[13:00] <plars> Hi
[13:01] <plars> err
[13:01] <plars> wc
[13:01] <plars> :)
[15:00] <ogra_> #startmeeting
[15:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Sep  8 15:00:15 2011 UTC.  The chair is ogra_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
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[15:00] <ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Meeting/2011/20110908
[15:00] <ogra_> [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Meeting/2011/20110908
[15:00] <ogra_> pfft
[15:00] <ogra_> who is here ?
[15:00]  * ogra_ fears only GrueMaster and me
[15:01]  * rbasak is here
[15:01] <GrueMaster> Zzzzz
[15:01] <ogra_> heh
[15:01] <rbasak> Daviey: ?
[15:01] <czajkowski> me to watch ogra_ chair another meeting!
[15:01]  * mrjazzcat lurks
[15:02] <ogra_> well, lets make this a quick one then, many team members are traveling (plumbers) or on vacation
[15:02]  * cmagina waves
[15:02] <ogra_> #topic action items
[15:02] <ogra_> there were none i could find on the wikipages
[15:02] <ogra_> eirther michael didnt update that or we had none :)
[15:02]  * ogra_ just assumes the latter for now
[15:03] <ogra_> #standing items
[15:03] <ogra_> http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-arm.html
[15:03] <ogra_> http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-arm-ubuntu-11.10-beta-2.html
[15:04] <ogra_> hmm, there are two persia items
[15:04] <ogra_> GrueMaster, any idea if he will work on them ?
[15:05] <GrueMaster> Let me look at them.
[15:05] <ogra_> hmm, i thought LTSP and NBD were assigned to me
[15:05] <GrueMaster> Not seeing any for persia.
[15:05] <ogra_> i wonder why they show up there
[15:05] <ogra_> GrueMaster, on the beta-2 page
[15:05] <ogra_> LUKS and LVM testing
[15:06] <ogra_> anyway, that seems all wrong all over
[15:06] <GrueMaster> Refresh or something.  I already completed the LVM and LUKS testing.
[15:06] <ogra_> [action] ogra to find out whats wrong with the tracker
[15:06] <meetingology> ACTION: ogra to find out whats wrong with the tracker
[15:06] <ogra_> BAH !!!!!
[15:06]  * ogra_ kicks chroimum
[15:07] <ogra_> the url came out of the cache ... i'm on ubuntu-armel
[15:07] <GrueMaster> I'm looking at the same links.  You have the LTSP & NBD items.
[15:07] <ogra_> sigh
[15:07] <ogra_> yeah, that looks better, sorry, my browser tricked me
[15:07] <GrueMaster> heh
[15:08] <ogra_> and imho it all looks fine
[15:08]  * ogra_ moves on
[15:08] <GrueMaster> I'm not sure what to do for SELinux.
[15:08] <ogra_> #topic server status NCommander, Daviey
[15:08] <ogra_> GrueMaster, given we generally treat it as a nice to have in ubuntu i think that could slip to P as long as apparmor is fine
[15:08]  * GrueMaster will come back to WI issues in QA section.
[15:09]  * rsalveti just noticed that the linaro related topic is not at the wiki
[15:09] <ogra_> do we have anything for server status
[15:09] <ogra_> rsalveti, feel free to add it :) just tell me when to reload
[15:09] <rbasak> What needs doing for ARM server and how can I help?
[15:09] <GrueMaster> rbasak: Mainly testing.
[15:09] <ogra_> rbasak, well, the gusy caring for it seem to not be around, but generally we can need help with QA and the like
[15:10] <rbasak> apart from testing is there anything else?
[15:10] <ogra_> there are so many server apps ...
[15:10] <ogra_> and while GrueMaster does an awesome job, he cant test all of it alone
[15:10] <rsalveti> ogra_: done
[15:10] <ogra_> NCommand1r, anything from you to add for the server topic ? (since you are around)
[15:11] <ogra_> doesnt look like
[15:11] <rbasak> So to help with testing, I'll speak to GrueMaster about what I can do later shall I?
