[07:02] <hendrickvp> cp: cannot stat '/root/my.cf' : no such file or dir
[07:02] <arrenlex> tonyyarusso: I have no idea, sorry. = / I don't even run apache anymore.
[07:02] <un_operateur1> arrenlex, was it this page you were quoting from earlier?? http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_SUDO_SU_-_in_X11
[07:02] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: Uh oh
[07:02] <kitche> hendrickvp: sudo -i probably puts you in /root
[07:02] <arrenlex> tonyyarusso: beyond reinstalling all the apache packages, there's no more advice I can offer you. Sorry. = /
[07:02] <un_operateur1> sorry hendrickvp  -- cp -vi /home/<user>/my.cf /etc/mysql/my.cf
[07:03] <arrenlex> un_operateur1: Yes.
[07:03] <un_operateur1> where <user> is probably bryan in your case
[07:03] <Flannel> tonyyarusso: you might try asking in #apache, theyve gotten the job done for me in the past
[07:03] <hendrickvp> same error
[07:03] <hendrickvp> this is weird
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: I already asked.  No response yet.
[07:03] <MSTK> flannel & others - thanks for the help.  but when I enter "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh" into the terminal as the instructions say, the terminal responds "command not found".
[07:04] <MSTK> i'm guessing that entering a path =/= a command
[07:04] <un_operateur1> arrenlex, errm -- "sudo su -" is redundant in the case of gentoo because they can just use su - .. but su - has no effect in ubuntu and thats why we need a sudo
[07:04] <Flannel> MSTK: no, that's a command, with the full path.  I don't know what to tell you, I've never installed DVD stuff
[07:04] <ashley_> hey
[07:04] <gaurav19> un_operateur1, in windows env: I see 18.5 Gb total and 18.4 GB free - i don't see athing there, it can not be that windows is unable to see anything
[07:05] <spikeb> MSTK: the path is wrong for 6.10. it's /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-ss.sh
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> Flannel: Any other tricks to get useful output?
[07:05] <arrenlex> MSTK: Put "sh" between sudo and the path. That's the location to a shell script.
[07:05] <ashley_> does anyone know why the sound in ubuntu isn't as loud as it is in windows, and how to change it?
[07:05] <MSTK> spikeb & arrenlx - thanks, I'll try that
[07:05] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, dont count on windows telling you the size of a unix partition .. windows cannot read unix partitions
[07:05] <MSTK> ashley_ I'm guessing you already tried turning up your speakesr?
[07:05] <ashley_> yup
[07:06] <kitche> ashley_: either with sudo alsamixer or by the volume controls in your window manager
[07:06] <TGPO> ashley_: have you turned up the volume using the volume control?
[07:06] <ashley_> yes I have TGPO
[07:06] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, I'm guessing ubuntu has installed fine and all you need to do now is on this page here -- http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html
[07:06] <Flannel> un_operateur1: please give wiki pages (!grub) instead of random other sites, when possible.
[07:06] <radar1976> http://pastebin.ca/281992
[07:06] <gaurav19> un_operateur1, I suspected that, but was too confused, so I asked you. What do I do next, put ubuntu entry into boot.ini ? i guess i need the entry details
[07:06] <ashley_> Its at full blast but its not as loud as it is in windows
[07:06] <eviltwin> hi
[07:07] <Flannel> gaurav19: you'll probably want to install grub (it can boot to windows and linux)
[07:07] <un_operateur1> Flannel, it's no random other page -- it's one i count on :)
[07:07] <Flannel> !grub | gaurav19, first link gives you methods, and options
[07:07] <ubotu> gaurav19, first link gives you methods, and options: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:07] <eviltwin> I'm just setting up a 32 bit chroot on my x64 system and I was wondering where the gnome themes are kept on my x64 installation so that I can link them to the corresponding folder on my chroot so that the gnome apps look nice
[07:07] <eviltwin> qt info is also welcome, since I have skype installed in the chroot
[07:08] <MSTK> Sorry, guys.  I've tried "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-ss.sh", "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-ss.sh", and "sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-ss.sh".
[07:08] <MSTK> It says "command not found" for the first one (sudo [path] ) and "can't open [path] " for the other two (sudo sh [path] )
[07:08] <croxis> i'm trying to use grub4dos on a floppy to install the server edition of ubuntu from a hard drive (short story: booting from cd doesn't work so I copied the cd to harddisk on a different computer).  grub4dos isn't loading the partition.  any help will be most appricated
[07:08] <MarcN> MSTK: is the file there?
[07:08] <gaurav19> thanks un_operateur, Flannel and ubotu..i will try out these
[07:08] <Flannel> MSTK: try cd /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/ (no need for sudo) then 'ls' to see what files *are* there
[07:09] <arrenlex> MSTK: I told you, put "sh" between sudo and the path.
[07:09] <MSTK> arrenlex - I did.  And it says "can't open [path] "
[07:09] <arrenlex> MSTK: I don't see any sh in any of those three commands.
[07:09] <MarcN> MSTK: it is install-css.sh (you have a typo)
[07:10] <MSTK> ah.  I copied & pasted wrong.  I ended up pasting the same thing three times
[07:10] <MSTK> but yes, I did indeed put sh between sudo and the command
[07:10] <Flannel> MSTK: when in doubt, tab complete ;)
[07:13] <kd7swh> lag...
[07:13] <Kwipper> Hello. I am a windows user and I want to try booting the live CD of ubuntu on my 2GB flash drive.
[07:13] <Kwipper> I copied the ISO files directly to the flash drive, and I can't get it to boot from my flash drive. It says "Boot Error"
[07:13] <Kwipper> What do I need to do?
[07:13] <eviltwin> welcome back, all >_>
[07:14] <vanberge> whoa
[07:14] <ashley_> lol
[07:14] <MSTK> that's odd.
[07:14] <MSTK> glitch in the matrix?
[07:14] <arrenlex> michael20la: ls | grep -v <filename> | xargs chmod 777
[07:14] <spikeb> yikes
[07:14] <un_operateur1> stoopid kids
[07:14] <jughead> mass exodus
[07:14] <MarcN> michael20la: you can put something together with find . -iname '*.c' -printf "chmod 777 %p\n" |  grep -v onefile.c | sh    or such (didn't try it)
[07:14] <michael20la> wow
[07:14] <arrenlex> ...oh, he's gone. xD
[07:14] <eviltwin> netsplit :P
[07:14] <eviltwin> ahhh
[07:14] <MSTK> yay!  DVD playback gone!  one less thing I have to switch over to Windows to do.
[07:14] <Kwipper> Hello.  I copied the ISO files directly to the flash drive, and I can't get it to boot from my flash drive. It says "Boot Error" What do I need to do?
[07:14] <radar1976> grrr I can't get past this error
[07:14] <radar1976> http://pastebin.ca/281992
[07:14] <MSTK> Kwipper - you either have to burn the CD or mount it to a virtual drive
[07:14] <arrenlex> michael20la: Oh, maybe not. I tried mine. Go to your directory, and use "ls | grep -v <filename> | xargs chmod <hex>"
[07:14] <radar1976> someone help?
[07:15] <MSTK> via daemon or alcohol or something
[07:15] <Flannel> Kwipper: believe you need to extract the files in the ISO to the drive, not copy the iso itself
[07:15] <Kwipper> okay
[07:15] <arrenlex> Kwipper: You can't do it like that. It's a lot more difficult to set up a bootable USB stick than it is a CD.
[07:15] <Kwipper> I did that
[07:15] <Flannel> !install | Kwipper
[07:15] <ubotu> Kwipper: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:15] <Flannel> Kwipper: first link there should have a howto for USB booting
[07:15] <Kwipper> I extracted the ISO files and copied them to the HD
[07:15] <Kwipper> err
[07:15] <MSTK> I'd personally just burn the CD so it can be used as a tool for proselytizing.
[07:16] <Kwipper> I don't have any blank cd's
[07:16] <Kwipper> All I got is a USB drive
[07:16] <_james> what's the latest version of ubuntu?
[07:16] <radar1976> !version
[07:16] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[07:16] <MSTK> Edgy Eft, 6.10
[07:16] <spikeb> _james: 6.10
[07:16] <_james> oh.. im on version 5.10 how to upgrade to 6.10?
[07:16] <michael20la> arrenlex: thx it worke
[07:16] <arrenlex> !upgrade | _james
[07:16] <ubotu> _james: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[07:16] <spikeb> radar1976: download a courier-authdaemon package and install it, then try what you're doing
[07:17] <radar1976> I still have 830 packages to install... How to I get past this error
[07:17] <radar1976> I have the deb package
[07:17] <spikeb> use dpkg to install it heh
[07:17] <Kwipper> Wait a minute
[07:17] <Kwipper> You want me to use a virtual drivE?
[07:17] <MSTK> Oh, I just realized something.  Does mounting the installation iso file to a virtual drive via Daemon (etc.) work for a Live CD boot?
[07:17] <MSTK> I thought so at first
[07:17] <Kwipper> How do I get the virtual drive to boot in DOS?
[07:17] <MSTK> but then I realized that virtual drives aren't on
[07:17] <MSTK> when you reboot
[07:17] <MSTK> so I'm not sure.
[07:18] <MSTK> Anyone know how I can get the USB driver for my Yamaha Keyboard to work on Linux?  The distributor never included a linux version
[07:18] <Oni-Dracula> does alsa scale down audio quality under certain circumstances?
[07:19] <Flannel> _james: make sure you upgrade through dapper (5.10 to 6.06 then to 6.10), you can't go from 5.10 straight to 6.10
[07:22] <MSTK> can anyone help me?  I have a keyboard that requires a USB driver, but the distributor only included a windows version.  Is there a workaround?
[07:22] <arrenlex> MSTK: If your question is "how do I use a Windows driver with Linux", you don't.
[07:22] <arrenlex> MSTK: If your question is "is there a Linux driver available for this thing", google is your best bet.
[07:23] <vanberge> MSTK, normally you would just have to change something in your pc's bios.  like 'enable usb keyboard support'
[07:23] <vanberge> shouldnt need a driver for a keyboard
[07:23] <MSTK> I needed it for Windows
[07:23] <vanberge> MSTK, does your keyboard light up?
[07:23] <arrenlex> vanberge: He said earlier it's a Yamaha keyboard, i.e. music. Not typing.
[07:23] <vanberge> eh... sorry
[07:23] <MSTK> oh, sorry
[07:23] <MSTK> didn't make that clear second time
[07:23] <mm2000> how can i make .mov work in mplayer?
[07:24] <MSTK> I keep on forgetting the ambiguity between a music keyboard and a typing keyboard.
[07:24] <arrenlex> !w32codecs | mm2000
[07:24] <ubotu> mm2000: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:24] <_james> hello help pls. how to mount to my windows drive?
[07:24] <arrenlex> mm2000: Uh... more to the point, you have to install the w32codecs package.
[07:24] <arrenlex> _james: Mount read-only, or mount read-write?
[07:24] <mm2000> arrenlex: ok, with apt-get?
[07:24] <arrenlex> _james: read-only is easier.
[07:25] <arrenlex> mm2000: You'll need to enable the seveas repository.
[07:25] <arrenlex> !seveas
[07:25] <spikeb> there's almost no need for w32codecs nowadays
[07:25] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:25] <spikeb> real soon it can be done away with.
[07:25] <arrenlex> spikeb: Why so?
[07:25] <spikeb> arrenlex: free software implementations of said codecs
[07:25] <_james> i remember before there's this command fstab sumthing..
[07:25] <arrenlex> spikeb: For what codecs?
[07:25] <clayg> spikeb, really? awsome i am in need of them, give me some examples
[07:25] <arrenlex> _james: Mount read-only, or mount read-write?
[07:26] <spikeb> arrenlex: almost all of them - ffmpeg even has wmv9 support nowadays
[07:26] <clayg> I thought for sure there was a huge need for them and they are a major PITA for linux users, specially while trying to view pages with wmv content
[07:26] <clayg> but looks like you got it covered, tell me the packages i need to install for them
[07:26] <spikeb> clayg: it's still needed in the current release of ubuntu, but as i said - soon :)
[07:26] <MSTK> So there are no ways to use windows drivers on a linux?  Say like, a driver version of Wine?
[07:26] <clayg> ffmpeg? will it integrate in FF so i can view porn from 89.com? the free movies?
[07:27] <spikeb> clayg: the version of ffmpeg that ubuntu has doesn't do wmv9 iu dont think, so you're out of luck for now
[07:27] <_james> How to unzip "bzip2" format and "gzip"?
[07:27] <clayg> oh i guess i figured "almost no use for w32 codecs these days" meant something diff
[07:27] <clayg> i didnt take it to mean "no other alternative"
[07:28] <sosdiode> hi
[07:28] <sosdiode> how are we
[07:28] <spikeb> clayg: what i meant was that verys oon there won't be any use :)
[07:28] <spikeb> clayg: that's all
[07:28] <sosdiode> www.myspace.com/twithmilk
[07:28] <sosdiode> !list
[07:28] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot.  O_O
[07:29] <radar1976> ok  I don't want courier server
[07:29] <spikeb> clayg: if you install w32codecs that should take care of it
[07:29] <clayg> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[07:29] <clayg> ?
[07:29] <clayg> are there some specifics?
[07:29] <clayg> and is there a winrar type version
[07:29] <spikeb> that should be enough
[07:29] <anorexicpillow> is edgy really that unreliable?
[07:30] <clayg> i need something for some rars
[07:30] <spikeb> and rar is in multiverse
[07:30] <arrenlex> clayg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5
[07:30] <epagoge> clayg: if you want to find out if there's w32codecs, just type "apt-cache search <the thing you wanna find in the package listings>"
[07:30] <radar1976> How to I get rid of this stupid upgrade issue
[07:30] <spikeb> clayg: install unrar and rar
[07:30] <clayg> anorexicpillow, i dunno, tried it a month or so ago, very slow
[07:30] <clayg> on a core 2 duo
[07:30] <anorexicpillow> wow really? all ive read is how much faster it is
[07:30] <elljay> does ubuntu install on an imac?
[07:30] <TGPO> clayg are you running 32 bit or 64?
[07:30] <anorexicpillow> yah that could be
[07:30] <_james> arrenlex: what's the difference between read-only and read-write?
[07:30] <anorexicpillow> i believe so elljay
[07:31] <arrenlex> _james: You don't understand what the difference between read-only and read-write is? o_O
[07:31] <spikeb> elljay: it should
[07:31] <arrenlex> _james: In one case, you cannot write to the partition.
[07:31] <arrenlex> Is this not obvious?
[07:31] <epagoge> arrenlex: maybe he wants to understand at what level the read-onlyness happens? :)
[07:31] <amicrawle> what is the file i can preview in konqoro   my video files and music ?
[07:32] <epagoge> it would be neat if hard drives had a write-protect tabs
[07:32] <arrenlex> _james: Write on Linux is still "experimental" and harder to set up... it might (but probably won't) corrupt your filesystem. Read-only is super easy to set up (you don't even have to install anything) and is perfectly safe.
[07:32] <amicrawle> it use to index the video and show pic of what they were
[07:32] <un_operateur1> !ntfs3g
[07:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <un_operateur1> hmm
[07:33] <arrenlex> !ntfs-3g | _james, un_operateur1
[07:33] <ubotu> _james, un_operateur1: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:33] <lufis> Is there anywhere i can get the new version of vlc pre-compiled?
[07:33] <epagoge> does ubuntu have an installer that can do what debootstrap does, but that setse up the install properly? :)
[07:33] <HyperHacker> so...
