[00:00] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2637_video&num=1
[00:00] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: its amazing
[00:02] <poyntz> phoenix_firebrd: nothing changed :S
[00:03] <phoenix_firebrd> poyntz: you are seeing the text bootscreen ?
[00:04] <poyntz> phoenix_firebrd: dont thing so
[00:04] <poyntz> *think
[00:04] <phoenix_firebrd> poyntz: i am not getting what you mean
[00:04] <moetunes> phoenix_firebrd:  that looks sweet
[00:05] <poyntz> phoenix_firebrd: didn't notice any changes to the bootscreen
[00:05] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: ya
[00:05] <poyntz> phoenix_firebrd: but i'm not using the default boot screen either..
[00:05] <phoenix_firebrd> poyntz: the name "kubuntu 10.10" is in plain text right?
[00:07] <phoenix_firebrd> poyntz: are you able to see this image while booting ?http://lh5.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/S674wo8YvxI/AAAAAAAAArw/rhBkbvUSMWo/plasma-desktopfs1523-jpg.jpg
[00:08] <phoenix_firebrd> poyntz: are you there?
[00:23] <webinator> does anybody know how to set up swat
[00:24] <phoenix_firebrd> webinator: game?
[00:25] <webinator> samba
[00:25] <phoenix_firebrd> webinator: noidea
[00:25] <dee> dj
[00:25] <dee> goa
[00:26] <dee> gah*
[00:26] <webinator> i have a book on ubuntu and i dont have all the options that the book has a the swat server
[00:27] <moetunes> !info swat
[00:27] <moetunes> !swat
[00:27] <moetunes> webinator:  some reading ^^
[00:29] <Roxy_> is someone in this channel  named djustice? im not able to see it i think...
[00:31] <moetunes> nope it seems not
[00:34] <muimota_> Hi! just upgraded to 10.10 on my amd m3a78-vm
[00:34] <muimota_> it didn't upgrade well, now it doesn't even boot
[00:35] <muimota_> but the worst thing is that the ether has dissapeared
[00:35] <muimota_> even in slax or windows xp
[00:35] <muimota_> how is this possible? is it possible to fix?
[00:36] <Roxy_> moetunes:  thanks :( i was hoping he was..i did something rly childish toward him :( on my stupidty. feel rly bad and i was wanting to let him know i was sorry >.<
[00:36] <moetunes> muimota_:  afaik that could only be possible if the hardware failed
[00:37] <moetunes> Roxy_:  to find if someone is here type the first three letters of their nick and hit the tab button
[00:37] <muimota_> I know is really hard to believe that upgrading broke the hardware
[00:37] <moetunes> and try later so you can apologise if you need to
[00:37] <moetunes> muimota_:  it was probably just a timing coincidence
[00:38] <muimota_> moetunes: but I can assure before the upgrade the ethernet worked perfect,(I updated from kubuntu 10.04)
[00:39] <moetunes> muimota_:  software can't break hardware in other os's
[00:39] <muimota_> now I don't have the computer right here but I guess I should try to lspci to find out my card
[00:40] <poyntz> phoenix_firebrd: ahh.. so all it would change is that login screen..
[00:40] <muimota_> moetunes: I know , it sounds quite strange I was wondering if there is a chance kubuntu mixed my motherboards BIOS or something weird like that
[00:40] <phoenix_firebrd> poyntz: ya
[00:40] <poyntz> phoenix_firebrd: naa.. it's ok. it probably would work, i just changed the login screen
[00:40] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: hi
[00:41] <phoenix_firebrd> muimota_: hi
[00:41] <poyntz> phoenix_firebrd: do you know how to change icons on the panel?
[00:41] <poyntz> for quicklaunch apps
[00:41] <phoenix_firebrd> muimota_: i had the same problem , i solved it
[00:42] <moetunes> muimota_:  nope - nothing in linux will touch the bios - you could maybe check in the bios to see if the nic is still recognised
[00:42] <poyntz> i used to be able to right click and change it directly, but 10.10 won't let me do that
[00:42] <moetunes> or listen to phoenix_firebrd
[00:42] <moetunes> :)
[00:42] <phoenix_firebrd> :)
[00:42] <muimota_> phoenix_firebrd: could you please help me ?
[00:42] <kyubutsu> tried installing kde4.5.3 [using ppa:kubuntu-ppa] .. failed twice.  gave up.
[00:43] <phoenix_firebrd> muimota_: you dont see anything after you login in to your kubuntu 10.10 after the upgrade?
[00:43] <muimota_> the system doesn't even boot on 10.10
[00:44] <phoenix_firebrd> muimota_: can you see the grub menu?
[00:44] <muimota_> yes
[00:44] <muimota_> phoenix_firebrd: even on recovery mode it doesnt boot
[00:44] <phoenix_firebrd> muimota_: did you try booting in the recovery mode
[00:44] <phoenix_firebrd> muimota_: ok
[00:45] <muimota_> phoenix_firebrd: I can boot windows XP and slax
[00:45] <phoenix_firebrd> muimota_: do you get any error messages?
[00:45] <muimota_> phoenix_firebrd: as I said before roght now I don't have that computer here
[00:45] <muimota_> phoenix_firebrd: the computer restarted , no I didn't have any error messages
[00:46] <phoenix_firebrd> muimota_: did you see the kubuntu bootsplash screen?
[00:46] <muimota_> phoenix_firebrd: nop
[00:46] <muimota_> phoenix_firebrd: nothing after grub
[00:46] <muimota_> :(
[00:46] <phoenix_firebrd> muimota_: do you have a livecd ?
[00:46] <muimota_> phoenix_firebrd: selecting any linux choices in grub it restartes
[00:47] <muimota_> phoenix_firebrd: yes, slax
[00:47] <phoenix_firebrd> muimota_: does that support your filesystem?
[00:48] <muimota_> kubuntu was installed with wubi , so the filsystem is inside NTFS
[00:48] <muimota_> and yes I was able to check it using a windows etx reader
[00:48] <phoenix_firebrd> muimota_: ok
[00:49] <Roxy_> moetunes:  i know about that... it just i think he ignored me because of my childish and out of line thing i did....
[00:50] <Roxy_> ok i need some help or something.... my kamoso when i record a vid and i do a play back on vlc...it plays in fast mode and no sound... is there a way to fix that or something or another... yes i am a noob. >.<
[00:50] <moetunes> Roxy_:  we all make mistakes - check in at the same time you last talked to him - I'm sure it will be fixable :)
[00:50] <phoenix_firebrd> muimota_: boot using it, mount the /boot, paste the grub.cfg
[00:51] <phoenix_firebrd> here
[00:51] <moetunes> !paste
[00:51] <phoenix_firebrd> thats what i meant
[00:51] <muimota_> phoenix_firebrd: ok
[00:52] <muimota_> phoenix_firebrd: tomorrow
[00:52] <muimota_> phoenix_firebrd: the computer is at the office
[00:52] <phoenix_firebrd> muimota_: last question
[00:53] <phoenix_firebrd> muimota_: do you see any disk activity after selecting from grub mennu?
[00:54] <muimota_> phoenix_firebrd: yes , it takes arounf 5-10 seconds to restart since I select the OS in grub
[00:54] <muimota_> phoenix_firebrd: thank you see you tomorow
[00:55] <phoenix_firebrd> muimota_:see you
[00:56] <phoenix_firebrd> poyntz: are you talking about the bootscreen or the login screen?
[01:02] <phoenix_firebrd> poyntz: the default bootsplash in kubuntu 10.10 is text based or the graphical one is disabled.you can use the graphics bootsplash by editing the grub configuration using the app "startup-manager" . select the option "show boot splash"
[01:02] <phoenix_firebrd> in that app
[01:19] <cuznt> i have an old dell system. running ubuntu server. gonna be a file server only, it is on a 40 gig hd/ with my flac music collection on a 500gb hd. which is listed under media. Media does not auto boot its contents, and I want that to boot up with the system
[01:20] <Pici> i/22
[01:22] <moetunes> cuznt:  have you put an entry for it in /etc/fstab?
[01:22] <moetunes> !fstab
[01:24] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: ntfg-config?
[01:24] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: ntfs-config?
[01:25] <moetunes> phoenix_firebrd:  what about it - I don't have anything ntfs and never have :)
[01:25] <phoenix_firebrd> moetunes: sorry wrong question
[01:26] <moetunes> :) sweet
[01:26] <phoenix_firebrd> cuznt:what is the filesystem?
[01:36] <cuznt> ummm sorry was reading
[01:36] <cuznt> edited fstab.
[01:37] <cuznt> my dumbness beat me though
[01:37] <cuznt> mount point would be /dev/sdb1 correct?
[01:37] <moetunes> nope
[01:38] <cuznt> !
[01:38] <cuznt> that is where it is
[01:38] <moetunes> you make a dir in /media or /mnt for it
[01:38] <moetunes> you mount /dev/sdb1 in a dir
[01:38] <moetunes> that you make
[01:38] <cuznt> . /media/music
[01:38] <cuznt> - the .
[01:38] <moetunes> mountpoint is the dir you make
[01:39] <cuznt> so i did do it correctly but it said it did not exist
[01:39] <moetunes> did you make the dir first?
[01:39] <moetunes> mkdir -v /media/something
[01:40] <cuznt> it is a premade 500g flac hog
[01:40] <moetunes> no dude the dir you are mounting /dev/sdb1 to
[01:40] <cuznt> full of music and shns and stuff., i want it in my boot up so i do not have to mount
[01:40] <cuznt> thats it
[01:41] <cuznt> stand by
[01:41] <cuznt> had to reboot the server
[01:42] <moetunes> you can do   sudo mount -av   instead of rebooting
[01:42] <cuznt> blkid
[01:43] <cuznt> " TYPE+"vfat"
[01:43] <cuznt> crap
[01:44] <cuznt> sudo blkid = /dev/sdb1: LABEL="MUSIC" UUID="B205-6477" TYPE="vfat"
[01:44] <moetunes> vfat = fat32 mostly
[01:45] <moetunes> vfat is the linux name for it
[01:45] <cuznt> i dig that.
[01:45] <cuznt> but that it the drive i wish to mount auTo matically
[01:46] <moetunes> you can do that
[01:46] <cuznt> so my entry into fstab at the bottom = and wait it will take 6 years to type it in
[01:47] <moetunes> I don't understand that at all - what do you mean?
[01:47] <cuznt> UUID+B205-6477 /Media?Music     vfat     user    0    0
[01:47] <cuznt> ooops
[01:48] <cuznt> my fstab entry is ~~~>    UUID=B205-6477 /Media?Music     vfat     user    0    0
[01:48] <cuznt> -? =/
[01:48] <cuznt> so the question mark is a slash i mistyped
[01:50] <moetunes> I think it should be Media\ Music - with a space after the slash if there is one in the file name
[01:52] <moetunes> cuznt:  sorry I misread what you are doing - did you mean there is a dir called Music in the system dir /media?
