[09:56] <manveru> it's all about opening a file in an editor and running two commands afterwards
[09:57] <kalenedrael> !tell bl3ssing -about w32codecs
[09:57] <kkathman> !info w32codecs
[09:57] <bl3ssing> I have the vlc v 8.0 ... where should I copy it ...?
[09:57] <kkathman> hmm ok...they dont have that
[09:57] <nalioth> !w32codecs
[09:57] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[09:57] <kkathman> thats it :)
[09:57] <kkathman> hehe
[09:57] <nalioth> w32codecs is not an official package
[09:58] <kkathman> evil hehe
[09:58] <kkathman> not official, but they do work ok
[09:58] <nalioth> the !info trigger only accesses official packages in the repos
[09:58] <kkathman> at least from my experience
[09:58] <bl3ssing> I have the vlc v 8.0 file already downloaded ... where should I copy it ...?
[09:59] <manveru> don't copy it
[09:59] <manveru> !vlc
[09:59] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[09:59] <manveru> you can install it the normal way
[09:59] <bl3ssing> what should I do than .. with this vlc?
[09:59] <manveru> now let me tell you what the normal way is
[09:59] <bl3ssing> like ... manveru? I'm just a newbie
[09:59] <bl3ssing> k
[09:59] <manveru> you come from windows - right?
[09:59] <bl3ssing> thanks.
[10:00] <bl3ssing> sure
[10:00] <bl3ssing> :-)
[10:00] <bl3ssing> and I hate it ... LOL
[10:00] <manveru> well, linux is the other way round
[10:00] <manveru> type [alt] +[f2]
[10:00] <manveru> and type 'adept'
[10:00] <bl3ssing> I got adept opened
[10:01] <manveru> this will give you a nice frontend for installing apps
[10:01] <bl3ssing> wow, cool ...
[10:01] <manveru> ok, but before you can use the full power of it, you have to do something
[10:01] <chaoticgeek> teach him vi
[10:01] <manveru> not nano?
[10:01] <manveru> ^^
[10:02] <manveru> i guess nano is a lot easier
[10:02] <bl3ssing> ok ... what should I do manveru ?
[10:02] <bl3ssing> what is nano?
[10:02] <chaoticgeek> lol, I was joking
[10:02] <manveru> type [alt] +[f2]  again
[10:02] <bl3ssing> i don't need a very easy program
[10:02] <chaoticgeek> vi is so confusing when you start out
[10:02] <chaoticgeek> but I like it now
[10:02] <manveru> and type 'konsole'
[10:02] <bl3ssing> actually I'm an pc engineer, but in windows, not in linux.
[10:02] <bl3ssing> ok
[10:02] <bl3ssing> and ... than?
[10:02] <manveru> now you're in the almighty console :)
[10:02] <bl3ssing> :-)
[10:02] <chaoticgeek> nano and vi are text editors, but listen to manveru
[10:02] <bl3ssing> lol manveru
[10:03] <manveru> type 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'
[10:03] <bl3ssing> done
[10:03] <bl3ssing> next ... manveru
[10:03] <bl3ssing> ?
[10:03] <manveru> and search for lines that start with '# deb' or '# deb-src'
[10:03] <chaoticgeek> lol all mighty, I still prefer the terminal to konsole
[10:03] <manveru> remove the comment in front of them
[10:03] <chaoticgeek> very old school
[10:04] <manveru> chaoticgeek: i use all kinds of them - but prefer zsh :)
[10:04] <chaoticgeek> ok well I have to go eat
[10:04] <manveru> bl3ssing: when you are done, type [ctrl] +[o]  to save the file and [ctrl] +[x]  to leave the editor
[10:04] <chaoticgeek> cya in abit guys
[10:04] <bl3ssing> there's no # deb ... only deb simple ... without any # in front.
[10:04] <manveru> bl3ssing: there are - further down
[10:05] <manveru> oh, missed one thing - the w32codecs
[10:05] <manveru> !w32codecs
[10:05] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[10:05] <manveru> now go to the end of the file
[10:05] <bl3ssing> nothing ... with # in front of deb ...
[10:06] <manveru> and add a line that goes like 'deb http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/ ./'
[10:06] <bl3ssing> done
[10:06] <bl3ssing> :-)
[10:06] <manveru> bl3ssing: if there are none, we might be happy - can you make sure there is a line that has universe in it?
[10:06] <nalioth> no no no
[10:06] <nalioth> that wont work
[10:06] <nalioth> gianarros is not a repe
[10:06] <manveru> not?
[10:06] <nalioth> not a repository
[10:06] <nalioth> it's a direct download
[10:06] <bl3ssing> really nalioth ?
[10:07] <nalioth> manveru: you are thinking of seveas
[10:07] <manveru> ah, yeah...
[10:07] <bl3ssing> so ... what am I going to do now? I've already deleted that line.
[10:07] <bl3ssing> any other one to be written?
[10:07] <bl3ssing> :-)
[10:07] <manveru> ok, the line goes like 'deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas all'
[10:08] <manveru> and the same line again, but with 'deb-src' in front
[10:09] <manveru> bl3ssing: but again - is there a line in it that has 'universe' somewhere?
[10:09] <nalioth> !sources
[10:09] <ubotu> A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) - Create your own sources.list at http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:09] <bl3ssing> there's a lots of them ... but not with # in front of deb.
[10:09] <manveru> (i used the last link)
[10:10] <manveru> aye, we are happy :)
[10:10] <manveru> ok, now save and close the editor
[10:11] <manveru> now switch to adept and hit the update-button on the upper left
[10:12] <manveru> when it has finished updating, type 'w32codecs' in the Quick Filter and now you should be able to install it
[10:12] <bl3ssing> manveru, do you mean Fetch updates?
[10:12] <manveru> exactly
[10:12] <bl3ssing> cool
[10:12] <bl3ssing> you're amazing ...
[10:13] <bl3ssing> hheehee
[10:13] <bl3ssing> still installing
[10:13] <bl3ssing> wow ...
[10:13] <bl3ssing> I didn't know this ...
[10:13] <bl3ssing> and today I've learned something.
[10:13] <manveru> you can install all kind of software using this
[10:13] <bl3ssing> thanks ... manveru! God richly bless you...
[10:13] <bl3ssing> great ... I didn't know it.
[10:14] <manveru> btw, this wasn't me, that is apt-gets power
[10:14] <nalioth> bl3ssing: you should learn something every day
[10:16] <manveru> i guess this won't be hard, now that he uses linux
[10:16] <manveru> (or she?)
[10:16] <nalioth> nope, a whole new universe has opened
[10:16] <martin> ^^
[10:16] <Guest1> alguem pode me dizer como instalar o plugin java no firefox para acessar sites de banco
[10:17] <nalioth> !es
[10:17] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:17] <nalioth> nosotros espanol is muy malo aqui
[10:18] <manveru> hmm, would rock if some bot analyzed the spoken text and finds out if it is english - otherwise points to the correct language-channel
[10:19] <manveru> well, if i think more about it... not soo good :)
[10:19] <bl3ssing> :-)
[10:20] <Guest1> alguem pode me dizer como instalar o plugin java no firefox para acessar sites de banco
[10:20] <chaoticgeek> hello all
[10:20] <chaoticgeek> I'm back
[10:20] <Guest1> alguem pode me dizer como instalar o plugin java no firefox para acessar sites de banco
[10:20] <chaoticgeek> wtf?
[10:20] <chaoticgeek> looks like french
[10:20] <chaoticgeek> c'est francais?
[10:21] <chaoticgeek> oui? non?
[10:21] <manveru> hmm, no
[10:21] <chaoticgeek> oh
[10:21] <chaoticgeek> well I gave it a shot
[10:21] <manveru> nalioth says it's spanish
[10:21] <bl3ssing> manveru,  i think that link has some pbs of downloading
[10:21] <chaoticgeek> oh
[10:21] <bl3ssing> :-(
[10:21] <manveru> or espaniol :)
[10:21] <manveru> bl3ssing: what does it say?
[10:23] <slow-motion> bbl
[10:23] <nalioth> Guest1: que idioma?
[10:24] <bl3ssing> there was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a mistake downloading some packages .....
[10:24] <bl3ssing> manveru, there was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a mistake downloading some packages .....
[10:24] <nalioth> Guest1: por portugues, vaya de el #ubuntu-pt o por espanol vaya de el #ubuntu-es
[10:24] <manveru> bl3ssing: ok, let's investigate - open konsole again
[10:24] <bl3ssing> manveru, how can I find such of websites ... where to download from them ... files through Adept?
[10:24] <bl3ssing> manveru, YES SIR! ;)
[10:24] <chaoticgeek> well if someone speaking french comes in here  I could tell them about the french channel
[10:25] <manveru> bl3ssing: lol :)
[10:25] <bl3ssing> done
[10:25] <manveru> bl3ssing: ok, close adept
[10:25] <chaoticgeek> manveru: you are starting an army now
[10:25] <manveru> bl3ssing: now we're going to the heart of kubuntu - that's apt-get
[10:25] <chaoticgeek> right now just one, but soon it will grow
[10:25] <manveru> bl3ssing: so type 'apt-get update'
[10:25] <chaoticgeek> lol
[10:26] <SbCl3> hi; since breezy i've had problems with  k3b; it doesn't give a normal user permission to use the device
[10:26] <SbCl3> how do i fix this?
[10:26] <manveru> chaoticgeek: you don't know about the other channels i'm in *evilgrin*
[10:26] <chaoticgeek> lol
[10:26] <manveru> SbCl3: you have to add yourself to a group
[10:26] <SbCl3> which group?
[10:26] <bl3ssing> something happens there ... :-)
[10:26] <manveru> SbCl3: lemme look it up
[10:27] <bl3ssing> manveru, now?
[10:27] <manveru> bl3ssing: is it done?
[10:27] <chaoticgeek> cdrom maybe
[10:27] <manveru> bl3ssing: ok, just for practice - type 'apt-cache search w32codecs'
[10:28] <SbCl3> but i'm already on the cdrom group :/
[10:29] <manveru> SbCl3: in this case, start k3b via 'kdesu k3b'
[10:29] <bl3ssing> it seems that this file cannot be found on that website
[10:29] <manveru> it's an evil hack - but i never burned cdroms in kubuntu
[10:29] <bl3ssing> :-(
[10:30] <bl3ssing> manveru,  it seems that this file cannot be found on that website
[10:30] <manveru> bl3ssing: wait a sec, i try to reproduce the error
[10:30] <manveru> bl3ssing: on what website? :)
[10:30] <bl3ssing> one sec pls.
[10:30] <manveru> bl3ssing: did you write the lines wrong in the sources.list?
[10:30] <chaoticgeek> dont you have to d/l the w32codecs pack and use dpkg -i pkgname.deb to install it
[10:31] <chaoticgeek> thats what I did
[10:31] <manveru> chaoticgeek: no there is a repo for them
[10:31] <chaoticgeek> oh
[10:31] <SbCl3> it's impossible to get it working on a normal user account?
[10:31] <chaoticgeek> well I guess I d/l them and installed it for no reason then
[10:31] <manveru> SbCl3: no, but i don't know how
[10:31] <chaoticgeek> other than to have them
[10:32] <manveru> chaoticgeek: i actually don't have speakers at my kubuntu-box :)
[10:32] <bl3ssing> htp://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas all
[10:32] <bl3ssing> :-)
[10:32] <manveru> ohoh :)
[10:32] <manveru> htTp
[10:32] <bl3ssing> http
[10:32] <bl3ssing> :-)
[10:32] <manveru> well, let's try it again
[10:32] <bl3ssing> typed errors
[10:32] <bl3ssing> ;)
[10:33] <bl3ssing> ok
[10:33] <manveru> nobody's perfect
[10:33] <bl3ssing> its everything ok with your computer?
