[12:08] <RawSewage> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47377&highlight=xmlspy
[12:08] <z00m_> i think it would have been better installing the 32bit version, lets just hope they bring out more 64bit apps
[12:08] <gioacchino> I must remove  wine 0.9.9 and install wine  20030115  ?
[12:08] <ChefWill> anyone know the command line command to show battery life?
[12:09] <RawSewage> gioacchino, maybe ask in #Ubuntu
[12:10] <fek_> ChefWill: cat /proc/acpi/BAT0/state
[12:10] <fek_> or BAT1
[12:10] <gatekeeper> z00m_: got to scoot off, will keep my eye out for you, sorry I was unable to help
[12:11] <z00m_> hey no worries friend, you did help me find out that there is not an amd64 version ... lol
[12:11] <z00m_> :D
[12:11] <z00m_> gatekeeper: take care speak later ;)
[12:12] <gatekeeper> z00m_: you take care too speak later :-)
[12:12] <actinic> no sound in UT ... 'open /dev/[sound/] dsp: Device or resource busy' <---error message
[12:12] <actinic> anyone experience this?
[12:12] <crimsun> actinic: make sure nothing has grabbed /dev/*dsp* prior to your executing UT.
[12:12] <actinic> how?
[12:12] <crimsun> lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[12:13] <actinic> and if so?
[12:13] <crimsun> kill those processes.
[12:13] <actinic> killall artsd worked
[12:14] <actinic> why in Kubuntu?  Never a prob  in Ubuntu
[12:14] <tron_> i need help. i cant get easyubuntu to download, it keeps getting 404 errors
[12:14] <Ashex> does anyone else have issues with youtube and the sound lagging?
[12:14] <actinic> maybe easyubuntu is down?
[12:14] <gioacchino> how to get Wine 20030115  ????????????
[12:15] <gioacchino> I searc it but I found wine 0.9.16
[12:16] <Ashex> who needs easyubuntu?
[12:17] <tron_> i do
[12:17] <RawSewage> I dont have Flash installed now, but when I did, YouTube sound lagged
[12:17] <tron_> i keep getting 404 errors
[12:17] <tron_> and package not found
[12:18] <Ashex> Download easyubuntu from here: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/~ahmed/easyubuntu.tar.gz
[12:18] <Ashex> I threw it on my server for ya
[12:18] <tron_> thanx
[12:19] <tron_> do i just get everything there?
[12:19] <Ashex> download that file and extract the contents
[12:19] <actinic> 404 error: server is down
[12:19] <actinic> that's always the case
[12:20] <Ashex> and then in konsole run python easyubuntu.py
[12:20] <Ashex> and you'll be up and running
[12:20] <Ashex> if you want to distribute that link use http://local.chipnick.com/~ahmed/easyubuntu.tar.gz
[12:21] <tron_> what do i type to run python?
[12:21] <tron_> run python easyubuntu.py?
[12:21] <Ashex> python
[12:21] <Ashex> :P
[12:23] <erov> digg.com still aligns text to the left too much.. although the font is changed (and it looks sickly)
[12:23] <erov> i preferred the dejavu sans
[12:23] <gioacchino> how to istall a tar.bz2 ??
[12:23] <sensei> You don't
[12:24] <h3sp4wn> gioacchino: pbuilder can take a tar.bz2 and make a package
[12:24] <erov> which it says it still is but.. argh.. those msttcorefonts made everything look really bad in konqueror
[12:24] <RawSewage> sorry
[12:24] <gioacchino> how to istall a tar.bz2  with tar command??
[12:25] <erov> heh no problem at least someone gave me a try
[12:25] <gioacchino> tar -xvf ?
[12:25] <RawSewage> you can uninstall them
[12:25] <erov> and you say it appears fine in your Konq right?
[12:25] <erov> yeah i know
[12:25] <erov> <-- doing :D
[12:25] <RawSewage> www.digg.com only shows me a header logo.  I cant even see the page
[12:25] <Ashex> tar zxvf
[12:25] <erov> thats probably because for some reason the entire page is blocked by the default strings konqueror filters
[12:25] <koriel> I'm getting an error that cdrecord don't have permissions to open the device....
[12:26] <erov> in it's "ad filter" section .. thats what happened to me anyways
[12:26] <RawSewage> oh
[12:26] <Ashex> bleh, konqueror is like the equivelant of IE IMO
[12:26] <RawSewage> I love Konqueror
[12:26] <Ashex> It works well, but it hates me I guess
[12:27] <erov> i do too.. only problem ive ever had with it
[12:27] <tron_> ok, im an idiot, i cant get this easyubuntu installed
[12:27] <erov> is this .. when digg upgraded their page.. with even more css
[12:27] <ahmet_> Multisession DVD mount problem
[12:27] <RawSewage> I disabled adblocker so I can look
[12:27] <gioacchino> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format  no gx but bz2
[12:27] <tron_> i extracted it all and now i cant figure out how to run it
[12:27] <RawSewage> erov, are you talking about the yellow box overlappping the title
[12:27] <erov> yes
[12:27] <ahmet_> i do not DVDR1660P1 mount
[12:28] <erov> minor annoyance but the problem exists doesnt it?? the kde bugs list had people disagreeing and saying it looks fine on theirs
[12:28] <RawSewage> hm
[12:28] <omeow> RawSewage: I only have a sligt misalignment problem. (And it takes quite a long time to load the page.)
[12:28] <omeow> I'll stick with Opera, thank you. ;)
[12:28] <erov> yes its slight but it exists.. thats all im trying to verify
[12:28] <RawSewage> erov, well, you werent seeing things, if thats any consolation
[12:28] <erov> yes thank you ! :D
[12:29] <erov> it's got to be a khtml css rendering problem
[12:29] <erov> minor but it is
[12:29] <ahmet_> how mulsession dvd mount
[12:29] <erov> i'll re-open the bug session, thanks
[12:29] <RawSewage> erov, could be a Kubuntu thing
[12:29] <erov> true
[12:29] <omeow> I doubt it.
[12:30] <erov> im gonna do some playing
[12:30] <omeow> I don't think Kubuntu is changing the KHTML rendering engine for their releases.
[12:30] <RawSewage> Kubuntu messes with Konqueror
[12:30] <omeow> Yes, but with the rendering engine too?
[12:30] <RawSewage> they remove lots of features, to make it easier for Windows idiots
[12:31] <h3sp4wn> What features ?
[12:31] <RawSewage> lots of options, which Ive restored
[12:31] <RawSewage> such as per-folder config
[12:31] <RawSewage> the Go menu
[12:31] <RawSewage> etc
[12:31] <h3sp4wn> Well they are still there then
[12:31] <h3sp4wn> Unless you have rebuilt kde
[12:31] <RawSewage> huh?
[12:31] <RawSewage> oh
[12:31] <RawSewage> yeah, you have to change the .rc file, or whatever
[12:32] <RawSewage> I see what you mean.  same engine though
[12:32] <erov> css is relatively new.. its not unlikely that it is a minor alignment issue .. digg was probably built on/for mozilla/ie anyways.. it may be the result of an IE css hack which backfires on other rendering engines
[12:32] <h3sp4wn> I prefer kcontrol to the system settings
[12:32] <RawSewage> for System settings, I prefer adding  Settings to KMenu
[12:33] <RawSewage> it gives you a nice menu system, with submenus, right from KMenu
[12:33] <koriel> why I'm not able to write cds but I can write dvds...when trying to write a cd I'm getting permission error of cdrecord
[12:36] <adrianoc> i install kubuntu, and install gimp fro "apt-get install", but i wanted to install it in Portuguese, how i make ?
[12:39] <tron_> how do i install easyubuntu once ive downloaded it?
[12:39] <iarwain_ben-adar> hi tron, what kind of file is it?
[12:40] <tron_> python?
[12:40] <tron_> i guess
[12:40] <tron_> i cant pm with you because im not registered
[12:40] <iarwain_ben-adar> isn't there a readme with the download? :D
[12:41] <iarwain_ben-adar> but remember that you use Kubuntu (so you should have Easy Kubuntu ;-) )
[12:41] <tat_> anyone has working read/write access to a ntfs partition in kubuntu ?
[12:41] <tron_> is there an easykubuntu?
[12:42] <iarwain_ben-adar> supposedly, but i did not find it useful
[12:42] <tat_> tron_ : more easy than it is allready ??
[12:42] <arseniq> i know how to use apt-get a little so what is the keyword for gnome?
[12:42] <h3sp4wn> tron_: join #easyubuntu
[12:42] <iarwain_ben-adar> kubuntu-install
[12:42] <tat_> arseniq : do you mean ubuntu-desktop ?
[12:42] <iarwain_ben-adar> :D
[12:42] <iarwain_ben-adar> my bad :D
[12:42] <tron_> h3sp4wn theres no one in there
[12:43] <arseniq> tat_: i think so
[12:43] <arseniq> i saw a screenshot named ubuntu-desktop
[12:43] <arseniq> that i remembered i like gnome more than kde
[12:43] <arseniq> :)
[12:43] <tat_> arseniq : so apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, and you will get the desktop of ubuntu which is gnomew
[12:44] <arseniq> tat_: will i lost the kde?
[12:44] <tat_> so are there any hints for ntfs, kernel version some trick to get it work ??
[12:44] <h3sp4wn> !captive
[12:44] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[12:45] <erov> captive tat_
[12:45] <tat_> arseniq : i don't think so, but the window manager will be changed from kdm to gdm
[12:45] <arseniq> tat_: thanks alot
[12:45] <tat_> erov : i use ntfsmount with fuse, isn't this liek the same ?
[12:46] <erov> i guess, i dont know as i havent used it personally just read the claims of captive-ntfs before i switched.. but when I eventually did I wiped my ntfs drives when I was happy (i know this isnt going to work for you just explaining why i never did ) :P
[12:47] <erov> uses the native dll's from windows right?
[12:51] <amadeus_> i am trying to install kubuntu on an empty partition. i split the partition into two so that i can allocate a root and a swap area. but for some reason the installation program still wants to include my windows partition. can someone help me?
[01:00] <SpAwN> hello all im trying to use nmap.....but i keep gettng this....even though im running it as root http://pastebin.ca/83628
[01:05] <luisandresco> #sltrujillo
[01:06] <z00m_> SpAwN: have you got a firewall setup ?
[01:12] <ChefWill> anyone know if there is a way to flip the desktop?
[01:13] <Murfy^> sure, flip your monitor
[01:13] <ChefWill> ;/
[01:13] <ChefWill> software-based
[01:14] <Murfy^> just curious, why would you want to do that ChefWill?
[01:15] <ChefWill> well the way i have my laptop setup at times id need it flipped the other way to see it right
[01:15] <arseniq> how can i install divx, xvid etc. codecs with apt-get?
[01:26] <mossman> arseniq  try searhing for a program called automatix,  it will load codecs for you
[01:35] <ChefWill> anyone here use the current applications bar?
[01:35] <ChefWill> te mac os x style
[01:39] <tron_> i need help, again... how do i change ownership from root?
[01:39] <Murfy^> chown
[01:40] <tron_> thanx...
[01:41] <tron_> so i just type this: sudo chown user:group?
[01:42] <tron_> do i need to restart after that
[01:43] <KaiHanari> does anyone here know how to send a wake on lan packet?
[01:43] <BluDog_Anchorite> i thought any packet woke it up
[01:44] <KaiHanari> BluDog_Anchorite, if that were the case it would never stay off
[01:44] <Eeyore> if any packet woke it up, every broadcast packet would wake it up
[01:44] <sysrpl> i am having problems compiling glibc ... i am using ../glibc-2.4/configure --prefix=/usr --disable-profile --enable-add-ons --enable-kernel=2.6.0 --libexecdir=/usr/lib/glibc ,,, and then make, but make fails with *** No rule to make target `Versions.all', needed by `abi-versions.h'.  Stop.
[01:44] <sysrpl> can anyone tell me how to fix that?
[01:52] <I_Died_Once> question: adept exited telling me that the packages I was installing caused a conflict, breaking my dependencies
[01:52] <SpAwN> !firewall
[01:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[01:52] <I_Died_Once> I cannot get adept to re-open
[01:52] <I_Died_Once> may day - help
[01:54] <Eeyore> I_Died_Once: what is going on ?
