[12:52] <ingvar> Hello. A local team discovered a few days ago that CVE-2020-11653 is probably _not_ fixed in Ubuntu focal. I have added our findings to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/varnish/+bug/1971504
[12:53] <ingvar> In short: The patch set added to fix that CVE for varnish-6.2.1 is not complete, and the version of varnish installed with latest focal updates is still potentially vulnerable for DOS attacks.
[13:12] <mdeslaur> pfsmorigo: ^


[05:51] <stuNNed_> Lathiat, it's ok once you get around the dell bios bugs
[05:51] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) i wish the AU models shiped a SXGA+ 14.1" version
[05:51] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) stuNNed_: it disables the local apic
[05:51] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) 15" is too big but you can only get it in XGA
[05:51] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) stuNNed_: yeh i know about those
[05:52] <stuNNed_> Treenaks, what is local apic?  sharing irq's or something right?
[05:52] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) http://www.adriansrojakpot.com/Speed_Demonz/New_BIOS_Guide/APIC_Function.htm
[05:53] <stuNNed_> Treenaks, thanks mate
[05:55] <stuNNed_> Treenaks, will i see system slowdown with nolapic?
[05:55] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) stuNNed_: not likely
[05:55] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) stuNNed_: or not much anyway
[05:57] <Gwildor> guys, since my hoary upgrade i dont have sound from ET anymore, can anyone help?
[05:58] <Gwildor> nvm, gotta go, ill fix it later
[05:59] <daveon> nas
[05:59] <daveon> existen los paquetes de monodevelop en ubuntu?
[06:00] <daveon> sorry
[06:00] <daveon> are avaliable in ubuntu monodevelop packages
[06:00] <daveon> ?
[06:00] (BrittBS/#ubuntu) daveon, si ... uno momeno :)
[06:01] <ogra> https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BreakMyUbuntu
[06:01] <ogra> daveon: tseng ^^^^
[06:01] (BrittBS/#ubuntu) ogra, that's what i was looking for
[06:01] <ogra> :)
[06:02] <wfx> hi, how can i turn off the automount function (cd's)
[06:02] <stuNNed_> ah, looks like i can get by with just acpi_irq_isa=7
[06:02] (BrittBS/#ubuntu) wfx, gnome-volume-manager
[06:03] <stuNNed_> now to test this weekend if building piix into kernel and not as module fixes the godamned linuxant issue
[06:03] (BrittBS/#ubuntu) wfx, er ... the capplet for it anyway :)
[06:03] (BrittBS/#ubuntu) wfx, gnome-volume-properties
[06:03] <ogra> wfx: computer->desktop settings->Removable Media (Wechseldatentrger in german :))
[06:04] <wfx> thx ;-)
[06:04] <unperson> So I just tried to load eBay's front page with firefox and had it just go busy and become completely unresponsive for several minutes.  Anyone else see this behavior?
[06:06] <kris_> has anybody had any bluetooth experience in ubuntu?
[06:06] <kris_> i am interested in gnokii alternatives...
[06:06] <kris_> to connect to my phone.
[06:07] <riffic> hey ubuntu chat
[06:07] <daniels> works for me fine with my sony ericsson k700i
[06:07] <kris_> so, to use as modem and to have contact (and mybe calendar) synching
[06:07] <riffic> can someone help me try to fix some hard lock problems as I am still having the same issue as yesterday
[06:08] <riffic> gnome hard locks my system when it loads
[06:08] <riffic> hoary
[06:08] <TenPlus1> hi peeps
[06:09] <TenPlus1> Can I ask the room a Q?
[06:09] <imnes> Is there a meta package of development tools available, something that will give me the typical compilers and build tools or do I need to isntall them all individually?
[06:10] <TenPlus1> Does everyone using the Ubuntu distro, do you think it's easy to use and has the s/w u need ??
[06:10] <kris_> has anybody had any bluetooth experience in ubuntu?
[06:11] <imnes> TenPlus1: yes, but I wish it could include the non-supported types, like Java, Macromedia natively instead of having to go through the extra steps to isntall them.
[06:11] <zenwhen> hey riffic
[06:11] <natex> TenPlus1, it has alot of good ubuntu packages and there is always the "universe" repository
[06:11] <tewny> its a desktop distro.  has everything you would expect a desktop distro to have though it seems a bit light to me
[06:11] <ogra> kris_: daniels answered you
[06:11] <TenPlus1> Didn't know java and flash weren't included... bummer...
[06:11] <kris_> ogra: thanks
[06:11] <ogra> kris_: :)
[06:11] <TenPlus1> but easily installed as u say...  does it have good network support for sharing the .net with others ?
[06:12] <imnes> TenPlus1: They're easy to install, just not in by default.
[06:12] <kris_> daniels: what software are u using?
[06:12] <imnes> You mean like internet connection sharing?
[06:12] <imnes> or sharing your files on the network?
[06:12] <wfx> ogra, xchat desteroy specialchars like the  in wecheseldatentrger.
[06:12] <ogra> TenPlus1: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:12] <TenPlus1> yeah... both, sharing files with a WinXP laptop and the internet connectoin also
[06:12] <ogra> wfx: oops
[06:13] <daniels> kris_: gnome-phone-manager, gnome-obex-server, bluephone
[06:13] <imnes> TenPlus1: I'm not sure, I've never tried to share my files with a windows machine.
[06:13] <kris_> daniels: and it works? syncing as well?
[06:13] <daniels> kris_: seems to
[06:14] <TenPlus1> I know you can share files/folders/printers using Samba network, it's just the Internet sharing that confuses me
[06:15] <kris_> daniels: thanks, will give it a try
[06:15] <imnes> Looks like it does have samba support in the network options.
[06:15] <TenPlus1> kewl...
[06:15] <imnes> I don't know for internet connection sharing but you can do that from the command prompt if you have to.
[06:16] <wfx> where can i find a package for cinelerra (its a movie editor -> http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3)
[06:16] <TenPlus1> When installing Ubuntu, do you need 1 partition on multiple ?
[06:16] <imnes> You pick a drive, it will erase all partitions and setup itself.
[06:17] <natex> TenPlus1, one will do. You can let it pick how to partition or you can do it yourself.
[06:17] <TenPlus1> wow, easy install... :)
[06:19] <ogra> kris_:
[06:21] <ogra> kris_: hehe
[06:22] <kris_> ogra: :)
[06:22] <wfx> for what is the user hal
[06:22] <ogra> wfx: for hal ?
[06:23] <wfx> ogra, in /etc/group are entrys like this cdrom:x:24:wfx,hal
[06:23] <wfx> how is hal?
[06:23] <ogra> wfx: you know kubricks 2001 ?
[06:24] <TenPlus1> Will Ubuntu read/write to NTFS partitions ok ?
[06:24] <wfx> :) yes i have it
[06:24] <ogra> wfx: its a crazy computer :)
[06:24] <unperson> Eh, so can someone else out there with the standard warty firefox build take a look at www.ebay.com and tell me if you can view the page ok?
[06:24] <ogra> wfx: just kidding
[06:24] <ogra> wfx: its the Hardware Abstraction Layer
[06:24] <ogra> wfx: shown through your deviace manager
[06:24] <natex> TenPlus1, have you used alinux distro that writes to NTFS ok?
[06:25] <cuga> unperson,  yeah works fine, are you on an amd64?
[06:25] <TenPlus1> not really, only read from
[06:25] <unperson> cuga, Nope, just a celeron.
[06:25] <cuga> unperson, then i have no clue what the problem is, firefox 0.9.3 in ubuntu works fine
[06:25] <natex> TenPlus1, NTFS is supported by the kernel. not the distro.
[06:26] <TenPlus1> ohhh... thx for the info
[06:26] <unperson> cuga, Bizarre.  Maybe it's a video issue specific to my chipset or something.
[06:26] <natex> you bet.
[06:26] <cuga> unperson, does it crash?
[06:26] <unperson> cuga, In other words, maybe it's X that's really the problem, not actually firefox.
[06:26] <ogra> unperson: works from germany .....0.9.3 warty
[06:26] <TenPlus1> thx for the help peeps :)
[06:27] <unperson> cuga, That program becomes completely unresponsive.  But it can be shutdown with a kill -TERM.
[06:27] <ogra> unperson: other sites with this prob ?
[06:27] <unperson> ogra, Nope, it's the first and only one.
[06:28] <ogra> unperson: does it happen everytime ?
[06:28] <unperson> cuga, After it goes unresponsive, then there's come weirdness with switching between windows on that virtual desktop, though it still works if I switch using the taskbar or switch to another desktop.
[06:28] <superted> anyone got the xmms-mp4 rep?
[06:28] <unperson> ogra, Yes.
[06:28] <cuga> unperson, weird, definatly something funky
[06:29] <unperson> Well, let me try to apt-get update the lasted xserver patch just in case that miraculously fixes the issue.
[06:29] <unperson> Thanks for the info.  Useful but discouraging that it's just me.
[06:30] <WW> Has anybody edited a wiki page recently?  My cursor keys don't work in the wiki editor.
[06:31] <rip024> after reading some about ubuntu I'm little lost will dvd's play or not
[06:31] <ogra> rip024: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:32] <ogra> rip024: they will with these packages :)
[06:34] <rip024> but my guess is I will not be able to back my dvd's and cd's up true
[06:35] <ogra> rip024: why not ?
[06:36] <rip024> that's where I get lost  if I use those packages I'll be able to copy my dvd's I buy and play on my dvd player
[06:37] <ogra> rip024: i am not copying dvds, but all that i tried played fine on ,y laptop.... ripping .ogg files from audio CDs works fine....
[06:38] <ogra> rip024: i think there is als a program for copying dvd to disk in the marillat repository mentioned on the wiki
[06:38] <ogra> also
[06:38] <nils_> I just installed ubuntu, can anyone please give me a debian mirror I can add in synoptics?
[06:39] <nils_> I'am not sure if I shall have sid/sarge/stable...
[06:39] <ogra> nils_: dont do that.... all debian packages are in ubuntu
[06:39] <nils_> hmm?
[06:39] <nils_> I cannot find mplayer/xine in synoptics
[06:39] <ogra> nils_: first enable universe: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SynapticHowto
[06:40] <ogra> nils_: then add marillat and multiverse: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:40] <JDahl> nils_, add multiverse, restricted to /etc/apt/sources.list. Mplayer is not in debian either, but very easy to compile from source
[06:40] <eruin> whats in marillat?
[06:40] <WW> Hey ogra, could you try something for me?  Try editing a wiki page, say WikiSandBox, and see if your cursor keys work in the editor.
[06:40] <unikum> what the comand to unpack *.tar.bz2?
[06:40] <eruin> tar xjvf *.tar.bz2
[06:41] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) unikum: tar jxvf <tarchive> or use file roller (douvble click it in nautilus)
[06:41] <ogra> WW: a sec.... away for a min....
[06:41] <yz> tar -jxf
[06:41] <JDahl> marillat is unofficial mplayer debs I think.. but mplayer works much better if you compile yourself, otherwise things like fullscreen might not work
[06:41] <eruin> anyone know of some openoffice unstable debs ?
[06:42] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) JDahl: uh
[06:42] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) JDahl: the "compile yourself" is gentoo fud
[06:42] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) JDahl: the packages work fine on any debian system
[06:43] <eruin> can I safely use kernel-sources-2.6.9 instead of the linux-sources packages to compily my own ubuntu kernel?
[06:43] <eruin> e
[06:43] <rip024> hmm ogra your right well soon as my download done I'll try this  its going to be a fun night
[06:43] <JDahl> Treenaks, I know - but I could never get fullscreen mode working with marillat's packages... I works if I compile it myself
[06:44] <unikum> doesnt work with tar xjvf :( i tried the file roller but cant see /.icons with that
[06:44] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) JDahl: change "vo=x11" to "vo=xv" in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[06:44] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) JDahl: simple
[06:44] <rip024> any tips I have 2 harddrives  80 and 160 gig  MSI motherboard 2.2 intel pro  older 32mb ATI video card
[06:44] <eruin> unikum, you can rightclick the filelist and select show hidden
[06:44] <yz> another way unikum is to run: bunzip2 -c <file.tar.bz2> | tar -xvf-
[06:45] <kaltertee> Hi
[06:45] <yz> leave out the < and >
[06:45] <kaltertee> I've got a question
[06:45] <gen|out> ask away
[06:45] <unikum> ahh, thanks!
[06:46] <JDahl> Treenaks, hmm... I guess so, ./configure; make; make install is simple also (and avoids unofficial debs)
[06:46] <ogra> rip024: for ati 3d you will like this one: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:46] <kaltertee> I want to use kernel 2.6.9 because of acpi but after compiling ubuntu don't know my cards
[06:47] <bugz_> why ubuntu dont support auto turnoff when i shutdown the system?
[06:48] <kaltertee> @bugz_ you need acpi or apm
[06:48] <ogra> WW: where is the prob ?
[06:49] <kaltertee> @bugz_ try to change in grub
[06:49] <WW> ogra: It is strange. My cursor keys don't do anything when I am in the wiki editor. I can still type, and I can use the mouse to move to different places.
[06:49] <bugz_> kaltertee: i need acpi or apm running?
