[12:01] <ItsMeLenny> enter doesnt enable? gah ffs, now what do i do
[12:01] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, No worries, let the install finish.
[12:01] <hitsujiTMO> cvtsx: yes. using a graphical interface on a server is much slower that using commandline for most tasks. servers are optimised to be controlled from commandline
[12:01] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, no Space-bar selects.
[12:01] <ItsMeLenny> does this mean i'll have to use apt >_<
[12:01] <SaberX01> No
[12:01] <SaberX01> Your gonna use Tasksel
[12:02] <ItsMeLenny> ah
[12:02] <cvtsx> ok thanks, this is my first time running a server (if you havent noticed lool)
[12:02] <SaberX01> Same Menu as you just saw.
[12:02] <SaberX01> = Tasksel
[12:02] <ItsMeLenny> didnt know i could bring it back
[12:02] <SaberX01> cvtsx, Yeah, we kinda got that impression :-) is ok, everyone isn the same boat at some point.
[12:02] <hitsujiTMO> cvtsx: plus, to do any configuration you'll just be opening the terminal anyway? why add that unnecessary layer of complexity by installing a graphical environment?
[12:03] <cvtsx> xD
[12:03] <ItsMeLenny> i'll be a pro server user by the time 14.04 comes out
[12:03] <cvtsx> yeah
[12:03] <ItsMeLenny> then again, 12.04 server is supported til the end of ages
[12:03] <cvtsx> lool lenny you setting up a server also?
[12:03] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, you can use tasksel on your desktop installs too .. just nobody thinks about it.
[12:03] <ItsMeLenny> cvtsx, yeah, convinced by SaberX01, after the desktop failed massively multiple times, im not a happy camper right now :P
[12:03] <SaberX01> cvtsx, He's installing the srver CD, then adding a Desktop to it.
[12:04] <cvtsx> o
[12:04] <cfhowlett> ItsMeLenny, 2017 is the end of ages?  good to know ...
[12:04] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, i never knew what it was called, i would just use synaptiv
[12:04] <cvtsx> i just used the handy dandy windows installer
[12:04] <ItsMeLenny> cfhowlett, yeah, its the ubuntu calender, thats when the world ends
[12:04] <cvtsx> lool
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> cvtsx  wubi?
[12:04] <cvtsx> yes
[12:04] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, Yep, in xterm, sudo tasksel .. gives you all sorts of easy install / removal options.
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> cvtsx  mind: that's a windows application, not a real installation and more lilited than one
[12:05] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, this grub, if i install to master boot record, will it install to /dev/sdd or will it go onto my important file hard drive and break everything
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> limited*
[12:05] <cvtsx> really? in what way?
[12:05] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, yes, install the MBR
[12:05] <cfhowlett> cvtsx, wubi is unstable on its best day.  PLUS it's being downgraded/discontinued and not recommended for anything other than TESTING ubuntu
[12:06] <SaberX01> Then Grub Becomes your boot manager.
[12:06] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, install to the MBR, i dont want it to end up on /dev/sda tho
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> cvtsx  for one, it cannot be upgraded and it sits inside windows, not alongside and independent of it
[12:06] <cvtsx> hhmmm should i delete the partition i got and make a new one/install it manually?
[12:06] <cfhowlett> cvtsx, if you're not going to dual boot, at least consider virtualbox.  You're server will thank you.
[12:06] <cvtsx> i am dual booting
[12:06] <cfhowlett> cvtsx, wubi is NOT dual booting
[12:06] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, Whats on /dev/sda ?
[12:07] <ItsMeLenny> CRAP IT TRIED TO
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> cvtsx  wubi means 'will ultimatley be ineffective'
[12:07] <ItsMeLenny> my important files are on /dev/sda
[12:07] <cvtsx> lool how is not dual booting? i didnt know this ;(
[12:07] <ItsMeLenny> hyperventilating
[12:08] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, You already gone through the partitioning section?
[12:08] <cfhowlett> cvtsx, as monkeydust pointed out ... PLUS you seem to be ignoring that wubi, by design, if for TESTING, not for long-term installation or use
[12:08] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, yeah
[12:08] <ItsMeLenny> that was ages ago
[12:08] <bamphomet> howdy
[12:08] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, You shoudl be Ok, MBR not gonna wipe your data files.
[12:09] <ItsMeLenny> pretty sure the OS installed on /dev/sdd
[12:09] <cvtsx> o man xD. i rarely use my ubuntu partition anyways
[12:09] <ItsMeLenny> it failed when it tried to
[12:09] <cvtsx> but i will delete it and install manually
[12:09] <ItsMeLenny> on /dev/sda
[12:09] <cvtsx> anyways with putty should i use a sock 5 proxy?
[12:09] <ItsMeLenny> ok its installing to dev sdd
[12:09] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, Yes, the /boot /root /home etc etc, that's where you files would get whiped out from.
[12:09] <ItsMeLenny> but now i am shitting myself, maybe literally
[12:09] <ItsMeLenny> oh
[12:10] <SaberX01> You in good shape then
[12:10] <ItsMeLenny> all my files are straight on, "no partition"
[12:10] <ItsMeLenny> the 2 file hard drives i have
[12:10] <ItsMeLenny> have no partition
[12:11] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, installation is complete, should i reboot it, or should i "go back" to install more files
[12:11] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, I'd have to research this but normall the MBR is on the first drive found, /dev/sda ... but that' doesn't mean you have to install the OS there, you can do as you've done, /dev/sdd
[12:11] <ItsMeLenny> i never have the MBR on the first drive
[12:11] <ItsMeLenny> because of the odd way my computer numbers the drives
[12:12] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, Yes, pull the install media and boot.
[12:13] <ItsMeLenny> ooooh, linux kernel 3.8 on server?
[12:13] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, then once your at terminal prompt, login, then update and upgrade before Tasksel
[12:14] <ItsMeLenny> oh, its using the raring kernel?
[12:14] <SaberX01> dont worry about that yet
[12:14] <ItsMeLenny> thats fine, i needed a later kernel
[12:14] <SaberX01> lets get logged in then update && upgrade
[12:14] <ItsMeLenny> doing so now
[12:14] <ItsMeLenny> i used apt
[12:14] <SaberX01> after the upgrade, we'll do Tasksel ... install your Desktop .. then reboot.
[12:15] <ItsMeLenny> i use cinnamon instead of unity, so i wonder if it would be better to just install cinnamon rather than ubuntu desktop
[12:15] <ItsMeLenny> and if that is the case i should add the cinnamon ppa
[12:15] <SaberX01> then update && dist-upgrade for the latest Kernel
[12:15] <Abhijit> hi. i get error FATAL -> Failed to fork. while trying to install any package. 12.04. help.
[12:15] <ItsMeLenny> should i reboot after the upgrade
[12:16] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, dont do any PPA's until after we get a working Ubuntu Desktop
[12:16] <SaberX01> or LDXE / XFCE
[12:16] <ItsMeLenny> yeah, but im saying, because i dont use any of them ultimately, i use cinnamon from linux mint
[12:16] <SaberX01> I can't help with that one.
[12:16] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, ah ok, i'll just do it this way
[12:17] <ItsMeLenny> should i reboot after upgrade for the new kernel?
[12:17] <SaberX01> did you do update && upgrade?
[12:17] <ItsMeLenny> its just finishing the upgrade part
[12:18] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, ok then do: sudo tasksel
[12:18] <cvtsx> ok so i got my private putty key (.ppk) and am connected to the server
[12:18] <ItsMeLenny> before a reboot/
[12:18] <cvtsx> its asking "log in as", what do i do?
[12:18] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, then arrow down to ubuntu-desktop, hit space-bar, then TAB to OK
[12:18] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, ok, we'll see how large it is :P
[12:19] <cvtsx> nvm i found some documentation ;)
[12:19] <ItsMeLenny> whys there an ubuntu desktop usb
[12:19] <yash069> Abhijit: ram problem. ur all ram & swap is full. upgrade ur ram, or kill some unwanted processes
[12:19] <ItsMeLenny> 2d/3d creation and editing suite
[12:19] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, I dont know .. but you need that working first, then we can do the dist-upgrade from within Ubuntu Desktop
[12:19] <ItsMeLenny> interesting stuff in there
[12:20] <ItsMeLenny> so just "ubuntu desktop"
[12:20] <SaberX01> After you install a desktop, there's allot more available in Tasksel
[12:20] <ItsMeLenny> or does it have to have a - in between because that not in there
[12:20] <ItsMeLenny> ah
[12:20] <SaberX01> Yes ubuntu-desktop
[12:20] <ItsMeLenny> oh
[12:20] <ItsMeLenny> theres no ubuntu-desktop
[12:20] <SaberX01> Space Bar, tab to OK
[12:20] <ItsMeLenny> only ubuntu desktop
[12:20] <ItsMeLenny> and ubuntu desktop usb
[12:20] <SaberX01> Use Arrow key to go below whats visable
[12:21] <ItsMeLenny> its all visible
[12:21] <SaberX01> and no ubuntu desktop ?
[12:21] <ItsMeLenny> should i do "manual package selection" will it be in there?
[12:21] <ItsMeLenny> theres "ubuntu desktop" but none thats "ubuntu-desktop"
[12:21] <SaberX01> select "ubuntu desktop"
[12:22] <ItsMeLenny> lol ok, sorry :p
[12:22] <SaberX01> with space bar, then tab to OK, then enter.
[12:22] <SaberX01> then go grab a beer, gonna be a while,
[12:22] <ItsMeLenny> i hit enter, not tab
[12:22] <ObrienDave> 2 beers
[12:22] <ItsMeLenny> and now its pushed the screen up
[12:22] <SaberX01> prob like 250MB or so Id guess.
[12:22] <VanessaE> well I give up.  3.5 kernel did no good.  newest video driver too.  this stupid thing just refuses to properly enter S3 suspend.
[12:22] <VanessaE> (or rather, it shuts off when it should sleep)
[12:23] <ItsMeLenny> save me SaberX01 i broke it
[12:23] <SaberX01> You can't break it :-)
[12:23] <mobeguy> hi guys
[12:23] <ItsMeLenny> oh, now it says "extracting templates from packages"
[12:23] <ItsMeLenny> pretty sure i broke it :P
[12:23] <ObrienDave> ItsMeLenny, patience ;P
[12:23] <mobeguy> since a few days I always get a "system program problem detected" message whenever I start my computer. How can I find out what causes that?
[12:23] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, is you selected the ubuntu desktop, it's rolling, sit back and relax :-)
[12:24] <ItsMeLenny> oh, its working :P
[12:24] <SaberX01> Indeed :-)
[12:24] <ItsMeLenny> 965 packages
[12:24] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, you realise this is exactly what i wanted to avoid :P because of how slow the internet is
[12:25] <mobeguy_> sorry, firefox keeps crashing on me all the time too.
[12:25] <ItsMeLenny> mobeguy, yeah my firefox would continusouly crash aswell, even after updates, dunno what the hell is wrong with it
[12:25] <ItsMeLenny> mobeguy_, ^
[12:26] <mobeguy_> ItsMeLenny: so its not just me, phew :D
[12:26] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, all of the installs download some from the internet, mayeb this way it's a bit more, but, we have a working shell, which is important.
[12:26] <ItsMeLenny> mobeguy_, i had multiple versions after versions, so many pages would crash it, might be the newer firefoxes?
[12:27] <mobeguy_> ItsMeLenny: possible. but I can use another browser if it gets worse, so that's not my main concern even though its annoying
[12:27] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, yeah but if i have the ubuntu-desktop in the iso already means i can install it multiple times without having to download each time
[12:27] <ItsMeLenny> mobeguy_, mine got annoying :P
[12:27] <mobeguy_> ItsMeLenny: I am more worried about the random "system program problem detected" at every startup. Is there a way to find out what causes it?
[12:28] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, well that be true, but I could walk you through this install with my eyes closed, and the sucess rate is normally very high.
[12:28] <ItsMeLenny> mobeguy_, is that in firefox?
[12:28] <ItsMeLenny> mobeguy_, ive never experienced that
[12:28] <mobeguy_> ItsMeLenny: no, that is a system message. not related to firefox i assume
[12:28] <Abhijit> yash069, ok
[12:29] <mobeguy_> ItsMeLenny: I only said that about firefox because it just kicked me out of the channel (am using webchat right  now)
[12:29] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, yeah, this way seems more stable than the livecds, i just shouldnt have borked my system in the first place, all to try to get GTA:SA to run in wine, because it used to! then no idea why it doesnt anymore
[12:29] <yash069> Abhijit: also you might be out of PIDs. if not ram
[12:29] <ItsMeLenny> mobeguy_, yeah i thought as much, you should be able to get mobeguy back now
[12:30] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, Install server ... add desktop, can't get much easier than that.
[12:30] <cvtsx> ok cool i on my vps through putty
[12:30] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, true, but what would be easier is, install server with desktop :P
[12:30] <ItsMeLenny> i could always make my own iso
[12:30] <cvtsx> and to install znc all i do is 'sudo apt-get install znc'
[12:31] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, well you went too fast first time around or we'd be doing that :-)
[12:31] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, true, but the desktop would still have to download right?
[12:31] <Abhijit> yash069, there is limit on PIDs? Why would anyone put limit on PIDs? How Do i remove that limit?
[12:31] <SaberX01> Yes
[12:31] <ItsMeLenny> :P
[12:31] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, thanks very much for the help btw
[12:32] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, I do install testing for Ubuntu-QA, and after 100's if not 1000's of installs, this method, I can assure you works :-)
[12:32] <cvtsx> yeah saber thx for initially helping me with the vps (when it was obv i had no idea what i am doing)
[12:33] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, May not be the fastest, but normally delivers the goods. And if you have FGLX issues, you knwo you have a workign shell you cna seal wiht it in.
[12:33] <Abhijit> yash069, ?
[12:33] <yash069> Abhijit: cat /proc/sys/kernel/pid_max
[12:33] <win5hit> hi there, Merry Christmas!
[12:33] <SaberX01> can deal .. ..
[12:34] <Abhijit> yash069, 32768
[12:34] <ItsMeLenny> umm SaberX01... i walked away from the computer, and now that i came back, the screen is black
[12:34] <ObrienDave> press a key, rattle the mouse
[12:34] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, we could have just used: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop .. but wanted you to see how Tasksel works.
[12:35] <cvtsx> and to install znc all i do is 'sudo apt-get install znc'
[12:35] <ItsMeLenny> oh, the key press worked
[12:35] <ItsMeLenny> :P
[12:35] <SaberX01> :-)
[12:35] <yash069> that enough, i guess.... paste ur free 's output http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[12:35] <yash069> ^, Abhijit
[12:35] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, yeah i thought as much about that, but i wanted to see how tasksel works also :P
[12:35] <SaberX01> Arrow keys good to bring that back.