[01:53] <moetunes> no capital M in /media if that is the case
[01:53] <cuznt> yes
[01:54] <moetunes> so it is /media/Music then?
[01:54] <cuznt> i made a small m and now instead of rebooting i can sudo mount -av ?
[01:54] <moetunes> yep
[01:55] <moetunes> the a in -av is for all and the v is for verbose so you know what happens
[01:55] <cuznt> and /media/MUSIC does not exist
[01:55] <moetunes> what does   ls /media   return?
[01:56] <cuznt> cdrom shares
[01:56] <cuznt> which is really /media/MUSIC/shares
[01:58] <moetunes> evidently not...
[01:58] <moetunes> ls can't lie :)
[02:01] <cuznt> nope shares is something else
[02:02] <cuznt> so forget that
[02:02] <cuznt> music would not mount
[02:03] <moetunes> it doesn't exist from what ls said
[02:04] <cuznt> nope it hath dissappeared kiond of
[02:04] <cuznt> kind of
[02:04] <cuznt> it shows up in blkid
[02:04] <moetunes> sudo mkdir -v /media/MUSIC   then
[02:06] <cuznt> ok it came back
[02:07] <cuznt> what does the -v do?
[02:07] <cuznt>  now it shows the location as /media/MUSIC-1/
[02:08] <moetunes> the -v is for verbose - just gives more output on what's going on
[02:09] <moetunes> I don't know why there's a 1 in there...
[02:09] <cuznt> i do not either
[02:11] <cuznt> and now ls /media gets cdrom  music music-1 and shares
[02:11] <cuznt> :p
[02:14] <moetunes> heh - you do know everything in linux is case sensitive?
[02:14] <moetunes> music is diff to Music is diff to MUSIC
[02:15] <cuznt> all musics = MUSIC
[02:15] <cuznt> i am aware of being specific
[02:16] <moetunes> k
[02:20] <cuznt_> UUID=B205-6477	/media/MUSIC	vfat	user	0	0         <~~~so this was my fstab entry to get back to the originL query.
[02:21] <cuznt_> which is obviously incorrect
[02:21]  * cuznt_ does not believe in jeebus
[02:22] <jesus_> que es esto?? entre sin saber
[02:25] <moetunes> !es
[02:32] <Roxy_> does anyone know why everytime i get a torrent to download the status says stalled on every torrent i try to DL?
[02:34] <Roxy_> nvm
[02:35] <poyntz> anyway to fix up akonadi in 10.10?
[02:45] <administrator_> Hi
[02:46] <administrator_> .
[03:17] <kubuntumonkey> I just figured out an issue with multiple monitors
[03:20] <kb3ien_> what are we doing for qos these days? I just upped my home connection to 25Mbps, and backuppc is killing the clients cablemodems.
[03:20] <kb3ien_> i'm liking the idea of using tc but is there a standard place to keep tc commands in Maverik?
[03:25] <kubuntumonkey> Anyone interested in a discussion on Multiple monitor conf?
[03:26] <kb3ien_> anyone got a spare monitor to give me :p -- sorry not tonight.
[04:22] <smartasdan> #ubuntu
[05:48] <noaXess> good morning...
[05:58] <Roxy_> just wanna know if anyone knows a good website where i can just get the music off of youtube..just the music not the vid?
[06:21] <hellnest> morning
[09:33] <noaXess> have an error on /var/lib/dpkg/available.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/533402/
[09:33] <noaXess> any idea/hint how to fix that.. or recreate that file?
[09:36] <amichair> noaXess: guessing - back it up and create an empty one instead
[09:37] <noaXess> amichair: tried that.. so i need to create an empty file.. to just move the current?
[09:37] <amichair> noaXess: there's actually a "dpkg --clear-avail" command, might do the same thing
[09:37] <amichair> moving the current is just for backup so you can undo any further damage :-)
[09:37] <noaXess> amichair: ok.. will test that
[09:37] <noaXess> yeah.. ;)
[09:39] <noaXess> amichair: now it's empty.. so.. what do now to refill it?
[09:40] <amichair> maybe apt-get update?
[09:40] <amichair> noaXess: as you can tell, i'm just guessing here, I dont really know :-)
[09:40] <noaXess> ok..
[09:45] <amichair> was it recreated?
[09:47] <Fleck> 10.10 - each time i login bunch of krusaders open up, even if i close them all before shutdown/restart/logout
[09:48] <Fleck> and master volume is allways muted when i login
[09:48] <moetunes> are you using a new session at login?
[09:48] <Fleck> no, using last session
[09:57] <Fleck> moetunes and krusaders are openeded more and more
[09:58] <Fleck> at begining was only one krusader
[09:58] <Fleck> now i have 4
[09:59] <moetunes> any mention of it in the autostart apps and why not try a new session ?
[10:00] <Fleck> i have i new session on other PC
[10:00] <Fleck> still kmix is muted though no krusader problem
[10:00] <grizmawe> I am using kubuntu maverick but the network settings config does not show my eth0 adapter. daemons.log shows that NetworkManager sucessfully activiated the NIC but still does not show. - link is working and network access is fine but I cannot find the NIC to alter settings...
[10:01] <Fleck> grizmawe i think ifupdown problem?
[10:02] <Fleck> remove all eth0 from /etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:02] <moetunes> the network manager has been giving a few ppl hassles
[10:02] <Fleck> even auto eth0
[10:02] <moetunes> wicd is a good alternative apparently
[10:02] <Fleck> every line that says eth0 ;)
[10:03] <Fleck> dunno, network manager works great here and i love the new gui ;)
[10:03] <Fleck> nice one!
[10:03] <grizmawe> will try - bbiab
[10:05] <grizmawe> Fleck: /etc/network/interfaces only contains refrences to loopback. no mention of eth0
[10:06] <Fleck> hmm
[10:06] <Fleck> sec
[10:07] <grizmawe> the widget shows eth0 when you click on it and says it is connected. but when you click manage connections the wired tab is blank
[10:07] <Fleck> what says this config: /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state
[10:07] <Fleck> ?
[10:08] <grizmawe> Fleck: Networking, wireless and WWAN all enabled
[10:08] <Fleck> sounds good
[10:15] <grizmawe> Fleck: Picture explains better - here is the applet showing that Network manager is handling the NIC fine: http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=1456
[10:15] <Fleck> yes
[10:15] <Fleck> so whats the problem?
[10:15] <grizmawe> Fleck: but the connection settings is blank: http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=1457
[10:16] <Fleck> well its auto
[10:16] <Fleck> click on manage connections
[10:16] <Fleck> and add wired connections as u need
[10:17] <grizmawe> Fleck: should et0 not show in the wired section automatically so you can edit its settings - I want to override search domain that is provided by DHCP.
[10:19] <Fleck> grizmawe add new wired config, tick connect automaticaly and be happy! :)
[10:20] <Fleck> should work
[10:21] <grizmawe> It is done and works but not intuitive. Existing interfaces detected during boot should always show by default - my opinion only....
[10:22] <Fleck> sorry i dont understand you, perhaps my english is not good enough
[10:23] <grizmawe> Fleck: I appologise I mean it is not obvious or easy to know that you need to add a new wired device setting for a NIC that already exists....
[10:23] <Fleck> why not? u do so in windows too
[10:24] <Fleck> cause each interface windows knows - is set up to get settings from dhcp
[10:24] <Fleck> same story here and thats good
[10:24] <Fleck> if you need static ip, or other settings - u add custom
[10:24] <Fleck> whats wrong with that?
[10:25] <Fleck> or again, i dont get u correct? ;)
[10:25] <grizmawe> Fleck: In windows the network connection is already there and you just need to alter its properties. In KDE the wired section is blank until you add a new connection to an existing eth0. Besides I am not coming from windows but from Gnome :P
[10:26] <Fleck> whats the difference, even better, for example laptops and wired networks, at work i have to use static IP, there is no DHCP, at home i have other IP subnet, so other settings needed
[10:26] <Fleck> with windows its nightmare
[10:26] <Fleck> i have to change each time IP to dhcp and vice versa
[10:26] <Fleck> with KDE - i add 2 configs
[10:26] <Fleck> so easy and cool!
[10:27] <Fleck> not just wired
[10:27] <grizmawe> Fleck: I agree but I think eth0 should be there ready to be edited
[10:27] <Fleck> well dunno... :) i dont see the difference anyways
[10:28] <grizmawe> Fleck: you should not need to add a new config to something that network manager is already managing
[10:28] <Fleck> whats the difference click on NEW/ADD button or EDIT button?
[10:28] <Fleck> grizmawe well i agree but thats not a big deal i think! :)
[10:29] <Fleck> now i got your point! :)
[10:29] <grizmawe> Fleck: agreed, not a big deal but usability is all about the little details :D
[10:29] <Fleck> but then again - u will need to create auto ...
[10:29] <Fleck> cause u modified default one...
[10:30] <grizmawe> Fleck:  It works well when you know. Many thanks! - Time to look around KDE. First time using it since about 1998!
[10:31] <Fleck> grizmawe good luck! :) i like KDE ;))
[12:06] <roland> is it possible to get 3D effects working on a Kubuntu10.10 intsall inside vmware?
[12:08] <bazhang> roland, not sure, probably contact vmware and find out; there is also #vbox for virtualbox
[14:32] <rportal> hola aladinha
[14:32] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[15:10] <dmoyne> hello who knows how to set nfs + autofs on client ; I have problems with permission to write in direcories tant I ca view on client
[15:16] <noaXess> firefox won't open flash exaclty... it want open it with firefox built in faudio/video.. how can i reconfigure that, that flash works.. like youtube?
[15:17] <BluesKaj> noaXess, have you installed kubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:18] <dmoyne> noaXess, are you 64 bits
[15:18] <noaXess> yes.. but it worked.. any update has make that unwork..
[15:19] <noaXess> oh i see that gnash is activated in firefox..
[15:20] <dmoyne> nfs who knows ?
[15:22] <noaXess> how to reove the gnash swf plugin from firefox?
[15:23] <dmoyne>  noaXess,  rfemove it with synaptic
[15:23] <noaXess> but i want only remove the plugin from firefox.. not the whole gnash swf player..
[15:23] <dmoyne> noaXess,  at least you see if now it works without
[15:24] <BluesKaj> noaXess, find the plugin in the package manager and remove it ,. not the player
[15:24] <dmoyne> anybody that has installed nfs  + autofs on client
[15:25] <noaXess> BluesKaj: hey...
