[00:58] <iLogical> When I click on Account Settings on empathy to add an account it shows this window in the middle, how can I add an account? I even registered on ubuntu one, but I don't see where to do it there http://i.imgur.com/0q1vC.png
[00:59] <iLogical> I mean
[00:59] <iLogical> to add a facebook account
[09:08] <mandel> morning all!
[10:54] <ali1234> i know what iLogical's problem is
[10:54] <ali1234> he's not running Unity or Gnome, this gnome-control-center hides most of the icons
[11:03] <gatox> good morning!
[11:54] <iLogical> what is this keyring default unlock pass?
[11:55] <iLogical> I tried every password i can think of
[11:55] <mandel> iLogical, is that when you are launching the seahorse app?
[11:55] <mandel> iLogical, AFAIK is your user password
[11:56] <iLogical> I don't know
[11:56] <iLogical> it prompts me when logging to ubuntu one
[11:56] <iLogical> and I can't log in
[11:57] <mandel> iLogical, look for "keys" in the dash and launch that app
[11:57] <mandel> iLogical, try to unlock it there with your user password
[12:13] <iLogical> is there a way in addition to syncing files between my "Ubunto One" folders in my home to be synced always with the same directory when I insert it in one of the pcs ?
[12:13] <iLogical> in my homes
[12:14] <iLogical> between a notebook and a desktop
[12:14] <iLogical> I want it to sync with an external hard drive when I insert it
[12:14] <iLogical> is it possible?
[12:34] <mandel> iLogical, no, external hd and folders outside your home dir (mac/linux=> ~ windows =>C:\Users\youruser) is not supported
[12:35] <mandel> iLogical, mainly because it will break if you mount it with diff users
[12:35] <iLogical> ok
[12:35] <mandel> iLogical, you can use a udf, witch is syncing a folder that is not Ubuntu One,  for example ~/Music
[12:36] <mandel> iLogical, and it will only sync if you really want to in all the devices, so if the netbook hds is not big enough you just dont sync ~/music
[12:44] <iLogical> is it a good idea to sync the .xchat2/ of this irc client?
[12:53] <mandel> iLogical, you might get conflicts if you have xchat opened in two machines...
[12:53] <mandel> iLogical, but you certainly can
[13:20] <iLogical> can I prioritize what is being synced? mandel
[13:20] <iLogical> i want my music folder to be synced first
[13:20] <mandel> iLogical, no, that is a feature that we do not have (Although I'd love to have it)
[14:56] <hallyn> Is there a way to delete my tomboy notes from ubuntu one servers?  (oen is corrupt, and preventing syncing fromall devices now)
[14:57] <mandel> rye, ^
[15:13] <rye> hallyn: have you tried running the note fix script?
[15:13] <rye> sorry for delayed response
[15:13] <rye> http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/us/tomboy-sync-validator.py
[15:17] <hallyn> rye: errors were found in 2 documents
[15:18] <hallyn> 3a2ce419-7457-4282-bedf-8239b5cb1f79: xml_text
[15:18] <hallyn> and another note has
[15:18] <hallyn> 385619a9-b67f-4b75-b6db-67ac07463a1e: datetime_format
[15:19] <hallyn> I'm assuming they  happened when I tried changing notes from (effing) android
[15:19] <rye> hallyn: you can run tomboy-sync-validator.py --fix to have it fixed
[15:27] <hallyn> rye: awesome, thanks!  (running now)
[15:28] <hallyn> failed with:  {"error":"unauthorized","reason":"Authentication required."}
[15:28] <alo21> hi.. I would like to fix bugs, but most of them are assigned to Ubuntu One Client Engineering Team. Does this mean I can't fix the but in anyway?
[15:29] <hallyn> rye: I'll have to look at it later.  thanks again.
[15:30] <rye> hallyn: interesting, OAuth tokens not working? Could you please run http://people.canonical.com/~roman.yepishev/us/ubuntuone-tomboy-update-auth.py ?
[15:30]  * rye has too many scripts
[15:39] <hallyn> rye: now it succeeds.  but it finds two errors every time
[15:40] <hallyn> (bbl)
[15:42] <rye> hallyn: even after calling it with --fix ?
[15:42] <karni> alo21: hi. no, it means someone (or the team itself) has assigned that bug to the team, but we are always happy to accept contributions to our open source clients
[15:43] <karni> alo21: You can bzr branch the project, fix it, bzr commit, and bzr push lp:~your_username/project_name_on_lp/branch_name
[15:43] <alo21> karni, ah.. OK. Thanks
[15:43] <karni> alo21: With that, we can review the code and decide whether to merge it to trunk.
[15:45] <dobey> alo21: u1 does require contributor agreements, so you'll need to fill the form and submit it, if you haven't already
[15:56] <karni> dobey: To any of our clients?
[16:00] <dobey> karni: yes afaik
[16:00] <karni> dobey: I see
[16:36] <hallyn> rye: right, i did --fix twice in a row.  both times it said it fixed it.
[16:41] <rye> hallyn: may I ask you to send the output to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[16:42] <hallyn> rye: i'll do that this afternoon, thanks
[16:58] <iLogical> mandel, I renamed some folders inside my desktop and it's no syncing at all
[16:58] <iLogical> with the notebook, i tried reconnect
[16:58] <iLogical> didn't work
[16:58] <mandel> iLogical, uhm.. did you sync ~/Desktop?
[16:59] <iLogical> no
[16:59] <iLogical> I put everything inside the /home/Ubuntu One
[16:59] <iLogical> so that I can keep more control over what i want to share
[17:00] <mandel> iLogical, oh, then you might have to wait, or look at the desktop and check what is going on..
[17:00] <mandel> iLogical, take into account that the files have to be uploaded..
[17:01] <iLogical> won't they just be renamed?
[17:01] <iLogical> I didn't add anything new, or deleted, i just renamed some folders
[17:02] <mandel> iLogical, hm.. weird.. that should be super fast
[17:02] <mandel> rye, can you help  iLogical while I'm away, the dog needs the afternoon walk or else the carpet will need the afternoon cleaning
[17:04] <iLogical> no need guys
[17:04] <iLogical> I renamed the files manually
[20:11] <Josse> Hello, guys. So several weeks ago, I thought I had lost my computer, so i went into the ubuntu-one website to deactivate the device (so whoever found my laptop couldn't delete my stored files).
[20:12] <Josse> Now I have found my computer but I can't arrive to get ubuntu-one to connect again.
[20:12] <Josse> Anyone kind enough to help me out?
[20:15] <chaselivingston> Josse: do you receive an error when trying to sign in?
[20:16] <Josse> Yes, chaselivingston.
[20:16] <chaselivingston> Josse: what is the error?
[20:16] <Josse> File sync error: Auth_failed
[20:16] <Josse> This is displayed in the ubuntu one config app.
[20:17] <dobey> Josse: can you swtich to the "devices" tab?
[20:17] <karni> chaselivingston: Hrm. Didn't hally-n have a smiliar issue today?
[20:17] <Josse> "sorry an error has ocured, ubuntu one needs to close.
[20:17] <chaselivingston> karni: maybe so, i didn't really get in on that conversation
[20:18] <Josse> And the details it gives me "unauthorised error" uhost requires auth, invalid access token.
[20:19] <Josse> But then It doesn't close... it enters to the devices tab and shows only  Local Device.
[20:19] <dobey> Josse: can you click "remove" on the devices tab?
[20:20] <dobey> Josse: is this on Ubuntu, Windows, or OS X, on your laptop?
[20:20] <Josse> I can. but I get the same error that ubuntu-one has to close
[20:20] <Josse> and then It doesn nothing.
[20:20] <Josse> this is on Lubuntu, dobey
[20:21] <Josse> But when I click remove, the details of the error are "Attribute error,  Qgroup object has no attribute 'startswith'"
[20:21] <dobey> that's weird
[20:21] <dobey> and likely a bug
[20:23] <Josse> :/
[20:23] <dobey> Josse: if you open the "Passwords and Keys" app (seahorse) and remove the "Ubuntu One" entry, and open ubuntuone-control-panel-qt again, does it work?
[20:24] <Josse> dobey, I don't have such app.
[20:24] <Josse> Should I install it?
[20:24] <dobey> do you have gnome-keyring installed?
[20:24] <Josse> This yes,,.
[20:25] <dobey> i guess probably so. yes you should install seahorse so you can manage the entries in your keyring
[20:25] <Josse> alright: Installing...
[20:28] <Josse> dobey, I did it, and now I get the sign in screen....
[20:29] <Josse> Is it possible to get sync errors because i've updated some files with other computers?
[20:30] <dobey> if there are conflicts it should write another file as filename.conflict on the machine, and you can choose which one is the correct version to use
[20:30] <Josse> perfect! So I'll do it. I'll let you know how it works out.
[20:31] <Josse> Should I somehow file a bug?
[20:33] <dobey> about the auth error issue?
[20:33] <Josse> Yeah.
[20:33] <Josse> After signing it, it's been "Getting informationg, please wait" for a pretty long while.
[20:34] <dobey> just press the "Next" button
[20:37] <Josse> Heh, it's working like a charm!!!!!
[20:37] <Josse> Perfet!
[20:38] <Josse> Now that I'm here, I'd like to thank all the people working on ubuntu-one. I think it's one of the coolest features of ubuntu. Thanks!
[20:40] <dobey> thank you
[23:34] <titoto> I am trying to develop an app for U1, I have a peculiar problem: files which size is beyond around 17Kb fail to upload, (status code 500)
[23:34] <titoto> Any hint as to why?
[23:41] <ali1234> well i assume 500 is http 500 aka "generic server error"
[23:42] <ali1234> so i would look carefully at the traffic between app and server and try to identify exactly where it fails
[23:42] <titoto> But i checked and it affects consistently files which are larger than somewhere around 17KB, so I am wondering if there is a different method than using a PUT to upload larger files
[23:42] <ali1234> try to find exactly how many bytes it fails on?
[23:42] <titoto> all the files under ~17KB succeeded, all the ones above failed
[23:43] <ali1234> make a file exactly 17kb and try to upload it?
[23:43] <titoto> ok, one sec
[23:43] <ali1234> then try 18kb
[23:43] <ali1234> then 17.5kb etc
[23:45] <ali1234> which API are you using to store the files?
[23:45] <ali1234> "cloud"?
[23:45] <titoto> https://files.one.ubuntu.com/content
[23:46] <titoto> yes, cloud
[23:47] <titoto> I think the problem might have to do with the way Go works internally... I can picture a buffer of 16384 being internally used for file io..
[23:48] <ali1234> hmm
[23:48] <ali1234> never used go
[23:48] <ali1234> i wouldn't expect file buffer to be visible that way though
[23:48] <titoto> I will investigate further, I just wondered if there was something useful I wasn't aware regarding uploading, and since it appears not, most likely I dont understand what is going on inside Go
[23:49] <ali1234> are you setting Content-Length properly on the headers?
[23:49] <titoto> yes
[23:49] <ali1234> i would use wireshark to watch what is actually getting sent on the wire
[23:49] <ali1234> some http libraries like to mess with the headders on requests
[23:50] <titoto> ok, I will take your advice and install wireshark
[23:50] <titoto> thanks


[00:00] <nhandler> Any ideas on what I can do to get an external hd to mount? It shows up in fdisk -l, but if I do the mount command, there is no output in the terminal, and the terminal just freezes up (not even Ctrl+c works)
[00:04] <Mohan_chml> nhandler: you mounted it media?