[01:54] <I_Died_Once> I was installing stuff with adept
[01:54] <I_Died_Once> it exited saying an error caused a dependency prob, something to that effect
[01:54] <I_Died_Once> i cant open adept, says the database is locked
[01:55] <TheHighChild> I_Died_Once: sudo dpkg --cofingure -a
[01:56] <Grundee> I have an Nvidia GeForce 7800GT graphics card. I need to use the drivers from nvidia.com in order to use X server (if I do not the screen gets messed up and the program will not exit). When I install Kubuntu I go through the install, reboot, have it configure packages, then start X. It does not work, I reboot in recovery mode to copy drivers from NTFS partition and run them. But I have no compiler to compile them. I download a compi
[01:56] <Grundee> ...I have no sources for kernel. Try to download them, dselect and apt-get are having tons of errors that they can not stat files and directories because something is not found...  That will get compiler, binutils and other junk? Kernel headers and kernel source?
[01:58] <SpAwN> Grundee: this is a great how-to for manualy installing the driver http://transgaming.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5786
[01:58] <SpAwN> Grundee: that will install make gcc and a few other things
[01:59] <SpAwN> Grundee: u will then need to install thekernel source for you currecnt kernel
[01:59] <AmazingRuss> any of you know anything about openal++?
[01:59] <omeow> apt-get install nvidia-glx and the kernel sources for your kernel should be enough.
[01:59] <omeow> I mean linux-restricted-modules.
[02:00] <SpAwN> omeow: some ppl have had probs with that driver......i am one of them
[02:00] <omeow> What kind of problems?
[02:00] <SpAwN> omeow: plus with the officail driveri get better fps
[02:00] <SpAwN> omeow: it froze my system 2 times
[02:00] <omeow> But that is the official driver. =/
[02:00] <SpAwN> omeow: i know
[02:00] <SpAwN> omeow:but im telling ya the officail one made a big diff
[02:01] <Grundee> nvidia-glx does not work for me.
[02:01] <omeow> I can't imagine why.
[02:02] <SpAwN> omeow: i ran glxgears with the ubuntu ones......got around 12000-13000 fps....i then installed the ones from the nvidia site and got 14000-15000
[02:02] <omeow> hmhm
[02:03] <SpAwN> plus the colors look better on this one
[02:03] <SpAwN> in et the colors where off with the ubuntu ones.......dont know why...but these are my experiences with them
[02:05] <kuzmaster> !patiance
[02:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about patiance
[02:06] <gemidjy> !gemidjy
[02:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about gemidjy
[02:06] <SpAwN> Grundee: also on that tutorial....the last step says to reboot....u dont need to....after u modprobe it just restart x and it should worl
[02:06] <Grundee> ok
[02:06] <SpAwN> *work
[02:08] <usp8riot> can someone tell me how to solve this error? bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[02:08] <gemidjy> usp8riot: put another `
[02:08] <usp8riot> i'm trying to run an emulator but the konsole doesn't understand the ( key
[02:08] <gemidjy> what "(" key
[02:08] <usp8riot> the game has a ( in the title
[02:09] <gemidjy> either rename it, or use <tab>
[02:09] <visik7> use a \
[02:09] <gemidjy> usp8riot: type the first letters of the file and press tab
[02:09] <usp8riot> tab doesn't work all the time
[02:09] <gemidjy> usp8riot: is it executable?
[02:09] <osoh> hi all
[02:10] <usp8riot> no, just a .smc file, a sega rom
[02:10] <gemidjy> then use \
[02:10] <gemidjy> file\ where\ spaces\ exist
[02:10] <usp8riot> ok, tried using / instead of \ and got a couldn't load rom error
[02:10] <gemidjy> sort of
[02:11] <gemidjy> then it is Rom/emulator err
[02:11] <usp8riot> ok, that maybe why, i'll try again
[02:12] <usp8riot> this is lame, it's like the _ DOS deal where DOS doesn't understand what a space is
[02:12] <usp8riot> wtf is up with making consoles that don't understand a key?
[02:13] <omeow> Could just use quotation marks.
[02:13] <omeow> Instead of escaping everything.
[02:13] <gemidjy> usp8riot: what is so difficult to rename it
[02:13] <usp8riot> thanks, i'll try it. the file name and directory is really long
[02:13] <omeow> Why not do it in konqueror?
[02:13] <usp8riot> gemidjy: because i got 1000's of roms
[02:14] <omeow> May I recommend krename? :)
[02:14] <gemidjy> usp8riot: use KFileReplace
[02:14] <usp8riot> omeow: good idea. exactly how? open with....?
[02:14] <omeow> you'll have to install it via adept
[02:15] <usp8riot> anyone in here use a genesis emulator?
[02:15] <dr_willis> usp8riot,  i have in the past. :P
[02:15] <gemidjy> nevargh heard ofd
[02:15] <gemidjy> of*
[02:16] <dr_willis> usp8riot,  i tend tocollect emulators.
[02:16] <omeow> I used to use one on Windows, but never used one on Linux.
[02:16] <kakalto> I'm having a rather interesting problem with kernels - when I install the k7 kernel, I can't boot it in normal mode, but I can in recovery mode, no problems. when I disable 'quiet splash' boot options, I get all the output, and it has no errors. However, it stops at keyboard. My keyboard/mouse combo is wireless. I have two options for plugging it in - through 1 (one) USB plug, or with 2 PS/2 plugs, one for mouse, the other for keyboard. bu
[02:16] <kakalto> et the same problem. Have I been chasing a red herring, or could my wireless kb/mouse have something to do with it?
[02:16] <dr_willis> i got one for my Dreamcast :)
[02:16] <dr_willis> !network-manager
[02:16] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager
[02:17] <kakalto> Extra note: I can boot the -386 kernel fine
[02:17] <usp8riot> dr_willis: yeah, i have lots and dvd's full of roms. now if i can just find some good emu's to run them in linux
[02:17] <dr_willis> !info gens
[02:17] <ubotu> Package gens does not exist in dapper
[02:18] <dr_willis> heh - apt-cache search emulator
[02:18] <usp8riot> i tried gens but it said i was missing sdl something when i tried to install
[02:19] <usp8riot> i got dgen going running sonic but it kind of sucks, just as i heard
[02:19] <dr_willis> install the sdl   deps I guess. not messed with it inages
[02:19] <BluDog_Anchorite> usp8riot, zsnes is good for your snes games
[02:19] <dr_willis> often the emulators  are a littel out of date for Ubuntu.  they update so fast - the disrto cant keep up
[02:19] <usp8riot> BluDog_Anchorite: yeah, i got it, it's pretty good
[02:20] <BluDog_Anchorite> mame works as it does in windows.  tuxnes aint to bad, but i have yet to find a decent emu for sega
[02:20] <I_Died_Once> gah
[02:20] <I_Died_Once> How do I manually unlock the database for adept?
[02:20] <I_Died_Once> sudo dpkg --cofingure -a did not work
[02:20] <usp8riot> zophar's domain says dgen is the best if it will work but apparently my sdl packs or something are too new
[02:20] <omeow> I_Died_Once: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:21] <dr_willis> could always use wine and a windows emulator. :P
[02:21] <dr_willis> ick eh?
[02:21] <dr_willis> actually i think that "MESS" can do sega emulation
[02:21] <usp8riot> dr_willis: yeah, but i've never gotten anything working with wine
[02:21] <BluDog_Anchorite> yes it can
[02:21] <BluDog_Anchorite> but extreamly slow
[02:22] <usp8riot> do you use wine for programs installed in windows or do i have to install them using wine?
[02:22] <BluDog_Anchorite> mess was never that good to me, other than for nes games
[02:22] <dr_willis> slow is my amiga emulator on my Pent I system. :P
[02:22] <BluDog_Anchorite> usp8riot, install them using wine
[02:22] <dr_willis> heh
[02:22] <dr_willis> usp8riot,  it can do either.. but its best to install them with wine
[02:23] <usp8riot> emulating windows emulating a console...the things pc's are capable of these days
[02:24] <dr_willis> There used to be a 'contest' to nest as many emulators as ya could. :P
[02:25] <dr_willis> linux, running vmware, running windows, running the amiga emulator, with the amiga emu running a dos emulator,,, and that running a C64 emulator...
[02:25] <dr_willis> :P
[02:25] <usp8riot> lol, that would be something
[02:26] <dr_willis> that reminds me - i never did get that XEN working.
[02:26] <dr_willis> :P
[02:27] <usp8riot> i haven't tried it. if it's on zophar's domain, i got it for linux
[02:27] <kakalto> dr_willis: it's not an issue with my wireless kb/mouse, gladly =)
[02:27] <dr_willis> a lot of the stuff for zophars - needs to be updated in their reviews
[02:28] <kakalto> give me a moment, I'll tell what happened
[02:28] <dr_willis> they got pages/comments  that aint been touched in ages. :P
[02:28] <usp8riot> i noticed
[02:28] <I_Died_Once> one more question - how do i enable the root account so I can su and not have to keep sudo'ing ???
[02:29] <kakalto> ok, so the -k7 kernel will not boot on my system with the kernel boot options 'noapic nolapic', whereas the -386 kernel will boot with such options.
[02:29] <LjL> !tell I_Died_Once about sudo
[02:29] <LjL> I_Died_Once: short answer: don't do that. just use "sudo -i" if you really need to stay root for a while.
[02:29] <kakalto> lol
[02:30] <omeow> always the same funny answer.
[02:30] <Alphax> I_Died_Once, or "sudo bash" :)
[02:30] <kakalto> 'kdesu konsole'
[02:30] <kakalto> mm?
[02:30] <I_Died_Once> ...I've done it before but forgot how
[02:30] <kakalto> ok, so...
[02:31] <LjL> ok then, then just enable root, mess up your systems, and come here complaining that KControl doesn't work and this and that don't work.
[02:31] <kakalto> kernel boot options 'noapic nolapic' do exactly what?
[02:32] <actinic> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[02:33] <usp8riot> kakalto: i think it's for the power saving features, unless i'm mistaken with apci
[02:33] <kakalto> apci is definately power saving, dunno what apic is
[02:34] <usp8riot> yeah, i get them mixed up, i was wondering what the other does
[02:35] <I_Died_Once> I got another question... Theres an updated version of amarok in the kubuntu.org/packages site... I cannot get adept to recognize it so I can install the updated version
[02:35] <kakalto> I think it's time for the handy dandy.....
[02:35] <kakalto> google!
[02:36] <I_Died_Once> How I've put it in the manage repositories part of adept, hit enable - nothing
[02:36] <omeow> I_Died_Once: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[02:36] <kakalto> =O
[02:36] <kakalto> where on earth is konqueror's "windows" menu? I can't make new panes...
[02:36] <omeow> Make sure to hit apply before you close the repository management.
[02:36] <omeow> Then fetch the updates, and then upgrade.
[02:36] <kakalto> APIC = Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller
[02:37] <I_Died_Once> I'm there already... shouldnt I install it with adept though?
[02:37] <kakalto> ACPI = Advanced Configuration and Power Interface
[02:37] <omeow> Of course you should.
[02:37] <luksan> kakalto: it's disabled in Kubuntu by default ;-)
[02:37] <usp8riot> ahah, by george you've got it. i've always been too lazy to look it up
[02:38] <kakalto> luksan: naturally =/
[02:38] <luksan> kakalto: they tried to "simplify" it
[02:38] <kakalto> luksan: and how do I re-enable it?
[02:38] <kakalto> fair enough I suppose
[02:38] <kakalto> I'm probably one in 100 who actually use multiple panes
[02:38] <I_Died_Once> that,,,, and I'd liek to update to the latest version of KDE
[02:38] <luksan> kakalto: hold on
[02:38] <kakalto> I_Died_Once: have you heard of Automatix?
[02:38] <I_Died_Once> no...
[02:39] <I_Died_Once> link me so I can leave you guys alone
[02:39] <kakalto> or am I not allowed to speak that name in this channel?
[02:39] <kakalto> uhm one moment please
[02:39] <omeow> Hey, I don't mind you asking questions, I_Died_Once.
[02:39] <kakalto> I_Died_Once: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203294
[02:40] <usp8riot> kakalto: you mean multiple tabs? i use them all the time in konquerer
[02:40] <kakalto> great script if you ask me.
[02:40] <I_Died_Once> so.. you gotta enable a reopsitory for each program suite?
[02:40] <omeow> Just for the updates.