[12:35] <ObrienDave> screensaver, gets 'em every time ROFL
[12:35] <ItsMeLenny> apt-get would probably give me more details about how big this download is
[12:35] <win5hit> i'd like to create a ramdisk within a ubuntu 13.10 desktop 64 booted from usb stick(live). my question is: is ubuntu (live) using a ramdisk? can i use /dev/ram0?
[12:36] <ItsMeLenny> ObrienDave, but it was in tasksel, didnt know their was a screensaver
[12:36] <Abhijit> yash069, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6633943/
[12:36] <win5hit>  (It's not listed under mounted volumes... but there maybe magic somewhere)
[12:36] <ItsMeLenny> and i was afraid spaicebar would somehow cancel it
[12:36] <cvtsx> ok i need a little help ;)
[12:36] <ItsMeLenny> win5hit, are you actually win five hit, or is your name actually how i keep seeing it
[12:37] <ObrienDave> ItsMeLenny, not laughing at you, bud. afaik, there is always a screensaver active until you turn it off
[12:38] <yash069> Abhijit: y u no have swap ?
[12:38] <Tachyon`> hi, does this channel deal with the new ubuntu for android devices or just the more traditional sort?
[12:38] <Abhijit> yash069, rackspace installed all this for me. ddnt asked me for swap.
[12:38] <yash069> you shoud always have a swap partion of 2.5x of ur RAM
[12:38] <ItsMeLenny> ObrienDave, even in terminal?
[12:38] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, Thosr taskse menu's are ncurses Whiptail or Dialog .. I sue them allot for scripts used in CLI env.
[12:38] <ItsMeLenny> there was never one in DOS
[12:39] <ObrienDave> ItsMeLenny, you are NOT running DOS anymore ;P
[12:39] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, helps with those that are truly CLI challenged.
[12:39] <Rory> !touch | Tachyon`
[12:39] <ItsMeLenny> :P
[12:39] <cvtsx> i installed znc (sudo apt-get install znc/precise-backports znc-dbg/precise-backports znc-dev/precise-backports znc-extra/precise-backports znc-perl/precise-backports znc-python/precise-backports znc-tcl/precise-backports) but get this error http://i.imgur.com/8bL5k7V.png
[12:39] <Tachyon`> ah, thankyou
[12:39] <Rory> cvtsx: That's now how you install znc
[12:39] <cvtsx> well not error, just packages arent found
[12:39] <win5hit> ItsMeLenny: hi there, my nick is not ment to be "offensive". it's back from those dasy when u had to boot windows from dos by entering "win"... and if u did something wrong in the config(or drivers e.g. mscdex) it was immediately followed by "shit"... thats all.
[12:40] <ItsMeLenny> ObrienDave, my first computer was DOS, despite the fact of being on linux for quite a few years now, my roots are in DOS, compaq prolinea 1994 windows 3.1
[12:40] <cvtsx> Rory: it didnt find some of the packages though
[12:40] <Rory> cvtsx: Where told you to run that command? Those are package repositories
[12:40] <cfhowlett> !touch|Tachyon`,
[12:40] <tsimpson> cvtsx: did you actually enable backports first?
[12:40] <cvtsx> http://wiki.znc.in/Installation#Ubuntu_12.04
[12:40] <cfhowlett> Tachyon`, this channel is for laptop/desktop installation
[12:40] <ItsMeLenny> win5hit, :P i didnt find it offensive regardless, just curious
[12:40] <cvtsx> tsimposon: nope, i am new to servers and such
[12:40] <cvtsx> how do i do that?
[12:41] <tsimpson> cvtsx: you need to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and either uncomment the lines with precise-backports (if it's there) or add them if not
[12:41] <cvtsx> all i did was c/p that command
[12:41] <win5hit> ItsMeLenny: just to clarify things... ;) i get asked a lot... most expect troll or smthg...
[12:41] <tsimpson> cvtsx: uncomment means remove the leading '#' character
[12:41] <cvtsx> yeah, but how do i access it
[12:42] <win5hit> back to the ramdisk.... i did a lsof | grep /dev/ram... nothing showed up... so i think i can use it?!
[12:42] <tsimpson> cvtsx: you probably have nano installed, so "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list", edit the file and use Ctrl-O to save and Ctrl-X to exit
[12:43] <cvtsx> thanks
[12:43] <yash069> Abhijit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[12:43] <jamesarnett> Has anyone here ever used bootcamp to load ubuntu on a MacBook Pro
[12:43] <cfhowlett> !mac|jamesarnett,
[12:43] <jamesarnett> Awesome man thanks
[12:44] <jamesarnett> cfhowlett: hahaha yeah but in my defense i bought a 3 month old macbook pro with a warranty for 300
[12:44] <ItsMeLenny> win5hit, i just thought you thought windows was shit, and i probably wouldve agreed :P
[12:44] <SaberX01> Probably gonna be alott of MacDaddy Q's today with all the new toys out there.
[12:44] <Abhijit> yash069, ok
[12:44] <Lucid_Lynx> Hi, how do i reset the gnome-panel ?
[12:44] <cvtsx> tsimpson: The only comments that were there wasnt anything important, just explanations
[12:44] <cvtsx> everything that looked useful was uncommented
[12:45] <Lucid_Lynx> gnome-panel --reset ?
[12:45] <SaberX01> cvtsx, you done an update && upgrade ?
[12:45] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, its finished downloading, 25 minutes later?, guess thats not so bad
[12:45] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, not bad if it works :-)
[12:45] <Lucid_Lynx> man gnome-panel does not mention...
[12:45] <cvtsx> nope saber
[12:46] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, :P if this doesnt work, its your head
[12:46] <cfhowlett> jamesarnett, from what I've read (having not joined the fruity computer club) full support for the new toys lags until the hacks are figured out by the community.
[12:46] <SaberX01> cvtsx, on UBuntu, before installing SW and things, shouls always do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:46] <cvtsx> tsimpson: here ya go http://i.imgur.com/Bs31487.png
[12:46] <cfhowlett> cvtsx, and probably even sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   ^^^
[12:47] <jamesarnett> cfhowlett: Yes i have read the same stuff
[12:47] <cvtsx> saberx01 kk thanks, il keep that in my mind ;)
[12:47] <tsimpson> cvtsx: at the bottom of the image you see lines with precise-backports
[12:47] <tsimpson> uncomment them
[12:47] <jamesarnett> cfhowlett: nice punn!!
[12:47] <cfhowlett> jamesarnett, seems you got a deal ... it fell of a truck?
[12:47] <SaberX01> cvtsx, Update brings your source list up to date, upgrade updates the packages.
[12:47] <jamesarnett> cfhowlett: probably spelt that wrong
[12:47] <cvtsx> k thanks guys
[12:48] <jamesarnett> cfhowlett: i dont think the person knew what they had? they got it for cheap through a school deal
[12:48] <cvtsx> tsimpson: i missed that, thanks
[12:49] <SaberX01> you should be good after enabling bakports .. znc is showing up in the repos
[12:49] <cvtsx> tsimpson: so should i uncomment all those packages?
[12:50] <SaberX01> but you have to to the update before it will show
[12:50] <tsimpson> cvtsx: the two lines with precise-backports, yes
[12:50] <cvtsx> i updated, thanks saber ;)
[12:51] <SaberX01> tsimpson, ap-cache show znc says it's in universe/net ...?
[12:53] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, not hearing any screams from your direction, desktop working?
[12:53] <cvtsx> save it in what format?
[12:53] <tsimpson> SaberX01: universe is the section of the repository the package is in, backports is the repository with the latest version
[12:54] <Lucid_Lynx> k, got it..
[12:54] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, still installing
[12:54] <ItsMeLenny> your safe for another 33% :P
[12:54] <SaberX01> tsimpson, I see, how can I see that on the package info itself ?
[12:54] <cvtsx> http://i.imgur.com/oxBwiXg.png
[12:54] <cvtsx> which one?
[12:55] <SaberX01> hit enter
[12:55] <cvtsx> xD
[12:55] <ItsMeLenny> ObrienDave, screensavers scared me 3 times now :P
[12:55] <tsimpson> SaberX01: if you look at "apt-cache policy znc" it should list all the versions and repositories
[12:55] <cvtsx> now should i try and reinstall znc? i have updated and added backports
[12:56] <SaberX01> tsimpson, rr thanks will ahve a look
[12:56] <ObrienDave> ItsMeLenny, LOL ;)
[12:57] <ObrienDave> ItsMeLenny, my 1st computer was a C-64 ;P
[12:57] <ItsMeLenny> what kind of chip was in that? a dorito
[12:57] <ObrienDave> 6502 iirc
[12:57] <ArchSurf> lol
[12:57] <cvtsx> damn, my first was an imac g3
[12:58] <SaberX01> tsimpson, yup that shows it clearly .. backport is 1.0.2 ..
[12:58] <SaberX01> TRS-80 wiht a big ole Tape Drive and Dual Floppoes, thought I was top of the rock then.
[12:58] <ObrienDave> ItsMeLenny, I had a FORTRAN programming class in 1971. we used REAL punched cards. ROFL
[12:58] <SaberX01> and HP-920 to that was cools.
[12:59] <cvtsx> my first was an imac g3 but thats after they were discontuned for 3 years
[12:59] <SaberX01> ObrienDave, you was around then wiht the 8080 Xe's and such.
[12:59] <SaberX01> big ole 10" / 12" floppy's :-)
[12:59] <ObrienDave> oh yea, i remember when they were brand new :)
[13:00] <ObrienDave> 8" floppies
[13:00] <SaberX01> Yeah somethign like that, jsut rememebr they were huge
[13:01] <ObrienDave> 140K on a floppy. iirc
[13:02] <SaberX01> Im trying to remember the first DB I wrote .. was a weather collection DB written in Dbase-1 or II can't recall which.
[13:02] <ItsMeLenny> ObrienDave, anything interesting that you programmed on those punch cards?
[13:02] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, it finished! now what?
[13:02] <SaberX01> I'd reboot.
[13:02] <ObrienDave> na, i was a freshman in high school then
[13:02] <SaberX01> then when the desktop comes up .. open xterm and if you want, dist-upgrade
[13:03] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, will it boot straight in, or do i have to do startx
[13:03] <SaberX01> Shoutl boot to lightdm
[13:03] <SaberX01> login screen
[13:03] <ItsMeLenny> what is dist-upgrade for?
[13:03] <SaberX01> Upgrades the Kernel to the latest 12.04.3 Kernel
[13:04] <ItsMeLenny> oh
[13:04] <ItsMeLenny> WOOT! no more purple ubuntu screen
[13:04] <ItsMeLenny> that's a releif
[13:04] <ObrienDave> I use dist-updrade always
[13:04] <neongas> Is it possible to just put entire .deb packages in incoming directory of reprepro? I don't have the .changes files for the packages I want to add.
[13:04] <SaberX01> whish is like 3.5.0-44 or there abouts.
[13:04] <ItsMeLenny> omg so beautiful! this was when unity was a bit better, more responsive
[13:04] <ObrienDave> *dist-upgrade
[13:05] <cvtsx> ok i am stuck, i tried doing what tsimp said and i am still not getting it to work
[13:05] <SaberX01> ObrienDave, I dont, I do the upgrades first, then, selectively upgrade the kernels, and read on any critical issues first normally.
[13:06] <cvtsx> if this means anything i did cntrl+s after i uncommented those packages
[13:06] <ObrienDave> not me, dang the torpedos, full steam ahead!
[13:06] <SaberX01> LOL
[13:06] <XATRIX> Hi, i want to copy /etc/corosync/authkey to another server, i do sudo /etc/corosync/authkey vox2-ua:/etc/corosync
[13:06] <XATRIX> it asks me a root password
[13:06] <XATRIX> Which one should i specify ?
[13:06] <SaberX01> cvtsx, easy way to use Nano: open the file, edit, Ctrl+x .. then Y to save.
[13:07] <cvtsx> k will cntrl+s do anything?
[13:07] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, does update manager update the kernels anyway?
[13:07] <ObrienDave> update manager will from GUI
[13:07] <SaberX01> I don't think so. Synaptic Upd Manager does .
[13:08] <ItsMeLenny> omg, what is the server password D=
[13:08] <SaberX01> I take that back, depends on yoru selections. I never use it, so not up on all the optins really.
[13:08] <ObrienDave> apt-get update will not do kernels from CLI
[13:08] <ItsMeLenny> ah
[13:08] <cvtsx> brb in 2 mins
[13:08] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, You get booted into UB Desktop ?
[13:09] <cvtsx> also still not found ;( and i uncommented everything although i proabably shouldnt have
[13:09] <cvtsx> anyways to revert back to default?
[13:09] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, yeah
[13:09] <ItsMeLenny> but the root password isnt my password
[13:09] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny,  :-) ok .. Im off the hook now .. lol
[13:09] <SaberX01> you shoudl not be using root
[13:09] <ItsMeLenny> lol yes you are, thank you very much
[13:10] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, im not, but when i want to...
[13:10] <ItsMeLenny> when i want to gksu something
[13:10] <SaberX01> 99.999 of the time is sudo
[13:10] <ObrienDave> ItsMeLenny, use sudo, it's much safer
[13:10] <ItsMeLenny> but when i gksu nautilus
[13:10] <ItsMeLenny> or what not
[13:10] <SaberX01> ok, there's a difference between sudo and root, dont use root.
[13:10] <ItsMeLenny> i was told always use gksu for gui stuff
[13:10] <ItsMeLenny> oh
[13:11] <SaberX01> gksu is sudo, that's ok.
[13:11] <cvtsx> SaberX01: anyways to revert to default?
[13:11] <SaberX01> you can leave backports uncommented, did you do an update after saving your source list?
[13:12] <manish_> Hello everybody
[13:12] <cvtsx> yeah still didnt get anything lool
[13:12] <cfhowlett> manish_, greetings
[13:12] <cvtsx> i would like to just start off clean and retry
[13:12] <SaberX01> that's very odd, as it's in the standard repos as well.
[13:12] <cvtsx> do everything correctly this time
[13:12] <ObrienDave> clean, as in repos?
[13:13] <cvtsx> clean install
[13:13] <ItsMeLenny> gotta install my nvidia drivers
[13:13] <SaberX01> maybe, but trt: sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get clean
[13:13] <SaberX01> then sudo apt-get update
[13:13] <cvtsx> what will that do?
[13:14] <SaberX01> clean downloaded files, clean your apt-cache, and update the cache list again
[13:14] <cfhowlett> cvtsx, and apt-get autoremove
[13:14] <SaberX01> that gets rid of uneeded dep files
[13:14] <cvtsx> well saber i am just worried because i kinda uncommented some stuff i am pretty sure i shouldnt have
[13:14] <siwica> how do I format a usb drive?
[13:14] <siwica> (command line)
[13:15] <ice9> only Nautilus window title bar disappeared, how to fix it?
[13:15] <cvtsx> i just want to format then start right
[13:15] <SaberX01> cfhowlett, maybe you cna help, he tryign to install znc but it's not being found.