[00:04] <nhandler> Mohan_chml: I *tried* to mount it to /media/disk
[00:04] <Mohan_chml> it to /media* ?
[00:04] <Mohan_chml> nhandler: try on /mnt
[00:04] <Mohan_chml> just a try
[00:06] <Mohan_chml> nhandler: If you are in a GUI, goto users and groups and check whether the user previliges allows you to mount an externel drive
[00:07] <Mohan_chml> in *advanced settings*
[00:09] <nhandler> Mohan_chml: Mounting to /mnt didn't do anything (it shouldn't matter where I mount it if the permissions are correct). I am marked as an administrator, so I should be able to mount external drives as well.
[00:10] <Mohan_chml> Hmmm. okay!
[00:30] <unam3> hi, Is there any way to rebuild /var/lib/dpkg/diversions ?
[01:11] <Silver_Fox_> Goodbye
[01:12] <blasenmich> ever since I updated to 10.4 my machines video doesn't work after the GRUB..... I updated to proprietary video drivers as recommended by Ubuntu's update manager, but can't get it to work.... I've also reinstalled 10.4.   I can only boot using an old 9.04 disk --- help?
[01:14] <blasenmich> must be dinner time
[02:24] <stlsaint> blasenmich: you have issue?
[03:07] <blasenmich> yes
[03:07] <blasenmich> stlsaint you still there?
[03:08] <blasenmich> anyone here?
[03:09] <blasenmich> bye
[04:21] <Nautilus> can anyone tell me how to install a browser (other than FF) in 8.04 LTS?  eg: Opera, Chrome, etc
[04:22] <Nautilus> don't see them in Synaptic, think I the common repositories selected
[04:22] <Nautilus> have* the
[04:24] <Mohan_chml> Nautilus: search for chromium-beowser
[04:24] <Mohan_chml> chromium-browser
[04:24] <Mohan_chml> sorry for the typo*
[04:24] <Nautilus> dont find it. already installed Chromium (turns out to be a game, heh)
[04:26] <Mohan_chml> argh.! Let em find the reposoiyoties that you have yo add
[04:30] <Mohan_chml> Nautilus: http://forums.techarena.in/operating-systems/1266367.htm#post4675358
[04:31] <Mohan_chml> wait its for 9.10 and newer versions I think
[04:33] <AndrewMC> Nautilus: I did the same thing (install chromium bsu [actually is quite a fun game]) but you have to select chromium-browser to be installed in the synaptic package manager
[04:33] <Nautilus> Mohan_chml: ah navermind... just realized FF isn't my problem because a wget does the same thing.
[04:33] <Mohan_chml> ah..! any errors?
[04:34] <Mohan_chml> AndrewMC: he said its not detected in Synaptic
[04:34] <Nautilus> yea, I have a vhost that I can ping but when I do a wget I get a 301 rewrite/redirect for unknown reasons
[04:35] <Mohan_chml> Hmmm.. when you ping www.google.com what is the output?
[04:35] <Mohan_chml> is it pinging?
[04:35] <Nautilus> 0% packet loss
[04:35] <AndrewMC> Nautilus: Really you behind a firewall or something... Although I couldn't imagine that could cause a issue with synaptic
[04:36] <AndrewMC> Did you refresh synaptic?
[04:36] <Nautilus> yup
[04:36] <Mohan_chml> AndrewMC: I am suspecting that his internet is not connected
[04:36] <Nautilus> i need to step away a few, pickup in 10 or 15
[04:36] <AndrewMC> Mohan_chml: How could he be talking here
[04:36] <Nautilus> internet is fine
[04:37] <Nautilus> different box here
[04:37] <AndrewMC> Nautilus: Go sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[04:37] <AndrewMC> In terminal
[04:37] <AndrewMC> Mohan_chml: And he is getting full packet response to google his inet is fine
[04:38] <Nautilus> "couldnt find package chromium-browser"
[04:38] <Nautilus> but I must step away for 10+ mins
[04:38] <AndrewMC> Nautilus: Take out the -browser
[04:38] <Nautilus> "chromium is already the newest version"
[04:38] <Nautilus> thats the game
[04:39] <Nautilus> bbiaf
[04:39] <AndrewMC> Oh right
[04:39] <AndrewMC> Search in synaptic for chromium I KNOW it's there on my PC
[04:46] <Nautilus> chromium is the game
[04:47] <Nautilus> but no matter, I wanted to try a second browser to debug something, but wget shows me the problem isn't FF
[04:49] <shahan> In ubuntu 10.04, is JAVA preinstalled?
[04:50] <Mohan_chml> Hey shahan. It is not
[04:51] <shahan> Mohan_chml: how to install?
[04:51] <Mohan_chml> shahan: goto synaptic and type java 6
[04:51] <shahan> Mohan_chml: hm.mm.... tnx
[04:52] <Mohan_chml> shahan: No worries and hows your college going on?
[04:52] <shahan> Mohan_chml: I am in University.... not in college :)
[04:53] <Mohan_chml> argh!
[04:55] <shahan> Mohan_chml: I asked about JAVA 6 because someone is asking in a BANGALI forum of Linux http://forum.linux.org.bd
[04:56] <shahan> Mohan_chml: for this I thought I could help him by asking the matter in the irc :)
[04:56] <Mohan_chml> shahan: forgot to ask you. how is the forum going on? don't show me (coz idk :P)
[04:57] <shahan> Mohan_chml: you MOHI?
[04:57] <Mohan_chml> shahan: yep :P
[04:59] <shahan> Mohan_chml: what is idk?
[04:59] <Mohan_chml> shahan: I dont know
[05:02] <larry21> I am in search of some documentation for the GRUB boot-loader. specifically GRUB-PC v 1.98
[05:05] <Mohan_chml> larry21: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[05:07] <Mohan_chml> larry21: you can find the link of GNU GRUB at the bottom of that link
[05:08] <larry21> Thanks been there |-)  I am interested in the *.mod files... I have got the background_image and resolution and gfxterm working... but there is a lot of missleading and wrong version stuff in most of what I have found I was hoping some where there might be some up-to-date docs floating around
[05:09] <larry21> BTW I am very new to this Linux world and though loving it still grubbing around for info
[05:09] <Mohan_chml> Good luck larry21
[05:10] <larry21> thanks
[05:12] <Nautilus> ok, i see whats at the heart of my problem, a 301 redirect that shouldnt be happening (local dev box setup, 8.04 LTS).  First of all, what's a good channel to ask about this?
[05:12] <larry21> I am also new to all of the social media stuff... just an old BOFH and been truck driving since the last merger so I got stumbled onto Ubuntu when *P blew up over the summer with security updates...:'(
[05:13] <Nautilus> IRC is far from new though
[05:15] <Mohan_chml> Nautilus: tried at #ubuntu?
[05:15] <Nautilus> will do
[05:15] <Mohan_chml> Okay
[05:15] <Nautilus> thanks
[05:16] <Mohan_chml> Nautilus: have patience there. Someone will surely help you =]
[05:16] <Nautilus> yea, narrowed my issue down, now needta find the right person :)
[05:17] <Mohan_chml> Nautilus: you googled about this issue?
[05:17] <Nautilus> yea
[05:17] <Mohan_chml> No one had posted anything regarding the issue of yours?
[05:18] <Nautilus> most answers are in relation to software installs like wordpress, I'm getting it on a new vhost with no more than an index.html in it.
[05:18] <Mohan_chml> Nautilus: and what bothers you to install a new version?
[05:18] <Nautilus> it feels like a redirect I was playing with is 'cached' somewhere
[05:18] <Nautilus> new version of ubuntu?  When I tried to upgrade to 9 it buffalo'd many things
[05:18] <Mohan_chml> Nautilus: that is which makes me feel bad sometimes
[05:19] <Mohan_chml> Nautilus: try 10.04 and It is awesome. We have 10.10 testing version too (:
[05:19] <Mohan_chml> I will brb. Breakfast
[05:20] <Nautilus> Mohan_chml: Yea one of these days the 10.x LTS version
[05:25] <Nautilus> thanks again, too many tabs open, byes
[05:31] <larry21> ttfn
[05:31] <Mohan_chml> tc
[08:55] <Kimbis> Hej! I installed Ubuntu last night and it works really well. The only problem is my wireless connection. I can connect with an ethernet cable, but I can't connect via WLAN. I don't see any other wireless accounts either. Not sure if a driver is missing or what the deal is. I tried to add it manually, but it doesn't work.:-/
[09:05] <Kimbis> Anyone?
[09:07] <seidos> Kimbis, have you tried ndiswrapper?
[09:07] <seidos> Kimbis, do you know what wireless chipset you are dealing with?
[09:08] <seidos> Kimbis, is it an rtl8180 by chance?
[09:09] <Kimbis> No, I just now got some drivers installed which wouldn't install yesterday. I'm not sure which wireless chipset I have.
[09:10] <Kimbis> Aha! The driver installation fixed it :). Now I can see all the wireless modems in the house.
[09:16] <seidos> well, that was easy :/
[09:39] <Silver_Fox_> Hello
[09:39] <seidos> greetings
[09:39] <Silver_Fox_> Hello seidos
[09:39] <Silver_Fox_> How are you ?
[09:40] <seidos> Silver_Fox_, good/bad.  yourself?
[09:40] <Silver_Fox_> Not bad thank you, just doing some reading
[09:41] <seidos> i am doing some writing, taking a break from reading
[09:41] <Silver_Fox_> =)
[11:20] <MattJones> I'm trying to install Ubuntu for the first time, and after the install screen I get a large unfriendly black blank screen :(
[11:40] <out-of-hand> hi all....
[11:40] <Silver_Fox_> Hello
[11:40] <out-of-hand> is there any possible way one can make a IM Chat Client to comunicate with Blackberry BBM
[12:37] <duanedesign> morning all
[12:37] <Silver_Fox_> Hello
[12:37]  * Silver_Fox_ is super quick ;)
[12:42] <duanedesign> that was
[12:45] <Silver_Fox_> Hehe
[13:14] <Silver_Fox_> o/
[13:21] <philinux> 0/ Congrats Silver
[13:25] <Silver_Fox_> Hey philinux  =) Thank you
[13:25] <philinux> Have you banned anyone yet ;)
[13:25] <Silver_Fox_> Not yet, you volunteering ? >:)  Hehe
[13:26] <philinux> Try your new skills out on this user if you haven't already. Resident Troll
[13:27] <Silver_Fox_> I'll probably have  a proper poke around later philinux ,  bit busy at the minute at work.  Did issue and remove an infraction though , as well as read some of the stickies
[13:27] <philinux> Ok. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1447353
[13:28] <Silver_Fox_> philinux,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1575734
[13:29] <philinux> LOL
[13:30] <Silver_Fox_> Some light hearted humour :)
[13:31] <philinux> Just banned my first spammer for today lol
[13:31]  * philinux Hates spammers ;)
[13:57] <hobgoblin> welcome back Kimbis
[13:58] <Kimbis> Thanks!
[14:31] <Verminator> I need suggestions for an easy to use, FOSS, donor management system.  Any suggestions?
[14:32] <change_of_heart> This is beginners chat :P !!!
[14:32] <change_of_heart> ask me which notepad application is best and i could help you :P !
[14:32] <change_of_heart> sorry to not be of much help
[14:33] <MattJones> I'm trying to install Ubuntu for the first time, and after the install screen I get a large unfriendly black blank screen :( I'm sure it's a graphic problem, I've tried to boot in safe graphics mode and no luck.
