[07:41] <sunnypies> jussi01: when i got the flash it installed the jdk 6
[07:41] <bense> :(
[07:41] <sunnypies> jussi01: so i think its good. this is weird
[07:42] <jussi01> bense: however it sounds like your synaptic is not running as root
[07:42] <pag> bense, did you launch the synaptic with the gksudo  (or even sudo for thta matter) ?
[07:42] <jussi01> sunnypies: just to make sure, try sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[07:42] <sunnypies> k
[07:43] <sunnypies> jussi01: already has newest version =(
[07:44] <jussi01> sunnypies: I just checked it is flash. weird
[07:44] <bense> jussi01 and pag, thank you.   i've been out of the scene for TOO long it seems :P
[07:44] <jussi01> bense: :)
[07:45] <sunnypies> jussi01: goto disney.com and tell me if you see all the flash there
[07:46] <jussi01> sunnypies: I allready did. it seems all flash to me
[07:46] <mumificpjetao> oj boris =D sunarodnjae =D
[07:46] <boris_> ej majstore
[07:47] <ulf_> hello, do you know, if multiple distros can share one boot partition, does that make sense?
[07:47] <boris_> ej, danas citav dan oko ovog kubantea
[07:47] <mumificpjetao> tek instalira ili?
[07:47] <mumificpjetao> kubuntu btw =)
[07:47] <boris_> ma e
[07:47] <Daisuke-Ido> !en
[07:47] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[07:48] <boris_> pa nikako da mi proradi neka mp3ica
[07:48] <boris_> navika na win
[07:48] <jhutchins> ulf_: I don't think that's practical, although anything's possible.
[07:48] <Daisuke-Ido> boris_: see above
[07:48] <Daisuke-Ido> english only
[07:48] <sunnypies> jussi01: im jealous
[07:48] <zabadapp> boris_: was it for Amarok you wanted mp3-support?
[07:48] <mumificpjetao> boris, #ubuntu-hr
[07:48] <mumificpjetao> click there
[07:48] <boris_> yes
[07:49] <jrc> I need to get a wireless adapter for my Kubuntu machine. Any suggestions of ones that work well with kubuntu?
[07:50] <boris_> ne smijem pricati na naski :)
[07:50] <ulf_> i dont know for sure, if it is possible, maybe there a files that would be overwritten by installing a distro... grub.conf can be manually altered to my needs, but i dont know the other files at all
[07:51] <sunnypies> jussi01: is there a kubuntu site that gets you started with installing java,flash?  so I can make sure I didn't miss anything?
[07:51] <zabadapp> boris_: in kubuntu start Add/Remove Programs from the K-menu ... make sure both checkboxes in upper right corner are checked and search for amarok ... select to install "Xine extra plugins"
[07:52] <jussi01> sunnypies: you havent missed anything.,
[07:52] <jussi01> its weird
[07:52] <jussi01> !flash
[07:52] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:52] <jussi01> !java
[07:52] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[07:55] <ulf_> !boot
[07:55] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[07:55] <ulf_> !grub
[07:55] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:56] <ulf_> !dualboot
[07:56] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[07:56] <jussi01> !botabuse | ulf_
[07:56] <ubotu> ulf_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[07:57] <TFrog> has anyone loaded up the 8.39.4 ATI drivers yet?
[07:57] <arun> anyone know of any good ftp client for kde?
[07:57] <boris_> txn
[07:57] <boris_> evala
[07:57] <jussi01> !ftp
[07:57] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[07:57] <jussi01> arun konq?
[07:57] <zabadapp> arun: konqueror supports ftp://
[07:58] <ulf_> Understood, jussi ;)
[07:58] <arun> yeah, apart from konqueror
[07:58] <jussi01> ulf_: :)
[07:59] <jussi01> arun: !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber
[07:59] <jussi01> !Kasablanca
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kasablanca - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <jhutchins> ftp works great from the console
[07:59] <arun> how is kbear
[07:59] <jussi01> never used it
[07:59] <mumificpjetao> !KFTPGrabber
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kftpgrabber - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <arun> have you used kasablanca?
[08:00] <jussi01> !info Kasablanca
[08:00] <ubotu> kasablanca: fast and free ftp client for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 165 kB, installed size 628 kB
[08:00] <TFrog> i guess no one has loaded up the latest ATI drivers :(
[08:03] <sbucat> SORRy kubuntu+kaffeine+beryl i can t see so goog as vlc player movie
[08:03] <sbucat> *good
[08:03] <arun> sbucat: yeah, i had the same problem
[08:03] <arun> if you try to make it full screen or resize the window, it crashes
[08:03] <Daisuke-Ido> change what vlc's using.
[08:04] <Daisuke-Ido> probably X11 right now, try some of the other options
[08:04] <sbucat> mmm i have selected x11 output in vlc but in kaffeine?
