[03:38] <soreau> o0Chris0o: compiz most likely
[03:38] <Hamled> okay, thank you
[03:38] <eternaljoy> Im creating a boot USB stick, and Ubuntu asks me if I want to use 128MB for documents etc...   what happens if I reduce this to 50MB? What happens to the 78MB?
[03:38] <Cpudan80> aranyik: you need to tell the installer where to write the MBR to, I believe thats an option in there somewhere (an advanced option)
[03:38] <codeman__> hey im back who was said om me
[03:39] <tritium> eternaljoy: nothing.  It goes unused.
[03:39] <codeman__> pm me
[03:39] <o0Chris0o> soreau: hmm thanks, I don't see any options, but thanks :D
[03:39] <eternaljoy> tritium: wiull it help with "running out of space" messages?
[03:39] <DasEi> jlevy: if it worked before,just try a reinstall, with more thenonedevice,I always had to configure the app to which to use
[03:39] <aranyik> Cpudan80, ohh! yes I know that option...I think I just totaly forgot...or maybe i tried...but it worth to try ?again?
[03:39] <wrektjet> hey im trying xp on virtualbox... any ideas why the cd/rom drive doesnt function? i have the host device selected
[03:39] <Droopsta915> When adding the user to a group do I use the login name or the my full name?
[03:39] <aranyik> Cpudan80, thanks, I try and come back after
[03:39] <codeman__> bios ?
[03:39] <eternaljoy> wrektjet: ask in #vbox
[03:39] <tritium> eternaljoy: in what context?  When do you see that message?
[03:39] <lstarnes> Droopsta915: login name
[03:39] <quentusrex> thanks Dreamglider that fixed it. I can't believe I didn't think of that.
[03:39] <Cpudan80> aranyik: if that doesn't work - mount it using a VM
[03:40] <eternaljoy> tritium: when it tried to load last time
[03:40] <jlevy> DasEi: Looks like this started for some users upon kernel upgrade.  maybe i did that and don't remember...lol
[03:40] <psychic> anyone know a good channel to get a movie from?
[03:40] <tritium> eternaljoy: that option for the bootable USB stick is to allow you to have a persistent home directory on the stick.
[03:40] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: change it in the settings so it detects your CD drive in the guest, and this is virtualbox suppour  #vbox
[03:40] <Cpudan80> aranyik: ex. install virtual box on the laptop - point the VM to the USB thing as the HDD
[03:40] <Dreamglider> quentusrex: np dude
[03:40] <tritium> eternaljoy: "it" being the USB stick?
[03:40] <eternaljoy> tritium: so lowing the 128MB wont help with "running of space" messages?
[03:40] <lrojas> when i try out a php file on the server i have, instead of parsing the phpo code is getting served as text file
[03:40] <eternaljoy> tritium: yea
[03:40] <Droopsta915> thanks everyone
[03:40] <DasEi> jlevy: just try tvtime,a small app with good quality, easy to configure
[03:40] <wrektjet> ok thnx ill try that chanel
[03:41] <wrektjet> #vbox
[03:41] <jlevy> DasEi: I'll give it a shot. thanks!
[03:41] <tritium> eternaljoy: no, it would not
[03:41] <codeman__> asking agine coomputer power died how to run a .exe bios update on xubuntu
[03:41] <eternaljoy> tritium: that sucks
[03:41] <DasEi> codeman__: pmme,as said above
[03:41] <Dreamglider> codeman__:  you cant do that
[03:42] <aranyik> Cpudan80, I tried that already and got plenty of weird errors.. anyway..lets go back to method #1
[03:42] <aranyik> BRB
[03:42] <Cpudan80> aranyik: yeah the VM thing ... not an easy option
[03:42] <Dreamglider> codeman__:  you will have to put the bios update on a floppy and boot from it (that's the usual way it's done) but you should read the manufacture manual on bios updates.
[03:43] <iainm> hey folks.
[03:43] <iainm> what's the polite way to disagree with a "fix released" status on a bug report?
[03:43] <iainm> in launchpad
[03:43] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: yep good luck
[03:43] <aranyik> Cpudan80, oh wait...some very important stuf...if I run the installer with my laptop...
[03:43] <Cpudan80> ...
[03:44] <aranyik> Cpudan80, it will configure Xubuntu for a recent laptop and then in my Pentium
[03:44] <aranyik> Cpudan80, 233Mhz.maybe its gonna ,..freeze or somth
[03:44] <Cpudan80> god lord
[03:44] <Cpudan80> good lord*
[03:44] <Cpudan80> It probably wouldnt even run
[03:45] <Cpudan80> how does a computer not have a CD-ROM drive?
[03:45] <nds> my compter takes 8 minutes to boot to the login screen, any ideas?
[03:45] <Cpudan80> nds: feed the mice some caffeine?
[03:45] <nds> >.<
[03:45] <nds> its a fast pc
[03:45] <Dreamglider> nds: my C64 has about half a second to boot ;P
[03:45] <nds> its jsut sloooooow to boot up
[03:46] <PhotoJim> nds: how much ram?
[03:46] <nds> 1.2 gb
[03:46] <Cpudan80> nds: It might be waiting on the network or something
[03:46] <nds> no
[03:46] <nds> i dont think so
[03:46] <Cpudan80> 1.2 GB of RAM /
[03:46] <Cpudan80> weird amount
[03:46] <nds> a gb and a 256
[03:46] <nds> i upgraded from 2*256
[03:47] <Cpudan80> yeah I understand that .... normally you dont mismatch sizes like that
[03:47] <tritium> !enter | nds
[03:47] <PhotoJim> nds: try booting up in recovery mode and watch the kernel messages.  see where it pauses.  that'll give you some info, most likely.
[03:47] <nds> normally yes, but is the network making my boot lsow?
[03:47] <nds> i did
[03:47] <PhotoJim> nds: and that'd be 1.25 GB :)
[03:47] <Cpudan80> If your DHCP server is being stupid it might hold the boot yeah
[03:47] <Droopsta915> I want to try Ubuntu Studio. Is that an actual OS all on its own or do I install it within Ubuntu?
[03:47] <Cpudan80> nds: Part of the bootup is to get an IP address for your machine
[03:47] <nds> photojim: yes, my wireless sucks
[03:48] <Dreamglider> nds: i'd tak out the 256Mb ram block if it is slower that the 1gb block
[03:48] <Cpudan80> Droopsta915: Its a package you can grab I think
[03:48] <nds> its a one mb line, and my father refuses to run a cable
[03:48] <PhotoJim> nds: use wire when possible.  laptops like wire. :)
[03:48] <jlevy> DasEi: got it working!  thanks for pointing me to dmesg
[03:48] <Cpudan80> !ubuntu-studio | Droopsta915
[03:48] <nds> dreamglider: same speed
[03:48] <jlevy> DasEi: i'll still checkout tvtime though
[03:48] <aranyik> Cpudan80, what do you think ??
[03:48] <nds> my wireless just hates me >.<
[03:48] <Dreamglider> nds: Allright
[03:48] <Cpudan80> Droopsta915: sorry wrong link
[03:48] <Cpudan80> !info ubuntu-studio | Droopsta915
[03:49] <Cpudan80> :-(
[03:49] <Cpudan80> Droopsta915: Guess it's its own thing
[03:49]  * eseven73 thought ubutnu-studio was a distro?
[03:49] <eseven73> ubuntu-studio*
[03:49] <Cpudan80> aranyik: I think you should use that computer as a brick
[03:49] <ANTRat> !info ubuntustudio-desktop
[03:49] <nds> so ive been hving lots of wireless problems
[03:49] <xSlack> What would a command be to empty trash
[03:49] <Cpudan80> wooo ANTRat wins
[03:49] <nds> anyone have some tips for getting my dad to run a line?
[03:49] <eseven73> +1 for ANTRat
[03:49] <ANTRat> no prob
[03:49] <DasEi>  !yay| jlevy
[03:50] <Cpudan80> nds: do it yourself, not very hard
[03:50] <nds> i cant
[03:50] <Cpudan80> run it near some existing wire - like a phone or something
[03:50] <Cpudan80> running near power might not be a good idea
[03:50] <nds> cpudan: the router is across the hall, and he doesnt want me to
[03:50] <aranyik> HAHAHA
[03:50] <Cpudan80> is it a 1 story house?
[03:50] <nds> because well have a wire across the hardwood
[03:50] <nds> yes
[03:50] <aranyik> ok BRB
[03:51] <Cpudan80> run it through the attic
[03:51] <Mobius_thought> what's the key to keeping an init.d script from halting the startup process (i.e. not getting to other startup scripts until the earlier program is shut down?)
[03:51] <nds> its a one story
[03:51] <nds> no attic
[03:51] <PhotoJim> I run mine through the basement.
[03:51] <nds> no basement
[03:51] <Cpudan80> ok crawl space
[03:51] <PhotoJim> usually you can run it up alongside heating registers.
[03:51] <nds> yeah, thats two feet tall
[03:51] <Cpudan80> you mean you're on a slab of concrete with no attic and no crawl space ?
[03:51] <nds> and its winter out
[03:51] <nds> cpudan: pretty much
[03:51] <Cpudan80> oh you do have a crawl space
[03:51] <DasEi> jlevy: hwinfo is also more detailled then lspci/lsusb
[03:51] <Cpudan80> a 2ft gap is plenty big - crawl in there and run the wire
[03:52] <nds> yes, its just boxed in by siding
[03:52] <nds> i would have to rip off the siding
[03:52] <Cpudan80> nonsense
[03:52] <nds> yes
[03:52] <Cpudan80> I believe they are required to have an opening
[03:52] <jlevy> DasEi: I'll keep that in mind.  thanks again
[03:52] <nds> it makes sense for my dad >.<
[03:52] <nds> not when you put up the siding yourself
[03:52] <nds> >.<
[03:52] <Cpudan80> How do you not have an attic?
[03:53] <nds> its a mobile home
[03:53] <rww_> !ot
[03:53] <Cpudan80> oh I see ...
[03:53] <nds> see my dillema?
[03:53] <nds> and my dad wont get a better wireless card
[03:53] <nds> so im on a 24 mb/s card, connected to a crap router
[03:53] <Cpudan80> get a job, buy one
[03:53] <nds> im 14
[03:53] <nds> >.<
[03:54] <Cpudan80> mow lawns
[03:54] <nds> cant in the winter
[03:54] <nds> and no snow
[03:54] <nds> ive been trying
[03:54] <rww_> Cpudan80, nds: Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic or PM.
[03:54] <L3dPlatedLinux> was wondering I have a old pc p4 1.8 512ram 20gb hd which distro other then ubuntu cause thats what I am running here on this pc should I run?
[03:54] <Cpudan80> nds: First, stop using enter as punctuation. Second, be creative about this. Third, offtopic
[03:55] <Dreamglider> what ?
[03:55] <Cpudan80> L3dPlatedLinux: Thats really a personal choice based on what you want - if you like ubuntu on "this pc" - why not use it on the old pc?
[03:55] <Mobius_thought> l3d- what do you want to do with it?
[03:55] <tritium> nds: please watch your use of the enter key in place of punctuation
[03:55] <DasEi>  !zip > codeman__
[03:55] <wanna_learn_more> hi
[03:55] <eseven73> L3dPlatedLinux: is it really slow on Ubuntu? If so try Xubuntu or fluxbox or maybe LXDE
[03:55] <Cpudan80> The closest thing to ubuntu that is not an ubuntu fork is debian L3dPlatedLinux
[03:55] <wanna_learn_more> i got crc error then system halted on my ubuntu
[03:55] <wanna_learn_more> how to solve it?
[03:55] <wanna_learn_more> !crc
[03:56] <L3dPlatedLinux> ads turn a crap router in to a great one with dd-wrt
[03:56] <forceflow> wanna_learn_more: check the system log for more information
[03:56] <L3dPlatedLinux>  What about linuxmint?
[03:56] <eseven73> thats not supported
[03:56] <Montreaux> need some hel pls
[03:56] <gbear14275> hello... need help for a windows friend... he's using putty to connect to a debian server I have running... I'm new to linux and don't know the correct commands but is there a way to "download" a directory through bash? (and yes I know this is an ubuntu channel)
[03:56] <Mobius_thought> linux mint is pretty great, but it's a live CD, why bother installing it?
[03:56] <Cpudan80> I think thats an ubuntu fork L3dPlatedLinux
[03:56] <Dreamglider> Montreaux: !asl
[03:56] <Dreamglider> Montreaux: !ask
[03:57] <wanna_learn_more> forceflow:how to go to system log?
[03:57] <Dreamglider> umm
[03:57] <wanna_learn_more> forceflow:it cant booting at all
[03:57] <Flannel> !mintsupport | L3dPlatedLinux
[03:57] <PhotoJim> gbear14275: winscp is a Windows client that transfers files by scp which uses ssh.
[03:57] <Cpudan80> gbear14275: you should use sftp
[03:57] <wanna_learn_more> !linuxmint
[03:57] <Montreaux> thanks i need to update Evolution to th e2.26 version but dont know how to do it
[03:57] <Cpudan80> or scp, whichever you prefer - I like SFTP
[03:57] <L3dPlatedLinux> I do have xubuntu8.10 guess I could go with that
[03:58] <X-Seti> darn, upgrading to jaunty, i have sound issues, no sound at all, menu bar sound app doesnt work either ?
[03:58] <Montreaux> i downloaded a bunch of files but have no idea how to put the together
[03:58] <Cpudan80> gbear14275: Filezilla has a windows client that does SFTP
[03:58] <wanna_learn_more> i got crc error then system halted on my ubuntu kernel 2.6.27-11 server
[03:58] <eseven73> yes sftp is the only way to fly :)   .........securely
[03:58] <|PsyTox|> ok, so im looking for a full mixing panel/ effects rack/ sound shaper for ubuntu audio output..something simular to KX drivers on windows for emu101k cards....like parametric eq, vitializer spatalizer etc.....anybody know where i might find such a thing?
[03:58] <PhotoJim> X-Seti: there's a specific channel for Jaunty... #ubuntu+1
[03:59] <X-Seti> thanks
[03:59] <DasEi>  wanna_learn_more: hd error ?
[03:59] <Montreaux> hello
[03:59] <wanna_learn_more> dasei:i dont know.but this morning it works well
[03:59] <Jonanin> What happens when the Ubuntu names get all the way to Z?
[03:59] <steve50> hello room
[04:00] <Mobius_thought> what's the key to keeping an init.d script for APP X from halting the startup process (i.e. not getting to other startup scripts until APP X is shut down?)
[04:00] <wanna_learn_more> now i am trying memtes
[04:00] <|PsyTox|> Aanerxoic Aanteater?
[04:00] <wanna_learn_more> memtest
[04:00] <Cpudan80> it goes back to A Jonanin
[04:00] <PhotoJim> Jonanin: I am guessing they'll wrap around.  they've already had two H names after all.
[04:00] <Jonanin> I hope PsyTox is right :D
[04:00] <Cpudan80> long way to go before we get there
[04:00] <Cpudan80> 16 more releases = ~8 years
[04:00] <neal_s> My system shuts down fine.
[04:00] <neal_s> But it hangs on restart
[04:01] <millertime_018_> hey i can't join the python channel!
[04:01] <Montreaux> Need some help with evolution
[04:01] <neal_s> It also hangs on hibernate or suspend.
[04:01] <DasEi> wanna_learn_more: tocheckthat,boot a live cd,DON'T mount the hd, in terminal run :sudo e2fsck -p /dev/yourHardrive (sudo fdisk -l shows your partis)
[04:01] <Turtle_> is a masters in IT good for Unix basd jobs?
[04:01] <L3dPlatedLinux> well in fear of sounding like a fool I will ignore that fear and ask any way what do you mean when you say ubuntu fork?
[04:01] <Cpudan80> millertime_018_: identify yourself (/msg nickserv help identify)
[04:01] <Cpudan80> L3dPlatedLinux: something that is based off of ubuntu (ubuntu is based off of debian)
[04:01] <PhotoJim> L3dPlatedLinux: Forks are projects that diverge from other projects and become separate.  Ubuntu is a fork of Debian.  Debian and Ubuntu are separate, but once, Ubuntu used a Debian starting point.
[04:01] <wanna_learn_more> dasei:i dont have live cd
[04:02] <wanna_learn_more> dasei:how about dual booting with other linux?
[04:02] <millertime_018_> cpudan80: how do i do that?
[04:02] <DasEi>  wanna_learn_more: good way, same advice
[04:02] <millertime_018_> cpudan80 ok i got it
[04:02] <|PsyTox|> so nobody know of a good audio shaper mix board for ubuntu?
[04:02] <Cpudan80> millertime_018_: well if you read the nickserv help ... you would know - you have to have a registered nick ....
[04:03] <neal_s> Laptop shuts down fine, hangs on restart/suspend/hibernate. Running Intrepid. Anyone?
[04:03] <DasEi> |PsyTox|: you ask about an equi ?
