[00:00] <mdel> No Cachine mode page present
[00:00] <mdel> Assuming Drive cache: write through
[00:00] <mdel> caching*
[00:01] <pepee> mdel, hdd problems? :/
[00:01] <mdel> nooo
[00:03] <pepee> mdel, nah, looks normal
[00:03] <mdel> it just hangs after that
[00:03] <mdel> lame... i thought ubuntu on mac was foolproof at this point
[00:04] <pepee> mdel, I think it's vesafb not vesa :/
[00:17] <mdel> pepee: no luck
[00:17] <pepee> :/
[00:18] <pepee> mdel, tried last daily build? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[00:19] <mdel> yeah
[00:20] <pepee> sorry, but I'm out of ideas :/
[00:24] <pepee> mdel, sorry, didn't know what refit is. followed this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation
[00:25] <mdel>  yeah im using refit to boot the usb stick
[00:25] <bjsnider> did you try the cd?
[00:33] <bjsnider> mdel, did you actually use a cd at some point or always a usb stick?
[00:33] <mdel> both
[00:33] <mdel> 12.04 11.10
[00:34] <mdel> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1442133
[00:34] <mdel> trying that
[00:34] <Thete> How do I add a user to sudoers?
[00:35] <Thete> used to be able to do adduser <user> admin
[00:36] <mdel> pepee: well, purple screen
[00:36] <mdel> something better
[00:37] <Thete> oh it's sudo now
[00:37] <mdel> pepee: still seems like its hung
[01:15] <mdel> pepee: think i got it
[01:15] <pepee> mdel, sorry, I was afk. what did you do to make it work?
[01:16] <star69> when it release 12.04?
[01:16] <mdel> pepee: nomodeset, and the non-efi loader
[01:16] <mdel> installing 12.04 now
[01:17] <pepee> star69, /topic
[01:17] <star69> ok thanks
[01:18] <mdel> 12.04 seems smoooooth
[01:18] <mdel> i hated unity in 11.04
[01:18] <sk1special> okay. install 12.04 beta alt. installing from thumbdrive created on a win 7 machine using unetbootin . to a blank hdd / core 2 duo / 8 gb of ram / 80 gb pc. goes partway thru setup then says
[01:18] <mdel> i still dont like that I cant make the bar go to the right side
[01:18] <sk1special> problem reading cd rom.
[01:19] <sk1special> and gives me the option to retry abort or skip
[01:20] <sk1special> says a root file system must be mounted on /target. partitioner should have auto done
[01:20] <sk1special> any help?
[01:21] <bjsnider> download and burn a new one
[01:23] <sk1special> haha. that doesnt help. downloading the beta from universal usb installer link suggested on main page now. is there a way to config with options i have here tho? gives me a list of installer components possible to load
[01:28] <justdave> ok, think I found my problem here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/633983
[01:29] <justdave> according to that bug there's supposedly a separate image now specifically for amd64+mac
[01:29] <justdave> but I don't see it on the beta2 download page
[01:29] <justdave> the amd64 image apparently has an efi boot image on it, but assumes PC UEFI and not Apple EFI
[01:30] <justdave> and Apple's EFI chokes on the UEFI image
[01:31] <Thete> justdave: It's on this page http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[01:31] <Thete> oh wait
[01:31] <pepee> justdave, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ ?
[01:31] <justdave> 64bit Mac, there we go
[01:31] <Thete> there was a separate mac image, it's not there now
[01:31] <justdave> thanks
[01:34] <justdave> hmm, no torrent, and 2 hour eta on the direct download.  oh well, guess I wait. :)
[01:34] <justdave> dailies probably wouldn't have a big seed pool anyway
[01:35] <mdel> justdave what mac are you installing precise on?
[01:35] <justdave> intel-graphics mac mini
[01:35] <mdel> ah ok
[01:35] <mdel> its running great for me
[01:35] <mdel> after figuring out some bs
[01:35] <justdave> it's already got 12.04 on it, via updating from 11.10
[01:35] <mdel> nice
[01:36] <justdave> but then I tried to fiddle with some grub options and made it refuse to boot
[01:36] <justdave> doesn't even make it to the grub menu
[01:36] <justdave> so now I'm just trying to find something I can boot it with to go fix grub
[01:36] <mdel> reinstall or reconfigure it?
[01:36] <mdel> boot from livedc
[01:37] <justdave> livecd wouldn't boot.  hence the above problem :)
[01:37] <mdel> live cd should be regardless if your grub is fubar
[01:37] <mdel> boot*
[01:37] <justdave> right, but the EFI bootloader on the CD isn't compatible with Apple's EFI
[01:37] <justdave> hence the need with a separate image for Mac (which we just found)
[01:38] <justdave> need for*
[01:38] <mdel> yes use the amd64 mac version for sure
[01:40] <justdave> I should go downstairs and plug into the ethernet for this download. Half the slow download speed is probably my sucky wifi (I have a ton of interference here)
[01:43] <justdave> yep, that dropped an hour off the estimated download time just like that.  heh
[01:52] <snadge> oh what.. i accidentally right clicked on the close window widget
[01:52] <snadge> and it closed the window :/
[01:52] <datruth> Does the app screenlets install the gnome desktop?
[01:53] <mdel> hey snadge :)
[01:54] <mdel> something that bugs me... the buttons in the top bar are offset left of the window border
[01:54] <mdel> this seems like bad ui...
[01:54] <mdel> didnt older unitys have the ubuntu button there?
[02:02] <mdel> can i boot from a cd but use the usb stick for installation files?
[02:03] <mdel> im trying to install without refit but the standard bootloader doest see the stick
[02:04] <haru> !info samba
[02:04] <snadge> mdel: i tried installing 32bit ubuntu on an older imac (core duo)
[02:04] <snadge> i had to use refit because i couldn't be bothered burning anything
[02:04] <snadge> and just as well.. because it gets half way through the install and crashes
[02:05] <mdel> errors>
[02:05] <mdel> ?
[02:05] <snadge> just freezes
[02:05] <snadge> as in mouse stops moving.. cant do anything except power it off
[02:05] <mdel> oh hrm
[02:05] <snadge> whilst its downloading updates
[02:05] <snadge> so i tried installing with the lan cable unplugged
[02:06] <snadge> and it gets as far as update-grub .. then fails.. mouse still moves, but cant do anything
[02:06] <snadge> and doesnt continue
[02:06] <balazs> he
[02:06] <balazs> hi
[02:06] <snadge> was going to try the alternate install.. but started to lose interest
[02:07] <balazs> while installing 12.04, I am getting a wildly changing remaining time for the language pack downloads
[02:07] <balazs> is that normal ? sometimes it says 15 mins, then 5, then 50
[02:07] <snadge> possibly because your download speed is wildly fluctuating
[02:08] <balazs> sure, but there's no progress bar
[02:08] <balazs> and I have 100M down. is it normal for that part to take over 30 mins ?
[02:09] <balazs> btw I'm installing under vmware
[02:09] <balazs> if that matters...
[02:09] <snadge> i wouldn't say normal.. but its not completely abnormal either
[02:09] <mdel> its probably all the hype
[02:09] <mdel> it was slow for me too
[02:09] <mdel> ... wonder why you can just choose first...
[02:09] <mdel> cant*
[02:10] <snadge> i must admit im pretty annoyed that the installer tries to install language packs and stuff like that
[02:10] <haru> !info php
[02:10] <snadge> you dont get much say in the matter.. about whether you want them, or where they're coming from
[02:10] <mdel> php5
[02:10] <haru> !find php
[02:10] <mdel> haru
[02:10] <mdel> sudo apt-get install lamp-server^
[02:10] <mdel> for the whole jawn
[02:12] <balazs> any chance to have an install DVD instead of CD so that all that crap can be on there ?
[02:13] <balazs> or the 700M image is only for the beta ?
[02:15] <datruth> I've done unity --replace to try and activate compiz but its not working how can I go back to the default?
[02:17] <balazs> how long did it take you to download everything during install ?
[02:27] <datruth> how can I remove all of gnome?
[02:40] <flying_penguin> hi all
[02:40] <flying_penguin> i've upgraded to 12.04 and can't find where to change the number of workplaces
[02:41] <flying_penguin> does anyone know how to do this?
[02:47] <trism> flying_penguin: in unity or unity-2d?
[02:48] <flying_penguin> unity
[02:50] <trism> flying_penguin: ccsm/general options/Desktop size
[02:52] <flying_penguin> trism: thank you
[04:46] <fishcooker> hello fellas
[04:46] <fishcooker> Day -3
[05:27] <ztag100> It's coming out the 26th?
[05:31] <punzada_> I'm messing with it virtualized now
[05:31] <punzada_> fun so far, I've been stuck working in a mostly windows-only capacity for the last year and a half
[05:39] <ztag100> Is it stable?
[05:47] <etp> any clues on problem with private repo on upgrade? 11.10 -> 12.04 works fine but 10.04.4 -> 12.04 complains W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/..._Packages Hash Sum mismatch, repo is generated in 11.10 with apt-ftparchive
[06:31] <ioboku> hello guys
[06:31] <ioboku> i want to install latest 12.04 beta and then at some point do the auto upgrade to final; should there be anything I need to take care of. My hardware works 100% with FOSS drivers.
[06:34] <snadge> do it
[06:34] <snadge> you'd be a spaz to install 11.10 now
[06:34] <ioboku> most likely
[06:35] <snadge> well it will involve more effort to upgrade.. if you decide you want to.. in a week or so when 12.04 is actually released
[06:35] <ioboku> but any issue I should be aware of , in general I mean
[06:35] <snadge> or you could just install the beta now.. and not have to do anything to update to final
[06:35] <ioboku> oh, well; wouldn't a dist-upgrade work?
[06:35] <ioboku> from beta -> final
[06:35] <snadge> sure it does.. but upgrade from the beta to final.. would actually be easier/less problematic
[06:35] <snadge> right
[06:36] <ioboku> installing 11.10 is likely to be a waste of time if I try to setup everything the way Iwant to, I come into 'buntu from opensuse
[06:36] <snadge> then you definitely dont want to go anywhere near 11.10 ;)
[06:36] <snadge> fair enough.. in october last year or whenever it was.. it seemed like a good idea at the time
[06:36] <snadge> hell no, now
[06:36] <ioboku> one other thing; i read that blue systems is taking over the kubuntu variant
[06:37] <ioboku> which means that the underlying backends with ubuntu +unity get more attention
[06:37] <ioboku> does that mean anything dire for the kubuntu variant?
