[19:45] <oCean> tacomaster: in redirection 2 means STDERR (error) and 1 STDOUT (output), the 2>&1 redirects both STDOUT and STDERR to the output.txt
[19:45] <cannonball> mari00: Dell Latitude D620. Basically, 'dpkg --configure -a' fixed all my problems.
[19:46] <mari00> cannonball: this sounds promising.  the live cd would be an installation disk where you chose the try without install option, yeah?
[19:46] <mgolisch> actualy it redirects stderr into stdout and > redirects that into output.txt
[19:46] <oCean> mgolisch: agreed
[19:46] <cannonball> mari00: It sounds like yours is not quite the same issue though.  Maybe a clean install.  Here's the chronicle of my issue:  https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+question/154970
[19:46] <cannonball> I'm note #3.
[19:47] <tacomaster> mgolisch: oCean ok ty both for the help
[19:47] <mgolisch> chinnappan: is this a server or something?
[19:48] <mgolisch> chinnappan: you can try mounting it using mount, or using the ntfs-3g command
[19:48] <mgolisch> both should work
[19:48] <marvindoppelt> motaka2, if you believe you followed all the instructions, what is the error you are getting?
[19:48] <chinnappan> ok
[19:48] <chinnappan> thks
[19:49] <akashm1990> how can I disable the window border shadows in Ubuntu 11.04?
[19:50] <Jordan_U> !ccsm | akashm1990
[19:51] <catfish> Hi, how can i disable the message botton in the gome systray?
[19:51] <catfish> *gnome
[19:51] <||cw> anyone ever seen this happen? ls: /etc/resolv.conf: Permission denied
[19:51] <||cw> also, ls -Rl /etc |grep 'resolv.conf'
[19:51] <||cw> ?--------- ? ?    ?           ?                ? /etc/resolv.conf
[19:52] <selvakumaran> Is Gnome3 needs any spl H/W..?
[19:52] <||cw> selvakumaran: it should fall back to non-fancy features on non-accelerated
[19:53] <||cw> I've had this /etc/resolv.conf issue on 2 server, one a reboot and fsck fixed it, the other didn't
[19:53] <mari00> cannonball: well i managed to mount the linux partition so it is still there which is good.  but not sure what to do now.
[19:55] <greg3000> Going to mirror a raid-1 installation using "dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdc", any tips before I start?
[19:55] <d3ngar_> hey there
[19:56] <Cleofas> Hi, my ubuntu cd doesn't run so I can't install it.
[19:56] <aacharya> hey guys, what's a good way to shutdown and restart x? i used sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop but couldnt get x up and running again
[19:56] <d3ngar_> I pretty much got the Gnome-shell story running (also rescued Unity)
[19:56] <Cleofas> What can I do?
[19:56] <greg3000> hi d3ngar_
[19:56] <d3ngar_> But I accidentally replaced the session manager
[19:56] <Cleofas> Hi, my ubuntu cd doesn't run so I can't install it.
[19:56] <Cleofas> What can I do?
[19:56] <d3ngar_> How do I revert back to the original session managr?
[19:56] <Jordan_U> azertyh: sudo service gdm restart
[19:57] <d3ngar_> any ideas?
[19:57] <aacharya> Jordan_U: guessing you meant to send that to me :) will stop and start work as well (if i need to do some work at the console while x is down) ?
[19:57] <Jordan_U> aacharya: Yes.
[19:57] <KM0201> Cleofas: reburn it?
[19:57] <Cleofas> For the 4th time?
[19:57] <cannonball> mari00: Assuming you mounted it to /mnt/root, then you do a 'chroot /mnt/root'
[19:58] <aacharya> Jordan_U: great.  also, it looks like the network is somehow tied to x? is this for real, and if so, can i start the network while gdm is stopped?
[19:58] <Cleofas> It works on windows, but not on ubuntu.
[19:58] <Cleofas> And it doesn't run from the bios.
[19:58] <KM0201> Cleofas: if you've burned it that many times either 1. it's a bad ISO, download again, or 2. you're not burning correctly.
[19:58] <cannonball> Now you're in a bash shell, but it's running from your installed image instead of the cd/dvd that you booted.
[19:58] <selvakumaran> can i access my www folder with out root permission..?
[19:58] <akashm1990> Jordan_U, Diabling "Window decoration" from compizconfig settings manager to remove the shadows results in me losing my title bars
[19:58] <mari00> cannonball: i mounted it to /media/lpart
[19:59] <Cleofas> KM0201, I downloaded it from the offcial site.
[19:59] <cannonball> mari00: Assuming that works, try the dpkg command from the answers.ubuntu.com link I posted above.  It essentially "continues" the queued up steps that the installer didn't get to finish.
[19:59] <KM0201> Cleofas: that doesn't really mean anything, but ok.
[19:59] <Dulak> aacharya: install wicd, it runs whether X is running or not, unlike network-manager,  or manually configure your network in /etc/network/interfaces to avoid the entire mess
[19:59] <Cleofas> KM0201, what do you mean?
[19:59] <mari00> so i would chroot /media/lpart
 u should better reinstall your Compiz, that s the only solution
[19:59] <KM0201> !md5 | Cleo
[19:59] <KM0201> Cleofas: see above
[20:00] <selvakumaran> can i access my www folder with out root permission..?
[20:00] <aacharya> Dulak: ah, cool thank you :)
[20:00] <Jordan_U> Dulak: aacharya: Network manager can do system wide configuration just as well as anything else.
[20:00] <mbroadst> is there any easy way to update from karmic to whatever the current version is? or am I better off trying to just migrate data over
[20:00] <Cleofas> The image file is complete, I've burned it several times and it's not that you need to be an engineer to burn a cd.
[20:00] <Cleofas> KM0201, I've seen it already.
[20:00] <KM0201> does it pass?
[20:00] <glitchd> i know this is not the right room for this question, but i cannot connect to the correct room. does anyone know how to update the minecraft server while saving all of the data contained in it?
[20:00] <Dulak> Jordan_U: if X isn't running, network-manager isn't either, so no network
[20:00] <mbroadst> update-manager just tells me I'm not supported anymore :)
[20:00] <Cleofas> KM0201, pass??
[20:00] <aacharya> Jordan_U: so how do i start the network after shutting down x with network manager?
[20:01] <KM0201> Cleofas: nevermind... good luck w/ your problem
[20:01] <mari00> cannonball: i tried to run ´sudo chroot /media/lpart´and got an error
[20:01] <Dulak> Jordan_U: which is why the very first thing I do on a ubuntu install is replace network-manager with wicd
[20:01] <Jordan_U> aacharya: It's not tied to X so much as it's tied to your GNOME session, by default. If you make the connection "available to all users" and set it to connect automatically then it will connect before you login and stay connected after you log out.
[20:01] <Cleofas> I do mind, KM0201
[20:01] <Jordan_U> Dulak: ^^
[20:01] <KM0201> Cleofas: but i don't, like i said, good luck.
[20:01] <mari00> do i need to have booted from a live cd of the last stable install version?  because i am using an 11.04 live cd...
[20:01] <aacharya> Jordan_U: thanks!
[20:01] <Cleofas> KM0201, fuck off.
[20:01] <mari00> or install cd rather
[20:02] <Jordan_U> !language | Cleofas
[20:02] <Cleofas> Too many no-life e-toughs.
[20:02] <Jordan_U> Cleofas: And that treatment of others is also not welcome here.
[20:02] <selvakumaran> Wat is the diff b/w live cd and DVD.....>>?
[20:02] <Cleofas> Fuck you Jordan_U and fuck you ubottu
[20:03] <coz_> oy
[20:03] <BrainVirus> hahaha
[20:04] <BrainVirus> Jordan_U:  :)
[20:04] <greg3000> Going to mirror a raid-1 installation using "dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdc", any tips before I start?
[20:05] <Smashcat> heh, well running that quick script to install everything with zlib in the name worked ;-) one of them had the library in it - god knows what other crap was installed - hehe
[20:06] <BrainVirus> anybody in here have experience with hostname issues in 10.04?
[20:06] <mbroadst> I'd prefer not to have to do a fresh install on this computer, but update-manager will only say "This version is not supported" has anyone updated 9.10 to 11.04?
[20:06] <rww> !eol | mbroadst
[20:06] <mbroadst> rww: thank you
[20:06] <KM0201> mbroadst: you canno tupdate 9.04 directly to 11.04... that will e a long process getting from 9.04 to 11.04
[20:07] <leandro220-x> hi
[20:07] <leandro220-x> i need some guidance on this
[20:08] <KM0201> leandro220-x: ask
[20:08] <mari00> cannonball or anyone...any idea why chroot wouldn't work...
[20:09] <leandro220-x> ok so i installed netbeans 6.9 then 7 but i dint know how to unistall it so i just removed folder now i have an icon on the aplications menu i couldnt remove
[20:09] <leandro220-x> it wasnt installed via ubuntu sofware manager it was an .sh file
[20:10] <adwait_neo> I am planning to submit my project for GSoC 2012. Can someone help me how should i start?
[20:10] <cannonball> mari00: This just a guess, but it sounds like  package updates failed so early on that what's there isn't usable.  You're better off re-installing I would think.  Back up anything that you need backed up because once you format....
[20:10] <BrainVirus> anybody in here have experience with hostname issues in 10.04?
[20:10] <Scunizi> How can I get a directory listing output to a text file in alphabetical order?  ls <something> > dir.txt
[20:10] <jimnordon> I'm ircing from my toilet.. goddammit I love technology!!!
[20:10] <joshua__> hey i was thinking about playing with making my own linux flavor... any suggestions?
[20:11] <v0lksman> anyone know if it's possible to run nightly and stable Chrome builds at the same time?
[20:11] <leandro220-x> so
[20:11] <mari00> cannonball: you think that is why chroot is not working?  did you see that i am running from a 11.04 livecd...is that relevant maybe?
[20:11] <Smashcat> haha, a website's managed to crash firefox and slow my pc down to the speed of a zx81 ;-)
[20:11] <Smashcat> ah i see it's trying to run java. that explains it
[20:11] <adwait_neo> I am planning to submit my project for GSoC 2012. Can someone help me from where should i start?
[20:11] <Dulak> BrainVirus: a better way would be to describe exactly the problem, and not a general request like that.  People have all kinds of problems, but without specifics you'll get a yes or no answer, or just be ignored.
[20:11] <v0lksman> joshua__, great for YOU to learn but unless you have a good group of people to work with it won't gain much traction...lots of work involved
[20:11] <akashm1990> adwait_neo, wait for GSoC 2012 announcement..
[20:11] <akashm1990> or atleast till GSoC 2011 end
[20:11] <joshua__> i have 3 people
[20:12] <BeyNoteDeathBlad> hi, mmm i have a question, i wanna install Ubuntu 11.04 but when i start the installation with a boot cd i choose the language, etc, but when the ubuntu load screen appears it freezes out? and i cant continue, the same happens with ubuntu 10.10, ubuntu 8.04, fedora 15 and debian 6.0, why it happens? i can instal Win XP and 7... my pc its a P4 1.80 GHz & 512 RAM.
till then what should i work on? any programing language or application?
[20:12] <jimnordon> who would win in a fight-- gnome3 or unity?
[20:12] <v0lksman> joshua__, best to take this to an offtopic channel or #linux...best of luck though...it's fun to try, hard to keep up...
[20:12] <BrainVirus> Dulak: fair enough
 UNITY :D
[20:13] <Zolorado> hi, I need some help with kubuntu, somebody can help me?
[20:13] <xangua> !ot | jimnordon
[20:13] <joshua__> ok thanks
[20:13] <GridCube> jimnordon, xfce!
[20:13] <kelvinella> hello, after i upgrade to 10.04 my printer no longer work.  it said Stopping job because the scheduler could not execute a filter
[20:13] <jimnordon> hah nice
[20:13] <yhager> I'm on maverick but I need a package that is available on natty - http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/packages/show/304986 - Can I install it on maverick?
[20:13] <kelvinella> my printer is canon mp210 how to fix?
[20:13] <BeyNoteDeathBlad> hi, mmm i have a question, i wanna install Ubuntu 11.04 but when i start the installation with a boot cd i choose the language, etc, but when the ubuntu load screen appears it freezes out? and i cant continue, the same happens with ubuntu 10.10, ubuntu 8.04, fedora 15 and debian 6.0, why it happens? i can instal Win XP and 7... my pc its a P4 1.80 GHz & 512 RAM.
[20:13] <BrainVirus> i am unable to ping the hostname of a ubuntu 10.04 box. Any ideas?
[20:14] <Dulak> yhager: it may work, but if it doesn't you can always get the natty source package, modify it, and compile for maverick
[20:14] <v0lksman> yhager, depends on dependencies but you can always try and see if dpkg barfs an error
[20:14] <yhager> Dulak, v0lksman: where can I donwload the .deb from?
[20:15] <The_Explorer> Hello, i am looking for someone clever: Recently i made the error of deleting a large sum of files. O well. however, i managed to get the data with a efsck, So i now i have a over 2.5x10e5 files that my computer is very slow at getting a list for.
[20:15] <yhager> oh, found it on packages.ubuntu.com
[20:15] <BeyNoteDeathBlad> hi, mmm i have a question, i wanna install Ubuntu 11.04 but when i start the installation with a boot cd i choose the language, etc, but when the ubuntu load screen appears it freezes out? and i cant continue, the same happens with ubuntu 10.10, ubuntu 8.04, fedora 15 and debian 6.0, why it happens? i can instal Win XP and 7... my pc its a P4 1.80 GHz & 512 RAM, plz some one can help me (:
[20:16] <Dulak> yhager: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/mozjs/1.8.5-1.0.0-0ubuntu5
[20:16] <xangua> !repeat | BeyNoteDeathBlad
[20:16] <sw0rdfish> !webmin
[20:16] <jasonsrus2007> SET term_force_colors ON
[20:16] <Dulak> yhager: that has the source tarball they made the package from, if you end up having to make your own maverick package it'll be handy
[20:17] <The_Explorer> beynotedeathblad, disable advanced pci power options
[20:17] <yhager> Dulak: thanks.
[20:17] <The_Explorer> beynotedeathblad, start with noapci or whatever
[20:18] <BrainVirus> i am unable to ping the hostname of a ubuntu 10.04 box.  I can ping the ip though. Help?
[20:18] <edbian> BrainVirus: Do you have a local DNS server?
[20:18] <Gskellig> okay, can someone help me get unity working
[20:18] <toumbo> Hi all!!!I have a problem.After plymouth when ubuntu loads the theme is changed on it's own!Is this a bug?
[20:18] <Gskellig> when i login I choose "ubuntu" not ubuntu classic
[20:19] <BrainVirus> edbian: yeah, the dns settings are all correct and pointing to the dns server
[20:19] <Gskellig> i know it works because it has worked with ubuntu 11.04 before
[20:19] <Gskellig> for some reason after installing this time it wont start
[20:19] <edbian> BrainVirus: dig hostname@DNS-SERVER
[20:19] <LetterRip> hi, i'd like to use jemalloc with blender, i'm pretty sure that firefox uses jemalloc but i can't find the jemalloc library on my computer , anyone know where it resides?
 mmm my bios only allows to retard the HDD load and select the first bootable HDD
[20:19] <Dulak> BrainVirus: what do you get when you do 'host hostnamehere'
[20:20] <bencc> is it possible to compile flex 4.5 in ubuntu? openjdk or sun java?
[20:20] <BrainVirus> Dulak host sauron1 not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
[20:21] <xangua> bencc: you can compile on any linux distro if you have the source
[20:21] <tase> what about task/todos, i'm doing // TODO ... in netbeans 7 and nothing
[20:21] <Dulak> BrainVirus: do you have a search domain specified in /etc/resolv.conf?  if so is it the domain that contains sauron1?
