[06:43] <jetole> Ho^Oh: thanks for the kind words :-P
[06:43] <bazhang> sinux, whats the link
[06:43] <jetole> ah I'm still young. It's just that I started out when I was a kid
[06:43] <sinux> bazhang, http://www.swarnavahini.lk/autoweekend/player.php?videoid=10000028&partid=2
[06:43] <cryptodira> jetole, you were correct!   i failed to do the server route.... This appears to be working.... Thank YOU for your time and effort!!
[06:44] <sinux> thats the player link on the web
[06:44] <jetole> cryptodira: no worries. glad it worked
[06:44] <sindile> escott: i just pressed Windows-Key + P and the problem has dissapeared and the resolutions of the primary and secondary are different. This after reading this post - http://design.canonical.com/2011/12/improving-the-multi-monitor-experience-in-ubuntu/
[06:44] <sinux> bazhang, I got this after looking in to the HTML of the page rtmp://<IP_ADDRESS>:80/securetoken&file=mp4:autoweekend/20120122AWC02.f4v
[06:46] <rodhash_> jetole, So.. recently there was an upgrade, what may have caused this issue... is there any way to roll back those upgrades ??
[06:46] <escott> sinux, have you tried just swapping an http or https in for the rtmp
[06:46] <sinux> escott, nope
[06:46] <jetole> rodhash_: the answer is yes and I don't know how. sorry but I know it can be done
[06:47] <escott> sinux, its serving out of port 80 its worth a try
[06:47] <sinux> in RTMPDump is it
[06:47] <rodhash_> Anyone, any idea?? How to roll back an upgrade ??
[06:47] <pc> alguien que sepa español e ingles
[06:47] <escott> !es | pc
[06:47] <jetole> rodhash_: but... probably not worth it anyhow, a lot of other programs rely on that certain programs which they depend on is at least version X.Y and it may lead to future upgrade problems. Best probably just to edit the mplayer config file
[06:48] <bazhang> rodhash_, why would you think of trying that? whats the issue
[06:48] <mac_osx> Hi all, anyone offer a little / LOT of advice? Serious problem.
[06:48] <Ho^Oh> rodhash_: Ubuntu isn't Windows, you don't downgrade generally, but if you feel like working hard, there is a way. It depends on how exactly you upgraded in the first place.
[06:48] <sinux> And the media sever is Wowza Media Server Pro Unlimited 1.7.2 build12107
[06:48] <bazhang> mac_osx, related to ubuntu? go ahead
[06:48] <cfhowlett> !ask|mac_osx
[06:48] <Ho^Oh> mac_osx: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[06:49] <jetole> rodhash_: the servers I admin, I had to install a custom compiled libldap and place a hold on it so that it would not be upgraded and this lead to a future issue which required future debugging
[06:49] <mac_osx> bazhang I've been badly hacked
[06:49] <rodhash_> bazhang, Because it sound stopped again, and even specifying "-ao alsa" it's not working any longer... also the compiz become unstable, it keeps re-starting too frequently... :(
[06:49]  * Ho^Oh wonders if mac_osx is trolling. Or paranoid. :S
[06:49] <bazhang> mac_osx, what makes you think that; what version of ubuntu are you on, what evidence do you have for that
[06:49] <mac_osx> I can't access the root, my Ubuntu CD drive is gone, Windows CD drive is gone, and bios cd drive is gone
[06:49] <jetole> rodhash_: ah I didn't know the sound stopped again
[06:49] <sinux> The only app that worked with this is a windows only shareware app called replay media catcher thats the only thing that worked but only 1/2 th file is get able
[06:49] <mac_osx> I'm on 11.10
[06:50] <rodhash_> jetole, It just happened .. :(
[06:50] <cfhowlett> mac_osx: on a mac?
[06:50] <mac_osx> No Ubuntu, the profile is mac_lookalike
[06:50] <omac> mac_osx:  use your 11.10 live CD and boot from your CD drive for starters.  Then mount your hard drive.
[06:50] <pc> i need help to translate inglish to spanish
[06:50] <mac_osx> Can no longer use CDs
[06:50] <jetole> rodhash_: when the sound stops, click on the volume icon in the tray and select "sound preferences...." then click on the applications tab and see if you can see what is doing what
[06:50] <bazhang> mac_osx, what do you mean you "can't access the root"  <---- what are you trying to achieve
[06:50] <omac> if you can't mount your hard drive partitions, then I'll believe you've been hacked.
[06:50] <jetole> rodhash_: which version of ubuntu
[06:50] <jetole> ?
[06:51] <cfhowlett> pc: what do you mean?
[06:51] <rodhash_> 11.10
[06:51] <mac_osx> I had three profiles on my Ubuntu partition, Now there are five
[06:51] <Ho^Oh> I thought getting hacked these days are impossible.
[06:51] <omac> mac_osx: do you have a burned live DVD of UBUNTU?
[06:51] <jetole> omac: there are a dozen+ reasons why you can't mount a partition
[06:51] <mac_osx> I no longer have root privilages
[06:51] <bazhang> pc : translate.google.com ?
[06:51] <bazhang> mac_osx, you never did
[06:51] <cfhowlett> mac_osx: omac gave you a suggestion to start with...
[06:51] <pc> human translate
[06:51] <pc> google is bad
[06:52] <jetole> rodhash_: well aside from what I mentioned with the tray and volume icon I don't know what else to suggest.
[06:52] <mac_osx> Yes I have the CD, but my computer no longer acknowledges CDs
[06:52] <jetole> rodhash_: I've been deaf for 5 years
[06:52] <bazhang> pc for what? is this something related to ubuntu ?
[06:52] <omac> do you have a usb port?  could you attach an external DVD-DRIVE to your computer and boot from that via a usb-boot
[06:52] <mac_osx> I can't even boot from the CD drive anymore
[06:52] <jetole> rodhash_: plus I use 10.04
[06:53] <cfhowlett> pc: where do you live?  maybe there's a support group nearby...
[06:53] <Ho^Oh> mac_osx: On linux, there is no suchthing as "an admin" account.                                   It's about different levels of file and directory(folder) access.          And then there is just that generic root account that can magically do anything.
[06:53] <pc> see you later
[06:53] <jetole> rodhash_: my ~/.mplayer/config file has a line that reads: nosound=1
[06:53] <jetole> pc
[06:53] <omac> mac_osx?  what do you mean? is your dvd/cd drive not working because it's old? Or do you mean the hack disabled it?
[06:53] <mac_osx> I tried to mount the root through the terminal using commands, but it said I don't have privilages
[06:53] <jetole> how long have you been using freenode to have registered the name pc?
[06:54] <mac_osx> Yes, the hacker disabled it, I presume so that I couldn't get him out
[06:54] <jetole> pc: how long have you been using freenode to have registered the name pc?
[06:54] <pc> pc is any computer any os ? you know
[06:54] <bazhang> jetole, lets stick to ubuntu support please
[06:54] <Ho^Oh> mac_osx: I do not believe you're hacked.            Type in the word: sudo         before any command you do to perform administrative tasks.
[06:54] <cfhowlett> pc where do you live?
[06:54] <mac_osx> I did
[06:55] <pc> i want to stay anon
[06:55] <omac> ok then, just reboot the computer with a live DVD and then use the special key for booting from the DVD.
[06:55] <cfhowlett> not address city, country
[06:55] <jetole> bazhang: I've been pretty helpful. I can't ask a user about his name?
[06:55] <Ho^Oh> It's the same password as your regular user account.
[06:55] <mac_osx> I got the help from a link Ubuntu forums sent me to because they don't give root advice
[06:55] <Ho^Oh> mac_osx: What's the exact command you typed, and the exact error message?
[06:55] <omac> macOSX: what kind of hardware?   (Unless you go through a guide that will discourage you from trying to make it possible to login as root, but it's possible).
[06:57] <Ho^Oh> !language | Frijolenstein
[06:57] <omac> ho^oh it is not impossible:  just do a "sudo bash" and you will be in root.
[06:58] <mac_osx> when starting up, I hit Del to get into the bios and change the boot order, but it says only the Hard drive is bootable, it shows no CD drive
[06:58] <omac> the same can be achieved as "su -l root" in Debian.
[06:58] <bazhang> it's not supported here. and it's disabled by default
[06:58] <damo2222> mac_osx: what kind of pc is it
[06:58] <Ho^Oh> omac: I know that. My preferred method is sudo su (Switch user).
[06:58] <xgt001> hello, is there a backport for unity 5.2 for oneiric?
[06:58] <Ho^Oh> But it's not something I would want to teach ;)
[06:59] <bazhang> xgt001, good question, there is more than likely to be a PPA before a backport
[06:59] <Igramul> Hi, because of a file system inconsistency, I lost parts of /var/lib/dpkg. Is there a way to rebuild that directory?
[06:59] <mac_osx> OK sorry, I'm in as root
[06:59] <Afdal> Hey all
[06:59] <xgt001> bazhang, so right now there are no ppa's to i guess? coz the unity-staging ppa wont work in oneiric
[06:59] <omac> mac_osx, there is a special way of adding a boot device in the bios.  look for it and you will have  menu that shows that you have a DVD/CD drive.  The proof is that when you boot, the BIOS detects and displays the kinds of devices i.e. (name of DVD/CD device) that you have.
[06:59] <mac_osx> damo, it's a Dell
[06:59] <Afdal> Does anyone know the mount point name for a floppy in ubuntu?
[07:00] <damo2222> Afdal: /dev/fd0
[07:00] <bazhang> xgt001, I dont directly know of one, just pointing that out
[07:00] <jetole> Ho^Oh: if your a room admin then run /last Frijolenstein and then kick ban the user
[07:00] <omac> mac_osx: once you add the device to the boot list, then you can change the boot order to the cd/DVD device first, before the hard drive.
[07:00] <Afdal> I'm trying to make a grub booter from a floppy and it keeps telling me /media/floppy does not exist
[07:00] <jetole> Ho^Oh: he wasn't referring to engineers as I initially thought
[07:00] <bazhang> jetole, he's long gone
[07:00] <Ho^Oh> Thanks to bazhang :D
[07:00] <jetole> bazhang: I know but just wanted to make sure he stays gone. Thanks
[07:00] <Afdal> damo2222: So it should be "mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy" right?
[07:01] <mac_osx> omac, can you tell me why I have another user and can't access the CD drive anymore? Is it the hack?
[07:01] <damo2222> Afdal: actually you probably need something like /dev/fd0u1440
[07:01] <Afdal> "mount: mount point /media/floppy does not exist"
[07:01] <Igramul> Afdal, You'll need the dirctory /media/floppy as mount point.
[07:01] <cfhowlett> mac_osx: I JUST received my replacement dvd drive today.  Here's what to do: boot and go into the bios.  From there run diagnostics.  If you get an error on your dvd test self-test 0147, remove and reseat the drive.  test again.  If it fails again, replace the drive.  or so the web informs me.
[07:01] <mac_osx> omac, I'll do as you say. Thanks
[07:01] <Igramul> Afdal, "sudo mkdir /media/floppy"
[07:01] <escott> mac_osx, sounds like you messed up your groups. what groups are you a member of? did you perhaps run usermod -G without -a?
[07:01] <Afdal> You have to make the directory before you mount it?
[07:01] <Ho^Oh> Afdal: mount /media/fd0
[07:02] <Ho^Oh> And yes you have to if you want it to be at a specific directory
[07:02] <Ho^Oh> Otherwise, do nto use the second parameter.
[07:02] <mac_osx> escott, I don't think so, but I pissed off someone who is a hacker
[07:02] <Afdal> thanks, that seems to have worked
[07:03] <mac_osx> Ho Oh, omac, escott thank you all
[07:03] <Afdal> "mount: mount point /media/floppy does not exist
[07:03] <Afdal> "
[07:04] <Ho^Oh> mac_osx: You're on linux for goodness sakes, I can not imagine you ever getting hacked, Desktop version, you cant even ssh to it without installing an ssh daemon
[07:04] <Afdal> err
[07:04] <Afdal> root@ubuntu:/boot/grub# cp stage1 stage2 /media/floppy/boot/grub
[07:04] <Afdal> cp: cannot stat `stage1': No such file or directory
[07:04] <Afdal> cp: cannot stat `stage2': No such file or directory
[07:04] <Afdal> What am I doing wrong here?
[07:04] <Afdal> I'm on Xubuntu Live right now
[07:04] <mac_osx> I hope I'm wrong
[07:04] <omac> AFDA:
[07:04] <omac> Afdal: are you still there?
[07:04] <Afdal> Yeah
[07:05] <TheAncientGoat> Ho^Oh: Not really a safe stance to take "I'm safe because I'm on Linux"
[07:05] <Ho^Oh> TheAncientGoat: I know.
[07:05] <Ho^Oh> But darn, behind a router and such...
[07:05] <omac> create a directory:  /mnt/floppy....mkdir -p /mnt/floppy
[07:05] <escott> Afdal, don't think you can just copy grub stages to a floppy and expect it to be bootable. are you following instructions from somewhere?
[07:05] <Ho^Oh> You have to be doing something extremely weird to be hackable.
[07:05] <Afdal> Yeah, I think this guide might be outdated, for GRUB 1
[07:05] <TheAncientGoat> Ho^Oh: Most routers are uselessly insecure
[07:05] <TheAncientGoat> default passwords etc
[07:05] <omac> Afdal:  then do a mount:   mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
[07:06] <omac> that should do the trick.
[07:06] <Ho^Oh> Or if a person has physical "In person"  access to your computer.
[07:06] <Afdal> yeah I got it mounted omac
[07:06] <Afdal> I can't seem to figure out out to actually get the bootloader onto the floppy now
[07:06] <TheAncientGoat> Yeah, then you pretty much can't do anything other than encrypt your hd, but then you have to look at keyloggers etc
[07:06] <Ho^Oh> TheAncientGoat: But darn, people should've been set those up (Good point though, so many passwordless routers in my neighborhood. xD)
[07:06] <Afdal> I'm following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy, but I think that might not apply for GRUB2
[07:07] <TheAncientGoat> I'm paranoid, so I can think up all these bizzare hacking scenarios, but I'm too lazy to do anything about it :P
[07:07] <escott> Afdal, it doesn't work for grub2
[07:07] <AndrewMac_> whats the default sound system that comes with ubuntu? alsa? pulse audio?
[07:07] <Afdal> Can anyone help me with making this for grub2 then?
[07:07] <bazhang> AndrewMac_, pulse
[07:07] <diuneigh> Jetole: YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! I finally got it..
[07:07] <Afdal> I can't find any guides for that
[07:08] <omac> Afdal: what is your last successful step?
[07:08] <Rurd2di> i killed samba service,
[07:08] <Rurd2di> how to i start it again?
[07:08] <Rurd2di> whats the command?
[07:08] <escott> Afdal, i would try grub-install --allow-floppy /dev/fd0 --boot-directory /media/floppy
[07:08] <Afdal> I have the floppy mounted and I'm in its /media/floppy/boot/grub directory I made
[07:09] <omac> service samba restart
[07:09] <escott> Afdal, and thats assuming you have a kernel in /media/floppy
[07:09] <Ho^Oh> Or service samba start
[07:09] <Afdal> uh...
[07:09] <jetole> pangolin: so I finially finished reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. When you say not to use asterisks to censor myself, are you referring to off-topic or was it the context I used it in where you felt that I might be harassing or inciting harassment because I got the impression from that I shouldn't swear at all even if I am censoring myself in doing so and making sure that my obscenity isn't seen by anyone but I didn't see any mention of ...
[07:09] <jetole> ... this on the page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines that lead me to believe I shouldn't do so. I saw that I shouldn't obfuscate obscene words but self censoring is very different from obfuscation where it can be said to be obfuscation if I use a swear word but I replace a letter with a similar number or if I use some local slang to say a swear word but spell it in a manner that is not the normal spelling but censoring myself seems rather ...
[07:09] <escott> Afdal, where is your kernel going to reside?
[07:09] <urlin2u> diuneigh, you get in with your saved key?
[07:09] <jetole> ... different and it's something I even see common TV stations with shows rated for all audiences doing so long story short, I'm not sure which part of the guidelines I was in violation of and I want to make sure I know so I don't do it again and wind up getting kicked out of the room
[07:09] <jetole> diuneigh: glad it worked out. could you elaborate so I know what happened?
[07:09] <bazhang> jetole, augh
[07:09] <Afdal> My kernal is on a dmraid partition
[07:10] <Rurd2di> cheers Ho^Oh
[07:10] <AndrewMac_> bazhang: something i randomly (like a baws) apt-gett'd trying to work with a sound lib has destroyed my sound, whats the best way to reconfigure pulse?