[06:37] <snadge> well.. most ubuntu users are pretty happy with unity shell on top of gnome 3
[06:37] <snadge> no.. on the contrary
[06:37] <snadge> canonical basically axed kubuntu from paid support.. because.. well.. various reasons
[06:37] <snadge> but a company has offered to take it on
[06:37] <ioboku> name the biggest one if you care
[06:38] <ioboku> avoid fragmentation in support services?
[06:38] <snadge> simplest way of putting it.. is it wasn't deemed worth it
[06:39] <snadge> unity is their focus.. people may hate it.. and there are other options if you are one of htem
[06:39] <snadge> they still provide gnome-shell and its classic desktop.. xfce.. lxde
[06:40] <snadge> you can still install kde if you want to.. its not like the choice has been denied.. its just not the primary focus
[06:40] <ioboku> people usually don't like what they don't get initially; i think i will wait for a year or so to see if unity is better or not (speaking public acceptance wise)
[06:41] <snadge> well.. ive been using it in 12.04 for the past few months.. and i finally get it
[06:41] <snadge> its stable.. its consistent.. and fairly intuitive
[06:41] <ioboku> not going to buntu because of unity, going because most of the people i know in the end switched to ubuntu because they wouldn't care less into playing sysadmin on their dev box
[06:41] <ioboku> :)
[06:42] <snadge> right.. its debian, but with a whip cracked over the devs... cos they can get lazy
[06:42] <snadge> release schedule.. vs when we feel like it
[06:43] <ioboku> my problem with debian is that I can't stand politics
[06:44] <ioboku> on technical grounds
[06:44] <ioboku> wasn't 'buntu started because debian was too lazylame?
[06:44] <ioboku> :"P
[06:44] <snadge> and anal retentiveness when it comes to licensing issues.. and the lack of consideration for a purely desktop focus
[06:45] <snadge> its because they had fundamentally different goals.. debian is linux for people who want linux
[06:45] <snadge> and ubuntu is linux for people who dont want linux ;)
[06:45] <ioboku> hmm yeah, well, no student time here
[06:45] <ioboku> gotta work in real life
[06:45] <snadge> im playing with freebsd 9 at the moment.. and its ridiculous
[06:46] <ioboku> used 'bsd when i was a student, long time ago
[06:46] <ioboku> nice thing, no workie if no sysadmin
[06:46] <snadge> well i thought i'd try make a desktop out of it.. relatively painless.. if you like gnome 2
[06:46] <ioboku> i just don't want to be a sysadmin, I don't want to mix and match testing, unstable and volatile, Idon't want windblows and most of all osx is osUx for me
[06:46] <ioboku> so what else remains...
[06:47] <Bronze> cable tv abd a six pack
[06:47] <ioboku> android?
[06:47] <ioboku> ha ha ha
[06:47] <Bronze> :)
[06:47] <ioboku> i just don't like to have to work for myself as a sysadmin with this thing; it was fun once, but not anymore
[06:48] <ioboku> so it is smurf - level ease sleaze I am after
[06:48] <ioboku> :)
[06:48] <ioboku> 'nyway, thanks, d/ling beta2 dvd iso
[07:36] <itachi_08> does anyone use here Ubuntu 12.04 LTS version
[07:36] <vega-> one would think so, as this channel is for that release ..
[07:36] <bazhang> !schedule | itachi_08 of course yes
[07:37] <itachi_08> yes but i want to completely erase my drive that has Windows in it.. the fact that ubuntu grub loader still displays Windows 7 OS
[07:38] <itachi_08> ubuntu does and is always installed side by side with windows...
[07:39] <snadge> so do that.. blow away windows with disk editor
[07:39] <Flywater> look this:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/919815,this:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/775034,and this:http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/202-ubuntu-acer-ao722,they are the same problems,and my lenovo notebook also has the problem,my CPU is APU E-350,load the default BIOS setting not work,i want to know when it will be fixed
[07:40] <Flywater> sorry
[07:40] <Flywater> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/919815
[07:40] <Flywater> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/775034
[07:40] <Flywater> http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/202-ubuntu-acer-ao722
[07:41] <Flywater> i have the same problem
[07:41] <Flywater> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/919815
[07:42] <Flywater> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/775034
[07:42] <Flywater> 12.04 has the BUG still
[07:42] <itachi_08> anyone here knows how to erase Windows system completely without having to appear in the grub loader?
[07:43] <Flywater> fix the mbr
[07:44] <itachi_08> how? i've got this problem on my netbook? tried tweaking it bud it doesn't work
[07:47] <Flywater> you need a windows system DVD,and boot from it,then enter the repair computer,and then enter the command interface and run:bootrec/fixmbr,then reboot computer
[07:48] <brendand> itachi_08, you want to actually delete windows, or just not have it appear in grub?
[07:49] <itachi_08> both brendand
[07:49] <Flywater> anyone answer my question?
[07:49] <itachi_08> well i have actually windows originally and i want to move to linux without windows appearing in the screen
[07:50] <Flywater> you can delete it
[07:50] <brendand> itachi_08, as Flywater says, you can delete it if you need the extra space
[07:50] <brendand> itachi_08, for now you can delete the grub entry. let me check how
[07:51] <itachi_08> ok am waiting and then how?
[07:52] <Flywater> anyone solve my problem?
[07:52] <Flywater> i'm waiting
[07:53] <brendand> itachi_08, what's in /etc/grub.d for you?
[07:56] <itachi_08> what did you mean brendand
[07:57] <Flywater> brendand:can you solve my problem?
[07:57] <brendand> Flywater, what's your problem
[07:57] <brendand> ?
[07:57] <Flywater> this  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/775034
[07:58] <Flywater> and this  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/919815
[07:58] <Flywater> they are the same problems
[07:58] <Flywater> and i have it ,too
[07:58] <Flywater> 12.04 has it ,too
[08:00] <Flywater> when it will be fixed?or ubuntu won't fix it?
[08:01] <Flywater> Win7 is fine on my notebook
[08:03] <Flywater> brendand:i'm waiting for your answer thanks
[08:04] <brendand> Flywater, i'm not sure. you haven't tried any of the workarounds?
[08:05] <Flywater> sorry,i don't understand...
[08:06] <Flywater> only when i enable network boot and set it boot first,i can login the system
[08:08] <Flywater> i only have the one problem,can ubuntu fix it?
[08:09] <Flywater> the bug is amazing...
[08:15] <Flywater> my god....
[08:19] <Flywater> brendand:are you here?
[08:38] <Flywater> who can help me...
[08:51] <alket> Hi , how do Install MySQL Workbench in Ubuntu 12.04 , it has an error on depencies ?
[08:52] <micahg> alket: can you pastebin the error?
[08:55] <alket> micahg, libmysqlclient16(>=5.1.21-1)
[08:56] <itachi_08> =^.^=
[08:56] <micahg> alket: that's not the version in precise then
[08:57] <micahg> alket: it's actually in the 12.04 archive
[09:14] <Dubaco> http://paste.ubuntu.com/942188/ Crypto disks still not mounting
[09:27] <sneumann> Hi, network-manager used to store connections in gconf back in 10.04 days. Upon upgrade to 12.04 they live in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[09:27] <sneumann> Question: How to migrate information from gconf to /etc/Network-manager ?
[09:31] <sneumann> Awful bug report, but this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/987059
[09:31] <sneumann> could be the same problem.
[10:49] <itachi_08> am back
[11:12] <zozy> hi guys
[11:12] <zozy> shutdown and restart seems not to work under 12.04 from the gui
[11:13] <zozy> is there a solution for this?
[11:14] <slipttees> Hi
[11:15] <tomodachi> zozy: this is probably specific to your computer, it works for me
[11:15] <tomodachi> maye you can try some kernel parameter
[11:15] <slipttees> after installing gnome-session shell's default ubuntu does not start unity. Deinstalei gnome-shell over to no avail.
[11:15] <tomodachi> acpi=force on your grub command line_
[11:16] <zozy> tomodachi: i'll try, thx
[11:16] <slipttees> too i cant purge fglrx-updates :(
[11:20] <zozy> weird, now it works..even without editing grub tomodachi
[11:20] <zozy> strange behaviour
[11:20] <zozy>  :)
[11:20] <tomodachi> zozy: maybe you got some update that fixed it?
[11:21] <slipttees> after installing gnome-shell, ubuntu default session does not start unity. unistall gnome-shell over to no avail.
[11:21] <slipttees> too i cant purge fglrx-updates :(
[11:23] <Flywater> why use gnome shell,don't like unity?
[11:23] <slipttees> no
[11:23] <slipttees> i use gnome classic
[11:24] <Flywater> so,why don't use fedora or opensuse?
[11:24] <Flywater> or mint
[11:25] <zozy> tomodachi: nothing changed
[11:25] <slipttees> no.. i love ubuntu. i use since version 4.10
[11:25] <slipttees> :D
[11:25] <zozy> i just rebooted it to try the grub setting
[11:25] <chmac> slipttees: Does gnome-classic work fine for you? I'm not getting on well with unity and thinking I'll switch back once I re-install Precise final.
[11:25] <slipttees> :(
[11:25] <chmac> slipttees: In particular, I have real issues with windows jumping workspaces when I run gnome-panel
[11:26] <chmac> But without the panel, my workflow is radically disrupted.
[11:26] <Flywater> well,i love it ,too
[11:26] <slipttees> chmac: i try purge gnome-panel, but doesnt work too
[11:26] <slipttees> :/
[11:26] <Flywater> and i love unity
[11:26] <chmac> Flywater: Do you use multiple workspaces?
[11:27] <Flywater> yes
[11:27] <slipttees> Flywater: unity is an OS X interface clone :D
[11:28] <slipttees> lack only spotligth
[11:28] <slipttees> :)
[11:28] <Flywater> is it?i think gnome3 more like OS X
[11:29] <slipttees> dashboard, Laucher, workspace
[11:29] <chmac> Flywater: How do you know which windows are on the current workspace without the panel?
