[12:14] <Cyco> i just dont know what else it is, i put some slack on w/ kde and 2.6 kernel and the sucker flies
[12:14] <redcard> neandrake: No problem.  I ran into a similar situation where the CD burned badly..
[12:14] <bxnp> same applies to running openoffice on windows on linux, its loads faster on windows and is more responsive asswell even some sun guy gave an explenation for that behaviour
[12:14] <Cyco> but as far as managing system ubuntu is much easier
[12:14] <redcard> Cyco: There's a lot more cruft in Ubuntu that makes it slower.
[12:14] <neandrake> redcard, any suggestions for properties for burning?
[12:14] <bxnp> yes it ise Cyco
[12:14] <Cyco> define:cruft
[12:14] <redcard> neandrake: None, really.
[12:14] <Hasrat_USA> i'm on kubuntu gnome sucks :P
[12:14] <redcard> Cyco: Just extra stuff and the like.
[12:14] <Cyco> haha ok
[12:15] <redcard> Cyco: Lots of things loaded as opposed to slack or fedora core.
[12:15] <Cyco> right, maintaining slack is more time than i have
[12:15] <Hasrat_USA> in that case linux might just not be for u bxnp
[12:15] <bxnp> but if you want a realy fast distro the fasted in the world try yoper linux
[12:15] <Cyco> package management for yoper?
[12:16] <bxnp> they have there own package system
[12:16] <redcard> Heh.  I used to run LFS.
[12:16] <Cyco> interesting will look into, just can't stand rpm
[12:16] <Cyco> NICE
[12:16] <Cyco> new book just realeased a few weeks back
[12:16] <redcard> But.. to be honest.. it's a waste of time nowadays.  I want something that works.
[12:16] <bxnp> but still to be honest i dont care about package system's as soon as my system is what i want i dont install new software or do everyday an update only sec fixes
[12:17] <redcard> I moved from a linux "geek" who messes with the system often to someone who just wants something that works.
[12:17] <Cyco> i moved from slack junky to hp admin by day and dont want to fiddle that much at night
[12:18] <Cyco> love kubuntu
[12:18] <Cyco> speed is only thing biting my ass right now, but tolerable because everything is working great, guitar setup etc...
[12:18] <bxnp> i know
[12:18] <jarhead-x> Hey all, I still have something wrong with my repos I am getting GPG errors
[12:18] <Cyco> jarhead you have to import the keys to the repot
[12:19] <tanlaan> hello everyone
[12:19] <kutu> alguien habla espaol????
[12:19] <bxnp> for example i had a dual boot setup on a friends system and openoffice and firefox load considerble slower on linux then on windows
[12:19] <jarhead-x> manually?
[12:19] <tanlaan> I need to talk to someone about remote login
[12:19] <redcard> Guitar setup, Cyco?
[12:19] <Cyco> ya guitar rig by native instruments, wine, jackd
[12:19] <bxnp> it seems that most developers have high end system's
[12:19] <kutu> ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAOL????????????????
[12:20] <Cyco> ya ....i am building nice system end of month
[12:20] <bxnp> tanlaan: try nxclient
[12:20] <bxnp> take a look at ww.nomachine.com
[12:20] <bxnp> www.nomachine.com
[12:20] <redcard> Cyco: Ahh :)
[12:20] <redcard> I'm wanting to learn guitar .. heh
[12:20] <tanlaan> bxnp: no i just need to know some stuff on it, like I want to have my desktop downstairs always on
[12:21] <tanlaan> bxnp: and i want to access it from upstairs on my laptop
[12:21] <Cyco> vnc,ssh,pick your poison
[12:21] <Cyco> xdmcp if you like also
[12:21] <Cyco> bxnp how long you been using kubuntu
[12:21] <tanlaan> bxnp: so i would be using my laptop as a terminal. Now this would allow me to run server applications on my desktop 24/7 and I could access files from it whenever from my laptop
[12:22] <redcard> I like the whole "Synchronizing" to the desktop thing , not accessing it
[12:22] <bxnp> well nomachine works good i must say to acces  your remote desktop
[12:22] <tanlaan> hmm
[12:22] <bxnp> with the link i gave you you can access whatever pc yuou have from wherever you are in the world
[12:23] <bxnp> dunno Cyco
[12:23] <tanlaan> hmm brb
[12:23] <Cyco> you real familiar with edgy and upstart?
[12:23] <bxnp> are you noticing some responsive difference Cyco
[12:23] <bxnp> i run edgy
[12:23] <Cyco> ya i actually am a bit
[12:23] <jarhead-x> hey cyco...how do I easily import the gpg key for http://security.ubuntu.com for edgy-security
[12:24] <redcard> Didn't upstart get deferred?
[12:24] <Cyco> http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-complete-sourceslist-repository-list-file.html
[12:24] <Cyco> check that
[12:24] <philip2> hi i read and followed ntfs-3g guide, but i created and mount a directory how do i get rid of it?
[12:24] <jarhead-x> thanks
[12:25] <bxnp> umount is your friend philip2
[12:25] <philip2> wait ill try
[12:25] <bxnp> umount your mounted thingy
[12:25] <Cyco> jarhead check this too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2074576
[12:25] <tabr> Help me start mysql Server. pls..    * Starting MySQL database server mysqld...fail!
[12:25] <bxnp> go to the log files of mysql and see what it says tabr
[12:26] <Cyco> bxnp -redcard thanks - ttyl
[12:26] <redcard> No problem :)
[12:26] <bxnp> yo later Cyco
[12:26] <Cyco> i will look at yoper
[12:26] <Cyco> cya
[12:26] <david___> how can i stop my usb wifi from mounting as a cd?
[12:27] <bxnp> philip2: is it working
[12:27] <philip2> ok i was able to umount it but the folder/directory is still in /media how do i remove it?
[12:28] <bxnp> just remove the unmounted directory
[12:28] <bxnp> rm -rf whatever directory philip2
[12:28] <philip2> iu get access denied
[12:28] <philip2> ok il try
[12:28] <bxnp> sudo -s
[12:29] <bxnp> sudo
[12:29] <bxnp> philip2: cause you dont have the rights to remove something in /media
[12:29] <bxnp> but to be honest why do you bother for that directory
[12:29] <bxnp> and what is the name of that direcotry
[12:29] <philip2>  /media/hub
[12:30] <bxnp> and you created that directory name
[12:30] <philip2> "sudo rm -rf /media/hub" like this?
[12:30] <philip2> yes
[12:30] <bxnp> yes you remove it that way
[12:30] <philip2> iok
[12:30] <philip2> still there
[12:31] <bxnp> refresh konqueror
[12:31] <bxnp> or what every ou use
[12:31] <philip2> its ok now
[12:31] <philip2> sorry about that
[12:31] <philip2> thanks bxnp
[12:31] <bxnp> np philip2
[12:31] <philip2> ^^
[12:31] <philip2> forgot about case sensitive
[12:33] <bxnp> and did it work to write to ntfs philip2
[12:33] <philip2> yes
[12:33] <bxnp> cool, so its stable
[12:34] <philip2> i have to go thanks again
[12:35] <tabr> bxnp : /var/log/mysql.err - empty. /var/log/mysql.log - empty. /var/log/mysql.log.1.gz=>mysql.log - empty, locate mysql.log => /var/log/mysql.log,/var/log/mysql.log.1.gz.
[12:36] <bxnp> oke tabr
[12:37] <jarhead-x> cyco: GPG error: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 2
[12:37] <bxnp> tabr: you have all the packages installed for mysql
[12:37] <premier_> does any one here have experience with foriegn langauges, like japanese?
[12:37] <premier_> !jp
[12:37] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp
[12:39] <bxnp> tabr: i have to go to bed, so i am not able to help you further
[12:40] <bxnp> may i remind you there is allso a mysql channel on the server
[12:40] <bxnp> maybe a better place for asking help about mysql related problems
[12:42] <jake> guys how do run compiz?
[12:42] <Hasrat_USA> you mean how do guys run compiz?
[12:42] <bxnp> dont jake its overrated
[12:42] <bxnp> just use the console :)
[12:42] <Hasrat_USA> how about how girls run compiz? :D
[12:43] <Hasrat_USA> i bet 80 percent of the educated female population in the united states doesn't even know how to install XP :P
[12:44] <tanlaan> ive installed No Machine on my system, can you help me figure out how to run it?
[12:44] <jake> please tell me how run compiz
[12:44] <jarhead-x> how do I find the key number for us.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:44] <bxnp> is it running tanlaan
[12:44] <tabr> [mysql-server] ,[mysql-server-5.0] .[mysql-client] ,[mysql-client-5.0] ,[mysql-common] ,[libmysqlclient15off] ,[libmysqlclient15-dev] ,[libmysqlclient14] ,[libdbd-mysql-perl] +GUI tools+Apache2(works)+php5(works)
[12:45] <tanlaan> does it run in the background automatically? or do you have to go through the NX Session Administrator to start it?
[12:45] <bxnp> well if you configured it to start at boot time it should run as we speak
[12:45] <bxnp> oke to this
[12:45] <bxnp> tanlaan: alt -f2 nxlcient
[12:46] <bxnp> then go to configure
[12:46] <bxnp> put your host
[12:46] <bxnp> in
[12:46] <tanlaan> wait wait wait
[12:46] <bxnp> the kind of desktop you want to run on that remove machine
[12:47] <tanlaan> i installed this through .deb files
[12:47] <tanlaan> and for some reason its not in my usr/bin
[12:47] <bxnp> yes so what, do you have nxclient install
[12:47] <bxnp> installed
[12:47] <tanlaan> yea
[12:47] <tanlaan> i have server, node, and client
[12:47] <bxnp> well run the program wherever it is
[12:47] <tanlaan> ok
[12:48] <jake> please, if you install you install compiz is it automattically running?
[12:48] <tanlaan> it brings up NX Session Administrator
[12:48] <tanlaan> and then I have only one choice, start a session
[12:48] <tanlaan> *start a new session
[12:48] <bxnp> if you do nxclient it runs the session administrator ????
[12:48] <tanlaan> no
[12:48] <tanlaan> one sec
[12:48] <tabr> bxnp [01:44]  <tabr>
[12:48] <tanlaan> there normal client
[12:49] <tanlaan> ok now I'm supposed to put in session, host, and internet type
[12:49] <tanlaan> what should my host be?
[12:49] <bxnp> do this
[12:50] <bxnp> run /usr/NX/bin/nxclient
[12:50] <bxnp> offcourse not with run infront
[12:50] <bxnp> but that is the binary you should be running
[12:50] <bxnp> and its in that directory
[12:50] <tanlaan> ok
[12:50] <tanlaan> well now its up
[12:50] <bxnp> good
[12:50] <tanlaan> *like last time
[12:50] <tanlaan> **
[12:51] <jake> anybody here dont know how to run compiz,
[12:51] <bxnp> can you  go to configure tanlaan
[12:51] <tanlaan> Im in the configure
[12:51] <tanlaan> because its the first time running/i havent finished the configuration
[12:51] <isa> ola
[12:52] <tanlaan> so yea, i need to put in a session name, host, and select my internet type. I get session name because thats what its saved as, i get internet connection, but what about host?
[12:52] <bxnp> oke
[12:52] <isa> cual es el canal de spain?
[12:52] <bxnp> the host is the ip adres of the box you want to connecto to
[12:53] <tanlaan> so what, i could type <IP_ADDRESS> to connect to my own computer?
[12:53] <bxnp> you could,
[12:53] <bxnp> but then you open an session to your own box
[12:54] <jarhead-x> this is getting frustrating.
[12:54] <bxnp> but you could try it to test if everything is working
[12:54] <tanlaan> yea, thats what i would have to do atm because im on the desktop im gonna run the server off of
[12:54] <jarhead-x> the reason why i am trying out kubuntu is because the package management is supposedly WAY better than fedora
[12:54] <jarhead-x> I am having a heck of a time with it
[12:55] <jarhead-x> sudo apt-get update
[12:55] <Hasrat_USA> lol
[12:55] <bxnp> tanlaan: put in your username password
[12:55] <bxnp> fill in the screen size you want
[12:55] <jarhead-x>  The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 2
[12:55] <bxnp> the kind of connection speed
[12:55] <bxnp> and if you go to the advance tab
[12:55] <Hasrat_USA> i'm a big time KDE fan but i still use GNOME's synaptics and i believe it's the best when it comes to package management
[12:55] <bxnp> enable ssl encryption tanlaan
[12:55] <tanlaan> bxnp: yea, i got all that
[12:55] <bxnp> and use maximan cache
[12:55] <tanlaan> bxnp: but it won't connect, the server isnt up
[12:56] <bxnp> oke
[12:56] <bxnp> tanlaan:
[12:56] <tanlaan> bxnp: THATS what i wanted help with :D
[12:56] <jarhead-x> anyone have an idea why I am getting  The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 2
[12:56] <jarhead-x> when trying to sudo apt-get update
[12:56] <tanlaan> jarhead-x: what have you done so far after installing kubuntu?
[12:56] <bxnp> do /etc/init.d/nxserver start tanlaan
[12:57] <Tm_T> jarhead-x: Have you touched sources.list ? Can you pastebin all what does apt-get return?
[12:57] <jarhead-x> yeah...I have modified the sources.list
[12:57] <tanlaan> say nvm it IS running
[12:57] <Tm_T> jarhead-x: Pastebin that too then.
[12:57] <Tm_T> !paste
[12:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:58] <bxnp> btw do you have an ssh server running tanlaan
[12:58] <bxnp> because it should
[12:58] <tanlaan> i just ran "sudo /etc/init.d/nxserver start" and it said it was already running
[12:58] <ubuntu> how can i use konqueror to specify a user/password to log into a samba server?
[12:58] <Tm_T> !samba
[12:58] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:58] <bxnp> oke
[12:58] <bxnp> well then its running tanlaan that is good
[12:59] <Ademan_kitchen> right my problem is with konqueror, not with samba
[12:59] <tanlaan> how do i tell what my ip address is from the CL?
[12:59] <bxnp> what is the error console give you in nxlcient when you want to connecto to localhost
[12:59] <draik> Is anyone using KTorrent right now? I don't seem to have the Download/Upload/Search tabs.
[12:59] <Ademan_kitchen> ifconfig
[12:59] <Tm_T> Ademan_kitchen: There's nothing related to that?
[12:59] <Ademan_kitchen> draik: i'm using it as we speak
[12:59] <Tm_T> Ademan_kitchen: I know basicly nothing about samba, sorry. ;(
[01:00] <Ademan_kitchen> Tm_T: haha its ok
[01:00] <Tm_T> Ademan_kitchen: I try to avoid such things as much as possible. :)
[01:01] <jarhead-x> Tm_T: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9946/
[01:01] <Ademan_kitchen> i have to back up my home directory from this computer onto my file server because envy (the driver installer) ruined the computer
[01:01] <chavo> draik, the tabs are back in the latest version
[01:01] <jarhead-x> Thanks for taking a look
[01:01] <tanlaan> http://pastebin.ca/391249
[01:02] <tanlaan> i think my router is blocking the port
[01:02] <Ademan_kitchen> tanlaan: are you behind the same router as the ssh computer?
[01:02] <tanlaan> yes technically, right now im ON the ssh computer
[01:02] <bxnp> tanlaan:
[01:02] <Ademan_kitchen> because no matter how hard i tried, i couldn't get my router to let ssh connectiosn through
[01:03] <bxnp> start the ssh server on that machine
[01:03] <bxnp> /etc/init.d/ssh start
[01:03] <bxnp> its not running so the connection is refused
[01:03] <tanlaan> fark
[01:03] <bxnp> start it and connect again
[01:03] <tanlaan> no ssh client
[01:04] <tanlaan> or atleast in init.d
[01:04] <bxnp> that is the server when you start it
[01:05] <bxnp> oke do well install the ssh server tanlaan
[01:05] <Tm_T> jarhead-x: Looks nice, I assume you would like to enable security repos for universe and multiverse too though.
[01:05] <draik> chavo: I have the latest version
[01:05] <jarhead-x> ok cool
[01:05] <tanlaan> bxnp: just ran "sudo apt-get install ssh"
[01:06] <jarhead-x> I wonder if my content filter isn't borking up the gpg stuff?
