[12:00] <Get_A_Fix> hello
[12:00] <scifi> for simplicity, i have just created "Downloads", "Movies" and "Music" folders straight into home directory, is that ok/how most people do it in ubuntu?
[12:00] <Zarephath> ltR20: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12569
[12:01] <Warbo> scifi: If you look at the hidden folders in your home then there will be a firefox one (not sure what it's called, maybe something mozilla) It seems like you have backed up this, so if you screw your settings up later then just replace this hidden folder with that folder you just moved. That's how to restore your backup
[12:01] <Warbo> Get_A_Fix: Hello
[12:01] <Get_A_Fix> good day, is there a way to bypass, avoid the log in screen in Breezy
[12:02] <scifi> warbo: yeh part of the update process moves the old firefox into a firefox 1.07 backup folder, i put the ffsettings folder in there
[12:02] <Warbo> scifi: I have a "Files" folder just because I keep my personal files on a seperate partition which I like to share between installations (so I don't want it full of the hidden "dot files" from my home, and I mount the partition on /home/chris/Files
[12:02] <Get_A_Fix> we are setting up an internet cafe and don't want the customers to have to log in, this possible,
[12:03] <Warbo> Get_A_Fix: If you leave your computers on and take away the menus (so they can't log out) then that should work
[12:03] <scifi> warbo: fair enuff, but my way is ok / reasonable ?
[12:04] <moodowama> ello all, having some trouble with ubuntu as follows: have installed xp on an empty partition, which erased grub. now dapper is lost and ubuntu rescue mode (floght5 cd) does NOT see any partitions. suggestions?
[12:04] <Warbo> scifi: Sure it is, It's just that I hoard files and I regularly get swamped with folders full of thousands of files, so this time (my hard drive failed, so now I'm on Dapper) I've decided to try and start as complex as possible so that my folders won't get too full )individually)
[12:05] <scifi> i have heard it mentioned that after installing breezy for the 1st time it is best to update and upgrade repositories, if this is true, how do i go about it?
[12:05] <scifi> warbo: hehe ok
[12:05] <Get_A_Fix> Warbo: thanks, we'll give that a go. So the initial log in cannot be circumvented
[12:05] <Warbo> scifi: You should update and upgrade your packages, but not your repositories, although your will probably want to enable Universe and Multiverse
[12:06] <felipe__>  Hi there, I use ubuntu 5.10 and installed ruby from the repos. Now I'm learning Rails and I need to update to ruby 1.8.4 because I have 1.8.3. Can I do this from the repos?
[12:06] <Warbo> Get_A_Fix: Yes it can. You can choose whether to log a user in straight away (the login screen doesn't appear) or to wait a few seconds
[12:06] <beerockxs> felipe__, maybe from backports, not sure
[12:06] <scifi> Warbo: yeh sorry meant packages, already enabled multi/universe. how do i go about updating packages?
[12:07] <FlannelKing> scifi: through what? synaptic? apt?
[12:07] <mianik> what would be recomended for a slow computer a 233, gnome or kde?
[12:07] <scifi> Flannelking: which evers best way :)
[12:07] <dooglus> neither really
[12:07] <Warbo> Get_A_Fix: I set my dad's system up to skip the login screen, but now I've made it wait 10 seconds to give me a chance to log in if I want (as soon as you press a key the timer goes up to 30 secs)
[12:07] <FlannelKing> mianik: [black|flux] box
[12:07] <dooglus> mianik: use something lighter, I'd suggest fluxbox or xfce4
[12:08] <Warbo> scifi: System>Admin>Synaptic Reload then Mark all upgrades then apply
[12:08] <mianik> FlannelKing: dooglus thanx, what about the new one, um,, whats it called
[12:08] <FlannelKing> scifi: alright, we'll use synaptic, just a few buttons.  Open synaptic, click "reload" then click ... oh, what's the text. it's the one next to it.
[12:08] <dooglus> mianik: you mean xubuntu?
[12:08] <mianik> dooglus: yes
[12:08] <FlannelKing> right, mark all upgrades.  then hit smart upgrade. and then apply.
[12:08] <moodowama> repeating myself: ello all, having some trouble with ubuntu as follows: have installed xp on an empty partition, which erased grub. now dapper is lost and ubuntu rescue mode (floght5 cd) does NOT see any partitions. suggestions? partition tables (?) seem to be all messed up but xp works fine and sees all non linux partitions
[12:08] <dooglus> mianik: that's XFCE4
[12:08] <FlannelKing> mianik: xubuntu is xfce
[12:09] <mianik> dooglus: FlannelKing  ahh ok , thanx :)
[12:09] <Get_A_Fix> Warbo: thanks again - Duh - I don't know why but I didn't even see the Login Screen Setup option before. LOL.. thanks bunches
[12:10] <Warbo> Get_A_Fix: np
[12:10] <scifi> warbo/flannel: did reload and mark all upgrades, but apply is blanked out
[12:10] <Warbo> scifi: Then you are up to date :)
[12:10] <trainstroker> warbo: it worked after some fiddling
[12:10] <scifi> o right lol, thought thered be loads :P
[12:11] <Warbo> trainstroker: Then you can help others who have this problem (I'm not sure of the exact steps to follow, as I haven't started from scratch with a dualboot before)
[12:12] <Kr4t05> !printing
[12:12] <ubotu> methinks printing is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[12:12] <Warbo> scifi: If there are any packages with stars next to them then they are upgradable (i think) but you can check the columns intalled version and newest version
[12:12] <trainstroker> woot another problem
[12:12] <cadkins> i have a question about the new ATI drivers, will they work well enough for gaming purposes with my x800?
[12:13] <trainstroker> when i play a specific avi, i cannot see any video ... i can see some kind of blurry radar thingy
[12:13] <GTX> Is there anyone here which is kind enough to see why my iptables configuration ( http://www.proupload.com/uploads/1145521713.txt ) isn't allowing me to send or receive emails to the internet or localy :\
[12:13] <moodowama> would precreating an empty partition with acronis disk director for example make ubuntu dapper recognize it (already tried resizing partitions to get m recognized but no luck)?
[12:13] <Warbo> trainstroker: That is a visualisation (What A Goom), so it doesn't understand the codec
[12:13] <ricodued> ..Is there some trick to enabling round corners on window borders? Or are screenshots of these themes lying to me?
[12:13] <scifi> warbo: thx they all match latest version. cud u point me to that restrictedformats site i wanna do the flash for mozilla install now
[12:13] <Warbo> trainstroker: Maybe try VLC
[12:14] <scifi> warbo: i will add all these guide sites to bookmarks so not to keep bothering u in future :)
[12:14] <trainstroker> what is vlc? ill try mplayer
[12:14] <Warbo> scifi: Errr. I don't know ubotu's commands
[12:14] <scifi> !restricted
[12:14] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:14] <scifi> :)
[12:15] <ENE|Toxic> Is it necessary with nvidia-glx-legacy drivers for Geforce2 Mx100 cards ? (The legacy-driver is incompatible with my X version)
[12:15] <Warbo> trainstroker: VLC is Video LAN Client. It uses it's own player engine, basically there is no point trying it in loads of players if they all use the Xine engine
[12:15] <felipe__> !backports
[12:15] <ubotu> [backports]  Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[12:16] <scifi> hmmm cant get my updated firefox to pickup links from x-chat ^^
[12:16] <Rhyddin> yep
[12:16] <revartj> somebody edit php???
[12:16] <FlannelKing> scifi: you have to change preferred-browser or, whatever that script is called
[12:16] <Warbo> moodowama: Don't know. (Why isn't that an option?)
[12:16] <spine> how can i change apache permissions to execute VLC with PHP, i tried this with no luck
[12:16] <spine> <?php
[12:16] <spine> system("(/usr/bin/vlc /home/spine/video --intf=http --http-host <IP_ADDRESS>:4358 --fullscreen) >nul");
[12:18] <moodowama> Warbo: thx for confirming
[12:19] <moodowama> btw: of importance for opera users, vlc moz plugin makes opera segfault
[12:19] <cadkins> anyone kno anything about the new ati drivers?
[12:20] <revartj> somebody where i can find the editor php, equal that dreamwever in windows
[12:20] <revartj> ????
[12:20] <Zarephath> I am trying to figure out how to extract pics that are .svgz? My reading claims that it is a gzipped file..however gzip -d filename, or gunip filename says it doesn't understand the extension...inkscape can view it..but I can't save it as .png or .jpg
[12:20] <ltR20> when i do glxgears i get this extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[12:20] <felipe__> beerockxs, No, I added the backport and I don't see any new packages. The odd thing is that in the repos its says that it is ruby 1.8.2 and it is not
[12:20] <moodowama> btw2: also of importance for opera users, the latest builds can use moz mplayer plugin
[12:20] <mjr> *sigh* deciding on hardware is rough; how's the support for via k8t890 chipset for amd64 these days, LAN/audio/etc-wise?
[12:20] <moodowama> too bad i'm stuck in cp :(
[12:21] <beerockxs> felipe__, then you'll have to install it manually, or make a request on the backports forum
[12:21] <ubu_new> hay
[12:21] <Warbo> Zarephath: Maybe rename (or mv) it to .svg.gz? That is a horrible fix, but it may work (and if it does then someone ought to be shot)
[12:21] <moodowama> *xp
[12:21] <jadaz87> hello i was wondering where i can change the default background manually and not through System>>Preferences>>Backgrounds
[12:21] <revartj> help???
[12:21] <ubu_new> I am working with the live cd and updated the screen driver (dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) but now it writes me fatel server error
[12:22] <ubu_new> server is already active for display 0
[12:22] <beerockxs> jadaz87, the file is in /usr/share/backgrounds
[12:22] <Warbo> jadaz87: I think the only command line ways are for the "actual" background, ie. X's root window, not Nautilus's backdrop
[12:22] <beerockxs> replacing that should work, i think, but i don't recommend it
[12:22] <ubu_new> how can I make the x work now?
[12:22] <simonpca> ++
[12:23] <jadaz87> beerockxs WArbo there is not way to manual go in a file and replace the default backgrounds path to another one?
[12:23] <scifi> !mozilla
[12:23] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, scifi
[12:23] <beerockxs> jadaz87, i don't think so, I think the background is saved in the gconf database
[12:23] <Warbo> jadaz87: In that case it would be somewhere in all of the XML in ~/.gnome2
[12:23] <scifi> !firefox
[12:24] <ubu_new> is there any way to turn of the server and make it load again on live cd?
[12:24] <beerockxs> ubu_new, tried switching to a console and doing sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart?
[12:25] <ubu_new> beerockxs, it is live cd - so to do what you said?
[12:25] <arrick> hey has anyone in here used afterstep?
[12:25] <beerockxs> ubu_new, i don't know if it works in a live cd, it's worth a shot, though
[12:25] <jadaz87> beerockxs Warbo i was also wondering where the properties for the gnomepanels are like color ...?
[12:25] <trainstroker> i installed a packet (aviplayer) from synaptic package manager. how do i run it?
[12:25] <graveson> how do i get my keyboard shorcuts to work again . alt-ctrl-f1 ... etc has just stopped working
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[12:25] <arrick> Ban Heta
[12:26] <revartj> how can i programming in php since linux???
[12:26] <moodowama> gparted or qtparted livecd??? have to create an empty partition the ubuntu installer can see. what's the difference between the two?
[12:26] <scifi> flannel: cant find that script anywhere man ^^
[12:26] <Warbo> jadaz87: I think there ARE ways to override the panel's colours, but mainly it's the theme
[12:26] <ltR20> how do i show FPS IN GLXGEARS
[12:26] <arrick> how do these bots keep getting in?
[12:26] <ltR20> glxgears --showfps ??
[12:26] <Mathman> ltR20: run it from the command line.
[12:26] <trainstroker> i installed a packet (aviplayer) from synaptic package manager. how do i run it?
[12:26] <ltR20> what's the command?
[12:26] <ltR20> glxgears ? it doesnt output my fps
[12:26] <Mathman> ltR20: always does when I run it.
[12:27] <ubu_new> beerockxs, thanks!
[12:27] <ltR20> you just put "glxgears"
[12:27] <Mathman> ltR20: yep
[12:27] <jadaz87> WArbo i did it but i am doing a livecd and i need to manual edit the configurationn file for them so it will come up blue and have the panels in certain positions by default
[12:27] <ltR20> ya doesn't display!
[12:27] <Mathman> ltR20: or maybe you need to press space bar once in a while
[12:27] <graveson> what does this error mean : xchat-text: Depends: xchat-common (= 2.4.4-0ubuntu5) but 2.6.0-0ubuntu1~breezy1 is to be installed
[12:27] <Mathman> ltR20: and you're running it from the command line right?  and you're looking there for the output?
[12:28] <Warbo> jadaz87: The /etc/skel files are default configs. That's all I can say really (I have made a few Live CDs before, but KNOPPIX based, none Ubuntu based)
[12:28] <Mathman> ltR20: is that a no?
[12:28] <felipe__> beerockxs, I had breezy installed in another computer and it worked fine....
[12:29] <binky> @Mathman: It means you should look for a newer version of XChat
[12:29] <scifi> anyone know the script to get mozilla to pickup html links in x-chat?
[12:29] <nickrud> jadaz87, you probably are looking for gconftool-2 , it allows manipulation of the gconf database from the command line
[12:29] <beerockxs> felipe__, I have no idea, sorry
[12:29] <beerockxs> scifi, set it as the default browser
[12:29] <Mathman> binky: I have the newest version they make for aqua.
[12:29] <ltR20> no it doesn't work
[12:29] <ltR20> its a bug in breezy
[12:29] <ltR20> i checked
[12:30] <scifi> beerockxs: it is
[12:30] <binky> aqua? mac?
[12:30] <Mathman> binky: yep.
[12:30] <FlannelKing> scifi: yes, you can.  You just have to set it up in xchat
[12:30] <binky> oh sorry, I don't have one :)
[12:30] <Mathman> binky: I'm just messing with ya.  you're confusing me with someone else here.
[12:31] <trainstroker> i installed a packet (aviplayer) from synaptic package manager. how do i run it?
[12:31] <binky> ah
[12:31] <beerockxs> trainstroker, run aviplayer from a console?
[12:31] <Warbo> trainstroker: Right click it in synaptic and go on properties. In installed files look for anything in "/usr/bin"
[12:31] <graveson> i am receiving numerous gpg errors can some please help me get rid of these
[12:32] <beerockxs> graveson, when are you receiving them?
[12:32] <Mathman> get some ecc memory?
[12:32] <MisterN> n8
[12:32] <graveson> beerockxs:when running sudo apt-get update
[12:33] <beerockxs> graveson, do you have custom entries in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[12:33] <duelboot> okay that HAD to be the dummest thing...I'm not a bot and I AM registered!
[12:33] <duelboot> dumbest
[12:33] <trainstroker> thank warbo
[12:33] <arrick> evening duelboot
[12:34] <graveson> beerockxs: i used to have but now i only have the universe and multiverse. i will paste a llink on pastebin for you
[12:34] <bigfoot1> where are the pics in "desktop wallpaper" stored?
[12:34] <beerockxs> bigbootay, the default ones are in /usr/share/backgrounds
[12:34] <scifi> flannelking: i suspect its soemthing i need to change in advanced>url handlers... but i dont know exactly
[12:34] <arrick> haha, not today duelboot
[12:34] <bigbootay> beerockxs, thanks :)
[12:35] <LinuxJones> anybody know how to extract multiple (spanned) rar archives, the -x switch only extracts the first file in the archive ?
[12:35] <arrick> duelboot, I have been on for 48 hours straight working on my server, check this out
[12:35] <duelboot> holy cow arrick
[12:35] <duelboot> think I have your address...lemme check
[12:35] <arrick> this one is different
[12:36] <duelboot> wow arrick, from the homepage, it's changed tremendously...and in a good way
[12:36] <graveson> beerockxs: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12571
[12:36] <arrick> yeah
[12:37] <beerockxs> that looks fine graveson, what are the errors you are getting?