[04:03] <Mobius_thought> PsyTox- I just don't mess with that stuff.. What you might do is do a search for Ubuntu Studio, and take a look at the various packages that it comes with
[04:03] <Mobius_thought> I would think as much stuff as it came with, some of it oughtta do what you want, and you cuold just add those into your ubuntu
[04:04] <|PsyTox|> DasEi, and EQ board kinda thing yeah, parametric kinda thing would be better but basic eq is a start
[04:04] <|PsyTox|> ohh, thaznks, ill have a look
[04:04] <gbear14275> wow... open office has a hard time sorting :-/.... any ideas on how to sort a field while maintaining the row integrity?
[04:05] <joetheodd> Anyone know why Ubuntu sometimes randomly clicks when I mouse over stuff?
[04:05] <|PsyTox|> i was rather spoiled with KX drivers in win...but i couldnt bear to run winders for that...
[04:05] <DasEi> |PsyTox|: mind Mobius, I serched for that a few days, and there somesolutions,but nonative deb's oreasyto compile tarballs, what there is are some apps bringing their own features, but Linux itself away from specialized distros really lack that
[04:06] <|PsyTox|> dont mind compileing, after dealing with cacti and some really strange asterisk installs im pretty comfy there
[04:07] <codeman__> are there other servers to chat on other ubuntu
[04:08] <xerxeslins> hello. Can i run Ubuntu with 320MB RAM? (sorry my english)
[04:08] <eseven73> codeman__: whats wrong with this one?
[04:08] <wrektjet> anyone know of a good guide to dualboot windows AFTER ubuntu is already installed? the info on the community forum is a lil scarce
[04:08] <sebsebseb> xerxeslins: yes you can
[04:08] <wrektjet> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[04:08] <|PsyTox|> yes, but id suggest ya have a look at Xubuntu
[04:08] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: Virtual machine to dual boot?????
[04:09] <wrektjet> no im canning virtual machine
[04:09] <DasEi> http://sourceforge.net/projects/rteq , |PsyTox|
[04:09] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: getting rid of the vm idea why?
[04:09] <|PsyTox|> xerxeslins,   yes, but id suggest ya have a look at Xubuntu, its DE is xfce, much more lightwieght than gnome or kde but still quite robust and friendly
[04:09] <sebsebseb> xerxeslins: do a 512MB or so swap partition as well :)
[04:09] <wrektjet> cant get the cdrom workin properly and i want to insatll all the drivers that came with myu mobo
[04:09] <Datz> Hi, I have two Xorg processes, this is not normal?
[04:09] <sebsebseb> |PsyTox|: Gnome can even work quite well on 256mb RAM
[04:09] <xerxeslins> thank very much !
[04:10] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: get the  guest additions for the  XP VM
[04:10] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: and drivers such as?
[04:10] <DasEi> |PsyTox|: I struggled with that 2 days, and afterwards  3 to get rid of the mess again, nice excursion to trace and dpkg
[04:11] <|PsyTox|> sebastien, , yes, it can, but if your limited do ya want to devote your tiny amount of ram to loading gnome, or more apps? i used xfce on my lappy for quite a while, its very comfortable
[04:11] <Mobius_thought> please can someone advise me with init.d problems?
[04:11] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: why do you want all the drivers anyway?
[04:11] <|PsyTox|> DasEi, rtEq ya meen?
[04:11] <wrektjet> raid, chipsets, audio energysaver app
[04:11] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: Virtualbox ahs it's own virtual drivers of things, so you don't need your actsaul drivers probably
[04:11] <DasEi> realplayer offers an extended equi, amarok is enough for waht I'm doing, yes rtEq, |PsyTox|
[04:11] <wolter> could you, sebsebseb
[04:12] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: you should find out more about virtualbox, don't give up on the idea :)
[04:12] <|PsyTox|> ive never needed drivers for vbox windows....its always just worked, and quite well
[04:12] <wrektjet> ok :)
[04:12] <wrektjet> finnnnnnnnnne
[04:12] <wrektjet> lol
[04:12] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: if  your going to play 3D Windows games, then yes you need a dual boot for now, but  Codeweavers Crossover  Games is working on Linux suppourt
[04:12] <Mobius_thought> *sigh* init.d is so basic I know it's only my own ignorance stopping me... can I set an init.d script to run in a secondary session?
[04:12] <sebsebseb> wolter: could I what?
[04:12] <sebsebseb> wolter: oh that
[04:13] <|PsyTox|> DasEi,  was kinda looking for something to remap some of the ports, swap the front and back outputs, since the rear output has a cleaner output, control the freq range that goes out each port, etc...mabey asking alot.... thanks for pointing me at some options though
[04:13] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: also in your situation it may be worth finding out about VMware as well  #vmware
[04:13] <Mobius_thought> I have two server programs that want to display status, Ventrilo, and Rtorrent. How can I autostart both of these without one waiting for the other to shut down?
[04:13] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: Virtualbox also has the advantage of being able to to use VMware disk images :)
[04:14] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: booting up into a psyicall install of Windows,  should only be with a proper good reason :)
[04:14] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: e.g.  a 3D windows game
[04:14] <wrektjet> you must really dislike bill gates :)
[04:14] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: altough that's not really a good reason to use a computer
[04:14] <DasEi> |PsyTox|:alsamixergui can handle the different output's , but won't filter the frequs, though allowing f.e. multichannel audio as common cards provide
[04:15] <|PsyTox|> portal. spore, halflife, etc all work quite well in wine actually
[04:15] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: no  I just want Desktop Linux to have more market share
[04:15] <Mobius_thought> yeah wine 1 really lives up to the wait
[04:15] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: and Bill Gates no longer works for Microsoft and that's been quite  awhile now
[04:15] <DasEi> |PsyTox|:nothing for this channel,but mad dogs prefer active crossovers anyway,lol
[04:15] <wrektjet> quick question: is there a way to sort of undio the cghanges u did in a sessiion
[04:16] <eseven73> he's still very much apart of Microsoft though
[04:16] <|PsyTox|> DasEi, heh, i just got spoiled with being able to do all that with KX in win...but theres not much that would push me back to win
[04:16] <DasEi>  !wine
[04:16] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: I think a lot of the more experiened Linux users will agree with me 100% on this one, but this is how things should be when it comes to  programs  and Windows and Linux.   1. Use stuff that is natively made for Linux, 2. if there is no native version try  Wine and even the commercial versions of Wine.  3.  no luck  virtual machine  4.  still no luck fine boot up a psyical  install of WIndows and use that
[04:17] <gsp2009> hello all... has anyone seen a bug where things are way too fast (system clock, can't type because of multiple keystrokes, etc.) googled with no relevant results. 8.04 was working fine until yesterday. anyone have any ideas?
[04:17] <DasEi> |PsyTox|:or if it really matters to toyou,run a vm
[04:17] <sebsebseb> wrektjet: you can also get a lot of stuff working well in Wine or it's commercial versions, if you know what your doing
[04:18] <|PsyTox|> well... i havent been able to get the KX drivers to run in vbox because KX needs more direct access to the emu101k chip and vbox seems to use an alsa driver kinda thing
[04:18] <|PsyTox|> butabout to try a different route
[04:18] <kindofabuzz> weird problem here. cannot connect to my deluge daemon running on my server. so i ssh into the box to make sure it's running. allgood. then i try to ping my server, no go. so i can ssh but not ping it. what could be the problem?
[04:19] <DasEi> |PsyTox|:or use a specialized distro, like studio or mint ? or...)
[04:19] <jknight> hello everyone
[04:19] <wanna_learn_more> dasei:/dev/hdc1: clean, 47963/243360 files, 352421/971924 blocks
[04:19] <jknight> having some issues with a laptop that i'm trying to recover files off of with crunchbag
[04:19] <Dreamglider> i need help with bluetooth, i cant connect to my phones, i'd allso like to controll the mouse with my phone.
[04:19] <jknight> crunchbang*
[04:19] <|PsyTox|> DasEi,  wieghing my options, i already booted Fedora to the curb due to unrelated issues, not sure i have time to go a totally different direction
[04:20] <|PsyTox|> although yeah
[04:20] <DasEi> wanna_learn_more: did you try a reboot on that (checked drive) ?
[04:20] <kindofabuzz> OpenGEU ftw =)
[04:20] <wrektjet> i just removed a bunch of packages i want back. i didnt look closely at teh synaptic listing when i was installing simple-ccsm to try to get compiz working and now i dont have nautilus, add/remove among others. i could just do apt-ghet for them allk but is tehre a way to restore them otherwise?
[04:20] <wolter> how do i know which gspca module my webcam uses?
[04:20] <|PsyTox|> well, not totally different
[04:20] <|PsyTox|> heh,
[04:20] <kindofabuzz> wrektjet, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:20] <jknight> windows failed and we think that the partition with all of the information is damaged, and the errors are showing us that this is likely true. Any suggestions on getting to the files or is it broken?
[04:21] <chyea> whenever you do something like: vi files.*
[04:21] <chyea> and it opens multiple files
[04:21] <chyea> how do you go to the next one
[04:21] <wanna_learn_more> dasei:now i am trying
[04:21] <wrektjet> kindofabuzz are u sure about that
[04:21] <Bruce> how can i list process but pause so i can see them all? the screen fills up too fast
[04:22] <kindofabuzz> wrektjet, that will install the default pakages from when you first installed
[04:22] <eseven73> add a |less
[04:22] <zenlunatic> Bruce probably redirect to a file
[04:22] <eseven73> Bruce so like,,, ls -a | less
[04:22] <wrektjet> kindofabuzz,  will it leave the other packages i installed though since then
[04:22] <eseven73> then press enter a lot
[04:22] <eseven73> or pgdown maybe
[04:22] <wanna_learn_more> dasei:its still crc error
[04:22] <wanna_learn_more> any suggestion?
[04:23] <DasEi> jknight: is it a large drive ?
[04:23] <kindofabuzz> wrektjet, yeah
[04:23] <DasEi> wanna_learn_more: can boot safemode ?
[04:23] <wrektjet> well i did it shall share with u momentsarily
[04:23] <wanna_learn_more> dasei:trying
[04:23] <Droopsta915> I need to reboot my system, what is the command?
[04:24] <wrektjet> ctrl at backspace backspace i think
[04:24] <DasEi> Droopsta915:sudo reboot
[04:24] <zenlunatic> Droopsta915: init 6
[04:24] <jknight> DasEi: 50.5gb... don't think that counts as large
[04:24] <wanna_learn_more> dasei:crc errors too
[04:24] <eseven73> wrektjet: that only shuts down X
[04:24] <Droopsta915> Ahhh.. the mysterious reboot with a little bit of sudo. thanks
[04:24] <wrektjet> oh just the gui?
[04:24] <eseven73> ya
[04:24] <wrektjet> whoops sorry
[04:24] <DasEi>  jknight: if possible,I#d first do a backupwith dd on an external driveand then try poking around
[04:25] <wrektjet> i prob should stick to asking questions :)
[04:25] <kindofabuzz> sudo shutdown -r now = reboot
[04:25] <jknight> I£d?
[04:25] <jknight> er
[04:25] <whou> Hello, can anyone tell me whether its possible to install ubuntu without burning the iso to a CD -but- "install" the iso on a hard disk and make GRUB see it there?
[04:25] <jknight> british keyboard :x
[04:25] <sebsebseb> whou: that could be done,  by making a CDFS partition I think, but that's complacated
[04:25] <sebsebseb> !install
[04:25] <eseven73> hehe wrektjet same here, i rarely answer anything I just like to learn from everyone as im still kind of noob yet :D
[04:26] <zenlunatic> whou: i believe the dd command might be able to do this.  no expert here though
[04:26] <wanna_learn_more> dasei:any suggestion again?
[04:26] <jknight> DasEi: my friend understands what you mean
[04:26] <DasEi> wanna_learn_more: boot another kernel ?
[04:26] <jknight> we'll give that a try thank you
[04:26] <wanna_learn_more> dasei:still do the same
[04:26] <|PsyTox|> DasEi, your pointing me to Ubuntu studio has made me aware of Jack and jhack rack, i think i could be on to something , thanks
[04:26] <wanna_learn_more> dasei:i have 3 kernel here,2.6.27-7 generic/server and 2.6.27-11 server
[04:27] <wanna_learn_more> dasei:or its because grub error?
[04:27] <DasEi> wanna_learn_more: just another
[04:27] <kindofabuzz> anyone tried OpenGEU yet? very nice i must say
[04:27] <whou> zenlunatic: thanks :)
[04:27] <wanna_learn_more> dasei:just another u mean ??
[04:27] <eseven73> kindofabuzz: what is it?
[04:27] <whou> sebsebseb: thanks :)
[04:27] <kindofabuzz> eseven73, Ubuntu 8.10 using e17
[04:27] <wanna_learn_more> i can mount it to my secondary hardisk
[04:27] <DasEi> wanna_learn_more: is what Iwant to find out , just try another kernel
[04:27] <eseven73> oh, yea e17 isnt too bad
[04:27] <wanna_learn_more> dasei:another kernel still do the same error mr dasei
[04:28] <kindofabuzz> eseven73, yeah it's very well done in OpenGEU
[04:28] <whou> !automate | whou
[04:29] <bl4hblahBAH> I'm tired of the way my ubuntu gnome desktop looks
[04:29] <bl4hblahBAH> any suggestions?
[04:29] <eseven73> !themes
[04:29] <kindofabuzz> any clues on why i can SSH to my server but cannot ping my server?
[04:29] <DasEi> wanna_learn_more: then boot the other ,living sys again, chroot into the faulty one, check the logs, check dmesg, try an update/grade , might be initramfs ; crc mostly is a file no more suiting it's form
[04:29] <gsp2009> does anyone here remember turbo buttons on old 386sx? that is what my 8.04 is doing (as if turbo was pressed). anyone know what could be causing this?
[04:30] <kindofabuzz> go go turbo mode!!! *scwiiiiing*
[04:30] <DasEi> lol^^
[04:30] <wanna_learn_more> dasei:how to chroot?
[04:30] <neal_s> xerxeslins: Try Xubuntu.
[04:31] <wanna_learn_more> dasei:i mount it to /root/root2
[04:31] <wanna_learn_more> dasei:then i tried chroot /root/root2
[04:31] <wanna_learn_more> dasei:failed
[04:31] <DasEi> wanna_learn_more: you look up root parti of the broken sys, then : sudo chroot /dev/brokensysblaX
[04:32] <DasEi> wanna_learn_more: sudo fdisk -l                     shows your partis
[04:32] <rage> Does anyone have a shell command that will trim whitespace... BUT will not buffer the entire input before producing output
[04:32] <rage> ?
[04:32] <wanna_learn_more> dasei:already
[04:33] <wanna_learn_more> dasei:i have no name@krismannto_wireless
[04:33] <millertime_018> hey how do i log in?
[04:34] <rww> millertime_018: to what?
[04:35] <millertime_018> to be able to join #python
[04:35] <rww> !register | millertime_018
[04:35] <wrektjet> so guess what i managed to do
[04:35] <DasEi> wanna_learn_more:sudo fdisk -l             <<shows you something like /dev/sdb1   for the broken /,  use that identifier for chroot
[04:35] <wrektjet> i somehow murdered the desktop
[04:36] <wrektjet> when ubuntu starts up i just get this beige screen
[04:36] <wrektjet> luckily i knew the command for opening a terminal
[04:37] <chaines> How's it going, guys?
[04:37] <usser> rage, i dont think bash can do unbuffered input
[04:38] <wrektjet> so ummmmmmmm is this beige blank screen healthy? and does anyone know how to get my old desktop back?
[04:38] <Dreamglider> i need help with bluetooth, i cant see nor connect to my phones.
[04:38] <rage> usser: cat/bash's normal behavour is to buffer a signle line at a time
[04:39] <usser> rage, that is correct. i thought you needed to read character by character, no?
[04:39] <rage> Nope, just line by line
[04:39] <rage> usser: http://pastebin.com/m98c623e
[04:39] <rage> Like that
[04:39] <usser> rage, and discard all white spaces?
[04:39] <rage> Just leading and trailing
[04:40] <rage> similar to trim(); in many scripted languages
[04:40] <the9a3eedi> Hi, I've been trying to get into development. I found that a lot of the packages that come with ubuntu (for example KDE-libs) are out of date, and so I have to compile the latest version from source. If I wanted to install the compiled version, does that mean I'd have to remove the package from dpkg? wont it cause conflicts if I dont?
[04:41] <Makuseru> In grub, when you point it at a drive you use tags like (hd0,2) and such. How do i figure out the location of a particular drive?
[04:41] <wrektjet> so ummm anyone know why my desktop is kaput?