[14:33] <change_of_heart> ok
[14:33] <change_of_heart> What have you done to install it so far
[14:34] <change_of_heart> Do you mean your installation has finished ?
[14:35] <hobgoblin> change_of_heart: this is not actually beginners chat - this is a channel for beginners to get help in :)
[14:35] <MattJones> Yep, I installed it over Windows XP, but before that I tried to install it fresh from the bios but it gave me the same black screen.
[14:38] <hobgoblin> MattJones: might be useful to know what specs you're trying to install it on to
[14:39] <change_of_heart> hobgoblin: semantics :)
[14:39] <hobgoblin> not really - it's not a chat channel - the BT chat channel is #ubuntu-beginners-team
[14:40] <hobgoblin> this is the beginners team help channel
[14:40] <hobgoblin> this used to be the BT chat channel about 9 months ago though ;)
[14:41] <change_of_heart> hah :P
[14:41] <MattJones> I have an Asus mobo, a radeon 9200 gfx card, only 1 GB ram though D:
[14:42] <MattJones> Intel Pentium 4
[14:42] <change_of_heart> for ubuntu thats more than enough
[14:42] <change_of_heart> hmm
[14:42] <MattJones> That's what I was hoping
[14:42] <hobgoblin> indeed - though I'd not know whether the radeon was a supported card or not
[14:43] <MattJones> :/
[14:43] <change_of_heart> hahaha
[14:43] <change_of_heart> ahh, the irony
[14:43] <MattJones> What lol?
[14:43] <change_of_heart> shell out for a nice graphics card, but it doesn't wana work :)
[14:43] <MattJones> Yeah lmao
[14:44] <hobgoblin> I'm not saying it's not supported - I just never take much notice of ati cards
[14:46] <MattJones> Other people have used the 9200 with linux I just read so there should be support, my monitor is an lcd tv with vga input but I wouldn't think that would be a problem
[14:47] <philinux> MattJones: google "ubuntu radeon 9200" It's an old card not supported by the new ati driver.
[14:48] <stlsaint> philinux: sup
[14:48] <MattJones> Ah crap :( so no hope then?
[14:49] <philinux> MattJones: the google search should provide answers. I went with nvidia for my new pc 3 years ago.
[14:50] <philinux> stlsaint: o/
[14:50] <MattJones> That's was my exact search term a few minutes ago but I haven't found anyone with installation problems
[14:50] <stlsaint> philinux: hows the week been for ya?
[14:50] <philinux> stlsaint: good yeah apart from rain. got drenched last night lol
[14:51] <stlsaint> little water never hurt lol
[14:52] <philinux> MattJones: google this then. ubuntu radeon 9200 black screen
[14:53] <MattJones> LOL I just was reading through those links
[14:53] <stlsaint> whats the issue?
[14:54] <MattJones> Still reading through I'll come back if I find anything
[14:54] <MattJones> stlsaint I get a black screen booting ubuntu
[14:54] <change_of_heart> Hey, anyone know how i can launch a windows cd from ubuntu using wine?
[14:54] <stlsaint> MattJones: are you using xorg? what release are you on?
[14:54] <MattJones> The latest one
[14:54] <stlsaint> 10.04 or 10.10?
[14:55] <MattJones> I had to install it from windowsXP because installing it from bios gave me a black screen during installation
[14:55] <MattJones> let me check
[14:55] <stlsaint> change_of_heart: you should have some wine options to open the .exe when you right click on it?
[14:55] <MattJones> 10.04
[14:55] <MattJones> 10.04.1*
[14:56] <change_of_heart> ahh yes but when i try to edit the properties of the setup.exe on the cd so i can execute it, it says read only format( im reading off game cd )
[14:57] <hobgoblin> MattJones: try adding some boot options when you boot the livecd https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing%20the%20Boot%20Option%20Configuration%20Line
[14:57] <hobgoblin> there's a link in the page to some common ones
[14:57] <change_of_heart> stlsaint: ahh yes but when i try to edit the properties of the setup.exe on the cd so i can execute it, it says read only format( im reading off game cd )
[14:58] <MattJones> Thanks I'll try and tell you how it goes
[14:58] <stlsaint> change_of_heart: drag the contents of the cd to your system and take ownership of it
[14:58] <stlsaint> change_of_heart: chown <username> <path_to_file>
[14:59] <stlsaint> change_of_heart: after that run with wine
[14:59] <change_of_heart> just to my desktop or soemthing stlsaint ?
[15:00] <stlsaint> change_of_heart: sure...make a folder titled test or whatever and drag the contents to the cd
[15:01] <change_of_heart> 6.3 GB D: 25 minutes
[15:01] <change_of_heart> lol
[15:01] <change_of_heart> zzz
[15:01] <stlsaint> hehe
[15:02] <hobgoblin> change_of_heart: I assume you had a look on the wine appdb to see if it would actually be worth the trouble in the first place
[15:02] <change_of_heart> yea
[15:02] <change_of_heart> it said
[15:02] <change_of_heart> COD 4 would work
[15:02] <change_of_heart> oh well, mightaswel try it
[15:03] <change_of_heart> seeing as i had to format my preinstalled vista because i was screwing around with operating systems :P
[15:03] <stlsaint> cod4 on computer?? pfft...ps3 FTW!!!
[15:03] <change_of_heart> :( im 16, no money for consoles lol
[15:03] <geirha> Try nethack. Much more fun :)
[15:04] <change_of_heart> aha
[15:04] <change_of_heart> i love how help channels turn into chat channels once the right topic is brought up :D
[15:06] <hobgoblin> when there's no help needed or a wait while 6Gb get's copied - it turns quickly
[15:06] <stlsaint> +1 hobgoblin
[15:07] <change_of_heart> :)
[15:07] <MattJones> I tried adding vga=771, got to see a nice ubuntu logo with 5 flashing dots underneath for a while, then the screen flashed green and it went back to the trusty blank black screen again
[15:07] <change_of_heart> 2.6GB of 6.3 GB completed :)
[15:09] <change_of_heart> i should be studying for yearly exam in 9 hours D: !
[15:09] <hobgoblin> MattJones: noapic and noapci can be helpful
[15:09] <MattJones> Thanks I'll try that too
[15:11] <geirha> s/noapci/noacpi/ I think
[15:12] <hobgoblin> two different ones - never remember which is which ;)
[15:13] <change_of_heart> only 300 MB left !
[15:13] <change_of_heart> Who else thinks the way companies advertise USB's and Harddrive space using the decimal system instead of computer measurments is shonky ?
[15:14] <change_of_heart> buying a 4GB usb
[15:14] <change_of_heart> coming home
[15:14] <change_of_heart> and it can only hold 3.9 !
[15:14] <change_of_heart> what is this !
[15:14] <change_of_heart> yay transfer is complete
[15:14] <MattJones> It's shonky
[15:14] <hobgoblin> such is life - some of us remember drives and RAM from the old days so don't worry too much about .1Gb ....
[15:15] <Verminator> why do new windows appear underneath existing windows?  For instance, I open the calculator and instead of being the topmost window, it appears just below the topmost window.
[15:16] <change_of_heart> ITS INSTALLING ! COD IS INSTALLING !
[15:16] <change_of_heart> success!
[15:16] <change_of_heart> thanks stlsaint
[15:18] <stlsaint> change_of_heart: np man
[15:18] <MattJones> well if I only add vga=771 I get the ubuntu logo screen, if I tack on noapci or noapic I only get the blank screen
[15:18] <hobgoblin> Verminator: not sure - but you can select when a mouse moves over them - sys - prefs - windows
[15:20] <stlsaint> Verminator: you may need to check out your window bahaviour settings
[15:22] <Verminator> stlsaint, lloking at that now
[15:23] <Verminator> I dont see anything under preferences or admin that would control this behavior
[15:30] <change_of_heart> COD has been finalizing installation for the past 15 mins
[15:30] <change_of_heart> :(
[15:32] <change_of_heart> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[15:32] <change_of_heart> COD crashes
[15:32] <change_of_heart> :'(
[15:38] <stlsaint> change_of_heart: i had a feeling about that with wine and CoD
[15:38] <stlsaint> change_of_heart: are you sure that the current cod was rated as working and that you werent looking at a older rate on an older cod?
[15:39] <change_of_heart> possibly...
[15:39] <change_of_heart> daaaaaamn it
[15:39] <change_of_heart> silly wine
[15:39] <change_of_heart> :)
[15:40] <stlsaint> sorry, though there are alot of other first person shooter games for linux simply in the repos
[15:40] <change_of_heart> mm
[15:40] <change_of_heart> :/
[15:40] <change_of_heart> i like playing dofus
[15:40] <change_of_heart> its an mmorpg thats linux compatible
[15:40] <change_of_heart> without wine or anything
[15:41] <change_of_heart> pretty sweet
[15:41] <stlsaint> alien areana :D
[15:47] <change_of_heart> hm
[15:47] <change_of_heart> ill reinstall wine
[15:47] <change_of_heart> then playonlinux
[15:47] <change_of_heart> then
[15:47] <change_of_heart> cod
[15:47] <change_of_heart> then try :S !
[15:54] <Verminator> try tremulous, alien arena, nexiuz
[15:55] <change_of_heart> lol cool, playonlinux freezes :)
[16:11] <kosaidpo> hello
[16:11] <kosaidpo>  im readin this classroom but idk from where ican get the slides https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays/07102010/Using%20Launchpad
[16:13] <duanedesign> kosaidpo: i don't think they are available]
[16:14] <kosaidpo> duanedesign: ohh then thers noway to get em ?
[16:16] <change_of_heart> cya guys
[16:16] <change_of_heart> i got exam in less than 8 hours
[16:16] <change_of_heart> and i need sleep :)
[16:16] <stlsaint> l8er
[16:20] <duanedesign> kosaidpo: i would say talk to the instructor, but  I do not think ddecator is around much anymore
[16:20] <hobgoblin> that was my thought duanedesign
[16:34] <kosaidpo> ok tnx guys
[16:34] <kosaidpo> peace out
[16:51] <equivocate> I'm about to start using ubuntu but i dont know if my laptop and external hard drive are compatible. can anyone help?
[16:52] <hobgoblin> a model/make would be a good start ;)
[16:52] <hobgoblin> also - boot the livecd see what works
[16:53] <equivocate> it's a fujitsu siemens, model ms2228
[16:53] <equivocate> im downloading the livecd at the moment
[16:53] <equivocate> it's more the hard drive i'mconcerned about
[16:55] <geirha> equivocate: If it's usb, you should be fine
[16:57] <equivocate> yeah, its usb. i've only just bought it and its saying i need to format it, and it says that I need to make a partition for linux. It's only allowing me to allocate a tiny GB allowance for linux, so I didnt know if thats gonna limit how much i can put on it
[16:57] <Mohan_chml> heya hobgoblin. I am happy that you are back :)
[16:57] <hobgoblin> hi Mohan_chml
[16:58] <geirha> equivocate: «It's only allowing me...»  what's «It»?
[16:59] <equivocate> the external hard drive. I've plugged it in for the first time and i have to complete the set up
[17:00] <geirha> The external harddrive is telling you? Does it have a speaker?
[17:03] <equivocate> funny. the set up just comes up when i plug it in
[17:03] <geirha> What OS are you currently running? Windows? If so it's windows telling you, not the harddrive...
[17:03] <equivocate> ahhh ok
[17:04] <equivocate> so if i just dont do the set up it'll still work with linux?
