[02:32] <shoeunited>  I have ubuntu gutsy, and I saw that the new 169.09 drivers are available.  Of course there's no support for gui installation yet.  I was wondering if someone could give me instructions to strangle gutsy into installing them?
[02:32] <nablet> jscinoz: direct rendering : yes
[02:32] <jscinoz> ok
[02:32] <sweetangel4you> someone to help me install sound blaster audigy extreme music please?
[02:32] <jscinoz> what command are you launching wow with?
[02:32] <nablet> jscinoz: wine wow.exe -opengl
[02:32] <jscinoz> Hey guys, i just recently switched from the -386 to -generic kernel to get multicore support, my system boots, however it endlessly repeats something along the lines of "device-mapper, dm-linear device lookup failed" and fails to mount my home partition, i'm writing this from the livecd, and i've tried chrooting to my normal root partition and reinstalling grub and the kernel to no avail, the partitions are all intact as verified under th
[02:32] <jscinoz> e live cd, and i've run fsck on all of them, what can i do?
[02:32] <eugman> wibou, looks good. Should I be concerned that it couldn't find resolve.conf?
[02:32] <jscinoz> nablet have you done the registry hack for opengl?
[02:33] <limp> i got a new laptop dell vostro. I'm resizing the windows partition to a smaller size to install ubuntu. But my question here is that i'd like to create a partition for storing the files so that I can access+modify them from both Operating systems. What type should i format in so that i can do that?
[02:33] <nablet> jscinoz: in the regedit?
[02:33] <unistyle> if i downloaded a driver from the internet, what should i type in the terminal to install it?
[02:33] <jscinoz> yes
[02:33] <nablet> jscinoz: yes i did
[02:33] <jscinoz> ok.
[02:33] <nemilar> limp: use NTFS
[02:33] <jscinoz> whats the exact error you get when you run wow
[02:33] <facted> kitche, where can I get that package from? it's not included in the sources in ubuntu?
[02:33] <Dr_willis_> unistyle,  totally depends on the driver and file.
[02:33] <nablet> jscinoz: wait i go show to u the screenshot
[02:33] <kitche> facted: from the repos libgettext-dev or something like that
[02:33] <jscinoz> nablet, also run glxgears and tell me if some spinning gears appear
[02:34] <shoeunited>  I have ubuntu gutsy, and I saw that the new 169.09 drivers are available.  Of course there's no support for gui installation yet.  I was wondering if someone could give me instructions to strangle gutsy into installing them?
[02:34] <limp> nemilar: on this computer, i can access windows files but I cannot modify them, will this happen again if I do a NFTS partition? (no OS on it, just file storing)
[02:34] <wibou> eugman  : hummm maybe... this mean you did not receive DNS configuration... unless your other card is getting this config or that you setted it by hand, you might not be able to resolve hostname
[02:34] <co_basket> hey da yang tau gak config wifi atheros d ubuntu gutsy
[02:34] <unistyle> graphics driver
[02:34] <nemilar> limp: linux can read/write ntfs, use the ntfs-config program to set those options
[02:34] <unistyle> i downloaded a couple differnt ones, but they are in a folder, and no indiual file will install
[02:34] <jscinoz> unistyle, what are the file names?
[02:34] <eugman> wibou, well I was able to ping google or so it looked
[02:35] <Dr_willis_> unistyle,  and what card  is this? we are having to pull teeth to get answers here... :)
[02:35] <nablet> jscinoz: http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1if4.png the screenshot :X
[02:35] <TrichomeKid> hey, can someone explain to me how I logon to a Windows computer to get shared files/
[02:35] <limp> nemilar, i get a "read only" error when I wish to modify files on windows from ubuntu. What is this ntfs-config program?
[02:35] <nablet> jscinoz: glxgears appear 3 objects
[02:35] <Dr_willis_> TrichomeKid,  putting smb:/ in the file manager address bar aint working eh?
[02:35] <jscinoz> nablet, 3 spinning gears? one red one blue one green?
[02:35] <nemilar> limp: run 'sudo apt-get install ntfs-config'
[02:35] <limp> nemilar, what is the difference between primary and logical?
[02:35] <nemilar> and then run 'ntfs-config'
[02:35] <Some_Person> Is there a Human theme for Thunderbird?
[02:35] <Darkmystere_> Dr_Willis: This game keeps saying openGL Cannot resize screen..
[02:36] <nemilar> limp: they're partition types, but it shouldn't matter for this
[02:36] <unistyle> it's a via chrome9 hc igp
[02:36] <TrichomeKid> hmm, was trying to the connect to serevr under Places
[02:36] <nablet> jscinoz: yeah 3, difernt collors, blue red green
[02:36] <TrichomeKid> ill try that
[02:36] <Tm_T> Some_Person: have you checked mozilla sites?
[02:36] <Dr_willis_> Darkmystere,  i dont use wine. so cant help ya.
[02:36] <Stwange> how do I make my porn folder so it can't be ls'd? heh LSD.
[02:36] <jscinoz> nablet, open wowdir/WTF/Config.wtf
[02:36] <eugman> Oh hey, anyone know how to do a search in aptitude?
[02:36] <facted> kitche, I can't find that either
[02:36] <nablet> jscinoz: i have it
[02:36] <Dr_willis_> Stwange,  thers a way to have an encrypted folder, using the fuse tools
[02:36] <eugman> Oh wait, I found it
[02:36] <nemilar> Stwange: chmod -x
[02:36] <facted> it's not the standard gettext, right?
[02:36] <Flannel> Some_Person: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/3946
[02:36] <jscinoz> nablet, and add "SET M2 UseShaders "0""
[02:36] <jscinoz> oops
[02:36] <ConstyXV> does anyone know offhand if SC2K runs in wine?
[02:36] <jscinoz> nablet "Set M2UseShaders "0""
[02:37] <nemilar> Stwange: if a folder doesn't have the x flag set, it can't be directory listed
[02:37] <Stwange> thanks nemilar :) if I chown to root, will then make it -x until I sudo it back?
[02:37] <limp> nemilar, I do not have the choice for formating in NTFS under the ubuntu installator
[02:37] <nablet> jscinoz: ok
[02:37] <jscinoz> try it now
[02:37] <nemilar> limp: use the gparted livecd
[02:37] <kitche> facted: yes it's standard gettext but it's the source files for gettext so you can compile things that use it
[02:37] <unistyle> i don't understand how to get the drivers to work on my via chrome9 hc to work
[02:37] <Dr_willis_> !via
[02:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about via - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:37] <limp> nemilar, What's the gparted livecd? where can I get it ?
[02:37] <facted> I installed gettext, and that worked (I think)
[02:37] <genii> limp: If you install ntfsprogs the formatting ntfs will becoma an option
[02:38] <MikeHuang> hi,i have problems upgrading to 7.10,can somebody help me?
[02:38] <facted> now I have to Make
[02:38] <nemilar> Stwange: if you want it so only you can see the folder and its contents, 'chmod 700 foldername -R'
[02:38] <Dr_willis_> unistyle,  i would say check the ubuntu forums for that specific  card. Ive never used one of those.
[02:38] <nablet> jscinoz: man
[02:38] <limp> genii, this is a new computer,i'm running off the livecd
[02:38] <nablet> jscinoz: i love u so much
[02:38] <MikeHuang> hi,i have problems upgrading to 7.10,can somebody help me
[02:38] <jscinoz> :)
[02:38] <bazhang> ConstyXV: check the #winehq appdb for more on that
[02:38] <zetheroo> I have a situation with wireless networking in a client's home-based business... there is the main Router (Dlink DI-524) which has 2 Netgear access points feeding off of it, acting as relays for the wireless network. Problem is that the Ubuntu machine (of which there are 4) seem to not make the transition smoothly from one access point to another, which is supposed to be handled automatically by the wireless device which should connect to
[02:38] <jscinoz> nablet, l2read appdb.winehq.org first :P
[02:38] <nablet> jscinoz: that i cant explain how i feel now :D
[02:38] <nemilar> limp: http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/
[02:38] <Stwange> thanks nemilar
[02:38] <nablet> jscinoz: u are da best man :DDDD
[02:38] <TrichomeKid> Dr_willis_: Yeah I got the drive mounted all that but the username/password just wont work
[02:38] <genii> limp: You can install things to livecd same as a regular installed system
[02:38] <nemilar> Stwange: yup, np
[02:38] <TrichomeKid> domain seems to be accurate
[02:38] <jscinoz> nablet, tell me what kinda framerate you get, wow gets suck fps for me :(
[02:38] <Some_Person> Flannel: that is for thunderbird 1.5, ubuntu has thunderbird2
[02:39] <jscinoz> Hey guys, i just recently switched from the -386 to -generic kernel to get multicore support, my system boots, however it endlessly repeats something along the lines of "device-mapper, dm-linear device lookup failed" and fails to mount my home partition, i'm writing this from the livecd, and i've tried chrooting to my normal root partition and reinstalling grub and the kernel to no avail, the partitions are all intact as verified under th
[02:39] <jscinoz> e live cd, and i've run fsck on all of them, what can i do?
[02:39] <wibou> I have a hardcore question on initrd... any real geek here?
[02:39] <genii> limp: If you install ntfsprogs to the livecd it will include the equivelent of mkfs.ntfs and gparted can then format in ntfs
[02:39] <nablet> jscinoz: alrite man
[02:39] <nemilar> jscinoz: I don't think anyone has an answer for you
[02:39] <nablet> jscinoz: i go check it :D
[02:39] <jscinoz> nemilar well ima keep asking because im stuck on a crippled liveCD until i can fix this device-mapper screwyness
[02:40] <Flannel> Some_Person: Not all of them; anyway, that theme is compatable with 2.0, you just have to change the version check to get it to work: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/discussions/comments.php?DiscussionID=711  has instructions on doing so.
[02:40] <nemilar> jscinoz: people are going to start complaining if you ask every two minutes...at least wait about 10 minutes or so
[02:40] <Flannel> MikeHuang: Whats your problem?
[02:40] <Dr_willis_> TrichomeKid,   You are going from linux --> to the windows share eh? well the gnome file manager has a toolto browse shares. or you could try the fusesmb tools --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb
[02:40] <MikeHuang> i use an alternate cd
[02:40] <Dr_willis_> TrichomeKid,  vista likes to block a lot of trafic also. it could be windows being a pain
[02:40] <TrichomeKid> yea i did the smb:// and the password isnt working
[02:40] <MikeHuang> the dialog just freezed,
[02:40] <TrichomeKid> nah, its XP
[02:40] <limp> genii, sorry i'm getting lost here.. So I should connect and get ntfs-config, then the option will be available in the Install program of the livecd ? or do I have to burn gparted on a cd, partition the disk, and then run the install?
[02:40] <Flannel> MikeHuang: which dialog?
[02:40] <nablet> jscinoz: i cant connect now lol T_T
[02:41] <TrichomeKid> hmmm
[02:41] <TrichomeKid> ill try that fusesmb
[02:41] <MikeHuang> and print out"Checking package manager"
[02:41] <Some_Person> Flannel: doesn't work, produces 2 toolbars
[02:41] <jscinoz> nablet, did you install wow off the dvd/cd, or from the download?
[02:41] <Flannel> Some_Person: Alright.
[02:41] <nablet> jscinoz: i didnt installed, i had it here in a externel hard disk
[02:41] <MikeHuang> Dialog"Distribution upgrade"
[02:42] <jscinoz> nablet, what error does it give, if it gives invalid username/passwd even when its right you have the wrong servers in realmlist.wtf
[02:42] <pavs> hi can I look at virtual-console 8 (tty8) without actually logging into tty8 by ctrl+alt+f8 ?
[02:42] <foojunkie> Hello
[02:43] <genii> limp: As I currently understand: You are on a livecd and wanting to partition an ntfs partition then format it from inside gparted... if so, then on the livecd use the package installer to install ntfsprogs not ntfs-config. Then after it finishes run the installer and gparted should be able then to format the ntfs partition in ntfs filesystem. If you have another situation please state more clearly what it is.
[02:43] <nablet> jscinoz: doesnt connect, like no internet
[02:43] <zetheroo> anyone?
[02:43] <jscinoz> nablet, chuck us a screenshot :P
[02:43] <zetheroo> I have a situation with wireless networking in a client's home-based business... there is the main Router (Dlink DI-524) which has 2 Netgear access points feeding off of it, acting as relays for the wireless network. Problem is that the Ubuntu machine (of which there are 4) seem to not make the transition smoothly from one access point to another, which is supposed to be handled automatically by the wireless device which should connect to
[02:43] <jscinoz> nablet also run it from the terminal and pastebin the output
[02:43] <nablet> jscinoz: with pleasure :P
[02:44] <nablet> jscinoz: http://pastebin.com/m2d6dafac
[02:45] <nablet> jscinoz: http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2js9.png
[02:45] <krammer> I am trying to config the x11/org file so I can use dual monitors need help please
[02:45] <MikeHuang> Flannel:still there?
[02:45] <newusergreen> hello
[02:45] <pavs> hi can I look at virtual-console 8 (tty8) without actually logging into tty8 by ctrl+alt+f8 ?
[02:45] <x3n0> does anyone know if ubuntu plays well with quad core socketFs and nVidia Tesla units...?
[02:45] <limp> genii, No, I actually do not have gparted (that was nemilar's suggestion). I am running the install from ubuntu livecd at the Partitioning stage, and I'd like to create a separate partition on which i could access+modify files from windows and linux. I was advised to format this partition in NTFS, but this option does not show in the option list.
[02:45] <AngryElf> what package do I need in order to encode h263?
[02:45] <newusergreen> i have a hard drive problem can anyone help me?
[02:45] <zetheroo> anyone?
[02:46] <advorak> howdy!
[02:46] <genii> sigh
[02:46] <newusergreen> hard drive problem plz help
[02:46] <genii> limp: ubuntu installation partitoner = gparted
[02:46] <Tm_T> !helpme
[02:46] <ubotu> Avoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience
[02:46] <jscinoz> nablet, does it just hang like that forever?
[02:46] <nablet> jscinoz: yeah
[02:46] <pavs> 1patience
[02:46] <jac0b> has anyone had a problem printing
[02:46] <pavs> !patience
[02:46] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:46] <nablet> jscinoz: but before changing the config.wtf i could enter
[02:47] <foojunkie> Can any one point-me some clues in how to set a mailserver whit multiple domains names.....
[02:47] <nickrud> pavs: yes
[02:47] <Tm_T> newusergreen: state your question clearly, with description, once, thank you
[02:47] <jscinoz> nablet, pastebin your config.wtf
[02:47] <foojunkie> links....
[02:47] <newusergreen> ok i have a hard drive that has data on it. i put it in my new linux box (7.04) and i cant write to it
[02:47] <jac0b> I can't print to my printer. I used to be able to print now it won't
[02:47] <limp> genii, Sorry i didn't know that, name doesn't show. Ok so I have to connect and run sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[02:47] <nablet> jscinoz: http://pastebin.com/m15a719db
[02:47] <pavs> nikrud: yes regarding what?
[02:47] <nemilar> hey is it against the rules to rickroll someone in here?
[02:47] <pavs> nickrud: yes regarding what?
[02:47] <jscinoz> nablet, also pastebin your wowdir/realmlist.wtf
[02:47] <MikeHuang> Flannel:Dialog title is "DIstribution Upgrade",below that is "UPgrade ubuntu to version 7.10"
[02:47] <genii> limp: But if you wanted some shared partition between the two use instead a regular linux partition with ext3 or ext2 filesystem. then from xp/vista/w2k install the ext filesystem driver
[02:48] <Pici> nemilar: This is a support channel. Please stay on topic.
[02:48] <nemilar> lol
[02:48] <nickrud> yes you can look at tty8 with ctl-atl-f8 without actually logging in there
[02:48] <nablet> jscinoz: set realmlist eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com
[02:48] <nablet> set patchlist eu.version.worldofwarcraft.com
[02:48] <jscinoz> k. sec
[02:48] <krammer> I am trying to config the x11/org file so I can use dual monitors
[02:48] <pavs> nickrud: how?