[10:33] <bl3ssing> you're right manveru
[10:33] <bl3ssing> np
[10:33] <manveru> my computer works well
[10:33] <bl3ssing> I'm learning ... and you're my teacher. So ... that's perfect. If you're failing, than Ill do it. If you'll win, than I will win, right?
[10:33] <bl3ssing> :-)
[10:33] <bl3ssing> mine as well.
[10:34] <bl3ssing> not computer, program ... ADEPT
[10:34] <manveru> lol
[10:34] <bl3ssing> I didn't mean about the computer, but about the http ...
[10:34] <bl3ssing> you know ...
[10:34] <manveru> ok
[10:34] <bl3ssing> k
[10:34] <manveru> so you're able to install the codecs now
[10:34] <bl3ssing> what arewe going to do?
[10:34] <bl3ssing> sure ...
[10:34] <bl3ssing> but ... this site is not a good one ... maybe they don't have that file ... that file might be corrupted
[10:34] <bl3ssing> where can I find such of websites?
[10:35] <manveru> is there an error because of missing key?
[10:35] <bl3ssing> and ... how can I know about that they could be implemented into the Adept program?
[10:35] <manveru> well, these are called repositories
[10:36] <manveru> !repositories
[10:36] <ubotu> hmm... repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[10:36] <chaoticgeek> did you 'sudo apt-get update'?
[10:36] <manveru> good idea
[10:36] <manveru> did you update via adept?
[10:37] <chaoticgeek> bl3ssing: do you have the konsole open still?
[10:37] <manveru> he sounds quite busy...
[10:37] <chaoticgeek> oh
[10:37] <manveru> if silence is the sound of business
[10:37] <bl3ssing> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-backports/main Packages
[10:37] <bl3ssing>   404 Not Found
[10:37] <bl3ssing> this is the error ...
[10:37] <bl3ssing> sure
[10:37] <bl3ssing> I'm typing that command fromt he konsole
[10:37] <bl3ssing> why chaoticgeek ?
[10:37] <bl3ssing> :-)
[10:38] <chaoticgeek> put the # infront of backports, to my knowladge they are not working yet
[10:38] <bl3ssing> now I really understand what is with this repositories ...
[10:38] <manveru> chaoticgeek: i heard that they were added about a week ago
[10:38] <chaoticgeek> have you typed 'sudo apt-get update' recently
[10:38] <bl3ssing> what's that backports?
[10:38] <chaoticgeek> last week they still were not working for me
[10:38] <manveru> chaoticgeek: but well - nothing is sure with those us-mirrors
[10:38] <bl3ssing> sure chaoticgeek
[10:38] <chaoticgeek> ok
[10:39] <manveru> bl3ssing: ok, back to editing sources.list
[10:39] <bl3ssing> k manveru
[10:39] <manveru> bl3ssing: search and comment all lines that have 'backports' in them
[10:39] <manveru> save, close and run update again
[10:40] <slow-motion> re
[10:40] <manveru> hey
[10:40] <bl3ssing> how can I comment? with ##?
[10:40] <manveru> simple '#'
[10:40] <chaoticgeek> hey nalioth have you heard anything about the backports yet?
[10:40] <manveru> but of course it might look nicer with '##'
[10:40] <bl3ssing> ok
[10:40] <bl3ssing> ok
[10:41] <bl3ssing> what is a backports?
[10:41] <manveru> this is a special repository
[10:41] <bl3ssing> lol about looking nicer ... (not looking for any designing ... parts.)
[10:41] <bl3ssing> ok
[10:41] <bl3ssing> so ... what should I do ...?
[10:41] <manveru> with packages that are ported to breezy in case the breezy-ones are dated
[10:41] <manveru> have you done the update?
[10:42] <bl3ssing> hold on
[10:42] <bl3ssing> cause I'm a little bit confuse
[10:42] <bl3ssing> what should I do now?
[10:42] <jjesse> chaoticgeek: i think they announced a backports was available, check out fridge.ubuntu.com
[10:42] <manveru> (sorry for being so imperative)
[10:42] <bl3ssing> it is ok manveru , i really like these kind of teachers. Honestly.
[10:42] <manveru> ok, run the update again
[10:42] <manveru> 'sudo apt-get update'
[10:42] <bl3ssing> I've allways hated the nice teachers ...
[10:43] <bl3ssing> but manveru , I've nothing change into the sources.list ... file
[10:43] <bl3ssing> :-)
[10:43] <manveru> uhm didn't you comment the lines with backports?
[10:43] <bl3ssing> all of them?
[10:43] <bl3ssing> shall I do this?
[10:43] <manveru> all of them
[10:43] <bl3ssing> ok
[10:43] <bl3ssing> give me some sec. pls.
[10:44] <bl3ssing> done
[10:44] <bl3ssing> :-)
[10:44] <manveru> well, now update
[10:45] <bl3ssing> update to Adept?
[10:45] <manveru> doesn't matter
[10:45] <chaoticgeek> the backports are only two urls
[10:45] <manveru> the command you typed is the command that adept uses
[10:45] <bl3ssing> I've wrote sudo apt-get update
[10:45] <bl3ssing> :-)
[10:45] <manveru> perfect
[10:45] <bl3ssing> and ... it came this line
[10:45] <bl3ssing> Reading package lists...Done.
[10:45] <bl3ssing> now?
[10:45] <bl3ssing> :-)
[10:45] <manveru> woot :)
[10:45] <chaoticgeek> thats a great line
[10:45] <manveru> 'apt-cache search w32codecs'
[10:46] <bl3ssing> k
[10:46] <manveru> should spit out one line
[10:46] <manveru> in case it does - you know have the decicion - install via adept or via console...
[10:46] <chaoticgeek> personaly I like to make a text file of the packages that I have access to.
[10:47] <manveru> chaoticgeek: i usually use apt-cache | grep
[10:47] <chaoticgeek> apt-cache pkgnames > pkgnames.txt
[10:47] <bl3ssing> manveru, i've done ...
[10:47] <chaoticgeek> works great for me
[10:47] <bl3ssing> marius@ubuntu:~$ apt-cache search w32codecs
[10:47] <bl3ssing> marius@ubuntu:~$
[10:47] <bl3ssing> so ..
[10:47] <manveru> bl3ssing: baad
[10:47] <bl3ssing> really?
[10:47] <bl3ssing> :-(
[10:48] <manveru> quite
[10:48] <bl3ssing> Mammmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[10:48] <bl3ssing> LOL
[10:48] <chaoticgeek> I'm telling you just d/l and dpkg -i them
[10:48] <manveru> chaoticgeek: would be bad as well
[10:48] <manveru> chaoticgeek: but i guess it's the easiest way now
[10:48] <LjL> what's bad? apt-cache searching?
[10:48] <manveru> LjL: no, that it gave no result
[10:49] <LjL> aw
[10:49] <bl3ssing> manveru, what should I do now?
[10:49] <manveru> now i only wonder why the hell it doesn't work for you
[10:49] <chaoticgeek> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba <<here is the link to installing codecs
[10:49] <bl3ssing> :-(
[10:49] <bl3ssing> lol manveru.
[10:49] <manveru> however, follow the link
[10:50] <manveru> dl the file
[10:50] <bl3ssing> dl = delete?
[10:50] <manveru> download
[10:50] <bl3ssing> lol
[10:50] <chaoticgeek> d/l is download
[10:50] <chaoticgeek> w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb << this is the link you click on once that page loads to d/l the codecs.deb package
[10:51] <manveru> chaoticgeek: i guess he knows that :)
[10:51] <chaoticgeek> well just making sure
[10:51] <SbCl3> hmm...how can this be fixed?
[10:51] <SbCl3> sbcl3@ramanujan:~$ k3b: ERROR: (K3bDevice::Device) Unable to do inquiry.
[10:51] <SbCl3> k3b: ERROR: (K3bDevice::Device) Unable to do inquiry.
[10:52] <manveru> SbCl3: an easy solution would be to go out and buy a new computer, install kubuntu on it and see if it works
[10:52] <bl3ssing> w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb ... is this the file I have to dl it?
[10:52] <manveru> yeap
[10:52] <chaoticgeek> yes
[10:52] <bl3ssing> ok
[10:52] <chaoticgeek> remember where you d/l it to also.
[10:52] <bl3ssing> than?
[10:52] <bl3ssing> :-)
[10:53] <bl3ssing> I'm downloading it on my desktop.
[10:53] <bl3ssing> :-)
[10:53] <chaoticgeek> open up the konsole
[10:53] <manveru> perfect
[10:53] <manveru> type 'cd Desktop'
[10:53] <bl3ssing> done
[10:53] <manveru> 'sudo dpkg -i w32[tab] [enter] '
[10:53] <bl3ssing> now ... I think I have to wait ...
[10:53] <chaoticgeek> lol we could screw him up and give alternating commands lol
[10:53] <bl3ssing> until that file will be donwloaded
[10:53] <manveru> bl3ssing: ok, when it's here, type the above
[10:54] <manveru> chaoticgeek: like overwriting all stuff on his computer with /dev/random?
[10:54] <chaoticgeek> rm -rf /
[10:54] <chaoticgeek> sudo rm -rf /
[10:54] <manveru> chaoticgeek: just wanted to say that :)
[10:54] <bl3ssing> lol ...
[10:54] <manveru> chaoticgeek: but it's a lame one
[10:54] <chaoticgeek> ya
[10:55] <chaoticgeek> but still would be funny to see someone do it
[10:55] <bl3ssing> what is that rm - rf meaning?
[10:55] <bl3ssing> of
[10:55] <chaoticgeek> remove folders w/out asking
[10:55] <bl3ssing> lol
[10:55] <manveru> ReMove -recursive -force
[10:55] <bl3ssing> shall I ...?
[10:55] <chaoticgeek> rm is remove files, -rf says folders too even if they are full
[10:55] <chaoticgeek> no
[10:56] <SbCl3> manveru: this was never a problem with hoary
[10:56] <manveru> SbCl3: you upgraded? or did you do a clean install?
[10:56] <SbCl3> clean install
[10:56] <manveru> SbCl3: that's odd then...
[10:56] <chaoticgeek> I would try and see if I had the problem, but I dont have anything to burn
[10:57] <manveru> even the cd-rom doesn't work anymore
[10:57] <chaoticgeek> dvd+rw burner
[10:59] <manveru> when i want to burn something i use cdrecord...
[10:59] <manveru> it's a bit old-fashioned - but works since years :)
[10:59] <chaoticgeek> so far I'm not having that problem w/ k3b
[10:59] <SbCl3> as root everything works fine
[10:59] <manveru> and well, i have a burner on my laptop (the one i use right now) but i have only minimal WM on it
[10:59] <SbCl3> so it's not a hardware problem
[10:59] <chaoticgeek> I did get an error though
[11:00] <SbCl3> what does cdrecord do?
[11:00] <manveru> SbCl3: it's the thing k3b is a frontend for
[11:00] <SbCl3> i'm using it with cdrdao, maybe it's conflicting the other?
[11:00] <chaoticgeek> my error was unable to write@LBA=OH: input/output error
[11:00] <manveru> SbCl3: oh, k... - but maybe you can change permissions
[11:01] <manveru> bl3ssing: anything happened?
[11:01] <manveru> SbCl3: try to chmod /dev/cd*
[11:01] <chaoticgeek> write faild: input output error, error while creating ISO image, Fatal error during recording: Input/Output error
[11:01] <bl3ssing> still downloading manveru
[11:01] <chaoticgeek> failed not faild
[11:01] <bl3ssing> :-)
[11:02] <bl3ssing> 3% remained ...
