[06:46] <dholbach> good morning
[07:38] <mihir_> dholbach: Good morning :)
[07:44] <dholbach> hi mihir_
[07:46] <AskUbuntu> Where's My App? | http://askubuntu.com/q/350197
[08:25] <mihir_> dholbach:  hey :)
[08:44] <dpm> hi Mirv, can this bug be marked as Fix Released? -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtmultimedia-opensource-src/+bug/1202996
[08:49] <Mirv> dpm: no, because we postponed Qt 5.1.1 to the opening of t-series and the fix is only there
[08:51] <dpm> ok, thanks Mirv
[09:38] <WebbyIT> hi dpm :)
[09:39] <dpm> ciao WebbyIT :)
[09:39] <WebbyIT> dpm, how are you? :)
[09:41] <dpm> fine, and you? I've seen you and mihir_ teaming up on the latest fixes for calculator, good work :)
[09:42] <WebbyIT> dpm, thanks :) Yes, we have almost finished... Shall you ask to design team to give us an input about bug #1226738 please? :)
[09:44]  * dpm looks at the bug
[09:44] <mihir_> dpm:  Thank you :)
[09:45] <mihir_> we are almost finish for our first release I guess with all the critical bugs
[09:51] <oSoMoN> gusch: hey, could you please review https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/assets-license/+merge/187524 ?
[10:06] <gusch> oSoMoN: ok
[10:06] <oSoMoN> gusch: thanks
[10:08] <gusch> oSoMoN: the webbrowser-app.svg is not included in by that, but I guess it should
[10:09] <oSoMoN> gusch: ah, good point, I’ll add it, thanks for pointing it out
[10:14] <oSoMoN> gusch: fixed
[10:14] <gusch> oSoMoN: approved
[10:15] <oSoMoN> thanks!
[10:27] <mihir_> oSoMoN: hey !!
[10:27] <oSoMoN> mihir_: hey
[10:29] <mihir_> oSoMoN: I have been trying to re-design Event detailsview in calendar application , but I am confused with slide no 8 & 14
[10:29] <mihir_> do you have any idea ??
[10:30] <oSoMoN> mihir_: do you mean you’re confused because the screens on those slides are slightly different?
[10:32] <mihir_> oSoMoN: yup it is differnet with content too , like slide no #8 contains header date and no #14 doesn't cotnain any header date
[10:33] <oSoMoN> mihir_: if in doubt I would advise to use slide 8, as slide 14 is about what to put in the toolbar, so the content there might be outdated
[10:33] <mihir_> so currently I have considered only no 8  as I had talk with Kunal
[10:34] <mihir_> oSoMoN: Okay and what about colors ?? a question at my end is why calendar view & event details view has different color ?
[10:45] <oSoMoN> mihir__: no idea, that’s a very good question, let me see if I can grab someone from the design team to answer it
[10:47] <oSoMoN> mihir__: can’t seem to find the one in charge of calendar-app now
[10:50] <mihir__> oSoMoN: Yeah okay :) no issues
[10:51] <mihir__> I guess today is calendar's meeting
[10:51] <oSoMoN> mihir__: yes, feel free to join the hangout to discuss this with the design team
[10:52] <oSoMoN> mihir__: I can invite you to the hangout, what’s your google id?
[10:56] <mihir__> oSoMoN: it's<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:56] <mihir__> but i must be comuting that time from my office to home but still I can try to join
[10:57] <oSoMoN> mihir__: the design hangout is at 14:30 UTC
[10:57] <oSoMoN> mihir__: I’ve invited you, and if you can’t make it don’t worry, I’ll forward your question to the designers
[10:58] <mihir__> oSoMoN: can you also invite me with the actual developement meeting ? that would be great..
[10:59] <mihir__> oSoMoN: and thanks for the help !!!
