[12:07] <apachelogger> sas171: :(
[12:07] <apachelogger> I thought suse used it
[12:08] <gerardocb> does anybody has experience with raki & vdccm?
[12:13] <teclis> hi, I have a problem an annoying problem with kde and usb-sticks. If I plug the usb in, konqueror opens a windows with error message "media:/sda1 not found". The stick is mountet correctly under /media/usbstick. How can I fix this problem? Has anyone a link or a hint?
[12:17] <divansantana> teclis:What version of kde? Have you updated yet to latest fixes??
[12:18] <teclis> divansantana: version 3.4.3
[12:18] <teclis> divansantana: with latest fixes, you mean apt-get update? yes
[12:20] <divansantana> teclis: I think apt-get update with apt-get dist-upgrade should fix it, it did for me. But I am running kde3.5 with no probs in that area...
[12:20] <kkathman> kde 3.5 wont have any impact on that issue I dont believe :)
[12:20] <teclis> divansantana: thanks, I will try it.
[12:21] <kkathman> but teclis you should update and run your adept updater to get any updates outstanding if you havent
[12:23] <xwolf-> how do i change folder write permissions?
[12:24] <apachelogger> xwolf-: right click an -> tab permissions
[12:24] <apachelogger> *and
[12:24] <pablet> hello
[12:25] <pablet> i have a doubt
[12:25] <xwolf-> apachelogger, it says Owner: root and everything, but i can't edit anything on that tab
[12:26] <apachelogger> xwolf-: where's the folder?
[12:26] <pablet> When i plug my pendrive i can't see the free  disk space in "info meta" tab of properties dialog
[12:26] <pablet> but when I do this with others, i can see the free disk space in this tab
[12:26] <pablet> anyone can help me please?
[12:26] <xwolf-> apachelogger, /var/www
[12:27] <apachelogger> xwolf-: f4 -> konsole starts -> chown [username] :[username]  [foldername]
[12:27] <apachelogger> command of course without the []  of course
[12:27] <apachelogger> -of course ;-)
[12:29] <mcscruff> help meeeeeeeeeee
[12:29] <mcscruff> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/490998
[12:39] <nagyv> Hello! I have a problem with my pcmcia wireless card. It is recognized in the Network Settings, but I can not enable it. Before it was working properly, and I don't know about anything special, that could harm it. Could someone help me, how to find out the source of the problem?
[12:42] <stuart_> How do you block all incoming private messages in IRC?
[12:43] <bodisafa> anyone running bitchx?  I can't seem to get it to compile
[12:43] <Hobbsee> stuart_: tell the people not to send you private messages?
[12:43] <bodisafa> hehe
[12:43] <Hobbsee> bodisafa: what errors with the compiling?
[12:43] <musashiden> iam having a little problem with my i810 graphic drivers being recognised to the opengl
[12:44] <musashiden> my Xorg recognises the i810 graphics just fine, but opengl recognises it as a Mesa Driver
[12:45] <musashiden> anybody?
[12:45] <bodisafa> errors during make
[12:45] <bodisafa> sec I'll paste
[12:50] <jahshua--> bodisafa im using it
[12:50] <jahshua--> i didnt compile it from source though
[12:51] <bodisafa> hmm
[12:51] <bodisafa> i'd paste the error but its kinda big
[12:52] <jahshua--> use ubuntu pastebin
[12:52] <Hobbsee> !pastebin
[12:52] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:52] <bodisafa> nice
[12:52] <Hobbsee> very :)
[12:53] <jahshua--> hehe
[12:53] <jahshua--> bodisafa why not just get it from the repo
[12:55] <bodisafa> pasted
[12:56] <Hobbsee> bodisafa: link?
[12:57] <Hobbsee> bodisafa: do not run as root!  logout as root, and then try making again
[01:01] <bodisafa> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6617
[01:02] <bodisafa> i can't figure it out and I've googled all over
[01:02] <bodisafa> thats pretty much the extent of my skills, haha
[01:06] <derekS> hello. i am planning an install of kubuntu on a headless machine. what is the best remote desktop protocol/server?
[01:06] <Hobbsee> bodisafa: you should not make things as root
[01:06] <Hobbsee> derekS: you would be talking about something like ssh?
[01:06] <derekS> Hobbsee: i considered forwarding my xserver, but i want to save sessions
[01:07] <derekS> so it would be better to use something like vnc or rdp
[01:07] <Grackle> I followed the instructions here to install KDE/kubuntu packages on my Ubuntu breezy install. When I boot, KDM starts but I return to the console without seeing a login screen. What do I need to do?
[01:07] <Grackle> here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE *
[01:08] <Hobbsee> Grackle: try logging in via the terminal, then "startx" - otherwise, sudo etc/init.d/kdm restart
[01:08] <Hobbsee> and see if it starts that way
[01:08] <bimberi> derekS: I use vnc.  freenx is also very good
[01:08] <derekS> bimberi: will vnc save sessions?
[01:09] <Grackle> Hobbsee, X starts, but I'm still in Ubuntu.
[01:09] <Grackle> s/Ubuntu/Gnome
[01:09] <Hobbsee> try the second command to get kdm to start?
[01:09] <Grackle> kdm did start
[01:09] <Hobbsee> you need to be able to specify which display manager you want to run - not sure how you can do it via console
[01:09] <Grackle> It's the default display manager.
[01:10] <Hobbsee> yeah, but stay going?
[01:10] <Grackle> lemme check
[01:10] <bimberi> derekS: you can disconnect and reconnect and it the session will be as you left it
[01:10] <Hobbsee> :D
[01:11] <Hobbsee> kkathman: coke's better though - not a lover of coffee
[01:11] <bimberi> derekS: not sure about 'saving sessions' though
[01:11] <derekS> bimberi: awesome, which vnc server are you using?
[01:11] <kkathman> Hobbsee: actually, did you know that apples are better for waking yourself up than coffee or caffeine?
[01:11] <derekS> bimberi: disconnect is what i needed
[01:11] <Hobbsee> no, but i'll have to remember that!
[01:12] <kkathman> Hobbsee: if you are partial to apples, that is :)
[01:12] <Grackle> Yes Hobbsee, kdm is running. Maybe I should exec KDE in my .xinitrc
[01:12] <Hobbsee> yeah, that'd probably help, i'm guessing
[01:12] <bimberi> derekS: vncserver (i had font problems with vnc4server and tightvncserver)
[01:15] <derekS> bimberi: interesting
[01:15] <derekS> i will do that :)
[01:15] <Grackle> Oh, here, I found my error. "libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[01:15] <derekS> my main machine is regular ubuntu, but i figure it can't hurt to play :)
[01:16] <derekS> cuz the vid card doesn't work on this machine, and it is a mobo problem not vid card
[01:16] <Grackle> Oh, hurr, I'm guessing I need to set up some kubuntu repositories to get that stuff?
[01:16] <bimberi> derekS: absolutely :)
[01:18] <Grackle> Nope, there are no kubuntu specific repos it seems. Where do I get that library? I've install libstdc++6...
[01:18] <Hobbsee> Grackle: sudo apt-get install libstdc++6 fix that error?
[01:18] <Hobbsee> er, oops
[01:19] <Hobbsee> Grackle: or libc6?
[01:19] <Grackle> It's already installed.
[01:19] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[01:21] <Set> I am lost. I really don't know what's wrong
[01:21] <Set> I can ping default gateway, but not internet, using ip adresses or dns
[01:23] <Set> Is there someone here who might be willing to help me? I'm desperate
[01:27] <jahshua--> hey can someone please tell Bodisafa about enabling multiverse and universe repositories and setting up a new sources list please :)
[01:28] <Hobbsee> !tell Bodisafa about source
[01:28] <Hobbsee> !tell Bodisafa about sources
[01:28] <Set> !tell Set about network
[01:28] <Hobbsee> the second one
[01:28] <Bodisafa> thanks! :)
[01:29] <Set> can someone tell Set what he's doing wrong? maybe help him troubleshoot a bit
[01:30] <jahshua--> !tell jahshua-- about sources
[01:30] <Set> "Network is unreachable"
[01:30] <Grackle> Set, other computers on the network can connect to the internet, correct?
[01:30] <Set> yes
[01:30] <sas171> how to disable this one-click-behavior in Konqueror?
[01:30] <Grackle> And the ubuntu box can connect to boxen on the LAN?
[01:31] <jahshua--> hmm whats the command to bring up ones current sources list ?
[01:31] <Set> I can ping all other clients on the network
[01:31] <Grackle> Does your network have a proxy?
[01:31] <jahshua--> i forget cause im on ubuntu now, just trying to help out Bodisafa
[01:31] <Set> no, I have a router and a router that is configured as a switch
[01:31] <Set> the box I'm on now is connected to the router that is configured as a switch, and online
[01:31] <Set> I can ping default gateway from the kubuntu box
[01:32] <Grackle> jahshua--, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:32] <Set> but nothing outside my lan
[01:32] <Grackle> jahshua--, down at the bottom it tells how to set it up in KDE
[01:32] <Grackle> Oh, you only have one other box?
[01:32] <Set> Default gateway is set to the IP adress of my gateway... and dns is set to the IP adress of my gateway, as it does dns forwarding.
[01:32] <jahshua--> k
[01:32] <jahshua--> Grackle thanks
[01:32] <Grackle> yw
[01:33] <Set> Grackle, myself, I have one other box, but my friends have 4 other clients connected to the same router
[01:33] <Set> I *know* it's not the networking hardware that's faulty
[01:33] <Grackle> Oh, I see.
[01:33] <Grackle> I was wondering for a moment if your modem couldn't handle multiple DHCP clients, but I guess it can (mine can't).
[01:33] <jahshua--> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list  will that work also ?
[01:33] <Grackle> should
[01:34] <Grackle> Set, I dunno what to tell you. :|
[01:34] <Set> I use static IP adresses. and I don't have a modem... I have a D-Link DGL-4300 connected to a fiber connection :)
[01:34] <Grackle> Oh, badass. That is awesome/
[01:34] <Grackle> *.
[01:35] <Set> Grackle, I do support for networking devices for a living, so it's probably not something wrong with my networking hardware. I am unsure about the settings in kubuntu, though
[01:35] <jahshua--> kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.
[01:35] <jahshua--> what to do in this situation ?
[01:35] <Grackle> Haha, okay I see. I really don't know what could be wrong. :|
[01:35] <Hobbsee> jahshua--: use kdesu kwrite
[01:35] <Hobbsee> !tell jahshua-- about kdesu
[01:35] <apokryphos> jahshua--: are you doing sudo kate or something?
[01:35] <jahshua--> so
[01:35] <jahshua--> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list  will that work also ?
[01:35] <jahshua--> thats what i was doing
[01:36] <Set> in kcontrol, I have gone to network settings, set default gateway to <IP_ADDRESS> (the IP adress to the router), Domain name server to <IP_ADDRESS>, network interface eth0 to <IP_ADDRESS> (not in use by other clients), subnet mask to <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:36] <Set> and pressed apply
[01:36] <jahshua--> sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[01:36] <Grackle> kdesu, not sudo
[01:36] <apokryphos> jahshua--: you're reasonably lucky you got that; you can seriously muck up permissions, dcop sockets, and your general /tmp directory all together by doing that.
[01:36] <jahshua--> k
[01:36] <Set> I can ping default gateway and all clients on the network. But I can't ping anything beyond the router
[01:36] <Hobbsee> apokryphos: i think it should
[01:36] <jahshua--> kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[01:37] <apokryphos> jahshua--: kate/kwrite/kedit
[01:37] <Hobbsee> apokryphos: as well as a warning about running as root, which should violate all help received...
[01:37] <Hobbsee> jahshua--: yes
[01:38] <jahshua--> :(
[01:39] <Set> I guess I'm out of luck then :(
[01:40] <Grackle> :|
[01:40] <Set> I was thinking it could be a fucked up nic. but then I shouldn't be able to ping local hosts
[01:40] <Hobbsee> Set: language please
[01:40] <Set> sorry sorry
[01:41] <Set> I'll try a D-Link nic :)
[01:44] <leafw> is there any keyboard shortcut to hide a-la-mac all open windows of a given application?
[01:46] <pablet> problem: after mounting my pendrive, I can't see the free disk space in pendrive in "info meta" tag, but with other pendrives I can see the free disk space
[01:46] <pablet> why this difference between one and another pendrive?
[01:47] <ingrato> hi
[01:47] <pablet> (both are fat32 formatted)
[01:47] <pablet> anyone can help me please?
[01:47] <ingrato> i need to download dhcp-client for my laptop, but I can't cause the internet doesn't work since I don't have an IP, how can I download dhcp-client from my windows box?
[01:48] <pablet> don't you have dhclient in linux?
[01:48] <ingrato> dhclient, not sure, let me check
[01:49] <pablet> sudo dhclient <interface>
[01:49] <ingrato> i don't have a dhclient executable
[01:50] <pablet> then i think i can't help you (im not an ubuntu expert)
[01:50] <pablet> but I think dhclient is only a script
[01:50] <Set> this is very frustrating
[01:50] <Set> I tried another nic now... same problem
[01:50] <ingrato> hmm, i just wanna download the dhclient program put it on my usb drive, and xfer it to my kubuntu laptop
[01:50] <leafw> ingrato: download the package manually from windows and then put it into a pendrive or CD to install in your ubuntu box.
[01:51] <pablet> probably you can download it from internet and execute it directly from the path where you have downloaded it
[01:51] <ingrato> how
[01:51] <pablet> (im not sure, but i think so)
[01:51] <ingrato> website
[01:51] <pablet> one moment
[01:51] <Set> anyone fairly experienced with kubuntu networking willing to help me? it's definatly user error
[01:51] <leafw> ingrato: you should be able to point an ftp client to the URLs listed in the /etc/apt/source.list
[01:51] <ingrato> leafw, what website to get dhclient
[01:51] <leafw> ingrato: check the URLs at your sources.list
[01:52] <ingrato> ok, gotcha
[01:53] <ingrato> I went to http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ but then where do I go into? dists?
[01:54] <Set> what is the ifconfig command to add a gateway?
[01:54] <leafw> explore ingrato, explore.
[01:54] <ingrato> i went to binary-i386, but it only have a packages.gz
[01:55] <ingrato> where's the actual program files
[01:55] <leafw> ingrato: if worse comes to worst, download the live CD, run it in your kubuntu machine, and fetch the proper package with apt-get -d, then reboot and install.
[01:55] <pablet> dhpcd?
[01:55] <ingrato> dhcpcd or dhclient or anything to get an ip via dhcp
[01:55] <pablet> or pump, ingrato?
[01:56] <pablet> i am asking you to execute this commands
[01:56] <ingrato> which
[01:56] <leafw> ingrato: the actual files are listed in that packages.gz, but I don't know whether it is in binary or readable.
[01:56] <pablet> there should be one of these three
[01:56] <ingrato> pump not there
[01:56] <ingrato> dhcpcd not there, nor dhclient
[01:56] <pablet> in your computer, not in ftp
[01:57] <ipn1nj4> Set: ifconfig eth0 --gateway=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[01:57] <ingrato> that's what I'm saying, they're not there
[01:57] <pablet> ok ok
[01:57] <pablet> sorry
[01:57] <ingrato> i did locate, and that didn't yield any results
[01:57] <Set> I fixed it
[01:57] <Set> thanks a lot
[01:57] <Set> me happy
[01:57] <ipn1nj4> np
[01:57] <ipn1nj4> =]
[01:57] <Set> I just did "sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>"
[01:58] <ipn1nj4> Set: that'll work
[01:58] <Set> it did
[01:58] <Set> somehow kcontrol didn't save the default gateway for my interface
[01:58] <Set> any suggestions on a good ftp server for kubuntu that support sftp?
[01:58] <pablet> sorry ingrato, i have no more ideas now.....im not an expert.....but if something comes to my mind ill tell you
[01:58] <__Dwayne> hm...no traceroute in (k)ubuntu?
[01:59] <ipn1nj4> Set: i've always just used proftpd or vsftpd
[01:59] <angasule> __Dwayne: just get it from the repositories
[01:59] <pablet> but how have you installed ubuntu without installing a dhcp client??
[01:59] <ingrato> via cd?
[01:59] <ingrato> I dunno
[02:00] <__Dwayne> I meant, not installed by default..interesting..
[02:00] <ingrato> it gets an ip address when it's plugged into my network, but not via wireless card
[02:01] <pablet> well, connect to your network and apt-get install ........
[02:01] <pablet> (let me think the package where dhclient was)
[02:01] <ingrato> i can't
[02:01] <ingrato> cause i only have wireless at the moment
[02:02] <ingrato> ok, i did ifconfig eth1 up, and my nic stopped blinking, so it must've done something, but it doesn't have an ip address yet
[02:02] <pablet> do you have the live-cd or normal installation cd?
[02:03] <ingrato> no
[02:03] <pablet> bffff
[02:04] <pablet> one moment
[02:05] <ingrato> thanks...ill figure it out
[02:07] <pablet> ingrato, ix86?
[02:07] <pablet> im trying to find it in my system
[02:07] <pablet> the package name is dhcp3-client
[02:07] <dark_suic> pablet, Ingrato is gone...