[04:42] <rage> Makuseru: Grub scans drives in order, so hd0,2 would be the first harddisk e.g primary master, second partition
[04:43] <DasEi> Makuseru: sudo fdisk -l shows you ; hd(x,y) counts from 0,  /dev/sdXY from  1, an important factto realize
[04:44] <DasEi> Makuseru: in other words : hd(0,0) = /dev/sda1
[04:45] <usser> Makuseru, also /boot/grub/device.map is helpful
[04:46] <wrektjet> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-session-canberra_0.11-1ubuntu2_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/gnome/autostart/libcanberra-login-sound.desktop', which is also in package libcanberra-gnome
[04:47] <nds> hello, my boot time is exactly 12 minutes, 1 minute to shut down and boot to the point where the screen goes brown and the waitng cursor comes up, 10 to tthe login to load, and 1 more to get all loaded.
[04:47] <nds> In my log i have thhis before a ten minute gap on EVERY restart
[04:47] <nds> Mar 24 22:33:25 brandon-desktop NetworkManager: <debug> [1237955605.905368] nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_2562_drm_i915_card0').
[04:50] <nds> any idea what this is thats causing a ten minute increas in boot time?
[04:50] <nds> oh and my internet is constantly lsing power
[04:51] <eternaljoy> can anyone help me connect a Huawei E160G USB key using Three Wireless broadband to the internet?
[04:52] <Tech-Mike> wut up peps
[04:52] <Tech-Mike> *peeps
[04:53] <o0Chris0o> anyone here use GnoMenu? if you do please query me
[04:54] <chyea> is there a copy file permissions command?
[04:57] <eternaljoy> can anyone help me connect a Huawei E160G USB key using Three Wireless broadband to the internet?
[04:58] <sherry> hello, I'm looking for a GUI to alsamixer that sits in your system tray in window managers like GNOME, XFCE, etc. Any suggestions?
[04:59] <usser> sherry, kmixer or kmix is an actual stand-alone application and not a panel plugin like in gnome or xfce
[04:59] <usser> sherry, its for kde though
[05:00] <sherry> thank you
[05:01] <techqber1> anybody know how to suspend in fluxbox?
[05:08] <mdettweiler> Hi, I'm trying to boot from a Ubuntu LiveCD on a system that has its CD drives installed through a PCIe IDE header and am at my wits' end as to how to make it work. :-|
[05:08] <mdettweiler> Essentially, I'm trying to reinstall a corrupted Windows XP setup (the system is a dualboot), but since XP will of course wipe out GRUB, I'll need to use a LiveCD to restore it. Thus, before installing XP I'm currently trying to verify that I can indeed boot from my LiveCD.
[05:09] <mdettweiler> The problem is, no matter what CD I try--even some CD's that have been verified to work OK with other computers--my computer refuses to boot from it.
[05:09] <rww> mdettweiler: This is a little apropos, but perhaps you could use a live USB system instead of CD?
[05:09] <mdettweiler> @rww: hmm, interesting possibility. however I don't have a spare USB drive that owuld work...
[05:10] <n2diy> mdettweiler: did your cd reader die?
[05:10] <mdettweiler> What really befuddles me is that the BIOS recognizes both of my CD drives just fine. They're both listed on the boot order config page, and the system *is* set to boot from CD first, floppy second, and hard drive next.
[05:11] <mdettweiler> @n2diy: no, it works fine once I've booted up into Ubuntu (from the hard disk). I can mount and read CD's without a problem.
[05:11] <mdettweiler> Floppies do, however, boot fine, so I tried a whole slew of different "universal boot floppy" things.
[05:12] <ubuntu_> hey i totslly messed up my iubuntu
[05:12] <ubuntu_> how can i revert back to original or install again on top?
[05:12] <mdettweiler> ...including "Smart Boot Loader" (maybe the name was slightly different) which seemed to be recommended on the Ubuntu web site in various places. Everywhere I read it says that Smart Boot Loader is supposed to load from CD's easily, but for me it didn't even notice that I had any CD drives!
[05:13] <mdettweiler> which is really confusing, since the BIOS recognizes the drives just fine.
[05:13] <ubuntu_> if i just run the cd and install it in the same partition as the original would that work
[05:13] <eternaljoy> can anyone help me connect a Huawei E160G USB key using Three Wireless broadband to the internet?
[05:14] <b4chip> how can I see the machine configuration from command line?
[05:14] <mdettweiler> @brokemyOS: yeah, that should work. if you want to be extra sure the messed-up system is gone, though, you should delete your partition, then make a new one during install. that should do it.
[05:14] <sei> sup
[05:14] <n2diy> b4chip: lshw will list your hardware.
[05:14] <brokemyOS> fine ok thnx be back soon i hoep
[05:16] <b4chip> many thx n2diy
[05:17] <b4chip> lshw: command not found
[05:17] <mdettweiler> I realize my setup is a little unorthodox--both of my CD drives are running off of a PCIe IDE card since the one IDE header on my mobo is tied up with two hard drives. In retrospect I probably should have bought a PCI IDE card since it would be more widely supported, but... :-)
[05:17] <mdettweiler> but one would think that as long as the BIOS recognizes the drives fine, then it *should* be able to automatically boot a bootable CD loaded into them, right?
[05:18] <mdettweiler> I tried both CD drives--master and slave--and neither worked.
[05:19] <mdettweiler> does anyone know why this might be happening?
[05:20] <dronix> mdettweiler: have you tried using the boot menu?
[05:21] <mdettweiler> @dronix: you mean the grub menu?
[05:21] <n2diy> mdettweiler: are you running more than four ide devices?
[05:21] <dronix> mdettweiler: no, most bios have a specific key that'll let you choose what to boot from
[05:21] <mdettweiler> @n2diy: no, just 4. two on the mobo's ide header, two on the PCIe card.
[05:21] <mdettweiler> @dronix: ah, I get it. No, I don't think my BIOS has that option.
[05:22] <mdettweiler> ...at least I don't see any such option listed on the splash screen.
[05:22] <jeeez> how do i burn an iso image into a thumbdrive?
[05:22] <petafile> Is anyone aware of a text editor that allows you to view one document as 2 columns?  I'd like to be able to look at 2 parts of my code simultaneously.  I love gedit, but to my knowledge it doesn't do that
[05:22] <mdettweiler> then again, my BIOS's splash screen isn't that descriptive anyway...it doesn't even list the key for BIOS setup, which apperently is F1.
[05:22] <b4chip> how can I see what rights are applied to a directory?
[05:22] <dronix> mdettweiler: it might not show on the screen but it should have it,
[05:23] <n2diy> mdettweiler: are the two unsed mobo devices disabled? I would think the they should be, so the remote card can use them?
[05:23] <mdettweiler> @dronix: hmm...interesting. Any suggestions on what keys to try? (this is an intel motherboard, for a core 2 duo)
[05:23] <n2diy> unsed/unused
[05:23] <dronix> b4chip: easiest way is to right-click on the directory and choos permissions tab
[05:23] <mdettweiler> @n2diy: what unused mobo devices? both of the IDE devices on the mobo's header are used--they're both hard drives, hda and hdb.
[05:23] <mdettweiler> ubuntu runs from hdb, XP from hda.
[05:24] <b4chip>  how can I see what rights are applied to a directory from command line?
[05:24] <Rave1_> jeeez, Unetbootin works nicely
[05:24] <jeeez> how do i burn an iso image into a thumbdrive?
[05:25] <jeeez> Rave1_: thanks, i'll check it out
[05:25] <dronix> mdettweiler: try F12
[05:25] <n2diy> mdettweiler: ok, you have two devices on the primary ide, and two on the secondary? I thought you mentioned a PCI IDE card too?
[05:26] <mdettweiler> okay, I'll try that, thanks. I'll have to reboot my computer (since I'm on IRC from the same computer), so I'll have to sign off for now.
[05:26] <mdettweiler> @n2diy: the secondary *is* on the PCIe card (there's no PCI card)--Core 2 motherboards only have one onboard IDE header.
[05:27] <n2diy> mdettweiler: ah, ok, I learned something then.
[05:27] <mdettweiler> okay, I'll sign off now so I can try dronix's suggestion regarding the F12 key...
[05:28] <eugie> hi all; anyone around to help me with some routing issues?
[05:28] <angel> fcgdcyjfukyl
[05:28] <eugie> that is, routing traffic via the 'route' command?
[05:30] <n2diy> anybody know how to enable remote vnc viewing in xubuntu, I've installed a client and server, and can view other boxes, but this box refuses connections?
[05:31] <Booh> I just don't understand why, since about 1 month, I can't connect anymore to my pptp vpn connexions from my xubuntu desktop
[05:33] <James1324> hello... anyone know where I can find the repositories for EDGY?
[05:34] <o0Chris0o> !alacarte
[05:34] <o0Chris0o> :(
[05:34] <Flannel> James1324: Edgy has been EOL for... a while now.  You really should consider upgrading.
[05:34] <mdettweiler> okay, I'm back...
[05:35] <James1324> Flannel, I need it for 1 more month
[05:36] <James1324> Flannel, isn't the updgrade going to mess up a lot of things? a format is better right?
[05:36] <o0Chris0o> whats the difference between tar.bz2 and tar.gz?
[05:36] <mdettweiler> @dronix: I tried the F12 trick to get the boot menu. I got something called "Intel Boot Agent"--but the first thing it did was try to get a DHCP address, and then failing that (which is odd since my network does have DHCP), it just decided to quit and hand things off to grub as like a normal bootup.
[05:36] <James1324> bz2 compression is different than gz
[05:36] <Booh> hum.... impossible to connect to cisco vpn too... but all my connexions was working a month ago!
[05:36] <Titan8990> o0Chris0o, different compression methods, bz2 is more compressed and gz is after compression/decompression times
[05:36] <dronix> mdettweiler: what key do you use to access your bios?
[05:37] <Flannel> James1324: um, a fresh install would be a lot nicer for you, since you have to upgrade three times to get to something reasonable (Hardy).
[05:37] <mdettweiler> @dronix: F1
[05:37] <Flannel> James1324: although, no, upgrades wont break things
[05:37] <o0Chris0o> Titan8990: alright so it doesn't matter which I download then if its the same file?
[05:37] <Titan8990> o0Chris0o, no, it doesn't matter
[05:37] <James1324> Flannel, if they won't break things then I can upgrade
[05:37] <James1324> if your sure
[05:38] <o0Chris0o> Titan8990: alright, thanks
[05:38] <Flannel> James1324: well, Edgy requires some special upgrade stuff to get to Feisty (since Feisty is also EOL), and then Feisty will need some special stuff to get to Gutsy (Gutsy isn't EOL yet, another month or so)
[05:38] <Titan8990> James1324, i think what he means to say is upgrades are not supposed to break anything...
[05:38] <mdettweiler> @dronix: though, I have already gone through my entire BIOS setup system and found nothing enlightening. As I said before, the BIOS recognizes both CD drives just fine--yet for some reason it won't *boot* from them. :-?
[05:38] <dronix> mdettweiler: hmm, ok, don't know which F key actually will display your boot menu, try from F2 - F12, also give ESC a try
[05:38] <n2diy> James1324: as a last resort, you could use the Debian repos.
[05:39] <James1324> okay, here's my plan.. get the repositories (universal) working for EDGY .. then upgrade in a months time
[05:39] <dronix> mdettweiler: did you change your boot order ino your bios to boot from cd drive first?
[05:39] <Flannel> n2diy: That would be entirely silly.
[05:39] <mdettweiler> @dronix: okay. F12 seemed like it did something with the boot menu, possibly a "boot menu, skip to netboot" choice--I'll give some of the other F-keys and ESC a try as you suggest.
[05:39] <mdettweiler> @dronix: yes, it's set to CD, Floppy, HD-1, HD-2.
[05:39] <mdettweiler> (GRUB is on HD-1)
[05:39] <n2diy> Flannel: I said as a last resort.
[05:39] <Flannel> James1324: you can move your sources to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[05:40] <James1324> Flannel, I'm not following
[05:40] <dronix> mdettweiler: does the drive light up when you boot?
[05:40] <James1324> my old sources?
[05:40] <Flannel> James1324: Open your sources.list and change all of the URLs to old-releases.ubuntu.com (instead of archive.ubuntu.com or security.ubuntu.om)
[05:40] <Flannel> James1324: That'll work as repositories.  Mind you, those versions haven't been updated for *over* a year now.  And there are some major vulnerabilities that are still present in Edgy.
[05:40] <mdettweiler> @dronix: well, when the computer first powers up, it lights up a bit and spins a small bit, but interestingly enough, right after the BIOS is finished with its splash screen, the CD is dead quiet with no noises. It doesn't start making noises/flashing until about the middle of the Ubuntu loading process.
[05:41] <Flannel> James1324: I strongly advise against using SSH on that machine, for instance.
[05:41] <Flannel> James1324: that is, a SSH server.
[05:41] <James1324> I use SSH all that time
[05:41] <James1324> Flannel*
[05:41] <Flannel> James1324: As a server?
[05:41] <James1324> yes
[05:41] <dronix> mdettweiler: can you access your cd drive in ubuntu?
[05:41] <James1324> the machine is a server
[05:41] <mdettweiler> @dronix: yes, in fact I've got the Ubuntu LiveCD mounted and accessible right now.
[05:41] <Flannel> James1324: You're aware you're still vulnerable to that major SSL vulnerability that was all the rage a year ago, right?
[05:42] <James1324> I'm aware that I was
[05:42] <James1324> but I took care of it
[05:42] <dronix> mdettweiler: you mean you are talking using the live cd?
[05:42] <Flannel> James1324: How exactly did you 'take care of it'?
[05:42] <James1324> downloaded the update for it
[05:42] <mdettweiler> @dronix: yes, I'm trying to use the LiveCD.
[05:42] <James1324> EDGY didn't go EOL that long ago
[05:42] <Flannel> James1324: Edgy EOLd before the update.
[05:43] <Flannel> James1324: So unless you compiled your own...
[05:43] <rww> James1324: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-612-1
[05:43] <mdettweiler> @dronix: this is mainly so that when I reinstall XP to replace a corrupted dualboot installation, I can use the LiveCD to restore GRUB after Windows wipes it out.
[05:43] <rww> James1324: ^ is what Flannel's talking about ^
[05:43] <James1324> EDGY is 6.10.. and not on that list
[05:43] <mdettweiler> @dronix: though, with the way things are acting right now, it won't boot from *any* cd, whether it's the Ubuntu LiveCD, or the XP install CD, or anything else for that matter.
[05:43] <Flannel> James1324: right, because it was EOL at the time (and understood that it wouldn'tbe getting more updates)
[05:44] <James1324> ohh shittt really FLANNEL
[05:44] <James1324> haha wow
[05:44] <dronix> mdettweiler: I meant if you were using the live cd now, but I"m guessing you are just using your ubuntu partition?
[05:44] <James1324> but 1 more thing.. I got an update notification for it
[05:44] <rww> James1324: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/229951 . Dapper wasn't vulnerable to it. Edgy was.
[05:44] <James1324> and updated the SSH thing
[05:44] <mdettweiler> @dronix: ah, I see. Yes, I'm using the Ubuntu installed on the HD right now.
[05:44] <quietas> Hey folks, is there a way to do an online dist upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04 without doing 8.10 in the middle?
[05:44] <Flannel> James1324: What does `lsb_release -a` give you?
[05:44] <mdettweiler> @dronix: but the LiveCD is in the drive.
[05:44] <Flannel> quietas: No.
[05:45] <dronix> mdettweiler: do you have a floppy drive?
[05:45] <Flannel> quietas: Also, #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty (which is still a development version) support/questions.  Thanks
[05:45] <James1324> gives me :"Release 6.10"
[05:45] <mdettweiler> @dronix: yes, and the system *does* boot from floppy OK.
[05:45] <rmrfslash_> I'm noticing that Ubuntu uses only the first entry in resolv.conf
[05:45] <James1324> + other stuff
[05:45] <rww> quietas: The only supported upgrade path from 8.04 is to the next LTS release when it comes out, and 8.10.
[05:45] <rmrfslash_> the first nameserver
[05:46] <dronix> mdettweiler: I believe you can create a bootable floppy to force your bios to boot into your cd
[05:46] <mdettweiler> @dronix: but everywhere I search online for a Ubuntu bootfloppy, the best I get is instructions on how to make a rescue floppy with a GRUB duplicated from that on the HD.
[05:46] <dronix> ah ok
[05:46] <Titan8990> rmrfslash_, it attempts to use it first, if it works, it won't bother to keep looking
[05:46] <rmrfslash_> which in my case is broken. Is this a bug? How can I edit this file as the file is overwritten by dhclient?
[05:46] <mdettweiler> @dronix: hmm, I was thinking along those same lines myself, but again, I was having a hard time actually finding something to that extent through Google (searched for "ubuntu boot floppy")
[05:46] <Flannel> James1324: Right.  You did not get an update for it.
[05:46] <Titan8990> rmrfslash_, don't use DHCP if you want static DNS
[05:47] <rmrfslash_> I need DHCP for my IP address
[05:47] <James1324> Flannel, ohh I think I figured out what happened, I actually did the update then upgrade my Ubuntu to 6.10 from 6.06 (Dapper) the LTS
[05:47] <dronix> mdettweiler: hmm, well, give those keys a try first, if that doesn't work. we'll figure it out
[05:47] <Titan8990> rmrfslash_, you set up static addresses
[05:47] <mdettweiler> @dronix: okay, I'll sign off now so I can reboot and give the other F-keys a try.