[02:48] <Flannel> MikeHuang: and its frozen?
[02:48] <MikeHuang> at the bottom is "checking package manager"
[02:48] <MikeHuang> yes...
[02:48] <nickrud> pavs: hit  ctl-alt-f8 . You will be looking at tty8  clt-alt-f7 to return
[02:49] <newusergreen> so what do i have to do to use my extra drive and still keep the data
[02:49] <MikeHuang> I rerun the process in a terminal, you want the output?
[02:49] <jscinoz> nablet try http://pastebin.com/m1c547ce0, you shouldnt have your realm details in config.wtf
[02:49] <hidox> l
[02:49] <limp> genii, and that I assume would make me able to access files on linux from windows without making a shared partition? This would be exellent, as long as I don't get the "read only" error when I try to modify files on windows from linux. (i use linux 90% of the time)
[02:49] <MikeHuang> GTK Accessibility Module initialized
[02:49] <MikeHuang> Launching a SCIM daemon with Socket FrontEnd...
[02:49] <MikeHuang> Loading simple Config module ...
[02:49] <MikeHuang> Creating backend ...
[02:49] <MikeHuang> Loading socket FrontEnd module ...
[02:49] <MikeHuang> Starting SCIM as daemon ...
[02:49] <FloodBot3> MikeHuang: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:50] <Darkmystere_> ALSA lib conf.c:3949:(snd_config_expand) Unknown parameters 0
[02:50] <Darkmystere_> ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL default:0
[02:50] <Flannel> MikeHuang: well, go ahead and close that, and we'll do it manually if it is going to be annoying
[02:50] <Darkmystere_> I keep getting that when i try to run my game in wine
[02:50] <pavs> nickrud i guess what I was trying to find out was if its possible to see the output of tty8 from a terminal without getting off from tty7
[02:50] <nablet> jscinoz: man
[02:50] <nablet> jscinoz: i love u alot :P
[02:50] <tecie1980> I just switched from Kubuntu - Edgy to the gnome WM.... the ktorrent app is apparently docked. I can see it running in the ps output but I can figure out how to switch the docked app in gdm... any idea?
[02:50] <MikeHuang> ok ,thanks
[02:50] <jscinoz> nablet, :P
[02:50] <nickrud> pavs: tty8 messages is an echo of /var/log/syslog
[02:51] <jscinoz> nablet, ill be back in a min, gonna see if i fixed my kernel issues
[02:51] <nablet> jscinoz: i can be a noob in this kind of unix stuff, but if u appear in wow, go to frostmane server, i would be there to help u out :P
[02:51] <Gamma-X> how do i change my display driver?
[02:51] <pavs> nickrud thanks thats what I needed
[02:51] <Gamma-X> while running ubuntu
[02:51] <jscinoz> nablet, if you need to contact me add me on msn<EMAIL_ADDRESS>yahoo: jscinoz, aim: jscinoz
[02:51] <genii> limp: The windows ext driver is very good. And it is better to use an open source filesystem as well when possible like ext2 or ext3. But a separate partition for it is a good thing, instead of sharing your / with windows, messy things could happen by accident that way
[02:51] <nickrud> pavs: a better answer .. ah you read though my terseness, cool
[02:51] <jscinoz> nablet or jscinoz on crushridge-US
[02:52] <Gamma-X> how do i change my display driver?
[02:52] <pavs> nickrud thanks mate :)
[02:52] <genii> limp: http://www.fs-driver.org/     is where the Windows ext driver is
[02:52] <limp> genii, ok thank you. I will setup that shared partition in that case. Where do I get these ext3 drivers? (what difference between ext2 and 3?)
[02:52] <limp> genii, thank you
[02:53] <newusergreen> .
[02:53] <tecie1980> nm, found it... I had to add "notification area to the" menu bar.
[02:53] <limp> genii, these drivers seem to be for x86 processors only, I have an intel 2 duo core
[02:53] <newusergreen> hard drive help. hard drive is in right. as slave. i have data on it and i would like to write to the drive. i can read but not right
[02:53] <genii> limp: The difference between ext2 and ext3 is that ext3 has journalling, which makes it a bit faster to recover things or do filesystem checks. Otherwise they are very similar and can be converted to and from each other as well
[02:54] <genii> limp: x86 is the right one you need :)
[02:54] <Matir> Does anyone here use a personal media player with their ubuntu install?  I'm looking for something flash-based that handles both audio and video.
[02:55] <limp> genii, Oh so did I also get the wrong ubuntu installation cd? i got the 64 bit
[02:55] <newusergreen> i cant write to slave drive
[02:56] <MikeHuang> Flannel:I asked my question(FloodBot1),what should I do then?I am not familiar with IRC
[02:56] <CrazyWulf> Where can I change the way some windowed apps/games always open in the upper left corner? Er how could I at least move them a little
[02:56] <Flannel> !paste | MikeHuang
[02:56] <ubotu> MikeHuang: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:56] <genii> limp: If you got the wrong cd it would not get to the install part. But "x86" is just a designation for intel-based. 32 bit app should run fine even on a 64 bit XP for instance
[02:56] <orangey> chandler
[02:56] <orangey> oops : )
[02:57] <limp> genii, so the correct cd would be the x86? I would rather install the appropriate installation. Thanks for your help :)
[02:57] <newusergreen> i can read but not write do my drive what can i do to make it write
[02:57] <jscinoz> lol you guys can burn i fixed it meslf :D
[02:57] <jscinoz> nablet i r back and i bring direct rendering :D
[02:58] <newusergreen> does anyone know anything about hard drives?
[02:58] <Flannel> !anyone | newusergreen
[02:58] <ubotu> newusergreen: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:58] <genii> limp: Either one will run on a 64 bit machine so it does not really matter. If you got the x86_64 it will run, if you got the i386 it will also run
[02:58] <jscinoz> ummm why is my glxgears framerate MUCH higher with compiz running than with metacity >_<
[02:58] <bod_> newusergreen, a bit
[02:58] <newusergreen> pfft hard drive help. need to write
[02:59] <newusergreen> what do i do to make ubuntu 7.04 write
[02:59] <MikeHuang> sorry, I couldn't open http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ in firefox...
[02:59] <MikeHuang> Flannel:Firefox can't find the server at paste.ubuntu-nl.org.
[02:59] <erawfish> newusergreen: what filesystem?
[02:59] <hanophix33> is there anyway to add new task panel appletS?
[02:59] <bod_> newusergreen, u need to have write permissions on the drive
[02:59] <erawfish> jscinoz: glxgears is no benchmark
[02:59] <newusergreen> ubuntu 7.04
[03:00] <erawfish> newusergreen: I asked for the filesystem not the linux distro
[03:00] <newusergreen> oh sry um let me chck
[03:00] <Flannel> MikeHuang: Its alright, we don't need it.  Are you currently up to date with 7.04?
[03:00] <limp> i chose 64bit AMD and Intel computers. Intell 2 duo core is 64 bit right? Excuse my poor knowledge lol :)
[03:00] <kestir> hey, did anyone just watch terminator?
[03:00] <bod_> kestir, love terminator
[03:00] <kestir> the show...
[03:00] <newusergreen> ntfs (3.1)
[03:00] <MikeHuang> i use 7.04 now
[03:00] <bod_> kestir, not the films?
[03:01] <kestir> bod_: the films are good, but the tv show...that was just on
[03:01] <Flannel> MikeHuang: And are you up to date?
[03:01] <bazhang> offtopic
[03:01] <hanophix33> new task panel applets?
[03:01] <jscinoz> erawfish, i realise that, but nevertheless it shouldnt run faster with compiz hogging part of the gpu...
[03:01] <MikeHuang> maybe not...
[03:01] <kestir> ubuntu-offtopic blows
[03:01] <bod_> kestir, is it about terminators? ,.,. i didnt no there was a tv show
[03:01] <MikeHuang> update manager says:
[03:01] <kestir> bod_: yep
[03:01] <MikeHuang> there are 97 updates available
[03:01] <bod_> kestir, cool!!!
[03:02] <Flannel> MikeHuang: You should be up to date in Feisty before trying to upgrade to gutsy
[03:02] <kestir> bod_: you've missed three episodes, though
[03:02] <Tm_T> !ot | bod_ kestir
[03:02] <ubotu> bod_ kestir: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:02] <hanophix33> can i get new taskbar appletS?
[03:02] <MikeHuang> really?ok I will have a try
[03:02] <MikeHuang> thanks
[03:02] <CrazyWulf> Umm....   Ok I guess I just hit some kind of hotkey...   Looks liked it changed the theme from default into a high contrast look.    I don't see any theme settings in the configuration and under colors it shows my background should still be white (but it's black now) ..       How can I change it back? :/
[03:02] <bod_> kestir,  wots it about?
[03:02] <CrazyWulf> For Konversation
[03:03] <MikeHuang> Flannel:If I still have some problems can I ask you again:)
[03:03] <kestir> bod_: takes place after T2, T3 doesn't exist
[03:03] <Mfaleo> what can I do to undo an accidental rm *?
[03:03] <Matir> Mfaleo, restore from backup
[03:03] <newusergreen> erawfish: ntfs (3.1)
[03:04] <CrazyWulf> Can anyone help me fix this? :/   It's very annoying
[03:04] <Flannel> MikeHuang: yeah.  Well, ask the channel, I may or may not be here.
[03:04] <Mfaleo> yeah Matir, do you REALLY think i'd be here?
[03:04] <newusergreen> cant write do slave hard drive
[03:04] <MikeHuang> Ok,appreciate your help
[03:05] <limp> genii, i chose 64bit AMD and Intel computers. Intell 2 duo core is 64 bit right? Excuse my poor knowledge lol :)
[03:05] <faianca> jscinoz: fps are really slow :X
[03:05] <bazhang> limp yes it is
[03:05] <genii> limp: if core2 then yes
[03:05] <th0r> Mfaleo I am afraid Matir is right...there isn't any way to undo an rm *
[03:05] <heatmzzr> I've been running ubuntu for a few weeks all by itself but i want to add a small windows partition, how do i dual boot? or how do i install winxp
[03:05] <newusergreen> cant write to slave drive
[03:06] <jscinoz> faianca in what?
[03:06] <misslecommander> did they change the XORG setup ? CtrlAltF1 from login looked different, compared to when i had done it from within GnomeX
[03:06] <faianca> jscinoz: in wow :X
[03:06] <limp> Thanks all :)
[03:06] <genii> limp: The 64 bit one will just refuse to operate if you have a 32 bit core anyhow
[03:06] <cprmpt> Hey guys, I just installed Ubuntu.  Ive used it a lot before and I'm mostly using it for programming and stuff, but I'm having a bit of a problem under standing how the whole 'theme' thing is handled
[03:06] <faianca> jscinoz: really slow :(
[03:06] <jscinoz> wait faianca = nablet?
[03:06] <cprmpt> understanding*
[03:06] <faianca> jscinoz: yeah sorry :x
[03:06] <CrazyWulf> I just hit some kind of hotkey...   Looks liked it changed the theme from default into a high contrast look.    I don't see any theme settings in the configuration and under colors it shows my background should still be white (but it's black now) ..       How can I change it back? :/
[03:06] <Tm_T> root___: are we rooted now?
[03:06] <newusergreen> i have a hard drive installed but i cant write to it. i can read but not write
[03:06] <xen_> Hey im trying to install the skype .deb package, but it keeps telling me that theres already another synaptic running(but im using kubuntu-adept) wtf?
[03:06] <faianca> jscinoz: ii need to reboot cuz crashed
[03:06] <CrazyWulf> For Konversation
[03:06] <misslecommander> genii: visa-versa
[03:07] <cprmpt> Earlier, I had installed the emerald theme manager, and downloaded/installed a few themes, but when I selected them, nothing changed whatsoever
[03:07] <jscinoz> faianca add me on msn/yahoo/aim to talk about it, not paying much attention to this channel, because imt alking in #perl
[03:07] <Tm_T> DjBones: you know you shouldn't irc as root, right?
[03:07] <Flannel> xen_: close any update-managers, adept, aptitude, apt-get whatever that you have runnign
[03:07] <faianca> jscinoz: what is ur msn?
[03:07] <jscinoz><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:07] <limp> genii, ok. Well that should answer all my questions for the moment, thanks a lot for helping me out :)
[03:07] <xen_> Flannel theres no update managers running, i even rebooted to make sure
[03:07] <bod_> CrazyWulf, try pressing super+m
[03:07] <misslecommander> genii: misread
[03:07] <xen_> Flannel now it keeps crashing, signal or something like that
[03:07] <newusergreen> how can i make ubuntu write to ntfs 3.1?
[03:07] <Mfaleo> just to make sure, i ram this "rm * vmware" intending to remove anything with " vmware" as a postfix, this was interpreted as rm *, correct? I saw it display every directory in there saying it couldn't delete it because its a directory, so that means any free files in the directory are removed, correct?
[03:08] <Tm_T> Mfaleo: noooo
[03:08] <faianca> jscinoz: already added u
[03:08] <Flannel> xen_: Alright, well if youre sure theres nothing running, delete /var/cache/apt/archives/lock
[03:08] <bod_> Mfaleo, remove the space from the * and vmware
[03:08] <Mfaleo> thats not what i asked
[03:08] <xxpor> hey is anyone having trouble installing amarok right now?
[03:08] <CrazyWulf> bod_,   "Super"?
[03:09] <xen_> Flannel cool ill try that ty
[03:09] <Mfaleo> the command is executed, i could care less at this point how to do it right
[03:09] <bod_> CrazyWulf, super= windows key
[03:09] <CrazyWulf> Oh
[03:09] <bod_> xxpor, wots up?
[03:09] <genii> CrazyWulf: The one with the windows thingy on it
[03:09] <CrazyWulf> Thank you :)
[03:09] <CrazyWulf> hehe
[03:09] <CrazyWulf> Worked
[03:09] <Mfaleo> executing the command as i did, did infact remove all files in the directory in question, correct?
[03:09] <th0r> Mfaleo have you looked to see what was deleted?
[03:09] <bod_> CrazyWulf, its a compiz setting ,.,. its called the negative plugin i think
[03:09] <Mfaleo> i havent touched the PC in hopes that i can undelete somehow
[03:09] <xxpor> bod_, E: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/amarok/amarok-xine_1.4.8-0ubuntu1~gutsy1_i386.deb: Size mismatch
[03:10] <Mfaleo> is there any way to do a undelete recover on the directory?
[03:10] <heatmzzr> I've been running ubuntu for a few weeks all by itself but i want to add a small windows partition, how do i dual boot? or how do i install winxp
[03:10] <Dagger86> Has anyone experienced Konquerer crashing in Kubuntu?
[03:10] <th0r> Mfaleo that's been answered twice
[03:10] <bod_> xxpor, r u using terminal or synaptic?
[03:10] <Flannel> heatmzzr: Just pop the XP CD and go.  You'll need to fix GRUB afterwards, first link here...
[03:10] <Flannel> !grub | heatmzzr
[03:10] <ubotu> heatmzzr: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:10] <xxpor> bod_, terminal
[03:10] <xen_> Flannel same thing is happening dude
[03:10] <bod_> xxpor, was that the complete error message?
[03:11] <Mfaleo> linux is a god damn useless piece of shit
[03:11] <heatmzzr> so you do install ubuntu first then win right?>
[03:11] <Pici> !language | Mfaleo
[03:11] <ubotu> Mfaleo: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:11] <Flannel> xen_: Whats the error youre actually getting?
[03:11] <th0r> Mfaleo more like some of the users are
[03:11] <bod_> Mfaleo, no its not,.,. wots up?
[03:11] <xen_> hangon sec gota try copy it lol
[03:11] <xen_> Flannel :
[03:11] <xen_> Only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time
[03:11] <xen_> Please close the other application e.g. 'Update Manager', 'aptitude' or 'Synaptic' first.