[02:40] <kakalto> usp8riot: no, multiple panes on each tab; split each tab into halves, quarters, etc.
[02:40] <omeow> (meaning you enable it when you want to get the version earlier than before it's released on the main repositories.)
[02:40] <kakalto> I_Died_Once: for every program suite that isn't in the default repos
[02:41] <usp8riot> oh, well, you probaby are one  of a few
[02:41] <kakalto> maybe I micromanage files and compare web pages too often xD
[02:41] <luksan> kakalto: i can get the "Standard Konqueror Menu & Toolbar Layout" for you
[02:42] <cbotar> i just emerged kubuntu and windows wont start
[02:42] <kakalto> luksan: nah, don't worry about it, I'll sort it out :)
[02:42] <I_Died_Once> So... all these folders / "programs" I see at http://kubuntu.org/packages - are most of these where i can ebable them as repositories?
[02:43] <luksan> kakalto: cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc
[02:43] <kakalto> I_Died_Once: yeah.
[02:43] <I_Died_Once> niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice
[02:44] <I_Died_Once> Wow, I've NEVER heard that before
[02:44] <kakalto> I_Died_Once: did you notice there's only 2 or 3 programs there? the rest are copies or earlier versions for earlier ubuntu?
[02:44] <I_Died_Twice> ;-)
[02:44] <I_Died_Twice> not really
[02:44] <dr_willis> !repos
[02:44] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:46] <I_Died_Once> How do I find out what version of KDE i'm running?
[02:46] <DanielW> hi
[02:46] <omeow> click help => about KDE in any KDE program
[02:46] <I_Died_Once> d'oh, I should have known that
[02:47] <I_Died_Once> you get so deep in the technical blahblah of it you forget something simple
[02:47] <RawSewage> so how would I go about, for example, installing the latest Amarok
[02:47] <DanielW> mhh, what is the trick to get dri running with a ati mobility radeon 7500 (r100)?
[02:48] <DanielW> the readon xorg modul should support it, but mhh i don't know how
[02:49] <usp8riot> would anyone know why my x server doesn't start when i have edited my mouse settings?
[02:51] <dr_willis> X may detecta a mouse is not set up right and exit.
[02:51] <dr_willis> I would guess ya set up the mouse wrong.
[02:52] <usp8riot> i would say so but i just don't see why it would affect the display
[02:52] <usp8riot> i'm pretty sure i didn't touch the video settings in x config. trying to get my mx518 to work with high res and all buttons
[02:53] <dr_willis> If    X detexts that there is no Mouse.. it will Fail to start. becasue thats how its designed.
[02:53] <dr_willis> theres an option to let it start anyway.. but i forget what it is.
[02:53] <dr_willis> try 'startx' and see what the error messages say
[02:53] <kakalto> ah right...
[02:54] <kakalto> luksan: cheers for all that, but it's just that the menu has been relocated to the 'view' menu, which actually makes sense
[02:54] <usp8riot> yeah, i'll try that
[02:56] <luksan> kakalto: but it has all the options, right?
[02:57] <luksan> my Konqueror menu doesn't allow me to split the window
[02:57] <luksan> any more
[02:57] <kakalto> luksan: really? under view----> Split View menu?
[02:57] <gemidjy> damn this kubuntu desktop, when I save some file from other application on Desktop, it doesn't appear on the desktop and it is in ~/Desktop
[02:57] <gemidjy> anyones noticed this, has this?
[02:57] <luksan> kakalto: strangely enough... but it's like i remember it being there at one time
[02:57] <kakalto> gemidjy: the desktop is probably configured to not show any icons
[02:57] <luksan> kakalto: hold on
[02:58] <gemidjy> kakalto: I am idiot but not moron, u know
[02:58] <gemidjy> there are icons
[02:58] <dr_willis> luksan,  there used to ba a lot of  'profiles' i recall  also that did some neat tricks ike that.
[02:58] <dr_willis> luksan,  ive also notiuced they are gone. :(
[02:58] <kakalto> gemidjy: well hey, don't go off at me. my default desktop disables icons.
[02:58] <unix_infidel> my wm doesnt use icons :)
[02:58] <unix_infidel> booyah :)
[02:58] <gemidjy> bug to bug
[02:58] <kakalto> dr_willis: I think the idea of 'profiles' is, if you want them, you can make them.
[02:59] <kakalto> =/
[02:59] <gemidjy> how can this be, kde work perfectly in slack and make problems in kubuntu
[02:59] <dr_willis> kakalto,  ya  - but there used tobe a lot of 'example' ones..
[02:59] <gemidjy> who messes kde
[02:59] <dr_willis> i liked the one that had  icons at top and a shell at the bottom.
[02:59] <dr_willis> :P
[03:00] <luksan> dr_willis: kakalto: i figured it out
[03:00] <luksan> dr_willis: kakalto: Konq has to be opened in "File Management" mode
[03:00] <kakalto> dr_willis: =D
[03:00] <kakalto> luksan: ah k.
[03:00] <dr_willis> lol
[03:00] <kakalto> well that's the default mode, isn't it?
[03:00] <luksan> not for me
[03:00] <kakalto> err
[03:01] <kakalto> neither. but I can split view in web profile, too
[03:01] <RawSewage> Ok, I installed the latest amarok by adding    deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main    to my repos list
[03:02] <RawSewage> should I remove it from the repos list, now that it's installed?
[03:02] <luksan> kakalto: it's different from profiles
[03:02] <kakalto> luksan, hrm k, not sure exactly what you're talking about then
[03:03] <luksan> kakalto: me either
[03:03] <luksan> if i type "konqueror" i do not get the split window things
[03:03] <kakalto> lol
[03:03] <luksan> but if i type "konqueror /home/luke" i do
[03:03] <luksan> what the fsck
[03:03] <erov> raw sewage wont matter.. if a newer one supercedes it will flash "install" in the future
[03:03] <kakalto> =/
[03:03] <kakalto> luksan: it's an issue on your system. if I just run konq, I can still split view
[03:03] <RawSewage> erov, ok thx
[03:03] <RawSewage> erov, did you ever fix the Digg problem
[03:04] <erov> nope not in Konq..
[03:04] <erov> its ok in other browsers just konqueror shifts the text to the left a little.. nothing major just "not right"
[03:04] <erov> i submitted it to the kubuntu "bugs" as well
[03:04] <luksan> and dr_willis's system
[03:04] <erov> just to see if im crazy or if they can answer
[03:05] <luksan> why don't they just admit that Konqueror is as buggy as hell
[03:05] <erov> or if it's digg's fault for "hacking" css to work with ie6
[03:05] <RawSewage> I like Konqueror
[03:06] <kakalto> !tell me about beagle
[03:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about beagle
[03:06] <erov> i do too
[03:06] <RawSewage> why do you say it's buggy
[03:06] <erov> even if it is buggy i hope they can fix it to be better.. i just like how well its integrated with the fs and desktop
[03:06] <erov> ive got mine setup pretty nice
[03:06] <kakalto> yeah, what kind of buggy?
[03:06] <RawSewage> I like the shortcuts
[03:06] <erov> firefox as a backup
[03:07] <RawSewage> for example, in the address bar, I can type  ts  BLAH
[03:07] <RawSewage> and it searched TorrentSpy for BLAH
[03:07] <erov> yes that too raw
[03:08] <kakalto> is beagle/or something similar installable and working for kubuntu?
[03:08] <erov> kakalto: my only complaint is www.digg.com and a FEW other sites having misaligned text/pictures
[03:08] <RawSewage> whats Beagle
[03:08] <RawSewage> Im new to Linux
[03:08] <erov> nothing major just "not right" as i said before
[03:09] <kakalto> erov: ahk. well, konq does run off a different engine than other browsers, so the web code is quite likely interpreted slightly differently
[03:09] <usp8riot> kakalto: i think that's a browser problem
[03:09] <kakalto> RawSewage: desktop search
[03:09] <erov> although i will add this didnt happen until digg upgraded to their new css style
[03:09] <usp8riot> mine does the same thing in windows
[03:09] <RawSewage> Beagle is a search tool that ransacks your personal information space to find whatever you're looking for. Beagle can search in many different domains.
[03:09] <RawSewage> oh, like Google Desktop
[03:09] <kakalto> yeah
[03:10] <RawSewage> doesnt it work in KDE?
[03:10] <kakalto> well, it's made for GTK/GNOME. however, I can't quite recall what the QT/KDE equivalent is called right now
[03:10] <kakalto> SuSE Linux has it by default I think
[03:10] <luksan> aKat
[03:10] <luksan> Kat
[03:10] <KDEfanboy> erov: oh, only slight problems? digg.com is entirely unusable for me
[03:10] <kakalto> that's one of them
[03:10] <usp8riot> i'm using beagle on kubuntu
[03:10] <kakalto> there were 2 of them
[03:11] <kakalto> I remember Kat just wouldn't work for me under gentoo
[03:11] <luksan> i've found those search tools to be pretty useless anyway
[03:11] <luksan> if you're not a drooling fool you know where to find your files
[03:11] <kakalto> true.
[03:11] <eXCeSS> any idea on this problem? http://pastebin.ca/83745
[03:11] <RawSewage> kerry
[03:11] <kakalto> eh, I figured, I'll install it, and if I start to use it, cool. if I don't, I'll remove it in a month's time
[03:12] <RawSewage> kerry?
[03:12] <kakalto> Kerry. that's the one that worked..... .but I didn't use under gentoo
[03:12] <usp8riot> i'm a drooling fool. i don't know where crap is at on linux
[03:12] <kakalto> lol
[03:12] <RawSewage> I think I'll try that
[03:12] <kakalto> I have issues trying to find files on windows, lol...
[03:12] <kakalto> I go to the file manager, looking for my /data partition, sit there for a minute, then realise "oh right. E:\"
[03:12] <usp8riot> when you got 320 gigs of files it helps to have a search utiliity
[03:12] <RawSewage> big program
[03:13] <RawSewage> 25 mb
[03:13] <kakalto> usp8riot: that's one way of looking at it, but all that data has to be indexed, too.
[03:13] <kakalto> =/
[03:14] <usp8riot> kakalto: yeah, that's why i'm also just trying beagle out. google desktop search used loads of resources indexing
[03:14] <RawSewage> kakalto, are you installing kerry now
[03:14] <kakalto> RawSewage: nah, not yet, but will do soon
[03:14] <RawSewage> weird
[03:14] <RawSewage> it's downloaind Beagle things for Kerry
[03:15] <kakalto> RawSewage: Kerry is just a frontend for beagle
[03:15] <usp8riot> anyone know why i keep getting permission denied when trying to run ./configure on a specific file? i'm logged in as su
[03:15] <kakalto> usp8riot: the 'configure' file isn't chmoded executable?
[03:15] <eXCeSS> sudo ./configure
[03:15] <kakalto> chmod +x ./configure
[03:15] <kakalto> then sudo ./configure
[03:15] <kakalto> ?
[03:15] <usp8riot> ok, thanks
[03:16] <usp8riot> sudo ./configure = command not found
[03:16] <kakalto> hrm.
[03:16] <kakalto> if you're logged in as su, then should just be ./configure
[03:16] <usp8riot> ok, thanks, had to do the chmod +x first
[03:17] <kakalto> that's usually the only reason you'll get "permission denied" as root
[03:17] <usp8riot> what's with the files though? i just dl'ed it like that and apparently it was configged i had no  execute permissions as root
[03:18] <kakalto> the _file_ must be modded as executable
[03:18] <kakalto> not the user
[03:20] <oomph_7> good evenning everyon
[03:20] <oomph_7> e
[03:20] <RawSewage> how do you get programs to start at startup
[03:21] <dr_willis> depends on what startup you mean
[03:21] <RawSewage> I always restart with a clean session
[03:21] <RawSewage> restart X
[03:21] <kakalto> oomph_7: good afternoon =)
[03:21] <RawSewage> with a clean session
[03:21] <RawSewage> but would like certain programs to open
[03:21] <usp8riot> RawSewage: i think there's a file in your home/user directory for one
[03:21] <RawSewage> ok ty
[03:22] <usp8riot> i read on google though how they done it for a program and it was more complicated. i think it depends on how and what starts up
[03:23] <usp8riot> RawSewage: i also meant your home/user/.kde directory
[03:26] <AB3I> evening all
[03:27] <oomph_7> hawkwind: what is your website again
[03:27] <Hawkwind> oomph_7: http://LinuxForDummies.org/
[03:28] <AB3I> I just installed wine on a fresh dapper install. The program is running fine, and seems fully functional, but I have no sound at all. Anyone have any suggestions or things I'm missing? I'm afraid I've never successfully used wine before
[03:28] <oomph_7> thank you
[03:28] <oomph_7> hawkwind: any plans to add a kanotix forum? I actually use both kubuntu and kano :)
[03:28] <oomph_7> i found kano works better on my laptop
[03:29] <Hawkwind> oomph_7: I can add one if you think you can bring some users and get some posts to the section
[03:29] <oomph_7> yeah, that would be great
[03:29] <oomph_7> ill do my best to spread the word
[03:30] <Hawkwind> oomph_7: Okies.  I'll add it later tonight or tomorrow some time
[03:30] <oomph_7> hawkwind: have you tried kanotix?