[02:08] <pablet> ouch
[02:08] <xwolf-> i click on Administrator Mode, input the password, but nothing happens, why is that?
[02:08] <Hobbsee> pablet: is this in breezy or dapper?
[02:08] <pablet> now, can anyone help me please?
[02:08] <Hobbsee> xwolf-: use kdesu kcontrol instead - it's a known kde bug
[02:08] <pablet> what?
[02:08] <xwolf-> Hobbsee how do i do that?
[02:08] <pablet> i have breezy but i have not understood your question
[02:09] <Hobbsee> xwolf-: alt+f2, type "kdesu kcontrol" then hit enter
[02:09] <Hobbsee> pablet: what were you looking for?  to download that package?
[02:09] <dark_suic> pablet, what's your problem?
[02:09] <Hobbsee> pablet: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/net/dhcp3-client is the link to it, if you wanted to download it again
[02:10] <pablet> my problem is that when i plug my pendrive i can't see the free disk space in the "info meta" tab
[02:10] <pablet> but when i do with other pendrives, this info appears
[02:11] <pablet> and my question is, where has been made my pendrive? hehehe.....no, what's the difference with other pendrives?
[02:11] <pablet> is this a bug? a kernel bug??
[02:13] <dark_suic> don't think it is...
[02:13] <dark_suic> maybe your pendrive is strange :P
[02:13] <pablet> hehehee
[02:13] <pablet> fantastic, dark_suic
[02:13] <dark_suic> if it works with others, it would be strange that it's a kernel bug :P
[02:14] <dark_suic> i've seen with my own pendrive
[02:14] <dark_suic> that at university
[02:14] <dark_suic> i can't mount it but other friends can mount theirs
[02:14] <pablet> yes, its strange, because in older kernels, it told me that it was writing files, but everything was a joke
[02:14] <dark_suic> lol
[02:15] <dark_suic> well, maybe the dmesg / syslog output when u plug your pendrive can tell you something about it...
[02:15] <pablet> but now the behavior is correct, but i cant see the free disk in the "info meta" tag
[02:15] <pablet> very strange
[02:16] <pablet> and i opened kfreedisk and the free space that told me this program was not correct i think
[02:16] <_jeff> hey guys
[02:16] <dark_suic> u tried df?
[02:16] <pablet> df?
[02:16] <pablet> console?
[02:16] <dark_suic> yep
[02:16] <_jeff> does anyone know where to get konqueror plugins?
[02:16] <dark_suic> df command :P
[02:17] <pablet> let me see
[02:17] <_jeff> guys?
[02:17] <dark_suic> well, don't know _jeff maybe konqueror homepage?
[02:18] <dark_suic> google knows everything (almost)
[02:18] <_jeff> i tried there already
[02:18] <_jeff> lol i have checked google too
[02:18] <_jeff> im sure there are a couple out there
[02:18] <_jeff> how do you guys get new themes for your kubuntu?
[02:19] <dark_suic> mmm
[02:19] <dark_suic> don't use themes at all :P
[02:19] <pablet> the incorrect information about free disk space is something i have invented hehehe
[02:19] <Hobbsee> _jeff: kde-look.org
[02:19] <_jeff> i have tried kde-look, but all those themes require you to compile from source, which is hell
[02:19] <pablet> i have seen now free disk space and i have observed that its correct
[02:19] <dark_suic> loooool
[02:20] <Hobbsee> _jeff: not really - they shouldnt be that hard
[02:20] <_jeff> hobbsee: you dont have trouble compiling things from source?
[02:20] <pablet> well, i will have to open this program (df or kfreedisk) everytime i want to see free disk in pendrive
[02:20] <_jeff> hobbsee: how?
[02:20] <Hobbsee> not usually
[02:20] <dark_suic> well it's still strange you can't see them at  info meta tag, but at least df doesn't try to lie :P
[02:20] <Hobbsee> !compile
[02:20] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[02:20] <Hobbsee> !+checkinstall
[02:20] <ubotu> from memory, checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[02:21] <_jeff> hobbsee: ok ill check it out.
[02:21] <Hobbsee> packaging with dh_make and all that can be a pain though lol
[02:21] <derekS> i am trying to create a remote desktop using my username and password that i can disconnect/recconnect from a session, can i do that with vnc/
[02:21] <pablet> heheeh kfreedisk is correct too
[02:21] <pablet> i have opened it and it has reported me the correct free disk space
[02:21] <dark_suic> i suposed
[02:21] <dark_suic> i think kfreedisk is a gui for df :P
[02:21] <pablet> but the info meta tag is on travel
[02:21] <pablet> on holidays hehehe
[02:21] <dark_suic> :P
[02:22] <dark_suic> and u say that with other pendrives it works?
[02:22] <dark_suic> it should be your pens fault!
[02:22] <dark_suic> :P
[02:23] <pablet> i dont think so because its formatted in fat32 as the others i have plugged
[02:23] <Set> hmm
[02:23] <dark_suic> well, maybe it has something strange with its controller chips?
[02:23] <dark_suic> xD
[02:23] <Set> sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd start OK
[02:23] <pablet> but its true that this pendrive gave me problems with older kernels
[02:23] <dark_suic> it's quite weird, true
[02:23] <Set> sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd stop --- no usr/sbin/vsftpd found running; none killed
[02:24] <pablet> strange
[02:24] <pablet> the problems i had in the past where very strange too and they get solved when kernel became newer
[02:25] <Set> strangeness
[02:26] <pablet> so, i will wait for the things to become solved theirselves...its not an important failure
[02:26] <pablet> but it is a bad point for usability
[02:27] <dark_suic> yep :)
[02:27] <s17e1> test
[02:27] <pablet> its not very good having to open a program to see wether i have space enough to copy one file from disk to pendrive when i have the correct folders opened in konqueror
[02:27] <dark_suic> well, i was going to say that kernel 2.6.15 has arrived, but now i remember that kubuntu won't probably add it to the official repos
[02:27] <s17e1> exit
[02:28] <pablet> ctrl-c---ctrl-v becomes ctrl-c open kfreedisk close ctrl-v
[02:28] <pablet> not very good
[02:29] <dark_suic> :P
[02:29] <dark_suic> for copy paste and similar i try to use konsole as much as possible...
[02:29] <pablet> but well.....i think some people would be happy if his problem was only this one
[02:29] <dark_suic> inside it, df are just 3 keys :P (d+f+enter)
[02:30] <dark_suic> yap
[02:30] <pablet> but i have executed df and it shows you the percentage used
[02:30] <pablet> but not the amount of free space
[02:31] <pablet> im lying ok ok
[02:31] <dark_suic> well, in %, it's just the difference
[02:31] <dark_suic> and it says in 1k blocks how many u have free :P
[02:31] <bimberi> pablet: "df -h" gives a more readable output
[02:31] <pablet> with -h things get right
[02:32] <pablet> excuse my poor english.....
[02:32] <pablet> please
[02:32] <dark_suic> i'm not english too :P
[02:32] <dark_suic> well, df -h makes a good alias for df :P
[02:32] <pablet> where are you from?
[02:32] <dark_suic> (alias df='df -h')
[02:32] <dark_suic> spain
[02:33] <pablet> vale, de puta madre
[02:33] <dark_suic> in english here (#kubuntu-es for spahisn, plz ;))
[02:33] <pablet> hehehe ok
[02:33] <pablet> i was looking for channel kubuntu-es but i think there was only 7 people there
[02:33] <dark_suic> yep, more or less :P
[02:34] <pablet> sorry im not registered, i cant send private messages
[02:35] <dark_suic> np :)
[02:35] <dark_suic> u can enter #kubuntu-es, with just 7 people it's just like a private :P
[02:35] <pablet> well, i have to leave, in your country its time to go to bed hehehe
[02:35] <dark_suic> yep :)
[02:35] <dark_suic> i will go... in about 3 hours :)
[02:35] <johndew> Any way to find out which user was the last to modify a file?
[02:35] <pablet> than you ok??
[02:35] <dark_suic> a lot of work to do yet
[02:36] <pablet> bye to all!!! bye darc_suic!!! thanks again
[02:36] <dark_suic> bye
[02:37] <johndew> isn't it possible to find out which user was the last to modify (write to a) file?
[02:38] <dark_suic> well, it should be possible
[02:38] <dark_suic> but i don't think it's easy
[02:38] <dark_suic> probably with a long command...
[02:39] <johndew> hmm
[02:39] <Drakeson> Riddell: ping
[02:40] <dark_suic> don't ask me what command, i'm too new for that :(
[02:40] <mr-russ> johndew: usually the last user now owns the file.
[02:43] <Riddell> Drakeson: hi
[02:43] <johndew> mr-russ: a group is owning it
[02:44] <mr-russ> a user still owns it.
[02:44] <johndew> ok, what's the command to check owner?
[02:44] <johndew> ls -l shows group
[02:44] <Drakeson> Riddell: do we have kdesvn-build in the repos? (apt-cache search kdesvn-build gives nothing)
[02:45] <Drakeson> It may be a good idea to have a apt-get-able kde build environment
[02:45] <mr-russ> johndew: I've never seen ls -l only show group.
[02:46] <Riddell> Drakeson: probably kdesdk-scripts
[02:46] <jorik> does kubuntu come with a firewall ?
[02:47] <johndew> mr-russ: -rw-rw-r--  1 www   www 900 Jan 4 19:00 fileName.php               www is a group
[02:48] <mr-russ> www is the user.
[02:48] <Set> I want a simple, normal ftp server that lets anonymous users upload to a directory called upload and gives the local users complete rights to all files in /home/ftp/ . is that too much to ask?
[02:48] <johndew> mr-russ: I just wrote to the file, and that's not my username ..
[02:49] <johndew> mr-russ: I guess it's set up that way though.. so it's written through this www user account
[02:50] <mr-russ> must have the user sticky bit set on the directory
[02:50] <mr-russ> no writing it through samba or anything fancy?
[02:51] <johndew> not sure .. I haven't set this thing up and I'm not very experienced either
[02:56] <stevenj> Got a question-I just installed kubuntu 5.10 (clean) updated then upgraded. reboot.  I just added "official" KDE 3.5 dep and updated.  Now Do I upgrade, dist-upgrade, or dist-upgrade -f???
[02:57] <derekS> exit
[02:57] <stevenj> packages are held back/removed/upgraded in all 3 cases; however kmail and some others are always held back.  what should I do? is this normal
[02:58] <dereks_> hey, i have breezy and tried to install avahi, but apt-get errors saying "/var/lib/dpkg/info/avahi-daemon.postinst: line 29: dbus-send: command not found"
[02:58] <dereks_> i am using breezy
[02:59] <dereks_> also, how stable are the kde3.5 packages on kubuntu.org
[02:59] <dereks_> is it worth upgrading?
[02:59] <Hobbsee> dereks_: they're fairly stable, yes
[02:59] <dereks_> Hobbsee: fairly?
[03:00] <Hobbsee> dereks_: well, some people have had a couple of problems, as happens with the "stable" 3.4.3 that's on your system now
[03:00] <Hobbsee> stevenj: dist-upgrade
[03:00] <dereks_> Hobbsee: woudl you reccomend upgrading?
[03:00] <Hobbsee> yeah
[03:00] <dereks_> Hobbsee: done then :)
[03:01] <stevenj> Hobbsee, thanks! I suppose some packages are held back for good reason, I just dont enough to know what is normal. ;)
[03:01] <Hobbsee> no problems
[03:01] <stevenj> need to rb thanks
[03:02] <dereks_> Hobbsee: you know how to fix my avahi problem?
[03:03] <Hobbsee> dereks_: try sudo apt-get install dbus-1-utils
[03:03] <dereks_> Hobbsee: ok
[03:03] <vytautas> i can't install mozilla from a repository is this normal?
[03:04] <dark_suic> not at all...
[03:04] <dark_suic> errors?
[03:05] <vytautas>  mozilla: Depends: mozilla-browser (= 2:1.7.12-0ubuntu2) but 2:1.7.12-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[03:05] <vytautas> and two more such
[03:06] <vytautas> i changed repository to one that is 10+ times faster, and maybe they just haven't synced yet?
[03:06] <dereks_> Hobbsee: that worked
[03:06] <vytautas> may this be a reason?
[03:06] <Hobbsee> dereks_: :D yay!
[03:06] <dereks_> thanks :)
[03:06] <Hobbsee> no problems
[03:07] <Hobbsee> dereks_: found by apt-cache search dbus-send
[03:07] <Hobbsee> vytautas: what were the other dependancies?
[03:08] <vytautas> mozilla-mailnews and mozilla-psm
[03:09] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[03:09] <Set> okay. I got vnc up and running
[03:09] <Set> this ist gout
[03:10] <vytautas> i just installed 5.10 and upgraded, should i restart?
[03:11] <Hobbsee> vytautas: just run a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade then try again
[03:11] <dereks_> is there a problem with zeroconf/avahi and kde3.5?
[03:12] <dereks_> because i get an error saying kpf can't use zeroconf
[03:14] <moshe> hello
[03:14] <Hobbsee> hi
[03:14] <vytautas> no, that doesn't work
[03:14] <moshe> does anyone know how to get mkisofs to create a dvd video image?  -dvd-video returns an error.
[03:14] <Hobbsee> !info mkisofs
[03:15] <dark_suic> anyone knows a program to copy copy-protected cds??? (i have an original about to break)
[03:15] <moshe> mkisofs says it's unable to create a dvd video image.
[03:16] <Set> now I'm testing if the box will boot without a keyboard and monitor connected
[03:17] <vytautas> ok, nevermind, i'll play abit
[03:19] <gate> I am looking for repositories with sun java and one for  gizmo
[03:19] <Set> how can I enable remote desktop at login prompt kdm?
[03:21] <bimberi> !javadebs
[03:21] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[03:21] <gate> Thank you for the java links
[03:22] <bimberi> gate: np :)
[03:22] <bimberi> !listvals gizmo
[03:22] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'gizmo' by value returned no results.
[03:22] <bimberi> :(
[03:22] <Set> !remote login
[03:22] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Set
[03:23] <Set> !remote desktop
[03:23] <ubotu> Set: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:23] <Liz> ok..i just installed kubuntu ...and it hasnt booted properly..how do i find out whats installed and whats not?..if i try to run X it says i dont have the authority to startx
[03:24] <gate> www.gizmoproject.com  1 cent/min sipp phone
[03:26] <rance> I have a problem with the xorg.conf file generated by the kubuntu install set
[03:26] <Hobbsee> !xfcg
[03:26] <ubotu> Hobbsee: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:26] <Hobbsee> !xcfg
[03:26] <ubotu> rumour has it, xcfg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:28] <Hobbsee> rance: that help?
[03:29] <Set> anyone know how I can connect to my box when no-one is logged in... I want to connect to kdm and login from there
[03:29] <rance> well see, im waiting for it to ask me about my monitor resolution so I can hand enter the correct values, its almost never autodetected correctly
[03:29] <Liz> im stuck at a command line
[03:29] <bimberi> gate: you could try the debian installers at http://www.gizmoproject.com/download-linux.html
[03:30] <rance> has anyone used asterix pbx with a ubuntu core?
[03:32] <dark_suic> Liz, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[03:32] <gate>  (rance) Using a higher than probed color depth fixes my xorg.conf ie change 16 to 24
[03:34] <Set> !kdm
[03:34] <ubotu> Set: I give up, what is it?
[03:34] <Set> !vnc
[03:34] <ubotu> hmm... vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html
[03:35] <Liz> dark_suic: didnt work...says command not found
[03:35] <dark_suic> O__o
[03:35] <dark_suic> what command not found? sudo? kdm?
[03:35] <Liz> no...sudo : etc/init.d/kdm : command not found
[03:36] <dark_suic> ok
[03:36] <Hobbsee> Liz: add a "restart" on the end
[03:36] <dark_suic> etc/init.d/kdm?
[03:36] <Hobbsee> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[03:36] <bimberi> missing "/" before etc?
[03:36] <Liz> Hobbsee: nope..same error
[03:37] <dark_suic> yep
[03:37] <dark_suic> Liz,  what bimberi said
[03:37] <Liz> yes../ before etc
[03:37] <dark_suic> ok
[03:37] <dark_suic> then
[03:37] <bimberi> k
[03:37] <dark_suic> sudo apt-get install kdm
[03:37] <Liz> tried that..said it couldnt find it
[03:37] <dark_suic> O_o
[03:37] <Liz> tried sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop..so many depends that it wouldnt install either
[03:38] <Liz> i downloaded the iso yesterday..burned it this morning following instructions on the wiki
[03:39] <xwolf-> i opened 'kdesu kcontrol' and it said KDE Version 3.4.something
[03:39] <xwolf-> how come?
[03:39] <Liz> i normally run ubuntu on it..but for some reason the discs i have arent working ..keep coming up with integrity errors..hence why i downloaded kubuntu to give it a go
[03:39] <dark_suic> what are your repositories?
[03:39] <] BreliC[> silly question... it's been so long since I"ve used KDE, I forget how to make Konqueror look like the split-pane Nautilus (or Windows Explorer) for File Management.  Anyone with a quick fix?
