[14:06] <mikebeecham> dreambox: no laptop P4 PC
[14:06] <fbn> ZykoticK9, ah thanks I already thought so. Just too bad that there is no information to the user
[14:06] <hit> thx
[14:06] <jayce> Has anybody installed karmic with multiple hard drives installed in their computer yet????
[14:06] <IHS_Volunteer> jonte, I don't know what to tell you, then. I might grab a windows box and try wubi later, but right now, I can't really help, no experience with that particular setup.
[14:06] <ActionParsnip1> mikebeecham: ok can you run: sudo dpkg --configure -a sudo apt-get -f install        if you get any error outputs please use pastebin
[14:06] <cwill747> jayce: yes.
[14:06] <Psinetic> if someone is working on my problem please let me know so that I will know there's someone working on it :(
[14:06] <jonte> IHS_Volunteer: okay  :(
[14:06] <bazhang> fakeer, I just installed fresh with the alternate, what questions/issues did you have
[14:06] <jayce> cwill747 - did you have any issues? Im having a helluva headache with karmic an dmultiple drives....
[14:07] <mikebeecham> ActionParsnip1: thanks man...seems to be good now :D
[14:07] <dkalaluhi> Has anybody had any success installing the nVidia 190. driver for a Quadro NVS 280 SD?
[14:07] <cwill747> jayce: they pretty much all worked for me, but all my other drives are NTFS. So i've been using NTFS-3g. what's your problem?
[14:07] <ActionParsnip1> mikebeecham: cool
[14:07] <mattgyver> blackxored: this is what i get for not wanting to do a clean install ;)
[14:07] <fakeer> bazhang: thanks..u r here too :P ..... i couldn't find the graphic interface i used to find earlier with LiveCD...
[14:08] <fakeer> bazhang: so scared I quit..and began searchign for tutorials :(
[14:08] <blackxored> mattgyver, my karmic is through upgrades as well, I'll probably do a clean-install but only for x86_64 migration, it's working fine
[14:08] <AL__> I am looking for support for installing karmic 64-bit on a hard drive with multiple Os.  Is this the correct place to ask?
[14:08] <jayce> cwill747 - I have 4 drives in my system. 1 main, 1 backup (for me) and 2 samba drives. the other 3 drives are mounted by fstab, I always take care of that.
[14:08] <bazhang> fakeer, right, it is ncurses based, you need to use the tab key to get through the various choices, along with the arrow keys
[14:08] <conb123> Hey is there anything for grub that can load usb sticks? Because i have a bootable ubuntu usb stick here but my bios will not boot usb for some unknown reason
[14:08] <zer0her0> sorry, stepped away from the keyboard for a minute, i see no highlights i take it no one used the screen thing in 9.04
[14:08] <ziyou> 怎么没人说话啊？
[14:08] <jayce> cwill747 - I installed karmic and it keeps thinking my two samba drives are raid - and they are not. my motherboard doesnt even support raid.
[14:09] <mattgyver> blackxored: yeah im just going through checking out my crash reports, i think some of these crashing or non-working apps might not have been installed from the repos, i might have done it manually at the time, i cant remember.
[14:09] <bazhang> ziyou, english here, #ubuntu-cn for Chinese
[14:09] <cwill747> !msg ubottu cn
[14:09] <tMx> this is a song la la la la elmo song
[14:09] <hit> ziyou ,Äã»áËµººÓï°¡
[14:09] <bazhang> tMx, ??
[14:09] <jayce> cwill747 - as if that wasnt enough of a headache, if I plug just 1 samba drive in, the raid thing is gone. So I thought - awesome, mount it by fstab, reboot, power on last drive, maybe itll be fine. But when I mount by fstab and try to open the drives up, I get an error about it failing and only root can do it.
[14:09] <blackxored> mattgyver, fine
[14:09] <zer0her0> what's the ubuntu chat/offtopic chan?
[14:09] <DJones> !ot | zer0her0
[14:09] <fakeer> bazhang: alright, but what to do when i reach partitioner? and language etc?? are you sure i won't have much problem..??
[14:09] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic zer0her0
[14:09] <cwill747> !cn | ziyou
[14:09] <jayce> cwill747 - Ive used fstab many times, so its frustrating to be at a place now where my 3 backup drives arent accessible cause karmic isnt playing nice.
[14:10] <zer0her0> DJones: thanks :)
[14:10] <ZykoticK9> cwill747, it's "/msg ubottu" not "!msg ubottu"
[14:10] <DMK> Has anybody had any success installing the nVidia 190. driver for a Quadro NVS 280 SD? on karmic..guess I should clarify
[14:10] <DMK> and that would be rev c1
[14:10] <cwill747> ZykoticK9: yeah. i know. can't i hit a wrong key? haha
[14:10] <fakeer> bazhang: i am fine with text based installers too but i was afraid if i have type partition locations or commands as i am not comfortable with it.... though i am fine with TAB
[14:10] <ActionParsnip1> DMK: i have
[14:10] <bazhang> fakeer, I'm not sure, but its not terribly difficult; is this on a different computer from the one you are currently irc'ing on
[14:11] <ActionParsnip1> DMK: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/08/how-to-install-nvidia-190xx-drivers-in.html I use this repo
[14:11] <AL__> Hello,
[14:11] <AL__> I currently have 64-Bit machine that has a 250 GB SATA drive that has three primary partitions and a extended partition. The three primary partitions sda1, sda2, and sda3 are 20.5 GB each and have jaunty 64-bit, hardy 32-bit, and windows 7 RC Os installed previously on them, respectively. The extended partition (sda4) is about 171.7 GB and is divided uniformly and consecutively as follows:
[14:11] <AL__> sda9 4GB Linux swap
[14:11] <AL__> sda10 12GB NTFS --used
[14:11] <FloodBot2> AL__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:11] <AL__> sda11 25GB ext3 ---> empty partition I wish to place the new Karmic 64-bit OS
[14:11] <AL__> sda5 33.2GB NTFS --used
[14:11] <klaas2> why does ubuntu netbook remix require more RAM than standard Ubuntu?
[14:11] <AL__> sda6 34.5 GB NTFS --used
[14:11] <AL__> sda7 34.7 GB NTFS -- used
[14:11] <cwill747> jayce: yeah, I think in general samba drives are headaches. the samba conf file was prob the biggest project i've ever done. I cant think of what's up with yours
[14:11] <AL__> sda8 28.3 GB NTFS --used
[14:11] <AL__> My question is if I try to install the Karmic 64-Bit OS on the above empty partition, will the new partitioner install a grub boot menu that will recognize all the other operating systems? If not, what is the best way to install it to allow all of them to be recognized at boot menu? How can I use the manual partitioner so that all of them are recognized.
[14:11] <bazhang> AL__, use pastebin
[14:11] <AL__> I tried to install Karmic in the above manner. When I got to the partitioning screen, it showed all of the other other systems and had the radio button filled ["install side by side"] but did not instruct me on where to install the OS. When I pressed the option to go to the next screen, I received the message "Everything will be deleted."
[14:11] <ActionParsnip1> klaas2: tweak the oS
[14:11] <DJones> !paste | AL__
[14:11] <AL__> Thanks,
[14:11] <fakeer> bazhang: i am irc'ing from Vista and it's on smae computer...in another partion..9.04 installed..but messed up..so want a fresh install..
[14:11] <xukun> Hi everybody. I just installed ubuntu karmic 64 bit on usb, installation went ok but after reboot it says "grub error 15' any idea why or how to fix this?
[14:11] <jayce> cwill747 - it has nothing to do with samba, though. Im fine with samba. These drives are mounted within ubuntu by fstab and it cant even do that in karmic.
[14:12] <LiteHedded> where do I go to adjust the brightness of my display?
[14:12] <beachdaze> if I add something similar to fstab "//<IP of host>/path/to/share /home/<user>/folder cifs auto 0 0" it gets mounted as root?  Need it mounted as user
[14:12] <klaas2> ActionParsnip1: 512 RAM is listed as minimum on the canonical.com netbook section, while karmic only requires 256
[14:12] <bazhang> fakeer, will you be doing manual partitioning, or guided
[14:12] <jari> lista
[14:12] <syk> xukun, does it hang there?
[14:12] <DMK> ActionParsnip1 thx
[14:12] <jonte> when I dual boot ubuntu in windows,grub came up and it says sh: grub_ what shall I write ?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip1> klaas2: its only recommended
[14:13] <DMK> will try this..and see what happens
[14:13] <ActionParsnip1> klaas2: it is interesting though
[14:13] <cwill747> jayce: i know, i was just complaining. i don't know what the problem could be.
[14:13] <xukun> syk, yes it does
[14:14] <fakeer> bazhang: manual...as i'll put 9.10 in the same partition where 9.04 is right now..no other change...so, i guess partitioning is already done
[14:14] <MK13> cwill747, any idea how to disable the login prompt sound
[14:14] <klaas2> ActionParsnip1: the site says "minimum hardware requirements" = 512 RAM, is that incorrect?
[14:14] <klaas2> MK13: system -> preferences -> sound
[14:14] <MarcoPau> hello guys, I just dist-upgraded to karmic and wireless is not working any more. wlan0 is up but not associated with essid, thou it's properly set in /etc/network/interfaces and seen by iwlist scan
[14:14] <ActionParsnip1> klaas2: ive not use NBR personally, i'd just use a lighter DE
[14:14] <bazhang> fakeer, will you be making a separate /home partition and are you familiar with the other partitions you need to set up
[14:14] <gburton> hi
[14:14] <MK13> klaa2, i mean the sound when the login screen is ready
[14:15] <[TK]D-Fender> Hello all.  I'm new to the thought of 64 bit system really, and was wondering what the impact would be of running 62 vs 32 on something like a Core2Duo w/ only 2gig ram.  I wouldn't need the 64 bit for RAM requirements... it there any reason to go 64 just yet?  Last I heard there wre still a alrger volume of software that wasn't built to compile for it yet...
[14:15] <ActionParsnip1> xukun: i'd suggest reinstalling grub
[14:15] <gburton> im trying to make a copy of a 12gb file (a virtualbox .vdi file) and basically everything grinds to a halt while this is being done... is there a way to copy a huge file slowly, like throttling?
[14:15] <AL__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/305087/
[14:15] <apps> Help plz. I went to system>>users and groups and change my account. Now i dont know the root password. BUT i didnt specify it in the beginning so how do i get it back??
[14:15] <gburton> im using cp oldfile nefilename currently
[14:15] <jonte> shall i install grub when i am dual boot
[14:16] <patdk-lap> [TK]D-Fender, I would only go 64bit if you plan to upgrade to or past 4g ram, or use harddrives >2tb
[14:16] <klaas2> MK13: system -> administration -> login?
[14:16] <gburton> apps: it would be the first user you created (why are added to sudoers)
[14:16] <MK13> klaas2, has no options for sound :(
[14:16] <Younder> why do my mpeg's not play?
[14:16] <klaas2> ActionParsnip1: I guess ill have to try it and see how bad it is ;). thanks for your help
[14:16] <cwill747> MK13: yeah, that's where it used to be. i'm looking around again
[14:16] <n8tuser> gburton-> thats is common, your bus can only accomodate so much, plus your hd controller may only be one controller
[14:16] <fakeer> bazhang: no i always put entire ubuntu on one partition (on disk it's just after Vista (0) i.e. on (1) ) and everytihg /home etc are inside that partition..atleast i don't create anything ever myself..got 2GB ram so no swap too..though i put it later from inside Ubuntu wehre ever want...
[14:16] <da65> just installed 9.10, thanks, not bad :)
[14:16] <MK13> cwill747, yea i had it done on 9.04 but it vanished :O
[14:17] <gburton> n8tuser: right, but surely you can throttle the copy?
[14:17] <jayce> QUESTION - Anybody have Karmic installed with drives auto-mounting in fstab with any issues?
[14:17] <apps> true but i dont know the root password. i didnt make one.
[14:17] <da65> emapthy is a bit of a pidgin rip off though lol
[14:17] <bazhang> fakeer, how big a partition overall
[14:17] <ergy> Younder : ubuntu-restricted-extras was installed?
[14:17] <MarcoPau> I even tried iwconfig wlan0 essid "NETGEAR" manually but that doesn't have any effect. module is loaded and everything seems ok, but essid is not associated...
[14:17] <klaas2> MK13: In that case i dont know, i'm not on ubuntu no so I cant check. Good luck with finding the solution!
[14:17] <gburton> apps: there isnt one, its the password to your first account. unless thats what you forgot.
[14:17] <n8tuser> gburton-> i doubt it, perhaps some tricks with hdparm, but i would not do it for just that single copy
[14:17] <fakeer> bazhang: it's  a 35 GB
[14:17] <apps> nope i tried it but i says authentication failure
[14:17] <fakeer> partition
[14:18] <[TK]D-Fender> patdk-lap: OK, this may be an issue for servers for me before too long.. thanks for the heads up
[14:18] <Younder> Ok installing 9.10
[14:18] <gburton> n8tuser: i dont want to discuss the particulars but "other oses" are capable of multitasking hdd access...
[14:18] <bazhang> fakeer, ok. good idea to create swap though
[14:18] <blue-pearl> apps: by default u dont make a root password in ubuntu... u use sudo command
[14:18] <da65> ooo, restricted drivers available, nice
[14:18] <patdk-lap> [TK]D-Fender, I run x64 on all my of systems, since 2 years ago
[14:19] <l3> Hi all: ubuntu 9.10 upgrade broke my grub bootloader - can i get some advice on how to fix my bootloader?
[14:19] <da65> does skype run on 64 now?
[14:19] <Younder> 45 minutes on my system
[14:19] <apps> but its asking for "password for root" and when i put in my normal password it says authentication failure
[14:19] <n8tuser> gburton-> you common denominator is your bus to the controller and the controllers ability to do dma
[14:19] <jbicha> why does help.ubuntu.com not have the help pages for Karmic yet?
[14:19] <MK13> klaas2, no problem and thanks for the help
[14:19] <ActionParsnip1> jbicha: because its super new
[14:19] <snellcode> da65: yes, most stuff runs on 64, and also 32 can usually run on 64
[14:19] <[TK]D-Fender> patdk-lap: Will keep this in mind... thanks again.
[14:19] <fakeer> bazhang: yeah right..but never done it .. and i always do it after installing ubuntu..isn't that good..because at the time of installation i may have to create another partition for that which i don't want to do
[14:19] <da65> plus, who needs help?  Works perfect :)
[14:20] <cwill747> MK13: all i can find is that you can't do it.
[14:20] <Kartagis> !grub | l3
[14:20] <gburton> n8tuser: so what are "other oses" doing that linux is not?
[14:20] <san2345> how to create lan conection in u
[14:20] <cwill747> MK13: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/445747
[14:20] <jayce> QUESTION - Anybody have Karmic installed with drives auto-mounting in fstab with any issues?
[14:20] <tompaw> Hello.
[14:20] <tompaw> Is this a good place to ask psubuntu questions?
[14:20] <fakeer> bazhang: so..what do you say?? now u know what i want and know...shall i start ?? or i should rather download LiveCD .. i have a 10kbps download speed... :(
[14:20] <beachdaze> jayce, having some issues yes
[14:20] <ActionParsnip1> san2345: connect LAN cable, DHCP will complete and give you a connection, job done
[14:20] <n8tuser> gburton-> you are not paying attention much to what i said, at low level, it doesnt really matter if the common denominator is your bus limitations and dma capabilities
[14:20] <jayce> beachdaze - your drives wont auto mount with fstab? Do you get errors?
[14:21] <san2345> how to set static ip adress?
[14:21] <cwill747> MK13: you can remove all ubuntu sounds
[14:21] <san2345> for lan
[14:21] <da65> during installed hated the windows splash background copy lol
[14:21] <MK13> cwill747, how to i disable all the sounds?
[14:21] <cwill747> MK13: if you just don't want them. sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-sounds
[14:21] <da65> pull speaker cables out
[14:21] <n8tuser> san2345-> use of ifconfig or ip  command
[14:21] <PaperBug> hi can someone please help me?  I dont know how to run ISPmanager.  I installed it based on my vps instructions.
[14:21] <vubuntor9930> 9.10 Karmic have someproblem
[14:21] <beachdaze> jayce, everything (remote)  mounted as root, no user access, also get a messge on boot that error w/fstab
[14:22] <bazhang> fakeer, it is really intuitive; sounds with your minimal partitioning that it wont be much of an issue--be sure to back up all important data (of course) beforehand though
[14:22] <MK13> cwill747, ouch not willing to do that :(
[14:22] <jayce> beachdaze - Im trying to mount 3 backup drives in fstab. None of th em work. Its so frustrating its unreal since it worked since the beginning of time with other ubuntu versions.
