[07:10] <bjb1959> I have been having lock up problems with gutsy and a few programs locking the system up and have determined that it is due to aiglx. what is the easiest way to enable xgl instead
[07:10] <Scunizi> Google earth now has "Sky" really cool.
[07:10] <wickedsun> I'm having issues with recompiling the kernel on a remote computer.. if someone has time to help, I have a .avi of the console booting.. I've been at it for the past 2 days :(
[07:10] <RivaeAerya> sense: yeah but then i lose EVERY setting.. and i have everything set up now
[07:10] <sense> RivaeAerya: may be there is a better method, like skel files present somewhere in filesystem
[07:10] <steve> The_Joe_: that error meant your wifi card has the broadcom chipset and it isn't working
[07:11] <sense> RivaeAerya: Check the files inside .kde and .qt may be they give some clue
[07:11] <The_Joe_> steve: I think I better try my adapter
[07:11] <kitche> !xgl | bjb1959
[07:11] <ubotu> bjb1959: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:11] <masko> ugheigrhr
[07:11] <masko> r
[07:11] <masko> h
[07:11] <masko> rhtr
[07:11] <masko> hn
[07:11] <masko> tyghrtjhyj
[07:12] <The_Joe_> steve: It actually finds the network fine
[07:12] <The_Joe_> This is another problem I'm having though
[07:12] <The_Joe_> It fails to connect
[07:12] <NotSure> ok, folks, i use gnome, i need a program to be loaded when the gnome is fully loaded (on startup). How do I do it?
[07:12] <The_Joe_> Ah, ctrl
[07:12] <The_Joe_> Whoops
[07:12] <kitche> NotSure: add it to the startup applications in gconf it shoud be in system in the menu
[07:13] <The_Joe_> Ah, ctrl+alt+f1 displays:
[07:13] <NotSure> kitche, where is gconf?
[07:13] <steve> The_Joe_: are you connected to the router with an ethernet cable?
[07:13] <kitche> NotSure: gconf-editor in a terminal should open it
[07:13] <The_Joe_> ubuntu kernel: [124.191642]  calling WQBA
[07:13] <oliver_g_> NotSure: there should be an editor for the auto-started stuff
[07:13] <peertje888> My dmesg lists the following: ipw2200: ipw2200-bss.fw request_firmware failed: Reason -2, what does this mean and how can I solve it plz?
[07:13] <steve> peertje888: no spam
[07:13] <The_Joe_> And bcm43xx_microcode5.fw not avaliable or not loaded
[07:14] <oliver_g_> NotSure: (look under Menu System -> Settings -> Session)
[07:14] <kitche> peertje888: you need the firmware
[07:14] <The_Joe_> steve: No I'm not, it's wireless
[07:14] <steve> The_Joe_: are you using the ndiswrapper?
[07:14] <The_Joe_> steve: Umm...
[07:14] <The_Joe_> steve: The what? ^^
[07:15] <Leon_home> hello, i am trying to install ubuntu desktop from a live cd , but i get an error msg on the start : bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off ? can someone please help me ?
[07:15] <The_Joe_> steve: I have no idea
[07:15] <asteroid> hi
[07:15] <arang2> guys i have a question that always pops, i used feisty and automatix to get decent fonts on firefox, but im in gutsy now and automatix for gutsy isnt out and for some other reasons im like wary from using automatix again so what could i do to get the same font quality in gutsy
[07:15] <steve> The_Joe_: you are trying to install ubuntu on a box, right?
[07:16] <sense> Leon_home: that means it has not loaded fully, check if the CD you have is proper
[07:16] <The_Joe_> steve: Laptop.
[07:16] <asteroid> on featy which depot add/use to have the "seamonkey" suite (iceape if my info are right) ? thx
[07:16] <MasterShrek> The_Joe_, i can help u get that working, download this file: http://www.mediafire.com/?bqn8x4eancv and extract it to /lib/firmware
[07:16] <asteroid> feasty*
[07:16] <The_Joe_> MasterShrek: As soon as I get past my installation freeze
[07:16] <MasterShrek> The_Joe_, those errorcs about bcm43xx_microcode are just for your wirless card not having firmware
[07:17] <The_Joe_> Which at the moment is my primary problem
[07:17] <MasterShrek> The_Joe_, i know, like i said before try the alternate install cd
[07:17] <NotSure> ok folks, gconf-editor looks like windows registry editor. What key do I have to modify in order to add my program to the startup?
[07:17] <Leon_home> sense: the live cd is good (i already used the cd on other computers)
[07:17] <The_Joe_> I'll give it a shot but Alternate never worked before
[07:18] <oliver_g_> NotSure: (maybe the editor under System -> Settings -> Session is easier)
[07:18] <Zambezi> Is it possible to see when a packages was installed?
[07:18] <sense> Leon_home:can u see the log ? Boot with options 'quiet splash ' removed
[07:19] <Leon_home> sense: i am new at ubuntu can u write me the steps how to  boot with options removed ?
[07:19] <jamesrdorn> Using 7.10 pre-release... I seem to be having troubles with xorg.conf. Seems when I create it or edit it, Xwindows fails to start, and the failsafe screen opens and will create a xorg.conf.failsafe, however the only way to get X windows to start again is to delete xorg.conf*. What's strange is if I use the screen resolution prefrences, it never writes to xorg.conf Does ubuntu use an alt config file to control xwindows prefs?
[07:19] <arang2> guys i have a question that always pops, i used feisty and automatix to get decent fonts on firefox, but im in gutsy now and automatix for gutsy isnt out and for some other reasons im like wary from using automatix again so what could i do to get the same font quality in gutsy
[07:19] <MasterShrek> !gutsy
[07:19] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[07:19] <MasterShrek> !automatix
[07:19] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[07:19] <astro76> Leon_home, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[07:19] <Lerris1> sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst to edit the grub boot menu
[07:20] <Lerris1> don't mess it up, lest booting your computer would be difficult
[07:20] <sense>  Leon_home: When u boot the CD, you get to choose Install , see the grub option which says advanced options
[07:20] <oliver_g_> jamesrdorn: here on my Gutsy system it has an /etc/X11/xorg.conf... but maybe that question is better asked in #ubuntu+1 ?
[07:20] <Ward1983> is there software to do some sort of fake standby? (for lets say if the real standby is not possible)
[07:21] <The_Joe_> Gah my Alternate CD is all messy
[07:21] <jamesrdorn> oliver_g_: my system had one also, but it seems as if it never uses it. ill try the next chan
[07:21] <jamesrdorn> thanks
[07:21] <The_Joe_> Here's hoping, MasterShrek
[07:21] <NotSure> everybody, thanks for your help, i managed to get the program to load when gnome starts, ubuntu rocks!
[07:22] <oliver_g_> The_Joe_: yeah, don't shake the CD too much, or all the bits get messed up ;-)
[07:22] <MasterShrek> lol
[07:22] <The_Joe_> Hee hee
[07:23] <nanuk> hi can someone help me with the fbconsole problem
[07:23] <The_Joe_> Scanning CD-ROM...
[07:23] <theMuss> Hi, moved to ubuntu a couple of weeks ago been having all sorts of problems with my ATI card. Can anyone recomend a good nvidia card. Looking for dual monitors and all the desktop effects etc.???
[07:23] <Luc_> Installing ubuntu wont wipe my hard drive or anything, right?
[07:23] <The_Joe_> Uhhh I got 2 detected Network Hardware stuff here
[07:24] <The_Joe_> Not sure which one I should use for my USB Adapter
[07:24] <The_Joe_> Meh
[07:24] <The_Joe_> Agh crap
[07:24] <The_Joe_> Attemping to find an avaliable wireless network failed
[07:24] <The_Joe_> I'm like 6 inches away from it
[07:25] <Alan> where would the answers to questions asked via apt when installing a package be?  I need to reinstall bcm43xx-fwcutter answering "no" to its download question, but i don't get the question any more
[07:25] <jamescarr> quick! how can I quickly kill multiple processes of the same program??
[07:25] <Alan> killall
[07:25] <The_Joe_> Hum
[07:25] <oliver_g_> killall
[07:25] <The_Joe_> This worries me
[07:25] <jamescarr> THANKS!
[07:25] <The_Joe_> Network Autoconfiguration Failed
[07:26] <Leon_home> sense: the installation crash with error msg "/bin/sh cant access tty...job... " after this line : sd 4:0:0:0 attached scsi generic sg1 type 0
[07:26] <oliver_g_> (/me wonders who wins - the forkbomb or killall?)
[07:26] <kitche> Leon_home: that is a common bug it's all over the forums on how to fix it
[07:26] <Leon_home> kitche: can u give me link plz ?
[07:27] <dickydolittle> hi folks, can anyone help me (linux noob) get ndis_wrapper working properly for wicd? refuses to connect to wpa wireless network!
[07:27] <The_Joe_> It freezes again
[07:27] <The_Joe_> Even on the Alternate CD
[07:27] <The_Joe_> Partitions Formatting 33&
[07:27] <The_Joe_> * 33%
[07:27] <FlyingPoop> what is the best free email server in ubuntu?
[07:28] <The_Joe_> Ah
[07:28] <The_Joe_> It unfroze
[07:28] <Juggernot> evolution?
[07:28] <Cantona> Hi
[07:28] <oliver_g_> Alan: maybe you can try "dpkg-reconfigure bcm43xx-fwcutter" ?
[07:28] <The_Joe_> Y'know MasterShrek
[07:29] <|nero|> nabend
[07:29] <theMuss> Hi, moved to ubuntu a couple of weeks ago been having all sorts of problems with my ATI card. Can anyone recomend a good nvidia card. Looking for dual monitors and all the desktop effects etc.???
[07:29] <The_Joe_> Dunno why I didn't think of this
[07:29] <|nero|> hello every1
[07:29] <|nero|> can any tell me how i can install the rc version of gutsy into my feisty edition?
[07:30] <MasterShrek> theMuss, any newer nvidia card should work fine
[07:30] <dag_> How can I get Adobe Lightroom to work in Ubuntu 7.10?
[07:30] <MasterShrek> !wine
[07:30] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[07:30] <dag_> MasterShrek: It does not work.
[07:30] <Leon_home> sense: do u know how to solve this problem ?
[07:30] <dag_> MasterShrek: It just says I need Windows XP in the installation progress.
[07:31] <theMuss> MasterShrek: thanks
[07:31] <nameless`> nicoulas, ok tu es l
[07:31] <IhateCLI> Hi, I have ubuntu 7.04, can I use my laptops lightscribe feature?
[07:31] <Optimus55> hey how can i disable the automatic ubuntu disk check after 30 mounts? theres a bug that causes it to freeze everytime and i have to boot up with live cd when that happens
[07:31] <MasterShrek> dag_, run it using xp instead of the default 2000
[07:31] <MasterShrek> dag_, wineconfig
[07:31] <MasterShrek> IhateCLI, no
[07:31] <nameless`> nicoulas, ##java tu cliques droits sur ##java et tu fais rejoindre
[07:31] <nicoulas> yep
[07:31] <dag_> MasterShrek: Oh? Thanks man.
[07:31] <MasterShrek> and IhateCLI you need to learn to love cli, its beautiful
[07:32] <jamescarr> okay... the job name is like more than 60,000 characters long
[07:32] <jamescarr> can  I kill a range of process ids?????
[07:32] <jamescarr> I forgot to include the "close on exit" action to my app... so everytime I closed it it stuck around in memory
[07:32] <jamescarr> I now have like 100 instances of my app in memory and my computer is SLOW
[07:32] <peertje888> is there a specific file which has the location of all firmware in it?
[07:32] <jamescarr> quick quick quick
[07:32] <vladi_> hello everyone
[07:32] <astro76> jamescarr, killall programname
[07:32] <vladi_> i have a problem...would anyone be cool enough to help me out?
[07:33] <oliver_g_> jamescarr: according to manpage, killall usually only looks at the first 15 characters of the given name
[07:33] <vladi_> ANYONE? :D
[07:33] <axjv> vladi: Just state your problem.
[07:33] <dag_> In Ubuntu 7.10 as I have the Norwegian language in Gnome and keyboard, under "Places" it says right as "Skrivebord" meaning Desktop in norwegian. But as I click it, it goes to the folder "Desktop" not "Skrivebord" folder linked to the desktop. Confusing, I can't seem to fix this.
[07:33] <vladi_> ok
[07:33] <peertje888> is there a specific file which has the location of all firmware in it?
[07:34] <hhp2k> Can someone help me with Synergy? :(
[07:34] <vladi_> My problem is: I can't open the "Documents and Settings" on the partition where Vista is installed from ubuntu
[07:34] <vladi_> why is that?
[07:34] <Fryguy--> hhp2k: ask a real question
[07:34] <vladi_> all the other directories open normaly
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> !info python-psycopg2 dapper
[07:34] <MasterShrek> !ntfs
[07:34] <ubotu> Package python-psycopg2 does not exist in dapper
[07:34] <muszek> hi... I'm trying to get a proper resolution on Fujitsu Amilo Pro v3515.  When I (re)start X server, the screen goes all messed up for few seconds and then goes login screen.  I can choose either 800x600 or 640x480.  Should be 1280x800.  Any hints?  I didn't find anything on the web.
[07:34] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:34] <axjv> !ntfs : vladi_
[07:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs : vladi_ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <vladi_> ?
[07:34] <IhateCLI> MasterShrek: Ooooh... Are you asking me to elaborate on my hatred of the CLI?
[07:34] <axjv> !ntfs | vladi_
[07:34] <ubotu> vladi_: please see above
[07:35] <vladi_> i told you
[07:35] <vladi_> that the other folders on that partition open normaly
[07:35] <ZiRo`-> can i run ubuntu in a vm on windows or something?
[07:35] <vladi_> only the Documents and Settings
[07:35] <kitche> ZiRo`-: yes
[07:35] <RootSnatch_> hey which do you guys like better, banshee or amarok?
[07:35] <MasterShrek> IhateCLI, yes
[07:35] <vladi_> seem like it's empty?!
[07:35] <hhp2k> Fryguy--: Well, I have a million. It just refuses to work. QuickSynergy and Synergy are installed, all the libraries, dependencies, and development files are installed, and everything is online and ready, but it just won't.. work.
[07:35] <vadas> j lenne tudni mi folyik itt?
[07:35] <Doc_Thunder> Hey guys
[07:35] <Doc_Thunder> do you remember when people used to use the word "lamer" on irc all the time
[07:35] <ZiRo`-> well i'm interested in using ubuntu, but i like my gaming
[07:35] <Doc_Thunder> what ever happened to that?
[07:36] <kitche> !offtopic | Doc_Thunder
[07:36] <ubotu> Doc_Thunder: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:36] <axjv> vladi_: Sorry, I don't know that... You can ask someone else...
[07:36] <Doc_Thunder> ZiRo: dual boot
[07:36] <HaPpYfAcE> hi i have this error msg from mplayer when i open a wmv file ------ >>> Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device
[07:36] <ZiRo`-> i guess all the lamers just stopped coming on irc :\
[07:36] <oliver_g_> !hu
[07:36] <ubotu> Magyar nyelv segtsget az #ubuntu-hu csatornn tall
[07:36] <peertje888> please, does someone know how ther kernel knows where to locate its firmware?
[07:36] <Fryguy--> hhp2k: I followed this guide and had synergy up and running in 2 minutes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto
[07:36] <The_Joe_> lmao
[07:36] <nanuk> someone here who knows how to fix the fbconsole
[07:36] <hhp2k> Fryguy--: Thankyouthankyouthankyou.
[07:36] <vadas> Ok!Ksz.
[07:36] <Fryguy--> hhp2k: that's like the second google result btw, try searching next time
[07:36] <vladi_> axjv: lol...there are like 1244 users on the chan
[07:37] <The_Joe_> Actually
[07:37] <The_Joe_> I think it's frozen again
[07:37] <nanuk> sry wron chan
[07:37] <MasterShrek> lol
[07:37] <hhp2k> Fryguy--: Might be a good idea next time =D Thanks
[07:37] <Doc_Thunder> Are most of you guys using gaim or Xorg?
[07:37] <The_Joe_> Select and install software
[07:37] <The_Joe_> 6%
[07:37] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys, I'm trying to fix my mates gdm it seems to be positioned differently on the screen than the desktop? I have to press auto adjust on my monitor on gdm then once logged in I must do the same again?
