[00:00] <mindrape> ...
[00:00] <mindrape> this place is always dead.
[00:00] <urlin2u> robotti^_, you want the sdc in the bios firat read
[00:00] <robotti^_> urlin2u: what you mean? firat?
[00:00] <Free-man> first
[00:01] <urlin2u> mindrape, change your nic please this is a family friendly channel
[00:01] <robotti^_> oka
[00:01] <dmkae> urlin2u, then wubi cannot be installed on d:\?
[00:01] <mindrape> urlin2u - how is my name offensive?  http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mindrape
[00:01] <mindrape> you can /kb me if you like.
[00:01] <mindrape> my name isn't offensive and if you feel it is you are asinine.
[00:01] <BuMpIc> jose33_Spaniard, this is high for me:D i will learn it later
[00:01] <urlin2u> robotti^_, first in the bios means sdcat the top of the list.
[00:02] <qmr> yea, can everyone get over themselves?  I don't care about his name
[00:02] <robotti^_> urlin2u: Okay!
[00:02] <urlin2u> mindrape, if it has to be explained your not worth dealing with.
[00:02] <jose33_Spaniard> BuMpIc, you just have to type it, man !!
[00:02] <qmr> does anyone know how to make nautilus not have so much whitespace between image files?  it's using a HUGE amoutn of whitespace... wasted space
[00:02] <BuMpIc> jose33_Spaniard, i typed it
[00:03] <mindrape> urlin2u - then ban away if you must.  What has to be explained is your psychotic need to be overly protective.  The word rape isn't even offensive except in some contexts.    Well that is how I am feeling right now... rapist.
[00:03] <jose33_Spaniard> and did you see a new directory??
[00:03] <urlin2u> robotti^_, that is the least of your problems you are missing the files I posted and having grub in the sdc mbr
[00:04] <BuMpIc> jose33_Spaniard, sht:D lokks like i typed the directory name
[00:04] <notlistening> oh it is surprising people come looking for a fight even in a help room :D
[00:04] <KNUBBIG> hey, is it possible to allow ssh login only to some users depending on the network they're from, e.g. allow some users to connect only from LAN but others from WAN and LAN?
[00:05] <bluelamp> rape (v.)   late 14c., "seize prey, take by force,"
[00:05] <jose33_Spaniard> yeah, because the directory has been created
[00:05] <urlin2u> nothingspecial, cognitive problems :)
[00:05] <Danny_Joris> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu in a Guest VM and I'm trying to get ssh and ftp access from my Host to my Guest. Do I do this using openSSH?
[00:05] <KNUBBIG> Danny_Joris: yes
[00:05] <mindrape> bluelamp - welcome to the police state of #ubuntu... thinking isn't illegal... YET.
[00:05] <BuMpIc> jose33_Spaniard, but this is how we have to run it?
[00:05] <notlistening> KNUBBIG, yes it is very possible
[00:05] <BuMpIc> jose33_Spaniard, theres no easier way?
[00:05] <rodhash> Guys.. Pls, how can I see the exact amount of memory in use by a specific process? 'ps aux' shows up just the percentage..
[00:06] <KNUBBIG> notlistening: any tutorial or somewhere to look how to achieve that?
[00:06] <jose33_Spaniard> ni, but it's the first step
[00:06] <bastidrazor> rodhash: use 'top'
[00:06] <notlistening> Danny_Joris, best not to use NAT though !!
[00:06] <jose33_Spaniard> now, enter in that directory
[00:06] <Danny_Joris> KNUBBIG: thanks. So.. I'm reading https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html . Do I install open-ssh client or open-ssh server?
[00:06] <Danny_Joris> notlistening: thanks. I'm using 2 adapters: NAT and Host-Only..
[00:06] <bastidrazor> rodhash: you can't convert percentage to an actual number?
[00:06] <KNUBBIG> Danny_Joris: on the machine you want to acces openssh-server
[00:06] <urlin2u> robotti^_, the #windows channel might be best to fix the windows problem, just a suggestion, if you don't know how. :D
[00:06] <robotti^_> urlin2u: I changed it
[00:07] <notlistening> KNUBBIG, are you planning to allow access to the WAN? You should look a RSA certificates for authentication
[00:07] <robotti^_> urlin2u: And there is no grub menu
[00:07] <jose33_Spaniard> rodhash, what about ps -ef ??
[00:07] <coz_> rodhash,  mm  maybe pmap pid    example   pmap 3724
[00:07] <KNUBBIG> notlistening: yes the machine shall have WAN access
[00:07] <robotti^_> urlin2u: problem is, that there is no grub menu
[00:07] <urlin2u> robotti^_, that is the least of your problems you are missing the files I posted and having grub in the sdc mbr
[00:07] <Newbuntu2> hello
[00:07] <robotti^_> urlin2u: should I re-install ubuntu
[00:07] <jpapertowels> ok natty live amd64 can't install grub to intel fakeraid? :(
[00:07] <Newbuntu2> I'm using the avermedia linux drivers for C038, but when I launch VLC and try to open /dev/video0, nothing happens.... can anyone help?
[00:08] <Danny_Joris> KNUBBIG: thanks. So I won't need the client? My host is Vista and I'm planning to use Putty.
[00:08] <KNUBBIG> Danny_Joris: no then you won't need the client
[00:08] <BuMpIc> bb all
[00:08] <Danny_Joris> KNUBBIG++
[00:08] <Danny_Joris> thanks
[00:08] <KNUBBIG> np
[00:08] <rodhash> Oh I found, it's RSS from 'ps aux'!!! FYI !! \o/
[00:08] <coz_> rodhash,  maybe install htop
[00:08] <urlin2u> robotti^_, no your problem is missing this in sdc1 /bootmgr /Boot/BCD,  and grub in the sdc master boot record
[00:09] <urlin2u> robotti^_, and the boot flag on sdc1
[00:09] <bluelamp> mindrape, why did you choose this term for your nick ?
[00:09] <qmr> http://i.imgur.com/STVNd.png  wtf is with whitespace?
[00:09] <robotti^_> urlin2u: should I re-install windows?
[00:09] <notlistening> KNUBBIG, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys for keys
[00:09] <KNUBBIG> notlistening: thanks
[00:09] <qmr> there is very nearly more whtiespace than images
[00:10] <urlin2u> robotti^_, no go to the #windows channel have them help you get those files in, then put grub in the sdc mbr
[00:10] <jose33_Spaniard> mindrape, why dont you explain it on a public board?? :)
[00:10] <jpapertowels> cute cat qmr
[00:10] <qmr> jpapertowels: <3
[00:10] <alex--> Can I use Ubuntu Tweak or is it dangerous?
[00:10] <urlin2u> robotti^_, a reinstall to that sdc1 partition would fix this but not really needed, unless that is easier for you.
[00:11] <bastidrazor> alex--: you can use it, yes. it makes configuring certain things easier. it is not official but is effective.
[00:11]  * bluelamp does not find mindrapes nick offensive.
[00:11] <KNUBBIG> notlistening: if I get it right, this requires that I only log in from the same pc with the same user all the time, aight?
[00:11] <Gentoo64> alex--, its not dangerous
[00:11] <alex--> Ok
[00:11] <robotti^_> urlin2u: sdc is my primary drive. it is ssd. there is ubuntu and windows
[00:11] <alex--> System janitor was dangerous right?
[00:11] <notlistening> KNUBBIG, this is not ubuntu specific but applies to any ssh enabled machine on the WAN http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Network/SecuringSSH
[00:11] <urlin2u> alex--, not generally depends on how you use it.
[00:11] <bluelamp> mindrape, why did you choose this term for your nick ?
[00:11] <alex--> urlin2u: chaning the logo on the login page
[00:11] <bastidrazor> alex--: when you don't understand what the janitor wants to remove yes. otherwise no
[00:12] <urlin2u> alex--, any app is it is amatter of understanding
[00:12] <alex--> Ah
[00:12] <alex--> yes
[00:12] <KNUBBIG> notlistening: correct, but as the machine I want to log in to is running Ubuntu I thought I might ask here
[00:12] <Free-man> i get it, a mind rape is what police do to harrass someone who is not doing anything to earn their abuse.
[00:12] <bluelamp> why does xchat-gnome not have a user list ?
[00:12] <jose33_Spaniard> bluelamp, he explained it some minutes ago.
[00:12] <alex--> Is there any way I can download all Ubuntu wallpapers of the last years (9.04 - 11.10) ?
[00:13] <urlin2u> alex--, in 11.04 I don't thonk the login page is changeable from the tweak I can't get it to work.
[00:13] <bluelamp> oh, thanks jose33_Spaniard
[00:13] <bastidrazor> bluelamp: its a bastardization of xchat. xchat is far better
[00:13] <alex--> urlin2u: I meant the logo and the background
[00:13] <jose33_Spaniard> he's not dangerous.
[00:13] <notlistening> KNUBBIG, i was talking about the website link i gave you not your questions, your questions are just fine keep asking away
[00:14] <bluelamp> oh, thanks basti
[00:14] <KNUBBIG> notlistening: ah okay, thank you :-)
[00:14] <urlin2u> jose33_Spaniard, a narcissistic explanation and way of communicating, s the norm with that user.
[00:14] <anth0ny> ok, so I installed Python 2.7 on my Linux 10.04 system.  Is there a way to make it so that Python2.7 is the default Python used? I'm using an application framework based on Python and it's still using 2.6.  Additionally, it would be cool if typing Python took me to the Python2.7 terminal instead of the 2.6.  Any ideas?
[00:14] <robotti^_> urlin2u: I do not understand, what I have done wrong.
[00:15] <robotti^_> urlin2u: it is biggest problem
[00:15] <qmr> anth0ny: alias / symlink
[00:15] <bluelamp> i did not see it, nor did i see it in scroll back though.
[00:15] <urlin2u> robotti^_, you have a windows problem go to #windows post the script and they will help you
[00:15] <jpapertowels> creative sb titanium hd still not supported in ubuntu? :( keep getting ctxfi: Something wrong!! on boot
[00:15] <dmkae> this is dissapointing
[00:15] <dmkae> i cant get ubuntu running :(
[00:15] <Free-man> anth0ny remove older pythongs installed.
[00:15] <dmkae> with wubi
[00:16] <robotti^_> urlin2u: I removed my other windows hdd
[00:16] <bluelamp> what would be the most useful irc client for linux bastidrazor ?
[00:16] <urlin2u> robotti^_, sorry ##windows
[00:16] <robotti^_> it might be reason
[00:16] <robotti^_> ok
[00:16] <urlin2u> robotti^_, yes if it had part of the windows boot that makes sense
[00:16] <dmkae> i added the wubildr line in boot.ini
[00:16] <dmkae> is that ok?
[00:16] <Gentoo64> bluelamp, i like xchat the best
[00:17] <notlistening> seconds Gentoo64
[00:17] <anth0ny> Free-man, I've heard that's a bad idea, could break Ubuntu, no?
[00:17] <urlin2u> dmkae, hardly anybody here uses wubi, you will probably get answers in that thread if you post the boot script.
[00:17] <dmkae> how do i get the boot script, if i cant even get to ubuntu
[00:17] <Free-man> anth0ny do it properly; it's called `a clean system' :)
[00:18] <qmr> bluelamp: irssi
[00:18] <bastidrazor> bluelamp: i like irssi which is cli only. xchat for GUI
[00:18] <robotti^_> urlin2u: there was always windows boot manager and two different windows7 installations
[00:18] <robotti^_> and I removed that hdd.
[00:18] <urlin2u> dmkae, it is here, all you have to do is have a live ubuntu cd. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[00:18] <robotti^_> now I cannot boot it
[00:18] <robotti^_> okay
[00:18] <robotti^_> now I understand
[00:18] <anth0ny> Free-man, how does one do that properly?  isn't 10.04 dependent on Python 2.6?
[00:19] <triunity> test
[00:19] <ZAHH> irssi over here
[00:19] <urlin2u> robotti^_, right and it is not a ubuntu problem it is a windows one go to there channel and get it fixed.
[00:19] <Free-man> anth0ny do an upgrade instead of just an install
[00:19] <urlin2u> their
[00:19] <earl2hol23> irssi is sexy
[00:19] <Gentoo64> its gay
[00:20] <bazhang> thats enough
[00:20] <earl2hol23> me too
[00:20] <ArseneRei> Should ubuntu have an xorg config by default?
[00:20] <bazhang> ArseneRei, no
[00:20] <Gentoo64> ArseneRei, i dont think so
[00:20] <bastidrazor> ArseneRei: no but if you create one it will use it
[00:20] <notlistening> ArseneRei, depends on the version
[00:20] <earl2hol23> ahhh rape me
[00:20] <urlin2u> robotti^_, the best helpers there are dual booting linux, or know it quite well.
[00:20] <bazhang> earl2hol23, stop that
[00:21] <bazhang> !guidelines > earl2hol23
[00:21] <earl2hol23> maybe later
[00:21] <ArseneRei> Well, I'm trying to resolve a graphics driver issue with my macbook. And in the ubuntu wiki it says to set the driver in xorg.conf to intel, so I was wondering if a macbook install would.
[00:21] <ZAHH> play nice boys.
[00:21] <jose33_Spaniard> bye, everyone :)
[00:22] <bazhang> ZAHH, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:22] <earl2hol23> bazhang: dont be a jerk.
[00:22] <happygolucky> ArseneRei: I don't think xserver has an xorg.conf anymore but there is definitely an xorg channel
[00:22] <anth0ny> Free-man, so, you're talking about upgrading my OS to 11.04 or is this different?  it would just upgrade python?
[00:23] <ArseneRei> happygolucky: Alright, thanks.
[00:23] <Free-man> anth0ny not necesarily; you can upgrade just a package
[00:23] <scx> hello
[00:23] <bluelamp> yeah, this is better
[00:23] <notlistening> ArseneRei, the location of the files have changes 10.04 upwards you need to different parts of the xorg config in different files now
[00:24] <earl2hol23> I just entered one last time to say
[00:24] <earl2hol23> Fuck you bazhang
[00:24] <scx> what is equivalent of gnome-appearance-properties for gtk+3 apps?
[00:24] <earl2hol23> thats all
[00:24] <FloodBot1> earl2hol23: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:24] <urlin2u> 54321
[00:24] <scx> how to change gtk+3 style in GNOME2?
[00:25] <alex--> Where is alt + printscreen + k in ubuntu 11.04 ?
[00:26] <urlin2u> alex--, what does that do?
[00:26] <ZAHH> Well that got ugly.
[00:26] <alex--> urlin2u: logs you out
[00:27] <bastidrazor> urlin2u: alex-- it restarts X
[00:28] <alex--> It's some kind of tool that lets you logout when everyhing is broken
[00:28] <urlin2u> bastidrazor, ah thanks.
[00:28] <Perdidonline> Hi people!
[00:29] <jpapertowels> damn well im in a bit of a dilemma, my hardware is too new for ubuntu so i have to go back to windows as usual except i broke the bootloader and have no cd to restore it :|
[00:29] <Perdidonline> My name is Rafa... I'm from Brazil!!! Go Spiderrrrrr
[00:29] <alex--> Perdidonline: where the fack are you talking about?
[00:29] <desti> what hardware is too new?
[00:29] <Perdidonline> UFC-Rio kkkkk
[00:29] <urlin2u> jpapertowels, you have a live ubuntu cd
[00:29] <bazhang> Perdidonline, this is ubuntu support; have a support question?
[00:29] <alex--> jpapertowels: when did you bought your hardware?
[00:30] <Perdidonline> No... its my first time on IRC
[00:30] <jpapertowels> alex--: i bought it a month ago maybe...titanium hd soundcard, sli gtx 590 gfx, i7-990x, etc
[00:30] <Perdidonline> and my english is bad....
[00:30] <bazhang> Perdidonline, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat NOT here
[00:30] <alex--> jpapertowels: And which components don't do work?
[00:30] <alex--> Because it can't be that nothing works
[00:30] <scx> how to change style of gtk+3 application in GNOME 2?
[00:31] <Perdidonline> Ahhh ok...  sorry
[00:31] <jpapertowels> alex--:  titanium hd mainly, also my intel fakeraid doesnt work with natty though does work with oneiric
[00:31] <desti> soundcard is a creative? will never work, creative just suxx
[00:31] <urlin2u> jpapertowels, you can put lilo in the mbr it boots windows
[00:32] <jpapertowels> urlin2u: i formatted my usb drive with ubuntu live on it to put winpe on it to restore bootloader but now everything i open on ubuntu live crashes so i cant extract the winpe iso to it xD
[00:32] <alex--> Shotwell updates with nested tags, bmp support and more. You can install it by downloading it from the editors site, or add their PPA. Why isn't this new version included in 11.04 software center?
