[10:38] <andyfied> thom_r: if you're pushed for time a big hammer will work too :D
[10:38] <thom_r> Rory, that will get rid of everything to the point that it can't be recovered no matter how hard you try?
[10:39] <_pacmyc_> llutz: thanx, that worked out!
[10:39] <hitsujiTMO> thom_r: while many people insist that you can recover data from a zero'd drive. there's no actual proof o fit
[10:39] <hitsujiTMO> of it*
[10:39] <Barrytheboy> Hi I am trying to access my additional internal hard drive but I'm getting an error says unable to access"spare" spare is the name I labelled the drive.
[10:39] <andyfied> iiiiin theory you can recover from a 0'd drive, no one will bother spending that much time and money doing it
[10:39] <thom_r> thanks
[10:39] <OltreIrc`10996> Ciao a tutti
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> !it | OltreIrc`10996
[10:40] <andyfied> like in theory you can crack a lot of encryptions but it will take a super computer hundreds of years to do it
[10:40] <Barrytheboy> I also have three hard drives one has windows 8 one has ubuntu and one is for storage.
[10:40] <OltreIrc`10996> !list
[10:41] <Rory> thom_r: It depends how paranoid you are. In principle dedicated data recovery labs might be able to recover data
[10:41] <thom_r> I was just wanting to know in case I ever sell a computer and leave the hard drive in it for the next person. If I just wanted to destroy the drive I think a nice big fire would do the trick.
[10:41] <hitsujiTMO> the !list trigger should be an auto kick at this stage :P
[10:41] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: what format is the drive in?
[10:41] <Rory> thom_r: zeroing the drive will be fine
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> hitsujiTMO: i think you skared him, he thinks youre a warez bot :p
[10:42] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 I'm not sure mate how can I check I am not very technical
[10:42] <SaberX01> Yeah, like Los Alamos size super computer + 100's of CPU yrs to break encryption .. dont have of of those handy to test it out
[10:42] <hitsujiTMO> :)
[10:42] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"
[10:43] <ravionrails> any links from twitter open up linkbucks .com in firefox, any idea how to solve this
[10:43] <Barrytheboy> Ben64 ok two sec
[10:43] <Rory> ravionrails: Check your Firefox extensions list
[10:44] <andyfied> thom_r: zero the drive since it will cost $1000s to get anything off it, if in doubt open the cover and scratch the platters up
[10:44] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 http://pastebin.com/SLMxwXsv
[10:45] <ravionrails> nothing suspicious there Rory
[10:45] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: well what happens if you say yes?
[10:45] <SaberX01> thom_r, somebody mentioned a hammer, that definitely works :-)
[10:45] <thom_r> SaberX01, I mentioned fire
[10:45] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 I've not try shall I type yes and continue
[10:46] <Rory> ravionrails: Does it only occur in Firefox?
[10:46] <andyfied> SaberX01: yes, thump it while it's spinning with a big hammer. we frequently get drives dropped from 6' while spinning. they are always dead
[10:47] <ravionrails> Rory, on both, chrome and firefox
[10:48] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 http://pastebin.com/HBhuAjJP
[10:48] <SaberX01> andyfied, OT but, I put a plexiglass cover and blue LED's on a drive once, looped a chkdsk and watched the thing run, was pretty cool
[10:48] <Rory> ravionrails: Does it occur on other machines connected to the same router
[10:49] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: ok, and which partition are you having problems mounting? is it on the 1000GB drive or the 250GB drive or the 3rd one?
[10:49] <Barrytheboy> 250GB @ben64
[10:50] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: and which version of ubuntu?
[10:50] <thom_r> ravionrails, http://www.securitystronghold.com/gates/remove-linkbucks-com.html
[10:50] <Barrytheboy> 13.10 @ben64
[10:50] <ravionrails> Rory, on other machines too
[10:50] <Rory> ravionrails: OK, your router is compromised
[10:51] <Rory> ravionrails: It's not an issue with Ubuntu, but reset your router to factory settings, and then change the password on it to something more secure
[10:51] <thom_r> I have to agree with Rory, your router is the culprit
[10:51] <ravionrails> ok thanks Rory thom_r
[10:51] <bekks> ravionrails: I dont second that.
[10:52] <ravionrails> i will do it, is any other thing to worry
[10:52] <bekks> From the linkgiven, it is pretty clear that is a browser infection, not a router issue.
[10:52] <thom_r> it's on all computers though
[10:52] <bekks> ravionrails: Please read the link carefully, step through the manual cleanup methods on ALL affected computers and see if it is solved after.
[10:52] <ravionrails> bekks, but it happens on all computers
[10:53] <bekks> ravionrails: I bet the problem will persist after resetting your router. Just for the logs.
[10:53] <ravionrails> i think i should first reset my router
[10:53] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: try this... "sudo mkdir /dev/shm/test; sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc2 /dev/shm/test;sleep 5; nautilus /dev/shm/test" and see if that works, if not, pastebin the errors
[10:53] <SaberX01> What is the OS on all the computers having the issue?
[10:53] <ravionrails> windows / ubuntu
[10:54] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 shall I copy and paste full text
[10:54] <Ben64> ravionrails: yeah sounds less like an ubuntu problem and more of a security issue with your network or router or something
[10:54] <SaberX01> it's pretty tough to infect a *Nix box from or with a Win virus.
[10:54] <bekks> SaberX01: Its a browser infection as the link states.
[10:54] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: all the stuff in the quotes i posted above, but don't type the quotes themselves
[10:55] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 ok thank trying it now
[10:55] <ravionrails> SaberX01, imo you are right i have never face a problem since last 5 years, it's my first time
[10:55] <SaberX01> But still, how does it jump fences from Win to *Nix
[10:55] <Ben64> dns, mitm, etc
[10:56] <bekks> SaberX01: It is a browser infection... Firefox e.g. works the same across OS.
[10:56] <ravionrails> bekks, it's on chrome also
[10:56] <SaberX01> So they all went to the same site or place and got this bug ?
[10:56] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 will I need to wait awhile icon flashing after >
[10:56] <llutz> if a "virus" needs binary code to run, it won't cross the fence
[10:56] <bekks> ravionrails: And Chrome works the same across OS, too.
[10:56] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: possibly
[10:57] <bekks> SaberX01: Correct.
[10:58] <SaberX01> I guess we'd need to see the bug listed on the bug hunter sites ans see how it exploits the browser.
[11:00] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 tab still flashing? shall I go away and come back later
[11:00] <bekks> SaberX01: If you want to see it there, look for it there ;) Or read the manual removal instructions here: http://www.securitystronghold.com/gates/remove-linkbucks-com.html
[11:01] <steve_fi> is there any way from the bootusb to edit grub for my other "partition", the one I installed Ubuntu to? I hit shift to enter grub at startup, but it boots regardless (need to put nomodeset parmanently on)
[11:01] <SaberX01> bekks, Says affected OS is all Windows.
[11:02] <bekks> SaberX01: And the removal instruction include browser instructions only.
[11:02] <bekks> SaberX01: So its a browser issue.
[11:02] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: should take maybe 30 seconds, maybe you typed it incorrectly?
[11:03] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 I will try again
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | steve_fi
[11:04] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 I start on Sudo end on errors
[11:07] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: huh?
[11:07] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 I sent screen shot of what I typed
[11:08] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 I started copied what you sent from the word sudo to the word errors
[11:08] <Ben64> sudo mkdir /dev/shm/test; sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdc2 /dev/shm/test;sleep 5; nautilus /dev/shm/test
[11:08] <Ben64> exactly that is what you should have typed ^
[11:09] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 shall I pastebin what it said
[11:09] <Wiz_KeeD> SaberX01, now after another reboot it connected to wireless in Windows :\
[11:09] <SaberX01> bekks, seeign tlak of this being both a router and / or browser exploit.
[11:10] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: sure
[11:10] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 http://pastebin.com/hLauX04J
[11:10] <SaberX01> Wiz_KeeD, try UB again, see if it stays up and runnning.
[11:11] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: ok you need to check the partition in windows a couple times, and do not use hibernation at all. windows 8 has it enabled by default, they call it "fast startup"
[11:12] <Barrytheboy> @ben64 how do I do that?
[11:12] <maxxsire_> What's one of the highest end windows 7 tablets that you can put ubuntu desktop on? Or where is a list of the highest end hardware you can put in a windows 7 covertable laptop so it will have both tablet and desktop fuctions?
[11:13] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: http://www.typicaltips.com/2013/02/disable-fast-startup-in-windows-8.html
[11:13] <Ben64> Barrytheboy: for more information on windows stuff, you can ask in ##windows
[11:13] <Barrytheboy> ok cool thanks ben
[11:14] <Wiz_KeeD> SaberX01, now it worked...it took a while longer to connect but it did
[11:14] <Wiz_KeeD> SaberX01, how am I going to explain this to the warranty guys?
[11:14] <Wiz_KeeD> Now it workes...but it didn't before a lot of times
[11:14] <SaberX01> Wiz_KeeD, And you've changed noting in UE / BIOS or settings?
[11:14] <Wiz_KeeD> SaberX01, nothing, just rebooted
[11:14] <Wiz_KeeD> and left it running a bit more while I was using my other notebook
[11:15] <Wiz_KeeD> and now it disconnected from the network...wtf
[11:15] <CTCP2> hi. i have DFI LANParty DK 790FX-M2RS motherboard and i can't boot ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso from USB stick (i've created bootable USB stick with instructions from http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows ). when whole BIOS past, everything just stop and freeze. this is photo of bios when booting should start: http://s30.postimg.org/tzmmsgldt/dfi_1.gif & http://s12.postimg.org/vn43tggml/dfi_2.gif
[11:16] <Rory> CTCP2: Does your BIOS support booting from USB?
[11:16] <SaberX01> Wiz_KeeD, Well I'd test that for a while, in both Win and UB if it goes South again, write up all that you done in the interim and call them.
[11:17] <SaberX01> Wiz_KeeD, Careful though talking about Dual boot and Ubuntu of it did not come with it originally, they may give you a hard time about it.
[11:17] <CTCP2> Rory : ive created BOOTABLE USB for flashing bios update from here http://www.dfi.com.tw/DFI-Lanparty/support/forum/faq_en.html and it worked
[11:17] <SaberX01> *if it did not.... .. .. .
[11:17] <Wiz_KeeD> SaberX01, I was just thinking of that, the will most likely give me crap about it :((
[11:17] <SaberX01> Wiz_KeeD, just tell them the issues as you see them in Windows.
[11:18] <CTCP2> and in BIOS there are options to "boot from removable drive (USB)" and it is selected
[11:18] <CTCP2> (boot sequence order)
[11:18] <Wiz_KeeD> SaberX01, it seems to be working fine in windows...
[11:18] <SaberX01> For now, but it wasn't a short time ago.
[11:20] <Wiz_KeeD> I'll keep using it under windows for like 2 hours then go back to ubuntu
[11:23] <SaberX01> Wiz_KeeD, if you can try to keep tabs on how long it takes to fail, startup to fail  and the frequency.,
[11:24] <Wiz_KeeD> Yeah at least that will provide some statistic...
[11:24] <SaberX01> Wiz_KeeD, like in 24hrs, failed X times = MTBF
[11:24] <azhar> Hi, can someone tell me why  cpuinfo shows all my processor cores to be running at 800MHz  when they should be at 2100 ?
[11:24] <SaberX01> laptop of desktop
[11:25] <StephenS> Im oracle fan
[11:25] <Wiz_KeeD> mtbf?
[11:25] <SaberX01> Mean Time Between Failure
[11:25] <Wiz_KeeD> interessting
[11:25] <SaberX01> azhar, is it a laptop or desktop ?
[11:26] <llutz> azhar: powerstepping, cpu only uses full speed if needed. energysaving
[11:26] <azhar> it's a laptop
[11:27] <azhar> it's always at 800 MHz , till it overheats and shuts.
[11:29] <SaberX01> azhar, the default gonernor is generally set to on-demand, so if your not using any CPU cycles, it can get throttled back. Are you also having Heat faliures?
[11:30] <mautog1> hello
[11:32] <azhar> SaberX01: Even when a lot of applications are running in the background it stays at 800 MHz , Heat failures are not that often usually occur with wine or multiple flash using websites are open.
[11:32] <SaberX01> azhar, for example, my laptop is a dual-core 2.0Ghz box, and if I do:  grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo  .. Im getting 1000 or 1Ghz .. but when I load the laptop, it will throttle up to 2.0.
[11:33] <SaberX01> azhar, when all those background apps are running, have you checked your speed then?
[11:34] <SaberX01> azhar, You can try to adjust with apps like: indicator-cpufreq  where you can set the performance levels wich in turn adjusts clock speed.
[11:34] <azhar> SaberX01: Yeah it's constant at 800MHz . I had the same problem with 13.04 but i installed jupiter and kept it at max performance all the time , now i kinda want to know what's going in the background.
[11:34] <cristian_c> Another question
[11:35] <cristian_c> I've placed a script in /etc/pm/sleep.d/
[11:35] <cristian_c> This script runs another script, an .sh script
[11:35] <cristian_c> but when I suspend the system, I get errors in pm-suspend.log
[11:36] <cristian_c> in the .sh script there is a synclient command
[11:36] <DwarfDefender> sudo sysctl -p /etc/sysctl.conf
[11:36] <DwarfDefender> sysctl: /etc/sysctl.conf(61): invalid syntax, continuing...
[11:36] <DwarfDefender> sysctl: /etc/sysctl.conf(62): invalid syntax, continuing...
[11:36] <DwarfDefender> 2 last lines of sysctl
[11:36] <DwarfDefender> * soft nofile 409600
[11:36] <DwarfDefender> * hard nofile 1024000
[11:36] <FloodBot1> DwarfDefender: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:36] <DwarfDefender> how do i properly solve
[11:36] <miguelaraujo> Hi! I upgraded to 13.10 and now I don't have the global menu on chrome. Why is this happening? is it a bug?
[11:36] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: did you supply the full path of any scripts binaries called in your scripts?
[11:37] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, yes
[11:37] <hitsujiTMO> miguelaraujo: there is no global menu in chrome
[11:37] <miguelaraujo> hitsujiTMO: but I had it on 13.04
[11:37] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, su - $USER -c "sh /usr/local/sbin/setupTouchpad.sh"
[11:38] <hitsujiTMO> miguelaraujo: chrome has its own menu. no matter what DE you use in 13.10 there is no menu. So i'd assume that google have removed it if they detect 13.10
[11:38] <DwarfDefender> http://pastebin.com/TEEPQ1aX
[11:38] <miguelaraujo> hitsujiTMO: understood, thx
[11:39] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: su - $USER -c "/bin/sh /usr/local/sbin/setupTouchpad.sh"
[11:39] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: /bin/su - $USER -c "/bin/sh /usr/local/sbin/setupTouchpad.sh"
[11:39] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok, but the .sh script is executed
[11:39] <slind14> hey
[11:39] <slind14> does someone use rsnapshot ?
[11:39] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, the problem is with synclient
[11:40] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: whats in setupTouchpad.sh then?
[11:40] <cristian_c> I don't get sh errors
[11:41] <maxxsire_> What's one of the highest end windows 7 tablets that you can put ubuntu desktop on? Or where is a list of the highest end hardware you can put in a windows 7 covertable laptop so it will have both tablet and desktop fuctions?
[11:41] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, synclient HorizTwoFingerScroll=1
[11:41] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: whats the error that you get?
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> maxxsire_  better aks in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:41] <slind14> is it possible to run rsnapshot like "backup /home/   user@remoteserver.com:/" ?
[11:41] <cristian_c> stdin: is not a tty
[11:41] <cristian_c> No protocol specified
[11:41] <cristian_c> Failed to connect to X Server.
[11:42] <maxxsire_> Whats this channel for?
[11:42] <cristian_c> /etc/pm/sleep.d/00my-sleep-resume resume suspend: Returned exit code 1.
[11:42] <SaberX01> slind14, I don't have the syntax off top of my head, but that's that its designed for, local and remote BU.
[11:43] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: then it seems that it requires an xserver running and its being called when its not. what is it exactly that you are trying to do?