[11:02] <bl3ssing> remaining
[11:02] <bl3ssing> :-)
[11:02] <bl3ssing> lol
[11:02] <bl3ssing> done
[11:02] <bl3ssing> now?
[11:02] <manveru> 'sudo dpkg -i w32[tab] [enter] '
[11:03] <fevoldj2> Hi
[11:03] <fevoldj2> WHat is the site that details the codecs in Kubuntu?
[11:03] <manveru> !w32codecs
[11:03] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://giannaros.org/public/breezydebs/
[11:04] <fevoldj2> thanks
[11:04] <chaoticgeek> crap, I got another I/O error when trying to burn a data dvd
[11:05] <chaoticgeek> looks like I got a project to do...
[11:05] <bl3ssing> I'm wondering where the file has been downloade?
[11:05] <bl3ssing> :-(
[11:05] <bl3ssing> how can I find it?
[11:06] <manveru> cd ~/Desktop
[11:06] <chaoticgeek> desktop?
[11:06] <chaoticgeek> cd Desktop
[11:06] <bl3ssing> it is not there
[11:06] <bl3ssing> :-(
[11:06] <manveru> hmm
[11:06] <SbCl3> my error is "Cdrecord has no permission to open this device"
[11:06] <bl3ssing> what was the name of the file?
[11:06] <bl3ssing> it was something with .deb
[11:06] <fevoldj2> Is there a AMD64 version of w32codecs?
[11:06] <bl3ssing> but ... what was the name?
[11:06] <manveru> uhm
[11:06] <manveru> well
[11:06] <manveru> got no idea
[11:06] <bl3ssing> w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[11:07] <chaoticgeek> type 'ls' and tell us what you see
[11:07] <bl3ssing> found it ... but ... I'll try to find the file in my com ...
[11:07] <bl3ssing> ls
[11:07] <chaoticgeek> theere it is
[11:07] <bl3ssing> lol
[11:07] <bl3ssing> there's no w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb file
[11:07] <manveru> ls == dir_of_dos
[11:07] <bl3ssing> on the desktop
[11:07] <bl3ssing> i see
[11:07] <manveru> ok
[11:07] <bl3ssing> that's great
[11:07] <manveru> if that happens, i usually do something very odd :)
[11:08] <manveru> 'updatedb'
[11:08] <chaoticgeek> what?
[11:08] <SbCl3> could my fstab line be wrong?
[11:08] <SbCl3> it looks like this:
[11:08] <SbCl3> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[11:08] <manveru> SbCl3: you sure it is scd0?
[11:09] <manveru> i thought scsi-emulation was left behind some years ago...
[11:09] <bl3ssing> marius@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[11:09] <bl3ssing> Selecting previously deselected package w32codecs.
[11:09] <bl3ssing> (Reading database ... 86599 files and directories currently installed.)
[11:09] <bl3ssing> Unpacking w32codecs (from w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb) ...
[11:09] <bl3ssing> Setting up w32codecs (20050412-0.0) ...
[11:10] <bl3ssing> marius@ubuntu:~/Desktop$
[11:10] <bl3ssing> is this ok ... manveru ?
[11:10] <bl3ssing> :-)
[11:10] <manveru> perfect
[11:10] <SbCl3> i didn't change it; kubuntu wrote it like this
[11:10] <manveru> that was a hard birth... :)
[11:10] <chaoticgeek> this is my fstab for my cdrom /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[11:10] <bl3ssing> cool
[11:10] <bl3ssing> LOL manveru
[11:10] <bl3ssing> :-)
[11:10] <nalioth> chaoticgeek: backports will come after core dapper stuff is gotten out of the way
[11:10] <manveru> bl3ssing: now what's next...
[11:10] <manveru> bl3ssing: you wanted to play wmv?
[11:10] <bl3ssing> lol
[11:10] <bl3ssing> sure
[11:10] <chaoticgeek> okies
[11:11] <bl3ssing> I'll check it ... now
[11:11] <bl3ssing> :-)
[11:11] <chaoticgeek> so manveru the backports are not up yet
[11:11] <bl3ssing> hope it will work
[11:11] <bl3ssing> s
[11:11] <manveru> nalioth, chaoticgeek ty :)
[11:11] <manveru> bl3ssing: what player do you use?
[11:11] <chaoticgeek> I do like nano's interface for the commands
[11:12] <chaoticgeek> its a bit nicer than :wq to save and quit
[11:12] <manveru> chaoticgeek: yeah, i still use it from time to time for coding
[11:12] <manveru> chaoticgeek: but i never got round doing a syntax-highlighting for ruby
[11:12] <chaoticgeek> but I got used to vi so I dont think I'll be swiching anytime soon
[11:12] <manveru> chaoticgeek: beware! don't switch from vi
[11:13] <manveru> chaoticgeek: nano is not as powerful as it might seem
[11:13] <longfei> how can i use webcam in Kopete?
[11:13] <longfei> who can tell me?
[11:13] <manveru> longfei: i don't think you can
[11:13] <longfei> why?
[11:13] <manveru> dunno, ask the people in #kopete
[11:13] <longfei> haha!!
[11:14] <chaoticgeek> well its vim, not vi I guess. When I start it up w/ 'vi' it gives me vim but its all the same to me
[11:14] <bl3ssing> i'll restart my computer
[11:14] <bl3ssing> :-)
[11:14] <bl3ssing> brb
[11:14] <manveru> oO?
[11:14] <longfei> can i use webcam in Kubuntu when i talk with others?
[11:15] <manveru> longfei: you can try gaim, i guess it does support webcams
[11:15] <l3m> kopete in 3.5 supports webcams
[11:15] <l3m> !kde3.5
[11:15] <longfei> but it did not work!!
[11:15] <ubotu> it has been said that kde3.5 is KDE 3.5 Release Candidate 1 is out: http://tinyurl.com/dycgf
[11:15] <longfei> i have tried!!
[11:15] <manveru> 3.5?
[11:16] <l3m> kde 3.5
[11:16] <l3m> !kde3.5
[11:16] <manveru> or do you still use 3.4.whatever
[11:16] <manveru> l3m: don't overdo it
[11:16] <longfei> kde 3.4
[11:16] <l3m> :9
[11:16] <l3m> :)
[11:16] <manveru> longfei: see, he said in 3.5
[11:16] <longfei> how to?
[11:16] <longfei> update?
[11:16] <longfei> or?
[11:16] <manveru> longfei: 3.5 still is beta
[11:17] <manveru> if you want to use it - follow the url
[11:17] <longfei> i see!
[11:17] <longfei> thank you!!
[11:20] <chaoticgeek> hey manveru are you using kde 3.5 rc1?
[11:21] <manveru> chaoticgeek: no
[11:22] <manveru> chaoticgeek: have enough work without an unstable system...
[11:24] <DaSkreech> Does Kubuntu have to be released the same time as Ubuntu?
[11:24] <manveru> DaSkreech: with some days delay
[11:25] <manveru> DaSkreech: but probably this has gotten better now
[11:25] <DaSkreech> So if KDE4 is coming out aweek after ubunutu is released you can wait for it
[11:25] <manveru> no
[11:26] <manveru> i don't think that they would do something that stupid
[11:26] <DaSkreech> a week? :-(
[11:26] <DaSkreech> It would still be 6.04
[11:26] <manveru> 6.04?
[11:26] <manveru> well, the future will show
[11:27] <l3m> lol it'll be quite a while before kde 4.0 will be released
[11:27] <manveru> it's almost a year till then...
[11:27] <DaSkreech> I think the timeline is for late april
[11:27] <usuari> hello
[11:27] <chaoticgeek> hello
[11:27] <manveru> they can never hold this timeline
[11:28] <manveru> next kde-release is 3.5
[11:28] <manveru> this should say a bit about when kde 4.0 will come out
[11:29] <Arvedui> I wanted to install kubuntu on my pc and I have problems. If anybody could help me, open me a query, please!
[11:29] <manveru> Arvedui: please just ask - we are all here to help you
[11:29] <Arvedui> ok manveru thanks
[11:30] <DaSkreech> manveru: ok
[11:30] <DaSkreech> It's not a big issue then
[11:30] <l3m> i think kde4 might be release 16th october 06 ;)
[11:30] <l3m> released
[11:30] <l3m> hehe
[11:31] <chaoticgeek> or june 6th 06 lol
[11:31] <Arvedui> manveru the instalation starts ok and when its installing the base system, it blocks every time
[11:31] <l3m> 16 oct would be 10 years festival
[11:31] <l3m> ;)
[11:31] <chaoticgeek> KDE4.0 the end of humans
[11:32] <chaoticgeek> I am very weird
[11:33] <l3m> no.
[11:34] <Arvedui> manveru !!!
[11:34] <manveru> manveru: go on - i cannot say what happens if you do not give me some error or something
[11:34] <manveru> urgh
[11:34] <manveru> Arvedui i meant :)
[11:34] <l3m> Arvedui: what "blocks"? what's the last text you can read before it "blocks"?
[11:35] <manveru> sorry guys, but i need to do some work now...
[11:35] <manveru> cya later
[11:35] <Arvedui> manveru sorry I'm very bad in english...
[11:35] <chaoticgeek> me too and english is my native toung
[11:35] <chaoticgeek> tounge*
[11:36] <manveru> Arvedui: what is your native-language?
[11:36] <LjL> catalan i suppose
[11:36] <manveru> i guess someone in here speaks it...
[11:36] <LjL> don't look at me
[11:36] <Arvedui> manveru catalan, but I learnt spanish since I was three
[11:36] <chaoticgeek> I should go read java
[11:36] <LeeJunFan> catalan? is that like cantonese with an italian accent?
[11:37] <manveru> Arvedui: there is a espaniol channel
[11:37] <LjL> ...
[11:37] <l3m> Arvedui: there is a kubuntu-es channel
[11:37] <l3m> Arvedui: type /join kubuntu-es
[11:37] <Arvedui> ok :) thanks
[11:37] <chaoticgeek> I thought it was ubutnu
[11:37] <l3m> there's both i guess ;)
[11:37] <LjL> (it's french with an italian+spanish accent, actually)
[11:38] <Arvedui> LeeJunFan catalan is a language from spain and south france
[11:38] <LeeJunFan> LjL: ahh. Never heard of it before today.
[11:38] <LjL> LeeJunFan: i was kidding anyway, it's not really the thing i said it is ;)
[11:38] <Arvedui> LeeJunFan where do you live?
[11:39] <LeeJunFan> USA, I know the nick is misleading.
[11:39] <Arvedui> manveru in the spanish channel nobody answers
[11:40] <Arvedui> manveru I think we will understand between us
[11:40] <Arvedui> LeeJunFan I live in mallorca, a little island in the mediterranean sea that belongs spain
[11:45] <Arvedui> manveru how means in english when computer stops and you can't make anything and you must reboot?
[11:46] <manveru> Arvedui: sorry, but i am not here anymore
[11:46] <Arvedui> manveru:  ok bye
[11:46] <manveru> Arvedui: i need to work - sorry
[11:46] <Arvedui> manveru sorry
[11:47] <raphink> hi there
[11:47] <raphink> I've got a pb with my sudo if anyone ever saw that
[11:47] <raphink>  $ sudo apt-get update
[11:47] <raphink> sudo: Can't open /var/run/sudo/raphink/1: Read-only file system
[11:47] <raphink> collect: Cannot write ./dfjALMgJuB016553 (bfcommit, uid=1000, gid=123): Read-only file system
[11:47] <raphink> queueup: cannot create queue file ./qfjALMgJuB016553, euid=1000, fd=-1, fp=0x0: Read-only file system
[11:48] <raphink> ...