[17:05] <geirha> Either way will work. If you want to install Ubuntu on it, just tell the Ubuntu installer to use that drive, and it'll format it for you.
[17:06] <equivocate> ah wicked. thank you!
[17:09] <equivocate> also, my boyfriend used ubuntu a while back, and there were problems with wireless internet and he needed to use somthing called ndswrapper or something, to sort it out. Has that been resolved in the newer versions?
[17:10] <geirha> It depends on the brand and model of the wireless interface. Some work out of the box, no fiddling needed. Some are just plain hell to get working because the manufacturer doesn't bother with drivers for linux.
[17:12] <geirha> ndiswrapper sort of "translates" a windows driver into a linux driver, so it allows you to use the windows driver in linux ... which sometimes work.
[17:13] <geirha> equivocate: You should be able to find the brand and model of the wireless interface in the manual that came with the laptop, or on the manufacturer's website.  If you can find that, we can look it up and see if it's problematic in linux or not.
[17:13] <Verminator> Empathy normally uses 10-20% of CPU, sometimes it locks up and uses ~60% cpu, usually on start up, but also each time, I am re authenticated on freenode.  Is this a bug, can it be fixed, is there a work around?
[17:15] <equivocate> ubuntu's pretty much downloaded now so I'll just give it a go i think. My boyfriend just wanted to know! thank you for your help though :)
[18:20] <hobgoblin> MattJones: anymore joy?
[18:41] <hobgoblin> duanedesign: thanks for the welcoming mail - appreciate that this piskie does :)
[18:42] <duanedesign> hobgoblin: :)
[18:46] <hobgoblin> :)
[18:47] <stlsaint> feel the love
[18:47] <hobgoblin> lol
[19:35] <zkriesse> hobgoblin: ping
[19:37] <hobgoblin> pong
[19:37] <zkriesse> hobgoblin: coming back to us eh?
[19:37] <zkriesse> It's about time
[19:37] <hobgoblin> lol
[19:38] <hobgoblin> never really left - I've been undercover
[19:38] <zkriesse> How true
[19:43] <zkriesse> so hobgoblin how ya been?
[19:43] <zkriesse> Welcome Verminator
[19:43] <hobgoblin> zkriesse: same as ever
[19:43] <zkriesse> taking over middle earth all that jazz?
[19:43] <zkriesse> :D
[19:44] <hobgoblin> zkriesse: more like eating again ...
[19:45] <zkriesse> lol
[19:45] <zkriesse> ok Im out for a few minutes
[19:55] <zkriesse> back
[20:07] <sebsebseb> Hi
[20:51] <zkriesse> hello AnPar and change_of_heart
[20:55] <change_of_heart> hello :P
[22:30] <Silver_Fox_> Hello.
[22:31] <zkriesse> wazup Silver_Fox_
[22:33] <Silver_Fox_> Hello zkriesse
[22:33] <Silver_Fox_> How are you?
[22:37] <zkriesse> Eh I'm ok
[22:37] <zkriesse> Preparing for an Exam at Uni tomorrow
[22:39] <zkriesse> wb Verminator
[22:39] <zkriesse> Silver_Fox_: you?
[22:39] <zkriesse> Silver_Fox_: How have you been?
[22:40] <Silver_Fox_> I am fine thank you zkriesse
[22:40] <Silver_Fox_> You have examinations already?
[22:40] <zkriesse> Yep
[22:45] <harrisonk> hello
[22:45] <Silver_Fox_> Hello harrisonk  :)  How are you ?
[22:46] <harrisonk> fine
[22:46] <Silver_Fox_> Good to hear
[22:46] <harrisonk> Am I getting to be known around here?
[22:46] <harrisonk> or is it just me?
[22:47] <zkriesse> Lol
[22:47] <zkriesse> We're getting to know you
[22:47] <zkriesse> Start hanging out with us and that's what happens
[22:47] <harrisonk> I guess
[22:48] <zkriesse> are you in #ubuntu-beginners-team ?
[22:48] <harrisonk> the channel?
[22:48] <zkriesse> yes
[22:48] <harrisonk> not right now
[22:48] <harrisonk> Why?
[22:49] <zkriesse> Ok, this is our help channel, the aforementioned is our team/chat/off-topic/hangout channel. If you really wish to start hanging out with us join that channel as well.
[22:49] <zkriesse> :)
[22:49] <stlsaint> zkriesse: poke
[22:49] <stlsaint> zkriesse: meet me in -team
[22:53] <Verminator> hello zkriesse.  Just trying to get some traffic here or what?
[22:54] <Verminator> how are you btw?
[22:54] <zkriesse> Just saying hi to those whom Ive not spoken to before here
[22:54] <Verminator> I ubgraded from Kubuntu 8.04 to Kubuntu 10.
[22:54] <zkriesse> I'm fine....working on a report of a Microbe/Virus but other than that i"m just peachy
[22:55] <Verminator> I ubgraded from Kubuntu 8.04 to Kubuntu 10.04 which seemed really sluggish and had many problems so I ditched Kubunt and went to Ubunt 10.04, but still seem to be having issues.  Anyone else experienc this.?
[22:56] <Verminator> zkriesse, report on a microb/virus, is this for school or work?
[22:57] <zkriesse> School
[22:57] <zkriesse> College to be more specific
[23:01] <Verminator> zkriesse, good for you.  I hope you do well.
[23:05] <zkriesse> ty
[23:25] <lukjad> Hai Silver_Fox_
[23:25] <Silver_Fox_> Hello lukjad , keeping well ?
[23:25] <lukjad> Silver_Fox_ better, and it's Thursday night! :D
[23:26] <Silver_Fox_> That is excellent news lukjad ,  you shall be 100% for the weekend. :)
[23:26] <lukjad> Hope so, I really am hoping to get to a train show. :)
[23:54] <harrisonk> How would I Zip a folder to a .zip extention?
[23:56] <duanedesign> hello harrisonk
[23:57] <duanedesign> harrisonk: right-click on the file and select 'compress'
[23:57] <duanedesign> harrisonk: it will give you the option to compress as .zip


[03:21] <arbir> Hello ..
[03:22] <arbir> i am trying to check for TRIM support..
[03:22] <arbir> hdparm -I /dev/nvme0n1
[03:22] <arbir> HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[03:22] <arbir> can anybody please help me?
[04:03] <valorie> arbir: I believe trim is built in
[04:03] <valorie> !trim
 As per a comment on the page Valorie posted "systemd handles this now"  Run the command to check the trim schedule:  sudo systemctl status fstrim.timer
[04:16] <valorie> thanks, @DarinMiller
[04:16] <valorie> and happy new year!
 Hi Valorie.  Happy New year to you too!
[04:17] <valorie> thanks!
[04:23] <Exmix> I'm using a software called Synergy to use 1 mouse and keyboard for 2 systems. I would like it if my monitors would turn off after X time. I have it set under the 'Power Management' settings, but they don't actually turn off. I'm going to assume it's because of Synergy since my Kubuntu Machine is the 'client' and such. Anyone else have any other options?
[05:54] <tko1977> has anyone had their screen go off to the left side intermittenly with 18.10 using 1680x1050 res?
[05:55] <tko1977> its a weird bug that doesn't happen in VM, only in host
[05:56] <tko1977> must be because it's not an LTS
[05:56] <tko1977> i tried different drivers. same thing
[05:58] <tko1977> nvidia and xorg have the same issue with the screen going off slightly to the left. hmmm
[06:01] <tko1977> it's probably my monitor. It's an older Acer. It was great in its day. Sez "certified for Windows Vista" -- haha!
[06:03] <tko1977> but the screen going off only happens in 18.10/4.18.x so maybe it's a kernel issue with my monitor like something isn't supported anymore
[06:06] <tko1977> it's a mystery
 Hi all! Muon is failing  upon clicking 'Check for Updates'. It gives a message 'Could not download packages'. The details button give no info. Trying to change Settings- Configure Muon Package Manager - does not register Apply either. How can I troubleshoot and fix this? Thanks
 hmm. Could it have to do with the proxy I use for work? It will not change to 'No Proxy' or 'Detect...' etc. It is stuck. ??
 Ok, Now it is checking for updates but I still cannot get 'Treat suggested packages as dependencies' and 'Allow the installation of untrusted packages' to stick. I click Apply but it does not save.
 Argh! Changing application icons is not working also! It 'saves' but no change happens! 😕
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Hi Folks
[17:13] <IrcsomeBot2> Virus288 was added by: Virus288
 Hi all
 Got a lil question
[17:14] <diogenes_> !ask
 I got mac with kubuntu on it . I have magic mouse 2, Any drivers which will allow me to use it?
 Magic utulities works only on windows


[12:31] <rock__> roaksoax:  Hi. I have MAAS 1.9.4 0n trusty. And 4 physical servers commissioned. Now I want to test our Openstack bundle on MAAS. On MAAS node I installed juju 2.0. And then I followed  https://jujucharms.com/docs/2.0/clouds-maas. MAAS cloud juju model bootstrapping failed. Issue details :  http://paste.openstack.org/show/581940/. Can anyone help me in this.
[12:32] <rock__> roaksoax: Please help if you have any idea on this MAAS cloud bootstrapping.
[12:33] <rock__> roaksoax: from MAAS UI: Events Info:  http://paste.openstack.org/show/582228/
[12:33] <rock__> roaksoax: Console of the server https://imagebin.ca/v/2vj11ogqr5ud.
[12:40] <rock__> roaksoax: That deploying server released . MAAS UI Events info:  MAAS UI: Events Info: http://paste.openstack.org/show/582231/. That server released.
[12:52] <baldpope> rock__, not sure - but sounds identical to what I'm working on this week
[12:53] <baldpope> kiko had pointed me to a different article, 1sec
[12:53] <baldpope> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/11/08/deploying-openstack-on-maas-1-9-with-juju/
[12:54] <baldpope> also, these are probably of decent value - https://insights.ubuntu.com/?s=maas+1.9
[13:05] <rock__> baldpope: Thank you. But my issue is different right. Once juju bootstrap done. Next directly we deploy the OpenStack base bundle here. You have successful  [MAAS+openstack base] bundle setup?.
[13:07] <baldpope> no, keep getting interrupted by other work/prod issues
[13:07] <baldpope> but the 'plan' was to setup maas (done, bm server) and then be able to deploy/bootstrap openstack through maas
[13:08] <baldpope> the original doc I was following I was told is not correct, by kiko
[13:08] <baldpope> he pointed me to some of the articles I posted a moment ago
[13:08] <baldpope> there's a at least 1 other person on the same path as you and I
[13:09] <baldpope> and kiko and some of the other channel participants have been helpful
[13:09] <baldpope> if you have questions, post and stay idle - someone will be along who can answer
[13:11] <baldpope> are you attempting to deploy openstack through the juju charm?
[13:12] <baldpope> side note - curious how you have your networking configured for the openstack servers
[13:13] <baldpope> i have 5 boxes with a total of 7 nics, 1 ilom/ipmi , 2 on board, 4 via secondary nic
[13:13] <baldpope> i had planned to put the 2 onboard into a lag, and use that as the networking for traffic, and then the 4 in a lag for disk sharing
[13:14] <roaksoax> rock__: it seems you aborted the deployment
[13:14] <roaksoax> or something aborted the deployment
[13:17] <rock__> roaksoax: Yesterday, It worked fine. But today due some other issue I reconfigured everything. Then I tried 5 times to bootstrap the maas cloud. But it was giving the same issue. I reconfigured MAAS again. But facing the same issue. How can I resolve this. Do you have any idea? please help me.