[11:43] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I must enable that touchpad option after resume
[11:44] <cristian_c> Looking for in the web with google, I've found a page. In this page is written: 'Applying those two solutions together yielded a working result: 1. sleeping for two seconds (the script is already processed in the background, so the resume won't take longer!) 2. running sh -c 'export -p' > env on a normal terminal and sourcing that env file before the call to synclient'
[11:45] <cristian_c> How can I apply these methods? What changes have I to do exactly?
[11:45] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[11:45] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: first. change the name of the script from starting with 00 to starting with 99
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> maxxsire_: ubuntu support questions
[11:46] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok, but I hacve read the pm-suspend documentation
[11:46] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: if you're adding a sleep to it then you want it to be the last thing to be called
[11:46] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, numbers have got a particular meaning, 00 means that the sleep.d script is executed last
[11:46] <cristian_c> :)
[11:47] <cristian_c> in the resume phase
[11:47] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, exaclty
[11:47] <cristian_c> *exactly
[11:47] <hitsujiTMO> ahh ok. wasn't aware of that peculiarity.
[11:47] <cristian_c> in suspend phase: 00, 10, .... 99
[11:48] <cristian_c> in resume phase : 99, 80, ... 10, 00
[11:48] <Guest78629> Other question: what could be the problem if the mouse arrow disappears sometimes so that the mouse itself works but you dont see the symbol of the mouse?
[11:48] <hyture> Hi
[11:48] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, backwards
[11:48] <Guest78629> hi
[11:49] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I've understood this reading the doc
[11:49] <cristian_c> :)
[11:49] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:49] <SaberX01> Hello
[11:49] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: ok then in your resume/thaw method. set the first line to be "sleep 2"           this will give you your 2 seconds delay to wait for the xserver to become active
[11:49] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok
[11:49] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I can paste my actual script
[11:49] <cristian_c> in pastebin
[11:50] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: please do
[11:51] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/evPMf9Gj
[11:51] <hyture> where should I ask for problems with a wireless card in a Ubuntu virtualbox?
[11:51] <hyture> Ubuntu as a guest system
[11:51] <ikonia> hyture: if it's the guest - then it's not a wireless card
[11:51] <ikonia> hyture: that would be the host
[11:51] <hitsujiTMO> hyture: whats the exact problem. vbox should expose it as eth not wireless
[11:51] <ezra-s> hyture, ubuntu will see a wired network card inside a virtualbox
[11:52] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, how can I add the sleep command to the script, exactly? :)
[11:52] <hyture> thats the problem. lsUsb sees the ralink usb adapter but ifconfig not
[11:53] <hyture> so NetworkManager is unable to show wifi networks
[11:53] <bekks>  hyture so you passed through the usb device to your vm?
[11:53] <hyture> yes
[11:54] <bekks> hyture: you still have to install all necessary drivers in your guest.
[11:54] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: try http://paste.ubuntu.com/6662264/
[11:54] <bekks> And honestly, ralibk chipsets are the worst choice for wifi.
[11:55] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok
[11:55] <n008> how do I play pair my ubuntu laptop to an external speaker using bluetooth
[11:57] <yuyu> 0w0
[11:57] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, have I to execute also the second point?
[11:57] <cristian_c> '2. running sh -c 'export -p' > env on a normal terminal and sourcing that env file before the call to synclient'
[11:57] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: one issue at a time.
[11:57] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, ok
[11:58] <cristian_c> I try the first method
[11:58] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, thanks
[11:58] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: reboot. and check the error log
[11:58] <cristian_c> ok
[11:59] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, I've to quit but this will be the first thing I'll do
[11:59] <cristian_c> :)
[11:59] <cristian_c> hitsujiTMO, thanks again
[11:59] <cristian_c> :)
[11:59] <hitsujiTMO> np
[12:04] <quink_> I have to rm .adobe directory each time, or running acroread from cmdline will show nothing, what's the problem?
[12:07] <hyture> hi
[12:07] <hyture> i lost the connection
[12:07] <n008> easier than I thought
[12:08] <hyture> ifconfig wlan0 managed Ethernet
[12:08] <hyture> ¿?
[12:11] <hyture> Link Encap: Ethernet
[12:12] <hitsujiTMO> hyture: can i ask why you choose to passthru your wifi device rather than configure it in the host os?
[12:12] <bekks> hyture: Wifi uses Ethernet, too.
[12:13] <hyture> hitsujiTMO: Because it is unusable
[12:13] <hyture> hitsujiTMO: Touchpad doesn't work
[12:13] <NerdScatore> ciao
[12:13] <hyture> and i have no more usb ports
[12:13] <NerdScatore> !list
[12:14] <hyture> hitsujiTMO: Touchpad fails on all distros
[12:14] <bekks> hyture: The touchpad has nothing to do with wifi.
[12:14] <NerdScatore> !list
[12:14] <hyture> Fedora, Slax, Debian, Megia, Fedora
[12:14] <bekks> hyture: And in every OS, you have to install/configure the driver for your wifi device.
[12:14] <airtonix> bekks: really?
[12:14] <bekks> airtonix: Really :)
[12:14] <airtonix> bekks: last time i did that in ubuntu was about five years ago
[12:15] <hyture> bekks: yes but that was the main reason i am using a VB machine
[12:15] <bekks> hyture: Whats a "VB machine"?
[12:15] <NerdScatore> !list
[12:15] <bekks> NerdScatore: Stop it, finally. Try reading what ubottu tells you.
[12:16] <hyture> bekks: VirtualBox. On Mint, the adapter works without any extra configuration "just plug¬play"
[12:16] <hitsujiTMO> hyture: so your deivces wont work in ubuntu in as your host os, so you're using ubuntu as a guest and passing thru the devices to ubuntu ... where they will again not work??? that seems to be what i'm getting from what you've said.
[12:16] <bekks> hyture: And on other OS, it doesnt. So you have to configure it.
[12:16]  * airtonix chuckles
[12:16] <mautog1> hello ubuntu guys
[12:17] <hyture> No. xd
[12:17] <hitsujiTMO> hyture: what os is your host os?
[12:17] <BluesKaj> !it | NerdScatore
[12:17] <NerdScatore> !list
[12:17] <bekks> NerdScatore: Stop it.
[12:17] <BluesKaj> bekks, don't think he understands English
[12:18] <airtonix> it
[12:18] <hyture> Okay. Ralink USB adapter works fine with Linux as Host OS
[12:18] <bekks> BluesKaj: Obviously he doesnt understand italian either.
[12:18] <bekks> hyture: Then use it on your host OS.
[12:18] <hyture> bekks: I can't.
[12:18] <mautog1> theres a Fillippinino here
[12:18] <bajrang> hi , I am getting error while turning on an application. it says "Global hotkey binding problem detected" ..And then I when I press OK is closes down. pls help ..
[12:18] <bekks> hyture: Why not?
[12:18] <hitsujiTMO> hyture: why cant you ... if it works?
[12:19] <amrutansu> hi
[12:19] <hyture> bekks: Because Touchpad doesn't work, Touchscreen acts like a mouse, it hibernates when a 2nd batteri is about 3%
[12:20] <hitsujiTMO> hyture: again.. what does the touchpad have to do with thewifi?
[12:21] <hyture> hitsujiTMO: Because that is the reason why I don't use the USB Wifi with Linux as OS system where it works fine
[12:22] <amrutansu> how do i reduce brightness in ubuntu 12.04 ? I got an option in search panel and brought the adjust bar to zero but nothing happens
[12:22] <bekks> hyture: the touchpad is totally unrelated to your wifi. Why cant you use the _wifi_ on your host OS?
[12:22] <hyture> ..
[12:22] <bajrang> Anybody having problem in installing Zealdoc on Ubuntu 13.04 ??
[12:22] <airtonix> hyture: not sure if it's obvious, but you're not making sense.
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> !find zealdoc
[12:23] <hitsujiTMO> hyture: /facepalm. hyture configure the wifi on the host OS. this will be then exposed as a wired connection in the guest OS. Then you will not have issues
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> bajrang  what's zealdoc?
[12:24] <SaberX01> Offline document reader, pretty nifty actually.
[12:24] <bajrang> MonkeyDust : http://zealdocs.org/
[12:24] <StephenS> djangooooo
[12:24] <abhinav> bor.up.nic.in hindi font problem
[12:24] <StephenS> djangooo
[12:24] <hitsujiTMO> hmm.. thats what appcache is for :P
[12:25] <Guest56817> hello everyone, can anyone please help me here? I had ubuntu 12.04 installed on my laptop. I install compiz and then decided to kill it as it was access too much of resources. Now when I restarted my laptop, I  don't get login screen. It just freezes there with blank screen. I tried to reinstall 12.04 on top of my current install w/o formatting the root drive, but now in this new install I don't have any drivers (no wi/fi, bluetooth
[12:25] <Guest56817> , etc).
[12:25] <hyture> Now, I have W8 as Host OS where the adapter is working. I added it to "Filter devices". Guest OS (Ubuntu) display it on lsusb as a Ralink Wifi adapter but Networkmanager is unable to scan wireless networks.
[12:25] <bekks> hyture: Use the adapter on the host OS.
[12:25] <Guest56817> Can anyone please assist me?
[12:26] <abhinav> hindi font how to use on bor.up.nic.in
[12:26] <hyture> bekks: I want to use it on the virtual machine
[12:26] <hitsujiTMO> !in | abhinav
[12:26] <bajrang> SaberX01 : Do you use it ? on ubuntu 13.04 ?
[12:26] <hyture> On the Host OS i already have Internet
[12:26] <SaberX01> bajrang, no .. but have used it before.
[12:26] <bekks> hyture: Then configure a network adapter for your vm and dont pass through the USB.
[12:27] <hitsujiTMO> hyture: then use that internet in the guest OS!
[12:27] <Guest56817> Anyone? Please?
[12:27] <bajrang> SaberX01 :  on ubuntu 13.04 ?
[12:27] <thom_r> Guest56817, just wipe the hard drive and do a clean install
[12:27] <hyture> hitsujiTMO: Thats not the problem
[12:27] <SaberX01> bajrang, no .. on a different distro all together.
[12:27] <abhinav> ya but the problem is up.bor.nic.in and go to satyapan then not show in hindi
[12:28] <gordonjcp> !anyone | Guest56817
[12:28] <thom_r> Guest56817, can you boot from a usb?
[12:28] <bajrang> SaberX01 :  ok.. But this not working on ubuntu 13.04.
[12:28] <yuyu> mositesu
[12:28] <hitsujiTMO> Guest56817: what desktop environment were you using ?
[12:28] <thom_r> 12.04
[12:28] <SaberX01> bajrang, I used it for generating Docsets .. nothing even closely related to your question / issue.
[12:28] <Guest56817> thom_r, I've a lot of valuable data, can't take backup as It doesnt allow me to mount pendrive. Also have windows installed, cant format all.
[12:28] <bekks> hyture: Then why do you create problems where there are no problems? What is the reason you want to use the USB wifi dongle in your guest OS, instead just using your working internet connection?
[12:29] <abhinav> using 13.10
[12:29] <bajrang> SaberX01 :  ok
[12:29] <thom_r> Guest, backup your data, boot into Windows, format the Ubuntu partition, and do a clean install
[12:29] <BluesKaj> Guest56817, you have to format the / drive and reinstall the OS to it , as long as you still have a /home partition for your data
[12:30] <Guest56817> thom_r, yes I'm currently using live usb.
[12:30] <abhinav> any body know hindi
[12:30] <hitsujiTMO> !in | abhinav
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> abhinav  try the indian channel, or is it pakistan
[12:30] <Guest56817> hitsujiTMO, ubuntu 12.04 if that is what you are asking.
[12:31] <SaberX01> thom_r, he can do that from the installer by simply selecting manual partitioning, not need for Windows intervention.
[12:31] <Guest56817> Can I access my files in install ubuntu, from this live usb?
[12:32] <Guest56817> *installed
[12:32] <trijntje> Hi all, how can I get my Broadcom BCM43235 wireless usb-dongle to work with ubuntu?
[12:32] <hyture> bekks: because securiting script and tools need it
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> !bcm | trijntje start here
[12:32] <SaberX01> thom_r, unless he needs / wants a BU first.
[12:32] <thom_r> what is a BU
[12:32] <bekks> hyture: So your touchpad is totally unrelated to what you are trying to achieve. You could have said that from the beginning.
[12:32] <SaberX01> backup
[12:32] <thom_r> ah, understood
[12:33] <bekks> hyture: Then pass through your wifi, and configure it in your vm.
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> Guest56817  importaznt data should always be backed up (backupped?)
[12:33] <bekks> hyture: As you have been told earlier, multiple times.
[12:33] <bekks> MonkeyDust: "Important data" implies that there is a backup already. :)
[12:34] <SaberX01> WIFI doesn't work in VM's, it's ethx either passthru or bridged.
[12:34] <bekks> SaberX01: That not true. Passed through USB devicesd do work in VMs.
[12:34] <SaberX01> Bridged beign the easiest setup most of the time.
[12:34] <SaberX01> Ok.
[12:35] <SaberX01> I dont think that's the case, USB devices, yes, wifi, I dont think so, but could be wrong.
[12:35] <Guest56817> Now as I'm logged in using live USB, how can I back up my data from installed Ubuntu, either to windows or to a usb?
[12:36] <Guest56817> "sudo fdisk -l" doesn't show me windows partitions
[12:36] <thom_r> Guest56817, plug in another usb and save the files to it
[12:36] <bekks> SaberX01: You are wrong. USB device - whichever - do work.
[12:36] <Guest56817> thom_r, ok let me try
[12:36] <trijntje> MonkeyDust: that page takes me to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/brcm80211, but I'm not sure what to do with the info on that page
[12:36] <James0r> there an apt-get command to reinstall all files that are marked as 'no longer required'?
[12:36] <thom_r> should work, just blindly stabbing in the dark as I have never had that problem before.
[12:37] <James0r> i installed a .deb file and unknowingly removed a bunch of important packages.
[12:37] <hyture> bekks: okay, it strange because I hoped that it was plug&play like having it as host SO
[12:37] <ozberk> hi guys I need to ubuntu touch channels name
[12:37] <SaberX01> bekks, please show us a links to setting up a USB WIFI passt-hrough, that would be a good factoid.
[12:37] <bekks> hyture: We told you multiple times that if it doesnt work out of the box, you have to configure it.
[12:37] <hitsujiTMO> hyture: whats the exact device id?
[12:37] <ogra_> ozberk, unsurprisingly it is #ubuntu-touch (but it is very quiet there over the holidays)
[12:37] <bekks> SaberX01: www.virtualbox.org -> Documentation.
[12:38] <SaberX01> Noted
[12:38] <bekks> SaberX01: I dont think that "go reading the vbox docs" is a good factoid ;)
[12:39] <SaberX01> bekks, Did I say it was, no.
[12:39] <hyture> bekks: Sorry , Too much time using VmWare workstation for WiMax troubleshooting
[12:39] <bekks> SaberX01: I didnt say that you said it.
[12:39] <bekks> hyture: VMware is unrelated to Virtualbox.
[12:43] <BazGee> http://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/1tzd55/for_everyone_impatiently_waiting_for_mobile/ - everyone click on the up arrow on this post so it goes higher so everyone sees this as I think it helps people to stop being impatient! :)
[12:43] <hyture> BazGee: wrong channel
[12:43] <Meerkat> that's against the reddiquette
[12:44] <thom_r> Guest56817, how's it going?
[12:44] <hitsujiTMO> down vote time :P
[12:44] <ObrienDave> for sure
[12:44] <hyture> Down voted
[12:45] <morpheus7> hello - i'm looking to use glances on 12.04 running on ESXi. does anyone know if it accurately reports the CPU usage?
[12:45] <bekks> morpheus7: Depends on your settings.
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> morpheus7  install it, then decide if it suits your needs
[12:46] <morpheus7> bekks: MonkeyDust: is the glances application itself a CPU hog?
[12:46] <hyture> VB doc is not very helpful. ;/
[12:46] <bekks> morpheus7: Of course it is - do you think realtime stats grabbing happens with 0% CPU time?
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> morpheus7  best way to find out, would be by trying, i guess
[12:47] <bekks> hyture: Virtualbox is out of question. It is entirely an issue of configuring your host OS.