[06:49] <ogra> WW: works for me, even pg-up/dn
[06:50] <kaltertee> yes in my case it worked
[06:50] <bugz_> kaltertee: im in dual boot (fedora and ubuntu) using fedora's grub
[06:50] <rip024> thanks ya'll
[06:50] <kaltertee> ok, in the menu.lst ist acpi=off behind the ubuntu-kernel
[06:51] <kaltertee> ... just delete 'acpi=off' and try it
[06:52] <kaltertee> i want to use kernel 2.6.9 with all drivers
[06:52] <kaltertee> someone able to help me
[06:52] <riffic> zenwhen: fix my gnome plz
[06:52] <riffic> no one here wants to help me
[06:52] <zenwhen> how did you break your gnome
[06:52] <zenwhen> and what about it is broken
[06:53] <WW> ogra: Stranger still... the keys work in some pages, not others.
[06:53] <riffic> zenwhen: it locks up when it loads
[06:53] <zenwhen> riffic, I am fairly positive that the fix for gnome issues was buying me this
[06:53] <zenwhen> http://www.creative.com/zenmicro/
[06:53] <ogra> WW: did you tweak your keymap anyhow ?
[06:53] <riffic> and when i use xfce, it locks up when i launch nautilus
[06:54] <zenwhen> odd
[06:54] <riffic> zenwhen: get an ipod
[06:54] <zenwhen> I dont like ipods
[06:54] <riffic> like hard lock
[06:54] <riffic> i cant ping my machine or ssh when it locks
[06:54] <riffic> its totally fucked
[06:54] <WW> ogra: No, at least not intentionally, since I wouldn't know how to do that. )
[06:54] <zenwhen> I dont want a penny of my money going towards the continued survival of Apple Inc.
[06:55] <genr> apple will never die
[06:55] <zenwhen> riffic, did oyu upgrade to hoary?
[06:55] <riffic> yes
[06:55] <zenwhen> genr, I am glad you are a psychic.
[06:55] <zenwhen> :D
[06:55] <genr> :)
[06:55] <riffic> i've been using hoary for a couple weeks now
[06:55] <zenwhen> riffic, why>
[06:55] <zenwhen> ?
[06:55] <zenwhen> Oh
[06:55] <zenwhen> Well
[06:55] <zenwhen> I am not using hoary/.
[06:55] <riffic> it just started this after an apt-get update/upgrade a day or two ago
[06:55] <zenwhen> I cant help.
[06:55] <riffic> any way i can downgrade from hoary to warty?
[06:56] <zenwhen> Im using warty until hoary is "done".
[06:56] <genr> this is why it is developmental
[06:56] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) riffic: nope
[06:56] <riffic> or at least downgrade what is broken
[06:56] <unikum> where is ubuntu server? i get pretty good connection with apt-get
[06:56] <zenwhen> When hoary is "out", Im going to do a fresh install.
[06:56] <riffic> i need to find out what is broken first
[06:56] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) riffic: what happens?
[06:56] <riffic> because i have no idea why i'm locking
[06:56] <riffic> Lathiat: hard lock when i launch gnome
[06:56] <WW> ogra: In the pages where the cursor keys do nothing, the page-up and page-down move the whole web up and down, not the text within the editor.
[06:56] <nils_> when I run gmplayer I get "ALSA lib control.c:654:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL /dev/mixer 72%"
[06:56] <s0cks> Back
[06:56] <riffic> using xfce currently, but also hard locks when nautilus launches
[06:56] <nils_> any ideas which device I should use instead?
[06:57] <riffic> so I'm assuming that nautilus is doing something nauty
[06:57] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) riffic: mm nasty
[06:57] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) riffic: hard to track that one down
[06:57] <riffic> yeah
[06:57] <riffic> jdub tried to help me yesterday
[06:57] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) hah
[06:57] <ogra> WW: for me it happens only on framed sites if the focus isnt in the frame .... but thats a frame issue....nothing else....
[06:57] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) i might as well not bother thenhaha
[06:58] <riffic> the system is completely frozen when it happens though
[06:58] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) riffic: did you look for signs of stuffin logs?
[06:58] <riffic> no cursor, keyboard, can't ping or ssh
[06:58] <zenwhen> nils_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2992&highlight=mplayer
[06:58] <riffic> logs?
[06:58] <zenwhen> that will fix your iissue
[06:58] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) riffic: wel there are logs in /var/log
[06:58] <riffic> i'm sort of clueless
[06:58] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) riffic: if you look in syslog,might be some hitns as to why it crashed
[06:58] <riffic> okay let me check in there
[06:58] <ogra> riffic: probably something with your users config files, did you try to add a new user and reproduce it ?
[06:58] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) riffic: ahh ok be hard for you to decipher the crap in there then :)
[06:59] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) riffic: Maybe a fresh install to warty is the easiest choice here
[06:59] <riffic> ogra: no I didn't do that either
[06:59] <riffic> =(
[06:59] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) ogra: pretty harsh if a user login is causing a hard system lock tho
[06:59] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) sounds more like a hard drive or ram error but since its consistent thats a tad doubtful
[06:59] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) riffic: how much ram do you have?
[06:59] <goonie> I need help with enabling spdif on my MSI 650 Hermes machine
[06:59] <riffic> 768
[07:00] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) hrm
[07:00] <riffic> 3 256 dimms
[07:00] <riffic> sdram
[07:00] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) just thinking if it was low
[07:00] <riffic> its stable
[07:00] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) might be hitting swap and you mnight have bad swap
[07:00] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) but it won tbe that
[07:00] <riffic> its been stable for a long time
[07:00] <ogra> Lathiat: if its working with xfce its no HW issue i guess
[07:00] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) ogra: not necesarily, probably not, but its possible
[07:01] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) riffic: if your around anotehr time i might have more time to help
[07:01] <ogra> Lathiat: everything is possible :)
[07:01] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) right now its 2am and i realy need to sleep :)
[07:01] <riffic> yeah i'm in here off and on
[07:01] <riffic> alright, get some sleep
[07:01] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) ogra: just like, for example, if he had bad swap, loading xfce is fairly light where as loading GNOME uses alot of memory and could cus it to start swapping and hit the bad bit, that sortof thing
[07:01] <ogra> riffic: try if it happens with a new user
[07:01] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) ogra: or if it was bad ram
[07:02] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) ogra: using gnome used more that hit it , etc
[07:02] <WW> ogra: Thanks for checking.
[07:02] (Lathiat/#ubuntu) im off, laters all
[07:02] <ogra> nicght _)
[07:02] <ogra> urgh
[07:02] <ogra> night :)
[07:03] <goonie> ogra: just wanted to thank you for all your efforts when you tried to help me with my wireless network problem.. I found a solution of sorts. I have to disable eth0 for wlan0 to work properly
[07:03] <ogra> riffic: if it happens there too, its a systemwide issue, else its only about changed setup stuff
[07:03] <ogra> goonie: so it works :)  thats great !
[07:04] <goonie> ogra: yup.. finally I can use Ubuntu for everything I do :)
[07:04] <nils_> I've a ati mobility 7500, are there any guide to get tvout working?
[07:05] <riffic> should stuff like this worry me: Nov 20 13:00:46 localhost kernel: hde: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[07:05] <riffic> Nov 20 13:00:46 localhost kernel: hde: dma_intr: error=0x84 { DriveStatusError BadCRC }
[07:05] <ogra> riffic: yep
[07:06] <unikum> is there any command to past into a shell? ctrl+v doesnt work...
[07:06] <riffic> =(
[07:06] <riffic> really?
[07:06] <riffic> like how badly?
[07:06] <kris_> is there anything wrong installing totem-xine and thusly removing ubuntu-desktop?
[07:07] <ogra> riffic: this are read write errors of your harddisk
[07:07] <WW> unikum: Select the text with right-click-and-drag.  Insert the text somewhere else with middle-click.
[07:07] <ogra> kris_: nope, ubuntu-desktop is a empty package
[07:08] <mirak> do you see this signs :    ?
[07:08] <WW> unikum: I mean, select with LEFT-click-and-drag.
[07:08] <ogra> i see signs !
[07:08] <WW> mirak: Old MacDonald had a farm?
[07:08] <genr> e i e i o
[07:09] <ogra> o for euro ?
[07:09] <ogra> hmm
[07:09] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) JDahl: unofficial debs are better than no package management at all :)
[07:09] <mirak> WW: :) it was just accent tests
[07:09] (mjr/#ubuntu) mirak, they look fine
[07:09] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) JDahl: at least with unofficial debs you get a warning that it'll break (dependencies)
[07:09] <ogra> mirak: nice accent ;)
[07:10] <WW> mirak: Yup, they showed up fine here.
[07:10] <mirak> well I am accused of trolling on a french channel because I don't use iso-8859-15
[07:10] <ogra> mirak: utf-8 ?
[07:10] <tvon|x31> stupid french
[07:10] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) mirak: explain them that UTF-8 is the way of the future
[07:11] <mirak> Treenaks: explain it to them
[07:11] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) or just don't use accents.. see if they care
[07:11] <mirak> they don't understand I will not change my charset each time somebody is not happy
[07:11] <mirak> utf8 only is a problem for them
[07:11] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) neither will they..
[07:11] <kris_> does anybody know why capitain hook died?
[07:11] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) mirak: it's a problem for mirc..
[07:12] <kris_> -he wiped his ass with a wrong hand.....
[07:12] <genr> kris_, aligator was hungry
[07:12] <mirak> I see iso-8859-15 accent with utf8, so by definition   utf8 > iso-8859-15  , so it's logical and more practical to use
[07:12] <mirak> it
[07:12] <mirak> kris_: you want to use your phone joker ?
[07:13] <Phr0stByte> int SDL_BlitSurface(SDL_Surface *src, SDL_Rect *srcrect, SDL_Surface *dst, SDL_Rect *dstrect);
[07:13] <Phr0stByte> sorry, wrong channel
[07:13] <s0cks> So once I get the ISO file, burn that to bootable data disk?
[07:15] <kris_> mirak: did not understand u.
[07:16] <ogra> s0cks: yep
[07:16] <netmonk> hello! anyone with idea how i can erase cd-rw in Ubuntu?
[07:17] <ogra> netmonk: nautilus does it automatically ir you write it
[07:17] <kris_> netmonk: k3b?
[07:18] <ogra> if
[07:18] <diesel> I am trying to set up Ubuntu for my sister.  The wastebasket is not on the desktop (and nowhere that I can find).  How do I add the wastebasket to the desktop?
[07:19] <__randy__> diesel, you can get to it using the trash applet.  If it's not on the panel you can it to it
[07:19] <diesel> what's it to it????
[07:20] <riffic> ogra this hard drive read/write thing is sort of scaring me.. any way I could test the drive and see if its ready to fail?
[07:20] <netmonk> ogra, yes I saw that, I was just wondering if there is an option or command just for erase. Also, is there a way to set up nautilus-burn not to burn the files with root owner. After I burn the cd, the files are invisible to me, and can copy them only when i cd to /dev/cdrom. any ideas?
[07:21] <riffic> this drive is my /home dir with all my media I really would like to make sure it doesn't die without backups
[07:21] <__randy__> diesel, add it to it, sorry about that
[07:22] <diesel> That's my question, how do I add the wastebasket to the desktop?
[07:22] <ogra> netmonk: i ve never had this probs.....my cdroms are just fine on a default warty.....
[07:22] <scoon> diesel: there is a setting in the gconf editor
[07:22] <netmonk> ogra, hm...
[07:22] <s0cks> Wow.
[07:22] <s0cks> Holy crap
[07:22] <ogra> netmonk: did you tewak your system anyhow ?
[07:22] <ogra> tweak
[07:23] <netmonk> ogra, no to my knowledge ;)
[07:23] <mirak> kris_: don't matter
[07:24] <s0cks> I just need the ISO file and nothing else, right?
[07:24] <diesel> scoon, there is a lot of settings in the gconf editor.  Can you give any more specific details?
[07:24] <ogra> s0cks: yep
[07:25] <ogra> s0cks: burn a disk from it
[07:25] <s0cks> ok
[07:25] <s0cks> Thanks
[07:25] <ogra> s0cks: burn burn it sa slow as you can....
[07:25] <ogra> as
[07:25] <s0cks> Really....
[07:25] <s0cks> No 48x burn?
[07:26] <ogra> s0cks: nope.... better 8x
[07:26] <scoon> diesel:  apps -> nautilus -> desktop -> trash_icon_visible
[07:26] <s0cks> 8x is ideal?
[07:27] <diesel> scoon, thanks
[07:27] <ogra> s0cks: should be ok.... with fast burning the cd sometimes has errors, so if you get errors on cd bootup, try a slower burn
[07:28] <scoon> diesel: np
[07:28] <osiris_22> so are these 3d drivers a chore to install?
[07:29] <s0cks> ogra : Thanks for the help.
[07:30] <s0cks> 12 percent downloaded, but this is not a good time to download large files on my computer.
[07:30] <LeeColleton> is there a way to access evolution address books from openoffice?  The debian package openoffice.org-evolution isn't available in universe.
[07:30] <s0cks> I am screwing with the connection and stuff.
[07:30] <will> osiris_22:nvida or ati?
[07:31] <osiris_22> nvidia
[07:32] <will> osiris_22: go to their website...Nvidia have very good support for Linux :)
[07:32] <simont> I've mounted an ntfs partition to /media/multimedia - I can browse it as root but not my user, what permission do I need to change on this folder?
[07:32] <pepsicoda> how can i get xchat to open a new firefox window when i click a url, rather than using the contextual menu?
[07:32] <simont> I've mounted an ntfs partition to media/multimedia - I can browse it as root but not my user, what permission do I need to change on this folder?
[07:32] <osiris_22> i tried to mount my ntfs partition
[07:33] <osiris_22> but it ways it couldnt read the contents of thbe drive it ticked me off
[07:33] <El_Azar> hi
[07:33] <El_Azar> somebody from spain???