[11:30] <Flywater> i...don't know
[11:31] <Flywater> unity has only 4 workspaces,it's...a question
[11:32] <chmac> Flywater: It's possible to increase the number of workspaces I believe, I was running 6 for a while, but the windows kept jumping so consistently I reduced it to 4
[11:32] <chmac> Flywater: I use the panel to know which windows are live on "this" workspace. I have different workspaces for different work "modes" if you like.
[11:32] <chmac> Flywater: Development grouped on one workspace, personal on another, clients on another, downloads / torrents / etc on another, etc.
[11:33] <chmac> Flywater: Without the panel, I get lost figuring out which windows are open.
[11:33] <Flywater> yeah,it is
[11:33] <chmac> super-w is helpful, but it doesn't tell me at a glance, and the order changes, so I have to really look at the windows.
[11:35] <Flywater> but i still like it
[11:51] <jst> hi! just fresh installed 12.04 daily build (21/04) but Unity 3D seems quite slow, expecially opening and closing dash and Alt-Tab windows switcher ... I'm on a ATI graphic card with opensource drivers... any advice
[11:53] <chmac> jst: It's slow for me, but I'm on an integrated intel chip, I figured it was just my hardware being left behind by progress... :-)
[11:55] <vega-> forget the 3d and log in using unity 2d ...
[11:55] <ubuntu__> Hey, need some help. After the installation of 12.04 from 11.10 failed, ubuntu cant find my SSD. Neither during installation or through GParted, someone who has some tips_
[11:56] <tetreb> I got error messages about wrong CPU vectors while resuming from hibernation. I looked through dmesg and pm-suspend but couldn't find them.
[11:58] <ubuntu__> Terribly frustrating that I can\t find the SSD anywhere >*
[12:00] <jst> yeah ubuntu2d is very smooth... actually I'm on an ATI 1GB... I expect it would be good, I mean... gnome shell is fast
[12:00] <jst> windows is fast
[12:00] <jst> WTH unity seems so sluggish
[12:01] <slipttees> fglrx sucks! jst
[12:01] <slipttees> :/
[12:01] <jst> slipttees, i'm on radeon opensource
[12:01] <slipttees> :O
[12:01] <krababbel> an opengl game was very slow on 3dunity. 2d is fine, using binary nvidia
[12:02] <slipttees> jst: doesn't use restricted drivers?
[12:02] <sk1special>
[12:03] <slipttees> sk1special: cuda?
[12:03] <jst> slipttees, no, on 11.10 performance was better with restricted
[12:03] <sk1special> there we go now my chats working..first time messing with linux. all you have to do to get a desktop is install gnome yeah?
[12:04] <sk1special> and what?
[12:04] <krababbel> I read that linux is clumsy regarding GPU acceleration for window managers
[12:05] <krababbel> a patchwork on old standards
[12:05] <sk1special> okay i just downloaded and installd gnome.. now ?
[12:06] <krababbel> sk1special: install gdm
[12:07] <Lace57> !find yakuake
[12:08] <Total]> How to erase an invisible SSD with old ubuntu installation
[12:08] <Lace57> !info yakuake
[12:09] <slipttees> !sis
[12:09] <slipttees> sis 671/771
[12:09] <slipttees> :D
[12:13] <murlidhar> can't the launcher hide only when the app is maximised ?
[12:13] <sk1special> how so ? tried sudo apt-get/ install no go
[12:13] <sk1special> gdm*
[12:18] <slipttees> sk1special: ligthdm
[12:18] <slipttees> !sis771
[12:20] <sk1special> ahh i just had to restart i guess. funny how this looks like win 8
[12:20] <stuntman_dan> hey is anyone around that can give me a quick tutorial on wine...? I used it a few years back and remember it being really easy but I seem to be a little bit lost... haha
[12:24] <Stanley00> stuntman_dan: what do you want to do with wine?
[12:24] <stuntman_dan> I'm reading through here http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=149 but it does't actually say how you actually install it...
[12:24] <stuntman_dan> just tryin to install starcraft
[12:24] <stuntman_dan> I have the iso mounted and everything, I am just unsure on where exactly to proceed from here haha
[12:25] <Stanley00> stuntman_dan: how about double click the setup.exe file or so?
[12:25] <stuntman_dan> that's it?
[12:25] <stuntman_dan> of course it would be something easy like that... hahahaha
[12:26] <Stanley00> stuntman_dan: I don't know, but it rate as gold, so I just try the easiest way first :D
[12:26] <stuntman_dan> for some reason I remembered opening a virtual desktop and doing something in there, but maybe things have changed
[12:26] <stuntman_dan> Stanley00, seems to work perfectly, thanks
[12:26] <Stanley00> stuntman_dan: you are welcome ;)
[12:31] <stuntman_dan> hm well it installed fine but now wine is giving me an invalid parameters error...
[12:41] <sk1special> hey so i update my display driver using the recommended one and restarted now its only seeign one display.
[12:42] <jst> may fglrx improve performance on unity?
[12:48] <sk1special> you know how i can fix it?
[12:53] <Stanley00> sk1special: are you using ATI or Nvidia video card?
[12:56] <sk1special> Nvidia. The screens auto detected and ran fine. but i checked for updates and had two listed. ran / activated the one that sais " recommended " and restarted. now it can only detect the one screen
[12:59] <sk1special> okay. i deactivated the update and restarted..and they both work again. but theres a eh. 20 second pause where its just horizontal lines on start up. and it says i need the update on for good quslity graphics
[12:59] <sk1special> quality*
[12:59] <Stanley00> sk1special: well, I just have ATI card, so I cant help you now. Sorry.
[13:01] <Stanley00> sk1special: in my case, I have to run some ati-init scripts to add something to xorg.conf. Maybe you should look for that too.
[13:02] <sk1special> ah sall good. yeah i dont really play pc games..360. but ima check some videos now to see seems to work okay besides the weird start up
[13:04] <sk1special> do you know anything about installing this on android?
[13:23] <APoulos> hello all
[13:27] <APoulos> so.
[13:27] <APoulos> here's my issue
[13:27] <APoulos> its very simple
[13:27] <APoulos> I wrote this rsync command: rsync --progress -rEog --exclude="home/alex/Videos" /home/alex /media/backup/12.04-Precise-backup_4.23.2012/
[13:28] <APoulos> the only issue is that it keeps creating the Videos folder
[13:28] <APoulos> and even reading some of the man pages, there aren't very direct examples..
[13:31] <APoulos> well that was an unexpected disconnection.
[13:35] <bjsnider> APoulos, the path doesn't seem quite right to me
[13:35] <bjsnider> "home/alex/Videos"?
[13:36] <APoulos> i tried this as well: rsync --progress -rEog --exclude="/home/alex/Videos" /home/alex /media/backup/12.04-Precise-backup_4.23.2012/
[13:36] <bjsnider> why is it in quotes?
[13:36] <APoulos> because thats how it was written in the rsync manuals...?
[13:37] <APoulos> or atleast the ones ive been reading
[13:38] <APoulos> bjsnider, whats your take on it?
[13:39] <bjsnider> i'm not an rsync expert but it doesn't look right
[13:40] <APoulos> bjsnider, well.. darn, do you know if anyone is up at the moment?
[13:40] <bjsnider> APoulos, http://www.silug.org/lists/silug-discuss/200704/msg00020.html
[13:42] <bjsnider> based on that, your syntax should be --exclude /home/alex/Videos
[13:42] <bjsnider> sorry, that should have a trailing slash too
[13:42] <APoulos> bjsnider, no worries, im going to run a test now
[13:43] <bjsnider> the manpage is wrong i guess
[13:45] <APoulos> rsync --progress -rEog --exclude ~/Videos/ /home/alex /media/backup/12.04-Precise-backup_4.23.2012/
[13:45] <APoulos> still included video file
[13:45] <APoulos> folder*
[13:46] <bjsnider> try $HOME/Videos/
[13:47] <APoulos> rsync --progress -rEog --exclude home/alex/Videos/ /home/alex /media/backup/12.04-Precise-backup_4.23.2012/ - this didnt work either
[13:47] <APoulos> ok
[13:47] <APoulos> I'll try that
[13:48] <APoulos> bjsnider, nope --exclude $HOME/Videos/ /home/alex /media/backup/12.04-Precise-backup_4.23.2012/ didnt work either
[13:49] <bjsnider> are you trying to exclude all 3of those?
[13:50] <APoulos> yessir
[13:50] <APoulos> it says you can do it that way
[13:50] <bjsnider> you have to use 3 separate --exclude statements
[13:51] <bjsnider> --exclude dir --exclude dir --exclude dir
[13:53] <APoulos> one moment
[13:55] <APoulos> bjsnider, no the first half is set of inclusion statements
[13:57] <bjsnider> i'm afraid i don't see what you're saying there. but if you want to exclude more than one file or directory you will have to use separate exclude instructions for each item
[13:58] <bjsnider> tar works exactly the same
[13:58] <APoulos> bjsnider, --progress -rEog - these keep all the file info
[14:00] <APoulos> bjsnider, r is recursive
[14:01] <bjsnider> i'm afraid i don't see the relevance. i asked if you were trying to exclude those 3 directories from the command. you said yes. is that correct?
[14:01] <APoulos> no
[14:01] <APoulos> excluding 1 directory
[14:01] <APoulos> the Videos folder
[14:01] <bjsnider> ok, so perhaps the exclude statement should come later in the string
[14:01] <bjsnider> at the end, for example
[14:05] <bjsnider> there are some good examples here: http://articles.slicehost.com/2007/10/10/rsync-exclude-files-and-folders
[14:05] <bjsnider> i'd forget about the manpage altogether and just use google
[14:06] <codelurker> how do you add workspaces and change to an all horizontal workspace layout in 12.04?
[14:08] <APoulos> thanks bjsnider
[14:17] <captine> Hi all 12.04 beta users.  looking for a recommendation.  just purchased new laptop and installed 11.10.  as a newbie, should i wait for official 12.04 or just install beta?
