[08:36] <desertc> qman: dgjones: Thank you!
[08:37] <warbler> jambon: here is a howto - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[08:37] <Hexxeh> Is this link working for anyone else? https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.40.4-x86.x86_64.run
[08:38] <warbler> Hexxeh: that goes to a .bin file - windows stuff
[08:39] <Nallep> !nautilus
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <warbler> !gnome
[08:39] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[08:40] <jambon> warbler: does this work the same if I don't want to use both monitors but just one?
[08:40] <zcat[1]> ok, reinstalling just about all the gtk stuff..
[08:40] <zcat[1]> fscking nvidia binary installers
[08:41] <ubud> can anyone tell me what is the default path or directory for firefox, I need to key in for gmail notifier
[08:41] <warbler> jambon: I couldn't say - just googled "dual monitors in ubuntu" and had a quick read
[08:41] <todorova> k
[08:41] <zcat[1]> zcat@fluffy:~$ which firefox
[08:41] <zcat[1]> /usr/bin/firefox
[08:42] <ubud> thanks
[08:42] <telmich> hello
[08:43] <telmich> after updating to 7.10 I've several problems: the xscreensaver seems to be removed and trying to start system->preferences->appearance results in an error that "gnome-settings-daemon' cannot be started
[08:43] <telmich> although starting it manually works
[08:44] <telmich> also the decorations of the windows look pretty different; the remote control of the imac does not work anymore either
[08:44] <Hexxeh> warbler: I meant the download itself sorry, it works for me now anyway, gonna try and install it now.
[08:44] <Nallep> ubud: you want the firefox bin? or the home users firefox config? ~/.mozilla/firefox
[08:44] <warbler> Hexxeh: k
[08:46] <Hexxeh> Oh lovely
[08:46] <Hexxeh> It brings up a big GUI thing with two options, but the okay button is off the bottom of my screen because it's so damn low res
[08:46] <comicinker> hi! it happens very often that I can't use my keyboard in nautlilus or other gnome applications. I switched from german Interface to english interface shortly ago, and now I have this problem. I also use scim with japanese input method, but in kde apps there are no problems.
[08:46] <Andycasss> Why doesnt my power management save the settings i set for it? Even if i set the screen not to go blank, it still does
[08:47] <Hexxeh> Any ideas how I can get round this?
[08:48] <jambon> great.....now avant crashes when I try to use it
[08:48] <jambon> anyone got any ideas on why my computer hates me so much?
[08:48] <jambon> or why ubuntu hates dual monitors?
[08:49] <Nallep> !why-does-ubuntu-hate-jambon
[08:50] <roxlu> hi
[08:50] <roxlu> how can I change the default boot option in the bootmenu?
[08:50] <Vov4ik> How i can view processes?
[08:50] <world> Can anyone tell me how to fix an error that firefox does not know what to do with phtml?
[08:50] <warbler> Hexxeh: press alt with the cursor key near the bottom, then move the cursor up
[08:50] <Ademan> hey is the best way to prepend text to a file to use the cat command? (in this case the gpl)  like   cat /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2 /home/me/my_file > /home/me/my_file    ?
[08:50] <roxlu> world: what is phtml?
[08:50] <oxeimon> whats the name of the open source ati driver?
[08:50] <Vov4ik> >>>>>>>> How i can view processes?
[08:51] <jambon> it's just that the tutorial for dual monitor was for feisty, and gutsy is supposed to have better support
[08:51] <Vov4ik> !process
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about process - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <Vov4ik> !help
[08:51] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:51] <jambon> I guess I seemed to have either proved that wrong or provided yet another example of how I managed to screw things up without any effort whatsoever
[08:52] <warbler> Vov4ik: in terminal type "top"
[08:52] <pw--> having a bit of a problem with azureus, adding a torrent made it crash, now every time i boot it, it also crashes, tried an uninstall/reinstall, torrents are still there. is there any way to remove those torrents without doing it through azureus?
[08:52] <Vov4ik> warbler, thank you
[08:52] <warbler> k
[08:52] <buttercups> Vov4ik, or system>admin>system monitor
[08:52] <Vov4ik> i haven't graphics mode
[08:52] <buttercups> k
[08:53] <Nallep> Vov4ik: you can also use System Monitor
[08:53] <Vov4ik> hmm, i can't find my process
[08:53] <Vov4ik> its psybnc & eggdrop'
[08:53] <jambon> I mean, now not only is my resolution worse than it was, AWN doesn't show anymore
[08:53] <Nallep> Vov4ik: or type ps in a prompt
[08:53] <stefan> Hello :)
[08:53] <Nallep> man ps
[08:53] <world> roxlu I have no. I only know I can't open drupal without it.
[08:54] <jambon> would anyone have a clue? I just want to get back to my old crappy state, not this even worse one
[08:54] <oxeimon> does anyone here have compiz working w/ the open source ati drivers?
[08:54] <roxlu> world: you need to install apache with PHP
[08:54] <warbler> jambon: hang on - brb
[08:54] <rainrunner87> Hello all, just installed Xubuntu Gutsy on my Inspiron 6400 with an encrypted LVM, but on boot, it gives me a black screen immediately after grub and does nothing.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
[08:54] <stefan> what is the best irc-client for linux ? :)
[08:55] <CubeXombi> Oxeimon... I just did,
[08:55] <rainrunner87> stefan: I've always liked xchat
[08:55] <PriceChild> !best | stefan
[08:55] <ubotu> stefan: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[08:55] <Hexxeh> warbler: On part of that forum guide you linked, it says to run: "sudo dpkg -i fglrx-control_8.32.5-1*.deb"
[08:55] <Hexxeh> But I don't have anything like that file
[08:55] <Hexxeh> Is it safe to ignore it?
[08:55] <inversekinetix> how do you set file associations in ubuntu?
[08:55] <dgjones> stefan, its subjective, I like xchat (not xchat-gnome) but a lot of people recommend irssi
[08:55] <CubeXombi> Oxeimon... I followed this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=592016
[08:55] <Hexxeh> I do however have fglrx-amdcccle_8.40.4-1_i386.deb which it doesn't mention.
[08:55] <inversekinetix> without the open with command
[08:55] <stefan> rainrunner87: thats what i'm running atm but i cant figure out how to get the userlist on the side, now i have to klick on it to open it
[08:55] <dawn> 有没有中国人？
[08:56] <comicinker> inversekinetix: right click on the file
[08:56] <Vov4ik> help meee
 <-psyBNC> Fri Oct 26 10:55:25 :Received TERMINATE signal from terminal
 <-psyBNC> Fri Oct 26 10:55:25 :Program Context : src/p_log.c/oldfile Line 315
[08:56] <Nallep> inversekinetic: right click the file->properties
[08:56] <warbler> Hexxeh: is there an earlier step that would install it?
[08:56] <world> roxlu I have everything installed I need
[08:56] <inversekinetix> thahnks
[08:56] <Vov4ik> he's dont shutting down
[08:56] <Vov4ik> x(
[08:56] <inversekinetix> 日本語喋れる？
[08:56] <oxeimon> CubeXombi: I just disabled fglrx and installed the open source ati driver. Things seem to be running a lot slower, is that what you've found as well?
[08:56] <Andycasss> Why doesnt my power management save the settings i set for it? Even if i set the screen not to go blank, it still does
[08:56] <Hexxeh> warbler: Not as far as I can tell.
[08:56] <dgjones> stefan, do you have xchat or xchat-gnome, they're slightly different, xchat should just let you drag the slider bar to left to show the userlist
[08:56] <rainrunner87> stefan: open the preferences window and then click on the User list item in the categories list
[08:56] <Hexxeh> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=321766&highlight=how+to+xgl+session
[08:56] <Hexxeh> I'm there.
[08:57] <stefan> i have xchat gnome, whats the diff ?
[08:57] <zcat[1]> ok, I'm getting two lines in .xsession-errors of "(process:16714): Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid." -- but NO CLUE what program is casuing the fault (an since GTK doesn't want to run suid root, the program immediately quites so liiking up the PID is useless
[08:57] <comicinker> いえ、話せません。;)
[08:57] <zcat[1]> RAGE#@!!!!
[08:57] <inversekinetix> なるほどごめんね
[08:57] <Hexxeh> Hmm, may as well install it, I can remove it if it doesn't go wrong
[08:57] <dgjones> stefan, i'm not sure of the exact difference between the two, just that xchat seems slightly easier
[08:57] <Hexxeh> It won't have generated it without a reason.
[08:58] <warbler> Hexxeh: give it a go - did you back up the Xorg file?
[08:58] <inversekinetix> i hated pidgin
[08:58] <comicinker> please help: I can't use my keyboard in most gnome applications. I switched from german Interface to english interface shortly ago
[08:58] <CubeXombi> Oxeimon: with the open Drivers? no real issue. Actually I just double checked .. looks like I'm still using the open drivers
[08:58] <oxeimon> does compiz run slower on the open source drivers than on fglrx?
[08:58] <Hexxeh> warbler: Yep
[08:58] <Hexxeh> brb
[08:58] <stefan> hmm okey  ,  cant find the categorie-list in xchat-gnome, is it possible that option only excists in xchat ?
[08:58] <rainrunner87> stefan: there isn't a difference in the actual backend, but the frontend on xchat-gnome is different.  I prefer standard xchat, which can be selected in add/remove or synaptic
[08:59] <stefan> ok , i'll install xchat and come back in 20 seconds or so
[08:59] <stefan> bye bye
[08:59] <oxeimon> CubeXombi: what are your system specs, are you using compiz?
[08:59] <inversekinetix> where can i find my Xorg file and why should I back it up (im new,  36 hours on linux)
[09:00] <world> CAn anyone tell me how to get firefox to open phtml?
[09:00] <buttercups> inversekinetix, /etc/X11
[09:00] <CubeXombi> Oxeimon, I'm on a Celeron 1.6 Laptop w/768M (64 Shared to my ATI Radeon Mobility 200M)
[09:01] <oxeimon> CubeXombi: Do you know if the mobility 200M is worse than the x300?
[09:01] <dgjones> inversekinetix, /etc/X11/xorg.conf (be carefull with the capital X in X11)
[09:01] <oxeimon> CubeXombi: I got my laptop in 2005
[09:01] <warbler> jambon: been loohing for a howto but gutsy is new... - do you know "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ? (I'd like a dollar for every time I've typed that!)
[09:01] <inversekinetix> why is it so important?
[09:01] <warbler> *looking
[09:02] <CubeXombi> Ohh I'd imagine its worse, bought my laptop back in 2003
[09:02] <stefan> ah this even has the list on the side like i wanted it = )
[09:02] <rainrunner87> So, does anyone have any guesses about why my dell is giving me a completely black screen when I first boot my new xubuntu gutsy installation?  Goes black right after grub.
[09:02] <oxeimon> CubeXombi: and you're running compiz fine with the open source driver?
[09:02] <dgjones> stefan, its just experience, you slowly find the app's that suit you best :)
[09:03]  * abhibera is enjoying Compiz on Gutsy
[09:03] <Vov4ik> How i can change my password?
[09:03] <stefan> i suppose so , just started with linux a few weeks ago but i'm starting to understand it a bit more now :)
[09:03] <darkhack> woohoo, my 7 time trying to install ati 8.42.3 and finally got it working
[09:04] <Wisteso> a
[09:04] <buttercups> inversekinetix, it gives you your graphical User Interface
[09:04] <stefan> lol gratz m8 ;D
[09:04] <inversekinetix> Vov  system >>> administration  >> users and groups
[09:04] <comicinker> Vov4ik: system->preferences->about me
[09:04] <inversekinetix> thanks buttercups,
[09:04] <darkhack> aiglx finally
[09:04] <CubeXombi> Oxeimon: yup. sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager is the first entry i typed into console.. since install, it just worked. from the start.
[09:04] <Vov4ik> comicinker, im don't using graphics x( i'm in kde
[09:04] <warbler> rainrunner87: try this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=580929
[09:05] <darkhack> amd should give themselves a pad on the back
[09:05] <darkhack> lol
[09:05] <oxeimon> CubeXombi: can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[09:05] <zcat[1]> ok, I'm getting two lines in .xsession-errors of "(process:16714): Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid." -- but NO CLUE what program is casuing the fault (an since GTK doesn't want to run suid root, the program immediately quites so liiking up the PID is useless. HELP?!!
[09:05] <jambon> warbler: did that several times
[09:05] <jambon> but I'll try again
[09:05] <warbler> k
[09:06] <albech> where is the bittorrent client installed?
[09:06] <darkhack> sa, does anyone know if ubuntu develope ever going to update compiz-fusion
[09:06] <warbler> jambon: which driver do you select?
[09:06] <Andycasss> Is there a shortcut to get to the desktop or something?
[09:06] <luddite> hi all
[09:06] <darkhack> compiz-fusion 0.6.0 finally release sometime ago
[09:06] <Andycasss> Basically like the alt ctrl 1-7 but i just want to get to desktop without closing a full screen app
[09:06] <inversekinetix> albech i think its just a file handler, it will start when you click on a torrent file
[09:07] <zcat[1]> also Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". -- I've installed the nvidia drivers, I get the logo when gdm starts up. wtf?!!
[09:07] <luddite>  when i start ubuntu i get a error of disk read, Ctrl+D breaks it and load rusumes as per usual
[09:07] <inversekinetix> if you want a gui, i suggest Ktorrent, its working excellently for me
[09:07] <albech> inversekinetix: ahh that makes sense.. i wanted to read the ports it used
[09:07] <Vov4ik> How i can change my password?
[09:07] <CubeXombi> Oxeimon, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42204/
[09:07] <warbler> Andycasss: there is an applet bottom left
[09:07] <albech> inversekinetix: i dont need a fancy gui, just want a port range, so i can open up my firewall
[09:08] <warbler> Andycasss: bottom panel at the left
[09:08] <inversekinetix> Vov  system >>> administration  >> users and group
[09:08] <Vov4ik> inversekinetix, IM DONT USING GRAPHICS
[09:08] <inversekinetix> albech, sorry Im really new, i dont know how to find that in lnux , yet
 <Vov4ik> comicinker, im don't using graphics x( i'm in kde
 <Vov4ik> comicinker, im don't using graphics x( i'm in kde
 <Vov4ik> comicinker, im don't using graphics x( i'm in kde
 <Vov4ik> comicinker, im don't using graphics x( i'm in kde
[09:08] <inversekinetix> sorry Vov
[09:08] <Vov4ik> x(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
[09:08] <albech> inversekinetix: could check the logs on my firewall system, but would be easier just to look at the app setting
[09:08]  * Vov4ik bad
[09:08] <albech> inversekinetix: thats ok
[09:09] <Andycasss> Warbler: i cant see the menus, as im running a fullscreen app right now (mythtv)
[09:09] <inversekinetix> albech,  would https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2  help?
[09:09] <gandalfcome> I installed the new ati driver but my renderer still says mesa . Do I have to put something in the xorg.conf. thanks
[09:09] <Flynsarmy> Anyone know where to find STAC 92XX C-Major HD Audio audio drivers? ubuntu doesn't seem to support it by default :S
[09:10] <jambon> warbler: the ati one
[09:10] <FoSsiL> hey guess i have a weird problem. my windows machine can access my linux machine, but my linux cant access my windows machine. what did i missed?
[09:10] <jambon> going to try to restart the xserver now
[09:10] <jambon> brb
[09:10] <warbler> k
[09:11] <rainrunner87> warbler: xorg.conf only has those three lines, but it's using generic rather than the ATI drivers
[09:11] <inversekinetix> what is the command to find out what what renderer youre using?
