[03:37] <FrankChen> 安安
[23:34] <lettuce45> 大家好
[23:34] <lettuce45> There are no permanent friends, only permanent interests. Any idea on how to write that in chinese?


[10:03] <blindsky> How do I configure KDE to show mnemonics permanently?
[12:30] <orion__> asdasd
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[12:30] <orion__> s
[12:33] <soee> huh?
[12:33] <soee> do you have any question related to kubuntu?
[13:09] <user|96279> hjbjkbkj;
[13:30] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[17:26] <konrados> Morning!
[17:27] <konrados> Here: https://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi/en I can read about "KRunner configuration" ( "KRunner offers you Akonadi Resource Configuration", or "KRunner's configuration page, disable the Nepomuk" ) - what is this KRunner and how can I open its configuration?
[17:28] <NewUser> Hello all! I had a question about 4k monitors, I can only really find threads from 2014. I want to install Kubuntu, but, I don't know how well it will work with my GTX1080 and my 4k monitor. Are there any changes I need to make?
[17:29] <BluesKaj> !krunner |konrados
[17:29] <BluesKaj> !info krunner
[17:30] <BluesKaj> konrados, krunner is the same as the run command alt+F2
[17:30] <BluesKaj> or right click on the desktop choose Run Command
[17:31] <ahoneybun> https://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/Krunner
[17:32] <ahoneybun> some info needs updating but a good place to start
[17:32] <ahoneybun> NewUser: about that 4K
[17:32] <ahoneybun> I'm not sure if 1080 has been added yet but: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[17:36] <konrados> Thanks, BluesKaj & ahoneybun  but how is it related to  https://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi/en ? And this ""KRunner offers you Akonadi Resource Configuration"? When I do alt+F2 - and click the icon on the left I can't see anything but "search plugins" I can turn on and off.
[17:36] <NewUser> Thank you, @ahoneybun
[17:36] <NewUser> Forgive my lack of knowledge here, but what is Krunner? It looks to me like it's for easy commands?
[17:37] <ahoneybun> NewUser: krunner can open applciations, switch to currently open applications, do basic math
[17:37] <ahoneybun> run commands, open files
[17:37] <ahoneybun> it's super useful
[17:38] <ahoneybun> konrados: not to be honest
[17:38] <ahoneybun> *not sure
[17:38] <NewUser> Oh, was Krunner not intended for me? lol
[17:38] <konrados> No it wasn't :)
[17:38] <ahoneybun> NewUser: it's intended for everyone
[17:39] <NewUser> Ah, I thought your "about that 4K" was in reference to Krunner
[17:39] <NewUser> My bad
[17:39] <konrados> Thanks ahoneybun, I'll dig around.
[17:39] <ahoneybun> no just needed to look up that PPA
[17:39] <NewUser> Yeh, sorry about that! I'm tired. Thank you for your link though, I'm looking now
[17:40] <ahoneybun> np
[17:41] <NewUser> Oh, I've just seen this: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/104284/en-us
[17:41] <NewUser> Surely that'll work?
[17:42] <ahoneybun> 367 is in that ppa
[17:42] <ahoneybun> just added the ppa
[17:42] <ahoneybun> sudo apt update
[17:42] <ahoneybun> sudo apt install nvidia-367
[17:43] <NewUser> Super star, thank you
[17:43] <BluesKaj> https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[17:44] <ahoneybun> no problem, as a nvidia user myself I find that ppa to be execellent
[17:44] <NewUser> I've tried Linux on a 4k screen before and couldn't get it working. The driver was installed but the scaling was AWFUL and if I fixed one scaling issue, something else would break lol
[17:45] <ahoneybun> NewUser: KDE's Display settings has a "Scale Display" option on the both for that
[17:45] <ahoneybun> might have to reboot to get the full change
[17:45] <NewUser> I had a trade-off between reading my code in my IDE or  having MASSIVE icons everywhere :p
[17:45] <NewUser> Ah, brilliant
[17:45] <ahoneybun> I've never had to use it tbh though
[17:45] <NewUser> Yeah that's why I want to try Kubuntu
[17:45] <ahoneybun> still on 1080p here
[17:46] <NewUser> I just want to comfortably move away from Windows! There's nothing I use on Windows currently that I can't use on Linux or that a VM wouldn't solve!
[17:47] <ahoneybun> NewUser: lovely
[17:47] <BluesKaj> NewUser, is this a larger monitor, over 32"?
[17:47] <NewUser> My only issue is the screen, which I've had issues with before :p
[17:47] <NewUser> BluesKaj, it's 29"
[17:47] <BluesKaj> you may want to check the dpi options as well
[17:48] <ahoneybun> oh right for fonts
[17:48] <ahoneybun> in Font settings there is a force dpi font option
[17:48] <NewUser> Oh, wait, 28". It's a AOC 28, 4K Ultra HD LED Monitor, 3840x2160
[17:49] <ahoneybun> that just sounds awesome
[17:49] <NewUser> Ah, right. I've noted that as well!
[17:49] <ahoneybun> I'd love to get away from 2 monitors
[17:49] <NewUser> Would it also work with 2 screens, do you reckon?
[17:49] <NewUser> Well...I have 2 of them lol
[17:50]  * BluesKaj uses a panasonic 42" plasma tv as a monitor
[17:50] <NewUser> I'm a developer, I tend to use one for code/terminals, etc and the other one for browsers/viewing changes
[17:50] <ahoneybun> NewUser: I use 2 montors with no issues
[17:50] <NewUser> 42"!
[17:50] <NewUser> Do you use Linux, too?
[17:51] <ahoneybun> but I have 16.10 with a few extra ppas for Plasma 5.8.3
[17:51] <ahoneybun> NewUser: I use Kubuntu
[17:51] <BluesKaj> 10ft/3m away from it using wirelss KB and mouse
[17:51] <NewUser> Awesome, thank you ahoneybun. I'm installing tomorrow when I'm back at the office, so i'll be sure to let you know!
[17:51] <ahoneybun> NewUser: awesomesauce
[17:51] <BluesKaj> yup Kubuntu 16.10
[17:52] <NewUser> So, I'm still in the process of looking at the Kubuntu features. apart from that it looks great, what are the other benefits?
[17:52] <NewUser> Awesome, BluesKaj, and scaling is fine?
[17:52] <BluesKaj> NewUser, yes , it's almost prefect
[17:52] <ahoneybun> NewUser: since we use Ubuntu as a base any ppa will work, just because of which ones you add
[17:53] <BluesKaj> perfect even
[22:04] <IrcsomeBot1> ortni was added by: ortni
 Hey! Wutz up guyz?
[22:11] <Hailwood> I'd say the sky, but it's raining. So that's really what's down...
[22:19] <Golarmo> I installed Steam and the initial startup update ran smoothly. But then when I tried to start steam in earnest, it only appeared on the task manager for a few seconds before disappearing (could not "click it up"). When ran in the terminal, I get libGL errors such as "driver pointer missing" and "failed/unable to load driver i965_dri.so".  Also "gre
[22:19] <Golarmo> p: symbol lookup error: grep: undefined symbol: pcre_jit_stack_alloc". I have tried multiple solutions found online, but nothing seems to bite. I did not accept the installation of programs "some of which are proprietary" at OS installation.
[22:23] <valorie> !steam
[22:23] <valorie> might be some help at the above channel Golarmo
[22:23] <Golarmo> Thank you!
[22:23] <valorie> best of luck!


[19:58] <jdsdsa> is it possible to become root from within a script?
[19:58] <mexi_d3> daftykins: I found the source code though
[19:59] <daftykins> mexi_d3: i'm between channels so no, i didn't
[19:59] <daftykins> heh, ok
[19:59] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, The windows channel has a best safe use link you might ask them for it and show it to your friend.
[20:00] <Ubnoobtu> is it ##windows?
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, Yeah, this methodology should keep them safe.
[20:00] <Ubnoobtu> okay, thanks m8.
[20:01] <tsnyph> How would one test the output of a faulty usb port?
[20:02] <majod> hi. in fstab, can i use "defaults" and other parameters too? or if theres "defaults", no other parameter can be added?
[20:02] <rww> majod: i believe you can, but it's redundant
[20:02] <bekks> majod: All desired parameters can be added.
[20:03] <majod> rww: id like to use x-gvfs-show. but it doesnt work after i reboot.
[20:03] <ravindu> Ello
[20:03] <bekks> majod: Thats not a valid fstab option.
[20:03] <nagar> hello guys, I'm using gnome-boxes , but can't create any virtual machine, it says connection to (example.iso) failed, I checked via terminal command "  gnome-boxes --checks " this is the output "
[20:03] <nagar> (gnome-boxes:4695): Boxes-WARNING **: util-app.vala:247: Failed to execute child process "restorecon" (No such file or directory)
[20:03] <nagar> • The CPU is capable of virtualization: yes
[20:03] <nagar> • The KVM module is loaded: yes
[20:03] <nagar> • Libvirt KVM guest available: yes
[20:03] <ravindu> Ain't ubuntu beautiful?
[20:03] <nagar> • Boxes storage pool available: no
[20:03] <unopaste> nagar you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[20:03] <ravindu> Anyone hear me?
[20:03] <majod> bekks: i found it, nevermind. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-disk-utility/+bug/1011257
[20:03] <ravindu> What is the topic of covos right now?
[20:03] <ravindu> What is the topic of covos right now?
[20:03] <ravindu> What is the topic of covos right now?
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> ravindu, covos?
[20:04] <ravindu> *convos
[20:04] <rww> ravindu: type /topic
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> !details | ravindu
[20:04] <ravindu> thanks
[20:04] <rww> or see the topic widget at the top of your screen
[20:05] <DougsTech> YOLO
[20:05] <ravindu> What is Ubuntu Pastebin?
[20:05] <kostkon> !pastebin | ravindu
[20:06] <ravindu> kostkon, Thanks :)
[20:06] <ravindu> Why doesn't Ubuntu detect my AMD Radeon Sapphire HD 5450?
[20:06] <mexi_d3> rww: Topic widget? Which IRC client are you using? I might have to check it out.