[14:22] <cwill747> MK13: haha i thought so. that's the only thing i've found. same problem - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8159175#post8159175
[14:22] <beachdaze> jayce, exactly same entries in fstab in 9.04 worked fin here too
[14:22] <da65> cwill, they usb?
[14:23] <AL__> ttp://paste.ubuntu.com/305092/
[14:23] <dreambox> hello friends. I am planning on installing Ubuntu this weekend, I have a long fbsd experience so i guess I won't face serious issues, but I'd like to know if there's someone that has installed it on a TOSHIBA SATELLITE A300 (I am not sure about the short model)
[14:23] <vadviktor1> san2345: and example http://paste.ubuntu.com/305093/
[14:23] <fatbrain> Hi, what would be a good way to mount cue/bin cd-images in Ubuntu?
[14:23] <vubuntor9930> Question: When I close my Lidscreen on my laptop,Ubuntu 9.10 freeze,what's wrong?
[14:23] <cwill747> da65: what do you mean?
[14:23] <mychew> hmm..now my D-link Dwa-140 break =(
[14:23] <san2345> im on windows now
[14:23] <n8tuser> jayce-> how are you mounting those 3 drives? manually? or at least can you try a manual mount to test before using fstab?
[14:23] <da65> how they connected?
[14:23] <jayce> beachdaze - I guess this is where we play the waiting game and wait for an update.
[14:23] <vadviktor1> san2345: well this is an Ubuntu channel :)
[14:23] <san2345> i cant connect net on ubuntu
[14:23] <san2345> ya
[14:23] <MK13> cwill747, i could also probably rename the sound file right?
[14:23] <fakeer> bazhang: yeah backedup /home and as i had cleaned up after package installs i could do AptOnCD .. so it's fine I guess..and besides everything was on Dropbox too (almost ) :)
[14:23] <san2345> i know
[14:23] <san2345> i use ubuntu
[14:23] <jayce> n8tuser - If I remember correctly I can mount them manually
[14:23] <n8tuser> vubuntor9930-> it works on my ibm t42 thinkpad, but im using 8.10
[14:23] <san2345> its on ubuntu im not able to set
[14:23] <jayce> n8tuser - but not to be a jerk, I cant have that. I need the fstab thing.
[14:23] <ergy> !who | san2345
[14:24] <da65> geez fglrx driver seems big
[14:24] <cwill747> MK13: oh. good point. that would probably work. it miight give you an error though
[14:24] <ActionParsnip1> san2345: do you get DHCP from your connection device?
[14:24] <n8tuser> jayce-> try it now again manually, and then move forward to fstab once you got it going
[14:24] <san2345> ya
[14:24] <edgy> hi, what's the command to rsync the my beta dvd iso to the latest karmic? I keep getting errors
[14:24] <ActionParsnip1> san2345: is it wired or wireless?
[14:24] <vadviktor1> san2345: so that's what i have sent you, ubuntu setup for static ip
[14:24] <jayce> n8tuser - it does NOT work with fstab. It doesnt. Ive tried.
[14:24] <fakeer> bazhang: any issues installing GRUB?? I remeber I check a box while using LiveCD....any instructions you wanna give??
[14:24] <san2345> well im using xchat anyshortcut to paste usr nick
[14:24] <ActionParsnip1> san2345: tab complete my nick at the start of lines if they are addressed to me
[14:24] <san2345> its wired lan
[14:24] <del-> hmm
[14:25] <n8tuser> jayce-> once more, try not with manual mount.. perhaps you can show me your exact command
[14:25] <fakeer> bazhang: it's strange I couldn't find any tutorial or screenshots for Alternate CD... you know any?
[14:25] <beachdaze> n8tuser, same basic issue as jayce, when mounting thru fstab nas drives are mounted as root, not user as in 9.04?
[14:25] <jayce> n8tuser - try not with manual mount?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip1> san2345: ok so can you ping your routers internal IP?
[14:25] <n8tuser> beachdaze-> depends on the options of mount
[14:25] <bazhang> fakeer, for karmic? not really, though others online should be quite similar
[14:25] <san2345> well thats not my issue
[14:25] <san2345> wen i try to set it static the save tab is greyed
[14:25] <n8tuser> jayce-> i meant use the mount command to mount i manually.. have you tried it yet?
[14:26] <fakeer> bazhang: no , i couldn't find one for even jaunty
[14:26] <bazhang> san2345, please prepend the person's nick that you are addressing
[14:26] <san2345> sorry
[14:26] <MK13> cwill747, any clue where it is located?
[14:26] <vadviktor1> san2345: on xchat, start typing then tab the name out, like in the terminal
[14:26] <ActionParsnip1> san2345: well whats your issue
[14:26] <beachdaze> n8tuser, same as it was in 9.04,  "//<IP of host>/path/to/share /home/<user>/folder cifs auto 0 0"
[14:27] <mikebeecham> sorry to be a pain, but I am finding more and more issues with Karmic...I've just discovered that Ubuntu no longer recognises that I have an Audigy 4 sound card, and I have to use some generic internal driver.  What happens now though is when my boys play supertux, the sound in intrermittent with crackling and noise??
[14:27] <beachdaze> n8tuser, that line worked fine in 9.04
[14:27] <david__> hi does any one know how to convert flv to wmv9 format please
[14:27] <jayce> beachdaze, n8tuser - I dont even do THAT much in fstab. I simply put the UUID and the path I want it to mount. n8tuser just hits me with errors....
[14:28] <n8tuser> beachdaze-> may i suggest doing a man mount, or man fstab and look for the user vs users option i believe
[14:28] <san2345> ActionParsnip1, actualy i mainly use xp i hav a lan but recently i installed ubuntu to just try it out but in ubuntu ipv4 cant b change and i hav to change it
[14:28] <ActionParsnip1> san2345: try running the app using gksudo
[14:28] <cwill747> MK13: /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo
[14:28] <Wrb> hi
[14:28] <c3l_> is it possible to have different wallpapers on different monitors? (running dual monitor setup)
[14:28] <Wrb> can somebody help me with font problems in Firefox?
[14:29] <Younder> what font problems?
[14:29] <beachdaze> n8tuser, did that already, when adding the users to the fstab, it allows browsing but no writing
[14:29] <n8tuser> jayce-> thats the point of i want you to try this manually so you can see the errors,  perhaps your uuid is wrong,  use  sudo blkid to find it
[14:29] <ActionParsnip1> san2345: or you can use /etc/network/interfaces to define the addressing
[14:29] <san2345> i want to change my ipv4 but as i keep manual and change it the Apply options dissapears
[14:29] <jayce> n8tuser - I did :)
[14:29] <Dezent> Anyone know how to edit the grub menu in 9.10? /boot/grub/menu.lst dosn't work
[14:29] <leaf-sheep> c3l_: GIMP! Make those wallpapers into one gigantic file!
[14:29] <MK13> cwill747, the system ready i am guessing?
[14:29] <Wrb> I can't get the fonts to change...I set default to Times New Roman but it doesn't look any different
[14:29] <jayce> n8tuser - I can assure you, my UUID is perfect. I've looked at it a thousand times.
[14:29] <Wrb> I basically want it to look like does in windows haha
[14:29] <leaf-sheep> !grub2 | Dezent
[14:29] <n8tuser> beachdaze-> look for more options, i cant remember all of them, look in particular regaring ability to read/write for the users
[14:29] <ActionParsnip1> Dezent: /boot/grub/grub.cfg  but it will get changed after kernel installs
[14:30] <c3l_> leaf-sheep, time consuming! why cant it work like in KDE?
[14:30] <Dezent> Thanks!!
[14:30] <jayce> n8tuser - I dont get any errors until Im in ubuntu. Then when I select places and I click on the hard drive that fstab auto-mounted, it gives me an error that only root can do that.
[14:30] <c3l_> leaf-sheep, well what about different wallpapers on different desktops?
[14:30] <leejongwook> what's new with 9.10 ?
[14:30] <beachdaze> n8tuser, I'll go back and re-read, but I find it strange that 9.10 broke this...thanks for the help!
[14:30] <ActionParsnip1> Dezent: you will need to edit config scripts and files for grub2 to be permanently changed
[14:30] <Younder> This would be easier if not for old Pici
[14:30] <Dezent> ActionParsnip1: Thanks!!!
[14:30] <Pici> Younder: I'll be done soon
[14:30] <leejongwook> :)
[14:30] <leejongwook> abc
[14:30] <HiThereC> Hi, booted the 64-bit Live CD of 9.10 (Desktop) and it's asking me to login, tried user ubuntu with blank password (and ubuntu as password) and nothing works
[14:30] <HiThereC> How do I get in? :(
[14:30] <leaf-sheep> c3l_: Well, if you don't -- It'll stretch out. This is only a suggestion but you're welcome to find another solution. :)
[14:30] <ActionParsnip1> !grub2 | Dezent
[14:30] <leejongwook> ddd
[14:31] <ubuntistas> how can i install mediubuntu
[14:31] <cwill747> MK13: yeah. that's what it sounds like
[14:31] <ubuntistas> how can i install mediubuntu?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip1> HiThereC: restart the x server and just wait, it will auto login
[14:31] <HiThereC> How do I restart the X server?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip1> !medibuntu | ubuntistas
[14:31] <TheInfinity> !medibuntu
[14:31] <ActionParsnip1> HiThereC: alt + print screen + k
[14:31] <HiThereC> OKay thanks
[14:31] <Xserver> hi everyone
[14:31] <c3l_> leaf-sheep, okay =) well ill try to find a proper solution ;) if KDE can, GNOME should be able to do it too
[14:31] <ZykoticK9> ubuntistas, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[14:31] <leejongwook> freaking annoying iggy people bothering this channel
[14:31] <HiThereC> will try 1min
[14:32] <n8tuser> jayce-> okay i take your word for it, i dont use 9.10 yet, but if you can also find out if the user is using fuse.. i dont the intimate details til i have to google for it
[14:32] <Xserver> anyone please suggest me a better way to remote desktop my ubuntu server
[14:32] <DJones> leejongwook: Details of whats new in 9.10 are listed at http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-910
[14:32] <ActionParsnip1> Xserver: ssh + x forwarding
[14:32] <n8tuser> Xserver-> what do you meant by a better way? ssh is common
[14:32] <teolicy> Hi. I can not record sound in 9.10 (neither Skype nor in Sound Recorder). I checked the volume preferences, they seem fine. How else should I diagnose this?
[14:32] <Younder> Xserver, better than what
[14:32] <Xserver> ssh for remote desktop or CLI ?
[14:32] <leaf-sheep> HiThereC: Run this in the TTY1 will work too --> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[14:32] <ActionParsnip1> Xserver: both, you can run the x based apps using remote X server
[14:32] <HiThereC> couldnt get a tty
[14:33] <cobalt_> expressfr
[14:33] <n8tuser> Xserver-> ahh, use xvnc
[14:33] <Scuttle> hm...I seem to have lost the sound in Ubuntu... just installed 9.10, and now when I start X, there is no audio-device present
[14:33] <Xserver> Younder : Better than CLI .. as i need to run WINE on ubuntu server
[14:33] <ActionParsnip1> Xserver: why do you need the full desktop?
[14:33] <Scuttle> is there a way to "reinstall" the soundcard?
[14:33] <unimatrix> is it better to configure encryption during installation or to configure truecrypt later?
[14:33] <HiThereC> no getty was running or something, just saw some "Authentication Failure" messages and no login prompt or shell
[14:33] <xdfm> Xserver, openvnc
[14:33] <Younder> Your server has bee set up for remote access using SSH
[14:33] <Xserver> Younder : yes
[14:33] <leaf-sheep> unimatrix: cryptsetup and Truecrypt is not the same thing.
[14:33] <Xserver> but wine doesn't work without Desktop
[14:33] <EdwardIII> hey, trying this on ubuntu (sudo -u www-data apache2 -t -D DUMP_MODULES) and getting an error: apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}
[14:33] <Xserver> so need to install gnome / kde
[14:33] <ActionParsnip1> Xserver: it will if you use a remote x server
[14:34] <Daedauls-Sax> hello i have a question, i have a ati x1300, which with the current driver offered from ubuntu is quite literally not functional. always crashes, didn't before 9.04. anyways, i now have a nvidia 6200, and i couldn't find any problems online with this card and 9.04-9.10, but have you heard of any problems here? I don't want to switch graphics cards and lose graphics power just for a card that's also gonna have linux probs
[14:34] <[manas]> i got internal hardisk whit ntfs particion so everytime i restart my machine i need to mount it is it any change i can avoid it???????
[14:34] <MK13> cwill747, i added the notification applet then relogged in and the network icon is back, thanks
[14:34] <unimatrix> leaf-sheep: which one is better?
[14:34] <grawity> [manas]: /etc/fstab
[14:34] <fakeer> bazhang: thank you...i think i will install now..hope i don not ruin my other partitons :) .. still a tutorial would instill some confidence in me :)
[14:34] <ActionParsnip1> Xserver: if you are using a linux client you can run: ssh -X user@server
[14:34] <san2345> ActionParsnip1, i am very new to linux also to irc
[14:34] <Xserver> ActionParsnip1 : Sorry ... but i am on Windows
[14:34] <ActionParsnip1> Xserver: you can then launch X based apps and they will appear on the client system but be running on the server
[14:35] <leaf-sheep> unimatrix: It depends on one's preferences. My belief is that cryptsetup is nice/better because that's something native in linux.
[14:35] <ActionParsnip1> Xserver: then you can install and run xming
[14:35] <da65> !chat
[14:35] <ActionParsnip1> Xserver: you can then use: putty -X user@server
[14:35] <simmerz> Hi. I've upgraded a server domU (using Xen) to karmic, but it refuses to boot, saying: mountall:/proc: unable to mount: Device or resource busy
[14:35] <bazhang> fakeer, have been looking but have not found (ie with screenshots); I will be around if you need assistance at various points in the process though
[14:35] <[manas]> grawity, /etc/fstab command not found
[14:35] <da65> is there a ubuntu chat/gripe area?
[14:35] <grawity> [manas]: It's a file to edit, not a command.
[14:36] <Overflow> [manas], gedit /etc/fstab
[14:36] <san2345> so mwen u try to set manually wat do u get?
[14:36] <[manas]> grawity, i can u tell my what i need to edit cos i got no clue
[14:36] <Xserver> ActionParsnip1 : regardless of Desktop not available on Ubutnu ?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip1> san2345: there is a guide here, you can define addresses in the interfaces file: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[14:36] <inthevidual> Hi, a friend of mine had a failure after upgrading to karmic
[14:36] <boscop> how can I change the permission of files in the trash so that they can be deleted??
[14:36] <grawity> [manas]: First, run "sudo blkid" and find out the partition's /dev name
[14:36] <inthevidual> mountall won't run
[14:36] <grawity> [manas]: Or even better, the UUID.
[14:36] <Younder> ActionParsnip1, What windows program is that you wish to run remotely, and how did you get yourself in this precarious situation?
[14:36] <inthevidual> and when dropping to recovery shell, it asks for a password
[14:36] <da65> boscop: why put them there?
[14:36] <boscop> will it mess up things to do it manually?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip1> Xserver: totally, as long as the app you need is installed with its deps then you can run them in this style
[14:36] <grawity> boscop: ~/.local/share/Trash/
[14:36] <inthevidual> but, is there any kind of root/recovery shell password in ubuntu?
[14:37] <grawity> boscop: chown, chmod, or - if you prefer - rm -rf.
[14:37] <grawity> inthevidual: If you had set a root password, use that.
[14:37] <boscop> grawity: I know, but there are special info files in Trash/info
[14:37] <Boohbah> inthevidual: you may boot single user mode by selecting the "Recovery mode" kernel at the grub menu
[14:37] <Daedauls-Sax> i have a ati x1300 that crashes with ubuntu's 8.10 and higher, works perfect with 8.04. i have a nvidia 6200, not nearly as good, but im willing to take the hit if i am not gonna have the saem problem with ubuntu. i don't want to have to buy new hardware every 2 years just to have ubuntu, might as well buy windows then.... anyone else have this problem?
[14:37] <da65> inthevidual: yeah, reinstall
[14:37] <grawity> boscop: Eh, just nuke the entire thing and it'll be okay.
[14:37] <fakeer> bazhang: i may get in touch with you from a friend's computer in case of a trouble...many thanks..leaving now..
[14:37] <grawity> inthevidual: If you haven't -- then it should not ask.
