[00:32] <Cpudan80> That bosonac guy in #ubuntu
[00:32] <Cpudan80> Is wanting to compile a syn flood bot
 Lewoco: http://pastebin.ca/935913 here is the code
[00:32] <Cpudan80> Suggest ban
[00:32] <Cpudan80> He was in ##windows a minute ago
[00:33]  * PriceChild looks in
[00:35] <njan> LjL, has bosanac given you a 'revised' pastebin for th esourcecode he wants compiled?
[00:35] <njan> LjL, he was running around channel to channel asking people to compile a trojan for him to stick on his brother's PC..
[00:35] <Cpudan80> Ahh brotherly love :-)
[00:36] <LjL> njan: no, he only asked about compiling
[00:36] <njan> hmm.
[00:36] <njan> ty
[00:36] <Cpudan80> Well
[00:36] <Cpudan80> He's going to compile something viscous....
[00:37] <LjL> Cpudan80: was that in #ubuntu? missed it if so
[00:37] <nickrud> all I care about is he not waste space here.
[00:37] <Cpudan80> Damn that is spelled incorrectly
[00:37] <Cpudan80> LjL: Yes in #ubuntu
[00:37] <Cpudan80> He didn't paste the code link in #ubuntu
[00:37] <Cpudan80> that was in ##windows
[00:37] <LjL> Cpudan80: yes indeed i was asking whether the paste was in #ubuntu
[00:38] <Cpudan80> no
[00:38] <Cpudan80> That was in ##windows
[00:38] <LjL> i'll highlight, but as long as he isn't explicitly asking about something illegal, he's staying
[00:38] <Cpudan80> Ok well
[00:38] <Cpudan80> Just thought you'd like the heads up
[00:39] <LjL> sure, thanks
[00:40] <Cpudan80> LjL: It happened before you joined ##windows btw --- if you want a log I can give it to you
[00:41] <njan> Indeed, after I told him to stop asking for people to compile sdbot for him, he's switched to asking in various channels how to cross-compile things.
[00:41] <PriceChild> he moved onto #defocus
[00:41] <LjL> no need, i believe you, but i'm not acting on something that happened on other channels
[00:41] <Cpudan80> LjL: Right --- I understand
[00:41] <Cpudan80> Interesting
[00:41] <Cpudan80> He really wants this thing compiled doesnt he...
[00:42] <Cpudan80> Too bad it prob wont work
[00:42] <Cpudan80> The code is a mess
[00:42] <LjL> funny thing is, the command i gave him should indeed work
[00:42] <LjL> bet he hasn't tried it
[00:42] <Cpudan80> It probably didnt work lol
[00:42] <Cpudan80> It probably errored out
[00:42] <nickrud> hm, what's the penalty for aiding and abetting ;)
[00:42] <Cpudan80> And now he's stuck lol
[00:43]  * LjL bets he's coming back with another nickname
[00:43] <Cpudan80> He is now known as whah
[00:43] <nickrud> beat me Cpudan80
[00:43] <LjL> Cpudan80: you're late - he quit now
[00:43] <Cpudan80> I told him that changing his nick wouldn't fool us
[00:43] <Cpudan80> He made up some lame excuse
[00:44] <njan> nickrud, at least where I am, the CMA makes assisting in committing an offence under section 1 or 2 of the CMA punishable by up to two years in prison.
[00:44] <njan> At least, the amended version of it does.
[00:44] <njan> http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.aspx?LegType=All+Legislation&title=Police+and+Justice+Act+2006&searchEnacted=0&extentMatchOnly=0&confersPower=0&blanketAmendment=0&sortAlpha=0&TYPE=QS&PageNumber=1&NavFrom=0&parentActiveTextDocId=2954345&ActiveTextDocId=2954408&filesize=4388
[00:45] <LjL> nickrud didn't know what he was going to use the compiler for, so i doubt that would apply
[00:45] <nickrud> njan: probably something similar here as well, us.
[00:45] <njan> nickrud, I'd imagine.
[00:45] <nickrud> LjL: just joking :)
[00:45] <njan> LjL, no, probably not.
[00:46] <njan> Anyway.. he's gone now, hopefully he will indeed find something better to do with his time as I suggested he do. ;)
[00:46] <njan> Night, folks. ;)
[00:46] <Cpudan80> Night njan
[00:47] <LjL> njan: like planning for a bot attack in all the channels involved? yeah, probably :)
[00:47] <nickrud> luckily we have the over ops to protect us
[00:48] <nalioth> 'over ops' ?
[00:48] <nalioth> is that anything like 'underalls' ?
[00:48] <Pici> exactly like that
[00:48] <tonyyarusso> what's an underall?
[00:48] <nickrud> I'll leave that you your own imagination
[00:48] <Pici> tonyyarusso: no idea
[00:48] <nickrud> things worn close to the skin
[00:48] <nalioth> you kids, i'll tell you what . . .
[00:49] <tonyyarusso> must be a texan thing
[00:49] <nalioth> no, it was quite a popular brand name in the USA a few years ago
[00:49] <nalioth> before y'alls time, evidentally
[00:49] <Pici> nalioth: underoos?
[00:49] <nickrud> ouch
[00:49] <nalioth> no, Underalls
[00:49] <Pici> overalls?
[00:49] <LjL> beneathsome
[00:49] <PriceChild> I've only heard of overalls
[00:50] <nalioth> it was a brand name for panty hose
[00:50] <Cpudan80> Overalls was a brand name?
[00:50] <tonyyarusso> apparently I was <10 when they disappeared
[00:50]  * Pici shrugs
[00:50] <Cpudan80> I didnt know that
[00:50] <PriceChild> no idea, word at least though
[00:50] <nalioth> Cpudan80: "Underalls" (see scrollback)
[00:50] <Cpudan80> oh right right

[00:50] <Cpudan80> rofl
[00:50]  * nalioth returns to his crypt
[00:50]  * nickrud was always curious about the level of convo in ops, and is learning
[00:51] <nickrud> nalioth sets the tone ;)
[00:51] <LjL> nalioth: const char *key, const char *salt
[00:51] <PriceChild> nalioth: has a crypt!
[00:51] <LjL> returns pointer to char
[00:51] <nalioth> i suggest you take your geritol around these young fellows, nickrud, they're way quick
[00:51] <Cpudan80> lol
[00:51] <nickrud> nalioth: I always do
[00:52] <nickrud> back to work. see you all. This was a longer break than I intended. As always, interesting and enjoyable
[00:53]  * Seeker` should do some crypto work
[00:53] <PriceChild> Seeker`: but do you have a crypt to do it in?!
[00:53] <Seeker`> No :( That makes me sad :(
[00:53] <PriceChild> We'll find you one one day :(
[00:55] <LjL> [01:55:34] [Notice] -ChanServ- Channel [#crypt] is private
[00:55] <LjL> obviously
[01:15] <ubotwo> In #ubuntu, dooglus said: !locale is wrong - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf - E: Couldn't find package localeconf
[01:19] <LjL> !locale
[01:19] <ubotwo> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[01:19] <LjL> !info localeconf
[01:19] <ubotwo> Package localeconf does not exist in gutsy
[01:20] <LjL> well i haven't a clue what the right package would be
[01:27] <Seeker`> LjL: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=localeconf&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[01:27] <Seeker`> looks like its gone
[01:28] <Seeker`> Maybe it was included as part of something else
[01:35] <Jucato> !test
[01:35] <ubotwo> Failed.
[01:47] <LjL> [02:46:09] <majkoebac> LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59087/plain/ <----- here its the error when i type sudo apt-get install build-essential [02:46:37] <LjL> majkoebac: that's not an error, it's simply asking you to insert the Ubuntu CD. [02:47:05] <majkoebac> LjL, so what to do?