[14:17] <codelurker> the 12.04 beta is very stable, i'd install that
[14:18] <Flywater> yes,i agree
[14:18] <BluesKaj> odd ,can't seem to find the Kmail crash bug ppl are having ...launchpad has nothing about it...I'm having the problem as well
[14:19] <captine> ok.  can i leave the upgrade overnight, or should  i be at my machine while it does it's thing/
[14:19] <captine> internet is slow, so will leave need to take time
[14:20] <codelurker> is it possible to add workspaces and change to a horizontal layout in 12.04?  driving me nuts
[14:20] <captine> pls ignore question.  am reading on askubuntu
[14:21] <Flywater> yes,it's possible,but i don't know how to do
[14:22] <codelurker> Flywater: well at least there is hope :)
[14:23] <Flywater> but it's not stable
[14:23] <Nemanja> Hi all
[14:24] <Nemanja> i have problem with External subwoofer on my asus n75sf
[14:29] <bazhang> Nemanja, hardware issue?
[14:30] <Nemanja> sorry now work ... i change on etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and add this line:
[14:30] <Nemanja> options snd-hda-intel model=asus-mode4
[14:37] <c_smith> hello
[14:39] <caravel> hi
[14:41] <Flywater> who can tell me what's the time now
[14:43] <bazhang> @time now
[14:43] <bazhang> @time UTC
[14:47] <c_smith> !time PST
[14:48] <fishcooker> hello fellas
[14:48] <c_smith> bah..... it doesn't know PST.
[14:48] <c_smith> hello
[14:48] <fishcooker> new here c_smith
[14:48] <fishcooker> :p
[14:52] <Flywater> i must go to sleep,good night
[15:04] <UnwinnableDonB> Is anyone having issues with Beta 2 and VLC freezing in Gnome Shell?
[15:05]  * spacebug- wounders what will happen after they reach the end of the alphabet when it comes to name ubuntu releases ;)
[15:05] <area51pilot> spacebug ... maybe follow the protocol of naming Hurricanes  :P
[15:09] <minimec> spacebug-: Well they restart with 'a' The letter 'h' has been used two times until now... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29#Releases
[15:11]  * Sidewinder Wonders if fishcooker is using Pidgin..
[15:12] <brendand> spacebug-, plenty of mileage in adjectives and animals
[15:12] <spacebug-> hehe
[15:13] <fishcooker> you're rite ***sidewinder
[15:13] <fishcooker> you're rite sidewinder
[15:13] <fishcooker> how did you realized it
[15:13] <fishcooker> ?
[15:15] <Sidewinder> Simple 'whois'.
[15:15] <Sidewinder> The Purple gave it away. :-)
[15:18] <fishcooker> whois sidewinder
[15:18] <fishcooker> how to?
[15:19] <Sidewinder> There's many different ways, grasshopper. :-)
[15:19] <fishcooker> !whois sidewinder
[15:20] <Sidewinder> <IP_ADDRESS> that' me. Er, I mean you.
[15:41] <sambagirl> is it possible to add options or apps to your panel like in 10.10?
[15:41] <sambagirl> can i have a choice of maybe a classic view where i have my applications placess system drop down?
[15:43] <kklimonda> sambagirl: there is gnome-session-fallback that will give you interface similar to 10.10
[15:43] <minimec> sambagirl: That should be possible, installing 'sudo apt-get install gnome' and choosing the gnome (classic) environment in lightdm.
[15:44] <sambagirl> ok thanks i am trying it as a vm to see if it is ok for my needs brb thanks
[15:45] <sambagirl> oh yes how do you get to a shell?
[15:45] <minimec> sambagirl: <ctrl>< alt>t in unity
[15:46] <sambagirl> thanks
[15:46] <sambagirl> why isnt there an icon somewhere?
[15:47] <sambagirl> it used to be in accessories
[15:47] <sambagirl> so with unity you cant add apps to the panel?
[15:47] <minimec> sambagirl: <win> key Terminal
[15:48] <sambagirl> yes but thAT JUST brings up the search field. is that supposed to be a shell environment?
[15:49] <minimec> sambagirl: Try and see. Once you opend an application, it appears in the unity-launcher. With a right click on that icon, you can make it 'permanent' in the launcher.
[15:50] <sambagirl> i see
[15:50] <sambagirl> ok but i still cannot get to a shell.
[15:50] <area51pilot> sambagirl: ctrl+alt+T
[15:51] <area51pilot> or as minimec mentioned <win> key then start typing "Terminal"
[15:52] <sambagirl> thanks
[15:53] <sambagirl> 587mb download for sudo apt-get install gnome....thank god i have fios (fiber)
[15:54] <luffha> hi all
[15:54] <sambagirl> i suppose for new people 12.04 will be fresh but for those who have been using linux for many years, it's not receptive.  maybe we can digress back to hoary version :)
[15:54] <luffha> any idea on this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10283411/php-broken-after-upgrading-to-php-5-4
[15:55] <kklimonda> sambagirl: it takes some time to get used to it, but not nearly as much as most people expect
[15:56] <kklimonda> luffha: install ppa-purge, use it to revert back to the supported version, write to the ppa maintainer that he obviously has no idea what he's doing ;)
[15:57] <luffha> ok
[15:57] <luffha> thanks
[15:57] <fishcooker> sambagirl
[15:57] <sambagirl> i have choice between gdm and lightgm i want gdm for gnome correct?
[15:57] <fishcooker> 10.04 is the best
[15:58] <fishcooker> server ever
[15:58] <fishcooker> :D
[15:58] <sambagirl> i know that is what we use 10.10 and 10.04
[15:58] <minimec> sambagirl: lightdm is default in 12.04
[15:58] <sambagirl> but support terminated for both
[15:58] <sambagirl> ok thinks minimec
[15:58] <kklimonda> sambagirl: lightdm will work just fine
[15:58] <sambagirl> well hold on waht is the difference?
[15:58] <sambagirl> i wanted to have gnome instead of unity by defaujlt
[15:58] <sambagirl> default
[15:59] <sambagirl> can i change the options later? switch between i mean?
[15:59] <kklimonda> sambagirl: DM is just a login screen - it doesn't matter which one you use to get to the GNOME desktop but gdm is not being actively maintained in Ubuntu and LightDM is
[15:59] <minimec> sambagirl: Beware! gnome (classic) and Unity don't 'love' eachother. Gnome (calssic) might break the unity compiz settings, as both use compiz as compotie manager.
[15:59] <kklimonda> yes you can
[15:59] <sambagirl> oh so the old fashioned login is gdm
[15:59] <sambagirl> lightdm is for the new look?
[15:59] <minimec> composite manager...
[16:00] <minimec> sambagirl: yes
[16:00] <sambagirl> ok
[16:00] <sambagirl> which is better?
[16:00] <kklimonda> "gdm is not being actively maintained in Ubuntu and LightDM is"
[16:00] <sambagirl> ok
[16:00] <sambagirl> lightdm it is
[16:00] <sambagirl> brb
[16:07] <set_killer> hey guys, i am just upgrading to 12.04 and i got this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.7/+bug/986374
[16:07] <set_killer> should i do sudo apt-get install -o APT::Force-LoopBreak=1 python
[16:07] <set_killer> ???
[16:10] <set_killer> anybody alive here???
[16:16] <sambagirl> ok i installed the gnome stuff. now how do you select gnome as your desktop manager?
[16:16] <Haffe> Hi, I just installed Xubuntu 12.04, and I am having some problems. 1) I have a Radeon HD7750, I have installed fglrx from jockey-gtk, yet I get an AMD unsupported hardware watermark. 2) I have an audigy 2, but I have no sound. I try to run alsamixer to unmute everything, but alsa gives me an error that mixer can't be opened.
[16:18] <sambagirl> this unity environment is extremely complicated...
[16:18] <sambagirl> how does one switch from unity to gnome? i have gnome installed now.
[16:19] <minimec> sambagirl: YOu got thar ubuntu icon above your username at the right in lightdm. Click on it and choose gnome (classic)
[16:20] <EsoRottica> Hello :)
[16:21] <set_killer> minimec: how to get over this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.7/+bug/986374
[16:21] <set_killer> just sudo apt-get install -o APT::Force-LoopBreak=1 python
[16:21] <set_killer> ???
[16:22] <minimec> set_killer: I have seen your post, but did not face your problem and don't know the answer. The command you posted seems to be a solution posted on launchpad... I would probably try that.
[16:22] <set_killer> okey, thanks
[16:23] <sambagirl> mimimec i dont see any option to switch to gnome classic
[16:23] <set_killer> anyway, is there a chance to go back to 11.10, coz now i'm on 12.04
[16:23] <bazhang> !notunity | sambagirl
[16:23] <bazhang> sambagirl, not exactly classic, but see above
[16:24] <area51pilot> sambagirl: dont like Unity?
[16:24] <minimec> you should have these options, having installed gnome now. Maybe just reboot your VM.
[16:24] <andrewaclt> Running the beta, should I be running dist-upgrade or just upgrade?
[16:24] <sambagirl> no not at all. i cant navigate in it. i installed everything after 10.10 in vm and i cant figure out how to go anywhere or do anything. this in reality reminds me of osx
[16:24] <bazhang> !final | andrewaclt
[16:25] <sambagirl> i'll just stick with 10.10 and 10.04 for the rest of the year cause i can't for the life of me figure out how to navigate in unity.
[16:25] <andrewaclt> bazhang, thanks
[16:26] <skyjumper> is alt-tab still laggy for anyone else?
[16:26] <mcdonc_> sambagirl: i managed to get a mostly-ok gnome setup under 12.04, but i cant say it was a very pleasant task
[16:26] <mcdonc_> er, gnome-panel/gnome-session i guess i should say
[16:27] <minimec> sambagirl: ou should have that ubuntu icon next to you username. After having installed gnome, you should have 5 options now, 3x gnome, 2X unity.
[16:28] <bjsnider> sambagirl, you can use gnome-shell instead
[16:30] <mcdonc_> personally i'd wait for a while.. there are still some little niggles that will likely get worked out in a few months
[16:33] <sambagirl> minimec i dont have that. i ran the command listed earlier and it downloaded a bunch of stuff around 587mb of stuff and i restarted and stuff and the only prompt i had was regarding the lightdm and the gnm thing
[16:33] <sambagirl> i dont see anything else.