[13:15] <ItsMeLenny> on reboot my computer froze in the bios, why does that happen
[13:15] <manish_> siwica: try sudo mkfs.vfat -v /dev/<sd?>
[13:15] <manish_> siwica: where /dev/sdx is your device node
[13:15] <ItsMeLenny> and now on boot my computer just randomly rebooted
[13:15] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, that Im not sure about.
[13:16] <cfhowlett> SaberX01, worst case: go to the package site, grab the deb and dpkg -i
[13:16] <ItsMeLenny> must be the power in this house, the motherboard is meant to have expensive caps
[13:16] <ItsMeLenny> maybe its the power supply actually
[13:16] <SaberX01> You may have some hardware issues there somwhere... maybe PSU glitch or something?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> ItsMeLenny, random reboots are a sign of potential serious issue.  suggest you devote some effort to the fixing thereof
[13:17] <SaberX01> cfhowlett, Is not me is cvtsx needs it, is what we're trying to get done fer him.
[13:17] <ItsMeLenny> i originally had an expensive corsair power supply which blew up, and the shop replaced it under warranty with a different brand for one half the value, an antec i think, which are still good, but
[13:17] <cvtsx> i am pretty sure i (you) got it. THANKS ;)
[13:18] <cvtsx> installed (pretty sure) ;)
[13:18] <ItsMeLenny> cfhowlett, yeah but sometimes they never happen, replaced my seagates multiple times as they had bad sectors, now on WD, but when it doesnt even get to the HDD musnt be it, on top of that theres issues with the power in this house
[13:18] <SaberX01> Cool !
[13:18] <cvtsx> how to set up znc is the question now ;)
[13:18] <cfhowlett> ItsMeLenny, get a good surge suppressor sounds like ...
[13:18] <ObrienDave> ^^^ agrees
[13:19] <ice9> nautilus and settings windows border are broken like this one: http://askubuntu.com/questions/362247/nautilus-header-bar-missing-ubuntu-gnome-13-10-gnome-3-10
[13:19] <ItsMeLenny> that might be a good idea
[13:20] <ItsMeLenny> theyve screwed up nautilus in the latest ubuntu, and the disk utiltiy
[13:20] <SaberX01> cvtsx, to test if a package is installed, couple simple one liners:  dpkg -s <packagename> or dpkg-query -l <packagename>
[13:20] <SaberX01> You can get allot more fancy, but that's a quick one.
[13:21] <cvtsx> what would be the package name?
[13:22] <SaberX01> cvtsx, Example: dpkg -s znc
[13:22] <SaberX01> or dpkg-query -l znc
[13:22] <cvtsx> lol k i put znc in between the '<>'
[13:22] <cvtsx> thats why i was getting an error
[13:23] <cvtsx> do you got any resources to learn cmd line for ubuntu?
[13:23] <SaberX01> cvtsx, here's install & config info: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-znc-an-irc-bouncer-on-an-ubuntu-vps
[13:23] <SaberX01> !manual | cvsx
[13:23] <SaberX01> Has a good entry level sectoin and a more advanced section.
[13:23] <cvtsx> thanks saber ;)
[13:25] <solarradiation> how do i adjust my usb hard drive's time-before-spinning down?
[13:25] <cfhowlett> cvtsx, "the linux command line" and "the ubuntu pocket guide" are free .pdf
[13:25] <cvtsx> il check them out, thanks
[13:26] <ice9> the global menu items are inactive, in all applications
[13:26] <SaberX01> There's lots of them ... bash and CLI abound these days.
[13:27] <Rory> solarradiation: Take a look at "hdparm" - "sudo hdparm -I /dev/sdb | grep level" will show you the current spin-down time for /dev/sdb
[13:27] <Rory> solarradiation: more info here http://askubuntu.com/a/39764
[13:27] <SaberX01> ItsMeLenny, Ok you all up and running .. and cvtsx on his way, Im gonna go catch a nap, Ho Ho Ho stuff starting here soon, CUAL
[13:28] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, certainly am, it feels more stable than regular desktop, that might be a placebo, and thats besides the couple of freezes but that was in bios
[13:28] <ItsMeLenny> thanks so much, i have a tonne of installing to do, have to put cinnamon on, as much as i have tried i really cant stand unity
[13:29] <ItsMeLenny> i like some of its features, and hate others, it was better in 12.04, they messed it up a little
[13:29] <solis> So I finally managed to get my dota2 to work(theres some bug apparently so cant run it in fullscreen) and now my issue is that the
[13:29] <yyyyyyyy> jj
[13:29] <solis> 'bar' at the top for the OS pushes down the game outside of the monitor, anyone know how to fix?
[13:29] <cvtsx> c ya saber
[13:30] <cvtsx> and thanks man
[13:30] <ItsMeLenny> i think i'll stay with default wine this time, instead of ppa wine
[13:30] <yyyyyyyy> hi
[13:30] <ItsMeLenny> yyyyyyyy, allo
[13:30] <zxd> hi
[13:31] <yyyyyyyy> hllo
[13:31] <yyyyyyyy> heloo
[13:31] <yyyyyyyy> hello
[13:31] <Darryl> Marry Christmas everyone.
[13:31] <ObrienDave> Merry Krishna, Bah Humbug, and all that ;P
[13:32] <Darryl> I ment Merry sorry for typing error.
[13:32] <Darryl> XD
[13:34] <XATRIX> Can i use sudo -s to use constant root environment while i setup the sever ?
[13:34] <siwica> manish_: thank you. I always get either "/dev/sdb: No medium found" or "mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sdb1: Device or resource busy" though
[13:34] <XATRIX> After i finish i'll use sudo as a usual
[13:36] <BluesKaj> Merry Christmas to all !
[13:37] <Rory> !humbug
[13:37] <Rory> aww
[13:38] <ItsMeLenny> gotta switch all my fonts to courier 10 pitch
[13:38] <BluesKaj> Bah ,too bad for you , Rory :)
[13:38] <ItsMeLenny> BluesKaj, my christmas just ended
[13:39] <BluesKaj> bbiab
[13:39] <cvtsx> how to format to a clean install in ubuntu 12.04?
[13:39] <cvtsx> idc if i loose data
[13:39] <ItsMeLenny> cvtsx, just reinstall?
[13:40] <cfhowlett> cvtsx, choose partition, choose format (ext4) and format away
[13:40] <cvtsx> on a server, i am using a putty
[13:40] <hitsujiTMO> cvtsx: you need to start the reinstall from your providers control panel
[13:40] <cvtsx> ok thanks
[13:45] <XATRIX> Also, why when i do sudo reboot, my Ubuntu 13 shuts down my server ?
[13:45] <XATRIX> It doesn't restart , it halts the server
[13:48] <Balzy> XATRIX could be something related to BIOS power settings?
[13:48] <XATRIX> Balzy: What kind of ?
[13:48] <Balzy> it's quite a strange behavior
[13:48] <XATRIX> Sure
[13:48] <ItsMeLenny> SaberX01, thanks again for your help, im off to bed, got a big day tomorrow installing more and more files
[13:49] <ItsMeLenny> and thanks to anyone else who chipped in
[13:49] <XATRIX> Ubuntu on my laptop, doesn't even restart my PC, hangs after "* Will halt now"
[13:49] <cvtsx> how do i look for directories through command line?
[13:49] <cvtsx> ubuntu 12.04
[13:50] <Balzy> never had such a problem, look for something related to restoring power, mine has an option to set the behavior after a power loss, maybe something like that
[13:52] <Balzy> Or it could be linux's fault, not recognising the hardware properly/sending the wrong signal
[13:52] <Balzy> you should wait for someone more expert
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> Balzy  try          sudo init 6        to reboot
[13:53] <Balzy> MonkeyDust it's XATRIX who's asking ;)
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> XATRIX   try          sudo init 6        to reboot
[13:54] <cvtsx> what is this doing on my vps? I installed znc and this was under one of the znc directories
[13:54] <cvtsx> "/etc/ssl/certs/Wells_Fargo_Root_CA.pem"
[13:57] <djtorr3> MERRY CHRISTMAS UBUNTU USERS
[13:57] <cvtsx> merry christmas (even though your a few hours late)
[13:58] <djtorr3> 1 hour to go for christmas here
[13:58] <brownfox> any one get Ubuntu swag for Christmas this year???
[13:58] <cvtsx> Anyways anyone know how to format a ubuntu vps through command line? I want a fresh install
[13:58] <cvtsx> dj where you at?
[13:58] <coku> apo ellada kaneis?
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> !gr
[13:59] <cvtsx> hmm europe
[13:59] <cvtsx> im not one for the holidays though
[14:00] <djtorr3> cvtsx, Korea
[14:00] <cvtsx> o
[14:00] <djtorr3> brownfox, no, but i got an ultrabook i'm gonna dual boot to Ubuntu on
[14:01] <coku> pos alazo room?
[14:01] <cvtsx> is xmas big in Korea? (assuming your not a USA serviceman)
[14:01] <cvtsx> what kind of ultraboot?
[14:01] <cvtsx> And i guess you guys do got Catholics in Korea, right?
[14:01] <djtorr3> cvtsx, I'm US, christmas is soso.  it's not as big in the US with the christmas giving
[14:02] <djtorr3> cvtsx, I got an ASUS book, i'll see if i can't find it
[14:02] <BluesKaj> !gr | coku
[14:02] <cvtsx> o nice i like ultrabooks
[14:02] <brownfox> I got a lenovo ultrabook last year... heck of a time getting it to dual boot. But it's my understanding that it was that particular model
[14:03] <BluesKaj> lenovo here as well, had to use legacy mode
[14:04] <brownfox> @BluesKaj it dawns on me that after all of this I should have used Wubi
[14:04] <djtorr3> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834231116
[14:04] <djtorr3> thats the book i got
[14:05] <BluesKaj> djtorr3, i removed w8 , and repartitioned for ntfs, ext4 and swap
[14:06] <BluesKaj> brownfox, wubi  is not worth the trouble , a vm maybe ,but i'm partial to dual booting
[14:06] <djtorr3> BluesKaj, i thought about removing W8, but my desktop has windows 8 too, so i decided to keep it so that I can work with my desktop
[14:08] <backbox> hi
[14:08] <backbox> clear
[14:08] <backbox> hi
[14:08] <backbox> hello
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> backbox  it works, we see you
[14:08] <cbh2> hi
[14:09] <BluesKaj> gj i\m sure there's a method to install ub8ntu beside w8 , but I went with W7 which is much simpler to install ...not a w8 fan anyway
[14:09] <BluesKaj> djtorr3,^
[14:10] <cfhowlett_> cbh2, greetings
[14:10] <BluesKaj> err ubuntu :)
[14:10] <LvMises> Is the mail tab at the top right of Ubuntu 12.04 supposed to give me any indication when I have a new mail in my inbox or do I have to manually check each time in Thunderbird?  It's linked and when I click it and select Mail it launches thunderbird
[14:12] <solis> What to do when a few of the system settings icons have disappeared? (auto start and audio settings)
[14:16] <djtorr3> i dont mind w8
[14:16] <djtorr3> a lot of haters, but tbh it's grown on me
[14:16] <djtorr3> but to be fair i removed a lot of features that w8 introduced
[14:28] <BluesKaj> djtorr3, the classic shell makes the desktop and start button/apps more manageable
[14:32] <stephan66> First of all: Happy holidays to all
[14:34] <BluesKaj> Merry Christmas, stephan66
[14:34] <stephan66> After a ~recent update of a 12.04 install the Broadcom BCM4313 Wifi connection stopped working. Is ther someone her eable to explain why and how I can fix it?
[14:35] <stephan66> Hi BluesKaj
[14:35] <Lucid_Lynx> NTRS..
[14:36] <cfhowlett_> stephan, probably got a kernel upgrade and the wifi driver didn't take to it
[14:37] <BluesKaj> stephan66, sudo modprobe b43
[15:05] <OerHeks> Yes.
[15:22] <bartek_> ktos z polski?;p
[15:22] <Myrtti> !pl | bartek_
[15:27] <cvtsx> how do i format a drive in ubuntu command line?
[15:28] <Hydr0p0nX> mkfs
[15:31] <yto> my wifi laptop doesnt work in ubuntu. plz help me?
[15:32] <Hydr0p0nX> what doesn't work ?
[15:33] <solis> How do I install the 32bit packages? :o (for my amd radeon card)
[15:33] <Your_Dog> merry christmas guys, is there a way to use additional drivers via command line?
[15:34] <mbroeker> Your_Dog, just use "jockey-text"
[15:34] <yto> my wireless card of laptop doesnt work. help me
[15:34] <Your_Dog> ah, thank you.
[15:35] <Hydr0p0nX> is there a 3.11 kernel for 12.04.3 ?
[15:35] <Hydr0p0nX> or just the generic, mainline ?
[15:36] <mbroeker> Hydr0p0nX, the current kernel for 12.04.3 is 3.8
[15:37] <Hydr0p0nX> thought so ... the current 3.8 builds don't support my hdmi audio out
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> Hydr0p0nX  you can install a newer kernel, 3.12 is also available
[15:37] <Hydr0p0nX> 3.11.10 fixed it
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> Hydr0p0nX  but... know what you're doing
[15:37] <Hydr0p0nX> i learned on slackware 4 :)
[15:38] <Hydr0p0nX> and i'll probably end up testing and upgrading to 14.04 when it is released
[15:39] <cristian_c> Hi
[15:39] <yto> my wireless card of laptop doesnt work. help me
[15:39] <cristian_c> I installed qt4-qtconfig. When I open the qt configuration tool, I change the font type and size. Then I select File-> Save, and the string 'Saved changes.' appears in the statusbar
[15:39] <deadmund> yto: I'm here!
[15:39] <deadmund> yto: Have you tried anything?  What card do you have?
[15:39] <afidegnum> hello, pls I have ./bitcoind script installed in /root/src/      how do I add it to $PATH so i can call the script directly without going to the folder ?
[15:40] <cristian_c> But if I close and reopen the configuration tool, I find the previous settings, as if I had not made any changes
[15:40] <deadmund> afidegnum: The prudent way it to sylink it or put it in /usr/local/bin
[15:40] <deadmund> symlink*
[15:40] <XATRIX> Where can i swtich my current MPM for apache2 ?
[15:40] <spence> Happy Holidays!
[15:41] <XATRIX> I wanna move from event to worker mpm
[15:41] <afidegnum> ok
[15:41] <somsip> XATRIX: what version of apache2?
[15:41] <cristian_c> How can I solve this problem?
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> what's mpm
[15:41] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[15:41] <XATRIX> Apache/2.4.6 (Ubuntu)
[15:41] <XATRIX> Server MPM:     event
[15:41] <XATRIX>   threaded:     yes (fixed thread count)
[15:41] <XATRIX>     forked:     yes (variable process count)
[15:41] <deadmund> yto: You there?