[11:48] <nalioth> raphink: boot into rescue mode and run 'fsck'
[11:49] <raphink> well i was told to run
[11:49] <raphink> mount /var rw
[11:49] <nalioth> raphink: first, just reboot and see if that fixes it
[11:49] <raphink> not sure that'll help
[11:49] <raphink> ok nalioth
[11:49] <nalioth> cuz you are scrambled
[11:49] <LjL> shouldn't it be mount -o remount,rw /var, anyway
[11:50] <raphink> well I havne't got a var partition anyway ;)
[11:50] <raphink> I'll reboot and see
[11:50] <nalioth> LjL: let him reboot and get a clean slate
[11:50] <raphink> it's like argggh when you're in the middle of a pbuilding process
[11:50] <raphink> but nm
[11:50] <raphink> yep
[11:50] <nalioth> that's scary stuff
[11:50] <raphink> bubbye
[11:50] <nalioth> pbuilder, i shoulda known
[11:51] <LjL> nalioth: sure, all i was saying is i think "-o remount" should be added to the line he mentioned
[11:51] <raphink> nalioth: why?
[11:53] <Arvedui> sorry, can anybody help me installing kubuntu?
[11:53] <nalioth> raphink: i need lots of help with pbuilder, too
[11:53] <raphink> nalioth: what kind of help?
[11:55] <Arvedui> steve ballmer seems a monkey when screams -> developers, developers, developers...
[11:56] <Arvedui> raphink: could you help me?
[11:57] <nalioth> raphink: lots of help, but that's for anothr channel
[11:57] <raphink> ok
[11:57] <raphink> well I have to fix this pb first
[11:57] <raphink> then finish my packages
[11:57] <raphink> then i'll help you ;)
[11:58] <Arvedui> el sello del olvido se ha roto...
[11:59] <Arvedui> y la bella dama nunca nunca volvera
[11:59] <Arvedui> the seal of oblivion is broken and a pure love is turned into sin...
[12:00] <kkathman> hmm
[12:00] <kkathman> sounds a bit black to me
[12:01] <Arvedui> good night people, here in Mallora it's very late and tomorrow I must study
[12:01] <slow-motion> n8
[12:02] <Arvedui> ciao!
[12:02] <nalioth> arafat: ciao!


[01:40] <Sly> Talk about ridiculous. CTRL+ALT+T won't even open terminal after the last couple of upgrades I've done, and there are no error logs for why it may not have opened.
[01:40] <Sly> It's amazing that a custom hotkey works, but a default hotkey doesn't.
[01:54] <Sly> Oh well. Guess it's time to reformat to something that has some decent dev support.
[01:54] <Sly> pz
[05:51] <obounaim> #join #ubuntu
[14:50] <doko> cjwatson: Source and binary movements to restricted
[14:50] <doko>  -----------------------------------------
[14:50] <doko>  o emacs-defaults
[14:53] <Laney> why restricted?
[14:53] <Laney> it should go to main
[15:03] <Laney> doko: ^
[15:04] <doko> just copied from component mismatches
[15:04] <Laney> any idea?
[15:08] <doko> I assume a glitch in supporting packages from restricted in yesterday's update
[15:09] <Laney> why is it component mismatched at all?
[22:45] <doko> debfx, qt4-x11 has an unused b-d on g++-4.6. please remove it
[22:47] <xnox> what to do with sponsorship requests that are not appropriate for quantal, but are ok for Rancid Raccoon r-series?
[23:12] <cjwatson> doko: Thanks, I'll debug that
[23:13] <cjwatson> Obviously a bug :-)
[23:21] <cjwatson> Ah, easy fix, done


[00:15] <dev001> Hi.  I'm doing a 1st ppa-based update to a Kubuntu/Maverick rc install.  Trying to grab the 'new' KDE 4.5.2 pkgs @ "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu maverick  main", after 'apt-get update', I'd expect to see *lots* of offered pkg updates by 'apt-get upgrade'.  Atm, I only see a couple ~ 30MB worth ...  Is there additional prioritization, or some such, required?  Still newish to [K]ubuntu
[00:39] <alexsarmiento> hi, please help
[00:39] <alexsarmiento> im using kubuntu 10.10
[00:39] <alexsarmiento> the package manager updated the nvidia drivers to 260.19.06
[00:40] <alexsarmiento> now i dont have video aoutput
[00:48] <alexsarmiento> the package manager updated the nvidia drivers to 260.19.06
[00:48] <alexsarmiento> now i dont have video output. what can i do?
[00:52] <RadSurfer> HELP! this stupid "notification" for pidgin messages IN ADDITION to actually having pidgin chat is rediculous!   Hmm.  anyway, there will undoubtedly be a setting to twiddle in the Preferences settings.
[00:54] <alexsarmiento> system settings- applications and system notifications?
[00:55] <alexsarmiento> the package manager updated the nvidia drivers to 260.19.06
[00:55] <alexsarmiento> now i dont have video output. what can i do?
[00:57] <RadSurfer> you can't just turn off these stupid things?
[00:58] <RadSurfer> 'pidgin' is not listed under 'Sys Not - sys settings' !!
[01:01] <RadSurfer> ANYONE know how to DISABLE NOTIFICATIONS from Pidgin?
[01:01] <Riddell> RadSurfer: Pidgin is a gnome app, you'll have better luck asking in #ubuntu
[01:01] <Riddell> or using Kopete
[01:01] <RadSurfer> this is RETARTED
[01:01] <RadSurfer> RETARDED even!
[01:01] <RadSurfer> Piging provides its own interface for messages; an ADDITIONAL one is NOT required!
[01:02] <RadSurfer> this is being SYSTEM GENERATED
[01:02] <Riddell> best to avoid capitals and potentially offensive insults on IRC
[01:02] <RadSurfer> emphasis.
[01:03] <RadSurfer> s/Piging/Pidgin
[01:04] <RadSurfer> Anyone at all know how to turn __off__ these additional notifications for pidgin?  anyone?
[01:05] <Riddell> RadSurfer: as I say, you're asking in the wrong channel
[01:06] <RadSurfer> running in kubuntu. valid enuff.
[01:06] <KukuNut> RadSurfer: to disable it.. replace with kopete
[01:07] <RadSurfer> why did I lose the system tray?
[01:07] <RadSurfer> I have no system tray now? where did it go? and why?
[01:09] <RadSurfer> has to be with _focus_ apparently.
[01:09] <alexsarmiento> the package manager updated the nvidia drivers to 260.19.06
[01:09] <alexsarmiento> now i dont have video output. what can i do?
[01:09] <RadSurfer> when Pidgin does not have focus, thats when these annoying popups appear
[01:13] <RadSurfer> does _anyone_ know how to _permanently_ turn _off_ popup notifications from pidgin?
[01:16] <RadSurfer> surely someone else in here also uses pidgin?
[01:16] <alexsarmiento> the package manager updated the nvidia drivers to 260.19.06
[01:16] <alexsarmiento> now i dont have video output. what can i do?
[01:16] <jtduncan> where can i find the new kubuntu logos?
[01:18] <RadSurfer> No one answered me yet: Why did I lose System Tray icons?
[01:27] <frogonwheels> RadSurfer: just add a system tray to your toolbar again (click on the palette icon)
[01:27] <frogonwheels> RadSurfer: (Add widgets - find system tray)
[01:28] <frogonwheels> alexsarmiento: if you can press ctrl+alt+f1  and get a console - do that, login and use aptitude to downgrade your drivers.
[01:28] <frogonwheels> alexsarmiento: otherwsie, select rescue mode from the grub boot
[01:30] <buckethead> Hi guys. I've got a printing problem. Anytime I try to print from any KDE app I get "/usr/lib/cups/filter/pstopdf failed" - yet printing works from firefox?
[01:32] <RadSurfer> silly Q: how best to get to 'add widget'
[01:32] <frogonwheels> RadSurfer: did you click on the palette icon?
[01:32] <buckethead> Do you see a 'cashew' looking thing in the upper right hand corner of desktop?
[01:32] <frogonwheels> RadSurfer: actually it should be at the end of the toolbar
[01:33] <buckethead> Erm, System Tray.. Haha. Came in halfway, sorry.
[01:33] <RadSurfer> ok. I found that. trying to sort out how to select it
[01:33] <RadSurfer> Ah
[01:34] <RadSurfer> well that aspect of kubuntu hasn't changed.
[01:34] <RadSurfer> I need to sort out a few things here.
[01:35] <RadSurfer> and again, thanks for helping.
[01:35] <frogonwheels> RadSurfer: np.
[01:35] <RadSurfer> would you believe I used sidux for awhile. Sidux never had its sys-tray desintegrate
[01:36] <RadSurfer> and sidux didn't annoy me with these notifications.
[01:37] <RadSurfer> I suppose, I'll have to weigh how well other tasks are performed in kubuntu :)
[01:42] <RadSurfer> OK!
[01:43] <RadSurfer> I found out what was causing my "notifications"
[01:43] <RadSurfer> For you pidgin users out there:
[01:43] <RadSurfer> There is a plugin which is turned on by default; to disable those popups when chat-window is covered, just turn of "libnotify" plugin!
[02:15] <dev001> still struggling with my 'magnum opus' upgrade to KDE 4.5.2 ppa ...  Any hints from anyone as to how to get it done, without constant "packages have been kept back" messages/conflicts?
[02:34] <apolo444> holaaaa
[02:35] <apolo444> hola
[02:35] <apolo444> hello
[02:43] <lolihunter> hello
[02:48] <apolo444> you speak spanish?
[02:48] <lolihunter> no
[02:48] <apolo444> i speak spanish
[02:48] <lolihunter> I am a Chinese
[02:57] <apolo444> sorry, i speak spanish
[06:02] <olskolirc> ok guys i just upgraded to Maverick so now where does /media/cdrom cdrom0 live?
[06:31] <bullgard4> I am using predominantly GNOME but using a KDE program also. An email requested that I "change style of my KDE widgets to something other than Oxygen (in Personal Settings->Appearance->Style)." Where to find Personal Settings->Appearance->Style?
[06:45] <DarthFrog> bullgard4: It's actually the program "systemsettings".  And it'll be "Application Appearance/Style", not Personal Settings.  But why would  an email care what widgets you use?  I would be *extremely* suspicious.
[06:56] <illunatic> anyone know where wallpaper settings are in 10.4?
[06:56] <illunatic> 04
[06:57] <lolihunter> the same to windows
[06:58] <lolihunter> just click your right button on the desk
[06:59] <illunatic> oh yeah now i remember
[06:59] <illunatic> hah
[06:59] <illunatic> thanks
[07:12] <u343> hellooo
[07:12] <olskolirc> im on maverick and my cdrom is now /dev/sr0 and there is nothing about it in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab where is my mount?  I want it back in /media/cdrom
[07:45] <bullgard4> DarthFrog: It is the developer of this KDE application program who suggested that in an email answer.
[07:46] <DarthFrog> bullgard4: OK, that's probably safe then. :-)
[07:50] <bullgard4> So far I did not install the DEB program package »systemsettings«. Installing it would further blow up storage usage just for one program.
[07:51] <DarthFrog> You don't have to install it.  It's there already.
[07:52] <DarthFrog> In the menu,  It should already be in "Favourites".
[07:52] <bullgard4> I do not understand. A file exists although the associated package is not installed?
[07:52] <DarthFrog> Or press ALT-F2 and type "systemsettings".
[07:53] <DarthFrog> It's the main utility of your system. :-)
[07:55] <DarthFrog> It's basic to Kubuntu.