[20:22] <BrainVirus> its on the same network. but i havent added sauron1 to that domain
[20:22] <BrainVirus> edbian: PM
[20:22] <Dulak> BrainVirus: the quick fix is to add the ip and hostname to /etc/hosts,  the long fix is to figure out why that bare hostname without a domain is failing a dns lookup
[20:23] <BrainVirus> Dulak: i think i need the long fix. I need this box to stay DHCP
[20:23] <Dulak> BrainVirus: add sauron1 to the search domain you specify in /etc/resolv.conf
[20:24] <BrainVirus> okay
[20:24] <Dulak> BrainVirus: if you don't have a search domain specified, bare hostnames will only resolve from /etc/hosts
[20:24] <DannyS> Playing a quicktime stream from apple.com is very buggy using gecko and mplayer plugin.  I just installed pinguy 11.04.  It is the only distro I have found that plays quicktime streams properly out of the box.  Does anybody know what they do that is different?
[20:24] <akashm1990> How do I fix it when my title bar becomes like that shown in the screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/P9Orl.png
[20:24] <linuxnewb> how can i show the number of files located in directory /urs/bin/ files who contains a number (wildcard)
[20:26]  * prabhu waves hello
[20:27] <BrainVirus> Dulak: thanks. I am going to try removing the search domain
[20:27] <BrainVirus> Dulak:..... i could kiss you right now
[20:27] <BrainVirus> just on the cheek
[20:29] <Mike9863> How do I enable desktop effects in 11.04?
[20:29] <steviewonder> the square root of 16 is 4
[20:29] <Chilaquiles> hey guys, how can I increase the swap?
[20:29] <steviewonder> sure
[20:30] <BrainVirus> Dulak: i have been working that issue for the last 4 hours
[20:30] <shomon> hi, I'm booting off a recovery cd
[20:30] <Chilaquiles> I can't hybernate because it says that I have to increase the swap
[20:30] <Dulak> BrainVirus: hah!  glad I could help
[20:30] <shomon> and I want to burn ubuntu to a usb drive
[20:30] <shomon> how do I do it?
[20:30] <shomon> I just downloaded the latest one
[20:30] <steviewonder> you control c it
[20:30] <shomon> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download from here
[20:30] <steviewonder> yeah
[20:31] <||cw> Chilaquiles: boot off the livecd and use gparted to resize the partitions
[20:31] <wafa_> hi
[20:31] <Chilaquiles> ||cw: I don't want to rezise the partitions
[20:31] <wafa_> well it's nt to as a question
[20:31] <||cw> Chilaquiles: then you can't increase the size of the swap partition
[20:31] <steviewonder> do you guys know that this is all live streaming on http://browntechx.com/live/?
[20:31] <shomon> does anyone know how to burn a ubuntu iso to a hard drive when you don-t have ubuntu windows or a mac?
[20:31] <Chilaquiles> I know there is a way without rezising the partitions
[20:32] <||cw> maybe you can add a swap file, google "linux swap file"
[20:32] <steviewonder> do you guys know that this is all live streaming on http://browntechx.com/live/?
[20:32] <llutz> ||cw: only tuxonice can hibernate into swapfiles iirc
[20:32] <steviewonder> say my name if you can see this... im soo confused
[20:33] <edbian> steviewonder: hi
[20:33] <||cw> steviewonder: *yawn*
[20:33] <steviewonder> oh good! i hought i was blocked and kicked
[20:33] <||cw> might end up that if you keep spaming site not related to the /topic
[20:33] <edbian> steviewonder: what an interesting webcam
[20:33] <steviewonder> sorry this is stupid but any ideas how to get gum off your laptop?!!
[20:34] <maco> steviewonder: ice pack
[20:34] <steviewonder> seriously?
[20:34] <maco> steviewonder: freeze the gum, then it'll crack right off
[20:34] <||cw> freeze it with canned air and and chip it off before it thaws
[20:34] <steviewonder> okay!
[20:34] <wafa_> shomon, you can download the ubuntu version you want on your windows then you burn it as an image on a dvd then you should then reboot using this dvd then you install your ubuntu version
[20:34] <shomon> is there a text alternative to "make startup disk" in ubuntu's startup disk creator?
[20:34] <steviewonder> you guys are uber smart
[20:34] <shomon> ah thanks wafa_
[20:34] <||cw> hold the can upside down for an extra cold blast, don't get it on your skin though
[20:34] <BeyNoteDeathBlad> shomon u can download http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ and follow the instructions
[20:34] <shomon> I have downloaded it
[20:35] <shomon> I donn-t have a dvd. I wanted to boot from usb
[20:35] <BeyNoteDeathBlad> shomon u configured ur bios to allow usb boot?
[20:35] <||cw> shomon: you want to put the live-dvd on usb?
[20:36] <wafa_> you are welcome but be sure to burn it not as a data dvd but as an image you should find this option on your sotware u use to burn a dvd
[20:36] <||cw> shomon: I'd use unetbootin, which has ports for all the major OS's
[20:36] <shomon> yes cw
[20:36] <shomon> I do... I would like to boot off there if possible
[20:36] <wafa_> ok i ddn't use this option, but u can i guess
[20:36] <||cw> it's still a gui, but at least you get more options for making the usb bootable
[20:37] <shomon> what is the unix command to burn an iso to a usb if that is even possible?
[20:37] <danielbrown2> hi guys
[20:37] <||cw> shomon: it's not that simple
[20:37] <shomon> ok
[20:37] <||cw> shomon: but there are howto's out there
[20:37] <shomon> I'm on a recovery cd after getting hacked a while back
[20:37] <wafa_> jst be sure tht u burn the image this way it will make your flash dsk bootable
[20:37] <danielbrown2> i made this chat room
[20:37] <shomon> so I just downloaded an iso.. but the only thing I can burn to just now seems the external hd
[20:38] <Guest24783> i have a 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad' on sony vaio 64bit and having problems
[20:38] <Guest24783> any one know a fix?
[20:38] <shomon> hmm do you know where I can find one of those howtos?
[20:39] <BeyNoteDeathBlad> shomon u downloaded http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[20:39] <||cw> shomon: you have to some trick to make the USB bootable, then you extract the iso to the usb, then you mess with some syslinux config to make it look in the right places
[20:39] <shomon> oh can you just extract an iso like a zip?
[20:39] <unknown> hello. How to run binary files from console? ./app works for me if i am inside app's cat; ./way-to-app/app doesnt (should it?)
[20:39] <JoshuaL> shomon, yes
[20:40] <maco> unknown: if way to app isnt under the current dir, then leave off the . at the beginning
[20:40] <unknown> ok
[20:40] <shomon> ok thanks JoshuaL I-ll look up on google how to do it
[20:40] <unknown> nope, doesnt work
[20:40] <wafa_> shomon u dnt have to unzip
[20:41] <wafa_> you shld just reboot with this drive (usb or dvd)
[20:41] <JoshuaL> shomon, just right click the file and select extract here
[20:41] <wafa_> the iso format is used to run a bootable dvd, cd , or usb
[20:42] <unknown> i wrote "/way/app". App should create txt file, but it didnt...
[20:42] <uragan> hello my dear friends
[20:42] <uragan> how are you
[20:42] <maco> unknown: if you do "file /way/app" does it tell you its a script/ELF or does it say not found?
[20:42] <unknown> ill try
[20:43] <unknown> ELF 32-bit LSB executable
[20:44] <dcorbin_work> I'm trying to update packages from jaunty.  It's failing.  Anybody else having problems.  I think it was us.archive.ubuntu.com .
[20:44] <unknown> ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, not stripped
[20:46] <qin> !jaunty
[20:47] <qin> !eol | dcorbin_work
[20:47] <Pici> dcorbin_work: Jaunty has reached its End of Life, so its regular repositories are no longer available. See  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
 any guess, whats wrong with me/my ubuntu ? :)
[20:49] <sarkar> hello
[20:49] <maco> unknown: nope
[20:49] <kondor> Hello all, I've installed ubuntu 11.04, with an vga Intel 82G33/G31, but the display resollution is so bad, how can I set up it?
 ok, thx for a try )
[20:49] <xangua> bcorboujimkn..
[20:50] <tensorpudding> kondor: try running Monitors
[20:51] <kondor> how?
[20:51] <tensorpudding> and see if you can set a better resolution
[20:51] <tensorpudding> kondor: it'll be in the applications, search for it by name
[20:51] <tensorpudding> kondor: or look in System Settings
[20:51] <kondor> i'm runnign with ubuntu clasic theme, not unity theme
[20:52] <kafher> hello is any body there to help me with ssh synatx
[20:52] <tensorpudding> kondor: it'll be under System -> Configuration or something then
[20:52] <kondor> System->preferences->Monitors
[20:52] <kondor> Ok,
[20:52] <kondor> but it shows me up to 1024*768 resolution,
[20:53] <kondor> and I know my monitor could do more..
[20:53] <fendell> i'm having same problem as kondor
[20:53] <dcorbin_work> Pici, ubottu : thanks.  I figured EOL (which I knew was 'not far off') just mean no more updates....
[20:54] <tensorpudding> kondor: what is your monitor?
[20:54] <fendell> lg tv
[20:54] <kondor> is acer, P221w
[20:55] <cablop> does anyone here have some experience with kde?
[20:55] <fendell> cant activate effekts either
[20:55] <dcorbin_work> That is, no more bug fixes.
[20:55] <cablop> and don't ask me to go kubuntu, that channel is pretty dead
[20:57] <BrainVirus> Dulak: up for round 2?
[20:57] <kondor> please some help...
[20:57] <tensorpudding> kondor: not sure then...is it widescreen?
[20:57] <Dulak> BrainVirus: ask away, if I can't help someone else prolly can
[20:57] <kondor> is possible to force the resolution in 11.04?
[20:58] <BrainVirus> I am getting the error. E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. I run that and then it sits on th package it was trying to install before and just sits there
[20:58] <tensorpudding> kondor: yes, but i'm trying to see if there is a better way, because that way involves writing a configuration file
[20:59] <eipi-1> hi, i often experience freezed X Display after closing the laptop lid putting it way and taking it back. i can switch to other tty and startx -- :1 another Display, from where i am chatting right now. Where can i start to pin down the problem? My guess is, that some read errors from the harddrive while moving the laptop may cause the problem. Maybe someone has an idea to reactivate the :0 display, so i can save my docs? any help appreciated :)
[20:59] <Dulak> BrainVirus: purge the package and try again, also what package?
[20:59] <kondor> I try to find restricted drivers, but it doesnt works..
[20:59] <tensorpudding> kondor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Resolution is the usual info
[21:00] <tensorpudding> there are no restricted drivers for intel, they're all open
[21:00] <psichas> so musch hackers :D
[21:00] <tensorpudding> the issue is probably due to a bug in figuring out what resolutions are available
[21:00] <BrainVirus> Dulak: wait a sec i think i just got it. "sudo aptitude clean" seemed to do the trick... i think
[21:00] <ech0s7_> hi
[21:00] <tensorpudding> this info might be somewhat out-of-date
[21:00] <psichas> hi
[21:01] <Andy80> in which folder is located my "Trash"? I cannot find ~/Trash, ~/.Trash ecc.... any idea?
[21:01] <snwbrdr> hi
[21:01] <psichas> .trash001
[21:02] <aalooping> hi
[21:02] <ech0s7_> where can i find how to compile kernel on ubuntu natty ?
[21:02] <Pici> !trash | Andy80
[21:02] <psichas> hey :D
[21:02] <Pici> !kernel | ech0s7_
[21:02] <fendell> tensorpudding, i'm using 2 GeForce GTX 460, and cant increase resolution, and cant activate effekts. Is there some configuration i need to do with the SLI
[21:02] <Andy80> thanks Pici !
[21:03] <tensorpudding> i don't know anything about SLI
[21:03] <ech0s7_> thanks Pici
[21:03] <ech0s7_> Pici, i have also seen this link but there isn't wiki for natty
[21:04] <aalooping> hi, I had a question: under linux, I write a program that use a .so, I put the .so in the same folder of my executable file. but I have this error:  error while loading shared libraries: libgloox.so.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:04] <fendell> tensorpudding, ok thanks anyway
[21:04] <aalooping> can you help me please?
[21:04] <snwbrdr> Does anyone else set up to send sms vis console ?
[21:05] <tensorpudding> aalooping: that's not how it works
[21:05] <tensorpudding> bah
[21:05] <tensorpudding> don't ask questions and then leave
[21:05] <ech0s7_> Pici, i have also seen this link but there isn't wiki for natty
[21:06] <Pici> ech0s7_: anything past Lucid should work the same.
[21:07] <Firefishe> I have an Asus G50V running Ubuntu Lucid.  There is a physical slide-switch on the outside of the laptop for the wireless card.  When I boot into Lucid, with the switch off, I don't have wireless on the desktop (KDE 4.5.x - using nm-applet).  I usually have to reboot with the switch on, then all works fine, and can access networks from nm-applet's menu.
[21:07] <Firefishe> I want to know how I can reinitialize the wireless card without having to reboot.
[21:08] <fendell> Is there anyone that know if i need to configure SLI on my 2 GeForce GTX 460 in 10.04 LTS, cause i cant up the resolution and cant activate effekts.
[21:08] <Torne> my monitor doesn't do EDID because it's old and crappy. is there a remotely sensible way to get it to let me select 1280x1024?
[21:08] <maco> !resolution | Torne there are instructions for adding more modes with xrandr here
[21:08] <eipi-1> Firefishe, , did you try to reload or manually load the wifi modules?
[21:09] <Firefishe> eipi-1: Yes.  Here's my module output:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/616085/
[21:10] <Firefishe> eipi-1: The module is iwlagn for the Intel Wifi 5100
[21:10] <Firefishe> eipi-1: I've insmodded, modprobed, and done everything I know of to make it work.  I always end up having to reboot, make sure the slide-switch is ON, then I'm okay.
[21:11] <Firefishe> eipi-1: I mean, it's no big deal, I'm just trying to solve a problem for fun.
[21:11] <je0rjey> bit.ly/wIuZr
[21:11] <wink_> can someone help me sort out a sources.list problem?  i have a box running jaunty and anytime i touch apt i get tons of 404s (update included).  I can't seem to produce a working sources.list, can anyone help me out?
[21:12] <je0rjey> wink_, try this link bit.ly/wIuZr
[21:12] <Pici> wink_: Jaunty has reached its End of Life and its repositories were archived, so you will not be able to get any more updates.
[21:12] <zertyu> hello
[21:12] <xangua> wink_: jaunty is no longer supported, upgrade to  supported distro
[21:12] <wink_> Pici: i dont want updates, i want to be able to dist-upgrade
[21:12] <wink_> and i cant
[21:12] <alaing> anyone know if a channel exists for classic ASP?
[21:12] <zertyu> how to check if an port is open on a particular server ?
[21:13] <nimbiotics> Hello all. (ubuntu 11.04), I'm having update manager poping, but when I try to update or check, I get error messages shown at http://paste.ubuntu.com/616095/ How can I fix this? TIA!
[21:13] <wink_> is there any way to get apt running enough to allow me to dist-upgrade?
[21:13] <celthunder> zertyu: telnet/netstat
[21:13] <Pici> wink_: karmic, the next release is also EOL. See  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[21:13] <jkoudys> Can I set the appmenu in ubuntu unity so that it displays the title and the filemenu all the time, not only the filemenu when I put my cursor to the top?
[21:13] <Pici> je0rjey: Please don't post meaningless links here.
[21:13] <zertyu> how to netstat ? celthunder
[21:13] <alaing> how can i update my ubuntu 10.04 server edition to the latest one from shell
[21:13] <wink_> i'll upgrade as far as i need to, but right now i cant do anything short of rebuilding the machine which would be miserable
[21:13] <xTuMoHx> Всем привеи
[21:13] <alvaritolalala> ç
[21:14] <celthunder> zertyu: login to the server and netstat -nL will show listening ports
[21:14] <alvaritolalala> Hi
[21:14] <xTuMoHx> Всем привет
[21:14] <Pici> !ru | xTuMoHx
[21:14] <tensorpudding> !ru | xTuMoHx
[21:14] <xTuMoHx> English mIRC?
[21:15] <alvaritolalala> I've got a problem with my laptop. It's very old and I don't know how to fit it, I've tried almost everything I've found on the internet but it does not work. My laptop does play any sound when connectinng headphones, any help?
[21:15] <wink_> Pici: so am i screwed or is there a way to convince apt to allow me to upgrade this box?