[15:42] <yto> deadmund, yes atheros
[15:42] <somsip> XATRIX: sudo a2enmod worker might be a starting point. Probably disable event too.
[15:42] <deadmund> yto: What chipset specifically?  What have you tried?
[15:43] <XATRIX> root@vox1-ua:~# a2enmod worker
[15:43] <XATRIX> ERROR: Module worker does not exist!
[15:43] <somsip> XATRIX: is it in /etc/apache2/mods-available ?
[15:43] <yto> deadmund, i dont know, how to find?
[15:43] <XATRIX> mpm_worker
[15:43] <deadmund> yto: sudo lspci -k (and look for the wireless card) if you listed drivers / modules that would be great too :)
[15:44] <deadmund> yto: If you're unsure, post it here: paste.ubuntu.com and let me look at it
[15:45] <XATRIX> yes, i've done with it
[15:45] <cvtsx> how do i format a hard drive through command line?
[15:45] <cvtsx> i want a fresh install
[15:45] <somsip> !info mkfs | cvtsx
[15:45] <cvtsx> ?
[15:45] <somsip> cvtsx: well, use an ISO and resintall then
[15:45] <cvtsx> ehh its a vps
[15:46] <gvo> cvtsx fresh install of the OS?
[15:46] <cvtsx> and i dont see an option on the cp
[15:46] <cvtsx> yes i installed some stuff i want off
[15:46] <deadmund> cvtsx: You can use mkfs and fdisk but it's probably easier to use the installer (disc or usb) to reinstall.  it has an option to re-format / erase the harddrive.
  is there like a debug mode for jockey-text?
[15:46] <mbroeker> XATRIX, install apache2-mpm-worker or apache2-mpm-event :)
[15:46] <cvtsx> deadmund: its a amazon vps
[15:46] <somsip> cvtsx: recreate from the correct AMI then
[15:47] <mbroeker> Your_Dog, /var/log/jockey.log
[15:47] <cvtsx> somsip: how?
[15:47] <cvtsx> please, i am new to vps
[15:47] <deadmund> cvtsx: so no gui at all?
[15:47] <somsip> cvtsx: you're referring to Amazon EC2 yes?
[15:47] <Your_Dog> ah ok thanks
[15:47] <cvtsx> no gui
[15:47] <cvtsx> somsip yes
[15:47] <XATRIX> mbroeker: i have both, worker haven't disabled event
[15:47] <yto> deadmund, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6634651/
[15:47] <cvtsx> i can terminate it but id rather reformat
[15:48] <cvtsx> no option on the cp
[15:48] <somsip> cvtsx: you have the wrong idea about how EC2 works. Best to find some basic guides and read up on it. Amazon have lots of docs, help and manuals
[15:48] <deadmund> yto: see the section called "Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Device 0036 (rev 01)" ??
[15:49] <yto> deadmund, yes
[15:49] <deadmund> yto: That's the wifi card.  See how there are no drivers or kernel modules for it?  That's bad.  Can you run sudo rfkill list and tell me what it says?
[15:49] <cvtsx> ok, why wont it work? then should i just get a new vps?
[15:49] <somsip> cvtsx: http://is.gd/qyP2cJ
[15:49] <yto> deadmund, ok
[15:50] <cvtsx> so just make a new instance?
[15:51] <somsip> cvtsx: yes
[15:51] <cvtsx> ok
[15:51] <yto> deadmund, don't show anything
[15:51] <cvtsx> i have made 4 already ;(
[15:51] <cvtsx> i am trying to install znc on it
[15:51] <somsip> cvtsx: read the guide on easier ways to make multiple instances.
[15:52] <cvtsx> but keep messing up
[15:52] <somsip> cvtsx: take an image before you install something that is likely to mess up
[15:52] <cvtsx> good idea
[15:52] <cvtsx> idk why i wasnt doing it before
[15:53] <deadmund> yto: What do you mean?
[15:53] <mbroeker> XATRIX, uninstall apache2-mpm-event to enable mpm-worker
[15:53] <deadmund> yto: It just returns without printing anything??
[15:53] <XATRIX> ok, thanks
[15:53] <yto> deadmund, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6634688/
[15:54] <deadmund> yto: Ahh, it only lists your bluetooth but not your wifi...
[15:54] <deadmund> yto: weird...  hang on
[15:54] <PatrickDickey> Morning everyone. :) I'm having a problem with my wireless connection. If I boot normally, NetworkManager crashes, so I have no wireless or wired network at all. But, if I boot in Recovery Mode, and click on Networking, it loads up. Then I can resume a normal boot, and have my wireless. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[15:55] <deadmund> yto: Is this a USB wifi dongle?
[15:55] <deadmund> yto: Is it listed in sudo lsusb  ?
[15:57] <mbroeker> XATRIX, the config file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf has three major blocks for the three workers. you can comment out a block there, too. But uninstalling is much easier.
[15:57] <somsip> mbroeker: he's on 2.4 Are you sure that's the same for 2.4? I understood the modules were part of core install and had to be enabled/disabled with the varioud .conf files being picked up through that
[15:57] <yto> deadmund, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6634705/
[15:58] <deadmund> yto: very weird...
[15:58] <deadmund> yto: Can you sudo modprobe ath9k      ?
[15:58] <deadmund> yto: sudo iwlist scan  to see if wireless networks are found
[15:59] <mbroeker> somsip, oh, i am on apache 2.2 on 12.04. I am not sure about 2.4 :)
[16:00] <somsip> mbroeker: aha. I've only used 2.4 on 14.04 so maybe it is different again for current, but your advice looked like 2.2. XATRIX, you may need to review
[16:00] <yto> deadmund, output is: interface doesnt support scanning.
[16:01] <XATRIX> Ok, thanks a lot
[16:01] <deadmund> yto: What interface doesn't support scanning?  The bluetooth?
[16:02] <yto> deadmund, i dont know. my bluetooth is turn on
[16:04] <yto> deadmund, can i update my kernel?
[16:04] <deadmund> yto: I'm not sure what is wrong.  I don't think I can help! :(
[16:04] <deadmund> yto: You can try.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1872537  What version of ubuntu / kernel are you currently on?
[16:05] <c0d30> #happyhahhpy holiday every one ..
[16:06] <yto> deadmund, kernel: 2.6.38 and ubuntu 11.04
[16:06] <deadmund> yto: Whoa!  Old version of everything.  Update to 12.04 at least (which is long term) or 13.10 which is the newest version.  This will probably solve the problem.  These wifi/bluetooth cards weren't very common on 2011 and linux didn't really support them back then.
[16:07] <deadmund> Linux 3.x has been out for over a year now!
[16:07] <xangua> !eol | yto
[16:09] <yto> deadmund, ok but in ubuntu 12.04 or 13.04 my laptop freeze on ubuntu logo screen and cant shutdown!
[16:09] <deadmund> yto: really?  It won't turn off?  We can probably fix that once you have it installed.
[16:11] <yto> deadmund, really? install ubuntu 12.04 or 13.10? what you suggest?
[16:12] <deadmund> yto: when it freezes, press ctrl + alt + f1 (and the other f keys as well).  They will switch to cli terminals and one of them will probably have error messages.  Also, try shutting down using sudo shutdown -h now and see if the problem persists
[16:13] <yto> deadmund, test sudo shutdown -h now and -P. but my problem not solved.
[16:13] <deadmund> yto: What?  How do you know, you haven't installed the newer version yet.
[16:15] <yto> deadmund, i install all version of ubuntu and my shutdown problem solved only in ubuntu 11.04 and in this i cant install wifi and  i am confused:D
[16:16] <deadmund> yto: In my opinion, the shutdown issue will be much easier to solve then the wifi problem.
[16:17] <deadmund> yto: plus, running a version that is past EOL is not the best idea.
[16:17] <yto> deadmund, OK i install ubuntu 13.10. how to find you to solve my shutdown problem?
[16:18] <deadmund> yto: that was fast but ok.  when the system freezes switch to ttyX (ctrl + alt + F1 and try the other F keys as well)
[16:18] <vinceableworld> hello
[16:18] <WeThePeople> so " sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start " command was not found any ideas?
[16:19] <OerHeks> yto maybe your shutdown problem is solved in 13.10 too
[16:19] <vinceableworld> Can someone assist me in the finishing touches to getting this bitcoin wallet installed from the unzipped package? I've done the best I can on my own... a little help would be appreciated :)
[16:19] <yto> deadmund, OK.
[16:20] <mbroeker> vinceableworld, do you need to compile it from source?
[16:20] <vinceableworld> no...
[16:20] <mbroeker> vinceableworld, it's a binary package?
[16:20] <deadmund> yto: Let me know what you find
[16:20] <vinceableworld> it's "bitcoin-0.8.6-linux"
[16:21] <vinceableworld> So not sure sorry trying to get acclimated to linux here...
[16:21] <vinceableworld> I've not gone back to windows in over a week.
[16:21] <newcomer> hi all
[16:22] <vinceableworld> I can cd to the file... find it... perhaps I don't know the right commands...
[16:22] <mbroeker> vinceableworld, i have taken a look at their webpage and found an ubuntu ppa and a tar.gz ball
[16:22] <vinceableworld> k..?
[16:22] <newcomer> question , is there any command to see what packages i have installed like gflrx kinda, which r easy to forget names ?
[16:22] <newcomer> i mean hard to remember their spelling sometimes
[16:23] <vinceableworld> I already downloaded - I believe the tar.gz perhaps and extracted it to my "downloads" folder
[16:23] <mbroeker> newcomer, open a terminal and enter dpkg -l | grep fglrx
[16:23] <newcomer> what will that do ?
[16:24] <mbroeker> newcomer, dpkg -l lists all installed packages and grep <text> searches for the string <text> :)
[16:24] <newcomer> oh i got it thanx ;)
[16:24] <OerHeks> newcomer, install synaptic for easy searching the repositorys
[16:25] <newcomer> i have troubles with fglrx cant login sometimes and have to do it with alt+f1 and reboot to get my gui
[16:27] <newcomer> i wanted to install cgminer , but it uninstalled my fglrx-updates and fglrx-amdcccle-updates and then couldnt get in ubuntu , reinstalled them with alt+f1 term but cgminer got auto uninstalled
[16:27] <Ycarene> is there a way to set rdp to show my primary desktop instead of starting a new session?
[16:27] <AndyBotwin> Ìû
[16:29] <mbroeker> vinceableworld, it's easy: unpack the tarball and move the entire folder to /opt/
[16:30] <newcomer> do u have any miner program to suggest while using 1600fsb-p45-3.4Ghz Quad-8Gb ram-small ati hd5450 and without having to uninstall the -updates from amd cause the machine doesnt work without them ?
[16:31] <mbroeker> vinceableworld, after that, ln -s /opt/bitcoin*/bin/64/* /usr/local/bin # for a 64 bit system
[16:31] <newcomer> im using ubuntu studio 13.10
[16:31] <newcomer> ill check it mbroeker  thanx
[16:31] <newcomer> oh
[16:36] <Guest38306> NH! I need help I have selected LVM for installation and i wanted to resize the partitiion but wasn't able to with GPArted. I have unmount and attempt to resize.
[16:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Feliĉa Kristnasko!
[16:42] <newcomer> for ubuntu do i need the bz2 or the lrz installer of a program ?
[16:43] <SchrodingersScat> newcomer: I thought those were just different compression
[16:44] <MoL0ToV> hi to all! where i cn find info to arm/samsung mobile phones ubuntu porting?
[16:44] <iceroot> MoL0ToV: #ubuntu-arm
[16:44] <MoL0ToV> thx
[16:44] <iceroot> MoL0ToV: and maybe #ubuntu-phone
[16:44] <andyfied> Guest38306: have you tried to do anything from the terminal?
[16:45] <loll2> njr
[16:45] <loll2> bjr
[16:45] <andyfied> Guest38306: like maybe this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1537569
[16:46] <Guest38306> andyfied, i haven't tried, let me see
[16:46] <loll2> quelqu'un en français
[16:46] <rcw2> what program will allow me to select usb as a device to install an iso onto.  k3b doesn't seem to have that feature
[16:46] <rcw2> bootable iso*
[16:47] <bazhang> loll2, #ubuntu-fr
[16:47] <bazhang> rcw2, unetbootin for one
[16:47] <loll2> yes
[16:48] <loll2>  tank you
[16:54] <Lucid_Lynx> man sort
[16:57] <acovrig> I am trying to install ubuntu from a network install CD (the standard iso won't fit on my CDs).  When booting the installer the if is up, but once I get to the network autoconfig the main if goes down and doesn't come back up (therefore configuration fails), why?
[16:58] <acovrig> and how can I get around this given there is no ifconfig, ifup, or ifdown?
[16:58] <popsch> hi. I can't mount a usb drive. I already gave my account the permissions under system -> users -> permissions; when I click on mount, I still get 'not authorized'; I rebooted since setting the permissions; I can mount the usb drive as root
[17:03] <demon^eye> i got some fonts issue
[17:03] <demon^eye> eho can help me?
[17:03] <demon^eye> who*
[17:04] <demon^eye> ?
[17:04] <Czupa> Could you show error message or something?
[17:04] <demon^eye> i got bad fonts for local lang i use
[17:04] <demon^eye> and that no english
[17:04] <vmusr> demon^eye, just state what is your problem, and if someone can help you they'll write
[17:05] <demon^eye> how can i set in ubuntu what called in windows "none uni code font" ?
[17:05] <AJVFox> Hey everyone. Wondering if anyone has suggestions on a solid gihub client with a clean and well laid out gui
[17:06] <Czupa> demon^eye What font are you using?
[17:06] <demon^eye> hebrew
[17:06] <demon^eye> i mean , i am using sec lang "hebrew" along side english
[17:07] <ClientAlive> I'm just getting started with postgres bc I need to build a database for my business. Do I need the server in order to create a database?
[17:07] <demon^eye> when i open a TXT file all hebrew look gibrish
[17:07] <demon^eye> but i have hebrew
[17:07] <Kablam> guys question whats the diffren between ln -d and ln -s symlink versus hardlink?
[17:07] <demon^eye> i can write in hebrew
[17:08] <acovrig> interesting: I can't get any of my ethernet interfaces to come up in the installer (they show up, but are down and there is no ifup command), yet the wifi works...
[17:08] <mbroeker> ClientAlive, sure, postgesql-server is the server and the client connects to any server on any network on any machine :)
[17:09] <Czupa> demon^eye Have you tried other text editors?
[17:10] <mbroeker> ClientAlive, to start with it, install pgadmin3 and phppgadmin
[17:10] <demon^eye> czupa : some time files in hebrew i d.l the name apear in gibrish
[17:10] <demon^eye> and also some TXT file  i open
[17:10] <demon^eye> i need 2 know where to set "none uni code " like in windows
[17:11] <demon^eye> this option sort it all up in windows
[17:11] <demon^eye> מישהוא מדבר פה עברית ?