[16:34] <mfilipe_> is there a contacts sync for Ubuntu One in 12.04?
[16:34] <sambagirl> let me reboot it again...
[16:35] <minimec> sambagirl: when the lightdm-greeter (login-greeter) is shown, you have an icon next to username. After a normal ubuntu install you have unity/unity2d as option. Now you should have 5 options. That's all i can say.
[16:36] <minimec> sambagirl: If you have autologin activated, you have to logout first ;)
[16:48] <sambagirl> well i gave up and i will delete the vm. thanks for all your help! chao!
[16:50] <scar3crow> does the dvd contain both the i386 and x64 versions?
[17:18] <erase_> Hi, I'm having some trouble installing Rails 3.X on Ubuntu 12.04. Is there a sources.list line, or something like that since it only install 2.3?
[17:27] <trism> erase_: you should probably use the gem if you want the latest rails, sudo apt-get install ruby1.9.3; gem install rails; (or something similar)
[17:29] <erase_> trism, already tried that, didn't work. thx anyway. i'm going for 2.3. it's for learning... thx.
[17:30] <trism> erase_: one second, I am building a container to test, I'll let you know
[17:31] <trism> erase_: the issue may be that you already have rubygems installed, so the default gem link is to the one from ruby1.8 (rails 3.2 recommends 1.9.3)
[17:33] <erase_> trism, going to try that, thx.
[17:37] <set_killer> hey guys, i tryed to upgrade to 12.04 but it failed
[17:37] <set_killer> and now i cannot run update-manager - d
[17:38] <erase_> trism, i just installed ruby1.9.3 but ruby -v gives me ruby 1.8.7
[17:38] <set_killer> it gives me erro reporting window
[17:38] <set_killer> also i cannot manage the source.list file trough sinaptyc
[17:38] <erase_> set_killer, "update-manager -d" <- one space
[17:39] <erase_> :P
[17:39] <set_killer> yes, i write it with 1 space
[17:39] <erase_> ok.
[17:39] <BluesKaj> set_killer, run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:40] <set_killer> no output
[17:40] <set_killer> the output of update-manager is... Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[17:40] <trism> erase_: try running ruby1.9.1
[17:40] <set_killer> and a lot of warnings about GTK interface
[17:41] <BluesKaj> set_killer, close update manager , then sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[17:41] <trism> erase_: and gem1.9.1 will force that version, sudo gem1.9.1 install rails; will install rails to /var/lib/gems/, although it failed for me because I hadn't installed build-essential yet
[17:41] <set_killer> No new release found
[17:42] <set_killer> BluesKaj: but uname -a gives kernel 3.0.0
[17:42] <set_killer> and no other options in grub
[17:42] <BluesKaj> set_killer, what does lsb_release -a , give ?
[17:43] <set_killer> wtf, its 12.04
[17:43] <set_killer> the kernel did not upgraded?
[17:44] <BluesKaj> set_killer, ok , you held dependencies or packages , run  sudo dpkg --clear-avail
[17:44] <set_killer> no output
[17:44] <trism> erase_: yep that did it, make sure you install build-essential first, then it will install the rails links to /usr/local/bin/
[17:44] <BluesKaj> good , no errors
[17:45] <BluesKaj> run , sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade , set_killer
[17:49] <set_killer> BluesKaj: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 560 not upgraded.
[17:49] <set_killer> finaly done
[17:51] <BluesKaj> set_killer, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:51] <erase_> trism: after installing i ran the test rails new test
[17:51] <erase_>          run  bundle install
[17:51] <erase_> Fetching gem metadata from https://rubygems.org/.........
[17:51] <erase_> OpenSSL::SSL::SSLError: SSL_connect returned=1 errno=0 state=unknown state: sslv3 alert handshake failure
[17:51] <erase_> An error occured while installing rake (<IP_ADDRESS>), and Bundler cannot continue.
[17:51] <erase_> Make sure that `gem install rake -v '<IP_ADDRESS>'` succeeds before bundling.
[17:52] <erase_> :(
[17:52] <justdave> is there a way to remove grub from a partition?
[17:52] <set_killer> BluesKaj:  559 upgraded, 415 newly installed, 22 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[17:52] <set_killer> thanks :]
[17:52] <justdave> I've apparently got grub installed on two different partitions, and both of them are showing up in my EFI boot menu
[17:52] <justdave> only want one of them :)
[17:52] <BluesKaj> ok, looks like you have it set_killer
[17:53] <minimec> justdave: How would that look like? so you have two seperate grub menu to choos from?
[17:53] <trism> erase_: yes I got the same, I am still looking into it, although you can succeed with: rails new projectname --skip-bundle; I haven't used rails in a while so I don't know if it will be an issue later
[17:53] <BluesKaj> justdave, 2 differnt Linux OSs ?
[17:53] <erase_> trism, ok. thanks!
[17:54] <UnwinnableDonB> Since upgrading to Beta 2, Totem loads every flash embed in Google Chrome rather than Adobe Flash. Any thoughts?
[17:54] <justdave> minimec: I have two entries that say "Boot Linux from HD" with a penguin icon
[17:54] <set_killer_> BluesKaj: thank you this must fix the problem :]
[17:54] <justdave> either one acts exactly the same
[17:54] <justdave> same menu, same Linux kernels listed on it
[17:54] <justdave> bootinfo tells me one is on the MBR and the other is on sda3
[17:54] <BluesKaj> set_killer_, ok you're welcome
[17:54] <set_killer_> BluesKaj: have a good day/night, thank you again
[17:56] <minimec> justdave: Never seen that... I do have a system with multiple drives on it that have grub in master boot...
[17:58] <roothorick> Argh! I need to report a hang/freeze bug with nvidia-drivers but the bug wouldn't be valid because I'm using a previous version, but the reason I'm using a previous version is because the current driver is completely useless to me due to a more serious bug...!
[18:03] <Artemis3> tried an even older version?
[18:07] <luna> hello everybody. I have installed ubuntu 12.04. I cannot find hibertane button. Can anyone help me, please?
[18:08] <arune> luna: hibernate is not supported anymore
[18:08] <arune> luna: http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/04/hibernation-disabled-by-default-in.html
[18:08] <roothorick> oh great... I'm getting logspam in Xorg.log, thre errors looped over and over and over.... second error has exactly TWO hits on google
[18:08] <EsoRottica> Hello, I'm having an issue preventing me from logging in to my user profile. Yesterday, while changing my display settings from the display manager, I managed to get all the screens off. The system did not revert the changes after 30 seconds so I powered the machine off. I can no longer log into that profile. Once I supply my password, the screens blank and I am sent back to the login manager. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for your
[18:09] <luna> arune: tk u
[18:09] <roothorick> I might be looking at hardware trouble :(
[18:16] <roothorick> am I the only one getting goofy redraw issues in Firefox?
[18:18] <ghabit> Hello. How I can update to ubuntu 12.04?
[18:18] <ghabit> ah, I see.
[18:18] <ghabit> ^)
[18:19] <ghabit> found it
[18:26] <FernandoMiguel> olá
[18:27] <justdave> ok, got rid of my extra grub...
[18:27] <justdave> it was my /boot partition that had it...  which was small...
[18:27] <justdave> so I tarballed the contents of it, then ran gparted, deleted the partition and recreated it, then unpacked the tarball back into it
[18:29] <Fyodorovna> justdave, you using a bot partition due to partitioning type?
[18:29] <Fyodorovna> boot*
[18:29] <Fyodorovna> aka gpt lvm...etc
[18:30] <justdave> this machine was originally installed as Edgy Eft and has been upgraded since then
[18:30] <justdave> I think having /boot separate was default back then
[18:31] <Fyodorovna> justdave, if it is a standard mbr setup you don't ned a boot partition but just the right files in the right place including the mbr.
[18:32] <justdave> Fyodorovna: yup, I know. :)
[18:32] <Fyodorovna> cool
[18:32] <justdave> just never got around to repartitioning it after they decided that wasn't best practice anymore
[18:32] <justdave> and all the upgrades left it alone
[18:34] <Fyodorovna> justdave, never had to use one myself luckily. Even with my W7 install which is never use I pre-formatted the NTFS to avoid the MS boot partition.
[18:39]  * justdave curses uuid-based fstab entries
[18:39] <justdave> of course the uuid changes if you delete and recreate a partition :|
[18:40] <justdave> uuid of every partition on the drive changed, apparently
[18:40] <justdave> not just the one I deleted/readded
[18:41] <justdave> I updated that one in fstab, but not the one for swap
[18:43] <Fyodorovna> justdave, you can in fstab change the UUID to /dev/sdaX   X is the partition # and get boot.
[18:43] <justdave> oh, kernel command line in grub had it.  doh
[18:43] <justdave> how do I make grub regenerate it's config?
[18:43] <justdave> it's the generated one that has it
[18:43] <justdave> grub-mkconfig seems to work, but sends it to stdout, I assume I have to write that somewhere
[18:44] <albert23> justdave: update-grub
[18:44] <Fyodorovna> !grub
[18:46] <Fyodorovna> here is another detailed grub link. http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[18:48] <justdave> it annoys me how if you tell 12.04 to restart from the gui and someone's logged in on the command line it just goes back to the lightdm login screen instead of prompting you to kick people off or something
[18:49] <justdave> have to open a terminal and sudo shutdown -r now to get it to actually reboot
[18:49] <bjsnider> Fyodorovna, just send him links to all of the material that has ever been written on grub2, including all ml messages, so he becomes the world's foremost grub2 expert
[18:50] <Fyodorovna> bjsnider, lol
[18:51] <justdave> ok, works now.  thanks :)
[18:52] <EsoRottica> Hello, I'm struggling with a bug where I cannot log into a profile and it looks similar to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/951404. The problem occoured when I misconfigured monitors in Display manager, and reboot the computer. Other users seem to work as well as the guest profile. Anyone think they could help me out please?
[18:52] <peeps> while trying to install 12.04got message "video mode not supported" any ideas on how to get past this hrdle?
