[13:48] <trijntje> onca: what version of ubuntu are you using? According to the wiki, grub-install should overwrite all old config files. What is the error message you get while booting?
[13:48] <onca> trijntje: 13.10
[13:49] <trijntje> onca: 13.10? That release is not stable yet, and not recommended for use
[13:49] <onca> still, this isn't about the installation, moreso why when I came back to fix grub my system is kaput
[13:50] <onca> I was happy with ubuntu, grub is a pain in my a** though
[13:50] <BluesKaj> onca, which grub are you using?
[13:50] <flipper88_fl> onca: have you tires supergrtubdisc?
[13:52] <BluesKaj> onca, try #ubuntu+1 . you might get more co-operation there
[13:55] <BluesKaj> onekt, do you have a live cd/usb that you can use , we can do some commands to reinstall grub from it .
[13:55] <BluesKaj> oops sorry onekt , onca left
[13:57] <marianne> hi guys... anyone manage to get an android connected on 12.04...android is on ICS and the otpions available don't include USB for some reason
[13:58] <navyseal> hi all
[13:58] <navyseal> there's any elementary os channel?
[13:59] <compdoc> meaning?
[13:59] <BluesKaj> if you talking about ubuntu OS , this is the place, navyseal
[13:59] <boog> marianne, mtp is supported on 13.04, but not on 12.04. one reason why I upgraded to 13.04
[13:59] <kostkon> !elementary | navyseal
[13:59] <kostkon> damn
[14:00] <compdoc> !damn | kostkon
[14:00] <compdoc> shucks
[14:00] <marianne> boog: seriously? can I cry now? been looking online all morning....you pretty much confirmed my suspicions
[14:00] <BluesKaj> marianne,  what did you decide about your pci soundcard ?
[14:01] <marianne> boog: but then I can't even get my Mac to 'see' it
[14:01] <AlexPortable> : Ophalen van http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages is mislukt  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[14:01] <boog> marianne, there are some ppa's that will add it to 12.04, but I personally think that 13.04 support is better
[14:02] <marianne> BluesKaj: went with the onboard and returned the card. RTFM'd the mother manual and found the onboard does what I was looking for the sound card to do... i have 5.1 now  :-)
[14:02] <neta> a stupid question- i have a dual boot- windows7 with lubuntu 13.04, so i have grub2. i made a bootable usb-stick with another linux distro (i want to try it). how can i make the grub2 too boot from the usb?
[14:02] <BluesKaj> marianne, cool :)
[14:02] <marianne> boog: want an LTS version then....
[14:02] <boog> it seems there are still some issued to be worked out, like copying a folder with a large number of files seems to fail
[14:03] <compdoc> boog, thats often a hardware problem
[14:03] <marianne> boog: going to see if I can move all my data to the sim card and the pop it out and put it in a 'reader'
[14:03] <boog> compdoc, I have had the issue on multiple computers, and different android devices
[14:03] <AlexPortable> how do i fix dis
[14:05] <boog> marianne, you can also try options like the ftp server built into es file explorer or airdroid
[14:06] <BluesKaj> neta, or you could use the usb to install grub to the mbr
[14:06] <boog> airdroid is neat because you can do more than just transfer files
[14:07] <marianne> boog: pretty new to android stuff and I'm working off a fresh install of 12.04 on new hardware. yeah, learning curve here.
[14:08] <boog> yup, I was there too. especially after getting a nexus 7, and finding that mass storage mode was gone from android
[14:09] <marianne> boog: I have a galaxy s3 and yeah... I undrestand why the developers did what they did, but man... they could have warned us
[14:09] <basit> where can i get ubuntu touch binaries to install and test on my android tablet? and a good tutorial on installing the same
[14:10] <boog> I have the S3, too. I'm not sure who had warning lol, but it is still aggravating. I'm sure linux will catch up before long
[14:11] <marianne> boog: found instructions on how to set it up and connect with terminal, but that's for another day... little too hungover from last nights MMA fights
[14:12] <boog> hahaha! Like I said, try airdroid.
[14:12] <neta> BlueKaj, when i boot my computer ignore the usb
[14:13] <BluesKaj> neta, what did you use to install ubuntu ?
[14:15] <neta> BluesKaj, when i had only windows i changed the bios to make it boot from usb, and installed ubuntu. now when i change the bios options it still ignores the usb
[14:17] <BluesKaj> neta, do you have a cdrom , could you burn an ubuntu-live cd?
[14:17] <neta> BluesKaj, no cd-rom.. only usb ports
[14:19] <BluesKaj> neta, only usb ports , but can't boot from them ...hmm check the usb stick to make sure the ubuntu imahe is still on it
[14:19] <BluesKaj> image
[14:21] <neta> BluesKaj, yep.. i had no problems installing ubuntu from that very usb-stick.. i assumed it's becouse the grub2 maybe..
[14:22] <BluesKaj> neta, nope , grub should have installed without any trouble
[14:22] <BluesKaj> grub2 rather
[14:22] <BluesKaj> but you do see the grub menu when booting , right ?
[14:23] <AlexPortable> anyone whoc an help me?
[14:23] <neta> BluesKaj, yes, i can go to my lubuntu and windows.. just not the usb
[14:25] <Oxymoron> IS it possible to change my IP, to make webbrowser think I am on a different IP, even that I aint?
[14:26] <BluesKaj> sorry neta , I misread your orginal question ..facepalm!
[14:26] <AlexPortable> hi?>
[14:26] <AlexPortable> fdtrijlihtfdrtfghijkogytf
[14:26] <AlexPortable> Oxymoron: why do you want that for your webbrowser?
[14:26] <BluesKaj> AlexPortable, justr ask your question
[14:27] <Extreminador> Oxymoron nop... the ip address is not something that is resolved in the computer
[14:27] <Oxymoron> AlexPortable: To get around a chat block on a website :P
[14:27] <Extreminador> it's something resolved in your isp
[14:27] <neta> BluesKaj, lol :) so do you know? is there a command or something to do that?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, use a vpn
[14:27] <Oxymoron> Extreminador: Yes I know, but if you could mask the IP adress, like proxy but without using Proxy because the website can detect it.
[14:27] <Oxymoron> BluesKaj: VPN is the only way? How to setup for free?
[14:28] <AlexPortable> Oxymoron: that's not browser ip
[14:28] <BluesKaj> neta, no I don't
[14:28] <neta> BluesKaj, if that metters, i have uefi
[14:28] <Oxymoron> AlexPortable: What is not?
[14:28] <neta> BluesKaj, ok.. thanks anyway :)
[14:28] <Oxymoron> Extreminador: I am using a mobile broadband btw, if that helps? WOuldnt it be possible to force ISP to change IP on my router?
[14:29] <AlexPortable> Oxymoron: chat block around isn for browser
[14:29] <trijntje> neta: it could be that the bios sees the usb as another hard disk, can you check the bios when you have the usb in the pc to see if it shows two harddisks
[14:29] <AlexPortable> that's for whole network to be applied
[14:29] <Extreminador> well Oxymoron my knowlgement in internet is not that good... i am not sure how proxys works in order to not detect you actual ip address rather that the proxy address
[14:29] <BluesKaj> Oxymoron, check the pm
[14:30] <Oxymoron> AlexPortable: What you mean?
[14:30] <neta> trijntje, how to do that?
[14:30] <Extreminador> i think proxys work like an antenna that repeats your "connection question" and send it to the disire destination... them the desire destination reply to the antenna that send's you back the reply
[14:31] <Extreminador> sow i guess it's like you ask me to ask someone your questions
[14:31] <Oxymoron> Extreminador: As a web developer I know how to detect IP BEHIND the proxy from a website. Thats why I would need to change IP without proxy.
[14:31] <trijntje> neta: that depends on the BIOS, does it have a key to change the boot order just once?
[14:31] <Extreminador> ohh Oxymoron :) them you know more that me...
[14:33] <neta> trijntje, i don't think so, but i can change and rechange.. it's weird because before i had lubuntu i just enabled uefi and it booted from the usb
[14:33] <Oxymoron> Extreminador: However I have not used any VPN or similar before. It should be easy to get around this. Like force Ubuntu/computer to think I am on a different iSP, than I am actually on, to work around the router IP.
[14:45] <AlexPortable> Oxymoron: nothing
[14:48] <t4nk143> how do I show all the directories when im at root? I want to see /etc /dev and so on
[14:49] <t4nk143> ls dosen't list anything
[14:49] <c0d37ar> ls fullpath
[14:50] <linuxuz3r> they remove yahoo on online accounts
[14:50] <jrib> t4nk143: pastebin what you are actually doing
[14:52] <t4nk143> I just want to ls the subdirectorie at "/root"
[14:53] <jrib> t4nk143: are you sure you have any...?
[14:54] <t4nk143> lol nvm,
[14:56] <ShakinShark> Hi
[15:02] <abdeljalil> how can i creat a home network on ubuntu
[15:03] <RILA> what you see under a home network?
[15:03] <gordonjcp> abdeljalil: get some computers, install ubuntu, network them together
[15:03] <RILA> You already got a home network bcs you are on a LAN i suppose.
[15:03] <RILA> Give all your PC's an IP in the same subnet.
[15:03] <RILA> That will create a
[15:03] <RILA> "Home Network"
[15:03] <abdeljalil> i use elementary not ubuntu (ubuntu based)
[15:04] <RILA> Still same story.
[15:04] <abdeljalil> under network i see "entire network"
[15:04] <RILA> Did you assign an IP?
[15:04] <RILA> Or did your DHCP client received DHCP offer?
[15:04] <abdeljalil> -_- i dont know what you are talking about!!!
[15:05] <RILA> Do you have network connection?
[15:05] <BeyonceRocks> Get Free Traffic For Your Site  http://www.te4everyone.com/index.php?ref=37
[15:05] <abdeljalil> what is that too ?
[15:06] <RILA> What do you want to achieve?>
[15:06] <RILA> On your Ubuntu OS?
[15:07] <abdeljalil> just a way to share files and folders
[15:08] <abdeljalil> between my pc and other's
[15:08] <RILA> Okay
[15:08] <RILA> Make sure you put the PC's in the same network with an IP address.
[15:08] <RILA> For example <IP_ADDRESS> = PC1
[15:08] <RILA> <IP_ADDRESS> = PC2
[15:09] <RILA> Then y can share files by SMB
[15:09] <RILA> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1685718
[15:09] <linuxuz3r> SMB?
[15:09] <RILA> In that thread they explain how to share files by SMB
[15:09] <abdeljalil> okay, i will read that, thank's
[15:09] <RILA> Samba filesharing. SMB is the protocol for sharing files on Linux.
[15:11] <abdeljalil> can i use that to share files between linux and other OS
[15:11] <RILA> Yes
[15:11] <RILA> Windows also supports SMB.
[15:11] <linuxuz3r> smb is supported under windows
[15:11] <abdeljalil> good :)
[15:11] <linuxuz3r> what about mac RILA ?
[15:11] <RILA> Also
[15:11] <RILA> Almost every OS supports SMB.
[15:11] <RILA> Inc Mac OS x
[15:11] <RILA> including8
[15:11] <RILA> *
[15:11] <FloodBot1> RILA: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:12] <name5566> inc windows
[15:23] <linuxuz3r> anyone using epiphany
[15:27] <tosate> I want to get the width and height of an image using Image Magick's identify. My picture is 1920x1275. The command 'identify -quiet -format %w [picture]' returns 1920160. Any ideas?
[15:28] <universal> whats the difference between purge and remove --purge ?? simple apt-get purge also removes packages 1st then purges config files.
[15:28] <delac> internal micrphone on eM250 does not work on Raring. I have tried "options snd-hda-intel model=auto/acer/acer-aspire/acer-dmic" but with no luck. Any thoughts?
[15:28] <RILA> Remove is removing the binary
[15:29] <RILA> Purge is removing the config files in /etc/
[15:29] <RILA> Delic
[15:29] <name5566> yes
[15:29] <RILA> Delic: you add it to alsa-mix?
[15:29] <universal> RILA: i asked purge and remove --purge and not purge and remove
[15:30] <universal> RILA: still thnx for your reply
[15:30] <jrib> tosate: are you sure...?
[15:31] <jrib> tosate: if you're not sure what to say, pastebin actual input and output
[15:32] <elijah> How can I find out where an application (recordmydesktop) stores overrides to defaults? I want to reset the defaults. Cannot easily find in home folder, including .local, and apt-get remove/install does not reset them.
[15:32] <jrib> elijah: check ~/.config.  You could probably use strace to see where it makes writes or read documentation (latter is probably easier0
[15:33] <delac> RILA:  alsamixer? I do have stuff in alsamixer, but that either has no effect or affects only external mic. Sound settings do show controls for both external and internal mic.
[15:33] <elijah> jrib: Thanks, docs don't show anything, I will check .config and maybe try strace. thx
[15:34] <RILA> Universal
[15:34] <RILA> I found your answer in the manpage.
[15:34] <RILA> Purge is removing the config files when the binary already got removed.
[15:35] <DeonP> anyone know xl2tpd pretty well ? :)
[15:37] <Legion59> G'Morning all
[15:37] <tosate> jrib: It's obviously a TIFF image consisting of a thumbnail and the actual image. The output contains the two widths 1920 and 160.
[15:38] <jrib> tosate: what are you actually inputting?
[15:38] <jrib> tosate: oh, never mind.  Misread.  One second
[15:38] <tosate> jrib: a TIFF image
[15:39] <jrib> tosate: i meant the command you type
[15:39] <name5566> goodnight all
[15:39] <tosate> 'identify -quiet -format %w [picture]'
[15:39] <tosate> jrib: 'identify -quiet -format %w [picture]'
[15:39] <jrib> tosate: [picture]?
[15:39] <jrib> tosate: that would match files like 'p', 'i', etc
[15:40] <tosate> jrib: that's the path to my picture
[15:40] <tosate> jrib: 'identify -quiet -format %w /home/tosate/mypic.tif'
[15:40] <universal> RILA: no man...still no help.....I am asking the difference between apt-get purge xxxpackage and apt-get remove --purge xxxpackage and not between apt-get remove xxxpackage and apt-get purge xxxpackage.....I am asking this to bring out and understand the use of apt-get remove --purge xxxpackage when apt-get purge xxxpackage already removes the package 1st and then purges its config file by itself
[15:41] <aJayMet66> Hi everybody!
[15:41] <universal> others ^^^
[15:42] <ubunturemaster> I'm remastering an Ubuntu Live CD. I want basically a browser(firefox, chrome), a media player, pdf viewer and flash to work in addition to networking. Where can I find a list of other removable packages?