[00:33] <NS_tech> what is the command to remove a directory and its contents?   i have been using sudo rmdir -r (directory)
[00:33] <illunatic> http://blog.greenpirate.org/anonymous-persuades-gays-to-swing-the-other-way/
[00:33] <desti> rm -Rv
[00:33] <bastidrazor> NS_tech: rm -rf directory
[00:33] <alex--> illunatic: #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:33] <jpapertowels> desti: creative soundblaster hardware is great, their drivers suck, but not many soundcard manufacturer creates linux drivers anyway it would have to be the ctxfi linux driver makers that suck no offense if theyre reading this :3
[00:33] <bazhang> illunatic, dont spam here
[00:34] <alex--> NS_tech: sudo rm -R (directory) as far as I know
[00:34] <alex--> I can be mistaking, that you have to type r
[00:34] <bastidrazor> NS_tech: -r is for recursive -f is for force so that it doesn't ask you to verify every file
[00:34] <illunatic> sorry totally the wrong channel
[00:34] <illunatic> i genuinely did not mean to
[00:34] <kwtm> Does Ubuntu now have the feature where a laptop can be suspended to RAM, and then if not used within a certain amount of time (say half an hour) it then suspends to disk to save battery life?
[00:34] <dmkae> anyone here develop ?
[00:34] <illunatic> i just /win c some on irssi xD
[00:34] <illunatic> alex--: thanks tho
[00:35] <urlin2u> kwtm, never heard of one.
[00:35] <alex--> kwtm: Suspended to RAM = stand-by
[00:35] <NS_tech> thanks.  sudo rm -rf (directory) worked
[00:36] <notlistening> illunatic, grow up
[00:36] <illunatic> excuse me?
[00:36] <illunatic> #ubuntu-offtopic, sir
[00:36] <bastidrazor> NS_tech: you're welcome
[00:37] <jamiewan> NS_tech: care is needed with the rm -rf command, its very close to wiping your file system if you make a certain error
[00:37] <desti> jpapertowels, how should they make drivers, when creative doesn't give them documentation about their chips, also when you buy the card, you pay to creative and so it's their job to make drivers
[00:37] <kwtm> alex--: Not sure of your point.  For the record, I agree that suspended to RAM = stand-by.  Does Ubuntu have the feature of hibernation after a certain amount of time in standby?
[00:37] <illunatic> well if you read the whole thing it's actually a bit more baalanced than most things i write
[00:38] <alex--> kwtm: This would be a BIOS feature if it exists. As far as I know Ubuntu doesn't haves a feature like this.
[00:38] <illunatic> i'm from san francisco and definitely familiar with where the gay community is coming from on this
[00:38] <alex--> illunatic: what do you mean?
[00:38] <NS_tech> Jamiewan: what do i need to watch out for?
[00:39] <illunatic> oh sorry i guess they kicked me from offtopic
[00:39]  * illunatic shrugs
[00:39] <alex--> NS_tech: If you type / as directory, it doesn't asks you something like: are you sure?
[00:39] <jamiewan> NS_tech: well sudo rm -rf / is not a good idea, kind of completely breaks ya system
[00:39] <kwtm> alex--: Really? I have a winXP laptop dualbooting into Kubuntu, and the WinXP is able to suspend from RAM to disk, but Kubuntu 10.04 does not, which is what's preventing me from using Kubuntu for daily use.   It seems more like a OS issue than BIOS --how is the BIOS able to suspend to disk from RAM?
[00:40] <alex--> kwtm: how do you do that, suspend from ram to disk?
[00:40] <notlistening> jamiewan, Ubuntu does not allow you to do that :D
[00:40] <illunatic> i'm not sure why i was banned from offtopic, but w/e
[00:40] <notlistening> jamiemill, you have to be creative
[00:41] <jamiewan> NS_tech: nothingspecial it certainly does when i've used it,
[00:41] <kiko_> ola
[00:41] <notlistening> jamiemill, when did you last try it
[00:41] <notlistening> jamiewan, specifically on ubuntu now
[00:42] <jamiewan> notlistening: used it last week to wipe an old box running jaunty
[00:42] <kiko_> alguem fala portugue
[00:42] <alex--> kiko_: #ubuntu-pe
[00:42] <alex--> Shotwell updates with nested tags, bmp support and more. You can install it by downloading it from the editors site, or add their PPA. Why isn't this new version included in 11.04 software center?
[00:42] <bastidrazor> illunatic: did you read the topic in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[00:43] <notlistening> jamiewan, well i stand corrected then
[00:43] <coinmaster> hi, does someone know how to install libgtk2.0 on lucid ?
[00:44] <coinmaster> the aptitude method dnt work
[00:45] <notlistening> there was a period where they modifed the rm command to disallow that
[00:45] <jamiewan> nothingspecial: yeah all that was left was /dev /proc /var
[00:45] <jamiewan> sorry
[00:45] <jamiewan> notlistening: : yeah all that was left was /dev /proc /var
[00:46] <usr_> what command will let me know which devices are attached to the network where I am currently connected?
[00:46] <usr_> net
[00:47] <HeGuru> usr_ nmap & nmapfe
[00:47] <BlueEagle> usr_: Well that depends on the kind of devices, firewalls and so on. nmap would most likely fit any bill.
[00:47] <jamiewan> usr_:  nmap then your ip, but leave the last number off and put a /24
[00:47] <EzeQL> hi all
[00:48] <EzeQL> im installing ubuntu in the same hd as win7
[00:48] <BlueEagle> !enter | EzeQL
[00:48] <urlin2u> EzeQL, cool, are you familiar with partition amount lintations
[00:48] <urlin2u> limitations
[00:49] <EzeQL> i have 100G free for installating ubuntu
[00:49] <coinmaster> ezeQL: yes you can do that , ubuntu will repartition your windows7 partition
[00:49] <EzeQL> i do not want to use automatic partition
[00:49] <happygolucky> i'm finding out all sorts of useful tid bits about keyboard shortcuts in ubuntu that i never knew existed. for instance i've been use the less command to look at large documents in terminal but I could have just hit shift+page up. Interesting to me
[00:49] <urlin2u> EzeQL, how many other partitions do you have as seen from linux
[00:49] <EzeQL> two ntfs, one fat32 for sharing files between both os
[00:50] <BlueEagle> EzeQL: Linux' ntfs-support is now stable.
[00:50] <EzeQL> didnt know that, ty BlueEagle
[00:50] <blognewb> hi
[00:50] <urlin2u> EzeQL, cool if that is correct as 4 primaries is the limit the 100 gig should be a extended type, and the one inside xt4 and a swap
[00:50] <urlin2u> ones
[00:51] <urlin2u> ext4*
[00:51] <EzeQL> how much percentage of the ext4 size should be used as swap?
[00:51] <blognewb> hello.. im trying to install lubuntu.. can i still give it more space later on once i have partitioned my hd to alot 40gb for lubuntu?
[00:52] <bastidrazor> EzeQL: it should be equal to your RAM.
[00:52] <robotti^> how I can access grub menu?
[00:52] <urlin2u> EzeQL, a swap which will be inside of the extended is equal to your ram to have hibernate.
[00:52] <jamiewan> EzeQL: same as ya ram mate
[00:52] <LoRd_UnDeRwOrLd> hi where does ff save the .flv files from youtube? before they were temporary saved in /tmp and then to .mozilla/firefox/username/cache but now they are neither in the first folder nor in the last one. where can i find them? thank u - ubuntu10.10 - ff3 - gnome
[00:52] <notlistening> 2x ram size is a good idea
[00:52] <BlueEagle> robotti^: If the grub menu does not show while booting try pressing the escape key.
[00:52] <notlistening> depends on ram size
[00:52] <urlin2u> EzeQL, the extended is a partion to put the ext type and swap in.
[00:52] <bastidrazor> robotti^: during boot? press and hold shift after POST
[00:53] <blognewb> once ive set 40gb of hd for lubuntu, can i still adjust it and expand it later on?
[00:53] <BlueEagle> robotti^: If you want to change the timeouts and such check your grub configuration
[00:53] <bastidrazor> BlueEagle: shift key
[00:53] <bastidrazor> err.. it may be ctrl..
[00:53] <urlin2u> robotti^, why are you erasing grub?
[00:54] <BlueEagle> urlin2u: is he erasing grub?
[00:54] <urlin2u> robotti^, sory not erasing, your problem is not in grub.
[00:55] <alex--> Shotwell updates with nested tags, bmp support and more. You can install it by downloading it from the editors site, or add their PPA. Why isn't this new version included in 11.04 software center?
[00:55] <urlin2u> BlueEagle, no but is searching for fixes that are not applicable, as the ones needed may not be understood.
[00:55] <BlueEagle> alex--: Because it has not been sufficiently tested in Ubuntu and signed off as stable?
[00:55] <alex--> BlueEagle: so when it's stable it goes to software center?
[00:56] <BlueEagle> The repositories are continously upgraded. Make sure you have the back ports repo active.
[00:57] <alex--> repo?
[00:57] <notlistening> Right night all
[00:57] <BlueEagle> repository
[00:57] <BlueEagle> !repositories
[00:57] <alex--> How long should it take to resize a partition from 141 GB to 110 GB ?
[00:58] <jamiewan> alex--ything from 1minute to 5: an
[00:58] <BlueEagle> alex--: It depends on the speed of the media, the file system being resized (if any) and the amount of data in the file system.
[00:58] <alex--> 96 GB used
[00:59] <alex--> Ah it's done now :)
[00:59] <BlueEagle> ...and the speed of the processor and what other processes are running, any other disk activity needs to be taken into account.
[00:59] <jamiewan> come on, a couple minutes would be accurate enuf
[00:59] <alex--> Ok
[00:59] <BlueEagle> jamiewan: It would be as pointless as the question imo. :)
[00:59] <alex--> What do you recommend for Ubuntu 11.04 install, 20 or 30 GB?
[01:00] <jamiewan> BlueEagle: true but he just wants a rough idea i think,
[01:00] <BlueEagle> alex--: Again, it would depend on the usage scenario. If you're just starting to get to know it 20GB is plenty. If you run big databases and web sites 30GB may be too little.
[01:01] <alex--> starting to know
[01:01] <alex--> I used ubuntu before, but I want to use things like shotwell now
[01:01] <BlueEagle> 20GB should be plenty.
[01:01] <alex--> Ok
[01:02] <BlueEagle> that is unles you've got more than 20GB of images you intend to use with Shotwell. ;)
[01:02] <alex--> No
[01:02] <alex--> It's not possible to create more than 4 primary partitions
[01:02] <kwtm> alex--: I'll tell you how I do it; it might help.  I assign 8GB to my Ubuntu partition, but all my data is in a separate partition which at least 100GB in size (my biggest is 1.2TB).   So I'd estimate 8GB + whatever data you need.
[01:03] <alex--> I have dual boot in a laptop with 120 gb hdd
[01:04] <kwtm> as for resizing, if you have to move a lot of data, it can take a long time.  For example, removing 31 GB from the end of the partition, if it's empty, may be fast.  Removing 31 GB from the front of the partition, and maybe having to shift almost all of the files to make room, may take "overnight".  I've done it before and it took about 5 hours.
[01:04] <Danny_Joris> I have an issue restarting openssh. I did: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart, but I get a message that I have to use 'service ssh restart'
[01:05] <Danny_Joris> but that returns an error as well..
[01:05] <blognewb> hi guys... once ive set 40gb of hd for lubuntu, can i still adjust it and expand it later on?
[01:05] <Danny_Joris> So: how do I restart openssh?
[01:05] <alex--> Danny_Joris: then do sudo service ssh restart
[01:05] <kwtm> alex--: If you know how to do it, I suggest Ubuntu itself in a smaller partition of, say, 8-10GB, then another partition of 8-10GB in case you want another OS (like the next higher version of ubuntu) and then the rest is data.
[01:05] <bazhang> blognewb, dynamically? no
[01:05] <Danny_Joris> ah
[01:05] <alex--> Danny_Joris: just like it says
[01:05] <kwtm> blognewb: Hi!  We were just talking about that in my sentence I typed right after you asked.
[01:05] <bazhang> blognewb, with a live cd or gparted live cd, yes
[01:06] <kwtm> You know, I should put that into a macro and then I would save some time. :)
[01:06] <alex--> I can't create more than 4 primary partitions. Why?
[01:06] <kwtm> alex--: That is the system that has been agreed to for disk partitions.  Nor do you need to create more than 4 partitions.  You only need 2.
[01:06] <bazhang> !partition > alex--
[01:06] <kwtm> alex--: Within a parti -- oh
[01:06] <kwtm> Can I get to know what the !partition factoid is, too?
[01:06] <blognewb> kwtm so yes? coz i still am not sure what i would install in it.. i would for sure have libreoffice, Gimp, filezilla.. lemmp
[01:06] <kwtm> !partition > kwtm
[01:06] <Danny_Joris> alex--: cool, thanks. So I'm setting up openssh on a VM. Do I need to manually start openssh every time I restart my VM?
[01:06] <urlin2u> alex--, that is the law in mbr typed drives a extended will allow a lot more logical though
[01:07] <alex--> Danny_Joris: no
[01:07] <alex--> Danny_Joris: depends actually
[01:07] <alex--> kwtm: Windows partition, boot partition, recovery partition, some other tools partition, and I want to create ubuntu partition
[01:07] <ultrixx> is reiserfs a good filesystem or should i use ext4?
[01:07] <silare> !partition > silare
[01:07] <urlin2u> alex--, 3 primaries and a extended for ubuntu is what you want
[01:08] <alex--> urlin2u: 4 primaries are then
[01:08] <alex--> How to add extended?
[01:08] <alex--> I resized my first partition
[01:08] <alex--> Now I have white space
[01:08] <kwtm> blognewb: Technically, yes you can change it.  Practically: it can take hours while your computer is unable to do anything else.  Much better to partition it the right way the first time, with spare partitions as necessary.
[01:08] <zahh> Does anyone know why Domain names wont resolve for non-root users in a chroot'd environment?
[01:08] <alex--> unallocated
[01:08] <EzeQL> what should i enter on "mount point" ?
[01:08] <zahh> I can ping google.ca as root but not as non-root user
[01:08] <zahh> the doman name doesnt resolve
[01:09] <bastidrazor> zahh: aren't you toying with android?
[01:09] <blognewb> kwtm does ubuntu come flash compatible?
[01:09] <kwtm> alex--: As I was going to say when someone jumped in with a factoid that was only directed to one person within this conversation, you only need 2 partitions: if you set the second partition as "extended", then that partition can itself contain as many other partitions as you need.  These would be logical partitions.  But primary means that there are no partitions contained inside.
[01:09] <urlin2u> alex--, a extended is done in linux gparted is the easiest, you can only have as much as 3 primaries and one extended which can have a unlimited logical type, which ubuntu wil run in with know problem
[01:09] <alex--> kwtm: I'm stuck with 'unallocated' now
[01:09] <alex--> I'm in gparted
[01:09] <alex--> How can I make extended partition?
[01:09] <kwtm> blognewb: Umm... not sure why you are asking me.  I know partitions.  I don't know flash.  In fact, I don't even use Ubuntu.
[01:10] <urlin2u> alex--, post a imagebin of a screen shot of gparted
[01:10] <alex--> Do I have to make the C:/ partition with windows bigger?
[01:10] <blognewb> why are you here? kwtm
[01:10] <bazhang> blognewb, of course you can install flash
[01:10] <kwtm> alex--: So what you want to do is replace all but the first partition (which must be primary) with logical partitions inside an extended partition.
[01:10] <EzeQL> where can i find gparted?
[01:10] <kwtm> blognewb: I am here so that I can tell people to direct their questions to everyone, not just one single person.
[01:10] <bazhang> EzeQL, on the live cd, or dl the gparted live cd
[01:10] <Sylarsoft> how to use xchat
[01:10] <urlin2u> kwtm, windows wont run in a extended
[01:11] <blognewb> ok
[01:11] <bazhang> Sylarsoft, what part of xchat
[01:11] <blognewb> how much memory does ubuntu consume on average, idle time
[01:11] <urlin2u> alex--, posta screen shot of gparted.
[01:11] <Sylarsoft> i can't connect to the server
[01:11] <kwtm> urlin2u: Are you serious?  Well, I guess that decides which OS will go into the primary partition.  That's kind of unwieldy.  It's been a long time since I've put Windows on a computer...