[15:11] <rbasak> Or if not, who?
[15:11] <ogra_> rbasak, well, generally we are all available in #ubuntu-arm in our awake hours
[15:11] <ogra_> lets carry that to there after the meeting
[15:12] <rbasak> OK
[15:12]  * ogra_ moves on
[15:12] <GrueMaster> rbasak: Take a look at http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/u/gruemaster.html and feel free to pull any open WI (just let me know which).
[15:12] <ogra_> #topic kernel status ppisati, cooloney
[15:12] <ogra_> hmm, neitrher of them is around
[15:13] <ogra_> rsalveti, any intresting kernel bits on your side we should know about ?
[15:13]  * ogra_ saw someone is fiddling with sound stuff
[15:13] <GrueMaster> It would appear that the USB SMP issue has been resolved.  I am doing testing on the new kernel now.
[15:13] <Daviey> gah!
[15:13] <ogra_> Daviey, shoudl we re-visit ?
[15:13] <rsalveti> ogra_: sound should be sorted at the current omap 4 package
[15:13] <ogra_> rsalveti, including userspace ?
[15:13] <rsalveti> ogra_: yeah, someone updated the alsa ucm configs
[15:13] <ogra_> i think i read thats still missing
[15:13] <rsalveti> ogra_: will check what is needed to make it work later today
[15:14] <ogra_> thanks, if you need anything on our side feel free to chase me down :)
[15:14] <rsalveti> ogra_: and I'm now just waiting the TI update on the SGX side
[15:14] <Daviey> ogra_: It really needs to be NCommander and GrueMaster providing an update.. I'm empty ;(
[15:14] <GrueMaster> Cool.  Will keep an eye out for it on the next desktop image.
[15:14] <rsalveti> to see if we're still missing any related patch to make it work properly with latest kernel
[15:14] <ogra_> yeah
[15:15] <ogra_> ac100 kernel is still pending an update to the latest tree tip btw
[15:15] <ogra_> (it carries the USB patch too, and apparently USB throughput went from 7M/s to over 20)
[15:15] <ogra_> any more stuff for kernel ?
[15:15] <rsalveti> yup :-)
[15:15] <rsalveti> ogra_: nops
[15:16] <ogra_> Daviey, GrueMaster will give a QA update, does that suffice ? NCommand1r is on vac. he would give updates i fear
[15:16] <ogra_> #topic ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo)
[15:16] <ogra_> ftbfs page looks good :)
[15:17] <ogra_> nothing pressing
[15:17] <rsalveti> nops, lot of help from folks to get the ftbfs related bugs fixed
[15:17]  * ogra_ dug a bit into the vlc issues the last days ... that will be fixded once Qt is updated
[15:17] <doko> ogra_, it's not complete ;)
[15:18] <ogra_> doko, according to nokia it is fixed in the version we plan to pull
[15:18] <ogra_> or is there anything required on the vlc side ?
[15:18] <doko> rsalveti, did you tag gcc ICE's too?
[15:19] <rsalveti> doko: afaik, yes
[15:19] <rsalveti> will double check
[15:19] <ogra_> anything else for ftbfs ?
[15:19] <doko> rsalveti (and janimo): please open a gcc-4.x task for those too, and best attach the preprocessed source
[15:20] <rsalveti> doko: sure, fair enough
[15:20] <ogra_> jani is on vacation
[15:20] <ogra_> like nearly everyone in the arm team atm
[15:20] <rsalveti> interesting time to have vacations
[15:20] <rsalveti> before the release hehe :-)
[15:20] <ogra_> well ... i'm not granting them, dont complain to me :)
[15:20]  * ogra_ moves on
[15:20] <rsalveti> sure, just saying :-)
[15:21] <ogra_> #topic ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander)
[15:21] <ogra_> failed today once again due to archive skew
[15:21] <ogra_> (ubiquity was just building on armel when the images attempted to build)
[15:21] <GrueMaster> yep, noticed.