[20:07] <ravindu> I've enabled PEG in my BIOS too
[20:07] <mexi_d3> ravindu: If you type `lspci` do you see it?
[20:07] <ravindu> nope.
[20:07] <rww> mexi_d3: ravindu is using xchat
[20:07] <ravindu> I see my Intel G41 OnBoard controller...
[20:08] <ravindu> Yep. I'm using XChat
[20:08] <daftykins> ravindu: you wouldn't be seeing a picture if it weren't
[20:08] <jack-> make sure it's plugged in perfectly
[20:08] <ravindu> I'm using my onboard Intel G41.
[20:08] <ravindu> okay.
[20:08] <mexi_d3> ravindu: Use anti-static if you open the PC.
[20:09] <ravindu> Yep.
[20:09] <ravindu> I will
[20:09] <ravindu> g2g
[20:09] <jack-> good luck
[20:10] <Sander^lap> What wireless network security mode do you guys recommend out of: wpa personal/wpa enterprise/wpa2 personal/wpa2 enterprise?
[20:11] <daftykins> WPA2 personal
[20:11] <DarkPeak> What's the difference between personal and enterprize?
[20:11] <daftykins> enterprise options are for workplace networks
[20:11] <daftykins> requiring logon servers and so forth
[20:11] <Sander^lap> TKIP+AES or AES only?
[20:11] <daftykins> AES
[20:11] <daftykins> never use mixed modes, they ask for trouble
[20:12] <DarkPeak> Ah so enterprise would use a domain server or directory system?
[20:12] <Ubnoobtu> wilee-nilee: Do you know anyone that can help my with Xorg configs?
[20:13] <daftykins> DarkPeak: yeah, plus probably certificates. look up IEEE 802.1x i think it is
[20:14] <DarkPeak> daftykins, ty
[20:14] <Ubnoobtu> Im having an issue with my video card, or soemthing. The display keeps sliding out..... I guess
[20:14] <Ubnoobtu> past the desktop, and the window goes outside the desktp, so that I can see a blue screen behind it
[20:15] <Sander^lap> Thanks!
[20:16] <Sander^lap> daftykins, should I use B or G mode only?
[20:16] <daftykins> that'll be down to what the client hardware supports, they are speeds
[20:17] <daftykins> you ought to read about wireless to understand more
[20:17] <Ubnoobtu> Anyone?
[20:17] <Sander^lap> daftykins, I know about them.. but I never remember the diffrence between them.. which speeds does each of them got?
[20:17] <Slidey> we upgraded from 12.10 to 14.04lts last night, and are now seeing really high latency on vms - pings between the host and the vms jump up massively on a seemingly random basis. anyone seen this elsewhere ?
[20:17] <daftykins> Sander^lap: just allow all modes. i am not a substitute for google
[20:18] <Sander^lap> daftykins, the alternative is mixed mode, which you didnt recommend.
[20:18] <Sander^lap> Ok ill google it
[20:18] <daftykins> yeah mixed for authentication
[20:18] <daftykins> speed = different
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, THe channel is pretty good with that, not myself is all.
[20:20] <Ubnoobtu> wilee-nilee: Can you help me rephrase my question? I know it isnt very descriptive.
[20:20] <Sander^lap> daftykins, Ah, ok, explains it, thanks again!
[20:21] <lazyworkaholic> I had a problem I couldn't fix, so I reinstalled ubuntu over the previous drive which had "/" (btrfs) and "/boot" (ext4). Then I rebooted, and fell into grub-recovery, which tell me it the device doesn't exist. What do I have to do?
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, Not sure I can, other than to avoid seems like decelerations, but a image off with your best description in this scenario.
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> of*
[20:24] <Ubnoobtu> okay, wilee-nilee, I'll try to get it. I can fix it manually thou, by going into the Xorg config and redoing the offset, so I'll have to screencap it once it does it again, probably after a reboot. but its a huge pain in the ass, but it doesnt stop it from functioning.
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, Cool, I jsu have not had to mess with this issue, I know mostly what I have had to fix, or learned from lurking. ;)
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> jsut*
[20:27] <Ubnoobtu> ugh, my system keeps freezing up when I go to youtube.
[20:27] <garbage_> anyone who can help me with this : my suspend function isnt working.. it just goes to the lock screen, never suspends the computer.. been googling for a while with no results :/
[20:28] <Ubnoobtu> garbage_:  I've had the issue before, Nothing seemed to help after awhile
[20:30] <garbage_> Ubnoobtu, you never got it solved ?
[20:30] <nimbiotics> hello all. I'm using ubuntu v14.04LTS with MATE. I have a Plantronics 995H wireless headset that was working fine until I installed some updates a couple of days ago. Now I have use the pulse audio control to indicate which input/output each application wants to use EVERYTIME. How can I fix this??
[20:32] <Exagone313> is there a way to open a graphic session on a server thought an online service?
[20:32] <Baribal_> Hi. I've fired up a VM, setting the default locale to en_US, but I get error messages like these; what did I miss to do? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7614798/
[20:32] <Exagone313> (hi)
[20:32] <Ubnoobtu> garbage_:   Not really. I just reinstalled yesterday, after having months of trouble I never got fixed 100%. I am sure there is some way to fix the problems but Im not suavvy enough to figure them out, muchless describe the problem accurately enough.
[20:33] <garbage_> damn it
[20:35] <ankurk__> I just installed OpenVPN on my VPS, how can I get the .opvn file?
[20:36] <Ubnoobtu> garbage_:  Don't give up man
[20:36] <Ubnoobtu> garbage_:  I mean, Really, before I had to reinstall, I had this problem where I couldnt enter the dash menu.
[20:37] <ankurk__> Anyone?
[20:37] <Ubnoobtu> I couldn't get to any of the programs I installed. Every time I opened it, guess what happened. It would lock the screen and make me log in all over again. It seemed anything asking for admin auth would boot me back
[20:37] <hansn> Hello. I got a problem. I removed myself from the sudoers group, and now I need to access the root shell prompt. I am unable to enter the grub menu and boot into recovery mode because all I see when I boot is a black screen with a purple border (pressing shift does not help). Is it possible to add myself to the sudoers group without booting into recovery mode?
[20:37] <garbage_> Ubnoobtu, haha, that sounds like linux ;)
[20:38] <arcsky> how do i install the new openssl 1.0.1h ?
[20:38] <arcsky> since i cant find it with apt-cache search ..
[20:38] <Ubnoobtu> garbage_: still better than win7/8
[20:38] <garbage_> true
[20:39] <Ubnoobtu> garbage_: The problem I am having now I think is with the Xorg config, or my Video drivers. My window will go out of the desktop, so that I can scroll around outside my desktop,
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> hansn, try at powering on tapping the shift as if shooting in a game
[20:39] <Ubnoobtu> and I can see blue behind it
[20:40] <hansn> wilee-nilee: thanks but I've tried that a couple of times
[20:40] <garbage_> your computer is in the fourth dimension, you just haven't harnessed the power of it yet
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> hansn, removing yourself in the sudo group is a bad idea.
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> or was
[20:40] <hansn> indeed
[20:40] <Ubnoobtu> lol.
[20:41] <Ubnoobtu> garbage_:  Well, good luck, lol, your PC doesnt want to go to bed, what a bad child.
[20:41] <kostkon> arcsky, all the versions of openssl have been patched in ubuntu, you don't nened to get 1.0.1h. just make sure that you have installed all your updates. More info here http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-2232-1/
[20:41] <garbage_> thanks :>
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> hansn, I think I actually saw someone here fix this sort of scenario, yes one time, it is theoretically possible.
[20:41] <hansn> wilee-nilee: usermod -G www-data hansn :)
[20:41] <hansn> well that's good
[20:42] <phillyj> is there a CLI tool or way to figure out my DSL speed (which I can now check only on my modem webpage)?
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> hansn, I would not hold your breath is all, that is no mans land.
[20:42] <FluxD> Hi, I don't know what causes this but my themes and interfaces become greyish like so: http://i.imgur.com/My1sAAl.png what causes this?
[20:42] <garbage_> phillyj, wget http://download.thinkbroadband.com/1GB.zip
[20:43] <phillyj> yea..what's that? i don't download random stuff
[20:43] <garbage_> i dunno, just googled for "1gb file"
[20:43] <garbage_> wget would tell you your dl speed
[20:43] <hansn> wilee-nilee: ah ok. All of the grub fixes require sudo as well, so I am reinstalling :)
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> hansn, Looks like a server? Do you have a working image saved?
[20:44] <hansn> sadly, no. It's just my local development system
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> hansn, clone it when it is a working setup
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> saves a lot of time
[20:45] <Clinteger> anyone know how to install a bootloader that works with efi boot on a macbook air with ubuntu and no os x ? ^^ on arch i used gummiboot and efistub and it worked just fine, but ubuntu tried to install grub and now I have no bootloader :-)
[20:45] <hansn> wilee-nilee: funny thing, just yesterday ubuntu was telling me to backup my files (and possibly create a working image?). I ignored it :)
[20:46] <FluxD> Hi, I don't know what causes this but my themes and interfaces become greyish like so: http://i.imgur.com/My1sAAl.png what causes this?
[20:46] <garbage_> FluxD, that looks normal
[20:47] <revscript> hey guys im back, still trying to get help with install...I am in live Ubuntu now
[20:47] <FluxD> garbage_, it's like a low graphics theme like in the past when you do sudo nautilus or similar
[20:48] <garbage_> FluxD, are you sure thats not just your firefox theme
[20:48] <garbage_> p sure that firefox looks that way by default
[20:48] <FluxD> garbage_, no it's everything xchat firefox, I will take a normal vs the broken way to show you
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> hansn, I just spent 8 hours trying to do a refresh on a W8.1 setup and three phone calls to MS over two days, on a problem a clone would have fixed in about 10mins. I had to have my friend purchase a W.81 disc supposedly pre activated, it was not, and train the MS help on how to listen to the issue so we could actually communicate, and get be a key generated for the disk.
