[08:24] <dholbach> good morning
[08:58] <davidcalle> Hey dholbach o/
[09:02] <dholbach> salut davidcalle
[09:14] <popey> Zut alors!
[09:24] <dholbach> wow... looks like popey has been practising his French!
[09:25] <dholbach> maybe it's time to change the channel language after all
[09:25] <popey> :)
[09:30] <Kilos> lol
[09:30]  * Kilos thanks you all, for the time and hard work you put in
[09:40] <davidcalle> dholbach: channel? You mean all Ubuntu images, right?!
[10:01] <dholbach> of course
[10:49] <davidcalle> dholbach: what do you mean by legacy conversion in your email? Maybe the store could simply consider that oem == gadget
[10:51] <dholbach> davidcalle, they were called "oem snaps" in the past
[10:51] <dholbach> I still have to find out what's happening and how it could be clearer
[10:52] <davidcalle> dholbach: right, especially since we apparently can't query both oem and gadget in the same query
[10:55] <dholbach> yep
[10:58] <davidcalle> popey: dpm: dholbach: be amazed! http://i.imgur.com/frcVOgl.png
[10:58] <dholbach> wow :)
[11:07] <popey> ooooh
[11:07] <popey> I don't like it, change it back :)
[11:13] <nigelb> Wow, suddenly we're getting etherpad spam?
[11:13] <nigelb> I had a few people write to me begging me to accept them into the team. Weird.
[11:21] <dpm> davidcalle, cool, I like your retro Windos XP theme! :P
[11:21] <dpm> *windows
[11:22] <popey> nigelb: yeah, we are all getting them
[11:23] <nigelb> popey: I'm just amused that it took spammers so *long* to find this honeypot.
[11:54] <czajkowski> does anyone have any experience creating a public slack channel ?
[11:58] <popey> I don't think you can
[11:58] <popey> We tried for Ubuntu, but had to make it invite only, with specific domains allowed, and admins able to invite others
[12:05] <czajkowski> ahh
[12:05] <czajkowski> that's a bit painful
[12:07] <popey> yup
[12:12] <nigelb> I've been invited to a few "open" slack channels.
[12:13] <nigelb> It ended up being too painful to use.
[12:16] <czajkowski> ug
[12:16] <czajkowski> h
[12:16] <czajkowski> thanks
[16:00] <dholbach> I call it a day a bit earlier today - have a great weekend everyone!
[16:00] <Kilos> you too ty dholbach
[16:00] <dholbach> thanks Kilos
[18:38] <Kilos> hi popey no reply from ruben on both his twitter nicks
[18:47] <Kilos> now i have no idea how to carry on with spreadu buntu
[18:52] <knome> what exactly is the issue?
[18:53] <Kilos> there are a few of us waiting to be approved there knome
[18:53] <knome> right
[18:54] <Kilos> hoping to use it to spreadubuntu in bangladesh and india areas
[18:54] <Kilos> and of course in africa
[18:56] <popey> Usually we give someone time to respond
[18:56] <popey> Like, the person could be on vacation.
[18:56] <popey> Imagine coming back from vacation and finding loads of pings from someone who could have just waited a week.
[18:56] <Kilos> ok
[18:56] <knome> ultimately, should't all sites have at least a few different admins though, to make sure things can roll on smoothly?
[18:57] <popey> Yes, teams should have multiple admins
[18:57] <popey> Often that's not the case.
[18:57] <knome> unfortunately
[18:57] <popey> it happens
[18:57] <knome> totally...
[19:01] <popey> Kilos: did you notice there's more than one admin on the team?
[19:01] <popey> perhaps you could contact the other admin?
[19:02] <Kilos> i see no other admins popey
[19:02] <popey> https://launchpad.net/~spreadubuntu/+members scroll down
[19:02] <popey> there's like 7
[19:02] <knome> :)
[19:03] <Kilos> let me check that
[19:03] <popey> What exactly is the goal here? To get added to the team?
[19:03] <popey> Then what?
[19:04] <Kilos> ask belkinsa
[19:04] <Kilos> we working together to help locos that are having probs
[19:05] <Kilos> surely if there are 7 admins someone would have approved peeps there
[19:05] <Kilos> is spreadubuntu still working
[19:06] <popey> define "working"?