[07:56] <bullgard4> ALT-F2 > "systemsettings" throws an error "location »file:///home/detlef/systemsettings« could not be displayed."
[07:57] <DarthFrog> strange.
[07:58] <DarthFrog> Do you have the kubuntu-desktop package installed?  Or just a KDE app?
[07:59] <bullgard4> DarthFrog: The DEB program package »kubuntu-desktop« is not installed.
[08:00] <DarthFrog> OK, you're in the wrong channel.  This is for Kubuntu support.  I take it you're running GNOME in Ubuntu.  You should be asking for help in #Ubuntu.
[08:01] <bullgard4> Ok.
[08:01] <DarthFrog> Or install "kubuntu-desktop" which will allow you to run KDE as well.
[08:03] <bullgard4> I will not. I will not waste 1 GB HDD storage in ordert to just use one KDE application. In Lucid this was not necessary either.
[08:03] <bullgard4> s/ordert/order/
[09:10] <sresu> I'm using KDE 4.5 now. If I upgrade Kubuntu from Lucid to Meerkat, will it affect the upgrade?
[09:22] <andrew__> hi
[10:12] <howlymowly> hi poeple...   short question:  is it somehow possible to use the KDE message indicator to automtically start kmail?  message ckeing works on my system but when I click on the message in the message indicator it just won't start kmail.
[10:41] <greenmang0> hello friends, i am running kubuntu 10.04.1 with kde 4.5.1... what i have noticed that /tmp doesn't get emptied on reboot
[10:41] <greenmang0> what can be the reason?
[10:43] <greenmang0> /etc/default/rcS has TMPTIME=0
[10:49] <thedog> hi guys, is there a way to read files from a panasonic rr-us395 recorder ?
[11:06] <JohnInChester> Good morning
[11:06] <zaizai> may i ask
[11:20] <crackstore> hye all
[11:21] <crackstore> anyone here?
[11:21] <crackstore> my kubuntu annot update and upgrade
[11:21] <crackstore> :(
[11:21] <crackstore> *cannot
[11:23] <jussi> crackstore: what happens?
[11:23] <crackstore> i dunno
[11:23] <crackstore> after i replace my dvdrom
[11:23] <crackstore> i cannot update or upgrade
[11:24] <crackstore> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.mmu.edu.my/ubuntu/dists/lucid-security/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  Unable to connect to archive.mmu.edu.my:http:
[11:24] <crackstore> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[11:24] <crackstore> before this ok..
[11:24] <crackstore> cool and smooth..
[11:24] <jussi> crackstore: try changing your mirror in the sources section of kpackagekit
[11:24] <crackstore> changing to where?
[11:26] <BajK> Is there a way of preventing quassel from starting more than once?
[11:27] <jussi> crackstore: choose a country/mirror close to you...
[11:27] <crackstore> jussi, oke.. i try..
[11:27] <jussi> or use the main mirror
[11:27] <BajK> so, if I enter quassel again in krunner that it just opens the current window and does not start another instance
[11:28] <crackstore> jussi, that mean.. the download from i put main server?
[11:28] <jussi> crackstore: there should be a list, choose main server
[11:29] <crackstore> jussi, yup.. have a list..
[11:29] <Peace-> hi channel
[11:29] <Peace-> l
[11:29] <crackstore> hi Peace-
[11:30] <jussi> crackstore: so yeah, select main and click apply or ok
[11:31] <crackstore> jussi, oke.. now .. package install..
[11:35] <frany> I have upgraded to maverick yesterday and the sound stopped working -- any suggestions?
[11:37] <crackstore> jussi, 99% it stuck.. :(
[11:37] <crackstore> so long..
[11:38] <Walzmyn> frany: is maverick the new one? 10.10?
[11:39] <frany> yes
[11:39] <Walzmyn> try this channel...
[11:39] <Walzmyn> !maverick
[11:39] <frany> okay, thanks
[11:39] <Walzmyn> sure
[11:42] <crackstore> why istalling package so long? that is normal?.. anyone have idea?
[11:42] <crackstore> :)
[11:43] <crackstore> after changing the download server.. installing will be stuck 99%..
[12:13] <dick> bonjour tous le monde !!!
[12:13] <Mamarok> !fr | dick
[12:19] <sebersole> is there a way to recieve an event when a laptop lid is opened or closed?  udev does not seem to handle lid events.
[12:20] <sebersole> there is '/proc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state' so obviously ubuntu hooks into that correctly
[12:20] <tasslehoff> hey. back in KDE today after a time in Gnome, and I really enjoy myself :), but: is there a way to make sd-cards mount without having to visit the mount points in dolphin first?
[12:20] <tasslehoff> I just want to work with it in Konsole
[13:03] <rork> tasslehoff: you can set them to automount in System Settings > Advanced > Removable Devices
[13:04] <tasslehoff> rork: ah, thanks
[13:13] <Walzmyn> frany: tasslehoffssssssssssssssssdfffffre21`zssxcvbnm,./"?""?
[13:16] <frany> Walzmyn, what are you saying?
[13:34] <BluesKaj> Hello all
[13:45] <crackstore> hye al
[13:45] <crackstore> ll
[13:45] <crackstore> :)
[13:46] <crackstore> how to read file .cap?
[14:06] <bigboss> hhi!
[14:06] <bigboss> is someone online?
[14:07] <Unksi> hi bigboss
[14:07] <bigboss> how are u?
[14:07] <Unksi> good
[14:07] <BluesKaj> !ask
[14:08] <Unksi> just got on actually :p
[14:08] <Unksi> you?
[14:08] <bigboss> do someone knows a free download site for kubuntu apps?
[14:08] <BluesKaj> quiet in here this morning
[14:09] <bazhang> bigboss, ubuntu repos
[14:09] <BluesKaj> bigboss, look in your package manager
[14:09] <bazhang> !repos > bigboss
[14:09] <methril_work> hi kubuntu devs
[14:11] <BluesKaj> methril_work, try #ubuntu+1
[14:12] <methril_work> BluesKaj, i'm trying :)
[14:12] <methril_work> thanks
[14:13] <BluesKaj> methril_work, if it's kde specific then #kde might be the place
[14:19] <bigboss> is it possible to install vlc on kubuntu?
[14:19] <moetunes> !info vlc
[14:19] <moetunes> yep
[14:20] <bigboss> can i have the deb package of vlc?
[14:20] <xeviox> I've installed the kubuntu-desktop meta package in my ubuntu setup, everything worked well, but now when I use kde and setup width / heights and position of activities on the desktop they get resetted a few seconds later, any ideas what happens?
[14:21] <bigboss> not at all
[14:25] <sebersole> is there a way to recieve an event when a laptop lid is opened or closed?  udev does not seem to handle lid events.
[14:25] <sebersole> there is '/proc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state' so obviously ubuntu hooks into that correctly
[14:25] <sebersole> i've been warned lid.sh is "deprecated"
[14:29] <BluesKaj> bigbrovar, is there a specific version of vlc that someone recomended to you or is the default version in the repos/package manager not suiting your needs ?
[14:30] <sebersole> xeviox: i saw that too, just to confirm
[14:31] <sebersole> the widgets would not stay where i placed them
[14:31] <BluesKaj> oops , wrong guy and the bigboss left anyway
[14:37] <xeviox> sebersole: were you able to fix it?
[14:38] <sebersole> dunno yet
[14:38] <sebersole> i reinstalled and am working on getting other things working
[14:43] <xeviox> k
[14:43] <xeviox> sebersole: so the problem disappeared after reinstall?
[14:44] <xeviox> can someone help me to import accounts / history from pidgin into kopete?
[14:44] <sebersole> dunno yet
[14:44] <sebersole> i reinstalled and am working on getting other things working
[14:47] <xeviox> oh god, seems the install of kubuntu-desktop killed my pidgin setup :(
[14:48] <xeviox> argh that's hard *grr
[15:07] <phoenix_> how to configure the windows key to open the kmenu
[15:10] <baxeico> hi guys. will maverick have kde sc 4.5.2 by default?
[15:11] <BluesKaj> baxeico, ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:12] <baxeico> BluesKaj: kubuntu maverick is due in 4 days :)
[15:12] <sebersole> before i attempt this again...  the package i should be installing for vpnc is network-manager-vpnc-kde ??
[15:13] <phoenix_> 10/10/10
[15:13] <sebersole> haha
[15:13] <phoenix_> :)
[15:13] <sebersole> is maverik 10.10?
[15:14] <bazhang> yes
[15:14] <sebersole> too good
[15:14] <BluesKaj> baxeico, yeah, but I'm not real excited about it ...they haven't fixed lucid yet . Sure hope maverick doesn't inherit all the graphics driver and intel driver probs
[15:15] <phoenix_> BluesKaj: i think lucid is a stop-gap
[15:15] <BluesKaj> lucid is LTS
[15:16] <phoenix_> luicd is a huge step in ui and also in certain things, you have to wait
[15:16] <BluesKaj> could be why it's taking so long to fix things
[15:16] <BluesKaj> !LTS
[15:17] <phoenix_> BluesKaj: for me the driver problems with nvidia cards got solved in 10.04. i have no issue of drivers
[15:17] <phoenix_> after the last update for 10.04 the performace and very good
[15:18] <phoenix_> BluesKaj: what is your kde version
[15:18] <BluesKaj> phoenix_, consider yourself lucky .. alot of ppl are still suffering from poor support for their nVidia cards
[15:18] <phoenix_> BluesKaj: do you know that kubuntu droped support for some old hardwares
[15:18] <BluesKaj> yes
[15:19] <sebersole> ugh it bombs again
[15:19] <sebersole> does anyone use NM in KDE with vpnc?
[15:19] <sebersole> for the life of me i cannot get it to work
[15:20] <phoenix_> BluesKaj: before 10.04 , i had to reinstall by nvidia driver dor every kernel upgrade
[15:20] <sebersole> attempting to initiate the vpn just craches the kde applet
[15:20] <BluesKaj> phoenix_,I have a 5yr old pc with ati graphics which barely runs without freezing , even with desktop effects turned off.
[15:21] <phoenix_> BluesKaj: thats great. unfortunately in my friends laptop kdm crashes when i install ati drivers
[15:22] <phoenix_> BluesKaj: sorry misunderstood, thats bad
[15:23] <phoenix_> BluesKaj: linux support for ati cards is poor
[15:26] <cmagina> I am having an issue with maverick and the headphone jack on a lenovo t410s. Its a dual purpose jack, acts as a headphone and mic port. Audio works fine through the speakers, but plugging in a pair of headphones doesn't change the audio to them.
[15:27] <cmagina> And there is no audio coming out of them. Forum searching didn't show anyone having a similar issue with the t410s
[15:27] <sebersole> vpn in kubuntu, what it the recommended way?  afaict the tray thingy simply does not work.  so that leaves kvpnc and the plasma widget
[15:28] <BluesKaj> phoenix_, back in kubuntu 9.04 I had great ati support ..I could run all kinds of fancy GUI settings without probs using the fglrx driver including compiz-fusion and emerald ...it was great , I should revert :)
[15:28] <sebersole> i had good luck getting connected via kvpnc, but had dns issues
[15:28] <sebersole> and i never got the widget to work
[15:29] <phoenix_> BluesKaj: was it stable with kdm?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> phoenix_, yes ..very
[15:29] <phoenix_> BluesKaj: my friend's kdm crashes when i use fglrx
[15:30] <phoenix_> BluesKaj: but i didnt try compiz-fusion
[15:30] <BluesKaj> cmagina, check alsamixer , make sure your ctrls are unmuted and turned up
[15:30] <BluesKaj> phoenix_, which kubuntu ?