[12:38] <graveson> beerockxs: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12572
[12:38] <Jinkguns> Today marks the first day that I have ever heard "linux" mentioned in a commercial.
[12:39] <Jinkguns> I need to sit here a moment and just take it all in.
[12:39] <binky> @LinuxJones Select the first or last rar in nautilus of the first archive, and then select the second while holding the Ctrl key
[12:39] <Warbo> Jinkguns: Have a look on Google Video and YouTube. I found some good ones by (shock horror) RedHat
[12:39] <beerockxs> graveson, that does not appear to be an error on your side, looks like something's wrong with the ubuntu repository
[12:39] <duelboot> FWIW I FAILED miserably at trying to upgrade to dapper...back to breezy...thank goodness for backups!
[12:40] <duelboot> and no I won't talk about it
[12:40] <Jinkguns> Warbo, cool, but this was on normal tv. ;)
[12:40] <Jinkguns> like, my tv.
[12:41] <Warbo> Jinkguns: What country? (and if UK, what channel)
[12:41] <Jinkguns> I doubt the red hat commercial aired for very long or in more then a few places.
[12:41] <LinuxJones> binky: it says it can't open the archive if I select more than one
[12:41] <Jinkguns> United States, History Channel, it was a commercial for Dell Servers. I was like, that was a weird word, what did he say? Lin-ux? Linux? omg.
[12:41] <Jinkguns> ;)
[12:42] <graveson> beerockxs: ok tnx
[12:42] <Warbo> Jinkguns: Yeah, always with the servers. Noone wants to take on the desktop :(
[12:42] <beerockxs> graveson, np
[12:42] <binky> Whay version of ubuntu?
[12:43] <Jinkguns> Well, I tried doing a ubuntu laptop today, ndiswrapper worked all for 20 minutes before the machine locked up and since I've been unable to even scan a wireless network.
[12:43] <newbie33> I want to ask how to change my MAC permanently
[12:43] <binky> File roller in 2.8 2.10 did that for "usability"
[12:43] <newbie33> I changing it with ifconfig
[12:43] <newbie33> but after reboot it backs
[12:43] <Mortuis> I have a command line question.  I want to record the results of "cat filename | grep cats" into a file.  How do I do this?
[12:43] <Warbo> Jinkguns: Why do people use windoze drivers with ndiswrapper and expect stability? :)
[12:44] <duelboot> Warbo, cuz it's possible!
[12:44] <rukuartic> Warbo: Cuz thats the only way they can
[12:44] <Warbo> Mortuis: Add > file at the end
[12:44] <Mortuis> Warbo: Thank you
[12:44] <Jinkguns> Well, I really didn't get a choice, it's a old laptop, compaq, been through iraq sandstorms and a 3 alarm fire. Broadcom wireless. :/
[12:44] <duelboot> Warbo, I haven't had any issues with windows driver and ndiswrapper
[12:44] <rukuartic> neither have I
[12:45] <trainstroker> does anyone have a zen vision?
[12:45] <Jinkguns> The problem is, it works for awhile, then suddenly it won't detect my network anymore
[12:45] <Warbo> duelboot: Was sort of a joke, "Why isn't Linux ready for the desktop?" "Because the Windows drivers crash it"
[12:46] <duelboot> Warbo, not funny...hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[12:46] <binky> Does anyone here have a Minolta DiMage camera working in breezy or dapper WITH a memory card inserted?  Pmount crashes but in Mandriva and debian stable it works just fine.
[12:46] <Jinkguns> Have any of you seen this new linux seller? http://system76.com/
[12:46] <Jinkguns> They look good.
[12:46] <arrick> how do I force umount?
[12:46] <Jinkguns> Very good.
[12:46] <binky> Driving me nutty
[12:46] <rukuartic> umount -f arrick?
[12:46] <arrick> thanks
[12:46] <Warbo> arrick: add -l
[12:46] <rukuartic> arrick: it was a guess
[12:47] <duelboot> Jinkguns, no and it's too expensive anyway
[12:47] <newbie33> hey... please tell how to change MAC adress permanent
[12:47] <rukuartic> arrick: Oh wait, I was right. XD
[12:47] <Jinkguns> You can't change your mac address, newbie.
[12:47] <Jinkguns> It's burned into the card.
[12:47] <duelboot> Jinkguns, yes you can!  MAC clone
[12:47] <newbie33> Jinkguns, I can
[12:47] <Jinkguns> Do you mean your I.P. Address?
[12:47] <cafuego> Jinkguns: Well, that wireless at least should work fine (natively) on the new Dapper.
[12:47] <Jinkguns> Well, Mac Clone sure. :/
[12:47] <newbie33> with ifconfig
[12:47] <newbie33> but how to do it permanent
[12:47] <Jinkguns> really cafuego?
[12:48] <ltR20> how do i edit my network config
[12:48] <cafuego> Jinkguns: Yep
[12:48] <cafuego> !bcm43xx
[12:48] <Jinkguns> Dear god YAY
[12:48] <ubotu> To use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.
[12:48] <ltR20> i want to change my ip address to *.101
[12:48] <ltR20> !tell ltR20 about network
[12:48] <cafuego> Jinkguns: The reverse engineering worked and there is now a mainly useable free driver (it does require firmware)
[12:48] <beerockxs> ltR20: system - system configuration - network
[12:49] <arrick> what is the force mount?
[12:49] <binky> Are there any kind pmount guru's?
[12:49] <superdump> hello
[12:49] <ltR20> beerrocxs
[12:49] <duelboot> binky, I'm a pmount guru...now just what is a pmount?  lol
[12:49] <ltR20> beerockxs, when i enter the new information the OK button is greyed out
[12:50] <superdump> i have a 32-bit chroot set up but when i try to apt-get realplayer it complains about an xlibs dependency being missing
[12:50] <Warbo> arrick: If I need to unmount something being accessed (well, only if the system THINKS it's being accessed) I use the "umount -l directory" (that's a lowercase L)
[12:50] <duelboot> jk binky don't know anything about it
[12:50] <arrick> Warbo, now I am trying to remount it
[12:50] <binky> pmount/hal automount thingamajigy
[12:50] <beerockxs> ltR20: are you sure you are entering the ip address correctly?
[12:50] <MrProper__> does anyone else think that the latest art work for dapper, is umm....well too kde'ish
[12:50] <superdump> i'm using dapper with main, restricted, universe and multiverse in my sources list
[12:50] <Mortuis> Is there a linux equivalent to windows notepad?
[12:50] <Warbo> arrick: Well, I don't know, sorry
[12:50] <spariticus_rex> Mortuis: gedit
[12:50] <Warbo> Mortuis: Gedit
[12:50] <cafuego> Mortuis: No, Linux has no text editor that are 8that* crap.
[12:51] <superdump> did the xlibs dependency get renamed for xorg 7 or something?
[12:51] <Mortuis> spariticus_rex: Thanks
[12:51] <beerockxs> ltR20: you can also directly edit /etc/network/interfaces
[12:51] <Mortuis> cafuego: It's what I'm used to man, gotta start somewhere. ;-)
[12:51] <Warbo> cafuego: I know someone who found a way of comtrolling a computer with 1 line of text opened in Notepad :)
[12:51] <newbie33> beerockxs, what to edit
[12:51] <cafuego> Mortuis: There are about 1500 other less crap text editors to pick from, though ;-)
[12:51] <newbie33> exactly
[12:51] <beerockxs> newbie33: huh?
[12:52] <arrick> hey whats wrong with this command? sudo mount -t ext3 /home/arrick/etc1
[12:52] <newbie33> I need to change mac too
[12:52] <scifi> !firefox
[12:52] <cafuego> arrick: You forgot the physical device.
[12:52] <spariticus_rex> arrick: you need the /dev point that you're mounting from
[12:52] <arrick> thanks
[12:52] <Warbo> arrick: If you give a type option, do you need to specify everything (it no longer reads fstab)?
[12:52] <rukuartic> newbie33: Why? Are you trying to be l33t and break into someone's network?
[12:52] <arrick> your rigth forgot is the word
[12:52] <newbie33> no
[12:52] <newbie33> I cant have internet
[12:53] <newbie33> I have two pc
[12:53] <newbie33> and internet may work only in one mac
[12:53] <newbie33> so if I want internet on other pc i need to set the same mac
[12:54] <spariticus_rex> newbie33: sounds pretty odd. What kind of setup do you have?
[12:54] <trainstroker> Is there a way i can auto execute a scipt of sorts.... everytime i restart my computer i lose permission to my ntfs partition. i have to unmount and remout with uid option.
[12:54] <cafuego> trainstroker: Add the uid/gid options in /etc/fstab
[12:54] <trainstroker> how
[12:55] <trainstroker> its just output isnt it?
[12:55] <newbie33> spariticus_rex, dont know
[12:55] <rukuartic> trainstroker: add something to .bashrc is a cheap easy way
[12:55] <Warbo> trainstroker: You haven't sorted out fstab properly then. But in any case startup scripts are in /etc/init.d and run update-rc.d (I think)
[12:55] <superdump> also, in my fstab i have "/dev/sdb1       /storage        ext2    user,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=0013               0       0"
[12:55] <ENE|Toxic> So I installed Ubuntu-server with xdm/fluxbox. System tries to start xdm at init phase, but the screen just flickers and returns, giving me only the opportunity to login to console, why's that ?
[12:56] <superdump> trying to mount without a type definition tells me that the type is invalid or the superblock is invalid
[12:56] <cafuego> superdump: uid and gid have no effect on ext2
[12:56] <superdump> ok
[12:56] <cafuego> superdump: Mind you, it's not ext2 if you get that message. WHat is suppsoed to be on it?
[12:56] <superdump> but sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/sdb1 /storage works fine
[12:56] <Jinkguns> When is dapper coming out. ;)
[12:56] <spariticus_rex> ENE|Toxic: try running "startx" in the terminal and see what errors it puts out.
[12:56] <superdump> it's definitely ext2
[12:56] <Warbo> trainstroker: /etc/fstab is a config file, in plain text. Edit it with a n editor like Gedit or nano (as super user) to change it's options. I don;t know what your "It's just output" means
[12:57] <spariticus_rex> Jinkguns: Dapper is scheduled for June.
[12:57] <ENE|Toxic> spariticus_rex: startx works, and it opens a terminal from which I can launch fluxbox
[12:57] <superdump> and there's accessible data on it :)
[12:57] <Mortuis> How do I convert a text file created in windows to something gedit can read?
[12:57] <superdump> dos2unix?
[12:57] <spariticus_rex> ENE|Toxic: so your problem is getting xdm to work?
[12:57] <Warbo> Mortuis: Text is the most basic standard isn't it? Have m$ even screwed that up?
[12:57] <Mortuis> Warbo: "gedit was not able to automatically detect the character coding. Please, check that you are not trying to open a binary file and try again selecting a character coding in the 'Open File...' (or 'Open Location') dialog."
[12:57] <superdump> Warbo: line endings
[12:58] <ENE|Toxic> spariticus_rex: yep pretty much
[12:58] <Warbo> superdump: Isn't that just word docs?
[12:58] <binky> pmount output:ID=="pci0000:00"
[12:58] <binky>     DRIVER=="unknown"
[12:58] <binky>     Uh, if that helps anyone
[12:58] <spariticus_rex> ENE|Toxic: If you try "sudo xdm" from terminal, is there any error message?
[12:58] <mcphail> That error has nothing to do with line endings
[12:58] <trainstroker> warbo: i found the file (i thought fstab was a directory) and how do i implement the permissions
[12:58] <arrick> hey why did ubugtu send me to #ubuntu-unregged?
[12:59] <superdump> Warbo: any windows/dos doc unless you have some text editor that can output to unix style
[12:59] <ENE|Toxic> spariticus_rex: Nothing, the screen flickers and return.
[12:59] <Warbo> trainstroker: Look for the line with your device in it. Now add in the options column a comma then uid=yourusername
[12:59] <Stormx2> I made some wallpapers if any of you guys are interested - http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=38122
[12:59] <spariticus_rex> ENE|Toxic: No errors... Is there some sort of /var/log/xdm.log file?
[12:59] <Stormx2> owww pins and needles
[01:00] <superdump> cafuego: any suggestions? is there any way i can probe the partition for useful information?
[01:00] <ENE|Toxic> spariticus_rex: there's X.org.0.log
[01:00] <rukuartic> Stormx2: Once I fell asleep on my arm... when I woke up I couldn't move my arm
[01:00] <Mortuis> Warbo: The file contents display just fine when I cat the file.   I'm not sure what the matter is then.
[01:00] <binky> thanks anyway everyone
[01:01] <Stormx2> Its a kind of robot.
[01:01] <Stormx2> That plays tetris
[01:01] <Stormx2> o.O
[01:01] <Stormx2> I'll be quiet now
[01:01] <Stormx2> How are you all this fine evening anyway?
[01:01] <Stormx2> No major hickups in dapper?
[01:01] <trainstroker> whats that applet called that will add "open with sudo/root" into the right click menu?
[01:01] <Warbo> Stormx2: Fine apart from the bloody cats yelling outside
[01:01] <ENE|Toxic> spariticus_rex: Ok thanks anyway. By the way, since I never did get xdm to run, what's it suppose to show me anyway, a login-screen similar to gdm, or just a simple interface with a terminal like startx ?
[01:02] <superdump> realplayer doesn't have satiated dependencies in my 32-bit chroot, is that a hiccup?
[01:02] <superdump> ;)
[01:02] <Warbo> trainstroker: It's added by automatix, that's all I know (don't use automatix)
[01:02] <Stormx2> !automatrix
[01:02] <ubotu> Stormx2: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:02] <spariticus_rex> ENE|Toxic: It's like gdm but a lot simpler. You simply type in your username and password and it opens your default window manager.
[01:02] <Matthewv> !automatix
[01:02] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[01:02] <Stormx2> ubotu, automatrix is evil, you should use easyubuntu or easybreezy
[01:02] <ubotu> okay, Stormx2
[01:02] <AskHL> !easyubuntu
[01:02] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[01:02] <Stormx2> Oh wait
[01:02] <Stormx2> I mispelt
[01:02] <Stormx2> Sorry
[01:02] <ENE|Toxic> spariticus_rex: sounds fine enough, but that it doesn't work.  Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, trainstroker
[01:03] <Warbo> Stormx2: That's the next Matrix game, with AI that plays itself
[01:03] <DBO> !CoC
[01:03] <ubu_new> I asked before but I still have the same problem - after installation and not founding the screen (not live cd) I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it write that package not installed
[01:03] <ubotu> I heard coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[01:04] <Stormx2> Warbo: lol
[01:04] <Stormx2> *sigh*
[01:04] <Stormx2> I should get unreal tournament working on this machine
[01:04] <Stormx2> or learn C
[01:04] <Stormx2> or something
[01:04] <BlueSwirl> learn c
[01:04] <spariticus_rex> Stormx2: learn C and write some cool apps for us all! ;-)
[01:04] <Stormx2> The problem with ubuntu is I don't spend most of my time yelling "DAMN YOU WINDOWS STOP CRASHING!"
[01:04] <ubu_new> what to do in order to find the screen?
[01:04] <BlueSwirl> then portugese
[01:04] <Warbo> Stormx2:  I should finish the half-drawn icon that's witing in Inkscape on my other desktop
[01:05] <Stormx2> haha
[01:05] <BlueSwirl> Stormx2: lol
[01:05] <Stormx2> I already wrote some cool scripts
[01:05] <Stormx2> One is the equivilent of PHP's ucwords
[01:05] <Warbo> Stormx2: That's why I'm in this chat, because I don't have anything to fix on my PC
[01:05] <arrick> My wife tells me to switch all the computers to Ubuntu, so my temper isnt always in the red zone, more peaceful around the house that way
[01:05] <arrick> haha
[01:05] <trainstroker> how do i open a file in sudo in the file browser
[01:05] <rukuartic> Hmm question here... why is it that if I move my wine application to another desktop or minimize it, CPU usage jumps up by 20%?
