[07:26] <klekkus> but as ive said, im a total newb, just immigrated from windows to kubuntu, and i dont understand what he means with : BTW, as you can see, this is a small shellscript. I've made it so it starts when loading KDE. Just place a link in ~/.kde/Autostart with "kdesu reloadwirelessmodules.sh" or something similar).
[07:26] <Trist_an> Dr_willis, I had a customized K menu and now I would like to know where the file is stored...
[07:26] <jel> klekkus: it's just a small list of commands that gets run when you log in.
[07:27] <klekkus> jel: i know, but how do i just place a link in /home/klekkus/.kde/Autostart with "kdesu reloadwirelessmodules.sh" or something similar?
[07:27] <gsuveg> re
[07:28] <gsuveg> i dont have wifi in knetworkmagager :(
[07:29] <klekkus> anyone want to help me doing that?
[07:29] <Daskreech2_> jdawiz: no KDM?
[07:30] <jdawiz> well.  when i went to uninstall avahi I saw some libraries with that in name
[07:30] <jdawiz> so I removed them too
[07:30] <Daskreech2_> jdawiz: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and you should be good
[07:30] <jdawiz> when I did that it started to remove lotsa other things.  like kontact, kmail, kdm
[07:32] <mariano> can some one help me get my usb sound card working
[07:32] <macconline> hi. i want see version of kde, per terminal??
[07:33] <macconline> how i do this?
[07:33] <trappist> macconline: kde-config -v
[07:33] <mariano> It is not being read by kubuntu. When I was using suse 10.1 I had to install a firmware loader with ./configure, make, make install.
[07:33] <mariano> but I can't seem to get that working with kubuntu
[07:33] <v3ctor> kicker --version
[07:33] <Lam_> does anyone else's emacs render the font too small?
[07:34] <macconline> trappist: thanks....
[07:34] <DaSkreech> jdawiz: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and you should be good
[07:36] <klekkus> anyone? what does this man mean with;  Just place a link in ~/.kde/Autostart with "kdesu reloadwirelessmodules.sh" or something similar).
[07:37] <fdoving> klekkus: what is it you're trying to do?
[07:37] <klekkus> fdoving: just link reloadwirelessmodules.sh in ~/.kde/Autostart
[07:38] <fdoving> klekkus: that's what he tells you to do. he also tells you to add 'kdesu' to it, to run it as root.
[07:38] <klekkus> fdoving: http://rik.no-ip.com/~rik/?q=node/10 <- if you read the wireless section you see what i mean, and btw i am totaly new to linux and ubuntu
[07:38] <Lam_> is there a way to explicitly disable the system bell?
[07:39] <klekkus> fdoving: if you see the link I gave you see what i mean
[07:40] <fdoving> klekkus: du you have a script named reloadwirelessmodules.sh with the commands listed on that page?
[07:40] <klekkus> fdoving: yes
[07:41] <jdawiz> thanks
[07:41] <fdoving> klekkus: ok, he uses confusing words. he means 'script' when he writes 'link'.
[07:41] <fdoving> klekkus: in ~/.kde/Autostart/ you can make a file let's say root-reloadwireless.sh
[07:42] <dom> Lam_, the system bell config is all under System Preferences.  I have mine configured to be visual only.
[07:42] <klekkus> fdoving: and thats it?:)
[07:42] <fdoving> klekkus: put 'kdesu /path/to/reloadwireless.sh' in it. and make it executable (right-click -> properties in konq)
[07:42] <dom> Lam_, sys prefs -> notifications
[07:43] <Lam_> dom: thanks a lot
[07:43] <dom> np
[07:44] <klekkus> fdoving: you want me to copy reloadwireless.sh to Autostart mappen?
[07:44] <utente> Giangio
[07:45] <fdoving> klekkus: no, make a new script.
[07:45] <klekkus> fdoving: ok, then what
[07:45] <jdawiz> daskreech --- running the install of kubuntu-desktop gets me unmet dependencies.  I think that it didn't do the full uninstall is there a way to force the dependencies?
[07:46] <fdoving> klekkus: make a new script, that executes the first script with kdesu. 'kdesu /path/to/firstscript.sh'
[07:46] <fdoving> jdawiz: please paste the error message at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:46] <Daskreech2> jdawiz: try apt-get install -f
[07:48] <jdawiz> fdoving it is pasted now
[07:48] <jdawiz> daskreetch no errors
[07:48] <dwar> Hello all. Where do Kubuntu list their bugs?
[07:50] <fdoving> jdawiz: please give me the full url to it.
[07:50] <firebird619> What would make the KDE main panel at the bottom of the screen disappear shortly after startup? It is not on autohide. I have been having other graphics troubles as well, such as window borders disappearing.
[07:50] <fdoving> dwar: bugs.ubuntu.com
[07:50] <dwar> fdoving: thanks
[07:51] <jdawiz> daskreech and fdoving -- I have a recent partimage of my drive that I can go back to but I wanted to check if there was a way for my knowledge
[07:51] <jdawiz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29574/
[07:52] <fdoving> jdawiz: can you paste the conents of /etc/apt/sources.list too?
[07:53] <trappist> firebird619: it could be crashing
[07:54] <jdawiz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29576/
[07:54] <firebird619> trappist: The mouse still works and everything, and I can right click the desktop, etc., just no panel. When I first start the PC, before the login screen, the majority of the time I get a black screen with muliple colored dots or likes or something, and sometimes thick white lines going across the screen. Could it be graphics drivers?
[07:55] <trappist> firebird619: yes, it could.  I wouldn't expect that to be related to the mysteriously disappearing panel, though.  but maybe.
[07:56] <firebird619> I have intel built-in graphics. Which package is recommended for that? I know there is a package called 915resolution, but I also find a package called xserver-xorg-video-intel. Which is recommended?
[07:56] <fdoving> jdawiz: ouch. you've used automatix. that's bad.
[07:57] <jdawiz> I don't use it anymore.. this machine was one of my first
[07:57] <fdoving> gnomefreak: ping? did you figure out how to fix automatix-broken-systems? have them correctly updated?
[07:58] <jdawiz> like I said I am completely backed up with partimage so I shouldn't have a problem getting back to normal that way
[07:58] <gnomefreak> fdoving: what do you mean?
[07:58] <gnomefreak> what is the issue?
[07:59] <gnomefreak> it depends what broke and why if it repairable
[08:00] <fdoving> I don't even know what automatix does.
[08:00] <fdoving> jdawiz: i would first start by removing the automatix lines from /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:00] <gnomefreak> i see the error
[08:00] <gnomefreak> no
[08:01] <gnomefreak> jdawiz: what version of kubutnu?
[08:01] <jdawiz> 6.06
[08:01] <gnomefreak> what version of kdebase?
[08:01] <gnomefreak> apt-cache policy kdebase
[08:02] <dwar> Does anyone know of a bug in the apache2 package causing the line 'DirectoryIndex' to be removed in apache2.conf?
[08:02] <jdawiz> 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27
[08:02] <gnomefreak> jdawiz: good
[08:02] <gnomefreak> jdawiz: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[08:02] <gnomefreak> jdawiz: please paste output to pastebin
[08:02] <control> alguien que me ayude por fa
[08:03] <jdawiz> sorry gnomefreak ?pastebin?
[08:03] <gnomefreak> jdawiz: are you upgrading?
[08:03] <control> * Connecting to ircchat.terra.cl (<IP_ADDRESS>) port 7000...
[08:03] <control> * Connected. Now logging in...
[08:03] <control> * Disconnected (Puerto cerrado en el equipo remoto).
[08:03] <jdawiz> nope just messed up
[08:03] <control> speak spaish ???
[08:03] <fdoving> !es
[08:03] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:03] <control> speak spanish ???
[08:03] <gnomefreak> jdawiz: the same place you pasted the other stuff
[08:03] <jdawiz> thanks
[08:04] <jdawiz> no not updating just messed up
[08:04] <gnomefreak> k just run that command and paste output on the pastebin site
[08:05] <fdoving> jdawiz: you could also check /etc/apt/preferences - if it exists, it could make problems. (don't know what automatix does so i wouldn't know if it exists or not)
[08:05] <gnomefreak> fdoving: if i had to guess its due to the multimedia stuff automatix installed messing it up
[08:05] <jdawiz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29578/
[08:05] <gnomefreak> fdoving: installs java, codecs ect. for the user that doesnt know how to use apt-get install
[08:05] <fdoving> gnomefreak: ok, i'll let you handle this, as i don't have a clue about automatix.
[08:05] <control> gracias
[08:06] <gnomefreak> ah
[08:06] <gnomefreak> this isnt automatix
[08:06] <gnomefreak> this is user i believe
[08:06] <jdawiz> fdoving : I will take a look.  like I said I quit using automatix a while ago becuase I found more of the real ways to do everything
[08:06] <klarkin> eve'nin
[08:06] <fdoving> ah.. i see it too.
[08:06] <DaSkreech> Man the NTFS guys are really really really quiet
[08:07] <fdoving> jdawiz: did you try to install kde from kubuntu.org repositories?
[08:07] <gnomefreak> wher eis sources.list file pasted to?
[08:07] <gnomefreak> fdoving: it looks like it
[08:07] <fdoving> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29576/
[08:07] <gnomefreak> hes got 3.5.2 kdebase and trying to grab 3.5.4 stuff
[08:07] <fdoving> doesn't contain kubuntu.org sources though. probably removed as they didn't work or made problems or something.
[08:08] <fdoving> gnomefreak: isn't it the opposite..
[08:08] <jdawiz> I don't believe I did fdoving
[08:08] <gnomefreak> he said kdebase version was 3.5.2
[08:08] <fdoving> is this backports then?
[08:08] <fdoving> 32.   konqueror: Depends: kdebase-kio-plugins (= 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27) but 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu1~dapper2 is installed.
[08:09] <gnomefreak> jdawiz: what is the ah
[08:09] <gnomefreak> sorry read that wrong
[08:09] <gnomefreak> jdawiz: do you have gnome or xfce?
[08:09] <gnomefreak> installed that you can boot to?
[08:10] <jdawiz> well gnome no I have kde only on this machine.
[08:10] <gnomefreak> jdawiz: do me a favor and do apt-cache policy kdebase-kio-plugins and give me the repo at the bottom
[08:10] <jdawiz> my kontact stuff is fixed now
[08:11] <gnomefreak> fdoving: they wouldnt have backported 3.5.4 (i would hope)
[08:11] <fdoving> gnomefreak: i only know about kubuntu.org 3.5.4
[08:11] <jdawiz> 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages
[08:11] <gnomefreak> jdawiz: what version does itsay
[08:11] <jdawiz> is the last line of that output
[08:12] <gnomefreak> jdawiz: is that the only repo there
[08:12] <jdawiz> 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu26 0
[08:12] <gnomefreak> jdawiz: try to do that with konqueror
[08:13] <gnomefreak> i need the version and the repos listed at bottom
[08:13] <jdawiz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29582/  is the output of the kdebase-kio-plugins
[08:13] <gnomefreak> jdawiz: i need it for konqueror also
[08:14] <gnomefreak> Installed: 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu1~dapper2  where did you get 3.5.2 from?
[08:14] <jdawiz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29583/ is konqueror
[08:14] <gnomefreak> jdawiz: what did you install with dpkg?
[08:15] <gnomefreak> jdawiz: sudo apt-get -f install
[08:15] <jdawiz> unless automatix installs that way I am not sure
[08:15] <gnomefreak> jdawiz: please paste output to pastebin
[08:15] <fdoving> gnomefreak: 4:3.5.4-0ubuntu1~dapper2 matches kubuntu.org version
[08:15] <gnomefreak> !kdebase dapper
[08:15] <ubotu> kdebase: base components from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 38 kB, installed size 76 kB
[08:15] <gnomefreak> !info jdebase dapper
[08:15] <ubotu> Package jdebase does not exist in dapper
[08:16] <gnomefreak> fdoving: unless they ported all of kde for security fixes (they shouldnt have)
[08:16] <jdawiz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29584/
[08:16] <pancho> Hi everybody, some help on playing mp3's on Kubuntu Edgy 64b?