[15:25] <dasKreech> !nfs
[15:25] <noaXess> BluesKaj: a sudo dpkg -l | gep gnash gives me just gnash
[15:25] <noaXess> the gnash package
[15:26] <dmoyne> ubottu, thanks I will check
[15:26] <BluesKaj> dunno why you use gnash, it's been unstable for ages
[15:26] <noaXess> found it.. mozilla-plugin-gnash
[15:28] <BluesKaj> noaXess, gnash isn't required on kubuntu , it''s gnome app , just rtemove it and reinstall kubuntu-restricted-extras abd yse mplayer or dragon player for video
[15:28] <noaXess> ok
[15:29] <noaXess> BluesKaj: how to set flashplugin to default?
[15:35] <dasKreech> BluesKaj: it is supposed to be stable now
[15:37] <BluesKaj> dasKreech, well, we should use kde apps , don't undestand the attraction to gnash anyway , it's redundant
[15:37] <dasKreech> BluesKaj: so is Linux
[15:37] <BluesKaj> ?
[15:39] <noaXess> BluesKaj: got it.. swfdec was alo installed on that machine..
[15:40] <dasKreech> BluesKaj: as well as basically all of the GNU toolset
[15:41] <BluesKaj> noaXess, the flashplugin-installer is best on kubuntu in my experience , make sure you have that
[15:42] <noaXess> BluesKaj: on my machine no problem.. was on a customer machine... gnash and swfdec was installed.. in any case.. don't know why..
[15:44] <BluesKaj> probly a left over from a gnome install that was replaced with kubuntu-desktop, a couple of yrs ago kde was having flash probs so ppl were installing gnash
[15:45] <BluesKaj> either one of those scenarios could explain it
[15:51] <mollitz> Hi. I'm having a Multitouch-Enabled monitor. When running in Gnome it works perfectly. In KDE touch does NOT work. How do I enable it in KDE? (I saw nice videos about gestures on Plasma)
[17:51] <napier> hi, How I can activate the process kills in  kubuntu desktop?
[17:55] <dasKreech> napier: the process kills?
[17:55] <dasKreech> You mean the task manager?
[17:56] <napier> daskreeck, yes, How I can activate the process kill in kubuntu desktop?
[17:57] <dasKreech> napier: you can press alt+F2 and click on the box to the right of the wrench or you can press Ctrl+Esc which is faster :)
[18:02] <napier> daskreeck, i want to install a process kill like i have in the bar of gnome
[18:02] <napier> but for kubuntu
[18:45] <eric123> hello
[18:48] <chuckf> hi
[18:49] <eric123> This is the first time I have used IRC, just seeing how it works
[18:50] <chuckf> welcome to the channel
[18:52] <ivan_> Hi guys! I occasionly closed the lower panel. How do I restore it with default settings?
[18:52] <BluesKaj> eric123, quassel is somewhat different than most irc clients , but from all reports it works quite well . I prefer konversation myself
[18:53] <eric123> Cool, I will give konversation a try
[18:53] <dasKreech> eric123: welcome
[18:54] <dasKreech> ivan_: right click on the background -> add panel
[19:05] <Phoenixz> How can I see what brand / model is the touchpad of my laptop?
[19:05] <Phoenixz> The touchpad is working, but not correctly. (using kubuntu), KDE system settings is telling me the driver for the touchpad is not installed, how can I install it?
[19:08] <BluesKaj> Phoenixz, look in the kmenu/apps/system/additional hardware foir starters , or do search for touchpad drivers for you make and model laptop on google-linux
[19:10] <BluesKaj> Phoenixz, err , kmenu/apps/system/additional drivers
[19:17] <sresu> Logout process doens't initiate. ps aux - http://pastebin.com/jcjxjQrs. ~/.xsession-errors - http://pastebin.com/wbLnykjU Clicking on logout only stops display manager and moves to tty where it should be killing process and exiting. Instead it only stays leaving the system on the black screen. How can I fix this logout problem?
[19:18] <BluesKaj> sresu, are you logging in at a tty ...I have to ask
[19:18] <sresu> BluesKaj: No
[19:19] <sresu> Normal login
[19:19] <sresu> BluesKaj:  wherein usual kdm starts w/o Desktop effects
[19:20] <BluesKaj> so you're logging in with kde / kdm
[19:20] <sresu> BluesKaj: tty becomes an option to go back to another user account Like when the logout process hangs, I press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login to same user or another to continue my work
[19:21] <sresu> BluesKaj: The moment system starts, it asks for username and password. This is how I normally login
[19:22] <BluesKaj> a tty is always in service unless you logout as that user , hence the logout to the tty when you want to quit
[19:22] <sresu> Yes, I do that
[19:23] <sresu> Lately I have to use tty since the logout probably doesn't complete or initiates
[19:23] <sresu> BluesKaj: Was ps aux of any help?
[19:24] <BluesKaj> sresu, ps aux ?
[19:25] <sresu> BluesKaj:  http://pastebin.com/jcjxjQrs
[19:25] <sresu> BluesKaj: and ~/.xsession-errors - http://pastebin.com/wbLnykjU
[19:25] <BluesKaj> i don't understand why you are root
[19:25] <sresu> Where?
[19:26] <sresu> Scroll down you will find my account  name
[19:26] <BluesKaj> http://pastebin.com/jcjxjQrs
[19:26] <sresu> Yes, I get that. My account is the one mentioned in the end
[19:27] <BluesKaj> never seen root like that before
[19:27] <sresu> Moreover, if you check your uptime <uptime>, it will say 1 extra user which is always root
[19:27] <sresu> BluesKaj: Try <uptime>
[19:28] <BluesKaj> ok, no other users here , so...
[19:28] <sresu> BluesKaj: Moreover, in System Activity (Ctrl+Tab+Esc) would display root as well
[19:29] <BluesKaj> sresu, but why do that , it can be dangerous
[19:30] <sresu> BluesKaj: I'm only confirming that it usually active as well. You can easily try System activity or <top> to find that
[19:32] <moetunes> root will show in top due to processes being started during the boot  - there should be no root user showing in uptimunless you do su -i or something
[19:32] <sresu> BluesKaj: Do you know where is kdm.conf file stored? Does it include kdm.conf file?
[19:32] <sresu> moetunes: I use sudo at times to open kate using CLI to do codong
[19:32] <sresu> coding
[19:33] <sresu> BluesKaj: Sorry, does it include AlwaysRestartServer ?
[19:33] <moetunes> sudo wont add a user named root
[19:34] <sresu> moetunes: Then I cannot say why that's the case with me.
[19:34] <sresu> moetunes: What do you suggest?
[19:34] <moetunes> seems strange tho
[19:35] <DiogenesW> servus
[19:35] <sresu> Got it! /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc
[19:35] <moetunes> sresu:  check at next boot to see if it exists again maybe - or check for rootkits
[19:36] <sonne> hi everyone
[19:36] <sresu> moetunes: I find two other username in top like avahi, daemon, haldaemon. kdm, messagebus,privoxy,rtkit,statd,syslog
[19:37] <sresu> many*
[19:37] <moetunes> sresu:  they aren't users
[19:37] <sresu> Then same goes for root
[19:37] <moetunes> :)
[19:37] <sresu> What?
[19:38] <sresu> My account name is highlighted though rest aren't
[19:39] <moetunes> sresu:  in konsole run   who   it will show who is logged in
[19:39] <sresu> moetunes: hsr
[19:39] <sresu> My account name
[19:40] <sonne> i have two folders with identical subfolder structure, but different files at the lowest level and i want to combine these two folders. Is there a easy way to do this wis a cp commandline?
[19:40] <sresu> moetunes: ps gave the details of current processes in the link provided
[19:42] <sresu> moetunes: What do you suggest then?
[19:44] <moetunes> sresu:  it seems you are chasing ghosts - relax about it
[19:44] <sresu> Bug #38915
[19:44] <sresu> huh?
[19:45] <sresu> BluesKaj: https://launchpad.net/bugs/38915
[19:47] <BluesKaj> ok, sresu , glad I installed nvidia 7600gt on my old machine otherwise i'd have that prob too
[19:47] <sresu> oh..that was for moetunes
[19:50] <sresu> Anyways thanks BluesKaj, moetunes
[19:50] <dasKreech> What drivers are you using?
[19:51] <BluesKaj> sresu, dasKreech , yeah I was about to suggest a driver check might be in order
[19:51] <sresu> dasKreech: http://pastebin.com/xh7xXuXJ
[19:51] <sresu> BluesKaj: How to check drivers?
[19:53] <sresu> BluesKaj: dasKreech: Or shall I try this - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/38915/comments/43 ?
[19:55] <Guest91796> hello people
[19:56] <BluesKaj> sresu, that launchpad bug is for ati drivers , not intel
[19:56] <sresu> BluesKaj: Yeah, I saw that
[19:56] <Guest91796> hello BluesKaj , sresu
[19:56] <sresu> I'm not sure what's causing it
[19:56] <dasKreech> hello Guest91796
[19:56] <sresu> hello Guest91796
[20:01] <thd_> evening ... anyone know how to enable a service ? I'm trying #update-rc.d -f nfs-kernel-server defaults
[20:02] <thd_> but it complains with #insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script `nfs-kernel-server' overwrites defaults (2 3 4 5).
[20:04] <moetunes> is nfs-kernel-server installed
[20:04] <thd_> yes :) I can start it manually with the init script
[20:05] <thd_> I even tried to symlink it directly into rc2, but it did not start on boot
[20:06] <moetunes> sounds like somethings not working right - a workaround is to add a line in rc.local
[20:07] <thd_> ok, will try rc.local, but wouldl love to know why it is failing
[20:12] <moetunes> no idea sorry
[20:14] <dasKreech> !upstart
[20:14] <dasKreech> thd_: ^^^ and #upstart may help
[20:15] <thd_> ok, reading upstart
[20:20] <dany_> hi all
[20:20] <dany_> I'm trying to compile a old version of a library ( I need it) and I get this error:
[20:20] <dany_> gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wunused -o .libs/dc1394_vloopback dc1394_vloopback.o affine.o  -lm ../libdc1394/.libs/libdc1394_control.so /usr/lib/libraw1394.so
[20:20] <dany_> ../libdc1394/.libs/libdc1394_control.so: undefined reference to `raw1394_set_iso_handler'
[20:20] <dany_> any idea of what does it means?
[20:20] <FloodBotK2> dany_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:20] <FloodBotK1> dany_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:20] <PhilRod_> haha floodbots flooding
[20:23] <dany_> no one?
[20:26] <dasKreech> do you have a raw1394_set_iso_handler lib ?
[20:26] <DiogenesW> gute nacht
[20:30] <dany_> dasKreech:  what do you mean with set iso handler lib? anyway I have installed a raw1394 library with apt-get
[20:31] <dany_> I was thinking 2 things: or the raw1394 lib that I have is too new and some function name is different or that
[20:31] <dasKreech> would probably go with the latter
[20:32] <dany_> libdc doesn't see the raw library
[20:32] <dany_> and in this case I have to link it in some way.. right?