[15:31] <phoenix_> BluesKaj: i think 9.10
[15:34] <BluesKaj> sebersole, what are you trying to do , maybe a different vnc client/server?
[15:36] <sebersole> connect to a vpn
[15:36] <sebersole> actually not able to get kvpnc working now either
[15:36] <BluesKaj> sebersole, maybe you should portmap the IPs in /etc/hosts.allow  , for example under portmap list the IPs you want to have access on your network like this , ALL:192.168.x.x
[15:37] <sebersole> BluesKaj: dont follow
[15:38] <sebersole> i work remote and am trying to connect to my companies vpn
[15:38] <sebersole> which is vpnc based
[15:38] <sebersole> it works fine under gnome
[15:38] <sebersole> but i am never able to get it to work in kde
[15:39] <sebersole> in gnome it works using the nm-applet
[15:39] <sebersole> i set up the vpn/vpnc connection in nm-applet and then seelct it via the tray app to connect
[15:40] <sebersole> the same fails on kde
[15:40] <sebersole> using the kde network manager tray app thing
[15:41] <sebersole> in fedora kde they recommend users totally uninstall all kde network manager stuff
[15:41] <BluesKaj> sebersole, remove the network-manager-kde and install the gnome-network-manager ..see if that works for you
[15:41] <sebersole> and use the gnome nm-applet
[15:42] <sebersole> haha
[15:42] <sebersole> :)
[15:46] <BluesKaj> sebersole, there' no point in using apps that don't work whether they're kde or gtk ..I still prefer synaptic for app references ..I even use it sometimes
[15:48] <BluesKaj> Im using kde cuz i prefer the "look" and layout , but I'm not afraid to muse gnome apps if need be.
[15:48] <BluesKaj> err muse=use
[15:53] <volodya> sebersole: what vpn exactly? Openvpn works fine via network management applet (but I'm on maverick)
[15:54] <sebersole> vpnc
[15:55] <volodya> oh, that might be trickier that openvpn, so no further comments
[16:00] <cmagina> v@cu0l3
[16:04] <sobczyk> hi, how to connect to manually created ad hoc net? I created it in defult network manager, but it's not visible in possible connections
[16:05] <moetunes> !ics | sobczyk this might give a clue
[16:13] <sobczyk> moetunes: I know how to share, I don't know how to connect to adhoc if it's not used before
[16:14] <nasrullah> hi
[16:14] <moetunes> sobczyk:  I've tried to do that - I just know the link :]
[16:15] <nasrullah> my kmail cannot receive e-mails only sending ..why?
[16:20] <nasrullah> any help ??
[16:20] <phoenix_> nasrullah: hi
[16:20] <phoenix_> nasrullah: yahoo?
[16:20] <nasrullah> phoenix hi
[16:21] <phoenix_> nasrullah: does sending and receiving of mails works with anyother mail client?
[16:22] <nasrullah> yes
[16:22] <phoenix_> nasrullah: check to see if ssl is need for your email server
[16:22] <nasrullah> i did try but no way
[16:22] <phoenix_> nasrullah: who is the email service provider
[16:22] <nasrullah> sabily.org
[16:25] <phoenix_> nasrullah: what is the email server url?
[16:26] <nasrullah> webmail.kuwaitnet.net
[16:29] <phoenix_> nasrullah: where did you get this url?
[17:05] <tech_> hello?
[17:05] <fornitani> hi
[17:06] <tech_> anyone available to help a total linux noob?
[17:06] <fornitani> sure. what do you need?
[17:07] <tech_> i just installed kubuntu on a workstation in order to test it
[17:07] <tech_> and i wanted to install thunderbird as my email client
[17:07] <tech_> so i downloaded it
[17:07] <tech_> and then selected extract
[17:07] <tech_> but don't know how to install it!
[17:08] <fornitani> applications in linux are usually installed as "packages"
[17:08] <tech_> i've spent more time than i care to discuss looking through forums for an answer
[17:08] <fornitani> you need to go that little blue "K" in the left bottom
[17:08] <tech_> they are talking way over my heqad
[17:08] <tech_> head
[17:08] <tech_> mention of "synaptics" and other things i  apparently don't have...
[17:09] <tech_> sorry...just frustrated...
[17:09] <tech_> ok the little blue k...
[17:09] <fornitani> Well, in Kubuntu it is the "KPackagekit"
[17:09] <fornitani> After clicking the little K, type "kpack" in the search box in the upper part
[17:10] <fornitani> Can you see it?
[17:10] <tech_> ahhh ok i found the kpackagekit
[17:10] <tech_> earlier
[17:10] <tech_> and selected updates
[17:10] <tech_> which is currently running
[17:10] <tech_> it says updating packages..
[17:10] <fornitani> Hm...I guess you'll have to wait the update
[17:11] <tech_> ok just finished...now it wants a restart but that can wait
[17:11] <fornitani> ok
[17:11] <fornitani> So, in Kpackagekit, just search for "thunderbird", without quotes
[17:11] <tech_> oh wow...pages of thunderbird icons
[17:12] <fornitani> have you found it?
[17:12] <tech_> i've found pages of thunderbird icons by searching for thunderbird
[17:13] <fornitani> You need the one whose name is only "thunderbird"
[17:14] <fornitani> There's an icon, a description and underneath that a name
[17:14] <fornitani> maybe "thunderbird-de", etc
[17:14] <tech_> there isn't one
[17:14] <fornitani> You need the one named only "thunderbird"
[17:14] <tech_> ohhhhh ok i was looking at description i guess
[17:15] <fornitani> If you want a quicker, but not so quick understandable way, you can open the application "konsole" and paste this: "sudo aptitude install thunderbird
[17:15] <fornitani> " without quotes
[17:15] <tech_> ok i have 2 that say only thunderbird
[17:16] <fornitani> hm...there's a number after it, right?
[17:16] <tech_> the descriptions on both say "mail/news client with rss and integrated spam filter support"
[17:16] <fornitani> yes, that one
[17:16] <tech_> they look identical...no number
[17:16] <fornitani> hover the mouse over them
[17:17] <fornitani> mine shows "thunderbird 3.0.4...." and also "thunderbird 3.0.8..."
[17:17] <tech_> yes
[17:17] <fornitani> install the 3.0.8
[17:17] <tech_> and amd64 at the end
[17:17] <fornitani> yes
[17:18] <tech_> ok i selected it...it turned blue
[17:18] <fornitani> right, now click "apply"
[17:18] <tech_> apply is grayed out
[17:19] <tech_> wow and suddenly it "ungrayed"
[17:19] <fornitani> ah, first you need to select the arrow at the right side of the package
[17:19] <tech_> ok i clicked apply
[17:19] <tech_> it's loading
[17:19] <fornitani> =)
[17:19] <fornitani> that's it
[17:19] <fornitani> are you using kubuntu version 10.04?
[17:20] <tech_> 10.04.1 yes
[17:21] <fornitani> hm, I suggest you to install the package "software-center"
[17:21] <fornitani> it is easier to understand than the Kpackage version that ships with kubuntu 10.04
[17:21] <tech_> i love the idea of linux in general & i would like to migrate away from windows eventually but i run a network here & cannot migrate until i fully understand this OS
[17:22] <tech_> software-center? what does it do?
[17:22] <fornitani> it is also a way to install those "packages" (applications), but is easier to understand, many say
[17:23] <fornitani> So it will free you time to discover important things, other than waste time finding out how to install something =)
[17:24] <tech_> thank you!
[17:24] <fornitani> You're welcome! =)
[17:24] <tech_> btw it currently says "simulating the install...loading cache"
[17:24] <fornitani> I'm glad I could help, this is my very first time here at kubuntu irc
[17:25] <tech_> wow really? me too
[17:25] <fornitani> Hm, I'm afraid I can't help at this message, I've never seen it
[17:25] <fornitani> There's not some kind of time counter, etc?
[17:26] <fornitani> Maybe if you wait a bit it will disappear
[17:26] <tech_> i was getting frustrated...i didn't have time to read through the forums for hours
[17:27] <tech_> yes it seems to be progressing
[17:28] <fornitani> Yes, at first it was a little frustrating for me too. But now I use Ubuntu/Kubuntu for more than 2 years and can use it with (almost) no problems
[17:29] <tech_> i know it just takes awhile to learn a new system
[17:29] <tech_> it took me awhile to learn windows years ago too
[17:30] <fornitani> Hm, maybe all systems are easier nowadays, even Windows
[17:31] <fornitani> But I think Linux (especially Ubuntu and similars) has become easier than others OSes
[17:31] <tech_> i installed regular ubuntu on my laptop at home but i have not had any time to explore it so i installed kubuntu on this workstation here at work so i'll have more time to learn it
[17:31] <tech_> once i become familiar w it i want to install the server version & test that as well
[17:31] <fornitani> Yes, the learning curve is minimal. You just need to adapt to where to find menus and such things
[17:32] <fornitani> Installation of programs, etc is a lot easier than windows
[17:32] <fornitani> No viruses and such trouble, also =)
[17:34] <tech_> i am searching for software center now
[17:35] <tech_> wow really?
[17:35] <tech_> i was wondering about that
[17:35] <tech_> i wondered which AV software to run on this machine
[17:38] <fornitani> there's no need to run those because of the security system (you need to allow the program to do something, typing your password. Also, the programs are usually downloaded from oficial sources - like the one you've just downloaded)
[17:47] <tech_> that's good news
[17:47] <Neurotrophin> Where does Quassel store its IRC chat logs?
[17:47] <Neurotrophin> Konversation let you get them from a menu option..
[17:47] <BluesKaj> !logs
[17:51] <Neurotrophin> BluesKaj: thanks.. that's really useful
[17:51] <mfraz74> http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/projects/1/wiki/Quassel_Logging
[17:52] <BluesKaj> Neurotrophin, I've used them to find a command from a previous visit which I forgot to copy to my cli text file
[17:53] <Neurotrophin> BluesKaj: sure.. actually, I am working on a chatbot script for kubuntu trouble resolution and need example problems w/ conversations..
[17:54] <Neurotrophin> at http://thinkmosaic.com  -- I have different little test script in there every day..  so it's a different personality every day.. almost blank, at present.
[17:54] <Neurotrophin> when done, it will be wiki-like, you can chat a bit.. if you don't like it's responses then you can click on Edit to edit its logic..
[17:55] <Neurotrophin> like wikipedia, ony conversation topics instead of articles
[17:56] <BluesKaj> well, be prepared to do some editing then because some of the advice isn't accurate :)
[18:01] <yhtomit> hey everyone... anyone know what happened to kdevelop?
[18:01] <yhtomit> is it just me or is it no longer in the repos?
[18:03] <jbrouhard> hey folks.. where is the Update manager in kubuntu 8.04 ?  I totally forgot where it was as I haven't used Kubuntu in a while..
[18:13] <altrortla> need help ... trying kubuntu 10.04 on a thinkcentre 8183-cto after a while black screen appears and nothing is possible to do... after few attempt (using F6 option ... i have disabled all option) live CD starts, but when it finish to charge the services restart to charge service again ... i don't know what it is
[18:15] <altrortla> no tips?
[18:19] <fornitani> You can disable apic, using the boot option "noapic"
[18:19] <fornitani> I don't remember well, but I think the first screen of the live CD offers the "other boot options"
[18:20] <fornitani> There's start Kubuntu, install, etc
[18:20] <altrortla> yes there's
[18:20] <altrortla> i've just try to install
[18:20] <fornitani> Try booting with those other options
[18:20] <altrortla> ok
[18:21] <fornitani> IF everything works, you cand run in liveCD mode and then install
[18:22] <altrortla> yes ... it goes in liveCD but 1) black screen 2) and reboot service and then 1) and then 2) continuosly
[18:25] <fornitani> maybe a burning problem at the CD...if you have the .iso, you can make a liveUSB
[18:25] <dasKreech> Can.. curses. Gone
[18:27] <haxd4x> awfully quite..