[01:11] <bazhang> blognewb, no one answer for that
[01:12] <alex--> urlin2u: http://imagebin.org/169924
[01:12] <dmkae> is there a way to move a wubi install to a dedicated one?
[01:12] <urlin2u> kwtm, windows is just that way, tweaks that I doubt any know here can get to run but that is real geek stuff. A shred will run though, just not the bootable OS.
[01:12] <kwtm> alex--: Can GParted switch a partition from primary to extended?   If not, then you'll have to convert one partition at a time.  If you can't spare a primary partition to erase and convert into extended, you may be out of luck.
[01:12] <bazhang> dmkae, yes there is, check the wubiguide for that
[01:12] <urlin2u> shared*
[01:12] <alex--> kwtm: I dont know, where can I check this?
[01:13] <bazhang> !wubi > dmkae
[01:13] <kwtm> alex--: You have GParted open right now -- is there an option for "change partition to extended"?  I wonder who used all 4 primaries?  That was not a very wise thing to do.
[01:13] <alex--> kwtm: HP Did
[01:13] <urlin2u> alex--, your being led astray
[01:14] <alex--> led astray?
[01:14] <kwtm> urlin2u: I guess in the past I've always had Windows computers on which I installed Linux, so I always ended up having Windows on primary, not knowing that it would mean trouble to have it any other way.
[01:14] <urlin2u> alex--, bad advice
[01:14] <alex--> So what do I have to do now?
[01:14] <urlin2u> alex--, post a screenshot of gparted would be a good start
[01:14] <EzeQL> im on the live cd
[01:14] <JoeR1> urlin2u, Well all of my attempts to recover my Linux partition have failed and I found out that my ISO of Xubuntu x64 is missing
[01:14] <urlin2u> EzeQL, gpared is on the live cd
[01:15] <urlin2u> gparted
[01:15] <kwtm> alex--: Aaaugh.  My condolences.  I've had bad experiences with their computers.  Anyway ... you may need to get rid of one partition, or consider buying a new hard disk (it might be enough of a bargain).  I wonder if you can store the entirety of one partition on another?  What were your 4 partitions again?
[01:15] <kwtm> Wait, boot partition?
[01:15] <JoeR1> urlin2u, I was too tired to remember what you recommended last night before I went to sleep
[01:15] <bazhang> kwtm, thats very poor advice
[01:15] <urlin2u> JoeR1,  don't remember exactly what you were doing.
[01:15] <urlin2u> I
[01:15] <kwtm> alex--: You have a boot partition and a separate Windows partition?  Is that necessary?  Last time I did this I was using Win2k.
[01:16] <alex--> kwtm: boot is for some bios like thing
[01:16] <kwtm> bazhang: I will defer to your expertise.
[01:16] <bazhang> kwtm, please dont comment if you have no idea of what you're saying
[01:16] <jamiewan> hmmm
[01:16] <alex--> kwtm: HP did when I bought the laptop
[01:16] <JoeR1> urlin2u, I was having trouble with the MBR on my primary partition and many attempts to rebuild it had failed
[01:16] <kwtm> bazhang: Alright, I will refrain from commenting.  I didn't realize I had no idea what I'm saying, but apparently one study showed that people who were ignorant were ignorant of their ignorance.
[01:17] <urlin2u> JoeR1, post that bootscript you ran.
[01:17] <urlin2u> kwtm, yeah I fit right in there at times,:D
[01:17] <EzeQL> well, i do not know where the apps or ocnsole is..
[01:17] <JoeR1> urlin2u, I have to see if I can one moment
[01:17] <EzeQL> did windows make me stupid? :)
[01:18] <urlin2u> EzeQL, you on the unity desktop applications is a button in the left panel
[01:18] <alex--> Anyone who can help me creating a partition for Ubuntu? http://imagebin.org/169924
[01:20] <EzeQL> urlin2u, thanks
[01:20] <urlin2u> alex--, one partion has to go, if your backed up and have a install disc I would suggest the recovery
[01:21] <urlin2u> alex--, the boot partition could go instead but you will probably have to load some files to the C partition to boot
[01:21] <alex--> urlin2u: I didn't do both
[01:21] <alex--> no backup, no installation disc
[01:22] <what> hi can anyone help me with rtl8187 usb network connection problems?
[01:22] <urlin2u> alex--, don't do anything though until we fix windows for boot after removing any partition
[01:22] <C3POwn3d_> Hello. I'm running 10 and for some reason my hard drive constantly runs. Anyone know what I could do to fix it?
[01:22] <alex--> urlin2u: may I give windows his 'space' back?
[01:22] <urlin2u> alex--, you have a recovery disc or install disc for windows?
[01:22] <FAalbers> Hello. I can't seem to open more then one terminal in 11.04. Am I overlooking something ?
[01:22] <alex--> make /dev/sda2 bigger (like it was)
[01:23] <alex--> urlin2u: no, only a recovery partition
[01:23] <alex--> FAalbers: try ctrl alt t
[01:23] <urlin2u> alex--, go back to windows, and make a recovery disc
[01:23] <alex--> urlin2u: may I give windows his 'space' back? make /dev/sda2 bigger (like it was)
[01:23] <E3D3> I just installed the latest Ubuntu Alternate and can't find Opera web-browser. How can I install it ?
[01:23] <urlin2u> alex--, sure,
[01:24] <FAalbers> alex--, That worked :) How com the icon in the sidebar doesn't do that ?
[01:24] <alex--> urlin2u: and windows can boot normally?
[01:24] <urlin2u> alex--, to install ubuntu though a partiton must go.
[01:24] <Sylarsoft> http://imagebin.org/169926
[01:24] <alex--> FAalbers: I dont know. In my opinion Unity is still beta
[01:24] <urlin2u> alex--, are you using the disk manager in windows to shrink and exspand?
[01:24] <th0r> E3D3: opera.com has a deb package for ubuntu
[01:24] <EzeQL> should i enter something on "mount point" ?
[01:24] <alex--> urlin2u: gparted on live usb
[01:25] <FAalbers> alex--, Is 11.04 called Unity ?
[01:25] <urlin2u> alex--, is it W&
[01:25] <urlin2u> W7
[01:25] <FAalbers> alex--, Or is that the name of the UI
[01:25] <alex--> FAalbers: It's using Unity.
[01:25] <alex--> FAalbers: You have GNOME and Unity (They used gnome 2.x in ubuntu 10.04, and Unity in 11.04)
[01:25] <urlin2u> alex--, is it W7?
[01:25] <alex--> urlin2u: yes
[01:26] <E3D3> EzeQL: Thanks
[01:26] <FAalbers> I see ! Thanks alex--
[01:26] <urlin2u> alex--, only use the disk manager to move the window partition in W7
[01:26] <alex--> Can I give his partition back now?
[01:26] <alex--> Because I rezised it with gparted
[01:26] <alex--> I mean: make it like it was
[01:27] <urlin2u> alex--, see if windows will boot now and expand the partition and make a recovery disc
[01:27] <urlin2u> alex--, you need to make a backup as well to be safe really.
[01:27] <alex--> urlin2u: see if windows boots first, or first make bigger?
[01:27] <alex--> urlin2u: in bigger, like: how it was before I went on ubuntu
[01:28] <alex--> So I need to start backups now?
[01:28] <alex--> urlin2u: Make partition bigger, boot windows, install backup software, go backup
[01:28] <alex--> Right?
[01:28] <urlin2u> alex--, see if windows will boot. You should only be resizing that C partition in windows with the disk manager not gparted with the disc that full.
[01:29] <alex--> So I have to leave it like this right now?
[01:29] <alex--> Are you sure?
[01:30] <urlin2u> alex--, there are unmovable parts of the W7C that gparted cares nothong about and may make the W7 unbootable, which would need a recovery disc to fix if fixable
[01:30] <EzeQL> urlin2u, whats mount point ?
[01:30] <urlin2u> EzeQL, /
[01:30] <alex--> urlin2u: I resized it with the installer
[01:30] <urlin2u> EzeQL, choose /
[01:30] <EzeQL> perfect
[01:31] <urlin2u> alex are we communicating here?
[01:31] <EzeQL> and the anothers ? ntfs drivers?
[01:31] <urlin2u> EzeQL, not sure where your at you would not touch those, are you in the something other partitioning area?
[01:31] <alex--> urlin2u: yes, but the installer is something else than gparted. I mean: bring it back like how it was before I started with Ubuntu now, or just boot windows?
[01:32] <EzeQL> yep
[01:32] <urlin2u> alex--, boot windows
[01:32] <urlin2u> EzeQL, you only need to confirm where you want ubuntu and the grub placement in that gui, and the monut for the ext4 partition=/
[01:32] <EzeQL> ihave created all partitions as you indicated me , i set mount point / on ext4 partition
[01:33] <urlin2u> EzeQL, yeah just make sure you have the ext4 as the point of install.
[01:33] <EzeQL> ok, i dont see any grub option over here..
[01:33] <alex--> urlin2u: Windows wants to check the filetype on C:/
[01:33] <alex--> dit's checking files now
[01:34] <urlin2u> EzeQL, first gui after choosing that are below screen, grub to the mbr only probably sda
[01:34] <EzeQL> ok, ty
[01:34] <alex--> it's *
[01:34] <urlin2u> EzeQL, grub is in the first gui on choosing something else below the partition screen
[01:35] <urlin2u> alex--, that is normal go ahead.
[01:35] <alex--> ok
[01:36] <urlin2u> alex--, that s what may happen when you move the windows partition from outside of windows, rather then using it's partitioner
[01:36] <alex--> urlin2u: Didnt know win7 had a partitioner
[01:36] <urlin2u> alex--, yeah a virtual one in W7 pretty cool stuff.
[01:37] <alex--> sarcasm?
[01:37] <urlin2u> no
[01:37] <urlin2u> alex--, I wish linux had that capeability.
[01:37] <alex--> urlin2u: what's the difference between gparted and win7 one?
[01:38] <urlin2u> alex--, a lot of differences, but mainly the W7 one can do it on the system while using gprated can't in this situation.
[01:39] <alex--> on the system?
[01:39] <urlin2u> alex--, gparted is graet it just does not resize a partition while using it.
[01:39] <alex--> ah
[01:40] <urlin2u> alex--, also the W7 partitioner will look at your partition and tell you how much you can shrink it safely
[01:40] <qin> urlin2u: lvm?
[01:40] <urlin2u> qin, ?
[01:40] <alex--> urlin2u: so ubuntu can learn from windows one
[01:40] <alex--> for the first time :P
[01:40] <alex--> windows is ooting now
[01:40] <urlin2u> alex--, maybe lol
[01:40] <alex--> booting
[01:41] <urlin2u> alex--, boot to admina for the disk manager
[01:41] <alex--> logged in
[01:41] <urlin2u> admin
[01:41] <alex--> admin, erm
[01:41] <alex--> how?
[01:41] <urlin2u> alex--, how many accounts do you have?
[01:41] <alex--> 1 i think
[01:41] <alex--> can't I better make backups now?
[01:42] <urlin2u> alex--, your in admin then in the search type disk man, and you will see the partitioner show.
[01:42] <bsmith093> is it normal to not have ubuntu have updates every day, i check several times a day, and there are days in a row, where theres nothing
[01:42] <anth0ny> how do you use pip-2.7 in Ubuntu?  I have pip installed but running pip-2.7 yields "pip-2.7: command not found"
[01:42] <alex--> urlin2u: what now?
[01:43] <alex--> urlin2u: i'm in partition manager
[01:43] <urlin2u> alex--, open it and right click the C partition and follow the stuff on exspanding, been awile sisnce I have done this part.
[01:44] <osmosis> should I use evolution or claws for a imap mail client?
[01:44] <alex--> expand C:/ ?
[01:44] <alex--> Why?
[01:45] <alex--> urlin2u: ^
[01:45] <urlin2u> alex C Is the one you shrunk correct?
[01:45] <Sylarsoft> my settings of xchat http://imagebin.org/169929
[01:45] <alex--> urlin2u: yes
[01:45] <urlin2u> alex--, look here http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/resize-a-partition-for-free-in-windows-vista/
[01:46] <alex--> urlin2u: I did that in ubuntu
[01:46] <alex--> Now i have empty space
[01:46] <alex--> non allocated
[01:46] <alex--> Can I create 'eenvoudig volume' on that space?
[01:46] <urlin2u> alex--, so you wanted the C partition back to its original size, but your still in the quandry of having to remove a partition to install Ubuntu unless you just do a wubi install.
[01:47] <alex--> Wait
[01:47] <alex--> Hmm
[01:47] <alex--> Can I use the non allocated part now in windows to make partition for ubuntu?
[01:47] <urlin2u> alex--, only if you remove one of the other primaries.
[01:47] <sagaci> alex--, yeah, should be able to
[01:48] <urlin2u> sagaci, no he has 4 primaries
[01:48] <sagaci> can only have 4 primary partitions
[01:48] <sagaci> ah ok
[01:48] <alex--> can i create a secondary partition for ubuntu?
[01:48] <alex--> In windows I can click 'simple volume'
[01:49] <sagaci> not if you already have 4 primaries
[01:49] <urlin2u> alex--, I have explained this many times to you are you not getting the physices of this
[01:49] <urlin2u> physics
[01:49] <Onlyodin> What about converting the disk to a GPT disk?
[01:49] <urlin2u> Onlyodin, not for ubuntu
[01:49] <alex--> I have something like this: http://www.extend-partition.com/resource/images/extend-system-partition-windows-7/delete-d-partition.gif
[01:49] <urlin2u> stupid idea as well
[01:49] <alex--> look at the black unallocated
[01:50] <alex--> urlin2u: What are the disadvantages of wubi?
[01:50] <sagaci> alex--, reduced performance
[01:51] <alex--> sagaci: how much?
[01:51] <urlin2u> alex--, not designed for long term use, only 30 gigs, and if you let a grub upadte go to the mbr it can be difficult to fix.
[01:51] <alex--> urlin2u: What do you suggest then, for long term use?
[01:51] <Onlyodin> Ubuntu has supported GPT disks since 8.04, what's wrong with using GPT?
[01:51] <urlin2u> alex--, removing a primary
[01:51] <sagaci> alex--, try installing it to a flash drive
[01:52] <alex--> sagaci: I messed a 8 gb usb stick up with that
[01:52] <urlin2u> or a flash is good
[01:53] <urlin2u> Onlyodin, yeah yeah, but we are trying to help someone that can't understand some basic stuff here a gpt;is a gpt rwally a good idea here?
[01:54] <urlin2u> Onlyodin, besides gpt was not asked for, and is just your idea.
[01:54] <Onlyodin> I would have thought converting the disk to GPT would be the simplest way to go forward, but it's only a suggestion.
[01:55] <Onlyodin> GPT would allow the user to create a new primary partition without deleting any of the existing partitions. Isn't that what the user is asking for?
[01:55] <urlin2u> Onlyodin, a extended partion would hold a unlimited amout of NTFS shared and any linux now you tell me
[01:55] <Onlyodin> Yeah it would, but it also requires deleting the partition in order to replace it.
[01:55] <alex--> Can I change 1 primary partition in a secondary one?
[01:56] <urlin2u> Onlyodin, this channel is not for gpt it is a ubuntu channel I have never seen anybody but you suggest it, and y9our just muddying up a sistuation you have nothing to do with do you know the definition of boundaries.
[01:57] <qin> Sweet.
[01:58] <urlin2u> alex--, you can delete one and make a extended. What your suggesting, s an attempt to save dat?
[01:58] <urlin2u> is/data
[01:58] <alex--> urlin2u: I will start making my backups now
[01:59] <Onlyodin> I do, and I also know the definition of simple, a concept that you seem to be ignoring.  Anyway, it was only a suggestion, there's no need to arc up and start flaming me for no good reason.
[01:59] <alex--> So I can recover whole disk
[01:59] <alex--> When something goes wrong
[01:59] <urlin2u> alex--, cool make the recovery disc that is a very needed tool
[01:59] <alex--> I dont have cd's
[02:00] <urlin2u> Onlyodin, stop arguing you made suggestion, the user is not interested let it go.
[02:00] <alex--> Onlyodin: I dont have the experience for the GPT
[02:01] <owen1> how to enable middle click on macbook touchpad?
[02:01] <urlin2u> alex--, that recovery disc is very important, it will get yo to the recovery area if needed, for example to reinstall the backup.
[02:01] <alex--> urlin2u: no, my bios has some kind of boot to go to recovery partition
[02:03] <urlin2u> alex--, if your windows is damaged enough you wont get there, you will need  a bootable recovery or install disc
[02:03] <luigi> Okay, my ubuntu server running 11.04 is incorrectly getting both an auto ipv6 address and using my static ipv6 I've defined in /etc/network/interfaces. How do I disable stateless ipv6?