[03:12] <xen_> ^^ there
[03:12] <xen_> but im using kubuntu,
[03:12] <xxpor> bod_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52968/
[03:12] <Flannel> xen_: Alright, pastebin the output of: ps aux
[03:12] <xen_> kk
[03:12] <xen_> !paste
[03:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:12] <bod_> xen_, uve got 2 things downloading patches or summit ,.,. like update manager and synaptic ,.,. close all other programs then try again
[03:12] <xen_> bod no im not
[03:12] <Dagger86> Has anybody encountered this error message with the Konquerer web browser ( SIGSEVG )
[03:12] <xen_> cause i rebooted to make sure
[03:12] <xen_> im not dl nothing
[03:13] <linuxpoet> anybody here using bluetooth?
[03:13] <xen_> id be well aware if i was
[03:13] <bod_> xen_, thats wot that error means
[03:13] <dehspehl> Dagger86: nspluginwrapper causes seg faults for me
[03:13] <xen_> i realise that
[03:13] <xen_> but thats not what is happening
[03:13] <dehspehl> Dagger86: but doesn't take down konqueror itself. i assume konqueror is crashing, right?
[03:13] <D> hi guys, I got my ctrl key stuck.  I think what did it was alt f4.  someone suggested alt f7, but that didn't work.  I've even tried booting from a live cd and its the same story there too?  Any suggestions?
[03:13] <limp> If I am creating a shared partition with no OS installed would ext2 be better?
[03:14] <Dagger86> dehspehl: Yes exactly right
[03:14] <xen_> Flannel : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52969/
[03:14] <xen_> ^^ thats ps aux
[03:14] <bod_> xxpor, i can only suggest using synaptic instead ,.,. im using terminal to get amarok now and im having no probs, but i dont understand that error.,.,. use synaptic
[03:14] <CrazyWulf>  Is there a way I can change the way windowed apps/games show up?   They're always popping up in the upper left part of the screen....I'd like to be able to move them around
[03:14] <dappermuis> anyone know much about gpg and encryption?
[03:15] <CrazyWulf> nvm
[03:15] <bod_> carzyw do u mean the whole applications tab?
[03:15] <Flannel> xen_: alright, lets do this.  Open up a konsole, and do sudo apt-get update, what error does it give? (should just be one line)
[03:15] <bod_> CrazyWulf, do u mean the whole applications tab?
[03:15] <limp> If I am creating a shared partition with no OS installed would ext2 be better?
[03:15] <xxpor> ok ill try, thanks bod_
[03:15] <dehspehl> bod_: I think he meant windowless/fullscreen games which just draw to the root window
[03:15] <bod_> xxpor,  no probs
[03:16] <xen_> Flannel i got this at the end of the fetch list: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:16] <CrazyWulf> bod_  Yeah I got it, figured out holding down alt lets me move them :)   Thanks anyways
[03:16] <Tm_T> !anyone | dappermuis dappermuis
[03:16] <ubotu> dappermuis dappermuis: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:16] <bod_> ok
[03:16] <dehspehl> bod_: or something similar, not familiar that much with X
[03:16] <bod_> dehspehl, cheers
[03:16] <Flannel> xen_: alright, go ahead and make it happy.  Looks like something got interrupted in a previous session, and stuff didn't get cleaned up properly
[03:16] <xen_> ah kk
[03:16] <dappermuis> is it possible to delete old pgp keys from the public key server?
[03:17] <D> my ctrl key is stuck.  alt f7 didn't unstick it.  Anybody know how to get it unstuck?
[03:17] <Flannel> dappermuis: revocation certificate
[03:17] <th0r> dappermuis no...you revoke them
[03:17] <xen_> Flannel Aha! yup thanks heaps dude that was it, looks like it crashed whilst mid way installing some updates from yesterday lol
[03:17] <xen_> tyvm
[03:17] <bod_> CrazyWulf, u can just click+hold on the top bar of the game to drag it about
[03:17] <limp> genii, what would you suggest for a shared partition if there is not OS installed? ext2 or 3 ?
[03:17] <dappermuis> Flannel, th0r: i already deleted them locally, but i don't think i create revocation certs
[03:18] <Ashnal> Can anyone here help me with a crackling sound issue?
[03:18] <genii> limp: ext3
[03:18] <xen_> dweller-in-peace xnet is pretty good isp huh lol :P
[03:18] <cafuego> limp: shared between what and what?
[03:19] <limp> cafuego, Windows and linux.
[03:19] <cafuego> limp: FAT32
[03:19] <genii> cafuego: There are a few reasons ext3 and not fat is better
[03:19] <cafuego> Windows can read ext2/ext3... but fat32 support is a lot more mature on both :-)
[03:19] <th0r> dappermuis http://dewinter.com/gnupg_howto/english/GPGMiniHowto-3.html
[03:19] <limp> cafuego, omg. I got NTFS, ext3, now FAT32, I am really lost now lmao
[03:19] <dehspehl> though if you have Windows Vista forget about ext2 support
[03:20] <bod_> how can i have 2 applications using sound at the same time ,.,. eg a game and amarok,.,. my sound card doesnt support sound mixing
[03:20] <limp> windows XP, i'm not up for vista
[03:20] <genii> dehspehl: The ext driver from fs-driver.org works on vista, i use it sometimes
[03:20] <cafuego> limp: fat32 is the lowest common denominator. It's ubiquitous and supported by everything. However, there are file size limits and it does not support Linux file permissions.
[03:20] <SeveredCross> bod_: Make sure both are using ALSA would be a good step.
[03:20] <SeveredCross> Sometimes, you can try launching the game with the aoss wrapper
[03:20] <dehspehl> genii: ahh, might need that. my system is totally screwed up (only runs Vista now)
[03:20] <bod_> SeveredCross, yep done that
[03:20] <dappermuis> th0r: thanks
[03:21] <bod_> SeveredCross, i have to launch some games with cedega though
[03:21] <cafuego> limp: Windows can access ext2/ext3 with the driver genii mentions, but that reads and writes as root... and you're talkign windows here, I wouldn't trust it.
[03:21] <genii> limp: fat32 as shared used to make sense. But since it needs to be defragged and scanned occasionally and also cannot support permissions or files over 4Gb ext2 or ext3 is better for shared
[03:21] <Ashnal> Can anyone help me solve an issue where my sound cracles for games?
[03:21] <interbutt> hey how do i install lynx on ubuntu gutsy gibbon?
[03:21] <SeveredCross> bod_: Maybe aoss cedega?
[03:22] <cafuego> limp: NTFS write support in Linux is relatively new, and I've heard too many stores about people writing to it from Linxu and destroying it.
[03:22] <th0r> interbutt  apt-get install lynx?
[03:22] <bazhang> !info lynx
[03:22] <interbutt> the text browser
[03:22] <Starnestommy> interbutt: sudo apt-get install lynx?
[03:22] <ubotu> lynx (source: lynx): Text-mode WWW Browser. In component main, is optional. Version 2.8.6-2ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1138 kB, installed size 4860 kB
[03:22] <bod_> SeveredCross, kk cheers
[03:22] <genii> cafuego: LOL well at least we're in agreement not to use ntfs
[03:22] <interbutt> oh i'll try that
[03:22] <cafuego> limp: So... unless you need to store files over 4Gb in size, go fat32. otherwise, ext3.
[03:22] <thomas_> I'm relatively new to Ubuntu, and was wondering if there were any rules of thumb to follow for partitioning the hard drive. I'm wanting to have a separate /home partition, if that helps any.
[03:22] <adrakoa> hi
[03:22] <Matir> thomas_, how big is your hard drive?
[03:23] <limp> Oktanouc_, I need read/write permissions from both OS's, it has to be stable. I only use windows occasionally. Files are not over 4gb exept for large downloads
[03:23] <thomas_> 160 GB
[03:23] <bod_> adrakoa, hi
[03:23] <cafuego> genii: I've had the ext2 driver zero the odd file. it's fine for reading, but writing was not great last time I use it.
[03:23] <Matir> thomas_, I would probably set aside ~20-25 GB for / and the rest for /home.
[03:23] <interbutt> cool it's working thanks
[03:23] <Tixer> For some reason, everything on ubuntu that I'd do no longer works, and I get a huge error:
[03:23] <Tixer> sudo rm -R /etc/samba/
[03:23] <Tixer> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[03:23] <genii> cafuego: I have had no issues with it myself.
[03:24] <Tixer> Can anyone tell me what's wrong, and why I'm getting that error?
[03:24] <Ashnal> can anyone help me with crackling sound?
[03:24] <cafuego> genii: If I hadn't, I'd be happy to recommend it too.
[03:24] <thomas_> Alright. Thank you. Since I do have a running install, would it be alright to boot into the LiveCD and move my /home partition to put the free space at the end of the drive next to my / partition?
[03:24] <genii> limp: If no files over 4Gb (dvd isos etc) and you will be keeping windows to occasionally go in and scandisk/defrag it then go fat32 if you like
[03:24] <bod_> !pastebin | Tixer
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[03:24] <limp> It will only be files such as mp3, php scripts, pictures and so but in very large amounts
[03:25] <john> hey i did sudo apt-get install lynx now how do i run it or is there still more to do?
[03:25] <john> john = interbutt (lol)
[03:25] <bod_> Ashnal, sorry ive tried fixing that 4,. im not to good with sound
[03:25] <JDLimbo> hello
[03:25] <bod_> JDLimbo, hi
[03:25] <Starnestommy> john: type 'lynx' in a terminal
[03:25] <john> okay
[03:25] <Matir> thomas_, I'm not sure I understand
[03:25] <john> yay it works thanks bye
[03:25] <genii> limp: As you can tell this topic is still in much debate over which method is better, etc :) So just choose a way and use it, if unsatisfactory, try the other way afterwards.
[03:25] <JDLimbo> if I you were having problems with firefox crashing, and sometimes freezing everything along with it, what would you check first?
[03:25] <limp> I'll go with FAT32, so I wont have to install drivers. Is that correct?
[03:25] <Ashnal> bod_: well it only crackles when im running certain programs
[03:26] <bod_> JDLimbo, i'd reinstall firefox from synaptic
[03:26] <bazhang> must one append an ampersand when running things from the terminal to retain use of said terminal?
[03:26] <bod_> Ashnal, which programs?
[03:26] <limp> genii, I think it's an interesting debate :) I'll try with fat. I can still backup on external HD and format to ext3 then
[03:26] <Ashnal> bod_:games
[03:26] <bod_> bazhang, YES
[03:26] <genii> limp: Correct, FAT32 requires no drivers on either side
[03:26] <bod_> Ashnal, let me google it
[03:26] <bazhang> bod_: cheers!
[03:27] <thomas_> I have an existing install of Ubuntu (which I'm on right now) with ~10 GB / partition, ~120 GB /home partition, and then ~20 GB free. Will it cause problems if I reboot onto the LiveCD, and use GParted to move my /home partition to after the free space to expand my / partition?
[03:27] <limp> genii, what about mount point? if it is shared should I leave blank? (and for my linux partition, thus, "/")
[03:27] <JDLimbo> bod_, ok, will try that and see if problem persists
[03:27] <Matir> thomas_, no, gparted should be safe, but I would (as I always would) make sure a backup is prepared
[03:28] <bod_> JDLimbo, let me no wot happens
[03:28] <thomas_> Of course. Thank you, Matir.
[03:28] <genii> limp: for a shared partition usually it will be someplace like /media/shared          but since that dir is not made yet leave it blank
[03:28] <JDLimbo> but I meant, would it leave an error message in /var/log somewhere?
[03:28] <JDLimbo> it's somewhat erratic
[03:28] <Matir> thomas_, no problem.
[03:29] <genii> limp: The os should see it during first boot and mount it as a foreign filesystem automatically someplace
[03:29] <limp> genii, "/" for the ubuntu installation. How does ubuntu know where to install the OS?
[03:29] <tsrk> How would I go about setting up a WebDav server?
[03:29] <heatmzzr> hey i need help, ive used ubuntu for awhile, want to create a small windoes partition, do i need to do something to first allocate room for windows or just put in the disk and install, I DO NOT want to screw up ubuntu.
[03:30] <limp> genii, should I make a swap partition between the NTFS (windows), FAT32 (shared) and my ext3 (linux)?
[03:30] <genii> limp: the "/" for ubuntu root is equiv of c:\    in windows world. Earlier you should have partitioned part of a disk for this it would have been something like sda2 sda3 or such name.
[03:31] <bod_> Ashnal, type alsamixer in the terminal and tell me wot u see
[03:31] <Ashnal> bod_ Any luck?
[03:31] <genii> limp: a better place for swap is at end of drive and not between two active sections with os on them
[03:31] <tritium> bod_: still using your AIM-speak, I see
[03:31] <walkies> is it possible to backport a newer version of X11 into ubuntu?
[03:31] <sethk> genii, in general, that's not true
[03:31] <sethk> genii, in general, between two partitions is better
[03:31] <sethk> genii, because the average head travel time is greatly reduced
[03:31] <Ashnal> bod_ ive already played with alsamixer a lot and currently i have all channels muted except the one that i need
[03:32] <sethk> genii, many systems deliberately use centered partitions for swap
[03:32] <SeveredCross> Centered partitions?
[03:32] <SeveredCross> As in, centered physically on the drive?
[03:33] <sethk> SeveredCross, right
[03:33] <genii> sethk: Traditionally the start of drive, because access times are slightly shorter there. but since swap partition gets a lot of hard use. So if it starts degrading the drive and positioned at end of one active os partition or beginning of an active os partition it's less damaging
[03:33] <bod_> !pastebin
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[03:33] <tsrk> SeveredCross: Between two active partitions
[03:33] <limp> genii, ok so I don't need any swap. This is my first boot on livecd, no ubuntu installation exists yet. I added two partitions (at the "Prepare partitions" step of the installation). /dev/sda6 fat32 100gb and /dev/sda7 "/" 30gb
[03:33] <dappermuis> I deleted my gpg key pair using "gpg --delete-secret-and-public-key." Is there any way that I can now revoke it from the keyserver having not created a revocation certificate?
[03:33] <sethk> genii, well, in modern systems swap is rarely heavily used.  Nevertheless, you are wrong
[03:33] <sethk> genii, even if heavily used, seek time greatly dwarfs other factors
[03:33] <SeveredCross> I have 2 GB of RAM but 3 GB of swap for hibernation purposes.
[03:33] <bod_> Ashnal, this is gonna look weird but try getting it to look like that ,.,. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52970/
[03:33] <th0r> dappermuis I think that link said no
[03:33] <heatmzzr> hey i need help, ive used ubuntu for awhile, want to create a small windoes partition, do i need to do something to first allocate room for windows or just put in the disk and install, I DO NOT want to screw up ubuntu.
[03:34] <dappermuis> th0r: this link isn't working for me :/
[03:34] <sethk> SeveredCross, well, performance for hibernation isn't really an issue
[03:34] <bazhang> !dualboot | heatmzzr
[03:34] <ubotu> heatmzzr: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[03:34] <tsrk> To hybernate do you need more swap than ram?
[03:34] <heatmzzr> thanks
[03:34] <Flannel> heatmzzr: Fire up a live CD, use gparted to shrink your Ubuntu partition.  Then instruct the windows installer to use that unpartitioned space
[03:34] <nemilar> heatmzzr: you need to create an NTFS partition...burn a gparted liveCD, resize your linux partition, and create an NTFS partition
[03:34] <sethk> tsrk, in general, a bit more, although it won't always be used
[03:34] <bod_> hey guys ,.,. in windows u could make a virtual memory swap folder to increase ur ram,.,. can u do this in ubuntu?
[03:34] <sethk> bod_, yes
[03:34] <tsrk> Ok, thanks
[03:34] <heatmzzr> thanks folks
[03:35] <nemilar> bod_: that's what the swap partition is for
[03:35] <sethk> bod_, won't have the performance of a swap partition, but you can do it.