[18:54] <trism> EsoRottica: it would be interesting to see the output for the information requested by seb128 in the last comment on that bug (specifically the rm ~/.xsession-errors then log in and then attach ~/.xsession-errors to a comment in that bug report)
[18:55] <EsoRottica> fantastic, thanks for reading through, upon logging in once again, xsession errors did not regenerate
[18:55] <EsoRottica> doh
[18:55] <EsoRottica> however, in syslog i see the following >< https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/951404
[18:55] <EsoRottica> Apr 23 11:27:23 Piirat lightdm: pam_ecryptfs: pam_sm_authenticate: /home/blackbeard is already mounted
[18:56] <trism> EsoRottica: ah so maybe this is an encrypted home folder issue
[18:56] <EsoRottica> I am able to get into the files? Ive dropped to ctrl + alt + f1 and logged in. files appear working and accessable
[18:57] <mcdonc_> EsoRottica: one heavy hammer way around this would be to move ~/.config to ~/.config_aside and restart X
[18:57] <trism> EsoRottica: in that case, probably not related then
[18:58] <EsoRottica> to verify.....    drop to shell, login as blackbeard, mv ~/.config ~/.config.bak  | restartx
[18:58] <Kiryx> sry, i'm having issues with connection
[18:58] <mcdonc_> yeah cant hurt, you can always move .config back
[18:58] <EsoRottica> trism, I will take a look at GuyR's syslog to verify
[18:59] <Kiryx> did anyone had some idea about the pidgin issue ?
[18:59] <fishcooker> what kind of issure
[18:59] <Kiryx> oh
[18:59] <fishcooker> good one or..
[18:59] <EsoRottica> also important to note, KDE does not work on this user ither.
[18:59] <fishcooker> not good one
[18:59] <fishcooker> :D
[18:59] <fishcooker> kiryx
[18:59] <Kiryx> i wrote a block of text
[19:00] <justdave> ok, maybe it's not all working yet...  how do I make it not show the grub menu unless you hit a key?  GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is what it says in the docs, but it doesn't seem to be honoring that.
[19:01] <Kiryx> but i guess it didn't get through
[19:01] <Kiryx> ok, so I'm having issues with gaining focus in pidgin
[19:01] <alice_> this is just cruel
[19:01] <alice_> ok, so here it is
[19:02] <alice_> I am having issues with piding how appearing after I run it/alt-tab it/ click it from any bar/panel
[19:02] <alice_> s/how/not
[19:02] <trism> justdave: if you have multiple os installed, that option is ignored in the confs in /etc/grub.d/
[19:02] <alice_> it starts, and i get info from tray about people getting online etc.
[19:03] <alice_> i just can't bring the window to the front
[19:06] <trism> alice_: yes, pidgin seems buggy with unity, as a workaround Tools/Preferences Show System Tray Icon - Always, seems to work
[19:06] <trism> alice_: you may need to add Pidgin to the systray-whitelist for that to help though
[19:07] <EsoRottica> trism, no such luck
[19:08] <trism> alice_: install dconf-tools then dconf-editor desktop/unity/panel and add 'Pidgin' to the list in systray-whitelist
[19:09] <trism> EsoRottica: so none of the sessions will load at all?
[19:12] <EsoRottica> trism, incorrect, I have a single use who wont load. Guest works fine. my admin backup works fine
[19:12] <mcdonc_> moving .config didnt help?
[19:12] <EsoRottica> mcdonc_: negative
[19:12] <trism> EsoRottica: I mean any of the sessions for the user that isn't working
[19:13] <EsoRottica> trism: correct, both gnome and KDE fail
[19:13] <mcdonc_> bummer.. that worked for me when i painted myself into a corner
[19:13] <mcdonc_> but i went to ctrl-alt-f1, logged in as root, killed lightdm, su'ed to my nonroot user and moved it, then restarted lightdm
[19:14] <EsoRottica> to verify, I couldnty restrtx using "restartx"
[19:14] <EsoRottica> lightdm does the pass off correctly.
[19:14] <EsoRottica> I will post my x-0 next :)
[19:15] <justdave> hmmm... the only other OS is OS X....
[19:15] <justdave> can I tell it to ignore OS X?  I can get to that from the EFI bootloader, don't need to wait for grub for that :)
[19:16] <EsoRottica> :q
[19:16] <justdave> this is a set-top box anyway, only need OS X for the ocassional firmware update
[19:17] <justdave> needs to boot directly into linux with as little interference as possible in general usage
[19:17] <EsoRottica> trism: mcdonc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/943008/
[19:18] <justdave> disable os prober, there we go
[19:19] <trism> justdave: also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1287602 (see hiding the menu on multi-os systems)
[19:20] <EsoRottica> trism: also, here is the xsession-errors, would you like .old as well?
[19:20] <EsoRottica> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/943020/
[19:20] <trism> EsoRottica: sure
[19:21] <EsoRottica> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/943025/
[19:22] <Steevca> I can't get network connection to work in ubuntu 12.04,i burned live cd to flash drive,but it's working with 11.10.I have noticed on the forums that there is a wicd,how do i install it without the network connection?
[19:22] <Steevca> I have dual boot with windows xp,can i somehow download it to win. and then switch to ubuntu and run the installation?
[19:23] <Steevca> Anyone?
[19:23] <Fyodorovna> Steevca, did you install a driver to get the 11.10 to work? is this wifi?
[19:24] <Steevca> Fyodorovna: I don't know how to install it.And it's a wired connection with ethernet cable.
[19:24] <Fyodorovna> Steevca, so the wired does not run in precise?
[19:25] <Steevca> Nope,but it's workin just fine in 11.10.
[19:25] <Steevca> When i click the network manager icon there are no connections,but when i open the settings window i have wired 1 and wired 2
[19:26] <Fyodorovna> Steevca, no sure myself but if you run lspci in the terminal you can identify the card and use this in your help seeking.
[19:26] <Steevca> And in the /etc/netwrok/interfaces there is only something like lo loop, and one more thing.
[19:27] <Steevca> Fyodorovna: This is the lspci output http://pastebin.com/J5yWdWHZ
[19:28] <Steevca> I also have a via rhine network adapter in my pc,but it's not working.
[19:28] <Steevca> And tp-link tf-3200 that is working and it's the one that i am using.
[19:30] <trism> EsoRottica: unfortunately I don't immediately see anything there, can you pastebin: ls -la ~; maybe we'll see some hidden file there causing issues, otherwise I'm not sure, and it could be difficult to track down the problem
[19:31] <EsoRottica> trism: excellent, i already have that up :)
[19:31] <EsoRottica> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/943043/
[19:32] <Steevca> Looks like there are no options for me but to use xp. :(
[19:33] <mcdonc_> i know gnome 3 is meant to have a screen recorder built into it.. it doesnt appear that it works under gnome session in 12.04 though, is there any trick to enable it?
[19:34] <EsoRottica> mcdoc_: it is called orca
[19:34] <trism> EsoRottica: I notice .Xauthority was only updated yesterday, try moving all three of them out of that directory and then logging in
[19:34] <trism> EsoRottica: through lightdm that is
[19:35] <EsoRottica> trism: I had a feeling this was the case, when attempting to startx from shell, I got Xauthority lock stopping the login.
[19:35] <EsoRottica> trism: When you say through lightdm, what exactly do you mean?
[19:36] <mcdonc_> EsoRottica: that's a screen reader, i meant: http://www.ubuntubuzz.com/2011/11/ubuntu-desktop-screen-recording-tool.html
[19:36] <trism> EsoRottica: I mean instead of startx, login on the lightdm login screen
[19:36] <EsoRottica> IE: logout, login :) ?
[19:36] <nik90> hey guys, what happened to the sound theme for precise?
[19:37] <trism> EsoRottica: are you already logged into a session?
[19:37] <EsoRottica> trism: not with that user
[19:38] <trism> EsoRottica: ahh alright, yes log out then log in with the other user after moving the .Xauthority files out of the way
[19:38] <EsoRottica> Trsim: back shortly, thanks!
[19:39] <trism> nik90: there was a contest to select a new one if that is what you mean: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/new-ubuntu-sound-theme-winner-chosen/
[19:40] <EsoRottica> fantasic
[19:40] <nik90> trism, yes, but I thought they chose the finalist, and should land in 12.04
[19:40] <nik90> atleast the preliminary work, right?
[19:40] <trism> nik90: true, I am not sure, I always disable the sound theme, hmm
[19:40] <EsoRottica> trism: thank you sir, you are a gentleman and a scholar. are you able to explain what was happening?
[19:43] <EsoRottica> trism: nevermid, I looked it up. Thanks again.
[19:44] <trism> EsoRottica: you're welcome, glad it is working
[19:45] <EsoRottica> trism: I'm sure it would be pretty hard to repeat whatever happened. I just wish I could make it repeatable to learn what I did wrong. I've still got a mountain of Xorg conf learning to do I think
[19:48] <Gremlyn> hi all, odd thing under Unity 2D: I have systray set (under dconf-editor) to allow skype and pidgin to show up, it works fine under Unity 3D, but under Unity 2D the Pidgin icon is invisible
[19:48] <Gremlyn> it is physically there, as I can click where it should be and access it, and Skype shows up fine on both 2D and 3D
[19:49] <Gremlyn> just the Pidgin icon seems to be missing/not loading :|
[19:49] <Gremlyn> ideas on what to check?
[20:02] <trism> Gremlyn: that is weird, if I select ubuntu-mono-dark as the icon theme, it will not show up (but as you say, you can click where it should be and it works)
[20:02] <trism> Gremlyn: but I use Faenza-Ambiance, and with that theme, it works fine
[20:03] <trism> Gremlyn: my guess would be ubuntu-mono-dark and the themes it depends on are missing an icon
[20:05] <trism> Gremlyn: wait that doesn't make any sense, then why would it work in unity-3d? hmm
[20:10] <jtaylor> where are the official release iso checksums? (not the daily builds)
[20:11] <krababbel> How should I define DNS servers without using network manager, which I removed?
[20:11] <jtaylor> found them  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes#A10.04_LTS
[20:11] <bekks> jtaylor: 12.04 isnt released yet.
[20:12] <jtaylor> needed older ones
[20:12] <guntbert> !hashes | jtaylor
[20:12] <krababbel> Is removing network manager supported?