[07:33] <anorexicpillow> I have a question... I want to post a video to youtube which will just be a few mp3s and a picture slideshow. It was really easy on XP but I cant get it to work on Ubuntu.. any ideas?
[07:33] <HyperHacker> I put that TV card and a different network card back in
[07:33] <arrenlex> anorexicpillow: Can't get what to work, exactly?
[07:33] <ajax4> Hey guys...I just installed Edgy and the screen is totally blank when it starts up and shuts down. Anyone know how to fix this?
[07:33] <HyperHacker> hangs again at "Loading hardware drivers"
[07:33] <epagoge> ajax4: try booting into text-mode
[07:34] <Otsuko> hello all
[07:34] <HyperHacker> apparently it won't start with _any_ network card
[07:34] <amicrawle> i use kde guys
[07:34] <anorexicpillow> well ive tried kino and that didnt seem to accept the mp3s
[07:34] <epagoge> ajax4: i think there's a kernel paramter for that...
[07:34] <HyperHacker> also, serial mice don't work
[07:34] <arrenlex> anorexicpillow: Ah! Making the movie. Yeah, that's going to be a problem.
[07:34] <amicrawle> not with main actor
[07:34] <Otsuko> Um... I had a question about dual booting...
[07:34] <ajax4> epagoge: It eventually starts up normally...any idea what config files to change?
[07:35] <anorexicpillow> lol so... a problem that isnt possible to fix
[07:35] <arrenlex> anorexicpillow: firstly, linux has a lot of trouble with mp3 and proprietary codecs in general.
[07:35] <Kwipper> So... there is absolutly NO way of getting Ubuntu Live to boot off of a USB drive?
[07:35] <epagoge> ajax4: well, kernel paramters are stored in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:35] <epagoge> ajax4: because grub is the program that loads the kernel
[07:35] <arrenlex> anorexicpillow: I'm not familiar with kino, but if it can theoretically be used for what you're trying to use it for, try feeding it oggs or even wavs.
[07:35] <Otsuko> It has to deal with with OS default setting
[07:35] <ajax4> epagoge: Okay, any idea what to look for?
[07:35] <Otsuko> setdefault to be exact in grub
[07:35] <arrenlex> anorexicpillow: If kino fails, cinelerra is a professional-standard (read: extremely powerful but insanely hard to use) movie editor for Linux which you can try.
[07:35] <anorexicpillow> okay ill try different formats of audio :)
[07:35] <epagoge> ajax4: i did a quick google and i didn't find anything..
[07:36] <anorexicpillow> okay is that available on synaptic?
[07:36] <arrenlex> !cinelerra | anorexicpillow
[07:36] <epagoge> ajax4: basically, i think the problem is that the kernel is going into framebuffer mode when it starts (which manes instead of using text-mode, it initializes a high-res graphics screen and draws onto it with its own fonts)
[07:36] <ubotu> anorexicpillow: cinelerra is a video editor and compositor. Install instructions can be found on http://cvs.cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#ubuntu
[07:36] <anorexicpillow> thanks
[07:36] <arrenlex> anorexicpillow: "install instructions" means no. xD
[07:36] <anorexicpillow> hah so i figured :P
[07:36] <epagoge> ajax4: and i'm assuming that the reason your screen is blank is that the graphics-mode isn't setup right for your monitor
[07:37] <epagoge> ajax4: (because framebuffer isn't that smart about monitors)
[07:37] <anorexicpillow> thanks for you help ill go try and make this work
[07:37] <pbelau> hey, does anyone know where the "new login" menu went in ubuntu 6.06 ?
[07:37] <ajax4> epagoge: Could it be fixed with a changed setting in the BIOS?
[07:37] <pbelau> i'd like to be able to graphically login as two users at once without starting gdm from the commandline
[07:37] <epagoge> ajax4: you could test if the problem is the graphics mode by hooking up a monitor that you know can handle high resolutions and high refresh rates
[07:38] <epagoge> ajax4: (unless you already have that kind of monitor ... )
[07:38] <pbelau> does anyone know ?
[07:38] <ajax4> epagoge: Hehe, sorry only one monitor to use.
[07:38] <epagoge> ajax4: is it that kind of monitor?
[07:38] <epagoge> ajax4: that could narrow down the problem
[07:39] <proqesi> how do I set my keymapping to dvorak before xdm runs?
[07:39] <ajax4> epagoge: It's a standard 21" CRT.
[07:39] <epagoge> hrmm
[07:39] <epagoge> so, explain what you see when it's booting
[07:40] <epagoge> it's like: 1) BIOS POST screen...
[07:40] <epagoge> then.. ?
[07:40] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: fixed
[07:40] <arrenlex> tonyyarusso: Hurrah! What did you do?
[07:40] <ajax4> epagoge: POST screen a few words, then completely back. No Ubuntu logo, progress bar, nothing. Then it waits a minute then GDM logo screen comes up.
[07:40] <ajax4> (completely black)
[07:40] <epagoge> ajax4: ok yeah, that's gotta be the framebuffer resolution
[07:40] <epagoge> oh, that's easy to change actually
[07:41] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: Well, a) fixed permissions on the digest password file, b) LOADED the digest module (*THWACK*), c) fixed a syntax error - v1.3 docs for v2.2 server is a no-no.
[07:42] <arrenlex> tonyyarusso: All those things mean very little or nothing to be, but I offer you my sincere congratulations :)
[07:42] <arrenlex> be -> me
[07:42] <ajax4> pbelau: Do you have an option under system tools called "New Login"?
[07:42] <ajax4> epagoge: Easy to change?
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: Thanks.  Now time for bed, after that minor panic.
[07:43] <epagoge> ajax4: haha.. hold on
[07:43] <epagoge> i'm just finding it
[07:43] <arrenlex> pbelau: I'm confused. Can you explain more thoroughly what exactly you are trying to do?
[07:43] <epagoge> google doesn't know where the kernel paramters are listed :\
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: (It's SSL & authentication stuff)
[07:43] <pbelau> i found it
[07:43] <arrenlex> tonyyarusso: Oh. I'd never messed with that.
[07:43] <pbelau> it moved from system tools -> new login to...
[07:43] <ajax4> pbelau: I think that should take care of what you want to do.
[07:43] <pbelau> system -> quit
[07:43] <pbelau> it's in system -> quit now
[07:44] <pbelau> which is a bit confusing
[07:44] <arrenlex> tonyyarusso: My own short-lived apache server consisted of "hello, me, here are the files you uploaded to this directory at home earlier. I hope they are useful to you. :) <dirlist>"
[07:44] <wastrel> pbelau:  sortof like start->shutdown
[07:44] <clayg> TGPO, i am not sure, i think i'm running 64 bit i just installed the smp kernel
[07:44] <wastrel> the things we do to make things "user friendly"...
[07:44] <tonyyarusso> arrenlex: hehe
[07:44] <clayg> TGPO, Also this is a core 2 duo, which should i run
[07:44] <pbelau> wastrel, it'd be even friendlier if it booted up immediately
[07:45] <pbelau> there's a bug in the LVM configuration for 6.06
[07:45] <TGPO> clayg: you dont remember which you installed?
[07:45] <proqesi> clayg: core2duo is 32bit (i386)
[07:45] <pbelau> causes the system to fail while mounting the root filesystem
[07:46] <arrenlex> clayg: smp != 64-bit. You can have 32-bit with two cores, 64-bit with one core, and any combination thereof. They are unrelated. smp = multi-core processor.
[07:46] <vanberge> whats the package required for basic compiling, etc... base utils or something right?
[07:46] <Capslock118> i got cedega to work
[07:46] <arrenlex> !build-essential | vanberge
[07:46] <ubotu> vanberge: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:46] <Capslock118> and WoW works flawlessly
[07:46] <arrenlex> vanberge: build-essential
[07:46] <Capslock118> WoW works flawlessy, and better than in windows for some reason'\
[07:46] <arrenlex> (stupid ubotu)
[07:46] <vanberge> arrenlex, ty.  :-)
[07:46] <Oni-Dracula> Capslock118, I noticed that too :)
[07:46] <vanberge> !stupid | ubotu
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stupid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:47] <arrenlex> Capslock118: The rule for Linux is that something either works better than in Windows or does not work at all. :)
[07:47] <Oni-Dracula> Capslock118, it's probably because linux is better at handling memory than windows
[07:47] <arrenlex> vanberge: I was mad at him for his useless factoid which didn't mention the package name. xD
[07:47] <Capslock118> arrenlex: ive noticed that too
[07:47] <Capslock118> Oni-Dracula: thats goot o hear cause i have 1 gb of it
[07:47] <wastrel> WoW eh
[07:47] <wastrel> i used to play that
[07:47] <malt1> Hello, i have a ubuntu server running apache2 and php and mysql, and i installed sendmail and in php.ini i put in my sendmail path, and i have a php nuke site that is email confirm, and my server is not sending the emails, what could be wrong my sendmail is default install to i used sudo apt-get install sendmail
[07:48] <vanberge> lol... arrenlex too funny
[07:48] <clayg> arrenlex, proqesi ,i thought core duo was 32 bit and core 2 duo was 64bit, or AMT64
[07:48] <clayg> ?
[07:48] <epagoge> ajax4: ok, found it!
[07:48] <clayg> yeah http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_2_duo
[07:48] <arrenlex> clayg: Oh, you are correct. Instruction Set: EM64T
[07:49] <arrenlex> clayg: Yes, that's where I came from.
[07:49] <epagoge> ajax4: add this as a kernel boot parameter: "video=800x600-16@60"
[07:49] <clayg> ok, so for this is the smp kernel the best
[07:49] <epagoge> ajax4: that's 800x600 mode, 16-bit colour, 60hz refresh rate
[07:49] <clayg> or is there like a special , dual core, 64 bit kernel
[07:49] <arrenlex> clayg: smp and 64-bit.
[07:49] <clayg> point is i dont feel like im running at 2.0ghz X 2
[07:49] <damageDOn1> Can someone help me with a problem with my mic in edgy?
[07:49] <arrenlex> clayg: -generic should take care of it all unless I miss my guess.
[07:49] <radar1976> I'm looking for the package download site...
[07:49] <ajax4> epagoge: Okay, I'll try that right now and be right back.
[07:50] <radar1976> mn
[07:50] <radar1976> err nm
[07:50] <epagoge> radar1976: google "ubuntu mirrors"
[07:50] <clayg> does this mean when im not using apps/kernel that supports dual core/64bit that im only running at 2ghz!?
[07:50] <arrenlex> clayg: Please pastebin the contents of /proc/cpuinfo
[07:50] <clayg> surely not i hope
[07:50] <clayg> ok
[07:50] <clayg> gimme a second
[07:51] <arrenlex> clayg: also, what is the output of "uname -m"?
[07:51] <clayg> http://pastebin.ca/282033
[07:51] <clayg> is the cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:51] <clayg> lemme peep the other
[07:51] <damageDOn1> Does anyone know why mics might not be working with Edgy?
[07:51] <arrenlex> clayg: cpu MHz    : 997.867
[07:51] <clayg> uname -m or -a?
[07:51] <arrenlex> clayg: You're right, that sure doesn't sound like 2GHZ.
[07:51] <clayg> that sucks man
[07:51] <proqesi> clayg: laptop or deskop?
[07:51] <arrenlex> clayg: Either will work. -a will be more useful.
[07:51] <clayg> clay@youngman:~$ uname -a
[07:51] <clayg> Linux youngman 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Dec 8 17:51:56 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:51] <clayg> clay@youngman:~$
[07:52] <clayg> laptop, dv6000t , "top of the line"
[07:52] <arrenlex> clayg: There you go. You're running a -386 kernel.
[07:52] <arrenlex> clayg: Install linux-image-generic for the -generic kernel.
[07:52] <clayg> ok, can i just apt-get a new one, or do i need to like down load the 64bit distro?
[07:52] <arrenlex> clayg: And reboot into it.
[07:52] <clayg> is the generic better you think ?
[07:52] <iami89> who there know about method to install NVIDIA driver in UBUNTU( for geforce 4 mx 440 agp4x 128mb)
[07:52] <arrenlex> clayg: Than 386? Of course. 386es are pre-pentium-I machines.
[07:53] <TGPO> clayg: avoid the 64bit distro like the plague
[07:53] <proqesi> clayg: when you're not plugged in the processor will scale down too
[07:53] <clayg> hey one thing . there is a way to see a graph , similar to the windows type when you hit ctrl alt delete?
[07:53] <clayg> but i cant rememebr how to get into it
[07:53] <clayg> wait actually i installed the smp kernel
[07:53] <clayg> havent rebooted
[07:54] <arrenlex> clayg: On modern cpus, you will not notice a difference between 32-bit and 64-bit under normal desktop use. It only comes out when you have special requirements, like >4GB RAM, or in heavy calculations.
[07:54] <clayg> lemme reboot and see how that does
[07:54] <arrenlex> clayg: I advise you to stick with 32-bit. A lot less headaches.
[07:54] <clayg> ill be right back
[07:54] <proqesi> or in games
[07:54] <clayg> if i stick to 32 bit does that mean im going to run at 2 ghz?
[07:54] <arrenlex> !nvidia | iami89
[07:54] <ubotu> iami89: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:54] <HyperHacker> games = heavy calculations ;-)
[07:54] <proqesi> or 3d or video editing
[07:54] <clayg> it almost seems like 99 percent of the time someone would be better of with a p4 3.0ghz
[07:54] <arrenlex> clayg: 32-bit\64-bit will not affect your processor speed.
[07:54] <clayg> then this expensive cpu that doesn't even run at speeds computers would do 5 years ago
[07:55] <clayg> 5-6 years ago i built a 2.4ghz desktop.  I am going to be mad if i find out my new "kick as$" notebook can't keep up with it
[07:55] <arrenlex> clayg: hertz are not a good computing speed benchmark. They do not transfer across different architectures.
[07:55] <iami89> i tried but after install my system crash
[07:55] <clayg> brb
[07:55] <clayg> lesse how i fair
[07:55] <damageDOn1> I have a headset/mic that works in Windows but doesn't work in Edgy or Dapper. I can get sound out through it but I can't record.
[07:55] <arrenlex> fare
[07:55] <clayg> is thre a benchmark app?
[07:55] <clayg> i want to try it now
[07:56] <clayg> then after the reboot/new kernel
[07:56] <clayg> then ill goto the generic and get a good comparison
[07:56] <arrenlex> clayg: Uh... linpack is the only one I know of because it's used to measure supercomputers.
[07:56] <arrenlex> clayg: I don't know if it even works on regular machines.
[07:56] <clayg> ouch ok
[07:56] <clayg> brb
[07:57] <Shadowpillar> I think I have a new piece of hardware
[07:57] <ajax4> epagoge: I'm supposed to add that line to /boot/grub/menu.lst on the "kernel" line right?
[07:57] <Shadowpillar> it's a gigaware usb webcam (radioshack)
[07:57] <arrenlex> clayg: In any case, benchmarks will typically only measure one aspect of your computer. When you use your machine, you use a variety of things. A fast processor with a tiny amount of ram will be horribly slow, for example. Your computer's perceived "speed" depends on clock speed, bus width, ram, hard disk RPM, network latency... all sorts of things.
[07:57] <Shadowpillar> Bus 001 Device 009: ID 093a:260e Pixart Imaging, Inc.
[07:58] <cameraguy> Is there any photo recovery software for Linux?
[07:58] <malt1> I installed sendmail and for my path i put /usr/sbin/sendmail -t -i and i restarted apache, and i sitll can't get it to send me a email on phpbb forums for email confirm, what could i be doing wrong?
[07:59] <arrenlex> cameraguy: Define recovery.