[03:35] <CrazyWulf> Hmm....   My minimize/maximize/close buttons are missing from my windows..... How do I get them back? :(
[03:35] <nemilar> bod_: but swap doesn't increase the amount of RAM you have
[03:35] <bod_> nemilar, but it will speed my computer up a bit yer?
[03:35] <sethk> CrazyWulf, window manager configuration
[03:35] <nemilar> bod_: no
[03:35] <bod_> nemilar, so wot does it do?
[03:36] <genii> limp: So if all partitions are allocated, you can proceed to the next step where it formats, etc
[03:36] <sethk> bod_, in the file system, quite likely not
[03:36] <nemilar> bod_: using swap is slower than using RAM, since swap is on the hard drive, and hard drives are slow
[03:36] <sethk> bod_, allows you to run very large programs
[03:36] <nemilar> bod_: it allows applications to use more memory
[03:36] <Ashnal> bod_ it looks exactly like that, and i am using the CA0106
[03:36] <jcsmith> hi all, anybody have any idea why i can't get any audible beeps from gnome-terminal, the option is checked in the terminal preferences as well as system->preferences->sound
[03:36] <rpdillon> So, has the power management situation improved for the MacBook crowd with Gutsy?  I'm still a VMWare refugee...
[03:36] <bod_> sethk, nemilar ,.,.kk cheers
[03:36] <nemilar> =)
[03:36] <bod_> Ashnal, kk 1 sec
[03:37] <limp> So do I add swap paritions betweens these partitions? right now I have fat16, ntfs, fat32 (shared), ext3, fat32 (the two first fats are very small space, came installed like that)
[03:37] <flamsmark> i'm having a problem successfully installing ubuntu with the alternate install disk. I have been trying to install with an encrypted root on a raid5 array, and /boot on a separate disk. i put one partition on each of three large disks, marking each as physical volumes for raid. then i made a raid volume, and used that as a physical volume for lvm. in that lvm, was one lvg with one logical volume, spanning the whole space, m
[03:37] <flamsmark> arked as a physical volume for encryption. in the encrypted volume, i put another lvg with two volumes, one for the root and one for the swap. at the end of another hdd, i put a 255mb /boot partition. the bootloader that the disk automagically installed was grub. when rebooting after the installation, i get an 'error loading operating system'. what am i doing wrong?
[03:37] <hdevalence> I'm installing apt-build, but my architecture is not on the list
[03:37] <Tetracomm> Hi.
[03:38] <pavs> whats the problem here: ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
[03:38] <Starnestommy> pavs: sshd isn't running?
[03:38] <rpdillon> pavs: you need to start sshd
[03:38] <Tetracomm> Does anyone know of any AIM clients which can work in Ubuntu which support voice conversations?
[03:38] <bod_> Ashnal, google talks about something called DXS which can be the cause of crackling sound ,.,. but i dont think it would be program-specific
[03:38] <pavs> ok let me try
[03:38] <bod_> Ashnal, have u always had this problem?
[03:39] <Vadi> Can anyone recommend me any RAM management programs in Ubuntu?
[03:39] <Ashnal> bod_ yes, ive been using ubuntu for about 4 days now, and its been driving me nuts
[03:39] <nemilar> Vadi: how do you mean?
[03:39] <bod_> Ashnal, distro?
[03:39] <majd> hey, my Screen Resolution screen doesn't have 1024x768..how can i fix that?
[03:39] <Ashnal> bod_ feisty
[03:40] <faianca> how can i install new version of opengl ?
[03:40] <nemilar> majd: it's probably not listed in your xorg.conf file
[03:40] <limp> genii, I get a msg after continuing "No mount point is assigned for fat32 file system in partition #6 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sda). If you do not go back to the partitionning menu and assign a mount point from there, this partition will not be used at all
[03:40] <bod_> Ashnal, i have only used gutsy so im not sure,.,. thought about upgrading?
[03:40] <Ashnal> bod_ oops im using 7.10 whichever that is
[03:40] <Vadi> nemilar: Some program to manage my ram more efficiently.. like shut down unused libraries and such. Because I find that if I close down all apps, I still won't get all the ram I'd have as if I'd reboot. And with only 512ram, running gnome+kde, everything counts
[03:40] <bod_> Ashnal, gutsy
[03:40] <dcmorton> is there anyone here who knows how to setup an encrypted LVM with 2 hard disks?
[03:41] <sdfowes> who wants to look at some k3b debugging info? got problem burning dvd data. fails at 0%
[03:41] <bod_> Ashnal, actually ,.,. i get the crackling occasionally,.,. but mine is very mild so i dont really hear it
[03:41] <hanophix34> my comp freezes when i go to youtube
[03:41] <genii> limp: We can't assign yet one since / is not made or formatted. So leave it
[03:41] <astro76> Vadi: you'll find your ram is being used by cache, and will be freed when needed, no "management" apps needed
[03:41] <bod_> Ashnal, but this is od,.., have u configured ur sound card correctly?
[03:41] <astro76> !ram | Vadi
[03:41] <ubotu> Vadi: A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[03:41] <FiremanJosh> hi
[03:41] <Dee> ah, finally.... hi all
[03:41] <nemilar> Vadi: I don't know that anything of that sort exists...or is necessary
[03:41]  * FiremanJosh wanders in from scotland
[03:41] <Ashnal> bod_ i havent really configured it at all because i dont know how
[03:41] <pavs> thanks guys installing openssh worked :)
[03:42] <Vadi> nemilar: well, there are similar tools in windows.. I thought I wouldn't need here but it looks like I do
[03:42] <bod_> Ashnal, ok hang on ,.,. il walk u through it
[03:42] <Ashnal> bod_ besides fiddling with alsamixer
[03:42] <scott__> hey guys, i just installed ubuntu and it won't boot; grub is having problems mountin/finding the selectd partition (error 17)
[03:42] <hanophix34> comp freezes when i go to youtube
[03:42] <nemilar> Vadi: are you hitting swap heavily?
[03:42] <sdfowes> http://pastebin.com/me27cacf = k3b burning problem. msg me for any ideas.
[03:42] <genii> limp: After the install is done do not do the reboot part. We will make the mountpoint and format it at that time just before reboot
[03:42] <Vadi> nemilar: at times very
[03:42] <nemilar> Vadi: if you run kde apps in gnome, for example, even if you close the kde apps, the libraries still remain open unless you kill them
[03:42] <misslecommander> youtube dont even show anything for me
[03:42] <Vadi> nemilar: I can also close down all apps, and still have like 400mb of swap space in use, haha.
[03:42] <nemilar> Vadi: you can use top to see which apps are using the most memory
[03:42] <Dee> can someone tell me if Virtual Box can run my XP install that is on one of my HD's?
[03:43] <Vadi> nemilar: it doesn't show libraries though.
[03:43] <astro76> libraries do not remain open
[03:43] <VvWolverinevV> hi, im sharing my macbook via samba but ubuntu doesn't see it under "Windows Network"
[03:43] <nemilar> ^^^
[03:43] <sdfowes> http://pastebin.com/me27cacf = k3b burning problem. msg me for any ideas.
[03:44] <sdfowes> http://pastebin.com/me27cacf ; debugging into for k3b burning problem. msg me for any ideas.
[03:44] <bod_> Ashnal, doh,.,. i cant find the site,.,. give me a sec
[03:44] <majd> nemilar: where is xorg.conf located?
[03:44] <Vadi> Dee: Doesn't really work that way
[03:44] <limp> genii, "You have not selected any partitions for use as swap space. Enabling swap space is recommended so that the system can make better use of the available physical memory, and so that it [....] you may experiencce installation problems if you do not have enough physical memory"
[03:44] <nails> sdfowes: are you getting any error messages?
[03:44] <nemilar> majd: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:45] <genii> limp: You can go back and make one as you like, or continue without one
[03:45] <mandelson> ubuntu 7.10 wifi issues
[03:45] <mandelson> hlep
[03:45] <mandelson> help
[03:45] <limp> genii, where do I place it ?
[03:45] <bazhang> !ask | mandelson
[03:46] <ubotu> mandelson: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily).  I prefer them at the end of drives. But as sethk indicated many prefer it in the middle of the drive.
[03:47] <McNutella> nickserv says all names I use are regged, but its impossible
[03:47] <Tixer> fsck?
[03:47] <Dee> is there an app out there that can run my existing XP install kind of like Virtual Box?
[03:47] <Vadi> Dee: What you'd need to do is install Windows in Virtualbox, setup a shared folder between Ubuntu and Virtualbox, then copy the windows files over into that shared folder for the windows in virtualbox to see them.
[03:47] <tritium> !language | McNutella
[03:47] <ubotu> McNutella: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:47] <misslecommander> sdfowes: Failed to change write speed: 2770->3324 ?
[03:47] <bod_> McNutella, i think improbbable is the word ur looking for
[03:47] <Vadi> Dee: You mean run windows, but not reboot to have to get it?
[03:47] <Starnestommy> Tixer: it's a command that stands for File System ChecK
[03:47] <nickrud> McNutella: try asking about it on #freedode
[03:47] <McNutella> i didnt ask for a grammar lesson lol
[03:47] <bazhang> mandelson: youll needto provide more info that to get any decent help
[03:47] <Dee> Vadi: right... run it within Ubuntu
[03:47] <misslecommander> sdfowes: try burning lower speed maybe
[03:48] <McNutella> thank you
[03:48] <limp> genii, 500mb size?
[03:48] <tritium> McNutella: consider it a warning
[03:48] <genii> limp: A good size is something like your RAM size or multiples of it
[03:49] <misslecommander> sdfowes: if i buy 100 cr-r there is sure to be fails in there, goes to show, you get what you pay for. cheap discs = lost burns at high speeds
[03:49] <ramza3> I have a command in rc.local and there is a the /etc/rc*/S99rc.local ...but the command doesnt seem to start; when I run the command manually after I have logged in, it starts.  what do you think.
[03:49] <misslecommander> sdfowes: cheap discs 10 out 100 can fail, better discs 1 out 100 fail
[03:49] <Tixer> I'm getting segfaults on just about everything I do. Can someone tell me what to do to stop them?
[03:50] <Starnestommy> Tixer: it could be a problem with libc
[03:50] <nickrud> ramza3: what's the command, without knowing that no one can think about it at all
[03:50] <mandelson> well ive run lspci and i cant find my wifi card and ive done iwconfig and my wireless card isnt installed...... iv used the ubuntu help site and that didnt help me at all... so i came here
[03:50] <Starnestommy> Tixer: or you're running low on spare ram
[03:50] <majd>  hey, when i run this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg i get this: xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[03:50] <misslecommander> sdfowes: its normal to fail, by them terms. burn lower speed usually fixes the issue.
[03:50] <ramza3> nickrud, lighttpd .../lighttpd
[03:50] <sdfowes> k3b have it's own channel by any chance?
[03:50] <bod_> !ndiswrapper | mandelson
[03:50] <ubotu> mandelson: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:50] <LDS_Trooper> Greets! What is the terminal command to copy a directory?
[03:50] <nails> ramza3: could be enviroment varibles/settings that exist while you are logged in but not via startup. What process are you trying to start?
[03:50] <misslecommander> sdfowes: stress usually, not always
[03:50] <bod_> LDS_Trooper, cp
[03:50] <nickrud> majd: that's normal, it is just making a backup and telling you about it
[03:50] <limp> genii, I've got 2gb RAM DDR2, what would you pick? 2gb swap size or 4gb ?
[03:51] <majd> nickrud: but then it doesn't do anything
[03:51] <LDS_Trooper> cp isn't working for directories tho
[03:51] <ramza3> nails, just php
[03:51] <Starnestommy> LDS_Trooper: cp -R?
[03:51] <bod_> LDS_Trooper, ask nickrud
[03:51] <misslecommander> sdfowes: type /list for list of channels
[03:51] <nickrud> majd: try full path names
[03:51] <mandelson> iv looked there and it still didnt help i followed it step by step and none of the packages have worked
[03:51] <bazhang> sdfowes: likely not a k3b issue; more likely is burn speed media quality as misslecommander points out
[03:51] <genii> limp: 2Gb should be fine then
[03:51] <Tixer> Even if I reboot or w/e, I'm still getting segfaults when I run certain programs
[03:51] <majd> nickrud: full path name for what?
[03:51] <LDS_Trooper> bod_, thanks
[03:51] <ramza3> nails, /usr/bin/php5-cgi
[03:51] <majd> xserver-xorg?
[03:51] <phaedral> downloaded "openproj", it's a deb file, right clicked and let the package installer do its thing...but does that mean synaptic and apt-get won't know about it?
[03:51] <xen_> Hey is there any IM program for Kubuntu that can connect to MSN network?(NOT kopete, i repeat, i NOT kopete)
[03:52] <sdfowes> :-[ WRITE@LBA=0h failed with SK=3h/ASC=73h/ACQ=03h]: Input/output error
[03:52] <sdfowes> that doesn't look like a meduim problem.
[03:52] <Starnestommy> xen_: pidgin
[03:52] <bod_> LDS_Trooper, np
[03:52] <LDS_Trooper> nickrud, what's the terminal command to copy directories?
[03:52] <bazhang> pidgin amsn xen
[03:52] <Starnestommy> LDS_Trooper: cp -R
[03:52] <sdfowes> dmesg ; [274068.724891] cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
[03:52] <genii> limp: That will give ~4Gb which is what the kernel understands anyhow normally as top ram size
[03:52] <riotkittie> cp -R source/ target/
[03:52] <bod_> mandelson, http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/
[03:52] <nickrud> majd: the command and the config file , like /usr/local/bin/lighthttp (although I wonder why you're not using the ubuntu provided ones)
[03:52] <Dee> is there an app out there that can run my existing XP install kind of like Virtual Box?
[03:53] <limp> genii, no mount point right?
[03:53] <nails> ramza3: You can try putting in a debug statment of sorts to see if the script is even being executed. Also check your syslog files for errors.
[03:53] <LDS_Trooper> sweet thanks!
[03:53] <majd> nickrud: well when i try to change screen resolutions, it doesn't give me an option for 1024x768
[03:53] <LDS_Trooper> is there a site with Terminal commands?
[03:53] <nickrud> LDS_Trooper: cp -r /path/to/sourcedir /path/to/destdir , sourcedir will go into destdir
[03:53] <DIL_> vpc
[03:53] <limp> genii, oh sorry that was stupid
[03:53] <bazhang> sdfowes: what precisely are you trying to burn? audio cd, iso data or other
[03:53] <genii> limp: correct. swap automounts itself as swap
[03:53] <misslecommander> sdfawes: is that blank disc, or bad burn ?
[03:53] <Ashnal> bod_ im not sure how that thread is supposed to help
[03:53] <nickrud> majd: what does a web server have to do with screen res?
[03:53] <misslecommander> sdfowes: is that blank disc, or bad burn ?
[03:53] <majd> nickrud: a web server?
[03:53] <LDS_Trooper> nickrud, thanks
[03:53] <LDS_Trooper> life savers all
[03:53] <nickrud> majd: sorry, I lost the nick I was talking to
[03:54] <bod_> Ashnal, me neither but it was about sound,.,. thats about as close as i could get
[03:54] <majd> nickrud: oh heh it's ok
[03:54] <sdfowes> blanks and bads
[03:54] <bod_> Ashnal, il keep looking if i find something il tell u
[03:54] <Ashnal> bod_ alright, in the mean time i think ill mess with the settings for my onboard sound and try that
[03:54] <misslecommander> sdfowes: not sure how linux looks at them, but blank and bad burns may be considered invalid media
[03:54] <nickrud> ramza3: use the full path names, like /usr/local/bin/lighttp (although I wonder why you're not using the ubuntu provided lighttp
[03:54] <ramza3> nickrud, trying to get the latest and greatest
[03:55] <ramza3> nickrud, works fine, just doesn't startup on boot
[03:55] <nickrud> !latest
[03:55] <ubotu> A higher version number does not mean that it's better. Especially with packages such as the linux kernel. The packages in the Ubuntu repositories are stable and will work fine. You should have a better reason than "newer" when considering compiling from source or using 3rd party repos.