[01:06] <Tm_T> jarhead-x: Also, it seems to me that us-mirror has some broken content perhaps? Try removing 'us' part from broken repositories.
[01:06] <Tm_T> content filter?
[01:06] <jarhead-x> dansguardian
[01:06] <Tm_T> Hm?
[01:06] <jarhead-x> going to bypass that quick
[01:06] <Tm_T> Ok.
[01:07] <Tm_T> Anyway, try fiddle about those repositories. :)
[01:07] <bxnp> tanlaan: do sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:07] <bxnp> you need that one
[01:07] <tanlaan> got it to work
[01:07] <Tm_T> Ok. I'm heading to bed, kids, remember to behave and have fun. ->
[01:08] <tanlaan> bxnp: shouldnt need any more help :D
[01:08] <tanlaan> bxnp: thank you for your time
[01:08] <bxnp> what is it working
[01:08] <space_ninja> how do set up the computer so it will automatically shutdown a certain time?
[01:08] <tanlaan> im gonna go try it with my laptop
[01:08] <space_ninja> at a
[01:08] <tanlaan> bxnp: I successfully connected to my computer
[01:09] <bxnp> and you have your kde desktop
[01:09] <Hasrat_USA> damn i wanna buy a touch screen monitor and run beryl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx9FgLr9oTk
[01:10] <tanlaan> bxnp: yes, but im running gnome *on ubuntu, just like #kubuntu better its nicer :D*
[01:10] <bxnp> oke np, glad to be of services
[01:10] <bxnp> btw you could combine this with hamachi
[01:11] <bxnp> if you are behind routers and dont want to open up port ssh to the internet
[01:12] <bxnp> tabr: you are still here
[01:13] <tabr> bxnp yes
[01:13] <bxnp> oke your mysql problem
[01:13] <bxnp> is not solved yet
[01:14] <tabr> bxnp i think, its maybe broken package ...removing from cache a re-downloading...
[01:14] <tabr> sorry for my english....
[01:15] <morvok> can anyone tell me why I keep getting a popup saying sound server cpu overloading?
[01:16] <morvok> the sound keeps working too.
[01:21] <StavFX> hm, i just installed Kubuntu (<-- completely new to linux) and the first thing on my list is to get audio working, can anyone help?
[01:21] <bxnp> what kind of audio card do you have
[01:21] <morvok> mine worked outa the box.
[01:21] <jhutchins> StavFX: Well, we don't know what audio hardware you have, or what it's doing (as opposed to not doing)...
[01:22] <jhutchins> StavFX: All I had to do was move the balance slider off center.
[01:22] <StavFX> yeah i figured it should work just like that and i thought maybe there's a known bug. but anyway, i'm using an old Creative sound blaster 128
[01:22] <bxnp> oke
[01:23] <bxnp> well i think its already working
[01:23] <StavFX> and there's no sound at all
[01:23] <bxnp> go to the console
[01:23] <bxnp> do alt f2
[01:23] <StavFX> ok
[01:23] <bxnp> type konsole
[01:23] <StavFX> yeah i'm in there lol. i'm not THAT new
[01:23] <bxnp> oke well you said so yourself, so i thought i spell it all out lol
[01:24] <bxnp> anyway StavFX
[01:24] <StavFX> but actually keep explaining that specificly xD
[01:24] <bxnp> do alsamixer
[01:24] <bxnp> type alsamixer in the console
[01:24] <bxnp> under the bar what do you see
[01:24] <StavFX> alright i'm in the mixer thing
[01:24] <bxnp> if you read mm
[01:25] <bxnp> that means that its muted
[01:25] <bxnp> so now sound will play
[01:25] <bxnp> you have to type the letter m to unmute it
[01:25] <StavFX> Master vol wasn't muted
[01:25] <bxnp> and pcm
[01:26] <StavFX> no
[01:26] <bxnp> oke,
[01:26] <StavFX> on the right, Center is muted tho
[01:26] <bxnp> ehm, unmute it
[01:27] <StavFX> how do i do that
[01:27] <bxnp> increase the volume with the arrow but dont move it into the red
[01:27] <bxnp> only green
[01:27] <bxnp> wich has a value of 77
[01:28] <StavFX> crap i pressed C and it decreased one side of the master volume, how do i turn it back?
[01:28] <bxnp> z
[01:28] <bxnp> press z
[01:29] <StavFX> ok
[01:29] <tanlaan> bxnp: hey do you know if there is a way to make the sound not play through the server computer but from the remote computer?
[01:29] <bxnp> yes that is all possible
[01:29] <tanlaan> where are the settings to change?
[01:29] <bxnp> but you need a client who is able to recieve it
[01:29] <StavFX> so set it to 77 or not? because 77 is where it hits red
[01:30] <bxnp> ehm something around there
[01:30] <StavFX> well either way there's still no sound
[01:30] <bxnp> ehm
[01:31] <StavFX> i even plugged another set of speakers to the onboard sound card to see if it's coming from there, but nothying
[01:31] <morvok> the sound card listed is lspci?
[01:31] <bxnp> oh you have two cards
[01:31] <bxnp> yes do a lspci
[01:31] <bxnp> tanlaan: but you where talking about nxclient you want to hear the sound of your gnome desktop in your remoe session
[01:31] <crazy_bus> what is the best kubuntu program to burn a video file into a dvd watchable on a standard player
[01:31] <intelikey> i see in /var/log/  a subdir named 'unattended-upgrades'   please tell me that ubuntu doesn't do that by default ?
[01:32] <tanlaan> bxnp: yes, atm it is coming out of my server computers speakers
[01:32] <StavFX> ah yes, it's been trying to send to the onboard until now, but there's no sound coming from there, so back to square 1
[01:32] <bxnp> ahaah
[01:32] <tanlaan> bxnp: I want it to come out of the remote computers speakers :D
[01:33] <tanlaan> bxnp: although this makes me think No Machine is a very viable thing to use for an automated house
[01:33] <bxnp> did you enable multimedia support tanlaan in the nxclient configuration
[01:33] <tanlaan> umm
[01:33] <tanlaan> ill find out :D
[01:33] <bxnp> go to the configure tab
[01:34] <bxnp> thenb go to services
[01:34] <bxnp> and there you find it
[01:34] <bxnp> same for printing
[01:34] <bxnp> and file sharing trhough the smb protocl
[01:34] <StavFX> in windows i'd just assume i'm missing a driver...?
[01:34] <tanlaan> okk, now it should work :D
[01:35] <morvok> StavFX: look for the drivers using lsmod.
[01:35] <bxnp> btw tanlaan put the cache up to the maximan
[01:35] <intelikey>                                                                  i see in /var/log/  a subdir named 'unattended-upgrades'   please tell me that ubuntu doesn't do that by default ?
[01:35] <bxnp> btw StavFX the card should be working out of the box the most easiest way is to disable the onboard sound in your bios in boot up
[01:35] <tanlaan> bxnp: oo, i did that right off the back :D
[01:35] <StavFX> morvok: can u explain? what is lsmod and how do i see which drivers are using it?
[01:36] <tanlaan> *bat
[01:36] <bxnp> lsmod is listing the modules
[01:36] <bxnp> modules like drivers StavFX
[01:36] <morvok> StavFX: type 'lsmod', it lists the modules you're kernel has loaded.
[01:36] <Aiwuu> Java
[01:36] <bxnp> for example the moduels loaded for you wifi card your motherboard et cetc
[01:36] <Aiwuu> !java
[01:36] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[01:36] <morvok> StavFX: look for snd_*
[01:37] <bxnp> tanlaan: you mean that you put the cache up to the maximan already
[01:37] <tanlaan> yup
[01:37] <StavFX> i found this line:  snd_page_alloc         11400  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm               i'll keep looking for more
[01:37] <bxnp> good, and is sound working tanlaan
[01:37] <darklantern> HI all, what do we know about lan printing and firewalls, i have a tricky problem
[01:38] <bxnp> we are the borg, this channel knows everything
[01:38] <darklantern> Excellent -/wring hands/
[01:38] <bxnp> the collective knowledge of this channel is vast, and growing while we speak
[01:38] <bxnp> state your problem
[01:38] <morvok> bxnp: not completely.  no one answered about my arts sound server overloading.
[01:39] <morvok> :)
[01:39] <bxnp> lol
[01:39] <StavFX> ok there a few lines with "snd" in it, but i don't know what's relevant. actually i don't understand much of the output from lsmod
[01:39] <bxnp> patience
[01:39] <darklantern> My nix box is a file a print server (ish), i can connect my xp laptops to it to print via wireless networks, new line
[01:39] <bxnp> somethimes people are a bit lazy
[01:39] <morvok> googles some more.
[01:39] <bxnp> like me, somethimes i see a problem know the answer but too tired to answer the question like know
[01:39] <bxnp> its 1.40 in the morning i need sleep so iam  off
[01:39] <darklantern> but i have installed guarddog firewall, let IPP and port 631 thru
[01:39] <Cyco> hey bxnp seems to be a bit more responsive after the "renice" - thanks
[01:40] <StavFX> noooooooooooo!!!! :P
[01:40] <tanlaan> bye bxnp
[01:40] <StavFX> later. thanks for the help :)
[01:40] <crazy_bus> can k3b burn a video file so its playable on a normal dvd player.  Or is there a better way?
[01:40] <bxnp> btw if you reboot you have to renice it again
[01:40] <bxnp> you could allso renice app's if you want
[01:40] <darklantern> when i boot the xp machine it does not connect to the printer, but if i turn off the firewall then it connects as normal, i turn the firewall back on a it still works.
[01:40] <Cyco> awesome - got it.....never thought of renice!
[01:40] <bxnp> but be sure not to renice it more then -5 or 4
[01:41] <bxnp> its a dirty work around
[01:41] <bxnp> not very elegant i must say
[01:41] <Cyco> ya i gotcha, will work for a month ya know
[01:41] <bxnp> but it works
[01:41] <Cyco> next machine will not have to worry bout limited resources
[01:41] <darklantern> I can not get the xp machine to talk through without turning off the firewall :(
[01:41] <jhutchins> bxnp: That's what nice is for.
[01:42] <bxnp> what jhutchins ?
[01:43] <StavFX> hmmm ok i'll worry about sound later. i got another question. i looked for installing WINE and it said somewhere to open Adpet and search for "wine" in the search box. but it comes up with nothing, what am i missing?
[01:43] <Cyco> stavfx have you added extra repos?
[01:43] <Cyco> or you still sitting on default
[01:43] <StavFX> default
[01:43] <bxnp> my god why is kubuntu not configuring the extra repo's as default
[01:44] <bxnp> how many times people come looking for the same answer, wich is enable to extra repo's
[01:44] <morvok> bxnp: same reason the root account is disabled.
[01:44] <StavFX> ah ha, and a quickie on how i enable those?
[01:44] <Cyco> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[01:44] <bxnp> not its just plain stupid, and trust me it will change
[01:45] <bxnp> sooner or later, they will configure those extra repo's from install
[01:45] <jake_> what program are similar to morpheus?
[01:45] <Cyco> would save some heartache!
[01:45] <philip2> hi again how do i edit my Grub menu if my windows xp installation is in sda1 (Sata;my kubuntu reside here too) ?
[01:46] <draik> How do I bring back the tabs from kTorrent?
[01:46] <darklantern> ttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G
[01:46] <darklantern> Oops should read properly
[01:47] <philip2> no
[01:47] <philip2> there's no windows xp option in my grub menu
[01:47] <Orange1> wine created a directory Program Files -- how do i get in there -- cd Program Files            isnt going to work
[01:47] <Cyco> cd ~
[01:48] <Cyco> ~/.wine/drive_c
[01:48] <Cyco> phillip http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[01:48] <bxnp> morvok: there are question's ask in every linux distro channel on this server, wich are asked over and over again, only because those distro builders dont listen to what people want
[01:48] <Cyco> look down there is as section on adding xp to grub
[01:48] <Orange1> cyco: whats the rest
[01:48] <bxnp> and its cross distrubutions
[01:49] <Orange1> cyco: i want to put  some files into 'Program Files'
[01:49] <Cyco> right
[01:49] <Cyco> cd into home directory, /.wine/drive_c and do an ls
[01:49] <Cyco> Program Files is within
[01:49] <Orange1> yep
[01:49] <Orange1> Cyco: im at the door - how do i get inside
[01:50] <Cyco> or in konqueror go to view, show hidden files, you will see your .wine
[01:50] <Cyco> folder for the gui
[01:50] <Cyco> i cannot explain how to copy files
[01:50] <Cyco> man cp
[01:50] <philip2> thanks ill be back later
[01:50] <Orange1> how do i get inside 'Program Files'
[01:50] <Cyco> cd
[01:50] <Cyco> cd P then press tab
[01:50] <StavFX> cyco: that link doesn't show the "easy way" for Kubuntu, it looks different on Ubuntu
[01:50] <Cyco> what easy way?
[01:50] <StavFX> apt-get
[01:50] <Orange1> cd Program\ Files/
[01:51] <Orange1> thats all i needed to know
[01:51] <Orange1> i didnt know about \
[01:51] <Cyco> cool
[01:51] <StavFX> or using the Adept Manager
[01:51] <Cyco> aaahh yes
[01:51] <Cyco> well its good to know the working of adept
[01:51] <Orange1> isnt .wine suppose to be at /home/USERNAME/.wine  ??
[01:52] <Cyco> yes
[01:52] <Orange1> should i move it -  or will something break
[01:52] <Cyco> where is it currently
[01:52] <Cyco> type pwd
[01:52] <Orange1>  /root
[01:53] <Cyco> and .wine is located there -  i find that hard to believe
[01:53] <Orange1> root@Orange:~# pwd
[01:53] <Orange1> /root
[01:53] <Cyco> type whoami
[01:53] <StavFX> alright so how do i add the extra repo's in adept manager?
[01:54] <Orange1> orange@Orange:~$ whoami
[01:54] <Orange1> orange
[01:54] <Cyco> view - - manage repos STAVFX
[01:54] <StavFX> yeah i'm there, what do i add/change?
[01:55] <Orange1> uncomment all of them
[01:55] <Cyco> yes
[01:55] <Orange1> should be like 4
[01:55] <Orange1> you can right click them and hit enable
[01:55] <Cyco> thanks orange
[01:55] <Orange1> back to installing flash 8 with wine
[01:55] <StavFX> uncommet?
[01:56] <Orange1> StavFX: just right click on them and hit enable
[01:56] <StavFX> all of them?
[01:56] <Orange1> StavFX: on the ones that have a url in them - yes
[01:56] <Cyco> orange so did you get the .wine issue resolved?
[01:56] <Jucato> Orange1: Flash 8 w/ wine? you mean the Flash player?
[01:56] <Orange1> Cyco: gonna leave it at root -- its not really a problem i guess
[01:56] <StavFX> ah there are only 6. ok so enable everything i guess
[01:57] <Orange1> Jucato: i mean the program to develop flash
[01:57] <Jucato> aah
[01:57] <Cyco> do you have a .wine in your home/orange dir
[01:57] <Orange1> Jucato: want the working guide?
[01:57] <Orange1> Cyco: i do not
[01:57] <Jucato> Orange1: nah no thanks. :)
[01:58] <Cyco> i would try copying the dir to your home, recursive
[01:58] <StavFX> ok i enabled everything, apply and fetch updates, but wine still isn't in the list
[01:58] <Cyco> if you run wine program.exe as normal user it will read out of home/orange
[01:59] <Orange1> sudo wine is required now?
[01:59] <Orange1> StavFX: just a sec
[01:59] <morvok> reboot.. think I found what was triggering the sound server cpu failure.
[01:59] <Cyco> i don't know, i don't know how it got added to /root
[01:59] <Cyco> did you enable root account?