[03:39] <sas171> hi, how to install new windows decorations and control elements under kde? ... it was so easy under gnome.
[03:40] <Hobbsee> ] BreliC[: view, view mode
[03:40] <] BreliC[> Hobbsee, yeah, but that doesn't add the pane on the left (the file tree)
[03:40] <Hobbsee> oh...that...
[03:40] <Hobbsee> um
[03:40] <Hobbsee> hit f9
[03:41] <Liz> dark_suic: not sure..let me check ..i just assumed it would use the cdrom repositories
[03:41] <Hobbsee> ] BreliC[: hit f9, and enjoy :)
[03:41] <] BreliC[> Hobbsee, haha, sweet!  thanks.  I had a whole thing going on that wasn't working (like split left/right, link them, lock one of them, etc)
[03:41] <Hobbsee> hehe
[03:41] <dark_suic> Liz, it should, but...
[03:41] <dark_suic> strange things happen
[03:43] <Liz> what would happen if i just did a complete install again?
[03:43] <Liz> think it would add the files thats missing?
[03:43] <dark_suic> maybe...
[03:43] <dark_suic> but if first didnt work...
[03:43] <dark_suic> it may not work now too...
[03:43] <dark_suic> and it would be a BIG waste of time :)
[03:43] <xwolf-> Liz check the md5sum before
[03:44] <xwolf-> i learnt that the hard way
[03:44] <Liz> check the md5sum how what and what am im looking for in the md5sum?
[03:45] <xwolf-> well, the install cd integrity
[03:45] <xwolf-> actually, the install cd image integrity
[03:45] <xwolf-> got it?
[03:46] <Liz> xwolf-: i got 6 discs when they sent out free discs..i installed my system with it..dunno why 4 of them are not working now .
[03:46] <dark_suic> O___O
[03:46] <Liz> i tried to install the one before breezy...nothing
[03:47] <Liz> just kept coming up with integrity errors
[03:47] <Liz> so i tried slackware..and that works
[03:47] <Liz> but i dont want slackware on that system
[03:47] <xwolf-> Liz you downloaded kubuntu.iso, right?
[03:47] <xwolf-> (dont remember the full name)
[03:47] <Liz> yep..
[03:48] <xwolf-> so, did you check this kubuntu.iso integrity?
[03:48] <xwolf-> if you said errors happened...
[03:49] <Liz> there were no problems with this one...
[03:49] <Liz> it stopped half way through saying something about tools failing to install..but it continued on anyway
[03:49] <xwolf-> then ignore me... xP
[03:50] <Liz> and infinished the install so that i got to a command line..but im not good with command lines..unless i can find out what ive got to install to get it to work
[03:50] <Liz> properly
[03:50] <xwolf-> try installing it again :>
[03:50] <Liz> okie..ill get back to you when its done :)
[03:50] <xwolf-> if the same thing happens, the iso file is pro'ly corrupted
[03:50] <vytautas> just run kdm
[03:50] <xwolf-> dont get back to me, i'm a complete newbie :>
[03:51] <dark_suic> xwolf-, as most of us :)
[03:51] <dark_suic> but between we all we can do something :)
[03:51] <xwolf-> dark_suic no, i really am, at least at linux
[03:52] <dark_suic> me too, but we all have suffered with it
[03:52] <xwolf-> but i'm pretty acknowledged to disk images :P
[03:52] <xwolf-> yeah, i did suffer too
[03:52] <Liz> theres probably something you did xwolf- that could help.even if you are a newbie
[03:53] <Liz> and we all learn from sharing what we did to get it to work and what we didnt
[03:53] <xwolf-> like checking the md5sum before burning an image
[03:53] <xwolf-> that i learnt the hard way (read losing TONS OF DISKS)
[03:53] <vytautas> and maybe a disk is bad and than even if the image is good...
[03:53] <TJ_> Hello everyone, I'm having a slight problem with video in firefox/konqueror in Breezy. I really have no issue with using either browser... I used the mplayer plug-in in Hoary for Firefox and it worked like a charm...But there seems to be nothing like it for Breezy (and no Kubuntu Breezy guide). Can anyone help?
[03:54] <Hobbsee> TJ_: apt-cache search mplayer
[03:57] <TJ_> Thanks :)
[03:57] <Hobbsee> no problems
[03:58] <Liz> ok first error
[03:59] <Liz> "the debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1) check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for details"
[04:00] <Liz> its now installing the rest to an 'unclean' or previous setup that failed
[04:00] <dark_suic> Liz, that it's installing again?
[04:01] <Liz> it continued installing..yes
[04:02] <dark_suic> when i got an error installing debootstrap it locked completely
[04:02] <Liz> now its asking to install the kernel..i said linux-386 last install..and it still installed 2.6.12-9-386
[04:02] <Liz> any suggestions anyone?
[04:03] <xwolf-> when it asked me to install the kernel, that meant future problems (i had to reinstall)
[04:03] <Liz> whats the difference between 'linux-386' and 'linux-image-386'?
[04:03] <xwolf-> it should not ask you that Liz
[04:04] <Liz> true..ive never had the option before
[04:07] <bimberi> linux-386 depends on linux-image-386 which depends on linux-image-2.6.12-9-386
[04:11] <Liz> so i was right in just installing linux-image-2-6-..etc
[04:18] <dereks_> anyone here using samba with kubuntu?
[04:18] <bimberi> Liz: that should be OK, i don't think you'll get the restricted modules installed though - you can always install linux-386 later
[04:22] <Liz> i can dealw ith the restricted stuff later..its just getting a base install done..with at least a gui
[04:29] <dark_suic> dereks_, myself
[04:29] <Danl_nix> im having a gtk / synaptic problem
[04:29] <Danl_nix> when i run synaptic i get this problem:
[04:30] <Danl_nix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6633
[04:30] <dereks_> dark_suic: can you help me? it isn't working right!
[04:30] <dark_suic> maybe
[04:30] <dark_suic> what's the matter?
[04:30] <dereks_> i installed samba and sambfs
[04:30] <dark_suic> yep
[04:31] <dereks_> i have system settings -> sharing -> file sharing set to simple sharing
[04:31] <dereks_> and i am ignoring the shared folders on the bottom
[04:31] <dereks_> right?
[04:31] <dereks_> i just wanna share my home directory
[04:31] <dark_suic> yep
[04:31] <dark_suic> (well, i suppose)
[04:31] <dereks_> ok, in allowed users i have all
[04:32] <dereks_> now i go to my gnome desktop across the room, and I try to browse to it
[04:32] <dark_suic> but with simple sharing u only allow each user to get his own directory... i think
[04:32] <dereks_> dark_suic: thats fine
[04:32] <dark_suic> u should login as the same user
[04:32] <dereks_> dark_suic: i am
[04:32] <dereks_> so far that sounds setup right
[04:32] <dereks_> right/
[04:34] <dark_suic> i think
[04:34] <dereks_> dark_suic: when i try to browse in nome, i enter just the ip, then it asks for authentication
[04:34] <dereks_> i put my username, domain i change to mshome, and my password
[04:34] <dereks_> and it fails
[04:34] <dark_suic> what error gives? (if any)
[04:35] <dandielionous> hello
[04:35] <dandielionous> I am trying to install kmymoney on kubuntu.
[04:36] <dandielionous> Everything that I look at in the installation instructions and instructions on the net doesn't work when I try to type it into a terminal window.
[04:36] <dereks_> dark_suic: just keeps showing me the login screen
[04:36] <dandielionous> I installed all the cvs stuff I could find.
[04:36] <dereks_> which makes me assume i am not authenticating correctly
[04:36] <dandielionous> Sorry I'm very new and confused.  I would appreciate a little help. :)
[04:37] <dereks_> dandielionous: apt-get install kmymoney2
[04:37] <dereks_> dandielionous: add a sudo in front of that
[04:37] <dandielionous> Do I have to be in the directory where kmymoney2 is installed?
[04:37] <dandielionous> not installed.
[04:37] <dandielionous> Sitting lol
[04:37] <dereks_> no
[04:38] <dereks_> i just told you how
[04:38] <dandielionous> okay.
[04:38] <dandielionous> sudo doesn't work.
[04:38] <dark_suic> dandielionous, just put sudo apt-get install kmymoney2
[04:38] <dandielionous> I had to add a password and I can get su to work.
[04:38] <dark_suic> dereks_, u tried a packet sniffer?
[04:38] <dark_suic> package sniffer?
[04:38] <dark_suic> ethereal for example
[04:38] <dandielionous> Okay ty I'm going to type that right now.
[04:38] <dandielionous> ty so much.
[04:39] <Hobbsee> ooh, kmymoney2, that sounds familiar...
[04:39] <dereks_> dark_suic: hmm, nope
[04:39] <dereks_> that the only way?
[04:40] <dark_suic> don't think so
[04:40] <dark_suic> but could be a way...
[04:40] <dereks_> heh
[04:40] <dark_suic> don't know really mucho about this
[04:40] <dark_suic> but....
[04:40] <dark_suic> u tried nfs for gnome?
[04:40] <leftist> morning what can i do to install w32codecs
[04:40] <dark_suic> could be quite better ...
[04:40] <dark_suic> leftist, sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[04:40] <dereks_> dark_suic: i don't know how to set nfs up
[04:40] <dark_suic> they should be at universe/multiverse
[04:41] <dark_suic> dereks_, don't have a big idea... www.tldp.org could help A LOT
[04:41] <leftist> wow thank you dark_suic
[04:41] <dandielionous> Okay it says it can't find kmymoney2.
[04:41] <Danl_nix> neone?
[04:42] <stevenj> now I have to reinstall kubuntu a 3rd time.  Everytime I dist-upgrade KDE 3.5 it holds back kmail and others...then I do dist-upgrade again and it installs held back packages...then missing dependcies the dist-upgrade -f then klibmail crash with kmail..WHAT in the hell? how do I install Kubuntu with KDE 3.5 succesfully?
[04:42] <dereks_> dark_suic: why would that be better than samba anyways?
[04:42] <dereks_> dark_suic: i chose samba so i could view the files on my windows laptop also
[04:42] <Danl_nix> eh
[04:42] <Liz> ok that screwed up too..i have a feeling this hdd is dying on me
[04:42] <stevenj> I followed the instructions on the Kubuntu site
[04:42] <dark_suic> dereks_, samba is for sharing with windows, nfs with other unixs
[04:42] <dereks_> dark_suic: right
[04:43] <dereks_> i figured i should go for the more general solution
[04:43] <dark_suic> dereks_, a friend of mine told me that samba doesn't like his computer but nfs worked ok
[04:43] <ArthurB> Hi, I am having problems with the audicd kio plugin
[04:43] <dereks_> dark_suic: hmmm
[04:43] <stevenj> And another thing..backports amarok 2.3.7 and Kubuntu 2.3.7 should have the same damn name otherwise it reinstalls.
[04:43] <dereks_> dark_suic: session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[04:43] <ArthurB> it doesn't display every track and gives bogus track numbers 1,2,3,5...31
[04:43] <dereks_> how is that error
[04:44] <dark_suic> dereks_, what gives that error?
[04:44] <dereks_> smbclient -L hostname
[04:44] <dereks_> then i put my pass
[04:44] <dark_suic> ArthurB, it doesn't depend on the kio plugin, it's probably error from the cddb
[04:45] <leftist> Says it cannot find w32codecs
[04:45] <stevenj> has anyone installed KDE 3.5 with success...just dist-upgrade and everything installs perfectly?
[04:45] <dark_suic> dereks_, i was gonna tell you to write in konqueror smb:/, but if the other desktop is gnome nothing to do about it :(
[04:45] <dark_suic> leftist, u will probably have to add universe or/and multiverse repositories
[04:46] <dark_suic> stevenj, i'm using kde3.5 with no issues
[04:46] <dark_suic> just apt-get dist-upgrade and everything ok
[04:46] <dandielionous> Okay I went to the directory where I have
[04:46] <dandielionous> oops
[04:46] <leftist> a[t=get dist-upgrade
[04:46] <leftist> lol
[04:46] <leftist> opps
[04:47] <dandielionous> Okay I went to the directory where I have kmymoney2_0.8.1.orig.tar.gz and to the directory where I unzipped it.
[04:47] <dark_suic> leftist, that was for stevenj
[04:47] <dark_suic> :P
[04:47] <dandielionous> I typed in sudo alt-get install kmymoney2
[04:47] <leftist> well i need to probably anyway ;)
[04:47] <Liz> sigh..ok ive given up ..i think that hdd is screwed...so im gonna give it another go after i get another hdd
[04:47] <ArthurB> dark_suic: as a matter of fact the Information directory contains an error
[04:47] <Liz> thanks all for you help
[04:47] <dandielionous> It starts to do then it says it can't find the file?
[04:47] <ArthurB> yet CDDB works perfectly for kaudiocreator
[04:48] <ArthurB> or for kscd
[04:48] <dark_suic> O__o
[04:48] <dark_suic> let me see for a sec
[04:48] <dandielionous> Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[04:48] <dereks_> dark_suic: smb:/ on the kde machine works!
[04:48] <dereks_> too bad the server is ALSO on that machine
[04:48] <dark_suic> dereks_, i know, it HAS to work :P
[04:48] <dereks_> dark_suic: why?
[04:49] <dark_suic> dandielionous, for sudo apt-get u don't need to download anything
[04:49] <dark_suic> but if you have downloaded it
[04:49] <dark_suic> once u unzipped it
[04:49] <dark_suic> ./configure ; make ; make install
[04:49] <dandielionous> okay
[04:50] <dark_suic> ArthurB, testing it with a cd of my own :P
[04:50] <dandielionous> ty dark_suic
[04:50] <dandielionous> Do I do that in the directory where it is at?
[04:50] <dark_suic> dereks_, kioslaves as smb:/, media:/ or audiocd:/ are for the moment in kde
[04:50] <dark_suic> yep
[04:50] <dark_suic> the directory where u unzipped it
[04:50] <dandielionous> apt- get must = application get mmmmm
[04:51] <dandielionous> Okay ty dark_suic
[04:51] <dark_suic> dandielionous, u should try to add repositories (universe and multiverse) to your sources.list
[04:51] <dark_suic> kmymoney is there almost for sure
[04:51] <dandielionous> Okay.
[04:52] <dandielionous> Is that something I can can from adept?
[04:52] <dereks_> dark_suic: could it be because from my other machine i can only ping by ip?
[04:52] <stevenj> dark_suic well did it hold back kmail becuase everytime I have installed kubuntu+KDE 3.5 it holds back kmail and its broken
[04:52] <dandielionous> I'm just trying to get past installing one simple little program so I understand what it takes to install applications.
[04:53] <dereks_> i tried pinging by hostname and hostname.domainname and it didn't work
[04:53] <dandielionous> I can't click on the .exe file now that I'm in linux and I have to learn how to do this.
[04:53] <dark_suic> dereks_, maybe, that means that dns won't work properly
[04:53] <dark_suic> or that you have to edit /etc/hosts
[04:53] <stevenj> dark_suic do you use backports?
[04:53] <dark_suic> stevenj, what repositorie u have for kde3.5?
[04:53] <dark_suic> official at kubuntu homepage?
[04:54] <stevenj> dark_suic yes
[04:54] <dark_suic> (kubuntu.org/package/kde3.5?
[04:54] <dark_suic> well, it hasn't given me any problems in about... 5 installs?
[04:54] <stevenj> dark_suic yes, with key installed
[04:54] <dandielionous> I take it repositories are files.
[04:54] <dark_suic> dandielionous,
[04:54] <dandielionous> Or are they directories.
[04:54] <dark_suic> no, they aren't
[04:54] <dandielionous> ty dark_suic
[04:54] <dark_suic> repositories are webpages where you download  software
[04:54] <dark_suic> they're listed on /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:54] <dark_suic> in format
[04:54] <dandielionous> Okay.
[04:55] <dark_suic> deb address distro sections
[04:55] <stevenj> dark_suic can you tell me the exact steps you take when upgrading..I followed every instruction I have googled
[04:55] <dereks_> dark_suic: i just did that
[04:55] <dereks_> didn't help :(
[04:55] <dandielionous> <<<<furiously making notes.
[04:55] <dark_suic> then, u tell apt-get to install a program (sudo apt-get install program) and apt-get looks at addresses for it :)
[04:55] <dark_suic> stevenj,
[04:55] <dark_suic> clean kubuntu install
[04:55] <dark_suic> sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list (add kde3.5 and amarok1.3.7 repos)
[04:55] <yonkeltron> i can't seem to get the laptop battery monitor to show up in the system tray. i tried going to the laptop battery control in settings:/PowerControl and hitting the button but it doesn't seem to want to start
[04:56] <dark_suic> sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:56] <dandielionous> ty so much
[04:56] <dandielionous> I tried this:   cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/kmymoney2 login
[04:56] <dandielionous> and it didn't work
[04:56] <stevenj> dark_suic when you look at apt-get upgrade are you positive there are no packages held back?
[04:57] <dandielionous> I got it from here:  http://kmymoney2.sourceforge.net/index-install.html
[04:57] <dandielionous> All the instructions they tell me there doesn't work.
[04:57] <dark_suic> it doesn't held back any package for me... although i don't use kmail for example...
