[00:04] <valorie> yofel: happy new year!
[00:04]  * valorie is now back from the cabin
[04:07] <tsimonq2> valorie: Random thought that came to me while studying: I think it would be a good idea to have an Ubuntu BoF session at LFNW talking about 18.10 plans with people like Dustin from Budgie etc. You in on the idea? :)
[04:18] <valorie> how many other people are gonna be there?
[04:18] <valorie> sure, as long as we have someone to watch the table
[04:19] <valorie> a bit late for some of the planning
[04:19] <valorie> oh
[04:19] <tsimonq2> Right, if I put it on the schedule and we promote the heck out of it, we'll get people...
[04:19] <tsimonq2> hm?
[04:19] <valorie> 18.10
[04:19] <valorie> right
[04:19] <tsimonq2> yeaaaah
[04:19] <tsimonq2> :)
[04:19] <tsimonq2> It's like two weeks after 18.10
[04:19] <tsimonq2> There's going to be a huge surge of development after the LTS polish
[04:20] <tsimonq2> grr, 18.04 ;)
[04:20] <tsimonq2> But yeah, I wanna take advantage of it
[04:20] <tsimonq2> Maybe get some Pop folks around too; anyone that's interested in Ubuntu, really!
[04:20] <valorie> I'm not the most technically equipped to help, but sure
[04:20] <valorie> I can at least keep the meeting moving ahead
[04:20] <tsimonq2> We still need community people around too ;)
[04:21] <tsimonq2> You're also still a release manager, so there's that too :P
[04:21] <valorie> sure
[04:28] <tsimonq2> valorie: Here's what I have as the abstract:
[04:28] <tsimonq2> LinuxFest NorthWest comes two weeks after the release of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, so let's do some Ubuntu 18.10+ planning! Anybody interested in the future of Ubuntu and flavors or derivatives is welcome to join!
[04:28] <tsimonq2> Topics may include getting Ubuntu and flavors on new devices, coordination of cross-flavor development or social projects, and anything else that fits within the scope of "pulse of the Ubuntu community". Bring your projects and ideas to help make Ubuntu better!
[04:28] <tsimonq2> Never done conference proposal abstracts before :)
[04:29] <valorie> maybe look at other BoF descriptions?
[04:29] <valorie> sounds good to me, tsimonq2
[04:29] <tsimonq2> Hm valorie, where could I find those?
[04:31] <tsimonq2> Either way, submitting :)
[04:34] <valorie> I dunno - google?
[04:34] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[04:34] <tsimonq2> I got the idea from Debian
[04:34] <tsimonq2> They do these things all the time
[04:34] <valorie> seems like this year's website is wiped of previous year's info
[04:35] <valorie> which sucks
[04:35] <tsimonq2> valorie: Can I add you as one of the "speakers"? :)
[04:36] <valorie> if it has to be a panel, sure
[04:36] <tsimonq2> There's no requirementsw
[04:37] <tsimonq2> That's the thing, it's a freeflow, informal discussion
[04:37] <valorie> right
[04:37] <valorie> I've been in many BoFs
[04:37] <tsimonq2> I haven't :D
[04:37] <valorie> and held a few myself
[04:39] <tsimonq2> Oh ok
[04:39] <tsimonq2> So am I getting it right valorie?
[04:40] <valorie> yes, I think it's a great idea
[04:41] <valorie> I've not been thinking ahead, and now I am
[04:41] <valorie> so thank you for that
[04:41] <tsimonq2> yw :D
[04:41] <tsimonq2> oooooh I think I need to retitle my talk to "Ubuntu: Beyond the Beaver" :D :D :D
[04:41] <tsimonq2> s/talk/BoF/
[04:42] <valorie> oh dear god
[04:42] <tsimonq2> They make that terminology confusing :P
[04:42] <tsimonq2> YES
[04:42] <tsimonq2> XD
[04:42] <valorie> NO
[04:42] <valorie> please
[04:42] <tsimonq2> Awww :P
[04:42] <tsimonq2> Fine
[04:42] <valorie> it's awful
[04:42] <tsimonq2> hahahahahahahaa
[04:43] <valorie> and I like beavers
[04:43] <tsimonq2> Fiiiiiiiiiiiine I'll keep with the boring old talk name "Ubuntu 18.10+ Planning"
[04:44] <tsimonq2> URGH I KEEP SAYING TALK BECAUSE STUPID WEBSITE
[04:44] <tsimonq2> >_<
[04:44] <valorie> you can use the beyond the beaver as you talk to people about it
[04:44] <tsimonq2> Like, I love you site, but like...