[12:47] <bekks> hyture: Vbox has nothing to do with what you are doing inside your guest.
[12:48] <morpheus7> bekks: yeah, but i assumed it would be low usage. i'll install it and see for myself :)
[12:48] <bekks> morpheus7: thats the best way to go, yes.
[12:48] <ObrienDave> down voted ;P
[12:50] <airtonix> anchors away!
[12:51] <hyture> Okay
[12:51] <hyture> Another question
[12:52] <hyture> Where i should report bugs related to "evdev"? Launchpado or bugzilla.kernel.org?
[12:52] <ikonia> hyture: depends on the bug
[12:53] <hyture> New touchpad hardware
[12:54] <ikonia> hyture: that's not a bug - that's just a senctence
[12:55] <falematte> Hi all, I have a crash after launching google-earth on a Ubuntu 12.04 64Bit machine. Here is the error log http://pastebin.com/2ywzRM47
[12:57] <falematte> Hi all, I have a crash after launching google-earth on a Ubuntu 12.04 64Bit machine. Here is the error log http://pastebin.com/2ywzRM47 . Anyone may help?
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> falematte  it didn't say "Google-earth invalid http request"?
[12:57] <ObrienDave> !patience | falematte
[12:58] <falematte> MonkeyDust, mmm don't think so...
[12:59] <SaberX01> Funny enough, having not read the "Documentation" for Vbox in a few weeks, chp6 mentions noting about WIFI in the Guest other than being bridged from the host.
[12:59] <lug> Hi all, I have a problem with Google-earth.I don't see terrain, while I can see borders, streetview, panoramio, etc. Tried a lot of different solutions to no avail
[12:59] <thom_r> lug, what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[13:00] <hyture> ikonia: What did you mean?
[13:00] <lug> This is my first week with Linux
[13:00] <thom_r> lug, what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[13:01] <bekks> hyture: Whats the actual bug with evdev you are experiencing?
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> lug  what's the outcome of    cat /etc/issue
[13:01] <lug> Verion 12.04 LTS
[13:02] <hyture> bekks: It seems that it is detected but a "touchpad switcher" is off
[13:02] <hyture> there isn't any switcher or FN keys combination
[13:02] <bekks> hyture: That what is detected? Please for a full sentence which describes the "bug".
[13:02] <bekks> *form
[13:03] <lug> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[13:04] <hyture> bekks: It is detected by xiput as Synaptics 103S, on Xorg.0.log there is no (EE) or (II) errors.
[13:05] <hyture> Powertop says using 0.25% of battery.
[13:06] <hyture> it is enabled on GPointingDeviceSettings
[13:08] <TJ-> hyture: Is this any help to you? http://darkjoker.github.io/2013/10/20/Touchpad-switcher.html
[13:10] <hyture> I revised values on gconf-editor
[13:10] <patrickgamer> my LG has been wrongly detected and I can't get the right resolution options. How can I force Ubuntu to "try again" in detecting my monitor type? It's an ultra-wide (2560 x 1080) and the distortion is pretty bad
[13:12] <hyture> I don't know what i shoud try
[13:12] <hitsujiTMO> patrickgamer: whats it detecting as can can you pastebin the contents as /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:12] <hyture> *should
[13:12] <hyture> I get no answer on #xorg
[13:13] <hitsujiTMO> s/can can/and can
[13:14] <patrickgamer> hitsujiTMO:  k sec.
[13:16] <hillary_l> which command for clearing temporary folders in ubuntu 12.04
[13:16] <patrickgamer> hitsujiTMO: http://dpaste.com/1529662/
[13:16] <hitsujiTMO> patrickgamer: full Xorg.0.log please
[13:18] <hyture> bekks: should i report it as a "bug"
[13:18] <patrickgamer> hitsujiTMO: kk - it's big. I need to install xsel. one moment
[13:18] <hitsujiTMO> patrickgamer: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:18] <bekks> hyture: I havent followed your random statements.
[13:20] <patrickgamer> hitsujiTMO: heh nice. thanks. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6662610/
[13:20] <hitsujiTMO> patrickgamer: it certainly seems to be detecting the correct res Modeline "2560x1080"x0.0
[13:21] <patrickgamer> hitsujiTMO: but it shows as "goldstar company" in the Screen Display GUI and only offers 1080p res option
[13:21] <dfgf> sooory i lost connection again
[13:22] <dfgf> Should i report it as a "bug" on evdev?
[13:22] <hitsujiTMO> patrickgamer: can you run: xrandr | pastebinit
[13:23] <dfgf> Touchpad doesn't work on any distro
[13:23] <dfgf> I also tried adding some Grub enrties
[13:24] <patrickgamer> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6662629/
[13:24] <TJ-> dfgf: What is the exact make/model of the PC?
[13:24] <dfgf> HP Split x2
[13:24] <hitsujiTMO> patrickgamer: HDMI-1 i presume?
[13:26] <dfgf> TJ-:HP Split x2
[13:26] <TJ-> dfgf: And it comes with Ubuntu pre-installed by HP?
[13:27] <patrickgamer> hitsujiTMO:  yes that's correct
[13:27] <patrickgamer> i've got two monitors connected to my laptop
[13:27] <patrickgamer> the laptop screen is disabled (for now)
[13:27] <dfgf> No.
[13:27] <patrickgamer> hitsujiTMO: the acer screen is fine
[13:28] <BluesKaj> patrickgamer, have you tried to install nvidia additional drivers , since nouveau default driver is loaded , it may not be able to handle the monitor's native resolution
[13:29] <TJ-> dfgf: See this "...One thing I did that solved the touchpad problem was to disable in the power options the ability to stop the usb/pci-express devices to save energy..." at  http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Lockups-Freezes-Hangs/HP-Split-13-X2-Mouse-Touchpad-FREEZES/td-p/3201863
[13:30] <TJ-> dfgf: Further in that forum post another user says "Return while you can .. because the problem is the conector between the screen and the keyboard, if you try to move the screen everything will start to malfunction .. like usb will get disconnected, the headset will fail, the touchpad will freeze, the sdcard will eject, and so one ..."
[13:30] <dfgf> TJ- Thats on Windows
[13:31] <dfgf> On Linux HDD, keyboard, and USB works so no problems...
[13:31] <TJ-> dfgf: You obviously haven't read the posts. It's a hardware issue those posts are talking about
[13:31] <patrickgamer> BluesKaj: no, i hadn't considered that
[13:31] <TJ-> dfgf: If that isn't your issue then I suggest you contact HP support
[13:32] <dfgf> TJ-: Disable powervoptions is on Windows Device Manager, a config tab
[13:32] <BluesKaj> patrickgamer, is your laptop using the "optimus system" , 2 gpus ?
[13:33] <dfgf> Yep, In ordet to obtain "We don't support Ubuntu on your computer. Thanks anyway"
[13:33] <patrickgamer> BluesKaj: it's a ROG G74S. Vid is a 560M 3GB card
[13:33] <patrickgamer> discrete
[13:33] <TJ-> dfgf: The same thing can be done on Linux using the power control interfaces in the sysfs  under "/sys"
[13:35] <patrickgamer> i'm going to try installing the nvidia driver after a conference call
[13:35] <TJ-> dfgf: According to the HP service manual Ubuntu can come pre-installed: See page 3 of http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c03958968.pdf
[13:36] <hitsujiTMO> patrickgamer: since your connection via hdmi that could also be the limiting factor. HDMI 1.0 spec has a maximum resolution of 1920 x 1200. for your monitor you need to ensure the laptop is capable of hdmi 1.3
[13:37] <BluesKaj> patrickgamer, just to be sure , run sudo lshw -C video , in the terminal and paste line "configuration"
[13:37] <dfgf> Yes but HP doesn't have a Synaptics touchpad 103S troubleshooting section
[13:38] <patrickgamer> BluesKaj: yeah it does b/c I'm fine when I boot into windows
[13:38] <dfgf> bekks: I have reconfigured VirtualBox. Now it is unable to scan anything
[13:39] <BluesKaj> patrickgamer, we need to show the driver in use , hence the terminal command
[13:39] <hitsujiTMO> BluesKaj: driver is nouveau. have that from his xorg.log
[13:42] <BluesKaj> nouveau works ok with some monitor resolutions , but not all...think he needs the nvidia-current driver , hitsujiTMO
[13:43] <hitsujiTMO> BluesKaj: yup. i'd agree there
[13:44] <patrickgamer> great.
[13:44] <hitsujiTMO> patrickgamer: am i right in thinking this is a 450?
[13:44] <patrickgamer> i'm on a work hangout but as soon as I get out I'll install that driver.
[13:44] <BluesKaj> patrickgamer, in the terminal , sudo apt-get install nvidia-current , then you'll have to reboot
[13:44] <patrickgamer> hitsujiTMO: no, it's an nvidia 560M
[13:46] <BluesKaj> patrickgamer, alt+F2 type additional drivers , check what's available
[13:46] <hitsujiTMO> 560m. hmm. interesting that you're not using optimus then.
[13:46] <dfgf> TJ-: What can I do if HP doesn't answer me? Submit a bur report to bugzilla.kernel.org?
[13:49] <Trebs> Noob needs help with desktop on hd4000 not fitting 50" screen. xrandr only solution?
[13:50] <hitsujiTMO> Trebs: what do you mean by "not fitting 50" screen"?
[13:50] <Trebs> edges outside tv-screen
[13:51] <hitsujiTMO> Trebs: thats an issue with the tv. you need to disable overscan
[13:51] <Trebs> ok and option exists on older tv's as well? 5 year old plasma
[13:51] <cigrits> yeah check your scale settings.
[13:52] <hitsujiTMO> trebs they should do
[13:52] <yassine111> watch
[13:52] <cigrits> i have a ~3 year old samsung with that option
[13:52] <Trebs> ok thank you, I'll go check
[13:52] <patrickgamer> thanks guys
[13:55] <dfgf> has anyone dealed with HP support for Linux related issues?
[13:57] <nettezzaumana> hello
[13:58] <nettezzaumana> i resolved my question already, sorry, no ask :D
[13:58] <ikonia> dfgf: yes, many times
[13:58] <ikonia> dfgf: how does this fit into #ubuntu ?
[13:59] <dfgf> I don't know if i should fill a bur report, becaue i've tried everithing i can imagine.
[13:59] <dfgf> *because
[14:00] <ikonia> dfgf: a bug report on what ?
[14:00] <dfgf> There s not a Touchpad swither but SO acts like it would
[14:01] <ikonia> dfgf: what you said makes no sense
[14:01] <chach23> Hi! I have gigabyte p34g I understand it has an ambient light sensor. Could someone suggest how do I go about getting ubuntu to detect it and display the value please?
[14:02] <ikonia> chach23: does it have linux support ?
[14:02] <chach23> ikonia: the company itself does not appear to support linux, but ubuntu runs on it well
[14:02] <dfgf> Sorry Touchpad is detected and managed by "evdev" but it seems "disabled". It doesn't move cursor, or a click or anything
[14:02] <ikonia> chach23: that doesn't mean that device supports linux
[14:02] <ikonia> dfgf: have you checked it's linux support status
[14:02] <TJ-> dfgf: If the touchpad works under Windows on that device, but not with Ubuntu, try this testing guide and if you confirm its a software issue, report a bug as recommended in those testing guides: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/Testing
[14:03] <dfgf> TJ-: It doesn't work on SUSE, Maegia, Fedora 20...
[14:03] <ikonia> dfgf: have you checked it's linux support status
[14:03] <dfgf> same issue
[14:04] <TJ-> dfgf: Well, start with Ubuntu and then you can always link to an upstream bug report later
[14:04] <dfgf> ikonia: evdev module is loaded and running
[14:04] <ikonia> dfgf: have you checked it's linux support status
[14:05] <dfgf> ikonia: no. How?
[14:05] <ikonia> dfgf: look up the device from the hardware vendor and see if there is any linux support for it - if so what does it detail the support requirements are
[14:05] <dfgf> ah
[14:05] <ikonia> dfgf: also looking up the device on one of the many linux hardware compatability databases, and again, checking it's support requirements
[14:06] <chst> ls
[14:07] <Maveryck> ciao
[14:08] <GREECE|Sinis> arrivederci
[14:11] <hardy1> hi
[14:11] <hardy1> i need some help please
[14:11] <dfgf> ikonia: I'd like to use my TouchPad with a different operating system (DOS, UNIX, OS/2, Linux). You can use the TouchPad as a standard pointing device with these systems by using a standard mouse driver. Synaptics does not provide TouchPad drivers for these systems, so you won't be able to take full advantage of all of TouchPad's enhanced features with these systems. However, independent software developers have created Linux drivers that
[14:12] <dfgf> xor-input-synaptics
[14:12] <hardy1> lsusb tells me 007: ID 0fce:adde Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB Boot loader
[14:12] <hardy1> and i want to connect over adp
[14:12] <hardy1> i mean a fastboot-connection
[14:12] <nyc-h0st_> all, i have a process console-kit-dae using 4GB of memory, what in the world is that thing?
[14:13] <hardy1> i suppose that i need firmware still, but how i can doo it?
[14:13] <nyc-h0st_> seems some process to track users, but 4GB of memory?
[14:13] <nishi> frnd how to install wine-1.1.14?
[14:13] <Rory> !atemyram | nyc-h0st_
[14:15] <dfgf> ikonia: But Ubuntu uses evdev insthead of synaptics
[14:18] <TJ-> nyc-h0st_: See bug #232557
[14:18] <TJ-> nyc-h0st_: Ahh, ubottu isn't showing links... here it is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/consolekit/+bug/232557
[14:19] <dfgf> ikonia: There is no info on google if y type my synaptics touchpad
[14:21] <MssngPrsn> so i'm having trouble getting grub2 to recognize my xp partition, i have grub-customizer installed, but don't know what to enter in to make it show up
[14:22] <ogra_> TJ-, thats fixed since natty ...
[14:23] <belkinsa> Is there a way to sync the programs that you have installed via Software Center?
[14:24] <BluesKaj> MssngPrsn, open a terminal, sudo os-prober, then run, sudo update-grub
[14:24] <BluesKaj> MssngPrsn, grub customizer is clunky and dangerous
[14:24] <trijntje> belkinsa: I think so, if you have ubuntu one. You can also use dpkg --get-selections, google it for the exact procedure
[14:25]  * ObrienDave loves grub-customizer ;P
[14:25] <trijntje> belkinsa: I see in software center you can go to file -> synchronise computers
[14:26] <belkinsa> But will that stay if you reinstall Ubuntu on that same computer?
[14:27] <belkinsa> Or is that all in Ubuntu One?
[14:27] <trijntje> belkinsa: yeah, because it stores it in ubuntu one. So if you reinstall and connect to ubuntu one again you should get all your programs back
[14:27] <belkinsa> Okay, thank you.
[14:28] <trijntje> But I've never used it myself, you can also store all your programs in a file as a backup
[14:28] <trijntje> in a terminal: dpkg --get-selections > software.txt, then if ubuntu one fails you can still have all your programs
[14:30] <ObrienDave> trijntje, and how would you load those to re-install?
[14:30] <ObrienDave> *that file
[14:31] <belkinsa> I think it just gives a list what is installed on your computer/
[14:31] <belkinsa> ObrienDave^^^
[14:31] <ObrienDave> yup, got it. there is probably a way to do that
[14:32] <trijntje> ObrienDave: belkinsa http://askubuntu.com/questions/101931/restoring-all-data-and-dependencies-from-dpkg-set-selections
[14:32] <belkinsa> Thank you.
[14:32] <ObrienDave> trijntje, thanks
[14:36] <sixtustha5> Hello all
[14:37] <oquidave> hello
[14:38] <oquidave> how do i upgrade my ubuntu 12.04 to 13.10 from a usb flash disk?
[14:38] <OerHeks> oquidave, upgrade 12.04 > 13.04 > 13.10
[14:39] <OerHeks> so that could take such a time, fresh install will be faster
[14:39] <oquidave> OerHeks: is that possible using iso images already downloaded?
[14:40] <OerHeks> oquidave, unlikely all your installed packages are available on an iso
[14:40] <oquidave> OerHeks: am fine with just upgrading the core OS itself
[14:41] <linuxearth> aria2c is not downloading at the max speed
[14:41] <linuxearth> what can be done?