[07:37] <Fryguy--> Doc_Thunder: gaim or xorg? those are 2 completely different pieces of software...
[07:38] <The_Joe_> Yeah it's been stuck here 10 minutes...
[07:38] <mrga_cro> hello
[07:38] <Doc_Thunder> Fry: Yeah, let me rephrase, what do you use for IRC on linux ?
[07:38] <Paddy_EIRE> although the resolutions are clearly the same
[07:38] <Fryguy--> Doc_Thunder: irssi
[07:38] <boogeykid> hello
[07:38] <MasterShrek> Doc_Thunder, xchat
[07:38] <oliver_g_> Doc_Thunder: pidgin (ex-gaim)
[07:38] <dag_> MasterShrek: I've installed Wine and fixed Config to XP but why won't .exe files not open?
[07:38] <Doc_Thunder> I'm using xchat
[07:38] <Doc_Thunder> actually, i'm running mirc from wine
[07:38] <Doc_Thunder> j/k
[07:38] <The_Joe_> dag_: Try opening them using the wine command
[07:39] <dag_> The_Joe_: What is the wine command?
[07:39] <The_Joe_> wine path/to/program
[07:39] <MasterShrek> dag_, are you double-clicking them? or running then from command line?
[07:39] <The_Joe_> Or Right Click - Open With other Application
[07:39] <Doc_Thunder> i gotta try irssi
[07:39] <The_Joe_> And type wine
[07:39] <MasterShrek> wine program.exe
[07:39] <dag_> MasterShrek: double click
[07:40] <Fryguy--> Doc_Thunder: irssi is imo by far the best CLI irc client available
[07:40] <ZiRo`-> ive got the amd64 fiesty, is it compatable with intel64?
[07:40] <HaPpYfAcE> does anyone knows about this error >>> Error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device
[07:40] <MasterShrek> The_Joe_, still stuck huh? how new is the laptop? (ive heard acers are notorious for this kind of thing)
[07:40] <mrga_cro> I have installed one Windows program and when i start it ,  nothing happens. I got this install the Windows version of Mono to run .NET executables
[07:40] <MasterShrek> ZiRo`-, yes
[07:40] <Fryguy--> ZiRo`-: yes
[07:40] <mrga_cro> so what should i do
[07:40] <The_Joe_> Agh
[07:40] <kitche> HaPpYfAcE: yes try the -x11 driver for mplayer
[07:40] <ZiRo`-> cheers thanks
[07:40] <The_Joe_> It goes and freezes
[07:40] <Leon_home> sense: thanks i solve the problem . (press f6 on installation , add this line : all_generic_ide
[07:40] <The_Joe_> AGAIN
[07:40] <zleap> hi
[07:40] <Doc_Thunder> Fryguy: Synaptic doesn't have IRSSI
[07:40] <IhateCLI> MasterShrek: The CLI has a learning curve steeper than the tangent of pi/2, for one. You have to memorise every single command for it to be effective, there is next to no opportunity for trial and error or exploring the interface, it's designed for a computer, not a human.  It is designed precisely so that all that is good, unique, and holy about the human intellect i
[07:40] <IhateCLI> ht blasphemous to me, and to add insult to the much greater, gravely injurng insult, it is extremely counter-productive *unless* you have memorized every single command.
[07:41] <Fryguy--> Doc_Thunder: yes it does
[07:41] <HaPpYfAcE> kitche: let me try it
[07:41] <zleap> i am working on a poster to promote ubuntu in general
[07:41] <MasterShrek> The_Joe_, go for the gutsy rc then, or maybe just wait until its released
[07:41] <peertje888> how come my ubuntu doesn't boot up faster then xp?
[07:41] <vladi_> i found out myseld
[07:41] <vladi_> myself*
[07:41] <mrga_cro> somebody
[07:41] <ZiRo`-> im gonna boot it from the cd just to have a quick play :P
[07:41] <ZiRo`-> actually, no i'm not i cba
[07:41] <Doc_Thunder> spelled it wrong
[07:41] <Doc_Thunder> irssi
[07:41] <Doc_Thunder> i had irsii
[07:41] <Fryguy--> peertje888: why would you expect it to?
[07:42] <vladi_> PEOPLE
[07:42] <vladi_> GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND
[07:42] <riotkittie> oh please.
[07:42] <Fryguy--> vladi_: i'd point them to lycos :)
[07:42] <kitche> vladi_: that's not something to say in this channel :)
[07:42] <vladi_> Fryguy--: isnt it the same shit? ;D
[07:42] <doca_thunda> Fry, I don't like this as much
[07:42] <Fryguy--> vladi_: somewhat, but I work at lycos :)
[07:42] <oliver_g_> IhateCLI: now given how much you wrote to spell out yozur cli-hate, i have doubts about whether that's your _true_ opinion :-)
[07:42] <vladi_> kitche: =)) sry
[07:42] <kitche> !language | vladi_
[07:42] <ubotu> vladi_: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:42] <doca_thunda> I can't see the names on the side of the screen
[07:43] <Pumpitup> hmm question if u re-write the mbr with win xp cd using the ubuntu live cd ill still be able to re-install dual boot grub on my sda?
[07:43] <Fryguy--> doca_thunda: of course not, you haven't read the manual or learned hwo to use it at all
[07:43] <Leon_home> !dd
[07:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:43] <vladi_> oh i'm sorry
[07:43] <RivaeAerya> How do i set the KDE artwork back to normal (the Kubuntu defaults) without deleting all my settings that i still need?
[07:43] <erin> Hi, all! I need someone to tell me if I'm correct about something: If I want to change my wireless network name, do I only change it in the router? I'm in "enable roaming" mode, but iwconfig shows my current essid (which I want to change). Any advice? Thanks!
[07:43] <vladi_> it seems there are children on the chan
[07:43] <kitche> doca_thunda: maybe it's folded up I know by default xchat has the nicks hidden in a small folded up thig
[07:43] <IhateCLI> oliver_g_: What? You mean to say I have a love-hate relationship with CLI?
[07:43] <Leon_home> can someone recommend me / give me ... good link for
[07:43] <vladi_> i will mind my words :))
[07:43] <Leon_home> "DD" command
[07:43] <riotkittie> </ - has not memorized every single command, or it's syntax but i am  more comfortable, and tend to feel more productive  on the CLI than i am/do in the GUI for the most part.
[07:43] <Fryguy--> Leon_home: dd is part of every base linux install
[07:43] <oliver_g_> IhateCLI: oh, beware!
[07:43] <The_Joe_> Agh
[07:44] <doca_thunda> Yeah, I noticed that about xchat too. All the names were pretty much hidden.
[07:44] <Lerris1> afaik essid needs to be changed everywhere, but then some machines may just join any essid
[07:44] <RivaeAerya> Anyone?
[07:44] <peertje888> I still have the request_firmware failed: Reason -2 error
[07:44] <oliver_g_> IhateCLI: never would i assume anything about relations (it's thin ice ;-)
[07:44] <omega_> i need help whit my first installation apache server
[07:44] <doca_thunda> well, at least i'm saving resources
[07:44] <MasterShrek> IhateCLI, your argument is not really true, the command line interacts exactly as a user does with a computer, except with a keyboard input and not constant mouse clicking, its good because you can run programs with different options much easier, and its not that important to remember different tags, just -h will list options and so will using man.  as for trial and error, you can do as much as you want as a user, as much tri
[07:44] <MasterShrek> al and error as you can with no worries about screwing up your system. my though on this is that there is no reason for anyone to knock the command line because its much more powerful than any gui, and if u learn it well enough you can do things much faster than point and click
[07:44] <vladi_> oh my god
[07:44] <vladi_> i didn't read that much for years
[07:44] <vladi_> :)
[07:44] <omega_> where i can get help??
[07:45] <Elite> !help Logitech Clicksmart 310
[07:45] <vladi_> haven't read even ;)
[07:45] <Lerris1> i was using fluxbox when i had gentoo
[07:45] <RivaeAerya> How do i set the KDE artwork back to normal (the Kubuntu defaults) without deleting all my settings that i still need?
[07:45] <Elite> Hey guys.
[07:45] <riotkittie> seriously. the cli has saved me more than once.  :D
[07:45] <Elite> I need a hand with something.
[07:45] <Lerris1> in some ways i miss it.. (truly minimal wm)
[07:45] <Leon_home> can someone recommend me on good graphic software for clone disks ? (like parition magic)
[07:45] <oliver_g_> Lerris1: I suppose fluxbox is still available as package in ubuntu
[07:45] <vladi_> Lerris1: i have the flux thing installed on my gentoo box :) it's cool
[07:46] <Lerris1> haven't looked, though i might
[07:46] <Pumpitup> Leon_home : gparted
[07:46] <doca_thunda> I've really started using the terminal hardcore latley, I even use a terminal rss reader
[07:46] <riotkittie> Lerris1: its in the repos
[07:46] <oliver_g_> Lerris1: but you won't have nautilus (integrated)... or network-manager... or all the other niceties of Gnome/KDE :-P
[07:46] <IhateCLI> oliver_g_: That's like me having a love-hate relationship with some fat, ugly, stupid guy I knew in school. Not that I have anything against gays, but he's simply not attractive, even under assumptiong of homosexuality.
[07:46] <Lerris1> you say that as if it is a bad thing?
[07:46] <Fryguy--> i'm a programmer so I use the CLI for pretty much everything except web browsing
[07:46] <astro76> Leon_home, partimage.... http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[07:46] <pvl1> are there any speech recignition apps for ubuntu
[07:46] <Leon_home> Pumpitup: i know that gparted can divide partitions but can it clone disks & partitions ?
[07:47] <The_Joe_> Thanks, Ubunt is now installing
[07:47] <The_Joe_> Bye
[07:47] <Scunizi> Is there a way to share contact/address data in Evolution via Kontact? I figured out how to share the same calendar between the two and figured it would be just as easy for the Contacts.... NOT!
[07:47] <Lerris1> i've never used gparted, but for cloneing drives/partitions dd just works
[07:47] <Scunizi> Lerris1, so does partimage.
[07:47] <Fryguy--> i used gparted last week, took 50 hours to resize a partition that partiionmagic woul dhave done in like 25 minutes ;(
[07:47] <cidwel> i have a question, if i want to access to a directory in a samba network, what I should type as an user and password with my windows xp if the samba requires a password and my xp only have the administrator account without set a password?
[07:47] <Fryguy--> i have NO idea what happened lol
[07:48] <oliver_g_> IhateCLI: I won't respond to your provocations with any kind of sensible argument :-P because then this channel would be flooded with (my) hots arguing - as a rule i try to avoid that at least in all #ubuntu* channels
[07:48] <RivaeAerya> How do i set the KDE artwork back to normal (the Kubuntu defaults) without deleting all my settings that i still need?
[07:48] <ny00123> Hi and OMG!
[07:48] <Leon_home> does gparted come with the live cd ?
[07:48] <RivaeAerya> IhateCLI, oliverg, all: #ubuntu-offtoic
[07:48] <RivaeAerya> offtopic*
[07:48] <MasterShrek> RivaeAerya, set them back manually
[07:48] <RivaeAerya> MasterShrek: to what?
[07:48] <Fryguy--> Leon_home: gparted has it's own livecd, i'm not sure if it's included in ubuntu's or not
[07:48] <ny00123> All of the icons on the desktop have reappeared with the .desktop extension, can't be executed, and no there's no icon to identify
[07:48] <ny00123> (apart from some default icons)
[07:48] <MasterShrek> RivaeAerya, i dont know, whatever they came as lol
[07:49] <RivaeAerya> MasterShrek: i don't know which those are
[07:49] <ny00123> Solution: Wait for Ubuntu 7.10 and install?
[07:49] <nickrud> ny00123: came in late, but have you tried killall nautilus?
[07:49] <IhateCLI> MasterShrek: Well, first off, my "argument" is fundamentally subjective. So it can't really be untrue... But anyway, the -h list is confusing. You have to read descriptions, and learn what all the crazy jargon means and what not... With a half-decent GUI you can just look for something resembling a folder and instantly know what it does is "Open". This is also much faster than reading -h's. Using the CLI is like solving geometry problems in prose, text only. It
[07:49] <IhateCLI> 't want to.
[07:49] <philippe_> hello
[07:50] <riotkittie> mmm. clack-clack-clack.
[07:50] <zleap> i have just uploaded a first attempt at a poster at www.zleap.net under downloads
[07:50] <Fryguy--> IhateCLI: if you dont' know how to use a cli program, obviously you aren't going ot like using it. The fact of the matter is, the keyboard is always faster than the mouse, so if you take the time to learn cli programs you can be faster with them than with equivalent gui programs
[07:50] <MasterShrek> IhateCLI, i guess its the difference between the user and the user+
[07:50] <takas> /q jusski
[07:50] <zleap> can someone have a look (have taken text / picturs from site and put stuff together)
[07:50] <[MH] NarcismLapto> Hi everyone, I installed Windows on one Harddrive when it was set to primary. Uninstalled that HD and Then I installed Linux on one harddrive when it was set to primary. What do I do so that whenever I boot up my computer, I can choose between them?
[07:50] <zleap> please
[07:51] <dag_> MasterShrek: Lightroom works now, but damn so slooow!
[07:51] <nickrud> ohh, one upmanship. They're both tools, have their strengths and weaknesses. Identify what works for you and use it.
[07:51] <oliver_g_> (hmpf... the disk is still in the cupboard... i'd feel the urge to cry every time i see it :-(( )
[07:51] <MasterShrek> dag_, there are tweaks and stuff, but i havent used wine in awhile i wouldnt know what to do, check through wineconfig i guess
[07:51] <Fryguy--> [MH] NarcismLapto: reinstall both operating systems while all hard drives are present is the easiest solution (though it takes a while).  I can't spend all my time being user+. Sure, the CLI is great assuming perfect knowledge of both systems, but I don't think most people have perfect knowledge of Linux. And no, text is *not* always faster. Draw a picture of a flashlight with text, go on. =p
[07:52] <nickrud> [MH] NarcismLapto: install the windows drive as first, ubuntu as second. Boot the live cd, chroot to the linux drive, and run sudo update-grub && grub-install /dev/hda
[07:52] <geers> thanks, sorry
[07:52] <[MH] NarcismLapto> Fryguy, is there some way to play with the boot.ini when my Windows harddrive is set to my primary
[07:52] <MarcN> I'm starting f-spot and seeing messages "Starting new FSpot server\nCan't get a connection to the dbus. Trying again..." over and over and no window starting up.  Ideas?
[07:52] <ny00123> nickrud, a reboot didn't help
[07:52] <nickrud> [MH] NarcismLapto: you'll also need to edit /etc/fstab in the ubuntu partition
[07:52] <hhp2k> Fryguy--: You know the part in the Synergy HowTo that tells you to make the "12synergy" file? What type of file is it that I'm creating?
[07:53] <[MH] NarcismLapto> nickrud,Fryguy, my problem is, whenever my windows HD is in my computer, linux won't install, it crashes, I tried 3 versions, and different types of CD's
[07:53] <ny00123> in addition, when I try to click a pdf file (or a symlink to it, doesn't seem to matter)
[07:53] <ny00123> I get:
[07:53] <nickrud> ny00123: when did this start happening, do you remember doing anything just before?
[07:53] <Fryguy--> [MH] NarcismLapto: not really, windows can't boot linux, linux can boot windows, so you need to go the *other* way
[07:53] <oliver_g_> IhateCLI: so, i thought as biochem undergraduate you're doing serious work, instead of drawing flashlights?! ;-)
[07:53] <ny00123> "Cannot open /.../...pdf: No application sutiable for automatic installation is available for handling this kidn of file."
[07:53] <MasterShrek> IhateCLI, i dont sit aroudn and draw pictures, and im have nowhere near perfect knowledge of linux, but i can use the command line and do things in 5 minutes that would take me 2 hours to do in a gui, and most of it probably wouldnt even be possible in a gui
[07:53] <ny00123> ==> Some gconf(?) file has got corrupted? :o
[07:53] <axjv> !pdf
[07:53] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[07:53] <IhateCLI> oliver_g_: Well... Umm... Sometimes class gets boring... And... Uhh...
[07:54] <MasterShrek> !cli
[07:54] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:54] <[MH] NarcismLapto> Fryguy, the HD my windows was on, crashed and messed up a few times, so Linux doesn't like it, but Windows doesn't seem to mind
[07:54] <Fryguy--> hhp2k: it's a text file...