[08:17] <pancho> I saw some pages on libxine-extracodecs but cannot find it. Any help?
[08:17] <gnomefreak> jdawiz: open up your /etc/apt/sources.list file and get rid of all automatix repos and the debsarge repo save than close it
[08:18] <gnomefreak> jdawiz: you need to do it with sudo
[08:18] <lugburz> !dt
[08:18] <lugburz> !ger
[08:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:18] <lugburz> hm
[08:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:18] <some0ne> Hey I see on kde-look.org there are custom splash screens for Kontact. How do you set those?
[08:19] <lugburz> german chan?
[08:19] <lugburz> !german
[08:19] <lugburz> hm
[08:19] <lugburz> !ger
[08:19] <fdoving> jdawiz: what's the output of: dpkg -l|grep '3.5.4' ?
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about german - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <lugburz> !dt
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <fdoving> !de
[08:19] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:19] <lugburz> ah ;)
[08:20] <gnomefreak> jdawiz: let me know when your done with that
[08:20] <jdawiz> fdoving http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29585/
[08:21] <pancho> Hi everybody, some help on playing mp3's on Kubuntu Edgy 64b?
[08:21] <fdoving> jdawiz: you do have kde 3.5.4 from kubuntu.org
[08:22] <azzco> Hi I've got a small problem here. I'm playing a game with wine but the window wont grab the mouse...
[08:22] <azzco> How do I make the window grab the mouse?
[08:22] <gnomefreak> jdawiz: did you use the repo on kubuntu.org to install kde 3.5.4?
[08:22] <fdoving> jdawiz: add 'deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main' to your /etc/apt/sources.list and try to install kubuntu-desktop again.
[08:23] <klekkus> hi i need to know ho to make a script run at startup in kubuntu, anyone knows?
[08:23] <klekkus> its a .sh script btw
[08:23] <fdoving> klekkus: before login? or after?
[08:23] <klekkus> fdoving: before:)
[08:23] <jdawiz> gnome... I am back to a sources.list from scratch
[08:23] <fdoving> klekkus: /etc/rc.local
[08:23] <pancho> some help on playing mp3's on Kubuntu Edgy 64bit?
[08:23] <jdawiz> and uncommented debs
[08:23] <jdawiz> and multiverse added
[08:24] <gnomefreak> jdawiz: add the repo that fdoving asked you to
[08:24] <klekkus> fdoving: just do "nano /etc/rc.local" then in the file type "/path/to/file"?
[08:24] <gnomefreak> jdawiz: after that sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:25] <WikinG> question about OOo - how to put page landscape?
[08:25] <fdoving> klekkus: correct. before the line 'exit 0'
[08:25] <MidMark> hi, I have set the screensaver
[08:25] <MidMark> but it appears everytime an X moving into screen
[08:25] <MidMark> any fix?
[08:25] <klekkus> fdoving: ok, thnkz:D
[08:26] <pancho> Please, some help on playing mp3's on Kubuntu Edgy 6.10 64bits?
[08:26] <fdoving> klekkus: make sure the /path/to/file file is set executable, if it's not you have to prepend the /path/to/file with '/bin/sh'.
[08:26] <gnomefreak> fdoving: he should be fine after that i would try locate automatix and get the script off his system too
[08:27] <jdawiz> done>   output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29587/
[08:27] <pancho> Pluss some help on screen refresh rate / repaint rate that is a little odd (slow)
[08:27] <wonderdady> hi
[08:27] <_robert> hi I'm looking for the kde maintainer. specially the kopete one.
[08:27] <wonderdady> newbe here:)
[08:27] <gnomefreak> there you go. other than finding the script and deleting it you should be all good
[08:27] <_robert> kopete cant't connect to icq since today, but a patch is provided from the kde guys
[08:27] <_robert> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kopete/+bug/69494
[08:27] <jel> _robert: why?  If you want to report a bug, there are websites to submit them through.
[08:28] <_robert> I submitted the bug already
[08:28] <jel> ahh, you have :)
[08:28] <wonderdady> alway`s so much ppl in here
[08:28] <_robert> but a non working icq connection is real real problem ;-)
[08:28] <jel> _robert: I believe there is  a kde-devel or kde-dev channel somewhere...
[08:28] <_robert> I know
[08:29] <_robert> I've discussed it with them and they provided a patch
[08:29] <pierre__> how do i stop KDE from remembering all my apps etc from the previous session?
[08:29] <_robert> just one line ;-)
[08:29] <_robert> so now I'm looking for new kopete packages ;-)
[08:29] <wonderdady> i need to speed kubuntu up @acer travelmate 212txv
[08:30] <wonderdady> anny suggestions???
[08:30] <pancho> some help on playing mp3's on Kubuntu Edgy 64bit?
[08:30] <wonderdady> wiki didnt help me much this far
[08:30] <h3sp4wn> !restricted > pancho
[08:30] <pancho> ??
[08:31] <pancho> @_@
[08:31] <wonderdady> well, i gues nowbody can /will help me
[08:31] <wonderdady> google and wiki didnt help me much to
[08:32] <fdoving> _robert: i'll update the package, and have someone upload it to edgy-updates once it's opened.
[08:33] <pierre__> how do i stop KDE from restoring my session every time i log in?
[08:33] <_robert> could you also to dapper 3.5.5 packages? or are the the same?
[08:33] <pancho> (1 to: 100) do: [Transcript show: 'Please some help on playing mp3 on kubuntu edgy 64bit?' ; cr] .
[08:33] <_robert> I could test them then
[08:33] <_robert> than
[08:34] <fdoving> _robert: they are much about the same. I'll try to get kubuntu.org updated too. I'll tell you when I have something you can test.
[08:34] <_robert> ok thx
[08:35] <_robert> you can also send me a mail with it<EMAIL_ADDRESS>... and there are also some other guys in the kopete channel which would like to help testing it
[08:40] <_robert> fdoving: I've entered the info you gave me into the bug report so others know also that someone is working on new packages.  hope thats ok
[08:40] <pancho> ok bye
[08:40] <VitoGirl> using freenode 6.06.1
[08:40] <VitoGirl> using kubuntu 6.06.1
[08:40] <VitoGirl> :)
[08:40] <VitoGirl> trying to install tcl8.4
[08:40] <VitoGirl> and i got some problems like
[08:41] <VitoGirl> checking for gcc no
[08:41] <VitoGirl> checking for cc no
[08:41] <VitoGirl> checking compression for manpages no
[08:41] <VitoGirl> checking whether to use sumlinks for manpages no
[08:41] <fdoving> _robert: great, thanks :)
[08:43] <_robert> fdoving: no problem.
[08:45] <MidMark> someone else that has problem with screensaver?
[08:45] <VitoGirl> .
[08:45] <VitoGirl> just installed kubuntu 6.06.1 and trying to install tcl8.4 and i got these problems : checking for gcc no , checking for cc no ,checking compression for manpages no,checking whether to use sumlinks for manpages no any help please
[08:46] <VitoGirl> help please?
[08:46] <claude> What do you need help with?
[08:46] <VitoGirl> just installed kubuntu 6.06.1 and trying to install tcl8.4 and i got these problems : checking for gcc no , checking for cc no ,checking compression for manpages no,checking whether to use sumlinks for manpages no any help please
[08:47] <VitoGirl> this!
[08:47] <VitoGirl> what do i need to do
[08:47] <MidMark> VitoGirl: install build-essential
[08:47] <MidMark> all you need to compile
[08:47] <VitoGirl> how?
[08:47] <VitoGirl> im new in linux series
[08:48] <MidMark> what you have to do? install tcl 8.4? compile? why?
[08:48] <VitoGirl> why i need it to run eggdrop
[08:48] <VitoGirl> thats why
[08:48] <VitoGirl> install apache , mysql , php
[08:48] <MidMark> so open adept, select tcp8.4 and install it
[08:48] <MidMark> it's easy
[08:49] <VitoGirl> i dont have internet connection on that small pc
[08:50] <MidMark> so go to packages.ubuntu.com and search for the package, remember to search for dapper if you have 6.06
[08:50] <VitoGirl> what kind of packages do i need to search
[08:50] <VitoGirl> i dont have gcc
[08:50] <VitoGirl> actually this dapper dont havfe nothing
[08:50] <MidMark> you don't need gcc!
[08:50] <VitoGirl> did u readed my problem?
[08:51] <VitoGirl> checking for gcc no , checking for cc no ,checking compression for manpages no,checking whether to use sumlinks for manpages no any help please
[08:51] <MidMark> yes but doing WHAT? compiling... installing... laughing...
[08:51] <VitoGirl> compilling and installing tcl8.4
[08:51] <MidMark> oh yes
[08:51] <MidMark> finally
[08:52] <VitoGirl> so what i need to install
[08:52] <VitoGirl> im newbie
[08:52] <MidMark> so how can you move date to this pc?
[08:52] <VitoGirl> thru usb stick
[08:52] <MidMark> ok
[08:52] <MidMark> so wait a sec
[08:52] <VitoGirl> okey
[08:52] <unix_infidel> move date?
[08:52] <VitoGirl> or moving data:D
[08:52] <MidMark> data
[08:54] <MidMark> ok edgy has tcl8.4 dapper not
[08:54] <MidMark> sorry
[08:54] <MidMark> dapper yes
[08:54] <MidMark> VitoGirl: go here -> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/interpreters/tcl8.4
[08:55] <MidMark> download the deb file
[08:55] <VitoGirl> okey mate
[08:55] <VitoGirl> oh
[08:55] <VitoGirl> i already got the tcl8.7
[08:55] <VitoGirl> i already got the tcl8.4
[08:55] <VitoGirl> but i need gcc to install 8.4
[08:55] <MidMark> VitoGirl: you have source?
[08:55] <VitoGirl> yes
[08:56] <MidMark> VitoGirl: there are source to be compiled and precompiled package
[08:56] <MidMark> the link I gave you are precompiled!
[08:56] <MidMark> no need to compile
[08:56] <VitoGirl> well lets se
[08:56] <MidMark> download the deb file -> transfer to the other pc -> right click -> kubuntu menu -> install -> password
[08:57] <MidMark> of course you have to download the right file: i386, amd64 or powerpc it depends on which dapper you have installed
[08:57] <VitoGirl> i386
[08:58] <MidMark> so get it, and install it
[08:58] <VitoGirl> libc6
[08:58] <MidMark> libc6 should be installed... check in the other pc
[08:58] <VitoGirl> now i need that
[08:58] <VitoGirl> ;)
[08:58] <MidMark> open adept
[08:58] <VitoGirl> okey
[08:58] <MidMark> search libc6
[08:58] <MidMark> and see if is it installed
[08:58] <MidMark> try
[08:59] <MidMark> with kubuntu you don't need to compile, only in very few cases where there aren't packages precompiled
[09:00] <zhar>  ..   ?
[09:00] <VitoGirl> cant understand?
[09:01] <trappist> VitoGirl: install the 'build-essentials' package to get the majority of what you need to compile, includin the libc6 header files
[09:01] <MidMark> trappist: he has to download manually every package and transfer with usb key
[09:01] <VitoGirl> how to install that?
[09:01] <trappist> ouch, missed that part
[09:01] <MidMark> build-essential has a lot of packages
[09:01] <MidMark> VitoGirl: continue to search :D
[09:01] <VitoGirl> hehe
[09:01] <VitoGirl> no fear
[09:01] <MidMark> libc6 is installed?
[09:01] <zhar> Im russia! Who speak russia?
[09:02] <trappist> !ru
[09:02] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[09:02] <VitoGirl> how to check?
[09:02] <MidMark> just said!
[09:02] <MidMark> open adept
[09:02] <zhar> Big thenks!