[07:33] <netmonk> simont, I don't think you can mount ntfs partition and be able to do anything else but read from it
[07:34] <will> pepsicoda: that pisses me off too
[07:34] <simont> THats all I want to d, is read the partition
[07:34] <pepsicoda> hrm
[07:35] <will> simont: you have to set the permissions man chmod
[07:35] <s0cks> a 3 megabit connection is 3000 kbits, right?
[07:36] <will> s0cks:nearly
[07:37] <will> just under 300
[07:37] <will> kb/ps
[07:37] <will> Kb/s
[07:38] <simont> will chmod 755 on media/windows work?
[07:38] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) simont: no
[07:39] <simont> what will TReenaks?
[07:40] <mockingbird> anyone know of a good Cad program?
[07:40] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) simont: unmounting, mount with correct options
[07:40] <socks> Done with my net tweaking
[07:40] <ogra> simont: mount it the right way
[07:40] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) simont: (i.e. just use the Disks menu)
[07:41] <simont> I have already added the partitions to my fstab file, and I can browse them from root, but not from normal user
[07:42] <socks> Had to restart the download though
[07:42] <simont> It says I do not have the necessary permissions to view the folder
[07:43] <ogra> simont: show your fstab line
[07:43] <will> Autocad
[07:44] <simont> it is /dev/hda5	/media/multimedia	ntfs	ro,user,auto	0	0
[07:46] <ogra> /dev/hda5 /media/multimedia ntfs ro,user,auto,umask=0,0,0 0 0
[07:46] <osiris_22> that wasnt so hard
[07:46] <ogra> oops, better /dev/hda5 /media/multimedia ntfs ro,user,auto,umask=000 0 0
[07:47] <im_ka> hey
[07:47] <im_ka> any1 using cedega?
[07:47] <osiris_22> im getting 700fps
[07:47] <pepsicoda> 2fps
[07:48] <im_ka> how do you install multicd games?
[07:48] <im_ka> you have to unmount a busy drive
[07:49] <FTTP> anyone want to join #ubuntu-offtopic ? to discuss the sco lawsuit against ibm
[07:49] <FTTP> i was reading thru legal briefs
[07:49] <FTTP> interesting stuff
[07:50] <mockingbird> imean for linux. ilooked at qcad and pythoncad but neither was 3d
[07:50] <im_ka> any1 using cedega?
[07:51] <simont> ogra - still getting access denied
[07:51] <cardador> im_ka: me
[07:51] <ogra> simont: did you unmount it ?
[07:51] <eruin> gnome-panel-screenshot non-existant?
[07:54] <ogra> eruin: thats hoary .... its in the next gnome upstream update i read.....
[07:54] <eruin> ah ok
[07:54] <ogra> was mover to gnome-utils
[07:54] <ogra> moved
[07:54] <simont> nope. that was the problem, thanks guys
[07:55] <eruin> bah
[07:55] <eruin> everything just works in ubuntu
[07:55] <ogra> eruin: boring eh ?
[07:55] <eruin> kind of ;P
[07:55] <ogra> :)
[07:55] <stuNNed> anyone else getting system freeze with hoary?   ...maybe gamin related ?
[07:55] <eruin> not a single freeze so far
[07:56] <eruin> now to sort quicktime for firefox
[07:57] <melanie> ubuntu question: how can i change my mouse cursors?
[07:57] <imnes> im_ka: are you using Point2Play?
[07:57] <im_ka> imnes no
[07:57] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) melanie: a bit
[07:57] <ogra> eruin: mozilla-plugin-vlc is pretty good in quicktime....but lacks other areas....
[07:57] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) melanie: but it's not really easy yet
[07:57] <imnes> Use it, makes it much easier and will let you mount / unmount CDs while installing games.
[07:58] <shwouchlepuff> hello
[07:58] <stuNNed> sorry, probably not gamin related :)
[07:58] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) imnes: uh...
[07:58] <melanie> treenaks: you think it's impossible?
[07:58] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) melanie: no, it's possible, only hard
[07:58] <shwouchlepuff> what kind of package manager does ubuntu have?
[07:58] <im_ka> i've got cedega+p2p from a dubious site (it's on our forums), and p2p doesn't work. cedega works, but i can't install multicd games
[07:58] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) imnes: uh.. hal/pmount are used for that in ubuntu
[07:58] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) imnes: please keep using that
[07:58] <melanie> treenaks: aha. can you tell me?
[07:59] <im_ka> imnes: i've got cedega+p2p from a dubious site (it's on our forums), and p2p doesn't work. cedega works, but i can't install multicd games
[07:59] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) melanie: it's complicated..
[07:59] <ogra> Treenaks: probably someone should package gcursor: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=125
[07:59] <imnes> I know point2play doesn't run from within the CD path so you can unmount and swap CDs easily.  It's just less of a pain in the but.
[08:00] <nils81> why do I miss smbmount?
[08:00] <shwouchlepuff> anyone?
[08:00] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) imnes: neither does hal + pmount/nautilus
[08:00] <nils81> I have samba installed
[08:00] <imnes> Maybe unmount is the wrong word now anyway, it doesn't hold the drive busy when it's not reading from a disk so you can press the eject button...
[08:00] <imnes> Whereas if you switch to the drive, and run cedega setup.exe, you can't eject the drive.
[08:01] <melanie> where can i get gcursor?
[08:01] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) melanie: nowhere yet.
[08:01] <shwouchlepuff> what kind of package manager does ubuntu have?
[08:01] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) melanie: well, you can build from source, but that, too is a) not recommended and b) hard
[08:01] <riffic> apt
[08:01] <ogra> melanie: at the url that i provided, but you had to compile it
[08:01] <imnes> im_ka how are you starting the setup program, what command you running?
[08:01] <melanie> ok. thanks.
[08:02] <s0cks> Ugh. This download takes forever.
[08:03] <shwouchlepuff> riffic, besides the 6 month updates, does it offer rolling updates?
[08:03] <im_ka> imnes: "cedega MafiaLauncher.exe" from within /mnt/cdrom/
[08:03] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) shwouchlepuff: what do you mean? daily updates?
[08:03] <melanie> another question. which theme packages do work with ubuntu. i found some on art.gnome.org but i can't load it into the theme package manager.
[08:03] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) shwouchlepuff: yes, but those are only for advanced users
[08:03] <__daniel> hey
[08:03] <eruin> ogra, all I need really, thanks :)
[08:03] <imnes> im_ka, switcfh to your home dir cd ~    and then run cedega /mnt/cdrom/MafiaLauncher.exe
[08:03] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) melanie: gnome 2.8 themes, icon themes, window themes should all work
[08:03] <mockingbird> hows the linux filesystem compare to the windows?
[08:03] <shwouchlepuff> Treenaks, how advanced?
[08:04] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) mockingbird: it's different.
[08:04] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) shwouchlepuff: those who can figure out how to change themselves :)
[08:04] <mockingbird> treenaks: thanks
[08:04] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) shwouchlepuff: (i.e. by reading the website thoroughly)
[08:04] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) shwouchlepuff: you'll lose support :)
[08:04] <im_ka> imnes: trying that
[08:04] <shwouchlepuff> Treenaks, figure out? whats there to figure out with apt?
[08:04] <shwouchlepuff> Treenaks, oh, i see
[08:04] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) shwouchlepuff: for some people it's magic.. don't ask :)
[08:05] <im_ka> imnes: i'll nominate you for user of the year if that works
[08:05] <mockingbird> whta is the base site for programs?
[08:05] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) mockingbird: "base site" ?
[08:05] <shwouchlepuff> Treenaks, heh
[08:05] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) mockingbird: just use the package manager -- it has almost everything
[08:06] <shwouchlepuff> Treenaks, so youre saying that if i update myself, i wont get support anymore?
[08:06] <mockingbird> as in "program files"
[08:06] <melanie> Treenaks: art.gnome.org ->  Window Borders. is this correct?
[08:06] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) melanie: those too
[08:06] <imnes> Is this for real?  Someone sent me a link, www.target.com and search for Anal Massage
[08:06] <imnes> lol
[08:06] <mockingbird> not everything
[08:06] <melanie> which else?
[08:06] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) shwouchlepuff: no, just that "hoary" as it's called isn't supported yet :)
[08:06] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) mockingbird: everything worthwile
[08:06] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) melanie: don't know I don't know the site.
[08:06] <shwouchlepuff> Treenaks, huh?
[08:07] <shwouchlepuff> hoary?
[08:07] <mockingbird> maybe
[08:07] <Rene_S> Has anyone tried Linspire ?  I am wondering if its something  I could set up on my wifes computer and have her use it, she is pretty noobish.
[08:07] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) shwouchlepuff: Ubuntu only supports released distributions. Hoary is not yet released and in a state of heavy flux. It'll be supported when it's released, next April
[08:07] <cardador> Rene_S: Ubuntu is better
[08:07] <shwouchlepuff> Treenaks, what is hoary?
[08:07] <imnes> Rene_S: I use it on my laptop.  It's nice.
[08:07] <shwouchlepuff> Treenaks, that is the rolling update distro?
[08:07] <ogra> shwouchlepuff: the unstable deveolpment branch
[08:08] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) shwouchlepuff: the new, upcoming release.. current one is 'warty' (from 'Warty Warthog')
[08:08] <shwouchlepuff> ogra, i see
[08:08] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) shwouchlepuff: (Hoary Hedgehog)
[08:08] <__daniel> hi ogra :-)
[08:08] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) shwouchlepuff: www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ has details
[08:08] <shwouchlepuff> heh
[08:08] <ogra> __daniel: ooohh
[08:08] <shwouchlepuff> thanks
[08:08] <imnes> Rene_S: I think Ubuntu is better for me but for a non-technical person who just wants to be able to use it, linspire is better.
[08:08] <ogra> __daniel: hehe
[08:08] <mockingbird> ive heard of it apparently its 40 dollars
[08:08] <ogra> __daniel: drueckst dich ?
[08:08] <Rene_S> I just something she can relate too more, I suppose I could always tinker with the gnome desktop and make it more Window's like for her
[08:08] <mockingbird> linspire
[08:08] <__daniel> ogra: hab grad kein bock :-)
[08:09] <imnes> linspire will cost you $50 a year roughly for the subscription, but the click+run service is awesome.  And you get a legal licensed DVD player in it for $4.
[08:09] <Rene_S> Unless she is lying to me I doubt she can compile programs
[08:09] <Rene_S> So its not like she needs a heavy duty linux
[08:09] <cardador> Rene_S: its very easy to do that, just did it for my girlfriend. drag the top panel to the bottom, put show desktop, windows list on a single one, etc
[08:09] <osiris_22> so like do you have to defrag linux at all?
[08:10] <osiris_22> or does it stay clean its self
[08:10] <__daniel> osiris_22: stays clean
[08:10] <eruin> I wish vlc could update to gtk2
[08:10] <imnes> Rene_S: Check this out, to install any programs in Linspire you browse the site http://www.linspire.com/lindows_products_categories.php  and find the program you want (most have good descriptions and screenshots) and click the little running-man icon.  It's that easy.
[08:10] <eruin> gtk1 is was and will always be ugly ;P
[08:11] <mockingbird> if youve got a dou boot system do you still have to reboot every so long for windowas?
[08:11] <osiris_22> gtk?
[08:11] <cardador> imnes: is it better/easier than synaptic?
[08:11] <osiris_22> im using lime wire for downloads
[08:11] <PotajiTo> in ubuntu you can use synaptic yo isntall everything, it haven't got screenshots, but its free
[08:11] <osiris_22> limewire
[08:12] <osiris_22> i just seem to have  aproblem with programs freezing up on me like amsn
[08:12] <osiris_22> but nothen else does it but the programs ive put on here my self
[08:12] <melanie> melanie: test
[08:12] <imnes> cardador: synaptic is easy but it's a lot more convenient.  You can browse through programs and check them out instead of having to know what you want by name.
[08:12] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) osiris_22: did you compile them, or install the packages
[08:12] <osiris_22> i installed them from .deb files
[08:13] <cardador> imnes: but you have to pay for it, while synaptic is free
[08:13] <imnes> Also you get some nice new-user tutorials in the system, you can view some of them from http://media.linspire.com/howto/kiosk.swf
[08:13] <PotajiTo> weel imnes there a lots of pages with software for linux with descriptriosn and screnshtos, like the spanish www.softonic.com
[08:14] <imnes> PotajiTo: I agree, but whatever it costs for linspire, $1.10 a week is worth having it to me.  All in one place easy to use.  Also you get discounts on some of the commercial software.
[08:14] <mockingbird> im having problems w/ gtkpod: whenever i close out it loses the data
[08:14] <daniels> imnes: you do know you can search for stuff in synaptic, right?
[08:14] <goonie> anyone feel like helping me with configuring sound via spdif ?
[08:15] <PotajiTo> well, i will not pay 40$ for installing 5 programs
[08:15] <Rene_S> Is the default install good to go for internet use ?
[08:15] <imnes> cardador: I guess it's the same as synaptic since they're both just front-ends to apt-get, just click+run is friendly for new users.
[08:15] <imnes> daniels yeah
[08:15] <mockingbird> what about wget
[08:16] <PotajiTo> do you know if the bug about synaptic crashing with ubuntu hoary with xorg installed can be solved now?
