[16:32] <newz2000> did I miss anythign while I was offline?
[17:09] <rugby471> newz2000: thanks for choosing my design :-)
[17:10] <rugby471> (I am Andrew)
[17:10] <rugby471> newz2000: once question, which of the colours do you want mine to be (I presume the original colour?)
[17:11] <newz2000> rugby471: hi rugby471, nice to meat you
[17:11] <newz2000> yes, the original colour was the most liked
[17:11] <rugby471> newz2000: nice to *meat* you too :-)
[17:11] <newz2000> Do you think you'll have time to pull the chagnes together and complete them?
[17:11] <newz2000> oops
[17:11] <rugby471> newz2000: cool thanks
[17:11] <newz2000> sorry, multi tasking
[17:11] <rugby471> hehe np
[17:12] <newz2000> and it's near lunch time
[17:12] <newz2000> lol
[17:15] <rugby471> newz2000: I should be able to yes :-)
[17:16] <newz2000> awesome, if you need anything, ping me or kwwii
[17:16] <newz2000> When you name your images if you could follow the convention of the past versions it would be a big help... let me get that for you
[17:17] <rugby471> newz2000: no need, I am using thorwil's template so it should be fine :-)
[17:17] <newz2000> ok, great
[17:17] <newz2000> or maybe I should say Grate!
[17:18] <rugby471> newz2000: hehe
[17:20] <rugby471> newz2000: how far down do you want the spotlight?
[17:21] <rugby471> newz2000: could you do me a demo (ie. just a red line where it should be?)
[17:21] <newz2000> let's see if kwwii can give some guidance on this ^^
[17:21] <rugby471> kwwii: and also what do you want resting above the spotlight, the number of days or the text?
[17:23] <newz2000> he may be at dinner now so I'd say just do your best guess
[17:23] <newz2000> centering the numbers horizontally where they're at should be good
[17:24] <newz2000> his comments to me were that it felt very dark and that moving the spotlight down should help that
[17:24] <rugby471> newz2000: ok
[17:24] <rugby471> newz2000: if he comes back, could you email his comments to me? I ahve to leave in half-an-hour
[17:24] <rugby471> *have
[17:25] <newz2000> rugby471: yes, will do. What's your email address?
[17:25] <newz2000> you can private message it to me if you like
[17:27] <rugby471> newz2000: none last question, when do you need to have these banners to you?
[17:27] <newz2000> Do you think you can do it in the next 1.5 days?
[17:27] <newz2000> Sometime thursday we'd like to go live
[17:28] <rugby471> newz2000: in that case, I shall wait for the input of Kenneth, as what I have at the moment isn't quite right
[17:28] <newz2000> ok
[17:30] <rugby471> kwwii: if/when you come back, if you wish to play with the svg, the source is here: http://pastebin.com/m29003d1a
[17:40] <kwwii> hi
[17:40] <kwwii> let me read the log...one moment
[17:41] <kwwii> ok, so my suggestion with the spotlight is to move it down a bit so that it looks like the text is setting on the floor
[17:41] <kwwii> ie, just move the pic down about 10% or so
[17:42] <kwwii> ie, cropping the bottom part which is black
[17:42] <kwwii> unless, of course we use that dark space to put some very bright text or such
[17:43] <rugby471> kwwii: do you need time to think it through/play with it?
[17:45] <kwwii> rugby471: not really...it is a pretty simple change
[17:45] <kwwii> just make sure that the spotlight area is below the text
[17:46] <rugby471> kwwii: okay, I shall do one, get you to see it and then if it is okay, do the rest
[17:48] <kwwii> rugby471: cool
[17:48] <kwwii> btw, I just noticed that you didn't copy the pic, you remade it
[17:48] <kwwii> nice
[17:49] <rugby471> kwwii: yeah, though part of the reasoning for that was probably because I couldn't find any sources for it :-)
[17:49] <kwwii> rugby471: I'm playing with it as we speak...let me finish up my ideas and then send it to you
[17:51] <rugby471> kwwii: ok
[17:52] <kwwii> http://sinecera.de/banner_mod1.svg
[17:52] <kwwii> I just did the first one
[17:52] <kwwii> to explain what I mean
[17:52] <kwwii> I also added a glow to the number, etc
[17:53] <kwwii> newz2000: does my mod seem to express what we discussed?