[05:47] <Flannel> James1324: Why on earth did you upgrade from an LTS for a server (that you weren't going to upgrade for 3 years?)
[05:47] <n2diy> James1324: you can update from LTS to LTS
[05:47] <rmrfslash_> I don't control the DHCP server
[05:47] <James1324> because I'm an idiot
[05:48] <dronix> lol @ James1324
[05:48] <James1324> when is the next LTS out?
[05:48] <Flannel> James1324: Alright.  Well, you can use old-releases in the meantime.  Definately install 8.04 when you're ready to upgrade.
[05:48] <Flannel> James1324: and then stick with 8.04 until 10.04 comes out
[05:49] <rmrfslash_> I'm just wondering why I have nameservers in my resolv.conf that are from my place of employment (I'm at home on my home wireless)
[05:49] <crdlb> James1324: afaik, that particular vulnerability only affects key generation, so if you generated your key pair on dapper, it should be ok
[05:49] <n2diy> James1324: 8.04
[05:49] <crdlb> but of course, that's not the only one
[05:49] <quietas> 8.04 is quite stable, I've been running my 3 servers on it and work after replacing 6.06
[05:49] <James1324> 8.04 LTS is what I'll do
[05:50] <quietas> Here at home as well but I'm going to play with 9.04 for the newer packages, my home server is 3/4 play machne anyway =)
[05:50] <n2diy> anybody know how to enable remote vnc viewing in xubuntu, I've installed a client and server, and can view other boxes, but this box refuses connections?
[05:50] <default>  bootup
[05:51] <quietas> n2diy: firewalled or check the service?
[05:51] <Tech-Mike_> n2diy:  configured port forwarding
[05:51] <mdkess_> Is it possible to set the resolution of the virtual terminals (ctrl+alt+F*) to a widescreen resolution?
[05:52] <mustafa> hello:)
[05:52] <James1324> I was planning on waiting till the 2TB HDD's come down in price before my new Ubuntu Install
[05:52] <James1324> but I guess I'll have to do this on my old box which can't handle the 8.04
[05:52] <rmrfslash_> I think these nameservers are coming from /etc/resolvconf/run/interface/tun0 or /etc/resolvconf/run/interface/resolvconf
[05:52] <rmrfslash_> can I edit these files?
[05:52] <mustafa> l
[05:52] <rmrfslash_> or delete them?
[05:53] <rmrfslash_> what is tun0... a tunnel?
[05:53] <n2diy> quietas: stock firewall, and no option in services.
[05:53] <Titan8990> rmrfslash_, yes, its a tunnel interface
[05:53] <quietas> James1234:  Hehe, I've done the same. I use a Raptor 146gb as the OS drive, then 2x 500gb from my older server, 2x 1tb from my current server and I'll add in 2x 2tb this summer probably
[05:53] <Titan8990> rmrfslash_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TUN/TAP
[05:53] <JoshuaRL> im having some issues, where should i look for the error logs?  my laptop keeps freezing when i close the lid.
[05:53] <mdettweiler> okay, I'm back. :-)
[05:53] <Tech-Mike> n2diy:  configured port forwarding?
[05:53] <mdettweiler> @dronix: thanks, F12 worked!
[05:54] <Titan8990> mdkess_, https://wiki.edubuntu.org/FrameBuffer
[05:54] <dronix> mdettweiler: ok great
[05:54] <n2diy> Tech-Mike: a stock xubuntu install, so I haven't played with anything like that. I was hoping it would work out of the box.
[05:54] <mdettweiler> @dronix: thanks a bunch--have a great day! :-D
[05:54] <dronix> you too
[05:54] <rmrfslash_> so this was likely made by the VPN client I tried to install a few hours ago (which failed to compile)
[05:54] <mdettweiler> signing off now...
[05:54] <quietas> n2diy: are you connecting across the same lan then?
[05:54] <Tech-Mike> n2diy: do u have a router
[05:54] <rmrfslash_> Can I delete this?
[05:55] <Titan8990> rmrfslash_, possibly, if so it probably altered NAT rules in iptables too
[05:55] <rmrfslash_> iptables -L shows no rules
[05:55] <Titan8990> rmrfslash_, if you don't need it, yes
[05:55] <n2diy> quietas: , Tech-Mike, yes, both boxes are on the same lan, and router.
[05:55] <afallenhope> hey I recompiled all the alsa drivers and utils and everything so I know it's not an issue with that. I'm simply asking if I'm trying to follow the following tutorial does it matter that I'm on amd64 running 32 bit skype and 64bit jackd? (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=577914)
[05:56] <Tech-Mike> n2diy: in your router settings try setting up port forwarding for the corrisponding ports for remote access
[05:56] <Titan8990> afallenhope, that would probably be best asked on that forum thread
[05:56] <afallenhope> the error is Cannot open shared library /usr/lib32/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_jack.so
[05:56] <quietas> TEch-Mike: He shouldn't need to do port forwarding if he is connecgin from inside the lan to another box inside the lan
[05:57] <Titan8990> afallenhope, did you actually compile alsa drivers from source?
[05:57] <Tech-Mike> quietas: true but worth a try
[05:57] <n2diy> Tech-Mike: umm, why would the router allow one box to connect to the other, and not the other way around?
[05:57] <afallenhope> Titan8990, yeah. I used the script provided at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6589810
[05:57] <afallenhope> and everything updated correctly
[05:57] <quietas> n2diy: is a firewall like  ufw or iptables/ipchains running?
[05:59] <Titan8990> afallenhope, wow, thats really not recommended....
[05:59] <n2diy> quietas: I would imagine, I'm new te Xubuntu, so I'm not sure. I never had this trouble with Ubuntu.
[05:59] <afallenhope> Titan8990, runs better than it used to..
[05:59] <daniel13> alguem poderia me ajudar a instalar o broffice eu tentei todas as maneiras na net
[05:59] <daniel13> por favor
[06:00] <Titan8990> afallenhope, well, I would recommend using one of those tutorial threads
[06:00] <Titan8990> afallenhope, compiling modules from source is really not the ubuntu way of doing things
[06:00] <o0Chris0o> how do I change the mouse themes....I forgot..
[06:01] <daniel13> aparece semore esse erro E: /var/cache/apt/archives/broffice.org_1%3a3.0.1-7ubuntu1~intrepid1_all.deb: tentando sobrescrever '/usr/share/applications/openoffice.org-base.desktop', que também está no pacote openoffice.org-base
[06:01] <afallenhope> Titan8990, yeah... well ubuntu is slow at releasing UP TO DATE drivers. soooo I do it my own way lol.
[06:01] <quietas> n2diy: i run most of my linux using server version, and windows as the client, bear with me. As I remember there should be a tool to configure the firewall in the settings menu. I'd turn it off and check VNC at that point
[06:01] <quietas> Someone out ther with Xubuntu able to check the exact steps?
[06:02] <Titan8990> quietas, you have to install a GUI for iptables
[06:02] <Titan8990> !iptables | quietas n2diy
[06:02] <quietas> if it'sa  newer version would it not be using ufw now?
[06:02] <afallenhope> firestarter was HORRRIBLE lol.
[06:02] <Titan8990> quietas, ufw is a CLI tool, I think it needs to be installed as well
[06:03] <Titan8990> afallenhope, yes, it is now considered a dead project
[06:03] <afallenhope> didn't allow customizable rules.. and didn't pick up on changes..
[06:03] <ultratek> what is the update all cmd that has the && ?
[06:03] <afallenhope> Titan8990, yeah..well.. people like to use the power of ALSA rather than using crappy sound like pulse
[06:03] <Titan8990> ultratek, && in bash means "run this next command only after you have finished the first command"
[06:04] <Titan8990> afallenhope, I don't use ubuntu, I just hang out and help the linux newbs :)
[06:04] <ultratek> titan, ty
[06:04] <afallenhope> Titan8990, lol nice
[06:05] <skyl> what have people been saying about the new desktop art?
[06:05] <rww> Titan8990: ufw is installed by default in intrepid and higher
[06:05] <Titan8990> rww, thanks
[06:05] <n2diy> skyl: for 8.10? I don't like it.
[06:05] <daniel13> when i go to install broffice 3.0 appear the wrong "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/broffice.org_1%3a3.0.1-7ubuntu1~intrepid1_all.deb: tentando sobrescrever '/usr/share/applications/openoffice.org-base.desktop', que também está no pacote openoffice.org-base
[06:05] <daniel13>  what the meaning of this?
[06:06] <matthew_> how can i bond 2 ethernet controllers from the command line without changing config files?
[06:06] <Titan8990> daniel13, ehh
[06:06] <skyl> actually, this in not +1 ...
[06:06] <Titan8990> !es | daniel13
[06:06] <ultratek> i lost my menu in the upper right that lets me logout and shutdown and so forth..when i uninstalled gdm and reinstalled ....how do i get it back?
[06:07] <n2diy> ultratek: right click on the panel, and then add/remove?
[06:07] <daniel13> somebody knows?
[06:07] <afallenhope> Titan8990, what distro you running?
[06:07] <ultratek> n2diy, i have added a shutdown button..but before there was a whole menu that is not in the list
[06:07] <Titan8990> afallenhope, gentoo
[06:08] <Titan8990> afallenhope, a bit of extra work but always up to date
[06:08] <afallenhope> Titan8990, good man lol. good os.. I WAS running it.. then i decided to try ubuntu... bad choice..
[06:08] <n2diy> ultratek: then I don't know what to suggest?
[06:08] <ultratek> n2diy, thank you for your help
[06:08] <Tech-Mike> ultratek: the User Switcher applet
[06:09] <ultratek> hmm
[06:09] <Tech-Mike> Fast User Switch Applet 2.24.0
[06:09] <Titan8990> afallenhope, yeah, I think of ubuntu as mainly a starter distro
[06:09] <Titan8990> afallenhope, the gateway drug into linux :)
[06:09] <n2diy> ultratek: maybe, from a terminal, sudo restart gnome-panel?
[06:09] <canuck1> DANG, Ubuntu, with dual screen support is a MILLION times better than windows
[06:09] <canuck1> with ULTRAMON!
[06:09] <LordFDisk> Can someone help me with http://www.zeropaid.com/news/9608/guide_using_linux_to_beat_comcasts_bittorrent_throttling/    .... on what to do? I did the "sh" under root ... please
[06:10] <canuck1> deskspace flip with compiz etc
[06:10] <canuck1> VERY useful
[06:10] <afallenhope> Titan8990, nice!
[06:10] <b3rz3rk3r> anyway to use a laptop via Eth cable as a secondary monitor?
[06:10] <afallenhope> Titan8990, I tired fedora.. then I ran away lol tooo many bugs
[06:10] <quietas> canuck1: hehe, multiple desktops has always been a great feature in linux, with ot without multiple monitors
[06:10] <ultratek> tech-mike, is this applet a apt-get?
[06:11] <quietas> I never did like GEntoo much, but Mint is doing well
[06:11] <Titan8990> afallenhope, I'm not a big fan of fedora/centos/red hat
[06:11] <afallenhope> Titan8990, noice! mind if I pm you a sec?
[06:11] <Titan8990> afallenhope, thats fine
[06:11] <Tech-Mike> ultratek: u can get it via synaptic
[06:11] <canuck1> quietas: I am loving it TONS :) I flip the desktop and 2 more desktops
[06:12] <canuck1> I can span video across both screens without loosing taskbars etc
[06:12] <canuck1> VERY flexible
[06:12] <Tech-Mike> ultratek: in synaptic do a search for fast user switch and it will be...fast-user-switch-applet
[06:12] <quietas> canuck1: yeah, much more monitor wall friendly =)
[06:12] <canuck1> quietas: and the restricted drivers actually worked with ease this time :)
[06:12] <the9a3eedi> man I wish apt-file update would be more verbose :( is it doing anything? why is it taking so much time...
[06:13] <quietas> canuck1: At work I run my workstation with 2 nvidia pci-e cards and 4 19" lcd
[06:13] <canuck1> quietas: I bet that is nice :)
[06:14] <canuck1> I need to read some guides for compiz, so I can get the shortcuts configured properly
[06:14] <quietas> canuck1L Yeah I leave half a dozen separate firefox windows open to monitor our servers, VNC clients, helpdesk, ...
[06:14] <ultratek> tech-mike, how do i launch it after it is installed?
[06:15] <Tech-Mike> ultratek: right click the panel and add to panel, find it in the list
[06:15] <ultratek> tech-mike, it is not showing
[06:16] <n2diy> is there a light weight database that will play with Abiword and Gnumeric?
[06:16] <canuck1> quietas: can you recommend any HD benchmarking tools for linux?
[06:16] <abstortedminds> Hi, I have an extra drive in my box, wondering how i use fstab to automount it, i have this line i just wrote in fstab:  /dev/sdb1	/media/torrent	ext3	defaults 0	0
[06:16] <Tech-Mike> ultratek: its named User Switcher
[06:17] <ultratek> tech-mike..not inthere
[06:17] <quietas> canuck1: oh hell, I was jsut doing that last week while playing with my new sata card, one sec
[06:17] <marcusdavidus> hello
[06:17] <lampliter> got webcam from hell on this laptop.  need to blacklist the module (gspca_vc032x) just to get the standard desktop install to run.  any suggestions on how to do that?
[06:17] <marcusdavidus> is anyone know a way to make guake  work on bottom of the screen ?
[06:18] <Tech-Mike> ultratek: u sure u installed via synaptic?  try either logging out or rebooting - and see if it shows up in the list
[06:18] <marcusdavidus> not drop down from an top
[06:18] <ultratek> k
[06:18] <n2diy> canuck1: hdparm -t /dev/xxx
[06:18] <ultratek> brb
[06:18] <canuck1> does that check cpu usage?
[06:18] <RaNdY> Hello, how to see network-address to be conf in named.conf.local (bind9)?
[06:18] <quietas> canuck1: yeah hdparm, also there is bonie or somethin like that
[06:18] <n2diy> canuck1: no, just through put.
[06:19] <canuck1> I need to sudo this app
[06:19] <lampliter> RaNdY: try host
[06:19] <quietas> canuck1: have top running in another terminal and you can watch the load
[06:20] <Titan8990> RaNdY, probably better luck in #ubuntu-server
[06:20] <canuck1> hmm sda1 does 73mb/sec and sdb1 does 50
[06:20] <ultratek> tech-mike, kool its there ty?
[06:21] <ultratek> ?*
[06:21] <Tech-Mike> ultratek: yw
[06:21] <canuck1> wow minimal cpu usage
[06:21] <canuck1> like nill
[06:22] <quietas> canuck1: I googled it, bonnie++ was the thing I was thinking of also. http://linux.com/feature/139742
[06:22] <bas_> damit
[06:22] <joeDFV> hola a todos
[06:22] <Kasm279> i would ask this in #kubuntu, bet theres no one awake
[06:22] <Kasm279> ny laptop shut down when i was installing ubuntu-desktop and now i get "dpkg interrupted" message in terminal, wat do i do?
[06:22] <joeDFV> Hi
[06:22] <joeDFV> Hi
[06:23] <canuck1> quietas: thanks
[06:23] <n2diy> Kasm279: no, they are all partying with the folks from Xubuntu.
[06:23] <newbieneedinghel> I have 8.04 hardy how do I upgrade to the latest?
[06:23] <tetonca_> For the Dell Mini 9: what works well in the dell-installed ubuntu?  what's broken?  veteran debian user here.
[06:23] <tetonca_> I have one on order.
[06:24] <n2diy> Kasm279: update dpkg, or something like that.
[06:24] <Kasm279> the whole of dell is broken
[06:24] <JyZyXEL> if you want to permanently remove something from an ext3 partition in a way that it cannot be restored is the only way to remove the data and then reuse all the free space temporarily?
[06:24] <tetonca_> haha.
[06:24] <Kasm279> i cant use adept
[06:24] <bas_> -n bas
[06:24] <Kasm279> ou, its installed under wubi
[06:24] <bas_> noob: how can i change my name here?
[06:24] <ultratek> tech-mike, can you do remote desktop?
[06:24] <jemark> newbieneedinghel: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/upgrade-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron-to-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibix.html
[06:25] <n2diy> bas /nick
[06:25] <Kasm279> type /nick yournickhere
[06:25] <bas_> great!
[06:25] <quietas> newbieneedinghel: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[06:25] <bas_> thank you!
[06:26] <newbieneedinghel> thx
[06:26] <P-Luc_Auclair> hi, I have just tried the 8.10 livecd and I was wondering : is the automatic installation of different required packages, for example for mp3 codecs, a Ubuntu-specific feature or a Gnome feature in general too?
[06:26] <yasu>
[06:26] <jemark> newbieneedinghel: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/upgrade-ubuntu-804-hardy-heron-to-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibix.html
[06:27] <magnetron> P-Luc_Auclair→ it's ubuntu-specific, but other distros have similar features
[06:27] <bary_> I cant seem to get my line-in audio capture to unmute?
