[00:00] <Lirth> Where can I get a transcript of these conversations so I don't forget how to do things?
[00:00] <ActionPa1snip> share: ok and the output of: lsb_release -a; uname -a; lsmod      Thanks
[00:00] <share> pm = power management?
[00:00] <ActionPa1snip> !logs | Lirth
[00:01] <ActionPa1snip> share: I'd imagine so
[00:01] <Lirth> ActionPa1snip: thanks
[00:01] <gadak1> Anyone has Experience for submittion linux kernel patchs?
[00:02] <ActionPa1snip> gadak1: report a bug and then post your patch as a fix
[00:02] <ActionPa1snip> gadak1: and/or you could ask in #kernel
[00:02] <yumbo> ActionPa1snip, happen to be familiar with gnome mplayer?
[00:03] <ActionPa1snip> yumbo: I use it, wassup?
[00:03] <yumbo> ActionPa1snip, wondered if the "resize" area could be removed when in fullscreen (embedded video)
[00:03] <ActionPa1snip> yumbo: not sure really
[00:04] <yumbo> that thing in the bottom right: http://i.imgur.com/UrWkZ.png
[00:04] <Lirth> What is this channel called for logs?
[00:04] <yumbo> Lirth, you mean #ubuntu ?
[00:05] <Lirth> yumbo: that file isn't there. The closest is #ubuntu+1
[00:05] <yumbo> Lirth, it is there
[00:05] <gadak1> Action have you submitted any patches ever>? i need some basic help and #kernel community is not so responsive as ubuntu so im here
[00:05] <ActionPa1snip> yumbo: let me see
[00:06] <yumbo> Lirth, sort the filelist on size (click "Size")
[00:06] <ActionPa1snip> yumbo: could use a dark gnome-mplayer theme
[00:06] <hiltonmagk> Can anyone help me with a x11vnc question?
[00:06] <ActionPa1snip> yumbo: or could try the mplayer daily ppa build, see if it sorts it
[00:06] <Lirth> yumbo: Looks like I can't find things, sorry.
[00:07] <ActionPa1snip> gadak1: never had to. My hardware always works 100% with Linux. i buy it to be so
[00:07] <yumbo> ActionPa1snip, I guess it's gnome mplayer's gui and not the mplayer rendering thats faulty in this case
[00:07] <yumbo> I'll ask the gnome team later
[00:08] <hiddensoul> gadak1, try lkml.org
[00:08] <ActionPa1snip> yumbo: the ppa may help, if not you can use a dark theme and it should go
[00:09] <OKTOKT> I'm having some issues getting eth0 to link up to the network. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11630323#post11630323 anything else I could try to troubleshoot?
[00:09] <arthurdent> how does windows handle WPA enterprice certificate validation that ubuntu can't do...
[00:09] <gnate> Anyone have any ideas on how to resolve a display bug since the last Ubuntu kernel update uname -a: HP-EliteBook-8440p 3.0.0-15-generic #25-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jan 2 17:44:42 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:10] <yumbo> gnate, what's the bug?
[00:11] <gnate> @yumbo My laptop display backlight is on but there is no desktop
[00:11] <share> ActionPa1snip: http://pastebin.com/GyGh9KGH
[00:11] <yumbo> gnate, what do you see then?
[00:11] <ActionPa1snip> OKTOKT: I suggest you run:  sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a; uname -a     and add that to the entry
[00:12] <ActionPa1snip> share: thanks
[00:13] <ActionPa1snip> share: try: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ricotz/unstable;  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    reboot to test
[00:13] <share> -.-
[00:13] <ActionPa1snip> share: Maverick is EOL in April so I'd think about upgrading soon
[00:13] <share> didnt happen before
[00:13] <share> until I Messed up with PPA
[00:14] <OKTOKT> ActionPa1snip: Thanks!
[00:14] <yumbo> gnate, if the screen is blank, do this: press Control+Alt+F1, log in and then type: "sudo lightdm start"
[00:14] <share> ActionPa1snip: why the hell I would add ricotz ppa
[00:16] <share> hate pulseaudio
[00:17] <ActionPa1snip> share: it has a later build of Alsa which can help
[00:17] <ActionPa1snip> share: pulse is in a default install
[00:18] <ActionPa1snip> share: plus the packages you have installed will only be upgraded, so if you don't have pulse installed it won't be upgraded will it, think about it
[00:19] <ActionPa1snip> OKTOKT: also try:  sudo dhclient3 eth0
[00:19] <ActionPa1snip> OKTOKT: make sure you have the lights flashing on the interface itself on both sides of the cable too
[00:19] <alazyworkaholic> If all I have is busybox & I want to start a simple script, like swapon -a, what would I have to do?
[00:19] <OKTOKT> ActionPa1snip: No lights on either end.
[00:19] <alazyworkaholic> what would the script look like?
[00:20] <ActionPa1snip> OKTOKT: strange, should be
[00:21] <ActionPa1snip> alazyworkaholic: i'd add it above the exit 0 line in /etc/rc.local  and it will run
[00:22] <hiltonmagk> how do you vnc into a ubuntu server without a monitor?
[00:22] <OKTOKT> ActionPa1snip: I would have to agree with you on that. I'd like to be able to narrow this down to a Hardware/Software issue. I'm hoping to exaust the software side first.
[00:22] <gnate> Has anyone else experienced an issue with their laptop monitor no longer working since the last Ubuntu kernel update (HP-EliteBook-8440p 3.0.0-15-generic #25-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jan 2 17:44:42 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux)
[00:23] <Lirth> gnate: Do you have multiple monitors set up for that computer?
[00:23] <gnate> I do at the moment
[00:23] <Lirth> gnate: Have you tried the displays settings?
[00:24] <gnate> I have tried booting it without the monitor (works with nomodeset) but I cannot even get it back by turning it off and then back on
[00:24] <joeWoyshner> #join moodle.dyc.edu -p 9111
[00:25] <Lirth> gnate: so you have or have not used the Displays setting? I'm confused.
[00:25] <gnate> I've tried turning the monitor off with xrandr (the backlight turns off) then back on with xrandr (backlight turns back on but does not display the desktop)
[00:26] <gnate> I have tried with the display settings and with xrandr
[00:26] <Lirth> gnate: On my hp laptop there is a button to adjust displays on f4. Do you have the same?
[00:26] <troublebrewing> I have a large black bar on the left of my screen when using lxde and xfce under ubuntu 11.10
[00:26] <OerHeks> gnate did you try the FN key to toggle monitor = extern = monitor + extern ?
[00:27] <gnate> I'll give it a shot
[00:27] <androidbruce> i can't see my machine from my Windows box. and I have samba installed and running
[00:27] <androidbruce> i was able to see it once
[00:27] <androidbruce> but now nothing
[00:27] <ActionPa1snip> OKTOKT: do you know the lan cable is good?
[00:27] <hiltonmagk>  need some help with x11vnc I can't get connected after a reboot with no monitor, but before it worked
[00:28] <ActionPa1snip> androidbruce: if you run: smbtree  on the samba server, do you see the shares? Is the samba service started?
[00:28] <alazyworkaholic> If anyone has experience with Tomato router firmware, please PM me.
[00:28] <Emery> So can anyone tell me how to use root on ubuntu ?
[00:28] <gnate> No such luck
[00:28] <OKTOKT> ActionPa1snip: Step1: haha... I pulled it from the working connection between the windows file server and the router.
[00:28] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, ahhh "server role" error
[00:28] <Emery> So can anyone tell me how to use root on ubuntu ?
[00:29] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, hmm weird config problem
[00:30] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, ok got it
[00:30] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, now I still can't \\ubuntuhostname
[00:30] <gnate> F4 did not work @Lirth @OerHeks
[00:30] <magn3ts> ffmpeg is only encoding at 7 or 8 fps
[00:30] <magn3ts> that can't be the fastest it can go... right?
[00:31] <androidbruce> smbtree is WORKGROUP
[00:31] <androidbruce> \\PC
[00:31] <acerimmer> !root|Emery
[00:32] <ActionPa1snip> androidbruce: so the shares show with smbtree?
[00:32] <ActionPa1snip> androidbruce: smbtree is a command
[00:33] <gnate> \NOTICE Lirth the F4 did not work
[00:33] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, yeah i don't see the "shares"
[00:33] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, smbtree shows "WorkGroup \\PC"
[00:33] <ActionPa1snip> androidbruce: then your config is whack
[00:33] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, do you have a working default config?
[00:33] <ActionPa1snip> androidbruce: what is the output of:  sudo service smbd status
[00:34] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, ot
[00:34] <ActionPa1snip> androidbruce: I have mine which I editted smb.conf to define my shares, if that's what you want?
[00:34] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, it's running
[00:34] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, sure
[00:34] <androidbruce> that would be nice, i need a frame of ref
[00:34] <ActionPa1snip> androidbruce: http://paste.ubuntu.com/812506/
[00:35] <ActionPa1snip> androidbruce: I have 2 samba users defined using smbpasswd too, as you can see
[00:35] <androidbruce> ok
[00:35] <androidbruce> gotcha
[00:35] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, i think i can try this
[00:35] <phun5tar> I'm still having issues with my internal GRUB each time I boot from my USB Linux
[00:35] <phun5tar> and I lose my filesystem of my internal linux partition
[00:36] <phun5tar> I ran the boot_info_script and have the results.txt
[00:36] <urlin2u> phun5tar, the usb is a full install?
[00:36] <phun5tar> yes
[00:36] <phun5tar> 11.10
[00:37] <phun5tar> and I have 10.04 and Windows internally
[00:37] <urlin2u> phun5tar, pastebin the bootscript
[00:38] <androidbruce> still no dice iun browsing my share ActionPa1snip
[00:38] <phun5tar> http://pastebin.com/XDLTsrZ4
[00:38] <ActionPa1snip> androidbruce: you will need to restart the service after you change the file. All I added was the last 3 sections to define my shares
[00:39] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, yeah i restarted the service
[00:39] <androidbruce> i can't \\ubuntumachine
[00:39] <phun5tar> I am currently running via USB
[00:39] <evernoob> yumbo Lirth fyi, 11.10-desktop-amd64 seems to have no support for encrypted root
[00:39] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, i can ping it, and I'm using synergy
[00:39] <Fujk> my firefox in ubuntu keeps locking up constantly (going dark). why is it doing this?
[00:39] <androidbruce> so networking is fine
[00:40] <ActionPa1snip> Fujk: if you run it as a new user, is it the same
[00:40] <ActionPa1snip> evernoob: I believe its part of the disk setup step
[00:41] <phun5tar> here is my fdisk -l http://pastebin.com/7GBiiXDL
[00:42] <phun5tar> I'm simply amazed that I not only lose the option of booting 10.04, but sda5 (10.04) simply vanishes just by booting to 11.10
[00:42] <phun5tar> the only way I get it back is by reinstalling, which includes formating
[00:43] <ActionPa1snip> phun5tar: did you try running:  sudo update-grub
[00:43] <urlin2u> phun5tar, couple of problems first you have grub in the windows boot partition  /bootmgr /Boot/BCD /boot/grub/core.img  second I see no boot files in the backtrack in sda5 we don't support backtrack here.
[00:43] <evernoob> ActionPa1snip - I am at that stage, and it doesn't recognise existing LUKSd LVM partition, or offer option of encryption
[00:43] <macroevolve> Hi guys I currently have two servers sitting here, and don't have any idea how to get them setup.  My previous network admin had installed an OS on there (I think it was either Ubuntu or Centos - this is how unfamiliar I am with it).  These two servers will be used to host a website as well as to host VOIP services for the website (Asterisk-based).  Redmine (a project management tool would also
[00:43] <macroevolve> be needed).  I would also need this person to help me configure security on the servers, and since the servers are run from home, would need advice on how to setup my routers properly to set access rights (I will have both personal PCs and the servers using the same Comcast)
[00:44] <ActionPa1snip> evernoob: i see, go for alternate then is all I can say.
[00:44] <macroevolve> I am placing a job ad and have no idea what keywords I should be looking for
[00:44] <macroevolve> would this be a "network admin" - i could use some advice on what keywords I should place in the skills requirements section
[00:44] <jrib> macroevolve: this channel is for ubuntu support only please
[00:44] <macroevolve> oh ok
[00:44] <jrib> !ot | macroevolve
[00:45] <macroevolve> sorry about that
[00:45] <jalad> hi
[00:45] <jalad> darmok and jalad at tanagra
[00:45] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, smbtree doesn't show my shares
[00:46] <phun5tar> sudo update-grub does nothing different
[00:46] <phun5tar> just because backtrack is what I'm trying to boot to, what does that have to do with support?
[00:46] <phun5tar> I'm not asking a Backtrack question, I'm asking a GRUB question
[00:46] <phun5tar> which is supported, right?
[00:46] <jalad> darmok and jalad at tanagra!
[00:47] <Guest36770> do ya'll know where I can go to learn more about IRC???
[00:47] <ActionPa1snip> Guest36770: what do you want to know, the protocol isn't hugely comlplex
[00:47] <urlin2u> phun5tar, grub is not breaking the backtrack that makes no sense
[00:47] <phun5tar> why do you think I'm here?
[00:48] <jalad> because you have no friends
[00:48] <ActionPa1snip> zing
[00:48] <phun5tar> ^^
[00:48] <spacebug-> Why is it that when I have nautilus handle my desktop (as it is default) and I start 'Home' the nautilus windows dows not get focus?
[00:48] <urlin2u> phun5tar, grub boots the ubuntu that is as far as we can go to be honest get the grub out of the sda1 is the second area we can help in.
[00:48] <Guest36770> lol . . . around here I guess not
[00:48] <cipher___> how'd you know jalad?
[00:48] <Guest36770> I'm new at this
[00:49] <phun5tar> I've tried installing GRUB to /dev/sda5
[00:49] <ActionPa1snip> Guest36770: you are using it well dude, you can join additional channels by running:  /join #channame
[00:49] <phun5tar> but sda5 still gets deleted /only/ when I boot 11.10
[00:49] <cipher__> Is anyone aware what compositor manages the "minimize" animation of windows? I am using openbox and it's breaking xcompmgr's transparency.
[00:49] <phun5tar> if I knew why it gets deleted, I'd consider it a victory
[00:49] <Guest36770> thank mAN~!
[00:50] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: all the anims are managed the same. You can disable openboxes anims in config and it won't animate, it will just vanish :)
[00:50] <Guest99140> hi
[00:51] <phun5tar> maybe I'm asking the wrong question? What if I were to ask "why does Oneiric delete my 10.04?"
[00:51] <urlin2u> phun5tar, me to  would help with that if  had a quick instruction, but the grub in the sda1 windows partition is a problem for sure clean that out and se if you can get the backtrack setup in their channel if you can.
[00:51] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, Thanks. Any idea where the config is?
[00:51] <Xapumaq> hello, why $PATH is lacking sbin places?¡?
[00:51] <phun5tar> I already tried installing it elsewhere
[00:52] <Xapumaq> aand why the monitor goes out of range on boot???
[00:52] <phun5tar> in fact, I'm surprised it's in sda1 since I told it to install to sda5
[00:52] <urlin2u> phun5tar, you would be lying the script is obvious
[00:52] <Xapumaq> hello?
[00:52] <phun5tar> oh, I'm sorry
[00:52] <phun5tar> did you type on this thing the past hour?
[00:52] <phun5tar> I know what I told grub to do
[00:52] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, what should smbtree show me
[00:52] <phun5tar> my question is, why is it doing something I didn't tell it to
[00:53] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, thanks :p
[00:53] <Guest36770> Take it easy guy's!
[00:53] <Xapumaq> hey, why window borders do not change when i change theme?
[00:53] <urlin2u> phun5tar, maybe it's possessed. :D
[00:53] <phun5tar> lol
[00:53] <Xapumaq> ummm
[00:53] <phun5tar> best conclusion I've seen
[00:53] <Xapumaq> why nobody knows what i ask :(
[00:54] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: seems to be in ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml:    <animateIconify>yes</animateIconify>
[00:54] <phun5tar> this isn't the first time I've done this configuration, either
[00:54] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: here
[00:54] <acerimmer> !patience|Xapumaq
[00:54] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, oh wow thanks.