[01:05] <trainstroker> like open a text file under root
[01:05] <arrick> nano
[01:05] <spariticus_rex> Stormx2: great idea, why don't you rewrite UT2K4 for Linux?
[01:05] <arrick> or gedit
[01:05] <Stormx2> trainstroker: Double Click?
[01:06] <Warbo> trainstroker: Do it from a terminal with "sudo" beforehand
[01:06] <trainstroker> how do i edit the fstab then?
[01:06] <Stormx2> trainstroker: Yeah. or if you don't like terminal you could use alt+f2
[01:06] <arrick> Stormx2, you ave to doubleclick? it only takes me one
[01:06] <Stormx2> trainstroker: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[01:06] <Stormx2> arrick: 1 selects it for me, 2 opens it.
[01:06] <arrick> trainstroker, or sudo nano /etc/fstab
[01:06] <arrick> haha
[01:07] <Stormx2> do any of you actually like the default ubuntu wallpaper?
[01:07] <arrick> I hate poo brown
[01:07] <Stormx2> Yeah
[01:07] <Dekkard> the ubuntudapper beta wallpaper?
[01:07] <Stormx2> A lot of people think that.
[01:07] <Stormx2> Dekkard: Well from the article I saw posted on slashdot, its the same as the breezy wallpaper
[01:07] <mcphail> i like the brown. It's different.
[01:07] <Dekkard> its better than the crane
[01:07] <Warbo> Stormx2: Not really, although it doesn't get on my nerves like the XP one (too bright). I don't think it fits in with the shiny Dapper human theme either
[01:07] <ubu_new> anybody can help me with my screen problem?
[01:08] <rukuartic> ubu_new: screen the program?
[01:08] <ubu_new> that the screen is not supported
[01:08] <Dekkard> ok.. there is one now.. it says..Ubuntu dapper beta
[01:08] <rukuartic> ubu_new: So screen hardware? AKA: Monitor?
[01:08] <Dekkard> but othere than that the wallpaper group sucks..thats why i use gnomeart
[01:08] <Stormx2> Yeah but I mean... brown? Is it one of these like, secret conspiracies.   DarkAlloy's backgrounds are the best
[01:10] <crimsun> same goes for any default in Ubuntu.
[01:10] <rukuartic> Stormx2: Meh... startup is fine...
[01:10] <arrick> and to top it all off, I am 20 miles from the server
[01:10] <rukuartic> But the wallpaper does look dumb
[01:10] <rukuartic> And I'm not usually one to complain.
[01:10] <rukuartic> but hey, thats why you can pick and choose
[01:10] <Dekkard> Warbo:  not according to my bi.. i mean wife
[01:10] <trainstroker> anyone have an mtp device setup?
[01:10] <ubu_new> rukuartic, sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop is not working as well
[01:10] <Stormx2> Its like you get that noise when your speakers are half plugged in. And then they pulsed the volume in and out and made a monkey play a keyboard in the top octave
[01:10] <rukuartic> or just use windows 800x600 default wallpaper if you must
[01:10] <rukuartic> ubu_new: What are you doing this from, console?
[01:11] <Stormx2> I thought windows doesn't have a default wallpaper?
[01:11] <mcphail> Does anyone remember the package which gave you new naked ubuntu people on your desktop every month?
[01:11] <rukuartic> From what it comes with at boot Stormx2
[01:11] <ubu_new> rukuartic, yes I just finished the installtion
[01:11] <BlueSwirl> surely it's that rolling green grass thing on windows?
[01:11] <Stormx2> It just starts off in that sea-water-with-too-much-polution colour
[01:11] <arrick> Stormx2, yeah it has rolling hills default
[01:11] <ubu_new> and now I am on the console
[01:11] <BlueSwirl> i use this on my ubuntu machine: http://art.ubuntu.com/backgrounds/ubuntu/94
[01:11] <rukuartic> ubu_new: Try ctrl+alt+f7... whats it give you?
[01:11] <Matthewv> mcphail, don't remember it, but that was ubuntu-calendar
[01:11] <rukuartic> ubu_new: Because it should be installed by default
[01:11] <Stormx2> arrick: XP?
[01:11] <arrick> yep
[01:11] <Stormx2> Ah
[01:11] <akcom> How would I go about browsing/downloading files from my bluetooth enabled phone if I already have the gnome-bluetooth package installed? (more interested in browsing the files on the phone)
[01:11] <Stormx2> I've never installed XP
[01:11] <ubu_new> rukuartic, nothing
[01:11] <Stormx2> I'm practicly a hacker already
[01:12] <rukuartic> ubu_new: how old is your computer?
[01:12] <arrick> Stormx2, about like installing ubuntu default
[01:12] <ubu_new> rukuartic, but I can still write in the console
[01:12] <ubu_new> not old
[01:12] <ubu_new> not so old
[01:12] <ubu_new> not sure
[01:12] <rukuartic> ubu_new: Does it have a graphics card?
[01:12] <ubu_new> yes
[01:12] <Apostle^> akcom: you need the obex client
[01:12] <ubu_new> the live cd worked
[01:12] <rukuartic> ubu_new: Integrated?
[01:12] <ubu_new> rukuartic, yes
[01:13] <rukuartic> Oh... thats odd. What'd you do, a server install or something?
[01:13] <rukuartic> ubu_new: Whats the problem when you go sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[01:13] <ubu_new> rukuartic, the live cd worked after I did sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[01:13] <Apostle^> akcom: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75978&highlight=plantronics+m2500
[01:13] <akcom> thank you
[01:14] <ubu_new> rukuartic, it writes few lines but the last line is e: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually....
[01:14] <spariticus_rex> What's with these wiered "Notices" about spamming?
[01:14] <Apostle^> spariticus_rex: they are what they say they are.
[01:14] <ubu_new> rukuartic, seems like bad news :(
[01:14] <Stormx2> I mean I really have propriety software...  Problem is, as free as ubuntu is, it has an awesome-cool millionare from space funding it. But what if we did fix bug #1? Microsoft lose their market share... It just makes things worse for smaller companies who say, want to make a game. It would be unholy for us to use one of these games, but progr
[01:14] <Stormx2> ammers need money, so you need to have a lot of funding to even get it off the ground.
[01:15] <spariticus_rex> Apostle^: but they don't make sense
[01:15] <Apostle^> what is an eft
[01:15] <ubu_new> rukuartic, so to run dpkg manually?
[01:15] <mcphail> Does anyone know how to add new locations to the "Places" menu in Breezy?
[01:15] <Stormx2> Real open-source games can't make a profit, and if they can't design for an audience which accepts propriety software, then where's the money? :P
[01:16] <Stormx2> No one is listening  Oh well. Ill go learn C heh
[01:16] <Apostle^> ahh a newt
[01:16] <BlueSwirl> let us know how that goes
[01:16] <FlannelKing> Stormx2: OS games can make money
[01:16] <dj-fu> How do you do those wongtong smiley faces
[01:16] <Apostle^> so a badger, a drake and a newt
[01:16] <Apostle^> WONGTONG
[01:16] <Apostle^> lmfao
[01:16] <rukuartic> ubu_new: Sure... I suppose. Thats a really weird problem...
[01:16] <Stormx2> FlannelKing: How?
[01:16] <FlannelKing> Stormx2: not from support contracts, but there are other ways.
[01:16] <akonkwa> How can I copy files from a remote server using a terminal based ssh, to a directory on my computer?
[01:16] <rukuartic> And whats "Hoary" mean?
[01:16] <Apostle^> hedgehog
[01:16] <dj-fu> hoary is like stink
[01:16] <ubu_new> rukuartic, can you please tell me what to write?
[01:16] <Trent> What is the ubuntu online apt repository?
[01:16] <Stormx2> like a whore
[01:16] <Warbo> Stormx2: There are relatively few new games these days anyway. It is not the programmers who do most of the work, it is the graphics artists who rebrand the same engines over and over
[01:16] <mcphail> akonkwa: sftp
[01:16] <rukuartic> akonkwa: scp or putty-scp
[01:17] <FlannelKing> Stormx2: donations, um, selling in-game items or whatever, depends on the genre, there are plenty of clever ways
[01:17] <dj-fu> Stormx2: how do you do that japanese smiley face
[01:17] <BlueSwirl> hoary (noun); the act of being hoar like
[01:17] <rukuartic> ubu_new: Once you find the package, should be "dpkg -i package-name.deb
[01:17] <Stormx2> dj-fu: Its a replace thing. it relaced :-) except without the -
[01:17] <spariticus_rex> :)
[01:17] <dj-fu> oh, in xchat?
[01:17] <arrick> yeah Stormx2 how o you do that?
[01:17] <akonkwa> mcphail, rukuartic , could you be more specific?
[01:17] <ubu_new> rukuartic, I am new here and have no idea how to find the package
[01:17] <Stormx2> dj-fu: Yeah
[01:17] <dj-fu> ah. do. using IRSSI
[01:18] <Trent> What is the ubuntu online apt binaries?
[01:18] <Trent> are*
[01:18] <rukuartic> ubu_new: Should be on the CD... you could try "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" or even "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[01:18] <Trent> Where** >.<
[01:18] <facugaich> Stormx2, may I ask what are your projects? I joined this conversation too late
[01:18] <mcphail> sftp user@host:directory/
[01:18] <rukuartic> Trent: Repositories?
[01:18] <Trent> Yes.
[01:18] <Stormx2> facugaich: What do you mean?
[01:18] <Stormx2> facugaich: I work on some websites o.O when i feel like it
[01:18] <Trent> That's what I had said first, but I thought I said sometwhing wrong.
[01:18] <dj-fu> Stormx2, which plugin is it?
[01:18] <facugaich> Stormx2, I guessed you wanted to make a game
[01:19] <facugaich> I was wrong lol
[01:19] <BlueSwirl> right, i'm off to try the xubuntu install beta
[01:19] <Xardas> good night
[01:19] <Stormx2> facugaich: Well I used to make games
[01:19] <Stormx2> Not very good ones, very retro
[01:19] <facugaich> stromx2, yeah, mine too
[01:19] <Stormx2> Pong, Worms, etc.
[01:19] <Warbo> Stormx2: I'm in favor of selling 1 game (say Doom3) then every rip-off skin for it should be available as an "add on" as well as stand alone. Then you don't buy the same stuff you already have, just the extras that new games offer. This probably wouldn't work on consoles though, and that is where the real money is
[01:20] <Stormx2> And to be honest xbox is already cracked. I've got linux on my xbox
[01:20] <Stormx2> its only a matter of time before the 360's firmware is figured out.
[01:20] <Stormx2> Still, I'm saving for a rev <3<3<3
[01:21] <Warbo> Stormx2: The only software I have payed for on my machine is Gish, and that didn't work for ages, then I had registration issues, then I got it working. I played it (VERY good) but now it doesn't work any more
[01:21] <Trent> rukuartic, Do you know the online repositories?
[01:21] <Stormx2> Well
[01:21] <Stormx2> Microsoft gave my dad a Windows 2000 BETA cd
[01:21] <Warbo> Stromx2: Now the moral is: You need a standard system for games (consoles)
[01:21] <rukuartic> !repositories
[01:21] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:22] <mcphail> Warbo: most of the open source games using the various iterations of the Quake engine haven't been as good as the commercial offerings
[01:22] <axemen|Thomas> Any helpful souls out there (yes i am a noob) ?
[01:22] <Stormx2> The few things I think windows beats linux at is 1) Graphics Applications (I *HATE* The Gimp) and 2) Soldat
[01:22] <spariticus_rex> axemen|Thomas: what's your problem?
[01:23] <dj-fu> gimp rocks
[01:23] <dj-fu> just takes a little gettin used to
[01:23] <FlannelKing> Stormx2: it's only a matter of critical mass, before adobe releases PS for linux
[01:23] <axemen|Thomas> spariticus_rex: well, installed ubuntu today, and i tried to install Wine. I am almost 100% sure ive set the repositorys correct, but still apt-get install wine will not work
[01:23] <dj-fu> and the keyboard shortcuts are different
[01:23] <Phlosten> Stormx2, do you hate the gimp because it cant do things, or because you don't know how to do things with it
[01:23] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: "sudo apt-cache search wine" find the package you want "sudo apt-get install packagename"
[01:23] <Warbo> mcphial: I agree that many new games are cool and add new features, but if they all use the same engine then you shouldn't have to pay for it over and over. Also, open-source games are ok for working on Linux systems (if quite bad generally) but you PAY for a linux game and it doesn't bloody work, because the distro maker can't tweak it
[01:23] <Phlosten> i love the gimp
[01:23] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: The package name isn't "wine"
[01:23] <Stormx2> I mean I'm a web designer... its just so... utterly useless... and unnatural... I mean its got enough effects its just the tools... it lacks the simplicity of Paint Shop Pro 7 and the professionalism of Photoshop 7
[01:23] <arrick> hey Stormx2 check out http://www.wikixbox360.com/page/Modding+FAQ?gclid=CMOXsI6PuoQCFRuKIgodZSLE_Q
[01:23] <Phlosten> its all i use now
[01:23] <facugaich> I hate it because the fact there's no polygon tool
[01:23] <eggzeck> I can do lots with Gimp, and knowing PS helps
[01:24] <jcole> are there any plans to update dri/drm in ubuntu dapper? it's more than 2 years old
[01:24] <akcom> Apostle^, using konqueror and kbluetoothd did not work for me, where can I get the obex client?
[01:24] <Stormx2> I've only softmodded my xbox. Set me back about 15 but it was worth it. Free games!! XD
[01:24] <tritium> Stormx2: I hope you're not talking about warez in this channel...
[01:25] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: could it be "xwine - graphical user interface for the WINE emulator
[01:25] <axemen|Thomas> " ?
[01:25] <Stormx2> tritium: Of course not.
[01:25] <rukuartic> Stormx2: Geez psp is awful
[01:25] <Warbo> Stormx2: I hate PSP so much. I haven't used PhotoShop in years so I can't comment
[01:25] <jcole> $ dmesg | grep drm | grep minor
[01:25] <jcole> [4294689.335000]  [drm]  Initialized i915 1.1.0 20040405 on minor 0:
[01:25] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Thats one of them
[01:25] <jcole> 2004!
[01:25] <Roger_The_Bum_> I need a bit of help
[01:25] <tritium> Good.  Please take the gaming discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:25] <FlannelKing> Roger_The_Bum_: just ask
[01:25] <Roger_The_Bum_> I need root access
[01:26] <Roger_The_Bum_> or at least know how
[01:26] <FlannelKing> !tell Roger_The_Bum_ about root
[01:26] <dj-smilee> is i2o support dodgy in linux full stop?
[01:26] <Roger_The_Bum_> in dapper flight 5
[01:26] <bimberi> Roger_The_Bum_: 'sudo -i' in a terminal
[01:26] <Roger_The_Bum_> and sudo su isn't working for me
[01:26] <Stormx2> I really hated Paint Shop Pro 8... They lost it on that one. But I do like PSP 7. it feels very lightweight and effortless to be, very intuitive. It lacks a lot of the features of photoshop but I can have 100 images open in PSP and have no slowdowns...
[01:26] <Roger_The_Bum_> -i?
[01:26] <mcphail> Does anyone know how to change the locations in the "Places" menu?
[01:26] <Warbo> Roger_The_Bum_: What do you want to do as root? sudo -i or sudo -s -H
[01:26] <Stormx2> Oh sorry
[01:26] <bimberi> Roger_The_Bum_: gets you a root shell
[01:26] <Stormx2> I'll got to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:26] <Phlosten> PSP is excellent for moderate graphics users
[01:27] <Roger_The_Bum_> so does sudo su
[01:27] <Stormx2> Which is basicly me.