[20:32] <dasKreech> dany_: You can probably ask in #ubuntu-kernel
[20:32] <dany_> dasKreech:  ok thanks
[20:41] <apparle> where are the browser identification settings for rekonq?
[20:45] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[20:46] <dasKreech> apparle: #rekonq :)
[20:46] <apparle> no reply there
[20:46] <phoenix_firebrd> i enabled the kubuntu ppa and updated my system. now the weather widget is not absent.
[20:47] <phoenix_firebrd> sorry the weather widget is absent . how can i get it back
[20:52] <dasKreech> phoenix_firebrd: add widgets -> search for weather?
[20:52] <dasKreech> phoenix_firebrd: oh wait hmm did you install the plasmoids package?
[20:53] <phoenix_firebrd> dasKreech: you mean seperately?
[20:55] <phoenix_firebrd> dasKreech: i enabled the ppa and updated. during the update i had to remove the weather widget due to dependency issue. after the update i am not able to find it in the widgets list
[20:55] <dasKreech> phoenix_firebrd: ah did you try reinstall it?
[20:56] <phoenix_firebrd> dasKreech: i tried to find using the kpackagekit and from web sources, i am not able to find it. can you tell me the exact package name
[20:58] <phoenix_firebrd> dasKreech: i think  i found it
[20:58] <dasKreech> !Info plasma-widget-weatherforecast
[21:00] <dasKreech> !info plasma-widget-weatherforecast
[21:00] <dasKreech> stupid bot :)
[21:00] <phoenix_firebrd> heh
[21:01] <phoenix_firebrd> dasKreech: what is found is not the default one, i will try installing plasma-widget-weatherforcast
[21:02] <phoenix_firebrd> dasKreech: its already installed, but its not showing in the widgets list
[21:07] <ankh_> hello
[21:07] <sony> hello
[21:08] <phoenix_firebrd> dasKreech: i think i didnt install the plasma-addons, will that be the problem?
[21:11] <dasKreech> !info plasma-dataengines-addons
[21:13] <phoenix_firebrd> dasKreech: i am installing the plasma-addons, i dont know if it will help
[21:13] <phoenix_firebrd> dasKreech: is this one? http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdeplasma-addons/applets/weather/
[21:14] <dasKreech> maybe
[21:14] <dasKreech> I don't know whihc one you are tlalking abioiut
[21:15] <phoenix_firebrd> ha ha ha
[21:21] <phoenix_firebrd> dasKreech: got it working
[21:21] <phoenix_firebrd> dasKreech: installing plasma-addons did it
[21:24] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: are you there?
[21:24] <apparle> yes
[21:25] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: ?
[21:25] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: approx. 4 days back we were talking about a problem in my bluetooth, i found the problem now
[21:25] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: fireaway
[21:25] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: its the problem in the driver, that is the kernel
[21:26] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: so did you find a patch or something for it?
[21:27] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: any idea on how to fix it?
[21:27] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: i used another bluetooth dongle it worked perfectly, but the that didnt work perfectly is not yet fully supported in the currect kernel.
[21:28] <phoenix_firebrd> but the default one didnt work perfectly is not yet fully supported in the currect kernel.
[21:28] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: did you find anyone with same problem or a bug etc ?
[21:29] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: i tried the kubuntu 11.04 today, which uses kernel 2.6.37rcx. that bluetooth dongle didnt work, seems that my bluetooth dongle wont he supported in the future
[21:29] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: but where is the bug
[21:29] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd:  I mean you will have to find the source of the problem
[21:30] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: ya everyone using the particular brand of bluethooth are having problem
[21:30] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: which brand?
[21:30] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: accel semiconductors, china
[21:30] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: and isn't there a single patch or something for it?
[21:31] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: no
[21:31] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: bug is already filed
[21:31] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: give me the link
[21:31] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: ok wait
[21:32] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/398930
[21:33] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: has anyone tried locating the problem in the C code?
[21:33] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: this is the vendor id : product id  0c10:0000
[21:34] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: dont know about that
[21:34] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: i dont know much about hardware programming
[21:34] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: last time tried to debug a driver found out some asm routines
[21:35] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: if i have to debug i have to look for the source code of the file btusb.so
[21:35] <phoenix_firebrd> the btusb.so is the driver
[21:37] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: in which ubuntuversion did it work alright?
[21:38] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: it didnt work in any version
[21:38] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: but the bug says, it worked in Jaunty
[21:38] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: did you check in the old versions?
[21:38] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: i havnt used jaunty
[21:38] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: i started with karmic
[21:39] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: should i check with the older versions?
[21:39] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: can't help, I don't know much about drivers either
[21:40] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: if it works in the older version, what should i do next?
[21:40] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: you could try with jaunty..... but I suggest you try ubuntu because kbluetooth was horrible in jaunty
[21:40] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: I think maybe,  you could try installing the latest kernel or the bluetooth driver into jaunty so that we can make sure if it is driver problem or not
[21:42] <jmichaelx> would there not be a way to use gnome's bluetooth tools in KDE?
[21:42] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: even if i find that its a driver problem what will the solution for it
[21:42] <jmichaelx> providing the issue is the tools, not something kernel-related
[21:43] <phoenix_firebrd> jmichaelx: i tried blueman already, thats not the problem
[21:43] <jmichaelx> phoenix_firebrd: ok... sorry for budding-in right in he middle of things then!
[21:43] <jmichaelx> the*
[21:44] <phoenix_firebrd> jmichaelx: thats ok
[21:44] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: then at least we have localized the problem
[21:44] <apparle> :P
[21:44] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: maybe you could search through all the patches to see if there has been a regression, and fix it
[21:45] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: if it is not the driver but bluez then you could search through its patches
[21:45] <jmichaelx> the thing i hate most about linux is not that there is a fair amount of hardware that does not work... what i hate is that there are so many things that work in one version, but not in the next... only to work again in the next, and once more not work in the next
[21:45] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: but I think that would go out of hand
[21:45] <jmichaelx> it's that way with wireless, video, audio, bluetooth... you name it
[21:46] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: i tried the latest version of bluez, thats not the problem
[21:46] <jmichaelx> phoenix_firebrd: are you in maverick?
[21:46] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: I mean if an older version of bluez worked then, maybe there has been a rgression
[21:47] <phoenix_firebrd> jmichaelx: ya
[21:47] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: i will recheck that, i will be back shortly
[21:47] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: what
[21:47] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: how will you check that
[21:47] <jmichaelx> phoenix_firebrd: one option you *might* consider is intsalling the 2.6.36 kernel from the kernel ppa.... it is possible that could make a difference
[21:48] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: going the install the bluez latest version again and check
[21:48] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: you could do that, try install a jaunty version.... and if you have good net connection, download jaunty and test it there
[21:48] <phoenix_firebrd> jmichaelx: today i tried the kubuntu 11.04 alpha, that has kernel 2.6.37 rcx, no use
[21:49] <jmichaelx> phoenix_firebrd: even if .37 didn't work, .36 might
[21:49] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: sure trying jaunty will be my next step
[21:49] <jmichaelx> phoenix_firebrd: everything is just wildly back and forth
[21:49] <phoenix_firebrd> apparle: one small note, 11.04 was very fast
[21:49] <apparle> jmichaelx: not wildly
[21:50] <phoenix_firebrd> jmichaelx: :)
[21:50] <jmichaelx> apparle: wildly.... if you think otherwise, you have lucked into the right combination of hardware
[21:50] <apparle> phoenix_firebrd: that is always the case.... if luckily all of your hardware works well in new version then it is always faster than previous
[21:51] <phoenix_firebrd> jmichaelx: is 2.6.36 available is kubuntu beta ppa
[21:51] <jmichaelx> phoenix_firebrd: it may be... i was thinking of a specific kernel ppa
[21:51] <phoenix_firebrd> jmichaelx: i am afraid if it will break my system
[21:52] <jmichaelx> phoenix_firebrd: i only suggested the .36 kernel, since it would be an easy thing to test. if it doesn't help, just uninstall
[21:52] <jmichaelx> phoenix_firebrd: if it does not work, you just remove the package
[21:52] <phoenix_firebrd> jmichaelx: ok, after testing with bluez
[21:53] <phoenix_firebrd> i will be back after testing
[21:53] <chris____> Hello, I was wondering if I could get some help with a problem I have upgrading my 9.10 Kubuntu to 10.04.1 LTS.
[21:54] <chris____> Every time I try to upgrade the upgrader returns exit code 127.
[21:55] <phoenix_firebrd> chris____: did you check the webpage before upgrading. there might be a preupgrade tasks
[21:55] <phoenix_firebrd> brb
[21:58] <jmichaelx> chris____: you could try upgrading from the command line
[21:58] <jmichaelx> chris____: do you have many packages installed from 3rd party repos?
[21:59] <chris____> Nah, actually just installed 9.10 from a stick and now want to upgrade strate away.
[22:00] <chris____> Especially since for some reason 9.10 doesn't support my wi-fi out of the box for some reason, but I heard lucid does.
[22:00] <jmichaelx> chris____: ok, BEFORE you upgrade to 10.04, you should make sure you update your 9.10 installation
[22:00] <jmichaelx> chris____: what wireless adapter are you using?
[22:01] <chris____> How do I do that?  When I open up package man. the only upgrade I see is to lucid.
[22:02] <chris____> Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g
[22:02] <chris____> According to lspci | grep Network
[22:02] <jmichaelx> chris____: ok, did you already select to upgrade to karmic at some point?
[22:03] <jmichaelx> chris____: yes, that card should work in 9.04.... but upgrading to 10.04 would be worthwhile in any event
[22:03] <chris____> Nah, all I did was install 9.10 and then try to update; but only option is to upgrade to lucid in package manager.
[22:03] <jmichaelx> 9.10*
[22:03] <jmichaelx> chris____: i am honestly not very familiar with the update manager... just open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[22:03] <chris____> I've heard some others have strange out-of-box probs with driver.
[22:03] <chris____> I'll try that... thanks.
[22:04] <jmichaelx> chris____: well, the firmware is not there out of the box
[22:04] <apparle> chris____: why do you want to upgrade.... just perform a fresh installation
[22:04] <chris____> I'd rather just upgrade if possible apparle ;D
[22:05] <jmichaelx> chris____: i should have asked the same thing apparle is asking... if this is a fresh installation to begin with, you should do a fresh installation of 10.04
[22:05] <chris____> sudo apt-get update seems to be updating fine...
[22:05] <apparle> chris____: it is too much a hassle.... if you can backup, do an upgrade....
[22:05] <chris____> I'll try dist-upgrade when that's done, thanks for now anyways!
