[00:09] <amrlima> hi, is there a way to add a share widget to a scope? Can the "actions" preview widget be used like that?
[05:18] <zsombi> t1mp: karni: I have the feeling the dialog is not shown due to its parent not being set/visible. Remember, the root Item is not yet known by the FW when the topmost component is completed. The QGuiApplication::topLevelWindows() will get the QQuickView listed only after the actual root item's onCompleted is emitted. The timer makes sure the call is after that, so the rootItem is detected and teh dialig sizing-positioning is doable
[07:18] <dholbach> good morning
[07:18] <akiva-thinkpad> dholbach, morning
[07:20] <dholbach> hey akiva-thinkpad
[07:34] <justCarakas> heey akiva-thinkpad :)
[07:36] <akiva-thinkpad> justCarakas, oh hey hows it going?
[07:36] <akiva-thinkpad> how goes the html5?
[07:36] <akiva-thinkpad> justCarakas, are you going to attend the ubuntu online summit?
[07:38] <justCarakas> I'm working on a bible app with angular
[07:38] <karni> zsombi: t1mp: perhaps it would make sense to have a signal that lets developers know when the UI is actually ready? otherwise, we'll have dozens of timers around the code, and that's really ugly.
[07:38] <justCarakas> and my app BE Mobile works again :)
[07:39] <akiva-thinkpad> justCarakas, ah thats cool !
[07:39] <justCarakas> I'm going to try to follow as much as I can from work, but I can't even follow the Q&A's anymore because then Im on my way home because of daylight saving
[07:39] <akiva-thinkpad> lol yah tell me about it
[07:39] <akiva-thinkpad> the gang here starts work at 12am my time, and finishes 8 am my time
[07:40] <akiva-thinkpad> so if I am actually here, that is indicative of a very upside down sleep schedule :P
[07:41] <akiva-thinkpad> mmmm looks like I got a refresh button for autopilot :)
[07:41] <justCarakas> akiva-thinkpad: poor you
[07:42] <justCarakas> akiva-thinkpad: I was just wondering if I would scrap the new testament from showing could I dubble launch the app as Tanakh app ?
[07:43] <akiva-thinkpad> heh now your speaking my language ~
[07:43] <akiva-thinkpad> I wish more translations were public domain, as I don't think artscroll is
[07:54] <justCarakas> too bad
[07:54] <justCarakas> I wouldn't mind adding a hebrew translation
[07:54] <akiva-thinkpad> Tell me bout it~
[08:07] <t1mp> zsombi: when we get the functionality that tracks changes in the parent maybe we can use that to show the popover when the root item is detected?
[08:18] <justCarakas> anyway akiva-thinkpad if you would find one I would include it :)
[08:18] <akiva-thinkpad> justCarakas, will keep my open
[08:33] <zsombi> t1mp: the problem is that we know that the topmost items is the root item only after we get the QQuickWindow. And thereá sno signal which would tell us that now it is set
[08:34] <zsombi> karni: ^ also to you
[08:34] <zsombi> karni: so the problem si we don't know when that is happening :/
[08:34] <zsombi> is
[08:35] <karni> zsombi: then we emit a signal down the tree once we get the qquickwindow? a new signal.
[08:35] <zsombi> karni: we don't know when we do get that, there's noone telling us, QGuiApplication has no signal which would say
[08:37] <karni> Can't believe what I'm hearing. I'm not saying you're right, but I consider these things so basic I'm puzzled we can't do such things propely.
[08:37] <karni> lol, I'm not saying you're wrong ;)
[08:37] <karni> I totally flipped that hehe
[08:38] <zsombi> karni: this is not teh first time this popped up, believe me
[08:38] <karni> oh I do believe you
[10:43] <davidcalle> bzoltan_, zbenjamin, hey, how can you update an existing qmlproject to a newer template?
[10:43] <bzoltan_> davidcalle:  there is no automatic migration tool... you do it manually
[11:06] <nik90> bzoltan_: with the release of ubuntu 15.04, can we expect a 15.04 framework anytime soon with the new APIs?
[11:07] <bzoltan_> nik90:  the frameworks are available both from the SDK and on the device
[11:07] <bzoltan_> nik90:  and to be honest, the frameworks do not really define the APIs .. they are what is in the release
[11:10] <nik90> bzoltan_: true, but without the 15.04-framework, developers cant get to use U.C 1.2?