[14:37] <Younder> inthevidual, no, you would need a fedora style startup for that
[14:37] <grawity> inthevidual: However, there are ways to bypass it...
[14:37] <boscop> grawity: should I also delete the info files?
[14:37] <gianluigisk8> hello.....if i install ubuntu 9.10 after windows 7 ....in the grub i can see  windows?
[14:37] <da65> does ubuntu have a chat area plz
[14:37] <[manas]> grawity, /dev/sda5: UUID="460063AD0063A2A3" LABEL="WD320" TYPE="ntfs"
[14:37] <san2345> ActionParsnip1, plzz help me out
[14:37] <Pici> da65: #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:37] <da65> ty
[14:37] <Xserver> ActionParsnip1 : can i pm you ? i can't see anything in this msg floods ...
[14:38] <grawity> [manas]: Okay. Now where do you want to mount it? /media/somewhere or such.
[14:38] <inthevidual> Boohbah: the problem is that that doesn't work either, the single user mode. it still asks for a root password even though i never set one
[14:38] <ActionParsnip1> Younder: i'm showing how a full desktop isnt needed and you can use x forwarding
[14:38] <Marchingknight11> hey I just installed ubuntu 9.10 and i cant get my wireless to work
[14:38] <ActionParsnip1> Xserver: sure
[14:38] <ZykoticK9> Daedauls-Sax, i don't know about the 6200 specifically, but generally moving from ATI to Nvidia will NOT be a performace hit - it's gonna work a lot better.  best of luck.
[14:38] <grawity> inthevidual: 'Recovery mode' is exactly the same as "single user"...
[14:38] <inthevidual> I used remastersys yo make the original install cd, could that have had any effect?
[14:38] <Marchingknight11> it looks like the driver isnt installed
[14:38] <san2345> ActionParsnip1, wen i try to set ip manually they apply option greys out
[14:38] <ActionParsnip1> san2345: the guide I gave is as clear as I can make it
[14:38] <Younder> inthevidual, set runlevel 2 to text login single user etc
[14:38] <Marchingknight11> can anyone help
[14:38] <grawity> inthevidual: You can try appending this instead: init=/bin/bash
[14:38] <Xserver> SELECT FROM #ubuntu where UserID = "ActionParsnip1" <<<<------------ Hope this would have worked ...
[14:38] <[manas]> grawity, i just want it to be allway when i restart my machine
[14:38] <san2345> ActionParsnip1,  sorry i missed the mssg
[14:38] <inthevidual> grawity: I know, but it still asks me for a root password when dropping to recovery shell
[14:38] <ActionParsnip1> san2345: use the /etc/network/interfaces file to define the IP
[14:39] <crypto_> no sound i upgraded to ubuntu 9.10
[14:39] <HiThereC> Ubuntu is now stuck on the pulsing ubuntu logo on startup, CD drive has stopped and its doing  nothing... or is it?
[14:39] <grawity> [manas]: You already said that three tiems. Now answer the question.
[14:39] <HiThereC> now theres two ubuntu logos
[14:39] <crypto_> synaptics pointing not working
[14:39] <da65> empathy is not very good is it
[14:39] <WilliamC> Are there any benefits to rebuilding the Kernel?
[14:39] <crypto_> lots of problems
[14:39] <grawity> inthevidual: The init= one has always worked for me.
[14:39] <crypto_> help!!
[14:39] <G_A_C> hey guys, I'm having trouble with the ubuntu keyserver...what's the hostname for the other server that "mirrors" it? I can't remember
[14:39] <Younder> Xserver, that is SQL
[14:39] <grawity> G_A_C: pool.sks-keyservers.net
[14:39] <da65> cant even join another room
[14:39] <san2345> ActionParsnip1, i am pretty noob so i wont know what entry to modify
[14:39] <Marchingknight11> 9.10 wireless not working
[14:39] <[manas]> grawity, media should be fine
[14:39] <Daedauls-Sax> zykoticK9: well, actually the x1300 blows the doors off the nvidia card i have in every way, faster ram, more ram, faster clock speeds, better shaders, more pipeelines, all around whoops the nvidia
[14:39] <ZykoticK9> WilliamC, not unless you have a VERY compelling reason to do so.
[14:39] <G_A_C> thanks grawity
[14:39] <[manas]> grawity, just like normal hhd
[14:40] <WilliamC> ZykoticK9, last time I tried it, it took hours and it failed to boot afterward.
[14:40] <grawity> [manas]: Can you tell the exact path? /media/windows, or /media/media, or /media/WD320, or...
[14:40] <boscop> grawity: can I just delete the entire Trash folder?
[14:40] <grawity> boscop: Yes.
[14:40] <magr> anyone who can help me acces the usb stick in the terminal, what command do i have to write??
[14:40] <pax-> Any update on this issue? I just run update manager and updated the client but still get the error, x64 9.10 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8191856
[14:40] <ZykoticK9> Daedauls-Sax, if i had a Ferrari without a steering wheel would i be able to beat my Civic that does have a steering wheel?
[14:40] <Marchingknight11> i just installed 9.10 and my wireless doesnt work
[14:40] <teolicy> How is audio recording done in vanilla 9.10? I want to troubleshoot, and would like to save some reading by reading just about the right components. Specifically, how do kernel drivers, alsa, pulseaudio and maybe others interact?
[14:40] <WilliamC> ZykoticK9, only if it has no bends.
[14:40] <Younder> boscop, you might want to limit yourself to the content
[14:40] <ZykoticK9> WilliamC, i'm recommending you DON'T recompile kernel.
[14:40] <Qubes> magr : cd /media
[14:41] <WilliamC> ZykoticK9, I know, I don't plan to.
[14:41] <[manas]> grawity, /media/WD320
[14:41] <Marchingknight11> can anyone help me get my wireless working
[14:41] <crypto_> ubuntu 9.10 sucks
[14:41] <san2345> :)k
[14:41] <crypto_> no hardware support
[14:41] <san2345> lol hahaha crypto lol
[14:41] <Overflow> crypto_, yea
[14:41] <magr> qubes: yeah but cd /media is not a problem, its when i type cd /disk-1 in /media its doesnt work...
[14:41] <grawity> [manas]: Okay, now can you type 'id' and paste the output?
[14:41] <crypto_> my synaptics pointing device not working
[14:41] <Younder> NO Hardware support crypto
[14:41] <crypto_> no sound
[14:41] <Daedauls-Sax> ZykoticK9: Lol, in a drag race yes, but i get your point. having better hardware that doesn't work right because of the drivers given by ubuntu is not as good as a card that runs well because of drivers that run perfect in ubuntu
[14:41] <ajunior> I don't problem with 9.10. It's better for me.
[14:42] <Younder> that sounds insane
[14:42] <[manas]> uid=1000(zion) gid=1000(zion) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),106(lpadmin),121(admin),122(sambashare),1000(zion)
[14:42] <boscop> Younder, grawity: I have read and write permissions on the two subfolders "files" and "info", but I somehow can't delete them, as if I didn'T have the privileges
[14:42] <Kottisen> How do I add someone to the "sudoers file"?
[14:42] <san2345> plzz help some1
[14:42] <Marchingknight11> can anyone help me with my wireless
[14:42] <crypto_> i will resterat again
[14:42] <[manas]> grawity, uid=1000(zion) gid=1000(zion) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),106(lpadmin),121(admin),122(sambashare),1000(zion)
[14:42] <leaf-sheep> crypto_: It is just you. You're assuming Ubuntu sucks because it does not work for you.
[14:42] <san2345> 4
[14:42] <WilliamC> Who do I complain to about the default theme?
[14:42] <ZykoticK9> Daedauls-Sax, exactly -- I have used Nvidia under linux for a long time -- WAY better then ATI
[14:42] <chazco> Hi... does anyone know what happened to totem-xine in karmic? Totem-gstreamer still can't handle DVB or DVD...
[14:42] <Younder> boscop, do a 'sudo su' and try again
[14:42] <MK13> what is the replacement for /boot/grub/menu.lst in 9.10?
[14:42] <Kottisen> How do I add someone to the "sudoers file"?
[14:43] <grawity> Kottisen: 'sudo visudo'
[14:43] <san2345> hey some1 plzz help m mee  set up my lan ipv4 adres manualy
[14:43] <grawity> Kottisen: Or, better, 'sudo adduser someone admin'
[14:43] <joaopinto> WilliamC, you don't complain, you do suggestions, a good place would be to report a bug on launchpad, or use brainstorm to suggest the theme change
[14:43] <sergeykish> Hello, tutorial step require download files from http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7773647&postcount=13, but forum response with "SergeyKish, you do not have permission to access this page" why and how can I get files?
[14:43] <SMiTTY> Kottisen,   sudo visudo
[14:43] <hdon> hi all. how do i make the VM in sun-java6-jre the default java vm?
[14:43] <Kottisen> grawity: Okey, thanks.
[14:43] <slurp> i have a problem with wireless card
[14:43] <WilliamC> joaopinto, I just don't like how brown it is.
[14:43] <leejongwook> DJones, thanks :)
[14:43] <nanotube> !sudo | Kottisen
[14:43] <slurp> it's not work
[14:43] <grawity> [manas]: Thanks. I've put the instructions at http://sprunge.us/RCSN
[14:43] <Marchingknight11> can someone help me with wireless
[14:43] <sam_> chazco, totem doesn't have xine support anymore. you should use dragon player or something else on klde
[14:43] <Daedauls-Sax> does anyone know if ubuntu's open source driver is being worked on for the x1300? because the x1300 with the currently used ubuntu driver is horrible, ultra crashy, and doesn't do that at all on my xp partition, which is actually where i am hailing you from right now
[14:43] <slurp> can you help me?
[14:43] <joaopinto> WilliamC, that is a personal problem nothing we can help you with :)
[14:43] <ActionParsnip1> san2345: thats why i gave the link
[14:43] <Marchingknight11> slurp: i have the same problem
[14:43] <slurp> hi
[14:44] <chazco> sam_ - Ah, thats bad news. Thanks anyway.
[14:44] <WilliamC> Marchingknight11, you probably need to install a driver or something
[14:44] <postcard> hi
[14:44] <Marchingknight11> williamc: how do i do that
[14:44] <[manas]> grawity, let me try
[14:44] <Younder> boscop, you hear me?
[14:44] <WilliamC> I don't know, I never had the problem.
[14:44] <Daedauls-Sax> well thanx for the info ZykoticK9.
[14:44] <boscop> Younder: yes
[14:44] <Marchingknight11> great, thanks
[14:44] <slurp> if i write lspcmcia
[14:44] <slurp> , the response is 0000000
[14:44] <Marchingknight11> can anyone actually help me
[14:44] <ZykoticK9> Daedauls-Sax, good luck man!
[14:44] <joaopinto> WilliamC, please do not provide random useless replies, that does not help
[14:44] <exiton> I have a ATI Radeon Mobility 7500 and problems with my graphics driver. What can i do? do i have to make a xorg.conf?
[14:44] <Daedauls-Sax> ty'
[14:44] <Daedauls-Sax> peace, out! (that was pretty lame sorry)
[14:44] <sam_> hi, i've mysql-server installed and don't want it to start every time i start my system. how can i disable it so that it only starts when i want it?
[14:45] <WilliamC> joaopinto, I'm pretty sure that it means that it has no driver, I could be wrong.
[14:45] <Younder> boscop, did it work?
[14:45] <grawity> [manas]: Oh, one more thing I forgot. Use "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab" to edit that file.
[14:45] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: what kind of wireless device/card do you have
[14:45] <netrat> sam_, go into /etc/rc2.d and find S??mysql, rename it to K??mysql
[14:45] <ZykoticK9> sam_, System / Admin / Services - uncheck it
[14:45] <SurfyDudee> hello
[14:45] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[14:45] <Younder> boscop, do a 'sudo su' and try again
[14:45] <m1k3y_> hey everyone
[14:45] <joaopinto> WilliamC, drivers are built-in the system except for a very rare cases, for closed driver sources, you have no idea if his card is supported or if he just missing some configuration
[14:46] <Younder> to remove acess restricted files
[14:46] <SurfyDudee> i found the driver for my usb wifi dongle....but its rpm.....any ideas? i cant install alien
[14:46] <da651> 9.10 is great, empathy sucks, get rid of it :)
[14:46] <WilliamC> joaopinto, oh, so Linux no longer has that lack of drivers issue?
[14:46] <grawity> SurfyDudee: Why not?
[14:46] <joaopinto> SurfyDudee, installing a driver from RPM even after using alien will not work and may break your system
[14:46] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: when i installed the driver was not found and it doesnt show up under hardware drivers
[14:46] <boscop> Younder: yes, thanks
[14:47] <ajunior> where I turn on my 3g connection?
[14:47] <leejongwook> da651, what made you think great  ?
[14:47] <joaopinto> WilliamC, linux has evolved a lot on hardware support on the last years, that does not mean every hw is supported
[14:47] <da651> leejong: all works here :)
[14:47] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: so you've done a       sudo apt-get update     and nothing shows up under System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers?
[14:47] <leejongwook> wish i could see 9.10
[14:47] <sam_> netrat, thanks. now i can start it with 'sudo service mysql start' i guess?
[14:47] <WilliamC> joaopinto, first few years I used Linux, most hardware didn't work, or required someone reverse-engineering the drivers.
[14:47] <WilliamC> I remember when WinModems were the bane.
[14:47] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: i havent done a sudo yet let me try that
[14:47] <QaDeS> hiyas. what's the easiest way to set up bridged networking with qemu in ubuntu linux?
[14:48] <eniacpx> I did a dist-upgrade to Karmic about two weeks ago, is it worth doing a clean install? Will it be that different?
[14:48] <joaopinto> WilliamC, and the isse is not with linux, but with the vendors, drivers are vendors responsibility
[14:48] <da651> yeah that software moem was a pain
[14:48] <da651> modem even
[14:48] <Kottisen> thanks
[14:48] <Kottisen> i think it works now
[14:48] <m1k3y_> how does everyone like ubunutu 9.10???
[14:48] <joaopinto> eniacpx, if you don't have any problem, it doesn't worth a reinstall
[14:48] <Younder> boscop, Don't set a root passwd alla 'sudo passw root'
[14:48] <da651> 2 cans and string was faster :)
[14:48] <WilliamC> joaopinto, well, the issue is that they don't take us seriously enough, but it's getting better.
[14:48] <cellofellow> I'd like to install Ubuntu to a USB drive from an iMac and run it on that Mac, without using a CD. Is there some way to do that?
[14:48] <Younder> password
[14:48] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: i think that might have done it ill let you know
[14:48] <eniacpx> joaopinto: thanks
[14:49] <brahmana|web> Hi all,
[14:49] <simmerz> Hi. I've upgraded a server domU (using Xen) to karmic, but it refuses to boot, saying: mountall:/proc: unable to mount: Device or resource busy. any ideas?
[14:49] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: k
[14:49] <brahmana|web> Anyone knows what is the default connect timeout?
[14:50] <Younder> 1 minute?
[14:50] <QaDeS> are there any tools to set up virtual (tun/tap or whatever) networking?
[14:50] <QaDeS> preferably graphical tools ^^
[14:50] <cellofellow> cdimage.ubuntu.com seems hammered
[14:51] <m1k3y_> is anyone having issues with installing software from the ubuntu software center in 9.10?? almost every program i goto install says "not available in the current data" any ideas what that means?
[14:51] <simmerz> why would mountall fail on booting a karmic virtual guest?
[14:51] <SurfyDudee> how do i install an rpm driver under ubuntu then?
[14:51] <Younder> kermit?
[14:51] <Younder> SurfyDudee, you don't
[14:51] <leaf-sheep> Ubuntu Kermit!
[14:51] <WilliamC> joaopinto, the only issue I have is that since I installed 9.10 it's not auto-logging in.
[14:51] <Younder> rpm is fedora/redhat distribution
[14:52] <leaf-sheep> !alien | SurfyDudee
[14:52] <Younder> SurfyDudee, use the .deb files
[14:52] <boscop> I'm going to upgrade to karmic now, why does it want to uninstall so many packages?
[14:52] <SurfyDudee> there is no .deb file
[14:52] <SurfyDudee> just an rpm
[14:52] <Flynsarmy> How do i get the update manager appearing in my system tray when there are updates like in previous versions? (on karmic)
[14:53] <cellofellow> SurfyDudee: then install from source
[14:53] <joaopinto> SurfyDudee, then pleask ask the vendor to provide a deb, or check if there is a compatible driver already on the kernel
[14:53] <SMiTTY> so I just upgraded another desktop here in our lab to 9.10....it rebooted and is blinking at the login prompt. Didn't even try to bring up gui login....I've ssh'd in to apt-get update && apt-get upgrade .  Hopefully that fixes it.