[09:12] <albech> inversekinetix: thats ok, thanks. checking my log files
[09:12] <Ramah> I've been unable to run linux since I upgraded I got a core 2 duo processor with an intel945 chipset from gigabyte everytime I try to start the live cd it says (initramfs) then it starts trying to access ata1 (my cd-rom drive I believe) and gives me error codes like emask timeout then some hex 0x4 action frozen of timeout. Anyone familar with this bug?
[09:13] <warbler> rainrunner87: then you need to run " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg " and select the ati driver
[09:13] <Ramah> *of or
[09:13] <buttercups> inversekinetix, glxinfo | grep render ?
[09:13] <rainrunner87> warbler: Thanks, reconfig'ing now.
[09:14] <inversekinetix> thanks buttercups
[09:15] <princex> ramah, could the disk be bad ?
[09:15] <oxeimon> anyone have any idea why the open source ati driver is running slower than my previous restricted fglrx driver?
[09:16] <Ramah> pricex: the drive worked before my upgrade with my previous setup it is currently running a knoppix livecd
[09:17] <princex> ramah, im thinking the new you burned a cd and the new one isnt boting
[09:17] <princex> booting ..
[09:18] <rainrunner87> warbler: have a guess as to whether a standard american dell laptop keyboard would be a pc101 or pc104?  I'm thinking 104 for the presence of the windows key.
[09:18] <Andycasss> Why my display still goes blank when ive set it to never go blank from power management?
[09:18] <inversekinetix> how do i enable mp3 playback in rhythm box?
[09:18] <dgjones> !mp3 | inversekinetix
[09:18] <ubotu> inversekinetix: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:18] <Ramah> princex: I've burned 6.06, 6.10, 7.10, 7.10 amd64, pclinux os, and mandriva
[09:19] <warbler> rainrunner87: it should give an option already on the line - but go for 104
[09:19] <Ramah> princex: I burnt this knoppix unde r the current setup plus a damn small linux cd both have worked though
[09:19] <Vov4ik> Help me please! OIDENTD doesn't works x( What i doeing incorrectly?
[09:19] <Vov4ik> !oidentd
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oidentd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:19] <Vov4ik> !identd
[09:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about identd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <rainrunner87> warbler: It listed 105, which is why I questioned it.  105 was specified to be good for Europeans, and mentioned having keys for "< >"
[09:20] <Hexxeh> back again guys.
[09:20] <Vov4ik> !identd
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about identd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <Vov4ik> !oidentd
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oidentd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <Vov4ik> Help me please! OIDENTD doesn't works x( What i doeing incorrectly?
[09:21] <Andycasss> Why my display still goes blank when ive set it to never go blank from power management?
[09:21] <Hexxeh> Well, I got my main screen to run at it's correct resolution, and glxgears is giving around 900fps on my X1800, does that sound about right?
[09:21] <warbler> rainrunner87: short of counting the keys don't know what else to say...
[09:21] <Vov4ik> Help me please! OIDENTD doesn't works x( What im doeing incorrectly?
[09:22] <rainrunner87> warbler: Eh, this should work.  Thanks.
[09:22] <warbler> Andycasss: I've had that problem in feisty for ages and can't get a suitable answer - I set my movie player to stop the screensaver
[09:23] <warbler> rainrunner87: best of luck
[09:23] <oxeimon> warbler: how do you set your movie player to stop the screensaver?
[09:23] <Andycasss> Yeah, same question, how?
[09:23] <princex> lol ditto
[09:23] <Guillem_> Here I go again: Fonts in Gutsy look blurry when subpixel is enabled. However firefox-3 looks gorgeous. The blurness only affects GTK and Qt apps... Any Ideas about how to solve this issue?
[09:24] <Guillem_> OpenOffice looks OK but because it does not honor the subpixel thing
[09:24] <rainrunner87> warbler: reconfig finished, still black.  Trying the link you suggested again, to see if the extra lines showed up.
[09:24] <Aondo> hmm Guillem_ i had some font issues my self when upgrading from feisty, did you do that aswell?
[09:24] <Guillem_> Aondo, this is the point
[09:25] <warbler> oxeimon: open the home folder and select "view" from near the top - then show hidden folders and there will a dot file for the movie player
[09:25] <Guillem_> Aondo, Have you solved it somewhat?
[09:25] <Aondo> i did a complete reinstall, becaus i had to remove a certain ntfs partition anyway :P
[09:25] <Hexxeh> Hmm, from what I'm reading, dual headed machines are problematic with Ubuntu and Beryl, true?
[09:25] <Guillem_> :(
[09:25] <oxeimon> warbler: what is it called?
[09:25] <Aondo> it didnt have anything with what i did, only that i updated from feisty
[09:26] <Guillem_> Hexxeh, Beryl is so 2006
[09:26] <oxeimon> warbler: and what do I do with it?
[09:26] <Hexxeh> Guillem_: =O
[09:26] <rainrunner87> warbler: still black.  I'm officially confused.  Any other suggestions for my dive into the world of googling?
[09:26] <Hexxeh> What's the replacement, and does it look as spiffy?
[09:26] <Guillem_> Aondo, I've tried to reconfigure all the fontconfig packages... but yet not solved it...
[09:26] <Hexxeh> I'm following this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=321766
[09:26] <warbler> oxeimon: what is the movie player you use?
[09:26] <Guillem_> Aondo, I'll have to start the live-CD to see if the problem is only present at upgrades...
[09:27] <Aondo> Guillem_, ye i dont know what is causing it, i didnt work so hard to find out, knowing i would do a complete fresh install later
[09:27] <oxeimon> warbler: totem, I don't see anything with that name in my home folder
[09:27] <inversekinetix> thanks. music now working,  is there an equalizer for rhythm box?  or a broadcast plugin?
[09:27] <pipak> Can someone please tell me which process started by default on ubuntu access and write to /etc/resolv.conf?
[09:27] <Guillem_> Hexxeh, nvidia twinview + compiz-fusion has worked OK for me
[09:27] <Aondo> Guillem_  only thing i did was creating a new user to see if the same thing happen there, and it did, so i knew that it would in that case go away with a fresh install and figured since i did upgrade to gutsy beta pretty early that there was something there that caused it
[09:28] <Hexxeh> I'm on ATi =/
[09:28] <luddite> .go ubuntu
[09:28] <inversekinetix> Guillem what NV card do you use?
[09:28] <warbler> rainrunner87: there is a generic driver - vesa - dpkg-reconfigure again and select that as the driver
[09:28] <Guillem_> Aondo, I've upgraded from feisty...
[09:28] <Hexxeh> brb
[09:28] <rainrunner87> warbler: that's what was selected before.
[09:28] <Guillem_> inversekinetix, nvidia go 7600 I think
[09:28] <Aondo> Guillem_  then we have kinda the same thing i would guess hehe
[09:28] <Flynsarmy> Anyone else here have a Sigmatel 92XX audio card?
[09:29] <Guillem_> inversekinetix, sorry. GeForce Go 7900 GS
[09:29] <warbler> rainrunner87: then try google - us dell and ubuntu gutsy
[09:29] <inversekinetix> Guillem what fps do you get on that?
[09:29] <rainrunner87> warbler: Kay, thanks for the tips
[09:29] <warbler> oxeimon: went to vlc as movie player - one min
[09:29] <Guillem_> inversekinetix, I enable vsync, and I get the 60 fps almost always
[09:30] <warbler> rainrunner87: best of luck
[09:30] <Guillem_> inversekinetix, I've had to enable some nvidia-kernel options to achieve better stability
[09:30] <inversekinetix> where do you enable v sync?  im getting 2800 fps right now
[09:30] <Ademan> anyone know of a file that contains ONLY the GPL?  /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2 contains a lot more crap than that...
[09:30] <Guillem_> inversekinetix, in compiz-fusion preferences (ccsm)
[09:31] <Guillem_> inversekinetix, where are you getting the FPS?
[09:31] <pipak> Can someone please tell me which process(es) started by default on ubuntu access and write to /etc/resolv.conf? Other than DHCP client.
[09:31] <Guillem_> inversekinetix, because at glxgears I get 22526 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4505.115 FPS
[09:32] <Guillem_> inversekinetix, using compiz-fusion...
[09:32] <neocortex> Hello all! I have a problem with the checkgmail and with adjusting startup programs. Is anyone willing to help?
[09:32] <inversekinetix> Guillem from the thing in compiz desktop setting manager there is a plugin
[09:32] <Guillem_> inversekinetix, OK
[09:32] <inversekinetix> the benchmark thing
[09:33] <warbler> oxeimon: it should be under .gnome - a totem config file
[09:33] <inversekinetix> does vsync have to be enabled?  im having a hell of a time getting oblivion working in wine
[09:33] <Guillem_> inversekinetix, ccsm->general->display settings->
[09:33] <FoSsiL> hey guess i have a weird problem. my windows machine can access my linux machine, but my linux cant access my windows machine. what did i missed?
[09:34] <inversekinetix> whats ccsm?
[09:34] <Guillem_> inversekinetix, vsync does not have to be enabled, but you get smoother animations
[09:34] <Guillem_> inversekinetix, however if you have lots of windows, perhaps the card is unable to reach the vsync and you have a drastic performance loss
[09:34] <inversekinetix> Guillem, sorry Im new
[09:34] <Guillem_> inversekinetix, ccsm is the compiz settings manager
[09:34] <hurricaneharry> pipak: your question is to general, several packages can have access to /etc/resolv.conf
[09:35] <oxeimon> under .gnome2/totem/, there's a state.ini file. What should I change? There are 6 fields: "window_w=626, window_h=473, show_sidebar=false, maximised=false, sidebar_w=376, sidebar_page=playlist". What did you do you make your video player stop the screen blanking?
[09:35] <warbler> FoSsil: how are you trying to access each comp?
[09:35] <pipak> hurricaneharry: Yes, I know it's quite general, but I haven't been able to figure out which process(es) access resolv.conf and I need to know it so I can fix my problem :/
[09:36] <neocortex> checkgmail, which I have installed/deinstalled via Automatix, is still under Applications->Internet, as well as in startup programs and I cannot remove it.
[09:36] <inversekinetix> Guillem, sync to Vblank?
[09:36] <Roller> Allllright can someone help me......Im trying to open package manager I get this erro:
[09:36] <twiztr> I had WinXP on my primary drive, and found an older 20GB in my room, so I tried to install it. Since my mobo won't read my 80GB drive unless it's slave, or master with no slave, I had to install my 20 as the master.
[09:36] <FoSsiL> im access with samba smb://<windowname>
[09:36] <Guillem_> inversekinetix, yes
[09:37] <Roller> E: dpkg was interrupted
[09:37] <twiztr> When I install Ubuntu, will it auto detect WinXP on my slave drive?
[09:37] <Guillem_> inversekinetix, but keep in mind that it does not solve problems: it makes things smoother at cost of the GPU!
[09:37] <twiztr> For the boot up
[09:37] <Flynsarmy> why does ctrl++ not work for the terminal even though it's the shortcut to increase font size?
[09:37] <oxeimon> warbler: under .gnome2/totem/, there's a state.ini file. What should I change? There are 6 fields: "window_w=626, window_h=473, show_sidebar=false, maximised=false, sidebar_w=376, sidebar_page=playlist". What did you do you make your video player stop the screen blanking?
[09:37] <eix> is there a decent doom source port for ubuntu?
[09:37] <inversekinetix> thanks Guillem, animations are way cooler now,  my GPU is not a prob
[09:37] <hurricaneharry> pipak: your question is dependent on which packages you have installed....
[09:37] <eix> I could not compile gzdoom/zdoom
[09:38] <jhaig> Can someone point me towards a howto explaining how to allow a Windows computer to access a printer connected to a machine running Gutsy?  Thanks.
[09:38] <inversekinetix> now if i can get kiba dock working.....
[09:38] <xoRock> hi, i just install gusty, and tried to install compizconfig-settings-manager, but when i click preference > compizconfig-settings-manager nothing happen
my window can read my ubuntu machine, but i get a error trying to use ubuntu to access windows network
[09:38] <twiztr> If I install Ubuntu on my primary, will it autodetect WinXP on my secondary?
[09:38] <pipak> hurricaneharry: Indeed, but is there some way to know what could be writting to /etc/resolv.conf, considering my install is quite standard?
[09:38] <xoRock> warbler, try to set up samba user
[09:39] <warbler> oxeimon: stop screensaver was the option I had - try finding preferences in the top menu of totem - edit-preferences I think
[09:39] <murlidhar> twiztr: no
[09:39] <murlidhar> twiztr: it didn't for me
[09:39] <qman> I'm having trouble with my ATi remote on gusty. I get no input whatsoever with it. On edgy, I merely plug it in and it works, but on gusty I get nothing. Any ideas?
[09:39] <inversekinetix> this channel is really cool
[09:39] <Flynsarmy> Is it possible to find out which program is running on port 80?
[09:39] <Hexxeh> Hello again guys
[09:39] <Hexxeh> Okay
[09:39] <twiztr> murlidhar: Well, then how do I config my GRUB or wathever it uses to detect it at boot?
[09:39] <Hexxeh> I was following that guide to install Beryl I linked earlier
[09:39] <warbler> FoSsil: don't use samba - maybe xoRock can help?
[09:40] <rainrunner87> !find fglrx
[09:40] <ubotu> Found: fglrx-control, xorg-driver-fglrx, xorg-driver-fglrx-dev, fglrx-kernel-source
[09:40] <hurricaneharry> pipak: any package which has to do with name resolving, seting up network interfaces.
[09:40] <Hexxeh> And I got to the bit where it tells you to restart your session. When I did, no beryl loaded and all my graphics and screen stuff is moving like treacle and I have some corrupt icons
[09:40] <hurricaneharry> pipak: so what exactly is your problem ?
[09:40] <Hexxeh> Any ideas?
[09:40] <xoRock> warbler, sorry, i thought it was u who need help :P
[09:40] <xoRock> FoSsiL, setup your samba server
[09:41] <gluonman> Does anyone know anything about installing mobile Linux on the T-Mobile Dash?
how you do that?
[09:42] <FoSsiL> what i need to config in my smb.conf
[09:42] <xoRock> sudo smbpasswd -a
[09:42] <xoRock> sudo smbpasswd -a $user
[09:42] <pipak> hurricaneharry: I'm using cisco VPN client and /etc/resolv.conf keeps getting overwritten by some process, which fucks up my connection all the time. I tried to monitor the file with inotify but it looks like there's no way to know the name of the process triggering the event.
[09:42] <xoRock> $user = username u use to connect to ubuntu machine
[09:42] <FoSsiL> yeah i did that
[09:42] <xoRock> FoSsiL, and did it work?
[09:42] <Hexxeh> Anyone?
[09:43] <jhaig> Flynsarmy: Did you get an answer to your question?  Have a look at http://www.sjdjweis.com/linux/security/
 my issue is that i cant access my window share, but my window can access ubuntu share
[09:43] <xoRock> i mean when u add samba user is there any error msg?
[09:43] <Darky_> hey all
[09:43] <Davy_Jones> i tried to send files to a bluetooth phone but nautilus sendto says "could not load any plugins, verify your installation"  what should i do?
[09:43] <xoRock> FoSsiL, sory my mistake
[09:43] <FoSsiL> its weird
[09:43] <Ademan> anyone know of a file that contains the full text of the GPL that needs to be redistrobuted with source code?
[09:43] <Darky_> I have an ATI Readon X1950 pro, and I was wondering if I can install the drivers for it without having to restart (I use the live cd)
[09:43] <xoRock> FoSsiL, what is the error msg?
The folder contents could not be displayed
[09:44] <gluonman> Anyone know about installing Linux on the T-Mobile Dash phone?
[09:44] <qman> Darky_, install the drivers, and then only restart X, by pressing ctrl alt backspace, or running "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[09:44] <Davy_Jones> does Send To works with anyone here on 7.10?
[09:44] <LinuxInside> MOTO??