[14:41] <OerHeks> oquidave, putting in a 13.10 iso and adding it to your sources, won't work
[14:42] <OerHeks> !upgrade
[14:42] <linuxearth> aria2c is not downloading at the max speed...what can be done?
[14:42] <wlemuel> linuxearth: u can try axel
[14:42] <linuxearth> axel?
[14:42] <linuxearth> what's that dude?
[14:43] <wlemuel> linuxearth: another application for download (multi-)
[14:43] <linuxearth> oh
[14:43] <linuxearth> its better than aria2c?
[14:43] <ObrienDave> linuxearth, look for apt-fast ppa
[14:43] <wlemuel> linuxearth: I always use axel ^k^
[14:43] <linuxearth> axel is that good?
[14:44] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:49] <ubuntuaddicted> hi guys, i have a reproducible crash with pulseaudio. i am trying to get the audio to play through my internal analog card as well as the hdmi out from my AMD graphics card. i enabled the simoltanious output from within pulseadudio preferences and everytime i play something with vlc pulse crashes and restarts
[14:49] <oquidave> OerHeks:  okay so i've to move from 12.04 to 12.10 to 13.04 then finally to 13.10 ?
[14:50] <OerHeks> oquidave, yes indeed
[14:50] <ObrienDave> oquidave, yes, but if you wait until April, you can go from 12.04 to 14.04 directly
[14:51] <imghost> oquidave, why not a fresh install?
[14:53] <TJ-> ogra_: Hasn't been backported to Precise though, according to the last comment by Scott
[14:53] <MssngPrsn> so i'm having trouble getting grub2 to recognize my xp partition, i have grub-customizer installed, but don't know what to enter in to make it show up
[14:54] <ObrienDave> MssngPrsn, did the suggestion given you work?
[14:54] <BluesKaj> MssngPrsn, did you try the suggestions ?
[14:55] <MssngPrsn> I didn't see any suggestions
[14:55] <ObrienDave> BluesKaj> MssngPrsn, open a terminal, sudo os-prober, then run, sudo update-grub
[14:55] <BluesKaj> ??
[14:55] <PleaseHelpMe> I'm trying to install nvidia 331 drivers on  Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with the Edgers repository, but when I try to load the nviida kernel module, I keep getting an error:  http://pastebin.com/tTexiYX4   <-- any suggestions?
[14:55] <oquidave> ObrienDave: thanks, but i can't wait till then though
[14:56] <PleaseHelpMe> hey is anyone using an NVidia 780M card?
[14:56] <MssngPrsn> BluesKaj: No volume groups found
[14:56] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj: herro ;)
[14:56] <PleaseHelpMe> <-- Rey
[14:56] <ObrienDave> oquidave, i c. then yes, you MUST stair step ;P
[14:56] <PleaseHelpMe> * Roey
[14:56] <oquidave> the problem is i've a custom application pre-bundled with ubuntu 12.04 and so i need to just upgrade

[14:58] <ogra_> TJ-, precise (12.04) is a year younger than natty (11.04) ... would be funny if it would not have the fix
[14:58] <MssngPrsn> BluesKaj: Here's my pastebin: http://paste.debian.net/73264/
[15:01] <ubuntuaddicted> has anyone gotten audio to output to 2 sound cards using pulseaudio? my pulse will crash everytime when I try
[15:01] <nemsterr> hello
[15:05] <nemsterr> i'm having trouble installing ubuntu alongside windows 8. first the cd wouldnt boot, i disabled secure boot and installed the 'booting tool' included on the installation cd. grub starts, when i 'try ubuntu without instalation' i receive an error message "failure reading sector 0x0 from 'cd0' you need to load the kernel first; press any key to continue"
[15:05] <nemsterr> when i press anything it goes back to the grub
[15:06] <thecodethinker> When I check my OpenGL version with glxinfo I get two version numbers. The core profile version (3.3) and the OpenGL verison (3.0). Should I be able to use opengl 3.3 programs or only 3.0 and below?\
[15:07] <nemsterr> when i try installing i receive a message 'windows failed to start. a recent hardware or software change might be the cause. to fix the problem insert windows installation disc and click repair your computer
[15:07] <BluesKaj> mnemon, try installing ubuntu in legacy mode in uefi/bios
[15:07] <alket> Is there a portable LAMP ?
[15:07] <patrickgamer> BluesKaj: I've switched drivers via "additional drivers" and rebooted. I still don't get new resolution options.
[15:08] <BluesKaj> oops nemsterr^
[15:08] <nemsterr> BluesKaj: is that for me ?
[15:08] <BluesKaj> yes
[15:08] <nemsterr> ok thanks buddy. ill give a go and report
[15:08] <robotti^> 667
[15:08] <BluesKaj> patrickgamer, check the nvidia settings
[15:09] <BluesKaj> nvidia control that is
[15:09] <patrickgamer> BluesKaj: hmmm. nvidia has the right monitor... but the resolution settings app doesn't
[15:10] <patrickgamer> waa?
[15:10] <patrickgamer> BluesKaj: ah... i think i see
[15:10] <ehnde> i'm trying to install 13.10 and the installer is stalling out on me. it has been sitting at "Preparing to install Ubuntu" for 20 minutes now. any suggestions?
[15:11] <patrickgamer> BluesKaj: xserver only set up on one display, not both
[15:11] <BluesKaj> patrickgamer, nvidia puts acontrol gui where you casn set up resolutions , but not sure where to find it on unity gnome , I'm a kde user
[15:11] <PleaseHelpMe> Heya BluesKaj
[15:11] <loa> hello. how i can inspect what use my space on hard drive?
[15:11] <BrianH> Is there a better way to see all installed Applications on a system than using Unity's Dash?
[15:11] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj: could you help me with an nvidia driver issue?  I try and load the nviida kernel module but get an error
[15:11] <BrianH> Something perhaps like OSX's Launchpad?
[15:12] <patrickgamer> BluesKaj: found it. i've got to enable xserv on both screens and reboot
[15:12] <loa> for example fast move between direcotories and check size of different directories.
[15:12] <ehnde> BrianH: sudo dpkg -l
[15:12] <BrianH> ehnde: GUI-side
[15:12] <ehnde> BrianH: sorry, i don't use their gui for package management
[15:12] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj: I get this:  http://pastebin.com/tTexiYX4
[15:13] <BrianH> ehnde: Not for package management, but simply opening an App
[15:13] <BluesKaj> PleaseHelpMe, which nvidia kernel module , how are you trying to load it?
[15:13] <ehnde> BrianH: ahhh ok, i'm using plain old gnome
[15:14] <ehnde> BrianH: you can press alt f2 to "run an application" i think
[15:14] <ehnde> but that still just brings up the unity search
[15:14] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj: kernel module:  nvidia proprietary drivers 331
[15:14] <BrianH> ehnde: Right, I mean viewing all installed Apps, like this: http://currenteditorials.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/launchpad.png
[15:14] <BrianH> Unity's Dash is terrible to navigate.
[15:14] <BluesKaj> PleaseHelpMe, from additional drivers ?
[15:15] <ogra_> BrianH, use th filters
[15:15] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj:  I am issuing "sudo modprobe nvidia", and get the error I linked to above.
[15:15] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj: I actually installed the Edgers PPA
[15:15] <culight> Hi guys, I'm a undergrad student with limited experience and I want to get involved in the Gnome accessibility projects. I'm not sure where to start. What is the best place for me to start?
[15:15] <PleaseHelpMe> trhat provides NVidia 331 drivers
[15:16] <BrianH> I think Slingshot might be what I'm looking for: https://launchpad.net/slingshot
[15:16] <BluesKaj> PleaseHelpMe, why ? have you tried the additional drivers already available , alt+F2 , type additional drivers
[15:17] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj:  because only the 331 drivers seem to suppor the NVidia 780M
[15:17] <PleaseHelpMe> otherwise I would have gone with stock
[15:17] <hitsujiTMO> loa: disk usage analyzer
[15:17] <BluesKaj> 331 drivers are experimental , PleaseHelpMe , afaik ,
[15:17] <PleaseHelpMe> sigh.
[15:17] <PleaseHelpMe> right, I know.  So are the 319 drivers.
[15:18] <PleaseHelpMe> curen ubuntu stock drivers are 304
[15:18] <PleaseHelpMe> *current
[15:18] <PleaseHelpMe> s/stock/proprietary
[15:18] <BluesKaj> PleaseHelpMe, ok try this , sudo apt-get install nvidia-331
[15:18] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj: nvidia-331 is already the newest version.
[15:18] <BluesKaj> 304 driver should provide dir and 3D
[15:18] <gara> test
[15:19] <PleaseHelpMe> not for the 780M card though
[15:19] <BluesKaj> PleaseHelpMe, have you looked at the additional drivbers as i suggested?
[15:20] <actionparsnip> loa: you can see the size of the directories in the pwd with:    du -sch ./*
[15:20] <actionparsnip> PleaseHelpMe: are you getting 3D acceleration?
[15:20] <loa> actionparsnip, yeah i use it, but i want something quick, with database or something.
[15:21] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj:  checked Additonal Drivers.  "Found but not in use".
[15:21] <PleaseHelpMe> "Activated but not in use", rather
[15:21] <PleaseHelpMe> that's what it lists there.
[15:21] <actionparsnip> loa: hmm, not sure of anything like that. I know you can search for files using locate after updated, something like that for space, not sure tbh
[15:21] <actionparsnip> PleaseHelpMe: have you tried:   sudo nvidia-xconfig
[15:21] <PleaseHelpMe> actionparsnip: I am not getting 3D acceleration.  I  get errors when I try to modprobe the nvidia module (12.04 LTS here btw, trying to install drivers for an NVidia 780M)
[15:22] <ouyes> hello everybody, how are you guys doing on UBUNTU
[15:22] <PleaseHelpMe> actionparsnip: the error is in installing hte kernel modjule
[15:22] <actionparsnip> PleaseHelpMe: if you run:   sudo lshw -C display    do you see an Intel GPU as well?
[15:22] <loa> actionparsnip, yeah it is right example base from "locate"
[15:22] <actionparsnip> PleaseHelpMe: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[15:22] <BluesKaj> PleaseHelpMe, then choose one that is lower down that's more stable and click on activate
[15:22] <PleaseHelpMe> yes I do have an Intel haswell on this, actionparsnip
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> PleaseHelpMe: according to the nvidia site nvidia-319 in ubuntu repo supports 780m
[15:23] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj: the 331 driver listed is the only one there
[15:23] <actionparsnip> PleaseHelpMe: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc     its a single line, so no need to pastebin :)
[15:23] <BluesKaj> PleaseHelpMe, try actionparsnip suggestion , you may have an optimus dual gpu setup
[15:24] <PleaseHelpMe> actionparsnip: precise
[15:24] <actionparsnip> PleaseHelpMe: then you have that Optimus garbage and need Bumblebee to support it.https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[15:25] <PleaseHelpMe> that's what we were seeing.  Itis an MSI  laptop
[15:25] <wallzero> Greetings. I have installed Ubuntu 13.04, but it has not installed the wireless drivers. How to I install the drivers for an Intel 6235 adapter?
[15:25] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: whats output of: lspci
[15:26] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj, actionparsnip:  MSI GT70 laptop
[15:26] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6235 (rev 24)
[15:26] <BluesKaj> PleaseHelpMe, sudo lshw -C video, pastebin the output
[15:27] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: lspci -nn | grep Network                          then please
[15:28] <ubuntu_girl> hi boys can u  help me understand this regular expression ?  sed 's,^.*index="\([^"]\+\)".*<list>\([^<]\+\)</list>.*$,\1\,\2,g' or how can i decode it online?
[15:28] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6235 [8086:088e] (rev 24)
[15:28] <BluesKaj> bb in 5 mins
[15:29] <gara> test
[15:29] <p3rror> hello
[15:29] <p3rror> how to upgrade kernel linux in an ubuntu
[15:29] <actionparsnip> p3rror: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:30] <p3rror> actionparsnip, no I can not
[15:30] <p3rror> actionparsnip, run apt-get upgrade
[15:30] <p3rror> actionparsnip, this is a prod machine and I need to keep it as is it
[15:31] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj: in a sec
[15:31] <p3rror> actionparsnip, all I need is to upgrade the kernel
[15:31] <actionparsnip> wallzero: Raring is EOL in a matter of weeks. I suggest you use a wired connection and upgrade to Saucy, or clean install Saucy, then upgrade to Trusty in April
[15:31] <p3rror> actionparsnip, only
[15:31] <somsip> ubuntu_girl: my stab at it "{anything} followed by index="{anything}" {anything} <list>{anything}</list> anything, should be replaced globally by the anything in double quotes, with a comma, and the anything contained in the <list> tag'
[15:31] <actionparsnip> p3rror: yes you will get the latest kernel in the repositories
[15:31] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj: so with Bumblebee, is there a way to set power management policy?  I want to only use the NVidia card.  This laptop is a CUDA development laptop.
[15:31] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:32] <p3rror> actionparsnip, when I run apt-get upgrade it will upgrade many packages that I need to keep
[15:32] <actionparsnip> PleaseHelpMe: it will use the Intel by default but if you prefix commands you want to use the Nvidia GPU with 'optirun' it will use the Nvidia
[15:32] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj: I just installed bumblebe
[15:32] <PleaseHelpMe> ok
[15:32] <p3rror> actionparsnip,  all I need is to get the last starble kernel version from kernel.org
[15:32] <PleaseHelpMe> actionparsnip: is there a way to set it to NVidia by default?
[15:32] <actionparsnip> p3rror: then try:  sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic    and it will only update that package
[15:32] <actionparsnip> PleaseHelpMe: seems a bit silly to have optimus then.....
[15:33] <PleaseHelpMe> I just want to get nvidia running.
[15:33] <PleaseHelpMe> right now,
[15:33] <PleaseHelpMe> I get this error when I try loading the driver.
[15:33] <actionparsnip> PleaseHelpMe: some applications don't need it, like text editors and so forth
[15:33] <actionparsnip> PleaseHelpMe: did you install Bumblebee?
[15:33] <PleaseHelpMe> actionparsnip: I did.
[15:33] <PleaseHelpMe> it inbstalled without error.
[15:33] <p3rror> actionparsnip, no there are already a personalized kernel installed instead of the ubuntu kernel
[15:34] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: what is the output of cat /etc/issue
[15:34] <p3rror> actionparsnip, I can get the kernel from kernel.org but I need to keep the same config find in .config
[15:34] <PleaseHelpMe> actionparsnip: so yes, I did install bumblebee.  What now, reboot?4\
[15:34] <PleaseHelpMe> *reboot
[15:34] <p3rror> actionparsnip, I did a locate .config but I did not find it
[15:35] <PleaseHelpMe> BluesKaj, actionparsnip: I will BRB (this is Roey btw)
[15:35] <wallzero> actionparsnip: My apologies, this is a fresh install of Saucy. Not 13.04 then, but 13.10.
[15:35] <actionparsnip> !kernel | p3rror
[15:36] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: Saucy.
[15:36] <actionparsnip> PleaseHelpMe: yes, reboot
[15:36]  * actionparsnip wishes Optimus would fade out
[15:36] <PleaseHelpMe> actionparsnip: aye aye, keptin
[15:37] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: please pastebin output of: dmesg | grep iwlwifi
[15:38] <Toph> i upgraded from 13.04 to 13,10 but I seem to still have the former login screen appearing each time the computer comes out of suspend. I have power set to login without password, but the former login seems still active
[15:38] <actionparsnip> wallzero: if you run:    sudo iwlist scan | egrep -I 'chan|ssid'     do you see lots of networks on the same channel?
[15:39] <molqr> trying to install ubuntu 12.04 on a win8 box .. it has uefi ... so when it comes to the grub installation stage.. it can't find windows ... should i install grub to MBR?
[15:40] <actionparsnip> !uefi
[15:40] <bekks> !grub2
[15:40] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: dmesg | grep iwlwifi outputs nothing.
[15:41] <HelpRoeyThanks> HI
[15:41] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: please pastebin dmesg
[15:41] <actionparsnip> wallzero: if you run:    sudo iwlist scan | egrep -I 'chan|ssid'     do you see lots of networks on the same channel?