[01:48] <LjL> and then sometimes i wonder why i'm not as active in #ubuntu as i once was
[01:48] <LjL> what a stupid question to ask
[01:49] <LjL> jrib, for your collection
[01:52] <jrib> #72
[01:53] <Hobbsee> hah
[01:56] <jrib> "how do i pass memtest?"   that's a recent favorite.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59089/
[01:56] <Jucato> :)
[02:00] <LjL> i'd have some pearls if i had done this too... now it would be quite a mess to find them in the logs :)
[02:09] <Seeker`> jrib: nice
[02:09] <LjL> some people who either are trolls or like to feed them have this standard "welcome to my ignore list" response
[02:10] <LjL> if i were one of them, i guess i'd have "welcome to my highlight list"
[02:17] <LjL> !nodeco is <reply> If you're missing windows decorations after enabling Desktop Effects with an NVIDIA card, try « sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24 » in a !shell.
[02:17] <ubotwo> LjL: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[02:17] <LjL> why don't you die
[02:17] <LjL> !nodeco is blah
[02:17] <ubotwo> I'll remember that, LjL
[02:17] <LjL> !no nodeco is <reply> If you're missing windows decorations after enabling Desktop Effects with an NVIDIA card, try « sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24 » in a !shell.
[02:17] <ubotwo> I'll remember that LjL
[02:22] <LjL> EEEW
[02:22] <LjL> did we lose half of our banlist or something
[02:22] <PriceChild> Hmm?
[02:22] <LjL> [03:21:34] --> PaulTag has joined this channel (i=8f69ac12@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-8b2eda302e513b01).
[02:22] <LjL> no, he's not exempted
[02:22] <LjL> and the banlist is much shorter than it should be, here, although i thought it was just konversation messing up after the big netsplits
[02:23] <LjL> but perhaps it's the network messing up after the big netsplits
[02:23] <Cpudan80> LjL: You lost the gateway web one
[02:23] <LjL> Cpudan80: well i doubt there's only one lost
[02:23] <PriceChild> LjL: there was a clearup, the limit was reached again
[02:23] <LjL> PriceChild, surely the cleanup wouldn't include bans such as that?
[02:23] <PriceChild> No idea, wasn't here afaik.
[02:24] <Cpudan80> Is it really necessary to have all those bans?
[02:24] <LjL> seveas did it, didn't he
[02:24] <LjL> Cpudan80: quite so, yes
[02:24] <Seeker`> Cpudan80: #ubuntu gets an awful lot of trolls
[02:25] <Cpudan80> Yes but all these single host bans
[02:25] <Cpudan80> like *!*@IP
[02:25] <LjL> Cpudan80: i remove those after a month
[02:25] <Cpudan80> Oh
[02:26] <Cpudan80> Why is the bot banned
[02:26] <Cpudan80> or well muted
[02:26] <LjL> because it's broken
[02:26] <Cpudan80> it is?
[02:26] <LjL> quite
[02:26] <Cpudan80> :-(
[02:26] <Cpudan80> When did it break?
[02:26] <Cpudan80> I'm talking about ubotu
[02:26] <LjL> yes, ubotu is broken
[02:26] <Cpudan80> :-(
[02:26] <LjL> it broke yesterday
[02:27] <PriceChild> LjL: putting the mibbit forward back on?
[02:27] <LjL> PriceChild: yes, but first trying to find out how many bans we lost
[02:28] <PriceChild> I think near 150
[02:28] <LjL> there is no 83.230.* either
[02:28] <LjL> ¤%&
[02:29]  * PriceChild growls
[02:30] <LjL> ok right now it should be 299 bans
[02:30] <nalioth> LjL: we pulled the 83.230 ban earlier
[02:30] <LjL> the limit is?
[02:32] <Seeker`> LjL: There were 343 the other day I believe
[02:32] <Seeker`> Or at least thats what /mode +b said
[02:33] <LjL> [03:33:02] [Notice] -ChanServ- 31  *!*unagi*@*                         correcting*other*versions
[02:33] <LjL> who's correcting other versions
[02:33] <LjL> *!*unagi@* was on purpose
[02:36] <LjL> -bbbb syf*!*@* *!*fuck*@*!#ubuntu-ops *!?=shit@*!#ubuntu-ops livingdaylight!*@*
[02:36] <LjL> something i'm missing, really
[02:36] <crdlb> autorem list?
[02:36] <LjL> i pretty much think if everyone cleared dynamic-looking bans by the month like i do, we wouldn't need to do things like this
[02:36] <Seeker`> why was livingdaylight banned?
[02:36] <LjL> no, removed bans
[02:37] <Seeker`> @btlogin
[02:37] <LjL> he was banned ages ago, with pretty good reasons
[02:37] <PriceChild> Seeker`: ridiculous troll
[02:37] <crdlb> I mean, were they added to the autorem list?
[02:37] <LjL> no
[02:37] <Seeker`> PriceChild: Seems to have been in -uk for a while
[02:41] <tonyyarusso> Hobbsee: care to tell me about hosts now?
[02:45] <nalioth> hosts?
[02:45] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: web hosting
[02:45] <nalioth> ah
[02:50] <Seeker`> wb LjL
[02:54] <nalioth> Seeker`: he didn't leave
[02:54]  * nalioth wishes people would quit responding to mechanical difficulties
[02:55] <Cpudan80> tonyyarusso: Dont go iPowerWeb
[02:55] <Cpudan80> A bunch of idiots over there
[02:55] <Cpudan80> Every time I turn around they've broken something
[03:01] <tonyyarusso> I've never even heard of it.
[03:04] <nalioth> anyway, tonyyarusso already has superior hosting
[03:04] <nalioth> ...that he never uses
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: that's not "hosting"...
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> that's a build environment
[03:07] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: you have access to more stuff than you can shake a stick at
[03:08] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: but would you _want_ me running web sites and irc bots there?
[03:09] <nalioth> irc bots are fine (i'm running 3)
[03:09] <nalioth> websites would be slower than frozen moleasses
[03:09] <tonyyarusso> hmm, will keep in mind
[03:09] <tonyyarusso> I'd love to find somewhere that can do both, but don't have that yet.
[03:09] <tonyyarusso> I was hoping silenceisdefeat would be sufficient for the latter, but they apparently aren't that reliable.
[03:43] <nickrud> Seveas has to stop having a life
[03:49] <Pici> aaahhhh
[04:11] <band4life> LjL?
[04:16] <RoAkSoAx> hello!!
[04:16] <RoAkSoAx> is anyone around?
[04:16] <jrib> RoAkSoAx: best to just ask and wait
[04:17] <Pici> RoAkSoAx: I believe jpatrick has a spanish bot by the name of botijo
[04:17] <Pici> Although, I barely understand spanish, so I'm not sure if it has the same functions
[04:18] <RoAkSoAx> Pici, yeah but i believe it does not have the same functions
[04:18] <RoAkSoAx> that's why i was thinking on translating ubotu into other languages such as spanish
[04:19] <jrib> ubotu can have channel-specific responses right?  The issue is probably that the bot gets laggy with too many channels.
[04:20] <Pici> I thought ubotu was having issues today
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> jrib: yes.  !factoid-#channel is foo
[04:20] <jrib> that too
[04:20] <RoAkSoAx> it was
[04:20] <nalioth> ubotu has been having issues for 2 days now
[04:20] <jdong> it's that time of the month for ubotu.
[04:20] <RoAkSoAx> lol
[04:21] <jrib> RoAkSoAx: in any case, you can always run your own ubotu
[04:22] <RoAkSoAx> jrib, yeah i was thinking about it too, the thing is that i will need to know how the bot is configurated and the factoids so that i can translate them to spanish
[04:23] <Pici> RoAkSoAx: http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/ and https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots/
[04:23] <RoAkSoAx> let's see
[04:23] <RoAkSoAx> thanks for the link Pici ;)
[04:24] <RoAkSoAx> and, is it a way to setup The Ubuntu IRC Bots project for translation in Launchpad??
[04:25] <Pici> That.. I do not know.
[04:26] <jrib> that's an interesting project, setting up some interface to keep the translations in-sync
[04:27] <RoAkSoAx> jrib, yeah like translations of Ubuntu packages (since I'm a Official Translator to Spanish) , would be good to have bots available in other languages
[04:27] <RoAkSoAx> and off course i will like to translate them :D
[04:34] <RoAkSoAx> but anyway, do you who can i talk with to make this happen?