[09:02] <MidMark> put libc6 in the search
[09:03] <MidMark> and see
[09:03] <trappist> VitoGirl: you need libc6-dev (you already have libc6 installed)
[09:03] <VitoGirl> okeY
[09:03] <Lars_G> you hate me, all of you :)
[09:03] <MidMark> Lars_G: do you need to install tcl? :)
[09:03] <MidMark> we are here
[09:04] <Lars_G> MidMark: Nah, but I wanted amarok 1.4.4 so baddly and you're making me go edgy :)
[09:04] <Lars_G> I'm updating my distro then
[09:04] <MidMark> Lars_G: so only one thing -> at the end check if kubuntu-desktop ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-base were installed
[09:04] <dalbirdy> can someone help me get my repositories in order....
[09:04] <MidMark> because my update uninstalled them
[09:05] <Lars_G> OK, I will
[09:05] <Lars_G> thanks
[09:05] <MidMark> dalbirdy: ask
[09:05] <VitoGirl> MidMark
[09:05] <Lars_G> I wonder if I should dist-upgrade and upgrade in aptitude, I've always used apt-get before
[09:05] <VitoGirl> heh i installed
[09:05] <dalbirdy> can someone help me get my repositories in order....?
[09:05] <VitoGirl> tcl8.4
[09:05] <rich_> anyone able to gimme alittle help in here since ubuntu channel seems to not respond?
[09:05] <VitoGirl> wile im trying to configure my eggdrop
[09:05] <VitoGirl> there says
[09:05] <VitoGirl> gcc error
[09:05] <VitoGirl> cc erro
[09:05] <VitoGirl> wtf this kubuntu
[09:05] <dalbirdy> i am getting duplicates....and repositories not found anymore
[09:05] <VitoGirl> nothing got
[09:05] <Lars_G> Will you people stop asking if we can help and please ask what you need?
[09:06] <dalbirdy> how can i show you what my souces list looks like
[09:06] <MidMark> VitoGirl: what are you doing now?
[09:06] <VitoGirl> ill paste now
[09:06] <Lars_G> dalbirdy: you can paste them on a pastebin like rafb.net/paste
[09:06] <MidMark> !paste
[09:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:06] <rich_> in my xorg.conf i have under monitors my refresh rates, but its like xserver isn't even using them at all.  For refresh rates the only options i have at 50 and 63 hz
[09:06] <Lars_G> thanks MidMark
[09:06] <VitoGirl> /eggdrop-1.6.17$ ./configure
[09:06] <VitoGirl> checking for gcc... no
[09:06] <VitoGirl> checking for cc... no
[09:06] <VitoGirl> checking for cc... no
[09:06] <VitoGirl> checking for cl... no
[09:06] <VitoGirl> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[09:06] <VitoGirl> See `config.log' for more details.
[09:07] <rich_> i have tried dpkg -reconfigure and get the same results
[09:07] <MidMark> VitoGirl: eggdrop is present for dapper
[09:07] <MidMark> like tcl
[09:07] <Lars_G> tcl?
[09:07] <MidMark> listen to me please
[09:07] <VitoGirl> i need to instal gcc , cc , cc , cl
[09:07] <MidMark> NO
[09:07] <VitoGirl> i need theese
[09:07] <MidMark> listen!
[09:07] <MidMark> listen!!!
[09:07] <VitoGirl> damn
[09:07] <VitoGirl> i want to install
[09:07] <VitoGirl> apache
[09:07] <MidMark> yes I know
[09:07] <VitoGirl> too
[09:07] <VitoGirl> mysql
[09:07] <VitoGirl> pohp
[09:08] <MidMark> but they are ALL packages just compiled
[09:08] <dalbirdy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29596/
[09:08] <VitoGirl> were?
[09:08] <MidMark> why you want to COMPILE?
[09:08] <dalbirdy> there is my source list
[09:08] <MidMark> so listen
[09:08] <MidMark> please
[09:08] <VitoGirl> ok
[09:08] <MidMark> go to packages.ubuntu.com
[09:08] <MidMark> search for DAPPER
[09:08] <VitoGirl> yep
[09:08] <MidMark> WHAT you want to install
[09:08] <cpk1> rich_: you set the HorizSync and VertRefresh in section "monitor"?
[09:08] <VitoGirl> ikm new
[09:08] <VitoGirl> MidMark
[09:08] <VitoGirl> i want to install eggdrop
[09:08] <MidMark> if you need some other packages then search
[09:08] <VitoGirl> and php , mysql
[09:08] <MidMark> there are: php, mysql
[09:08] <MidMark> all
[09:09] <MidMark> precompiled
[09:09] <MidMark> search, download, install
[09:09] <MidMark> ok?
[09:09] <Lars_G> MidMark: I wonder if it wouldn't be saner to install from scratch and save my data....
[09:09] <Lars_G> Nah, I have too much configured already
[09:09] <Lars_G> nvm
[09:09] <VitoGirl> and the eggdrop isnt here
[09:09] <trappist> !enter | MidMark
[09:09] <ubotu> MidMark: Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:09] <MidMark> yes sorry
[09:09] <MidMark> but VitoGirl doesn't listen!
[09:10] <rich_> cpk1: yes i have
[09:10] <dalbirdy> has anyone checked out kmy sources list?
[09:10] <dalbirdy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29596/
[09:10] <MidMark> VitoGirl: eggdrop is present, I've checked before!
[09:10] <VitoGirl> so find it for me
[09:10] <rich_> shall i paste bin that section so you can see?
[09:10] <MidMark> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/eggdrop
[09:10] <MidMark> are you stupid?
[09:10] <MidMark> there is the serach function!
[09:11] <Lars_G> MidMark: you seem like a decent person, insults and all. wish me luck please
[09:11] <trappist> MidMark: there's no place for that here.
[09:11] <VitoGirl> ok MidMark
[09:11] <Lars_G> dalbirdy: one sec my firefox's acting up
[09:11] <VitoGirl> but if i want to have gcc cc on my os
[09:11] <trappist> MidMark: please keep it civil.
[09:11] <VitoGirl> what do i need to do
[09:11] <MidMark> VitoGirl: the same thing
[09:11] <MidMark> search, download install
[09:12] <MidMark> trappist: have you read? search for me...
[09:12] <MidMark> this is an insult!
[09:12] <trappist> VitoGirl: he's telling you you don't need a compiler to install eggdrop.  just download and install the eggdrop package (and the eggdrop-data package)
[09:12] <VitoGirl> ye ye i understand
[09:12] <VitoGirl> but anyway
[09:12] <VitoGirl> i want to have gcc libc and all on my pc
[09:13] <MidMark> VitoGirl: if you want to compile and waste your time so do that, if you want to become smart then start using packages.ubuntu.com
[09:13] <MidMark> bye
[09:13] <trappist> MidMark: if you're too frustrated to be helpful, don't help.  but don't insult her.
[09:13] <VitoGirl> thx
[09:13] <VitoGirl> im newbie anyway
[09:13] <dalbirdy> ok....i just remarked every source except the last one.....I wanted to upgrade to Edgy from the CD
[09:13] <trappist> VitoGirl: do you not have a kubuntu cd?
[09:13] <VitoGirl> will anyone find for me
[09:13] <VitoGirl> i got it here
[09:13] <cpk1> rich_: sure, are you using dapper or edgy?
[09:13] <MidMark> VitoGirl: I know you are a newbie but you have to listen to people ok?
[09:13] <trappist> VitoGirl: you can install the packages from there
[09:14] <MidMark> bye
[09:14] <rich_> edgy
[09:14] <VitoGirl> wich is the comand?
[09:14] <rich_> fresh install
[09:14] <VitoGirl> trappist
[09:14] <VitoGirl> wich is the command to get pacgages from the cd
[09:15] <Lars_G> Sometimes there's merit to compiling. Not in this case, maybe but somtimes there is
[09:15] <VitoGirl> ill never will unerstand kubuntu or anyone linux
[09:15] <VitoGirl> if i dont know to kompile
[09:15] <VitoGirl> everything in linux starts with comiling makeing installing
[09:15] <Lars_G> that's not true virgilio
[09:15] <Lars_G> VitoGirl:
[09:16] <Lars_G> You can be totally happy in linux and use and understand it without learnign to compile
[09:16] <VitoGirl> ok than
[09:16] <Lars_G> though compiling IS a good tool, specially for using darker software
[09:16] <VitoGirl> so how can i get packages from the cd?
[09:16] <Lars_G> you need to run apt-cdrom
[09:17] <VitoGirl> done
[09:17] <VitoGirl> and now how to get gcc from the cd?
[09:17] <Lars_G> once your cdrom is part of your sources it should, afaik (I can be wrong) predominate the sources.
[09:17] <dalbirdy> lars_G did you see anything on my sources?
[09:18] <Lars_G> so next apt-get install you do should fetch from the cd if it's there
[09:18] <trappist> so, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:18] <Lars_G> let me look at them again in depth.
[09:19] <dalbirdy> i commented all of them out except the cd...kubuntu6.10........I used synaptics and it didnt find anything....but i will use apt-get this time
[09:19] <Lars_G> dalbirdy: Did you run an update after the comments?
[09:19] <dalbirdy> I reloaded if that is what you mean
[09:21] <cpk1> rich_: i dont know about in edgy but in dapper ddcprobe seemed to be pretty useless
[09:21] <gemidjy> http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/1848/uyub0.png << ugly splash
[09:21] <Lars_G> sigh bbl
[09:22] <dalbirdy> Lars_G still nothing
[09:22] <rich_> i had no problems in dapper my resolution was 1280X1024 @ 75hz
[09:23] <TheNameless> hello, i have found a (maybe fatal) bug in ubuntu 6.10, what should I do?
[09:23] <Goliath23> TheNameless: what is the bug?
[09:24] <TheNameless> in ubuntu 6.10 are driver installed that not work (it's the rt61 wlan driver), the are buggy with preemt & smp, that also standart is
[09:25] <TheNameless> so if somebody configure the rt61 card, the system won't work (i can't login as root, only recovery work)
[09:25] <Goliath23> TheNameless: i'd suggest the following procedure: 1. google for it. maybe others have the same problem and a solution. maybe you even find hints if someone else reported it. - 2. search launchpad, the ubuntu bug-reporting platform for a similar bug (this can be a bit tricky, its hard to get used to launchpad imo) - 3. if you do not find a similar bug, register a launchpad account and file a bug report.
[09:27] <TheNameless> Goliath23: the problem is known by the developer of the driver (it had the problem before i installed 6.10)
[09:27] <TheNameless> how can i deactivated the driver, so i can install another kernel?
[09:28] <Goliath23> TheNameless: make sure that the bug you are talking about is really ab ubuntu bug. if you installed software from other apt-sources than the default ones, then it most probably is not an ubuntu bug. even if you install software from the default repositories, you still have to think about wether it's more likely that it is a bug in the software itself (kde for example) or a bug in the way that ubuntu uses/deploys this software
[09:28] <Goliath23> TheNameless: what did you do to make the problem appear? did you compile a new kernel?
[09:29] <VitoGirl> well
[09:29] <VitoGirl> i installed the precompiled eggdrop
[09:29] <VitoGirl> now
[09:29] <VitoGirl> i cant find it ?
[09:29] <VitoGirl> were he is ?
[09:29] <VitoGirl> :)
[09:30] <TheNameless> Goliath23: no, I just installed ubuntu 6.10 (not the live cd, with inetnet connection over lan) and then I would configure my network and I woundered why ubuntu found my wireless card
[09:31] <jel> VitoGirl: was it a deb file?
[09:32] <TheNameless> Goliath23: So it must be a standart ubuntu package...
[09:32] <VitoGirl> yes
[09:32] <jel> VitoGirl: try dpkg -L eggdrop
[09:32] <Goliath23> TheNameless: and what happens now? when you start kubuntu?
[09:33] <VitoGirl> i typeed that
[09:33] <VitoGirl> and they finded
[09:33] <VitoGirl> but i want the eggdrop to be on my folder
[09:34] <jel> VitoGirl: you wanted a personal install, for your username; not system-wide?