[17:53] <kwwii> or have I gone down the wrong road? :p
[17:54]  * newz2000 checks
[17:55] <knome> newz2000, hello :)
[17:56] <newz2000> hi knome
[17:56] <knome> newz2000, if you want that animated banner and need help with the js, i think markus (rime) can help once again
[17:56] <newz2000> Well, he is awesomeness in human flesh
[17:57] <knome> ;)
[17:57] <newz2000> kwwii: don't suppose you can spit out a png can you? I'm in another OS and inkscape isn't working atm
[17:58] <rugby471> newz2000: ANOTHER OS!!
[17:59] <newz2000> I know, I know. Sometimes I have to dual boot
[17:59] <rugby471> newz2000: hehe
[17:59] <knome> newz2000, what are the pulse slides, acutally? :)
[17:59] <rugby471> newz2000: http://i33.tinypic.com/wlsjew.png
[18:00] <newz2000> thanks rugby471, kwwii: looks fine to me
[18:00] <kwwii> hrm, the spot light still needs to go down a bit
[18:00] <kwwii> rugby471: btw, I reversed the gradient on the bg as well
[18:00] <rugby471> kwwii: if you send me the final version, I can set it up in my svg template
[18:00] <kwwii> rugby471: play with it a bit, see what feels best for you
[18:00] <newz2000> I'll let you guys decide if the glow helps, I think it removes the sharpness of the text which may be good or bad
[18:01] <kwwii> rugby471:ok, I'll post an update in a bit
[18:01] <rugby471> newz2000: yeah I agree, it is kwwii's decision though, it he the art guy :-)
[18:01] <rugby471> it he > he is
[18:01] <rugby471> kwwii: could you send it to me, I have to leave soon?
[18:01] <newz2000> well, you're the artist here. You can push one way or another
[18:02] <kwwii> rugby471: yes, give me a second and I will post another svg
[18:02] <rugby471> newz2000: well I just feel either way it is good and I probably have some bias to the original as it was my own drawing :-)
[18:02] <newz2000> knome: just a sec, getting the source for you...
[18:02] <rugby471> kwwii: oh okay I shall wait for it then :-)
[18:02] <newz2000> I'm biased the same way so unless kwwii jumps and shouts do it w/out glow
[18:03] <knome> newz2000, okay. i'm gonna ask rime to join here, so you two/we three can discuss it together
[18:03] <knome> i don't know if he will be online anymore today though
[18:03] <newz2000> knome: here's the images I was referring too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/KarmicCountdownBanners#thorwil%27s%20Slideshow
[18:05] <newz2000> The wide continuous image may be perfect... I can optmize that down to 10k I think by going 8bit
[18:05] <kwwii> rugby471: http://sinecera.de/banner_mod2.svg
[18:06] <kwwii> I gotta run to the store, bbiab
[18:06] <newz2000> knome: that will reduce the number of needed images (and hits to the server)
[18:06] <newz2000> thanks kwwii
[18:06] <knome> newz2000, okay. :)
[18:06] <kwwii> newz2000: glad to help
[18:07] <knome> newz2000, rime is going to join in few minutes
[18:07] <knome> newz2000, not a problem to create that, he said
[18:08] <rugby471> newz2000: see ya
[18:08] <newz2000> thanks rugby471, catch you later
[18:15] <knome> newz2000, i suppose it would be better if the lines in the continuous image would end "outside" the image
[18:15] <knome> newz2000, now when you slide the last frame in, it would look weird as it doesn't have those lines
[18:15] <newz2000> yes, good point
[18:16] <newz2000> let me see if thorwil included his source
[18:16] <newz2000> he did!
[18:16] <newz2000> You guys can go ahead and work with wha tyou have... it won't look quite right but we'll work out the final graphics
[18:16] <knome> newz2000, as i said, rime will join in here in a few minutes
[18:16] <newz2000> ok
[18:16] <knome> and we'll sort it out right away
[18:18] <newz2000> knome: ok, I'm going to break to grab a bowl of rice and stretch my legs, will be back shortly
[18:18] <newz2000> leave me any questions and I'll respond when I return
[18:25] <knome> okay
[18:51] <knome> newz2000, http://markus.alshain.fi/markus/deve/slider/slider01.html
[18:52] <thorwil> ah, that's nice
[18:52] <thorwil> knome: ideally there should be a black 1px border around the whole thing
[18:52] <thorwil> and the text should not slide, but fade in/out in place
[18:53] <knome> "the text"?
[18:53] <knome> the last frame or text in each frame?