[04:35] <Pici> RoAkSoAx: Seveas is the one who designed the bot, but hes not around right now
[04:36] <RoAkSoAx> Pici, yeah, but what about making translations for bots available in LP?
[04:37] <Pici> RoAkSoAx: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots/   But like I said, hes not online right now.
[04:38] <RoAkSoAx> ok thannks for help, i'll be around :)
[05:20] <Myrtti> er?
[06:02] <nickrud> tonyyarusso: on the subsume thing, I'd kicked him and talked with him after that stuff bazhang is talking about.
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Ah, ok.
[08:14] <ubotwo> _ruben called the ops in #ubuntu
[10:07] <ubotwo> Ng called the ops in #ubuntu+1
[10:14] <Daviey> That was as much OT as it gets.
[10:14] <jpatrick> Pici: botijo is ubotu in Spanish
[11:15] <Pici> jpatrick: Thats what I thought.  I think RoAkSoAx wanted a 1 to 1 translation of the factoids though.
[11:46] <Hobbsee> tonyyarusso: what do you want to know?
[11:46]  * Hobbsee wasn't there
[12:08] <Tm_T> mmmmgh, I hate this, I still don't have funny hat rights in u-ot
[12:17] <jussi01> hmmm, anyone else getting weird pm's from pratama?
[12:17] <Pici> Noop
[12:18] <jussi01> I joined #ubuntu with my alt nick, suddenly pming me...
[12:19] <Pici> I dont see anyone with that name in #ubuntu
[12:19] <Pici> and I just /cycled
[12:19] <jussi01> [03/10/08 14:14:35] *** pratama<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit ["Ex-Chat"]
[12:20] <Pici> What kind of messagE?
[12:21] <jussi01> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59125/
[13:46] <LjL> why is ubotu not in -ot?
[13:47] <Tm_T> who knows
[13:47] <Tm_T> ubotu: test
[13:47] <Pici> The bot has not been well.
[13:47] <jdong> no it has not
[13:47] <Pici> I wasn't around when he fell ill, but we've been using ubotwo
[13:47] <jdong> is he in -devel?
[13:47] <Tm_T> she?
[13:48] <jdong> lol
[13:48] <LjL> it should be everywhere, just unresponsive
[13:48] <LjL> with ubotwo actually doing the factoids
[13:48] <LjL> but ubotu can still be used for the bantracker
[13:48] <Pici> Tm_T: ubotu just doesnt sound like a womans name, sorry.
[13:48] <jdong> LjL: two should probably be in -devel?
[13:49] <jdong> and tu should be muted
[13:49] <Pici> Yes.
[13:49] <LjL> jdong, i do it on an on-ask basis.
[13:49] <LjL> are you asking? :)
[13:49] <jdong> LjL: meh not particularly, just in case people want to use bugtracker in -devel
[13:49] <LjL> usual problem in -devel
[13:49] <LjL> i can't get access
[13:50] <jdong> ah
[13:51] <LjL> could ask ubotu to leave, but yesterday i was told (about #k-d) that it would be better to leave it there for the bantracker...
[13:51] <jdong> ah
[13:51] <jdong> the bot needs a shutup command :)
[13:51] <LjL> jdong: the bot has a very weird permissions scheme
[13:52] <LjL> jdong: you need to have the #channel,op capability to do that sort of things
[13:52] <jdong> weird
[13:53] <LjL> look i'll just make it part
[13:53] <LjL> i really don't think there will be so much bannination going on in there
[13:55] <Laughed> Im back, whats up Jack???
[13:57] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: ^ for you?
[13:57] <Pici> IndyGunFreak: Whats up?
[13:58] <IndyGunFreak> nada, just bored.
[13:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Yep.. no issues...
[13:58] <Laughed> Hey you two, since Im here just wanted to say you guys are awesome
[13:58] <Pici> IndyGunFreak: /topic
[13:58] <Pici> :)
[13:58] <Laughed> see you on the floor
[13:58]  * Pici waves
[13:58] <Pici> That was nice
[13:58] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[13:59] <IndyGunFreak> i'm aware o the topiic... i'm out..
[13:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Considering it was after a ban.. yes
[13:59] <IndyGunFreak> but thre seems to be a lot of people who just *hang out* here.
[13:59] <Jack_Sparrow> I did ask to msg him
[13:59] <LjL> IndyGunFreak: like... the ops?
[14:00] <IndyGunFreak> and non-ops
[14:00] <Pici> IndyGunFreak: The non-ops who are here are operators in non-core #ubuntu channels.
[14:00] <LjL> or bots.
[14:00] <IndyGunFreak> ic..
[14:01] <Pici> Or bots
[14:01] <IndyGunFreak> oh well, later.
[14:01] <Pici> Or people we can't get rid of
[14:01] <Pici> mc44
[14:01] <LjL> Pici: sssh, it's logged.
[14:01] <Pici> Pici: sshh I know
[14:01] <LjL> Pici: ssh is better than telnet
[14:01] <Pici> I know.
[14:02] <LjL> it's true, can't get rid.
[14:02] <Mez> :O
[14:02] <Pici> I caught sight of telnet being used on LOST the other day.
[14:02] <Mez> auto-rejoin :(
[14:02]  * Mez installs a revolving door for mc44
[14:02] <LjL> Pici: yesterday i typed "telnet ljlhead". i haven't had telnet installed for like half a decade. sometimes my brain works in strange ways.
[14:03] <Pici> Arg, and I just typed telnet in this search box instead of 'float'
[14:03] <Mez> Pici, its more fun when you do stuff like this and wonder why it isnt working
 ps x | awk '/[p]idgin/ {print $1|"xargs kill -9"}'
 ah crap, wrong window
[14:05] <jdong> Mez: that's quite a ridiculous way of killing pidgin
[14:05] <Seeker`> lo Mez
[14:05] <Mez> jdong, it's out of habit now ;) I use it for amarok mainly (cause of all the weird run off scripts that arnet amarok, but need to be killed aswell)
[14:05] <Mez> hey Seeker`
[14:06] <Seeker`> why not just use pkill -9 pidgin
[14:06] <Mez> Seeker`, cause I'm too used to writing stuff like that now ;)
[14:06] <Mez> we all have our idiosyncrasies
[14:07] <Seeker`> heh
[14:07] <Myrtti> pkill pidgin
[14:07] <Myrtti> killall pidgin
[14:07] <Myrtti> Seeker`: software should always be given a chance to die some other way than -9
[14:07]  * jdong tries to take it to an extreme
[14:08] <Seeker`> Myrtti: Mez specified the "-9" in his command
[14:08] <jdong> ps aux | grep pidgin | awk '{print $2}' | xargs -i "kill -7 {}; sleep 2; kill -9 {}"
[14:08] <jdong> there.
[14:08] <Myrtti> blergh
[14:08] <jdong> overkill command of the day
[14:08] <Seeker`> Myrtti: how was your early morning journey
[14:08] <jdong> not nearly as bad as the command I use to extract versions out of debian/changelog
[14:08] <LjL> foreach process in {1...65535}; do if [ -e /proc/$process ]; then if grep pidgin /proc/$process/cmdline; then kill -s 9 $process; fi; fi; done
[14:09] <Myrtti> Seeker`: I'm whacked
[14:09] <jdong> LjL: NICE!
[14:09] <LjL> aside from the foreach that doesn't exist in bash
[14:11]  * jdong fixes that ridiculously
[14:11] <jdong> for process in ` python -c 'print "".join([str(i)+ " " for i in range(65536)])'`; do....
[14:11] <Mez> jdong, actually, it should be 2,2,5,5,9 to kill something
[14:12] <Mez> (its the way I always do it - and normally I dont get to the 9 - in this case I did (I crashed it by pasting in a massive regex)
[14:12] <Seeker`> You should write a brainf*ck program to kill something
[14:12] <Mez> Seeker`, ?>
[14:14] <Seeker`> Mez: ?