[03:30] <Hawkwind> oomph_7: Nope, never have.
[03:30] <oomph_7> if you like kubuntu you would probably like it
[03:31] <oomph_7> good hardware support and fast :) nice user base too. Not as large as Kubuntu but they are very helpful folks
[03:31] <Hawkwind> oomph_7: I'll have to give it a try some time.  No spare boxes at the moment
[03:31] <unix_infidel> vmware :)
[03:31] <oomph_7> aye, vmware is great for that
[03:32] <usp8riot> anyone know a bandwidth monitor? i can't get full dl speeds so something must be eating up my bandwidth
[03:32] <unix_infidel> oomph_7: but it defeats the purpose of running a user friendly distro imho.
[03:32] <unix_infidel> i mean you're emulating the hardware that you dont care about if its recognized or not :P
[03:32] <oomph_7> i finally settled on my distro choices, Kubuntu for my old desktop and Kanotix for my lappy
[03:33] <oomph_7> yeah, vmware is good for testing features, look and feel more or less
[03:33] <oomph_7> but you are correct regarding the hardware
[03:34] <oomph_7> there is an opensource virtual machine software too, right? how does it compare to vmware?
[03:34] <erov> qemu
[03:34] <unix_infidel> xen, qemu, and the kqemu stuff isnt really open source.
[03:35] <oomph_7> xen is opensource. right?
[03:35] <Driz> hah
[03:35] <Driz> amadeus_
[03:35] <oomph_7> how does it compare to vmware?
[03:35] <amadeus_> driz
[03:37] <dr_willis> xen is a different 'goal' then vmware
[03:37] <dr_willis> xen takes some readint to figure out what the *#@*&@& it really is supposed to be for. :)
[03:38] <oomph_7> heh
[03:43] <DanielW> is it correct that speedstep doesn't work at all in the kernel 2.6.15 ?
[03:43] <DanielW> and how can i upgrade to a newer kernel?
[03:44] <dr_willis> apt-get update /upgrade should get the latest
[03:44] <dr_willis> Hmm.. amazing - i have 500+ emails on my hotmail account.. and they say that 13 of them are spam....
[03:44] <DanielW> mhh this is 2.6.15-25. the one i am using know.
[03:45] <dr_willis> and guess what.. ALL of them are spam
[03:45] <DanielW> now
[03:45] <DanielW> but there are newer ones (on kernel.org)  and the 2.6.15 doesn't support speedstep (at least on kubuntu read that somewhere on the forums)
[03:45] <kakalto> dr_willis: lol. did you even expect hotmail to get it vaguely right?
[03:46] <dr_willis> id at least expect them to get the viagra spam
[03:46] <dr_willis> actually now that i look at them - most are trying to sell/give away Rolex Watches
[03:47] <kakalto> get many kind nigerians offering a deal of a lifetime?
[03:47] <dr_willis> and things with subjects like "GetFreeViagraNowForAllYourneedsBestPrices"
[03:47] <dr_willis> :P
[03:48] <kakalto> heheh.
[03:52] <erov> free viagra where do i put in my credit card for such fabulous gifts?!
[03:55] <kakalto> I'm just amazed at how many goodwilled nigerians there are in this world.
[03:55] <kakalto> All I need to give is my credit card number, and they'll just donate me some money!
[03:56] <dr_willis> 'all natural  herbal viagra'
[03:57] <erov> and marijuana and ecstacy too if you visist 'some' sites
[03:58] <dr_willis> 'unable to verify c.msn.com as a trusted site'
[03:58] <dr_willis> :P
[04:00] <Ashex> So, who needs help
[04:01] <Hobbsee> Ashex: sure, fix why my package wont build for me :P
[04:02] <Ashex> What's your error?
[04:03] <Hobbsee> Ashex: no ./configure
[04:04] <Ashex> and make doesn't work?
[04:04] <Ashex> pastebin the directory
[04:19] <Hobbsee> Ashex: make does, it's just being annoying.  and it's packaging for repos :P
[04:20] <Ashex> ah, sucky
[04:25] <Ashex> !tell me about pastebin
[04:28] <Eragon> hey...i've tried everything with ndiswrapper and i still cant get my wireless network to work..i removed the bcm43xx mod and it took away my eth1 when i do iwconfig..but wlan0 still doesn't show up. im sure i have the right driver.. anyone can help?
[04:29] <Eragon> anyone know where i can get bcm43xx-fwcutter
[04:29] <MrObvious> Eragon: What kind of card?
[04:29] <elknof1> hey, hi everybody...   can someone help me with the line of reconfigure x??
[04:30] <SpAwN> hello all does kubuntu have a command simmiler to server servicename start?
[04:30] <Eragon> broadcom 4306
[04:30] <Eragon> 14e4:4320
[04:31] <MrObvious> I have Dapper on my other putter with a 4312 or 4313
[04:31] <MrObvious> Somethin
[04:31] <MrObvious> g
[04:31] <Eragon> i found this website http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[04:32] <Eragon> but its for ubuntu and i dunno how to get the packages
[04:32] <MrObvious> You should be able to download them somewhere
[04:32] <we6jbo> I have a question
[04:32] <unix_infidel>  can anyone recommend a good sql guide / howto / ebook?
[04:33] <MrObvious> Oh I have an 18
[04:33] <MrObvious> 4318
[04:33] <Eragon> sigh
[04:33] <Eragon> i've been trying since yesterday afternoon
[04:34] <DanielW> SpAwN: mhh yes try /etc/init.d/servicename start
[04:35] <MrObvious> Eragon: It's doable.
[04:35] <MrObvious> Just do NOT use ndiswrapper
[04:35] <Eragon> oh
[04:35] <Eragon> ha.
[04:35] <Eragon> tnx mrObvious
[04:35] <Eragon> i shall try to find the package
[04:35] <Eragon> this is frustrating
[04:37] <MrObvious> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/utils/bcm43xx-fwcutter
[04:37] <MrObvious> Found it :)
[04:38] <MrObvious> Run the fwcutter stuff, then modprobe yadayada after you compile the module
[04:38] <MrObvious> Then sudo ifup eth*
[04:38] <MrObvious> sudo iwconfig essid eth* *
[04:38] <MrObvious> sudo dhclient
[04:38] <MrObvious> That'll get you set up
[04:38] <MrObvious> :)
[04:39] <MrObvious> Eragon: ping
[04:41] <Eragon> o hey
[04:41] <Eragon> yea
[04:41] <Eragon> i found it too
[04:41] <Eragon> im trying to uninstall ndiswrapper
[04:41] <Eragon> how do i get the packages so i can run make
[04:42] <MrObvious> sudo apt-get remove package
[04:42] <MrObvious> man apt-get
[04:42] <Eragon> hm what's man
[04:43] <MrObvious> man man
[04:43] <Hobbsee> Eragon: manual
[04:43] <RawSewage> I thought it was manatee
[04:43] <Hobbsee> Eragon: packages are off ndiswrapper.sourceforge.com i think
[04:43] <Hobbsee> or in the repos
[04:43] <Hobbsee> !ndiswrapper
[04:43] <ubotu> wifi is Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[04:44] <Eragon> ah wow so much stuff now
[04:44] <Eragon> thanks guys
[04:44] <MrObvious> Hobbsee: He wants to uninstall. The BCM43xx chips work better with fwcutter than ndiswrapper.
[04:44] <Eragon> let me try to fix it
[04:44] <MrObvious> Eragon: You're welcome.
[04:44] <MrObvious> I even told ya the steps to get running after you compile the module for the kernel :)
[04:44] <MrObvious> Make sure you get it!
[04:44] <Eragon> hehe ok
[04:45] <Hobbsee> MrObvious: sudo apt-get remove --purge ndiswrapper-utils
[04:46] <MrObvious> Eragon: Make sure you get what Hobbsee said too
[04:47] <Eragon> kekek yea thanks hobbsee
[04:56] <devin> anyone available for some totally newb questions?
[04:56] <unix_infidel> !ask
[04:56] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:56] <dr_willis> is it ok if i ask about asking to ask? :P
[04:56] <devin> i need the most basic user guide available,any suggestions
[04:57] <unix_infidel> dr_willis: the answer is the same.
[04:57] <robotgeek> devin: how about K-Menu -> Help
[04:57] <unix_infidel> devin: be more specific, what kinda user guide?
[04:57] <dr_willis> google for linux tutorials, and the ubuntu wikis/forums/uderguides at  the ubuntu homepage
[04:57] <devin> as in never even seen linux before and deleted windows at 1am
[04:57] <unix_infidel> heh, i would've recommended a live cd, but do what the good dr said.
[04:58] <dr_willis> you got it installed and online with it however? :P
[04:58] <devin> just basic how to's the k menu assumes basic knowledge
[04:58] <devin> yes
[04:58] <dr_willis> like 'how to click the mouse' :)
[04:58] <unix_infidel> dr_willis: that's the problem with kids these days, they can get it installed, but dont know how to get it working...
[04:58] <dr_willis> kde homepage proberly has somne guides also.
[04:59] <unix_infidel> devin: google for some linux guides, there are LOTS.
[04:59] <elknof1> hi everybody, can someone tell me the line for konsole to reconfigure X??
[04:59] <dr_willis> unix_infidel,  i rember the days of the C64 where we had to figure out all the warez! :P good old days
[04:59] <unix_infidel> dr_willis: good thing i didnt have to remember those days....
[04:59] <devin> and this is why ppl dont change, go figure
[04:59] <unix_infidel> dr_willis: but then again, i'll be reminiscing about days when hard drives werent solid state.
[05:01] <dr_willis> Yep - and we dident all have usb ports in our.. err... ear..    You're next :p
[05:08] <Hawkwind> MrObvious: Right.  I atleast know better than to ask such a question in a public channel :P
[05:08] <MrObvious> What's a channel?
[05:09] <MrObvious> :p
[05:09] <unix_infidel> MrObvious: to you youngins, its caled...."a chat room...zomg!"
[05:10] <unix_infidel> called*
[05:10] <dr_willis> whats the command to load a program off my C64's 2nd floppy drive? :P
[05:14] <jerry> seriously I didn't know that would go in here
[05:14] <jerry> bye
[05:15] <MrObvious> I told ya people are creapy at night.
[05:16] <MrObvious> Oh wait I didn't.
[05:17] <Cntryboy> anyone play q3 on ubuntu?
[05:18] <dr_willis> Been playing  that Q3 variant Trembulus   or Tremulus
[05:18] <Cntryboy> I want to install q3 though on here from windows q3 disc, easy howto
[05:18] <Cntryboy> dialup and tremulus I would have to dl
[05:19] <kwelty> sorry.. newbie question.. but how do i add items like "home" "trash" "my computer"  to the desktop?
[05:20] <MrObvious> kwelty: Right click the desktop and push new folder? Just one way.
[05:20] <MrObvious> Oh wait wrong thing
[05:20] <MrObvious> Sorry
[05:20] <Cntryboy> dr_willis what site is that I may dl that tonight
[05:20] <unix_infidel> kwelty: if you right click there are tons of options for adding link to location stuff.
[05:22] <dr_willis> Cntryboy,  i never can rember it.. let me see if i go tit bookmarked
[05:22] <dr_willis> I cant ever spell it right
[05:22] <Cntryboy> k thx
[05:23] <dr_willis> Cntryboy,  i think ya may have better luck checking at planetquake.com (or is it planetwuake3.com) :P
[05:23] <dr_willis> I cant get any hits on google. lol
[05:24] <kakalto> where is the colourscheme kept?
[05:24] <kakalto> what file?