[02:03] <alex--> urlin2u: windows is on another partition
[02:03] <ar4more> hey i just installed linux im new to it
[02:03] <alex--> ar4more: ok
[02:04] <urlin2u> alex--, this is having the right tools for the job MS says the first thing you should do is make a recovery and a backup.
[02:04] <urlin2u> recovery disc
[02:05] <urlin2u> alex--, http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/features/backup-and-restore
[02:05] <alex--> urlin2u: I have backup software :)
[02:07] <urlin2u> alex--, okay do you have a recovery disc I can't explain this any better. For example lets say you want the MS boot back in the mbr, you eed a recovery or install disc for that.
[02:08] <Polah> ar4more: We can probably answer most questions you may have.
[02:08] <urlin2u> alex--, go ahead and disregard this for the cost of a 25 cent cd, and lose the windows, it is possible that this could happen.
[02:08] <alex--> urlin2u: 3 dvd's
[02:09] <urlin2u> alex--, the backup discs wont boot as the recovery does.
[02:09] <alex--> what do you mean?
[02:09] <urlin2u> alex--, anyway I see that this is a waste of time trying to help top be honest.
[02:12] <Cert> Hello.. I have issues regarding an Ubuntu install.
[02:12] <Cert> I get an xconf error, I have already tried changing the permissions for the appropriate folders
[02:12] <Cert> No dice. '
[02:13] <Cert> Any ideas what could be the issue?
[02:13] <webserver> how to use grub4dos direction ubuntu.
[02:15] <archuser> can someone help? gdm wont start im getting this error http://pastebin.com/3qadLM8h
[02:16] <usr13> archuser: Looks like a failed install?
[02:17] <archuser> usr13: so you think reinstall gdm or dbus
[02:18] <usr13> archuser: I don't know really...
[02:19] <iluminator101> does ubuntu netbook edition support snapdragon processors
[02:20] <urlin2u> iluminator101, which version of netbook edition do you mean?
[02:21] <qin> archuser: Did you remove cnosole-kit-daemon?
[02:21] <iluminator101> ubuntu 11.10 netboot edition more specially the the hp touchpad
[02:21] <archuser> qin: no
[02:21] <Polah> iluminator101, 11.01 has no netbook edition. It's also not stable yet.
[02:22] <qin> archuser: Does xinit works?
[02:22] <skim1776> how can I resolve problem with ATSC A/52 codec missing?
[02:23] <iluminator101>  i mean the general edition 11.10 in development
[02:24] <archuser> qin: yes
[02:24] <archuser> qin: i can start it with startx
[02:25] <Polah> iluminator101: I imagine snapdragon processors are supported through some kernel additions  if not natively
[02:25] <urlin2u> iluminator101, you thinking of getting the HP touch pad?
[02:26] <iluminator101> urlin2u, i have one
[02:27] <urlin2u> iluminator101, ah I think Polah is correct it is a newer processor I think, so the web may be your source of info really.
[02:27] <urlin2u> another source anyway :D iluminator101
[02:29] <rosstaylor> i am unable to access synaptic package manager, ": dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. ". please help
[02:29] <Polah> rosstaylor, have you tried running that command?
[02:30] <rosstaylor> polah: one sec please
[02:30] <rosstaylor> polah: lol i type the wrong thing in
[02:30] <qin> archuser: And startx do not produce errs? Does failsafe booting (or restarting gdm) give any clues, since this looks like gdm cannot start properly, so it looks like dbus.
[02:30] <rosstaylor> does anyone here have experience using lifenet?
[02:31] <urlin2u> rosstaylor, lifenet health?
[02:32] <urlin2u> crisis line rosstaylor
[02:32] <rosstaylor> urlin2u: lifenet for communicating when the network is down
[02:33] <rosstaylor> urlin2u: i have recently encountered this due to the fact that the hurricane caused the cell network to be down and such
[02:33] <rosstaylor> urlin2u: lifenet appears to be functioning in times of crisis
[02:33] <rosstaylor> so i was wondering if anyone has any experience using it
[02:34] <urlin2u> rosstaylor, you okay though, not really a ubuntu topic, but we would be concerned for you safety.
[02:34] <rosstaylor> urlin2u: ok - are there other ways to communicate (ubuntu software?) when the infrastructure is down?
[02:35] <urlin2u> rosstaylor, not without internet.
[02:35] <RA_drc> hello, why do my arrow keys in ubuntu work as navigation keys instead of cursor keys
[02:36] <rosstaylor> urlin2u: that earthquake was super scary, i couldn't contact anyone, so I was thinking about coming up with a back-up plan
[02:36] <dooglus> recently I've been having to re-type my ssh passphrase every time I log in to a remote host
[02:36] <dooglus> previously I'd type it once, and it would work until I rebooted
[02:36] <urlin2u> rosstaylor, sound like a good idea, you might check with the people who do that.
[02:36] <dooglus> what have I missed up, and how can I fix it?
[02:37] <photon> I just formatted a 3TB drive with mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb ... and it took just 10 seconds in 11.04, while the same command took almost an hour in 10.04. How come? What changed?
[02:37] <Langly> they added furries
[02:37] <urlin2u> rosstaylor,  we like to communicate on the channel, so we can all contribute. :D
[02:37] <RT1Y45> hello
[02:38] <RT1Y45> is there any tool to debug programs that start in ubuntu?
[02:38] <kuchiku> anyone here part of the  ubuntu development  team ?
[02:38] <qin> photon: Was it a clean hd?
[02:38] <photon> qin: what do you mean, clean? it was new...
[02:38] <alex--> Who can I contact if I want some changes in Ubuntu
[02:38] <aeon-ltd>  /j ubuntu-dev
[02:39] <urlin2u> photon, must be a miracle.
[02:39] <photon> urlin2u: I'm worried the formatting didn't work correctly.
[02:40] <qin> photon: Propably 11.04 just wrote partition table (since hd was empty tere is nothing to check or overwrite), then 10.04 have seen partiton table and had to "reformat" it.
[02:40] <kuchiku> i think ubuntu should join forces with android to make a better os
[02:40] <urlin2u> photon, look at the drive with a gui parttioner.
[02:41] <qin> kuchiku: Ubuntu is better os.
[02:43] <kuchiku> android is more user friendly and also google has all the resources to make it better
[02:43] <scx> which GPU is better choice for Linux:
[02:43] <luigi> Intel
[02:43] <scx> a) Intel GMA HD 3000 GPU
[02:43] <luigi> Intel
[02:43] <mgj> Ubuntu is for PC's. Android is for phones.  Always intel.
[02:43] <scx> c) NVIDIA GeForce 9400M?
[02:43] <luigi> scx: See previous messages.
[02:43] <scx> luigi: why Intel? why not Nvidia?
[02:44] <urlin2u> kuchiku, I think ubuntu should make me coffee in the morning, lite my cig, and pay all my bills independently
[02:44] <luigi> Intel has superb kernel support. nVidia has proprietary drivers that can be awful with certain cards and can have erratic issues.
[02:44] <urlin2u> kuchiku, do yu know how wealthy the main man at Ubuntu is?
[02:45] <kuchiku> mgj , hehehe , android now on tablet pc
[02:45] <luigi> scx: intel supports linux as a real OS. nvidia support linux as a pet project.
[02:45] <luigi> scx: ATI supports linux as a joke.
[02:45] <mgj> Ubuntu is for PC's. Android is for phones/tablets. Why the hell are you comparing the two?
[02:45] <qin> luigi: Neat.
[02:46] <scx> luigi: what about VIA/S3G or PowerVR?
[02:46] <RA_drc> hello, why do my arrow keys in ubuntu work as navigation keys instead of cursor keys
[02:47] <qin> mgj: Half of my life spending, removing dust and crap from screen, would need to go nuts to use tablet.
[02:48] <urlin2u> mmmm greasy screen
[02:48] <scx> mgj: i think, that GNOME 3/Unity was created for tablets
[02:48] <scx> like Android 3
[02:48] <kuchiku> mgj , android is a tablet pc os and i'm not comparing the two
[02:48] <mgj> I think it was made as an experiment to see just how much you can abuse your users before they run away
[02:49] <qin> mgj: Haha.
[02:49] <dooglus> recently I've been having to re-type my ssh passphrase every time I log in to a remote host
[02:49] <dooglus> previously I'd type it once, and it would work until I rebooted
[02:49] <dooglus> what have I missed up, and how can I fix it?
[02:49] <luigi> scx: VIA is okay, but really intel is the best choice.
[02:49] <luigi> scx: Intel is one of the few companies that writes good linux drivers in parallel with other platforms.
[02:49] <mgj> kuchiku, you said that ubuntu and android should join forces to create THE ULTIMATE OS. Which, honestly, is retarded
[02:50] <urlin2u> RA_drc, there are other options for those key, I doubt any one here cares to be honest.
[02:50] <bazhang> !ot mgj kuchiku
[02:50] <bazhang> mgj kuchiku #ubuntu-offtopic for this please
[02:54] <Saeid> how can I change my brightness of lcd in lxde ?
[02:55] <Langly> manually dialate your pupils
[02:55] <qin> dooglus: It sound like keyring, did you change your user password?
[02:55] <kuchiku> mgj , you might be the most intelligent person in this planet but  idiots in google thought that android might replace the ubuntu you using on your pc
[02:56] <qin> kuchiku: Not really true.
[02:56] <mgj> You give me way more credit than i deserve, but lets not take this further
[02:56]  * mgj is scared of the moderators
[02:56] <qin> kuchiku: And off-topic
[02:56] <Chris_0076> hey, I was wondering why my gnome-panel was taking up 100% cpu, any thoughts? (just upgraded to 11.04 about 2 days ago)
[02:57] <Chris_0076> also this last time I logged in 4 process of it were spawned
[02:57] <qin> Chris_0076: Are you using Classic or unity.
[02:57] <Chris_0076> classic
[02:58] <Chris_0076> I tried unity but I just cant get used to it
[02:58] <qin> Chris_0076: First try: gnime-panel --replace
[02:58] <qin> *gnome-panel
[02:58] <RA_drc> urlin2u: thanks for your help
[02:58] <RA_drc> hello, why do my arrow keys in ubuntu work as navigation keys instead of cursor keys
[02:58] <dooglus> qin: sorry for the delay - I was rebooting to see how ssh-agent usually gets started, and what's happening in my case
[02:58] <Saeid> hi , How do I adjust my brightness  on my  lcd (lxde) ?
[02:58] <Chris_0076> qin, ok, now what?
[02:59] <dooglus> qin: it turns out that the xinitrc file is running 'ssh-agent -s' as normal, and it's setting SSH_AGENT_PID and SSH_AUTH_SOCK in my environment, as it could, but by the time I get to run a terminal, the ssh-agent process has died
[02:59] <qin> RA_drc: In what application?
[02:59] <qin> Chris_0076: check in htop what it does now.
[02:59] <dooglus> qin: at the moment, for example, I see "SSH_AGENT_PID=1866" in my environment, but there is no process with ID 1866
[02:59] <dooglus> qin: if I run 'ssh-agent -s', the ssh-agent process dies instantly
[03:00] <Chris_0076> 0% cpu now
[03:00] <Chris_0076> ^^
[03:01] <Chris_0076> well... um that was not a good idea
[03:01] <Chris_0076> I closed the terminal that i typed gnome-panel --replace in and now it is all gone >.>
[03:02] <qin> Chris_0076: Atl-F2 and command
[03:02] <Chris_0076> nothing pops up
[03:02] <qin> dooglus: does it leave anything in logs?#
[03:02] <qin> Chris_0076: Alt-F2 and gnome-panel --replace
[03:02] <dooglus> qin: which logfile should I look at?
[03:03] <Raweed> hey im trying to install ubuntu onto an external hdd, i have created 3 partions, of size 30gb(/), 8gb(RAMx1/2) and 160(/Home). they are ext4 types. Does it matter that there is 750gb ntfs type which i want to use for other files from windows? and if not where do i install ubuntu (on /, /home or RAMx1/2) and what do i put as "device for boot loafer installation"? thanks in advance
[03:03] <qin> dooglus: messages and syslog
[03:03] <qin> dooglus: just grep ssh
[03:03] <dooglus> qin: interesting.  /var/log/auth.log: Aug 27 20:03:16 localhost ssh-agent[2754]: error: setrlimit RLIMIT_CORE: Operation not permitted
[03:04] <dooglus> qin: if I run 'ssh-agent -d', it works fine
[03:04] <dooglus> qin: but that's no use for automated setup, 'cos I have to copy/paste the SSH_AUTH_SOCK into each terminal
[03:04] <Chris_0076> ok, thank you very much qin. ^^
[03:04] <RA_drc> qin: firefox
[03:04] <Chris_0076> it seems to be ok now
[03:05] <qin> dooglus: This err is interesting...
[03:06] <dooglus> qin: I found this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=675111
[03:06] <dooglus> qin: they say it's a kernel bug
[03:06] <dooglus> qin: could it be my kernel is too old?
[03:06] <dooglus> I have Linux vikki-old 2.6.37-12-generic-pae #26-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 5 19:00:12 UTC 2011 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[03:07] <dooglus> oh, I remember - all 2.6.38 kernels cause this laptop to freeze regularly, so I use the newest 2.6.37 one
[03:08] <qin> dooglus: Same kernel and bug filled for red hat
[03:08] <Raweed> can ANYONE help?
[03:08] <dooglus> qin: thanks for the help!  this is the 3rd time I've tried to get help with the problem and you're the first to point me at looking at the logs :)
[03:09] <qin> dooglus: update is good idea, but there seems to be no bug for ubuntu, fance filling one?
[03:09] <ruffleS> hi there guys.. i can't create a live usb of oneiric from windows, i've tried unetbootin and also extracting .iso files into the usb flash disk using winrar but i got no luck. can anyone help me out with this?
[03:09] <qin> *fancy
[03:11] <qin> Raweed: ntfs do not matter, make sure to install grub in external hd not main one, anyway bast to remove (or power off) internal hd for installation
[03:12] <djmaster> so im trying to do terminal coding for colors how?
[03:13] <bao__> hello
[03:13] <Raweed> qin: yes but there are 3 partitions which one do i select, or do i just select the whole thing? kinda of a newbie. and what do i select for boot loader installation, ? and how do i turn of internal hd?
[03:13] <qin> djmaster: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/colorizing.html
[03:13] <djmaster> qin thx
[03:13] <qin> Raweed: Same one where is / and /boot
[03:13] <ruffleS> can anyone help me create a (oneiric daily build) live usb from windows? unetbootin ain't working and extracting files into the USB flash drive doesn't work either
[03:14] <Raweed> win: thanks and i select the whole hd for the installation not just a single partition?
[03:15] <hope> Una pregunta..??
[03:15] <wildbat> Raweed: when the installer ask you where to install pick manual. there will be a list of partition ~ select the 30GB and pick ext4, format. use as /, the 8GB linux swap, the rest /home ext4
[03:15] <ruffleS> !es hope
[03:15] <dooglus> qin: I've been updating regularly.  I just put a line in the grub config to always boot into the old kernel
[03:15] <qin> ruffleS: Not sure thisis supported here on in #ubuntu+1, as far as i know you need specific files form working M$ system to create live-usb. but #windows will be better help.
[03:15] <hope> Instale el aMule pero no veo donde descarga los archivos , ni tampoco localizo los temporales ,, alguien me puede audar
[03:16] <dooglus> qin: I've booted into the newest kernel now, and ssh-agent is running, so that was the problem
[03:16] <ruffleS> hope vete a #ubuntu-es
[03:16] <hope> ok gracias..!!
[03:16] <RA_drc> qin: why do my arrow keys in firefox work as navigation keys instead of cursor keys
[03:16] <james_> my flash64 is driving me crazy...it keeps stopping even thought ive just done speedtest and got 4meg..can any1 tell me how to fix it?
[03:16] <qin> Raweed: No! manual partitioning
[03:16] <ruffleS> hope de nada, compadre. suerte!
[03:16] <ruffleS> qin thanks
[03:16] <qin> RA_drc: Right, not really use firefox.
[03:16] <dooglus> qin: now I'll wait and see if this new kernel freezes.  I've not bothered reporting a bug because it would be too vague to be worth doing.  "this laptop freezes after a random amount of time if I use any 2.6.38 kernel" - what's anyone going to do with that?