[11:00] <oSoMoN> mihir__: done
[11:01] <mihir__> oSoMoN:  thanks I'll try to join for sure but if I can't I'll ping you thank you :)
[11:11] <dpm> WebbyIT, would you be interested in working on this bug? -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1231136
[11:31] <WebbyIT> dpm sure, this afternoon I'll look to it
[11:34] <dpm> WebbyIT, awesome, thanks! I think on the calendar side of things it is just making sure that the app can take arguments, and once that's done, have some logic to decide which view (day, week, year) to open according to the arguments. The music app guys added arguments support recently, so you can probably steal their code :)
[11:34] <dpm> cd ..
[11:35] <dpm> argh, wrong window :)
[11:37] <mihir> dpm:  why don't we have any directory structure in calendar application ??
[11:47] <WebbyIT> dpm got it, in three hours I hope to be at computer and fix it
[11:51] <dpm> WebbyIT, awesome, thanks!
[11:52] <dpm> mihir, probably because the initial developers didn't find it necessary. I myself prefer folders, but I think at this point in the release we should probably focus on bug fixing and finishing off the features
[11:54] <mihir> dpm:  got it :)
[12:00] <wellsb> Updates to bible app.  https://plus.google.com/110587021591787005452/posts/KRsxjMNpHPg
[12:00] <wellsb> Should be available in click store soon.  If there are any issues with the package, let me know
[12:03] <popey> wellsb: you can check the package youself now! :D
[12:04] <popey> beuno: maybe we should add a link to the click reviewers tools in the submission form ☻
[12:05] <beuno> popey, in a couple of weeks, you'll get an email on submission with the report
[12:06] <popey> nice
[12:13] <wellsb> popey: Yep, checking those tools out now!  Pretty awesome
[12:35] <WebbyIT> dpm, I'm lookin to bug 1231136, but I'm not sure on which argument we want.
[12:35] <WebbyIT> dpm, IMO we need --new-event, -start-time and -end-time
[12:35] <WebbyIT> dpm, if new-event is called it prepars a new event with starttime, if set, and end-time, if set
[12:36] <WebbyIT> dpm, else, if only starttime is set, we go to the related day
[12:36] <WebbyIT> dpm, what do you think?
[12:36] <dpm> WebbyIT, I think that makes sense, yes
[12:37] <dpm> we'll also have to think about what tedg was saying, in the sense that depending on the values of start-time and end-time, we might need to decide which views to open (week, month, etc.)
[12:39] <WebbyIT> dpm, yes. sure
[12:57] <puntoclassic> hello
[12:59] <puntoclassic> I need help in the development of the core app can not understand a thing , could you help me ?
[13:01] <nik90> puntoclassic: go ahead and ask your question
[13:01] <nik90> puntoclassic: if anybody knows, they will answer
[13:02] <WebbyIT> dpm, do you know where can I find docs about Argument? It seems it doesn't accept name with '-'...
[13:02] <nik90> WebbyIT: API docs right at the bottom
[13:02] <nik90> WebbyIT: in qtcreator
[13:03]  * WebbyIT go to hide
[13:04] <puntoclassic> thanks
[13:07] <dpm> WebbyIT, yeah, here too http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/devel/ubuntu-13.10/qml/ui-toolkit/overview-ubuntu-sdk.html#parsing-command-line-arguments
[13:07] <dpm> WebbyIT, you can have a look at how the music guys did it here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1226164
[13:08] <WebbyIT> dpm, they don't use '-' (indent), I want to write --new-event ;)
[13:10] <dpm> WebbyIT, ah, I see what you mean. It might be worth filing a bug in the SDK, but for the moment, I'd use 'newevent'
[13:10] <WebbyIT> dpm, ok thanks :)
[13:33] <Corwin> hello! for a while now, i'm trying to build an Ubuntu package for PPA upload, the package is web application (php-based). most packaging guides out there are about compiled software, so i wonder if there's a guide for packaging things which don't require compilation? google's being surprisingly helpless at that.
[13:36] <popey> Corwin: maybe take a look at an existing php app like phpmyadmin?