[15:21] <ogra_> generally they should be fine
[15:21] <ogra_> ac100 has an issue with initrd size i hopefully have fixed now
[15:21]  * rsalveti hates launchpad search
[15:22] <ogra_> oh, and ac100 is now semi official
[15:22] <ogra_> we can blog about it etc
[15:22] <ogra_> other than that, i'm a bit desparate with the mx5 images
[15:22] <ogra_> while i can finish the livefs building, i dont have the HW and no clue what code we need to make it bootable
[15:23]  * GrueMaster wonders if they will happen this cycle.
[15:23] <ogra_> GrueMaster, i wasnt aware that jani is off this week
[15:23] <ogra_> that indeed puts us way behind
[15:23] <ogra_> i would have needed him for finishing it
[15:23] <GrueMaster> Well, we "should" have had them shortly after the rally.  Just saying.
[15:24] <ogra_> we didnt have the HW at any place where someone had time to work on it
[15:25] <ogra_> it wont take more than one or two days to implement it ... effectively we only need to add the arch to the config
[15:25] <rsalveti> ogra_: what else is needed to publish images for imx53?
[15:25] <ogra_> buit it will need plenty testbuilds which is time consuming
[15:25] <ogra_> rsalveti, only the debian-cd bits and editing a config file for cdimage, we have the livefs builds ready
[15:26] <ogra_> its just the post-processing for u-boot or whatever bootloader
[15:26] <rsalveti> hm, ok
[15:26] <ogra_> mkimage calls etc
[15:26] <rsalveti> sounds like 1, 2 days of work
[15:26] <ogra_> irts really trivial if i have the HW
[15:26] <ogra_> less
[15:27] <rsalveti> ok
[15:27] <ogra_> 1/2 day but 3 days for testbuilds etc
[15:27] <rsalveti> yeah...
[15:27] <ogra_> which is mainly blocking due to archive skew
[15:28] <ogra_> i usually fix more archive skew than i actually do anything on the images if i need to testbuild :P
[15:28] <ogra_> anyway
[15:28] <ogra_> thast all from me for images
[15:28] <ogra_> anything else ?
[15:28] <ogra_> #topic QA Status (GrueMaster, mahmoh)
[15:28]  * ogra_ leans back
[15:29] <GrueMaster> Still being bogged down by bug 806751. With it, I have to manually create a netboot image to get through install.
[15:29] <GrueMaster> iSCSI working to a point.  Now blocked by bug 838809 (as are all other archs).
[15:29] <GrueMaster> AoE tested fine as remote disk.  No information on how to setup for diskless boot.
[15:29] <ogra_> hrm, where is the bugbot
[15:29]  * GrueMaster wakes bugbot.
[15:30] <GrueMaster> ubottu: hello?
[15:30] <ogra_> well, the first should be fixed if michael is back
[15:30] <GrueMaster> Heh, sure.
[15:30]  * ogra_ just uses #ubuntu-arm's bugbot :)
[15:31] <ogra_> i doubt we have any initrd support for AOE booting
[15:31] <ogra_> so that should all be fine
[15:31] <GrueMaster> Well, other than those, I am still steamrollering through the server test workitems.
[15:31] <ogra_> Daviey, what else do you want from GrueMaster ?
[15:32] <GrueMaster> Oh, I also ran into a curious issue with SD cards that are used only for bootloader/kernel.  Seems that once they have been booted off of, they can not be removed from the system without the system going wonky.
[15:33] <GrueMaster> I.e. you can't swap SD cards and expect to be able to read them.  The kernel refuses to refresh the partition tables.
[15:34] <ogra_> yeahm, thats a very weird behavior
[15:34] <ogra_> and not easy to explain, did you talk to any bootloader guys (jcrigby, sakoman etc) ?