[07:54] <nickrud> ny00123: that thing about gconf, you saw that as an error?
[07:54] <MasterShrek> =P
[07:54] <oliver_g_> IhateCLI: :-D
[07:54] <ny00123> nickrud, I think I've just tried executing GNU Backgammon via a launcher I've made
[07:54] <axjv> !stepmania
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stepmania - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <axjv> =(
[07:54] <ny00123> then suddenly, all of the icons became the actual .desktop files
[07:54] <ny00123> (which have always been in fact, as seen from a terminal)
[07:54] <doca_thunda> So to jump from window 2 window in irssi you hit alt-a
[07:54] <doca_thunda> thats my tip
[07:55] <Fryguy--> [MH] NarcismLapto: yes, and that doesn't change the fact that windows can't boot linux
[07:55] <ny00123> I guess the best solution is to wait 'till Thursday or so and reinstall Ubuntu, this time version 7.10.
[07:55] <hhp2k> Fryguy--: Well yes, but is it .txt? Or .bash?
[07:55] <riotkittie> ah. i usully alt # :P
[07:55] <Fryguy--> hhp2k: it's nothing
[07:55] <erin> Hi again! Could anyone tell me exactly how to change my wireless essid? I know how to do it in the router, but I'm reading conflicting instructions about how to do it in Ubuntu.
[07:55] <hhp2k> Nothing? Okay.
[07:55] <nickrud> ny00123: I'd log out, switch to a virtual console (clt-alt-f1) , log in , make sure gconf is not running (killall gconfd) and then rm .gconf*
[07:55] <Fryguy--> extensions dont' matter for the most part in linux, go look at the directory they have you putting it into for examples..
[07:55] <geers> does anyone know a good url to encrypt my harddisk
[07:55] <MasterShrek> erin, sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid <essid>
[07:55] <IhateCLI> MasterShrek: Yes, CLI is faster for *you*. CLI is however, arguably slower for even "average" expert users, (since a lot of the tasks which you don't need to do, but some people have to do are easier with GUI) and definitely faster for both n00bs, and the user of "average" skill.
[07:55] <ny00123> ok
[07:56] <Fryguy--> geers: truecrypt is the one and only solution
[07:56] <m1r> erin , iwconfig wlan0 essid youressidname
[07:56] <ny00123> trying nickrud
[07:56] <geers> thanks Fryguy
[07:56] <Fryguy--> IhateCLI: yes we established that a while ago
[07:56] <Fryguy--> do you have a point at all? or are you just trolling?
[07:56] <nickrud> ny00123: also, creating a new user and seeing if it's desktop works is a good check to see if it's a user config issue
[07:56] <erin> MasterShrek and m1r: Thanks! Is that the only place, besides the router's setup IP page?
[07:57] <riotkittie> IhateCLI: and you have polled a sufficient amount of "average" expert users to be able to make such a statement, I suppose?
[07:57] <MasterShrek> IhateCLI, the world is brainwashed by windows that a gui can be used for everything
[07:57] <IhateCLI> Fryguy--: Eh? Sorry. MasterShrek appeared to be interesting in my reasons. I'll leave if I'm causing you guys trouble.
[07:57] <riotkittie> i use my GUI to wash my laundry.
[07:57] <cidwel> cups says that when i trying to print something "Can not get the ticket cache for root"
[07:57] <cidwel> what means? >_>
[07:57] <nickrud> would this darned cli vs gui pseudo-controversy please exit?
[07:57] <m1r> erin, if only essid , then yes
[07:57] <zoidberg_> hey guys...i just downloaded a torrent file and supposedly i have to sign up for some bullshit offers in order to get the password to unrar this file
[07:57] <dag_> MasterShrek: Did not work so good afterall. For a photographer, do you have a suggestion what kind of album/quick editor tool you can use?
[07:57] <ny00123> Apart from resetting some of the settings (e.g. gnome-bar color)
[07:57] <ny00123> no change
[07:57] <zoidberg_> is there anyway i can bypass the password thing to unrar it?
[07:58] <Mumphster> Can anyone please help me get my sound to work? Everything is detected ( I think ) and unmuted yet I still cant hear anything
[07:58] <Fryguy--> zoidberg_: wrong channel
[07:58] <Fryguy--> zoidberg_: and no you can't
[07:58] <MasterShrek> Fryguy--, i did inquire as to why he hates the cli, we coulda moved to offtopic i spose
[07:58] <kitche> !language | zoidberg_
[07:58] <smultron> zoidberg_: no, and don't sign up for anything either
[07:58] <ubotu> zoidberg_: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:58] <IhateCLI> MasterShrek: Maybe. But GUI is still easier for some things. Sometimes, for a lot of things.
[07:58] <ny00123> Best solution: Oh well, upgrade to v7.10 ;]
[07:58] <nickrud> ny00123: try creating a new user, log into that one
[07:58] <kitche> !warez | zoidberg_
[07:58] <ubotu> zoidberg_: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[07:58] <smultron> zoidberg_: it's a scam
[07:58] <riotkittie> if its passworded, its safe to assume ^
[07:58] <zleap> is your speakers plugged in properly and turned up (obvious but easy to miss)
[07:58] <Mumphster> zleap yes
[07:59] <zleap> ok
[07:59] <ny00123> ok created
[07:59] <ny00123> let's try logging in
[07:59] <smultron> ubotu who says all torrents are illegal? :P
[07:59] <kitche> smultron: if it's passwored then it's most likely illegal :)
[07:59] <niina> is there a good HTML/CSS channel on freenode.net?
[07:59] <Fryguy--> #html
[07:59] <riotkittie> nobody said all were illegal
[07:59] <Fryguy--> #css
[07:59] <smultron> kitche: i know, i'm just havin fun :P
[08:00] <smultron> niina: you can try #web but they're usually waaaaaaay off topic :P
[08:01] <neopsyche> gnome refuses to let me use anything but 800x600 when i enable nvidia card
[08:01] <Bneriusus> hello, it is possible to install update on ubuntu, i mean 7.10 RC on my 7.04?? and then update to full 7.10??
[08:01] <neopsyche> can anyone help with this?
[08:01] <ny00123> No change, as "emerge" (new user name) copied .desktop files ==> Appear as .desktop
[08:01] <nickrud> Bneriusus: yes
[08:01] <IhateCLI> Oh well, anyway, I'm off. Sorry for being so anal about the CLI business, it just kinda frustrates me a bit. Ok, A while.
[08:01] <demon_spork> falalalala
[08:01] <MasterShrek> neopsyche, do you have an nvidia config program somewhere in system or something?
[08:01] <ny00123> And a symlink to a pdf file couldn't be loaded for the same reason
[08:01] <Fryguy--> Bneriusus: it's possible, just change what repositories you point to. I certainly wouldn't recommend it
[08:01] <neopsyche> yes i think so
[08:01] <ny00123> Should I remove .gconf* folders from /root ?
[08:02] <Mumphster> Can anyone please help me get my sound to work? Everything is detected ( I think ) and unmuted yet I still cant hear anything
[08:02] <SDugas> Bneriusus: If you want to upgrade to 7.10 rc, open a terminal and type "update-manager -d"
[08:02] <ny00123> ...or wait no, that'd surely be a hyper-disaster
[08:02] <Fryguy--> Mumphster: need more information than "it doesn't work"
[08:02] <Bneriusus> Fryguy--: Why don`t??
[08:02] <Mumphster> Like what Fryguy--
[08:02] <zleap> i don't use ubuntu,  just try and promote it
[08:02] <nickrud> ny00123: it shouldn't matter, those are used when you gksudo <gui program>
[08:02] <Fryguy--> Bneriusus: because it's not officially released, and certainly still has some bugs in it
[08:02] <Scunizi> SDugas, why the -d?  I've read -c?
[08:02] <riotkittie> zleap: how bizarre.
[08:02] <ny00123> let's try...
[08:03] <SDugas> d for update distribution
[08:03] <zleap> whats wrong with that,  well I have debian on at the momebt, it works great
[08:03] <Lorvija> !raid
[08:03] <Fryguy--> Mumphster: like what sound card you have, what settings you are using, are you using analog out or digital out, is the driver being properly detected, etc etc etc. have you searched google yet for your specific sound card and possible issues in ubuntu?
[08:03] <riotkittie> well maybe not bizarre.   :P
[08:03] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[08:03] <HaPpYfAcE> kitche: thanx i did edit my gui.conf and now its working really good
[08:03] <lgc_> Does Windows use UTF-8 or UTF-16 encoding?
[08:03] <Mumphster> Fryguy--, yes and everything is installed. I used alsa and installed the intel8x0 drivers for my onboard nvidia ac97 sound
[08:03] <ny00123> Failure.
[08:03] <Mumphster> yet I still hear nothing
[08:03] <ny00123> Oh well, let's wait for Thursday (or get a beta right now)
[08:03] <zleap> well its pretty easy to give out cd's for ubuntu
[08:03] <Bneriusus> SDugas: thanks
[08:03] <smultron> has anyone successfully setup an encrypted file system with ubuntu? or something that emulates an encrypted filesystem?
[08:03] <ny00123> but I should backup stuff too.
[08:04] <nickrud> ny00123: ok. Strange problem, that. Where'd you put that desktop file you created?
[08:04] <ny00123> at /home/emerge/Desktop
[08:04] <lgc_> smultron, google for 'loop de
[08:04] <lgc_> smultron, google for 'loop device'.
[08:04] <ny00123> I've switched back to ny00123 after the failure
[08:05] <Fryguy--> Mumphster: and have you searched the internet for "ubuntu intel8x0" and followed the various suggestions that are there?
[08:05] <Mumphster> Fryguy--, yes
[08:05] <smultron> lgc_: thanks :)
[08:05] <Mumphster> numerous times
[08:05] <Fryguy--> Mumphster: what specifically have you tried?
[08:05] <lgc_> smultron, NP.
[08:05] <ny00123> This is it, one second
[08:05] <pvl1> is there any speech recignition applications for ubuntu?
[08:05] <ny00123> your system is half-functional
[08:05] <fritz> hi
[08:05] <ny00123> oh well...an upgrade I guess!
[08:05] <nickrud> ny00123: next step for me (if the distro upgrade wasn't so close ;) would be to log into recovery mode (that way I *know* gconfd is not running) and delete emerge/.gconf , .gconfd , .gnome2 ,gnome2_private , .local
[08:05] <zleap> hi
[08:06] <Mumphster> Fryguy--, reinstalling alsa, reinstalling ubuntu, changing the master output thing in the mixer to all the different options and a bunch of other things
[08:06] <fritz> is anyone from Turkey ?
[08:06] <ny00123> wait nickrud
[08:06] <nickrud> ny00123: and the desktop file I'd created
[08:06] <ny00123> I write all of this to /root/emerge.txt
[08:06] <Fryguy--> Mumphster: you turn off esd?
[08:06] <ny00123> so I don't forget ;]
[08:06] <Lorvija> hey can ubuntu be installed on software raid1 array?
[08:06] <Fryguy--> Lorvija: yes
[08:06] <Mumphster> Fryguy--, where is that at. It sounds familiar but im not sure
[08:06] <Fryguy--> 4th result on google...
[08:07] <ny00123> ok rebooting...
[08:07] <Lorvija> Fryguy--, where i could find some faq/doc/help for that?
[08:07] <Anon7404> nick dani
[08:07] <Fryguy--> Lorvija: google
[08:07] <Mumphster> well then Fryguy-- I probaly did it
[08:07] <Lorvija> Fryguy-- done that last 40 min...
[08:07] <Fryguy--> Mumphster: you realize I can't help you unless you help me?
[08:07] <astro76> !raid | Lorvija
[08:07] <ubotu> Lorvija: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[08:07] <Anon7404> nick ?
[08:07] <Mumphster> Fryguy--, whats there to help with. Like I said ive done all of that
[08:08] <Fryguy--> Mumphster: actually you never said anything about disabling esd
[08:08] <astro76> Fryguy--, this is not a "just google it" channel
[08:08] <Fryguy--> astro76: it should be
[08:08] <astro76> !coc
[08:08] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[08:08] <silent> astro76, I agree, but some things can be responded to by "google it"
[08:08] <LordLimecat> anyone have a second to help me with a script? im trying to pipe output from ps -A|awk into a wait command, or to bring a background process to foreground
[08:08] <Lorvija> astro76 well those links arent for me.. i'm trying to do fresh install... that raidconfigurationhowto is something different as it says..
[08:08] <Mumphster> What im trying to say is that ive spent the last 2 days 'googling it' and nothing has worked
[08:08] <Mumphster> thats why I am here
[08:09] <silent> Mumphster, then you're in the right place
[08:09] <astro76> Lorvija, do you have the alternate install cd? you need that to install on raid
[08:09] <silent> ugh, I cant type... need to cut my nails
[08:09] <nickrud> google's a great tool, if you know 'what' to google for. Offering google links seems a better choice
[08:09] <Mumphster> Yeah silent I know but im not getting what I was expecting, oh well
[08:09] <Fryguy--> Mumphster: I guess I don't know what to tell you then. I use intel8x0 and mine worked out of the box after checking the box to use digital output (since I use optical out to another device)
[08:09] <silent> nickrud, good idea
[08:09] <silent> Mumphster, what are you trying to do?
[08:10] <Lorvija> astro76 i dont have even the server yet... doing preliminary search... so i'll get what i need (:
[08:10] <Fryguy--> silent: he's trying to get sound working with an ac97 onboard soundcard with alsa
[08:10] <demon_spork> What do I need to do to reinstall Grub after installing Vista?
[08:10] <Mumphster> silent, I am trying to get my onboard sound to work
[08:10] <nickrud> !grub | demon_spork
[08:10] <chippy> Mumphster, tried liveCD ?
[08:10] <ubotu> demon_spork: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:10] <kitche> Mumphster: what does lsmod|grep snd_intel8x0 tell you?
[08:10] <Mumphster> one second
[08:10] <Fryguy--> demon_spork: http://www.tipstrs.com/tip/82/Restore-grub-after-installing-windows
[08:11] <ny00123> No help...although I haven't removed any .desktop file -_-
[08:11] <silent> Mumphster, is your sound card detected under lspci and/or the sound gui under system > preferences > sound?
[08:11] <ny00123> (it's very possible that the new configurations are more 'empty' than the defaults)
[08:11] <SDugas> !compiz
[08:11] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:11] <lgc_> Mumphster, did you read the Ubuntu help page on sound?
[08:11] <nickrud> ny00123: ok, also get rid of .nautilus .metacity .config .
[08:11] <Tone> hi there ppl. im using an old/legacy nvidia card and have to install the driver on each reboot. is this a common problem or am i doing sth wrong ?
[08:11] <Mumphster> lgc_, yes
[08:11] <Mumphster> and silent yes its detected
[08:11] <Mumphster> and kitche this is the output
[08:11] <nickrud> ny00123: although, gutsy works pretty darned well :)
[08:11] <Mumphster> http://pastebin.com/ma0c08f6
[08:12] <kitche> Mumphster: is pcm turned up in alsamixer?
[08:12] <silent> Mumphster, have you installed the latest alsa driver and libraries?
[08:12] <lgc_> Mumphster, oh, well... I did too, and I didn't get my ALSA working quite right...:(.
[08:12] <Mumphster> kitche, yes.
[08:12] <ny00123> nickrud, I'm going to get Gutsy soon yeah ;]
[08:12] <Mumphster> and yeah silent it is
[08:12] <ny00123> or at least planning to
[08:12] <silent> Mumphster, 1.0.15rc3?
[08:12] <lgc_> When is Gutsy officially released?
[08:12] <aleka> checking for DBUS... configure: error:
[08:12] <aleka> *** DBUS 0.62+ is required to build MusicTracker; please make sure you have the
[08:12] <aleka> *** DBUS development files installed. The latest version of DBUS is always
[08:12] <aleka> *** available at http://dbus.freedesktop.net/.
[08:12] <aleka>  Any help on this?? should I compile Dbus for source?
[08:12] <riotkittie> lgc_: 18th
[08:12] <nickrud> gutsy fixed my networking problems, wonderfully.
[08:12] <Mumphster> silent, I am pretty sure but how would I go about checking just to be positive?
[08:13] <kitche> aleka: you need -dev package for dbus
[08:13] <riotkittie> gutsy drove me screaming into the arms of ndiswrapper :|
[08:13] <silent> Mumphster, did you download alsa and install it yourself?