[13:38] <Corwin> well, i was able to create .deb package manually, that was quite straightforward. dealing with bzr, dh-make and such are not, unfortunately.
[13:54] <AskUbuntu> Guidelines for packaging web app | http://askubuntu.com/q/350343
[14:00] <Corwin> yeah that one ^ is mine :)
[14:04] <dpm> WebbyIT, are you around and have got time for the calendar app meeting at #ubuntu-touch-meeting?
[14:30] <oSoMoN> bfiller: I cleared my cache and now the override for nytimes works, it gets the mobile version
[14:34] <bfiller> oSoMoN: cool
[15:49] <dpm> dholbach, do you have an idea of what this error coming from a package on the core apps PPA could be? It seems the amd64 and i386 builds succeeded, but the armhf one had a chroot problem? -> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6159236/
[15:50] <dholbach> dpm, do you have a button to retry the build?
[15:50] <dholbach> dpm, looks like an intermittent problem to me
[15:50] <dpm> yeah, let me try to rebuild, then
[15:50] <dholbach> but maybe the guys in #launchpad know more
[16:09] <Chocanto> Kaleo: ping
[16:09] <Kaleo> Chocanto: pong
[16:10] <Chocanto> Kaleo: Maybe you seen it in the #ubuntu-touch chan, I need to ask something about the Arguments API
[16:10] <Chocanto> Kaleo: I use it for Docviewer, but I have a little problem by using it with qmlscene
[16:11] <Chocanto> Kaleo: Currently I use "defaultArgument" to obtain the path passed in argument, but to make it run, apparently, we have to pass the argument before the .qml file, like this : qmlscene path/of/the/file ubuntu-docviewer-app.qml
[16:12] <Chocanto> Kaleo: Is it me who don't use Arguments correctly, or is it "normal" ?
[16:13] <dpm> balloons, do you know what might be making Jenkins unhappy on https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/ubuntu-rssreader-app/enable-translations/+merge/187690 ? These are no code changes, but I did change some paths and filenames, so I'm not sure it affects the tests
[16:15] <balloons> dpm, heh, it's this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rssreader-app/+bug/1231137
[16:15] <dpm> balloons, oh, I thought that test wasn't actually running yet
[16:15] <Kaleo> Chocanto: hang on, thinking
[16:16] <Chocanto> Kaleo: Ok :)
[16:16] <balloons> dpm, it's the 'next' button for adding a feed.. it's going to break ;-)
[16:16] <balloons> but yea I guess something underlying changed, not the app, and that broke it
[16:16] <Kaleo> Chocanto: right, it works like that indeed
[16:17] <Kaleo> Chocanto: but you can access any value of the default argument
[16:17] <Kaleo> Chocanto: using http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/devel/ubuntu-13.10/qml/ui-toolkit/qml-ubuntu-components0-argument.html#at-method
[16:17] <balloons> dpm, so can we escalate that bug as an sdk regression?
[16:17] <dpm> balloons, ok, I had thought that that test was one that was WIP, but apparently it was one that was in place and something changed in the app/SDK that caused it to fail
[16:17] <Kaleo> Chocanto: args.defaultArgument.at(0)
[16:17] <Kaleo> Chocanto: args.defaultArgument.at(1)
[16:17] <Chocanto> Kaleo: Yes... but no ^^
[16:18] <Chocanto> Kaleo: I tried it
[16:18] <dpm> balloons, if it can be reproduced with the snippet from Joey in his last comment, I guess yes
[16:18] <Kaleo> Chocanto: you mean at(1) does not work?
[16:18] <Chocanto> Kaleo: If I put a filename after the .qml file... qmlscene seam to not work
[16:18] <Kaleo> Chocanto: ah
[16:18] <Chocanto> *seems
[16:18] <Kaleo> Chocanto: right, that's probably a limitation of qmlscene itself
[16:19] <Kaleo> Chocanto: that definitely warrants a bug report
[16:19] <Kaleo> Chocanto: is it blocking you?