[09:45] <Darky_> qman, I already tried that (I used envy to do it for me)
[09:45] <hurricaneharry> pipak: have you look at the differences between the files ? maybe there is something to find out where your update comes from.
[09:45] <Darky_> I also restarted X
[09:45] <Darky_> but compiz isn't working
[09:45] <oxeimon> warbler: I just downloaded vlc. Where can I set the noscreensaver opention?
[09:45] <Darky_> I did the same thing with an Nvidia 7600GT
[09:45] <Hexxeh> Anyone please? My desktop is running like gloopy porridge.
[09:45] <Darky_> and compiz worked fine
[09:45] <qman> Darky_, compiz doesn't work on my ATi card either, depends on your card
[09:46] <xoRock> FoSsiL, lets try this, open your network link, ctrl+L, and type in =>     smb:///<IP Address>
[09:46] <pipak> hurricaneharry: It looks like dhclient is being started for some reason I fail to understand.
[09:46] <qman> Darky_, nvidia cards generally have much better linux support
[09:46] <casey_> would someone help me install a driver?  I can't really find any guides online that are newb friendly enough for me
[09:46] <Darky_> too bad :(
[09:46] <xoRock> if its work then you dont have dns sever
[09:46] <Darky_> is there any list of (in)compatible cards?
[09:47] <hurricaneharry> pipak: possibly the vpn cisco client itself ? a vpn is a tunneled connection, hence it has an own ip or dhcp to it.
[09:47] <warbler> oxeimon: in settings - preferences there is disable screensaver
[09:47] <pvh_sa|wrk> heya... i want to print double-sided from evince - my printer settings show that the printer has a duplex unit. in gimp  i have the option of printing double sided. but in evince - the selector whicih shows 1 sided/etc has no double-sided option. any clues?
[09:47] <buttercups> oxeimon, It is under video in preferences
[09:47] <mahrellon> Hey! Do you guys know of any Irc channel where one can find a few Linux coders?
[09:47] <murlidhar> gluonman: installing linux on T-mobile dash phone is not official so u cannot get support .  i guess u have to google it in order to know about them. there are a lot of tutorials how to do that i guess
[09:48] <LinuxInside> #ubuntu-uk
say error msg
[09:48] <casey_> would someone help me install a driver?  I can't really find any guides online that are newb friendly enough for me
[09:48] <pipak> hurricaneharry: Indeed, cisco client writes to it, which works as expected, but something overwrites it after 2-3 minutes for no obvious reason
[09:48] <gluonman> murlidhar: Thanks.
[09:48] <marik> hey i'm in a livecd trying to get my bios raid working.  when i run `dmraid -s`, my raid set shows up, but when i run `dmraid -ay` nothing gets created in /dev/mapper/ can anyone help?
[09:48] <LinuxInside> what driver??
[09:48] <xoRock> FoSsiL, what is it say?
[09:49] <casey_> linuxinside: alsa-driver 1.15.  the newest driver supports my hardware, but the one Ubuntu uses doesnt.
[09:49] <warbler> casey_: which driver and why not from synaptic?
The folder contents could not be displayed
[09:49] <moyer> anyone know what setting i need to adjust in ccsm to add more desktops to the cube.. it defaulted on 2 and its flat when i spin
[09:49] <LinuxInside> but you know the newest driver is not the best~~
[09:49] <xoRock> FoSsiL, open terminal, and ping your destination address
[09:50] <zombie_monkey> I made a fat32 partition ext3 with mkfs, but it still shows as fat32 under fdisk
[09:50] <casey_> linuxinside: possibly...  but I'd like to have sound.
[09:50] <FoSsiL> you think its windows side i should be looking at?
[09:50] <zombie_monkey> why's that?
[09:50] <xoRock> fosil, maybe some firewall bloking your destination comp
[09:50] <moyer> hello
[09:50] <xoRock> FoSsiL, happened to me last time
[09:50] <hurricaneharry> pipak: ok, i'd look into the dhcp refreshing time.
[09:50] <techfiz> Hi All, Can I run Gutsy with graphics on Mercury board P4VM800M7
its ping able
[09:50] <poco> zombie_monkey: you need to change the partition table
[09:50] <eix> FoSsiL: the correct address is: smb://ip.addr.ess.here
[09:50] <Roller> Can someone help me with the E: dpkg was interrupted error message ???
[09:51] <LinuxInside> casey  what type of your diver?
firewall on windows side?
[09:51] <Atomic_UE> moyer, General Options > Desktop Size
[09:51] <xoRock> FoSsiL, <eix> FoSsiL: the correct address is: smb://ip.addr.ess.here
[09:51] <Atomic_UE> moyer, OR right click on the pager in the bottom right of the screen and go to preferences
[09:51] <xoRock> FoSsiL, yes, windows side
[09:51] <casey_> linuxinside:  what?
 it works
[09:52] <eix> xoRock: I made the correction because with /// it doesnt work, only // slashes
[09:52] <FoSsiL> way did it work on my network place?
[09:52] <LinuxInside> what file type of your soud driver
[09:52] <xoRock> eix, yes, :P
[09:52] <xoRock> FoSsiL, u dont have dns server
[09:52] <baba> hi ppl, ksoftirqd using high cpu on core2duo on a fresh install of 7.10
[09:52] <casey_> they're all tars
[09:53] <baba> hi ppl, ksoftirqd using high cpu on core2duo on a fresh install of 7.10, any suggestions
[09:53] <LinuxInside> do u know how to install *.tar
[09:53] <Darky_> it seems that this guy managed to run compiz on his x1950: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3577695
 how you setup dns? on the router?
[09:53] <LinuxInside> dhcp
or on windows machine?
[09:53] <casey_> I know how to unpack it.
[09:53] <Darky_> maybe I have to restart my computer instead of just restarting X
[09:54] <casey_> but thats about where my experiance stops
[09:54]  * pvh_sa|wrk finds problem. gnome-cups thingy doesn't set settings right (and i dealt with that bug on freebsd a while back! grrr)
[09:54] <buttercups> Roller, following your error does it tell you to run  dpkg --configure -a ?
[09:54] <moyer> thank you
[09:54] <Delegreg> Hi, problem with Planeshift screen flickering on gutsy, ne1 can help ?
[09:54] <xoRock> FoSsiL, i dont use dns server, i go straight to the ip address, i create link for each comp i used to connect
[09:55] <casey_> I had it installed before I reinstalled ubuntu, but the sound had a staticy sound to it.  I think I messed it up.
[09:55] <baba> hi ppl, ksoftirqd using high cpu on core2duo on a fresh install of 7.10, any suggestions. already tried tweaking hdparm -B 255
[09:55] <WildPikachu> hi guys, the ubuntu repository DVD's ... looks like 5 of them, are they all multiverse or are some main, universe, multiverse ... etc?
[09:56] <Atomic_UE> moyer, no worries :)
how did window find my ubuntu share. i search on name and not ip
[09:57] <murlidhar> baba: what does ksoftirqd do?
[09:57] <moyer> is all software available with ub free?
[09:57] <inversekinetix> thanks for the help people, good night
[09:57] <warbler> casey_: in terminal type - tar xvvf /path/to/file - then look for the readme file where you unpack it
[09:58] <baba> it is a deamon that handles irq's
[09:58] <xoRock> FoSsiL, do u use static ip for ubuntu machine? if not, u can use roaming mode, so ubuntu machine can find comp on network whenever its starting
[09:59] <Arandel[at-work]> Guys how do I launch system settings from console?
[09:59] <noah_> i can't think of a word and it
my machine is set to roaming.
[10:00] <casey_> would the instructions on this site for installing the alsa drivers work? want to make sure before I try: http://aldeby.wordpress.com/2007/09/11/howto-ubuntu-on-hp-dv65xx-series-laptop/
[10:00] <geoaxis> hello people
[10:00] <noah_> it's bugging the hell out of me... it's like fire___ or ___whip or something like that and it means a like a sexy woman
[10:00] <geoaxis> how can i start compiz in kde
[10:00] <egolost> is there any gnome replacement for minicom?
[10:00] <geoaxis> i mean desktop effecs
[10:00] <tonyyarusso> !offtopic | noah_
[10:00] <ubotu> noah_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:00] <geoaxis> effects*
[10:01] <Arandel[at-work]> Doesn't anybody know the command for system settings?
[10:01] <Arandel[at-work]> *kde system settings
[10:01] <noah_> tonyyarusso: what i meant to say was, in gutsy, how can i get to a thesaurus that will answer that?
[10:01] <noah_> i was thinking it might be pidgin
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> noah_: try dict-moby-thesaurus maybe
[10:02] <murlidhar> baba: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=292406
[10:02] <marik> hey i'm in a livecd trying to get my bios raid working.  when i run `dmraid -s`, my raid set shows up, but when i run `dmraid -ay` nothing gets created in /dev/mapper/ can anyone help?
[10:02] <murlidhar> baba: perhaps
[10:02] <Kred> Hi
[10:03] <baba> murlidhar, let me check. thanks
[10:03] <Kred> Is there a way to mount disk when using Terminal Server Client? I'd need to access my harddrive from a Windows server.
[10:03] <marik> isn't terminal server client like vnc?
[10:03] <Atomic_UE> Arandel[at-work], kcontrol
[10:04] <baba> murlidhar, already done tweaking to acip daeom
[10:04] <baba> no use
[10:04] <Sebastian> Is it a known issue that Gutsy regularly freezes in a VMware Workstation 6?
[10:04] <Atomic_UE> marik, same idea/purpose yes
[10:05] <FoSsiL> hey guys do virtualbox support directx?
[10:05] <wikingz999> Hi! I have problem with USB drives. After upgrading dist to gutsy monting give error: "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1". I have no idea how to solve it. On live cd of gutsy USB works fine. Sorry about my english.
[10:05] <baba> hi ppl, ksoftirqd using high cpu on core2duo on a fresh install of 7.10, any suggestions. already tried tweaking hdparm -B 255
[10:06] <murlidhar> can anybody tell when a swap is used cuz right now it shows that 0bytes of swap used
[10:07] <hurricaneharry> FoSsiL: don't know, but have a win vbox at hand, how to find out ?
[10:07] <Atomic_UE> murlidhar, swap space is usually only used when RAM is full. Things that aren't needed now in RAM will go to swap to free up some RAM so it can be used
[10:07] <Baller2> Can someone help me??? WHen I try and install something with ubuntu......it keeps trying to install this flash plugin "connecting to fpdownload.macromedia.com" how do I stop this download so I can download and install other things ?? PLZ HELP
[10:09] <murlidhar> Atomic_UE: does my pc become slower when swap is used
[10:09] <Atomic_UE> Baller2, uncheck Flash Plugin from your list of things to install
[10:09] <Kred> marik, Atomic_UE: do you happen to know if mounting drives is possible with Terminal Server Client?
 i just found out virtualbox dont support directx, but vmware workstation do support it.
[10:09] <Baller2> I just installed ubuntu like 15 minutes ago.....wheres the list of "things to install" that I check off ?
[10:09] <Baller2> Like I even restarted my computer and whenever I try to download something I check "details" it keeps getting hungup on this flash plugin
[10:09] <marik> Kred: wouldn't it depend upon the operating system you're TSC'ing into?
[10:10] <hurricaneharry> FoSsil, ok, anyway's don't expect to play the latest games on it.
[10:10] <Flynsarmy> i installed LAMP. how do i turn off apache? i typed apache2 -kstop but it says httpd is not running. apache is still running on 80
[10:10] <Atomic_UE> murlidhar, if a lot of data goes from RAM to swap all at once, then you your computer may temporarily slow down while this is happening, because swap space is on your hard drive and hard drives are one of the slowest parts of a computer
[10:11] <Atomic_UE> murlidhar, you won't really notice much unless you open up a very memory intensive program, or if you don't have much RAM (memory)
[10:11] <murlidhar> Atomic_UE: thanks
[10:11] <Kred> marik: umm.. depend how? I though that all Windows with RDP supports disk mounting. But in my case I have had such a connection from KDE using krdm, that had an option to make disk mounts.
[10:11] <Atomic_UE> murlidhar, no worries :)
[10:11] <Kred> I'm now trying to find out if it's possible to do the same with Ubuntus TSC
[10:12] <Baller2> Anyone know how to get ubuntu to stop installing this flash plugin? ...Even after restarting whenever I try to download anything it tries to install but times out where its installing from ::: ?????
[10:12] <Atomic_UE> Kred, terminal server client (tsc) logs into a computer. It would depend on the operating system you're using on the computer you log into
[10:12] <``tanka>  gdrfd
[10:12] <marik> Kred: oh you mean like remote mounting of a drive local to the box you're TSC'ing from?
[10:13] <zetheroo> please can someone help me getting DualHead working?
[10:13] <``tanka> #skopje
[10:14] <gluonman> Is there an Ubuntu equivalent to the Windows cltr-alt-dlt?
[10:14] <Kred> Atomic_UE, marik: I'm making an RDP connection to a Windows 2003 Server. I want to share (mount, what ever the proper name is) disk from Ubuntu to the Windows server. So yes, remote mounting of a local drive to the server :)
[10:14] <Andycasss> I cant figure out how to disable the display sleep, if i set it to never - it still goes blank
[10:14] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, Go to System > Applications > System Monitor
[10:15] <zetheroo> Here is my xorg.conf file............: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42207/
[10:15] <marik> Kred: in that case - no idea, but good luck to you
[10:15] <Andycasss> Maybe there is some sort of a  quick fix for it?
[10:15] <zetheroo> anyone?
[10:15] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, thank you.
[10:15] <warbler> gluonman: there is a panel app that will force a misbehaving program to quit
[10:15] <Masterslave> Does anyone have te same problem as me? Openoffice.org doesn't show the icons, I had this is feisty and now also in gusty
[10:15] <gluonman> warbler, where is that panel app? What is it?
[10:15] <Kred> marik: ok, thanks :( I was afraid of this.
[10:15] <Baller2> Can someone help me??? WHen I try and install something with ubuntu......it keeps trying to install this flash plugin "connecting to fpdownload.macromedia.com" how do I stop this download so I can download and install other things ?? PLZ HELP
[10:15] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, or if you press alt+F4 and type 'xkill' that will change your cursor, and you can just click on the app that you want to kill
[10:16] <zetheroo> anyone?
[10:16] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, that's sweet.
[10:16] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, or Ctrl+Alt+backspace just kills the X server (all your graphical stuff) and you'll end up back at the login screen
[10:17] <warbler> gluonman: the panel is the strips top and bottom - right click a pnel and you will get options to add or remove icons to programs - force quit is the one I mentioned
[10:17] <Baller2> Can anyone help me trying to stop this flash playing from downloadinng ???????????
[10:17] <gluonman> warbler, thanks.
[10:17] <warbler> *panel
[10:17] <warbler> k
[10:17] <Baller2> Can someone help me??? WHen I try and install something with ubuntu......it keeps trying to install this flash plugin "connecting to fpdownload.macromedia.com" how do I stop this download so I can download and install other things ?? PLZ HELP
[10:18] <Flynsarmy> Baller2: STFU and quit spamming
[10:18] <Baller2> Nobodys answering :p
[10:18] <Atomic_UE> Kred, I've not seen that done before in that way, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was possible. As such I wouldn't be able to help you that sorry
[10:18] <GuardianOfGerman> I?ve got a prob with my harddisk under knoppix 5.1 can anybody help me?
[10:18] <gluonman> If I have Feisty Fawn, will my OS automatically become upgraded to the new 7.10 through the automatic updates?
[10:19] <sitaram> Baller2: how precisely are you trying to install whatever it is you are installing?  GUI or command line?
[10:19] <Kred> Atomic_UE: thank you, too very much. I know this isn't possible on KDE side either without external little app. For some reason it's left out totally by developers from either side.