[07:10] <Afdal> I just need a boot floppy so I can get in and install GRUB natively
[07:10] <escott> Afdal, and you need the boot floopy because the dmraid is messing up the mbr
[07:10] <bazhang> jetole, #ubuntu-ops to discuss please rather than pasting here
[07:10] <Afdal> Because grub really hates raid D:<
[07:10] <jetole> bazhang: well he asked me to read the guidelines when he assumed I used a swear word but replaced it with asterisks so now I don't know what I did wrong after reading the guidelines
[07:10] <omac> Afdal...you aren't supposed to be in the boot grub directory that you made.
[07:10] <diuneigh> Urlin2U not exactly... my login password..
[07:10] <Afdal> <.<
[07:11] <jetole> bazhang: will be there in a minute. Want to chat with diuneigh first who I was helping out earlier
[07:11] <omac> Afdal, you are supposed to be on your hard drive.
[07:11] <diuneigh> Jetole:  I kept googling for answers... stumbled on to http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2011/04/introducing-ecryptfs-recover-private.html
[07:11] <omac> cd /boot/grub
[07:11] <Afdal> Well...
[07:11] <Ho^Oh> omac: Raid setup messed Afdal apparently.
[07:11] <diuneigh> Jetole: just kept playing around with it....
[07:11] <Afdal> I'm having a lot of trouble getting grub to install on that
[07:11] <escott> Afdal, you may find more expertise in #grub, but i would think that you would want some variant of grub-install --allow-floppy --boot-directory=/media/floppy /dev/fd0
[07:11] <omac> then...copy files to your floppy directories.
[07:11] <jetole> diuneigh: will read now but what did you do?
[07:11] <Afdal> So for now I'm just trying to get grub up somewhere so I can actually boot
[07:11] <omac> cp stage1 stage2 /media/floppy/boot/grub
[07:11] <Afdal> I'm tired of tinkering around on a Live OS
[07:11] <bazhang> AndrewMac_, no idea what you installed? what about pavucontrol to configure it
[07:12] <diuneigh> Jetole: that website worked for me...  now I will mount my other drive and copy the files..
[07:12] <AndrewMac_> bazhang: not at this stage, it was a while back and i just restarted the pc :/
[07:12] <diuneigh> Jetole:  you got me in the right direction.
[07:12] <AndrewMac_> (so something that takes effect only after a restart)
[07:12] <urlin2u> Afdal, you tried supergrub or reloading the grub bootloader to the mbr
[07:12] <bazhang> AndrewMac_, first off, before you install or remove anything is check in alsamixer and see that nothing is muted
[07:13] <escott> omac, those files won't exist if Afdal is using grub2 (which is the case if he has a new ubuntu install)
[07:13] <AndrewMac_> pavucontrol gives me connection failed
[07:13] <jetole> diuneigh: yeah I just read that. It's pretty informative while brief but I didn't see that on the ubuntu wiki page I was reading earlier and it probably should be
[07:13] <AndrewMac_> alsamixer gives me "cannot open mixer: No such file or directory"
[07:13] <omac> then afdal shouldn't be following that recipe then.
[07:13] <diuneigh> Jetole: I typed sudo ecryptfs-recover-private and followed the prompt.. entered my login password and it worked..
[07:13] <jetole> diuneigh: my advice still stands. Unless you live with the gestapo or live in china or plan on hacking the cia/fbi/dod/etc then, if I were you, I would remove the enctypted /home dir
[07:14] <Afdal> Yeah I'm on Xubuntu 11.10
[07:14] <urlin2u> Afdal, http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[07:14] <diuneigh> jetole: after I get my files back.. I will reinstall ubuntu...
[07:14] <jetole> diuneigh: I'll be back in a bit. Gonna join #ubuntu-ops so PM me if you need anything
[07:14] <jetole> diuneigh: cool
[07:15] <jetole> diuneigh: again, glad it all worked out
[07:15] <diuneigh> Jetole: will do.. thanks again!!!
[07:15] <Afdal> What do I do with this supergrubdisk iso urlin2u?
[07:16] <xharx__> is there a way to avoid tearing in ubuntu ? http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tearing
[07:16] <omac> grub-install /dev/fd0
[07:17] <escott> Afdal, you are going to have a hard time getting grub to boot off a floppy. grub2 base module set is 4.3MB. use something like the iso and a cd or usb
[07:17] <urlin2u> Afdal, it boots a OS that is broken, small download worth a try. YOU can also reload the grub bootloader to the mbr, we also have a script you can run that will tell what is where in the OS
[07:17] <Afdal> I don't want grub on the MBR though
[07:17] <xharx__> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_tearing
[07:17] <Afdal> Because I'm doing a dual linux windows boot
[07:17] <Afdal> and I want to be able to select GRUB at Window's boot.ini
[07:18] <urlin2u> Afdal, you can't boot windows then, you can use esaybcd to boot ubuntu from the windows boot.
[07:18] <urlin2u> Afdal, use easybcd
[07:19] <AndrewMac_> bazhang: here is the output of alsa-info.sh -> http://pastebin.com/AzqtRAr1
[07:19] <Afdal> What is easybcd?
[07:19] <omac> dd if=GRUB2.img of=/dev/fd0
[07:19] <omac> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305475
[07:19] <omac> afdal:  did you try that one?
[07:20] <Afdal> "dd if=GRUB2.img of=/dev/fd0"?
[07:20] <urlin2u> Afdal, it is a app that willboot other OS's from the windows boot menu.  http://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/
[07:20] <omac> afdal: yes.
[07:20] <urlin2u> Afdal, to be honest the floppy is a waste of time easybcd will do what you want.
[07:20] <Afdal> Someone said grub2 is too large for a floppy anyway omac
[07:21] <Chipzzz> AndrewMac_: "sudo apt-get install alsa-base"
[07:21] <omac> there are reports of grub2 on floppy being successful.
[07:21] <omac> note the url mentioned above.
[07:21] <urlin2u> Afdal, here is the free one
[07:21] <urlin2u> http://neosmart.net/
[07:21] <escott> Afdal, also since you are using dmraid you presumably have some kind of fakeraid/biosraid going on. have you confirmed that this will be bootable?
[07:21] <Afdal> urlin2u, FIRST, I need to deal with this error I'm getting when trying to install grub on this raid partition
[07:21] <Afdal> I don't know how I would confirm that :(
[07:22] <urlin2u> Afdal, I didn't pick up the raid never mind.
[07:22] <AndrewMac_> Chipzzz: already installed
[07:22] <Afdal> And to do that I'm following this guide, which says I apparently first need to get into my linux natively
[07:23] <JiggyBlkMn> I fucking hate niggers!
[07:23] <escott> Afdal, determine what version of fakeraid you have and do some googling. but you will have issues if you are stripping because the bootloader needs to understand the raid well enough to reconstruct the kernel and initrd, and the kernel needs to have the dmraid drivers in the initrd so it can find the root fs
[07:23] <Afdal> I'm on the Live OS right now
[07:23] <JiggyBlkMn> That is why I joined Chimpout Forum!
[07:23] <JiggyBlkMn> Niggers are the scum of the earth!
[07:23] <JiggyBlkMn> Average Human IQ 199
[07:23] <JiggyBlkMn> 100
[07:23] <FloodBot1> JiggyBlkMn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:23] <JiggyBlkMn> I mean
[07:23] <Afdal> I'm using raid0
[07:23] <ubuntuaddicted> JiggyBlkMn,  !spam
[07:23] <ubuntuaddicted> JiggyBlkMn, !spam
[07:23] <Chipzzz> AndrewMac_: evidently, from your pastebin, something got uninstalled or misconfigured. I'd just reinstall, but it's up to you.
[07:23] <omac> afdal:  there are versions of dd for windows and other os's if that's your obstacle.
[07:23] <JiggyBlkMn> Average nigger iq 85
[07:23] <Afdal> dd?
[07:24] <escott> Afdal, in that case your chances are much better that this could work
[07:24] <ubuntuaddicted> can we get this racial slurring guy out of here please
[07:24] <JiggyBlkMn> Niggers lack the neanderthal dna that everybody else has
[07:24] <escott> Afdal, don't worry about dd. just use easybcd
[07:24] <JiggyBlkMn> they aren't human
[07:24] <JiggyBlkMn> Join Chimpout Forum today!
[07:24] <FloodBot1> JiggyBlkMn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:24] <omac> afdal what os are you running to create your image.
[07:24] <JiggyBlkMn> The best niggerhating forum on the internet
[07:24] <Afdal> okay X.X
[07:24] <escott> Afdal, or try and install grub onto a usb stick
[07:24] <ubuntuaddicted> seriously, there's no mod in here?
[07:24] <ubuntuaddicted> thanks
[07:24] <Afdal> I don't wanna use my only usb stick for that
[07:24] <Ho^Oh> ubuntuaddicted: They are here.
[07:24] <Afdal> If I can't make this floppy I'll just burn a CD
[07:25] <urlin2u> ubuntuaddicted, there are two that I know of.
[07:25] <Slicks> Sup
[07:25] <Ho^Oh> Hi Slicks.
[07:25] <Slicks> how are you.
[07:25] <omac> gn
[07:26] <AndrewMac_> Chipzzz: you'd reinstall everything?
[07:26] <Chipzzz> AndrewMac_: sure, why not?
[07:27] <urlin2u> Afdal, In rember talking to you in ubuntu-beginners you have randomly spread grub files across your set might you share that with people helping you.
[07:28] <Slicks> This is fucked.
[07:28] <escott> Afdal, also what is your goal? is there any reason you cant do what you need to do from inside a chroot?
[07:28] <Slicks> google owns youtube.
[07:28] <Slicks> facebook
[07:28] <FloodBot1> Slicks: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:28] <Slicks> owns google.
[07:28] <bazhang> Slicks, watch the language, stay on topic
[07:28] <Slicks> Whats the topic lol.
[07:28] <bazhang> Slicks, ubuntu support
[07:28] <Afdal> So I'm trying grub-mkrescue --overlay=/boot/grub --image-type=floppy GRUB2.img
[07:28] <Slicks> And does shit and others count as swears?
[07:28] <Slicks> or just the F word.
[07:28] <bazhang> Slicks, yes
[07:29] <Slicks> Ehh.
[07:29] <urlin2u> escott, can I PM you?
[07:29] <escott> urlin2u, sure
[07:29] <bazhang> Slicks, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:29] <Afdal> And it says "output file must be given
[07:29] <Afdal> "
[07:29] <pangolin> Slicks: they do, please don't.
[07:29] <AndrewMac_> Chipzzz: cause i have a bunch of things setup on this machine :/ and i was hoping there was just a way to get the sound driver back
[07:29] <diuneigh> how to copy directores in terminal?
[07:29] <Ben64> cp -R
[07:29] <escott> Afdal, -o GRUB2.img
[07:30] <Afdal> Same error
[07:30] <diuneigh> Ben64: does it matter if R or r?
[07:30] <escott> diuneigh, no
[07:31] <Ben64> diuneigh: not for cp, other programs it does matter, i suggest you look at the manual pages for more information. like this "man cp"
[07:31] <diuneigh> escott: can I copy read only files?  I ask because I tried and it said cp cannot open
[07:31] <Afdal> Tried "grub-mkrescue --overlay=/boot/grub --image-type=floppy --output=GRUB2.img" too
[07:31] <Afdal> What else do I need here?
[07:31] <diuneigh> Ben64 and escott: ok.. thanks.
[07:31] <escott> diuneigh, you can only copy files that you can access
[07:31] <Ben64> diuneigh: if you don't have permission to read you cannot copy
[07:32] <escott> Afdal, grub-mkrescue is not something im familiar with, that looks like a valid command based on a cursory glance at the man page. i would suggest that what you are trying to do is probably not necessary
[07:33] <diuneigh> escott: if I can see them does that mean I can access them?  the encryption program put them in a temp dir as read only.
[07:33] <Afdal> :(
[07:33] <escott> Afdal, assuming you are in a livecd almost any grub issue can be fixed via chroot. and if that can't fix it then it might just be that this dmraid setup is not bootable
[07:33] <Afdal> What is chroot?
[07:34] <Ben64> !info chroot
[07:34] <Ben64> :(
[07:34] <escott> !grub | Afdal this tutorial (used to have?) has chroot instructions for restoring grub
[07:34] <Afdal> :'(
[07:34] <diuneigh> escott: INFO: Success!  Private data mounted read-only at [/tmp/ecryptfs.6XroXADI].
[07:35] <Chipzzz> AndrewMac_: install doesn't upset your configuration unless you use the --reinstall option, so "sudo apt-get install alsa-base" is safe for your purposes
[07:35] <escott> diuneigh, ok what are the permissions on that folder?
[07:35] <escott> Afdal, and of course it doesn't because removing documentation is always a good idea. i'll see if i can find instructions online
[07:35] <diuneigh> escott: don't know.. how to check?
[07:35] <Afdal> That guide says nothing about chroot
[07:36] <Afdal> oh
[07:36] <escott> Afdal, so this is a bit terse but it has all the parts that are needed http://zeldor.biz/2010/12/install-grub-from-chroot/
[07:37] <escott> Afdal, the only changes you might make to that are that you evidently want to be installing to the pbr instead of the mbr so you would say /dev/sda# where # is your ubuntu partition. grub will likely complain so you would have to force it
[07:37] <Afdal> Okay, I'll try that now escott
[07:37] <Ho^Oh> How can I know if my server is capable of HARDWARE RAID 0?
[07:37] <Afdal> No, not sd#
[07:37] <Afdal> RAID partitions are read as dev/mapper/blahblah
[07:37] <escott> Afdal, and you probably need to mkdir /mnt since it won't exist on your livecd and of course adjust /dev/sda1 to reference your ubuntu partition as well
[07:38]  * jetole goes back to #ubuntu
[07:38] <jetole> oops. wrong chan
[07:38] <escott> Afdal, right... for the mount command its going to be /dev/mapper for the grub install i have no idea
[07:38] <Afdal> Okay, I'll try that now escott
[07:38] <escott> diuneigh, ls -l /tmp/ecrypt[TAB]
[07:38] <Ho^Oh> jetole: Hehe, had fun?
[07:39] <Ho^Oh> WB.
[07:40] <Afdal> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ /mkdir /mnt
[07:40] <Afdal> bash: /mkdir: No such file or directory
[07:40] <escott> Afdal, and if you do setup a pbr boot you have to manually adjust the windows boot.ini if it fails to boot with a correct boot.ini then chances are that the dmraid is not bootable, and your life gets much harder
[07:40] <Afdal> I am very bad at BASH if you can't tell >.>
[07:40] <Afdal> Yeah I know about that bit escott
[07:40] <escott> Afdal, "sudo -i" first then "mkdir /mnt" then the commands in that tutorial
[07:41] <Oregon`> does usb-creator-gtk in ubuntu allow me to add NON linux OS's on a usb? Such as a windows Live disc using the Bart method?
[07:41] <Afdal> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo -i
[07:41] <Afdal> root@ubuntu:~# mkdir /mnt
[07:41] <Afdal> mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt': File exists
[07:41] <urlin2u> Oregon`, no which windows release is it?
[07:41] <Oregon`> urlin2u:  windows xp
[07:41] <escott> Afdal, cool then just keep going
[07:41] <szal> escott: that's assuming the Windows installation even has a boot.ini (which Win versions from Vista onward don't any more) ;)
[07:42] <escott> szal, shrug... the only boot i care about with windows is sending it out the window so...
[07:42] <diuneigh> Escott:  drwxr-xr-x  does that mean I can copy them?
[07:42] <Oregon`> szal: What about if I took my Xp disc and used usv-creator-gtk?
[07:42] <Oregon`> szal:  not a windows xp live disc but just regular xp?
[07:42] <escott> diuneigh, you should be able to read them which should be enough to copy them. what is the full command you are running
[07:42] <Oregon`> szal: I'd do it from windows but dont want to install it..
[07:43] <urlin2u> Oregon`, you have access to a windows machine admin I believe?
[07:43] <Afdal> root@ubuntu:~# mount /dev/mapper/nvidia_aeedagcb2
[07:43] <Afdal> mount: can't find /dev/mapper/nvidia_aeedagcb2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:43] <Oregon`> urlin2u:  I don't I only have ubuntu, the xp is for someone else
[07:43] <Afdal> /dev/mapper/nvidia_aeedagcb2 is the name of my raid linux boot partition
[07:43] <escott> Afdal, its not in fstab so you have to specify device and mountpoint "mount /dev/....     /mnt"
[07:43] <Afdal> oh silly me >.>
[07:44] <urlin2u> Oregon`, cool I have a app that loads a XP to a usb real easy in windows.