[01:59] <StavFX> i'm waiting :)
[01:59] <Cyco> yes adept is slow, learn apt-cache search
[01:59] <bxnp> morvok: is there a legal reason why the extra repo's are not enabled by default
[02:00] <Orange1> StavFX: go to terminal and type
[02:00] <Orange1> StavFX: wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[02:00] <Orange1> including that - at the end
[02:01] <Orange1> don't forget that dash after the word 'add'
[02:01] <StavFX> alright
[02:01] <StavFX> said OK
[02:01] <Orange1> StavFX: next type
[02:01] <Orange1> StavFX: sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/edgy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list
[02:02] <StavFX> done
[02:02] <Orange1> StavFX: sudo apt-get update
[02:02] <Orange1> sudo apt-get install wine
[02:02] <Orange1> and you set
[02:03] <StavFX> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:03] <Orange1> close adapt
[02:03] <Orange1> or synaptic
[02:03] <StavFX> oh my bad ^^;
[02:03] <Orange1> and do sudo apt-get install wine
[02:03] <Orange1> its like 9mbs i think
[02:03] <tabr> bxnp : 12.03.2007 03:00:16	megaserver	/etc/init.d/mysql[6171] 	0 processes alive and '/usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping' resulted in 12.03.2007 03:00:16	megaserver	/etc/init.d/mysql[6171] 	Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!
[02:04] <StavFX> awesome! tyvm :)
[02:04] <Orange1> np
[02:04] <StavFX> my windows drives are read only, how do i change that?
[02:04] <Cyco> what is in your /etc/fstab
[02:05] <Cyco> (/dev/hdb1       /media/data     vfat    iocharset=utf8,umask=000       0       0)
[02:05] <StavFX> UUID=6ADCB3C5DCB38A39 /media/sdb2     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0
[02:06] <bxnp> tabr: i am on my way to my bed
[02:06] <StavFX> oh and there's a 1 at the end
[02:06] <bxnp> Cyco: could you help tabr
[02:06] <morvok> @yay
[02:06] <tabr> bxnp ok, thanks
[02:07] <Cyco> ya np
[02:07] <Cyco> later bxnp
[02:07] <bxnp> adios everybody happy kubuntu :)
[02:08] <StavFX> thx ^_^
[02:08] <Cyco> stavfx you want this mounted at boot, with everyone read/write
[02:08] <StavFX> alright, how do i go about that?
[02:08] <Cyco> sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[02:09] <StavFX> ntfs-3g?  what does that do?
[02:09] <Cyco> read write support for ntfs
[02:09] <StavFX> oh wait it didn't find the package
[02:10] <Cyco> hmm hold
[02:10] <StavFX> holding
[02:10] <Orange1> StavFX: what you trying to install?
[02:10] <StavFX> nothing yet
[02:10] <StavFX> just want the access
[02:10] <jake_> please any idea newbie tips for using beryl
[02:10] <Cyco> ntfs-3g - Third generation Linux NTFS driver
[02:10] <Cyco> its in my cache
[02:11] <StavFX> oh yeah, i'm going to try and install beryl pretty soon :)
[02:11] <Cyco> hmm lemme see what repo that is in, or antoher method
[02:11] <Cyco> beryl is fun you nvidia or ati
[02:11] <StavFX> ati
[02:11] <Cyco> nice
[02:11] <Orange1> lol
[02:11] <Cyco> newer card ?
[02:11] <StavFX> no, 9800 XT
[02:11] <Orange1> isnt ATi the one with issues
[02:12] <Orange1> or more workarounds then nVidia
[02:12] <Cyco> not heard many problems with 9800xt stav
[02:12] <Cyco> you should be ok
[02:12] <StavFX> cool
[02:12] <StavFX> anyway, i'm still not to that point yet
[02:13] <NightBird> beryl supports using the nvidia card to accelerate directly...
[02:13] <StavFX> i think i'll work on getting some sort of sound to come out before i make everything pretty :)
[02:13] <Orange1> NightBird: thats how i setup mine
[02:13] <NightBird> or alglx... or xgl
[02:13] <StavFX> oh, so nvidia would be better for all the eye-candy progs?
[02:13] <StavFX> or is there something that does the same thing but is better for ati?
[02:14] <NightBird> StavFX: not nessisarily.... but it's easier to set up
[02:14] <StavFX> ah
[02:14] <Cyco> both cards/drivers handle aiglx and xgl
[02:14] <Cyco> stay away from xgl though
[02:14] <NightBird> yeah
[02:14] <NightBird> also, nvidia supports composites built in while ati's driver doesn't..
[02:14] <jake_> if ithe wndow manager to beryl, it seens that no effect
[02:14] <Cyco> as it is adding another layer to your X session and renders other openGL apps useless
[02:14] <StavFX> well like i said, i'm just putting on my boots and already looking at the summit, gotta take it easy :)
[02:15] <tabr> can anybody help me to start mysql server?
[02:15] <NightBird> so if you want 3d acceleration using the ati, you have to disable composites
[02:15] <bxnp> btw i was thinking is beryl running on a nvidia gforece 1
[02:15] <Cyco> tabr lookin into it
[02:15] <Orange1> NightBird: i setup beryl with xgl but it wouldnt load at login - it would just crash at desktop -- then i found the guide to install just with nvidia cards and did it without removing anything -- now i wont touch beryl or something might break (Working now)
[02:15] <Cyco> geforce1 bxnp!
[02:15] <bxnp> yes Cyco
[02:15] <Cyco> lol
[02:15] <bxnp> i have a spare one ovehere
[02:15] <Cyco> nice !
[02:15] <Cyco> i have a 2 @ work pumpin beryl
[02:15] <NightBird> yeah, xgl uses an OpenGL context, so unless your card supports multiple OpenGL contexts, you won't have 3d acceleration in any opengl programs when running xgl
[02:16] <StavFX> so Cyco, back to the NTFS access thing
[02:16] <Cyco> ah yes
[02:16] <Cyco> beryl distractions
[02:16] <StavFX> lol i know
[02:16] <tabr> Cyco hmm..what? Problems with my english.....
[02:16] <NightBird> I normally don't mess with it though too much...
[02:17] <NightBird> reduces my battery life by a fair chunk
[02:17] <bxnp> btw tabr go to the mysql channel its better and faster for your answer i guess
[02:17] <Cyco> i am still  researching your sql problem
[02:17] <Cyco> only 1 brain - 10 requests
[02:17] <bxnp> go catch the expert people tabr
[02:17] <bxnp> :)]
[02:17] <Cyco> yes!
[02:17] <Cyco> lol
[02:18] <tabr> bxnp ok....but how? Can you give me a link?
[02:18] <Orange1> lol
[02:18] <bxnp>  do /join #mysql
[02:18] <Orange1> link to expert ppl
[02:18] <StavFX> rofl
[02:18] <bxnp> its a channel on the server tabr
[02:18] <bxnp> just like kubuntu
[02:18] <StavFX> WTB [Expert Ppl]
[02:18] <StavFX> lol sry, too much wow
[02:19] <jake_> guys if i change my window manager to beryl, it seems that no effect or nothing happens, and the minimize, maximize, close icons are dissapeared
[02:19] <Cyco> stav did you look up the 3g ntfs driver?
[02:19] <StavFX> i would, if i had any idea where to start and what to do
[02:19] <Orange1> jake_: theres a checklist of fixes for the toolbar missing - worked for me
[02:19] <Orange1> jake_: give me a sec to get it
[02:20] <tabr> bxnp Found. Thanks
[02:20] <Cyco> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=write+ntfs STAVFX
[02:20] <StavFX> sweeeet
[02:20] <tabr> StavFX http://ntfs3g.org/
[02:21] <StavFX> alright my lesson: google more, bother ppl less
[02:21] <Cyco> add edgy entry to source list,  then sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g, then /dev/<your partition>     /media/<mount point>     ntfs-3g     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    0
[02:21] <crazy_bus> how come when I used devede it said it used all the space avaible in the program but when I burnt it to a 4.7gb disc it only used around half the space?
[02:21] <Orange1> jake_: do you have nvidia or xgl?
[02:21] <StavFX> "add edgy entry to source list"?  lost you
[02:22] <Cyco> do you knkow any text editors?
[02:22] <Cyco> vi, nano
[02:22] <Cyco> ?
[02:22] <Orange1> nano is easier
[02:22] <jake_> i dont know, im a newbie but i think, ive installed xgl
[02:22] <Cyco> vi is easier
[02:22] <StavFX> there's this Kate thing that came with the system
[02:22] <bxnp> or just do sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:22] <Cyco> but thats a whole different discussion
[02:22] <Cyco> *thanx bxnp
[02:23] <Cyco> set -o vi - your prompt becomes vi
[02:23] <ubuntu> #kubuntu-es
[02:23] <Cyco> most powerful
[02:23] <Orange1> jake_: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_nVidia#My_windows_don.27t_have_any_decorations_.28title_bar.2C_resize_handles.2C_minimize.2Fmaximize.2Fclose_buttons.29
[02:23] <Cyco> deb http://flomertens.free.fr/ubuntu/ edgy main main-all add this entry to your sources.list per bxnp instructions
[02:23] <jake_> Orange1: how do i know that im using xgl?
[02:24] <StavFX> alright so what's after sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:24] <jake_> Orange1:  i dont know, im a newbie but i think, ive installed xgl
[02:24] <Cyco> after your are done adding your fstab entry with ntfs 3g driver type this sudo umount -a && sudo mount -a
[02:24] <Cyco> ok do you have that page up i sent
[02:24] <Orange1> jake_: I dont know much about linux - i just follow guides for all the problems i get (or ask here) -- but i had the same/similar problem of no titlebar -- this fix'd it on the first step
[02:25] <kutu> #kubuntu-es
[02:25] <StavFX> i'll just go look at the page for a sec and follow the stuff there
[02:25] <Cyco> yes follow manual config
[02:25] <Cyco> for the install
[02:25] <Cyco> its plain as day after that
[02:26] <jake_> Orange1: ok thanx a lot, so your beryl running normally now?
[02:26] <joh1> how do i get that new firefox setup with mplayer to work right ?
[02:26] <Whiz2> I'm trying to use .PHP files on Kubuntu using lighttpd, but do not know how to get PHP, and lighttpd to work together, or how to install PHP with it
[02:26] <Cyco> remember after you are done type this to mount your hard drive again with r/w  permissions-->sudo umount -a && sudo mount -a
[02:26] <Orange1> jake_: yes - but i spent a lot of time customizing the beryl install
[02:27] <Orange1> jake_: since xgl didnt work for me
[02:28] <StavFX> i get Device Busy when i try to unmount
[02:29] <bxnp> do lsof <name of the device> StavFX
[02:30] <Cyco> bxnp is the sql question answered?
[02:30] <jake_> Orange1: its very complicated, i cant hold, or even type a message here when i try to change the win manager to beryl
[02:30] <Cyco> i have a link for him which could be of use
[02:30] <bxnp> dunno, tabr is your question answered in the mysql channel
[02:30] <StavFX> bxnp, what does that do?
[02:30] <Cyco> tabr check this link out if your still around.  http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-698.html
[02:31] <StavFX> and how do i know the device name?
[02:31] <bxnp> well he is gettings help overthrere
[02:31] <bxnp> however the mysql channel is a bit more strict then this one
[02:31] <BluesKaj> what's the command to uninstall and remove a dpkg ?
[02:31] <BluesKaj> it's not in the repos
[02:32] <Jucato> BluesKaj: if you installed a package using dpkg, it will be added in the list of installed packages in adept or apt-get. you can either use apt-get/Adept or dpkg -r
[02:32] <Cyco> if you want to remove config files purge it as to remove it blue
[02:34] <BluesKaj> Jucato, sorry it's not a deb pkg ...it's a tar.bz2
[02:34] <StavFX> i get a bunch of errors when trying to run ntfs-config
[02:34] <Cyco> i see you over there bxnp so you are the expert undercover!
[02:34] <Aiwuu> err... if i installed java-runtime ... why i dont see java things in firefox?!
[02:34] <Cyco> stavfx did you follow the manual config?
[02:34] <StavFX> still looking at it, hold on
[02:34] <joh1> i want middle click to push window to the back of other windows... can i do that ?
[02:34] <lontra> !medibuntu
[02:34] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[02:34] <Cyco> forget config
[02:35] <Cyco> sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[02:35] <Cyco> do that next stav
[02:35] <Cyco> and then edit your /etc/fstab and replace the line with ntfs partition with this           /dev/<your partition>     /media/<mount point>     ntfs-3g     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    0
[02:35] <Cyco> put a # in front of the old one in case you need it later
[02:37] <Orange1> jake_: i think your suppose to install aquamarine as the window manager for kde desktops
[02:37] <Orange1> jake_: emerald is for gnome based desktops
[02:37] <Jucato> aquamarine is a window decoration for the beryl window manager
[02:38] <Orange1> ya
[02:38] <Jucato> although both emerald and aquamarine can work on KDE
[02:38] <jake_> Orange1: isit in the repos also?
[02:39] <Jucato> aquamarine's advantage is that it will let you use KWin window decorations/themes
[02:39] <StavFX> yay!! it's working!
[02:39] <Cyco> voila
[02:39] <StavFX> thanks guys!
[02:39] <Orange1> jucato can better help you.. he seems more knowledgable
[02:39] <Whiz2> Can php5 work together with lighttpd web server on kubuntu?
[02:40] <StavFX> ok now what should i tackle next :)
[02:40] <Jucato> Orange1: nah. I'm not...
[02:40] <Jucato> I only used beryl for 2 days :D
[02:40] <Cyco> haha THE WORLD
[02:40] <Admiral_Chicago> Orange1: no Jucato is just a poser :) kidding
[02:40] <Jucato> yeah Admiral_Chicago is the ultimate knowledgeable guy in here :D
[02:40] <Orange1> jake_: can you open beryl-manager?
[02:40] <Jucato> so you all should bother him instead
[02:40] <Whiz2> I'll bother him. :-p
[02:41] <jake_> Orange1:  yes and theres a red diamon apears on the taskbar,
[02:41] <Whiz2> i need a little help configuring php5 to work with lighttpd web server
[02:41] <Orange1> can you get into the settings?
[02:41] <Whiz2> for which one?
[02:41] <Whiz2> php5?
[02:41] <orient2000> !beryl
[02:41] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:42] <Whiz2> oh you're not talking to me
[02:42] <Orange1> sry Whiz2
[02:42] <Whiz2> is ok
[02:42] <StavFX> ok i'm gonna try and install beryl now, let's hope i don't break anything
[02:42] <jake_> Orange1: do you mean "beryl  setting manager?
[02:42] <Orange1> jake_: yes
[02:42] <absolutroot> does anyone know if ndiswrapper in kubuntu edgy is broken like in the gnome release?
[02:43] <Cyco> whats your beaf whiz
[02:43] <jake_> Orange1: yes and then?
[02:43] <Orange1> absolutroot: i use ndiswrapper to load my wifi dell draftn drivers
[02:43] <Aiwuu> err... if i installed java-runtime ... why i dont see java things in firefox?!
[02:43] <Orange1> jake_: just checking if u can open them
[02:43] <Whiz2> using lighttpd web server in kubuntu, and trying to figure out how to make php pages work correctly
[02:43] <lontra> strigi doesn't seem to be very good in feisty...
[02:44] <Cyco> do you have php5 instalelD?
[02:44] <Aiwuu> me?, no :(
[02:44] <Whiz2> just now installed it, and about to reboot, but al i saw were packages for apache in the install
[02:44] <absolutroot> in ubuntu, i tried the fix for it, but if would freeze on boot and i would have to mount the hard drive from live cd and delete the conf files for my wifi card
[02:45] <Cyco> so you have php5 and lighthttpd installed?
[02:45] <Cyco> whats the problem you are encountering
[02:45] <jake_> Orange1: yes i can, one thin is, if i choose the beryl as win manager, everything seems stuck
[02:45] <Orange1> you have problems clicking on things?
[02:45] <jake_> yes
[02:46] <jake_> i cant even type amessage
[02:46] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: yes, I can take all questions
[02:46] <voidmage> jake_: does it go back to kwin after about a minute?
[02:46] <Whiz2> not sure if i'm going to have to change/add settings to ligttpd in order for it to work... gonna reboot to find out... was originally asking how to install it. ;-p
[02:46] <Cyco> If you're using php5-cgi, all you need is change your "bin-path" at your configuration (Debian uses /usr/bin/php4-cgi as default).