[13:19] <rock__> roaksoax: MAAS able to commission successfuly everytime. But curtin installation is aborting.
[13:20] <roaksoax> rock__: what I see in the logs is the machine moves from Ready -> Deploying to Deploying -> Releasing -> Ready
[13:20] <roaksoax> rock__: if it went through "Releasing" that means someone told MAAS to release the machine
[13:20] <roaksoax> rock__: and that /may/ be juju
[13:23] <rock__> baldpope: Yes. I am thinkng that might be a juju bootstrap timeout. I am not sure. But Yesterday when I was doing the same thing curtin installation moving fastly without taking much time. Nearly it was taking 30 min. But today curtin installation has taken 30 min. But not bootstrapped.
[13:23] <rock__> roaksoax: sorry. previous message pointing you.
[13:25] <rock__> roaksoax: So in this situation, any idea from your side?
[13:27] <rock__> baldpope: I have taken 5 servers with 2 nics each. All are having IPMI connection.
[13:30] <rock__> baldpope: On one server I installed VBox. On top of that I created one VM. In that VM I installed MAAS. In that server for, first nic I provided public network. Second nic I created as router. I done with port forwarding and masqurading.
[13:39] <kenytux> hello everyone
[13:40] <kenytux> I really want to ask a question!
[13:40] <kiko> good morning
[13:40] <baldpope> rock__, sounds nearly identical - only difference is I re-purposed an old dell 2950 to act as the maas head
[13:40] <baldpope> kenytux, ask away - sup kiko
[13:40] <kiko> kenytux, it's your lucky day, questions are allowed on tuesdays
[13:40] <kenytux> you make happy
[13:40] <kiko> we try
[13:40] <baldpope> 0_q
[13:40] <kenytux> thank you
[13:41] <baldpope> kiko make happy make baldpope cry ;)
[13:41] <kenytux> how can I deploy a debian distribution with MAAS 2.0 please?
[13:41] <kenytux> There's a way?
[13:41] <baldpope> kenytux, guessing you'd need to import a debian image?
[13:42] <kenytux> yes
[13:43] <baldpope> kenytux, found this after quick search -http://www.travnewmatic.com/2015/02/ubuntu-maas-maas-image-builder-centos-6.html
[13:44] <roaksoax> kenytux: /win 4
[13:44] <roaksoax> err
[13:44] <roaksoax> kenytux: debain is not supported by defailt
[13:44] <mup> Bug #1625636 opened: [2.1] bridge_all on allocate needs to bridge all unconfigured interfaces too <juju> <MAAS:Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1625636>
[13:45] <kenytux> i've tried with image builder "maas-image-builder" on ubuntu 16.04/MAAS 2.0 failed at make step because of python version
[13:47] <kenytux> is there clear steps should I do on iso file?
[13:57] <kiko> kenytux, no clear steps unfortunately. we can help you with paid consulting, but the docs right now /are/ the source code for curtin
[13:57] <kiko> I wish I had a better answer honestly and we are getting there
[14:03] <kenytux> thank you very much!!!! ;)
[14:31] <rock__> roaksoax: HI. I am trying to entire thing on MAAS 2.0. The node which is commissioning in MAAS 1.9 is not able to commission in MAAS 2.0. I mean not doing PXE boot to selected NIC. ERROR:  PXE-E51 ,  No DHCP (or) Proxy DHCP offers were received.
[14:32] <rock__> roaksoax: Please help me in this. This is a network problem?
[14:35] <kiko> rock__, maybe. the node is unable to get a DHCP response.
[14:35] <kiko> rock__, have you enabled DHCP on the VLAN
[14:38] <rock__> Kiko: How to enable in MAAS 2.0.? I gave DHCP and Static Ip ranges.
[14:43] <rock__> Kiko: Yes. From MAAS2.0 UI, I observed   dhcpd, dhcpd6 not enabled. and rackd — Missing connections to 1 region controller(s).
[14:44] <mup> Bug #1625663 opened: [2.1] CLI usage differs from actual command <ssh-import> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1625663>
[14:47] <rock__> kiko: https://imagebin.ca/v/2vjhM0dTBu8E
[14:49] <rock__> Kiko: please tell me how to enable DHCP in MAAS 2.0.
[14:53] <mup> Bug #1625668 opened: [2.1] When trying to add SSH keys for a GH user that doesn't exist, there's no feedback <ssh-import> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1625668>
[14:56] <nirlevy> Hi all, can someone exlain to me the DNS configuration in MAAS to be use by landscape install
[14:58] <nirlevy> I believe I do not configure the private network correctly, once landscape is spawned it looks for DNS in the MAAS node, which should be somewhat configured/
[14:59] <mup> Bug #1625668 changed: [2.1] When trying to add SSH keys for a GH user that doesn't exist, there's no feedback <ssh-import> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1625668>
[15:01] <rock__> nirlevy: You are using MAAS 1.9 (or) MAAS 2.0?
[15:08] <mup> Bug #1625668 opened: [2.1] When trying to add SSH keys for a GH user that doesn't exist, there's no feedback <ssh-import> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1625668>
[15:09] <rock__> Kiko: From UI I enabled DHCP now. Thank you. Previouly I worked on MAAS 1.9.4. Present first time I am doing on MAAS 2.0
[15:10] <nirlevy> kiko: MAAS 1.9
[15:10] <nirlevy> MAAS Version 1.9.4+bzr4592-0ubuntu1 (trusty1) to be exact.
[15:12] <nirlevy> which is the default for apt-get install maas  over ubuntu 14.04.5
[15:14] <rock__> nirlevy: You got MAAS UI right?
[15:15] <rock__> From MAAS UI, go to cluster there you will configure network interface. then modify "unmanaged" to "DHCP and DNS". Then mention static and dynamic ranges there.
[15:23] <nirlevy> kiko, I have set clusters wrong previously, now I have public and private interfaces where private should be DHCP and DNS and public should be unmanaged.
[15:23] <mup> Bug # changed: 1403257, 1452557, 1507724, 1512187, 1596522, 1597541, 1603590, 1607403, 1607980, 1609194, 1613701, 1613702, 1613704, 1615618, 1615686, 1616772,
[15:23] <mup> 1616773, 1616962, 1617195, 1617591, 1617596, 1619202, 1620514, 1620903, 1621981, 1622770, 1623752, 1623753, 1624035, 1624154, 1624380, 1624516
[15:23] <mup> Bug #1625671 opened: [2.1] Need better error message when trying to add SSH keys for LP/GH user that doesn't exist <ssh-import> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1625671>
[15:23] <mup> Bug #1625674 opened: [2.1] No feedback when there are no keys to import from LP/GH <ssh-import> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1625674>
[15:23] <mup> Bug #1625676 opened: [2.0, 2.1, UI] MAAS webui allows boot disk to be changed on an already deployed node <sts> <ui> <MAAS:Confirmed> <MAAS 2.0:New> <MAAS trunk:Confirmed> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1625676>
[15:24] <nirlevy> I do not get the DNS zone though
[15:36] <mup> Bug #1625689 opened: default gateway cannot be set to fe80::/64 via web ui <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1625689>
[15:57] <mup> Bug #1625707 opened: NTP servers on regions and racks do not run in orphan mode <ntp> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1625707>
[16:15] <mup> Bug #1625709 opened: Rack controllers only sync NTP from region controllers, not externally <ntp> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1625709>
[16:15] <mup> Bug #1625711 opened: Peer selection for NTP servers on region controllers is broken <ntp> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1625711>
[16:15] <mup> Bug #1625714 opened: DHCP services on rack controllers only publishes NTP servers on rack controllers <ntp> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1625714>
[20:45] <kkkkk> is there any requirements for conjure-up on 16.04?
[20:46] <kkkkk> do i need unbuntu-desktop ?
[20:48] <kiko> kkkkk, just apt-get install and go
[20:49] <kkkkk> it's not working kiko
[20:57] <kiko> kkkkk, that's not surprising, but without more information there's not much I can say! :)
[21:00] <mup> Bug #1625809 opened: MAAS needs to detect and manage BMCs that are IPv6-only <maas-ipv6> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1625809>
[21:00] <mup> Bug #1625812 opened: [2.1] Error message is not user friendly <ssh-import> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1625812>
[21:57] <kkkkk> kilo
[21:58] <kkkkk> yaml.reader.ReaderError: unacceptable character #x0080: special characters are not allowed
[21:58] <kkkkk>   in "<unicode string>", position 1971
[21:58] <kkkkk>  i keep getting that error with conjure-up 2
[21:59] <kiko> kkkkk, what are you deploying?
[22:00] <kkkkk> i am trying to deploy openstack with maas 2
[22:01] <kiko> mmcc, stokachu: any clue what this is?
[22:01] <kiko> kkkkk, reads like a bug to me, though, maybe report it to launchpad?
[22:03]  * kiko waves out for the night
[22:15] <kkkkk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/conjure-up/+bug/1625839
[23:12] <mup> Bug #1625847 opened: IPv6 commissioning needs to aggregate /128 networks <maas-ipv6> <MAAS:New for lamont> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1625847>


[16:39] <MrChrisDruif> Hai everyone :)
[16:51] <leoquant> hee MrChrisDruif
[16:52] <MrChrisDruif> How's it going leoquant?
[16:52] <leoquant> very well thank you
[16:52] <leoquant> and you MrChrisDruif ?
[16:53] <MrChrisDruif> Also very good....inflamed ear is as good as cured, no longer bothering me....enjoyed the sun this afternoon :D
[16:54] <leoquant> great isn't ....:) its been a cold dark winter
[16:55] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah...and know what? When I came back from winter sport, it felt like coming back to the spring :D
[16:58] <leoquant> yeah...
[16:58] <leoquant> hmm my firewall logs are very noisy....
[16:58] <leoquant> :(
[16:58] <MrChrisDruif> I never look at them :P
[16:58] <leoquant> i'll take alook at it
[16:58] <leoquant> wow...:/
[16:59] <leoquant> latersz


[00:24] <Maximoto> need to use less memory. how?
[01:14] <Maximoto> how do i find some of the apps that i have downloaded and i want them in the menu
[04:57] <wxl> hm just rebooted in a long time and my oneiric network-manager seems disabled
[04:57] <wxl> can't use wireless or wired
[04:57] <wxl> i can't just "enable" either
[04:57] <wxl> or rather i can but it has no effect
[04:58] <wxl> if i try to add a new connection (all the old ones are gone???) everything's greyed out
[04:58] <wxl> any idea what's up?
[05:00] <bioterror> sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[05:00] <bioterror> sudo dhclient eth0
[05:00] <wxl> that's unexpected
[05:01] <bioterror> does it work?
[05:02] <wxl> yep tho obviously that doesn't fix the wireless
[05:02] <bioterror> are you using wep or wpa?
[05:02] <wxl> wpa
[05:06] <wxl> running an upgrade now. can't imagine why that would be a problem but better safe than sorry
[05:06] <wxl> well can't imagine why given that i'm not really getting anything relevant
[05:07] <bioterror> wxl, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo#WPA_Supplicant
[05:07] <bioterror> problems in network manager if that works
[05:07] <wxl> well yeah yeah but i'd actually like to fix nm-manager :)
[05:08] <bioterror> good
[05:08] <bioterror> :D
[05:08] <bioterror> good luck with that, I'm off to work
[05:08] <wxl> kthx
[05:15] <wxl> upgrade fixed it
[05:21] <frankken> anyone having the issue with flash showing up as a missing plugin in chromium and just black in firefox, have purged and reinstalled a few times already
[05:34] <frankken> anyone having trouble with flash?