[03:55] <misslecommander> sdfowes: if you fail a burm, wing the disc like a frisbee, as it is no good
[03:55] <Darkmystere_> How could i host a ftp from My Computer that has Ubuntu Gusty on it its annoying finding File and Folder Hosting sites especially folder hosting is hard to find how would i set that up?
[03:55] <nickrud> ramza3: but still, try using the full path to the stuff
[03:55] <pingu> why does linux make my wireless so much weaker
[03:56] <misslecommander> sdfowes: put them in microwave. atleast you get a lightning show for your money
[03:56] <Dee> can someone tell me if there's an app out there that can run my boot up my existing XP install kind of like Virtual Box, running within ubuntu?
[03:56] <sdfowes> and for some reason these dual layer 8gb's and only showing up at 6.2gb
[03:56] <dcmorton> is it possible to set up an encrypted LVM consisting of 2 hard disks?
[03:56] <bazhang> pingu: could you be a bit more precise?
[03:56] <sdfowes> and holy shit check out this from my dmesg  http://pastebin.com/m2e42966f
[03:56] <sdfowes> i think i got some driver problems.
[03:56] <bazhang> !ohmy | sdfowes
[03:56] <ubotu> sdfowes: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[03:56] <misslecommander> sdfowes: above: dont do that. it may damage your microwave, or be dangerous. but, it is a very cool sight
[03:57] <sdfowes> SH1T
[03:57] <ramza3> nickrud, can I  uninstall the lighttpd from the site and just using apt.  Or would apt just overwrite what I did.
[03:57] <bazhang> :{
[03:57] <sdfowes> anyways, anyone have driver issues that makes dmesg go beserk like this? http://pastebin.com/m2e42966f
[03:57] <nickrud> ramza3: when you configured lighttpd, where did you tell it to install?
[03:58] <bod_> Ashnal, ive found loads of things similar to do with music but i cant find a single post about crackling because of games,.,. wot games exactly make crackling noises?
[03:58] <Dee> can someone tell me if there's an app out there that can boot up my existing XP install kind of like Virtual Box, running it within Ubuntu?
[03:58] <genii> sdfowes: Your hard drive controller seems to be failing/bad or not recognised properly
[03:58] <ramza3> nickrud, looks like /usr/sbin/lighttpd  (whatever the defaults are)
[03:58] <Ashnal> bod_ its an open source RTS by the name of spring
[03:59] <bod_> Dee, that would be weird,.,.lol,.,. et me no if u find one
[03:59] <bazhang> Dee: there are several vm options out there; vmware as well as several others
[03:59] <bod_> Ashnal, does it ONLY happen in THAT game?
[03:59] <Dee> hmm, ok, thanks
[03:59] <misslecommander> sdfowes: are you using Dual Layer Burn ?
[03:59] <x3n0> anyone played with SSDs in a raid0 array...?
[03:59] <genii> limp: I need to go have a coffee and go outside for a cig, returning in a few minutes
[03:59] <nickrud> ramza3: usually the defaults would be /usr/local/sbin or bin.  If you have the original compilation directory, you should be able to do   sudo make uninstall
[03:59] <Ashnal> bod_ im not sure i havent any other comparable games
[04:00] <sdfowes> but are detected as full 8gb size in nero for windows.
[04:00] <bod_> Ashnal, it sounds like a prob with the game,.,. make sure ur  game is using ALSA
[04:00] <riotkittie> Dee: i *believe* there's a tutorial on ubuntuforums.org about doing exactly that with virtual box or vmware but i'm not positive
[04:00] <limp> genii, sure :)
[04:00] <Dee> hmm ok, thanks, ill look it up there
[04:00] <riotkittie> i'd go search for it for you but i dont have access to a browser
[04:00] <Ashnal> bod_ oh one thing you might be able to help, i tried using the alsa wrapper thing on it and it spits out an error
[04:01] <nickrud> vmware is supposed to be able to do that, but I wouldn't trust it with my real install
[04:01] <bod_> Ashnal, il try ,.,.
[04:01] <nickrud> riotkittie: no text browser?
[04:01] <DIL_> the vm site has some "pre-made" vm
[04:01] <bod_> Ashnal, post the error
[04:01] <bod_> !pastebin | Ashnal
[04:01] <ubotu> Ashnal: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:02] <nickrud> ramza3: did the uninstall work? if not then the next step is   sudo  updatedb  && locate lighttpd , that will show the dirs you have to clear
[04:02] <riotkittie> nickrud: well yeah i do have those but i seem to recall visiting the forums on them making me curl up in the fetal position and cry for my mother.
[04:02] <ramza3> nickrud, working on it
[04:02] <misslecommander> sdfowes: try not to burn it as Dual Layer
[04:02] <Ashnal> bod_ the command is aoss right?
[04:02] <nickrud> riotkittie: an experience not worth repeating, I'm sure
[04:03] <bod_> Ashnal, yer,.,.i think
[04:03] <misslecommander> sdfowes: if it works like that, not burning as Dual Layer, then DL may not be an option to use in the near future
[04:04] <mandelson> man that bs didnt help me at all it keeps on givin me errors
[04:04] <bazhang> so it was dual layer; nice call misslecommander
[04:04] <x3n0> anybody?
[04:04] <bod_> !pastebin | mandelson
[04:04] <ubotu> mandelson: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:04] <ste-foy> yes
[04:04] <ste-foy> thx x3n0
[04:04] <bod_> mandelson: post the errors
[04:05] <x3n0> eh?
[04:05] <ookamidesu> I have a Western digital hard drive that is 40gb according to the lable. but when i check it, the system things its only 7.87GB. Has anyone see this issue before? any tips on checking what could be wrong?
[04:05] <sdfowes> ookamidesu, might be partition size?
[04:06] <x3n0> examine the drive with parted
[04:06] <ookamidesu> no partitions are set. I deleted them all.
[04:06] <sdfowes> whack the mbr?
[04:06] <ookamidesu> good idea.
[04:06] <ookamidesu> I will do that next.
[04:06] <sdfowes> take backup steps
[04:06] <Ashnal> bod_ well i ran it with the aoss command, and this time it didnt spit any errors at me, only crackling
[04:06] <ookamidesu> as always.
[04:06] <ookamidesu> Thank you.
[04:07] <misslecommander> ookamidesu: make sure your BIOS/CMOS detects it properly, some motherboards dont, requiring you to manual config the Hads/Cylinders
[04:07] <sdfowes> 12pk later and confused mv with rm
[04:08] <EcoBlue> I want someone to make lol-buntu
[04:08] <x3n0> rofl
[04:08] <bazhang> funny EcoBlue but offtopic
[04:08] <bod_> Ashnal, damn ,.,. errm,.,. im stumped,.,. u have a sound issue with one particular program and no error messages which means everything thinks its all ok,. so it must be a problem with the game,.,. im afraid
[04:08] <VvWolverinevV> hi, my windows XP computer is unable to see my ubuntu samba shares, and my ubuntu is unable to see my windows xp shares, can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[04:08] <Ashnal> bod_ delving through the game forums i came across this Spring uses OpenAL in linux, which can be configured to use
[04:08] <Ashnal> ALSA instead of OSS (check your /etc/openalrc or ~/.openalrc
[04:08] <bod_> EcoBlue, u make it ,.,.lol,.,.
[04:09] <Ashnal> bod_ can you make sense of that?
[04:09] <x3n0> workgroup names are a good place to start
[04:09] <EcoBlue> bod_: I might
[04:09] <warnet_> cow_baek_cri_cew_baek
[04:09] <bod_> Ashnal, yer ,.,. ALSA is like a sound driver but u can also use OSS instead ,.,. ive only really heard of people using ALSA though ,.,. i dunno wot OpenAl is?
[04:10] <bod_> EcoBlue, il come in for a chat if u do
[04:10] <bod_> nickrud, wots OpenAl?
[04:10] <nickrud> bod_: you mean http://www.openal.org/ ?
[04:11] <bod_> nickrud, yer,.,. how would i tell that to use ALSA?
[04:11] <phantomcircuit> penis
[04:11] <bazhang> phantomcircuit: not here please
[04:11] <DIL_> very LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
[04:11] <Jeah> !language | phantomcircuit
[04:11] <ubotu> phantomcircuit: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[04:11] <bod_> !language | phantomcircuit
[04:12] <nickrud> bod_: not sure, I've never looked at it's config files. My first guess is it would use alsa by default on a linux box these days
[04:12] <bazhang> DIL_: have a question?
[04:12] <warnet__> w_baek
[04:12] <DIL_> no sir
[04:12] <Ashnal> nickrud, well supposedly its using OSS and i need it to use alsa
[04:13] <bod_> nickrud, Ashnal is having probs with crackling sound in a particualr game and the game forums say it uses OpenAl which can use either ALSA or OSS,.,. where would i be able to choose between ALSA & OSS for OpenAl?
[04:13] <mikedep333> !steam
[04:13] <ubotu> Steam can be found at: http://www.steampowered.com/
[04:13] <mikedep333> is there a guide somewhere to steam on ubuntu?
[04:13] <warnet__> moengil
[04:14] <mikedep333> (with the dreaded wine, I know)
[04:14] <nickrud> Ashnal: it can use either according to it's web page, but since I've never looked at it (don't play games on linux) I don't know enough to say anything
[04:14] <bazhang> mikedep333: ubuntuforums has a gaming section; you might check there
[04:14] <genii> limp: Still installing system files?
[04:15] <nickrud> Ashnal: but, you might try installing alsa-oss package, and invoking the game with aoss <gamename>
[04:15] <sdfowes> any ideas!?
[04:15] <bazhang> sdfowes: about what
[04:15] <limp> genii, finalizing
[04:15] <bod_> mikedep333, try this ,.,. http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4119446
[04:15] <Tixer> Is there any way that I can "Upgrade" from 7.10 to 7.10, to cause all packages to be reinstalled?
[04:15] <Ashnal> nickrud, already tried that and it still crackles
[04:15] <Onyx> I'm running an amd64 system, using gutsy for amd64, and I installed grub-gfxboot for amd64... I've edited grub's menu.lst to include the gfxmenu that I want to use, but when I reboot, I still get the same old text-based grub menu.  Has anyone else had trouble getting this going?
[04:15] <limp> genii, ok it's done. I did not reboot. What do I go now for the fat32 partition?
[04:16] <chris449> hi, i've just stuck the ubuntu (7.10) live cd in with the intention of installing it. My last install of ubuntu as nice and graphical, so I was expecting the same thing this time. However, a command prompt came up. I tried typing in startx but it said "no screens found"
[04:16] <genii> limp: OK, good. open up Terminal, let me know when you are in there
[04:16] <adrock358> What is the BEST ubuntu MP3 / media player?
[04:16] <sdfowes> http://pastebin.com/m2e42966f
[04:16] <bod_> chris449, is this a desktop machine or laptop?
[04:16] <EADG> I booted into XP to play a game, now when I try to boot Gutsy it freezes with the error msg; ACPI: PCI Interrupt 000:00:10.0[A] -> GSI 19 (low, level) -> IRQ 22. Any ideas?
[04:16] <nickrud> Ashnal: then you've plumbed by shallow but narrow knowledge of sound :)
[04:16] <chris449> bod_: desktop with nvidia 8800gts
[04:17] <Onyx> adrock358: BEST is certainly subjective, but I prefer amarok by far.
[04:17] <limp> genii, i am.
[04:17] <bazhang> cowon adrock358
[04:17] <adrock358> Anybody else have two cents?
[04:17] <Scunizi> adrock358: need ipod support .. amorak  otherwise your choice
[04:17] <bod_> chris449, u cant install with nvidia card plugged in ,.,. remove the card completely ,. use the standard screen plug,.,. then do the install then put the card back in
[04:17] <genii> limp: sudo mkdir /target/media/shared
[04:17] <chris449> bod_: i changed the xorg.conf to vesa instead of nv, and x starts, but doesn't do anything else... like install ubuntu
[04:17] <Ashnal> nickrud: well i think i found a way to config openAL to use alsa
[04:18] <Ashnal> however i get the feeling it wont work anyways
[04:18] <nickrud> Ashnal: add it to my meager store, will you ?
[04:18] <adrock358> THANK YOU
[04:18] <bod_> adrock358, amarok / (Windows version) realplayer
[04:18] <chris449> bod_: my computer doesn't have any screen plugs on the motherboard
[04:18] <Ashnal> http://supertux.lethargik.org/wiki/OpenAL_Configuration
[04:18] <bod_> chris449, do u mean ur computer HAS TO HAVE a graphics card to have a screen?
[04:18] <genii> limp: Which partition was the sared fat32, sda6 ?
[04:18] <chris449> bod_: yes
[04:18] <genii> *shared
[04:19] <chris449> bod_: i have an old 7900gt lying around, but i really don't want to plug that in (it's broken)
[04:19] <bod_> chris449, r u sure,.,. ive never seen that b4
[04:19] <JoeyJoeJo> Is there an official tutorial on how to install ubuntu to my USB flash drive?
[04:19] <DIL_> ausus kv8se is like that
[04:19] <limp> genii: mkdir: cannot create directory '/target/media/shared': no such file or directory
[04:19] <m0u5e> anyone know any good ubuntu apps for editting pdf files?
[04:19] <Scunizi> chris449: without a video card how do you see what you're doing on a monitor?
[04:19] <bod_> chris449,  i couldnt install while g-cards where in because theyre not supported untill the install is finished
[04:19] <m0u5e> as in editting embeded pdf fields?
[04:19] <limp> genii, shared is on sda6
[04:19] <chris449> I have a video card in my computer, bod_ wants me to remove it
[04:20] <bod_> yer
[04:20] <chris449> there's no graphics anything on my motherboard, it needs a graphics card to have a display
[04:20] <genii> limp: OK. does:   ls /target                 produce anything? (just yes or no, no paste of the result needed)
[04:20] <darkblue_B> wellll I just had a long unhappy experience trying to back up an ubuntu install.. beside the fact that of two disks, either one or the other would boot, somehow apparently of their own will as to whch one is chosen to be the boot disk.. (both have systems) I used partimage to make a backup image of the *good* one, but despite? my indications otherwise, partimage made 2gb image sub-files, and nowhere could I find the incantations
[04:20] <Scunizi> chris449: I have a 6600gt and it worked fine on install
[04:20] <bod_> chris449, im not sure then m8,.,. sorry ,. i couldnt use my nvidia card untill i installed ,.,. maybe try asking nickrud
[04:21] <limp> genii, no output
[04:21] <chris449> Scunizi: I had a 7900gt and installed then too. But now i've upgraded i can't even start a live cd
[04:21] <zachalink> WHY can't I view youtube videos on firefox in ubuntu 7.10??
[04:21] <chris449> bod_: thanks foryour help anyway
[04:21] <Onyx> chris449: Download the nvidia drivers and install them manually.
[04:21] <zachalink> Just a black screen. :(
[04:21] <genii> limp: Ok we need then to re-mount the newly made /   which partition was that one?
[04:21] <Scunizi> chris449: whats the new card
[04:21] <chris449> Onyx: it's a live cd
[04:21] <bod_> zachalink, u need the flash plugin
[04:21] <chris449> Scunizi: 8800gts 512mb version
[04:21] <limp> genii, sda8 is "/" (ubuntu)
[04:21] <zachalink> It doesn't tell me on firefox.
[04:22] <zachalink> What plugin would that be?
[04:22] <Darkmystere> How can i send Folders With Pidgin?
[04:22] <Onyx> chris449: should still be able to do basic things like that afaik
[04:22] <nickrud> bod_: that's not fair, I don't know much at all about nvidia :0
[04:22] <bod_> zachalink, hold on let me find it
[04:22] <limp> genii, why don't we reboot?