[07:44] <diuneigh> escott:  cp -r /path of files /path to copy  does that make sense?
[07:44] <escott> diuneigh, again the exact command please. I want to know if there is something funky in this (like a space or special character)
[07:45] <diuneigh> escott:  this may sound better    cp -r /source /destination
[07:45] <Oregon`> urlin2u: maybe I can just install xp in virtual box and then create the usb?
[07:45] <escott> diuneigh, and double check you have write permissions on the destination ls -ld /destination
[07:45] <diuneigh> escott: cp -r /tmp/ecryptfs.6XroXADI /media/win/temp/diuneigh/Test
[07:45] <urlin2u> Oregon`, if needed, this will only load a legit XP disc just saying. http://wintoflash.com/home/en/
[07:45] <Oregon`> urlin2u:  nevermind look what i found... http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[07:46] <diuneigh> escott:  I made a dir on my NTFS drive..
[07:46] <Oregon`> urlin2u:  believe it or not it actually is a legit cd
[07:46] <escott> diuneigh, are you writing to an ntfs partition? can you confirm it is mounted rw?
[07:46] <Afdal> root@ubuntu:/# /usr/sbin/grub-install --recheck --no-floppy /dev/mapper/nvidia_aeedagcb2
[07:46] <Afdal> /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a partitionless disk or to a partition.  This is a BAD idea..
[07:46] <Afdal> /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged..
[07:46] <Afdal> /usr/sbin/grub-setup: error: will not proceed with blocklists.
[07:47] <Afdal> Sorry for the spam
[07:47]  * Ho^Oh thinks it's a good idea for Afdal to use pastebin.org
[07:47] <urlin2u> Oregon`, windows 7 is different then XP, does not hurt to try I know about that you can do it without unetbootin by just exstracting a W7 disc to a ntfs with a boot flag, does not work with XP though
[07:47] <escott> Afdal, as i said earlier. grub will complain. you have been warned, but if you want to force it you can
[07:47] <diuneigh> escott: destination folder drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 48 2012-02-11 00:43 /media/win/temp/diuneigh/Test
[07:47] <Afdal> How can I force it?
[07:47] <escott> Afdal, see "man grub" look for "force"
[07:48] <Oregon`> urlin2u:  THANKS I assumed it would work with xp, you saved me some time
[07:48] <Afdal> uh...
[07:48] <Afdal> I'm confused
[07:48] <urlin2u> Oregon`, never worked for me I guess would be better syntax, the app I posted worked every time with XP though.
[07:48] <Afdal> man grub?
[07:48] <escott> !man | Afdal, in this case "man grub-install"
[07:48] <Afdal> Is that a terminal command?
[07:48] <Afdal> ah okay
[07:49] <diuneigh> escott: does that look ok?
[07:50] <escott> diuneigh, the destination folder is root owned. you should chown it to yourself
[07:50] <szal> that'll be a hard task to do on NTFS
[07:50] <llutz_> you cannot chown on ntfs, you need mount options (uid/gid) for that
[07:50] <Afdal> Okay so what I gather from that...   "/usr/sbin/grub-install --recheck --no-floppy /dev/mapper/nvidia_aeedagcb2 --force" is the right command?
[07:50] <escott> szal, llutz thanks
[07:51] <Afdal> No wait, "/usr/sbin/grub-install --recheck --no-floppy --force /dev/mapper/nvidia_aeedagcb2"?
[07:51] <escott> diuneigh, just see if you can "touch /destination/test" first
[07:51] <escott> Afdal, yep
[07:51] <diuneigh> escott: what does that mean it is root owned?  what is chown?
[07:51] <Afdal> Installation finished. No error reported.
[07:51] <Afdal> I hope that worked...
[07:52] <escott> diuneigh, its a red herring in this case i forgot i was dealing with windows ntfs
[07:52] <escott> !permissions | diuneigh
[07:53] <Afdal> Okay can anyone tell me if this guide won't work with grub2?  http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html
[07:53] <escott> Afdal, at this point grub is installed to the pbr
[07:53] <escott> Afdal, test it and see if it boots. nothing else to do
[07:54] <Afdal> It shouldn't boot
[07:54] <Afdal> right...  ?
[07:54] <Afdal> The goal is to go to Windows' NT loader first
[07:54] <Afdal> and then select GRUB from that
[07:54] <Afdal> If it boots I have a big problem
[07:55] <Afdal> Because I won't be able to get back into Windows to setup its boot.ini
[07:55] <Ho^Oh> How can I set up RAID 0, via, commandline?
[07:55] <escott> Afdal, right. i mean try and get windows to chainload the ubuntu partition
[07:55] <escott> !mdadm | Ho^Oh
[07:55] <Ho^Oh> I'm debootstrap installing ubuntu remotely.
[07:55] <Afdal> I need something else from Linux first
[07:56] <Afdal> before I go back to Windows and fiddle with boot.ini
[07:56] <escott> Ho^Oh, http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Migrate_to_RAID
[07:57] <Afdal> Now I need to make a copy of linux's boot sector
[07:57] <escott> Ho^Oh, you'll have to replace the various emerge commands with apt-get installs but its pretty straightforward
[07:59] <Afdal> Aww crap
[08:01] <diuneigh> escott: still working... will get back to you..
[08:01] <mcurran> Anyone know if there is a nvflash that works in ubuntu (i.e. i586)
[08:02] <diuneigh> how can I view hidden in nautilus on a live USB?  11.10?
[08:02] <Ho^Oh> escott: I do not know when in point of install to use these commands, would it be after I add a kernel to my system?
[08:03] <Afdal> How do I get root access in the File Manager?
[08:03] <escott> !gksudo | Afdal program name is nautilus
[08:03] <Ho^Oh> Afdal: gksudo nautilus
[08:03] <Ho^Oh> Assuming you're in gnome.
[08:03] <urlin2u> diuneigh, crtl-h
[08:03] <rymate1234> hai
[08:03] <escott> Ho^Oh, im not familiar enough with debbootstrap and is your root partition going to be raided?
[08:04] <Ho^Oh> escott: Yes.
[08:04] <Afdal> hmm
[08:04] <Afdal> I don't think Xubuntu's file manager is called Nautilus...
[08:04] <rymate1234> i think its thumar
[08:04] <rymate1234> thunar
[08:04] <Ho^Oh> Afdal: Then it's gksudo thunar
[08:04] <rymate1234> something likke that
[08:04] <Afdal> (gksudo:15827): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[08:04] <Ho^Oh> Or pcfileman
[08:05] <escott> Ho^Oh, so my guess and its only a guess. is that you install the kernel as usual, then install mdadm, then make sure mdadm is a loaded module on boot and update-initramfs
[08:05] <Afdal> Nope, not that either
[08:05] <Ho^Oh> Afdal: Try: sudo pcfileman &                         <------- With ampersand.
[08:05] <Ho^Oh> Forget gksudo
[08:05] <Afdal> sudo: pcfileman: command not found
[08:05] <Afdal> [1]+  Exit 1                  sudo pcfileman
[08:05] <piliakis> hello guys. Can someone try and help with a weird Unity glitch?
[08:06] <Afdal> Oh well forget
[08:06] <Afdal> it
[08:06] <urlin2u> piliakis, maybe shre .
[08:06] <Ho^Oh> Afdal: Then try the other file manager.
[08:06] <urlin2u> share*
[08:06] <piliakis> hello guys. Can someone try and help with a weird Unity glitch?
[08:06] <urlin2u> piliakis, ask the question and we will all know. :)
[08:06] <bullgard4> '~$ gedit /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.32/kernel/power/poweroff.c; /* * When the user hits Sys-Rq o to power down the machine this is the * callback we use. */ .'  --  What is hier meant by »callback«?
[08:06] <piliakis> Whenever I run a fullscreen game in WINE, most icons in notification area appear blurry and are unclickable
[08:07] <bentkus_> how the fuck did you past          so many spaces
[08:07] <bentkus_> o there i go
[08:07] <bentkus_> xD
[08:07] <FloodBot1> bentkus_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:07] <bentkus_> and sorry for the lang
[08:07] <bullgard4> !language | bentikus_
[08:07] <piliakis> here is a screenshot of the bug http://i44.tinypic.com/2lcl01w.jpg
[08:08] <piliakis> also all new programs that run afterwards appear like that in notification area
[08:08] <piliakis> only way to fix is restart session
[08:09] <escott> bullgard4, callbacks are (generally) function pointers called by an event handler to "callback" to the code that bound to the event
[08:10] <llutz_> bullgard4: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callback_(computer_programming)
[08:10] <escott> bullgard4, in this case poweroff.c is binding to a sysrq event which is handled by a kernel input event handler, and is giving it a function pointer that i is requesting be called when that key combination is pressed
[08:10] <Afdal> All right, I -think- that did it
[08:10] <rodhash_> Guys .. I just downloaded the chromium browser but I can't upgrade the flash plugin... how can I do that?
[08:10] <Afdal> I'm going to (hopefully) boot back into Windows to finish this up now.  Thanks for all the help everyone.
[08:10] <bullgard4> escott: I need a bit time to fully understand your explanation. --  Thank you for your explanation and help.
[08:11] <urlin2u> Afdal, good luck hope you up and running.
[08:11] <urlin2u> your
[08:11] <Afdal> Wish I could save these Firefox tabs from this Live session
[08:11] <diuneigh> urlin2u: thanks.
[08:12] <Afdal> Okay so
[08:12] <Afdal> Super Grub Disk 2
[08:12] <Afdal> And EasyBCD
[08:12] <urlin2u> Afdal, you can save the urls to leafpad and put them on a thumb
[08:12] <Afdal> Oh good idea
[08:13] <piliakis> anyone?
[08:13] <piliakis> :(
[08:14] <zyracksis> The only solution I can think of is to run EVE in a window, that never affects my desktop
[08:14] <rodhash_> anyone?? knows how to upgrade flash plugin on chrome?
[08:14] <urlin2u> piliakis, not a lot of wine users so it takes a bit longer.
[08:22] <Afdal> All right thanks and goodbye all
[08:22] <themonitor> yeah, don't whine ;)
[08:22] <themonitor> rodhash_: isn't flash built in? I don't think you can update it. It gets updated with chrome
[08:22] <zyracksis> piliakis: Is there some reason you can't run EVE in a window?
[08:23] <rodhash_> themonitor, Really?? But I just downloaded the chromium, and when I went to youtube it said the flash plugin needs to be updated
[08:23] <themonitor> rodhash_: Maybe it's not the case for chromium
[08:23] <auronandace> rodhash_: you said chrome earlier, chromium is different from chrome, chrome has flash builtin
[08:23] <arpitgoyal> i am connected or not
[08:23] <auronandace> arpitgoyal: yes you are
[08:23] <arpitgoyal> thanks auronandace
[08:24] <themonitor> rodhash_: I obviously don't know what I"m talking about.
[08:24] <arpitgoyal> i have a interest in image processing , and i am quite new to this
[08:26] <themonitor> rodhash_: You'll have to uninstall flash from the repos. Then, download flash from flash.com and install it manually.
[08:27] <piliakis> zyracksis, I'm on laptop so desktop size is an issue
[08:27] <szal> arpitgoyal: do you have an actual question?
[08:27] <ch_> hi
[08:28] <zyracksis> piliakis: It's probably an issue with wine not telling unity that the program has closed properly. If you get wine to emulate a virtual desktop, then run eve fullscreen in that, you shouldn't lose that much desktop space. Not much more I can help with, sorry
[08:29] <auronandace> piliakis: wine has issues with compiz
[08:30] <bullgard4> llutz_: Thank you for providing me this link. I need some time and research to comprehend.
[08:30] <hp__> hello am i connected
[08:30] <themonitor> hp__: yes
[08:30] <hp__> i wanted to ask u regarding using bittorrent using proxy server
[08:31] <piliakis> zyracksis, I tried the virtual desktop, same result... :(
[08:31] <hp__> how can i configure my bittorrent or i need to use other software
[08:31] <themonitor> hp__: if you're asking me personally. I rarely use BT
[08:31] <piliakis> is there any way to restart the notification area without logging out then?
[08:32] <hp__> ok then what should i use _the monitor
[08:32] <hp__> themonitor
[08:32] <themonitor> hp__: What exactly are you trying to do?
[08:33] <piliakis> if I could restart compiz without restarting session that would be a descent workaround until wine patches these problems up
[08:33] <hp__> i am student in a college and there is proxy server .. and i want to download torrents
[08:33] <hp__> how can i do so
[08:33] <auronandace> piliakis: are you sure the problems are with wine and not compiz?
[08:33] <themonitor> hp__: I don't think this is the channel for that. I'm sure your college wouldn't appreciate that.
[08:33] <llutz_> bullgard4: i just wonder, why you keep asking this for 24+ hrs here. "searchsite of your choice" would have given you the answer within 10 secs
[08:34] <piliakis> auronandace, yes, it only happens after fullscreen wine games
[08:34] <Damn3d> hp__, it's probably http-only anyway
[08:34] <Afdal> Well, evidently I'm not done yet.  I can now load GRUB from my Windows NT loader, but the GRUB I get
[08:34] <Damn3d> so there's no an easy way to do that
[08:34] <hp__> no my college allows torrnts download
[08:34] <hp__> else on which channel can i know about it
[08:34] <auronandace> piliakis: and what makes you think wine is causing that instead of compiz?
[08:34] <Afdal> Is this simply command line with no options called GNU GRUB version 1.99-12ubuntu5, and I can't figure out how to boot from that
[08:35] <themonitor> hp__: Then why do you need a proxy?
[08:35] <Afdal> So first off, is that GRUB2?
[08:35] <piliakis> afdal if you want to repair/reinstall grub the way i use is a flash stick boot of ubuntu and then run boot-repair
[08:35] <Damn3d> so he can connect through it
[08:35] <hp__> hmm i mean what configuration i must keep
[08:35] <hp__> in torrent software
[08:35] <Damn3d> why would I know? I didn't set up their network
[08:36] <auronandace> hp__: please stop asking, we don't help people bypass proxies
[08:36] <its_jeremy_> Herpa is a spamming twat. please ban this ass
[08:36] <hp__> ok sorry
[08:36] <szal> !language | its_jeremy_
[08:36] <piliakis> auronandace, i dont know... from what I understand the icons get detached from the bar and end up behind it
[08:36] <its_jeremy_> then ban his spamming "butt"
[08:37] <auronandace> piliakis: wine isn't incharge of your icons, compiz is
[08:37] <piliakis> and I can see them due to transparency of bar I've set in unity plugin settings from compiz config manager
[08:37] <piliakis> auronandace, so is there a way to "reboot" compiz without restarting my session?
[08:38] <auronandace> piliakis: replace it with another wm
[08:39] <Afdal> Can anyone tell me the simple commands to boot from GRUB when I don't have OS options displayed?
[08:39] <piliakis> auronandace, i was hoping to avoid that...
[08:39] <auronandace> piliakis: wine and compiz never mix with fullscreen games, its been an issue for years
[08:40] <jetole> Afdal: I'd look to booting off of a live CD to fix that
[08:40] <Afdal> I can't do that right now
[08:40] <Afdal> Not with my setup
[08:40] <Afdal> I'm doing a fakeraid Linux and XP dual boot with GRUB accessed by Windows' NT loader
[08:42] <zyracksis> piliakis: you can use the terminal command "setsid unity" to reset unity. That might help
[08:42] <bullgard4> llutz_: This is an area where I have litte prvious knowledge. A person with a certain previous knowledge in this area can easily obtain the answer within 10 s. --  Please note also that this term has more meanings than only one.
[08:43] <auronandace> bullgard4: i'm curious, what are you looking to find out?
[08:44] <llutz_> bullgard4: well, you asked about "callbacks" in "software" context....  not that hard, independend  of previous knowledge. http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before
[08:45] <Mish-> RARGH! - Right, I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 and have "/home, /var and /usr" inside a volume group (vg0), on boot it looks like it can't see them so won't boot.
[08:45] <Mish-> ^^ Any ideas?
[08:46] <diuneigh> after typing in a password for the login screen.. it cycles back to the login screen.  I cann't log in.. how to fix that?
[08:46] <rodhash_> Guys... I'm not managing to play videos on youtube, it tries to use HTML5 even with such option disabled on Youtube preferences...
[08:46] <rodhash_> any help pls?
[08:47] <themonitor> diuneigh: try choosing non 3D unity
[08:47] <themonitor> rodhash_: have flash installed?
[08:48] <rodhash_> themonitor, How? I tried but I couldn't upgrade it
[08:48] <themonitor> rodhash_: How'd you go about upgrading?