[16:19] <Chocanto> Kaleo: Not really, but it make confused all other people who want to work on docviewer
[16:19] <Chocanto> Kaleo: as I'm the only one to use the defaultArgument
[16:20] <Kaleo> Chocanto: I understand
[16:20] <Chocanto> Kaleo: And I can just imagine in few days when people will try the docviewer...
[16:20] <Kaleo> Chocanto: so, I would recoommend to try and document the proper usage of the docviewer well
[16:21] <Kaleo> Chocanto: until there is a fix
[16:22] <Chocanto> Kaleo: It's already done :) But I nevertheless want to have your confirmation
[16:22] <Chocanto> Kaleo: I can fill a bug report if you want..
[16:23] <Kaleo> Chocanto: that would be great
[16:23] <Chocanto> Kaleo: Ok, thank you ! :)
[17:36] <WebbyIT> popey, dpm, I think we have to update debian/changelog for calculator, is stopped to last May O.o
[18:01] <nik90> WebbyIT: you can do it yourself just "dch" inside the calculator-folder
[18:16] <daker> nik90: anyidea if the fix for the Picker has landed ?
[18:31] <AndreBrasil> Hello, i'm trying to create a new "Simple Touch UI" project but the Ubuntu SDK dont have the option to create this. Someone have this problem to?
[20:06] <nik90> daker: it hasn't landed yet
[20:06] <nik90> daker: it has been pushed to trunk, but an update is yet to be pushed out
[20:06] <daker> ok
[20:06] <nik90> daker: btw, I just added a temp solution to the geoIP problem
[20:07] <nik90> daker: if the city returned by geoIP is None, it will ask the user to set the location manually.
[20:07] <daker> nik90: ya why not
[20:07] <nik90> daker: this will be the solution until I test the qtlocation (with gps) support. Hopefully this weekend
[20:08] <nik90> daker: if you can easily test it, would you mind?
[20:08] <daker> nik90: ya
[20:08] <nik90> daker: I just need a confirmation if the logic works fine.
[20:08] <daker> in trunk ?
[20:08] <nik90> daker: as usual you need to clear the local db
[20:08] <nik90> daker: no let me grab the link for you
[20:08] <nik90> daker: https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/sync-clock-backend
[20:08] <daker> nik90: and the db is in ?
[20:09] <nik90> daker: on your desktop it should be in ~/.local/share/Qt Project/QML/Databases/..
[20:09] <nik90> daker: ~/.local/share/Qt Project/QML/OfflineStorage/Databases/..
[20:10] <nik90> daker: delete the database files in that folder. Note that it will also remove the datbase of other touch app you may have used
[20:12] <bioevolgenec> Hello! I have a packaging related question. I have written a Common Lisp  application using SBCL. So, my application uses a customized version of  the SBCL core, including any extra libraries etc. When I try to package  my application, though, the custom sbcl binary gets automatically  exchanged for the default sbcl binary, available in the repos. How can I  prevent that from happening?
[20:12] <daker> nik90: http://i.imgur.com/IZc2njG.png
[20:13] <nik90> daker: yup thats what it should do :)
[20:13] <nik90> daker: thnx
[20:13] <daker> :)
[20:51] <nik90> Kaleo: do you know if it is possible to increase the height of ListItem.Base?
[20:51] <seb128> nik90, you can define the height
[20:51] <nik90> Kaleo: I am adding 3 labels inside the ListItem.Base, one below the other and the text seems to overflow its height
[20:52] <nik90> seb128: even if it is delegate: ListItem.Base {} ?
[20:52] <seb128> sure
[20:52] <nik90> seb128: ah thnx
[20:52] <seb128> yw


 Lol
 Ok
 Idc, it's all cool <3
 I have the Mastodon and twitter
[01:02] <valorie> excellent!
[01:02] <valorie> i haz watered plants and dinner eaten
[01:04] <valorie> ahoneybun: would you mind doing that ubuntu site review of the beta?