[04:22] <genii> limp: OK. so:   sudo mount /dev/sda8 /target
[04:22] <bod_> nickrud, tuff,.,. u shouldnt be so damn good with linux then i wouldnt send everyone to u,.,.lol
[04:22] <Onyx> I'm running an amd64 system, and I installed grub-gfxboot for amd64... I've edited grub's menu.lst to include the gfxmenu that I want to use, but when I reboot, I still get the same old text-based grub menu.  Has anyone else had trouble getting this going?
[04:22] <sdfowes> ahha, people ask what my problem is, post a pastebin, and silence. at least a 'dunno man, check with the developers' or something along those lines would be more appropiate.
[04:22] <Ashnal> nickrud: well apparently my openAL was already set to use ALSA it seems
[04:22] <genii> limp: Did the installer format it as vfat?
[04:22] <jetscreamer> zachalink: mozilla-flash mozilla-java mozilla-vnc .. the names are going to be a tad different
[04:23] <limp> genii, that's done.
[04:23] <Ashnal> nickrud: so it must be a problem with alsa?
[04:23] <jetscreamer> chris449: that card isn't well supported yet
[04:23] <Naisenu> Okay. I have what should be an easy task, but I can't figure it out right now. How do I create a "shortcut"/"link" on my desktop to a server that I own and regularly upload things to?
[04:23] <Scunizi> chris449: that I think is one of the cards that is not supported without the latest drivers.. although nv in xorg.conf I  would think would work for the insall.. You might try the alternate cd or put the old card back in until the sys is installed.
[04:23] <jetscreamer> chris449: use the text installer
[04:23] <bazhang> sdfowes: I have asked you several times but crickets from your end
[04:23] <genii> limp: ok so again:  sudo mkdir /target/media/shared
[04:23] <zachalink> Also, I click on a higher resolution to use, and it doesn't switch it. What gives?
[04:23] <nickrud> Ashnal: Does anything else sound bad?  Have you checked the support forums for the game?
[04:23] <sdfowes> http://pastebin.com/m2e42966f that's my problem.
[04:23] <astro76> Naisenu: places menu > connect to server
[04:23] <limp> genii, why are all the files in "/" the same in /target ?
[04:23] <sdfowes> crickets?
[04:23] <zachalink> And yes, my drivers are installed.
[04:23] <Darkmystere> nickrud: Err how do i send Folders with Pidgin or how do i host a ftp Server ? Or whats a good site to upload files/folders
[04:23] <chris449> jetscreamer: how do i use the text installer (sorry for silly question), the 'setup' command doesn't work
[04:24] <sdfowes> where would i go to find different chipset drivers to use?
[04:24] <limp> genii, ok I executed that. No change
[04:24] <sdfowes> is it even possible to use other drivers?
[04:24] <chris449> Scunizi: old card's broken
[04:24] <genii> limp: We have basically spliced the / of the new system into an existing subdir called /target
[04:24] <jetscreamer> chris449: i don't know i've never used it.
[04:24] <Ashnal> bod_ would you happen to know how to increase the buffer size for alsa?
[04:24] <chris449> jetscreamer: lol fair enough, i'll try onyx's suggestion of installing the latest nvidia drivers
[04:25] <genii> limp: OK, now: sudo su
[04:25] <nickrud> Darkmystere: not a clue about pidgin, I don't use it. You can host a ftp server with any of    /msg ubotu ftpd   . Sites to upload to, I'm not sure I have my own server out there some where to put stuff on
[04:25] <Scunizi> chris449: ahh... sorry to hear that.  The alternate cd is the text installer.. download and burn then boot to it..  no gui
[04:25] <bod_> Ashnal, sorry i dont no much about sound,.,.?,.,.
[04:25] <sdfowes> LOTS of ata issues; that are linux related. i've ruled out hardware problems.
[04:25] <bod_> zachalink, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[04:25] <limp> genii, root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu
[04:25] <sdfowes> am i still replying with 'crickets'?
[04:25] <sdfowes> i'm lost on the cricket stuff
[04:26] <chris449> Scunizi: ok i'll download the alternate, thanks for your help, though i'll still have to install the nvidia drivers when i load it up lol
[04:26] <kingpin> ok.. so I've been trying to get my new atheros wifi card working.. it just wouldn't scan. I recently found this: [ 1648.926332] rt61: module has no symbols (stripped?) [ 1648.926835] unable to load wlan_scan_sta, which would probably explain why I can't scan.. can anyone help me?
[04:26] <genii> limp: Then: echo "/dev/sda6 /media/shared     vfat    defaults,users 0       1" >> /target/etc/fstab
[04:26] <Naisenu> ty astro76 ... i knew it had to be easy ... but heh
[04:26] <kingpin> my old wifi card used rt61
[04:26] <bod_> Ashnal, try linux google ,.,. www.google.com/linux
[04:26] <Scunizi> chris449: easier to do with an installed system :)
[04:26] <Naisenu> kingpin: Eee perchance?
[04:26] <zachalink> so flash can't really work yet? lame
[04:26] <bazhang> !who | sdfowes
[04:26] <ubotu> sdfowes: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[04:26] <bod_> zachalink, my flash works perfect
[04:26] <chris449> Scuzini: even though it won't have any X server?
[04:26] <zachalink> Oh.
[04:27] <sdfowes> bazhang, http://pastebin.com/m2e42966f
[04:27] <bod_> zachalink, download the file in the blue text from ,.,. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397
[04:27] <kingpin> Naisenu i only speak english
[04:27] <sdfowes> bazhang, helpful?
[04:27] <bazhang> sdfowes: this the dual layer burning problem?
[04:27] <zachalink> but... I have to register. :( oh well
[04:27] <sdfowes> bazhang, no
[04:27] <sdfowes> bazhang, ata
[04:27] <Pirate-King> how do you unpatch ---> patch -p1 < gp_8psk.20071104.diff
[04:27] <m0u5e> anyone know any good ubuntu apps for editting pdf files?
[04:27] <m0u5e> as in editting embeded pdf fields?
[04:27] <bod_> zachalink, its well worth it
[04:27] <genii> limp: Did that complete successfully?
[04:27] <Scunizi> chris449: oh it may install a basic x.  Even from the command line following instructions you should be able to install the driver then ctrl+alt+backspace to restart x
[04:27] <limp> genii, done. how much time left? I have to go soon?
[04:27] <sdfowes> bazhang, random freeze then unfreeze
[04:27] <genii> limp: Did that complete successfully?
[04:28] <Naisenu> kingpin: So do I. And so was my response. I asked if you are using an Asus Eee PC; as said computer uses an Atheros card.
[04:28] <limp> genii, yes
[04:28] <sdfowes> bazhang, each freeze, dmesg prints out ata issues
[04:28] <genii> limp: Then we're done
[04:28] <bazhang> sdfowes when doing what? related to the burning or no
[04:28] <lachish> anybody here have experience with getting gutsy, compiz, and a thinkpad laptop with a mobile ATI card passing video out the video port correctly?   I haven't tried yet, but in alot of reading, I am not convinced that it works
[04:28] <sdfowes> bazhang, anything
[04:28] <sdfowes> bazhang, does it when doing nothing.
[04:28] <limp> genii, ok i'll try rebooting,
[04:28] <sdfowes> bazhang, does it less with media in the drive
[04:28] <sdfowes> bazhang, what are crickets?
[04:28] <genii> limp: I'll be here
[04:28] <chris449> Scunizi: trying now, though i think i may have to go to the shop to buy more CD's, it seems that was my last one -.-
[04:29] <limp> genii, its on an other computer
[04:29] <sdfowes> bazhang, how do i get them? apt-get install crickets?
[04:29] <bod_> chris449, u can put the cd-iso's on a usb stick,.,. it works the same
[04:29] <Ashnal> nickrud: where might i find the module name for my sound card?
[04:29] <Scunizi> chris449: nice to know it's early enough to get to a store
[04:29] <limp> genii, oh cool grub installed :)
[04:29] <htns_> I'm having some trouble with switch keyboard layouts to Korean
[04:30] <chris449> bod_: don't have a usb stick with that much free space
[04:30] <htns_> I can switch to it, but it types only in QWERTY instead
[04:30] <chris449> Scunizi: it's 3:30pm ;)
[04:30] <nickrud> Ashnal:  lsmod | grep snd, it will probably be the first module listed
[04:30] <mikedep333> thanks bod_
[04:30] <htns_> I know in Windows, you can just press left-Alt and it switches between QWERTY and HANGUL
[04:30] <bod_> chris449, oh ,.ok,.,. was just trying to save u a fe £
[04:30] <htns_> Anybody have any ideas?
[04:30] <kingpin> ok well ill try again.. I recently switched wifi cards.. my new atheros card won't scan and I think this is why: [ 1648.926332] rt61: module has no symbols (stripped?) [ 1648.926835] unable to load wlan_scan_sta. My old card used rt61. Any help?
[04:30] <Scunizi> chris449: you in hawaii or guam?
[04:30] <bazhang> sdfowes: first of all that is not helpful; do you have an external drive attached?
[04:30] <chris449> Scunizi; Melbourne, Australia
[04:31] <Scunizi> chris449: always wanted to visit. no time or $ after kids
[04:31] <zachalink> thanks for the flash fix. now about my screen resolution. when I put it to a higher resolution, it does absolutely nothing. and yes, my restricted drivers are installed.
[04:31] <crwlr> im installing ubuntu studio 7.10.  any opinions on this release?
[04:31] <Darkmystere> Err guys im getting this error when it ry and start synapticsFailed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root.Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[04:31] <sdfowes> bazhang, you said i was giving crickets, i need to know what they are so i don't give them again. no external devices. as far as i can tell , it only does it in linux, including other distros such as fedora, redhat, suse, it does NOT do freeze/unfreeze with windows, freebsd, nebsd, openbsd.
[04:31] <bazhang> crwlr: need to install loads of codecs
[04:31] <Tixer> Is there a command on ubuntu to reinstall everything, to essentially blank the machine, which can be run over ssh?
[04:31] <Scunizi> crwlr: the same options as most other nx installs... :)
[04:31] <chris449> Scunizi: where are you?
[04:32] <zachalink> and strangely enough, I am still not able to view youtube videos, even though I manually installed flash
[04:32] <Scunizi> chris449: california
[04:32] <sdfowes> bazhang, so i'm assuming it's software related issue, SO, where can i find other ide chipset drivers, if that is even an option to go about.
[04:32] <bazhang> sdfowes: we are volunteers here
[04:32] <jrib> zachalink: did you restart firefox?
[04:32] <crwlr> bazhang: codecs are aight.  its it a good release?
[04:32] <crwlr> is*
[04:32] <zachalink> hmm, I"ll try that... now about my resolution. ^_^
[04:32] <bazhang> crwlr: very very nice
[04:32] <crwlr> bazhang: thank ya much :)
[04:32] <jetscreamer> [22.34.10] <dpkg> extra, extra, read all about it, reinstall is aptitude reinstall '~i' ; or COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > my_packages.txt , then later, dpkg --set-selections < my_packages.txt && apt-get install .  See also <aptitude clone>.
[04:32] <sdfowes> bazhang, i understand your volunteers. if you could, explain where i said you werent.
[04:33] <Onyx> chris449: Any luck?
[04:33] <sdfowes> bazhang, i'm trying my best to fully explain the situation.
[04:33] <chris449> Scunizi: wouldn't mind visiting there either :P
[04:33] <bazhang> sdfowes: perhaps someone else can help you; I have to step away for a moment
[04:33] <chris449> Onyx: trying now
[04:33] <Tixer> Is there a command on ubuntu to reinstall everything, to essentially blank the machine, which can be run over ssh?
[04:33] <Scunizi> chris449: you got an external usb drive to offload the files on your usb stick?
[04:33] <RB2> Out of the box, how much ram will ubuntu recognize without having to recompile the kernel?
[04:33] <crwlr> bazhang: you know quite a bit about ubuntu, right?
[04:34] <genii> RB2: ~4
[04:34] <chris449> Scunizi: it's 512mb, so not enough for a whole iso. though which files doyou mean?
[04:34] <chris449> Onyx: i tried to install linux-restricted-modules-generic but it's already up to date
[04:34] <DIL_> Tixer, save any data you want need  and us cd to reinstall
[04:34] <bazhang> crwlr: not really--but join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat :}
[04:35] <dduong> RB2: Around 3.5gb.  I recently installed 4gb in my laptop and ubuntu only reconized 3.5
[04:35] <Ashnal> nickrud: now how do i tell ubuntu to use my onboard sound instead of my audigy?
[04:35] <jetscreamer> no there is no reinstall
[04:35] <crwlr> no, i need to know if the belkin 54g wireless usb drivers are already good to go with studio
[04:35] <Scunizi> chris449: I'm not sure but you might be able to get the "server" iso on that.  once installed sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:35] <limp> genii, oops, closed. So uuuh, I cannot write on shared...
[04:35] <RB2> genii dduong, thanks!
[04:35] <sdfowes> !who
[04:35] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[04:35] <sdfowes> !what
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <jetscreamer> !where when why
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about where when why - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <limp> genii, cannot paste files, cannot create directories etc...
[04:35] <nickrud> Ashnal: you would create an ~/.asound.conf file and tell it there. The syntax, I don't know
[04:35] <xen_> Hey there how do i mount and IDE HD and be able to access it without root permissions, say if the HD had music and i wanted to play music from it with amorak? using Kubuntu
[04:35] <xen_> anyone?
[04:36] <Onyx> chris449: You'll not want to use the ubuntu package -- you'll want the package directly from the nvidia website.
[04:36] <xen_> i can mount it, but need root
[04:36] <RB2> genii, If I have more than 4, do I need to recompile with largemem support? (or is that with largemem support)
[04:36] <bazhang> crwlr: not really sure about that--are they the usb dongles? I have had bad luck with those
[04:36] <ArthurArchnix> RB2 if your machine supports 64 bit.. heck, I'm not sure what the limit is.
[04:36] <xen_> but how do i actually be able to access it after moutning it without root?
[04:36] <Darkmystere> Can some 1 help me? I keep gettin this error:Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root.
[04:36] <Darkmystere> Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[04:36] <lupos\royman> Im looking for some program that can stream movies/music over the network. Preferably if I could watch it through the webbrowser but that isnt a must. Anyone got any idea?
[04:36] <ArthurArchnix> RB2 just install ubuntu 64bit version
[04:36] <jetscreamer> xen_: depending on the fs, youwould use umask and gid and uid in the mount command
[04:36] <Scunizi> !permissions | xen
[04:36] <ubotu> xen: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[04:36] <chris449> Onyx: how do i do that?
[04:36] <JoeyJoeJo> xen_: sounds like you need to edit your /etc/fstab file
[04:36] <Ashnal> nickrud: what does the ~/ in front of that path mean?
[04:36] <genii> limp: Next step:  open again Terminal, then: sudo mkdir /media/shared/username         <-- where username is your user name
[04:36] <xen_> rats, so theres no "point and click" alternative?
[04:36] <Onyx> chris449: Are you on i386, or amd64, or what?
[04:36] <chris449> Scuzini: looking for the server iso now, though it doesn't seem to be mirrored near me
[04:37] <crwlr> bazhang: ur correct about the dongles.  i guess it will be a shot in the dark...regular ubuntu does good with it, but i want to give studio a shot so I spose i will see what happens
[04:37] <nickrud> Ashnal: ~ is a shortcut for /home/<you>  , your home directory
[04:37] <chris449> Onyx: i have amd64 though I'm using the i386 install
[04:37] <JoeyJoeJo> xen_: I don't know if there is a point and click solution, but editing your fstab file will work
[04:37] <Onyx> chris449: Ah, that could be part of the problem...
[04:37] <RB2> ArthurArchnix, I probably will, but I've heard of some problems with the 64-bit (in relation to apps I'm running). I thought that at some point, dynamic addressing was implemented so 32-bit could scale.
