one that corresponds to the date and time it last worked correctly.  that should be the file you want.
[23:31] <Pensador> Please, is anybody having problems connecting to a Nokia 6300 through a USB cable?
[23:31] <tilde> synaptic
[23:31] <HtheB> well....
[23:31] <Gnea> HtheB: what soundcard?
[23:31] <tilde> if you cant figure out how to install nvidia drivers...
[23:31] <jdsbluedevl> ok
[23:31] <jrib> csilk: officially, the new envy is ok
[23:31] <HtheB> what I mean is: there is no hwC0D0 at all
[23:32] <HtheB> ALC889
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> Pensador: does it show up in sudo fdisk -l ?
[23:32] <csilk> jrib, ok cool
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> HtheB: id resetup sound
[23:32] <PassionFRUI7E> jrib:  I'm not that worried =P  I'm hoping to get into their Pittsburgh office as a Software Engineer.  But I bet everyone wants in...
[23:32] <Pensador> I'll try that, ActionParsnip
[23:32] <ceafu> jrib. it appears 8.10 has the th.ree finger tap as right click by default. brand new install. I would like to use 2 fingers, or even better one finger in lower right
[23:32] <Gnea> HtheB: is there anything in /dev/snd/ ?
[23:32] <PassionFRUI7E> Oh my god this built in dictionary is NICE!
[23:32] <csilk> yet again ubuntu has been flawless in dealing with my grfx card ;)
[23:32] <HtheB> yeah:
[23:32] <itsatrick> Pensador: Linux has had trouble with most phones.  I would suggest using bluetooth to transfer data, or flash memory.
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> PassionFRUI7E: in what app?
[23:32] <Dextorion> PassionFRUI7E: take a look at chromium.
[23:32] <bungieQord> I'm trying to write a shell script that will take a login name as an argument and output the home directory of the user, can anyone help a noob out?
[23:32] <Gnea> HtheB: such as?
[23:32] <Pensador> Itsatrick, I used to be able to do that with Hardy Heron
[23:32] <Gortha1> has anyone noticed a "better" PulseAudio in Ibex?
[23:32] <jdsbluedevl> well, for the moment it worked, let's see what happens when I log in
[23:32] <jrib> ceafu: did you try using xorg.conf to set that up?
[23:32] <HtheB> Gnea: controlC0  pcmC0D0c   pcmC0D0p   pcmC0D1p   pcmC0D2c   timer
[23:32] <jkristheking> dose the xbox 360 controller work with nexuiz?
[23:33] <Slart> Pensador: linux and cell phones are.. well.. more misses than hits afaik
[23:33] <Pensador> From what I googled, there was a specific NEW bug with Nokia 6300 on kernel 2.6.27
[23:33] <Gnea> HtheB: okay. do you have a /dev/dsp?
[23:33] <antoranz> Guys! How do I enable the nvidia driver on a presario 3317la?
[23:33] <PassionFRUI7E> Dextorion:  I don't feel like installing wine.  I'm going for a sleek system.  I'll just boot up vista sometime if I want windows apps.
[23:33] <ceafu> not yet, because I thought it ignored it, but I'll try and find out in about 10 minutes
[23:33] <Pensador> But no one ever mentioned it again from 2.6.27-5
[23:33] <tovella> csilk: which grfx card do you have?
[23:33] <jrgp> does intrepid support GeForce 6600's?
[23:33] <antoranz> cause in the "proprietary drivers" application, it says nothing about the nvidia card
[23:33] <Gnea> jrgp: yes.
[23:33] <Pensador> now we're at 2.6.27-7 and the problem is still there
[23:33] <PassionFRUI7E> Pidgin is amazing.  My god this program does it all perfectly.
[23:33] <cowbud> hardy uses /dev/mapper/* for lvm right? among other things..
[23:33] <Slart> jrgp: can't imagine that it doesn't
[23:33] <Pensador> It's because it's a new bug that I'm asking
[23:33] <PassionFRUI7E> jrgp:  Tell me your result.  I might install ubuntu on my desktop PC with that card.  Thanks!
[23:33] <Gortha1> Passion, First time in a buntu?
[23:33] <Dextorion> PassionFRUI7E: Oh, that one is running on wine? My bad. Just heard that it was somewhat like chrome on linux.
[23:34] <PassionFRUI7E> I got it 3 days ago.
[23:34] <jrgp> PassionFRUI7E, ok
[23:34] <Slart> PassionFRUI7E: nah.. transferring files is still a kludge.. if it even works
[23:34] <PassionFRUI7E> I love ubuntu.
[23:34] <HtheB> let me see Gnea
[23:34] <csilk> tovella, ATI Radeon 2400 HD  and in my laptop INTEL extreme 915 onboard
[23:34] <TTThomas> the review of intrepid at http://linuxformat.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=759 mentions a "mobile usb image" and has a screen shot, but I havent been able to track it down. does anyone know where I can get it?
[23:34] <HorizonXP> !ubuntu
[23:34] <jdsbluedevl> great, new problem, now all desktop icons are missing, and I can't access system menus
[23:34] <HorizonXP> !nvidia
[23:34] <HtheB> Gnea: no
[23:34] <Slart> TTThomas: I think it's called ubuntu MID
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> bungieQord: theres a file with that info I believe, you can just grep it a little
[23:34] <PassionFRUI7E> I'm majoring in Computer Science(Programming).  Ubuntu is cool.
