[17:03] <LukasM[m]> Conan Kudo: there is no plan to use COPR currently, but still your PR is much appreciated! thanks
[18:10] <Eighth_Doctor> Lukas M: you're welcome! I also hope this highlights the need to ensure parity between NM and networkd backends, too
[18:10] <Eighth_Doctor> RHEL doesn't have networkd at all


[00:48] <allyourbass> fresh 9.10 install, auto mounting usb volumes fails
[00:50] <allyourbass> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1
[00:50] <TheSheep> sounds like your sdb1 doesn't contain a valid filesystem
[00:50] <allyourbass> it does, its fine works on the other machine
[00:51] <allyourbass> ive tried 3 different memory cards all work
[00:51] <allyourbass> just not on this machine
[00:51] <allyourbass> same error every time
[00:51] <TheSheep> dmesg?
[00:52] <allyourbass> is there a paste limit in here?
[00:52] <TheSheep> what filesystem is supposed to be there?
[00:52] <TheSheep> yes
[00:52] <TheSheep> use a pastebin
[00:52] <TheSheep> and only paste the relevant bits
[00:53] <allyourbass> http://pastebin.com/m32fd9961
[00:53] <allyourbass> its my blackberry
[00:53] <allyourbass> not sure on the fs type
[00:54] <allyourbass> is there something i need to add/edit in my fstab?
[00:55] <TheSheep> looks like you are not first
[00:55] <TheSheep> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=672923
[00:56] <allyourbass> is this a bug? ive never had this trouble with previous version
[00:57] <TheSheep> looks like there were some changes with the kernel
[00:57] <TheSheep> you did all upgrades?
[00:57] <allyourbass> no i dont think ive run updates yet
[00:57] <TheSheep> I can see some people solved it by running 'locale-gen;
[00:57] <TheSheep> 'locale-gen'
[00:58] <TheSheep> http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=82176
[00:59] <TheSheep> another workaround is to put export EXO_MOUNT_IOCHARSET="" in your profile
[00:59] <TheSheep> http://old.nabble.com/FAT:-IO-charset-ISO-8859-1-not-found--td26263050.html <-- found it here
[00:59] <allyourbass> ill run any updates then give the locale-gen a shot
[00:59] <TheSheep> that should get you started, use google...
[01:00] <allyourbass> 10-4 thanks for the help
[01:01] <rlameiro> hi there
[01:01] <rlameiro> has someone here tried to install xubuntu on a iMac 233Mhz ? the first (or second one)
[01:01] <rlameiro> I cant run X
[01:02] <rlameiro> I tried to change the settings at the xorg.conf as some people said in the forum
[01:02] <rlameiro> but nothing
[01:04] <TheSheep> is that a ppc?
[01:04] <rlameiro> yes
[01:05] <TheSheep> you may try asking at #ubuntu-ppc
[01:05] <TheSheep> they are more experienced
[02:21] <allyourbass> trran all the updates and tried locale-gen
[02:21] <allyourbass> ran*
[02:21] <allyourbass> still doesnt work :(
[02:42] <allyourbass> im not finding much on google either
[02:42] <allyourbass> im finding lots, just nothing that seems to work
[02:55] <defenceminister> What is the service called that provides the login screen on xubuntu? And how do I disable it?
[02:55] <defenceminister> I thought it might be gdm
[02:56] <defenceminister> but when running sysv-rc-conf to disable it isn't enabled.
[04:29] <allyourbass> having trouble getting usb volumes to mount
[04:29] <allyourbass> http://pastebin.com/m2b1143a
[05:27] <TGM> I'm having some resolution issues with an old laptop, the screen is made for a 1024x768 res and the max shown is 600x800. There was no xorg.conf file (I had it configure one, it's in my home folder. Should it be there?) All changes I've made to various display properties have either been ignored or reset upon restarting. Anyone have any ideas?
[05:28] <TGM> Er *800x600
[05:30] <TGM> I've read that it could be a color issue, or a sync issue
[05:30] <TGM> I'm unsure of how to change or determine the correct settings for either of those if they happen to be the culprit
[06:36] <TheSheep> .