[00:54] <xangua> Xapumaq: because you don't change the window border theme¿¿
[00:54] <phun5tar> I've got a few extHDD's for various applications.  Just pop in the appropriate OS, and poweron
[00:54] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, much appreciated
[00:54] <phun5tar> only 11.10 is giving me problems
[00:54] <ActionPa1snip> androidbruce: http://paste.ubuntu.com/812530/
[00:54] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, Actually the file does not exist
[00:55] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: try:  find ~/.config | grep xml
[00:55] <cipher__> I found it *
[00:55] <androidbruce> ActionPa1snip, yeah all i see is my PC
[00:55] <Xapumaq> no, it does not change, even if i use advaced settings app
[00:55] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: I use lubuntu so that is the file
[00:55] <BoyOfWuHan> hi all
[00:56] <acerimmer> BoyOfWuHan: nihao
[00:56] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, one other question. Do you have any idea where the startup script could be. It's nowhere to be found according to pages i have read.
[00:56] <urlin2u> phun5tar, I would put the backtrack on a thumb that is basically how its used I believe, and the ubuntu on the hd.
[00:57] <urlin2u> internal HD
[00:57] <Xapumaq> ummm
[00:57] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: startup script in what way?
[00:57] <Xapumaq> so what i can do!?
[00:57] <BoyOfWuHan> hi
[00:57] <Xapumaq> I HATE THIS, CMON, HELP MEEEEEEEE
[00:57] <acerimmer> !patience|Xapumaq
[00:57] <Xapumaq> hi
[00:58] <BoyOfWuHan> acerimmer xiexie
[00:58] <ActionPa1snip> Xapumaq: try pressing ALT+F2 and run:   unity --replace    I assume you use unity. Please don't do that. it's really pathetic
[00:58] <phun5tar> I get what you're saying, but I prefer it internal
[00:58] <Xapumaq> acerimmer: f***k off wit that
[00:58] <LoRez> does ubuntu do pdiffs?
[00:58] <phun5tar> for no other reason, I want to learn how to solve this problem
[00:58] <acerimmer> BoyOfWuHan: sorry, that's all the chinese I can speak just now.  What do you need help with.
[00:58] <phun5tar> regardless of how I'll organize my OS's after
[00:58] <Xapumaq> ActionPa1snip: ok, no thanks, im using gnome not unity
[00:59] <ActionPa1snip> Xapumaq: which shell / desktop / WM are you using?
[00:59] <Xapumaq> ok fine, but im not running unity ActionPa1snip
[00:59] <urlin2u> phun5tar, I think you just made a mistake somewhere to be honest the OS only does what you tell it, it does not think .
[00:59] <ActionPa1snip> LoRez: seems to be in python-debian accrding to: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/python-debian
[00:59] <Xapumaq> right now im using gnome 3 default
[00:59] <BoyOfWuHan> acerimmer nothing I just come here to say hello
[00:59] <Xapumaq> GNOME choice on DM
[00:59] <ActionPa1snip> Xapumaq: and what is the output of: lsb_release -sc    please
[01:00] <Xapumaq> awww ok hold on
[01:00] <BoyOfWuHan> acerimmer  do you know Wuhan city?
[01:00] <phun5tar> so, how would you explain the scenario?
[01:00] <LoRez> ActionPa1snip: no, I mean with apt packages files downloads
[01:00] <acerimmer> BoyOfWuHan: nah, i'm in the usa.  moving to beijing next month, though.
[01:01] <urlin2u> phun5tar, are you talking to me
[01:01] <BoyOfWuHan> acerimmer welcome to china....
[01:01] <phun5tar> lol, sorry
[01:01] <phun5tar> urlin2u I'm just getting frustrated at a fairly simple request
[01:01] <BoyOfWuHan>  acerimmer but I'm in Wuhan about  600KM from Beijing
[01:01] <phun5tar> I realize I could have made a mistake...so what was it?
[01:01] <Tengas> Hello. Can someone tell me why is the GT 540 can not sync with PC
[01:02] <RyuGuns> What is the ubuntu-equivalent of the "ping" command in MS-windows?
[01:02] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, I thought there was a startup.sh in .config, to use applications like feh, wicd, and starting deamons
[01:02] <cipher__> before the wm begings
[01:02] <urlin2u> phun5tar, this is not a simple request, and I have pointed out hat I see is wrong and the channel policies. We don't know what you have done.
[01:02] <cipher__> begins*
[01:02] <urlin2u> what*
[01:03] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: you can put things in /etc/rc.local   and they run before the login screen / prompt shows..
[01:03] <cipher__> thanks
[01:03] <ActionPa1snip> Tengas: did you add the xorg edgers update ppa?
[01:03] <phun5tar> so, a legit Windows/Ubuntu 10.04 install internally
[01:03] <phun5tar> a legit Ubuntu 11.10 extHDD install
[01:03] <ratcheer> RyuGuns: It is "ping".
[01:03] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: don't get too hung up on file extensions, this isn't windows ;)
[01:03] <urlin2u> phun5tar, your liening GO AWAY
[01:03] <phun5tar> when one runs, the other is effected
[01:03] <phun5tar> haha
[01:03] <ActionPa1snip> RyuGuns: ping is ping, its a defacto standard
[01:04]  * phun5tar is trying to find the source of his gall
[01:04] <ActionPa1snip> Xapumaq: its a simple command, press CTRL+ALT+T to launch a terminal..
[01:04] <acerimmer> BoyOfWuHan: /joing #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:04] <RyuGuns> I tried it, keeps giving me "unknown host" so I assumed it was different.
[01:05] <ewokbot> yeah linux oftentimes gives file names extension just because the name sounds like what its for. such grub.list or grub.cfg
[01:05] <Spitfiiire> Hey guys. I have an issie with Skype closing as soon as i open it. Is there a way i can find out whats causing it and if possible rectify it?
[01:05] <ratcheer> RyuGuns: That just means DNS is not resolving the address.
[01:05] <ewokbot> younameit.grub
[01:06] <ActionPa1snip> Spitfiiire: can you pastebin the output of:  uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | grep -i skype     Thanks
[01:07] <notbaboo> When I install ubuntu 11.10 and choose for /boot an existing boot partition. Ubuntu warns that directories containing system files on any mointpoint will be deleted. So does this mean the whole of /boot will be emptied?
[01:07] <ActionPa1snip> notbaboo: did you mark the partition for formatting ?
[01:08] <notbaboo> no
[01:10] <Spitfiiire> ActionPa1snip, http://pastebin.com/qRMpwCkS
[01:10] <Spitfiiire> Sorry about that hadnt used pastebin before so had to register.
[01:12] <ActionPa1snip> Spitfiiire: you don't have to register, you can just paste :)
[01:12] <Spitfiiire> Ah
[01:12] <ActionPa1snip> Spitfiiire: try the deb from the skype website, you want the 32bit deb
[01:12] <notbaboo> ActionPa1snip, this is the dialog itself: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/screenshotat20120122011.png/
[01:18] <metasansana> attack of the clones
[01:19] <ActionPa1snip> notbaboo: can you move the dialogue, so we can see the partitions
[01:19] <notbaboo> ActionPa1snip, ok, sec.
[01:22] <ActionPa1snip> notbaboo: sweet
[01:23] <notbaboo> 1 of 3: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/266/screenshotat20120122012.png/
[01:23] <notbaboo> ActionPa1snip, 2 of 3 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/443/screenshotat20120122012.png/
[01:23] <notbaboo> ActionPa1snip,  3: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/screenshotat20120122012.png/
[01:24] <ActionPa1snip> notbaboo: none are marked for formatting... how are you going to install the OS if none are formatted?
[01:25] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, is there any reason this rc.local shouldn't work: http://codepad.org/Byi8EKVJ?
[01:26] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: those comamands wont work as the X server is not running
[01:26] <cipher__> ah okay
[01:26] <notbaboo> ActionPa1snip, you're right. but the dialog still appears when i choose to format the / mountpoint and try again.
[01:27] <cipher__> I take it i cannot add startx
[01:27] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: if you are using openbox then make a script then have a .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart   to call it
[01:28] <Tyler_> hi all, think anybody can help me with default umask on sftp connections on ubuntu server or is there a better channel for that/
[01:28] <cipher__> ok
[01:29] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: there is a way to add stuff gracefully but I find that way easier personally
[01:29] <cipher__> alright
[01:30] <WoC> Somehow, i cant find the screensaver preferences in ubunty unity, 11.10; could i be missing some package or so ? Suggestions?
[01:30] <urlin2u> WoC, you ave to install it
[01:30] <urlin2u> have*
[01:30] <WoC> Yes, ofc
[01:30] <WoC> But what package ?
[01:30] <WoC> Hints ?
[01:31] <Tyler_> I have chrooted users using internal-sftp but no matter what I do I cannot get the umask on newly uploaded ifles to work
[01:31] <urlin2u> WoC, http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/10/enable-screensavers-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[01:31] <WoC> ty :)
[01:32] <urlin2u> WoC, np,  had to look up the app. ;)
[01:32] <WoC> heh :)
[01:36] <StevenX> If I download a ubuntu iso, can I run it with a cd emulator?
[01:36] <StevenX> like daemon tools?
[01:36] <Erealz> yea
[01:37] <StevenX> thanks Erealz
[01:38] <zarbula> Hey ubuntu, trying to follow http://www.piotrkrzyzek.com/solved-creative-x-fi-titanium-ctxfi-on-ubuntu-11-10/ to fix my 5.1 AC passthough with my x-fi card, but I can't force the old kernel module to unload.  How do I unload snd_ctxfi?
[01:39] <notbaboo> ActionPa1snip, if it helps: if you don't know. i'd be happy to give it a shot for you and then come back and tell how it went?
[01:40] <ActionPa1snip> notbaboo: the partition you set as / should be formatted, it will not touch /boot as it is it's own partition
[01:40] <WoC> zarbula, modprobe -r snd_ctxfi ?
[01:40] <notbaboo> ActionPa1snip, ok cool. thanks!
[01:41] <ActionPa1snip> !away > MJ|Away
[01:41] <czx> why nautilus asks passwort for mounting/unmounting oartitions?
[01:41] <zarbula> WoC: FATAL: Module snd_ctxfi is in use.
[01:41] <WoC> zarbula, try modprobe -f -r snd_ctxfi
[01:41] <WoC> it might crash though
[01:41] <ActionPa1snip> zarbula: run:  lsmod | grep snd_ctxfi    to see what is using it.
[01:42] <ActionPa1snip> ceative stuff so isn't worth it
[01:43] <zarbula> WoC: didn't work same error
[01:43] <cara> hi people
[01:43] <WoC> dang...
[01:43] <zarbula> ActionPa1snip: I found 4 other modules
[01:44] <WoC> were you able to see what is using it ?
[01:44] <cara> what's up?
[01:44] <zarbula> ActionPa1snip: do I need to stop each?
[01:44] <WoC> zarbula, yes
[01:45] <WoC> modprobe -r for each of the modules listed as using the one module you want to unload and then that module
[01:45] <urlin2u> cara, you have a support question?
[01:45] <cara> no I'm just going to lurk for a while
[01:45] <zarbula> WoC: I'll try that thanks.. luckly I'm it's my Media Center box, so I'll not randomlly leave chat :)
[01:45] <urlin2u> cara, col just checking.
[01:45] <urlin2u> cool
[01:45] <__machine> i installed samba on 11.04 but when i try to connect it wont accept my username/password? isnt the default config for security = user and so any linux account can authenticate with samba?
[01:46] <WoC> __machine, added users with smbpasswd ?
[01:46] <zarbula> WoC: Same error!
[01:46] <__machine> WoC: doesnt samba keep the passwords synced?
[01:47] <WoC> __machine, once the users are added, yes if configured to do so
[01:47] <cara> zarbula, what's going on with ya system?
[01:47] <WoC> zarbula, i think you have to reboot then
[01:47] <Erealz> is there a way to make an iso or my corrent installation ? aka my distro cd
[01:48] <zarbula> WoC: I hate to reboot mid installing but I'll try that.
[01:48] <WoC> zarbula, might want to check first in case someone here has some wizard trick
[01:50] <Erealz> is there a way to make an iso of my current installation ? i want my own custom distro?
[01:50] <buhman> I installed icecat a while ago, and uninstalled flashplayer (all nsapi things seem to hang whenever a page tries to use them in icecat); and then I enabled html5 in youtube. It worked fine at one point, but for some reason I can't see any drawn portion of videos at all. I see a black box as the page loads, but then it dissappears later; I can hear sound though.
[01:50] <zarbula> cara: I'm trying to get my x-fi to AC3/5.1 DTS to function on 11.10
[01:50] <OerHeks> !remaster | Erealz
[01:53] <buhman> ubottu: stop encouraging people to use non-free software
[01:53] <WoC> is there anyway to reconfig the software center to use sudo ?
[01:53] <acerimmer> WoC: so that ANY user can install/delete software??
[01:53] <spacebug-> Erealz: take a look at http://www.ubuntugeek.com/creating-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-with-remastersys.html
[01:54] <urlin2u> buhman, you new here?
[01:54] <WoC> Well any user who can sudo
[01:54] <Erealz> thankx yall
[01:54] <MJ94> !help
[01:54] <MJ94> oh
[01:54] <MJ94> !bothelp
[01:54] <Erealz> ill open the links and look into the reading tomarrow
[01:55] <acerimmer> WoC: I'm in a non-admin account now.  When I request a package thru Software Center, it requests the Sudo user password.  Problem solved.
[01:55] <WoC> i have my sudo set as nopasswd
[01:56] <WoC> still asks me for pass, i figured it used su as opposed to sudo
[01:56] <NelsonM> is there a "proper" way to upgrade my Linux kernel to 3.2 in my Oneiric install? I see lots of advice to hand-install .deb; would prefer to find an apt repository.
[01:56] <__machine> WoC: the smb.conf has a commented out [homes] section it says it makes each user's home dir available as \\server\username … but when i uncomment it, i just see an actual "homes" share?
[01:57] <WoC> that would enable \\server\username which is the home
[01:58] <WoC> __machine, ok ?
[01:58] <zarbula> WoC: rebooted and still can't insmod in the new .ko file
[01:58] <__machine> woc but it makes an actual \\server\homes share as well (or instead)?
[01:58] <kylebt> f
[01:58] <tester2> Hello.
[01:59] <goof> hello
[01:59] <buhman> urlin2u: I don't come here frequently, more accurately; but if you're implying that I didn't know ubottu was a bot, you're mistaken
[01:59] <WoC> __machine, no, the \\server\home will not show
[01:59] <zarbula> NM! rmmod worked that time
[02:00] <WoC> dang... ^w...
[02:00] <urlin2u> buhman, no....just your cognitive development. ;---)
[02:01] <__machine> WoC: homes is visible… but i changed browsable = yes to no and it is gone… but when i view my home dir… symlinks dont appear as folders, just broken files… hmmm...
[02:03] <Fujk> anyone with RTL8111/8168B network card that is WORKING in ubuntu? I keep getting dropped connections on a regular basis, havent been able to use this computer in 6 months under linux
[02:03] <NelsonM> fujk: I'm working on that exact problem right now.
[02:03] <poobiebear> Fujk: I have one!
[02:04] <NelsonM> fujk: the error I see is it takes 30-200 seconds for eth0 to come up after boot. once it's up, it's stable for me. but I only run 100Mbps
[02:04] <Fujk> NelsonM: I tried the r8168 driver, didnt help
[02:04] <poobiebear> It works, mostly!
[02:04] <NelsonM> Fujk: did you? I'm just building it now ;-P. What'd you do, poobiebear?
[02:04] <poobiebear> I'm running an AMD_64 system on Ubuntu's 3.0.0-15-generic kernel.
[02:04] <Fujk> I run 2.6
[02:04] <poobiebear> The card is in an ASUS M5a99XEVO board
[02:05] <poobiebear> I updated my BIOS to the latest one available
[02:05] <poobiebear> and now the card only sometimes drops connections. :)
[02:05] <Fujk> define sometimes?
[02:05] <poobiebear> It used to only be able to recieve packets!
[02:05] <NelsonM> poobiebear: same software, but it's an ASUS P8Z68 M Pro. Does your ethernet come up reliably after reboot? and are you gigabit or 100Mbps?
[02:05] <poobiebear> It does come up reliably
[02:05] <poobiebear> It should be 1gbps
[02:05] <poobiebear> I'll plug the thing in in a second to check
[02:06] <NelsonM> there is a lot of discussion about this problem here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11348803#post11348803
[02:06] <Fujk> mine says: Speed: 100Mb/s
[02:06] <NelsonM> also in every other linux distro format. a lot of people are having this problem, I think because of new ASUS boards. The real problem is in the linux kernel.
[02:06] <poobiebear> Fujk, Say, once every couple of days or so the damn card will start flapping the link.