[18:53] <thorwil> knome: "for your *"
[18:53] <knome> thorwil, how quickly should it appear/disappear?
[18:54] <thorwil> knome: text of each slideshow frame, but not the countdown image at the end
[18:54] <knome> okay.
[18:54] <knome> rime is here, so you can also ask him directly
[18:54] <newz2000> hey, great work rime!
[18:54] <rime> np
[18:54] <thorwil> knome: whatever feels right as timing. i would have to try that out myself
[18:55] <thorwil> hi rime
[18:55] <newz2000> needs to be about twice as fast
[18:55] <knome> thorwil, could the text be "not image" == just normal text in html?
[18:55] <thorwil> newz2000: i think this slideshow shouldn't be as fast as the last one
[18:55] <knome> thorwil, newz2000: i think that can be adjusted relatively easily
[18:56] <newz2000> maybe. But it does need to be much faster
[18:56] <knome> the empty spaces between images could be smaller
[18:56] <thorwil> knome: i think html text is not reliable and exact enough
[18:56] <knome> thorwil, what do you mean by that?
[18:57] <newz2000> I agree about the html text, should be graphical
[18:57] <thorwil> knome: even if you set size in px, what would firefox stop from scaling the text?
[18:58] <newz2000> thorwil: do you have time to pull the text off the background and provide it as alpha transparent pngs?
[18:58] <thorwil> knome: the empty space is measured such as to ensure that the last symbol has left before the next arrives
[18:58] <newz2000> actually, since it's a flat bg colour alpha transparency isn't needed
[18:58] <thorwil> newz2000: could be dealt with by layering or slicing
[18:59] <newz2000> I don't know if slicing is even needed here...
[18:59] <newz2000> just two very wide images, one the background and pulse
[18:59] <newz2000> the other the text
[18:59] <newz2000> (mostly transparent)
[18:59] <newz2000> animation would be: fade text out -> slide -> fade text in -> pause -> repeat
[19:00] <thorwil> newz2000: you could cut down on filesize with slicing. only that the "opening-up" image would need special treatment
[19:00] <newz2000> possibly. But when I compressed your image it was only 10k w/ no tweaking at all
[19:00] <newz2000> so even if it doubles that's still not bad
[19:01] <thorwil> ok, so text on full size transparent images in a few minutes
[19:03]  * thorwil only now gets to read the "Countdown banners chosen" mail
[19:05] <thorwil> cool
[19:07] <thorwil> newz2000: attribution like the last times ;)
[19:07] <newz2000> sounds good. :-)
[19:09] <thorwil> newz2000, kwwii: i'm happy with the selection, especially as you managed to pick the variant i prefer :)
[19:09] <newz2000> But of course! It's obviously the best.
[19:34] <thorwil> https://code.launchpad.net/~t-w-/+junk/countdown_09-10  revision 14 contains slideshow/text_transparent
[19:35] <knome> thorwil, we actually solved it differently.
[19:35] <knome> just a minute and you will see
[19:37] <knome> btw, alkaa vähän oudosti toi
[19:37] <knome> mut varmaan tiesit :D
[19:37] <knome> oops.
[19:37] <knome> rime, ^
[19:38] <knome> (i said the new revision starts a bit oddly, but that he probably knows it already)
[19:43] <Turl> hi thorwil
[19:43] <thorwil> hi Turl
[19:44] <Turl> thorwil: I'll try to make an animated version of your slides
[19:44] <knome> Turl, did you read my reply to the ML?
[19:44] <Turl> knome: nope
[19:44] <knome> we are working on it already :)
[19:44] <knome> and soon finished also
[19:44] <Turl> nice :)
[19:44] <knome> now we're working to get the text fade in/out
[19:45] <Turl> that should be easy :)
[19:45] <Turl> you're writing the text with javascript right?
[19:45] <knome> not that easy as one might think
[19:45] <knome> the text has to be graphical
[19:45] <Turl> it's just .fade() or however the framework handles that
[19:45] <Turl> why graphical? that's bad :P
[19:46] <knome> tbh, it looks better than text only
[19:46] <knome> also, we are not using any frameworks so the code is slimmer
[19:46] <Turl> rendered fonts look always best IMO
[19:46] <thorwil> Turl: graphical because i'm a control freak. maybe knome, too ;)
[19:47] <Turl> thorwil: what can't you handle using css? :)
[19:47] <Turl> you can handle fonts, sizes, positions, whatever :P
[19:47] <thorwil> Turl: definitive font on all plateforms? exact width?