[15:41] <HelpRoeyThanks> BluesKaj,  actionparsnip;  well now the nvidia 331 driver loads.
[15:41] <actionparsnip> HelpRoeyThanks: cool
[15:41] <BluesKaj> HelpRoeyThanks, ok good to hear
[15:42] <HelpRoeyThanks> However, now I get this error when I try glxinfo: trogdor@trogdor:~$ glxinfo  name of display: :0.0 Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[15:42] <HelpRoeyThanks> BluesKaj, actionparsnip:  ^
[15:42] <BluesKaj> HelpRoeyThanks, install mesa-utils
[15:42] <actionparsnip> HelpRoeyThanks: try:  optirun glxgears
[15:42] <ubuntuaddicted> could someone tell me how to apply a diff patch to a file please?
[15:43] <ubuntuaddicted> well, i think i have a diff patch
[15:43] <ubuntuaddicted> this is what I have http://cgit.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/patch/src/pulsecore/resampler.c?id=e4adf9c4d8a33509828b9b7658d4cccc7f5af563
[15:44] <HelpRoeyThanks> BluesKaj, actionparsnip:  optirun glxinfo WORKS
[15:44] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/gtiSC37i
[15:44] <actionparsnip> HelpRoeyThanks: yes, that's the NVidia GPU stepping in, otherwise you will use the Intel thing and save power
[15:44] <wallzero> actionparsnip: I only see lo and eth0
[15:44] <HelpRoeyThanks> BluesKaj, actionparsnip:  How can I set this up so that my desktop environment and all other commands gthat use GL use NVidia by default?
[15:44] <OerHeks> ubuntuaddicted, short guide to diff and patch >> http://jungels.net/articles/diff-patch-ten-minutes.html
[15:45] <actionparsnip> HelpRoeyThanks: you will need to make aliases, or edit the .desktop files that run applications you want to run on your Nvidia GPU
[15:46] <HelpRoeyThanks> actionparsnip: there is no qui k setting in the bumblebee configuration for this?
[15:46] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: output of: lsmod
[15:46] <actionparsnip> wallzero: do you dual boot?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> actionparsnip, are we absolutely sure he's got an optimus setup , never did see any indication so far , or is that particular nvidia chip only used in optimus setups
[15:46] <actionparsnip> HelpRoeyThanks: you will just need to edit them using a text editor.
[15:47] <HelpRoeyThanks> BluesKaj, actionparsnip: bbswitch won't work?
[15:47] <HelpRoeyThanks> actionparsnip: edit the what, the desktop files?
[15:47] <wallzero> actionparsnip: No. This is a fresh install with LUKS and ZFS. Everything else is working smoothly. I believe the wifi is an independant issue
[15:47] <actionparsnip> BluesKaj: NVidia + Intel = optimus     lshw -C display shows both so it uses optimus junk and is a massive headache
[15:48] <HelpRoeyThanks> actionparsnip: I don't seem to have a ~/.desktop
[15:48] <BluesKaj> ok actionparsnip i must have missed that paste
[15:48] <actionparsnip> HelpRoeyThanks: eg:  gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop       and change the Exec=   command to start with 'optirun'
[15:48] <xdccMule[692FR]> hello
[15:48] <HelpRoeyThanks> oh, ok
[15:48] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/niSRcNdW
[15:48] <actionparsnip> wallzero: is it a laptop?
[15:48] <wallzero> actionparsnip: Yes.
[15:49] <ubuntuaddicted> OerHeks, so is this a patch file? http://cgit.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/patch/src/pulsecore/resampler.c?id=e4adf9c4d8a33509828b9b7658d4cccc7f5af563
[15:49] <actionparsnip> wallzero: is the wifi enabled in BIOS? Do you have a hardware switch or key combo to enable / disable the wifi?
[15:50] <wallzero> actionparsnip: No. No hardware switch and it is enabled in the bios. I had a similiar install of 13.04 previously with LUKS and BTRFS with working wifi.
[15:50] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: can you try: sudo modprobe iwlwifi
[15:50] <rostam> hi I am not sure if this is a right place to ask. So forgive me in advance.  I would like to unmount the filesystem on my linux box when reboot command issued. Is this possible? thx
[15:51] <OerHeks> ubuntuaddicted, i am not sure what to make out of that
[15:51] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:791 kmod_module_insert_module: could not find module by name='iwlwifi'
[15:51] <jhutchins> rostam: What other behavior do you imagine occurrs?
[15:52] <OerHeks>  ubuntuaddicted you might want to check #pulseaudio too
[15:53] <actionparsnip> wallzero: are there any bugs reported?
[15:54] <ubuntuaddicted> OerHeks, ok, so you don't know what patches look like? I guess I assumed since you linked me to a patch guide you were familar with the standard format they were in
[15:54] <wallzero> actionparsnip: None that I know of. I could not find any.
[15:55] <OerHeks> ubuntuaddicted, yes, but i used to have the patch or diff file as seperate file, not like this.
[15:55] <demophobia> Should IRC be the last resource one tries in problem solving?
[15:55] <demophobia> I've compiled a list of problems I have with ubuntu at http://demophobia.netne.net/compprob.html
[15:55] <demophobia> I'm thinking perhaps I should post in message boards before coming here ...
[15:56] <demophobia> and search the internet before posting
[15:56] <actionparsnip> wallzero: may want to report the issue. Maybe a BIOS update would help, or try the boot option:  noacpi
[15:56] <qcjn> hi. one of my computer is dead. I'm in it right now with a booted usb of ubuntu. I ran an "sudo fdisk -l" but it doesn't see the disk with the Ubuntu system on it ? Any suggestion ?
[15:56] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-firmware
[15:56] <rostam> jhutchins, sometimes after issuing reboot command. My system is stopped at the grup menu.
[15:56] <jhutchins> demophobia: An internet search enegine should generally be your first resource.
[15:56] <demophobia> so 1) search internet, 2) post in message boards, 3) post link to message board here ... is that a good use and understanding of this channel?
[15:56] <actionparsnip> demophobia: use it as well as searching. Its all part of the community
[15:56] <jhutchins> demophobia: You should also look for relevant pages on wiki's related to the distribution and to the general subjects you're looking for.
[15:56] <ikonia> demophobia: there is nothing wrong with just using irc
[15:57] <jhutchins> demophobia: If you've at least doen that and your question isn't too obscure, or about some rare configuration or software, IRC can be great real-time help.
[15:57] <demophobia> You don't see any hierarchy or ordered methodology for problem solving, ikonia ? i'm wondering about the mechanics of getting a problem solved as quickly as possible, while also minimizing the work needed by the community.
[15:57] <actionparsnip> demophobia: if you unload then reload the driver module for the wireless, does it work ok then?
[15:57] <jhutchins> rostam: That is after it has shut down.
[15:57] <ikonia> demophobia: just ask if you need help - it's a pretty simple model
[15:57] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: linux-firmware install    linux-firmware-nonfree install
[15:58] <demophobia> actionparsnip, I don't know if that's what unplugging and plugging back in does or not ...
[15:58] <ubuntuaddicted> OerHeks, i'll copy all that text into a file to create my patch file BUT do I need this line? index 17f1783..38c5202 100644
[15:58] <jhutchins> rostam: If you pay attention to the console messages as the system shuts down, you will see "unmounting all file systems" as one of the later steps.
[15:58] <actionparsnip> demophobia: give it a try, if it is the fix, we can make it happen each time you boot
[15:58] <demophobia> i have nearly no experience with drivers -- last was back with ubuntu 6.06 or 9.04 trying to get wireless working
[15:58] <demophobia> i don't know how to unload and reload a driver
[15:58] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: this is just odd. cant find the module yet its installed :P
[15:58] <Dragon64> laptop with an external monitor running an updated install of Ubuntu 13.10. When I close the lid it suspends even though settings in the ui are set to "do nothing" and I have changed /etc/systemd/logind.conf to add "HandleLidSwitch=ignore" and rebooted. any suggestions ?
[15:59] <actionparsnip> demophobia: sudo lshw -C network     will show the module, you can then run:  sudo modprobe -r foo; sleep 3; sudo modprobe foo
[15:59] <rostam> jhutchins,  yes you right, then the question is why I get stuck on grub menu sometimes when I get issue reboot command? thx
[15:59] <actionparsnip> Dragon64: does the system have a make and model?
[15:59] <demophobia> thanks, i'll write this down. i thought i should return the adapter to the store and buy a different one -- netgear advertises this product as being for "windows laptops"
[15:59] <demophobia> and i've got a desktop here
[15:59] <demophobia> (and not windows)
[15:59] <Dragon64> yes its an hp pavillion g4 ... low end laptop
[16:00] <OerHeks> ubuntuaddicted, i don't know, maybe someone else here knows?
[16:00] <actionparsnip> demophobia: the physical kit doesn't matter, laptop and desktop doesn't matter any
[16:00] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: I installed non-free and the iwlwifi-6000g2b-6.ucode after I had issues but before I came on IRC for help. Would I have to update-initramfs?
[16:00] <XonDK> ok anyone here able to help me, for some reason lightdm is refusing to work correctly even though before my reboot it worked just fine and worked together with x11vnc to give me what I needed, is there any other way to get access to the unity/ubuntu desktop via vnc for my remote server, only have terminal access currently
[16:00] <jhutchins> demophobia: I would include man pages, /usr/share/doc/*, and the web pages for projects, often found through sourceforge.
[16:01] <actionparsnip> XonDK: what do you do on the remote system in the VNC session?
[16:01] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: update-initramfs would be triggeed by a hook
[16:01] <hitsujiTMO> triggered*
[16:01] <jhutchins> demophobia: As far as the wireless adapter goes, rfkill is a utility you can use to control that.
[16:01] <demophobia> actionparsnip, I see that in principle concerning hardware, however, this adapter is also about the width of a thumbnail, and I think something the size of an older USB flash drive -- e.g. ~6 cm -- might physically be capable of receiving a stronger signal
[16:01] <OerHeks> ubuntuaddicted, i think you have the diff now, and any @@ is a patch
[16:01] <my> jizz
[16:01] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: I ran it manually. I will restart and also check my BIOS settings.
[16:02] <actionparsnip> demophobia: try the module manipulation. it may be the fix :)
[16:02] <actionparsnip> XonDK: what is the purpose of the VNC connection? You will probably find there is a sleeker and faster alternative
[16:02] <jhutchins> rostam: I've had that problem sometimes as well - in fact, I think my server is currently doing that.  (I don't reboot it that often.)  I think that somehow grub thinks a "keyboard event" has occurred - you've hit some key to stop the default boot process.  I don't know if there's  a single fix for it.
[16:03] <XonDK> actionparsnip: I use it for general navigation and easier set up of various stuff, and I already put a few things onto the desktop, which i'd like to use, totally open to better ways though
[16:03] <ubuntuaddicted> OerHeks, ok, i just don't know if i need those couple beginning lines OR the end line
[16:03] <Dragon64> lid action is handeled by logind.conf correct?
[16:03] <actionparsnip> XonDK: surely when its setup, it's done...?
[16:03] <Yud_Zroc> I just did a SMART test on my HDD, and was wondering about "Read Error Rates" and "Seek Error Rates". I am wondering what is a "very bad" value vs a "normal" value
[16:04] <actionparsnip> XonDK: if you want file access, then you can access SFTP using Nautilus and access your file securely over the network
[16:04] <XonDK> actionparsnip: yeah, that's just it, it was set up, x11vnc was working fine and reboot and boom and now lightdm does not want to work at all
[16:04] <rostam> jhutchins,  I found this on web: http://askubuntu.com/questions/55551/how-can-i-force-ubuntu-to-boot-on-a-stuck-boot-menu
[16:04] <jhutchins> Yud_Zroc: Generally, a value that is increasing over time is bad.
[16:04] <demophobia> jhutchins, wouldn't rfkill correspond to the GUI in the top right of the screen, where i can click to enable/disable it? the problem, though, is that i am first met with the 'enable wireless' greyed out, and the message 'disabled due to hardware switch' ...
[16:04] <XonDK> actionparsnip: wasn't completely done with the setup using the GUI because I am not comfortable with linux yet and its easier to find out stuff with it
[16:05] <gvo> XonDK: Had the same thing happen when I did a apt-get upgrade.
[16:05] <XonDK> gvo: found a way to fix it?
[16:05] <gvo> Nope, finally installed another dm
[16:05] <qcjn> if fdisk doesn't show the disk it's because there's a problem with this disk (or connection ) ?
[16:05] <hitsujiTMO> Yud_Zroc: just looking at mine, i have 0 and 0
[16:05] <Yud_Zroc> jhutchins: I just looked at it for the first time, and the number is 68m for read (assesment says ok) and seek error 39m(assesement also says ok)
[16:06] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: BIOS confirms power to the wifi adapter and update-initramfs did not make a difference.
[16:06] <Yud_Zroc> time for a new HDD I assume?
[16:06] <actionparsnip> Yud_Zroc: is it an old drive?
[16:06] <ubuntuaddicted> can anyone tell me if this is a correctly formatted unified diff file?
[16:06] <ubuntuaddicted> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6663434/
[16:07] <Yud_Zroc> actionparsnip: no its a 5 month old computer
[16:07] <actionparsnip> Yud_Zroc: you could always try hdparm to set more specific drive tunings
[16:07] <hitsujiTMO> Yud_Zroc: whats your threshold at?
[16:07] <nashant> Hey guys. Anyone else have issues with the cursor in chrome?
[16:07] <Yud_Zroc> actionparsnip: I am not familir with that, more details on my HDD 68783944 (Normalized: 114, Threshold: 6, Worst: 99)
[16:08] <demophobia> actionparsnip, when you said "sleep 3", do you mean to wait three seconds before executing the next terminal command?
[16:08] <Yud_Zroc> That is Read Error Rate
[16:08] <jhutchins> demophobia: "Hardware Switch" is what rfkill handles.
[16:08] <actionparsnip> demophobia: yes, run it as one command and it will happen on its own
[16:09] <actionparsnip> Yud_Zroc: search online, possibly could be a bad drive but its still under warranty
[16:09] <Yud_Zroc> actionparsnip: thanks ill check it up
[16:11] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: once again can you try: sudo modprobe iwlwifi
[16:12] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:791 kmod_module_insert_module: could not find module by name='iwlwifi'
[16:12] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: But /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf exists.
[16:13] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: i'm confised on this one
[16:14] <actionparsnip> wallzero: what is the output of:  uname -a
[16:14] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: This seems like a similar problem but with 13.04: http://askubuntu.com/questions/353047/no-wlan0-interface-after-uninstall-ubuntu-13-04
[16:15] <wallzero> actionparsnip: Linux xxxxxxxxx 3.11.0-14-generic #21-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 12 17:04:55 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:15] <actionparsnip> wallzero: running Saucy (Ubuntu 13.10)?
[16:15] <ubuntuaddicted> well scrap that, even if i apply the patch i'd still have to recompile and reinstall pulseaudio so I may as well just compile the latest pulse and install that.
[16:15] <actionparsnip> !info Linux-image saucy
[16:15] <actionparsnip> !info Linux-image-generic saucy
[16:15] <wallzero> actionparsnip: Yes.
[16:15] <actionparsnip> !info linux-image-generic saucy
[16:16] <actionparsnip> wallzero: ok so fully updated :)
[16:16] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone have a good guide for installing the latest pulseaudio into 12.04.3?
[16:16] <actionparsnip> ubuntuaddicted: check the official documentation 'sound troubleshooting procedure'
[16:16] <actionparsnip> ubuntuaddicted: its a big command but will update your Alsa
[16:17] <actionparsnip> ubuntuaddicted: and pulse
[16:19] <ubuntuaddicted> actionparsnip, looking at sound troubleshooting guide i don't see anywhere for installing the latest pulse and also into 12.04.3 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1885240
[16:19] <jhutchins> demophobia: In answer to your question about lists, you can embed lists within lists, but redefining the style of a DL so that it automatically numbered the entries isn't a standard feature.
[16:20] <actionparsnip> ubuntuaddicted: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[16:20] <actionparsnip> ubuntuaddicted: too obvious?