[23:34] <Slart> !mid
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> bungieQord: let me websearch
[23:34] <Gortha1> i cant remember the last time i used windows, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND WINE
[23:34] <PassionFRUI7E> linuxcommands.org got me kickstarted.  Props to that site for any beginners in here.
[23:34] <Gnea> HtheB: try this:  sudo modprobe snd_pcm_oss    and check again
[23:35]  * jrib highly recommends native linux apps
[23:35] <tilde> there is supposed to be a shooting at my school tomorrow :(
[23:35] <abe3k> hi guys, I just upgraded to 8.10 and I can't seem to find where to configure my DNS addresses ?
[23:35] <TTThomas> slart: the ubuntu MID is for touchscreen mobile devices
[23:35] <tovella> csilk: ...going to upgrade from an ATI x1550.  are you pleased with the performance of the 2400 HD?
[23:35] <Pensador> ActionParsnip, nop, it does not appear with sudo fdisk -l
[23:35] <PassionFRUI7E> Bring a crowbar.
[23:35] <tilde> dude
[23:35] <HtheB> Gnea, isnt there a way to get back to my alsa drivers?
[23:35] <Slart> TTThomas: ah.. sorry.. indeed it is
[23:35] <PassionFRUI7E> Crowbars do everything.  Deflect bullets, open doors, bash brains...
[23:35] <Gortha1> goes without saying jrib, but sometimes new users get a little winsick
[23:35] <tilde> if i am on the first floor and the shooters are on the 2nd/third floor and not on the 1st i am running like hell
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> Pensador: then try rebooting the phone
[23:36] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: when I try to run nvidia settings, I get an error saying "X Window System error" and the error is "BadName (named color or font does not exist)"
[23:36] <Ljudkort> tilde: how do you know?
[23:36] <csilk> tovella,  I haven't used it for anything to stressful, I'm not a gamer so I dont know how it handles high loads etc... but in general yes I am
[23:36] <pur-angst> tell me
[23:36] <ubuntu> the 8.10 install disc drops me too a shell everytime, what is the command to install through console?
[23:36] <Pensador> shall I reboot the phone with the USB cable still plugged, ActionParsnip?
[23:36] <csilk> tovella,  it works perfectly in ubuntu, that's what I mainly care about
[23:36] <PassionFRUI7E> Does anybody know if there's any improvements in 8.10 for ATI cards?
[23:36] <jdsbluedevl> tovella: details of error are "serial 312 error_code 15 request_code 45 minor_code 0"
[23:36] <jdsbluedevl> does that mean anything to you?
[23:36] <Gnea> HtheB: this is an extension that is part of the alsa driver
[23:36] <abe3k> where do I find the ethernet DNS address configuration in ubuntu 8.10 ?
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> Pensador: try it
[23:36] <tilde> because yesterday there were 17 cop cars at my school, fbi agents, a swat team+van, cops on the roof, and cops inside the school with glocks armed and ready to shoot
[23:36] <PassionFRUI7E> Cops on the roof?  Ouch.  He's screwed.
[23:36] <dekushrub> does ubuntu 8.10 have less packages than 8.04 or is it because I went from 32 bit to 64 bit?
[23:36] <drhe|lap> tilde, what happend?
[23:36] <Slart> !ot | tilde
[23:36] <tilde> 17 co pcars
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> bungieQord: you can check the username exists on the system with /etc/passwd
[23:37] <tilde> drh|lap there was a rumor of a shooting
[23:37] <Ljudkort> tilde: Aha? So now they believe it to go for tomorrow?
[23:37] <tilde> got spread around and shit
[23:37] <csilk> PassionFRUI7E, For my ati card the driver has been updated, not sure what improvements it has made, all i know is that it just works
[23:37] <PassionFRUI7E> While installing updates I got "An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for evolution-alarm-notify. Some of your configuration settings may not work properly."  Any ideas?
[23:37] <tilde> my friend got stabbed over the weekend so yeah :(
[23:37] <PassionFRUI7E> Thank you csilk.
[23:37] <tilde> thats probably why
[23:37] <HtheB> Gnea, done, but still no "/dev/dsp
[23:37] <PassionFRUI7E> "Adding client to server's list failed, CORBA error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0"
[23:37] <Gnea> tilde: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic plesae
[23:37] <tilde> its probably going to happen tomorrow, last year there were 3-5 bomb threats
[23:37] <tilde> k
[23:37] <Gnea> *please
[23:37] <Ljudkort> xD
[23:37] <tovella> jdsbluedevl: sounds like your system has some deeper issues than I can help with from here.  I don't have an nvidia card.
[23:37] <Ljudkort> Where do you live, tilde?
[23:37] <Tom_Davis> question: what did they do to the sound between saturday and now? IT WORKED SATURDAY, I did an install of rc1 worked well, release, not so much
[23:37] <tilde> ljudkort arkansas
[23:37] <tilde> but my school is a gang area
[23:37] <Ljudkort> ./
[23:37] <Ljudkort> :/*
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> bungieQord: http://bhagwat-masalkar.blogspot.com/2008/09/where-linux-user-group-information.html
[23:38] <tilde> i live in an upper class neighborhood
[23:38] <jrib> tilde: let's try to stay on-topic here
[23:38] <Gnea> tilde, Ljudkort: #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:38] <dimedo> i can't get fglxr running with a radeon 9600 card. each start i get a warning about low graphics mode where i can configure the driver. if i choose ati or fxglr and use the test button, i'm informed of an error in device configuration. any ideas?
[23:38] <Slart> tilde, Ljudkort, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic.. you'll just get kicked if you keep this up
[23:38] <HorizonXP> hey, i can't seem to get my nvidia driver working. any help?