[19:47] <Turl> @font-face is supported even on ie, so no problem
[19:48] <knome> Turl, yes, unless somebody changes the font size from his browser
[19:48] <knome> you can't lock anything
[19:48] <Turl> that's true, but well, the image would be scaled too  - and that would look horrible too :P
[19:48] <knome> at least it wouldn't break nastily.
[19:48] <knome> it would only look bad
[19:49] <Turl> how do you know text would break nastily? did you try? :P
[19:49] <knome> no, because we won't waste time trying that as we also can achieve it with images
[19:50] <Turl> an idea for the graphical 'glow disappearance', make a solid image with diff colours and dinamically set its opacity
[19:50] <knome> yes, that's been done right now
[19:50] <Turl> thorwil: btw, where can I get the long slide without text?
[19:50] <Turl> knome: nice :)
[19:51] <Turl> beware of IE's shortcomings as it comes to transparencies though
[19:51] <thorwil> Turl: the fastest way would be for you to open the long image in gimp, pick the bg color, rect-select across the text and fill the area
[19:51] <knome> Turl, the fallback is just to show the text always, so no fadeout/in
[19:51] <knome> but this technique should work in ie also
[19:52] <Turl> thorwil: ok, and what font is it?
[19:52] <knome> Turl, i don't mean to offend you, but there's no need to duplicate the work
[19:53] <thorwil> Turl: gentium book basic, 20.086 size
[19:53] <thorwil> at least that's what inkscape claims, regarding the size :)
[19:53] <Turl> knome: I won't duplicate the work, I'll do this sometime later in the future for the sake of doing sth challenging :P
[19:53] <knome> okay
[19:54] <Turl> thanks thorwil
[19:54] <thorwil> np
[19:59] <Turl> are you using karmic?
[19:59] <thorwil> no, jaunty
[19:59] <Turl> and you knome?
[20:00] <knome> jaunty, but i'm planning on updating to karmic before release
[20:00] <knome> to avoid the slow servers ;)
[20:00] <knome> i also have karmic on my laptop + on vbox
[20:02] <Turl> knome: does your xsplash start really late?
[20:03] <Turl> mine starts after the disks have been checked and a lot of console output is on screen
[20:03] <knome> Turl, yes
[20:03] <Turl> and I have no shutdown splash :(
[20:03] <Turl> I have seen it only once
[20:03] <Turl> when shutting down from gdm
[20:12] <knome> i don't know how the gdm/xsplash is supposed to work, actually
[20:13] <knome> thorwil, you still there?
[20:14] <thorwil> yes
[20:14] <knome> okay
[20:14] <knome> http://markus.alshain.fi/markus/deve/slider/imgs/slide_tail.png
[20:14] <knome> we need a version where the lines end "outside" the image
[20:14] <Turl> what's that, btw=
[20:14] <Turl> ?*
[20:14] <knome> so it doesn't look weird when it slides to the last image
[20:14] <Turl> oh, then it should show the normal countdown image, right
[20:14] <knome> Turl, that's part of the slide
[20:15] <Turl> yeah I know
[20:15] <Turl> but I didn't get why it was there
[20:15] <knome> "there" ? :)
[20:15] <thorwil> knome: damn, odd how i didn't think of that or fading it out
[20:16] <knome> :))
[20:19]  * thorwil puts an countdown image at the end to work that out
[20:20] <Turl> knome: I thought "why does this image have this odd line at the end?"
[20:20] <knome> Turl, :)
[20:25] <knome> newz2000, thorwil: http://markus.alshain.fi/markus/deve/slider/slider02.html
[20:26] <newz2000> knome: Looking good but needs to be faster faster :-)
[20:26] <knome> rime,
[20:26] <newz2000> No one will see the end if it's longer than a TV commercial
[20:26] <knome> ^^
[20:27] <knome> newz2000, you should see some of the tv commercials here in finland then :P
[20:27] <knome> they are almost like short films ;P
[20:27] <knome> / music videos
[20:27] <thorwil> really good, but i also think it needs to be faster
[20:28] <knome> i've become blind to this exact thing, but do you think the frames are aligned correctly to the center?