[04:57] <Hobbsee> there's an 0.8.2 of kmymoney?
[04:58] <stevenj> dark_suic that might be it...I bet it does'nt work
[04:59] <dark_suic> ouch
[04:59] <dark_suic> when i was going to tell arthur that audiocd worked for me he goes!
[04:59] <dark_suic> xD
[04:59] <leftist> those codecs are not in the respository
[05:00] <leftist> i did a serach for them and nothing. grr
[05:00] <dark_suic> leftist, they're probably on universe/multiverse (i have them installed)
[05:00] <dark_suic> u added them to your sources.list?
[05:01] <leftist> no i am new with ubuntu this is way diffferent from the versions of linux i used in the past other unix version from long ago. xenix an stuff.
[05:01] <leftist> to be honest i am lost
[05:01] <leftist> i knew SCO and stuff like that
[05:02] <leftist> it's so user friendly (lol) today
[05:02] <leftist> compared to the old ways anyway
[05:02] <dandielionous> bash make not found.
[05:02] <dandielionous> bash command make not found
[05:02] <dandielionous> Now what?
[05:02] <leftist> i'll just delete the wma file
[05:02] <leftist> later
[05:03] <Hobbsee> dandielionous: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:03] <dark_suic> dandielionous, sudo apt-get install make
[05:03] <xwolf-> sudo -wtf apt-get idunnoshitboutthis
[05:03] <dark_suic> and from now on, be prepared for the trouble, as u will have to google for almost every error the program gives :P
[05:03] <dandielionous> ty Hobbsee , dark_suic
[05:03] <dark_suic> xwolf-, loooool
[05:04] <dark_suic> that :P
[05:04] <xwolf-> :>
[05:04] <Hobbsee> dark_suic: you definetly want build-essential there - its' a metapackage for a lot of that stuff
[05:04] <dark_suic> yep
[05:04] <dark_suic> i didn't remember it
[05:04] <dark_suic> in fact
[05:04] <dark_suic> installed kubuntu yesterday since a lot of time using debian and i didn't remember it :P
[05:04] <dark_suic> i didn't have it installed
[05:05] <dandielionous> It's doing it! It's doing it! Something actually worked. lol :)
[05:06] <dandielionous> I'm doing build essential.
[05:07] <dandielionous> dandielionous@dandielionous:~/Programs/kmymoney$ ./configure; make; make install
[05:07] <dandielionous> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[05:07] <dandielionous> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[05:07] <dandielionous> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[05:08] <dandielionous> I hope that wasn't too bigger paste.
[05:08] <Hobbsee> dandielionous: did you get build-essential?
[05:08] <Hobbsee> it was, but ok
[05:08] <dandielionous> Yes I just did build essential.
[05:08] <Hobbsee> oh, you need ./configure
[05:08] <Hobbsee> then after that finishes, then do make
[05:09] <dandielionous> Okay ty Hobbsee.
[05:09] <Hobbsee> if you want to do them all in one hit, use ./configure && make && sudo make install
[05:09] <dandielionous> It says it can't find the package.
[05:09] <dandielionous> I tried sudo apt.get ./configure
[05:11] <dandielionous> Maybe I have to be root.
[05:13] <Hobbsee> you dont have to be root
[05:13] <dark_suic> :P
[05:13] <dandielionous> Okay I came out of being root.
[05:13] <dandielionous> :)
[05:13] <xwolf-> you are now the stem
[05:14] <xwolf-> ok, sorry, i just couldnt miss that one :P
[05:14] <dandielionous> root@dandielionous:/home/dandielionous/Programs/kmymoney# sudo apt-get ./configure
[05:14] <dandielionous> E: Invalid operation ./configure
[05:14] <dandielionous> root@dandielionous:/home/dandielionous/Programs/kmymoney# exit
[05:14] <dandielionous> exit
[05:14] <jahshua> hey how can i find out what location a program i need to use is in ??
[05:14] <dandielionous> I am a leaf.
[05:14] <dandielionous> Not even a stem. :)
[05:15] <Hobbsee> dandielionous: no...just run ./configure
[05:15] <Hobbsee> no sudo apt-get in front of it
[05:15] <dandielionous> okay.
[05:16] <Hobbsee> log out of root first...
[05:16] <dandielionous> ty Hobbsee .
[05:16] <Hobbsee> jahshua: locate blah
[05:17] <dandielionous> dandielionous@dandielionous:~/Programs/kmymoney$ ./configure; make; make install
[05:17] <dandielionous> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[05:17] <dandielionous> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[05:17] <dandielionous> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[05:17] <Hobbsee> dandielionous: why are you compiling kmymoney?
[05:17] <dandielionous> ty Hobbsee I locked out of root.
[05:17] <Hobbsee> i see that - much better!
[05:17] <dandielionous> I don't know what I'm doing.
[05:17] <Hobbsee> !info kymymoney
[05:18] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[05:18] <dandielionous> I downloaded the file.
[05:18] <dandielionous> Then unzipped the file.
[05:18] <dandielionous> I see all these icons and can't use the program.
[05:18] <dandielionous> It hasn't installed.
[05:18] <dandielionous> Just unzipped.
[05:18] <seth_k|lappy> it is
[05:18] <seth_k|lappy> it's called 'kmymoney2'
[05:18] <dark_suic> it is in repos, but in universe multiverse
[05:18] <xtacocorex> i thought i remember seeing it there
[05:19] <dark_suic> where was the guide to add them to the repos?
[05:19] <Hobbsee> !+repos
[05:19] <dandielionous> Okay so it's in repos.
[05:19] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) see also !easysource
[05:19] <xtacocorex> they should be in the sources.list, just uncomment them
[05:19] <Hobbsee> which version is in the repos?
[05:19] <xtacocorex> don't know
[05:19] <dark_suic> kmymoney2
[05:19] <dark_suic> 1 seg
[05:19] <Hobbsee> dark_suic: apt-cache show kmymoney2
[05:20] <dark_suic> i know :P
[05:20] <Hobbsee> :P cool
[05:20] <dark_suic> 0.8.6
[05:20] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[05:20] <dark_suic> xD
[05:20] <xtacocorex> that's a knifty command Hobbsee
[05:20] <Hobbsee> it's very useful!
[05:20] <dark_suic> yeah!
[05:20] <dandielionous> Okay I clicked on both those url.
[05:20] <dark_suic> apt-cache search and show (don't know more about apt-cache, but think they're ... wow :P)
[05:21] <Hobbsee> definetly!
[05:21] <dark_suic> !easysource
[05:21] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:21] <Hobbsee> dandielionous: you want the last url there
[05:21] <dandielionous> ty Hobbsee
[05:21] <dark_suic> yeah!
[05:21] <dandielionous> ty ubotu
[05:21] <dark_suic> i didn't know it, it's really great!
[05:22] <dandielionous> So all the work that I did finding the right file to download and learning to unzip it was for nothing?
[05:23] <dandielionous> Of course I did learn a lot.
[05:23] <dark_suic> it's useful when it's not on the repositories
[05:23] <dandielionous> Is there a reason I can't install the one I have?
[05:23] <dark_suic> but apt-get and repositories are the easiest (and better) way to install new software
[05:23] <dandielionous> Well, learning about the repositories is very useful too.
[05:23] <dark_suic> ...
[05:23] <dandielionous> ty for that information.
[05:23] <dark_suic> and with 17000+ packages, u have all that u need
[05:24] <dandielionous> In the repositories?
[05:24] <dandielionous> Okay then I just have to learn how to install from the repostitories and the links that ya'll gave me will teach me that?
[05:24] <dark_suic> yeah
[05:24] <dandielionous> ty dark_suic
[05:24] <dandielionous> ty everyone for all your help.
[05:25] <dark_suic> i dunno if there is a kubuntu apt-get guide, but you could have a look at www.debian.org and look there for howto apt-get
[05:25] <dandielionous> Sorry if I've monopolized the conversation.
[05:25] <dandielionous> ty dark_suic .
[05:25] <dark_suic> nevermind, we are here for giving help
[05:25] <Hobbsee> !apt-get
[05:25] <ubotu> apt-get is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[05:25] <dark_suic> ok :)
[05:26] <Hobbsee> dandielionous: you shouldnt have to compile stuff, usually
[05:26] <dark_suic> i didn't know, i used debian apt-get howto
[05:26] <dandielionous> Okay I'm bookmarking all the pages now and then going to study.
[05:26] <dandielionous> That's the main reason I switched from Mandrake linux which I used for three weeks.
[05:26] <dandielionous> I couldn'
[05:26] <dandielionous> I couldn't figure out how to install things.
[05:26] <dandielionous> And I couldn't have someone hold my hand the whole way.
[05:27] <dandielionous> And I didn't want to spend two years figuring out how to use the program.
[05:27] <dandielionous> lol
[05:27] <dark_suic> :P
[05:27] <dandielionous> ty I think I have enough information now to confuse myself for a little while.
[05:27] <dandielionous> I'll see ya'll later.
[05:28] <dark_suic> buffff, it's been a minute in which i was attending 4 or 5 people at the same time...
[05:28] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:28] <dark_suic> my head is starting to bloooooow :P
[05:29] <Hobbsee> yeah, brain dead-ness often occurs
[05:29] <dark_suic> :P
[05:29] <dark_suic> i'm starting to think of going to bed (5:30 AM here :P)
[05:29] <xtacocorex> anyone know what file sets the variable: DESKTOP_SESSION ?
[05:30] <xtacocorex> I know it's given from kdm
[05:30] <xtacocorex> but i'm sure there has to be a file too
[05:30] <dark_suic> .xsession?
[05:31] <xtacocorex> dark_suic: well, this is what i'm trying to go after (saves the while typing thing) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=112072
[05:32] <xtacocorex> it gets listed when you use printenv
[05:32] <dark_suic> that is too much for me, sorry :(
[05:33] <xtacocorex> it's all good, i usually end up posting way too technical threads on the forum
[05:33] <dark_suic> i'll try to dig into  the matter, i like challenges, but not today, at 5:30 am :P
[05:33] <dark_suic> see you all :)
[05:34] <xtacocorex> thanks dark_suic
[05:34] <xtacocorex> see you later
[05:51] <soundmaster80> hello, i have a synaptics touchpad and running kde it seems too sensitive, i have turned acceleration down to x1 but it's still too quick, any suggestions on how i could slow it down more?
[05:55] <xtacocorex> soundmaster80: this forum thread is about alps touchpads, has an xorg.conf file listed right at the beginning for comparing against yours: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78904
[06:00] <soundmaster80> ok thank you...i will have to try some things in it
[06:00] <xtacocorex> soundmaster80: np
[06:05] <xtacocorex> well enough fluxbox for tonight, back to kde
[06:05] <woddf2> Haldo
[06:06] <woddf2> I can't install KMail!
[06:08] <dereks_> woddf2: thats cuz its already installed :)
[06:09] <woddf2> I upgraded to KDE 3.5.
[06:09] <dereks_> woddf2: is kontact or kpim there?
[06:09] <woddf2> That uninstalled it.
[06:09] <dereks_> woddf2: not on mine
[06:09] <woddf2> Kontact is there, but KMail, KAddressBook, etc. are not there.
[06:10] <dereks_> weir
[06:10] <dereks_> d
[06:43] <sampan> i have a wee problem.  i just put a previously used HD into a USB enclosure.  it's working fine, but i have FIVE partitions on that drive and want to delete them all, repartitioning and reformatting into 2 (one ext3, one vfat).  since it's usb it's mounted into /media ... how do i go about it all?
[06:45] <kkathman> sampan: was this drive in a winbox?
[06:45] <sampan> yeah, two of the partitions are NTFS
[06:46] <sampan> but i want to delete them all and start over
[06:46] <kkathman> sampan do you happen to have partition magic?
[06:46] <kkathman> on the winbox that is
[06:46] <sampan> nope -- i have NO windows installation anymore
[06:47] <sampan> i can reformat the entire drive -- the data is useless (i.e., i've gotten all the important data off already)
[06:47] <kkathman> ok..then why not just make it a slave on your linux box, then boot up, and use gparted or qtparted to partition?
[06:47] <psyk> how do you unrar an archive
[06:47] <psyk> ive got all the software that i need i just forget the command
[06:47] <sampan> kkathman  because i have a slave drive already and i'd rather not dig around switching it in and then have to switch it back out?
[06:48] <kkathman> psyk install unrar-free from the repos :)
[06:48] <psyk> yah i got thar
[06:48] <psyk> that what do i type
[06:48] <kkathman> sampan: hmm.. well ok, but I think you need to get in online first to do the disk partitioning/formatting
[06:49] <sampan> kkathman  how do you mean?  as in, the USB connection isn't good enough?  it's "online" -- i can mount/unmount, use the partitions, read data
[06:50] <kkathman> psyk if you have installed it...type  man unrar-free for details
[06:50] <kkathman> sampan: Im not 100% sure if you can partition on a USB...maybe
[06:50] <kkathman> sampan: I know you can if its a slave
[06:51] <psyk> unrar-free
[06:51] <kkathman> psyk  no,  type     man unrar-free     at the konsole to get details on how to execute it
[06:52] <kkathman> psyk in general  unrar-free -x  <file>   if I remember correctly
[06:52] <psyk> no no
[06:54] <psyk> werd
[06:54] <sampan> kkathman  i guess i just assume it's possible since linux treats everything as a file anyway -- the means of connection shouldn't (i would guess) make a difference
[06:55] <kkathman> sampan: Im just not familiar completely with being able to format a USB drive, but perhaps its completely possible as long as you can mount it
[06:57] <sampan> kkathman  yeah, the guys in #ubuntu are saying to just use the same CLI commands (cfdisk/mkfs) as with any other disk
[06:57] <kkathman> sampan: in fact fdisk and qtparted should work fine as long as the device is recognized and mounted
[06:58] <kkathman> sure
[06:58] <kkathman> I used fdisk for everything
[06:58] <kkathman> but you can use gparted or qtparted also
[07:00] <sampan> i guess i don't have either of those installed (locate doesn't find either on my machine)-- are they GUI?
[07:00] <kkathman> sampan both gparted (gnome) and qtparted (kde) are partition magic clones and you must install them from the repos, yes
[07:01] <sampan> kk, thanks :)
[07:01] <kkathman> sampan: sure np my friend :)
[07:06] <sampan> kkathman  yeah, qtparted made quick work of that
[07:06] <sampan> woot :)
[07:07] <kkathman> excellent!
[07:07] <sampan> gotta love more storage!  it's like suddenly having a walk-in closet in the bedroom!
[07:08] <kkathman> LOL
[07:11] <_kaenat> Hi, I was looking to install ethereal, but 'apt-cache search ethereal' returns no results.
[07:11] <nalioth> !info ethereal
[07:11] <ubotu> ethereal: (network traffic analyzer), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.10.12-2ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 485 kB, Installed size: 1312 kB
[07:12] <kanibal> hi!
[07:12] <kkathman> _kaenat: its in the repos, you might want to check your sources.list to make sure everything is enabled and your cd-rom is commented out
[07:12] <_kaenat> kkathman: ok ty
[07:13] <kkathman> _kaenat: chances are your universe and multiverse lines either dont exist or are commented out.
[07:14] <kanibal> anyone can help me?, i can' t do "ping localhost", thanks
[07:14] <kkathman> kanibal: what happens when you do a ping?
[07:15] <kanibal> can't contact localhost
[07:15] <_kaenat> kanibal: Does ping <IP_ADDRESS> work?
[07:15] <kanibal> nothing conect
[07:16] <kanibal> no
[07:16] <kanibal> not
[07:16] <kkathman> kanibal: can you ping anything else?
[07:17] <_kaenat> kanibal: Does /sbin/ifconfig show the lo device?
[07:17] <kanibal> it seem that don't recognice my card
[07:18] <kanibal> but in hoary i don'tt have this problem
[07:18] <_jeff> hey guys
[07:18] <_jeff> does anyone know why vlc is so ugly?
[07:18] <_jeff> is there any way to pretty it a little?
[07:19] <_jeff> gangsters?
[07:19] <kanibal> ping www.google.com works
[07:20] <sas171> _jeff: try to search ubuntuforums for vlc ugly
[07:20] <_jeff> lol ok
[07:20] <sas171> i think i saw some sollution there =)
[07:20] <kanibal> but ping localhost and ping <IP_ADDRESS> don't connect
[07:22] <sas171> _kaenat: ive just noticed, that i have no lo in my ifconfig, but i configured it in interfaces, would you mind if i ask you to pastebin your interfaces?
[07:23] <kanibal> ok
[07:25] <kanibal> sorry, ifconfig shows etho and pppo only!!
[07:25] <sas171> kanibal: mine either
[07:27] <kanibal> that address must be open always?
[07:28] <kanibal> sorry
[07:28] <kanibal> localhost address must be open always?
[07:28] <AnotherData> where can i find the win32 codecs in adept?
[07:31] <sas171> AnotherData: there is no port
[07:31] <sas171> too late :p
[07:35] <kanibal> sas171: what can i do?