[20:13] <FernandoMiguel> jtaylor: usually same URL but at MD5SUM
[20:13] <htorque> guntbert: that's not secure, though (http vs. https). :p
[20:14] <FernandoMiguel> krababbel: not really. but why would you do that?
[20:14] <jtaylor> just got biten by bug 645818 :(
[20:14] <guntbert> htorque: well, we are talking about corrupted downloads from the original site - aren't we?
[20:14] <trism> jtaylor: odd, I thought I saw a changelog entry that it was fixed recently (I still use unetbootin)
[20:15] <krababbel> FernandoMiguel: It seems it doesn't support vlans. I saw a release note about it getting support soon, but I need it now.
[20:15] <jtaylor> trism: yes it was supposed to be fixed, but apparently not
[20:16] <FernandoMiguel> krababbel: had no idea :(
[20:16] <htorque> guntbert: heh, i was kidding (more or less). i just remembered this question at ask ubuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/45708/where-can-i-find-the-sha256-hashes-of-ubuntu-images
[20:16] <|Anthony|> compiz seems to use an unnecessary amount of cpu
[20:16] <krababbel> FernandoMiguel: thanks
[20:16] <|Anthony|> any confirmations on that?
[20:17] <htorque> |Anthony|: nope, sorry. using minimal cpu here.
[20:17] <guntbert> htorque: :)   thats what I was thinking about - but I missed the  :p
[20:17] <|Anthony|> at ~10% on an E6550
[20:17] <metalfan_> hi
[20:17] <krababbel> |Anthony|: I had stuttering in games with unity3d, 2d is fine.
[20:17] <|Anthony|> currently kids are playing games on pbskids.org
[20:18] <|Anthony|> plugin-container is @ 50%
[20:18] <|Anthony|> zorg @18%
[20:18] <krababbel> opengl I meant
[20:18] <|Anthony|> i know
[20:18] <krababbel> like neverball
[20:18] <|Anthony|> right
[20:19] <|Anthony|> that shouldn't have anything to do with compiz though
[20:19] <|Anthony|> unless the window is rendered transparent
[20:19] <krababbel> I tried fullscreen too, 2d login is fine and normal.
[20:22] <|Anthony|> idk... this machine is 10.04 and i have screenlets, conky, and xwinwrap screensaver in background... all in transparent layers and compiz doesn't go that high
[20:22] <|Anthony|> just seems odd that simply sitting there at the desktop on 12.04 compiz would use so much
[20:24] <|Anthony|> hell, the other machine actually has a better gpu in it
[20:24] <EsoRottica> trism: I just wanted to come thank you again :) I've finally gotten my 3 monitors up and running, with HDMI passthrough off to the TV :)
[20:24] <trism> EsoRottica: excellent, glad to hear it
[20:25] <EsoRottica> as for OpenCL..... That is a project for another day.
[20:26] <justdave> how do I get the dock/menu bar to stay out of the way when an app has full-screen?
[20:26] <justdave> I have legacy fullscreen support enabled already in the compiz settings
[20:26] <justdave> and that works fine until I turn the TV off
[20:27] <justdave> when I turn it back on, the dock and menu bar are visible again
[20:27] <BluesKaj> krababbel, /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf is now the default dynamic conf file , it writes the /etc/resolv.conf file , place your dns nameservers in the /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf/head textfile
[20:30] <krababbel> BluesKaj: thanks a lot!
[20:31] <krababbel> BluesKaj: Should I create the directory? It isn't there on my system.
[20:33] <BluesKaj> krababbel, sorry , I gave you the wrong file path , it's this ,  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/ , then in the "head" set your nameservers
[20:34] <krababbel> It says there too, I should not edit it, but I'll try. Thanks!
[20:36] <yooozy> hi
[20:37] <yooozy> did anyone tried kernel 3.3.x?
[20:37] <bekks> I am on 3.4.0-rc3 already ;)
[20:38] <yooozy> wow!
[20:38] <yooozy> any bugs?
[20:38] <bekks> None I ran into.
[20:38] <yooozy> how about performance
[20:39] <yooozy> bekks, how about performance?
[20:40] <bekks> yooozy: Not worse than before :)
[20:42] <yooozy> bekks,y don't they just upgrade to 3.3 since it's stable
[20:42] <bekks> Who?
[20:43] <bekks> I dont care about ubuntu kernels, I am building them on my own, using the options I want, ommitting all the stuff I dont need :)
[20:43] <yooozy> bekks, ubuntu developers LOL
[21:00] <Logan_> Ooh, Quantal Quetzal. I like it.
[21:03] <Gremlyn> trism, I found a bug report, looks like this has been going on for a while: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-2d/+bug/703389
[21:21] <carpediembaby> hey, experiencing problem with flashplugin.. i get Failure to download extra data filesName-ar .. and many more similar to this when trying to install flashplugin.. i already had it installed but its not working anymore .. tried installing/uninstalling
[21:36] <gnu-dio> is there some tool for 12.04 that I can't find for more precise control of system theme type settings? I got myunity installed and after trying many themes, got one that has only one issue. I would like to fix it, but I have no idea where to start. inactive windows lose their titlebars. see the pidgin buddy list for what I mean...http://imagebin.org/209409
[21:37] <jbicha> gnu-dio: you should probably talk to the theme developer, that theme may not be compatible with GTK 3.4
[21:39] <gnu-dio> Well, I'm tired of hunting themes that all fail in some way. I've wasted several hours now installing themes that should be gtk3 (not sure about the 3.4 part wasn't watching that)
[21:40] <gnu-dio> and all have some issues that either they are light themes, or something doesn't work right (for the dark ones)
[21:41] <gnu-dio> so, what about some gtk+ settings tool? I've googled all over and failed to turn up what to do... :(
[21:42] <gnu-dio> Or a line on a reasonably good looking dark theme that actually works?
[21:43] <gnu-dio> I'm not picky except for the "dark" or "inverse" etc. part
[21:44] <gnu-dio> well, too picky for the included "high contrast-inverse"
[21:44] <NurseDad> is ubuntu-tweak something that should be installed?
[21:50] <dcampoy> Hi. I just update my ubuntu to 12.04 and now I'm unable to make it boot again so I'm here to find a workaround
[21:50] <dcampoy> At first time I get: "Failed to create PTY"-error that is already reported and has as workaround add --no-log as kernel parameter
[21:51] <dcampoy> but now keeps failing but without any error. Any clue?
[21:54] <NurseDad> no opinions about ubuntu-tweak?
[21:58] <gnu-dio> I have it installed.
[21:58] <gnu-dio> Didn't do what I installed it for, but seems to work ok to me. Lots of settings to play with.
[21:59] <NurseDad> ok tks
[22:03] <ozzy_> so does 12.04 final comig with optional gnome shell?
[22:04] <trism> ozzy_: optional in the sense that: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell; adds it
[22:12] <NurseDad> after adding the ubuntu tweak PPA how do I install the software?
[22:17] <ScottyK> greetings! I've got 12.04 on a test machine with a Nvidia 6200 video card. the monitor is an Hannspree LCD (21 inch). The only resolutions available are 1024x768 and 800x600. Suggestions? Running the nivida drivers (current)
[22:30] <v1Ns> hi,  how do i add a   msn-live account in empathy?  12.04
[22:30] <v1Ns> i dont get it
[22:31] <v1Ns> oh sorry   i got it
[22:31] <pangolin> I am not 100% sure but I don't think you can
[22:31] <v1Ns> but its not really clear  how to add it
[22:32] <v1Ns> yeah i found it     have to clikck  on the  ''+''
[22:32] <v1Ns> in messaging and VOIP accounts
[22:33] <pangolin> glad you figured it out
[22:36] <natman_> I have tried out ubuntu 12.04 live from usb stick on laptop, works very nice and speedy - when i go to HDD install will it be slower or same or faster?
[22:38] <HelenB> pangolin, Better?
[22:38] <TheSimkin> natman_: faster
[22:38] <pangolin> not really, you have been told before not to seek support in #ubuntu if you are running beta
[22:38] <TheSimkin> usb stick is slower than hard disk
[22:38] <HelenB> Right first of all
[22:39]  * quetzal waves to pangolin
[22:39] <quetzal> I superseded you!
[22:39] <pangolin> I see you logan :P
[22:39] <natman_> TheSimkin: Serious?? its running faster than 11.10 Xubuntu currently
[22:40] <TheSimkin> i wouldn't lie to you
[22:40] <HelenB> Kubuntu works fine CPU is running stable at 10%. I can load many programs up and the cpu would only go up atleast 5% depending on the program. But lets say i load up a media file or I browse the web. Anything graphic basicly just makes my CPU shoot upto 100%.
[22:40] <HelenB> and it's very very annoying.
[22:40] <HelenB> It's as if Kubuntu is relying on the CPU for graphics instead of the GPU.
[22:40] <pangolin> HelenB: do you have the proper drivers installed for your graphics card?
[22:41] <HelenB> pangolin, As far as I know yes.
[22:41] <pangolin> run kdesudo jockey-kde
[22:41] <pangolin> and see what it offers
[22:41] <pangolin> and also see if they are in use
[22:42] <pangolin> jockey GUI should start up and tell you what is what
[22:42] <HelenB> Why not just sudo?
[22:42] <pangolin> when running graphical root it is recommended to use kdesudo for KDE and gksudo for gnome
[22:43] <pangolin> least in ubuntu it is
[22:43] <pangolin> something about it sets up the perms right and doesn't mess with stuff.
[22:44] <HelenB> :o
[22:44] <HelenB> pangolin, Wait...
[22:44] <HelenB> I checked additional drivers when I installed Kubuntu.
[22:44] <HelenB> the only thing available was wifi drivers. lol
[22:45] <pangolin> ok, check again to make sure :)
[22:46] <HelenB> pangolin, Still the only thing available are the wifi drivers. lol
[22:47] <bkc_> HelenB: what gfx-card do you have?
[22:47] <pangolin> hmm, what card do you have?