[08:13] <Fryguy--> aleka: apt-get install dbus ??
[08:13] <Fryguy--> or maybe libdbus-1-dev
[08:13] <Mumphster> silent, im pretty sure I did but how would I go about checking
[08:13] <lgc_> riotkittie, I certainly hope it's better than Edgy and Feisty. I am frankly disappointed with Ubuntu after Dapper...:(.
[08:13] <Mumphster> Ive been hacking away at this problem for the past 2 weeks so some things are hazy
[08:13] <nanonyme> riotkittie, heh, lucky i *can't* be driven into ndiswrapper
[08:13] <gnurph> I'm trying to mount an NTFS USB drive using ntfs-3g and I'm getting "No such file or directory"; any ideas?
[08:13] <aleka> kitche:  is the dev package in the ubuntu repos?
[08:13] <nickrud> aleka: install libdbus-1-dev  (found with apt-cache search libdbus | grep dev)
[08:13] <kitche> aleka: yes
[08:13] <RenatoSilva> plesae
[08:13] <ny00123> lol, now all of the icons are adjusted to the top-left
[08:14] <RenatoSilva> tell me interesting channels
[08:14] <ny00123> (mostly to the left)
[08:14] <silent> Mumphster, I'm not sure how you would check the version, but you can always reinstall to make sure, you want to reinstall?
[08:14] <aleka> thanks.. kitche and nickrud
[08:14] <astro76> !ot | RenatoSilva
[08:14] <ubotu> RenatoSilva: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:14] <ny00123> but still, plain .desktop files
[08:14] <Mumphster> silent, if you think it may help then sure
[08:14] <ny00123> and a non-working pdf (symlink)
[08:14] <jrib> gnurph: paste the command you are using
[08:14] <silent> Mumphster, /join #argh
[08:14] <ny00123> I guess Gutsy 7.10 is the way to go :D
[08:14] <lgc_> oliver__, at this pace, I'm afraid we're going to end up with Ubu
[08:15] <aleka> has anyone used music tracker succesfully with pidgin then?
[08:15] <lgc_> oliver__, at this pace, I'm afraid we're going to end up with 'Ubuntu Crappy'.
[08:15] <kemo_dev> join #uus guys am trying to make it more active
[08:15] <sixdraw> anyone able to help me with a smal question
[08:15] <gnurph> irib:  logged in as root; from /media directory:  mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 "My Book"
[08:15] <lgc_> oliver_g_, at this pace, I'm afraid we're going to end up with 'Ubuntu Crappy'.
[08:15] <cyclonut> can anyone recommend an network manager other than nm-applet?
[08:15] <oliver_g_> lgc_: I have hopes that after gutsy (ie.: a week from now), all devs will concentrate on bugfixes for hardy
[08:15] <cyclonut> (because nm-applet doesnt work for me)
[08:15] <sixdraw> having trouble with efax and my modem but have my modem driver installed correct
[08:15] <oliver_g_> lgc_: and i also hope that hardy will get two extra-months like dapper did
[08:15] <MasterShrek> cyclonut, command line
[08:16] <jrib> gnurph: what does this return:  ls "/media/My Book"
[08:16] <oliver_g_> cyclonut: knetworkmanager should do as well
[08:16] <lgc_> oliver_g_, Hardy is the next one after Gutsy?
[08:16] <cyclonut> MasterShrek: apart from command line
[08:16] <oliver_g_> lgc_: yes, afaik
[08:16] <riotkittie> cyclonut: there's wicd ...   how doesnt nm-applet work? what chipset are you using? wicd isnt in the repos but you can find it on sourceforge
[08:16] <MasterShrek> =(
[08:16] <cyclonut> oliver_g_: humm.. knetwork mangaer eh
[08:16] <riotkittie> i have not used it myself, but i have heard good things.
[08:16] <gnurph> irib:  "No such file or directory" - which I think I'd expect, because it isn't mounted, right?
[08:16] <urh> does anyone know why command alsa conf doesnt work? i would like to configure my sound card
[08:16] <nickrud> lol
[08:16] <lgc_> oliver_g_, is there anything interesting promised for Gutsy?
[08:16] <kitche> oliver_g_: hmm hardy heron is LTS
[08:16] <oliver_g_> cyclonut: colleague of mine switched to knetworkmanager on his ubuntu (gnome) desktop when nm-applet was broken
[08:17] <cyclonut> riotkittie: NM doesnt detect when I have dropped a network, will not let me change networks, will not bring wireless back up after standby, etc
[08:17] <aleka> nickrud: installed libdbus-1-dev and I am still getting the same dbus error////
[08:17] <wckdkl0wn> this is a weird request but here goes.. i have a text file with 10k lines in it.. i need to move the text from the end of each line after the ? to the front of the line and put a | after the text it moved... does linux have something that will do this auto? kinda like a word replace
[08:17] <san|> is there a way to get higher resolutions with the open source ati drivers then 1024x768??
[08:17] <cyclonut> oliver_g_: Ill check it out, Ive been trying to not install the kde libs though
[08:17] <astro76> lgc_, here's the highlights http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/gutsybeta
[08:17] <jrib> wckdkl0wn: sed
[08:17] <cyclonut> ...for whatever reason
[08:17] <lgc_> astro76, let me check...
[08:17] <wckdkl0wn> jrib, is it in the repositories?
[08:17] <encrypt3d> folks, I have been wrestling with an issue regarding running fping from my desktop when i am not root.  Is there a quick shortcut that i can put into the launcher to allow this?  gksu -u root /usr/bin/fping doesnt work.  I also tried visudo but have been unsuccessful.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[08:17] <ny00123> san|, editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf might help:
[08:17] <riotkittie> brb
[08:17] <ny00123> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:18] <SDugas> what's the default window manager?
[08:18] <ny00123> (or kedit if you're using kubuntu)
[08:18] <san|> wckdkl0wn: there are plenty of editors which support regular expressions
[08:18] <oliver_g_> cyclonut: if you install it with aptiude, you can later remove it with aptitude again and all the kdelibs will be gone
[08:18] <ny00123> look for a list of resolutions at the bottom
[08:18] <nickrud> aleka: you might need libdubs-glib-1-dev as well
[08:18] <Fryguy--> wckdkl0wn: perl/vim/emacs/sed/awk/any scripting language can all do something like that
[08:18] <jrib> wckdkl0wn: yes though you probably have it already
[08:18] <ny00123> actually, multiples of the list
[08:18] <peertje888> Is there alleady someone who can help me with my request_firmware failed: Reason -2 ?
[08:18] <LordLimecat> anyone have a second to help me with a script ive been struggling with?
[08:18] <nickrud> aleka: libdus-glib-1-dev
[08:18] <HaPpYfAcE> thanx
[08:18] <cyclonut> oliver_g_: neat.Ill try it out
[08:18] <ChupaChups> does Ubuntu ever crash?
[08:18] <MasterShrek> encrypt3d, omit the -u root
[08:18] <cyclonut> ChupaChups: sure
[08:18] <Fryguy--> ChupaChups: of course
[08:18] <ny00123> I remember Fedora7 has crashed several times
[08:18] <ny00123> because of a bug in the network driver
[08:19] <ny00123> but also Ubuntu with Compiz ("sync to vblank")
[08:19] <oliver_g_> LordLimecat: what exactly are you trying to do?
[08:19] <gnurph> irib:  still with me?
[08:19] <ChupaChups> is there an OS which doesn't ever crash?
[08:19] <Fryguy--> ChupaChups: no
[08:19] <nickrud> ChupaChups: pen and paper
[08:19] <ny00123> Maybe
[08:19] <ny00123> one which does nothing ;]
[08:19] <ny00123> not even DOS
[08:19] <ChupaChups> ok ok
[08:19] <oliver_g_> ChupaChups: maybe some industrial-strength OS
[08:19] <Seveas> nickrud, I'll tear that paper and break the pen :)
[08:19] <LordLimecat> oliver_g_: im trying to run ventrilo, background it with &, run ventriloctrl, background it, and then wait till ventrilo exits, and killall ventriloctrl
[08:19] <sjkwizard> how can i add location to weather report?
[08:20] <nickrud> although, you might need an erasable pen :)
[08:20] <LordLimecat> ventrilo MUST be run fiurst
[08:20] <nickrud> Seveas: lol
[08:20] <jrib> gnurph: "jrib" to hilight me
[08:20] <ChupaChups> how does an ubuntu crash look like?
[08:20] <LordLimecat> lemme pastebin what i have
[08:20] <szb9> hello
[08:20] <oliver_g_> ChupaChups: depends on what you wanna do and what you see as "crash"... if "just" X.org crashes it's for most users like the whole system has crashed
[08:20] <Fryguy--> ChupaChups: it dpends on what you did to crash it
[08:20] <Dialntone> drinking some coffee trying to get my cross over steam working :(
[08:20] <LordLimecat> oliver_g_: http://pastebin.com/d121c60a2
[08:21] <jrib> gnurph: you need to create the directory to mount it:  sudo mkdir "/media/My Book"
[08:21] <ChupaChups> I mean like a "Blue Screen of Death" in Windows
[08:21] <kitche> ChupaChups: usually you get a kernel panic :)
[08:21] <Dialntone> halflife is almost impossible to get right on here, i mean it works but there's no sound... >> can someone help me
[08:21] <mwax> does anyone know if ubuntu has problems detecting usb 2.0 devices
[08:21] <szb9> where can i download the ubuntu startup sound?
[08:21] <mwax> i have a couple external lacie drives connected by usb and when i look under hardware profiles, it notes all of my usb devices as 1.0
[08:21] <virtuososteve> hey
[08:21] <oliver_g_> LordLimecat: let me think about that a moment
[08:21] <Seveas> ChupaChups, search google images for kernel panic
[08:21] <ChupaChups> what is kernel panic?
[08:21] <virtuososteve> how do u connect a iriver clix to ubuntu?
[08:21] <LordLimecat> oliver_g_: i was also looking into using the wait command, similar to ps -A|grep Ventrilo|awk '{print $1}'|wait
[08:21] <LordLimecat> but wait isnt accepting pipes
[08:22] <Seveas> LordLimecat, replace wait with xargs wait
[08:22] <kitche> ChupaChups: it's what you call a crash
[08:22] <Seveas> LordLimecat, xargs transforms input to arguments for other commands. VERY useful :)
[08:22] <mwax> virtuososteve have you tried gnomad2?
[08:22] <LordLimecat> seveas: xargs: wait: No such file or directory
[08:22] <LordLimecat>  :(
[08:22] <ChupaChups> how does it look?
[08:23] <LordLimecat> but yea, i vaguely remember xargs, it was a lifesaver before
[08:23] <gnurph> jrib:  well...it appears to mount, but I still can't write to it, even though I'm using ntfs-3g...
[08:23] <nickrud> szb9: look on packages.ubuntu.com for ubuntu-sounds, it's in that package
[08:23] <virtuososteve> wat is it mwax?
[08:23] <szb9> thx
[08:23] <mwax> i have a creative zen
[08:23] <Seveas> LordLimecat, well, wait isn't a shell command but a syscall that can only be run from the parent of a process
[08:23] <kitche> ChupaChups: black screen that says kernel panic <error>
[08:23] <mwax> and i tried gnomad2
[08:23] <Seveas> LordLimecat, so you'll have to try something else :)
[08:23] <virtuososteve> where do i download it?
[08:23] <LordLimecat> :(
[08:24] <jrib> !ntfs-3g > gnurph (read the private message from ubotu)
[08:24] <Maxas> what is ubuntu
[08:24] <mwax> i haven't taken time to configure it yet but I think that would work
[08:24] <ny00123> Humanity
[08:24] <Maxas> I see it is the biggest channel
[08:24] <mwax> hmm
[08:24] <jrib> !ubuntu | Maxas
[08:24] <ubotu> Maxas: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[08:24] <LordLimecat> is fg the right command to be using here then?
[08:24] <zenska> zdr
[08:24] <ny00123> Now I'm off from here (TV), I guess I shall upgrade to v7.10
[08:24] <oliver_g_> LordLimecat: why do you want the ./runctrl.sh command in the background and then wait for it??
[08:24] <zenska> kako si
[08:24] <zenska> ste
[08:24] <ChupaChups> look, I was just sitting here in ma windows and using Opera for browsing, and suddenly I saw BSOD,
[08:24] <Seveas> LordLimecat, I just hopped in, what are you trying to accomplish?
[08:25] <ChupaChups> does this happen in ubuntu?
[08:25] <Seveas> ChupaChups, no
[08:25] <LordLimecat> seveas, im trying to run ventrilo (thru wine), then ventriloctrl (a seperate program which MUST be run after ventrilo), then kill off ventriloctrl once ventrilo dies
[08:25] <oliver_g_> ChupaChups: seldom :-)
[08:25] <ChupaChups> ok
[08:25] <Seveas> ChupaChups, unless you use the BSOD screensaver, then you get crash displays from lots of OS'es
[08:25] <ChupaChups> lol
[08:25] <LordLimecat> currently, i get vent running, then ventctrl, but once vent dies, ctrl keeps running
[08:25] <aolaus> anyone help me with a wireless problem?
[08:26] <oliver_g_> ChupaChups: the bsods under windows mostly come from bad drivers - if you stay with opensource drivers under ubuntu, that shouldn't happen
[08:26] <ChupaChups> oliver_g_: seldom? it is seldom for my windows too!
[08:26] <oliver_g_> ChupaChups: the drivers that come with ubuntu are very stable in my opinion
[08:26] <aolaus> anybody?
[08:26] <rtg> whats the wireless problem?
[08:26] <LordLimecat> ChupaChups: i prefer linux so far because when something DOES go haywire, it is within my power to find the cause, and resolve it.  Also, even in worst case scenarios, a reinstall is almost never required.
[08:26] <djm62> my laptop overheats, abruptly shutting down - no data loss so far, but is there any way to get it to cool down through software?
[08:26] <aolaus> it's not showing up
[08:27] <aolaus> I'm currently working through ethernet
[08:27] <oliver_g_> ChupaChups: (can't say that of the vendor drivers... the ATI fglrx driver had a bug in one version that locked up whole system - it felt like using windows :-( )
[08:27] <LordLimecat> ChupaChups: YMMV tho, just personal preference.  If windows works fine for you, then more power to you
[08:27] <rtg> what kind of wireless card are you using?
[08:27] <aolaus> iwconfig says it's there
[08:27] <aolaus> but I can't access it
[08:27] <aolaus> or don't know how
[08:27] <aolaus> intel 3945
[08:27] <Seveas> LordLimecat, launch ventrilo with a script that kills ventctrl when ventrilo is gone, something like
[08:27] <ChupaChups> LordLimecat: but u must have deep knowledge? or not?
[08:27] <Seveas> #!/bin/sh
[08:27] <Mumphster> try sudo dhclient wlan0
[08:27] <Seveas> ventrilo
[08:27] <Seveas> pkill ventctrl
[08:27] <LordLimecat> ChupaChups: eh, not really
[08:27] <virtuososteve> hey mwax the gnomad2 is for zen not iriver
[08:27] <demon_spork> how do I change GDM themes:
[08:28] <LordLimecat> ChupaChups: thats why these chats are here, and forums
[08:28] <demon_spork> ?
[08:28] <kint_> would anyone be able to help me get resolvconf working? I'm trying to VPN to work. It looks like it finds the DNS servers correctly and moves them to /etc/resolv.conf, but I can't ping any servers
[08:28] <Fryguy--> ChupaChups: download the ubuntu livecd and experiment for yourself
[08:28] <kartpusher05> hey all....does any1 know how to change the default file browser for gnome? I installed dolphin but i want it set as my default file browser... any help would be appreciated
[08:28] <gnurph> jrib:  TY - solved it
[08:28] <aolaus> me, mumphster?
[08:28] <Mumphster> yeah
[08:28] <kruqnu1> im trying to burn an image file to a cdr
[08:28] <kruqnu1> i tried to use the graveman program, yet it gives me an error, operation failed
[08:28] <LordLimecat> seveas: what will pkill ventriloctrl do?
[08:28] <Seveas> LordLimecat, or this: while pgrep ventrilo >/dev/null ; do sleep 10 ; done; pkill ventctrl
[08:28] <kruqnu1> when i try
[08:28] <aolaus> the wireless is actually showing up as eth1
[08:28] <Seveas> LordLimecat, man pkill :)
[08:28] <aolaus> should I try sudo dhclient eth1?