[10:19] <zetheroo> Dual Head anyone?
[10:19] <sitaram> gluonman: short answer: no
[10:19] <Baller2> sitaram : Gui I just install....When I click on "details" I can see it trying to connect to a website to try and download the plugin
[10:19] <hurricaneharry> GuardianOfGerman: this is ubuntu support not, knoppix support...
[10:19] <Baller2> It keeps trying to download this over and over
[10:20] <warbler> gluonman: no - you need to type in a terminal - gksu update-manager -d
[10:20] <Atomic_UE> GuardianOfGerman, I'd generally direct you to the #knoppix channel, but there isn't too many people in there, but they still might be able to help with your problem
[10:20] <Baller2> Even if I try and install another app after that and kill the process.....it goes back to trying to install that plugin
[10:20] <gluonman> warbler, but you basically don't need a new install CD, right? That's mainly what I was getting at.
[10:21] <sitaram> Baller2: I am not at my ubuntu machine right now (this is my work machine, mandriva) but before you hit "apply changes" or whatever there should be a list of what it will download, and you can turn off individual items
[10:21] <zetheroo> there has GOT to be someone here who can help me...
[10:21] <warbler> gluonman: no - update manager will download the new os in the background then ask for a reboot
[10:21] <hurricaneharry> gluonman: no.
[10:21] <Baller2> I'll check it out thanks
[10:22] <gluonman> warbler: thanks. This information is helpful for a linux newb like me.
[10:22] <warbler> k
[10:23] <warbler> gluonman: if you needed to install graphic drivers or such be prepared to reinstall them after an upgrade
[10:24] <gluonman> warbler: thanks for the warning.
[10:24] <warbler> k
[10:24] <gluonman> warbler: my files and such will be safe, right?
[10:24] <hurricaneharry> gluonman: always good to have a backup....
[10:25] <gluonman> hurricaneharry: I have an external hdd.
[10:26] <gluonman> hurricaneharry: I just wanted to know if I have to save everything to the ext. hdd or if I can afford to be lazy.
[10:26] <warbler> gluonman: good advice there - I've had no probs but always felt safer with the backups - anyway, backups should be routine
[10:26] <hurricaneharry> gluonman: i myself had some trouble using the virtual terminals 1-6 after upgrading, bug 129910
[10:26] <gluonman> warbler and hurricaneharry, thank you for your suggestions. I'll start backing everything up.
[10:27] <zetheroo> I need HELP with Dual Head in Gutsy
[10:27] <Ademan> can a single crontab entry contain multiple commands? (like  cd wherever; do-something-else)
[10:27] <gluonman> warbler, is there a resource that I can use that provides a list of basic terminal commands that I can memorise for various things?
[10:27] <Atomic_UE> Ademan, yes
[10:28] <Andycasss> Hmm in Ubuntu Gutsy my display goes blank in about 20 min when watching videos in mythtv. Ive set the display sleep to "never" in power management
[10:28] <Atomic_UE> Ademan, but it might be more friendly if you just put all those commands into a script and just run that script
[10:28] <warbler> gluonman: food for thought - with a seperate partition for /home upgrades are that much safer - and reinstalls save most of your settings
[10:28] <hurricaneharry> gluonman: try the debian-cheat-sheet.
[10:28] <Ademan> cool thanks Atomic_UE, i'm still not great with bash, would cd wherever && do-whatever or cd wherever; do-whatever     be more "appropriate" ? (are they even equivalent?)
[10:28] <gluonman> hurricaneharry, thanks.
[10:29] <gluonman> warbler, how can I make that partition?
[10:29] <warbler> gluonman: in terminal type - ls /bin - then pick a command and type - man "command"
[10:29] <Atomic_UE> Ademan, well whatever you put into crontab for your commands, you can just stick straight into a file, just have #!/bin/sh as the very first line of the file
[10:29] <Flynsarmy> Is there a keyboard shortcut to run the console?
[10:30] <hurricaneharry> Ademan: use a script if you need multiple commands, better to maintain.
[10:30] <gluonman> warbler, and that leads to partition options?
[10:30] <casey_> Ok.. I followed the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto down until it "Manually Specify Module Parameters".  The command given doesnt work, and when I click on my volume it says: No Volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.  Anyone give me any help?
[10:30] <Ademan> Atomic_UE: well i just want to periodically back up my git repository so it cd's into the project directory then pulls the files from the remote computer,  so it'd be something like cd Projects/foo; git-pull ssh://me@remote-host/foo/
[10:30] <Ademan> Atomic_UE: just 2 lines really
[10:30] <warbler> gluonman: either during install or download gparted and resize the present partition
[10:30] <Ademan> hurricaneharry: even for a two liner?
[10:30] <Ademan> i guess if i had to add more later...
[10:30] <gluonman> warbler, what size do you recommend?
[10:31] <gluonman> warbler, forgive me if my questions seem silly. I'm very new to this stuff.
[10:31] <Atomic_UE> Ademan, you can stick those 2 commands into 1 file as is either all on same line like you would with crontab or one command per line, but if it's only 2 commands like that then I suppose you could just stick it into crontab like that
[10:31] <hurricaneharry> Ademan: i think i'd use && in your situation, as otherwise the repos will be in ??
[10:32] <Atomic_UE> Ademan, I do it 'cos I'm to lazy to create a file sometimes :P
[10:32] <Ademan> hurricaneharry: good call, thanks
[10:32] <Ademan> and thanks Atomic_UE
[10:32] <Baller2> Alright still having problems....I rebooted my machine I get an error message whenever I try to open any app.....And even after rebooting my machine I go to the console and type in sudo dpkg --configure -a ....it keeps trying to install this flash plugin
[10:33] <warbler> gluonman: wasn't that long ago that I was new - 5gig for ubuntu, 3 gig for /opt - downloaded progs live there sometimes - the rest for /home is what I use - some have a seperate /boot
[10:33] <hazman> Hey, i've got a problem, the icons on my desktop have shrunk.. but the text is the same size, any idea's..? help plz?
[10:33] <Hexxeh> Hey guys.
[10:33] <monkey__> anyone use grub-reboot?
[10:33] <casey_> Ok.. I followed the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto down until it "Manually Specify Module Parameters".  The command given doesnt work, and when I click on my volume it says: No Volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.  Anyone give me any help?
[10:34] <Hexxeh> I've completely reinstalled Ubuntu now and I'm not touching the restricted drivers, however I've done sudo apt-get install emerald emerald-themes and let it run through, then selected a theme using the theme manager, but nothing happens. Any ideas? This is on a fresh Ubuntu install.
[10:34] <Atomic_UE> hazman, go to your desktop. click once on the desktop and press F5. see if that does anything
[10:35] <gluonman> warbler, okay. I'm guessing that gparted is an application that I can download? From synaptic? And I'm still kind of shady on partitioning, but what I understand is that I will boot into a particular partition (not for ubuntu) in which I can command the os upgrades that will affect my entire system?
[10:36] <xoRock> hi, i just install gusty, and tried to install compizconfig-settings-manager, but when i click preference > compizconfig-settings-manager nothing happen, any help?
[10:36] <Baller2> gluonman : gparted came with my version of ubuntu
[10:36] <nalpha> any idea? what's the mean of dmask and fmask? to mount windows shaer? thanx
[10:36] <casey_> Ok.. I followed the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto down until it "Manually Specify Module Parameters".  The command given doesnt work, and when I click on my volume it says: No Volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.  Anyone give me any help?
[10:36] <gluonman> Baller2, I haven't noticed it. I'll look for it though.
[10:36] <nalpha> xoRock maybe you are run in small memory isn't?
[10:36] <Sontax`lap> Hey
[10:37] <Sontax`lap> I need some help
[10:37] <Sontax`lap> I want to complete remove ubuntu and grub to
[10:37] <xoRock> nalpha, hm... 1 gig? ;P
[10:37] <Hexxeh> Anyone?
[10:37] <Sontax`lap> becuase i need to send my laptop back to acer
[10:37] <Sontax`lap> How do i complete remove grub ?
[10:37] <gluonman> warbler, I just want to be clear. When you mention /opt, /home, and /boot, are these predetermined options that I can simply assign a size to?
[10:37] <nalpha> xoRock ow... sry... cause i have just had the same problem because small memory :D
[10:38] <hurricaneharry> Sontax`lap: use the restore cd ? and or fdisk / mbr
[10:38] <Sontax`lap> i have the restort cd
[10:38] <Sontax`lap> but i cant remove grub
[10:38] <gluonman> warbler, or do I just declare a new partition and call it whatever I want?
[10:38] <warbler> gluonman: no - you have to make partitions for them and name them /opt , /home etc
[10:38] <xoRock> nalpha, the effect and stuff is working, only i can't access the setting
[10:38] <Greyfox> Hey folks, anyone here install Steam via Wine?
[10:38] <gluonman> warbler, I have to use those specific names?
[10:39] <gluonman> warbler, or is /opt just some language for insert name of this category here?
[10:39] <warbler> gluonman: /home is a system file , same as /opt
[10:39] <kritzstapf> Sontax`lap, the windows cd has a repair console from which you can use FIXBOOT and FIXMBR to write a new boot record
[10:39] <hurricaneharry> Sontax`lap: fdisk /mbr then under dos
[10:39] <gordonjcp> is the Ubuntu-packaged ffmpeg capable of producing .flv with mp3 audio?
[10:39] <gluonman> warbler, okay.
[10:39] <gluonman> warbler, I'll give it a try.
[10:39] <warbler> gluonman: they have to have those names
[10:39] <steve1> Is there any program that allows you to do a cube in ubuntu 7.06?
[10:39] <Sontax`lap> how do i start that dos ?
[10:39] <gluonman> warbler, okay. Good to know.
[10:40] <warbler> k
[10:40] <Sontax`lap> i installed the vista orginal from acer
[10:40] <Sontax`lap> but i cant remove ubuntu and gurb
[10:40] <gluonman> warbler, so, backup files, partition system as you've described, then install os upgrade. Anything else?
[10:40] <mik1> hey, i got a small problem regarding gnome. my ~/.gconf directory is included as "readonly" when gnome starts - thus nothing is able to store settings in the "database". so i dont have a panel or such. in my /etc/gconf/2/path file, my ~/.gconf directory is listed as "readwrite" but in syslog it tells me it is including it as "readonly". my user has proper access rights so it must be something else. has someone experienced the same problem?
[10:40] <warbler> gluonman: seems a good approach
[10:41] <warbler> :)
[10:41] <gluonman> warbler, okay. Then I will get started. Thank you very much for your help.
[10:41] <Atomic_UE> steve1, you mean a rotating cube that gives you 4 desktops?
[10:42] <hurricaneharry> Sontax`lap you need to find a normal vista cd (no restore) wich can start the recovery console or find yourself a ms-dos bootdisk (maybe freedos is an option)
[10:42] <Atomic_UE> steve1, a 3d cube*
[10:43] <nalpha> any idea? what's the mean of dmask and fmask? to mount windows shaer? thanx
[10:44] <warbler> Sontax`lap: if you format the ubuntu partition you will remove ubuntu
[10:44] <Greyfox> So I've got Wine installed and I've downloaded the SteamInstall.msi file, and when I run "wine start SteamInstall.msi" I'm presented with the following:
[10:44] <Greyfox> wine start SteamInstall.msi
[10:44] <Greyfox> Application could not be started, or no application associated with the specified file.
[10:44] <Greyfox> ShellExecuteEx failed: File not found
[10:44] <Greyfox> The file is sitting on my desktop
[10:45] <Greyfox> What might be the problem?
[10:45] <Atomic_UE> Greyfox, try asking in #winehq
[10:46] <Greyfox> Just found the room, thanks Atomic_UE. :)
[10:46] <Atomic_UE> Greyfox, no worries :)
[10:47] <ws> can someone help me with vmware server on kubuntu... which possibilities do i have to access the linux filesystem from a vmware windows xp image?
[10:47] <troopa> Greyfox: The problem is that "start" is not part of the command, and it is not a recongized command.
[10:48] <troopa> Therefore, please issue the command "wine applicationhere" without quotes, and replacing applicationhere with whatever you are wanting to run.
[10:48] <Andycasss> Hmm in Ubuntu Gutsy my display goes blank in about 20 min when watching videos in mythtv. Ive set the display sleep to "never" in power management
[10:49] <Greyfox> troopa: So when I'm given the error, "wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\SteamInstall.msi": Module not found" I need to move the file into that directory?
[10:49] <Greyfox> I'm new to all this, my apologies.
[10:49] <smmagic> Can someone give me some help?
[10:50] <troopa> Greyfox: Open a terminal, and navigate to the directory where the installer is. Then issue the command; wine SteamInstall.msi or whatever the application is.
[10:50] <Greyfox> Aye that's what I tried.
[10:51] <smmagic> This will sound REALLY odd, but I seem to have installed ubuntu 2 times on one partition
[10:51] <tat> smmagic: what makes you think so?
[10:51] <smmagic> Well I had graphic card issues so I reinstalled
[10:52] <smmagic> And now on the dual boot screen I have 2 ubuntu's in sda2
[10:52] <Greyfox> troopa: What I typed and the results follow:
[10:52] <casey_> on a fresh install why doesnt this command work for me?: cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec
[10:52] <tat> smmagic: its probably just a duplicate entry in your boot loader
[10:52] <Greyfox> troopa: greyfox@greyfox-desktop:~$ wine start SteamInstall.msi
[10:52] <Greyfox> fixme:exec:SHELL_execute flags ignored: 0x00000500
[10:52] <Greyfox> Application could not be started, or no application associated with the specified file.
[10:52] <Greyfox> ShellExecuteEx failed: File not found
[10:52] <smmagic> Can I remove that somehow?
[10:52] <Greyfox> I've also tried it without the "start" troopa.
[10:53] <smmagic> Aah..qtparted says I made a sda3
[10:53] <smmagic> Deleted that
[10:53] <Greyfox> And it says, "wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\SteamInstall.exe": Module not found"
[10:53] <casey_> greyfox: !Pastebin
[10:53] <Atomic_UE> casey_, what do you get?
[10:53] <casey_> atomic_ue: no such command or whatever
[10:54] <troopa> Greyfox: The "start" is what is causing the "no application associated" error. However, I am not sure why wine is attempting to load the installer from the system32 directory.
[10:54] <tat> you probably got two different kernel versions in your /boot
[10:54] <Greyfox> It's also only looking for .exe files troopa, which is odd.
[10:54] <tat> or maybe you installed the other on sda3?
[10:54] <smmagic> I think so
[10:54] <Atomic_UE> casey_, what's the error you get exactly, because "no such command" sound totally and absolutely wrong
[10:54] <smmagic> I deleted it now
[10:54] <tat> ok
[10:54] <smmagic> So can I remove that entry
[10:55] <smmagic> Note to self: Never use envy
[10:55] <troopa> Greyfox: Well, you might want to check the wine channel. My knowledge with wine is fairly limited. I have not experienced such an error before.
[10:55] <tat> to remove it you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:55] <casey_> atomic_ue: No such file or directory
[10:55] <smmagic> sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[10:55] <Greyfox> Sure. Asked already in there but no response so far. Thanks for your insight though, it's definitely appreciated.
[10:55] <tat> yep
[10:55] <gluonman> When I enter my ext. hdd, I can't seem to be able to delete anything. I right click on something and the "Move to deleted items folder" option is not available.
[10:56] <gluonman> How can I delete the items?
[10:56] <smmagic> Now what part to remove
[10:56] <tat> smmagic: be sure you dont remove wrong entry :)
[10:56] <Atomic_UE> casey_, do you have sound?
[10:56] <smmagic> I don't know which one!
[10:56] <tat> the section with the entry you dont want in your boot menu
[10:56] <casey_> atomic_ue: negative.  I'm trying to install the newest ALSA drivers.