[07:37] <sas171> kanibal: sorry no ideas
[07:37] <kanibal> in my network interfaces the eth0 is disabled, and when i try to enable don't do it
[07:37] <kanibal> ok
[07:38] <sas171> kanibal: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[07:39] <kanibal> ok, wait
[07:39] <_kaenat> sas171: http://rafb.net/paste/results/vehyGL41.html
[07:40] <kanibal> #This file ...
[07:40] <_kaenat> kanibal: does lo show up if you do /sbin/ifconfig -a ?
[07:40] <kanibal> # The loopback network interface
[07:40] <kanibal> auto lo
[07:41] <kanibal> iface lo inet loopback
[07:41] <kanibal> # This is a list of hotpluggable network interfaces.
[07:41] <kanibal> # They will be activated automatically by the hotplug subsystem.
[07:41] <kanibal> mapping hotplug
[07:41] <sas171> arrrrrrrr
[07:41] <kanibal>         script grep
[07:41] <kanibal>         map eth0
[07:41] <kanibal> # The primary network interface
[07:41] <kanibal> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[07:41] <kanibal> auto dsl-provider
[07:41] <kanibal> iface dsl-provider inet ppp
[07:41] <kanibal> provider dsl-provider
[07:41] <kanibal> # added by pppoeconf
[07:41] <kanibal> auto eth0
[07:41] <kanibal>     pre-up /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up # line maintained by pppoeconf
[07:41] <_kaenat> kanibal: use http://rafb.net/paste for large files rather than flooding the channel
[07:41] <kanibal> ~
[07:42] <kanibal> sorry
[07:42] <kanibal> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[07:42] <sas171> !pastebin
[07:42] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:42] <kanibal>           LOOPBACK  MTU:16436  Metric:1
[07:42] <kanibal>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[07:42] <kanibal>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[07:42] <kanibal>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
[07:42] <kanibal>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
[07:42] <kanibal> again!
[07:42] <kanibal> ok, sorry
[07:44] <_kaenat> kanibal: Try sudo /sbin/ifconfig lo up
[07:45] <kanibal> it woooooooorkkkkks
[07:45] <kanibal> thanks
[07:46] <sas171> kanibal: for that one time, you want ot write valid interfaces...
[07:46] <_kaenat> weird
[07:46] <kanibal> save me to reinstall
[07:49] <stevenj> Ok I have installed Kubuntu 7 times and tried to install KDE 3.5 7 different ways using default repo (US Non US) Psychocats repos list.   Kmail is messed up....dependacies missing.  Apt-get upgrade holds these back, dist-upgrade installs all but returns an error, dist-upgrade -f installs (Removed by the original dist-upgrade) dependacies.  Why is the process BRoken????
[07:50] <stevenj> The Kubuntu "official" KDE 3.5 upgrade is Broken.
[07:52] <stevenj> Is the newly announced official kde3.5 upgrade a "stable" release or testing? If its testing then ok I can understand.
[07:52] <cameron> anyone here who could help me with ndiswrapper?
[07:53] <sas171> stevenj: i got the kubuntu cd yesterday and installed KDE 3.5 today. Im hearing my favourite ODB album, chating with you and reading my email without problems, adept is ok... so you are doing something wrong
[07:53] <nalioth> stevenj: is it in the official ubuntu repos yet?
[07:53] <Mez> cameron, probably get more response in #ubuntu regarding that
[07:53] <cameron> Mez: kk, thx
[07:54] <stevenj> yes I am installing the official 3.5 from the dep listed on the kubuntu site.
[07:54] <nalioth> stevenj: only things from archive.ubuntu.com are 'official'
[07:54] <stevenj> This is what I am doing, please correct me if I am wrong somewhere
[07:55] <sas171> stevenj: over kubuntu or ubuntu distro?
[07:59] <stevenj> I install Kubuntu distro.  I enable repo. I apt-get update. I apt-get upgrade. I reboot. I insert the dep for kde 3.5 located on the kubuntu website.  I install key for deb. I type apt-get update. I type apt-get dist-upgrade.  I watch it install kde 3.5.  when its finished it says error 1.  I apt-dist upgrade.  Missing dependcies for kontact, etc. I type apt-get dist-upgrade -f.  I watch KDE 3.5 reinstall.  Kmail, kNews, Sync is br
[08:00] <stevenj> Am I missing something?
[08:01] <Hobbsee> stevenj: yes, a pastebin of the dependancy errors you got
[08:01] <sas171> hm, all i did is kubuntu distro than just adding that deb line and apgrading with adept...
[08:02] <Hobbsee> sas171: and it worked for you?
[08:03] <stevenj> http://pastebin.com/491391
[08:04] <sas171> Hobbsee: I have all the new versions and no errors at all
[08:04] <Hobbsee> stevenj: sudo apt-get install kdepim?  what does that do?
[08:04] <stevenj> for some reason when you do an initial apt-get dist-upgrade it removes some things and related to this list
[08:04] <stevenj> one sec
[08:05] <Hobbsee> sas171: good
[08:05] <cameron> how do I extract files from a .exe?  stupid question I know >.<
[08:06] <stevenj> Hobbsee, it does this http://pastebin.com/491393
[08:07] <stevenj> for some reason the apt-get dis-upgrade removes libkdepim1a
[08:07] <stevenj> I think
[08:07] <Hobbsee> stevenj: try installing libkdepim1a and libkcal2b
[08:07] <Mez> Hobbsee, it's an icon
[08:07] <Mez> not a confg option
[08:07] <Hobbsee> mmm...true
[08:08] <stevenj> Hobbsee, haa they both depend on each other therefore wont install and says I need the other one
[08:09] <Hobbsee> install them together then...
[08:09] <Hobbsee> sudo apt-get install libkdepim1a libkcal2b
[08:10] <stevenj> nope conflicts
[08:11] <stevenj> Did you see anything I was doing wrong when installing?
[08:12] <Hobbsee> try force installing those two
[08:12] <Hobbsee> no, should have been right
[08:12] <stevenj> they won't install with a -f
[08:13] <Hobbsee> darn!
[08:13] <stevenj> I can reinstall kubuntu, if I just knew the steps everyone else seems to be taking
[08:14] <Hobbsee> they should be right, i'm not sure why it's screwed up at the moment
[08:14] <stevenj> think my disc is bad
[08:14] <stevenj> cant believe I am the only one they cant get it installed.
[08:16] <Hobbsee> Mez: you're on dapper, right?
[08:17] <stevenj> Even before I attempt to install 3.5, I just install the regular "supported" updates (standard repo) and its updates some kde 3.4 stuff....it breaks knews and sync.
[08:18] <stevenj> I sure that could be fix by installing something else separate...
[08:18] <stevenj> well thanks anyway...guess I need some sleep/.
[08:24] <Hobbsee> is anyone here on dapper, and have they got the xorg updates (within the last few hours)?  If so, is X now broken, or does it still work?
[08:26] <cameron> how do I make ndiswrapper start with kubuntu?
[08:26] <sampan> holy moly -- i just want to say that krusader with the krename add-on is truly amazing -- 850 files renamed in 5 seconds
[08:28] <Hobbsee> sampan: wow!
[08:29] <sampan> :D  i've put off renaming all those mp3s for AGES because the # of mouseclicks and typing to do so was so daunting -- that just made my night :)
[08:30] <Hobbsee> :D
[08:30] <sampan> <--- easily satisfied :X
[08:33] <cameron> anyone know how to make a program start with kubuntu?
[08:34] <Hobbsee> cameron: symlink into ~/.kde/Autostart
[08:35] <cameron> Hobbsee: how do I do that?  (I honnestly know nothing :P)
[08:35] <Hobbsee> !symlink
[08:35] <ubotu> symlink is, like, ln -s /path/to/file/or/dir /path/to/link
[08:35] <Hobbsee> which program do you want to start?
[08:35] <cameron> ndiswrapper
[08:36] <Hobbsee> and where's it installed?  use locate ndiswrapper
[08:36] <cameron>     /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper
[08:37] <cameron>  /var/cache/apt/archives/ndiswrapper-utils_1.1-4ubuntu2_i386.deb
[08:37] <cameron> aswell
[08:37] <slingblade> how would you use ndiswrapper anyway?
[08:37] <Hobbsee> is there anything else it says there?
[08:37] <cameron> just those two Hobbsee
[08:38] <Hobbsee> no, hang on, you presumably want that to start when the system boots
[08:38] <cameron> slingblade: ndiswrapper -m
[08:38] <cameron> Hobbsee: yes
[08:38] <slingblade> cameron, what happens if I do that?
[08:39] <Hobbsee> hmmm....
[08:39] <cameron> slingblade: nothing, unless youve installed ndiswrapper
[08:39] <Hobbsee> i dont remember how you do that
[08:39] <slingblade> I have it installed
[08:39] <Hobbsee> it goes into /etc/init.something
[08:39] <Hobbsee> but more than that, i couldnt tell you
[08:39] <cameron> Hobbsee: maybe add ndiswrapper to /etc/modules?
[08:39] <cameron> slingblade: loads the drivers youve installed
[08:39] <Hobbsee> could well be
[08:40] <slingblade> ah, ok....thank you :)
[08:40] <kkathman> Hobbsee: /etc/rc3.d/* ???
[08:40] <Hobbsee> i really have no idea kkathman - i'd appreciate if you could step in and help
[08:41] <kkathman> Hobbsee: whats the issue?
[08:41] <Hobbsee> needs to load ndiswrapper at startup
[08:42] <kkathman> ahh.. maybe best to put that in the inittab ?
[08:42] <kkathman> I'd have to figure the best place to start it
[08:43] <kkathman> probably at the end of the inittab
[08:43] <kkathman> after it runs all the rcX.d processes
[08:43] <cameron> wouldnt just loading the module work?
[08:44] <kkathman> cameron: sure absolutely if that exists
[08:44] <cameron> cause thats how i'd load it manually
[08:44] <kkathman> one might even put that in the rcX.d directory and stage when it runs
[08:44] <kkathman> X being your default run level
[08:45] <cameron> ive no idea what rcX.d directory and stage is =\
[08:45] <kkathman> you'd want to load it probably after S20inetd
[08:45] <kkathman> maybe down the line a bit
[08:45] <XaXXon> does kubuntu eat babies?
[08:46] <cameron> XaXXon: only yours
[08:46] <XaXXon> that's not good.  for me, I mean
[08:46] <XaXXon> I'm preparing for a live session
[08:46] <kkathman> cameron: if you are at run-level 2 then look in /etc/rc2.d  the programs run in the order they are listed
[08:47] <kkathman> cameron: on you could just open /etc/inittab and load it at the end or after the /etc/rcX.d/S* statement
[08:47] <cameron> k
[08:47] <kkathman> cameron: are you running it manually now?
[08:47] <cameron> yes
[08:47] <kkathman> after KDE boots?
[08:48] <cameron> well, I havent actually rebooted this install yet.
[08:48] <cameron> xD
[08:48] <kkathman> ahh ok
[08:48] <kkathman> I'd for sure wait till after S20inetd runs I think
[08:48] <cameron> <3 HDD failure...  had to go buy another one.  read/right head messed itself
[08:49] <cameron> kkathman: I think I can do it with modules, just using the /etc/modules file, but if that doesnt work il give the other way a try
[08:49] <XaXXon> kubuntu spit out my baby.  it said it wasn't very tasty.  actually, it's loading, it just takes a long time to boot a live cd on my powerbook.  I hope this is cool :)
[08:49] <cameron> XaXXon: ever used linux before?
[08:49] <XaXXon> cameron, a friend of mine did once
[08:49] <XaXXon> :)  Yeah
[08:49] <kkathman> cameron: good luck :)
[08:50] <cameron> thanks for your help :)
[08:50] <cameron> heh, the one other thing that gets me... is under system settings, network settings, it says click administration mode to make changes... and yet...  there is no administration mode button.  its as if the window is borked.
[08:51] <Hobbsee> cameron: alt+f2, kdesu kcontrol
[08:52] <cameron> Hobbsee: have my babies?
[08:52] <Hobbsee> no, i'll pass
[08:52] <cameron> darn
[08:52] <cameron> xD
[08:52] <sampan> --
[08:53] <sampan> ack -- sorry .. book fell on the keys
[08:53] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:53] <cameron> Hobbsee: is there any way to make a file that executes that command?
[08:53] <Hobbsee> sure, write a shell script for it
[08:53] <Hobbsee> !shell
[08:53] <ubotu> rumour has it, shell is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[08:53] <Hobbsee> !script
[08:53] <ubotu> Hobbsee: I give up, what is it?
[08:53] <Hobbsee> oh
[08:55] <cameron> shell scripts are .sh right??
[08:55] <Hobbsee> yes
[08:55] <cameron> ok
[08:57] <Hobbsee> cameron: see http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ for a good, comprehensive guide
[08:58] <cameron> thanks :D
[09:11] <cameron> :O im happy, I made a shell script to do alt+f2, kdesu kcontrol
[09:11] <Hobbsee> :D
[09:11] <Hobbsee> you could have just typed kdesu kcontrol into a console
[09:13] <cameron> yeah I know
[09:13] <cameron> but now I have a button to click!
[09:13] <cameron> cause id forget the command
[09:13] <Set> wow
[09:13] <cameron> sad, isnt it
[09:13] <cameron> :|
[09:13] <Set> no, it's cool :)
[09:14] <Set> I like it that ppl make sollutions for themselves
[09:15] <cameron> is 3.5 worth upgrading to?
[09:16] <visik7> my su/sudo programs change my locales to POSIX
[09:17] <visik7> how can I say to them to use $user locale ?
[09:18] <cameron> il take the lack of answer as a resounding yes?
[09:19] <Set> 3.5 is great
[09:19] <Set> Kopete has webcam
[09:20] <cameron> wait
[09:20] <cameron> so now I can watch all the strippers in linux?
[09:20] <cameron> sweeet.
[09:22] <Set> yep
[09:22] <cameron> hrm
[09:22] <visik7> asd
[09:22] <cameron> so after adding the link to my source file, what exactly do I execute?  I dont really want to screw this up
[09:23] <visik7> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[09:25] <cameron> hmm
[09:25] <cameron> nothing there
[09:26] <cameron> note to self.
[09:26] <Hobbsee> cameron: yes, it is worth updating
[09:26] <cameron> hit apply when adding repositories
[09:26] <cameron> .
[09:53] <zitoune> hello
[09:54] <sas171> hi
[10:33] <Zdr4vk0> how can i generate my own publik and private key?
[10:33] <Tm_T> ssh?
[10:33] <Tm_T> rsa?
[10:34] <Tm_T> ssh-keygen -t rsa ?
[10:36] <Zdr4vk0> 10x
[10:53] <Zdr4vk0> are there packages of deKorator for kubuntu?
[10:53] <Jaymac> not as far as i know
[10:54] <Tonio_> Tm_T and all : hi
[10:54] <Tm_T> hullo
[10:54] <Tonio_> Tm_T: an idea concerning kubuntu profiles
[10:54] <Zdr4vk0> argh
[10:55] <Tonio_> I have seen that when you load a file via a kpart, like kpdf for example
[10:55] <Tm_T> Tonio_: yes?
[10:55] <Tonio_> you don't get complementary buttons
[10:55] <Tonio_> to zoom etc...
[10:55] <Tm_T> ah you mean konqueror
[10:55] <Tonio_> very annoying with gwenview and images
[10:55] <Tm_T> or what?
[10:55] <Tonio_> hum
[10:55] <Tm_T> hmm, I do get those buttons
[10:56] <Tm_T> in gwenview and konqueror etc
[10:56] <Tm_T> but, dapper
[10:56] <Tonio_> Tm_T: you don't have the kubuntu simplified profiles, do you ?
[10:56] <Tonio_> I do
[10:56] <Tonio_> I do when launching kpdf
[10:56] <Tonio_> but not when konq load it as a kpart
[10:57] <Tonio_> maybe you have the full profiles, I assume
[10:57] <Tm_T> Tonio_: no I don't
[10:57] <Tonio_> okay, let's see
[10:57] <Tm_T> yes full profiles
[10:57] <Tonio_> that's why ;)
[10:57] <Tonio_> I think I will reactivate that in the simplified profiles
[10:57] <Tonio_> konq is everything but a static application....
[10:57] <Zdr4vk0> ARGH
[10:58] <Tonio_> it has to stay like that :)
[10:58] <Zdr4vk0> /bin/sed: can't read /lib/libacl.la: No such file or directory
[10:58] <Zdr4vk0> libtool: link: `/lib/libacl.la' is not a valid libtool archive
[10:58] <Zdr4vk0> why's that?
[10:59] <Tonio_> tonio@Kubuntu:~$ apt-file search libacl.la
[10:59] <Tonio_> libacl1-dev: lib/libacl.la
[10:59] <Tonio_> Zdr4vk0: install libacl1-dev package
[11:00] <Zdr4vk0> i hop this work...
[11:00] <Tonio_> it should ;)
[11:00] <Tonio_> No such file or directory -> the message is clear, it isn't there, and installing will put it there, so.....
[11:01] <Zdr4vk0> dekorator 0.2 rocks
[11:03] <visik7> how can I enable kio-fuse ???
[11:04] <sas171> ho-ho-ho, somebody of you installed kde-devel on kubuntu 5.10 with kde 3.5, I think there is a bug...