[15:34] <GrueMaster> Not sure if it is a kernel issue or a u-boot issue.  Kind of leaning to the u-boot, as I have seen this when doing netinstall over pxe, and only using SD for MLO/u-boot.bin.
[15:34] <GrueMaster> Not yet.
[15:35] <ogra_> would be intresting to know if it happens in the other case too
[15:35] <ogra_> i.e. with root on SD
[15:35] <ogra_> how do you copy the SD ? binary (dd) or do you format the vfat by hand etc
[15:35] <GrueMaster> With root on SD it is bound to happen.  Linux doesn't like swapping out the rootfs.
[15:36] <ogra_> well, yeah for a comparison you would have to copy the rootfs too
[15:36] <GrueMaster> Because of bug 806751, I have to manually format the SD.
[15:36] <ogra_> ah, indeed
[15:37] <ogra_> well, definitely worth filing a bug for ... even though i fear it wont be high prio
[15:37] <GrueMaster> And the netboot images are so off as far as CHS goes, that I have to completely blast the SD and repartition/reformat from a different system.
[15:37] <Daviey> ogra_: Really, want to look at automating the tests
[15:37] <GrueMaster> I already have filed a bug on this.
[15:37] <ogra_> Daviey, well, implement kvm or libvirt support in arm kernels
[15:38] <Daviey> ogra_: GrueMaster has done a nice job of creating some complex test cases which we would find useful on tadional arches aswell.
[15:38] <ogra_> seems our testsuites cant eat anything else
[15:38] <Daviey> ogra_: But not much use, until ARM can be part of the automated testing infrastructure.
[15:38] <GrueMaster> Daviey: I am more than wanting to automate them.  Unfortunately, I have to do a ton of research for each test usually just to get them to work.
[15:38] <ogra_> Daviey, right, buit due to missing kvm its hard to automate them
[15:38] <Daviey> ogra_: No, using linvirt and kvm is the wrong approach :)
[15:38] <GrueMaster> I agree with that.
[15:39] <ogra_> i think we should put the automating on our plate for the P cycle and move that stuff to generic qemu
[15:39] <ogra_> with a joined tream effort
[15:39] <ogra_> *team
[15:39] <GrueMaster> We need to make sure all of our server tests can run on raw systems as well as kvm.
[15:39] <Daviey> ogra_: The same functionality needs to be created external to libvirt to support it for bare metal
[15:39] <ogra_> GrueMaster, well, kvm is essential qemu with kernel support
[15:40] <ogra_> so it should be possible to switch to plain qemu
[15:40] <Daviey> ogra_: it requires collaboration between the arm team, server team and QA.
[15:40] <ogra_> yes
[15:40] <ogra_> Daviey, i think thats a good P target :)
[15:40] <Daviey> :)
[15:40] <ogra_> hello ubott2 and ubottu
[15:40] <ogra_> :)
[15:40] <ogra_> bug 12345
[15:40] <ogra_> hmm
[15:40]  * GrueMaster will add a spec for joint collaboration.
[15:41] <Daviey> ogra_ / GrueMaster: we'll need to get our thinking caps on for UDS.
[15:41] <ogra_> GrueMaster, hmm, that did come out differently than intended, but i wont complain
[15:41] <rbasak> What about the discussion about having nova support instantiating metal?
[15:41] <ogra_> Daviey, well, we have a wikipage to collect such stuff :)
[15:42] <ogra_> anything else for QA ?
[15:42] <Daviey> GrueMaster: I'm expecting QA to drive it, with you offering ARM guidance (and rbasak), with jamespage offering Jenkins help.
[15:42] <GrueMaster> Sounds good.
[15:42] <GrueMaster> I have nothing else.
[15:42]  * ogra_ moves
[15:42] <rbasak> If we want openstack support then it needs to be discussed at this upcoming ODS doesn't it?