[20:49] <revscript> wilee-nilee, what was that you were having me do before to determine whats going on with the install. I keep getting the message that it cannot use free space on the partition.
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> a nightmare
[20:49] <garbage_> wilee-nilee, i literally would have said fuck it and downloaded an iso of it after an hour
[20:49] <garbage_> youre braver than i am
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> revscript, a pastebin of sudo parted -l
[20:49] <revscript> wilee-nilee, where do i run that command
[20:50] <phillyj> without resorting to wget to download a file and check speeds, is there some way to look at the speed listed at my modem leve? (I hope I am not too vague)
[20:50] <wilee-nilee> garbage_, Don't swear, and your scenario is without actually using a legal means.
[20:50] <wilee-nilee> revscript, In the ubuntu terminal
[20:51] <wilee-nilee> garbage_, I had discs legal ones, we needed a legit activation
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> phillyj: speedtest.net maybe
[20:51] <hansn> wilee-nilee: I feel for you. Lucky for me my files are allready backed up in the cloud so I'm going to do a quick reinstall as soon as I wake up. Cheers!
[20:51] <revscript> wilee-nilee, sorry i meant where do i access the terminal in ubuntu
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> revscript: press CTRL + ALT + T
[20:51] <paorz> unable to reload Ubuntu 14.04. Lost Windows7 partition, and only have a partially working Ubuntu. Can someone pls walk me through  completely removing and reinstalling Ubuntu 14.04 so I can start anew?
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> revscript, at the ubuntu desktop in the dash searching with terminal or ctrl-alt-t
[20:52] <kostkon> phillyj, if you mean your up/down sync rates, then usually in your modem/router's settings
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> paorz: delete the Ubuntu partitions. Reinstate Grub to the MBR using the Windows CD
[20:53] <phillyj> kostkon: I'm trying to write a modem reset script, if my speeds fall below a threshold
[20:53] <revscript> wilee-nilee, something must be wrong as ctrl+alt+t does nothing..i dont see "terminal" under search either. It should be here in live mode also, no?
[20:54] <revscript> wilee-nilee, nm i got it now just delayed
[20:54] <wilee-nilee> revscript, should be, but to be honest I am not a handholder helper this sort of play by play help drives me crazy. ;)
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> revscript: its default setup in Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and Lubuntu
 wilee-nilee, nm i got it now just delayed cool
[20:54] <paorz> sorry so ignorant to all of this, need most basic info....don't know how to delete Ubuntu partitions, don't know what Grub to MBR  means, and don't have windows CD...I'm a hard case.
[20:55] <wilee-nilee> ActionParsnip> paorz: delete the Ubuntu partitions. Reinstate Grub to the MBR using the Windows CD Heh could you describe what that means. ;)
[20:55] <FluxD> Hi, could someone tell me why my theme keeps going like low resolution and choppy http://i.imgur.com/0Zg8nw0.png http://i.imgur.com/0T822Tz.png the bad vs the good version. I am not messing with any themes at all
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> paorz: use Windows to delete the partitions. You can use ##windows to see how you can reinstate the Windows boot loader
[20:56]  * wilee-nilee looks up the definition of Reinstate
[20:57] <Corvette> I'm trying to chmod something and it tells me the directory is invalid but the directory is valid
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> Corvette: is the folder stored on an NTFS partitions?
[20:59] <FluxD> Hi, could someone tell me why my theme keeps going like low resolution and choppy http://i.imgur.com/0Zg8nw0.png http://i.imgur.com/0T822Tz.png the bad vs the good version. I am not messing with any themes at all
[20:59] <Corvette> ActionParsnip no it's ext4
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> ActionParsnip, Thanks for restating that!! In general in many areas you are the best help here, among others, not questioning you abilities and calm demeanor. ;)
[21:00] <paorz> where to I use ##windows?
[21:00] <kostkon> phillyj, find a good speed test service, one that provides some kind of api, and make your script query it every now and then?
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> Corvette: use TAB to complete the folder name, does it help
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> paorz: type: /join ##windows
[21:01] <revscript> wilee-nilee, parted shows me invalid option '-1'
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> wilee-nilee: some, many are better dude
[21:01] <bekks> revscript: minus small letter l, not number one.
[21:02] <Corvette> ActionParsnip no it doesn't. In fact I can't even enter the command
[21:02] <Corvette> 'nautilus /home/me/
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> revscript: if you copy and paste given commands, you won't botch them
[21:02] <paorz> AP...where do I go to type:/join##windows
[21:02] <Ubnoobtu> lol, wilee-nilee and garbage_ , you guys are funny.
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> paorz: in yor IRC client
[21:02] <bekks> paorz: there, were you are typing your questions.
[21:02] <hansn> Hi there. Is it possible to boot into a live USB without going through the grub menu via reboot?
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> hansn: your BIOS will boot the USB, not Grub
[21:04] <revscript> wilee-nilee, here is pastebin http://pastebin.com/LCShuDij
[21:04] <hansn> ActionParsnip: oh of course.
[21:04] <hansn> ActionParsnip: any way around that, then?
[21:04] <paorz> says unknown command when typed here
[21:05] <Clinteger> hi guys, looking for help installing any efi bootloader on a macbook air. grub requires that the efi boot partition be vfat, but apparently macs will only boot if it is hfs+
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> hansn: how would it work without a reboot? It makes no sense. You must reboot to boot the usb instead of your internal drive.
[21:06] <Amigadude> paorz, /join ##windows
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> paorz: there is a space which you probably missed
[21:06] <Amigadude> u need the space
[21:06] <paorz> join ##windows
[21:06] <Ubnoobtu> I love booting from USBs, Its soo cooool. That one thing makes me feel like a hacker
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> ActionParsnip, I recognize humility, I have some top 2% skills in other areas, but I hope you can get the gist.
[21:06] <kostkon> paorz, you also need the forward slash
[21:06] <revscript> to anyone, http://pastebin.com/LCShuDij
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> paorz: with a leading slash.....
[21:07] <hansn> ActionParsnip: I see. It's just that it's not booting into usb as it should so I was wondering if there was some other way.
[21:07] <Ubnoobtu> wilee-nilee: What skills are those?
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> hansn: no, if you want to 'boot' something you must reboot
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> revscript: what is the issue?
[21:08] <paorz> when I type "/join ##windows" and hit enter nothing happens
[21:08] <JoshDreamland> hi all; after I updated to 14.04, my applications and such disappeared from the Wine submenu of my applications menu
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> paorz: look at where it says #ubuntu around your client, do you also see ##windows ?
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, I am not here to brag, humility when you have some skills that seperate you from even your peers in a wide field are needed for improvement. ;)
[21:09] <JoshDreamland> is there a way to get them back?
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> JoshDreamland: what version did you upgrade from?
[21:09] <JoshDreamland> 13.10
[21:09] <revscript> ActionParsnip, it will not install via default, it says it cannot use due to free space
[21:09] <paorz> ah yes will go there now, thanks
[21:09] <Amigadude> how do set the button areas on a touchpad to not be touchpad... it reacts like I'm trying to multitouch rather than hold button and drag
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> paorz: so something did happen.....
[21:10] <Ubnoobtu> wilee-nilee: hit me up with a PM tho bro.
[21:10] <Ubnoobtu> I dont know how
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, I have pm off, but thanks for the interest. ;)
[21:10] <JoshDreamland> I tried `wine winemenubuilder`, but that didn't do anything
[21:11] <Ubnoobtu> wilee-nilee: You've help me so many times before, I need some advice from someone good natured and skilled, and you're that guy.
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> revscript: well, its all NTFS....no free space. Where is Ubuntu going to install?
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> my peers know  me that is all I need Ubnoobtu
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> revscript: do you have Windows installed at the moment?
[21:11] <Ubnoobtu> wilee-nilee: OI, so how does one best study for a linux admin cert? And whats the best certs to get?
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, good natured, heh, If you ran a poll here I doubt I would score anywhere near.
[21:12] <paorz> AP...yes it moved me to windows chat...will ask them how to reinstate Windows boot loader?
[21:12] <Ubnoobtu> wilee-nilee: Don't temp me, lol. Polls are quiet interesting to me
[21:12] <revscript> ActionParsnip, no I wiped both HD, I am only using live atm
[21:12] <Ubnoobtu> tempt****
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, certs I would have no clue, I'm basically an armchair advocate.
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> revscript: your partition is showing ntfs, if you delete that partition you will lose all the data on it but you will then be able to install
[21:13] <revscript> ActionParsnip, so what do i need to set the partitions at in order for it to have free space to install, or do i have to create ext2, ex4 or whatever in advance with minitool
[21:13] <Ubnoobtu> wilee-nilee: Oh, me too,  But I'd like to make some money from doing this sort of thing, so I've been bettering my skills for little over a year now, and I've not made much progress beside being more confident.
[21:14] <Ubnoobtu> I wish there was an ubuntu cheat sheet, or like, all that stuff thats related.
[21:14] <wilee-nilee> Ubnoobtu, Sure, this area is really offtopic so maybe #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux might be more helpful.
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> !manual | Ubnoobtu
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Ubnoobtu: you ok with using Windows?
[21:15] <nimbiotics> hello all. I'm using ubuntu v14.04LTS with MATE. I have a Plantronics 995H wireless headset that was working fine until I installed some updates a couple of days ago. Now I have use the pulse audio control to indicate which input/output each application wants to use EVERYTIME. How can I fix this??
[21:16] <revscript> ActionParsnip, so basically to install i need no partitions at all? should it say unallocated?
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> nimbiotics: try: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse*
[21:16] <Ubnoobtu> ActionParsnip: I'm pretty good with win7, I guess as a rare user, win8 baffles me.
[21:17] <jojoa1997> I am trying to install ubuntu 14.04-i386 on my laptop which has a Pentium III cpu. I am trying to get the forcepae to work but I do not know how to edit perameter line I get when pressing TAB. it is ".config /multiboot/ubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386/isolinux.cfg /multiboot/ubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386/isolinux". Where does the forcepae go?
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> Ubnoobtu: and how did you get proficient with Windows?