[11:04] <Zdr4vk0> Tonio_: another error message...
[11:04] <Zdr4vk0> /bin/sed: can't read /lib/libattr.la: No such file or directory
[11:04] <Zdr4vk0> libtool: link: `/lib/libattr.la' is not a valid libtool archive
[11:05] <Zdr4vk0> but i can't find that file in packages
[11:08] <sas171> any ideas how could i work it out?
[11:09] <Zdr4vk0> in  my comp, it works good, sas171
[11:09] <Zdr4vk0> YES!
[11:10] <Zdr4vk0> i finaly compiled dekorator...
[11:10] <nalioth> Zdr4vk0: hang on i can help you
[11:10] <nalioth> Zdr4vk0: gotta go find a control file
[11:10] <nalioth> brb
[11:11] <Zdr4vk0> nalioth: i don't need help, i'm done compiling and installing
[11:11] <sas171> there is my output:  http://pastebin.com/491496
[11:11] <nalioth> Zdr4vk0: libacl1-dev, libattr1-dev   you don't need these 2 files?
[11:11] <sas171> is there kdelibs4-dev??
[11:11] <Zdr4vk0> i installed them
[11:12] <nalioth> sas171: yes there is
[11:17] <Zdr4vk0> oh my god
[11:17] <Zdr4vk0> OMG
[11:17] <jpatrick> Zdr4vk0: ?
[11:17] <Zdr4vk0> hmm... i've installed dekorator successfully, but... when i select theme and apply, i am without windeco's
[11:18] <jpatrick> Zdr4vk0: I hope you did ./configure --prefix=/usr
[11:18] <Zdr4vk0> umm... no, i did only ./configure
[11:19] <jpatrick> that explains it
[11:19] <jpatrick> just reconfigure and install
[11:19] <Zdr4vk0> OK
[11:19] <Zdr4vk0> and remove the checkinstall package
[11:19] <jpatrick> (no need to recompile)
[11:19] <Zdr4vk0> OK
[11:21] <jpatrick> remake the package
[11:21] <Zdr4vk0> installing debian package...
[11:22] <Zdr4vk0>  Done. The new package has been installed and saved to
[11:22] <Zdr4vk0>  /home/penguinzdravko/deKorator-0.2-fix1/dekorator-0.2-fix1_fix1-1_i386.deb
[11:22] <sas171> what is actualy dekorator?
[11:22] <jpatrick> ok
[11:22] <Zdr4vk0> now lets try again
[11:22] <Zdr4vk0> jpatrick: Kwin deco
[11:22] <jpatrick> no that was sas171 asking :)
[11:22] <Zdr4vk0> ah sorry
[11:23] <Zdr4vk0> sas171: kwin deco
[11:23] <jpatrick> where is that win deco?
[11:23] <Zdr4vk0> jpatrick: it don't works again :(
[11:23] <jpatrick> link to src?
[11:25] <Zdr4vk0> http://www.motyr.5gigs.com/deKorator/0.2/SOURCE/deKorator-0.2-fix1.tar.gz
[11:27] <Zdr4vk0> i will try to wuit and start my session again
[11:27] <Zdr4vk0> quit*
[11:27] <Zdr4vk0> brb
[11:28] <chx> hi. i am looking for an applet to show my hard disk & CPU temperature in the kicker
[11:29] <Hobbsee> chx: k....
[11:29] <penguinzdr> i love the life!
[11:29] <penguinzdr> it works :)
[11:29] <Hobbsee> ah crud...
[11:29] <Hobbsee> ksensors, that's it!
[11:29] <Hobbsee> mental block there!
[11:31] <chx> Hobbsee: ksensors is only lm-sensors
[11:31] <chx> Hobbsee: i think i want ksim
[11:31] <jpatrick> penguinzdr: I don't think that the theme works
[11:32] <penguinzdr> jpatrick: it works, you need to restart your session
[11:32] <jpatrick> penguinzdr: says in the README -> this is example code
[11:32] <penguinzdr> this is the readme from the howto make kwin decos
[11:32] <penguinzdr> bye
[11:32] <penguinzdr> i got to go
[11:34] <chx> http://ksensors.sourceforge.net/ i am wrong and ksensors work w/ hddtemp
[11:34] <chx> good!
[11:34] <Hobbsee> oh good!  my brain hasnt gone crazy then!
[11:34] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: don't panic!
[11:35] <Hobbsee> hehe hi jpatrick
[11:35] <jpatrick> hi Hobbsee
[11:35] <Hobbsee> i'll try not to panic...
[11:35] <jpatrick> it's number one rule ;)
[11:36] <chx> Hobbsee: sorry for my brainfart
[11:36] <chx> Hobbsee: now... how do i know what's temp1 , temp2 and temp3?
[11:37] <Hobbsee> man ksensors
[11:37] <Hobbsee> as i dont remember lol...
[11:37] <Hobbsee> i think it's fairly obvious
[11:37] <chx> errr yes?
[11:38] <jpatrick> chx: open konqueror and type: man:/ksensors
[11:40] <johnflux> I have mandrake on my laptop
[11:40] <johnflux> I burnt a kubuntu cd but I cannot boot from it for some reason
[11:40] <johnflux> stupid laptop ;)
[11:40] <jpatrick> johnflux: checked the MD5 sums?
[11:41] <johnflux> jpatrick: it's just simply not booting any cd it seems
[11:41] <johnflux> jpatrick: I tried a couple.  i've heard of machines that don't boot from writable cd's
[11:41] <johnflux> jpatrick: it's strange..
[11:41] <jpatrick> johnflux: checked the BIOS? ;)
[11:42] <johnflux> can i run the kubuntu install on the cd from mandrake?
[11:42] <johnflux> jpatrick: there doesn't seem to be anything relevant, other than the boot order.  it gives me an option on boot up for what device to boot from
[11:43] <jpatrick> hmm
[11:45] <johnflux> jpatrick: oh.  linux doesn't see the cd drive
[11:46] <sas171> how to see whether files where installed by package?
[11:46] <johnflux> jpatrick: maybe something is physically broken /disconnected inside
[11:46] <visik7> sas171: dpkg -L
[11:46] <jpatrick> maybe that's it..
[11:46] <sas171> thx
[11:49] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: homework?
[11:49] <vega-> is there kde user settings anywhere else than under .kde?
[11:49] <johnflux> vega-: s/is/are/    and no
[11:49] <sas171> what dock are using? i just tryied smoothdock, its not for me...
[11:50] <vega-> so for example the k menu entries are there too? i mean if one has edited them by hand
[11:50] <sas171> *are you using
[11:50] <johnflux> vega-: yeah somewhere in there
[11:51] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: yeah it's annoying...
[11:51] <vega-> hm ok, so by deleting .kde i should get a completely fresh start?
[11:51] <johnflux> vega-: i recomend you mv it rather than delete it,  also remember you will lose any stored passwords, kopete contacts, and so on
[11:52] <vega-> johnflux: actually already did that, but the problem is that i cannot find konsole in the menu after a fresh start
[11:52] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: for every holiday - we get a stack of homework
[11:52] <vega-> there's only gnome-terminal
[11:52] <johnflux> vega-: have you installed konsole?
[11:52] <vega-> johnflux: yes
[11:52] <johnflux> vega-: apt-get install konsole   ;)
[11:53] <johnflux> vega-: remove it then re install
[11:53] <vega-> let's try that..
[11:53] <johnflux> vega-: apt-get {remove,install} konsole
[11:53] <jpatrick> vega-: sudo apt-get install -reinstall konsole
[11:53] <visik7> using --reinstall ???
[11:53] <vega-> The following packages will be REMOVED: konsole kubuntu-desktop
[11:53] <vega-> hmm
[11:53] <visik7> you can remove safly kubuntu-desktop
[11:54] <johnflux> that's okay - i think kubuntu-desktop is just virtual
[11:54] <jpatrick> use the --reinstall flag
[11:54] <vega-> ah ok
[11:54] <johnflux> do what jpatrick says
[11:54] <johnflux> although I liked my solution for using {} :)
[11:55] <vega-> --reinstall it seems..
[11:55] <vega-> also another odd thing is that the lost&found menu is FULL of crap.. i mean hundreds of entries
[11:56] <johnflux> hmmm
[11:56] <vega-> and two of everything in there :)
[11:56] <johnflux> very strange
[11:56] <johnflux> ask on #kde and/or #freedesktop
[11:56] <johnflux> vega-: shouldn't be like that :)
[11:56] <vega-> well, not at least konsole appeared
[11:56] <vega-> johnflux: probably not :)
[11:57] <vega-> not=now
[11:57] <johnflux> vega-: let me know the problem if you find out
[11:57] <vega-> will do
[11:57] <johnflux> vega-: and i'll try to add some code to prevent it from happening again
[11:57] <vega-> oh btw i'm using kde 3.5 (from topic)
[11:57] <vega-> if that matters
[11:58] <johnflux> vega-: i would have been slightly annoyed if it was anything less ;)
[11:58] <jpatrick> hmm
[11:58] <vega-> another thing, i have this problem still: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4343
[11:58] <vega-> :)
[11:58] <johnflux> vega-: i mean uh that it's a pain to track down bugs on old versions of software
[11:59] <vega-> i understand
[12:00] <johnflux> vega-: do you have xorg 6.8.2-1
[12:00] <johnflux> vega-: if so, reopen the bug
[12:00] <vega-> the xset dpms force off workaround does the trick for me regarding the "second monitor blank" bug
[12:00] <vega-> johnflux: the newest that is in ubuntu
[12:00] <johnflux> vega-: add that comment about xset to the bug comments
[12:00] <vega-> 6.8.2-77 it seems
[12:01] <vega-> the odd thing is that gnome works fine with two monitors
[12:01] <vega-> but i'll add my experiences to the bug comments
[12:02] <johnflux> vega-: thanks
[12:02] <johnflux> vega-: it can be very difficult to fix such bugs totally
[12:02] <vega-> so i should also set status to reopen?
[12:02] <johnflux> vega-: there's thousands of hardware combinations
[12:02] <johnflux> vega-: yes reopen
[12:03] <johnflux> vega-: worst case is someone shouts at you because you've made a mistake ;)
[12:04] <chx> Hobbsee: this is deep. to get hdd temperatures reported, one needs to install hddtemp suid root. this is very unintuitive as hddtemp has a daemon mode and one thinks that ksensors would use that.
[12:05] <johnflux> chx: file a bug
[12:05] <johnflux> chx: on bugs.kde.og
[12:05] <johnflux> chx: on bugs.kde.org
[12:05] <vega-> johnflux: sounds very rewarding :)
[12:05] <vega-> hmm, am i even allowed to change the status
[12:05] <chx> johnflux: well, there's dpkg-reconfigure hddtemp to make suid install easier... but ok, i'll fill one
[12:07] <johnflux> chx: file a wish for ksensors to use hddtemp
[12:07] <Hobbsee> chx: really?
[12:07] <chx> johnflux: hddtemp daemon. yep.
[12:07] <chx> Hobbsee: really.
[12:08] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: ah yes, i used to get that each holidays too - this holidays with none of it has been so nice!
[12:09] <jpatrick> I have Spanish and Catalan todo
[12:11] <Hobbsee> eww
[12:11] <jpatrick> yep
[12:12] <vega-> johnflux: i added the comment but i don't know how to reopen the bug
[12:13] <johnflux> ask a kubuntu person
[12:13] <johnflux> I only come in here because konversation does so by default ;)
[12:13] <jpatrick> Joh
[12:13] <visik7> asd
[12:13] <vega-> okay :)
[12:13] <jpatrick> johnflux: hello
[12:13] <johnflux> :)
[12:14] <aftertaf> loooool johnflux :)
[12:15] <jpatrick> vega-: reopen what?
[12:15] <johnflux> jpatrick: a kubuntu bug report
[12:15] <jpatrick> where?
[12:15] <acribuntu> hi!
[12:15] <johnflux> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4343
[12:15] <johnflux> ubuntu rather
[12:16] <johnflux> jpatrick: ^^
[12:16] <jpatrick> hm
[12:16] <vega-> kubuntu has it's own bugzilla somewhere?
[12:17] <jpatrick> vega-: no
[12:18] <jpatrick> reopening
[12:18] <jpatrick> oh crap
[12:18] <jpatrick> "You tried to change the Status field from RESOLVED to REOPENED, but only the owner or submitter of the bug, or a sufficiently empowered user, may change that field."
[12:19] <vega-> yep :)
[12:21] <jpatrick> vega-: can't help you there
[12:21] <vega-> well, perhaps the admin does it, at least he is notified by email
[12:26] <jpatrick> wow: http://solid.kde.org/
[12:47] <apokryphos> jpatrick: great, isn't it? :D
[12:47] <apokryphos> I thought Ottens (in his interview some time ago) really hit on some major truths
[12:47] <apokryphos> so good to see something is being done about that 8)
[12:48] <jpatrick> yeah Solid + Tenor + Oxygen + Plasma + KDE4 = wicked
[12:50] <jpatrick> actually is there a Tenor site?
[12:53] <apokryphos> jpatrick: not yet, I don't think.
[12:53] <apokryphos> http://dot.kde.org/1113428593/
[12:54] <jpatrick> shame...
[12:56] <DocTomoe> Is there a way to change all occurences of FOO to BAR within all files of a directory?
[12:56] <apokryphos> DocTomoe: yes, use sed.
[12:57] <apokryphos> DocTomoe: sed -i s/FOO/BAR/ ./*
[12:57] <DocTomoe> is that a Perl-like Regexp?
[12:58] <apokryphos> wouldn't know about perl
[12:58] <crown> hi. under qt, if there is a character missing in the charset, is that possible to force the rendering engine to show the missing char from an other charset? (like under gtk)
[12:59] <crown> my problem is, i cannot show chinese and hungarian characters under qt
[12:59] <crown> with one charset
[12:59] <DocTomoe> crown: how about using UTF-8?
[01:00] <crown> DocTomoe: it's not depend on that. (it seems)
[01:01] <crown> it's an example:  -- rvz
[01:01] <DocTomoe> crown: seems ok for me ... maybe your font is not complete
[01:02] <crown> DocTomoe: what irc client do you use?
[01:02] <crown> DocTomoe: and witch font?
[01:02] <DocTomoe> konversation ... let me check the font ....
[01:03] <DocTomoe> seems to be xft
[01:03] <crown> DocTomoe: i check kate and gedit with Monospace font. gedit shows ok, kate bad.
[01:04] <DocTomoe> crown: then it clearly is a font issue.
[01:04] <crown> DocTomoe: xft is in witch package?
[01:08] <DocTomoe> crown: seriously, i have no idea. you might want to google for "complete unicode font"
[01:13] <joe_alf> how do i randomize screensaver in kubuntu
[01:14] <apokryphos> joe_alf: select the one saying "Random" 8)
[01:15] <joe_alf> apokryphos: okey thanks
[01:23] <buz> is there anything i can do with a laptop that fell into display powersave mode, wont wake up but still can be accessed through the net?
[01:24] <aftertaf> buz:  ssh to it and try restarting gdm?
[01:24] <aftertaf> kdm even ;)
[01:24] <buz> could work
[01:25] <buz> but it still sucks when you're somewhere where ssh isnt available onanother box
[01:25] <aftertaf> you'll lose all running x progs though
[01:25] <aftertaf> management sux,
[01:25] <aftertaf> ergo, power management sux too ;)
[01:25] <buz> is there any reason why it wont wake up anymore
[01:25] <aftertaf>  power management sux > a reason!
[01:26] <buz> you mean i should just turn it off
[01:26] <buz> probably best
[01:26] <aftertaf> yep
[01:26] <aftertaf> brb
[01:29] <dark_suic> hi
[01:30] <jpatrick> dark_suic: lo
[01:30] <dark_suic> :P
[01:30] <dark_suic> i've been having a problem with audiocd:/, it will show all info, but won't extract the cd in mp3 (ok in other formats, but not mp3)
[01:31] <dark_suic> i have installed lame and lame-extras package
[01:31] <dark_suic> but still won't extract
[01:33] <GenghisKhan> dark_suic: you can try kaudiocreator
[01:34] <dark_suic> i know kaudiocreator, but i was trying to find solution to the audiocd:/ problem :P
[01:34] <DocTomoe> dark_suic: is there a good reason you need MP3, like an ancient mp3 portable player or something?
[01:34] <Tm_T> ogg <3
[01:34] <dark_suic> DocTomoe, the reason is that in spain i wasn't able to find an mp3 player which played ogg
[01:34] <DocTomoe> Tm_T: too true
[01:34] <DocTomoe> so, lazyness is the reason ;) ...
[01:34] <dark_suic> i have all my collection in ogg, but trying to rip some original cds instead of downloading them :P
[01:36] <dark_suic> in fact, i'm extracting the cds with audiocd:/ both in ogg and mp3, but mp3 won't create anything but 0b files...
[01:38] <gentix> I like to compile my own kernel. Is there anyway I an get the default kernel settings for ubuntu?
[01:39] <GenghisKhan> gentix: in /boot/config-* you have the config of your actual kernel
[01:39] <gentix> thanx. I'll take a look at it
[01:39] <gentix> _root it's not wise to use linux as root
[02:01] <_matt> Hi!