[09:34] <VitoGirl> yes of course
[09:35] <TheNameless> Goliath23: the card was not configured after the installtion, so i configured it, then I restart (because the configuration crashed), all work normal, I see the login, but after I login to KDE (I have kubuntu) I see only the background, if I change to tty I and I run iwconfig or sudo su the system crash
[09:35] <TheNameless> freezes
[09:36] <VitoGirl> jel?
[09:37] <jel> VitoGirl: sorry, was busy there.
[09:37] <VitoGirl> psybnc is not avaiable on packages
[09:37] <VitoGirl> hehe
[09:38] <VitoGirl> so tell me please jel :)
[09:38] <Goliath23> TheNameless: and you say, that the driver developer knows that his driver freezes the linux kernel? (kde not appearing after system boot more likely has something to do with a faulty video driver. for example a nvidia kernel module that was not compiled against the currently running kernel. which is the case if you customized your kernel and rebuilt it)
[09:38] <TheNameless> it's a problem by the rt61 driver, so I would say the driver are not working yet and should not provided with ubuntu, because they only work on kernels without preemt and smp (the devolper of the driver said this)
[09:38] <Goliath23> TheNameless: that's a bug then, yes!
[09:39] <h3sp4wn> TheNameless: tried rt2xx svn (the devicescape based version ?)
[09:39] <Goliath23> TheNameless: best thing to do would be quoting the developer or his driver website in a bugreport created on launchpad then..
[09:39] <jhutchins_wk> Where's opera for edgy?
[09:39] <h3sp4wn> jhutchins_wk: opera.com
[09:40] <h3sp4wn> jhutchins_wk: the etch or sid one is probably closer to edgy than the dapper one but either should work
[09:40] <jhutchins_wk> Wasn't it in the repos for Dapper?
[09:41] <cpk1> http://news.com.com/Intel+pledges+80+cores+in+five+years/2100-1006_3-6119618.html O.o
[09:41] <h3sp4wn> jhutchins_wk: It was in dapper-commercial
[09:41] <VitoGirl> so tell me please jel :)
[09:42] <jel> VitoGirl: umm... you can't really install debs that way.   If eggdrop is  a script that doesn't depend on a certain location, then you could extract it from the deb and install in ~/bin or whatever.  you'd need to remove the deb with apt-get --purge remove eggbot
[09:42] <jhutchins_wk> Goliath23: Is there a way to start kubuntu without starting kdm/X?
[09:42] <TheNameless> h3sp4wn & Goliath23: yes, if have read the forum, they know the bug and say that the driver aren't compatible with preemt & smp ...so i wounder why the driver provided with ubuntu ?
[09:42] <systest> Is it possible to use LVM for a clean install of 6.10?  I can't seem to find that option in the installer.
[09:42] <trappist> jhutchins_wk: not without starting X, no
[09:42] <DaSkreech> Wjat
[09:42] <trappist> jhutchins_wk: do you mean boot without starting X?
[09:42] <DaSkreech> What's with the generic kernel?
[09:43] <jhutchins_wk> trappist: Yeah, just boot to console mode, like runlevel 3 on that other distro.
[09:43] <h3sp4wn> TheNameless: For the only ralink card I have the svn rt2xx drivers work great (never used the other ones because I know they suck - ndiswrapper works better than them)
[09:43] <trappist> jhutchins_wk: you could boot to single user mode (the 'recovery' grub option) or you could say sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove (to turn off kdm starting automatically at boot)
[09:44] <jel> VitoGirl: or just find the website, extract the archive under ~/, and see if it runs :)
[09:44] <jel> VitoGirl: you settled for eggbot instead of psybnc?  What features do you need?
[09:45] <VitoGirl> i need gcc,libc
[09:45] <VitoGirl> all all
[09:45] <TheNameless> h3sp4wn: i think it's only the rt61
[09:45] <VitoGirl> this kubuntu 6.06.1 nothing have
[09:45] <VitoGirl> i want to have eggdrop1.6.18.tar.gz
[09:45] <VitoGirl> but to precompile that eggdrop
[09:45] <VitoGirl> i need gcc, c compiler and allthing
[09:45] <jel> VitoGirl: apt-get install build-essential will get you gcc etc.
[09:45] <VitoGirl> but i dont have internet connection on that pc
[09:45] <h3sp4wn> TheNameless: Have you actually tried the other drivers ? (the ralink ones and ones based on them don't work with smp properly)
[09:45] <jel> VitoGirl: oh
[09:46] <VitoGirl> but i got the cd
[09:46] <TheNameless> how can I deactived the driver, so I can start my PC?
[09:46] <TheNameless> deactivate
[09:47] <Goliath23> TheNameless: hm.
[09:47] <Goliath23> TheNameless: what kind of hardware are we talking about?
[09:47] <h3sp4wn> TheNameless: blacklist the module
[09:47] <TheNameless> Goliath23: rt61 is a wireless lan card dirver
[09:48] <TheNameless> h3sp4wn: how to blacklist it?
[09:48] <h3sp4wn> !blacklist
[09:48] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add "blacklist modulename" to the end of that list
[09:48] <TheNameless> thx
[09:48] <h3sp4wn> TheNameless: I would run sudo update-modules after (but I don't know whether that is necessary I do it out of habit)
[09:49] <VitoGirl> does kubuntu support all versions of eggdrop
[09:50] <h3sp4wn> !info rt2x00-source edgy
[09:50] <ubotu> Package rt2x00-source does not exist in edgy
[09:50] <TheNameless> !info rt61-source edgy
[09:50] <ubotu> Package rt61-source does not exist in edgy
[09:50] <Goliath23> TheNameless: the bug seems to be already reported and severity was set to "high" ... please see: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/35474 and check if that is your problem. (also read the comments. one comment also states, that the bug freezes his system on reboot)
[09:51] <h3sp4wn> TheNameless: Its one driver (provides drivers for rt61, rt2400, rt2500, rt2570 some others)
[09:53] <TheNameless> Goliath23: maybe, I must test, if it run without web key
[09:53] <wolf4> I have just installed Helix player, and my sound volume is now diminished, What did I do wrong?
[09:54] <h3sp4wn> TheNameless: rt2x00.serialmonkey.com (get the daily svn snapshot and build that or use the deb for rt2x00-source from debian (only dependancies are debhelper and module-assistant)
[09:56] <TheNameless> h3sp4wn: I think rt61 is different to the others, the drivers orignaly all devolped by ralink and now devoloped on rt2x00.sourcefourge.net
[09:57] <TheNameless> h3sp4wn: yes I know the site, I would compile the driver from this site, after i will deactive the preemt & smp
[09:57] <jhutchins_wk> Hey, plf is back!
[09:58] <CotRo|eR> I need to install ISP CONFIG in my ubuntu server .. is there some command? any help pls?
[09:59] <TheNameless> h3sp4wn: that is what i mean: the driver aren't stable yet, so I wonder why the driver come with ubuntu?
[10:02] <jhutchins_wk> I'm still having trouble with streams.
[10:03] <jhutchins_wk> This one http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ActualPopup/kcur.wax  says "media not playable"
[10:03] <jhutchins_wk> This one: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/asxgen/wmtencoder/kpr2.wma.asx  Shows activity on the "analyser", but I get no sound.
[10:04] <jhutchins_wk> They both work on my Mandriva 2007 box.  I have followed the instructions on the Restricted Formats page.
[10:04] <wolf4> Is there a way to alter the stream speed on a slow connection?
[10:04] <h3sp4wn> TheNameless: The svn ones are a complete rewrite
[10:05] <jhutchins_wk> wolf4: I don't see one for the first source...
[10:06] <jhutchins_wk> Second one says 28.8 modem or better.
[10:06] <VitoGirl> well
[10:06] <VitoGirl> now i have problems installing nerolinux :D
[10:06] <VitoGirl> damnnnnn
[10:06] <VitoGirl> any one to help me
[10:06] <h3sp4wn> TheNameless: The apparantly unstable ones work better than any of the others in my experience (as did madwifi-ng before it was in ubuntu)
[10:06] <VitoGirl> it says i need libglib1.2
[10:06] <VitoGirl> and libgtk1.2
[10:06] <VitoGirl> :)
[10:07] <wolf4> use apt-get and install it individually.
[10:07] <VitoGirl> how?
[10:07] <VitoGirl> from cd?
[10:07] <wolf4> open konsole and type apt-get
[10:08] <jhutchins_wk> wolf4: VitoGirl has no inet connection.
[10:08] <wolf4> sorry type aptitude
[10:08] <TheNameless> h3sp4wn: no they don't, i see the driver from the site and the from ralink, they based on the ralink
[10:08] <wolf4> can somebody ping you from an outside source?
[10:08] <cpk1> grrr amarok 1.4.4 is only going to be available on edgy?
[10:08] <|WAL|> my swap partition doesn't mount anymore
[10:09] <h3sp4wn> TheNameless: You are obviously not looking at the right ones
[10:09] <h3sp4wn> TheNameless: They are not based on the ralink ones (they use a backported devicescape stack)
[10:11] <TheNameless> h3sp4wn: i mean the driver on http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/
[10:12] <h3sp4wn> TheNameless: There is multiple drivers on there (you want rt2x00 - the beta driver its complete rewrite and does not have the problems with smp or preempt)
[10:13] <h3sp4wn> TheNameless:   rt2x00 BETA Testing
[10:13] <cpk1> why is amarok 1.4.4 only available on edgy?
[10:13] <TheNameless> h3sp4wn: mean you the rt61 or the other driver, I mean the rt61 and  they are a exception
[10:14] <h3sp4wn> TheNameless: Are you listening to anything I am attempting to tell you ? rt2x00 has a driver for rt61
[10:14] <h3sp4wn> TheNameless: rt61pci.c
[10:15] <h3sp4wn> TheNameless: (in the sourcecode so I am certain it is there)
[10:16] <|WAL|> my swap partition doesn't mount anymore
[10:16] <TheNameless> cpk1: with smp & preemt enabled kernel & 64bit?
[10:17] <TheNameless> h3sp4wn: yes, i could show you, it, but the site down work yet :/
[10:17] <xst> Since edgy, X has been broken for most Matrox cards. A bug has been filed for long time ago (http://tinyurl.com/y8o6z7) but it seems to be ignored by the maintainer. What can I do then?
[10:17] <cpk1> TheNameless: no to 64bit but i think smp and prempt is on
[10:17] <h3sp4wn> TheNameless: The driver is edgy is the legacy one (which is the broken one)
[10:18] <TheNameless> cpk1: thats the problem i think :/
[10:19] <cpk1> h3sp4wn: so I shouldnt use the source package from dapper?
[10:19] <cpk1> h3sp4wn: to get rt61 to work?
[10:19] <jhutchins_wk> !mp3
[10:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:20] <h3sp4wn> cpk1: No use the source package from etch or sid (and build it with module-assistant) that would be the easiest way (package is called rt2x00-source)
[10:21] <cpk1> well sounds more annoying than its worth =P
[10:22] <h3sp4wn> cpk1: After you have installed the deb its one line
[10:23] <h3sp4wn> cpk1: sudo module-assistant prepare,update; sudo module-assistant build,install rt2x00
[10:23] <gameplayer> salut
[10:23] <gameplayer> hello may I say...
[10:24] <cpk1> hrmm I have RT2561/RT61 which isnt exactly a rtxx00...
[10:24] <h3sp4wn> cpk1: that is just the name of the generic ralink driver (supports all of them)
[10:25] <h3sp4wn> cpk1: just as madwifi supports different models of atheros cards - rt2x00 is just the name of the project
[10:25] <gameplayer> I have a problem with vi juste after installing kubuntu edgy, can someone help me ?
[10:25] <h3sp4wn> gameplayer: What problem ?
[10:25] <gameplayer> (sorry for my english..)
[10:26] <gameplayer> when I tape i to insert / modify text vi goes mad
[10:26] <gameplayer> it show letters when i use arrows
[10:26] <gameplayer> backspace doesn't work...
[10:26] <h3sp4wn> gameplayer: instead of loading it as vi - run it as vim
[10:26] <gameplayer> it's the same
[10:27] <h3sp4wn> gameplayer: What shell do you use (if it is zsh I can help you otherwise not sure)
[10:27] <gameplayer> i use the default kubuntu shell
[10:28] <h3sp4wn> in xterm ?