[14:53] <Younder> SurfyDudee, the get the source distribution
[14:53] <SMiTTY> 2 other desktops went without issue btw
[14:53] <boscop> is karmic faster in execution than jaunty?
[14:53] <yasin> hi
[14:53] <joaopinto> boscop, nothing significant
[14:53] <MmikeNekud> What is wrong with http://packages.ubuntu.com ?
[14:53] <WilliamC> Boscop, I haven't noticed a difference.
[14:54] <boscop> joaopinto: too bad :(   why is ubuntu soo slow compared to win xp?
[14:54] <WilliamC> Boscop, it shouldn't be.
[14:54] <xaxaxax> axmm
[14:54] <yasin> ubuntu jaunty livecd error > "Frequency out of range". Not installing karmic.
[14:54] <gburton> BEEP BEEP BEEP flame war approaching
[14:54] <xaxaxax> good
[14:54] <gburton> boscop: dont start a flame war dude
[14:54] <joaopinto> boscop, because it provides more services & features
[14:54] <gburton> here it comes
[14:54] <ActionParsnip1> boscop: poor config
[14:54] <joaopinto> boscop, if you have a lower resources system you would better use xubuntu
[14:54] <xaxaxax> where r u from?
[14:54] <yasin> ubuntu karmic livecd error > "Frequency out of range".  Ubuntu requirements are higher tan XP, that is not a configurtion issue, it's the regular system requirements
[14:55] <da651> I know, been there
[14:55] <cellofellow> joaopinto: actually, last time I checked Xubuntu uses more memory out of the box than ubuntu.
[14:55] <xaxaxax> americans ??
[14:55] <Flynsarmy> How do i get the update manager appearing in my system tray when there are updates like in previous versions? (on karmic)
[14:55] <cellofellow> Lubuntu is lighter but... so far haven't seen an official release of Lubuntu yet.
[14:55] <joaopinto> cellofellow, that is not expected, if it does you should file a bug report, since that is not how it's listed on the system requirements
[14:55] <ActionParsnip1> joaopinto: none of my systems will take XP, but will runlinux admirably
[14:56] <boscop> joaopinto: is 2 Ghz cpu lower resource? or 1GB ram? I had a computer with 256 MB ram and 1.5 Gzh before and it ran faster (on win xp)
[14:56] <dios_mio> my wired icon looks like the plug is pulled? how come?
[14:56] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: i got disconnected it said i had to reboot and after doing that it still isnt working
[14:56] <WilliamC> boscop, you're doing something wrong.
[14:56] <joaopinto> ActionParsnip1, so you are lucky, that doesn't change the facts, please read the Ubuntu system requirements if you have doubts
[14:56] <cellofellow> boscop: CPU is less important than RAM.
[14:56] <boscop> WilliamC: what is it?
[14:56] <nsahoo> hi .. after upgrading to karmic I can't find the Bitstream Vera fonts
[14:56] <boscop> cellofellow: but the cpu is often at max
[14:56] <WilliamC> Boscop, maybe it's Opera.
[14:56] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: it shows 2 broadcom drivers,  B43 wireless driver and STA wireless driver
[14:56] <gburton> boscop: that suggests something is horribly wrong...
[14:56] <joaopinto> boscop, ok, that is not a very low system, so you are likely to have some problem causing the performance degradation
[14:56] <ActionParsnip1> joaopinto: i dont doubt what some site says. I'm telling you what Ive actually seen and experienced
[14:56] <carresmd> when will they replace the damn keyserver, it constantly down!!
[14:56] <boscop> WilliamC: I even had to stop using firefox
[14:56] <cellofellow> boscop: anything greater than 800Mhz should do fine, and a 1/2GB RAM is just barely enough.
[14:56] <yasin> Please.ubuntu karmic livecd error > "Frequency out of range". Not installing karmic. Philips 107E
[14:56] <grawity> nsahoo: Do you have DejaVu fonts? (If I recall correctly, DejaVu ones are just extended Bitstream Vera.)
 I have the driver but its RPM.... and I can't use Alien cuz someone told me it will screw everything up
[14:57] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: you want the b43 one
[14:57] <Younder> SurfyDudee. I suppose you know the mantra. install in /usr/src do a tar azvf. a .configure and a make and a make install
[14:57] <WilliamC> boscop, have you considered reinstalling?
[14:57] <joaopinto> ActionParsnip1, the user was not asking about your experience, was asking about a general question about performance between OSes
[14:57] <grawity> !info ttf-bitstream
[14:57] <nsahoo> grawity: i have those, let me try using them
[14:57] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: ok, i activated that and rebooted and it still isnt working
[14:57] <boscop> gburton: what could it be? I didn't change anything except updating/upgrading since installation
[14:57] <ActionParsnip1> joaopinto: well i can only call it as i see it
[14:57] <Consty> When upgrading to ubuntu server 9.10 from 9.04, if I closed do-release-upgrade before it finished, can I simply re-run it again, or will it attempt to upgrade to the next version of ubuntu in development?
[14:57] <cellofellow> boscop: try using System Monitor, htop, or plain top to see what is hogging your resources.
[14:57] <joaopinto> there is a misconception that Ubuntu can run everywhere faster than any OS, which is not true
[14:57] <gburton> boscop: open a terminal and run top
[14:58] <lazarus> i've found major bug in 9.10
[14:58] <boscop> WilliamC: what would that change?
[14:58] <nsahoo> grawity: i guess they are fine
[14:58] <ActionParsnip1> SurfyDudee: if there is an RPM there may be source code you can compile
[14:58] <joaopinto> ActionParsnip1, and how does that help the question ?
[14:58] <da651> alyone from Wales here and use Boinc, please join the Welsh team, I am the founder, sry for the plug buts its for a good free cause :)
[14:58] <WilliamC> boscop, hopefully the problem.
[14:58] <flan_suse> I asked in the xubuntu channel, but got no response: I'm having a problem with saving my wireless WPA passhprase using Xubuntu. I have "Start GNOME services" enabled, and I also installed "Seahorse" via Synaptics.
[14:58] <flan_suse> However, the NetworkManager is not saving my WPA passphrase. And the one time it did, it left it unprotected (plaintext, not a hash, like GNOME does.)
 I have no idea how to do that...im new to ubuntu
[14:58] <flan_suse> When I open up Seahorse, I cannot "change password" for the login key.
[14:58] <apostasiopoihmen> so many users
[14:59] <boscop> WilliamC: the problem is, that apps take so much cpu, often operapluginwrapper is at the top
[14:59] <SurfyDudee> can you tell me in easy terms please
[14:59] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: you can try the other then, just make sure you deactivate b43 first
[14:59] <module000> flan_suse: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[14:59] <chazco> One of the regressions introduced in 9.10 is that DVB support seems to have been lost (due to the removal of totem-xine)... how can I get this back?
[14:59] <hatchetman82> wow ... post 9.10 rush hour
[14:59] <WilliamC> boscop, that shouldn't happen, ever.
[14:59] <flan_suse> module000, I don't like wicd.
[14:59] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: ok thanks ill try that
[14:59] <boscop> WilliamC: with windows, minimized apps don't take so much cpu
[14:59] <gburton> lol i just noticed the 1698 users O_o
[14:59] <flan_suse> module000, wicd stores your passphrase in plaintext in a global file, accessible by anyone.
[14:59] <hatchetman82> the more the merrier ?
[14:59] <WilliamC> boscop, how long have you been having this problem?
[14:59] <n8tuser> flan_suse-> i do not use those other gui tools, can you not do it manually in the /etc/network/interfaces  file?
[14:59] <lazarus> i am on an acer aspire 5315 when i installed karmic processor overheat and caused pc to shut off
[14:59] <boscop> WilliamC: what can I do? if I reinstall it, I delete all my configs
[14:59] <module000> flan_suse: odd, mine does not, it's sha2'd
[15:00] <Consty> When upgrading to ubuntu server 9.10 from 9.04, if I closed do-release-upgrade before it finished, can I simply re-run it again, or will it attempt to upgrade to the next version of xubuntu in development?
[15:00] <boscop> WilliamC: it has been slow since installation
[15:00] <flan_suse> module000, what version of wicd?
[15:00] <hatchetman82> is there  a way to bind a mouse key to a different key-combo depending on which application has mouse focus ?
[15:00] <dios_mio> my wired icon looks like the plug is pulled? how come?
[15:00] <Scuttle> is there a way to completely reinstall my sound? I tried installed XBMC, and for some reason, Ubuntu no longer think I have a soundcard
[15:00] <ActionParsnip1> Consty: you may have to run: sudo apt-et -f install
[15:00] <module000> flan_suse: 1.5.9
[15:00] <brotkasten> is anyone experiencing random crashes with the new release 9.10 ? Gnome just randomly crashed and I found myself in the login screen. I checked /var/log/messages and found only one thing about pid.c and pulseaudio
[15:00] <hatchetman82> (like having the tile wheel issue shift+tab to firefox and alt+left to nautilus)
[15:00] <SurfyDudee> Younder how do i do a source install
[15:00] <gburton> i think we should split the channel... everybody, to #ubuntu-network or #ubuntu-hardware!
[15:00] <WilliamC> boscop, it really should never behave like that.
[15:00] <prv> hi all.
[15:00] <module000> flan_suse: i had endless troubles with wifi in networkmanager though, that's what prompted the switch
[15:00] <carresmd> when will they replace the damn keyserver, it constantly down!!
[15:00] <da651> Boinc-Rosetta I should say
[15:00] <flan_suse> module000, I've tried the latest version of wicd, and it's still stored in the wireless.conf file, unhashed.
[15:00] <Consty> ActionParsnip1: Would the command fail if it didn't work? Because I reran it a second time and it seems to be doing it, but have no idea what version it's upgrading to
[15:01] <Guest925> when trying to upgrade form 9.04 to 9.10, will not update dkms, fakeroot and lupin-support.  keeps asking for cd "Ubuntu 9.10 _Karmic Koala_ - Release i386 (20091028.5)" which i never had.  i cant even find that cd image. can someone assist please
[15:01] <SurfyDudee> Can anyone tell me how to do a source install of an rom driver
[15:01] <SurfyDudee> rpm*
[15:01] <module000> flan_suse: what flags are you compiling with? that should not be default behavior
[15:01] <ActionParsnip1> carresmd: use  pgp.mit.edu  instead
[15:01] <DJones> !rpm | SurfyDudee
[15:01] <boscop> WilliamC: I thought linux handles resources better than windows. but apparently, it does not so good
[15:01] <ActionParsnip1> Consty: it should hopefully resume the install and fix stuff
[15:01] <conb123> Will the ubuntu karmic iso still work if i burn it to a dvd-rw?
[15:01] <gburton> boscop: stop complaining, its freeeee!
[15:01] <Consty> ActionParsnip1: Haha, guess I'll test it then
[15:01] <carresmd> ActionParsnip1, but I want to publish my keys to keyserver.ubuntu.com so I can use it in launchpad.. :-(
[15:01] <merl15> hi. I'm on Karmic and I just tried installing grip, the CD ripping software, and it's not in the repositories, though it was in previous versions of Ubuntu, apparently. I noticed that some other software that should be available and was in earlier ubuntu releases isn't anymore. Can anyone explain why that is? Have the packages perhaps just not been added to the repositories yet?
[15:02] <brotkasten> Consty: 99.5% yes :)
[15:02] <boscop> gburton: that's why I still use it
[15:02] <gburton> if i gave you free ice cream would you complain that it didnt have enough chocolate chips?
[15:02] <ActionParsnip1> carresmd: they rsync between each other
[15:02] <boscop> gburton: and I love it, but I just wish it would be faster :(
[15:02] <brotkasten> conb123: 99.5% yes
[15:02] <brotkasten> Consty: sorry ... wrong nick :)
[15:02] <Plugh> merl15, I was looking for grip too and found it missing.
[15:02] <WilliamC> merl15, have you checked your sources?
[15:02] <carresmd> ActionParsnip1, ok. I'll try that, thanks
[15:02] <gburton> you said your CPU was maxed out, that tells me you have a problem.
[15:02] <gburton> my cpu is at 4% right now
[15:02] <flan_suse> module000, not compiling. Binary .deb from the wicd ppa.
[15:02] <ActionParsnip1> boscop: try a different distribution then, maybe ubuntu isnt for you
[15:02] <conb123> brotkasten: Brilliant thanks
[15:02] <boscop> WilliamC: would it help to install the other 1 GB ram I have outside?
[15:03] <module000> flan_suse: hrm..i don't haev any advice there, i don't know what flags they use in their binary offerings
[15:03] <merl15> Plugh, oh :(
[15:03] <WilliamC> boscop, I have 512 MB of RAM and a slower processor and don't have that problem.
[15:03] <boscop> ActionParsnip1: but everyone suggests their distro only, I don't know what's right for me
[15:03] <merl15> WilliamC, yes, what about them?
[15:03] <ActionParsnip1> boscop: you just need to try some to see what you like
[15:03] <boscop> WilliamC: can you play games fast enough?
[15:04] <module000> flan_suse: back to network manager...have you tried destroying it's local settings and restarting it?  maybe there are some conflicting preferences saved causing adverse behavior
[15:04] <tMx> whats the best game in linux ?
[15:04] <da651> you wont get better than ubuntu unless your running non gui
[15:04] <mnass> does any skype binarypackage works on 9.04?
[15:04] <WilliamC> boscop, yes.
[15:04] <leleobhz> packages.ubuntu is down?
[15:04] <snellcode> tMx: alien arena
[15:04] <boscop> ActionParsnip1: actually, I want a working system, not having to transfer my data all the time and reconfiguring all stuff
[15:04] <fasta> boscop, you seem to have the idea that there is a difference between distributions. I have news for you. There isn't any interesting difference between them.
[15:04] <tMx> k
[15:04] <ActionParsnip1> tMx: frets on fire imho. There is no best
[15:04] <erUSUL> !best | tMx
[15:04] <squidly> mnass: I have skype working in 9.04 xubuntu
[15:04] <da651> non, gui go Debian everytime, superb
[15:04] <san2345> intel grafics working any better on 9.10?
[15:04] <ActionParsnip1> tMx: penumbra is pretty cool too  (its paid for but the demo is free)
[15:04] <WilliamC> merl15, make sure you have all of the install sources checked so you can install all packages.
[15:04] <flan_suse> module000, in my home directory you mean?
[15:04] <mnass> wich packache do you use squidly
[15:04] <notfoo> Where does BitchX store its settings/config? ~/.BitchX ?
[15:05] <module000> flan_suse: yes, just a shot in the dark though
[15:05] <ActionParsnip1> boscop: then have a seperate home partition
[15:05] <merl15> WilliamC, yeah, they are all "checked"
[15:05] <flan_suse> module000, I did not have this problem on Ubuntu. It only gives me this issue on Xubuntu.
[15:05] <WilliamC> ActionParsnip1, I'm trying to play Penumbra in WINE and it doesn't work.
[15:05] <module000> flan_suse: does xubuntu also use network-manager by default?(i've never used it and don't know)
[15:05] <merl15> are some packages just not available in the karmic repositories yet?
[15:05] <fasta> boscop, you can replace the distro kernel with your own kernel if you want. You can install stuff from source if you want on all of them. They all have the same drivers. They sometimes have different package systems, but that's about it.
[15:05] <ActionParsnip1> WilliamC: theres a linux version, you dont need wine
[15:05] <dAlfa89_> WilliamC, why didn't you get the Linux version?
[15:05] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: i attempted to activate broadcom sta wireless driver and it wont let me
[15:06] <ActionParsnip1> WilliamC: its a native linux game
[15:06] <WilliamC> ActionParsnip1, I picked it up from the bargain bin, plus my laptop runs XP and that's my main computer.
[15:06] <Mike_lifeguard> How can I install firefox 3.0 in Karmic?
[15:06] <notfoo> sigh
[15:06] <Mike_lifeguard> The Karmic repositories only have 3.5 :\
[15:06] <schaze> Hi, I just noticed that the pydev package for eclipse is missing. Will that be added again to the repos for karmic?
[15:06] <da651> is there a online scabble available?
[15:06] <module000> flan_suse: check(or possibly destroy) /etc/NetworkManager settigns also
[15:06] <da651> scrabble even
[15:06] <Plugh> Marchingknight11: Which device do you have? I have karmic on a laptop with a Broadcom 4312. I just put the WiFi firmware files in place and was able to activate the broadcom sta drivers.