[22:06] <jmichaelx> chris____: when that is finished, after rebooting someone should be able to help with upgrading to 10.04
[22:06] <chris____> Kay thanks!!
[22:08] <apparle> chris____: I still think you should do a fresh install.... is there any specific reason you stick to upgrade?
[22:12] <chris____> Why do I need to fresh install?  What's the plus-side?
[22:15] <chris____> I'm gonna upgrade to lucid tommorow, getting late.  I tried starting it and it works fine but 1h30m download needs to wait!  Thanks for the help.
[22:15] <chris____> Yeah; I know.  My internet's slow.#
[22:16] <jmichaelx> chris____: fresh installs are always the surest way to a cleanly running system.... but upgrades do usually work fine
[22:19] <apparle> where are the browser identification settings for rekonq?
[22:21] <Guest70722> jaja
[22:27] <Freddy2> hi
[22:28] <Freddy2> is only me or kde 4.5.3 is available in the ppa for lucid?
[22:37] <Unksi> Freddy2: afaik the newest version is only available to maverick
[22:37] <Unksi> and 4.5.1 or 4.5.2 is for lucid
[22:40] <Freddy2> hmm synaptic is telling me something different
[22:43] <Freddy2> ah, it comes from staging hehe
[22:46] <Freddy2> ok, staging is out and no more updates (4.5.1 is the top most available for lucid)
[23:05] <RadSurfer> What is needed to get Kubuntu to recognize a video dvd? Nothing appears to happen when I insert one
[23:14] <asfyxia> @Radsurfer, don you get an indication on your screen that your system recognizes a new medium?
[23:15] <RadSurfer> Dolphin does not.
[23:15] <RadSurfer> vlc, and gxine does not play dvd's.
[23:15] <RadSurfer> Something is obviously missing I'm guessing
[23:16] <asfyxia> Did you try a regular cd or something like that?
[23:16] <RadSurfer> data dvd's read fine
[23:16] <RadSurfer> I'm trying to watch a video dvd
[23:17] <asfyxia> Well, that's odd. VLC should play a dvd. Or is it protected by css or DRM?
[23:17] <RadSurfer> no idea. how can I check. it doesn't recognize it
[23:17] <RadSurfer> I could try another, see if any work
[23:18] <asfyxia> I think your dvd is protected.  For css (I think it was called that way) is possible
[23:18] <RadSurfer> hmm.
[23:19] <RadSurfer> A different video dvd is recognized.
[23:19] <RadSurfer> oh pooh
[23:19] <asfyxia> Let me look up something, just hold on...
[23:20] <jmichaelx> RadSurfer: have you installed libdvdcss2? you will need to get it from medibuntu, or some other 3rd party source
[23:21] <asfyxia> Radsurfer, I found it: you open a terminal, and do sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh .That should do the trick (copy/paste it to avoid mistyping) ;-)
[23:22] <RadSurfer> done.
[23:26] <barraponto> how do i upgrade to kde >= 4.5.2 ??
[23:28] <asfyxia> @RadSurfer, can you get your dvd working now?
[23:28] <RadSurfer> no. Apparently they are encrypted or something. a "standard/ordinary" video dvd plays fine
[23:29] <jmichaelx> asfyxia: i had no idea that an install script for dvd css was included somewhere in an ubuntu installation
[23:29] <jmichaelx> asfyxia: is the included css the same or similar to the libdvdcss2 that is available from medibuntu?
[23:30] <asfyxia> Too bad for you. Then I'm afraid itś locked by DRM. A couple of weeks ago I heard that they cracked the code, but it will take some time before we can enjoy that
[23:31] <asfyxia> @jmichaelx, yes it is. By this way you avoid the slow medibuntu servers. With thanks to our forum hero Pjotr who wrote the instruction ;-)
[23:31] <jmichaelx> asfyxia: well ty... i am happy to have leaned about this
[23:31] <jmichaelx> learned*
[23:32] <asfyxia> Ok, I'm going now, thatś all I could do for you. I'm from the Netherlands and it's already night here ;-)
[23:34] <jmichaelx> het is ook nacht hier in die USA
[23:34] <maco> !de | jmichaelx
[23:34] <jmichaelx> maco: no...
[23:34] <jmichaelx> !nl
[23:34] <jmichaelx> lol
[23:36] <jmichaelx> maco: almost the same thing, though... and i know this is an english only channel. apologies!


[01:55] <jthan> WHOA
[01:55]  * jthan pokes around
[01:55] <jthan> anyone?
[01:55] <rmg51> o/
[01:55] <jthan> \o/
[01:55] <jthan> I just upgraded to Natty... Terribly disappointed :-(
[01:56] <rmg51> yeah, I'm not feeling Unity :-/
[01:56] <jthan> Nope.
[01:57] <jthan> And in general the whole thing is buggy..
[01:57] <jthan> After I resume from suspend things go missing until a reboot.. Just not happy with the performance. My boot time is near 2 minutes.
[01:57] <rmg51> on a clean install I lost wireless with network manager
[01:58] <jthan> now without Googling I can't even figure out how to ditch Unity :-P
[01:58] <rmg51> easy
[01:58] <jthan> Do I have to change my session?
[01:58] <rmg51> system
[01:59] <rmg51> admin
[01:59] <rmg51> login screen
[01:59] <jthan> Ah. yea.
[01:59] <rmg51> at the bottom is a drop down box
[01:59] <rmg51> pick classic
[02:00] <jthan> Is it any less buggy for you?
[02:00] <rmg51> depends on the computer
[02:00] <rmg51> this one is still on 10.10
[02:01] <rmg51> just didn't get around to upgrading it yet
[02:01] <rmg51> Teddy's System76 laptop seems fine
[02:02] <rmg51> had to go back to rhythmbox
[02:03] <rmg51> banshee messed up :-(
[02:04] <jthan> Oh boy. I gotta ehad out for now. I'm reconfiguring some stuff on my linode then I should be back full time ;-)
[02:04] <jthan> good chatting for all of five minutes
[02:05] <rmg51> bye
[02:47] <bts3685|vps> jthan: holy crap dude, you're alive!
[03:32] <jthan> bts3685|vps: same could be said to you!
[03:34] <jthan> Soon as I drag all the files off the linode and reinstall... an OS - I'll get irssi up and running
[03:35] <jthan> Calc and Analytical Writing have been kicking my BUTT, and work has been pretty hectic.
[04:50] <ChinnoDog> jthan is too busy for us
[07:12] <InHisName> What a busy nite (for only jthan)
[07:20] <bts3685|vps> i've been busy working!
[08:00] <InHisName> Lucky stiff, a paying job!
[11:03] <JonathanD> Morning PA
[11:11] <rmg51> morning JonathanD
[11:12] <JonathanD> howdy rmg51
[11:13] <rmg51> o/
[11:17] <JonathanD> How goes?
[11:20] <rmg51> just reading the digital version of the morning Inquirer
[11:29] <rmg51> breakfast time :)
[11:30] <ssweeny> lunch time :)
[11:31] <rmg51> let me know when it's nap time ;-)
[13:52] <InHisName> Good morning all you early birds and luncheon fellows - JonathanD, rmg51, & ss
[13:53] <InHisName> ssweeny  instead of ss
[14:05] <JonathanD> Hello InHisName
[14:05] <InHisName> Whuts up this morn, JonathanD
[14:26] <JonathanD> nothing much.
[14:27] <JonathanD> Gonna do some more recabling today.
[14:27] <InHisName> Ooooo sooo exciting, re-cabling.   Cat-5 ?
[14:51] <JonathanD> power.
[14:54] <InHisName> It's still better than wearysome task that keeps on repeating and repeating
[14:54] <InHisName> job searching
[18:03]  * ChinnoDog yawns
[18:13]  * teddy-dbear hugs :-D
[19:08]  * InHisName notices it is now afternoon already.
[19:17] <JonathanD> indeed.
[19:17] <JonathanD> InHisName: so it is.
[19:20] <InHisName> so lets have a frenzied discussion of things ubuntu.
[19:22] <knightzero> Ubuntu, Wine, and a particular e-book reader that requires Visual basic do not play well together.
[19:24] <InHisName> Go tee-totaler and dump the e-book reader and keep ubuntu.
[19:25] <knightzero> I would if it weren't required for school - and if the alternative wasn't a horrible web based HTML reader with zero search functionality.
[19:25] <InHisName> Or if you are very inflexable, adopt VirtualBox and add an OS that supports VB for the e-reader.
[19:27] <knightzero> That's my current workaround.  I'd still love to make it work in Wine though.  Its not Wine's fault at all, this program is just....eh....describable in words that violate the family-friendly nature of this channel.
[19:31] <InHisName> Ok, moving on....   If I enable 'cube' in compiz in 10.04  what command spins and other actions on it ?
[19:32] <knightzero> If you have the CompizConfig settings manager installed, you should be able to map it to whatever you want.
[19:37] <InHisName> Yea, I got that.   I seem to have only two desktops but not able to see cube yet.  Must be more settings to fix.
[19:38] <knightzero> The button mappings are under rotate cube>bindings, and you'll need to enable rotate cube and desktop cube
[19:40] <teddy-dbear> flipping the cube is no fun with only 2 desktops :P
[19:41] <InHisName> initiate = <ctrl><alt>Button1     so I tried ctrl-alt + all diff mouse buttons  what is '1'?
[19:41] <knightzero> Too true, teddy-dbear
[19:41] <knightzero> button1=usually the left mouse button.
[19:41] <InHisName> Where to increase count of desktops from 2 ?
[19:42] <knightzero> hold all three and you can spin the cube
[19:42] <teddy-dbear> default is crtl/alt/left or right arrows
[19:43] <InHisName> That shifts to left desktop
[19:43] <knightzero> From the desktops view on your gnome toolbar, you should be able to right click and select the number of desktops.
[19:43] <InHisName> Is setting for # desktops in compizmgr ?
[19:44] <teddy-dbear> bottom right corner
[19:44] <teddy-dbear> lower panel
[19:45] <InHisName> Ok I see it now
[19:45] <teddy-dbear> you should have 2 squares showing
[19:46] <InHisName> Ok setting changed to 4.    Shows 4 upon review but still only 2 to move about in, yet.    Do I need to 'reboot' or sumthin' ?
[19:47] <knightzero> You should be able to change arrangement as well - if they are stacked as a square, the cube rotation doesn't work quite right.
[19:49] <knightzero> Under preferences, set rows to 1
[19:51] <InHisName> Yea, they are 1 row 4 desktops.    But only have two so far.
[19:52] <InHisName> 4 cols x 1 row
[19:53] <knightzero> That should update immediately.
[20:14] <InHisName> reboot to see if that fixes anything .....   Two other things want a reboot anyway.
[20:24] <InHisName> well reboot cleared that up. Got 4 desktops in one row.