[06:27] <P-Luc_Auclair> magnetron: thanks ! it's really nice, coming from OpenSuse I hope they'll adopt that too
[06:28] <P-Luc_Auclair> magnetron: do you happen to know if it's integrated to Kubuntu too ?
[06:28] <magnetron> P-Luc_Auclair→ i don't know.
[06:29] <Kasm279> wats integrated into kubuntu?
[06:29] <quietas> P-Luc_Auclair: It should be integrated across all Ubuntu's, but i'm not possitive
[06:29] <canuck1> I need a nice torrent client for linux
[06:29] <Kasm279> p-luc?
[06:29] <Kasm279> transmission?
[06:30] <P-Luc_Auclair> Kasm279: automatic package installation
[06:30] <Kasm279> ?
[06:30] <Kasm279> oh
[06:30] <P-Luc_Auclair> quietas: 'k
[06:30] <Kasm279> like synaptics
[06:30] <Kasm279> ?
[06:30] <P-Luc_Auclair> yes, synaptic
[06:30] <canuck1> oh yes
[06:30] <canuck1> transmission, already installed hah
[06:30] <Kasm279> its adept in kubuntu
[06:31] <Kasm279> but you can install synaptics
[06:31] <quietas> canuck1: bittornado works, I use torrentflux on my server though
[06:31] <canuck1> I recall using transmission in the past, although limited
[06:32] <canuck1> quietas:  I will check out those others
[06:32] <Kasm279> im assuming k was registered?
[06:32] <n2diy> I forget, does setting up the screen saver to lock require a username and passwd to re-activate, or just the passwd of the previous user?
[06:32] <Kasm279> pass
[06:32] <Kasm279> n2diy
[06:32] <quietas> canuck1: I used transmission on the mac and did not like it much, Torrentflus is great as I tell it to download on my home server, then shut my laptop and go to work
[06:33] <n2diy> Kasm279: yes?
[06:33] <Kasm279> just the password
[06:33] <Kasm279>
[06:33] <Tech-Mike> for torrents why not use wine+utorrent
[06:33] <n2diy> Kasm279: ok, thanks.
[06:33] <Kasm279> UTORRENT!!
[06:33] <Kasm279> i agree
[06:34] <marcusdavidus> re
[06:34] <quietas> hehe, i like utorrent on my windows box for sure
[06:34] <canuck1> Tech-Mike:  many people do use utorrent in linux hah
[06:34] <Kasm279> but playonlinux is better than wine
[06:34] <Tech-Mike> canuck1: i know - brefly caught the conv about using a torrent client so i threw it out there
[06:35] <canuck1> quietas: torrentflux looks neat :)
[06:35] <n2diy> Kasm279: so if I let the screensaver kick in, nobody can unlock it but me? I'd like to set it up, so someone else could log in, but, I guess this is kiosk territory?
[06:35] <gte351s> hi all - I need help logging back into my system... :(
[06:35] <Kasm279> well, anyone that knows your pass could get in
[06:36] <canuck1> Kasm279: playonlinux looks neat
[06:36] <quietas> canuck1: on my home server I run samba fore filesharing, torrentflux for downloading, firefly for itunes sharing, next is something for xbox 360 video sharing
[06:36] <gte351s> after rebooting I no longer have english available for some reason, and can't enter a username and password
[06:36] <Kasm279> ive never got it installed, though
[06:36] <whou> hi is there anyone here who knows how to boot an iso from the hard drive?
[06:36] <Kasm279> look here, i think
[06:36] <canuck1> quietas: a linux based solution for the 360?
[06:37] <Kasm279> !instal
[06:37] <Kasm279> !install
[06:37] <whou> Kasm279: I already tried that...
[06:37] <Kasm279> hm...
[06:38] <quietas> canuck1: not quite, stock 360 but to be able to view my video files shared from my linux server as though it were a media center
[06:38] <n2diy> ! kiosk
[06:38] <bary_> Hi, how do I unmute the line-in jack?
[06:38] <Kasm279> woa, i came in here to be helped, but i am helping everyone else
[06:38] <radioman-lt> ;}
[06:39] <n2diy> Kasm279: welcome to the Revolution!
[06:39] <Kasm279> i like it
[06:39] <gte351s> how can I restore English on my system if I can't even log in (user and pass are in english)?
[06:39] <quietas> canuck1: ushare is the tool I've read a bit about for it - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=632428
[06:39] <Baconizer> hai everyone
[06:39] <Kasm279> ello
[06:39] <n2diy> gte351s: with your install disk?
[06:40] <bsdunix> zoiper softphone really works! sip / asterix rocks
[06:40] <hateball> canuck1: ps3mediaserver works nice
[06:41] <canuck1> I still need to get my logitech fusion webcam working, and the avertv capture card
[06:41] <n2diy> is there a light weight database that will play with Abiword and Gnumeric?
[06:41] <bsdunix> hateball: try tversity?
[06:41] <gte351s> n2diy: I am booted through the live cd - how can I use it to restore english for the already installed os?
[06:42] <hateball> bsdunix: umm... it's windows only?
[06:42] <hateball> bsdunix: also, no source for it
[06:42] <bsdunix> windows isn't the devil, is it?
[06:43] <Baconizer> it is
[06:43] <hateball> !ot
[06:43] <n2diy> gte351s: for the keyboard menu-system-keyboard, for system wide, I'd look in system for a language option.
[06:44] <Kasm279> sooooo
[06:44] <bsdunix> and then the tme came that workload demanded of me that i focus on getting work done instead of how to work on my middleware working
[06:44] <bullgard4> n2diy: What about sqllite?
[06:44] <gte351s> n2diy: not sure I follow, I'm kinda new at this
[06:44] <lavecoi_> hello
[06:44] <lavecoi_> hello
[06:45] <n2diy> gte351s: click on the panel menu "system"
[06:45] <gte351s> right
[06:45] <n2diy> bullgard4: thanks, I'll check it out.
[06:46] <Kasm279> ny laptop shut down when i was installing ubuntu-desktop and now i get "dpkg interrupted" message in terminal, wat do i do?
[06:46] <n2diy> ! sqllite
[06:46] <Kasm279> and in adept
[06:46] <xMopx> Hey guys - Any tips on what format to use on an external disk that is ubuntu/windiows/mac compatible, NOT ntfs. It needs to be able to hold files >4gb, so that rules out FAT, I believe
[06:46] <n2diy> ! dpkg
[06:46] <Titan8990> xMopx, NTFS.... or install ext drivers for windows
[06:46] <Kasm279> that really helped:(
[06:47] <pyrohotdog> When I'm in console mode, my screen/prompt is constantly over run with messages say the anac(h)ronistic cron anacron is stopping and starting...what's going on?
[06:47] <Titan8990> xMopx, windows does not know very many filesystems
[06:47] <xMopx> Yeah... Its a shame..
[06:47] <canuck1> why a shame? NTFS ROCKS :)
[06:47] <bsdunix> pyrohotdog: uninstall anacron. you don't need it
[06:47] <dj_ryan> hey im trying to dist-upgrade to intrepid
[06:47] <dj_ryan> and i get:
[06:47] <xMopx> NTFS is terribly slow on non-windows platforms.
[06:47] <dj_ryan> E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libc6
[06:47] <n2diy> Kasm279:  have you tried sudo apt-get update?
[06:47] <Titan8990> canuck1, sarcasm I hope
[06:48] <Kasm279> yes
[06:48] <canuck1> yes
[06:48] <Kasm279> thats when i get the message
[06:48] <quietas> Kasm279: Also you can tray apt-get clean
[06:48] <gte351s> n2diy: I'm am currently running through the live cd, so how can I make changes that affect the already installed ubuntu?
[06:48] <pyrohotdog> bsdunix: what's the package called? anacron?
[06:48] <Titan8990> xMopx, yeah... try the ext windows drivers
[06:48] <bsdunix> pyrohotdog: yes
[06:48] <n2diy> Kasm279:  have you tried sudo apt-get install?
[06:49] <Titan8990> gte351s, depends on what your trying to do
[06:49] <Kasm279> anythin else (im logging this for tomorrow)
[06:49] <Kasm279> no
[06:49] <xMopx> I would, but I've also tried them on mac and they're about the same as ntfs-3g - terrible...
[06:49] <Titan8990> xMopx, they both use similar FUSE drivers
[06:49] <quietas> kasm279: I'd try the clean or autoclean, that should clear out all downloaded packages
[06:49] <Kasm279> i cant get on my lappy now
[06:50] <NeoTubNinja> what SYSTEM do you use for make? linux-x86-mmx?
[06:50] <Kasm279> ok
[06:50] <n2diy> gte351s: I was afraid that question was coming, I'm not sure? :/  Maybe the repair option at cd boot would work?
[06:50] <gte351s> Titan8990: I lost english on my system after reboot, and can't login (user and pass are in english)
[06:50] <pyrohotdog> bsdunix: thank you. :)
[06:50] <abstortedminds> how can i make it so that drives dont show up on desktop?
[06:50] <bsdunix> pyrohotdog:  don't mention it
[06:50] <Titan8990> gte351s, ehh, have no idea on what config file to edit but you will want mount the ubuntu drive and edit a config
[06:50] <gte351s> n2diy: I guess it's worth a shot :) worst case I'll just reinstall
[06:50] <marcusdavidus> su ny one know wy to make guake roll from bottom of da screen ?
[06:50] <Titan8990> gte351s, or you can log in to recovery mode and set the password for the new language
[06:51] <Titan8990> gte351s, then make the language adjustments, recovery mode again, change PW again
[06:51] <n2diy> gte351s: gl, reinstall is something we like to leave behind with windows, but...
[06:51] <Kasm279> ok, thanks everybody
[06:51] <Kasm279> g'night
[06:51] <gte351s> Titan8990: recovery mode doesn't really let me type anything without english (in terminal)
[06:52] <Yossi> how do i change what timezone ubuntu thinks im in?
[06:52] <bullgard4> n2diy: s/sqllite/SQLite
[06:52] <dj_ryan> speaking of reinstall, my ubuntu gusty doesnt like being upgraded to intrepid, cant configure libc is what i get when doing apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:52] <joljam> i am not able to write files to the DVD in ubuntu intrepid
[06:53] <n2diy> ! SQLite
[06:53] <the99zChris> hey would anyone know what i messed up in gnome(hardy) if my compiz shortcuts don't work anymore, my volume popup display looks def not as good, and it looks like i now have only 256 colors..??
[06:53] <bsdunix> Yossi: google's feeling awful lonely without you right about now
[06:53] <gte351s> Titan8990: how can I change the password via the live cd for the new language? Probably the best thing is to set up a new user and password, but how to make it stick after the live cd reboot?
[06:53] <gte351s> n2diy: yeah, that's what I thought :D
[06:53] <Titan8990> gte351s, you have to chroot into your ubuntu drive for something like that
[06:54] <n2diy> bullgard4: thanks, Maybe I don't need a DB? Abiword might beable to use Gnumeric for mail merge?
[06:54] <Yossi> bsdunix: point taken :P
[06:54] <gte351s> Titan8990: should I mount the device or something?
[06:54] <ramontayag> hey all. i tried asking in the ubuntu forums but it seems people are asleep there :) i've got a compaq presario 1200 with a fresh install of xubuntu. i booted it up but the login screen is blank! i tried connecting an external monitor, and then restarted gnome, and then that's when the laptop shows the login screen. what should i do so I won't need to plugin a cable to make the laptop...
[06:54] <ramontayag> ...display something?
[06:54] <joljam> someone please help me.. I am not able to write to my dvd
[06:54] <Titan8990> gte351s, yes, it needs to be mounted
[06:54] <quietas> alrighty folks, its off to bed for me. Night all
[06:55] <bullgard4> n2diy: Sorry but I am not very much familiar with Abiword.
[06:55] <roccity_> what up guys
[06:55] <n2diy> bullgard4: np, I'm not either, obviously, but I'm learning.
[06:55] <the99zChris>  hey would anyone know what i messed up in gnome(hardy) if my compiz shortcuts don't work anymore, my volume popup display looks def not as good, and it looks like i now have only 256 colors..??
[06:56] <abstortedminds> How do i make it so that my drives dont display on desktop
[06:56] <roccity_> the99zChris:you haven't changed your xorg file have you
[06:56] <eMaX> don't look at them
[06:57] <Titan8990> gte351s, now, assuming you mounted it to /media/ubuntu:    mount -t proc none /media/ubuntu/proc && mount -o bind /dev /media/ubuntu/dev && chroot /media/ubuntu /bin/bash && envupdate
[06:57] <Titan8990> gte351s, from a root shell: sudo -i
[06:57] <the99zChris> no, but i did run a couple lines of commands i didn't entirely understand in the terminal, would xorg be a good place to start lookin?
[06:58] <gte351s> Titan8990: I think I'm mounted from /media/disk - how do I find out?
[06:58] <roccity_> the99zChris: yeah check the depth that it is running at and the video driver I think you want at least 24 for the depth
[06:58] <the99zChris> but i'm pretty sure the problems were delayed a bit
[06:58] <Titan8990> gte351s, you have to specify a mount location when you mount....
[06:58] <bsdunix> call mount
[06:59] <Titan8990> gte351s, eg- sudo mount /dev/sdxx /media/ubuntu   <----mount location
[06:59] <the99zChris> sounds good thanks, u know how to get compiz hotkeys workin again? its running but not working if that makes sense
[06:59] <Titan8990> gte351s, but yes, mount alone will display where all devices are mounted
[06:59] <roccity_> the99zChris: what about in the screen resolution
[06:59] <n2diy> abstortedminds: right click on the desktop, and explore your options.
[06:59] <roccity_> the99zChris: what were the commands that you entered in a term
[07:00] <gte351s> Titan8990: I got /dev/sdb1 on /media/disk type vfat
[07:00] <Titan8990> gte351s, that doesn't sound right
[07:00] <the99zChris> to be honest i don't know, i copy/pasted which i'm now seriously regretting.. no screen resolution option from right click desktop though
[07:01] <Titan8990> gte351s, it should be a linux formatted drive, I would be very surprised if a linux install would even work on fat
[07:01] <the99zChris> and no option to change colors when i go to system>preferences>screen resolution
[07:01] <gte351s> Titan8990: here's what I get for running mount alone: http://pastie.org/426290
[07:02] <eMaX> the99zChris, graca?
[07:02] <the99zChris> graca?
[07:02] <roccity_> the99zChris: I would look in your xorg to start
[07:03] <the99zChris> cool, a starting place does wonders thanks! i'll leave u guys alone now :)
[07:03] <sachin_> i want to make my ubuntu desktop as a multi-seat...the doubt is that if i edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ..will my configuration reflect...i am using intrepid
[07:03] <Titan8990> gte351s, there is no linux drive mounted
[07:04] <oztrout> hello
[07:04] <gte351s> Titan8990: I tried mounting one of the /dev/sda (1-8), but got "mount: can't find /dev/sda5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[07:04] <Titan8990> gte351s, thats because you didn't specify a mount point
[07:05] <sachin_> i want to make my ubuntu desktop as a multi-seat...the doubt is that if i edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ..will my configuration reflect...i am using intrepid...its written in the configuration file that any changes made in that will not reflect
[07:05] <sachin_> i want to make my ubuntu desktop as a multi-seat...the doubt is that if i edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ..will my configuration reflect...i am using intrepid...its written in the configuration file that any changes made in that will not reflect...plz help guys
[07:05] <gte351s> Titan8990: I see. should it be then?
[07:06] <Titan8990> gte351s, sudo -i
[07:06] <oztrout> my browser (firefox) keeps freezing on my when i go to youtube or play youtube movies .... any help ... :)
[07:06] <Titan8990> gte351s, mkdir /media/ubuntu && mount /dev/sdxx /media/ubuntu
[07:06] <Titan8990> gte351s, where /dev/sdxx is your ubuntu main fs drive
[07:07] <lyckegard`> oztrout: just youtube or any flashpage? which flashplayer do you have got? a hint is to use medibuntu to get a good flash-player (the nonfree version)
[07:07] <oztrout> flash pagers
[07:07] <the99zChris> flash is a memory hog too, i had problems with memory..
[07:07] <sachin_> i want to make my ubuntu desktop as a multi-seat...the doubt is that if i edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ..will my configuration reflect...i am using intrepid...its written in the configuration file that any changes made in that will not reflect...plz help guys
[07:07] <oztrout> ok ty i will try that .... brb ...
[07:08] <gte351s> Titan8990: cool, I mounted sda6 (which I think was my main fs, judging by gparted).. next?
[07:08] <sachin_> i want to make my ubuntu desktop as a multi-seat...the doubt is that if i edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ..will my configuration reflect...i am using intrepid...its written in the configuration file that any changes made in that will not reflect...plz help guys
[07:09] <sachin_> i think no ones interested here...
[07:09] <Titan8990> gte351s, you should check the files on it to make sure
[07:10] <gte351s> Titan8990: yeah, it has my home dir.