[15:07] <saji> Mike_lifeguard, I think you can use ubuntuzilla script to install older firefox versions..
[15:07] <ActionParsnip1> WilliamC: i see, yeah theres a native linux game
[15:07] <module000> flan_suse: some user-settings could be conflicting with some system-wide settings specified there
[15:07] <n8tuser> flan_suse-> is there like a /etc/wicd.conf file? or does /etc/NetworkManager/*.conf file?
[15:07] <crypto_> hey i need help
[15:07] <Marchingknight11> plugh:  Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[15:07] <Mike_lifeguard> saji: What is that?
[15:07] <dAlfa89_> !ask | crypto_
[15:07] <ActionParsnip1> WilliamC: http://www.gameupdates.org/details.php?id=2450
[15:07] <crypto_> sound comes from both the default and headphone speakers when headphones are plugged in
[15:07] <flan_suse> module000, I'll check them out.
[15:07] <gribouille> hi
[15:07] <[manas]> grawity, thanks works good
[15:07] <san2345> ActionParsnip1, any codec pack for ubuntu?
[15:07] <flan_suse> n8tuser, what do you mean?
[15:07] <Plugh> Marchingknight11: ok, same device I have. Have you run the process to extract the WiFi firmware?
[15:07] <bibekdai> .
[15:07] <gribouille> my windows system has wiped out grub. what can I do ?
[15:08] <saji> Mike_lifeguard, Its a pyhton script available for install via synaptic itself...
[15:08] <n8tuser> Plugh-> curious where did you put that firmware file? at /lib/firmware?
[15:08] <san2345> ActionParsnip1, i need to play avi mkv flv etc.
[15:08] <module000> san2345: you mean codecs for mp3/divx etc?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip1> !codec | san2345
[15:08] <Flynsarmy> How do i get the update manager appearing in my system tray when there are updates like in previous versions? (on karmic)
[15:08] <san2345> yup
[15:08] <Marchingknight11> plugh: how do i do that
[15:08] <crypto_> Sound comes from both the notebooks default speakers and the headphones when the jack is put in
[15:08] <crypto_> can anyone help
[15:08] <n8tuser> flan_suse-> is there like a /etc/wicd.conf file? or does /etc/NetworkManager/*.conf file?  does these files exist?
[15:08] <rafa_nunes> I could access a cd driver over the Network, can I run some cd from there?
[15:08] <WilliamC> ActionParsnip1, shame the disk didn't come with both
[15:08] <crypto_> thanks in advance
[15:08] <dios_mio> my wired icon looks like the plug is pulled? how come?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip1> WilliamC: i'm suprised too
[15:08] <Shockrates> hi how to i change the encoding of a txt with kate?
[15:08] <flan_suse> n8tuser, it's a per-user setting, so the nm settings are in ~/ for me.
[15:08] <n8tuser> rafa_nunes-> what do you mean? can you elaborate a little bit?
[15:08] <WilliamC> ActionParsnip1, maybe it does and I just wasn't looking
[15:08] <Mike_lifeguard> saji: I don't see it.
[15:08] <saji> Mike_lifeguard, You can use it to compile your own Firefox any version, usually newest version, but you can use it for installing older versions too...
[15:09] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: what ubuntu you have
[15:09] <brotkasten> crypto_: remove them and put them in again
[15:09] <ubuntu_giant> First of all 9.10 is awesome!  It boots really quickly.
[15:09] <ubuntu_giant> However, recently (near the end of 9.04), my wireless stopped working (wireless is "Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)").  I tried downloading the driver via the instructions on the Atheros site, but nothing worked.
[15:09] <ubuntu_giant> Any ideas?  Thanks.
[15:09] <FloodBot2> ubuntu_giant: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:09] <bratiz> hey
[15:09] <boscop> WilliamC: could it be that my graphic card is bad?
[15:09] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: 9.10 just installed last night
[15:09] <brotkasten> crypto_: i have the same problem, when waking up from suspend mode
[15:09] <WilliamC> boscop, is the driver installed?
[15:09] <rafa_nunes> n8tuser: I'm trying to do a fresh install 9.10, but I does not have a cd driver in my computer.
[15:09] <n8tuser> flan_suse-> i doubt it, a nic or managing a nic is a system resource, not a per user kind of thing, thats why one has to sudo or have root priviledge to modify such
[15:09] <crypto_> still the same problem
[15:09] <crypto_> i put it in the sound coming from both
[15:10] <ais523> Shockrates: File|Save As..., and choose a different encoding from the dropdown at the bottom
[15:10] <brotkasten> crypto_: usually unplugging and plugging in again works for me
[15:10] <Flynsarmy> the update manager doesnt even appear when there are updates in karmic. its ridiculous. isn't there a better way?
[15:10] <crypto_> headphone and default speakers
[15:10] <Mike_lifeguard> saji: Yes, but I would need the script itself first :)
[15:10] <crypto_> doesnt work
[15:10] <crypto_> :(
[15:10] <th1> can any1 post the link to that ext4 large files bug?
[15:10] <brotkasten> crypto_: mhhh ... strange ...
[15:10] <n8tuser> rafa_nunes-> and you are trying to do what now? pxe install or network install?
[15:10] <boscop> WilliamC: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[15:10] <Plugh> gribouille: Boot from a livecd and re-install grub from there would be one option
[15:10] <apostasiopoihmen> geiaaa
[15:10] <th1> I wanted to test it
[15:10] <crypto_> there was no sound in headphones at all in 9.04
[15:10] <apostasiopoihmen> kanas ellhnas?
[15:10] <WilliamC> boscop, that might be the problem, I'm not sure
[15:10] <dj_> hey guys when i right click on avi file i can creat rar file when i click on iso file i can not  creat rar file why is that can i rar .iso file
[15:10] <saji> Mike_lifeguard, Isn't 'UbuntuZilla' there is Synaptic Karmic repository?
[15:10] <rafa_nunes> n8tuser: I did the upgrade from 9.0.4 and a lot of things just stop. Can I access a cd driver in the network to start the fresh install?
[15:10] <MK13> how do I add an entry to the grub boot menu, i have noticed /boot/grub/menu.lst is missing in 9.10 and the only thing that looks similar is /boot/grub/grub.cfg which says not to edit it?
[15:10] <crypto_> now there is sound but from both the speakers and headphones
[15:11] <disco_lemonade> how many in here PREFER CLI usage
[15:11] <Mike_lifeguard> th1: I thought I heard it was fixed? In any case, you probably want to try #ext4 on irc.oftc.net
[15:11] <boscop> WilliamC: how can I find out? I only know that my graphics card has 32 MB
[15:11] <Plugh> n8tuser: IIRC, it was /lib/firmware. I'd have to turn on the laptop to check.
[15:11] <MK13> disco_lemonade, me
[15:11] <disco_lemonade> cuz i definitely do
[15:11] <WilliamC> boscop, I don't know
[15:11] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: i did two clean installs on two different laptops 9.10 32-bit, 9.10 64-bit, both use broadcom cards 4312,4318 and the b43 driver works for them,  i can't figure this one out
[15:11] <disco_lemonade> nice MK13
[15:11] <Mike_lifeguard> saji: No, it is not there.
[15:11] <Marchingknight11> plugh: how do i run the process you told me to run?
[15:11] <th1> Mike_lifeguard, I was referring to the one on launchpad I don't think it's fixed
[15:11] <disco_lemonade> I feel so awesome when I use command line
[15:11] <MK13> disco_lemonade, but then again i am used to freebsd now XD
[15:11] <th1> Mike_lifeguard, but also not confirmed hence I wanted to test it
[15:11] <brotkasten> crypto_: what are your mixer settings, right click on mixer "sound preferences" ... then "Output" Tab
[15:11] <Plugh> Marchingknight11: I'm looking for the infromation. I found a web site that told me how to do it.
[15:11] <Mike_lifeguard> ah
[15:11] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: that's fine  thanls for trying
[15:11] <Mike_lifeguard> th1: well, I have no info for you then
[15:12] <disco_lemonade> MK13: OH NO! haha cool man...i've been using Arch and a little Gentoo
[15:12] <brotkasten> crypto_: what connector?
[15:12] <th1> Mike_lifeguard, np I'll try to find it from google
[15:12] <Marchingknight11> plugh: thanks I'll loook around too
[15:12] <saji> Mike_lifeguard, Just a minute..
[15:12] <crypto_> internal audio analog stereo
[15:12] <crypto_> Its my headphone 3.5 mm jack
[15:12] <MK13> how do i add boot entries to the grub menu?
[15:12] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: np
[15:12] <notfoo> Where does BitchX store its settings/config? ~/.BitchX ?
[15:12] <apostasiopoihmen> kanas ellhnas??
[15:12] <crypto_> i got one more option
[15:12] <Plugh> Marchingknight11: I don't think it was the page I used but this may help --> http://my.opera.com/e-mak/blog/configuring-a-builtin-broadcom-4312-wireless-card-on-hp-pavilion-dv6059ea
[15:13] <crypto_> r700 audio device Radeon HD 4000 series digital stereo(HDMI)
[15:13] <brotkasten> crypto_: try it
[15:13] <crypto_> but the first one is selected
[15:13] <crypto_> no sound comes if i select the ATI one
[15:13] <MK13> Marchingknight11, what are you trying to do?
[15:13] <IHS_Volunteer> disco_lemonade, some things, like IRC, and system maintenance are better in the CLI.  I am having some problems with my microphone. It doesn't work . Can anyone help ?
[15:13] <brotkasten> crypto_: hdmi ... sorry
[15:13] <th1> Mike_lifeguard, found it from googling launchpad karmic ext4 corruption md5summd5sum: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/linux/+bug/453579
[15:13] <brotkasten> crypto_: yes ... mhhh
[15:13] <brotkasten> crypto_: and you mixer settings?
[15:14] <Marchingknight11> MK13: I upgraded to 9.10 yesterday and my wireless driver seems to be missing.
[15:14] <dj_> hey guys can i rar an .iso file
[15:14] <Mike_lifeguard> th1: Yeah, not the bug I was thinking of
[15:14] <djk> Just did apt-get dist-upgrade on a server, rebooted  but /etc/issue still show 9.04 instead of 9.10
[15:14] <IHS_Volunteer> wait, ext4 is still corrupting things? That hasn't been fixed yet? D:
[15:14] <ph33r> is anyone running karmic with intel video drivers ? I had memory leaks till I went back to older intel drivers in jaunty, just wanted to check f anyone faced any problems in karmic
[15:14] <MK13> Marchingknight11, i am guessing you have a broadcom?
[15:14] <crypto_> where are my mixer settings
[15:14] <crypto_> ??
[15:14] <squidly> dj_: you can
[15:14] <ubuntu_giant> Anybody having trouble with Atheros wireless drivers lately?
[15:14] <patrickT> type in console alsamixer
[15:14] <squidly> crypto_: alsamixer in the console
[15:14] <u0ath1> Mike_lifeguard: When I raise the mic levels manually all I get is static ;  (
[15:15] <Marchingknight11> mk13: yes. the lspci is Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[15:15] <dj_> squidly: how when i right click on .avi files i see add archive, but when i click on .iso file i dont see add archive
[15:15] <IHS_Volunteer> ubuntu_giant, on 64bit? yes. on 32bit? occasional freezing.
[15:15] <saji> Mike_lifeguard, Download it from-    http://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntuzilla/
[15:15] <disco_lemonade> is anyone having any MAJOR issues with Karmic?
[15:15] <ubuntu_giant> IHS_Volunteer: On 32-bit, my wireless is completely gone.
[15:15] <crypto_> it gave me some options
[15:15] <MK13> Marchingknight11, have you tried running "sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter"?
[15:15] <crypto_> master PCM
[15:15] <crypto_> etc etc
[15:15] <squidly> dj_: why do you need to rar it?
[15:15] <hanasaki> how do I set up a vnc server that will prompt with gdm?
[15:15] <crypto_> where to go
[15:15] <FloodBot2> crypto_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:15] <IHS_Volunteer> ubuntu_giant, odd. I don't have that problem on 9.04.
[15:16] <dj_> squidly: becaul i want it you know how to do it or no and stop asking stupid questions
[15:16] <squidly> dj_: ok open up a terminal and type man rar
[15:16] <Travis-42> Ubuntu has a lot of groups created by default (with no user):q: backup, operator, list, irc, tape
[15:16] <Marchingknight11> mk13: do i have to reboot now or anything?
[15:16] <Travis-42> are they used for anything?
[15:16] <crypto_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/305135/ have a look please
[15:16] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: b43-fwcutter is the same as enabling the b43 driver in Hardware Drivers      installing bcmwl-kernel-source is the same as enabling the STA driver
[15:16] <brotkasten> crypto_: sorry ... had to go for a sec
[15:17] <crypto_> no problem
[15:17] <edgy> Hi, how can I upgrade my old karmic-dvd-i386 to the stable version, please, using rsync?
[15:17] <crypto_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/305135/ have a look please
[15:17] <squidly> dj_: typically linux files are "rared" with things like tar and gz
[15:17] <MK13> Marchingknight11, yea, try restarting to see if wlan0 then shows up for iwconfig
[15:17] <IHS_Volunteer> Karmic's installer sure is nice.
[15:17] <squidly> to make a tarball tar -zxcf filename.tar.gz $path_to_files_to_include
[15:17] <naser67> hi to all
[15:17] <Plugh> bbl...
[15:17] <u0ath1> http://bit.ly/1hCEfs  my problem
[15:17] <dj_> squidly: but how can i do it just like an avi when i rigth click i can rar it why i must use command line on terminal
[15:17] <squidly> dj_:
[15:18] <squidly> http://coderstalk.blogspot.com/2008/03/create-and-extract-rar-files-in-linux.html
[15:18] <naser67> i'm using xampp 1.7.1 and i wanna install apc extension on it
[15:18] <coordinador> Hi, how can i open docx in openoffice?
[15:18] <squidly> dj_: because it's not an options when you right click.
[15:18] <naser67> what should i do?
[15:18] <soeren> hi folk
[15:19] <maehze> hi. i got a problem.... i use an upgraded karmic. if i want to install grub2, apt-get says that it wants to remove grub(1) ... but i want to install grub2 and grub1, so i can test it with a chainload
[15:19] <Bodsda> squidly: you could have a nautilus script to do it
[15:19] <t00r> hi @ll
[15:19] <dj_> squidly: why i dont see any example on google
[15:19] <brotkasten> crypto_: mhhh looks good to me
[15:19] <squidly> Bodsda: I dont use nautilus
[15:19] <brotkasten> crypto_: just like mine
[15:19] <crypto_> so why is the sound isnt coming only from the speakers
[15:19] <crypto_> I mean headphones
[15:19] <dj_> squidly: why i dont see any example on google
[15:19] <Bodsda> squidly: fair enough
[15:19] <crypto_> i have a dv6-1161Tx
[15:20] <squidly> dj_: i gave you and example of how to do it via the cli.
[15:20] <squidly> hold one sec let me get you a link
[15:20] <Marchingknight11> mk13: after rebooting it still shows no wireless option
[15:20] <module000> maehze: grub2 is a different beast, i went through that last night
[15:20] <brotkasten> crypto_: instead you have no headphones in your mixer
[15:20] <soeren> Can someone help me with nvidia grafik drivers? Maybe private chat?
[15:20] <Marchingknight11> I'm going to try the other driver
[15:20] <ccooke> Hi. Anyone seen a grub error? It's refusing to boot because it can't find the UUID... but the UUID is correct and if I tell it not to look for UUID, it works.
[15:20] <brotkasten> *except
[15:20] <dj_> squidly i see man rar but it does not help i need example of creating volumes
[15:20] <squidly> dj_: http://tinyurl.com/yfyssyq
[15:20] <brotkasten> crypto_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305140/
[15:20] <brotkasten> crypto_: this is mine
[15:20] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: you on a laptop?
[15:21] <maehze> did u manage it to load grub2 via grub ?
[15:21] <MK13> Marchingknight11, is the device turned on (sorry, trying to be thorough)
[15:21] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: yea a dell vostro 2510
[15:21] <crypto_> so what should i do brot
[15:21] <Marchingknight11> mk13: yes it is turned on
[15:21] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: make sure the wireless button is on (and lit)
[15:21] <crypto_> how to get the settings same as yours
[15:21] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: o ok
[15:21] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: the switch is on, but the light is not lit
[15:21] <blizzkid> grmbl flash is broken after installing ureadahead
[15:21] <ccooke> There seems to be a few people with the UUID problem online, but I've not found a single solution yet :-/
[15:22] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: press it again
[15:22] <dj_> squidly your link does not help again
[15:22] <Mike_lifeguard> If I download the required .deb packages from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/ppa/+build/1312134 could I install them on Karmic even though they're for Jaunty?