[20:25] <InHisName> Ok, now it rotates
[20:25] <InHisName> Now you guys can resume the regularly scheduled discussions about all things ubuntu......
[20:28] <InHisName> kids home from school.   Chore day.   bb MUCH later


[19:51] <satellit_> PetrosPolonos: look at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Ubuntu
[19:54] <satellit_> also:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sugar
[19:56] <PetrosPolonos> Thanks. Going there.
[19:57] <satellit_> best is sugar 0.88.1 sweets...:  )
[19:58] <satellit_> 10.04LTS or 10.10
[19:59] <satellit_> PertosPolonos: I use 10.10 on my laptop with sugar...
[19:59] <PetrosPolonos> I have 10.10 on my main laptop,
[20:00] <PetrosPolonos> and I got Sugar as the alternate GDM (Gnome is my main).
[20:00] <PetrosPolonos> I also burned USR CD from the net and installed it on my kids' laptops, parallelly to Win&
[20:00] <PetrosPolonos> *7
[20:01] <PetrosPolonos> But I see slight differences between these two packages.
[20:02] <PetrosPolonos> We shall be testing Sugar quite q lot, as I plan to spread the word in Poland.
[20:02] <PetrosPolonos> As Ubuntu is probably the most popular desktop linux here,
[20:03] <PetrosPolonos> and I have  a bit of experience with it,
[20:03] <PetrosPolonos> thus I am trying to make it my standard.
[20:03] <PetrosPolonos> but apparently I will need sort of my own distro for that.
[20:04] <PetrosPolonos> We just made some initial tests on 4 machines and many activities do not work,
[20:04] <PetrosPolonos> peer visibility is weird, asymmetric, and so on.
[20:24] <satellit_> PetrosPolonos: Try ALSO http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Trisquel#Installing_Sugar_on_Trisquel_4.0.1_and_Trisquel_4.5  4.5 is 10.10 and most sugar applications just work on it.
[20:25] <satellit_> use http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Trisquel_On_A_Sugar_Toast#Install_Sugar-desktop_0.88_.22SWEETS.22  for install.....same as for 10.10 Ubuntu. Alsroot has fiixed it well
[20:27] <PetrosPolonos> OK, I am now chewing through adding sweets to my regular Ubuntu.
[20:27] <satellit_> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Emulator_image_files#Trisquel-4.5_-Gnome-sugar_BETA is ready to import into VirtualBox 4.0
[20:27] <PetrosPolonos> Should I go for .88 or .90?
[20:27] <satellit_> 0.88
[20:27] <satellit_> the later one has problems in sharing
[20:28] <satellit_> ask alsroot (it is his work) also
[20:30] <alsroot> PetrosPolonos: the problem is that in 0.90, sugar switched to use telepathy-mission-control instead of sugar-presence-service. there are bunch of related issues, the last stable sugar that is being used in the filed is 0.88
[20:30] <PetrosPolonos> I see.
[20:32] <PetrosPolonos> Instaling...
[20:41] <PolandOLPCS-b18a> It's Petros - from Sugar now.
[20:43] <PolandOLPCS-b18a> satellit_: I apparently installet packages - at least Synaptic says so. How can I verify that from within Sugar desktop? Some Activity version check, or alike?
[20:52] <satellit_> PolandOLPCS-b18a: did you install sugar-emulator...(menu education sugar) if not use gdm login at bottom bar for sugar instead of gnome
[20:53] <satellit_> symantec for sugar-emulator
[20:53] <satellit_> use sugar-emulator -f   for full screen in command
[20:54] <PolandOLPCS-b18a> I have it configured for ages. :-) There is a separate user for Sugar and I relogin for that.
[20:54] <PolandOLPCS-b18a> It is still an experiment for me and I keep it separate from my daily gnome.
[20:54] <satellit_> not a user...gdm login on bottom bar after logout
[20:54] <PolandOLPCS-b18a> I understand.
[20:55] <PolandOLPCS-b18a> Berhaps it is an overkill, but I created separate user and assigned him Sugar GDM.
[20:55] <satellit_> ok  have to go out now  good luck
[20:55] <satellit_afk> :  )
[20:55] <PolandOLPCS-b18a> Thank you for your help.
[20:55] <satellit_afk> yw


[01:33] <bluesabre> Unit193: you around?
[01:33] <Unit193> no.
[01:33] <bluesabre> ah
[01:33] <bluesabre> I'll check back later then
[01:33] <Unit193> :D
[01:33] <bluesabre> :D
[01:34] <bluesabre> I have a fix for exo... wondering if you wanted to test it yourself, https://git.xfce.org/xfce/exo/commit/?id=f016e39ba009e3cfa66c82af9394cae7951e6916
[01:57] <Unit193> Fine, fine. :(
[02:07] <Unit193> bluesabre: Right, so without re-logging or rebooting, seems no longer able to reproduce error just opening a terminal.
[02:12] <Unit193> http://paste.openstack.org/show/rWxn5Up2EdlsaA7hmssP/ FWIW.
[07:07] <flocculant> Unit193: they appear to be ignoring you re core ...
[07:08] <Unit193> Big news, been doing that past few cycles.
[07:23] <flocculant> :)
[09:21] <knome> Unit193, i've pinged infinity re: core/base again, as we're still waiting for actions from him
[10:16] <knome> akxwi-dave, btw, do you still plan to keep using the qa tab on the tracker during next cycle?
[10:17] <akxwi-dave> yep.. if possible
[10:18] <knome> of course :)
[10:18] <knome> i was just checking
[10:18] <knome> and as i've said before, if there is something i can help with... please ask and we'll see what's realistic :)
[10:23] <akxwi-dave> will do mate
[10:23] <knome> cheers
[10:23] <knome> (^ not only related to tracker)
[10:23] <bluesabre> (^ true statement)
[10:24] <knome> :D
[10:24] <knome> hello bluesabre
[10:24] <bluesabre> hello knome and akxwi-dave
[10:24] <akxwi-dave> morning bluesabre
[10:27] <bluesabre> ochosi, Unit193: new exo released, package in https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xfce4-gtk3 (just don't grab the xfconf from there)
[10:27] <Unit193> :3
[10:27] <knome> :)
[10:31] <knome> hello ochosi too
[10:32]  * ochosi is just lurking
[10:32] <knome> we know, we know...
[10:33] <bluesabre> :D
[20:28] <nairwolf> Hi, I receveid a mail saying that my membership in the Xubuntu Testers is due to expire. I've renewed this membership but I wanted to understand why I've received this mail ? Is it automatic, or is it because 'something' has detected I wasn't active ?
[20:29] <Unit193> https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-testers/+members which do you think? ;)
[20:33] <knome> everybody is set to expire from 6 months after they register
[20:33] <knome> err, 6 months from
[20:33] <knome> or -from
[20:46] <Unit193> bluesabre: Debian #834652
[20:47] <Unit193> Heh, two different ways you used to spell it, neither are right. :D
[21:07] <nairwolf> so, it's a good thing ;)
[21:07] <Unit193> Normal at least.
[21:07] <nairwolf> to send a mail every six months ;)
[21:09] <knome> the goal is to have the most up-to-date list of people who test xubuntu, so yes, that should be useful
[21:25] <nairwolf> and it's a good reminder
[21:26] <knome> exactly that's why it's useful
[21:26] <Unit193> "Hey are you still doing this?"


[04:22] <Matrix3000> guys, need some help
[04:23] <Matrix3000> base install of maas right now doesn't function out of the box
[04:23] <Matrix3000> at least from the 12.04.2 release cd
[04:23] <Matrix3000> also maas-cli doesn't exist anymore
[08:29] <k0d> Hej! So I've got Maas controlling various nodes, but now I'd like to reinstall one. I don't really see an easy way to 'reprovision' a node.
[08:30] <bigjools> k0d: you just ask maas to release it.  it gets reinstalled when it is next used.
[08:30] <melmoth> k0d, remove all service from it with juju destroy-service, then unallocate the machine with juju terminate-machine
[08:30] <melmoth> then it should appears back in Ready state in the web gui.
[08:31] <melmoth> you can then redeploy stuff on it
[08:31] <k0d> ok, what I don't understand yet is the juju thing ;)
[08:31] <k0d> I haven't actually got that installed yet
[08:32] <k0d> bigjools: I missed your message ;) I can use maas-cli to release it…I've done that bit before!
[08:33] <bigjools> k0d: there you gop
[08:33] <bigjools> go
[08:34] <k0d> Is there a reason that it's not available inside of the web interface?
[08:34] <bigjools> it's just not implemented
[08:34] <bigjools> it should be there
[08:35] <k0d> Ok, I see.
[08:36] <k0d> To me it feels like this is a very good system, with a defined plan/goal, but it's not all been implemented yet.
[08:36] <k0d> bigjools: melmoth: thanks for your help!
[08:44] <k0d> It's really nice to be able to start/stop nodes with the power management things, but I don't seem to be able to get it to work with my virtual machines…only the bare-metal ones.
[08:44] <k0d> :(
[08:45] <k0d> I'm using VMWare, maybe I need to switch to something else that virsh works well with, but then I don't yet understand how to configure that. Does anyone have knowledge/experience with it?
[12:00] <k0d> Hej, I'm trying to pass on control of a node to puppet after it's been installed.
[12:00] <k0d> juju seems to be the wrong way for me to go about this
[13:13] <k0d> Does anyone know how to configure the cloud-init config that gets sent?
[17:07] <roaksoax> rvba: around?
[18:44] <vasu> Q: I installed maas on 12.10 in VMware. with 2 NICS. on the private NIC (disabled dhcp), i have a 2nd VM booting via PXE.
[18:45] <vasu> the 2nd VM gets dhcp ip from MAAS, but fails to get tftp image.
[18:45] <vasu> anybody has a hint for me, where to look?
[20:06] <ppetraki> roaksoax, could you please get someone to review this? https://code.launchpad.net/~vanhoof/maas/ipmi-state-fix_lp1086160/+merge/159714
[20:06] <ppetraki> trivial code change, big impact
[20:27] <roaksoax> ppetraki: done


[00:01] <TheLordOfTime> AlanBell, its past the hour mark, is there a time drift from internet-sync'd time on the server ubottu/logbots are on?
[00:02] <AlanBell> it takes a few minutes to write out all the channels
[00:02] <AlanBell> looks like that one is at 4 minutes past the hour
[00:03] <TheLordOfTime> it hasn't updated yet :P
[00:03] <TheLordOfTime> ... figures though, given the # of channels... :P
[00:04] <AlanBell> there we go
[00:10] <TheLordOfTime> AlanBell, apparently the bots don't track joins/parts/bans on the logs?