[05:24] <Cntryboy> no i mean for the tremulus game, i dunno how its spelled either
[05:24] <Cntryboy> googling now on 2.1KB lol
[05:25] <unix_infidel> Cntryboy: why 2.1kb?
[05:25] <dr_willis> heh
[05:25] <dr_willis> thats why i said planetquake.
[05:25] <unix_infidel> even my cell phone gets 9.6KB
[05:25] <dr_willis> let me find the binary
[05:25] <unix_infidel> LOL
[05:26] <dr_willis> tremulous.
[05:26] <robotgeek> kakalto, use alt + f2, type "kcontrol" in the text box, and hit the <enter> key
[05:26] <dr_willis> want to know somthing Funny... that game will NOT work fo rme under windows.. it exists/crashes.. but it runs great under Linux
[05:26] <robotgeek> then you'll see themes and so on
[05:26] <dr_willis> also - take some Anti-seasickness meds befor playing.
[05:26] <dr_willis> :)
[05:26] <Cntryboy> on dialup
[05:26] <dr_willis> you will be Pukeing!
[05:27] <Cntryboy> dr_willis: is it exactly q3 or does it look like it?
[05:27] <Cntryboy> dr_willis why med? does it suck?
[05:27] <kakalto> robotgeek: I'm trying to take a colourscheme from a previous installation, on a different hard drive
[05:27] <dr_willis> Cntryboy,  you play 'bugs
[05:27] <dr_willis> ' that can climb walls..like in the alien movies..
[05:27] <dr_willis> ya get dizzy from the viewpoint
[05:28] <robotgeek> kakalto: somewhere in ~/.kde, possibly
[05:28] <dr_willis> the bugs evolove as you get more kills. :P
[05:28] <kakalto> hmm.
[05:28] <Cntryboy> so does it look like quake or does it look like shitty doom 1
[05:28] <dr_willis> Its as good looking as Q3
[05:29] <dr_willis> the aliens could use some work.. but hay its free. :)
[05:29] <dr_willis> learnign the game takes some time
[05:29] <dr_willis> its not just a  Death Match
[05:29] <Cntryboy> oh
[05:30] <Cntryboy> not sure if id like it
[05:32] <Cntryboy> doesn't matter its 101mb
[05:32] <Cntryboy> lol
[05:37] <I_Died_Once> !repo
[05:37] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:38] <I_Died_Once> !easysource
[05:38] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:39] <dr_willis> !veg-o-matic
[05:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about veg-o-matic
[05:40] <DaSkreech> !georgeforemangrill
[05:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about georgeforemangrill
[05:40] <dr_willis> I got Shocked big time (electrically) by one of those grills..
[05:40] <RawSewage> did you get knocked out
[05:42] <dr_willis> Nope.. but i got a large jolt from one arm, throught the chest to the other arm....
[05:42] <dr_willis> across the heart = bad.
[05:42] <RawSewage> tko
[05:42] <RawSewage> to the ekg
[05:43] <dr_willis> yea - then thewife says "yea thats been shocking me also..."
[05:44] <dr_willis> i had one hand on the grill putting on some food.. and another on the metal sink..
[05:44] <dr_willis> That grill went in the trash :)
[05:44] <lintuxos> There is a strange thing happening in my openoffice right now. Any time I mouse over the toolbars they disappear. Has anyone else experienced this before?
[05:44] <DaSkreech> My friend did
[05:44] <dr_willis> which toolbars?
[05:44] <lintuxos> all of them
[05:46] <lintuxos> As the mouse leaves an icon it will go away, and when it is over an icon it will reappear
[05:47] <johntramp> hey I am installing kubuntu but when it gets to "Scanning the mirror" the app just stops at 1% and does not continue
[05:48] <johntramp> has anyone seen this before?
[05:48] <robotgeek> johntramp: can you check to see if your cd works correctly?
[05:48] <DaSkreech> is that computer connected to the internet?
[05:48] <johntramp> robotgeek: it is one from shipt.ubuntu.org
[05:48] <johntramp> DaSkreech: it is this computer
[05:48] <lintuxos> I have seen the mirrors occasionally go down
[05:49] <robotgeek> johntramp: okay. try to install without configuring network
[05:49] <johntramp> shouldn't it time out tho after some time
[05:50] <ru> I have an ati graphics card and the display doesnt look clear on my Xserver
[05:50] <johntramp> robotgeek:  it is an install from the live cd...  it configures the network it's self
[05:50] <robotgeek> johntramp: disconnect :)
[05:50] <ru> if i take a screenshot and look at it on another monitor then the graininess is gone
[05:50] <ru> so it must be the monitor/screen setting?
[05:50] <johntramp> robotgeek: ifconfig eth0 down
[05:51] <robotgeek> johntramp: that works too
[05:51] <johntramp> ok...   brb
[05:51] <lintuxos> Ru, I recently had the same problem, I switched to a vesa driver and that took care of the problem
[05:51] <ru> if i switch to the vesa driver everything goes screwey
[05:52] <lintuxos> Have you tried the radeon driver?
[05:52] <ru> i am using it
[05:52] <ru> fglrx ?
[05:52] <lintuxos> thats the ati propietary driver I think
[05:53] <ru> fglrx is the ati propietary driver...
[05:53] <ru> i dont think its the gfx card though cos if i take a screen shot and view it on another monitor it looks fine
[05:54] <lintuxos> I guess your problem isn't like the one I was having then
[05:56] <ru> what was ur issue exactly?
[05:56] <ru> For me basically colours that should be clear, aren't
[05:56] <ru> they are slightly grainy
[05:57] <lintuxos> When using fglrx everything appears distorted and menus have a glasslike backing to them
[05:57] <holotone> How can I mount a Fat32 partition as read/write?
[05:57] <dr_willis> !mount
[05:57] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[05:57] <holotone> I can get it mounted correctly, but only read only, presumably because root owns it
[05:57] <dr_willis> holotone,  use the user/umask options in the fstab.
[05:57] <holotone> how would I do that?
[05:58] <ru> dr_willis: lol? Surely if I can see the graininess then i dont need glasses?
[05:58] <dr_willis> google has ooodles of the sexmples. :)    holotone  check the /etc/fstab   and see what the line is now.
[05:58] <holotone> dr_willis: fstab reads this:
[05:58] <holotone> ./dev/hdd1       /mount/photos vfat umask=0222 0 0
[05:58] <holotone> minus the period at the beginning, of course
[05:59] <holotone> what should the umask be in order for my user to be able to read and write to the folder?
[05:59] <dr_willis> Hmm 0222 seesmright
[05:59] <dr_willis> could use the  user,umask=0222 optioons
[05:59] <dr_willis> then unmountit. and have the user mount it.
[06:01] <lintuxos> Could he not use root to change the read/write permissions of the mount point
[06:01] <unix_infidel> lintuxos: better to do it dr_willis way.
[06:02] <lintuxos> oh, ok Learn something new everyday
[06:02] <holotone> what do I do to "reload" fstab
[06:03] <holotone> unmount and remount drives using the new edits?
[06:03] <pmorrison> hello everyone.  I just install kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu dapper.  When I try to log in to a kde session, I get an error message... here is the log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17672 .  I'm a bit of a noob, can anyone help?
[06:04] <holotone> what do I type at the command line to unmount and remount fstab?
[06:04] <dr_willis> you DONT change the permissions of the mount point
[06:04] <holotone> instead of having to reboot
[06:04] <dr_willis> it dont work that way
[06:04] <dr_willis> umount /mnt/whatever
[06:04] <dr_willis> as root to unmount it. then let the USER mount it
[06:04] <holotone> ok, just  asec
[06:05] <dr_willis> also you proberly want to use the noauto option so it dont auto mount.
[06:05] <dr_willis> if it automounts - it may be get mounted./owned by root
[06:05] <holotone> command unmount not found
[06:05] <dr_willis> umount
[06:05] <dr_willis> no N
[06:05] <holotone> ah
[06:05] <holotone> just saw that
[06:05] <holotone> thanks
[06:06] <holotone> umount: /mount/photos: device is busy
[06:06] <holotone> grrr..
[06:06] <pmorrison> Here is the first error msg in my log if anyone else who's listening can help:
[06:06] <pmorrison> /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Stop using it?
[06:06] <pmorrison> trying to create local folder /home/pmorrison/.kde/share: Permission denied
[06:07] <holotone> DaSkreech: not being used by anything
[06:07] <holotone> somfa....
[06:07] <holotone> goddamnit, I'm just going to reboot
[06:07] <ru> Hmm, i think it is fglrx causing the grainyness
[06:07] <ru> I enabled vesa and its gone
[06:07] <ru> hmmm
[06:07] <DaSkreech> holotone: Just log out
[06:08] <ru> Anyone else had any trouble with fglrx causing grainyness or diffusion
[06:09] <pmorrison> Well, on the plus side... while I wait for someone to help me - the family guy's on!
[06:12] <SpAwN> wow i just noticed that xorg is taking up alot of memory...is this normal?
[06:12] <SpAwN> i have 2 gigs of ram but....i have never used this much b4
[06:12] <SpAwN> using over a gig of ram
[06:12] <SpAwN> RAM Usage: 1030/2075M
[06:13] <Zaire> damn what a weekend lol
[06:13] <Zaire> anyone in here know if I will encounter any probs installing kubuntu on what would be described as a legacy machine lol
[06:14] <pmorrison> hello everyone.  I just install kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu dapper.  When I try to log in to a kde session, I get an error message... here is the log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17672 .  I'm a bit of a noob, can anyone help?
[06:15] <SpAwN> im gonna go and try to restart x...see if that helps
[06:15] <robotgeek> pmorrison: taking look, one sec
[06:15] <jbrouhard> Anyone know of a decent open-source alternative to quickbooks ?
[06:15] <Zaire> its a Pentium 2 400Mhz with 256 megs of SD-Ram ATI Rage series plain jane vid card, and I believe a soundblaster soundcard
[06:15] <pmorrison> robotgeek: thanks!
[06:15] <robotgeek> pmorrison: dont know nothing about compiz
[06:15] <robotgeek> jbrouhard: kmymoney2?
[06:15] <jbrouhard> Zaire: I don't think you'll have any problems....
[06:16] <jbrouhard> Zaire: but the system might be awfully slow.  I have a PII 400 here myself in the kitchen and it runs Kubuntu semi-Ok
[06:16] <Zaire> lol its just gonna be a small file server
[06:16] <pmorrison> robotgeek: Ah, so because I have compiz installed, it's messing up kde?
[06:17] <jbrouhard> Well in that case, Zaire it should be fine
[06:17] <robotgeek> pmorrison: i would guess so, not sure
[06:17] <Zaire> cool I kinda thought so just wanted to check....I need something for doing the odd backup if I ever have to format just stuff like that mainly
[06:18] <pmorrison> robotgeek: how did you know I had compiz installed?  I thought it only affected my session when I loaded my xgl session...
[06:18] <Zaire> also curious as to how difficult it will be to bring the files left on it over to my linux box since the 400 is running windows 98
[06:19] <jbrouhard> Just install SAMBA on your current machine
[06:19] <jbrouhard> and transfer the files over
[06:19] <jbrouhard> when the fileserver's up, just transfer those over then :)
[06:19] <Zaire> k so just apt it huh
[06:20] <Zaire> nvm I got it lol
[06:20] <Zaire> gonna take a min to boot the old machine its never been formatted and my bro inlaw had it for 9 years atleast
[06:20] <SpAwN> well the mem usage went way donw
[06:21] <Zaire> but thanks for the help jbrouhard :)
[06:23] <pmorrison> OK, anyone successfully install Kubuntu on Ubuntu with a xgl/compiz session?
[06:28] <pmorrison> Hmm, I guess I'm stuck with GNOME...
[06:29] <robotgeek> !xgl
[06:29] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:29] <fiyawerx> anyone else think the !command is kind of ironic to find out more info on it?
[06:29] <fiyawerx> why not like ?command
[06:29] <fiyawerx> heh
[06:30] <pmorrison> Hmm, I got to go... you are all gapeing ghonorea holes!
[06:30] <robotgeek> pmorrison: please do respect the coc
[06:30] <fiyawerx> and the dic(tionary)
[06:30] <pmorrison> robotgeek: Ha! ok
[06:30] <unix_infidel> maybe if he could spell the disease correctly.