[08:05] <djslim> hi
[08:07] <djslim> can i install the same graphics cards drivers as i would in ubuntu in lubuntu?
[08:08] <bioterror> yes
[08:08] <bioterror> lubuntu is just ubuntu with different desktop environment
[08:10] <djslim> ok
[08:14] <djslim> This is my 2nd attempt to install lubuntu btw
[08:16] <bioterror> djslim, it's hard to fail ;)
[08:16] <bioterror> only with partitionings
[08:17] <djslim> I added swap space and I think it was unnecessary considering I am installing to a flash drive.
[08:17] <bioterror> yes
[08:17] <bioterror> flash drive and swap does not compute well
[08:17] <djslim> I thought so
[08:17] <bioterror> and journaling file system and flash neither
[08:17] <bioterror> so EXT2 would be a good choice for a flash based system
[08:17] <djslim> ohh that explains a lot
[08:18] <bioterror> technically, you can install ext4 but disable journaling
[08:18] <djslim> Is EXT4 not fine?
[08:18] <djslim> ok, i already installed ext4. can i disable that once I boot it the first tiem
[08:18] <bioterror> yes
[08:19] <djslim> sorry i asked before googled lol. dont normally do that
[08:19] <bioterror> no problems
[08:20] <bioterror> tune2fs -O ^has_journal /dev/sdaX
[08:20] <bioterror> e2fsck -f /dev/sdaX
[11:29] <Umino> hi
[11:29] <Umino> anyone there
[11:30] <Umino> ?
[11:30] <Umino> hi njin
[11:31] <bioterror> yes
[11:31] <bioterror> Umino, how can we help you?
[11:33] <Umino> got a few problems installing lubuntu on my GFs laptop ... 1. java 2. the graphics hardware - i'm not sure if it has the right drivers / hardware acceleration enabled and so on
[11:35] <Umino> and i can't set more than 1024x768 but it looks like the screen is not running at its full resolution
[11:37] <Umino> got java working on another laptop some time ago but i forgrot how i did it
[11:38] <bioterror> Umino, you mean oracle's java?
[11:38] <bioterror> or openjava?
[11:38] <bioterror> Umino, you could generate xorg.conf and force the correct resolution
[11:39] <Umino> that one that makes java stuff on the internet work
[11:40] <Umino> thats oracles java i guess
[11:40] <bioterror> !java
[11:41] <bioterror> Oracle (Sun) Java 6 is the one that you're after
[11:42] <bioterror> Umino, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Workarounds#Screen_resolution_is_wrong.2C_no_matter_what_I_do
[11:43] <Umino> bioterror: how can i check wich driver is currently installed ?
[11:44] <bioterror> hmmm
[11:45] <bioterror> I've never really had that kind of problem :D
[11:45] <bioterror> that I should figure out which driver I'm using
[11:48] <Umino> well .. the thing is ... it looks like there is no hardware accelerations or something because videos (on youtube for example) are playing choppy
[11:48] <bioterror> have you checked if there's propietary drivers available?
[11:48] <Umino> how ?
[11:49] <bioterror> from the "start" menun you should find the correct application
[11:49] <Umino> the "additional drivers" thing (or whatever it is called in english - i have it running in german and there it is "zusätzliche treiber" ...
[11:49] <bioterror> your language is so beautiful ;)
[11:50] <Umino> tried that and it told me i have no proprietary drivers
[11:50] <bioterror> okay
[11:50] <Umino> the list is empty ...
[11:51] <bioterror> can you paste what tells command: lspci |grep VGA
[11:51] <Umino> i had no internet during installation of lubuntu ... is that a problem ?
[11:52] <bioterror> should not be
[11:54] <Umino> can't paste 'cause i'm chatting over my own laptop (win7) having her laptop standing next to mine ... it found a radeon RV250 (Mobillity FireGL 9000) ...
[11:55] <Umino> there also is a sticker on the laptop saysing the same ... mobility radeon 9000
[11:55] <Umino> *saying
[11:57] <bioterror> hmmm
[12:14] <Umino> i think i gotta go
[13:37] <HoNgOuRu> I GET X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[13:37] <HoNgOuRu>   Major opcode of failed request:  73 (X_GetImage)
[13:37] <HoNgOuRu>   Serial number of failed request:  43
[13:37] <HoNgOuRu>   Current serial number in output stream:  43 when trying x11vnc,..... any ideas ??????
[13:42] <HoNgOuRu> I get cant open display, when running x11vnc I need it for work, help... thanks
[14:27] <enroxorz> hey guys. are you guys now an official variant of ubuntu?
[14:34] <Tm_T> yes lubuntu is an officially recognised flavour
[14:34] <Tm_T> per http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/derivatives
[14:35] <enroxorz> sweet
[14:35] <enroxorz> thank you Tm_T
[14:35] <enroxorz> I was trying to sell this to the higher ups but they wouldnt go without an official derivative
[16:59] <hosoka> hello all
[16:59] <hosoka> Goedenavond or Goodevening :-)
[17:04] <kanliot> hi
[17:07] <micahg> FYI, there is now a list of lubuntu packages that fail to build: rebuild: http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20120328-precise.html#lubuntu, main archive: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/#lubuntu
[17:08] <micahg> the rebuild ones are probably more interesting ATM
[17:16] <kanliot> what happens if they don't get fixed this month?
[17:31] <frankken> flash 11.1  works fine,   11.2  = missing plugin
[17:33] <frankken> i luv these rooms of support
[17:33] <frankken> how everyone sits here and sdoesn't say jack shit
[17:33] <frankken> lots of support going on for sure
[17:34] <kanliot> sorry
[17:34] <frankken> makes you wonder
[17:34] <kanliot> are you using the package, or the manual install?
[17:34] <frankken> wtf everyone is doing in this room to begin with
[17:35] <frankken> i've tried 100 different ways
[17:35] <frankken> if i install 11.1   it will work in both chrome and firefox
[17:35] <frankken> put in 11.2  both won't work,,, chromium complains of missing plugin
[17:35] <frankken> firefox just blank screen
[17:43] <frankken> whew, not everyone at once!
[17:43] <kanliot> try the firefox channel
[17:48] <frankken> kanliot, yea because that has something to do with nothing at all
[17:52] <kanliot> don't bitch about the advice i give you
[17:52] <Myrtti> frankken: first of all, you've not given all the information, for example which version of Lubuntu and which version of firefox/chrome. Second of all, have you tried asking in #ubuntu? the problem might not be limited to Lubuntu only. Thirdly, Adobe Flash is proprietary software and it just might be that the problem is in Flash itself, in which case there isn't that much that we can do to help. And finally, generally honey works with ...
[17:52] <Myrtti> ... bees/flies better than vinegar
[17:56] <frankken> myrtti, your right, i asssumed and that was my fault
[17:56] <frankken> its 12.04 precise thats causing the new issue
[17:56] <frankken> and i think its more limited that ubuntu or lubuntu
[17:56] <Myrtti> right, so in that case it would be #ubuntu+1 then rather than #ubuntu
[17:57] <frankken> in other words seems to work find on most machines but a couple now run into this missing plugin problem where only 11.1 flash works
[17:57] <Myrtti> and other people running *buntu have complained that there are problems - however I've not had any trouble myself so I've not had too much attention for the subject.
[17:58] <frankken> thats all fine an dandy but a support channel is not for those not experiencing problems to just sit in and ignore
[17:58] <frankken> because to the user actually wanting help it looks like ignorance of questions
[17:59] <wxl> i'm getting in the middle of this and don't know the past, but what can we do to help you at this point, frankken ?
[17:59] <frankken> i was simply hoping that some may have had a similiar issue that the support channel had helped
[17:59] <frankken> if not that fine
[17:59] <wxl> what issue is this again?
[18:00] <frankken> on some machines running 12.04       it seems flash 11.1 works in chromium and firefox but flash 11.2 comes up as missing plugin in chromium and blank screen in firefox
[18:01] <wxl> i have not personally experienced this per se
[18:01] <wxl> if no one else has, then the only thing you can do here is sit and wait
[18:01] <wxl> perhaps someone else will come up with some other experience
[18:01] <wxl> another idea would be to use the mailing list or the forums
[18:01] <wxl> have you considered those options?
[18:01] <Myrtti> I had the missing plugin problem, I ran upgrades and it was fixed. Relaunched the browser and it just works.
[18:02] <frankken> the biggest option i have considered so far is hashing out the problem in here
[18:02] <wxl> have you ran upgrades?
[18:02] <frankken> in other words shoot some ideas to me to try
[18:02] <Myrtti> so I can't really suggest anything else than just checking that you really do have the latest versions of everything in your system.
[18:02] <frankken> i have run out i've tried everything i can think of
[18:02] <wxl> frankken: you HAVE used the mailing list and forums?
[18:02] <frankken> thats what i thought a support channel was, even if you didn't have the problem one might have ideas to try
[18:02] <frankken> yes i used the forums
[18:03] <frankken> not much for the mailing list
[18:03] <wxl> that is correct, but not necessarily always true
[18:03] <frankken> some where along the way we lost that
[18:03] <wxl> i would suggest using the mailing list. many of the users/devs are more prevalent there than here
[18:03] <frankken> it used to be like that 10 or more years ago
[18:04] <wxl> what i'm saying is that if there is a clear direction to follow, we can give it to you. if not, we're in the same situation as you
[18:04] <frankken> gotcha
[18:04] <frankken> its definately strange
[18:04] <frankken> if i install 11.1  go to a site presto works
[18:04] <frankken> if i upgrade it to 11.2 no go
[18:04] <frankken> if i remove them completely and go straight to 11.2
[18:04] <frankken> nop
[18:05] <wxl> frankly i don't think it's strange. i have only expletives to use for adobe
[18:05] <frankken> if i remove and do 11.1 it works
[18:05] <frankken> i'm there with ya,
[18:06] <frankken> however i have expletives to use about most governments as well but they still exist
[18:06] <wxl> frankly i'm not much happier with google and their flash alternative for linux which is ONLY for chromium. i'm a firefox user
[18:06] <frankken> google=opensource ms
[18:06] <wxl> like you said, this is neither here nor there
[18:07] <frankken> same money, same goals (domination), same behavior
[18:07] <wxl> there has been LOTS of talk about flash lately in the linux world. someone may have a solution. try the mailing list
[18:07] <wxl> need a link?
[18:07] <frankken> sure
[18:07] <wxl> one sec
[18:08] <wxl> there ya go: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
[18:11] <frankken> thx man
[18:11] <wxl> np
[18:11] <wxl> sorry i couldn't be of more help personally
[18:13] <frankken> ehhh np, i just wish the rooms would get back to hashing shit out but actually talking,
[18:13] <wxl> oh we do when we can
[18:13] <frankken> many forget thats how both of you may learn something, then again i'm ol school
[18:14] <Myrtti> please mind your language, frankken
[18:14] <Myrtti> crudeness doesn't make helping you more pleasurable
[18:14] <frankken> huh?