[10:28] <gameplayer> konsole
[10:29] <h3sp4wn> sounds like a problem with TERM or keymapping but I use neither konsole or bash so don't really know what to suggest
[10:29] <gameplayer> ok
[10:29] <steveire> gameplayer: What are you trying to do?
[10:30] <gameplayer> modify file with vi / vim
[10:30] <steveire> ok. And vim is confusing you? Can you not use kate>
[10:30] <h3sp4wn> gameplayer: but in vi you are better off using h, l , j , k (instead of the arrows its faster once you are used to it)
[10:30] <gameplayer> i prefer using vi, faster to load...
[10:31] <gameplayer> ok...
[10:31] <steveire> Have you run through vimtutor?
[10:31] <gameplayer> so i have to remove insert mode to do so
[10:31] <gameplayer> steveire: nope, i kow haow to use vi /vim
[10:31] <dom> gameplayer, you probably need to check your inputrc
[10:31] <h3sp4wn> if it is called as vi (not vim) the arrows would never work in insert mode
[10:32] <gameplayer> oh ?
[10:32] <cpk1> h3sp4wn: is there a 2.6.17 kernel available for dapper?
[10:32] <VitoGirl> how to start sshd on kubuntu
[10:32] <dom> h3sp4wn, vi is just a softlink to vim in (k)ubuntu
[10:32] <gameplayer> i know ther is a file that define an alias for vim instead of vi, what is it ?
[10:33] <dom>  ls -l /etc/alternatives/vi
[10:33] <dom> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 2006-10-26 16:29 /etc/alternatives/vi -> /usr/bin/vim
[10:33] <VitoGirl> how to start sshd on kubuntu
[10:33] <gameplayer> ==> /usr/bin/vim.tiny exactly
[10:33] <gameplayer> in edgy
[10:34] <h3sp4wn> gameplayer: You want the full vim
[10:34] <dom> oh, actually, it's vim.basic
[10:34] <gameplayer> yep
[10:35] <gameplayer> i want to use vim as I was using it before (maybe the wrong way) with arrows in edit mode and syntax coloration..
[10:35] <_robert> dom: : don't change that manual
[10:35] <dom> _robert, change what?
[10:35] <_robert> man update-alternatives
[10:35] <_robert> the alternatives
[10:36] <VitoGirl> how to start sshd on kubuntu
[10:36] <VitoGirl> how to start sshd on kubuntu
[10:36] <dom> VitoGirl, run adept and install the openssh-server
[10:36] <_robert> install it first with apt-get instsall ssh
[10:36] <cpk1> argh it looks like i am going to be forced to use edgy
[10:36] <gameplayer> openssh no ?
[10:37] <cpk1> what kernel does edgy use?
[10:37] <h3sp4wn> gameplayer: search for vim.basic - with apt-file or whatever (which is what you want)
[10:37] <_robert> and than it starts from alone
[10:37] <dom> cpk1, 2.6.17-10-generic
[10:37] <h3sp4wn> gameplayer: then sudo update-alternatives --config vim
[10:37] <cpk1> blarg
[10:37] <VitoGirl> i dont have internet connection on that pc
[10:37] <h3sp4wn> gameplayer: if you want it to act like vim then run vim - or vi run vi)
[10:37] <cpk1> first amarok and now I need a newer kernel
[10:37] <_robert> VitoGirl: no problem ssh should be also on the cd
[10:38] <KooL4444> how do i edit my dns server manually, when i change it in the interface it works for a little while and then reverts back to a local address which is not a dns server? any clue?
[10:38] <gameplayer> i'll try it..
[10:38] <VitoGirl> how to get from the cd than ? _robert
[10:38] <VitoGirl> whats the command
[10:38] <_robert> VitoGirl: with apt-cdrom you add the cdrom, and than apt-get update and than apt-get install ssh
[10:39] <VitoGirl> tenx
[10:39] <jhutchins_wk> What really bugs me is that it appears to be receiving the stream, but there's no sound, and ONLy with this stream!
[10:39] <jhutchins_wk> mms://<IP_ADDRESS>:1755/wmtencoder/kpr2.wma
[10:39] <gameplayer> why in dapper the problem wasn't there ?
[10:40] <jhutchins_wk> ... and on Mandriva it's fine.
[10:40] <_robert> bye
[10:40] <dg6e74> i need some networking help i want this set up using 3 nic cards interet>linux>windows so far i got the intenet to work on the linux box and the second nic card works now im lost someone said something about a dchp sever
[10:40] <KooL4444> what file are the dns entries in?
[10:40] <h3sp4wn> gameplayer: dapper uses vim.basic (wrongly in my opinion as vi) not vim.tiny (which acts as vi should)
[10:42] <VitoGirl> i installed the ssh
[10:42] <VitoGirl> what now?
[10:42] <rav3n> does anybody have any problem with java <IP_ADDRESS> in edgy ??
[10:42] <dg6e74> i do
[10:42] <rav3n> am having problems runing frostwire and azureus
[10:42] <gameplayer> ok
[10:42] <rav3n> frostiwre keeps doesn't even load the main window and azureus exits after loading giving a VM error
[10:43] <serialzkiller> hello folks
[10:43] <gameplayer> i just check something...
[10:43] <cpk1> rav3n: whats the error for frostwire if you run it from a terminal?
[10:43] <VitoGirl> i installed the ssh , now hot to start it?
[10:43] <gameplayer> maybe it's better when i install vim package with apt-get... *blush*
[10:44] <serialzkiller> yes ssh
[10:44] <serialzkiller> love it
[10:44] <serialzkiller> you learn to hack true ssh  ????
[10:44] <rav3n> the funny thing is that it doesn't load from terminal  gives    runFrost.sh: 44: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting "}")
[10:45] <sinbad44> i cant seem to change all my kubuntu app backgrounds to dark, what gives ??
[10:45] <VitoGirl> i installed the ssh , now hot to start it?
[10:45] <andre> hey all
[10:45] <rav3n> azureus gives me :
[10:45] <rav3n> An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine:
[10:45] <rav3n> #
[10:45] <rav3n> #  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0xb05e0d02, pid=24560, tid=3085285040
[10:45] <sinbad44> for example i cant change all konqueror website backgrounds to dark
[10:45] <sinbad44> help
[10:46] <cpk1> rav3n: that is an easy fix for frostwire, and are you using the sun java?
[10:46] <VitoGirl> i installed the ssh , now hot to start it?
[10:46] <VitoGirl> i installed the ssh , now hot to start it?
[10:46] <Furesho> hey, in my aliases in Konversation, how to i set it up to do more than one command?
[10:46] <rav3n> ofcourse
[10:46] <gameplayer> h3sp4wn: thanks for your help
[10:46] <serialzkiller> yes your hot 2 start it
[10:47] <loz> good evening everyone
[10:47] <cpk1> rav3n: kdesu kate /usr/bin/frostwire and change sh runFrost.sh to bash runFrost.sh
[10:48] <serialzkiller> yes simbat HELP shoot
[10:48] <gameplayer> see ya everybody
[10:49] <dg6e74> anyone know the command to setup a dchp server
[10:49] <rav3n> cpk1: hey!!! you're the man :D :D lol
[10:49] <InteliWasp> !xorg
[10:49] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:49] <loz> anyone know how to install limewire on edgy?
[10:49] <rav3n> cpk1: it worked like a charm, may i know wht was the exact erroe i mean wht is the diff bet. sh and bash ??
[10:49] <loz> or recomend a good peer to peer?
[10:50] <cpk1> rav3n: dapper changed from using bash to dash
[10:50] <cpk1> err edgy
[10:50] <cpk1> dapper used bash edgy uses dash now
[10:50] <rav3n> cpk1: Ooh I see...thanks
[10:50] <rav3n> cpk1: a lot...
[10:52] <cpk1> rav3n: go to #azureus-support to get better help with azureus
[10:52] <rav3n> cpk1: okay, i'll give it a try, thanks.
[10:52] <cpk1> rav3n: and take a look at hs_err*log?
[10:53] <dg6e74> im a bit confused i got a intenet connection cause irc works but firefox and kopete does not workd
[10:54] <dg6e74> any ideas on what i can do to fix
[10:55] <naegling23> I want to share folders across my network(kubuntu and ubuntu computers) what should I use, samba or nfs?
[10:55] <CVirus> dg6e74: have you tried restarting your IRC client and see whether it will still work or not ?
[10:55] <dg6e74> no
[10:56] <dg6e74> y would i want it to stop working
[10:56] <CVirus> dg6e74: before you do that
[10:56] <CVirus> dg6e74: to diagnos the problem
[10:56] <CVirus> dg6e74: most probably its a DNS problem
[10:56] <CVirus> dg6e74: maybe your client is caching a certain DNS entry so thats why its working
[10:56] <dg6e74> im new to linux and wanna learn why nothing ever works right for me
[10:57] <CVirus> dg6e74: we'll solve this problem first then see what else isnt working
[10:57] <dg6e74> i think i need to set up this pc as a dhcp server
[10:57] <mw46_1> hi;-)
[10:57] <CVirus> dg6e74: kdesu kate /etc/resolv.conf
[10:58] <CVirus> dg6e74: and add appropriate DNS entries that were supplied by your ISP
[10:58] <dg6e74> um....
[10:58] <CVirus> dg6e74: and check your browser once again and see whether it will work or not
[10:58] <dg6e74> kdesu kate /etc/resolv.conf what do i do with this
[10:59] <rav3n> join #azureus-support
[11:00] <InteliWasp> i am trying to get xorg to work but it is no longer detecting my hardware in the xserver reconfigure program
[11:01] <mycket> InteliWasp: which means?
[11:03] <InteliWasp> mycket:  im going on 5 days of hell getting this computer to work... and this is the last problem on my priority list
[11:04] <mycket> InteliWasp: Computer are stupid! try   less /var/log/Xorg.0.log  in a console
[11:05] <InteliWasp> mycket:  for some reason the original drivers that was installe did not work and after i tried the fglrx drivers, it was tring to load 3 sets all of the sudden
[11:05] <Xal2> Hi
[11:05] <Xal2> I recently changed my hard drive controller, and now my linux partition is different.
[11:06] <rav3n> where can i file the script responsible fro launching the konsole
[11:06] <Xal2> I changed the boot in grub and mount point of / in fstab, but now I'm having problems with KDE.
[11:06] <rav3n> find*
[11:06] <Xal2> For example, some of my system settings modules are not working. I get the following error: "An error occured during your last KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned control module" or "You have old third party modules lying around"
[11:06] <Xal2> I haven't changed anything, though.
[11:06] <mycket> InteliWasp: in /var/log your system logs what's happening. So does X.org. Look at the logfiles and you (hopefully) find a error message. Then you know where to look at
[11:07] <mycket> InteliWasp: btw some logfiles can only be read as superuser...
[11:10] <InteliWasp> mycket:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29613/   this is my old xorg file with fglrx installed
[11:12] <sinbad44> anyone know if its even possible to change my konqueror website background color to dark or do i have to install firefox ??
[11:12] <InteliWasp> is anyone having a problem with xmms in edgy?
[11:12] <mycket> InteliWasp: Hmmm... /dev/wacom sounds like a graphic tablet. Do you have one connected?
[11:13] <InteliWasp> that is a default thing...
[11:15] <rav3n> i have a texas instrument media 5-in-1 multimedia card reader that gives me : tifm_7xx1: sd card detected in socket 1 : when i dmesg
[11:16] <rav3n> any idea how can i mount it?
[11:17] <SoloSeKNoSeNada> how do you say programming in english ? what channel is ?
[11:17] <mycket> InteliWasp: does your X server work? Or just console and no kde?
[11:17] <SoloSeKNoSeNada> If i want to ask programming questions
[11:18] <InteliWasp> mycket:  with the setting from then x would start but after logging in it would seize up and i had to hard eset
[11:18] <InteliWasp> *reboot
[11:18] <rav3n> how to mount media card in media card reader?