[07:59] <cameraguy> Cameras internal memory had photos, got deleted. Know they're still there.. but need to recover them Ala undeleted hard drive files.
[08:00] <damageDOn1> Can anyone tell me of a channel that I might be more likely to get help with getting a mic working?
[08:01] <Shadowpillar> can anyone here help me?
[08:01] <arrenlex> Shadowpillar: With what?
[08:01] <HyperHacker> so...
[08:01] <Shadowpillar> I'm trying to get dapper to detect a webcam
[08:01] <TGPO> Shadowpillar: you havent asked a question
[08:01] <HyperHacker> Ubuntu liveCD was hanging at "Loading hardware drivers"
[08:02] <arrenlex> Shadowpillar: Is the chipset supported?
[08:02] <HyperHacker> fixed it by removing a network card
[08:02] <Shadowpillar> arrenlex: should be
[08:02] <damageDOn1> I have a asked a question. Nobody is helping me either...
[08:02] <HyperHacker> tried it with another card, same thing, so removed that one too
[08:02] <Shadowpillar> unless it's a new chipset
[08:02] <arrenlex> Shadowpillar: Why should it be?
[08:02] <Shadowpillar> Bus 001 Device 009: ID 093a:260e Pixart Imaging, Inc.
[08:02] <arrenlex> Shadowpillar: I think your best bet is to google it.
[08:02] <HyperHacker> it booted up but couldn't see my serial mouse so I turned it off
[08:02] <HyperHacker> made NO changes to hardware
[08:02] <HyperHacker> turned it back on
[08:02] <arrenlex> !webcam | Shadowpillar
[08:02] <ubotu> Shadowpillar: webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[08:02] <HyperHacker> guess where it's hanging? -_-
[08:02] <Shadowpillar> spca5xxx
[08:02] <arrenlex> ^ might help too
[08:03] <Shadowpillar> arrenlex: the only thing detected is the microphone
[08:03] <damageDOn1> !mic | damageDOn1
[08:03] <Shadowpillar> and it doesn't even work
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:03] <damageDOn1> Brilliant!
[08:04] <damageDOn1> !microphone | damageDOn1
[08:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about microphone - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <niall> my internet is very slow and I have no idea why. The other machines in the house are going much faster
[08:05] <damageDOn1> I have a brand new laptop running Edgy and the microphone doesn't work even though it works on Windows.
[08:05] <Shadowpillar> I think mine is a new chipset
[08:05] <Shadowpillar> :|
[08:06] <niall> is there somewhere in Ubuntu I can check my internet connection speed?
[08:06] <noiesmo> damageDOn1, open terminal and run alsamixer check microphone is turned on not mute as my by by default
[08:06] <revolutionstudio> anyone here could tell me why everytime i connect to gaim i have to re identify myself
[08:06] <proqesi> niall: there are lots of websites for that
[08:06] <niall> sure
[08:06] <TGPO> damageDOn1: your running Gnome desktop?
[08:07] <damageDOn1> noiesmo: I have done that through the GUI that does the same thing right?
[08:07] <niall> but does ubuntu need to be configured for the type of connection you have
[08:07] <niall> or is it automatic?
[08:07] <damageDOn1> TGPO: I'm running Gnome and Beryl
[08:08] <arrenlex> revolutionstudio: Because you've not saved your password in your account options.
[08:08] <proqesi> niall: automatic, but some programs might need to know
[08:08] <revolutionstudio> how do i do that?
[08:08] <malt1> I have linux server running apache2, php5, mysql, phpmyadmin, ftp, ssh, what else should i need to get my server sending out emails with phpBB and php nuke for email confirm when a user registers
[08:08] <niall> ahh i see well thank you
[08:09] <revolutionstudio> it is saved under my accounts in gaim...the password for all my accounts are saved there
[08:09] <niall> proqesi: thanks
[08:09] <revolutionstudio> and freenode is the only one that gives me any trouble
[08:10] <damageDOn1> TGPO: Hello?
[08:10] <jughead> revolutionstudio, are you using gaim for irc?
[08:11] <revolutionstudio> yeah...im running windows but no one in that channel would talk so i came here cause my other pc is kubuntu
[08:11] <revolutionstudio> i thought you all could help me
[08:11] <soresore> getting an internal prism2/3 usb wifi card working in ubuntu.. possible?
[08:11] <scribus> anyone managed installing 6.10 in parallels?
[08:12] <proqesi> revolutionstudio: try #gaim
[08:12] <jughead> revolutionstudio, it seems easy enough on the website; did you modify your account to include auto login and password?
[08:13] <wall86> anyone happen to know if Ubuntu 6.06, supports intels speedstep technology? or will it just run the cpu at max speed?
[08:13] <revolutionstudio> yeah...its all done right here in gaim...but idk why it makes me re identify everytime though you know
[08:14] <epagoge> ajax4: yes, you can put it on the kernel line.. you can even actually do that at boot-time in the grub menu -- grub lets you edit all those menu.lst parameters at boot
[08:14] <clayg> ok back
[08:14] <clayg> you guys still here
[08:14] <clayg> going into xchat was fast as fk
[08:14] <jughead> yeah I don't know... is gaim really all that good for irc?
[08:15] <jughead> I'm a xchat user myself
[08:15] <revolutionstudio> well i dont know...is there any other programs that will run yahoo aim and irc all in one?
[08:15] <arrenlex> wall86: apt-get install powersaved
[08:15] <epagoge> ajax4: you gotta watch out though -- ubuntu rewrites menu.lst whenever you install a new kernel -- so once you know what video= setting to use, put it in the "kopt=" setting higher up in the file
[08:15] <arrenlex> clayg: Still here.
[08:15] <proqesi> revolutionstudio: lots
[08:15] <epagoge> ajax4: then, when ubuntu rewrites menu.lst, the kernel paramters will include video= automatically! :)
[08:16] <arrenlex> clayg: And I meant to tell you before you left: In any case, benchmarks will typically only measure one aspect of your computer. When you use your machine, you use a variety of things. A fast processor with a tiny amount of ram will be horribly slow, for example. Your computer's perceived "speed" depends on clock speed, bus width, ram, hard disk RPM, network latency... all sorts of things.
[08:16] <clayg> http://pastebin.ca/282043
[08:16] <clayg> damn still only 2hgz
[08:16] <revolutionstudio> any suggestions?
[08:16] <clayg> how can i actually see it going 4 ghz
[08:16] <clayg> or at least 3, jeez
[08:16] <arrenlex> clayg: What do you mean, 4GHz? It's only a 2GHz processor.
[08:16] <clayg> in ech core right?
[08:16] <clayg> wait, i think i see
[08:16] <arrenlex> clayg: it doesn't work like that XD
[08:16] <damageDOn1> Thanks for nothing
[08:17] <jughead> revolutionstudio, for windows or kubuntu?  kopete does them all I think
[08:17] <arrenlex> clayg: You don't just multiply by the number of cores. It's not linear.
[08:17] <clayg> ouch
[08:17] <clayg> seems useless
[08:17] <proqesi> clayg: all OSes will show it as 2.. I have a core2duo myself and run OS X and XP
[08:17] <Ciobin> I've a PC with 2 hd: on 1 hd with Windows and another with Ubuntu. After installed Ubuntu, it ask me of reboot my pc. I've reboot it and I've change the sequence of boot on bios menu with hd Ubuntu in the first position. After I've boot the pc and this is what I see: 1- Logo mb, 2- Cursor Pulse on my monitor and dosn't load more nothing. Sorry for my english
[08:17] <arrenlex> clayg: You now have both cores recognised. Your computer will be as fast as it was intended to be. Core 2 duo, I am told, is pretty darn fast.
[08:17] <revolutionstudio> for windows really for this computer...the other one runs kubuntu and has everything in it already
[08:17] <clayg> 2ghz?
[08:17] <clayg> i mean it seems fast
[08:17] <arrenlex> clayg: As I said, ghz do not translate into speed.
[08:17] <proqesi> clayg: yes
[08:17] <clayg> i need a power hungry app
[08:17] <clayg> any suggestions?
[08:17] <scribus> proqesi: u running parallels?
[08:18] <clayg> i have 1 gig of ram and it's the 2ghz core 2 duo model
[08:18] <arrenlex> clayg: blender
[08:18] <Ciobin> How can I do to start my Ubuntu?
[08:18] <proqesi> scribus: no, I run ubuntu natively
[08:18] <jughead> Ciobin, did you install grub to the MBR?
[08:18] <revolutionstudio> ciobin did you not get a grub/
[08:18] <revolutionstudio> ?
[08:18] <clayg> also i installed a hp all in one, whatrs a good app to utilize the scanning, copying and other features?
[08:18] <scribus> proqesi: never tried it for ubuntu install under osx?
[08:18] <jughead> revolutionstudio, for windows I use Trillian Basic (it's free)
[08:18] <clayg> lemme install blender and check it out
[08:19] <proqesi> scribus: not with parallels
[08:19] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> how do i know whether hardware 3d acceleration is supported under Ubunut?
[08:19] <scribus> proqesi: ic
[08:19] <ajax4> epagoge: I wanted to verify that I was putting it in the right place...because it didn't work. The line you gave me was "video=800x600-16@60" right?
[08:19] <Ciobin> jughead: Yes I think
[08:19] <scribus> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: run glxgears
[08:19] <arrenlex> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: What's the output of "glxinfo | grep ender"?
[08:19] <arrenlex> scribus: That is not helpful.
[08:19] <scribus> ;)
[08:19] <scribus> woops
[08:19] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> arrenlex .ok
[08:19] <jughead> Ciobin, if you installed grub to the MBR then set BIOS to boot from the windows hard drive
[08:19] <clayg> hehe actualyl openoffice is kinda hungry also
[08:20] <clayg> lemme try that, so far everything is opening fast
[08:20] <clayg> but that is only xchat and terminal
[08:20] <clayg> those aren't that big
[08:20] <arrenlex> clayg: Somehow I think word processor < 3D animator =P
[08:20] <Ciobin> jughead: but in the hd where I've installed Ubuntu I suppose
[08:20] <clayg> open office usually had a second or so
[08:20] <clayg> arrenlex, agreed
[08:20] <clayg> but still
[08:20] <clayg> is blender animation?
[08:20] <arrenlex> clayg: Yes.
[08:20] <arrenlex> !blender
[08:20] <ubotu> blender is a free application for 3D modelling, animation, rendering, etc. You can install it from Ubuntu's repositories, and tutorials are at http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro
[08:20] <clayg> im downloading it now
[08:20] <clayg> just d/ling slow
[08:20] <Ciobin> jughead: Already done. The only thing that I see is the cursor pulse
[08:21] <clayg> Linux youngman 2.6.15-27-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Dec 8 18:00:07 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:21] <arrenlex> clayg: And? I told you, your computer is as fast as it was intended to be.
[08:21] <revolutionstudio> with trillian will i be able to connect to freenode with this name/
[08:21] <Ciobin> jughead: I've try to set before one and after other in the boot sequence
[08:21] <jughead> Ciobin, does the grub menu appear before the cursor pulse?
[08:22] <clayg> arrenlex, ok man got blender this looks like a program you use to create animations, i was looking for something that had something already made and would display or run to show me the speed
[08:22] <clayg> is there something in this im missing?
[08:22] <Ciobin> jughead: no nothing appear. Only the cursor pulse
[08:22] <arrenlex> clayg: Oh. xD
[08:22] <arrenlex> clayg: No. You asked for a heavy app.
[08:22] <scribus> anyone experience with boot errors like this:
[08:22] <scribus> "Unknown Interrupt or fault at EIP 00000060"
[08:22] <scribus> (..)
[08:22] <clayg> oh is there a lag when you run it?
[08:22] <arrenlex> clayg: No.
[08:22] <clayg> if so then im very happy
[08:22] <proqesi> clayg: create a mesh and click on the render option
[08:23] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> arrenlex , it reads
[08:23] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[08:23] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> direct rendering: Yes
[08:23] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 845G 20050225
[08:23] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> is that good
[08:23] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ?
[08:23] <arrenlex> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: Yes. You have 3D acceleration.
[08:23] <clayg> i dont use graphic/video design programs
[08:23] <clayg> is that hard to do
[08:23] <Zac1> !parted
[08:23] <ubotu> parted: The GNU Parted disk partition resizing program. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7.1-2.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 156 kB
[08:23] <jughead> Ciobin, you might need to fix grub, which I do not know about
[08:23] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> arrenlex ,yay !! thanks ... :) i just wanted to check whether that driver i installed worked or not ....
[08:23] <jughead> I think you can do it through the liveCD but I'm not sure
[08:24] <seanj> hi people
[08:24] <arrenlex> !hi
[08:24] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:24] <clayg> i hit render and it had a box with a grey 3 dimensional box in it
[08:24] <arrenlex> clayg: Congratulations, your first 3D rendering :)
[08:24] <scribus> clayg: press space -> add->mesh->monkey
[08:24] <Ciobin> jughead: Ok. I'll try to fix it. Tnks in advance
[08:24] <Zac1> @hamster
[08:24] <jughead> good luck Ciobin
[08:24] <Ciobin> :)
[08:24] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> that sounds like Blender :) thats a nice package :)
[08:25] <Ciobin> god save the queen
[08:26] <MistaED> hehe *is learning blender at this very moment as well*
[08:26] <clayg> ok well it works
[08:26] <clayg> i dont know what to compair it to, but it works
[08:26] <arrenlex> Blender's interface was designed by blind, retarded monkeys. But the package is amazing.
[08:26] <_james> How to auto mount on my windows whenever i reboot?
[08:26] <arrenlex> (as, by the way, was Gimp's. Name, too.)
[08:26] <clayg> wish i knew if it was working fast or not
[08:26] <spikeb> heh
[08:27] <spikeb> there is no good 3d modelling application interface
[08:27] <clayg> i need someting with numbers or some sort of base comparison, how long does it take to render the picture normally?
[08:27] <clayg> on avg i guess
[08:27] <un_operateur1> what could this mean when trying to apt-get install opera from opera's repo --- opera: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.2.1) which is a virtual package.
[08:27] <un_operateur1> ?
[08:27] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> clayg ,depedns on what rendering options u've set and ur graphics card ;)
[08:27] <arrenlex> spikeb: Maybe not, but there is "pretty good",  "useable", and "DAMN RETARDED MONKEYS!"
[08:27] <MistaED> coming from a maya perspective to blender, there are some really cool UI design choices in blender, it really reminds me of after effects 7
[08:28] <spikeb> arrenlex: no, only the last when it comes to every 3d model app i've used heh
[08:28] <un_operateur1> !libqt3c102-mt
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libqt3c102-mt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <MistaED> one issue is that i have no idea how to spawn off windows to the second monitor, any ideas?
[08:28] <arrenlex> spikeb: I've been told that Maya has a pretty good interface. Ever used that?
[08:28] <soresore> is there a front end for wlan tools?
[08:28] <soresore> coz i hates it :<
[08:28] <spikeb> arrenlex: yes. monkeys.
[08:28] <_james> How to auto mount on my windows drive whenever i reboot my ubuntu?
[08:28] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> clayg ,u got Bllendder from the repository? then what version of blender is it? i want to get it too...i have it on win none on lin ...
[08:28] <arrenlex> !package libqt3c102-mt
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about package libqt3c102-mt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <Shadowpillar> well linux has no idea what webcam I have
[08:29] <arrenlex> Oh. I guess not. Sorry.
[08:29] <Shadowpillar> or what chipset it is
[08:29] <Shadowpillar> anyone?