[18:15] <frankken> myrtti, you don't get to decide that, why is it everyone wants to impose rules on everyone else, if you don't like what i'm saying, don't read it
[18:15] <frankken> i simply saying i miss older days when the channels seemed to hash thing out more, were you around then? if so you should remember
[18:15] <Myrtti> actually, as people told you last week when you were here acting in similar ways, I then told you "you'd be surprised" what I can do.
[18:15] <frankken> if that offends you then tough
[18:16] <Myrtti> I've politely asked you to behave and mind your language, and express yourself without expletetives
[18:16] <Myrtti> I and other users of the channel would appreciate if you could do that.
[18:20] <frankken> so, i'm allowed to be here as long as i'm never upset, frustrated, or disappointed that irc support room aren't what they once were
[18:20] <frankken> don't you realize
[18:20] <frankken> the only way i even got a response out of this room was to get pissy
[18:20] <frankken> then all of you want tosay something , but i come in here with a question and let it sit
[18:20] <frankken> and no response at all...........
[18:21] <frankken> and you tell me its my faut? funny maybe its time to take a look at why getting pissed works opposed to just asking your question
[18:22] <frankken> if you scroll back , look at my question, nice and without anger, sat in here for an hour, no response what so ever
[18:22] <frankken> i get pissed you all want to talk, hmmmm yea thats my fault
[18:23] <Myrtti> I asked you questions that may help us help you, I pointed out errors in your plea for help in hope that you'd take them in tow and learn about how to ask support questions, and I also pointed out that we have some standards on how we expect people to behave on the channel
[18:23] <frankken> i was totally happy with the help i received with the link i got from wxl,,, then you had to come in and screw it all up and put me back in a crappy mood
[18:25] <frankken> an irc chat room should not be a magnet for those looking for a cyber dictatorship
[18:27] <Unit193> No, but you did get a link to the rules for this channel when joining and you weren't following them, you then got a nice reminder of them.
[18:27] <frankken> listen i'm fine now, i got what i needed, the point is it took getting upset in the channel to generate a response
[18:28] <Myrtti> please don't use that trick again
[18:28] <frankken> its not a trick if you truly got angry with being ignored
[18:31] <Myrtti> good luck with your endeavours. If you come across new problems with your Lubuntu, remember that giving some background information helps us help you
[18:32] <frankken> good luck with my endeavours LOL are you firing me? lol
[18:32] <frankken> i did have luck tracking down the issues from the other night
[18:33] <CTtechguy> lol I remember getting hammered by 4-5 people because I forgot to disable my away message
[18:33] <Myrtti> no, I'm honestly wishing you good luck in troubleshooting the problem
[18:34] <frankken> the problem from the other night ended up being an sis graphics card driver issue
[18:36]  * wxl has been around on irc for ohhhh something like 20 years. things haven't changed much.
[18:36] <wxl> people help if they can help and if they can't, they're quiet. lots are quiet because they're not even there (thanks, gnu screen!) due to time zone differences
[18:37] <wxl> one thing i have seen changed, often for the better, is guidelines for behavior so we can all get along
[18:37] <wxl> i love expletives but don't use them here ;)
[18:40] <frankken> lol
[18:43] <frankken> i will disagree though on the point that    going along to get along is a dangerous behavior and mind set
[18:44] <wxl> you're welcome to that opinion! but that doesn't mean that it's going to keep you from getting kick banned :D
[18:45] <wxl> i'll also say that NOT getting along just to not get along is pretty silly
[18:45] <frankken> ehhh, small potatoes to keep my sanity of becoming a mindless drone LOL
[18:45] <wxl> ok, enough politics for one day
[18:45] <frankken> we were getting along just fine LOL that is once you started talkin lol
[18:46] <wxl> sorry, i have a full time job to attend to, too
[18:46] <frankken> i guess silence is a pet peeve of mind
[18:46] <wxl> i could recommend a good psychologist and/or pragmatist if you like XD
[18:46] <frankken> because its hard to determine wether its just silence or if your being ignored
[18:46] <wxl> then you shouldn't make assumptions because they make a -- you know -- out of you ;)
[18:47] <frankken> wxl, now how is that not considered banable? or mean? oh yea cuz your saying it to me
[18:47] <frankken> now i don't wanna ban ya for it
[18:47] <frankken> lol
[18:47] <wxl> careful use of the language, frankken
[18:48] <wxl> it's amazing the things you can do when you put your mind to it (rather than letting your emotions rule you)
[18:48] <frankken> nah not careful use of the language, wxl, selective administration is more likely lol
[18:48] <Unit193> Or the fact he was doing borderline rather than all out on it.
[18:49] <Unit193> Anyway, do you have a support question?
[18:49] <wxl> thanks for pointing out the obvious Unit193 ;)
[18:49] <frankken> right, say it, but don't say it, sounds like the chinese, outside voice vs inside voice
[18:49] <wxl> it's not what yo usay, it's how you say it that matters
[18:50] <frankken> right, its not if you say what your thinking but that you coat it with bull the right way lol
[18:50] <wxl> e.g. "hey i asked this already but i'll ask again in case no one saw it" versus "whine you guys are all ignoring me i hate you" ;)
[18:50] <frankken> both get the same, response, which will be a link to the rules
[18:51] <wxl> i should also point out that such rules are pretty ubiquitous and not just in this channel
[18:51] <wxl> so good luck with your spilled milk, frankken
[18:53] <frankken> lol, wxl, all that emotion, actually got you to speak instead of sitting not responding at all,,, curse that emotion! lololol
[18:55] <wxl> frankken: i responded because it didn't seem like the responses were directly dealing with your concerns. that's all. i wish i had the time i read every thing here while i work, but i don't. i happened to notice.
[18:55] <frankken> thx for the link, i'll send the flash question there and see what happens,
[18:55] <wxl> frankken: so not only are you wrong but your further complaining (rather than appreciating people offering you free help on their own time) is only, i would imagine, giving people reason to actually ignore you.
[18:56] <Myrtti> in other news I find that Firefox has an update, so it might fix the problem with flash.
[18:57] <frankken> i'm a big believer that trying to squash all of our emotions is what is making everything so crappy,    i'm convinced that the number one reason they don't want emotion in business is because it supress your concious and or allows you to more easily get over on others/disregard them
[18:57] <frankken> your hear still talking because your not happy
[18:58] <frankken> in my opinion better than sitting mindlessly , with some blah non opinion attitude toward everything because its just easier
[18:58] <frankken> you gave me a cool link andi was happy now your attacking me
[18:59] <wxl> i'm here because i'm trying desperately to portray to you just how ridiculous your behavior is and how counterproductive it is. i'd really like for you and ever other user to get help but my impression is starting to become that i'd rather not help you with anything. which is to say, i'm done with you.
[18:59] <frankken> and i'm still the jerk?
[18:59] <frankken> done with me? were not in business together lol and your nobody to be done with anyone else
[19:01] <morri> hi guys,
[19:01] <Myrtti> hi morri
[19:01] <morri> I got an error which came up just after I wanted to buy something at ubuntuone using banshee
[19:02] <morri> http://pastebin.com/R6691t0h
[19:05] <frankken> maybe try deleting your 10-ptrace.conf
[19:05] <frankken> http://askubuntu.com/questions/41629/after-upgrade-gdb-wont-attach-to-process
[19:06] <morri> I havent been doing any updates recently (for 2 weeks or so)
[19:07] <frankken> updates are usually safe, however not always so thats reallly your call but it may fix it
[19:09] <wxl> morri: which versions are we talking about here?
[19:09] <morri> 11.10
[19:10] <frankken> personally i would try the update first, unless there was a specific reason you weren't doing them
[19:11] <morri> there werent any recently
[19:11] <wxl> i personally can't imagine why ptrace would be the cause of the problem more than it would be an issue with reporting what the actual problem was
[19:12] <frankken> the article was about the same error
[19:12] <wxl> if that patch mentioned in the link above is still in existence with 11.10 then you should be able to run banshee as su and not have the problem
[19:12] <morri> well I can only tell that it happended after I wanted to go to paypal from the banshee window
[19:14] <frankken> so the payment never went through? did you check your paypal account?
[19:14] <wxl> ah the limitations on ptrace are for security reasons https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Roadmap/KernelHardening#ptrace_Protection
[19:15] <frankken> oh huh, thats good work
[19:15] <morri> nah I never got to loginto paypal
[19:16] <frankken> ok
[19:16] <wxl> yeah i imagine it's trying to control a browser process and that's where it's failing
[19:17] <wxl> this may be a bug although this is surprising cuz it would not be limited to lubuntu
[19:17] <frankken> thats a darn good bug report
[19:18] <wxl> you could use the workaround mentioned in that first link but again for security reasons and especially given that money's involved i'd not recommend it
[19:19] <wxl> on the other hand it may be a bug hiding there
[19:20] <wxl> here they change the value of ptrace_scope as aforementioned and then run banshee --debug to find such a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/banshee/+bug/769545
[19:21] <morri> http://pastebin.com/CZV8XeR1 thats banshee as sudo, it didn't load anything what was setup before
[19:21] <wxl> again note the --debug
[19:22] <wxl> banshee being a gnome product is kind of funky because its development is on git and bugs are reported on bugzilla, not launchpad
[19:22] <wxl> that being said going upstream to gnome itself may make some more sense to see if they don't know something that we don't
[19:23] <wxl> they have a huge MESS of irc channels. it's not even funny.
[19:24] <wxl> there's an unofficial #gnome here on freenode but the rest are on irc.gnome.org. might try #gnome or #bugs
[19:24] <wxl> there is no #banshee
[19:24] <wxl> hope that helps morri
[19:26] <morri> http://pastebin.com/RbcZVDaW
[19:26] <morri> I'l see what they say , thanks :)
[19:26] <wxl> ** (Banshee:6214): WARNING **: Error rescanning Purchased Music: No such file or directory
[19:27] <wxl> but i don't think that's your problem
[19:27] <wxl> might be related somehow
[19:27] <wxl> maybe create the directory
[19:28] <morri> it is normally on ubuntu one cloud where it saves itsself
[19:28] <morri> and I don#
[19:28] <morri> t think i deleted the folder there
[19:29] <wxl> also:
[19:29] <wxl> /build/buildd/cairo-1.10.2/src/cairo-surface.c:1287: cairo_surface_set_device_offset: Assertion `status == CAIRO_STATUS_SUCCESS' failed
[19:29] <wxl> has been reported across lots of packages
[19:29] <morri> the folder is still on the one cloud
[19:30] <wxl> well that's about all i can come up with
[19:30] <wxl> good luck :D
[19:30] <morri> thanks
[19:38] <morri> hm those channels don't look loaded with activity, *wouldnt wonder if a digital tumbleweed came across there)
[19:39] <wxl> morri: even irc://irc.gnome.org/gnome ??
[19:39] <wxl> if not then i'd say that given that gnome is more of an ubuntu than lubuntu thing i'd try at that digital madhouse that is #ubuntu
[19:41] <morri> yeah
[19:41] <morri> at least thats active although somebody just joined #bugs.
[20:14] <frankken> making some real progress on this flash issue, seems to be a well known bug for 11.2 and nvidia or noveau
[20:18] <morri> i remember that one
[20:20] <frankken> lol then its back
[20:20] <morri> hm so #gnome have no idea, and irc.gnome.org is in hibernation..
[20:21] <morri> nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[20:22] <wxl> #ubuntu it is morri
[20:22] <morri> yea if they come down from the processor talk
[20:22] <wxl> like i saaid, digital madhouse :O
[20:23] <morri> lol
[21:11] <morri> http://pastebin.com/qENT0yiK
[21:11] <morri> think that says more?