[00:11] <TheLordOfTime> or is that by-design
[00:11] <AlanBell> by design, the logs are there for humans to refer to
[00:11] <AlanBell> they are also handy for ops :)
[00:13] <TheLordOfTime> i assume you're talking with the guy in question, he just reversed a couple of bans
[00:13] <hggdh> it is interesting to note that the logs show people asking the op to behave
[00:13] <TheLordOfTime> indeed
[00:13]  * TheLordOfTime sees that despite the crap translations of Google.
[00:13] <hggdh> heh
[00:14] <hggdh> at least this is a language I master, sort of
[00:14] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh, oh good, you can translate everything on the log page into english for us :P
[00:16] <hggdh> it is actually sad to see what is going on there
[00:16] <TheLordOfTime> he just kickbanned himself.
[00:16] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh, that channel's worse than... well...
[00:17] <TheLordOfTime> um... certain other  channels i've witnessed.
[00:17]  * TheLordOfTime cannot elaborate at this time
[00:18] <AlanBell> huh? Rudolf kickbanned himself?
[00:18] <TheLordOfTime> mhm
[00:18] <TheLordOfTime> * ChanServ gives channel operator status to Rudolf
[00:18] <TheLordOfTime> * Rudolf sets ban on *!*rodolfo@unaffiliated/rudolf
[00:18] <TheLordOfTime> * Rudolf has kicked Rudolf from #ubuntu-br (Rudolf)
[00:19] <TheLordOfTime> AlanBell, and this is why the logs should track bans/kicks :P
[00:20] <AlanBell> we have tools for the channels we manage directly, team and loco channels are largely self managing
[00:20] <AlanBell> anyhow, that is a bit of a separate issue
[00:20] <AlanBell> I have asked ursinha to pop in for a chat about the channel
[00:22] <hggdh> that would be nice, she was one of the ops there for a while
[00:22] <TheLordOfTime> still's on the acl
[00:22] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[00:22] <AlanBell> she is one of the people with founder flags in the list
[00:23] <TheLordOfTime> err... don't you mean flag-setting powers?  founder's +F, Ursinha doesn't have that according to chanserv
[00:23] <TheLordOfTime> but they have +f
[00:23] <AlanBell> quite right, little f
[00:23] <TheLordOfTime> (or is my irc client not parsing data)
[00:23] <AlanBell> but hey flags are just bits in a machine :)
[00:24] <Fuchs> bleep boop boop
[00:25] <TheLordOfTime> boop beep beep bleep boop beep? ;P
[00:25] <AlanBell> anyhow, I think as Rudolf has now removed himself I am going to lift the ban now which I should be able to do with the ubuntu/member cloak
[00:25] <TheLordOfTime> AlanBell, it was removed
[00:25] <TheLordOfTime> by IdleOne
[00:26] <AlanBell> oh, great :)
[00:26] <TheLordOfTime> and rudolf also undid hggdh's ban
[00:26] <TheLordOfTime> and the other person he banned.
[00:26] <TheLordOfTime> idleone's done further cleanup it seems
[00:26] <AlanBell> IdleOne ftw
[00:26] <IdleOne> I think all the bans on ops are removed
[00:26] <TheLordOfTime> IdleOne the Magnificent.
[00:26] <IdleOne> But wth happened in there?
[00:27] <AlanBell> I was a bit reluctant to go in and start sorting things out without dealing with the conflict situation itself
[00:27] <AlanBell> and as I lack the language I didn't want to go making things worse :)
[00:27] <hggdh> my ban still seems to be active
[00:28] <hggdh> (I assume, since I still cannot join the channel)
[00:28] <TheLordOfTime> really?
[00:28]  * TheLordOfTime looks
[00:28] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh, nope, you're not banned...
[00:28] <hggdh> a /join gets 'cannot send to channel'
[00:28] <TheLordOfTime> did you try actually joining?
[00:28] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh, erm, what?
[00:28] <IdleOne> try again
[00:29] <TheLordOfTime> it wouldn't say that unless there were a ' ' before that, a /join never gets sent to channel :P
[00:29] <hggdh> now it took it
[00:29]  * hggdh goes blame weechat for a while
[00:32] <hggdh> ah, I know what happened when I tried to join -- I was using the old buffer for the channel, cannot do that
[00:36] <AlanBell> Fuchs: could you remove Rudolf from the #ubuntu-br access list please
[00:36] <Fuchs> no?
[00:36] <Fuchs> err
[00:36] <Fuchs> silly me
[00:36] <Fuchs> AlanBell: excuse me, I misparsed that, yes, I can
[00:36] <AlanBell> :0
[00:36] <AlanBell> :)
[00:37] <Fuchs> AlanBell: there we go :)
[00:37]  * Fuchs goes to corner and feels ashamed
[00:38] <hggdh> AlanBell, at al.: thank you for your help
[00:38] <AlanBell> thanks
[00:39] <Fuchs> AlanBell: silly question probably, aren't you guys usually on the ACL with that Council account?
[00:39] <AlanBell> normally, yes
[00:40] <Fuchs> I don't mind doing it for you, as you know the GCs can request that for everything in their namespace. Just don't know if you prefer managing things on your own
[00:40] <AlanBell> we will probably get that sorted out too, but I don't want to complicate the issue
[00:41] <Fuchs> Sure
[00:41] <Fuchs> It's not an urgent issue I guess, people who have access to that account are probably the same that can poke us about it anyway
[00:42] <AlanBell> they are, yes :)
[00:42] <Fuchs> Okay :)  Again, sorry for initial confusion and have a nice day :)
[00:42] <Fuchs> well, night, I guess
[00:42] <AlanBell> indeed, it is approaching 1am


[14:36] <mrblack> hi ppl can i please have some help getting cgi to work on my apache server
[14:38] <mrblack> iv added the scriptalias to the virtualhost file(unsure if that was right) and added the options and restarted, anyways navigating to http://blah.com/cgi-bin/test.pl i keep getting url not found. have i missed something?
[14:50] <mrblack> been googling and alot of examples said it goes in httpd.conf? but the file looks like the virtualhost file. is the apache.conf the httpd.conf ubuntu equivilent. im a little lost
[14:51] <leftyfb> mrblack: pastebin the output of:   ls -l /etc/apache2/conf-enabled/
[14:52] <mrblack> mrblack@ubuntu-server:/var/www/lazarus/cgi-bin$ ls -l /etc/apache2/conf-enabled
[14:52] <mrblack> total 0
[14:52] <mrblack> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 Jan 21 08:10 charset.conf -> ../conf-available/charset.conf
[14:52] <mrblack> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40 Jan 21 08:48 javascript-common.conf -> ../conf-available/javascript-common.conf
[14:52] <mrblack> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 44 Jan 21 08:10 localized-error-pages.conf -> ../conf-available/localized-error-pages.conf
[14:52] <mrblack> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 46 Jan 21 08:10 other-vhosts-access-log.conf -> ../conf-available/other-vhosts-access-log.conf
[14:52] <leftyfb> !paste | mrblack
[14:53] <leftyfb> wait till the "quiet" times out for your nick, then use pastebin
[14:55] <mrblack> https://dpaste.com/85J6STWTX
[14:55] <mrblack> sorry didnt know about the paste thing
[15:03] <mrblack> ok this serve-cgi-bin.conf looks familiar, should i remove the scriptalias i put in my virutal host file and put it here and restart?
[15:03] <leftyfb> mrblack: ok, now pastebin the output of ls -l /etc/apache2/sites-enables/   and your virtualhost file
[15:03] <mrblack> okies just a min
[15:05] <mrblack> https://dpaste.com/3KFSVJSP9
[15:06] <leftyfb> ok, now the lazarus.conf
[15:06] <mrblack> https://dpaste.com/CH977FW8Q
[15:07] <mrblack> thanks so much for your help.
[15:09] <leftyfb> mrblack: can you stick a basic .html in /var/www/lazarus/cgi-bin/ and does lazarus.com/cgi-bin/basic.html work?
[15:09] <mrblack> ill check
[15:11] <mrblack> says not found again like the script
[15:11] <mrblack> got any clues?
[15:11] <leftyfb> sounds like a permission issue
[15:11] <leftyfb> as in, the www-data user doesn't have access to /var/www/lazarus/cgi-bin
[15:12] <mrblack> yeah i was actually having trouble reading the externel css today figured i stuffed up the syntax and put it back in the main html file
[15:13] <mrblack> so do i chown everything to www-data
[15:13] <mrblack> i dont know this system very well. or im getting to old lol
[15:14] <leftyfb> www-data.www-data would be best, yes
[15:16] <mrblack> so just to clarify chown -R wwww-data /var/www/lazarus/* ?
[15:18] <leftyfb> using sudo, yes
[15:21] <mrblack> still isnt working sadly
[15:22] <mrblack> sudo chown -R www-data.www-data /var/www/lazarus/*
[15:49] <mrblack> fuck sakes i followed a guide and now iv messed up the permissions in the folder. can i have help setting /var/www the way it was and removing myself from www-data please
[16:33] <armadefuego1> mrblack. maybe we can help?
[16:33] <armadefuego1> The password would be needed. we might be able to get permissions workable, maybe not the _way it was_
[16:36] <mrblack> just got it all back the way it was and used the ubuntu doc and made my folder writable for the webmasters... i still havent got cgi working
[16:36] <armadefuego1> ( i won't need the password, but you will)
[16:36] <mrblack> not sure you can ssh to my box unless i fuck with my router
[16:36] <mrblack> is that what you mean?
[16:37] <mrblack> oh ok didnt read the part ill need it
[16:37] <mrblack> ok im ready
[16:45] <mrblack> dont know how much i have in me tonight, its nearly 4am. so annoyed i just wanted to practice scipting and im stuckk doing this
[16:50] <mrblack> its all good buddy, thanks everyone for the help. ill come back later today and check in for some help
[17:47] <mrblack> not sure anyone was here, but i fixed my problem, i had to add ServerAlias /cgi-bin/ /var/www/lazarus/cgi-bin/ where as before i had it typed ServerAlias cgi-bin /var/www/lazarus/cgi-bin
[17:47] <mrblack> very happy thanks all.


[01:32] <NothingMuchHereT> hloeung: SSO?
[01:36] <hloeung> NothingMuchHereT: single sign on - http://blog.canonical.com/2010/02/16/ubuntu-single-sign-on-service-launched/
[02:41] <TheLordOfTime> (late reply) cjwatson: my permissions comment from a long time ago was about the "Creating a new PPA" part
[02:42] <TheLordOfTime> cjwatson: not creating a new upload for a specific release inside of one already-existing PPA on a group
[02:42] <TheLordOfTime> the actual act of *creating* a new PPA
[02:42] <TheLordOfTime> cjwatson: and you've observed exactly what I identified as "odd" with their setup
[02:42] <TheLordOfTime> :)
[10:58] <cjwatson> TheLordOfTime: Yeah, I followed along eventually - sorry for the noise


[14:14] <swagner> hi, which kernel version will 22.04.2 have in the end? Will it be above 5.19.0-28.29?