[15:42] <tosate> jrib: I have to add an index: 'identify -format %w /home/tosate/mypic.tif[0]'
[15:42] <jrib> tosate: ah, cool
[15:42] <ThePieMan> hello, can anybody tell me whats image is this and how is it related to Ubuntu? https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-yA5byanLRIQ/UTeBOe6M1rI/AAAAAAAAFK0/FzRjrlAaZR8/s1000-fcrop64=1,00000090ff9ed7f6/____nyan_cat_precise_____wallpaper_by_sonyrootkit-d4vyep9.png
[15:43] <RILA> Universal: apt-get remove --purge xxxpackage can only be used when the package is still installed and will remove binary and config file. apt-get purge xxxpackage can be used without the binary on your system and will remove only the config files.
[15:43] <ubunturemaster> And, what's the alternative for Totem now? I seem unable to install VLC or smplayer.
[15:44] <ThePieMan> ubunturemaster, Parole Media Player
[15:44] <ubunturemaster> ThePieMan: apt-get install ... ?
[15:44] <universal> RILA: hmm....but when you purge any package then it shows in terminal that its removeing the package 1st and then removing its config files
[15:45] <ThePieMan> !find parole
[15:45] <universal> so it looks like the same
[15:45] <ubunturemaster> thank you ThePieMan
[15:45] <ThePieMan> ubunturemaster, np
[15:46] <RILA> universal: its the same yes. Only apt-get remove --purge can only be run when the libary exist on your system. If not you have to run apt-get purge to remove the config files
[15:46] <FastCode> is it okay for compiz edge attraction to make windows behave weird or is it conflicting with something else?
[15:47] <jeeves_moss> is there a good package that's free to monitor an Exchange 2010 server with Nagios?
[15:47] <universal> RILA: meaning the binary in /var/cache/apt/archives ??
[15:49] <RILA> universal: no mostly apt-get will install the binary in /usr/bin
[15:49] <DeonP> where can i go to get some help with xl2tpd setup
[15:49] <ThePieMan> can anybody tell me tell me whats image is this and how is it related to Ubuntu? http://i.imgur.com/gTacrGe.png
[15:50] <Craig910> Nya cat
[15:50] <Craig910> no its not related to ubuntu
[15:51] <gordonjcp> ThePieMan: 12.04 desktop wallpaper
[15:51] <gordonjcp> with added nyancat
[15:51] <ThePieMan> Craig910, ok, thanks! only the background image is ubuntu wallpaper
[15:51] <ThePieMan> gordonjcp, ok thanks
[15:52] <ubunturemaster> I'm remastering an Ubuntu Live CD. I want basically a browser(firefox, chrome), a media player, pdf viewer and flash to work in addition to networking. Where can I find a list of other removable packages?
[15:55] <Seeker`> 2/wc
[15:55] <evilmarshmallow> Hi there.
[15:56] <evilmarshmallow> If I chance the username it automatically change the user's folder name too?
[15:57] <neekz0r> ubunturemaster: ouch... i don't know that you are going to find such a list since all those of requirments for a base install, i would start from a base system with nothing installed and build up from there
[15:57] <neekz0r> evilmarshmallow: how are you changing the username?
[15:57] <RILA> neekz0r: with usermod
[15:58] <RILA> evilmarshmallow: it wont change the folder name. Though, your useraccount will still be linked to that folder.
[15:58] <ubunturemaster> neekz0r: I'm behind a slow internet connection. Altough that'd be ideal, it's time consuming for me. I already got ride of bluetooth, libreoffice, empathy, thunder and ubuntu sso related stuff.
[15:58] <ubunturemaster> neekz0r: Am sure there's a lot more obvious stuff.
[15:58] <neekz0r> evilmarshmallow: then yes, if you use the option '-m'
[15:59] <evilmarshmallow> Thanks neekz0r, I'm trying it.
[15:59] <neekz0r> ubunturemaster: yeah, a lot..
[16:00] <ubunturemaster> neekz0r: Anything large that comes to your mind?
[16:02] <neekz0r> ubunturemaster: i would recommend dpkg --get-selections
[16:02] <neekz0r> and then weed out what you think you don't need
[16:03] <neekz0r> although, if your project is just to get a 'functional cd' os, i would just use knoppix instead
[16:07] <imanc> is there a screen sharing meeting app like join.me or teamviewer that works on ubuntu?
[16:08] <linuxuz3r> where can i contribute to debug projects
[16:08] <auronandace> imanc: you can install teamviewer from their site but anything installed from outside the repos can't be officially supported here
[16:16] <gattuso5065> search somebody which want to become my pen friend
[16:17] <DeonP> hello folks
[16:22] <gassho> chromium-browser keeps disappearing or something in 13.04
[16:22] <gassho> in unity
[16:25] <yokomishu> こんにちわ
[16:25] <yokomishu> は誰日本語を話す？
[16:26] <OerHeks> !jp | yokomishu
[16:26] <yokomishu> ok
[16:26] <____> how do I do  chmod +x to see if this will install with wine
[16:29] <OerHeks> ____, chmod +x <filename> # see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions#Changing_Permissions
[16:30] <____> owner@owner /tmp $ chmod +x mtssa-1.3.3.exe
[16:30] <____> chmod: cannot access ‘mtssa-1.3.3.exe’: No such file or directory
[16:30] <OerHeks> ____, <filename> = /path/to/<filename>
[16:31] <OerHeks> ____, for further issues, join #winehq for application help
[16:31] <____> oh i misspelt thefilename
[16:32] <____> missing operand after ‘mtasa-1.3.3.exe’
[16:33] <see1> how i can install fail2ban ???
[16:33] <____> omg why is this so fucking awkward
[16:34] <see1> ubuntu says cant find packed
[16:34] <____> I dont understand  <filename> = /path/to/<filename>
[16:34] <pyrex> so it turns out the windows 8 system recovery partition has the bootloader on it -- and i blindly decided to erase it with grub2 files. now windows complains it cant find the BCD files
[16:34] <OerHeks> see1 there is a good wiki about fail2ban > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fail2ban
[16:34] <____> what am I meant to type
[16:35] <____> its tmp/mtasa-1.3.3.exe
[16:35] <vlt> Hello. I connected a new screen to my DVI video out but it says "out of range". xrandr says the following: http://pastebin.com/95SRVv7j  Any idea what to check and how to make the screen work?
[16:35] <pyrex> any suggestions? I plan to try to recovery mode, but meh I have a complicated GPT/MBR setup and it always gets confused
[16:35] <see1> OerHeks: jo i know ..but if i type apt-get install he mean can´t find packed
[16:35] <OerHeks> ____, learn your basics first: using a file outside your /home/ needs sudo
[16:36] <OerHeks> see1, what ubuntu version ?
[16:36] <see1> OerHeks: Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.2.45-x86_64-jb1 x86_64)
[16:36] <DeonP> i'm running ubuntu server 13.04 and have to connect to my isp to get a fixed ip on adsl, The connection is via PPP and L2TP. I'm using xl2tpd for this. got all setup xl2tpd starts but does not start pppd for some reason, ppp auth is PAP
[16:36] <____> ok now I got no errors
[16:37] <Mnemon> ____: chmod +x file.exe or chmod +x /tmp/file.exe should work if you're in /tmp folder.
[16:37] <____> but wine still cant open it
[16:37] <Mnemon> OerHeks: you can usually write to /tmp as normal user ...
[16:37] <Frank81> Any one can suggest a way to see what moduls get loaded by what init ram drive img?
[16:37] <____> illl download it to downlods/
[16:37] <RILA> ____: Look if it is runing with the command top
[16:38] <RILA> _____: cant you just better use windows instead of Linux? You dont even know some basics.
[16:38] <Frank81> RILA can you help me if you know more then some basics
[16:39] <RILA> Well i am not a professional but i do handle the basics yes.
[16:39] <____> error launching explorer still
[16:40] <Frank81> i have the problem that with any kernel after 3.8 the luks password can't be entered on boot i tracked that problem down since it only happens with new kernels that it is probally that the usb hid driver don't get loaded so how can i fix that or even see if it gets loaded i have no keyboard when i boot kernel after 3.8 so i see only luks passwd prompt and can't enter anything
[16:40] <Mnemon> ____: what error are you getting?
[16:40] <____> why would I go back to windows
[16:40] <pyrex> Frank81 try booting with init=/bin/bash might work then lsmod
[16:40] <____> 'error launching installer'
[16:40] <____> NSIS error
[16:40] <OerHeks> ____, for further issues, join #winehq for application help
[16:41] <____> thanks
[16:41] <Mnemon> then the executable probably just doen't work with wine.
[16:41] <RILA> Frank81: Is your keyboard working during your Grub Bootloader?
[16:41] <Frank81> jep looks like it
[16:42] <auronandace> Frank81: this channel can't support kernels that are not from the official repos
[16:42] <Frank81> i can choose other kernels and rescue mode and enter bios etc
[16:42] <Frank81> aronand no kernel support needed general support needed
[16:42] <Frank81> this scenario applys to any kernel i need to see if the new kernel loads the usb drivers
[16:42] <Frank81> thats a general case
[16:43] <Frank81> and you can google it such things even  happend on 2.6 kernels and so on
[16:44] <Frank81> pyrex: good advice thx but i don't wanna reboot the machine at present again i am searching for a none reboot option to simply see what gets loaded or not i heard there are utils for such but maybe not in ubuntu coz to new
[16:47] <Frank81> so here realy no one ever looked what moduls get loaded by a init rd img do i see that right? you only know the ability what is currently loaded when system booted?
[16:47] <pyrex> Frank81 alright, well you could mount the intrd.img file and look around to make sure the modules you need are there.
[16:47] <Frank81> i did that they are there
[16:47] <Frank81> but i need to look what he loads i found only information of /etc/modules
[16:48] <Frank81> but that can't it be ^
[16:48] <pyrex> hmm. perhaps looking through dmesg? not sure aside from that
[16:48] <bean> Frank81, is english your native language? just wondering?
[16:50] <Frank81> bean nope it isn't why?
[16:50] <Frank81> i know my english sucks a bit sorry for that i try my best :D
[16:51] <Frank81> hmmm maybe i simply say this is a bug and report it that will make my head free
[16:57] <bean> Frank81, because maybe someone in a language you know better could help you. :)
[16:57] <bean> idk
[16:58] <____> HELP
[16:58] <____> OerHeks
[16:59] <Frank81> bean maybe maybe but the people at +1 aggree that we simply call it a bug
[16:59] <Frank81> so they will care for that ^
[16:59] <Frank81> thx anyway
[16:59] <____> HELP!!
[17:00] <ubuntu-studio> hello
[17:00] <____> IVE BEEN IN #winehq and everybody is fucking idle
[17:00] <IdleOne> ____: Please stop swearing
[17:00] <____> ive been to #mta everybody is a retarded kid
[17:01] <____> 'oh use mac' 'ohwell use windows'
[17:01] <____> NO!
[17:02] <pyrex> if wine doesnt work then a vm is a solid option.
[17:03] <ubuntu-studio> i wrote on gedit a string in c and then i run on terminal gcc and the name of the prog, but it tells me No such file or directory. why
[17:03] <____> My control pads wont work with mac or windows
[17:03] <pyrex>  /NETWORK ADD -autosendcmd /msg nickserv identify wilson
[17:03] <pyrex> ops
[17:03] <Frank81> ubuntu-studio: it tells you that coz the file is simply not there
[17:03] <pyrex> haha
[17:03] <____> the cd dont work in virtualbox
[17:04] <Frank81> 19:04:03 - NickServ: You have been logged out of Frank81.
[17:04] <Frank81> 19:04:03 - NickServ: You are now identified for pyrex.
[17:04] <Frank81> nice
[17:04] <Frank81> :D
[17:04] <FloodBot1> Frank81: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:04] <ubuntu-studio> ok but why its not there if i saved the file with c  extension on the desktop
[17:04] <pyrex> :( damn spaces
[17:05] <ubuntu-studio> frank81
[17:05] <Frank81> ubuntu-studio: don't know and whats more importent no other will know simply search for the file do "sudo find / -iname 'filename.c'"
[17:05] <Frank81> that will work
[17:06] <Frank81> then you see if the file is there and where
[17:06] <andycc> ubuntu-studio: gcc ~/Desktop/*.c
[17:07] <ubuntu-studio> fran81 andycc  thanks guys
[17:09] <gattuso5065> there is somebody  which speaks french here
[17:09] <bazhang> gattuso5065, #ubuntu-fr for that
[17:10] <gattuso5065> because i am french ...
[17:11] <bazhang> !fr | gattuso5065
[17:11] <gattuso5065> ok thx
[17:15] <gabriel_> somewhere can help for connecting me at a T411 channel ?
[17:17] <OerHeks> !alis
[17:23] <nick123> Hi. Whats the easisest language to learn and earn, php, python, html or other?:)
[17:24] <nick123> As first language
[17:24] <nick123> Or c plus plus
[17:25] <bazzer> hey anyone happen to know the status of the gvfs-gdu-volume-monitor bugs?
[17:25] <bazhang> !ot | nick123
[17:25] <nick123> ok sorry
[17:25] <bazzer> i think it's the cause of my problems trying to loopback mount a large number of iso files...it pegs my cpu at 100%
[17:26] <nick123> Is ubuntu better thenn win 8?
[17:26] <green_geeky_dude> Yes
[17:27] <nick123> Ok:)
[17:27] <green_geeky_dude> yw :)
[17:27] <bazhang> nick123, thats a chat question; #ubuntu-offtopic Please
[17:28] <nick123> Becouse of file system i guess
[17:28] <nick123> :)
[17:28] <nick123>  Baz ok sorry
[17:31] <gassho> how do i access and implement asm on ubuntu
[17:36] <shut> Does anybody know about a software similar to EpocCam that i can use my ipad cam as a webcam on Linux Laptop?
[17:42] <mustafal> أي شخص يتكلم العربية؟
[17:43] <mustafal> ايم تواجه مشكلة مع أوبونتو
[17:44] <mustafal> djones what do I done???
[17:45] <DJones> mustafal: Just sent you a private message
[17:45] <basichash> What does -p do in cp -p?
[17:47] <andycc> basichash: try "man cp" first, maybe. http://man.cx/cp
[17:48] <mustafal> انا بحاجة الى مساعدة مع "سوف segfault" أوبونتو بلدي في كل مكان
[17:48] <basichash> thanks andycc
[17:48] <DJones> !arabic
[17:49] <mustafal> thanks
[17:51] <loki_> hello all!