[22:47] <bkc_> I'm guessing it's an optimus-based >:-)
[22:48] <HelenB> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[22:48] <HelenB> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[22:48] <HelenB> oh i'm not using the top one. lol
[22:49] <TheSimkin> the intel video drive is gpl
[22:49] <TheSimkin> it should be installed automagically
[22:49] <HelenB> TheSimkin, That's what I thought. lol
[22:50] <TheSimkin> HelenB: maybe try disabling desktop effects and play a video again
[22:50] <HelenB> hmm good thinking! :D
[22:50] <auvajs> hi I wanna install ubuntu on a copletely new laptop with just FreeDos preinstalled. but the live cd doesn
[22:50] <bkc_> HelenB: the intel gma945 works wonders for me, I'm not having any of the problems your describing :/
[22:51] <auvajs> hi I wanna install ubuntu on a copletely new laptop with just FreeDos preinstalled. but the live cd doesn't even boot.. watch this (low quality) video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdGzDDrDU7s&feature=youtu.be
[22:51] <HelenB> bkc_, And that means?
[22:51] <HelenB> It's been like this through 3 fresh installs of Kubuntu and ubuntu.
[22:51] <HelenB> lol
[22:52] <bkc_> HelenB: all 12.04? or have you tried 11.10?
[22:52] <HelenB> 10, 11 and 12 all have the same effect on the graphics.
[22:53] <bkc_> 2sec,
[22:53] <TheSimkin> auvajs: can't look at video, but have you tried  a usb stick?
[22:53] <bkc_> HelenB: try "lsmod | grep i915" :)
[22:54] <bkc_> TheSimkin: the gfx-card can't handle the default gfx-mode :/
[22:54] <auvajs> TheSimkin: not yet I don't hjave one at handy
[22:55] <HelenB> bkc_, I'm going to PM you the output.
[22:55] <HelenB> Too slow for pastebin
[22:56] <HelenB> If anyone else would like to see the output then please just tell me. :3
[22:56] <TheSimkin> bkc_: lol
[22:58] <EvilResistance> !pastebinit | HelenB
[22:59] <EvilResistance> HelenB:  you could have just tried `lsmod | grep i915 | pastebinit` ;P
[22:59] <EvilResistance> (most people don't remember pastebinit exists :P)
[22:59] <bkc_> EvilResistance: didn't know that, but *thank you!!!!!*
[22:59] <HelenB> EvilResistance, I'm not putting any software on my system.
[22:59] <EvilResistance> your loss
[23:00] <EvilResistance> you already put software on your system by installing ubuntu xD
[23:00]  * EvilResistance laughs evilly as he returns to his coding
[23:00] <TheSimkin> HelenB: installing from repositories is safe.
[23:00] <HelenB> I know
[23:00] <TheSimkin> HelenB: so why don't you want to install software
[23:00] <EvilResistance> good question
[23:00] <HelenB> Because I want to get this problem fixed first.
[23:01] <EvilResistance> if you dont install software you cant keep your system up to date
[23:01] <HelenB> obviously
[23:01] <TheSimkin> HelenB: part of fixing the problem involves installing software.
[23:01] <EvilResistance> well your system sucks then, because using pastebinit would make your output able to be viewed publicly easily
[23:01]  * EvilResistance agrees with TheSimkin
[23:01] <HelenB> thanks for stating the obvious Mr Obvious
[23:01] <EvilResistance> !attitude | HelenB
[23:01] <TheSimkin> you're a little hostile for someone seeking help.
[23:02]  * EvilResistance does not tolerate hostility pointed against him
[23:02] <EvilResistance> a(much)
[23:02] <EvilResistance> s/a//
[23:02] <HelenB> sorry I'm a bitch
[23:02] <TheSimkin> now you're a bitch without help
[23:02] <TheSimkin> yay you.
[23:03] <HelenB> oh damn
[23:03] <HelenB> woops
[23:04] <Annie> I need some help: Cannot login after installing the 12.04 beta, unity is not installed and whatever wm i try to use from the logonscreen it just flashes some text and send me back to the logon screen..
[23:07] <pepee> I have some problems with my touchpad. can some help me to debug it?
[23:09] <EvilResistance> !details | pepee
[23:10] <pepee> sorry. this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/962704
[23:10] <pepee> and lots of error(?) messages in syslog
[23:14] <pepee> oh well, 2 bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/366261
[23:16] <pepee> but is the first one that I want to check if I can fix
[23:19] <pepee> xinput: http://paste.ubuntu.com/943313/            xev: http://paste.ubuntu.com/943315/ (mouse pointer jump is logged in the end of this)
[23:20] <natman> i am using live ubuntu 12.04, i know my laptop needs prop. drivers for gfx card, but none show in list
[23:21] <dustinspringman> natman: what type of card?
[23:22] <natman> mmm some old nvidia one
[23:22] <natman> mmm some old nvidia one dustinspringman
[23:22] <dustinspringman> natman: do you have glxgears yet so you can test FPS of your 3d?
[23:23] <natman> dustinspringman: I am running it live from usb stick, how do i test that
[23:23] <bkc_> natman: ignore statement above, use "glxinfo | grep -i direct"
[23:24] <dustinspringman> natman: is your storage persistant?
[23:24] <bkc_> if the program isn't installed, install it with "sudo apt-get install mesa-utils"
[23:25] <natman> bkc_: dustinspringman program is not installed and usb is no persistent
[23:25] <bkc_> doesn't matter,
[23:25] <bkc_> sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[23:26] <bkc_> (glxinfo and glxgears comes with mesa-utils)
[23:26] <bkc_> then: glxinfo | grep -i direct
[23:26] <natman> mesa has no installation candidate
[23:27] <bkc_> mesa-utils :/
[23:27] <dustinspringman> natman: I was wondering because you are about to do a lot of work to get better graphics support, and when the machine is rebooted it will all be gone.. figured I'd ask before you spend a lot of time on it..
[23:28] <natman> dustinspringman: bkc_ okay guys, all i want to know is this, when i eventually doa  full install, will i be able to get my nvidia card support working, i am worried since noting is showing the prop. hardware drivers box on live
[23:29] <bkc_> natman: lsmod | grep nv
[23:29] <bkc_> look for nvidia
[23:29] <dustinspringman> natman: that's a great question. Getting the mesa-utils will answer a lot of that.. you may be fine with the default drivers with a few tweaks, or you might have to do some nvidia-settings install/xorg.conf editing..
[23:29] <bkc_> if AMD-card, | grep fglrx
[23:29] <bkc_> ooh, nvidia...
[23:30] <natman> bkc_:  gives no output
[23:30] <bkc_> natman: lsmod | grep nouv
[23:31] <natman> bkc_:  ok few lines of output
[23:31] <bkc_> look for nouvoue or something like that :)
[23:32] <natman> bkc_: each one says "nouveau"
[23:32] <bkc_> okey, so it's using the OSS-driver, now do this
[23:32] <bkc_> sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[23:32] <bkc_> glxinfo | grep -i string
[23:33] <bkc_> and then glxinfo | grep -i direct
[23:33] <natman> bkc_:  "has no installation canddtate"
[23:33] <bkc_> what?? :/
[23:33] <wylde> !info mesa-utils
[23:34] <natman> look guys, its not working
[23:34] <bkc_> natman: you need to enable the universe-repo...
[23:34] <bkc_> 2 sec
[23:35] <natman> When i used 11.10, and pulled up "additional drivers" i was always told about my nvidia card - that was fine, no on my LIVE 12.04 when i pull up "additional drivers" it has nothiing - im just worried about when i go to do a full install
[23:36] <natman> Perhaps nvidia drives come bundled in the LIVE version?
[23:37] <bkc_> natman: no, your using the open-source version nouvoue... the nvidia-provided proprietary driver isn't in the live-version... that one you have to install afterwards :)
[23:37] <bkc_> do this "lspci | grep -i vga"
[23:38] <natman> bkc_:  VGA compatabile controller : Nvidia Cor......
[23:38] <bkc_> the whole line please :)
[23:39] <natman> bkc_: ( diff pc cant copy and paste ) VGA compatible controler : Nvidia corp. G72M [ GeFroce Go 7200] (rev a1)
[23:40] <bkc_> that one is compatable with at least the 195-legacy blob :)
[23:41] <bkc_> natman: and the latest 295.40 to as far as I can see :)
[23:41] <bkc_> shouldn't be a problem :)
[23:41] <natman> bkc_:??? dont get you, btw i had to boot with NOMODESET
[23:41] <bkc_> natman: the nomodeset is pretty much standard for nvidia-cards...
[23:42] <natman> bkc_:  okay i have one question, when i go and install it will the nice box pop up asking if i wish to install nvidia drivers?
[23:42] <bkc_> no
[23:42] <natman> why not?
[23:42] <natman> it always used to
[23:43] <bkc_> you have to add a repository and then install the drivers from whatever package-manager you prefer :)
[23:43] <natman> but in the end of the day, without too much hassel i will have my nvidia working?
[23:43] <bkc_> yes
[23:44] <natman> cool, thx bkc_ see you Friday im guessing
[23:44] <bkc_> I'll be here ;)


[09:16] <a-l-e> i've been using meetup for years as an orgainzer and i just discovered gettogether today and i'm wondering if there is github issues are the best way to give feedback to the project...
[09:17] <a-l-e> mmm... sorry, i guess that my irc client did not open a new channel on /msg...


[10:10] <tsdgeos> Mirv: so there won't be Qt 5.8.1 :/
[10:15] <Saviq> straight onto 5.9?
[10:18] <tsdgeos> yep
[10:18] <tsdgeos> http://blog.qt.io/blog/2017/02/22/qt-roadmap-for-2017/
[10:18] <tsdgeos> it's kind of long
[10:18] <tsdgeos> "we are not planning to provide any patch releases for Qt 5.8 to make sure that we release Qt 5.9.0 with the planned schedule. "
[10:19] <tsdgeos> is the excerpt
[10:36] <Mirv> tsdgeos: yeah, that's really bad
[10:37] <Mirv> .1 has been usually where it's somewhat safe to start migrating to
[15:25] <mterry> josharenson: I don't recall either of us making any progress on figuring out why my greeter-arrangement branch broke keyboard input?  I might try looking at that again
[15:26] <josharenson> mterry: Oh yeah.. sorry I got sidetracked on that. Its also never fun working on greeter issues that require the actual greeter :-/
[15:26] <mterry> josharenson: yeah  :(