[21:15] <xangua> wink_: download ubuntu from ubuntu.com and fresh install
[21:15] <wink_> that has to be the worst solution ever :p
[21:15] <alaing> how can i update my ubuntu 10.04 server edition to the latest one from shell
[21:15] <Gskellig> still no unity working =(
[21:15] <shomon> hi, I was just on here a while back. I've booted from hiren's boot cd, into a linux live cd. I then downloaded an iso for natty, and now I extracted the iso contents to a directory on the external hard drive
[21:15] <celthunder> alvaritolalala: using pulse/alsa/oss?
[21:16] <shomon> how do I now set it up so I can install linux by booting from the hd?
[21:16] <xTuMoHx> русские есть?
[21:16] <shomon> no cds so this seems the only way
[21:16] <eipi-1_> Firefishe, and iwconfig or ifconfig -a ?
[21:16] <alvaritolalala> celthunder: I've just installed a fresh 11.04, so the one that comes by default
[21:16] <celthunder> shomon: you can install from hdd by using debootstrap....
[21:16] <Pici> wink_: If you just need one package, you can change your /etc/apt/sources.list to point to "http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main" and similar, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Jaunty to upgrade to another release.
[21:16] <xangua> !upgrade | alaing
[21:16] <shomon> how to I get debootstrap celthunder ?
[21:16] <Firefishe> eipi-1_: One sec, I'll get them.
[21:16] <celthunder> alvaritolalala: pavucontrol and set the default output to the headphone
[21:17] <zertyu> perfect celthunder
[21:17] <alaing> thanks xangua
[21:17] <alvaritolalala> celthunder: it does not work
[21:17] <zertyu> now how to check system performence like netstat
[21:17] <alvaritolalala> just silence
[21:17] <celthunder> alvaritolalala: what about it
[21:17] <celthunder> shomon: one sec
[21:17] <shomon> thanks
[21:18] <xTuMoHx> Who is from Russia???
[21:18] <shomon> I'm looking it up, but it seems to be a separate package. not sure I can compile stuff from this live cd
[21:18] <xangua> !ru  | xTuMoHx
[21:18] <wink_> Pici: perfect, that seems to be upgrading me to karmic, once thats done, will i need to dist-upgrade again?
[21:18] <Pici> xTuMoHx: Use #ubuntu-ru or ##russian
[21:18] <celthunder> shomon: what's your build distro you're building it from?
[21:18] <Pici> wink_: Yes, you'll need to upgrade to at least lucid to be supported.
[21:18] <shomon> um...
[21:19] <celthunder> shomon: i thought you said you wereinstalling from hdd?
[21:19] <wink_> ok, is there a similar sources.list for the karmic -> lucid upgrade?
[21:19] <shomon> I downloaded the latest ubuntu as iso
[21:19] <Gskellig> can someone help me with unity
[21:19] <xTuMoHx> thx
[21:19] <shomon> I just downloaded natty, and I extracted it to the hdd
[21:19] <celthunder> shomon: then use the livecd installer...debootstrap is for installing from the hdd
[21:19] <shomon> but now I want to figure out how to use that to install
[21:19] <shomon> I just dumped it in a subdirectory
[21:19] <shomon> so I guessed I might need to configure the autoload file
[21:19] <Firefishe> eipi-1_: Here's the output:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/616102/
[21:19] <shomon> autorun even
[21:20] <maco> shomon: you're supposed to burn the iso to a cd or a flash drive
[21:20] <Dulak> wink_: stick to LTS releases, and upgrade LTS to LTS, to avoid this kind of issue.  lucid is the last LTS, next LTS is april 2012 iirc
[21:20] <shomon> I don't have cds here...
[21:20] <skrappjaw> how does one use a git repo?
[21:20] <shomon> or I might but under a bed where someone is sleeping :*
[21:20] <maco> shomon: or a flash drive?
[21:20] <wink_> Dulak: yeah, duly noted.  i've just gotta get this thing up to lucid first :p
[21:20] <ashmew2> skrappyjaw : www.github.com/help/
[21:20] <Dulak> skrappjaw: install git-core
[21:20] <shomon> I have an external hd and I know my computer will boot from it
[21:20] <maco> shomon: how about 2 computers connected on a network? in that case you can set upa PXE server on one and PXE boot the one you want to install to
[21:20] <shomon> because it recognised it on boot this time
[21:21] <celthunder> shomon: uhm make a chroot from the livecd on your hdd and then rn the files off the hdd partition you're using to start from? idk...i use debootstrap remotely or usbstick if local
[21:21] <Gskellig> can someone help me get unity working? it wont start
[21:21] <_Neytiri_> how do i update via cmd line
[21:21] <celthunder> Gskellig: what's the error
[21:21] <alaing> xangua: from reading those notes am i right in thinking i need to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 to 11.04?
[21:21] <shomon> usbstick - I'll look that up celthunder thanks
[21:21] <ashmew2> skrappyjaw : OOPS , wrong link , here's the correct one : http://help.github.com/set-up-git-redirect/
[21:21] <sneakyimp> >	hello all. I'm interested in using git-gui and gitk (with the nifty graphical user interface) on my Ubuntu 10 desktop. Can anyone explain how to install? Got a link?
[21:21] <celthunder> _Neytiri_: apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:21] <ZykoticK9> _Neytiri_, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[21:21] <Gskellig> celtthunder, it just wont start
[21:21] <sneakyimp> I've tried the Ubuntu software center and I don't see it
[21:21] <cgroza> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:21] <Dulak> _Neytiri_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get safe-upgrade
[21:22] <kikki> Hi, how can I adjust my screen brightness on Ubuntu 10.10?
[21:22] <celthunder> Gskellig: ok...so it drops you to a terminal?
[21:22] <Gskellig> ive logged in with "ubuntu" not "ubuntu classic" i KNOW my hardware supports it because it was working fine before
[21:22] <Gskellig> gnome works
[21:22] <Gskellig> not unity
[21:22] <alaing> just a bit comfused about how to upgrade using the shell as most of those techniques require a gui and I'm operating a headless server
[21:22] <_Neytiri_> E: Invalid operation safe-upgrade
[21:22] <skrappjaw> thanks ashmew
[21:23] <shomon>  is a flash drive the same as an external usb hard drive?
[21:23] <shomon> I mean the definition in general
[21:23] <edbian> sneakyimp: sudo apt-get install git git-gui gitk
[21:23] <Dulak> _Neytiri_: use upgrade instead of safe-upgrade, you're running an old version
[21:23] <littlebearz> alaing: use ssh ?
[21:23] <ZykoticK9> _Neytiri_, safe-upgrade is an Aptitude not an apt-get option
[21:23] <sneakyimp> edbian: thx.  will that also install the GUI interfaces?
[21:23] <Gskellig> anyone?
[21:23] <_Neytiri_> its 10.4
[21:23] <edbian> shomon: They are the same except that a Hard drive usually is a disc.  A solid state drive there is no difference
[21:23] <alaing> littlebearz: i am connecting to it using ssh
[21:24] <edbian> sneakyimp: git-gui and gitk   ;)
[21:24] <alaing> xangua: from reading those notes am i right in thinking i need to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 to 11.04?
[21:24] <shomon> edbian: so I should be able to get ubuntu to boot from it
[21:24] <shomon> thanks
[21:24] <celthunder> shomon: no...both will work though...
[21:24] <Dulak> ZykoticK9: good call i'm too used to aptitude
[21:24] <xangua> alaing: yes
[21:24] <kikki> Hi, how can I adjust my screen brightness on Ubuntu 10.10?
[21:24] <edbian> shomon: From a USB HDD?  Sure.  You can boot from any USB storage device provided your motherboard allows you too.
[21:24] <s_p_or_t_o> howdy, i'm trying to stream video via a samba shared folder and the color is off (green) anyone have any ideas?
[21:24] <shomon> ah good. making a chroot seems like not the simplest way to get my hard drive to be bootable
[21:24] <ZykoticK9> Dulak, ;)
[21:24] <littlebearz> alaing: can't you just delete the / and install new ver and move files back?
[21:24] <celthunder> kikki: fn+brightness key or on the monitor itself ?
[21:24] <eipi-1_> Firefishe, at the moment it seems to work pretty well, right? it would be interesting what the output is when wifi doenst work, so maybe reboot with killswitch off and get those outputs? also what happens in tail -f /var/log/syslog | grep wlan0 and then switch on the killswitch
[21:24] <xangua> if you want latest alaing
[21:25] <celthunder> s
[21:25] <kikki> celthunder, it does not work.
[21:25] <littlebearz> alaing: wait, nvm, u're ssh would be gone
[21:25] <kikki> celthunder, fn + brightness key doesnt work
[21:25] <shomon> edbian It does
[21:25] <sneakyimp> edbian: tyvm
[21:25] <celthunder> kikki: does it work in bios?
[21:25] <Firefishe> eipi-1_: Well, I'll give it a try.  Be back in a few.
[21:25] <shomon> so the only questino is how to get the contents of the iso I just extracted to a /boot dir in the hdd to actually boot
[21:25] <Gskellig> anybody have an idea for my unity issue?
[21:26] <alaing> littlebearz: thats what i'm worried about
[21:26] <Firefishe> eipi-1_: Thanks for your helpo with the fun :)
[21:26] <Firefishe> help
[21:26] <Gskellig> unity was working on this computer with a different install of 11.04, on THIS install it won't work
[21:26] <fr00g> Does anyone know why GnoMenu is partially behind my panel?
[21:26] <kikki> celthunder, the changing of screen brightness works when i start the computer but after a while like 5 minutes it will stop working.
[21:26] <celthunder> shomon: dd if=....isofile of=/dev/<usbdrive
[21:26] <edbian> shomon: I think the easiest way is to make a partition on the external and use the usb creator and point it at that partition
[21:26] <alaing> littlebearz: i now know i need to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 to 11.04
[21:26] <edbian> shomon: if of works too I suppose
[21:26] <celthunder> shomon: er ...yeah replace relevant parts obviously
[21:27] <littlebearz> alaing: yeah, i'm pretty sure there's tutorial on google that wouldn't need to reinstall ssh
[21:27] <alaing> littlebearz xangua : if i upgrade will a not be able to connect to it using ssh ?
[21:27] <eipi-1_> Firefishe, np cu soon ;)
[21:27] <celthunder> shomon: gl i'm going to work
[21:27] <shomon> thanks celthunder and edbian
[21:27] <whiteybulger> how can i make Skype + unity work corretly ?
[21:28] <Firefishe> eipi-1_:  When I do the 'tail...' command, should I also do the same instance *after* switching it on?
[21:28] <cgroza> whiteybulger, it already works
[21:28] <whiteybulger> cgroza: the icon for skype, plus new messages, does not appear correctly in the upper right of the taskbar
[21:28] <Gskellig> someone help me fix unity?
[21:29] <xangua> whiteybulger: if you mean integrate it with the me menu, there is a tutorial on omg!ubuntu! blog
[21:29] <antihero> Hey people, I'm trying to get a sshfs to mount whenever my interface is up, so I made a script in /etc/network/if-up.d and /etc/network/if-down.d but when I do ifconfig eth0 down/up it doesn't mount the sshfs. Why would this be?
[21:29] <xangua> me menu, indicators, envelope
[21:29]  * linuxnewb says hello
[21:30] <llutz> antihero: use ifup/ifdown, not ifconfig. ifconfig won't trigger those scripts inside /etc/network/*.d
[21:30] <cgroza> 16:30 *** Ownies JOIN
[21:30]  * linuxnewb is addicted to linux
[21:30] <sneakyimp> edbian:  OK I've run apt-get install git git-gui gitk and i see no addition applications in my applications menu, i see no context menu integration in the file system gui, and there are no git* apps in /bin or /sbin or /etc.
[21:30] <cgroza> whiteybulger, same here, but i have'nt given atention to that
[21:30] <eipi-1_> Firefishe, when calling tail with the -f flag, it continuously gives out messages. so start it before switching it on and keep it running for some time after. you can also check if modules are loaded and if not load iwlcore and iwlagn. keep tail running and pastebin all of it
[21:30] <whiteybulger> xangua: thanks.  that seems like a lot of work!
[21:30] <antihero> what does the -e mean after #!/bin/sh
[21:30] <antihero> llutz: Thanks
[21:31] <edbian> sneakyimp: hang on
[21:31] <cgroza> antithero, man sh
[21:31] <kikki> Hi, how can I adjust my screen brightness on Ubuntu 10.10? fn + brightness buttn stops working after 5 minutes for some odd reason
[21:31] <edbian> linuxnewb: who isn't?
[21:31] <Gskellig> kikki, what laptop?
[21:31]  * linuxnewb ^^
[21:31] <kikki> Gskellig: hp dv 6000 pavilion
[21:31] <xangua> linuxnewb: do you have any support question¿
[21:31] <alaing> littlebearz xangua : if i upgrade will a not be able to connect to it using ssh ?
[21:31] <tanath> i need to run wine with sudo on live disc, but i get "wine: /home/ubuntu/.wine is not owned by you". any help?
[21:32] <llutz> antihero: http://shellmariachi.wordpress.com/2007/10/05/hello-world/
[21:32] <Gskellig> hm, i dont know, i had to apply a fix to get my brightness keys working, but it was well documented
[21:32] <edbian> sneakyimp: Go to a folder with a git repo in it already.  Run gitk
[21:32] <xangua> alaing: why not¿
[21:32] <cgroza> antihero, do: man sh
[21:32] <alaing> xangua:  so if i upgrade i shouldn't need to reinstall/setup ssh
[21:33] <Gskellig> kikki, its doubtful this can help you, but this fixed brightness keys on my asus ul30vt...
[21:33] <Gskellig> http://wiki.daviddarts.com/Ubuntu_Maverick_on_the_Asus_UL30VT#Screen_Brightness_.28Backlight.29
[21:33] <Gskellig> maybe something similar for HP?
[21:33] <xangua> alaing: aah.... unless you want to
[21:33] <NoPinky> helloo
[21:33] <antihero> woo! it worked
[21:33] <Gomaaz> somebody has experience with yaboot?
[21:33] <Gomaaz> [22:33:18]  <Gomaaz> can't boot linux after installation on my G5 Tower
[21:33] <rinkukokiri> how do I change the UI back to that of previous installs?
[21:33] <linuxnewb> xangua, not right now, thank you :)
[21:33] <rinkukokiri> I really hate this unity bs
[21:33] <alaing> xangua: no i dont want to have to setup ssh all agai nas my server is headless
[21:33] <rww> linuxnewb: select "Ubuntu Classic" at the login screen
[21:33] <Gskellig> rinkukokiri, log out, login with the option "ubuntu classic"
[21:33] <linuxnewb> rww, ok will do
[21:33] <rinkukokiri> kk
[21:34] <xangua> !classic | rinkukokiri
[21:34] <rww> linuxnewb: eep, sorry, wrong person
[21:34] <alaing> I'm busy working through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades Network Upgrade for Ubuntu Servers (Recommended)
[21:34] <NoPinky> anyone here has experience with installing ubuntu on pogoplugs?
[21:34] <linuxnewb> rww, ah ok np :)
[21:35] <przemyslaw> witam czy zastalem kogos z polski??
[21:36] <Pici> !pl | przemyslaw
[21:36] <asoltys> hi i'm trying to run the unity launcher editor described here: http://ubuntuguide.net/manage-ubuntu-11-04-unity-launcher-quicklist-using-unity-launcher-editor  but apparently i need the PyGI library.  can someone help me install it? google's not being very helpful and i don't know python
[21:36] <Fafali> hello
[21:37] <kikki> Gskellig: if sudo setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=1A doesn't work on terminal, will this method work at all?
[21:38] <Gskellig> probably not.
[21:38] <Gskellig> also that guide is specefic for my laptop
[21:38] <Gskellig> it would be different for an HP
[21:38] <alaing> any good vim tutorials?