[17:52] <tyl3r> nterthegame.com
[17:53] <loki_> I am looking for some help.  I just installed a 4 port SATA card in a system I just built, however the drive is not showing.  I used LSPCI to check and see if the card is even being detected by ubuntu and it is.  Any idea how I can get this working?  Per the mfg the card is supported in kernels 2.6.x and higher.  I am currently on kernel 3.8.0-29.  Any help would be appreciated :D
[17:54] <DeonP> anyone have experience with xl2tpd or can refer me to someone that has
[17:56] <loki_> dead in here :D
[18:01] <loki_> 1643 people in the room and no one is talking? WTF?
[18:02] <daftykins> loki_: oh hi
[18:02] <daftykins> loki_: 'sudo fdisk -l' doesn't show the disk at all?
[18:02] <loki_> let me try
[18:02] <green_geeky_dude> <- is busy drinking coffee and eating cuppy cakes - this is important stuff
[18:02] <loki_> it doesn't show in gparted
[18:02] <daftykins> green_geeky_dude: carry on the good work, sir
[18:03] <green_geeky_dude> TY :) will do
[18:03] <loki_> tried mount -a
[18:03] <loki_> nothing
[18:03] <loki_> let me try frisk -l
[18:03] <loki_> fdisk
[18:03] <daftykins> well if it's a blank disk it won't be mounted anywhere (:
[18:03] <loki_> it's not blank
[18:04] <loki_> not showing in fdisk
[18:05] <loki_> any ideas daftykins ?
[18:05] <daftykins> loki_: what card is it? what's the lspci entry?
[18:05] <loki_> hold please, let me get the link
[18:06] <loki_> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124064
[18:06] <loki_> that is the card
[18:06] <loki_> lspci entry shows this
[18:06] <loki_> 01:00.0 SATA controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Device 9215 (rev 10)
[18:07] <daftykins> and which ubuntu is this?
[18:08] <loki_> 12.04.3
[18:08] <zykotick9> loki_: what is the pciid, looks like 22222:22222 type thing, use "lspci -vnvn" to get it.
[18:08] <loki_> ok hold on
[18:10] <loki_> pastebin.com/ZbfXY0KT
[18:11] <zykotick9> sorry i don't go to pastebin.com...
[18:11] <loki_> ok.  hang on.  I will drop it in to paste.ubuntu.com
[18:11] <daftykins> zykotick9: you're serious?
[18:11] <daftykins> O_O
[18:12] <loki_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6052232/
[18:12] <loki_> either way.
[18:12] <loki_> anything look strange there?
[18:12] <daftykins> wow at how google comes up with nothing for ubuntu + that card
[18:13] <loki_> I got one or two hits, but nothing of use
[18:13] <daftykins> hrmm i wonder if this 'mvs' driver is of any use
[18:13] <zykotick9> loki_: good luck with that card.  from #debian's judd bot "[1b4b:9215] is 'Unknown device' from 'Marvell Technology Group Ltd.' with no known kernel module in wheezy or in sid."  that's NOT a good sign for support...  hope you get it working.
[18:14] <loki_> :( that sucks
[18:14] <meet> hi. I installed e17. but i am not able to set any icons for applications. from the right click menu when i try to set an icon from /usr/share/icons i get an error like no permission to modify in this directory. what can i do?
[18:15] <loki_> so looks like I am dead in the water.
[18:16] <greg_> hello! i have a problem with ubuntu server 12.04. it is serving samba shares and users are authenticated with active directory via winbind. Unfortunately it is not possible anymore to login via console nor ssh to the server. after the password prompt a timeout follows. My guess is that my /etc/pam.d/common-auth is the root of the problem: http://pastebin.com/dPRyHU1E . help please
[18:17] <daftykins> loki_: check this out from the manufacturer site: http://www.sybausa.com/resource/SI-PEX40064/88SE91xx_Linux%20web.htm
[18:18] <loki_> daftykins: I believe I am running ACHI as it is.
[18:18] <loki_> AHCI
[18:18] <loki_> any way I can verify that from CLI?
[18:22] <daftykins> loki_: i think it's beyond me that one, sorry :(
[18:22] <loki_> no worries
[18:23] <loki_> it sounds like this thing just isn't going to work
[18:23] <DeonP> no biters on xl2tpd :)
[18:25] <loki_> question about larger drives
[18:25] <loki_> daftykins: perhaps you could answer something for me?
[18:25] <daftykins> just ask away ^_^
[18:26] <loki_> : if I format a 3TB drive as GPT, shouldn't fdisk report that it has more than 63sectors/track?
[18:26] <loki_> it looks like the sector size may be wrong.  is this a problem?
[18:26] <loki_> says the sector size (logical) is 512 and physical is 4096.  saying that for 3 drives (1 3TB and 2 2TB drives)
[18:29] <daftykins> loki_: not sure, i was under the impression sector size is a bit antiquated
[18:30] <loki_> I was under the impression that anything larger than 2.1TB would always have a sector size of 4096.
[18:30] <Guest11837> hello :)
[18:30] <Guest11837> i need help regarding Ubuntu 12.04.3
[18:31] <daftykins> loki_: oh for the 4KB clusters? meh, i'm not sure fdisk is even up to GPT reading
[18:31] <daftykins> Guest11837: ask away
[18:31] <Guest11837> i need it running for my graduation project sir
[18:31] <loki_> it says it isn't.
[18:31] <Guest11837> but i am not able to start wifi in it
[18:32] <Guest11837> i need to run ns-2 with wifi on it
[18:32] <Guest11837> i you could please guide me
[18:33] <DeonP> oh did i have trouble on 12.04's wifi, one of the updates broke it, had to start network manager manually for a long time
[18:33] <Guest11837> actually my network adapter is broadcom 4313
[18:34] <Guest11837> and additional driver for the same are blacklisted in the blacklist.conf file
[18:34] <Guest11837> after trying all the way round, i am not able to either make it running or replace it with something suitable
[18:36] <Guest11837> can someone help me please ?
[18:37] <DeonP> dont u have to load firmware for broadcom cards
[18:37] <Guest11837> which one is that?
[18:37] <Guest11837> Ndiswrapper ?
[18:37] <daftykins> Guest11837: ah 4313, ok hang on
[18:37] <daftykins> Guest11837: are you fully updated and dist-upgrade 'd ?
[18:37] <Guest11837> sure sir
[18:37] <bekks> Guest11837: No. Firmware. ndiswrapper is a crappy, ancient framework for loading windows drivers.
[18:38] <Guest11837> oh
[18:38] <daftykins> Guest11837: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1997880
[18:38] <daftykins> check out the two commands in post #2
[18:39] <daftykins> if you have a wired connection you can use to perform them, that'd be ace
[18:39] <daftykins> i'll be back very shortly
[18:39] <DeonP> i hated ndiswrapper, used it on 8.xx was a pain
[18:39] <Guest11837> :) sure sir, i'll try
[18:41] <ElTimo> Hey. I'm getting no sound on an Asus X202E running 13.04. Any ideas?
[18:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Is there a command (or switch) I can use to force GRUB to NOT detect a certain disk or partition?
[18:44] <game_over> türk yokmu la
[18:45] <DeonP> looks like i'm on my own with xl2tpd .
[18:49] <SteamPlayer> I've installed Steam on Ubuntu 13.04 (info: http://pastebin.com/CFnidzG3), but I cannot run any games due to an OpenGL error. Something along the lines of 'could not find opengl entry point'. I have installed the latest non-beta drivers for my GPU, but they don't appear to help.
[18:50] <SteamPlayer> A friend says it may be the fact that my computer is still using the open source driver, rather than the proprietary driver
[18:50] <pyrex> SteamPlayer try adding the open source module to the driver blacklist
[18:51] <SonikkuAmerica> !tu | game_over
[18:51] <SonikkuAmerica> !tr | game_over
[18:51] <pyrex> though make sure the other driver works otherise you wont have video.
[18:51] <Konata> Also check: http://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/1/882966056488160497/
[18:51] <SteamPlayer> pyrex, I'm new to Linux, and have no idea how to do that, or what that even is
[18:51] <Konata> there's a huge discussion on this here
[18:51] <SonikkuAmerica> [ATT 2: 10 minute wait] Is there a command (or switch) I can use to force GRUB to NOT detect a certain disk or partition?
[18:52] <sumthummy> hello all, 12.04 LTS user here
[18:52] <SteamPlayer> That discussion is based on NVIDIA, while I have an AMD graphics card
[18:52] <Dr_Willis> SonikkuAmerica:  why are you needing to do that?
[18:52] <sumthummy> with a wubi install
[18:52] <pyrex> what ati card do you have?
[18:53] <SteamPlayer> ATI RADEON HD 5570
[18:53] <SteamPlayer> I installed the latest driver from here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=<IP_ADDRESS>.42&lang=English
[18:53] <Dr_Willis> SteamPlayer:  the addational-drivers tool/tab or the ati control center should tell you what driver you are using
[18:54] <SteamPlayer> Where can I access that, Dr_Willis?
[18:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis: Particularly because I have an external HDD that I'd like to install Ubuntu onto, and if I install GRUB to the external HDD (to run it independently) it will detect Windows 8 on the main computer itself, which I don't want. (Don't confuse this with a LiveCD install to USB.)
[18:54] <sumthummy> I'd like some help with recovering access to my primary user account
[18:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis: s/LiveCD/Live iamge
[18:54] <SonikkuAmerica> *image
[18:55] <Dr_Willis> SonikkuAmerica:  thats easy. :) edit the /etc/grub.d/ os prober script (or make it not executable) and it shouldent probe for windows, thus not add a windows entry to the grub menu. (i belive)
[18:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis: So just [ sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/XX_os-prober ], where XX is the number (usually 30)?
[18:56] <Dr_Willis>  /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober      is what scans and adds the other os's to the grub menus
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> SonikkuAmerica:  i think so.
[18:56] <SteamPlayer> How do I access the additional drivers tool/tab?
[18:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis: All right, I'll give it a shot
[18:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_Willis: Thx
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> SteamPlayer:  its  the last tab in the 'software sources' tool. i belive. they keep moveing it depending on the ubuntu release
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> SteamPlayer:  run   software-properties-gtk
[18:57] <game_over> türk yokmu la
[18:58] <SteamPlayer> Dr_Willis, 'Continue using a manually installed driver' is ticked, and below that, it says 'No proprietary drivers are in use'
[18:58] <SteamPlayer> The whole section is greyed out
[18:59] <Dr_Willis> SteamPlayer:  that could be  because you used the .run drivers from the ati site I guess. I never use those.
[19:00] <SteamPlayer> Where should I get the drivers from instead?
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> see what the amd control panel tool says
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> I jsut use the repo drivers
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> but i have exactly one, old ati machine left.
[19:00] <SteamPlayer> Is there a tutorial on how to install them for AMD?
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> on a new clean install. You would use that addational-drivers tab/tool and just check them to have them installed. but those will NOT be the 'latest' drivers
[19:00] <daftykins> !ati
[19:01] <game_over> türk yokmu la
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> useing the .run drivers from ati puts it all in your hands basically.
[19:01] <greg_> hey! could someone check my common-auth file? thx http://pastebin.com/dPRyHU1E
[19:02] <SteamPlayer> Is it possible to uninstall the .run drivers and then use the additional drivers dialog?
[19:03] <Fuchs> SteamPlayer: yes. In case of nvidia:   ./NVIDIA-Linux-somethingsomething.run --uninstall
[19:03] <Fuchs> sudo, probably
[19:04] <Guest49267> hello, i am really thankful to you sir :) and ur friends who just helped me in solving the issue of connectivity over wifi for my net adapter broadcom 4313
[19:04] <Guest49267> earlier guest 34117
[19:04] <Guest49267> thank u sir :) and friends , ur two commands worked out
[19:04] <Guest49267> ^_^
[19:04] <sumthummy> hey greg, I looked over it but am not sure what we are checking for
[19:05] <WarlockLord> hey folks, looking for some help here. have a triple boot scenario on my macbook, osx win8 and ubuntu, osx and win8 boot fine, but when i try to boot linux it tells me no boot device found
[19:06] <sumthummy> looking for help regarding recovering/resetting a user account pw from admin account
[19:06] <ikonia> sumthummy: passwd $username
[19:06] <sumthummy> does it matter which directory i run the command in?
[19:07] <ikonia> sumthummy: nope
[19:08] <greg_> sumthummy: hey - thx. the thing is i want that the samba shares are using ad users. but locally (via console, ssh) only unix users should be able to login
[19:08] <greg_> but now it is neither possible to login on samba via ad user nor login to ubuntu with local user
[19:09] <sumthummy> greg: over my head, really. i am having login issues of my own
[19:10] <sumthummy> ikonia: thanks. i ran the command, but it wants to change the pw of the account i am currently using
[19:10] <ikonia> sumthummy: what command did you run
[19:10] <ikonia> exactly
[19:10] <greg_> sumthummy: thx anyways
[19:11] <sumthummy> i want to regain access in to a user account that i've forgotten
[19:11] <ikonia> sumthummy: I didn't ask what you where doing - I asked what command you run exactly
[19:11] <kostkon> sumthummy, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[19:11] <ikonia> it's 1 command
[19:11] <ikonia> you don't need that link
[19:12] <sumthummy> ikonia: i ran 'passwd $barry' where i am sumthummy and barry is locked user account
[19:12] <ikonia> sumthummy: ok, so "sudo passwd barry"
[19:12] <ikonia> sumthummy: try that
[19:13] <indoome> hello
[19:13] <indoome> how can install Skype on my Ubuntu?
[19:13] <sumthummy> greg: you bet
[19:14] <sumthummy> ikonia: you, dear soul, are a good soul indeed
[19:14] <knoppix> hello there
[19:14] <bazhang> indoome, from the partner repo
[19:14] <bazhang> !partner | indoome
[19:14] <indoome> and what's is that ?
[19:14] <bazhang> indoome, see above
[19:14] <pyrex> has anyone tried installing ubuntu on the nexus 7 2013
[19:15] <bazhang> pyrex, #ubuntu-touch for that
[19:15] <sumthummy> thank you!
[19:15] <pyrex> bazhang cool thanks
[19:15] <knoppix> i just tried to this morning no kidding
[19:15] <pyrex> how did it go?
[19:15] <indoome> ok done
[19:15] <knoppix> no luck though
[19:15] <indoome> asked for password and provided it
[19:16] <pyrex> didnt boot?