[23:38] <PassionFRUI7E> Run failsafe mode dimedo.
[23:38] <cmdbbq> um, i need help where can I find the default text for /etc/sudoers? I, uh, lost mine
[23:38] <ceafu> jrib: thanks for your input but I have to go eat some stew. I'll try xorg and see what happens
[23:38] <Gnea> HtheB: can you pastebin the output of the dmesg command?
[23:38] <Ljudkort> Sorry, Slart, Gnea.
[23:38] <dimedo> PassionFRUI7E, and what then?
[23:38] <PassionFRUI7E> It completely fixed my system, other than some tweaks I needed to do.
[23:38] <Pensador> ActionParsnip, the phone would not boot with the USB cable on, so I took it off for a sec and connected it again after powering the phone. Still, it is not detected by Ubuntu
[23:38] <PassionFRUI7E> Restart.
[23:38] <tilde> ctrl alt backspace
[23:38] <ceafu> stew and cold weather.  mmm good.
[23:38] <PassionFRUI7E> I gave up, restarted, it worked fine!
[23:38] <PassionFRUI7E> XD
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> Pensador: hmm, whats the phone model again
[23:39] <dekushrub> is the ubuntu 64 bit repository smaller than the 32 bit?
[23:39] <abe3k> where do I find the ethernet DNS addresses configuration in ubuntu 8.10 ?
[23:39] <Slart> dekushrub: huh.. don't think so.. there might be one or two apps not available.. but nothing noticable
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> abe3k: /etc/resolv.conf specifies nameservers
[23:39] <tovella> dimedo: are you sure fglrx supports the 9600?  i thought it was for newer cards than that?
[23:39] <HtheB> Gnea, dmesg?
[23:39] <jimminy_cricket> im having some problems with gdm, it isn't starting properly and i can't reconfigure it without shutting all x sessions
[23:39] <PassionFRUI7E> We should get a community effort going for rapid application development, like a better C# for linux.
[23:39] <jimminy_cricket> anyone got any ideas?
[23:39] <Pensador> ActionParsnip, it's Nokia 6300. It worked with the kernel versions packaged with Hardy Heron. It does not connect now that I upgraded to Intrepid
[23:39] <b3lorixx> UBuntu 8.10 the window border liek kep getting messed up any ideas?
[23:40] <noclueguy> jimminy_cricket
[23:40] <epifanio> so nobody knows hot to have "@" character,  on a macbook pro :-(
[23:40] <dekushrub> slart, i'm missing cheese, gnome-do, pidgin plugins, etc...
[23:40] <PassionFRUI7E> b3lorixx:  Did you try going to a simpler window theme?
[23:40] <Gnea> HtheB: yes, it's a command that shows you all of the kernel debugging messages - best way, is to: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit
[23:40] <porter1> jimminy_cricket, does dmesg report anything?
[23:40] <cmdbbq> any way i can get a new copy of sudoers?
 : thanks man I appreciate it :)
[23:40] <jrib> cmdbbq: why?  I can pastebin mine
[23:40] <b3lorixx> PassionFRUI7E: im using the defualt fresh install one
[23:40] <Gnea> HtheB: using the pastebin site means that you won't have to worry about flooding in here
[23:40] <noclueguy> white
[23:40] <cmdbbq> i uh lost mine
[23:40] <Pensador> In fact, ActionParsnip, if I boot from the older kernel, the phone is detected. It's a new bug. From what I googled, people stopped mentioning it since 2.6.27-5
[23:40] <Slart> dekushrub: I had most of those installed on 8.04.. I'm almost finised updating to 8.10.. I can let you know in a minute or so
[23:40] <PassionFRUI7E> b3lorixx:  All eyecandy disabled?
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> Pensador: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1779032&postcount=3
[23:40] <noclueguy> sorry didn't want to write that :-(
[23:40] <Slart> !info cheese
[23:40] <paul__> Is anybody using Wine to run win32 applications?
[23:40] <Pensador> but it's 2.6.27-7 and it's still there
[23:40] <Pensador> thanks
[23:40] <jimminy_cricket> porter1 what do you want out of the results?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> Pensador: http://wammu.eu/
[23:41] <Slart> dekushrub: have you enabled the universe repos?
[23:41] <b3lorixx> PassionFRUi7E: yup
[23:41] <blk> i'm running a custom kernel (without initrd) - is there a way to use UUID for finding the root partition, currently only works with root=/dev/sda3
[23:41] <xnid> Any other having wireless problems on 8.10 with a Intel 4965?
[23:41] <cmdbbq> was trying to disable the sudo timeout, don't know how to use vi, and really screwed up trying to fix
[23:41] <jrib> cmdbbq: uh huh... http://pastebin.com/f30815209
[23:41] <porter1> jimminy_cricket, see if you can find anything of use in relation to gdm?
[23:41] <jarco> how to install flash in firefox?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> paul__: i do
[23:41] <Swian> anyone upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 and experienced problems?
[23:41] <PassionFRUI7E> b3lorixx:  You got me stumped.  Might want to find a pro.
[23:41] <Slart> !flash
[23:41] <jimminy_cricket> nope
[23:41] <igors_> hi all..i have my mic working on my macbook, but show could i switch from the macbook's mic, and another mic i've plugged ?
[23:41] <dimedo> tovella, it seems to support mobile 9600 at least. but the normal ati driver doesn't work either. any alternatives?
[23:41] <tovella> is network-manager still not saving custom settings for everyone else, or just me?
[23:41] <drhe|lap> does ubuntu have yast2?