[20:28] <Turl> yep, it's too slow
[20:28] <Turl> and at the start it shows 'insert daily img here' or sth like that
[20:28] <Turl> like when it's loading
[20:28] <knome> hmm
[20:28] <Turl> maybe you should hide it with css and then unhide in javascript
[20:28] <thorwil> knome: i actually tweaked the alignment and need to commit new images
[20:28] <knome> rime, ^ ? :)
[20:29] <knome> thorwil, okay
[20:29] <knome> thorwil, can you cut them like this: http://markus.alshain.fi/markus/deve/slider/imgs/slide_top.png & http://markus.alshain.fi/markus/deve/slider/imgs/slide_bottom.png
[20:29] <knome> and http://markus.alshain.fi/markus/deve/slider/imgs/slide_tail.png
[20:30] <thorwil> yes, sure
[20:30] <knome> the alignment could also be because the js, and we could fix that...
[20:34] <rime> http://markus.alshain.fi/markus/deve/slider/slider03.html  a bit faster and js-hidden/visible magic to cover up the loading time
[20:36] <thorwil> heading in the right direction :)
[20:36] <knome> still faster?
[20:36] <knome> should the frames move forward even before the text is not completely faded out?
[20:36] <thorwil> yes for the sliding, but i think not for the fades
[20:36] <knome> (just slightly)
[20:36] <knome> okay
[20:37] <thorwil> knome: yes overlap between fades and slides could help a great deal
[20:37] <knome> it's almost like not sliding at all then ;)
[20:37] <knome> rime, ^ possible?
[20:37] <knome> thorwil, the complete text image is faded in/out every time
[20:38] <knome> so it's a problem if the next text sentence would show already
[20:38] <thorwil> i already guessed so
[20:44] <rime> how about now? (just refresh, didn't want to create yet another file... )
[20:46] <thorwil> rime: i like it :)
[20:46] <knome> wow
[20:46] <knome> looks great i think
[20:46] <rime> :)
[20:47] <thorwil> knome, rime: it's awesome to have you guys turning this concept into reality! thanks
[20:47] <knome> thorwil, you should mostly thank rime, i'm only the css guy ;)
[20:48] <thorwil> heh, ok
[20:59] <thorwil> rime: rev 15 contains sliced slideshow images https://code.launchpad.net/~t-w-/+junk/countdown_09-10
[20:59] <rime> ok
[20:59]  * thorwil wished LP was as snappy as gitorious
[21:02] <thorwil> rime: the black 1px border should be inwards to have a total size of 180 x 150. it's 182 x 152 now ...
[21:02] <rime> ahh, ok
[21:03] <knome> thorwil, btw, should that banner be clickable ;)
[21:03] <thorwil> knome: yes. straight to ubuntu.com, right newz2000?
[21:16] <rime> ok, I updated the images, now it looks pretty nice
[21:25] <newz2000> thorwil, knome: yes, straight to ubuntu.com but the design team may create a brochure site that we'll point to later towards release
[21:25] <newz2000> but rime's code is pretty clean so I can make that change when we get there
[21:32] <thorwil> newz2000: revision 19 of my branch contains an export of the countdown images. already pngcrushed. though i have no time to double-check them now
[21:32] <newz2000> ok, thanks, I'll check it out
[21:32] <thorwil> rime, knome, newz2000: thanks!
[21:32] <newz2000> no pun intended
[21:32] <thorwil> good night!


[02:25] <danjg> hello, whenever my laptop gets hot, it is automatically forced tp shut down, is there any way to disable this feature?
[02:26] <Hassen> danjg, disassemble it and clean it up
[02:26] <danjg> I don't understand...
[02:27] <Hassen> danjg, especially the CPU spot,where you find the Fans,etc
[02:27] <danjg> clean it up?
[02:27] <cfhowlett> danjg, screwdriver, open, clean vents
[02:27] <Hassen> danjg, clean your laptop,open it's lower cover and clean it
[02:27] <Hassen> dooooh...I need better english skills
[02:27] <danjg> the fan is broken
[02:27] <Hassen> danjg, LMFAO
[02:28] <danjg> so I don't think cleaning it would have much effect
[02:28] <Hassen> danjg, what makes you sure about that?
[02:28] <danjg> because it stopped suddenly with a puff of smoke and hasn't ran since
[02:28] <cfhowlett> danjg, so DON'T turn it on!
[02:28] <danjg> don't turn my laptop on?