[17:12] <michagogo|cloud> I have a DigitalOcean vps that I spin up occasionally, for miscellaneous tasks
[17:12] <michagogo|cloud> When I try to shut it down, something goes wrong
[17:12] <M1C4HTRON13> if I move and resize a boot partition is it easy to get it to boot again afterwards?
[17:13] <michagogo|cloud> I've tried with `sudo halt` and `sudo shutdown -h now`
[17:13] <Czupa> demon^eye https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HebrewLocalizationHowto that might be helpful
[17:14] <Meerkat> demon^eye, open your text file and choose "save as". What is the character encoding set to?
[17:14] <michagogo|cloud> Nothing that I do appears to do anything
[17:14] <demon^eye> letme see ... czupa i will look into there also
[17:14] <michagogo|cloud> Either way, it ends up apparently shut down, nothing on the network interface (no ssh,etc) and nothing on the virtual console
[17:15] <michagogo|cloud> Anyone have any ideas as to the possible reason?
[17:15] <XATRIX> Guys, how can i enable more advanced error reporting, i'm using apache 2.4.6 + fcgid + php5.5
[17:15] <michagogo|cloud> Hm, one message got eaten by a connection loss -- I also said that its status remains "running" and not "shut down".
[17:15] <XATRIX> My website gives me 500 error. But default error log and my custom one doesn't indicate any errors
[17:15] <demon^eye> meerkat : its set to westran
[17:16] <demon^eye> *western
[17:16] <Meerkat> demon^eye, try UTF-8. Just guessing, but it might help.
[17:16] <demon^eye> let me see :D
[17:16] <aaa801> anyone know why distcc isn't finding a file that is in PATH and DISTCC_PATH ?
[17:16] <aaa801> http://i.imgur.com/RABmbkK.png
[17:17] <demon^eye> meetkat : my TXT file hebs charecters look gibrish that my issue
[17:17] <demon^eye> from there i need to go on
[17:17] <demon^eye> how can i set that up
[17:18] <demon^eye> that  how it look like copy paste " ëáåã ùì âáø > ðçùó òì éãé úîðéä"
[17:18] <Meerkat> demon^eye, so saving as UTF-8 and re-opening the file did not help?
[17:19] <demon^eye> nope it doesnt help
[17:19] <demon^eye> its all about unicode ...
[17:20] <Nanodesu> Hello! I'm using xtv through ssh but I don't know how to configure it. I mean, I'm trying to see what my son is seeing in his screen but when I type xtv (being connected through ssh to my second computer) what xtv shows is my screen not the other.
[17:20] <Nanodesu> Do yo know how to do it?
[17:21] <Robert__> Hi! Which graphic would you recommend for drawing with gimp? (Used 80% under ubuntu/debian and under win7) so it should work under both good :)
[17:21] <Robert__> I head about bamboo but maybe another works also good
[17:25] <mbroeker> Nanodesu, login on the remote machine, sudo su - <sonsuseraccount> and enter xtv
[17:35] <levo> how to only upgrade 'wine' ?
[17:37] <akrl> hello, does anyone know if its possible to mount a partition using its beginning and ending sector locations?
[17:45] <michagogo|cloud> levo: iirc, sudo apt-get install wine
[17:45] <demon^eye> is there any software for Ubuntu to make full backup?
[17:46] <demon^eye> full partition backup
[17:48] <SchrodingersScat> demon^eye: there are several methods you can consider
[17:48] <Nanodesu> mbroeker: I get: Can't open display: localhost:10.0
[17:49] <SchrodingersScat> !backup | demon^eye
[17:50] <levo> i'm trying to install pdfexchange editor 3.0.306.1  via wine 1.4 , but it even doesn't get started, it's like nothing happens at all.
[17:51] <iceroot> levo: #winehq
[17:51] <SchrodingersScat> demon^eye: I think gparted can copy partitions, and there's the dd command, although dd is more manual and can lead to disk loss through user error
[17:51] <iceroot> !appdb | levo
[18:06] <michagogo|cloud> Does anyone know why an Ubuntu vps would appear not to shut down when it's told to with either `sudo halt` or `sudo shutdown -h now`?
[18:07] <michagogo|cloud> It stops being reachable over the internet (ssh, etc) and the virtual console connection is just a black screen, but the status remains "running" and not "shut down"
[18:08] <ClientAlive> mbroeker: Thanks. Sorry for dealay (I'm on #postgresql too). I do have pgadmin and have just set a postgres password. Can I presume to just start using it from here on out and can I just start working in pgadmin to do so?
[18:08] <mbroeker> michagogo|cloud, stop your container with the container software :)
[18:09] <ClientAlive> mbroeker: Or do I still need to do some work on the command line (configuration or something)?
[18:09] <mbroeker> ClientAlive, the server is up and running?
[18:10] <zeljko> heoo
[18:10] <michagogo|cloud> mbroeker: the interface says that it's not recommended and that the server should be powered off from the command line
[18:11] <michagogo|cloud> Does that mean something other than `sudo shutdown -h now` or `sudo halt`?
[18:11] <ClientAlive> I'm still in the psql command line and have just successfully set a password (I - think). Does that indicate any kind of answer to that question (I'm truly asking - I don't know if it does or not - maybe the password only seemed to work).
[18:11] <mbroeker> ClientAlive, # sudo su - postgres # createuser -P business # createdb --owner business business
[18:11] <ClientAlive> mbroeker: Can any of that be done in pgadmin?
[18:12] <mbroeker> ClientAlive, no, these commands are cli commands
[18:12] <ClientAlive> ok
[18:12] <Nanodesu> Hello! I'm using xtv through ssh but I don't know how to configure it. I mean, I'm trying to see what my son is seeing in his screen but when I type xtv (being connected through ssh to my second computer) what xtv shows is my screen not the other.
[18:13] <mbroeker> michagogo|cloud, i think that the container software has no clue about the shutdown: or try it with sudo shutdown -p now (instead of h) and check the interface
[18:13] <zeljko> macedonijan
[18:16] <michagogo|cloud> mbroeker: what's shutdown -p?
[18:16] <ClientAlive> mbroeker: I'm running everything locally and don't have any need to connect to any outside datbase. Is there a way to configure things so pgadmin will connect to my local postgres server by default/when it starts (or is that what the commands you gave are for)?
[18:16] <ClientAlive> Just trying to get a feel for this is all
[18:16] <mbroeker> ClientAlive, these commands will create a postgres user business and a database for this user
[18:17] <ClientAlive> mbroeker: Copying down your comands but I better start learning about it now. Thank you so much sir.
[18:18] <vicsar> .
[18:20] <mbroeker> michagogo|cloud, man shutdown -P powers off :)
[18:20] <michagogo|cloud> Agh
[18:20] <michagogo|cloud> Ahhh*
[18:21] <michagogo|cloud> That's probably it
[18:21] <michagogo|cloud> How is that different from -h?
[18:21] <mbroeker> michagogo|cloud, normally, a shutdown -h now powers it off automatically, but sometimes, you need the -P switch
[18:21] <zeljko> acedonijan
[18:21] <zeljko> macedonijan
[18:21] <michagogo|cloud> What do they do differently?
[18:22] <linuxuz3r> xD
[18:22] <michagogo|cloud> Also, is there a no-arguments command that does the same thing, the way halt=shutdown -h now?
[18:22] <mbroeker> michagogo|cloud, i have no idea: all my pcs, laptops and vps'es were able to shutdown without -P :)
[18:29] <levo> how to know what version of packages are retrieved from update command?
[18:31] <OerHeks> levo, look in softwarecenter > history
[18:32] <levo> OerHeks: yes
[18:32] <islandmonkey> Hello all, how could I always make a program run under optirun?
[18:34] <jiacomo> Ubuntu 12.04 freezes two times, directly after each other. Mouse and keyboard don't respond, and there are some strange 1,5cm tall lines on the screen, sometimes white, sometimes black and sometimes different colours, all these contents in one freeze. What could be the cause of this freezing?
[18:34] <XATRIX> Guys, can you advice
[18:34] <XATRIX> I've added this repo into my apt
[18:34] <XATRIX> https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5-oldstable
[18:34] <XATRIX> I need php5.4
[18:34] <XATRIX> But when i do apt-get update
[18:34] <RamsesII> I am using Lubuntu 13.10. I installed lives and cinerella but then uninstalled them. After that, all sound doesn't work. I did not change any settings. My system is not muted.
[18:34] <XATRIX> I receive:
[18:34] <FloodBot1> XATRIX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:34] <OerHeks> islandmonkey, maybe this page is any help to add the optirun option > http://www.tuxtrix.com/2012/01/how-to-add-optirun-mode-to-applications.html
[18:34] <RamsesII> Is anyone familiar with this problem?
[18:35] <XATRIX> Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net saucy/main Translation-en_US
[18:35] <XATRIX> Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net saucy/main Translation-en
[18:35] <XATRIX> Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net saucy/main i386 Packages
[18:35] <XATRIX> And i actually have no php 5.4 packages to install
[18:35] <XATRIX> Any idea how can i ?
[18:36] <RamsesII> Does anyone know if Lubuntu uses Pulseaudio or not? Ever search says "did you mean Ubuntu?"
[18:36] <OerHeks> XATRIX, ppa's are not supported here, contact the ppa owner
[18:36] <ice9> if Firefox is running and I want to start a new window but not from file->new window;  I want to do it from the firefox cmd itself. what param should I pass to it?
[18:37] <OerHeks> XATRIX, bacause that PPA goes up to Raring, no saucy candidates
[18:38] <RamsesII> -new-window
[18:38] <RamsesII> ice9: Enter the command "firefox -new-window <url>". It works when Firefox is running.
[18:39] <OerHeks> RamsesII +1
[18:39] <RamsesII> But...about my sound problem. Does Lubuntu 13.10 use Pulseaudio?
[18:39] <ice9> RamsesII: it said FF is already running
[18:40] <RamsesII> I have firefox open and entered "firefox -new-window xkcd.com
[18:40] <RamsesII> "
[18:40] <RamsesII> And it opened a new window with xkcd in it.
[18:41] <XATRIX> Any idea where can i get php 5.4 ?
[18:42] <WeThePeople> i messed up with nautilus how do i fix, i typed nautilus instead of gksudo nautilus
[18:43] <hitsujiTMO> XATRIX: php.net? what ubuntu version are you on?
[18:44] <donvlto> anyone have idea why my computer freezes, i am checking ram right now, it seems fine
[18:44] <donvlto> it has ubuntu 12.04
[18:44] <XATRIX> hitsujiTMO: Ubuntu server 13.10
[18:44] <donvlto> but it freez with no warning
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> XATRIX: do you want to downgrade?
[18:44] <XATRIX> Yes
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> erm... why?
[18:44] <bazhang> donvlto, debian?
[18:44] <XATRIX> I need exactly 5.4 version of php
[18:45] <donvlto> no its ubuntu, im planing to install debian
[18:45] <XATRIX> I don't want to downgrade ubuntu
[18:45] <XATRIX> I need to downgrade php
[18:46] <XATRIX> OerHeks: and why do you think it's for rarian ?
[18:46] <XATRIX> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ondrej/php5-oldstable/ubuntu saucy main
[18:46] <hitsujiTMO> XATRIX: i doubt that, if any software requires exactly php5.4 then its badly written and should be avoided as you'll never know what security holes it will have
[18:46] <Lucid_Lynx> awesome comic..
[18:46] <OerHeks> XATRIX, bacause the page says so. and you can add any ppa, but you will find no packages, did you?
[18:47] <XATRIX> hitsujiTMO: thanks for warning, but i still need this php version
[18:47] <RamsesII> I fixed the sound issue.
[18:48] <RamsesII> XATRIX: Do you need it for testing or for a live server?
[18:48] <Bjizzle> Hi. I was trying to install nvidia 331 drivers but it said it needed linux-headers. I downloaded linux-image from recovery mode console but I got the wrong link for wget and I tried to install an html page accidentally. When I got the right linux-image downloaded and installed I also downloaded and installed the correct linux-headers after realizing linux-image is not linux-headers. Now my machine won't boot. It flashes the loading spl
[18:48] <jiacomo> I just logged in (computer was suspended) and it totally freezes, keyboard and mouse didn't react, only some white lines all over the screen, sometimes changing to black lines. What can be the cause of this freeze?
[18:48] <XATRIX> OerHeks: http://ppa.launchpad.net/ondrej/php5-oldstable/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-amd64/ ?
[18:49] <XATRIX> RamsesII: i need it for testing and running a code for myself
[18:49] <islandmonkey> OerHeks: Great thanks - and even better - it was for the application I wanted!
[18:49] <XATRIX> Actually my custom module compiled for API 5.4
[18:49] <RamsesII> I would recommend the easy method of installing the version of xampp which includes the PHP version you want.
[18:49] <RamsesII> http://sourceforge.net/projects/xampp/files/XAMPP%20Linux/
[18:50] <jenia_> hello
[18:50] <jenia_> what does /etc/hostname refere to??
[18:50] <hitsujiTMO> Bjizzle: just choose the older kernel from the grub boot menu and once you get in remove the linux-image package you installed
[18:50] <jenia_> mine is "ubuntu"
[18:50] <jenia_> why cant i type /debian/index.html
[18:50] <RamsesII> It is the name your computer will have on the network.
[18:50] <bazhang> !xampp | RamsesII
[18:51] <jenia_> or http://debian/index.html in the browser and receive the correct page??
[18:51] <Bjizzle> Hitsujitmo: I already tried booting into another kernel. I got similar results.
[18:51] <RamsesII> ubottu: I do not need support for XAMPP.
[18:51] <hitsujiTMO> Bjizzle: have you tried booting with the text kernel param?
[18:51] <RamsesII> ubottu: I wouldn't dream of thinking you were intelligent...
[18:52] <bazhang> RamsesII, /msg ubottu
[18:52] <Bjizzle> Hitsujitmo: I don't think so. What would I google for how to do that?
[18:52] <hitsujiTMO> !text | Bjizzle
[18:53] <hitsujiTMO> Bjizzle: that will get you to a text mode that you can use to see if the issue is woth xorg, e.g. the 331 driver you installed
[18:54] <slayer> hello all
[18:54] <ni1s> 'ello
[18:54] <slayer> I'm trying to get Steam working on 64-bit Linux, but it's failing when it segfaults in the 32-bit fglrx_dri.so module
[18:55] <slayer> how do i update the 32-bit fglrx? I see the timestamps on the 64-bit files are from a few minutes ago, but the 32-bit SO file is from jan 8, 2012
[18:55] <Bjizzle> Hitsujitmo: Thank you. Is it supposed to drop to tty login?
[18:56] <hitsujiTMO> Bjizzle: yup. does not start X
[18:56] <RamsesII> Bye everyone. Merry Christmas.
[18:57] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: what gpu do you have?
[18:57] <Bjizzle> Hitsujitmo: now should I purge linux-headers that I installed?