[03:17] <RA_drc> qin: thanks anyways
[03:17] <Raweed> wildbat: your here! im saved! but its not asking me where to install each part just giving me a list of partitions etc and one button INSTALL NOW
[03:17] <urlin2u> Raweed, check the md5sum of the ISO  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM   and try this loader.  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[03:17] <djmaster> im running gnome 3 help
[03:18] <bazhang> djmaster, not supported here
[03:18] <bazhang> !gnome3 > djmaster
[03:18] <wildbat> Raweed: yes, just select the partition and format as i mention accordingly .
[03:18] <djmaster> ubottu,  ?
[03:18] <bazhang> !gnome3 | djmaster
[03:19] <ruffleS> hope aqui en #ubuntu se habla solamente inglés
[03:20] <djmaster> gnome 3 help>?
[03:20] <bazhang> djmaster, please dont ask, it's not supported here.
[03:20] <djmaster> what?
[03:21] <Tech-1> i don't think many will lke gnome 3,
[03:21] <Tech-1> its still in infancy
[03:21] <djmaster> i dont
[03:21] <djmaster> i have full
[03:22] <bazhang> djmaster, please stop asking; it's NOT supported here
[03:22] <djmaster> bazhang,  NO
[03:22] <Tech-1> its gnomes version of kde, they should (like trovalds said) leave gnome 2 alone
[03:22] <qin> dooglus: Thats creepy to got into such bugs, but still good to report, since there maybe fix (or at least hope). This remind me to propose in launchpad "crash test" tools.
[03:23] <djmaster> Tech-1, ya i know in  runing joli cloud 1.3 and i went back
[03:23] <dooglus> qin: it's been many months since I put that in the grub config.  maybe 2.6.38 kernels work for me now.
[03:25] <slashroot> where can i find info on installing ydl to a ps3 via usb
[03:25] <bazhang> slashroot, on the ydl support forums
[03:25] <bazhang> !alis | slashroot
[03:26] <djmaster> IS BAZHANG REAL
[03:27] <qin> djmaster: casp, mate.
[03:29] <Soundwave> TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[03:31] <MrWilly> so I'm having some trouble installing 10.04 32-bit.  it boots the CD, goes to the nifty loading screen with the blinking dots, and then locks up completely, necessitating a reboot.  is there any way to eliminate that pretty screen so I can see what's actually happening when it locks?
[03:31] <chavo> MrWilly: hit F1
[03:31] <MrWilly> chavo, lemme give that a shot
[03:31] <centHOGG> MrWilly: also your hw could be elderly
[03:36] <MrWilly> centHOGG, I'm quite certain the hardware's supported.  it's had 10.04 on it before
[03:36] <centHOGG> k
[03:36] <MrWilly> so this is most interesting
[03:36] <centHOGG> MrWilly: any peripherals hanging you up?
[03:36] <MrWilly> after hitting F1 to see what's going on, it got to the point where it "locks."  what I actually see is some repeated text scrolling past the screen over and over, so quickly that I can't read it
[03:37] <MrWilly> centHOGG, only things connected are a keyboard, monitor, USB mouse and the wireless NIC
[03:37] <centHOGG> hmm... idk
[03:37] <qin> MrWilly: Remove last one
[03:37] <MrWilly> yeah, weird
[03:37] <MrWilly> qin, pain in the butt, but I can do that
[03:38] <MrWilly> the text I'm seeing starts [  72.280012] followed by what looks to be a memory address, but the text after that is unreadable due to the speed of the scrolling
[03:41] <qin> MrWilly: btw, did you try ScrLk?
[03:45] <MrWilly> well hot damn
[03:46] <MrWilly> removing the wireless NIC did it
[03:46] <MrWilly> qin, good call on that.  I should've known better
[03:46] <qin> MrWilly: Tease me now. ;)
[03:46] <MrWilly> qin, I meant removing the nic was a pain in the butt, not that you were :D
[03:47] <qin> MrWilly: Rofl.
[03:47] <MrWilly> qin, you're my savior.  I was trying all kinds of crazy stuff that I vaguely remembered from linux installs long past, but I completely missed that one
[03:48] <nickman101> anyone wanna do a g+ hangout?
[03:48] <centHOGG> nickman101: no homo
[03:48] <qin> nickman101: Do they support elinks?
[03:49] <zenmaster> So here is a funny question. I finally got my little development machine going. And I want to do some flash applications. More specifically for my recording studio.
[03:49] <nickman101> elinks?
[03:49] <zenmaster> So what is a good Flash Development IDE GUI for linux? From my exhaustive research on google sounds like none.
[03:49] <qin> nickman101: Browser
[03:49] <zenmaster> So does this leave me with a virtual box windows install for my flash apps?
[03:50] <nickman101> i don't get what you're trying to say, qin
[03:50] <qin> zenmaster: Animations: synfig, some claim that blender too, there was rumour of gimp extention.
[03:50] <hatter> how do i install aufs module on natty ?
[03:50] <zenmaster> Yeah, that is gay. :*(
[03:50] <luite> zenmaster: hmm, I think your options are limited, there are actionscript compilers, libraries to generate flash for serveral languages
[03:50] <zenmaster> Err annoying excuse me.
[03:51] <nickman101> man, i never seen you guys before
[03:51] <luite> zenmaster: but no integrated authoring environment like adobe flash
[03:51] <qin> nickman101: That if g+ do not support brower i am using, then no honey.
[03:51] <zenmaster> luite: That is what I seem to be finding, but nothing really like what I would like to do like when I was in Windows. I guess my video editing machine is going to have to do it.
[03:51] <nickman101> o i see what you mean
[03:51] <zenmaster> luite: Thank you. :D
[03:52] <nickman101> i was just asking if anyone wanted to start a video chat in general
[03:52] <luite> zenmaster: flash support in linux isn't terribly great anyway, high cpu usage ,unstable
[03:52] <luite> flash player that is
[03:52] <qin> zenmaster: Apparently cs3 get some good feedback in winehq.
[03:52] <nickman101> i only got a ffc on my phone, no webcam :(
[03:52] <MagicJ> i have a parallel printer running on a usb converter.  can open and out put to it well.  configured it for lp, it acceprs jobs but they dont actually print - they just stay in the queue - what am i missing
[03:52] <zenmaster> Yeah I am framiliar with that.
[03:52] <zenmaster> Thank you for the support ubuntu.
[03:52] <zenmaster> One more question.
[03:53] <urlin2u> zenmaster, what do you mean by that is gay?
[03:53] <zenmaster> What is the best web based mail sweet easiest to setup for my linux machine.
[03:53] <qin> zenmaster: php_mail
[03:53] <luite> gmail ;)
[03:53] <zenmaster> urlin2u: I thought lame like a raw bundle of sticks. Not treated like precut wood. Incoherrent analogy.
[03:53] <luigi> gmail++
[03:53] <qin> zenmaster: Also, you could ditch idea of using abobe and try jquery.
[03:53] <zenmaster> Well I used to use squirell mail and qmail.
[03:54] <urlin2u> zendeavor, lol
[03:54] <zenmaster> qin: That would be a new avenue.
[03:54] <luite> I use roundcube, which works ok, but gmail is much better
[03:54] <zenmaster> Few little flash things for a site that I am developing.
[03:54] <zenmaster> But I just got our domain name, and would like to handle our own e-mail.
[03:55] <luite> handling own email is a pain imho
[03:55] <zenmaster> Last version of linux I ran was Slakware 4.0 then 7.0 then I went to BSD.
[03:55] <zenmaster> luite: Yes it is.
[03:57] <EzeQL> is nvdidia 525m usable?
[03:59] <Saeid> how can I change my brightness of lcd in lxde ?
[04:00] <blognewb> hi, is it safe to assume that linux is a positive outcome of socialism?
[04:00] <centHOGG> linux = servers
[04:00] <centHOGG> linux != socialism
[04:01] <koruptid> running 11.10 A3 and ran into a rather interesting issue... after installing a few packages (including lightdm) on login my account no longer loads unity correctly. I reinstalled gdm as default but it did not fix the issue... anyone else run ingo this? (on login all I get it the nautilis file browser menu and that's it.)
[04:02] <qwaz> please do not brings politics into this
[04:02] <koruptid> also, where in the hell are the options to set font styles/sizes in 11.10?
[04:04] <jasongriffee> can someone tell me how to remove the ubuntu logo (entirely, not replaced) and the computer name taken off the login window? 11.04
[04:05] <centHOGG> install windows
[04:05] <ruler501> when I try to login I type in my password and then it asks me for my ssh passphrase. If I type it in correctly it goes to the login page if I type it in incorrectly It says incorrect passphrase please try again. How can I get into my system?
[04:05] <jasongriffee> centHOGG: har har, no really
[04:06] <koruptid> ugh... why do I have the feeling I'm dead end / reinstall... again.
[04:08] <luigi> Does Ubuntu just ignore /etc/sysctl.conf? Because nothing I set there is recognized.
[04:09] <[deXter]> Hi all; fresh install of 11.04; Installed the nvidia drivers and rebooted, now there is not display. I can't even get to the GRUB boot menu (by pressing Shift / Esc). The monitor immediately goes "out of range". I've tried connecting it to the TV (which supports way higher resolutions btw) but even it says "Unsupported signal)
[04:09] <[deXter]> s/not/no
[04:09] <zendeavor> chroot into it ftw, change grub config to 800x600x16 video mode
[04:11] <[deXter]> zendeavor: Thanks, will try it now
[04:12] <zendeavor> i can't imagine there's any monitor which doesn't support that
[04:12] <usr_> is it possible to make a pc with ubuntu "appear" as an ftp server on a LAN?
[04:13] <EzeQL> how can i install nvidia optimus drivers on ubuntu 11.04
[04:14] <XDS2010_> sup
[04:14] <nickman101> sup
[04:15] <amh345> quick question.  im new to cron jobs.   if i have a cron run every minute and echo "hello
[04:15] <amh345> '
[04:15] <amh345> where do i see the echo?
[04:15] <XDS2010_> where can i get a good weather app for ubu?
[04:15] <amh345> sorry for the split lin there.  twitchy finger.
[04:15] <XDS2010_> something that can track irene?
[04:16] <qin> amh345: you need to either write it to file or send to tty
[04:16] <qin> XDS2010_: Web browser
[04:16] <XDS2010_> hell im even thinking of changing my hotspots name to IRENE and opening them up :P
[04:17] <urlin2u> XDS2010_, weather for Natty?
[04:17] <nehi> hello. i'm facing this window saying "low disk space". I have a screenshot of this, what can I do to show it here to get some help?
[04:18] <qwaz> zendeavor: what does chroot do. I looked it up but I still dont understand
[04:18] <qin> nehi: In terminal: df -h and paste in paste.ubuntu.com
[04:18] <nehi> qin: tnx
[04:18] <urlin2u> XDS2010_, her amongst other websites are links to app applets for natty   http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/05/10-useful-application-indicators-for.html
[04:18] <JamezQ> qwaz: chroot changes what programs think the root of your drive is
[04:19] <XDS2010_> COOL thanks urlin2u !
[04:19] <JamezQ> qwaz: programs and the shell, T
[04:19] <JamezQ> qwaz: The root of your drive is where everything starts it is the "/"
[04:19] <qin> nehi: Also in terminal: sudo du -ls /* (this may take some time to complete)
[04:19] <urlin2u> XDS2010_, no problem, wegud8 has some as well
[04:19] <urlin2u> webud8
[04:19] <zulax> is htaccess protection enough to drive away search bots and other unauthenticated users?
[04:20] <qin> zulax: use robot.txt for it.
[04:20] <centHOGG> spossed to be
[04:20] <zulax> ok qin
[04:20] <qwaz> JamezQ: Ah i see thanks. Can you use it in an example now please :P
[04:20] <nehi> qin: this is the url for the first one
[04:20] <daniel> could anybody recommend a good ubuntu linux book for people who just want to use it for personal use.  Do not want to program in it or host a linux server
[04:20] <nehi> qin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/676351/
[04:21] <dumptruckman> argh
[04:21] <JamezQ> qwaz: So if I am in, /home/qwaz/Documents/ , and I chroot to where I am at, I am now in "/" . So If I go into a subfolder stuff, I am in /stuff and not /home/qwas/Documents/stuff
[04:22] <qin> zulax: *robots.txt (this tell crawles what to do and what not, so less weight from non-malisious bots, for rest htaccess)
[04:22] <nehi> daniel: i think ubuntu kung fu is good
[04:22] <daniel> thanks
[04:22] <JamezQ> qwaz: Or for a more realistic example, your shell will look for programs in /bin , /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin, among others. If you chroot it will look it, /home/qwas/Documents/bin and such
[04:22] <zulax> qin i put it my webroot with content User-agent: * , Disallow: /
[04:22] <dumptruckman> i'm having trouble launching an windows executable through wine.. it says it does not have the executable bit.  If i right-click->properties, permissions tab and check the executable box it immediately unchecks
[04:22] <zendeavor> qwaz: it's a way into a system without booting directly into it
[04:23] <JamezQ> and will use those binaries, it can be like being in a totally different os, just using the same kernel
[04:23] <bullgard6> OO.o 3.2 Base in Jaunty is trying to connect to my MySQL database and otains: "Communication  link failure." What does the second field in the Base status bar mean?
[04:23] <qin> zulax: Correct
[04:23] <urlin2u> zendeavor, if not encrypted a live cd should get you in.
[04:23] <zendeavor> yes it should, have fun
[04:23] <JamezQ> qwaz: Hopefully that is good enough :)
[04:24] <dumptruckman> i've also tried doing sudo nautlius and changing it through that... same thing, i can't change the executable checkbox or any of the permissions.  The file is located on a windows partition.
[04:24] <nehi> qin: the second commands outcome is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/676353/
[04:24] <zulax> qin,  is there a way to test it?
[04:24] <jasongriffee> i have 11.04, how would I upgrade to ubuntu 11.10 today?
[04:25] <daniel> is ubuntu kung fu fairly easy to understand for people are are not very advanced in there computer skills
[04:25] <centHOGG> time machine
[04:25] <qin> zulax: try curl or wget against site (with recrusive option)
[04:25] <jasongriffee> isn't there a beta copy out?
[04:25] <nehi> qin: i think my root folder is getting too populated. how can i free some space
[04:25] <dumptruckman> anyone mind helping me??
[04:25] <qwaz> JamezQ: yeah thanks for the help man.
[04:25] <urlin2u> jasongriffee, as your main OS?
[04:25] <chavo> jasongriffee: no it's still alpha
[04:26] <JamezQ> qwaz: No problem
[04:26] <nehi> qin: in first place i think i should have made it larger but now i have no way
[04:26] <jasongriffee> isn't it close though?
[04:27] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: Try using open with, and manually type wine in the custom text-field.
[04:27] <ruler501> when I try to login I type in my password and then it asks me for my ssh passphrase. If I type it in correctly it goes to the login page if I type it in incorrectly It says incorrect passphrase please try again. How can I get into my system?
[04:27] <urlin2u> danial I learned it from scratch no computer skills whatsoever, no ms bias.
[04:27] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: That is a workaround, but someone should have another (better) answer
[04:27] <qin> nehi: sudo apr-get autoclean and sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:27] <zulax> qin, curl mysite.com actually gives me 401(.htaccess auth), so could i still test my robots.txt?
[04:28] <dumptruckman> jameszq: still have the same issue
[04:28] <nehi> qin: thanks buddy
[04:28] <daniel> it is updated for ubuntu 10.04
[04:28] <dumptruckman> The file 'blahblah' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit.
[04:29] <qin> zulax: curl any file (know to you) in subdirectories. or wget -r
[04:29] <daniel> also has any used sbackup and would they recommend that or another linux application
[04:29] <zulax> ok
[04:29] <qin> nehi: How much space did you get?
[04:30] <xangua> dumptruckman: right clic-properties-mark it as executable
[04:30] <nehi> qin: nothing freed up!
[04:30] <urlin2u> dumptruckman, have you also tried the #winehq channel?
[04:30] <JamezQ> xangua: he already tried that
[04:30] <dumptruckman> xangua, when i do that, it immediately unchecks itself
[04:30] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: Here are some more things to try: dumptruckman:
[04:30] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1500627
[04:30] <dumptruckman> i've tried it with sudo nautilus as well
[04:30] <rodhash> Guys, does anyone knows how to increase the height size of conky?
[04:30] <nehi> qin: my root is 4gb. and it's too small :(
[04:30] <gokulnath> are there any theams available for grub2 in natty
[04:30] <xangua> dumptruckman: please don't tell me that you are trying to run a windows app that is on your windows partition
[04:30] <xangua> ¿
[04:31] <urlin2u> rodhash, in the conky,rc file
[04:31] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: yes he is
[04:31] <xangua> .......