[16:20] <HelpRoeyThanks> BluesKaj, actionparsnip  Hi!  So after installing Bumblebee, I was able to launch the Unigine Valley benchmark with Optirun.  My only issue now is performance:  I get 8 FPS where I see others on Youtube withg the same CPU and GPU pullling 40.
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: whats output of: lspci -k | grep Network
[16:23] <demophobia> jhutchins, thanks, that's the impression i'm getting. unfortunately, embedding an ordered list and definition list doesn't seem to work, since it only numbers the lists, rather than the list entries ...
[16:23] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6235 (rev 24)
[16:23] <ubuntuaddicted> actionparsnip, oh ok, the "procedure" instead of the "guide" Thanks. I see that would only install version 2.0 for precise and I need a version after July of 2012 since there was a patch released then that fixes a resampler.c crash
[16:24] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: It seems some Arch users have had issues as well, but kernel 3.10 should have fixed them: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=164764&p=2
[16:25] <jhutchins> demophobia: Yes, that is the expected behavior.
[16:26] <vantage> Hi, I'm running a new Dell XPS 13, which I've upgraded to 13.10. Currently the wifi doesn't seem to work with any kernel above 3.8. It's the Intel 7260 and I've grabbed the latest firmware and copied it over to /lib/firmware. How can I tell which firmware it's using?
[16:26] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: sorry, i should have asked for output of: lspci -k | grep -A 2 Network
[16:26] <jhutchins> demophobia: It is possible to do this by embedding individual DLs within each OL entry, or by manually formatting each LI.
[16:27] <actionparsnip> ubuntuaddicted: a search for:   Ubuntu sound troubleshooting procedure     gives it as the top link
[16:27] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6235 (rev 24) Subsystem: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6235 AGN
[16:28] <demophobia> ah, i see, thanks, jhutchins ... it seems better to use CSS to format the dt rather than create a dl for each li
[16:28] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: It also lists my ethernet card, which is working: 03:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS5209 PCI Express Card Reader (rev 01)
[16:29] <demophobia> or format the dl, if not each dt ...
[16:29] <Lizards|Work> join #ubuntu-server
[16:29] <Lizards|Work> bah
[16:29] <Lizards|Work> sorry ;)
[16:29] <actionparsnip> wallzero: try:   dmesg | grep -i Centrino
[16:29] <actionparsnip> demophobia: did the command work ok, for the wifi device?
[16:30] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: There is no output.
[16:30] <actionparsnip> !bug 1180256 | wallzero
[16:30] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: can you try booting an older kernel and see if it loads?
[16:31] <ubuntuaddicted> has anyone compiled pulseaudio from git into 12.04.3?
[16:31] <demophobia> actionparsnip, sorry, i haven't tried. i've been doing other things. i will probably try it tomorrow when i boot up the PC again.
[16:32] <demophobia> thank you, though, since it could save me ~$40 ... i dunno if i should try replacing the card for speed, though -- i need to compare the specs of these wireless adapters
[16:32] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: I only have 3.11.0-14-generic and 3.11.0-12-generic
[16:33] <hitsujiTMO> wallzero: try 12
[16:34] <wallzero> hitsujiTMO: Okay I will have to use Trusty.
[16:34] <actionparsnip> wallzero: its LTS (when it is released) :)
[16:35] <wallzero> actionparsnip: Oh thats good. In April?
[16:41] <x0011BF> Oi oi, I got this bash script online to set up a virtual wifi network, and it doesn't quite work in its original form. The original form is this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6663582/
[16:41] <x0011BF> The problem is something to do with dhcpd, which doesn't seem to work as advertised. It works when modified as such, to use dnsmasq: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6663574/
[16:41] <x0011BF> In the original script, there's a "killall dhcpd" call at the end. I find that if I killall dnsmasq, it messes with my DNS and the host computer's connection. However, I also find that if for some reason the script needs to be re-started, I need to re-start the host computer completely to get it working again.
[16:41] <actionparsnip> wallzero: yes in April 2014
[16:42] <x0011BF> Is there something better I can be restarting, like just the networking or DNS or something?
[16:42] <x0011BF> Or possibly even better, is there some way to make it so I don't need to restart anything? I'm not quite sure what it is that is persistent about the task.
[16:43] <nautiluss> Is it possible to compile a libreoffice installer from ubuntu for windows?
[16:44] <jhutchins> x0011BF: Don't you want to manipulate the DHCP client instead of the server?
[16:44] <actionparsnip> nautiluss: how do you mean? Like make an MSI to install with etc?
[16:45] <nautiluss> actionparsnip, mhm. I'd like to enable a module and compile it
[16:45] <aFeijo> I need help with memcached :)
[16:46] <nautiluss> I just attempted on cygwin but the dependencies are non-stop
[16:46] <Pici> nautiluss: This really would be a better question from the libreoffice people to determine how their build process works for Windows.
[16:47] <BluesKaj> nautiluss, you don't need a linux installer for libreoffice , http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=win-x86&version=4.1.4&lang=en-US
[16:47] <nautiluss> Pici: placed my eggs in multiple baskets
[16:47] <mar77i> hmm. is there a way to store keyboard and mouse settings from the current X11 state?
[16:48] <mar77i> I have a wireless keyboard and on lightdm it's just not there
[16:49] <cholsu_> make ubuntu phone
[16:50] <ikonia> </slow hand clap>
[16:50] <nautiluss> BluesKaj, I won't be able to use the main version of LO because the telepathy module (allows for collaboration) is disabled by default
[16:51] <aFeijo> my memcached is mixing up my sites, how to fix this?
[16:52] <[[thufir]]> I'm on 13.10 and what is this "google news"  app (what?) with an icon in unity2d.  It acts like it's caching news articles, there are these little pop ups every second or two.  what?  I can't find much about this.
[16:52] <cholsu_> cls
[16:52] <Lizards|Work> you must've clicked one of the nag pop-ups
[16:55] <actionparsnip> [[thufir]]: does it run in your system tray in the top right?
[16:56] <x0011BF> jhutchins: Oops, missed the notification somehow.
[16:56] <x0011BF> jhutchins: Why would I want to manipulate the client?
[16:56] <x0011BF> This script runs on the host computer, which is broadcasting a wifi network, so it needs to be a DHCP server for anything that connects.
[16:59] <bekks> x0011BF: I'd set up dhcpd properly then, without weird scripts.
[17:00] <x0011BF> Well in this case I'm using DNSMasq.
[17:00] <[[thufir]]> actionparsnip: exactly.  well, system tray on left.  (system tray are icons of applications like firefox, tbird, files, etc?)
[17:00] <bekks> I'd use dhcpd, and not dnsmasq
[17:01] <debasis> Hello friends
[17:01] <x0011BF> Hrm, I had some reason for changing from dhcpd.
[17:01] <bekks> x0011BF: which one?
[17:01] <x0011BF> Also, what do you mean "without weird scripts"?
[17:01] <Lizards|Work> "<x0011BF> Oi oi, I got this bash script online to set up a virtual wifi network"
[17:01] <[[thufir]]> oh, this nag app is on the top right too:   http://www.howtogeek.com/119560/how-to-install-and-use-ubuntus-new-web-apps-feature/   weirdness.
[17:01] <x0011BF> Yeah, it needs to run a script to bind it to a tunnel interface.
[17:02] <x0011BF> And the tunnel interface goes up and down and such.
[17:02] <x0011BF> Oh, actually.
[17:02] <mar77i> hmm. so... xorg config is still a problem. apparently the users' settings contain more information about the wireless keyboard than what lightdm manages to configure...
[17:02] <x0011BF> I must not have changed it from DHCPD.
[17:02] <x0011BF> http://nims11.wordpress.com/2013/05/22/using-hostapd-with-dnsmasq-to-create-virtual-wifi-access-point-in-linux/
[17:03] <debasis> Today I have downloaded MySql 5.6 from MySql site, and i got a the software package, but i dont know how to install it, please help me.
[17:03] <x0011BF> I must have gotten it from this nearly identical script using DNSMASQ.
[17:03] <bekks> debasis: did you get a .deb for Ubuntu?
[17:03] <Lizards|Work> debasis, is it a .tar.gz?
[17:03] <[[thufir]]> x0011BF: if you're having trouble with wifi, I suggest the iogear adapter.  There's literally **no** driver, it's just ethernet cable.
[17:03] <x0011BF> [[thufir]]: I'm not having trouble with wifi.
[17:04] <x0011BF> I have an unorthodox configuration where I'm running a wifi hotspot from a virtual machine.
[17:04] <debasis> yes, its a tar file
[17:04] <x0011BF> Over a VPN.
[17:04] <x0011BF> It actually works totally fine.
[17:05] <Lizards|Work> debasis, easiest thing to do is to install it via apt-get or download a deb
[17:05] <Lizards|Work> otherwise you're compiling from source most likely
[17:05] <x0011BF> The only problem is that if the tunnel interface goes down, the script needs to be run again.
[17:05] <x0011BF> And I think it's leaving something running that causes a conflict when I try to run it again.
[17:05] <actionparsnip> debasis: is there not a PPA?
[17:05] <debasis> Lizards|work:- But the MySql site is not giving any deb
[17:06] <Lizards|Work> so the other two options: install via apt-get or compile from source
[17:06] <debasis> MySQL-client-5.6.15-1.linux_glibc2.5.i386.rpm..........This is the file name
[17:06] <Lizards|Work> rpm is a fedora/centos/redhat file
[17:07] <Lizards|Work> you could install that with alien, but compatibility issues are gonna be fun to troubleshoot later
[17:07] <designbybeck> I tried to put a bunch of fonts in my /usr/share/fonts folder and I think it messed up some system fonts
[17:07] <debasis> then what file i have to download for this Ubuntu?
[17:07] <CAP8504> buenas tardes
[17:07] <designbybeck> In the termnial with default fonts selected I have all littls Boxes as the fonts
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> debasis  use tasksel (task select)
[17:08] <Pici> designbybeck: What release of Ubuntu are you running now? Do you need 5.6 or is 5.5 okay?
[17:08] <Pici> debasis: What release of Ubuntu are you running now? Do you need 5.6 or is 5.5 okay?
[17:08] <debasis> monkeyDust:- whats it?
[17:08] <designbybeck> ubuntu 13.10 64bit Pici
[17:08] <Pici> designbybeck: sorry, I mistabbed :/
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> debasis  you can install mysql with it
[17:08] <debasis> I need 5.6 or 5.5...no problem...i just wanna learn
[17:09] <OerHeks> !find MySQL-client
[17:09] <debasis> pici:- Can u help me?
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> debasis  need or want?
[17:09] <Pici> debasis: Then just sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.5
[17:09] <yash069> anybody can help with apache mod_rewrite question ?
[17:10] <yash069> does the redirect sends referer in header ?
[17:10] <debasis> pici:- have u install mysql?
[17:10] <Pici> yash069: Thats probably a better question for #httpd
[17:10] <Pici> debasis: Yes, many times.  The command I just gave you will install it.
[17:10] <debasis> can that command will install 5.6 also?
[17:10] <yash069> Pici: okay thanks, i'll try there
[17:11] <Pici> debasis: no, 5.6 is not available in our repositories.
[17:11] <_victor_> buenas tardes
[17:11] <debasis> pici:- ok ok dear, thanks a lot, im trying, if any problem, i will contact u
[17:11] <actionparsnip> debasis: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=mysql%2Dserver%2D5.6
[17:11] <Pici> debasis: Just ask here if there is a problem, I may not be available.
[17:11] <Pici> actionparsnip: I don't think a PPA is really needed in this situation....
[17:12] <debasis> pici:-ok
[17:12] <actionparsnip> just another option :)
[17:12] <designbybeck> Here is what my default fonts look like in Terminal now. I tried to do a bulk install of some fonts into /usr/share/fonts And it messed up stuff: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=64678
[17:13] <actionparsnip> designbybeck: have you tried other fonts?
[17:14] <designbybeck> yes actionparsnip if I switch it other fonts work
[17:14] <debasis> pici:- im getting the following error, please help
[17:14] <designbybeck> But the shutdown screen is all Squares as well actionparsnip
[17:14] <debasis> pici:-     E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:14] <debasis> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:14] <actionparsnip> designbybeck: then the fonts are either corrupt or non-standard
[17:14] <actionparsnip> debasis: is software centre open, or are updates installing?
[17:14] <Pici> debasis: Do you have another package management tool open? like the software center?
[17:14] <designbybeck> these should have been fonts I just copied from the last distro when I backed it up and moved them over :/
[17:14] <actionparsnip> debasis: or is apt-get running?
[17:15] <debasis> no
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> debasis  if you don't know what it, then you shouldnt try to install something from outside the repos
[17:15] <jhutchins> debasis: First obvious question: are you using sudo?
[17:15] <actionparsnip> debasis: reboot to be sure, if it's still bad, head back and we can give a command
[17:15] <designbybeck> I'm not sure which fonts to remove and what to keep actionparsnip
[17:15] <debasis> ok, im rebooting
[17:15] <glitsj16> designbybeck: did you refresh your font caches after dropping files into /usr/share/fonts ?
[17:16] <designbybeck> glitsj16, I dont' think so. I've restarted a few times
[17:16] <jhutchins> Hm, wonder if this is still valid...
[17:16] <jhutchins> !adept crash fix
[17:16] <glitsj16> designbybeck: not sure if it will help, but you can try   sudo fc-cache -f -v
[17:17] <designbybeck> glitsj16, what does that do?
[17:17] <designbybeck> glitsj16,  doesn't seem to have fixed it
[17:18] <glitsj16> designbybeck: it rebuilds all your font caches, nothing is removed or added etc
[17:19] <glitsj16> designbybeck: might need to close/re-open your terminal, not sure
[17:19] <designbybeck> the shutdown dialog and some fonts in the HUD are still messed up glitsj16
[17:20] <actionparsnip> designbybeck: could log off and on again
[17:20] <OerHeks> might need to logout/login after the font chacke action
[17:20] <OerHeks> chacke=cache
[17:21] <glitsj16> designbybeck: tried temporarily renaming ~/.fontconfig yet?
[17:22] <fra> ciao a tutti
[17:23] <debasis> pici:- r u there?
[17:24] <designbybeck> can someone show me the default fonts that should be in /usr/share/fonts ?
[17:25] <darkblue_b> designbybeck: yes I will look on a VM here
[17:25] <debasis> pici:- r u there?
[17:25] <debasis> Hello friends, i need some help
[17:25] <actionparsnip> debasis: did the reboot help?
[17:26] <debasis> actionparsnip:- yes fried
[17:26] <debasis> friend**
[17:26] <actionparsnip> debasis: sweet
[17:26] <designbybeck> thank you darkblue_b
[17:27] <debasis> actionparsnip:- bro, thanks
[17:27] <actionparsnip> debasis: easy days :)
[17:27] <debasis> actionparsnip:-Another thing, in my ubuntu, the icons are comming in left side in a bar
[17:27] <debasis> actionparsnip:-can i take that bar to down?
[17:28] <debasis> actionparsnip:- u there?
[17:29] <darkblue_b> designbybeck: http://paste.debian.net/73324/
[17:29] <vfw> designbybeck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fonts
[17:29] <darkblue_b> .. that is XUbuntu 12.04
[17:29] <whatisthematrix> debasis: he left... he'll probably be back
[17:29] <sushi_> hey
 can u please help me?
[17:29] <whatisthematrix> debasis: you mean the whole menu bar?
[17:29] <sushi_> what's up
[17:29] <debasis> yes
[17:29] <OerHeks> debasis, there is no tweak to move the unity panel AFAIK
[17:29] <darkblue_b> oh - that font list is interesting.. I have a little black book on my shelf.. about fonts.. btw
[17:29] <designbybeck> thanks darkblue_b  and vfw this might take a while
[17:30] <debasis> ok
[17:30] <sushi_> what's the command to see the different channels?
[17:30] <debasis> but, when im running any program, like a browser, that bar is not getting hide
[17:30] <debasis> Its always be in front
[17:31] <OerHeks> debasis, there is unity-tweak, to do those settings and more
[17:31] <designbybeck> Do we think it might be an owners right issue? Like maybe root owns the fonts?