[21:38] <Gskellig> my laptop did have the exact same problem though
[21:38] <Gskellig> brightness keys would work for like 30 seconds after boot then quit for me
[21:39] <je0rjey> can somebody tell me how to port forward in linux
[21:39] <Gskellig> it still shows the brightness OSD going up and down but not the actual brightness
[21:39] <tanath> need help running a windows app to scan home folder from live disc. no matter what i do there's permissions issues
[21:40] <Koobilitoo> Dang KM0201 your're not on are you
[21:40] <grendal-prime> or a decent swf editor
[21:40] <grendal-prime> grrrr
[21:40] <trism> asoltys: seems like you should only need python-gobject and gir1.2-glib-2.0
[21:40] <Koobilitoo> how do i get ubuntu to recognize my usb devices?
[21:40] <grendal-prime> i just want to make some drop down menu type thangs.
[21:40] <_Neytiri_> how do i show hte current OS verson?
[21:40] <edbian> tanath: Why do you need a windows app to do that?
[21:40] <rww> !version
[21:41] <Koobilitoo> !usb
[21:41] <tanath> edbian, because i need to remove windows malware
[21:41] <Koobilitoo> no hmm
[21:41] <PL4Y3R> Does ubuntu have a system defrag
[21:41] <PL4Y3R> ?
[21:41] <tanath> edbian, and clam sucks
[21:41] <ZykoticK9> kikki, you man need acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor in your default grub line - that solved brightness issues on me EEE for me
[21:41] <tanath> edbian, my .wine is infected
[21:41] <_Neytiri_> well i guess it didnt really upgrade cause its still 10.04.2
[21:42] <edbian> tanath: Mmmm, I'm not sure how you can do that.   Wine apps can't see your home folder.  Perhaps you could simply download the ext4 driver for windows and then run your apps natively?
[21:42] <salat> hey..i backuped a partition with partimage. so i got 49 compressed files. the problem is...the first backup file got lost. is there a way to restore most of the data without the first file?
[21:42] <tanath> edbian, don't have windows
[21:42] <wink_> Pici: I'm following: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Jaunty but when i run do-release-upgrade it's trying to jump me up to lucid from jaunty and it's failing.  how do i convince it to upgrade me to karmic first?
[21:42] <Nu> THIS ISNT THE RIGHT SERVER
[21:42] <Nu> ugh
[21:42] <edbian> tanath: ... They why do you care about windows malware?
[21:42] <tanath> edbian, except in a vm
[21:42] <edbian> tanath: mmmm
[21:42] <tanath> edbian, like i said, my .wine is infected
[21:42] <Koobilitoo> I'm wondering how to get Ubuntu to recognize all my usb devices?
[21:42] <PL4Y3R> Does ubuntu have system defrag
[21:42] <edbian> tanath: What?
[21:43] <edbian> tanath: What do you mean your .wine is infected?  What makes you say that?
[21:43] <ZykoticK9> PL4Y3R, not an issue with EXT formatted partitions
[21:43] <Gskellig> wine can get viruses? lol
[21:43] <ZykoticK9> PL4Y3R, ext3 can have some fragmentation issues actually
[21:43] <tanath> edbian, got trojans
[21:43] <edbian> PL4Y3R: ext automatically defrags for you with every read and write so you never have to manually
[21:43] <ZykoticK9> Gskellig, only a select few, but yes
[21:43] <tanath> edbian, can you help or not?
[21:44] <Nu> Can anyone tell me the difference between X-Chat gnome and regular X-Chat? I'm liking it less because of its lack of an opening list
[21:44] <fr00g> How do I disable compiz shadows altogether?
[21:44] <zertyu> how to
[21:44] <Gskellig> that's amusing
[21:44] <edbian> tanath: Just delete the trojans?
[21:44] <PL4Y3R> k thanks
[21:44] <ZykoticK9> edbian, not really - it doesn't fragment to begin with
[21:44] <zertyu> hello there
[21:44] <Koobilitoo> Gnome-xhat is a lesser version
[21:44] <Koobilitoo> u want Xchat
[21:44] <wink_> I'm following: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades/Jaunty but when i run do-release-upgrade it's trying to jump me up to lucid from jaunty and it's failing.  how do i convince it to upgrade me to karmic first?
[21:44] <Gskellig> can someone help me get unity working
[21:44] <Nu> k
[21:44] <tanath> edbian, need to do so from live disc. it protects itself
[21:44] <edbian> tanath: If I'm frustrating you I apologize. Only trying to understand so I can help
[21:44] <zertyu> how to get starting with manpage
[21:44] <Gskellig> unity wont start for me. its not a hardware issue
[21:44] <zertyu> ?
[21:44] <Nu> BE RIGHT BACK THEN AFTER I GET XCHAT
[21:44] <Nu> or mIRC
[21:44] <cgroza> Nu, use irc on emacs, :D
[21:44] <tanath> edbian, ran something i shouldn't have. got infected. protects itself from removal, so need to do so from live disc
[21:44] <Nu> Wait
[21:44] <Nu> why the hell is this nick registerd?
[21:45] <Nu> I've never been on this server..
[21:45] <sneakyimp> edbian:  ok modest success.  i did a git on a project and ran the command you suggested.  i know see the gitk window -- what about git-gui?  any idea?
[21:45] <PL4Y3R> and plus ever since i switched from mac os to ubuntu i've been have trouble using the net
[21:45] <Koobilitoo> Edbian
[21:45] <edbian> tanath: But it's only in wine.  Surely you can just delete that trojan or delete the entire .wine
[21:45] <tanath> edbian, user 'ubuntu' on live disc has different UID than my user, so no permission to access
[21:45] <llutz> PL4Y3R: extfs fragments over the time too and there is no defragmentation tool available
[21:45] <Koobilitoo> Can u tell me how to get all my usb devices recognized?
[21:45] <ZykoticK9> tanath, do you have anything installed in wine that you care about?  if you don't, just delete your ~/.wine folder - problem solved ;)
[21:45] <robin0800> Gskellig, it might be or driver issue
[21:45] <tanath> edbian, no, there's stuff in there i don't want to lose. and i'd have to find all the files which are infected. need to scan to even do that
[21:45] <oCean> !defrag
[21:45] <edbian> sneakyimp: in gitk: file -> start git gui
[21:46] <Gskellig> robin0800, its an on board intel graphics card
[21:46] <Gskellig> it worked fine in the livecd
[21:46] <edbian> tanath: sudo command on the live CD
[21:46] <tanath> edbian, ZykoticK9 i need to either run wine as root (would be easiest) or do something else
[21:46] <CrazyT> Hi im running crunchbang linux, in ubuntu what is the out put of your sudo apt-get install lamp?
[21:46] <tanath> edbian, running wine as root complains that /home/ubuntu/.wine is not owned by you
[21:46] <edbian> tanath: sudo wine somefile.exe
[21:46] <edbian> tanath: mmmm I see
[21:46] <ZykoticK9> CrazyT, there is no "lamp" packages, it is in tasksel
[21:46] <PL4Y3R> ever since i switched from mac os to ubuntu i've been having trouble connecting to the net.what should i do
[21:47] <tanath> edbian, only thing i can find googling is advice to never run wine as root. but that advice doesn't apply here
[21:47] <Koobilitoo> Is my text coming through?   How do you know this trojan is even running?
[21:47] <tanath> edbian, i need to do so anyway
[21:47] <cgroza> CrazyT, can't find the package
[21:47] <tanath> edbian, yes
[21:47] <Nu> yay
[21:47] <cgroza> CrazyT, you need to install apache
[21:47] <tanath> edbian, uh, i know it's not, because i'm on a live disc :P
[21:47] <edbian> tanath: How do you know the trojan is running?  Wine is not an operating system.
[21:47] <CrazyT> I used to run ubuntu i forgot what i wrote to install lamp
[21:47] <CFC> yo every body =3 i have a tiny problem ^^;;; anyone know how to get vsftpd working after installing and opend ports it refusses to connect and i do know i did encrypt my folders anyone that can help????
[21:47] <edbian> tanath: If you boot Ubuntu is the trojan running?
[21:47] <tanath> edbian, but my system is rather infected. i can't remove it when system is running
[21:48] <Nu> 1635.. wasn't expecting that high of a number for some reason
[21:48] <tanath> edbian, i think so, 'cause i can't remove it
[21:48] <overclucker> tanath: you could try clamav
[21:48] <sneakyimp> edbian:  thanks for that.  you rule!  any thoughts on integrating via file manager context menu?
[21:48] <tanath> overclucker, clam doesn't even detect anything any time i point it at stuff
[21:48] <edbian> tanath: Here is the bottom line, there is no way that a windows trojan infected your Ubuntu os through wine.
[21:48] <tanath> edbian, you are wrong
[21:48] <edbian> sneakyimp: Naw,  glad I could help though!
[21:48] <PL4Y3R> tanath do a clean install of ubuntu that should do it
[21:48] <Nu> So yes. Why is this name registered? Like I said, I've never been here =/
[21:49] <tanath> edbian, it certainly can happen, it's just rare
[21:49] <oCean> CrazyT: this channel does not provide support for crunchbang, try #crunchbang
[21:49] <j33bus> LUEshi brain on
[21:49] <edbian> tanath: You said you cannot remove it.  How have you tried to remove it?
[21:49] <oCean> Nu: maybe try #freenode channel? This is ubuntu support
[21:49] <tanath> PL4Y3R, too much work remembering and reinstalling apps
[21:49] <Koobilitoo> i think my name is registered tooand i tried to picka really hard one lol
[21:49] <PL4Y3R> but if u have very important documents on your pc back up most of them
[21:49] <tanath> edbian, that's a silly question
[21:49] <Nu> Never been here as in never been on this server.
[21:49] <PL4Y3R> tanath,back up some stuff
[21:49] <CrazyT> oCean i know im in their also, i was once a ubuntu user too i just forgot ... My brain is just dead :P
[21:49] <tanath> edbian, how else would i know it can't remove it? i spend two days scanning and trying to remove
[21:50] <PL4Y3R> what trojan is it
[21:50] <edbian> tanath: Using the file manager?  using CLI?  as sudo?  using clamav?
[21:50] <Koobilitoo> I have an Ubuntu question have asked twice already
[21:50] <oCean> CrazyT: ubuntu uses tasksel to install those packages
[21:50] <tanath> PL4Y3R, detects them as generic names
[21:50] <Koobilitoo> What do I need to do to get ubuntu to notice all usb devices
[21:50] <PL4Y3R> list me the names
[21:50] <tanath> edbian, using malware bytes, mainly. it cannot complete the scan though
[21:51] <CFC> =/
[21:51] <edbian> tanath: In the virtual machine or in wine?
[21:51] <tanath> edbian, even scanning from inside VM brought down the VM
[21:51] <tanath> edbian, both
[21:51] <bolovanos> hi
[21:51] <edbian> tanath: Is the trojan 'in wine' or in the vm?
[21:51] <PL4Y3R> you runing 2 virus programs
[21:51] <tanath> edbian, did i mention i spent two days scanning and crap? :P
[21:51] <CFC> anyone know how to get vsftpd working after installing and opend ports it refusses to connect and i do know i did encrypt my folders anyone that can help????
[21:51] <tanath> edbian, both unfortunately
[21:51] <oCean> !who | PL4Y3R
[21:51] <cgroza> Koobilitoo, which one are recognized, front, back?
[21:51] <edbian> tanath: How did you manage that?
[21:51] <tanath> edbian, ran the same thing inside and outside
[21:51] <edbian> tanath: ahh, I see
[21:51] <Koobilitoo> front
[21:52] <Koobilitoo> i mean hold on
[21:52] <edbian> tanath: Well the VM has restore points. Did you ever set one?
[21:52] <llutz> CFC: check vsftpd-logs, what error when connecting?
[21:52] <tanath> edbian, yeah, but too far back.. would rather not use it. anyway, if i can get rid of it/them from wine, i should be able to manage in the vm
[21:52] <Koobilitoo> i didnt see that Cgroza until like it flew up the screen lol
[21:52] <je0rjey> how do u set the netmask so that every ip is included
[21:52] <Nu> does wine work with doom 2?
[21:52] <oCean> !appdb | Nu
[21:52] <ZykoticK9> edbian, i don't think my KVM+libvirt VMs have restore point ;)
[21:52] <tanath> Nu, should
[21:52] <llutz> je0rjey: /0
[21:53] <Nu> HIGHLIGHTS
[21:53] <metroider> what happened to the power manager graph --is it possible to get it back?
[21:53] <PL4Y3R> ubottu how agian? lost my glasses somewhere
[21:53] <ZykoticK9> Nu, Doom 2 was a DOS program - it will work in DOSBOX
[21:53] <dart> I think a recent natty update to xorg has created some problems in my system...Where do i report this?
[21:53] <Nu> It was DOS? Odd. I dont remember that
[21:53] <Nu> OH WELL
[21:53] <CFC> llutz Error:	Network error: Connection refused
[21:53] <CFC> Error:	Could not connect to server
[21:53] <cgroza> Koobilitoo, did you do a lsusb?
[21:53] <edbian> tanath: So, in wine.  Besides malware bytes telling you about this trojan.  Can you tell it is running?
[21:54] <Koobilitoo> didnt know about it
[21:54] <Koobilitoo> i will try
[21:54] <edbian> tanath: Does malware bytes tell you what file it is?
[21:54] <llutz> CFC: " Connection refused" means, nothing listening on this port. check "netstat -tulpen" for vsftpd running, check iptables-rules etc.pp
[21:54] <tanath> edbian, don't think so. but i figure it must be to be shutting down mbam
[21:54] <tanath> edbian, no, it can't complete the scan...
[21:54] <CFC> it is
[21:54] <CFC> 22
[21:54] <CFC> thats the port
[21:54] <llutz> CFC: 22 is ssh, are you sure?
[21:54] <tanath> edbian, did once, so i saw generic names, but now it doesn't even complete
[21:54] <CFC> unless 11.04 is changed
[21:54] <cgroza> Koobilitoo, this will list all recognized USBs it recognizes
[21:55] <Koobilitoo> yes i found it
[21:55] <Koobilitoo> it listed all of them
[21:55] <Koobilitoo> but the usb stick when inserted doesnt pop up
[21:55] <CFC> i cant even connect with putty
[21:55] <cgroza> it means they are detected, the problem is somewhere else
[21:55] <Koobilitoo> why is your text in red?
[21:55] <Koobilitoo> lol
[21:55] <llutz> CFC: what are you talking about, ssh or ftp?
[21:55] <tanath> edbian, anyway, i'm trying to run nod32 scanner from live disc which seems to work better, but i need to be able to point it at the folder with permissions...
[21:55] <Koobilitoo> i tired to open a dialouge box with you
[21:55] <CFC> ftp
[21:55] <cgroza> Koobilitoo, because i address to you.
[21:55] <Koobilitoo> oh ok
[21:55] <llutz> CFC: why do you run ftp on port 22 (ssh-port)?
[21:55] <edbian> tanath: I have no idea.  Frankly.  I don't believe that you have a trojan 'running in wine'  It is possible it is running in the VM (likely even).  I think your best bet is to look up manual removal of the trojan for windows and do that in the virtual machine.
[21:56] <Koobilitoo> is it invisible to others?
[21:56] <edbian> tanath: sudo nod32  /path/to/folder
[21:56] <cgroza> Koobilitoo, yes
[21:56] <tanath> edbian, seriously? you're doubting it's infected?
[21:56] <llutz> cfc what has putty to do with it? its a ssh-client, not ftp
[21:56] <CFC> O.o its set to that
[21:56] <edbian> tanath: Or whatever, if you use sudo you will not have a permission issue
[21:56] <sw0rdfish> is it a bad idea to install aptitude?
[21:56] <Koobilitoo> how do i do it too?
[21:56] <edbian> tanath: wine is not an operating system
[21:56] <tanath> edbian, i don't know what trojans are there
[21:56] <cgroza> Koobilitoo, you need to put the username in front of the line
[21:56] <Koobilitoo> example please
[21:56] <sw0rdfish> does it mess up anything
[21:56] <tanath> edbian, again, can't run sudo wine. wine won't let me
[21:56] <CFC> well dosent putty run on 22??