[08:48] <valdur55> Hello. There is new radiotray version out. And precise uses old version
[08:50] <themonitor> rodhash_: Did you find the folder chrome uses for plugins and put the flash plugin there?
[08:50] <themonitor> rodhash_: Why do you want to upgrade flash anyway?
[08:50] <auronandace> !precise | valdur55
[08:51] <jetole> perhaps off topic though I don't know which room I should ask in but does anyone know where I can download the 12.04 devl releases
[08:51] <bazhang> jetole, #ubuntu+1
[08:51] <auronandace> jetole: look above at what ubottu posted
[08:52] <jetole> bazhang and auronandace: thanks
[08:54] <mac_osx> Hello again; still hooped
[08:54] <jetole> got the ISO from the topic in #ubuntu+1. Thanks bazhang
[08:55] <ingen> hello
[08:55] <jetole> by the way, does anyone know what this is for: ftp://ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/project/trace/ ? It appears to be files with timestamps
[08:55] <mac_osx> Can anyone tell me how to find users who are hidden on your computer? (ie; the names of their accounts don't match real user accounts
[08:55] <jetole> I mean each file contains a time stamp
[08:55] <rodhash_> themonitor, Why? Because when I try to play a youtube's video it says my flash plugin is out to date
[08:56] <valdur55> I had problem with Samsung 1670 Laser Printer, 1660 driver is reccoemended and printer prints error page
[08:56] <jetole> Hello, World!
[08:56] <jetole> ...and ingen
[08:56] <mac_osx> Could someone help with a hack?
[08:57] <mac_osx> I mean I've been hacked
[08:57] <jetole> rodhash_: is your flash play out of date? I'm using version <IP_ADDRESS> which I installed a few weeks to a month ago
[08:57] <jetole> mac_osx: yes. The FBI can.
[08:57] <auronandace> mac_osx: what makes you think that?
[08:58] <jetole> mac_osx: assuming you live in the USA then the FBI can
[08:58] <mac_osx> I have 2 users on my computer I can't delete
[08:58] <auronandace> !behelpful | jetole
[08:58] <mac_osx> I have deleted an account which I created
[08:58] <Guest97594> Hello, why is my DNS address being set to a local IP? Using another computer here.
[08:58] <jetole> auronandace: there isn't a more helpful answer. Anything otherwise results in contamination of evidence
[08:58] <mac_osx> but not their's
[08:59] <themonitor> rodhash_: Did you have flash installed  from the repos?
[08:59] <jetole> Guest97594: I'm guessing probably from a misconfigured DHCP server. Log in to your router/access point and see how that's setup
[09:00] <auronandace> mac_osx: what is the ouput of uname -a
[09:00] <mac_osx> I was trying to find their real names in the terminal
[09:00] <mac_osx> one second I'll try
[09:00] <Guest97594> My router has been acting crazy lately. Looks like I'll have to reset it again.
[09:01] <Guest97594> Thanks and bye while I try to get it working.
[09:01] <mac_osx> It shows only the other user I created
[09:01] <auronandace> mac_osx: what is the ouput of uname -a
[09:01] <mac_osx> but I have been into one of the other accounts. The one with no password
[09:02] <mac_osx> Linux charles-TA780G-M2 3.0.0-15-generic #26-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 20 15:59:53 UTC 2012 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[09:02] <jetole> mac_osx: If a real name for a login has been set then it will be the 5th field in /etc/passwd. Try running: grep -w LOGIN_NAME_GOES_HERE | cut -d ':' -f5
[09:02] <jetole> if it comes back blank then no real name has been specified for that user
[09:02] <Calimero> ...
[09:03] <themonitor> rodhash_: I'm sorry I'm not more helpful.
[09:03] <jetole> mac_osx: by the way, if you have been hacked then you should immediately power off the computer and call the FBI or if you live outside the USA then the similar authority who handles these types of cases
[09:04] <jetole> mac_osx: if you have been hacked and choose not to call the authorities then power off the machine and create a image of the hard drive as well as a md5 and sha1 sum of the hard drive. verify the sums of both to the image and store the sums with the image
[09:04] <mac_osx> No such file or directory
[09:04] <jetole> mac_osx: or at least you should do one of the two if you have been hacked
[09:04] <jetole> mac_osx: oops at the command I posted, it should be: grep -w LOGIN_NAME_GOES_HERE /etc/passwd | cut -d ':' -f5
[09:06] <jetole> mac_osx: obviouly you want to replace LOGIN_NAME_GOES_HERE with the login name you want the real name for
[09:06] <paraxxo> theadmin: u here ?
[09:06] <theadmin> paraxxo: Yes, why?
[09:06] <mac_osx> No such file or directory
[09:06] <jetole> mac_osx: or for a less concise command (more info returned), just run: grep -w LOGIN_NAME_GOES_HERE /etc/passwd
[09:06] <paraxxo> theadmin: i been here yesterday and im the one that installed Lubuntu on my netbook
[09:06] <jetole> mac_osx: you don't have a file /etc/passwd ?
[09:06] <mac_osx> I replaced it
[09:06] <jetole> mac_osx: if you don't have /etc/passwd then your system is broken
[09:07] <theadmin> paraxxo: Well, and?
[09:07] <paraxxo> theadmin: and i have a problem : the screen resulution doesnt match my screen i have to make the lubuntu-panel Auto-Hide
[09:07] <jetole> mac_osx: every Linux and probably 99% of all other unix have /etc/passwd. It's a vital, crucial, nessecary file
[09:07] <theadmin> paraxxo: Ah, uh... Sounds like you need the graphic drivers
[09:07] <mac_osx> No such file or directory
[09:08] <jetole> paraxxo: which one is Lubuntu?
[09:08] <paraxxo> jetole: what u mean
[09:08] <jetole> mac_osx: do you speak english very well?
[09:08] <auronandace> jetole: lxde
[09:08] <jetole> paraxxo: what is Lubuntu
[09:08] <jetole> ah
[09:08] <jetole> auronandace: thanks
[09:08] <mac_osx> It says Guest Session in the main log-in page, but guest-EuNLOX inside the user account
[09:08] <paraxxo> jetole: Google Lubuntu
[09:08] <jetole> paraxxo: why?
[09:08] <paraxxo> u asked what is it
[09:08] <mac_osx> jetole, I suck at typing
[09:08] <paraxxo> o.o
[09:09] <paraxxo> theadmin: idk whats graphic drivers .. kinda new to linux at all
[09:09] <jetole> paraxxo: yes I did and now I know what it is thanks to the helpful and friendly comment from auronandace
[09:09] <paraxxo> jetole: sorry my english is not too good to explain stuff
[09:09] <paraxxo> jetole: dont take it personal
[09:09] <theadmin> paraxxo: Well -- install and open jockey, it'll get them for you
[09:10] <jetole> paraxxo: no worries
[09:10] <theadmin> paraxxo: sudo apt-get install jockey-gtk && jockey-gtk
[09:10] <paraxxo> k
[09:10] <paraxxo> sec
[09:10] <jetole> mac_osx: if you don't have a /etc/passwd file on your ubuntu system then your ubuntu system is severely broken
[09:10] <jetole> paraxxo: http://goo.gl/GTcdQ
[09:10] <mac_osx> jetole, I have the file but it has an X on it, it wont let me open it
[09:11] <bazhang> jetole, dont lmgtfy.com here, ever
[09:11] <jetole> mac_osx: chmod 0644 /etc/passwd
[09:11] <jetole> bazhang: ok
[09:11] <paraxxo> jetole: haha :P
[09:11] <mac_osx> Operation not permitted
[09:11] <jetole> bazhang: I thought it was cute but I do understand and it won't happen again
[09:12] <jetole> mac_osx: sudo chmod 0644 /etc/passwd
[09:12] <mac_osx> They disabled my CD Rom drive
[09:12] <paraxxo> theadmin: its the same thing
[09:12] <jetole> mac_osx: if your system was really hacked then shut it off now and either call the FBI or at least image the hard drive and create hashes of it
[09:12] <paraxxo> theadmin: jockey-gtk ^^ jockey-gtk
[09:12] <paraxxo> &&*
[09:13] <mac_osx> Something changed
[09:13] <theadmin> paraxxo: Uh, no, it's not. The first command installs it, the second one opens :/
[09:13] <paraxxo> oh kk
[09:14] <paraxxo> theadmin: k
[09:14] <jetole> mac_osx: I've told you the two most important things which you should do one of the two of and you haven't so you're making it difficult to want to keep helping you
[09:15] <mac_osx> Sorry jetole, it just takes me some time to try the things you've said
[09:15] <jetole> mac_osx: the first thing to do is poweroff the computer
[09:15] <jetole> mac_osx: the second thing is to either image the drive or call the FBI
[09:16] <mernilio> my friens dad was going away last day. and im so sorry on his behalf.
[09:16] <mac_osx> Thanks jetole
[09:16] <jetole> mac_osx: if you live outside the US then call whoever does a similar job to investigating hacks in your country
[09:16] <jetole> mac_osx: if all else fails, try 911
[09:16] <mac_osx> Thankyou, I will
[09:16] <paraxxo> it output errors
[09:16]  * jetole nods at mac_osx
[09:16] <mac_osx> I'm out
[09:17] <sree> 'll anybody help me solve problem with atheros ar9485
[09:17] <mernilio> thanks jetole ?
[09:17] <jetole> toying around with a hacked computer immediately after a hack is one of the worst things to do
[09:17] <sree> help
[09:17] <jetole> believe me I've wanted to do that just after a hacking incident but I had to call the feds
[09:18] <mernilio> that sree go ahead my friend!
[09:18] <themonitor> sree: try asking a specific question.
[09:18] <head_victim> sree: did you try the information at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1857808&page=7 ?
[09:18] <paraxxo> theadmin: it output errors
[09:18] <jetole> but even if someone doesn't want to call the feds or even if you do, after the feds leave, image the drive and create hashes of the imaged drive
[09:19] <jetole> mernilio: you don't think he should have said thanks?
[09:19] <paraxxo> what is xrandr
[09:19] <mernilio> why do people came in this channel wheh i go away?
[09:20]  * jetole shrugs
[09:20] <mernilio> jetole: no.. forgiv that -P
[09:20] <jetole> mernilio: oh ok
[09:20] <whiskers75> How do you get a Creative webcam working on ubuntu 10.10?
[09:20] <mernilio> we dont giva aways here :-)
[09:21] <jetole> whiskers75: see if the webcam is detected by running: ls -l /dev/video*
[09:21] <whiskers75> jetole: it is detected by lsusb
[09:21] <whiskers75> jetole: it is a usb webcam.
[09:21] <jetole> whiskers75: neat. thanks for informing me.
[09:21] <jetole> whiskers75: see if the webcam is detected by running: ls -l /dev/video*
[09:21] <mernilio> but now i think i must say thaks to you.. i coulndt ever spell right!
[09:21] <whiskers75> jetole: OK.
[09:22] <jetole> mernilio: are you talking to me?
[09:22] <whiskers75> jetole: is this it? crw-rw----+ 1 root video 81, 0 2012-02-11 09:22 /dev/video0
[09:23] <mernilio> jetole: im not!
[09:23] <jetole> mernilio: ah ok
[09:23] <mernilio> im a happy camper ;-)
[09:23] <jetole> whiskers75: probably but not sure. whiskers75 unplug the cam, wait 10 seconds and then run that command again and see if it's still there
[09:23] <llutz_> !ot | mernilio
[09:23] <whiskers75> jetole: ok.
[09:23] <mernilio> ubottu: sorry! :-)
[09:24] <bazhang> mernilio, stop it
[09:24] <jetole> mernilio: you realize ubottu is a bot?
[09:24] <whiskers75> jetole: then this happens: ls: cannot access /dev/video*: No such file or directory
[09:25] <jetole> whiskers75: good. That means it is your webcam as /dev/video0
[09:25] <mernilio> jetole: i was only trying to be funny,
[09:25] <jetole> whiskers75: go ahead and plug it back in
[09:25] <whiskers75> jetole: it is plugged in but the light isnt on
[09:25] <jetole> mernilio: I wasn't laughing but perhaps I have a different sense of humor
[09:25] <jetole> whiskers75: with most webcams the light only comes on when it's viewing something
[09:26] <jetole> whiskers75: hold 1 sec and let me see something on my cam to help test
[09:26] <whiskers75> jetole: ok
[09:26] <jetole> whiskers75: which version of ubuntu?
[09:26] <mernilio>  jetole we dont like your way of homour! ;-P
[09:27] <mernilio> it dispitefull actually!
[09:27] <whiskers75> jetole: 10.10 running on a Toshiba Portege 4000- very old so I don't upgrade it!
[09:27] <pangolin> mernilio: This is not a chat channel, you have been told this many times before. Please stop the off topic chatter in here.
[09:27] <whiskers75> jetole: I already had to fix the screen resolution
[09:27] <jetole> whiskers75: run: mplayer tv://
[09:27] <phibxr> After installing Xubuntu-desktop, is there any way to go back to the default plymouth splash during boot again?
[09:28] <whiskers75> jetole: ok.
[09:28] <whiskers75> jetole: should I install mplayer using apt-get? I don't have it.
[09:28] <satnosun> test
[09:29] <jetole> whiskers75: run: sudo apt-get install mplayer-nogui
[09:29] <whiskers75> jetole: why no gui?
[09:29] <satnosun> install smplayer later
[09:29] <jetole> whiskers75: oh I don't care if you want it but I don't need the gui for the test I'm asking you to perform but if you would like mplayer with the gui that is fine
[09:29] <rostayob> My laptop monitor's brightness changes by itself
[09:30] <whiskers75> jetole: installing now...
[09:30] <rostayob> was some kind of automatic brightness regulation added to ubuntu?
[09:30] <jetole> whiskers75: mplayer with the gui is just a point and click interface. I have the -nogui version installed and watch movies all the time on mine but if you would like the gui then that's ok
[09:30] <jetole> whiskers75: the gui install also includes the command line version
[09:31] <whiskers75> jetole: ok. I am installing mplayer with a gui right now.
[09:31] <phnom> rostayob: It dims the screen when idle, but that is old stuff.
[09:31] <jetole> whiskers75: k
[09:31] <whiskers75> jetole: done. Now what?
[09:31] <rostayob> phnom: no, not that
[09:31] <jetole> whiskers75: mplayer tv://
[09:31] <whiskers75> jetole: ok
[09:32] <paraxxo> theadmin: when i try to install jockey it output error , can u guide me to use xrandr
[09:32] <m0ron5> i have installed ubuntu onto a pen drive... however the boot process is very slooow. how can i diagnose the problem?
[09:32] <whiskers75> jetole: now it works great, just the brightness is too low. Can I change that?
[09:32] <jetole> m0ron5: how slow?
[09:33] <jetole> whiskers75: probably and probably again through mplayer. if you want to change it mplayer, though there is probably no point in doing so but, if you want to, then read: man mplayer
[09:34] <jetole> whiskers75: all I know now is your webcam works so when you said it didn't work then I have to ask, which app didn't it work with?
[09:34] <jetole> whiskers75: we've now helped isolate and narrow down the cause of the problem
[09:34] <whiskers75> jetole: thanks a lot for your help. 'bye! ps. I just didn't know how to actually USE it.
[09:34] <m0ron5> jetole, its a 8 gig pen drive, with a 3 gig partition for / partition... takes over 5 minutes..
[09:34] <m0ron5> jetole, maybe even more than that
[09:35] <jetole> m0ron5: thats actually pretty normal for a pen drive as far as I know. Also Ubuntu doesn't yet support USB 2.0 speed which is often a problem
[09:35]  * fulmalvax slaps [Necris]Akasha around a bit with a large trout
[09:35]  * fulmalvax slaps [Necris]Akasha around a bit with a large trout
[09:35] <spacebug-> how can I easily list and save all my PPA:s in the form that I added them (that is "add-apt-repository ppa:/some/thing"). I know they all are in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ but using that would not add the keys also would it?
[09:35]  * fulmalvax slaps [Necris]Akasha around a bit with a large trout
[09:35] <FloodBot1> fulmalvax: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:35]  * fulmalvax slaps [Necris]Akasha around a bit with a large trout
[09:35] <jetole> m0ron5: and when I say as far I know, I have booted off a pen drive many times but I haven't timed it and I'm no pro in the arena
[09:35]  * fulmalvax slaps [Necris]Akasha around a bit with a large trout
[09:36]  * fulmalvax slaps _Pinch around a bit with a large trout
[09:36]  * fulmalvax slaps _bb around a bit with a large trout
[09:37] <charles_____> Hi! I'm trying to get my Huawei E160E mobile broadband modem connected to Ubuntu 10.04 x64. Can anyone help?