[15:42]  * Daviey dances
[15:43] <Daviey> rbasak: in part, yes
[15:43] <ogra_> #topic linaro (rsalveti)
[15:43] <ogra_> rbasak, i think the basics are there already
[15:43] <rsalveti> updated list for 11.09 https://launchpad.net/linaro-ubuntu/+milestone/11.09
[15:43] <ogra_> NCommander worked on getting LXC working on arm
[15:44] <ogra_> so openstack on top of that should not be to much work
[15:44] <rsalveti> we should be updating the linux-linaro packages at oneiric probably next week
[15:44] <ogra_> great
[15:44] <rsalveti> and hopefully trying a FFe for libjeg-turbo
[15:44] <rsalveti> at least for universe
[15:44] <ogra_> what do we have to expect from the upstream sync of u-boot ?
[15:45] <ogra_> any possible issues
[15:45] <rsalveti> ogra_: we don't expect any major changes
[15:45] <ogra_> good
[15:45] <rsalveti> just basically syncing our own modifications
[15:45] <GrueMaster> rsalveti: Does the usb smp patch need to be applied to u-boot?
[15:45] <ogra_> whats that android components for ubuntu ?
[15:46] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: not that I know
[15:46] <ogra_> adb shell ?
[15:46] <rsalveti> ogra_: yup
[15:46] <ogra_> cool
[15:46] <rsalveti> for u-boot, we may need a package update for blaze
[15:46] <GrueMaster> PXE on more platforms interests me.
[15:46] <ogra_> yeah
[15:46] <rsalveti> just saw sebastian posted some patches for fixes
[15:47] <ogra_> how about multiarch ? any breakage we need to be prepared for ?
[15:47]  * GrueMaster would like to see omap first, then others (mx53, etc).
[15:47] <rsalveti> ogra_: not atm, just small bug fixes
[15:47] <ogra_> good
[15:47] <rsalveti> for major changes we're just pushing to debian
[15:47] <rsalveti> to sync at P
[15:47] <ogra_> thats a good idea
[15:48] <Daviey> bug 827705 seems to be a linaro task, how is that going?
[15:48] <Daviey> urgh
[15:48] <Daviey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/u-boot-linaro/+bug/827705
[15:48]  * ogra_ hopes asac will hold a talk at UDS "what is star rating" :)
[15:48] <rsalveti> and we'll have gcc-linaro packages too, but not for oneiric
[15:49] <rsalveti> that's all from my side
[15:49] <ogra_> any comment for Daviey ?
[15:49] <rsalveti> let me check
[15:49] <ogra_> seems lool alerady added a patch
[15:50] <rsalveti> I think that's fixed already
[15:50] <rsalveti> will check
[15:50] <ogra_> yeah, likely slipped the papaerwork
[15:50] <lool> I did, yes
[15:51] <ogra_> doesnt sound like it would boot with that bug still in place
[15:51] <lool> I sent it to upstream and to John; I think it's in?
[15:51] <rsalveti> I think so, will check with john
[15:51] <GrueMaster> Shows as Fix Committed as of 8/18
[15:51] <ogra_> GrueMaster, not in ubuntu
[15:52] <ogra_> but i think thats just an oversight
[15:52] <GrueMaster> In u-boot-linaro.
[15:52] <rsalveti> http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=boot/u-boot-linaro-stable.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/Linaro-u-boot-2011.08
[15:52] <rsalveti> yup, seems to be in
[15:52] <ogra_> great, can someone close it
[15:52] <ogra_> Daviey, you happy ?
[15:52] <rsalveti> 2011.08.6-0ubuntu2
[15:52] <GrueMaster> I can close it.
[15:52] <rsalveti> ubuntu is using the latest tag already
[15:53]  * ogra_ thought so
[15:53] <ogra_> i wonder if we should just drop the upstream/downstream distinction for linaro packages that fully live in ubuntu anyway
[15:53] <GrueMaster> What about the u-boot and u-boot (ubuntu) tags?  Isn't that an old tree?