[08:20] <homebrewcider> Hi guys, my auto login doesn't work and I have to try at least 5 times logging in manually for it to work, how can I find out the cause of the problem?
[09:02] <maverick> how can i install a .diff patch to view mounted hds in thunar... as in this link : http://nomius.blogspot.com/2009/07/thunar-and-hard-drive-partitions.html
[09:30] <maverick> how do i change the default file manager to nautilus?
[09:34] <TheSheep> there is no such thing as default file manager, just use nautilus instead of thunar
[09:44] <shadeslayer> hi anyone around?
[09:44] <Sysi> !hi
[09:45] <shadeslayer> well i wanted to know how xubuntu would run on my P3 500 Mhz 256 MB ram PC?
[09:46] <shadeslayer> its a very old pc and XP just crashed yesterday and refuses to get back up,and ive worked with kubuntu and thought xubuntu would be the best alternative :)
[09:46] <Sysi> i think it should run ok
[09:47] <TheSheep> depends on what you want to do on it, of course, forget about rendering 3d movies in realtime ;)
[09:47] <shadeslayer> hmm.. will it be fast enough for web browsing and word stuff
[09:48] <shadeslayer> thats all that my family does on that PC :P
[09:48] <Sysi> crunchbang or lubuntu would be faster
[09:48] <shadeslayer> oh and sviewing youtube videos too
[09:48] <shadeslayer> *viewing
[09:48] <TheSheep> may be too slow for youtube
[09:48] <shadeslayer> Sysi: is lubuntu official?
[09:49] <Sysi> iirc yes
[09:49] <shadeslayer> btw love your home page : www.xubuntu.org :)
[09:50] <Sysi> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
[09:51] <TheSheep> http://xubuntu.org/sites/default/files/karmic_shot_front_0.png <-- forbidden
[09:53] <shadeslayer> hmm lubuntu looks like the thing...
[09:54] <shadeslayer> thanks guys :)
[09:54] <Sysi> minimal xfce is also nice, but it's mostly if you want xfce to something old
[10:10] <maverick140991> ok i managed to replace thunar with nautlis, but now i get an error  Unable to contact the Xfce Trash service on startup...i tried a thunar --daemon startup entry, but i get Unknown option --daemon
[10:13] <TheSheep> just remove the trash applet from your panel
[10:15] <maverick140991> tried, no avail
[10:17] <TheSheep> hmm... maybe it's the places plugin :/
[10:17] <maverick140991> TheSheep: do i also have to remove the trash icon from the desktop?
[10:17] <TheSheep> maverick140991: no, the desktop is now drawn by nautilus
[10:19] <maverick140991> TheSheep: i use nautilus --no-desktop, and xfce is the only DE i have
[10:22] <TheSheep> I don't know then
[10:22] <maverick140991> ok
[10:23] <maverick140991> thanks anyways
[11:35] <slow-motion> hi
[12:27] <subspider> hi guys
[12:28] <subspider> when try to extract files from a tar file it gives me these error gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[12:30] <knome> if it's .tar, why try to uncompress it with gzip?
[12:32] <subspider> but the comand was these  tar -zxvf AU.tar
[12:32] <knome> tar option -z means it tries to ungzip
[12:35] <subspider> thanks knome
[12:35] <subspider>  tar -xvf AU.tar works
[16:15] <lcb> hi. could you please point to me an article on how to use (activate/assign) function keys (Fn) to an usb external keyboard. (laptop pc=asus - not Eee)
[16:16] <TheSheep> lcb: just select your keyboard layout in the keyboard settings
[16:16] <lcb> TheSheep, i think i've tried that already and didn't work. let me try again :)
[16:21] <lcb> TheSheep, should i use 'xfkc' or 'xfce4-keyboard-settings'?
[16:22] <TheSheep> lcb:use settings->keyboard
[16:26] <lcb> TheSheep, on my installation that's 'xfce4-keyboard-settings' command for that. On the 'layout' pan i have [_] Use system defaults || Kb model =generic 105-key (intl) pc || kb layout [o] pt, and from here i get :o . what to do (sorry...