[02:46] <Cyco> http://trac.lighttpd.net/trac/wiki/TutorialLighttpdAndPHP bookmark that so when you come back up we shall see
[02:46] <Cyco> why the reboot?
[02:46] <jake_> yes
[02:47] <Orange1> when that happened to me - i just went to the red diamond -> advance beryl options and picked disable gl yield and anything anti xlg
[02:47] <joh1> i need to use mplayer to get firefox to play all media files right ? i cant use gstreamer can i ?
[02:47] <Whiz2> I didn't install php5-cgi. just php5 and all required packages for it
[02:48] <Camile_> hi
[02:48] <Camile_> whats up?
[02:48] <Cyco> hey whiz i gotta go to bed
[02:48] <Cyco> i wish you luck,
[02:48] <Camile_> bb
[02:48] <Whiz2> ty
[02:48] <Cyco> later kubuntees
[02:49] <jake_> Orange1: where is it again?
[02:49] <Orange1> when that happened to me - i just went to the red diamond -> advance beryl options and picked disable gl yield and anything anti xlg
[02:50] <BluesKaj> Howdy Admiral_Chicago , looking for a way to uninstall upstart 3.7 ... seems it corrupted a line my fstab file which keeps popping up when i try to install or make
[02:50] <jake_> Orange1: i couldnt see it
[02:52] <Orange1> you dont see advance beryl options?
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> BluesKaj: what release? Dapper I assume
[02:53] <Admiral_Chicago> also, what guide did you use?
[02:53] <BluesKaj> edgy
[02:54] <stavfx> ok silly question...after i installed Beryl, how do i actually run it?
[02:54] <Orange1> jake_:  you dont see advance beryl options?
[02:54] <Orange1> stavfx: sudo beryl-manager
[02:54] <alakhia> I upgraded from Dapper to Edgy ... but I don't see kde control panel in start menu anymore
[02:55] <jake_> Orange1: i saw but where is the disable gl yield and anything?
[02:55] <stavfx> woah, a lot of failed stuff
[02:55] <Orange1> screenshot time - sec
[02:57] <stavfx> umm...i don't see anything special
[02:59] <stavfx> alright i think it's safe to say it's not working
[02:59] <Orange1> jake_: make sure you put the picture to display at actual size or its gonna be too squished to read
[02:59] <jake_> Orange1: it doesnt appear on me
[02:59] <joh1>  Click Applications  Add/Remove. Select Other and then select the Ubuntu restricted extras package. Click OK.
[02:59] <joh1> i go to "others" and it shows me only a few applications
[02:59] <joh1> i dont see "ubuntu restricted extras" anywhere....
[03:00] <Dr_willis> what version of ubuntu did you install?
[03:00] <nick_> hey jon
[03:00] <joh1> who me ?
[03:00] <Dr_willis> or are you using synaptic or adept?
[03:00] <Orange1> type in terminal --                  beryl --version
[03:00] <joh1> idk the latest...
[03:00] <joh1> adept
[03:00] <jake_> Orange1: one sec. brb
[03:01] <joh1> 6.10
[03:01] <Whiz2> ok so I really do need help lol
[03:01] <Dr_willis> joh1,  thers several 'friendly' ways to enable repos.. or you can edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file (which I find easier) :)
[03:01] <jake_> Orange1: beryl-core 0.1.9999.2
[03:01] <jon_> hey can anyone help, I have an external drive and when I try to access it it says "Unable to enter file:///media/New Volume.  you do not have access rights to this location
[03:01] <joh1> oh Dr_willis this is chino wasn't i talking to you the other day ?
[03:01] <Orange1> we have same version
[03:02] <Dr_willis> joh1,  i hang in here so much.. i cant even rember. :)
[03:02] <joh1> Dr_willis:  yea give me the list if you want and ill add it my self ?
[03:02] <joh1> Dr_willis:  yea remember i was asking a bunch of questions and i was talking about using linux for like 6 years
[03:02] <joh1> ah whatever
[03:03] <Orange1> jake_: i dont know how to fix your problem ;( -- and i dont want to break anything cuz then i would feel bad for telling you to do something to make it worst
[03:03] <joh1> Dr_willis:  the web site didn't tell me to install anything into my sources list
[03:04] <StavFX> when i type sudo beryl-manager i get a bunch of BadDevice and invalid input device errors..
[03:04] <Dr_willis> joh1,  thats what the 'friendly front ends' are actually doing.
[03:05] <Admiral_Chicago> BluesKaj: edgy uses upstart out the box
[03:05] <jon_> hey can anyone help, I have an external drive and when I try to access it it says "Unable to enter file:///media/New Volume.  you do not have access rights to this location
[03:05] <joh1> Dr_willis:  but like i just said there is no "unrestricted" area....
[03:05] <Dr_willis> its amazing how FEW issues ive heard of upstart
[03:05] <Orange1> StavFX: beryl --test-only
[03:05] <jake_> Orange1: lol what happen to mine
[03:05] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry, was emailing
[03:05] <StavFX> no composite extension
[03:06] <Dr_willis> joh1,  i dont use the front ends.. to enable the 'restricted' and otehr repos the sources.list file has some lines similer to -->  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted
[03:06] <Dr_willis> edgy, main, restricted are the  various repositorie catagories.
[03:06] <StavFX> Orange: Checking for XComposite extension               : failed
[03:06] <joh1> are they by default commented out or somthing ?
[03:06] <StavFX> you know what this is about?
[03:07] <Dr_willis> joh1,  i would just back up your existing soruces.list and use teh  !easysource site to generate full ones with all enabled
[03:07] <jake_> Orange1: can you teach me how'd you take the pic of your screen? ill send it to you
[03:07] <Dr_willis> joh1,  you got it. disabled by default
[03:07] <BluesKaj> yeah, Admiral_Chicago ,this version is an upgrade to the installed one
[03:07] <Orange1> StavFX: that guy said earlier that ati has no composite support
[03:07] <joh1> Dr_willis:  what web site is that /
[03:07] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[03:07] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:07] <StavFX> oh...
[03:07] <Orange1> jake_: hit 'printscrn' on your keyboard
[03:08] <kRush> is anyone using envy to keep their nvidia drivers up to date? it won't start here with a rather long error output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9968/ - how do I fix this?
[03:08] <Whiz2> Using lighttpd, and newly installed php5 (only with required packages) and have no idea how to make them work together. Anyone know how to configure them?
[03:08] <jake_> Orange1: lol, see im a newbie.
[03:08] <Admiral_Chicago> BluesKaj: you should be using it then...
[03:09] <Orange1> jake_: so am i -- i just read every post and article i can find for many many hours til i can fix it
[03:09] <Admiral_Chicago> part of the update installs the upstart patch
[03:09] <Orange1> should be illegal for someone at my level to give aid to others
[03:09] <Admiral_Chicago> gotta run
[03:10] <Orange1> Admiral_Chicago: dont leave me!
[03:10] <Whiz2> I need a little help here. :-p
[03:10] <Whiz2> no pressure of course
[03:11] <joh1> Bazaar NG     wttffff is that ?
[03:11] <jon_> hey can anyone help, I have an external drive and when I try to access it it says "Unable to enter file:///media/New Volume.  you do not have access rights to this location
[03:11] <jon_> if I go into root it then says I don't have enough permissions
[03:11] <BluesKaj> well ok , maybe something else created the fstab prob line 18 :  /dev/partition /media/mount point ntfs-3g silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0  <-- this last 0 is in red in the etc/fstab file ...what's wrong ?
[03:12] <Whiz2> jon_: Are you using konqueror as your file browser?
[03:13] <jon_> yeah
[03:14] <joh1> i still dont see that option all i see in the others category is a list of applications not a list of categories
[03:14] <Whiz2> jon_: have you formatted the drive using linux, and mounted it?
[03:14] <jake_> Orange1: can you give me a link of those posts, or forums
[03:15] <jon_> it was formated under windows
[03:15] <jon_> ntfs
[03:15] <joh1> Whiz2:  what ?
[03:15] <Whiz2> have you added it into your fstab?
[03:15] <chin1> lol wrong name
[03:15] <Whiz2> Sorry joh1. i was talking to jon_
[03:15] <chin1> Dr_willis: idk man i still dont see it
[03:16] <Orange1> jake_: sure - sec
[03:16] <xanith> Ok guys, so I re-installed dapper 6.0.6, Put all the edgy repositories in it, and guess what, Opera, Wine and Beryl all work, I've installed Edgy x86 and x86_64 versions, and these same repositories will not work on it. What am I missing?
[03:16] <Whiz2> jon_: you can pm me if you like might make this convo a bit easier lol
[03:16] <Dr_willis> chin1,  see what?
[03:17] <jon_> sorry first time I have had to use this
[03:17] <jon_> how do I pm you?
[03:17] <Dr_willis> im in and out so much pm's tend to get ignored
[03:18] <Whiz2> jon_: do you have an instant messenger? we can move to one of those
[03:18] <Orange1> http://www.beryl-project.org/   http://ubuntuforum.org  http://kubuntuforums.org  http://www.linuxforums.org/
[03:18] <jake_> Orange1: thanx
[03:18] <jon_> yeah
[03:18] <eilker> !keylogger
[03:18] <jon_> msn
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keylogger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <Dr_willis> Just go to your own irc channel. :)
[03:18] <xanith> So has anyone else experienced my same problem?
[03:18] <Dr_willis> much easier
[03:18] <Orange1> and as always http://www.google.com   (though i prefer http://www.dogpile.com as my search engine
[03:18] <eilker> any keylogger for kubuntu ?
[03:18] <LjL> !lkl
[03:18] <ubotu> lkl: userspace keylogger for x86 architecture. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1-1 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 124 kB (Only available for i386 kfreebsd-i386)
[03:19] <Whiz2> jon_ i sent you a PM with my MSN address... check all your IRC windows
[03:19] <eilker> thanx
[03:20] <xanith> Ok guys, so I re-installed dapper 6.0.6, Put all the edgy repositories in it, and guess what, Opera, Wine and Beryl all work, I've installed Edgy x86 and x86_64 versions, and these same repositories will not work on it. What am I missing?
[03:21] <Whiz2> jon_: did you get it?
[03:21] <StavFX> i don't know what to do with beryl and this stupid XComposite extension
[03:21] <jon_> sorry dude can't find your address
[03:22] <Whiz2> anyone mind if I put it here for him?
[03:22] <chin1> how do i get flash working ?
[03:22] <chin1> flash flash flsah
[03:23] <Whiz2> jon_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:24] <jake_> Orange1: is my graphic cant handle beryl? im using ssavage s3
[03:27] <xanith> is anyone else using Edgy 6.1.0?
[03:27] <Orange1> jake_: never heard of that gfx card -- theres probably a list of unsupported cards on beryl site
[03:28] <chavo> jake_, I don't think thats supported
[03:28] <StavFX> orange you know what can i do to get beryl to work?
[03:28] <chin1> my firefox is crashing on flash player ........
[03:28] <xanith> can anyone see what i'm typing at all?
[03:28] <jake_> really?
[03:28] <StavFX> yeah, i'm using edgy 6.10
[03:29] <chin1> does the install for the installer not actually install it ot the firefox ?
[03:29] <xanith> StavFX: can u get beryl, opera, or wine to install from repositories?
[03:29] <StavFX> had to enable the extra repo's before i could install wine
[03:30] <jake_> but the site says if you have 3d then your system is supported
[03:30] <xanith> StavFX: yea i have the extra repo's enabled, but it gives me like 404 errors and GPG errors on those three things
[03:30] <xanith> StavFX: I don't know what i'm doing wrong, i enabled the same repo's in dapper and they work fine
[03:31] <StavFX> are you looking for them thru Adpet manager?
[03:31] <chin1> automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[03:31] <chin1> whats that ?
[03:32] <xanith> StavFX: they don't show up in Adept Manager or apt-get
[03:32] <malik_> whats the equilant of google earth?..........any 1 have any idea?
[03:32] <BluesKaj> google earth linux
[03:32] <malik_> :) yes i know but any other product than that?
[03:32] <BluesKaj> I have it installed
[03:33] <Cobra_Bubbles> hrm
[03:33] <Cobra_Bubbles> I wonder...
[03:33] <malik_> so have i .......im using it but it has old maps i wanted to see if some other service have updated ones
[03:33] <StavFX> sry xanith i'm very new to this myself, i don't even remember what i did to get it working, just followed a bunch of commands the more knowledgeable guys here gave me
[03:33] <Cobra_Bubbles> Do 3-foot-tal metal Wifi antennas exist?
[03:33] <BluesKaj> why malik_ , there is no other that can compete
[03:33] <Cobra_Bubbles> Preferably Mag-mount...to mount on my car
[03:33] <xanith> StavFX: haha thanks anyway, i guess i'll just have to come back at a time where more people are in here
[03:34] <Dr_willis> Cobra_Bubbles,  i dont think they need to be near that long. to be effective
[03:34] <malik_> what abt MS virtual earth................i heard abt that but cant find it on th net
[03:34] <chin1> common guys i thought this was all supposed to be seemless.... it sure does "seem less"
[03:34] <StavFX> i'm gonna try and run wow with wine now, google time.
[03:34] <Dr_willis> chin1,  that the 'to fiesty update' ?
[03:34] <malik_> whattttttttttttt fiesty out already?
[03:35] <sidnelson> hi everyone ...
[03:35] <chin1> Dr_willis:  update-flashplugin
[03:35] <Dr_willis> malik_,  there is a upgrader tool for it that is being worked on/tested
[03:35] <BluesKaj> malik_, don't there is a linux version , unless you want to run wine , that'll slow it down considerably
[03:35] <Cobra_Bubbles> I'd get INSANE FREAKING RANGE on it though
[03:35] <Dr_willis> chin1,  you are trying to update  flash from within the browser?
[03:36] <chin1> Dr_willis:  i installed that package and tried to run it and tits telling me that
[03:36] <chin1> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[03:36] <sidnelson> i install the gnome ( apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ) and the problem is that some kde programs dont open anymore like kopete
[03:36] <Dr_willis> !flash
[03:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:36] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[03:37] <sidnelson> kopete: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libDCOP.so.4: undefined symbol: _Z^6QGListC2Ev
[03:37] <sidnelson> kopete: ERROR: KUniqueApplication: Pipe closed unexpectedly.
[03:37] <gleb_> What vervion of Kubunru shall i install from te point of view of stableness and freshness (and technical support, maybe)?
[03:37] <Dr_willis> chin1,  i belive i enael the edgy-backports repository and just apt-get install it.
[03:37] <sidnelson> i have this error message
[03:37] <molly> in KDE, how do i switch the clock from 24hr to 12hr?
[03:38] <chin1> Dr_willis:  dude wtf is "enael"
[03:38] <userund> molly, right-click clock > Time date format > Time & Dates tab > Time format
[03:39] <BluesKaj> molly, rt click on clock / date &time format
[03:39] <molly> its set to HH:MM:SS, but its telling me its 21:39
[03:39] <makuseru> !KDE
[03:39] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[03:40] <molly> ahhh i wanted it pH:MM:HH:SS AMPM
[03:40] <molly> okay, thanks guys!
[03:40] <BluesKaj> molly, choose : pH:MM:SS AMPM
[03:41] <sidnelson> i mess with my kubuntu desktop :P
[03:45] <fyrmedic> Is there a command that will tell me what my MAC address is from my onboard wireless lan?
[03:46] <drmercurio> hello
[03:46] <drmercurio> know if i can update kubuntu 6.06.1 to edgy?
[03:47] <drmercurio> can i update dapper to edgy?
[03:47] <Dr_willis> !update
[03:47] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:48] <gleb_> What vervion of Kubunru better to install ?
[03:49] <Dr_willis> gleb_,  edgyeft is the latest 'stable' version.
[03:49] <Dr_willis> gleb_,  fiesty is due out in a few months
[03:50] <gleb_> Dr_willis, in april?
[03:50] <redcard> So.. I have a dell e1405 laptop.. it's resolution is supposedly 1280x800.. but the best kubuntu is doing is 1024x768,
[03:50] <redcard> I've installed 915resolution to no avail.
[03:50] <chino> does kubuntu not come with sshd running automatically ?