[08:29] <spikeb> blender is in the repos, yes
[08:29] <MistaED> arrenlex: maya sadly uses motif so it's clunky, but the interface is quite good as i'm used to it :P but sometimes there's just too many overlapping windows and you need two monitors at times
[08:29] <spikeb> i should install it
[08:29] <arrenlex> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: In edgy repos? 2.42a-1ubuntu1
[08:30] <Shadowpillar> only comes up as a usb audio device
[08:30] <gephal1> Hi,all. Does anyone know of an application that could extract text from the abominable microsoft .lit format?
[08:30] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> arrenlex ,oh k ... then i'll use the repo :) ... i needed the latest one... and i hardly ever use synaptic ...
[08:30] <scribus> clayg: u could benchmakr your system also with "john-the-ripper" ;) e.g.: john --test
[08:30] <gephal1> I've got some books I downloaded that I'd really like to read- but can't do that on my linux box at home.
[08:30] <wildchild> hello guys.. Is there any recovery mode, in case that my edgy can't get into x ?
[08:30] <arrenlex> gephal1: "strings" can extract text from anything... no formatting, of course.
[08:30] <arrenlex> (command line, gepha1)
[08:30] <gephal1> wildchild: Yeah- the terminal-
[08:31] <seanj> for my webcam i had to wait a few releases, then it was magically recognized
[08:31] <spikeb> heh
[08:31] <spikeb> seanj: been there
[08:31] <scribus> wildchild: use lynx!
[08:31] <scribus> :p
[08:31] <wildchild> gephal1: I have experiance, that I cpuldn't get in to x like now...
[08:31] <un_operateur1> !opera
[08:31] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[08:32] <tripppy> ive been told to modprobe a twinhan DVB-t card. but i dont know how.
[08:32] <[Relic] > what are my options for java?
[08:32] <gephal1> wildchild: umm...i couldnt make much sense of that- but i suppose what you're trying to say is that your X went bonkers, right? just  : $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:32] <HyperHacker> so I've noticed something interesting
[08:32] <arrenlex> !java | [Relic]
[08:32] <ubotu> [Relic] : To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:33] <MistaED> trippy: i have the exact card, try in a terminal: sudo modprobe dvb-bt8xx
[08:33] <HyperHacker> to get a serial mouse working in Ubuntu requires editing config files and rebooting, which is impossible on a liveCD
[08:33] <gephal1> it'll restore your configuration automatically- assuming that you've not made drastic changes in your hardware
[08:33] <HyperHacker> so you can't use a serial mouse with the liveCD
[08:33] <un_operateur1> !libqt3
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libqt3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <wildchild> gephal1: no after reboot. There wasn't any window to fill in my password... It just stoped..
[08:33] <seanj> no serial mouse? that's a bummer
[08:33] <MistaED> and programs like kaffeine will detect it and scan for channels, that's the best program for tv/dvb cards if you don't want a headache
[08:33] <arrenlex> !libqt3-mt | un_operateur1
[08:33] <ubotu> libqt3-mt: Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3. In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 3064 kB, installed size 8712 kB
[08:33] <HyperHacker> installing, for some silly reason, requires a mouse because the keyboard can't be used to navigate the interface
[08:33] <arrenlex> :)
[08:34] <Madpilot> HyperHacker, how old a computer do you have to have to actually still run a serial mouse?
[08:34] <HyperHacker> so Ubuntu is comlpetely unuseable to those with serial mice, or no mice at all.
[08:34] <gephal1> anything interesting in the screen dump during boot? like kernel panic?
[08:34] <HyperHacker> it's not that old really
[08:34] <dabaR> HyperHacker: use the alternate install cd
[08:34] <Madpilot> HyperHacker, the alternative install has a text-only mode
[08:34] <HyperHacker> I thought Linux was supposed to be good with older hardware anyway?
[08:35] <gephal1> I'd not know how to resolve that kinda thing either-  just try to see what the error is- during boot, if you're seeing the `ubuntu loading` window, try to switch to a tty1 (Ctrl+alt+1) and see if there are any messages you think is causing the problem
[08:35] <seanj> by default it's good with lots of old hardware...i guess just not with a distro aimed at newer machines
[08:35] <HyperHacker> I might try that text-only mode tomorrow when I'm not supposed to be asleep
[08:35] <gephal1> google for it- or come back here if you aren't able to find any help on places like ubuntuforums.org
[08:35] <dabaR> HyperHacker: that is the preferred CD by me.
[08:36] <wildchild> gephal1: all nice and right, if I could come again to x :) last time I had to reinstall :S
[08:36] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> btw...totem doesnt support mp3 s by default?
[08:36] <un_operateur1> nothing supports mp3s by default
[08:36] <seanj> if i ever have X problems i edit xorg.conf and change video driver to vesa
[08:36] <HyperHacker> the real problem here is people who can't use a mouse for whatever reason can't use the graphical install, and I'd imagine the rest of the interface has the same problem once it's installed
[08:36] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> hmm.... time to find the plugin ...
[08:36] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !mp3
[08:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:37] <wildchild> gephal1:that's why I am asking for some kind of safe mode or nongraphic mode If there is a way to choose (like in windows f4)
[08:37] <gephal1> wildchild: we've all been there- and I can tell you- having used Fedora Core (my first linux distro) i am not that eager for nostalgia- had to reinstall the damnd thing every 2 weeks.
[08:37] <wildchild> :S
[08:37] <wildchild> that sux
[08:37] <gephal1> wildchild: during OS boot, press scape.
[08:37] <wildchild> yes
[08:37] <gephal1> it'll take you to the GRUB menu- from there, choose safe mode
[08:38] <wildchild> k
[08:38] <wildchild> thx
[08:39] <herfer> ugh.
[08:39] <gaurav19> Hi un_operateur1, still no success
[08:39] <herfer> 6 hours and still cannot get ubuntu to work.
[08:39] <spikeb> sweet. my ubuntu worked out of the box.
[08:39] <herfer> (EE) No devices detected
[08:39] <herfer> Fatal server error:
[08:40] <herfer> no screens found
[08:40] <herfer> so that's that.
[08:40] <arrenlex> herfer: Wrong driver.
[08:40] <seanj> ugh
[08:40] <herfer> nope.
[08:40] <arrenlex> herfer: Or else unavailable options.
[08:40] <herfer> I even switched to the vga driver
[08:40] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, did you manage to get grub working?
[08:40] <herfer> just to go overkill and just get into X
[08:40] <herfer> but not even vga driver does it.
[08:40] <un_operateur1> !grub | gaurav19
[08:40] <ubotu> gaurav19: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:40] <un_operateur1> first link
[08:40] <arrenlex> herfer: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? Can you?
[08:40] <gaurav19> I am trying to do a dual boot on a machine running Windows XP . i donot want to touch the Xp installatin
[08:41] <seanj> trying the "vesa" driver might work
[08:41] <soresore> where exactly should i be able to see if my prism2 card is loading up? i've loaded the module
[08:41] <podr0znik> Good morning :)
[08:41] <herfer> it should use my _working_ xorg.conf from FreeBSD flawlessly.
[08:41] <arrenlex> !dual boot | gaurav19
[08:41] <herfer> I shouldn't even have to touch it.
[08:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual boot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:41] <herfer> xorg is xorg, regardless of platform.
[08:41] <arrenlex> !dualboot | gaurav19
[08:41] <ubotu> gaurav19: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[08:41] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> gaurav19 ,i dual boot already ... with XP and Ubuntu 6.10 and previously 6.06
[08:41] <spikeb> herfer: different major version though. the config format might be different.
[08:41] <un_operateur1> gaurav, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:41] <gephalt> herfer: lol- you must really hurt to hear spikeb say that
[08:41] <podr0znik> I'd like to ask a question on "beginners" level
[08:41] <seanj> piped to gaurav19 that's neat..
[08:42] <gaurav19> Thanks ubotu
[08:42] <podr0znik> Can I simply install (a Linux version of) Skype on Ubuntu?
[08:42] <spikeb> podr0znik: yes
[08:42] <arrenlex> herfer: Why don't you use the working xorg.conf you get by booting from a liveCD?
[08:42] <un_operateur1> stop talking to bots gaurav19 :p
[08:42] <un_operateur1> :)
[08:42] <podr0znik> thank you skikeb
[08:42] <arrenlex> !thanks | ubotu
[08:42] <ubotu> ubotu: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[08:42] <podr0znik> spikeb that is :)
[08:42] <arrenlex> xD
[08:42] <spikeb> podr0znik: you bet :)
[08:42] <seanj> lol..
[08:42] <arrenlex> Oops. I made it talk to itself.
[08:42] <seanj> haha
[08:42] <arrenlex> !thanks | gaurav19
[08:42] <ubotu> gaurav19: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[08:42] <arrenlex> That's better.
[08:43] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> gaurav19 ,u dont want to touch Win installation as in not even allow GRUB to sit on mbr?
[08:43] <herfer> arrenlex : uhmmm...uhmmm...because the liveCD won't work either ?
[08:43] <herfer> that's why.
[08:43] <gephalt> Yeah- flirting with the bot- thats smooth :P
[08:43] <herfer> I had to do a command line install
[08:43] <un_operateur1> !flirt | ubotu
[08:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flirt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:43] <arrenlex> !botabuse
[08:43] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[08:43] <un_operateur1> lol
[08:43] <herfer> firing up ubuntu just to play was going to be my "afternoon project"
[08:43] <vanberge> is there a 'supported' way to make a bit level copy of a hard disk?  for example i want to buy a new hard drive but don't want to re-install everything!
[08:43] <arrenlex> herfer: What card?
[08:43] <herfer> now 8 hours later I still have only CLI on it.
[08:43] <herfer> matrox p750
[08:43] <arrenlex> vanberge: man dd
[08:43] <herfer> for triple-head.
[08:43] <seanj> coudln't a person use dd for that
[08:43] <seanj> yeah. lol
[08:44] <herfer> id' be happy to just get one monitor working at this point.
[08:44] <spikeb> heh
[08:44] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !date u
[08:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about date u - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:44] <vanberge> arrenlex, i thought of that... but didn't know how recommended that woudl be
[08:44] <gaurav19> thanks GreyGhost. My situation is that I have windows XP installed already and two partitions 19Gb and 1 GB for ubuntu 6.06 - did you also install ubuntu over Windows Xp to get a dual boot. most tutorials i have seen require installation of ubuntu followed by windows
[08:44] <arrenlex> vanberge: Probably not recommended.
[08:44] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> hmm.... dumb thing ... gonna remian unmarried for the rest of its life...
[08:44] <gephalt> herfer: i've seen good documentation on that  kinda card
[08:44] <herfer> great.
[08:45] <gephalt> herfer: I am not sure- but can you check gentoo forums/docs-howtos?
[08:45] <seanj> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, that's okay... if they get married, they'll make more :P
[08:45] <herfer> i'm using driver=vga.  that's it.  dead end.
[08:45] <vanberge> arrenlex, yeah, i was afraid of that...  :-(
[08:45] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> gaurav19 , no ..i installed Ubuntu after XP....
[08:45] <herfer> there's no deeper troubleshooting basement to go to than driver=vga.
[08:45] <seanj> the video problem is unfortunately where windoze shines.. it can almost always tell you what chipset you have
[08:45] <nicholaspaul> Here's another Q: Can i install from the PPC live Edgy disc?
[08:45] <gephalt> herfer: i am saying this cause you may need to compile your own kernel.
[08:45] <herfer> so no ubuntu. The end.
[08:45] <Madpilot> nicholaspaul, yes
[08:45] <spikeb> why would you switch from freebsd anyway
[08:45] <arrenlex> herfer: I've had that happen when I tried using vga with a high bit depth...
[08:46] <herfer> spikeb: _exactly_
[08:46] <seanj> bab there's never a the-end with Gnu/Linux
[08:46] <tkroo> i'm getting "Unable to mount the selected volume" Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume on my floppy drive. how can i fix this?
[08:46] <revolutionstudio> ok who referred me to trillian
[08:46] <herfer> spikeb: unfortunately, there is no vmware support on freebsd.
[08:46] <emun> hi just wondering, is there an antivirus software for ubuntu
[08:46] <herfer> no modern vmware support, that is.
[08:46] <spikeb> herfer: ahhhhh
[08:46] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> gaurav19 ,but that meant that i had to overwrite mbr with GRUB so that XP was booted using grub and not ntldr
[08:46] <arrenlex> !clamav | emun
[08:46] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.88.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 65 kB, installed size 208 kB
[08:46] <nicholaspaul> Madpilot: sweet. should i run the thing as 'live' first, or should i install from the beginning?
[08:46] <arrenlex> !virus | emun
[08:46] <ubotu> emun: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[08:46] <tkroo> i am able to write to the floppy via /dev/fd0 however.
[08:46] <seanj> qemu might do the same thing vmware does, for free
[08:46] <Madpilot> nicholaspaul, with the Ubuntu LiveCDs, you run them, then install from inside the live session - there's an Install icon on the desktop
[08:46] <arrenlex> seanj: Some parts of vmware has recently been made free.
[08:46] <arrenlex> (Free as in beer)
[08:47] <gaurav19> GreyGhost, thats what I didn't try - I guess this kind of paranoia is justified for windows users :)
[08:47] <spikeb> herfer: one of my friends is a FreeBSD zealot :)
[08:47] <nicholaspaul> Madpilot: oh. That didnt work.. wonder why? It just 'spun' and then stopped...
[08:47] <emun> thanks guys
[08:47] <seanj> arrenlex, that's kind of helpful... i'd still recommend qemu over it though since it's 100% free as in freedom
[08:47] <herfer> believe me - I'd love to keep running fbsd as my desktop
[08:47] <seanj> i got qemu to work running windows 98
[08:47] <revolutionstudio> some one please tell me how to set up the connection to freenode in trillian
[08:47] <spikeb> herfer: but you absolutely require vmware eh
[08:47] <seanj> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39513 <- qemu how-to for breezy, etc
[08:48] <arrenlex> seanj: And also slower as in molasses.
[08:48] <gephalt> whats so good about freebsd anyway?
[08:48] <seanj> lol yes it is
[08:48] <faust_> Does anyone know what's up with the backspace key in 6.10?
[08:48] <dabaR> nicholaspaul: did you hold down the boot from cd key?
[08:48] <seanj> but reasonable for simple experimentation
[08:48] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> gaurav19 , i to am an XP user ... btw how do u plan to partition that 1GB for Ubuntu ....?? cos u'll need atleast 2 partitions...
[08:48] <faust_> Got it fixed to "back" again in firefox, but other apps still just want to do pageup.
[08:48] <nicholaspaul> dabaR: yea, i can boot into 'Live' but the install icon doesnt work. It just ... thinks about it... then does nothing.
[08:48] <dabaR> oh
[08:48] <nicholaspaul> dabaR: is there a command line option so i can see what happened?
[08:49] <seanj> doesn't Ubuntu require more than 1Gb for installation ?
[08:49] <un_operateur1> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, he already has ubuntu installed (i think)
[08:49] <wildchild> I can't finde pkg_config_path http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37510/ can someone tell me how to edit this "path"
[08:49] <dabaR> dependability...?
[08:49] <seanj> dabaR, yes. lol
[08:49] <arrenlex> wildchild: apt-get install jack
[08:49] <tkroo> ok, solved, found this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76517.html
[08:50] <nicholaspaul> ubiquity- is that 'Ubuntu Equity'?
[08:50] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> gaurav19 , previouly .... i had FC 5 .... for which a installed GRUB on a separtte partition (cos i was not very determined to allow another ap to overwrite my mbr...) but the 6.06 livecd of Ubuntu left me with no choice...
[08:50] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> un_operateur1 ,oh k .. that i didn know....