[08:17] <cardador> PotajiTo: i have hoary and xorg, and synaptic does not crash
[08:17] <__daniel> PotajiTo: my synaptic is fine
[08:17] <Rene_S> Thanks for the info guys, I am gonna dl the ISO and look at it,  just kinda wanted some opinions
[08:17] <imnes> daniels: Once example, if I start up synaptic and search for "media player" all I get is the program 'beep'.  But if I search the click+run for it I get all this stuff http://www.linspire.com/lindows_products_search.php?q=media%20player that I can look through until I find something I want to try.
[08:18] <PotajiTo> mine closes when i click on the 90% of the packages
[08:18] <cardador> imnes: try changing the search from "name" to "name and description"
[08:18] <PotajiTo> some ppl said here that was a bug
[08:18] <ogra> imnes: have you seen the pulldown below the search entry in synaptic ?
[08:18] <PotajiTo> well, i have hoary with xorg and kde 3.3
[08:19] <imnes> yeah see, for newbies like me it's tough ;)
[08:19] <cardador> imnes: i just searched for media player and found a lot of programs
[08:19] <simont> How does xorg run?
[08:19] <huttan> imnes, use samba
[08:19] <huttan> TenPlus1, get apache and set up a webserver, it's very easy
[08:19] <huttan> TenPlus1, 1 for / and 1 for swap
[08:19] <simont> Worth upgrading to or not yet?
[08:19] <huttan> unperson, works perfect..
[08:19] <imnes> use samba for what?
[08:19] <Rene_S> Runs right by my house and forgets to install on my computer
[08:20] <huttan> how do i get mplayer to use esd as sound output ?
[08:20] <huttan> anyone know how to get mplayer working with esd ?
[08:20] <Rene_S> Look there goes that damned xorg m*&*^%f&^%$ now
[08:20] <eruin> hum, anyone know how toset the default gtk1.x theme?
[08:20] <stuNNed> will just about 100% of system freezes cured with 'noapic' kernel line?
[08:20] <cardador> simont: xorg has been very stable for me
[08:21] <eruin> simont, xorg is alot sharper than xfree here
[08:21] <cardador> simont: the only issue is when i run xcompmgr to get shadows and fade effects
[08:21] <eruin> apart from issues with my locale
[08:21] <eruin> cardador, thats a limitation of metacity
[08:21] <Rene_S> simont, aside from my poor attempt at humour xorg is quite reliable
[08:21] <imnes> Sorry guys I'm not saying synaptic sucks, it's really nice I just like the click+run thing better.  But for what it's worth I run ubuntu on my desktop that I use daily, and linspire on my laptop that I use less and share with other folks.
[08:21] <PotajiTo> xcompmgr works very nice for me indee
[08:21] <PotajiTo> d
[08:22] <eruin> PotajiTo, if you use metacity, I highly doubt that ;)
[08:22] <cardador> PotajiTo: try to enable the shadows, then run synaptic and tell me the outcome :)
[08:22] <ogra> simont: can you handle (often small sometimes bigger) breakages and a fast update cycle ?
[08:22] <PotajiTo> i use kde 3.3
[08:22] <imnes> Anybody know where I can chat with some of the wine developers?  I 'm trying to get google desktop running under linux...
[08:22] <Rene_S> I been trying to break it with Windows games all night and it never chocked once.
[08:22] <PotajiTo> it crashes cardador ;)
[08:22] <cardador> PotajiTo: bingo!
[08:22] <PotajiTo> but when i choose some packages
[08:23] <PotajiTo> but it ins't very anoying
[08:23] <ogra> eruin: try gtk-theme-switch for gtk1 stuff....
[08:23] <PotajiTo> i can pay that for having that sweeeet shadows and trasparencies
[08:23] <eruin> ogra, which package provides that?
[08:23] <ogra> PotajiTo: xcompmgr is rather unusable atm
[08:23] <eruin> ogra, nm ;)
[08:24] <cardador> PotajiTo: it only happens with synaptic?
[08:24] <ogra> eruin: gtk-theme-switch , hehe
[08:24] <Rene_S> I have a copy of a OS called Linare Linux, based on Fedora core 2, but the company never got there apt repo's up and half the os is dependant on there packages.  Looked promising but ...
[08:24] <PotajiTo> yes cardador
[08:24] <ogra> eruin: the binary is called "switch" i think.....
[08:24] <PotajiTo> it happens in more apps to you?
[08:24] <cardador> PotajiTo: hmm havent tried it that much
[08:25] <PotajiTo> I use kde 3.3 and that is the only app that crashes
[08:25] <PotajiTo> but I think that's the only gtk app I use
[08:25] <cardador> PotajiTo: ill update ubuntu from the command line and try to use it for a while
[08:25] <cardador> it=xcompmgr
[08:26] <PotajiTo> but cardador i will say that synaptic crashhes with xcompmgr and without
[08:26] <osiris_22> how do i change my screen saver in ubuntu
[08:26] <PotajiTo> since I have xorg i will say
[08:26] <cardador> PotajiTo: it only happens with xcomp for me
[08:27] <imnes> osiris_22: Click Computer Menu -> Desktop Preferences -> Screen Saver
[08:30] <imnes> Hey guys is firefox the 'official' gnome browser now or just all the distro's including it?  All the 2.8 distributions I've tried are using it instead of epiphany / galeon
[08:31] <topyli> imnes: epiphany is the gnome default
[08:31] <imnes> ok
[08:32] <cardador> PotajiTo: do you run xcompmgr every time you start your session? or do you have some script for it?
[08:33] <eruin> any dashboard debs about?
[08:33] <PotajiTo> I have an icon for it xD I just don't know how to initialize it automatically
[08:35] <Rene_S> I dont know about official, but its the most popular by the look of it
[08:38] <mockingbird> how do you upgrade to firefox 1.0?
[08:38] <imnes> I was wondering the same thing.
[08:39] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) mockingbird: wait until it's April and upgrade to hoary
[08:39] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) Firefox 1.0 is not supported for warty.
[08:39] <imnes> Do we have to uninstall the .deb and manuall install the new version?
[08:39] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) no
[08:39] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) never do anything like that.
[08:39] <mockingbird> is there anyway to force the upgrade/package
[08:39] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) wait for hoary, that's the best.
[08:39] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) mockingbird: no, it depends on lots of stuff that's only in hoary..
[08:40] <topyli> mockingbird: build the hoary source package on warty
[08:40] <mockingbird> the hoary said that its not recommended for stability
[08:40] <imnes> Can you mix platforms?  If I install ubuntu amd_64 can I then install the firefox package from ubuntu i386?
[08:42] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) imnes: no
[08:42] <citizen_freeman> is there a way I can upgrade my packages and kernel from 32bit to 64bit without reinstalling?
[08:42] <imnes> that's no fun lol
[08:42] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) citizen_freeman: no
[08:42] <citizen_freeman> thanks
[08:42] <mockingbird> what about other packages that need to be upgraded? do you just have to wait for the next release to cetch up w/ all the programs?
[08:43] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) mockingbird: just wait for the next release.
[08:43] <imnes> I guess I can grab firefox and install within my /home directory and run my local version, leave the system's install alone.
[08:43] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) mockingbird: you won't miss much anyway.. 0.9.3 is almost identical to 1.0
[08:43] <topyli> imnes: yes
[08:43] <voth> is there a nice simple way to install mplayer with all the w32 codecs ?
[08:44] <skeff> say.. after I've installed amaroK, how do I start it? Running 'amarok' gives me "Socket-path is not a link or a directory: /home/skeff/.kde/socket-core0"
[08:44] <imnes> I was playing with ff 1.0 on fedora 3 and it has a feature where it will automatically download and install plugins when pages require them, is that a firefox feature or something fedora added?
[08:44] <skeff> imnes, firefox
[08:46] (CHS/#ubuntu)
[08:48] <mockingbird> treenaks: 9.3 wont run adblock,though, as well as other extensions, and it just has many annoyying little bugs, i run 1.0 on windows
[08:50] <RubenV> mockingbird: both current hoary and warty run adblock fine
[08:51] <mockingbird> anyone heardof /running linux on iPod, w/ the uClinux kernel?
[08:54] <ogra> Treenaks: http://www.grawert.net/ubuntu/dists/warty/universe/binary-i386/gcursor_0.061-ubuntu1_i386.deb
[08:54] <PotajiTo> what is Gcursor?
[08:54] <ogra> PotajiTo: to change your mousepointer theme
[08:54] <PotajiTo> haha! I think that the default pointer in ubuntu is the best I've ever seen
[08:55] <PotajiTo> I love the waiting one
[08:55] <stuNNed> ogra, i think you told me already but you're running warty and just having fun with hoary?
[08:55] <ogra> PotajiTo: it is...but someone asked for such a feature and i think the option should be available
[08:55] <ogra> stuNNed: yep
[08:56] <topyli> there are people who want animated yellow cursors with green spots on them
[08:56] <s0cks> Wow.
[08:56] <topyli> i guess :)
[08:56] <ogra> hehe
[08:56] <stuNNed> ogra, finally got a custom kernel built with piix built in, going to test linuxant winmodem drivers this weekend.
[08:57] <topyli> damn firefox takes long to build
[08:57] <ogra> stuNNed: great
[08:57] <melanie> is there a software out there like babylon for ubuntu?
[08:57] <ogra> melanie: you wanted a gcursor package.....
[08:57] <melanie> ogra: yes
[08:57] <s0cks> 52 Percent of ubuntu downloaded.
[08:58] <counterfeitliver> can someone help me out and tell me how to find out the ip address of my box
[08:58] <s0cks> Hey ogra : How many CDs should it take?
[08:58] <topyli> counterfeitliver: ifconfig
[08:58] <ogra> melanie: its in my repository now.... (Oliver Grawert) add it from here in synaptic https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BreakMyUbuntu
[08:58] <counterfeitliver> topyli: thanks
[08:58] <mos__> can anyone tell me a good ftp frontend to use?
[08:58] <ogra> s0cks: ??
[08:59] <s0cks> the .iso for i386
[08:59] <ogra> s0cks: there is only one for each architecture
[08:59] <lil_anthony> Treenaks: are you around?
[08:59] <s0cks> I know.
[08:59] <melanie> ogra: hey thank you!
[08:59] <s0cks> One CD covers it?
[08:59] <ogra> s0cks: the release
[08:59] <ogra> melanie: ;)
[08:59] <topyli> mos__: gftp
[08:59] <melanie> ogra: i'll try it
[09:00] <mos__> topyli: ty
[09:00] <s0cks> ogra : When I burn it, one CD?
[09:00] <eruin> anyone know what needs to be done to make totem play divx?
[09:00] <s0cks> Cause I only got one.
[09:00] <eruin> currently it only plays sound for me
[09:00] <ogra> melanie: works for m...even its "quick packaged"
[09:00] <ogra> s0cks: jep
[09:00] <s0cks> ogra : Thanks bo.
[09:00] <kensai> is safe to add debian unstable repositories in sources.list and take some packages from there?
[09:00] <lil_anthony> question: is there a simple method to install java yet? i had it working on firefox .9 but when i uninstalled .9 to install 1.0 i have no more java
[09:00] <topyli> hey, where's bonobo?
[09:01] <ogra> kensai: 99% of debian is in multiverse/universe no need for that
[09:01] <kensai> ogra, I'm just searching for a more updated xfce
[09:01] <ogra> topyli: wfx couldnt pay the traffic
[09:02] <lil_anthony> and mozilla-mplayer doesn't work anymor geeze this sucks :(
[09:02] <topyli> ogra: too bad. we do need a helpful bot here
[09:02] <stuNNed> ogra, i have .deb of new industrial theme by ximian only thing is it needs to be forced to overwrite current industrial theme, interested?
[09:02] <jdz_> stuNNed, You should submit it in the mailing lists
[09:03] <ogra> kensai: will be in hoary....probably compile the hoary one from the source repo
[09:03] <stuNNed> jdz_, which one or does it matter?
[09:03] <ogra> stuNNed: take the -users list.....
[09:03] <jdz_> stuNNed, The dev list.
[09:03] <ogra> lol
[09:04] <ogra> stuNNed: decide yourself .... *g*
[09:04] <stuNNed> ogra, k thanks
[09:04] <jdz_> stuNNed, Either one is ok *grins*
[09:04] <kensai> ogra, I'm in Hoary and it is 4.0 I want 4.2
[09:05] <kensai> ogra, I should install 4.0 and wait until it gets updated?
[09:06] <ogra> kensai: hmm, so rahter the sid deb-src and apt-get build-dep  and apt-get -b source
[09:06] <ogra> kensai: is it in debian already ?
[09:06] <ogra> kensai: i mean a official debian archive
[09:07] (crimsun/#ubuntu) Candidate: 2.70-1 500 http://http.us.debian.org sid/contrib Packages
[09:07] (crimsun/#ubuntu) (mozilla-mplayer)
[09:07] <kensai> ogra, well in xfce site there is the deb packages so I believe it is out already in unstable
[09:07] <ogra> kensai: so ask for a sync on the -dev mailing list.....
[09:08] (crimsun/#ubuntu) what are you referring to, mozilla-mplayer or xfce4.2?
[09:08] <ogra> xfce
[09:08] <melanie> ogra: i tried it, but when i import Grounation theme package nothing happens. even if i change the cursors to an includec package nothing happens. do i have to restart the machine?
[09:08] <kensai> ogra, thanks
[09:08] (crimsun/#ubuntu) they will probably go to experimental in a few weeks, kensai
[09:08] <ogra> melanie: logout and in again i think
[09:08] (crimsun/#ubuntu) there are still bugs we're working on
[09:08] <kensai> crimsun, oohhh Ok]
[09:08] <melanie> ogra: ok, i'll try it
[09:11] <DimSum> Goddamnit.