[11:18] <rav3n> !help
[11:18] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:19] <dre> just ask solo,think people will understand this
[11:23] <rav3n> well, if my flash media card not automatically mounted does that mean it's not supoorted?
[11:25] <mycket> InteliWasp: you use 6.10, right? i went back to 6.06 because of stability problems... Did you try to move /etc/xorg.conf to somewhere else and then reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[11:27] <InteliWasp> mycket:  yes i am trying to redo the xorg, but it only shows generic drivers for vid vard and monitor
[11:29] <intelikey> InteliWasp what app ?
[11:30] <intelikey> !reconfigure
[11:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reconfigure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:30] <intelikey> !xorg
[11:30] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:31] <InteliWasp> intelikey:  what do you mean?
[11:32] <intelikey> i have no context for the statement "i am trying to redo the xorg,"  i just got here...
[11:32] <intelikey> so i was asking how you are going about this "redoing"
[11:33] <InteliWasp> oh, the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:33] <redtricycle> Um.
[11:33] <intelikey> ok.   if you are trying to use ati or nvidia drivers they wont show in that, you'll need to edit xorg.conf dirrectly
[11:33] <redtricycle> is 40 deg celsius too hot for inside the case?
[11:34] <InteliWasp> i'm starting to think about going back to 6.06...
[11:34] <mycket> InteliWasp: try to comment out the sections in xorg.conf. btw i have wacom errors too in my logs - but kde and x work fine and dont't have a tablet :-)
[11:34] <InteliWasp> redtricycle:  nope thats good
[11:34] <redtricycle> thanks, InteliWasp
[11:35] <mycket> InteliWasp: 6.10 still seems to be unstable :-(
[11:35] <InteliWasp> redtricycle:  if it get higher than 60, the start to worry a bit...
[11:35] <InteliWasp> mycket:  no kidding...
[11:35] <redtricycle> Yeah, I gotta fix a bunch of stuff with 6.10
[11:35] <redtricycle> Like...I can't shutdown unless it's from konsole
[11:35] <redtricycle> -_-
[11:35] <intelikey> redtricycle that would kinda depend on the ambiant temp.   if it's 0C outside the case that's way to hot.  but if it's 35C out side and 40C inside that's about right.
[11:36] <redtricycle> 35 is waaay hot
[11:36] <redtricycle> Hell...30 is hot for me
[11:36] <mycket> redtricycle: i can shutdown: power off :-))
[11:36] <redtricycle> T.T
[11:36] <redtricycle> But yeah, if you shutdown from the GUI
[11:36] <redtricycle> it just hangs at shutdown
[11:36] <redtricycle> I have to type "shutdown -h now" @ the term
[11:38] <InteliWasp> on a side note, how do i make the applet icons stack on each other?
[11:39] <intelikey> redtricycle possably an error in the halt script in /etc/init.d
[11:40] <redtricycle> hrm
[11:40] <redtricycle> i'll go look
[11:41] <redtricycle> If I CAN use the terminal shutdown -h, I'd think the halt script is fine
[11:41] <redtricycle> Maybe the kde call to the shutdown does something?
[11:41] <redtricycle> It's just odd
[11:43] <mycket> redtricycle: the manpage says "
[11:43] <mycket> hutdown does its job by signalling the init pro
[11:43] <mycket>        cess, asking it to change the runlevel.
[11:43] <InteliWasp> is there anyway to get the system tray icons to go 2 rows?
[11:43] <h3sp4wn> redtricycle: try xdm instead of kdm
[11:43] <mycket> so it talks to the kernel i think?!?
[11:43] <redtricycle> What's that?
[11:43] <h3sp4wn> redtricycle: or just don't run a login manager - go into x with startx
[11:43] <redtricycle> xdm?
[11:43] <h3sp4wn> !info xdm edgy
[11:43] <intelikey> redtricycle the init halt script is calling   " halt -d -f -i $poweroff $hddown "     you might adjust that and just see if that's where the error lies
[11:43] <ubotu> xdm: X display manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.5-1 (edgy), package size 160 kB, installed size 756 kB
[11:44] <dom> huh, why would kmail's default encoding be US ASCII instead of Unicode?
[11:45] <intelikey> dom why noy ?
[11:45] <intelikey> not
[11:46] <dom> cause ASCII doesn't support any characters other then a-zA-Z and no diacritical marks
[11:46] <intelikey> and your locale is ?
[11:47] <dom> UTF-8
[11:47] <cellofellow> anyone know how to use the pop3s:/ kioslave in konqueror? with gmail?
[11:48] <mw46_1> kmail?
[11:48] <dom> that's the encoding set in sys prefs -> country/regiion -> spell checker ... I don't see encoding anywhere else
[11:48] <unbooto> how do I disable gui mode, or set the init level not to load services at "boot:"  on the live cd?
[11:49] <rav3n> anybody knows how to moung media card in edgy?? it's detected in dmesg
[11:49] <intelikey> dpkg -l | grep -ie 'language-support'
[11:49] <h3sp4wn> unbooto: man update-rc.d (you need to update-rc.d -f kdm remove)
[11:50] <dom> intelikey, ii  language-support-en                        6.06+20060529                        metapackage for English language support
[11:50] <cellofellow> I usually just use the gmail interface, but do have pop enabled. I want to download one particular message with pop, and thought that the pop3s:/ protocol in konqueror would show messages as files. It opens kmail instead, but then says malformed url.
[11:50] <intelikey> dom that might be it.....
[11:50] <unbooto> h3sp4wn: no, you see.. its on a machine where theres only a live-cd, i cant setup init.d
[11:51] <dom> still, US-ASCII is a little dated
[11:51] <mycket> unbooto: did you look at the cheatcodes? F2 or F3 at the bootprompt i think
[11:52] <dom> is there a language pack that would replace "en" do you suppose?
[11:52] <cellofellow> hmmm, pop3s:// doesn't work as expected.
[11:52] <joscha> is icq @ kopete dead again?
[11:52] <intelikey> apt-cache search language-support
[11:53] <fdoving> joscha: yes, updated packages at http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kopete-fix/
[11:53] <joscha> fdoving: ah thank you very much
[11:53] <felixjet> is there anyway to backup all my system preferences, themes, etc?
[11:54] <felixjet> in a simple way
[11:54] <felixjet> at least for KDE & konqueror configs
[11:54] <unbooto> is there any "boot:" flag to make the live-cd not load all the services, x and kde?
[11:54] <fdoving> felixjet: backup ~/.kde/
[11:54] <h3sp4wn> felixjet: just backup ~/.kde
[11:54] <cellofellow> felixjet: /home/foo/.kde holds all that
[11:54] <felixjet> okey
[11:54] <felixjet> thanks
[11:55] <intelikey> unbooto i havent any
[11:55] <felixjet> uhm
[11:55] <felixjet> backup is not a shell command right?
[11:55] <felixjet> xD
[11:55] <joscha> no
[11:55] <felixjet> ill try keep
[11:56] <intelikey> unbooto one could add init=/bin/bash    if needed.....
[11:56] <cellofellow> intelikey: I guess that unbooto is thinking of knoppix. the boot option "knoppix 2" loads just a CLI system. Don't think kubuntu is designed that way though.
[11:56] <fdoving> felixjet: no, you can use 'tar -cjvf dot-kde.tar.bz2 ~/.kde/' from the shell.. for example.
[11:56] <fdoving> .. or try keep.
[11:56] <mycket> felixjet: cp -r $HOME/.kde /whatever ...
[11:56] <cox377> is there anyway to take control over another kubuntu machine from this kubuntu machine to do things like updates and install / uninstall software and just general commands?
[11:56] <intelikey> cellofellow ummm hummm
[11:57] <fdoving> cox377: ssh
[11:57] <joscha> cox377: ssh
[11:57] <dom> intelikey, actually the "locale" command gives the locale:
[11:57] <dom> % locale
[11:57] <dom> LANG=en_CA.UTF-8
[11:57] <cox377> fdoving: Ok, so i gotta install SSH on the host computer?
[11:57] <cellofellow> cox377: ssh works for me. with X forwarding, you can even run graphical programs. Install "ssh" on both machines.
[11:58] <intelikey> dom yeah but that's base system not kde...
[11:58] <cox377> cellofellow: do u know exactly what i have to install on both machines?
[11:58] <fdoving> cox377: yes, openssh-server on the hosts,
[11:58] <mycket> cox377: on your pc ssh on the other sshd
[11:58] <cellofellow> cox377: na, ssh is a metapackage that installs both the server and client.
[11:59] <cellofellow> cox377: install that
[11:59] <cox377> lol so many contridictions
[11:59] <joscha> install package "ssh" on booth computers
[11:59] <intelikey> ssh is a meda pack that installs both the server and client
[11:59] <cox377> Ok, coolio cheers for that
[11:59] <intelikey> as of 6.6 anyway
[11:59] <cellofellow> intelikey: that's exactly what I said.
[11:59] <joscha> and then ssh <ip of other computer> -l<loginname on other computer>
[11:59] <intelikey> cellofellow sure is.
[11:59] <joscha> with sftp (included in ssh) you can even copy files between both pcs
[11:59] <cellofellow> cox377: ssh -X user@hostnameorip
[12:00] <cox377> joscha: N1, just the job, i thought it maybe SSH because i use SSH on my smoothwall but i wasn't exactly sure
[12:00] <fdoving> fish://hostnameorip/ is nice too.
[12:00] <fdoving> in konqueror, that is.
[12:01] <intelikey> fish ?
[12:01] <intelikey> :)
[12:01] <cox377> fdoving: so once ssh is installed i can just punch fish into kongueror
[12:01] <cellofellow> intelikey: in konqueroro
[12:01] <fdoving> cox377: yes.
[12:01] <intelikey> cellofellow rms who ?
[12:01] <h3sp4wn> shfs is much more useful than fish for me
[12:01] <cellofellow> intelikey: what about rms?
[12:02] <cox377> cellofellow: so just apt-get install ssh on both machines, activate on server side and away i go?
[12:02] <sinbad44> u guys ARE kidding me right ?  u mean to tell me i cant even control background colors in konqueror or kde menus ??!
[12:02] <sinbad44> that fuckin sux
[12:02] <cellofellow> cox377: apt-get will even turn on the daemon for ya. just do it. no sweat.
[12:03] <intelikey> sinbad44 yes they are kidding you.
[12:03] <LjL> !language | sinbad44
[12:03] <ubotu> sinbad44: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:03] <cellofellow> sinbad44: you can, it's just hidden. try kcontrol
[12:03] <cox377> cellofellow: do you mean once installed that's it?
[12:03] <sinbad44> kcontrol ok thx
[12:03] <intelikey> sinbad44 it's all in kcontrol
[12:03] <cellofellow> cox377: after the installation apt-get, or at least aptitude, will turn on the sshd daemon, and you can use it after that.
[12:04] <felixjet> how can i make konqueror to remember the window's size :( im tired of resize a window everytime it opens, cause fill almost all desktop!
[12:04] <cellofellow> cox377: then you can connect.
[12:04] <cox377> how do i turn on the sshd daemon?
[12:04] <sinbad44> i dont see kcontrol
[12:04] <h3sp4wn> Has anyone managed to setup a system using 2 keyboards and monitors (one with X and one just a framebuffer console - I can set up cinerama fine but want a console)
[12:04] <dom> sinbad44, system settings
[12:04] <cellofellow> sinbad44: Alt+F2 type kcontrol it aint in the menu.
[12:04] <sinbad44> ahh ok
[12:04] <intelikey> felixjet the left upper corner button of the window in question.   set the exteneded properties to remember the size/location
[12:05] <fdoving> felixjet: right click on the titleline -> advanced -> special window settings.. or something like that.
[12:05] <cellofellow> window-specific settings are nice but sort of a bore.
[12:05] <felixjet> thanks!