[04:31] <dumptruckman> it is on an ntfs partition
[04:31] <dumptruckman> but not on the windows partition
[04:31] <rodhash> urlin2u: Yes I'm modified .conkyrc
[04:31] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: Also, I suggest the one where you use the terminal, type wine then drag the file
[04:31] <qin> nehl: Sorry, that is stuff in /usr (your programs), uninstall someting.
[04:31] <xangua> dumptruckman: please install the windows app via wine, on Ubuntu
[04:31] <rodhash> urlin2u: but with no success
[04:31] <Saeid> please help me ! how can I change my brightness of lcd in lxde desktop-environment ?
[04:31] <nehi> qin: got it
[04:31] <dumptruckman> xangua, i can't alter the permissions of an ntfs partition?
[04:32] <zulax> thx qin for ur help, have a good evening
[04:32] <dumptruckman> of the files in an ntfs partition*
[04:32] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: you should be able to if you can write to it
[04:32] <EzeQL> why it says file not found
[04:32] <dumptruckman> and i can, JamezQ
[04:32] <nehi> qin: thank you so much for your help. nice time!
[04:32] <EzeQL> while im tring to execute a .sh file on the same directory?
[04:32] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: you CAN try coping over the exe to your desktop to try
[04:32] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: What kind of program is it?
[04:33] <dumptruckman> world of warcraft :3
[04:33] <qin> EzeQL: ./file.sh or bash file.sh?
[04:33] <EzeQL> 1st one
[04:33] <amh345> so i made a super simple cron to test.  1 * * * * echo "pewp" 1> /dev/null 2> /tmp/some_job.err   however, i see no output file in /tmp/some_job.err
[04:33] <qin> EzeQL: chmod +x file.sh (making executable)
[04:34] <dumptruckman> jamezq, that link you gave me, it talks about a error message when trying to change it... i'm not getting any kind of errors, it just unchecks
[04:34] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: Well, since that is a rather large program, I suggest installing in on your linux partition, things *can* get hairy
[04:35] <EzeQL> qin TY!
[04:35] <urlin2u> rodhash, with conky I save the original just in case ans tweak the heck out of the one not saved, everytime you hit save it should restart if not use in the terminal  killall conky && conky  to restart
[04:35] <qin> EzeQL: Welcome.
[04:35] <dumptruckman> i'd still like to understand why i can't change the executable bit of anything on this partition...
[04:35] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: it calls and loads other programs on that partition, and THOSE may not be executable, and wine may report back that the main one is not, or something weird,
[04:36] <qin> dumptruckman: you mean ntfs?
[04:36] <dumptruckman> yes
[04:36] <rodhash> urlin2u: That's what I'm doing... but my question was: How to change the height size... because I couldnt with some options I tried
[04:36] <nehi> qin: can i move some staff from root to /home?
[04:37] <daniel> Could anybody recommend a book on ubutu linux that was written more recently than ubuntu kung fu
[04:37] <chavo> dumptruckman: you shouldn't have to change any of that, works fine for me
[04:37] <urlin2u> rodhash, I realize that there can be in any conky a whole set of adjustments that enable or limit your sucess, so you havt o kind of peck around with it.
[04:37] <xangua> !manual | daniel
[04:37] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: Frankly, I just don't know ^ ^.  You can try to  give me the output of "file wow.exe" or whatever
[04:37] <rodhash> lol
[04:37] <dumptruckman> chavo, i know, i thought it was weird... i've installed ubuntu before and had no issues
[04:38] <rodhash> ok, my question is answered lol
[04:38] <dumptruckman> 10.04 i think
[04:38] <nehi> daniel: i think you can find some useful stuff in makeuseof.com
[04:38] <urlin2u> rodhash, if you want to pastebin your conky I will see if I can figure it out.
[04:38] <qin> nehi: No!
[04:40] <nehi> qin: oh god so i should think about a new fresh install. hate it!
[04:40] <nehi> qin: thank you so much
[04:40] <EzeQL> how can i install nvdiria drivers for gforce 525m ?
[04:40] <qin> nehi: try to open synaptic and see what programs take most space and you do not need them.
[04:41] <dumptruckman> wow.. suddenly it works.
[04:41] <nehi> qin: ok ok
[04:41] <JamezQ> dumptruckman: Your welcome.
[04:41] <bullgard6> OO.o 3.2 Base in Jaunty is trying to connect to my MySQL database and otains: "Communication  link failure." What does the second field in the Base status bar mean?
[04:41] <mouse> How do I find out the button number of a specific button on my mouse?
[04:43] <JamezQ> mouse: go into the terminal, type "xev" it should say what keycode it gets
[04:45] <[deXter]> Hi all; update to my previous problem: I'm now able to get to the recovery menu and I did an nvidia-xconfig
[04:45] <[deXter]> rebooted but still the system doesn't display anything
[04:45] <[deXter]> Tried the failsafex mode but that doesn't work either
[04:46] <xubuntu> my hp dv6000 laptop with a fresh install of ubuntu 10.04 will not sence my wireless network so that i can get online-help
[04:47] <mouse> JamezQ, Thank you.  That's what I was hoping to find.
[04:47] <JamezQ> mouse: No problem.
[04:47] <xubuntu> so far i have done wut seems obvious by entering my ssid and password but no luck
[04:50] <xubuntu> gotta funniny feeling im screwed
[04:50] <xubuntu> funny
[04:51] <guest09230932> i have a question does anyone know of a distribution or the current version of ubuntu that uses e17?
[04:51] <mouse> I've got a quick question about xev.  Using imwheel I've bound the right arrow to a mouse button.  When that button is pressed will xev detect a right arrow press event?
[04:51] <guest09230932> i have a question does anyone know of a distribution of the current version of ubuntu that uses e17*
[04:52] <qin> guest09230932: Any, after installing it.
[04:52] <guest09230932> with the current version of ubuntu that uses e17
[04:52] <bullgard6> OO.o 3.2 Base in Jaunty is trying to connect to my MySQL database and otains: "Communication  link failure." What does the second field in the Base status bar mean?
[04:52] <guest09230932> that sounds better
[04:52] <guest09230932> my grammar is poor lol
[04:53] <guest09230932> qin, well i just want e17
[04:53] <qin> guest09230932: For latest e17 you need PPA, but there is a bit older version in repos.
[04:53] <mouse> guest09230932, If you go to distrowatch.com you can search their database for all distros using e17
[04:54] <bullgard6> !enter | guest09230932
[04:54] <guest09230932> well i was hoping someone would know of one off the radar
[04:54] <mouse> guest09230932, Macpup
[04:54] <xangua> bullgard upgrade to a supported ubuntu release ;)
[04:54] <guest09230932> macpup. doesnt use 11.04
[04:55] <mouse> guest09230932, You asked for a distro that uses e17.
[04:55] <artypig78> hey guys, I'm hosting some files on my server, and I want my friends to be able to see the directory in their browsers. However, it is not showing up: what do i need to do? is this a problem with my .htaccess?
[04:55] <artypig78> (ie. it's not loading)
[04:55] <guest09230932> im wanting one thats current
[04:55] <qin> guest09230932: e17 do not look very active.
[04:56] <guest09230932> i know :( but it looks nice and neat
[04:56] <mouse> e17 has also been pretty buggy in my experiences.
[04:56] <guest09230932> looks like im going to install lubuntu
[04:57] <guest09230932> i already have a copy of it
[04:57] <Galindar> Hello all. Im looking for a better solution than Startup-Manager for 11.04. it does not hold my monitor settings and switches to the 800x600 default almost every other reboot. logging in 2x is getting annoying. any suggestions?
[04:57] <mouse> artypig78, You could change it to a ftp server since running the ftp protocol in a browser usually displays the directory.
[04:58] <qin> guest09230932: http://packages.enlightenment.org/ubuntu/
[04:59] <mouse> Galindar, Are you using a nvidia card?
[05:00] <mouse> I've got a quick question about xev.  Using imwheel I've bound the right arrow to a mouse button.  When that button is pressed will xev detect a right arrow press event?
[05:00] <Galindar> mouse:  yes.
[05:01] <guest09230932> qin, thanks btw
[05:02] <Galindar> mouse:  i had no problem with older versions of ubuntu. it just started after i upgraded to 11.04 the monitor kept giving me "out of range" when i booted up pc. so i installed Startup-Manager. but it does not seem to keep the settings i set in it all the time. i end up logging in,logging out, and then logging back in and that corrects the disply resolution. but i would really like something that works everytime.
[05:02] <OogyPoogy> Anyone else in NJ?
[05:02] <OogyPoogy> Getting a bit freaked about the hurricane.
[05:03] <mouse> Galindar, And you've already tried to change the res in nvidia-settings then "save to X configuration file"?
[05:04] <Galindar> mouse:  no i havent didnt think of that. i will try it. the Nvidia settings are set to auto. i will change it to the same as startup-manager. thank you.
[05:05] <daniel> has anyone here ever used Grsync
[05:05] <bullgard6> What does the 2nd field of the status bar of OO.o Base designate?
[05:05] <JamezQ> daniel: I have
[05:05] <daniel> would you recommend it
[05:05] <mouse> Galindar, You're welcome but if that doesn't work and you're desperate you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to automatically set the res to what you want at startup.
[05:06] <JamezQ> daniel: Yes, it is very fast. I like it
[05:06] <Galindar> mouse: Nvidia settings doesnt list 1024x1080. i will try to edit the xorg.conf. thank you again!
[05:07] <JamezQ> daniel: It is a bit complicated if you are a newbie tho,
[05:07] <mouse> Galindar, Does your monitor support 1024x1080?
[05:08] <daniel> are there any backup applications that you would recommend that are not so complicated and preferably graphical
[05:08] <Galindar> mouse: yes and higher. used to use 1920x1200
[05:10] <bullgard6> daniel Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME 3 will provide a simple-to-use backup program.
[05:10] <JamezQ> daniel: Are you looking to back up just some files? mint-backup is great, otherwise there is deja dup, and a lot of others, but non I suggest
[05:11] <bullgard6> daniel Its name is simply "Backup".
[05:11] <JamezQ> daniel: Simply because I have not used them, I just use (g)rsync, and have used mint-backup before, they are both good. Google backup software for ubuntu if no one else can respond.
[05:11] <urlin2u> Diamonda is sinister yet beautiful, an amazing keyboard player a s well.
[05:11] <urlin2u> opps wrong channel
[05:12] <daniel> I am looking to have my files and system backed up automatically
[05:12] <mouse> Galindar, If you're sure your graphics card is working properly but you're not seeing a res you're sure your monitor supports then you might want to check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for any errors related to your monitor's EDID
[05:12] <JamezQ> daniel: You can do that with pretty much any backup software, sometimes you may put in a cron job, but that is easy
[05:13] <Galindar> mouse: ok i will check that also. thank you again!
[05:13] <bullgard6> What does the 2nd field of the status bar of OO.o Base designate?
[05:14] <mouse> Galindar, NP
[05:15] <Rafase282> Hello, can anyone help me setup a dchp server on m y ubuntu machine or a way to connect my internet with my phone runing debian through usb?
[05:15] <Rafase282> it is setup to get an ip using dchp
[05:16] <Rafase282> so without it I cant ssh into it
[05:16] <Rafase282> which is what i'm trying to do actually
[05:19] <computerx> Hi there clever people. I want to write to the php.ini and restart apache from a php script. Can I give a specific script elevated privledges through a sticky bit, or should I look at changing the file permissions on php.ini and exec permissions on apache?
[05:20] <new1> does anyone here use wine?
[05:21] <centHOGG> no i use cheese though
[05:21] <computerx> Yes new1, what's up?
[05:21] <computerx> What type of cheese, stilton? Boursin?
[05:22] <Rafase282> anyone here familiar with dchp?
[05:22] <villa> how can I hide a file or a folder? what cmd can realize this?
[05:22] <lethu> new1, go ahead
[05:22] <Rafase282> dhcp*
 i have 1.2.2 on 11.04. i need to install office 2003 all-in-one. i don't know how to even begin.
[05:22] <lethu> villa, by suffixing a dot to its name
[05:22] <computerx> villa: You can either change the priveledges on the folder so it can't be read, or hide it from most programs by naming it ".something"
[05:23] <computerx> new1: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3214 -- should help you get started
[05:23] <new1> thanks
[05:24] <lethu> villa, I mean prefixing, not suffixing, sorry
[05:24] <villa> ...
[05:26] <nationstatedog> What's up with the new Sun Java news? If we won't have normal PPA use, will we just have to find another PPA that's not officially from Sun/Oracle or something?
[05:26] <computerx> IcedTea not working out for you?
[05:26] <happygolucky> villa: can also use truecrypt
[05:28] <villa> Combatjuan, Is a folder hidden the same way as a file?
[05:28] <nationstatedog> computerx: but i heard the whole icedtea/openjdk stuff sucks compared to Sun's stuff
[05:28] <nationstatedog> is it true or just FUD?
[05:29] <computerx> FUD mostly
[05:29] <bullgard6> What does the 2nd field of the status bar of OO.o Base designate?
[05:29] <happygolucky> daniel: there's different raid levels that do it on the fly and there is also the cloud way via the internet namely dropbox but that is only 2 GB of back-up
[05:29] <computerx> nationstatedog: I had trouble running Netbeans in it, found it very slow for that, but if you read enough, you should find it very capable 99% of the time.
[05:30] <villa> Thanks you all. prefixing a dot works
[05:30] <xubuntu> why doesnt ubuntu make srivers for broadom wireless cards when they are one of the most widely used
[05:30] <nationstatedog> computerx: i don't use netbeans (eclipse and IDEAJ) so that's encouraging
[05:30] <xubuntu> drivers*
[05:30] <nationstatedog> I also hear things like Clojure are built off of/with Sun Java in mind vs openjdk
[05:30] <nationstatedog> but i don't use clojure anyways soo
[05:31] <computerx> nationstatedog: Read http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=java_vm_performance&num=2 and the next few pages. IcedTea and Oracle Java are about the same on Linux.
[05:31] <nationstatedog> RIP Sun
[05:31] <nationstatedog> thanks computerx
[05:31] <computerx> xubuntu: Because Broadcom don't care to help Linux developers, want to keep their code a secret and no one has had time to hack it yet
[05:32] <computerx> xubuntu: Have you looked at the ndis driver package?
[05:32] <urlin2u> xubuntu, the question is why does not brpadcom provide for linux, and you can use ubuntu packages to use them.
[05:33] <xubuntu> no ndis is unstable
[05:33] <xubuntu> and i dont know how to do it
[05:34] <xubuntu> i sure hope it will at least go online hard wired
[05:34] <computerx> xubuntu: I wish you luck, I hate wireless with a passion, so I'm afraid I don't share your pain
[05:34] <xubuntu> do i have to go online to try this ndis
[05:35] <computerx> Not tried it, I just know about it. The software centre search for ndis should get you somewhere.
[05:35] <crash1hd> hmm seems that I am having issues with a basic command running sudo chmod 777 * in a folder full of folders and yet nothing is changing? I have admin rights and the folders are in my users name
[05:35] <computerx> crash1hd: Are you using chmod -R 0777 *
[05:35] <crash1hd> nope that might be why it is not working
[05:35] <computerx> Might be :)
[05:36] <crash1hd> I did not realize that I needed to say -R which is recursive right?
[05:36] <new1> how do i use gconf editor to keep 11.04 from keeping a list of recent files/folders?
[05:36] <computerx> Yes, and octal is always preceeded with a zero
[05:36] <urlin2u> xubuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[05:36] <psycho_oreos> xubuntu, ubuntu isn't responsible for making drivers, they take on the role like every other major linux distribution. To package all the stuff together into one thing rather than focusing on creating custom drivers. Alas broadcom has been very slow to providing proper support to its linux community
[05:37] <xubuntu> they really need to get cozy with broadcom
[05:37] <bullgard6> What does the 2nd field of the status bar of OO.o Base designate?
[05:37] <psycho_oreos> xubuntu, no I　think that's besides the point
[05:38] <crash1hd> computerx, thanks :)
[05:38] <luigi> Does stock ubuntu kernel have magic sysrq compiled in?
[05:38] <xubuntu> well if it will go online wired ill behappy i guess but its just really really super freakin stupid its not rocket science
[05:39] <daniel> what about something that backs up all the data on my hard drive to an external hard drive.  And allows me to see all the files I backed up and restore only certain ones
[05:39] <psycho_oreos> xubuntu, stupid for what? wireless driver support with broadcom wireless under linux to be supporting your broadcom chipset? if that's the case I challenge you to support b43 devs
 does ubuntu have an option as to whether or not it keeps alist of recent files/folders?