[01:27] <Roger_The_Bum_> what does -i do specifically
[01:27] <Roger_The_Bum_> any difference?
[01:27] <rukuartic> well I heard sudo -i is better than sudo su
[01:27] <Roger_The_Bum_> ok
[01:27] <Warbo> Stormx2: PSP 5 was the best, but I am now addicted to the ease of Layers and translucency in GIMP
[01:27] <Roger_The_Bum_> I'll see
[01:27] <rukuartic> I think sudo su changes some system variables
[01:27] <bimberi> Roger_The_Bum_: -i (simulate initial login) option runs the shell specified in the passwd(5) entry of the user that the command is being run as.
[01:27] <jcole> is anyone else here running dapper? what year is your dri/drm? run "dmesg | grep drm | grep minor"
[01:28] <Roger_The_Bum_> I'm running this in vmware
[01:28] <Roger_The_Bum_> I'm trying to install vmware tools
[01:28] <tritium> jcole: please ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:28] <Stormx2> Maybe I'm just not used to the gimp. But in webdesign, a lot of stuff is precision. Like, pixel-by-pixel cropping and stuff... and i just down like the gimp for it. It feels like I have a gun on a long pole, and I'm trying to aim for a target 200 yards away. I can do it, it will just take me a while
[01:29] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: well, i basically just find 4 packages related to wine, xwine, libwine-dev, libwine and wine-doc
[01:29] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Well then try "sudo apt-get install wine"
[01:29] <akonkwa> How do I start X  from a remote server
[01:29] <rukuartic> akonkwa: startx?
[01:29] <Jinkguns> I can't wait for Dapper. ;>
[01:29] <rukuartic> Neither can I! :P
[01:29] <Stormx2> Jinkguns: And XGL!
[01:29] <Warbo> Stormx2: I do everything with PNGs and I despise GIFs. However, I think of PSP whenever I think of GIFs, so it must be OK for web design
[01:30] <rukuartic> Bah... XGL is just gonna be windows vista
[01:30] <Roger_The_Bum_> still not working
[01:30] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: thats what ive been trying, but then i get that the package is obsoloete, not available, reffered from another pacakge etc etc.
[01:30] <akcom> Does anyone know if I need some aditional package to make konqueror work with sdp:// & bluetooth:/ requests?
[01:30] <rukuartic> Gif can be ok if you get your pallats right
[01:30] <Roger_The_Bum_> Unable to copy the source file ./installer/services.sh to the destination file
[01:30] <akonkwa> rukuartic,  I get the error server already running!! but I don't see any windows :-s
[01:30] <Roger_The_Bum_> /etc/init.d/vmware-tools.
[01:30] <FlannelKing> axemen|Thomas: you might need to reload your packages
[01:30] <Roger_The_Bum_> hang on a sec
[01:30] <axemen|Thomas> FlannelKing: done that, like a million times :)
[01:30] <Stormx2> Warbo: I'm JPG all the way
[01:30] <trainstroker> anyone get an mtp device working with linux. im trying to get my Zen Vision :M working
[01:30] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Well if its obsolete... mmm... just use it anyways. Unless you wanna install it yourself...
[01:30] <rukuartic> trainstroker: moto4lin?
[01:30] <Warbo> rukuartic: I just despise the idea of "ANIMATION!" and it's 2 frames. Grrrr...
[01:30] <akcom> I keep on getting a "malformed URL error"
[01:30] <Stormx2> Warbo: I use gifs for animation, and pngs for higher-quality large graphics
[01:31] <rukuartic> Warbo: Bah...
[01:31] <Jinkguns> XGL?
[01:31] <Stormx2> XGL is so cool
[01:31] <Stormx2> !xgl
[01:31] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper.
[01:32] <stpere> I've been struggling with the linux novell client for 2 days at work :-)
[01:32] <Stormx2> yeah but xgl is like women for your average nerd
[01:32] <stpere> I wonder if I could get it to work on ubuntu..
[01:32] <Stormx2> Ooh dapper got slashdotted
[01:32] <Stormx2> 3rd time this week I think
[01:33] <Stormx2> Eat that gentoo
[01:33] <Warbo> Stormx2: Put a white background and draw a diagonal black line. Save it as jpeg at less than 100% quality. Close it, then open it and zoom in. Not only is it all blurry, but is is also using 16777216 colours!
[01:33] <tritium> Stormx2: artifacts from the DCT performed on 8x8 blocks of pixels, and the subsequent compression
[01:33] <AskHL> Hello, if I use gksudo python <anything> then it complains that about 'no such file or directory'. However I can run python with files using regular sudo. What's going on here?
[01:33] <Stormx2> Warbo: True that
[01:33] <ENE|Toxic> xdm only flickers and kicks me back to console upon launch, and it leaves me with no error messages either. Have anyone experienced this problem ?
[01:34] <tritium> Warbo: work in a non-lossy format, and only save to a lossy one at the end, to avoid further image degradation
[01:34] <Mathman> ENE|Toxic: you mean it won't even let you try and log in?  you sure it's xdm?  not gdm or something?
[01:34] <Warbo> Stormx2: Also, if you like ahving loads of colours then 3D Studio Max 5 (the free trial I got with dWorld ages ago) can render to 48 trillion colour PNGs
[01:34] <ENE|Toxic> Mathman: yup that's exactly what I mean. Yes, I'm really really sure it's xdm.
[01:34] <rukuartic> Stormx2: Yes! Now I can take my desktop and turn it into a spinning cube
[01:35] <Mathman> ENE|Toxic: have you looked at /var/log/xorg.log or whatever?
[01:35] <Warbo> AskHL: Are you sure gksudo can give options to programs?
[01:35] <ENE|Toxic> Mathman: startx and all works fine, but xdm doesn't seem to work at all. I've been looking at X.org.0.log, but I found no obvioius errors there ... Or no errors at all
[01:35] <tritium> Warbo: that would be silly, since most displays are only 24-bit
[01:36] <taigeR> I have a CD that I burn in WinXP a long time ago with .iso files and when I insert it in ubuntu, it doesn't read it
[01:36] <taigeR> what could be wrong?
[01:36] <AskHL> Warbo, I discovered the error when running a command as specified from the easyubuntu webpage, so I suppose it 'generally' should work
[01:36] <Mathman> ENE|Toxic: yeah, I guess you maybe wouldn't if X works normally.
[01:36] <rukuartic> taigeR: Close the cd? Mount the CD?
[01:36] <Mathman> ENE|Toxic: dunno.  why xdm is what I'd wonder though?
[01:36] <taigeR> rukuartic, i just want to copy that CD
[01:36] <Stormx2> Yeah... 48 trillion? you'd still see the same colours
[01:37] <taigeR> but i can't even see the content of the DVD
[01:37] <facugaich> guys, how to re-configure Xorg?
[01:37] <AskHL> Warbo, I could run 'sudo su' and launch the script from there, but that's probably the thing gksudo exists in order to prevent.
[01:37] <tritium> facugaich: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:37] <mcphail> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:37] <Warbo> tritium: I know, but I still found it cool. Also in open formats you can add crazy stuff like "brightness" per pixel, making an image of the sun different from an image of some paper when it comes to animation.
[01:37] <ENE|Toxic> Mathman: Yeah I find that strange as well .. Whm, xdm is lightweight and doesn't allocate alot of memory in the background and all. I'm using ubuntu-server install with fluxbox :)
[01:37] <tritium> AskHL: sudo -i
[01:37] <facugaich> thank you
[01:38] <Warbo> AskHL: I never use gksudo myself you see, just sudo, that's why it was a question not a statement
[01:38] <AskHL> tritium, thank you, that did it.
[01:39] <mcphail> AskHL: have you tried gksudo python /full/path/to/file ?
[01:39] <taigeR> rukuartic, what do you say?
[01:39] <AskHL> Warbo, all right
[01:39] <AskHL> mcphail, I had tried that, too, yes
[01:39] <akonkwa> does anyone know where I can find my ssh configuration file?
[01:39] <Mathman> ENE|Toxic: I'd imagine you could run xdm from the command line, same as startx and all.  maybe try that and see if it spits out any errors.  Course you'll need to run X first too.  maybe just throw xdm in roots .xinitrc and run xinit?  actually I'm kinda unsure how you'd go about running it, I just figure it's possible.
[01:39] <rukuartic> akonkwa: /etc?
[01:39] <akonkwa> ssh
[01:39] <bimberi> akonkwa: /etc/ssh
[01:39] <AskHL> (and I have tested on more than one file)
[01:39] <taigeR> i can't see the content of my DVD
[01:40] <taigeR> could it be because it was burn in nero under WinX?
[01:40] <AngryElf> does anyone in here use lirc + mythtv?
[01:40] <taigeR> WinXP i mean
[01:40] <akonkwa> rukuartic,  bimberi , thanx
[01:40] <AskHL> Anyway, thanks for the help
[01:40] <bimberi> akonkwa: yw :)
[01:41] <ENE|Toxic> Mathman: well I tried starting xdm from terminal, but I get the same behavior, a flicker to X (x as in background with a terminal, not a login-screen) for 1ms and then back without any error.
[01:41] <Warbo> taigeR: Removable media like DVDs are the best standards compliant things you get. The only reason you mught not be able to see it after writing it on Wiondows is because Nero screwed the disc
[01:41] <mcphail> ENE|Toxic: does sudo /etc/init.d/xdm restart return an error?
[01:41] <ENE|Toxic> mcphail: hmm, start didn't, wait a sec and I'll see with restart
[01:42] <Klick_> Anyone here been able to figure out how to make thunderbird open URL's nothing happens when i click them, I have FF installed and in gnome i told it to be my perfered app
[01:42] <humbolt> what can cause my dapper to loose the wireless connection every 60 seconds. just long enough for my skype session being lost and my downloads being dropped?
[01:42] <rukuartic> using the wrong driver with ndiswrapper?
[01:43] <Klick_> syslog say anything?
[01:43] <humbolt> i have ipw2200 on a vaio with dapper
[01:43] <humbolt> syslog and dmesg dont say anything
[01:43] <humbolt> and NetworkManager does not seem to complain either.
[01:43] <akonkwa> Is there a way to load a graphical filebrowser from a unix server? (I already have it forwading X11)
[01:44] <ltR20> does anyone know how to get firefox working with flash
[01:44] <ltR20> i don't hear anysound in flash
[01:44] <humbolt> However, my downloads are dropped and my skype connection lost
[01:44] <rukuartic> ltR20: Go download aoss and run "aoss firefox"
[01:44] <mcphail> akonkwa: just type ssh:address to the address bar in nautilus on the local machine
[01:44] <ltR20> what's the apt-get ?
[01:44] <ltR20> apt-get install aoss?
[01:44] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: could the reason be that im running amd64 ubuntu? (yes, im still a noob :) )
[01:44] <humbolt> my ssh connections keep on dieing as well!
[01:45] <Mathman> akonkwa: depends on the unix server as to what it would have on it.
[01:45] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Haha... what, on a 686 or something?
[01:45] <humbolt> but they are a little more stable
[01:45] <humbolt> anybody any idea?
[01:45] <nalioth> humbolt: ask in #ubuntu+1 for dapper stuff, please
[01:45] <tritium> humbolt: my ipw2200 works well
[01:45] <ENE|Toxic> mcphail: yeah, "xdm not running (/var/run/xdm.pid not found)"
[01:45] <akonkwa> mcphail,  where can I find the address bar?
[01:46] <Warbo> akonkwa: ctrl-l I think
[01:46] <humbolt> nalioth: tritium: did have the problem in breezy either.
[01:46] <humbolt> might be related to some package I installed.
[01:46] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: no, but i just downloaded an older package from their website, and tried dpkg -i and got "package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)"
[01:46] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: my first day of linux.. ehehe
[01:46] <mcphail> akonkwa: (actually it is "ssh://address")
[01:46] <Mathman> ENE|Toxic: touch /var/run/xdm.pid?  check if /var/run exists?
[01:47] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Haha... might want to update... its ok. Good for you for trying
[01:47] <humbolt> I did not have this problem at first
[01:47] <facugaich> how often are repos updated?
[01:47] <akonkwa> mcphail,  I can't seem to find the address bar
[01:47] <akonkwa> mcphail,  where is it?
[01:47] <Mathman> akonkwa: did you try control l like someone was telling ya?
[01:48] <mcphail> akonkwa: it depend on how you have nautilus set up. ctrl-l might work
[01:48] <akonkwa> mcphail,  yes
[01:48] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: i just downloaded the previous version actually..
[01:48] <akonkwa> mcphail,  it doesnt work
[01:48] <Warbo> facugaich: There is usually a few packages updated per week at least (less activity now Dapper is so close) and Dapper has huge updates of everything every few days
[01:48] <ENE|Toxic> Mathman: Well that fixed the error message, still won't start though. Just says "stoppding xdm, starting xdm" with no errors. ..
[01:48] <facugaich> I see, Warbo, thank you
[01:49] <|GBH|> just installed Ubuntu server and have 2 issues. First is /var/log/messages is in an unreadable format and second is my network config isn't working (though the second I might be able to fix myself if the first one was sorted)
[01:49] <|GBH|> anyone help me please? :)
[01:49] <mcphail> akonkwa: i use nautilus in "browser" mode. I can't remeber the setting in spatial etc
[01:49] <akonkwa> mcphail,  ok i found it :-)
[01:49] <mcphail> akonkwa: :)
[01:50] <ltR20> rukartic how do i play movies?
[01:50] <ltR20> quicktime,mpg,wmv etc
[01:50] <ltR20> in firefox
[01:51] <rukuartic> !restrictedformats
[01:51] <Mathman> ENE|Toxic: you could have a look at what that script is doing and try and do it manually and see if any errors get spit out.
[01:51] <ubotu> I guess restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:51] <rukuartic> !wmv
[01:51] <rinnor1> is automatix worth it to upgrade firefox and other stuff
[01:51] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:51] <akonkwa> mcphail,  all right, i'm almost there, but what do I do if my login on the server is different than my login on my local machine?
[01:51] <rukuartic> rinnor1: Apparently, friends don't let friends do automatix :P
[01:51] <mcphail> akonkwa: ssh:''user@host
[01:51] <mcphail> akonkwa: ssh://user@host
[01:51] <ENE|Toxic> Mathman: yeah that's an option, I'll probably have a look at it tomorrow, need to get some sleep. Thx for the help
[01:51] <akonkwa> mcphail,  thanx
[01:51] <Warbo> rinnor1: no
[01:51] <mcphail> akonkwa: np
[01:52] <rinnor1> But to upgrade firefox from 1.0.7 to 1.5.2, I will need to follow about 5 steps in the wiki to add some links, etc.  Correct?
[01:52] <rinnor1> not a big problem
[01:53] <rukuartic> yea
[01:53] <rukuartic> there ya go rinnor1
[01:53] <rukuartic> dapper'll have all those nasty problems fixed.
[01:54] <rinnor1> looking forward to Dapper.  Of course, the better it works, the less I'll learn ;)
[01:54] <axemen|Thomas> excuse me, but what is Dapper?
[01:54] <rukuartic> rinnor1: You learn more by reading and looking for answers by yourself
[01:54] <beerockxs> the next ubuntu release axemen|Thomas
[01:54] <hadix> hi all
[01:54] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Next release of ubuntu. We go by code names
[01:54] <FlannelKing> axemen|Thomas: dapper is the next version of ubuntu.
[01:54] <rinnor1> axemen|Thomas, next release of Ubuntu
[01:54] <DewDude> Dapper is the name of the next release of Ubuntu
[01:54] <axemen|Thomas> aha!
[01:54] <axemen|Thomas> thanks :)
[01:54] <rukuartic> Haha
[01:54] <|GBH|> no one able to help with my problems then? :)
[01:55] <DewDude> rinnor1, i'm running the dev-build of Dapper..and it's been nice
[01:55] <hadix>  how can I adjust my monitor on 1280x800 pixels (15.4 wide screen)
[01:55] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Right now its Breezy Badger, was Hoary Hedgehog and a few other things
[01:55] <FlannelKing> WArty warthog
[01:55] <facugaich> |GBH|, why is messages in unreadable format? what did you use to see it?