[02:29] <Hassen> danjg, when using your laptop,put it on a flat sold surface so it gets cooled with the air around the lower laptop's body
[02:29] <Hassen> don't use it on e.g pillow
[02:29] <cfhowlett> danjg, seriously, what are you thinking.  It has a fan cuz high temps are bad.  BAD for electronics
[02:29] <danjg> ik, but I can't help it
[02:29] <Hassen> danjg, go to the computer-repair sho and replace the fan
[02:29] <danjg> I would just like to use my computer for more then 10 mins at a time
[02:29] <Hassen> fans are essential for PCs
[02:30] <Hassen> ortherwise you will smell burned stuff
[02:30] <cfhowlett> danjg, buy a replacement fan or start saving now to replace the whole thing.  Fan is cheaper by the way.  Do you also keep driving your car when the "check oil" light comes on?
[02:30] <danjg> I don't have a car
[02:30] <danjg> so, back to the question, there's no way to do that?
[02:30] <Hassen> nah.. danjg seems to be a cute little kid :)
[02:31] <Hassen> why driving cars
[02:31] <Hassen> danjg, aren't the lines we were writing enough???
[02:31] <cfhowlett> danjg, puff of smoke is a sign from god that you're doing it wrong ...
[02:31] <Hassen> cfhowlett, nie one
[02:31] <Hassen> *nice one
[02:32] <danjg> yes, I understand that, but I really don't want to repair a $20 laptop
[02:32] <danjg> and I would like to get all I can out of it
[02:32] <cfhowlett> danjg, it's smoking and you want more?  good luck with that.
[02:33] <danjg> I just came to see if I could disable it, but if you don't want to help me... :(
[02:33] <cfhowlett> danjg, trying to laugh WITH you here.  Since you're treating the lappy as a disposable/replaceable unit, do what you want and plan for the very sudden death which, based on your user habits, is sure to come soon.
[02:35] <Hassen> wow..I would think SERIOUSELY about it once i see a 'smoke' in the whole movie
[02:36] <danjg> it isn't smoking
[02:36] <Hassen> then what?drugging?
[02:36] <Hassen> or burning?
[02:36] <danjg> it works fine, just the fan doesn't
[02:36] <Hassen> danjg, duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude
[02:36] <cfhowlett> lolol
[02:37]  * Hassen throws his keyboard on danjg ...but the keyboard is broken while danjg 's head seems health
[02:37] <Hassen> *healthy
[02:37]  * cfhowlett thinks this THIS! is why I check into IRC instead of watching television
[02:37] <Hassen> VIVA IRC :DDDDDDDD
[02:38] <danjg> thanks for the laptop advice, but I just would really like to know how to disable the auto-shutdown
[02:38] <Hassen> I think that i'll make videos about my adventures in IRC
[02:38] <Hassen> it will be a good idea for youtube world!
[02:39] <cfhowlett> danjg, auto shutdown is there to prevent immediate/serious damage to your unit ... and it would be irresponsible and potentially legally liable of us to help you disable a SAFETY FEATURE!
[02:39] <Hassen> danjg, watch   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS3ZxOtTD5A
[02:39] <Hassen> that's how to do it
[02:42] <danjg> I didn't see any mention of turning off the feature in the video...
[02:42] <danjg> but thanks anyway :/
[02:54] <kreuger> hey all
[02:54] <cfhowlett> kreuger, greetings
[02:54] <kreuger> Im having some trouble logging into my desktop which is running ubuntu 12.10 (I believe)
[02:55] <cfhowlett> !details
[02:55] <kreuger> I just get the spinning icon that shows it's loading. I've tried ctrl+alt+f1/2/3/4 to try and get a terminal but cant. It happened before and I was able to get the terminal. It seems to be a driver issue?
[02:55] <kreuger> Also, I think I've got LightDM on it
[02:59] <kreuger> I remember trying to use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but nothing would happen when I ran it, even as root. This computer has been down for so long because I keep putting it off, but I really need it back.
[03:04] <kreuger> any ideas?
[03:07] <cfhowlett> kreuger, suggest you bring the query to #ubuntu ... more eyes in the channel
[03:08] <kreuger> ok thanks
[04:32] <cygnus> o/
[04:32] <Guest89688> anyone alive?
[04:33] <Guest89688> im guessing 64 bit intel isnt supported? :/
[07:45] <Geoff1000> Morning chaps, is there a good 'expose' like program?