[02:02] <_matt> anybody using dapper flight 2?
[02:03] <apokryphos> it's pretty old, considering how fast ubuntu development moves
[02:03] <_matt> ok - where do you get the lastest build cd from?
[02:04] <alvaro> hola
[02:04] <alvaro> hi
[02:04] <dark_suic> xD
[02:04] <dark_suic> hi alvaro
[02:05] <alvaro> eres espaol?
[02:06] <alvaro> are you spanish?
[02:06] <apokryphos> _matt: daily builds at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ -- most latest ones should work fine, I think.
[02:06] <apokryphos> _matt: well, fine=reasonable. Dapper is generally broken on many issues
[02:07] <apokryphos> not recommended that you use it, of course; you can quite easily break your system.
[02:07] <alvaro> dark_suic eres espaol?
[02:07] <_matt> apokryphos - thanks, i've been trying to update using adept and that keeps failing!
[02:07] <dark_suic> i am ,alvaro :P
[02:07] <dark_suic> but for spahisn, plz, #kubuntu-es ;)
[02:08] <apokryphos> _matt: what error?
[02:08] <dark_suic> well, i guess i have to go to eat something :P
[02:08] <dark_suic> back in a moment
[02:08] <_matt> ok - i do a full upgrade - says that it has 306 upgrades
[02:09] <alvaro> aqui no hay musica o algo?
[02:09] <skript> if I install KDE3.5 in breezy from kubuntu.org repositories, will there be any problems when dist-upgrading to dapper later on ?
[02:09] <_matt> i do commit changes, then it starts to install
[02:09] <buz> is dapper safe to use on my main desktop?
[02:09] <alvaro> so..here aren't music?
[02:09] <buz> or will it suffer breakage left and right?
[02:10] <alvaro> im spanish
[02:10] <bogdan> hello
[02:10] <apokryphos> _matt: yup...
[02:11] <apokryphos> skript: nope, none.
[02:11] <_matt> kde crash handler reports crashed and caused the signal 11 sigsegv
[02:11] <apokryphos> _matt: so go into a failsafe terminal to finish the installation
[02:11] <skript> apokryphos: great... thx for the reply ;)
[02:11] <apokryphos> though, installing dapper is really a bad idea if you don't really know your stuff.
[02:11] <_matt> i know - but i want to learn my stuff ;-)
[02:12] <dark_suic> alvaro, /j #kubuntu-es
[02:12] <apokryphos> _matt: if you don't mind breaking your system in the proccess, then that's fine (here). :)
[02:12] <virtualgirl> hello
[02:12] <virtualgirl> what is this a chat
[02:13] <apokryphos> virtualgirl: it's the Kubuntu support channel, yes.
[02:13] <virtualgirl> aaa
[02:13] <_matt> i learnt my windows admin skills by breaking and fixing! now I want to learn Kubuntu!
[02:13] <_matt> hi virtualgirl!
[02:13] <virtualgirl> by
[02:14] <_matt> did i scare her off?
[02:14] <_matt> lol!
[02:14] <apokryphos> _matt: learning through breaking is often good, in my experience. Help in here might be a little thin, though -- makes it better for learning, I guess. =)
[02:14] <apokryphos> _matt: yes, it's that tricky underscore before your username :P
[02:15] <_matt> thats just what konversation called me - but matt is cool
[02:15] <buz> apokryphos: well i do know my stuff, but i need the box up and working, so i rather dont install dapper i think ;)
[02:15] <_matt> anyway's how do i go into a failsafe terminal to finish the installation?
[02:16] <apokryphos> hi buz :)
[02:16] <buz> but still i'm drooling over xorg 7  ;)
[02:16] <buz> i want exa ;)
[02:17] <bogdan> hello
[02:17] <apokryphos> buz: nvidia drivers are bust in dapper though
[02:17] <buz> mhh i have ati in this box
[02:17] <apokryphos> :-O
[02:17] <_matt> i cant wait for kde4
[02:17] <buz> nobody can wait for THAT
[02:17] <apokryphos> and we know what X problems ubuntu dev branch always has :P
[02:18] <apokryphos> very happy to hear about Solid yesterday
[02:18] <buz> mhh renderaccel and composite with nvidia on breezy is buggy enough ;)
[02:18] <apokryphos> worked fine for me, apart from a few random bugs. Kopete had problems, as did systemsettings
[02:18] <bogdan> what is black inside and white outside
[02:19] <bogdan> and eat childrens
[02:19] <buz> kept crashing my x every few hours on my gf5200 notebook
[02:19] <alvaro> hi
[02:19] <buz> besides, some toolbars randomly disappeared and fun stuff like that
[02:19] <buz> still, fadeover is very neat
[02:19] <apokryphos> got an fx5200 here and always worked pretty smooth
[02:19] <buz> nooow, if Xgl would make it into dapper
[02:20] <apokryphos> but it's literally perfect on my brother's 6600gt, apart from bugs that is.
[02:20] <virtualgirl> hi
[02:21] <buz> which nvidia drivers are you using? stock ones from breezy?
[02:21] <apokryphos> yup
[02:21] <apokryphos> my brother's on suse though
[02:21] <buz> mhh weird
[02:21] <buz> maybe gf5200 go is buggier than others ;)
[02:22] <buz> it's good enough to make the apple fanboys shut up. after that one can turn it off again LOL
[02:23] <apokryphos> turn it off after the screeny is taken :P
[02:23] <buz> fading isnt particularly impressive on screenshots ;)
[02:23] <apokryphos> true
[02:24] <apokryphos> I love fading 7)
[02:24] <apokryphos> or 8), even
[02:24] <buz> never mind, they are always drooling about my 1400*1050 12" lcd anyway
[02:24] <apokryphos> heh
[02:24] <buz> that's more pixels than the old 17" powerbook has hehe
[02:24] <apokryphos> got a 19" which is really great, but wish it was a 20+
[02:24] <buz> one a notebook?
[02:24] <buz> yeee gods
[02:25] <buz> i got a 20" lcd before me
[02:25] <apokryphos> nope, desktop
[02:25] <buz> neat
[02:25] <buz> i wish i had another one besides it ;)
[02:25] <apokryphos> sweet; default resolution goes up at 20, that's why I'd want one
[02:25] <apokryphos> the world is not enough :P
[02:25] <buz> that's why i paid thru my nose to get one 2 years ago
[02:25] <buz> of course more resolution still would get used
[02:26] <buz> eclipse always needs more space ;)
[02:26] <apokryphos> I'd be pretty happy with another 19" here
[02:26] <apokryphos> they're getting an awful lot cheaper now too
[02:26] <buz> i prefer 17" to 19". pixels are smaller
[02:26] <buz> 19" is for people with bad eyes
[02:27] <Tm_T> 19" is for people who wan't 1600x1200 desktop
[02:27] <buz> thre are 19" with 1600???
[02:27] <buz> where?
[02:27] <Tm_T> crt
[02:27] <apokryphos> :-O
[02:27] <buz> iiieww crt
[02:27] <apokryphos> 1280x1024 here :/
[02:27] <buz> i refuse to ever work with a crt again
[02:27] <buz> and i had good ones
[02:28] <Tm_T> and no, there's no way I'm gonna use lcd as long as their colour output is so sucky
[02:28] <Tm_T> and expensive
[02:28] <buz> as long as the colors look halfways like they should i'm content
[02:28] <buz> i dont think i'd buy a lcd tv jsut now though
[02:28] <Tm_T> buz: so you don't do graphical work
[02:28] <buz> no
[02:29] <Tm_T> aye ;)
[02:29] <buz> i'm totally untalented there
[02:29] <buz> about the only graphics i use is to watch pr0n
[02:29] <_matt> lol!
[02:29] <Tm_T> o   k
[02:30] <apokryphos> films, films
[02:30] <buz> yeah films of all sorts
[02:30] <buz> tho homecinema is preferred, really
[02:30] <_matt> is kubuntu good for home cinima?
[02:31] <buz> dunno
[02:31] <_matt> i have a windows home cinima
[02:31] <buz> i cant afford multi tb storage arrays so i stick to dvds
[02:31] <buz> and i couldnt care less for the crap on german tv, really
[02:32] <_matt> i have a server running debian upstairs with raid HD
[02:32] <buz> yeah me too
[02:32] <buz> but not that much space on it ;)
[02:32] <_matt> that took ages to get working!
[02:32] <_matt> same here I have a 300gb mirror but its almost ran out :-(
[02:36] <_matt> does anyone know when the next flight CD will be out?
[02:38] <admrl_> _matt: have you looked for a release schedule..?
[02:38] <admrl_> _matt: i think distrowatch.com should have one
[02:39] <admrl_> _matt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule
[02:40] <C-O-L-T> hello
[02:40] <_matt> thanks!
[02:40] <_matt> forgot to look there - doh!
[02:41] <C-O-L-T> I need a professional but easy to use photo and video editor for linux. I want to make slideshows of my pictures with music and so on, so I want something like Movie Maker for windows.
[02:41] <C-O-L-T> and than write to dvd
[02:41] <C-O-L-T> or cd
[02:41] <C-O-L-T> does exist something like that?
[02:41] <C-O-L-T> anybody can help me?
[02:42] <admrl_> C-O-L-T: what kind of editing do you want to do
[02:42] <admrl_> you can always use the Gimp
[02:42] <C-O-L-T> admrl_: no the GIMP is not good for me
[02:42] <admrl_> oh and video
[02:42] <C-O-L-T> admrl_: I want to make slideshows of my pictures with music than to write to a dvd to watch in tv
[02:43] <C-O-L-T> do you understand
[02:43] <C-O-L-T> ?
[02:43] <admrl_> yep yep
[02:43] <admrl_> http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3
[02:43] <admrl_> this is for editing videos
[02:44] <admrl_> id check that out i havnt tried it but it should work for what your doing
[02:44] <C-O-L-T> but for slideshows
[02:44] <admrl_> sudo apt-cache search slideshow ..?
[02:45] <admrl_> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Graphics/Slideshow-Creator-8033.shtml
[02:45] <admrl_> this is all else i can find
[02:46] <admrl_> sorry if i cant help
[02:46] <C-O-L-T> admrl_: no problem, i just want a powerfull video and picture edit tool
[02:47] <C-O-L-T> admrl_: these programs are not easy to use, that is why I don't like Linux
[02:48] <jpatrick> C-O-L-T: Krita
[02:48] <C-O-L-T> jpatrick: I can make with Krite slideshows with music and than to write into mpeg format or dvd????
[02:49] <jpatrick> oh no
[02:50] <dandielionous> hello
[02:50] <dandielionous> I was wondering.
[02:50] <dandielionous> I tried cruising to etc/apt/sources
[02:50] <dandielionous> And I don't have a sources.
[02:50] <jpatrick> !sources
[02:50] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:50] <dandielionous> Aren't I supposed to have that?
[02:50] <Tm_T> sources.list
[02:50] <jpatrick> dandielionous: see above^
[02:51] <dark_suic> dandielionous, it's /etc/apt/sources.list, not sources
[02:51] <dandielionous> ty
[02:52] <dandielionous> You said it's sources.list is that a directory I have to manufacturer?
[02:52] <dandielionous> Okay, okay I'll go read the pages.
[02:52] <dandielionous> Thank-you for the links.
[02:52] <dark_suic> no it isn't
[02:52] <dark_suic> xD
[02:53] <dandielionous> :)
[02:53] <dandielionous> ty dark_suic
[02:53] <dark_suic> sources.list is the file (in text format) where repositories are written
[02:53] <dark_suic> and consulted by apt
[02:54] <dandielionous> Okay I looked in that directory.
[02:54] <dandielionous> I don't see a sources.list in that directory in text format.
[02:54] <dandielionous> I do see little papers there.
[02:54] <dandielionous> Maybe I need to create it.
[02:55] <dandielionous> I tried aptitude last night.
[02:55] <dandielionous> and apt-get update.
[02:55] <dandielionous> aptitude is confusing.
[02:55] <dandielionous> But I think I'll get it.
[02:56] <Tm_T> you don't have sources.list?
[02:56] <dandielionous> No I don't see a sources.list.
[02:56] <Tm_T> what you have been done to it?
[02:56] <dandielionous> If I did something to it I was unaware of it.
[02:56] <Tm_T> murderer!
[02:56] <Tm_T> ;--P
[02:56] <dandielionous> Supposedly this is the latest and kewlest thing I've got here.
[02:57] <admrl_> Tm_T: sudo less /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:57] <dandielionous> I should type that in?
[02:57] <Tm_T> admrl_: I have no problems with it, and no, I don't need sudo for that
[02:58] <aftertaf> dandielionous:  yes, type that...
[03:00] <dandielionous> Okay I typed that in.
[03:00] <dandielionous> And I pasted the result.
[03:00] <dandielionous> this is the link
[03:00] <dandielionous> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/491704
[03:00] <dandielionous> I hope I did that right.
[03:01] <dandielionous> People were telling me something about universe and multiverse last night.
[03:02] <dandielionous> Is that something I'm supposed to have too?
[03:02] <dandielionous> Is it connected to the sources.list?
[03:02] <dark_suic> well
[03:02] <mcscruff> do a sudo apt-get update
[03:02] <dark_suic> if you open your sources.list
[03:02] <mcscruff> then u'll know
[03:02] <dark_suic> you will get some normal lines and some lines that start with # <---- this are commented lines
[03:02] <dandielionous> Okay I did a sudo apt-get update last night.
[03:02] <dandielionous> twice.
[03:03] <dark_suic> commented lines are ignored, and uncommented are used by apt to find programs
[03:03] <dandielionous> Okay.
[03:03] <dark_suic> dandielionous, each time you make changes into sources.list you should do sudo apt-get update
[03:03] <aftertaf> and if you want more stuff, enable universe....
[03:03] <aftertaf> !tell  dandielionous about repositories
[03:03] <dandielionous> If I don't have a sources list how can I make changes to it?
[03:03] <dark_suic> you do have it :P
[03:04] <aftertaf> dandielionous:  you do have one, its the file you pasted just now ;)
[03:04] <mcscruff> what you just pasted was a sources list
[03:04] <aftertaf> lol :)
[03:04] <dark_suic> :)
[03:04] <dandielionous> oh
[03:04] <dandielionous> lol
[03:04] <aftertaf> hehe
[03:04] <mcscruff> we were all knew once, dont worry
[03:05] <dark_suic> that's it :)
[03:05] <dandielionous> ty for understanding
[03:05] <mcscruff> i just had a go at ReactOS
[03:05] <dark_suic> if at least other newbies that came here were half polite as you are... xD
[03:06] <mcscruff> its gonna be my perfect kubuntu partner
[03:06] <aftertaf> totally dark_suic :)
[03:06] <dark_suic> :P
[03:06] <mcscruff> i wasnt bad, honest :)
[03:06] <dark_suic> dandielionous, now
[03:06] <dark_suic> in the file you pasted
[03:06] <mcscruff> bbl
[03:07] <dark_suic> you see lines 17-18, 2 commented lines that are like #deb http://address breezy universe?
[03:07] <dandielionous> ty for saying I'm polite dark_suic
[03:07] <dark_suic> try to remove the # before the deb, and add at the end of the line (leaving a blank space after universe, no comma) multiverse
[03:08] <dandielionous> Okay let me look at what you are talking about in lines 17-18
[03:08] <seicherlbob> hi everybody! I'd like to connect a second monitor to my laptop - well, i did - but kubuntu won't recognize anything. why?
[03:09] <aftertaf> seicherlbob:  you need to add it in xorg.conf, but i dont know how myself ;)
[03:10] <seicherlbob> aftertaf: well, that's more than i know. anybody else got some info?
[03:11] <seicherlbob> oh! i should have swapped source!
[03:11] <seicherlbob> i got a signal but it's... weird
[03:11] <aftertaf> hehe :)
[03:11] <dandielionous> Okay I don't think I pasted all the lines.
[03:11] <aftertaf> you could always try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg    seicherlbob
[03:11] <dandielionous> I think I missed some.
[03:12] <dandielionous> I enlarged my terminal window.
[03:12] <dandielionous> I'm going to repaste in the paste site one moment.
[03:13] <dandielionous> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/491719
[03:14] <dandielionous> Now I have up to 39 lines.
[03:14] <seicherlbob> hmm.... the thing is that its only mirroring.
[03:14] <dandielionous> I see what you're saying about uncommenting.
[03:14] <seicherlbob> and its.... flickering
[03:15] <crown> DocTomoe: when you saw my example text, you saw all character? there was no 'box' ?
[03:16] <Bernard1> Bonsoir tlm :-)
[03:17] <dandielionous> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[03:17] <dandielionous> bash: deb: command not found
[03:18] <dandielionous> Is my program missing something that I can't do certain bash commands?
[03:19] <jpatrick> dandielionous: that's suppose to go into your /etc/apt/soucres.list
[03:20] <dandielionous> I'm sorry jpatrick what is supposed to go into my sources.list?
[03:20] <jpatrick> that line
[03:20] <apachelogger> dandielionous: that's not a command
[03:20] <dandielionous> Am I supposed to paste that there?