[01:55] <DewDude> ahhh...Warty..the first ubuntu distro i installed
[01:55] <FlannelKing> axemen|Thomas: Dapper Drake is 6.06, the current version (Breezy) is 5.10
[01:55] <axemen|Thomas> i see
[01:56] <FlannelKing> DewDude: that's ebcause it was the first Ubuntu ;)
[01:56] <rukuartic> hadix: gnome-display-properties I think
[01:56] <|GBH|> standard grep/tail/cat
[01:56] <|GBH|> all I get is a fair stack of hex
[01:56] <axemen|Thomas> god im tired, spent all day trying to figure out this linux stuff. Managed to change resolution and refresh rate, get mp3s working, and divx (but with no sound)... :)
[01:57] <|GBH|> I'm used to Redhat/Mandrake and usually I just grep/cat/tail to my hearts content
[01:57] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Goooooood :P That took me forever.
[01:57] <facugaich> |GBH|, I see, then I don't know about that, sorry
[01:57] <rukuartic> |GBH|: What do you mean you get a hext dump O_o;; thats really weird
[01:57] <rukuartic> |GBH|: using bash?
[01:57] <|GBH|> well yes that was my thoughts ;)
[01:57] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: really good documentation to be found on the net actually. But this wine problem vexes me abit.
[01:58] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: ive followed the instructions 100%, but.. hmm
[01:58] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Try going to www.winehq.org
[01:58] <DewDude> axemen|Thomas, just don't give up...Ubuntu is a good distro to learn on.
[01:58] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: They have their own ubuntu repository for wine
[01:58] <facugaich> |GBH|, did you try "see text/plain:[file] "?
[01:58] <|GBH|> i's an absolute virgin install of Ubuntu - typing server at the prompt for install. Networking isn't working for some reason so I got to messages to look and I get this
[01:58] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: ive been living on that site for the last 3 hours :)
[01:59] <rukuartic> |GBH|: They figure that since you're a server admin, you can read hex like english :P
[01:59] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: yeah, i added the repository in the SPM and updated, no wine package found, then i added it "manually" in the /etc/apt/sources list and did apt-get update, but still.. arf.
[01:59] <|GBH|> basically each line is of the format [0000000.000000]  000: 00000000 // 00000000<PHONE_NUMBER> 000000000 // 000000000 00000000 000000000 // 00000000<PHONE_NUMBER> 000000000 // 000000000 00000000 000000000
[01:59] <mcphail> Does anyone know how to change the locations in the "Places" menu?
[01:59] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: You could try just going to bulid your own from source
[01:59] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: It really doesn't matter if you use an older version
[01:59] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: i even tried that, but then i got some kind of compiling error, and to try to fix that is way beyond me yet
[02:00] <ltR20> !tell ltr20 about restrictedformats
[02:00] <ltR20> !tell ltr20 about restricted formats
[02:00] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: What error didja get?
[02:00] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: 2 secs
[02:01] <|GBH|> nopthing on the net I could find with the same error, no one with the same problems in here. Ho hum :(
[02:02] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: ill PM it to you, its abit spammy for the general chat
[02:02] <mcphail> |GBH|: sounds like a problem with locales???
[02:02] <Shadyman> hey guys
[02:02] <Warbo> hey
[02:03] <|GBH|> shouldn't be, everything is fully English afaik
[02:03] <Shadyman> I'm having a fun little message on boot, says 0 logical volumes in volume group, and drops to shell
[02:03] <|GBH|> took English as all the locales
[02:03] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Pastebin.org?
[02:03] <rukuartic> :P
[02:03] <|GBH|> typing is perfect and nothing else seems to be incorrect
[02:04] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: oh.. hmm
[02:04] <|GBH|> it's an idea though
[02:04] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Its ok
[02:04] <rukuartic> Do you have build-essential installed axemen|Thomas ?
[02:04] <Warbo> Shadyman : Are you using logical volumes
[02:04] <Shadyman> warbo: Yes.
[02:04] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: i think so, i installed the stuff they told me to in the howto
[02:04] <mcphail> |GBH|: does it display like that from the console as well as x/gnome/whateverterm?
[02:05] <Shadyman> warbo: my windows is /dev/hda1, boot is /dev/hda2 as i recall, and then i have a logical volume for the rest
[02:05] <leagris> good night all
[02:05] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: i quote from their website "instead of running apt-get install wine run 'apt-get build-dep wine'. This will download the needed development packages for your system to make the wine package."
[02:05] <|GBH|> this is server, there is no GUI ;)
[02:05] <|GBH|> everything I do is console
[02:05] <mcphail> aah
[02:05] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Ok, open a command prompt, type "dpkg -l | grep build
[02:05] <mcphail> you running screen?
[02:06] <|GBH|> :q!
[02:06] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: That lists all the packages you have installed on your system, but searches for ones that have "build"
[02:06] <|GBH|> lol
[02:06] <|GBH|> oops
[02:06] <|GBH|> nope this is direct into the console via a directly connected keyboard/screen
[02:06] <Warbo> Shadyman: Sounds like my old Fedora system. Is the root= bit of your kernel line in GRUB pointing to /dev/mapper/Group-Volume or /dev/Group/Volume?
[02:07] <Shadyman> warbo: /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00
[02:08] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: http://pastebin.com/670437
[02:08] <Warbo> Shadyman: Hmmm. (I had problems occasionally with /dev/Chris/Root but never /dev/mapper/Chris-Root)
[02:08] <Shadyman> Warbo: Maybe it's jealous that I went back to using Windows.
[02:08] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Great, you have the needed programs
[02:08] <ts20_5m0k3> I wonder why I can't remove acx_pci
[02:08] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Go to winehq.com, download the source for the latest stable. We're gonna compile it.
[02:08] <Shadyman> Warbo: The only thing in /dev/mapper is "control"
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[02:09] <sop> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
[02:09] <Shadyman> wtf?
[02:09] <sop> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
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[02:09] <_jason> !ops
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[02:09] <sop> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
[02:09] <Shadyman> +spam
[02:09] <FlannelKing> +R ubugtu +R!
[02:09] <rukuartic> Whoooop... that sucks...
[02:10] <Shadyman> yep
[02:10] <FlannelKing> oh, no... it's just that theyre identified now
[02:10] <rukuartic> Maybe we should join #fazlamesai and start pasting #ubuntu
[02:10] <Warbo> Shadyman: It sounds like you either have no LVM module in your initrd, or you have no Volumes in your Group (obviously wrong)
[02:10] <Amaranth> Ubugtu: Die.
[02:10] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: i did apt-get source wine, is that correct?
[02:10] <ITSa341> lol  this seems to be MUCH better     LOL
[02:10] <Amaranth> nalioth: only one guy
[02:10] <nalioth> rukuartic: NO. this is a smear attempt on that channel, they are not involved
[02:10] <FlannelKing> rukuartic: read your notices
[02:10] <rukuartic> nalioth: Oh... whoops!
[02:11] <rukuartic> nalioth: I was making a poor joke =\
[02:11] <Shadyman> Warbu: well, on load it says I have hda, at least. I Guess that's a good thing.
[02:11] <FlannelKing> nalioth: +R seems to be useless now, buggers.
[02:11] <nalioth> FlannelKing: that was a channel member being funny, i believe.
[02:11] <nalioth> FlannelKing: not a real spambot
[02:11] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Nope... go actually download the .tar.gz file
[02:11] <ITSa341> Good evening I have a simple question     Can I safely share one /home partition between Ubuntu 5.1, Dapper Drake and Xandros? Or is this a very bad idea?
[02:11] <Warbo> Shadyman: You haven't been messing around trying to load lvm1 and lvm2 at the same time have you? (they conflict)
[02:11] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: roger that
[02:11] <FlannelKing> nalioth: I don't believe so.  I think I've seen sop before.  but, could be.
[02:12] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Yep :)
[02:12] <Shadyman> Warbo: I'll admit I don't know what that means. So I guess it's a no.
[02:12] <Warbo> Shadyman: Oh, you wouldn't have then. (lvm is Logical Volume Manager and versions 1 and 2 cannot be used at the same time)
[02:12] <OrTigaS> hi
[02:12] <Shadyman> Warbo: I figured as much, but hey ;)
[02:13] <ltR20> how do i play .avi files in ubuntu
[02:13] <ltR20> i downloaded the w32 codecs and they still dont play
[02:13] <Shadyman> Warbo: The biggest crying shame is I just got everything working fine.
[02:13] <Shadyman> Warbo: Wireless, ACPI, etc.
[02:13] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: could  	wine-0.9.12.tar.bz2 be the correct one?
[02:13] <keleus> hi all... anyone know what to do about this?
[02:13] <keleus> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2: MD5Sum mismatch
[02:13] <rukuartic> should be axemen|Thomas
[02:13] <Shadyman> keleus: Re-download it?
[02:13] <keleus> when i try to update my package list
[02:14] <rukuartic> keleus: sudo apt-cache clear I think...
[02:14] <Shadyman> keleus: Oh.
[02:14] <_jason> ubotu: tell ltR20 about multimedia
[02:14] <rukuartic> keleus: sudo apt-get clean actually
[02:14] <benji_123456789> when is dapper realeased again?
[02:14] <Warbo> Shadyman: Well, are you sure they are set up correctly? Have you accessed them before from a regular boot up (not just after installation)? I had no problems with LVM on Breezy with my Home spread accross 2 drives (until one failed and took the other with it)
[02:14] <Shadyman> Warbo: I've used it for months.
[02:14] <bimberi> benji_123456789: june 1
[02:14] <Warbo> Shadyman: Hmmmm. Done a kernel upgrade recently?
[02:15] <zaxc> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
[02:15] <benji_123456789> many thanks
[02:15] <Shadyman> Warbo: Just, I haven't used it for a month or so, and I tried to boot, and it didnt work.
[02:15] <zaxc> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
[02:15] <ITSa341> Can I safely share one /home partition between Ubuntu 5.1, Dapper Drake and Xandros? Or is this a very bad idea?
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[02:15] <_jason> !ops
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[02:15] <ITSa341> lol  here we go again
[02:15] <_jason> Seveas: bot needs to be fixed :)
[02:15] <Amaranth> *sigh*
[02:15] <DBO> hmmm, it seems they are registering now...
[02:15] <Shadyman> Warbo: I'm on 2.6.12-10
[02:15] <Amaranth> DBO: n= means not identified
[02:15] <keleus> wtf was that zaxc
[02:15] <FlannelKing> ITSa341: the only problem I can see is the init scripts, all the data is fine, since it's just that, data.
[02:15] <amphi> ITSa341: should be ok - if program versions are very different, some dotfiles might get clobbered
[02:15] <Shadyman> Warbo: Omg.
[02:16] <ITSa341> I really feel for you guys trying to find a way to stop that and appreciate your efforts
[02:16] <nalioth> _jason: already on it
[02:16] <Warbo> Shadyman: I think it is to do with the initrd file on /boot, which only gets changed when you upgrade your kernel
[02:16] <Shadyman> Warbo: One of my boot options worked.
[02:16] <DBO> Amaranth, then why isnt +r working again?
[02:16] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: ok, all downloaded
[02:16] <nalioth> DBO: it doesnt work on registered users
[02:16] <Amaranth> +r is registered channel, iirc
[02:16] <FlannelKing> +R not +r
[02:16] <Shadyman> Warbo: I guess that means I get to clean out the initrd file ;)
[02:16] <Amaranth> oh, that's a different ircd
[02:16] <Amaranth> but yeah, we want +R
[02:16] <OrTigaS> hi
[02:16] <ITSa341> amphi and FlannelKing,  ty for your help
[02:16] <Warbo> Shadyman: Can you read binary?
[02:16] <Shadyman> Warbo: 01101001?
[02:17] <Warbo> Shadyman: No,<PHONE_NUMBER>10, you fool
[02:17] <keleus> thanks,  got it working
[02:17] <Shadyman> Warbo: Obviously.
[02:18] <Shadyman> Warbo: Now all I have to do is copy over a DHCP3 folder from my other ubuntu box to get dhcp again.. Don't ask
[02:18] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Great. open up a prompt, and "tar -xjf wine...."
 So are you saying it's working?
[02:18] <Shadyman> Warbo: No, I was thinking of the wrong file.
[02:18] <rukuartic> just finish off the filename. if you type "wine" and hit the TAB key it should finish the filename for ou
[02:18] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: done
[02:19] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Seroius? O_O that was... ...fast!
[02:19] <ITSa341> Warbo  you would have loved the background of my old website. I took a screensaver from the Matrix and replaced their code with binary code of our business name
[02:19] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Ok, switch to the new directory and type "./configure" (the ./ is really important)
[02:19] <amphi> rukuartic: heh
[02:20] <rukuartic> amphi: "Hey this is taking like... five days... whats wrong?"
[02:20] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: you said I could msg yesterday... oh well.
[02:20] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: you rang?
[02:20] <Warbo> Shadyman: Do you have any Live CDs that have LVM support? (Ubuntu Live does, but I think you have to run all of the commands yourself (for mounting and stuff)) See if that detects your system. If not then something's wrong with the Logical Volume
[02:20] <King-of-no-pants>  amphi: yes, turns out I registered this name a month ago
[02:20] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: I just forgot
[02:20] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: no worries
[02:20] <Warbo> ITSa341: I'd hate it. I'm barely scratching the surface of Python at the moment, let alone binary!
[02:20] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: http://pastebin.com/670457
[02:21] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: anyways, How long should a memtest take to complete?
[02:21] <ltR20> _jason you there?
[02:21] <_jason> ltR20: yeah
[02:21] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: This'll take a moment... and "make" will take longer... in the background, put in "apt-get install checkinstall"
[02:21] <ltR20> I installed all those plugins and the movie still wont play.
[02:21] <Shadyman> Warbo: I got one of the boot options to work, though not the latest.
[02:21] <_jason> ltR20: what type of movie? what player? what exactly happens?
[02:21] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, as long as you are willing to give it, the longer the better, overnight is a standard run
[02:21] <ltR20> I had to do this 2 weeks ago to but i forgot what you said.. i reinstalled ubuntu yesturday
[02:21] <ltR20> It's totem movie player, avi.
[02:21] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: i got that same error again :(
[02:21] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: AFAIR it can take a long time - when I got a 1GB upgrade I think I ran it for 18 hours or so
[02:21] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: if you check the pastebin thingie
[02:21] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Oh, sudo apt-get install gcc I think..
[02:21] <ltR20> "totem could not play "...asdad.avi" no plugin to handle this movie
[02:21] <King-of-no-pants> well, its been going for, 22 Hours
[02:22] <King-of-no-pants> and eighteen minutes
[02:22] <ITSa341> Warbo  we took it down as it was too distracting and I got tired of the emails from people who managed to figure out that it said "Systembytes....etc" and complained about subliminal messages
[02:22] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, thats long enough
[02:22] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: newest is installed
[02:22] <rukuartic> Er, what do you need to compile stuff? build-essential and what else?
[02:22] <Jinkguns> I'm doing the wireless setup for the broadcom chip, and trying: sudo sed --in-place 's/RadioState|1/RadioState|0/g' $conffile returns "sed: can't read -: No such file or directory
[02:22] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: does it ever "complete" ?
[02:22] <Jinkguns> Any ideas?
[02:22] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: that should be ok ;)
[02:22] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, no
[02:22] <King-of-no-pants> ahh!
[02:22] <Warbo> Shadyman: Oh, that's what you meant by boot option (I thought you meant an option given to the kernel). OK, well there is no point remaking the initrd yourself, but you can run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-(your kernel version)" to rebuild it with the defaults
[02:23] <King-of-no-pants> well, 28 passes and 0 errors
[02:23] <spazzyworm> hi folks, anyone know where to get the newly released dapper beta?