[09:37] <jetole> spacebug-: good question. looking into this now and I _WILL_ have an answer for you if you give me 5 minutes
[09:37] <spacebug-> jetole: thanks and yes I'll wait
[09:37] <jetole> charles_____: assuming your running network manager the phone is a usb connected android then it should be automatic but if not then check the network manager icon
[09:38] <scarleo> m0ron5, USB2? try adding pci=routeirq to boot options
[09:38] <charles_____> i don't know how to set it up and connect it
[09:39] <jetole> scarleo: as far as I know that doesn't help and I've looked into the USB 2.0 speed issue quite extensively. In fact, if I recall correctly, it's a kernel issue that hasn't yet been corrected
[09:40] <scarleo> jetole, It doesn't work fully for me either but sure got better
[09:40] <jetole> scarleo: but I am addressing this from memory when I looked at it 2 months ago and I may now be mistaken
[09:40] <jetole> scarleo: what speed do you get?
[09:40] <jetole> spacebug-: don't mind my chatter. Still putting the solution together for you
[09:41] <scarleo> jetole, don't remember and right now I have no usb stick
[09:41] <spacebug-> it's ok
[09:41] <jetole> scarleo: I don't recall what speed I got either but I'd probably know if you said something that I knew was well above mine
[09:41] <scarleo> jetole, I know I saw some improvement though, but I also read it will vary from hardware to hardware
[09:42] <scarleo> jetole, definitely not solved :)
[09:42] <jetole> scarleo: I do remember endless ubuntu forum threads and launchpad bug reports though that were all unanswered or said there is no current solution
[09:42] <scarleo> jetole, I'll google it a bit
[09:43] <jetole> scarleo: yeah I was kind of pissed.  A little depressed at that too
[09:43] <jetole> scarleo: well it's not my stick or question at the moment
[09:44] <scarleo> jetole, we can do so many things better than win anyway so we are still way ahead, but I know the feeling ;)
[09:45] <Guest28570> hey, how do I install flash for firefox
[09:46] <themonitor> sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[09:46] <jetole> spacebug-: sed -e '/deb http:\/\/ppa\.launchpad\.net/!d;s/.*\.net\/\(.*\)\/ubuntu[[:blank:]].*/\1/;s/^/ppa:/' /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | sort -u
[09:46] <saju_m> how create .vimrc if not exist in ~/
[09:47] <oCean> Guest28570: I usually do that by installing tthe flash-aid addon for firefox
[09:47] <Guest28570> wow that was too easy lol
[09:47] <Guest28570> thanks themonitor
[09:47] <jetole> saju_m: touch ~/.vimrc
[09:47] <themonitor> Guest28570: you're welcome
[09:47] <spacebug-> thanks jetole !
[09:47] <saju_m> what about default data in that file
[09:47] <jetole> spacebug-: you're welcome
[09:47] <jetole> saju_m: there is no default data to put in that file
[09:48] <saju_m> ok
[09:48] <themonitor> Guest28570: ubuntu-restricted-extras gives you lots of stuff as well as flash.
[09:48] <themonitor> oh...  I guess he left.
[09:49] <jetole> saju_m: if there was default data to put in that file it would already be there. There is default data for your system but it's not stored in ~/.vimrc and if you specify anything in ~/.vimrc that's already specified for the system then ~/.vimrc takes precedence
[09:50] <jetole> themonitor: yeah but if I had to throw in my two cents you can get a much newer version of flash from the adobe web site but I didn't feel like walking anyone through that right now
[09:50] <themonitor> jetole: yeah, keep it easy for the newbies
[09:51] <jetole> well that and I just don't feel like walking anyone through anything
[09:51] <jetole> afaik some sites won't let you use flash with the version that comes with the latest stable ubuntu
[09:51] <jetole> @ themonitor
[09:52] <jetole> themonitor: but, I'm tired and it's been a long day and I extensively walked someone through a very long process earlier and now it's either simple answers or something I can script on the side and paste one liners like what I just gave to spacebug-
[09:53] <themonitor> jetole: lol
[09:53]  * jetole shrugs
[09:54]  * sattu94 says Hi!
[09:54] <themonitor> jetole: I've only been using Linux for a few months, so I'm still a noob, but I like to help with simple things.
[09:54] <jetole> and oddly enough I'm finding myself surprisingly helpful tonight when I'm usually otherwise too busy to do so. I'm often helpful but not often in a channel long enough to answer more then 1 or 2 questions that come up while I'm asking my own question
[09:55] <oCean> jetole, themonitor please use -offtopic channel for chat
[09:55] <jetole> themonitor: good for you
[09:55] <LinSkyrate> irssi users: how do you close a MSG channel that is open?
[09:55] <jetole> LinSkyrate: first off you should ask in #irssi
[09:55] <themonitor>  /window close
[09:55] <jetole> LinSkyrate: Secondly /wc
[09:56] <LinSkyrate> jetole: i know, but this is also an linux tool channel :)
[09:56] <themonitor> sorry oCean
[09:56] <jetole> I guess /window close works too but /wc is a quicker alias
[09:56] <LinSkyrate> themonitor: thnx :)
[09:56] <jetole> LinSkyrate: oh I don't get a thanks? I gave you a quicker command to do the same thing
[09:56]  * jetole pouts
[09:56] <themonitor> ;)
[09:57] <jetole> heh
[09:57] <LinSkyrate> jetole: thnx to you too :)
[09:57]  * jetole jumps around and giggles then does his happy dance
[09:57] <oCean> jetole: please don't
[09:57] <LinSkyrate> jetole: you got it before i read your line :) i was just out closing windows.. lol
[09:57] <jetole> oCean: lol. ok
[09:57] <spacebug-> ;)
[09:58] <LinSkyrate> we all love help.. so a thank you are just a litle of it :) this is the learning way .. and you guys are great
[09:58] <themonitor> Is there a way to stop PM spam?
[09:59] <jetole> themonitor: /wc
[09:59] <jetole> ;-)
[09:59] <oCean> themonitor: please report in in -ops
[09:59] <oCean> /join #ubuntu-ops that is
[09:59] <jetole> themonitor: are you getting it from someone in this chan?
[09:59] <oCean> jetole: please move on and let the ops handle it
[10:00] <jetole> oCean: sure. I was just curious
[10:00] <jetole> themonitor: can I PM you?
[10:00] <LinSkyrate> spam everywhere.. argh... hope you get them themonitor..
[10:02] <themonitor> jetole: I don't have enough to talk about.
[10:03] <jetole> themonitor: I just wanted to ask you a quick question that is off topic but if you prefer not then that's ok
[10:04] <scarleo> jetole, I measured speed now, dstat gives ~4800 k, dd statistics says  5,8 MB/s that is without the boot option though :)
[10:04] <themonitor> jetole: ok
[10:04] <jetole> scarleo: cool
[10:04] <scarleo> jetole, will reboot later and test it with
[10:05] <jetole> scarleo: ~5 MBps sounds about like what I think I was getting too
[10:06] <paraxxo> i want to change the screen resulution on my lubuntu , because its on my netbook so it doesnt match so i tried to use that xrandr tutorial but i cant find the files it tells me to edit, etc/gdm/Init/Default doesnt exists
[10:07] <pu> asd
[10:08]  * Mish- asks again.
[10:09] <Mish-> Has anyone had any experience installing Ubuntu and putting "/home", "/usr" or "/var" in an LVM? (VG), I've done this on two servers and neither finishing booting as neither can see those partitions.
[10:12] <jetole> Mish-: I've done that dozens and dozens of times
[10:12] <pnorman> Mish-: I use LVM on top of my raid array, but I didn't have to do anything special
[10:12] <jetole> Mish-: what problem are you having
[10:12] <tay__> Anyone know why I can't access my router config?
[10:12] <jetole> Mish-: I do this with pretty much all the servers I install. LVM is a much better way to handle disk allocation
[10:12] <oCean> tay__: please explain how that is an ubuntu issue?
[10:13] <jetole> tay__: ... nevermind, oCean beat me to what I was about to say
[10:13] <soulraven> hi
[10:13] <tay__> Actually I'm having several issues.
[10:13] <jetole> Mish-: are you getting an error or anything?
[10:13] <dns53> Mish- it should be fine as long as the lvm2 package is installed an the initrd built correctly to include lvm
[10:13] <jetole> tay__: please explain the ubuntu ones
[10:13] <soulraven> anyone know how to remove a icon from envelope menu from unity?
[10:14] <tay__> The resolv.conf is going to a local IP.
[10:14] <jetole> tay__: which IP?
[10:14] <soulraven> i have remove xchat, but the icon from envelope menu remains
[10:14] <jetole> tay__: I mean which part of resolv.conf
[10:14] <soulraven> and i want to remove that icon
[10:14] <jetole> ?
[10:14] <tay__> name server <IP_ADDRESS> I think
[10:14] <ubuntu> fuck of
[10:16] <jetole> tay__: that's probably being set by your DHCP server but if you want to over ride it, edit /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf and add the line: supersede domain-name-servers NEW_NAMESERVER
[10:16] <robin0800> soulraven: its an indicator-xchat or something like that
[10:16] <jetole> tay__: replace NEW_NAMESERVER with the name server you want to replace it with
[10:16] <nickkissimo> CIAO A TUTTI
[10:16] <jetole> tay__: if you want to add a new name server and keep the others but have the new name server as the first server on your list, add the line prepend domain-name-servers NEW_NAMESERVER
[10:17] <jetole> tay__: after you add that line, if say eth0 is the nic connected to the network, run: dhclient -r eth0 && dhclient eth0
[10:18] <jetole> tay__: or just /etc/init.d/networking restart
[10:18] <pnorman> I installed some software from source using checkinstall. A new version has been released and I want to build and upgrade to it - what's the procedure for that using checkinstall?
[10:18]  * jetole wonders what checkinstall is
[10:18] <llutz_> !checkinstall | jetole
[10:19] <llutz_> pnorman: just build the new version and install the resulting deb
[10:19] <jpds> jetole: Yes, it is filled with timestamps (re: trace).
[10:19] <jetole> jpds: my question is what is it used for?
[10:19] <pnorman> llutz_: I never explicitly made a deb - do you mean just do the normal ./configure && make && checkinstall process?
[10:20] <quiescens> to install something from source as though it was a deb package
[10:20] <quiescens> so that you can remove it later if you want
[10:20] <llutz_> pnorman: yes, checkinstall will install it then automatically
[10:20] <jpds> jetole: Seeing when a mirror last synced?
[10:20] <Stelpa> hullo!
[10:20] <jetole> jpds: ah I see. Thanks
[10:20] <pnorman> llutz_: And it'll correctly handle everything with replacing the existing version?
[10:20] <Stelpa> i, uhm, seem to have screwed things up :S
[10:21] <tay__> I've been having issues with another computer too so I think it may be time for a new router.
[10:21] <llutz_> pnorman: its supposed to
[10:21] <oCean> Stelpa: you have to give the channel some details...
[10:21] <Stelpa> anyone willing to help me right this screw up; there is a catch, which is, i do not recall at all what i did to make this happen....
[10:21] <oCean> Stelpa: start describing your issue in the channel, all in one line
[10:21] <pnorman> Of course, ./configure is a vast simplification of what I actually have to do before compiling, hence the building from source and not using a ppa. :)
[10:22] <Stelpa> but, uhm, yeah; in my file browser (in my screenshot, looking for an album to play) it lists "sdb1" along with 2, 3, and 4 as file systems / storage... i have no idea what this means. When i try to click on one, an error message pops up about it being unable to mount.
[10:22] <Stelpa> screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/pC3TI.png
[10:22] <Stelpa> it's bizarre, i must have done this long ago and not noticed until recently...
[10:23] <Stelpa> btw, wendy is a harddrive named after wendy carlos :-)
[10:23] <jetole> Stelpa: just select Wendy from the left menu
[10:24] <Stelpa> jetole: i did, that isn't the issue; these objects on the menu (sdb1 through 4) are useless and bugged...
[10:24] <jetole> Stelpa: sdbX are partitions of your hard drive but should not be accessed in that manner
[10:24] <oCean> Stelpa: the sdX devices are disk partitions
[10:24] <Stelpa> they are?
[10:24] <Stelpa> well, they aren't supposed to be there, i dont think :s
[10:24] <jetole> Stelpa: open nautilus, the program you use to browse files and remove them from the window in there
[10:24] <jetole> Stelpa: I mean remove them from the left tab that shows your bookmarked locations
[10:25] <Stelpa> jetole: i have tried this; both options (remove and rename) are "grayed out" and unclickable (i will screenshot if you need to see)
[10:25] <jetole> Stelpa: yeah please do
[10:25] <Stelpa> k!
[10:25] <Stelpa> ty for helping me btw :)
[10:27] <Stelpa> okey, screenshot:
[10:27] <Stelpa> http://i.imgur.com/4zyMz.png
[10:27] <jetole> Stelpa: one sec
[10:28] <kdmurray> Is this the right channel to ask about issues setting up samba on ubuntu?
[10:28] <jetole> Stelpa: what happens if you go to View -> Reset View To Defaults
[10:28] <jetole> ?
[10:29] <Stelpa> jetole: there are no menu items at the top...
[10:29] <jetole> kdmurray: while you can ask, you'd probably be better off asking in #samba and more likely to get a response more quickly. If you want to ask in a ubuntu channel though I would ask in #ubuntu-server but, again, #samba is probably the best spot
[10:30] <jetole> Stelpa: slick on your "start" menu, click places and click your home dir
[10:30] <kdmurray> jetole: thanks! I'll try there.
[10:30] <jetole> Stelpa: there should be menu items when that open up
[10:30] <Stelpa> jetole: ok, i did that; nothing seems to have changed :(
[10:31] <jetole> Stelpa: which version of ubuntu?
[10:31] <Stelpa> :X
[10:31] <Stelpa> uhm, this is linux mint... their help channel is currently busy/incapable of helping, so i hope you wont mind that i tried going here because of the similarity of the two...
[10:31] <jetole> Stelpa: good luck
[10:31] <Stelpa> :(
[10:32] <mivulf> where i must put symlinks to firefox?
[10:32] <oCean> Stelpa: nope, mint is one of the derivatives we cannot support here
[10:32] <mivulf> i forgot adresses
[10:32] <jetole> mivulf: anywhere you like
[10:32] <Stelpa> they are very similar; could you at least tell me what you'd have me do if this were ubuntu?
[10:32] <sda1986> I have a new laptop, with 11.10 basic kernel wifi works but touchpad don't, so i compiled 3.2 kernel and now touchpad work but wifi not. So what can be my mistake??? thanks!
[10:32] <jetole> Stelpa: absolutely. I would ask you which version of ubuntu you were using
[10:32] <Stelpa> :s
[10:33] <Stelpa> i see
[10:33] <jetole> Stelpa: this is not a mint help channel
[10:33] <mivulf> jetole: no, i mean, where i must put it to open firefox as default
[10:33] <Stelpa> i only came here because mint's channel didn't know what to do, and it wasn't very active at the moment either
[10:33] <Stelpa> people have helped me here in the past with problems on mint, i am just kinda desperate :x
[10:33] <jetole> mivulf: anywhere you like. It has nothing to do with symlinks. mivulf which version of ubuntu
[10:34] <jetole> Stelpa: my answer varies based on which version of ubuntu you are using
[10:34] <mivulf> jetole: 11.10. I mean the /usr/local/bin/firefox
[10:34] <Stelpa> jetole: i see. thanks for trying, anyways :)
[10:34] <Stelpa> byebye
[10:34] <jetole> mivulf: I don't know where that's configured in 11.10. I use 10.04 and one 11.04 system using classic gnome but I don't use unity or gnome3
[10:35] <jetole> mivulf: I know in gnome2 it's configured in "start" -> system -> preferences -> preferred applications
[10:36] <jetole> mivulf: see if you can find a similar option in unity or gnome3 or whatever you use
[10:36] <diverdude> hmmm this is the second time in 2 months my ubuntu has crashed completely and unprovoked....I cannot start it again
[10:36] <mivulf> jetole: thx u for ur help, but all that u told me its not about my problem. sorry for that.
[10:36] <diverdude> i cant believe i have to reinstall again
[10:37] <jetole> mivulf: no I actually told you how to solve it on a earlier OS and told you to look for a similar option on your version
[10:37] <jetole> diverdude: what is your question
[10:37] <cypher-neo> mivulf, What's the problem?