[08:04] <sbucat> vlc works great
[08:04] <sbucat> with beryl
[08:04] <sbucat> but kaffeine no lol
[08:05] <arun> x11 output sucks
[08:05] <arun> and beryl+video will only work with x11 on kde
[08:05] <arun> kftpgrabber works great
[08:07] <tzanger> I figured out the kopete mem/cpu hogging trigger
[08:07] <tzanger> kopete hits 100% memory/cpu (and races with kontact to OOM kill if kontact is running) whenever a standard KDE file dialog in ANY KDE application is opened
[08:08] <tzanger> completely repeatable
[08:08] <dikkelu> hello
[08:08] <dikkelu> I have php compiled by myself but now apache doesn't know how to use the php
[08:08] <dikkelu> how can i tell apache to use the compiled php
[08:08] <jussi01> tzanger: have you filed a bug?
[08:08] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> tzanger: That's not a good thing. Did you check bugs.kde.org to see it it's been filed yet?
[08:09] <jussi01> or launchpad
[08:09] <arun> kftpgrabber is great, actually
[08:09] <tzanger> jussi01: yes I did
[08:09] <tzanger> WhtWolfTeraDyne: I've filed on ubunutu's tracker, kde guys say they've never heard of it
[08:09] <jussi01> tzanger: ok. well you need to wait until someone fixes it then.
[08:10] <tzanger> it look sthough that I need to have an ongoing conversation (msn only perhaps)
[08:10] <jussi01> tzanger: it might not be actually kopete, but a plugin
[08:10] <tzanger> it's jussi01 yeah I'm thinking msn
[08:11] <jussi01> tzanger: since youve done what you can for now, please leave the support channel for others. ;)
[08:12] <jhutchins> tzanger: pidgin's looking pretty good.
[08:12] <tzanger> jussi01: eh?
[08:13] <kaminix> The filename doesn't influense the md5sum output, does it?
[08:13] <tzanger> kaminix: nope
[08:14] <jussi01> tzanger: you need to be talking to the devs about your bug.
[08:14] <tzanger> I know, I've got the bug filed, now I'm just trying to fine-tune the trigger to make sure it's easily reproducible
[08:14] <tzanger> the KDE guys claim 3.5.6 "pristine" doesn't have it, or at least they haven't seen it
[08:15] <kaminix> Can a md5sum really change this much from just moving the file to another drive? (it became visually corrupt at two places):
[08:15] <kaminix> 008023f222d77735457431c8719e3df7  /media/sda5/Torrents/[JR-F]  W - Ai No Imi Wo Oshiete [DVD] [BE7B2543] .avi
[08:15] <kaminix> 745640af6c6e84bb4451a2b3fd701351  /media/disk/Video/Promotional Videos/W - Ai No Imi Wo Oshiete.xvid
[08:15] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> tzanger: Did you try asking in #kopete ?
[08:15] <tzanger> kaminix: changing one bit will change the hash SIGNIFICANTLY
[08:15] <jussi01> tzanger: all I was trying to say, dont clog up support with it ;) Jump into #kopete or something.
[08:15] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> !pastebin | kaminix
[08:15] <ubotu> kaminix: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:15] <tzanger> ah
[08:15] <dikkelu> doesn't anybody know?
[08:15] <kaminix> Pastebin for two lines?
[08:16] <jussi01> dikkelu: it appears not.
[08:16] <jussi01> dikkelu: try in a little while
[08:16] <dikkelu> :(
[08:16] <dikkelu> k
[08:17] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> kaminix: Meh. I've seen people go all out on others for "flooding" with two lines it the past. It never hurts to bee safe.
[08:17] <dikkelu> !nl | dikkelu
[08:18] <kaminix> Won't people trying to help be annoyed by opening their browsers for two lines of text?
[08:18] <tzanger> kaminix: it's a fine line
[08:18] <tzanger> if the lines look like what you had, possibly yes
[08:18] <tzanger> if they don't scroll and look nasty, no...  but again that's very subjective
[08:18] <zabadapp> dikkelu: did you add LoadModule mod_php in apache?
[08:19] <kaminix> Well, I'll keep it in mind anyway :)
[08:21] <NickPresta> dikkelu, ask your question again...
[08:22] <dikkelu> nope zabadapp
[08:22] <dikkelu> that is what I need i think
[08:23] <dikkelu> that LoadModule does that come in http.conf????
[08:23] <dikkelu> NickPresta: i want to tell apache to use my self compiled php
[08:24] <zabadapp> dikkelu: what apache version? in 1.3 yes ... i 2.x it depends (i'm no apache-master) but it can be in many different configuration files
[08:24] <dikkelu> apache2 installed with aptitude
[08:24] <NickPresta> dikkelu, did you use the `--with-apxs2` flag when compiling apache?
[08:24] <dikkelu> i didn't compiled apache
[08:24] <NickPresta> dikkelu, sorry, when compiling PHP
[08:24] <dikkelu> nope
[08:25] <mguezuraga> HI! I've previously upgrade kde adding deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-357 feisty main to sources.list. How can I downgrade to 3.5.6?