[07:10] <Titan8990> gte351s, mount -t proc none /media/ubuntu/proc && mount -o bind /dev /media/ubuntu/dev && chroot /media/ubuntu /bin/bash && envupdate
[07:11] <gte351s> Titan8990: what does all that do?
[07:11] <Titan8990> gte351s, mounts dynamic kernel files and device files to your ubuntu filesystem
[07:11] <n2diy> what is the terminal command to make your system beep?
[07:11] <Titan8990> gte351s, then in chroots into the filesystem
[07:11] <taz_> somethign wrong with my webcam???
[07:12] <taz_> my webcam logitech
[07:12] <Titan8990> gte351s, so your new terminal envirnment will be your ubuntu filesystem
[07:12] <gte351s> Titan8990: I get an error mount point /media/ubuntu/proc does not exist
[07:12] <Titan8990> gte351s, pastebin ls -al /media/ubuntu
[07:13] <o0Chris0o> !webcam | taz_
[07:13] <taz_> ok im try
[07:14] <gte351s> Titan8990: http://pastie.org/426290
[07:14] <Titan8990> gte351s, that is not your rootfs
[07:15] <gte351s> Titan8990: I think my root is in another partition now that I see where you're going. gimme a sec to mount it
[07:15] <Titan8990> gte351s, that is your /home partition
[07:15] <n2diy> what is the terminal command to make your system beep? I think it is "bell" but how do I tell bash it is a system command, and not a file?
[07:15] <Titan8990> gte351s, but wait
[07:15] <Titan8990> gte351s, if you have /home on its own partition, you should just reinstall
[07:15] <gte351s> Titan8990: thanks for sticking around, by the way
[07:16] <gte351s> Titan8990: really?.. wont it mess everything up?
[07:16] <Titan8990> gte351s, that is the benefit of having a /home partition, you can install any OS on the root partition but all your files and application settings stay because they are all stored in /home
[07:16] <Titan8990> gte351s, no, shouldn't
[07:16] <Titan8990> gte351s, just don't accidently reformat the /home partition
[07:16] <Titan8990> gte351s, and be sure to select it to be mounted at /home for the new install and your good to go
[07:16] <Ian00> how can i make apt-get to stop asking me about how much disk space will be used
[07:17] <gte351s> Titan8990: alright, I'll do that.
[07:17] <n2diy> Titan8990: but not your apps, you have to re-install those, unless I'm missing something?
[07:17] <gte351s> Titan8990: thanks a lot, if we ever meet - drinks are on me :D
[07:17] <Titan8990> n2diy, yes, applications need to be reinstalled but his settings for those application will remain
[07:18] <Titan8990> n2diy, with the exceptions of server apps that need to be configured by root
[07:18] <Titan8990> gte351s, no problem and good luck :)
[07:18] <bary_> Hi, can anyone tell me, why I can't Un-Mute capture sound?
[07:19] <oztrout> bbl ... :)
[07:19] <taz_> not work with logitech
[07:19] <Titan8990> Ian00, use -q=2
[07:19] <jway> how can I make my screen to the left my primary?
[07:19] <n2diy> Titan8990: roger that, not familiar with servers, bottom line is having a /home important.
[07:19] <Ian00> Titan8990 thank you
[07:19] <jway> the left screen will *always* be the one with menubar, taskbar and desktop icons
[07:21] <n2diy> is there a rule of thumb to determine the size of a /home partition per user?
[07:21] <Titan8990> n2diy, right, its best to keep the rootfs as isolated as possible
[07:21] <sprockets2000> anyone use the cpufreq scaling applet
[07:21] <sprockets2000> I messed up the permissions to it
[07:21] <sprockets2000> need to figure out how to get them back to normal
[07:22]  * N4 away; sleep
[07:23] <n2diy> ! dvd
[07:28] <whou> does anybody know how to boot an iso from a hard drive?
[07:28] <A-KO> Does anyone here know off the top of their head if the eee pc variants of ubuntu support full disk encryption? Or is it something I'd have to add? And if not, could I add it after installation?
[07:29] <Xavierg2003> Hello i need mental help. insert bullet here.
[07:31] <Xavierg2003> yes
[07:31] <pogztimz> how do i convert avi files for my PSP?
[07:33] <dinesh__> i want to contribute to ubuntu how can i do it
[07:35] <threethirty> hi i am having trouble connecting to a bridgemaxx wimax modem in interpid anyone have any tips for me?
[07:37] <Zygot> threethirty: what kind of problem? do you know the DHCP pool addees?
[07:37] <RaNdY> Anybody can help me with /etc/hosts ?
[07:38] <Guest75773> hi list
[07:38] <Zygot> threethirty: do you know the gateway addee?
[07:38] <threethirty> Zygot:i have a an adress its in the 10. range
[07:39] <Zygot> threethirty: <IP_ADDRESS> is the gateway?
[07:39] <nutty> 2
[07:39] <Guest75773> I have some questions on setup of webserver using virtualmin - anyone here to help?
[07:39] <Kartagis> !anybody | RaNdY
[07:40] <threethirty> Zygot: the ip i have is <IP_ADDRESS> the broadcast is <IP_ADDRESS> are those useful?
[07:41] <Zygot> threethirty: looks like you are connected?
[07:41] <cyphase> is there some way i can tell nautilus to copy/move a file from an external script/program?
[07:41] <bary_> How do I unmute the capture line-in sound?
[07:41] <threethirty> Zygot: yeah but it wont resolve any pages
[07:41] <cyphase> perhaps from the console, or via DBus
[07:42] <Zygot> threethirty: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:43] <threethirty> Zygot: i can oing <IP_ADDRESS> with no packet loss
[07:43] <threethirty> ping rather
[07:43] <Zygot> threethirty: ok, what is the nameserver listed in /etc/resolv.conf?
[07:44] <threethirty> Zygot: <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:45] <Zygot> threethirty: can you ping those?
[07:46] <threethirty> Zygot: no "connect: Network is unreachable"
[07:46] <Wille_eee> bary_» Try using your mixer settings
[07:46] <jones-> Hi!
[07:46] <bary_> Wille_eee> already did, thanks
[07:46] <fortunachris> hi there
[07:47] <Guest75773> in setting up my webserver (ubuntu Hardy) I need to isntall a SSL certificate - how do I do this. this is a dedicated server with 1 IP, and hosting multiple domains
[07:47] <jones-> After unlocking my desktop this morning, I noticed that the keyboard layout had mysteriously changed. I go and fix it, and realize that the right CTRL key and the arrow keys don't work!
[07:47] <bary_> Wille_eee> alsamixer too it keeps muting again?
[07:47] <jones-> All was fine yesterday night when I locked it, and I didn't upgrade anything.
[07:47] <jones-> I literally didn't do anything :) Any suggestions?
[07:48] <jones-> Also the AltGr key seems to behave oddly.
[07:48] <jones-> AltGr = Left arrow!
[07:48] <Zygot> threethirty: if you want to edit the file and put in <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> but that will change on next lease
[07:49] <aneptun> Hello everybody! Can someone help me with something in Ubuntu?Private Me.Thank you very much!
[07:49] <threethirty> Zygot: how are you comming up with those ips so i can guess next lease?
[07:49] <quibbler> i have a few hundred mp3ś with names like  001 - the group - title.mp3, (the numbers and the first -)  I want to get rid of in each name and keep the rest can i do this from the terminal?
[07:50] <ruben23> hi i installed ubuntu intrepid desktop on my acer 4730Z my only problem is i cannot installed my web cam....
[07:50] <Zygot> threethirty: those are for open dns service, thew will be overwritten next time you acquire a dhcp lease
[07:50] <bouma> wow i just had several crashes
[07:50] <bouma> could i describe them to anyone ?
[07:50] <Zygot> th
[07:51] <threethirty> Zygot: ahh i should have known that, i use them on my other connection :P is there a way to force my computer to use openDNS or will it reset every lease
[07:52] <hateball> quibbler❥ you could do that with a script, but easytag can do it for you with a gui
[07:52] <threethirty> Zygot: and do i need to restart anything to have those settings take effect?
[07:52] <rehman> hi every body.
[07:52] <rehman> can any one help me on konqueror?
[07:53] <Zygot> threethirty: you can go in on a static connection, that is easiest, but dhcp should configure your dns for you, did you rerun - sudo dhclient wlan0 - or some such?
[07:53] <hateball> !anyone | rehman
[07:53] <threethirty> Zygot: no i havent
[07:54] <Zygot> threethirty: whatever the interface is? dhclient should find your dns.
[07:54] <threethirty> Zygot: kool
[07:54] <quibbler> hateball, i have never made a script ... and I thank you for the easytag suggestion , I will look into that.
[07:54] <rehman> I am just trying to deliver the question.
[07:54] <Zygot> threethirty: anyway, you see the problem now.
[07:54] <hateball> quibbler❥ I figured as much, hence suggesting easytag :)
[07:54] <rehman> if some one understands
[07:54] <Titan8990> !ask | rehman
[07:54] <threethirty> Zygot: yeah
[07:55] <rehman> ubottu, ok
[07:56] <rehman> Titan, Konqueror is not opening any page, instead it changes the icon in address bar.
[07:56] <Zygot> threethirty: just reconnect and it should fix.
[07:56] <Titan8990> rehman, I know nothing about konqueror, I was just trying to help you get help from someone else, by stating your question clearly
[07:56] <quibbler> hateball, an astute man
[07:57] <rehman> ok
[07:58] <threethirty> Zygot: its still not connecting, i dont know why this is so bloody hard, its an ehternet interface, what magic could they be doing?
[07:58] <rehman> Does any body know how to configure konqueror? not browsing.
[07:58] <psypher246> hiall, is there anyone here who can help me with adhoc wireless setups. thanks
[08:00] <iulianpojar> psypher246: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/tag/adhoc-wireless-network-setup-ubuntu
[08:00] <rehman> Does any body know how to configure konqueror? not browsing.
[08:00] <ruben23> hi i installed ubuntu intrepid desktop on my acer 4730Z my only problem is i cannot installed my web cam....
[08:00] <Zygot> threethirty: you reacquired a lease and the /etc/resolv.conf is the same? their dns down?
[08:01] <threethirty> Zygot: i hope not, this is my first day with it, i just bought the damn thing
[08:02] <rehman> Does any body know how to configure konqueror? not browsing.
[08:02] <Zygot> threethirty: edit the /etc/resolv.conf file and change the numbers to open dns just long enough to see if it works
[08:03] <ill> Anyone know if Ubuntu 8.10 has any compatibility issues with Radeon 4850x2?
[08:03] <iulianpojar> psypher246: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[08:03] <threethirty> Zygot: i did that and its acting just as it did, and i doubt opendns, live.com, google, and yahoo are all down
[08:04] <threethirty> Zygot: i think im gonna give up for the night, thanks for your help
[08:04] <rehman> Does any body know how to configure konqueror? not browsing.
[08:04] <Zygot> threethirty: you put <IP_ADDRESS> in resolv.conf?
[08:04] <threethirty> Zygot: yeah i did
[08:05] <Zygot> I'm thinking the modem is not connected to your provider
[08:05] <threethirty> Zygot: it just over wrote, i must have released in the time we were pounding on it
[08:06] <ruben23> anybody have ideas
[08:07] <cMad_> does anyone use the fullsize apple wired keyboard?
[08:07] <Zygot> threethirty: although those look like bridge numbers? It will overwrite.
[08:08] <psypher246> iulianpojar: i have laready set it up, my problem is a little more complex. after about a 30 mins or an hour of connection suddenly the connection is terrible. the 2 laptops are right next to each other and get a 3ms ping there is no traffic. create ANY kind of load, small or large and pings shoot up to 20SECONDS! crazy!
[08:08] <threethirty> Zygot: yeah, im totally confused now ( its 4am localtime) i think ill sleep on this and try again tomorrow, thanks
[08:08] <Zygot> threethirty: OK, bye
[08:08] <iceroot>  anyone getting an open port with "nmap -p 389 alpha-unix.de"?
[08:08] <psypher246> iulianpojar: btw one laptop is the dell mini with preinstalled 8.04 and the other 8.10 x64
[08:08] <psypher246> also dell, m6300
[08:09] <iulianpojar> psypher246: problems with drivers
[08:13] <psypher246> iulianpojar: and those sites, which i have already read before, are useless cos they don't mention that to get this working properly you HAVE to install dnsmasq-base AND that ubuntu page is actually completely irrelevant as /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager stop  does not work as there are NO files in /etc/dbus-1/event.d/
[08:13] <ruben23> hi if i have existing program on my centos server installed through yum then plan to upgrade it to a newer version...what step would i take...
[08:13] <psypher246> iulianpojar: k so how do i fix them?
[08:14] <psypher246> iulianpojar: know any work arounds?
[08:14] <tomcyl> hi, all
[08:14] <ruben23> i tried to update...samething no newer version is installed....
[08:15] <tomcyl> anybody know , ubuntu can make web site?
[08:15] <dave84> Hello, Could anybody please give any assistance with ATI Radeon drivers on Hardy... I've been through forums and sites, just had a quick question or two where I can get a realtime response :)
[08:16] <MenZa> !ati | dave84
[08:16] <aneptun> it is a difference between virtualbox and virtual box -ose?
[08:16] <Baconizer> yes
[08:16] <aneptun> what difference?
[08:16] <Baconizer> OSE = Open Source Edition
[08:16] <dave84> thanks, checking it now.
[08:16] <MenZa> aneptun: The non-OSE version has  few more features, but alas, isn't open source.
[08:16] <iulianpojar> psypher246: look in the  logs and see who of the notebooks is giving you problems
[08:16] <Baconizer> meaning the OSE is better :P
[08:17] <psypher246> iulianpojar: any logs i shiould specifically look at, messages, kernelm, debug...
[08:19] <iulianpojar> psypher246: tail /var/log/messages , and wait untill it hapens
[08:19] <huwenfeng> how to delete the Evolution from my Ubuntu 8.04 LTS?
[08:19] <huwenfeng> i hate it ,  i never use it!
[08:20] <cast> huwenfeng: open up your package manager and remove it, i presume
[08:20] <MenZa> r/w 30
[08:21] <psypher246> iulianpojar: thanks
[08:21] <stefodnb> Hi
[08:21] <MenZa> Hello, stefodnb
[08:21] <stefodnb> How do I downgrade subversion from 1.5.1 to 1.3.2?
[08:21] <stefodnb> (compatibility problems)
[08:22] <cast> stefodnb: hmm, i'd suggest installing 1.3.2 in /usr/local,
[08:23] <stefodnb> and have 2 coexisting versions? sounds messy, no?
[08:23] <ill> Anyone know if Ubuntu 8.10 has any compatibility issues with Radeon 4850x2?
[08:23] <cast> not as messy as having 1.3 installed but all the rest of the packages for your release expecting 1.4 or 1.5
[08:23] <tomcyl> anyone know why my NVIDIA ACCELERATED driver can not activate? do i need to change the card?
[08:24] <cast> stefodnb: hmm, in what way are you using svn?
[08:24] <stefodnb> cast: ok, I was thinking my system had a requirement for something like svn >= 1.1, svn <= 1.5.1
[08:24] <c7m> it didn't work for me O_o
[08:25] <stefodnb> cast: Well we are developing software, I have a working copy which I edit and commit
[08:25] <stefodnb> cast: so other people on my team can get the changes. Normal stuff..
[08:25] <c7m> download driver from nvidia and install via console
[08:25] <c7m> nothing with your card i guess
[08:25] <cast> stefodnb: hmm, OT: ever used a distributed rcs? :)
[08:26] <stefodnb> cast: Nope. Coworkers are still struggling to switch from emailing diffs around, I'm keeping it as simple as possible. dvcs requires that one knows what hes doing.
[08:27] <cast> stefodnb: what compatibility issue are you running into? might be another way around it, if you let 1.5 touch your repo it may automagically upgrade it so 1.3 can't read it
[08:29] <stefodnb> cast: yeah, that seems to be what happened. Coworker using 1.3 fails to "svn up" a repo i touched with 1.5
[08:29] <stefodnb> it seems he's going to upgrade and i won't be downgrading, anyway.
[08:29] <cast> that's probably the better way to go about it :)
[08:30] <stefodnb> yeah if it's possible. i wasn't sure if his ubuntu 6.06 can support a recent svn version.
[08:30] <cast> i don't keep track of their changes between releases anymore, but i presume they would have fixed at least a few bugs between 1.3 and 1.5
[08:30] <cast> stefodnb: i'd very much expect one to be able to install subversion on it
[08:31] <stefodnb> i said a _recent_ svn, i.e. 1.5.1
[08:31] <cast> ahh, sorry, i meant recent svn :)
[08:32] <stefodnb> ah, cool.
[08:32] <prasot> k
[08:32] <cast> i don't have svn installed as i'm short on space, but i do pull from svn:// with hg often :) hmm, wonder how much ci support there is for hg/git to svn
[08:34] <stefodnb> do you mean using a bridge like git-svn, or natively from git?