[10:37] <mivulf> jetole: my problem is "how to set another version of firefox as a default in ubuntu 11.10 by using symlinks"
[10:38] <llutz_> diverdude: check your hardware (mem, hdds). if you really haven't changed anything, there must be a reason for those crashes
[10:38] <jetole> cypher-neo: he wants a custom install of firefox to be his default browser that he installed in /usr/local/bin and I don't know where the preferred applications popup is on 11.10
[10:38] <Stelpa> getting logs :s
[10:38] <jetole> mivulf: and I told you it has nothing to do with symlinks
[10:38] <cypher-neo> jetole, Can't do that with the Preferred Applications popup
[10:38] <cypher-neo> mivulf, Here's what you need to do.
[10:38] <jetole> cypher-neo: you can in ubuntu 10.04
[10:39] <jetole> so I assumed it was still possible in 11.04
[10:39] <jetole> @ cypher-neo
[10:39] <cypher-neo> jetole, But you can't in 11.10
[10:39] <diverdude> llutz_: i was just sitting in netbeans doing some webprogramming...and suddently the machine goes crazy...no programs responding....I do a hard reboot and now i cannot start the system again
[10:39] <jetole> cypher-neo: ok. yeah I don't use 11.10
[10:39] <oCean> jetole, mivulf sure it does, you can use  alternatives to set another version as default (of several softwares)
[10:39] <cypher-neo> jetole, Don't ask me why. They broke something
[10:39] <jetole> cypher-neo: so how do you do it in 11.10?
[10:39] <oCean> mivulf: see /etc/alternatives, your gnome-www-browser is probably linked to default /usr/bin/firefox
[10:39] <diverdude> llutz_: i can start it in safe mode only
[10:40] <diverdude> llutz_: or recovery mode i think its called
[10:40] <cypher-neo> mivulf, Okay. So here's how. Open the Terminal and type (without the quotes) "sudo update-alternatives --get-selections"
[10:40] <jetole> oCean: kinda seems like a step backwards. Is that protected against upgrades and apt-get/aptitude/synaptic installs?
[10:40] <llutz_> diverdude: fs-errors, broken files/configs? what exactly is b0rked?
[10:41] <jetole> oCean: I guess there's always the chattr +i option to protect it at least
[10:41] <oCean> jetole: if you have more than one version of certain software installed, 'update-alternatives' is the proper way to set defaults
[10:41] <cypher-neo> mivulf, I think most likely the directory tree you are looking for x-www-browser
[10:41] <oCean> jetole: those are just symlinks, so nothing to do with updates etc
[10:41] <cypher-neo> mivulf, And when you look at the tree, it will tell you what the current default for that is.
[10:41] <jetole> oCean: How do I change the default for my user but not the whole system?
[10:42] <oCean> jetole: not through alternatives
[10:42] <jetole> right
[10:42] <melvincv> I need to change autoplay for blank DVD to 'do nothing', but I had set it to open CD/DVD creator. Now I don't get the option to change it back to do nothing?
[10:42] <jetole> oCean: so how?
[10:42] <oCean> jetole: I have no idea, not working with multiple users. And that was not the question
[10:43] <diverdude> llutz_: i have no idea what is broken,....it starts booting and when it comes to this place where it says *starting all kinds of stuff
[10:43] <kalimojo> kindone: cant sent to #defocus
[10:43] <jetole> oCean: well ok at not working with multiple users but that is the question. I just asked it
[10:43] <cypher-neo> mivulf, Now type "update-alternatives --list x-www-browser" to see which alternatives are available to be selected on your system. Hopefully both of your browsers will be displayed.
[10:43] <diverdude> llutz_: so it writes starting and stopping a lot of things, and in the end it says checking battery state and then it just hangs there
[10:44] <robin0800> melvincv: I think ubuntu-tweak can do that
[10:44] <cypher-neo> mivulf, If it is displayed, type "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser" and select which browser you want to be default from the menu that shows up.
[10:44] <cypher-neo> mivulf, Let me know if that works. :)
[10:44] <melvincv> I'm on Natty.
[10:45] <sda1986> hi, have a i5 on my laptop and i want compile my kernel, can I use my AmdX6 to do that?
[10:45] <jetole> oCean: also the proper way to do something is not change the whole system for ones own personal needs and on the system I am using now, 10.04, this is easily done. If what you proposed is documented as the proper way to do things then the documents are mistaken
[10:45] <meco> I've installed a new bittorrent client. How do I make new torrents be handled by the new instead of the old client?
[10:45] <diverdude> llutz_: are you there+
[10:45] <diverdude> ?
[10:46] <Ben64> sda1986: why do you want to compile a kernel?
[10:46] <oCean> jetole: the way cypher-neo just explained to mivulf is the proper way. I have no idea what the documentation says
[10:47] <sda1986> Ben64, the standard kernel on repository doesn't support some stuff of my new laptop, most important touchpad, with a 3.2 kernel it support it
[10:47] <cypher-neo> jetole, oCean, I just quoted the documentation. ;)
[10:47] <oCean> there you go
[10:47] <diverdude> llutz: last time the problem was with graphic drivers and i gave up fixing it
[10:47] <diverdude> llutz: i suspect its the same problem again
[10:47] <Ben64> sda1986: you could upgrade to 12.04
[10:48] <cypher-neo> jetole, oCean, However, on 10.04 there is a GUI interface that is much easier to use than Terminal commands.
[10:48] <jetole> oCean: it may be the documented way or the commonly accepted way but the logic to state it is the proper way is flawed and while it may work in mivulf's case it should only be used in a circumstance where the user knows that they want to change it system wide and for everything else there should be a standard default procedure on how to do it for just your user
[10:48] <mysteriousdarren> meco: I would uninstall the old one
[10:48] <jetole> cypher-neo: yeah but it's not just a case of what was there but basic system administration skills which dictate best practices
[10:48] <sda1986> Ben64,  yes but it's still alpha isn't it? I want a stable system, i can live with beta but not with alpha
[10:48] <meco> mysteriousdarren: ok...
[10:49] <oCean> jetole: ok, but again the question is "how to set another version of firefox as a default in ubuntu 11.10 by using symlinks"
[10:49] <jetole> cypher-neo and oCean: it's like comparing telling a user to edit a file in /usr/share/vim when instead they should place the change in ~/.vimrc
[10:49] <mysteriousdarren> meco: what did you install? what was the old one?
[10:49] <jetole> oCean: I didn't say anything about symlinks
[10:50] <cypher-neo> jetole, There's no such thing as basic when using symlinks. The 10.04 program updated the "update-alternatives" just the same as the command function does.
[10:50] <Ben64> sda1986: its doing a lot better now than before. all the times i've compiled a kernel on ubuntu things haven't worked how they should, so i wouldn't recommend it
[10:50] <meco> mysteriousdarren: I'm moving from transmission to tribler
[10:50] <cypher-neo> jetole, And you were talking about symlinks when suggesting the Preferred Applications program.
[10:50] <jetole> cypher-neo: in 10.04, I don't know how it works but I know it doesn't affect all users
[10:50] <oCean> nvm, I don't see this discussion going anywhere, let's move back to support
[10:51] <sda1986> Ben64, ok, i'll make a try!
[10:51] <cypher-neo> jetole, update-alternatives doesn't affect all users either.
[10:51] <cypher-neo> jetole, It only affects the current user, or global settings if the user is admin
[10:51] <m0ron5> where do i put pci=routeirq for USB2 support? I cannot find the menu.1st (didn't know it has changed of late)
[10:51] <jetole> cypher-neo: I was referring to mivulf's question but now I'm correcting oCean who is saying the proper way to do it is to make changes for all users because that's what someone else told him (I assume since he mentioned he didn't read it in any documentation)
[10:51] <mysteriousdarren> meco: I am not familar with tribler sorry
[10:51] <cypher-neo> jetole, And there's more to the command if you want to affect it globally
[10:52] <jetole> cypher-neo: ah well that changes everything
[10:52] <jetole> cypher-neo: and I didn't realize
[10:52] <cypher-neo> jetole, Depending on how many people use the computer, it is much easier to make changes globally. It's also more secure to make global changes.
[10:52] <jetole> so, cypher-neo and oCean: this was all my mistake. No one had mentioned update-alternatives only affects the current user till now and I didn't know
[10:52] <cypher-neo> jetole, Once you've patched a problem you don't want to leave it open on one user account to be reopened.
[10:53] <jetole> cypher-neo: true but that should be an alternative action vs. a default action
[10:53] <mivulf> cypher-neo: jetole: ok big thx for a help, sirs.
[10:53] <cypher-neo> jetole, Let me check... just to be sure...
[10:53] <bsdVIP> i got banned in here yesterday by freakin ocean
[10:53] <jetole> cypher-neo: speaking as a sys admin myself, the changes should affect all users only when you're intending to affect all users
[10:54] <asiekierka> hey
[10:54] <asiekierka> my dad's running a ubuntu 10.10 livecd and to get teamviewer working i need to install ia32-libs
[10:54] <asiekierka> any workaround?
[10:54] <quiescens> to my knowledge update-alternatives does affect all users
[10:54] <diverdude> i have nvidia drivers. WHat should i write in order to do? sudo apt-get remove --purge video drivers ? is it sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-current ?
[10:54] <jetole> cypher-neo: I assumed this was regarding changes in /etc/alternatives and I shouldn't have assumed anything
[10:54] <scarleo> m0ron5, in /etc/default/grub the line starting with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[10:55] <jetole> cypher-neo & oCean: again, my mistake
[10:55] <oCean> jetole: no prob, really
[10:55] <duelle> Hi there, currently I have a partition encrypted. Now I would like to do a fresh install of my system.  It's possible I was wrong. Since I'm the only user on my computer, I've never had a chance to check and see if any other user accounts are affected by an update-alternatives change.
[10:59] <m0ron5> one more thing before i reboot the system to test this out... where can i put 'apt-get clean' in the system scripts to be sure that the apt cache is cleared either on bootup or shutdown (need this to be transparent.. without a password challenge.. irrespective of the user rebooting the system!!)
[11:00] <cypher-neo> m0ron5, You could put it in .bash, but it would need to be a shell script.
[11:01] <cypher-neo> m0ron5, I'm not sure I can help you there. I just got started with Shell... I have my computer doing some very interesting things on startup, but nothing like that.
[11:01] <m0ron5> cypher-neo, but wouldn't that fail without the sudo privileges and password?
[11:01] <jetole> m0ron5: if it doesn't have to be on startup or shutdown but instead every so many days (can be every 1 day) see /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic
[11:02] <pnorman> m0ron5: I can't give you exact details, but I suggest reading /etc/init.d/README
[11:02] <testt> openjdk-6-jre takes 50%-90% CPU even if the program takes 1% CPU when run in windows with the sun jre, is it a bug with ubuntu
[11:02] <jetole> m0ron5: specifically APT::Periodic::AutocleanInterval "5";
[11:02] <jetole> m0ron5: and this would in fact be the preferred way to do it
[11:03] <Myrtti> paraxxo: you could try arandr or grandr, they're GUI's for xrandr
[11:04] <m0ron5> ahaa! Thanks jetole !
[11:04] <paraxxo> Myrtti: for Lubuntu ?
[11:04] <Myrtti> paraxxo: yes.
[11:04] <diverdude> llutz: hello
[11:04] <paraxxo> Myrtti: ok i will try
[11:04] <testt> i figured out it is shown as a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/857776 but where is the fix?
[11:04] <diverdude> anybody here is able to help with a crashed ubuntu system?
[11:04] <jetole> m0ron5: no problem
[11:05] <cypher-neo> diverdude, I can try
[11:05] <diverdude> cypher-neo: thx man. its just totally gone
[11:05] <cypher-neo> diverdude, Okay. I assume you want some files left on the hard drive though.
[11:05] <jetole> cypher-neo: yeah I just finished my testing, update-alternatives seems to be global only
[11:05] <diffred> hi! Ubuntu 11.10, I have changed my user name in System Settings, everything seems fine except when I open a terminal I still get oldname@computer~. I have already restarted and still appears. Any idea how can I change the terminal username? Thanks in advance
[11:05] <diverdude> cypher-neo: no programs responded so i did hard reboot and now cannot start the system again
[11:06] <jetole> cypher-neo: as far as I can tell
[11:06] <cypher-neo> diverdude, Can you boot from a USB stick or Live CD?
[11:07] <diverdude> cypher-neo: i would like the old system to work again...so not reinstall because i got stuff lying in that system and setups which i would like to keep
[11:07] <diverdude> cypher-neo: i can boot in recovery mode and get a terminal
[11:07] <cypher-neo> diverdude, Do you have a spare 2Gb USB drive?
[11:07] <paraxxo> Myrtti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/837635/
[11:08] <diverdude> cypher-neo: mmm yes i might have that. what should it be used for?
[11:08] <cypher-neo> diverdude, Here's what I have in mind. This is what I use to rescue systems...
[11:08] <Stelpa> hello again :P
[11:08] <Myrtti> paraxxo: and what happens when you try to do what the error message suggests?
[11:08] <Stelpa> i have another question; don't worry, this one shouldn't be distro-specific
[11:09] <Stelpa> if you don't mind me asking, i mean :x
[11:09] <Stelpa> this place is just much more friendly than mint's help chan :\
[11:09] <diverdude> cypher-neo:  ok im listening
[11:09] <jetole> Stelpa: what is the question?
[11:09] <cypher-neo> diverdude, Boot the computer using a Live CD, and click "Try" not "Install" so it boots to the Live CD desktop. Then pop in your USB drive and use the USB Drive creator to make a Live-USB-drive that you can boot from. Then restart the computer, ejecting the CD, and boot from the USB drive.
[11:10] <paraxxo> Myrtti: in the first time i tried to fix missing it output error , second time it worked . lubuntu is stable ?
[11:10] <Stelpa> jetole: :D
[11:10] <Stelpa> how can you make linux automatically copy files from one folder to another?
[11:10] <cypher-neo> diverdude, This frees up your CD/DVD burner, so you can mount the hard drive and burn files to CD/DVD
[11:10] <Stelpa> i have just recently set up my harddrive, and i would like to make my system automatically copy files from one folder to another on the new harddrive
[11:10] <jetole> Stelpa: don't know if there is any standard solution but try inosync
[11:10] <Stelpa> as backup
[11:10] <Stelpa> hmm
[11:10] <Stelpa> i will look, ty!
[11:11] <cypher-neo> diverdude, Make sense?
[11:11] <diverdude> cypher-neo: yeah but what about all my setups... ? i thinks its just a matter of fixing the graphics drivers somehow
[11:11] <scarleo> Stelpa, just make a small copy script that does the job and run it with a cron job
[11:11] <jetole> Stelpa: yeah there isn't really a standard solution to that as far as I know. backups are often scheduled
[11:11] <Stelpa> scarleo: i am too noob for this :x
[11:11] <diverdude> cypher-neo: i dont think its necessary to reformat everything
[11:11] <wenning> hello
[11:11] <cypher-neo> diverdude, I am mainly trying to let you backup your files before tweaking your system, just in case.
[11:11] <Stelpa> could you maybe help write it, or would that be too much to ask? :x
[11:11] <jetole> Stelpa: then you would be lost with inosync too. If that is too newbie for you then you may be up the creek without a paddle
[11:12] <jetole> Stelpa: how would you set this up on windows?
[11:12] <paraxxo> Myrtti: i installed grandr and it doesnt let u choose 16:9 or 4:3 or w.e u want
[11:12] <Stelpa> jetole: idunno :\
[11:12] <CharminTheMoose_> Is it possible for two kernels of the same version on the same system to co-exist without too much hassle?
[11:12] <jetole> Stelpa: me either
[11:12] <cypher-neo> diverdude, What happened to the graphics drivers you were using?
[11:12] <cypher-neo> diverdude, Were they working fine before? Did you change anything?
[11:13] <Stelpa> but it would be convenient; transmission (the torrent client) automatically saves .torrent files to a directory that seems like it can't be changed
[11:13] <scarleo> Stelpa, http://pastie.org/3360232
[11:13] <Stelpa> but i'd like to host my torrents on my new harddrive
[11:13] <Myrtti> paraxxo: 16:9 are just aspect ratios, does it have any resolutions of that ratio?
[11:13] <Stelpa> scarleo: that's all? 0_0
[11:13] <paraxxo> Myrtti: grandr ?
[11:13] <diverdude> cypher-neo: i have no idea...i changed nothing....but i saw articles where ppl say this problem is related to graphic drivers
[11:13] <Stelpa> and then just run it whenever i need to sync them?
[11:13] <Stelpa> i see, that is simple!
[11:14] <cypher-neo> diverdude, What problem?