[19:06] <popey> You would have hoped that people would approve, yes.
[19:06] <popey> However, Spreadubuntu is quite old, and I expect some (all?) of the admins have moved on to other things and not handed over formally to thers.
[19:06] <popey> So probably each admin is either a) not getting the admin mail, b) ignoring it, c) assuming someone else will do it.
[19:07] <popey> All of which are unfortunate
[19:07] <popey> one of them is flannel who is on irc
[19:07] <popey> you could poke them
[19:07] <popey> https://launchpad.net/~nealbussett == Flannel on irc
[19:07] <Kilos> ill try flannel ty
[19:07] <popey> np
[19:09] <jcastro> Do I want to live in a world where the launcher can be moved to the bottom?
[19:11] <popey> Be afraid jcastro, be very, very afraid.
[19:12] <svij> now we just need a Win7 theme for Unity!
[19:16] <popey> That's it, that's _all_ we need.
[19:18] <mhall119> jcastro: don't worry, the window controls are still on the left
[23:43] <wxl> mhall119: fyi i denied and just approved https://launchpad.net/~abibarra as i got an email from them saying that they say your blog post and wanted to work on the appstream stuff.


[00:00] <teledyn[m]> interesting. I don't care which it is so long as I can run ardour again
[00:00] <OvenWerks> it has to be user I think
[00:00] <OvenWerks> unless you have set it with sudo in the first place
[00:00] <teledyn[m]> I think it needs to be user, or it would complain
[00:00] <teledyn[m]> but, I am known to be reckless with Linux ...
[00:00] <teledyn[m]> that's how I learned
[00:01] <arraybolt3[m]> I meant to unmask it - if somehow it's still masked after user unmasking, doesn't that sound like it's masked somewhere in an area that requires root to mess with? (I don't know for sure, please be careful with this and someone correct me if i'm wrong)
[00:01] <arraybolt3[m]> I'm thinking maybe you typed wireplumber when you meant pulseaudio when doing the masking.
[00:01] <teledyn[m]> it can replace the symlink with null as user, so it would seem likely it can be unmasked
[00:02] <arraybolt3[m]> Maybe try just starting wireplumber and not restarting it? (Grasping at straws...)
[00:03] <OvenWerks> is wireplumber installed?
[00:03] <OvenWerks> (I guess I shouold ask which distro you are using too)
[00:03] <teledyn[m]> yes, it is, and the sudo didn't help: $ systemctl unmask wireplumber.service
[00:03] <teledyn[m]> Unit wireplumber.service does not exist, proceeding anyway.
[00:03] <teledyn[m]> it prompted for sudo pw
[00:05] <teledyn[m]> I think I had this issue when I was told to mask pa the first time, the symlink was to a system file, but then removed or set to a null file, but I found the original and soft symlinked it back
[00:06] <teledyn[m]> I'll check the other machine, see what it has for these.
[00:07] <teledyn[m]> the other symlink removed was ~/.config/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service which explains why this is a user-space thing.  I think I did compare the contents of that dir, but I don't think I compared where the links go. sec ...
[00:08] <OvenWerks> yeah, wireplumber is odd, I don't have it in /etc/systemd/user/ but config files I set up for wireplumber still work.
[00:09] <teledyn[m]> now this is interesting too: the working machine does not have the .config/systemd directory at all!
[00:10] <OvenWerks> hmm I don't have a .config/systemd/ at all
[00:10] <OvenWerks> .config/systemd/ would override /etc/systemd/user/ though
[00:11] <OvenWerks> I have to go for a bit. Family calls
[00:11] <teledyn[m]> yes that is what I'm thinking, maybe I should delete it, and then compare the two /etc/systemd/user pw/pa files
[00:12] <teledyn[m]> yes, I should have dinner too.  I'll probably be back at this in an hour or two, or while I'm burning dinner (as too often happens, computing and cooking do not mix)
[00:15] <teledyn[m]> thanks so much for all your ideas on this, it is a real puzzle and I expect it could be something really really simple and dumb, like the day Andy and I sat up until 4am trying to figure out why our three SGI machines would boot to a point but then suddenly all of them went down. Turned out, in IRIX, it is bad to nfs mount a subdir of an already mounted disk. I said to Andy next morning (he stayed and found the issue) "Will we EVER
[00:15] <teledyn[m]> know what we're doing in this business?"