[21:56] <tanath> edbian, forget about the VM for now
[21:56] <llutz> cfc what has putty to do with it? its a ssh-client, not ftp
[21:56] <oCean> Koobilitoo: if you talk to a specific person, just start the line with that persons nickname. You can use tab to complete the nickname, for example type oce<tab>
[21:56] <PL4Y3R> tanath:is my name yellow
[21:57] <Koobilitoo> cgroza oh ok
[21:57] <tanath> edbian, why are you saying 'wine is not an operating system' i know this...
[21:57] <CFC> err
[21:57] <tanath> PL4Y3R, huh?
[21:57] <Dulak> sw0rdfish: i prefer aptitude, it's much better at resolving dependencies than apt-get
[21:57] <Koobilitoo> cgroza, hi
[21:57] <cgroza> Koobilitoo, problem solved?
[21:57] <Koobilitoo> let me see
[21:57] <CFC> vsftpd has the port 22 when installed
[21:57] <Koobilitoo> yes!
[21:57] <tanath> edbian, i just want to know if there's a way to run wine with sudo. that would be best/simplest/easiest
[21:57] <CFC> and putty runs the same port
[21:57] <llutz> CFC: not by default
[21:57] <cgroza> Koobilitoo, ok
[21:58] <CFC> o.o
[21:58] <sw0rdfish> aha
[21:58] <CFC> had last time
[21:58] <edbian> tanath: chown root:root ~/.wine    sudo wine <whatever>
[21:58] <Koobilitoo> 1 * for Cgroza
[21:58] <llutz> CFC: you don't make any sense, bye
[21:58] <tanath> edbian, i jumped through your hoops to explain why...
[21:58] <Koobilitoo> u get 100 u get a kewl award haha
[21:58] <CFC> <.<
[21:58] <edbian> tanath: I realize that.  You asked how to run wine as root, that should do it.
[21:58] <CFC> what a support this is
[21:58] <sw0rdfish> i remember once in backtrack it messed up some things but i guess thats completely
[21:58] <sw0rdfish> different
[21:58] <sw0rdfish> !aptitude
[21:58] <edbian> tanath: I wont force you to do what I want.
[21:59] <m4v> 7j
[21:59] <tanath> edbian, dammit, i tried a few variations on that already that didn't work
[21:59] <PL4Y3R> i'm have trouble connecting to the net sometime i had mac os up here but i put ubuntu mac was fine
[21:59] <tanath> edbian, that did it. thanks
[21:59] <je0rjey> llutz, it says /0 is a invalid subnet mask
[22:00] <alaing> i need some help with an upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10. I am trying  to upgrade my headless server usign ssh. I have downloaded the and started the upgrade. it has got to a package config screen and wants me to check libc6. what is this?
[22:00] <je0rjey> in cidr notation is it <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[22:01] <alaing> it says services to restart for gnu libc library upgrade
[22:01] <shomon> I keep getting /dev/sr0 is write protected.. how do I get it read write so I can burn an iso on it?
[22:01] <tanath> edbian, scanning away. i'll let you know what i find ;p
[22:01] <alaing> followed by gdm vsftpd rsync mysql con atd
[22:01] <alaing> what exactly is this?
[22:01] <edbian> tanath: sure
[22:01] <Blubas> hey everyone
[22:02] <ZykoticK9> shomon, how are you trying to burn the cd/dvd?  a normal cp won't work.
[22:02] <je0rjey> what is the subnet mask for all the ip addresses.. my firewall blocks all incoming packets except for those from the exception list
[22:02] <edbian> ZykoticK9: How do you burn a DVD via the command line?
[22:02] <cgroza> Blubas, hi
[22:02] <shomon> mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/dvd ZykoticK9
[22:02] <ZykoticK9> edbian, growisofs
[22:02] <je0rjey> so to set the rules what should be the source ip and its netmask
[22:02] <edbian> je0rjey: <IP_ADDRESS>  makes no restrictions
[22:02] <clooluss> Hi. I want to make one of the folders in my home folder available to other users on this computer. I have created a group and put the relevant users in it, but how do I give access to that group. Also, can I give them access to the sub-folder without giving access to the home folder?
[22:02] <n1xNc0d3> how can i get info of any app using how much bandwidth?
[22:02] <Blubas> any idea on how to remove all the unwanted programs I have in my Ubuntu? Removal by using Synaptic usually leads to me removing important stuff, too...
[22:02] <edbian> ZykoticK9: I have a .iso  Can I use dd?
[22:02] <shomon> well, without the ZykoticK9 :)
[22:02] <Koobilitoo> anyone else ever use Bleacbit?
[22:03] <Koobilitoo> Bleachbit I mean
[22:03] <cgroza> Blubas, programs like?
[22:03] <YankDownUnder> Bleachbit? What's the point?
[22:03] <ZykoticK9> edbian, not entirely sure - i would have said no, but just read someone using that method today (perhaps in this channel earlier)
[22:03] <tanath> bleachbit, yes
[22:03] <edbian> clooluss: yes you can.  chmod <you>:<thatGroup> /path/to/folder
[22:03] <tanath> handy
[22:03] <PL4Y3R> Zykotick9: i need help having a net issuee
[22:03] <edbian> ZykoticK9: ok thanks
[22:03] <YankDownUnder> Bleachbit => what's the point?
[22:03] <ZykoticK9> shomon, that "should" mount for reading the cd/dvd ok - but you can't write with that method
[22:03] <Blubas> cgroza, the calculator, the dictionary, sound recorder, and so on...
[22:03] <tanath> YankDownUnder, quick and easy way to clean up some stuff
[22:03] <shomon> well, I want to write an iso to it
[22:03] <Gskellig> i have absolutely no idea why unity isn't working
[22:04] <tanath> free up space and get rid of clutter
[22:04] <shomon> how do I mount it like that?
[22:04] <YankDownUnder> tanath, That, my friend, is paranoia established in an MS world.
[22:04] <Gskellig> installed it twice with the same cd. first time unity worked fine, second time it wont start
[22:04] <Night-Hacks> hi
[22:04] <tanath> YankDownUnder, paranoia? what is?
[22:04] <Night-Hacks> for using gnome 3  i installed sudo aptitude install gnome-shell
[22:04] <cgroza> Blubas, you can remove them with sudo apt-get remove <program-name>, the others stuff are only dependencies.
[22:04] <Night-Hacks> is it enough ?
[22:04] <edbian> YankDownUnder: tanath believes that his wine has a trojan
[22:04] <tanath> YankDownUnder, bleachbit? it's not a security tool, how do you fit paranoia in there?
[22:04] <YankDownUnder> Programs like "Bleachbit" are fairly meaningless under unix/BSD/linux
[22:05] <tanath> edbian, i think mbam is more reliable than you
[22:05] <Blubas> cgroza, is there any way to remove only the programs themselves, and not all the dependencies?
[22:05] <xangua> !gnome3 | Night-Hacks
[22:05] <YankDownUnder> IF there's a trojan/backdoor under WINE, that is easily resolved by just deleting the root of the WINE prefix.
[22:05] <cgroza> !bleachbit
[22:05] <shomon> how do you mount a dvd so it's writable? (it is a drive that can write to dvd)
[22:05] <edbian> tanath: I believe malwarebytes is finding a file that is a trojan.  I do not believe that trojan is running
[22:05] <tanath> YankDownUnder, i know, but there's stuff in there i don't want to lose
[22:05] <mattk> Is there an up to date guide similar to this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/OverSSH
[22:05] <ZykoticK9> YankDownUnder, that was my suggestion ;)
[22:06] <tanath> edbian, you have nothing to base that on
[22:06] <Night-Hacks> xangua: so ive just installed gnome-shell
[22:06] <bolovanos> trying to install 32bit office 2010 (single exe file) on Ubuntu 11.04 (wine ver. 1.2.2 ), extraction ends with "Setup Errors" - need msxml ver. 6.10.1129. How can Fix thix? Is there anybody who succeeded - according to this http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=31 I guess not. Thanks for any help.
[22:06] <Tommo> Gents/Ladies - is anyone finding the apt-get update process slow this evening?
[22:06] <Night-Hacks> not gnome3
[22:06] <YankDownUnder> tanath, Then you can manually look in the WINE prefix and find what's NOT supposed to be there...besides, it's hard to write to the WINE registry, or get the WINE registry to do anything without your express knowledge...
[22:06] <tanath> edbian, there are apps that run every time wine is run, for instance. no reason a trojan can't do same. and would explain why mbam shuts down before finsihing scan when it gets to a certain point
[22:06] <PL4Y3R> tanath: wine might not have a trojan isnt it a windows emulator
[22:06] <bastidrazor> Tommo: pick a different mirror if the download is slow.
[22:06] <ZykoticK9> bolovanos, try in #wine-hq (i think)
[22:06] <qin> #winehq
[22:07] <tanath> PL4Y3R, it's a compatibiility layer
[22:07] <Tommo> bastidrazor - thanks - will try that (doh!)
[22:07] <ZykoticK9> qin, thanks
[22:07] <bastidrazor> Tommo: you're welcome. that is the most common fix for an overloaded mirror
[22:07] <bolovanos> thx - already in just nobody react :( ... waiting
[22:07] <tanath> YankDownUnder, simpler to use tools that know how to deal properly with the malware. manual removal isn't as reliable anymore
[22:07] <clooluss> edbian: that got me "chmod: invalid mode: `matt:home' " where matt is my username and home is the groupname - surely I should have some permission bits in there somewhere..?
[22:08] <Koobilitoo> some of the User-Ids cause me great Joy :D
[22:08] <tanath> malware has been getting more and more advanced and difficult to remove
[22:08] <PL4Y3R> well i don't belive it's a trojan some times when a virus program picks up something from another os or in you case and emulator it well alert u saying it's a trojan
[22:08] <cgroza> tanath, thats why i use linex
[22:08] <ZykoticK9> tanath, not on gnu/linux systems ;)
[22:08] <edbian> clooluss: sorry, chown!  not chmod :P
[22:09] <sixfour>  sixfour
[22:09] <YankDownUnder> tanath, Bleachbit has been known to hose a linux box, mate....by mucking with system libs and processes that shouldn't be mucked with. But hey, whoever wants to install it, well, that's yer story...
[22:09] <tanath> i'm sorry, but you guys don't know enough about what you're talking about
[22:09] <Koobilitoo> Chown is present tense for already starting to eat am Chown? lol
[22:09] <tanath> YankDownUnder, if you don't knwo what you're doing, yeah it can do that
[22:09] <tanath> YankDownUnder, wouldn't recommend it for everyone
[22:09] <edbian> tanath: what apps run when wine runs?
[22:10] <clooluss> ok that looks more promising. i will log out now and test it from another user accounts. Thanks.
[22:10] <tanath> edbian, spybot beta for instance
[22:10] <YankDownUnder> tanath, I don't and won't use it for my clients - nor here in the lab - regardless.
[22:10] <tanath> edbian, 2.0
[22:10] <maco> ZykoticK9: rootkits for *nix make it plenty hard to detect/remove malware. i remember a story bout 2-3 year ago where someone found their linux box had been owned for a good long while but hidden due to a rootkit
[22:10] <Night-Hacks> im using kernel 2.6.32 on my ubuntu 10.04
[22:10] <tanath> YankDownUnder, mm. i don't really use it either TBH, i just found it handy for a few things. and i'll prolly stick to those things when i run it again
[22:10] <ZykoticK9> maco, lol 2-3 years ago eh?  Imagine for a moment the number of windows infections in that time ;)
[22:11] <Night-Hacks> how can i update to latest kernel ?
[22:11] <maco> ZykoticK9: bigger targets get hit more? who'da thunk
[22:11] <xangua> !latest | Night-Hacks
[22:11] <cgroza> Night-Hacks, you must compile it from the latest branch
[22:11] <PL4Y3R> maco:u talkin bout a botnet
[22:11] <maco> tanath: if you rename the .wine directory and start with a clean one, the renamed one will be inert in the meantime (since wine will only look for the correctly named one), allowing you to pick through what's good/bad
[22:11] <ZykoticK9> maco, bad logic there - aren't servers more appealing to "own" then home computers - linux dominates that market
[22:11] <tanath> maco, yeah, and once you have a rootkit you can never be sure of being clean again
[22:11] <Night-Hacks> so what's the stable for my version ?
[22:12] <maco> PL4Y3R: there was a trojan in 2009 on gnome-look.org that put you onto a botnet too
[22:12] <tanath> maco, i know this. tried that... no good. seems to run any time wine runs
[22:12] <qin> Yes, my machines where in botnet for years, it was called SETI ;)
[22:12] <tanath> maco, or possibly without wine
[22:12] <maco> tanath: oh now thatd be interesting. first to report a new linux malware strain....
[22:12] <cgroza> Night-Hacks, I am sure google will tell.
[22:13] <PL4Y3R> maco:i know how to start one i'm not comlelty usless
[22:13] <maco> Night-Hacks: packages.ubuntu.com
[22:13] <tanath> maco, 'tis certainly possible anyway
[22:13] <tanath> maco, i'd rather do something i'm reasonably sure will get rid of stuff. scanning from live disc
[22:13] <maco> tanath: well if its a new linux virus, there wouldnt be a definition for it yet....
[22:13] <PL4Y3R> Maco:but now a days it hard tryin to get away with a botnet to easy to pick up unless your king of leet
[22:14] <tanath> maco, no reason to think it's a virus. i do suspect rootkit though
[22:14] <maco> PL4Y3R: just how many people do you think sit around checking their netstat output constantly?
[22:14] <tanath> maco, spybot beta 2 has rootkit stuff and it found stuff in the vm, which is also infected
[22:14] <cgroza> maco, pou would need to enter your password to install that virus
[22:14] <maco> cgroza: so?
[22:14] <PL4Y3R> maco: alot of paroind people
[22:14] <tanath> maco, two things. one of which was MSE rootkit stuff (which i removed in ignorance) and the other unknown
[22:14] <cgroza> maco, big STOP
[22:14] <maco> cgroza: "hi, i'm a new theme!" "ok! *enter password to install theme*"
[22:15] <maco> cgroza: the trojan in '09 claimed to be a screensaver
[22:15] <cgroza> maco, that's why repos exist
[22:15] <tanath> maco, well all detections i've seen thus far have been generic trojan/rootkit stuff
[22:15] <iridium> i'm pr0n, gimme yout passwd to see my boobs
[22:15] <maco> cgroza: yes, but not everybody follows the "stick to the repos" advice
[22:15] <maco> cgroza: a lot of people are just plain gullible...or impatient
[22:15] <PL4Y3R> maco: but it wouldnt happen if you wouldnt download stuff you not supposed to the people that check there netstat alot are the people who download from piratebay
[22:15] <cgroza> maco, their bad, it still cannot transmit from PC to PC like in windows
[22:15] <qin> iridium: mypass
[22:15] <tanath> maco, that's what system monitor applet is for
[22:16] <Pici> !ot
[22:16] <clooluss> I'm afraid the chown command didn['t work either - I logged in as the other user and tried to ls into the folder but access was denied
[22:16] <maco> PL4Y3R, cgroza: does the fact that people *shouldn't* install untrusted software change the fact that they *do*?
[22:17] <cgroza> maco, of course not, but infections would be isolated, so it is not a big deal
[22:17] <iridium> qin: KTHXBYE
[22:17] <PL4Y3R> maco: well people that do are stupid then next thing u know the fbi is bustin down your door
[22:17] <tanath> PL4Y3R, not necessarily. everyone makes mistakes
[22:17] <everlast21> Hello. I have a question. I am trying to triple boot my late 2009 iMac with Mac OS X, Windows 7, and Ubuntu Studio Natty Narwhal.
[22:17] <maco> PL4Y3R: you realise you just called like 99% of computer users stupid?
[22:17] <clooluss> I created the user from the system > admin > users and groups gui. Should i have created it from the command line instead?
[22:18] <tanath> PL4Y3R, and FBI... what?
[22:18] <everlast21> It loads Ubuntu, but I gt a blank sereen.
[22:18] <everlast21> *screen
[22:18] <cgroza> maco, the greatest security risk is the user.
[22:18] <PL4Y3R> maco: i'm talkin bout torrenting what u talkin bout
[22:18] <maco> PL4Y3R: trojans
[22:18] <clooluss> everlast21: Does it boot OK from a live CD?