[02:23] <nalioth> rukuartic: the error msgs from w/e you are doing will advise what you need
[02:23] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: no errors? when I had some marginal ram, I got many errors, rarely or never at consistent addresses
[02:23] <Warbo> ITSa341: Is it subliminal if nobody can actually understand it? Would I be influenced by a subliminal Swedish advert?
[02:23] <ITSa341> Warbo   that is what I said
[02:23] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, you know what that means?  your ram is just fine =)
[02:23] <malavar> hello everyone
[02:23] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: haha, i dont think wine wants to install on my system :)
[02:23] <_jason> ltR20: do you have mplayer?
[02:24] <King-of-no-pants> errors: 0, ECC errors, blank
[02:24] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: rejoice
[02:24] <King-of-no-pants> well thats no help!
[02:24] <King-of-no-pants> now I dont know whats wrong with my computer
[02:24] <jeremybk_> Could someone help me mount an XP share
[02:24] <DBO> what is happening King-of-no-pants ?
[02:24] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: you never did
[02:24] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: crashing
[02:24] <ltR20> yes jason
[02:24] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, in what manner?
[02:25] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: but now you've eliminated one possibility
[02:25] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: a few different ones
[02:25] <_jason> ltR20: does mplayer play it?
[02:25] <ltR20> No
[02:25] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: and I replaced the graphics card
[02:25] <Warbo> Does anyone know what happens when you plug a TV out in an ATI card into a TV? I heard that if you boot up with it in then you get a TV out image on your TV, but I don't (can't tell if it's the computer or the telly)
[02:25] <Mathman> King-of-no-pants: I'd run memtest over night myself
[02:25] <_jason> ltR20: mplayer -identify file.avi, on pastebin please
[02:25] <amphi> DBO: he had at least one spmtaneous reboot
[02:25] <DBO> Mathman, he just did =P
[02:25] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: random flips into console mode, one spontaneous reboot, a few freezes
[02:25] <Mathman> DBO: hmm, ok.  coulda sworn he said 20 minutes or something.
[02:25] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: It can, and it WILL.
[02:26] <King-of-no-pants> mathman: 22 hours :)
[02:26] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, sounds like thermal issues and/or dirty power
[02:26] <monesent> hello
[02:26] <Mathman> ah, ok.  my mistake
[02:26] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: :)
[02:26] <CokeNCode> ok, i installed xampp
[02:26] <Jinkguns> err, when is dapper coming out?
[02:26] <rukuartic> nalioth: Ask Axe for the error messages... says GCC can't build executables or something.
[02:26] <CokeNCode> and now i can't find apache
[02:26] <CokeNCode> or any of the services
[02:26] <spazzyworm> anyone?
[02:26] <CokeNCode> what gives ?
[02:26] <Warbo> monesent: hello
[02:26] <CokeNCode> how do i start apache  ?
[02:26] <me2win> ubotu: tell Jinkguns about dapper
[02:26] <monesent> hey guys
[02:26] <ltR20> _jason is there a command to play it in the terminal
[02:26] <nalioth> ubotu tell CokeNCode about lamp
[02:26] <monesent> is it true that neti2220 works on the ubuntu linux distro
[02:26] <nalioth> CokeNCode: check your priv msgs
[02:26] <jeremybk_> I added a line to my fstab file to mount an unprotected XP share.  Every time I reboot, it asks for a password.
[02:26] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: I am reluctant to replace the power supply, as it contains the only fan that is blowing over the processor
[02:26] <amphi> spazzyworm: ubuntu.org?
[02:26] <rukuartic> xampp is friendly :P
[02:26] <CokeNCode> i know, i have it installed already
[02:26] <_jason> ltR20: I just gave it to you
[02:26] <me2win> !xampp
[02:26] <ubotu> me2win: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:27] <CokeNCode> and it was working
[02:27] <spazzyworm> amphi> not yet
[02:27] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: that could be your problem, overheating
[02:27] <monesent> even on the acer aspire 1522WLMi
[02:27] <ltR20> _jason sorry i didn't see
[02:27] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, that might be part of your problem here, can you check your CPU temperature (you might need to check in BIOS)
[02:27] <CokeNCode> but, now, i don't know how to get the services running again
[02:27] <_jason> ltR20: mplayer -identify file.avi, on pastebin please
[02:27] <CokeNCode> namely apache
[02:27] <rukuartic> me2win: Xampp is apache, mysql, php, and perl. As well as a FTP server and a few other things. makes it really easy to start a capable server in seconds
[02:27] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: if acpi is working on that box, you could try acpi -t
[02:27] <monesent> wurd
[02:27] <monesent> oops
[02:27] <nalioth> CokeNCode: the answer is in your irc private messages
[02:28] <me2win> rukuartic: i know, i had added a xampp factoid to ubotu, but it doesnt exist anymore it seems
[02:28] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: This computer was not built by me, it was made by NEC, I don't think they would ship a box that would overheat
[02:28] <rukuartic> oh, nalioth http://pastebin.com/670457 there it is :P
[02:28] <jeremybk_> I added a line to my fstab file to mount an unprotected XP share.  Every time I reboot, it asks for a password.
[02:28] <ltR20> _jason http://pastebin.com/670469
[02:28] <k31th> If i wanted to set some thing in vixiecron to run at say 7am wat would i put in crontab ?
[02:28] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: there's no fan on the cpu? what cpu is it?
[02:28] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, you would be surprised...  if dust has built up on the heatsink it very well could be
[02:28] <_jason> ltR20: you put the -identify in there?
[02:28] <amphi> k31th: man 5 crontab has the grisly details
[02:28] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: 400mhz, Slot 1, PII
[02:29] <DBO> nevermind...
[02:29] <DBO> that doesnt put out much heat
[02:29] <rukuartic> nalioth: I'm just trying to figure out what I need... its build-essential, gcc, and what else?
[02:29] <King-of-no-pants> DBO: I'll check it out, as it looked very clean to me the other day.
[02:29] <k31th> amphi: ta
[02:29] <ltR20> sorry i didnt copy it properly
[02:29] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: slot 1? Is that the damn great daughter-board-in-a-box?
[02:29] <ltR20> http://pastebin.com/670472
[02:29] <nalioth> rukuartic: try a version up or downstream of wine source
[02:29] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, do you have a multimeter?
[02:29] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: a what?
[02:29] <Warbo> rukuartic: build-essential gives you gcc
[02:29] <monesent> thanx ;)
[02:29] <rukuartic> nalioth: He's having a problem installing with apt-get
[02:30] <rukuartic> nalioth: i was going to have him get source and checkinstall
[02:30] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: that's a 'no' , I guess ;)
[02:30] <djk_> mmh, are there any download-managers for linux?
[02:30] <asdf25> how do i change the image shown on the console while booting?
[02:30] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, its a device that measures electrical current... king of looks like two meat thermometers attatched to wires...
[02:30] <monesent> huh me?
[02:30] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: Im not sure what a multimeter is
[02:30] <nalioth> rukuartic: build-esential and checkinstall are good basics to have
[02:30] <rukuartic> djk wget works well :P
[02:30] <nalioth> rukuartic: mind my spelling
[02:30] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: Oh yeah! my teacher used one of those on a machine of mine earlier this year
[02:30] <Warbo> djk_: quite a few, I use DownThemAll plugin in FireFox
[02:30] <rukuartic> nalioth: :P
[02:30] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: I don't have one on me, thou
[02:31] <spazzyworm> djk_; mostly front-ends to wget
[02:31] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: er, more on a power chord
[02:31] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, beautiful, you think you could get your teacher to measure the voltage levels on your PSU then (since he seems comfortable doing it)
[02:31] <monesent> iso? and a copy of a cd burner worked for me
[02:31] <djk_> rukuartic: yea i know, but a frontend would be nicer
[02:31] <CokeNCode> oh k, thanks a bunch guys
[02:31] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: I'll do that.
[02:31] <djk_> spazzyworm: oh nice. what are they called?
[02:31] <rukuartic> djk_: Search google for "wget gnome frontend"
[02:31] <djk_> Warbo: yea i know that, but i don't use ff ;)
[02:31] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Hey, I'm gettin some help from nalioth
[02:31] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: do I need to bring in anything other than the psu?
[02:31] <monesent> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[02:31] <_jason> ltR20: does this happen with other xvid files?
[02:31] <spazzyworm> djk_: gwget is the best one IMHO
[02:32] <jeremybk_> Could someone help me mount an XP share?
[02:32] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, YES!  the whole PC needs to go
[02:32] <Warbo> djk_: Well I've started to use Epiphany more now anyway
[02:32] <ltR20> _jason Yes.
[02:32] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, do NOT turn the PSU on without some kind of load on it
[02:32] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: How should I go about stopping the memtest?
[02:32] <_jason> ltR20: then it's a problem with the actual video most likely
[02:32] <djk_> Warbo: opera is my one true love :)
[02:32] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: Ok
[02:32] <Warbo> djk_: I did have "downloader for X" but it was a bit crap
[02:32] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: im hanging in there :) i appreciate all your help. I checked config.log, and it said something like: http://pastebin.com/670475
[02:32] <ltR20> _jason it happens with other videos
[02:32] <djk_> spazzyworm: thanks, i'll try it
[02:32] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: It would just be alot easier for me to bring in a psu...
[02:32] <_jason> ltR20: oh
[02:32] <ltR20> _jason none of my vids work.
[02:33] <DBO> King-of-no-pants, I understand fully, but doing so is dangerous to both you and the PSU
[02:33] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: thats why I checked
[02:33] <King-of-no-pants> dbo: ;)
[02:33] <Warbo> brb (nature calls)
[02:33] <_jason> ltR20: why are using debian mplayer?
[02:34] <ltR20> _jason ? no clue.
[02:34] <Klick_> hey what exactly are orphined packages i have a ton of them but it looks like stuff i use, is it safe to delete these?
[02:34] <DBO> =)  make sure you are very careful, a PSU is not something you want to play games with.  If your teacher does not seem comfortable, seek further help.  Do not attempt to check the voltages on your own unless you are very comfy with it
[02:34] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: reboot
[02:34] <ltR20> _jason how do i get the trash icon on my desktop, i deleted somthing by accident
[02:34] <_jason> !desktoptrash
[02:34] <ubotu> desktoptrash is, like, applications menu-> system tools-> configuration editor: /apps/nautilus/desktop/trash_icon_visible
[02:34] <King-of-no-pants> he guys, I'll brb, Im gonna get on a laptop, so I can run the Linux PC and chat at the same time.  And I've gotta go to the bathroom.
[02:34] <ice_1963> is there a why to jest install the base of gnome?
[02:34] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: alright, brb
[02:34] <FlannelKing> ice_1963: install gnome-base, or whatever its called
[02:35] <Phlosten> ice_1963, you could do a server install and just install what you need on top of that
[02:35] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Hey... I get helped by other people... pass on the knowledge :P
[02:35] <ice_1963> ok
[02:36] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: might want to pass to nalioth
[02:36] <ltR20> _jason i fixed it, thanks.
[02:36] <_jason> ltR20: the video problem?  what caused it?
[02:36] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: thanks a bunch mate, eventho wine is not yet installed, i learned alot :)
[02:37] <ice_1963> ok how can i do a server install?
[02:37] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Yea... you just keep learning. Its a great thing :P
[02:37] <ltR20> it was that one video, but 5 minutes before the other videos wernt working either
[02:37] <ltR20> anyway it works now thx
[02:37] <FlannelKing> ice_1963: from the install CD, type "server" at the initial prompt
[02:37] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: still just my first day of linux :)
[02:37] <amphi> axemen|Thomas: you appear to have no suitable standard c library...
[02:37] <Phlosten> ice_1963, be aware that a server install is very bare bones, it is only about 63 packages versus the 500 for a normal install
[02:37] <Shadyman> axemen|Thomas: I remember my first day.
[02:38] <rukuartic> amphi: What do you need to compile stuff? build essential and...
[02:38] <Shadyman> axemen|Thomas: I was like omgwtf
[02:38] <rukuartic> amphi: Its like 3 things...
[02:38] <ice_1963> and that will install my right
[02:38] <rukuartic> awm-gee Shadyman!!
[02:38] <axemen|Thomas> Shadyman: haha :)
[02:38] <ice_1963> base
[02:38] <jinho326> hi i installed xubuntu yesterday and today when I turned it back on, it wouldnt load...I've had this problem with the original ubuntu...so I tried to do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but it hasnt helped...any ideas?
[02:38] <amphi> rukuartic: all the errors seem to be the linker complaining about libc
[02:39] <monesent> thnx guys
[02:39] <rukuartic> amphi: Mmmm.
[02:39] <Shadyman> jinho326: How do you mean "Not load"?
[02:39] <jinho326> Shadyman: I mean that it wont go into the GUI
[02:39] <Shadyman> jinho326: What does it go into?
[02:40] <rukuartic> amphi: its a vanilla system
[02:40] <jinho326> Shadyman: I have access to the command line if i boot through recovery mode
[02:40] <jinho326> Shadyman: but thats about it
[02:40] <ice_1963> what is in ubuntu right now gnome 2.12 or 2.14 ??
[02:40] <rukuartic> 2.12 ice_1963
[02:40] <Shadyman> jinho326: Oh. I don't know about that, then. sorry
[02:40] <rukuartic> Dapper'll have 2.14
[02:40] <amphi> rukuartic: 64/32 bit problem? dunno, I'm all 32bit
[02:40] <jinho326> Shadyman: thing is xubuntu is using xfce
[02:40] <rukuartic> amphi: Naw its just a vanilla system. He doesn't have the important installed stuff
[02:40] <jinho326> would that have to do w/ it?
[02:40] <rukuartic> Whoo! go xfce!!
[02:41] <amphi> rukuartic: he hasn't installed build-essential?
[02:41] <jinho326>  (xfce is so pretty...but I cant get to it...T_T)
[02:41] <rukuartic> amphi: He's got that... what else is there? there's like three total
[02:41] <rukuartic> jinho326: At the login screen, click "session"
[02:41] <amphi> rukuartic: 3 total what?
[02:41] <rukuartic> amphi: Packages you need to install to build stuff
[02:41] <jinho326> rukuartic: thing is I cant even get to the login screen
[02:41] <ice_1963> can i install my nvidia driver ?
[02:41] <rukuartic> jinho326: System>Logout? I think?
[02:41] <Phlosten> jinho326, did you just install that latest Xubuntu cd?
[02:41] <jinho326> I'm running ATI 9200,
[02:42] <amphi> rukuartic: build-essential is a meta-package 'containing' many packages
[02:42] <jinho326> Phlosten: yeah...
[02:42] <invisage01> anyone having problems downloading the dapper daily build today? or is it just me?
[02:42] <Phlosten> jinho326, did you follow the instructions to install xubuntu-desktop?
[02:42] <amphi> rukuartic: he might need another version of gcc, dunno
[02:42] <nemik> doing dist-upgrade to dapper was the stupides decision ever. EVERYTHING is broken
[02:42] <jinho326> Phlosten: what do you mean? I had it working perfectly yesterday...
[02:42] <invisage01> http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/ is just timing out for me.. anyone else have this prob?
[02:42] <amphi> nemik: that's the fun of unstable
[02:43] <jinho326> Phlosten: today when I loaded it, this was the first reboot- thing is this screen problem also happened w/ breezy installation of regular ubuntu
[02:43] <nemik> amphi, my eth0 is gone; doesn't exit. i can't even connect to the internet!
[02:43] <Phlosten> jinho326, the install instructions for Xubuntu state that the CD should be installed with 'server' mode and you should install xubuntu-desktop manually
[02:43] <ITSa341> invisage01   I've been getting timeouts trying to download the dvd version for two days now. Gets 1/2 way and times out
[02:43] <Phlosten> jinho326, ok, fair enough
[02:43] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: I actually have to split to get a shower real quick... =\
[02:44] <Phlosten> jinho326, did it shut down cleanly?