[09:12] <DimSum> Just tried the Live CD in three boxes.
[09:12] <DimSum> In the first two boxes, my secondary and tertiary machines, it works perfectly; if a little slowly, due to the specs
[09:12] <DimSum> In my main box, it doesn't work.
[09:12] <DimSum> For some reason it's selecting a refresh rate that my 400 monitor can't use.
[09:15] <s0cks> Hmm... 75 hz
[09:15] <DimSum> I'm using 85Hz at the moment, at 1600x1200
[09:15] <s0cks> DimSum : Out of curiousity, on the first two boxes, how fast is the read-soeed?
[09:15] <s0cks> speed*
[09:16] <DimSum> s0cks, what, of the HDD?
[09:16] <s0cks> 1600x1200 is really good
[09:16] <DimSum> Not fast. Like, 6x and 24x
[09:16] <DimSum> But I wouldn't want to use it on those boxes anyway
[09:16] <DimSum> I want to use it on my lovely Dual Xeon system ;P
[09:16] <s0cks> DimSum : It is a Live CD, so I would guess the CD Rom
[09:16] <s0cks> I have a Dual P2 server
[09:16] <s0cks> Which is running Fedora
[09:17] <DimSum> So any idea how I can force this to use a decent graphics mode? ;P
[09:17] <s0cks> And then I have my Primary, which is running a Celeron at 2.4
[09:17] <DimSum> Overclocked the Celeron?
[09:17] <s0cks> DimSum : Edit the source?
[09:17] <s0cks> DimSum : No.
[09:18] <DimSum> How come?
[09:18] <s0cks> DimSum : Stock Gateway with the addition of a custom case, a bunch of leds, and a bunch of fans
[09:18] <s0cks> I like my computers to run nice and cool.
[09:18] <DimSum> lol, you can o/c a Northwood celeron by 50% without any temperature increase
[09:18] <DimSum> Using the stock Intel HSF
[09:18] <s0cks> 68 Degrees according to the on case thermometer
[09:18] <DimSum> 68 degrees C?!
[09:19] <DimSum> Where the hell do you live? Hades?
[09:19] <s0cks> Fahrenheit
[09:19] <DimSum> Oh.
[09:19] <s0cks> Really cold, but it has enough fans to propel a car sized hovercraft.
[09:19] <DimSum> Nice.
[09:19] <DimSum> Still, o/c it
[09:19] <s0cks> and the LEDs pulse with the music and such
[09:20] <ogra> melanie: did it work ?
[09:20] <s0cks> DimSum : I might try for a week or so, but I want reliability.
[09:20] <melanie> ogra: i just restarted my system. but nothing has changed. :-(
[09:20] <DimSum> s0cks: Got a P4 1.6a here @ 2.4
[09:20] <ogra> hmm...going to try
[09:20] <DimSum> It's been running that way for the last 3 years, and I've never had a crash
[09:20] <s0cks> DimSum : Reliability becomes an issue
[09:20] <s0cks> and this is my only PC and it is on 24.7
[09:21] <DimSum> s0cks: I used to leave mine on 24/7, without any issues
[09:21] <DimSum> Until I got the Xeons lol
[09:21] <DimSum> Which, as I'm sure you're aware, you can't overclock ;P
[09:21] <DimSum> Well, I could if I got a new board, but I'm too lazy
[09:21] <DimSum> Getting Dual 3.6s soon anyway, so it's irrelevent
[09:21] <s0cks> I just want a solid graphics card.
[09:21] <DimSum> Quadro FX 2000 :D
[09:22] <s0cks> Integrated 128.
[09:22] <muhahaha> o
[09:22] <s0cks> Couldn't be better for what I do.
[09:22] <s0cks> Games and stuff
[09:22] <s0cks> and also, school work.
[09:22] <s0cks> and some programming.
[09:22] <s0cks> It isn't really specialized.
[09:23] <DimSum> lol
[09:23] <DimSum> Same, I do all kinds of shit on this.
[09:23] <DimSum> Hence why I can't just install Ubuntu full-time
[09:23] <s0cks> The hard disk has been spinning consecutively for an hour or two now.
[09:23] <s0cks> DimSum : I dual boot.
[09:23] <DimSum> s0cks: High level of fragmentation?
[09:23] <s0cks> No.
[09:23] <s0cks> Low.
[09:23] <DimSum> Eww, dual booting.
[09:23] <s0cks> DimSum : Downloading Ubuntu
[09:24] <DimSum> ah
[09:24] <s0cks> Used to Run Red Hat, now running Fedora, about to run Ubuntu
[09:24] <s0cks> My server will still run ubuntu because i can't take it down
[09:25] <DimSum> lol
[09:25] <DimSum> I just want to get this goddamn Live CD working :\
[09:25] <s0cks> WOOHOO!~!~! 86 percent
[09:25] <ogra> melanie: works for me, got the redglass cursor now
[09:25] <s0cks> DimSum : Configure a CD-Rom boot with HD backup, or configure a bootloader to allow you to switch actively between hard disk and cd rom. In otherwords, cheap and easy dual boot
[09:26] <ogra> melanie: works for me, got the redglass cursor now
[09:26] <s0cks> ogra : Nice.
[09:26] <mirak> hi
[09:27] <mirak> the cd rom is stuck
[09:27] <cemo> hi everyone..how can i install tunderbird on the ubuntu ?
[09:27] <mirak> I can't eject it
[09:27] <melanie> ogra: ? on my machine it doesn't work. maybe i make something wrong. did you also try a downloaded theme?
[09:27] <s0cks> mirak : Hi
[09:27] <mirak> cemo: sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[09:27] <s0cks> mirak : Get a paperclip, straighten it out, and push into the small hole by the LED.
[09:27] <ogra> melanie: on, thats what i'll do next....but redglass works this far....
[09:27] <cemo> mirak, ok thanks a lot
[09:28] <melanie> ogra: ok, this i didn't try.
[09:28] <mirak> s0cks: I have nothing thin enough
[09:28] <ogra> melanie: where did you get your theme from ? if the package isnt right it cant work.....
[09:28] <s0cks> mirak : A paperclip should do it, but in the case that it doesn't, you could certainly use a really small drill bit or perhaps a staple.
[09:29] <melanie> ogra: wait, i'll tell you
[09:29] <s0cks> 90 percent!
[09:29] <ogra> melanie: the tgz  must have a certain tree sructure inside i guess....
[09:29] <mirak> s0cks: what's a paperclip ?
[09:29] <mirak> lol
[09:29] <mirak> what's a staple ?
[09:29] <cemo> mirak, does the tunderbird existent ubuntu cd ?
[09:29] <mirak> cemo: I don't know
[09:29] <s0cks> mirak : Good greif, where are you from, mars?
[09:29] <mirak> cemo: but you must add sources
[09:29] <cemo> mirak, ok thanks :)
[09:30] <mirak> cemo: you use the live cd ?
[09:30] <mirak> s0cks: from france
[09:30] <melanie> ogra: this one: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=14484 i downloaded it under [download]
[09:30] <cemo> mirak, no
[09:30] <s0cks> mirak : Walk to Bastille, and grab a small piece of metal
[09:30] <s0cks> mirak : I dunno, beat it on a rock or something.
[09:30] <mirak> s0cks: eiffel tower you mean
[09:31] <mirak> I see it from my window
[09:31] <melanie> ogra: after selected in gcursors it was located under /.icons/Grou...
[09:31] <s0cks> mirak : Prison Bastille. Bound to be some shrapnel there.
[09:31] <ogra> mirak: tkae a chinsaw if nothing helps :)
[09:31] <s0cks> ogra : Am I wrong to assume that everyone knows what a paper clip is?
[09:31] <mirak> well bastille doesn't exist
[09:31] <mirak> it was distroyed
[09:31] <mirak> I think
[09:31] <ogra> s0cks: probably not in france
[09:31] <s0cks> mirak : The site is still there?
[09:32] <mirak> a paper clip is a post-it ?
[09:32] <mirak> s0cks: duno
[09:32] <s0cks> mirak : They unbuilt it brick by brick whilst under fire.
[09:32] <s0cks> mirak : look it up on google.
[09:33] <ogra> mirak: its a piece of metal .... every apple uses has one in his bag :)
[09:33] <ogra> user
[09:34] <mirak> I had a cd rom with problems at my second home
[09:34] <mirak> I use a wire
[09:34] <mirak> I don't have that here though
[09:35] <ogra> melanie: the theme tar.bz2 package is wrong
[09:35] <ogra> melanie: open it by double clicking......
[09:36] <mirak> ah I managed to eject it
[09:36] <melanie> ogra: and then?
[09:36] <Caspar> hia
[09:36] <ogra> melanie: enter the Grounation-0.2 folder
[09:36] <mirak> I was trying to eject the device
[09:36] <Caspar> i have a porb whit my driver
[09:36] <mirak> and it didnot worked
[09:36] <Caspar> is it oke if i put the error here?
[09:36] <ogra> melanie: drag the Grounation folder from there to the desktop....
[09:37] <s0cks> w00t
[09:37] <s0cks> Warty is done.
[09:37] <melanie> ogra: ok, done
[09:38] <topyli> Caspar: if it's many lines, don't paste here. use #flood
[09:38] <s0cks> brb
[09:38] <s0cks> gotta get blank cd
[09:38] <ogra> melanie: now open the theme folder from gcursor
[09:38] <Caspar> topyli: it are 6 lines
[09:38] <ogra> melanie: and drop the Grounation folder there....
[09:38] <ogra> melanie: gestart gcursor and its there for selection
[09:38] <ogra> restart
[09:39] <topyli> Caspar: i don't know the official flooding threshold :)
[09:39] <Caspar> :|
[09:39] <Caspar> posted there
[09:39] <topyli> doesn't sound like much to me
[09:40] <Caspar> what do i need to do
[09:40] <Caspar> the readme dousent exits
[09:40] <topyli> Caspar: i just joined #flood, please paste again :)
[09:41] <Caspar> and?
[09:42] <Kirsch> when i play a mov file in mplayer, says "can not find audio codec for 0x324D4451" any ideas?
[09:42] <ogra> Caspar: join #flood and paste it there
[09:42] <trinity> having a bit of a problem setting up ldap authentication in ubuntu - any know of any compatibility issues?
[09:42] <ogra> melanie: and ?
[09:42] <topyli> Caspar: i'm not sure. the permissions are wrong, or perhaps the device isn't there. I've never had an nvidia card, thank $DEITY :)
[09:42] <Caspar> allready posting it 2 times orga
[09:42] <melanie> ogra: it works!!!!! you rock!
[09:42] <ogra> melanie: :)
[09:43] <s0cks> 8x writing as a bootable data disk
[09:43] <s0cks> ogra : Thanks for the help man
[09:43] <ogra> melanie: thats great.... so i can provide the pacage more widely....
[09:43] <s0cks> ogra : The installer is self explanitory, right?
[09:43] <ogra> s0cks: great.....
[09:43] <Caspar> i just used sudo to install it
[09:43] <ogra> s0cks: yep.... only difficult thing is partitioning...
[09:44] <ogra> s0cks: but thats hard on every OS
[09:44] <s0cks> ogra : I am the master of that, it is already done :P
[09:44] <melanie> ogra: yes, do that!
[09:44] <Caspar> orga?
[09:44] <s0cks> I have no problem with partitions.
[09:44] <Caspar> do you know it?
[09:44] <s0cks> Everyone in my CET class is like 'which partition... ' and they all come to me.
[09:45] <ogra> Caspar: its the nvidia graphics driver ?
[09:45] <Caspar> ja
[09:45] <Caspar> jes
[09:45] <Caspar> yes
[09:45] <Caspar> :|
[09:45] <ogra> Caspar: woher kommt der ?
[09:45] <Caspar> The netherlands
[09:45] <melanie> ogra: sprichst du deutsch?
[09:45] <ogra> Caspar: the driver i meant , lol
[09:45] <Caspar> can't speak German (dislection)
[09:45] <ogra> yep i'm german
[09:45] <__daniel> ogra spricht super deutsch
[09:46] <ogra> hehe
[09:46] <melanie> jo super
[09:46] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) and #ubuntu-de is born
[09:46] <Caspar> yes the driver is Nvidia
[09:46] <__daniel> Treenaks: it already WAS born :-)
[09:46] <Kirsch> what's autoreconf?
[09:46] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) __daniel: oh.. oh well :)
[09:46] <ogra> Caspar: from where ?
[09:46] <Kirsch> i know what autoconf is
[09:46] <ogra> Caspar: there is a ubuntu package that cares for the setup and all
[09:46] <Caspar> sudo abt-install nvidia(something)
[09:47] <ogra> Caspar: look here https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:47] <Caspar> got it tru wikki
[09:47] <RubenV> apt-get install ;)
[09:47] <Caspar> rubenv yep (sry)
[09:47] <nonajme> <
[09:47] <ogra> Caspar: you are running warty ?
[09:47] <Caspar> newest
[09:47] <ogra> Caspar: so hoary ?
[09:48] <Caspar> no
[09:48] <Kirsch> kinda funny, all the questions are the  questions all the time. installing Video Card Drivers, where do i get XXXXX?
[09:48] <Kirsch> lol
[09:48] <Caspar> :| how can i cee it )
[09:48] <Caspar> ?
[09:48] <ogra> Caspar: in synaptic....