[12:05] <ubuntu> i think this ubuntu project is really gonna help linux go mainstream. its amazing how simple it is becoming to install/customize now
[12:06] <cellofellow> you must have just installed ubuntu
[12:06] <ubuntu> ive been a long time gentoo user
[12:06] <ubuntu> im installing kubuntu on my laptop
[12:06] <michael___> hello ! is there anyone ?
[12:06] <BluesKaj> yup
[12:06] <cellofellow> ubuntu:wowserzs. big difference when installing
[12:07] <ubuntu> yes..
[12:07] <mycket> no :-)
[12:07] <ubuntu> thats linux's only setback of going mainstream, is usability
[12:07] <BluesKaj> I hear gentoo is a bitch to install
[12:07] <michael___> I need help vith java enviroment. can U help ?
[12:07] <ubuntu> its not a bitch to install, its just boring.. heh
[12:07] <cellofellow> michael___: we were half quiet for 2o seconds and you thought noone was here?
[12:07] <cellofellow> michael___: sun?
[12:07] <intelikey> ubuntu i don't see it as any "simpler to install/customize now" than 3 years ago really.
[12:08] <michael___> Yes - I need it for my webbank
[12:08] <ubuntu> oh.. well i just used it. and coming from me who's used gentoo and slackware. this is really simple and stable
[12:08] <cellofellow> michael___: install sun-java5-jre with apt-get, NOT adept.
[12:08] <BluesKaj> for me it was , but that was 2 yrs ago when I was less than mediocre at linux tasks , now I'm just mediocre :)
[12:08] <sinbad44> why is adept so so slow at installing ??
[12:09] <intelikey> ubuntu hehhe yeah it's about where mandrake was three years ago  :)
[12:09] <cellofellow> sinbad44: it sort of seems to take forever to call dpkg. I don't know why.
[12:09] <BluesKaj> sinbad44, the repos are very busy due to the new release
[12:09] <ubuntu> yea.. i tried mandrake long ago. i thought it woul dbe good cause the install was very easy, but when i started using it it was garbage. just a big mess of programs
[12:09] <dom> ubuntu, linux's only setback in going mainstream is distribution.  there's a lot of people that won't or can't a) download a distro or b) install it themselves.  MS and Apple do well because a lot of systems ship with their OS pre-loaded
[12:09] <cox377> cellofellow: i accidently restarted lol, sorry, i've installed ssh how do i start the daemon?
[12:09] <BluesKaj> not impressed with mandrakes hardware recognition
[12:09] <sinbad44> adept downloads fast enough, its just the installing part that hangs, so should i use apt-get on console for installing or ?
[12:10] <cellofellow> cox377: it's already running, init took care of that.
[12:10] <exhale> sinbad44: shure, adept's pretty bad
[12:10] <ubuntu> i think the main setback is the GUI. and its useability. if you want something in linux to work you have to do alot of research etc to get it working sometimes.
[12:10] <cellofellow> cox377: to test, type ssh localhost
[12:10] <cellofellow> at konsole
[12:10] <cox377> Ok, can i test a system by logging in within that own machine, if u see what i'm saying
[12:10] <michael___> hmm ... apt-get can not find the package sun-java5-jre :-(
[12:10] <cellofellow> cox377: yes
[12:10] <dom> ubuntu, basic operation stuff can easily be addressed during system installation
[12:11] <cpk1> michael___: you need multiverse enabled
[12:11] <ubuntu> im talkin about when you are in the os
[12:11] <sinbad44> i remember the dapper 5.10 installer worked fine, maybe i should go back to dapper ?
[12:11] <ubuntu> just simple stuff
[12:11] <cox377> cellofellow: "ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused"
[12:11] <dom> ubuntu, like what?
[12:11] <intelikey> ubuntu i guess it's all in what you want to propagate.
[12:11] <cox377> cellofellow: do i have to open it on the firewall?
[12:11] <ubuntu> like when i tried to get flash working in linux under gentoo i had to look around and find out how to get it working, and thats just one of the things
[12:11] <cellofellow> michael___: it's in multiverse. oops. sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and add "multiverse" after wherever you see universe.
[12:11] <cellofellow> cox377: not unless you configured your firewall already.
[12:11] <cellofellow> cox
[12:12] <michael___> Thanks !! Ill try that :-)
[12:12] <cox377> cellofellow: yes
[12:12] <cox377> ?
[12:12] <cellofellow> cox377: maybe it isn't running. ps -A | grep sshd to see
[12:12] <dom> ubuntu, if the system was pre-loaded by a vendor, automatix could be one of the provided packages.  then installing flash, wmv, mp3, mov and any of that kind of stuff is trivial
[12:12] <cox377> "ps -A | grep sshd"
[12:12] <intelikey> ubuntu you are talking about "propritary" krap on an open sourse system....  don't mix them and you wont have that problem
[12:12] <ubuntu> heh


[18:16] <adn34> Hello everyone
[18:17] <adn34> I want to file a bug on Kubuntu
[18:17] <adn34> I am not sure how to do it properly
[18:18] <adn34> It is about Input method item on System settings
[18:18] <adn34> I am not sure how to find out the appropriate package name for it.
[18:20] <adn34> Can anyone help me?
[18:20] <hjd> adn34: Hi :)
[18:21] <adn34> Hello <hjd>
[18:21] <hjd> I'm not that familiar with KDE, but... if you run `ubuntu-bug -w` you can click on the window of the application and apport should find the package name by itself :)
[18:22] <adn34> That's great... let me try... :)
[18:22] <teward> (that should work)
[18:26] <adn34> Yes, it collected some info and started submitting report
[18:26] <adn34> but it didn't let me write any details about the bug
[18:26] <adn34> How will it know what bug it has?
[18:27] <teward> adn34: that happens after it sends the data up to LP
[18:27] <teward> adn34: it'll give you a link or open a Launchpad page, and you can enter data there.
[18:27] <adn34> oh!
[18:27] <adn34> thanks
[18:27] <teward> you're welcome


[03:09] <fivecats> I need Mac drivers for the Broadcom BCM4322 wireless lan controller
 By chance have you seen some of the sites for installing said drivers, i.e. https://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers
[03:16] <fivecats> sifitng through all of that info now.  Thanks!
[03:24] <fivecats> Perfect!  Thank you for pointing me to exactly the right place!
[03:48] <valorie> @DarinMiller is a bit of a genius....
[04:17] <gregor3000> hello, how do i calculate disk space occupied by hidden folder ./steam
[04:17] <gregor3000> and subfolders
[04:17] <krytarik> "du -sh <directory>"
[04:21] <gregor3000> oh cool thanks.
[04:21] <krytarik> Sure.
[04:21] <gregor3000> but in dolphin it is only showing current directory
[04:22] <Dragnslcr> If you right-click the directory in Dolphin and go to Properties, it should show you the total size
[04:24] <gregor3000> maybe it hasn't calculated yet as it is showing 4 kB for each of the hidden ones.
[04:24] <gregor3000> i have an old PC
[04:28] <gregor3000> what age do we live in. when people have to calculate the storage to see if stuff it will fit on internal laptop disc.... -)
[04:28] <Dragnslcr> If so, the Properties window should say Calculating
[07:40] <MavropaliasG> Hi
[07:41] <MavropaliasG> I have the latest Kubuntu installation (fully updated). The problem I have is that even though kdialog is installed, chromium uses a GTK window when asking me when to save downloads
[07:41] <MavropaliasG> so I can't change the folder/file view and previews
[07:41] <MavropaliasG> how can I force chromium to use kdialog when asking where to download files?
[08:30] <tomreyn> MavropaliasG2: i don't know the immediate answer to your question, but note that chromium is a snap in latest ubuntu releases, which could be related.
[08:38] <MavropaliasG> tomreyn: how to install the base package from the repository?
[08:38] <MavropaliasG> sudo apt install chromium will install the snap again?
[08:49] <tomreyn> MavropaliasG: on 20.04 LTS, it will, yes.
[08:50] <tomreyn> maybe there's a PPA which still provides the software packaged in .deb's
[08:50] <tomreyn> !ppa
[09:02] <tomreyn> MavropaliasG: maybe this is a good choice: https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium https://software.opensuse.org/download/package?package=ungoogled-chromium&project=home:ungoogled_chromium
[11:34] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:34] <Alabalistic> hi
 Hello
 Alabalistic: are you on #libregamenight also?
[11:46] <Alabalistic> no
[11:46] <Alabalistic> IrcsomeBot,
 Strange I saw you in the user list
[11:59] <Alabalistic> I'm in Mint chanels kubuntu xubuntu
 Okok maybe you joined once and quit after
[12:35] <user|22393> hello, i want to open .msg file with thunderbird. i tried but it is not opening. what should ı do?
[12:37] <user|22393> who is communicating with me?
[12:38] <BluesKaj> think you have to use outlook to open it
[12:38] <user|22393> how can ı install outlook for kubuntu
[12:40] <BluesKaj> think outlook is mainly a webpage, used to work on linux if you have an acct
[12:47] <BluesKaj> user|22393, https://freeelectron.ro/opening-msg-outlook-files-in-ubuntu-or-linux-mint/
[12:52] <tomreyn> BluesKaj: thunderbird would also save single e-mails as .msg
[12:52] <tomreyn> oops, actually, not, that's .eml
[12:53] <tomreyn> but maybe we should try to understand which file format the file really is?
[12:53] <tomreyn> user|22393: can you run    file /path/to/stored/email.msg    and tell us what it reports?
[12:54] <tomreyn> user|22393: maybe also discuss how this file was created in the first place, or how you got this file.
[12:55] <tomreyn> for an .eml file i exported from thunderbird, "file" reports: SMTP mail, ASCII text, with CRLF line terminators
[12:55] <tomreyn> and     file -i    reports:  message/rfc822; charset=us-ascii
[12:57] <user|22393> now i installed prospect mail app. i will try
[15:34] <pragomer> hi. I need help. Deleted kubuntu 20.04' s default panel while trying latte dock. After removing latte I added the "kubuntu default panel" but the super key for menu is not working anymore. I cannot get it to work again for opening the menu.
[15:46] <Dragnslcr> pragomer- open System Settings and go to Shortcuts -> Global Shortcuts -> Plasma
[15:47] <Dragnslcr> There's a shortcut for Activate Application Menu Widget. If you set it to Alt-F1, the meta key alone will open the menu.
[15:48] <pragomer> perfect. that worked. thank you very very much :-)


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[21:59] <linduxed> hey guys
[22:00] <linduxed> when i adjust the volume on my laptop in too rapid fashion (2-3 clicks/sec) the entire computer dies in an instant, what could this be caused by?
[22:00] <linduxed> or where should i look to get some output on the problem?
[22:05] <NeFaRi0uS> this room isn't for support
[22:05] <NeFaRi0uS> try #ubuntu-laptop
[22:05] <NeFaRi0uS> soz
[22:05] <NeFaRi0uS> #ubuntu
[22:05] <NeFaRi0uS> :P


[01:58] <cprov> jkakar: any page in special, or anyone triggers it ?
[02:20] <jkakar> cprov: Primarily the page for a single bug, but that's the page I tend to visit the most.
[02:21] <jkakar> cprov: It might have nothing to do with Launchpad, but I only seem to see it on Launchpad pages.
[02:21] <cprov> jkakar: firefox + firebug on jaunty ?
[02:21] <cprov> jkakar: it seems to be fine for me on intrepid, let me check again.
[02:22] <cprov> jkakar: looks ok, but I remember seen it before.
[02:22] <jkakar> cprov: Firefox and Firebug on Intrepid.
[02:24] <cprov> jkakar: weird, could you please file a bug about it, intellectronica will take a look at it for you.
[02:24] <jkakar> cprov: Sure thing.
[02:26] <cprov> jkakar: thank you.
[02:27] <jkakar> cprov: My pleasure! :)
[02:28] <cprov> jkakar: you are star!
[02:28] <jkakar> cprov: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/350047
[02:28] <cprov> jkakar: btw, how are you, landscape guys, doing with your PPAs ?
[02:29] <jkakar> cprov: Just fine, AFAIK.