[08:25] <dikkelu> i just compiled --with-mysql
[08:25] <m0ns00n> Anyone know how to make a MIDI keyboard work with linux in Kubuntu? I have a keyboard connected to the gameport of my SBLive card
[08:25] <dikkelu> if that would work I would figure out what those other options were for
[08:25] <NickPresta> dikkelu, you need the `--with-apxs2` flag for Apache 2 support
[08:26] <dikkelu> k i will compile again
[08:26] <zabadapp> dikkelu: hmm, isn't there also a apxs?-command for installing a module into apache as well?? NickPresta seems to know his stuff :)
[08:26] <NickPresta> dikkelu, wait one minute. I will post my ./configure line.
[08:26] <dikkelu> k thnx
[08:26] <dikkelu> do i have to decompile the previously compiled php?
[08:27] <NickPresta> dikkelu, no
[08:28] <dikkelu> so when i compile and install again it will just override my old compiled php?
[08:29] <NickPresta> dikkelu, if you're compiling it to the same location, yeah. http://pastebin.ca/634864
[08:30] <bense> is a ssh server installed and running by default?
[08:30] <NickPresta> dikkelu, that will give you mysql, mysqli, soap, pear, cURL, gd imaging, zip, soap and some other stuff. check what you need.
[08:31] <NickPresta> bense, no, AFAIK
[08:31] <dikkelu> NickPresta: I can't see you 're compile line?
[08:31] <bense> guess i'll have to do that then :P
[08:31] <arun> kftpgrabber is really cool
[08:31] <NickPresta> bense, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#SSH_Server
[08:31] <NickPresta> =)
[08:31] <arun> works great
[08:31] <NickPresta> dikkelu, what do you mean?
[08:31] <dikkelu> oh sorry
[08:31] <bense> thanks NickPresta
[08:32] <dikkelu> didn't notice the link
[08:32] <dikkelu> my bad
[08:32] <NickPresta> dikkelu, it's cool.
[08:32] <dikkelu> what is cURL?
[08:33] <dikkelu> ok, now a very stupid question!!! :)
[08:33] <jussi01> !info curl
[08:33] <ubotu> curl: Get a file from an HTTP, HTTPS, FTP or GOPHER server. In component main, is optional. Version 7.15.5-1ubuntu2.1 (feisty), package size 159 kB, installed size 256 kB
[08:34] <dikkelu> I have untar the php in /usr/local. then i compiled it without the prefix
[08:34] <dikkelu> Where did I compiled the php ??? in that same dir?
[08:35] <alex_> hola
[08:35] <NickPresta> dikkelu, it should either be in /usr/local/bin or /usr/bin
[08:36] <NickPresta> dikkelu, personally, i like compiling php to /opt/php and then symlinking /opt/php/bin/php to /usr/bin/php
[08:36] <alex_> hola
[08:36] <alex_> hola
[08:36] <dikkelu> i copied the tar file php-5.2.3.tar.gz into /usr/local
[08:37] <dikkelu> and i unpacked it in /usr/local
[08:37] <NickPresta> dikkelu, you don't have to copy it to the directory you're going to put it in. you use the --prefix flag for that
[08:37] <mumificirani> !bin
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <dikkelu> ah k
[08:38] <dikkelu> but if I didn't used that prefix, then it is installed in /usr/bin?? or not?
[08:38] <NickPresta> dikkelu, do a `./configure --help` it should show the default directory
[08:38] <dikkelu> k
[08:40] <dikkelu> NickPresta: where can i find the path to apxs2?
[08:41] <NickPresta> dikkelu, `locate apxs2`
[08:41] <dikkelu> it doesn't find anything
[08:42] <NickPresta> dikkelu, sorry, `locate apxs`
[08:42] <NickPresta> dikkelu, you want the bin/apxs
[08:42] <dikkelu> it doesn't find anything
[08:43] <NickPresta> dikkelu, you're sure you have apache installed?
[08:43] <dikkelu> pffff, it's harder then i imagined
[08:43] <dikkelu> I can surf to localhost/apache-default
[08:43] <dikkelu> and i get the page 'It Works'
[08:43] <NickPresta> dikkelu, check here: /usr/local/apache/bin/apxs
[08:43] <NickPresta> dikkelu, it isn't normally this hard when you compile apache, php and mysql. you know where everything is and how it's setup ;)
[08:44] <dikkelu> k
[08:44] <dikkelu> i'm gonna compile everything myself
[08:44] <dikkelu> and start over
[08:44] <dikkelu> because now i don't know shit :p
[08:44] <dikkelu> thnx for the help, And I will be back :)
[08:44] <NickPresta> dikkelu, okay. it isn't too hard. I've been doing it for years. just remember that you will need some -dev headers to compile apache and PHP sometimes.
[08:45] <dikkelu> yep that i know
[08:45] <NickPresta> okay. I hope all goes well. Someone will be here to help if you have trouble
[08:46] <dikkelu> k thnx for the help allready
[08:48] <dikkelu> one more question, should I compile it all into /usr/local??
[08:48] <dikkelu> or /usr/local/bin
[08:48] <dikkelu> ?
[08:49] <NickPresta> dikkelu, I would compile it to /opt and then system link the binary file to /usr/bin.