[21:17] <robotdevil> so what the npapi solutions for chrome? I cant use pipelight with it? Firefox only?
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> revscript: use Gparted and you can manipulate the partitions
[21:18] <kostkon> jojoa1997, is it a pentium m? otherwise, you don't need forcepae
[21:18] <Ubnoobtu> ActionParsnip: I grew up using it, so just using it, but what if I wanted to accelerate my progress.
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> Ubnoobtu: then why not do the same with Ubuntu...?
[21:18] <revscript> ActionParsnip, yes i just unmounted the SSD and deleted the partition. Sounds like I should be good now to do default install? Or do I have to choose something else and specify / and /home
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> Ubnoobtu: just use it and learn the same way
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> revscript: yeah should be ok
[21:19] <revscript> ActionParsnip, going to try install now ill check back in a bit
[21:19] <Ubnoobtu> ActionParsnip: Its a bit harder with TCI systems thou
[21:19] <ikonia> TCI ?
[21:20] <kai__> hi
[21:20] <jojoa1997> kostkon I do not know entirely but it says that pae is not supported(i already knew) and with "cat /proc/cpuinfo" it gave me the family 6 model 9 and a pentium cpu. Here http://www.paradicesoftware.com/specs/cpuid/index.htm it says Mobile Pentium III but idk if that is Pentium M.
[21:21] <kostkon> jojoa1997, penitum m most likely then
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> jojoa1997: hold shift and you can lress E to (e)dit the boot options. You can add what you need
[21:21] <Ubnoobtu> The terminal command lines
[21:22] <kai__> is there a known issiu with python-numpy ? when i try to install a packe python numpy throws an error
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> !away > megabit|away
[21:22] <Ubnoobtu> or whatever, see, what I think I understand, I have no clue, so Im clueless
[21:22] <kai__> (ubunut 14.04)
[21:22] <jojoa1997> shift + e isnt working
[21:22] <OerHeks> pentium III .. maybe lubuntu will run, ubuntu is certainly too heavy
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> jojoa1997: hold shift then when you see the screen press e. Its not shift + e
[21:23] <JerryP> Anyone use QEMU? What do you use to install guest OS? Just CLI or a GUI?
[21:23] <deus__> exit
[21:23] <ikonia> JerryP: libvirt and virtmanager are quite solid
[21:23] <skinux> How come we have to browse Windows partition in Nautilus so that we can access any files on that partition via shell?
[21:24] <ikonia> skinux: how do you expect to use a gui file manager to access files wihtout browsing to them
[21:24] <Clinteger> oops I think I just deleted the kernel?
[21:25] <JoshDreamland> hm
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> skinux: if you add the NTFS partition in /etc/fstab you can access it as you like
[21:25] <JoshDreamland> the menu appears in alcarte correctly
[21:25] <JoshDreamland> it's just not showing up in my XFCE menu
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> skinux: nautilus is just handling the mount for you....
[21:25] <JoshDreamland> I can create folders around it, and they'll appear, and I can hide other items, and they'll disappear, but it vehemently refuses to show that menu
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> JoshDreamland: you could add a line in the .desktop file to make it show in xfce
[21:26] <JoshDreamland> it always did before; not sure why it stopped. But what line?
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> JoshDreamland: if you read the file for mousepad or similar youll see it
[21:29] <jojoa1997> what would be better for a server on a mobile pentium III cpu. ubuntu 14.04 or lubuntu 14.04?
[21:29] <jojoa1997> also it is a local server that wont connect to the net
[21:29] <JoshDreamland> I see name, genericname, comment, exec, icon, terminal, startupnotify, type, categories, and mimetype; nothing XFCE-specific
[21:30] <Corvette> How can I make VLC the default video player
[21:30] <Clinteger> are there https apt sources for ubuntu ?
[21:31] <JerryP> ikonia: is libvirt just the API? I found Virtual Machine Manager (VMM aka "virt-manager"), was that the other one that you were talking about?
[21:31] <kieppie> morning
[21:32] <keevitaja> hello, i wanna switch from mint to ubuntu. in installer there is an option to change mint with ubuntu and warning, that it will destroy all files. will it format other partitions as well or only the one where mint is installed
[21:32] <kieppie> I've just ran my periodic updates/upgrades & now for some reason the OpenVPN configs I had defined in my NetworkManager is unable to connect - & from what I can see the logs aren't much help either. Any help, please?
[21:33] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: will try, thx
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> keevitaja, That is true if you overwrite the area mint is in. It seems you have stuff you want to save?
[21:34] <kostkon> jojoa1997, the llighter the better. you could install the server version and add a DE later, if you need one at all
[21:34] <keevitaja> yes, but they are all on sepparate partition
[21:34] <revscript> lovely, so now it hangs at the 'preparing to install ubuntu' page, the one where it tells you to plug in power and internet..
[21:34] <wilee-nilee> wilee-nilee, You can use the something other option a manual install and just overwrite that partition
[21:34] <keevitaja> ok, tnx
[21:34] <jojoa1997> kostkon ok i think i will go with lubuntu. I need the gui for being able to use the dell like a normal laptop too
[21:35] <JoshDreamland> so I google "alacarte wine menu" thinking maybe somehow this will return relevant results
[21:35] <jojoa1997> and there is no 32bit ubuntu server 14.04
[21:35] <JoshDreamland> fml
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> keevitaja, Cool, if you need my help again, just preface any inquiry with my nick. ;)
[21:35] <kostkon> jojoa1997, ok then. it will do. if you overcome the forcepae problem that is
[21:35] <revscript> ok, this is progress i now have all options, but should i choose LVM with the new ubuntu installation or erase disk and install ubuntu or the something else option???
[21:36] <jojoa1997> kostkon oh yeah it worked
[21:36] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: I did execute the killall command tried opening a program that generates audio (UrT), but I still had to go back to pulseaudio volume control in order to to select correct audio device
[21:36] <kostkon> jojoa1997, :)
[21:37] <nytelife> hola
[21:37] <revscript> so guys, Logical Volume Management or Erase disk and install Ubuntu, or 'something else' option?
[21:37] <nytelife> Question:  Sometimes when I disconnect my vpn from work, the resolv.conf symlink breaks
[21:37] <nytelife> is this a know issue?
[21:37] <nytelife> easily fixed..just a pain
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> jojoa1997, look here for 32 bit server. http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[21:39] <nimbiotics> ActionParsnip: I read on a forum something about the number being assigned to it changing inconsistently and that you can hard code which number you want assigned to it but I could not figure out how, the articule wasnt very clear
[21:44] <JoshDreamland> okay, apparently it isn't displaying menus which only contain menus and not programs (even if the menus it contains themselves contain programs)
[21:44] <JoshDreamland> so all I have to do is create a dummy item in that folder and it displays
[21:44] <TimothyMcVeigh> What up bitches?
[21:44] <JoshDreamland> simple regression
[21:45] <wilee-nilee> TimothyMcVeigh, the ignore function
[21:47] <SenorSenpai> hey guys having a slight issue, transfer speeds from an internal HDD to a USB3 external HDD suddenly went slow after earlier today I opened pavucontrol, which in turn fried something and my mic and camera stopped working (usb devices just failed to work at all after rebooting with them in) any logs I can check to find out what happened?
[21:48] <kostkon> SenorSenpai, check all of them? well, most of them. logs are in /var/log.  you can use the System Log app to do that
[21:49] <paorz> how do dump my current Ubuntu 14.04 and reinstall again? When I try to load from DVD it loads directly to with my username asking for password, rather than giving options for fresh install.
[21:50] <nytelife> bios boot order
[21:50] <sydney> paorz:I am not a pro at this,but are you sure that it booted from the dvd?
[21:51] <wilee-nilee> paorz, "loads directly to with my username asking for password" Is this the installed login gui?
[21:51] <nytelife> paorz:  go into bios and change boot order
[21:51] <sydney> It sounds like it booted from the hard disk,not the dvd
[21:51] <paorz> no I think it's booting from the computer, but don't know why as the dvd is in when I restart
[21:52] <nytelife> can anyone see this?  just testing as I am not getting responses to questions or comments
[21:52] <sydney> nytelife: I see it loud and clear...:D
[21:52] <nytelife> thanks
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> paorz, As suggested you can set the disk as first read in the bios, but there is also a per-session boot menu
[21:53] <sydney> paorz: Your bios boot settings have to be changed. ;)
[21:53] <TeraJL>  hi there, i'm trying to run illustrator (https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=26011) i've copied the folders from a working windows installation , and i've installed on wine some required software, but i'm getting this error, "wine: Call from 0x7bc4c0f0 to unimplemented function USER32.dll.SetGestureConfig, aborting wine: Unimplemented function USER32.dll.SetGestureConfig called at address 0x7bc4c0f0 (thread 0
[21:53] <wilee-nilee> not have to there is a per session boot outside the bios sydney
[21:54] <paorz> wilee-nilee/sydney: pls how do I set the disk as first read in the bios
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> paorz, open the bios go to the HD read section set the disk as first read
[21:55] <frygor> or find something named "boot order" in bios
[21:55] <paorz> wilee-nilee: emparassed, don't know what bios are or how to open
[21:55] <wilee-nilee> paorz, Cool, I think others will be better help here. ;)
[21:55] <frygor> when u restart the computer, then it should show, what key enters to Setup
[21:56] <frygor> usually F2, Del, F10 or something like that
[21:56] <nytelife> ^^^
[21:56] <frygor> but u have to be quick
[21:56] <nytelife> it will tell you when you reboot
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> frygor, be sure to preface with nicks so this is a who you are talking to situation.
[21:56] <nytelife> it well say hit "some key" to go into settings/bios....
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> nytelife, same for you use nicks
[21:56] <nytelife> what is the quick way to preface nics?
[21:57] <frygor> wilee-nilee, okey, tring to remember :)
[21:57] <wilee-nilee> !tab
[21:57] <nytelife> wilee-nilee, ah ok
[21:57] <SenorSenpai> kostkon: is there in way i can watch in real time iostat? ive noticed that it reads then writes, which causes it to stop copying to the drive for a few seconds. is that normal?