[00:51] <phillw> hi good people, can I make someone aware of a bug that will land if not looked out for?
[00:55] <penguin42> best way is to file it in launchpad
[00:56] <penguin42> then mention it's bug number here
[02:48] <TheLordOfTime> phillw, file the ebug, and dump us the number.  :)
[02:48] <TheLordOfTime> (I think i know what it is though...)
[12:50] <phillw> TheLordOfTime: http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=6363


[09:52] <acheron_uk> clivejo: ping
[09:53] <acheron_uk> for http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_ark/31/parsed_console/
[09:53] <acheron_uk> maybe? http://paste.ubuntu.com/17058496/
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:53] <shadeslayer> yofel_: clivejo https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-extras/kdeconnect-plasma.git/tree/debian/control?h=kubuntu_unstable#n43
[11:53] <shadeslayer> The recommends apparently comes for the KIO plugin
[11:54] <shadeslayer> but doesn't kdeconnect-plasma have it's own?
[11:54] <yofel_> dunno, clive knows more about that
[11:54] <shadeslayer> oh Jon did that commit
[11:54] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^^
[11:55] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-extras/kdeconnect-plasma.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_unstable&id=9afacba37965f0c8cc651aab59f0c866080e9812
[11:55] <shadeslayer> Riddell: was that perhaps for KDE4 times?
[11:55] <Riddell> something like that yes
[11:56] <shadeslayer> ok, can be dropped then?
[11:56] <Riddell> I recommend using this packaging now http://packaging.neon.kde.org/cgit/kde-extras/kdeconnect.git/
[11:56] <shadeslayer> ack
[11:57] <Riddell> kdeconnect-plasma should die
[11:59] <shadeslayer> Riddell: did you update the deps in purpose et all too?
[11:59] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I think harald did most of that, probably just by merging from debian. it's all building and working fine in neon
[12:00] <shadeslayer> Depends: kdeconnect-plasma,
[12:00] <shadeslayer> it was missed
[12:00] <Riddell> hmm?
[12:00] <shadeslayer> Riddell: purpose, Neon/release branch, qml-modules-org-kde-purpose
[12:00] <shadeslayer> Depends: kdeconnect-plasma,
[12:01] <shadeslayer> that should be kdeconnect ?
[12:02] <Riddell> shadeslayer: oh yes, well spotted, I'll fix that up
[12:03] <shadeslayer> cheers
[12:11] <acheron_uk> clivejo: you pushed that change for ark. thank you
[12:27] <acheron_uk> some unstable builds are failing as they bumped ECM upstream to v 5.23. is it possible to prod KCI to rebuild ECM to pick that up?
[12:51] <clivejo> acheron_uk: no prob, Im in and out at the moment and if the patch makes sense Ill push it for you :)
[12:54] <clivejo> yofel_: I was playing with KCI yesterday and created a new job for kdeconnect on yakkety.  I copied the old job for xenial and edited the settings to build for yakkety, is that the right way to do it?
[12:54] <clivejo> also made a new view for yakkety FIX
[12:54] <yofel_> I don't know, sgclark ^
[12:55] <clivejo> Id like to add in the new packages, but unsure how to do it
[12:56] <clivejo> another think, could I purge the queue now and again to get time to work on it?
[12:56] <clivejo> thing
[12:56] <clivejo> at this rate, I only get an hour or so at night before the queue fills up and I cant do anything
[12:59] <clivejo> everythings going to fail today
[12:59] <clivejo> really is no point in building stuff
[13:02] <acheron_uk> clivejo: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_artikulate/33/
[13:02] <acheron_uk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17060493/
[13:02] <acheron_uk> possibly....
[13:13] <acheron_uk> clivejo: hmmm. I tried wrap and sort on artikulate, and it made some changes I wasn't sure off. So chickened out and reversed it
[13:13] <clivejo> wrap and sort just makes it look nice
[13:14] <clivejo> I tend to run it when I add to install files and add new build deps
[13:14] <clivejo> saves me sorting it manually :)
[13:14] <acheron_uk> yes, I think I misread some of the changes it did
[13:15] <acheron_uk> now I read it a second time I see
[13:15] <clivejo> so I have bumped ECM to 5.22, and rebuilding it
[13:15] <clivejo> reckon that will sort out those build failures?
[13:16] <acheron_uk> It 'should' sort out THAT point of failure on configure
[13:16] <yofel_> note that wrap-and-sort can misbehave if some files aren't properly formatted. So it's a good idea to review the changes it makes every time
[13:16] <acheron_uk> TY yofel :)
[13:17] <clivejo> yofel: diod you get your home internet fixed?
[13:17] <yofel> no, although it works fine ~90% of the day now
[13:18] <yofel> and I can wire through my pone for cases where I need stability
[13:18] <clivejo> yofel: any idea why these mergers are failing - http://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kactivities-stats/
[13:19] <clivejo> Seen branch in repository origin/kubuntu_stable
[13:19] <clivejo> yet checkout 'kubuntu_stable'  2>&1:error: pathspec 'kubuntu_stable' did not match any file(s) known to git. (Git::GitExecuteError)
[13:21] <yofel> hm...
[13:21] <yofel> not really. Did you try wiping the workspace?
[13:22] <clivejo> nope
[13:22] <yofel> Might just be a cache issue... I do remember seeing that in the past
[13:22] <clivejo> seems to be since we moved to LP
[13:23] <clivejo> so wipe out current workspace?
[13:24] <yofel> also
[13:24] <clivejo> yippeeee
[13:24] <yofel>                archive | backports -> stable | unstable (xenial)
[13:24] <yofel> [E] merger: There is no stable or unstable branch!
[13:24] <yofel> shouldn't it only be doing that for yakkety?
[13:25] <yofel> or am I misremembering something?
[13:25] <clivejo> I dont know how to config that
[13:25] <clivejo> with ECM we only build unstable
[13:26] <clivejo> so how does the ECM get copied over into the stable PPA?
[13:26] <clivejo> it seems to be automatic for xenial, but not yakkety
[13:28] <clivejo> that should be plasma-discover ?
[15:11] <acheron_uk> ^^^ cheer :)
[15:11] <clivejo> congrats!
[15:15] <acheron_uk> small victory, but getting there
[15:34] <clivejo> we seem to have discover and plasma-discover, how do I delete the discovery merger and projects
[18:08] <sgclark> clivejo: yofel no creating new projects involves  creating the unstabe and stable branches add them to https://github.com/ScarlettGatelyClark/pangea-tooling/blob/master/ci-tooling/data/projects/ and running update-projects.rb ruby script. Honestly You shoud fork that.
[18:09] <sgclark> I don't know that I will have time to maintain that anymore :(
[18:09] <sgclark> stable in fact is still broken.
[18:10] <clivejo> yeah yakkety stable doesnt seem to be working properly
[18:10] <sgclark> might want to disable it all together till someone can fix the code to work without namespaces
[18:11] <sgclark> launchpad does not allow for shh logins so large chunks of sitters code does not work with launchpad I am afraid
[18:11] <clivejo> so you fork BlueSystems repo?
[18:11] <sgclark> I did yeah
[18:11] <sgclark> you can fork my fork though
[18:11] <clivejo> how do you push that back to KCI?
[18:12] <sgclark> you can ssh to kci right?
[18:12] <clivejo> I dont know, never tried it
[18:12] <sgclark> actually no need.
[18:13] <sgclark> fork my fork, then in kci jenkins settings change the url to your new fork
[18:13] <sgclark> a suggestion: create a kubuntu profile
[18:13] <clivejo> if its a git repo cant we move that to LP git to have everything in the same place?
[18:14] <sgclark> I do not see why not. THat is probably the best plan
[18:15] <clivejo> what happens to projects made from within Jenkins?
[18:15] <sgclark> I reckon they go poof when run that script? not sure sitter would know.
[18:16] <sgclark> maybe not.
[18:16] <clivejo> for example I made a new kdeconnect-plasma for yakkety by copying the xenial one and changing the build settings and workspace
[18:16] <clivejo> http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdeconnect-plasma/
[18:17] <clivejo> does the script reverse the projects to?
[18:18] <sgclark> I don't know sorry.
[18:18] <clivejo> ie next time the box is rebooted etc, will that project disappear
[18:19] <clivejo> Im keen to learn how it works, but for our setup there is very little documentation
[18:19] <clivejo> did you learn by doing and asking Harald?
[18:20] <sgclark> nah I would think not. I reckon you can do everything in jenkins if that is your desire. But fixing the scripts to automate would likely be the best going forward solution for the long run.
[18:21] <clivejo> Im just afraid of fixing stuff which will be lost if a script is run
[18:21] <sgclark> that is entirely possible.
[18:21] <clivejo> need to fix it properly, not just a temp patch
[18:22] <sgclark> like I said, most of that brilliance is sitters. So he will need to answer these questions sorry :(
[18:22] <clivejo> also need to understand the mechanism that copies unstable binaries into stable
[18:23] <sgclark> Yeah that is totally broken
[18:23] <clivejo> only for yakkety
[18:23] <clivejo> xenial seems to be still ok
[18:24] <sgclark> all his code used namespaces aka debian git structure. I tried to fix it. And failed. I did not have time to succeed sorry. Ruby is not my expertise yet.
[18:24] <clivejo> do you know if the source git is retained?
[18:24] <clivejo> source code
[18:24] <sgclark> I do not understand the quetsion sorry.
[18:25] <sgclark> err question
[18:25] <clivejo> well the debian packaging git seems to be held locally in the workspace
[18:25] <sgclark> basically what is happening is it is pulling kde master and using packaging for the release, hense failure.
[18:25] <clivejo> I was wondering if the KDE Source code git has a local copy too
[18:26] <sgclark> again, this is sitters code. He will need to help here.
[18:26] <clivejo> okay :)
[18:27] <clivejo> just thinking outloud :)
[18:27] <sgclark> it had something to do with overrides
[18:27] <clivejo> how the Debian work going?
[18:27] <sgclark> no worries.
[18:27] <clivejo> you having fun?
[18:27] <sgclark> It is good so far
[18:28] <clivejo> Im glad :)
[18:28] <clivejo> I hope you teach us all you learn :)
[18:31] <clivejo> acheron_uk: Can you see why this is failing?  http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kcalcore/
[18:33] <clivejo> sgclark: where do you point KCI to your github fork?
[18:34] <sgclark> jenkins settings
[18:34] <clivejo> Manage Jenkins?
[19:40] <clivejo> looks like KCI died a horrible death
[21:51] <jimarvan> helloz :)
[21:51] <clivejo> hi jimarvan
[22:12] <clivejo> theres LP crapping out again