[08:49] <dikkelu> and the reason for that is?
[08:50] <NickPresta> well, traditionally, /opt is for optional packages and optional applications that you compile yourself. I find it easier to keep track of and if you ever decide to install apache/php/mysql from the repo, they won't conflict with each other
[08:50] <NickPresta> it makes little difference where you put it, as long as it's somewhere
[08:50] <fatima> do you speak spanish???
[08:51] <NickPresta> !es | fatima
[08:51] <ubotu> fatima: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:53] <dikkelu> k thnx NickPresta.
[08:53] <NickPresta> no problem
[08:53] <dikkelu> another question comes to mind. How can i remove the php i compiled?
[08:54] <megametres> dikkelu : go in the php directory you compiled and do : make uninstall
[08:54] <NickPresta> dikkelu, usually you would do a make uninstall
[08:54] <NickPresta> assuming the makefile has the option to uninstall
[08:54] <dikkelu> ah k so easy
[08:54] <dikkelu> I'm just a noob at unix but I'm learning
[08:54] <dikkelu> :)
[08:55] <NickPresta> dikkelu, that's good. It's much better than complaining that the command line is too hard
[08:55] <NickPresta> =D
[08:55] <dikkelu> make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop. What is this?
[08:56] <megametres> that there is no uninstall set for these sources files... (you are the the right directory ?)
[08:56] <savetheWorld> dikkelu: the makefile that was invoked has no target named "uninstall" defined.
[08:56] <genii> dikkelu: dikkeludikkelu  If the  "make uninstall" is not available in the makefile i find "make dist" or "make distclean" usually does a removal of all that stuff it would normally install anyhow
[08:56] <dikkelu> yep i'm in the right directory
[08:57] <genii> bah stupid tab typo if that makes sense
[08:58] <dikkelu> make distclean did something
[08:58] <savetheWorld> Anyone know where I can find some hints on setting up a locally caching Bind (dns server) on Kubuntu?
[08:58] <NickPresta> savetheWorld, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_Setup_BIND_DNS_Server
[08:59] <genii> dikkelu: Good. It removes any files that it normally would have installed
[08:59] <savetheWorld> NickPresta: Bless you sir!
[08:59] <dikkelu> so now my system is clean again
[09:00] <dikkelu> k now i'm gonna start again
[09:04] <zabadapp> dikkelu: why not simply install php via package manager?
[09:05] <dikkelu> because in kubuntu there is only php 5.2.1. I need php 5.2.3 because it fixes some bugs that i have with custom session handling
[09:05] <dikkelu> and i want to learn how to do it :p
[09:08] <zabadapp> dikkelu: ok
[09:08] <dikkelu> I'm off now cya all
[09:08] <waylandbill_> dikkelu: learning how make and the automake tools work would give you the greatest understanding
[09:08] <waylandbill_> oops. he's gone.
[09:09] <Dusk_> where is the "system sources" on kubuntu??
[09:09] <Dusk_> sorry not system sources
[09:09] <Dusk_> "software sources"
[09:10] <NickPresta> Dusk_, are you talking about /etc/apt/sources.list?
[09:10] <Dusk_> NickPresta, isn't there any graphical gui like on ubuntu??
[09:10] <Dusk_> as "software sources"
[09:11] <waylandbill_> Dusk_: inside Adept there is
[09:11] <Dusk_> waylandbill_, thanks a lot..with the same name??
[09:11] <NickPresta> Dusk_, yeah, you can use Adept, but it seems superfluous to start a GUI and such just to edit and update a sources.list
[09:12] <Dusk_> i'm asking for a friend who doesn't know english
[09:12] <Dusk_> so thanks a lot
[09:12] <waylandbill_> no. you should find it easily under the menu as there's not a lot of menu items.
[09:13] <waylandbill_> NickPresta: true, unless you don't know that the gui edits the sources.list to begin with.
[09:13] <NickPresta> waylandbill_, I know, I was just making a point. Most people only know of a GUI to do things.
[09:14] <Apollodoros> hi folks!
[09:14] <AgarFu> hi all, I'm havin a strange problem with feisty, I've do some investigatinons and seems to be a reproductible bug. It's related with console fonts, I can't see characters such as
[09:14] <AgarFu> any body can help me?
[09:15] <Apollodoros> Is Kubuntu on DVD worth the transfer time left?
[09:15] <waylandbill_> NickPresta: right. and most people knowing a little about apt know about sources.list even if just a reference in the man page. :-)
[09:15] <AgarFu> I'm spanish, all feisty that I've test are buggy, both installed and running in live mode
[09:15] <waylandbill_> Apollodoros: it doesn't give you extra packages. It gives Desktop and Alternate installs on the same disk.
[09:16] <AgarFu> I think that problem is related with console-setup
[09:16] <Apollodoros> really?
[09:16] <AgarFu> any body can help me please?
[09:17] <waylandbill_> Apollodoros: it seems to be geared more towards installing on multiple systems if you ask me.
[09:19] <zabadapp> AgarFu: what do you get instead of  ? And do you mean the ctrl-alt-F1 console, and not a terminal window?