[21:57] <wilee-nilee> nytelife, Cool, thanks. ;)
[21:57] <wilee-nilee> time for starbucks anyone want anything? ;)
[21:58] <kostkon> SenorSenpai, i have never used it, so it's safe to say i'm not in the best position to help you
[21:58] <steamboat> hi, I've got a weird keyboard issue -- as best as I can tell from poking at xev, w and the super key are both firing events for both of them. likewise z and altR, and x and altL
[21:59] <paorz> anybody able to walk me through setting dvd to read first upon start up?
[22:01] <sydney> paorz: When you reboot,right after the computer cycles back on,it will show a message. when that first message shows up,it should say somthing like "hit f2 to enter bios settup.(it may not be f2,it may be Del or f10)
[22:01] <paorz> thanks will try
[22:02] <intx> or f8
[22:02] <intx> or f9
[22:02] <steamboat> also  the key to the left of w as CntrlL
[22:02] <steamboat> and 1+1 as CntrlR
[22:03] <sydney> paorz: then you have to navigate to the boot sequence area,and change the boot sequence.
[22:03] <sydney> All of mine are f2. ;)
[22:06] <paorz> sydney: i originally loaded Ubuntu along side Windows7 , the first thing I see that shows up is the choice between Ubuntu and Windows7, at least that was till I messed up partitions with gparted...don't care about windows at this point...will try to see it though upon reload now and see if boot sequence...thanks for responding.
[22:06] <CalimeroTeknik> on ubuntu 12.04 server I get pretty bad lockups when going over 5 of load on a 4-processor 8-thread server, how can I fix that?
[22:06] <CalimeroTeknik> like, ping takes 10 seconds to respond every 10 seconds
[22:07] <CalimeroTeknik> or 2 seconds of lockup, it depends; it never exceeds 10 seconds though
[22:07] <steamboat> this holds even in dvorak keyboard.
[22:09] <sydney> I have enough trouble telling my relatives what a bois is!! :P
[22:11]  * Asterisks googles bois
[22:12] <CalimeroTeknik> wood in French?
[22:12] <Asterisks> "Boi (plural: bois) is a term used within LGBT and butch and femme communities to refer to a person's sexual and/or gender identities."
[22:12] <Asterisks> I'm assuming he means this
[22:12] <Asterisks> never heard that slang before
[22:13] <Asterisks> and back on topic, what's going on in the ubuntu community today?
[22:14] <CalimeroTeknik> I'd like to know what I can do about my 12.04 server freezing network connections for 10 seconds
[22:14] <CalimeroTeknik> whenever the load exceeds 5
[22:15] <CalimeroTeknik> well, it can be 7 and not cause that, but…
[22:17] <CalimeroTeknik> yup, even my processes halt for 10 seconds
[22:17] <CalimeroTeknik> it's not just network connections
[22:17] <CalimeroTeknik> the system locks up for 10 seconds
[22:17] <ki7rw> i can't seem to print to my HP network printer but i can ping it and i can print a test page with the device manager - i tried reinstalling the driver with no solution
[22:17] <CalimeroTeknik> whenever the load exceeds the number of CPUs
[22:19] <sydney> ki7rw: Are you sureyou are printing to the right printer? ;)
[22:21] <CalimeroTeknik> can irqbalance be the cause of 10-second lockups under high load?
[22:22] <ki7rw> sydney: yes
[22:22] <sydney> Hmm
[22:23] <tdelam> Hi, I am dual-booting Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on my Macbook Pro. Does anyone know if it's possible to change the shortcuts to be more OSX-like? I am having a reall hard time between the 2 operating systems shortcuts
[22:25] <sydney> ki7rw: Not sure..... :(
[22:25] <cebor> hi, when i setup a static ip, must i also state network/broadcast ip? or do i get them from the netmask ?
[22:34] <gompa> can someone please explain to me how to run a kvm host where the guests are able to connect to each other and to the Internet but not to the lan network?
[22:36] <ukaz> eix gcr
[22:36] <pavlos> !de | pavlos
[22:38] <simo_> please somenody help, im doing a ubuntu update to 12.04, in the terminal i had an option with many option of which of them was to type D to see the difences, i entered d and now dunno how to get back to the previous dialogue to continue the updgare  http://pastebin.com/3m8uyF0J
[22:40] <brycefisherfleig> I'm using 12.04. Is there a recommended way to install Firefox Aurora (the alpha release)?
[22:40] <Jordan_U> simo_: Press 'q' to exit less. ( "less" is the command run to view the diff ).
[22:42] <OerHeks> brycefisherfleig, if you really want ff 31, add the ppa https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/firefox-aurora
[22:43] <brycefisherfleig> OerHeks: awesome! I'll give that a try
[22:44] <OerHeks> brycefisherfleig, carefull with ppa's, they can break something ... but it is reversible with PPA-Purge
[22:46] <joey_> hi
[22:46] <joey_> i need help with something
[22:46] <joey_> i want to use my gpu's memory as a disk
[22:47] <joey_> so I am trying to make this : http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Using_Graphics_Card_Memory_as_Swap
[22:47] <joey_> work
[22:47] <joey_> but when I use modprobe phram phram=VRAM,0xd8400000,124Mi lets say
[22:47] <joey_> i get an error
[22:48] <joey_> about phram Input/output error
[22:49] <joey_> yet mtd phram is set in th ekernel and all
[22:49] <joey_> what is my problem?
[22:53] <joey_> no?
[22:53] <joey_> no help :/ ?
[22:58] <OerHeks> joey_, are you performing this howto on ubuntu?
[22:59] <joey_> yes
[23:00] <Azzmazing> ;)
[23:00] <Azzmazing> Ubuntu is so problematic everyday there seems to be some problem Uhhh so frustrating!
[23:04] <alin1> hello
[23:04] <alin1> test weechat on ubuntu 14.04
[23:06] <robotron> Azzmazing: anyways it gives You opportunity to solve problems
[23:06] <blue> hi
[23:11] <joey_> So does anyone know why I can an error when I use phram with modprobe ?
[23:13] <OerHeks> joey_, as there are no official guides, to do this, is that videocard in use?
[23:13] <joey_> Yes my video card is in use and shows up with lspci -vvv -s *
[23:14] <OerHeks> i think using Gpu memory as swap, cannot be done when the system is using that config with unity and stuff
[23:14] <joey_> im not using unity btw
[23:14] <joey_> but xfce4
[23:15] <joey_> without compositing
[23:15] <OerHeks> it could work on a headless server
[23:15] <joey_> ?
[23:16] <OerHeks> you might want to ask this on askubuntu too
[23:20] <joey_> ok brb
[23:25] <sydney> SenorSenpai: Did you get your problem fixed?]
[23:25] <joey_> Hi, I want to use my GPU's ram as a ramdisk, following these instructions :
[23:25] <joey_> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Using_Graphics_Card_Memory_as_Swap
[23:25] <joey_> But when I input the " modprobe phram phram=VRAM,0xd8400000,124Mi " command, I get the following error : modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'phram': Input/output error
[23:25] <joey_> Also, is there anyway I could use more than the 128M of prefetchable memory, my GPU has 1GB of ram, I would prefer to use "most" of it.
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> joey_, posting in multiple channels is a rude way of doing this.
[23:27] <joey_> I'm sorry... ?
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> you are in permanent ignore here
[23:27] <joey_> Did I just loose my ticket to get help ?
[23:27] <joey_> Oh wow great
[23:28] <joey_> So I am damned
[23:28] <joey_> That's basicly it ?
[23:29] <kostkon> !patience | joey_
[23:35] <SenorSenpai> http://sc-cdn.scaleengine.net/i/faf27181aee18e0b216136d699b3dca9.png :( usb3
[23:36] <Pici> joey_: are you sure that is the correct memory location?  Also, I'm not sure, but you may need to load the mtd module first.
[23:38] <joey_> Yes it's the memory location given by the lspci -vvv -s **** command and I have I am pretty sure I have loaded the MTD modules, most are =m some =y
[23:44] <studio> hola
[23:44] <basheba> hey I just upgraded to 1404 and now I have no text in chromium.  Any fix?
[23:44] <basheba> !chromium
[23:44] <studio> hola
[23:45] <joey_> hola
[23:46] <wilee-nilee> basheba, probably a reset function in chromium, I would look there first.
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> basheba, https://productforums.google.com/forum/?_escaped_fragment_=topic/chrome/QOTm1mhdLcM#!topic/chrome/QOTm1mhdLcM
[23:48] <sydney> basheba: settings,Advanced settings,Reset Browser settings?
[23:48] <markolo2_> hello
[23:48] <markolo2_> i ran my program with an &
[23:48] <markolo2_> will it keep going after i close putty
[23:49] <basheba> did that still no text
[23:49] <studio> HOLA
[23:49] <wilee-nilee> markolo2_, More distinct details needed.
[23:49] <studio> HOLA
[23:49] <studio> hola
[23:49] <markolo2_> i ran tar xf mark.tar.gz &
[23:49] <sydney> Hi :P
[23:50] <wilee-nilee> studio, We see you, do you have a support issue?
[23:50] <studio> como estas?¡
[23:50] <wilee-nilee> !es | studio
[23:50] <markolo2_> i want a process to run after typing the command
[23:50] <markolo2_> also after closing putty
[23:51] <studio> puta yo no habloingles
[23:52] <kostkon> !es | studio
[23:52] <wilee-nilee> studio, use the right channel, english here.
[23:52] <markolo2_> damn he cussed us english speakers out Q_Q
[23:53] <joey_> lol
[23:54] <markolo2_> so how do i keep a process running after closing putty
[23:55] <sydney> basheba: Try making a new user/
[23:55] <sydney> ?