[11:14] <cypher-neo> diverdude, What does it do?
[11:14] <Stelpa> but, how could i make it, as jetole said, do it on a schedule?
[11:14] <scarleo> Stelpa, yes, then run crontab -e and follow instructions or google for more help
[11:14] <jetole> Stelpa: heh. no that's not all. That's a bash script he posted that you then need to set as a bash script, give it executable permissions then add it to the crontab
[11:14] <Myrtti> paraxxo: yes?
[11:14] <paraxxo> Myrtti: when i installed Ubuntu-Netbook-Edition it was perfect resolution with 1024x600 16:9 but it was too slow for my netbook so im trying lubuntu now
[11:14] <scarleo> Stelpa, yes, chmod +x on the file, sorry forgot
[11:14] <paraxxo> and the resolution is horribole
[11:15] <lucidmadman> i have a newbie samba question
[11:16] <Stelpa> i know how to chmod, i am not THAT newbie, but still i'm a noob >_<
[11:16] <Stelpa> ty for all the help! i'm gonna try this :D
[11:16] <jetole> Stelpa: scarleo's solution works and pretty well. There are a lot of inotify solutions that I think work better but if a bash script is too much for you then, I'm sorry to say, but at this point I'm a little too tired to walk you through it so I'm gonna turn this over to scarleo who can help you better then I can
[11:16] <cypher-neo> diverdude, What is the problem? Can you describe it?
[11:16] <jetole> lucidmadman: did you ask in #samba?
[11:17] <Stelpa> jetole: that's fine, ty very much for being patient with me... i know ubuntu and mint don't get along too well, and honestly i kinda regret choosing mint, but its a bit too late to go back on it now :s
[11:17] <Stelpa> so anyways ty for being nice :)
[11:17] <lucidmadman> i haven't, I'll try there, thanks jetole!
[11:18] <jetole> Stelpa: while this is a ubuntu room, unlike your previous question from earlier, this one actually could be equally asked in a #aix room or #hpux or #redhat or just about any *nix room so no worries
[11:18] <jetole> lucidmadman: np
[11:18] <Stelpa> jetole: that is what i was thinking, which is why i got the courage to return :s
[11:19] <Stelpa> some distros are quite different, but these types of things seem almost universal
[11:19]  * jetole goes back to reading what I was reading
[11:20] <jetole> holy crap! I googled pam audit and found a facebook page for pam audit: http://www.facebook.com/pam.audit
[11:20] <jetole> I wonder if /etc/passwd has a facebook page too
[11:20] <cypher-neo> diverdude, Maybe you could link me to the articles you were reading which describe the problem you are having?
[11:20] <asiekierka> jetole what about /etc/shaodw?
[11:20] <asiekierka> shadow*
[11:21] <oCean> jetole: please stick to support
[11:21] <Jacruth> hi there, I'm trying to mount a partition. Fdisk shows this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/837644/
[11:21] <jetole> asiekierka: yeah but it keeps all it's information private ;-)
[11:21] <paraxxo> Myrtti: theres Lubuntu netbook edition ?
[11:22] <Jacruth> But I'm not able to know what filetype is /dev/sdb
[11:22] <Jacruth> I think it is ext2 or ext3
[11:22] <jetole> Jacruth: it's a disk
[11:22] <Jacruth> It is.
[11:22] <quiescens> Jacruth: sudo file -s /dev/sdb
[11:22] <jetole> Jacruth: it can be either but it really shouldn't be
[11:23] <jetole> Jacruth: if it is then you made a mistake but that doesn't mean it won't work either
[11:23] <Jacruth> quiescens, file -s returns this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/837646/
[11:23] <Ben64> Jacruth: doesn't look like sdb has a filesystem
[11:23] <cypher-neo> diverdude, You around?
[11:23] <paraxxo> anyone know if theres any Lubuntu-Netbook-Edition
[11:23] <lucidmadman> jetole: #samba has clammed up on me
[11:23] <lucidmadman> mind if I ask here?
[11:24] <Stelpa> hmm, scarleo, i am trying to run the script first to test it, and it doesn't seem to be copy-ing
[11:24] <quiescens> Jacruth: then /dev/sdb contains a partition table rather than just a file system
[11:24] <Jacruth> jetole, what do you mean about I made mistake? Do you mean while fortmatting?
[11:24] <jetole> lucidmadman: fascinating. I never said I could help you either. Just that it was a better place to ask samba questions
[11:24] <cypher-neo> paraxxo, Netbook Edition was replaced by the Unity interface in 11.04
[11:24] <lucidmadman> haha fair enough
[11:24] <Ben64> Jacruth: you put an extended partition, but no real partition
[11:24] <scarleo> Stelpa, did you put the right paths?
[11:24] <Jacruth> jetole, I did not format it (but I need to fix it, thanks dad!) so I don't know what did my father do with it
[11:24] <jetole> Jacruth: no disk should not have a partition table meaning /dev/sdb should not have a file system
[11:24] <Stelpa> scarleo: i think so....
[11:24] <Stelpa> cp /home/.config/transmission/torrents /media/Wendy/Downloads/Torrents
[11:24] <paraxxo> cypher-neo: im talking about a lubuntu version for netbook resolution
[11:25] <mirek> hey jest tu jakis polak
[11:25] <quiescens> Jacruth: you can use sudo fdisk -l to see what partitions are available
[11:25] <cypher-neo> paraxxo, Let me check
[11:25] <oCean> !pl | mirek
[11:25] <jetole> Jacruth: from the output provided by the file command you ran it looks like it is a normal disk and there is no file system on it
[11:25] <scarleo> Stelpa, try 'cp -r' and verify both paths exist
[11:25] <CharminTheMoose_> Is it possible for two kernels of the same version on the same system to co-exist without too much hassle?
[11:25] <Jacruth> quiescens, that is what I pasted first
[11:25] <jetole> Jacruth: maybe your dad deleted the partition table
[11:25] <scnupf> hi
[11:25] <Jacruth> jetole, I guess he did it.
[11:25] <cypher-neo> paraxxo, AFAIK the regular install supports all those resolutions now. But I want to make sure of that. ;)
[11:26] <Ben64> Jacruth: you just need to create a partition, not very difficult
[11:26] <jetole> Jacruth: that's doesn't mean any data is lost
[11:26]  * Jacruth nods
[11:26] <Jacruth> jetole, really?
[11:26] <Ben64> data is likely gone
[11:26] <paraxxo> cypher-neo: i already installed lubuntu on my netbook and it doesnt support my screen
[11:26] <jetole> Ben64: no it doesn't
[11:26] <jetole> Jacruth: what Ben64 just said is wrong
[11:26] <quiescens> Jacruth: oh sorry, i did not see that part, my mistake. if the partition information was deleted without deleting the data itself then you can recover everything
[11:26] <Ben64> jetole: most likely it is gone
[11:27] <Stelpa> scarleo: ohhhhh, ty, forgot my user dir
[11:27] <damo22> unless he formatted the partition again
[11:27] <quiescens> Jacruth: but if it was properly formatted then it isn't worth the effort trying unless it is worth a lot
[11:27] <jetole> Jacruth: a partition table only exists within the first 512 bytes of a disk (at least the most common and almost universal foramt of the MS-DOS partition table does)
[11:27] <damo22> then its gone
[11:27] <lucidmadman> anyone tell me how I find out what the domain should be when logging on to to a samba share from a windows box
[11:27] <scarleo> Stelpa, yeah :)
[11:27] <Jacruth> jetole, it makes sense
[11:27] <jetole> Jacruth: this means a partition table can be written a million times over and no data on the disk is touched except that first 512 bytes
[11:27] <cypher-neo> paraxxo, According to the Ubuntu website: "you may now use the standard ubuntu desktop CD image to install on net-books with specifications such as: 1024x600 resolution
[11:28] <jetole> Jacruth: now there is a solution to recovering a lost partition table
[11:28] <cypher-neo> paraxxo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[11:28] <diverdude> cypher-neo: sorry are you still there_
[11:28] <cypher-neo> paraxxo, That was Ubuntu, not Lubuntu
[11:28] <cypher-neo> diverdude, Yes, here...
[11:28] <Jacruth> jetole, I was thinking about gparted.
[11:28] <diverdude> cypher-neo: well the system just hangs at startup
[11:28] <jetole> Jacruth: I forget the name of the tool however I will see if I can find it in a moment but it will scan your disk and find the actual partitions and then re-create the partition table
[11:28] <paraxxo> cypher-neo: but i was Lubuntu because its fast
[11:28] <jetole> Ben64: I forget the name of the tool however I will see if I can find it in a moment but it will scan your disk and find the actual partitions and then re-create the partition table
[11:28] <damo22> jetole: testdisk?
[11:28] <cypher-neo> paraxxo, Lubuntu doesn't list it's resolution on that page. Still looking.
[11:29] <Ben64> jetole: parted can attempt to recover
[11:29] <quiescens> testdisk can most likely do it
[11:29] <paraxxo> cypher-neo: thank you very much
[11:29] <jetole> damo22: doesn't sound familiar but that means nothing other then it may be one of the many tools that does just that
[11:29] <cypher-neo> paraxxo, Actually it says 800x600 for Lubuntu
[11:29] <Jacruth> Should I give it a try?
[11:29] <diverdude> cypher-neo: it hangs at * starting deferred execution scheduler
[11:30] <Ben64> you have to know where the old partition(s) started/stopped to recover
[11:30] <cypher-neo> diverdude, So it doesn't even finish booting?
[11:30] <damo22> Ben64: no you dont
[11:30] <jetole> Jacruth: I'm siding with damo22. testdisk looks like it can do exactly what you need
[11:30] <diverdude> cypher-neo: exactly
[11:30] <Ben64> damo22: yes you do
[11:30] <cypher-neo> diverdude, Uh-oh...
[11:30] <jetole> Ben64: if you need to know where the old partitions started and stopped then that's not the tool you would use
[11:30] <diverdude> cypher-neo: i tried reinstalling nvidia drivers
[11:30] <Ben64>   rescue START END                         rescue a lost partition near START        and END
[11:31] <damo22> Ben64: testdisk can recover without input like that
[11:31] <jetole> Ben64: granted gparted is great but there are tools that only need to know the disk to look at
[11:31] <Jacruth> cool!
[11:31] <cypher-neo> diverdude, Umm, this is an odd request. Try booting from the CD and see how far along in the boot you get. If you manage to boot the Live CD, click Try Ubuntu and see how far along that gets.
[11:31] <Ben64> parted != gparted
[11:31] <cypher-neo> diverdude, Out of curiousity, what are the specs on your computer?
[11:31] <bobo123> what is the difference between gnome (version 3) and gnome classic ??
[11:31] <diverdude> cypher-neo: its a lenovo W520
[11:32] <cypher-neo> bobo123, GNOME3 doesn't use Unity
[11:32] <jetole> Ben64: no it's not the same app. you are right. Who said differently?
[11:32] <jetole> Jacruth: try testdisk that damo22 mentioned
[11:32] <UidX> can pulseaudio stream an audio outside of my local network?
[11:32] <Ben64> jetole: i said parted, you said gparted
[11:32] <bobo123> cypher-neo, why are you mentioning Unity?
[11:32] <paraxxo> cypher-neo: so should i just install UNR cuz theres no lnr
[11:32] <jetole> Ben64: oh my mistake
[11:32] <diverdude> cypher-neo: ill try live boot
[11:32] <Jacruth> jetole, I'm installing it, thanks.
[11:32] <damo22> Jacruth: do you know how many partitions were there before?
[11:32] <jetole> Jacruth: No prob. Thank damo22 too
[11:32] <jetole> ;-)
[11:33] <cypher-neo> paraxxo, I would try that.
[11:33] <sarwo> tes
[11:33] <Jacruth> damo22, sdb, I supose.
[11:33] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Because you asked what the difference is, and I told you the basic difference.
[11:33] <jetole> Jacruth: sdb isn't a partition
[11:33] <jetole> Jacruth: a partition would be like sdb1, sdb2, etc
[11:33] <paraxxo> cypher-neo: can u tell me if theres any other kinds of linux netbook edition , becus ubuntu netbook runs real slow
[11:33] <cypher-neo> bobo123, My bad... You mentioned GNOME classic
[11:33] <Jacruth> sorry, language barrier.
[11:33] <damo22> Jacruth: did you split your drive into mulitple? or only 1?
[11:34] <bobo123> cypher-neo, yes
[11:34] <Jacruth> damo22, wait a second, I'll show you something
[11:34] <jetole> damo22: he ran file against it and it showed a MBR and other data to indicate it's a partitioned disk
[11:34] <cypher-neo> bobo123, The difference between GNOME3 and Classic is Classic resembles GNOME back in the GNOME2.x days (Ubuntu 10.10 and previous versions)
[11:34] <diverdude> cypher-neo: live boot works just fine
[11:34] <jetole> damo22: or at least that it's not a disk with extX on it outside of a partition table
[11:34] <diverdude> cypher-neo: i dont think anything is wrong with the computer. the problem is ubuntu
[11:34] <bobo123> cypher-neo, so how can i change the theme in gnome 3?
[11:34] <Jacruth> damo22, what about this? http://i.imgur.com/83Kde.png
[11:35] <bobo123> cypher-neo, i copied a theme in the .themes directory, but no theme is shown in the gnome-tweak-tool
[11:35] <Stelpa> scarleo: i think i got it working! :D
[11:35] <damo22> Jacruth: you can use this info to recover
[11:35] <cypher-neo> bobo123, GNOME3 is a version of GNOME that doesn't use Unity (like 11.04 to current) but uses a similar interface based on Mutter.
[11:35] <Stelpa> scarleo: ty for all the help ^_^
[11:35] <jetole> Jacruth: that looks good but you showed fdisk -l which didn't show a partition there
[11:36] <diverdude> cypher-neo: so how can i fix it
[11:36] <damo22> Jacruth: did you make that yourself AFTER trying to recover?
[11:36] <quiescens> jetole: it did, it said there was 1 extended partition, and nothing else, but its in a different language
[11:36] <Jacruth> jetole, that is why I'm a little confused. Why gparted shows them?
[11:36] <Jacruth> damo22, I didn't.
[11:36] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Take the theme out of the .themes directory. Open gnome-tweak-tool and click on the Themes tab. Install the theme by loading it directly in the tool. It will install the theme to the correct directory if it is a valid theme.
[11:36] <bobo123> cypher-neo, but it is not possible to install gnome 2 on ubuntu 11.10?
[11:37] <damo22> Jacruth: it says there are no partitions except an extended one
[11:37] <quiescens> anyway, try the testdisk thing if someone is walking you through it, and be careful
[11:37] <jetole> quiescens: ah you're right. my mistake and no hable espanol
[11:37] <ubuntu> ciaoo
[11:37] <ubuntu> !lista
[11:37] <quiescens> jetole: yeah, i was looking at it thinking the same thing
[11:37] <bobo123> cypher-neo, it will be of great help if you could tell me where is the open file button in the gnome-tweak-tool, because i can't find such button
[11:38] <diverdude> cypher??
[11:38] <diverdude> cypher-neo: +
[11:38] <cypher-neo> diverdude, Don't know. Last time I had a computer hang halfway through boot like what you describe it was a faulty video card (one that needed to be completely replaced). Time before that, it was a faulty CPU.
[11:38] <jetole> quiescens: yeah I just mis-read it is all
[11:38] <damo22> Jacruth: how big was your old drive when you were using it?
[11:38] <cypher-neo> diverdude, Both were hardware problems...
[11:38] <jetole> Jacruth: wait! stop! run: file -s /dev/sdb1
[11:38] <Jacruth> damo22, I think there is not any way to know it, I supo...
[11:38] <diverdude> cypher-neo: but if it works in live boot then i guess its not a hardware problem?
[11:39] <cypher-neo> diverdude, That's what I'm trying to test. If it's hardware or Ubuntu
[11:39] <Jacruth> jetole, http://paste.ubuntu.com/837657/
[11:39] <cypher-neo> diverdude, If it hangs on a Live CD boot, it's almost definitely hardware.
[11:39] <Jacruth> it is a x86 boot sector
[11:39] <jetole> Jacruth: just for fun, run: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[11:39] <diverdude> cypher-neo: it does not hang on Live CD boot
[11:39] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Click on the Themes tab. Do you see a load file button next to the Theme changer?
[11:40] <cypher-neo> diverdude, Well, that's good... I suppose.