[09:19] <Apollodoros> They wrote there are full Main and Restricted sections on DVD
[09:20] <AgarFu> yes in console, not in a window
[09:20] <AgarFu> in a window every thing is ok
[09:20] <AgarFu> I hav wreid characters, like hearts, lines, and things like that
[09:21] <AgarFu> if you set LANG=es_ES and run man
[09:21] <AgarFu> for instance you'll see some strange characters
[09:22] <AgarFu> I'm asking all my friends running feisty to try and all of them have the same problem
[09:23] <zabadapp> AgarFu: I have no idea where to change key-map and/or character encoding for the console (but basically I'm never there and I know the US-keyboard layout pretty well even if I use a swedish keyboard) ... someone educate us!! :)
[09:23] <AgarFu> them problem is very strange, if I do /etc/init.d/console-setup restart
[09:24] <AgarFu> without change any config file
[09:24] <AgarFu> the problem seems to be solved
[09:24] <vzduch> !enter | AgarFu
[09:24] <ubotu> AgarFu: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:24] <AgarFu> the character  looks great, but  are rendered as bold!!
[09:25] <AgarFu> I know, seems that I'm crazy, but I can make a photograph if you don't belive me
[09:27] <vzduch>   so far looks normal here
[09:28] <zabadapp> AgarFu: I believe you ... but looking into console-setup I see the use of "setupcon" ... setupcon --help show some flags like --save ... try playing with it?
[09:28] <AgarFu> yes, here, in X every thing works like a charm
[09:28] <vzduch> AgarFu: I have started my irssi on a VGA console.. no problem to be seen
[09:28] <vzduch> otoh, I don't use es_ES as a keymap ;)
[09:29] <AgarFu> vzduch: please, try to do in a console: "LANG=es_ES.UTF-8 man"
[09:29] <AgarFu> I'll try setupcon, let me see.
[09:29] <vzduch> AgarFu: man what? gimme a good example :)
[09:30] <zabadapp> AgarFu: it uses /etc/default/console-setup  ... has some intresting settings
[09:30] <AgarFu> any man, if you type just man
[09:30] <AgarFu> then man will ask you.. what man page do you wish? or something like this
[09:31] <AgarFu> in my case... Qu pgina de manual desea?
[09:31] <vzduch> AgarFu: tells me 'can't set the locale'
[09:32] <vzduch> plus 'What man page do you want to view' or something similar :)
[09:32] <AgarFu> may be you need to generate locale to set es_ES.UTF-8 I don't know
[09:33] <AgarFu> I'll try to boot qemu from a liveCD and make an screenshot
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> apropos <string> will search all the man pages for a command
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> apropos telnet
[09:35] <Admiral_Chicago> that returns three commands that use telnet or reference it
[09:39] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> What's that apt-* command to see what something recommends\depends on\ect...?
[09:39] <dazjorz> aptitude show iirc
[09:39] <dazjorz> `aptitude show`
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> apt-cache show <package>
[09:39] <AgarFu>  apt-cache show pacakge
[09:40] <dazjorz> oh.
[09:40] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Thanks everyone.
[09:40] <dazjorz> oh well
[09:40] <vzduch> AgarFu: apt-cache showpkg
[09:40] <vzduch> shows Depends and Reverse Depends
[09:41] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Ok. Anything that shows recommended packages?
[09:41] <AgarFu> apt-cache show <package>
[09:42] <AgarFu> if <package> recommends some other that information will be shown
[09:42] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> Ah, ok. I see it now. I scrolled past it. Thanks.
[09:42] <vzduch> Depends, Recommends, Suggests
[09:42] <vzduch> in that order
[09:44] <AgarFu> my qemu is booting .. but it's too slow, even with kqemu
[09:46] <mzanfardino> I'm looking for a KDE tools I've used in the past to capture screen shots.  This tool permits the selection of portions of the screen, not just the whole screen as with a print-screen.  Can anyone name the tool? (not a quiz, I just can't remember what it was called)
[09:47] <mallize> ksnapshot?
[09:47] <vzduch> mzanfardino: KSnapshot?
[09:47] <mzanfardino> nm - it's ksnapshot
[09:47] <mallize> i think we have a winner
[09:47] <mzanfardino> vzduch: that's the one.  I found I already had it installed.  Must have come with kdemultimedia or something.
[09:52] <colourtux> What language is this channel?/Was sprache hier sprechen wir?
[09:53] <Tm_T> colourtux: english
[09:53] <Tm_T> !de | colourtux
[09:53] <ubotu> colourtux: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:53] <colourtux> Ok. Thank you. I am fine with English.
[09:53] <vzduch> Tm_T: nevermind, this German shows room for improvement :D
[09:53] <colourtux> I am learning still.
[09:53] <Tm_T> heh
[09:54] <colourtux> Many Irc channels are in German so I go in asking that question....
[09:54] <Tm_T> vzduch: yeah I had hard time understand it but it looked german enough
[09:54] <vzduch> hrhr
[09:57] <colourtux> Has anyone been using the tribe version; how is it?