 You should write a brainf*ck program to kill something
[14:14] <LjL> jdong, for process in {1...65535} does work though, it's just the keyword foreach that's wrong :P
[14:14] <Seeker`> Mez: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck
[14:15] <LjL> Mez, so you're outputting raw HTML now?
[14:20] <Mez>  pdebuild --logfile ~/katapult.log -- --basetgz ~/sid.tgz
[14:21] <Mez> LjL, ? outputting raw HTML ? *confused*
[14:22] <LjL> Mez: you said ?>
[14:24] <Seeker`> hmm, mootbot no longer has a host
[14:24]  * Mez rolls eyes at LjL
[14:25] <Mez> Seeker`, what is mootbot
[14:25] <LjL> Mez: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScribesTeam/MootBot
[14:25] <Mez> oh, yeah, I know now
[14:25] <Mez> Who's in charge of it ?
[14:25] <Seeker`> I wrote the first version
[14:25] <Seeker`> someone else is hosting it, and made a few changes
[14:26] <Mez> Seeker`, so why does it no longer have a host ?
[14:27] <Seeker`> Mez: The person hosting it is no longer able to provide the server
[14:27] <Mez> :(
[14:30] <Mez> Seeker`, see /msg
[14:48] <Pici> Whats pending for ubotu to be fixed and/or whats wrong with it?
[14:48] <LjL> Pici, seveas is pending
[14:49] <nalioth> Pici: the tubes need cleaning
[14:49] <Pici> Okay.... that clears everything up then.
[15:26] <Pici> LjL: can ubotwo be joined to -bugs?
[15:27] <LjL> sure
[15:27] <LjL> it won't give the feed tho
[15:27] <Pici> It shouldnt, bugs-monitor is for that now anyways.
[15:28] <Pici> or something like that
[15:49] <Amaranth> is this ubotu2 or something?
[15:49] <Amaranth> it seems to be dying an awful lot
[15:50] <LjL> Amaranth, no, it's just a broken ubotu, ubotwo is replacing it
[15:50] <sudobash> may I please join Ubuntu again because I have run into quite a bit of interesting ubuntu problems
[15:51] <PriceChild> that's not a reason
[15:51] <PriceChild> a reason would be "because i understand whatever i did was wrong, and i'm going to not do it again because of so and so"
[15:51] <sudobash> i need to see what people think about this update crash
[15:51] <PriceChild> to your reason we say 'should have thought about that first'
[15:53] <sudobash> oh well i updated 7.04 to 7.10 on a 500 mhz celeron and it completly crashed ubuntu... It cant even get through the init process... cant even recognize a HD unless I run live CD and mount through there... it puts me at ASH and says initramfs>
[15:53] <PriceChild> this isn't a support channel, please read what i've said above
[15:53] <PriceChild> i'm not saying "no".
[15:54] <sudobash> Yes I understand that I was out of line and it will not happen again...
[15:54] <sudobash> but that doesnt really matter: <PriceChild> to your reason we say 'should have thought about that first
[15:54] <Mez> @btlogin
[15:55] <Mez> it responds nice and fast to btlogin
[15:55] <LjL> Mez, it's in the working period right now. it'll stop working in about 15 minutes
[15:57] <sudobash> what i did was say some things I shouldnt have and then did a ban evasion... I am sorry and I haven't done any more ban evasions and I am here asking to get entrance back to somewhere that can help me figure out what happened... I could just reinstall Ubuntu but I would like to try to figure out what happened and see if it could be fixed possibly so if other people have this problem I can help them
[15:58] <Mez> sudobash, your bantracker history is an interesting read
[15:58] <sudobash> ouch... thats not good.. but hey I have helped a lot of people here and I am just trying to further my knowledge so I may be of some help to others in my position...
[15:59] <sudobash> i have never seen Ubuntu crash like before and would like to know what happened... I tell you, you dont need support until you cant have it
[15:59] <sudobash> lol
[15:59] <Mez> It seems that in every log, you've been warned, and then ignored the warning.
[15:59] <Mez> !support | sudobash
[16:00] <ubotwo> sudobash: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org
[16:00] <sudobash> yes i know that is the support channel
[16:00] <sudobash> i used to help out there
[16:00] <Mez> sudobash, then please, stop trying to get support in here.
[16:01] <Mez> You need to wait quietly for the person who set your ban to come back and evaluate whether to let you back in.
[16:01] <Mez> While you do so, I suggest you read the following
[16:01] <Mez> !CoC > sudobash
[16:01] <Mez> !guidelines > sudobash
[16:01] <sudobash> ubotu down
[16:01] <sudobash> oh guess not
[16:02] <sudobash> I have read it since the ban
[16:04] <Mez> sudobash, I'd suggest coming back some other time to be fair. Ban evasion, then gloating about it, isn't exactly something we're happy to forgive easily.
[16:05] <Mez> Its been 4 days since your ban. It's not likely for it to be cleared any time in the next, oh, I dont know... week or two?
[16:06] <sudobash> alright well I use my brothers account... technically if it is on his PC and on his nick and his connection then it isnt ban evasion
[16:06] <sudobash> with his IdentD
[16:07] <sudobash> correct? to ask one question?
[16:07] <Pici> sudobash: no
[16:07] <PriceChild> that's ban evasion...
[16:07] <PriceChild> *you* are banned
[16:07] <Mez> sudobash, if it's YOU being in the channel and YOU are banned, then it is ban evasion
[16:07] <PriceChild> not your computer, not your connection, you
[16:07] <PriceChild> Mez: who set the latest ban?
[16:07] <Pici> sudobash: We discussed removing your ban in a month, not 4 days.
[16:07] <sudobash> well i dont want to pi$$ yall off
[16:07] <Pici> PriceChild: LjL and I discussed it.
[16:08] <PriceChild> cool
[16:08] <PriceChild> leave you to it then
[16:08] <Mez> PriceChild, LjL did, and we've discussed in /msg
[16:08] <PriceChild> was that needed?
[16:09] <Pici> Mez: ?
[16:09] <Mez> sorry... misfire
[16:09] <Mez> I'm not having a good day today
[16:10] <Mez> Apologies. I've got buttons that are too close to each other
[16:10] <Pici> Mez: its okay :)
[16:11]  * Mez removes the kickban button
[16:11] <Mez> **** it's 4pm already ?
[16:12] <Mez> was thinking of heading home cause I feel ill... but might as well stay around now
[16:12] <Pici><EMAIL_ADDRESS>placed in #ubuntu, dunno if sudobash was using a proxy in here
[16:13] <Mez> er, well, he has 3 bans on him in there now
[16:13] <Mez> * Bans matching<EMAIL_ADDRESS>(Wicked)
[16:13] <Mez> *<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[16:13] <Mez> * sudobash!*@*
[16:13] <Mez> ah, 2...
[16:13] <Mez> misread it
[17:10] <ubotwo> dgjones called the ops in #ubuntu
[17:10] <ubotwo> bazhang called the ops in #ubuntu
[17:30] <PriceChild> Hey p_quarles, how can I help?
[17:33] <PriceChild> (ubuntuforums mod wondering what the channel's about, talking to him now)
[17:43] <Jack_Sparrow> PriceChild, this isnt a good thing right  <adlisyakir> somebodies can help me to hack using 31337 shell
[17:43] <PriceChild> hehe
[17:43] <PriceChild> probably not
[18:07] <Pici> Well, for barely knowing perl, I think I've kludged up a script to match hostmasks against current bans
[18:08] <Pici> Possible side effects to using the script are nosebleeds, nausea, upset stomach, and death.
[18:10] <LjL> my bots, including ubotwo, are GOING DOWN for a server upgrade, downtime should be ~20 minutes if all goes well
[18:10] <Pici> LjL: okay.  Care to announce that in -irc as well?