[08:29] <LordLimecat> just did, looks like pgrep :\
[08:29] <kruqnu1> anyone know why i might be getting this error and maybe can help me burn this image?
[08:29] <ChupaChups> I have the CD and tried installing, I didn't like it much then, because the video driver wasn't installed and the screen was so slow...
[08:29] <encrypt3d> MasterShrek, i think i am on the right track, however i am also looking for the launcher to open the command into a new shell - any ideas? gksu /usr/bin/fping  -- i enter my root PW, but it seems like the process runs in the back ground.
[08:29] <LordLimecat> i need ventriloctrl to continue running until ventrilo dies
[08:29] <LordLimecat> the second option will work, but i was hoping for something more elegant
[08:30] <rtg> aolaus: i have the same one, using ubuntu drapper, i used a program called WiFi Radar
[08:30] <LordLimecat> im guessing it polls every 10 seconds to see if vent is alive?
[08:30] <erin> Hi again, everyone. Anyone know the file that I need to add "ndiswrapper" to if I want my wireless to connect on startup?
[08:30] <rtg> you can get it with a `sudo apt-get install wifi-radar`
[08:30] <aolaus> lol that's funny.. they said feisty would take care of the problems
[08:30] <aolaus> should I try that?
[08:31] <LordLimecat> seveas: like, is there a way of restoring ventrilo to the foreground so that the script halts till it closes?
[08:31] <kitche> erin: you don't need to add ndiswrapper to anything just need the module to load at startup you can do that with sudo nsdiswrapper -m
[08:31] <rob-e> hey guys
[08:31] <Seveas> LordLimecat, what does the script look like now?
[08:31] <oliver_g_> LordLimecat, Seveas: what about "ventrilo&; ventriloctrl&; wait `pgrep ventrilo`"?
[08:31] <kruqnu1> can anyone help me with burning an image to CDR please? i tried to use graveman(program that is in the program manager) but i get an operation failed message. I'm not sure what i am doing wrong. Can anyone help me?
[08:31] <LordLimecat> http://pastebin.com/d121c60a2
[08:31] <Seveas> oliver_g_, wait is not a shell command :)
[08:31] <LordLimecat> oliver_g_: that may do it o.0
[08:31] <oliver_g_> Seveas: is that a problem?
[08:32] <ChupaChups> will I be able such cool applications for Ubuntu, like I find for Windows (mIRC, Total Commander, Miranda, Winamp, BSPlayer, WinRAR and many other (I use about a hundred)?
[08:32] <ChupaChups> *able to find
[08:32] <Seveas> LordLimecat, the fg %1 should bring ventrilo in the foregrund
[08:32] <javaJake> ChupaChups, yes
[08:32] <Fryguy--> ChupaChups: yes
[08:32] <mehevi> hi, I need to start onboard-an onscreen keyboard, at the gdm login screen.  I've read online about it, and updated onboard to .88, set it to run in /etc/gdm/Init/Default, but it still will not show up
[08:32] <erin> Kitche: Yeah, I did that before, but I changed my essid, and now I lost it again. There's some file that has "lo" in it and I added "ndiswrapper" to it to connect on startup
[08:32] <javaJake> ChupaChups, list out the essentials, we'll give you the software equivilants
[08:32] <javaJake> ChupaChups, one at a time. :)
[08:32] <rob-e> how would you recommend setting up a mythtv box which is also a small web server?
[08:32] <oliver_g_> *** wheee!! software suggestion party!! ***
[08:32] <Karti> Hi all, looking for a tool that will convert wma to mp3? Any ideas? Many thanks
[08:32] <kitche> erin: /etc/network/interfaces but you don't have to put ndiswrapper in any file
[08:32] <oliver_g_> :-D
[08:33] <javaJake> ChupaChups, also, I recommend you try Ubuntu through the LiveCD, make sure everything works, and you like the software, before you install.
[08:33] <mehevi> ChupaChups irssi for irc, xmms for winamp, tar for winRAR, pidgin for miranda
[08:33] <peertje888> What scripts run on booting time?
[08:33] <javaJake> oliver_g_, yea, just don't get too in-depth. :)
[08:33] <aot2002> anyone know why CONCURRENCY=shell causes HAL issue on reboot?
[08:33] <javaJake> peertje888, /etc/rc5.d/...
[08:33] <javaJake> peertje888, anything in that folder
[08:33] <encrypt3d> ChupaCups check out this link, it is great.  http://lifehacker.com/software/ubuntu/hack-attack-top-10-ubuntu-apps-and-tweaks-195437.php
[08:33] <javaJake> peertje888, in the order listed
[08:33] <oliver_g_> javaJake: nah, can't hold back now! i mean, xmms as winamp replacement?? I _must_ say that audacious is wayyy better ;-)
[08:34] <kruqnu1> Can anyone help me with burning an .ISO image to a cdr in ubuntu?
[08:34] <erin> Kitchie: Weird! I just did the sudo ndiswrapper -m, and it says file not found!
[08:34] <javaJake> kruqnu1, sure
[08:34] <rob-e> !!
[08:34] <bENDerdublin> hi
[08:34] <silent> kruqnu1, right click the iso
[08:34] <ChupaChups> ok, I won't waste your time now, I'll come and ask when I am installing Ubuntu, thank you all
[08:34] <erin> command not fount
[08:34] <javaJake> Hey bEEatWorK
[08:34] <LordLimecat> seveas: current script, run from shell: http://pastebin.com/d51428fcf
[08:34] <silent> kruqnu1, burn iso to cd
[08:34] <foug> with 7.10, do i have the option of importing folders over?
[08:34] <oliver_g_> ChupaChups: you should really try the livecd
[08:34] <bENDerdublin> just testing x-chat
[08:34] <LordLimecat> its killing off ventriloctrl immediately
[08:34] <bENDerdublin> cool app
[08:34] <erin> Kitchie: sorry, it says command not found
[08:34] <oliver_g_> ChupaChups: also, in livecd, there's the Pidgin chat
[08:34] <mehevi> it works bENDerdublin
[08:34] <javaJake> bENDerdublin, best of the best. :)
[08:34] <bENDerdublin> yes
[08:34] <ChupaChups> oliver_g_: I told u I tried even installing to HD
[08:34] <javaJake> ChupaChups, like I said, try it on a LiveCD first
[08:34] <bENDerdublin> its really cool
[08:34] <Seveas> /home/limecat/bin/ventrilo.sh: line 7: fg: no job control
[08:34] <kruqnu1> silent what do you mean?
[08:35] <silent> bENDerdublin, I'm on xchat right now, believe it or not
[08:35] <Seveas> there we go
[08:35] <LordLimecat> eh?
[08:35] <oliver_g_> ChupaChups: ... so you can contact us when the livecd is started :-D
[08:35] <mehevi> if you like that try bitchx
[08:35] <rob-e> how would you recommend setting up a mythtv box which is also a small web server?
[08:35] <silent> kruqnu1, right click on the .iso file
[08:35] <lgc_> astro76, there seems to be more eyecandy on Gutsy. But I doubt the user switching gadget is meaningful, if not insecure, for example.
[08:35] <LordLimecat> i saw that in passing, what does it mean?
[08:35] <silent> kruqnu1, it will be in the menu
[08:35] <javaJake> ChupaChups, for instance, your internet may not work, your graphics may not work. Test it first!
[08:35] <Seveas> how are you running this, just as a script inside gnome-terminal/kterm?
[08:35] <Seveas> LordLimecat, it explains why 'fg %1' doesn't work :)
[08:35] <LordLimecat> seveas: yes, for testing
[08:35] <ChupaChups> javaJake: I tried those before, graphics was slow
[08:35] <kruqnu1> there is a write to disc option
[08:36] <ChupaChups> internet worked
[08:36] <silent> kruqnu1, that's the one
[08:36] <kruqnu1> wont that just brun a copy of the file to the cd?
[08:36] <javaJake> ChupaChups, well, the CD is slow...
[08:36] <silent> kruqnu1, one second
[08:36] <javaJake> ChupaChups, the 3D games, once loaded, should not be
[08:36] <ChupaChups> javaJake: no! I installed to HD
[08:36] <kruqnu1> like as a data cd?
[08:36] <foug> with 7.10, do i have the option of importing folders over?
[08:36] <javaJake> ChupaChups, OK, taht's an X issue
[08:36] <silent> kruqnu1, no
[08:36] <erin> Hey, guys-- sudo ndiswrapper -m gives me a "command not found," and I can
[08:36] <aleka> am plugging my camera in (USB) and am getting a message that it can not mount the volume because I don't have privilages... never had this happen... I am the only user on the system
[08:36] <ChupaChups> the display was slow
[08:36] <silent> kruqnu1, it will burn the image
[08:36] <javaJake> ChupaChups, what graphics card are you running?
[08:37] <Seveas> LordLimecat, are you running it with bash or sh?
[08:37] <ChupaChups> :)
[08:37] <ChupaChups> Geforce MX-200
[08:37] <ChupaChups> old
[08:37] <kruqnu1> can you consider that a graphics card? :P
[08:37] <javaJake> erin, then you don't have ndiswrapper installed
[08:37] <hypn0> foug: read the topic
[08:37] <silent> kruqnu1, it creates graphics so I'd say so
[08:37] <LordLimecat> er, just using "ventrilo.sh" (its in my ~/bin)
[08:37] <kruqnu1> thats like calling a cave drawing a photograph :P hehe jk
[08:37] <javaJake> erin, run "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils" in a terminal, without quotes
[08:37] <LordLimecat> or doubleclicking the icon, and doing "run"
[08:37] <astro76> lgc_, replacing ctrl+alt+f7, f8, f9, etc... with a friendly menu, not sure how that's not-meaningful
[08:37] <erin> javajake: okay
[08:37] <javaJake> erin, unless you compiled it, which I doubt.
[08:37] <oliver_g_> kruqnu1: hey, that's the default graphic in office PCs
[08:38] <javaJake> erin, ...did you?
[08:38] <Seveas> LordLimecat, is the forst line of the script #!/bin/bash
[08:38] <Seveas> ?
[08:38] <MasterShrek> encrypt3d, isnt there a checkbox or something that allows you to open it in a terminal?
[08:38] <kruqnu1> guess its better than the voodoo 2 i run in my oldest computer :)
[08:38] <silent> kruqnu1, I'm using an integrated geforece 6150 :O
[08:38] <chris_> how can i mount my iphone in ubuntu?
[08:38] <erin> javajake: I thought I did that!
[08:38] <kruqnu1> i play games so i have to have good vid card
[08:38] <LordLimecat> seveas: i thought that was commented out, and useless? no, i dont have that up there
[08:38] <javaJake> erin, :P
[08:38] <erin> How can I check
[08:38] <kruqnu1> i have a 6800GT and an 8800GTS
[08:38] <foug> hypn0: so you don't know the answer than eh?
[08:38] <Seveas> LordLimecat, put it up there
[08:38] <silent> kruqnu1, I'm running an 8800 GTS @ 630/1800mhz in my deskttop
[08:38] <MasterShrek> encrypt3d, or u can put gnome-terminal -e 'commands to run'
[08:39] <erin> javajake: I followed the howtu to the letter, plus I'm on wireless right now
[08:39] <kruqnu1> nice, i haven't oc'd mine at all
[08:39] <javaJake> erin, hmmm
[08:39] <hypn0> foug: #ubuntu+1 might know, but it isn't released yet
[08:39] <kruqnu1> im finishing upgrading other components before i blow my gpu up
[08:39] <silent> kruqnu1, give it a try, they don't overheat easily
[08:39] <javaJake> erin, can you just run ndiswrapper?
[08:39] <kruqnu1> is that with stock coolers?
[08:39] <silent> kruqnu1, yeah
[08:39] <erin> okay, hangon
[08:39] <silent> kruqnu1, the stock cooler is good
[08:39] <LordLimecat> seveas: its up there.  Still, running with doubleclick-->run results in instant process death for ventriloctrl
[08:39] <neopsyche> MasterShrek: I have installed nvidia gui now
[08:39] <kruqnu1> unfortunately my cpu's right now are a athlon xp 3000+ and an 1800+ :P
[08:40] <kruqnu1> waiting for the phenom x4 then gonna see the prices and either get the phenom or the q6600
[08:40] <silent> kruqnu1, get a penryn core 2 when they come out
[08:40] <lgc_> astro76, what do you get with CTRL-ALT+F7->F12?
[08:40] <kruqnu1> sometime next month
[08:40] <LordLimecat> Seveas: and running it with doubleclick -->run in terminal results in both programs dying
[08:40] <MasterShrek> neopsyche, the gui config program?
[08:40] <kruqnu1> penryn will be above my budget i think
[08:40] <astro76> lgc_, that's how you change to different X displays, you can already login with different users by either adding the New Login... item to your menu, or doing it the old-fashioned way
[08:40] <kruqnu1> the q6600 setup im looking at will run me $505
[08:40] <erin> javajake: Sorry, there was a typo. sudo ndiswrapper -m returns this: module configuration already contains alias directive
[08:41] <javaJake> erin, are you using NetworkManager for internet?
[08:41] <MasterShrek> ndiswrapper....ick
[08:41] <neopsyche> yes
[08:41] <javaJake> erin, (because NetworkManager does _not_ like that particular module configuration)
[08:41] <kruqnu1> i dunno if i should get a core2 or a quadcore really
[08:41] <erin> javajake: Yes, I am. But I added "ndiswrapper" to some file that had "lo" in it.
[08:41] <kruqnu1> i know the quad core won't give me much of an advantage in gaming etc at this point
[08:41] <javaJake> MasterShrek, it's the best way to get online IMO, since most of the time native drivers are unavailable
[08:42] <javaJake> erin, which file?
[08:42] <kruqnu1> but i figure it won't hurt much either
[08:42] <kruqnu1> and hopefully future games utilize quadcore
[08:42] <nightangel> can i talk to someone privately to help me to resolve a problem please ?
[08:42] <underwatercow> In SBackup, when setting the backup schedule, what does selecting "Simply" do as opposed to setting a specific time?
[08:42] <vmlinuz-> I'm running ies4linux and whenever I go to the website "https://www.onthenetsports.com/viewer.asp" That has a streaming video live which i bought. My IE Crash & hangs up in a sec. I ran it into a terminal to see the error that cause the crash and here it is, can somebody help me out? error here. http://pastebin.com/mbb9cf23
[08:42] <hypn0> kruqnu1: it will hurt your pocket :-)
[08:42] <neopsyche> MasterShrek: Yes
[08:42] <kruqnu1> because amd will have dual quad core features when the phenom x4 comes out right?
[08:42] <MasterShrek> javaJake, its a last resort
[08:42] <neopsyche> MasterShrek: yes the gui config
[08:42] <erin> javajake:  There was some file that I was told on #ubuntu that should be edited to add "ndiswrapper"
[08:42] <kruqnu1> well its only 35 more bucks for a q6600 over an e6600\
[08:42] <neopsyche> I installed system tools
[08:42] <javaJake> erin, /etc/modules?
[08:42] <vmlinuz-> nightangel: why privately, are you shy or something?
[08:42] <nightangel> when i insert a CD (or a DVD), i can't eject it after
[08:43] <quittt> !gusty
[08:43] <ubotu> It is spelt !guTSy :)
[08:43] <MasterShrek> neopsyche, you should be able to configure your resolution in there now then
[08:43] <javaJake> lol
[08:43] <kruqnu1> but if i were to get the e6600 i'd just get an x2 6000+ instead and thats like $100 cheaper than the q6600
[08:43] <MasterShrek> is spelt a word?
[08:43] <javaJake> Yea
[08:43] <MasterShrek> spelled maybe?
[08:43] <erin> javajake: I'll try that, hang on
[08:43] <javaJake> Well, UK spells things differantly anyway. ;)
[08:43] <kruqnu1> being a gamer im kind of an AMD fanboy, but intel is killing amd right now makes me sad
[08:43] <MasterShrek> heh
[08:43] <nightangel> no i'm not shy (we're in an IRC lol)
[08:43] <djm62> MasterShrek: past participle
[08:44] <vmlinuz-> nightangel: then say your problem
[08:44] <kruqnu1> thanks silent, it worked no problem, well at least for now
[08:44] <hypn0> nightangel: you tried eject command :-/
[08:44] <kruqnu1> now to try to reinstall xp
[08:44] <MasterShrek> djm62, thanks for the enlightenment
[08:44] <kruqnu1> my brother decided he needed to install some programs on my computer and totally loaded me with malware
[08:44] <lgc_> astro76 I didn't know how to use them. I only knew of the CTRL+ALT+F1->F7 terms. So how can you configure manually some access with, say CTRL+ALT+F8?