[15:22] <slacker_nl> anyone here with an iso of the alternate CD?
[15:22] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: no luck
[15:22] <ptn107> Marchingknight11: gahh
[15:22] <MK13> Marchingknight11, what driver did you use before the one that shows up system>admin>hardware driver
[15:22] <bibekdai> why is there no /etc/grub/menu.lst file in karmic ?
[15:22] <hopper_irc> how to update release 9.04 to 9.10
[15:22] <Marchingknight11> ptn107: the bluetooth light is on but the wifi is not
[15:22] <squidly> bibekdai: because 9.10 went to grub2
[15:22] <dj_> squidly your link does not help again
[15:22] <daleharvey> !grub2
[15:22] <Marchingknight11> mk13: the other driver option is broadcom sta wireless driver
[15:22] <ais523> hopper_irc: System | Update Manager should give you a button to update
[15:23] <bibekdai> ok, thanks
[15:23] <merl15> so, can anyone recommend a GUI CD audio ripping software? Grip and sound-juicer are not available for me in the repositories for some reason..
[15:23] <ActionParsnip1> bibekdai: its grub2 now
[15:23] <brotkasten> crypto_: maybe you have a wrong sounddriver ?
[15:23] <squidly> dj_: I will help those willing to help them selfs
[15:23] <hopper_irc> hmm
[15:23] <maehze> squidly: not if u upgraded it
[15:23] <bthomson> guys, how to get back the logout menu in upper right corner in 9.10?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip1> !info grip
[15:23] <Bodsda> slacker_nl: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate
[15:23] <gburton> i dont know why people upgrade their OSES, i find that something always breaks.
[15:23] <brotkasten> crypto_: did you check alsa drivers for your card ?
[15:23] <dj_> squidly i asked you how to rar iso file
[15:23] <brotkasten> crypto_: lspci ?
[15:23] <wolfgang> Wo ist hier eine schoene Frau, die deutsch sprechen kann?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip1> merl15: nautilus can rip CDs
[15:23] <brotkasten> hier
[15:23] <dj_> ok your link you gave its worthless
[15:23] <gburton> wolfgang: nobody, we all speak english
[15:23] <ActionParsnip1> !de | wolfgang
[15:23] <Flynsarmy> How do i get the update manager appearing in my system tray when there are updates like in previous versions? (on karmic)
[15:23] <module000> maehze: when you upgrade it doesn't ugprade to grub2, but you can remove grub1 and replace pretty painlessly
[15:23] <maehze> wolfgang: das hier ist keine date-platform
[15:23] <brotkasten> haha :)
[15:24] <merl15> ActionParsnip1, to different audio formats?
[15:24] <crypto_> so how to get a correct sound driver
[15:24] <brotkasten> what does lspci tell you?
[15:24] <blizzkid> und, Deutsch ist eine blöde Sprache!
[15:24] <t00r> I have a problem, I have to order some ubuntu-cd for my student-comitee to make in install party and when I log in shipit, it says I actually receive some cd
[15:24] <ActionParsnip1> merl15: i believe there are settings in nautilus some place
[15:24] <module000> maehze: if you 'sudo apt-get install grub-pc' and it installs grub2, removes grub1, then issue 'grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg && grub-install /dev/sda(or your primary device)', that will do it
[15:24] <brotkasten> crypto_: what audio device ?
[15:24] <squidly> dj_: I told you to go to the cli and look up how to do it that way.. that would do what you need. You said "how can I right click it". I dont use Nautilus so I dont know.. thus the link to lmgtfy
[15:24] <t00r> what can I do to get some cd's?
[15:24] <brotkasten> crypto_: and what does lsmod say?
[15:24] <Bodsda> t00r: shipit, or download them
[15:24] <ActionParsnip1> !shippit | t00r
[15:24] <mr-dedup> where are my C header files to match my running kernel?  I seem to be able to find all kernels except my rinning kernel
[15:24] <ewb> get a mac
[15:25] <maehze> apt-get install grub2 -> will be removed:  grub
[15:25] <maehze> will be installed:  grub-pc grub2
[15:25] <ActionParsnip1> ewb: sure if you pay for it
[15:25] <Skaperen> anyone know where to get OFFICIAL MD5 checksums of the ISOs?
[15:25] <eduard> i have a question the question is how do i use compiz to show me both ubuntu and windows?
[15:25] <ewb> get a job
[15:25] <ERNANDES> no
[15:25] <brahmana|web> anyone knows of a machine/website which is currently down?
[15:25] <crypto_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/305144/ output of lsmod
[15:25] <ActionParsnip1> ewb: got one
[15:25] <blizzkid> ewb: ActionParsnip1 a Mac makes a fine machine to run Ubuntu :D
[15:25] <module000> maehze: that's what you want
[15:25] <ewb> brahmana|web: <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:25] <dj_> does anyone know how to rar iso file
[15:25] <jacquesdupontd> hi guys
[15:25] <ActionParsnip1> Skaperen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[15:25] <maehze> ok
[15:25] <kyentei> Hello everyone. I hope somebody can help me here. My Toshiba keeps freezing when it runs 9.10... I can't seem to find a solution either.
[15:25] <Skaperen> ActionParsnip1: thanks
[15:25] <jacquesdupontd> i update 9.04 to 9.10
[15:26] <ActionParsnip1> ewb: just that mac is appauling value for money
[15:26] <bazhang> !ot
[15:26] <ghostlines> is it possible to install 32 bit printer drivers on a 64 bit distro?
[15:26] <n8tuser> kyentei-> using livecd?
[15:26] <ERNANDES> seis sao tudo americanos
[15:26] <ewb> kyentei: probably hardware
[15:26] <maehze> but if i want to test it.... and load grub2 via grub1 in a chainload? don'tt i have to have grub1 installed?
[15:26] <kyentei> Livecd, live usb, installed. Everything works fine for a certain amount of time. 9.04 worked.
[15:26] <slango> is anyone using Ubuntu 9.10 in Parallels?
[15:26] <dj_> does anyone know how to rar iso file
[15:26] <ghostlines> i have the ia32-libs install but still no luck
[15:26] <t00r> Bodsda, ActionParsnip1  shipit doesnt let me order them and to give them to new users it's always better to have "original"-cd
[15:26] <dj_> does anyone know how to rar iso file
[15:26] <rwat> ok I've got an intel mac mini that just upgraded to karmic but has - init: sreadahead main process (2163) terminated with status 1
[15:26] <frostburn> how do you move guake to the top of the screen?
[15:26] <blizzkid> ActionParsnip1: the same old "value for money" FUD again? Dgee... try to make an equal PC that looks as sexy as a Max for the same money...
[15:26] <boscop> how can I disable the lock-screen after 10 minutes?
[15:26] <eduard> anone have a guide for using compiz the one from ubuntu gives me all kinda errors feels like im still using windows...
[15:27] <brotkasten> dj_: use 7zip
[15:27] <ERNANDES> responde?
[15:27] <n8tuser> dj_-> umm how would you normally rar a regular file? it should not any more different yes?
[15:27] <dj_> no i want rar
[15:27] <ActionParsnip1> blizzkid: i dont care aout looks, i want bang for buck. I also dislike vendor lockin
[15:27] <Pici> !rar | dj_
[15:27] <bratiz> dj_: yeah iz rar command is sudo apt-get install rar and rar a -v1000 ubucd.rar ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[15:27] <lazarus> kyentei, alot of peoples laptops including my own now on 9.4 after bad update it kept overheating and shutting off so i went back to 9.04
[15:27] <BlouBlou> boscop: system >> preferences >> screensaver
[15:27] <mr-dedup> does anyone know how to find the C headers that match my running kernel, I belive the app is looking for version.h, and I have several on my system, not sure which is correct and my /usr/src/"running kernel header dir" doesnt have the version.h file....what the hell?
[15:27] <jacquesdupontd> appart some problem of X and some little others it seems to have worken good, the thing is it has a weird boot like it's going into a console before it start but seems it's still starting ont 7th so i think all is ok for that, i come to you cause i don't know what ati drivers to install cause i just managed to install catalyst 9.10 that just went out and my card is working but really not as much as it should, so could anyon
[15:27] <jacquesdupontd> e help me with ati card driver and configuration on that new ubuntu 9.10 ?
[15:27] <erUSUL> mr-dedup: « sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) »
[15:28] <dj_> bratiz how can i rar iso file
[15:28] <brotkasten> dj_: 7zip can create rar archives
[15:28] <module000> maehze: you could, but i haven't tried that
[15:28] <bratiz> dj: its with that command i just showed
[15:28] <bratiz> or use other # than 1000 if u want differenet part size than 1 mb
[15:28] <Logan83> hei
[15:28] <blizzkid> ActionParsnip1: there's no vendor lockin with a Mac, you can perfectly run Ubuntu on it
[15:28] <torger> hello, I have windows 7 installed on my secondary drive and karmic on my primary drive, karmic boots fine but windows 7 will only boot when I directly boot the drive and not through grub2, grub2 says that there is no such device
[15:28] <ActionParsnip1> blizzkid: if you like looks over speed I can gut you an old dell and put it in a mac case so it "looks nice"
[15:28] <rafa_nunes> every laptop can boot from usb?
[15:29] <MoTec> dj_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=708398
[15:29] <ActionParsnip1> blizzkid: then you've paid double price for mac hardware
[15:29] <brahmana|web> ewb: that was smart. Thank you. I did not know about the reserved IPs
[15:29] <ewb> rafa_nunes: most
[15:29] <IHS_Volunteer> rafa_nunes, no.
[15:29] <ccooke> Anyone know about grub2 not being able to find parititions by UUID?
[15:29] <IHS_Volunteer> I have 3 laptops which can not boot from CD.
[15:29] <mr-dedup> erUSUL - "something is happening" stand by.....
[15:29] <IHS_Volunteer> Er, boot from USB
[15:29] <jacquesdupontd> and also something weird the update did not put my computer into grub 2
[15:29] <rafa_nunes> Uhn, that's what I tought
[15:29] <jacquesdupontd> ok I Repeat my self
[15:29] <ewb> brahmana|web: np
[15:29] <ActionParsnip1> IHS_Volunteer: got a usb stick free? you can install from USB
[15:29] <blizzkid> ActionParsnip1: I'd prefer a Mac over a Dell anytime. I refuse to work with companies that change their hardware in the same machine depending on the warranty you buy
[15:29] <jacquesdupontd> appart some problem of X and some little others it seems to have worken good, the thing is it has a weird boot like it's going into a console before it start but seems it's still starting ont 7th so i think all is ok for that, i come to you cause i don't know what ati drivers to install cause i just managed to install catalyst 9.10 that just went out and my card is working but really not as much as it should, so could anyon
[15:29] <jacquesdupontd> e help me with ati card driver and configuration on that new ubuntu 9.10 ?
[15:29] <bratiz> dj_: like rar a -v20000 ubucd.rar ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso for 20 mb partz
[15:30] <ahmedabdellatif> h need help
[15:30] <mikebeecham> hi there, I have an Audigy 4 soundcard, which is no longer recognised under Karmic, when it was with 9.04.  On top of that, whenever my sons play games on the machine, the sound is very crackly and intermittant.  Can anyone help?
[15:30] <MoTec> bratiz: nice gui for that cli challenged here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=708398
[15:30] <ActionParsnip1> blizzkid: i refuse to pay over the odds when I can get the same spec for nearly half the price
[15:30] <sipior> ActionParsnip1 blizzkid: gentlemen, this is not really the place for mac/pc dogfighting, i think.
[15:30] <IHS_Volunteer> ActionParsnip1, Maybe if the 3 laptops booted from USB. They don't boot from CD< either...busted CD-ROM drives that are of a particular and difficult to replace variety. I could buy an equivalent laptop for less than the CD-ROM drives :(
[15:30] <brotkasten> ccooke: did you try to use old fashion style (hdX,X) ?
[15:30] <lazarus> 9.10 sucks atm  including my own now on 9.4 after bad update it kept overheating and shutting off so i went back to 9.04
[15:31] <mikebeecham> My soundcard is labelled as an Internal Audio 1 Output device
[15:31] <IHS_Volunteer> 2 boot from the network though!
[15:31] <jacquesdupontd> me too
[15:31] <ActionParsnip1> IHS_Volunteer: do they have floppies you can boot from?
[15:31] <blizzkid> sipior: I agree, and also not the place to spread FUD of any kind
[15:31] <jacquesdupontd> in 9.10 i have some problems that freeze the desktop
[15:31] <docmax> i updated to 9.10... why do i still have grub1?
[15:31] <mr-dedup> erUSUL: ding dong the withc is dead, the witch is dead, ding dong the wicked witch is dead
[15:31] <jacquesdupontd> so nobody's here and could help me ?
[15:31] <kyentei> I guess I'll go ahead and install the netbook remix 9.10..
[15:31] <mr-dedup> thanks erUSUL
[15:31] <Pici> docmax: upgrades will not change the grub version
[15:31] <IHS_Volunteer> ActionParsnip1, 2 of them do. and 2 support netbooting. SO, I do have options.
[15:31] <kyentei> docmax: Grub1 remains unless you install it manuallly
[15:31] <erUSUL> mr-dedup: ;) no problem
[15:31] <m4t> hey, is anyone aware of a way to keep avahi from starting at boot? i tried adding exit to the scripts in /etc/networ/if-, commented out the 'start on' lines in /etc/init, modified symlinks in /etc/rc.N, etc.
[15:31] <H2O> Happy Britney Ubuntu ...............!!
[15:31] <docmax> jacquesdupontd, downgrade to 9.04
[15:31] <Flynsarmy> How do i get the update manager appearing in my system tray when there are updates like in previous versions? (on karmic)
[15:31] <ccooke> brotkasten: I haven't tried any direct intervention in grub yet. I can bot by manually removing search lines from the grub menu
[15:32] <jacquesdupontd> i have to find a blank cd to erase and install 9.10 from the beginning
[15:32] <jacquesdupontd> it's a brand new computer so i don't have so much things installed
[15:32] <bratiz> motec: is hard 2 use gui inside hacxked sever shell ;)
[15:32] <ActionParsnip1> IHS_Volunteer: you can get special floppy images that will allow you to then boot usb
[15:32] <docmax> kyentei, but new standard for 9.10 is grub2, right?
[15:32] <jacquesdupontd> seems the update sucks a lot
[15:32] <lazarus> you need to install from fresh to use ext4 and grub 2.0
[15:32] <Skaperen> OK, the mirror at host "mirrors.tera-byte.com" has bad ISOs ... MD5s are wrong from there
[15:32] <tMx> its ext3 oder ext4 better ?
[15:32] <merl15> ActionParsnip1, I can't find anything to do with audio ripping in Nautilus and Rhythmbox, which I've set to rip to flac crashes when I start the ripping process. Any other suggestions for what ripping program to use? :)
[15:32] <ccooke> brotkasten: basically, it does a search - for the right UUID - and fails to find it. At which point I can edit the search away and it works (With linux finding the partition by UUID correctly. Same uuid)
[15:32] <ActionParsnip1> IHS_Volunteer: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/use-a-floppy-to-boot-usb-pendrive-linux/
[15:32] <brotkasten> ccooke: i boot my windows partition using root (hd0,1);makeactive;chainloader +1
[15:32] <ActionParsnip1> !rip
[15:33] <brotkasten> ccooke: dont know if grub2 is capable of it, too
[15:33] <ewb> is it possible to use zune store on ubuntu
[15:33] <MoTec> bratiz: true.. i use cli myself (my ubuntu 'server' doesn't even have X installed) but it's looked usefull and i thought you might be interested :)
[15:33] <erUSUL> merl15: sound-juicer ? or  my old time favorite "grip"
[15:33] <ccooke> brotkasten: That looks like a grub1 config. I'm not trying to boot windows, here, either
[15:33] <tMx> its ext3 oder ext4 better ?
[15:33] <ccooke> grub2 is not booting linux
[15:33] <jacquesdupontd> lazarus, just a question it's working perfectly with windows seven i guess ?
[15:33] <madakralc> Anyone knows if there is a way to use XenCenter in ubuntu?
[15:33] <bratiz> it was only 4 dj_ who asked 4 it .. mayB he wants the gui command
[15:33] <tyrone> hi I just updated to 9.10 and for some reason my laptop speakers are popping every few seconds, even when the earphones are plugged in. Can someone help me?