[23:56] <basheba> I uninstalled and guess what!  There is now java and flash in rekonq
[23:56] <zerowaitstate> markolo25_: one option is nohup
[23:56] <SchrodingersScat> !info screen | markolo25_ use screen
[23:57] <sydney> basheba: :D
[23:57] <zerowaitstate> markolo25_: you can also persist a session using screen/tmux/byobu
[23:57] <markolo25_> so i would type the command like this : $screen tar xf fafa.tar.gz
[23:58] <zerowaitstate> markolo25_: the thing w/ nohup is that standard output (and possibly input) needs to be redirected. with screen, etc, you can just jump back into the terminal session
[23:58] <markolo25_> there's no output since it's just a tar extract
[23:58] <markolo25_> i just wanted it to keep extracting after turning off my laptop so i can get ice cream
[23:59] <SchrodingersScat> markolo25_: that should be fine


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[07:13] <Katsuma> Is this ops from #ubuntu-uk?
[07:15] <IdleOne> Katsuma: you're going to need to be patient, but seeing how you aren't banned in #ubuntu-uk you could message one of the ops in that channel and talk to them
[07:16] <IdleOne> btw #freenode has nothing to do with ubuntu ops
[07:16] <Katsuma> IdleOne: who do you recomend talking to?
[07:17] <IdleOne> probably AlanBell, send him a message and he will get to it ASAP
[07:22] <Katsuma> IdleOne: I sent him a PM
[08:41] <popey> wonder who that was/is
[08:46] <bazhang> popey, the kid who had about 20 different garfield comic nicks
[08:47] <bazhang> probably the number one issue/troll ever in -uk
[08:47] <popey> ugh


[00:49] <len-dt> ailo, should you see this... the  rtirq script sets the priority of everything, but audio highest.
[01:28] <len-dt> I'm thinking that may be a problem with my setup. Both of my sound cards are the same priority.
[09:39] <ailo> len-dt: Except right now, it's not doing what it's supposed to be doing
[12:17] <ScottL> ailo, len-dt if you are using the rtirq script you can talk to rui about it, he probably can be found #qtractor (if there is one) and he idles in #opensourcemusicians
[13:19] <len-dt> ailo, http://wiki.linuxmusicians.com/doku.php?id=system_configuration talks about the rtirq script and says the kernel option to use it is threadirqs.
[13:20] <len-dt> Has that been changed to IRQ_FORCED_THREADING?
[17:47] <ailo> There's an option called CONFIG_RT_GROUP_SCHED, which is enabled for Ubuntu but not for Debian (which I am on now), so I'm compiling a kernel with that enabled to see what happens
[17:48] <ailo> len-dt: Nice link btw. I really lack a lot of knowledge on this, but not for long..
[17:50] <ailo> Would be nice to have a supercomputer when trying different kernel configs. Or, just put several builds on que before going to sleep :P
[18:14] <scott-work> hehe, i ran into this last night.  someone reviewed various linux distros and chose ubuntu studio as the best multimedia distro:  https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/571815-the-2012-top-7-best-linux-distributions-for-you
[19:22] <ailo> So far I can't find any documentation that tells the whole story about rtprio and IRQ
[19:22] <ailo> CONFIG_RT_GROUP_SCHED used to be hazzle in the early days of CGROUP usage
[22:43] <len-dt> ailo, my irq priority looks about right. It seems to follow the script.
[22:45] <len-dt> rtc0 is 90, my soundcards are 85, usb2 is 80, usb1 is 79, the i8042s are 75 and 74 and the rest 50.
[22:47] <len-dt> ailo, I was looking at the "blurbs" for some MBs. They all seem to stress the speed of access the video controller has. This seems less than optimal for audio work.
[22:49] <ailo> len-dt: There seem to be some problems anyhow, and the rtirq script is not able to solve all of them. But, right now, rtprio is being managed by something else as well. If you disable the script, there are still raised prio for stuff
[22:49] <len-dt> I am wondering if I should list my sound cards separately so that my d66 gets a higher priority than the ensoniq. The ensoniq is only used for midi.
[22:50] <ailo> len-dt: It seems you can edit the rtirq conf file and have your own custom config
[22:50] <ailo> in /etc/default/rtirq
[22:51] <ailo> Also, there's the question whether the whole IRQ should get raised prio, or not. It would seem it is perfectly possible to raise prio for just the device, not the whole IRQ
[22:51] <len-dt> Ya I was looking at that, they use snd. I would put snd_ice1 and snd_ens1
[22:51] <len-dt> If the irq is not shared does it matter?
[22:51] <ailo> Nope
[22:52] <ailo> But, it would be very helpful if this problem could be solved
[22:52] <ailo> People with laptops and IRQ problems have little options
[22:52] <len-dt> ailo, I am not quite sure what the problem is.
[22:53] <ailo> Shared IRQ mainly
[22:53] <ailo> rtprio does nothing for me. Never has.
[22:53] <ailo> So, I have no first hand experience in what it does
[22:54] <len-dt> I don't know if it does for me either. Where I put the cards does though.
[22:54] <ailo> I will try to create problems for myself later on. Setting up multiple machines for testing through the network
[22:54] <len-dt> It even seems to matter what order the modules are loaded.
[22:54] <ailo> I only know that people who do have IRQ sharing have had their problem solved with the rt kernel + the rtirq script
[22:58] <ailo> len-dt: You mean hw:1, hw:2 - the order for audio devices?
[22:59] <len-dt> ailo, I have five pci slots. The bottom most slots get a higher irq... 23 and down to the top slot.
[22:59] <ailo> len-dt: How do you know it is the order that matters?
[23:00] <len-dt> I had eth0 in the bottom slot which is shared with usb2
[23:00] <ailo> For me it has no effect at all
[23:00] <len-dt> and then the ensoniq and then the d66
[23:00] <ailo> len-dt: What driver do you have for the eth0? What chip is it?
[23:00] <len-dt> When I had -p 64 set and was downloading software I had xruns.
[23:01] <len-dt> when I changed them around the xruns went away
[23:02] <ailo> I tried to duplicate this, but I was not having any problems due to a network device. It would help if I knew what driver it is. I might have a network card here with the same chip
[23:02] <len-dt> the eth0 module is 8139too
[23:03] <len-dt> I think though it may also be my old MB (7-8years old)
[23:05] <ailo> Don't think I have that one
[23:05] <len-dt> I was reading about changing the length of time allotted to each pci card and it seemed to say there are two versions of pci slot (aside from pcie)
[23:05] <ailo> latency for pci?
[23:05] <len-dt> The MB may have something to do with how the cards are serviced.
[23:06] <len-dt> Not really latency. the amount of time a card can steal the bus before it has to give it up.
[23:06] <ailo> Still, having the network device interrupt the audio device is not acceptable
[23:06] <len-dt> It doesn't any more. :-)
[23:07] <len-dt> I can work quite acceptably at -p32 for  live stuff like guitar effects.
[23:07] <len-dt> Some xruns, but nothing I can hear.
[23:07] <len-dt> For recording, I want no xruns.
[23:08] <len-dt> ailo, for recording, I would probably work at -p1024 and use HW monitoring.
[23:10] <ailo> I've been working with kernel configs for the Debian kernel, and getting low latency is very easy. Just a matter of a couple of configs, but I have no rtprio, at least nothing that can be read with the ps command
[23:10] <len-dt> The PCIe cards don't have a problem because they are star connected.
[23:10] <ailo> For me, all I need are those couple of configs, and I'm good to go with all of my devices, pci, firewire, builtin..
[23:11] <ailo> I haven't been working a lot with midi though, and alsa midi is not reliable at all when it comes to controlling external devices
[23:11] <ailo> The link you gave had some settings for hpet and stuff that is important for midi
[23:12] <len-dt> ailo, yes and we don't have them.
[23:12] <ailo> Would be good to test those and see how they change performance
[23:12] <len-dt> I am not a key player. So it is really hard for me to test that.
[23:12] <ailo> All I know for sure is that controlling an external midi synth using alsa midi gives very poor results
[23:13] <ailo> If you can't hear the difference, it doesn't matter much
[23:13] <len-dt> If someone sends me a .mid file (or whatever they use these days) I could test it.
[23:13] <len-dt> I have about 4 external midi boxes.
[23:14] <len-dt> I suspect just playing one synth from the keyboard will not put enough stress on things to show anything up.
[23:15] <len-dt> Some of these "House" guys do _everything_ with a synth.
[23:15] <ailo> When you play live it's not as easy to tell, unless you are a kb player. The best is to make one bar of music with any sequencer, and just copy it. Then record it
[23:16] <ailo> If you don't trust your ears you can always check the audio file for inconsistency
[23:16] <ailo> There is a huge timing error with alsa midi normally
[23:16] <ailo> Not internally, when only using software
[23:16] <ailo> But, when you send midi out to an external device
[23:16] <len-dt> ailo, So jack would have the same problem then?
[23:17] <ailo> jack midi should be reliable
[23:17] <ailo> though, a2j is not going to help
[23:17] <len-dt> Seems to me jack uses asla?
[23:18] <len-dt> a2j doesn't bridge external ports, I use jack set to "raw"
[23:19] <ailo> I have three types of midi I can try. usb, pci and firewire. Only the last one is jack midi capable
[23:21] <ailo> I think. Anyway, I still need to set up these machines for testing. Better get the image server working..
[23:22] <len-dt> ailo, a2j would help because it takes internal alsa midi and bridges to jack where the  external midi is.
[23:23] <ailo> len-dt: If the external midi is jack, yes
[23:23] <len-dt> What does the "midi raw" setting in jack mean?
[23:29] <ailo> len-dt: Not sure, but both raw and seq are jack midi
[23:29] <len-dt> ailo, I'm just reading up on it now.
[23:32] <len-dt> ailo, it says that the -raw option bypasses the alsa sequencer.
[23:32] <len-dt> It does still use the alsa hardware interface.
[23:42] <len-dt> ailo, It is not very informative ... http://murks.lima-city.de/serendipity/index.php?/archives/7-ALSA-and-JACK-MIDI-explained-by-a-dummy-for-dummies.html
[23:43] <len-dt> It doesn't say what the difference from raw to seq is, but does seem to think seq is better timing wise.
[23:43] <len-dt> I think it means that seq bridges after the alsa seq.
[23:45] <ailo> docs are sketchy everywhere :P
[23:46] <ailo> rebooting
[23:52] <len-dt> ailo, looking at this page: http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/faq/start under :Q: What is the difference between Jack-Midi and Alsa-Midi?