[08:44] <underwatercow> vmlinuz-: MY Problem is that I can no longer discern internet and reality... can you help me with that?
[08:44] <kruqnu1> so i went to reformat only to find my xp cd was too scratched
[08:44] <aolaus> I'm still having problems detecting my wireless card
[08:44] <MasterShrek> kruqnu1, you are aware that you will have to reinstall grub after you install windows because windows will take over your mbr
[08:44] <erin> javajake: That's it. It's still there. So why won't the wireless connect on startup?
[08:45] <nightangel> i tried all i can do : the Eject command in the contextual menu, and the button of my CD reader
[08:45] <neopsyche> I see a screen that shows layout .. it says 800x600
[08:45] <vmlinuz-> underwatercow: yes i can
[08:45] <aolaus> shows up as eth1 instead of wlan0
[08:45] <kruqnu1> actually i use BootIT NG
[08:45] <kazim59> weird problem... I installed g++ by sudo apt-get install g++ .... now g++ says command not found!!
[08:45] <javaJake> erin, what does iwconfig show?
[08:45] <kruqnu1> because i triple boot with xp/vista/ubuntu
[08:45] <neopsyche> MasterShrek: previous message
[08:45] <javaJake> erin, is wlan0 or some other wireless device there?
[08:45] <MasterShrek> kazim59, u should just sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:45] <kruqnu1> xp and vista don't dualboot well
[08:45] <LordLimecat> seveas, any thoughts? :(
[08:45] <underwatercow> vmlinuz-: Are you going to prescribe me some drugs?
[08:45] <minus> http://segra007.thg.se/files/cssourcelinux2.png <- I just wanted to "brag" about being able to play CS: source with Compiz Fusion on Gutsy Gibbon ;)
[08:45] <overlord> I am connecting Cybershot to the usb, but nothing happens
[08:45] <kruqnu1> apparently xp messes up vista's system restore files and makes it unstable
[08:45] <kazim59> MasterShrek: let me try
[08:45] <vmlinuz-> underwatercow: sure :)
[08:45] <overlord> any help??
[08:45] <MasterShrek> neopsyche, can you change the resolution, there should be a drop down box
[08:46] <kruqnu1> so i had to get a 3rd party bootloader to hide the vista partition when i load XP
[08:46] <aolaus> even with separate partitions?
[08:46] <hypn0> nightangel: eject at the command line I meant :-) in a terminal
[08:46] <underwatercow> Anyone in here use sbackup?
[08:46] <kruqnu1> yup
[08:46] <kruqnu1> it messes up the vista partition
[08:46] <nightangel> how do you do that ?
[08:46] <erin> javajake: Here's the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/m70f72fb3
[08:46] <nightangel> (i'm in the terminal)
[08:46] <MasterShrek> kruqnu1, its not like microsoft to make things work so easily together
[08:46] <kruqnu1> that and it enables me to have 6 primary partitions
[08:46] <darkchr0n0s> kruqnu1 : why would anyone want 2 windoze on same PC :S
[08:46] <kruqnu1> for directx10
[08:46] <darkchr0n0s> kruqnu1 : just use vista then
[08:46] <kruqnu1> but vista sucks at everything else so anything not dx10 i run in XP
[08:47] <darkchr0n0s> hah..
[08:47] <vmlinuz-> how to run a streaming video in mplayer.
[08:47] <hypn0> nightangel: type man eject
[08:47] <kruqnu1> vista performance is bleh so i use XP for other stuff
[08:47] <encrypt3d> MasterShrek, do you have the launcher text, i apologize i am still learning bash
[08:47] <underwatercow> I have XP and Vista on this computer, though I have no idea why yet... I guess I figure that it might be useful... someday... if only wine could run all my games, I would never need windows
[08:47] <kruqnu1> my ping, audio, fps is signifigantly worse in vista
[08:47] <darkchr0n0s> kruqnu1 : get a OD'ed PC, the performance won't go bad
[08:47] <kruqnu1> OD'ed?
[08:47] <javaJake> erin, lemme look
[08:47] <aolaus> anyone, wireless problem?
[08:47] <hypn0> erm, I think its something like eject /dev/cdrom nightangel or something like that, someone please correct me :-)
[08:47] <kruqnu1> u mean oc'd?
[08:48] <erin> javaJake: Thanks!
[08:48] <darkchr0n0s> quad core, 8800GTX ultra, 4GB ram etc etc
[08:48] <overlord> I am connecting Cybershot to the USB, but it is unable to mount. Any help??
[08:48] <bENDerdublin> can somebody tell me where i can get some cool scripts for x-chat ?
[08:48] <MasterShrek> encrypt3d, not really, i dont even know what you are trying to run anymore lol
[08:48] <kruqnu1> lol i can't afford an 8800GTX ultra :P
[08:48] <vmlinuz-> am I invisible?
[08:48] <Fryguy--> bENDerdublin: wrong channel
[08:48] <darkchr0n0s> same here :(
[08:48] <kruqnu1> i had to settle for an 8800GTS 640meg
[08:48] <bENDerdublin> oh
[08:48] <bENDerdublin> ok
[08:48] <kruqnu1> but its good enuf i guess for a year or two
[08:48] <ingrid> Anyone good with ubuntu and Toshiba A200 wireless network not functionin?
[08:48] <MasterShrek> aolaus, what kinda wireless problem?
[08:48] <kruqnu1> then i'll probably get a geforce 9 series card or maybe geforce 10 if its out by then
[08:48] <MasterShrek> ingrid, what kind of card?
[08:48] <darkchr0n0s> i don't play games that much anyways .. s
[08:49] <kruqnu1> hopefully ill make more money by then lol
[08:49] <wckdkl0wn> bENDerdublin, try xchat.org i think they have a script section
[08:49] <nightangel> i see that i must type something like "man eject -R --cdrom"
[08:49] <ingrid> MasterShrek, I'm new at this.. not sure.. where do i find that info?
[08:49] <kruqnu1> im working on getting a quadcore now, with efficent budgeting i should be able to afford the upgrade with a p35 board on november 9th :P
[08:49] <bENDerdublin> thanks
[08:49] <riotkittie> oye my head.
[08:49] <nightangel> but it shows me an help message
[08:49] <MasterShrek> ingrid, alt+f2 > type: gnome-terminal
[08:49] <encrypt3d> I have a security vmware image that runs a ton of security apps via the shell, but they all require root privileges.  I am trying to run fping from the shell without being root and have it open in a new shell --  if not, no worries.  Thanks for the help as it is.
[08:50] <darkchr0n0s> kruqnu1 : wow, and i am happy with a T7100 :(
[08:50] <kruqnu1> but im kinda stalling untill the penryn or phenom x4 comes out and hopefully will be able to get a good quadcore setup cheaper
[08:50] <javaJake> erin, that looks fine
[08:50] <hypn0> no not man, that's the manual pages for commands, try eject /dev/cdrom first nightangel
[08:50] <javaJake> erin, are you using it now, then?
[08:50] <MasterShrek> ingrid, then type lspci and it will give you a list of all of your pci devices, if you put lspci -vv it will give you more detailed information
[08:50] <kruqnu1> yea but i only upgrade once every 2 to 3 years
[08:50] <Fxyz2007> hi everybody
[08:50] <KristianDK> Greeetz.. Anyone who knows if i can install Ubuntu on my Nokia E61 cellphone ? :) :)
[08:50] <javaJake> erin, is your problem just that you have to manually start it up on boot?
[08:50] <kruqnu1> so i go for alittle more than i need when i upgrade
[08:50] <Fryguy--> kruqnu1: quadcore processors are under $300 now, might as well just get it now, if you actually want quadcore
[08:50] <darkchr0n0s> kruqnu1 : i upgrade every 4 years
[08:50] <javaJake> KristianDK, Ubuntu Mobile project? :)
[08:50] <erin> javaJake: Yes, exactly
[08:50] <kruqnu1> i do alot of gaming tho
[08:50] <Fxyz2007> i have a newbie friend, he has installed ubuntu, he wants to install ntfs-2g but he has no internet, what's the simplest way to install it? is there a deb that i can downlaod?
[08:51] <kruqnu1> yea the q6600 is $260
[08:51] <KristianDK> javaJake: I've searched for it, couldnt find it - thought it wasnt released :P
[08:51] <overlord> I am connecting Cybershot to the USB but it is unable to mount. Any help??
[08:51] <kruqnu1> don't have the money till next month tho anyways, so if 2 weeks can save me $50to $75 bucks its worth it
[08:51] <javaJake> erin, ok, check /etc/network/interfaces - any mention of eth0?
[08:51] <kruqnu1> plus i'd prefer an AMD chip anyways if the phenom  x4 is competetively priced
[08:51] <ganesh>  javaJake: how to install python-tk package
[08:52] <javaJake> KristianDK, I'd search "Ubuntu Nokia E61", then "Ubuntu Nokia"...
[08:52] <darkchr0n0s> wow.. and i am trying to buy a old second hand mobo+proc :( (in 35$)
[08:52] <javaJake> ganesh, I would think apt-get would work. have you tried that yet?
[08:52] <nightangel> OK, i try it
[08:52] <kruqnu1> ok im gonna go try to reinstall xp, see ya around again probably the next time windows shits out on me
[08:52] <KristianDK> javaJake, will just have a search
[08:52] <kruqnu1> lol i have a second computer as soon as i get this upgrade
[08:52] <MasterShrek> darkchr0n0s, i got a couple you can have, p3 450 mhz =P
[08:52] <nightangel> it does nothing :-(
[08:52] <javaJake> KristianDK, it's not too difficult, and if you don't get anything close to related first page, I'd say no.
[08:53] <kruqnu1> will be an athalon 3000+ with 2 gigs ddr3200 and a geforce 6800GT 256 meg
[08:53] <ingrid> MasterShrek - What kind of info am I looking for+
[08:53] <riotkittie> Fxyz2007: yes, you should be able to find it on archive.ubuntu.com, i believe.
[08:53] <darkchr0n0s> MasterShrek : i got 2 P3 1Ghz 133FSB ones :)
[08:53] <erin> javaJake: Here's etc/network/interfaces: http://pastebin.com/m6d38eb46
[08:53] <MasterShrek> ingrid, something about wireless, wlan, or something like that
[08:53] <hypn0> okay, I'm out of ideas, someone else please help nightangel eject cdrom :-)
[08:53] <kruqnu1> new computer will be phenomx4 with 4gigs, or q6600 with 4 gigs and 8800GTS 640meg
[08:53] <ganesh> javaJake:no i don hav installation file..can i do it using synaptic manager??
[08:53] <javaJake> ganesh, that should work
[08:53] <nightangel> thanks a lot :-)
[08:53] <MasterShrek> ooooh darkchr0n0s 1ghz!!! thats hawt! lolz
[08:53] <javaJake> ganesh, is your computer online?
[08:53] <kruqnu1> lol i just got a new sound card to go with some new speakers i bought
[08:54] <javaJake> :D
[08:54] <kruqnu1> but apparently linux and x-fi doesn't go together
[08:54] <ganesh>  javaJake:ya..
[08:54] <nightangel> thanks a lot hypnO
[08:54] <kruqnu1> so im soundless in linux
[08:54] <javaJake> erin, OK, is your network encrypted?
[08:54] <ingrid> MasterShrek - Something like this?     Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[08:54] <MasterShrek> darkchr0n0s, i wish mine were 1 ghz, 450mhz just isnt enough
[08:54] <MasterShrek> ingrid, that would be it
[08:54] <darkchr0n0s> MasterShrek : my great grandchildren will sell those as antiques ;)
[08:54] <kruqnu1> anyways later guys back to stupid windows
[08:54] <MasterShrek> im not really sure how to set that card up though ingrid, i think its pretty easy though
[08:54] <riotkittie> D:
[08:55] <darkchr0n0s> MasterShrek : i could have sent it to you, but the postage is >>>> proc's price
[08:55] <MasterShrek> family heirlooms darkchr0n0s lol
[08:55] <ingrid> MS... So that means my computer finds the card... knows it's there.. it just don't want to make it work..
[08:55] <overlord> I am connecting Cybershot to the USB but it is not mounting. Any help??
[08:55] <nightangel> i think that i need to repair the option that can open my CD reader
[08:55] <MasterShrek> darkchr0n0s, i got a 1.4ghz athlon xp coming, that thing will be a speed demon compared to my current file server haha
[08:55] <erin> javaJake: No, it's not encrypted, but I just noticed that eth1 is the auto, and my wireless is eth0
[08:55] <darkchr0n0s> nightangel : reboot and take out the CD while it's starting again
[08:56] <KristianDK> javaJake -> hmm, cant really find any info about where to get it, seems like it aint released ..
[08:56] <riotkittie> overlord: has it ever mounted for you?   or is this the first time you've tried?
[08:56] <erin> javaJake: also, when I click Connection Information, I get "Error displaying connection information: Could not find some required resources (the glade file)!"
[08:56] <darkchr0n0s> MasterShrek : lol !
[08:56] <ganesh> javaJake:ya..its installing..(synaptic manager..)thanx
[08:56] <javaJake> erin, OK, let me check that out
[08:56] <overlord> riotkittie: this is the first time i'm mounting a camera. other usb stuffs work for me
[08:56] <MasterShrek> ingrid, just because it sees it doesnt mean it will work, but that card should work pretty easily if u can find someone who has set it up you can prolly get it working in couple minutes
[08:56] <Fxyz2007> riotkittie: i can't find any deb, i find only bz and gz....
[08:56] <javaJake> erin, but changing eth1 should be changed to eth0, and you _can_ set it to only connect to one network on startup.
[08:57] <MasterShrek> Fxyz2007, for what program?
[08:57] <javaJake> ganesh, OK, if you can't find it in Synaptic, try opening System -> Administration -> Software Sources, and checking all the boxes on the first tab.
[08:57] <ingrid> MasterShrek... Have any tips to where to look? What to search for?
[08:57] <nightangel> yes, that's what i do when i would like to eject the CD, but i need to write a CD and it doesn't works too, so i think there's the same problem for the two bugs
[08:57] <javaJake> ganesh, Oh, OK
[08:57] <javaJake> KristianDK, yea, I think they just started it
[08:57] <javaJake> KristianDK, they announced it fairly recently in the ubuntu mailing list
[08:57] <MasterShrek> ingrid look in ubuntuforums search for intel 3945
[08:57] <MasterShrek> !forums | ingrid
[08:57] <ubotu> ingrid: The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[08:58] <erin> javaJake: do I just change eth1 to eth0 in that file?
[08:58] <javaJake> Yea
[08:58] <anessen> Hey, I've traced a problem with my wireless PCMCIA card to the wlan-ng drivers on my Prism 2.5 Senao card. It works without them, but I can't use network-manager-gnome to select which network I am connecting to. I think it's a configuration problem. Anyone come across this before?
[08:58] <javaJake> erin, in both lines
[08:58] <faLUCE> s there an audio editor for linux comparable to samplitude?
[08:58] <nightangel> i'm under Ubuntu Studio 7.04, and i had not this problem under Ubuntu 7.04
[08:58] <KristianDK> javaJake, well, ok, ill just keep on looking for something, thanks for your attention :-)
[08:58] <ingrid> Oki.. thanx for all the help.. I'll have a look there
[08:59] <pommer> hey peeps
[08:59] <pommer> take it you all use ubuntu
[08:59] <javaJake> KristianDK, try the ubuntu wiki, I think they have something there.
[08:59] <pommer> im a newby to it.. had it on disk a whiles
[08:59] <javaJake> KristianDK, otherwise search the Ubuntu mailing list
[08:59] <javaJake> pommer, welcome!
[08:59] <thread> Could anyone tell me why synaptic tells me I have linux headers 2.6.22-14 installed, but I apparently have <IP_ADDRESS> headers in /usr/src/linux/include ?
[08:59] <pommer> whats the deal with firewalls?
[08:59] <pommer> and how can i stop myself drooling over this os. its better then vista ffs
[08:59] <erin> javaJake: Okay, done. I wonder why I'm getting that weird error message when I left-click the panel icon and Connection Information?