[11:40] <jetole> Jacruth: and if there is no output then run: ls /mnt
[11:40] <Jacruth> jetole, it says I need to specify the filetype
[11:40] <Jacruth> I tried with ext2, ext3, ntfs and vfat
[11:40] <Jacruth> without success
[11:40] <jetole> Jacruth: meh. ok. I leave you in the hands of damo22 and testdisk
[11:40] <Jacruth> thanks
[11:40] <diverdude> cypher-neo: yes...but that leaves me with a broken ubuntu again
[11:41] <diverdude> :/
[11:41] <bobo123> cypher-neo, no there is no such button, there is only: Window Theme (Drop Down Box), Shell Theme (Not available - Shell user-extension not enabled), GTK-Theme DropDown Box
[11:41] <jetole> Jacruth: yeah if it's a known fs type it should/would have auto detected it
[11:41] <diverdude> man im gonna go for linux mint i think...hoping for fewer problems
[11:41] <cypher-neo> OH!!
[11:41] <cypher-neo> bobo123, OH!! You need to install the theme changer!
[11:41] <cypher-neo> bobo123, One sec
[11:41] <bobo123> cypher-neo, ok
[11:43] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Open your Terminal
[11:44] <Jacruth> sorry, it was a halt
[11:44] <Jacruth> testdisk isntalled
[11:44] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Type "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/gnome3"
[11:44] <bobo123> cypher-neo, ok
[11:44] <share> I am looking for a DVB-T receiver with remote that works in Linux
[11:44] <bobo123> cypher-neo, i think i already added this repository
[11:44] <bobo123> cypher-neo, which package should i install?
[11:44] <bobo123> cypher-neo, apt-get install ????
[11:45] <damo22> Jacruth: for fun type sudo fdisk /dev/sdb1
[11:45] <damo22> then press p and enter
[11:45] <scarleo> Stelpa, great!
[11:46] <Jacruth> wait, wait
[11:46] <Pooky5> guys, how can I login as guest in console?
[11:46] <scarleo> Stelpa, np
[11:46] <cypher-neo> bobo123, "apt-get install gnome-shell-extensions-user-theme"
[11:46] <cypher-neo> bobo123, If that doesn't work, I have a secondary PPA which has that package
[11:47] <Jacruth> damo22, can't read /dev/sdb1 (it exists)
[11:47] <Drakalen> hi all
[11:47] <Drakalen> anyone from Poland?
[11:47] <damo22> Jacruth: okay
[11:47] <bobo123> cypher-neo, no there is no button
[11:48] <Jacruth> what about this, damo22 : http://i.imgur.com/b69Cw.png
[11:48] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Did that package work?
[11:48] <bobo123> cypher-neo, no it didn't
[11:48] <Ben64> damo22, Jacruth: sdb1 is an extended partition, you can't do anything to it
[11:48] <Ben64> Jacruth: should be intel
[11:49] <damo22> Jacruth: yes
[11:49] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Okay try this one
[11:49] <Jacruth> okay, I'm going to select "analyse"
[11:49] <bobo123> cypher-neo, ok which one?
[11:49] <cypher-neo> bobo123, "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:satyajit-happy/themes"
[11:49] <damo22> Jacruth: what are your options
[11:49] <cypher-neo> bobo123, sudo apt-get update
[11:49] <cypher-neo> bobo123, sudo apt-get install gnome-shell-extensions-user-theme
[11:50] <Drakalen> Anyone from poland? I need helb...
[11:50] <Drakalen> help*
[11:50] <Dr_willis> !pl
[11:50] <Jacruth> damo22, very few options, but one of them is to analyse and it is reading the cylinders
[11:50] <Drakalen> thanks
[11:51] <damo22> Jacruth: ok
[11:51] <bobo123> cypher-neo, no nothing changed
[11:51] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Okay... one sec
[11:52] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Let me find the package you need
[11:52] <bobo123> cypher-neo, ok, thanks a lot anyway
[11:52] <bobo123> cypher-neo, i gotta admit i hate GNOME 3, i am and i will be GNOME 2 fan
[11:52] <Jacruth> it will take some time, there are 91 ks cylinders
[11:52] <Jacruth> gnome 2 >> all.
[11:53] <bobo123> Jacruth, i agree with you
[11:53] <Jacruth> well, sometimes, because it weights a lot
[11:53] <Drakalen> hmm anyone can help me?
[11:53] <Drakalen> i install Ubuntu and how to boot him automatic?
[11:53] <Drakalen> (sry for bad english)
[11:54] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Okay try this...
[11:54] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Go to http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/gnome_shell/natty/main/base/gnome-shell-extensions-user-theme
[11:54] <bobo123> cypher-neo, ok i am there
[11:54] <Dr_willis> Drakalen:  did you do a WUBI install? or a normal insatall?
[11:54] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Click the ORANGE box about halfway down the page that says APT INSTALL
[11:55] <Drakalen> normal install
[11:55] <bobo123> cypher-neo, got it
[11:55] <Drakalen> because i install polish edition
[11:55] <cypher-neo> bobo123, *sigh* the package was deleted from the repository
[11:55] <bobo123> cypher-neo, should i deinstall it first?
[11:55] <Dr_willis> Drakalen:  on my systems. it boots to grub and boots ubuntu automatically..
[11:55] <cypher-neo> bobo123, You already had it?
[11:55] <bobo123> cypher-neo, in the ubuntu software center it says remove not install
[11:55] <Dr_willis> Drakalen:  you see a grub boot menu?
[11:55] <cypher-neo> bobo123, :o
[11:55] <bobo123> cypher-neo, yes i installed it already
[11:55] <Dr_willis> Drakalen:  theres no need to Msg me..
[11:55] <bobo123> cypher-neo, i installed it but nothing has changed
[11:55] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Okay. One sec. Switching gears. lol
[11:55] <bobo123> cypher-neo, it is really weird
[11:56] <Drakalen> DR_willis i don't see grub boot menu
[11:56] <Dr_willis> Drakalen:  then somthing failed during the install it seems.
[11:56] <Dr_willis> !fixboot
[11:56] <Drakalen> or maybe i must config that?
[11:56] <Dr_willis> !fixgrub
[11:56] <Dr_willis> Drakalen:  it is the default for it to set up grub and boot to ubuntu.
[11:56] <Drakalen> because when i turn on PC, he automatically run windows 7
[11:57] <Drakalen> i install "Niebiańska Nimfa" this is special edition
[11:57] <Drakalen> so maybe that is reason
[11:57] <Dr_willis> Drakalen:  no idea.  The normal default ubuntu - installs grub and sets ubuntu as the default boot item.
[11:57] <Dr_willis> Try the regular ubuntu release is my advice.
[11:57] <Raver> hey guys
[11:58] <damo22> Drakalen: if you installed win7 after ubuntu it will kill grub
[11:58] <Dr_willis> These special variants are normally not supported here.
[11:58] <Drakalen> nope i install first win7
[11:58] <Drakalen> and today Ubuntu
[11:58] <szal> Drakalen: 'lsb_release -a' please
[11:58] <bobo123> cypher-neo, any ideas?
[11:58] <Drakalen> eee where ?
[11:58] <Drakalen> xd
[11:59] <damo22> Drakalen: where did you tell grub bootloader to install to?
[11:59] <Dr_willis> His system is not booting szal :)
[11:59] <bobo123> cypher-neo, stay on line i will do a short logout
[11:59] <Dr_willis> Grub could have gotten installed to a differnt hd. or flash., or failed to install for some reason.
[11:59] <Dr_willis> the !fixgrub wilki page should walk you through the reinstalling of grub with a live cd.
[11:59] <Drakalen> when i install ubuntu
[12:00] <Drakalen> i see "Running GRUB"
[12:00] <szal> !enter | Drakalen
[12:00] <roura> i keep getting this error when i try to install Gimp using the Ubuntu Software Center [installArchives() failed: dpkg: error: reading package info file '/var/lib/dpkg/available': Input/output error]
[12:00] <cypher-neo> bobo123, You here?
[12:00] <roura> any idea how to fix this?
[12:00] <bobo123> cypher-neo, i am here
[12:00] <cypher-neo> bobo123, I have a new PPA for you... again.
[12:00] <bobo123> cypher-neo, any ideas?
[12:00] <Drakalen> ok sry ubottu
[12:00] <bobo123> cypher-neo, should i remove the gnome-shell-user-theme package before?
[12:01] <cypher-neo> bobo123, No. Keep it
[12:01] <bobo123> ok
[12:01] <cypher-neo> bobo123, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[12:01] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Terminal command, obviously.
[12:01] <bobo123> cypher-neo, done
[12:01] <roura> anyone? installArchives() failed: dpkg: error: reading package info file '/var/lib/dpkg/available': Input/output error
[12:01] <cypher-neo> bobo123, sudo apt-get update
[12:01] <Drakalen> so anyone can help me with ubuntu boot?
[12:02] <bobo123> cypher-neo, should i install it again?
[12:02] <cypher-neo> bobo123, And when it tells you there are updates to be had...
[12:02] <cypher-neo> bobo123, sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:02] <damo22> Drakalen: you need to boot a livecd and fix grub
[12:02] <cypher-neo> bobo123, I think your version of gnome-tweak-tool might be old
[12:02] <bobo123> ok i am doing an upgrade right now
[12:02] <mongy> I removed quiet and splash from grub but I still dont see the text while booting?
[12:02] <bobo123> cypher-neo, i installed it with apt-get
[12:02] <cypher-neo> bobo123, The one on the Oneiric repository is old
[12:03] <Dr_willis> !text
[12:03] <cypher-neo> bobo123, The PPA is up to date though
[12:03] <mongy> ugh
[12:03] <Drakalen> damo22: i'm now with livecd, but how fix Grub?
[12:03] <Dr_willis> mongy:  you did rerun 'sudo update-grub' after editing the grub configs?
[12:03] <cypher-neo> bobo123, The current gnome-tweak-tool is version 3.x
[12:04] <Dr_willis> mongy:  i tend touse 'noquiet nosplash nofb text'  and set the grub setting to use a text only consoel display. not the higher res franebuffer displays
[12:04] <cypher-neo> bobo123, I managed to lay my hands on 3.2, but I can't find that version in any PPA now.
[12:04] <mongy> Dr_willis, just editing the boot menu at boot time for now.
[12:04] <bobo123> cypher-neo, after the upgrade i will check the version
[12:04] <cypher-neo> bobo123, But upgrading it to version 3 should make the load menu pop up in the Themes tab
[12:04] <Dr_willis> mongy:  try  all the options perhaps. 'noquiet nosplash nofb text'
[12:05] <mongy> k
[12:05] <szal> roura: sudo dpkg clear-avail && sudo apt-get update <- you could've found that yourself on $searchEngineOfYourChoice ;)
[12:06] <roura> i seriously have no idea what any of that meaans
[12:06] <mongy> Dr_willis, lol, it gives me the boot splash.  Im testing this in a vm btw
[12:06] <mongy> Dr_willis, ah, its stopped at a text screen.  I have to ctrl alt del for it to continue and then it restarts..
[12:06] <cypher-neo> diverdude, Been thinking. Where did it hang again on boot?
[12:07] <damo22> mongy: you should have tried ctrl-alt-f1 f2 f3
[12:07] <djafar> hi
[12:07] <djafar> all
[12:08] <mongy> ok so it just stops loading anything just about when login screen should appear.  nevermind...
[12:08] <damo22> mongy it might be loading logins on different console
[12:08] <roura> what is this doing : sudo dpkg clear-avail
[12:09] <szal> roura: read -> man dpkg <- all options neatly listed and explained
[12:09] <cypher-neo> bobo123, How's it going?
[12:10] <bobo123> cypher-neo, how can i see the version of the gnome-tweak-tool?
[12:10] <mongy> I'll try it on a real machine in a minute...
[12:10] <roura> szai will do thanks
[12:11] <szal> !tab | roura, and adjust your IRC font for clarity of characters ;)
[12:12] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Terminal command: sudo apt-cache showpkg gnome-tweak-tool
[12:12] <JadedJacob> good evening
[12:12] <cypher-neo> bobo123, There will be a LOT of text, but you should be able to figure it out.
[12:13] <bobo123> cypher-neo, the version is: 3.2.0-0ubuntu1
[12:13] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Excellent!!
[12:13] <bobo123> cypher-neo, but there is no button
[12:13] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Try closing gnome-tweak-tool and reopening it
[12:13] <bobo123> cypher-neo, i tried that many times
[12:15] <bobo123> cypher-neo, the upgrade is not yet finished, should i make a restart now or should i reinstall ubuntu 11.10?
[12:15] <bobo123> cypher-neo, and try everything right from start
[12:16] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Nononono
[12:16] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Let the upgrade finish
[12:16] <bobo123> cypher-neo, it has finished
[12:16] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Okay. But there's no need to reinstall
[12:16] <bobo123> cypher-neo, i opened gnome-tweak-tool nothing is changed
[12:16] <cypher-neo> bobo123, On Shell Extensions, do you see...
[12:16] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Uh...
[12:17] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Use Theme Extension? or something like that?
[12:17] <bobo123> cypher-neo, that's what i tried to tell you the first time
[12:17] <brokenhorseshoe> hi all
[12:17] <bobo123> the tab shell-extensions doesn't have nothing
[12:17] <riff> sup everyone
[12:17] <bobo123> cypher-neo, the tab is empty
[12:17] <cardiel> Someone know why is the copy speed so much slower in mc than in for ex. nautilus/krusader?
[12:18] <cardiel> i get 25mb/s on the same hardisk but from ext3 to ntfs in mc but around 40 in krusader
[12:18] <bobo123> cypher-neo, i am using right now gnome classic, and when i use GNOME there is something in the tab shell extension
[12:18] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Were you able to install gnome-shell-extensions-user-theme?
[12:18] <bobo123> cypher-neo, yes yes i have that
[12:18] <riff> i av a power saver gpu as well as an nvidia one, i installed the additional drivers for the nvidia gpu, how do i know which gpu my ubuntu is using? :|
[12:18] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Then that extension should show up in the shell extensions tab. You need to enable it, somehow.
[12:18] <bobo123> cypher-neo, the question is how?
[12:19] <stefan_> Hello there! I
[12:19] <riff> anyone? :-P
[12:19] <cypher-neo> bobo123, What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[12:19] <cypher-neo> bobo123, 11.10?
[12:19] <bobo123> cypher-neo, 11.10
[12:19] <cypher-neo> bobo123, This is weird. I have not had this much trouble with enabling a simple extension before...
[12:20] <_skpl> restart gnome-shell
[12:20] <riff> wierdos
[12:20] <riff> :|
[12:20] <bobo123> cypher-neo, i will make a fresh reinstall, i think i have installed something wrong
[12:20] <stefan_> I'm currently using a HDD with Ubuntu an Windows installed on it. Now I've bought a SSD and want to install Ubuntu on it and keep Windows on the HDD. How should I proceed? Just install Ubuntu on the SSD and it will detect Windows on the HDD and put it into the bootloader or is there anything I have to consider?
[12:20] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Wait
[12:20] <bobo123> i reinstalled it yesterday, it wont
[12:20] <cypher-neo> Try what _skpl said
[12:20] <bobo123> cypher-neo, how can i do that?
[12:21] <rumpe1> stefan_, usually it will be detected and added to the booloader menu
[12:21] <_skpl> alt-f2 then type r and press enter, but close gnome-tweak-tool first
[12:21] <_skpl> restart, then re-open gnome-tweak-tool, then enable the user theme extension
[12:21] <bobo123> ok i will restart now
[12:21] <cypher-neo> bobo123, REstart the computer... or "Alt-F2" press r and hit enter
[12:21] <cypher-neo> _skpl, Thanks ;)
[12:21] <roura> I keep being denied permission while trying sudo dpkg clear-avail ??
[12:22] <rumpe1> stefan_, also you should consider to activate the "discard" mount parameter for the partitions on the ssd, if you  use ext4 filesystem.
[12:22] <cypher-neo> _skpl, I forgot about needing to restart the shell
[12:22] <Chipzzz> has anyone run ubuntu from a usb drive & can they comment on speed vs running on a hard disk?
[12:23] <bobo123> cypher-neo, i restarted the computer, but nothing changes
[12:23] <bobo123> cypher-neo, i restarted the computer, but nothing changed
[12:24] <bobo123> cypher-neo, gnome 3 is really getting on my nerves
[12:24] <cypher-neo> Chipzzz, USB drive is faster
[12:24] <expertarun> hey
[12:24] <bobo123> cypher-neo, gnome 2 was somehow better
[12:24] <cypher-neo> bobo123, Your computer is getting on my nerves too... Try going back to gnome-tweak-tool and enabling the extension.
[12:24] <cypher-neo> bobo123, If it is actually installed, it will show up.
[12:24] <Chipzzz> cypher-neo: i'm surprised to hear that... thank you