[09:48] <RubenV> cat /etc/issue :)
[09:49] <ogra> Caspar: if you changed your repository entrys to hoary and updated you are running hoary :)
[09:49] <Caspar> i use dselect update
[09:49] <topyli> Caspar: you would know if you were running hoary :)
[09:49] <Caspar> but where can i cee it there
[09:50] <RubenV> if you didn't edit anything: it's warty
[09:50] <__daniel> Caspar: dselect update is perfectly well
[09:50] <RubenV> your only on hoary if you selected hoary manually
[09:50] <topyli> Caspar: cat /etc/issue like RubenV said
[09:51] <ogra> Caspar: you followed point 1 and two in the wiki ?
[09:51] <Caspar> warty warthig
[09:51] <Caspar> og
[09:51] <Caspar> i use
[09:51] <Caspar> ogra Yep
[09:51] <Caspar> and rebooted
[09:51] <s0cks> here goes nothing
[09:51] <s0cks> bbk
[09:51] <s0cks> bbl*
[09:51] <s0cks> wish me luck
[09:51] <RubenV> topyli: offcourse that only works if you have a default /etc/issue
[09:51] <RubenV> but whoever knows what /etc/issue is knows what ubuntu he's running ;)
[09:51] <ogra> Caspar: do: lsmod|grep nvidia
[09:51] <ogra> Caspar: in a terminal
[09:52] <Caspar>  lsmod|grep nvidia
[09:52] <topyli> RubenV: hehe
[09:52] <Caspar> oops
[09:52] <ogra> hehe
[09:52] <Caspar> nvidia               4821428  12
[09:52] <ogra> Caspar: fine....
[09:53] <ogra> Caspar: now: grep nvidia /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[09:53] <RubenV> Caspar: try glxinfo | grep "direct rendering"
[09:53] <Caspar>  Driver          "nvidia"
[09:53] <topyli> RubenV: /etc/lsb-release is supposed to be correct always
[09:54] <ogra> Caspar: hmm, setup is ok....
[09:54] <Caspar> RubenV: direct rendering: Yes
[09:54] <RubenV> topyli: great, from now on that's the universal dist identifier for me ;)
[09:54] <RubenV> Caspar: then your drivers are working correctly
[09:54] <Caspar> but why dousent UT2004 start then?
[09:54] <RubenV> what error does it give if you start it?
[09:54] <ogra> RubenV: ever seen this: Error: Could not open /dev/nvidia0 because the permissions
[09:55] <ogra> RubenV: shouldnt happen....
[09:55] <RubenV> early udev had that problem
[09:55] <RubenV> crw-rw----  1 root video 195,   0 2004-11-20 17:34 nvidia0
[09:55] <RubenV> crw-rw----  1 root video 195, 255 2004-11-20 17:34 nvidiactl
[09:55] <ogra> Caspar: did you install any oher nvidia drivers before or anything like that ?
[09:55] <Caspar> the also strange thing is that my desktop (first) was ownd by root
[09:55] <Caspar> ogra nope
[09:55] <ogra> Caspar: did you run nautius as root ?
[09:56] <ogra> nautilus
[09:56] <Caspar> what?
[09:56] <Caspar> should i?
[09:56] <RubenV> ogra: shouldn't matter
[09:56] <ogra> Caspar: did you at anytime run sudo nautilus in a terminal ?
[09:56] <RubenV> nautilus gets started at gnome session start
[09:56] <Caspar> w8 lemme cheack
[09:56] <ogra> RubenV: his desktop was owned by root, sure it matters
[09:56] <phlax> hi there - trying to use ldap auth - when I add ldap to nssswitch i can no longer get rootly powers - anyone got any ideas?
[09:56] <ogra> Caspar: dont do it
[09:57] <RubenV> ogra: nautilus always get's started first as the user
[09:57] <Caspar> ogra nope i didn't dousent show in history of my commands
[09:57] <ogra> RubenV: if you run it as root is changes certain rights....i.e. you are not able to edit the menu from nautilus anymore
[09:58] <RubenV> and even if you do
[09:58] <RubenV> nautilus would use /root/Desktop as the desktop dir :)
[09:58] <ogra> RubenV: not with sudo....
[09:58] <RubenV> right
[09:59] <ogra> Caspar: type: groups
[09:59] <ogra> Caspar: is video in there ?
[09:59] <aaroncuk> hey guys.. need some help... my ubuntu server keeps freezing.. saw something on the forums that said it might be open gl causing it, so i went to the screensaver bit to run an open gl screensaver but it crashes as soon as i open the screensaver menu
[09:59] <Caspar> caspar root daemon bin sys adm tty disk lp mail news uucp man proxy kmem dialout fax voice cdrom floppy tape sudo audio dip www-data backup operator list irc src gnats shadow
[09:59] <Caspar> that is the list ogra
[09:59] <ogra> no video
[09:59] <RubenV> that's one hell of a list :)
[10:00] <Caspar> (thats the porob?_
[10:00] <Caspar> )
[10:00] <RubenV> Caspar: yes
[10:00] <Caspar> :|
[10:00] <ogra> Caspar: what did you do with your system
[10:00] <RubenV> add yourself to the video group
[10:00] <Caspar> not mutch
[10:00] <mockingbird> anyone know about linux on ipod? : http://ipodlinux.sourceforge.net/screens.shtml   http://www.ipodlinux.org/index.php/Main_Page
[10:00] <RubenV> Caspar: that ain't no default install
[10:00] <ogra> Caspar: type:  adduser $USER video
[10:00] <Caspar> and $user = ???????????
[10:01] <RubenV> try it ;)
[10:01] <ogra> Caspar: is replaced by bash
[10:01] <RubenV> or try echo $USER
[10:01] <ogra> Caspar: with your username
[10:01] <ogra> Caspar: listen to RubenV
[10:01] <ogra> Caspar: should show your username
[10:02] <Caspar> The user `caspar' is already a member of video.
[10:02] <Caspar> :|
[10:02] <RubenV> (the detailed explanation is that $USER is an environment var which gets substituted by bash)
[10:02] <ogra> Caspar: hmm, but its not in the list
[10:02] <aaroncuk> anyone got any ideas?
[10:02] <Caspar> nope
[10:02] <s0cks> ogra : didn't make it a bootable cd :(
[10:02] <RubenV> Caspar: log out
[10:02] <Caspar> as?
[10:02] <Caspar> caspar?
[10:03] <Caspar> then i lost IRC
[10:03] <RubenV> well
[10:03] <RubenV> wait :)
[10:03] <ogra> s0cks: i meant not drag n drop the iso to a cd.... you must burn the image
[10:03] <RubenV> if you change your groups, they don't get reflected right away
[10:03] <RubenV> only on a new login
[10:03] <Caspar> so logout
[10:03] <Caspar> and login
[10:03] <RubenV> or you could try starting a login shell
[10:03] <ogra> s0cks: do you use nero ?
[10:03] <Caspar> brb ill login again
[10:04] <s0cks> ogra : nope
[10:04] <ogra> s0cks: how did you burn ?
[10:04] <s0cks> Dont have a burning ap
[10:05] <ogra> s0cks: hmmm, how did you do it then ?
[10:05] <s0cks> bit by bit.
[10:05] <scoon> ogra: what about using cdrecord.
[10:05] <Caspar> only root (as far as i can cee)
[10:05] <s0cks> ogra : point me out some free burning software.
[10:05] <s0cks> windows capatable please
[10:05] <RubenV> groups | grep -c video
[10:06] <topyli> s0cks: dunno, but i always find my windows freeware at nonags.com
[10:06] <Caspar> 0
[10:06] <ogra> s0cks: hmm, no idea....
[10:06] <RubenV> Caspar: then you still aren't in the video group
[10:06] <Caspar> :|
[10:07] <RubenV> what does this give you:
[10:07] <RubenV> grep video /etc/group
[10:07] <topyli> Caspar: try grep caspar /etc/passwd
[10:07] <topyli> lol
[10:07] <ogra> Caspar: echo $USER
[10:07] <RubenV> topyli: groups are in group ;)
[10:07] <Kirsch> is there a command line to search the packages?
[10:07] <s0cks> try /grep/name/etc/password
[10:07] <ogra> Caspar: who are you now ?
[10:07] <Kirsch> that i'll be able to install (kinda like the search in synaptic)
[10:07] <RubenV> ogra: doesn't really matter
[10:08] <topyli> RubenV: yeah, but /etc/passwd also lists the groups that the user is in
[10:08] <__daniel> ogra: thats a very tricky question: "who are you?" :-)
[10:08] <s0cks> Gentoo?
[10:08] <Caspar> caspar
[10:08] <Caspar> :|
[10:08] <ogra> __daniel: lol
[10:08] <RubenV> topyli: no it doesn't
[10:08] <__daniel> ogra: i never managed to find out
[10:08] <topyli> RubenV: no it doesn't! sorry, bad memory
[10:08] <RubenV> :)
[10:08] <ogra> __daniel: i think some of us will never
[10:08] <RubenV> just grep video /etc/group
[10:09] <Caspar> caspar:x:1000:1000:Caspar van Laanen,,,:/home/caspar:/bin/bash
[10:09] <melanie> was muss ich alles fr wordtrans installieren. ich kann wordtrans nicht starten
[10:09] <__daniel> ogra: times are especially good for not-finding-out
[10:09] <Caspar> to rubenv
[10:09] <Caspar> and ogra
[10:09] <Caspar> :|
[10:09] <RubenV> and what does this give you:
[10:09] <RubenV> grep video /etc/group
[10:09] <ogra> Caspar: strange.....
[10:09] <melanie>
[10:09] <Caspar> video:x:44:caspar,root
[10:10] <RubenV> according to that, you are in the video group
[10:10] <ogra> melanie: there is no gnome frontend for it....
[10:10] <RubenV> are your nvidia nodes chmodded correctly?
[10:10] <topyli> s0cks: look here for your winders cd burner: http://ftp.sunet.se/nonags/cdr.html
[10:10] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) (ls -l /dev/nvidia*)
[10:10] <melanie> ogra: is there another application like babylon?
[10:10] <Caspar> rubenv: how must i do that?
[10:11] <RubenV> like Treenaks says
[10:11] <Caspar> oki
[10:11] <Caspar> dankje
[10:11] <ogra> melanie: only english german ?
[10:11] <Caspar> ls -l /dev/nvidia*
[10:11] <Caspar> :|
[10:11] <melanie> ogra: yes
[10:11] <Caspar> crw-rw----    1 root     video    195,   0 2004-11-20 21:23 /dev/nvidia0
[10:11] <Caspar> crw-rw----    1 caspar   video    195, 255 2004-11-20 21:23 /dev/nvidiactl
[10:11] <luc1f3r> quick question, is 128megabytes equivalent to 128000 K?
[10:11] <RubenV> perfect
[10:12] <RubenV> luc1f3r: 2^30
[10:12] <ogra> melanie: http://www.grawert.net/software/g2ding/
[10:12] <RubenV> divided by 8
[10:12] <RubenV> ;)
[10:12] <luc1f3r> RubenV: what?
[10:12] <Caspar> rubenv what should i do now?
[10:12] <ogra> melanie: but i didnt maintin it for very long, no guarantees, even it works on my warty
[10:12] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) Caspar: join the dutch channel ;)
[10:12] <Caspar> sight :|
[10:12] <luc1f3r> RubenV: if i'm asked for memory in K, what is 128 mb?
[10:13] <RubenV> +- 128 000 indeed
[10:13] <RubenV> exact number is a bit different
[10:13] <luc1f3r> thanks
[10:15] <ermo> eh, my kernel is 2.6.8, yet I only see up to 2.6.7 when it comes to sources. What gives?
[10:15] <ermo> are there no 2.6.8 ubuntu sources anywhere?
[10:16] <carlos> ermo: linux-source
[10:17] <ermo> carlos, just found it. Was looking for kernel-... debianism on my part, sorry.
[10:18] <ogra> RubenV: 128MB is right for 128000 KB, else it would be 128MiB = 131072 KiB
[10:19] <RubenV> right
[10:19] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) just don't give your X config an amount -- let it probe the card ;)
[10:19] <ogra> RubenV: i'm still wondering who had this glorious idea for the name....mebibyte
[10:20] <ogra> RubenV: more worse kibibyte
[10:20] <ermo> ogra, so it's not the other way around?
[10:20] (Treenaks/#ubuntu) ogra: gibibyte!
[10:21] <ogra> lol
[10:21] <ogra> ermo: its easy to recall: kilo = 1000
[10:21] <melanie> ogra: i works, but just from german to english. how can i add english to german also?
[10:21] <ogra> melanie: it works both ways
[10:22] <ogra> melanie: just type the english term in
[10:22] <BeanDip> anyone running hoary having trouble starting xmms?
[10:22] (clee/#ubuntu) hahahah
[10:22] (clee/#ubuntu) xmms
[10:22] (clee/#ubuntu) that's a good one :)
[10:22] <BeanDip> ah, fuckin mikmod
[10:23] <BeanDip> that's what's fuckin with me
[10:23] <ermo> ogra, I was referring to KiB vs KB
[10:23] <BeanDip> clee?
[10:23] <ogra> BeanDip: got an nvidia card ?