[03:50] <illusion> hello
[03:51] <Dr_willis> !feisty
[03:51] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:51] <Whiz2> Anyone here know how to make php5, and lighttpd work together?
[03:52] <illusion> hey anyone can help me to run java in firefox?
[03:52] <gleb_> thanks!
[03:52] <BluesKaj> gleb, Apr 19th i think
[03:55] <chino> sshd ?
[03:56] <bonbonthejon> chino: no
[03:56] <gleb_> And is there any advantages in Dapper Drake version? What's with technical support there? Is it free? Is it available in another versions?
[03:56] <chino> bonbonthejon:  can you give me the exact command to turn it on so i can give it to my freind so i can get in remotely ?
[03:57] <bonbonthejon> chino: "sudo aptitude install ssh"
[03:57] <chino> omg its  not even installed ?
[03:57] <bonbonthejon> chino: no, its one line
[03:57] <chino> will that automatically start it up right now ?
[03:58] <bonbonthejon> chino: yes, after you isntall it, it will start automatically on boot
[03:58] <chino> what about right now ?
[03:58] <NightBird> ...can you read from /dev/null?
[03:58] <bonbonthejon> chino: after you install it, yes
[03:58] <chino> NightBird:  yea
[03:58] <NightBird> chavo: what do you get? 0?
[03:59] <chino> bonbonthejon:  have you gotten flash to work ?
[03:59] <bonbonthejon> chino: yes
[03:59] <Whiz2> I need help configuring php5, and lighttpd so that they work together correctly
[03:59] <chino> bonbonthejon: im using edgy 10.6 and i installed update-flashplugin ... but when i run it fails
[04:00] <bonbonthejon> chino: there was a package in the repos something like flash unfree, thats what I used
[04:04] <ecker> i just got me a 15" and a 19" lcd and with both ubuntu/kununtu, when i reboot as soon as i pass grub the monitors go out of range until i get to gdm. anyone know why? i change the horiz/vert sync and everything in xorg. i not really sure what the deal is
[04:04] <Berto> does anyone know how to get the clock to show 12-hour time in KDE?
[04:04] <Berto> my format is set
[04:05] <Whiz2> ecker: My LCD does the same thing. As long as it comes back on when you reach the interface, it's not a problem. just ignore it
[04:06] <Berto> oh i'm guessing i have to restart KDE from what i've read in forums.  that's weak
[04:07] <chavo> Berto, you don't have to restart, and put this for 12 hour format pH:MM
[04:07] <Berto> chavo, where are you setting that format?  I set it by right-clicking clock >> Date & Time Format
[04:07] <Berto> chavo, and then it still doesn't work.  read in the forums you gotta restart kde
[04:09] <chavo> Berto, try this first dcop kicker kicker restart
[04:09] <Berto> chavo, bravo!  thanks!
[04:09] <Thehound666> any fglrx experts here? I know that I have asked before but yet to catch one here
[04:09] <Aiwuu> how i can change my keyboard model with setxkbmap?!
[04:10] <Aiwuu> setxkbmap model pc105 layout latam?
[04:10] <malik_> does any1 here any idea which webcam works for sure with kubuntu edgy?.........i have one which is i think installed by kubuntu but i get it to work it seems, if any one can help me with that or otherwise tell me which one i should buy n it will work out of box without any tweaks?
[04:10] <Aiwuu> aff, answer XD
[04:10] <ahlalo_elyon> Anyone else having a problem with extremely slow repository speeds?  apt is taking forever
[04:11] <needhelp1> hi why do i get error 15: file not found im trying to reinstall grub
[04:11] <Thehound666> ahlalo_elyon> intermittantly but not that bad.
[04:11] <Thehound666> might depend where you are
[04:11] <ahlalo_elyon> Thehound666: Hmm.. I usually download at over 100k/sec... now I'm at about 20
[04:11] <Aiwuu> how i can change my keyboard model with setxkbmap?!
[04:12] <Thehound666> I've been doing about 400 KB/sec-bad for a 20 mbit line
[04:13] <Thehound666> ok my experience with #kubuntu suggests that this much delay before an answer means noone here is one :P
[04:15] <Thehound666> I'll ask something related then but not quite the same. Anyone know an fglrx expert I should look for when idling?
[04:16] <malik_> does any1 here any idea which webcam works for sure with kubuntu edgy?.........i have one which is i think installed by kubuntu but i get it to work it seems, if any one can help me with that or otherwise tell me which one i should buy n it will work out of box without any tweaks?
[04:16] <Thehound666> was a list but I forget the link
[04:16] <Thehound666> it was on Ubuntu.com
[04:16] <malik_> any suggestion abta webcm which i can use as plug n play ?
[04:17] <Thehound666> luckily mine worked
[04:17] <Thehound666> old but good one
[04:17] <RadiantFire> another place to check is the stuff listed as supported by v4l and v4l2
[04:18] <Thehound666> not all features work but that's to be expected with any Linux distro
[04:18] <Thehound666> still beats Vista
[04:19] <Thehound666> namely color depth switching and certain digital zoom features
[04:19] <Thehound666> oh well lol
[04:22] <jake_> how can i install themes kubuntu?
[04:22] <teufel_> flash audio ouf of sync in konqueror anybody have this problem and fixed it
[04:22] <crazy_bus> do you need external programs to burn a emovix cd with k3b.  As I tried but it wouldn't work
[04:23] <chino> how do i get javascript support in elinks ?
[04:23] <teufel_> ha nobody here to help
[04:24] <BluesKaj> emovix cd , crazy_bus ...what is that ?
[04:25] <teufel_> hmm
[04:25] <crazy_bus> its a livecd which has mplayer allowing anyone to watch the video or audio files on the disk
[04:27] <BluesKaj> why do you need a live cd with mplayer on it ...whynot just use mplayer in Kubuntu ?
[04:28] <crazy_bus> I can.  But you can give the cd to other people to watch without installing codecs.  I mainly wanted to try it for fun
[04:29] <khirr> !mp3
[04:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:29] <khirr> !amarok
[04:29] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[04:31] <Bi||aBong> i install the ati driver but now i can't open Kaffeine Media Player
[04:32] <Wingz> #ubuntu
[04:38] <malik_> since when amarok started to play dvd?
[04:42] <Berto> do ubuntu repositories have a mega english font pack?
[04:42] <Berto> and i'm talking mega!
[04:42] <Dr_willis> !find chatzilla
[04:42] <ubotu> Found: mozilla-chatzilla
[04:44] <Cobra_Bubbles> @_@X
[04:44] <Cobra_Bubbles> Will Skype work in Kubuntu?
[04:44] <Knightlust> Cobra_Bubbles: yep
[04:44] <Jucato> !skype
[04:44] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[04:44] <Knightlust> been using it for months now
[04:46] <khirr> i'm newbie in linux, dunno how install firefox 2
[04:46] <teufel_> yeah i would like to know how to play wmv files in firefox
[04:46] <khirr> 6.06.1, i downloadesd brz file, but i dunno how intall this
[04:46] <Jucato> khirr: are you using Kubuntu Edgy (6.10)?
[04:46] <khirr> no
[04:46] <khirr> dapper
[04:46] <Jucato> teufel_: try installing mozilla-mplayer
[04:47] <Jucato> khirr: ah...
[04:47] <alakhia> my apologies if this is not the right place for this question ... I have 3 linux boxes and I'm tired of ssh'ing and sftp'ing and typing my password everytime. What can I do?
[04:47] <Jucato> !firefox | khirr
[04:47] <ubotu> khirr: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:47] <teufel_> ok cool
[04:47] <khirr> is bad use dapper?
[04:47] <teufel_> brb
[04:47] <Jucato> khirr: it's ok. read the page on FirefoxNewVersion
[04:47] <Kamesh> [Subject: My Trash icon changed to Desktop icon, KDE 3.3, CENTOS] . Hi all, I have noticed that my Trash icon has been changed to desktop icon (NOT the functionality) and I want to bring it back. I am not sure exactly how this has happened. But I believe I was downloading some things beyond my profile space allowed and had to forcequit some applications (not sure exactly which one caused it). Can anyone help me in bringing my Transh icon back
[04:47] <BluesKaj> teufel_, http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/
[04:48] <Jucato> Kamesh: this is #kubuntu...
[04:48] <teufel_> cant i use sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[04:49] <alakhia> any way I can setup a network mount point so I can copy and move across linux machines?
[04:49] <Jucato> teufel_: sure you can
[04:49] <Jucato> !info mozilla-mplayer | teufel_
[04:49] <ubotu> teufel_: mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31-1 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 1616 kB
[04:49] <bonbonthejon> khirr: no, dapper is fine to use
[04:49] <Jucato> teufel_: but you need to enable multiverse
[04:49] <genii> Kamesh: centos <> kubuntu
[04:49] <teufel_> cool i set up kubuntu last night but im not to sure about everything
[04:50] <alakhia> anyone?
[04:50] <teufel_> my flash audio is out of sync in konqueror
[04:50] <Kamesh> I was wondering.. this could be a kde problem and people in here might help.. I have tried in #kde, #centos and #kde-devel. No one replied to my question expect in #kde
[04:50] <genii> Kamesh It's more a generic KDE issue
[04:50] <BluesKaj> !network
[04:50] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:50] <Jucato> Kamesh: and you will definitely not be able to get an answer here... Kubuntu is using KDE 3.5.x
[04:51] <alakhia> !nfs
[04:51] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[04:51] <BluesKaj> !LAN
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:51] <Kamesh> Thanks Jucato, genii. I will wait for a while in kde and centos
[04:51] <Cobra_Bubbles> A bit lost here
[04:51] <Jucato> Kamesh: your best bet would really be centos, though
[04:52] <genii> !ask | Cobra_Bubbles
[04:52] <ubotu> Cobra_Bubbles: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:52] <Cobra_Bubbles> okay so... Skype is distributed in a Debian package, which means I need GNOME to install it?
[04:52] <teufel_> ok when i fullscreen the video its still small
[04:52] <alakhia> ah, the nfs page looks good ... :)
[04:52] <alakhia> that's what I needed.
[04:52] <teufel_> like it fullscreen but keeps the resolution and part of the video shows up at the top left
[04:52] <alakhia> thanks, guys
[04:52] <genii> Cobra_Bubbles: No, ubuntu is a debian derivitaive. It used .deb packaging
[04:53] <BluesKaj> no Cobra_Bubbles it'll install even if you use kde
[04:54] <genii> Cobra_Bubbles: To install some deb file not from a repository, try using from a konsole:  sudo dpkg -i <packagename.deb>
[04:54] <Cobra_Bubbles> thanks
[04:55] <BluesKaj> hey genii , how goes it ?
[04:55] <teufel_> so what does the video output option do in the mplayer mozilla plugin
[04:55] <chino> i installed the mozilla flash thing and youtube is telling me i need a newer version
[04:56] <genii> BluesKaj Goes alrite :) Sorta generally ill lately but I think it's some stomach flu goin round. Otherwise fine
[04:56] <BluesKaj> bummer about the stomach thing
[04:56] <Knightlust> chino: did you install flashplugin-nonfree?
[04:56] <SolidSource> chino: are you using AMD64 version of kubuntu?
[04:56] <chino> SolidSource:  no
[04:57] <chino> libflash-mozplugin
[04:57] <teufel_> cant get the mplayer to fullscreen videos
[04:57] <pete> can somebody tell me if there is a way to make the font collor in the konsole inverse of the background?
[04:57] <teufel_> mplayer plugin for mozilla
[04:57] <Knightlust> because some oss flash derivatives spits out that error
[04:57] <SolidSource> chino: then install flashplugin-nonfree as knightlust said
[04:57] <pete> (for when using a transparent background)
[04:58] <BluesKaj> genii, I installed upstart 3.7 upgrade, but now i get an fstab error when installing other pkgs , should i just ignore it ?
[04:58] <chino> yea i installed that first
[04:58] <Skuller> pete: how to use a transparent background?
[04:58] <Knightlust> pete: xterm?
[04:58] <chino> and when i ran it
[04:58] <pete> knightlust, no in konsole
[04:58] <SolidSource> chino: you may need to copy the plugin file to your "~/,mozilla/plugins
[04:58] <genii> BluesKaj: I'm not acquainted much with it, so couldn't give you any definitive answer on that
[04:58] <Knightlust> no i mean, xterm uses transparent background
[04:58] <chino> john@john-desktop:~$ sudo update-flashplugin
[04:58] <chino> automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes
[04:59] <Jucato> pete: Settings -> COnfigure Konsole -> Schema tab?
[04:59] <Knightlust> hmm, havent tried a transparent background in konsole
[04:59] <Knightlust> hehehe
[04:59] <pete> skuller - i am using the transparent background but the text is hard to read, i want to make the font color inverse of whatever my background is if possible
[04:59] <Knightlust> hmmm, i gave out a bad advise
[04:59] <BluesKaj> ok genii, it doesn't seem to be blocking any installs , i just notice it in the terminal.
[05:00] <SolidSource> chino: go into firefox and do About:plugins and if its says version 9 for flash, your good
[05:00] <pete> ahh i guess the green tint thingy will suffice for now :/
[05:00] <genii> BluesKaj Well, if you pastebin the error I'll examine it if you like
[05:00] <pete> thanks peeps.
[05:00] <chino> i just looked in the source and im successfully downloading the file
[05:00] <Skuller> pete: sorry i cant help you on your problem...i was just asking you if you could tell me how to make the terminal have a transparent backg
[05:01] <pete> skuller, for sure, just go to Settings -> Schema
[05:01] <Jucato> Skuller: Schema settings in Konsole
[05:01] <Skuller> thanx pete
[05:01] <Knightlust> chino: good luck, hope that works with youtube
[05:01] <Jucato> Skuller: you can fine tune the schema or create your own in Settings -> Configure Konsole -> Schema tab
[05:01] <chino> Knightlust:  thats what i was saying...
[05:01] <jake_> pete: how to install themes on kde?
[05:02] <chino> why doesn't it ?
[05:02] <Knightlust> chino: hold on, you're saying that it's downloading but not installing?
[05:02] <chino> Knightlust:  no it didn't work... so i looked in the source got the url and downloaded and installed it my seelf
[05:02] <pete> jake_: im not that great on linux man so it would be hard for me to tell you, i think it involves a lot of compiling and downloading random packages tho
[05:02] <Knightlust> hehehe, nice workaround
[05:02] <BluesKaj> genii, it's only one line and the last " 0" in it is in red :  /dev/partition /media/mount point ntfs-3g silent,umask=0,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0 <--- this one
[05:02] <Jucato> !changethemes | jake_
[05:02] <ubotu> jake_: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[05:03] <jake_> thanx
[05:03] <chino> Knightlust:  but youtube still doesn't work
[05:04] <Knightlust> chino: would you mind trying other browsers
[05:04] <Skuller> Jucato: thanx...it looks awesome now
[05:04] <Knightlust> just in case, we need to find out if it's a problem with flash-plugin or your current browser
[05:04] <chino> um
[05:04] <Jucato> Skuller: no problem :)
[05:04] <chino> how do i install it to konquere ?
[05:04] <Jucato> flash problems?
[05:05] <Knightlust> if flashplugin-nonfree is already installed, then it should work without a hitch in konqueror
[05:05] <chino> cant i just embed gstreamer ?
[05:05] <genii> BluesKaj: Ah, OK... not much worries there then. The last 2 numbers in fstab are for dump and fsck options
[05:05] <SolidSource> chino: just check about:plugins in firefox, and if its not there then its just as simple as copying a file
[05:05] <genii> BluesKaj: Zero means no checking
[05:06] <BluesKaj> ok thx genii , appreciate you looking :)
[05:06] <chino> Knightlust: flashplugin-nonfree just installs "an installer" which you have to run by your self
[05:06] <Jucato> chino: um.. did you install firefox from the repositories?
[05:06] <chino> SolidSource:  its there man
[05:06] <chino> Jucato:  yea
[05:06] <Jucato> chino: er no.. the flashplugin-nonfree package automatically runs the installer (you have to use apt though)
[05:06] <SolidSource> chino: ok...
[05:06] <Knightlust> brb: appointment with the dentist, be back in 30mins
[05:06] <chino> Jucato:  yea but the installer failed
[05:07] <Jucato> chino: what did you use? Adept?