[08:50] <seanj> nicholaspaul, i love that!
[08:50] <dabaR> wildchild: why not post the whole output?
[08:50] <nicholaspaul> :D
[08:50] <dabaR> wildchild: and also the sources.list file, please.
[08:50] <wildchild> k
[08:50] <nicholaspaul> nite all.
[08:50] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> omg !!! why does blendeer run in out of the screen mode???
[08:50] <seanj> good night :)
[08:50] <dabaR> nicholaspaul: no, it means everywhereness
[08:51] <spikeb> lol
[08:51] <seanj> keep 'em comin' :)
[08:51] <spikeb> dabaR: you're off to a fine start
[08:51] <Em0ry42> Would anyone be able to help me get Wireless setup on my Dell Inspiron 9100?
[08:51] <tkroo> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, launch it with a -w (i think)
[08:51] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> it wont even allow me to resize it....
[08:51] <arrenlex> dabaR: Pretty soon you'll be making up new meanings for words that already exist...
[08:51] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> oh k
[08:52] <arrenlex> dabaR: And then who knows? You could be president!
[08:52] <emun> is there software similar to partition magic for ubuntu ie partition without losing your data like with fdisk
[08:52] <wildchild> dabaR: config: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37511/ sources: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37512/
[08:52] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> tkroo ,thanks thats better ... how do i default this now?
[08:52] <arrenlex> !gparted | emun
[08:52] <ubotu> emun: gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:52] <deconvolution> hi, My madwifi card cannot connect to the router, iwconfig show it has lots Rx invalid nwid, what does this mean?
[08:52] <dabaR> emun: it is called parted, and has a gparted or qtparted frontend
[08:53] <tkroo> gparted livecd is very nice
[08:53] <emun> great help thanks
[08:53] <arrenlex> wildchild: apt-get install jack
[08:53] <dabaR> wildchild: new version good?
[08:53] <wildchild> mm, nothig about unstable..
[08:53] <wildchild> just new version..
[08:53] <Okt> Hey guys, back with some more questions. I had Ubuntu working fine, I went to edit my xorg.conf to add support for my mouse, and it crashed. So I replaced it with the backup and now when I log in Gnome shows for a second and then dissapears.
[08:53] <Em0ry42> Broadcom 4306, just ignores me when I try to connect to WiFi, iwconfig says "Access Point: Invalid" what does this mean?
[08:53] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> clayg ,what time did the render take?
[08:54] <wildchild> arrenlex: read my paste about config..
[08:54] <dabaR> wildchild: what about that jack package arrenlex suggested?
[08:54] <wildchild> I allready have installed jack..
[08:54] <lemao> how to I find all files that do not start with . (dot). Basically all files that are not hidden?
[08:55] <dabaR> wildchild: libjack0.100.0-dev?
[08:55] <vanberge> Okt, you could re-run X config?  i dont knwo the exact command off the top of my head
[08:55] <arrenlex> lemao: find by default does not search hidden files. Thus find / "*" should do it.
[08:55] <gaurav19> GreyGhost, un_operateur: Here's the structure: disk 1: C(primary 20 GB) D (19 GB - logical ) E(1Gb - Logical) F(120 Gb -extended) I booted the system with the cd and then in ubuntu env, selected D (19 GB) for "/" and E(1 GB) for swap -- all went fine, no message and then the installation dialog vanished without a message - successful or error !!
[08:55] <arrenlex> find / -name "*"
[08:55] <arrenlex> ...oh. No, it does.
[08:55] <arrenlex> Ignore me
[08:55] <seanj> once upon a time it didn't. hehe
[08:56] <lemao> arrenlex: that would have been great...
[08:56] <seanj> brb
[08:56] <faust_> Does anyone know how to change backspace behaviour in gThumb? In browse mode it used to go one folder up, but now it just tries a pageup.
[08:56] <lemao> arrenlex: I tried something like 'find . -regex "[^.] .*" but it doesnt work
[08:56] <gaurav19> GreyGhost, un_operateur: as un_operateur told me before that Ubuntu is installed, I tried to modify the boot.ini as I didnt want to install grub at all, but now it seems that Grub is a mustfor 6.06 at least
[08:57] <dabaR> faust_: alt up should do one dir up
[08:57] <wildchild> dabaR: now jack isn't the problem but: glib >= 1.2.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH :
[08:57] <wildchild> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37513/
[08:57] <malt1> what is a simple mail server or something that wil just send out emails for like php nuke and phpbb for email confirm?
[08:57] <dabaR> wildchild: and you have build-essential?
[08:58] <faust_> dabaR: Yeah, but that still gives me an usability issue, since it's pretty far from alt to up on non-us keyboards.
[08:58] <wildchild> dabaR: yes, but  libqt3-dev isn't on my package list
[08:58] <gaurav19> GreyGhost, un_operateur1: How about 6.10 - does that require GRUB too?
[08:58] <wildchild> I did it by http://sp0rky-n00b.co.uk/djplay/1.html
[08:58] <arrenlex> lemao: Does this work? find -name "**[^.] "
[08:59] <dabaR> wildchild: I think that libc6 is what you want in order to fix the last error you gave
[08:59] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, they all need some bootloader -- grub is ubuntu's bootloader of choice
[08:59] <arrenlex> lemao: That also searches hidden folders, though. This is bad?
[08:59] <tkroo> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, maybe just make an alias to launch blender with -w ? if you want that default
[08:59] <lemao> yes
[08:59] <lemao> arrenlex: yes
[08:59] <jacquesmerde> if i install then uninstall a package with synaptic, it'll leave all its unneeded dependences installed yeah?
[08:59] <wildchild> dabaR: I allready have that one
[09:00] <lemao> arrenlex: I basically need to copy a tree of files from point A to point B without the subversion .svn folders
[09:00] <seanj> i'm sure there's a way to exclude dot-files with a regular expression with find.. i just forget which format
[09:00] <dabaR> wildchild: to teach you how to find which one is needed..... aptitude search <whateverIsMissing>|grep dev, so aptitude search glib| grep dev
[09:00] <lemao> arrenlex: So I can package the tree as a DEBIAN package.
[09:00] <lemao> arrenlex: but I cant figure out how...
[09:01] <dabaR> lemao: I like #bash for that kind of question.
[09:01] <arrenlex> lemao: find -name "**[^.] "  | grep -v "/\."
[09:01] <arrenlex> xD
[09:01] <seanj> awesome!
[09:01] <seanj> lol
[09:01] <tripppy> MistaED, do you use myth TV?
[09:01] <gaurav19> un_operateur1, yes thats fine, I though ubuntu might have done something to live with the windows bootloader - what are the chances of things going wrong with Windows XP in case I install grub ? I will have to use the windows XP installation disk to recover the installation
[09:02] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, let me find you a quick and easy bootloader to install within windows
[09:02] <arrenlex> lemao: Does that work? xD
[09:02] <lemao> arrenlex: great. thanks
[09:02] <arrenlex> lemao: Hehe.
[09:02] <Okt> I am now sitting at a "busy" cursor, how can I see what is going on?
[09:03] <scribus> ctrl+alt+f1 for teh win!
[09:03] <lemao> arrenlex: getting warmer... :-)
[09:03] <gaurav19> un_operateur1, I would be really grateful for that
[09:03] <wildchild> dabaR: when I do aptitude search glib| grep dev, there are more than one suggestions: on what I have to be focused...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37515/
[09:03] <arrenlex> lemao: More problems? xD
[09:04] <arrenlex> wildchild: libglib-dev should be what you want.
[09:04] <dabaR> wildchild: well, read the error, 1.2 or greater. request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, time-offset, routers,
[09:04] <lemao> arrenlex: I guess I can use the output of that command piped to the cpio, right?
[09:04] <dabaR> domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name,
[09:04] <dabaR> netbios-name-servers, netbios-scope;
[09:04] <MistaED> trippy: i'd like to, i'm not sure how to use it personally
[09:04] <dabaR> weird.
[09:04] <un_operateur1> gaurav19, here you go -- http://www.ranish.com/part/xosl.htm
[09:04] <arrenlex> lemao: what do you want to do to it?
[09:05] <lemao> arrenlex: I basically want to copy a tree of files from point A to point B excluding .svn folders
[09:06] <un_operateur1> do they have to be copied in order?
[09:06] <dabaR> wildchild: so libglib1.2-dev, or libglib2.0-dev I would try the first one.
[09:06] <arrenlex> lemao: How about something like that command | xargs -I "foo" cp -r foo folder2/
[09:07] <arrenlex> lemao: Warning: came off the top of my head. No guarantee that it won't screw everything up. o_o
[09:07] <un_operateur1> or   for i in `find /path/to/folder | egrep -vi "\.svn$"`; do cp $i b/; done
[09:07] <tripppy> MistaED, what do you use to watch/record Tv?
[09:07] <jerb_> magnetic tape?
[09:07] <scribus> lemao: what about tar ...blah --exlcude=PATTERN
[09:07] <arrenlex> lemao: I tried it on a very simple example. Seems to work.
[09:08] <wildchild> is this maybe couse I couldn't install libqt3-dev. Now I tryed again apt-get install and here are packages need to be installed: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37516/
[09:08] <MistaED> trippy: just kaffeine, it's a kde app but there's no gnome equal for recording/detecting tv channels painlessly
[09:08] <scribus> erm, exclude
[09:08] <dabaR> wildchild: install libqt3-mt-dev and libglib1.2-dev
[09:09] <dabaR> wildchild: then try to configure again
[09:09] <arrenlex> wildchild: apt-get install kdebase-dev is the better way to do that, because it gives you all the packages you need to compile a qt app.
[09:09] <wildchild> dabaR: I have those 2 :S
[09:09] <lemao> arrenlex: you mean create tar excluding .svn, untar it at B and remove tar?
[09:09] <arrenlex> lemao: I don't mean anything. That was scribus.
[09:09] <un_operateur1> I'd install   libqt3-mt and  libqt3-mt-dev
[09:09] <arrenlex> lemao: _I_ suggested using xargs
[09:10] <dabaR> wildchild: show me the configure output again, and output of aptitude search libqt3-mt-dev libglib1.2-dev
[09:10] <podr0znik> another question - I wanted to delete the Gaim packes 'cause I don't like Gaim (I use Kopete). But then it says that wants to remove ubuntu-desktop also.
[09:10] <podr0znik> What does that mean?
[09:10] <podr0znik> I hope not that I will be convicted to command line?
[09:10] <podr0znik> :)
[09:10] <dabaR> !ubuntu-desktop > podr0znik
[09:10] <arrenlex> podr0znik: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that can be safely removed.
[09:10] <arrenlex> !metapackage | podr0znik
[09:10] <ubotu> podr0znik: A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[09:11] <podr0znik> ah I see, ok, thanks again :)
[09:12] <wildchild> dabaR configure output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37519/ ; aptitude output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37520/
[09:12] <arrenlex> wildchild: Those pastes are the same.
[09:13] <dabaR> and neither show output of the commands I asked for.
[09:13] <wildchild> oh sorry
[09:14] <paranoid_android> hi there. im trying to execute a linux binary from a terminal. however, no matter what i do, i keep getting told No such file or directory. what can i do?? thank you :)
[09:14] <arrenlex> paranoid_android: chmod +x <file> && ./<file>
[09:14] <dabaR> paranoid_android: did you put ./ in front of binary file name when running it?
[09:14] <wildchild> dabaR: aptitude: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37521/
[09:14] <paranoid_android> yep, its already executable and i did the ./ bit
[09:14] <arrenlex> ...that is still the same thing. xD
[09:15] <zazza> would anyone help me with an ESS 18xxx ISA Soundcard not detected?
[09:15] <arrenlex> paranoid_android: Use tab completion to make sure you get the name right.
[09:15] <dabaR> wildchild: aptitude search libqt3-mt-dev libglib1.2-dev
[09:15] <lemao> arrenlex: This worked great:    find | grep -v '/[.] ' | cpio -p ~/test
[09:15] <paranoid_android> arrenlex: i do. the name is only 8 characters long as well, and its clearly visible what it is too. =\
[09:15] <un_operateur1> aptitude install libqt3-mt libqt3-mt-dev
[09:16] <arrenlex> lemao: What does cpio do? I've never seen that command before.
[09:16] <arrenlex> paranoid_android: What's the name of the file?
[09:16] <tsmithe> hello everyone
[09:16] <un_operateur1> !cpio
[09:16] <ubotu> cpio: GNU cpio -- a program to manage archives of files. In component main, is important. Version 2.6-17 (edgy), package size 94 kB, installed size 520 kB
[09:16] <paranoid_android> arrenlex: gmid2mod
[09:16] <x-r00t-x> hello . can i vnc to windows pc ?
[09:17] <un_operateur1> x-r00t-x, as long as windows pc runs a vnc server, sure
[09:17] <wildchild> dabaR: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37523/
[09:17] <tsmithe> does anyone here know how to set up mailman with postfix?
[09:17] <arrenlex> paranoid_android: Run this and pastebin all the output please: "file gmid2mod ; ls -l gmid2mod ; ./gmid2mod"
[09:17] <tripppy> MistaED, i just did a a probe that u suggested to me. i have the PCI one. 3020C.
[09:17] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur1,  can you tell me a good vnc server name for xp?
[09:17] <zazza> sorry guys... got an ISA soundcard not detected ESS 18xxx...
[09:17] <tripppy> MistaED, it didnt get found.
[09:17] <lemao> arrenlex: this is the first time I used it. it seems to be a very powerful recursive copy command that has one mode to copy file names passed into the standard input
[09:17] <un_operateur1> x-r00t-x, tightvnc
[09:18] <tsmithe> anyone?
[09:18] <x-r00t-x> tnx un_operateur1
[09:18] <un_operateur1> x-r00t-x, better - realvnc
[09:18] <paranoid_android> arrenlex: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37524/
[09:18] <tsmithe> please?
[09:18] <un_operateur1> it's supported better on windows
[09:18] <x-r00t-x> :D
[09:18] <wildchild> dabaR: and configure output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37525/
[09:19] <dabaR> tsmithe: google has to know about a tutorial on that.
[09:19] <tsmithe> yeah
[09:19] <tsmithe> i went through it
[09:19] <dabaR> wildchild: and what do you think you need to install next?
[09:19] <un_operateur1> dabaR, what are you building?
[09:19] <tsmithe> but i'm getting one persistent error that isn't very helpful
[09:19] <wildchild> dabaR those 2 packages ? :)
[09:19] <dabaR> un_operateur1: read the configure output
[09:20] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur1,  may i need VNC Enterprise Edition for Unix ??
[09:20] <x-r00t-x> on my ubuntu
[09:20] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> tkroo ,ok
[09:20] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> i was afk ....
[09:20] <un_operateur1> x-r00t-x, I thought you wanted to vnc to a windows box? :)
[09:20] <wildchild> dabaR: how can I isntall bouth packages in the same command: sudo apt-get install libglib1.2-dev & libqt3-mt-dev  ?
[09:20] <dabaR> wildchild: no, it says... configure: error: Library requirements (libusb >= 0.1.11) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. That means you use my formula, aptitude search <whateverConfigureSaysIsMissing>|grep dev. so, aptitude search libusb|grep dev
[09:21] <arrenlex> paranoid_android: ....that is so weird. o_o
[09:21] <dabaR> wildchild: just a space between them
[09:21] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur1,  yes . ubuntu to windows
[09:21] <paranoid_android> arrenlex: told ya lol
[09:21] <x-r00t-x> un_operateur1, i got it ... tnx for your help
[09:21] <un_operateur1> dabar is djplay is indeed what you are building -- i think this satisfies your build dependancies -- apt-get build-dep djplay
[09:21] <un_operateur1> if*
[09:21] <tsmithe> bah
[09:21] <tsmithe> i'm outta here
[09:22] <MistaED> trippy: ok you opened up kaffeine and it didn't do anything?