[22:36] <herpy> will lubuntu 12.04 be LTS?
[22:36] <Unit193> The core, kernel and ubuntu stuff will be, but the LXDE/Lubuntu part will not.
[22:37] <herpy> So that is a no?
[22:38] <Unit193> It is in some ways, but not in others.  So mixed.
[22:38] <herpy> ah
[22:39] <herpy> Well you can upgrade to the latest release via update manager right?
[22:39] <Unit193> Yep.
[22:39] <herpy> works wiht lubuntu too?
[22:39] <herpy> with*
[22:40] <herpy> like if I do it it won't download ubuntu insted of lubuntu?
[22:40] <pAt> nnah herpy
[22:40] <Unit193> Hasn't on me yet, any of the times.
[22:40] <herpy> Just checking
[22:40] <herpy> I like that feature, saves me disks
[22:41] <Skater-AOA150> Lubuntu is pretty much compatible with any ubuntu
[22:41] <herpy> I know that
[22:41] <Skater-AOA150> The main difference is LXDE
[22:41] <herpy> true
[22:42] <herpy> Just wanted to know that if I used the Update Manager that if it would install ubuntu insted of lubuntu
[22:42] <Skater-AOA150> Lol, my lubuntu GRUB says Debian the universal OS. :P
[22:43] <herpy> lol
[22:43] <Skater-AOA150> probably because I installed Gnome on it
[22:43] <herpy> I do not duel boot, just booting lubuntu
[22:44] <herpy> that happened on me when I installed Gnome on Ultimate Edition 3.0 gamers
[22:44] <Skater-AOA150> ah lol
[22:44] <herpy> I do not like gnome, too recource hungry for me
[23:09] <n-iCe> hi just burned and booted from lubuntu alternate
[23:09] <n-iCe> but says: this kernel requires the following features not presen on the cpu: cmov
[23:09] <n-iCe> what's that
[23:12] <wxl> n-iCe: hate to say it but you might be upa  creek without a paddle http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1595646
[23:12] <n-iCe> I was reading that
[23:13] <n-iCe> so, I cannot use lubuntu in that pc?
[23:14] <wxl> sounds like you can't use any ubuntu at all
[23:14] <wxl> maybe no debian derivates at all :O
[23:14] <wxl> you could use an older version
[23:15] <wxl> or cross-compile your own kernel
[23:16] <wxl> try 10.04 http://lubuntu.net/blog/lubuntu-1004-now-available-download
[23:17] <n-iCe> oh no
[23:17] <n-iCe> I will keep XP then
[23:17] <n-iCe> Lees problems
[23:17] <n-iCe> Less
[23:17] <n-iCe> that's sad
[23:17] <n-iCe> thanks anyway
[23:17] <wxl> more malware
[23:18] <wxl> i'm sure there are other distros that have it
[23:18] <wxl> ok talking to mysel
[23:33] <herpy> XD


[06:26] <xnox> please ban Partybot1 from #ubuntu-release-party
[06:26] <xnox> and the like who continuously publishes "IT'S OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, wait, did I miss something?"
[06:31] <Tm_T> xnox: why?
[06:31] <Tm_T> IdleOne: I'm unsure if party is actually over yet
[06:31] <Tm_T> see release parties in http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/
[06:32] <IdleOne> we keep the channel open for all those parties?
[06:32] <Tm_T> I don't know
[06:32] <Tm_T> that's why I said I'm unsure
[06:32] <Tm_T> I think we never had any consistency on that
[06:33] <IdleOne> well, we need to set in place some protocols before the subnet can be attached to the node
[06:33] <IdleOne> :P
[06:35] <Tm_T> I don't see any harm on keeping the channel open for a week after the release anyway
[06:35] <Tm_T> if someone doesn't feel like partying the whole week they can leave the channel (;
[06:36] <IdleOne> good point
[13:28] <jussi> !info kubuntu-desktop
[13:28] <ubot2> 'maverick' is not a valid distribution:
[14:34] <Nafallo> ehrm
[14:34] <Nafallo> jpds ^--
[14:34] <Nafallo> alt. how do I fix that? :-P
[16:59] <xnox> Tm_T: spamming / unauthorized bot?!
[16:59] <xnox> Tm_T: the channel is always open, it's just that user is spamming it.....
[17:11] <tsimpson> xnox: PartyBot1 is not unauthorized, the hit is that it has +o and has a ubuntu/bot/partybot cloak ;)
[17:16] <xnox> *sigh*
[18:09] <Tm_T> zoktar: it's not spamming
[18:09] <Tm_T> xnox: even
[18:11] <Unit193> Nafallo: If you can find the ubot2 data dir, it should have an aptdir under that, untar http://unit193.tk/sources.list.tar.xz there and if you have crontab setup to autorun the scripts that update from the lists, all you'd have to do now is update the config in the bot.
[18:12] <Unit193> tsimpson: Did you have a script to output the curStable config?  (I do it manually, haven't created it yet.)


[15:02] <nigelb> daker: we're on soonish!
[15:03] <daker> nigelb, yo are you on 			    {% if hit.pochette %}
[15:03] <daker> 			        {% if hit.pochette == 'http://static.hitradio.ma/uploads/pochettes/no_cover.jpg' %}
[15:03] <daker>
[15:03] <daker> 			        {% else %}
[15:03] <daker>
[15:03] <daker>                     {% endif %}
[15:03] <daker>                 {% else %}
[15:03] <daker>
[15:03] <daker>                 {% endif %}
[15:03] <daker> opps sorry :/
[15:03] <nigelb> heh
[15:08] <cjohnston> daker: are you in #ubuntu-uds-bonaire3
[15:08] <cjohnston> and listening
[18:24] <cjohnston> AlanBell: why dont we move the convo in here
[18:27] <AlanBell> hi
[18:27] <AlanBell> nigelb: o/
[18:28] <cjohnston> he went to bed
[18:28] <AlanBell> fair enough
[18:29] <AlanBell> so there are a bunch of things to do to get etherpad lite up and running and themed and sso integrated to plug into summit
[18:29] <AlanBell> summit itself won't care much
[18:30] <AlanBell> but there is a list of things to do
[18:30] <cjohnston> ok
[18:30] <AlanBell> and me and nigelb can just trundle off and do stuff
[18:30] <AlanBell> or we can be working to a list of action items on a blueprint discussed at UDS :)
[18:31] <AlanBell> which might help when asking IS to deploy stuff
[18:31] <AlanBell> so I was expecting some discussion of it at the summit development session
[18:31] <AlanBell> I totally get that it isn't core to summit
[18:31] <cjohnston> i think it may be better for an meeting after uds
[18:32] <AlanBell> although it is pretty core to the user experience
[18:33] <AlanBell> by which I mean all the users think that etherpad is part of summit
[18:33] <cjohnston> i dont know enough about etherpad to be valuable in coming up with to-dos
[18:36] <AlanBell> thats fine
[18:39] <cjohnston> I'm fine with you and IS handling it, and just keepig us posed
[18:40] <cjohnston> posted
[20:38] <svwilliams> Does anyone have a second to help me run make init for loco-portal?  I'm getting an interesting error about ImportError: No module named django.core.management
[20:38] <svwilliams> someone said at the morning uds session that the team was on this channel
[20:47] <cjohnston> hey svwilliams
[20:47] <svwilliams> hey cjohnston
[20:48] <cjohnston> svwilliams: are you at uds?
[20:48] <svwilliams> yup, in antigua3(?) at the papercuts session
[20:49] <cjohnston> im out doing a little work right now
[20:49] <cjohnston> did you do the sudo make depends?
[20:50] <svwilliams> yup no errors
[20:51] <svwilliams> my python version is 2.7.2+
[20:52] <svwilliams> don't know if that is part of the problem, python is new to me
[20:52] <cjohnston> what version of ubuntu are you running
[20:52] <svwilliams> oneric
[20:52] <svwilliams> on a vm ...
[20:56] <svwilliams> ok silly question do I have to install django seperately is it not in the depends?
[20:57] <cjohnston> it should install from the requirements.txt
[20:58] <svwilliams> ok I may have missed a step I need to make sure each of these items are installed before I run make depend?
[20:59] <cjohnston> should be sudo make depends, make init
[21:00] <svwilliams> hmm I don't know
[21:00] <svwilliams>  python2.6 python2.6-dev python-virtualenv libjs-jquery libjs-jquery-ui iso-codes gettext
[21:00] <svwilliams> thats what make depends runs
[21:00] <svwilliams> brb moving rooms
[21:01] <cjohnston> ya.. you need 2.6
[21:02] <mhall119> python2.6 can be installed alongside python2.7
[21:02] <mhall119> it'll only be used by the virtualenv that is created for running django locally, so that it is as close to our production environment as we can get without having to run Lucid ourselves
[21:17] <svwilliams> cjohnston, does this error look familiar  --  "make: *** [loco_directory/loco_directory.db] Error 1"
[21:22] <svwilliams> ok never mind that was just make standard error
[21:23] <cjohnston> when did you get that
[21:24] <svwilliams> its the last line in the error
[21:24] <cjohnston> no.. what command
[21:24] <svwilliams> the line above it is ImportError: no module named djgango.core.management
[21:24] <svwilliams> If I go into loco-directory
[21:24] <cjohnston> hmm
[21:24] <svwilliams> type python
[21:25] <cjohnston> i just got that
[21:25] <svwilliams> and say import dijango
[21:25] <svwilliams> it says no module
[21:25] <svwilliams> :-)
[21:25] <svwilliams> could be django is installed on a python library that is not running when make runs?
[21:25] <svwilliams> still new so I'm trying to apply what I know to this
[21:26] <cjohnston> you installed python2.6 correct?
[21:26] <svwilliams> yes, but its not the one running ... 2.7.2+ when you say python --version
[21:26] <svwilliams> hmmm
[21:28] <cjohnston> svwilliams: right now im tryin to do some other stuff.. maybe if mhall119 comes around he will have a quick answer
[21:29] <svwilliams> ok sounds good I'll keep at it till then stay on irc
[21:37] <mhall119> svwilliams: try make clean, then make init again
[21:37] <mhall119> often if a make command dies in the middle, you need to cleanup after it before trying again
[21:38] <mhall119> svwilliams: make will create a virtualenv directory, where it will install django and a link to python2.6
[21:38] <mhall119> which is why just running "python" gives you 2.7 and no django
[21:39] <mhall119> virtualenv keeps your system clean
[21:39] <svwilliams> ahh ok
[21:39] <svwilliams> make sense
[21:39] <mhall119> virtualenv is to python what chroot is to shell
[21:42] <svwilliams> I have to run maven2 clean all the time for java sites
[21:42] <svwilliams> its running now, no errors so far
[21:42] <svwilliams> at python-openid
[21:42] <svwilliams> ok so far I think I'm just having download issues
[21:42] <svwilliams> just errored on urlopen error
[21:42] <svwilliams> I mean
[21:42] <svwilliams> errored on python-openid
[21:56] <svwilliams> thank you mhall119 i'm nearly there just need to figure out why openid won't download I'll try to figure it out later today


[14:48] <LjL> hello, i'd like to write a page about DICT based dictionaries setup (remote and local, GNOME and KDE clients, etc). should i use the page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dictionary - which is very skeletal at the moment, but seems to have been intended about the standard GNOME Dictionary program only - or make a separate one?
[17:55] <mdke> LjL: that sounds appropriate to me