[10:57] <tat> then its probably best to let it be
[10:57] <smmagic> They are the same entry over and over
[10:57] <smmagic> But I do want to get rid of the windows one
[10:58] <tat> hm
[10:58] <Atomic_UE> casey_, not exactly sure, but i think the problem might be because alsa doesn't detect your sound card, so it's not listed in /proc/asound
[10:58] <tat> smmagic: is one of the entries with sda3?
[10:58] <warbler> gluonman: you need to enable read/write permissions
[10:58] <gluonman> warbler, how do I do that?
[10:59] <pagal_> im experiencing a much slower laptop after upgrading to 7.10. why is that?
[10:59] <smmagic> http://pastebin.ca/750204
[10:59] <smmagic> Maybe that can tell you
[10:59] <warbler> gluonman: what's on the ext hd - windows?
[10:59] <casey_> atomic_ue: I've followed the instructions on the ubuntu site completely, but the alsa drivers dont seem to be installing correctly.  let me reboott one more time.
[10:59] <gluonman> warbler, I'm not using it as a partition, just storage. I first purchased it and installed it when I was using Windows.
[11:00] <Sonderblade> cups web interface doesn't find a printer on the network, how do i add it manually?
[11:00] <gluonman> warbler, I also, somehow, managed to close my trash bin and I'm not sure how to reload it.
[11:01] <warbler> gluonman: if it is ntfs you need to download ntfs-3g I think - I don't use winblows - anyone?
[11:01] <Atomic_UE> Sonderblade, System > Administration > Printing > New Printer  ??
[11:01] <mcp_> How can i download all packages requiered to build another package?  I want to get all *-dev.deb that are requiered. I dont want the source of neither the dependencies, nor the packge I'm going to build.
[11:02] <warbler> gluonman: right click a panel - strips top and bottom - and you can readd a trash icon
[11:02] <mctavish> yo. I need to install grub to a specific location (the root partition rather than the mbr). Will the normal gusty install iso give me this option, or do I need the server iso?
[11:02] <gluonman> warbler, winblows! lol funny.
[11:02] <warbler> k
[11:02] <Sonderblade> Atomic_UE: cool thanks
[11:02] <nanonyme> gluonman, although older than the Internet :)
[11:02] <Atomic_UE> Sonderblade, no worries
[11:03] <gluonman> warbler, wow. I can't believe I didn't know about "add panel" before.
[11:03] <warbler> gluonman: there's allot to ubuntu!
[11:03] <gluonman> warbler, so I'm finding.
[11:04] <mayfairy> Anyone playeed Eternal Lands of Plane shift? Are they any good for a (mmo)rpg sucker like myself?
[11:05] <gluonman> warbler, I guess I'll figure out the ext hdd thing. But I installed gparted and now that I've opened it, I'm not exactly familiar with how it works. It's showing three paritions (/dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, and /dev/sda5). I clicked the Partition tab where there is a New option, but everything is greyed out like it is unavailable. What do I do from there?
[11:05] <mcp_> Found out myself, its:  apt-get build-dep whatevertobuild
[11:06] <warbler> gluonman: what is on your hd? sda1 might be windows - sda2 might be ubuntu and 3 will be swap?
[11:06] <casey_> atomic_ue: so I've installed alsa according to the ubuntu howto page.  I've modprobe'd everything the alsa install page tells me.  I've run alsaconf and it found my card and set it up.  but when I run alsamixer or amixer i get a: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device.  any idea?
[11:06] <Optimus55> does anyone know a page where i can see all the updates for gutsy?
[11:07] <warbler> gluonman: should be able to get details clicking on the partitions
[11:08] <gluonman> warbler, sda1 is the largest one (35.69GiB), and I thought that I had erased Windows completely. sda2 is 1.57GiB and sda5, which is shown as a subcategory of sda2 is the same size.
[11:08] <mctavish> Ubuntu brothers I beseech thee. Look into your hearts and tell me what you see! I need to install grub to a specific location (the root partition rather than the mbr). Will the normal gusty install iso give me this option, or do I need the server iso?
[11:08] <smmagic> Can someone help me get video streams working?
[11:08] <gluonman> warbler, the filesystem names of the partitions are sda1=ext3, sda2=extended, sda5=linux-swap.
[11:09] <Atomic_UE> casey_, not sure about that one, sorry. try asking in #alsa
[11:09] <world> Can anyone tell me what to do when fire fox has no idea what to open a .php file with. I do have php5 installed
[11:09] <warbler> gluonman: just guessing from here hehe - ok - try sliding the large partition to the left - might have to click it first
[11:10] <gluonman> warbler, the bar at the top?
[11:10] <gluonman> warbler, I tried doing something like that to no avail.
[11:10] <warbler> gluonman: yep
[11:11] <warbler> gluonman: right click the partition and see the options
[11:11] <Atomic_UE> mctavish, the normal gutsy gui install, no
[11:12] <gluonman> warbler, there is an option that says resize, but it's greyed out. I'm not sure why a lot of the functions are unavailable to me.
[11:12] <warbler> gluonman: put the cursor at the right edge of the partition segment
[11:12] <gluonman> warbler, I understand the procedure of dragging. It just won't do that.
[11:12] <mctavish> Atomic_UE: ah, thanks dude. bye.
[11:13] <warbler> gluonman: some people have trouble resizing because of their hardware and linux?
[11:13] <warbler> gluonman: maybe you don't have the resize option
[11:13] <gluonman> warbler, I'm not sure. It's just that the options are greyed out. I can't use them for reasons I don't understand.
[11:13] <gluonman> warbler, it is listed in the tab.
[11:14] <gluonman> warbler I just can't click on it.
[11:14] <warbler> gluonman: gparted isn't perfect
[11:14] <gluonman> warbler, is there another program? Can I update it?
[11:14] <Xemanth> qtparted
[11:14] <Xemanth> :)
[11:14] <gluonman> warbler, what about Gpar or Gpar2? Or are those just recovery programs? I happened to notice them when I was finding gparted in synaptic.
[11:14] <warbler> gluonman: never done it after the fact - only during reinstall
[11:15] <gluonman> Hm.
[11:15] <buttercups> gluonman, gparted does have a live cd, burn and boot from that
[11:15] <Sergemine> Guys, need someone to share a quick & dirty way of setting up graphics in Ubunu. I know my graphics/screen is not supported by Ubuntu out of the box. I tryed loading in safe graphics mode, but it didn't work. I can attach another screen which is probably going to work fine with VESA. It will let me install the restricteddrivers, but in case it doesn't start xserver properly next time I boot with my main sceen... What's s good way to reconfigure my xserve
[11:15] <gluonman> warbler, buttercups, well I guess I can just finish backing up my files and then use my installation CD to repartition everything.
[11:16] <nana2> ola
[11:16] <warbler> gluonman: ext hd are a blessing
[11:17] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, from my experiences with gparted, if certain filesystem types are missing it's usually because the libraries for that filesystem aren't installed. Also yo ucan't do the same things to every type of filesystem.
[11:17] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, not sure about the progress on the filesystem libraries, but for example at one point you couldn't resize ntfs partitions so that option wasn't available for those filesystems, etc
[11:18] <gluonman> warbler, but what's confusing me is that when the installation process automatically partitioned my system so that ubuntu uses the entire space, it gave the partitions those specific names. So, if I repartition my system with the names you gave me (ubuntu, /opt, /home), the OS will still function just as well?
[11:18] <gluonman> Atomic_UC, so perhaps I can install some libraries from synaptic?
[11:18] <world> I just installed drupal 5.1 on ubuntu 7.10, Apache2, PHP5 server. Can anyone remind me what to do when Firefox asks what to open the install page with? PLease and thank you.
[11:19] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, perhaps
[11:19] <gluonman> Atomic_UE do you know what libraries I need?
[11:20] <kharloss>  hi there. i want to install ubuntu server 7.10 but my hard drives isn`t recognized. i use this SCSI controler : http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/support/scsi/u320/ASC-39320D/  any solution ?
[11:21] <warbler> gluonman: apologies - when I said ubuntu I meant / (the root directory) - you need 5 gig for that  - I use a partition for /opt because I use swiftfox etc, progs that I download and the rest for /home so a reinstall saves most settings
[11:21] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, also you can't perform some actions on filesystems while they are mounted, they need to be unmounted first
[11:21] <Sergemine> Guys, need someone to share a quick & dirty way of setting up graphics in Ubunu. I know my graphics/screen is not supported by Ubuntu out of the box. I tryed loading in safe graphics mode, but it didn't work. I can attach another screen which is probably going to work fine with VESA. It will let me install the restricteddrivers, but in case it doesn't start xserver properly next time I boot with my main sceen... What's s good way to reconfigure my xserve
[11:22] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php
[11:22] <warbler> gluonman: Atomic_ue makes a good point - the gparted on the live cd might do the job
[11:22] <gluonman> warbler, okay. So sda1, for me, is what you just called ubuntu. And I make /opt and /home in addition to the two others that are present, for whatever reason? And /home is where the os upgrades are done?
[11:23] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, look up the "required software" from that page in synaptic and you should be all good
[11:24] <warbler> gluonman: what I called ubuntu then partitioner calls / ( that is the root directory - where the OS is)
[11:24] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, I will do that. If I unmount my root partition, what will happen to my access to it while I'm using it?
[11:24] <Konisuaa> hi
[11:24] <Konisuaa> Van esetleg itt magyar? :)
[11:24] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, you can't unmount it
[11:24] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, it'll say it's in use
[11:24] <Hexxeh> Hey guys.
[11:24] <dgts> gnome seems to have 2 desktops after gutsy default installation, how can i add more desktops?
[11:24] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, that's what I was thinking. But I thought I'd ask since I don't fully understand this stuff.
[11:25] <buttercups> Sergemine, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ,is a way to reconfigure xserv.
[11:25] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, if u were able to do that then the momeny something needed to write to that partition or read from it, you'd be screwed ;)
[11:25] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, moment*
[11:25] <Sergemine> buttercups, thank you
[11:25] <Hexxeh> I'm trying to setup fglrx on my X1800XL, and I'm having exactly the same problem as this guy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3630255&postcount=22
[11:25] <Hexxeh> Anyone got ideas how to get it working?
[11:25] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, but so long as nothing needed to write/read to/from it, you could get away with it
[11:25] <gluonman> Atomic_UE if after making sure I have all of the libraries to support gparted fully, if I still can't do it, I'll just use my CD.
[11:26] <gluonman> Atomic_UE as far as things writing/reading to/from it, what do you mean? What kind of processes are you talking about?
[11:26] <Koni_HUN> i need help Hungaryan language :(
[11:26] <warbler> !hu
[11:26] <Hexxeh> I'm trying to install fglrx to get emerald to work
[11:26] <ubotu> Magyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál
[11:26] <world> I just installed drupal 5.1 on ubuntu 7.10, Apache2, PHP5 server. Can anyone remind me what to do when Firefox asks what to open the install page with? PLease and thank you.
[11:27] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, from my experience if i've ever had to do stuff to my root partition it'd always be from either a live cd or in rescue mode (where everything runs from memory)
[11:27] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, I'll just do that, then.
[11:27] <rayb0t> world, if firefox is asking to "open" the install.php (or whatever it's called) it means apache isnt set up to serve php properly, iirc
[11:27] <achadwick> Aha, finally got Pidgin to behave sensibly with channels the size of #ubuntu: turn on the Join/Part hiding plugin (joinpart.so) in the standard libpurple package. D'oh...
[11:28] <gluonman> warbler, Atomic_UE, man you guys have been helpful. I'm learning a lot.
[11:28] <Koni_HUN> :( #ubuntu-hu empty :(
[11:28] <Hexxeh> Except I'm on a 64bit system with 32bit Ubuntu
[11:28] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, no worries :)
[11:28] <Hexxeh> Anyone got any ideas?
[11:28] <Atomic_UE> achadwick, Yeh I gave pidgin a chance, but after 2 min said NO and got xchat :P
[11:28] <JakeM> Did NVidia support get worse in 7.10, or am I crazy?
[11:29] <dgts> gnome seems to have 2 desktops after gutsy default installation, how can i add more desktops to it?
[11:29] <Hexxeh> JakeM: I don't think it could be as bad as ATi support
[11:29] <JakeM> Well, so far I can't even boot the live CD. :P
[11:29] <warbler> gluonman: all you need is practise and dirction - it gets easier
[11:29] <warbler> *direction
[11:29] <JakeM> Well, it boots, but regardless of what I select from the boot menu, I get a lovely black screen.
[11:30] <gluonman> warbler, right. And after a while I'll be instructing others on these subjects.
[11:30] <Atomic_UE> JakeM, I'm assuming you tried safe graphcis mode
[11:30] <Moduliz0r> What would I use to write a video file to DVD?
[11:30] <warbler> gluonman: that's where i"m at now - but still learning heaps
[11:30] <JakeM> Yeah
[11:30] <Moduliz0r> in the DVD format
[11:31] <gluonman> warbler, of course!
[11:31] <Koni_HUN> i have ASUS WL-106gM Wireless Adapter , don't work in ubuntu :(
[11:31] <JakeM> 7.04 installed and booted fine, it just refused to keep my driver updates across a reboot for some reason.
[11:32] <Atomic_UE> JakeM, you could always try the alternative non gui install. apart from that I wouldn't know much else, other people might
[11:32] <Indust> Hi All, In Gusty Gibbon,  the "external screen" of my laptop  does not work ... i tried some stuff at the Xorg.conf ...
[11:32] <Indust> also my feisty xorg.conf does not work        ~~hlp pls
[11:32] <Hexxeh> Anyone got any ideas about my question?
[11:32] <JakeM> Downloading that ISO now.  Thanks.
[11:32] <Hexxeh> I'd really like to use Emerald themes
[11:32] <Hexxeh> Here's my fglrxinfo: http://pastebin.com/m7c192f53
[11:33] <JakeM> Although it doesn't bode well for my post-install experience.
[11:33] <Bonster> anyone got share folders to work in VirtualBox?
[11:33] <Atomic_UE> Indust, I can't help you with that, but I want to know what brand/model of laptop you got? I never seen a laptop with an external display before :P
[11:33] <JakeM> I've yet to find a distribution that loves my 8800 "out of the box".
[11:33] <achadwick> Atomic_UE: yeah, if only it didn't use bold for said messages. It has an xchat-style neat display (right/left align), but that doesn't do url linkification :(
[11:34] <achadwick> BTW, if I'm spewing out colours and other idiocies, tell me.
[11:34] <mizzer0ni> hi i have set my ubuntu 7.10 to sho the text during boot instead of having silly logo thing, but I dont see any text :-S used 2 work in 7.04, anyone know how 2 fix?
[11:34] <Hexxeh> brb, gonna try restarting X
[11:34] <Indust> Atomic_UE:   it is a internal ( normal) screen and a external screen - via vga-out
[11:34] <Atomic_UE> achadwick, coloured names in xchat ftw....that's what makes me use xchat...so much easier to keep track of which message belong to who
[11:35] <Moduliz0r> Pidgin IM FTW!!!
[11:35] <Bonster> mizzer0ni: Dl start up manager
[11:35] <mizzer0ni> Bonster, thanks but i have it, have set it to show text but i see none
[11:35] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, actually, come to think of it, when I downloaded gparted from synaptic, before I clicked apply, it listed it under NOT AUTHORIZED. Would that have anything to do with its lack of function?
[11:35]  * achadwick is faintly embarrassed to be using Pidgin, but is prepared to give it a chance.