[16:27] <TheSheep> select your keyboard from the list on kb model
[16:27] <lcb> [_] meaning is not assign/checked
[16:27] <TheSheep> or select any model that has the keys you want to use
[16:28] <lcb> TheSheep, ahh ok, so i need to search any compatible with the one i'm using because it's not listed.
[16:28] <lcb> the only way i believe to do so is test each of the layouts
[16:29] <TheSheep> nah, any 'multimedia' one should work
[16:29] <lcb> good. that's a styart :)
[16:29] <lcb> start, i mean
[16:48] <lcb> TheSheep, sorry. for some reason the system rebooted and now i can't get to xfce4. it get's stuck on the login screen. i came here trough the console :(
[16:49] <lcb> in other words.. it asks the login session and pass then goes back to it after a couple seconds
[16:52] <TheSheep> maybe see .xsessionerrors
[16:53] <lcb> i did the system check on reboot already
[16:53] <lcb> i put the matter on #xfce. let's see what thay say :o
[16:53] <Balsaq> i would like to purchase a laptop that is on sale for 279.00. i once tried to run a desktop wireless with buntu and couldn't get it done. if i list the specs is it possible to learn-up front-if i can run xubuntu wireless on this laptop, before i buy it?
[16:54] <TheSheep> Balsaq: I don't think so, you may see the compatibility page on the wiki
[16:54] <TheSheep> Balsaq: but I would just take the livecd to the shop
[16:54] <TheSheep> Balsaq: and ask to try it
[16:55] <Balsaq> well the problem is, i am going to wipe out windows 7...and install xubuntu and i don't want best buy to know it or they may void the warranty
[16:55] <Balsaq> i dont run live cd i always install one distro right on the hd
[16:55] <TheSheep> Balsaq: try the livecd without installing
[16:55] <TheSheep> Balsaq: before buying
[16:56] <Balsaq> hmmm....well that would give a false positive becasue the live cd includes ndswrapper
[16:56] <TheSheep> so does installed system
[16:56] <Setarcos> hi
[16:56] <Setarcos> how can i change my sudo pass?
[16:57] <TheSheep> it's your regular user passowrd
[16:57] <TheSheep> password
[16:57] <Balsaq> passwd
[16:57] <Setarcos> from a gui how can i change this pass?
[16:57] <TheSheep> system->users and groups
[17:00] <Balsaq> i would have to think that an intel celeron 900 2.2 with 802.11 should be able to run xubuntu wireless...its so cheap at 270 its worth the gamble. i suppose worst case scenario i could reinstall windblows
[17:01] <TheSheep> what's "xubuntu wireless"?
[17:01] <Balsaq> i meant...use xubuntu on the laptop as a wireless computer
[17:01] <TheSheep> it should run just fine, unless it has some strange hardware onboard
[17:02] <TheSheep> take a look at the graphics card
[17:02] <Balsaq> 4500m
[17:02] <Balsaq> intel graphics accelerator 4500m
[17:02] <TheSheep> that 4,5km? that's large for a netbook
[17:03] <Balsaq> it has up to 1695mb  of intel dynamic memory whatever that means
[17:03] <Balsaq> but it is onboard not dedicated
[17:03] <Balsaq> so too me that means it runs the video off the ram
[17:03] <Balsaq> and it has 3g ram
[17:03] <TheSheep> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1237873
[17:04] <Balsaq> so it will borrow half the ram when it needs it i guess
[17:04] <TheSheep> how much video ram do you need on a netwbook?
[17:04] <Balsaq> i have no idea
[17:05] <TheSheep> are you planning to play games on it?
[17:05] <Balsaq> no
[17:05] <Balsaq> never
[17:05] <Balsaq> i watch hulu onlice vids and youtube
[17:05] <Balsaq> surf the net and this chat
[17:05] <Balsaq> inlice=online
[17:05] <TheSheep> should be ok
[17:06] <Balsaq> i would thinks so...i just have never successfully did  the ndswrapper yet
[17:06] <Balsaq> i think i kept searching for drivers and never actually knew about the ndswrapper when i tried it
[17:07] <Balsaq> it seems to all about ndswrapper
[17:07] <Balsaq> brb
[17:11] <Balsaq> k
[17:23] <Balsaq> oh its not a netbook its a 15.4 inch laptop
[17:43] <KOlosman> hey i just installed and updated xubuntu
[17:43] <KOlosman> what are the essential packages that i need to get now?