[02:44] <rukuartic> amphi: If you're not doing anything, he needs help
[02:44] <jinho326> Phlosten: like a breeze
[02:44] <axemen|Thomas> rukuartic: np mate, thanks a bunch for all your help :)
[02:44] <ITSa341> invisage01   that link times out for me also
[02:44] <amphi> nemik: doesn't exit?
[02:44] <invisage01> thanks ITSa341: i was having similar probs trying to dl at work yesterday.. trying with a DL manager from home today.. but only timing out
[02:45] <invisage01> .. called in sick and everything to do it heh
[02:45] <amphi> axemen|Thomas: are you on a 64bit machine?
[02:45] <nemik> amphi, yep; just gone. not to mention that x won't start and all the seg-faults i get even booting
[02:45] <jinho326> Phlosten: has there been any reports of issues like this w/ dapper?
[02:45] <rukuartic> axemen|Thomas: Heh. No problem ;p
[02:45] <Warbo> amphi: I think doesn't exist
[02:45] <axemen|Thomas> Amphi: yeah
[02:45] <ITSa341> invisage01   I tried it on 3 machines
[02:45] <amphi> nemik: what happens if you modprobe the module?
[02:45] <nemik> amphi...how would i do that?
[02:45] <invisage01> it's not just me for once! :) best news EVER! :P
[02:45] <Phlosten> jinho326, I havent noticed any, you could have a look through the forums
[02:46] <amphi> axemen|Thomas: that would seem to be at least part of the problem - I don't know about 64bit, so I can't help
[02:46] <jinho326> Phlosten: any last words of advice (or comfort...)
[02:46] <trainstroker> i built and installed the xvid codec, so now all i have to do is open a movie player and it will work. or do i need to register it somehow
[02:46] <yipe> hi everybody
[02:46] <amphi> nemik: what card is it?
[02:46] <Warbo> yipe: hi
[02:46] <Klick_>  Can someone tell me what orphaned packages are i notice i have a lot of them but, im not sure if i use them or not
[02:46] <Phlosten> jinho326, you said you tried dpkg-reconfigure on xorg right?
[02:46] <nemik> amphi, not to sure; internal ethernet one; probably broadcom
[02:46] <ITSa341> invisage01   I tried it at work  LOL
[02:46] <jinho326> Phlosten: yup
[02:46] <amphi> nemik: lspci would tell you, probably
[02:46] <jinho326> Phlosten: o yeah... i didnt use the frame buffer thing for the kernel...would that have helped?
[02:46] <yipe> how can I find out my system's uptime?
[02:46] <Phlosten> jinho326, have you tried it with the 'vesa' driver?
[02:47] <nemik> amphi, lscpi? command not found...
[02:47] <Phlosten> jinho326, no, no frame buffer is usually best
[02:47] <amphi> Klick_: packages on which no others depend, such as unnecesary libraries
[02:47] <axemen|Thomas> Amphi: i installed a 64 bit version for AMD processors i think, maybe i can install a 32 bit amd version instead?
[02:47] <amphi> nemik: sudo lspci
[02:47] <jinho326> Phlosten: hmm, no I went strait to the flgrx drivers, how do the vesa drivers differ?
[02:47] <djk_> yipe: in a terminal type uptime
[02:47] <axemen|Thomas> amphi: not quite sure how these things work
[02:47] <yipe> thanks:)
[02:47] <Warbo> Klick_: "oprhaned" means that you didn't ask for them to be installed, something else needed them. Now you don't need them any more, but you may like them anyway (for example, if you install java for firefox it will install java, get rid of java for firefox you don't technically need java, but you may still want it)
[02:47] <amphi> axemen|Thomas: I have no idea what contortions you need to go through, but that might be it
[02:47] <Phlosten> jinho326, try the 'vesa' driver, the vesa driver is a generic video driver that should work on everything
[02:47] <nemik> amphi, realtek ehternet controller
[02:48] <amphi> nemik: 8139?
[02:48] <yipe> 2 days, 20 hours:)
[02:48] <jinho326> Phlosten: will I lose anything though?
[02:48] <Phlosten> jinho326, it has no 3d acceleration support tho, but might narrow it down to a driver problem
[02:48] <amphi> yipe: ?
[02:48] <Klick_> gotcha, thanks
[02:48] <yipe> that's my current uptime
[02:48] <jinho326> Phlosten: in terms of quality? Oh, I see what you mean now
[02:48] <nemik> amphi, yes 8139
[02:48] <Phlosten> jinho326, no, it will just try to initialise your video card differently
[02:48] <King-of-no-pants> back
[02:48] <jinho326> Phlosten: alright I'll try that
[02:48] <jinho326> Phlosten: thanks for the help mate!
[02:48] <yipe> and also the time since I reinstalled ubuntu so I could repartition my HD
[02:48] <Orborde> What DNS client package does Ubuntu use?
[02:48] <amphi> nemik: try sudo modprobe 8139too and then do sudo ifconfig -a and see if the interface is there
[02:49] <Phlosten> jinho326, try it first, if it works with vesa then it is more than likely a driver issue of some sort
[02:49] <jinho326> Phlosten: gotcha!
[02:50] <nemik> amphi, yes thank you! it is running now
[02:50] <carbo> help.. sudo is supposed to ask for my password right? its not doing that, it just runs and that looks kinda insecure
[02:50] <nalioth> carbo: when was the last time you used sudo? it has a 15 minute lifespan
[02:50] <Phlosten> carbo, if you have already provided a password for a previous sudo login within a certain amount of time it wont ask for password again
[02:50] <Warbo> carbo: Have you messed around with sudoers? If you type it once it will remember for a short time as well
[02:51] <nemik> amphi, but things are still really bad; pushing up for previous entered command gives unknown key errors. should i try dist-upgrade all over again?
[02:51] <amphi> nemik: does grep 8139too /etc/modules show anything?
[02:51] <carbo> i know it has a 15 minute timer... but I just rebooted... also i tried to clear the thing with sudo -k or whatever it is, but it still doesn't ask for my password
[02:51] <SirKillalot> is there a program which can control my sound volume? (to bind it to keyboard shortcuts)
[02:51] <Warbo> There is a command to tell sudo to forget isn't there?
[02:51] <_jason> sudo -k
[02:52] <Warbo> carbo: If you have used visudo to play around with settings you may have permanent root access
[02:52] <Phlosten> SirKillalot, System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts?
[02:52] <nemik> amphi, the eth0 interface came back up. i did dhclient eth0; got an IP and can apt-get now. anything in particular you would recommend?
[02:52] <carbo> Warbo: yeah i did the forget thing but it doesn't work. I did add myself to sudoers cos previously i couldn't use sudo at all..
[02:52] <Orborde> What DNS client package does Ubuntu use? And how would I go about flushing the DNS cache?
[02:52] <trainstroker> i built and installed the xvid codec, so now all i have to do is open a movie player and it will work. or do i need to register it somehow
[02:52] <SirKillalot> Phlosten, doesnt work for me, it changes the volume of the false sound channel
[02:52] <SirKillalot> my volume is managed by PCM
[02:52] <_jason> carbo: can you paste the output of 'groups'?
[02:53] <carbo> _jason: carbo adm dialout cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner hamachi
[02:53] <_jason> carbo: why are you in the sudo group?  that's the reason
[02:53] <amphi> nemik: does grep 8139too /etc/modules show anything?
[02:53] <Warbo> carbo: Aha! Same as me. I am not the first user on my box, and I deleted the others. I then couldn't do anything as super user (not even add myself to admin) so I used single user mode to edit sudoers. Now I have root access with no password.
[02:53] <_jason> carbo: the proper group to be in is 'admin'
[02:53] <nemik> amphi: yes it is fine now
[02:54] <carbo> _jason: i'm not sure why i'm in those groups... okay i'll change it
[02:54] <Warbo> carbo: Although I am not root (if I do apt-get I get erors, but sudo apt-get works with no password)
[02:54] <amphi> nemik: what is fine? '8139' is in /etc/modules?
[02:54] <_jason> carbo: just make sure you /etc/sudoers contains the %admin line before you do that :P
[02:54] <Phlosten> SirKillalot, is your default soundcard set correct in 'Sound Preferences'?
[02:54] <carbo> Warbo: yeah that's the behaviour i'm getting. not root, but sudo doesn't ask for pw
[02:54] <djtansey> dapper is going to be supported for 3/5 years (desktop/server.) will the next release be supported for the same length of time? If not, how are people supposed to know which will have extended support?
[02:54] <nemik> amphi: yes. and I have an IP and the box is connceted to the internet. do you recommend me doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again?
[02:55] <nemik> djtansey: no next one will not. i guess it can be on the website how long each is supported and it will certiainly be printed on the manufactured CD's
[02:55] <Warbo> carbo: I would like to know how to fix that, but I'm not on my box at the moment (in case anyone is trying to hack me at the moment, you can't get root :))
[02:55] <paul__> Phlosten:hey
[02:56] <carbo> _jason: okay sorry how do i remove myself from a group? the users-admin thing doesn't list the group sudo so i have to do it manually
[02:56] <paul__> Phlosten:this is jinho
[02:56] <hadix> what is the name of ubuntu forum channel?
[02:56] <paul__> Phlosten: so i was able to get back on...thanks to the vesa drivers
[02:56] <_jason> carbo: first, 'sudo adduser your_username admin', then 'sudo deluser your_username sudo'
[02:56] <amphi> nemik: you could try, after an apt-get update
[02:56] <djtansey> nemik: but it won't be some obvious pattern, like every other one. or every third one. or every forth one?
[02:56] <bimberi> djtansey: next release will have 18 months support.  I don't know what the policy for which releases get extended support but they will overlap
[02:56] <FlannelKing> hadix: I don't believe there is one
[02:56] <Phlosten> paul__, ah-ha, so it is a driver problem
[02:56] <paul__> Phlosten: but now, what should I do, the video quality is absolute crap...
[02:56] <bimberi> hadix: #ubuntuforums
[02:56] <_jason> carbo: actually, first paste the resutl of 'sudo cat /etc/sudoers | grep admin'
[02:56] <hadix> aha
[02:57] <Phlosten> paul__, yes, unfortunately vesa is pretty ordinary, but at least it narrowed it down to a single problem area
[02:57] <nemik> djtansey: at this point i'm not sure. though i'm guessing ever 2 years such an 'enterprise' release will come out
[02:57] <hadix> I do not remember "s" lol ;)
[02:57] <paul__> Phlosten: yeah...so which drivers should I use?
[02:57] <trainstroker> what is CVS???
[02:57] <carbo> _jason: thanks it works! yeah i added %admin to sudoers with all permissions, is that right?
[02:57] <_jason> carbo: yeah
[02:57] <djtansey> nemik: thanks. just wanted to know. look forward to dapper and to a more edgy dapper+1 release.
[02:57] <bimberi> !cvs
[02:57] <ubotu> from memory, cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[02:57] <Phlosten> paul__, what sort of video card are you using?
[02:58] <amphi> trainstroker: apt-cache show cvs
[02:58] <nemik> djtansey: me too; though dapper has just scared me big-time. but i think they'll polish it up by release
[02:58] <paul__> Phlosten: ati 9200
[02:58] <trainstroker> amphi: phillip@ubuntu:~$ apt -cache show cvs
[02:58] <trainstroker> bash: apt: command not found
[02:58] <amphi> paul__: that card is supported by the xorg driver, according to man radeon
[02:59] <djtansey> nemik: why, what did it do? i just hope it has good laptop support (i.e. docking/undocking, external monitors, etc.)
[02:59] <amphi> trainstroker: that's not what I suggested to you
[02:59] <trainstroker> ?
[02:59] <Phlosten> paul__, one sec
[02:59] <_jason> trainstroker: apt-cache contains no spaces
[02:59] <paul__> Phlosten: so if I used the dpkg-command, which one would I picK?
[02:59] <trainstroker> apt -cache show cvs
[02:59] <amphi> trainstroker: _look_ at what I typed, and what you typed
[02:59] <Phlosten> amphi, by what driver?
[03:00] <trainstroker> oooo theres no space
[03:00] <jadacyru1> if i wanna design my own login manager, where would I find a tutorial or specifications of some kind?
[03:00] <trainstroker> sorry
[03:00] <amphi> Phlosten: er, radeon
[03:00] <amphi> trainstroker: heh
[03:00] <Phlosten> amphi, :)
[03:00] <nemik> djtansey: i wouldn't dare try it on my laptop at this point. breezy works beautifully on it. but i tried doing an apt-get dist-upgrade and it messed up; BAD. if you wanna try it; i would suggest a clean install. but don't do dist-upgrade and expect it to be easy
[03:00] <Warbo> jadacyru1: Your own entire program, or your own theme?
[03:00] <Phlosten> paul__, try the radeon driver then
[03:00] <paul__> from Ati?
[03:00] <nemik> djtansey: btw, i tried the dist-upgrade on my desktop not my laptop
[03:01] <amphi> paul__: no, the xorg (Free) driver
[03:01] <paul__> Phlosten: it will be listed as xorg in the choices then?
[03:01] <amphi> paul__: have a look at man radeon
[03:01] <Phlosten> paul__, type 'man radeon' in a terminal to see what amphi means
[03:01] <djtansey> nemik: to be honest, i'm considering doing a clean dapper beta install this weekend. i just have to make sure i have an up-to-date backup of it that isn't missing some files. (a couple years back did a clean install of my machine but forgot my gnupg keys...)
[03:01] <paul__> kk
[03:02] <Phlosten> paul__, and yes it should be there in your choice of options
[03:02] <amphi> nemik: you must expect b0rkage with an unstable version
[03:02] <djtansey> nemik: this time around i'm finally going to switch to my own /home partition... i just never wanted to before (on this laptop) because the harddrive isn't that huge.
[03:02] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: im back, I just had another random restart on my linux system, and my IRC started acting up at the same time
[03:02] <nemik> amphi: yes that's true. its just what i've been hearing about flight 5 made it seem super easy and stable
[03:02] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: This is the second time when my IRC kicked me off on the laptop, when my desktop linux crashed
[03:02] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: I imagine a random reboot would make everything 'act up' ;)
[03:02] <Phlosten> King-of-no-pants, no details in logs?
[03:03] <King-of-no-pants> phlosten: I'll check em
[03:03] <paul__> Phlosten: ah I see
[03:03] <djtansey> nemik: btw, how do you backup your home directory?
[03:03] <paul__> Phlosten:thanks, I'll give that a shot
[03:03] <paul__> Phlosten: for a second I thought man radeon was someone's name
[03:03] <Phlosten> paul__, let us know how it goes
[03:03] <paul__> Phlosten:lol
[03:03] <paul__> Phlosten: will do
[03:03] <nemik> djtansey: if i were to, i would load cp -rf /home to my 320 GB drive. :D
[03:04] <dj-fu> djtansey, tar -cfj /media/backupdrive/backup.tar.bz2 /home/$USER
[03:04] <King-of-no-pants> phlosten: I've got a bunch of "wireless event too big"
[03:04] <djtansey> nemik: yeah. probably the best. i used to have a nice diff script setup. lost it sometime...
[03:04] <Phlosten> King-of-no-pants, nothing else?
[03:05] <djtansey> dj-fu: thanks. i'll do that and exclude my music/images/etc directories so i don't waste time encrypting them
[03:05] <King-of-no-pants> phlosten: no, there is a ton of stuff in here
[03:05] <Phlosten> King-of-no-pants, did your computer totally reset, or just x?
[03:05] <trainstroker> how do i know the password to a cvs thingy
[03:05] <King-of-no-pants> phlosten: what log shoudl I look at? total reset
[03:05] <dj-fu> djtansey, nod, I hope you have a powerful processor
[03:05] <Phlosten> King-of-no-pants, maybe the kernel one
[03:05] <amphi> nemik: cp -a is nice ;)
[03:06] <paul__> Phlosten: sorry, but I dont see the xorg option in the reconfigure wizard
[03:06] <djtansey> dj-fu: nope. thinkpad x40. 1.2ghz. but i got nothing else to do tonight...