[06:30] <fiyawerx> :)
[06:31] <robotgeek> lol
[06:31] <pmorrison> how do you spell ghonorea?
[06:31] <unix_infidel> that would definately get him banned.
[06:31] <unix_infidel> and i'm pretty sure the microbe doesnt have a "hole" per se...its not an amoeba last time i checked.
[06:31] <pmorrison> let me guess, go to #kubuntu-really-off-topic
[06:31] <unix_infidel> pmorrison: no, #kubuntu..just be respectufl.
[06:31] <fiyawerx> whoa
[06:31] <fiyawerx> kdepanel just crashed
[06:31] <unix_infidel> respectcul*
[06:32] <fiyawerx> its wierd
[06:32] <fiyawerx> when i open firefox
[06:32] <pmorrison> not a ghonorea hole then, a gapeing ghonorea infested hole
[06:32] <fiyawerx> i get the "busy" icon, for like 20 seconds, even if the page comes up, i use it, and close it in about 10
[06:34] <usp8riot> does anyone know how to execute a linux executable? i clicked on some and nothing happens
[06:35] <fiyawerx> unix_infidel: http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/plush/6708/images/1188/
[06:35] <robotgeek> usp8riot: ./script
[06:35] <Hobbsee> usp8riot: ./nameofexecutable
[06:35] <usp8riot> ok, thanks, i'll try it
[06:35] <Ash-Fox> chmod +x ./executable && ./executable
[06:36] <usp8riot> i'm getting a 'cannot open shared libraries' error
[06:37] <Ash-Fox> you don't have the required library installed or the required library is not in your library path variable.
[06:39] <usp8riot> ok, it's asking for liballeg.so.4.0 and do an apt-search and get a bunch. is there a way of knowing exactly which one i need, which package?
[06:39] <Ash-Fox> Google always worked for me
[06:39] <usp8riot> i take it liballegro.4.1 right?
[06:40] <Ash-Fox> Probably
[06:40] <usp8riot> guess it won't hurt to install a bunch of crap anyway, i'll just download most of them
[06:40] <Shizboom> why does it seem like kde is so much better than gnome :P
[06:40] <ChefWill> usually all you need is the base package and base pkg-dev
[06:40] <ChefWill> -docs if you want them
[06:41] <usp8riot> Shizboom: cuz kde doesn't look like crap
[06:41] <kakalto> lol.
[06:41] <usp8riot> especially like the crap-brown ubuntu comes in
[06:41] <kakalto> they're doing a new colour scheme from edgy eft onwards, aren't they?
[06:42] <Ash-Fox> I think the default KDE themes are always too big
[06:42] <usp8riot> i'm a sucker for aesthetics, i've never used gnome
[06:42] <Ash-Fox> Huge icons everywhere
[06:42] <Ash-Fox> Huge taskbar, drives me mad.
[06:43] <Ash-Fox> Thank god KDE is customizable :)
[06:43] <Hobbsee> you cant make everyone happy with themes, unfortunately
[06:43] <Shizboom> KDE seems to customize a bit more
[06:43] <usp8riot> my desktop is teh ownage
[06:43] <Shizboom> and be a bit less quirky
[06:44] <Ash-Fox> And I'm greatful for being able to turn off those 3d effects in KDE. I really think the default fading etc. gives people a bad opinion on linux, making it appear slow etc.
[06:44] <Ash-Fox> You turn off all those silly effects and people really don't notice, they find it more responsive.
[06:44] <Ashex> i think that fade looks spiffy
[06:44] <usp8riot> although my progs crash a lot. is this common?
[06:44] <Ash-Fox> usp8riot, no.
[06:45] <Shizboom> is there anyway to click on the popup notes that azerues puts up?
[06:45] <Ash-Fox> The only application that sometimes crashes on me is konqueror, usually clearing the cache fixes that though.
[06:45] <DaSkreech> KDE4 on AIR!!
[06:45] <usp8riot> my kget crashes when i add too many dl's. konquerer has crashed 3 times today
[06:46] <Ash-Fox> KDE4 isn't out yet
[06:46] <Ash-Fox> kget doesn't crash at all for me.
[06:46] <Hobbsee> hey, do you guys want to do me a favour?
[06:46] <Hobbsee> if you're into artwork, etc/
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Sure! :)
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Ohh artwork :-(
[06:47] <Ash-Fox> I can stickmen
[06:47] <Ash-Fox> I can do stickmen
[06:48] <usp8riot> i'm dl'ing america's army and have been praying kget doesn't crash. it did once while dl'ing but surprisingly i can still resume
[06:48] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: So what can we do?
[06:48] <usp8riot> is there a stable dl manager out there?
[06:48] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: screenshot/mockup of what you'd like kde to look lik ewould be cool
[06:48] <Hobbsee> usp8riot: prozilla
[06:48] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Eh?
[06:49] <DaSkreech> Like a full mockup or KDE would be better of this button was here?
[06:49] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: nah, as in, what the default kubuntu theme should look like, sorry
[06:49] <DaSkreech> Ah ha! ok :) thanks
[06:49] <usp8riot> thanks, i'll search for it
[06:49] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Topic it?
[06:50] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: i think there's already an artwork page on the wiki.
[06:50] <DaSkreech> Hmm ok :)
[06:51] <Hobbsee> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuArtwork
[06:51] <Hobbsee> there
[06:52] <Shizboom> !samba
[06:52] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:53] <Shizboom> is there a different program to use than apt-get in kde?
[06:53] <unix_infidel> apt-get is wm / de independent
[06:53] <DaSkreech> Shizboom: Adept?
[06:53] <usp8riot> Shizboom: can't you use synaptic?
[06:53] <Shizboom> command line is so much faster tho if i know what i'm looking for :D
[06:53] <usp8riot> then again i'm a linux noob so i may not know wtf i'm talking about
[06:54] <DaSkreech> Shizboom: aptitude?
[06:55] <usp8riot> before i would've been searching for a gui alternative but now i'd rather have the konsole. i fell in love with it
[06:55] <usp8riot> we've had such good times together
[06:55] <usp8riot> our ups and downs
[06:55] <Shizboom> :P
[06:56] <unix_infidel> konsole is just another terminal emulator...you can use it in kde or gnome or flux or E doesnt matter.
[06:56] <usp8riot> i heart terminal emulators
[06:56] <unix_infidel> i heart getting things done...not admiring my terminal emulator :)
[06:57] <unix_infidel> anyone know of a good sql guide / how to / tutorial??
[06:57] <Hawkwind> tldp.org has some
[06:57] <unix_infidel> preferably in ebook, tar.gz'ed html or pdf form.
[06:57] <DaSkreech> w3schools?
[06:58] <unix_infidel> DaSkreech: yea, i'm already there...
[06:58] <unix_infidel> i'm looking for a more dedicated ebook type format i can take with me when i dont have internet access.
[06:58] <DaSkreech> Amazon.com :)
[06:59] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: He don't spend money unless it's an emergency, and even then :P
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Find the SQL RFC and download it :)
[07:00] <unix_infidel> I dont spend money on anything other than booze and assets :)
[07:00] <usp8riot> does anyone ever think linux is going to catch on to the mainstream?
[07:00] <DaSkreech> usp8riot: Does it matter?
[07:01] <usp8riot> yes, so game companies will develope more for it
[07:01] <usp8riot> and other co's
[07:01] <usp8riot> i need a good photoshop alternative
[07:01] <DaSkreech> +2 usp8riot
[07:01] <DaSkreech> gimp?
[07:01] <unix_infidel> gimpshop :)
[07:01] <usp8riot> it's missing features
[07:02] <unix_infidel> of course it is...that's what macs are for.
[07:02] <usp8riot> i'm not even a big photoshop user and notice even some simple features gimp doesn't have
[07:02] <usp8riot> then again could be me, i haven't spent too much time with gimp
[07:02] <DaSkreech> I'm pretty sure they are in there
[07:03] <DaSkreech> usp8riot: Which games are you looking at?
[07:03] <unix_infidel> usp8riot: then boot to your windows partition...why should open source get IN THE WAY of you getting things done.
[07:03] <Zaire> k does anyone know how I can get a vnc viewer on kubuntu?
[07:03] <usp8riot> for example, i needed to make a rectangle with rounded corners, i didn't notice that in gimp
[07:03] <DaSkreech> ??
[07:04] <abattoir> usp8riot: In the rectangle tool menu, choose 'feathering'...
[07:04] <DaSkreech> Ok We did that the other day
[07:04] <abattoir> or rather 'Feather Edges'
[07:04] <abattoir> and then select your radius
[07:04] <usp8riot> unix_infidel: why not vote for more developers for open source?
[07:05] <usp8riot> or hoping they'll convert, instead of just moving over to windows
[07:05] <usp8riot> it's a catch 22, not many people want to use linux cuz of a lack of progs, not many users so programmers don't want to develop as much for linux
[07:05] <unix_infidel> usp8riot: because i'm not a developer, i'm a user.  If it doesnt work, i'll find it elsewhere.
[07:06] <DaSkreech> usp8riot: I don't think taht's true
[07:06] <unix_infidel> usp8riot: and I dont get paid to conver my mom, her friends, their bridge buddies and their pool boys to linux.
[07:06] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: You do in time
[07:07] <abattoir> usp8riot: the power of Open Source is the community... constructive people...
[07:07] <usp8riot> you can get paid for linux programs
[07:07] <usp8riot> i'm all for paying for linux programs to help it catch on
[07:07] <abattoir> usp8riot: if it is not the 'best', then they try to make it better than the best ;)
[07:07] <usp8riot> or atleast donating
[07:07] <abattoir> yes, Google believes that too :)
[07:08] <Zaire> !vnc
[07:08] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[07:08] <abattoir> but most Open Source projects are done on a 'voluntary' basis, and hence I believe bring out the best from the developers
[07:09] <DaSkreech> Cause they only really get paid in respect or usage
[07:09] <DaSkreech> usp8riot: In any case I'm writing to the folks at TiltedMill once a week to beg for Linux install files
[07:10] <usp8riot> but i love the spirit of the community. it's good linux brings tech to even the poorest of communities all over the world
[07:10] <unix_infidel> DaSkreech: you should threaten to sue them....see where that gets you.
[07:11] <usp8riot> either that or they probably just pirate windows, lol
[07:11] <DaSkreech> unix_infidel: huh?
[07:11] <DaSkreech> Sue who?
[07:12] <Hobbsee> abattoir: some get paid, you know.  if you do a good job you get paid, often
[07:12] <abattoir> well, I am, I should know :P
[07:12] <Hobbsee> that's true
[07:13] <abattoir> well, but many, if not most, are people who do it for nothing. :)
[07:14] <DaSkreech> well they don't do it for money
[07:14] <DaSkreech> I think they do do it for something
[07:15] <usp8riot> programmers do it for the women
[07:15] <DaSkreech> usp8riot: or the men :)
[07:15] <abattoir> usp8riot: lol, what is the rationale behind that?
[07:15] <usp8riot> lol
[07:16] <usp8riot> it was sarcasm
[07:16] <abattoir> indeed ;)
[07:16] <abattoir> or... for the 'lack' of women :P
[07:16] <Zaire> k how do you use tightvnc for vnc viewing
[07:16] <DaSkreech> Yeah but a woman who can unroll her own quadratic loop to improve the burnign speed of cdrecord would probably get a few dates :)
[07:16] <usp8riot> i could only wish to be a programmer though
[07:17] <Zaire> k how do you use tightvnc for vnc viewing
[07:17] <usp8riot> yes, but i've yet to see one who could
[07:18] <Zaire> Samab isn't quite doing the trick for me and I only have one set of periphs so i would like to know how to use the vnc viewer for tight vnc
[07:18] <Zaire> Samba*
[07:19] <abattoir> Zaire: I have no clue, but http://www.tightvnc.com/faq.html ?
[07:20] <DaSkreech> usp8riot: Look harder :)
[07:20] <Shizboom> Zaire - i recomend nomachine instead of vnc
[07:20] <usp8riot> wrong room zaire, i think you have to go to the 'can't get a date cuz i'm such a linux nerd' room
[07:20] <Shizboom> its alot better
[07:20] <usp8riot> geez, i'm so mean tonight
[07:20] <Zaire> and you could go to the get a life cause Im an ignoramus room usp8riot
[07:20] <robotgeek> freenx is better than vnc, imo
[07:20] <usp8riot> the beer's doing nothing for my manners
[07:21] <abattoir> usp8riot: i think soon, we should go to #kubuntu-offtopic ;)
[07:21] <usp8riot> i didn't know there was one, i just fire up konversation and this room pops up
[07:22] <usp8riot> i go to 'file', then 'join channel', is there like a list of channels i can join somewhere?