[18:58] <slayer> Radeon HD 6770
[18:58] <hitsujiTMO> Bjizzle: what exactly did you install? i would first look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what was the cause of the non boot. may have been the nvidia 331 driver
[18:58] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, Radeon HD 6770
[18:59] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, though when I start Steam, it segfaults on this file: /usr/lib32/dri/fglrx_dri.so
[18:59] <aFeijo> hi folks, I own an NAS drive (its a shared box which run linux inside), I want to permanentely map it in my ubuntu 13.10, I added a line in my fstab, but its not working: "mount.nfs: remote share not in 'host:dir' format"
[19:00] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[19:00] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, it is: Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[19:01] <Bjizzle> Hitsujitmo: I think it was X, fatal server error: addscreen/screeninit failed for driver 0
[19:01] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: is that happening for a specific game or steam itself
[19:01] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, Steam itself, it won't start
[19:01] <hitsujiTMO> Bjizzle: uninstall the nvidia driver so then
[19:02] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, the exact error is: 0xf6ace15f in __driCreateNewScreen_20050727 () from /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so
[19:02] <nochas> aFeijo: try specifying the remote share in host:dir format?
[19:03] <aFeijo> nochas, all examples I found was in a simple //192.x.x.x/share /mnt/folder/
[19:03] <linuxuz3r> is there a way to upgrade 12.04 to 13.10
[19:03] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, I've googled that error, but didn't find much that helped, which led me to believe that it might because the 32-bit SO file is a good 2 yrs older than the 64-bit file...
[19:04] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, but I could be barking up the wrong tree..
[19:04] <nochas> try 192.x.y.z:/share /foo/
[19:04] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: have a look here. seems to be issues with aiglx or the compositor: http://keycorner.org/pub/text/doc/ATI_Radeon_&_Kernel_2.6.htm
[19:04] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, haha yes I've disabled those two, I saw that earlier too
[19:05] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, my best bet is to try updating the 32-bit fglrx_dri.so file, but how can I do that? apt-get won't allow both the i386 and the 64-bit version at the same time
[19:06] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, maybe purge the 64-bit fglrx-updates and install the 32-bit fglrx-updates:i386?
[19:06] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: i don't think that's your issue. It seems more like something is forcing aiglx
[19:06] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, oh? hmm how do I detect that?
[19:09] <Bashing-om> linuxuz3r, The online upgrade path from 12,04 is one gets upgraded to 12.10, do it again to version 13.04, do it once more to get to version 13.10. Else, the faster way is to do a clean install from, say, a 13.10 liveDVD. - hth- .
[19:10] <michagogo|cloud> Or wait until April
[19:10] <michagogo|cloud> You'll be able to upgrade directly from 12.04 to 14.04, I think
[19:10] <Meerkat> yes, that is possible.
[19:11] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ... maybe some info in there that could help
[19:12] <Bashing-om> linuxuz3r, Yes on direct LTS to LTS .. in April when 14.04 is released.
[19:13] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, here it is http://pastebin.com/FCk8kT31
[19:13] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, I have the minidump from the Steam executable too
[19:14] <Meerkat> as a 13.04 user I feel stressed
[19:14] <Meerkat> 12.10 gets longer support :(
[19:14] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: yes can you pastebin that too
[19:15] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, the minidump analysis?
[19:16] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: yup
[19:17] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, sure, here it is http://pastebin.com/X59L3LrE
[19:17] <Meerkat> what happens to quantal users when raring no longer gets support? Can they upgrade to 13.10 or 14.04 LTS directly?
[19:17] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, I used gdb to launch Steam as well, but it didn't teach me anything new
[19:17] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: can you run: sudo apt-get -f install
[19:18] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, yes, just ran it again, got the usual: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed... etc
[19:21] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: are you running steam through wine?
[19:21] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, nope
[19:23] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: can you run steam from the terminal and pastebin the output of that
[19:26] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, here it is http://pastebin.com/kduTSZkG
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: the fact that its reinstalling the bootstrap suggests it might be an issue with steam itself. can you try deleting the contents of ~/.local/share/Steam
[19:32] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, sure, let me try
[19:32] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, done, let me try restarting Steam now or is there something else I should configure first?
[19:33] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: just run steam away
[19:33] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, damn, same error
[19:35] <Guest40595> Can you help me for config new tld with bind9 ?
[19:36] <Guest40595> I have add new zone in /etc/bind/named.conf and i a have create file config
[19:37] <Guest40595> but the command dig return null :/
[19:44] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, i guess i should give up on this, maybe it  just doesn't work in Ubuntu 13.10
[19:44] <slayer> maybe in a few months it will
[19:44] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: i wouldn't give up, its an odd issue. it should work on your system
[19:44] <ben_> hi
[19:45] <ben_> hiiii
[19:45] <Guest40595> one dns admin on channel ? :)
[19:46] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, yeah, i don't like quitting either but I've run out of ideas at this point
[19:46] <paulus68_1> perhaps a stupid question I have a seperate home drive and now I want to install a new SSD on my system replacing the current startup disk do I need to specify again that home is on a seperate drive or is this reconized automaticly
[19:46] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, I still don't understand why the 32-bit fglrx_dri.so which is being loaded is from jan 8, 2012 and not the most recent updated one i installed today
[19:47] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, it seems to me that outdated code in that 32-bit SO might be worth investigating, but I don't know how to update it
[19:47] <ben_> hi
[19:47] <Guest40595> ben_: no
[19:48] <ben_> whi?
[19:49] <yto> i cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo
[19:49] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: that's not part of the driver itself i suspect. considering that its a 32bit lib, and you've a 64bit system
[19:49] <levo> i've got wine 1.4 which i've heard is kind of dead by now. i want to upgrade to the latest, so i did sudo apt-get update ,  and then sudo apt-get upgrade, but in uprading package lists it doesn't tell anything about wine getting upgraded , what should i do?
[19:49] <levo> http://pastebin.com/2xXmtbgC
[19:49] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, but it's being loaded, it's in the stacktrace, since Steam is only 32-bit on Linux
[19:50] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, Steam is not a 64-bit app so it can only load 32-bit libs
[19:50] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: yes i know, i'm saying that the fglrx_dri is prob at its latest
[19:50] <bazhang> levo, you could check in #winehq
[19:51] <levo> bazhang: what does it have to do with wine?
[19:51] <bazhang> levo, their repos have the very latest
[19:51] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, this is what I get for: ls -al /usr/lib32/dri/fglrx_dri.so
[19:51] <yto> i cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?
[19:51] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 34623716 Jan  8  2012 /usr/lib32/dri/fglrx_dri.so
[19:51] <Guest40595> Can you help me for config new tld with bind9 ?
[19:51] <slayer> it's 2 yrs old
[19:52] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, while the 64-bit one is from today
[19:52] <enen92> hi all. Does anyone know of a indicator panel applet to control services running on the system (e.g. nginx,mysql,etc)?
[19:52] <paulus68_1> if I replace my current startup disk with an ssd and install the new version of Ubuntu on it does it reconize that I have a seperate home partition?
[19:52] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, and the 2 yr old 32-bit SO is what's segfaulting
[19:53] <Guest40595> enen92: service --status-all ?
[19:53] <enen92> lol yes
[19:54] <enen92> but looking for an easy way to start/stop a service from the panel
[19:54] <yto> i cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?
[19:54] <Bashing-om> levo, what results from terminal command "apt-cache policy wine" ?? should say what version is installed and waht is available,.. not a big proponent of adding PPAs to the system, but the latest versions are in the PPAs.
[19:54] <Guest40595> enen92: the console is your best friend :)
[19:55] <Guest40595> you use gnome ? kde ?
[19:55] <enen92> gnome-classic
[19:55] <Guest40595> with openbox, you can create one pipe menu, and this is top :)
[19:56] <Guest40595> Can you help me for config new tld with bind9 ? :'( please...
[19:57] <levo> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/BsR1fSQR
[19:57] <x0auser> Why i ise 1go of ram with mate DE, i'm under precise ! just wanna to understand
[19:58] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, thank you for helping me though, i really appreciate it :)
[19:58] <yto> i cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?
[19:59] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, when I install fglrx-updates, I see this: Building for architecture x86_64
[19:59] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, is there a way to make it build for arch x86 as well?
[20:00] <hitsujiTMO> slayer no since you have a 64bit kernel
[20:00] <paulus68_1> if I replace my current startup disk with an ssd and install the new version of Ubuntu on it does it reconize that I have a seperate home partition?
[20:00] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, ah i see
[20:01] <Bashing-om> levo. that says you are running the latest version of wine that is available from the repository. If you are into testing the latest versions of wine are available with installing the PPA and upgrading via that means.
[20:01] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: you can't use a 32bit driver with a 64bit kernel. doesn't stop you from using 32bit apps tho
[20:01] <levo> Bashing-om: 1.4 is so old AFAIK.
[20:01] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, right, hmm
[20:01] <washuu> Hi :-) Mwrry xmas...and a question...
[20:02] <levo> Bashing-om: i'm wrong it seems it's new
[20:02] <washuu> Fot Apache questions should I go where?
[20:03] <Meerkat> washuu, just ask, maybe you'll get lucky
[20:03] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | washuu
[20:03] <ilyasoo> thanks
[20:05] <washuu> Tnx meerkat... ok... I have apache running and /cgi-bin/php* is always hit my scripts. I want to insult the script-user automatically instead of the 500 page.
[20:05] <washuu> Can I move/rename the PHP link?
[20:05] <Meerkat> hit by scripts?
[20:06] <washuu> *by scipts. Yes
[20:06] <yto> i cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?
[20:06] <hitsujiTMO> washuu: wht language do you speak?
[20:07] <Bashing-om> levo, well, yes.. you need to understand that any version in the repository id frozen at the version, To insure that your system stays stable. I am sure there are later versions via PPA !,, but not recommeded by me, I value stability over newness !
[20:07] <hitsujiTMO> washuu: i'm guessing english isn't your native language
[20:07] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, ah i'm reading about fglrx-experimental? might be worth a shot?
[20:08] <hitsujiTMO> slayer: might be if you want to be on the latest driver. but if its the lib thats crashing then it might not be any good.
[20:08] <washuu> @hitsuji - German and English
[20:08] <slayer> hitsujiTMO, ok, thanks
[20:09] <hitsujiTMO> !de | washuu if your english is isn't the best which i'm guessing from " is always hit my scripts" and "I want to insult the script-user"
[20:09] <SchrodingersScat> washuu: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/misc/rewriteguide.html
[20:09] <levo> Bashing-om, you're right, but i tried to add the ppa, got this error. Bashing-om
[20:09] <levo> http://pastebin.com/wj7YETNv
[20:10] <SchrodingersScat> washuu: you might be looking for the "Blocking of Robots" section
[20:10] <paulus68_1> want to install a new ubuntu on a ssd drive does it reconize my home drive which is on a seperate HD or do I have to specify this seperatly
[20:10] <washuu> I was just unconcentrated. On the English speaking channels I can find the most helpful people.
[20:11] <washuu> tnx Schroedinger for the link
[20:11] <yto> i cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?
[20:12] <Bashing-om> levo, PPA errors can be tough to trouble shoot, how about registering on ubuntuforums.net and we can take a stab at it .. lots of individual help available on the forum.
[20:12] <SchrodingersScat> paulus68_1: in the manual setup you can try pointing it to your /home/ partition manually and tell it to not format the partition.
[20:12] <washuu> Url rewrite... You are right. I forgot about it. I'll read that doc completely and that should solve my question
[20:13] <dveim> hello
[20:13] <SchrodingersScat> washuu: great for filtering malicious sites like facebook.
[20:13] <levo> Bashing-om: the first thing in ubuntuforums.net is "cute girls from russia"  lol
[20:13] <dveim> i installed oracle VB from .deb file, added VM, then removed it with VB
[20:14] <dveim> but now on loading system tries to load VM
[20:14] <Bashing-om> levo, leeme get my facts straight !- I am a facilitator on that forum ! (sheesshh).
[20:15] <levo> Bashing-om: seriously check what you typed.
[20:15] <Bashing-om> levo, that URL should be "ubuntuforums.org" ! .. a lengthy registratioon procedure, but well worth the effort !
[20:15] <washuu> I meant hacker scripts that attack badly configured PHP .
[20:16] <dveim> and fails on Starting VirtualBox
[20:16] <yto> i cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?
[20:16] <dveim> how can i totally remove it from my system?
[20:17] <SchrodingersScat> washuu: the link is useful then if they have a custom user-agent, otherwise maybe there are other options.  For example, if the user-agent is "script.2" you can filter for that and redirect to an error page regardless of what the normal code would be.
[20:18] <Meerkat> redirect to nsa.gov!
[20:18] <SchrodingersScat> good call
[20:18] <dveim> this is result of find / -name *virtual*
[20:18] <dveim> http://pastebin.com/Em9eT9hh
[20:18] <dveim> what should i remove to prevent autoloading VB?
[20:19] <washuu> Schroedinger: The user agent isn't always the same. Usually it doesn't look faked.
[20:21] <SchrodingersScat> washuu: how are you identifying it then?  have you seen fail2ban ?
[20:22] <helpmepleazze> hello
[20:22] <helpmepleazze> i installed oracle VB and created one VM
[20:22] <helpmepleazze> then removed all
[20:22] <washuu> I have fail2ban but seemingly I am not good enough to configure it correcty :(
[20:22] <helpmepleazze> but atfer reboot system fails to init X
[20:23] <helpmepleazze> so i have only access to console
[20:23] <helpmepleazze> http://pastebin.com/Em9eT9hh is output of find / *virtual*
[20:23] <helpmepleazze> what should i remove to stop autoloading VB?
[20:25] <hitsujiTMO> helpmepleazze: lets start with: cat /etc/issue
[20:25] <helpmepleazze> Linux Mint 16 Petra
[20:25] <SchrodingersScat> !mint | helpmepleazze
[20:25] <helpmepleazze> ...
[20:25] <yto> i cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?
[20:25] <helpmepleazze> it is ubuntu on 955%
[20:26] <helpmepleazze> *95%
[20:26] <bazhang> helpmepleazze, its not supported here
[20:26] <helpmepleazze> retarded
[20:26] <OerHeks> mint has its own issues
[20:26] <hitsujiTMO> helpmepleazze: mint is very different from ubuntu. we're can't support it here
[20:26] <SchrodingersScat> I read your question, and have no idea how virtualbox is crashing your x.
[20:26] <helpmepleazze> it is not mint issue...