[15:33] <brotkasten> ccooke: oh ... then i misunderstood
[15:34] <jacquesdupontd> ok i'm gonna repair myself and then come here to help everybody cause it seems there's a lot of people with problems that i can solve
[15:34] <sipior> Mx: in the vast majority of use cases, it will make very little difference which you choose.
[15:34] <jacquesdupontd> have to find that blank cd
[15:34] <labouti> htllo
[15:34] <lazarus> jacquesdupontd, 9.10 sucks atm  including my own now on 9.4 after bad update it kept overheating and shutting off so i went back to 9.04 any idea what that problem is
[15:35] <Logan1983> hello
[15:35] <slacker_nl> 9.10 doesn't suck
[15:35] <labouti> i'm in trouble installing ubuntu 9.10 on my macbook, someone did it before here ?
[15:35] <brotkasten> ccooke: menuentry "Chainload my OS" {
[15:35] <labouti> Mac os X snow leopard is fresh install, bootcamp worked well, rEFIT is ok i can boot either on the cd or the hd
[15:35] <th1> I wish the background in 9.10 was still that dark colour it has in the login screen by default
[15:36] <labouti> but when ubuntu comes, the screen goes dark
[15:36] <labouti> and then it ends
[15:36] <gondim> hi all, I have a problem in Server 9.10. the swap sometimes mount and sometimes not mount.
[15:36] <raid0> i need a download manager, compitable with flashgot, and rapidshare, with  "set maximum download speed' option. any ideas?
[15:36] <Logan1983> sarebbe fico trovare qualcuno che capisce una mazza
[15:36] <Logan1983> :D
[15:36] <brotkasten> ccooke: menuentry "Chainload my OS" { set root (hdX,X) ; chainloader +1 } ... this is what you are looking for?
[15:36] <merl15> erUSUL, I like grip a whole lot as well, but neither of them are available for me for some reason. I'm using all repositories too..
[15:36] <erUSUL> !info tucan
[15:36] <blizzkid> !it | Logan1983
[15:36] <ccooke> brotkasten: how will that stop grub from failing to find a partition by uuid?
[15:36] <Pici> !it | Logan1983
[15:36] <lazarus> slacker_nl,  it does if it doesent work
[15:36] <SvdB> Hi! After upgrading to 9.10, my desktop doesn't come up anymore. It does as soon as I manually start dbus. Any ideas why dbus isn't started?
[15:36] <merl15> erUSUL, I'm on karmic btw
[15:36] <erUSUL> merl15: still in jaunty...
[15:36] <erUSUL> !find grip
[15:36] <labouti> hum, well, no idea ?
[15:36] <brotkasten> ccooke: why is it so important to you to use the UUID instead of hdX,X notation if it works for you
[15:37] <n8tuser> gondim-> it mounts sometimes? what do you mean? how often are you shutting down your system or changing init level?
[15:37] <brotkasten> ccooke: this is my question ... sorry for ignoring the uuid thing
[15:37] <raid0> i need a download manager, compitable with flashgot, and rapidshare, with  "set maximum download speed' option. any ideas?
[15:37] <Kottisen> When I click "Activate" nothing happend, why? http://cdn.solidfiles.net/i/8b0c79b6b908c071babb0b896c6a77fc.png
[15:37] <erUSUL> raid0: tucan <<<
[15:37] <ccooke> brotkasten: I have a normal install of Ubuntu. Fresh this morning. *Ubuntu* configured grub2 to search for the grub root by uuid.
[15:37] <carresmd> ActionParsnip1, one problem... the keyservers don't 'rsync' when the damn keyserver.ubuntu.com is down :-(
[15:37] <ccooke> I have verified that is the correct uuid.
[15:37] <ccooke> It fails to find it.
[15:37] <gondim> n8tuser: hi, in shutdown ou reboot system
[15:37] <merl15> erUSUL, okay, thanks. Maybe the packages aren't in the karmic repositories yet..
[15:38] <ActionParsnip1> carresmd: true, could ask in #MOTU
[15:38] <raid0> erUSUL: tucan has gui?
[15:38] <n8tuser> gondim->  come again, im not understanding you..
[15:38] <carresmd> ActionParsnip1, there isn't anyone in #MOTU :-)
[15:38] <erUSUL> raid0: yes
[15:38] <ActionParsnip1> gah
[15:38] <DanaG> !shipit
[15:38] <LuYu> in jaunty, i cant type chinese into QT apps
[15:38] <LuYu> why is that?
[15:38] <brotkasten> ccooke: so it lists your windows 7 partition with uuid, right?
[15:39] <gondim> n8tuser: rebooting system sometimes the swap mount and other not
[15:39] <goodnight> !bug 453579
[15:39] <ccooke> brotkasten: why do you assume I want anything to do with windows? version 7 or any other?
[15:39] <goodnight> ext4 bug is real?
[15:39] <ccooke> I have not mentioned windows at all
[15:39] <jonathan__> Does anyone know if the version of rapidSVN in the 9.10 repos is broken.  I keep getting an error whenever I try to do a check out
[15:39] <SvdB> Is rcconf still relevant with upstart?
[15:39] <gondim> n8tuser: I´m using LVM
[15:39] <n8tuser> gondim-> and how are you verifying these?
[15:39] <jacquesdupontd> lazarus, are you sure it sucks ?
[15:39] <th1> goodnight, i'm testing it now on several machines
[15:40] <gondim> n8tuser: free command
[15:40] <jacquesdupontd> lazarus, for me atm it sucks but i think with a fresh install should work ok they couldn't put something that sucks like that
[15:40] <ccooke> I am attempting to boot ubuntu, but this is only possible every other reboot, and then by editing the grub menu entry
[15:40] <Mist__> So.. how does Karmic seem this far? :)
[15:40] <gondim> Swap:   0    0     0
[15:40] <sin7ax> Q: In Karmic I have mounted windows shares through double clicking them in nautilus
[15:40] <brotkasten> ccooke: haha ... then i answered a totally different question SORRY :P I thought you were the guy who had problems to dual boot his windows 7
[15:40] <jacquesdupontd> everybody saying that it sucks Mike_LaMar
[15:40] <jacquesdupontd> Mist__,
[15:40] <ActionParsnip1> Mist__: s'ok
[15:40] <gondim> n8tuser: Swap:    0   0    0
[15:40] <ccooke> brotkasten: heh
[15:40] <sin7ax> but my /mnt folder is empty??
[15:40] <lazarus> it may be the case of a fresh install for now i'll stay on 9.4
[15:40] <jacquesdupontd> im searching a blank cd to do a fresh install but, Ubuntu is still real s.... to do directe update
[15:41] <sin7ax> how do i mount the smb/win share so i can access it through the cli?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip1> sin7ax: you can see where stuff is mounted if you run: mount
[15:41] <carresmd> ActionParsnip1, do the MOTU guys run the keyserver then?
[15:41] <Mist__> Pretty good statements considering how it was back at 7.x :P
[15:41] <ccooke> no, I'm trying to find out why grub2 (apprantely dreduncantly) searches for its root partition by the correct UUID and fails to find it
[15:41] <Pici> sin7ax: It mounts them using gvfs, so you'd need to look in ~/.gvfs
[15:41] <n8tuser> gondim-> i dont think that meant it is not mounted, use  mount to see what are mounted
[15:41] <ActionParsnip1> carresmd: i'd think they'd know who if its not them
[15:41] <CSWookie> I'm currently running hardy.  I want to get svn 1.6.5, which is in karmic.  Could I just change my sources.list, apt-get update, apt-get install subversion and be ok until this weekend, when I'll have time to do a proper distribution upgrade?
[15:41] <BoredKender> after upgrading to karmic my speakers keep popping, even on mute. has anyone found a fix for this?
[15:41] <kevin009> i just nuked my ext4 installation and reinstalled with ext3 to avoid that data bug
[15:41] <blizzkid> CSWookie: no
[15:42] <GHRockerTaps09> hello. I just downliaded 9.10, and I am wondering how to get support for my Linksys WMP45G Wireless Card.
[15:42] <brotkasten> ccooke: ok ... sorry for that. don't know ... but as long as it fails ... my recommendation would be to use the old fashion style and put your partition numbers instead of uuids
[15:42] <CSWookie> blizzkid: I was afraid someone would say that.
[15:42] <ccooke> Ugh. I am also typing on my Dad's keyboard, which is horrible. (It's his system - I'm upgrading it since I'm up atm)
[15:42] <brotkasten> ccooke: same thing
[15:42] <ActionParsnip1> sin7ax: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255872&highlight=Permanently+mount+samba+share
[15:42] <th1> kevin009, its not for sure it is an ext4 bug yet
[15:42] <carresmd> ActionParsnip1, it was #ubuntu-motu ;-)
[15:42] <th1> kevin009, there are manuy other things it could be
[15:42] <ccooke> brotkasten: that is not an option
[15:42] <blizzkid> CSWookie: you can install svn from source though
[15:42] <ActionParsnip1> carresmd: ahh i see
[15:42] <carresmd> ActionParsnip1, thanks anyway :-)
[15:42] <module000> BoredKender: tried tweaking pulseaudio?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip1> np :D
[15:42] <n8tuser> GHRockerTaps09-> try to boot from livecd and see if it works first
[15:42] <CSWookie> blizzkid: Yeah, I was hoping to avoide that.  However, it's looking like that's what I'm gonna do.
[15:43] <gondim> n8tuser: rebooting and now free show me: Swap:     2625528      0   2625528
[15:43] <ccooke> brotkasten: linux can boot and find things by uuid. grub already *does* find its root by the old-style hd0,x
[15:43] <GHRockerTaps09> where can i get livecd for 9.10?
[15:43] <kevin009> i have another box where I installed 9.04 with ext4 and upgraded it to 9.10 rc and i don't think it has the problem
[15:43] <dual> I upgraded to 9.10 today, but now my mouse lags when I preform keyboard shortcuts like ctrl+c and such. Any ideas why?
[15:43] <GHRockerTaps09> the one that was released today
[15:43] <blizzkid> GHRockerTaps09: www.ubuntu.com
[15:43] <th1> GHRockerTaps09, www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu
[15:43] <ActionParsnip1> !downloads | GHRockerTaps09
[15:43] <CSWookie> I suppose in that case I will once again avoid distribution upgrade.
[15:43] <GHRockerTaps09> thanks
[15:43] <ActionParsnip1> !download
[15:43] <ccooke> but grub *ALSO* searches by uuid and fails. and I can't see a way to disable that that won't be overwritten by an update... which means the computer becomes a time bomb that'll summon me back up here to fix it.
[15:44] <sin7ax> Ok, i found them in ~/.gvfs  --> if i want to mount foo to /mnt/t what's the command??
[15:44] <ccooke> What's more, I can't see where this search is even coming from in the config
[15:44] <xukun_> do I install the nvidia 185 driver version or the 190 driver version. I have nvida 9400 onboard gpu
[15:44] <LuYu> in 9.04, i cant get SCIM to work with QT apps
[15:44] <ActionParsnip1> sin7ax: you could symlink the folder
[15:44] <LuYu> why is this?
[15:44] <Guest80925> hey guys, I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 on a virtual machine (virtualbox) on a mac 10.6 (snow leopard) host and I'm trying to share files from my host to Ubuntu. can someone help me out?
[15:44] <LuYu> is it a bug or a missing package?
[15:44] <sin7ax> symlink?
[15:44] <ActionParsnip1> xukun_: the 185 is the newest stable, 190 is beta
[15:44] <CVirus> I just installed amarok on ubuntu and mp3 is not working while I have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed .. what could be wrong ?
[15:45] <xukun_> ActionParsnip1, stable it is
[15:45] <jacquesdupontd> if i had to make a difference between this 9.10 (updated from 9.04 that's maybe why itsucks) and Windows Seven i know that i would choose Windows Seven but would prefer to be on ubuntu, hope fresh install will do the trick even if i don't know what could have been wrong i already made 6 updates since i'm on ubuntu 6.10
[15:45] <ActionParsnip1> sin7ax: yeah it will make a "folder" that links to the folder in ~/.gvfs
[15:45] <sin7ax> do i need to know the inode in order to do that?
[15:45] <ActionParsnip1> sin7ax: the OS will think the link is a folder but its just a link
[15:46] <sin7ax> ActionParsnip: what's the command?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip1> sin7ax: no, just run: sudo ln -s ~/.gvfs/what/ever /mnt/whatever
[15:46] <szeck> Hi guys i have updated to KArmic and i cant' load the os? Anyone can help?
[15:46] <sin7ax> awesome
[15:46] <sin7ax> thanks
[15:46] <brotkasten> ccooke: i know that you can use UUIDs and I know ubuntu does ... but if it does not work for you at the moment i suggest to use a workaround until you find the problem
[15:46] <AceKing> How do I create a file in a folder that requires root privileges?
[15:46] <brotkasten> ccooke: 1st aid so to speak
[15:46] <n8tuser> gondim-> has it affected your system or not?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip1> sin7ax: its really handy if you have USB drives and you want a folder for it in ~
[15:46] <szeck> Hi guys i have just updated to KArmic and i cant' load the os! Anyone can help?
[15:47] <dual> Anyone else experiencing mouse lag in 9.10?
[15:47] <Guest80925> hey guys, I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 on a virtual machine (virtualbox) on a mac 10.6 (snow leopard) host and I'm trying to share files from my host to Ubuntu. can someone help me out? I installed the guest addons and even restarted my virtual pc, but i just cant seem to get it to show up. mounting isn't working, either
[15:47] <AceKing> dual, I am noticing a lag also
[15:47] <szeck> Hi guys i have just updated to KArmic and i cant' load the os! Anyone can help?
[15:47] <nameless`> Guest80925, !!
[15:47] <th1> CVirus, sudo aptitude install phonon-backend-xine libxine1-ffmpeg
[15:47] <nameless`> Guest80925, help me please :)
[15:47] <th1> CVirus, and see bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/351319
[15:48] <dual> AceKing, intel & nvidia?
[15:48] <ActionParsnip1> Guest80925: you can setup folders that appear as devices in the virtualbox
[15:48] <gondim> n8tuser: swap is a logical volume. Cn this be?
[15:48] <AceKing> dual, nvidia
[15:48] <gondim> n8tuser: swap is a logical volume. Can this be?
[15:48] <nameless`> Guest80925, i have rEFIT installed, but i can't boot on the live cd, when i start the "install without hurting your computer", the screen goes dark and it stops
[15:48] <m4t> is there a way to get a samba (cifs) 'gvfs' mount to be persistent through multiple logins/boots?
[15:48] <ccooke> brotkasten: there *is* no workaround for this at the moment.
[15:48] <dual> AceKing, me too. I've installed the same driver as I used in 9.04, but it didn't lag then
[15:48] <dual> AceKing, I mean, it didn't lag in 9.04
[15:49] <szeck> Hi guys i have just updated to KArmic and i cant' load the os! Anyone can help?
[15:49] <Mene-Mene> I recently installed a version of Windows 7 RC1, however upon installation it did not add itself to GRUB, attempting to follow these instructions as closely as I could, I get an error which I believe says that the sector is not found. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1036547
[15:49] <erUSUL> !details | szeck
[15:49] <th1> szeck, what's the error message
[15:49] <brotkasten> ccooke: how do you boot right now?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip1> m4t: you can use smbfs in fstab
[15:49] <ccooke> brotkasten: the grub menu contains a search by uuid for the filesystem containing the kernel. This search is what fails. I can't see where that search comes from
[15:49] <MrNaz_cic> how's the esata support in 9.10 ?
[15:49] <m4t> ActionParsnip1 , i'd like to use the gvfs mount helper
[15:49] <AceKing> dual, are you using wireless or wired mouse?
[15:49] <m4t> and have it in ~/.gvfs, etc
[15:49] <XVampireX> Say, I'm using nvidia drivers from repos, is there any way to use vsync on? cause there's tearing in videos and games...
[15:49] <ActionParsnip1> m4t: not used it personally
[15:49] <brotkasten> ccooke: can you pastebin your grub config ?
[15:49] <ccooke> brotkasten: I boot, watch grub fail (and not give me a menu).  That works.
[15:49] <CrocoJet> when happen one kerneloops after resume from supend mode, is necessary reboot of computer ?
[15:49] <erUSUL> XVampireX: use nvidia-settings ?
[15:50] <m4t> normally you'd do places->connect to server
[15:50] <m4t> and it'd appear on the desktop
[15:50] <naser67> i'm using xampp 1.7.1 and i wanna install apc extension on it
[15:50] <naser67> what should i do?