[03:07] <teledyn[m]> Made some progress and may have found one of my toxic 'fixes', a symlink in /etc/systemd/user was set to a sibling file instead of to the same name at /lib/systemd/usr - a reinstall restored the /lib file and I fixed the link, and now fuser -v /dev/snd/* shows the devices, as does aplay -L, which lists both a pulseaudio and a pipewire server. even inxi -A gives  Sound Server-2: PipeWire v: 0.3.58 running: yes, but the Plasma config
[03:07] <teledyn[m]> still says there are no devices and the log is still filling with pulseaudio context caput messages. I was following https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pipewire/+bug/1995313 until I got to the journalctl -xe and there, curiously, their logs find pipewire entries, mine finds none, but finds these context caput when i grep for pipewire.
[03:07] -ubottu:#ubuntustudio- Launchpad bug 1991934 in pipewire (Ubuntu) "mod.rt: RTKit error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied error pipewire on Ubuntu kinetic" [Undecided, Confirmed] [duplicate: 1995313]
[03:09] <teledyn[m]> Could this mean somewhere my KDE is set to use pulseaudio instead of pipewire, or the emulation is not running? I did run the systemctl --user status on the pipewire and pipewire-pulse, and both say they are up, although the service does report these two lines that had led me to the above bug
[03:10] <teledyn[m]> Nov 28 19:40:36 strata pipewire-pulse[2638]: mod.rt: Can't find xdg-portal: (null)
[03:10] <teledyn[m]> Nov 28 19:40:36 strata pipewire-pulse[2638]: mod.rt: found session bus but no portal
[03:11] <teledyn[m]> journalctl -xe | grep pulse:
[03:11] <teledyn[m]> Nov 28 22:10:57 strata kdeconnectd[3056]: org.kde.pulseaudio: context kaput
[03:11] <teledyn[m]> Nov 28 22:10:57 strata plasmashell[2968]: org.kde.plasma.pulseaudio: context kaput
[03:27] <teledyn[m]> Followed that trail to an associated bug that suggested reinstall of xdg-portal... (full message at <https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/v3/download/libera.chat/dbac9272f99c86854549f39d6b6b8b481774cfd6>)
[04:11] <teledyn[m]> I think this will need to wait for tomorrow, but I've now got devices (albeit via pulseaudio) and I installed bluedevil which tells me that I have my Anker connected as "Audio Device" however the Sound config does not show any such device, only the HDMI and laptop speakers/headphones.
[04:16] <teledyn[m]> I didn't find any reference for a pipewire-bluetooth, but I do have pulseaudio-module-bluetooth, however the running pulseaudio is almost certainly a bad idea (step three from that bug report) as my mod.rt errors have been replaced by a string of missing modules
[14:58] <OvenWerks> teledyn[m]: the pipewirepackage for pluetooth would be libspa-0.2-bluetooth
[15:00] <OvenWerks> The actual file(s) it installes is /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/spa-0.2/bluez5/libspa-bluez5.so and /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/spa-0.2/bluez5/libspa-codec-bluez5*


[09:19] <meena> blackboxsw: so the problem then is reduced to sysconfig, and how to extract Linux specific functionality from it, by, say, using the distro classes, or building a new hierarchy, even? for ephemeral, since those actions aren't supposed to be permanent
[14:19] <and-win> Hello
[15:02] <and-win> Could someone clarify how I can determine OS type with cloud-init to use it in Jinja-template of user-data? The goal is use different `runcmd` commands depending on OS
[17:19] <blackboxsw> and-win: I don't think offhand s
[17:19] <blackboxsw> That support is there. But resolving this bug would surface that info in jinja templates. https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1829441
[17:20] <blackboxsw> As merged cloud config defines system_info.distro
[17:53] <blackboxsw> and-win: alternatively, you could have runcmd check the distro with something like [ `python3 -c 'from cloudinit.util import get_linux_distro; print(get_linux_distro()[0])'` == "redhat" ] && echo "YES"
[17:54] <blackboxsw> I realize that'll be painful. it's be best if we can simply extend cloud-init builtin variables to source cloudinit.util.get_platform_info() (which also contains get_linux_distro values too)


[02:32] <new_to_lu> Could anyone tell me my options for web browsing in Lubuntu?