[11:10] <nik90> well glad to see it finally available
[11:11] <bzoltan_> nik90:  the framework is there for developers, all you need is a 15.04 device
[11:12] <nik90> bzoltan_: yeah now it is..previously there wasn't a 15.04 framework on a 15.04 device. well atleast I remember it complaining about such a framework not recognized
[11:12] <bzoltan_> nik90:  Yeps, since then it was fixed
[11:14] <davidcalle> bzoltan_, so manually... ok, but how?
[11:15] <bzoltan_> davidcalle: I would make an empty app from the new template and copy to it the qml files and whatever it needs from the old project. I do not think it takes more than that.
[11:16] <bzoltan_> davidcalle:  obviously you will nedd to make the tests for example on your own. But there is no way to magically create tests for an app :)
[11:16] <popey> nik90: confirmed, my vivid device has ubuntu-sdk-15.04* frameworks
[11:17] <nik90> popey: yup, I just checked as well. Time to get the online docs updated to show all the new stuff finally so that app devs can prepare their apps to use the cool new stuff that landed in the sdk.
[11:18]  * nik90 gets back to his blog post about the sdk
[11:19] <davidcalle> bzoltan_, no of course, I was just looking for the right steps to migrate. So it would be somethin like : 1) rename you app folder to something else 2) create an app with the same name/appid/whatever with the new template 3) move your qml and .bzr files
[11:59] <zbenjamin> davidcalle: probably it would be enough to move the Makefile over
[12:22] <karni> It seems QML Label is using font.weight: Font.Light instead of Font.Normal as default (although I'm not seeing that in the source). can someone confirm that? I would also add that font weight is not exposed via property - and if that's by design (for UI consistency), then we're trading that over flexibility, forcing the developer to use Label with font.pixelSize set manually with FontUtils.sizeToPixels(fontSize)
[12:24] <nik90> karni: well since QML Label is derived from Qt Text, you should be able to use all the properties that Qt Text offers as well, no?
[12:25] <karni> oh, it's actually not *wrapped* in something else, that large doc comment was confusing. nik90, true ;))
[12:26] <karni> anyhow, the question about the default holds. light is not very easy/convenient to read.
[12:26] <nik90> karni: I think this was a design change a couple of months..cant remember exactly when
[12:28] <nik90> I haven't paid too much attention to it because it doesn't affect the readability for me atleast
[12:28] <karni> nik90: I admitted that user was right in our case https://bugs.launchpad.net/libqtelegram/+bug/1437892
[12:28] <nik90> it seems to be a trend lately going for Font.Light
[12:28] <karni> Font.Normal is so much better
[12:28] <karni> (in this particular case, at least)
[12:58] <davidcalle> zbenjamin, I've tried to move a newer makefile (on several projects) and it consistently fails to build after that.
[13:03] <m-b-o> popey o/ Can't connect...
[13:04] <m-b-o> popey or no hangout now?
[13:09] <popey> m-b-o: can we do irc?
[13:09] <popey> #ubuntu-touch-meeting ?
[13:32] <nik90> aquarius: you about?
[13:32] <aquarius> I am
[13:33] <nik90> aquarius: one sec, let me share a link
[14:32] <SturmFlut> van QGeoSatelliteInfoSource be used on the phone? Is the implementation connected to the actual GPS backend?
[14:33] <SturmFlut> s/van/can/
[14:45] <parnstermia> Hi, i want to learn how to do a graphical interface for my c++ application, I'd like to use it in linux enviroments, what language, or what should i look in order to do it?
[14:45] <parnstermia> i've never done anything like this before
[15:36] <vitimiti> I am working on this app: https://launchpad.net/youtube-dl-ubutouch | I need to ship the youtubedl binary I have in the backend folder in the click package and know where it is installed exactly (same place as qmldir) so as to be able to execute it with a QProcess. Can somebody help me with that?
[16:04] <popey> vitimiti: nice
[16:04] <popey> vitimiti: i think some other apps do this with a small c++ plugin
[16:05] <vitimiti> popey, thanks, but I can't properly create the package. I was expecting being able to set a dependency for youtube-dl, but click packages don't let me do that
[16:05] <popey> correct
[16:05] <popey> you need to ship your binary inside the click
[16:07] <vitimiti> This is my problem, I don't seem to be able to handle that properly, it's already inside the project, and I don't know where I should install it in the system or how to do so, either
[16:11] <popey> i dont know, maybe ask on the G+ community
[16:12] <vitimiti> I'll try that, popey, thanks
[16:35] <vitimiti> popey, can you tell me where this G+ community is? I can't find it, I don't use G+ that much
[16:40] <DanChapman> vitimiti: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/111350780270925540549
[16:40] <vitimiti> Thank you, DanChapman
[16:40] <DanChapman> np
[17:06] <renatu> charles, what is the state of silo 8?