[07:45] <Geoff1000> I used to use scale on compiz which worked quite well but I don't use compositing any longer
[07:45] <Geoff1000> as speed is the name of the game
[07:50] <koegs> Geoff1000: skippy-xd
[07:51] <koegs> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/07/skippy-xd-expose-like-window-picker-for.html
[07:51] <Geoff1000> it's slow for me and I can't work out how to expose all the windows for a single app
[07:52] <Geoff1000> in the Compiz app, I could do this - I tend to have loads of terminal windows open
[07:52] <Geoff1000> and recognise which is which by the content, something I could do with a thumbnail
[08:36] <xubuntu255> hello
[08:37] <xubuntu255> my software center opens and then closes before it finishes loading
[08:37] <xubuntu255> i get this message
[08:37] <xubuntu255> E:Malformed line 41 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[08:37] <xubuntu255> can anyone help me?
[08:38] <koegs> xubuntu255: would you nopaste the file /etc/apt/sources.list?
[08:38] <koegs> !paste | xubuntu255
[08:39] <elfy> pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:39] <elfy> from a terminal
[08:39] <elfy> sorry koegs - missed your post ...
[11:57] <jarnos> thunar makes me mad
[11:59] <jarnos> I don't know, if I should cry or laugh
[12:00] <jarnos> If you disable menubar in menu, how do you enable it thereafter?
[12:01] <jarnos> There are much more issues with it, but I like its custom actions.
[12:02] <Sysi> do you get view-submenu if you press Alt V?
[12:03] <koegs> ctrl + m should work
[12:03] <jarnos> koegs, thanks
[12:06] <jarnos> Otherwise, I find pcmanfm more robust, intuitive and less buggy than thunar.
[12:06] <koegs> i like thunar most for no obvious reason
[12:08] <jarnos> As long as I can remember, thunar has had problems in auto-mounting USB drives.
[12:09] <jarnos> Several years! So basic function. Never have had that issue with pcmanfm.
[12:09] <koegs> never hat mounting problems with thunar
[12:10] <Sysi> I've never had issues with mounting, unmounting has been blocked by thumbnail daemon couple times
[12:12] <jarnos> Could it be that I have both pcmanfm and thunar installed? Does their automounting systems somehow interfere each other?
[12:17] <jarnos> Thunar's auto-mount works if and only if I have enabled it in pcmanfm's preferences!
[12:18] <jarnos> koegs, there should be GUI way to enable menu.
[13:21] <jarnos> I added some new bug reports about thunar: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_re
[13:21] <jarnos> porter=jarnos&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.upstream_target=&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used
[13:21] <jarnos> =&field.has_no_blueprints=on
[13:21] <jarnos> sorry, too long url
[13:22] <jarnos> http://preview.tinyurl.com/pehb2fx
[18:28] <Dan_D> Ok, not to be stupid, but i appear to have replaced the battery icon at the top right with a bluetooth icon. Owing to a lack of having bluetooth, and a need to see my battery life, how do I replace it?
[18:28] <Dan_D> *I
[18:30] <well_laid_lawn> Dan_D:  did you change icon sets ?
[18:30] <Dan_D> No
[18:31] <Dan_D> Not as far as I know
[18:33] <Dan_D> I just noticed the two were switched
[18:38] <Dan_D> I still cannot even find a way to configure at plugin at all...
[18:42] <fartface> I'm trying to dual boot xubuntu and windows 7.  The installer goes through fine, but then it just boots straight into Windows, no grub menu.  When I try to run the boot-repair, I've got a paste from it, but it didn't seem to have any effect, I still can't see grub.
[18:43] <fartface> Even when I manually try to install grub, nothing shows up, it just carries on and boots straight to Windows.
[18:43] <fartface> Anyone have any ideas?
[19:14] <ObrienDave> reboot, then press F8, see if you get a dual boot menu
[19:15] <ObrienDave> F8 after post
[19:16] <ObrienDave> lol, that's what I get for snoozing ;P
[21:46] <zbrkcbr> hi guys I need help how can I write an iso file to usb with terminaal
[21:58] <LordNed> Hey all, I'm trying to install Xubuntu Desktop x64 v 12.10 onto a USB drive, and when I attempt to boot after install I get the "Gave up waiting for root device." - I've tried waiting and then typing exit but that doesn't work
[22:01] <LordNed> This is the output from boot-repair http://paste.ubuntu.com/6585714/ which didn't resolve my issue when I took the reccomended action.
[22:42] <daiatlus79> Hello all!!
[22:43] <daiatlus79> How is everyone?