[20:26] <bazhang> helpmepleazze, go to their support channel for that
[20:26] <hitsujiTMO> helpmepleazze: its not an ubuntu issue either
[20:27] <qin> !mint > helpmepleazze
[20:27] <Penguin_Pete> OK, have I woken up in a different universe, or is it no longer possible to change BIOS settings to boot from CD? Inspiron 3250 laptop, running Windows 8. Normally I'd hold F1
[20:30] <Meerkat> Penguin_Pete, try F2
[20:30] <Meerkat> or Fn+F1
[20:30] <hitsujiTMO> Penguin_Pete: esc, f11, f12, del ... key is different on every system
[20:31] <SchrodingersScat> Penguin_Pete: oh no, your disk drive! :(
[20:33] <Bashing-om> Penguin_Pete; Windows8 == UEFI .. and that is a whole new ball game in a means to boot a different operating system, even a bootable CD !
[20:33] <gvo> lightdm is flakey on mint
[20:34] <MathersMarshall> Is there a way to change the color of the text at the top of the screen on Ubuntu?
[20:35] <SchrodingersScat> MathersMarshall: do you have a "Theme Configuration" in your settings?
[20:36] <yto> i cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?
[20:36] <MathersMarshall> Schrodingerscat: To which Ubuntu version does that apply to?
[20:36] <SchrodingersScat> MathersMarshall: it was a question, so all of them.
[20:36] <washuu> It looks like the PHP executable is not needed in the cgi-bin folder at all! I renamed the files.
[20:37] <MathersMarshall> Schrodingerscat: I'm looking now
[20:37] <MathersMarshall> Schrodingerscat: No
[20:38] <hitsujiTMO> MathersMarshall: if you want to change any of the colors afaik you'd have to edit the theme itself
[20:39] <hussain> hi FloodBot1
[20:45] <yto> i cant shutdown my laptop and test sudo shutdown -h and -P but my problem not solved. when shutdown laptop it freeze in page ubuntu logo. anyone can help me?
[20:46] <washuu> It looks like I didn't deinstall some extremely insecure remote administration tool. Now I can write a script
[20:47] <washuu> What do you see in the system logs after you tried to shutdown, yto?
[20:49] <herp> normal user cant connect to any wifi network without admin password (ubuntu 12.04). Workaround?
[20:49] <yto> washuu, where is log file?
[20:50] <gvo> yto use C-A-F1 to get to a terminal and do the shutdown -h from there.  Maybe an error message will scroll by to give you a hint.
[20:50] <b13m_> need some help
[20:51] <gvo> yto also look at log files, and boot into recovery  mode and look at the X logs
[20:52] <qin> herp: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141553/how-to-enable-wireless-network-for-standard-users
[20:52] <Meerkat> herp, go to user and groups settings, click on the user your wanna change permissions for and click the "advanced settings" button. Somewhere around there will be a checkbox for "connecting to wireless networks"
[20:53] <Meerkat> herp, that link looks like a quicker and easier method. Go with that! :)
[20:54] <gvo> b13m_: Don't ask for help, just ask a question.
[20:54] <yto> gvo, i do your instruction but output is: The system is going to halt now ....    but laptop freeze and cant shutdown
[20:54] <qin> yto: to try to eliminate x problem: sudo service lightdm stop; and from console: sudo shoutdown -h now
[20:55] <gvo> yto ^^^
[20:56] <gvo> yto also remove quiet and splash from boot kernel temporarily
[20:56] <Jacob__> hi, i need help w/ repairing my windows partition
[20:56] <Jacob__> i tried using boot repair
[20:56] <Jacob__> but it only made it worse
[20:56] <qin> yto: maybe checking with htop that all X rubbish is off is good idea, then /var/log/ and sys.lop
[20:56] <Jacob__> i also keep getting bsod
[20:57] <Jacob__> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6635888/
[20:57] <Jacob__> can anybody please help?
[20:58] <gvo> jacob__: Not sure the Ubuntu channel is the right place for that kind of help.
[20:59] <Jacob__> which channel then?
[20:59] <gvo> Dunno
[20:59] <yto> qin, i do your instruction but laptop doesnt shutdown
[21:00] <Jacob__> is there a channel for fixing windows?
[21:02] <gvo> yto did you boot single user and look at the Xorg log?
[21:03] <yto> gvo, no where is my Xorg log?
[21:04] <uBUXUBu> merry christmas ubuntites!
[21:04] <uBUXUBu> ho ho ho
[21:05] <gvo> yto in /var/log
[21:05] <mbroeker> and now i have a keyboard, uBUXUBu lol
[21:05] <uBUXUBu> santa got u a keyboard?
[21:06] <yto> gvo, i dont understand the text in this file. can you help me?
[21:06] <hitsujiTMO> yto: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:07] <gvo> First it gets rebuilt every time you boot, so looking at it now won't do anything for you.  You must reboot single user, go to the end of the file and look for error messages.
[21:07] <gvo> hitsujiTMO: That won't tell him why it didn't shutdown the last time.
[21:07] <washuu_de> hitsuji knows how. I'd only say "pastebin, please"
[21:08] <yto> gvo , hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6636102/
[21:09] <gvo> Doesn't tell us a thing.
[21:10] <gvo> yto shutdown, boot single user, copy the Xorg.log.0 (or whatever) file somewhere to save it and boot normally.  Then pastebin that file.
[21:11] <yto> gvo, ok
[21:11] <Ninja-Duck> bonjour, j'aurais besoin d'aide par rapport à un driver wifi
[21:11] <gvo> Not that I expect to see anything since he did try to shutdown lightdm and reboot which didn't work nor did it hang in shutting down the dm but it's worth a shot.
[21:12] <qin> !fr | Ninja-Duck
[21:12] <hitsujiTMO> yto: gvo: my apologies. Presumed it was a booting issue
[21:12] <gvo> Shutdown hang
[21:12] <Florch> Hola
[21:13] <Florch> asdfg
[21:14] <mamed> no drm device found . while trying to run weston on ubuntu 13.04
[21:14] <shortstraw8> Is there a way to "upgrade" and only keep certain personal files. I have some stuff that will roll over like -wine- that I don't want anymore but I have tons of videos and other file and pics that I don't want to lose or burn to disk. I am not seeing this option anywhere as I try to upgrade, I have seen pinning and using makedev, but these do not relate to me. Any help would be great.
[21:14] <hay> hi! I have a HP DL360G6 server that I have just installed 13.10 to and it has just one interface, em1... when I connect a cable from second LAN interface, the light for the NIC is on and the port on the access switch is up, however there is no message about the port state in syslog... I also get message that interface is not found when trying ifconfig em2, em3 etc... any ideas would be very
[21:14] <hay> welcome :)
[21:15] <qin> shortstraw8: is your home on separate partition?
[21:15] <herp> qin, Meerkat: thanks, but unfortunately only checking "Connect to wireless and ethernet networks" does not suffice. Normal user is still unable to connect to new wireless network. "System policy prevents modification of network settings for all users". But I dont even want to set it for all users. Only the current user.
[21:16] <shortstraw8> qin, Nope unless it does it automatically on install, but i have never done that.
[21:16] <Meerkat> herp, I think that user has to logout and log back in for permissions to update. Forgot to mention that.
[21:16] <herp> Meerkat: tried restar already
[21:16] <herp> restart
[21:16] <qin> shortstraw8: it does not...
[21:17] <FluxD> Hi, is it possible to run 32bit .so file on 64bit ?
[21:17] <shortstraw8> qin,  so just make a partition and put my homefiles in it then update the system right? Just want to make sure.
[21:18] <ClientAlive> There are two things I'd like to know about: (1) In system settings > online accounts, is there any way to add more things to the list off stuff in the right hand pane (eg: bitbucket)? And (2) Is there a way to make windows lanuch aligned with the center of the screen instead of the upper left corner (ie: all/every window, always)?
[21:19] <qin> shortstraw8: if you have space for new partition, sure. If you intend to resize something you wouldwant to make back up first
[21:19] <yto> gvo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6636154/
[21:19] <shortstraw8> qin, ok thank you.
[21:20] <qin> shortstraw8: while installing just make sure to choose manual partitioning and avoid formatting storage partition
[21:20] <hay> where to look for a solution when one NIC is missing in the system although port is UP - is should be em2 I suppose but the system has only em1?
[21:20] <gvo> yto it was worth a shot, but there's nothing significant in that log.
[21:21] <yto> gvo, when sudo shoutdown -h now the output is : acpid:exiting      speech-dispatcher disabled; edit /etc/default/speech-dispatcher
[21:21] <gvo> yto what's failing could very well be happening after the local files have been unmouted.  In that case there would be no info.
[21:21] <chrubuntu>  trying to get chrubuntu working on my acer c7. it downloads all the packages apparently but still boots to chromeos
[21:22] <gvo> yto those are pretty normal messages.
[21:23] <qin> hay: what is em1 and em2
[21:24] <chrubuntu> is there some place i can get support, free or paid?
[21:24] <hay> qin, I have 2 LAN network interfaces on a server.. one is found and this is em1, however the second one is not anywhere... although when I connect a LAN cable to it the light on it is on and port is up on the access switch...
[21:25] <qin> chrubuntu: /j #chrubuntu there is someone there
[21:25] <hay> qin, and there is no "em2" anywhere in the dmesg, only "em1".. both interfaces are enabled in bios
[21:26] <qin> chrubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2136230
[21:26] <gvo> hay do you find both in lspci?
[21:28] <gvo> hay what version of Ubuntu shows em? as an ethernet interface?
[21:30] <hay> gvo, it's 13.10 installed on that machine
[21:30] <gvo> OK.
[21:31] <gvo> hay does lspci show two network cards?
[21:32] <hay> well... not after the reboot both are there... I just disabled and enabled both in BIOS again to be sure
[21:32] <hay> thanks for your time and sorry for bothering :)
[21:32] <hay> gvo, now it does, just checked
[21:33] <hay> didn't check before that reboot when only one was avail
[21:33] <gvo> But they don't show up in ifconfig -a?
[21:33] <gvo> So problem solved?
[21:34] <hay> gvo, yup. Solved. thx!
[21:38] <Lunar_Lander> evening and merry christmas! I got a new computer with 16 GB RAM instead of 2 GB and I wanted to ask if Ubuntu 12.04 can use it (I have the x86 version)? I read that PAE is the important thing but I found differing statements, saying it is default in 12.04 or in 12.10
[21:38] <Lunar_Lander> system monitor shows me 15.3 GB RAM usable
[21:39] <MathersMarshall> I'm guessing it is using the RAM that it sees
[21:39] <Lunar_Lander> OK
[21:39] <qin> Lunar_Lander: leave 90's, get 64 bit.
[21:39] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[21:39] <MathersMarshall> ^^What qin said :P
[21:39] <Lunar_Lander> so backup everything on HDD2, wipe HDD1 and get x64? :)
[21:40] <MathersMarshall> x64 ftw
[21:40] <MathersMarshall> I'm on a 32 bit though. Intel Atom -_-
[21:41] <MathersMarshall> It's my only Ubuntu computer though. My main laptop runs Windows Vista
[21:41] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[21:42] <chrubunt_> can anyone help me w chrubuntu on a c7 chromebook?
[21:42] <qin> MathersMarshall: Is Vista still suported?
[21:42] <Lunar_Lander> yea I got myself 11.10 x86 back them, I just got it because I knew my PC would run it, didn't check what you'd need for x64 back in the days
[21:42] <Lunar_Lander> wonder if a Core2Duo was x64 ready
[21:42] <MathersMarshall> qin: I'm not even sure, I know WinXP is until next year.
[21:42] <Lunar_Lander> qin, yes, Win XP support runs out now
[21:42] <Lunar_Lander> but Vista for sure, "just" came out in 2006
[21:43] <MathersMarshall> With Ubuntu, I don't have to worry about product lifecycles/purchasing a new copy of windows or upgrading my hardware.
[21:43] <Lunar_Lander> yeah
[21:43] <MathersMarshall> Suck on that, OEM's.
[21:43] <MathersMarshall> ^_^
[21:43] <OerHeks> lscpu should tell you that.
[21:43] <MathersMarshall> Hell, my grandmother is even running Linux on an old P1 Using puppy linux :3
[21:43] <chrubunt_> can anyone recommend reasonable pay support for linux?
[21:44] <Lunar_Lander> I just had that discussion with a friend, that I today installed Vista on my old PC to give it back to my dad who loaned it to me
[21:44] <Lunar_Lander> and she said "I don't know the difference between Vista and 7" and I "Ah yea, you told me you are a linuxer as well" :)
[21:44] <qin> chrubunt_: have you checked link i have posted?
[21:44] <chrubunt_> qin: missed it - scrolling up
[21:45] <Lunar_Lander> but she uses Suse
[21:45] <Lunar_Lander> xD
[21:45] <qin> chrubunt_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2136230
[21:46] <qin> chrubunt_: there is also channel #chrubuntu
[21:46] <Lunar_Lander> qin, and MathersMarshall a question just crossed my mind, do I have to wipe my HDD1 (would take time as it is 2 TB big) or can I just, after backup, put in a 12.04 x64 disc and "overwrite" the x86 system?
[21:48] <MathersMarshall> Wait did you say 2TB? o_o
[21:48] <Lunar_Lander> yea
[21:48] <MathersMarshall> I envy you sir.
[21:48] <MathersMarshall> or madaam.
[21:48] <Lunar_Lander> sir xD
[21:48] <MathersMarshall> Well, I envy you.
[21:48] <MathersMarshall> ._.
[21:48] <Lunar_Lander> yeah I got an external HDD and ripped it open and got a Toshiba 2TB drive
[21:48] <Lunar_Lander> :P
[21:49] <MathersMarshall> Ah, you just ripped the HDD from the enclosure then?
[21:49] <qin> Lunar_Lander: shredding 2Tb would be highlight of ocd, you can simply repartiion and have a home and data on separate partitions with future upgrades/reinstalson the horizon
[21:49] <Lunar_Lander> ok
[21:49] <Lunar_Lander> yeah would figure that, I think shredding would take a whole day
[21:49] <Lunar_Lander> MathersMarshall, yeah
[21:50] <MathersMarshall> Nice :P I'm thinking of getting me an external HDD
[21:50] <Lunar_Lander> I opened the case, pulled the drive from that SATA-USB board and then put it into the PC
[21:54] <Lunar_Lander> MathersMarshall, yea, Saturn (electronics shop) currently stocks the 2 TB ones again, for again 80 euro, but also has 3 and 4 TB for I think 110 and 140 euros
[21:54] <christopher> hi everybody :)
[21:54] <Lunar_Lander> I looked at a WD MyBook 3 TB (or so) but didn't buy it as I read reports of ubuntu not recognizing the drive
[21:54] <mamed> hello guys. where to find fbdev-backend.so
[21:55] <kostkon> !find fbdev-backend.so
[21:56] <mamed> kostkon, i did say i could not find the file on my system
[21:56] <kostkon> mamed, why are you looking for that file
[21:57] <mamed> kostkon, i have ubuntu on virtualbox and want to try wayland weston
[21:58] <mamed> so drm s not supported and some guys in wayland room said that i can use fbdev-backend.so lib
[21:58] <mamed> but this does not in /usr/libi386.../weston/ dir
[22:01] <kostkon> mamed, yeah only the version in 14.04 contains that file it seems http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/i386/weston/filelist
[22:01] <kostkon> mamed, olders versions don't
[22:01] <mamed> hmm
[22:01] <mamed> ok thanks
[22:01] <Guest84150> kostkon: are you swedish?