[01:04] <valorie> on mastodon
 Done
[01:08] <valorie> danke!
[01:08] <valorie> boosted, retweeted, etc.
 Danke?
[01:10] <valorie> oops, that is thanks in german
 Ahh
[01:11] <valorie> bitte is please, but oddly bitte bitte is you're welcome
[01:11] <valorie> which makes no sense to me
[01:11] <valorie> I've been told to just think of them as "words of politeness"
[01:11] <valorie> lol
 Pleased to please you?
 Aka your welcome?
[01:12] <valorie> maybe
[01:12] <valorie> many of our sayings morphed so much through the years they make no logical sense either
[01:12] <valorie> I suppose all languages are like that
 Our language's biggest problem is the use of ies and s
 Babies
 Learning when you do what
[01:15] <valorie> our language's problem is that the rules are so seldom followed
[01:15] <valorie> everything is an exception
[01:16] <valorie> because it's cobbled together from so many languages
 It's like our population at this point, a mixing pot
[01:16] <valorie> making plurals is an excellent example
[01:17] <valorie> yep
 Good morning friends, I am delighted to join the council, very exciting. It's going to be lots of fun working with you all 😍
 Mornig Rick. Same here. Looking forward to it.
 Congratulations to @ahoneybun and @acheronuk too, Looking forward to working with you guys.
 Same here @Sick_Rimmit and @acheronuk
 Hope all is OK with you @ahoneybun
 Just going to reboot my machine back in a few minutes
 😃
 Let's just say I can't wait till I get back to 8 hours of sleep again
 Right now  I'm on 4-5 need more...
 you on curfew? plenty on snoozing time if so, surely?
 I'm not but I don't have power for AC
 And I can't sleep when it's hot like this
 ah. now I see
 community council vote cast 😀
 For the UCC
 yes
 Yep try not to be bias lol
 I was 100% fair to all the people I wanted to win. :P
 XD
 @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie "Ubunhtu Community Council 2017 election"
 we are not the only ones who 'typo' on those polls. 😛
[13:07] <clivejo> mine wasnt a typo, I thought thats how it was spelt
[13:07]  * yofel was fair to all people he knows (which is about half of that list..) ^^
 I'm not sure who I talked to yofel about the server
 There should be an email about the ticket
[13:17] <yofel> hmkay, I'm not sure how much of that I got, but I'll dig a bit deeper then. You get your life sorted first, this can wait a bit.
 We'll see how much I have left if I get a UCC spot lol
 For right now we have the bytemark server too tho
[14:20] <clivejo> don't think I know any on that list
[14:20] <clivejo> what strange names
[14:21] <clivejo> Lapchynksi is that Polish?
[14:25] <acheronuk> do KC get ops on our channels? or is that separate?
[14:25] <yofel> you do, but I think we need to set that by hand
[14:25] <clivejo> good lord, he already trying to take over!
[14:25] <yofel> same goes for the ACL for this chan now that you mention it
[14:25] <yofel> how did that work again...
[14:27] <acheronuk> right. I can see I'm on the LP teams. so it's not automatic once on those
[14:30] <acheronuk> clivejo: haha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYvAYwpUDv8
[14:33] <yofel> acheronuk: your perms here are now set
[14:33] <yofel> what's rick's nick again?
[14:37] <acheronuk> https://launchpad.net/~rick-timmis
[14:37] <acheronuk> Sick_Rimmit on irc.freenode.net
[14:38] <yofel> your permissions are now also set for #k, #k-d and #k-o
[14:38] <acheronuk> are those used through chanserv?
 Any idea about permissions in here?
[14:39] <yofel> same as in the others
[14:39] <yofel> acheronuk: yes, chanserv
[14:39] <acheronuk> ok. wiki pages are not out of date then :)
[14:40] <yofel> you can list the flags yourself and now also edit them for other people
[14:40] <yofel> ok, Rick's flags are now set as well
[14:40] <acheronuk> how do I list?