[09:22] <dabaR> un_operateur1: haha, good point
[09:22] <amonkey> why is apache2 ignoring my .htaccess file?
[09:22] <arrenlex> dabaR: Any ideas? xD http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37524/
[09:22] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> gaurav19 , if Ranish works for u then its fine ... but i knew of a project called Win GRUB that allowed u to load grub using ntldr (ntldr still sat over the mbr) ....
[09:23] <unimatrix9> do you think there should be more tutorials for beginners about ubuntu?
[09:24] <Flannel> unimatrix9: there's plenty of documentation out there
[09:24] <un_operateur1> !tutorials
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tutorials - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <arrenlex> unimatrix9: When was the last time you saw a tutorial for beginners about windows? People should learn by experimenting.
[09:24] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !Ubuntuguide
[09:24] <unimatrix9> i see more books and tutorails then you can count in the local shops!
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Ubuntuguide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <arrenlex> unimatrix9: Ever used one?
[09:25] <Flannel> unimatrix9: help.ubuntu.com
[09:25] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> unimatrix9 , try ubuntuguide.org
[09:25] <paranoid_android> arrenlex: go to the computing section of your local library, under 000 in the dewey decimal section. Windows (insert number, letters here) for Dummies :-)
[09:25] <unimatrix9> not me , but there must be thousends that use them, hence its in the shop for profit remember?
[09:25] <Wiseguy> hey guys, does anyone know how i would output my video on my svideo rather than the laptop monitor?
[09:25] <unimatrix9> use fn
[09:25] <amonkey> i'm having trouble with apache2 ignoring my .htaccess is /var/www, but in the apache2.conf file i can't find where /var/www is explicitly shared.
[09:26] <unimatrix9> and the srceen out button
[09:26] <Wiseguy> whats fn?
[09:26] <danniy> im a novice in linux and i have a problem, can someone pm me?
[09:26] <unimatrix9> its on your keyboard...
[09:26] <un_operateur1> egrep -i "\/var\/www" /etc/apache2/apache2.conf  maybe :)
[09:26] <arrenlex> !ask | danniy
[09:26] <ubotu> danniy: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:26] <Flannel> amonkey: ubuntu doesn't use apache2.conf for most stuff, it separates it out piecewise.  For instance, the /var/www you're looking for is in sites-enabled/
[09:26] <Wiseguy> ohhh
[09:27] <Wiseguy> but that outputs on the VGA
[09:27] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> danniy ,just ask it here.... more chances of u getting helped ...
[09:27] <Wiseguy> not the svideo
[09:27] <Wiseguy> or does it do both?
[09:27] <unimatrix9> oh yes you are right...sorry
[09:27] <miyako> I'm having a problem with installing Ubuntu on my G3 iBook.  I downloaded the 6.01 PPC DVD and burned the iso.  My Ubuntu box recognizes the disk, but when I put it in my iBook, I can see it in /Volumes but it won't boot, and I don't get the disk icon on the desktop (I don't see anything under /Volumes/Ubuntu 6.10, and when I ejected and re-inserted the disk it failed to show up under /Volumes)
[09:27] <podr0znik> ok, then me again with another stupid questions (if they exist)
[09:27] <unimatrix9> :P
[09:27] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> podr0znik , i rule at asking stupid questions
[09:27] <podr0znik> I'm trying to create an extra folder on my hard disk, just the way I was used to do that in W..... (don't want to curse here)
[09:27] <podr0znik> but the option is greyed out
[09:28] <SilentDis> 'lo :)
[09:28] <podr0znik> do you, GreyGhost? ;)
[09:28] <frogzoo> Wiseguy: are you running fglrx ?
[09:28] <arrenlex> !hi | SilentDis
[09:28] <ubotu> SilentDis: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:28] <Wiseguy> hey unimatrix9 did you ever go by the name nmatrix?
[09:28] <SilentDis> lol hi arrenlex, ubotu :)
[09:28] <danniy> ok, so i just installed ubuntu and i have i account, when i use the su command my password is not good, what to do?
[09:28] <Wiseguy> frogzoo, no... im on an integrated intel chip
[09:28] <malt1> is there any good free SMTP hosts? that i could use for temp for my phpbb site to use for email confirm
[09:28] <Wiseguy> i810 i believe
[09:28] <podr0znik> so then I thought I could log in as root, but that apparently doesn't work like logging in as another user
[09:28] <unimatrix9> no never
[09:28] <arrenlex> !sudo | danniy
[09:28] <ubotu> danniy: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:29] <danniy> thanx
[09:29] <unimatrix9> i got this nick registered so use it all the time
[09:29] <un_operateur1> su asks for root's password while sudo asks for yours
[09:29] <Wiseguy> ok, cause im sure i used to know a guy that used to idle in our linux chan that went by the name nmatrix9
[09:29] <danniy> but i did not made any root passwords
[09:29] <danniy> just my account
[09:29] <seanj> danniy: you only need your own password
[09:29] <unimatrix9> i am not that idle
[09:29] <arrenlex> danniy: sudo asks for YOUR password.
[09:29] <unimatrix9> :)
[09:29] <danniy> doesnt work
[09:29] <podr0znik> and regarding my question - would sudo also solve my thing?
[09:29] <un_operateur1> danniy, ubuntu doesnt have a root password set
[09:30] <SilentDis> podr0znik:  what are you looking to do?
[09:30] <un_operateur1>  .. by default atleast
[09:30] <podr0znik> very simple - create an extra folder on my hard disk
[09:30] <podr0znik> not in my home directory
[09:30] <danniy> i entered my pass, not good, i just entered blank , doesnt work
[09:30] <podr0znik> but from the root
[09:30] <Wiseguy> anyone else have any ideas on how i can switch to my svideo output?
[09:30] <un_operateur1> danniy,  i think you'll find that if you use sudo instead of su -- you'll be ok :)
[09:30] <SilentDis> podr0znik:  yes.  you can do a sudo mkdir /directory/name and it should allow you to (so long as the space is writeable)
[09:31] <un_operateur1> because sudo will ask for your password
[09:31] <zcat[1] > Wiseguy: what card?
[09:31] <miyako> podr0znik: try sudo mkdir /<directory names>
[09:31] <danniy> trying now
[09:31] <podr0znik> ok, let me try :)
[09:31] <unimatrix9> wiseguy
[09:31] <Rupie> The load average has three numbers. What do they mean?
[09:31] <unimatrix9> take a read for nvidia here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318876
[09:32] <Wiseguy> zcat[1] , im on an integrated intel card
[09:32] <Wiseguy> os[Linux 2.6.17-10-generic i686]  distro[Debian testing/unstable]  cpu[1 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1400MHz @ 600MHz]  mem[Physical : 487MB, 55.8% free]  disk[Total : 35.99GB, 79.50% Free]  video[Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device]  sound[]
[09:32] <miyako> so anyone have any ideas about installing on an iBook G3
[09:32] <danniy> i just want to mount my win partitions
[09:32] <danniy> i dont know how to use sudo
[09:32] <zcat[1] > Wiseguy: sorry, can't help.. haven't had much experience with anything but nvidia :(
[09:32] <frogzoo> !ntfs | danniy
[09:32] <ubotu> danniy: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:32] <un_operateur1> Rupie, I think they correspond to the real, user and sys loads
[09:32] <danniy> i have only a su handbook
[09:33] <Rupie> un_operateur1: what's that mean? lol
[09:33] <SilentDis> danniy:  an easy way to think about it is this:  typing sudo before a command basically makes it like that command will execute as root
[09:33] <Wiseguy> zcat[1] , is it a nvidia util that is used for nvidia chipsets?
[09:33] <un_operateur1> danni -- just use sudo instead of su
[09:33] <un_operateur1> sudo <command>
[09:33] <danniy> ok trying
[09:33] <unimatrix9> Wiseguy for your card its different
[09:34] <zcat[1] > Wiseguy: I set up twinview by hand in the xorg.conf. If you had an nvidia I could probably help....
[09:34] <Wiseguy> hmm i see
[09:34] <SilentDis> danniy:  and if you need a gui program to run as root (as example, running nautilus as root), you can gksudo <command>
[09:35] <un_operateur1> Rupie - man uptime
[09:35] <podr0znik> (me very ashamed now, but you were also new someday, right guys?) damn, how to get to the command line option???
[09:35] <frogzoo> SilentDis: you never have to run a gui as root, and it's not really advisable
[09:35] <Wiseguy> another thing is a dont wanna have to statically set my xorg.conf everytime i wanna switch to svideo and then back to normal monitor... is that possible?
[09:35] <Kachingo> Howdy, how do you use apt-get to install from a cd?
[09:35] <Ktracho> hi i program in c++ in visual basic c++ in windows and i installes the KDE C/C++ for ubuntu i tried starting to do my program but i didnt work plis help me
[09:35] <Rupie> un_operateur1: ok, I'll try that, thanks.
[09:36] <frogzoo> Kachingo: open synaptic -> settings -> repos & add cd
[09:36] <zcat[1] > Wiseguy: dunno.. If I were asking, I'd probably start with a google search for xorg+intel+svideo and see what turns up..
[09:36] <Kachingo> frogzoo: how would I do it from the command line?
[09:36] <arrenlex> Ktracho: "visual basic c++" is like "java fortran". What do you mean?
[09:36] <unimatrix9> Wiseguy, i dont know, but i think you need to do some research on the topic
[09:36] <miyako> Ktracho, are you using C++ or Visual Basic?
[09:36] <un_operateur1> Kachingo, you pop the CD in -- sudo apt-cdrom; apt-get update; apt-get install <package>
[09:36] <Ktracho> C++
[09:36] <unimatrix9> here is an second read for the Wiseguy http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=141031
[09:36] <Kachingo> cheers
[09:36] <SilentDis> frogzoo:  very true, the only things that 'need' it really are stuff like the package manager, imo.  everything else should be done from a command line.  and, most of the apps that could use root access create their links with gksudo already, so it's just more 'info' to have more than anything else :)
[09:36] <un_operateur1> oops -- sudo sh -c "apt-cdrom; apt-get update; apt-get install <package>" :)
[09:37] <zcat[1] > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239894&highlight=xorg.conf  perhaps?
[09:37] <Okt> Is there a way I can access a USB drive from the terminal
[09:37] <unimatrix9> Wiseguy, dont forget to backup your xorg.conf file before editing it!
[09:37] <miyako> Ktracho, C++ applications written using the Windows API won't generally compile under Linux (I think there is a way to do it with Wine, but you'd probably have to ask some wine gurus)
[09:37] <Flannel> Okt: sure, just cd to whereever it's mounted
[09:38] <SilentDis> Okt:  did it automagically mount itself?  if it did, it'll be in /media/
[09:38] <unimatrix9> and have an live linux cd at hand, if thing go very wrong
[09:38] <zcat[1] > looks like you can set it up 'clone' so it will display the same on whatever happens to be plugged in...
[09:38] <Ktracho> ahh ok thanks
[09:38] <zcat[1] > that's how my tvout is set up ..
[09:38] <Okt> SilentDis: Not sure if it did, I am stuck without the gui
[09:38] <tripppy> MistaED,its finding stuff now.
[09:38] <miyako> if your application is just using standard C++ without any Microsoft specific APIs, then you can install gcc and use g++ to compile the application from the command line, or check out some of the IDEs for Linux, Anjuta and KDevelop are good C/C++ IDEs for Linux, there is also a C++ plugin for Eclipse
[09:38] <SilentDis> okt:  well, check in media, also, type mount without any command arguments to see what's mounted.
[09:39] <frogzoo> Okt: cd /media/USB*
[09:39] <tripppy> MistaED, abc channel only. ill move it to a antenna rather a rabbit set.
[09:39] <Ktracho> can some one PM me so i can show him the C++ code ?
[09:39] <MistaED> trippy: cool, i've found in the past that i needed to delete the $HOME/.kde/share/kaffeine directory to get it to work
[09:39] <Okt> frogzoo: showed up as "ipod"
[09:39] <Wiseguy> by the sounds of things even the people that do get them to work say it doesnt work very well... :S
[09:40] <MistaED> tripppy: that's for getting kaffeine to detect the tuner, but good that it's working somewhat for you :)
[09:40] <Canopus> Hi all
[09:40] <unimatrix9> Wiseguy, and the s-video out does not give very good image anyway
[09:40] <unimatrix9> even on Xp its sad
[09:40] <tripppy> MistaED, yeah, i bought it on ebay incl postage 30au!
[09:41] <Canopus> Any one of you upgraded to Edgy and his pc does not boot?
[09:41] <Wiseguy> unimatrix9, i wanted to use it just to watch movies...
[09:41] <Wiseguy> and output them on my tv
[09:41] <unimatrix9> Wiseguy, dont bother
[09:41] <SilentDis> canopus:  do you get an error?  does it make it to grub?  the usplash?
[09:41] <unimatrix9> Wiseguy, its blurry and not nice
[09:42] <unimatrix9> use an dvd player, or use your labtop
[09:42] <Canopus> SilentDis: it goes upto grub, I select the kernel and then no usaplash, error no theme for 640x480
[09:42] <unimatrix9> or use an beamer with the svg out
[09:42] <unimatrix9> hehe
[09:42] <Canopus> and it hangs
[09:42] <Ktracho> i have windows and ubunto on the same had drive can i share files like .mp3 ?
[09:42] <zcat[1] > unimatrix9: that's what I use my nvidia for.. the picture's as sharp as the DVD.. but still a lot less sharp than a monitor.
[09:42] <[hive] > Hey, anyone know whats going on with ca.archive.ubuntu.com? it keeps timing out and I can't apt-get anything
[09:42] <Ktracho> iam new sorry
[09:42] <Wiseguy> ive got a buddy that plays all his PC games on his tv through his s-video... and it looks fine
[09:43] <SilentDis> !mp3 | ktracho
[09:43] <ubotu> ktracho: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:43] <Okt> Is there a command in "nano" for "save as"?
[09:43] <seanj> i agree tv out for movies looks fine
[09:43] <SilentDis> okt:  ^X
[09:43] <tripppy> XBMC and xbox is ultimate.
[09:43] <SilentDis> okt:  er, sorry <ctrl>-x :)
[09:43] <noiesmo> Okt, use ctrl +x and then change the file name
[09:43] <podr0znik> hmm, one step further already
[09:44] <Wiseguy> tripppy, yeah thats what ive got at home... im just at my parents house for christmas break, so im stuck with my lappy
[09:44] <podr0znik> can anybody recommend me some URL with "Linux command line for Newbies"?
[09:44] <we6jbo> hi
[09:44] <we6jbo> hello
[09:44] <SilentDis> canopus:  i haven't seen that one yet...  anyone else in the room see anything like that happen after an edgy upgrade?
[09:44] <seanj> hi we6jbo
[09:44] <miyako> podr0znik, check out the Linux Reality podcast
[09:44] <we6jbo> I have a question
[09:44] <miyako> let me find a link
[09:44] <arrenlex> !ask | we6jbo
[09:44] <ubotu> we6jbo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:44] <miyako> he did a few episodes on the command line
[09:44] <miyako> it's a great resource for new linux users
[09:44] <we6jbo> I have a motherboard
[09:44] <podr0znik> I see
[09:45] <podr0znik> we6jbo: So do I :)
[09:45] <we6jbo> I know it won't run linux
[09:45] <miyako> podr0znik, http://www.linuxreality.com/
[09:45] <zcat[1] > the easiest way is just dual-boot for your games and movies. WindowsXP is still way easier than linux for setting up multiple displays :(
[09:45] <podr0znik> thanks miyako
[09:45] <we6jbo> and I'm going to get a new one. I want a motherboard that will run linux or actually ubuntu
[09:45] <arrenlex> podr0znik: xD!