[04:37] <Scunizi> chris449: www.ubuntu.com then follow the download link..
[04:37] <chris449> Onyx: never affected me before
[04:37] <bazhang> crwlr: you can enable the ubuntu studio repos and install stuff from there on top of your working ubuntu install
[04:37] <xen_> ok, i have no knowledge of fstab, where can i find out how to do what i want?
[04:37] <genii> limp: then: sudo chown -R <your user name>:<your user name> /media/shared/<the dirname we made before>
[04:37] <dduong> RB2:  I've converted to 64 last night from i386 and I'm loving it :)
[04:37] <compy> so other than apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras whats another command like that i should install to get all the other libs and codecs?
[04:37] <jetscreamer>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[04:38] <crwlr> bazhang: unfortunately...not installed on my desktop, only the laptop...and no wired internet connection, just wireless.  hrmmm.
[04:38] <Scunizi> chris449: Onyx i386 install won't matter on 64 bit..
[04:38] <JoeyJoeJo> xen_: remember, google is your friend.. if it doesn't know something, it's not worth knowing... http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[04:38] <bazhang> compy:  visit www.medibuntu.org
[04:38] <flamsmark> what's the right way to install the root inside an encrypted volume on a raid5 array, with the alternate install disk?
[04:38] <Onyx> chris449: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/169.09/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.09-pkg1.run
[04:38] <limp> genii, operation not permitted
[04:38] <crwlr> that's correct.  dont worry about the version, chris449.  x86 should work just fine on ur x64 system
[04:38] <xen_> i realise google is my friend, but linux is not as friendly
[04:39] <RB2> dduong, Is there a noticeable performance impact?
[04:39] <chris449> Onyx: i have to type all that in don't i -.- my computer's in the other room, this is the family one
[04:39] <JoeyJoeJo> xen_: I know what you mean.. it was the same way for me when I first started out
[04:39] <genii> limp: Which operation? chmod or the mkdir one?
[04:39] <chris449> Onyx: err.. that sounded like i was stupid, i know i have to type it in lol
[04:39] <limp> genii, chown
[04:39] <Scunizi> xen_: with companionship comes knowledge and friendship
[04:39] <xen_> Joeyjoejo thanks for the link btw, ill do some reading up
[04:39] <crwlr> chris449: ya had me fooled...for a sec...HAHAHAHA!
[04:39] <dduong> RB2:  64bit is so much faster for me...especially while extracting compressed files and program load and run faster
[04:39] <Onyx> chris449: heh, i feel your pain... i had to do it recently when i updated xorg...
[04:39] <JoeyJoeJo> xen_: no problem
[04:40] <Scunizi> xen_: stick with linux and it'll be your friend too
[04:40] <limp> genii, i'll try in root
[04:40] <xen_> with knowledge and friendship comes arguements and mid life crisis
[04:40] <RB2> xen_, lol
[04:40] <Scunizi> xen_: then a red mazaratti
[04:40] <xen_> :P
[04:40] <misslecommander> Darkmystere: try tunning it from Terminal> sudu -i , then synaptic
[04:40] <xen_> lol
[04:40] <dduong> RB2:  I have also installed Warcraft III and WoW and they are running fine with no problems
[04:40] <chris449> Scunizi: server edition just too big for usb stick i think (499mb), i'll try Onyx's suggestion first
[04:40] <Scunizi> k
[04:40] <limp> genii, still won't work in root.
[04:41] <Onyx> chris449: Just wget that file, chmod +x it, then execute it with sudo.
[04:41] <misslecommander> Darkmyster: typohell my bad > sudo -i , then synaptic   type in Terminal
[04:41] <ArthurArchnix> RB2 I've not heard  of that. I'm skeptical. From what I've read.. 32bit only has enough addresses for 4gb of ram.
[04:41] <crwlr> here's a good question...I had my system up and going with an nvidia geforce 6600 video card in it, and it came up with a purple screen...so i restarted it and then it was just a black screen...any suggestions?
[04:41] <poutine> t
[04:41] <Onyx> crwlr: Your drivers are probably messed up.
[04:41] <genii> limp: sudo nano /etc/fstab                    then make defaults,users   of the /dev/sda6   line into:  user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000                  ctrl-x to exit, Y to save changes
[04:41] <RB2> dduong, I'll have to try it out at some point for this box. I've gotta' do a fresh install of a new server and I'm trying to decide 32bit vs 64bit
[04:41] <crwlr> onyx: this was just the live cd
[04:42] <Onyx> what's with all these people having trouble on live cds?
[04:42] <Scunizi> crwlr: does the card have it's own power connector?
[04:42] <RB2> ArthurArchnix, I remember reading it somewhere, but I don't really remember exactly where; take it with a grain of salt.
[04:42] <crwlr> scunizi: negative
[04:42] <limp> genii, wait wait, how do u do that ?
[04:42] <Darkmystere> misslecommander: it worked how can i fix it for me?
[04:42] <genii> limp: just use the arrow keys to navigate inside of the editing program called nano
[04:42] <Scunizi> crwlr: is it agp? my 6600 agp has  a pwr connecor.
[04:43]  * RB2 is considering installing Ubuntu Server and giving it a test drive. I've always stuck with CentOS in the past.
[04:43] <crwlr> sunizi: pci express
[04:43] <Javid> !make > Javid
[04:43] <sdfowes> bazhang, you all done being pissed at me for being as clear as possible?
[04:43] <Scunizi> crwlr: ah
[04:43] <dduong> RB2:  Cool, I'm going to convert my server to 64bit for sure after experiencing it for the first time on my laptop.
[04:43] <sdfowes> hahaha
[04:43] <genii> limp: The backspace can be used to back over defaults,users          and type in there instead user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[04:43] <misslecommander> Darkmystere: i am looking, i will message if i find a good solution
[04:43] <crwlr> scunizi: picked it up for 40 bucks from some guy off of craigslist.org
[04:43] <fatedkiss> tritium, you in here
[04:44] <misslecommander> Darkmystere: just wanted you to still be able to use it. i'll message in a bit
[04:44] <limp> genii, k done
[04:45] <genii> limp: OK, so ctrl-x   to exit, Y to save (unless done already)
[04:45] <htns_> Guys...
[04:45] <htns_> I'm trying to type in Korean
[04:45] <htns_> It's not working
[04:45] <Javid> can I get the source for a package from apt, or do I have to find it myself?
[04:45] <limp> genii, that's done too. I still cannot write
[04:45] <genii> limp: Then: sudo umount /media/shared
[04:45] <htns_> I tried the package manager and installed all sorts of stuff
[04:45] <Darkmystere> ok
[04:45] <htns_> Please halp
[04:45] <UberDay> does anyone know anything about cedega im trying to find the folder it installs games into?
[04:45] <genii> limp: then: mount /media/shared
[04:45] <sdfowes> i love this channel such nice volunteers, bazhang is one of them, such a nice person.
[04:46] <sdfowes> round of applause to bazhang
[04:46] <stuudz> Hi!
[04:46] <dehspehl> UberDay: ~/.wine or ~/.cedega perhaps?
[04:46] <limp> genii, wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda6, missing codepage ......
[04:46] <UberDay> i dont use wine but ill look
[04:47] <xen_> hmm this fstab looks a little bit more complicated in my file :S
[04:47] <crwlr> studio install is cleaning up!  WOOT!
[04:47] <rouwenpi> hi there, please i'm in trouble here .... i've installed the server ubuntu ... how can i configure my keyboard without xorg ?
[04:47] <tecywiz121> Hey, quick question:  my bios see's ~3000Mb of ram, system monitor displays 2.2gb
[04:47] <genii> limp: again: sudo nano /etc/fstab                                  this time highlight with the mouse the line which contains /dev/sda6  right-click, copy                 then paste here
[04:48] <bazhang> sdfowes: perhaps you would like to join me in #ubuntu-offtopic :}
[04:48] <xen_> how do i find out where the IDE is in /dev? i know its in /media/whatever, but i cant find it in /dev
[04:48] <sdfowes> i need technical help.
[04:48] <JoeyJoeJo> xen_: run the command 'mount'
[04:48] <JoeyJoeJo> xen_: it will tell you that /dev/whatever is mounted at /media/whatever
[04:48] <genii> xen_: Some get mounted with nodev option and have no /dev entries
[04:49] <xen_> ah cool, ty i see it now
[04:49] <tecywiz121> xen_: or run ls /dev/hd*
[04:49] <sdfowes> rm -Rv ./documentary
[04:49] <limp> genii, /dev/sda6 /media/shared vfat helix,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 1
[04:49] <bazhang> sdfowes: then I would suggest toning it down a bit--others here can read too, you know
[04:49] <stuudz> I have a problem here... I have install gutsy gibbon and now i want to install Win Xp Pro SP2 on my second partiton and it doesn't work.... when I boot with the windows CD it say that any HDD is find.... But to install vista it's working very well.... any idea?
[04:49] <limp> genii, have to go real soon
[04:49] <sdfowes> everyone can read.
[04:49] <DIL_> the expansion card take up memory as well
[04:49] <sdfowes> if it makes you happy, ban me.
[04:49] <sdfowes> god dan.
[04:49] <sdfowes> damn*
[04:49] <genii> limp: the part starting "helix" is incorrect
[04:49] <chris449> Onyx: no precompiled kernal interface was found to match your kernal
[04:49] <Qrawl> whats the shell command to set wallpaper
[04:49] <stuudz> *** HDD is not found.... sorry
[04:49] <limp> genii, what should it be ??
[04:49] <genii> limp: user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0
[04:50] <stuudz> I have a problem here... I have install gutsy gibbon and now i want to install Win Xp Pro SP2 on my second partiton and it doesn't work.... when I boot with the windows CD it say that any HDD is not found.... But to install vista it's working very well.... any idea?
[04:50] <jamisou> trouble installing flashplayer on hardy heron... i've downloaded, installed but no flashplayer...?
[04:50] <Onyx> chris449: That's fine, let the script build the drivers.
[04:50] <xen_> hmm seems i doesnt appear in mount, nor does it appear in ls /dev/hd*
[04:50] <bazhang> sdfowes: I would not want to do that--just try to be bit more patient--if someone knows they will help you
[04:50] <genii> limp: don't substitute your name there :)
[04:50] <Johnson_> im trying to access a mounted network folder, and every time i try to do an operation on the folder like open it, or get its property i get a message saying "open folder u can stop this operation by clicking cancel" how do i fix this
[04:50] <misslecommander> Darkmystere: check this out, tell me how it goes please > http://www.linuxweblog.com/ubuntu-install#comment-133
[04:50] <xen_> but dolphin can see it :S
[04:50] <rouwenpi> can i configure my keyboard without xorg please ?
[04:50] <sdfowes> bazhang, you see me pasting line after line 10 seconds apart? no, i think i'm being quite patient.
[04:50] <desertc> stuudz: need to install windows first, or MS will take over your boot and keep ubuntu from loading
[04:50] <chris449> Onyx: You do not appear to have libc header files installed on your system
[04:51] <UberDay> nope dehspehl its not there
[04:51] <limp> genii, k edited with "user" instead of "helix", should i try to remount?
[04:51] <limp> genii, mount worked
[04:51] <genii> limp: then  ctrl-x      Y   Return                       then again: sudo umount /media/shared                        then: mount /media/shared
[04:51] <JoeyJoeJo> xen_: run the mount command and copy the ouput to pastebin
[04:51] <dehspehl> UberDay: cedega is proprietary so by convention some of the stuff might be in opt
[04:51] <genii> limp: Good
[04:51] <chris449> Onyx: it then tells me that installation failed
[04:51] <Onyx> chris449: Ergh... doesn't look like it will work then, because you need to install a C compiler... thought ubuntu included that by default :/
[04:51] <genii> limp: Try to put something there now
[04:51] <limp> genii, i can now write, i think
[04:51] <xen_> !paste
[04:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:51] <DIL_> stuudz, it may serve you better to install ubuntu last
[04:51] <stuudz> desertc, I know but it's very easy to reinstall GRUB..... And i don't wan to format my ubuntu partition....
[04:52] <chris449> Onyx: the whole reason i'm doing this is to write C programs -.- seems a little ironic
[04:52] <Scunizi> sdfowes: not sure what your technical issue is ... perhaps restating it for someone else to answer.. I'm getting tire of  reading the banter between you and bazhang
[04:52] <limp> genii, ok perfect i'll try from windows now
[04:52] <chris449> Onyx: *compile c programs, someone else wrote it
[04:52] <Onyx> chris449: Ouch... want to try to install a compiler?
[04:52] <misslecommander> Darkmystere: review it first. backup any changes you make.
[04:52] <crwlr> bazhang...i gots me a problem now...it's just showing a black screen...studio just installed...idk what to do other than whip out the vista cd...
[04:52] <limp> genii, wouldn't of done it without you gosh!
[04:52] <tecywiz121> Anyone?
[04:52] <chris449> Onyx: can i apt get the compiler? what's it called?
[04:52] <dehspehl> chris449: Onyx: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:52] <xen_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52975/
[04:52] <UberDay> ok im a newbie to linux dehspehl so i dont know what you mean by opt
[04:52] <limp> genii, ok GF getting mad now -.-
[04:52] <Onyx> dehspehl: Thanks :)
[04:53] <rouwenpi> UberDay: /opt
[04:53] <genii> limp: Heh, go then... have fun
[04:53] <Qrawl> whats the shell command to set wallpaper
[04:53] <bazhang> crwlr: this is on the desktop? or the laptop
[04:53] <crwlr> desktop
[04:53] <limp> genii, have to try under windows, first, haha
[04:53] <misslecommander> grep something or other ?
[04:53] <sdfowes> Scunizi, page up maybe? i'll post and make it easy http://pastebin.com/m2e42966f
[04:53] <crwlr> i have ubuntu 7.10 on the laptop
[04:53] <dehspehl> Onyx: that gives you enough to build for instance a kernel, but you will probably need to get -dev packages if there are dependencies
[04:53] <patogen> All videos I playback look ugly, they do play but they look way worse than on win
[04:53] <JoeyJoeJo> xen_: what is sdb1?
[04:53] <patogen> is there a way to fix this?
[04:53] <Geoffrey2> is it possible to make an existing ext3 partition larger?
[04:53] <chris449> dehsphel: thanks trying now
[04:54] <DIL_> tecywiz121, fyi expansion cards take up memory as well
[04:54] <Jangari> how do i change the default file browser from nautilus to thunar?
[04:54] <bazhang> crwlr: that is odd; does the livecd work at all? or just the black screen? can you start up in safe mode?
[04:54] <dehspehl> UberDay: i think it's ~/.transgaming
[04:54] <UberDay> yup somethings there dehsphel just the link to it. im just trying to figure out if theres a c_drive
[04:54] <Onyx> dehspehl: Ahh okay -- I know I have that installed on my system, just didn't know what it was called (I come from OpenBSD and Slackware mindset...) -- I built my custom kernel immediately after install, heh.
[04:54] <UberDay> yah i just went there
[04:54] <limp> genii, i was able to write, now i'll see if i can modify / delete / access from linux, then i'm in bed
[04:54] <UberDay> i cant find that i saw that on the ubuntu site
[04:54] <xen_> Joeyjoejo thats weird, it wasnt there the first time i ran mount
[04:54] <nano__> Hey, If my router isnt working with linux, how would I modify it (settings wise) so that it does?
[04:54] <xen_> that must be the IDE im trying to get at
[04:54] <crwlr> bazhang: i have the alt install cd for studio.  tried the ubuntu 7.10 cd and it came up purple...like it was outta range.  tried the 7.04 cd and it just came up with noghitng
[04:54] <dehspehl> UberDay: ls -a ~
[04:54] <genii> limp: Alright. Don't make your gf madder LOL
[04:54] <Darkmystere> misslecommander: Sorry was afk
[04:54] <crwlr> nothing*
[04:55] <misslecommander> Darkmystere: check this out, tell me how it goes please > http://www.linuxweblog.com/ubuntu-install#comment-133
[04:55] <stuudz> how can i view all partitions in Windows XP install CD after gutsy was install?