[17:44] <Sysi> xubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:44] <KOlosman> besides that anything else?
[17:45] <KOlosman> for media, etc
[17:45] <Sysi> no
[17:45] <KOlosman> ty
[17:45] <Sysi> vlc maybe
[17:46] <Sysi> and if you have some favourite music player
[17:48] <KOlosman> k
[17:52] <KOlosman> Sysi, so when i try to run something is the default program
[17:52] <KOlosman> selected?
[17:53] <KOlosman> by the way do i need to do anything else in xubuntu to able to do most things?
[17:54] <KOlosman> any other must programs that i have to get?
[18:40] <kolasis> hi i installed my nvidia driver from hardware drivers
[18:40] <kolasis> but it failed, i got an error on boot
[18:40] <kolasis> now i cant login
[18:40] <kolasis> to my user
[18:40] <kolasis> do i have to remove the driver or what?
[18:43] <kolasis> Help please
[18:44] <ochosi> kolasis, first: what error do you get?
[18:44] <kolasis>  I install my recommended video drivers from hardware drivers gui, and i got an error on boot regarding the nvidia driver. Now when i get to my login screen i cant login (i return to the same screen when i try). What to do
[18:45] <ochosi> yes, i understood that part, i just wanted to know what error message you get at boot to figure out what's wrong
[18:45] <kolasis> ochosi, i dont remember
[18:45] <kolasis> it said i may have to update my configuration settings or smomething
[18:45] <kolasis> its an old pc
[18:45] <kolasis> nvidia 5200 fx geforce its gpu
[18:46] <ochosi> hm, without knowing that i can only tell you how to get your login back
[18:46] <kolasis> version 173 i installed
[18:46] <kolasis> ochosi, how?
[18:46] <ochosi> when the boot fails, go to a terminal with ctrl + alt + f2 and log in
[18:46] <kolasis> yes
[18:46] <kolasis> i did that
[18:46] <kolasis> ctrl alt f1
[18:47] <kolasis> i am at the prompt now
[18:47] <ochosi> (actually the numbers f1-f6 can be used for that)
[18:47] <ochosi> (it doesn't matter which one you actually use)
[18:47] <kolasis> yeah
[18:47] <ochosi> then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, e.g. with "sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[18:47] <kolasis> shouldnt i remove the nvidia driver in order to use the nouveau?
[18:48] <ochosi> in Section "Device" there's "driver"
[18:48] <ochosi> there you replace "nvidia" with "vesa"
[18:48] <ochosi> oh, btw, i forgot an editor in the command, so use something like "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[18:48] <kolasis> yeah
[18:49] <ochosi> then save the file and "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" should take you back to your login
[18:49] <kolasis> what if i just remove
[18:49] <kolasis> my nvidia driver package?
[18:49] <kolasis> and unistall it
[18:50] <ochosi> you still might have to edit xorg.conf, but you can additionally do that if you want
[18:50] <ochosi> (ubuntu is relying on xorg.conf less and less with each version so maybe you wouldn't have to change the driver value in xorg.conf after uninstalling)
[18:51] <kolasis> ok how can i uninstall it then?
[18:51] <kolasis> and then try your solution of editing
[18:51] <ochosi> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx-173
[18:52] <kolasis> btw in the hardware gui
[18:52] <kolasis> there was driver 96 also available
[18:52] <kolasis> but it wasnt recommended, should i try it?
[18:53] <kolasis> which is the appropriate one for nvidia geforce 5200fx
[18:53] <kolasis> ?
[18:53] <ochosi> i don't know tbh
[18:54] <kolasis> is the recommended one
[18:54] <kolasis> always the correct?