[23:41] <jrib> jarco: visit http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/about/ and click on the yellow bar at the top
[23:41] <PassionFRUI7E> b3lorixx:  I myself have a graphics issue, thats why im trying intrepid, installing atm.
[23:41] <HtheB> Gnea, no no i mean what command should I typ to get the output
[23:42] <jrib> drhe|lap: what does that do?
[23:42] <drog> Hey, anyone here know the package to add the 'custom' or 'advanced' or whichever it is to the Visual Effects menu?
[23:42] <noclueguy> drhe|lap: no that's in the suse distribution.
[23:42] <Gnea> HtheB: dmesg | pastebinit
[23:42] <djhash> ols
[23:42] <drhe|lap> yast 2 is some sort of file/apps manager i think
[23:42] <woody86> when I connect to my network with 8.10 on my laptop or desktop it kicks the other computer off the network?? Anyone have any ideas?
[23:42] <drhe|lap> okay
[23:42] <Slart> !ccsm | drog
[23:42] <TTThomas> Does anyone know about a Mobile USB image for Intrepid (not the MID image)
[23:42] <drog> Slart, it's installed already
[23:42] <Swian> any problems upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10?
[23:42] <woody86> when I connect to my wireless network with either my laptop or desktop in 8.10 it will kick the other computer off the network, anyone have any ideas??
[23:42] <caglar> can anybody help me
[23:42] <blk> drhe|lap: no, that's SuSE - it's a system-configuration tool
[23:42] <jkristheking> 8.10 is WAY BETTER
[23:42] <drog> Slart, that was my first attempt to fix it
[23:42] <Swian> better how?
[23:42] <caglar> my upgrade chashed
[23:42] <jimminy_cricket> 8.10 killed my pc :(
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> woody86: yu may have a conflicting MAC address
[23:42] <jkristheking> the only problem is that the scale plugin is FUCKED
[23:43] <cmdbbq> jrib, thank you very much
[23:43] <drhe|lap> how is it way better? heh
[23:43] <Slart> drog: try installing the compiz-icon thingy.. it has an option if starting the config app
[23:43] <cmdbbq> very very very much
[23:43] <tovella> dimedo: not sure... i accidentally dropped my 9600 & updated the hardware to support a pci-x 16 (ATI x1550).
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> !oh my | jkristheking
[23:43] <xnid> I can't even find any other wireless networks after installing 8.10
[23:43] <sebsebseb> jimminy_cricket: ah right ok, what happended exactly
[23:43] <KJ83The2nd> can someone help me in a private window with how to patiotion my harddrive when dualbooting?
[23:43] <woody86> ActionParsnip- how do I find that out? and how do i fix it?
[23:43] <Gortha1> any recommendation on what to backup other than xorg, before the upgrade?...
[23:43] <jkristheking> sorry -.-
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> !ohmy | jkristheking
[23:43] <jrib> Gortha1: any data you care about
[23:43] <amortvigil> can i remove bonobo-activation-server savely it causes a big login problem for me?
[23:43] <PassionFRUI7E> Is there ANY way to get flash on 64 bit?  Download a 32 bit browser?
[23:43] <jimminy_cricket> after the reboot gdm is fooked
[23:43] <fallore> is there a way to have my irssi terminal window named irssi in the bottom panel?
[23:43] <HtheB> Gnea, http://pastebin.com/f12ce1aca
[23:43] <b3lorixx> PassionFRUI7E: it does this http://i36.tinypic.com/294gum9.jpg
[23:43] <jkristheking> sorry sorry sorry :[
[23:43] <jrib> PassionFRUI7E: visit http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/about/ and click on the yellow bar at the top
[23:43] <jimminy_cricket> won't start properly
[23:43] <Slart> PassionFRUI7E: yes there is
[23:43] <Gortha1> all data is saved on mounted disks
[23:43] <Dextorion> good night
[23:43] <jimminy_cricket> can't reconfig it
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> woody86: ifconfig on linux / ipconfig /all on windows
[23:43] <Slart> PassionFRUI7E: and no, you don't have to run 32 bit firefox
[23:43] <jimminy_cricket> don't know where to go
[23:43] <PassionFRUI7E> Thank you.
[23:44] <Swian> so no one can say whats "way better"
[23:44] <sahak> Every time I login into Ubuntu, metacity is trying to find .config/metacity/sessions/1064933de98e8b0ee12254045404160500000174600005.ms and fails to find it and complains about it. Is there a way to fix this bug?
[23:44] <Slack> anyone know why when i run something on wine it messes up my display settings
[23:44] <legend2440> dimedo: are you on hardy or intrepid?
[23:44] <XVampireX> Hi
[23:44] <dimedo> legend2440, hardy
[23:44] <Pensador> ActionParsnip, I have no bluetooth receptors on my laptop, though. Which is why I complain about the fact my phone does not connect through USB cable
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> Slack: configure the app better
[23:44] <luigi> !it
[23:44] <tsukasa_> is anyone using a logitech wave keyboard? I want to know if they can be re-arranged to dvorak easily (eg the keys are all the same size and height)
[23:44] <XVampireX> I just installed a PCI capture card
[23:44] <woody86> ActionParsnip- ok, I ran it, what am i looking for?
[23:44] <LF|Irssi> Swian: the synaptic instant search is "Way better" :)
[23:44] <Pensador> anymore, that is
[23:44] <jrib> sahak: hey me too :)  I haven't bothered to sort that out yet, let me know if you figure it out
[23:44] <Gortha1> i guess i should state, any config files other than xorg
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> woody86: the hardware address or mac address
[23:44] <XVampireX> how do I check if the card is supported?