[08:59] <ompaul> pommer, for a standard installed desktop no need for one
[09:00] <javaJake> thread, it'd be hard to say why without knowing what happened before that error, if you know what I mean.
[09:00] <pommer> maybe im jus screwed
[09:00] <javaJake> erin, about that...
[09:00] <ompaul> pommer, wrt the drooling no idea
[09:00] <riotkittie> overlord: are you using gnome? go to System Menu > Preferences > Removable Drives [or whatever it is under previous versions]  check the usb/camera tab and see if it's set to deal with cams. Alternately, open a term and mount it. I'm assuming it's got an SD card? in which case, i believe it's treated like a hard drive. at least my last camera was /dev/sdsomething
[09:00] <LordLimecat> pommer: google compiz, compiz fusion, awn, and kiba-dock :)
[09:00] <javaJake> erin, "Glade is the gtk interface designer."
[09:00] <hayashi1> 3R3R
[09:00] <pommer> google what
[09:00] <Samuli^_> I need help with my sound settings
[09:00] <LordLimecat> all of those
[09:00] <pommer> those the only firewalls?
[09:00] <LordLimecat> no, those for the drooling
[09:00] <riotkittie> Fxyz2007: ah D: sorry, then i have no clue.
[09:00] <pommer> damn i was trying to put outpost on here
[09:00] <pommer> lmao
[09:01] <ompaul> pommer, you don't need a firewall I said that already
[09:01] <pommer> how you know i dont need a firewall?
[09:01] <recon> Is there any way to find out which video driver i'm using? (i'm using either ati or fglrx)
[09:01] <LordLimecat> and yea, i think ubuntu has ipchains installed by default
[09:01] <riotkittie> Fxyz2007: wait. can you... are you using ubuntu?
[09:01] <erin> javaJake: Yeah, I saw that post too
[09:01] <loizos_aggelos> which is better? kubuntu or ubuntu
[09:01] <ompaul> pommer, you are doing a desktop its default is secure settings this is not anything like that crock you previously ran
[09:01] <kitche> recon: glxinfo and look at the opengl driver maker
[09:01] <Samuli^_> recon, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep "Driver"
[09:01] <javaJake> erin, :)
[09:01] <KristianDK> javaJake, ok
[09:01] <erin> javaJake: Should I reinstall something?
[09:01] <ompaul> loizos_aggelos, you install both and you choose
[09:01] <riotkittie> loizos_aggelos: it depends on your own taste. there is no real "better", only different. :P
[09:01] <javaJake> erin, one says they rebooted and it went away. :?
[09:01] <Samuli^_> or glxinfo, I guess. :-)
[09:01] <Bo^Dick> loizos_aggelos: i've heard kubuntu is suitable if your hardware performance is poor
[09:02] <erin> okay, brb
[09:02] <thread> javaJake, I'm trying to install vmware... it's installer script is asking for the kernel headers, and when I tell it /usr/src/linux/include, it says that that dir has headers for linux <IP_ADDRESS> while I'm currently running on (as the package manager/uname -a agree) 2.6.22-14-generic
[09:02] <overlord> riotkittie: ok, lemme try..
[09:02] <pommer> im sticking with ubuntu cuz... i dig the themes.. free software that blows windows. fact i can just about do anything i need to on it without the expense
[09:02] <thread> its* :D
[09:02] <riotkittie> NO. Bo^Dick. no. no. no. kubuntu does not belong on poor hardware. no no no :P
[09:02] <pommer> just worried about personal data on it
[09:02] <loizos_aggelos> the best look?
[09:02] <pommer> why im considering firewalls
[09:02] <astro76> Bo^Dick, that's the second time I've heard that lately, completely untrue, kde is as demanding as gnome, maybe xfce/xubuntu
[09:02] <Samuli^_> what would I need to do to reconfigure xine?
[09:02] <pommer> and x-chat is a bummer.. one on windows had colored names.... this one dunt
[09:02] <Bo^Dick> astro76: my experience of kubuntu is that it's buggier than ubuntu
[09:03] <Samuli^_> pommer, check the preferences before whining. :-)
[09:03] <LordLimecat> pommer: you have a router, right?
[09:03] <javaJake> erin, no
[09:03] <anessen> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40649/
[09:03] <kitche> pommer: the one on windows is unofficial unless you paid for xchat
[09:03] <riotkittie> xubuntu's the way to go on less than stellar systems, although xubuntu made me cry when i installed it. :x
[09:03] <pommer> what do i look for in preferences?
[09:03] <ompaul> pommer, it does if you right click on the active window you can change that
[09:03] <Bo^Dick> astro76: and hardly any software that's supported
[09:03] <pommer> and i got a broadband router yeah
[09:03] <Samuli^_> pommer, "colored nicknames" :)
[09:03] <LordLimecat> not to say software firewalls dont have their use, but i think people VASTLY overestimate their necessity for most things
[09:03] <hypn0> nightangel: isn't there a small hole in front of cd drive, if you stick pin in I think that ejects cd too :-/
[09:03] <Samuli^_> it's on the first page
[09:03] <LordLimecat> if you have a modern router, you have a internet firewall
[09:03] <javaJake> thread, OK, it must be a bad symlink?... it's very strange
[09:03] <kenjiru> subversion - what do I have to install to get ra_dav??
[09:03] <darkchr0n0s> riotkittie : why so ?
[09:03] <javaJake> thread, also, are you pointing it to the headers, or the source? :)
[09:03] <hypn0> I never tried though nightangel :-)
[09:03] <smekerce> murat
[09:04] <thread> linux -> linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic
[09:04] <Hilikus_> do winmodems work in ubuntu?
[09:04] <loizos_aggelos> does anyone know how i can participate my hard drive? i  do it but it  always has size only 8mb and i can't change it!
[09:04] <ompaul> !winmodems | Hilikus_
[09:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winmodems - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:04] <ompaul> !modem | Hilikus_
[09:04] <ubotu> Hilikus_: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[09:04] <riotkittie> darkchr0n0s: it was so. miserably. slow. granted, i did a xubuntu-desktop install, so perhaps it was tainted with pre-existing gnome items :P
[09:04] <pommer> oh fuk i was talkin in wrong channal
[09:04] <LordLimecat> Hilikus_: not sure about current versions, but i think gutsy may have better support on em, saw it in the release notes
[09:04] <pommer> lmao
[09:04] <nightangel> no there's not an hole like you said (i've got a mobile PC)
[09:04] <pommer> sorry people
[09:05] <ompaul> !language | pommer
[09:05] <ubotu> pommer: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:05] <Hilikus_> how can i tell if a modem is a winmodem?
[09:05] <thread> javaJake, totally wacked, right?
[09:05] <wckdkl0wn> how would i use sed to take the text from the end of a line and put it at the beginnging and put a | after the word or words that was moved?
[09:05] <ompaul> Hilikus_, most of the preinstalled ones are
[09:05] <riotkittie> but i didnt notice any improved performance over gnome, and it completely dragged in comparison to zenwalk's xfce desktop.   :P
[09:05] <pommer> only option i get when i click on a active window is copy
[09:05] <javaJake> thread, sounds like it, however, try running dpkg-reconfigure
[09:05] <pommer> hmmmm
[09:05] <javaJake> thread, (I assume you know what I'm talking about?)
[09:05] <Hilikus_> ompaul i ave a coulp of modems in my hand, theyre not preinstalled
[09:05] <nightangel> so...the only thing i've got to do is to go back under Ubuntu 7.04 (or Ubuntu 7.10 beta ;-) )
[09:05] <thread> javaJake, on which package ?
[09:05] <erin> javaJake: You rock!
[09:05] <ompaul> Hilikus_, external or internal?
[09:06] <pommer> yah im on ubuntu 7.04
[09:06] <pommer> with the screen effects
[09:06] <Hilikus_> ompaul internal
[09:06] <pommer> noice :D
[09:06] <riotkittie> winmodem. :o
[09:06] <javaJake> thread, linux-generic, or linux-headers
[09:06] <LordLimecat> pommer: compiz has even more effects.  check it out
[09:06] <javaJake> erin, eh, I try. ;)
[09:06] <ompaul> Hilikus_, so install them and play with the tools on that page
[09:06] <andy58> wooo
[09:06] <pommer> i will in time... gunna get to grips with this un first
[09:06] <astro76> Hilikus_, external serial or internal ISA is guaranteed non-winmodem, pci can be either
[09:06] <javaJake> thread, I don't remember which one does the symlink
[09:06] <andy58> hello all
[09:06] <Hilikus_> ok, ill do that
[09:07] <akincer> Looks like the Screens and Graphics tool needs some work. Had to hand edit xorg.conf to get dual screens working.
[09:07] <pommer> oh oh... i cant seem to figure how to get my wireless g belkin to work
[09:07] <javaJake> thread, actually, heheh...
[09:07] <erin> javaJake: Someday, I will understand Linux and Ubuntu enough to help others. Until next time!
[09:07] <pommer> its the lil usb ariel thing
[09:07] <ompaul> !wireless | pommer
[09:07] <ubotu> pommer: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:07] <riotkittie> pommer: what chipset? if you dont know, lsusb
[09:07] <ompaul> pommer, follow the madwifi info there
[09:07] <javaJake> thread, you might try reconfiguring your latest linux-`uname -r`-headers package instead
[09:07] <pommer> i know which it is
[09:08] <pulseezar> hi all, here's a problem for you. I installed ubuntu on my laptop a couple of days ago, and then installed windows xp onto a separate hard disk. After windows installed I no longer have the option to boot into ubuntu. Can I fix this without reinstalling ubuntu?
[09:08] <javaJake> thread, now that I think about it
[09:08] <astro76> !fixgrub | pulseezar
[09:08] <ubotu> pulseezar: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:08] <pommer> its the wireless g 56
[09:08] <riotkittie> ompaul: madwifi supports usb ? :o
[09:08] <daddy1987> hi kazim
[09:08] <thread> javaJake, you mean linux-headers-`uname -r` and I just did that ... it appeared to do nothing (not even recreate the symlink)
[09:08] <pommer> even googled the drivers
[09:08] <ompaul> riotkittie, for that oink of a piece of kit it worked for me  on three installs
[09:09] <pommer> supposed to get orriginal and re compile
[09:09] <pommer> o.O
[09:09] <rfgermain> hi i neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed help
[09:09] <pommer> bit above the belt for me
[09:09] <thread> (I deleted the symlink to see if it would remake it)
[09:09] <riotkittie> ompaul: ah :>
[09:09] <ompaul> !ask | rfgermain
[09:09] <pommer> got 48 metres of cable connecting me to ubuntu right now
[09:09] <ubotu> rfgermain: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:09] <Pumpitup> hmm when i try to open gl desktop i get a screen blink but it seems to close right after gl desktop i not enabled
[09:09] <daddy1987> wat is ubuntu
[09:10] <neopsyche> MasterShrek: when i look at the screen options it says "auto"
[09:10] <javaJake> thread, yea, sorry, a little blind right now... :)
[09:10] <pommer> glad this channal aint full of mofos wanting me to get nakid and send pics of my bum
[09:10] <loizos_aggelos> does anyone know how i can participate my hard drive? i  do it but it  always has size only 8mb and i can't change it!
[09:10] <pommer> makes a refreshing and welcome change
[09:10] <pulseezar> much thanks!
[09:10] <daddy1987> ask how to install beryl on ubuntu 7.04?
[09:10] <riotkittie> loizos_aggelos: participate?
[09:10] <pommer> <-getting tooo old to send bum pics
[09:10] <thread> javaJake, np.. thanks very much for trying.
[09:10] <kazim59> !ubuntu | daddy1987
[09:10] <ubotu> daddy1987: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[09:10] <ompaul> pommer, I won't ask you again - we don't tolerate that kind of language here
[09:10] <javaJake> thread, OK, looking way back, your symlink is set. :?
[09:10] <snow> i realize there is a general problem with multimonitor on radeon cards, is that correct?
[09:10] <loizos_aggelos> yeah split my hard drive in two
[09:11] <pommer> im congratulating you on a good channal
[09:11] <thread> javaJake, yea I recreated it myself
[09:11] <pommer> refreshing
[09:11] <riotkittie> loizos_aggelos: *partition*?  :P
[09:11] <source_scrash> #fcld in freenode (unix,linux )
[09:11] <loizos_aggelos> yeah sorry
[09:11] <loizos_aggelos> i'm from greece
[09:11] <pommer> you should check out irq.. bad stuff
[09:11] <riotkittie> loizos_aggelos: how are you trying to partition it? what are you using?
[09:11] <astro76> pommer, this channel and the community is one of the many benefits of Ubuntu ;)
[09:11] <javaJake> thread, OK
[09:11] <pommer> seems it
[09:11] <riotkittie> i <3 this channel.
[09:11] <pommer> how old you people
[09:11] <pommer> not that age matters
[09:11] <loizos_aggelos> elive
[09:11] <aolaus> only certain people would consider an IRC channel a boon
[09:11] <astro76> pommer, I'm sure it's all over the place
[09:11] <javaJake> thread, I was thinking about doing that, but since I don't like meddling with kernel stuff without a reassuring package doing it for me, I didn't mention it. :)
[09:11] <rfgermain> Hi am new to, irc, ubuntu, linux - fresh of the banna boat, but i want to know why the kubuntu i downloaded doesnt show up on my ubuntu? dont laugh if am just wrong
[09:12] <riotkittie> i remember my first venture into a linux channel. it was slackware related. and my unmasked host showed that i was on aol. that was ugly. <thinks back fondly>
[09:12] <underwatercow> pommer: We are all collectively 3,687 years old. ;-D
[09:12] <pommer> evolution is a bit of a pain
[09:12] <pommer> crikey
[09:12] <daddy1987> y we use dis crap??
[09:12] <pommer> i aint after that kind of info. but hey.. facts kill braincells like any beer.. and im all for beer
[09:12] <underwatercow> pommer: Hey, I like evolution! :-p except for a glitch that no one else seems to find
[09:12] <daddy1987> i mean ubuntu
[09:13] <pommer> well im on a pop3 rocker email service
[09:13] <riotkittie> if you think so lowly of it, daddy1987, you're free to uninstall
[09:13] <pommer> all smtp and pop enabled etc... got everything.. can recieve mails.. cant send though
[09:13] <ompaul> !offtopic
[09:13] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:13] <mobodo> by default, when I install exim4 on ubuntu, it doesn't start listening on port 25 for smtp connections does it?
[09:14] <thread> javaJake, I even installed linux-source, and when I decompress it, cd linux-source-2.6.22, and make menuconfig, the darn thing is <IP_ADDRESS> !
[09:14] <loizos_aggelos> i change the bios and read first the cd-rom  and  i  try to install  it  but  it say  that my second hard drive is only 8mb :( and i can't change the size :(
[09:14] <pommer> me hungrey
[09:14] <ompaul> mobodo, it does - yuou install a server your box expects you did it to run it ...
[09:14] <daddy1987> windows is so gud
[09:14] <javaJake> thread, ooohhh
[09:14] <javaJake> thread, are you doing custom kernels?
[09:14] <riotkittie> loizos_aggelos: have you tried partitioning with gparted?
[09:14] <javaJake> thread, those are beyond my expertise. ;)
[09:14] <ompaul> pommer, you are offtopic
[09:14] <thread> javaJake, no, this is a fresh gutsy install from the other day
[09:14] <loizos_aggelos> yeah itried but is still not working
[09:15] <mobodo> ompaul: ok, then something is wrong - I have installed exim, I can send mail from my box, but it does not accept connections on port 25
[09:15] <MasterShrek> neopsyche, it doesnt give you any other options besides auto though? if not u may need to be running that as root
[09:15] <javaJake> thread, Oh, OK
[09:15] <thread> javaJake, I only installed hte source to see what I would get... synaptic is telling me 2.6.22-14-generic while I'm actually getting <IP_ADDRESS> !
[09:15] <pommer> how do i find out (getting back on topic)... how much hd space i got left?
[09:15] <thread> all very confusing for me....
[09:15] <riotkittie> thread: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support. theyre better equipped to help you there
[09:15] <thread> oh yea?
[09:15] <javaJake> thread, it could be a package bug!
[09:15] <ompaul> mobodo, do this sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim and tell it all it wants to know
[09:15] <javaJake> thread, especially since Gutsy is still in beta/alpha/RC stage.