[09:58] <colourtux> ...
[09:58] <vzduch> colourtux: some ppl do, but the place to talk about it is #ubuntu+1
[09:59] <WhtWolfTeraDyne> colourtux: Might be better to ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> colourtux: running it now, its fairly stable for me
[09:59] <colourtux> darnit. So used to quakenet where no one cares. Thanks. Bye.
[09:59] <Admiral_Chicago> but that doesn't mean you should run it because it worksfor me :)
[10:05] <hasan> hi guys
[10:06] <hasan> i ve just issued a perl command to change all directory names to lowercase for a ntfs  mounted partition
[10:06] <hasan> now i cant change within directories ?
[10:06] <hasan> do i have to remount that directory so that new lowercase directory names would be active ?
[10:07] <venik> jhutchins: I loaded SANE myself from the repositories, but it did not see the UMAX uc1260 parallel scanner
[10:12] <acecase> hey
[10:13] <acecase> is there a dmesg type logging system for KDE? My windows KDE apps keep crashing "randomly" and I can't find anything that will help me to debug it
[10:14] <mauro__> ola ragazzi
[10:14] <acecase> the only one that I have managed to reproduce (kinda) is the System Settings window. If I leave it up for a while it will eventualy crash
[10:14] <zabadapp>  acecase: have you tried memtest?
[10:15] <acecase> zabadapp: I haven't :)
[10:15] <waylandbill> acecase: sounds like a hardware issue. Try testing memory first.
[10:15] <mauro__> hola
[10:15] <mauro__> italian
[10:15] <mauro__> ??
[10:15] <acecase> thanks. I'm installing memtester
[10:15] <waylandbill> !it
[10:15] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:16] <mauro__> k
[10:16] <waylandbill> acecase: the kubuntu cd has memtest boot option.
[10:16] <zabadapp> acecase: yeah, just boot the cd ^^^
[10:16] <acecase> I'm running installed to hd ubuntu 7.04 server and I installed kubuntu-desktop
[10:16] <acecase> so I just installed it :)
[10:17] <mauro__> ole.....
[10:17] <mauro__> ciao
[10:17] <waylandbill> acecase: I think grub puts boot option too
[10:17] <attunix> how do I mount my usb flash drive?
[10:17] <acecase> waylandbill: it does
[10:18] <waylandbill> excellent. :-)
[10:18] <zabadapp> waylandbill: you mean <mr.burns>excellent</mr.burns> ??
[10:18] <waylandbill> attunix: manually, you can find the device node in the dmesg output and use it as an arugment for the mount command... or look in /media and it should be there.
[10:19] <waylandbill> zabadapp: I like that. LOL!
[10:19] <attunix> waylandbill: because it recently stopped responding.
[10:20] <waylandbill> attunix: it should still give a device node in dmesg if it is functional and the scsi and usb layers are loaded.
[10:21] <NickPresta> Out of curiosity, how well support is the 8800 using the nvidia driver?
[10:21] <attunix> waylandbill: dmesg gives me a lOOOOOONNNGGG list
[10:22] <attunix> waylandbill:which one is the usb drive
[10:27] <word> what do phones format microsd cards as / what would be a compaitible filesystem that linux can read it as?
[10:28] <Admiral_Chicago> depends on the phone afaik, don't ask me, I'm no phone expert
[10:31] <zabadapp> word: isn't fat32 used for all cameras/mp3-players/cellphones ?
[10:32] <word> zabadapp: i thought so...i tried mounting it using "mount -t vfat /dev/sdc /media/usb" but i get a wrong fs type error :-/
[10:32] <word> zabadapp: looking in dmesg i see that kubuntu tried automounting it as 6 or 7 different file systems and none worked
[10:32] <tarbat> Hi
[10:33] <tarbat> I just installed ubuntu studio, my xp was hacked into, I must say I love it
[10:34] <tarbat> does this need virus protection
[10:35] <word> no
[10:35] <tarbat> great thanks
[10:35] <word> :)
[10:36] <word> zabadapp: i think i'm going to try to format it with mkdosfs..
[10:39] <word> yayz, that fixed it
[10:43] <zabadapp> word: nice
[10:51] <vonhalenbach> Someone japanese here?
[10:53] <word> !jp
[10:53] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp
[10:53] <vonhalenbach> good idea. thank you!
[10:53] <word> :)
[10:53] <randy> hey, Im haveing trouble with my headsets microphone.  Is there a certain way I have to setup kmix?
[10:54] <word> does kmix have it's input's volumes all the way up and is the right input selected in the last tab?
[10:55] <randy> Yea I think so, I have all of them all the way up, the MIC Led selected and the MIC selected in the drop down menu
[10:55] <hasan> what does fuseblk mean?
[11:00] <ubuntu__> Oi..
[11:00] <ubuntu__> Oi
[11:01] <ubuntu__> Alguem do Brazil?
[11:02] <vzduch> !br | ubuntu__
[11:02] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[11:03] <hasan> what does fuseblok mean ?