[04:44] <tsimonq2> Sure
[04:44] <tsimonq2> Ok
[04:44] <valorie> no, the website sorta sucks
[04:44] <valorie> always have, still does
[04:46] <tsimonq2> heh
[04:46] <tsimonq2> right
[04:47] <valorie> is there official artwork for 18.04 already?
[04:47] <tsimonq2> mmm
[04:47] <tsimonq2> Don't think so...
[04:47] <valorie> since it is already alpha time, you would think so.....
[04:51] <tsimonq2> nah
[04:52] <tsimonq2> They usually wait a bi
[04:52] <tsimonq2> *bit
 oh yay, Linode's down
[05:53] <valorie> tsimonq2: when I was first involved, and there was UDS, the tshirts were out by UDS (which was about a month before release
[05:53] <tsimonq2> ohh hmm
[05:54] <tsimonq2> UDS <3
[05:54] <tsimonq2> I wish we could still have those...
[05:54] <valorie> uds was all about planning far ahead
[05:54] <valorie> yeah, that was what grew the community
[09:46] <yofel> valorie, acheronuk: happy new year :)
[19:16] <acheronuk> who owns the G+ Kubuntu community?
[22:12] <valorie> if you find out, put it on https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/social-media/
[22:12] <valorie> looks like you Marco and Aaron have accounts, but one should be bolded or starred or something
[22:40] <acheronuk> valorie: I can now post as Kubuntu with the brand account, but even that seems not to own it. maybe Rick does?
[22:41] <valorie> ah, could be
[22:41] <valorie> I've not been a fan or much of a G+ user for a few years
[22:41] <valorie> started off good! and with every change, it got worse IMO
[22:43] <acheronuk> it's main selling point is that it's NOT FACEBOOK for me.
[22:43] <acheronuk> but not my favourite
[22:44] <valorie> true that
[22:44] <valorie> but the stuff I liked about it is gone
[22:48] <valorie> irc is still the best social network!
 me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shoTTC3PeKg
[22:48]  * valorie <3s everyone here
 oh wrong channel
 funny regardless :D


[01:15] <cheeseboy> how can i uninstall an apps dependancy without uninstalling the main app?
[01:45] <roe_> anyone know where the netboot images are?
[01:53] <sonic_> trying to install xubuntu on an old laptop, but I just get dumped into busybox with initramfs
[02:15] <Rhorse> sonic_, try fluxbuntu?
[02:15] <cheeseboy> how do i use xfce4-screenshooter-plugin ?
[02:16] <sonic_> Rhorse: why should I use fluxbuntu? I have 192 RAM.
[02:16] <sonic_> how do I figure out why the install failed?
[02:17] <sonic_> the same happens with all ubuntu based installers
[02:17] <sonic_> I dont see why fluxbuntu will be any different
[02:20] <sonic_> join #debian
[02:20] <sonic_> whoops
[02:33] <echosystm> can anyone tell me how to install nvidia drivers without using the driver manager?
[02:33] <echosystm> i need to do it from the commandline
[02:33] <echosystm> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx ??
[02:44] <Floodge> When connecting to a wireless network, Xubuntu will "attempt to connect" and then stop, what can I do to get it to connect?
[03:01] <bad_cables> well i have to say that the fix for the small fonts works... but only after i restarted 3 times
[03:02] <bad_cables> sorry for that blow-out last night... boy was i angry when it didnt work when i logged in
[03:02] <bad_cables> now it works
[07:17] <Dingbat> hello
[10:08] <Nick3> hello, i have a problem with my wireless 3com 3crusb10075 in xubuntu
[10:08] <Nick3> it worked out the box but then i think i accidentally did something but now it won't connect to anything
[10:08] <Nick3> it still finds wireless networks but it can't connect
[10:09] <Nick3> is there a way to like reset all internet settings?
[10:09] <Nick3> because i tried on my other comp with Xubuntu and it worked perfectly
[10:34] <Epicenter> Hello! I am looking to reinstall Ubuntu but "Gutsy" has Xorg v1.3 which has serious issues with the siliconmotion card in my laptop. I want to get an older version that has 1.2. Which would you guys recommend? Thank you!
[10:40] <Epicenter> Why can't I download 7.04 anywhere? Just 6.06.1 and 7.10? I just want the next step down from 7.10 that has Xorg 1.2; Xorg 1.3 has major problems with my Silicon Motion-based video card.