[23:53] <len-dt> There seems to be a better explanation.
[23:53] <ailo> len-dt: Yeah, so there is a difference in timing
[23:54] <len-dt> It looks like setting midi=raw and using a2j to bridge softsynths to jack would be the best.
[23:55] <len-dt> ailo, in Jack for audio, the latency is a known amount and a recorder can compensate.
[23:55] <ailo> Why is that?
[23:55] <ailo> latency is not the problem, while timing is
[23:55] <ailo> It's like having a drum player who sometimes is too early, sometimes too late
[23:56] <len-dt> So midi jitters?
[23:56] <ailo> Not a constant diff, but a one that varies in either direction
[23:56] <ailo> I guess
[23:56] <len-dt> :P
[23:56] <len-dt> If it was constant that would be ok.
[23:56] <ailo> Every single midi message has a random +/- timning issue
[23:57] <ailo> Specifically for external devices. That is at least my personal experience
[23:57] <ailo> I haven't tried all my gear either
[23:57] <len-dt> That makes sense that it would only be external.
[23:59] <ailo> Shit, it worked
[23:59] <ailo> booting from the network


[19:00]  * stgraber looks at his watch, looks like it's MEETING time !
[19:00] <alkisg> \o/
[19:00] <stgraber> highvoltage, mgariepy, alkisg, nixternal, sbalneav, lns !
[19:01] <stgraber> #startmeeting
[19:01] <MootBot> Meeting started at 13:01. The chair is stgraber.
[19:01] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[19:01] <stgraber> Yeah, bot working again !
[19:02] <stgraber> [TOPIC] Spec status update
[19:02] <MootBot> New Topic:  Spec status update
[19:02] <stgraber> unfortunately, highvoltage doesn't seem to be around at the moment, so we'll have to a wait a bit more for a netbook status update
[19:03] <stgraber> on my side, I started some heavy nagging and debugging to fix the DVD builds
[19:03] <stgraber> I changed the seeds yesterday to include mgariepy's menu editor as soon as it's in universe
[19:04] <stgraber> I also changed the langpack list of include all languages (as we used to) but also all the required input methods, translation packages and fonts
[19:04] <stgraber> that way we should have a working edubuntu in all languages, though I found quite a few interesting issues relating to that and I'm doing langpack debugging today ;)
[19:04] <alkisg> :)
[19:04] <alkisg> Any news about that live ltsp thing?
[19:04] <stgraber> We haven't had any change on bug 509970
[19:05] <stgraber> which is required to get the 2 extra free gigs that we'll partially use for LTSP
[19:05] <stgraber> LTSP live itself (as of the script) is on my laptop and will need to be pushed to the build server whenever we'll have enough space for it
[19:06] <stgraber> on my side, it's pretty much it
[19:06] <alkisg> Very good... looks like we've mostly done our part!
[19:06] <stgraber> well, yeah but we have two weeks or so to get our DVD image fixed and the builder updated
[19:06] <stgraber> and ubuntu-cdimage isn't very responsive on LP ...
[19:07] <alkisg> Hrm :(
[19:07] <stgraber> I'll soon start poking people directly rather than the team itself, maybe it'll be more efficient
[19:07] <stgraber> mgariepy:
[19:08] <mgariepy> i have corrected the pacaking problem of edubuntu-menueditor
[19:08] <mgariepy> put (with the help of stgraber) roseta trasnlation for this application
[19:09] <mgariepy> as soon as the binary package is avalaible on lucid universe i'll rebuild it with the corrections.
[19:10] <mgariepy> beside that, i didn't had time to write the user manual. i'll probably start this tonight.
[19:10] <stgraber> current publication status is that edubuntu-menueditor is accepted in the archive as source package (apt-cache showsrc edubuntu-menueditor) but the binary package is still in the queue, should be fixed real soon
[19:10] <mgariepy> any questions ?
[19:11] <stgraber> great, thanks
[19:11] <stgraber> next up is the website though I don't see anyone around ... (that meeting room really feels empty today)
[19:12]  * Lns is here :)
[19:12] <stgraber> Lns: hey
[19:12] <Lns> hiya starcraft
[19:12] <Lns> err stgraber hehe
[19:12] <stgraber> hehe ;)
[19:12] <stgraber> ok, I'm guessing we'll get a better status update on the website next week then ;)
[19:12] <stgraber> [TOPIC] Documentation day
[19:12] <MootBot> New Topic:  Documentation day
[19:13] <stgraber> it was discussed last week that we should define a date for the doc day
[19:13] <stgraber> that'd be after the Feature Freeze
[19:13]  * stgraber looks at the release schedule
[19:13] <stgraber> UI freeze is on the 4th of March
[19:14] <stgraber> the week of the 11th of March seems good
[19:14] <stgraber> as it's after UI freeze and before the first beta
[19:14] <stgraber> and before the Doc string freeze
[19:14] <Lns> sounds good, what exactly is involved in doc day?
[19:15] <stgraber> probably going through the Edubuntu content on help.ubuntu.com, making sure it still applies
[19:15] <stgraber> updating screenshots
[19:15] <stgraber> having a look at the handbook
[19:15] <stgraber> nixternal and sbalneav would be a lot better to explain what that day is about though they don't seem to be around :(
[19:16] <Lns> :(
[19:16] <stgraber> I'd suggest we go with the 9th of March (tuesday)
[19:16] <stgraber> anyone against that date ? ;)
[19:16] <Lns> not me
[19:17] <mgariepy> not me.
[19:17] <stgraber> [AGREED] Documentation day on Tuesday the 9th of March
[19:17] <alkisg> You won't get much negative votes today :)
[19:17] <MootBot> AGREED received:  Documentation day on Tuesday the 9th of March
[19:17] <stgraber> alkisg: makes the meeting so much faster ;)
[19:18] <stgraber> [TOPIC} Other businesses ?
[19:18] <MootBot> New Topic: [TOPIC} Other businesses ?
[19:18] <stgraber> doh, I forgot artwork once again ...
[19:18]  * stgraber adds it to the agenda
[19:18] <Lns> Well, I did my first edu 9.10 install a couple of days ago and have been writing some notes, not sure if it'd fit into a meeting or i should bring it up in #edubuntu
[19:19] <stgraber> Lns: maybe post them to the ML ?
[19:19] <Lns> ok
[19:19] <alkisg> Lns, 9.10? You should be trying 10.04 now :D
[19:19] <Lns> is there an iso?
[19:19] <alkisg> Yup
[19:19] <stgraber> alkisg: well, we'd need a working DVD for that ;) hasn't built for 2 weeks
[19:19] <stgraber> Lns: yeah, there's but it's quite old
[19:19] <Lns> lol.. ok i'll go get it then =)
[19:19] <alkisg> There's still the old dvd
[19:19] <Lns> oh
[19:20]  * Lns will wait for the next build :)
[19:20] <stgraber> for artwork, it was another of Jonathan's items though I guess you all saw the proposed backgrounds from madsrh on the ML ?
[19:21] <stgraber> I'm going to see with Jonathan to update our backgrounds to include these, probably set the one that was the most popular as default and update the icon theme
[19:21] <stgraber> I also asked Jonathan if he could provide us with a screenshot for each proposed icon set
[19:21]  * alkisg liked those backgrounds, but wasn't so excited to vote on making them our default artwork...
[19:21] <Lns> I agree with including the backgrounds, but also agrees with alkisg
[19:22] <Lns> I think we could make it more suitable for all ages
[19:22] <Lns> It's definitely better than a couple years ago
[19:22] <stgraber> so far, for icon theme we have humanity, gartoon and breathe
[19:22] <Lns> stgraber: where can we view those?
[19:23] <stgraber> Lns: yeah, if we do change the background soon, it'll be mostly so our testers actually notice a change ;) These were a first draft and I expect more to come
[19:23] <Lns> mmk
[19:23] <stgraber> and I don't plan on dropping any background from the artwork package yet, we have space so it's not really an issue
[19:23] <Lns> totally. The more the merrier =)
[19:23] <stgraber> Lns: they are all packaged, easiest is to install them and try them out
[19:24] <stgraber> though we have a fresher gartoon in Scott's PPA
[19:24] <Lns> is gartoon the default in 9.10?
[19:24] <stgraber> yeah, gartoon is the one we have for a while
[19:25] <Lns> I think it's a good iconset for primary schools
[19:25] <Lns> but at least in 9.10 it was inconsistent with the rest of the menus
[19:25]  * Lns might be barking about something that's already been fixed in 10.04
[19:26] <alkisg> I'm also not too font of gartoon... I think sbalneav likes it a lot, though
[19:27] <stgraber> we may offer different gnome themes too if we want, one for primary school (using gartoon), one for secondary school, ...
[19:27] <Lns> stgraber: that's a great idea
[19:28] <Lns> the more we focus on separating pri/sec schools (fine grain it) the more people will be able to relate to it
[19:28] <Lns> and therefore feel good about using/installing it
[19:31] <stgraber> sorry, just got quickly disturbed at the office ;)
[19:31] <Lns> hehe, figured
[19:32] <stgraber> [AGREED] Investigate having more than one gnome theme with different icon/background choice
[19:32] <MootBot> AGREED received:  Investigate having more than one gnome theme with different icon/background choice
[19:32] <Lns> I think we could do a lot with theming in Edubuntu. It might be the 'killer feature' we need that ubuntu doesn't have for schools
[19:32] <Lns> we could survey schools as to the favorite subjects/topics in each grade and base a theme around it
[19:33] <Lns> think of an installer option for default themes..that would be kiler
[19:33] <Lns> killer*
[19:33] <stgraber> yeah, it's clearly something we will be able to improve over the next releases, for Lucid we are getting closer and closer to FeatureFreeze. So we won't be able to make everything automatic and shiny
[19:34] <Lns> sure, but the future is always open! =)
[19:38] <stgraber> ok, looks like we're done ;)
[19:38] <stgraber> #endmeeting
[19:38] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 13:38.