[09:45] <miyako> no problem podr0znik
[09:45] <SilentDis> we6jbo: please don't use the return key as a form of punctuation for your comments.  this room gets REALLY busy and it'll just get lost :)
[09:45] <we6jbo> ok
[09:45] <arrenlex> SilentDis: We have a factoid for that. xD
[09:46] <Shadow_Fi> hi all
[09:46] <SilentDis> arrenlex:  there is?  share!
[09:46] <arrenlex> !enter | SilentDis , we6jbo
[09:46] <ubotu> SilentDis , we6jbo: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:46] <SilentDis> yay ubotu!
[09:46] <arrenlex> Indeed. Ubotu knows all.
[09:46] <zcat[1] > !botsnack
[09:46] <ubotu> Yum!
[09:46] <Canopus> any ideas anyone .... I don't want to reinstall ... it's just not an option for me
[09:46] <Shadow_Fi> can someone help me?
[09:46] <arrenlex> !someone | Shadow_Fi
[09:46] <ubotu> Shadow_Fi: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:47] <unimatrix9> w6jbo there seem to be motherboards out there that even come with an  linux distro bundled
[09:47] <seanj> i found a motherboard list on linux.com.. dont' know how up-to-date it is: http://www.linux.com/howtos/Hardware-HOWTO/motherboards.shtml
[09:47] <we6jbo> What I want is a motherboard that will run Ubuntu. I am going to go to Frys Electronics to get this motherboard and I know that they like Windows. Where can I get a list of motherboards that support linux or actually ubuntu which I will install onto my compute.
[09:47] <dabaR> Canopus: ya, I have an idea.
[09:47] <SilentDis> shadow_fi:  only ubotu is omnipotent, not the rest of us.  ask your question please :)
[09:47] <Shadow_Fi> I have Error 17 when booting with GRUB
[09:47] <frogzoo> !hardware
[09:47] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:47] <SilentDis> we6jbo:  i haven't herd of a mobo that DOESN'T work with linux.
[09:47] <Canopus> dabaR: Ok, may I know what it is?
[09:48] <we6jbo> Ok I did go to that website and I only see 9 motherboards that will work
[09:48] <frogzoo> !grub | Shadow_Fi
[09:48] <ubotu> Shadow_Fi: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:48] <dabaR> Canopus: edit the grub boot line, by pressing e on the option you want to edit when you get the grub menu. Then you will make it not load usplash, I will find how to do that.
[09:48] <danniy> how do i see my win partitions in ubuntu? sorry for being such a stress
[09:48] <Canopus> I tried that too
[09:48] <SilentDis> danniy:  are they ntfs partitions?
[09:48] <Shadow_Fi> First partition is NTFS primary, then extended 2 partitions, /home and swap, then primary linux partition, which i use as a boot
[09:48] <frogzoo> !ntfs | danniy
[09:48] <ubotu> danniy: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:48] <danniy> nope
[09:48] <danniy> fat32
[09:48] <Canopus> dabaR: I removed usplash from the end of line ... no result
[09:48] <danniy> cuz in ntfs linux cant write
[09:48] <macogw> they should be visible by default...
[09:48] <unimatrix9> Asus seems to be an good choice
[09:49] <arrenlex> !ntfs-3g | danniy
[09:49] <ubotu> danniy: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[09:49] <frogzoo> danniy: not true anymore
[09:49] <danniy> they are just there but when i try to open it sais the drive cant be mount
[09:49] <dabaR> Canopus: still says no splash image for that resolution?
[09:49] <SilentDis> danniy:  should be able to just mount it.  are you running IDE drives, or SATA drives?
[09:49] <we6jbo> SilentDis, the motherboard that I have right now which is a EIS motherboard states on their website that linux will not work and will not be supported which if I had been smart the first time and checked I would not have bought their motherboard
[09:49] <danniy> ide
[09:49] <Canopus> it says nothing ... just hangs does not boot
[09:50] <danniy> linux in on second ide
[09:50] <xarorax> hey
[09:50] <dabaR> Canopus: but does not complain about the splash image?
[09:50] <Shadow_Fi> how i should format my hdd?
[09:50] <miyako> well, night all
[09:50] <Canopus> it does not after I remove usplash from the command line.
[09:50] <zcat[1] > Yay, we can finally write ntfs.. what filesystem will Vista use? :(
[09:50] <ubul3> what can i do to improve boot time in ubuntu?
[09:50] <dabaR> hah
[09:50] <Canopus> It does if I don't remove usplash
[09:50] <xarorax> iv been looking around and still cant seem to find what im looking for: what is the minimum requirements to run ubuntu server?
[09:51] <dabaR> Canopus: but when you do it does not. OK. No idea what to fix then.
[09:51] <arrenlex> zcat[1] : Still ntfs. They dropped their plans for the next gen filesystem in order to be able to actually, you know, release it.
[09:51] <SilentDis> danniy:  you should be able to just mount it directly...
[09:51] <Shadow_Fi> someone can help me in privat?
[09:51] <SilentDis> !mount | danniy
[09:51] <ubotu> danniy: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:51] <danniy> cant
[09:51] <frogzoo> ubul3: boot times in edgy are already pretty good
[09:51] <reverseblade> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[09:51] <reverseblade> /dev/sda1             106G  -57G  157G   -  /
[09:51] <reverseblade> is above normal ?
[09:51] <SilentDis> danniy:  do you get an error when you try?
[09:51] <Canopus> dabaR: :) thanks for the help
[09:51] <zcat[1] > arrenlex: Ahh true... Microsoft hasn't figured out how to write to WinFS yet. They outobfuscated themselves!
[09:51] <ubul3> frogzoo: still there must be some services that can be disabled?
[09:52] <danniy> yup, sais this is not a removable drive
[09:52] <frogzoo> ubul3: definately turn off services you don't need
[09:52] <ubul3> frogzoo: where can I find those
[09:52] <ubul3> *****************
[09:52] <SilentDis> danniy:  what did you type for your mount command?
[09:52] <danniy> could not execute pmount
[09:52] <Shadow_Fi> Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>6 bytes
[09:52] <Shadow_Fi> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
[09:52] <Shadow_Fi> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[09:52] <Shadow_Fi>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[09:52] <Shadow_Fi> /dev/hda1               1        3188    25607578+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[09:52] <Shadow_Fi> /dev/hda2   *        3189        9460    50379840   83  Linux
[09:52] <frogzoo> ubul3: /etc/rc2.d/ & pls don't spam
[09:52] <Shadow_Fi> /dev/hda3            9461        9729     2160742+   5  Extended
[09:52] <Shadow_Fi> /dev/hda5            9461        9729     2160711   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[09:52] <danniy> just entered computer and doubleclick
[09:52] <Shadow_Fi> is this wrong?
[09:52] <SilentDis> !pastebin | shadow_fi
[09:52] <ubotu> shadow_fi: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:52] <arrenlex> !paste | Shadow_Fi
[09:52] <eNaq> i have a serious problem with installing ubuntu
[09:52] <ubotu> Shadow_Fi: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:52] <ubul3> frogzoo: sorry about that
[09:52] <xarorax> iv been looking around and still cant seem to find what im looking for: what is the minimum requirements to run ubuntu server?
[09:52] <xarorax> does anyone have a moment to let me know?
[09:52] <frogzoo> !paste ! Shadow_Fi
[09:53] <arrenlex> zcat[1] : http://bash.org/?55568 :D
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste ! Shadow_Fi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <eNaq> i need some help
[09:53] <macogw> enaq, whats the problem
[09:53] <frogzoo> Shadow_Fi: never paste in channel
[09:53] <Shadow_Fi> sorry
[09:53] <eNaq> the partition i created
[09:53] <eNaq> is not accepted by the installer
[09:53] <Shadow_Fi> anyway, anyone knows where am i wrong?
[09:53] <eNaq> the newworld boot partition
[09:53] <SilentDis> !enter | enaq
[09:53] <ubotu> enaq: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:53] <eNaq> it says it cannot find one...
[09:53] <dts> is there a way to foreward signals from a midi controller to an emulation keyboard so that i can assign Xevents to them?
[09:54] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> Shadow_Fi ,use http://rafb.net/paste/
[09:54] <eNaq> sorry.
[09:54] <zch> can someone help me out, i have problems with installing kubuntu, it starts normally , i select install kubuntu blah blah, and when it comes to language selection screen my keyboard stops working (i have usb keyboard) and it says something about failing to load usb support
[09:54] <ubul3> frogzoo: how do I disable a service?
[09:54] <SilentDis> enaq:  no problems.  that's why the factoids are there :)
[09:54] <eNaq> great.
[09:54] <macogw> zch, try the text based installer (on the alternate install cd).  the live cd has been known to have issues with drivers
[09:54] <frogzoo> ubul3: I just mv rc2.d/S##service to rc2.d/K##service
[09:55] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> zch ,maybe u have a ps/2 keyboard somehwhere aroung?
[09:55] <xarorax> hello?
[09:55] <zch> i need alternate install because i have amd xp 64
[09:55] <Shadow_Fi> how i format my HDD to install Ubuntu with installed Windows?
[09:55] <zch> and no i don't have ps/2 keyboard
[09:55] <SilentDis> danniy:  i must've missed it, how did you try to mount the drive?
[09:55] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !hello | zch
[09:55] <zch> as matter of fact my ps/2 ports are fried (don't ask me how that happened)
[09:55] <ubotu> hello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB
[09:55] <xarorax> aanyone home?
[09:55] <SilentDis> !hi | xarorax
[09:55] <ubotu> xarorax: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:55] <arrenlex> !hi | zch, GreyGhost-Ubuntu
[09:55] <ubotu> zch, GreyGhost-Ubuntu: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:55] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> zch ,sorry... damned ctrl + C
[09:55] <danniy> entered the computer file broser
[09:55] <frogzoo> zch: how did you fry your ps2 ports?
[09:56] <zch> i said don't ask :)
[09:56] <Okt> Now when I load up into the gui I get "I've detected a panel already running, and will now exit." This is my xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/37528/
[09:56] <frogzoo> zch: but now I'm intrigued...
[09:56] <SilentDis> danniy:  ahhh, you must mount the drive first, so you can have access to it.
[09:56] <danniy> how?
[09:56] <SilentDis> !mount | danniy
[09:56] <ubotu> danniy: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:56] <danniy> i know, im stupid
[09:57] <zch> frogzoo: well it was really hot here, so i took a big fan and pointed it to comp case to cool it down, it worked several months like that, and then it was so dirty that prolly some dirt made a shorcut somewhere and fried ps/2
[09:57] <SilentDis> danniy:  no, you're not.  just uninformed.  HUGE difference.  the fact that you're asking here is evidence of that :)
[09:58] <danniy> when i first installed my linux i could see the win partitions, but now i reinstalled it and nothing
[09:58] <zch> macogw: i tried text installer too, same outcome
[09:58] <SilentDis> !diskmounter | danniy
[09:58] <ubotu> danniy: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:58] <frogzoo> zch: heh - stuff happens
[09:58] <zch> frogzoo: it surely does :(
[09:58] <danniy> going now to read
[09:58] <frogzoo> danniy: did you read the link from ubotu already?
[09:59] <Edulix> hi
[09:59] <Edulix> anyone installed opera 9.10 in ubuntu?
[09:59] <arrenlex> !hi | Edulix
[09:59] <ubotu> Edulix: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:59] <frogzoo> !anyone | Edulix
[09:59] <ubotu> Edulix: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:59] <SilentDis> danniy:  if you have more questions, just ask.  if those don't help you... i'm sure someone here can walk you through editing /etc/fstab to do it automatically for you :)
[09:59] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !Opera
[09:59] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[10:00] <Edulix> the pakage is probably thought for debian and it wants me to install  libqt3c102-mt
[10:00] <arrenlex> Yay factoid flooding.
[10:00] <Waappu> Hi. Could you help me please? I can't get sound out of Haupauge WinTV PVR PCI. TV picture is fine.
[10:00] <arrenlex> Edulix: Yes, that is a debian package.
[10:00] <Edulix> arrenlex: how can I tell dpkg dtabase that it's already installed?
[10:00] <un_operateur1> Edulix, you can download the .deb from opera's repo and install it manually
[10:00] <Edulix> so that it doesn't complain
[10:01] <Edulix> un_operateur1: I'm sure. that's exactly what I did
[10:01] <Edulix> xD
[10:01] <SilentDis> waappu:  just to verify the basics:  most tv cards I've played with in the past require a 'bridge' to go to the soundcard.  either an internal connetor, or a shim deal.  is that installed?
[10:01] <Edulix> un_operateur1: the ubuntu package is still the old one
[10:01] <Edulix> not for 9.10 afaik
[10:01] <un_operateur1> Edulix, I just installed opera :)
[10:01] <Edulix> un_operateur1: which version?
[10:01] <Edulix> (check it!)
[10:01] <marc2> how can I find out the uuid of a disk? I just copied the contenst of one part, into another disk, and I am trying to run update-grub but I get findfs: Unable to resolve 'UUID=ce16fa55-3c82-45ca-8d7e-676c29229c1f'
[10:02] <Waappu> Yes , I have cable from board to CD connector and also loop cable from board to sound card line in
[10:02] <SilentDis> !uuid
[10:02] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid" (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[10:02] <un_operateur1> dpkg -l | grep opera : ii  opera  9.02-20060919.6  The Opera Web Browser
[10:02] <Edulix> un_operateur1: see
[10:02] <Edulix> no 9.10
[10:03] <un_operateur1> Edulix, its the latest .deb on operas repo
[10:03] <Edulix> which way do I tell to apt database that the package libqt3c102-mt is already installed ?
[10:03] <SilentDis> waappu:  and whatever TV app you're using has CD audio selected as it's source?  and the mixer doesn't have that muted?
[10:03] <arrenlex> !equivs | Edulix
[10:03] <ubotu> equivs: Circumvent Debian package dependencies. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.7 (edgy), package size 18 kB, installed size 128 kB
[10:03] <Edulix> un_operateur1: yes, but not the lastest version of opera: http://digg.com/software/Opera_9_10_Final
[10:03] <chalcedony> how would i read 'somebook.tar' ?
[10:03] <marc2> SilentDis: ok, but why would update-grub fail? how can I "tell" my system that the old hd with the old uuid, is no more, that a new hd is in place
[10:03] <marc2> chable: tar xvf somebook.tar
[10:03] <arrenlex> chalcedony: By untarring it.
[10:04] <chalcedony> untar somebook.tar ?
[10:04] <Edulix> arrenlex: ?
[10:04] <arrenlex> chalcedony: tar xf somebook.tar
[10:04] <barata> hey all ... how to play flash alone?
[10:04] <_goofy_> is it possible to add a new Harddrive
[10:04] <chalcedony> arrenlex: ty
[10:04] <arrenlex> Edulix: That package provides utilities to do what you want. Google to find out how to use it.
[10:04] <frogzoo> marc2: /boot/grub/menu.lst - change the kopt=root=UUID line
[10:04] <_goofy_> is it possible to add a new Harddrive to a lvm
[10:04] <SilentDis> !flash | arrenlex
[10:04] <ubotu> arrenlex: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:04] <Ktracho> can i change ubuntu's language once installed ?