[05:40] <computerx> new1:  I was looking for you, but got interrupted having a question of my own answered, sec
[05:40] <computerx> new1:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91154
 thanks.
[05:42] <xubuntu> kids hack into govt computers and buntu cant go online with wireless
[05:42] <xubuntu> sumthin wrong there
[05:42] <computerx> If it bothers you that much, help out! Write the drivers for us!
[05:42] <xubuntu> u know
[05:42] <psycho_oreos> indeed
[05:42] <xubuntu> if i was like that i would
[05:42] <computerx> Please, because then we get less hassle from angry people coming in complaining no one has done it yet ;)
[05:43] <xubuntu> cuz a real computer person could
[05:43] <psycho_oreos> then quit whinging just because ubuntu doesn't have support for it, its not ubuntu's fault. If anything its broadcom's fault
[05:43] <new1> does that work on unity?
[05:43] <computerx> xubuntu: I've been programming for 19 years, I can even do assembler pretty well. I'm not capable of writing the wireless driver you ask for. It's not as simple as you think.
 does that work on unity as well?
[05:44] <computerx> The recent files?
[05:44] <new1> yes
[05:44] <computerx> *probably*... It's still basically gnome anyway
[05:45] <new1> ok. caveat noted. :)
[05:45] <xubuntu> well its stil a cool computer it runs vista wirelss and the guy im sellin it too will just have to use his cat5 for good ole ubuntu
[05:46] <xubuntu> same sheat different day
[05:46] <centHOGG> ^
[05:46] <new1> sosdd
[05:46] <psycho_oreos> the guy who you sell your `cool' computer to may actually be more diligent and less whinging than you are
[05:47] <xubuntu> pffft
[05:47] <new1> lol
[05:47] <xubuntu> heck i wont be winin much longer im gonna dump it
[05:47] <new1> overall, 11.04 is much better than windows.
[05:47] <centHOGG> lol
[05:48] <new1> tho i'm still gonna keep my antique xp system.
[05:48] <xubuntu> i got tons of xp
[05:48] <centHOGG> xp rox
[05:48] <new1> i'm curious to see just how long i can keep it going.
[05:49] <xubuntu> after i tweaked this nutty vista thing i got ut runnin good though
[05:49] <computerx> Crazy man
[05:49] <new1> nutty vista! haha :)
[05:49] <xubuntu> yeah 3 min boot time haha
[05:50] <psycho_oreos> !offtopic
[05:50] <xubuntu> thats why i dual booted ubuntu
[05:50] <bazhang> xubuntu, thats enough
[05:50] <xubuntu> enuf wut
[05:51] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat xubuntu
[05:51] <new1> which version of linux is best for dual-booting on an older system?
[05:51] <xubuntu> im talkin bout ubuntu
[05:51] <bazhang> new1, try lubuntu
[05:51] <Random832> new1: whichever version runs well on the older system at all - dual-booting has been a solved problem for quite some time
[05:51] <bazhang> !lubuntu | new1
[05:52] <jiohdi> new1 you can use gnome-openbox on old machines too
[05:52] <jiohdi> or just plain openbox
 will that work on a laptop running xp pro w/sp3 and a p4m cpu?
[05:52] <bazhang> new1, whats the ram
[05:53] <computerx> A male sheep
[05:53] <Tech-1> lol
[05:53] <bazhang> computerx, not helpful
[05:53] <xubuntu> yes ive run lubuntu on a p4 with 512 ram runs good
 256mb.
[05:53] <computerx> I woke up at 5:30 with crippling tooth ache following a surgical wisdom tooth extraction. If it makes me laugh, it's helpful :p
[05:53] <jiohdi> if all else fails, you can always use tinycore and puppy
[05:54] <bazhang> computerx, not here. take the chit chat elsewhere
[05:54] <xubuntu> it will run on 256 ram new1
 ok. thanks.
[05:55] <new1> i am rather fond of the old thing.
[05:55] <new1> can i use wubi on it?
[05:56] <jiohdi> wubi has very bad hazzards
[05:56] <mydearxym> hi all
[05:56] <jiohdi> or at least used to
[05:56] <new1> oh
[05:56] <Boban73> hi
[05:56] <jiohdi> it worked fine until the first update then it crashed and burned and made my system unbootable
[05:57] <new1> so i just install lubuntu on a separate partition?
[05:57] <jiohdi> that is best
[05:57] <jiohdi> grub2 will find the other os
[05:57] <new1> ok. it's a 20gb hard drive.
[05:57] <jiohdi> plenty of room
[05:58] <xubuntu> how much space is gone from xp new1
[05:59] <new1> i still have 14gb of free space.
[05:59] <xubuntu> o thats plenty
[05:59] <new1> i've had it for 10 years, and still haven't gotten anywhere near full.
[06:00] <xubuntu> u can make a swap partition of 512mb to give u a lil extra ram
[06:00] <jiohdi> my first computer had a 500meg hd and I thought that was huge back then
[06:00] <new1> the ram itself is upgradable, if i can find any.
[06:01] <Arcademan> May I ask did you guys drop libtcl8.5.so :)
[06:01] <REK_007> anyway way to control mouse movement and keyboard keys via a xbox controller ?
[06:01] <REK_007> something like Xpadder ?
[06:01] <gaelfx> xubuntu: depending on what you're doing, swap is not always the best solution
 lol
[06:01] <xubuntu> true but at this point new1 is simply asking if it will run it
[06:02] <xubuntu> ram for old laptops is cheep now on ebay....almosr free
[06:02] <zykotick9> REK_007, you could try xserver-xorg-input-joystick
[06:03] <REK_007> zykotick9:  thanks will try that
 ok. will go looking.
[06:03] <gaelfx> new1: what pincount and bus speed are you looking for?
[06:05] <apporc> hello ,everyone . i use network-manager to connnect to my wlan. and just when i am using it , it failed to connect again. i didn't change anything. and log is here:http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/87270
[06:06] <REK_007> zykotick9: how do i configure it ?
[06:06] <zykotick9> REK_007, sorry i don't know - i've gotten it to move the cursor no problem, but buttons where always my issue.  Good luck.
[06:07] <REK_007> ok :) no problem :)
[06:07] <apporc> when i disable wireless networking and reable it . everything goes well now.
[06:08] <nova_hg> hello every body!
[06:08] <alucardromero-m> hiyee ;)
[06:08] <gaelfx> apparently you don't want to greet the bots?
[06:09] <administrator> hello
[06:09] <administrator> leaving
 IDK pincount/bus speed. But installed RAM is 256MB PC2100S DDR 133 CL2 32MX64 SDRAM, if that helps. Upgradeable to 1GB.
[06:12] <gaelfx> oof, DDR 133, that's...fun
[06:12] <airtonix> #hardware
[06:12] <new1> lol :)
[06:13] <apporc> hello ,everyone . i use network-manager to connnect to my wlan. and just when i am using it , it failed to connect again. i didn't change anything. and log is here:http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/87270
[06:13] <apporc> after i disable wireless networking and reable it . everything goes well now.
[06:14] <jaybutts> wtf I saw Dropped text.txt on my desktop and thought I got hacked for a minute
 It's a Gateway 450sx4 that runs a bit hot.
[06:15] <gaelfx> new1: you probably oughta go in with a can of air and clear out all the bunnies, but even so, it'll probably stil be fairly warm in there
 I've already done that, and replaced the heatsink/cpu fan, plus a new thermal pad. But it still runs hot. SpeedFan says avg. 60c.
[06:18] <JoeR1> I hear that there is a built in method for mounting ISO's in Ubuntu, what would that be?
[06:18] <new1> It's a Pentium 4 M 1.40GHz cpu.
[06:18] <gaelfx> new1: well, I'm guessing it probably pulls a lotta power to run on those huge transistors it's got ;)
[06:18] <jaybutts> thermal pad ...theres yer problem, get some thermal paste and get it on there good
[06:18] <new1> hahaha
[06:18] <bazhang> !iso | JoeR1
[06:18] <zoLevDotCom> hi
[06:19] <jaybutts> good cpu jizz is REQUIRED its not an option, like artic silver or whatever the kids are callin it these days
 The original heatsink had a thermal pad on it.
[06:19] <elljay> hi, if I want to capture a log of my terminal while running a .jar file how would I go about it? Way too much information to simply copy and paste.
[06:19] <bazhang> new1, jaybutts ##hardware please
[06:20] <link307> does anyone know any twitter & facebook ipv6 hosts?
[06:20] <link307> i need some
[06:21] <borsti> moin
[06:26] <serene> join #rubik
[06:29] <mr_e_panda> my ubuntu 10.04 is not playing dvds.
[06:30] <mr_e_panda> already installed the restricted extras
[06:30] <bazhang> !dvd | mr_e_panda
[06:30] <mukti> I have two microphones that were detected when I did the sytem testing (System>Administration>System Testing)
[06:30] <bazhang> mr_e_panda, get libdvdcss2 from medibuntu.org
[06:30] <mukti> However, I cannot see them in /dev/audio
[06:30] <mukti> infact, /dev/audio does not exist
[06:30] <mukti> does anyone know why this is?
[06:33] <mr_e_panda> i've already installed the restricted extras and done the extra step on the terminal
[06:33] <bazhang> mr_e_panda, get the package from medibuntu.org as I suggested?
[06:33] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, dvd playback isn't in restricted-extras
[06:34] <mr_e_panda> not yet. i thought it was installed when you installed libdvdread4
[06:34] <mr_e_panda> working on getting it
[06:35] <mukti> Does anyone know why my microphones are not appearing in /dev/audio? Or are they supposed to appear somewhere else?
[06:35] <mr_e_panda> i've always done that when installing libdvdread4 with past releases
[06:35] <rhin0> mukti - try 'alsamixer' from bash shell if you like -- I recall that has microphone controls on it -- mahybe it will get you up and running
[06:35] <urlin2u> mr_e_panda, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[06:35] <rhin0> its a good sound control utility -- controls all inputs/outputs - well presented
[06:36] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, FYI the libdvdread4 package actually just installs libdvdcss2 from medibuntu
[06:36] <rhin0> mukti: at least you can check from that whether your system has microphone configured at all
[06:37] <mr_e_panda> right. i downloaded it and it says it's already installed
[06:37] <Geoffrey2> I have an application I recently updated, and it looks like the name of the desktop file changed slightly...how can i check to see which version ubuntu is trying to load?
[06:37] <mr_e_panda> libdvdcss2 actually
[06:37] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, then run the install script
[06:37] <mukti> Could i be listed in /proc/asound ?
[06:38] <mr_e_panda> so reinstall it then?
[06:38] <mukti> I couldnt see them in alsamixer?
[06:38] <rhin0> Geoffrey2: you can right click on the icon and within "properties" you will find what it calls
[06:38] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, after install you have to run a script
[06:38] <mr_e_panda> what script do i run?
[06:38] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[06:39] <rhin0> mukti sounds like your system may not be configured for the mic
[06:39] <mr_e_panda> yes i've already run that script
[06:39] <mukti> rhin0: I can use the sound recorder, and it will playback what I record
[06:39] <mr_e_panda> still no dice
[06:39] <rhin0> sorry ask someone else no expert on  sound - F2 within "alsamixer" giver you the paths to the sound devices etc
[06:39] <mukti> I just don't know where to find it in the filesystem
[06:40] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, i know it's not very gnu/linux like - but i've always had to restart my systems to get it to work?
[06:40] <rhin0> I just checked alsamixer on my system - its the same ... no idea why you would want microhone control/display
[06:40] <rhin0> maybe look for a package mukti
[06:40] <mr_e_panda> lol
[06:40] <rhin0> ubuntu forums may have something on the issue
[06:40] <mr_e_panda> yea i hear you.
[06:40] <mr_e_panda> i've done that already too
[06:41] <Ramseize> is there a good alternative for bind9, im running a small vps 192mb memory. and it eats a lot of my memory, any ideas?
[06:41] <Geoffrey2> rhin0, where would I right click...in the Unity menu I can only launch it, or remove it from the unity menu....and in the Application menu, right clicking on icons does nothing....
[06:41] <rhin0> no ... on the icon on the dekstop
[06:41] <rhin0> ah - hang on thats unity -- I am talking about "classic desktop" -- no idea on unity sorry - but I know you can log into classic desktop
[06:41] <rhin0> unfamiliar with unity sorry Geoffrey2
[06:42] <rhin0> maybe log i into "classic desktop" select on login and you can see it there
[06:42] <mr_e_panda> n e other ideas>? i was thinking of reinstalling, but that's too much for this issue don't u think?
[06:43] <rhin0> theres a restricted formats howto mr_e_panda
[06:43] <rhin0> v plain
[06:43] <mr_e_panda> is it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[06:43] <urlin2u> mr_e_panda, you install the w32 codecs
[06:43] <rhin0> y3w
[06:43] <rhin0> yes thats the one
[06:43] <mr_e_panda> yes i've f olloed that
[06:43] <zykotick9> urlin2u, w32codecs and w64codecs have NOTHING to do with DVD playback
[06:44] <Geoffrey2> mr_e_panda, there is also another option for playing dvds in Ubuntu, besides libdvdcss2...it costs money, but it definitely works.....
[06:44] <rhin0> mr_e_panda: i've always got further by installing  vlc media player -- seems to play most things
[06:44] <mr_e_panda> i'm using amd64
[06:44] <mr_e_panda> i got vlc as well
[06:44] <rhin0> there are other packages
[06:44] <mr_e_panda> what is that other option?
[06:44] <mr_e_panda> the paid for one?
[06:44] <rhin0> don't do that
[06:44] <rhin0> there will be a way
[06:45] <Geoffrey2> a company called Fluendo came out with a linux native dvd player.....
[06:45] <urlin2u> zykotick9, non native media formats, is it not possible.
[06:45] <snufft> hey guys :)
[06:46] <mr_e_panda> what are the other options?
[06:46] <zykotick9> urlin2u, it's just not used for DVDs - for other files, sure
[06:46] <urlin2u> zykotick9, any fromat could be on ant dvd chill out bro, it is not if it will break anything.
[06:46] <new1> According to Installed SW, I have Configuration Editor. But I can't get it to show on the Applications so I can pin it to the Launcher.
[06:46] <urlin2u> format
[06:47] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, what error message are you getting?  if you have mplayer installed "mplayer dvd://1"
[06:47] <snufft> i'm a ubuntu n00b and am having a little trouble getting my sound working. i've grabbed the linux drivers from the realtek website, but am getting stuck on not having 'alsaconf'. i've read that it's been removed from alsa-utils (which i have installed), but now the best i can find is a mandriva package. does anyone know what I can do now?
[06:47] <Ramseize> hello guys, is there a way to limit bind9 memory?
[06:47] <mr_e_panda> mplayer is the default installed player right?
[06:47] <mneumonic> Hello
[06:47] <Geoffrey2> mr_e_panda, Fluendo has a native linux DVD player.....it costs money, and it's closed source, which is probably a turnoff for some...but I've used it for over a year now.....
[06:47] <mr_e_panda> let me bring it up
[06:48] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, media player != mplayer, no they aren't even close to the same, don't worry about mplayer.  What error are you currently getting?
[06:48] <mneumonic> How's everyone doing tonight?
[06:48] <mr_e_panda> From the default installed player it says "could not read from source"
[06:49] <urlin2u> mneumonic, grumpy lol
[06:49] <rhin0> keep asking now and again snufft --- sounds a simple problem ... what version ...what soundcard
[06:49] <mneumonic> Sorry to hear that.
[06:49] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, ya, that's the typical - no dvd support error i'd say.  Sorry I don't have any suggestions other then simply installing libdvdcss2 from medibuntu.  Best of luck.
[06:49] <mr_e_panda> yea, i already have that installed
[06:50] <mr_e_panda> it works on my other 10.04 machines
[06:50] <mr_e_panda> which are all amd64
[06:50] <mr_e_panda> weird
[06:50] <philipballew> i think i need to install propitery drivers, can someone help me with that
[06:50] <mr_e_panda> should i try re-installing ubuntu?
[06:50] <gaelfx> philipballew: what do you need proprietary drivers for specifically?
[06:50] <zykotick9> philipballew, for what device?  a graphcis card/ wireless?