[02:37] <lynorian> new_to_lu, from most to least likely to get support firefox chrome chromium qupzilla midori dillo xombrero lynx elinks although the last two are terminal based
[02:41] <new_to_lu> Thank you lynorian. Do you know how to install Chromium? I didn't understand the website
[02:42] <lynorian> install the chromium-browser package
[02:47] <new_to_lu> I can't find it on the website
[02:50] <lynorian> new_to_lu, it is not on a website
[02:51] <lynorian> !synaptic
[02:51] <lynorian> that is preinstalled in lubuntu and will install lots of stuff for you instead of downloading from a website
[02:52] <new_to_lu> oh I understand now. let me have a look
[02:56] <new_to_lu> I am also interested in W3M, is that installed the same way?
[03:00] <lynorian> new_to_lu, yes
[03:01] <new_to_lu> thank you for your help. I now have Chromium and I'm trying it out
[03:07] <new_to_lu> so will the majority of software available for Lubuntu be in Synaptic?
[03:10] <lynorian> yes the entire reposotry of all ubuntu flavors
[03:11] <lynorian> you can also see sections to see what you have
[03:12] <new_to_lu> that's helpful
[03:18] <new_to_lu> is there any notable software for other Linux distros that Ubuntu can't use?
[03:20] <lynorian> you can install things not in the repositories but it is not that well supported and you can break things quite easily
[03:21] <lynorian> new_to_lu, not really we have a big repo but are lightweight by default
[03:22] <new_to_lu> this is my first time using any Linux OS so it's interesting to me
[04:51] <emerbat> Hello I'm trying install the Lubuntu but after boo appear this message "host0 not active" how can I active it
[11:23] <shawn196|R40> Howdy
[11:23] <shawn196|R40> is it possible to host a wifi infrastructure network from ubuntu?
[15:25] <dompe> hi need help plz
[16:10] <dompe> need help ! plz
[22:06] <Sezar> I need help to setup a two OS booting options ?
[23:45] <drab> hi, I'm trying to figure out what's going on with my ssh-agent right after login
[23:46] <drab> I end up with 3 processes running right after loggin in
[23:47] <drab> two are /usr/bin/ssh-agent -s and one is /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /usr/bin/im-launch /usr/bin/lxsession -s Lubuntu -e LXDE
[23:47] <drab> the latter on seems the one that Xsession is supposed to start as defined in /etc/X11/Xsession.options
[23:48] <drab> that seems to be the starndard way to start an agent when loggin in
[23:49] <drab> the other two are user processes that I've no idea who started them
[23:50] <drab> the second pid actually is in .cache/lxsession/Lubuntu/run.log
[23:50] <drab> which suggests lxsession started it
[23:50] <drab> but no other about the other oen


[09:47] <AutisticPenguin> Hi all. I have found a bug in Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. '/etc/network/if-up.d/postfix' executes fine when a network goes up but '/etc/network/if-down.d/postfix' does not execute when a network goes down. I created a general file in place of 'postfix' and the same goes.
[12:31] <ahasenack> are both files executable?


[06:06] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:07] <vespertatia> Good morning
[06:19] <lordievader> Hey vespertatia How are you doing?
[07:09] <lothar> hi
[07:22] <EdgyMC_69> How can I use my second monitor as a second display?
[07:30] <EdgyMC_69> Are there any AMD drivers for 17.10? The default ones don't really work for me.
[07:57] <Citral90> baraba: test
[09:30] <markus_d> moin
[09:31] <markus_d> I can access samba shares from dolphin (connected them using knetattach). But when I user gnome apps (keepass) I can't access the. What do I have to do?