[03:20] <aftertaf> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[03:20] <aftertaf> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[03:20] <aftertaf> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[03:21] <apachelogger> dandielionous: yo
[03:21] <aftertaf> my sources.list....
[03:21] <dandielionous> yes apachelogger .
[03:21] <apachelogger> aftertaf: very short :P
[03:21] <aftertaf> :)
[03:22] <dandielionous> Okay index of unbuntu.
[03:22] <dandielionous> mmmmm that looks interesting.
[03:22] <dandielionous> Wonder what I do with that...
[03:23] <dandielionous> <<<scratches head
[03:23] <dandielionous> lol
[03:26] <seicherlbob> ok, how do i restart the xserver after reconfiguring?
[03:27] <jpatrick> seicherlbob: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[03:27] <seicherlbob> jpatrick: ?
[03:27] <jpatrick> do that
[03:28] <dark_suic> seicherlbob, end current session, then press ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:29] <vytautas> howto search for a file with apt-file?
[03:36] <dystopianray> hello, does anyone know if kopete has any patches applied for kubuntu releases?
[03:36] <dystopianray> or where i might possibly find info on patches that have been applied to kubuntu apps for releases?
[03:37] <apachelogger> dystopianray: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdenetwork/kdenetwork_3.4.3-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
[03:37] <apachelogger> just take a look at the diff ;-)
[03:37] <apachelogger> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/kde/kopete if youwant the whole source
[03:37] <dystopianray> kde 3.5 i'm interested in
[03:37] <apachelogger> dystopianray: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/kde/kopete
[03:38] <dystopianray> thankyou
[03:38] <admrl_> apachelogger: would that be stable..?
[03:38] <apachelogger> admrl_: what would be stable?
[03:40] <admrl_> using the dapper package
[03:40] <dystopianray> i don't plan on using it, i'm having an issue with another distro that doesn't seem to apply for kubuntu, so i want to find out waht, if anything has been changed to fix that
[03:41] <seicherlbob> ok, so much about simple restarting the server....
[03:41] <apachelogger> admrl_: as stable as the breezy ones
[03:41] <admrl_> and it wouldnt come up with any problems in apt
[03:42] <seicherlbob> ok, now the screen is not flickering and moving anymore. but it's still only mirroring. how can i tell the second display to stop mirroring?
[03:48] <tdmg> ummmmm.......can someone tell me how to take a screenshot of my desktop on Kubuntu?
[03:48] <admrl_> you can always us the ksnapshot command
[03:48] <admrl_> i think thats it
[03:48] <tdmg> where is that command?
[03:48] <admrl_> if not you can use import image.jpg
[03:49] <admrl_> you use it from a command line
[03:49] <admrl_> you can also hit your kmenu
[03:49] <admrl_> and click run command
[03:49] <tdmg> just type ksnapshot?
[03:49] <admrl_> yep
[03:49] <admrl_> in the run command window
[03:49] <admrl_> or in konsole
[03:49] <tdmg> cool
[03:49] <admrl_> yep tellme if it works
[03:51] <admrl_> tdmg and if you go into the kcontrol center you can make printscreen a shortcut for running the command ksnapshot
[03:55] <_patrick> could someone explain why firefox isnt in the kubuntu sources thing in adept but mozilla and thunderbird is. ive just installed and i want to get firefox.
[03:55] <geirhard> hello
[03:56] <tudor_b> _patrick: sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:56] <admrl_> he said it isnt in sources tudor_b
[03:56] <geirhard> could somebody tell me how can I make my kubuntu mount a partition every time it starts?
[03:57] <admrl_> geirhard: youd need to put the partition in fstab
[03:57] <geirhard> okay thanks
[03:57] <geirhard> xD
[03:57] <dandielionous> Okay do any of you know how I can find the system, administration menu?
[03:57] <admrl_> dandielionous thats in gnome not kde
[03:57] <tudor_b> geirhard: or K Menu > System Settings > Disks & Filesystems
[03:58] <dandielionous> ty admrl
[03:58] <dandielionous> Is there something like it in kde?
[03:58] <admrl_> dandielionous: you can do most anything important in kcontrol center
[03:58] <admrl_> the command is kcontrol
[03:58] <dandielionous> ty admrl
[03:58] <admrl_> you can run it as root with gksudo kcontrol
[03:58] <admrl_> :D
[03:59] <_patrick> no its not in the normal packages list thing. is firefox only in universal?
[03:59] <dark_suic> i'm having problems with lame... it doesn't extract an mp3 from audiocd:/ kioslave nor kaudiocreator
[03:59] <admrl_> dandielionous your opening it from the konsole right..?
[03:59] <dandielionous> :)
[03:59] <admrl_> alrighty
[03:59] <admrl_> everything should be good
[03:59] <dandielionous> Yes I'm trying to open it from konsole.
[03:59] <dark_suic> kaudiocreator gives only the error that "progressive metal isn't recognised as a tag," or something like that
[04:00] <dark_suic> any guess?
[04:00] <dandielionous> I'm trying to follow the instructions for adding repositories.
[04:00] <dandielionous> I'm trying to add multiverse, universe and back something.
[04:00] <admrl_> dandielionous the easiest way to do that i think is in synaptic
[04:00] <admrl_> which is a gnome program like adept
[04:00] <admrl_> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[04:00] <admrl_> thats the easiest way
[04:01] <admrl_> if you know the command line you can also go to /etc/apt/
[04:01] <admrl_> and sudo nano sources.list
[04:01] <admrl_> uncomment the multiverse and universe and ctrl x to save
[04:01] <admrl_> i think thats the fastest way
[04:01] <geirhard> mm please could you tell me what have i got to put in fstab "<options>" to make the partition can be written and read by everyone?
[04:02] <dandielionous> When you say uncomment do I just highlight and delete the comment line?
[04:02] <admrl_> NO no
[04:02] <admrl_> lol
[04:02] <admrl_> i mean take out the #
[04:02] <admrl_> at the front of it
[04:02] <dandielionous> Then run it again?
[04:03] <dandielionous> I was hoping to stick with kde things.
[04:03] <dandielionous> I already added gaim.
[04:03] <dandielionous> which is gnome I believe.
[04:03] <geirhard>  please could you tell me what have i got to put in fstab "<options>" to make the partition can be written and read by everyone? pleaaseeeee
[04:03] <admrl_> lol yes it runs off of gtk librarys i belive
[04:03] <dandielionous> If gnome programs are better why am I using kubuntu.
[04:04] <admrl_> i prefer kde to gnome
[04:04] <dandielionous> I like kde.
[04:04] <admrl_> it has better programs
[04:04] <admrl_> but i also prefer the gnome package manager to kde's
[04:04] <dandielionous> I can understand some programs are better.
[04:05] <dandielionous> gaim is for me because it lets me enter the chat rooms.
[04:05] <crown> under kde, could i create a 'drawer' to kde's panel? like in gnome's panel?
[04:05] <dandielionous> konversation doesn't.
[04:05] <admrl_> crown ive seen it on kde-look.org
[04:05] <admrl_> dandielionous: have you tried kopete..?
[04:05] <dandielionous> kopete?
[04:05] <admrl_> yes
[04:06] <admrl_> its like gaim
[04:06] <admrl_> give it a try its a native kde app
[04:06] <dandielionous> Okay I tried that but it doesn't let me enter the chat rooms.
[04:06] <dandielionous> Just instant message.
[04:06] <dandielionous> I'm really trying to stick with kde things.
[04:06] <admrl_> well i guess your stuck with gaim than lol
[04:07] <seicherlbob> can anybody lend me a helping hand with setting up my display-settings??? PLZ
[04:07] <dandielionous> :)
[04:07] <dandielionous> I can't find a switch or button on the kopete that let's you enter chat rooms.
[04:07] <dandielionous> I can't understand why that is.
[04:07] <admrl_> did you search google
[04:07] <dandielionous> Not for that.
[04:07] <admrl_> seicherlbob whats wrong with them..?
[04:08] <dandielionous> What I'm realllllllllly trying to do right now.
[04:08] <dandielionous> Is add kmymoney.
[04:08] <seicherlbob> well, the second monitor is only mirroring. i'd like to have 2 screens, not a mirrored one
[04:08] <dandielionous> In the mean time back at the ranch.
[04:08] <dandielionous> I guess I have to solve this multiverse and universe problem before I can add kymymoney2.
[04:08] <dandielionous> Which I downloaded and can't compile.
[04:09] <admrl_> what error did you get
[04:09] <dandielionous> So I guess I have to learn apt-get.
[04:09] <seicherlbob> admrl_: who?
[04:09] <dandielionous> I'm trying to remember the error.
[04:09] <dandielionous> I was doing it last night.
[04:09] <admrl_> dandielionous: apt-get is AMAZINGLY easy but synaptic is easier
[04:10] <dandielionous> Easy is what I need.
[04:10] <dandielionous> Let me try to add synaptic.
[04:10] <dandielionous> If it's like everything else I've tried to do I feel a little discouraged.
[04:10] <admrl_> seicherlbob: i dont know much about 2 monitors in linux i only use one
[04:10] <stefano> i once used two
[04:10] <admrl_> dandielionous: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[04:10] <stefano> was keeeewl
[04:10] <dandielionous> okay
[04:10] <seicherlbob> stefano: can you help me?
[04:11] <stefano> maybe
[04:11] <seicherlbob> stefano: ok. the kde-desktop config only shows one screen.
[04:11] <dandielionous> Okay it's working.
[04:11] <dandielionous> :)
[04:11] <seicherlbob> stefano: so the second monitor is only mirroring
[04:11] <dandielionous> Adding synaptic.
[04:11] <admrl_> :D
[04:11] <stefano> just like it is supposed to seicherlbob
[04:12] <stefano> do you use an nVidia card?
[04:12] <seicherlbob> stefano: its a radeon. (laptop)
[04:12] <dandielionous> Hey it even added it to my applications menu. :)
[04:12] <dandielionous> I'm done.
[04:12] <stefano> oh well, them i'm sorry. the nvidia drivers are offering a kewl program to set this stuff up
[04:12] <dandielionous> Something worked!!!!!! YOooooo HOoooo.
[04:12] <dandielionous> lol
[04:13] <stefano> dude, install the commercial radeon drivers drom ate
[04:13] <stefano> ati
[04:13] <seicherlbob> well... maybe i shoul try and google for ati-software then
[04:13] <stefano> they should bring a such tool too
[04:13] <stefano> yes right
[04:13] <_patrick> if i add the universal repository and then remove them after i have installed the programs i want will they remove themselves from the package manager, i killed my last kubuntu by doing a totally update from universal and rather stupidly turing off halfway through!
[04:13] <dark_suic> dandielionous, that is how apt-get works :)
[04:13] <seicherlbob> its my first time with linux as client so i'm a bit ... confused
[04:13] <stefano> dont use the drivers x brought you, they are crap =)
[04:13] <aftertaf> laters all... hometime
[04:13] <seicherlbob> :) how can i install new drivers? never did this before
[04:14] <dandielionous> I would like it always to be that easy.
[04:14] <stefano> seicherlbob: dont worry, its gonna work =)
[04:14] <dark_suic> well, in fact, after installation, it SHOULD be that easy :P
[04:14] <dandielionous> I have been working for 4 days on adding kmymoney and still haven't got it done.
[04:14] <aftertaf> dandielionous:  it will be one day ;)
[04:14] <dark_suic> :P
[04:14] <admrl_> dandielionous: is synaptic working for you
[04:14] <dark_suic> well, now in synaptic
[04:14] <dandielionous> ty for the encouragement.
[04:14] <dark_suic> let's do something
[04:14] <dandielionous> synaptic is in and up.
[04:14] <dark_suic> open it and go preferences-repositories
[04:14] <seicherlbob> ok... i'll come back after i crashed the machine stefano ;) see you in a while
[04:14] <dandielionous> Now do I have to add multiverse, universe etc.
[04:15] <dark_suic> now let's add some more packages to the system :)
[04:15] <dark_suic> probably, dandielionous , but this way is easier :)
[04:15] <dandielionous> Okay preferences-repositories going there.
[04:16] <stefano> hehe
[04:16] <dark_suic> there you will have some lines
[04:16] <dark_suic> now you need to add universe and multiverse, hang on a sec and i will tell you how
[04:16] <dandielionous> I can't click on anything.
[04:16] <dandielionous> trying to decide what is wrong.
[04:16] <dandielionous> I see that box but can't click on anything.
[04:16] <dandielionous> One moment.
[04:16] <admrl_> dandielionous did you run it as root
[04:17] <admrl_> sudo synaptic
[04:17] <dandielionous> I have a introduction screen up.
[04:17] <dandielionous> I'm reading it I think that is the problem I can't click on anythng.
[04:17] <dark_suic> yep, if you don't close intro screen you won't click anything :)
[04:18] <admrl_> lol oh ya
[04:18] <admrl_> haha
[04:18] <dandielionous> sorry
[04:18] <dandielionous> <<<<blushes
[04:18] <dark_suic> nevermind :)
[04:18] <dandielionous> Okay now I can click on things.
[04:19] <dandielionous> Now You said preferences ->repositories going there.
[04:19] <dark_suic> :)
[04:19] <dark_suic> configuration -> repositories
[04:19] <dark_suic> yeah
[04:19] <dark_suic> now, click on "new"
[04:20] <dandielionous> Okay I found settings->preferences or repositories which one?
[04:20] <dark_suic> repositories
[04:20] <dandielionous> okay.
[04:20] <dark_suic> that is
[04:20] <dark_suic> 1 sc
[04:20] <seicherlbob> stefano:    1. ATI Proprietary Linux x86 Display Drivers for XFREE86 / X. Org Version 8.20.8 ??
[04:21] <dark_suic> back
[04:21] <dark_suic> :)
[04:21] <dark_suic> dandielionous,
[04:21] <dark_suic> click on new
[04:21] <dandielionous> phone ringing
[04:21] <stefano> seicherlbob: yes
[04:21] <dandielionous> brb
[04:21] <stefano> download em
[04:22] <stefano> als long as you got this version of x
[04:22] <stefano> or you upgrade x too
[04:23] <seicherlbob> i use kubuntu. thats why i'm here
[04:23] <_patrick> founrd firefox. should i get he kubuntu-security repositories?
[04:29] <seicherlbob> how can i check my x version?
[04:30] <stefano> i dont know =)
[04:30] <stefano> look it up in adept i guess
[04:30] <seicherlbob> lol
[04:30] <stefano> open adept and find x.org, there is sould be mentioned
[04:31] <kkathman> seicherlbob: dpkg -l | grep xorg
[04:31] <seicherlbob> 6.8.2
[04:31] <seicherlbob> got it
[04:32] <seicherlbob> adept was a good idea.
[04:34] <stefano> yippie
[04:40] <seicherlbob> ok, starting the installation...
[04:45] <slow-motion> hallo
[04:47] <xwolf-> herzlich willkommen, slow-motion
[04:47] <slow-motion> hi xwolf-
[04:56] <NPC_Crys> Yo peeps.
[04:56] <NPC_Crys> Who knows about the sound?
[04:57] <NPC_Crys> I need to know which sound system to use.
[04:57] <NPC_Crys> It looks like alsa and oss will take, but not esd.
[04:59] <ganymed> hallo.
[04:59] <stefano> NPC_Crys: use Alsa
[04:59] <stefano> oss is obsolete
[05:00] <NPC_Crys> Why's that?
[05:00] <ganymed> i cannot mount cd/dvd as normal user anymore... i don't see any content. if i umount and mount it as root again, i can access it as normal user
[05:00] <ganymed> any ideas?
[05:00] <NPC_Crys> Try mounting it as root.
[05:00] <NPC_Crys> Is it the default user or a new one?
[05:01] <NPC_Crys> Could be you forgot to give your user mounting rights.
[05:03] <NPC_Crys> ganymede?
[05:03] <ganymed> default one... the first i have added. it used to work out of the box...
[05:04] <NPC_Crys> darn. Then I'm out of ideas.
[05:04] <NPC_Crys> I'm new.
[05:04] <ganymed> i haven't changed it so far... the user is member of the cdrom group
[05:04] <ganymed> do you know what user rights i have to add... which group and so on?
[05:06] <NPC_Crys> I can tell you what rights my user has.
[05:06] <kkathman> NPC_Crys: how did you mount your cd/dvd ??
[05:07] <NPC_Crys> When I put in a cd, it shows up on the desktop.
[05:07] <kkathman> ok, then what
[05:07] <jpatrick> kkathman: morning
[05:07] <kkathman> morning jpatrick :)
[05:08] <NPC_Crys> Then I look through it. End of story. Automounts.
[05:10] <ganymed> sorry, short problem...
[05:10] <kkathman> ok...and so what exactly is happening - error message?
[05:11] <ganymed> NPC_Crys: exactly, but for some strange reason it automounts the cd, but doesn't show it. then i umount as root, mount as root again and it shows me the content of the cd...
[05:12] <NPC_Crys> Sounds like a nautilus problem.
[05:12] <NPC_Crys> or whatever kde uses.
[05:12] <kkathman> what happens when you attempt to play the CD through, say, kaffeine ?