[17:23] <vitimiti> I want to install an i386 emulator to try my app, I see there are many versions for it, like devel, proposed, etc. What should I should if I'm using a qmake project?
[17:24] <nik90> devel-proposed
[17:24] <nik90> vitimiti: ^^
[17:24] <vitimiti> nik90, thank you
[17:50] <rickspencer3> anyone know what happened to the devices tab in 15.04?
[17:50] <rickspencer3> in QtCreator, I mean
[17:51] <DanChapman> rickspencer3: i still have it on the left tab bar
[17:51] <rickspencer3> thanks DanChapman
[17:52] <rickspencer3> the PPA was probably uninstalled when I upgraded or something
[21:44] <juzzlin> Is there anyone who would be able to fix this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator-plugin-cmake/+bug/1299441
[21:46] <josharenson> My application is reporting NetworkingStatus.online as always true. Any reason that might be the case?
[21:49] <josharenson> Seems to work on mobile. There are several bad bugs that I only see on desktop though.
[23:10] <vitimiti> The i386 devel proposed emulator is never telling the SDK if it's connected or not or if it has the developer mode enabled or not. Is this a known issue or is it that I have to wait even more? I've been waiting several hours already


[14:10] <georgelappies> hi all
[14:11] <zerwas> Hi georgelappies
[14:14] <georgelappies> been running ubuntu gnome 14.04 for about three weeks now, and it is awesome
[14:15] <georgelappies> what do you guys use for a media player? currently I am using clementine
[14:36] <millhouse513> I've used banshee mostly
[14:36] <millhouse513> I used another one but I forgot the name off the top of my head


[00:45] <laowai> elky: hi
[00:46] <laowai> elky: i need help
[00:48] <laowai> elky: retard
[01:02] <elky> he certainly does.
[02:21] <elky> oh noes. malv switched to centos and came to tell us. such a huge loss
[03:23] <bazhang> dax, you around
[03:23] <dax> bazhang: hi
[03:23] <bazhang> perhaps I should ask this in #freenode
[03:23] <bazhang> about eir powers
[03:24] <dax> I'll PM, #freenode's ever so slightly on fire right now
[03:24] <bazhang> ok
[03:28] <Unit193> Just some lovely chap is trying to join, and seems to be having some sort of connection issues.  I see the network is helping him sort it out, that's nice of you folks!
[10:39] <Dreaman> remove my bann
[10:40] <Dreaman> not corect
[10:40] <Dreaman> old user
[10:40] <Dreaman> ald ubuntu member
[10:40] <Dreaman> old
[10:46] <ikonia> Dreaman: hello there
[10:46] <Dreaman> :)
[10:47] <Dreaman> not only remove bann add me one east european
[10:47] <ikonia> I'd rather you stayed out of ubuntu, you've been asked multiple times how to behave/interact with people and you still continue to try to evade and send rude and problem creating private messages to user
[10:47] <Dreaman> :)
[10:48] <Dreaman> yoi ar jocke mashine
[10:48] <Dreaman> you
[10:48] <ikonia> ok, I think we will leave it there,
[10:48] <Dreaman> why problem with my join in channel ego
[10:49] <Dreaman> or
[10:49] <ikonia> I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are saying
[10:49] <Dreaman> ok
[10:49] <Dreaman> biggest ego in you
[10:50] <ikonia> I assure you it's not, as I've said I'd be happy to remove the ban for you multiple times, you just needed to stop trying to evade and stop sending people private messages with insults and provoking operators in the channel
[10:50] <ikonia> you've been unable to do this, and this is why the ban has stayed
[10:50] <Dreaman> selfish
[10:51] <Dreaman> реможе
[10:51] <Dreaman> remove
[10:51] <ikonia> being rude in bulgarian won't help
[10:51] <Dreaman> :)
[10:51] <ikonia> Dreaman: I've told you I would remove it if you followed the instructions I gave you
[10:51] <ikonia> and you said "no"
[10:51] <ikonia> you said "I'd will stop using ubuntu instead"
[10:51] <ikonia> I've asked you multiple times and offered to remove the ban
[10:51] <ikonia> so this is your problem and your behaviour
[10:52] <Dreaman> why bann
[10:52] <Dreaman> not +q
[10:52] <ikonia> because we didn't want you in the channel
[10:52] <Dreaman> somple
[10:52] <ikonia> as you also send private messages
[10:52] <Dreaman> push me i push you
[10:52] <ikonia> no-one has pushed you
[10:52] <ikonia> the simple solution is for you to behave
[10:53] <Dreaman> ikonia  i in the channel
[10:53] <ikonia> but you have refused to do this, and shown you cannot
[10:53] <ikonia> so I see little point in disucussing it any more
[10:53] <Dreaman> this is not problem
[10:53] <ikonia> great, we can't see you, so you're obviously not being a problem
[10:53] <ikonia> but this is the problem
[10:53] <ikonia> you are still trying to evade bans
[10:53] <ikonia> you cannot follow instructions and comply with the rules of the channel, so lets end this discussion
[10:54] <Dreaman> support channel 1 hour thel some user how to install skype
[10:54] <Dreaman> phahahah
[10:54] <ikonia> sorry, don't know what that means
[10:54] <Dreaman> not goood support
[10:55] <ikonia> who ?