[09:16] <loizos_aggelos> plz what can i do?
[09:16] <thread> yea.. it's due in less than a week, tho, yea?
[09:16] <Plouj> hi guys, my sound stopped working after my last reboot, I can't find any error messages or logs that can indicate what is wrong
[09:16] <loizos_aggelos> i change the bios and read first the cd-rom  and  i  try to install  it  but  it say  that my second hard drive is only 8mb :( and i can't change the size :(
[09:16] <underwatercow> pommer: goto Computer in places, right click on Filesystem, and goto properties
[09:16] <mobodo> ompaul: I did, the only option I'm not too sure is "IP-addresses to listen on for incoming SMTP connections" - that should be <IP_ADDRESS>, correct?
[09:16] <pommer> size is.... unknown
[09:16] <pommer> o.O
[09:16] <riotkittie> loizos_aggelos:  stupid question, but are you selecting the right hard drive in gparted?   i know when i open it, it defaults to my DVD drive, and not a hard drive
[09:16] <pommer> well it was 160 gig before
[09:17] <akincer> Anyone else having problems with displayconfig-gtk?
[09:17] <mobodo> ompaul: ahhh! probably not :) that probably means only localhost can send
[09:17] <pommer> oh crikey i got another question... why is this dist only supported to 2008?
[09:17] <underwatercow> anyone else use sbackup? I can't figure out what the simply option does...
[09:17] <[MH] NarcismLapto> Really new to linux and command lines: "qmake: not found" what just happened ?
[09:17] <loizos_aggelos> no the left i think!!
[09:17] <rfgermain> what is kubuntu?
[09:17] <gnomefreak> akincer: join #ubuntu+1 for gutsy support
[09:17] <Fxyz2007>  i have downloaded the deb of ntfs-3g,  should i also download the dependencies?  and if i should download them, in which folder should i put them? it's for a friend of mine which has no internet
[09:17] <pommer> its the latest one.. yet the prior 6 vers. is supported till 2009 or summin
[09:17] <akincer> Ahh, thanks
[09:17] <rfgermain> i have this ubuntu?
[09:17] <ephracis> rfgermain: it is ubuntu with the kde interface.
[09:18] <riotkittie> brb. i have to go get my laundry, so forgive my silence. :P
[09:18] <astro76> pommer, normal releases are supported for 18 months, LTS releases are 3 years for the desktop, 5 years for the server
[09:18] <javaJake> thread, yep, it is.
[09:18] <thread> a bug?
[09:18] <thread> known?
[09:18] <loizos_aggelos> guys can you help me with this?i change the bios and read first the cd-rom  and  i  try to install  it  but  it say  that my second hard drive is only 8mb :( and i can't change the size :(
[09:18] <riotkittie> Fxyz2007: yes, get the dependencies as well, in case said friend doesnt have them. it doesnt matter which folder you put them in
[09:18] <underwatercow> pommer: Gutsy releases in 4 days, which is the new version
[09:18] <MasterShrek> wow compiling a kernel in ubuntu is extraordinarily easy
[09:18] <pommer> gusty?
[09:18] <[MH] NarcismLapto> Really new to linux and command lines: "qmake: not found" what just happened ?, I tried sudo apt-get install qmake? that didn't work
[09:18] <pommer> whats LTS?
[09:18] <astro76> !gutsy | pommer
[09:18] <javaJake> thread, possibly
[09:18] <ubotu> pommer: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 18th, 2007) | It is development software, and as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1 | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyGibbon for more information
[09:18] <Fxyz2007> riotkittie: thank you very much
[09:18] <astro76> !lts | pommer
[09:18] <javaJake> !LTS | pommer
[09:18] <ubotu> pommer: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[09:18] <rfgermain> yep am a kid lol can somebody spare 5 mins and talk to me private for help
[09:19] <lamego> [MH] NarcismLapto, you need need the qt development libraries
[09:19] <loizos_aggelos> guys can you help me with this?i change the bios and read first the cd-rom  and  i  try to install  it  but  it say  that my second hard drive is only 8mb :( and i can't change the size :(
[09:19] <Amaranth> MasterShrek: It also takes forever (if you use the package) :)
[09:19] <junkeR> is using Opera in Gnome inefficient?  Should I use it in a KDE environment instead?
[09:19] <astro76> rfgermain, ask your question in here if you want help
[09:19] <[MH] NarcismLapto> lamego: how would i go about getting those?
[09:19] <underwatercow> pommer: The one you are running now is codenamed Feisty Fawn, version 7.04... the new version is code named Gutsy Gibbon and is version 7.10
[09:19] <MasterShrek> [MH] NarcismLapto, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:19] <javaJake> rfgermain, please post your Q here.
[09:19] <pommer> ok... jus member i been with windows over 10 years
[09:19] <lamego> junkeR, opera uses QT, it will work just fine on gnome
[09:19] <Amaranth> junkeR: It just uses Qt, it's fine
[09:19] <pommer> well... 15
[09:19] <ompaul> mobodo, sorry I am now working on something else not available
[09:19] <kazim59> astro76: what will be the most stritking difference btw. gusty & fiesty?
[09:19] <pommer> im getting into it
[09:19] <MasterShrek> Amaranth, yea thats what im doing, but well see, im running dual core 64 bit it shouldnt take THAT long
[09:19] <mobodo> ompaul: np
[09:19] <junkeR> isn't QT a KDE library though?
[09:19] <pommer> yeah... feisty fawn is awesome
[09:19] <lamego> [MH] NarcismLapto, apt-cache search lib qt dev
[09:19] <astro76> kazim59, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/gutsybeta
[09:19] <underwatercow> pommer: It's like called Windows... Longhorn or something... ;-D
[09:20] <loizos_aggelos> guys can you help me with this?i change the bios and read first the cd-rom  and  i  try to install  it  but  it say  that my second hard drive is only 8mb :( and i can't change the size :(
[09:20] <astro76> kazim59, there's the highlights
[09:20] <pommer> vista the latest
[09:20] <lamego> junkeR, there is no problem on using KDE lib based apps on gnome
[09:20] <pommer> i hate it
[09:20] <pommer> slow down pc so much.. and aint worth it for what it does
[09:20] <Amaranth> MasterShrek: 64-bit does not help, dual core does not help
[09:20] <pommer> plus support is out for 3 years
[09:20] <underwatercow> pommer: I have vista, and I hate it, lol... but I used it for my games
[09:20] <kazim59> astro76: someone advised me not to have gusty but wait for the stable release...
[09:20] <Amaranth> MasterShrek: It requires raw speed
[09:20] <pommer> ONLY  YEARS SUPPORT ON BOUGHT GOODS
[09:20] <pommer> its a nightmare
[09:20] <pommer> *3
[09:20] <Amaranth> MasterShrek: And the linux-image source package builds like 4 different kernels
[09:20] <neopsyche> MasterShrek: still same running as root
[09:20] <astro76> kazim59, I would advise to wait, it's coming out Thursday
[09:20] <pommer> well i use the wii
[09:20] <pommer> WII WRAWKS
[09:21] <javaJake> pommer, we should stay on topic.
[09:21] <MasterShrek> Amaranth, im building from a tarball from kernel.org
[09:21] <pommer> UBUNTU
[09:21] <pommer> ubuntu
[09:21] <astro76> pommer, you should join #ubuntu-offtopic too ;)
[09:21] <underwatercow> kazim59, astro76: gutsy is considered stable at this point, but does not officially release for 4 days and is in beta until then
[09:21] <javaJake> :D
[09:21] <MasterShrek> !enter | pommer
[09:21] <ubotu> pommer: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:21] <pommer> yah... thats where the home is
[09:21] <Amaranth> MasterShrek: Using make-kpkg?
[09:21] <MasterShrek> yes
[09:21] <loizos_aggelos> guys can you help me with this plz ?i change the bios of the pc and read first the cd-rom  and  i  try to install  linux:elive  but  it say  that my second hard drive that i have participate is only 8mb :( and i can't change the size :(
[09:21] <pommer> oh
[09:21] <pommer> kay
[09:21] <pommer> :D
[09:21] <Amaranth> MasterShrek: Ah, should only take like 15 minutes then
[09:22] <loizos_aggelos> guys can you help me with this plz ?i change the bios of the pc and read first the cd-rom  and  i  try to install  linux:elive  but  it say  that my second hard drive that i have participate is only 8mb :( and i can't change the size :(what can i do?
[09:22] <loizos_aggelos> guys can you help me with this plz ?i change the bios of the pc and read first the cd-rom  and  i  try to install  linux:elive  but  it say  that my second hard drive that i have participate is only 8mb :( and i can't change the size :(what can i do?
[09:22] <loizos_aggelos> guys can you help me with this plz ?i change the bios of the pc and read first the cd-rom  and  i  try to install  linux:elive  but  it say  that my second hard drive that i have participate is only 8mb :( and i can't change the size :(what can i do?
[09:22] <Plouj> well, looks like it was the speakers problem
[09:22] <astro76> underwatercow, I'm aware, it's considered stable to test but still an RC
[09:22] <javaJake> loizos_aggelos, that isn't going to do you any good
[09:22] <pommer> brb... brace ya eyeballs for more not so interesting gobbly when back :)
[09:22] <astro76> !repeat | lozzy
[09:22] <dgjones> !repeat | loizos_aggelos
[09:22] <ubotu> lozzy: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:22] <ubotu> loizos_aggelos: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:22] <javaJake> loizos_aggelos, in fact, that'll make people NOT want to help you out
[09:22] <pommer> nah.. jus want to get to know the software
[09:22] <[MH] NarcismLapto> MasterShrek/lamego: thank you, what do I do after: "apt-cache search lib qt dev"
[09:22] <pommer> and how to play some of my pc games on it. like hl2
[09:22] <underwatercow> astro76: yeah... theoretically, nothing should change in the RC before it releases, right?
[09:23] <rfgermain> i installed ubuntu from windows......yeah bit of a change, for a start my old stuff doent work - i was told if i downloaded this kibuntu it will help me.... so i downloaded it put it on a cd and it updated some files and what not. Now i want to add some new codecs am programs and it keeps asking for the cd. so i put it in the drawer and try again and it just doesnt regocnise the cd? help please. if you can message me pri
[09:23] <astro76> underwatercow, hopefully there will be many little (or not so) bugfixes, actually
[09:23] <loizos_aggelos> can you guys just answer my question?
[09:23] <Pumpitup> how do i make compiz skip the blacklist chek?
[09:23] <pommer> can i play half life 2 on ubuntu?
[09:23] <MasterShrek> underwatercow, if there were no changes, why would it be called an rc and not just the release/\?
[09:23] <pommer> only bought it last week.
[09:23] <MasterShrek> !wine | pommer
[09:23] <ubotu> pommer: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[09:24] <imbecile_> anybody know what "null pointer exception" means?
[09:24] <underwatercow> pommer: see http://appdb.winehq.com
[09:24] <javaJake> rfgermain, try going to System -> Administration -> Software Sources, uncheck the CD in the first tab, and re-add your CD into the second tab.
[09:24] <adek> is there anybody have a ubuntu 64-bit kernel with dmraid45 patch included?
[09:24] <pommer> does it run the software fast on wine?... or at emulation speeds :/
[09:25] <javaJake> pommer, yes and no
[09:25] <aleka> is there a way to turn spell checking on in pidgin?
[09:25] <javaJake> pommer, it depends per program
[09:25] <daddy1988> hi ompaul
[09:25] <daddy1988> u asshole ompaul
[09:25] <javaJake> aleka, try Plugins
[09:25] <pommer> bioshock?
[09:25] <javaJake> !language | daddy1988
[09:25] <ubotu> daddy1988: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:25] <underwatercow> MasterShrek, astro76: Isn't the main point of the RC to test and make sure there are no bugs that require the delay of the release?
[09:25] <astro76> !ops | daddy1988
[09:25] <aleka> javaJake: looked in there.. didn't see anything with 'spell'
[09:25] <ubotu> daddy1988: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[09:25] <angloman> if I install 7.10 release candidate will i be able update it to 7.10 final or should I just wait?
[09:26] <astro76> angloman, you can update to final
[09:26] <javaJake> pommer, check winehq.com
[09:26] <kevin__> hello all. is this the ubuntu irc channel?
[09:26] <angloman> so i dont need to wait?
[09:26] <javaJake> kevin__, you bet
[09:26] <kevin__> thanks jake
[09:26] <angloman> astro76: so I don't need to wait I can get it now?
[09:26] <underwatercow> pommer: I have the 8800gts, and I still find it very useful ;-D I'll take your gtx though...
[09:26] <astro76> angloman, it depends what your goal is, in my opinion unless your goal is to attempt to find and report last minute bugs, wait
[09:26] <yoopernate2004> so i have the ati control center and everything i THINK direct rendering is enabled but ubuntu's visual effects under the system pref>appearance won't work.  it keeps telling me that composite extensioin is not available
[09:26] <kevin__> is there any way I can listen to the radio over the internet using firefox and ubuntu?
[09:26] <[MH] NarcismLapto> I can't seem to..  get this to work, I keep getting "./configure: 35: qmake: not found" ..  I thought you were feeling charitable. I find it useful from anything ranging from desktop effects to playing graphically intensive games both in Linux and Windows
[09:28] <underwatercow> Anyone in here try installing the Creative X-Fi drivers in ubuntu?
[09:28] <pommer> k... what graphically intense games are there on linux?
[09:28] <pommer> and where i buy linux games in the first
[09:28] <Mumphster> uhm quake wars
[09:28] <Mumphster> and doom 3
[09:28] <winchesterPAT> UT3
[09:28] <pommer> there linux o.O
[09:28] <underwatercow> pommer: You can run many windows games in linux first of all, did you look at the link I sent you?
[09:28] <pommer> yer im lookin
[09:28] <javaJake> pommer, quite a few
[09:29] <D0ug16> Hello, I have recently installed Ubuntu. Just a few moments ago I was updating the system, it crashed and I had to restart the computer. Now, It will not let me resume the update
[09:29] <Sp4rKy> !medibuntu
[09:29] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[09:29] <pommer> they say *linux like exclusive* on em or summin?
[09:29] <D0ug16> dpkg --configure -a
[09:29] <underwatercow> pommer: You can run many first person shooters, and a FPS in linux is Sauerbraten... or warzone 2100 is decent graphically... not sure about gameplay yet...
[09:29] <yoopernate2004> anyone help me get the desktop effects working?
[09:29] <D0ug16> Its told me to use that
[09:29] <riotkittie> D0ug16: have you run that command?
[09:29] <D0ug16> But it dosen't work
[09:29] <D0ug16> Yes riotkittie
[09:29] <riotkittie> oh guess that answer that
[09:29] <winchesterPAT> underwatercow: WOP is the best
[09:29] <pommer> sauerbraten
[09:29] <pommer> aint english then
[09:29] <underwatercow> winchesterPAT: WOP?
[09:30] <pommer> think i had warzone on the genesis
[09:30] <underwatercow> pommer: it is too, lol
[09:30] <winchesterPAT> i guess you dont play much ...
[09:30] <javaJake> aleka, http://plugins.guifications.org/trac/wiki/switchspell
[09:30] <D0ug16> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 23863 package `defoma':
[09:30] <D0ug16>  EOF during value of field `Conffiles' (missing final newline)
[09:30] <pommer> well.. dont sound my kind of english
[09:30] <D0ug16> Then I get that error
[09:30] <Lazzie> Hey. Anyone know a app to use in ubuntu to print system stats on gnome desktop
[09:30] <pommer> oh crikey
[09:30] <kevin__> sorry to ask again, but is there any way I can listen to internet radio using ubuntu?
[09:30] <aleka> javaJake: thanks
[09:30] <pommer> IM STARVIN
[09:30] <javaJake> pommer, try looking under games in Synaptic Package Manager - ton of awesome games
[09:30] <underwatercow> winchesterPAT: play what? lol
[09:30] <D0ug16> Please, would somone be able to help me here
[09:30] <pommer> brb... take care and lets fondle the effects key on my humble return
[09:30] <winchesterPAT> you dont even kjnow what WOP is :P
[09:31] <pommer> wheres synaptic package manager?
[09:31] <winchesterPAT> just the best linux FPS ever
[09:31] <darkchr0n0s> what is WoP ?
[09:31] <pommer> :(
[09:31] <winchesterPAT> i mesn free FPS