[10:23] <BeanDip> ogra, yup
[10:23] <BeanDip> geforce mx2/400
[10:23] <ogra> ermo: yep, me too
[10:23] <ogra> BeanDip:its a known bug
[10:23] <ogra> BeanDip: nvidia must recompile the driver i guess
[10:24] <ogra> BeanDip: as they dont provide source
[10:25] <ogra> BeanDip: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1724
[10:25] <ogra> hmpf
[10:25] <topyli> compiles for ages :(
[10:25] <auk> anyone recommend a media player
[10:25] <RubenV> topyli: 45 minutes or so
[10:26] <alka_trash> auk: totem or mplayer
[10:26] <jomohke> hmm. When I try to mount my cdrom drive it just sits there as if it's busy doing such a thing. I left it overnight and it still hadn't mounted.
[10:26] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) depends on the meiia...
[10:26] <RubenV> atleast that's what it did on my P4
[10:26] <Karnaugh> mplayer
[10:26] <Karnaugh> GammaRay: how so?
[10:26] <ogra> auk: rhythmbox
[10:26] <alka_trash> auk: audio or video
[10:26] <topyli> RubenV: been going on for an hour at least on my trusty dusty duron box
[10:26] <auk> audio
[10:26] <Karnaugh> auk: xmms?
[10:27] <Karnaugh> (although it sucks, I dont know of anything better)
[10:27] <auk> dont like the interface
[10:27] <Karnaugh> dont blame you
[10:27] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) xmms does not suck
[10:27] <alka_trash> auk: it's pretty good, but I use beep-media player it's xmms with gtk2
[10:27] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) Karnaugh: video players arn't great mp3 players
[10:27] <Karnaugh> auk: as far as "winamp" like things its about the best, but its still leagues off of "good"
[10:27] <alka_trash> auk support for winamp skins too
[10:27] <Karnaugh> GammaRay: mplayer plays mp3's fine
[10:28] <Karnaugh> GammaRay: can even load play lists afaik
[10:28] <alka_trash> sh!t there's a lot
[10:28] <alka_trash> of players out there
[10:28] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) Karnaugh: it's not suited to the task
[10:28] <Karnaugh> GammaRay: but it plays movies?
[10:28] <topyli> mpd (media player daemon) is pretty cool
[10:28] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) Karnaugh: really? :-P
[10:28] <Karnaugh> GammaRay: and what is the sound in your movies encoded in?
[10:28] <auk> Karnaugh: ill try mplayer
[10:29] <alka_trash> it's a goodie
[10:29] <ogra> bah... ugly
[10:29] <Karnaugh> auk: its comand line, doubt its what you're lookinf for
[10:29] <Karnaugh> *looking
[10:29] <auk> O
[10:29] <ogra> nope, it has a gui too., but you run away if you see ti :)
[10:29] <topyli> Karnaugh: there's the gmplayer front end
[10:29] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) Karnaugh: don't confuse technically able with good at
[10:30] <topyli> but mplayer is not very good with playlists and large collections
[10:30] <auk> gtkpod?
[10:31] <Fibio> hi all
[10:31] <BeanDip> well I just installed nvidida's newest drivers from the website and still no go with xmms
[10:32] <BeanDip> libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:32] <BeanDip> Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/generic/dl-tls.c: 72: _dl_next_tls_modid: Assertion `result <= _rtld_local._dl_tls_max_dtv_idx' failed!
[10:32] <Bad_Ad> anyone know if theres a plugin for gaim to play mp3s etc so i dont need more proggys open
[10:32] <BeanDip> and I do have libmikmod2 installed
[10:32] <BeanDip> hmmm
[10:32] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) Bad_Ad: that is not very logical
[10:32] <ogra> BeanDip: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1724
[10:32] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) by adding a plugin, you are enlarging gaim
[10:32] <Chibi> Bad_Ad- Even windows messengers of sorts use other programs to play music. :/
[10:32] <BeanDip> I wonder....  ok it works now
[10:32] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) so whats the point?
[10:33] <ogra> BeanDip: you were too fast last time....
[10:33] <Bad_Ad> yes i know, i just mean to control the underlying player
[10:33] <BeanDip> some reason dpkg didn't do an ldconfig
[10:33] <BeanDip> now the drivers are loading
[10:33] <ogra> you shouldnt install the nvidia drivers from the website....apt cant care for them
[10:33] <Chibi> I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to write one yourself.   :P
[10:34] <auk> hows gtkpod vs. gnupod?
[10:35] <osiris_22> i just got 3d working
[10:35] <osiris_22> and 3d for xmms
[10:35] <osiris_22> lmao
[10:35] <ogra> BeanDip: if it comes to updates you'll probably have no x anymore if apt doesnt know :)
[10:35] <Bad_Ad> a control one sounds like what im looking for
[10:35] <Bad_Ad> xmms-gnome the right package?
[10:36] <auk> osiris_22: 3ddesktop?
[10:36] <osiris_22> 3d desktop
[10:36] <osiris_22> whats that?
[10:36] <BeanDip> ogra: so what? it's not like I can't install the drivers at the terminal and restart gdm
[10:36] <auk> i could never get it to work
[10:36] <osiris_22> lets see
[10:36] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) osiris_22: it's a 3d desktop/workspace switcher
[10:36] <osiris_22> i got java installed
[10:36] <osiris_22> limewire working
[10:36] <ogra> BeanDip: i dont know you...and cant judge your abilitys....i give this hint to everyone :)
[10:37] <BeanDip> ogra: I've been using linux since before the concept of a distribution, it's not as though I'm incapable
[10:37] <BeanDip> :)
[10:37] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) limewire.. bleh
[10:37] <osiris_22> that wasnt easy either esp cause my friend was fucked up on a shit load of cough syrup
[10:37] <BeanDip> it's good that you do
[10:37] <BeanDip> thanks though
[10:37] <ogra> BeanDip: :)
[10:37] <BeanDip> I still remember running minix
[10:38] <osiris_22> do i have to worry about spyware with linux?
[10:38] <__daniel> osiris_22: not yet :-)
[10:38] <ogra> osiris_22: except the one looking over your sholdr ? no
[10:39] <auk> do you have to restart every 2 hours in linux like in windows
[10:39] <osiris_22> so i dot have to search for spyware with linux?
[10:39] <topyli> spyware is difficult to hide in open source code
[10:39] <__daniel> auk: "15 days, 02:57:55" - no you dont have to :-)
[10:39] <osiris_22> ok i need some good icons for like my msn messenger and shit the the icons the provide just suck
[10:39] <ogra> osiris_22: nope.... same goes for viruses.....but you can spread them in mails to win users.....
[10:40] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) osiris_22: it's always a good idea to check out your system for breakins
[10:40] <auk> cool!
[10:40] <BeanDip> auk I've got a box in my house that's been running for 4 years without rebooting
[10:40] <topyli> __daniel: i see you didn't do the kernel upgrade a few days back
[10:40] <topyli> :)
[10:40] <BeanDip> :)
[10:40] <__daniel> topyli: that was on the debian box under the stairs :-)
[10:40] <ogra> BeanDip: wow... i didnt cross the 2 year line till now
[10:41] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) osiris_22: in ubuntu there are no ports open by default so you should be pretty safe though
[10:41] <osiris_22> where do i get some icons for my apps at and how do i installl them
[10:41] <alka_trash> just wondering is there any spyware for linux yet?
[10:41] <auk> anyone heard of the uClinux kernel?
[10:41] <BeanDip> ogra: It's my mp3 box, has it's own ups so I can still have music in a blackout
[10:41] <topyli> __daniel: oh so you still remember where it's located =)
[10:41] <__daniel> topyli: of course :-)
[10:42] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) osiris_22: typical places would be /usr/share/pixmaps/ or /usr/share/icons/
[10:42] <osiris_22> where doi pick up icons?
[10:42] <auk> do you mean official icons?
[10:42] <topyli> __daniel: there's this legend of the lost solaris box that keeps on running but cannot be found :)
[10:43] <ogra> osiris_22: http://art.gnome.org/
[10:43] <fester> linux wont work with my router
[10:43] <__daniel> topyli: hihi, must be under an invisibility cloak :-)
[10:44] <goonie> can anyone help me with sound problems?
[10:44] <alka_trash> goonie: what's wrong with your sound?
[10:45] <goonie> can't get it to work through spdif
[10:45] <Iblun> at least u get something working ;)
[10:45] <fester> iam a newb to linux
[10:45] <fester> i got limewire installed
[10:45] <fester> and d
[10:45] <fester> 3d*
[10:45] <DimSum> Anyone know how to fix this Live CD then?
[10:46] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) limewire must be singlehandedly keeping java alive..
[10:46] <topyli> __daniel: yeah, the institution's admins think it was lost during house improvement, bricked inside a wall or something. still shows up on the network topology but the physical box is gone :)
[10:46] <ogra> DimSum: whats wrong with it ?
[10:46] <DimSum> GammaRay: Azureus is; nobody cares about Limewire
[10:47] <DimSum> ogra: Works on two of the three PCs I've tested it on, but when I tested it on a good box, it pushed my monitor to display a res which it can't do... and considering this monitor will do anything up to 2048x1536 @ 60Hz, I can't see how that could be
[10:47] <ogra> DimSum: ahh, remeber, the res,,,
[10:47] <fester> so how do iu get linux to work with my router
[10:47] <DimSum> lol yes
[10:48] <ogra> DimSum: when does the prob start, directly on boot (i.e. do you see the splash screen )
[10:48] <will> where do you put the .xml files for new themes in Ubuntu?
[10:48] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) DimSum: 60hz is not something I want to look at
[10:48] <topyli> DimSum: actually, about 90% of the clients on gnet seem to be limewire
[10:48] <osiris_22> guys fester can grab a net connecdt when his cable modem is directly connect to his nic but not when his modem is connect to his router and his router is connected to his nic
[10:48] <DimSum> ogra: I see the boot screen, but as soon as X starts it won't work.
[10:48] <osiris_22> can someone help him
[10:49] <DimSum> GammaRay: I'm using 1600x1200 @ 85 at the moment
[10:49] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) topyli: maybe it just %90 of the client you connect to
[10:49] <topyli> naturally
[10:49] <ogra> will: how is the file called you want to store ?
[10:49] <topyli> GammaRay: i prefer gtk-gnutella. this is gnome, dammit :)
[10:49] <osiris_22> so no one is interested in helping the fester at all?
[10:50] <goonie> I installed Ubuntu on my MSI Hermes machine (650 version) and everything works sweet except my sound. Come to think of it I haven't gotten this audio cart to work on any linux distro.. Maybe I'm just destined to have a silent desktop machine
[10:50] <alka_trash> your using onboard?
[10:50] <osiris_22> my name is Bryan too hahah
[10:50] <goonie> yes it's an onboard card
[10:51] <will> ogra: metacity-theme-1.xml
[10:51] <ogra> DimSum: what kind of card is it ?
[10:51] <DimSum> ogra: Quadro FX 2000
[10:51] <goonie> built into the MSI 650 chipset
[10:51] <Iblun> is there a programm that is able to play dvds ?
[10:51] <ogra> will: there must be a dir it is in.....
[10:51] <will> ogra: metacity-1
[10:52] <will> ogra: its tarballed
[10:52] <ogra> will: oh..... use the theme manger then
[10:52] <will> ogra: parent to metacity-1 is Office
[10:52] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) Iblun: sure.. totem.
[10:52] <ogra> will: userlinux :)
[10:53] <BradB> anyone have a specific recommendation for a wireless card that plays nicely with ppc + warty?
[10:53] <Iblun> GammaRay: and which file i have to open on the dvd ?
[10:53] <ogra> will: i like the icontheme
[10:53] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) Iblun: you just have to install libdvdcss2
[10:54] <ogra> DimSum: try ctrl-alt-numpad+/- to switch the res.....
[10:54] <osiris_22> ok
[10:54] <osiris_22> does anyone know what
[10:54] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) Iblun: then you should be able to open totem and tell it to play the dvd
[10:54] <Iblun> GammaRay: ok thx i will try
[10:54] <DimSum> ogra, will do; thanks.
[10:54] <auk> know what what?
[10:54] <ogra> auk: what ?
[10:54] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) Iblun: you also might need totem-xine
[10:54] <Iblun> hmm and where i find that package ?
[10:55] <ogra> Iblun: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[10:55] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) Iblun: universe
[10:56] <Iblun> hmm iwas adding that sources but is not really appearing in the list ...
[10:56] <will> ogra: does not seem to work!
[10:57] <ogra> will: what did you try ?
[10:57] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) Iblun: make sure to reload
[10:57] <ogra> will: opened themes from the desktop settings ?
[10:57] <will> theme manager install new theme then selected the .xml file
[10:57] <ogra> will: oh, no, take the tgz
[10:57] <Iblun> GammaRay: yes he is saying that that package exist but has no installation kandidate
[10:58] <will> ogra: okay will try
[10:58] <auk> will: you checked the PM
[10:58] <auk> ?
[10:59] <Iblun> GammaRay: maybe is renamed ? there is something like libdvdread3
[11:00] <will> auk: sorry dont know it
[11:00] <ogra> Iblun: you will need that one too... did you read the wiki page and added the marillat repository ?
[11:00] <will> ogra: still does not come up!? strange huh
[11:01] <ogra> will: where have you got it from ?
[11:01] <Iblun> hmm i dont think so ... ok i read the fucking manual first ...
[11:01] <will> live.gnome.org
[11:01] <will> ogra
[11:03] <ogra> will:  you mean art.gnome.org ?
[11:04] <will> ogra: yeah thats the one
[11:04] <will> ogra: its their featured one 'office'
[11:06] <eruin> where can I get divx4linux (for totem) ?
[11:07] <__daniel> eruin: i think it was gstreamer0.8-plugins
[11:07] <eruin> yeah, I thought so too, but totem still only plays the audio on divx files :(
[11:07] <__daniel> eruin: hmmm, totem-xine maybe?