[15:53] <ogra_> seems to add confusion
[15:55] <GrueMaster> Ok.  Marked them as invalid, and marked Linaro U-Boot & u-boot-linaro (ubuntu) as Fix Released.
[15:55] <ogra_> greaqt
[15:55] <ogra_> anything else ?
[15:55] <Daviey> ogra_: over the mon
[15:55]  * ogra_ moves then
[15:55] <ogra_> #topic AOB
[15:55]  * ogra_ has nothing
[15:55] <ogra_> anyone ?
[15:56] <ogra_> sounds like not ...
[15:56] <ogra_> going once
[15:56] <ogra_> going twice
[15:56]  * GrueMaster remains silent.
[15:56] <ogra_> sold to the man with the funny hat
[15:56] <ogra_> #ednmeeting
[15:56] <ogra_> #endmeeting
[15:56] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Sep  8 15:56:35 2011 UTC.
[15:56] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-09-08-15.00.moin.txt
[15:56] <ogra_> grr, i make the same typo *every time*
[15:56] <ogra_> thanks everyone
[17:00] <pedro_> time for the meeting?
[17:01] <bdmurray> indeed
[17:03] <bdmurray> #startmeeting
[17:03] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Sep  8 17:03:07 2011 UTC.  The chair is bdmurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
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[17:03] <bdmurray> The agenda can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Meeting
[17:04] <bdmurray> #topic Updates of action items from previous meeting
[17:04] <bdmurray> There are a couple of things relating to test cases:
[17:04] <bdmurray> bdmurray tag bugs with 'TEST CASE' in description testcase
[17:05] <bdmurray> bdmurray recommend people modify description with 'TEST CASE' words if steps to reproduce exist in bug description or in comments
[17:05] <bdmurray> I've done neither of those but still can.  Do we think they are still a good idea?
[17:06] <micahg> yes
[17:06] <pedro_> i think so, yes
[17:06] <hggdh> +1
[17:06] <bdmurray> okay, lets carry those over then
[17:06] <bdmurray> and I'll do them asap ;-)
[17:07] <bdmurray> "
[17:07] <bdmurray> then we have "bdmurray to recommend that auto bug modifiers not incomplete bug reports that have been triaged as triaged is a state settable only by people who know what is what"
[17:07] <bdmurray> I've spoken with the people I know running bug bots so that is done
[17:07] <charlie-tca> +1 to TEST CASE
[17:08] <bdmurray> charlie-tca: I get it ;-)
[17:09] <bdmurray> and finally "hggdh to review all bug workflows that result with an "Invalid" status and see if using "Incomplete" makes more sense and email bugsquad regarding results"
[17:09] <hggdh> still do be finalised
[17:09] <bdmurray> do you need some help?
[17:10] <hggdh> not right now -- I just need to get on it 100%
[17:10] <bdmurray> hggdh: okay got it
[17:10] <hggdh> and thank you :-)
[17:11] <bdmurray> #topic Mentorship program discussion
[17:12] <bdmurray> I haven't been keeping a good eye on the mentorship program but it seems to have stagnated is that a fair statement?
[17:12] <pedro_> seems so, i haven't seen much emails on that
[17:12] <hggdh> yes. I have not seem much happening there; I am considering running a query on each one of the current mentees to see what they had done
[17:13] <hggdh> My feeling is most of them are lurking -- they want it, as long as it automatically lands on them, and do all
[17:14] <hggdh> from most of them I have not seen much...
[17:14] <hggdh> (except, as far as I can remember, trinikrono
[17:14] <hggdh> )
[17:14] <bdmurray> Personally, I still feel like we had good success looking at people who were active on bugs and recruiting them into bug control as opposed to just asking people to join an amorphous mentoring program.
[17:14] <hggdh> I agree
[17:15] <hggdh> itis time to consider closing the mentorship, I thnk
[17:16] <bdmurray> How do other people feel about this?
[17:16] <pedro_> perhaps a good discussion for UDS? :-)
[17:16] <hggdh> pedro_: yes, I agree
[17:16] <hggdh> bdmurray, charlie-tca, micahg ?