[11:49] <age6racer> hi all I just reinstalled Xubuntu over the top of an existing installation. Everything is working pretty well but i can't seem to add/remove items from the autostarted applications tool. Where is the config file for this and why can I not write to it?
[11:52] <TheSheep> age6racer: there are two, local in your home in .config/autostart, and a global one in /etc/xdg/autostart
[11:52] <shadowkernel> you may check the permission of .config
[11:54] <age6racer> shadowkernel: My user owns .config and has read/write permissions
[11:56] <age6racer> TheSheep: Thanks for that info. Do you know what I need to do in order to change what starts? do i just delete the files relating to the ones I dont want? and do i create new ones for new apps? why does the autostarted apps tool not work?
[12:01] <TheSheep> age6racer: you edit these files and add 'disable=true' or something like that, not sure, there is a freedesktop.org spec for that
[13:04] <Epicenter> Hello! I am looking for a VERY, VERY fast file manager for X. I used to have XFE but now I am running feisty, and it seesm to be in Gutsy only. Can anyone make a recommendation? Thanks! :)
[13:05] <TheSheep> mc
[13:06] <Epicenter> mc?
[13:07] <Epicenter> I do need a gui :)
[13:11] <Epicenter> TheSheep: know a good fast X11 one?
[13:14] <TheSheep> thunar
[13:18] <Epicenter> Thanks. :) think I'll go with XFE, found a working .deb on the author's site
[13:18] <Epicenter> but will keep thunar around in case it gives me trouble
[13:32] <Da_Putzler> hi folks, does xUbuntu detect usb digital cameras and let you download photos like ubuntu does ?
[13:34] <TheSheep> Da_Putzler: I think it supports fewer cameras, but youcan install gthumb and have it the same as in gnome
[13:34] <Da_Putzler> so it's basically gthumb that deals with the photo side of things ?
[16:50] <RoboCop> when will the next version of *buntu going to release ?
[17:42] <schokoforum> hello
[17:42] <ere4si> !hi
[17:42] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!
[17:43] <schokoforum> well, i'm installing Xubuntu and i have a problem
[17:43] <schokoforum> :P
[17:44] <zoredache> perhaps you should elaborate.  I don't think any of us will try and interrogate you
[17:44] <schokoforum> after some time there is an error and the box says me, that there is a problem with the DVD-drive or the harddisk
[17:45] <schokoforum> is it possible to take the Disk out of the drive to clean it?
[17:45] <zoredache> did you run an checksum scan on the disk?
[17:46] <zoredache> did you check the md5 sums on the iso you downloaded?
[17:46] <schokoforum> you mean the option when i start the system?
[17:46] <schokoforum> eeehm, no
[17:46] <zoredache> yes there is an option at bootup to check the disk
[17:47] <zoredache> well I would start by trying that.  If it tells you your cd is bad, then either means you have a bad optical drive, or a bad burn of the ubuntu disk
[17:47] <schokoforum> well so i have to restart my computer....
[17:47] <schokoforum> mmmh, i hope, i have a bad burn...
[17:48] <schokoforum> but the optical drive isn't the newest
[17:50] <schokoforum> thank you i will now be away from the chat and if i don't come back, i had success, if i come back, there are two possibilities: 1st i want to meet you and 2nd i still have the problem...
[17:51] <zoredache> :)
[20:12]  * Che-Anarc thinks Ubuntu off of livecd is tooo slow.
[22:23] <rww> Hmm. I have an Ubuntu 7.10 live CD. My CD burner is currently broken. Is there a relatively easy way of installing Xubuntu from an Ubuntu live CD, without ending up with tonnes of unnecessary packages being left over from Ubuntu?
[22:26] <deeps> rww: are you on a linux based system already?
[22:27] <TheSheep> rww: look at the instructions for installing from knoppix, for example:
[22:27] <TheSheep> !install | rww
[22:27] <ubotu> rww: ntation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - Also /msg ubotu automate
[22:45] <isul> xubuntu doesn't come with a vnc server, how can I get one?
[22:57] <zoredache> try apt-get install x11vnc
[22:58] <zoredache> or search for 'vnc' in the package manager and choose your favorite
[23:00] <isul> it says package not found, and there are no results for that search in "Add/Remove..."
[23:01] <zoredache> do you have the 'universe' respositories enabled?
[23:03] <isul> no clue.  it's a fresh install
[23:04] <zoredache> !repos
[23:05] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[23:10] <isul> thanks