[11:35] <Atomic_UE> Indust, ah ok...oh well i'm sure they'll come up witha  laptop with an external display one day....they have on mobiles :P
[11:35] <mariusz_k> hello
[11:35] <Moduliz0r> Haha
[11:35] <Moduliz0r> Pidgin works perfect
[11:36] <bXi> can i display an image from the commandline in some kind of gnome image viewer
[11:36] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, shouldn't, but that sounds like your gpg keys for verifying the repos isn't setup right
[11:36] <buttercups> mizzer0ni, did you remove "quiet splash" in your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:36] <achadwick> bXi: sure, the default one is named "eog", IIRC.
[11:36] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, for one thing, I'm not sure what gpgs are. And how do I set them up right?
[11:36] <bXi> thats just eog image.jpg ?
[11:37] <achadwick> should be...
[11:37] <shomon> hi - I've got ubuntu edgy, and I'd like to have the jamendo plugin for rhythmbox. Is there a way, apart from upgrading (I just did that last week. Wish I could skip upgrades and go directly to the newest...)
[11:37] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, i've had that happen on the rare install of ubuntu 6.06 where the gpg keys for verifying packages from the ubuntu repos didn't get setup properly, and even though they were from the official repos it'd say they're unauthorised
[11:38] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, how do I fix the gpg keys?
[11:38] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, System > Administration > Software Sorces > Authentication
[11:38] <mcp_> What is the "ubufox" extension for?
[11:39] <mcp_> can i disable it?
[11:39] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, there should be atleast 2 things listed in there for Ubuntu stuff
[11:39] <xeer> hi everyone, using feisty here.. i have a fakeraid which seems to be mounted to /media/raid. no harm there, but when i try to find the mount point i end up at a dead end. 'mount' returns nothing regarding the fakeraid whatsoever.
[11:40] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, or maybe just one if u didn't install from the CD
[11:40] <shomon> actually: how do you upgrade directly from edgy to the new one?
[11:41] <xeer> oh, it also reports an inaccurate disk space.. it's two ~70gb 10k raptors, says it has over 980gb of space
[11:41] <xeer> though, data can successfuly be written to it
[11:41] <Hexxeh> back
[11:41] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, what's listed is: 437D05B5 2004-09-12 - Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>FBB75451 2004-12-30 - Ubuntu CD Image Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and 0C5A2783 2006-11-23 - Medibuntu Packaging Team<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:41] <Hexxeh> Well, Ubuntu says it's now using fglrx, but fglrxinfo still disagrees.
[11:41] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, 3 items.
[11:42] <Hexxeh> glxgears is giving about 300fps, lowest yet
[11:42] <Hexxeh> Any ideas?
[11:42] <xeer> Hexxeh, 5k here.. =/
[11:42] <|alp|> cool 1900 fps ^^
[11:42] <|alp|> 5k? wow
[11:42] <xeer> Hexxeh, i don't even know your question.. i'm not much help
[11:42] <Hexxeh> I'm on a X1800, I should be getting much higher for 3 gears.
[11:43] <Hexxeh> I'm trying to install the proper driver for my ATi X1800 and get emerald working
[11:43] <Hexxeh> But it's not going well.
[11:43] <Hexxeh> I've been following this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=589075
[11:43] <xeer> Hexxeh, seems you don't have the proprietary driver installed right
[11:43] <xeer> try a fresh install?
[11:43] <Hexxeh> And I've got the same problem as this guy http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3630255&postcount=22 except I'm on 32bit ubuntu
[11:43] <Hexxeh> Tried that 3 times this morning
[11:44] <xeer> did you check the line in your xorg?
[11:44] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, mmm dunno why you're getting that message then, but not to worry you can live without them
[11:44] <mariusz_k> got question when i installed beryl and lunch i dont have minimize and maximize exit etc.
[11:44] <eugo> 'mount -t smbfs' or 'mount -t cifs' <-- which to use?
[11:44] <Hexxeh> "	Driver		"fglrx""
[11:44] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, okay.
[11:44] <Hexxeh> I'll pastebin my xorg.conf, one sec
[11:44] <arthurk> Hi all anyone know if Turbo-G supported in Ubuntu ?
[11:44] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, they're just used to verify that package you downloaded from the official repos actually came from the official repos
[11:45] <mariusz_k> got question when i installed beryl and lunch i dont have minimize and maximize exit etc.   version of ubuntu is 7,04
[11:45] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, okay.
[11:46] <Hexxeh> xeer: http://pastebin.com/m464960d9
[11:46] <Hexxeh> That's my current xorg.conf
[11:46] <[chr0n0s]> how do i get a temperature monitor in xfce panel ?
[11:46] <g0th> hi
[11:47] <xeer> that xorg.conf is screwed to hell
[11:47] <Hexxeh> It is?
[11:47] <xeer> you shouldn't have to touch the conf if you use the ati tool supplied with the driver
[11:47] <Atomic_UE> arthurk, that sounds like some marketing slang from D-Link for extra fast 802.11g wifi?
[11:47] <Hexxeh> I just got dpkg-configure to make one
[11:47] <Hexxeh> xeer: The tool crashes
[11:47] <Hexxeh> Apparently it happens on Gutsy.
[11:47] <Koni_HUN> i have ASUS WL-106gM Wireless Adapter , don't work in ubuntu :(
[11:48] <xeer> Hexxeh, not a good sign.. error?
[11:48] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, I'm going to go ahead and put in the installation CD and reboot. And gparted will still be available when I boot from the CD so I can do the partitioning?
[11:48] <Hexxeh> No wait, maybe it doesn't anymore. It did earlier on with the one from the repos
[11:48] <newguy> hey im experiencing problems with Open Office presentation documents, OO gets a grey screen and freezes, ive installed all the updates and am using 7.10, anyone found this problem?
[11:48] <newguy> or a solution?
[11:48] <[chr0n0s]> how do i get a temperature monitor in xfce panel ?
[11:48] <Hexxeh> What parameters should I give the aticonfig tool then xeer
[11:48] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, gparted is on the live cd yes
[11:48] <xeer> Hexxeh, first.. aticonfig --initial
[11:49] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, sweet. I'll do that then. I'll sign back on if I'm having any problems. Later.
[11:49] <Hexxeh> "Nothing to do, terminating."
[11:49] <Atomic_UE> Gluocya
[11:49] <xeer> Hexxeh, i'd start out with a fresh xorg.conf though
[11:49] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, cya
[11:49] <Hexxeh> But before that "Found fglrx primary device section"
[11:49] <Hexxeh> xeer, where can I get one from?
[11:49] <xeer> Hexxeh. O_O you didn't backup!?
[11:49] <arthurk> Atomic yep ... it actually from Airlive WT2000USB ....
[11:50] <Hexxeh> Nope, I was using dpkg-reconfigure or whatever it's called.
[11:50] <[chr0n0s]> how do i get a processor temperature monitor in xfce panel ?
[11:50] <Hexxeh> Just following instructions from the forums.
[11:50] <arthurk> It's an USB adapter, whn I install it, Ubuntu will freeze.
[11:51] <Atomic_UE> arthurk, that's just a marketing gimick really. It should work fine with your router so long as your wifi card supports what the wifi router provides
[11:52] <Hexxeh> xeer: Where can I get a new default one to start from?
[11:54] <pawan> getting error
[11:54] <buttercups> Hexxeh, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg will give you a new xorg.conf file
[11:54] <pawan> ur session only lasted 10 seconds
[11:54] <defrysk> obnoxious indeed
[11:54] <Hexxeh> buttercups: That's what generated the one I posted which is apparently a mess
[11:54]  * achadwick hands pawan a "yo".
[11:55] <pawan> what
[11:55] <achadwick> pawan: I got that, and found that it was my .gnomerc at fault: it was calling my .profile, which called something with a bashism, IIRC. Messy.
[11:55] <pawan> ok
[11:55] <pawan> then
[11:56] <achadwick> pawan: if you've been upgrading, watch out for dodgy scripts in old accts.
[11:56] <pawan> i am upgrading
[11:56] <pawan> how to get rid
[11:56] <buttercups> Hexxeh, are you trying to install the new ati driver that supports desktop effects?
[11:56] <Hexxeh> Yes
[11:57] <mjtunes> hi
[11:57] <Hexxeh> I was using this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=589075
[11:57] <Hexxeh> But it still doesn't work
[11:57] <mjtunes> i tryed doing a update and i got this
[11:57] <pawan> gettting updates avaliable icon
[11:57] <achadwick> pawan: first step Ctrl+Alt+F1, and see if you can log the user in there. (Ctrl+Alt+F7 gets you back)
[11:58] <mjtunes> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:58] <mjtunes> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[11:58] <achadwick> If you can, you can move their .gnomerc out of the way, which may solve the problem.
[11:58] <mjtunes> any idias
[11:58] <buttercups> Hexxeh, ok this is how I got mine working on my x300, scroll down to "Install from ati.com (latest version of drivers)" at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:58] <pawan> it does
[11:58] <buttercups> Hexxeh, follow that then
[11:58] <pawan> but stays at terminal
[11:59] <achadwick> pawan: Finally, if you can pastebin the user's ~/.xsession-errors, we can have a look
[11:59] <Hexxeh> Use the fiesty instructions?
[11:59] <buttercups> Hexxeh, then steps 14 15 and 16 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=591066
[11:59] <achadwick> pawan: yes, that's expected behaviour of the console.
[11:59] <buttercups> Hexxeh,  Its how I got mine to work
[11:59] <newguy> hey im experiencing problems with Open Office presentation documents, OO gets a grey screen and freezes, ive installed all the updates and am using 7.10, anyone found this problem?
[11:59] <Hexxeh> Okay.
[12:00] <aantn> monodevelop seems to be broken
[12:00] <pawan> i cannot get to the xsession folder
[12:00] <pawan> none of my computer folders are opening
[12:01] <aantn> http://rafb.net/p/0QRPcI56.html
[12:01] <achadwick> Hmm. Ownerships, perhaps. Did you update normally using update-manager?
[12:01] <pawan> /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp
[12:01] <pawan> /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/X11R6/bin/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "pawan"
[12:01] <pawan> /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
[12:01] <pawan> SESSION_MANAGER=local/pawan-desktop:/tmp/.ICE-unix/5985
[12:01] <buttercups> Hexxeh,  replace feisty with gutsy in the first step though
[12:01] <mjtunes> yes
[12:02] <achadwick> pawan: http://pastebin.com/ please
[12:02] <compwiz18> I
[12:02] <compwiz18> I'm using compiz with fglrx and things are lagging, specifically firefox when I scroll... ideas?
[12:03] <pawan> hello
[12:03] <compwiz18> oh, with aiglx
[12:03] <achadwick> (or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ - these sites help keep IRC uncluttered :-)
[12:03] <Flynsarmy> Anyone have a STAC 92XX audio card?
[12:03] <pawan> now
[12:03] <Flynsarmy> Audio doesn't work in ubuntu with it
[12:04] <nana> ola
[12:05] <kharloss>  hi there. i want to install ubuntu server 7.10 but my hard drives isn`t recognized. i use this SCSI controler : http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/support/scsi/u320/ASC-39320D/  any solution ?
[12:07] <Hexxeh> buttercups: Are you on Gutsy?
[12:07] <kharloss> yes
[12:07] <gluonman> warbler, are you still there?
[12:07] <buttercups> Hexxeh, Yes
[12:07] <Hexxeh> ?
[12:07] <Hexxeh> And that guide worked?
[12:07] <buttercups> yes
[12:08] <Hexxeh> It says to --buildpkg Ubuntu/feisty
[12:08] <redt0nia> dos gutsy support the SB live card?
[12:08] <compwiz18> sorry let me rephrase my last question
[12:08] <buttercups> replace with Gutsy
[12:09] <compwiz18> I'm using Gutsy with fglrx and AIGLX and compiz-fusion, and firefox and the screensaver lags... any idea as to how I might go around fixing it?
[12:09] <mjtunes> soz closed wrong window
[12:09] <Hexxeh> Okay, cheers.
[12:09] <Sonderblade> how do you make cups autodetect printers?
[12:10] <Sonderblade> network printers
[12:10] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, you still there?
[12:10] <Atomic_UE> Atomic_UE, yeh
[12:10] <mizzer0ni> hi i want to see the boot text when i start ubuntu 7.10, I set it to show the text with startupmanager and i delete quiet splash from grub config, but all i see is a black screen in boot, anyone know how 2 fix??
[12:11] <void^> compwiz18: fglrx doesn't support aiglx, you must be using xgl
[12:11] <buttercups> Hexxeh, Just dont forget to follow steps 14 15 16 on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=591066 also
[12:11] <LinuxInside> ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso    is no GUI while installing ????????
[12:11] <Atomic_UE> Sonderblade, when you add a new printer the first thing it does is try to auto detect printers....if it's on a network it may not find the printer the first go, so totally close the printing config app and try again
[12:12] <LinuxInside> ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso    is no GUI while installing ????????  anyone help~~~
[12:12] <compwiz18> void^, it does.  it hasn't gotten around yet, 8.42 does.
[12:12] <mjtunes> any 1 got any ideas on this en
[12:12] <Atomic_UE> Sonderblade, i tried that thing today at my placee of work n the network printer i wanted took 2 tries for it to find it
[12:12] <buttercups> LinuxInside, the alternate is a text based installer
[12:12] <neopsych1> hi mjtunes
[12:12] <deadheron> LinuxInside: thats right
[12:12] <mjtunes> hi
[12:12] <dgjones> LinuxInside, thats right, it uses a command line installation, if you want a gui install you need the LiveCD
[12:12] <compwiz18> void^, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3631956
[12:12] <LinuxInside> oh `~~~thanks~~
[12:12] <deadheron> LinuxInside: Download desktop installer (live cd) for GUI install
[12:12] <mjtunes> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[12:12] <mjtunes> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[12:12] <Flynsarmy> Nobody has any idea how to get STAC 92XX audio working?
[12:13] <Sonderblade> Atomic_UE: i've tried a few times using gnome-cups-manager, but it refuses to find it
[12:13] <LinuxInside> I have nero the disc~~
[12:13] <Atomic_UE> LinuxInside, the live cd is the one labeled 'desktop'
[12:13] <buttercups> mjtunes, just run sudo dpkg --configure -a , in a terminal
[12:13] <Sonderblade> Atomic_UE: manually adding the printer and using raw printing works, but i want auto-detection :)
[12:13] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, yeh i'm here
[12:13] <LinuxInside> thanks
[12:13] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, I am booted from the CD and gparted works. However, I'm not really sure how to do exactly what warbler was telling me to do. He said for me to give my root partition 5gigs and then to creat an /opt partition with 3gigs and a /home partition that uses the rest of the space. I was unable to figure out how to create a partition named /opt or /home. Also, I was unable to shrink my root partition to only 5gigs. I'm just not real
[12:13] <gluonman> ly sure what I'm doing.
[12:13] <mjtunes> kk will it work en
[12:14] <void^> compwiz18: oh, hadn't heard of that. well, 2D performance on compiz is always (significantly) lower than without compiz, depending on your hardware and driver. perhaps the new aiglx support lowers performance as well.
[12:14] <buttercups> mjtunes, should
[12:14] <Atomic_UE> Sonderblade, if the manual setup worked then use it ;)
[12:14] <Hexxeh> okay, done that
[12:14] <mizzer0ni> hi i want to see the boot text when i start ubuntu 7.10, I set it to show the text with startupmanager and i delete quiet splash from grub config, but all i see is a black screen in boot, anyone know how 2 fix??
[12:14] <Hexxeh> Gonna try the reboot now.
[12:14] <Hexxeh> brb
[12:14] <leopard> HI ALL
[12:14] <mjtunes> dpkg: error processing libpng12-0 (--configure):
[12:14] <mjtunes>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[12:14] <mjtunes>  reinstall it before attempting configuration.