[19:16] <Dr_Willis> !skype
[19:16] <Dr_Willis> indoome:  now you install the skype package.
[19:16] <knoppix> i hold on ill give you the details
[19:16] <indoome> what's the command ?
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> no idea. use the package manager tools to search for skype now. or read the guide above
[19:17] <bekks> indoome: The command is to read the article linked before :)
[19:17] <indoome> k =D
[19:17] <knoppix> pyrex im opening nextbook 7 to check, not nexus
[19:17] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get update,  apt-cache search skype
[19:17] <indoome> used this command : sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[19:17] <loki_> Skype :(
[19:17] <pyrex> oh :(
[19:17] <indoome> I get : indoome@InDooMe-Ubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386
[19:17] <indoome> dpkg: error: unknown option --add-architecture
[19:17] <indoome> Type dpkg --help for help about installing and deinstalling packages [*];
[19:17] <indoome> Use `dselect' or `aptitude' for user-friendly package management;
[19:17] <indoome> Type dpkg -Dhelp for a list of dpkg debug flag values;
[19:17] <indoome> Type dpkg --force-help for a list of forcing options;
[19:17] <FloodBot1> indoome: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:18] <Dr_Willis> indoome:  and where did that command come from?
[19:18] <indoome> from doing this
[19:18] <indoome> Users of 64-bit Ubuntu, should enable MultiArch if it isn't already enabled by running the command
[19:18] <knoppix> another minute or so
[19:18] <indoome> I use 64-bit Ubuntu
[19:18] <OerHeks> that would not be wise, just use the skype installer from softwarecenter
[19:19] <Dr_Willis> I thought it was allready enabled also.
[19:19] <knoppix> i first installed complete linux install
[19:19] <indoome> I couldn't enable it
[19:19] <pyrex> i was thinking of trying a chroot system first
[19:20] <pyrex> and then going for the full installation once I know most of it works
[19:20] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/7498/how-do-i-install-skype
[19:20] <knoppix> the instructions were to download the 12.04 iso the vnc viewer app and the terminal app.  but couldnt get it to install the iso
[19:22] <knoppix> you may try the app "complete  linux installer" which may work for you pyrex because it has many different install options and you can download it on your android system
[19:22] <barbie> hey guys
[19:23] <barbie> having an issue with the wireless, anyone keen to help me?
[19:23] <pyrex> knoppix interesting app. i may just give that a go
[19:24] <deezed> barbie: what is your problem?
[19:24] <pyrex> only issue with it is that it uses vnc -- i plan to replace the android graphics layer with an x server
, 2 meteres away from it and disconnects
[19:25] <deezed> barbie: it has always been like that?
[19:25] <knoppix> yeah i dont blame you.  when you take the route of vnc they are always clunky and slow, if you can find an alternative I agree that it would be better
, no since i had updated to the latest one
[19:26] <pyrex> ive done it before with the nook color. so http://thomaspolasek.blogspot.ca/2012/04/arch-linux-lxde-w-xorg-mouse-keyboard_16.html
[19:26] <pyrex> but it was a bunch of work and it was just a chroot environment -- no a native installation.
, i mean ubuntu
[19:26] <revelrevol> hello, question here regarding migrating from a wubi installation to a full-on partition: how to do this without losing any userdata?
[19:27] <deezed> barbie: you mean the 13.04?
 indeed
[19:27] <knoppix> yeah from the reading i did this morning, I believe that is the route you will end up taking.  Remotely operating another system on your platform
[19:27] <revelrevol> 12.04 LTS here
[19:28] <deezed> I'm not sure if I understood your problem, but you can maybe try another network manager, like wicd
[19:28] <revelrevol> but that was cross conversation ;-)
[19:28] <bazhang> !wubi | revelrevol check this
[19:28] <pyrex> knoppix well it should be possible to use the same kernel as on the android device and just point it towards a new root partiton
[19:28] <pyrex> graphics may not work if the correct drivers arent there though -- damn androids custom video interface.
 isn't it by default there?
[19:29] <Rallias> What's the normal $PATH for uid=0 ?
[19:30] <ikonia> Rallias: depends on the distro
[19:30] <ikonia> Rallias: but normally contains bin, sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin
[19:30] <Rallias> ikonia, I asked in #ubuntu didn't I?
[19:30] <ikonia> Rallias: I don't know, I'm not looking in that channel
 how can i check it?
[19:30] <deezed> barbie: I'm not sure. I'm still running 12.04, but I had a problem sometime ago with the default network manager, which wasnt wicd. With wicd is much better
[19:31] <ikonia> Rallias: apologies, was looking at the wrong channel
[19:31] <Rallias> :P
[19:31] <revelrevol> bazhang: not sure how to check !wubi
[19:31] <ikonia> Rallias: uid=0 shouldn't be used, as the root account is locked
[19:31] <deezed> barbie: if you go to synaptics you can check if you have it or not
 thanks for help but i have already tried it
[19:31] <WarlockLord> hmmmmmm apparently Linux has to be installed on partition 3 or lower for grub to work and Win8 on the last partition
[19:31] <revelrevol> ubottu: checking the links now, thanks. I am 'inside' Win 7 Pro
[19:31] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide     revelrevol
[19:31] <deezed> barbie: and what did you figure out?
[19:32] <revelrevol> haha thanks bazhang
 heared some stuff about the password between the router nd my computer
[19:34] <pyrex> knoppix so it looks like the next ubuntu release 13.10 will use Mir -- which utlizes libhybris to interface with the graphics graphics system
[19:34] <pyrex> should make it much easier to get ubuntu /w graphics running on android devices
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> pyrex:  it will? i thought that got delayed.
[19:35] <OerHeks> first Xmir, then Mir
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> that seems like building a house befor you get the foundation done. ;)
[19:35] <pyrex> Dr_Willis i was reading it off the wikipedia. does xmir run ontop of mir?
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> pyrex:  its a compatabilty layer or somthing. lets you get x apps on mir i belive
[19:36] <knoppix> I have that version now pyrex.  i think its great.  the only drawback is that I mostly use the 12.04 updated version because google chrome does not work properly on the 13.04  they have some bugs and I really use that alot.  i installed the google chrome by hand and it still had problems.  you may want to keep 12.04 updated version until that bug is fixed
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> or was it mir apps on X.
[19:36] <OerHeks> That is just the goal, foundation or metal does not matter anymore
[19:36] <barbie> i need to ask somebody to check my computer
[19:37] <pyrex> knoppix thanks for the info. have you tried firefox, also does the terminal run well?
[19:38] <deezed> barbie: lol, I didnt get it. Maybe you should try a live cd with other linux distro to see if it's working properly first. Then you can see if its your computer or your configs
[19:38] <knoppix> didnt try firefox on 13.04 but the terminal is perfect everything works really well.  just the google chrome thing, but chromium works
[19:38] <pyrex> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/27/mir-plans-in-13-10/
[19:38] <pyrex> Dr_Willis so Xmir is X running on Mir
[19:38] <deezed> knoppix: anyway, chromium is almost the same thing, or better, right?
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> pyrex:  if you say so. i havent been keeping up wth  the mir news. I am on 13.10 right now. and  no mir installed at all as far as i can tell
 i know that i am on ubuntu for some time now
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> pyrex:  2nd paragraph here ->  http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/08/15/mir-update-and-testing-mir-in-ubuntu-13-10/
 it was good until i have pressed the ok to upgrade the button
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> 14.04 mir will be the default. :) it seems.
[19:40] <barbie> i know how to check the version of the ubuntu i am now
[19:40] <bekks> barbie: Run "lsb_release -a" in a terminal
 sorry?
[19:41] <Dr_Willis> !version
[19:41] <Dr_Willis> open a terminal window.. type in the command..
[19:42] <deezed> barbie:  how did you do the upgrade?
No LSB modules are available.
[19:42] <barbie> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[19:42] <barbie> Description:	Ubuntu 13.04
[19:42] <barbie> Release:	13.04
[19:42] <FloodBot1> barbie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:43] <Dr_Willis> so... reading your output.. you can conclude  you are on... err.. 13.04
[19:43] <deezed> Dr_Willis: lol
[19:43]  * Dr_Willis closes the ticket.
 it asked me, and have pressed ok
[19:44] <barbie> what does FloodBot1 want from me?
[19:44] <deezed> barbie: can you try to upgrade again?
[19:44] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  wants you to stop flooding the channel with useless lines
[19:44] <barbie> deezed i will try it
 whaat did i do wrong?
[19:45] <deezed> barbie: maybe with the normal 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[19:45] <Dr_Willis> pasted 4 lines of useless info.. to answer your own question
[19:46] <barbie> deezed, it asks me to upgrade the firefox only
[19:46] <barbie> i did it
[19:46] <Dr_Willis> barbie: if the apt commands above givbe a lot of errors/info you may want to pastebin the output to some pastebin site. then give the url here. for us to look at.
[19:47] <barbie> Dr_Willis sir, do not know what a pastebin site means
[19:47] <deezed> Dr_Willis: I'm not sure, but I have the feeling that when we accept those messages to upgrade we can do something wrong, or not upgrade everything we need. is it true?
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> !pastebin | barbie
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> deezed:  im not even sure what the original problem is or was
[19:48] <deezed> Dr_Willis: true
[19:48] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  so you are on 13.04 - and the problem is what exactly?
[19:49] <mojtaba> Hi, Is there anyway to encrypt all the emails in the inbox? I know how can I send encrypted emails using public key
[19:49] <jammieisftw> http://cyberforums.net/index.php << CYBERFORUMS FTW
[19:49] <jammieisftw> http://cyberforums.net/index.php << CYBERFORUMS FTW
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> yea. spamming a forum in  here makes me want to go there.. *sigh*
[19:50] <barbie_> -UX31E:~$ !pastebin
[19:50] <barbie__> i was disconnected again!!!!
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> we saw that barbie__
[19:50] <barbie__> any help sir?
[19:50] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  so you are on 13.04 - and the problem is what exactly?
[19:51] <mojtaba> Hi, Is there anyway to encrypt all the emails in the inbox? I know how can I send encrypted emails using public key with enigmail and thunderbird.
[19:51] <barbie__> wireless drops out on 2 meters away
[19:52] <barbie__> from the router of course
[19:52] <Dr_Willis> id say determine your exact wifi chipset/card and check the forums and bug reports  and askubuntu.com to see if anyone else has reported a similer issue.
[19:52] <barbie__> did it sir willis, otherwise i woulldn't come here
[19:53] <barbie__> tried everything, i need some bright, out of the box thinking minds
[19:53] <w30> barbie__, sounds like competition from another radio wave producing device; microwave? small nuclear detination?
[19:54] <marian_> how can I open epub files?
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> marian_:  calibre can convert them i belive - if you cant find somthing to directly read them
[19:54] <barbie__> yes sir, some keep me on ubuntu one
[19:54] <riqdiiz> Dr_Willis: hello
[19:54] <barbie__> love it, but i need some friends here
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPUB#Software_reading_systems
[19:55] <OerHeks> marian_, i use calibre for all ebooks
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> Calibre 1.0 was just released this week (or last week) ;) or somthing.
[19:55] <barbie__> the funny thing is that everyone is going to help, but when it comes to some serios
[19:56] <barbie__> serious stuff everyone is out
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> barbie__:  if its a external interfearance source. theres not a lot we can do about it.
[19:56] <marian_> sudo apt-get install calibre
[19:56] <marian_> right?
[19:56] <marian_> my son install this machine but he is not here
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> if its an internal driver/bug/kernel issue barbie__  then a 13.10 live cd MIGHT have updated drivers that may remove the issue. (worth testing)
[19:56] <deezed> barbie__: why do you think it is more serious than the others problems?
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> !info calibre
[19:56] <thisismynick> IRC client suggestion, anyone?
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> marian_:  yep
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> thisismynick:  weechat
[19:57] <thisismynick> thanks
[19:57] <Obi1> what was the command for DVD region1 sudo apt-get install dvd read  something?
 it is a fiber opthics, which worked ok until the 13th of ubuntu
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> barbie__:  that statement makes no sence.. if your Wireless btween the router and the pc is having issues.. the fact you got fiber to the router.. dosent matter.
 could be but couldn't solve it till now
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> someone or somthing in the area MAY be causing interfearance. you can change the  channels and other wifi settings. and scan the area and see if theres other sources
[19:59] <Dr_Willis> ive had wifi cards that got disconnected every time my Home phone rang.. ;)
 no way, help others if you cannot help me, no problem
[19:59] <marian_> installed callibre but epub open in archive manager
 i have a great connection between my wifi and my pc while on 1 meter away, otherwise it sucks
[20:00] <Dr_Willis> marian_:  run calibre and import the book to your library
[20:00] <Dr_Willis> calibre is not 'just' an ebook reader. ;)
[20:01] <Dr_Willis> barbie__:  which points to some external infearance, or a very weird driver/kernel bug.
[20:01] <loki_> Dr_Willis: what other functionality does it have?
[20:01] <Dr_Willis> loki_:  anything you want done with e-books it can do. ;)
[20:01] <mojtaba> Hi, Is there anyway to encrypt all the emails in the inbox? I know how can I send encrypted emails using public key with enigmail and Thunderbird.
[20:01] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/e-book-management-app-calibre-10.html
[20:01] <loki_> it's awesome, I know :D
[20:01] <w30> barbie__, maybe play like a scientist and eliminate possibilities by changing one variable at a time. Try different computer, then different operating system (live cd) etc.
[20:02] <deezed> w30: exactly
[20:02] <loki_> mojtaba: if your hdd is encrypted, downloaded emails will be encrypted locally.  assuming that you are downloading them all locally and they aren't stored on a server somewhere
[20:02] <barbie__> <Dr_Willis thank you, i do not know, havin an cisco wireless, all the computers on windows wave a great connection, not me, not me only
[20:02] <Dr_Willis> loki_:  it has a new feture to polish/clean up the formating and other stuff in some formats now a days
[20:02] <loki_> Dr_Willis: I think I used it for converting files in the past
[20:03] <Dr_Willis> barbie__:   if you think its a driver/kernel bug. then try 13.10 and see if the problem goes away. if so then you have sort of proven its a kernel/driver issue
[20:03] <mojtaba> loki_: I am using IMAP and I would like to have all of my emails encrypted on the server.
[20:03] <deezed> barbie__: plese barbie, can you try a live cd to check if it is a new problem of your computer or from you OS
[20:03] <barbie__> w30 all the windows ones are good, and i had it perfect beforee the last ubuntu
[20:04] <riqdiiz> where might I have gone wrong here ?  http://imgur.com/xzlg55G
[20:04] <Sach> Using a 32-bit laptop with ubuntu 12.04. Struggling to play .mts files because they are choppy in both vlc and media player.  Any solution?