[11:04] <hasan> when i try to mount it says fuseblk instead of ntfs-3g
[11:08] <francisco> alguien me puede hechar una manito con mi camara
[11:09] <francisco> hola
[11:09] <francisco> alguien me puede ayudar a configurar mi camara
[11:09] <AgarFu> francisco, en espaol en #kubuntu-es
[11:10] <GynZi> hello
[11:10] <GynZi> could someone give me a hand with dual boot?
[11:11] <randy> install windows first then linux
[11:11] <GynZi> yes
[11:11] <randy> if you do linux then windows
[11:11] <randy> windows will override grub
[11:11] <GynZi> i installed windows first
[11:12] <GynZi> the problem is
[11:12] <GynZi> i'm trying to install kubuntu from the live cd, and it doesn't even ask about dual boot
[11:12] <rustalot> does the kubuntu kernel have the tickless thing enabled?
[11:12] <Prophezy> hi all
[11:12] <randy> you have to set it up yourself
[11:12] <hasan> hi guys
[11:12] <GynZi> ok
[11:12] <AgarFu> hi
[11:12] <randy> resize the partitions and stuff
[11:12] <hasan> how can i mount my drives using ntfs-3g ?
[11:12] <GynZi> why do i have to resize the partitions?
[11:12] <hasan> in my etc/fstab it's written ntfs-3g but when i issue mount command
[11:13] <AgarFu> if you are running vista, create partitions with vista tool, not kubuntu one
[11:13] <hasan> it says fuseblk what does that mean ?
[11:13] <Prophezy> i have a big problem ... with my adapt manager i got this message, when i tried to download an update to the pidgin
[11:13] <wib> hi, i have an ahteros driver installed but lsmod lists it but its not in iwconfig so i can't connect
[11:13] <GynZi> winxp
[11:14] <AgarFu> well, you won't have any problem installing kubuntu then, yust go ahead GynZi
[11:14] <vic> hi, does anybody know a nice texas hold em?
[11:14] <Prophezy> The ADP database could not be open
[11:14] <hasan> does anybody know about that problem ntfs-3gggg ???
[11:14] <GynZi> it's installed already
[11:14] <GynZi> but the dual boot just says that it can't find the partition
[11:14] <hasan> "/dev/sda5 on /media/win_d type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096)"
[11:14] <hasan> that's what i ve got from mount
[11:15] <vic> hi, is there an ubuntu game channel?
[11:15] <zabadapp> hasan: in the system menu you will have a "NTFS Configuration Tool" .. when I ran that, I could check which NTFS-disks I wanted to mount
[11:15] <hasan> in /etc/ftab its  written "/dev/sda5 /media/win_d ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0"
[11:15] <hasan> when i click on it nothing happens
[11:15] <vic> hello....  ???
[11:16] <hasan> from command line ntfs-config lets me chose options
[11:16] <hasan> i click on that tha wirtes in /etc/fstab the line aforementioned
[11:16] <hasan> but when i use mount command to view
[11:16] <hasan> it's fuseblk !!!
[11:16] <hasan> ??
[11:16] <hasan> why is that ?
[11:17] <randy> !repeat | hasan
[11:17] <SlimG> Is there a KDE alternative for Gnome's dia (Diagram editor)?
[11:17] <ubotu> hasan: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:18] <hasan> !patience|randy
[11:18] <ubotu> randy: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:18] <hasan> i just wnated to see what patience mean
[11:18] <runlevelten> SlimG: Yes. I forget what it's called, hang on
[11:18] <wib> ;)
[11:18] <hasan> nothing special
[11:19] <SlimG> runlevelten: Is it Kivio your thinking of?
[11:20] <runlevelten> kivio
[11:20] <runlevelten> heh, that'd be a yes then
[11:21] <SlimG> runlevelten: I just received the answer on another channel, but thanks for making an effort, I appreciate it
[11:22] <runlevelten> No ptobs.  Have you tried to reboot?
[11:25] <word> Prophezy: sudo killall adept_manager ?
[11:26] <word> Prophezy: you were trying to update pidgin from a tar whiel you had adept running or..?
[11:26] <Prophezy> Word yes sir ;)
[11:26] <Prophezy> tehn i got problem
[11:26] <Prophezy> btw how did you know that i install pidgin? :P
[11:27] <word> Prophezy: i read up to what you said earlier, press ctrl+esc and look for adept
[11:28] <Prophezy> hmmm... no process killed
[11:30] <jacques> hello here
[11:30] <jacques> I have some problem to get my wireless to work
[11:30] <hasan> back again
[11:30] <hasan> sorry i ve missed the message
[11:30] <Prophezy> Word it couldn find any adept in system guard
[11:31] <hasan> probably someone has written some suggestion for me
[11:31] <jacques> hi there
[11:31] <jacques> I am in Mali
[11:31] <ashlon> how do I disable my firewall in kubuntu anyone?