[17:31] <whatisthematrix> debasis: there's a setting where you can set it to auto-hide, so it slides to the left and is hidden, until you put your mouse cursor over there. then it will re-appear
[17:31] <vfw> designbybeck: You might be a candidate for a different DE
[17:31] <debasis> ok..please tell me that
[17:32] <designbybeck> why vfw ? This was a clean install I was just tryingt o bulk install some of my fonts and this happened
[17:32] <vfw> designbybeck: What are you trying to do?
[17:32] <whatisthematrix> debasis: ok, on the menu bar is a settings iconn, or maybe it's called system settings. click on it. then click on the 'appearance' option icon in there
[17:33] <designbybeck> vfw,  was just trying to bulk install fonts to my system so I didn't have to do them one at a time
[17:33] <vfw> designbybeck: Yes, they are owned by root.
[17:33] <designbybeck> and I guess soemthing over wrote a default font vfw
[17:33] <darkblue_b> hehe - I did that .. 10,000 fonts and one bad one.. crashed the font util
 yes i did
[17:33] <whatisthematrix> debasis: when you are in the appearance seetings, there's tabs at the top. click on the right-hand tab
 then?
[17:33] <darkblue_b> I tracked it down and removed the font..
[17:33] <whatisthematrix> debasis: when you are in the appearance settings*, there's tabs at the top. click on the right-hand tab
[17:34] <vfw> designbybeck: Anything you install system-wide requires admin priviledges.
[17:34] <glitsj16> designbybeck: it would be helpfull if you showed us what command you exactly used when dropping those fonts in
[17:34] <darkblue_b> .. by single stepping through the OpenSource(tm) python font util
[17:34] <whatisthematrix> then click the auto-hide menu bar option to auto-hide
 yes
[17:34] <whatisthematrix> then click the auto-hide menu bar option to yes*
[17:34] <whatisthematrix> debasis: that got it?
[17:35] <whatisthematrix> debasis: done?
 the tab name is behaviour?
[17:35] <whatisthematrix> debasis: yes. sorry, i'm in kde right now
[17:35] <vfw> !fonts | designbybeck
[17:35] <debasis> ok
[17:35] <morgana_> !list
[17:36] <debasis> got it bro
 thanks
[17:36] <whatisthematrix> debasis: you're welcome
  but when im moving cursor on it, its not again comming
[17:37] <whatisthematrix> debasis: it should, i don't know why it wouldn't
[17:37] <debasis> ok
[17:38] <whatisthematrix> debasis: left-click on the desktop and try again
[17:38] <tiina> hi how can I repair in my ubuntu this:E: Kunde inte skriva till /var/cache/apt/
[17:38] <tiina> E: Kunde inte tolka eller öppna pakelistorna eller tillståndsfilen.
[17:38] <tiina> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[17:38] <tiina> W: Använder inte låsning för skrivskyddade låsfilen /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[17:38] <darkblue_b> "Debian Fonts Task Force" hehe
[17:38] <bekks> darkblue_b: One man show? :P
[17:41] <morgana_> !list
[17:41] <OerHeks> !adept
[17:42] <OerHeks> no morgana, no warez here :-D
  im sorry bro, not getting it
[17:42] <OerHeks> !adept crash fix
[17:42] <whatisthematrix> debasis: not sure i know how to help much more than i have. someone else might know. describe the problem to the channel
  ok thanks a lot, no problem
  actually that icon bar is not a problem
[17:43] <whatisthematrix> debasis: and i have to go. i have work to get to doing. you're welcome. good luck!
 the problem is, when im opening any application, that application is not comming in full screen due to that bar
[17:44] <bekks> After installing lubuntu-desktop along with ubuntu-desktop, how can I change the the splash screen at booting to "Ubuntu" again, instead of "Lubuntu"?
[17:44] <debasis> please help
[17:45] <Lizards|Work> which bar? the unity launcher?
[17:45] <bekks> Lizards|Work: Yes.
[17:46] <darkblue_b> hey all - one file is destroyed on my system here.. it shows question marks for perms and owner:group.. what to do ?   '/var/lib/lightdm/.gvfs'
[17:46] <Lizards|Work> System Settings -> Appearance -> Behavior (it's a tab) -> Auto-hide the launcher
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> bekks  try this line    sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[17:46] <debasis> After opening any application, for example a browser or the terminal, its not comming in full screen bcoz some space is taken by the icon bar at the left side
[17:46] <Lizards|Work> debasis, System Settings -> Appearance -> Behavior (it's a tab) -> Auto-hide the launcher
 once i did that, but again the luncher is not comming
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> debasis  press F11
[17:47] <Lizards|Work> i don't even
 really ubuntu is so problematic
[17:48] <Lizards|Work> not really
[17:48] <debasis> :(
[17:49] <debasis> ok, not i may think for windows again to install, bcoz i am facing a lot of problem here
[17:49] <bekks> debasis: If your app doesnt "fullscreen" but respects the launcher at the left, then that is just maxing out the available area, and not full screen. Thats a application issue, not an Ubuntu issue.
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> debasis  what kind of problems?
[17:49] <debasis> i am very new in ubuntu
[17:50] <Lizards|Work> which ubuntu?
[17:50] <Lizards|Work> 13.04, 12.10, 12.04?
[17:50] <Lizards|Work> unity's still evolving
[17:50] <debasis> 12.04 LTS
[17:50] <darkblue_b> no idea what to do about this blasted file?
[17:50] <Lizards|Work> your problem is with your old old old old old unity
[17:50] <Lizards|Work> darkblue_b, gvfs is dark magic
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> debasis  learning something new can be hard, like you once had to learn computer systems
[17:50] <darkblue_b> :-(
[17:51] <darkblue_b> I wonder if I can restore from a backup
[17:51] <debasis> So facing lots of problem in installing software, lots of command need to be known here, in windows, just double click and finish ur work
[17:51] <Lizards|Work> lol
[17:51] <Lizards|Work> closed source
[17:51] <Lizards|Work> nothing to learn
[17:51] <darkblue_b> debasis: every system has its strengths and weakness
[17:51] <imghost> !manual | debasis
[17:51] <Lizards|Work> it's all either set up to run or it will never run
[17:51] <xangua> debasis: in ubuntu you just open Software Center and install what you need from there
[17:52] <debasis> I am really very interested in Ubuntu, but dont know why getting frustrated
[17:53] <Lizards|Work> linux administration isn't everybody's cup of tea
[17:53] <DarthEaron> hi, i am trying to get touchegg to work with 3 finger guestures. right now it only reads two finger drags, it does not see taps, pinches or ratations. i know my touchpad is capable of it because it worked in windows and synclient -m 100 shows that i can use 3 fingers. geistest however says my touchpad is only a two touch capable touchpad. im running ubuntu 12.04 with all updates, im using xfce4 if thats relavent.
[17:54] <arun__> guys, which kernel is the best?
[17:54] <kostkon> !manual | debasis
[17:54] <imghost> Debasis,read the manual,try to proceed slowly its just you are not  familiar with linux
[17:54] <[[thufir]]> anyone know the automated software to test postfix?  it automates "telnet localhost 25" etc?
[17:55] <imghost> !best | arun__
[17:55] <DarthEaron> [[thufir]]: if you just want to telnet yourself at vertian times, you could use crontab
[17:55] <debasis> Yes, im not familiar with Linux/unix
[17:56] <debasis> where to get the ubuntu manual?
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> debasis  just double click and work, cybercriminals know that too
[17:56] <kostkon> debasis, http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[17:56] <Lizards|Work> i find that using man-pages and apropos, i can solve many tasks without google [ debasis ]
[17:56] <debasis> ok
[17:57] <DarthEaron> does anyone have any comment towards my question?
[17:57] <[[thufir]]> DarthEaron: yeah, I was looking for some program I ran once which does it in a nice way.
 what do u mean to say?
[17:57] <DarthEaron> [[thufir]]: are you talking about touchegg or crontab?
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> debasis  easy access for you, means also easy access for criminals
[17:58] <imghost> Debasis read his post again :D
[17:59] <[[thufir]]> maybe touchegg  but I don't think so.  it's not a cron thing, it just makes it easier than typing in all the telnet commands.  it's in apt-cache, but there are ten million results for e-mail and smtp.
[17:59] <debasis> Ohh, u people are making fun on me, ok fine.I dont know and trying to take help from u.it doesnt mean that u will laugh
[17:59] <DarthEaron> [[thufir]]: okay wait, so what is it your actually trying to achive?
[18:00] <Lizards|Work> debasis, i'm not. i'm trying to help you find the builtin tools
[18:00] <imghost> Debasis, nop we are not
[18:00] <[[thufir]]> "telnet localhost 25"  but it's a program which does the whole thing for you in one command.  I've used it before, but can't find the name of the software to install.
[18:00] <Lizards|Work> don't know which utility to use? `apropos [task]` where [task] is what you want to do, or a keyword
[18:00] <[[thufir]]> DarthEaron: to test postfix.  not a cron thing.
[18:01] <Lizards|Work> don't know how to use the utility? `man [utility]` where [utility] is what came up in apropos
[18:01] <[[thufir]]> Lizards|Work: it's not a utility.
[18:01] <jebs> hello there! Any of you met the problem of installing Dropbox and getting this error: "Nautilus-Share-Message: Called "net usershare info" but it failed: 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory /var/lib/samba/usershares. Error No such file or directory Please ask your system administrator to enable user sharing." ?
[18:01] <debasis> ok fine, if u people are doing so, then i will think u dont know how to help
[18:01] <Lizards|Work> lots of things are utilities
[18:01] <DarthEaron> jebs: have you punched that into google?
[18:01] <[[thufir]]> ok....what's the name of the utility to apropos on?  it's not telnet...
[18:02] <Lizards|Work> lol
[18:02] <Lizards|Work> apropos schedule
[18:02] <Lizards|Work> apropos chron
[18:02] <jebs> (ok DarthEaron, you're right, but i don't know why my internet connection is extremly slow... )
[18:02] <[[thufir]]> Lizards|Work: nope, I'm not trying to use cron
[18:02] <centran> anyone know of any central cron managment software?
[18:02] <Lizards|Work> you want to do something, periodically?
[18:02] <Myrtti> debasis: what kind of responses were you expecting then?
[18:03] <Lizards|Work> man anacron
[18:03] <[[thufir]]> Lizards|Work: nope.  I want to 'telnet locahost 25' etc to test postfix.  there's program to do that, but I can't find it in apt-cache, there are ten million results.
[18:03] <jebs> @DarthEaron: actually i've punched it in google but the connection was to slow to get the answer
[18:03] <Lizards|Work> why don't you use telnet from the command-line then?
[18:03] <Lizards|Work> if you only have to use telnet once
[18:04] <[[thufir]]> Lizards|Work: there's a program which does it nicely for you, I'm just trying to remember the name.  I can't find it in google. oh well.
[18:04] <Lizards|Work> does it nicely?
 They should know that, if someone is asking and if someone already told that he is new in linux, then if they will laugh and make fun, will u appreciate it?
[18:04] <intrader> Anyone, is there a forum more specific to mysql questions like how to stop mysql?
[18:04] <Lizards|Work> i would thing if you've spent this much time looking for a solution you could've done it manually hundreds of times
[18:04] <Myrtti> debasis: I didn't see anyone laughing and making fun, I saw people giving you links to stuff they thought would be helpful
[18:04] <DarthEaron> jebs: That message is not a Dropbox message but a Nautilus message
[18:05] <debasis> Its better, i dont need any help, and i will try my owm, thanks for ur help
[18:05] <[[thufir]]> Lizards|Work: it does it easily.  I don't need or want a cron job, but I will do it several times.  yes, I could script -- but someone's already done that and it can be installed from apt-get.
[18:05] <Myrtti> debasis: if those links and commands they suggested weren't what you were expecting, then I'd really want to know what kind of responses you were expecting instead
[18:05] <mark_953> hahahaha <<<<now thats laughing!
[18:05] <DarthEaron> jebs: this is what came up first after quick google. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1986232, next time try there first. its usually faster.
 i asked for ubuntu manual
[18:06] <debasis> if u can help, then please
[18:06] <Myrtti> debasis: and you were given a link to a website, was that not what you wanted?
[18:06] <debasis> dont ask about anyone, plz
[18:07] <Myrtti> debasis: http://ubuntu-manual.org/ <-- what's wrong with this?
[18:07] <debasis> it was a manual for 13.02
[18:07] <[[thufir]]> debasis: what's the actual problem.  people are willing to help you, but, don't take this the wrong way, there are trolls who come on this channel just to wind people up.  how can I/we help you right now?
[18:07] <Lizards|Work> debasis, http://ubuntu-manual.org/download/12.04e2/en_US/screen
 i have never asked u to help
[18:08] <[[thufir]]> debasis: it helps if you say "I see on page three of the manual..." and ask a specific question.
[18:08]  * [[thufir]] gives up
 thanks bro
[18:08] <demophobia> cool, thanks, Lizards|Work, that will help me also, i think.
[18:09] <jebs> DarthEaron: ok. I had the same opened, but as I said, my internet was slow and it didn't seem the solution although it is writtent [SOLVED]. thanks! i'll try that again with more attention.
[18:09] <Lizards|Work> you probably needed to be more specific about wanting a manual for 12.04
sorry bro
 i am admitting my mistake
[18:10] <Lizards|Work> no worries
[18:10] <Lizards|Work> it was on that page though
[18:10] <Lizards|Work> i understand it defaults to the newest version, but the old versions are there too
[18:10] <kostkon> debasis, you can select the ubuntu version on the download page
[18:10] <debasis> ok
[18:10] <debasis> i see
[18:10] <debasis> kostkon:- ok
[18:11] <debasis> This is my request for here my all friends, please forgive me who ever angry on me
[18:12] <intrader> Anyone, what I find in "<IP_ADDRESS>. Starting and Stopping MySQL Automatically" in http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/automatic-start.html (shell mysql.server stop) gets into a subshell of mysql that I don't know how to stop excep via CTRL-C
[18:13] <kostkon> debasis, no worries
[18:14] <[[a]> hello
[18:14] <kostkon> [[a], hi
[18:15] <debasis_> can i got the mysql dev file?
[18:16] <foxx> what?!
[18:16] <bekks> debasis_: What is "the mysql dev file"?
[18:17] <debasis_> means, like windows is providing softwares in .exe file, so just double clicking on it, they gets installed
[18:17] <rcw2> when i go to grooveshark.com on konq and click sign in it downloads a file and doesn't allow me to sign in.   any thoughts on why?
[18:17] <bekks> debasis_: How is that related to whatever "the mysql dev file" might be?
[18:17] <debasis_> is there any mysql software available for ubuntu like that?
[18:18] <bekks> debasis_: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[18:18] <debasis_> i know this
[18:18] <bekks> debasis_: thats how you install mysql server software on Ubuntu.
[18:18] <gvo> debasis_: If you double click on a .deb file you will be given an option to install it.
[18:19] <imghost> !mysql-server | debasis_
[18:19] <gvo> But you'd have to download it first, the apt-be does both.
[18:19] <debasis_> gvo:-yes... im telling the same
[18:19] <gvo> apt-get
[18:19] <bekks> debasis_: If you know that - what is your actual question?
[18:19] <adminewb> hi all, I have some trouble in a recent upgrade from lucid to precise 12.04 32bit i386; it no longer gives access to the USB wireless adapter(RALink based I believe); boot.log shows that it can't find the device for wlan0; what should I look at now? ndiswrapper wasn't required on lucid, to my knowledge
[18:19] <debasis_> gvo:- is there any .dev file for mysql?
[18:19] <Lizards|Work> .deb
[18:19] <bekks> debasis_: What is a ".dev" file?
[18:20] <gvo> ^^^
[18:20] <Lizards|Work> http://google.com#q=mysql+.deb
[18:20] <imghost> Debasis_ dev ??
[18:20] <bekks> debasis_: Install the mysql server software as you have just been told.
[18:20] <[[thufir]]> well, I found that little utility to automate telnet test for smtp.  it's called swaks.  anyhow.
[18:20] <debasis_> sorry, its .deb
[18:20] <bekks> debasis_: Do not install random .deb files, but use the package management system.
[18:20] <debasis_> why, whats the problem?
[18:21] <gvo> Yes there is a .deb file for many flavors of mysql but as beks says, don't bother.