[17:16] <hggdh> (or anyone else?)
[17:17] <charlie-tca> I agree
[17:17] <bdmurray> I say +1 for discussing it at UDS but we should get some mentee input before that
[17:17] <charlie-tca> That would be good, too
[17:17] <bdmurray> somebody should email the mentorship group mailing list and see what's up
[17:17] <hggdh> I will do it now
[17:19] <micahg> +1 for closing the specific program, maybe a note about general mentoring that happens in #ubuntu-bugs
[17:19] <bdmurray> and when I say what's up I mean what are you looking for from the program and what kind of mentoring are you looking for
[17:19] <bdmurray> #action hggdh to email mentorship group alpha with questions regarding value of the program and what mentees are looking for
[17:19] <meetingology> ACTION: hggdh to email mentorship group alpha with questions regarding value of the program and what mentees are looking for
[17:20] <bdmurray> #action bdmurray to create spec for UDS P regarding mentorship program
[17:20] <meetingology> ACTION: bdmurray to create spec for UDS P regarding mentorship program
[17:21] <bdmurray> #topic Open Discussions
[17:22] <bdmurray> Is there anything anybody would like to discuss or announce?
[17:27]  * hggdh just notes an email has been sent to the mentorship ML requesting feedback
[17:27] <bdmurray> Okay then, thanks everyone
[17:27] <bdmurray> #endmeeting
[17:27] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Sep  8 17:27:28 2011 UTC.
[17:27] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-09-08-17.03.moin.txt
[17:27] <hggdh> thank you bdmurray
[17:27] <pedro_> thanks!
[17:27] <micahg> thanks bdmurray
[17:28] <charlie-tca> bdmurray: thank you for chairing
[18:00]  * pitti waves
[18:01] <mdz> hi pitti
[18:01] <cjwatson> I'm here, but this has turned out to overlap with dinner so I'm IRCing from my phone
[18:02] <czajkowski> cjwatson: someting up with your mail just got it 9 times..
[18:02] <cjwatson> has Mark said whether he's attending?
[18:02] <pitti> kees and Keybuk excused themselves
[18:02] <mdz> sabdfl is supposed to chair but hasn't shown yet
[18:02] <pitti> cjwatson: he ponged a few hours back, he didn't say anything that he wouldn't
[18:03] <cjwatson> czajkowski: I think you might find they were all slightly different
[18:03] <czajkowski> out of 11 9 were very similar....
[18:03] <cjwatson> the brainstorm mails?
[18:03] <czajkowski> yup
[18:03] <pitti> one still had "TOPIC", the others were different
[18:04] <cjwatson> look more closely - they were to different people
[18:04] <cjwatson> and slightly different subjects
[18:04] <cjwatson> pitti: yes, I followed up to correct that
[18:04] <czajkowski> shall go back to reading just the first paragraph of each looks similar , sorry.
[18:04] <pitti> otherwise, brainstorm review is going on well, no new community bugs, and I didn't spot anything new on the list
[18:05] <cjwatson> and nominations in progress
[18:05] <pitti> the TB reelection seems to be in progress, too
[18:05] <pitti> right
[18:06] <cjwatson> any current members not standing for reelection, out of interest'
[18:06] <cjwatson> ?
[18:06]  * pitti reapplied
[18:06] <cjwatson> as did I
[18:10] <cjwatson> so I guess we have no business to conduct?
[18:10] <pitti> seems so; Mark didn't mention anything to me either
[18:16] <pitti> so, I guess we can officially call this a day?
[18:17] <cjwatson> I guess so, quiet week :)
[18:17] <pitti> so, good night everyone!
[18:19] <cjwatson> have fun at Plumbers
[18:25] <broder> pitti, are you at plumbers?
[18:31] <sabdfl> hello all, sorry to be late
[18:32] <sabdfl> oh bollocks, mdz, just saw your ping