[18:11] <nalioth> ubot3 is available
[18:11] <ubot3> Factoid is available not found
[18:11] <nalioth> ubot3 botsnack
[18:11] <ubot3> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[18:13] <LjL> in the interest of a shorter downtime - tell me if a K6 kernel will refuse to boot on an Intel :P
[18:16] <PriceChild> LjL: isn't K6 amd
[18:16] <LjL> yeah
[18:16] <nalioth> k6 kernel should run on intel
[18:17] <LjL> urgh 2.4 isn't in the repositories anymore even
[18:17] <LjL> it'd really better run :|
[18:18] <LjL> ok shutdown -h now time, haven't done anything like this in years, crosses fingers :P
[18:24] <dgjones> Hi, don't know if this was noticed, but just seen "<_mug> re. could a normal user do damage to the system except his/her own files/homedir when he types rm -R / ? what would be deleted?", somebody else added the suggestion that using sudo would cause a lot more damage
[18:24] <Pici> dgjones: I just saw it
[18:25] <dgjones> ok, i saw your comment then
[18:31]  * Mez is taking himself off the grid in half an hour. If you need me, nows the time to say
[18:34] <Myrtti> If I fall asleep on the keyboard and cause havoc, kick at will
[18:35] <Mez> lol @ Myrtti
[18:36] <Myrtti> I'm dead seriosu,                I perss space totay unaware
[18:37] <Myrtti> Tm_T: i trust you
[18:37] <Mez> Myrtti, go get some sleep. This is said as a colleague an a friend in line with the burnout policy :D
[18:37] <nalioth> just keep your cavies off the keyboard, Myrtti  ( cats are bad enough )
[18:38] <Myrtti> Mez: we're having FLUG board meeting on IRC
[18:38] <Myrtti> have to stay awake
[18:39] <Mez> cavies?
[18:39] <Mez> Myrtti, so? go sleep - it's more important
[18:39] <Myrtti> Mez: guinea pigs
[18:40] <Mez> ah
[18:40] <Mez> never heard them called that before
[18:40] <Myrtti> cavia porcellus
[18:40] <nalioth> Mez: you should get out more
[18:40] <Mez> nalioth, ?
[18:40] <Mez> nalioth, the plan is to stay in tonight :D
[19:09] <Pici> ompaul: bots are down
[19:10] <ompaul> Pici, lovely no bots no wiki
[19:10] <ompaul> what next no freenode?
[19:10] <nalioth> Pici: what bots are down?
[19:10] <Pici> nalioth: ubotwo
[19:10] <Pici> ubotu
[19:10] <ompaul> !test
[19:10] <nalioth> Pici: ubot3 works fine
[19:10]  * ompaul waits for proof :)
[19:10] <nalioth> ubot3: test
[19:10] <ubot3> Failed.
[19:10] <Pici> okay, but ubot3 isnt anywhere.
[19:10] <nalioth> because nobody has asked for it
[19:11] <Pici> nalioth: hi!
[19:11] <ompaul> nalioth, do you have any need / use for tabserv I want to nuke the box I killed off the old irc logs that were _old_
[19:11] <Pici> nalioth: could we have ubot3 in #ubuntu please?
[19:11] <nalioth> ompaul: i do not
[19:11] <ompaul> nalioth, thanks
[19:11] <Pici> I think thats the only place we really *need* a bot currently
[19:11] <ompaul> right so one other person to know
[19:12] <Pici> nalioth: thanks
[19:35] <Tm_T> mmmmmmgh
[19:35] <Tm_T> is ubot3 silent in some places?
[19:36] <Pici> Tm_T: muted perhaps
[19:37] <Tm_T> Pici: not by me
[19:37] <Tm_T> mmmmgh
[19:50] <stdin> can we get a working bot in #k please?
[19:50] <Pici> nalioth: ^
[19:50] <ompaul> stdin, no you can now merge with ubuntu :)
[19:50]  * ompaul falls over
[19:51] <Myrtti> ompaul: LOL
[19:51] <Myrtti> funniest ever
[19:51] <stdin> or maybe not :p
[19:51] <Myrtti> ompaul: high five!
[19:51] <ompaul> hehehe
[19:51]  * Myrtti tips and starts to snore
[19:51] <ompaul> sleep well
[20:25]  * jussi01 wonders if we have a need for a bot still? ( i have ubot5 sitting there)
[20:26] <Tm_T> jussi01: -fi channels please
[20:28] <jussi01> Tm_T: ole hyva
[20:28] <Tm_T> jussi01: danke sehr
[20:28] <jussi01> do we have one #k?
[20:28] <jussi01> nm
[20:32] <nalioth> Tm_T: ubot3 is in #ubuntu-fi
[20:32] <Tm_T> nalioth: but doesn't respond
[20:32] <nalioth> Tm_T: you requested this some time ago . . .
[20:32] <nalioth> ubot3 test
[20:32] <ubot3> Failed.
[20:33] <nalioth> it's working fine
[20:33] <nalioth> let me restart it
[20:33] <jussi01> Ill go ahead and remove ubot5 then?
[20:34] <nalioth> please
[20:34] <Tm_T> jussi01: when ubot3 is alive, danke
[20:34] <nalioth> Tm_T: why didn't you poke me before?
[20:34] <Tm_T> nalioth: I think I did, sorry if I didn't
[20:35] <Tm_T> my bad anyway
[20:35] <jussi01> nalioth: would you pop ubot3 into #kubuntu-fi also, so I can remove ubot5 from there?
[20:49] <r2d2rogers> Who would be the right person to talk to about locobot being MIA in a channel, if there's no response to an email to the listed address in the wiki?
[20:49] <Tm_T> MIA ?
[20:50] <r2d2rogers> No response since Thursday
[20:50] <Tm_T> aa
[20:50] <r2d2rogers> Missing in Action
[20:50] <Tm_T> seve's ?
[20:50] <r2d2rogers> cool
[20:51] <r2d2rogers> will wait till I see him then?
[20:51] <nalioth> what's a locobot?
[20:51] <Tm_T> I might be wrong in this
[20:51] <r2d2rogers> Local Community Teams IRC Bot
[20:51] <r2d2rogers> does channel logging for the LoCo team channels
[20:51] <nalioth> if seveas maintains it, it my be MIA
[20:52] <Tm_T> I don't know, but that's what came first to my mind
[20:52] <r2d2rogers> nalioth: he having issues currently?
[20:52] <nalioth> r2d2rogers: for 3 days now
[20:53] <r2d2rogers> sounds almost right, Locobot disappeared before our last meeting on Thursday
[20:56] <jussi01> nalioth: it would be nice to have ubot3 in #kubuntu-devel, if you please.
[20:58] <jussi01> thanks nalioth
[20:59] <nalioth> any time
[20:59] <nalioth> just mute ubot3 when ubotu returns
[20:59] <nalioth> don't /kick or /remove please
[20:59] <jussi01> sure
[21:00] <ubot3> In #kubuntu-fi, makinen said: !kubuntu is ubuntu kde:llä
[21:10] <Seeker`> r2d2rogers: what is the bot called?
[21:11] <r2d2rogers> locobot_4
[21:11]  * Seeker` hadn't heard of that bot before
[21:13] <r2d2rogers> no worries, we were just missing having the log published in the usual place
[21:13] <r2d2rogers> several of us log to local anyhow
[21:13] <Seeker`> r2d2rogers: you heard of mootbot?
[21:13] <r2d2rogers> we can be patient.
[21:13] <r2d2rogers> no?
[21:14] <Seeker`> r2d2rogers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScribesTeam/MootBot
[21:15] <r2d2rogers> Nice
[21:15] <r2d2rogers> Thanks
[21:15] <r2d2rogers> that might be a good solution
[21:15] <r2d2rogers> instead of logging full time
[21:16] <Seeker`> Its a great solution :) But I'm biased, as I wrote it :P
[21:16] <r2d2rogers> Cool
[21:16] <r2d2rogers> we are playing with a bot of our own, but more for learning and entertainment so far...
[22:37] <LjL> GAAAAAAH
[22:38] <LjL> i have so many expletives on the tip of my fingers i don't know where to start
[22:38] <nickrud>      why, did ban4life catch up with you?
[22:38] <LjL> err no, is that one around too?