[12:14] <mjtunes> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:14] <mjtunes>  libpng12-0
[12:14] <Sonderblade> Atomic_UE: no i only get grayscale printing
[12:14] <mizzer0ni> hai leopard
[12:15] <compwiz18> void^, ok.  I wasn't sure if it was just an ATI thing ;)  I've gotta give them some credit for finally getting AIGLX out though...
[12:15] <mattycoze> hey guys i',m trying to mount a USB HD that's prooving difficult can someone help me PLEEASE!
[12:15] <mizzer0ni> why difficult mattycoze
[12:15] <mattycoze> because i suck at manually doing it for a start
[12:16] <mjtunes> should ii reinstall  libpng12-0
[12:16] <leopard> hi serious people!
[12:16] <mjtunes> en
[12:16] <mattycoze> when i run lsusb it finds the HD but i dunno how to mount it
[12:16] <Atomic_UE> Sonderblade, maybe check the settings of the printer in the printer config
[12:16] <deadheron> doesnt ubuntu recognize the harddisk automatically mattycoze/
[12:16] <mizzer0ni> i want to see the boot text when i start ubuntu 7.10, I set it to show the text with startupmanager and i delete quiet splash from grub config, but all i see is a black screen in boot, anyone know how 2 fix?? what's this stuff about framebuffer bug blah
[12:16] <mattycoze> deadheron, no, it used to but not anymore
[12:16] <Sonderblade> Atomic_UE: windows users get color printing
[12:16] <lkthomas> guys
[12:16] <leopard> hi mizzoani
[12:16] <zbyszek_> hello
[12:16] <mattycoze> deadheron, i just need to mount it this once to reboot the computer once i back up the files
[12:16] <lkthomas> what's diff between LVM volume group and logical volume ?
[12:17] <Atomic_UE> Sonderblade, i mean the settings in ubuntu printer config
[12:17] <leopard> Hi mizzeroni
[12:17] <Atomic_UE> Sonderblade, I've seen some drivers have colour as an option
[12:17] <Atomic_UE> Sonderblade, If that doesn't work try selecting a driver that is similar to your printer
[12:17] <deadheron> mattycoze: do you know what drive your usb drive is (like /dev/hdb)
[12:18] <mattycoze> deadheron, no
[12:18] <Atomic_UE> Sonderblade, if that don't work try and get a hold of a PPD file from a windows/mac driver install and use that for your driver
[12:18] <deadheron> mattycoze: sudo fdisk -l
[12:18] <mattycoze> kk brb
[12:19] <leopard> Hi atomic_ue
[12:19] <deadheron> mattycoze: could be /dev/sdb1 or /dev/sdc1 ..
[12:19] <mattycoze> deadheron okay i get a /dev/sdb1
[12:19] <leopard> Strange nick
[12:19] <deadheron> mattycoze: that is your usb drive?
[12:19] <Atomic_UE> leopard, hi
[12:19] <mattycoze> deadheron yeah pretty sure it is,
[12:19] <Sonderblade> Atomic_UE: actually i have a driver that exactly matches the printer model
[12:20] <Atomic_UE> leopard, Atomic was taken, and UE is short for something
[12:20] <mattycoze> deadheron, haven't got anything with that capacity other than the USB drive; 312568641blocks
[12:20] <mattycoze> :p
[12:20] <leopard> May i know your topic?
[12:20] <Flynsarmy> Nobody has any idea how to get STAC 92XX audio working?
[12:20] <LinuxInside> ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso  while i install it ,my computer stop at "setting apt"~~~~~  complited 40%
[12:20] <Alp`> which filemanager do you use? i hope there are better alternatives than nautilus
[12:20] <deadheron> mattycoze: mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usbdrive
[12:20] <Hexxeh> buttercups: Nope, I rebooted after doing that, logged in, and just got a while screen, had to select Failsafe GNOME to get back in.
[12:20] <mattycoze> kk i'll give that a go k?
[12:21] <deadheron> mattycoze: yes, with sudo
[12:21] <Atomic_UE> Sonderblade, well use that, if it don't work pick a similar matching one
[12:21] <deadheron> mattycoze: so : sudo mount /dev/sdb1 media/usbdrive
[12:21] <LinuxInside> ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso  while i install it ,my computer stop at "setting apt"~~~~~  completed 40%
[12:21] <mattycoze> deadheron; i got 'mount: mount point /media/usbdrive does not exist'
[12:21] <deadheron> mattycoze: sudo mkdir /media/usbdrive
[12:21] <mattycoze> lol fair enough
[12:21] <mattycoze> brb
[12:21] <LinuxInside> ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso  while i install it ,my computer stop at "setting apt"~~~~~  complited 40%     anyone help~~~~~~~thanks!!
[12:21] <Hexxeh> Any ideas buttercups?
[12:22] <dgjones> !repeat | LinuxInside
[12:22] <ubotu> LinuxInside: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:22] <buttercups> Hexxeh, , theres a few over at #ati right now
[12:22] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, did you read my question up above?
[12:22] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, if you right click on your Root partition in gparted and make sure it's unmounted, you should then be given the option to resize it to 5gb
[12:22] <deadheron> mattycoze: and then do: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usbdrive again
[12:22] <eistee>  #ubuntu-dr
[12:22] <Hexxeh> buttercups: Okay I'll try there.
[12:22] <mattycoze> deadheron okay this time when i tried mounting i got: you msut specify the file system
[12:22] <buttercups> Hexxeh, you did follow steps 14 15 16 at the link I gave you right?
[12:22] <deadheron> oh yeah hehe
[12:23] <deadheron> mattycoze: what filesystem is it? you can see in sudo fdisk -l
[12:23] <LinuxInside> thanks `~~~~
[12:23] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, then how do I create the /opt and /home partitions?
[12:23] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, you should then be able to create your other partitions at whatever sizes and mount them as /opt and /home etc
[12:23] <mattycoze> W95 Fat32 (LBA) whatever that means
[12:23] <LinuxInside> it go on installing now~~
[12:23] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, select the free space that should result from making your other partition smaller
[12:23] <deadheron> mattycoze : sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/usbdrive
[12:23] <Atomic_UE> then click the New button
[12:24] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, are there already options called /opt and /home, or is there a box in which I enter those names?
[12:24] <Hexxeh> buttercups: Yep. I think that's why I got the whitescreen, Compiz was attempting to start but couldn't.
[12:24] <Atomic_UE> select ext3 or whatever, and the appropriate mount point
[12:24] <Hexxeh> buttercups: Does it have a log file somewhere?
[12:24] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, both...there will probably be a lil blank box drop down, if you click the drop down bit you can select the mount point, or you can just type it in
[12:25] <randa1> hmm ... Cant seem to upgrade to 7,10 ... my /boot is all of a sudden to small ?? :(
[12:25] <Atomic_UE> leopard, type /topic if you want to know the channel topic
[12:26] <mattycoze> deadheron, okay right, i can access it but no permissions to delete file, copy, paste ect
[12:26] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, it will only allow me to shrink partition /dev/sda1 (my root partition) to 18.48GiB.
[12:26] <deadheron> mattycoze: you should access it as root
[12:26] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, when you've got what you want you can continue on with the install
[12:26] <deadheron> mattycoze: so: gksudo nautilus /media/usbdrive
[12:26] <mizzer0ni> i want to see the boot text when i start ubuntu 7.10, I set it to show the text with startupmanager and i delete quiet splash from grub config, but all i see is a black screen in boot, anyone know how 2 fix?? what's this stuff about framebuffer bug blah
[12:26] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, that's probably because you have 18gb worth of stuff on there?
[12:26] <mattycoze> oh ... okay, would that be any problem if say i wanted to access the same files from a different computer on the USB drive?
[12:26] <mcp_> mizzer0ni, uninstall the splash-package with synaptic
[12:27] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, so I should delete all of that stuff after putting them on my ext hdd before partitioning, then?
[12:27] <mcp_> mizzer0ni, i dunno the exact package name, so youll have to search for
[12:27] <deadheron> mattycoze: you can access the usb drive from any computer yes
[12:27] <Atomic_UE> mizzer0ni, did you change the screen resolution or colour depth in startup manager?
[12:27] <mattycoze> deadheron, okay well that's fair enough thanks 4 ya help
[12:27] <deadheron> mattycoze: np
[12:27] <mizzer0ni> yes Atomic_UE just res
[12:27] <mattycoze> i think i won't have this problem once i reinstall with the new version of Ubuntu
[12:27] <mattycoze> 7.10
[12:27] <mattycoze> :p
[12:27] <mizzer0ni> mcp, okey thnx i look for it
[12:28] <deadheron> mattycoze: i think you're right
[12:28] <LinuxInside> ubotu:     my first language is not EN, I can't describe my problem clearly in EN~~~~~
[12:28] <LinuxInside> hi , here!!!
[12:28] <Atomic_UE> mizzer0ni, you may of picked a resolution that your monitor doesn't support perhaps, so pick something lower/more appropriate
[12:28] <dgjones> LinuxInside, what is your native language, maybe there's a channel in your own language?
[12:29] <mizzer0ni> Atomic_UE, yer i picked 1024 x 768 or whatever it is, i have 1280 x 800 monitor, i used 1024 x 768 in fiesty and it worked
[12:29] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, if you've still got all your data and want to reinstall the entire system
[12:30] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, yeah I'll just do that. Put everything on ext hdd and start from scratch and reinstall Ubuntu.
[12:30] <neopsyche> How do i add an extra desktop to the bar at the bottom of gnome?
[12:30] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, if you don't have much I suggest at the very least having / at 5gb and /home as everything else, that's how I set mine up. that way whenever i want to install a new distro or whatever I just use my 5gb / for the OS and just remount /home without formatting it so it still has everything
[12:30] <Jonah|Takalua> alt+f4
[12:30] <Gorb> hi all
[12:30] <neopsyche> I only have two at the moment
[12:31] <mizzer0ni> right click it neopsyche
[12:31] <neopsyche> alt+f4?
[12:31] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, my only problem is that in gparted, it doesn't allow me any option of calling a partition /opt or /home. Will that be different when I reinstall Ubuntu?
[12:31] <muronglie> hi all
[12:31] <neopsyche> mizzer0ni: cool .. then?
[12:31] <Atomic_UE> mizzer0ni, in startup manager, make sure you enable Show Boot Slapsh in the Misc section
[12:32] <Gorb> I'm sorry, I'm connecting my mouse through serial port(not  ps/2) can I load live cd with drivers for my mouse?
[12:32] <Atomic_UE> mizzer0ni, I found out that refers to the OS splash screen and not Grub's splash screen
[12:32] <neopsyche> How do i add an extra desktop to the bar at the bottom of gnome?
[12:32] <deadheron> neopsyche rightclick it select properties
[12:33] <neopsyche> deadheron: ok then?
[12:33] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, that's odd...you should be able to mount a partition at /home etc so long as it's not already got one listed their as the same
[12:33] <Gorb> it doesn't moveing now
[12:33] <deadheron> neopsyche: make columns some more...
[12:33] <jasonago> I'm planning to buy an external modem for dialup use...are almost all external modems being supported by ubuntu out of the box?
[12:33] <hetauma__> can I use mouse button 5? (mousewheel pressed) so that I can scroll up and down firefox ?
[12:33] <neopsyche> deadheron: columns?
[12:33] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, so when I install the new distro, I will boot into the 5gig / and installing the upgrades after having unmounted the /home? So do I not even need a /opt? What's /opt for, just a place to store installed programs?
[12:34] <neopsyche> deadheron: I just want another virtual desktop
[12:34] <neopsyche> deadheron: there are only two instaead of four
[12:34] <Gorb> what parametres should I enter?
[12:34] <deadheron> neopsyche: you mean workspaces
[12:34] <neopsyche> deadheron: yes
[12:34] <deadheron> rightclick your workspaces in the gnome bar
[12:34] <deadheron> neopsyche
[12:35] <neopsyche> deadheron: okj
[12:35] <jasonago> I'm planning to buy an external modem for dialup use...are almost all external modems being supported by ubuntu out of the box?
[12:35] <neopsyche> ok thanks i got it
[12:35] <neopsyche> deadheron: thans
[12:35] <Atomic_UE> Gladiat0r, traditionally from what I know /opt is used for your third party software that is installed after the whole system has been installed and considered working. If you ever install something like Google Earth with root privleges it'll install in /opt
[12:35] <neopsyche> deadheron: thanks
[12:35] <deadheron> neopsyche: then select properties of preferences ( im not sure)
[12:35] <deadheron> neopsyche: np
[12:35] <Atomic_UE> Gladiat0r, sorry not you
[12:35] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, traditionally from what I know /opt is used for your third party software that is installed after the whole system has been installed and considered working. If you ever install something like Google Earth with root privleges it'll install in /opt
[12:36] <jisatsu> how can I change the colours used by KDE apps without installing KDE?
[12:36] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, when it says Create As:, the only option it is allowing me is Primary Partition. Where it says Filesystem: the only options are ext3, ext2, fat16, fat32, jfs, linux-swap, ntfs, reiserfs, xfs, and unformatted.
[12:36] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, /opt might be useful, but I don't really think so
[12:36] <itoure> hi
[12:36] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, nothing that says /opt or /home.
[12:36] <sHELL> can I kiss you guys? ubuntu 7.10 finaly gets my native resolution on my laptop
[12:36] <neopsyche> how to hotkey switch between workspaces?
[12:36] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, but do you think I'll run into the same thing when reinstalling Ubuntu? Or will I have the same problem
[12:37] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, that is the filesystem type it's asking
[12:37] <nalpha> sHELL if you girls you can... it's great to hear that
[12:37] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, if it's going to be used for linux you want to format it as ext3 type
[12:37] <sHELL> :P
[12:37] <Arafangion> nalpha: Actually in many cultures, it's acceptable for guys to kiss as well.
[12:38] <sHELL> but I was kinda amazed... like... woooah!!! finaly!
[12:38] <Arafangion> nalpha: Three times, on alternating sides of the cheek.
[12:38] <nalpha> Arafangion uuppss... I'm in a major culture...
[12:38] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, you might also want a swap partition of 1gb or something (depending how much memory you have) of type linux-swap
[12:38] <embrace-Ubuntu> anybody knows: .bashrc, what does rc mean here??? (statnds for what)?
[12:38] <Arafangion> embrace-Ubuntu: Release Candidate.
[12:38] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, so after choosing ext3, then I will name it /home?
[12:38] <Barbarello> How to remove ubuntu from system? And can i set up newre version above the older one?
[12:38] <Arafangion> embrace-Ubuntu: Oh, for that...
[12:38] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, if it's going to be used for windows type ntfs is what winxp uses, fat32 is what older windows use
[12:38] <Arafangion> embrace-Ubuntu: Hmm, runtime configuration?
[12:38] <embrace-Ubuntu> Arafangion: in the home directory
[12:39] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, I already have a linux-swap parition. It was automatically created for me.
[12:39] <arcil_> can i use cron to execute a command every time i boot?
[12:39] <Arafangion> arcil_: Not really.
[12:39] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, yeh that is the filesystem type it's asking you. after that should be the Mount Point which will be /home or whatever
[12:40] <arcil_> Arafangion: so how can i auto update/upgrade my system every time i boot?
[12:40] <embrace-Ubuntu> Arafangion: thx
[12:40] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, so I think I'm going to go ahead and also include an /opt just if it turns out to be useful. And that will be ext3 too, right?
[12:40] <Arafangion> arcil_: You really don't want to do that.
[12:40] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, my laptop battery is goin flat. been running on battery for 4 hours. gimmie a sec to plug some juice into this thing ;)
[12:40] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, yes it will
[12:41] <onexused> Has anyone who's updated to Ubuntu 7.10 been having problems with Firefox and forums?
[12:41] <Arafangion> arcil_: It's possible for an upgrade to die, and do you really want to apply updates on teh morning that you need to hand in a major piece of work?