[07:22] <usp8riot> it's wanting me to just pop one up out of my head and i don't know any
[07:23] <DaSkreech> usp8riot: type /list
[07:23] <usp8riot> cool
[07:23] <Shizboom> the samba wiki for ubuntu is sort of shabby =o
[07:23] <Shizboom> !samba
[07:23] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:24] <Zaire> well Im not keeping Samba in use for long I just need to get some files off a P2 400 and the easiest way at the moment is from the 400 to my 3100
[07:25] <usp8riot> so who is this obotu guy? he seems to know a lot
[07:25] <Shizboom> okay so what is my share name if i follow this wiki anyway?
[07:25] <usp8riot> seems like a smartmouth sometimes
[07:25] <abattoir> !ubotu
[07:25] <abattoir> lol
[07:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:25] <ubotu> foo
[07:25] <Zaire> its a bot its programed to
[07:25] <usp8riot> man, the things they can do now
[07:26] <usp8riot> ubotu: so like, can you tell me where to meet some hot chicks?
[07:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about so like, can you tell me where to meet some hot chicks?
[07:26] <usp8riot> lol
[07:26] <usp8riot> i'm gonna have fun with this
[07:27] <Zaire> !wine
[07:27] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:27] <usp8riot> ubotu: so, you come here often?
[07:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about so, you come here often?
[07:27] <usp8riot> ubotu: do you have a girlfriend?
[07:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about do you have a girlfriend?
[07:28] <usp8riot> he's no fun
[07:28] <DaSkreech> usp8riot: Please msg the bot
[07:28] <DaSkreech> Breadmachine:!!
[07:28] <usp8riot> ubotu: you're cool, i'm just messing with ya. you're my pal!
[07:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about you're cool, i'm just messing with ya. you're my pal!
[07:29] <usp8riot> i can't message him, i'm not registered
[07:29] <Hawkwind> usp8riot: Please stop playing with the bot
[07:29] <usp8riot> ok
[07:29] <usp8riot> so i can kick the bot? it's giving me options
[07:29] <DaSkreech> Go ahed
[07:29] <Zaire> lol
[07:29] <usp8riot> it will probably kick me, right?
[07:30] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:30] <Breadmachine> imbrandon: yo there :D
[07:30] <usp8riot> such a mean bot
[07:31] <Breadmachine> anyone here familiar with troubleshooting timeouts in adept, or even just straight terminal apt-get?
[07:32] <Zaire> damn Samba
[07:33] <Zaire> what am I supposed to put in for the server portion when you add a new thing
[07:33] <Breadmachine> guess not
[07:33] <DaSkreech> Breadmachine: Check the spelling of the repo
[07:34] <Zaire> I would like to know why I can't get Samba to see windows other then windows sux
[07:34] <jerry> I have a question
[07:35] <jerry> I have a question I want to ask
[07:35] <jerry> about wine
[07:35] <Zaire> nvm it just decided to work lol
[07:36] <usp8riot> jerry: i have a question
[07:36] <DaSkreech> Zaire: What?
[07:36] <jerry> I have a question
[07:36] <jerry> ya
[07:36] <DaSkreech> !ask
[07:36] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:36] <usp8riot> jerry: why not just go ahead and say the question
[07:36] <jerry> How do I use wine?
[07:36] <jerry> um
[07:36] <usp8riot> lol, ubotu is my man
[07:36] <Zaire> oh I was having trouble getting samba to work then all of a sudden it started to work
[07:36] <jerry> I want to run a simple windows program
[07:36] <Hawkwind> jerry: The guys in #WineHQ can help you best with Wine
[07:36] <jerry> ok
[07:36] <DaSkreech> man wine
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Or read up on http://winehq.org
[07:37] <Zaire> !wine
[07:37] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:38] <Breadmachine> DaSkreech: you, my sir are my saviour, i left out an i in multiverse
[07:38] <jbrouhard> Hey guys... need help debating this
[07:38] <jbrouhard> For business purpsoes, which would be better.. sql-ledger, gnucash or kmymoney ?
[07:38] <DaSkreech> Breadmachine: happens to the best of us
[07:39] <DaSkreech> I would probably go with gnucash for a year then kmymoney
[07:39] <Breadmachine> now for the fun question, how do i change the order of the operating systems in GRUB boot loader
[07:39] <jerry> I have a question
[07:39] <Zaire> I should charge my bro inlaw for file storage lol
[07:39] <jerry> in a shell, how do I log off one user and log in another?
[07:39] <Zaire> su
[07:39] <DaSkreech> Of course I've never heard of sql-ledger so I could be (read I am) talking out my hinter-quarters
[07:39] <Zaire> just do an su command
[07:39] <DaSkreech> Breadmachine: Man grub.conf
[07:40] <abattoir> Breadmachine: /boot/grub/menu.lst is the file
[07:40] <DaSkreech> jerry: su <useryouwanttologinas>
[07:40] <abattoir> Breadmachine: you'd obv. need to edit as root, when you loook at the file, you'll understand the syntax :)
[07:40] <Breadmachine> thanks all
[07:41] <jbrouhard> Hmm
[07:41] <jbrouhard> I guess i need to play with gnucash more
[07:42] <DaSkreech> Maybe
[07:42] <Zaire> I still can't believe it I got this P2 400 cause my bro inlaw said it quit but all I had to do was plug it in and turn it on...nothing wrong with it
[07:43] <Zaire> !commands
[07:43] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:44] <Breadmachine> abattoir: okay, thats actually really greek to me, if i slapped that into pastebin, and told ya what i wanted could ya walk me through it?
[07:44] <abattoir> Breadmachine: sure, i'll try my best :)
[07:47] <Breadmachine> abattoir: http://pastebin.ca/83864 Okay, I want(and by I I mean my wife) to get Windows XP to show up at the top. thats all
[07:48] <abattoir> Breadmachine: you want it to be default too?
[07:48] <Breadmachine> default means its the one it boots into if i dont press anything? if so, yes
[07:51] <Breadmachine> abattoir: thats the one that my PC boots to if i dont hit anything right?
[07:51] <abattoir> yes :)
[07:52] <abattoir> http://pastebin.ca/83865 should do the trick
[07:53] <Breadmachine> abattoir: cool, thanks, ill reboot and let you know what blows up
[07:53] <abattoir> Breadmachine: sure :)
[07:54] <usp8riot> anyone know a good partitioning utility?
[07:55] <Zaire> I really gotta wonder what adaware will pickup on this P2 cause it hasn't been formatted in the 9 years my bro inlaw owned it not to mention has never been scanned with adaware lol
[07:57] <Breadmachine> abattoir: you sir are a god
[07:57] <Breadmachine> abattoir: any knowledge on changing resolution?
[07:57] <abattoir> Breadmachine: you are just poking my ego :)
[07:58] <abattoir> Breadmachine: krandrtray ?
[07:58] <thyko> kubuntu is off the chain meen
[07:58] <Breadmachine> abattoir: come again? im a linux n00b if ya couldnt tell
[07:59] <abattoir> Breadmachine: ok, ok, :). Alt+F2 ->Run Command->krandrtray
[07:59] <abattoir> should be in your system tray
[07:59] <abattoir> click to change resolution
[08:01] <Breadmachine> abattoir: no go, says can not run command, and im using an nvidia geoforce FX5200, ive installed nvidia-glx, im just wondering if i need to run glx-legacy
[08:01] <eightiesk> !password
[08:01] <ubotu> Forgot your password? Boot into recovery mode. What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StrongPasswords
[08:01] <Zaire> well I think I got all the files I needed backed up off the computer now its gonna be an adventure formatting and changing the OS since it has no floppy drive nor CD drive in it lol
[08:01] <abattoir> Breadmachine: Cannot run command? that's weird...
[08:01] <abattoir> are you sure? krandrtray ?
[08:02] <Breadmachine> abattoir: does it matter that im running adept for a bunch of updates?
[08:02] <abattoir> Breadmachine: nope, that shouldnt matter...
[08:02] <abattoir> no typos?
[08:02] <eightiesk> how do i change my password in Ubuntu
[08:03] <DaSkreech> eightiesk: passwd
[08:03] <Lynoure> eightiesk: fastest way: open konsole, type     passwd
[08:03] <abattoir> eightiesk: passwd
[08:03] <Breadmachine> abattoir: highest i can go si 1024x768, but im wanting 1280x1024
[08:03] <jerry> how do you get so fat that you're on the brink of death
[08:03] <Breadmachine> jerry: be like me and become a web developer
[08:03] <abattoir> Breadmachine: hmm for that i think you need to mess around w/ your nvidia drivers, i'm not familiar w/ that, sorry
[08:03] <abattoir> !nvidia
[08:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:04] <jerry> are you so fat that you have to lay on a bed 24hrs a day that tissue from your body seeps outside your body and that if you stop breathing that noone can save you?
[08:06] <Breadmachine> jerry: well, not yet anyway
[08:06] <julien> exit
[08:06] <julien> sorry
[08:06] <jerry> well don't
[08:06] <jerry> this is painful
[08:06] <DaSkreech> Breadmachine: You could reconfigure X
[08:07] <DaSkreech> jerry: OT!
[08:11] <Zaire> I was thinking of doing my next computer case in a Decepticon theme with Chameleon Dark purple paint
[08:13] <Lynoure> Zaire: dark purple always sounds good
[08:13] <Zaire> yea and the chameleon paint will be a nice touch to so it changes color in deifferent lights :)
[08:13] <Breadmachine> does anyone here have experience with nvidia drivers?
[08:14] <Zaire> sorta....depends on what your trying to do
[08:15] <Zaire> Breadmachine what do you want to do that you require the drivers?
[08:17] <Breadmachine> Zaire: increase my resolution, but kubuntu is being crappy about it
[08:17] <Zaire> whats your res right now?
[08:18] <Breadmachine> mainly all i want to do is llok at my ntfs partitions from within linux so i can get a path for wine
[08:18] <ChefWill> y
[08:18] <Breadmachine> 1024x768
[08:18] <Breadmachine> i want 1280x1024
[08:18] <Zaire> do you have a driver installed right now in kubuntu though?
[08:20] <Breadmachine> i have one installed, nvidia-glx, but im still having trouble
[08:20] <Zaire> k you need to enable the driver after install
[08:21] <Zaire> I found out the hard way lol
[08:22] <Zaire> this is the line you need for enabling it sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:22] <Zaire> dunno if it will help alot but try that first
[08:22] <Breadmachine> no go
[08:22] <Zaire> did it just skip down a line?
[08:23] <Zaire> hmmm that line should have worked :( did it give you an error?
[08:23] <oomph> zaire: did you run automatix?
[08:24] <Zaire> me nope
[08:24] <oomph> i think automatix setup my nvidia stuff
[08:24] <Zaire> I just used apt got the glx driver then enabled it
[08:24] <oomph> yeah, i had a problem with it too
[08:24] <Zaire> after that worked fine
[08:25] <Zaire> the first damn time I didn't have to edit my xorg lol
[08:25] <oomph> i ended up having to dl the kernel headers
[08:25] <oomph> and installing the driver the other way
[08:25] <Zaire> thats only for the binary driver straight from the nvidia sight
[08:25] <Zaire> site*
[08:25] <oomph> aye, that is what i ended up doing :P
[08:25] <oomph> but i think i used automatix for my second install
[08:26] <Breadmachine> automatix?
[08:26] <Breadmachine> < is a linux noob
[08:26] <Zaire> well I had done that to but then I noticed a little thing in the nvidia driver doc that said you had to enable the drivers lol
[08:26] <exceswater> hehe
[08:26] <bam_> anyone know how to add delete to the fight click context menu?
[08:27] <Zaire> I been messing with linux for atleast 5 years now lol
[08:27] <exceswater> i never used linux until 3 weeks ago
[08:27] <exceswater> :d
[08:27] <exceswater> and i had to give up that win...