[22:39] <nickrud> trying to reach you most nights my time
[22:39] <LjL> i've merely spent since 18 until now "upgrading my server"
[22:39] <LjL> last 45 minutes were mostly spent trying to cram an SDRAM module in
[22:39] <nickrud> why, you have some sucky 3d party repos enabled?
[22:39]  * nickrud runs and hides
[22:40] <LjL> nickrud: no, all pure debian etch. except the kernel. that's 2.4.27.
[22:43] <LjL> what's sudobash doing in -meta, and what's the deal with metabot disconnecting before splits?
[22:54]  * Mez is back
[22:55] <Mez> I think he's just trying to be annoying
[23:01] <Seeker`> lo Mez
[23:01] <Seeker`> good evening?
[23:01] <Mez> lo
[23:01] <Mez> meh, twas ok
[23:01] <Mez> not feeling too talkative atm tho
[23:01] <Seeker`> k
[23:11] <Nameless[hire5]> Ïðèâåò
[23:11] <Nameless[hire5]> Êòî ìîæåò ïîìî÷ü íîâè÷êó â Ëèíóêñå ?:)
[23:13] <Nameless[hire5]> Ïëèç , ïîìîãèòå ! Ïðîáëåììà - óòêíóëñÿ è íå ìîãó
[23:13] <LjL> !ru | Nameless[hire5]
[23:13] <ubotwo> Nameless[hire5]: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[23:13] <nickrud> lovely name, you might want someone russian speaking have him change it
[23:14] <nalioth> why am i seeing question marks?
[23:14] <nalioth> ubot3 ru
[23:14] <ubot3> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[23:14]  * nalioth wonders what happened to his fonts
[23:14] <Seeker`> I see (what I assume is) russian text
[23:25]  * nickrud is pondering intermittent loss of some chinese ideographs
[23:27]  * nalioth has moved to a remote box.  It has no extra fonts installed  :(
[23:35] <PriceChild> nalioth: I've got that problem too :(
[23:36] <PriceChild> the occasional one appears, but not many
[23:41] <LjL> PriceChild: what, russian or chinese?
[23:41] <PriceChild> both
[23:41] <LjL> PriceChild: on DejaVu?
[23:42] <PriceChild> ?
[23:42] <LjL> the font
[23:42] <PriceChild> no idea
[23:42] <LjL> should use DejaVu for decent unicode support
[23:42] <Amaranth> ubot3 ch
[23:42] <ubot3> Factoid ch not found
[23:43] <Gary> nalioth: we should hunt rich down?
[23:43] <Amaranth> we don't have a factoid for chinese?
[23:43] <LjL> Amaranth, "CH" is switzerland, and no, we don't have one for switzerland
[23:43] <LjL> !cn
[23:43] <ubotwo> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[23:43] <Amaranth> bleh, cn
[23:43] <nalioth> 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[23:53] <nickrud> !cn
[23:53] <ubotwo> For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[23:54] <nickrud> deja vu sans, still lost ideographs (did have san, I assume that's dejavu
[23:57] <LjL> nickrud: yeah it lacks a few chinese glyphs
[23:57] <LjL> but it's the best you can get that's free i'm afraid
[23:57] <LjL> it should have everything else though
[23:58] <LjL> at least, everything in common use (might not have Linear B, assuming it's made it into unicode yet)
[23:58] <nickrud> but I was getting nice complete (I assume complete) previously, most of the glyphs I have seen are not visible now. Anyway, I know it's a local issue. And linear B is available, I made an effort to fill in my unicode once :)


[13:32] <Thorneo_> got a few questions bout mythbuntu .. Can someone help with
[13:36] <Thorneo_> I would like to setup a split system with front end at my tv's and servers in server closet. Can i watch live tv on front eads with tuners in back eads?
[13:43] <Jay2k1> yeah
[13:44] <Jay2k1> that's the idea behind having frontend and backend processes separated
[13:45] <Jay2k1> you can have a combined FE/BE or separate FE and BE machines or even an backend and multiple frontends (living room, sleeping room, ...)
[13:54] <Thorneo_> ok then can I watch live tv from the tuners???
[13:57] <Thorneo_> I tryied this with mythbuntu 8.04 a few years back and I could not get them to work correctly. Is it a little easier now with 14.04?
[14:28] <Jay2k1> i don't really know
[14:28] <Jay2k1> i started with mythtv 0.24 and a combined FE/BE
[14:28] <Jay2k1> all that has changed since is i'm using 0.27 now :P
[14:28] <Thorneo_> ok thank you for all the info so far.. It has really helped me out this far..
[14:29] <Jay2k1> but the whole concept is you can have a backend machine with lots of big noisy harddrives and lots of tuners somewhere in the basement and then a few slim, efficient, silent frontend machines that can do everything a local frontend could do too
[14:29] <Jay2k1> including streaming recordings, watching live tv etc.
[22:48] <qwebirc84703> Hi - if i already have a mysql server, do i need to install the one that comes with mythbuntu? Or can I just point the software to my database?
[22:57] <superm1> qwebirc84703: you can point it at your existing one if you'd like
[23:01] <qwebirc84703> If I install Mythbuntu, won't I get another database? Or do i need to install MythTV (just backend)?
[23:03] <tgm4883> qwebirc84703: I don't have instructions to install it to another mysql server, but it should be doable
[23:03] <tgm4883> Should just need to install mythtv-backend, but we need to get the db populated somehow
[23:11] <qwebirc84703> Googling on the db population hasn't produced anything, but I would think there is a way also...


[02:05] <lifeless> keir: well, I'm heading to lunch
[02:05] <lifeless> keir: have fun!
[02:17] <keir> lifeless, i have to switch back to RL stuff for now
[03:43] <schierbeck> jelmer: ping
[10:22] <lifeless> hi i386, missed you at yum cha today
[10:23] <i386> lifeless: yeah I wasnt there!
[10:23] <i386> how are you?
[10:24] <lifeless> good
[10:25] <i386> just hacking on my project at the moment
[10:52] <acuster> d
[11:16] <acuster> Hey all,
[11:16] <acuster> in http://bazaar-vcs.org/releases/debs/feisty/
[11:16] <acuster> what's the difference between bzr*bazaar and the bzr without?
[11:31] <welterde> what does "EOF during negotiation" mean?(while doing bzr push)
[11:31] <james_w> acuster: that is just the version number.
[11:32] <acuster> ?
[11:32] <james_w> welterde: there was some sort of error. The messages need to be improved, is there more to the message?
[11:33] <acuster> bzr_0.90-1_i386.deb
[11:33] <james_w> welterde: and are you using sftp:// or bzr+ssh://?
[11:33] <acuster> vs
[11:33] <welterde> james_w: sftp://
[11:33] <acuster> bzr_0.90-1bazaar1_i386.deb
[11:33] <james_w> welterde: ok, I assume that you can ssh to the server.
[11:33] <welterde> yup
[11:34] <james_w> welterde: are you using a non-standard port?
[11:34] <welterde> no
[11:34] <welterde> it happens right after it requests the sftp subsystem
[11:35] <welterde> if that helps^^
[11:36] <james_w> acuster: the bazaar ones are a higher version.
[11:37] <james_w> welterde: is there any more error message?
[11:37] <acuster> thanks
[11:38] <welterde> james_w: just that "bzr: ERROR: Unable to connect to SSH host"
[11:39] <welterde> but thats not quite true^^
[11:41] <james_w> welterde: what is the command line you are using?
[11:42] <acuster>  /build/buildd/subversion-1.4.3dfsg1/subversion/libsvn_subr/path.c:377: svn_path_basename: Assertion `is_canonical(path, len)' failed.
[11:42] <welterde> james_w: bzr push
[11:42] <james_w> welterde: and in 'bzr info' what is the parent branch?
[11:43] <james_w> acuster: what version of bzr-svn are you using?
[11:43] <welterde> it has no parent branch^^
[11:43] <acuster> 0.4.2 and 0.4.1
[11:44] <james_w> welterde: does it have a push branch?
[11:44] <james_w> acuster: I would suggest filing a bug then.
[11:44] <acuster> thanks
[11:44] <welterde> james_w: yes<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:45] <james_w> welterde: and 'ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:45] <james_w> I believe you already said it does.