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> Sach:  convert them to some other format?  i cant recall ever seeing a '.mts' file befor
[20:04] <bray90820> I can't seem to get a ubuntu usb live disk booted on my mac
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> i have reencoded videos int he past so they play better on my netbook.
[20:05] <barbie__> i had it perfect before that, and i even have upgraded to the lastest kernel, well, not me, but a friend of mine, so i am on the latest kernel, ubuntu 13.04, ad it sucks
[20:05] <riqdiiz> that is the output of this http://imgur.com/tfaZOTg
[20:05] <loki_> mts files are typically output from video cameras
[20:05] <Dr_Willis> barbie__:  earlier kernels can be selected from the GRUB menu - if you think an earlier kernel may work. Somthing else to try
[20:05] <riqdiiz> please help guys. :-(
[20:05] <loki_> bray90820: that is probably due to the BIOS
[20:06] <loki_> barbie__: that is subjective
[20:06] <bray90820> I downloaded "ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso"
[20:06] <loki_> Sach: what are the specs of your system?
[20:06] <loki_> Dr_Willis: think of MTS files like RAW files, but for video
[20:07] <loki_> bray90820: never heard of or seen that ISO
[20:07] <loki_> where did you DL from?
, already did so..nothing
 what do you mean?
[20:08] <bray90820> loki_: http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/
[20:08] <loki_> barbie__: saying the latest version sucks is subjective.  most likely the issue is not with the OS
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> barbie__:  sounds to me like you need to write up the problem. and what tests you have done, and post it to askubuntu.com  being as detailed as possible,
[20:08] <Sach> loki_: is there a command I can use to produce these details?
, of course it sucks for me only, sorry
[20:08] <Dr_Willis> barbie__:  i would test with 13.10 live cd and see if that also has the issue
[20:09] <loki_> barbie__: that's not true either
[20:09] <loki_> what is the exact problem?
[20:09] <loki_> bray90820: checking
[20:09] <loki_> Sach: you don't know how much RAM you have or what kind of CPU you have?
[20:09] <deezed> barbie__: why you cant just try the live cd?
 doing that since ubuntu 7, nothing helps..for me at least
[20:10] <Dr_Willis> barbie__:  doing what? You have had this issue now for over 7 years?
[20:10] <Sach> loki_:  Intel® Celeron(R) M CPU 520 @ 1.60GHz
 just read above
[20:10] <barbie__> Dr_Willis i meant that i tried id
[20:10] <loki_> Sach: that is most likely your problem.  MTS files are typically output by video cameras.  they are an uncompressed format and in this day in age are most likely HD video.  that said, your CPU is having a hard time keeping up
[20:11] <loki_> bray90820: this is pretty interesting.  give me some more time
[20:11] <w30> barbie__, if you own the other windows computers, try switching radios (wireless cards) with you windows box
[20:11] <Sach> loki_: yes, this seems to be true.  So the only solution is to either buy a new laptop or convert the files?  :-p
[20:11] <Dr_Willis> barbie__:  you need to be a bit more verbose in what you are saying.  I dont know what you have tried. You keep comming up with more and more info,,time to write up everything you have done.
[20:11] <loki_> Sach: most likely.
[20:11] <loki_> bray90820: did you read this "Choose this to take full advantage of computers based on the AMD64 or EM64T architecture (e.g., Athlon64, Opteron, EM64T Xeon, Core 2). If you have a non-64-bit processor made by AMD, or if you need full support for 32-bit code, use the Intel x86 images instead. This image is adjusted to work properly on Mac systems."?
[20:12] <loki_> what processor does your machine have?
[20:12] <Sach> loki_: can you suggest a format to convert to that will diminish video quality least?
[20:12] <bray90820> so for a xeon based mac i would use the normal version
[20:12] <bray90820> loki_:
[20:12] <loki_> Sach: that is hard.  it's not the format so much as it's the video quality
[20:13] <loki_> bray90820: so you are doing this on a mac pro?
[20:13] <bray90820> yes
[20:13] <loki_> For almost all PCs. This includes most machines with Intel/AMD/etc type processors and almost all computers that run Microsoft Windows, as well as newer Apple Macintosh systems based on Intel processors. Choose this if you are at all unsure.
[20:14] <loki_> I would use the standard image
[20:14] <loki_> see if that works bray90820
, no problem, i have an asus ux31e laptop, had the previous ubuntu, i mean the 12.04, had the same issues in the beginning but being honest i do not know how were they solved, so i have upgraded to the new 13th  ubuntu and i cannot work being further that 1 meter or 2 away from the router, can you somehow help me sir?
[20:15] <Dr_Willis> barbie__:  and you have determined your exact wireless chipset?
[20:15] <loki_> barbie__: do any other clients have issues with wireless?
[20:16] <barbie__> Dr_Willis  it is atheros, but if you can help me to determine it
[20:16] <loki_> barbie__: lspci -vnvn
[20:16] <barbie__> <loki no, my android phone gets it over 10 times further
[20:16] <bl4ckdu5t> I use my terminal as "myusername" or "root". How can I use it as www-data which is the owner I've set for my web pages in /var/www?
[20:17] <loki_> barbie__: have you tried a different wireless card?
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> bl4ckdu5t:  www-data is a special user that dosent really have a home, or should be used that way.
[20:17] <Bluesman> :)
[20:17] <barbie__> 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller [8086:0104] (rev 09)
[20:17] <barbie__> 	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:1427]
[20:17] <barbie__> 	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
[20:17] <barbie__> 	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort+ <MAbort+ >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
[20:17] <barbie__> 	Latency: 0
[20:17] <barbie__> 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[20:17] <FloodBot1> barbie__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:17] <barbie__> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0116] (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[20:17] <barbie__> 	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:1427]
[20:17] <daftykins> bl4ckdu5t: what are you *really* trying to do?
[20:17] <Dr_Willis> barbie__:  rember what we said earlier about PASTEBIN sites ? and how to use them?
[20:17] <loki_> barbie__: stop
[20:17] <loki_> use paste.ubuntu.com
[20:18] <daftykins> surprisingly guys, only one person needs to tell someone where they're going wrong ;)
[20:18] <Dr_Willis> !paste
[20:18] <Bluesman> hehe
[20:18] <loki_> daftykins: heh
[20:19] <bray90820> loki i will try the standard version tahnks
[20:19] <bl4ckdu5t> I discovered that most of my PHP files I moved as root from another drive to my /var/www are not working fine
[20:19] <loki_> bray90820: let me know how it goes
[20:19] <bray90820> ok
[20:19] <bl4ckdu5t> Now I'm trying to move them as www-data
[20:20] <bl4ckdu5t> since I had chown that folder for www-data
[20:20] <loki_> bl4ckdu5t: chown?
[20:22] <bl4ckdu5t> yea! when I initially set up my server, I tried to access pages on it but there was a permission restriction notice so I ran the command: chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www
[20:22] <bl4ckdu5t> and ever since, I've been able to view files I created on the server but not files I moved into it
[20:23] <zipper> How can I view groups? Is there a sudoers group?
[20:23] <barbie__> did it help?
[20:23] <zipper> Like there is a sudoers list?
[20:24] <Dr_Willis> via the group command or the /etc/group file
[20:26] <Extreminador> guys my grub has some options to somethings that does not exists atm
[20:27] <barbie__> thanks guys anyway, i appreciate your help, i will to find some answers anywhere else
[20:27] <Extreminador> it has 3 times "Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS (12.04) (on /dev/sda6)
[20:27] <Extreminador> how can i take that out ?
[20:27] <barbie__> thanks guys anyway, i appreciate your help, i will try to find some answers anywhere else
[20:28] <loki_> barbie__: what do you mean?
[20:28] <loki_> we are trying to help you
[20:28] <loki_> I asked you a question and I don't think you answered it
[20:28] <barbie__> <loki, sorry maybe i have missed it
[20:29] <loki_> have you tried another wireless card in your laptop?
[20:29] <loki_> or
[20:29] <barbie__> yep
[20:29] <loki_> are you dual booting?
[20:29] <barbie__> all of the connections are extremely weak
[20:29] <loki_> barbie__: are you dual booting?
[20:29] <loki_> yes or no
[20:30] <barbie__> yes, but didn't boot on windows for years
[20:30] <loki_> ok.  does it work in windows?
[20:30] <loki_> or no?
[20:30] <barbie__> it works
[20:30] <loki_> check now
[20:31] <loki_> you just said you haven't booted in to windows for years
[20:31] <barbie__> except this trial thingie
[20:31] <loki_> what do you mean?
[20:31] <barbie__> i hate booting on it cuz it take years to update :)
[20:32] <barbie__> but i did try to boot on windows and the card works
[20:32] <loki_> try again.
[20:32] <barbie__> yes i am a sinner, sorry
[20:32] <barbie__> ok, will do
[20:35] <Dr_Willis> gave him a dozen tests to try.. and still looks for quick fixs
[20:35] <loki_> yep
[20:35] <zipper> How can I view groups? Is there a sudoers group?
[20:35] <zipper> Like there is a sudoers list?
[20:36] <loki_> I am a sudoer :P
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  theres the /etc/group file  you can look at
[20:36]  * Dr_Willis is a sudont-er
[20:36] <Dr_Willis> sudo group and i think it was the admin group in earlier releases
[20:40] <pagios> hi ll
[20:40] <pagios> linuxmint 13 is equivalent to ubuntu precise?
[20:41] <pagios> #68-Ubuntu  is what?
[20:41] <barbie> loki
[20:41] <zipper> In another question I tried -s bash while creating a user and got the reply invalid shell 'bash'
[20:41] <barbie> workss like a charm
[20:41] <zipper> How do I specify that I wanr
[20:41] <zipper> How do I specify that I want to use the bash shell?
[20:43] <loki_> yes barbie
[20:43] <loki_> and you tried a different card?
[20:44] <barbie> no card, restarterd on windows, WORKS NICE
[20:44] <barbie> sorry for caps
[20:44] <loki_> try a different card on the linux side and let us know how that goes
[20:45] <barbie> i mean, it is like, buy another computer which worked before
[20:45] <barbie> it sucks
[20:45] <barbie> honestly
[20:45] <corrosiv0> claro
[20:45] <zipper> -s /bin/bash
[20:46] <Dr_Willis> or it could be the windows drivers are switching to a differnt wirless channel. or it may be a driver/kernel bug
[20:46] <loki_> barbie: i am not telling you to buy another computer
[20:47] <loki_> I am saying try another card
[20:49] <barbie> thank you loki, but i mean i have baught a quite expensive laptop from sweden which worked with the previous windows and you are suggestin me to buy another card? sorry.. but this is funny
[20:49] <Dr_Willis> you can replace wifi cards in laptops.
[20:49] <barbie> not windows but linux i mean 12th one
[20:50] <Dr_Willis> i would test with a 13.10 live dvd - and see if that still has the same issue.
[20:50] <Dr_Willis> it may  be a known bug/major bug with that laptop/wifi chipset
[20:50] <JustAguy> 22:50 -!- Irssi: #ubuntu: Total of 1646 nicks Wow this is huge
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> JustAguy:  not really.. its a slow day
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> JustAguy:  seen 3000+ in here befor
[20:51] <barbie> <Dr_Willis are you talking to me sir?
[20:51] <Extreminador> lool JustAguy only 10 (or sow) say something
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  ive mentioned several timnes to you -to try the 13.10 live dvd
[20:52] <barbie> <Dr_Willis what is the diffrerence if i am using the lateest kernel?
[20:52] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  you are NOT using the latest kernel that exists
[20:52] <JustAguy> Extreminador: welcome to IRC , not so many guys/girls talk in the channels, most are idlers
[20:52] <Dr_Willis> you are using the latest for your current release
[20:53] <barbie> gimme the code to check it please?  i might be wrong
[20:53] <OerHeks> barbie, check your Atheros on http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/Atheros some work just with wireless B not G/N
[20:54] <Extreminador> barbie this my sound stupid bu is the wireless card on ?
[20:54] <JustAguy> OerHeks: kom je paddenstoelen eten hihi
[20:54] <iananananan> is there a way to delete a file in a winrar archive?
[20:55] <Dr_Willis> iananananan:  rar tools exist on linux,  the winrar.exe works with wine last i used it
[20:55] <barbie> Extreminador how are you sir thinking i am talking with you on?
[20:55] <OerHeks> iananananan, no, not with the free rar tools, those only read
[20:55] <Dr_Willis> !rar
[20:55] <iananananan> whoops i mean an iso
[20:55] <Dr_Willis> the 7zip command line tool has a rar plugin also i think
[20:55] <Dr_Willis> iananananan:  an ISO? thats totally differnt. ;)
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> answer is No as far as i know.
[20:56] <JustAguy> does sudo apt-get dist-upgrade does his job well on ubuntu? Because I heard from other guys that it failed every time they attempted it
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> unles you remaster the iso - i think thats how some tools like kiso did it
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> !info kiso
[20:56] <iananananan> so i'd probably have to extract and remake the iso, then
[20:56] <Extreminador> barbie well you could be using rj45 and not wireless
[20:56] <Dr_Willis> JustAguy:  i use that command daily on 13.10 and have no issues
[20:57] <cali123456> ciao
[20:57] <JustAguy> k, then i'm going to upgrade my irssi/ftp/moviewatching server to 13.10 \o/
[20:57] <cali123456> !list
 <OerHeks> what should i choose next?
 indeed
[20:58] <barbie> i have seen this rj lots of times
[20:58] <Dr_Willis> JustAguy:  dist-upgrade does NOT NOT NOT - upgrade to the next release on ubuntu
[20:58] <Dr_Willis> JustAguy:  thats what  'do-release-upgrade' does
 what should i do?
[20:59] <Extreminador> barbie just wondering if it was on... i knolgement in linux is not allot... still new to this thing
[21:00] <cali123456> ciao
[21:00] <Dr_Willis> no lists here ;)
[21:00] <Extreminador> barbie have you trie to google for you card to see if someone else have the same issue ?
[21:01] <Extreminador> i am sure you are not the only one with that wireless card
[21:01] <cali123456> no lists here ;)
[21:01] <Extreminador> amd almost for sure that many of them are using linux
[21:01] <mojtaba> Hi, Is there anyway to encrypt all the emails in the inbox? I know how can I send encrypted emails using public key with enigmail and Thunderbird. I am using IMAP and I would like to have all of my emails encrypted on the server.