[02:06] <Fujk> yeah I read threads for 6 months
[02:06] <Fujk> still no solution that WORKS
[02:06] <poobiebear> NelsonM, I really thing that the issue is with the firmware on the card
[02:06] <NelsonM> if you have a spare PCI slot, I can think of a $25 solution :-)
[02:06] <poobiebear> the Windows drivers are just fine
[02:06] <poobiebear> but
[02:06] <snowrichard> what would be the point of a gigabit lan when my internet connection is only 1Mb/s?
[02:06] <poobiebear> a BIOS update mostly fixed the issue for the NIC on this board in Linux.
[02:07] <Fujk> so I have to update the bios too..
[02:07] <NelsonM> but you still have unreliability, poobiebear?
[02:07] <Fujk> maybe that will help (I bet not)
[02:07] <poobiebear> NelsonM, yeah. It's not 100% reliable.
[02:07] <NelsonM> I've updated my BIOS to latest. I did read one suggestion which was to get new firmware from somewhere
[02:07] <zimmer> How can I get the number of discharge cycles my battery has had from ubuntu (terminal or gui)?
[02:07] <poobiebear> How do I check link speed again? I Can't remember how to see that with ip.
[02:08] <poobiebear> And dmesg isn't telling me anything useful.
[02:08] <Fujk> there we go, owned by Mr. Peer
[02:08] <Fujk> I did this: http://www.foxhop.net/realtek-dropping-packets-on-linux-ubuntu-and-fedora
[02:08] <poobiebear> one second. Gonna disconnect.
[02:09] <Fujk> I kinda want to use this computer
[02:09] <zulax> is there a way to solve the over battery consumption on my ubuntu?
[02:09] <dimas_> guys i am experiencing a problem which i dont know how work it out..i just on the computer and then bang...goes black with some codes and frozed
[02:09] <zulax> it gets super hot as well :(
[02:10] <NelsonM> is there a formal Launchpad Ubuntu bug files for this r8169 bug? I couldn't find one. Should there be?
[02:10] <poobiebear> Hallo?
[02:10] <zacktu> i thought that update manager said that it was installing a new kernel, but after a restart the kernel version is still 3.0.0-12 generic (unchanged) -- is that to be expected?
[02:10] <Fujk> why does the fixes work for everyone but me
[02:11] <poobiebear> Hnnh. Maybe I was running the hand-rolled 3.2 kernel. I have no success with that card now.
[02:11] <Fujk> so I have gigabyte mother board, its their BIOS I need to get yeah?
[02:11] <poobiebear> Link speed is 10mbps, according to NetworkManager
[02:11] <poobiebear> and I can't get a DHCP lease.
[02:11] <poobiebear> :/
[02:11] <NelsonM> the card works fine for me in 3.0.0-14-server, but only after 30-200 seconds when it comes up.
[02:11] <NelsonM> poobiebear: wait a bit, see if eth0 comes up later?
[02:11] <poobiebear> Hmka.y
[02:11] <poobiebear> K
[02:12]  * poobiebear uses Patience.
[02:12] <JR> hello
[02:12] <WoC> poobiebear, is that a intel nic ?
[02:12] <jeremiah_> i need help!!!
[02:12] <poobiebear> WoC, the "flakey" card is not. It's an onboard NiC.
[02:13] <Zuropazlefuf> hello, i need some advices, im running gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.10, why lightdm launches unity even if choose gnome??
[02:13] <JR> wheres the party at
[02:13] <poobiebear> It's a Realtek onboard NiC.
[02:13] <WoC> poobiebear, which nic is it ?
[02:13] <WoC> k
[02:13] <JR> eaaa
[02:13] <Gentoo64> 8168
[02:13] <Zuropazlefuf> and to make the window decoration change i got to restart session/wm
[02:13] <Zuropazlefuf> ummm
[02:13] <Zuropazlefuf> help me?
[02:14] <poobiebear> Whatever one that's built in to the ASUS M5A99X EVO. lspci lists it as: "Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06)"
[02:14] <jeremiah_> can someone help me?
[02:14] <WoC> just noticed some intel nics need to be restarted twice before they start working normal
[02:14] <poobiebear> WoC, I have a PCIE Intel nic that works wonderfully.
[02:14] <Gentoo64> funny how i read realtek and know its an 8168
[02:14] <NelsonM> ah, here's the Launchpad bug with this Realtek r8169 driver. It's *four years old* and now I want to cry. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/141343
[02:14] <jeremiah_> i want help
[02:14] <poobiebear> Intel Corporation 82574L Gigabit Network Connection
[02:14] <Zuropazlefuf> where i need to head to get ati raedon xpress 200 drivers
[02:14] <NelsonM> (the "Fix released" part is not true.)
[02:14] <Zuropazlefuf> ME TOO!
[02:15] <cara> jeremiah_, would help if you just ask the question..
[02:15] <Gentoo64> poobiebear, whats the problem with it? cuts out?
[02:15] <WoC> poobiebear, check if bringing the nic up and down a few times manual does anything
[02:15] <oscar76> cara: good suggestion
[02:15] <jeremiah_> good. now i know i am not talking to myself
[02:15] <Zuropazlefuf> im talking to myself :(
[02:15] <cara> jeremiah_, you may be...
[02:15] <poobiebear> Gentoo64, on Linux 3.2, once every day or so, it start flapping the link. On the 3.0.0-15-generic kernel, it doesn't seem to start.
[02:16] <urlin2u> !help > jeremiah_
[02:16] <Gentoo64> poobiebear, you dual boot with windows i take it?
[02:16] <Zuropazlefuf> why everybody acts like im not here?
[02:16] <cara> we're just a figment of your imagination... all in this small black box called the intertubes
[02:16] <WoC> Zuropazlefuf, we all are, at times, usually due to Guinness ;)
[02:16] <Zuropazlefuf> !help
[02:16] <jeremiah_> I want to install a few things to my pc (xubuntu 8.10) but nothing works.
[02:16] <poobiebear> WoC, Okay. I just came in here for policykit help, but I figured out that myself. :)
[02:16] <poobiebear> Gentoo64, Yeah, I do.
[02:16] <Zuropazlefuf> hmm?
[02:16] <WoC> heh :)
[02:16] <Zuropazlefuf> WoC: umm not understandin u -.-
[02:16] <Gentoo64> poobiebear, what you need to do, is in device manager, choose the network card and in the options, enable wake on lan shutdown
[02:16] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, 8.10 is end of life.
[02:16] <WoC> Zuropazlefuf, i was making a joke
[02:16] <Gentoo64> poobiebear, that should fix it regardless of the linux driver
[02:16] <poobiebear> Gentoo64, I read all about the "Do stuff in Windows and it magically works in Linux" thread, and that didn't help. A BIOS upgrade made the thing work almost correctly with a 3.2 kernel.
[02:16] <Zuropazlefuf> oh :)
[02:17] <poobiebear> Gentoo64, It does not. :)
[02:17] <oscar76> jeremiah: like what
[02:17] <goddard> anyone else have a problem with the new kernel update?
[02:17] <Zuropazlefuf> WoC: ideas about some tips?
[02:17] <Zuropazlefuf> hmm
[02:17] <poobiebear> Gentoo64, but that's okay. I have another nic which works reliably. :)
[02:17] <Gentoo64> poobiebear, i have that same onboard card and gave up on linux with it, the 8168 driver is available but i bought an intel card
[02:17] <NelsonM> gentoo65, poobiebear: any way to enable wake on lan from linux? I've never booted Windows on this thing.
[02:17] <Gentoo64> poobiebear, ok
[02:17] <poobiebear> Gentoo64, yeah. That's precicely what I did. :)
[02:17] <Gentoo64> :)
[02:17] <Gentoo64> much better not having to mess arounf
[02:18] <WoC> Zuropazlefuf, wrong session as default in your dm ?
[02:18] <cara> NelsonM, there's a command wol or something
[02:18] <jeremiah_> what do you mean end of life?
[02:18] <poobiebear> Gentoo64, sort of... but this stuff should just work in Linux. :)
[02:18] <Gentoo64> poobiebear, yeah
[02:18] <Gentoo64> the problems so old
[02:18] <Zuropazlefuf> like, gnome 3 desktop (not unity), why do i need to restart session when i change the windows decoration?
[02:18] <urlin2u> ! eol | jeremiah_
[02:18] <NelsonM> my Ubuntu install failed on this r8168; no DHCP
[02:18] <Zuropazlefuf> WoC: also, only on lightdm i choose gnome but it runs ubuntu session (unity)
[02:18] <Vooloo> piece of shit realtek really
[02:18] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, basically not supported.
[02:19] <Gentoo64> it is actually windows afaik that messes with the 8168
[02:19] <Gentoo64> it shuts the card off on shutdown
[02:19] <Zuropazlefuf> WoC
[02:19] <poobiebear> WoC, Bringing the Realtek nic up and down twice made it work.
[02:19] <NelsonM> gentoo64: I've heard that rumor. but I've once run windows on this hardware.
[02:19] <jeremiah_> so if i got the latest would that be better?
[02:19] <Zuropazlefuf> lol
[02:19] <Zuropazlefuf> ummm
[02:19] <WoC> poobiebear, heh nice :) used to help me 2
[02:19] <cara> ethtool?
[02:19] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, 10.04 is the long term release or the latest yes.
[02:19] <Gentoo64> NelsonM, well for some reason the 8168 driver hasnt ever been in the kernel
[02:19] <Zuropazlefuf> WoC....
[02:20] <cara> its been a long time since I played with wake on lan
[02:20] <poobiebear> WoC, anything you want me to try while I'm here?
[02:20] <WoC> Zuropazlefuf, sound like you upgraded and that is from before your dist-upgrade
[02:20] <NelsonM> cara: thanks, don't sweat it on my account
[02:20] <cara> ethtool -s eth0 wol g
[02:20] <jeremiah_> so that means...
[02:20] <cara> yes.. I think that was the command
[02:20] <Zuropazlefuf> WoC: nono, it's a fresh install
[02:21] <Zuropazlefuf> i just have ubuntu experience :D
[02:21] <WoC> ah, beats me :)
[02:21] <jeremiah_> ok I will get it when i have time.
[02:21] <Zuropazlefuf> ?
[02:21] <cara> ethtool is used to change the device settings.
[02:21] <WoC> Im kind of new to ubuntu/debian
[02:21] <cara> NelsonM :)
[02:21] <Zuropazlefuf> uhh
[02:21] <cara> I wonder if Ubuntu automated that or anything
[02:22] <Zuropazlefuf> lol
[02:22] <Zuropazlefuf> ok
[02:22] <Vooloo> so uh, how do I flash my bios (gigabyte) I downloaded the stuff. says flashspi.exe
[02:22] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, easiest way normally from usb
[02:22] <cara> Zuropazlefuf, do you not want Unity?
[02:22] <Gentoo64> in th bios itself
[02:22] <NelsonM> lol, the first thing the build script for this ethernet driver does is remove the existing ethernet driver. guess who was logged in via ssh?
[02:22] <Gentoo64> NelsonM, you idiot
[02:22] <Gentoo64> lol
[02:22] <Vooloo> Gentoo64: I move the files to USB and reboot into bios?
[02:22] <cara> NelsonM, LOL
[02:23] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, there should be an option in bios to flash via usb
[02:23] <Gentoo64> in most modern bioses anyway
[02:23] <Vooloo> ok
[02:23] <Zuropazlefuf> cara: lol, is not that, just why the heck lightdm is loading unity (ubuntu) instead of gnome when i choose gnome?
[02:23] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, extract the bios file on the usb btw
[02:23] <cara> Zuropazlefuf, because Gnome uses Unity?
[02:23] <Gentoo64> i dont think it reads zips or watever
[02:23] <urlin2u> Zuropazlefuf, how did you install gnome 3
[02:24] <Zuropazlefuf> and why do i need to restart session to see window decoration change
[02:24] <NelsonM> (fortunately this machine is in the room with me and not in some remote datacenter.)
[02:24] <Zuropazlefuf> right from package manager/soft center, gnome package
[02:24] <goof> a canadian
[02:24] <Zuropazlefuf> cara: no, unity and gnome 3 are different, unity on one side, and gnome-shell is gnome
[02:25] <cara> Zuropazlefuf, ok Unity is a shell around gnome..
[02:25] <cara> yeah gnome-shell
[02:25] <Zuropazlefuf> cara: for the dm, ubuntu = unity shell, GNOME = gnome-shell
[02:25]  * cara must have either coffee or some drink
[02:25] <Zuropazlefuf> and what's mutter for?
[02:25] <zarbula> WoC: so I followed the guide, and now my digital sound reciever says 'PCM 96' but I still have zero sound.  what else do I need to do, for ALSA to pick up my x-fi card's sound?
[02:25] <Vooloo> it says q-flash, update bios from drive
[02:26] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, yeah sounds like the one
[02:26] <Gentoo64> mines an asus it has ez-flash
[02:26] <Gentoo64> same thing
[02:26] <Zuropazlefuf> urlin2u: right from package manager/soft center, gnome package
[02:26] <zulax> in the startup application, how can i make a program run even if it needs a sudo user?
[02:26] <Zuropazlefuf> zulax: gksu
[02:27] <Zuropazlefuf> use that
[02:27] <urlin2u> Zuropazlefuf, I just ran sudo apt-get install gnome-shell I believe there is no gnome package per-sat I beleive.
[02:27] <Zuropazlefuf> zulax: is gui sudo
[02:27] <zulax> thx, never knew that before
[02:27] <urlin2u> persay*
[02:27] <WoC> zarbula, you have it set in alsa-mixer ?
[02:27] <Zuropazlefuf> urlin2u: is a metapackage
[02:27] <Zuropazlefuf> 95mb
[02:27] <Zuropazlefuf> !gnome
[02:27] <Zuropazlefuf> aw
[02:27] <urlin2u> Zuropazlefuf, so at the login if you choose gnome you get unity
[02:27] <Zuropazlefuf> !gnome3
[02:28] <urlin2u> Zuropazlefuf, which ubuntu release?
[02:28] <Zuropazlefuf> yes, this only happens when using lightdm
[02:28] <zulax> Zuropazlefuf, is the command like gksu /usr/sbin myprogram ?
[02:28] <Zuropazlefuf> this is a fresh install
[02:28] <jeremiah_> Why can't I install anything on ubuntu 6.06?
[02:28] <cara> really?
[02:28] <Zuropazlefuf> zulax: yes, it's gui prompt for sudo
[02:28] <cara> wow
[02:29] <cara> jeremiah_, um you probably want to update
[02:29] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, every release before 10.04 is eol
[02:29] <Zuropazlefuf> cara: why suprised?
[02:29] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, because its so old
[02:29] <bastidrazor> !eol > jeremiah_
[02:29] <cara> Zuropazlefuf, I was surprised about Ubuntu 6.06
[02:29] <jeremiah_> I am laughing my head off now
[02:29] <cara> err 6.10 or 6.04
[02:29] <Zuropazlefuf> im using fresh 11.10 guys
[02:29] <Zuropazlefuf> lol
[02:30] <Zuropazlefuf> urlin2u: ^^
[02:30] <zulax> Zuropazlefuf, me too but its killing my battery
[02:30] <urlin2u> Zuropazlefuf,  so at the login if you choose gnome you get unity
[02:30] <Zuropazlefuf> lol
[02:30] <cara> Zuropazlefuf, install gnome-shell then
[02:30] <Zuropazlefuf> urlin2u: yes, only on lightdm
[02:30] <urlin2u> Zuropazlefuf, not sure of the problem.
[02:30] <zulax> Zuropazlefuf, i am little confused, i want to run /usr/sbin/powertop during startup program,
[02:31] <zulax> but it needs password , so how can i pre-feed passwrod
[02:31] <Zuropazlefuf> im using gnome-shell but lightdm is the only DM which launches Ubuntu instead of GNOME
[02:31] <jeremiah_> Why is linux so hard to learn and use?
[02:31] <Zuropazlefuf> zulax: umm nevermindthat
[02:31] <Zuropazlefuf> lol
[02:31] <Gentoo64> zulax, not sure if ubuntu uses something like /etc/rc.local
[02:31] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, it is hmmmm.
[02:31] <Zuropazlefuf> zulax: Gentoo64: it does
[02:31] <Gentoo64> use that
[02:32] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, maybe you're so used to windows?
[02:32] <NelsonM> well i built Realtek's r8168 drivers from source and they seem to be working great. It's an intermittent error though, so no way to be sure.
[02:32] <helpplease> hello
[02:32] <jeremiah_> ya
[02:32] <helpplease> i need some help bycreating a stat script
[02:32] <Gentoo64> thats why linux seems hard..