[05:07] <Stalk3r> anyone using yahoo messenger in kubuntu dapper drake?
[05:07] <Skuller> Knightlust: get some sugar free candies fer me...avent eaten some in ages...:)
[05:07] <Jucato> er.. need lunch...
[05:07] <Skuller> Stalk3r: i dint know we could do that
[05:08] <BluesKaj> well, getting late for geezers ...nite all
[05:08] <khirr> how can i configure mi amarok to can listen mp3 files?
[05:08] <Stalk3r> Skuller: I'm not too sure we can, I have been able to apt-get or download all but one lib from repositories or debian
[05:08] <Skuller> !mp3 | khirr
[05:08] <ubotu> khirr: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:08] <khirr> thnx
[05:09] <Stalk3r> I was mostly curious if anyone else had been successful
[05:09] <SolidSource> chino: if the flashplugin install failed...did you try "sudo dpkg --configure -a" in order to attempt to fix?
[05:09] <chino> and firefox keeps crashing
[05:09] <Skuller> Stalk3r: you mean the 'yahoo messenger' or just an IM software with its protocol capabilities?
[05:09] <Stalk3r> Skuller: I mean the yahoo messenger
[05:10] <Skuller> Stalk3r: does it have the phone-out voice capabilities?
[05:10] <Stalk3r> there's a version for debian, which I thought would be close enpugh to work but there are dependency problems I didn't forsee.
[05:10] <Skuller> like the mzoft version
[05:10] <SolidSource> stalk3r: yahoo messenger doesn't work too well or at all in (k)ubuntu
[05:10] <chino> konqueror says the same thing.... old version of flash
[05:11] <Stalk3r> Skuller: no
[05:11] <Stalk3r> SolidSource: I'm noticing that
[05:11] <SolidSource> stalk3r: that deb file you have is for the actual Debian
[05:11] <Skuller> Yahoo Messenger's Cheap VOIP capabilities are the ONLY reason i have to switch to xp once in a while
[05:11] <SolidSource> chino: what version of kubuntu are you running?
[05:11] <chino> Skuller:  just use voipbuster.com and use your own voip client
[05:11] <Stalk3r> I wonder if I took a working installation from my wife's box and ran it under wine, would that do it?
[05:11] <chino> the new cd 10.6
[05:12] <Skuller> chino: ok i'll check it out...thanx
[05:12] <chino> why do you need yahoo messenger ?
[05:12] <chino> just use gaim.
[05:12] <Stalk3r> probably too many lib dependencies there, too
[05:12] <SolidSource> gaim isn't any better than kopete
[05:12] <Stalk3r> I was using kopete but I hate it
[05:13] <Stalk3r> it's not configurable enough and navigation is impossible, at best
[05:13] <SolidSource> chino: what version of kubuntu are you using, cause some things aren't in the dapper repos if thats what you are using
[05:13] <Stalk3r> and I'd already heard that gaim wasn't any better.
[05:13] <chino> SolidSource:  10.6
[05:14] <Stalk3r> 10.6, is that edgy?
[05:14] <SolidSource> chino: what are talking about...the latest kubuntu is 6.1
[05:14] <teufel_> i have been trying to fix this flash audio sync and im running out of ideas it worked yesterday then i reainstall kubuntu today and now it glitches
[05:14] <orange_> YES! I got macromedia flash 8 working on kubuntu
[05:14] <chino> Download Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy)
[05:15] <chino> i had it backwards....
[05:15] <chino> 10.6
[05:15] <Stalk3r> hmm, I'm using flash 9
[05:15] <chino> 6.10
[05:15] <chino> where do you get that ! ?
[05:15] <SolidSource> orange_: flash 9 is out
[05:15] <teufel_> i tried to install to 9
[05:15] <teufel_> but it says im still using 7
[05:15] <orange_> Stalk3r: Flash Professional 8...
[05:15] <SolidSource> !source-o-matic > chino
[05:15] <leafw> what command/script is the System / Quit... / Suspend issuing? I would like to call it from the command line.
[05:15] <orange_> not Flash Player
[05:15] <Stalk3r> try to watch videos on yahoo and follow the link and directions.
[05:15] <chino> i got my sources up!
[05:15] <SolidSource> chino: update your sources.list so can have access to everything
[05:15] <Stalk3r> orange_: ahhh, nice
[05:16] <skittles> hello
[05:16] <chino> unles your talking about that one 3rd party one made by some guy
[05:16] <teufel_> damn
[05:16] <skittles> just started using UBUNTU
[05:16] <orange_> use kubuntu
[05:16] <Skuller> chino: can you clear me on the voip buster and its "use your own voip' capabilities?
[05:16] <chino> Skuller:  you have been cleared
[05:17] <SolidSource> chino: no, the backports are not used by default, and there are extra repos supplied by the source-o-matic
[05:17] <chino> whats bakports ?
[05:17] <chino> !source-o-matic > chino
[05:17] <Stalk3r> oh, you have to enable the multiverse backports
[05:17] <Skuller> chino: thanx...now can you explain me more on the voip buster's "use your own voip" capabilities?
[05:17] <skittles> can i switch to Kubuntu with all the things i already have installed like Cedega with reinstalling it all?
[05:17] <chino> wtf is all this complicated stuff
[05:17] <SolidSource> skitties: you can just install KDE onto ubuntu
[05:18] <chino> Skuller:  there is nothing else to explain
[05:18] <skittles> mmmmm interesting tks Solid
[05:18] <Stalk3r> chino:  use adept, click file|manage repositories and then uncomment all the repository addresses you find.
[05:18] <SolidSource> chino: its not complicated, its just updating a file
[05:18] <skittles> whats different bout kubuntu?
[05:18] <Stalk3r> skittles: KDE
[05:18] <skittles> huh what is KDE?
[05:18] <Skuller> chino: as far as i can understand...voipbuster is a voip client on its own and has its own rates....
[05:18] <SolidSource> stalk3r: one problem with that is, the kubuntu repos are not there
[05:19] <SolidSource> stalk3r by default
[05:19] <Skuller> !kde | skittles
[05:19] <ubotu> skittles: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[05:19] <Stalk3r> skittles: Killer Desktop Environment
[05:19] <skittles> oh i see tks
[05:19] <bill57785> does Dapper Drake have cabextract already?  how can I check?
[05:19] <Stalk3r> !repositories | Stalk3r
[05:20] <chino> Skuller:  its free around half the world and you can use any voip client you want to connect to voip buster
[05:20] <skittles> can you give me the place to download kubuntu? plz
[05:21] <Stalk3r> hmm
[05:21] <Berto> what packages provide vi and vim?  My vi works terribly with my keyboard, but vim is perfect.  i'd like to remove vi
[05:22] <c0nv1ct> anyone here use superkaramba?
[05:22] <genii> !vim
[05:22] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[05:22] <Skuller> chino: oh...well unfortunately that 'half the world' doesnt include india....and i wanted to be able to use voip buster to use my yahoo messenger voip out rates n capabilities....
[05:22] <Skuller> thnx fer da info tho
[05:22] <genii> !info vim | Berto
[05:22] <SolidSource> c0nc1ct: kind of, what ya need?
[05:22] <ubotu> berto: vim: Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.0-035+1ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 718 kB, installed size 1420 kB
[05:22] <genii> Berto so just "vim" as packagename
[05:22] <c0nv1ct> SolidSource: i just need to know where it puts themes i download from "Get New Stuff"
[05:22] <Berto> gen2, yes, but what package for vi?  i like vim, want to do a remove on vi
[05:23] <c0nv1ct> SolidSource: cuz it doesnt go in ~/.Karamba
[05:23] <Berto> genii, oops that was to you
[05:23] <Berto> genii, vi is not a packagename... how do i find out in general what package Executable_Name belongs to?
[05:24] <Stalk3r> why remove vi?
[05:24] <leafw> what command/script is the System / Quit... / Suspend issuing? I would like to call it from the command line.
[05:24] <genii> Berto vim needs vi as beckend so it is more or less integrated. The vi package is a subset. You cannot remove it without vim failing
[05:24] <skittles> with kubuntu can you use mic/cam/printer?
[05:24] <Berto> genii, weird.  vi not working though, vim works great.
[05:24] <Stalk3r> leafw: sudo shutdown
[05:25] <Berto> genii, the problem is that when i use vi, the up and down arrows enter in letters B and C!!
[05:25] <Stalk3r> berto vim is installed by default in dapper, just try calling it?
[05:25] <skittles> also have urs colors for txttyping?
[05:25] <genii> Berto Those keys have not been remapped for some reason?
[05:25] <Stalk3r> ooh, good call
[05:25] <Berto> Stalk3r, yeah, i'm using vim.  From mandrake i'm used to calling the vi executable
[05:26] <Stalk3r> get used to adding the m
[05:26] <Berto> Stalk3r, so either i get used to actually typing "vim" at command line, or do a symlink
[05:26] <Berto> hahaha
[05:26] <max__> how do i change the grub boot order?
[05:26] <SolidSource> c0nc1ct: are you sure: I find mine in ~/.superkaramba
[05:26] <Berto> Stalk3r, do you know how hard of a habit that will be to break!
[05:26] <Stalk3r> symlink is another good idea
[05:26] <Stalk3r> you answered your own workaround, get on it
[05:26] <skittles> tks 4 ur help <room> L8trz
[05:26] <Stalk3r> ;)
[05:26] <Stalk3r> bye skittles
[05:27] <Berto> Stalk3r, yeh thanks... was worried about symlinkiing to vim from vi if vim REQUIRES vi... didn't want to destroy
[05:27] <SolidSource> chino: get the sources.list updated?
[05:28] <chino> yes...
[05:28] <chino> i tried every single flash package
[05:28] <chino> they all say the same thing when i go to youtube
[05:28] <Stalk3r> youtube?
[05:28] <Stalk3r> lol
[05:28] <Stalk3r> you useing firefox?
[05:28] <chino> yes
[05:28] <bordy> Anyone able to hel pme with a World of Warcraft Installation issue?
[05:28] <SolidSource> chino: and when you go into about:plugins it says flash plugin 9?
[05:28] <chino> i said no
[05:29] <Stalk3r> see the little popup blocker message at the top that says missing plugin?
[05:29] <chino> Stalk3r:  dont be funny
[05:29] <chino> SolidSource:  it does not say 9
[05:29] <Stalk3r> I'm amusing myself
[05:29] <genii> Stalk3r: :)
[05:29] <Musashiden> whats the command to configure Xorg?
[05:29] <bill57785> ok
[05:29] <Stalk3r> anyway, you have to add a symlink in your firefox file to where you installed the plugin
[05:29] <chino> 0.4.12
[05:29] <bill57785> I'm sure I sound like a n00b
[05:30] <bill57785> but I have no idea where to look, and I need to know
[05:30] <SolidSource> chino: and when you check what version of flashplugin-nonfree is intalled (trhough adept) what does it say?
[05:30] <bill57785> I downloaded a .deb file...now how do I install it?
[05:30] <Stalk3r> !dpkg
[05:30] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[05:30] <jake_> guys what's the linux version of morpheus or kazaa of windows?
[05:30] <Stalk3r> !dpkg bill57785
[05:30] <ubotu> dpkg: package maintenance system for Debian. In component main, is required. Version 1.13.22ubuntu7 (edgy), package size 1587 kB, installed size 4892 kB
[05:30] <daskreech> !apt
[05:30] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:30] <chino> <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:30] <Stalk3r> jake_: torrenty
[05:30] <Stalk3r> jake_: torrent
[05:31] <Musashiden> anybody?
[05:31] <bordy> Anyone able to help with Warcraft?
[05:31] <bill57785> ok, but what line do I type in the shell? or what program do I open?
[05:31] <SolidSource> chino: ok...did yo update sources.list with the things provided by source-o-matic?
[05:32] <Stalk3r> bill57785: dpkg -i <filename>
[05:32] <genii> bill57785: sudo dpkg -i <packagename.deb>      if you are in the directory containing the file
[05:32] <chino> SolidSource:  yes you asked me that 3 times
[05:32] <Stalk3r> oh yeah, I always forget sudo
[05:32] <Stalk3r> lol
[05:32] <genii> bill57785: If not in same dir use full pathname
[05:32] <jake_> Stalk3r: but thats a torrent downloader, i downloaded amule but its so hard to use
[05:32] <SolidSource> chino: just making because others were saying things
[05:32] <SolidSource> chino: then run in konsole "sudo apt-get update"
[05:32] <Musashiden> what is the command to reconfigure X? i know is something like Xorg-Xserver configure or something like that. anyone?
[05:32] <chino> hang on i didn't hit update though
[05:33] <bill57785> ok, thank you very much....I'm still new to linux and I rarely get an answer out of anyone...it makes it hard to learn
[05:33] <Stalk3r> Musashiden: I use the graphical config app
[05:33] <genii> Musashiden: in console, it's  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:33] <Musashiden> thank you
[05:33] <chino> oh thank god it says 9
[05:33] <Stalk3r> wtg chino
[05:33] <chino> well thats the installer package
[05:34] <chino> lets see what happens
[05:34] <Stalk3r> so who has a messenger they'd like to recommend to someone that doesn't want to use kopete or gaim?
[05:34] <SolidSource> chino: ok there you go....now if it installs and still doesn't work, just copy everything in "/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins" to "~/.mozilla/plugins
[05:35] <genii> Stalk3r: What protocols are required?
[05:35] <chino> yea its working
[05:35] <chino> ok so i installed mplayer for moz plugin should that just work too ?
[05:36] <Stalk3r> ami & yahoo are all I need, I use Konversation for IRC and Kontact for everything else
[05:36] <Stalk3r> aim*
[05:36] <SolidSource> chino: yeah, you may need to select your outputs in the config when you play your first clip in firefox
[05:36] <chino> its stupposed to embed it
[05:36] <genii> !everybuddy
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about everybuddy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <genii> Bah
[05:36] <Stalk3r> heh
[05:37] <genii> Stalk3r: Anyhow, it is an open-source option that does quite a few protocols
[05:37] <SolidSource> chino: yes but there are more than 1 engine for playing files, sometimes it doesn't automatically select one
[05:37] <Stalk3r> everybuddy?
[05:37] <chino> just to let you guys know the wirless setup tools are messed up man ...
[05:37] <SolidSource> chin: so when playing a clip, right click >> configure
[05:37] <Dr_willis> i sort of like gaim
[05:37] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:37] <chino> i had a hell of a time learning their bugs
[05:38] <genii> Yes, found the package which contains it now, ayttm
[05:38] <genii> !ayttm
[05:38] <Dr_willis> The state of Wireless Networking in general.. is very messed up.
[05:38] <ubotu> ayttm: Universal Instant Messaging Client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.6+34-1 (edgy), package size 1801 kB, installed size 4964 kB
[05:38] <SolidSource> chino: wireless doesn't really work yet...not all the time at least
[05:38] <chino> yea but the menu... it self... was broken
[05:38] <Dr_willis> which menu where?
[05:38] <chino> let me explain
[05:38] <Stalk3r> genii: ty
[05:38] <genii> Stalk3r: np
[05:39] <Dr_willis> it pays on irc, to be verbose, yet concise in describing your  issues. :)
[05:39] <Cobra-Bubbles> My komyootor no work nao! How do I shot web?
[05:40] <chino> if i click on the kde system settings button and go to networking and then click administration mode it turns all grayed out and i cant see no buttons within the red border.... so i had to use 'sudo' to run systemsettings.... then once in there it doens't let you remove a network key that is in allready... you have to close it and reload it... then if you put hexidecimal... after it saves it still says ascii even though its really usin
[05:40] <SolidSource> cobra-bubbles: what?
[05:40] <kouran_> how do i add a program to the k menu?
[05:40] <SolidSource> cobra-bubbles: you talking about konqueror?
[05:41] <kouran_> i downaloaded and installed bluej java ide and it can only be launched from the terminal..
[05:41] <Dr_willis> wow ayttm  is sort of UGLY.. but it works..
[05:41] <johnnyd> anyone know of howto's for getting a kubuntu 610 vmware guest to talk to an xp host?