[21:01] <Extreminador> guys i would like to unit my 59GB space partition with the 142GB partition... is this possible ?
[21:01] <Extreminador> check this iamge please http://postimg.org/image/e5yxx03lx/
[21:01] <Extreminador> *image
[21:01] <Dr_Willis> Extreminador:  unit? You mean merge 2 partitions?
 sir it is on, talking to you now, googled it and some brave guys tried to help me and nothing, dissapointed
[21:02] <Extreminador> Dr_Willis yes... but in my case i have in middle a ntfs partition
[21:02] <JustAguy> Dr_Willis: i'm getting Checking for a new Ubuntu releaseNo new release found when doing sudo do-release-upgrade on ubuntu 12.04
[21:02] <Extreminador> sow i would have to move the dta beetween
[21:02] <MACscr> anyone know if the minimal iso will be able to be booted as a live cd?
[21:02] <Dr_Willis> Extreminador:  you  want to keep the data on both partions? You will have to move the data to one partion, then remove.resize the other
[21:02] <JustAguy> SubCool , stop running your irc as root!
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> Extreminador:  then resize/move the partions around.. backing up one and restoreing it would be easier
[21:03] <Extreminador> Dr_Willis if i am not mistaked for any reazon when i installed ubuntu he use the 59 GB... sow i think the grub is on that one
[21:03] <aztecwarrior> Does anyone know why my zpool iostat looks like this? http://pastebin.com/gpApGknB
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> Extreminador:  why do you need to merge them?
[21:03] <Dr_Willis> 59gb for / is a decent size for most people
[21:04] <Extreminador> Dr_Willis well i like to be organized and to have some control if i need more space
[21:04] <Extreminador> or if betther make the 142 gb partition the one that holds linux
[21:04] <Extreminador> not the 59gb one
[21:05] <barbie> Dr_Willis did i not answer to some of your questions? sorry
[21:05] <alfonsojon> Hi
[21:05] <alfonsojon> I'm using Ubuntu 13.10 and I decided to test out Mir.
[21:06] <Dr_Willis> alfonsojon:  13.10 support in #ubuntu+1
[21:06] <alfonsojon> oh alright
[21:06] <alfonsojon> Thanks.
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  my last suggstion was to try the 13.10 live dvd to see if the problem affects 13.10 - if it does - definatly file a bug report on it.
[21:07] <JustAguy> what is recommended, doing command to upgrade from 12.04 , or just reinstall the OS
[21:08] <JustAguy> *from 12.04 to 13.10
[21:08] <Dr_Willis> JustAguy:  13.10 is in testing.. may as well just upgrade
[21:08] <Dr_Willis> and test that part out. ;)
[21:08] <JustAguy> will do 13.04 for now :p
[21:08] <barbie> Dr_Willis thanks sir but.. again, tried it, the same thing..
[21:09] <flipper88_fl> When is the next LTS releaase due out?
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  you have downloaded a 13.10 live dvd? and allready tried it? that was fast
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> JustAguy:  you upgrade from LTS to LTS, or you do each non lts release. so 12.04 to 13.10 will take 2 seperate upgrades
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> it would be faster to do a clean install i imagine
[21:10] <JustAguy> is 13.04 LTS too?
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> !lts
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> 12.04 is LTS.
[21:10] <JustAguy> i know what lts is ;p
[21:10] <barbie> common, i did it, the same thing like it was before
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> 14.04 will be LTS also i belive
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> JustAguy:  but you dont seem to know what it means. ;)
[21:11] <barbie> should i restart or something?
[21:11] <JustAguy> yes, i could tell the same thing as ubottu said out of my head :p
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> every 2 years.
[21:11] <Extreminador> Dr_Willis i did never undrstood that LTS thing... i mean support on what ? on drivers/upgrades/updates on stuff ?
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> Extreminador:  a core set of packages for security updates  and major bug fixs mainly - i guess you can say
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> stuff a business/server would be interested in
[21:12] <JustAguy> I have a brilliant pc for movie watching / ftp backup server / irssi
[21:13] <Extreminador> sow does 3 and 5 years are not since the user install the distro but it will be since that version was created correct ?
[21:15] <barbie> ok, so, i have got the latest kernel and the latest drivers as far as i think, and i am suggested to try the new ubuntu , anyway, my kernel is more too further than the latest ubuntu is, but no matter what, i just want to be advised on how to deal with my wireless..and no use
[21:15] <barbie> screw it!
[21:15] <JustAguy> barbie: give me what wireless card you have
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  most of that last paragraph made little sence.
[21:15] <kostkon> Extreminador, and 2 years hardware support, meaning new or updated drivers, etc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[21:15] <JustAguy> do lspci for me barbie
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> You are using 13.04 and the latest kernel for it?
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> did you or did you NOT try the 13.10 live dvd barbie ?
[21:16] <Extreminador> thanks kostkon and Dr_Willis
[21:16] <barbie> thank you everyone, i am sick to give the lsi do not why again and again
[21:17] <SubCool> JustAguy, im not running as root.. lol
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  because new people come in and exit constantly
[21:17] <barbie> i see
[21:17] <barbie> just give a command please
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  you were asked to make a pastebin site with the  info on it earlier, and with all the stuff you have tried
[21:17] <JustAguy> SubCool: then throw away that root thing in your hostname, it's stupid :p
[21:17] <barbie> i did
[21:17] <SubCool> JustAguy, what made you think i was?
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> then repost the pastebin url if you have it
[21:18] <kostkon> barbie, the scrolling speed on this channel is crazy fast so yeah better repost your info
[21:18] <SubCool> hhmmm
[21:18] <SubCool> JustAguy, where did you get that information?
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> it was also suggested you make an askubuntu.com question/posting/search to see if others have had the same issue
[21:18] <Bray90820> loki_: using the offical ISO worked
[21:19] <loki_> Bray90820: nice!
[21:19] <darksouls> fuck arsholes
[21:19] <darksouls> you waste your tiny little arse on this
[21:19] <SubCool> JustAguy, ive never been a irc guru, its a chat ot me.
[21:19] <fonzon> I installed ubuntu from my usb, everything went fine, but how can i make my usb normal again?
[21:19] <kostkon> !ops | darksouls
[21:19] <JustAguy> SubCool: 23:02 -!- SubCool<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined
[21:20] <SubCool> JustAguy, oh yea..
[21:20] <Myrtti> darksouls: thanks for your opinion, did you have a support issue you need help with?
[21:20] <JustAguy> fonzon: click dash and then write disk utility and then select your usb and format it
[21:20] <barbie> give me link please
[21:20] <darksouls> the brain hole
[21:20] <intok> Why do none of the CD database lookups in ANY program work? using CDDB, FreeDB, Last.FM and Music Brainz in Asunder, Amarok, Banshee, Audex, Clementine, RipperX, RipOff, Picard etc. none of it gets anything at all...
[21:20] <loki_> Dr_Willis: not ubuntu related, but are you very familiar with OSX?
[21:20] <barbie> give me the link to post the thingss please
 , but it get this "Error deleting partition /dev/sdc1: Command-line `parted --script "/dev/sdc" "rm 1"' exited with non-zero exit status 1: Error: Partition doesn't exist.  (udisks-error-quark, 0)"
[21:21] <kostkon> intok, that's weird
[21:21] <kostkon> !paste | barbie
[21:21] <Dr_Willis> loki_:  i stay as far away from apple as i can
[21:22] <loki_> darn
[21:22] <JustAguy> well fonzon i'm not familia with that error :oo
[21:22] <Dr_Willis> loki_:  i give everyone at work the same advice also. ;)
[21:22] <loki_> haha was more a question related to VNC stuff, but I am picking up what you are putting down
[21:22] <barbie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6052875/
[21:22] <barbie> here it is
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> loki_:  cant say ive used vnc on OS-X.
[21:23] <loki_> k.  thanks anyway :)
 after trying to format i get thisError synchronizing after initial wipe: Timed out waiting for object (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[21:23] <fonzon> have i just lost my new usb? :/
[21:23] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  and your laptop was a?
[21:23] <barbie> and now... for the third time of just getting dissapeared, ubuntu channel wins!!!
[21:24] <barbie> asus ux31e
[21:24] <Dr_Willis> wonder if thats similer to a  ASUS K53E   http://askubuntu.com/questions/121487/atheros-ar9485-wireless-card-doesnt-work-in-an-asus-k53e
[21:24] <barbie> let me check
 nope
 it did work sometime before, but not now
[21:25] <intok> kostkon especially since the CD data on MusicBrainz site just fine
[21:26] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  huh? earlier you said you have had this short-range disconnect for  like the last 2 years...
 yep, and if you look above, i have sorted it somehow
[21:26] <kostkon> intok, run one of those apps in debug mode if possible, or at least start them from the terminal and see if youll get any error messages.
[21:27] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/224889/how-do-i-avoid-random-wireless-lan-disconnects    looks like it has some good troubleshooting info
 lets make a constructive work, you help me and i help you and the others? will it work?
[21:28] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  i have no idea whats going on with your card. If you really want to  get a lot of people to look at . Post the question at askubuntu.com and give the full info like the other example posts i have shown (the last one  has a lot of good info)
[21:29] <alnr> is there a command line version of update-manager. i want to upgrade 12.04 to next release or so
 ohhhh, i did it for lots of times
[21:29] <barbie> sorry to bother you
[21:29] <alnr> (on a server vps)
[21:29] <barbie> are you in ubuntu? if so, pleaseeeee help me
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> 'i did it for a lots of times'   --> is sort of a meaningless sentance to me.
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> alnr  try do-release-update
[21:30] <Dr_Willis> I research my wifi cards i buy - so i get ones that work out of the box with no hassles. I rarely have to right with wifi
[21:30] <barbie> sorry for that
[21:32] <barbie> just imagine, you buy a laptop which don't work on wireless, then it works on 12th, and the id doesn't neither on 13.4 nor later?
[21:32] <Dr_Willis> barbie:  http://askubuntu.com/search?q=ux31e     first hit - someone with an identical problem it seems
[21:33] <Dr_Willis> there have been major kernel changes in the differnt releases.    so its not unexpected theres regressions with some drivers/hardware
[21:33] <JustAguy> my wifi was a pain in the ass too @ laptop
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> I bought wifi that 'works out of the box'  ;)
[21:34] <alnr> when i do do-release-update on my 12.04 server it says no new release found. is that correct?
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> alnr:  because its LTS it will ONLY go to the next LTS
[21:34] <Dr_Willis> unless you tell it otherwise alnr
[21:34] <JustAguy> googled for 24 hours, found lots of the same guys like me but unanswered questions, then i found one page telling me what to do
[21:34] <sere> anyone know why synaptic would be asking for two passwords and only needs the first to work
[21:35] <alnr> Dr_Willis: can i force it to 12.10 or 13.04 or so?
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/107598/how-do-i-get-wireless-to-work-on-a-asus-zenbook-ux31e   has some good info also
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> alnr:  yes.
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> do-release-upgrade -some-option-i-cant-remeber
[21:35] <Dr_Willis> ;P
 sir, the comment i have found useful was written in  2010, lets make it clear, i work for a worlds leader in searches, i need a programmers/hackers help. would you be so kind to help me please?
[21:36] <daftykins> ^lmao
[21:37] <daftykins> sounds like a 419-er
[21:39] <SubCool> JustAguy, im not seeing how or why the IRC is showing me as root
[21:39] <JustAguy> you probably did sudo irssi when you started irssi
[21:39] <barbie> just screw it
[21:40] <kostkon> !patience | barbie
[21:40] <SubCool> JustAguy, i just use Xchat
[21:40] <JustAguy> lol
[21:41] <JustAguy> SubCool: do /set in your irc and look for any variables setted as root
[21:42] <Zmax> hello?
[21:42] <exidos> hi Zmax
[21:42] <JustAguy> hello Zmax
[21:42] <SubCool> JustAguy, yeah... username and real name
[21:43] <JustAguy> :p
[21:43] <alnr> i installed update-manager on a server, (dragging in few hundred M's of stuff i dont need since update-manager is gtk). is there some automated way to remove all those packages
[21:43] <SubCool> is there any real reason for that?
[21:43] <SubCool> perk?
[21:44] <Zmax> hey just checking things out. how's everyone?
[21:44] <JustAguy> good
[21:44] <nevi> Hi there! Im trying to exclude hidden directories when using mintbackup but they are not shown up, and I can't find any info about this issue. Anyone knos how to?
[21:44] <iceroot_> !mint | nevi
[21:45] <Jordan_U> SubCool: Just to completely confirm, please type "/exec -o whoami", which should post to the channel the user that xchat is running as.
[21:46] <barbie> http://forums.linuxmint.com/
[21:46] <slidercrank> hi there. I booted from Ubuntu Live CD (5.04). For some reason it doesn't see my hdd. (no /dev/[sh]d* devices. How can I force it to rescan the presence of HDDs. BIOS detected it successfully
[21:46] <SubCool> subcool
[21:46] <usr13> slidercrank: Get a newer version.
[21:46] <Dr_Willis> slidercrank:  was 5.04 a typo? i hope?
 5.04?
[21:47] <Jordan_U> SubCool: Great. It is odd that root somehow got in there in the first place then.
[21:47] <slidercrank> no, 5.04
[21:47] <usr13> slidercrank: Get a newer version.
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> slidercrank:  good luck.
[21:47] <slidercrank> yes, that old version. the only I have
[21:47] <Dr_Willis> 8+ yr old releases ;)
[21:47] <SubCool> Thanks JustAguy Jordan_U - i live in abnormalities
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> im suprised the disk is even readable being that old
 i have a computer in y basement(10 years old) maybe it will help
[21:49] <usr13> slidercrank: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/thank-you?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=lts
[21:49] <WebbyIT> there is an mail provider that respect the privacy?
[21:50] <Jordan_U> WebbyIT: That's offtopic for #ubuntu. Try #ubuntu-offtopic.
[21:50] <WebbyIT> thnx Jordan_U
 there is an mail provider that respect the privacy?            forget it, everyone, everywhere i reading you
[21:50] <Jordan_U> WebbyIT: You're welcome.
[21:51] <slidercrank> usr13, it's all problematic. My computer can't boot off usb flash drive.  can't boot off dvd. But cd-drive is okay. so I can't burn your image.
[21:51] <slidercrank> usr13, and I need to access my hdd by any means
[21:51] <usr13> slidercrank: Ok. So what are you trying to do?