[23:45] <Swian> ok, that's one thing
[23:45] <PassionFRUI7E> That is...very odd.  Sorry I'm still learning too, ask someone more experienced.
[23:45] <ldiamond> I want to boot the install CD from a USB Hard drive. What part of the CD is the LIVE part?
[23:45] <LF|Irssi> screenlets is "Way better"
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> woody86: mines HWaddr 00:18:f3:a9:6f:b8
[23:45] <vanberge> could anybody help me get my nvidia restricted drivers working?  i see two version (17 and 177) but neither one will activate and i don't know why
[23:45] <sean> Hi everyone...
[23:45] <HtheB> Gnea?
[23:45] <jrib> Gortha1: not really.  backup anything you've modified
[23:45] <woody86> ActionParsnip- Also, this works fine when I'm running Vista on my desktop, it's just when I'm running 8.10 on them both that it happens
[23:45] <noclueguy> Is there like a known issues page for 8.1? didn't find much but I got a hard time installing it.
[23:45] <amortvigil> can i remove bonobo-activation-server savely it causes a big login problem for me?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> woody86: do it on the other system, make sure they dont clash
[23:45] <tovella> sahak: i would try to open a terminal window and type "metacity --replace"  let us know how it works out.
[23:45] <LF|Irssi> new xchat that is "Way better" that's 3, im on a roll here :)
[23:45] <legend2440> dimedo: i have ati radeon 9600 with fglrx drivers. i just enabled them in system>admin>hardware drivers to get them to work
[23:45] <PassionFRUI7E> @Adobe flash link> "XML Parsing Error: undefined entity
[23:45] <PassionFRUI7E> Location: chrome://mozapps/content/plugins/pluginInstallerWizard.xul
[23:45] <PassionFRUI7E> Line Number 70, Column 5:    <description value="&pluginWizard.checkingForPlugins.description.label;"/>
[23:45] <PassionFRUI7E> ----^"
[23:45] <FloodBot3> PassionFRUI7E: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:45] <jrib> noclueguy: checked the release notes?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> woody86: if you are using static ips that can do it too
[23:45] <PassionFRUI7E> Oh, whoops, sorry forgot to reformat.
[23:45] <Gortha1> jrib, we both know i cant remember every specific thing ive modified.
[23:46] <noclueguy> nope
[23:46] <xnid> Does ayone have a dell xps m1530 with 8.10 working with wireless network?
[23:46] <Gnea> HtheB: yeah, was reading
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> woody86: something in the network config is clashing
[23:46] <jimminy_cricket> is there any way i can get a fresh copy of the gdm config and replace what i have
[23:46] <__> will intrepid work on wubi?
[23:46] <jimminy_cricket> the reconfig isnt working
[23:46] <Swian> LF, I'm using google gadgets already
[23:46] <Swian> looks a lot like screenlets
[23:46] <vanberge> lmao this # is crazy
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> xnid: run lspci to see what wireless you have
[23:46] <Gnea> HtheB: is that a laptop or desktop system?
[23:46] <jrib> Gorthax: the upgrade will tell you if it is about to replace a file you have modified
[23:46] <LF|Irssi> google gadgets is too laggy for my machine
[23:46] <ldiamond> I need help booting the Live CD from a hard drive instead of a CD.
[23:46] <Gorthax> ahh
[23:46] <Swian> runs fine on mine
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> xnid: then websearch on how to setup from ther
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> e
[23:46] <tsukasa_> is anyone using a logitech wave keyboard? I want to know if they can be re-arranged to dvorak easily (eg the keys are all the same size and height)
[23:46] <noclueguy> I'll do so thx jrib
[23:46] <jimminy_cricket> anyone?
[23:46] <sahak> tovella: "metacity --replace" worked with now warnings. i need to log out and log in again to see if it fixed the problem though
[23:47] <Gnea> !anyone | jimminy_cricket
[23:47] <Gorthax> thank you, been quite a while since i used the upgrade route.  I usually archive the disk, and use another
[23:47] <Swian> think I'll wait a bit
[23:47] <jimminy_cricket> i did
[23:47] <jimminy_cricket> if you read it all
[23:47] <sahak> tovella: with now warnings -> with no warnings
[23:47] <rano> hfgdhffg
[23:47] <rano> jftzjtz
[23:47] <b3lorixx> !nvidia
[23:47] <Slart> jimminy_cricket: just repeat the whole question every 5 minutes or so.. people join/leave/come back all the time
[23:47] <woody86> ActionParsnip- also, I can't run the terminal on my desktop, it just shows a blank white screen, without text or a menu on it
[23:47] <jrib> tsukasa_: ask ##hardware maybe, it's not really on-topic here.  Anyway, why bother rearranging the keys?  Just change the keymap.  You're going to be touch-typing anyway
[23:47] <tovella> sahak: ok, again let us know how to works out.
[23:47] <jimminy_cricket> gdm is completely screwed, starts up with nothing but a bland orange colour screen so it needs to be reconfigured
[23:47] <tilde> so how well does icewm work
[23:47] <jimminy_cricket> or at least i assume
[23:47] <Slart> jimminy_cricket: you'll get an answer sooner or later.. use the time to search the forums
[23:47] <sahak> tovella: ok, i'll be right back.
[23:47] <badfish69> will python script only run in terminal if there's no gui?