[11:45] <welterde> oh...
[11:45] <james_w> welterde: is there anything in ~/.ssh/config about this host?
[11:46] <welterde> i think it might fail, because i set the login-shell to /bin/false^^
[11:46] <welterde> silly me^^ now it works
[11:48] <james_w> :)
[11:59] <lifeless> I hate python bugs
[11:59] <lifeless> 'foo'.rfind('\n', None, None)
[11:59] <lifeless> try that
[01:03] <glogiotatidis> hello everyone, can anybody help me install a plugin?
[01:19] <lifeless> glogiotatidis: sure
[01:31] <lifeless> gnight all
[03:34] <jelmer> welterde: please try 0.4.3
[03:34] <jelmer> welterde: there have been changes in that part of the code, so chance is it's been fixed
[04:03] <welterde> jelmer: changing login-shell to /bin/zsh helped^^
[04:04] <jelmer> huh!?
[04:04] <welterde> [15:34:30]        jelmer | welterde: please try 0.4.3
[04:04] <james_w> jelmer: it was acuster that had the bzr-svn issue.
[04:04] <jelmer> ah, sorry!
[05:19] <orion_> is it possible to use bzr as a GIT frontend, not using it for anything else
[05:23] <james_w> orion_: bzr-git will allow you to do that, but it is not ready for use yet.
[06:06] <hsn_> can we see results of survey?
[06:09] <luks> http://www.surveymonkey.com/sr.aspx?sm=FDeDsLzaZ0AKNEATuA0QklWayMZKGfHcrP1U4V55jAY%3d
[06:11] <hsn_> nice
[06:19] <hsn_> i need better win install guide (click-by-click based) for my team, should i create it on wiki as AlternativeWindowsInstallGuide ?
[06:20] <hsn_> nowdays users needs to read more pages for hunting all bazaar depends
[06:23] <james_w> hsn_: please do.
[06:23] <james_w> hsn_: why not just improve the windows install guide though?
[06:24] <hsn_> beause its faster for me to start with empty page instead of merging and editing 3-4 pages
[06:30] <hsn_> currently ppl needs to hunt depend libraries from at least these pages: http://bazaar-vcs.org/WindowsDownloads http://bazaar-vcs.org/BzrWin32Installer http://bazaar-vcs.org/BzrOnPureWindows
[06:30] <hsn_> and ppl on my team are complaining about this a lot
[06:43] <adedov> hi! Please explain howto merge with bundle file'
[06:44] <luks> bzr merge path/to/bundle.patch
[06:44] <luks> or do you mean something different?
[06:44] <adedov> luks: it says me following "bzr: ERROR: Revision {...} not present in "inventory"."
[06:48] <luks> adedov, no idea, sorry
[06:48] <adedov> I made sample repository with two revisions and then created a branch of it. After that I added one revision to a branch and created a bundle with command "bzr bundle-revisions -r2..3". The resulting bundle is not applied to an original branch.
[06:50] <luks> why the -r2..3?
[06:50] <adedov> what I need instead?
[06:50] <luks> anyway, if you have a recent version of bzr, use 'bzr send' instead of 'bzr bundle'
[06:50] <luks> well, nothing :)
[06:51] <luks> it will figure out the missing revisions
[06:51] <adedov> I want to try out if I can create bundles without having remote respository.
[06:53] <adedov> Actually, I want invent a process to review code of students projects. I.e. I want make them send me a bundles without having access to a mine local branch.
[06:53] <luks> how do they get the code then?
[06:54] <adedov> They do it them-selves. I want to review. Comfortably, though.
[06:54] <luks> so you want them to send you the whole branch by mail?
[06:55] <luks> what is 'your local branch' then?
[06:55] <adedov> no, just a bundle of changes since the last review.
[06:55] <adedov> or it looks as broken idea at it root?
[06:56] <luks> not sure
[06:56] <luks> so each student has an independant project? or are they based on your code?
[06:56] <adedov> each has it own one
[06:58] <adedov> my task is code review. actually it is programming language course. I must peek language/design mistakes.
[06:59] <adedov> I had experienced some PITA with mailing tgz files. Now I think about reviewing bundles.
[06:59] <adedov> btw, "bundle" and "bundle-revisions" deprecated?
[06:59] <luks> yes
[07:00] <luks> dunno, if it's just for reviews, I'd use plain diffs
[07:01] <adedov> you may be right, but I also need build a project and look for its functionality. so the plain diffs won't work (e.g. because of added/removed files).
[07:02] <luks> I think something like "bzr send -rtag:review-X.. -o for-review.patch" should work
[07:03] <luks> and they would add a review-X tag after each review
[07:03] <adedov> ok, I shall check.
[07:04] <luks> I'm not sure about the "Revision not present in inventory" problem, though
[07:04] <luks> but it's very likely that 'bzr send' will work better
[07:05] <adedov> how to make "bzr send" not send any mail?
[07:05] <luks> bzr send -o filename
[07:05] <luks> that will generate a file
[07:10] <adedov> the same error
[07:11] <adedov> well, it seems I will need create a personal read-only branches available via internet for them.
[07:12] <luks> you could send a mail to the mailing list, there is usually not many people here over weekends
[07:13] <adedov> luks: ok, thank you very much
[07:15] <the_angry_angel> Hi guys, just wondering if someone can help shed some light on a problem. I'm using bzr on Windows (0.91) and when I try to push a repository to a linux server, over sftp only the .bzr directory appears to get copied. I've hunted through the docs and unless I'm being a huge dick, I believe it should also be copying the rest of the files in the directory? That's what it does when I try to push via a file:// path on the same machine at least.
[07:16] <dato> the_angry_angel: pushing over sftp:// and file:// is different
[07:16] <mwhudson> push only updates the branch , not the working tree
[07:16] <mwhudson> there's a push-and-update plugin somewhere
[07:16] <dato> it is expected (or, it is the current behavior) that pushing over sftp:// only pushes the .bzr directory
[07:17] <the_angry_angel> ok, excuse my ignorance as I'm starting out with bzr, but does that include the actual revisions of the files? or should I be rsync / scp'ing the working data also to my publishing server?
[07:19] <dato> the_angry_angel: the .bzr directory contains everything needed for people to be able to branch off from your server
[07:20] <the_angry_angel> So the actual working data is irrelevant :)
[07:20] <the_angry_angel> Ok, that makes sense :) thank you dato
[07:20] <dato> np
[09:30] <s|k> hi
[09:36] <s|k> why am I getting a bzr: ERROR: Permission denied: "/.bzr": [Errno 13]  Permission denied?
[09:36] <s|k> I'm trying to set up a shared repository on a remote system
[09:36] <mwhudson> well, you probably don't have write access to / do you?
[09:36] <dato> you are probably trying to push to /?
[09:37] <dato> s|k: you have probably forgotten a /~/ part in your path
[09:37] <mwhudson> what url are you passing to init-repo ?
[09:37] <s|k> my command is bzr init-repo --no-trees<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:37] <mwhudson> right, you need to specify the location on the server
[09:37] <s|k> sftp goes into the home directory for user doesn't it?
[09:38] <dato> nope
[09:38] <s|k> hrm so if I make it<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:38] <s|k> then dir is a directory in /home/user ?
[09:38] <dato> you want<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:38] <s|k> ohh
[09:38] <s|k> thanks
[09:41] <s|k> I think that worked
[09:41] <s|k> I have another question
[09:41] <s|k> I set up a special user on my remote server for bzr
[09:41] <s|k> it seems to me though that I'll have to give that user login info to everyone that I want to give 'commit access' too
[09:41] <s|k> to*
[09:42] <s|k> I'm new to bzr if you haven't noticed :P
[09:43] <s|k> my question is, is there a better way?