[02:32] <helpplease> start
[02:32] <Gentoo64> in reality its not
[02:32] <oscar76> helpplease: to do what?
[02:32] <Zuropazlefuf> why also, monitor goes out of range when i boot the system??
[02:32] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, I started on open source so I didn't have any MS background or any really that probably helped
[02:32] <Zuropazlefuf> umm
[02:33] <Gentoo64> Zuropazlefuf, every time?
[02:33] <cara> Zuropazlefuf, (too many Z names!!!!) have you tried running: sudo /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults -s gnome-shell
[02:33] <oscar76> jeremiah_: compared with what?
[02:33] <Zuropazlefuf> lol}
[02:33] <jeremiah_> windows
[02:33] <zulax> Gentoo64, whats the syntax like? sudo /usr/sbin/powertop -p *****  ?
[02:33] <Shadin> It's definitely different.  I started on DOS/Windows and it took time to get used to how to do things.  I use Windows 7 and Linux both now and enjoy both.
[02:33]  * cara is lazy and likes tab-complete
[02:33] <Gentoo64> zulax, you dont need sudo
[02:34] <Gentoo64> zulax, just the command
[02:34] <helpplease> ubuntu start the service at startup an then it is in the programm and going not on, (i am german ;D)
[02:34] <zulax> cool
[02:34] <zulax> thanks
[02:34] <oscar76> jeremiah_: people don't learn windows, only (mis)use it
[02:34] <cara> I thought people only break windows
[02:34] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, how long you been working on linux and how often?
[02:34] <goddard> anyone else have a problem with the new kernel update?
[02:34] <Zuropazlefuf> Gentoo64: yes, out of range everytime, im not sure what's going on on the screen, only by doing arrowing i see later when display changes that it ran scandisks :P
[02:35] <jeremiah_> about a month and until now, not often.
[02:35] <Gentoo64> Zuropazlefuf, does turning the monitor on/off sort it out?
[02:35] <Fudge> can someone please tail -n 1 /etc/lsb-release
[02:35] <Gentoo64> i had a monitor that did that (old one)
[02:35] <cara> "Have you tried turning off and on again"
[02:35] <cara> Man I love I.T. Crowd
[02:35] <helpplease> some know how to change that ubuntu going on starting
[02:35] <Gentoo64> :)
[02:35] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, took me 6 months to not delete the wrong stuff and I had no computer experience, give it time.
[02:36] <Zuropazlefuf> ah, im trying to mak pulseaudio be system sound server instead of alsa as system and per-user pulseaudio.
[02:36] <Zuropazlefuf> Gentoo64: no lol
[02:36] <jeremiah_> i'll try
[02:36] <Zuropazlefuf> Gentoo64: is monitor itself protection
[02:36] <gabe> hello, ever since  I've been using 11.04 and now 11.10 my computer is really slow... I open a few programs it my system comes down to its knees really easily. Is Ubuntu now taking up so many resources (like Windows Vista)? My laptop is not old at all and it's got 3GB of RAM, which should be enough
[02:36] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, main thing is dont give up when you find something hard and go back to windows, or youll never learn
[02:36] <Zuropazlefuf> it happens because bad resolution/not supported
[02:36] <Gentoo64> Zuropazlefuf, did you update something?
[02:37] <Gentoo64> nvidia or something
[02:37] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe: have you checked system monitor
[02:37] <jeremiah_> why do i get an error every time  i start my pc saying something about to many megaherz?
[02:37] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, i think your cpu might be too fast
[02:37] <Gentoo64> overclocked?
[02:37] <NelsonM> hmm, it consistently takes 21 seconds for eth0 to come up after boot now. could that be normal? it seems wrong, and screws up ntp
[02:37] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: yes, and always one of my CPUs is at 100%
[02:37] <Zuropazlefuf> Gentoo64: hmm nono, why u ask? is fresh install, and i didn't got the proper drivers yet
[02:38] <helpplease> i need somthing like this in a script: screen -S xyz than xyz.sh and leef the screen, that on startup
[02:38] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe: does the disk have swap?
[02:38] <jeremiah_> uh it is like ten years old.
[02:38] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, try dmesg
[02:38] <jeremiah_> i got it for free
[02:38] <jeremiah_> ???
[02:38] <Gentoo64> was joking
[02:38] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: the other runs at about 30% for like 30 seconds and then they switch but it's always one at 100% and the other at 30%
[02:38] <helpplease> HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP
[02:39] <helpplease> .D
[02:39] <Gentoo64> gabe, run top or system mnoitor and find out whats using he cpu
[02:39] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: yes it does, but for RAM it's only using about 1.8 GB out of 3GB
[02:39] <zulax> Gentoo64, I added that line, had some difficulty loggin but, but now i am in - how do i know that command ran?
[02:39] <urlin2u> ! help > helpplease
[02:39] <Gentoo64> zulax, they need at have .start at the end
[02:40] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe: is too wired unless u are running it on a slow machine/disk/cd(if is livecd)
[02:40] <ryannathans> after changing my mac address I can't connect to my wlan network, I get this error in dmesg after it sits there and tries to connect - [  440.657423] wlan0: deauthenticated from 00:1c:df:a2:b9:28 (Reason: 2)
[02:40] <zulax> like /usr/sbin/powertop.start ? Gentoo64
[02:40] <oscar76> helpplease: try copying your script to /etc/xdg/autostart/ folder
[02:40] <gabe> Gentoo64: what's the paste wetsite please? I'd like you to see the output
[02:40] <ryannathans> i could do this fine in 10.10
[02:40] <Gentoo64> zulax, no .start at thene dn of the filename in rc.local
[02:40] <jeremiah_> how am i sappose to run minecraft in xubuntu?
[02:40] <Gentoo64> gabe, dpaste is one
[02:40] <ryannathans> jeremiah_: install java
[02:40] <Zuropazlefuf> ummm, how i can set as system sound default pulseaudio?
[02:40] <urlin2u> !pastebin | gabe
[02:40] <ryannathans> jeremiah_: run the .jar
[02:40] <Zuropazlefuf> yea}
[02:40] <helpplease> there is no folder like that name
[02:41] <helpplease> i am at ubuntu server 11.10
[02:41] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: It's a dual core PC with 3GB of RAM
[02:41] <Zuropazlefuf> aw
[02:41] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe: pastebin.com
[02:41] <jeremiah_> How do i do install java? (already tried and failed)
[02:41] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: I'll post CPU info plus top output
[02:41] <gabe> hold on guys :)
[02:41] <newbie14> hi, can someone help me with ubuntu problems?
[02:41] <Gentoo64> !java
[02:41] <Gentoo64> !icedtea
[02:42] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe: and, are disk rpm good? and are u running off from cd?
[02:42] <newbie14> on some games, the screen gets all garbaged.. and some games start and then crash
[02:42] <Gentoo64> gabe, just paste the 1 top line in here
[02:42] <ryannathans> jeremiah_: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[02:42] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: nope, it's a fully installed system
[02:42] <mega2> i have ubuntu server 10.04 network card just went down if i replace if will it work
[02:42] <Zuropazlefuf> oh
[02:43] <jeremiah_> command not found or something like that
[02:43] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe: could be the graphic card?
[02:43] <ryannathans> jeremiah_: then right click minecraft.jar and in the settings somewhere you want to allow execution and you want to open it with openjdk
[02:43] <ryannathans> after changing my mac address I can't connect to my wlan network, I get this error in dmesg after it sits there and tries to connect - [  440.657423] wlan0: deauthenticated from 00:1c:df:a2:b9:28 (Reason: 2), it worked fine in 10.10, i just installed 11.10
[02:43] <helpplease> ey
[02:43] <oscar76> helpplease: sorry, Im running 10.04
[02:43] <gabe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/812608/
[02:44] <gabe> check it out please :)
[02:44] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_: try this, http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
[02:44] <Gentoo64> gabe, zeitgeist then
[02:44] <Gentoo64> idk why its using 100 cpu
[02:44] <helpplease> you dont know how to create your own startupscript in /etc/ini.d/ ?
[02:44] <Zuropazlefuf> lol gabe
[02:44] <gabe> what's funny? :)
[02:45] <gabe> Gentoo64: what's zeitgeist?
[02:45] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe why u got zeitgeist running?
[02:45] <Gentoo64> gabe, some gnome thing i think
[02:45] <Gentoo64> sounds like trash to me
[02:45] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: I don't even know what it is
[02:45] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe: do sudo killall zeitgest
[02:45] <Zuropazlefuf> fa
[02:45] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe: do this
[02:45] <Zuropazlefuf> pstree
[02:45] <helpplease> and i do sudo update-rc.d myscript.sh defaults
[02:45] <Zuropazlefuf> and post that
[02:45] <Vooloo> yeah wonderful realtek, updating bios does not solve the issue
[02:45] <jeremiah_> i have java. just cant install it. ( i have the tar file)
[02:45] <urlin2u> gabe, did you install synapse?
[02:46] <helpplease> after restart server stop at the programm
[02:46] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, it wont
[02:46] <go87654> hello. may i ask few questions fow administration in pm?
[02:46] <ryannathans> after changing my mac address I can't connect to my wlan network, I get this error in dmesg after it sits there and tries to connect - [  440.657423] wlan0: deauthenticated from 00:1c:df:a2:b9:28 (Reason: 2), it worked fine in 10.10, i just installed 11.10
[02:46] <oscar76> helpplease: I have not tried nor needed
[02:46] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_: use this and see if u got java http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
[02:46] <Vooloo> so are there any other "fixes" for r8168?
[02:46] <oscar76> helpplease: maybe you need to end the line with &
[02:46] <jeremiah_> I already did and working on it now.
[02:46] <NelsonM> the r8168 driver isn't solving my problem either; still taking 10-120 seconds to initialize eth0 after boot.
[02:47] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_: and dl the linux self extract java
[02:47] <Gentoo64> NelsonM, just buy an intel card like loads others have lol
[02:47] <helpplease> witch line?
[02:47] <Vooloo> my computer is unusable
[02:47] <Zuropazlefuf> hmm
[02:47] <jeremiah_> it says something is wrong. java is not working.
[02:47] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, why?
[02:47] <Zuropazlefuf> how i can open bin?
[02:47] <ryannathans> NelsonM: maybe something funky in /etc/network/interface
[02:47] <Vooloo> Gentoo64: because realtek doesnt work
[02:47] <oscar76> helpplease: the line where it stops
[02:47] <Zuropazlefuf> aw
[02:47] <jeremiah_> and i extracted it already.
[02:47] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, at all?
[02:47] <NelsonM> ryannathans: thanks, nah, this is the realtek driver problem we've been talking about. it's a well known linux driver bug
[02:47] <Vooloo> Gentoo64: well, it drops connection every 10 mins, so I would classify that as useless
[02:48] <ActionPa1snip> NelsonM: are there any bugs reported?
[02:48] <NelsonM> although mine doesn't seem to drop packets at all, it's just not coming up right
[02:48] <ryannathans> NelsonM: naww, i'm having network problems too
[02:48] <ryannathans> I'm about to open a bug report
[02:48] <gabe> urlin2u: no, I do not know what that is
[02:48] <Vooloo> so, what standalone network card works 100% ?
[02:48] <evernoob> I've just installed 11.10 64bit to existing LUKS LVM for /, and separate LUKS volume for /home. On boot, I have to supply passphrase twice, even though the passphrases are the same for the LVM and the /home partition. In openSuse I used to do mkinitrd to fix this - how can I fix it in 11.10?
[02:48] <NelsonM> actionpa1snip: yes, many bugs. the most useful one is from 2007. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/141343
[02:48] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, intel nics all work 100%
[02:49] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/812611/
[02:49] <Vooloo> I read 100 launchpad "fix released" posts and nothing works
[02:49] <helpplease> i think you dont understand, its stopping in the programm and waiting so so long to the programm exit
[02:49] <dies_irae> lolololol --> Out of memory: Kill process 5916 (firefox) score 360 or sacrifice child
[02:49] <Zuropazlefuf> ok, where i need to get the ati raedon xpress 200 drivers for ubuntu 11.10 32 bits???
[02:49] <ActionPa1snip> NelsonM: sounds like one to avoid
[02:50] <ActionPa1snip> !ati | Zuropazlefuf
[02:50] <Gentoo64> NelsonM, its a pita card
[02:50] <Gentoo64> id seriously buy a decent one
[02:50] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe: why are you using zeitgiest for?
[02:50] <ActionPa1snip> dies_irae: sounds about right for firefox ;)
[02:50] <NelsonM> yeah, but it's the on board ethernet chip for a whole lot of common motherboards. and it works fine in windows.
[02:50] <Zuropazlefuf> what *
[02:50] <Gentoo64> 1- linux dont give the right driver, 2- windows shuts it off by default
[02:50] <NelsonM> and realtek even makes linux drivers! it's weird it's been a bug for so long
[02:50] <ActionPa1snip> NelsonM: different OS has different support
[02:50] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: like I said... I do not know what that is, something else must have initiated it
[02:50] <ryannathans> What package do I file this bug report on?  after changing my mac address I can't connect to my wlan network, I get this error in dmesg after it sits there and tries to connect - [  440.657423] wlan0: deauthenticated from 00:1c:df:a2:b9:28 (Reason: 2), it worked fine in 10.10, i just installed 11.10
[02:51] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe: go to uninstall that
[02:51] <ActionPa1snip> NelsonM: I'd just disable the onboard, buy a PCI nic and slam it in
[02:51] <Gentoo64> gabe, zeitgeist is part of gnome
[02:51] <Vooloo> I dont even know what PCI type of ports my MB have
[02:51] <Gentoo64> afaik
[02:51] <ActionPa1snip> ryannathans: network-manager imho
[02:51] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: I can't kill it anyway... where did you see it? I issued "ps -A | grep zeitgiest" and nothing came up
[02:51] <NelsonM> actionpa1snip: yeah, it may come to that. still seems like a fail though, frustrating.
[02:51] <ryannathans> ActionPa1snip: cool, thanks
[02:51] <Vooloo> http://www.gigabyte.com/fileupload/product/2/3161/1204.jpg <- what type of PCI are the two on the left side?
[02:51] <helpplease> so i only musst wirte a command in the script that ubutnu dont should wait of the programm,just going on his jobs
[02:51] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe, the pstree
[02:51] <ActionPa1snip> NelsonM: frustrating indeed
[02:51] <gabe> Gentoo64: so I shouldn't touch that?
[02:51] <Gentoo64> gabe, no leave it
[02:51] <Zuropazlefuf> it runs alone + inside gnome
[02:52] <NelsonM> (I enabled WOL on the realtek via ethtool in linux, after reboot it still didn't come up for 11 seconds.)
[02:52] <Gentoo64> im quite sure its compulsory
[02:52] <Zuropazlefuf> these process}
[02:52] <gabe> Gentoo64: so is that what's killing my CPU?
[02:52] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe: session proceses
[02:52] <Zuropazlefuf> yeah
[02:52] <Gentoo64> gabe, zeitgeist
[02:52] <Gentoo64> lol
[02:52] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: but Gentoo64 says to leave it
[02:53] <Gentoo64> gabe, try killing it
[02:53] <Gentoo64> does it kill the cpu every reboot?
[02:53] <Gentoo64> or just after a while
[02:53] <gabe> Gentoo64: so I should kill the process but not uninstall it?
[02:53] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe, see, u got the zeit right inside ur session
[02:53] <Gentoo64> sounds like some bug
[02:53] <Zuropazlefuf> Gentoo64: look at the pstree paste
[02:53] <Zuropazlefuf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/812611/
[02:54] <jeremiah_> My harddrive is making weird sounds clank clunk clunk clank clunk clunk...
[02:54] <gabe> Gentoo64: not really at boot, but when I'm using the laptop... it takes time to load browser, folders, files, anything... sometimes it hangs up for a few seconds
[02:54] <Vooloo> intel PWLA8391GT does not seem by the looks of the image to fit into my pci slot
[02:54] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, ?
[02:54] <jeremiah_> yes?
[02:55] <Gentoo64> hard drives do make noises :)
[02:55] <sirspazzolot> does anybody want to help me out with apache?
[02:55] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, do you have a pcie slot?
[02:55] <jeremiah_> not like this... (except the dying ones.)
[02:56] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, no  idea
[02:56] <Vooloo> Gentoo64: dont know, I have the two slots on the left side available here: http://www.gigabyte.com/fileupload/product/2/3161/1204.jpg
[02:56] <jeremiah_> what?
[02:56] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, no idea why it making funny noises
[02:56] <Vooloo> the white ones
[02:56] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: ok I killed that zeit*** thing... now my question is, will it re-initiate every time I boot up the system?