[05:41] <Dr_willis> chino,  try 'maxamizing' that window.. there maybe some 'administrator mode' buttons that are hidden at the bottom. (its a bit of a bug that pops up at times)
[05:42] <Dr_willis> chino,  or are you saying thees NO buttons anywhere?
[05:42] <Dr_willis> the KDE control-center-settings stuff is undergoing work all the time. I hear with kde4 its supposed to be much improved.
[05:42] <genii> Dr_willis: Yeah I remember it's interface was not nice but it worked fine for me on MSN and ICQ
[05:43] <Dr_willis> genii,  yea.. 'not nice' the fonts are downright.. well.. nasty. :) heh
[05:43] <chino> Dr_willis:  he has a small screen....................
[05:44] <chino> Dr_willis:  thats what i just said if you click on administration mode it gets the red border and everything inside of the red border has turned into a gtk gray colored plane with no buttons
[05:44] <Dr_willis> i wonder what that Nokia 880 is using. I think it has a port of Gaim to it.
[05:44] <Dr_willis> chino,  ive totally given up on wireless under windows and linux.. You dont want toknow the fighting ive had to do with some windows machines the last few months. ;)
[05:44] <chino> um
[05:45] <chino> i hope your not trying to think im a windows user
[05:45] <SolidSource> Dr_willis: wireless is easy on some other distros
[05:45] <johnnyd> anyone know of howto's for getting a kubuntu 610 vmware guest to talk to a xp host?
[05:45] <chino> im telling you guys so you can know... because your probably develoeprs some of you
[05:45] <Dr_willis> SolidSource,  i find wireless being 'easy' can be a rather big crap shoot. :)
[05:45] <chino> SolidSource:  what other distros
[05:46] <Dr_willis> wilress seems to be a lot easier.. depending on what drivers the wireless cards are using.
[05:46] <Cobra-Bubbles> hrm
[05:46] <chino> ok ok ok
[05:46] <Cobra-Bubbles> Does Skype support Webcams in the Debian build?/
[05:46] <chino> my point was not "wireless support in linux"
[05:46] <SolidSource> Dr_willis: well, I haven't had problems in windows with wireless (except making sure the security settings are matched with router and that I am not using windows to manage wireless)
[05:46] <chino> my point was "kubuntu gui programs are on crack"
[05:46] <genii> Dr_willis: Do you know what chipset the Nokia uses? I'm interested in ARM processing for instance
[05:46] <chino> "fyi"
[05:46] <SolidSource> chino: fedora and SuSE have been the best when it comes to wireless from my experience
[05:47] <chino> scary anything rpm based makes me shit
[05:47] <Dr_willis> SolidSource,  yea. you bring up an interesting point.. why shouldent one use windows to manage the wirless.. vs the cards own (sometimes very silly) controls.. but we dont want to slap on windows too much.
[05:47] <Stalk3r> my brother likes gentoo and I think he's wireless
[05:48] <Dr_willis> are not the 'ra' chipset wilress cards supposed to have fully gpl'd drivers?  i even hear of issues with them, :(
[05:48] <Dr_willis> i dont even want to get started on every wireless manafacturer adding new gimmics to their cards and otehr gizmos that seem to conflict with others, or just confuse people.
[05:48] <daskreech> bordy: sup?
[05:48] <SolidSource> Dr_willis: windows has too many restrictions to custom settings...and its way to clumsy, not to mention it doesn't always list all the wireless netowrks in the area. Also, the cards specific program is designed to work better with the card itself
[05:48] <Dr_willis> and really dont get me started on the lame wireless on the Nintendo DS. :)
[05:49] <Cobra-Bubbles> Dr_willis: Another reason I switched from Windows... Nero, IE, Google, and Yahoo loved to fight over which one was my Operating System
[05:49] <daskreech> Stalk3r: Miranda
[05:49] <Dr_willis> SolidSource,  yea. ive noticed a few of that.. ive also noticed that  way to many wireless cards' interface programs.. toss out  'gui design school fundamentls' and have some really.... weird interfaces at times.. heh..
[05:49] <Cobra-Bubbles> DS has wifi upgrade hacks
[05:49] <Dr_willis> Cobra-Bubbles,  thats good to hear..
[05:50] <Dr_willis> Yahoo Seems to like to sneak in.. Google is slowly creeping in like the blob... :)
[05:50] <Dr_willis> NERO - is just growing to big. heh.
[05:50] <SolidSource> Dr_willis: MSI program has the best and easiest
[05:50] <manchicken> !offtopic
[05:50] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:50] <manchicken> :)
[05:50] <Dr_willis> SolidSource,  you find msi wireless cards work better under linux?
[05:51] <Dr_willis> I tend to stick with Linksys on the few wireless thangs i have.   since they seem to work together better.
[05:51] <Cobra-Bubbles> Better than Broadcom
[05:52] <SolidSource> Dr_willis: haven't tested MSI and linux (though I could easily do it, but I have had few problems with Intel cards (in Fedora and SuSE at least)
[05:52] <johnnyd>  anyone know of howto's for getting a kubuntu 610 vmware guest to talk to an xp host?
[05:52] <Dr_willis> My laptop has broadcom.. i actually got wireless working with it the other day under ubuntu.
[05:52] <bordy> daskreech: I am havin some trouble... i followed the instructions in the ubuntu community help, and i copied my WoW Files from the windows partition... but I am getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9976/
[05:52] <Dr_willis> johnnyd,  running ubuntu 6.10 in vmware under windows xp?
[05:52] <johnnyd> yes
[05:53] <genii> Orinoco used to be awesome
[05:53] <peanutb> I think it depends on the card model, i still havent gotten my linksys working. I just bought a cheap atheros based card.
[05:53] <Dr_willis> johnnyd,  samba should let the 2 see shares and so forth... same as if there were 2 machines.
[05:53] <SolidSource> peanutb: external cards never work as well as internal
[05:53] <Dr_willis> johnnyd,  winscp is good for gettting files around also using ssh.
[05:53] <SolidSource> peanutb: and linksys is crap anyway
[05:53] <Dr_willis> johnnyd,  assuming you got the network settings for the vmware machine set right that is...
[05:54] <peanutb> SolidSource, Its hard enough getting linksys cards to work in windows, Linux is a whole different story.
[05:55] <Cobra-Bubbles> shame
[05:55] <Cobra-Bubbles> Linksys routers are fantastic
[05:55] <johnnyd> I can see the "neighborhood" and the "xp" machine but clicking on the icon results in the xp samba sharr not existing
[05:55] <SolidSource> peanutb: again Linksys all around sucks
[05:55] <Dr_willis> of course ive seen companies have identically named cards with different 'versions' that use entirely different chipsets. :()
[05:55] <SolidSource> cobra-bubbles: Belkin and D-link absolutely DESTROY linksys
[05:56] <chino> kfrb is nto working
[05:56] <Dr_willis> heh - i got a few dlink network cards. (normal wired)  really havent used any enoggh to come to any conclusions. they all seem to work well.
[05:56] <eric> hey how can i make my screen resolution smaller...i know it goes smaller but its not listed
[05:56] <Cobra-Bubbles> please... D-Link is a poor man's Linksys
[05:57] <Dr_willis> !info  krandrtray
[05:57] <ubotu> Package krandrtray does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[05:57] <Dr_willis> hmm
[05:57] <Dr_willis> !find  krandrtray
[05:57] <ubotu> File krandrtray found in kcontrol, kde4base, kdebase-dbg
[05:57] <SolidSource> Dr_willis: I went through 3 Linksys routers and tested several Belkin, before settling on my D-link gaming router for its features
[05:57] <hole> how can i edit grub from within gnome
[05:57] <hole> grub menu i measn
[05:58] <Dr_willis> SolidSource,  i just got a little mini-linksys router. :) was only $30 does what i need.. i guess it would be nice to have more controll. but so far this thing has been set it and forget it.
[05:58] <Dr_willis> !grub
[05:58] <hole> measn-s=mean
[05:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:58] <SolidSource> cobra-bubbles: linksys is unstable and barely works.
[05:58] <Dr_willis> hole,  you could always go hardkore and edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file (BACK IT UP FIRST!)
[05:59] <hole> no i just have 3 kernel choices so i want to take 2 of emoff
[05:59] <Dr_willis> hole,  thats trivial. :)
[05:59] <hole> ??
[05:59] <Dr_willis> hole,  one setting in that file dictates the # of kernels to show.. edit that line. then rerun 'sudo update-grub'
[06:00] <hole> oh and one more thing what are ethernet switches used for
[06:00] <Dr_willis> # alternative=false               - Hides the 'alternate' boot entrys.  and        # howmany=all   - dictates the # of entrys to show.
[06:00] <dystopianray> what happened to the english hyphenation dictionaries for openoffice ?
[06:00] <hole> is it like a hub?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> Note that you Leave those # comments in there.. update-grub uses them.
[06:01] <Dr_willis> a switch is  'smarter' then a hub. I belive
[06:01] <Dr_willis> less packet colision and so forth.. more efficneit
[06:01] <hole> does that mean it works like a hub?
[06:01] <Dr_willis> it is a smarter hub.
[06:01] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:01] <Dr_willis> I guess is the proper term?
[06:01] <Dr_willis> I aint even seen hubs in stores lately.
[06:02] <hole> ok coool so i can play lan quake1,2,3
[06:02] <Dr_willis> perhaps i juat havent noticed.
[06:02] <skittles> hi
[06:02] <hole> and starcraft
[06:02] <Dr_willis> a switch will give better gameplay/pings/lesslag then a hub.
[06:02] <SolidSource> Dr_willis: err...you just reminded me I need to get another switch to expand my network
[06:02] <hole> awesome
[06:02] <skittles> i play wow and everquest1
[06:02] <Dr_willis> SolidSource,  heh - slowly upgrading to gigabit here.
[06:02] <SolidSource> Dr_willis: already there..just ran out of ports
[06:03] <Dr_willis> SolidSource,  heh. Yep.  another reson wireless seems such a step backwards. :()
[06:03] <skittles> how do  i set my colors for chat like as in typing words, ect.
[06:03] <Dr_willis> skittles,  colors? where?
[06:04] <SolidSource> Dr_willis: hate using wireless....working in bursts of info instead of a constant stream sucks
[06:04] <skittles> not sure dr.willis, i want to know how
[06:04] <hole> ok dr_willis is there any way i can get you to ssh in to my pc and fis that i am really noid about editing that file
[06:04] <bill57785> why when I type "svn cat https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/hackndev/linux4palm/tools/unpdb.py > unpdb.py" does it tell me "bash: svn: command not found"?
[06:04] <Dr_willis> skittles,  irc colors are dictated by the irc client. WE dont see your colors.. our clients treat differnt messages/things differntly
[06:04] <Dr_willis> hole,  not really its 1 am here..
[06:04] <Dr_willis> hole,  back the thing up.. use 'sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst and edit 2 lines.
[06:04] <skittles> well i have boring BLACK colors for my typing
[06:05] <Dr_willis> hole,  or if you are that scared.. dont mess with it..
[06:05] <hole> i dont know what to put instead
[06:05] <Dr_willis> skittles,  black where? :) thers seveal dozen irc clients out...
[06:05] <bill57785> anyone?
[06:05] <Cobra-Bubbles> Nobody answered me :-p
[06:05] <hole> can i name a specific kernel?
[06:05] <skittles> oh never mind...i'll just sit and read what every1 says
[06:05] <Dr_willis> hole,  the # of entrys to show.. ie: 1 or 2.. and have it hide the alternatve entrys if you really want to slim it down.
[06:05] <SolidSource> Cobra-Bubbles: what was the question?
[06:06] <Cobra-Bubbles> Just this..  Figures there'd be one single short-coming
[06:06] <hole> the most recent?
[06:06] <skittles> i have a white background with blk txt
[06:07] <skittles> so very boring :(
[06:07] <Dr_willis> hole,  you rerun 'sudo update-grub' and it rewrites the menu.lst and will show the most recent one. Makes sence eh?
[06:07] <Dr_willis> skittles,  un huh.. sure...
[06:07] <hole> oooh ok
[06:07] <Dr_willis> skittles,  set your irc client up differently.. we wont see any differance. :)
[06:07] <skittles> oic now dr.willis calling me a lier now tks
[06:08] <Cobra-Bubbles> K... What do I need to emulate Windows XP, or think a Dual-Boot setup would work better?
[06:08] <Dr_willis> skittles,  about what?  boaring text? gesh.. what next.. you want web cams in here also? :)
[06:08] <SolidSource> Cobra-Bubbles: most video conferencing requires seperate application, kopete has just barely started doing video
[06:08] <Dr_willis> Cobra-Bubbles,  vmware can handle xp i hear..
[06:08] <hole> what was the name of that file again?
[06:08] <SolidSource> Cobra-Bubbles: VMware is best
[06:08] <genii> Cobra-Bubbles: dual-boot is beetr than trying to run XP under linux
[06:08] <Dr_willis> !grub
[06:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:08] <Knightlust> Cobra_Bubbles: Xen if you want virtualization, but i strongly suggest a dual-boot, unless you have a pretty good hardware
[06:09] <Dr_willis> hole,  /boot/grub/menu.lst (back it up!)
[06:09] <Knightlust> and i mean $3000 +++ hardware
[06:09] <skittles> DR.WILLIS i SAID BLK TXT is Boring
[06:09] <hole> k
[06:09] <bill57785>  why when I type "svn cat https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/hackndev/linux4palm/tools/unpdb.py > unpdb.py" does it tell me "bash: svn: command not found"?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> skittles,  you perfer green?
[06:09] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:10] <skittles> wow i come in this room to GET some HELP, then dr.willis gives me a hard time, tks, dr.willis
[06:10] <genii> bill57785: install the svn client. You can find one by sudo apt-cache search svn|grep client
[06:10] <Cobra-Bubbles> hrm
[06:10] <pete> hey im just curious - what do you guys use to rip flash videos off of sites like youtube?
[06:10] <bill57785> ok
[06:10] <Cobra-Bubbles> I wonder if doing a dual-boot would be highly difficult
[06:10] <Dr_willis> skittles,   you asked a question? i must of missed it.. i though you where just chatting.
[06:10] <SolidSource> skittles: thats just being tedious, what difference does the color of the text make?
[06:10] <Knightlust> pete: video downloader extension for firefox
[06:10] <skittles> and i have ony have had UBUNTU installed less than a WK
[06:10] <genii> bill57785: Actually it looks like you put 2 commands in that line. svn cat <-- both commands
[06:10] <chino> whats a safe upgrade ?
[06:11] <Knightlust> chino, how was it?
[06:11] <chino> what ?
[06:11] <Knightlust> i mean, youtube
[06:11] <bill57785> lol
[06:11] <bill57785> well I've tried svn before anyways
[06:11] <pete> knightlust-  ty
[06:11] <bill57785> on other things
[06:11] <Dr_willis> skittles,  i was explainign to you that Unlike the stuff you see in some IM clients. your fonts wont affect us.  SOme people seem to think that irc works just like YahooMessenger.
[06:11] <Knightlust> did it work?
[06:11] <pete> talking to me?
[06:11] <bill57785> and it didn't work...so I'll go ahead and install this
[06:11] <Cobra-Bubbles> Not worth the trouble. I'll jsut emulate Windows XP
[06:11] <chino> Knightlust:  what work ?
[06:12] <skittles> i know thast drwillis duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh this isn't yahoo
[06:12] <SolidSource> chino: safe upgrade may hold certain packages back in order to prevent broken packages
[06:12] <Cobra-Bubbles> I've got 2.1 Gigahertz and a gigabyte of RAM, I think I cna handle it
[06:12] <Dr_willis> Cobra-Bubbles,  you do have a spare XP serial #?
[06:12] <Knightlust> chino: your flash plugin on youtube
[06:12] <chino> ys
[06:12] <chino> where have you been ?
[06:12] <chino> lol
[06:12] <Cobra-Bubbles> I've got one sitting on the bottom of a torn-up old laptop, but it's faded
[06:12] <Knightlust> chino: dentist appointment. congratulations
[06:12] <Cobra-Bubbles> I could always use more
[06:12] <genii> Cobra-Bubbles: Even on a system like that, it will pretty much choke it. You need something more like a quadcore for it to be almost bearable
[06:12] <Dr_willis> Cobra-Bubbles,  you may need to activate the Emulated XP machine.. and using the same serial # on vmware and a running machine can cuse issues.