[10:04] <arrenlex> SilentDis: I have Flash 9 already, thanks. xD
[10:04] <chalcedony> arrenlex: ok i did that .. what next?
[10:04] <marc2> frogzoo: thanks, but I deleted that file (on purpose), I dont know where update-grub is getting that crap
[10:05] <arrenlex> chalcedony: What is somebook.tar?
[10:05] <SilentDis> arrenlex:  oh!  you're looking for a standalone flash player or the like?  (outside browser)
[10:05] <arrenlex> (02:04:05 AM) barata: hey all ... how to play flash alone?
[10:05] <Ktracho> can i change ubuntu's language once installed ?????????
[10:05] <frogzoo> marc2: you delete /boot/grub/menu.lst o.O
[10:05] <arrenlex> SilentDis: arrenlex != barata
[10:05] <chalcedony> arrenlex: a book i want to read
[10:05] <arrenlex> chalcedony: In what format?
[10:05] <marc2> frogzoo: I moved it, it doesnt matter, update-grub should regenerate it
[10:05] <Waappu> Nothing is muted on mixer. How I can check source in TVtime program. I have try other programs but no luck. Also I can't get sound out from fm-radio
[10:05] <SilentDis> arrenlex:  doh, darn dyslexia, sorry :P
[10:05] <frogzoo> marc2: menu.lst is an _input_ file for update-grub
[10:05] <macogw> ktracho, yes you can. you have to change a few environment variables
[10:06] <barata> arrentex, I mean a stand alone flash player (anyway, the gflashplayer sucks bad time)
[10:06] <marc2> frogzoo: oh ok, how can I regenerate it?
[10:06] <nevron> i have a problem with the ati fglrx drivers the big desktop setting never works i have tried everything i know can anybody help?
[10:06] <arrenlex> barata: http://www.adobe.com/go/fp9_update_b2_standalone_linux
[10:06] <macogw> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5410 ktracho, look there
[10:06] <arrenlex> barata: Why does it suck?
[10:06] <chalcedony> arrenlex: mybook.tar.gz
[10:07] <arrenlex> chalcedony: .tar.gz is an archive, like .zip. What file is inside the archive?
[10:07] <barata> arrentex: can't rewind/forward. it just plays
[10:07] <frogzoo> marc2: best I can do: /usr/share/doc/grub/examples/menu.lst
[10:07] <SilentDis> take care all.  i'm too tired to provide good help to people right now it appears.  i need sleepy lol
[10:07] <arrenlex> barata: I'm pretty sure it cna do these things.
[10:07] <marc2> frogzoo: UUID is amazing (as in bad)
[10:08] <frogzoo> marc2: seriously, regenerating menu.lst is going to be a major pain - maybe google will turn up something
[10:08] <zch> so no suggestions how i could resolve my issue
[10:08] <zch> apart from suicide
[10:08] <anorexicpillow> lol
[10:08] <marc2> frogzoo: I didnt delete it, i moved it, Ill bring it back, btw mount doenst show / mounted, hah!
[10:09] <Spitfireleet> whats a good screen recording software?
[10:09] <arrenlex> barata: Oh, no it can't...
[10:09] <marc2> Spitfireleet: they all suck
[10:09] <modec> how can I install intel 3d drivers?
[10:09] <chalcedony> arrenlex: my friend told me: totall_6_7 vairied formats
[10:09] <chalcedony> totall_6_7 .txt
[10:09] <chalcedony> totall_6_7 .html
[10:09] <chalcedony> totall_6_7 .doc
[10:09] <chalcedony> totall_6_7 .lit
[10:09] <chalcedony> totall_6_7 .rtf
[10:09] <arrenlex> !istanbul | Spitfireleet
[10:09] <ubotu> istanbul: Desktop session recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 380 kB
[10:09] <frogzoo> marc2: sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[10:09] <arrenlex> chalcedony: There you go, lots of options. Open one of those files. Whichever you like.
[10:10] <chalcedony> arrenlex: okie dokie ty much :)
[10:10] <Spitfireleet> thanks you guys, but what do they use on this video? http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4619385365015674477&q=ubuntu+uk
[10:10] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> modec ,graphics chiset?
[10:10] <marc2> frogzoo: tried that, twice
[10:10] <Edulix> now, opera 9.10 installed
[10:10] <Edulix> how?  sudo dpkg --force-depends -i opera_9.10-20061214.5-shared-qt_en_i386.deb
[10:10] <marc2> frogzoo: the wonders of uuid!
[10:11] <frogzoo> marc2: sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/hd# /
[10:11] <marc2> frogzoo: nope
[10:11] <clayg> #windows
[10:11] <modec> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: 855GM
[10:11] <clayg> anyone here print their own photos?
[10:11] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> modec . 6.10 ?
[10:11] <modec> yeap
[10:12] <frogzoo> marc2: boot live cd & fix menu.lst
[10:12] <chalcedony> arrenlex: is there is a way to list the contents of the compressed file
[10:12] <chalcedony> ?
[10:12] <modec> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: yes
[10:12] <marc2> frogzoo: I am in my working install, no need for that
[10:13] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> modec ,its not already deteced?
[10:13] <chalcedony> clayg: yes
[10:13] <marc2> frogzoo: i am changin menu.lst now with the new $*%$#*%$ uuid
[10:13] <arrenlex> chalcedony: tar tf <file>
[10:13] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> modec ,  run "glxinfo | grep render"
[10:14] <frogzoo> but marc2, UUID makes your life easier ;)
[10:14] <chalcedony> arrenlex: ty :)
[10:14] <modec> GreyGhost-Ubuntu:I get extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:14] <marc2> frogzoo: ehh no, try dealing with it when cloning hds
[10:14] <frogzoo> marc2: you missed the sarcasm font
[10:14] <clayg> chalcedony, what type of paper do you use?
[10:14] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> modec ,one sec .... i think i've read bout that ...
[10:14] <clayg> I got some for free with my hp AIO printer and I  bought 100 for 7 (kodak gloss)
[10:15] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !855GM
[10:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 855GM - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <marc2> frogzoo: heh
[10:15] <frogzoo> marc2: if you're cloning lots of machines, consider using /dev/### syntax instead of UUID
[10:15] <clayg> and the ones that came with the printer are WAY WAY better, then the ones i bought, just wonderinf what I should look for and what is a good type
[10:15] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> modec ,havent tried this myself ...... but worth trying i'd say ...  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28Intel.29
[10:16] <modec> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: thanks I ll try that
[10:16] <marc2> frogzoo: I cant, uuid is turned on by default, whatever voodoo it uses, that son of a bitch just made my list, right next to udev
[10:16] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> modec ,as i said i havent tried it muyslef .....but i believe 82855 GM is the graphics controller for 855GM mobos
[10:17] <frogzoo> marc2: you just change the kopt=root=UUID to kopt=root=/dev/hd##
[10:17] <frogzoo> marc2: also probably the groot definition
[10:17] <marc2> frogzoo: uuid is also used in /etc/fstab....
[10:18] <frogzoo> marc2: yep, so just those 2 places
[10:18] <mszzz> is amd64 version of ubuntu faster ?
[10:18] <nevron> can anybody help me with this big desktop thing in fglrx
[10:18] <arrenlex> mszzz: You will not notice a difference in normal desktop use. And it's quite a headache because of compatibility.
[10:19] <frogzoo> mszzz: for server stuff yes, for desktop, not really
[10:19] <arrenlex> mszzz: I advise you stick with 32-bit distros.
[10:19] <mszzz> thanks
[10:20] <chalcedony> ~$ abiword Tribulation Force - rtf.rtf
[10:20] <chalcedony> Error on option -: unknown option.
[10:20] <chalcedony> Run 'abiword --help' to see a full list of available command line options.
[10:20] <chalcedony> ~$
[10:20] <arrenlex> chalcedony: You have to escape your spaces. Instead of " ", use "\ ". Otherwise Linux treats them in a different way.
[10:21] <arrenlex> chalcedony: I strongly advise you to use tab completion instead. Type "abiword Tri" and then press tab two times to have it complete the file name.
[10:21] <arrenlex> chalcedony: Or else open the file from the file manager ;)
[10:21] <un_operateur1> I strongly advise not using spaces in filenames at all :)
[10:21] <chalcedony> not working
[10:22] <chalcedony> un_operateur1: noo fooling . i didn't create these files
[10:22] <arrenlex> chalcedony: abiword Tribulation\ Force\ -\ rtf.rtf
[10:22] <chalcedony> ahh
[10:22] <un_operateur1> chalcedony, or -- abiword "Tribulation Force - rtf.rtf"
[10:22] <lemao> I am trying to install a debian package I created myself but it is failing with the following message: "Err file: binary/ mypackage 0,1  File not found" Any Ideas?
[10:22] <arrenlex> lemao: Still messing with opera, are you?
[10:23] <chalcedony> arrenlex: opened abiword . unnamed file
[10:23] <arrenlex> chalcedony: File - open - browse to the file xP
[10:23] <chalcedony> i wonder if we could 'mv "nasty file name"
[10:23] <un_operateur1> . o 0 ( I dunno why he doesnt just use TAB )
[10:23] <arrenlex> chalcedony: Seriously, man, use tab completion.
[10:24] <lemao> I was able to get the excluding tree copy solution, but someone sugested that I use svn export instead, which i a lot cleaner.
[10:24] <chalcedony> arrenlex: abiword and i have a problem.. i moved to ubuntu from debian.. all my files are in "home" .. a thousand or so.. the gui  for abilword wont find the files
[10:24] <arrenlex> lemao: Oh, that wasn't you that was messing with opear. XD SOrry.
[10:24] <lemao> np
[10:25] <arrenlex> chalcedony: Why? It should. Does nautilus see them?
[10:25] <danniy> i cant edit the pmount.allow with gksudo.  WARNING: cannot open display
[10:25] <Thunder00> hello... how to search for a specific content of a file in a directory of files.
[10:25] <chalcedony> arrenlex:  i don't know if nautilus works . haven't tried it what's the command?
[10:25] <arrenlex> Thunder00: grep "foo" *
[10:25] <frogzoo> Thunder00: grep 'string'  *
[10:25] <un_operateur1> Thunder00,  grep -inHR <string> /path/to/files/*
[10:25] <arrenlex> chalcedony: ...you ARE gnome, right?
[10:26] <chalcedony> arrenlex: yes and i'm a mom
[10:26] <arrenlex> chalcedony: ...A gnome. xD
[10:26] <arrenlex> Wait.
[10:26] <arrenlex> IN
[10:26] <chalcedony> :)
[10:26] <arrenlex> IN gnome. Omg
[10:26] <Thunder00> thanks
[10:26] <prOMiNd> any know how to add new resolutions
[10:26] <prOMiNd> i have only 800x600 and 1024x768
[10:26] <prOMiNd> i need all resolutions..
[10:27] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> prOMiNd , get ur display driver installed?
[10:27] <arrenlex> chalcedony: You know, I think I knew that. Were you the one I said was pretending to be a girl to have the guys help her, or was that someone else?
[10:27] <frogzoo> !fixres | prOMiNd
[10:27] <ubotu> prOMiNd: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:27] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ok no then....
[10:27] <chalcedony> gosh arrenlex i hope not
[10:27] <arrenlex> Good. :)
[10:27] <chalcedony> :)
[10:27] <danniy> the link u gave me for mounting win partitions doesnt work
[10:27] <arrenlex> Nautilus is the file manager... do you usually manage files from the command line?
[10:27] <chalcedony> arrenlex: yes
[10:28] <chalcedony> ls filename .. grep
[10:28] <prOMiNd> i need 1280 x 1024
[10:28] <arrenlex> chalcedony: Try running the "nautilus" command.
[10:28] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> i suppose u need drivers only in Windows world....
[10:28] <prOMiNd> ok
[10:28] <youser> hey i noticed in my firestarter active connections theres a service clled Auth running anyone know what thatis for?
[10:28] <un_operateur1> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, you need drivers in every world :)
[10:28] <arrenlex> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: I wish. Then things would actually work in Linux.
[10:29] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu>  un_operateur1 ,but linux ships thenm all>
[10:29] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ?
[10:29] <un_operateur1> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, no way
[10:29] <chalcedony> 6887 items 47.8 gb
[10:29] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> arrenlex , lol ...
[10:29] <youser> ive never seen it before but Auth doesnt sound too good
[10:29] <Rookie_> prOMiNd - open the file xorg.conf (/etc/X11) and see how its in that file, you can then add your res to what ever you want
[10:29] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> un_operateur1 , the only driver i installed uptill now is my graphics driver one ....
[10:29] <danniy> any other possibilities to mount win partitions?
[10:29] <arrenlex> chalcedony: a) wow, that is a LOT of files o_o b) where is that from?
[10:30] <zch> i found a solution
[10:30] <gnomefreak> !mount | danniy
[10:30] <un_operateur1> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, well, once you get out of the realm of the usual hardware into peripherals -- its a whole different story
[10:30] <ubotu> danniy: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[10:30] <zch> i broke kubuntu disk in half
[10:30] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> hmm....  Keybuk, mdz, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez, tonyyarusso or gnomefreak!
[10:30] <gnomefreak> zch: watch your language
[10:30] <gnomefreak> pradeep: im here
[10:30] <youser> anyone at all know what th service Auth is in my firestarter?
[10:30] <chalcedony> arrenlex: the bottome of the gui file thing
[10:30] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> un_operateur ,oh then ... it'll statrt coming to me in a few days...
[10:30] <un_operateur1> the lack of drivers on linux still is one of the reasons many people dont fully migrate over
[10:31] <arrenlex> chalcedony: Yes, but do you actually see any of the files?
[10:31] <arrenlex> un_operateur1: It's not our fault. Corporations release neither drivers nor specs. There's not a lot we can do in that situation.
[10:31] <arrenlex> HI yango!
[10:31] <evad> the lack of drivers /for/ linux, more like - Linux supports more hardware itself than any other OS ever
[10:31] <chalcedony> arrenlex: i see them .. it's going to take a long time to look at all of them
[10:32] <chalcedony> arrenlex: control f isn't doing so well
[10:32] <arrenlex> chalcedony: You don't need to look at all of them. Just go wherever you unzipped your tarball.
[10:32] <Rookie_> Tell the manufactors to make drivers for linux ... and it has to be free of charge ...
[10:32] <youser> what is Auth service????
[10:32] <un_operateur1> evad, are you being serious ?
[10:32] <evad> yes.
[10:32] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !who are U?
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about who are U? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !help
[10:32] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:32] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> ahh ..tahts the one... :)
[10:33] <arrenlex> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: !ubotu also works and is probably easier to remember.
[10:33] <chalcedony> arrenlex:   ~$ tar tf leftbehind09-23-06.tar
[10:33] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> arrenlex ,hehe k
[10:33] <frogzoo> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: you can also msg the bot so you don't spam the channel
[10:33] <un_operateur1> evad, if linux supports more hardware than any other OS -- it must mean drivers are readily available for any hardware under linux, but that just aint the case
[10:33] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !ubotu
[10:33] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> oh k
[10:33] <arrenlex> chalcedony: That lists all the files in it. Did you actually unpack it?
[10:33] <chalcedony> yes
[10:34] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> frogzoo ,the usual /msg ubotu ?
[10:34] <frogzoo> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: sure
[10:34] <chalcedony> but the file names are messed up with spaces/
[10:34] <un_operateur1> if linux supported hardware like we dream it should -- everybody'd be using linux now
[10:34] <Temp_pennywise> i accidently removed madwifi from from /usr/src/linux-headers/drivers
[10:34] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> k
[10:34] <Temp_pennywise> how do i reinstall it