[10:19] <zxq9> markus_d: Can you mount the samba shares instead?
[10:20] <zxq9> The filesystem type for the mount command is "cifs" iirc.
[10:21] <zxq9> Then you can access the filesystem like any other, as if it were local.
[10:21] <zxq9> https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Mounting_samba_shares_from_a_unix_client
[10:21] <zxq9> `mount -t cifs //<server>/<share> <mountpoint>`
[10:22] <zxq9> (Dolphin *is* awfully convenient, though, and I cheat with it all the time.)
[10:23] <zxq9> I believe some gnome applications allow a url of the form: "smb://<server>/<share>" also. I don't know about keepass, though (I'm not even sure what that is).
[10:26] <markus_d> I am trying this. How would I specify my user in this command? Right now he assumes I want to connect as root
[10:29] <markus_d> This is not working: sudo mount -t cifs<EMAIL_ADDRESS>windows_m
[10:29] <markus_d> Gives me: mount error: could not resolve address for<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Unknown error
[10:29] <hateball> markus_d: you need to add the user as an option
[10:30] <hateball> markus_d: man mount.cifs
[10:30] <hateball> but for username it would be -o username=markus
[10:33] <markus_d> Okay. I try this: sudo mount -o username=markus.doebele -t cifs //dc-01.sh.private windows_m
[10:33] <markus_d> And I get: mount error(22): Invalid argument
[10:35] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:38] <markus_d> In dolphin this works in the address line<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:38] <markus_d> I just love everything kde related ;)
[10:45] <markus_d> I get the same error when I write this in the fstab. I am lost here
[10:46] <markus_d> This is the example I use: //<IP_ADDRESS>/Tausch /media/austausch cifs username=otto,password=geheim,domain=Gruppe1 0 0
[10:46] <markus_d> Its from https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Samba_Client_cifs/
[10:46] <markus_d> Did something change?
[10:53] <markus_d> What the english docu say is also not working: //dc-01.sh.private  /home/markus/windows_m  cifs    user=markus.doebele,pass=temp,domain=MYDOMAIN 0 0
[11:07] <hateball> markus_d: you may need to specify smb protocol version
[11:07] <hateball> markus_d: as mount.cifs might default to 1.0 and that has been patched out from most things since wannacry
[11:08] <hateball> yep, seems so from reading the man-page
[11:08] <markus_d> I found it by trying out like everything. One needs to put the directory name behind the Network Name
[11:08] <hateball> oh
[11:09] <markus_d> smbclient gave me this error. So I tried the same in fstab. And it works
[11:16] <markus_d> Works like in charm in gnome apps now as well. I am happy for today ;)
[11:21] <markus_d> So if somebody else asks. This is how it works: //dc-01.sh.private/Customers  /home/markus/windows_kunden  cifs    user=markus.doebele,pass=mypassword,domain=MYWORKGROUP 0 0
[11:34] <zxq9> markus_d: That's the kind of thing I have to fiddle with about once every year or so, and forget how it works until I check some notes. ;-)
[11:35] <hateball> that's the reason I use things like nextcloud ;p
[11:40] <zxq9> Not an option in many environments.
[11:58] <hateball> zxq9: Then the environment has a design flaw, those can luckily be fixed :)
[12:04] <markus_d> Its a pitty there are still people using windows networks :(
[12:05] <zxq9> Indeed.
[12:05] <hateball> Well if there were only nice things in the world, we would have no need to progress
[12:05] <hateball> But this is better suited for #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[12:05] <zxq9> Also a pity about nextcloud's security and env architecture...
[12:05] <zxq9> Which is my point above.
[12:06] <zxq9> But, that's not anywhere near the final state of file sharing across privately managed services. Which is a great thing.
[12:06] <zxq9> Baby steps. :-)
 What is the problem with Dolphin
 Do you have certain things running when it occurs vs when you are not running those items
[13:11] <kant> h
[13:11] <kant> df
[13:11] <kant> h
[13:11] <kant> sd
[13:11] <kant> fh
[13:11] <kant> h
[13:49] <zxq9> I have an Ubuntu 16.04 on which I've installed Kubuntu alongside Unity (or whatever the default Ubuntu DE is) and on that particular one I've had Dolphin randomly crash as described by Dallas. Very spotty, but occasionally it crashes.