[04:55] <limp> genii, i'll make it up
[04:55] <misslecommander> treview first
[04:55] <sdfowes> Scunizi, ata problems. random freeze/unfreeze, doing anything to doing nothing. massive errors like that in the buffer
[04:55] <misslecommander> Darkmystere: review it first. backup any changes
[04:55] <tecywiz121> DIL_, I have 4 gigs in there, but afaik the BIOS can only see three of it...  When I had a gig, about 800megs was being reported
[04:55] <Scunizi> sdfowes: you trying to run vmware?  unfortunatly I'm not up to answering your paste.. I just don't have the answer..
[04:55] <chris449> Onyx, dehspehl: is installing :)
[04:55] <jetscreamer> stuudz: fdisk -l
[04:55] <sdfowes> no vmware.
[04:55] <JoeyJoeJo> xen_: cool.. so when you make your new entry in fstab, make sure it says /dev/sdb1
[04:55] <bazhang> crwlr: you have ethernet access for the alt install cd computer? if I recall correctly there is a install drivers option at the end of that install process
[04:55] <sdfowes> Scunizi, not runnign vmware. it does it from boot until shutdown, just ideling. does it less with media in cdrom drive
[04:55] <Scunizi> sdfowes: sure looks like there's a vmware driver trying to load.. but I could be wrong
[04:56] <DIL_> bad stick
[04:56] <Javid> can I get the source for a package from apt, or do I have to find it myself?
[04:56] <chris449> Onyx: yay X ran, though a fat lot of good it did, how do i get the install started?
[04:56] <tecywiz121> DIL_, Think so?
[04:56] <stuudz> jetscreamer, no.... in the installation of Windows XP....
[04:56] <sdfowes> Scunizi, it does it from the livecd, which i'm sure has no vmware install on it.
[04:56] <xen_> JoeyJoeJo yup cool, ty
[04:56] <crwlr> bazhang: didn't come across that option.  the alt cd install is the desktop
[04:56] <Onyx> chris449: The system install?
[04:56] <sdfowes> Scunizi, but i may be wrong.
[04:56] <UberDay> nothing showed up with the transgameing folder deh but ill keep looking around im bound to find it sooner or later
[04:56] <DIL_> try them alternatively
[04:56] <chris449> Onyx: yeah\
[04:56] <patogen> is there a way to fix this?
[04:56] <patogen> All videos I playback look ugly, they do play but they look way worse than on win
[04:56] <limp> genii, ok perfect! finally outta this nightmare.. have to install apache etc now....;
[04:56] <Onyx> chris449: Should be an option in one of the menus, or on the desktop as far as I remember
[04:56] <Scunizi> sdfowes: sorry I don't have the answer to your technical problem
[04:56] <Cpt_Qtek> Hi I'm having this issue with Grub ... I have a computer with ubuntu 7.10 using Grub to boot it.  Now I've also have this USB stick with the Ubuntu live system on it.  Is there a way I can tell Grub on my computer to boot from the usb stick ?  The usb device = /dev/sdc1 , how can I tell Grub to boot from it ?
[04:56] <limp> genii, thanks again! see ya!
[04:56] <genii> limp: Bye, have fun
[04:56] <tecywiz121> DIL_, kk
[04:56] <tecywiz121> thx
[04:57] <chris449> Onyx: i'm looking at a liney screen and the cursor is an x
[04:57] <dehspehl> UberDay: could locate transgaming
[04:57] <eshaase> any idea how to make opera feel more native?
[04:57] <Onyx> chris449: Ahhh okay
[04:57] <sdfowes> Scunizi, that's fine, i'm still waiting, as bazhang suggested.
[04:57] <QMario> Have any of you experienced a bug in which when you press "Ctrl+Tab" on the last tab of Konqueror 4, it crashes immediately?
[04:57] <bazhang> crwlr: how much ram in the desktop? did the livecd for the laptop work in the desktop?
[04:57] <cafuego> eshaase: install and run KDE
[04:57] <sdfowes> patiently.
[04:57] <dehspehl> UberDay: locate transgaming, locate cedega.. hopefully something will show up
[04:57] <UberDay> where is it located exactly
[04:57] <genii> QMario:  #kubuntu
[04:57] <anony> hi... when i press the up/down volume control on my keyboard, it changes the wrong sound slider...  any ideas? I"m using a Microsoft Wireless MultiMedia Keyboard 1.1.
[04:57] <crwlr> bazhang: i got 2gb of ram in it.  livecd worked in laptop but not desktop
[04:57] <misslecommander> i think > sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg  < at login screen using Ctrl Alt F1 to enter Terminal , fixed my random desktop freeze issue. i took my time to make sure all was correct
[04:57] <Onyx> chris449: You'll want to do this... /etc/init.d/gdm start
[04:57] <sdfowes> would anyone know if it's possible to use a different driver?
[04:58] <jetscreamer> stuudz: ask in ##windows maybe
[04:58] <chris449> Onyx: switch to a terminal first?
[04:58] <Scunizi> sdfowes: you have to restate you problem every 4-5 minutes.... succinctly
[04:58] <Onyx> chris449: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start -- do that out of x
[04:58] <bazhang> crwlr: what about safe mode in desktop? did that not work?
[04:58] <dehspehl> UberDay: 'locate' command
[04:58] <sdfowes> wouldn't that result in a ban?
[04:58] <Onyx> chris449: Shut down x first -- ctrl+alt+backspace
[04:58] <eshaase> cafuego: opera plays better with kde?
[04:58] <compy> when i play a movie its all fuzzy and not clear at all.  Anyone know what i should do?
[04:58] <sdfowes> channel flooding?
[04:58] <Darkmystere> ok  Err How do i figure out the URL For my FTP server i made with gproftpd ?
[04:58] <anony>  hi... when i press the up/down volume control on my keyboard, it changes the wrong sound slider...  any ideas? I"m using a Microsoft Wireless MultiMedia Keyboard 1.1.
[04:58] <sdfowes> Scunizi, does ubuntu come with more then one ide chipset driver?
[04:58] <crwlr> hang on for that one, bazhang...tryin some hardware troubleshooting.  actually logged in on the desktop without the video showing.
[04:58] <CppIsWeird> can anyone tell me how to confiure my wireless via command line, so far ive managed to set my wireless interfaces IP, and ive given iwconfig my router essid and key, how come nothings happening?
[04:59] <UberDay> holy hell lol ok i found it deh
[04:59] <cafuego> eshaase: Well, opera uses the Qt widget library, so it uses KDE theming.
[04:59] <UberDay> thanks much
[04:59] <Scunizi> Darkmystere: it's your ip then the port usually
[04:59] <bazhang> crwlr: okay
[04:59] <misslecommander> anony: something similiar, when i roll wy wheel to turn up the volume on real player, up is down, down is up :)
[04:59] <cafuego> eshaase: Which makes it authamgically use whatever you select if you run KDE. You can of course also install the KDE control center and tweak its theme to look like Gnome.
[04:59] <anony> missilecommander: any ideas?
[04:59] <dehspehl> cafuego: eshaase: i actually don't get why they do, they had to pay. coulda just used Gtk
[04:59] <Scunizi> Darkmystere: if you're behind a firewall you have to port forward the correct port to the machine
[05:00] <Darkmystere> I turned it off
[05:00] <dehspehl> cafuego: eshaase: Opera, that is
[05:00] <Darkmystere> the Firewall
[05:00] <sdfowes> does linux only have 1 driver for ide controllers? i find that highly unlikely.
[05:00] <cafuego> dehspehl: Gtk wasn't anywhere near as useful on Windows back then, I expect.
[05:00] <eshaase> cafuego: well i use gnome, will intalling the kde libs be sufficient?
[05:00] <cafuego> sdfowes: No, it has lots.
[05:00] <Scunizi> Darkmystere: in the router?
[05:00] <misslecommander> anony: i know of things to do in windows to re-map keys, but i dont know about linux. i am sure there is a way, but such a small issue, i wouldnt worry about it
[05:00] <crwlr> bazhang: shutting the desktop down now.  gonna try the safemode deal
[05:00] <Darkmystere> Yea
[05:00] <cafuego> eshaase: The control center, and whatever depends that needs.
[05:00] <sdfowes> cafuego, very helpful. how many does ubuntu have? 1?
[05:00] <misslecommander> re-mapping is not fun
[05:00] <bazhang> crwlr: okay
[05:01] <chris449> grep: /etc/default/locale no such directory
[05:01] <crwlr> bazhang: do you have aim or msn?
[05:01] <CppIsWeird> can anyone tell me how to confiure my wireless via command line, so far ive managed to set my wireless interfaces IP, and ive given iwconfig my router essid and key, how come nothings happening?
[05:01] <anony> missilecommander: well, i figured if i'm having trouble, at least one other person is having the same problem, and i use it quite regularly
[05:01] <cafuego> sdfowes: www.kernel.org -> browse the ide source tree and check. probably a few hundred I imagine.
[05:01] <Darkmystere> Im Lost lol is it the Ip i set?
[05:01] <dehspehl> kde's mapping system is a little handier than manual X key map configurations
[05:01] <patogen> CppIsWeird: Maybe you need to use dhcp? dhclient does the trick then
[05:01] <chris449> Onyx: probably a good time to mention i'm using kubuntu install disk :$ and i tried that kdm instead of gdm
[05:01] <bazhang> crwlr: best to do it in channel; that way everyone can benefit :}
[05:01] <misslecommander> anony: i noticed it, but it doesnt bother me. so i never really got into it
[05:01] <cafuego> sdfowes: Let me put it this way; I'd be surprised if you managed to find an ide controller that's not supported.
[05:01] <Onyx> chris449: How did that work?
[05:02] <xen_> JoeyJoJoe heres my new fstab entry, its in the bottom: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52977/
[05:02] <chris449> Onyx: grep: /etc/default/locale no such directory
[05:02] <crwlr> kk
[05:02] <flamsmark> what's the right way to install the root inside an encrypted volume on a raid5 array, with the alternate install disk?
[05:02] <vincent_> Hello All
[05:02] <anony> missilecommander: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys
[05:02] <chris449> Onyx: then it says something like starting k graphical display manager
[05:02] <sdfowes> cafuego, fantastic. the paticular one that ubuntu is using for my contoller is giving me massive fits.
[05:02] <crwlr> bazhang: recovery mode, correct?
[05:02] <chris449> Onyx: then a prompt again
[05:02] <xen_> JoeyJoeJo that looks ok no?
[05:02] <bazhang> crwlr: that should do it yes
[05:02] <Onyx> chris449: login prompt, or terminal?
[05:02] <chris449> Onyx: terminal
[05:02] <CppIsWeird> thx patogen
[05:02] <crwlr> bazhang: okay, im to the prompt.  what would you like me to check?
[05:03] <Onyx> hrm.... but startx brings up the basic xorg, right?
[05:03] <JoeyJoeJo> xen_: looks good to me.. have you tested it out yet?
[05:03] <misslecommander> anony: one alternative ? maybe choose different keyboard in System/Preferences/Keyboard/Layout. check to see its identified
[05:03] <Darkmystere> Well im totoally lost im trying to get my friend to test it for me but idk what To give him to access it..
[05:03] <cafuego> sdfowes: It's probably using libata, the new driver model based on scsi etc. You'll be wanting to google a way to make it use the OLD style driver instead.
[05:03] <Darkmystere> Also idk where to put files >.>
[05:03] <xen_> JoeyJoeJo just about to reboot to see how it go's, brb
[05:03] <JoeyJoeJo> ok
[05:03] <misslecommander> anony: dont make your OS unfunctional
[05:03] <Scunizi> Darkmystere: no.. the machine your on has an ip.  If you're behind a firewall it starts with 192.xxx.x.x.  If you're trying to get to the ftp server from outside the lan then you use the primary ip address of your network give by your isp. With a router installed you have to access the router configuation  and setup port forwarding for the correct  port  to your ftp server.
[05:04] <bazhang> crwlr: no x server? just black screen?
[05:04] <chris449> Onyx: yes it does
[05:04] <anony> missilecommander: System>Prefs>Keyboard Shortcuts, then assign keys. Works a charm.
[05:04] <venger> I'm wanting to dual boot windows/ubuntu.  windows is already installed on a hardware raid mirror.  i have a non-raid disk with upartitioned space to use for ubuntu.  I'm concerned about running lilo to update the mbr in this situation since raid is involved.  it seems easy to muck things up.  Is there anything i need to do specifically for this type of config? like for example install the boot bloc
[05:04] <venger> k to each member of the raid?
[05:04] <Darkmystere> oh
[05:04] <misslecommander> Darlmystere: did that work for you ?
[05:04] <ppibburr> - made a lvecd from a feisty debootstrap with added freespire packages on a laptop, worked, i put it on a desktop and it worked till the computer fried??
[05:04] <crwlr> bazhang:  just root@ubuntu:
[05:04] <ubuntu> what causes the partitioner to error out every time you try to do it guided
[05:04] <cafuego> sdfowes: I understand that;'s not immediately useful advice, but I have a meeting I need to be at
[05:04] <Onyx> chris449: It's really odd that kdm would fail, then... give me a minute to look some stuff up
[05:04] <sdfowes> cafuego, sweet. kernel keeps hanging then resuming, getting ata timeouts. happens less with media in the cd drive (hdd and cddrive on same channel) and this doesn't happen with free/net/openbsd or windows .seems to be a linux thing
[05:04] <Darkmystere> ok sec
[05:04] <chris449> Onyx: thank you :D
[05:05] <sdfowes> cafuego, much helpful.
[05:05] <dehspehl> kdm usually fails when X fails
[05:05] <bazhang> crwlr: what about startx what errors does it give
[05:05] <cafuego> righto
[05:05] <flamsmark> venger - can't you just ask the installer nicely to install lilo to the disk that you want to install ubuntu on, which isn't part of your raid?
[05:05] <Onyx> dehspehl: Yeah, my thoughts as well.
[05:05] <dehspehl> I don't think I've ever had it be a specifically kdm-related thing, that is
[05:05] <crwlr> bazhang: doin something...
[05:05] <chris449> dephspehl: X seems to be working, the startx script brings up a funny window with the mouse cursor as an x
[05:05] <misslecommander> anony: so you all set with that ?
[05:05] <venger> flamsmark, i could but what is going to boot that disk after a reboot?
[05:05] <bazhang> crwlr: spitting out errors?
[05:05] <crwlr> bazhang: i notice the colors are very off on the screen, gotta be the wrong resolution.  how do i fix it?
[05:06] <chris449> dehspehl: *not window, screen
[05:06] <anony> missilecommander: the buttons still map to the wrong slider, but the other shortcuts are working
[05:06] <mbt> !windows
[05:06] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[05:06] <dehspehl> chris449: well yeah, startx default configuration is pretty darn lame in Ubuntu
[05:06] <geokeratz> rescuecd
[05:06] <dehspehl> chris449: most at least give you twm :P
[05:06] <geokeratz> !rescuecd
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rescuecd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <flamsmark> venger - your bios
[05:06] <misslecommander> !metacity
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about metacity - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <Darkmystere> Ok so its <IP_ADDRESS> its  a friend around the Block hes not connected to my Wireles
[05:06] <chris449> dehspehl: any suggestions?
[05:07] <flamsmark> venger - put that disk before the raid array in the boot order, and voila
[05:07] <geokeratz> !sysrcd
[05:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sysrcd - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[05:07] <bazhang> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg crwlr could do; give it a try in the terminal
[05:07] <dehspehl> chris449: pastebin the error/log file
[05:07] <anony> missilecommander: AHA! System>Prefs>Sound Preferences and choose your sliders
[05:07] <venger> flamsmark, and update the bios each time i want to switch?