[11:07] <alka_trash> goonie: I think that this may work
[11:07] <mxpxpod> who does the kernel packaging for ubuntu?
[11:08] <alka_trash> goonie: http://download.sis.com/download_step1.php?act=Search&mode=2&category=3&subcategory=82&os=8362&x=11&y=10
[11:08] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) eruin: the win32 codecs package
[11:08] <eruin> GammaRay, for totem/gstreamer?
[11:08] <Iblun> GammaRay: thanks, is working all now
[11:08] <seb128> http://pkg-gnome.alioth.debian.org/debian/pool/g/gst-ffmpeg/gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg_0.8.2-1_i386.deb
[11:08] <seb128> if somebody wants gst-ffmpeg
[11:08] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) eruin: you might need totem-xine
[11:08] <__daniel> mxpxpod: matt and herbert
[11:08] <eruin> seb128, that one plays divx?
[11:08] <alka_trash> goonie: I know that it says that it's for 2.4, but hell it's worth a shot
[11:09] <__daniel> mxpxpod: i think
[11:09] <eruin> GammaRay, I'm gonna try that now
[11:09] <mxpxpod> __daniel: what are their irc names?
[11:10] <__daniel> mxpxpod: matt is mdz and herbert... *shrug*
[11:10] <ogra> will: works fine for me
[11:10] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) eruin: totem-xine supports the win32-codecs which include a divx codec
[11:10] <seb128> eruin: ffmpeg is the part needed for divx yes
[11:10] <mxpxpod> mdz: ping
[11:10] <goonie> thx alka_trash... I'll give it a try
[11:10] <seb128> eruin: with it totem-gstreamer should work fine
[11:10] <ogra> eruin: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:11] <will> ogra: u running hoary?
[11:11] <ogra> will: nope
[11:11] <__daniel> mxpxpod: at least that's what /usr/share/doc/linux*/changelog.Debian.gz said :-)
[11:11] (sjoerd/#ubuntu) seb128: why is it a native package
[11:11] <ogra> will: got a testbox with hoary though
[11:12] <seb128> sjoerd: is it ?
[11:12] <will> ogra: maybe its hoary
[11:12] <seb128> sjoerd: which one ?
[11:12] <ogra> will: pretty sure....
[11:12] (sjoerd/#ubuntu) seb128: gst-ffmpeg, debian dir is in the tarball
[11:13] <seb128> sjoerd: dunno, but that's not a native package, not the -1 and the diff.gz
[11:13] <seb128> oups, not
[11:13] <seb128> sjoerd: so dunno .. there is a -1
[11:13] <Iblun> could it be because of an dvd that xine is just crashing while playing ?
[11:13] <seb128> sjoerd: I probably screwed up, but I don't care, that's not an official package and it works
[11:13] <seb128> :p
[11:13] <ogra> will: did you try logout/in ?
[11:14] (sjoerd/#ubuntu) seb128: lets see how it works on my pb ;)
[11:17] <mxpxpod> where can I get the cramfs patch they talk about in kernel-package?
[11:19] <rapha> Hi all
[11:19] <FTTP> ubuntu runs on sparc?
[11:19] <FTTP> or no?
[11:19] <FTTP> we need cpu competition too :P
[11:19] <eruin> thanks seb128, that worked ;)
[11:20] <rapha> I'm trying to get vesafb working for a laptop which has a Savage graphics adaptor, but upon specifying vga=something, everything just stays the same :-/
[11:20] <FTTP> intel is too dominating
[11:21] <eruin> I wouldnt even consider running an intel cp
[11:21] <eruin> *cpu
[11:21] <FTTP> eruin:  Will we ever see more than 2 players?
[11:21] <FTTP> or will it be amd/intel
[11:21] <eruin> no idea
[11:21] <eruin> do we need to?
[11:21] <FTTP> and apple/powerpc
[11:21] <mameluke> anybody intrested to have a look at my selfdesigned ubuntu wallpaper? pleas give comments and flood it over the world ;)
[11:22] <FTTP> eruin:  Who makes cpus now?
[11:22] <eruin> amd/intel/motorola, etc?
[11:22] <Talliesin> FTTP, intel have been shooting themselves in the foot over 64-bit for some time now.
[11:22] <FTTP> eruin right but of pcs u can self assemble i mean
[11:22] <FTTP> u cant self assemble a mac or can u?
[11:22] <eruin> you can self-assemble a mac
[11:23] <FTTP> you can?
[11:23] <FTTP> who sells parts? :)
[11:23] <eruin> I bought some parts off a local firm called nordvestdata
[11:23] <eruin> ;P
[11:24] <__daniel> mameluke: give us the URL
[11:24] <mameluke> __daniel, shure ;) http://baru.homelinux.org/vanessa-demouy-ubuntu-debian.jpg
[11:25] <binarydigit> thats not even the ubuntu logo
[11:25] <FTTP> eruin:  On pricewatch it has amd and intel only
[11:25] <__daniel> mameluke: wow... it's awesome... but hey - what does the gnu do on the wallpaper? ;-)
[11:25] <eruin> no idea what pricewatch is
[11:25] <osiris_22> my friend cant even get a connection using a hub?!
[11:25] <osiris_22> i dont understand
[11:26] <osiris_22> im using a router
[11:26] <osiris_22> and im not having any problems
[11:26] <osiris_22> getting a connection
[11:26] <mameluke> __daniel, binarydigit -> the ubuntu-logo sukks
[11:26] <logic> what does suspire mean
[11:26] <eruin> it's prettier than your type thats for sure
[11:26] <binarydigit> mameluke: i think its pretty nice, alot better then an ox
[11:26] <__daniel> mameluke: the gnu stares on her tits... that isnt really better :-)
[11:27] <mameluke> gnu's likes debian, ubuntu likes debian, why shouldnt ubunut like gnu?
[11:27] <binarydigit> and if its an ubuntu wallpaper it would make sense to have the ubuntu logo
[11:27] <marcus|> I like the ubunto logo. Even though its somewhat communist ;)
[11:27] <pixelmonkey> I have upgraded to XOrg 6.8.1 but I get "Error activating XKB configuration" on login... anyone know how to fix this problem?
[11:27] <eruin> what's the point in having some random model on your wallpaper? :P
[11:27] <osiris_22> so does anyone know why my friend isnt able to get an internet connection in ubuntu when he uses hsi router??
[11:27] <pixelmonkey> I think it has to do with my /etc/X11 directory
[11:27] <__daniel> mameluke: but i like it
[11:28] <ogra> eruin: dont like models ?
[11:28] <eruin> ogra, not really
[11:28] <__daniel> ogra: eruin waits for ubuntu-calendar-december to see the guy again :-)
[11:28] <ogra> i thought so
[11:28] <eruin> hehe
[11:28] <mameluke> __daniel, thx :) it's not under the GPL because i don't know the licence from the vanessa-pic ;)
[11:28] <osiris_22> is there a place on this server i can get help with that?
[11:28] <ogra> just wanted to point this outr
[11:28] <eruin> nah I just prefer more abstract stuff on my desktop
[11:29] <osiris_22> ore are all you guys like not network savy?
[11:29] <eruin> I mean, every screenshot I ever see has some random chick on it ;P
[11:29] <logic> she 'breathes' for ubuntu? i bet she doesn't
[11:29] <marcus|> eruin: Or Tux swatting a butterfly :)
[11:29] <eruin> I gotta get myself converted from photoshop to gimp soon
[11:29] <eruin> I'm sorry? SQUATTING on? :P
[11:29] <ogra> eruin: you havnt seen the prerelease .....
[11:30] <eruin> human stuff?
[11:30] <eruin> hehe
[11:30] <ogra> :)
[11:30] <eruin> the cds I received has that img ;P
[11:30] <ogra> t
[11:30] <ogra> eruin: noipe, not the splashscreen
[11:31] <mameluke> eruin, i don't know this model, but the color of this image suit's ubuntu :P
[11:31] <ogra> eruin: with the guy in boxershorts :)
[11:31] (KneelBeforeXorg/#ubuntu) the Ubuntu CDs come complete with nipples on the packaging
[11:31] (KneelBeforeXorg/#ubuntu) THAT'S SERVICE!
[11:31] <eruin> mameluke, you should look into what saturization filters can do for you ;)
[11:31] <logic> haha
[11:31] <mameluke> it's an analog color like the standart one
[11:31] (KneelBeforeXorg/#ubuntu) also, in order to represent the many peoples of Africa, 2/3 of the models are white.
[11:32] <__daniel> KneelBeforeXorg: thank god they dont show random linux users :-)
[11:32] <marcus|> haha
[11:32] <Talliesin> random linux users + heavy use of filters in GIMP maybe.
[11:33] <mameluke> hey. its my first wallpaper. I'm quite happy that it's good enough for a discussion :)
[11:33] <eruin> 2/3 are also female
[11:33] <eruin> to represent the linux community no doubt
[11:33] <eruin> ;P
[11:33] <Talliesin> mameluke, the day you do something that people on IRC won't talk about at all uninstall all graphics programs ;)
[11:33] <ogra> eruin: fairness (with a little hope in it :))
[11:34] <eruin> hehe
[11:34] <__daniel> i'm glad _this_ isnt like the ubuntu-artwork-discussions before :-)
[11:34] <eruin> I heard those were a bitch
[11:34] <ogra> eruin: it was terrible
[11:34] <mameluke> it's a discussion about woman, actually, i think
[11:34] <__daniel> they were all like "mummy, mummy, i saw a nearly-naked man today"
[11:35] <eruin> ogra, debian-twits-vs-gentoo-twits-terrible?
[11:35] <eruin> I heard they don't like nipples in a large western country
[11:35] <mameluke> lol
[11:36] <eruin> granted, the tits in question were drop-dead ugly ;)
[11:36] <mameluke> but Janet likes them
[11:36] <eruin> you said the J-word!
[11:36] <__daniel> i like the pictures-in-question
[11:37] <Talliesin> eruin, nipples in actual porn is pretty much accepted in the West. It's nipples that just happen to be part of someone's body (or heaven-forbid, are actually feeding a child) that causes outrage.
[11:37] <mameluke> use it
[11:37] <eruin> Talliesin, good one ;)
[11:47] <rapha> So there's nobody here having a problem with vesafb?
[11:47] <rapha> Well well...
[11:47] <topyli> ogra: let's sing a song!
[11:47] <rapha> Old MacDonald had a farm
[11:47] <rapha> Heeeaaa, heeeaaa ho!
[11:47] <ogra> lol
[11:48] <topyli> hehe
[11:48] <rapha> And on that farm he had some chicks
[11:48] <rapha> Yippeee yippee yo!
[11:48] <topyli> rapha: i think you have mistaken vodka for beer :)
[11:49] <rapha> You'll be surprised to learn that I did not consume any alcoholics or drugs at all.
[11:49] <rapha> It is simply in my nature.
[11:49] <topyli> i'm glad you can speak openly about that
[11:49] <__daniel> rapha: singing is what community is all about... isnt it? the ubuntu just got "community" wrong :-)
[11:49] <rapha> (You'll find other obscurities on schwarzschmid.de)
[11:49] <rapha> Hmm
[11:50] <rapha> Maybe it should be "Ubuntu Singing Group" instead of "Ubuntu Linux" then. And who the hell is Bill Gates anyway? :)
[11:50] <__daniel> rapha: ok... he never heard of community before
[11:50] <topyli> we'd sing only creative commons licensed songs
[11:51] <rapha> Sure
[11:52] <rapha> I'm afraid of the dark, I can talk to flowers, dragons know my name."
[11:52] <rapha> That's from a CCL song
[11:53] <topyli> see how CC fosters innovation!
[11:53] <rapha> Hah! You can't even tell which band I was quoting!
[11:54] <topyli> no. is it courtesy of Evil Record Label after all?
[11:54] <__daniel> rapha: it's from "the hoary hedgehogs"
[11:54] <topyli> heh
[11:56] (GammaRay/#ubuntu) rapha: flowers you say...
[11:56] <goonie> here's a silly question.. Am I using Alsa og OSS on a default 4.10 install?
[11:56] <rapha> Indeed GammaRay.
[11:57] <ogra> goonie: alsa
[11:57] <ogra> goonie: oss is dead
[11:57] <goonie> thx
[11:57] <topyli> goonie: alsa with oss-emulation enabled :)
[11:57] <ogra> __daniel: WHAT ?? 8O
[11:57] <rapha> But anyway, I was quoting Anylulu.
[11:57] <rapha> And now, good night everybody!
[11:57] <__daniel> ogra:  :-)
[11:58] <ogra> heh
[11:58] <ogra> i probably could whistle a bit though
[11:59] <ermo> Hmm. poor rapha. One beer and he's down for maintenance.
[11:59] <topyli> hehe
[11:59] <ogra> lol
[11:59] <__daniel> a pity, i won't be there
[11:59] <topyli> one beer, one song. that's his saturday night :(
[11:59] <binarydigit> where do i put fonts that i want to use


[22:58] <Fudge> AlanBell is lubuntu accessibility coming along further? just read channel hisotory between yourself and phillw
[23:00] <AlanBell> not sure fudge, I have not tried lubuntu yet
[23:05] <Fudge> I need something for my netbook, it is extremely slow with gnome3
[23:05] <Fudge> currently have quantal on it
[23:05] <Fudge> dont really want to revert to a lucid install
[23:36] <Fudge> no ideas AlanBell ?