[11:31] <hasan> i ve tried to block out fuseblk line from /etc/mtab
[11:31] <jacques> can someone help me with my wireless
[11:31] <hasan> and addes ntfs-3g in etc/fstab and restarted but it does not work
[11:31] <hasan> unfortunately
[11:31] <word> Prophezy: i could list off a few other processes that might be doing it but restarting will work just as well
[11:32] <Prophezy> word i have already restarting the computer
[11:32] <Prophezy> still same
[11:33] <hasan> which file is used actually for mounting ?
[11:33] <hasan> mtab or fstab ??
[11:33] <Prophezy> and i haved tried  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade pkg --configure -a
[11:33] <ashlon> anyone know how to disable the firewall in kubuntu?
[11:33] <Prophezy> without results
[11:34] <word> no idea :-/
[11:34] <Prophezy> :'(
[11:35] <ashlon> does kubuntu have a firewall, if so where do i disable it?  anyone
[11:36] <ice9__> I don't think it does by default ashlon
[11:36] <vonhalenbach> normally no firewall is installed.
[11:37] <Tm_T> err, there is firewall by default
[11:37] <Prophezy> i got this when i try to kill it : E: Type 'http://vicox.net/ubuntu/pidgin_2.0.0beta7devel.vicox-1_i386.debhttp://vicox.net/ubuntu/pidgin_2.0.0beta7devel.vicox-1_i386.deb' is not known on line 40 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:37] <Tm_T> Prophezy: two rows runtogether
[11:37] <Tm_T> !firewall | ashlon
[11:37] <ubotu> ashlon: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[11:38] <ashlon> Tm_T: thanks
[11:38] <Prophezy> Tm_T : yes and how can i kill it?
[11:38] <Tm_T> ashlon: IIRC bydefault it blocks nothing
[11:38] <hasan> that's awkward i can delete files from ntfs mounted files system but i cant create ???
[11:38] <Tm_T> Prophezy: it's part of kernel
[11:39] <Prophezy> Tm_T means?
[11:39] <Prophezy> that i cant kill it?
[11:40] <Tm_T> Prophezy: means you don't need to kill it
[11:40] <Tm_T> Prophezy: just don't touch it, and it doesn't block a thing
[11:41] <Prophezy> Tm_T so how can i make the adept working again if i cant kill the update..
[11:41] <Tm_T> Prophezy: gah, sorry, now I lost myserlf, ignore what I just said
[11:41] <Prophezy> hihih ;)
[11:42] <Tm_T> Prophezy: edit that line from adept
[11:42] <Tm_T> Prophezy: so there's no two lines run together
[11:42] <Tm_T> !sources
[11:42] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:42] <Tm_T> hmh
[11:42] <Tm_T> anyway
[11:43] <zblach_> hi. i'm looking to play go. can someone suggest a nice KDE frontend for it?
[11:44] <rustalot> zblach_: try cgoban. not sure if it's KDE though.
[11:44] <Chousuke> on which server?
[11:44] <Chousuke> cgoban is GTK
[11:44] <rustalot> nvm then
[11:44] <Prophezy> Tm_T : the problem is i cant get into my adept so i can change the repo
[11:44] <zblach_> any server. i just want to get into the game again
[11:44] <Tm_T> Prophezy: hmm, then use some text editor, and edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:44] <zblach_> i remember once a great online client
[11:45] <rustalot> I installed Openareana, but when I launch it the screen goes black and then instead of seeing a splash screen it just goes back to my desktop
[11:45] <rustalot> err OpenArena
[11:45] <ADiCT3D> How can i get Kubuntu Feisty to recognize my USB Bluetooth Dongle? It does it when running the livecd but does not find it once installed.
[11:45] <Chousuke> zblach_: KGS is probably the best server for that, then, but it's not KDE (it's java)
[11:45] <zblach_> Chousuke: that's fine
[11:45] <ADiCT3D> !bluetooth
[11:45] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[11:45] <zblach_> thanks
[11:47] <Prophezy> Tm_T: what should i do with the text editor after i edit that?
[11:47] <Prophezy> ops shall
[11:47] <Tm_T> save it?
[11:47] <Prophezy> after that?
[11:47] <Tm_T> what adept says?
[11:49] <Tm_T> Prophezy: ok, I think I shouldgo, I'm getting too fuzzy, good luck with it ->
[11:49] <Prophezy> Tm_T : it says : The ADP Databse could not opended!
[11:49] <Prophezy> Tm_T : well thanks anyway for the help .. ;)
[11:53] <ADiCT3D> Can someone help me "find" my bluetooth dongle? It isnt being listed but it works with my keyboard.
[11:56] <K-Ryan> How can I find out my local ip?
[11:56] <[Apollo] -AFK> k-ryan: ifconfig
[11:56] <vzduch> from user account: /sbin/ifconfig
[11:56] <K-Ryan> Thank [Apollo] -AFK
[12:00] <zabadapp> lsusb ?
[12:02] <Apollodoros> hello oldboys!
[12:06] <rdvon> !wifi
[12:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:06] <runlevelten> Has anyone seen the old loki installer for call of duty and uo?
[12:07] <runlevelten> english version.
[12:12] <ubuntu> ttp://cahnna.c4.to/