[23:47] <HtheB> Gnea, a laptop :)
[23:47] <PassionFRUI7E> If you got a problem and people are stumped, go learn terminal!  www.linuxcommands.org
[23:47] <jimminy_cricket> i have been searching the forums
[23:47] <Gnea> jimminy_cricket: you should be able to: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[23:48] <jimminy_cricket> thats why im here
[23:48] <replman> Hi! Without having a cdrom-drive, is it possible to install ubuntu? I have an old one running (5.04)
[23:48] <jrib> badfish69: what do you mean?
[23:48] <HtheB> Gnea, Acer 6920G
[23:48] <Gnea> HtheB: which one? make/model?
[23:48] <b3lorixx> Anyone please help me solve this window border problem http://i36.tinypic.com/294gum9.jpg
[23:48] <badfish69> ie: clicking "run" rather than "run in terminal" results in nothing happening
[23:48] <tsukasa_> jrib: i still occasionally look down even when im touch typing
[23:48] <Gorthax> upgrade started, that was a very painful click
[23:48] <Gnea> awesome
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> woody86: i dont know aout that, i use yakuake in kde. you could try tilda maybe
[23:48] <jrib> !install | replman
[23:48] <Gnea> !laptop
[23:48] <jimminy_cricket> i tried reconfig gdm and it says it will take effect when all x sessions have ended
[23:48] <badfish69> while "run in terminal" works perfectly
[23:48] <jimminy_cricket> after a reboot there was no fix
[23:48] <ldiamond> Does anyone know how I can boot Ubuntu 8.10 Install CD from a hard drive?
[23:48] <LF|Irssi> PassionFRUI7E: with webmin not working, i'll be at that terminal help site every 5 minutes :)
[23:48] <sebsebseb> jimminy_cricket: what went wrong with your update exactly
[23:48] <jrib> badfish69: it should still run, you just won't see any output
[23:48] <jimminy_cricket> exactly what went wrong is what i just said
[23:48] <Slart> ldiamond: not sure it can be done.. unless you do it in some weird weird way
[23:48] <PassionFRUI7E> Hehe =P
[23:48] <cmdbbq> jrib thanks again
[23:48] <jimminy_cricket> when i rebooted i got a blank orange screen and gdm didnt load
[23:48] <badfish69> jrib: exactly what i needed to know, thanks
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> ldiamond: you can add a line to grub (i believe) to boot the iso
[23:49] <dug_> Ever since I updated to Intrepid, i keep having to re-enter the password to access my wireless network.  Is there a way to have ubuntu remember that password again?
[23:49] <sahak> tovella: still the same problem persists
[23:49] <Gorthax> very impressed with "festival" and the high quality voices
[23:49] <jimminy_cricket> the debug says it didnt load kdm but has nothing going on with gdm
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> ldiamond: its a lot of work
[23:49] <tesseracter> hi. just went to 8.10, but i dont think thats part of the problem. first time, login works fine. if i logout, the login screen is slightly glitchy, and if i can login, it glitches out and X cannot find a resolution than works. thats if anyone responds.
[23:49] <Thedjatclubrock> Install seems stuck
[23:49] <Slart> ActionParsnip: huh? grub can boot from an iso?? that sounds awesome
[23:49] <sahak> tovella: Window manager warning: Failed to read saved session file /home/sahak/.config/metacity/sessions/10bde866213e4ba245122541051669840700000198020005.ms: Failed to open file '/home/sahak/.config/metacity/sessions/10bde866213e4ba245122541051669840700000198020005.ms': No such file or directory
[23:49] <legend2440> can someone who uses xchat tell me if their Network>Channels box works. can you choose channels from channel list without it freezing up?
[23:49] <Thedjatclubrock> Install seems stuck. Scanning the mirror....
[23:49] <earthen> Hey guys i'm try to find the name of the program that gives me the tool bar similar to that of the mac tool bar
[23:49] <Slart> earthen: awn is one I think
[23:49] <Gorthax> earthen Avant
[23:49] <tovella> sahak: let me do some looking on my machine...
[23:49] <Thedjatclubrock> earthen: There is an applet
[23:49] <PassionFRUI7E> eearthen:  Graphically or functionally?
[23:50] <Thedjatclubrock> Oh
[23:50] <csilk> earthen,  you mean the dock? try cairo dock
[23:50] <ldiamond> ActionParsnip: Yea how can boot a ISO?
[23:50] <Thedjatclubrock> :p
[23:50] <jrib> earthen: awn?
[23:50] <Thedjatclubrock> AWN is better
[23:50] <Gnea> HtheB: hrm.. have you read this? http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=884101
[23:50] <dimedo> PassionFRUI7E, the trick with the recovery mode worked, now my problem is that after loading the ubuntu menu correctly, the screen turns white completely (while still providing a mouse arrow)
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> ldiamond: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/grub-booting-an-iso-image-315354/
[23:50] <Gorthax> cairo is a hog
[23:50] <Swian> legend2440 works fine for me
[23:50] <csilk> to be fair they all fail
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> Slarthttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/grub-booting-an-iso-image-315354/
[23:50] <dug_> earthen: you mean a dock?
[23:50] <sahak> tovella: do "less ~/.xsession-errors"
[23:50] <PassionFRUI7E> dimendo:  I have that problem.
[23:50] <Thedjatclubrock> Install seems stuck. Scanning the mirror.... Are they going to make the install fail?
[23:50] <legend2440> Swian: ok thanks mine freezes up
[23:50] <Slart> ActionParsnip: thanks
[23:50] <Gorthax> if you must have a dock, use AWN
[23:50] <PassionFRUI7E> dimendo:  Disable visual effects in failsafe.