[18:27] <haxd4x> quiet*
[18:29] <AltrortlA> I have set noapci but the result is the same
[18:29]  * dasKreech sets up somebody the bomb
[18:31] <fornitani> Weird..is there more than one HD or something similar?
[18:32] <fornitani> Once I had problems installing because of the router. Then I disconnected its cables and tried again and everything went smoothly =)
[18:32] <AltrortlA> fornitani: no, a single HD but a read somewhere that there's some setting for IBM and Thinkcentre
[18:33] <AltrortlA> fornitani: and then PC is stand alone
[18:34] <AltrortlA> fornitani: this also contains kubuntu 7.10, but now is time to adjourn
[18:35] <fornitani> Hm, I'm searching something about it. Let's see if I can find some useful tip...just a sec =)
[18:37] <AltrortlA> ok
[18:38] <johannes_> hi, is there a list of services I can announce with avahi?
[18:49] <dasKreech> johannes_: Hmm?
[18:50] <neha__> Is it possible to play two songs, where one songs sound is directed to head phones and another's to speaker.
[18:50] <johannes_> daap or .local .smb .afp seem to be possible but what else?
[18:51] <fornitani> AltrortlA: sorry, but untill now, I haven't found anything useful :(
[18:51] <dasKreech> neha__: with Pulseaudio (in theory) yes
[18:53] <fornitani> neha__: try setting pavucontrol up
[18:54] <neha__> fornitani: where to find thee control
[18:57] <neha__> dasKreech: thanks, in case if you already have any links on how to do it, please post it here.
[18:58] <fornitani_> neha__: sudo aptitude install pavucontrol   , and then run pavucontrol on konsole
[18:58] <fornitani_> neha__: you need also to have phonon-backend-gstreamer / pulseaudio, if I am right
[19:02] <neha__> fornitani_: done, but where to do the configuration
 in the tab "output devices", then try changing devices, etc. Be careful, though =)
[19:03] <science> Hi
[19:03] <science> Testing
[19:04] <science> :/
[19:04] <science> i <3 Ubuntu
 you may use two separate players, then order each to use different outputs
[19:15] <neha__> fornitani_: thanks, i all do it when i go home.
[19:17] <fornitani_> neha__: hope it works =)
[19:56] <effie_jayx> hello all
[19:56] <effie_jayx> just upgrade to kubuntu 10.10 netbook edition
[19:57] <effie_jayx> I have an issue with knetworkmanager not showing up in the system tray
[19:57] <effie_jayx> is this the right channel for that kind of support?
[19:57] <effie_jayx> or is there a #kubuntu+1?
[20:00] <drbobb> hello, is there something broken about kde's network manager applet?
[20:00] <drbobb> I have both gnome & kde installed (Lucid), and my wifi comes up fine under gnome, but not with kde
[20:01] <effie_jayx> anyone else having the same issue in maverick
[20:02] <effie_jayx> #kubuntu+1
[20:02] <Pici> effie_jayx: #ubuntu+1 is the proper channel for all Maverick issues.
[20:04] <effie_jayx> Pici: eventhough it is a kde issue?
[20:04] <Pici> effie_jayx: Yes.
[20:04] <effie_jayx> thanks
[20:11] <Glade> Hi, this is maybe not the best place to ask, but if anyone can help, that would be great... I upgraded to kubuntu 10.10 rc just now, and now when I tried wine, all my previously working windows games stopped working
[20:11] <Glade> All say "insert game cd" or something
[20:11] <Glade> previously I had arranged them all so I could play them straight off the hard drive, worked fine in 10.04
[20:11] <Glade> Is this more of a wine thing? A changed setting somewhere? Or something that let cd checks work in previous versions but now changed?
[20:40] <Renovatio> hi there, does anybody know why k3b doesn't find 'normalize-audio' altought it is correctly installed?
[21:03] <rork_> Glade: questions about 10.10 can be asked in #ubuntu+1, you may also try at the wine channel ofcourse
[21:19] <drbobb> what do I need to install in order to activate support for Java applets in rekonq?
[21:22] <drbobb> will kubuntu-restricted-extras do the trick?
[21:25] <BluesKaj> drbobb, yes it should
[21:26] <drbobb> BluesKaj: thx, I'll find out in a moment - when the install is done :)
[21:26] <BluesKaj> drbobb, altho I haven't tried rekonq in a while
[21:27] <drbobb> it looks pretty slick
[21:28] <drbobb> but no, applets seem not to work
[21:28] <drbobb> java support is checked in settings of course
[21:30] <drbobb> and no obvious way in sight to find out what went wrong
[21:32] <drbobb> yeah and that's one thing I hate about a lot of modern software:
[21:33] <drbobb> there's a tendency to make stuff fail silently, and provide no diagnostics
[21:40] <dasKreech> drbobb: Actually jump in #rekonq and poke them about java
[21:41] <drbobb> ah there's a #rekonq - good news
[21:41] <FlameTai1> Can someone help me? I'm trying to install Kubuntu-desktop but it's saying it needs certain repositories to be added and enabled?
[21:42] <dasKreech> FlameTai1: can you pastebin that?
[21:43] <FlameTai1> dasKreech: http://pastebin.org/64869
[21:43] <FlameTai1> ?
[21:43] <FlameTai1> lol
[21:44] <dasKreech> FlameTai1: :-) Wrong!!!
[21:44] <FlameTai1> .....LOL
[21:44] <dasKreech> FlameTai1: http://pastebin.org/64893
[21:45] <FlameTai1> dasKreech: You are so confusing me!!!! lol.
[21:46] <dasKreech> FlameTai1: What's the error you are getting can you pastebin that error?
[21:47] <FlameTai1> Yeah one sec
[21:47] <FlameTai1> Give me a few it's on my friends laptop and he's installing ubuntu-netbook right now
[21:51] <FlameTai1> dasKreech: Nvm there were a few package files we were missing
[21:52] <dasKreech> Uh huh :)
[21:52] <dasKreech> :)
[21:52] <FlameTai1> Shush xD
[21:59] <drbobb> is there a metapackage I need to install in order to try out the kubuntu netbook interface?
[21:59] <drbobb> along the lines of kubuntu-desktop etc.
[22:01] <drbobb> kubuntu-plasma-netbook?
[22:04] <markit> hi, any hope that 10.04 will have 4.5.2 pakages and future 4.5.x upgrades? I don't want to upgrade to 10.10 in my ltsp server just to upgrade KDE
[22:04] <markit> but I would love to have fixes
[22:09] <dasKreech> markit: I think officially currently it's no. But they don't have any restrictions of someone bringin them to 10.04
[22:10] <dasKreech> Someone does have working KDE3 packages on 10.04 for example
[22:10] <markit> dasKreech: I know, but I'm not able to do, and would love to be "ufficially" supported for sercurity reasons
[22:10] <markit> (trusted source)
[22:10] <dasKreech> :-)
[22:10] <dasKreech> In theory the 4.5.2 would be "unofficial" in any case
[22:11] <markit> sure,but more official than "mr. unknown" ones :)
[22:12] <dasKreech> The "mr Unknown" ones are quite likely to be the same guys doing it
[22:13] <dasKreech> If you would like to see if you can help at least jump in to #kubuntu-devel and see if anyone is interested in having it happen
[22:14] <markit> dasKreech: I'm going to sleep now, I feel bad (cold), but I will try tomorrow, thanks for the tip
[22:20] <dasKreech> Mamarok: ok
[22:20] <dasKreech> Whoops
[23:21] <iNfRaC00L> What could be wrong with my KMix? It's only volume-bar there while I know there were more; for pcm, line-in, mic....
[23:22] <iNfRaC00L> Now it says that device is Internal Audio Analog Stereo but it should be Intel HDA Audio
[23:23] <iNfRaC00L> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/6hQszGc1
[23:23] <iNfRaC00L> I have sound (system, movies, flash) but I need other controls as well.  Is there a way I could make KMix to reconfigure itself, or should I purge- reinstall it?
[23:24] <Se7en> iNfRaC00L: are you using ALSA ?
[23:25] <dasKreech> iNfRaC00L: I have two machines one won't work with internal Audio Analog the other only supports the real sound card
[23:25] <dasKreech>  kinda strange :)
[23:25] <iNfRaC00L> it says Pulse  Audio Sound  System
[23:25] <iNfRaC00L> but i have some alsa stuff installed
[23:26] <iNfRaC00L> I don't know how it happened ... maybe wine
[23:27] <iNfRaC00L> restarting is no cure
[23:27] <Se7en> iNfRaC00L: try ALSA instead
[23:28] <Se7en> I didnt mean installing ALSA I meant using ALSA as your sound plugin instead os PulseAudio
[23:28] <iNfRaC00L> but I cannot choose
[23:29] <iNfRaC00L> it's  only Pulse there
[23:29] <Se7en> open up the Terminal and enter alsamixer
[23:29] <iNfRaC00L> that seems to be ok
[23:30] <iNfRaC00L> there is  PCM, MIC ,LINE
[23:30] <Se7en> is that what you need to see ?
[23:30] <iNfRaC00L> yes
[23:30] <Se7en> alright then
[23:30] <iNfRaC00L> well thanx
[23:31] <Se7en> anytime
[23:31] <iNfRaC00L> so i guess KMix is history for now
[23:32] <Se7en> you actually CAN restore the controls to it by choosing ALSA as your plugin (I think )
[23:33] <Se7en> not sure how to do that in Kubuntu though
[23:33] <Se7en> System:    Host ViperousVirus Kernel 2.6.31-14-generic i686 (32 bit) Distro Linux Mint 8 Helena - Main Edition
[23:33] <djustice> if the kcm doesnt list alsa, and only pulse, i think that might be a missing phonon-alsa or sth.
[23:33]  * Se7en shrugs
[23:33] <iNfRaC00L> checking..
[23:43] <iNfRaC00L> couldn't find phonon-alsa or similar. phonon is installed. do you think dpkg --reconfigure alsa might help?
[23:47] <iNfRaC00L> no, that doesn't exist :D
[23:47] <Se7en> iNfRaC00L: checking my Mint KDE box for you
[23:52] <iNfRaC00L> i appreciate
[23:59] <Se7en> iNfRaC00L: this may sound a bit obvious but .. have you check the : Sound notification icon > Mixer >Settings > Configure Channels ?
[23:59]  * Se7en has to get more familiar wth KDE


[10:02] <popey> mcphail, ugh
[10:27] <popey> mcphail, how many things from proc does it want? I mean, if it's just /proc/cmdline, perhaps we can fake that :)
[11:34] <bartbes> mcphail: you might want to filter on something like /home anyway
[11:34] <bartbes> not being able to open /dev/shm or /dev/urandom isn't fun either
[11:36] <bartbes> unless you want to have a full sysroot in ~/.local/share ;)
[12:07] <popey> bartbes, mcphail to be fair, for some of these we could lobby the security team to allow them, as it seems reasonable to access things like urandom and cmdline to me
[12:13] <mcphail> I've simply taken a naive approach just now of chucking everything it asks for under the fakeroot, but a lot of these could just be filtered, I'm sure. I'll have a think if there is a generic way to deal with /proc/cmdline. I'll have a look again next week. Busy weekend at work coming up.
[12:18] <bartbes> why would it need /proc/cmdline anyway..