[12:41] <Hexxeh> buttercups: "aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity" when I type compiz into a terminal, any ideas?
[12:41] <Arafangion> arcil_: Just update every few months in your own time.
[12:41] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, thanks.
[12:41] <Hexxeh> No joy in #ati
[12:42] <arcil_> Arafangion: hm ok, i thought within a distri are no real changes but bugfixes. or is it only debian with its stable distri which handle things in this way
[12:42] <onexused> When I go to the reply thing on Annoyances.org, or try to load Firefox's forums, Firefox (<IP_ADDRESS>) crashes.  Before the upgrade, it didn't.  Any suggestions?
[12:42] <ehsan> salam
[12:43] <Morrissey> Hi ... I have a litle problem with Amarok ... it seems like its allways running in "full screen". I don't have any borders in kwin, nor emerald .... The amarok window takes up all of my screen, and there is no way to move it or resize it ... any ideas?
[12:44] <deadheron> Morrissey cant you move it with holding alt and left mouse button?
[12:44] <Morrissey> deadheron, no :(
[12:45] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, back now
[12:45] <Morrissey> deadheron, it seems like it lost all of it frame structure and everything ..
[12:45] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, I tried creating the new ext3 partitions, but they are named New Partition #1 and #2. How do I rename them /opt and /home?
[12:45] <deadheron> Morrissey: after installing compiz, or enabling it?
[12:46] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, in the list at the bottom are the mount points for those two partitions /opt and /home ?
[12:47] <Morrissey> deadheron, it used to work ... but suddenly when I changed between kwin and compiz a couple of times, border just dissapereaed ... and amarok window allways runs in ful screen
[12:47] <gunspoja> gday everyone
[12:47] <gunspoja> hows the 7.10 release going?
[12:47] <deadheron> Morrissey: have you already restarted X (ctrl+alt+backspace) ?
[12:47] <gunspoja> is it an awesome improvement?
[12:48] <deadheron> gunspoja: yes it is :)
[12:48] <gunspoja> cool, in what areas?
[12:48] <Morrissey> deadheron, yes .. even rebooted ...
[12:48] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, I'm not seeing anything that mentions mount points, but it simply says that the partitions were created on /dev/sda. Both of them.
[12:49] <deadheron> gunspoja: ntfs-reading, power-saving, compiz-fusion, wifi support (WPA and WPA2)
[12:49] <deadheron> Morrissey: you tried: killall kwin && kwin
[12:49] <gunspoja> awesome.  there used to be lots of trouble with wifi
[12:49] <sanskrit> does anyone know how to change default java plugin?  like to change gcj to sun-jre. i have chosen gcj to be installed but it doesn't work :(
[12:50] <Hexxeh> What could the reason for for the sound cutting out on my machine after a while being booted?
[12:50] <deadheron> gunspoja: yup, and with ntfs reading
[12:50] <deadheron> gunspoja: and writing ofc
[12:50] <Morrissey> deadheron, currently using compiz ..
[12:51] <Morrissey> but Ill try
[12:51] <deadheron> Morrissey: it sounds like you are currently not using anything hehe
[12:51] <gunspoja> I don't have any problems reading ntfs anyway
[12:51] <Morrissey> deadheron, all other windows have borders ..
[12:51] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, ok confused....you should have a list with a bunch of columns that say Partition, FileSystem, Mountpoint, Size, Used, Unused, Flags
[12:51] <gunspoja> its marvin! the ParanoidAndroid
[12:51] <deadheron> gunspoja: and writing? did it all work out of the box?
[12:51] <Morrissey> deadheron, its just amarok :S
[12:51] <deadheron> Morrissey: oohh! i didnt know that!
[12:51] <gunspoja> nope :P but very few things ever do in linux
[12:52] <Morrissey> deadheron ;) said so on my first question, but its ok :)
[12:52] <gunspoja> I don't expect things to work straight away, but I expect them to be able to MAKE work
[12:52] <deadheron> Morrissey: yes thats kind of strange hehe
[12:52] <Morrissey> indeed!
[12:52] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, I see every one of those flags except for Mountpoint.
[12:52] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, I'm not sure why that one is missing.
[12:53] <deadheron> gunspija: but now it works out of the box, and thats better :)
[12:53] <deadheron> gunspoja: although there is no ubuntu box :P
[12:53] <Alp`> which filemanager do you use? i hope there are better alternatives than nautilus
[12:53] <LordMorgoth> hey guys, i tried installing 7.10 on my toshiba laptop running on an ATI x300, however when i run ubuntu, the boot screen is always black, and it takes it about 5 min to lunch X, so i see nothing of wat happening. only 1 msg is displayed when loading before the black screen takes place: unable to locate resources. any ideas ??
[12:54] <fruitbatjim> at's the best way to get php and apache up and running on gutsy?
[12:54] <deadheron> gunspoja: all my hardware worked out of the box with ubuntu 7.10 (except for my ATI card, but restricted driver manager is easy hehe)
[12:54] <Alp`> i'd like to have a windows-explorer-like behaviour. xfe is something like that, but maybe there are more alternatives?
[12:54] <gunspoja> wow
[12:54] <jrib> !lamp > fruitbatjim (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:54] <gunspoja> I wonder if my printer will even work
[12:54] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, ah i think that might come after the partition. I think it goes partition with gparted, then select mount points for those partitions afterwards
[12:54] <gunspoja> that'd be something
[12:54] <gunspoja> its impossible to get it working
[12:54] <deadheron> gunspoja: 7.10 gives new plug&play printer support
[12:54] <Alp`> fruitbatjim: try lampp
[12:54] <fruitbatjim> thanks jrib
[12:54] <gunspoja> cool
[12:54] <gunspoja> hmm
[12:55] <deadheron> gunspoja: my EPSON printer worked immediately hehe
[12:55] <gunspoja> although I've heard horror stories of people upgrading from feisty to edgy and everything breaking
[12:55] <fuscht> anyone`s got 5mins for a noob?
[12:55] <gunspoja> so I'm a bit hesitant to upgrade to gutsy
[12:55] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, so I need to push apply first? Then it will ask me for the mount points?
[12:55] <LordMorgoth> any idea ?
[12:55] <gunspoja> fuscht, thats why we're here :)
[12:55] <fuscht> installed 7.10 and get grube error 22 when booting up
[12:55] <pawan> how to use broken filter
[12:55] <deadheron> gunspoja: upgrading from feisty to edgy isnt really smart though hehe better from feisty to gutsy
[12:55] <eNons3nse> it seems that many people are having my same problem with the volume icon displaying mute when it isn't muted.  do you guys know if there is a fix for this?  there are no answers in any of the forum posts i found.
[12:55] <pawan> i am getting error 2 broken softwares to install
[12:55] <deadheron> gunspoja: but i did a clean install.. that worked great
[12:55] <gunspoja> hmm, well what would you suggest?
[12:56] <gunspoja> bah I don't wanna do a clean install
[12:56] <fuscht> ubuntu is on hdb
[12:56] <gunspoja> all my software and settings...gone!
[12:56] <IdleOne> pawan: sudo apt-get -f install
[12:56]  * gunspoja shakes his head
[12:56] <deadheron> gunspoja: then upgrade from feisty :P
[12:56] <gunspoja> yeah
[12:56] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, yeh I think that's how it worked in fiesty, but I don't remember doing it like that in gutsy...maybe I just forgot, that tends to happen :P
[12:56] <gunspoja> hey...i wonder if they will even fix my internet
[12:57] <gunspoja> my internet access has always been very inconsistent on fiesty, possibly due to my modem somehow
[12:57] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, I'll try that then.
[12:57] <SleepingSloth> alright - does anyne know of a pdf password cracker for ubuntu? i have an old pdf that i password protected, but i cant remember the password on it ... :S
[12:57] <deadheron> gunspoja: i would suggest a clean install, its better in all ways :)
[12:57] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, yeh setup your swap, root, opt, home partitoins how you want them, hit apply and mount points should be the next step or 2nd step after
[12:58] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, I'll let you know how it goes.
[12:58] <gunspoja> yeah
[12:58] <Atomic_UE> gluonman, just make sure you got your data, and if anything is wrong on the screens after the partitioning you can always just hit back and repartition it again
[12:58] <gunspoja> hmm
[12:58] <deadheron> gunspoja: 7.04 was the biggest surprise for me: WOW my tv tuner card works out of the box :P
[12:58] <gunspoja> yeah
[12:58] <gunspoja> I wonder what would happen if linux actually did some marketing
[12:58] <Pici> SleepingSloth: pdfcrack, its in the repos, never used it myself.
[12:58] <eNons3nse> in feisty i used Emerald Theme Manager to edit my compiz/beryl themes.  what do you use to do that in gutsy?
[12:58] <gunspoja> linux being ubuntu, i mean
[12:59] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, I just noticed that when I remounted the root / the Mountpoint tab appeared.
[12:59] <Atomic_UE> deadheron, my built in card reader works in gutsy...only thing that didn't work in fiesty
[12:59] <deadheron> gunspoja: in belgium, ubuntu-be does a lot of marketing
[12:59] <SleepingSloth> Pici, thanks - i'm trying it now...
[12:59] <jrib> eNons3nse: you can use emerald as well
[12:59] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, then it disappeared again when I unmounted it.
[12:59] <fuscht> how kann i write grube to hda? it seems to be on hdb and not working therefore (error 22)
[12:59] <gunspoja> really?
[12:59] <gunspoja> like what?
[12:59] <fuscht> from livecd
[12:59] <SleepingSloth> pici, i didnt expect that something like that would be in the repos
[12:59] <deadheron> Atomic_UE: i was talking about my tv tuner card :) not my card reader
[12:59] <jrib> !grub > fuscht (read the private message from ubotu)
[12:59] <eNons3nse> jrib:  i didn't find it in the apps listing.  i'll look again.
[12:59] <SleepingSloth> Pici, guess you live and learn...
[13:00] <fuscht> thx
[13:00] <jrib> !info emerald | eNons3nse
[13:00] <ubotu> enons3nse: emerald: Decorator for compiz-fusion. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3~git20070717-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 198 kB, installed size 956 kB
[13:00] <deadheron> gunspoja: like spreading CD's and being on computer events
[13:00] <jrib> eNons3nse: make sure you have enabled universe
[13:00] <deadheron> gunspoja: we should make some money for a ubuntu advertisement in the new york times :')
[13:00] <pawan> done now
[13:00] <Atomic_UE> deadheron, well i was talking about my card reader not my tuner card
[13:00] <mizzer0ni> anyone know how i can get emerald themes in gutsy, like the ones emerald theme package that was in feisty,
[13:01] <deadheron> Atomic_UE: ok
[13:01] <gunspoja> yeah, thatd kick ass
[13:01] <jrib> mizzer0ni: you can download themes and install them
[13:01] <timbobsteve> Hi all
[13:01] <gunspoja> i mean, look at apple
[13:01] <gunspoja> how much their marketing campaign did
[13:01] <gunspoja> anyway, OT
[13:01] <mizzer0ni> yes jrib i used to use scaled black mod theme from the repos, I download same theme from gnome-look.org and it's different
[13:01] <Atomic_UE> deadheron, i do got this one switch that don't work though on this laptop...no idea what it's for though 'cos it don't work in windows either :P
[13:01] <deadheron> gunspoja: thats something different.. for installing ubuntu, you have to be quite advanced with computers.
[13:01] <Pici> !ot
[13:01] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:02] <gunspoja> true
[13:02] <jrib> mizzer0ni: the author probably updated it
[13:02] <timbobsteve> I need to increase the space on my root partition. I have deleted a spare partition that sits before it on the hdd, but I heard you cannot move the first sector of ext3 partitions. Is that true? I do have access to Partition Magic 8, if that helps. Thanks
[13:02] <deadheron> Atomic_UE: hehe :P
[13:02] <gunspoja> but deadheron, I've heard stories of people who haven't known much about computers until they tried to install linux and suddenly got turkey-slapped with technological jargon, loved every bit of it and eventually became very experienced
[13:03] <deadheron> gunspoja: but everyone can buy an ubuntu computer from dell
[13:03] <VilasBoas> hy does anyone knows how to install widgets on ubuntu7.10??
[13:03] <gunspoja> whereas windows hides all the technical stuff away from you, so even if you want to learn its hard to
[13:03] <deadheron> gunspoja: though i think getting some OEM manufactors is better for marketing
[13:03] <gunspoja> yeah
[13:04] <gunspoja> definitely
[13:04] <mizzer0ni> jrib, the one at gnome-look is old, actually its a cgwd theme i just renamed to .emerald, idk i keep looking, thnx
[13:04] <gunspoja> rather than making people download an ISO
[13:04] <gunspoja> especially if the OEM stuff is cheaper than windows PCs
[13:04] <deadheron> gunspoja: i hear the voices: "whats an ISO"
[13:04] <gunspoja> yep
[13:04] <jrib> mizzer0ni: tried http://themes.beryl-project.org/ ?
[13:04] <gunspoja> "how do I download files"
[13:04] <Atomic_UE> gunspoja, i wouldn't say windows hides all the jargon....it hides a good deal of it but not all. I have people at work who can't even use windows or grasp very basic concepts
[13:04] <eNons3nse> oh.  also.  gutsy takes like 10x longer to boot than feisty did.  it's kinda lame.
[13:04] <dgjones> !offtopic
[13:04] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[13:04] <gunspoja> well, you know what i mean, Atomic_UE
[13:04] <mizzer0ni> no jrib than ks i will look
[13:05] <nalpha> gunspoja the future of IT will be so easier to use.. but I'm confuse are know to computer works structure still needed
[13:05] <gunspoja> windows doesn't hit you in the face with it like linux does :P
[13:05] <deadheron> lol in ubuntu you can use GUI's if you want, for most common users. and you can use terminal applications for if you want more choices
[13:05] <gunspoja> nalpha, possibly, but making things easier to use also encourages laziness and ignorance
[13:05] <jrib> nalpha, Atomic_UE, gunspoja: please move the windows discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:05] <mizzer0ni> * Cannot join #ubuntu-offtopic (You are banned).
[13:05] <mizzer0ni> bah
[13:05] <gunspoja> yeah ok
[13:05] <Atomic_UE> gunspoja, deadheron, lol i think people are hinting at taking the talks to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:05] <eNons3nse> so has anyone heard anything about this volume icon problem?  where it thinks it's muted?
[13:06] <timbobsteve> ext3 resizing anyone?
[13:06] <deadheron> good idea, lets go
[13:06] <Vov4ik> Please help me with CS 1.6 Server on linux x((( He wont work normal =(
[13:06] <mizzer0ni> eNons3nse, are u sure its actually saying ur volume is muted or ur mic is muted
[13:07] <gluonman> Atomic_UE, it's not letting me apply the partition settings. Something's wrong with shrinking the root /. It says there could be an error in the filesystem.
[13:07] <Atomic_UE> eNons3nse, gutsy for me boots actually a bit quicker, and I don't have a problem with my volume applet being muted, but if i put the volum to the lowest and it shows it's muted, i can still hear it, unless i specifically select the  mute option
[13:07] <Morrissey> I installed gtkpod-aac, but when I try to add a mp4 file it says: m4a/m4p/m4b not supported without the mp4v2 library. You must compile the gtkpod source together with the mp4v2 library.
[13:08] <eNons3nse> mizzer0ni: no.  there is no problem with my sound.  when i use my mouse to adjust my volume the icon at the top of the screen keeps flashing mute even though it's not muted.
[13:08] <keegan> hi i have a sony vaio fz140e , my display driver gets recognised but is not working to its full potential , as in i cannot use the visual effects option for advanced effects . Restricted drivers says i dont need any drivers. How can i improve my situation
[13:08] <Atomic_UE> eNons3nse, for the thing being muted try running 'alsamixer' and making sure certain channels aren't muted