[02:56] <Vooloo> and one blue
[02:56] <sirspazzolot> is this channel appropriate for apache-related questions?
[02:56] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, yeah pcie-1
[02:56] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/network-adapters/gigabit-network-adapters/gigabit-ct-desktop-adapter.html
[02:56] <Gentoo64> thats a decent card
[02:56] <jeremiah_> du. That is what a dying hdd makes when it is dying.
[02:57] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf: wow I could hear my CPU take a break now
[02:57] <Vooloo> Gentoo64: what is the blue slot?
[02:57] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, pcie-16
[02:57] <Vooloo> Gentoo64: i cant fit that card, my graphics card takes up too much space
[02:57] <Zuropazlefuf> gabe: maybe, check startup apps
[02:57] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, if you only have 1 gpu then itll fit
[02:57] <arulmozhi> how can i find the dependencies of a package
[02:57] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, it should anywya
[02:57] <Vooloo> Gentoo64: the only space I have are the two long white ones and the blue
[02:58] <gabe> Zuropazlefuf & Gentoo64: thanks guys :)
[02:58] <gabe> goodbye :)
[02:58] <Zuropazlefuf> cya gabe
[02:58] <Zuropazlefuf> ummm+
[02:58] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, well to be safe get any "pci" one then,. not "pci-e"
[02:58] <Gentoo64> the white slows at bottom are plain pcu
[02:58] <Gentoo64> pci*
[02:59] <Gentoo64> the tiny white ones are pcie-1
[02:59] <Zuropazlefuf> any idea about session modes?
[02:59] <Zuropazlefuf> hello?
[02:59] <Vooloo> Gentoo64: but look at the pins here, there are 3 and the pci slot only have 2
[02:59] <Vooloo> http://salestores.com/stores/images/images_747/PWLA8391GT.jpg
[02:59] <arulmozhi> how can i find the dependencies of a package ??????
[03:00] <jeremiah_> Is it good that i have a pentium 2 460 mhz cpu?
[03:00] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, looks like normal pci.. itll fit
[03:00] <Zuropazlefuf> what do i need to modify to make pulseaudio system default??
[03:00] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, for normal desktop use?
[03:00] <jeremiah_> yes.
[03:00] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, are you running gnome ubuntu on that?
[03:00] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_: lol that's for old OS
[03:01] <jeremiah_>  no xubuntu 8.10
[03:01] <Vooloo> Gentoo64: ok, you know what low profile means?
[03:01] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_: choose a lower resouce usage linux for that cpu
[03:01] <Zuropazlefuf> umm
[03:01] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, yea, the metal bit at the end is smaller
[03:01] <ActionPa1snip> jeremiah_: LXDE wil make your OS more responsive
[03:01] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, most low profile cards come with an adapter that will fit in normal pc
[03:01] <jeremiah_> It works great though. have any ideas for a smaller one?
[03:01] <ActionPa1snip> jeremiah_: Intrepid has no further updates and is EOL
[03:01] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, lxde is very slightly faster  than xfce
[03:02] <ActionPa1snip> jeremiah_: Lubuntu is super slim and mean :)
[03:02] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_: maybe a pure debian, and with blackbox
[03:02] <jeremiah_> what is THAT?
[03:02] <Vooloo> k, if this card doesn't work I'm going to burn up this machine
[03:02] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, just another desktop
[03:02] <Gentoo64> Vooloo, it will work
[03:02] <Gentoo64> promise
[03:02] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_: lubuntu is a variant
[03:02] <jeremiah_> so i should try debian
[03:02] <Zuropazlefuf> which uses LXDE
[03:02] <jeremiah_> pr lubuntu
[03:02] <Zuropazlefuf> yeah, jeremiah_  hmm lol
[03:02] <Gentoo64> lol
[03:03] <jeremiah_> or not qr
[03:03] <Gentoo64> is use bsd on something that old
[03:03] <ActionPa1snip> jeremiah_: looks like this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/Desktop.png  ;)
[03:03] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: it looks like a win7 lol
[03:03] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: why, because the icons in the panel don't have text?
[03:03] <Zuropazlefuf> but more wireder
[03:03] <Zuropazlefuf> lol
[03:04] <Zuropazlefuf> and the wallpaper gives such a win look xD
[03:04] <jeremiah_> could i somehow just install it to my pc without having to burn a disk or use a usb stick?
[03:04] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: I like blue, its easy on the eyes
[03:04] <ActionPa1snip> :)
[03:04] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, no
[03:04] <Gentoo64> not really
[03:04] <aBound> Indeed, a darker color is easier on the eyes.
[03:04] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: umm, how about gnome's default blue?
[03:04] <Zuropazlefuf> lol
[03:05] <Zuropazlefuf> im fine here with blueish look :D
[03:05] <jeremiah_> then what? i am out of disks. and have no money. I am only.... very young
[03:05] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, a cd is like 20p
[03:05] <Zuropazlefuf> Gentoo64: help me out
[03:05] <Gentoo64> you could find that on the floor
[03:05] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: do you mean the stripey thing?
[03:05] <jeremiah_> Uh i am in th usa.
[03:05] <Zuropazlefuf> yep ActionPa1snip
[03:06] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: its not bad at all :)
[03:06] <Zuropazlefuf> yep
[03:06] <jeremiah_> And i cant buy them single.
[03:06] <toxrn> jeremiah_: like 5 cents
[03:06] <toxrn> 50
[03:06] <Gentoo64> Zuropazlefuf, with what
[03:06] <ActionPa1snip> jeremiah_: do you not have a USB stick you can use?
[03:06] <toxrn> nope, 30
[03:06] <Gentoo64> toxrn, thanks for the conversion
[03:07] <jeremiah_> yes. but i have never used it for installing things. Does it have to be empty for it?
[03:07] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, yes
[03:07] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: im using right now, gnome 3 with clearlooks window deco and whiteglass mouse, icon theme, humanity dark and adwalta for gtk
[03:07] <Datalink> does anyone know where gstreamer keeps it's plugins?
[03:08] <jeremiah_> hmmm. In the bios there is no option for using a usb stick
[03:08] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, the comp is too old to boot from usb
[03:08] <Gentoo64> its very old
[03:08] <Gentoo64> you could use plop
[03:08] <Zuropazlefuf> ah, for inside areas like app toolbars ,etc it uses default icon set, and oh well
[03:08] <Gentoo64> or get a cd
[03:08] <jeremiah_> ya probably is
[03:08] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1599293
[03:09] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, if i was u id buy a cdrw
[03:09] <Gentoo64> that way u can reuse it
[03:09] <Zuropazlefuf> Gentoo64: oh, why when i change window decoration it takes no effect unless i restart session/wm?....
[03:10] <Gentoo64> Zuropazlefuf, no idea :s
[03:10] <Zuropazlefuf> that happens on most sessions
[03:10] <jeremiah_> funny. 25$ for about 50. I have 0$
[03:10] <Gentoo64> jeremiah_, cant really do much :)
[03:10] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: humanity theme in LXDE (made using GTK3.2) under Precise with Lubuntu default theme and wallpaper
[03:10] <Zuropazlefuf> Gentoo64: and why lightdm haves the iusse of launching unity (ubuntu) when i want gnome?
[03:10] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, you can install with just a ISO the link has the instructions.
[03:11] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: also with custom pidgin and parcellite icons for the panel
[03:11] <Gentoo64> !nounity | Zuropazlefuf
[03:11] <jeremiah_> the link did not help. but i will find a way!
[03:11] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: lol, i got alot of packages here :P
[03:11] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: for the themes you mean?
[03:11] <Zuropazlefuf> Gentoo64: i have the shell installed!
[03:11] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, if you post on the ubuntu forums the person who made that thread will probably get you set up.
[03:12] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: yeah, got many cool packages here
[03:12] <zulax> i added /etc/sbin/powertop on my rc.local, but when i login the powertop screes shows and i get kickedback to login page
[03:12] <Zuropazlefuf> Gentoo64: otherwise, how come im using the black gnome3 bar?
[03:13] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: I'd make a metapackage for them, makes life easier
[03:13] <Zuropazlefuf> zulax: af, do not try it on login something that is not prepared/desgined for login mode
[03:13] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: lol yeah
[03:13] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: a bigger!
[03:13] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: umm, or maybe split it in cats....
[03:14] <zulax> Zuropazlefuf, how can i make it run automatically after the login?
[03:14] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: yeah, metapacakges are great
[03:14] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: no, you installed the packages from PPAs and such right?
[03:14] <zulax> i cant add it in startup application casue it needs a sudo password
[03:14] <Zuropazlefuf> zulax: add the script or whatever to the startup
[03:14] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: nono, im installed from the official repo
[03:14] <Zuropazlefuf> i*
[03:15] <ActionPa1snip> zulax: I've gotten around that by making a script to run the command with a looong sleep, then make rc.local run the script backgrounded. Its hacky but it works
[03:15] <Datalink> does anyone know where gstreamer0.10 keeps it's plugins?
[03:15] <Zuropazlefuf> zulax: to startup list
[03:15] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: even easier then :)
[03:15] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: yeah
[03:15] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: add that meta to the official repo then, based on official packages
[03:15] <Zuropazlefuf> :D
[03:15] <zulax> ActionPa1snip, good idea, so in rc.local put first sleep 300 and then put the command?
[03:16] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: I guess, metapackages make life tones easier
[03:16] <miller618> does anyone know of a alternative to microsoft onenote for linux??  im using onenote as interactive classroom and i want to be able to do this in linux instead as it is a perfered OS of mine
[03:16] <ActionPa1snip> zulax: no, or the boot wil simply hang that long, you need a script which can be backgrounded then use the sleep there
[03:16] <zulax> ok
[03:16] <jeremiah_> should i get debian 64 or 32 bit?
[03:16] <NelsonM> ok I tried all the recommended fixes for this Realtek r8168 NIC and none work. It just doesn't quite work right in linux. Lots of details: http://nelsonslog.wordpress.com/2012/01/22/realtek-ethernet-drivers-r8169-vs-r8168/
[03:16] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: now i got some attention from you, why lightdm runs unity instead of gnome shell, it only happens on lightdm, and i have gnome shell installed
[03:16] <ActionPa1snip> zulax: the script will form its own thread and the system will continue to boot but the script will be running the sleep command
[03:17] <evernoob> I've just installed 11.10 64bit to existing LUKS LVM for /, and separate LUKS volume for /home. On boot, I have to supply passphrase twice, even though the passphrases are the same for the LVM and the /home partition. How can I fix this?
[03:17] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: no idea, maybe there needs to be a new entry in the menu.
[03:17] <Vooloo> miller618: tried http://alternativeto.net/software/microsoft-onenote/ ?
[03:17] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: in any other DM it works great, troubles with lightdm :(
[03:18] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: switch dm then..
[03:18] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: are there bugs reported?
[03:18] <miller618> thanks will do i just need it so my prof can interact on my sccreen in a connected session
[03:18] <miller618> ill take a look now
[03:18] <Yukiteru> yy/quit
[03:18] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: and why do i need to restart session/restart wm? to make window decorations to take effect?
[03:19] <jeremiah_> should i get debian 32 or 64 bit???????
[03:19] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: idk nothing about bug reported
[03:19] <Zuropazlefuf> s
[03:19] <Zuropazlefuf> aff
[03:19] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: I'd report one
[03:19] <alazyworkaholic> How should I be able to tell if my server has nfsv4 or nfsv3?
[03:19] <Zuropazlefuf> i didn't even search for that
[03:19] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: so idk
[03:19] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: can you check_
[03:20] <jeremiah_> hello?
[03:20] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: There should be a gnome-shell entry in the cog menu, you could make one
[03:20] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_: hey, wat
[03:20] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: yes is there
[03:20] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: run:   ubuntu-bug lightdm     and you can report your issue
[03:20] <jeremiah_> should i get debian 64 or 32 bit?
[03:20] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: but when i choose that, it runs ubuntu
[03:20] <miller618> 64
[03:20] <edve> it depends of your processor...
[03:20] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_: 32 of course
[03:21] <edve> what do you have though?
[03:21] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_ got a p2 cpu, too bad, 460mhz
[03:21] <edve> 32 bit lol
[03:21] <jeremiah_> what does that mean?
[03:21] <edve> 64 is not gonna work :p
[03:21] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_: choose x86
[03:21] <jeremiah_> ya ok...
[03:22] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_: download 32-bits debian.
[03:22] <jeremiah_> ok. thanks.
[03:22] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: I'd expect it to run ubuntu...
[03:22] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: hmm, what's the keyboard combination for gnome-shell run apps?
[03:22] <edve> f2+alt
[03:23] <Zuropazlefuf> because idk, alt+f2 does not work
[03:23] <miller618> i cant find anything for linux for interactive classroom like microsft onenote even on that site
[03:23] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: ??
[03:23] <edve> hmm
[03:23] <miller618> i need to be able to connect to the profs session
[03:23] <trism> Zuropazlefuf: it is disabled by default in some cases, enable it in System Settings/Keyboard/Shortcuts/System
[03:23] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: no idea, I don't use gnome shell
[03:23] <Zuropazlefuf> miller618: libreoffice does the trick_
[03:23] <Zuropazlefuf> ??
[03:23] <edve> try ctrl+alt+f1 to go into the main terminal01
[03:23] <edve> try by there
[03:23] <miller618> nice i will check it out
[03:23] <edve> or simply into a terminal
[03:24] <Zuropazlefuf> trism: umm, it's 11.10 gnome 3 shell
[03:24] <trism> Zuropazlefuf: yes
[03:24] <trism> Zuropazlefuf: click your username in the top right corner, System Settings/Keyboard, etc etc
[03:24] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: is ok using Report a problem app?
[03:25] <Zuropazlefuf> ok
[03:25] <Naeblis> Hey. It appears that I can't install php on my Ubuntu 11.04. I get this error : The following packages have unmet dependencies: libapache2-mod-php5 : Depends: php5-common (= 5.3.5-1ubuntu7) but 5.3.5-1ubuntu7.4 is to be installed. E:Broken Packages.
[03:25] <Naeblis> any ideas?
[03:26] <Datalink> sudo apt-get install php5-common libapache2-mod-php5
[03:26] <miller618> Zuropazlefuf: will libreoffice connect to ms onenote interactive session ?
[03:27] <Naeblis> Datalink, no go.
[03:27] <Zuropazlefuf> miller618: maybe
[03:27] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: if you want, the command I gave does the same..
[03:27] <Zuropazlefuf> oh lol
[03:27] <miller618> but it has the option that u know of of creating a session to do the same thing
[03:27] <ActionPa1snip> Naeblis: try:  sudo apt-get -f install
[03:28] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: tada, posted in lpad
[03:28] <Naeblis> ActionPa1snip, still not working. :(
[03:28] <Datalink> Naeblis, sudo apt-get -f install
[03:28] <StedyLfo> http://tinychat.com/aj7hg
[03:28] <jeremiah_> I have a question about downloading debian. when i got to the torrent page there where all these weird torrent things which do i click? or does it matter?
[03:29] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: noticed that the icon does nothing
[03:29] <Zuropazlefuf> and, i lost debian menu :(
[03:29] <Datalink> Naeblis, that should deal with the floating dependency and let you install php5-common and the apache
[03:29] <Zuropazlefuf> how do i restore the menus back to default?
[03:29] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: what icon?
[03:29] <Zuropazlefuf> the report problem
[03:29] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: oh, never used it. I always use the ubuntu-bug command
[03:30] <urlin2u> jeremiah_, give me the link to the page.
[03:30] <jeremiah_> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.3/i386/bt-cd/
[03:30] <Naeblis> Datalink, when I do use the -f, it installs git-man liberror-perl. But still can't install php.
[03:30] <ActionPa1snip> jeremiah_: I'd ask in #debian
[03:31] <jeremiah_> wha?
[03:31] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: i lost some stuff in menu, how i make system reset it to default and put the right stuff the system haves?
[03:32] <Zuropazlefuf> jeremiah_: yeah, ubuntu is not debian, u need to go debian channel for this
[03:32] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: try pressing ALT+F2 and run:  gnome-shell --replace     it will reread your config
[03:32] <Zuropazlefuf> hmm, why lol, it does not change the menus, and i had deleted something...
[03:33] <hoshi411> anyone have a site with good instructions on how to get ubuntu dual booting on an asus transformer?