[09:46] <bialix> luks: ping
[10:45] <hsn_> need english speaker forr fixing my manual at http://bazaar-vcs.org/WindowsInstall
[10:45] <hsn_> manual tested on live BFU :)
[10:57] <bialix> hsn_: hi
[10:57] <bialix> I'm not english speaker, but windows maintainer of bzr
[10:58] <bialix> do you read this page? http://bazaar-vcs.org/BzrWin32Installer
[10:58] <hsn_> I am person blamed by my team for BZR too hard to install thing
[10:59] <bialix> one note: Python language - python-2.4.4.msi | Homepage
[10:59] <hsn_> and they are right, i used lot of time for geting bzr work on windows too
[11:00] <bialix> it's not exactly "Python language" -- it's Python interpreter
[11:00] <bialix> hsn_: it's shame for me to hear this
[11:00] <bialix> I use standalone bzr.exe
[11:00] <bialix> and install process for me: download installer, then run it
[11:01] <bialix> I want note that QBzr GUI is works well with bzr.exe, while bzr-gtk is not
[11:02] <bialix> QBzr is also has installer for Windows
[11:04] <bialix> hsn_: you wrote: We will use Python 2.4 branch instead of newer Python 2.5 because binaries of some additional packages are not yet available for Python 2.5.
[11:04] <bialix> probably "we are using Python 2.4..."
[11:05] <bialix> what's libraries is unavailable?
[11:05] <hsn_> i think celementtree
[11:06] <bialix_> hsn_: celementtree as well as elementtree is the part of standard python library since python 2.5
[11:06] <bialix_> you don't need to install it yourself
[11:08] <bialix_> I'm not PyGTK expert, so I can't say is all needed PyGTK libraries available for python 2.5
[11:09] <bialix_> and if you read my instructions from http://bazaar-vcs.org/BzrWin32Installer you could see that I built python-based windows installer and for paramiko too
[11:11] <hsn_> where is .exe based installer for paramiko? i see just .zip linked from that page
[11:11] <bialix_> and my version of paramiko does not require mfc71.dll ;-)
[11:12] <bialix_> from that page: "NOTE: I strongly recommend to use my version paramiko.ctypes, that use ctypes instead of pywin32. This version avoids dependency on MFC71.dll. (Binary package)"
[11:12] <bialix_> http://bialix.com/python/paramiko-1.7.1-ctypes.win32.exe
[11:13] <hsn_> this is paramiko sftp/ssh library + ctypes?
[11:13] <luks> bialix, pong
[11:14] <bialix_> this is paramiko library that use ctypes library instead of pywin32
[11:14] <bialix_> to use my version you need install ctypes on python 2.4 as well
[11:14] <bialix_> luks: hi
[11:14] <luks> hey
[11:15] <bialix_> luks: have a question about QtAssistant
[11:15] <bialix_> it wants dcf files, but I don;t know where to find it
[11:16] <luks> um, I'm actually not sure what dcf files are
[11:16] <bialix_> I installed PyQt from complete installer, as you suggested
[11:16] <bialix_> when I try to run assistant at first I have many error messages about missing html files
[11:17] <bialix_> these files for some reason was installed to C:\Program Files\PyQt4\doc, but assistant looks for them in C:\Python25\PyQt4\doc
[11:18] <bialix_> I copy these html files, but now it want dcf files
[11:18] <luks> hmm, and it didn
[11:18] <bialix_> IIUC, these dcf files used for search
[11:18] <luks> didn
[11:18] <luks> ok, one more try
[11:18] <luks> and it didn't install and dcf files?
[11:18] <luks> any
[11:19] <bialix_> no dcf files here
[11:19] <bialix_> I look into tar.gz and zip archives and found nothing inside
[11:20] <bialix_> I mean from page http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/pyqt/download.php
[11:20] <luks> I don't know, I have a full Qt here, but I expected that the installed will be fully working
[11:20] <luks> one moment, I'll try to find the dcf files I have here
[11:21] <lifeless> moaning
[11:21] <bialix_> ta-da!
[11:23] <bialix_> luks: I did refactoring for timestamp formatting as string
[11:23] <bialix_> is there better way to convert QtString to python string without this: ''.join(_date.toString(QtCore.Qt.LocalDate).toUtf8()
[11:24] <luks> unicode(_date.toString(QtCore.Qt.LocalDate))
[11:25] <bialix_> gosh
[11:25] <luks> I think str() around the .toUtf8() object should work, too
[11:25] <luks> depends where it's needed
[11:25] <bialix_> unicode is OK
[11:29] <luks> bialix, http://users.musicbrainz.org/~luks/tmp/qt.dcf (sorry it took so long, I'm on a slow gprs connection right now)
[11:29] <luks> I think putting this file to the "html" directory should make it work
[11:31] <bialix> actually assistant want several dcf, but thankyou anyway
[11:32] <bialix> assistant.dcf, designer.dcf, linguist.dcf, qmake.dcf
[11:32] <bialix> but I saw in documentation topic about add/remove those dcf, so may be I remove them for now
[11:34] <luks> yep, you can remove those
[11:34] <luks> I have also bzrlib API docs in the assistant :)
[11:35] <bialix> cool
[11:39] <hsn_> ctypes are part of py2.5?
[11:39] <luks> yes
[11:41] <bialix> luks: just sent you new patch
[11:43] <luks> bialix, umm, is ignoring _lib a good idea? there are some versioned files under it
[11:43] <bialix> luks: what's about standard Qt buttons like Close/Cancel? May be I replace them with user buttons, to have ability translate label?
[11:44] <bialix> luks, I ignore ./_lib, it's not your installer/_lib
[11:44] <luks> oh
[11:44] <bialix> I checked this
[11:44] <bialix> I hacking qbzr directly in directory where it's installed
[11:45] <bialix> so I'm able to run and test it after every change I did
[11:48] <luks> regarding the buttons
[11:48] <luks> I use something like http://rafb.net/p/WyoJzE88.html elsewhere, maybe it could be used also in qbzr
[11:48] <luks> it emulates the standard QDialogButtonBox buttons, but with gettext translations
[11:51] <bialix> place this class to util.py?
[11:51] <luks> yes. it will need some tweaks, but I think it should be usable
[11:52] <bialix> you're explicitly skip some code on win32. it's win32-uncompatible?
[11:52] <luks> no, windows and mac don't have icons on pushbuttons
[11:52] <bialix> ah, OK
[11:53] <luks> but on linux/gnome people will get the standard "close" icon, for example
[11:54] <bialix> umm, I'm still lamer in Qt. what tweaking you have in mind?
[11:54] <luks> self.tagger.style() -> QtGui.QApplication.style()
[11:55] <luks> actually, that's probably it. I don't see anything else
[11:55] <luks> maybe self.style() would work, too
[11:57] <luks> bialix, +_date = QtCore.QDateTime() -- I don't think it's a good idea to use a global instance, here
[11:57] <bialix> why?
[11:57] <luks> it would break threaded code
[11:58] <bialix> format_timestamp often called from loop
[11:58] <luks> currently there isn't any, but there used to be and probably will be again
[11:58] <luks> hm
[11:59] <bialix> I did it for performance optimization, but it's possible to change for local variable
[12:01] <bialix> so, I rework it back?
[12:01] <luks> yes, I'd feel safer to have it as a local variable


[01:36] <ry> hello, i have a ubuntu 14.04 system with a dm-crypted root disk.. -usually- prompts for password during the boot process to unlock itself, about a week ago, rather than prompting for a password it drops into a initramfs shell. i booted up with a live cd to verify everything was intact and I'm able to mount the /dev/sda3 with my password using cryptsetup, but I can't figure out how to get the install to work properly
[01:36] <ry> does anyone have any ideas/advice on how I can repair this?
[19:08] <czajkowski> ry: pretty kuch a dead channel at the weekend
[19:08] <ry> =z
[19:08] <czajkowski> ry: #ubuntu is a support channel may be better at this time of the day
[19:08] <ry> i asked last night, didn't have much luck
[19:09] <ry> i didn't fix the issue, though i learned a little more about LUKS in the process
[19:10] <ry> kind of a crazy issue to have... and i'm sure the fix was something so straght forware
[19:10] <ry> straight forward*
[19:33] <ali1234> ry: you need to identify the problem of course...
[19:34] <ali1234> what was the last thing you did before it stopped working?