[06:51] <snufft> rhin0: yeah, sounds simple enough :) i'm trying to hunt down more info on the soundcard as we speak :)
[06:51] <rhin0> stuff like that if its old will be dealt with -- there is also ubuntu forums for multiple last issues www.ubuntuforums.org I think it was
[06:51] <philipballew> gaelfx, zykotick9 well i bought a new monitor and now my desktop's screen is haywire. so i ssh'd into it, installed a driver via jocky-text but i might have installed the worg one as it doesnt work
[06:52] <philipballew> *wrong
[06:52] <zykotick9> philipballew, what card "lspci | grep -i vga" if you aren't sure.
[06:52] <urlin2u> mr_e_panda, try more than one dvd, there is also vlc which has a lot and will probably play the dvd's, and I also suggest w32 codecs, as additional stuff to have installed
[06:53] <mr_e_panda> vlc does not work either, i've tried round 5 diff dvds
[06:53] <mr_e_panda> =/
[06:53] <gaelfx> philipballew: yeah, let's see what card you're using
[06:53] <philipballew> gaelfx, zykotick9 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51G [GeForce 6100] (rev a2)
[06:53] <mr_e_panda> w32 are for 32 bits no?
[06:53] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, w64codecs
[06:53] <mr_e_panda> how do i get thos codes?
[06:54] <gaelfx> philipballew: did you restart the machine after installing the driver from Jockey?
[06:54] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, w64codecs is a package from medibuntu
[06:54] <urlin2u> mr_e_panda, maybe the reader is dirty or broken, have yo installed the other codecs inspite of the claim it is not for dvd's I have a few that wont play with out it
[06:54] <mr_e_panda> hmmm... i'm gonna get them from medibuntu right now
[06:54] <mr_e_panda> i've also used the default player
[06:54] <mr_e_panda> on ubuntu
[06:54] <mr_e_panda> and vlc
[06:54] <philipballew> gaelfx yeah.
[06:55] <mr_e_panda> also tried to back up some of my dvds, and brasero won't read them
[06:55] <philipballew> there were 3 options to install. i might have installed the wrong one gaelfx
[06:55] <new1> How do I open GConf-Editor?
[06:55] <gaelfx> philipballew: lemme take a look at which driver is compatible with that card, sometimes you need to use an older driver for older cards
[06:56] <zykotick9> new1, gconf-editor
[06:56] <urlin2u> mr_e_panda, totem is problematic I use vlc or smplayer, a front end for mplayer
[06:56] <mr_e_panda> ok installing them right now
[06:56] <mr_e_panda> i just downloaded mplayer as well
[06:57] <philipballew> http://paste.ubuntu.com/676403/ gaelfx
[06:57] <zykotick9> philipballew, seems to be a lot of issues with your Nvidia 6100.  Best of luck.
 I can't get it to show on Applications so I can pin it to the Launcher.
[06:57] <zykotick9> new1, sorry i have NO idea about Unity issues.
[06:58] <new1> ok. can i use command-line terminal to open it?
[06:58] <urlin2u> mr_e_panda, are you updated otherwise and the universe backports, and multiverse repos open.
[06:58] <zykotick9> new1, sure, or alt+f2 (i imagine that still works in Unity?)
[06:59] <mr_e_panda> i am updated
[06:59] <new1> yes. it works.
[06:59] <philipballew> what do you think gaelfx
[07:00] <new1> what do i type in?
[07:00] <mr_e_panda> ummm... how do i check the backports, and multiverse repos open?
[07:00] <urlin2u> mr_e_panda, open software sorces and look there.
[07:00] <urlin2u> sources
[07:00] <gaelfx> philipballew: one more question, 64-bit or 32-bit Ubuntu?
[07:00] <philipballew> 32 gaelfx
[07:01] <urlin2u> mr_e_panda, you running lucid?
[07:01] <mr_e_panda> 10.04
[07:01] <mr_e_panda> LTS
[07:01] <mr_e_panda> and yes they are open
[07:01] <urlin2u> mr_e_panda, cool
[07:02] <gaelfx> philipballew: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-280.13-driver.html
[07:02] <mr_e_panda> didn't work with the w64 codecs btw
[07:03] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, it's because they don't have anything to do with dvd playback
[07:03] <philipballew> gaelfx, should i uninstall the one i installed?
[07:03] <mr_e_panda> right
[07:03] <gaelfx> philipballew: the instructions for how to install that are on the page as well, however, keep in mind that if you install any kernel updates, you'll have to reinstall the driver yourself
[07:03] <mr_e_panda> i figured
[07:03] <new1> What do I type into the terminal to open config editor?
[07:03] <mr_e_panda> mplayer is only cli?
[07:03] <gaelfx> philipballew: disabling it should be enough, but you can uninstall it if you should so desire
[07:03] <zykotick9> mr_e_panda, "mplayer" is cli yes - there are front ends -- try "mplayer dvd://1"
[07:03] <philipballew> gaelfx, how does this better over trying one of the other 3. also how do i install it
[07:04] <gaelfx> philipballew: you might want to try installing the latest driver in Jockey (it looks like you installed an older driver initially, so try the new one before installing yourself)
[07:04] <bullgard6> What does the 2nd field of the status bar of OO.o Base designate?
[07:04] <urlin2u> funny I have dvd's that need them
[07:04] <mr_e_panda> ok it sees it
[07:05] <philipballew> gaelfx, do you know how uninstall a driver from jocky-text
[07:05] <mr_e_panda> but it didn't play
 ^^
[07:05] <mr_e_panda> i get this on mplayer
[07:05] <mr_e_panda> libdvdread: Error cracking CSS key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_0.VOB (0x0037cf56)
[07:05] <zykotick9> new1, "gconf-editor"
[07:06] <new1> ok
[07:06] <bullgard6> new1: gconf-editor
[07:06] <new1> thanks
[07:06] <gaelfx> philipballew: hang on
[07:06] <philipballew> oh. alright :) gaelfx
[07:06] <new1> i'm going to find out if it's anything like regedit in xp.
[07:07] <urlin2u> zykotick9, mr_e_panda http://www.debianadmin.com/install-libdvdcss-and-w32-video-codecs-in-debian-and-ubuntu.html    http://www.divx.com/en/electronics/categories/dvd-players   It may have not worked in this case .
[07:07] <gaelfx> philipballew: I really think you should try the newer driver that's available in Jockey already
[07:08] <gaelfx> philipballew: it's a much simpler solution, assuming it works
[07:08] <philipballew> i am goin to. i was just wondering how i disable the one i installed
[07:08] <philipballew> gaelfx, ^
[07:09] <new1> bbl. thanks. :)
[07:09] <gaelfx> philipballew: I believe jockey will take care of that for you
[07:10] <gaelfx> philipballew: also, if you do 'man jockey-text' or 'jockey-text --help' it should tell you what kinds of options you can use with jockey-text
[07:11] <philipballew> alright. ill let you know how it goes :) gaelfx
[07:12] <gaelfx> philipballew: for example: jockey-text -l will tell you what drivers are available
[07:13] <gaelfx> philipballew: and jockey-text -d [DRIVERNAME] will disable the driver you want to disable
[07:13] <philipballew> alright. i disabled the driver i was using and now im installing the new driver gaelfx
[07:14] <gaelfx> philipballew: cool, lemme know if it works
[07:15] <CyclingTux> Quit
[07:16] <gaelfx> Never!
[07:16] <gaelfx> when the meek get pinched, the bold survive
[07:21] <JoeR1> urlin2u, Care to keep trying or have you had enough of this issue?
[07:22] <urlin2u> JoeR1, sure
[07:23] <urlin2u> JoeR1, you don't have a live cd of the install am I correct?   Also some times things just break and need reinstalled
[07:24] <urlin2u> to be*
[07:25] <zelozelos> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:25] <zelozelos> oops
[07:26] <whiz_> hey my workspaces aren't acting right -- the contents in them seem to move around to different workspaces when moving to a new/different one
[07:26] <JoeR1> urlin2u, Well I am still optimistic because the file system is intact, but yes - I do not have a working live cd, USB booting is non functional and I think i just though of a way to fix this
[07:26] <JoeR1> How is 11.10?
[07:26] <whiz_> i'm still on 5.04
[07:26] <centHOGG> heh
[07:27] <tricaric> Hi, I see that my wifi does a scan every 2 minutes, making the bandwidth drop for a few seconds each time. I would like to increase the scan period from 2 minutes to something like 10 minutes or so, but I cannot find how to configure that, any idea? thanks!
[07:27] <zelozelos> just made my 1st theme for glx dock for ubuntu  goto http://gnome-look.org/?xsection=home tell me what u think
[07:28] <JoeR1> urlin2u, Do you know a way I can check the exact version of the live cd I am using?
[07:28] <zelozelos> about ubuntu
[07:28] <urlin2u> JoeR1, I just loaded the super grub 1.3 to a thumb I will reboot to see if it works.
[07:28] <zelozelos> or help, about ubuntu
[07:31] <Astrology> which command can set my ubuntu's system time ?
[07:32] <Astrology> if that command can open a GUI setting, it is better
[07:33] <urlin2u> JoeR1, so my thumb loaded using unetbootin did not work, this is why I use a cd, yes I rember you don't have one.
[07:33] <JoeR1> urlin2u, I have an alternate idea or two
[07:33] <urlin2u> JoeR1, okay.:D
[07:34] <bullgard6> Astrology: In GNOME 2, click on the applet Time&Date , then Clock Preferences , then Time Settings.
[07:34] <JoeR1> well shall see if I am successful
[07:34] <JoeR1> brb
[07:34] <Astrology> bullgard6: very sorry, I am under awesome, that's why I ask for a command to set time.
[07:35] <bullgard6> Astrology: Next time you better place a more precise question in this channel.
[07:35] <Astrology> bullgard6: ok, my fault.
[07:35] <zykotick9> Astrology, installing ntpdate then using "ntpdate NTPSERVER" might be easiest solution
[07:36] <Astrology> zykotick9: Thanks very much
[07:36] <zykotick9> Astrology, NTP = Network Time Protocol, this synchronizes your time with a server online
[07:37] <happygolucky> Astrology: also hwclock
[07:41] <Astrology> happygolucky: good idea.
[07:41] <defendguin> is it possible to get a iso for 11.10?  i'd like to give it a spin running form a usb drive
[07:42] <zykotick9> defendguin, i'd check the topic of #ubuntu+1
[07:43] <zykotick9> defendguin, i hear it's a hybrid ISO/USB - so you should be able to just cat/dd it to USB now.
[07:43] <alex_under> hello, can someone tell me how do I reset ALSA configs ?
[07:43] <_BadBoy_> hello what command i use to see the ipconfig in the terminal?
[07:43] <zykotick9> _BadBoy_, ifconfig
[07:43] <_BadBoy_> ty
[07:43] <_BadBoy_> :)
[07:44] <alex_under> I've tried to install the realtek version of alsa, and now I get Module snd_seq_midi not found and snd_rawmidi not found.
[07:44] <defendguin> zykotick9: thanks
[07:45] <jaybutts> how do u show buddy list with this empathy thingamajig
[07:46] <zykotick9> jaybutts, my personal recommendation would be to use a real IRC client for IRCing  - xchat is a popular GUI client, while irssi is popular CLI client
[07:46] <jaybutts> server down need to send message
[07:46] <bullgard6> !alsa | alex_under
[07:47] <jaybutts> pidgin &
[07:48] <oooaaaooo> hi guys i have a quick question about the encrypted volume option when i first installed ubuntu; how do i get the passphrase again after the initial first boot reminder?
[07:49] <jaybutts> zykotick9: your suggesting I shouldn't use irssi?
[07:49] <alex_under> bullgard6: well, the problem is that sound worked, but the mic didn't .... now I have no sound and no mic and I want to reinstall the old alsa as it was.
[07:49] <zykotick9> jaybutts, it's popular with the cli types, not my fav - but you might LOVE it?  I'm not for or against it.
[07:49] <jaybutts> yea thats what im using
[07:50] <jaybutts> Im have empathy for jabber
[07:50] <scottj> zykotick9: if you're not for us you're against us :)
[07:50] <jaybutts> but I can't get the buddy list to show up
[07:50] <alex_under> bullgard6: if I try to remove alsa-base it says that it marks ubuntu-desktop, too
[07:50] <jaybutts> I normally use pidgin
[07:50] <urlin2u> oooaaaooo, ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase  in the terminal
[07:50] <zykotick9> scottj, i'm all for cli, but irssi isn't my thing - i find it very limited compared to xchat, but that's just me ;)
[07:51] <jaybutts> what do you mean by cli types?
[07:51] <zykotick9> jaybutts, CLI = command line interface (ie text)
[07:51] <bullgard6> alex_under: What have youdone that you havew no longer sound?
[07:51] <bullgard6> -w
[07:51] <jaybutts> oh ok
[07:51] <oooaaaooo> urlin2u: thanks. Its asking em for the passphrase...?
[07:51] <alex_under> bullgard6: tried to install realtek alsa
[07:51] <tomasz> lo
[07:51] <urlin2u> oooaaaooo, you mean the password.
[07:51] <tomasz> hello
[07:51] <jaybutts> yes I work with linux for a living so I prefer consoel
[07:51] <oooaaaooo> rootzilla@minizilla:~$ ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase
[07:51] <oooaaaooo> Passphrase:
[07:52] <jaybutts> consoel=cli
[07:53] <urlin2u> oooaaaooo, right you use the password that was originally used, generally the user password
[07:53] <oooaaaooo> urlin2u: did it mean to say su password when it asks for passphrase? Will there be any adverse effects if i put in the wrong password/phrase?
[07:53] <oooaaaooo> urlin2u: i.e. will i be locked out/
[07:53] <urlin2u> oooaaaooo, no use the regular user password
[07:53] <jaybutts> this fancy xwindows and ubuntu stuff is weird for me usually use windows on desktop but im in a shell 12 hours a day minimum
[07:54] <urlin2u> oooaaaooo, this ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase  then your user password
[07:54] <Zaknafein89> i need help
[07:54] <oooaaaooo> urlin2u: yup
[07:54] <zykotick9> !ask | Zaknafein89
[07:54] <attj> Hi, I downloaded ubuntu 11.04 64-bit from ubuntu.com, burned to CD and installed my computer. Ubuntu won't start after all this so i went to recovery mode and typed apt-get update & upgrade & dist-upgrade. But still ubuntu won't start, all it does is flashing the screen with ubuntu logo and those dots.
[07:54] <Zaknafein89> can't connect to ircnet from epathy??
[07:54] <Zaknafein89> empathy*
[07:55] <Zaknafein89> freenode connect's just fine..
[07:55] <gaelfx> Zaknafein89: that is unfortunately correct
[07:55] <Zaknafein89> so.. no fix?
[07:55] <zykotick9> attj, you might want to try the nomodeset kernel option, "/msg ubottu nomodeset" to see the factoid
[07:56] <gaelfx> Zaknafein89: oops, sorry, I misread that, I'm not really sure
[07:56] <jaybutts> how do you show the buddy list for empathy
[07:56] <bullgard6> alex_under: I do not know much about realtek specifics. -- You might invoke as a first try '~$ alsamixer' and analyze for wrong settings.
[07:56] <Zaknafein89> favorites and ungrouped
[07:58] <Thelmaria> Can I specify from ubuntu the next boot device in grub? I duel-boot, and from power-on->grub is a few minutes I have to wait if I don't want to boot into the default option.
[07:58] <alex_under> bullgard6: cannot open mixer: no such device
[07:58] <urlin2u> attj, you get the nomodeset option figured out?
[07:59] <alex_under> bullgard6: isn't a 'magic way' to return to default ? if I can't use the built-in mic, at least the sound :|
[08:00] <bullgard6> alex_under: Check with Synaptic if you have installeda package named gnome-alsamixer.
[08:00] <attj> urlin2u, not yet :)
[08:00] <alex_under> bullgard6: it's installed
[08:01] <attj> I have i5 cpu and ati graphic card if that matters
[08:01] <bullgard6> alex_under: This is a very general question. The most general way to return to default is to install Ubuntu anew. -- this is hardly what you want.
[08:01] <Moshanator> the1maria, try "grub-reboot #" where # is number of your grub entry
[08:01] <urlin2u> attj, you can use the recovery at the grub menu and choose failsafe in the next gui as well same thing basically
[08:02] <Thelmaria> Moshanator: Thanks very much indeed.
[08:02] <zykotick9> Moshanator, wow that's neat, thanks
[08:03] <fasta> Which files determine which users are on a system?
[08:03] <fasta> There is /etc/shadow, /etc/shadow- and?
[08:03] <alex_under> bullgard6: so that's the only way?
[08:03] <zykotick9> fasta, /etc/passwd actually?  /etc/shadow is the encrypted password files