[18:56] <ochosi> kolasis, your question is too generic and as long as you don't even know (or can't tell) what went wrong with 173 i don't see a point here
[18:56] <kolasis> k
[18:59] <kolasis> ochosi, i removed that driver
[18:59] <kolasis> and rebooting
[18:59] <kolasis> if it fails i will edit xorg
[18:59] <kolasis> to use vesa
[18:59] <ochosi> k
[19:06] <kolasis> ochosi, it says an error
[19:06] <kolasis> and its running on low graphics mode
[19:13] <kolasis> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-173
[19:26] <kolasis> how can i install nouveau driver?
[19:31] <kolasis> DOES UBUNTU USE NV DRIVER OR NOUVEAU?
[19:31] <Sysi> have you tried if google knows
[19:40] <kolasis> failed to load nvidia module, no drivers exist
[19:40] <kolasis> i get this
[19:40] <kolasis> on boot
[19:43] <kolasis> HELP
[19:48] <Aquina> Hy! Short question. After I searched half the web I still don't know wheter it's sufficient to run GParted from a LiveCD and resize an existing extended partition and a logival volume inside it.
[19:48] <charlie-tca> !nouveau
[19:49] <Aquina> Will I have to make any changes within the system then?
[19:49] <charlie-tca> kolasis: default driver installed is nv
[19:50] <charlie-tca> Aquina: I have done that, and as long as I did not delete or move the partition, it worked here
[19:50] <charlie-tca> I had to manually add the new logical volume, of course
[19:50] <Aquina> thanks. But wil I change something within /etc/ or rerun tune2fs or something thelike?
[19:51] <kolasis> charlie-tca, can i update to 9.10 and use nouveau?
[19:52] <charlie-tca> I don't really know. I run nvidia cards, but I don't change the default driver yet. Last time I tried, it failed.
[19:52] <charlie-tca> You can run the nvidia drivers in lucid by installing them manually, though
[19:53] <charlie-tca> Aquina: for the existing partitions?
[19:53] <charlie-tca> I did not have to do anything after resizing
[20:11] <Aquina> no lvm installed, yes it's an existing partition I only wanna extend my /dev/sda6 (/home)
[20:13] <charlie-tca> That should work then. I did that, making my /home twice as big, with no problems
[20:14] <Aquina> ok, thanks alot! :-)
[20:15] <charlie-tca> yw
[20:15] <charlie-tca> good luck
[20:20] <Aquina> :)
[20:36] <landiscr> Hello I need some help with my xubuntu desktop
[20:38] <landiscr> Hi I need some help with my xubuntu desktop
[20:39] <knome> !ask | landiscr
[20:40] <landiscr> ok I am using xubuntu and have lost the taskbar at the top of my screen. how do I get it back?
[20:40] <knome> !panels | landiscr
[20:41] <knome> charlie-tca, hey, i could remember the bot for this :P
[20:42] <landiscr> that worked. thank you thank you
[20:42] <knome> np.
[20:53] <charlie-tca> knome: nice :)
[22:12] <Aquina> Hmmm... (<ubottu> landiscr: Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel) I'd recommend to ad an ampersand (&) at the end to decuple it from the current shell.
[22:13] <Aquina> or didn't you mean a shell? What is alt+f2 in default installation for?
[22:13] <charlie-tca> Alt+2 runs a separate command window; I think it bypasses the shell
[22:14] <Aquina> hm ok
[22:15] <Aquina> so the started xfce4-panel process is probably dependant on the undelying xfce4-dektop proccess or something...
[22:19] <charlie-tca> I would guess xfwm, but I don't really know.
[22:31] <Aquina> charlie-tca: What do you think about using SSD drives with hardy? Is it true they become slower? Will I need a LKM?
[22:34] <charlie-tca> I don't know. I haven't tried them with any version.
[22:34] <charlie-tca> My equipment seems to think they are nice to have, but are sort of an after thought.
[22:35] <Aquina> hm.
[22:53] <slow-motion> n8
[23:57] <challman> hey, can anyone help me with a new install and video problems? I've got an older system with an ATI Radeon 9000 & DVI attached LCD. when it boots after install, I do see things on the screen right up to before the logon screen but the LCD shows out of range
[23:57] <challman> i just installed xubuntu 9.10 and all the updates