[06:13] <SolidSource> genii: no you don't
[06:13] <Cobra-Bubbles> Yeah. I coudl definately use some XP keyage
[06:13] <bill57785> ok
[06:13] <Dr_willis> Cobra-Bubbles,  you may want to try WIndowsME or Windows98/SE first.
[06:13] <Minataku> Heya, genii :D
[06:13] <Dr_willis> Cobra-Bubbles,  depending on what tasks you are wanting to do with it
[06:13] <bill57785> I ran the command you gave me, and it just went to another command line after I entered my password
[06:13] <skittles> windows Me has too many problems i should know just got rid of it
[06:13] <genii> SolidSource: Well, any cpu so far single core I found it horrible under at least 3.2
[06:14] <SolidSource> Cobra-Bubbles: you may try just using WINE or Crossover to run windows apps in linux
[06:14] <genii> Minataku: Heys
[06:14] <eric> how do I set up my other hd to mount automatically?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> windowsME has all the drivers for a Vmware Machine included. whichmakes it better for use under vmware then 98 or SE.
[06:14] <Minataku> genii: Any news on my free crap? XD
[06:14] <Cobra-Bubbles> hrm... If WINE does Skype properly I'll be set.
[06:14] <SolidSource> genii: I use VMware on a 2.3Ghtz AMD64 X2 and a gig of RAM no problem
[06:14] <Minataku> Skype has a native version
[06:14] <Cobra-Bubbles> Most of what I was running in Windows was open-source, which was funny
[06:14] <VR_> but it looks terrible :(
[06:14] <Cobra-Bubbles> Minataku: Without webcam support
[06:14] <teufel_> can someone help me for a min
[06:14] <skittles> let see now
[06:15] <Knightlust> Cobra-Bubbles: Skype works well in Linux, no need to use WINE or VMWare
[06:15] <bill57785> did anyone read my message?
[06:15] <Knightlust> ohhh, webcam
[06:15] <SolidSource> Minataku: skype in linux doesn't have video support like many other things
[06:15] <skittles> and now....
[06:15] <teufel_> i need help installing a file .tar.bz2
[06:15] <genii> SolidSource Ah, vmware is not so bad. I meant for him to run some emulation UNDER linux
[06:15] <Knightlust> well actually my webcam works in linux, it's a genius videoexpress v2
[06:15] <Dr_willis> I want to know when did all the messaging and voice chat stuff suddendly HAVE to have video also? :)
[06:15] <Knightlust> and it works well on both skype and kopete
[06:15] <bill57785> anyone?
[06:15] <Minataku> I can't stand any of those IM things
[06:15] <Dr_willis> teufel_,  and whats this .tar.gz file supposed to be?
[06:15] <Minataku> Dr_willis: It's called featuritis
[06:16] <Cobra-Bubbles> Look I know this really hot girl and she likes to strip for me, Webcam support is a MUST
[06:16] <SolidSource> genii: well I didn't see anyone saying that...thought all agreed on VMware or similar
[06:16] <Dr_willis> Cobra-Bubbles,  you been sleeping at the keyboard again? :)
[06:16] <Knightlust> Cobra-Bubbles: understood
[06:16] <Cobra-Bubbles> yup
[06:16] <Minataku> Features go up, stability goes down, people don't care because they're all used to Windows
[06:16] <Dr_willis> Cobra-Bubbles,  i bet shes an FBI agent! :)
[06:16] <Knightlust> hehehe
[06:16] <bill57785> well if anyone cares, this is what I'm trying to do: http://trac.hackndev.com/projects/palmld/wiki/ReinstallingPalmOS
[06:16] <Cobra-Bubbles> Nah. I've known her since she was 17 and she's like 22 now.
[06:16] <Knightlust> Cobra-Bubbles: what's your webcam
[06:16] <bill57785> only to a compact flash card
[06:16] <teufel_> someone help me with install a program that uses tar.bz2 ext
[06:16] <Cobra-Bubbles> I don't own a webcam
[06:16] <bill57785> and I'm still not getting svn to install
[06:16] <Knightlust> coz I've tried 2 webcams and it just works on my system
[06:16] <Dr_willis> whats scarier - the fact she wants strip, or the fact she actualy likes you. :)
[06:17] <Knightlust> ohh, you want to view webcam
[06:17] <Cobra-Bubbles> Probably the second
[06:17] <teufel_> someone help me with install a program that uses tar.bz2 ext
[06:17] <Knightlust> should work.. mine
[06:17] <Dr_willis> teufel_,  theres a dozen + ways stuff like that can be installed.. whats the program. and have you checked its homepage/install docs yet?
[06:17] <Jucato> teufel_: what program is it? have you tried searching the repositories first?
[06:17] <teufel_> yeah
[06:17] <SolidSource> teufel_: its already installed (ARK)...its just a compressed file like ZIP
[06:17] <Knightlust> *mine's working without a hitch, i can see webcams
[06:17] <teufel_> i tried ark
[06:17] <GeorgeMoney> Hello, I saw i had python default installed in my kubuntu, but really had no use for it, so I did an apt-get remove python. This also removed all my adept stuff for some reason. Is there any way i can get all my adept programs back without python (but if they really need python, that's fine) but i just want them back...
[06:18] <Dr_willis> I perfer the shell and 'unp'
[06:18] <teufel_> like its a game
[06:18] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[06:18] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[06:18] <peanutb> teufel_, what program?
[06:18] <Dr_willis> peanutb,  :) thats 5 times now weve asked. heh
[06:18] <teufel_> postal2
[06:18] <Jucato> teufel_: .tar.gz is the .zip and .rar of Linux
[06:18] <Jucato> or .tar.bz2
[06:18] <teufel_> ok
[06:18] <bill57785> seriously guys
[06:18] <teufel_> i tried to unpack it
[06:18] <bill57785> I tired what you said
[06:18] <bill57785> I did the apt-get for svn
[06:18] <bill57785> it asked my password
[06:19] <bill57785> I entered it, then it just went to the next command line and didn't install anything
[06:19] <SolidSource> teufel_: it could be a broken file
[06:19] <Dr_willis> teufel_,  thats an old game.. if you have a 'full linux' version.  it may not even work under some of the newer disrtos..    also it could just be the postal linux binaries that need the actual comercial game data from the cd.
[06:19] <teufel_> ok
[06:19] <teufel_> screw that then
[06:19] <Jucato> bill57785: what are you trying to install?
[06:19] <genii> bill57785: You may need to open up one of the repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:19] <teufel_> dont feel like reloading kubuntu
[06:19] <Dr_willis> teufel_,  use the shell and try to upack it.. :) or go try some newer games. thers some nice free ones out now.
[06:20] <bill57785> man I hate being a n00b at linux
[06:20] <teufel_> free shooters
[06:20] <Dr_willis> teufel_,  why would you have to reload kubuntu?
[06:20] <bill57785> open up the repositories?
[06:20] <bill57785> http://trac.hackndev.com/projects/palmld/wiki/ReinstallingPalmOS
[06:20] <bill57785> that is what I'm trying to do
[06:20] <chino>  i hope this safe update doesn't break anything
[06:20] <teufel_> i broke my ati driver last night coundnt fix it
[06:20] <Dr_willis> teufel_,  RTCW:ET is a classic, then theres Savage thats out for free now. and Tremulus,
[06:20] <chino> i know how your updating records are
[06:20] <bill57785> and I'm at the part that I need to use the svn command to get a tool for combining the special .zip files
[06:20] <Dr_willis> teufel_,  the quake3 code is now open, so thers a lot of work on free games using it.
[06:20] <teufel_> return to castle wolfensten ?
[06:21] <Dr_willis> teufel_,  RTCW = return to castle wolf..   RTCW:ET = the free multiplayer only expansion
[06:21] <teufel_> hells yeah
[06:21] <Dr_willis> both are great. :)
[06:21] <teufel_> well i must have it
[06:21] <Dr_willis> work grat on low end box's also.. and lots of people still playingit.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> I need to find my RTCW cd's
[06:22] <teufel_> anyplace where i can get these
[06:22] <Dr_willis> be sure to install xqf also
[06:22] <Dr_willis> !info xqf
[06:22] <ubotu> xqf: X-based Quake Server Browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.4-2 (edgy), package size 411 kB, installed size 1728 kB
[06:22] <Dr_willis> !games
[06:22] <teufel_> or do they have offical sites
[06:22] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[06:22] <bill57785> anyone? I'm trying to get this Palm LifeDrive fixed for my youth group leader because he needs it and it is midnight here
[06:22] <bill57785> and I have school tomorrow
[06:22] <teufel_> hells yea
[06:22] <Dr_willis> teufel_,  thers official planetrtcw or whateger sites.. that have the downloads.
[06:22] <Dr_willis> teufel_,  check out "savage" for a decent game also.
[06:23] <teufel_> im on it
[06:23] <teufel_> thanx
[06:23] <Dr_willis> www.evolvedclan.com i thinkis the site for that
[06:23] <Dr_willis> Savage2 is DUE out soon for Linux - Comercial Game. :) watch for it.
[06:24] <Dr_willis> also "Darwinia" has a linux port. and ive seen it in the bargin bins for $10 or so. :) a must get if you find it.
[06:24] <bill57785> how do I install svn?
[06:24] <Dr_willis> a RTS game with a bit of a twist.
[06:24] <genii> bill57785: You may need to put "subversion" instead of "svn" in the command.
[06:24] <Jucato> bill57785: sudo apt-get install subversion
[06:24] <bill57785> ok, thanks I'll try it
[06:24] <genii> bill57785: eg: sudo apt-get install subversion
[06:24] <Dr_willis> well night all.
[06:25] <bill57785> "Couldn't find package subversion"
[06:25] <Dr_willis> skittles dident say goodbye.. :()
[06:25] <bill57785> something to do with those repositories, I know
[06:25] <bill57785> but I dont get the whole repository thing
[06:26] <bill57785> genii?
[06:27] <genii> bill57785: There is a file /etc/apt/sources.list whichj contains a list of sites to contact for downloads of packages to install. They have subdirectories such as main universe and such. Some repositories are not enabled by default for various reasons
[06:28] <Cobra-Bubbles> yum
[06:28] <Cobra-Bubbles> Koolaid+Carbon=Win
[06:28] <genii> bill57785: Which dist of ubuntu do you have? dapper edgy etc
[06:28] <Minataku> genii: Thanks for the news and sorry for the late reply XD
[06:28] <bill57785> dapper
[06:29] <genii> bill57785: So in the file described, urls should look something like: deb http://countrycode.archive.ubuntu.com/dists/dapper       then some specific dirs there to include
[06:30] <genii> !info subversion dapper
[06:30] <ubotu> subversion: advanced version control system (aka. svn). In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.1-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 198 kB, installed size 3016 kB
[06:31] <genii> bill57785: So the bot tells us the package is in "main" repository which should be there by default
[06:32] <genii> bill57785: Please try first:   sudo apt-get update    then the other command
[06:32] <Stalk3r> well, kopete rules compared to ayttm
[06:32] <Cobra-Bubbles> O_Ox I killed Adept Manager by accident...damnit
[06:32] <Stalk3r> g'night everyone
[06:32] <genii> eg sudo apt-get install subversion
[06:32] <Cobra-Bubbles> And now...it won't reopen
[06:33] <Cobra-Bubbles> rebooting tiiime!
[06:33] <bill57785> the main repository isnt there though, I dont think
[06:33] <bill57785> unless that is the backports
[06:33] <SolidSource> Cobra-Bubbles: what won't open?
[06:34] <genii> bill57785: No, backports is another location.
[06:34] <bill57785> well thats what I thought
[06:34] <bill57785> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9978/
[06:35] <genii> bill57785: Anyhow, if you use something like  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list         you can open the file in root mode and uncomment all the lines which start with # deb   then save it, try again   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install subversion
[06:35] <SolidSource> jucato: you know the run command for running a script in konsole? trying to create a script I made
[06:36] <SolidSource> jucato: a link to a script
[06:36] <genii> bill57785: OK, reading
[06:36] <Jucato> SolidSource: ./filename
[06:36] <bill57785> thanks ^_^
[06:36] <SolidSource> jucato: tried...doesn't work
[06:36] <Jucato> SolidSource: depends on what script though.. that's for a bash script and an executable...
[06:36] <Jucato> SolidSource: sh ./filename ?
[06:36] <Jucato> (no ?)
[06:37] <SolidSource> jucato: tried that, I need it so that in opens konsole and runs the script
[06:37] <Jucato> SolidSource: aah.. hm... "konsole -e filename" I think... not entirely sure
[06:37] <genii> bill57785: remove the # from before every line which has # deb  to start it by using nano in root mode as I said above. then save the file, run:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install subversion
[06:38] <bill57785> k
[06:38] <SolidSource> Jucato: yay...that was it
[06:40] <SolidSource> Cobra-Bubbles: what program wouldn't open?
[06:40] <bill57785> ok, editted it, what do I press to save?
[06:40] <Cobra_Bubbles> adept MAnager
[06:40] <Cobra_Bubbles> And...still won't
[06:40] <genii> bill57785: ctrl-x  then Y to save it
[06:41] <bill57785> ok...wasn't sure what the ^ was for
[06:41] <max_> how do i know if i have edgy or fiesty
[06:41] <Cobra_Bubbles> I need to close the process
[06:41] <SolidSource> Cobra-Bubbles: then you just try again...it happens cause kdesu/sudo gets stuck sometimes
[06:42] <Cobra_Bubbles> now it's opening Adept Manager in Red-Only Mode
[06:42] <SolidSource> Cobra-Bubbles: close all adept
[06:42] <Cobra_Bubbles> Yeah...How?
[06:43] <SolidSource> Cobra-Bubbles: in kkonsole run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[06:43] <max_> how do i know if i have edgy or fiesty?
[06:43] <Jucato> max_: type "lsb_release -a" in Konsole
[06:43] <bill57785> ok, subversion installed fine
[06:43] <SolidSource> max_: feisty hasn't been realed yet
[06:44] <genii> bill57785: I'm sort of away from keyboard maybe 3-5 minutes but returning
[06:44] <max_> i know
[06:44] <SolidSource> released
[06:44] <max_> i did an upgrade
[06:44] <bill57785> ok, its fine
[06:44] <max_> wanted to make sure it worked
[06:44] <Cobra_Bubbles> Hey, there we go
[06:44] <Cobra_Bubbles> Now...To try out WINE
[06:45] <max_> which it did
[06:45] <SolidSource> max_: easiest way to look is merely by looks...feisty shutdown/logout dialog is way different
[06:45] <Skuller> Cobra_Bubbles: also try out !adeptfix when it wont open
[06:46] <Skuller> !adeptfix | Cobra_Bubbles
[06:46] <ubotu> Cobra_Bubbles: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:46] <max_> SolidSource: is it? *checks* im trying to find some changes in it
[06:46] <SolidSource> skuller: told him
[06:46] <Skuller> SolidSource: sorry..dint notice
[06:47] <SolidSource> max_: yes, its a little more visual
[06:47] <Cobra_Bubbles> hrm, now it won't download WINE
[06:47] <max_> i saw, i like it
[06:47] <max_> do you know any othrt visual changes?
[06:47] <SolidSource> Skuller: just don't want ya to go into more details without need
[06:47] <SolidSource> max_: not right off the bat
[06:48] <Skuller> SolidSource: lol..i dont think i am in a position yet to go into any details with kubuntu usage...consideering my limited knowledge earned from people like you here
[06:49] <Skuller> *considering my little knowledge, and that also is credited to people like you here
[06:49] <Cobra_Bubbles> I go to download WINE with adept and get this.. "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages. "
[06:49] <SolidSource> skuller: lol, beauty of linus is that is easy to learn anyway
[06:49] <SolidSource> linux*
[06:50] <genii> bill57785: OK, back. Did you try to continue with the instructions you were originally trying then?
[06:50] <SolidSource> Cobra-Bubbles: install using konsole
[06:50] <Skuller> SolidSource: but still requires people with higher knowledge, like you, to teach
[06:50] <bill57785> yes