[21:52] <usr13> slidercrank: Bring up a terminal window and type   sudo fdisk -l
[21:52] <slidercrank> usr13, not sure. to see how I can force the system to detect my hdd. Or maybe I'll try to find another image. I have a bag of CDs.
[21:52] <slidercrank> usr13, it doesn't see anything but the cd-drive I used to boot from
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> something thats not 10 yrs old. ;)
[21:53] <usr13> slidercrank: What type of HDD is it?
[21:53] <slidercrank> usr13, an ordinary 80GB HDD. Seagate
[21:53] <slidercrank> IDE
[21:53] <usr13> slidercrank: Bring up a terminal window and type   sudo fdisk -l
[21:53] <Jordan_U> slidercrank: Please list all of the resources that you have available. Is this a Desktop or laptop machine?
[21:53] <slidercrank> jordan, desktop.
 Thank you, http://forums.linuxmint.com/  helped a lot. after all It was eassy  :-D
[21:54] <SubCool> Ok- so here is something thats been buging me. - My Router is crappy and wont let me assing ip's. I've been trying to change my computers hostname so that i can refer to them as names instead of IP addresses. but- when i edit the hostname file, it doesnt work.
[21:54] <slidercrank> usr13, fdisk -l  returns nothing. I already tried that
[21:54] <Jordan_U> slidercrank: Do you have any other computers available?
[21:54] <slidercrank> there is only /dev/hdc (which is the cd-drive)
[21:54] <usr13> slidercrank: sudo fdisk -l
[21:54] <zykotick9> slidercrank: are you using "sudo fdisk -l"
[21:55] <usr13> slidercrank: What are you trying to do to it?  (What is your end goal?)
[21:55] <slidercrank> Jordan_U, yes, a netbook and another desktop which doesn't support IDE.
[21:55] <slidercrank> zykotick9, absolutely
[21:55] <Jordan_U> slidercrank: Can the other desktop burn CDs?
[21:56] <slidercrank> Jordan_U, no, I have only IDE CD and DVD drives. My desktop computer doesn't have an IDE controller
[21:56] <Shakaz> windows 8 screwed over on me. not booting so i'm looking to have some sort of OS.
[21:56] <Shakaz> Ubuntu 12.04 or Ubuntu 13.04?
[21:57] <usr13> slidercrank: Will it boot to a USB device?
 np, just trying to do my best
[21:58] <slidercrank> usr13, my new computer (which is without IDE) can boot from a usb device.. The computer I'm using to retrieve data from IDE discs can't
[21:58] <Jordan_U> Shakaz: Do you want the latest software, but upgrading about every 6 months, or do you want older software but only needing to upgrade about once every 2 years?
[21:58] <Shakaz> what does the latest software have that the older software doesn't?
[21:59] <barbie> let's make it fun, my usb ventilator is rotating 3500 per minute how many inches will it take?
[22:00] <SubCool> can not ssh into the computer using the hostname
[22:01] <Shakaz> Jordan_U*
[22:03] <barbie> if ventilator equals to 3500/60
[22:03] <barbie> then...
[22:03] <barbie> 1minute equals 60 secs
[22:03] <Jordan_U> barbie: This channel is for Ubuntu support only.
[22:04] <barbie> fatal error
[22:05] <equus> slidercrank,   sharing a bit of info     look at plop linux .you can create a CD  or boot floppy that will boot distros on a USB     personaly I have only had luck with it booting USBs created with unetbootin but others may work
[22:07] <barbie> Jordan_U what should i do if lo i love ubuntu and for months i cannot any idea for my issue?
[22:08] <barbie> Jordan_U what should i do if lo i love ubuntu and for months i cannot get any idea for my issue?
[22:10] <Jordan_U> barbie: Please join #ubuntu-ops.
[22:12] <slidercrank> hurray. I've found a relatively new (only one year old) live CDs of Gentoo and Debian.
[22:12] <slidercrank> -a
[22:12] <tacorwin_> Hello everyone. I would like to know the License status of http://www.ubuntu.com/ . For example, I would like to use the layout of the website for my own (http:wineonubuntu.cu.cc/)
[22:13] <NeoGeo64> Hey everyone.  I have a quick question...
[22:13] <NeonSpeed> Anybody know how I can fix my cursor in 13.04, it is the default cursor on the desktop but in the programs it is the DMZ-black cursor?
[22:14] <NeonSpeed> I want the DMZ-black cursor for everything
[22:14] <NeoGeo64> How do I activate my copy of Ubuntu 13.04 and make sure that its genuine?
[22:14] <NeonSpeed> NeoGeo64, You don't have to activate Ubuntu or any Linux distro
[22:14] <kostkon> NeoGeo64, ubuntu is license free so you don't need to do anything about that
[22:15] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, there are linux based OSes that cost money and/or come under some license
[22:16] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, True I meant distros like Ubuntu Fedora.... The avg daily used distro, I should have been more specific :/
[22:16] <tacorwin_> Can i freely use the ubuntu.com layout (html/css)?
[22:17] <NeoGeo64> kostkon: I dl'd 13.04 off TPB and I thought I would need a crack to activate it.  I've never used Linux before.  This works great... how can it be free?
[22:19] <kostkon> NeoGeo64, http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/our-philosophy
[22:19] <dougiel> NeoGeo64, it comes with a money back guarantee
[22:25] <NeonSpeed> They took a lot out of Compiz.
[22:26] <ab3e> Hi, is there a way to force applications to follow symlinks ?
[22:26] <Shakaz> what's the different apart from support with ubuntu 12.04 and 13.04?
[22:27] <Jordan_U> ab3e: What problem are you actually having? What is your end goal?
[22:28] <ab3e> Jordan_U: I want to have symlinks following for a application
[22:28] <Jordan_U> Shakaz: Ubuntu 12.04 has software that was relatively new in April of 2012, Ubuntu 13.04 has software that was relatively new in April of 2013
[22:28] <Jordan_U> ab3e: That's not an end goal.
[22:28] <Shakaz> what type of software is this?
[22:28] <ab3e> bittorent sync
[22:29] <ab3e> wouldn't this be a thing that the filesystem manages ?
[22:30] <Jordan_U> ab3e: It really depends on the context. *Please* state your end goal.
[22:30] <Shakaz> Jordan_U, sorry to bother you again, but what type of 'new software'
[22:31] <Jordan_U> Shakaz: Mostly the same software for each release of Ubuntu, but newer versions of that software.
[22:31] <ab3e> Jordan_U: I want to have the freedom to put my folders everywhere I want to and just put the symlinks to the share folder that btSync manages
[22:31] <kostkon> Shakaz, the software in the repositories, around ~40k pieces of softwrae
[22:31] <MonkeyDust> Shakaz  like in: bugs fixed, more options added etc
[22:32] <Jordan_U> ab3e: That should work for most cases. Are you running into a case where it doesn't?
[22:33] <ab3e> Jordan_U: yes, btSync just simply does not follow the symlinks because they dont support it at this point
[22:33] <mojtaba> Hi, Is there anyway to encrypt all the emails in the inbox? I know how can I send encrypted emails using public key with enigmail and Thunderbird. I am using IMAP and I would like to have all of my emails encrypted on the server.
[22:33] <Shakaz> Jordan_U i've never used linux but couldn't you just do 'sudo apt-get update' and it would update all the software in the packages?
[22:33] <Shakaz> that you've installed
[22:34] <ab3e> Shakaz: it just updates the repos list ... you ned upgrade
[22:34] <Shakaz> therefore updating all the software in the respositores?
[22:34] <Dr_Willis> Shakaz:  updateing the system updates  them to whatever is in the repos.
[22:34] <Jordan_U> Shakaz: "sudo apt-get update" will update all pacakges to the latest version available in the repositories for the specific release of Ubunut you're using.
[22:34] <Shakaz> oh ok. so i may as well just get 13.04
[22:34]  * Shakaz goes to torrent it
[22:34] <Shakaz> legitly*
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> Shakaz:  13.10 is due out soon. ;)
[22:35] <spacecase> http://askubuntu.com/questions/340194/how-to-convert-a-bios-boot-to-efi-boot-13-04-on-macbook-8-2
[22:35] <Shakaz> ogreat
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> note the  version is the year/month of release
[22:35] <kostkon> Shakaz, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[22:35] <high_fiver> what can we expect from 13.10 over 13.04
[22:35] <Shakaz> Dr_Willis can you upgrade manually inside ubuntu or do you hve to reinstall the iso and lose all of your data?
[22:36] <spacecase> high_fiver, newer kernel, newer packages, Mir (I believe)
[22:36] <Shakaz> or should i just create a /home partition following a tutorial when ubuntu is installed
[22:36] <Dr_Willis> Shakaz:  you can upgrade to the next RELEASE - yes
[22:37] <Shakaz> i'll probably end up dual booting with windows 7 as well.
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> a  /home/ partion is a very good idea
[22:37] <MonkeyDust> Shakaz  and backups
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> always backup. :)
[22:37] <Shakaz> i know i asked this yesterday but
[22:38] <Shakaz> if i have a 1TB HDD, and dual boot with windows 7, how much disk space should I leave for linux partition and windows 7 partition.
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> Shakaz:  depends on the work you are doing.
[22:38] <Shakaz> i'd probably use a bit of linux but mainly windows.
[22:38] <ab3e> so does someone know how I trick btSync into beliving that my symlinks are real folders ?
[22:38] <Dr_Willis> 30gb for linux can work. if you dont need a lot of space
[22:38] <Shakaz> hmm.
[22:41] <mojtaba> Hi, Is there anyway to encrypt all the emails in the inbox? I know how can I send encrypted emails using public key with enigmail and Thunderbird. I am using IMAP and I would like to have all of my emails encrypted on the server.
[22:41] <JustAguy> ^
[22:41] <JustAguy> so leet :D
[22:42] <ab3e> mojtaba: I don't think so as long as you dont atually own the mailserver
[22:42] <NeonSpeed> Shakaz, I use 100gb for Ubuntu and that is plenty for me
[22:43] <JustAguy> lets be prepared for first schoolday tommorow, "What are you doing, how to get that layout on my windows 7" = Their reaction when they see ubuntu
[22:43] <Shakaz> how much do you use for your os NeonSpeed? (do you have a separate home partition)
[22:43] <mojtaba> ab3e: Cann't I encrypt them locally and because I am using IMAP, it would synchronize on the server?
[22:43] <Shakaz> JustAguy, lol. I remind going on a trip and one of the people had ubuntu loaded, i knew what it was but everyone looked at his computer and was like woah what is that.
[22:44]  * sepero uses 20GB partition for OS
[22:44] <JustAguy> xd
[22:45]  * sepero uses 20GB partition for OS, and it's only 42% filled
[22:45] <NeonSpeed> Shakaz, I use about 250gb for Windows, 100gb for Ubuntu and then I have another 100gb partition for backup (music, movies, and pics and stuff)
[22:45] <ab3e> mojtaba: as far as I know imap hase just one direction it gives you the data but you can't alter the content thats on the server
[22:45] <Shakaz> so would a 10GB OS Partition be enough?
[22:46] <mojtaba> ab3e: When I put something in draft locally or I send email, it syncs it on the server.
[22:46] <Shakaz> and then maybe a 140-190GB for ubuntu (or is that too much)?
[22:46] <sepero> Shakaz: If you're good at keeping old packages cleaned out, yes. Otherwise go with 15-20
[22:46] <Shakaz> /home* not ubuntu
[22:47] <Shakaz> ok 20GB for OS decided.
[22:47] <Shakaz> then maybe 150 for /home
[22:47] <Shakaz> and the rest for windows.
[22:47] <Shakaz> *1TB HDD
[22:47] <sepero> sounds good
[22:47] <NeonSpeed> I can figure out why my web downloads are extremely slow on 13.04
[22:48] <joufflu> what's the deal with virtual filesystem ? why not just use a filesystem ?
[22:48] <NeonSpeed> can't*
[22:48] <Shakaz> now i need to figure out how to sort this out on a windows 8 machine and carry this out?
[22:48] <MonkeyDust> Shakaz  first install windows, then ubuntu, or you will have to repair grub and get frustrated
[22:48] <Shakaz> windows 8 is preinstalled but i'm looking to boot windows 7 on it
[22:48] <Shakaz> and uninstall windows 8 completely
[22:48] <NeonSpeed> I can't get downloads to break 400kb/s and I have a 60mbps speed :/
[22:49] <Shakaz> from speedtest.net?
[22:50] <NeonSpeed> My speed tests show 70mbps but my downloads never break 400kb/s
[22:51] <ab3e> mojtaba: I kinda don't really understand what you want to achive with his form the first point, is on theire servers in clear text ... you betta belive me if I say that they have plenty copys already
[22:54] <Extreminador> guys to install mysql i net to install the "mysql-common" right ?
[22:54] <Extreminador> because the search gives me about 150 results lool
[22:54] <daftykins> Extreminador: the mysql-server package should pull in what's relevant
[22:54] <Extreminador> daftykins thanks
[22:55] <daftykins> np
[22:55] <mojtaba> ab3e: The thing is that, for using encryption I must have everybody's public key. But because I do not have that, and I do not want to store my emails in plain text on server, I am looking for a way to encrypt all of them.
[22:57] <ab3e> mojtaba: you allready lost at the time they get your mail unencrypted. You don't get more security with a post encryption.
[22:59] <ab3e> every non point to point encryption is useless
[22:59] <mojtaba> ab3e: What should I do after this? suppose I would like to send you an encrypted email, and I do not have your public key, or you do not even know what is that, what should I do then?
[23:00] <ab3e> mojtaba: thets the problem of encryption and why almost no one cares to do it. You need to have the keys! If you dont just dont cause more airpoulution for useless encryption.
[23:01] <joshua__> can i get some help please.
[23:02] <daftykins> just ask
[23:02] <Shakaz> quick question
[23:02] <Shakaz> if say I dont like linux ubuntu for whatever reason
[23:03] <Shakaz> wrong channel.
[23:05] <joshua__> ok ive been trying to download and install the latest version of "seahorse passwords manager" for awhile now and im missing dependencies so i go find them download them then it turns out those have to be at a certain update so im stuck in this long loop and finding dependencies and I was wondering if there is some sort of ppa or repo that im missing that could make this much easier, im fairly new to linux btw
[23:05] <Shakaz> actually it may be better here, what is a 'linux bootloader' when dualbooting?
[23:05] <joshua__> alot of the dependencies that i search for in the software centre are outdated so i cannot use them
[23:06] <Shakaz> 'This will remove Linux's bootloader and replace it with Windows'.'