[22:02] <kostkon> Guest84150, nope
[22:02] <mamed> why did u asl guest?
[22:02] <mamed> ask*
[22:02] <Guest84150> haha okay. no but "kostkon" means "foodcow" in swedish ^^
[22:02] <kostkon> Guest84150, really? wow
[22:03] <Guest84150> yes haha :)
[22:03] <mamed> afaik food is mat in sweidsh
[22:03] <mamed> mat = food , meal dinner
[22:03] <Guest84150> yes, kost is a synonym :)
[22:03] <MathersMarshall> Lol Kostkon XD
[22:04] <Guest84150> haha
[22:04] <kostkon> :(
[22:04] <Guest84150> why did you take that name? ^^
[22:04] <mamed> kost is verb means cpst in english
[22:04] <mamed> hur kostar det:P
[22:05] <MathersMarshall> Vista ends support on April 11, 2017
[22:05] <MathersMarshall> Just looked it up :p
[22:05] <Guest84150> mamed: hah, yes that too... but I'm swedish so I think I know it..
[22:05] <mamed> yeah i know . and i am a swedish learner
[22:05] <mamed> well i was**
[22:06] <mamed> nice and easy lang also old i think
[22:06] <Guest84150> mamed: ah fun! whats your language?
[22:06] <mamed> native turkish
[22:06] <c_korn> hello, why does libsdl-ttf2.0-dev not provide libSDL2_ttf-2.0.so.0 ?
[22:07] <ikonia> c_korn: the dev packages are headers
[22:08] <c_korn> ikonia: oh yeah, sorry. actually I meant libsdl-ttf2.0-0 (the dev package just depends on it)
[22:08] <ikonia> c_korn because libsdl is not libsdl2
[22:09] <c_korn> ikonia: but why isn't there a libsdl2-ttf2.0-0 ? (like libsdl2-image-dev or libsdl2-mixer-dev)
[22:09] <Jazayri> Hi, i have sound output in vlc but not in clementine !
[22:10] <ikonia> c_korn: no idea, I'd have to look into what each package provides and why/how
[22:12] <c_korn> ikonia: just found bug 1214922 . I don't think it will be backported to saucy :/
[22:15] <yangwi>  cc1plus: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set      when trying to compile seeborg-0.51 using     make      and -march=pentium , how can I solve this problem?
[22:15] <plewh> exit
[22:19] <yangwi>  cc1plus: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set      when trying to compile seeborg-0.51 using     make      and -march=pentium , how can I solve this problem?
[22:24] <yangwi>  cc1plus: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set      when trying to compile seeborg-0.51 using     make      and -march=pentium , how can I solve this problem?
[22:26] <Susning> Suggestion for application to open, edit and save PDF-documents? Not just a reader....?
[22:29] <yangwi>  cc1plus: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set      when trying to compile seeborg-0.51 using     make      and -march=pentium , how can I solve this problem?
[22:30] <gvo> Susning: pdfedit
[22:31] <Susning> gvo, thanks
[22:31] <SaberX01> !pdf | Susning,
[22:32] <BigWig__> hey, some sort of problem with ALSA(?) I think, can anyone make sense of this: http://pastebin.com/dPhm9CL4
[22:33] <SaberX01> Susning, Here's a pretty comprehensive list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PDF_software#Unix_and_Linux
[22:35] <pabs3> does rsync on Ubuntu lucid support any of the --delete* options? I'm trying to use them and getting an unknown option error.
[22:37] <SaberX01> yangwi, Try using -march=i686 flag during configure
[22:39] <pabs3> hrm, the rsync manual page says it does and the binary --help output does too.
[22:40] <kostkon> BigWig__, when trying to run alsamixer?
[22:40] <BigWig__> Yeah
[22:40] <BigWig__> It happens with anything audio
[22:41] <hitsujiTMO> BigWig__: have you tried deleting ~/.asoundrc ?
[22:41] <kostkon> BigWig__, it suggests "/home/paul/.asoundrc may be old or corrupted: consider to remove or fix it"
[22:42] <kostkon> BigWig__, move the file to another place, then reload alsa maybe or reboot
[22:43] <BigWig__> Woo!
[22:43] <BigWig__> It's working!
[22:43] <BigWig__> Thank you!
[22:44] <kostkon> nice
[22:57] <andrebfc> ciao
[23:05] <demon^eye> how do i change program defualt opening files?
[23:05] <helo_n> hello all. I've just installed Bumblebee on my new Dell XPS 15 (2013), and tried to install Bumblebee.. it looks like everything installed okay, but when I try to use optirun, it says: [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: Could not load GPU driver
[23:05] <demon^eye> i mean i want to change file association opening
[23:06] <helo_n> I followed the directions on the Bumblebee Ubuntu wiki page, and I updated to nvidia-updates-319.. but still no luck.
[23:07] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: whats not working? did you relog so that your account is loaded with the bumblebee group?
[23:07] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO: I haven't tried that yet. So i just need to relog?
[23:08] <helo_n> brb, let me try that
[23:08] <Raimondi> Hi there. 'sudo /etc/init.d/transmission-daemon stop' just restarts the transmission, any pointers as to where to look to fix that? I just a somewhat ignorant newbie
[23:08] <Raimondi> I'm*
[23:11] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO: I relogged, but same thing
[23:11] <donvlto> how can i find were a file for example cccam.cfg were is located?
[23:11] <somsip> donvlto: locate cccam.cfg
[23:12] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: what command are you executing and whats the result?
[23:12] <donvlto> somsip
[23:12] <donvlto> it gives me nothing
[23:12] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/QLzEJ7fW
[23:12] <hitsujiTMO> donvlto: sudo find / -name cccam.cfg
[23:12] <helo_n> I'm running optirun -vv firefox
[23:13] <somsip> donvlto: sudo find / -name cccam.cfg will do it but will be more intensive
[23:13] <maujhsn> Hello folks! I'm running ubuntu-12.04 on a liveUSB. I ran dmesg and am concerned about this message readout:
[23:13] <maujhsn> (loop1): warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended
[23:13] <maujhsn> [   16.602503] EXT3-fs (loop1): using internal journal...How do i correct the problem?
[23:14] <RiotingPacifist> in my polkit policies it is set to allow_active, however this does not seem to be working, ideas?
[23:15] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: can you pastebin the output of: lspci              and: cat /etc/bumblebee/*
[23:16] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: bumblebee may be configured for the wrong bus
[23:16] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/Li4CjV8a
[23:18] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: also can you paste the output of: groups
[23:18] <helo_n> http://pastebin.com/SPU7y9vz
[23:18] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/SPU7y9vz
[23:19] <helo_n> helo adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare bumblebee
[23:22] <hitsujiTMO> hmm, bus is correct. I notice the http://pastebin.com/QLzEJ7fW has references for nvidia-304 but you have bumblebee configured for nvidia-319-updates. can you pastebin the output of: dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia
[23:23] <adas> hi! can anyone give me advice on how to get rtorrent to start on boot on ubuntu?
[23:23] <hitsujiTMO> adas: you dont. you use transmission instead
[23:24] <adas> hitsujiTMO: why is transmission better
[23:24] <adas> hitsujiTMO: can u run it in terminal?
[23:24] <hitsujiTMO> adas: yes. yes. and even better... it has a web interface
[23:24] <adas> :o
[23:24] <adas> but I have no x window on my ubuntu server
[23:24] <hitsujiTMO> adas: install transmission-daemon for the web interface
[23:25] <adas> hitsujiTMO: I will definetly try it, but now I already configured my rtorrent, do you know a way to start it on boot?
[23:26] <hitsujiTMO> adas: takes a small bit to configure. gotta watch out that the daemon needs to be stopped when editing the settings file manually.
[23:26] <adas> :o
[23:27] <hitsujiTMO> adas: i don't. i gave up on trying to configure rtorrent when i discovered transmission
[23:27] <adas> hitsujiTMO: aight ill get transmission now, brb
[23:28] <adas> hitsujiTMO: is there a special version that runs in terminal?
[23:28] <adas> like -nox or something
[23:28] <hitsujiTMO> adas: transmission-cli i think is cli only. transmission-daemon is cli + web interface
[23:29] <hitsujiTMO> abas: both of those packages do not require x
[23:29] <adas> transmission-daemon it is then
[23:30] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/dVBcrMbj
[23:31] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-304 && sudo apt-get install --reinstall bumblebee-nvidia
[23:32] <adas> hitsujiTMO: what file do I configure
[23:32] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO: done. do I relog now?
[23:33] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: reboot.
[23:33] <helo_n> k
[23:33] <helo_n> brb
[23:35] <hitsujiTMO> adas: /etc/transmission-daemon/settings.json         just ensure that the daemon is stopped otherwise it will overwrite what you change. sudo service transmission-daemon stop
[23:35] <adas> thanks mate
[23:36] <maujhsn> Hello folks! I'm running ubuntu-12.04 on a liveUSB. I ran dmesg and am concerned about this message readout: http://pastebin.com/NhZCK5be...How do i correct the problem?
[23:37] <hitsujiTMO> adas: info on the options are here https://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/EditConfigFiles
[23:37] <adas> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[23:38] <kostkon> maujhsn, "paste has been removed" better paste it here http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:38] <hitsujiTMO> maujhsn: if by the message you mean "This paste has been removed!" then you pix it by reuploading the paste
[23:38] <hitsujiTMO> s/pix/fix
[23:42] <jhutchins> maujhsn: It looks like it took care of the problem, but you might want to do sudo shutdown -Fr now to reboot and check the filesystem.
[23:42] <maujhsn> kostkon, hitsujiTMO, Thanks!
[23:43] <maujhsn> Hello folks! I'm running ubuntu-12.04 on a liveUSB. I ran dmesg and am concerned about this message readout: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6636713/...How do i correct the problem?
[23:43] <lubuntu> hi
[23:43] <jhutchins> kostkon: By clerverly trimming the part that's not URL it's easy to reach.
[23:44] <jhutchins> maujhsn: It's better to use paste.ubuntu.com, and try to leave a space after the URL so it's easier to copy and paste.
[23:44] <jhutchins> maujhsn: It looks like it took care of the problem, but you might want to do sudo shutdown -Fr now to reboot and check the filesystem.
[23:44] <kostkon> jhutchins, ooopsie
[23:44] <Guest24488> i want to make ubuntu livecd work from a fat32 usb harddisk with a casper-rw file persistence. is this possible? I have copied the casper directory (from lubuntu iso) to  the fat32 device and managed to boot is
[23:45] <maujhsn> jhutchins, I give that a shot! But, what is the "-FR" switch?
[23:45] <jhutchins> maujhsn: You might want to install and enable smartmontools.  If you continue to see errors it's time for a new disk.
[23:46] <jazzkutya> i want to make ubuntu livecd work from a fat32 usb harddisk with a casper-rw file persistence on same device. is this possible? I have copied the casper directory (from lubuntu iso) to  the fat32 device and managed to boot it. this is a netbook, no cd/dvd drive.
[23:46] <jhutchins> maujhsn: F forces fsck, r means reboot as opposed to h for halt.
[23:46] <jhutchins> maujhsn: The manpage for shutdown is informative and fairly interesting.
[23:47] <jhutchins> jazzkutya: Why does it have to be fat32?
[23:47] <jazzkutya> jhutchins, because i don't want to reformat this usb-harddisk
[23:48] <Beldar> jazzkutya, Many usb loaders have a persistent option up to 4 gigs, however you can make a larger casper-rw partition.
[23:49] <maujhsn> jhutchins I will  give it a shot usually I use, "sudo shutdown -h now"!
[23:49] <jazzkutya> Beldar, please define or elaborate "usb loader"
[23:49] <Beldar> jazzkutya, iso to usb with boot
[23:50] <jazzkutya> Beldar, oh you are talking about usb creators... everyone I've read about up to now erases the drive. that is not good for me.
[23:50] <Lunar_Lander> short question, If I want to upgrade to x64 from x86 now, shall I go for 12.04 or 13.10? and will 14.04 then replace 12.04 as LTS?
[23:50] <hitsujiTMO> jazzkutya: unetbootin doesnt
[23:50] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO: That broke everything. After restarting and then logging in, I get a blank black screen
[23:51] <helo_n> I have the laptop rebooted in the recovery menu now.
[23:51] <jazzkutya> hitsujiTMO, thx, will investigate unetbootin more
[23:51] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: delete any /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:51] <adas> hitsujiTMO: so i can now apt-get remove rtorrent
[23:52] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO: I don't think I'm good enough with command line to do that.. can you walk me through it?
[23:52] <helo_n> should I select root shell prompt?
[23:52] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:52] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: ahh you in busybox?
[23:52] <kostkon> Lunar_Lamp, if you want an lts installation right now go with 12.04, if you can wait 4-5 months for 14.04, the next lts, go with 13.10
[23:52] <kostkon> damn
[23:52] <kostkon> Lunar_Lander, ^^
[23:53] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:53] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO: No I'm at the main menu of recovery mode
[23:53] <helo_n> Say no such directory
[23:53] <helo_n> says no such file or directory*
[23:54] <hitsujiTMO> !text | helo_n try this
[23:55] <Lunar_Lander> thanks kostkon
[23:55] <Lunar_Lander> ah and what is that thing about the Amazon lens in 12.10? is that still in?
[23:55] <kostkon> Lunar_Lander, 13.10? yes, but you can turn it off easily
[23:55] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[23:56] <Lunar_Lander> yeah just found it
[23:56] <Lunar_Lander> disable "use online search results"
[23:56] <Lunar_Lander> is that is?
[23:56] <aFeijo> hi
[23:56] <Lunar_Lander> *it
[23:56] <kostkon> Lunar_Lamp, yes for all the online searches. alternatively, you can turn off any scopes you want individually
[23:56] <Lunar_Lander> ah ok
[23:56] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: once in text mode you can log in as normal
[23:57] <Lunar_Lander> yeah I just read in the wikipedia that this amazon thing was added from 12.10 on and was considered an issue among people
[23:57] <aFeijo> I need to perma-map my network storage device. I installed mount.nfs, added a line in fstab, but it still dont work...
[23:57] <hitsujiTMO> helo_n: do you have an ethernet cable you can used to get the laptop on the net?
[23:57] <Lunar_Lander> thanks kostkon !
[23:57] <kostkon> Lunar_Lamp, to access the scopes list, click on Filter results in the dash or something like that
[23:57] <Lunar_Lander> ah ok, thanks :)
[23:58] <helo_n> hitsujiTMO: the laptop doesn't have an ethernet port.. I have to use wifi
[23:59] <helo_n> I don't see the kernel line... what am I missing?