[18:21] <Lizards|Work> do you trust strangers compiling things for you debasis_?
[18:21] <bekks> debasis_: You will break your system. If that is not a problem for you, keep installing software as you like.
[18:21] <mark_953> wont it go to the software center once he selects the .deb?
[18:21] <intrader> dbasis, which version of ubuntu are you on?
[18:21] <hexacode> anyone know an anti port abuse utility , easy to use...not iptables mind you..i want something to sit on port 22 and if too many failed attempts happen, it locks out the ip address, or locks down the port for a period of time that gradually increases with abuse?
[18:21] <debasis_> no no, ur right
[18:21] <heavyammo> I am trying to follow this PGP tutorial but I am running Xubuntu not Ubuntu, could someone tell me the actual name of the program that I need? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1146081
[18:21] <DarthEaron> question, how do i see what driver is begin used to manage my touchpad, Im trying to find out why synclient can see 3 fingers,but geistest cannot.
[18:21] <debasis_> i should not
[18:21] <bekks> debasis_: Or, do as you have been told multiple times already: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[18:21] <imghost> Debasis_ you will find everything in the official repi
[18:21] <imghost> Repo
[18:22] <Lizards|Work> ctrl + alt + t
[18:22] <Lizards|Work> to get a terminal
[18:22] <debasis_> means in the ubuntu software center
[18:22] <debasis_> is it?
[18:22] <bekks> debasis_: yes.
[18:22] <debasis_> ok fine
[18:22] <trijntje> heavyammo: seahorse
[18:22] <adminewb> are there other logs I should be looking at?
[18:22] <intrader> debasis, please answer to the list by prepending the name of the member and following by :
[18:23] <debasis_> intrader:- sorry, i will do that
[18:23] <heavyammo> trijntje, <3
[18:23] <intrader> debasis_, please answer to the list by prepending the name of the member and following by :
[18:24] <Speiros> Can someone direct me to a page that leads me to be able to open my gmail account on my thunderbird please.
[18:24] <intrader> debasis_, good job - I like to know which version of ubuntu are you on
[18:24] <Lizards|Work> http://google.com#q=thunderbird+gmail
[18:24] <Speiros> It is in pop3 and I don't want it to be, I don't think
[18:24] <Speiros> Thanks Lizards|Work
[18:24] <debasis_> intrader: its 12.04 LTS
[18:25] <kelvinella> hello
[18:25] <trijntje> Lizards|Work: telling people to look stuf up on google is not helping
[18:25] <trijntje> !lmgtfy
[18:25] <mark_953> Speiros:  lamessaging.com/en-US/kb/thunderbird-and-gmail
[18:26] <bekks> trijntje: As long as it isnt an Ubuntu support issue, it is a good idea to tell them how to get the information wanted.
[18:26] <Speiros> Thanks mark_953
[18:26] <imghost> +1 bekks
[18:28] <intrader> debasis_, thanks, on 12.04 LTS mysql is installed by default - to see if it is running `ps aux| grep sql` (enter the command in a terminal) or issue sudo service mysql status
[18:28] <bekks> intrader: the mysql server inst installed by default on 12.04
[18:29] <intrader> bekks, I was told that last night on this list
[18:29] <bekks> intrader: On the server version, maybe. On a desktop, it isnt installed by default.
[18:29] <debasis_> intrader:- its showing un recognize service
[18:29] <adminewb> how can i tell in detail what happened with the loading of device drivers, including the USB wireless adapter?
[18:29] <bekks> debasis_: Then install it as you have been told multiple times now.
[18:30] <debasis_> bekks:- Are u angry on me?
[18:30] <intrader> debasis_, what do you get when you issue `sudo service mysql status` on the terminal?
[18:30] <Lizards|Work> adminewb, at some point ubuntu switched to a networking daemon
[18:30] <bekks> debasis_: No. I just dont get the point why you are procastinating from your actual issue "how do I install a mysql server on ubuntu".
[18:31] <debasis_> intrader:-unrecognized service
[18:31] <adminewb> Lizards|Work thanks, where do such daemons log?
[18:31] <intrader> debasis_, bekks is not mad at you, he is helping
[18:31] <Lizards|Work> i'm looking for what i did to solve the issue adminewb
[18:32] <Lizards|Work> adminewb, which version are you on now? 12.04?
[18:32] <intrader> debasis_, what about to command `ps aux | grep sql`
[18:32] <adminewb> yes 12.04 LTS
[18:32] <debasis_> intrader:- then he should talk like u, but its just something els
[18:32] <imghost> !attitude | debasis_
[18:32] <ikonia> debasis_: you've been told how to install mysql - install it and ask any follow up questions
[18:32] <Lizards|Work> adminewb, http://askubuntu.com/a/325055
[18:33] <ikonia> debasis_: rather than telling a story that no-one is really interested in or trying to pick fault with the guy that's actually given you the correct answer
[18:33] <adminewb> thanks much Lizards|Work
[18:33] <Lizards|Work> i'm pretty sure that's where i had to start
[18:33] <Lizards|Work> broadcom drivers/kernel modules
[18:33] <bekks> debasis_: Well ok - do what you want, I wont help you anymore, since you dont want to listen. Good luck, maybe someone else is going to help you.
[18:34] <debasis_> ok ok, sorry guys.Its better im now from here.U people are very disturbed bcoz of me
[18:34] <debasis_> im leaving
[18:34] <debasis_> sorry, if i hury u
[18:34] <debasis_> hurt u**
[18:34] <houkouonchi-home> anyone here knowledgeable about ubuntu networking init scripts and what might cause the TERM signal to be sent?
[18:34] <Speiros> Thanks once again to both Lizards|Work and mark_953.  Worked just fine.
[18:35] <streamer> I run a file from ssh, how do I make it a startup job? I have to launch it in the terminal by ./sc_trans sc_trans_mrs.conf , how do i make it to run as a daemon?
[18:35] <ikonia> houkouonchi-home: term to what ?
[18:35] <ikonia> !upstart | streamer
[18:35] <houkouonchi-home> ikanobori: TERM sent to network-interface eth0 pre-start process
[18:35] <mark_953> Speiros:  no problem sir!
[18:35] <streamer> thanks, will look into it :)
[18:36] <houkouonchi-home> ikanobori: periodically seeing machines that come up with no eth0 configured... doing ifup eth0 brings them up or rebooting brings them up as well
[18:36] <houkouonchi-home> ikanobori: http://pastebin.com/uUwSQW0Y
[18:36] <ikonia> houkouonchi-home: is it static or dynamic configuration
[18:36] <houkouonchi-home> static
[18:36] <ikonia> houkouonchi-home: ok, so that isn't going to be a termination
[18:36] <ikonia> houkouonchi-home: I suspect thats the device not being available at configuratin time
[18:37] <houkouonchi-home> ikonia: well according to the dmesg output its seeing the ethernet device about a second before the init script is being killed, no different from when the machine boots with eth0
[18:37] <ikonia> houkouonchi-home: your paste backs that up
[18:37] <intrader> bekks, from https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCsQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2Flts%2Fserverguide%2Fmysql.html&ei=K73BUs_KDcrroATUioCgAg&usg=AFQjCNFeQe-XKccybpe_lF-uOlg8B-35qg&bvm=bv.58187178,d.cGU :'As of Ubuntu 12.04, MySQL 5.5 is installed by default.'
[18:37] <ikonia> houkouonchi-home: it looks like there are problems (potential problems) bringing the interface online in the OS for configuration
[18:38] <bekks> intrader: You are looking at the _server_ guide :P
[18:39] <imghost> Bekks, +1
[18:39] <houkouonchi-home> ikonia: well I was wondering if maybe it has something to do with iscsi transport class? it seems like its loading that one almost at the same time as the others but then it bitches about not being able to wait and in that output I see it loaded later before?
[18:40] <ikonia> houkouonchi-home: not from what I'm reading, but I could be wrong
[18:40] <houkouonchi-home> ikonia: could you point out to me on which line number you think the potential problem is happening?
[18:40] <intrader> bekks, no, I just asked the question in google:is mysql installed on ubuntu 12.04 by default?
[18:41] <ikonia> houkouonchi-home: I don't see it as a "line number" there is nothing conclusive in there
[18:41] <imghost> Intrader, lts/serverguide/mysql.html
[18:41] <houkouonchi-home> ikonia: ok well I was going by you saying the output seemed to suggest what you were saying
[18:41] <ikonia> houkouonchi-home: 27.472946] bnx2 0000:01:00.0 eth0: using MSIX
[18:41] <ikonia> [   27.473039] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[18:41] <ikonia> houkouonchi-home: if you look there - it can't bring up the card and that's before configuration
[18:41] <houkouonchi-home> ikonia: well it does that same thing when it comes up just fine too though
[18:42] <adminewb> Lizards|Work downloaded the firmware .deb file, now I'll try out their advice; crossed fingers
[18:42] <ryoungs66> If I was making a program for both ubuntu and windows, what would be the easiest language to write it in?
[18:42] <bekks> intrader: And you got the _server_ guide as a result.
[18:42] <bekks> intrader: We can move on now.
[18:42] <imghost> Intrader, by default on 12.04lts server edition not desktop :)
[18:45] <Burrito> Anyone know a way of faking keyboard input through Python, without using XTest or anything that uses XTest to accomplish it? Every time I try something that uses XTest, I run into the same bug at some point.
[18:45] <intrader> bekks, imghost: thanks - as to my question, where do I find info on how to stop mysql. http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/automatic-start.html tells me to issue mysql.server stop in a shell.
[18:47] <bekks> intrader: service mysql start/stop
[18:47] <bekks> intrader: Stick to the serverguide you just referred :)
[18:49] <intrader> bekks, it shows that 'mysql stop/waiting'
[18:49] <houkouonchi-home> ikonia: http://askubuntu.com/questions/382354/double-interfaces-problem <-- guy with the exact same problem
[18:50] <bekks> intrader: Then wait a few and run service mysql status
[18:50] <intrader> bekks, Ok, I will wait
[18:50] <Lizards|Work> houkouonchi-home, that's a bit like http://xkcd.com/979/
[18:51] <adminewb> Lizards|Work just noticed the module they refer to is for Broadcom devices; mine is an RAlink rt2870; I vaguely recall that rt2800usb is a related module but probably not the only required one; any other thoughts?
[18:51] <houkouonchi-home> Lizards|Work: hahaha yea
[18:51] <Lizards|Work> i've not much idea, i just know that everything went wonky at some point and i was troubleshooting it til i did that
[18:51] <imghost> Intrader, or do this service mysql stop then sudo service mysql restart
[18:52] <bekks> imghost: either stop/start or restart. :)
[18:52] <imghost> Bekks, yes sir
[18:53] <intrader> bekks, imghost , not it is running as process 4100
[18:54] <intrader> bekks, imghost , ... the sudo service mysql restart did that
[18:54] <bekks> intrader: Expected - and?
[18:54] <imghost> Intrader, so what now?
[18:55] <intrader> bekks, imghost , I want it stopped so that nobody can access via dyndns into my home network
[18:55] <solitood> hi, quick question... i have a new toshiba satellite touch screen win8 laptop. does anyone know if installing ubuntu (i typically use wubi) will be more complicated due to the windows8 touch laptop ... id rahter not use wubi so i can make its own partition but after glancing through some forums i'v read that people have trouble installing ubuntu on a win8box
[18:55] <bekks> intrader: Then _stop_ it, instead of _restart_ing it...
[18:55] <imghost> Intrader,sudo service mysql stop simple :)
[18:56] <OerHeks> solitood, wubi does not work on win8, so you are lucky
[18:56] <llutz> intrader: don't bind it to a network-interface if you don't want it being accessible or just remove it completly if you don't want it running at all
[18:56] <Lizards|Work> yeah there's no wubi for 13.X
[18:56] <intrader> bekks, imghost , back to interminable 'mysql stop/waiting'
[18:57] <OerHeks> solitood, if you do not want to touch your filesystem, use virtuabox, but there is an UEFI manual
[18:57] <OerHeks> !uefi
[18:57] <solitood> okay well, i dont have any blank dvds' and the ubuntu iso is 708mb, wont fit on my blnk cds
[18:57] <bekks> intrader: And? Then wait a few and check wether it is still running.
[18:57] <Lizards|Work> solitood, they moved away from the 700MB requirement
[18:57] <intrader> bekks, imghost , and now 'stop: Unknown instance'
[18:57] <solitood> yeah i noticed
[18:57] <imghost> Intrader, close the terminal and lets close this topic
[18:57] <solitood> im not very good with technical stuff, hence why i use ubuntu
[18:58] <Lizards|Work> make a bootable USB?
[18:58] <solitood> i dont have a usb, nor money
[18:58] <Lizards|Work> with startup disk creator
[18:58] <Lizards|Work> ah
[18:58] <Lizards|Work> i understand that
[18:58] <solitood> i just have a few blanks
[18:58] <Lizards|Work> maybe a network install?
[18:59] <OerHeks> !mini
[18:59] <solitood> but if theres a smaller version of ubuntu tht i can install and upgrade online , without having trouble instlling it (i read people hving to disable BIOS and shit cuz of win8 when trying to instll ubuntu and i cant risk fucking up this laptop)
[18:59] <Lizards|Work> solitood, UEFI is not something you're going to easily dodge
[18:59] <solitood> so i just want a simple reliable ubuntu install that shouldnt hve problems making a partition next to win8
[18:59] <Lizards|Work> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[18:59] <intrader> bekks, imghost , on fresh teminal I issued `sudo service mysql status` and I get 'mysql stop/waiting' -- now what?
[19:00] <bekks> intrader: It is stopped now...
[19:00] <imghost> Intrader, wait
[19:00] <houkouonchi-home> net-install is the only way for me =)
[19:00] <OerHeks> please watc your language, solitood
[19:00] <solitood> ok
[19:01] <Lizards|Work> solitood, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[19:01] <solitood> yeah i dont have a blank dvd or usb so that wont work
[19:01] <solitood> just blank cds
[19:02] <Lizards|Work> they say livedvd because that's what they're all supposed to be, the mini-ubuntu _may_ be able to do this anyway
[19:02] <demophobia> How many internal errors is it normal to experience before one may conclude that there is a bad installation or a hard drive failure?
[19:02] <solitood> i guess i'll give it a shot tomorrow on adderall
[19:02] <imghost> Solitood, good luck
[19:03] <Lizards|Work> demophobia, i get periodic (2, maybe 3 a day) system errors in apport
[19:03] <houkouonchi-home> demom: internal errors? I would look at smart stats of said drive or dmesg output if you suspect bad disk
[19:03] <demophobia> what's apport?
[19:03] <Lizards|Work> and my system is still A-OK
[19:03] <solitood> i just dont want my win8 partition screwed up because this laptop didnt come with any reinstall diks
[19:03] <Lizards|Work> demophobia, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport
[19:03] <Lizards|Work> solitood, that's by design
[19:03] <Merce> Hola
[19:03] <Lizards|Work> they want you to make your own restore images solitood
[19:04] <Merce> Holaaaaaaaaaa
[19:04] <Merce> mee veisss
[19:04] <Merce> Helloooo
[19:04] <demophobia> thanks ... it was rhythmbox that crashed this time
[19:04] <imghost> Solitood, are you familiar with linux mate?because there are problems on installing ubuntu on uefi
[19:04] <demophobia> i've had xorg, rhythmbox, and something else crash on me
[19:04] <solitood> yeah i am but iv never heard of ueifi
[19:04] <Merce> Hello
[19:05] <solitood> iv installed ubuntu more times thn i can count
[19:05] <Lizards|Work> solitood, if it's running windows 8, it's running uefi
[19:05] <solitood> just neer on a win8 box
[19:05] <intrader> bekks, imghost , on fresh terminal I issued `sudo service mysql status` and I get 'mysql stop/waiting'; also `ps aux |grep sql` shows it running
[19:05] <molqr> installed ubuntu on a windows 8 box with uefi .... however grub did not figure out the presence of windows on the system ... strangely though i m able to go to either ubuntu to windows using the F12 firmware boot options menu. do i need grub at all then?
[19:06] <solitood> ugh thats the problem i dont want to have -- installing it and then haaving no bootloader