[13:50] <zxq9> My Kubuntu 16.04 installed straight from a Kubuntu image, though, doesn't seem to have that problem. Mystery.
[13:51] <zxq9> The crashy one is on Intel, the stable one is on AMD. With all the microcode wonkiness that has come out lately it wouldn't entirely shock me if that has something to do with it. Or that there is some weird interaction with remaining unused Ubuntu bits. Or whatever.
[13:52] <zxq9> No way to tell for sure. But it doesn't bother me enough to really dig in. I'm working on other development stuff right now anyway. :-/
[13:52] <lordievader> zxq9: Does drkonqi popup, the debug dialog?  I forget the name, but yes, there is a little crash reporter guy.
[13:53] <zxq9> I've sent some reports a while back. Usually I just silence it. I don't really have time to dig into it. I imagine occasional FM crashes on 16.04 isn't a big maintenance priority.
[13:54] <lordievader> How does the utility rate the information it has on the crash?
[13:54] <zxq9> I spend most of my time on that particular system buried in kmail or vim. So its just one of those "works good enough for me" sort of things.
[13:54] <zxq9> I don't recall. I'll give it another whirl when it happens again. I believe I needed some dev packages for debugging info before it had enough to submit a proper report.
[13:56] <zxq9> I suppose I could try to induce a crash right now. It usually happens when I was doing more than one thing at a time. Like having two or more dolphin windows open, decompressing an archive in one while copying between two others or something.
[13:56] <zxq9> I think this (super crappy) system has only one memory channel, so it could just be timing out somewhere thinking it is starved for data during a large transfer or file operation.
[13:57] <zxq9> Which would explain why I don't see it on the (dramatically more capable) AMD system.
[13:58] <zxq9> I would imagine that a blocking timeout would look nicer than a crash, though. I haven't messed with Qt for a while, but I remember it having nicer timeout exceptions than that.
[13:58] <lordievader> Hmm, sounds like a hard problem to debug.
[14:00] <zxq9> No idea. Might be something really trivial. Would have to look at the crash dump to know.
[14:00] <zxq9> The symptoms just feel peculiar being on this particular hardware with slow, single-channel memory.
[14:01] <zxq9> Anyway, I wanted to answer back to the guy chatting via the IrcsomeBot, but I don't know how to flag him, being a blank name.
[14:01] <zxq9> Is IrcsomeBot coming in from a Slack channel or something?
[14:02] <zxq9> Different network like OFTC?
[14:07] <lordievader> IIrcsomeBot is a Telegram bot.
[14:08] <zxq9> Ah.
[14:09] <zxq9> So many ways to chat these days. Times sure have changed!
[14:10] <zxq9> Btw, just for general geek interest, there is a spacewalk happening right now on the ISS if anyone is curious: https://www.nasa.gov/nasalive
[14:11] <Sken> Suppppppp
[14:12] <zxq9> suppppppppper?
[14:43] <Sken> zxq9 ofcourse !
[14:44] <zxq9> Always a good plan. But it is bed time. :-)
[14:44] <zxq9> o/
[15:11] <ivantv> does kubuntu look like manjaro?
[15:35] <MichaH> @ivantv: Yes, kubuntu looks similar to manjaro, if you have manjaro with KDE-desktop. Otherwise will look and behave different. Please notice, that manjaro is a rolling release and that kubuntu s not. Kubuntu is going to publish new LTS-version in about a month.
[15:37] <ivantv> oh ok
[15:37] <ivantv> yes I have manjaro with kde plasma
[15:38] <ivantv> and I love how it looks so I was hoping kubuntu looks the same, Im downloading it atm
[15:41] <BluesKaj> ivantv, yes you can make any OS using KDE/plasma look exactly like another using the same widgets,themes and colours
[15:42] <ivantv> awesome, thank oyu
[15:42] <ivantv> you
[15:43] <MichaH_> @ivantv: Good luck. Which version are you downloading? 16.04, 17.10 or 18.04?