[23:06] <daftykins> joshua__: you can't just 'apt-get install seahorse' ?
[23:06] <joshua__> daftykins: i can but that will install an older version of seahorse and i need the latest version for things to work smoothly
[23:07] <slidercrank> phew. I got my info restored :)
[23:07] <daftykins> joshua__: i see, does installing it that way not bring in the right dependancies so that your downloaded one works?
[23:08] <slidercrank> wow. I've found turbo linux 6 on my hdd:)
[23:09] <joshua__> daftykins:i tried but it still says im missing dependencies or they are not up to date like this for example one says "libgcr-3-1 (<=3.4.0)
[23:09] <JustAguy> Sudo apt-get install justaguyWantsTostayup Unable to locate package Reason: Go to sleep!
[23:09] <JustAguy> Goodnight all!
[23:09] <Guest89737> how did you do that
[23:09] <ab3e> joshua__: than you need to find a trustwothy ppa for seahorse or you build it and search for the dependencys / dependencys ppas
[23:09] <joshua__> daftykins: it specifically says dependency is not satisfiable:
[23:09] <JustAguy> Guest89737: i wrote it down manually :)
[23:10] <JustAguy> but goodnight !
[23:10] <Guest89737> good man
[23:10] <JustAguy> lets don't wake up JustaMom
[23:10] <JustAguy> otherwise we have mad mom
[23:11] <joshua__> one person suggested using raring's sources.list but im not sure how to do that
[23:12] <NeonSpeed> Why won't software center download google chrome?
[23:12] <JustAguy> NeonSpeed you need to search for chromium
[23:12] <JustAguy> that's the name for google chrome @ linux
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> google chrome is not in the default repos
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> google-chrome has its own ppa/repos you can enable if you want it
[23:13] <JustAguy> but i'm going to sleep, Dr_Willis have fun helping these people :D
[23:13] <joshua__> cause right now im stuck searching through the internet to find all the dependencies (some are not even the version i needed) and then trying to install those, so if there was a way to have all the dependencies put into the software centre that would be great
[23:13] <roby25> ciao
[23:13] <NeonSpeed> I have chromium but I wanted to see if my downloads are slow in chrome too cause my downloads are waaaay to slow
[23:13] <daftykins> joshua__: which ubuntu are you using to do this?
[23:14] <ab3e> joshua__: alternativly you maybe just could use a different key manager if you dont find a solution for your problem
[23:14] <joshua__> daftykins: lol welllll im not using ubuntu but im using elementary os luna and im pretty sure its based off of ubuntu so I didnt think it would be that hard to find dependencies
[23:14] <daftykins> joshua__: can't help you then sorry
[23:14] <NeonSpeed> never mind it was google server that was slow, just downloaded a test file and it was good, but my software center is still extremely slow :/
[23:15] <ab3e> joshua__: its not about the problem finding it its about the point that you want to have the newest version
[23:16] <joshua__> ab3e: correct
[23:17] <joshua__> daftykins: can you send me the basic ppa's and repositorys that ubuntu uses though because maybe im missing some that have the dependencies branched off in them
[23:18] <zq> halp
[23:20] <stepp_> hi
[23:20] <zq> $ sudo swapon -v /dev/sda13
[23:20] <zq> swapon on /dev/sda13
[23:20] <zq> swapon: /dev/sda13: found swap signature: version 1, page-size 4, same byte order
[23:20] <zq> swapon: /dev/sda13: pagesize=4096, swapsize=3221225472, devsize=3221225472
[23:20] <zq> swapon: /dev/sda13: swapon failed: Invalid argument
[23:20] <zq> y u no swap ubuntoo????
[23:20] <daftykins> joshua__: you can't just mix and match like that
[23:20] <FloodBot1> zq: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:21] <joshua__> ya i kinda figured that after i read it over lol sorry and thanks for trying
[23:21] <Rallias> So... I'm low on disk space and I'm at a loss of what I can do about it...
[23:22] <daftykins> Rallias: what's filling up?
[23:22] <daftykins> Rallias: can't you just delete something? :)
[23:22] <Rallias> daftykins, I currently have 95800 unused 1K-blocks
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> did you count them all? ;)
[23:22] <Rallias> Dr_Willis, No, but df -a did
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> try a df -h :) makes it more readable
[23:23] <Rallias> I have 94M/1.9G free.
[23:24] <NeonSpeed> Will I notice a performance difference if I uninstall programs I don't use?
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> NeonSpeed:  if they are not running.. not really
[23:24] <Rallias> NeonSpeed, If they're running yes, otherwise no.
[23:24] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, chances are you will not
[23:25] <NeonSpeed> I feel like I'm not getting the performance I should be. What are some system programs that would be running that I could go without?
[23:25] <Rallias> NeonSpeed, Desktop or server?
[23:25] <NeonSpeed> Rallias, Desktop
[23:25] <Rallias> Ubuntu variant?
[23:26] <NeonSpeed> I know I have plenty of ram and cpu but still seems to run slightly slow.
[23:26] <NeonSpeed> Rallias, 13.04
[23:26] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, probably a graphics card driver prob then
[23:26] <Rallias> NeonSpeed, Go into top, get me the %WA number
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> Best Speed boost ive seen... get a SSD  ;)
[23:26] <daftykins> Rallias: that's not a big drive :D are you trying to upgrade a VM or something?
[23:26] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, that causes your card to underperform
[23:26] <daftykins> Rallias: i take it you've cleared your apt cache?
[23:26] <Rallias> daftykins, It's the xen host node, I'm just trying to get it to quit complaining.
[23:27] <Rallias> And yes, I did apt-get clean.
[23:27] <NeonSpeed> Rallias, not sure how to do that or what you're talking about?
[23:27] <Rallias> NeonSpeed, Open a terminal, run "top"
[23:27] <Oliver_> Hi
[23:27] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, So it might be cause I'm running integrated video on a laptop?
[23:27] <Rallias> There's a few numbers near the top near %WA, %ID, etc
[23:27] <Oliver_> Can somebody help a noob?
[23:28] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, which one
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> !manual | Oliver_
[23:28] <Rallias> Actually, on ubunutu there doesn't seem to be a %
[23:28] <Oliver_> Dr_Willis: Thanks
[23:28] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, I'll have to look up exactly what card it is.
[23:28] <daftykins> Rallias: you could try tune2fs to remove root's reserved space on the file system
[23:28] <NeonSpeed> Rallias, which number do you need?
[23:28] <Oliver_> I'm on 12.043 though Dr_Willis
[23:28] <Rallias> NeonSpeed, The one next to wa
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> Oliver_:  dosent really matter much.   they also may have older copies of that manual at teh site
[23:29] <Oliver_> ok
[23:29] <Oliver_> thanks
[23:29] <NeonSpeed> Rallias, I don't see WA anywhere?
[23:29] <Oliver_> Just need to connect to wifi
[23:29] <Rallias> NeonSpeed, Third line, begins with %Cpu(s), it's in the middle.
[23:30] <NeonSpeed> Rallias, I see the CPU% one but nothing with WA%
[23:30] <Rallias> It's lowercase, no % on ubuntu
[23:31] <Rallias> Actually, give me that whole line.
[23:32] <NeonSpeed> I have PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM  TIME+ COMMAND
[23:33] <Rallias> NeonSpeed, 4 lines up
[23:33] <NeonSpeed> Rallias, Oooooh ok sorry I see it now, the number is going from 0.0 to 0.5
[23:34] <Rallias> NeonSpeed, Mind giving me the whole line?
[23:36] <NeonSpeed> Rallias, the numbers are kinda jumping around, us is around 2.2-3.2, sy is 0.8-1.2, ni 0, id 96.7, wa 0.3, hi 0.0, si 0.2, st 0.o
[23:36] <marklar> hello guys! I've been using Ubuntu for a while, but I've never played with non-intel graphics. I was wondering if anyone knew of a good card to buy for use with open source drivers
[23:36] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, Video is ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250 Graphics
[23:37] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, ati right
[23:38] <Rallias> Honestly, it looks like something kernelside is causing you grief.
[23:38] <NeonSpeed> kostkon,  Yeah its ATI
[23:38] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, which driver are you using? did you get an option to install the one from ati?
[23:38] <kostkon> !ati
[23:38] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, No I just used the one that installed with the OS
[23:40] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, probably the open source one. You could go into your system settings, click on software sources and then check in the last tab
[23:41] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, Additional Drivers has nothing in the list
[23:42] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, right ok
[23:42] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, Is there a driver I should download from the web?
[23:44] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, probably. it depends on the model. but have a look at this here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[23:44] <OerHeks> ATI 2xxx 3xxx 4xxx are no longer supported by the closed driver, opensource driver should work.
[23:45] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, lets see which one you have:  in the terminal give:  lspci | grep VGA
[23:45] <Rallias> He's already declared he has a 4250
[23:45] <gabriel44> help me, no puedo instalar aegisub en ubuntu 12.04
[23:45] <kostkon> Rallias, oh
[23:45] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, One step ahead of you. 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4225/4250]
[23:46] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, not much you could do then
[23:46] <Rallias> gabriel44, #Ubuntu-es
[23:46] <kostkon> !es | gabriel44
[23:46] <Oliver_> Can somebody help me connect to wifi?
[23:46] <Oliver_> My network isn't showing up
[23:46] <Oliver_> 12.043
[23:46] <gabriel44> Gracias
[23:46] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, It's not running real slow but I feel like the OS should be quicker with the ram and cpu I have
[23:46] <Oliver_> Can somebody help me connect to wifi?
[23:46] <Oliver_> My network isn't showing up
[23:47] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, actually, could you describe the type of slowness you are getting. i mean, just give an example
[23:47] <daftykins> Oliver_: what model is your wireless?
[23:47] <joshua__> can someone tell me what this error means and what i can do to workaround it http://pastebin.com/JQw1d8ev
[23:48] <Oliver_> daftykins: Not sure.  It's broadcom though
[23:48] <Rallias> NeonSpeed, Honestly, if you have a laptop with a graphics card AMD no longer supports, I think the CPU might not have the oomph you think it does.
[23:48] <OerHeks> joshua__, elementry os has its own issues.
[23:48] <daftykins> Oliver_: has the (laptop?) in question got a working wired connection?
[23:48] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, Browser takes a bit to open up and a couple other programs, but animations and everything are smooth and clear just some programs take some time to fully startup
[23:48] <Oliver_> It hasn't been connected to wired ethernet in over 6 months, so no
[23:49] <Oliver_> I don't have an outlet for ethernet in my room daftykins
[23:49] <energizer1> I have a beginner software sources question. How do i fix this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6053242/
[23:49] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, maybe your hdd is just too damn slow :P
[23:49] <daftykins> joshua__: you're not using ubuntu. therefore you cannot get any support in here. i have already made this clear
[23:49] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, what are the specs, cpu? ram?
[23:49] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, Could be it's only 5400
[23:49] <daftykins> Oliver_: you can't take it to the router and cable it in temporarily?
[23:50] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, it could be 4800 or i dont know what else
[23:50] <Oliver_> I could daftykins
[23:50] <Johnny_Linux> yep, 5400 is kinda slow, especially ig its non sata
[23:50] <Rallias> NeonSpeed, What proc and ram?
[23:50] <Oliver_> daftykins: Should I do that?
[23:51] <NeonSpeed> Rallias, kostkon, CPU is AMD Athlon 2.20 dual-core and ram has been upgraded to max 8gb
[23:51] <OerHeks> energizer1, the ppa is called unityshell-rotated and has no raring packages >> https://launchpad.net/~paullo612/+archive/unityshell-rotated
[23:51] <daftykins> Oliver_: yeah and fully update and upgrade, then use paste.ubuntu.com to show me the output of "lspci" and "lsusb" on that computer
[23:51] <Rallias> NeonSpeed, What model?
[23:51] <NeonSpeed> also running 64bit 13.04
[23:51] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, that's more than enough for ubuntu
[23:51] <Johnny_Linux> yeah
[23:51] <Oliver_> daftykins: OK.  Give me a few minutes.
[23:52] <NeonSpeed> Rallias, What model what? CPU, or laptop?
[23:52] <Rallias> CPU
[23:52] <Johnny_Linux> he said it was a 2.2 athlon
[23:52] <NeonSpeed> 2.20GHz VISION Technology from AMD with AMD Athlon II Dual-Core Processor for Notebook PCs P340
[23:52] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, So you think its cause of the slow hard drive?
[23:53] <Rallias> Eh, that's not too old.
[23:53] <energizer1> Thanks OerHeks.
[23:53] <Rallias> Johnny_Linux, Athlon is a line they've been using for AGES.
[23:54] <energizer1> Beginner question 2: What is this problem and how do i fix it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6053258/
[23:54] <Johnny_Linux> i have a couple of them, they do run alittle on the slow side, due to the 5400 speed, other than that, they are fine
[23:55] <NeonSpeed> Johnny_Linux, Yeah the original drive died so I bought a 500gb 5400 which the original was a 5400 too
[23:55] <Johnny_Linux> youll be fine
[23:55] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, what's the amount of swap youve got and how much is in use right now?
[23:55] <Rallias> Honestly, it's 2010 era technology. It's not horrible, but it's oldish compared to modern stuff.
[23:55] <NeonSpeed> It's not terribly slow but I just thought it would be faster
[23:56] <Oliver__> daftykins: Ok, it's Oliver_  I'm on wired connection.  Now what?
[23:56] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, give:  free -m     also check in "top"
[23:56] <Rallias> NeonSpeed, I once thought a Celeron 1.3 GHz was fast... things age and feel slower over time.
[23:56] <NeonSpeed> Rallias, I'm not sure I just selected install along side Windows 7
[23:57] <Oliver__> daftykins: Ok, it's Oliver_  I'm on wired connection.  Now what?
[23:57] <daftykins> Oliver__: do what i said before :D
[23:57] <Oliver__> daftykins: Which was?
[23:57] <daftykins> Oliver__: run "lspci" and "lsusb" in a terminal, then use paste.ubuntu.com to share the output with me.
[23:57] <Rallias> Unfortunately, I've been unable to use that machine since 11.04 came out.
[23:58] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, How do I do that top free -m?
[23:58] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, with the amount of ram youve got, you could use preload. although, it could make matters worse:  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/speed-up-your-ubuntu-12-04-with-preload.html
[23:59] <Oliver__> daftykins: How do I copy it?
[23:59] <daftykins> select it - done
[23:59] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, in the terminal, give:  free -m  then check in top, by giving:  top
[23:59] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, what should I look for in top now?