 could you please stop harassing people
 and stay out of #ubuntu forever
[10:56] <Dreaman> :)
[10:56] <ikonia> yes, and ?
[10:56] <Dreaman> nothing
[10:56] <ikonia> ok, so we ae done here
[10:56] <Dreaman> i stay
[10:56] <ikonia> please /part the channel
[10:58] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu-ops dreaman time wasting, no desire to resolve/fix anything - just trolling
[11:02] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu extreemagression dreaman evading the ban and being a problem while pm'ing me abuse using the dreaman account
[12:00] <Dreaman> interesting
[12:01] <Dreaman> why not east europeans add in channel
[12:02] <Dreaman> not add
[12:09] <ikonia> Dreaman: as I told you when you where pm'ing me
[12:10] <ikonia> there are many eastern europeans in the channel
[12:10] <ikonia> and as I told you - I suggest you try to use google translate as your questions to not make sense with your current English ability
[12:11] <ikonia> Dreaman: there is nothing more to discuss, as again you refused to comply with the rules of the channel and chose to be rude and evade the ban
[12:11] <Dreaman> oper
[12:11] <Dreaman> east european
[12:11] <Dreaman> no
[12:11] <ikonia> Dreaman: I told you there are people from eastern Europe
[12:12] <Dreaman> ok
[12:12] <ikonia> and that has nothing to do with your inability to behave/follow the rules
[12:12] <ikonia> please /part this channel as you have said and shown you have no desire to follow the rules of the channel
[12:12] <Dreaman> i not
[12:15] <CrackerJack> ikonia
[12:15] <CrackerJack> vnimavai
[12:15] <CrackerJack> v kartinakta
[12:15] <CrackerJack> kartinkata lame
[13:04] <ikonia> hggdh: his ident changes with his many nicks
[13:04] <hggdh> ikonia: yes, I know (and read the backlog :-)
[13:04] <ikonia> just checking you didn't think that was a "fix" for him
[13:07] <hggdh> unfortunately, I am aware it will be not.  Could anyone tell me what I did wrong and how to get unbanned? #ubuntu has been an invaluable help to me so far, it would suck not having access to it anymore! Thanks
[14:16] <ikonia> hfp: it looks like you got caught up, there was a troll announcing all his bots by saying my nickname
[14:17] <ikonia> why did you say "ikonia" ?
[14:18] <hfp> I saw someone say it, and nothing happened so I thought it might be a command to have a bot /msg you some help or something... Didn't mean anything, was just curious and had no idea it would autoban me :(
[14:18] <ikonia> it didn't autoban you
[14:18] <ikonia> I did it, because there was someone announcing his bots by saying hte name ikonia
[14:18] <ikonia> give me a moment and I'll unban you
[14:18] <hfp> Thanks
[14:18] <ikonia> done
[14:18] <ikonia> if you /join #ubuntu now it should work
[14:19] <hfp> Yep, thanks!
[14:19] <ikonia> excellent
[14:20] <ikonia> gr33n7007h: what's up ?
[14:20] <gr33n7007h> nothing
[14:21] <ikonia> ok, well, if you don't need anything we ask that people don't idle in this channel please
[14:58] <nbro> Is it possible to know why Mr. or Ms. ikonia banned me from the #ubuntu channel?!
[15:04] <ikonia> nbro: why did you randomly say "ikonia"
[15:05] <nbro> ikonia: are you kidding?