[03:33] <hoshi411> the best site i found was this
[03:33] <hoshi411> http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/ASUS_Eee_Pad_Transformer/How_to_install_Ubuntu#Installing_from_a_computer_running_linux
[03:33] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: is the same as restarting session, the things i lost are lost forever because i deleted it from edit menu app
[03:33] <StedyLfo> http://tinychat.com/aj7hg
[03:33] <hoshi411> but they don't tel l me how to use nvflash to install the rom
[03:34] <Zuropazlefuf> hoshi411: register and ask?
[03:34] <hoshi411> register? with xda you mean?
[03:34] <Zuropazlefuf> yea
[03:34] <Datalink> Naeblis, I have no idea why PHP would fail to install unless it where already installed...
[03:34] <hoshi411> ah i see
[03:34] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip??
[03:34] <rasec> ya
[03:34] <rasec> jj
[03:35] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: what?
[03:35] <Naeblis> Datalink, so it would say "broken package", as it is in this case?
[03:35] <cipher__> with openbox nautilus hijacks the desktop and such whenever I go to open a directory. is there anything I can do to fix this? Would setting thunar to default work?
[03:35] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: the --replace  makes the config be reread. I'm not sure how to default the settins
[03:35] <Fudge> whre can i review the gconf settings  file
[03:36] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: umm, yeah, that's why it do not help, that deletion was saved :(
[03:36] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: possibly https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=987505#p987505
[03:36] <Zuropazlefuf> oh
[03:38] <evernoob> what is equivalent to mkinitrd in Ubuntu?
[03:39] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: i do not want to reset it all
[03:39] <Zuropazlefuf> only the menu part
[03:39] <ratcheer> evernoob: update-initramfs
[03:39] <flowerpot> evernoob, maybe check out initramfs-tools?
[03:40] <flowerpot> found that by running apt-cache search initrd
[03:40] <flowerpot> you can view more info on it via apt-cache show initrd
[03:40] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: idea how i can make pulseaudio as the only and default system audio server??
[03:40] <flowerpot> errrr sorry apt-cache show initramfs-tools
[03:40] <evernoob> thanks, will check
[03:40] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip?
[03:41] <Emery> anyone around
[03:41] <urlin2u> nope
[03:41] <aademarco> yep
[03:41] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: pulse is an abstraction for Alsa, you can't just have pulse
[03:41] <Emery> I want to use root on ubuntu
[03:41] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: have some patience..
[03:42] <ActionPa1snip> Emery: then run:  sudo -i   and you will be root
[03:42] <Emery> I want to use SU
[03:42] <ActionPa1snip> Emery: run:  exit    when you are done
[03:42] <urlin2u> Emery, sudo -i
[03:42] <ActionPa1snip> Emery: its not supported, advised or needed
[03:42] <Emery> But i want to use su ?  On boot, I have to supply passphrase twice, even though the passphrases are the same for the LVM and the /home partition. How can I fix this?
[03:46] <mephestys> Is the drama meter back down to zero?
[03:46] <ActionPa1snip> mephestys: seems so :)
[03:46] <urlin2u> mephestys, it is always a party here.
[03:46]  * ActionPa1snip resumes normal service
[03:46] <Zuropazlefuf> and im rooted, i use root for daly basis,
[03:46] <Zuropazlefuf> and umm
[03:47] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: not wise at all
[03:47] <Zuropazlefuf> pulse audio is not avaiable in root session,. that what im trying to do, put sound to root gui...
[03:47] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: help me?
[03:47] <mephestys> I've rooted exactly 1 time heh
[03:47] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: the OS isn't made for desktop root login, nor is it smart if you like security
[03:47] <Zuropazlefuf> im a risk taker
[03:48] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: no, you don't understand your OS
[03:48]  * CyberDawg yawns
[03:48] <urlin2u> Zuropazlefuf, there are distros that run in root use one of them
[03:48] <mephestys> I've only just started using Ubuntu Linux as a primary OS on my laptop ^_^
[03:49] <ActionPa1snip> mephestys: sweet, hope you enjoy it :D
[03:49] <Zuropazlefuf> i do, just i love root, just, overcoming the restrictions, i think here i can put sound on root, workaround for this, pulseaudio --system, but it does not always work
[03:49] <Zuropazlefuf> and wow,
[03:49] <mephestys> ActionPa1snip, I have been so far, though I admit I'm not a fan of the Unity desktop
[03:49] <Zuropazlefuf> xscreensaver and gnome-screensaver works great on root
[03:49] <Telugodu> try gnome 3
[03:49] <Telugodu> its awesome
[03:49] <Datalink> Zuropazlefuf, just sudo when you need root...
[03:50] <Datalink> does anyone know where gstreamer0.10 keeps it's plugins?
[03:50] <Zuropazlefuf> for xscreensaver i needed to remove xhost acl
[03:50] <mephestys> Telugodu, I switched over to Gnome 3 after learning how to go about switching desktop environments ^_^
[03:50] <mephestys> Telugodu, now I'm working on my own theme as well
[03:50] <mephestys> <-- fast learner
[03:50] <evernoob> I tried to find a terminal in gnome3 - by the time I found it I had forgotten why I wanted it
[03:50] <Zuropazlefuf> and now it works great, hmmm, why screensaver preview is not showing as root with the daemon active?
[03:50]  * CyberDawg suspects evernoob is old too
[03:51] <urlin2u> !ot | Zuropazlefuf
[03:51] <Datalink> evernoob, accessories has a terminal
[03:51] <evernoob> start menu and cascading lists - what could be better?
[03:51] <Telugodu> Zuropazlefuf:haha
[03:51] <Zuropazlefuf> im just talkin, just, commenting iusses i got :(
[03:51] <evernoob> cascading lists with logical categories
[03:51] <Zuropazlefuf> Telugodu: wat lol?
[03:53] <Telugodu> Zuropazlefuf: I  too think the same about evernoob
[03:53] <mephestys> I do have a support-related question though: if I switch over to Compiz for window management, and manage to screw something up, am I going to be able to fix it by going into one of the classic desktops and switching back to Metacity, or will that also be trying to use Compiz
[03:53]  * Zuropazlefuf wants some help with some stuff, he's trying to remove main restrictions that root haves.. *
[03:53] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: so running web browsers and X servers as root is good. Why do you think ubuntu disables the account by default? Do you think you know better than the guys developing and coding Ubuntu?
[03:54] <Zuropazlefuf> no, and it haves root off because two things, no blank passwords and security iusse + and no, im a noob compared to the dev ppl
[03:54] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: ^
[03:55] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip....
[03:55] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: root doesn't have a blank password by default
[03:56] <Zuropazlefuf> it does, the system ask root pw when installation
[03:56] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip:
[03:56] <urlin2u> mephestys, what desktop are you using, unity uses compiz already.
[03:56] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: it doesn't, it asks for a username and password, not root
[03:56] <Datalink> Zuropazlefuf, sudo will ask for your password, you can disable that option, however running as root is pretty much putting your system and others at risk
[03:56] <stercor> BitPim reads phone data, puts it into a SQLite database, then crashes, taking the data with it.  I'm on 11.10.
[03:57] <stercor> 1.0.7 bitpim
[03:57] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: there is a difference
[03:57] <mephestys> urlin2u, Gnome 3
[03:57] <Zuropazlefuf> and also, why new users other than the first user ever, are not sudoers?
[03:57] <urlin2u> mephestys, gnome 3 uses mutter compiz wont work.
[03:57] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: not in ubuntu but in some other distro
[03:58] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: control, if a user is to be able to use sudo etc an admin must add them to the admins group
[03:58] <mephestys> urlin2u, Got it, thanks :)
[03:58] <Zuropazlefuf> and?
[03:58] <urlin2u> mephestys, cool, would be nice though.
[03:58] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: that's their choice. Ubuntu is setup as it is for security. More distros are starting to use sudo afaik
[03:58] <urlin2u> cough rootkit
[03:59] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: and that's why they aren't able to use sudo...
[03:59] <Zuropazlefuf> oh...
[03:59] <mephestys> urlin2u, I thought Gnome 3 used metacity as well, clearly that is not the case. Looks like mutter is going for the same minimal approach though
[04:00] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: unlike windows where everyone is an admin and everyone can do evertything.  I.e. apt-get purging ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-session, and re-installing?
[04:03] <Zuropazlefuf> because of the pain of typing sudo and gksu everywere + using root term
[04:03] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: after you setup the OS, its rare
[04:03] <urlin2u> lorddelta, the whole OS or the desktop, and which de?
[04:03] <lorddelta> Installed some updates, and pretty sure they broke whatever flimsy kdm to gnome-session thing I had going....
[04:04] <Zuropazlefuf> lorddelta: ubuntu-desktop is a metpackage, u got to format the whole disk or else to reset it
[04:04] <ActionPa1snip> lorddelta: if you log in to liveCD and rename all the hidden folders in your users home and log in, you will get vanilla settings for your user. Is that what you mean?
[04:04] <lorddelta> urlin2u: Euhm. Not the whole OS. I'm relatively comfortable at the cmdline, the only thing I'm not strong at is X11...
[04:05] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: ahh i always do root access on livecd xD
[04:05] <lorddelta> I just mean a desktop reset...
[04:05] <urlin2u> lorddelta, which desktop?
[04:05] <Zuropazlefuf> lorddelta: delete your home
[04:05] <lorddelta> I already have 5 or 6 desktops lying around...
[04:05] <lorddelta> Zuropzlefuf: No. XD
[04:05] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: depends what you are doing, taht s is temporary so   sudo -i   can be useful
[04:05] <kop> fighting bluetooth in 10.04 "Creating device failed: org.bluez.Error.ConnectionAttemptFailed: Page Timeout" look familiar ?
[04:05] <pangolin> Zuropazlefuf: stop giving bad advice or I will remove you
[04:05] <goddard> anyone else have a problem with the new kernel update?
[04:05] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: for me im in root need, :)
[04:06] <Zuropazlefuf> pangolin: im not giving bad advice!
[04:06] <ActionPa1snip> lorddelta: the method I gave will force the OS to make fresh configs
[04:06] <goddard> it wouldn't even load form e
[04:06] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: its not needed, you just sacrificed security for a mild convenience
[04:06] <pangolin> Zuropazlefuf: telling someone to delete their /home is not good advice
[04:06] <Zuropazlefuf> oh :(
[04:06] <pangolin> ActionPa1snip: please stop feeding
[04:07] <ActionPa1snip> pangolin: I'm done, s/he will have to learn the hard way :D
[04:07] <lorddelta> Well. Sorry to say but nobody's proposed a sensible solution (or explained why their's is a sensible one)
[04:07] <lorddelta> I'll go ahead with my desktop-purges, and see where that gets me.
[04:07] <lorddelta> I already had a half-zombie ubuntu/gnome/avant/compiz hack together that I was ok with.
[04:07] <ActionPa1snip> lorddelta: why isn't mine sensible?
[04:07] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: ik, just i get abit annyoned about kept ask for pw to do special master system stuff
[04:07] <lorddelta> I just realize its a far cry from what "official" 12.04 looks like.
[04:08] <Zuropazlefuf> lol
[04:08] <kop> 12.04 ? I'm still annoyed with 10.04
[04:08] <Zuropazlefuf> lol
[04:08] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: its rare once you get the OS setup. You want to learn the hard way that's fine. I can't tell you anymore. You still don't understand your OS
[04:08] <lorddelta> ActionPa1snip: renaming all the hidden folders in my home directory? Really? No. I've got other stuff that I want sittin' in there.
[04:09] <lorddelta> I'm not an idiot, I'm just not great with X.
[04:09] <ActionPa1snip> lorddelta: yes. note rename NOT DELETE
[04:09] <pangolin> lorddelta: what is the end goal you want to achieve?
[04:09] <ActionPa1snip> lorddelta: there is a difference
[04:09] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: i do :(  and yes is rare, it's like a personal needing
[04:09] <Zuropazlefuf> lorddelta: copy the config stuff
[04:09] <ActionPa1snip> lorddelta: you can rename stuff back you want to keep like email folders and such but the gconf / dconf will be defaulted
[04:09] <Zuropazlefuf> move*
[04:10] <Zuropazlefuf> lorddelta: u can just move from your /home the stuff that is not personal, config files, etc
[04:10] <kop> is bluetooth fundamentally broken in 10.04 ?
[04:10] <lorddelta> pangolin: gnome-session broke (I don't know why, I assuming its buried in log files somewhere, due to recent updates that probably have something to do with me using unofficial repos), just looking to clear out my "settings" for whatever gnome-stuff there currently is.
[04:10] <Zuropazlefuf> kop: idk
[04:10] <kop> fighting bluetooth in 10.04 "Creating device failed: org.bluez.Error.ConnectionAttemptFailed: Page Timeout" look familiar ?
[04:10] <ActionPa1snip> kop: never had an issue with it personally
[04:11] <lorddelta> Because I frankly don't care about it too much. As long as I can get a working copy and kill like half of it later (and run my own stuff)
[04:11] <ActionPa1snip> kop: tried a later release?
[04:11] <pangolin> lorddelta: in that case go with what ActionPa1snip suggested
[04:11] <Zuropazlefuf> lorddelta: maybe gnome3 problem in 11.04?
[04:12] <Zuropazlefuf> i ran i some kind of corrupt gnome because i had put gnome3 in it
[04:12] <kop> ActionPa1snip, a later release would break more than it fixed , thi isn't NetBSD ;-/
[04:12] <lorddelta> Zuropazlefuf: Nah, 11.10
[04:12] <Zuropazlefuf> kop: no, do fresh install, should work great
[04:12] <Zuropazlefuf> lorddelta: oh
[04:12] <Zuropazlefuf> lorddelta: maybe clean install fix?
[04:13] <ActionPa1snip> kop: later kernel may support what you have, better
[04:13] <Zuropazlefuf> because of all gnome 2 stuff that confict with gnome 3
[04:13] <kop> Zuropazlefuf, did on a spare drive , garbage
[04:13] <lorddelta> *sigh* pangolin, ActionPa1snip, thanks I'll try the deletion of the gconf, see what that does for me.
[04:13] <lorddelta> ~/.gconf, right?
[04:13] <ActionPa1snip> lorddelta: just rename, then you have a rolback path
[04:13] <kop> ActionPa1snip, later kernel drops oss suport
[04:13] <ActionPa1snip> kop: ahhhh
[04:13] <pangolin> don't delete, rename them to whatever.bak
[04:14] <Zuropazlefuf> lorddelta: yes, .dconfig, and config/gconf
[04:14] <ActionPa1snip> kop: let me see what I can find?
[04:14] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: can you still help me remove some of the root barriers?
[04:14] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: or are you done?
[04:15] <ActionPa1snip> kop: is you run:  sudo service bluetooth restart      does it help
[04:15] <Hetep> hola, am actually attempting to configure a webpage from home. is a person able to assist?
[04:15] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: no I can't the OS isn't designed for taht
[04:15] <kop> ActionPa1snip, it isn't that I am a total PussAwful hater (I am ) It just kills all my HDware and half my apps
[04:16] <urlin2u> Hetep, this is ubuntu support, you might try ##linux
[04:16] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: i don't care, is not designed but it can handle this
[04:16] <kop> ActionPa1snip, not even a reboot after the guide in ubuntu helps
[04:16] <ActionPa1snip> kop: gota use what works dude, lucid is supported for a good while stil :)
[04:16] <cipher__> Has anyone else had issues with the menu-bar in gnome not disappearing when it's toggled to not show? Apparently it's bug 874344, and I am curious if anyone found a work around, it's really annoying.
[04:16] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: maybe but I don't know how to do it as I don't log in as root and neither should you
[04:17] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: the folks in #backtrack-linux log in as root, maybe they can help
[04:17] <ActionPa1snip> kop: does restarting the bluetooth service make it ok?
[04:17] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip:  but, ubuntu desktop?
[04:18] <mister_m> how do I add a .desktop entry for a .sh file
[04:18] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: no idea
[04:18] <boom2pow> hi, anyone here can help me what is best, 10.04LTS or 11.10?
[04:19] <kop> ActionPa1snip, actually OS can't decide if it's an upstart job or still in init.d :-/  depends on the app and mood
[04:19] <ActionPa1snip> mister_m: http://paste.ubuntu.com/812654/  is an example .desktop file, just change the lines to run what you want and name as you wish
[04:19] <ActionPa1snip> kop: haha, try both ways then ;)
[04:20] <ActionPa1snip> kop: found this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=189550b02b216831802ee820887564eb&t=1788714
[04:20] <kop> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[04:20] <rikkimaru> my apt-get install fails and says a "pre-installation script returned error exit status 1". how do I figure out what script the error was actually from?