[22:18] <tanath> PL4Y3R, you assume torrenting is bad?
[22:18] <maco> cgroza: of course. which is why "linux is totally secure" is a bunch of bologna
[22:19] <pcpower> if you want more secure, try openbsd
[22:19] <edbian> clooluss: no that's fine
[22:19] <tanath> maco, does anyone actually think/claim that?
[22:19] <everlast21> I thought Ubuntu Studio does not have a live option. I get the install screen, but that's it.
[22:19] <nite613> I've got a machine throwing disk errors at me that I want to reboot. 'reboot' and 'shutdown -r now' both return with no errors but do nothing. Anything else I should try before the power switch?
[22:19] <rww> tanath: yup
[22:19] <tanath> indeed
[22:19] <maco> pcpower: no computer is secure if it has a power source
[22:19] <PL4Y3R> tanath: no not that bad i used to torrent i quit when my pc messed up
[22:19] <pcpower> maco: I said "more secure", not "secure"
[22:19] <cgroza> maco, do a fresh install, leave it running connected to the internet and it is secure, put a user in front of it, its over
[22:19] <tanath> rww, heh, well if you take such comments in the context they were intended in they might be more reasonable...
[22:19] <clooluss> how can I check what groups have what permissions over a particular folder?
[22:19] <ZykoticK9> maco, "no computer is secure if it has a power source" < awesome ;) as well as true.
[22:20] <edbian> clooluss: ls -l /path/to/folder
[22:20] <sudokill> biggest problem is the user. easiest way to secure pc is to unplug from internet bla bla
[22:20] <pcpower> ls
[22:20] <tanath> PL4Y3R, you blame torrenting? rather than your ability to determine what to download/run? :P
[22:20] <maco> cgroza: depends how many zero day exploits you know :) used to be you could pwn a macbook through the ethernet drivers
[22:20] <D3814N> hello, how can I recover files from an ext4 formatted harddisk?
[22:20] <ZykoticK9> !undelete
[22:20] <arand> !undelete | D3814N
[22:20] <maco> or was it wireless? meh. network driers
[22:20] <cgroza> maco, what are the chances of that happenning on my PC?
[22:21] <cgroza> maco, and what are the chances of that happenning on windos :P
[22:21] <ZykoticK9> D3814N, apply what is said about ext3 to ext4 as well i'm afraid
[22:21] <maco> cgroza: how common's your hardware and how many people are out to get you?
[22:21] <cgroza> maco, common, 0
[22:21] <zertyu> hello there
[22:21] <PL4Y3R> tanath: that was when i was a computer noob
[22:21] <tanath> mm
[22:21] <clooluss> drwxr-x---
[22:22] <zertyu> during apache installation i got postgresql is that normal ?
[22:22] <D3814N> tnx ZykoticK9
[22:22] <tanath> PL4Y3R, i take issue with the implication that torrenting is bad though
[22:22] <edbian> clooluss: is that a question?
[22:22] <qin> tanath: I really cannot listen to you anylonger? Are you just silly sysadmin, or trying be interesting?
[22:22] <ZykoticK9> clooluss, do you understand what the drwxr-x--- means?
[22:22] <tanath> PL4Y3R, it's one of the most efficient means of mass distribution
[22:22] <arand> D3814N: I was through that process recently, I got about 2% or less of relevant data out of it, though it was always something.
[22:22] <tanath> qin, what'd i say?
[22:22] <edbian> qin: oh thank god.  I thought I was going crazy
[22:23] <qin> tanath: Whole this tyrade, focus on support.
[22:23] <PL4Y3R> tanath: u gonna let him talk to u like that
[22:23] <edbian> hahahahaha
[22:23] <tanath> qin, what'd i say?
[22:23] <clooluss> edbian - that is the output of the ls command you recommended.
[22:24] <edbian> clooluss: those are linux file permissions   http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html
[22:24] <D3814N> also tnx arand
[22:24] <edbian> clooluss: read up :)
[22:24] <ZykoticK9> clooluss, that means the user owner of that directory has full permissions - group owner has read and ENTER and everyone else has no rights!
[22:24] <PL4Y3R> i wish this was like the piratechat but it got shutdown :(
[22:25] <clooluss> ok, so characters 5,6 and 7 represent the group permissions - is that ALL groups or can I narrow it down to certain groups?
[22:25] <edbian> clooluss: it's the group owner listed to the left of that.  It goes that thing, owner, group owner, everybody else when you look at ls -l
[22:25] <ZykoticK9> clooluss, SUUUGGGOOO - S for special, U for User, G for group, and O for other - everything else
[22:26] <clooluss> So if other users in my group can theoretically read and execute that folder, why do I get an "access denied" error when i log in as one of those users and try to ls the folder? I have checked group memberships.
[22:26] <ZykoticK9> clooluss, the 5-7 is the group owner - also listed in the ls -l
[22:26] <edbian> clooluss: Is the file owned by that group?
[22:27] <edbian> clooluss: Who and what group owns the folder?
[22:27] <edbian> tanath: Did you find that trojan yet?
[22:27] <clooluss> I guess I own the folder. I created it. i just want the other users to be able to see the files in it.
[22:28] <tanath> edbian, actually, just found some adware which crashed the scanner... even from live disc... O_O
[22:28] <ZykoticK9> clooluss, could you give the full output of "ls -l"?
[22:28] <ZykoticK9> clooluss, by default the group will probably you YOUR user as well (both user and group as you)
[22:29] <tanath> edbian, '...encountered a serious error and needs to close..."
[22:29] <clooluss> drwxr-x---  70 matt home    12288 2011-04-30 00:27 Photos
[22:29] <clooluss> matt is my username. home is the group I created.
[22:29] <ZykoticK9> clooluss, oh that's owned by matt and the group is home - but home can't write to that directory
[22:29] <tanath> edbian, perhaps it has a 0day buffer overflow that affects malware scanners?
[22:29] <clooluss> home can't read it either
[22:30] <tanath> edbian, would explain why it seemed to be protecting itself no matter how i scanned it
[22:31] <Gskellig> I need a unity PRO
[22:33] <boson12> Hi everyone!
[22:33] <cgroza> hi
[22:33] <fern> hi
[22:33] <sakuragno> i'm using xubuntu10.10 and i need to fix scanner problem: i've a canon mp160 multifunction. printer works well but xsane recognize the scanner but cannot comunicate with it.. some suggestions?
[22:35] <boson12> I am trying to install a package. I am told the following: "the shell commands `./configure; make; make install' should
[22:35] <boson12> configure, build, and install this package." Does this mean that I need to input such commands followed by the package name?
[22:35] <birdmandont> i want to share some files for downloading at a remote location, and have a spare power edge 2650 server.  Whats the best/fastest way to do it, FTP, or like samba or something?
[22:35] <qin> boson12: No, what you intend to install?
[22:35] <cgroza> boson12, no, you cd into the source folder and run those commands
[22:36] <xangua> !compile | boson12
[22:36] <cgroza> boson12, it is rocommended to install it from a deb or repos, so you can uninstall it later easily.
[22:36] <clooluss> i am trying to give other users on my pc access to a folder in my home folder. I have created a group and put boith users in it. I have changed the group permissions to r-x. The other user still gets "access denied" when trying to ls the folder. Can anyone tell me where I'm going wrong?
[22:36] <tanath> edbian, according to wine crash output it tried to schedule a job
[22:37] <tanath> edbian, damn thing tries to infect anything that scans it
[22:37] <tomaszjk> hello
[22:37] <cgroza> hi
[22:37] <boson12> Thanks everyone, let me try what you've told me.
[22:37] <bencc> how can I use the fact that $HOME/bin is in the user's path?
[22:38] <ZykoticK9> bencc, "echo $PATH"
[22:38] <tomaszjk> hi
[22:38] <bencc> I've tried creating a test.sh in $HOME/bin/test.sh but can't run it if I'm not in this folder
[22:38] <ZykoticK9> bencc, oh sorry misread - but scripts/bins in that directory
[22:38] <tanath> bencc, that's how it should be
[22:38] <ZykoticK9> bencc, is it executable?  "chmod +x test.sh"
[22:38] <tanath> bencc, current working directory isn't in $PATH for security reasons
[22:38] <cgroza> bencc, did you mark it executable?
[22:39] <boson12> ubottu, by "pre-built packages" you mean packages that are already compiled?
[22:39] <tanath> bencc, need to specify path with ./something
[22:39] <bencc> ZykoticK9: it's not there
[22:40] <ZykoticK9> bencc, what's not there?  "chmod ~/bin/test.sh" ?
[22:40] <cgroza> tanath, isn't that for running scripts in current directory?
[22:40] <bencc> that's my path: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[22:40] <tanath> cgroza, or to whatever path you specify
[22:40] <tanath> cgroza, like, ./path/to/app
[22:40] <bencc> ZykoticK9: maybe I need to login again?
[22:41] <ZykoticK9> bencc, if you just created the ~/bin directory - log out / back in and try the "echo $PATH" again
[22:41] <cgroza> bencc, it does not seem that your directory is in the path.
[22:41] <qin> bencc: your test.sh is not in path
[22:41] <bencc> ZykoticK9:  ok
[22:41] <cgroza> tanath, thanks
[22:41] <tanath> np
[22:41] <clooluss> i am trying to give other users on my pc access to a subfolder in my home folder. I have created a group and put both users in it. I have changed the group permissions on the subfolder to r-x. The other user still gets "access denied" when trying to ls the folder. Can anyone tell me where I'm going wrong?
[22:41] <qin> ZykoticK9: hm, I think he can just export PATH, or source .bashrc
[22:42] <ZykoticK9> qin, true!
[22:42] <petrolman> Hi, I m testing Ubuntu 11.04 for the first time and I checked the opened connections with netstat. Can someone explain to me why there are connection to cannonical.com? e.g. barbadine.canonical:www CLOSE_WAIT  tbarth  23625 1760/gvfsd-http
[22:42] <tanath> clooluss, change ownership on folder to group?
[22:42] <bencc> after login it works
[22:42] <clooluss> tanath: how do I do that?
[22:43] <Pici> petrolman: Are you using Ubuntu One?
[22:43] <bencc> ZykoticK9: cgroza: qin: after login again "test.sh" works
[22:43] <tanath> clooluss, chown user:group
[22:43] <jackbob> hi. I recently installed windows xp on an extra partition. How do I reinstall the ubuntu bootloader? I've done it with the old grub in arch linux but I don't know how to do it with the new one
[22:43] <tanath> clooluss, man chown
[22:43] <jackbob> if it's different at all
[22:43] <MykehDoom> Hey everyone I wanted to ask a question.
[22:43] <xangua> !grub2 | jackbob
[22:44] <jackbob> thanks bot bro
[22:44] <cgroza> bencc, you added your yath in bashlrc?
[22:44] <cgroza> .bashrc**
[22:44] <bencc> cgroza: by default $HOME/bin is included in the path in the .profile file
[22:44] <pcpower> grub2 is default? then why do I have 0.97 in 10.10...
[22:44] <petrolman> Pici, I   m not aware of it, I m just listening to internetradio with the new Banshee
[22:44] <cgroza> bencc, ok, thanks
[22:45] <bencc> cgroza: but after you create the folder you have to logout/login to make it work
[22:45] <bencc> cgroza: probably there is some over way to refresh this info but I don't know it
[22:45] <cgroza> pcpower, that how they call that version, grub2, versions under it are called grub legacy
[22:46] <pcpower> cgroza: "GRUB 2 should display a version number of 1.96 or later. Legacy GRUB is version 0.97."
[22:46] <pcpower> and it says legacy uses menu.lst and not grub.cfg when I have grub.cfg, yet it says 0.97
[22:47] <cgroza> pcpower, you are using grub 2
[22:47] <petrolman> Pici, yes I ve found a process: /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon
[22:47] <ZykoticK9> pcpower, did you upgrade?  I believe that gives different grub then a fresh install.
[22:47] <Pici> petrolman: There you go then.
[22:47] <petrolman> Pici, but I havent started it yet, hm
[22:48] <diglife> test
[22:48] <ZykoticK9> diglife, fail
[22:50] <MykehDoom> How do I run a .run file as root?
[22:50] <pcpower> ZykoticK9: nope no upgrade
[22:51] <RA_drc> !stages
[22:52] <cgroza> !grub-legacy
[22:52] <cgroza> !grub2
[22:52] <MykehDoom> How to I run a .run file as the root?
[22:53] <cgroza> 1.97 is Grub 2 because Karmic had it
[22:53] <pstewart> MykehDoom: sh ./file.run  should work
[22:53] <tanath> MykehDoom, if you're sure you want to... "cd /path/to/file; sudo ./file"
[22:53] <Firefishe> eipi-1_: Heya...still lurking about?
[22:54] <lahwran> are there any file managers that are at least as powerful as nautilus and crash less than it?
[22:54] <tanath> pstewart, not without sudo
[22:54] <MykehDoom> The file is on my desktop it's called like ubuntuchrome.run
[22:54] <lahwran> on the same note, is there a way to keep the gtk open and save dialogs from resorting the files after opening?
[22:54] <tanath> pstewart, unless you're suggesting he shouldn't need root
[22:54] <MykehDoom> So I just put sudo ./ubuntuchrome.run and it'll run?
[22:54] <pstewart> tanath: depends whether you are root or not, but yeah :)
[22:54] <Firefishe> lahwran: Thunar may be of interest to you.
[22:54] <tanath> pstewart, well he was asking how to run as root, yes?
[22:54] <clooluss> I have read the man chown and I really don't understand what is going. Do i want it owned by a user or a group? What is the difference? What is the significance of the username in the command chown user:group?
[22:54] <MykehDoom> How do I set myself as the root user?
[22:54] <ZykoticK9> MykehDoom, what is that file?
[22:55] <tanath> MykehDoom, with 'sudo command'
[22:55] <MykehDoom> It's a file to make ubuntu look like google chrome
[22:55] <tanath> MykehDoom, 'sudo ~/Desktop/ubuntuchrome.run'
[22:55] <ZykoticK9> MykehDoom, wish i hadn't asked ;)
[22:55] <tanath> MykehDoom, but where'd you get that file?
[22:56] <tanath> oh, nvm
[22:56] <MykehDoom> Oh uhh I can't remeber off the top of my head, but it changes the look to chrome, like the ubuntu logo is the google chrome logo and stuff.
[22:56] <ZykoticK9> MykehDoom, FYI - if the file isn't marked as executable some of the suggestions above will fail.
[22:56] <tanath> MykehDoom, in terminal run "chmod +x ~/Desktop/ubuntuchrome.run && sudo ~/Desktop/ubuntuchrome.run"
[22:58] <clooluss> tanath: I have read the man chown and I really don't understand what is going. Do i want my subfolder owned by a user or a group? What is the difference? What is the significance of the username in the command chown user:group?
[22:58] <tanath> clooluss, files/folders are owned by both
[22:58] <Guest78546> help i did a  sudo aptitude full-upgrade it gives me W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0 what do i do?
[22:59] <tanath> clooluss, you should be user owner, and you should be in the group taht you give its ownership to
[22:59] <clooluss> tanath; If they are owned by boht... what is the point of changing ownership with the chown command?
[22:59] <tanath> clooluss, the user:group specifies the files user and group ownership
[23:00] <tanath> clooluss, because you can set user and group permissions. as rightful owner you want to be the user owner, but you want to set group permissions so those in said group can do things
[23:00] <tanath> clooluss, then you add users to said group
[23:00] <ZykoticK9> did Guest78546 leave or change nics?
[23:01] <tanath> clooluss, maybe google 'chown' for examples and explanations
[23:01] <djmaster2437> when i did the terminal sudo apt-get upgrade it gives me  ( W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0 ) what do i do plz help me
[23:01] <clooluss> tanath: So.... the folder is owned like this:  drwxr-x---  70 matt home    12288 2011-04-30 00:27 Photos    and both users are in the group "home" - but if log is as the other user and try to ls the folder, it says "access denied." I don't see where I've gone wrong.