[23:50] <earthen> dug_,  yeah
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> Slart: its hardly worth it
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> Slart: ldiamond: http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t305843.html
[23:51] <||Okkoto||> Hey guys, have you heard of the neat free XBox 360 Elite giveaway promoted by companies like Blockbuster, Amazon, Netflix, etc?
[23:51] <PassionFRUI7E> Then restart, and it works.  I'm still trying to get eyecandy back.  I gathered that mesa graphics drivers are taking over ati ones.
[23:51] <dimedo> PassionFRUI7E, well, good to know you
[23:51] <PassionFRUI7E> =P
[23:51] <PassionFRUI7E> my aim is self titled if you need help.
[23:51] <||Okkoto||> My buddy just recently got his XBox 360, and now that I've seen it, I'm trying to do the same
[23:51] <HtheB> Gnea, I read that before yeah :) I followed this: http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2008-May/007653.html and it worked :) on Ubuntu 8.04... but now on 8.10, there is no hwC0D0 so I can't apply the patch on it :S
[23:51] <sebsebseb> jimminy_cricket: ok you may be able to fix it from a Live CD, but it would be much easier to install it again from a CD
[23:51] <russianzilla> Hey, I was wondering if anyone could help me out with an issue I'm having with my Intrepid upgrade.
[23:51] <Gorthax> Passion, have you toyed around with compiz yet?
[23:51] <jimminy_cricket> i can't reinstall
[23:51] <earthen> csilk, Gorthax Thedjatclubrock  thanks for the info guys
[23:51] <PassionFRUI7E> Speaking of ubuntu, is it easy to install on my ps3?  Racking folding@home points would rock
[23:51] <jimminy_cricket> i would lose a tb of data
[23:51] <tovella> sahak: under .config/ i see lots of directories, but i don't have one for metacity... this although metacity is my default window manager.
[23:51] <PassionFRUI7E> Gorthax:  No.
[23:51] <Gnea> HtheB: this one seems to be a bit more in-depth... http://georgia.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?p=6055988
[23:51] <Thedjatclubrock> Any time.
[23:52] <jimminy_cricket> how would i fix it from a live cd
[23:52] <||Okkoto||> it's pretty easy, 1) you sign up  2) complete an offer (like signing up for Netflix, or trying a trial Amazon thing, etc) and 3) you get 8 to 11 people to do the same.
[23:52] <LF|Irssi> ||Okkoto||: whats that have to do with Ubuntu or even Linux?
[23:52] <bremby> russianzilla: just ask the wuestion
[23:52] <PassionFRUI7E> Been top busy with 8.10.  1 minute left
[23:52] <||Okkoto||> if youw ould like a link PM me
[23:52] <bremby> question*
[23:52] <PassionFRUI7E> Can you add me@aim?  self titled?
[23:52] <sahak> tovella: does you .xsession-errors file also contain a warning?
[23:52] <russianzilla> Well, I tried to do an upgrade to Intrepid from Hardy through the update manager.
[23:52] <epifanio> tring to set the layout for :  macintosh macbook pro ... i receive these error : http://rafb.net/p/kaLsrU61.html   please help :-(
[23:52] <Nikke> Can i go from ubuntu to ubuntu-server without reinstall?
[23:52] <HtheB> Gnea,
[23:52] <Nikke> i used my last cd
[23:52] <russianzilla> The upgrade got stuck on the cleanup stage "looking for obsolete software"
[23:52] <sebsebseb> jimminy_cricket: data yes,  I got in a similar problem when  my update to Intrepid Ibex beta went wrong, because the computer lost power,   so  I  sorted out my partitions and moved my data over to another partiiton and so on
[23:52] <dimedo> PassionFRUI7E, how can i disable the visual effects without using x?
[23:52] <HtheB> he also uses the hda-verb fix
[23:52] <PassionFRUI7E> Files are saved locally.
[23:52] <tesseracter> other problem, 2.6.27 gives me a grub error 18: Selected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by BIOS. do i need to flash bios, or fix HD, or....
[23:52] <drumstyk1> wow, sudo nautilus gives me this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/64884/ does anyone know what that means?
[23:52] <PassionFRUI7E> I did failsafe and it worked.
[23:53] <ldiamond> ActionParsnip: How does that make grub boot isos?
[23:53] <tovella> sahak: not for metacity
[23:53] <PassionFRUI7E> I know you can do it in terminal somehow...
[23:53] <russianzilla> Terminal output said it was "ldconfig deferred processing taking place" or something like that
[23:53] <PassionFRUI7E> Q:  How do I disable eye candy in terminal?
[23:53] <sebsebseb> jimminy_cricket: what you need is a seperate home partition, and then when you re install you won't get in such a mess
[23:53] <russianzilla> I googled the problem and saw that it could usually be fixed by just force-quitting and restarting, which was a bad idea.
[23:53] <noclueguy> jrib have been on the release notes. None of my issues covered. Are you experienced with ubuntu. Because I actually never ever had any trouble installing it.
[23:53] <HtheB> Gnea, he also uses the hda-verb fix, which looks for /dev/snd/hwC0D0
[23:53] <jimminy_cricket> i cant set it up like that
[23:53] <PassionFRUI7E> compiz isn't it?  something like that?
[23:53] <jimminy_cricket> otherwise i would have
[23:53] <||Okkoto||> Here, check this out: http://www.360Elite4free.com/index.php?ref=5491516
[23:53] <csilk> anyone know how to tell GNUPG to never use cached passwords?