[04:20] <mister_m> ActionPa1snip: I have something similar but I get an error from the program that I am trying to make the file for, and I don't get one if I invoke the .sh from where I exctracted it to
[04:20] <robbie> hey all
[04:20] <ActionPa1snip> mister_m: in the exec= line, use the absolute path
[04:20] <ActionPa1snip> hi robbie
[04:21] <urlin2u> !best > boom2pow
[04:21] <mister_m> ActionPa1snip: I do
[04:22] <ActionPa1snip> mister_m: be sure the script file is marked as executable and has the top line:  #!/bin/bash
[04:22] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/919895 lightdm bug i got about sessions
[04:22] <ActionPa1snip> mister_m: the file extension means very little ;)
[04:22] <lehthanis> well...I have a few questions...been changin around...I went from Ubuntu Studio to Linux Mint, and now I'm on regular Ubuntu 11.10.
[04:22] <lehthanis> can someone help me figure out why my broadcom wifi isn't working?
[04:22] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: if you log in as your user, not root. Is it ok?
[04:22] <Hetep-AFK> why does ubuntu suggest * 435 ReshAyin ##linux Cannot change nickname while banned on channel
[04:22] <ActionPa1snip> !broadcom | leth
[04:23] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: it does not matter, hold on
[04:23] <ActionPa1snip> Hetep-AFK: I'd ask in #freenode
[04:23] <nRy> Can someone help me find a list of Ubuntu AMI's on EC2?
[04:23] <goddard> it wouldn't even load form e
[04:23] <goddard> anyone else have a problem with the new kernel update?
[04:23] <goddard> it wouldn't even load for me
[04:23] <nRy> I am trying to build an instance with GPU to run on Amazon
[04:23] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: it may do, the OS is designed to not log ni as root remember
[04:23] <kop> ActionPa1snip, food for more frustration I'm sure I'm out and thrashing on the CF-29 brick (toughbook)
[04:23] <lehthanis> ActionPalsnip that's the page I was looking for, lol
[04:23] <maZed_> does ubuntu have a theme manager?
[04:23] <[deXter]> Hetep-AFK, You will have to identify the nickname first before trying to join the channel.
[04:24] <rcmaehl> Houston I have a major freaking problem! When ever I try to execute clear via script or terminal I get: bash: /usr/bin/clear: cannot execute binary file
[04:24] <rcmaehl> This should NOT happen
[04:24] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: it takes loong, lemme see wat it loads
[04:24] <Hetep-AFK> identify format is again?
[04:25] <ActionPa1snip> rcmaehl: do you have execute access as the user yu are running it as?
[04:25] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: tada, it's able to run gnome-shell :(
[04:25] <rcmaehl> ActionPa1snip: I should I mean clear should have access for all usrs
[04:25] <Zuropazlefuf> is a root only iusse then
[04:25] <ActionPa1snip> rcmaehl: what username is running the script?
[04:25] <rcmaehl> ActionPa1snip: it happens even outside of scripts
[04:25] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, Hi. Have you had any border issues, I have my gtk theme set to something else, I changed the gnome theme too (they are both dark themes), and yet I am getting this default look. As shown in screenshot 1. Then whenever nautilus opens (this may be correct behavior) it hijacks the desktop. (1) http://i40.tinypic.com/2eksuns.png (2) http://i40.tinypic.com/e8q137.png
[04:25] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: remember all that stuff I said now...
[04:25] <rcmaehl> ActionPa1snip: from pure terminal
[04:26] <rcmaehl> ActionPa1snip: and tty
[04:26] <rikkimaru> can anyone tell me how to investigate this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/812657/ ?
[04:26] <ActionPa1snip> rcmaehl: what is the output of:  ls -l `which clear`
[04:27] <rcmaehl> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5504 2011-09-16 15:29 /usr/bin/clear
[04:27] <rcmaehl> ActionPa1snip: ^
[04:28] <United7> guys..how to check if there are updates for installed programs in Ubuntu ? Is there any update section , like Android market, which shows update list in one place ?
[04:28] <ActionPa1snip> rcmaehl: looks ok, same here
[04:28] <rcmaehl> United7: ubuntu version?
[04:28] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: I use LXDE, so I don't use the compiz / uinty, so no, never had an issue
[04:28] <obiexo> hey guys anyone familiar with setting up a ftp to access my laptop while im at work?
[04:28] <urlin2u> United7, update manager
[04:28] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, ok
[04:29] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: hey, how do i put java into system?
[04:29] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, I take it you don't have any suggestions?
[04:29] <rcmaehl> cipher__: you have to set nautilus to open with --no-desktop
[04:29] <cipher__> ok
[04:29] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip
[04:29] <cipher__>  thanks
[04:31] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: I have a script to install java 32bit. omgubuntu have a ppa made too
[04:31] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: you don't have to address me twice you know
[04:31] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: my buffer for text is several thousand lines..
[04:31] <rikkimaru> where does aptitude download packages to?
[04:32] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: try a differnet theme maybe..
[04:32] <cipher__> I have tried a lot :p
[04:32] <ActionPa1snip> rikkimaru: same place as apt-get  /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:32] <rikkimaru> ActionPa1snip, thank you :D
[04:33] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: ok, how i can copy the menu settings from another user?
[04:34] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: i just dloaded and extracted the java, and now?
[04:34] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: do you use 32bit ubuntu?
[04:34] <Zuropazlefuf> yes
[04:34] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: gimme a sec, I'll pastebin my script
[04:35] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/812663/
[04:35] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: it installs the plugin for chromium but just change the place for the plugin to go in the script and it will be where you want
[04:36] <chaosito714> ?
[04:36] <chaosito714> ?
[04:36] <Zuropazlefuf> is for FF
[04:36] <cipher__> So the window borders will change according to the theme, but nothing else. Though oddly xchat and a couple other programs fully conform.
[04:36] <Zuropazlefuf> the plugin
[04:36] <Zuropazlefuf> ??
[04:37] <cipher__> Like libreoffice ActionPa1snip
[04:37] <maZed_> where is the theme changer? in apperance i see where it says theme with drop down with 4 options, but how do i add to it?
[04:37] <HackNewton> i have recently tried to switch over kubuntu it doesnt digest me so i switch back to unity but now problem is that my booting screen is still showing kubuntu bootup style
[04:37] <HackNewton>  any one have solution ?
[04:37] <Zuropazlefuf> do rpm work in ubuntu?
[04:38] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: yes, the whatever.so is the plugin for your browser...
[04:38] <Zuropazlefuf> i mean,
[04:38] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: you can use alien, but try and find debs
[04:38] <rikkimaru> when I run dpkg --configure, where are the scripts that it runs for a package?
[04:39] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: help me find .deb of java 6u30?
[04:39] <Zuropazlefuf> linux-1586
[04:39] <Zuropazlefuf> i
[04:39] <extor> Is anyone familiar with xvnc on ubuntu and would you also know whether this binary Xvnc is no longer provided? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/Xvnc4.1.html
[04:40] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: can this help? http://java.com/en/download/help/linux_install.xml
[04:40] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip , sorry I promise to stop highlighting you. but is it possible most programs are running as root? Because I just started Synaptic PM and it claimed it couldn't attain root, and it has the correct theme?
[04:40] <cipher__> And that is the "root" theme
[04:40] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: same process, just a differnet file and paths
[04:41] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: synaptic needs root as you are applying changes outside home, it needs admin priveledges.
[04:41] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: ah, Revert button...
[04:41] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: how did you apply the theme
[04:41] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, I understand stand that :p
[04:41] <urlin2u> HackNewton, take a look at playing around read carefully,. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[04:41] <cipher__> gtk-chtheme
[04:42] <cipher__> and I also used a gnome tool
[04:42] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: did you run it with gksudo or sudo?
[04:42] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: umm, help, Revert reverted nothing :(
[04:42] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: revert what?
[04:42] <cipher__> maybe.
[04:42] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: think about it ;)
[04:42] <Zuropazlefuf> the delete i made :(
[04:42] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: restore from backups..
[04:43] <developernotes> I am using an Apple aluminum keyboard with Ubuntu 11.10, does anyone know of a way to swap the alt key and the command key?
[04:43] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: got none
[04:43] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, I tried it with both root and "normal" user, it didn't change anything.
[04:43] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: what if your drive motor fails, where is your data>
[04:43] <Mahn> Greets folks. I've got a ubuntu server running 11.10 (x64) that i've suddenly lost ssh access to. any tips?
[04:43] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: if you run stuff with sudo and gksudo it will change root's profile.
[04:44] <cipher__> Yeah I got that :p
[04:44] <cipher__> I understand, I have been programming on linux for years. It's just I understand bsdsockets better than I do window managers :p
[04:44] <cipher__> and by years a mean year*
[04:44] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: tried a reboot. Could be the ticket
[04:46] <Mahn> My webserver still delivers my sites, so the box is live, but ssh refuses my connections.
[04:46] <Mahn> I was in the CLI last night, and after I ran a soft restart, i got locked out
[04:46] <United7> sorry for the late reply..I am using 11.10
[04:46] <United7> So..the update manager detects the programs I installed in my system and update it ?
[04:47] <Mahn> Yes, united7. The manager tracks updates to your programs in dkpg and delivers you messages based on updates
[04:48] <rcmaehl> Is anyone running 32-bit ubuntu?
[04:48] <Mahn> I suspect my server is returning to safe mode, as even hard boots do not rectify the problem
[04:48] <Mahn> rcmaehl: why architecture dependent question?
[04:48] <rcmaehl> I need a new copy of /usr/bin/clear
[04:49] <rcmaehl> without REINSTALLING the ENTIRE OS
[04:49] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: there's rpm here?
[04:49] <ActionPa1snip> !rpm | Zuropazlefuf
[04:49] <Zuropazlefuf> rcmaehl: maybe send to you?
[04:49] <rcmaehl> Zuropazlefuf: what?
[04:49] <Zuropazlefuf> :O, and i have unckeched unsupported
[04:50] <Zuropazlefuf> rcmaehl: hmm, why not mail the file or else?
[04:50] <ActionPa1snip> rcmaehl: if you reinstall ncurses-bin it will reinstate the clear binary
[04:50] <Zuropazlefuf> is 11.10 version?
[04:50] <raclinux> bom dia galera
[04:50] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: so what i can do without installing alien?
[04:50] <Mahn> good evening raclinux
[04:51] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: use the compressed file
[04:51] <Zuropazlefuf> hmm?
[04:51] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: omgubuntu specified a PPA a while back too, not sure if it's still around
[04:51] <Zuropazlefuf> i got two things, an rpm, and an extracted tar
[04:51] <raclinux> tem alguem na sala que saiba usar bem o DeVeDe?
[04:51] <Zuropazlefuf> well, is a java diir
[04:51] <Mahn> !en raclinux
[04:51] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: the script I gave is basically what you need, just change the paths and file names
[04:52] <Zuropazlefuf> and wat about the wget
[04:52] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: the process is identical
[04:52] <Zuropazlefuf> i do not need the get
[04:52] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: thinnk about it
[04:52] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: exactly
[04:52] <cipher__> didn't do the trick ActionPa1snip
[04:52] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: you already have the file, so why would you need wget?
[04:53] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: im just a bit blind on script, i have already a dir
[04:53] <ActionPa1snip> cipher__: bah :(
[04:53] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: edit it to point FF?
[04:53] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: just copy the lines to the terminal and change them as you are using a different file which will make a different folder
[04:53] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: i the last few lines, yes
[04:53] <lorddelta> ActionPa1snip: sorry, been awhile, only was supposed to rename .gconf and .config, yes? I did try that, didn't work, yay my problems go deeper X_X (unless I missed something). Yay, time to learn how my X/KDM works (properly)
[04:54] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: you can run them manually if you copy and paste then to terminal, you can verify stuff then run the comamnd
[04:54] <lorddelta> At least openbox/kubuntu work.
[04:55] <Zuropazlefuf> ActionPa1snip: i don't understand very well the install...
[04:56] <Zuropazlefuf> line 10
[04:56] <obiexo> does anyone know how to setup a ftp server and access folders/fies remotly?
[04:57] <rcmaehl> ActionPa1snip: Is there a way to ignore package dependancies? For some reason a few packages aren't showing correctly which won't let me reinstall ncurses-bin
[04:57] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: change the path for the one you make, yours will be different as you are using a different java
[04:58] <Mahn> obiexo: look into vsftpd
[04:58] <ActionPa1snip> rcmaehl: use the --no-deps option on apt-get (if memory serves), read:  man apt-get
[04:59] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: so if you have the java folder:  jreaaa    then you'd copy the jreaaa folder to /usr/lib/jvm  and the command would be: sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/lib/jvm/jreaaa/bin/java 81
[04:59] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: its literally that simple
[04:59] <pp7> why has my sound disappeared after last update?
[05:00] <ActionPa1snip> pp7: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    wait a few seconds, then try sound things
[05:00] <pp7> ok
[05:00] <BrettD88> Hello.
[05:01] <Mahn> hey Brettd88
[05:01] <BrettD88> Hello, Mahn.
[05:01] <Mahn> what's crackin
[05:01] <BrettD88> Boy am I stuck.
[05:01] <Mahn> what's up?
[05:01] <ActionPa1snip> BrettD88: ask away :)
[05:01] <pp7> ActionPa1snip: worked a treat!! :)
[05:01] <Mahn> awesome pp7
[05:02] <pp7> :)
[05:02] <ActionPa1snip> pp7: defaulted the sound settings. The file and folder you deleted hold sound settings. You now have vanilla settings
[05:02] <BrettD88> Dual boot Win7 and Ubuntu 11.10.  Install on Ubuntu seemed to go ok.
[05:02] <pp7> yea
[05:02] <Mahn> mhm
[05:02] <pp7> ActionPa1snip: but why did the update screw it up?
[05:03] <Mahn> pp7: the update didn't recognize your settings likely
[05:03] <BrettD88> Can't get ubuntu to boot up.  I know it has something to do with the IA-64 architecture of this 64 bit Intel
[05:03] <Mahn> brettd88: what errors do you see?
[05:03] <BrettD88> Mahn: None.
[05:03] <rcmaehl> ActionPa1snip: thank you unbiased god
[05:03] <Mahn> do you get grub, even?
[05:03] <ActionPa1snip> pp7: maybe the old settings for a new alsa made it break
[05:03] <BrettD88> Just goes ahead and boots straight into win
[05:04] <ActionPa1snip> rcmaehl: :)
[05:04] <pp7> ActionPa1snip: mm yea
[05:04] <BrettD88> Mahn: No Grub
[05:04] <Mahn> brettd88: did you install of disk/usb?
[05:04] <ActionPa1snip> BrettD88: boot to ubuntu liveCD and use this: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video/
[05:04] <ActionPa1snip> BrettD88:  you can install Grub to the MBR
[05:04] <Mahn> action is faster with the bookmarks lol
[05:05] <BrettD88> This architecture uses a separate EFI partition for booting.
[05:05] <ActionPa1snip> Mahn: I only find guides others can find easily
[05:05] <BrettD88> I'm sure I just don't understand it well enough.
[05:05] <Mahn> +1 actionpa1snip
[05:05] <Mahn> brettd88: just but grub on sda, it'll launch first
[05:06] <Mahn> grub has ossniffer module which will find your windows
[05:07] <Mahn> action, u know how I could restore sshd?
[05:07] <Mahn> or at least figure out why my box keeps going into safe mode?
[05:09] <BrettD88> Anyone here an EFI master? ;)
[05:09] <United7> How to make a VLC player as a default player in Ubuntu ?
[05:09] <United7> for videos
[05:09] <Mahn> united7: right click the file and under properties you can set it
[05:09] <BrettD88> Mahn: Thanks for helping.
[05:09] <Mahn> brettd88: np mate
[05:09] <Mahn> just make sure grub gets loaded first, and it'll handle the rest
[05:09] <United7> Thanks..but I believe I have seen one section where I can select default programs for other formats in one page
[05:09] <ActionPa1snip> United7: which release?
[05:10] <United7> 11.100
[05:10] <United7> 11.10 sorry
[05:10] <Zuropazlefuf> United7: system info
[05:10] <United7> ok
[05:10] <Zuropazlefuf> inside
[05:10] <United7> let me check
[05:10] <FloodBot1> United7: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:10] <ActionPa1snip> United7: in dash search for: system settings    its in there
[05:10] <BrettD88> ActionPalsnip: Thanks for helping.
[05:10] <United7> ok
[05:10] <United7> thanks
[05:10] <ActionPa1snip> info
[05:10] <Zuropazlefuf> think he already kenw where
[05:10] <Zuropazlefuf> knew
[05:10] <BrettD88> ActionPa1snip: Thanks for helping.