[08:35] <Kimi> HI
[08:35] <Kimi> If i use guided use entire disk option for a 40gb hard disk... will it erase all the 40 gb and install .............. or it will completely delte the C drive alone ?????
[08:36] <Kimi> iMatter are you there ?
[08:37] <cast> stefodnb: either or
[08:38] <user_> Kimi: it will delete everything on the harddisk, C-Drive (of Windows) and any other drives (D,E..) as well
[08:38] <Kimi> ok user_
[08:38] <stefodnb> cast: looks like the svn1.5 .deb requires a newer libc than available in ubuntu6.06
[08:40] <Ranakah> 5.1 sound don't work in ubuntu intrepid?
[08:40] <cast> stefodnb: very likely, you can either [as you may have] look for a backport, see if you can build the .deb src package on 6.06, or make your own .deb for 6.06, or do the ol ./configure make make install
[08:40] <cast> stefodnb: is work standardised on 6.06?
[08:40] <DasEi> Ranakah: it does, what a comp ? also see :
[08:40] <DasEi> !alsa
[08:40] <Ranakah> my soundcard is nvidia soundstorm on abit nf7-2 rev 2.0 (nforce 2 chiposet)
[08:40] <Lint01> where can I find ext3 data structures specifications?
 anyone know why my NVIDIA ACCELERATED driver can not activate? do i need to change the card?
[08:41] <bouma_> quit
[08:41] <hotbeefhero> hey new to linux, using xubuntu, trying to transfer files onto a external hdd, allowed me to transfer onto the pc but wont let mew copy them back off
[08:41] <Ranakah> it's alsa selected.. and i hear sound only from front
[08:41] <mm2000> Hi there, is there a way to adduser and pass username and password as arguments?
[08:41] <DasEi> Lint01:wikipedia
[08:42] <cast> mm2000: i'm going to look at the man page, i think there is.
[08:42] <ShackTiDe> Hi all. I need some help about the USB automounter. I need to pass an option to the automounted USB devices like "shortname=winnt". Where do I put this???????????
[08:42] <rehman> Ubottu: can you help me on konqueror?
[08:42] <DasEi> Ranakah: configured alsa ? how many sliders ? pcm risen, too ?
[08:42] <kraut> moin
[08:42] <Titan8990> mm2000, use useradd instead of adduser
[08:42] <cast> mm2000: man useradd has such an option
[08:43] <mm2000> ok, ty
[08:43] <Titan8990> mm2000, adduser is interactive whereas useradd can be more automated, but careful because I misconfigured user account can be pretty worthless
[08:43] <xangua1> ubottu: update to jaunty ?
[08:43] <Ranakah> i try all with this sliders... turn on some and turn of.. i think i need drivers for this soundcard... but i don't know where i can get it
[08:43] <DasEi>  !brain
[08:43] <cast> mm2000: if it's for remote uses, could forgo the passwords all together and just send them a ssh secret key :)
[08:43] <zaggynl> hiya, can I disable sound using boot options on ubuntu 8.10 livecd?
[08:43] <Kimi> !brains
[08:44] <DasEi> Ranakah: also, are the icons above the slidrs green (unmuted?)
[08:44] <ShackTiDe> Anybody familiar with Ubuntu's automount option??
[08:44] <zaggynl> !bootoptions
[08:44] <Ranakah> DasEi yes
[08:45] <Lint01> DasEi: nope
[08:45] <hotbeefhero> Titan8990: can you help me with setting permissions on an external hdd? i desperately need to copy files to it
[08:46] <Titan8990> hotbeefhero, just use sudo
[08:46] <Lint01> where can I find ext3 data structures specifications?
[08:47] <thelinuxN00b> what is sudo?
[08:47] <Titan8990> !sudo | thelinuxN00b
[08:47] <eqisow2> Lint01: This isn't really the right channel for that
[08:47] <voice5sur5> thelinuxN00b, sudo is to get you root permitions
[08:47] <thelinuxN00b> thanx heaps
[08:47] <user_> Lint01: browse the source or google. you seem to have the right keywords already
[08:48] <voice5sur5> i have a problem, i can't shutdown my linux
[08:48] <cast> if you can't find anything for ext3, look for ext2, since there's not mcuh difference
[08:48] <coulix> Hi, if anyone has some xp setting up bind9 i got some weird errors: http://dpaste.com/18861/
[08:48] <voice5sur5> it stack at unmounting temporary filesystem
[08:48] <cast> voice5sur5: what have you tried?
[08:48] <voice5sur5> i cant reboot but i can't shutdown
[08:48] <voice5sur5> i can*
[08:49] <voice5sur5> when i shutdown it finish process then when it says Unmounting temporary filesystem it stay like that
[08:49] <DasEi> Lint01:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext_3
[08:49] <voice5sur5> in tty
[08:49] <Peter[i]> Hi, does anyone know if its possible to send html mail from claws?
[08:50] <voice5sur5> any idea?
[08:50] <n2diy> voice5sur5: will you answer cast's question?
[08:50] <voice5sur5> n2diy, i don't understand
[08:50] <voice5sur5> ?
[08:50] <n2diy> voice5sur5: what command are you using?
[08:51] <voice5sur5> normal shutdown from application but its does the same thing with halt or shutdown
[08:51] <DasEi> Ranakah: what does that mean, only front, the physical front of the box or  just 2channel instead of f.e. surround ?
[08:51] <Lint01> DasEi: there's no data structures described there
[08:51] <voice5sur5> the only way is forced shutdown that risk data corruption
[08:52] <n2diy> voice5sur5: what command are you using?
[08:52] <voice5sur5> halt or shutdown
[08:52] <DasEi> Lint01: what to wanto to know ? better a #linux question
[08:52] <DasEi> do*
[08:52] <voice5sur5> or normal shutdown from gui
[08:52] <Ranakah> DasEi only front channels in sorround system.. only if i turn on "Duplicate front" then i hear some sound from rear and center.. but is only stereo then not sorround
[08:53] <voice5sur5> n2diy, ??
[08:53] <n2diy> voice5sur5: have you tried "shutdown -h now" in a terminal?
[08:54] <voice5sur5> -h stand for what?
[08:54] <n2diy> voice5sur5:  you'll need to sudo that
[08:54] <stefodnb> halt
[08:54] <cedric30> Salut
[08:54] <voice5sur5> the halt command doesn't work too
[08:54] <voice5sur5> the only one is poweroff -f
[08:54] <voice5sur5> which risk data corruption
[08:54] <iulianpojar> salutare
[08:54] <n2diy> voice5sur5: have you tried "sudo shutdown -h now" in a terminal?
[08:55] <voice5sur5> n2diy, yes
[08:55] <voice5sur5> the problem is not the command
[08:55] <voice5sur5> but the cause
[08:55] <voice5sur5> the unmounting thing
[08:55] <n2diy> voice5sur5:  and that didn't work!?!?
[08:55] <voice5sur5> why does it block then
[08:55] <voice5sur5> i does
[08:55] <cast> the fs in question is /tmp?
[08:55] <voice5sur5> i said the only working command is poweroff -f
[08:56] <voice5sur5> cast, ?
[08:56] <voice5sur5> what do you mean
[08:56] <gaojinjun> i
[08:56] <n2diy> ! init
[08:57] <cast> well, it's stuck unmounting you said
[08:57] <IceyBlack> Hi all
[08:57] <voice5sur5> yes c
[08:57] <cast> hello IceyBlack
[08:57] <voice5sur5> cast,
[08:57] <IceyBlack> i cannot open a .pps document
[08:57] <sei> Hello
[08:57] <IceyBlack> i dont know why
[08:57] <cast> IceyBlack: hmm, openoffice won't?
[08:57] <IceyBlack> yep
[08:57] <cast> IceyBlack: do you know what version of office created it?
[08:58] <cast> IceyBlack: i found issues optioning the latest travesty of a spreadsheet format from office a few months ago
[08:58] <IceyBlack> i try now to see version
[08:58] <voice5sur5> no solution to my problem?
[08:58] <Mr-BibsoN> † :-))) †
[08:58] <IceyBlack> my .pps doc is open and after 1 sec close
[08:58] <adda> neatza all:*
[08:59] <IceyBlack> neatza adda
[08:59] <n2diy> cast, what was the spread sheet issue?
[08:59] <cedric30> Why when I try to compile my source "gcc -I/usr/include/ file.c", it returns this error "error:  stdio.h : No file.." It is not the "-I" option to include the header directory?
[08:59] <DasEi> Ranakah: sorry for my pause, I just had to boot another box I have it running; kmix let's you set it, I don't use 5.1 on ubuntu, but kmix should install there, too
[08:59] <cast> IceyBlack: hmm, open up a terminal and type "openoffice asdf.pps" and see what the error is, if there is one
[08:59] <IceyBlack> cast ok
[08:59] <cast> n2diy: nothing knew how to open it. i think it was a office open xml thingy, .xls
[08:59] <IceyBlack> wait
[08:59] <cast> n2diy: sorry, .xxls, or something
[09:00] <DasEi> Ranakah: is your soundcard shown correctly in alsamixergui ?
[09:00] <adda>  .  /:)
[09:00] <ScrowMABTW> Hello all
[09:00] <IceyBlack> xx.pps not recovered yet
[09:00] <cast> ahh, .xlsx!
[09:00] <n2diy> cast, what created it?
[09:01] <adda> IceyBlack prv me
[09:01] <IceyBlack> and after i press recover open pps again and after one second is crushing again
[09:01] <adda> plz
[09:01] <ScrowMABTW> I loaded file sharing on my Ubuntu box, and I can connect from my windows laptop, but when I play video files on the windows box, I only get audio! What's wrong?
[09:01] <cast> n2diy: office 2k7 i believe
[09:01] <cast> ScrowMABTW: whereas, when you copy the videos over they play fine?
[09:01] <ScrowMABTW> Oh I hadn't tried that... what i did
[09:02] <IceyBlack> cast
[09:02] <ScrowMABTW> The files are all stored on the Ubuntu box
[09:02] <ScrowMABTW> I can connect to the drive from the windows box
[09:02] <n2diy> cast, the new release of Win?
[09:02] <ScrowMABTW> But I cannot get video to work, just the audio portion
[09:02] <cast> voice5sur5: i've got no idea bro, how exactly the shutdown process works is beyond me. it's always 'just worked' for me,
[09:03] <cast> ScrowMABTW: well we need to isolate it down, is it related to ubuntu at all, the best way to do that would be to have ubuntu not involved in the process at all
[09:03] <ScrowMABTW> They all play fine on the Ubuntu box. They are just AVI files
[09:03] <IceyBlack> maybe i must install a new extension or something?
[09:03] <IceyBlack> or it is that possible?
[09:03] <cast> ScrowMABTW: most of the time it's a codec issue
[09:03] <tomcyl> my ubuntu got too many problem , any way i can reset it back to normal?
[09:03] <ScrowMABTW> But they are just AVI files and I am using Windows Media Player...
[09:03] <cast> ScrowMABTW: grab mplayer, or vlc, for windows :) WMP shit
[09:04] <ScrowMABTW> But why would WMP not work?
[09:04] <cast> ScrowMABTW: avi is just a container format, it could have a video stream encoded with one of several video codecs
[09:04] <tomcyl> hello all.
[09:04] <tomcyl> help
[09:04] <ScrowMABTW> I see...
[09:04] <cast> n2diy: no, MS Office 2007
[09:05] <ScrowMABTW> How do I get other codecs?
[09:05] <IceyBlack> any clue with my .pps extension?
[09:05] <ScrowMABTW> I hate this damn version of Windows
[09:05] <cast> i do not use windows, or wmp ;)
[09:05] <DasEi> ScrowMABTW: use vlc player
[09:05] <cast> IceyBlack: if open office is failing you, you could look for another program that opens .pps
[09:05] <tomcyl> windows? not ubuntu?
[09:05] <n2diy> cast, ok, I thought you meant Win 7, sorry no clue here.
[09:05] <DasEi> ScrowMABTW: how did you connect ? samba ?
[09:05] <simplexio> ScrowMABTW: or mplayer. it has all needed codecs
[09:05] <IceyBlack> cast like what?
[09:06] <ScrowMABTW> Samba
[09:06] <cast> IceyBlack: and if you get really desperate, you could run office
[09:06] <IceyBlack> cast i tryied soffice -show file.pps  too
[09:06] <IceyBlack> but same error
[09:06] <cast> IceyBlack: kde might have something, not sure
[09:06] <IceyBlack> ok tnx aneway mate
[09:06] <DasEi> ScrowMABTW: check with a usb stick the direct copy as mentioned above, then use a including player ^
[09:07] <IceyBlack> it was an e-mail attachament,i hope is note a naked hot girl slide show ;)
[09:07] <bman> ivirii
[09:08] <DasEi> Ranakah: is your soundcard shown correctly in alsamixergui ?
[09:08] <Ranakah> yes DasE1
[09:09] <ScrowMABTW> Downloading the CCCP
[09:09] <cast> IceyBlack: i have noticed people embedding videos in .pps, :\
[09:09] <Ranakah> i need drivers for nvidia soundstorm integrated soundcard
[09:09] <IceyBlack> true..
[09:09] <DasE1> Ranakah: sudo apt-get install kmix
[09:09] <Aperculum> To which packet does /usr/dict/words belong to, I'd like to install it
[09:10] <ScrowMABTW> Damn it!
[09:10] <cast> Aperculum: you can search for file names in packages
[09:10] <ScrowMABTW> I can't install without admin on this comp
[09:11] <cast> Aperculum: the ubuntu package website probably has such a feature, apt-file does
[09:11] <cast> ScrowMABTW: you can get just a .zip of mplayer, that needs no install
[09:11] <DasE1>  !sudo > ScrowMABTW
[09:11] <Aperculum> cast, I know but I don't know the command, I'm searching for it but I'd hope someone knew right away
[09:12] <cast> Aperculum: i could know right away, but it's more useful in the long term to teach you ;P\
[09:12] <Ranakah> DasE1 kmix.. i have gnome not kde
[09:12] <Ranakah> ?
[09:12] <Riya> sir how can i use cin and cout key word in ubuntu which lib i download ?
[09:12] <Aperculum> cast, yes, I know, thank you anyway :)
[09:13] <cast> Riya: install g++
[09:13] <cast> Riya: i'm presuming you are refering to C++
[09:15] <warnet> grgr
[09:15] <Riya> ya i installed g++ but i cant use cin and cout in c++ i am using Geany editor .
[09:15] <warnet> haloooo
[09:16] <cast> Riya: so when it comes time to compile what happens?
[09:16] <ScrowMABTW> No luck with the mplayer zip
[09:16] <L3dPlatedLinux>  yeah I guess with linux mint I should have just installed ubuntu so I think I might try sabayon
[09:16] <ScrowMABTW> I run it and it opens a little box, a bunch of text scrolls, and it closes
[09:16] <cast> Riya: libstdc++6-4.3-dev: /usr/include/c++/4.3/iostream
[09:16] <simplexio> ScrowMABTW: start it from console and see what is error
[09:17] <thelinuxN00b> <your user name here> ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL this  command not working in sudo, do i have the command wrong, trying to get root as user
[09:17] <ScrowMABTW> I don't understand
[09:17] <cast> Riya: they might be defined in that file, dunno, i don't do C++
[09:17] <cast> simplexio: the windows console, even
[09:17] <Riya> how can i install libstdc++6-4.3
[09:18] <ScrowMABTW> Oh ok
[09:18] <cast> thelinuxN00b: did you use visudo?
[09:18] <ScrowMABTW> Error is
[09:18] <thelinuxN00b> yes
[09:18] <ScrowMABTW> No codecs
[09:19] <thelinuxN00b> hold that thought i think i may have got root
[09:19] <DasE1> Ranakah:do you have sliders for the other channels but the main stereo ones ?
[09:19] <DasE1> do ?
[09:20] <Ranakah> default not
[09:20] <Ranakah> DasE1 not default..only if i turn it on
[09:20] <Riya> how can i install libstdc++6-4.3
[09:21] <thelinuxN00b> still wont let me copy. in terminal it has at start root@myusername-laptop:-#
[09:21] <cast> is it an NTFS drive thelinuxN00b?
[09:21] <thelinuxN00b> the external is yes
[09:22] <cast> i've noticed, with that particular crapware of a fs, that if it's in an unclean state some linux ntfs rw projects will refuse to mount it rw
[09:22] <Kimi> my frnd tells that Star office is owned by sun microsys.... then what about open office ?? are both the same or what ??????
[09:22] <thelinuxN00b> the laptop hdd is fat 32
[09:22] <cast> what does the output of 'mount' say for that drive?
[09:22] <ScrowMABTW> GRR
[09:22] <ScrowMABTW> Says there is no "codec.conf" file
[09:22] <DasE1> Ranakah: if you s-card is shown correctly,it's not a driver,but a settings problem, gnome-alsamixer is installedyou say, and I dont't find and equivalent for kmix else; did you try system > preferences > sound > something like iec blahblah  output ?