[15:44] <ivantv> 17.10
[15:44] <ivantv> I didnt know there was a 18.04
[15:44] <ivantv> is that experimental?
[15:45] <ivantv> ah I just saw in the page that it is a beta
[15:45] <ivantv> I'll stick to the 17.10 for now
[15:45] <MichaH_> @ivantv: 17.10 is good choice for now, I'm using it actually. And it will allow you to upgrade later to 18.04, which is the upcoming LTS-release.
[16:25] <yuriy_> so what's about kubuntu 18.04? will it win win10?
[16:27] <BluesKaj> Kubuntu Bionic 18.04 has nothing to do with competing with W10
[16:28] <yuriy_> why?
[16:29] <yuriy_> i'm waiting strong desktop linux
[16:29] <BluesKaj> there is no why
[16:30] <BluesKaj> !desktop
[16:30] <BluesKaj> yuriy_,^
[16:31] <yuriy_> i don't use win for a long time (near 10 years), but still nostalgic for the user experience
[16:32] <yuriy_> i'm a KDE user for a long time
[16:35] <yuriy_> maybe will move mac soon. it's unix based
[16:35] <yuriy_> *to
[16:36] <BluesKaj> yuriy_, mac is BSD based , not linux
[16:39] <yuriy_> bsd is unix i know
[16:40] <Mrokii> Hello. I have a problem with KDE connect on a regular basis. My mobile phone doesn't appear in Dolphins' devices-list after it got connected. So I can't access the files (at least I don't know how else I would do it).
[16:41] <BluesKaj> BSD is not Linux ...but this is an offtopic discussion, so we should stop here and join #kubuntu-offtopic chat
[16:42] <BluesKaj> Mrokii, make sure your phone is paired with said computer
[16:43] <Mrokii> BluesKaj: It is. I usually open KDE connect settings and send a ping.
[16:44] <yuriy_> maybe open-source will come soon with come desktop soon...
[16:44] <yuriy_> *some
[16:58] <ajyotirmay> how can I debug graphical issues on Kubuntu?
[18:11] <elichai2> Hey, I have Kubuntu 17.10 and I connected my laptop to a type C dock with audio plug and now the sound doesn't work(disconnected from the dock)
[18:11] <elichai2> I tried reinstalling pulseaudio and alsa and it didn't work
[18:45] <Sken> hey guys, i saw on the kubuntu website, there is an app for facebook messenger, is still working or not?
[18:46] <jubo2> Hiya. Got a weird problem on one Kubuntu machine. Suddenly the Wifi disconnected and I cannot activate the WiFi at all.. trying to click on the checkbox to activate it does nothing. The device does not have a physical airplane switch
[18:47] <obert_> check if there's a wifi password set jubo2
[18:47] <jubo2> obert_: what do you mean?
[18:47] <obert_> in the network setting
[18:47] <obert_> you need to insert a wifi password in order to connect to internet, isn't it?
[18:48] <obert_> one time I rebooted and my wifi password disappeared
[18:48] <obert_> so I had to reinsert it
[18:48] <jubo2> I cannot click on the checkbox to activate the WiFi at all .. only after that I could get to selecting wifi to connect to
[18:50] <jubo2> obert_: that is not the problem
[18:51] <jubo2> Problem is that when clicking from the default panel the connectivity symbol it opens up but I cannot check the checkbox to activate the WiFi
[18:51] <jubo2> This problem just appeared suddenly
[18:51] <obert_> ah I don't know then
[18:54] <Sken> anyone know about the fbmessenger app on kubuntu if its still work? , im not able to run it
[18:55] <jubo2> Ok. Our bad.. there was a touch-switch for deactivating the radio. Problem solved
[19:36] <jubo2> Got another problem on another machine
[19:37] <jubo2> KDEWallet suddenly started asking for a password even if the password was never set
[19:39] <jubo2> so when I open the settings for KDEWallet and unchecked "Enable the KDE wallet subsystem" and then re-enable it and try to add a new wallet to be a default wallet (since we don't know the password for the old default) the new wallet is never added
[20:13] <jubo2> ok.. managed to randomly work around it