[02:29] <jkakar> cprov: We haven't released a new landscape-client for quite a while though.
[02:29] <jkakar> cprov: We've had an SRU request in progress for some time, which has recently been unblocked, so there's now a new package in jaunty which I believe we have yet to release for the other release.
[02:29] <cprov> jkakar: why is that ? many new features ?
[02:30] <jkakar> cprov: No, we needed to have an exception put in place so that we could update the landscape-client package in released versions of Ubuntu.
[02:31] <cprov> jkakar: I see.
[02:31] <jkakar> cprov: That's all done now, so we'll be able to start releasing client updates again.
[02:32] <cprov> jkakar: cool :)
[02:32] <cprov> jkakar: ah, other think. Did you guys invested anytime in exploring the LP API for PPAs ?
[02:33] <jkakar> cprov: No, not yet, but I've recently started playing with launchpadlib and am really enjoying it.
[02:33] <cprov> jkakar: checkers, release scripts, anything related with automation of your PPAs.
[02:33] <jkakar> cprov: What cool things can we do to PPAs with it?
[02:33] <jkakar> cprov: Ah, interesting.
[02:34] <cprov> jkakar: edit the description, figure out the signing_key fingerprint, lookup sourcepackages and builds
[02:35] <cprov> jkakar: I'm just asking because we are exposing features on demand and we are interested to know if you need anything that is not available yet.
[02:35] <cprov> jkakar: ping me, if you need anything in that area.
[02:38] <jkakar> cprov: Awesome, thanks!
[04:36] <meoblast001> hi
[04:49] <meoblast001> did launchpad just go down?
[04:50] <meoblast001> my push is failing
[04:51] <thumper> meoblast001: I don't think so
[04:51] <thumper> meoblast001: I was able to check a branch on lp
[04:51] <thumper> meoblast001: using bzr revno
[04:51] <thumper> meoblast001: so the internals are working
[04:52] <meoblast001> thumper: well now i have to break a lock :P
[04:52] <thumper> meoblast001: sure it wasn't an error or disconnection client side?
[04:53] <meoblast001> thumper: Transferring:Copying content texts:Copied record 47/54
[04:53] <meoblast001> it gets stuck there
[04:53] <thumper> how long did you wait?
[04:53] <thumper> meoblast001: and which bzr versions?
[04:53] <meoblast001> thumper: a good 3 minutes
[04:53] <meoblast001> let me check
[04:53] <meoblast001> 1.13rc1
[04:54] <thumper> meoblast001: there was a regression in that one
[04:54] <thumper> meoblast001: that causes very long pushes over hpss
[04:54] <meoblast001> thumper: but it was working
[04:54] <meoblast001> now it's not
[04:54] <thumper> meoblast001: if you use -Dhpss
[04:54] <meoblast001> no
[04:54] <thumper> meoblast001: it depends what your pushing
[04:54] <thumper> meoblast001: and the tree shape I think
[04:54] <thumper> meoblast001: there are cases where it was doing way too many calls
[04:54] <meoblast001> bzr push<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:55] <thumper> meoblast001: it has been fixed, but that is on bzr.dev
[04:55] <thumper> meoblast001: the regression will be gone once LP rolls out 1.13 server side on the 1st of April
[04:55] <thumper> meoblast001: yes it can take ages
[04:55] <meoblast001> thumper: i have some interupt errors
[04:55] <thumper> meoblast001: for Launchpad I've seen 30 minutes :(
[04:56] <meoblast001> thumper: http://rafb.net/p/oXw9Ow73
[04:57] <meoblast001> thumper: http://rafb.net/p/oXw9Ow73.html rather
[04:57] <meoblast001> should i ask in bzr?
[04:57] <thumper> meoblast001: I'd upgrade bzr
[04:57] <thumper> meoblast001: 1.13 was released several weeks ago
[04:58] <meoblast001> thumper: ok
[04:58] <thumper> meoblast001: and you are using a release candidate
[04:58] <meoblast001> lovely... large download
[04:58] <meoblast001> i wonder how much i have to update on this system that was broken for a month
[04:58] <meoblast001> thumper: while this updates... i'm having another problem
[04:59] <thumper> meoblast001: be quick, the kitchen is calling
[04:59] <meoblast001> thumper: have to load the example
[05:00] <meoblast001> thumper: hmm appears lp has an outdated security certificate
[05:01] <meoblast001> thumper: ok.... it's almost done loading
[05:01] <meoblast001> hmmm it wont come up
[05:01] <meoblast001> i'll describe the problem
[05:02] <meoblast001> thumper: ever commit i make on this desktop computer comes up as Braden Walters but ones made on my laptop come up as meoblast001
[05:02] <meoblast001> thumper: they are both the same LP account
[05:32] <meoblast001> thumper: i still have RC1
[07:44] <meoblast001> hi
[07:44] <meoblast001> $ bzr whoami | Braden Walters <braden@Compy>
[07:44] <meoblast001> how do i change that to say meoblast001
[07:44] <meoblast001> my laptop says meoblast001
[07:52] <spiv> meoblast001: "bzr whoami meoblast0001"
[07:52] <meoblast001> spiv: k thanks... will that fix all my previous commits or no?
[07:52] <spiv> No, it won't change previous commits.
[07:53] <meoblast001> spiv: is there a way to change the previous commits?
[07:53] <spiv> You could perhaps use the rebase plugin or export the history with the fastimport plugin and edit that... but nothing builtin.
[07:54] <spiv> (And if you've already published your branch its probably too late anyway)
[07:54] <meoblast001> spiv: :(
[07:54] <meoblast001> spiv: can launchpad operators do it for me?
[07:54] <meoblast001> if it's too late
[07:55] <spiv> Well, you can overwrite the history of your launchpad branch yourself with "bzr push --overwrite"
[07:55] <spiv> But that's not the problem, the problem is that people may have already taken a copy of that code.
[07:55] <meoblast001> spiv: i think only a few people have just to play around with
[07:56] <spiv> You can at least change overwrite it so that in future people will get the fixed version, but you can't automatically find and edit what's on other people's hard disks ;)
[07:56] <meoblast001> i'm the only programmer and the other 2 people are a musician and 3d artist, they give me everything on the forums
[07:56] <meoblast001> spiv: or can i? >:) :P
[07:57] <spiv> But if you replace the history of the published branch with a "fixed" history, then be aware that you won't be able to merge from people that branched from the original history.
[07:57] <spiv> (And they won't be able to merge from your new history)
[07:58] <spiv> Hmm, dinner time...
[07:58] <meoblast001> spiv: eh... i'll keep it how it is so long that it doesn't interfere with ohlo
[07:58] <meoblast001> h
[08:38] <meoblast001> no
[08:39] <meoblast001> it's still not worknig
[08:39] <meoblast001> https://code.launchpad.net/~mysticgalaxies/amethyst-mm/devel
[08:39] <meoblast001> i want everything to look just like revisions 1 - 10
[08:43] <meoblast001> :(
[08:48] <meoblast001> is anyone here?
[08:57] <meoblast001> back
[08:57] <meoblast001> i'm so confused
[09:12] <meoblast001> how do i uncommit a change?
[09:18] <meoblast001> hi Lure hi epsy
[09:18] <epsy> hi
[09:20] <meoblast001> dang it... my mom took my blank cd's and everyone is sleeping
[09:20] <meoblast001> sorry for the offtopic.. i just had to speak my mind real quick
[09:29] <wgrant> meoblast001: 'bzr uncommit' might help you uncommit
[09:29] <wgrant> And #bzr might in general be more helpful for this sort of question.
[09:29] <meoblast001> wgrant: yeah.. i was having trouble pushing but i figured it out
[09:29] <meoblast001> had to overwrite
[09:31] <wgrant> In general it's a pretty bad idea to rewrite history like that on public branches.
[09:37] <meoblast001> wgrant: it's a relatively new project
[09:37] <meoblast001> i've gtg
[09:37] <wgrant> Even so.
[09:37] <meoblast001> wgrant: yeah... i know what you mean
[09:37] <wgrant> Everybody knows that bad things happen if you go back in time to fix things.
[09:37] <meoblast001> wgrant: ha... well... i made the commit a good 15 minutes before fixing it
[09:37] <meoblast001> i've gtg to bed really bad though
[09:37] <meoblast001> good night
[09:37] <wgrant> Night.
[11:39] <AnAnt> Hello , regarding question 62612, I found out that it was not completely solved, the packages in PPA didn't get moved from ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntume.team to ppa.launchpad.net/sabily.team
[14:48] <ryanakca> bzr push to launchpad seems to hang at ``[|                   ] Transferring:Walking content. 450/608''... anything I can do to prod it along?
[14:48] <ryanakca> ^C gives ``bzr: ERROR (ignored): The medium '<bzrlib.smart.medium.SmartSSHClientMedium object at 0x2fafc90>' has reached its concurrent request limit. Be sure to finish_writing and finish_reading on the currently open request.''
[14:51] <savvas> ryanakca: I'm not an expert on bzr, but are you trying to push more than one branches at the same time?
[14:52] <ryanakca> savvas: Nope...
[14:52] <ryanakca> savvas: at least, not according to ps...
[14:52] <savvas> did you break any push with ctrl-c?
[14:56] <ryanakca> I might have... but netstat -plant doesn't show any open connections to a canonical host...
[14:57] <savvas> ryanakca: try: bzr break-lock -v lp:location
[14:57] <mwhudson> ryanakca: what version of bzr are you using?
[14:57] <savvas> or wait for mwhudson :)
[14:58] <ryanakca> 1.13rc1
[14:59] <ryanakca> ... when pushing, I seem to get three connections to <IP_ADDRESS> (crowberry.canonical.com) ... is that normal?
[15:00] <ryanakca> ... and dropped down to one, but no progress... still hanging at 459/608 :/
[15:00] <mwhudson> ryanakca: unfortunately pushing from 1.13 to 1.12 (which is what launchpad is running right now) kinda sucks
[15:01] <mwhudson> ryanakca: if you can upgrade to bzr.dev, it should be much better
[15:01] <mwhudson> ryanakca: or wait until launchpad runs 1.13 (wednesday)
[15:02] <ryanakca> mwhudson: Hmm... no bzr.dev packages for jaunty?
[15:02] <mwhudson> ryanakca: try the ~bzr-nightly-ppa
[15:02] <mwhudson> ?
[15:02] <mwhudson> ryanakca: https://edge.launchpad.net/~bzr-nightly-ppa/+archive/ppa
[15:02] <ryanakca> mwhudson: thanks
[16:41] <popey> hi, is it possible to get a team deleted from launchpad? If so, how does one do that?
[16:42] <andrea-bs> popey: only admins can delete teams, so you need to ask a question on launchpad: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[16:45] <popey> ok, will do
[16:58] <savvas> do the PPAs search for dependencies in themselves?
[16:59] <savvas> ah they do: Get:4 http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release.gpg [307B]
[18:23] <cyberix> I just realized I have a problem with
[18:24] <cyberix> "This bug affects me too (change)"
[18:24] <cyberix> where change is a link
[18:24] <cyberix> it always twists my brain on a knor
[18:24] <cyberix> knot
[18:25] <cyberix> I'd file an improvement request, but I'm not sure how it could be improved
[18:25] <cyberix> and I also want to know, if someone else has the same problem
[18:27] <cyberix> Obviously "affects me" is not a good way for having a poll on this ;-)
[18:47] <cyberix> checkbox!
[19:14] <cyberix> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/350502
[19:41] <johnjosephbachir> Hola.
[19:41] <johnjosephbachir> if i changed the name of a branch on LP, what's the most sensical way for me to tell this to my local branch
[19:41] <johnjosephbachir> of that branch
[20:37] <rockstar> johnjosephbachir, What exactly are you trying to do?
[20:38] <johnjosephbachir> rockstar: i figured it out
[20:38] <johnjosephbachir> push with remember was sufficient
[20:39] <rockstar> johnjosephbachir, Yea, that's what I was going to recommend.
[20:39] <johnjosephbachir> cool