[23:01] <ZykoticK9> djmaster2437, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1119287
[23:02] <ZykoticK9> djmaster2437, in future use the add-apt-resporitory (or similar) command for adding PPAs and it will look after the key stuff for you
[23:02] <KaTo> Have everyone notice that ubuntu 11.04 is extremely slow and unstable or it is only with my machine????
[23:03] <tanath> clooluss, sorry your grammar is unclear from the word "log" on..
[23:03] <zertyu> hello there
[23:03] <zertyu> what is git ?
[23:03] <tanath> clooluss, "is as"?
[23:03] <ZykoticK9> zertyu, source code / development software
[23:03] <pvthodson> hey everyone
[23:03] <clooluss> sorry. If I log out of my user and log in as the other user in the group"home" I should be able to access the other folder. But I don't - I try to ls the subfolder but it tells me "access denied"
[23:04] <zertyu> i don't get ZykoticK9
[23:04] <kristof> hello, I have just downloaded a recently large file and accidently closed it without saving. Any chance that it is still retreivable on my computer?
[23:04] <tanath> clooluss, er, try making the user owner group as well
[23:04] <RevSpecies116> zertyu: A code management system developed by Linus Torvald - the creator of linux
[23:04] <ZykoticK9> zertyu, i "believe" it's Linus' replacement to cvs (if you know what that is)
[23:04] <auk> KaTo, unstable yes a bit but slow not particularly. mostly i notice flash heating up the computer to the absolute max
[23:04] <tanath> clooluss, so, chown groupname:groupname
[23:05] <clooluss> missong perand after home: home
[23:05] <tanath> ?
[23:05] <zertyu> are you talking git clone ? ZykoticK9
[23:06] <ZykoticK9> zertyu, git clone - will copy from a git repository to your local machine
[23:06] <clooluss> tanath; I tried the command chown home:home and it responded with "missing operand after home:home"
[23:06] <jahernandes> #tokyotosho @ irc.rizon.net
[23:06] <zertyu> is it same as apt and wget ? ZykoticK9
[23:06] <tanath> clooluss, oh, operand. yeah, i didn't specify.. i thought you had a handle on how to use the command. you have to tell it what you want to operate on
[23:07] <RevSpecies116> Problem people, can't update to Pitivi v0.14 [just released]... Dependency problem
[23:07] <ZykoticK9> zertyu, not even close to either really - it's for getting source code
[23:07] <tanath> clooluss, basically you said 'do this' and it said 'to what'?
[23:07] <RevSpecies116> "/media/3039-3366/DCIM/MOVIES/test.webM"
[23:07] <clooluss> OK, i tried again with the folder path at the end. Now it says "invalid user home:home"
[23:07] <zertyu> ok
[23:08] <tanath> clooluss, worth a shot :P
[23:08] <zertyu> i can't find this package  ? libpng12
[23:08] <RevSpecies116> "pitivi: Depends: python-gtk2 (>= 2.18) but 2.17.0-0ubuntu2 is to be installed" is the actual error...
[23:08] <pstewart> clooluss: chown <user>:<group> /path
[23:08] <zertyu> how to install it ?
[23:08] <tanath> pstewart, he got that
[23:08] <pstewart> tanath: obviously not, since he did chown <group>:<group>
[23:09] <tanath> pstewart, at my suggestion. was a hail mary of sorts
[23:09] <clooluss> tanath: Do I need to give the other user / group access to the home folder that my Photos folder lives in?
[23:09] <tanath> clooluss, no
[23:10] <clooluss> This is very frustrating... >:-/
[23:10] <petrolman> :-)
[23:10] <tanath> clooluss, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=350067 see long post
[23:11] <pstewart> clooluss: where is this folder you are trying to share access to... /home/matt/Photos ?
[23:11] <djmaster2437> ZykoticK9, the info u gave me failed any other?
[23:12] <clooluss> pstewart. That is correct.
[23:12] <pstewart> clooluss: ok, then yes, you will probably need to grant the group 'home' access to /home/matt
[23:12] <tanath> clooluss, you can right-click to change permissions if you don't want write access
[23:13] <tanath> pstewart, shouldn't
[23:13] <tanath> pstewart, doesn't actually. that's a higher up folder
[23:14] <ZykoticK9> djmaster2437, did you run http://paste.ubuntu.com/616165/
[23:14] <djmaster2437> ZykoticK9, yes
[23:14] <clooluss> Would I solve the problem by moving the photos folder somewhere else on the HD? Somewhere higher up in the hierarchy or a different partition?
[23:15] <ZykoticK9> djmaster2437, looks like the wine PPA has been updated since you installed, for instructions see https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ppa
[23:15] <juniper_> I'm trying to setup a bridged connection on a ubuntu machine. It can see the local network fine but will not resolve Internet addresses. It simply says unknown host, can anyone help?
[23:15] <djmaster2437> ZykoticK9, Thank you
[23:15] <bastidrazor> clooluss: put a symlink in the 2nd users home directory to your photos. give them access tot he photos directory by giving them group rights.
[23:16] <eipi-1_> Firefishe, hey anything new?
[23:16] <RevSpecies116> Problem people, can't update to Pitivi v0.14 [just released]... Dependency problem
[23:16] <RevSpecies116> "pitivi: Depends: python-gtk2 (>= 2.18) but 2.17.0-0ubuntu2 is to be installed" is the actual error...
[23:16] <RevSpecies116> How does one now resolve this?
[23:17] <clooluss> bastidrazor - the group rights thing does not seem to work. I created a group, put both users in it, changed permissins on the folder to group+rx and the other user can't see the folder in question.
[23:17] <pstewart> tanath: ahh, righ tyou are.. my bad
[23:17] <pstewart> it's been a long day :P
[23:17] <ZykoticK9> RevSpecies116, see if you can find a PPA with python-gtk2 >= 2.18
[23:17] <tanath> pstewart, no one's immune to mistakes :P
[23:17] <Firefishe> eipi-1_: Yeah, Here's the output from the killswitch:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/616149/
[23:18] <bastidrazor> clooluss: the folder itself needs execute also. the files inside do not.
[23:18] <tanath> pstewart, or can be expected to know everything
[23:18] <osmosis> Any pointers to why my dell laptop mic isnt working on natty?  worked on hardy.
[23:18] <bastidrazor> clooluss: i read that as rw.. you made a symlink too?
[23:18] <ZykoticK9> RevSpecies116, you might be interested to see !latest (although the stability claim is a lie)
[23:18] <Rolauten> Hello ALl - I've got a few problems with desktop management. I run Xfce4 as my desktop manager and (before the update to 11.04) compiz as my window manager. After the update Nautilus attempts to take over the desktop on every login (removed this issue by removing nautilus but I would like a better solution) - and I can not get compiz to manage drawing the windows.
[23:18] <RevSpecies116> ZykoticK9: Looks like it's in the gtk2-dev package
[23:18] <clooluss> OK, I have chmodded it to +x - i will swith users now and try it out. I might be back shortly.
[23:19] <ZykoticK9> RevSpecies116, there you go!
[23:19] <halvor> hello
[23:19] <pstewart> tanath: haha yep.. i've been working on windows servers all day... i guess i've had parent folder inheritance ingrained in me today
[23:20] <tanath> pstewart, i figure that's not the issue since the permissions of the folder have been directly fiddled with
[23:20] <clooluss> Didn't work :-(
[23:21] <clooluss> drwxrwx---  70 matt home    12288 2011-04-30 00:27 Photos
[23:21] <mattk> How can I access my ubuntu install from a liveusb?
[23:21] <ZykoticK9> clooluss, as the other use, type "groups" and verify that home is listed
[23:22] <halvor> mattk: mount the partition
[23:22] <eipi-1_> Firefishe, switching off/on after boot with 'on' is no problem?
[23:22] <ZykoticK9> clooluss, you might be able to use "su OTHERUSERNAME" in a terminal to switch to that user (if you are logging in / out)
[23:22] <djmaster2437> mattk, are you using a netbook ?
[23:22] <mattk> halvor: can I install applications to it as well
[23:22] <halvor> mattk: i guess no
[23:22] <clooluss> i ran the groups command from this user, it responded like this:     heather : heather fax cdrom floppy audio video plugdev fuse netdev home
[23:22] <Firefishe> eipi-1_: I haven't tried that, yet.  Let me see (If I drop, I'll reboot, then be right back.)
[23:23] <redstar> i have a problem with unity and supertux
[23:23] <ZykoticK9> mattgriffin, if you chroot (described in !grub2 link) you can install from a livecd/usb
[23:23] <ZykoticK9> mattk ^
[23:23] <djmaster2437> mattk, r u using a netbook?
[23:23] <clooluss> and      matt : matt adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare home     for good measure
[23:23] <mattk> djmaster2437: no. but it's a headless system
[23:23] <mattk> djmaster2437: I installed it using ssh and ubiquity and now I need to install ssh
[23:24] <cache_surplus> i got this odd message from get.adobe.com/flashplayer. when i selected 10.04 download for 64bitflash player, it prompted for updating maverick sources.list then apt-curl tried to load it, then it said - adobe-plugin was virtual?
[23:24] <cache_surplus> flash ver is <IP_ADDRESS> i tried to load
[23:25] <Sleeparoo> hey guys
[23:25] <djmaster2437> mattk,  try sudo apt-get ssh
[23:25] <halvor> does anybody know a nice gtk app to convert videos to ipod touch 1g format?
[23:25] <Sleeparoo> Trying to install Ubuntu via a mini-cd. Do I have to pick "ubuntu desktop" at the end to install a graphical environment?
[23:25] <redstar> whenever i start supertux it shows the untity screen at a smaller resolusion and then when it quit, unity freezes
[23:25] <multipass> when i do dual monitors, when i have firefox opened up and say.. click on some links or open up a page, sometimes the page appears completly black. and it refreshes once i move the window.  Anyone know how to fix this?
[23:25] <edbian> Sleeparoo: no
[23:26] <ZykoticK9> halvor, you might want to check out Handbrake (it's not in the default repository however), there is a PPA
[23:26] <Firefishe> eipi-1_: Back.  The switch seems to work just fine after rebooting with it ON.
[23:26] <mattk> djmaster2437: I can ssh into the liveusb. That's what I am on right now
[23:26] <halvor> ZykoticK9: tried that...i can't install handbrake
[23:26] <Sleeparoo> edbian, ok, thanks
[23:26] <halvor> ZykoticK9: at least not from the ppas i've found so far
[23:26] <ZykoticK9> halvor, sorry i don't have any other suggestions.  Good luck.
[23:27] <petrolman> I accidently pressed the windows + d key of my keyboard, the Unity desktop went crazy.
[23:27] <tanath> Sleeparoo, you can use ubuntu-minimal
[23:27] <juniper_> how do I delete a gateway route for a interface ?
[23:27] <Sleeparoo> tanath, I think that's what I'm doing.
[23:28] <eipi-1_> Firefishe, strange.. As i too have a intel chip (6300) and a killswitch i will reboot and check that. brb
[23:28] <halvor> ZykoticK9: maybe it's a bit shameful but i'll try to use the win version of handbrake under wine :)
[23:28] <djmaster2437> mattk, can u get into terminal?
[23:28] <RevSpecies116> Bummer, dependency hell incoming... python-gth2-dev can't be installed due to:
[23:28] <Firefishe> eipi-1_: k..thanks
[23:28] <RevSpecies116> Depends: libglib2.0-dev (>= 2.8) but it is not going to be installed; Depends: libgtk2.0-dev (>= 2.13.6) but it is not going to be installed; Depends: python-gobject-dev (>= 2.15.3) but it is not going to be installed
[23:28] <tanath> juniper_, man route?
[23:28] <Sleeparoo> tanath, doesn't that come by default?
[23:29] <RevSpecies116> Then, further hell: libglib2.0-dev: Depends: libglib2.0-0 (= 2.24.1-0ubuntu1) but 2.25.14-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[23:29] <RevSpecies116> I'm not going to try the others... Solutions people?
[23:29] <ZykoticK9> RevSpecies116, don't use the latest version?
[23:29] <tanath> Sleeparoo, i'm not familiar with this mini-disc install, but it's in the repos, yes. you can install ubuntu-minimal if you want to uninstall ubuntu-desktop
[23:29] <RevSpecies116> ZykoticK9: That is certainly one solution :)
[23:29] <redstar> can anyone help me? I need supertux
[23:30] <Sleeparoo> tanath, I'm installing the mini-disc, BUT I only want to have the graphical scheme, i.e. no OpenOffice, no Evolution, etc
[23:30] <mattk> The computer is on. I have the liveusb in it and I have a terminal
[23:30] <tanath> Sleeparoo, then you want minimal
[23:30] <tanath> Sleeparoo, -desktop depends on evolution i think
[23:30] <RevSpecies116> Is supertux a Cereal, redstar ?
[23:30] <tanath> lol
[23:30] <redstar> no the game
[23:30] <edbian> tanath: Sleeparoo ubuntu-desktop will install gnome which definitely has evolution.
[23:31] <edbian> Sleeparoo: What gui do you want?  Gnome requires evolution IIRC
[23:31] <pvthodson> need help with x11 forwarding on ubuntu 11.04
[23:31] <RevSpecies116> Oh, did I just loose it... The game, that is?
[23:31] <redstar> i hav a problem w/ the game freezing
[23:31] <Sleeparoo> edbian, I just want some gui that has the least possible things, and then I want to install new stuff from there
[23:31] <tanath> edbian, gnome doesn't require evolution, i think. i use gnome, yet typically uninstall evolution
[23:31] <edbian> pvthodson: what specifically about it?
[23:31] <Juest> hi
[23:31] <mattk> djmaster2437: how do I mount the / partition?
[23:31] <redstar> and it freezes unity too
[23:31] <juniper_> tanath I'm RTFM right now. I was just hoping for a quick answer. Thanks though ^^
[23:31] <tanath> Sleeparoo, ubuntu-minimal is what you're looking for
[23:31] <edbian> Sleeparoo: I would go with lxde or xfce  There are MANY GUIs to choose from.
[23:32] <pvthodson> I can get applications but not a fully desktop
[23:32] <cache_surplus> i got this odd message from get.adobe.com/flashplayer. when i selected 10.04 download for 64bitflash player, it prompted for updating maverick sources.list then apt-curl tried to load it, then it said - adobe-plugin was virtual? what can i do now?
[23:32] <tanath> juniper_, mm. i don't recall off top of my head, so i'd be doing that to help you :P
[23:32] <ZykoticK9> tanath, remove evolution will remove the ubuntu-desktop metapackage... can cause issues, especially if trying to update.
[23:32] <Sleeparoo> tanath, ok, I'll see if I have that option
[23:32] <tanath> ZykoticK9, taht's what ubuntu-minimal is for
[23:32] <djmaster2437> mattk, what session r u runing?
[23:32] <edbian> pvthodson: That's what x forwarding is.  You can come close to a full desktop if you run nautilus and gnome-panel
[23:32] <ZykoticK9> tanath, well not really - but i see your point
[23:32] <tanath> Sleeparoo, dunno if you can get that option during install, but can make changes after
[23:33] <tanath> ZykoticK9, oh?
[23:33] <pvthodson> I was told you can get an entire gnome-session
[23:33] <tanath> ZykoticK9, if it's buggy without ubuntu-desktop, that'd be bugs, yes?
[23:33] <BrainVirus> Does anybody know anything about sarg and how to install it? Namely, I am having issues getting the webinterface working for it i.e. viewing reports
[23:33] <tanath> ZykoticK9, -minimal is there for a reason
[23:33] <ZykoticK9> tanath, not for Ubuntu.
[23:33] <auk> are there any possible problems with using a fedora live cd to gparted change the size of ubuntu / and /home partitions?
[23:33] <ZykoticK9> tanath, minimal is debian without Ubuntu stuff, why not just install Debian?
[23:34] <tanath> auk, shouldn't be. partitions are partitions
[23:34] <Sleeparoo> tanath, I'll see twhat I have...
[23:34] <auk> ...besides the standard "always back up before resizing a partition with data"
[23:34] <lnb> anyone know why screen becomes inverted and upside down when 'classic' is chosen in login menu?
[23:34] <tanath> ZykoticK9, is it? hunh...