[14:41] <yofel>  msg chanserv flags #kubuntu-council
[14:42] <yofel> the (kcouncil) part is the flag template, see chanserv template
 Lovely to see these things being set so early one!
[14:42] <acheronuk> yofel: hmmm. that doesn't work yet for me
[14:43] <yofel> weird
[14:43] <yofel> [ChanServ] 5     acheronuk              +Aefiortv            (kcouncil) (#kubuntu-council) [modified 13m 11s ago, on Sep 12 14:28:31 2017]
 (Photo, 449x91) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/CmuyI586/file_3222.jpg
 just echo's that back at me
[14:47] <yofel> maybe it needs an explicit /msg o.O
[14:47] <acheronuk> I did '/msg chanserv flags #kubuntu-council'
[14:50] <yofel> can you run any command on chanserv? like help?
[14:50] <acheronuk> nope
[14:51] <yofel> does case matter maybe? 'ChanServ'
[14:52] <acheronuk> I tried that :/
[14:53] <yofel> then I'm out of ideas, sorry :/
[14:53] <acheronuk> I disconnect and reconnect. you never know
[14:53] <acheronuk> *I'll
[14:54] <clivejo> there was someone who was good at setting that all up
 He's good at IRC stuff
 Ask Unit193
[15:00] <yofel> technically both of you now have permission to idle around in #ubuntu-ops if you're interested. Just ask someone to add you to the ACL there when you join so you don't get booted out immediately
[15:00] <acheronuk> at the moment seems little point
[15:59] <acheronuk> ok. sorted now. hexchat was hiding the message from me :P
 Weird
 because I am messaging chanserv, but it's not actualy in these channels, so hexchat uses some weird algorithm to decide what tab/windo to send them to!
 but you can override that, as I have now :)
[16:36] <acheronuk> I wish I could get on better with konversation :/
 Konversation works fine here with my znc setuo
 *setup
 I'm going to look at irccloud later on once I get internet back
 I may look at building the new konversation expermental branch in KCI
 Nice @acheronuk
[20:12] <valorie> we need to get this chan logged
[20:12] <valorie> and our telegram bot acked by the irc council
[20:12] <valorie> I think I wrote an email to them once but never followed up
[20:13] <valorie> I mean we warn/brag that it's logged
[20:13] <valorie> but there is no logbot
 Right
[20:21] <clivejo> what is ubuntulog3 then?
 (Photo, 608x643) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/It0bdSY1/file_3224.jpg @shitpost
 Offtopic
 @clivejo, An infiltrator?
[21:43] <valorie> hmmmmm, wxl, tsimonq2, looking at nzoueidi - testimononials from philw but also gsilvapt
[21:43] <valorie> and part of linux padawans?
[21:44] <tsimonq2> valorie: nzoueidi is a really really awesome guy
[21:44] <wxl> yep
[21:44] <valorie> voting is taking awhile!
[21:44] <valorie> ok
[21:44] <tsimonq2> Took me a minute to vote, because I feel like I'm involved enough in the community that if I don't know they, I won't vote them for CC
[21:45] <valorie> mmm, the community is pretty big
[21:45] <valorie> I've not used the forums for instance, for years
[21:45] <valorie> don't know the translators at all
[21:45] <valorie> or the snappy people
[21:45] <valorie> which is why I read the wiki pages for all the folks I didn't know
[21:56] <valorie> the least informative was #12
[21:56] <valorie> :-)
[21:56] <valorie> but heck, they stepped up, and I Will Not
[21:56] <valorie> so they got a vot
[21:56] <valorie> e
 Damn I was in the running for KC and UCC lol
[22:04] <valorie> you are gonna be busy
[22:04] <tsimonq2> Busier than me? :P
[22:14] <valorie> more meetings, maybe!
 If I win anyway
[22:15] <valorie> I didn't look at your page again, since I know ya
 Ahh
 I'm sure I'll have my meeting