[05:11] <Zuropazlefuf> lol
[05:11] <Zuropazlefuf> BrettD88: he already knows
[05:11] <Mahn> zuro: u any good with servers?
[05:11] <kop> ActionPa1snip, still here
[05:12] <Mahn> what's up kop?
[05:12] <kop> /usr/share/doc/bluez/examples$ sudo ./simple-agent hci0 00:15:83:15:A3:10
[05:12] <kop> Creating device failed: org.bluez.Error.ConnectionAttemptFailed: Page Timeout
[05:13] <Mahn> i don't know of that command, but it seems the server you're trying to connect to isn't live
[05:13] <kop> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[05:14] <Mahn> you're still running 10.04?
[05:14] <Mahn> oh i see, nvm.
[05:14] <kop> well if I get it right it's ./configure , 'pile or just synaptic the packages
[05:14] <lehthanis> I'm running 11.10, fresh install, nothing changed...what kind of themes do I need to look for?
[05:14] <lehthanis> Unity?  Gnome?  GTK?
[05:14] <Mahn> lethanis gnome
[05:15] <lehthanis> gnome-shell?
[05:15] <Mahn> mhm
[05:15] <witeds> greetings
[05:15] <Mahn> sup witeds
[05:15] <lehthanis> will that also change the window colors?
[05:15] <kop> Mahn, don't go there , past 10.04 this lappy is wildly unstable and unsupported
[05:15] <Mahn> i don't hate, kop. i still run 10.10 studio on my comp
[05:15] <witeds> i need some help i have a server and i set it up with the tty1 auto login configuration but i also need it to launch a program after it dose
[05:15] <JavaNunes> oi
[05:16] <Mahn> lethanis: the shell theme is responsible for window decorations
[05:16] <witeds> if i put the script in the ~.bashrc at the bottom of the document it launches and dubble launches if i login through ssh
[05:16] <Mahn> excuse me, there is window theme as well
[05:16] <witeds> i dont want that
[05:17] <lehthanis> ok...I ask because in Linux Mint, I had to do gnome-shell themes for the top and bottom bar...and then GTK 3.2 themes for the windows.
[05:17] <Mahn> put auto-start scripts in init.d
[05:17] <lehthanis> I don't have to worry about that in 11.10?
[05:17] <Mahn> gnome 3 for mint12 has a separate window theme drop-down
[05:17] <witeds> its a java server for a game and launching in a detached screen
[05:17] <ActionPa1snip> witeds: if you add it in /etc/rc.local it will run as root just before the login prompt, you can use su -c   to run it as a different user if needed
[05:18] <lehthanis> so if I go to gnome-look.org the themes I'm looking for are all going to be under what category?
[05:18] <lehthanis> Gnome Shell?
[05:18] <witeds> ok so su as in sudo or just su itself
[05:19] <Mahn> lethanis: gtk3 theme/style
[05:19] <sec_> sud
[05:19] <sec_> o
[05:20] <ActionPa1snip> witeds: you can add: su --command="command here" username
[05:20] <lehthanis> so what is unity?
[05:20] <Mahn> lethanis: for netbooks lol
[05:20] <ActionPa1snip> witeds: if it needs running as root, just add the commad, add an ampersand to the end of the line so it is backgrounded too
[05:20] <ActionPa1snip> lehthanis: its a shell for gnome
[05:21] <lorddelta> *deep breath* removing gnome...resolving to go with xfce4/open-box, i.e. something more stable/lightweight.
[05:21] <witeds> it is not advised to run as root
[05:21] <lorddelta> (and gconf2)
[05:21] <Mahn> Action: i'm about to re-image my server. could you think of any way to resolve ssh connections being refused?
[05:21] <witeds> i will play around with this thanks for the info it will help alot
[05:22] <lehthanis> I'm asking all these questions because every time I've tried a linux distro thus far, when I download themes, they only theme a portion, not everything...so I'm tryign to make sure I download themes that will change everything
[05:22] <ActionPa1snip> Mahn: can clients ping the server? Is there a firewall configured etc? Are there certain accounts which cannot connect
[05:22] <ActionPa1snip> Mahn: is the ssh service running? are you connecting to the right port specified in sshd_config
[05:23] <Mahn> Action: the webserver still delivers. IPTables / sshkeys are all clear, no accounts under no ips nor domains will be accepted
[05:23] <lehthanis> so for Ubuntu 11.10 right after installing from the cd, all I need to theme is the GTK 3.x themes?
[05:23] <Mahn> Action: I was in the box, after a soft restart this happened
[05:23] <ActionPa1snip> Mahn: check all that stuff dude
[05:23] <witeds> it worked
[05:23] <witeds> thakns
[05:23] <witeds> thanks*
[05:23] <Mahn> I have a feeling it's returning to safe mode, and have hard booted it half a dozen times
[05:24] <Mahn> Only access I have is when i run the network rescue kernel
[05:24] <Mahn> pings return, webserver delivers, everything seems kosher except it will not accept ssh connections
[05:24] <Mahn> have gone through all the ssh_keys, and there's nothing i can find that will keep me out
[05:24] <Mahn> I'm not in my own IPtable
[05:25] <Guest7671> lol
[05:25] <lehthanis> Is 11.10 running Gnome 3.2?
[05:26] <Mahn> action: i've set ssh_config to different ports, and all ports, ssh still refused
[05:26] <cipher__> ActionPa1snip, I have to say 11.10 sort of sucks. They are trying to make it too user friendly, to the point they lock you out of your own system.
[05:26] <cipher__> 7.04-10 was great
[05:27] <web4free> how to cancel the messages that someone join channel or someone out of chatroom ?
[05:27] <Mahn> web4free: which client are you using?
[05:27] <skilz_> web4free: That's in your IRC client settings.
[05:27] <web4free> pindig
[05:27] <kop> okay this suxors I can't even get a supposedly plug and play dongle to be recognized
[05:28] <web4free> thanks,,,
[05:28] <Mahn> lethanis: apt-cache show gnome-shell | grep Version
[05:28] <cipher__> Do you think I will experience many issues if i remove unity?
[05:28] <web4free>  I will check out
[05:28] <Mahn> cipher__: unity is terrible, IMO
[05:28] <cipher__> ^^
[05:28] <cipher__> It sucks.
[05:28] <cipher__> IM not-to HO
[05:28] <Mahn> either backtrack to 10.10 like i have, or jump to 11.10 for gnome 3
[05:28] <cipher__> no-so*
[05:29] <Zuropazlefuf> lehthanis: unsure
[05:29] <Mahn> mint12 is running 3.2
[05:29] <cipher__> brb, removing unity
[05:30] <kop> unity and PA belong in that special hell that contains SCO , WinMe , Vista and the easter bunny
[05:30] <Mahn> kop: lol
[05:31] <Zuropazlefuf> hmm
[05:31] <ActionPa1snip> Just use LXDE and you got no worries :)
[05:31] <Zuropazlefuf> if i have gnome-shell
[05:31] <Zuropazlefuf> is safe to remove unity!?
[05:31] <Mahn> sure zuro
[05:31] <Braden`> Hello
[05:31] <kop> ActionPa1snip, default 10pt fonts ...
[05:32] <Mahn> hello braden`
[05:32] <Braden`> If I do:   ls -l /dev/pts    there are zero files
[05:32] <Zuropazlefuf> wat packages belong to unity gui?
[05:32] <Braden`> How do I enable ptys?
[05:32] <ActionPa1snip> kop: I've changed the font rendering to LCD and a went size larger.
[05:33] <ActionPa1snip> Zuropazlefuf: cipher__ will be able to tell you if s/he comes back
[05:33] <kop> ActionPa1snip, the main menu fonts are still 1/64" high on a 42" lcd ...
[05:34] <ActionPa1snip> kop: if you set the default menu larger is it not honoured?
[05:35] <ActionPa1snip> kop: I use desktop icons and xbmc on my media system. I installed LXDE as it consumes fewer resources to sit in the background
[05:37] <ActionPa1snip> kop: could set a lower DPI and it shuold be easier to read
[05:37] <kop> 1/64" high on a 42" lcd ...
[05:38] <kop> ActionPa1snip, you can't draw that thin a LINE with a oo rapidograph
[05:39] <kop> I can't read 10pt on this screen ... (1024x768)
[05:39] <kop> wtf was lxde-dev thinking
[05:41] <Braden`> If I do:   ls -l /dev/pts    there are zero files.  How do I enable ptys?
[05:41] <bassgoon> so I just installed 11.10 from a usb drive on my laptop. I have 2 hard drives. One with win 7, and the other was unformatted. I selected "install alongside windows 7" as the install option and it installed on the empty hard drive. Now when I boot it only goes to windows, and if I try to force it to boot from the other hdd it says no OS. The 2nd hdd has a grub partition with only the grub_bios flag. No idea how to make it boot into ubuntu
[05:42] <Darksyns> something went wrong when it asked you to install grub
[05:42] <Darksyns> installed on another drive
[05:42] <ActionPa1snip> kop: never had an issue on my geforce 6150LE
[05:42] <Tux> Ugh, can't seem to get security.ubuntu.com to work
[05:43] <bassgoon> Darksyns, I don't recall it asking to install grub
[05:43] <artichoku> sup sup
[05:43] <Darksyns> how large is your windows partition?
[05:43] <bassgoon> 300gb
[05:44] <bassgoon> the other disc is 100
[05:44] <Darksyns> use virtual manager in windows to shrink your windows partition to maybe 270..
[05:44] <Darksyns> and then reinstall ubuntu.. putting root on the parition u shrank
[05:45] <Darksyns> format the drive it installed it to
[05:45] <Darksyns> there are other ways but.. will take a while
[05:45] <bassgoon> hmm ok
[05:45] <Darksyns> this is easiest and cleanest
[05:45] <bassgoon> i can handle reinstalling
[05:45] <sec_> any free ubuntu shell around?
[05:45] <bassgoon> so will i have to manually set up file systems?
[05:45] <Darksyns> yes..
[05:46] <Darksyns> that will be better
[05:46] <bassgoon> yeah
[05:46] <bassgoon> what would be good ones for the 100g disc.../home?
[05:46] <newbie|2> u could use super grub disk to boot into ubuntu
[05:47] <Darksyns> that depends on how much you plan on using ubuntu
[05:47] <newbie|2> then isue the command update grub
[05:47] <newbie|2> issue
[05:47] <bassgoon> Darksyns, very rarely
[05:47] <newbie|2> as root
[05:47] <bassgoon> and...it's my work computer...and I'd rather not mess with the windows disk :D
[05:47] <Darksyns> I've been fine with 40gigs before
[05:48] <Darksyns> just make sure / has sufficient space
[05:48] <bassgoon> yeah
[05:48] <bassgoon> newbie|2, i'll give that a try first maybe
[05:49] <martillon_> hello
[05:49] <newbie|2> either way you are going to have to install grub to the windows drive unless you use supergrub disk all the time
[05:49] <Darksyns> yes
[05:49] <kn100-resol> I get the wrong resolution under ubuntu using nvidia propietory drivers. I have an edid readout of my monitor. How do I set this? Something to do with modelines?
[05:50] <martillon_> help whit ssltrip
[05:50] <ActionPa1snip> bassgoon: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video/   will let you boot to liveCD and install grub to the MBR (assuming you didn't use wubi)
[05:51] <newbie|2> thats the dvd only
[05:52] <codega> Uhh can anybody help me. I think I broke my update manger.
[05:52] <ActionPa1snip> newbie|2: its the live environment
[05:53] <ActionPa1snip> newbie|2: its the DVD/CD or DVD. all of them can chroot
[05:53] <ActionPa1snip> codega: can you give a pastebin of:  sudo apt-get update       Thanks
[05:53] <Glacia> if i instal ubuntu as a live usb can I install programs and files and it will still be there each time i load it up no matter what computer i plug into? provided that the usb is big enough? or should/can I install it to the usb drive as if i am installing onto a n internal hdd
[05:53] <codega> thank you
[05:54] <ActionPa1snip> !paste | codega
[05:54] <newbie|2> Yea, but the DVD has a rescue mode that does if for you.
[05:54] <ActionPa1snip> newbie|2: maybe bt they ALL can do what that guide says
[05:54] <ActionPa1snip> newbie|2: bearing in mnd most people will grab the CD ISO
[05:54] <artichoku> oooo i gotta +v
[05:55] <sec_> any free ubuntu shell around?
[05:55] <bassgoon> hmm, can I use super grub disk from a usb drive?
[05:55] <artichoku> sec_
[05:55] <ActionPa1snip> sec_: Ubuntu comes with many shells. Bash is default installed
[05:55] <Glacia> ActionPa1snip, any thoughts?
[05:56] <artichoku> are you looking for a shell account sec_
[05:56] <sec_> right artichoku
[05:56] <newbie|2> bassgoon: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[05:56] <artichoku> check out sdf.org
[05:56] <ActionPa1snip> Glacia: there is a persistence you can add with usb-creator
[05:56] <sec_> x64 prefer
[05:56] <artichoku> that's what i like to use
[05:56] <artichoku> it's ssh
[05:56] <bassgoon> newbie|2, oh I'm seeing a bunch of pita instructions to make it bootable from usb
[05:56] <bassgoon> yay
[05:56] <artichoku> it also has bash and some other stuff
[05:56] <pangolin> Glacia: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[05:57] <Glacia> ah ty pangolin
[05:57] <sec_> artichoku: x64 ? and its ubuntu,?
[05:57] <ActionPa1snip> sec_: your bash wil be 64bit if you install 64bit ubuntu
[05:57] <ActionPa1snip> sec_: are you sure you mean 'shell'?
[05:58] <artichoku> well it's technically a deb server
[05:58] <artichoku> but that's almost ubuntu
[05:58] <sec_> cool,
[05:58] <ActionPa1snip> sec_: what is your goal?
[05:58] <artichoku> oh and MuD's ftw!
[05:59] <sec_> artichoku: can to compile my own android ..
[05:59] <bassgoon> can you update the packages when you're running from a usb drive?
[05:59] <ActionPa1snip> bassgoon: sure
[05:59] <Glacia> pangolin, ActionPa1snip, will persistance work on 10.04 LTS
[05:59] <artichoku> sec_: er.... i don't t think ssh is what you're looking for mate
[05:59] <sec_> artichoku: build android fr source
[05:59] <ActionPa1snip> Glacia: no idea, I don't use it except to install
[05:59] <bassgoon> ActionPa1snip, well last time I did it I got a prompt for username and password next time I booted up
[05:59] <codega> okay it's working fine now thank you again
[05:59] <pangolin> Glacia: yes
[06:00] <sec_> ActionPa1snip: *
[06:00] <artichoku> sec_:  go check out rootzwiki.com
[06:00] <artichoku> if you're looking to mess with android
[06:00] <artichoku> lots of source code and helpful tutorials
[06:00] <Glacia> pangolin, and last noobish question: does the live usb pendrive program linked on the ubuntu.com site have the persistance option
[06:01] <ActionPa1snip> sec_: you can compile android ni Ubuntu
[06:01] <acidfrost> I'm having trouble with my wifi card is there a log i can check to get information as to why it doesn't show up with ifconfig ? and why ifconfig wlan0 up sometimes says input/output error ?
[06:01] <ActionPa1snip> Glacia: the persistence is defined when you use usb-creator
[06:01] <sec_> ActionPa1snip: yes, so i need x64 ubuntu
[06:01] <Glacia> so it is built in ok
[06:02] <ActionPa1snip> acidfrost: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network      you will see the chip and can websearch for guides
[06:02] <ActionPa1snip> sec_: if you want, yes
[06:02] <pangolin> Glacia: the instructions in the link i gave you will guide you to exactly what you want.
[06:02] <ActionPa1snip> Glacia: not in the ISO, its managed by the app you make the USB with
[06:02] <Glacia> for 10.04 lts to? i saw it talking about 8.04 and 9.04
[06:03] <newbie|2> bassgoon: Yes you can update if you installed a casper-RW filesys on the usb
[06:03] <pangolin> Glacia: the instruction are a tad old but yes.
[06:03] <acidfrost> ActionPa1snip, i know what card it is and it works occasionally but sometimes it will disappear(not register) and when this happens no usb wifi cards work
[06:03] <artichoku> if you're compiling from source, can't u be on an x86 system and still compile 64bit?
[06:03] <artichoku> acidfrost: what wifi card are you using?
[06:03] <acidfrost> atheros AR5001
[06:03] <artichoku> hrm...
[06:03] <bassgoon> newbie|2, 4gb, but I still don't know why it asked me for a username /password after install
[06:03] <artichoku> mine is b45