[09:23] <cast> ScrowMABTW: might be time to give up on windows, ;)
[09:23] <thelinuxN00b> how do i check that please cast
[09:23] <cast> thelinuxN00b: i just told you.
[09:23] <abhishekiitd007> hey anyone here?
[09:23] <abhishekiitd007> i need help!
[09:23] <thelinuxN00b> whoops
[09:23] <abhishekiitd007> hello
[09:23] <abhishekiitd007> anyone ?
[09:23] <DasE1>  !ask
[09:23] <abhishekiitd007> @ubottu
[09:23] <abhishekiitd007> ok
[09:24] <ScrowMABTW> I want to, but my gf wont let me remove it from her computer
[09:24] <abhishekiitd007> I want to install nvidia on my ubuntu hardy
[09:24] <abhishekiitd007> and i some how installed it
[09:24] <cast> ScrowMABTW: dual boot is handy
[09:24] <abhishekiitd007> but my graphics havent improved at all
[09:25] <ScrowMABTW> I just need something that works and doesnt require an install
[09:25] <abhishekiitd007> what can i do?
[09:25] <thelinuxN00b> i have typed mount into terminal, it doesnt seem to have any info on the external it has been detected and i can copy from it but not to
[09:25] <mid_> hello everybody.. after a reboot (no updates involved) my sound card suddenly doesnt work anymore.. I have a samsung nc10, kernel 2.6.27-11, sound card Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)... any hint??
[09:25] <cast> ScrowMABTW: well, i can only offer ubuntu related solutions to your windows problem :D
[09:25] <abhishekiitd007> I want to install nvidia on my ubuntu hardy    and i some how installed it      but my graphics havent improved at all
[09:25] <cast> abhishekiitd007: and how did you measure.
[09:26] <abhishekiitd007> cast:measure what?
[09:27] <DasE1> Ranakah:http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1478381&postcount=1
[09:27] <Kimi> my frnd tells that Star office is owned by sun microsys.... then what about open office ?? are both the same or what ??????
[09:27] <abhishekiitd007> cast:well, my screen supports resolutions better than 800
[09:27] <Ranakah> DasE1 tnx :D
[09:27] <abhishekiitd007> cast:*600
[09:27] <cast> Kimi: surely, surely this is described on wikipedia
[09:28] <Kimi> cast ok
[09:28] <abhishekiitd007> cast:i cant use beryl
[09:28] <Kimi> can you just give me link.... or will you ask me to google out ?
[09:28] <Kimi> ok
[09:28] <cast> Kimi: guess. :)
[09:28] <ivanatwork> i need to scan to a pdf
[09:28] <Kimi> cast
[09:28] <Kimi> cast googled///// got the site
[09:28] <abhishekiitd007> cast:how do i exit x server?pressing crt;, alt, f1?
[09:28] <Kimi> cast :P thanks anyway
[09:28] <AnRkey> how can i get permission to use my serial port in 8.04.2?
[09:29] <M_23_LTU> looking for a girl to chat. pls private
[09:29] <cast> i umm, i'm going to go quiet now. good luck all!
[09:29] <ivanatwork> M_23_LTU: good luck ;)
[09:29] <abhishekiitd007> cast:why?
[09:29] <Kimi> cast quick question : is star office still released by sun or they totally stopped it for open off ?
[09:29] <AnRkey> M_23_LTU, wrong place for chatting about that
[09:30] <pogz> how do i convert avi files for my psp?
[09:30] <M_23_LTU> If you are pretty nasty gril, lets chat
[09:30] <ivanatwork> M_23_LTU: lol
[09:30] <prince_jammys> M_23_LTU: stop.
[09:30] <mid_> hello everybody.. after a reboot (no updates involved) my sound card suddenly doesnt work anymore.. I have a samsung nc10, kernel 2.6.27-11, sound card Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)... any hint??
[09:31] <ScrowMABTW> HAHA YES!
[09:31] <Kimi> cast ?? any idea...is star office still released by sun or they totally stooopped it ?
[09:31] <Kimi> for ooo
[09:31] <AnRkey> how can i get permission to use my serial port (/dev/ttyS0) in 8.04.2?
[09:33] <Kimi> cast ?? plz. tell me
[09:33] <hummahumma> hey
[09:33] <ivanatwork> scan to pdf: suggestion?
[09:33] <jude> hey
[09:33] <jude> sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome
[09:33] <jude> sorry
[09:34] <remoteCTRL1> how can i accomplish to see all of the open applications in the taskbar, also those on other workspaces?
[09:34] <hummahumma> how can i exit x server?
[09:34] <AnRkey> ivanatwork, scan it and print directly to virtual pdf printer
[09:34] <remoteCTRL1> hummahumma: ctrl +alt + backspace
[09:34] <AnRkey> hummahumma, ctrl + alt +f2
[09:34] <ivanatwork> AnRkey: I have several pages to scan...
[09:34] <DasE1> Kimi: firsthit on google,this is #ubuntu http://www.openoffice.org/licenses/gpl_license.html 8-)
[09:34] <bman> all yur ubuntu is mine
[09:34] <ortsvorsteher> hummahumma: you want to exit it to get command line? or only restart?
[09:34] <remoteCTRL1> haha
[09:34] <mid_> can anybody PLEASE help me?
[09:34] <AnRkey> hummahumma, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop or start
[09:35] <remoteCTRL1> mid_: with what?
[09:35] <hummahumma> remoteCTRL1:but after that i get a terminal screen asking for login
[09:35] <mid_> hello everybody.. after a reboot (no updates involved) my sound card suddenly doesnt work anymore.. I have a samsung nc10, kernel 2.6.27-11, sound card Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)... any hint??
[09:35] <Kimi> DasE1 i just wanted to know whether Star office is still there and released by sun or they stopped
[09:35] <ortsvorsteher> hummahumma: so try " sudo /etc/init.d/?dm stop"
[09:35] <remoteCTRL1> hummahumma: you completely want to turn it off? sudo  /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:35] <Kimi> DasE1 and its simple to answer "yes" or "no" if you know
[09:35] <Kimi> then why to gooooogle ?
[09:35] <ivanatwork> I need to scan "directly" to PDF. I have several pages
[09:35] <AnRkey> ivanatwork, script it :)
[09:35] <hummahumma> remoteCTRL1:and what should be the reaction to this?not a terminal screen, right?
[09:36] <jude>  who can help me  install this drivers
[09:36] <jude> Installation Guide
[09:36] <jude> 1. install Redhat 9.0
[09:36] <jude> 2. cp sisdrv_430_20040604.o to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/sis_drv.o
[09:36] <jude> 3. make sure the /etc/X11/XF86Config file have the correct "driver" section.
[09:36] <jude>    Drivers "sis"
[09:36] <jude> 4. startx
[09:36] <remoteCTRL1> mid_: what do dmesg and /var/log/system say?
[09:36] <FloodBot1> jude: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:36] <ivanatwork> AnRkey: lol yes, of course
[09:36] <AnRkey> ivanatwork, i know how, soz on the auto part
[09:36] <remoteCTRL1> hummahumma: exactly
[09:36] <AnRkey> :P
[09:36] <DasE1>  !sound|mid_
[09:36] <thelinuxN00b> Hi all having a ongoing problem, have gained root access but still wont let me  copy to a external hdd ntfs format. all the permissions seem to be right but it still wont go any ideas
[09:36] <hummahumma> remoteCTRL1:well, but i keep getting that terminal screen everytime i try to exit x server
[09:37] <AnRkey> ivanatwork, if your scanner supports scan to folder and windows shares then set up a smb share and scan to that
[09:37] <DasE1> thelinuxN00b: single file ?
[09:37] <remoteCTRL1> hummahumma: what terminal screen?
[09:37] <AnRkey> ivanatwork, canon scanners do that for example works well for my clients
[09:37] <thelinuxN00b> whole folder about 30 gig
[09:37] <remoteCTRL1> hummahumma: what are you actually trying to accomplish?
[09:37] <hummahumma> remoteCTRL1:a blank screen asking for my login, after i key taht in, then a password....after which its just a terminal window full screen
[09:37] <thelinuxN00b> DasE1: tried  a single file still didnt work
[09:38] <hummahumma> remoteCTRL1:i am trying to install NVIDIA graphics, which requires x server shutdown
[09:38] <remoteCTRL1> hummahumma: well that is linux running without x-server, isn't that what you wanted?
[09:38] <ivanatwork> AnRkey: i have an Epson Photo, not a network scanner. Too bad I found only gscan2pdf with german (!!) OCR...
[09:38] <DasE1> thelinuxN00b: sudo cp -r  /path/of/folder    /path/to/folder          ,   checkout sudo fdisk -l before to get correct devicenames
[09:38] <mid_> dmesg nothing, and /var/log/system file doesnt exist
[09:38] <AnRkey> hummahumma, try envyng
[09:38] <AnRkey> hummahumma, it does it all from the gui for u in one go
[09:38] <WeazelON> hey guys, i have a few users on the same computer, thing is i want to use screen on a different user and it tells me Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/3' - please check.
[09:38] <remoteCTRL1> hummahumma: depends on whether you do that from within the restricted drivers dialog or if you manually install them
[09:38] <AnRkey> hummahumma, it also downloads the drivers for u
[09:38] <DasE1> thelinuxN00b: external drive is mounted ?
[09:39] <bman> mount that
[09:39] <thelinuxN00b> DasE1: Thanx will give that a go!!!
[09:39] <bman> oh yeah
[09:39] <WeazelON> can anyone shed some light on that matter ?
[09:39] <AnRkey> hummahumma, sudo apt-get install envyng i think
[09:39] <thelinuxN00b> DasE1: not sure it has been detected, fairly new to this
[09:39] <hummahumma> remoteCTRL1:ok, so that terminal screen is linux without x server...?
[09:39] <remoteCTRL1> hummahumma: if you manually install them sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop is the command that you are looking for, execute this from a console which you can access with ctrl+alt+F1 to F6
[09:40] <DasE1> thelinuxN00b: type:                  mount                                                     ,to see all mounted devices
[09:40] <ivanatwork> i'm searching something like gscan2pdf
[09:40] <bman> hummahumma, that is linux
[09:40] <remoteCTRL1> hummahumma: exactly
[09:40] <bman> x isnt required
[09:40] <AnRkey> hummahumma, envy is far easier to use for nvidia and ati drivers
[09:40] <WeazelON> hey guys, i have a few users on the same computer, thing is i want to use     `screen`     on a different user and it tells me " Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/3' - please check. "
[09:40] <hummahumma> AnRkey:can u tell me what exactly is envy?how do i use it?
[09:40] <AnRkey> bman, isn't that dash instead of linux :)
[09:40] <remoteCTRL1> hummahumma: envy imho is bogus like hell, dont recommend that..
[09:40] <AnRkey> hummahumma, it's a gui for installing nvidia and ati drivers
[09:41] <jude> my computer is  old   drivers is sis
[09:41] <thelinuxN00b> DasE1: it appears to be mounted, states at bottom /dev/sdb1 on /media/New Volume type fuseblk (ro,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[09:41] <jude> i can not install the drivers
[09:42] <hummahumma> AnRkey:i was anyway able to install nvidia yesterday, somehow...but i still cant use beryl, nor can i get 1280*760 resolution, only 800*600
[09:42] <bman> ive used linux since 94 and didnt use X until 2002
[09:42] <remoteCTRL1> hummahumma: then you dont really have it running
[09:42] <jude> so  i want know how can i install this drivers
[09:42] <AnRkey> hummahumma, u can use compiz-fusion if the drivers are installed. It's all done for u
[09:42] <ortsvorsteher> !details | jude
[09:42] <bman> its still linux without X
[09:42] <hummahumma> AnRkey:at startup ity gives an error message, "graphics not found, ..configure/cancel, continue"
[09:43] <jude> Installation Guide
[09:43] <jude> 1. install Redhat 9.0
[09:43] <jude> 2. cp sisdrv_430_20040604.o to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/sis_drv.o
[09:43] <jude> 3. make sure the /etc/X11/XF86Config file have the correct "driver" section.
[09:43] <jude>    Drivers "sis"
[09:43] <jude> 4. startx
[09:43] <FloodBot1> jude: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:43] <remoteCTRL1> hummahumma: you are aware that there is a dialog in system/administration called hardware drivers where ubuntu does that for you?
[09:43] <remoteCTRL1> jude: this is an ubuntu channel not a redhat channel
[09:43] <ortsvorsteher> jude: what do you want to install? which ubuntu you have running?
[09:43] <jude> this is Installation Guide
[09:43] <AnRkey> hummahumma, if you read the man entry for envy, there is a text version too that can fix that
[09:43] <hummahumma> howremoteCTRL1:ubuntu does that?does what?configure graphics card?
[09:44] <jude> i use ubuntu 8.10
[09:44] <ortsvorsteher> jude: and what do you want to install?
[09:44] <jude> i only have this drivers cd
[09:44] <remoteCTRL1> hummahumma: install graphics drivers AND configure graphics card
[09:44] <hummahumma> AnkRey:do i need to download envy?
[09:44] <ortsvorsteher> !pm | jude
[09:44] <remoteCTRL1> hummahumma: you might also sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings which is a graphical interface with which you can customize the driver
[09:45] <mid_> no hints?
[09:45] <hummahumma> remoteCTRL:but how can i customise it, if it says it hasnt been installed properly?
[09:45] <remoteCTRL1> how can i accomplish to see all of the open applications in the taskbar, also those on other workspaces?
[09:45] <DasE1> thelinuxN00b: sudo cp -r /dev/path/OrignialFolder  /media/New""Volume/>FlderName<   ,without the <>
[09:45] <hummahumma> remoteCTRL:thought, after installation, it said installing successful
[09:45] <remoteCTRL1> hummahumma: have you already had a look into system/administration/hardware drivers?
[09:46] <hummahumma> remoteCTRL:ok let me boot in ubuntu first
[09:46] <AnRkey> hummahumma, read buddy, i told you earlier, sudo apt-get install envyng-gtk
[09:46] <jude> but my english so bad
[09:46] <thelinuxN00b> DasE1: Thanx heaps will give that a go
[09:46] <remoteCTRL1> hummahumma: well problem might be that if you install the drivers manually you might have to add the drivers name to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:46] <ortsvorsteher> jude: which is your mother language?
[09:46] <DasE1> thelinuxN00b: spaces in directorynames are alittle prob sometimes,you could mount the external to a dir with a contingous name
[09:47] <jude> chinese
[09:47] <ortsvorsteher> !cn | jude
[09:47] <remoteCTRL1> AnRkey: i believe the dude has a little messup there...
[09:47] <nightclaw> hi there, my problem is that pidgin does not update. still showing version 2.5.2-0ubuntu1.1 (intrepid main paket sources selected main,update, proposed, main mirror for germany)
[09:47] <jude> ubotuu
[09:47] <jude> thank you
[09:47] <billawal> evening everybody
[09:48] <remoteCTRL1> nightclaw: you need to enable the backports repository in system/administration/sources
[09:48] <ortsvorsteher> !cookie | ubottu
[09:48] <WeazelON> hey guys, i have a few users on the same computer, thing is i want to use     `screen`     on a different user and it tells me " Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/3' - please check. "
[09:48] <ortsvorsteher> :)
[09:48] <nightclaw> remoteCTRL why backports, kinda makes no sense to me
[09:48] <nightclaw> ill try
[09:48] <WeazelON> if i use SSH to myself i can use screen
[09:49] <fliegenderfrosch> !thanks > jude
[09:49] <remoteCTRL1> nightclaw: you get major updates only on next operrating system upgrade, if you want to have this earlier you need to enable backports
[09:49] <DasE1> nightclaw: update/-grade ; see :
[09:49] <DasE1>  !latest
[09:49] <remoteCTRL1> nightclaw: backport does not mean back to previous versions but back from future versions to this one;)
[09:50] <DasE1> nightclaw: just do  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:50] <remoteCTRL1> DasE1: hat wont fix anything..
[09:51] <Husaini> DasE1 sudo apt-get update is enough for him
[09:52] <DasE1>  remoteCTRL1: I just stepped in with the call for latest pidgin, what's the background ?
[09:52] <b3rz3rk3r> hey all, if i install the 9.04 alpha can i just upgrade to full release via patches when it comes out?
[09:52] <remoteCTRL1> DasE1: well i geuss as usual icq not working with it anymore?
[09:52] <ortsvorsteher> b3rz3rk3r: try in #ubuntu+1
[09:53] <DasE1>  ! jaunty
[09:53] <b3rz3rk3r> ortsvorsteher, thx will do
[09:53] <ortsvorsteher> :)
[09:53] <billawal> hello
[09:54] <nightclaw> ok i'm upgrading, but there was neither pidgin nor libpurple in the do you want to upgrade list
[09:54] <hybr1der> does anyone know a great backup program from which i can backup windows pcs?
[09:55] <goodmen> Hi, who use IEGD driver ?
[09:55] <goodmen> Anyone could help me to config the IEGD driver in xorg.conf ?