[15:50] <m4t> but it doesn't remain
[15:50] <thor^^> is it possible to expand the crypto disk on the usb boot disk?
[15:50] <ActionParsnip1> m4t: sure but its not so accessible at cli
[15:50] <devslash> im getting error 15 file not found when i boot ubuntu. can anyone help me figure out how to make ubuntu boot ?
[15:50] <erUSUL> CrocoJet: if the machine does not respond seems like the only way...
[15:50] <module000> ccooke: stop using UUID and jsut specify with the hd(x) syntax
[15:50] <szeck> Hi guys i haafter the first white image the screen turn black thl, erUSUL
[15:50] <m4t> ActionParsnip1 sure it is
[15:50] <m4t> cd .gvfs/share name
[15:50] <szeck> after the first white image the screen turn black thl, erUSUL
[15:50] <dual> AceKing, wired. Logitech G5
[15:51] <erUSUL> szeck: can you boot into recovery mode ?
[15:51] <th1> XVampireX, go to System->Administation->Nvidia X SServer Settings and then goto X Screen 0 and OpenGL settings and tick "Sync to VBlank"
[15:51] <ActionParsnip1> m4t: nice, i just use fstab and its there like a folder like any other partition
[15:51] <m4t> heh ActionParsnip1 k, thanks
[15:51] <awop> Hey everyone.
[15:51] <szeck> erUSUL i can try......
[15:51] <CrocoJet> 21896 WARN_ON's reported
[15:51] <CrocoJet> suspend_test_finish(resume devices)		10767
[15:51] <CrocoJet> wow
[15:51] <szeck> erUSUL i have to try?
[15:51] <DareDevil0> Is there any screenlet or something that permit have msn conversations in the gnome-desktop background?
[15:51] <Tuvok> Does anyone know how to change the password which is inserted during installation?
[15:51] <Mene-Mene> Resuts.txt of Boot Info: http://pastebin.com/d352f1659 menu.lst http://pastebin.com/d593b25d3
[15:51] <XVampireX> thl, thanks
[15:52] <ActionParsnip1> Tuvok: passwd
[15:52] <devslash> im getting error 15 file not found when i boot ubuntu. can anyone help me figure out how to make ubuntu boot ?
[15:52] <AceKing> dual, ok, I am using a wireless.. I switched with my another mouse and I'm working fine
[15:52] <ccooke> http://pastebin.com/m6d72a961
[15:52] <ActionParsnip1> Tuvok: will allow you to change your logon password
[15:52] <n8tuser> gondim-> i believe you can use an LVM for swap,  but again is it affecting your system operations or now?
[15:52] <n8tuser> not*
[15:52] <Tuvok> ActionParsnip1 thanks
[15:52] <ccooke> brotkasten: the search I'm referring to is line 52
[15:52] <dual> AceKing, usb?
[15:52] <erUSUL> szeck: maybe the fix Xserver helps
[15:52] <ActionParsnip1> Tuvok: to change another users password use: sudo passwd <username>
[15:52] <n8tuser> devslash-> missing stage1_5  is whats causing that
[15:52] <vato> Is there any way to get a walkthrough on kernel configuration (i'm patching a kernel with grsec and I don't think i've done it properly..)
[15:52] <awop> Anyone have issues with the kernel after upgrading to ubuntu 9.10 from 9.04?
[15:52] <AceKing> dual, I switched with another wireless from my laptop
[15:52] <amerinese> Upgarding to Karmic but the installer is now stuck on the Adobe flashplugin installer, what should I do?
[15:52] <szeck> erUSUL fix what????????
[15:52] <raid0ff> erUSUL:  ty my friend tucan does the job perfectly
[15:53] <dual> AceKing, ok, heard of anyone else having this problem?
[15:53] <th1> vato: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[15:53] <bazhang> amerinese, in the command line?
[15:53] <AceKing> dual, not yet
[15:53] <erUSUL> szeck: in recovery mode there is an option to fix the gui
[15:53] <wers> cant play flash vids on karmic 64. youtube doesnt play even if i click the play button. any idea/
[15:53] <AceKing> dual, do you have another mouse to try?
[15:53] <vato> thank you =)
[15:53] <erUSUL> raid0ff: no problem
[15:53] <ccooke> brotkasten: you can see that linux is being passed actual devices - I disabled root=UUID in /etc/default/grub. That didn't have any effect on this search, though.
[15:53] <amerinese> bazhang: I'm installing from GUI
[15:53] <amerinese> Standard Gnome desktop
[15:53] <dual> AceKing, hmm, yes, I'll try another one later.
[15:53] <szeck> erUSUL where is the option how to do that
[15:53] <CVirus> th1: thanks a lot
[15:54] <szeck> erUSUL anh why fix the gui
[15:54] <erUSUL> szeck: booting into recovery mode from grub menu
[15:54] <AceKing> dual, OK, I hope it works for you
[15:54] <module000> ccooke: how did you gen your grub.cnf?
[15:54] <dual> AceKing, yes, it's annoying
[15:54] <erUSUL> szeck: wll black screen usually means foobared X server
[15:54] <awop> Anyone have issues with the kernel after upgrading to ubuntu 9.10 from 9.04? *PM Me please*
[15:54] <th1> CVirus, you're welcome
[15:54] <module000> ccooke: with grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg    ?
[15:54] <erUSUL> !pm | awop
[15:54] <ccooke> module000: I installed Ubuntu. That's what I got.
[15:54] <ActionParsnip1> awop: keep it in the channel, it may help others
[15:54] <module000> ccooke: did you upgrade ubuntu or install from scratch? (this is relevant)
[15:55] <thor^^> is it possible to expand the usb disk you create with the gui from a live disk? I'd like it to use all 16GB instead of just 4
[15:55] <szeck> erUSUL foobared? what does it means?
[15:55] <awop> oh
[15:55] <awop> ok
[15:55] <jacquesdupontd> let go for a fresh install i count on ubuntu not to deceive me :)
[15:55] <ccooke> module000: yeah, this is a fresh install
[15:55] <MK13> how can i modify the entries in the grub boot loader?
[15:55] <erUSUL> szeck: fscked? broken? etc
[15:55] <module000> ccooke: and what has happened since that install that has caused grub to stop?
[15:55] <v4vijayakumar> hi, Is there any option to upgrade from locally downloaded packages ?!
[15:55] <ccooke> module000: (to fix *different* problems with an upgrade.)
[15:55] <Mikhy> Ciao
[15:55] <module000> ccooke: or has it not worked at all
[15:55] <ccooke> module000: grub never worked
[15:55] <szeck> erUSUL ok i ca give it a try
[15:55] <brotkasten> ccooke: if you comment it out in your config and save it then is uncommented again when rebooting?
[15:55] <szeck> erUSUL later bro
[15:55] <dj_> hey how do i use rar to rar iso file with volumes
[15:55] <module000> ccooke: So when you remove the UUID tab on line 52 it boots?
[15:55] <ccooke> brotkasten: until the next grub update.
[15:56] <ccooke> module000: yes
[15:56] <AceKing> dual, mine was even double clicking on it's own
[15:56] <You_> hi..where can i get assistance with freezes?
[15:56] <ccooke> brotkasten: this is my dad's PC. I live a few hundred miles away, and grub is not really remote-fixable
[15:56] <dual> AceKing, I haven't experiencing that, only lag
[15:56] <ActionParsnip1> You_: does it unfreeze?
[15:56] <You> nope
[15:56] <brotkasten> ccooke: ahhh :)
[15:57] <module000> ccooke: can you check that the UUID there matches the /dev/disk/by-uuid of the disk it should be looking at?
[15:57] <ccooke> (... and explaining to him how to fix it over a phone would be Pain. He's mostly deaf)
[15:57] <ActionParsnip1> You: not helpful :(
[15:57] <ccooke> module000: it does.
[15:57] <devslash> my ubuntu system is hosed
[15:57] <gondim> n8tuser: not affect now
[15:57] <devslash> it wont boot any more
[15:57] <ccooke> module000: checed that first time I booted :-)
[15:57] <gburton> devslash: why did you put a hose inside your computer you fool
[15:57] <gondim> n8tuser: I have memory :)
[15:57] <SGM> I am not going back to a 8x version to see if it works.
[15:57] <amerinese> bazhang: Finally timed out, a little bit strange that the download timeout is so long...
[15:57] <SGM> but machine freezes right after login
[15:58] <Loki> Good After, I upgraded my ubuntu system to 9.10 and now when I start to play DVDs, everything is in a bluetint, and with messed up audio.
[15:58] <AceKing> dual, I may have had a different problem then. It may have just been my mouse going bad
[15:58] <module000> ccooke:  i can't say why it doens'tw ork, but obviously you want to stop the default behavior of it adding the 'search' line and specifying UUID's i would guess?
[15:58] <dual> AceKing, hmm, hard to say.
[15:58] <Mikhy> where is italian ubuntu servers? ='(
[15:58] <ccooke> module000: yes... if I could find where that came from. I'm trying to trace the generation files now
[15:58] <dj_> hey how do i use rar to rar iso file with volumes
[15:58] <civciv> Anyone care to help me out with a very complex and odd issue?
[15:58] <v4vijayakumar> hi, Is there any option to upgrade from locally downloaded packages ?!
[15:58] <module000> ccooke: i'm looking also, but most of the generation is done by rules in /etc/grub.d
[15:58] <c3l_> can I get a virtual machine (running win7) to read my local files? (pref ext3 fs, if not its still good if it can access a ntfs fs)
[15:59] <MK13> how do you add an OS to the grub menu?
[15:59] <ccooke> module000: it's not in there.
[15:59] <civciv> Network + windows + linux + server side .exe + wine to make that .exe work
[15:59] <ccooke> module000: no search in that directory. I'm now tracing sourced files
[15:59] <troynt> How do you change the default pgp keyserver in Ubuntu?
[15:59] <ccooke> got it.
[15:59] <n8tuser> gondim-> so do not worry about it then
[16:00] <civciv> any idea where can I look up for the mentioned issue?
[16:00] <troynt> keyserver.ubuntu.com seems down
[16:00] <Loki> :o
[16:00] <module000> ccooke: where was it?
[16:00] <ccooke> module000: the search is added in /usr/lib/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib
[16:00] <civciv> web? irc? winehq? forums?
[16:00] <gondim> n8tuser: ok. thanks :)
[16:00] <ccooke> module000: inside the function prepare_grub_to_access_device ()
[16:01] <Loki> Any ideas?
[16:01] <module000> ccooke: i see it now..now you can stop it generating those.  still begs to question why they malfunctioned though
[16:01] <ccooke> I think I see the safe option
[16:01] <ccooke> I need to remove the UUID
[16:01] <ccooke> editing this file isn't useful - it'll be replaced by an upgrade
[16:02] <dcibelios> Hello to everyone
[16:02] <ccooke> but if I remove the UUID, it shouldn't add the search
[16:02] <dcibelios> do you know if netbook remix has an upgrade to 9.10?
[16:02] <johnmn3> hello
[16:02] <janis96> hi there
[16:02] <module000> ccooke: when you say remove the UUID, you mean the noUUID option in /etc/defaults/grub?
[16:02] <BoredKender> module000, how does one do that? i had no problems in Jaunty
[16:02] <Mene-Mene> I recently installed a version of Windows 7 RC1, however upon installation it did not add itself to GRUB, attempting to follow these instructions as closely as I could, I get an error which I believe says that the sector is not found. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1036547 Resuts.txt of Boot Info: http://pastebin.com/d352f1659 menu.lst http://pastebin.com/d593b25d3
[16:02] <johnmn3> I seem to have broken my apt
[16:02] <module000> BoredKender: system-preferences-sound, poke around in there
[16:02] <joaopinto> Mene-Mene, are you using ubuntu 9.10 ? grub 2 ?
[16:03] <thux> Hi, got karmic on netbook wind u100 after boot it flash screen brightness? jaunty didn't
[16:03] <BoredKender> there is no sound in system - prefferences
[16:03] <c3l_> is there any working solution to read files in my ubuntu from windows?
[16:03] <ccooke> module000: No, I mean see if I can remove the UUID from the filesystem itself
[16:03] <johnmn3> when I do "sudo aptitude install vlc" I get back "Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "vlc""
[16:03] <ccooke> module000: not sure if I can (safely) but it seems my only option
[16:03] <yfk> Is the 9.10 RC the same as final?
[16:03] <David1> No
[16:04] <module000> ccooke: hrm...i don't know how to do that, never tried
[16:04] <yfk> David1, where can I find a list of changes?
[16:04] <bazhang> yfk, update and it will be
[16:04] <Mene-Mene> joaopinto: Ubuntu 9.10, not sure where to check the version of grub.
[16:04] <awozniak> Is there a way to upgrade from 9.10 RC to 9.10 ?
[16:04] <[manas]> after upgrading from 9.4 to 9.10 my video codecs are gone, where i can download new ones???
[16:04] <bunjee> how do i get flash player working on 64 bit firefox i keep getting an architecture error trying to install the player
[16:04] <bazhang> awozniak, just keep updating
[16:04] <janis96> of course the normal update
[16:04] <Pici> !final | awozniak
[16:04] <izzi> Mene-Mene: uname -r
[16:04] <ccooke> module000: ... I think I'm going to kludge it.
[16:04] <joaopinto> Mene-Mene, open a terminal and run: sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub
[16:04] <BlouBlou> [manas]: from  medibuntu repos
[16:04] <Mene-Mene> joaopinto: 9.04... I thought for sure it was 9.10
[16:04] <ccooke> module000: hello, 'chattr +i' :-)
[16:05] <yfk> bazhang, I have a CD that I downloaded and wish to install it on several machines. I'm not sure the changes are crucial so would rather find a list of changes...
[16:05] <th1> [manas] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[16:05] <tesuki> How do I get the volume applet in 9.10 that was default in 9.04? (I can't rightclick and "remove from panel")
[16:05] <johnmn3> is there a "sudo aptitude unbreak-myself" command?
[16:05] <izzi> bunjee: apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras or kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:05] <joaopinto> Mene-Mene, oh, so please ignore, my incructions were for 9.10
[16:05] <Mene-Mene> sorry.
[16:06] <ccooke> right, time to reboot and see if that was everything wrong...
[16:06] <Mene-Mene> joaopinto: 2.6.28-13-generic for grub.
[16:06] <levu> hi, i have grafic problems with libnotify and "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY" as grafic card
[16:06] <szeck> erUSUL hei i'm in the recovery mode in a irc for terminal ca you hear me?
[16:07] <awop> Ok, sorry guys.
[16:07] <dios_mio> levu, my libnotify makes the popup appear not exactly at the corner
[16:07] <levu> the notifys are shown as a black rounded rectangle with white pixels in it
[16:08] <levu> no text visible
[16:08] <awop> Anyways, I just updated from 9.04 to 9.10 and now it won't boot. It is telling me I have to install the kernel first.
[16:08] <Sypher|NL> hmmhesays-, anyone else experiencing problems with MySQL when going from 9.04 -> 9.10? I am unable to start MySQL-server
[16:08] <khanhpt> quit
[16:08] <Sypher|NL> hmm stupid tab completion
[16:08] <chompy> I just did a fresh install of 9.10 on a laptop and it doesn't want to open any flash drives or external hd
[16:08] <SAIDias> Howdy, will someone help me with my crontab file?  I can't seem to figure out why its not running a script.....
[16:08] <brunop> anyone using Jaunty/Karmic with an Intel G43 chipset ... ?
[16:09] <MK13> how do i add an OS to the boot menu?
[16:09] <awop> Anyone have any ideas as to what happened?
[16:09] <SAIDias> Howdy, will someone help me with my crontab file?  I can't seem to figure out why its not running a script.....http://pastebin.com/m2495227c
[16:09] <haskellnoob> Hi. There is an application called "trayer" that I have been using with Ubuntu, and which has gone away when I updated from 9.04 to 9.10. There seems to be no 9.10 package for trayer, to go by this page : http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=trayer . Is there a way I can install trayer on 9.10, perhaps from a package for 9.04 or some such? Thanks.
[16:09] <san2345> module000, wer can i get a .deb package for rp
[16:09] <tesuki> #
[16:09] <Dergel> hey there. i get the error 15 after installing grub2 on my system... I started with LiveCD an tryed update-grub but it says "Cannot find list of partitions." but my /boot/grub/device.map is correct.
[16:09] <chambera> hai
[16:09] <Mene-Mene> izzi: 2.6.28-13-generic for grub.
[16:10] <ccooke> module000: and it works.
[16:10] <lwells> is it wise to upgrade to 9.10 through the Update Manager??