[19:39] <dhillon-v10> i guess i am late :)
[19:39] <Lns> hahaha
[19:39] <Lns> yes.
[19:39] <dhillon-v10> Lns: hi there :)
[19:39] <Lns> hey dhillon-v10
[19:40] <dhillon-v10> Lns: I was only a minute late though before the meeting ended
[19:40] <Lns> dhillon-v10: well you can check the logs to catch up =)
[19:41] <Lns> thanks everyone =)
[19:45]  * sbalneav wanders in for the tail end
[19:45] <alkisg> (09:38:24 μμ) MootBot: Meeting finished at 13:38.
[19:45] <alkisg> :)
[19:50] <sbalneav> phht
[19:52] <Lns> heh


[09:35] <knome> morning
[09:35] <ochosi> hi pasi
[09:35] <knome> hey simon
[09:38] <astraljava> Hello Simon and Pasi.
[09:38]  * astraljava sort of wants to see how far we can go with this.
[09:39] <knome> hey janne
[09:40] <astraljava> Hey, how can I make a shortcut in Thunar of a smb:// protocol location?
[09:40] <micahg> hi astraljava
[09:40] <astraljava> Hey micahg!
[09:40] <knome> hey micah :)
[09:40] <knome> astraljava, with gigolo?
[09:41] <micahg> hi knome
[09:41] <ochosi> :)
[09:42] <astraljava> knome: You don't have a geisha?
[09:42] <ochosi> astraljava: i'm not really sure you can within thunar, at least not with the current version/sidebar
[09:44] <astraljava> ochosi: Ok. I'll look into gigolo, then.
[10:39] <astraljava> knome: gigolo seems to work, but the bookmarks don't appear anywhere.
[10:39] <astraljava> knome: Nevermind, there's now an icon in the indicator plugin.
[10:40] <knome> :)
[10:40] <astraljava> Still I'd wish it could be used from Thunar, but that'll do.
[10:40] <astraljava> Thanks!
[10:40] <knome> np
[13:18] <GridCube> knome, ping
[13:19] <knome> GridCube, pong
[13:20] <GridCube> I have sent a mail to the creator of xfce4-kbdleds-plugin, as you requested, asking him to clean his plugin code
[13:20] <GridCube> he answered me telling me that he released a new version a few weeks ago
[13:20] <knome> okay
[13:20] <GridCube> and to tell him what else should he change on it
[13:21] <knome> can you be in contact with mr_pouit?
[13:21] <GridCube> ok
[13:21] <GridCube> mr_pouit: ping
[18:49] <Unit193> astraljava: Did you happen to look in ~/.gvfs?
[19:05] <mr_pouit> o hai
[19:05] <mr_pouit> Grpong
[19:05] <mr_pouit> grmbl
[19:05] <mr_pouit> Gricube left ;]
[20:22] <scott-work> wasn't there talk about using a different pdf viewer or image viewer for precise?
[20:22] <baizon> image viewer
[20:23] <baizon> the new risretto version
[20:47] <scott-work> ah, thanks baizon
[20:47] <baizon> scott-work: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/TechnicalOverview/Alpha1
[21:04] <madnick> ochosi: ping
[21:04] <ochosi> madnick: pong
[21:05] <madnick> I am going to upload the greeter this weekend, I'd like to work with you, over this week to make the draft of the theme close to "finished"
[21:05] <ochosi> ok
[21:05] <ochosi> i'm _extremely_ busy but i'll do my best
[21:05] <madnick> oh okay
[21:05] <madnick> I've sadly been busy aswell the past 2 weeks :(
[21:05] <ochosi> so let's do focussed, concentranted sprints?
[21:05] <madnick> Yes
[21:05] <ochosi> yeah, no problem
[21:06] <madnick> That would be great
[21:07] <madnick> ochosi: do we want an LP page for the theme?
[21:07] <madnick> Because I will have one for the greeter
[21:07] <baizon> got any mockups to the new greeter? :D
[21:07] <madnick> yes, but they are very early stage
[21:07] <ochosi> baizon: yes, even screenshots ;)
[21:07] <baizon> link plz plz
[21:08] <madnick> http://www.madnick.se/~madnick/drafta.png
[21:08] <ochosi> that's a screenshot :)
[21:08] <madnick> more is done, but its on my laptop
[21:09] <madnick> and its almost bed time now
[21:09] <baizon> thank you :-)
[21:09] <ochosi> madnick: ok, so another time then?
[21:09] <madnick> ochosi: yes, any day is fine but today, i think/hope (for me) :P
[21:10] <ochosi> ok, we'll see, i really have a busy week
[21:10] <ochosi> quite a few gigs and helping other people move
[21:10] <ochosi> plus real work
[21:10] <madnick> yeah, if we cant do it this week, its not the end of the world, i will just work on the greeter engine more i suppose
[21:10] <madnick> It just feels a bit wierd to have the greeter but no theem
[21:10] <madnick> theme*
[21:10] <ochosi> mhm
[21:10] <ochosi> true
[21:58] <pleia2> http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/xfce4-weather-plugin works, will this be automatically pulled for pangolin? (I am pretty sure it will be, just want to be sure :))
[22:00] <micahg> pleia2: already in :)
[22:00] <pleia2> awesome, thanks :)
[22:00] <ochosi> that's great news :)
[22:01] <mr_pouit> (and it's waiting for approval for {lucid,maverick,natty,oneiric}-proposed)
[22:01] <ochosi> even better
[22:01] <ochosi> hi mr_pouit
[22:02] <pleia2> oh good
[22:42] <knome> pleia2, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions
[22:42] <knome> pleia2, we need to change the paragraph on that...
[22:43] <pleia2> agreed
[22:43] <pleia2> (also, where do these wiki pages come from?!)
[22:43] <knome> hahah
[22:44] <knome> i'm sure they are created by the jono awesomeness when we sleep ;)
[22:44] <pleia2> kubuntu's one is all fluff, so I suppose I can edit it to include our fluff
[22:45] <pleia2> "Xubuntu is an elegant and easy-to-use operating system. Xubuntu comes with Xfce, which is a stable, light and configurable desktop environment."
[22:45] <knome> hehe
[22:45] <pleia2> TBH we are ending up "light" again since everything else is going all woo 3d compiz omg
[22:46] <knome> "Xubuntu is the best. We don't know why they even suggest any other flavors. Get it now!"
[22:46] <pleia2> lol
[22:46] <Unit193> I'd call Xubuntu mediumweight, and Unity deadweight ;)
[22:47] <pleia2> lol
[22:51] <astraljava> Unit193: What was that .gvfs about?
[22:51] <Unit193> astraljava: Gigolo "mounts" it to there, and thus you can link to folders and such
[22:52] <astraljava> Unit193: Right, okay.
[22:53] <knome> astraljava, i'd use smbfs, but that's just me :)
[22:53] <Unit193> smbfs permit keys?
[22:53] <astraljava> knome: Where would you use it?
[22:53] <knome> astraljava, if i'd want to mount samba shares
[22:53] <knome> astraljava, wasn't that what you are doing?
[22:54] <astraljava> knome: Yes, but how/where would you use it?
[22:54] <knome> Unit193, probably.
[22:54] <GridCube> mr_pouit, ping
[22:54] <Unit193> knome: Err... I read sshfs, and that's what I'm looking for :P
[22:54] <knome> astraljava, smbfs remote_path: /local/path
[22:54] <knome> astraljava, mounts samba share to /local/path
[22:54] <astraljava> knome: Ahh... yeah.
[22:55] <knome> but yeah, i don't remember the syntax from the heart
[22:55] <astraljava> I guess I should do that.
[22:55] <mr_pouit> GridCube: pong
[22:55] <knome> ooh, mr_pouit :)
[22:55] <astraljava> But then I get yelled at when there's no path to those filesystems.
[22:55] <GridCube> :)
[22:56] <knome> astraljava, i have /ssh/mountname
[22:56] <knome> eg. /ssh/knomefi
[22:56] <knome> and i mount to those with sshfs
[22:56] <knome> nobody shouts because /ssh/knomefi always exists
[22:56] <knome> and must exist, if you want to mount there
[22:57] <GridCube> mr_pouit, knome told me to tell you that i got in contact with the guy that made the xfce4-kbdleds-plugin, he told me he cleaned the code a few weeks ago (before you ask me to ask him to clean it) so he now asks me what else should he do, or what should he change on it so it can get into PP
[22:57] <astraljava> Yea, but those filesystems are inside the company network, and I don't, by default, open VPN everytime from outside.
[22:57] <knome> astraljava, so you mean you get shouted because the remote path doesn't exist?
[22:58] <ochosi> what a busy night
[22:58] <knome> does verkkokauppa.com use ubuntu font, or is it set somewhere in ubufox that sites should use that as a title font?
[22:58] <astraljava> knome: I think so, but I might be wrong. And it's probably in some log file buried deep inside /var anyway, so might as well do that.
[22:59] <knome> mmh.
[23:00] <astraljava> knome: astraljava.kapsi.fi/verkkokauppa.com.png
[23:02] <knome> http://temp.knome.fi/other/ff-font.png
[23:02] <astraljava> Does look the same on Chrome.
[23:03] <knome> looks like it's just h1.productName that has that font
[23:04] <knome> hahah, right
[23:04] <knome> yeah
[23:04] <knome> spotted "Ubuntu" on their stylesheet
[23:04] <knome> so it wasn't just me going mad
[23:04] <mr_pouit> GridCube: yeah, apparently there's a new tarball from Dec 1st
[23:04] <astraljava> No, not just. There are other factors.
[23:05] <mr_pouit> looks cleaner
[23:05] <knome> mr_pouit, i think the question is; is it okay for you to upload this, or do you want more changes?
[23:06] <mr_pouit> it looks ok
[23:08] <knome> okay, great
[23:08] <knome> i changed the blueprint status
[23:08] <knome> now it's waiting for your actions, mr_pouit
[23:13] <mr_pouit> I'll try to do it soon
[23:19] <GridCube> :D
[23:19] <GridCube> ok so I will send a mail to the developer saying this to him
[23:19] <GridCube> :)