[23:34] <sakuragno>  i'm using xubuntu10.10 and i've a multifuction  canon mp160 and printer works well  but i've some problem with scanner... xane recognize the scanner but cannot comunicate.. some suggestion
[23:34] <tanath> ZykoticK9, i like ubuntu, i just don't want some of the apps -desktop depends on. like bluetooth stuff. my comp doesn't even support it
[23:35] <ZykoticK9> tanath, oh i hear that!
[23:35] <stefjord80> prova
[23:35] <stefjord80> sa
[23:35] <stefjord80> sa
[23:35] <stefjord80> sa
[23:35] <mattk> djmaster2437: session? sorry
[23:35] <FloodBot1> stefjord80: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:35] <stefjord80> sorry
[23:36] <auk> tanath: ok thank you and... question about workings of gparted, when, say, making a / partiton smaller by 3 gigs, and sliding a /home partition over to use those 3 gigs, will data for the home partition actually be moved? the partition with remain more than large enough in both directions for the data on it
[23:36] <Juest> hi i use 11.04(upgraded from 10.10) and sound dosen't work. i also have troubles with applications, these troubles aren't related to sound but with hicolor-icon-theme ideas?
[23:36] <sakuragno>  i'm using xubuntu10.10 and i've a multifuction  canon mp160 and printer works well  but i've some problem with scanner... xane recognize the scanner but cannot comunicate.. some suggestion
[23:36] <halvor> pff##&&!! it's insane
[23:36] <halvor> hipo won't start
[23:36] <halvor> and the error message i get is only
[23:36] <tanath> auk, in that case, yes it should be
[23:36] <tanath> auk, will take a while
[23:36] <eipi-1> Firefishe, back. no problem to connect...
[23:36] <RevSpecies116> Juest: Ubuntu, and not another varient?
[23:36] <Juest> yes, main ubuntu desktop
[23:37] <djmaster2437> mattk, xfce, gnome, ect.
[23:37] <pvthodson> does anyone know how to start a remote gnome-session through x11 forwarding?
[23:37] <tanath> auk, if you move the partition, or expand it to the left, it moves the data in my experience
[23:37] <auk> tanath, the whole contents of the /home partition will be shifted 3 gigs over?
[23:37] <halvor> .gtkrc-2.0:4: the picture can not be found on pixmap_path: „/home/xxx/Nyilvános/panel-bg-and.png
[23:37] <tanath> auk, yup
[23:37] <edbian> pvthodson: ssh in and run nautilus then run gnome-panel   I already told you this
[23:37] <tanath> auk, hopefully you only need to do it once.... try to get it right :P
[23:37] <Firefishe> eipi-1: I've played around with the switch before.  It seems to just bring up the interface for a split second, but it drops it.
[23:37] <ZykoticK9> pvthodson, use VNC/NX for full desktop remote access - SSH + X forwarding works great, for individual applications
[23:37] <jagas> does anybody have some issues with wobbly windows, they lag and are pixelated
[23:37] <mattk> djmaster2437: I have ubuntu 10.04 install on virtualbox and that's how I ssh into the liveusb. My monitor doesn't work on my laptop so I'm trying to connect via my desktop
[23:38] <pvthodson> ok thanks guys
[23:38] <lnb> anyone know why screen becomes inverted and upside down when 'classic' is chosen in login menu?
[23:38] <Firefishe> eipi-1: It's like something is trying but it's not latching onto something.
[23:38] <RevSpecies116> OKies, steo one: On the Ubuntu Classic desktop, goto System->Preferences->Sound and check your soundcard is on the Hardware Tab
[23:38] <Sleeparoo> no ubuntu-minimal, I decided to go for the manual package selection
[23:38] <eipi-1> Firefishe, in your pastebin you had some "device state change: 3 -> 2 (reason 0)" where i get "device state change: 3 -> 4 (reason 42)"
[23:38] <Firefishe> eipi-1: I don't know if it's kernel issues or what.
[23:38] <auk> tanath: aww all 117 gigs :(... and the potential for data corruption in all that moving
[23:38] <tanath> auk, never had a prob with corruption or anything. should only be a prob if there's a power failure or something
[23:38] <eipi-1> Firefishe, what version are you running? kernel and ubuntu
[23:38] <tanath> auk, even then, could very well be recoverable
[23:39] <auk> tanath: well basically i overestimated the space i needed for / at install time, i guess i'll just leave it with some extra space
[23:39] <Juest> ummmm
[23:39] <tanath> auk, how much?
[23:39] <Juest> ......
[23:39] <tanath> auk, i gave mine like 18gb and ended up needing 2 more
[23:39] <pvthodson> vnc is to laggy for me to use are there any other alternatives
[23:39] <iceroot> pvthodson: nx
[23:39] <redstar> does anyone else hav unity freeze if u star supertux
[23:39] <Firefishe> eipi-1: Lucid 10.04 LTS and 2.6.32-32-generic
[23:39] <MonkeyDust> 18g for / ?
[23:40] <pvthodson> is that freenx
[23:40] <tanath> MonkeyDust, yeah, lots of games :P
[23:40] <RevSpecies116> Juest - do you have a System menu on your top panel?
[23:40] <iceroot> pvthodson: yes
[23:40] <iceroot> pvthodson: freenx is the gnu-version
[23:40] <tanath> MonkeyDust, alien area and all that take up a fair bit of space
[23:40] <Juest> whatever, i can't even start gnome-session
[23:40]  * MonkeyDust has no games and 6g for /
[23:40] <auk> tanath, well i gave it 14 gb cause in the past i gave it 10 and needed more, but i'm only using 6 currently :P
[23:40] <homiziado> I broke my ubuntu installation, making it unbootable, but I managed to mount the disk on a mac, is there any log of all the programs I installed with apt-get to use in a new installation?
[23:40] <Juest> because of hicolor-icon-theme trouble
[23:41] <tanath> auk, mm. future-proofing is good though. don't wanna have to adjust it again :P
[23:41] <Juest> the worst problem is gnome-panel
[23:41] <djmaster2437> mattk, do u have an Ethernet port on the laptop?
[23:41] <iceroot> !clone | homiziado
[23:41] <RevSpecies116> Juest, I'm sorry I don't understand - you are having more problems than just a soundcard issue?
[23:41] <Juest> yes
[23:41] <iceroot> homiziado: use chroot first to get into the system
[23:41] <Juest> two problems
[23:41] <pvthodson> can nx be installed through apt-get?
[23:41] <auk> ...i suppose in the future i could stick another partition in there
[23:41] <auk> (tanath)
[23:41] <iceroot> pvthodson: yes
[23:41] <pvthodson> thx
[23:41] <eipi-1> Firefishe, what do you mean by interface trying to start and then dropping?
[23:41] <auk> tanath: well i'm trying to make space for a fedora / partition to have a dual -boot
[23:42] <tanath> auk, for /? how would that work? you'd have to install stuff manually to alternate location
[23:42] <Juest> RevSpecies116: may i query you (PM)?
[23:42] <homiziado> thanks a lot iceroot :) I will try it
[23:42] <tanath> auk, mm
[23:42] <RevSpecies116> And all you did, Juest, to cause the hi-icon issue was update from 10.10 to 11.04?
[23:42] <tanath> auk, you could always use virtual machine instead...
[23:42] <Juest> no
[23:42] <pvthodson> is there seperate client and sever packages
[23:42] <nemo> Hey guys, I ran into a ubuntu forum article that fixed suspend/hibernate on my Sony VPC-F11 - is there an ubuntu wiki page where I can check to see if this problem is reported?
[23:42] <RevSpecies116> You can PM me, Juest :)
[23:42] <Juest> just already have that trouble
[23:42] <eipi-1> Firefishe, it may also be a networkmanager problem. you may try wicd instead. it's got more detailed log as well (from what i heard)
[23:42] <nemo> (basically just had to add acpi_sleep=nonvs to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX)
[23:43] <iceroot> pvthodson: yes
[23:43] <auk> tanath, i mean since i'm only using 6 gb, and it's 14gb, i could use the remaining 8 gb as a separate partition
[23:43] <nemo> would like to make sure it gets picked up for future releases
[23:43] <nemo> for the benefit of other users
[23:43] <Firefishe> eipi-1: By watching the nm-applet icon in the systray (kde/gnome/xfce, etc.)  -  I'll slide it off, then back on, and watch the indicator animation start up like it's trying to connect, then drop back to the inactive icon.
[23:43] <tanath> auk, i'd leave yourself 2gb to spare though
[23:43] <Firefishe> eipi-1:
[23:43] <pvthodson> is remmina a good alternative?
[23:43] <auk> tanath, ...ermm...actually, i'm considering switching from ubuntu to fedora for general use
[23:43] <Firefishe> eipi-1: Also, by watching the active terminal window using that tail command you gave me.
[23:44] <auk> tanath: as for extra 2 gb, yes of course
[23:44] <tanath> auk, all the more reason to try in vm, if you're just testing...
[23:44] <tanath> auk, and if you like it, since you have /home on separate, you could reinstall over top of ubuntu
[23:44] <auk> tanath, can trying in vm get it to use all my existing data? (app settings and histories)
[23:45] <nemo> could probably reinstall over ubuntu anyway, so long as you don't reformat :)
[23:45] <tanath> auk, actually, that should be doable... as you know you can mount a separate folder/partition as /home. and you can give vm access to outside folders...
[23:45] <valleydaddy78> t does it mean when you get this message ?
[23:45] <eipi-1> Firefishe, well could you install wicd network manager, reboot killswitch off and try to connect using wicd? from what i read so far it may be nm causing trouble
[23:45] <stefjord80> http://xdccing.com/
[23:46] <auk> yeah i'm a bit reluctant to install over ubuntu considering /home is encrypted, and i've never done anything more than play around with other distros
[23:46] <Firefishe> eipi-1: what is wicd?
[23:46] <tanath> auk, oh, be careful with that. google a guide before doing it
[23:46] <auk> (other than ubuntu)
[23:46] <Gomaaz> how can I post into pastebin from shell again?
[23:46] <valleydaddy78> E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_i18n_Translation-en, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'
[23:46] <bindi> !pastebin
[23:46] <Gomaaz> !pastebin
[23:46] <bindi> !pastebinit | Gomaaz
[23:47] <Gomaaz> thx man
[23:47] <auk> tanath: yeah i've done abit of that... some of them are uber-complicated and other say that it should be pretty much 100 percent automated :/
[23:47] <tanath> auk, i've seen a good guide or two, but dunno if i'd find 'em again. i think i found a good one from linuxtoday
[23:47] <valleydaddy78> pastebin
[23:48] <auk> tanath thanks i'll look there
[23:48] <tanath> auk, they blog news and stuff. would have been a link they did some time over the past month or two
[23:48] <Firefishe> eipi-1: I just looked it up.  It's a replacement for nm
[23:48] <eipi-1> Firefishe, just another network manager. does the same as preinstalled network manager, but you can create profiles to use with wpa_supplicant directly so we can check if preinstalled network manager is the problem or its some driver problem
[23:49] <Firefishe> eipi-1: let me install it
[23:49] <stefjord80> !list
[23:49] <auk> this is the page that gave me the most hope for automatic resolution http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?p=1376522
[23:49] <eipi-1> Firefishe, right :) it should be in the repos. btw do you have the same problem connecting to encrypted and open wifi?
[23:50] <auk> tanath, of course...do fedora and ubuntu even use the same backends for partition encryption by default?
[23:50] <stefjord80> xdcc list
[23:50] <tanath> auk, i don't know enough about partition encryption to be of much help with that
[23:50] <Firefishe> eipi-1:  Relative to the switch problem, no.  WPA isn't an issue.
[23:51] <Firefishe> eipi-1: I just apt-getted it.  It's installed.  What now?
[23:51] <tanath> auk, that's not really a guide, just someone hoping they can do what you want :P
[23:52] <eipi-1> Firefishe, i mean, when booting with KS off, did you try to connect to open wifi?
[23:52] <Sleeparoo> What's Plymouth?
[23:52] <auk> tanath, yeah :)
[23:52] <Firefishe> eipi-1: Oh yes, it doesn't matter.
[23:52] <eipi-1> Firefishe, is there a way for you to get online on some other device, so you dont have to reboot everytime?
[23:52] <tanath> auk, might also google for people troubleshooting problems so you know what to avoid
[23:53] <DevilSolution> where do i find my newly created ssh key?
[23:53] <Firefishe> eipi-1: The only other gadget I have with me is my Nokia E71.  It has an IRC client--mirggi--but's it's buggy.
[23:53] <mattk> djmaster2437: yeah
[23:54] <p01s0n> i need help with installing ubuntu 11.04 :( have been trying for a long time
[23:54] <auk> also, to whoever it was that told me a couple days ago that changing the uid from 1000 to 500 wouldn't have any consequences for well-written applications... let it be know that debian-derived gdm login screens are badly written () and that if you don't change the permissions on your home directory, you won't be able to access your files
[23:54] <tanath> auk, lol
[23:55] <tanath> auk, well that's a given... you have to take your home folder with you
[23:55] <p01s0n> i have written my problem in ubuntuforums and till now no reply
[23:55] <p01s0n> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1773159
[23:55] <tanath> auk, and there isn't a good reason for apps to expect you to change your uid
[23:55] <p01s0n> tht is the link..can some1 read and suggest some ways to fix this
[23:55] <tanath> auk, but an app that changes your uid ought to handle that.. unless you did it manually ;)
[23:56] <RevSpecies116> Folks, quick question to clarify - where can I find out the system requirements for 11.04 Ubuntu? Is there a webpage setup for that?
[23:56] <auk> tanath, i did do it manually...well, usermod -u
[23:56] <eipi-1> Firefishe, reboot, start 'tail -f ...' try 'sudo killall nm-applet' to turn off old nm. then start wicd and try to connect with that one. start wicd from console so you can see logs. if it doesn't show any, try with -d command. lets see..
[23:56] <tanath> RevSpecies116, https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/installation-guide/i386/hardware-req.html
[23:57] <tanath> RevSpecies116, few seconds on google
[23:57] <FisheDuJour> eipi-1: This is me on my phone, it's slow typing with my thumbs.
[23:57] <p01s0n> some help please
[23:57] <tanath> RevSpecies116, 'system reqs 11.04'
[23:57] <auk> tanath, i bit of complication if your hd is encrypted is you can't change the permissions on your files with root privileges :/ (without going through a quite complicated process of mounting the encrypted volume without logging in form the corresponding account)
[23:57] <lullabud> question, is there a way to reboot the livecd without requiring the user to press enter to actually do the reboot?
[23:58] <Firefishe> eipi-1: So what do you suggest at this point?  wicd is installed.  Is a reboot required?  I also have kde set to not use it's native network manager, and have nm-applet set to boot up.  I'll have to unset that.
[23:58] <eipi-1> FisheDuJour, all right ill try to ask as many yes/no questions as possible ;)
[23:58] <shomon> hi, I've installed lubuntu, is there a way to make it into ubuntu?
[23:58] <tanath> lullabud, there's a 60s timeout...
[23:58] <lullabud> i have a long process running on a livecd and i don't want to have to come back when it's done to press enter.
[23:58] <lullabud> tanath: oh, nice, thanks!
[23:58] <tanath> lullabud, or you could press reset button if you have it, or hold power
[23:58] <Firefishe> eipi-1: You can talk to my normal user here.  The phone is right by me, so I can access it if necessary.
[23:58] <lullabud> tanath: nah, i just want to do longps && shutdown -r
[23:59] <p01s0n> i tried installing ubuntu but everyime after the splash screen it hangs and shows this wierd screen http://www.stooorage.com/show/883/2984745_img0050a.jpg
[23:59] <lullabud> gracias
[23:59] <eipi-1> Firefishe, did you read my prev message?
[23:59] <captainjamie> shomon, I think you can simply install ubuntu with sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop...
 Firefishe, reboot, start 'tail -f ...' try 'sudo killall nm-applet' to turn off old nm. then start wicd and try to connect with that one. start wicd from console so you can see logs. if it doesn't show any, try with -d command. lets see..
[23:59] <valleydaddy78> has anyone encontered a problem with the merge lists when trying to update
[23:59] <shomon> thanks - I hope so