[12:30] <mcphail> bartbes: don't know. Some of these game frameworks load different config files if they are called with different names: e.g. gemrb loads bg1.conf if you have symlinked the name bg1 to the gemrb executable. I presume scummvm (which is what we are working with just now) does the same thing
[13:11] <popey> renatu, i still can't get sync to work anymore - i get this popup all the time and no matter what I do, it never fixes it (i re-sign into google) http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2016-01-14-131037.png
[13:16] <renatu> popey, try to move your "~/.config/syncevolution" to "~/.config/syncevolution.old", delete you syncevolution cache: "rm -rf ~/.cache/syncevolution", reboot the phone and try to sync again
[13:16] <popey> renatu, okay, will try that
[13:19] <bartbes> mcphail: /proc/cmdline is the kernel command line
[13:20] <bartbes> oh, nvm, it's /proc/<pid>/cmdline
[13:25] <jdstrand> popey: I don't have any problem with /dev/urandom (indeed, it is already allowed by the base abstraction). /proc/pid/cmdline is an info leak
[13:27] <popey> hmm
[13:28] <bartbes> even if it's /proc/self/cmdline?
[14:50] <mhall119> DanChapman: I'm supposed to give a convergence demo at UbuCon next week, and popey hinted that you might have an experimental build of Dekko with convergence features that I could use
[14:50] <popey> :)
[14:51] <ioanm> mhall119, your going to UbuCon lucky u
[14:53] <mhall119> ioanm: I'm helping organize it :) It'll be 4 days of me running around like a headless chicken
[14:54] <DanChapman> mhall119, I do! :-D I've just got to go and get the kids from school. I'll give you a ping when i'm back
[14:55] <mhall119> DanChapman: thanks!
[14:56]  * mhall119 really just hopes to replace Thunderbird on his desktop


[16:32]  * dsmythies realizes that we changed from standard time to daylight savings time last month, and so the doc team meeting is not for another hour.
[17:31] <dsmythies> #startmeeting
[17:31] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Apr  7 17:31:12 2015 UTC.  The chair is dsmythies. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[17:31] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[17:31] <dsmythies> #chair dsmythies GunnarHj
[17:31] <meetingology> Current chairs: GunnarHj dsmythies
[17:31] <dsmythies> Who is here for the doc team meeting?
[17:31] <bregma> o/
[17:32] <GunnarHj> o/
[17:32] <dsmythies> GunnarHJ: I made you a chair person
[17:32] <GunnarHj> dsmythies: Saw it. You are fast today. :)
[17:33] <dsmythies> we will wait a moment for ian
[17:34] <dsmythies> O.K. ian is here. let's start.
[17:35] <dsmythies> Just to report on some stuff rraom the last month: We did point releases of the 12.04 and 14.04 serverguides.
[17:35] <dsmythies> And Gunnar has been getting 15.04 desktop guide ready for release day.
[17:36] <GunnarHj> Except for the translations (due Thursday)
[17:37] <dsmythies> Anybody want to comment of any other activites from last month?
[17:37] <dsmythies> O.K. moving on...
[17:38] <dsmythies> from old actions, Hannie isn't here, so we'll leave that one. Gunnar, care to comment on desktop slidehsow?
[17:39] <GunnarHj> Not much to say. It will be done in vivid+.
[17:39] <dsmythies> ... just reading the bug report... Oh, ya. O.K.
[17:40] <dsmythies> other old actions done, so let's go to new business.
[17:41] <dsmythies> Desktop and Unity 8: I know nothing about setting up a new project. Nor do I have the capacity to take on such a project.
[17:42] <bregma> I have an interest in contributing (and I cna probably set up a project) but I am not a writer
[17:42] <bregma> also, the Unity 8 desktop will be in flux for the next several months
[17:43] <bregma> but I would like to see a start on the guide (or equivalent) earlier rather than later
[17:43] <GunnarHj> bregma: What does "in flux" mean?
[17:43] <dsmythies> before we go into a new project, should we access if there is enought interest from people willing to contribute?
[17:43] <bregma> I do not believe the final appearance (or event functionality) is fully decided yet
[17:44] <GunnarHj> ok.
[17:44] <dsmythies> assess instead access
[17:44] <GunnarHj> As I mentioned on list, my main concern is the seemingly lack of contributors in the team.
[17:45] <dsmythies> Agree.
[17:45] <bregma> I think there are some people in Canonical's Desktop team who can be tasked with making some contributions, but none of them are writers
[17:46] <bregma> I do believe there is buy-in there, though
[17:46] <dsmythies> bregma: Please know that I am not a writer either. I just seem to have stumbled into this roll.
[17:47] <bregma> OK
[17:47] <GunnarHj> bregma: If you look at the desktop branch, you can see that the number of contributors lately is *very* limited. It's kind of a crisis.
[17:48] <bregma> I don't really want to see a new desktop environment rolled out without some sort of guide, so my question is:  how can we drum up enough contribution interest from the community?
[17:48] <dsmythies> We have fought with that question for years.
[17:48] <bregma> indeed
[17:49] <GunnarHj> Possibly the fact that it is a new desktop env. will make a difference - but I'm not sure.
[17:49] <bregma> the fact that the desktop has been fairly unchanged for several years means there hasn't been a lot for contributors to do
[17:50] <bregma> perhaps getting Canonical's community team to help drum up interest through their usual social media stuff would be a good start?
[17:50] <GunnarHj> When Unity 7 was new, Jeremy Bicha did an amazing amount of work. But wasn't he a Canonical emploee at the time?
[17:51] <dsmythies> O.K. Sounds like a significant project. It will need a champion.
[17:52] <dsmythies> bregma: you willing to take the lead?
[17:52] <bregma> I am willing to volunteer, but I have no idea about any doc development workflow, so I would need guidance with that
[17:53] <dsmythies> We have spent significant time of recent getting our wiki pages up to date.
[17:53] <GunnarHj> bregma: We can certainly help with the workflow part. It would be great if you could announce the need on the list as a starter.
[17:54] <bregma> sure, sounds good
[17:55] <dsmythies> for doc workflow, suggest the you start by learning how to work within the exisiting desktop help enviroment.
[17:56] <dsmythies> what is the timeline for this unity 8?
[17:56] <bregma> actually, I'm familiar with that, as far as building docs in various formats locally and getting changes in, but the rest is only a vague handwaving thing in my mind
[17:56] <GunnarHj> bregma: Is the plan to create a totally separate set of docs for Unity 8?
[17:57] <GunnarHj> bregma: Should it be distributed as a package, or only on the web?
[17:57] <bregma> I would go for a totally separate doc, yes, since for at least a while you can have either or both installed on your system at the same time
[17:57] <bregma> and the timeline for replacing Unity 7 with Unity 8 is not yet clear
[17:58] <GunnarHj> Ok, that speaks for basically creating a skeleton branch based on the ubuntu-docs branch.
[17:58] <pmatulis> hi guys
[17:58] <dsmythies> Oh, so eventually the current dektop help will not continue.
[17:58] <bregma> yeah, that was my first thought
[17:59] <dsmythies> pmatulis: Hi. we are on Unity 8 stuff.
[17:59] <pmatulis> ok, sorry for being late
[17:59] <bregma> yes, eventually I expect Unity 7 will not be included in newer versions of Ubuntu, so neither will the docs
[17:59] <dsmythies> GunnarHj: Sound like the new stuff will need to be a package.
[18:00] <bregma> is that how the Unity 7 docs get installed today, as a package?
[18:00] <GunnarHj> bregma: Yes.
[18:00] <GunnarHj> bregma: (and on the web)
[18:01] <bregma> then separate guides in separate packages is the easiest approach, and something I know how to do
[18:02] <GunnarHj> bregma: For Unity 7 we are using Mallard.
[18:03] <dsmythies> bregma: can I set action for you to drum up interest and detail some sort of project plan? The timeline is future sometime T.B.D.
[18:04] <bregma> dsmythies, yes please, I will take repsonsibility and the timeline will be to target an initial version for release in 15.10
[18:05] <dsmythies> #action bregma to stimulate interest in unity 8 dektop help guide.
[18:05] <meetingology> ACTION: bregma to stimulate interest in unity 8 dektop help guide.
[18:05] <dsmythies> #action bregma to create project plan for unity 8 dektop help guide.
[18:05] <meetingology> ACTION: bregma to create project plan for unity 8 dektop help guide.
[18:06] <dsmythies> bregma: I think you will find an initial target of 15.10 aggressive.
[18:06] <imnichol> bregma, I'm not incredibly knowledgeable about this process, but if you need help with anything I'd be willing to assist.
[18:07] <bregma> thanks
[18:08] <dsmythies> are we done with unity 8 discussion?
[18:08] <GunnarHj> Think so.
[18:10] <dsmythies> I will try to have 15.04 preliminary help.ubuntu.com content by early next week. I always like to do preliminaty first, so as to identify surprises, so that release day is smooth.
[18:10]  * bregma nods
[18:11] <GunnarHj> dsmythies: Is "10.10" in the agenda a typo?
[18:12] <dsmythies> No. 10.10 EOL (Serverguide) is end of April.
[18:12] <dsmythies> the plan is to move to it once 15.04 final is done.
[18:12] <dsmythies> Oh. I mean 10.04
[18:13] <GunnarHj> dsmythies: Thought so. ;)
[18:14] <dsmythies> I'll fix agenda later.
[18:14] <dsmythies> pmatulis: I mentioned the point releases of serverguide earlier.
[18:15] <dsmythies> Anything from serverguide or manual or wiki?
[18:16] <GunnarHj> Let's move to the meeting time.
[18:17] <dsmythies> pmatulis: Does the change to daylight savings time affect your preferred meeting time?
[18:17] <pmatulis> dsmythies: hi
[18:17] <pmatulis> dsmythies: in a meeting :) .  playing hooky here
[18:18] <pmatulis> dsmythies: so if it is 30 min earlier *now* i will be good
[18:18] <pmatulis> dsmythies: but yeah, in the winter i would be 1 hour behind
[18:18] <pmatulis> dsmythies: so i guess that mean 90 minutes earlier
[18:19] <pmatulis> dsmythies: or did i get that backwards?  :)
[18:20] <dsmythies> O.K. I am confused. so are you saying 17:00 would be bteer for you? or are you saying 16:00 would be better for you? Do others have input?
[18:20] <GunnarHj> I'm flexible.
[18:20] <dsmythies> I'm flexible.
[18:21] <pmatulis> dsmythies: 16:00
[18:21] <dsmythies> O.K. that is 8:00 a.m. my time, which is fine.
[18:22] <dsmythies> and in winter that would be 7:00 a.m. my time, which is still fine.
[18:24] <pmatulis> alright, action me to change the wiki?
[18:24] <dsmythies> I believe pleia2 is also on the west coast of North America, and 7 might be a little early for her.
[18:24] <dsmythies> O.K. ;ets try it.
[18:24] <dsmythies> O.K. lets try it.
[18:25] <dsmythies> #action pmatulis: adjust wiki and banner meeting times.
[18:25] <meetingology> ACTION: pmatulis: adjust wiki and banner meeting times.
[18:26] <dsmythies> O.K. anything else anybody?
[18:27] <pleia2> I am west coast, but I struggle to attend these meetings anyway, so please do whatever works for all of you
[18:27] <GunnarHj> I don't have anything else. (Already in another IRC meeting.)
[18:27] <dsmythies> pleia2: O.K. thanks for chiming in.
[18:28] <dsmythies> O.K> I'll end the meeting.
[18:28] <dsmythies> #endmeeting
[18:28] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Apr  7 18:28:36 2015 UTC.
[18:28] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting-2/2015/ubuntu-meeting-2.2015-04-07-17.31.moin.txt