[03:06] <amphi> paul__: huh?
[03:06] <nemik> amphi; cp -a exits!? oh man. yea i'm relatively new to linux. been at it hardcore and fulltime but you learn something new every day. thanks!
[03:06] <Phlosten> paul__, one sec
[03:07] <paul__> amphi: I opened the dpkg-reconfigure xerver-xorg command and while trying to choose the drivers, its not in there...
[03:07] <amphi> nemik: see man cp, -a may not mean what you think it means ;)
[03:07] <paul__> amphi: is it in a repository?
[03:07] <trainstroker> how do i know the password to a cvs thingy
[03:07] <amphi> paul__: radeon isn't there? then go with ati, it'll use the same driver AFAIK
[03:07] <nemik> amphi: hehe when this apt monstrosity ever finishes; i'll be sure to check
[03:07] <Jinkguns> How do I make it so the module ndiswrapper is loaded on bootup?
[03:07] <paul__> amphi: oh, hte name is supposed to be radeon, not xorg?
[03:08] <tonyyarusso> ablyss: Very handy.
[03:08] <ablyss> :-)
[03:08] <amphi> paul__: sorry, choose ati
[03:09] <Phlosten> paul__, go the ati driver
[03:09] <paul__> Phlosten: amphi:gotcha
[03:09] <Whyvas> any pxe buffs out there?
[03:09] <trainstroker> how do i go about doing that?
[03:09] <amphi> trainstroker: why send me that url?
[03:10] <trainstroker> how do i handle cvs?
[03:10] <King-of-no-pants> phlosten: what should I be looking for?
[03:10] <amphi> trainstroker: man cvs might be a place to start; there are tutorials all over the web
[03:10] <FlannelKing> trainstroker: why cvs?
[03:10] <trainstroker> thats what a tut said to do
[03:11] <jadacyru1> just my own theme
[03:11] <jadacyru1> Warbro: sorry mt internet keeps dropping out di you respond to me?
[03:11] <paul__> phlosten: do I need to do a total system reboot, or is pressing ctrl+alt+bksp and relogging in good enough?
[03:11] <Phlosten> King-of-no-pants, kernel panic
[03:11] <amphi> paul__: no need to reboot
[03:11] <djtansey> dj-fu: general question: do i need to keep my .gconf, .gnome, .gnome2 directories to keep my evolution settings?
[03:11] <Phlosten> paul__, ctrl-alt-backspace at the gdm should be enough
[03:11] <amphi> paul__: you might need to do /etc/init.d/gdm restart, dunno, I don't use gui login
[03:12] <nemik> does replacing portmap usually take a long time in apt-get? mine seems stuck at it
[03:12] <paul__> amphi: waht would that do?
[03:12] <amphi> paul__: restart gdm ;)
[03:12] <Phlosten> paul__, log out of gnome, and at the login hit ctril-alt-backspace, that restarts gdm
[03:12] <kiko0123> http://apr19.imgshare.us/kvyy.png anyone have an idea how can i fix this error ? my keyboard dosent want to set properly to Canadian Multilingual
[03:12] <amphi> paul__: listen to Phlosten ;)
[03:12] <dj-fu> djtansey, I'd suggest doing so - especially if you are just reinstalling, if you are upgrading - maybe not.
[03:12] <paul__> so that would be like pressing ctrl-alt-bksp twice?
[03:13] <Phlosten> paul__, yes, spose do
[03:13] <Phlosten> so
[03:13] <trainstroker> amphi: im trying cvsage but it prompts for password?
[03:13] <djtansey> dj-fu: yeah... i probably have to. but i like to have as clean of slates as possible... oh well.
[03:13] <paul__> kk
[03:13] <King-of-no-pants> phlosten: there doesn't appear to be any kernel panic messages
[03:14] <Phlosten> King-of-no-pants, might be a very obscure reason for resetting, and if you have a hardware issue there may not be any :/
[03:14] <King-Of-Pants> phlosten: yep
[03:14] <amphi> djtansey: x40, is that one of the small ones, 12" panel?
[03:14] <paul__> phlosten: it told me that "the greeter program seemed to crash, opening with a new GUI"
[03:14] <paul__> phlosten:...well not word for word, but somethign along those lines
[03:14] <Phlosten> King-of-no-pants, my PC would not start yesterday because of dust :/
[03:14] <kiko0123> http://apr19.imgshare.us/kvyy.png anyone have an idea how can i fix this error ? my keyboard dosent want to set properly to Canadian Multilingual
[03:14] <paul__> phlosten: but i was able to get back in
[03:14] <Phlosten> paul__, thats ok, is it looking better?
[03:15] <King-Of-Pants> I've got something you guys can help me with.  I accidently set gaim to start at startup, how do I disable that?
[03:15] <djtansey> amphi: yup
[03:15] <paul__> phlosten: yeah the background is noticably better
[03:15] <amphi> djtansey: nice, I'm on a t42 here
[03:15] <paul__> phlosten: so I guess its fixed =)
[03:15] <Phlosten> paul__, excellent
[03:15] <patrick24601> can anybody recommend a good graphical ftp client?
[03:15] <paul__> phlosten: thanks phlosten!
[03:15] <paul__> amphi: thanks amphi!
[03:15] <amphi> patrick24601: gftp is popular
[03:15] <swa> patrick24601, sudo apt-get install gftp
[03:15] <dj-fu> Nautilus' built in ftp works alright
[03:16] <Phlosten> patrick24601, gftp is about the best there is, although it isnt terribly good, I personally use the fireftp plugin for firefox
[03:16] <djtansey> amphi: ah. wonderful thinkpads. best decision i ever made (well... excepting a few)
[03:16] <patrick24601> thanks
[03:16] <patrick24601> fireftp?
[03:16] <damian_> what would cause my /etc/resolv.conf to revert back to unsaved changes after i make modifications (the mods stick for about 5mins)
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> I just hope the ThinkPad reputation doesn't die as the connection to IBM weakens.
[03:16] <nemik> djtansey and amphi: those are both nice. my next computer will be a thinkpad. but for now my dell 700m is doing super
[03:16] <amphi> djtansey: yeah, I'm a big fan of stinkpads - I hope Lenovo keeps up the good work
[03:16] <Phlosten> patrick24601, check it out in the extensions section of the mozilla website
[03:16] <patrick24601> k
[03:16] <patrick24601> thanks
[03:16] <amphi> tonyyarusso: likewise
[03:17] <djtansey> nemik: dunno the 700m. had the inspiron 8200... didn't work so well with the amount of traveling/backpacking i do
[03:17] <Phlosten> patrick24601, it is nice and simple, great for basic stuff, I found that gftp had problems with transferring large files, or lots of files
[03:17] <djtansey> amphi: i am worried about lenovo, too. i know they're tryign to compete with dell/other cheaper laptops. i just hope they don't sacrifice their enterprise quality stuff
[03:18] <nemik> djtansey: 8200 was terrible. all my friends hate theirs. large and many problems. 700m seems much better built; but its still a dell
[03:18] <amphi> djtansey: with any luck they'll use their own brand for that, and making the tanks for them as wants 'em
[03:18] <amphi> tonyyarusso: heh; adding windows keys would be a disaster ;)
[03:19] <nemik> amphi i agree completely. thinkpads are legendary; i would hate to see them sink to the level of dells/hps/compaqs
[03:19] <tonyyarusso> amphi: They already did!  I mentioned that I think.
[03:19] <djtansey> nemik: ah. well, i guess there is hope yet.
[03:19] <tonyyarusso> Or so I hear.
[03:19] <amphi> tonyyarusso: even shipping them with freedos if they can't ship 'naked' (stupid MS term) boxes
[03:19] <djtansey> amphi: hopefully.
[03:19] <amphi> tonyyarusso: on the thinkpads?
[03:20] <nemik> naked pc's? i sure hope the FCC is on top of this....
[03:20] <cowlikk> hello
[03:20] <nemik> hello
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> amphi: I sent a follow-up e-mail three days later when I heard the Chinese announcement, recommending something small and free like DSL as an easy way to comply with the law and still offer choice.
[03:20] <cowlikk> help me
[03:20] <narg> what is the best way to get a diff in cvs between the last 2 versions?
[03:20] <amphi> nemik: yeah, it'd be sad;have to resort to one of these then, I suppose ;) http://www.tadpolecomputer.com/html/products/mobile/bullfrog-dual/
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> amphi: I read that the Lenovo line has winkeys, not the current thinkpads.
[03:20] <nemik> what is wrong cowlikk?
[03:20] <amphi> tonyyarusso: phew ;)
[03:21] <cowlikk> i need sound on teamspeak and need to listen to music
[03:21] <cowlikk> but i cant
[03:21] <amphi> nemik: the 'naked pc' meme has been issuing from Redmond for a while now, and no, no one seems to care
[03:21] <nemik> amphi: a laptop with a sparc processor?!?! WTF?
[03:22] <Teh_b-rad> jyaaaaaay
[03:22] <cowlikk> hey brad
[03:22] <Teh_b-rad> what up cow
[03:22] <amphi> nemik: no, two ultrasparcs ;)
[03:22] <kiko0123> I don't understand i have my keyboard settinf set to Canadian multilingual and it dosent take effect at all....
[03:22] <Teh_b-rad> ahhh!!!! no hablar ingles!
[03:22] <nemik> amphi: that thing is insane. where can you drop of the depleted uranium?
[03:22] <cowlikk> POOOOF
[03:23] <King-of-no-pants> my connection to freenode keeps being reset
[03:23] <Protocol1> yo
[03:23] <amphi> nemik: heh - no trackpoint though ;(
[03:23] <nemik> cowlikk: you cannot listen to music? like mp3?
[03:23] <cowlikk> yes xmms + MP3 + TEAMSPEAK DONT WORK
[03:23] <nemik> amphi; yea mine doesn't have one either. got used to the pad though
[03:23] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: any idea on how I can stop gaim from starting with the computer?
[03:24] <nemik> cowlikk: what is teamspeak?
[03:24] <Nick5768> www.teamspeak.org
[03:24] <Teh_b-rad> gmmmm
[03:24] <Nick5768> it's a voip program
[03:24] <cowlikk> TALKING PROGRAM FOR GAMING WITH FREINDS
[03:24] <amphi> nemik: the pads are awful IMHO, I've disabled mine
[03:24] <Protocol1> teamspeak is a good program
[03:24] <cowlikk> YEAH VOIP
[03:24] <Teh_b-rad> we cannot run two audio applications at a time without one being unsupported
[03:24] <amphi> cowlikk: you could use the alsa dmix plugin perhaps
[03:24] <eggzeck> cowlikk, I don't know about teamspeak but mp3 does work
[03:24] <Mortuis> When I SSH into a computer, is there a way to pull a file from the remote computer into the computer I'm at?
[03:24] <nemik> King-of-no-pants: perhaps it is in /etc/init.d and you can just sudo rm to remove it.
[03:24] <amphi> Mortuis: man scp
[03:25] <Teh_b-rad> see previous cmment
[03:25] <Teh_b-rad> ^^
[03:25] <amphi> Mortuis: and you don't need to ssh into the remote first to scp files in either direction
[03:25] <Mortuis> amphi: thanks
[03:25] <nalioth> cowlikk: please turn off your caps lock
[03:25] <eggzeck> cowlikk, go to Options->Preferences and set the output plugin correctly
[03:25] <Teh_b-rad> neither of us can run two audio applications at the same time without one having an error
[03:25] <nemik> cowlikk: had that same problem with skype and mp3s. they just don't want to work simultaneously
[03:25] <eggzeck> cowlikk, you might need ALSA
[03:25] <Protocol1> how do I ssh a computer behind a router?
[03:26] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: surely gaim is not started by an init script? is not your gnome session or some such?
[03:26] <Warbo> Protocol1: Get the router to forward ports
[03:26] <Nick5768> Protocol1, port forwading?
[03:26] <Nick5768> warbo wins :(
[03:26] <jimcooncat> Protocol1, NAT the port through
[03:26] <tonyyarusso> nemik: I can't use Skype with any sounds at all.
[03:26] <Jinkguns> GAH STUPID encryptopajdajs
[03:26] <nemik> Protocol1: open the computer's ssh port on the router in the router's setup. what kind of router do you have?
[03:26] <Teh_b-rad> i've tried to change the output
[03:26] <King-of-no-pants> ammphi: i was shutting the system down, it asked me if I would like to save the current configuration, I said yes, now gaim opens on startup
[03:27] <Protocol1> nemik, its a dlink 4300
[03:27] <cowlikk> i have alsa i think
[03:27] <nemik> tonyyarusso: got it working once with both mic and calling. but right after that call; it goes to hell again
[03:27] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: that's gnome's session management, I presume
[03:27] <Warbo> King-of-no-pants: System-Prefs-Session-Startup Programs
[03:27] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: Ill presume that, too
[03:27] <invisage01> www.portforward.com will show you exactly how to do it Protocol1
[03:27] <amphi> cowlikk: you need to have both progs use the dmix alsa plugin
[03:27] <Warbo> King-of-no-pants: Should have been > not -
[03:27] <jimcooncat> Protocol1, once you get it working you might want to switch to something other than port 22
[03:27] <invisage01> Protocol1 just go to the routers section and find your router there
[03:27] <cowlikk> how do i make teamspeak do that
[03:28] <amphi> cowlikk: with a hammer?
[03:28] <Teh_b-rad> i've changed mine to alsa or esd.. when i go to alsa it says there is no pipeline
[03:28] <cowlikk> lol
[03:28] <Protocol1> invisage01, thanks for the information
[03:28] <King-of-no-pants> warbo: I figured it out ;)
[03:28] <cowlikk> i dont have a big enough hammer
[03:28] <Protocol1> i'll give it a shot
[03:28] <eggzeck> King-of-no-pants, yeah right, just thank him :P
[03:28] <King-of-no-pants> warbo: thank you
[03:28] <King-of-no-pants> eggzeck: thank you
[03:29] <amphi> cowlikk: the downside of dmix is it introduces quite a lot of latency, at least for me
[03:29] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: thank you
[03:29] <Warbo> eggzeck: NP (eggzeck: I was guiding him telepathically)
[03:29] <UbuntuNewbie> hello everyone
[03:29] <eggzeck> Warbo: lol.
[03:29] <cowlikk> how do i do that
[03:29] <Warbo> oops, np for King-of-no-pants
[03:29] <amphi> King-of-no-pants: ?
[03:29] <nemik> hehe i like his name too
[03:30] <Warbo> UbuntuNewbie: Hello
[03:30] <rukuartic> !seen axemen|Thomas
[03:30] <rukuartic> Zut.
[03:30] <newuser> looking for a quick way to enable/disable pppoe.
[03:30] <nalioth> rukuartic: don't do that in here, please
[03:30] <Trixy> hey all, I'm new to Ubuntu though I've been a Debian user for awhile. I just did a dist-upgrade to Dapper from Breezy, and I can't seem to get my Geforce 6800 gt working in X. I keep getting the standard newbie "screens found, but none have a useable configuration" message.
[03:30] <Xenguy> newuser: pon/poff ?
[03:31] <King-of-no-pants> amphi: it started crashing when I moved the computer downstairs, that was when I started using the WLAN, I'm disabling the WLAN and going to LAN, maybe that could be it
[03:31] <jadaz87> !tell Trixy about dapper
[03:31] <rukuartic> nalioth: Social fauxpaus? Sorry btw...
[03:31] <Warbo> Trixy: Get rid of nvidia driver and install it from scratch
[03:31] <Trixy> ah, so for dapper help I should head to ubuntu+1?
[03:31] <nalioth> rukuartic: this is a channel for help, not !seen (try in #ubuntu-offtopic)
[03:31] <newuser> Xenguy: k thanks will give that a try.