[23:53] <Slart> updating is done.. reboot time
[23:54] <Gnea> HtheB: right, but there are some other 'option's there that aren't on the other sides....
[23:54] <russianzilla> Now when I reboot it's still Hardy, it won't use restricted drivers, and it freaks out for about a minute flashing some kind of terminal failsafe screen before starting in safe graphics mode.
[23:54] <tovella> sahak: perpaps you should consider backing and deleting .config/metacity ... i think it may be created when something weird happens to metacity.
[23:54] <jimminy_cricket> all i need to know is how to fix it from a live cd
[23:54] <HtheB> Gnea, ??? huh
[23:54] <HtheB> what do you men? :P
[23:54] <MrWizeGuy1983> what is supposed to happen when you upgrade to ubuntu 8.10?
[23:54] <csilk> anyone know how to tell GNUPG to never use cached passwords?
[23:54] <sahak> tovella: i don't have .config/metacity either
[23:54] <HtheB> Gnea, what do you mean*? :P
[23:54] <Gnea> HtheB: here, show me this:  cat
[23:54] <Gnea> oops
[23:54] <sahak> tovella: so i don't know what's trying to access it
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> MrWizeGuy1983: you get the intrepid kernel and the new applications from the intrepid repos
[23:55] <MrWizeGuy1983> i clicked upgrade from the update manager and it went gray
[23:55] <Gnea> HtheB: cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base | pastebinit
[23:55] <bremby> russianzilla: have you tried booting into recovery mode, trying to reconfigure X server and reconfiguring dpkg? or trying to finish the upgrade?
[23:55] <Gorthax> its working
[23:55] <sahak> tovella: i am going to make a new user, and see if he still gets the same warning
[23:55] <Tetracomm-live> Hello.
[23:55] <russianzilla> Well, for some reason it won't present me with the option to redo the upgrade.
[23:55] <tovella> sahak: i have another idea...
[23:55] <bremby> russianzilla: you can work in the failsafe mode, can't you?
[23:55] <HtheB> Gnea, http://pastebin.com/f28016095
[23:55] <russianzilla> I can't even get into software sources.
[23:55] <MrWizeGuy1983> ActionParsnip, it's an automatic upgrade and full version as of today, but it's acting funny, do you know what i should do?
[23:55] <russianzilla> No, I mean, I'm on my desktop now.
[23:55] <russianzilla> It gets into some kind of terminal when I boot
[23:55] <russianzilla> That flashes a few times
[23:55] <SupaBeast> I get this error trying to install Ubuntu 8.10 "end_request: I/O error, dev sr0" (I think sr0 is the harddrive with Windows Installed) How do i get the installer to use the second harddrive (where i have 8.04 installed atm)?
[23:56] <russianzilla> Then I get into the desktop.
[23:56] <russianzilla> But I can't use restricted drivers on my graphics card and I can't get it to recognize that there's an upgrade available.
[23:56] <b3lorixx> Ubuntu 8.10 Nvidia Issues please help *window borders http://i36.tinypic.com/294gum9.jpg
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> MrWizeGuy1983: i ran it from command line
[23:56] <csilk> anyone know how to tell GNUPG to never use cached passwords?
[23:56] <Tetracomm-live> I am about to install Ubuntu 8.10, I have two FAT32 partitions which I don't want it to touch, when I select: "Guided - Use the largest continuous free space", what will it do? Will it affect my two FAT32 partitions?
[23:56] <MrWizeGuy1983> it acted quite odd, then just now started working
[23:56] <MrWizeGuy1983> i guess the server is busy
[23:56] <sgornick> Looking for Geany ... I know it is in the Add/Remove (gnome-app-install) but how come I cannot see it when I search using Synaptic?
[23:56] <sahak> tovella: what is it?
[23:57] <csilk> Tetracomm-live, I adivse manual
[23:57] <ldiamond> I managed to boot from an extracted image (ubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso) but It boots to initramfs. But how do I launch the live CD from there?
[23:57] <MrWizeGuy1983> it's working, thanks and bye for now
[23:57] <tovella> sahak: go to System > Perferences > Apperance & click on the visual effects tab.  Select normal, then close (button).  Go back and do the same thing, only reselecting None, then close.
[23:57] <bremby> russianzilla: I guess you're still booting in normal mode, or?
[23:57] <russianzilla> Normal mode, yeah.
[23:57] <bremby> russianzilla: then try recovery mode
[23:57] <russianzilla> Would upgrading from the alternate CD as opposed to over the net possibly help?
[23:58] <tovella> sahak: this should reset your metacity stuff, logout & login again to test.
[23:58] <Tetracomm-live> csilk: Why?
[23:58] <bremby> russianzilla: yes, it might, but rebooting is faster than downloading a CD, burning it and etc
[23:58] <csilk> Tetracomm-live, to mitigate the risk of overwriting current partitions
[23:58] <stoned> !install
[23:58] <sahak> tovella: i actually tried that before and it didn't help
[23:58] <HtheB> Gnea,
[23:58] <csilk> Tetracomm-live, also, to make sure you get your partitions just as you want them
[23:58] <Gnea> HtheB: i don't know what else to suggest... http://georgia.ubuntuforums.com/showpost.php?s=50d587f895dba9e65522567122d3d7f3&p=6055692&postcount=9
[23:58] <csilk> anyone know how to tell GNUPG to never use cached passwords?
[23:58] <sysrpn> i can't my native nvidia video drivers installed  from  thegnome ui on ibex
[23:59] <sysrpn> i guess the servers are getting ammered?