[08:27] <oomph> exceswater: i began using it when dapper first came out
[08:27] <RawSewage> let me know if you have any questions
[08:27] <RawSewage> Im a veteran
[08:27] <RawSewage> I used it for 4 weeks
[08:27] <exceswater> it's sitting now in Trash :d
[08:28] <exceswater> it's hard for me
[08:28] <oomph> RawSewage in fact raws was in this channel the day i began
[08:28] <exceswater> i am kinda gamer
[08:28] <RawSewage> it wasnt hard for me
[08:28] <RawSewage> I switched 100%
[08:28] <exceswater> and i cannot play so many games now
[08:28] <Zaire> Cedega
[08:28] <oomph> exceswater i switched my non-gaming machines over to linux
[08:28] <exceswater> i still got my home computer on win
[08:28] <oomph> exceswater cedega works well for some games
[08:28] <RawSewage> oomph,  didnt you use Ubuntu before
[08:28] <exceswater> i still got a "gaming machine"
[08:29] <exceswater> home :D
[08:29] <oomph> RawSewage for like a day
[08:29] <Zaire> this is my gaming machine lol
[08:29] <exceswater> but here windows is 100 euro
[08:29] <Zaire> 100% pure linux lol
[08:29] <exceswater> not nice :d
[08:29] <oomph> RawSewage i spent a few days evaluating xandros/mepis and kubuntu
[08:29] <Zaire> in 5 years Ive used about 23 diff distros
[08:30] <exceswater> hehe nice
[08:30] <RawSewage> Cedega works well for you?
[08:30] <oomph> RawSewage i ended up deciding on Kanotix for my laptops and Kubuntu for my older desktops
[08:30] <Zaire> not always lol but I liked debian so when I heard Kubuntu was based off of it I had to get it
[08:30] <exceswater> is kanotix nice ?
[08:30] <oomph> RawSewage: yeah, ive had decent results with cedega thus far
[08:30] <Zaire> yea its pretty good from what Ive seen
[08:30] <RawSewage> what games
[08:31] <RawSewage> Is Cedega also good for some apps that Wine cant handle?
[08:31] <oomph> exceswater Kanotix is really nice
[08:31] <Zaire> Ive played half life 1 on it and it runs better then in windows
[08:31] <exceswater> 10x
[08:31] <oomph> exceswater way more current and more hardware support/ i586
[08:31] <exceswater> i finished half life 2
[08:31] <oomph> exceswater my laptops run way faster on it
[08:31] <exceswater> but i am pirate :D
[08:31] <exceswater> i cannot buy games here
[08:31] <Zaire> I wouldn't mind getting 2 myself lol
[08:31] <exceswater> or maybe
[08:31] <RawSewage> oomph, did you try Xubuntu
[08:32] <exceswater> a game / month
[08:32] <exceswater>  :D
[08:32] <oomph> RawSewage yes, i run Xubuntu on an old pentium2 laptop :)
[08:32] <Zaire> Im broke thats why I only own a few games and they are the ones I play at lan parties
[08:32] <exceswater> don't u work Zaire
[08:32] <exceswater> ?
[08:32] <RawSewage> what games wont run on Linux?
[08:32] <oomph> RawSewage i've run WoW on Cedega and Eve Online
[08:33] <RawSewage> WoW is supposed to run well
[08:33] <Zaire> Im unemployed right now but pretty much will be in a job tuesday
[08:33] <oomph> RawSewage yes, runs really well
[08:33] <exceswater> what u work Zaire
[08:33] <Zaire> carpentry
[08:33] <exceswater> nice
[08:33] <exceswater> do u know much about linux distros :D ?
[08:33] <Zaire> the place Im gonna be working at is a flooring company
[08:34] <Zaire> me sorta
[08:34] <exceswater> nice
[08:34] <exceswater> i am glad for you
[08:34] <RawSewage> eww work
[08:34] <exceswater> eeew
[08:35] <exceswater> for all the guys here who are good at linux
[08:35] <exceswater> or something else
[08:35] <exceswater> www.rentacoder.com
[08:35] <exceswater> and you can make some nice money there
[08:35] <exceswater> :D
[08:35] <exceswater> i made 40 dollars (US) for 3 logos :d
[08:36] <RawSewage> hehe
[08:36] <RawSewage> cool
[08:36] <Zaire> off the top of my head debian woody, debian sarge, kubuntu dapper, kubuntu breezy, kubuntu breezy 64 Bit, Ubuntu breezy, mandrake 9.2, mandrake 10.1, mandriva 10.2, mandrake 10.0, redhat 9, fedora core 1, fedora core 3, fedora core 5, Suse 10.0 64 bit, damn small linux and Xubuntu those are ones I can name off the top of my head that Ive used
[08:37] <exceswater> by the way
[08:37] <RawSewage> Knoppix?
[08:37] <exceswater> is any1 here
[08:37] <exceswater> who is good at PHONES ?
[08:37] <exceswater> i have some questions
[08:38] <Zaire> damn thats 17 distros Ive used that I actually can remember just off top of head lol
[08:38] <oomph> yeah, ive tried most of them too
[08:39] <oomph> exceswater im decent with phones /voip
[08:39] <Zaire> lol gotta try em all before you can really chose one
[08:39] <exceswater> i have a nokia 6600 and a nokia 9500 comunicator
[08:39] <exceswater> :D
[08:39] <exceswater> my problem is that :D
[08:39] <exceswater> i have to go to greece in autumn
[08:39] <exceswater> september
[08:39] <exceswater> and i am afraid i can get lost there
[08:39] <exceswater> :d
[08:40] <RawSewage> maybe install KStars
[08:40] <exceswater> so i can borrow a mini gps device
[08:40] <exceswater> but i cannot find some maps for my phone
[08:40] <exceswater> some like tom tom
[08:40] <exceswater> etc :d
[08:40] <RawSewage> um
[08:40] <RawSewage> Google Maps?
[08:41] <abattoir> exceswater: are you willing to pay? or do you want free solutions?
[08:41] <exceswater> free solution
[08:41] <abattoir> oh, ok :)
[08:41] <exceswater> one solution with pay would be to buy a low price palm
[08:41] <exceswater> :D
[08:41] <abattoir> there are lots of S60 applications, most are pay...
[08:41] <exceswater> and i know someone who can help me with some maps
[08:42] <oomph> mapquest sends you direction but probably only in US
[08:42] <abattoir> there are places online though, which put them up illegally :(
[08:42] <exceswater> but that would be around 250 euros
[08:42] <exceswater> where abattoir
[08:42] <exceswater> :d
[08:42] <abattoir> ugh, i dont know, even if i did, i wouldnt tell you ;)
[08:43] <exceswater> nice case Zaire
[08:43] <exceswater> :D
[08:43] <scheuri> hi all
[08:43] <exceswater> abattoir:  bad bad bad
[08:43] <Zaire> thx :)
[08:43] <abattoir> :)
[08:43] <exceswater> i wanna change my case too
[08:44] <Zaire> I did all but the paint job my dad insisted on doing the paintjob cause I used car paint for the colors lol
[08:44] <exceswater> but for now i only have a penguin sticker on a side
[08:44] <Lynoure> My laptop case is still virginal
[08:44] <exceswater> a counter strike sticker
[08:44] <exceswater> :D
[08:44] <exceswater> i dream for a laptop
[08:44] <Lynoure> Most stickers are just plain boring
[08:44] <exceswater> but maybe next year
[08:44] <exceswater> :d
[08:45] <exceswater> i spent my money on a car :D
[08:45] <exceswater> hehe laptop has to wait now
[08:45] <Lynoure> exceswater: I got it but with the price of having to give up my desktop at home
[08:45] <Zaire> for the paint on that case I used GM Metalic Saphire Blue and GM Oldsmobile Cutlass Red
[08:46] <Zaire> like $200 worth of paint lol
[08:46] <oomph> RawSewage you try cedega yet?
[08:46] <exceswater> nice nice
[08:46] <Zaire> did all the cutting with a rotary tool even for the O and R in foxfire
[08:47] <exceswater> hehe
[08:47] <usp8riot> anyone know why when i start a certain game my screen goes blank and get an error about the refresh rate or something
[08:47] <exceswater> i remembered something
[08:47] <exceswater> :D
[08:47] <Zaire> was interesting thats for sure
[08:47] <usp8riot> do i need to edit my x config?
[08:47] <exceswater> i had an idea about mounting a laptop screen on my desktop sidfe
[08:47] <exceswater> side :d
[08:47] <scheuri> usp8riot: probabaly because the game uses a certain resolution which is out of range or sync
[08:47] <exceswater> but it seems like they are not compatible
[08:48] <Zaire> can be done excesswater just very expensive from what Ive heard on casemodgod.com
[08:48] <usp8riot> scheuri: i'm sure of that but do i edit the config in the game or in my x config?
[08:48] <usp8riot> the next time i run a game that does that it just doesn't start at all
[08:48] <RawSewage> oomph, no
[08:48] <exceswater> it doesn't pay if it's expensive
[08:48] <scheuri> usp8riot: I'd guess in game. not x-config..
[08:49] <Zaire> yea from what Ive heard its cheaper to buy an lcd monitor brand new lol
[08:49] <oomph> RawSewage what type of hardware you run?
[08:49] <Zaire> Ive seen it done though I mean you could check it out they have other cases on casemodgod
[08:50] <exceswater> then
[08:50] <exceswater> install a lcd on a desktop side :D
[08:50] <exceswater> this would be nice
[08:50] <exceswater> to have all in 1
[08:50] <Zaire> pretty much Ive seen one on the site with dual lcd lol
[08:51] <amadeus_> can anyone here help me with defining default web browsers on kubuntu?
[08:51] <RawSewage> oomph, p4 2ghz    512 ram   GEForce 4200
[08:51] <amadeus_> or just default applications in general
[08:51] <oomph> RawSewage what games do you play on it?
[08:52] <oomph> RawSewage if any?
[08:52] <exceswater> i had seen that one 2
[08:52] <exceswater> few minutes ago
[08:52] <exceswater> ugly
[08:52] <exceswater> really
[08:52] <exceswater> way too ugly
[08:52] <exceswater> to clip them together with that metal stripe :d
[08:52] <exceswater> redneck modding
[08:52] <exceswater> :d
[08:52] <RawSewage> oomph, none now
[08:53] <RawSewage> oomph, I used to play Asheron's Call a lot
[08:53] <oomph> RawSewage ahh cool
[08:54] <oomph> RawSewage kanotix is very current, they got some nice scripts to help with common install issues. I'm digging it
[08:56] <RawSewage> oomph, I havent heard of that one
[08:56] <oomph> what is a good ftp server aside from pro?
[08:57] <jbrouhard> pro what ?
[08:57] <oomph> proftpd
[08:57] <jbrouhard> Oh
[08:57] <oomph> RawSewage http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/kanotix/preview/
[08:57] <jbrouhard> <-- uses only ProFtpd
[08:57] <jbrouhard> wuftpd is also available (but i hear it's still hackable..)
[08:58] <oomph> jbrouhard: what is a good gui frontend for configuring pro?
[08:58] <jbrouhard> Never used one ;)
[08:58] <Zaire> ummm can't remember but how do your purge programs from kubuntu again lol
[08:58] <oomph> dpkg --purge
[08:58] <jbrouhard> I do believe there is an add-on for webmin to let you configure proftpd
[08:59] <Zaire> ah thx lol
[08:59] <oomph> apt-get remove --purge
[08:59] <oomph> i always liked servuftp on windows
[08:59] <oomph> but i messed with pro some a long time ago
[08:59] <oomph> used webmin to admin it
[08:59] <Shizboom> there is a gui for proftp somewhere but even with that i just gave up and started using ssh :P
[09:00] <Shizboom> since i already had an ssh server up
[09:00] <oomph> will standalone proftpd use its own user database?
[09:00] <oomph> or does it require system user accounts
[09:01] <Zaire> oooh the P2 400 of mine so far has 94 object that are a threat found by adaware lol
[09:01] <oomph> convert it to linux
[09:02] <Zaire> will be soo I just want to see how much crap is in  it cause my bro inlaw has had it for 9 years with no format or scan done lol
[09:02] <Zaire> gotta satisfy curiosity lol
[09:02] <jbrouhard> Proftpd is highly configurable..
[09:03] <jbrouhard> i've been able to tie it into OpenLDAP before, but as stand-alone with no tie-ins, it relies on system accounts.
[09:03] <ChefWill> what is the darn shortcut that lets ou click a process to kill?
[09:03] <Zaire> up to 143
[09:03] <jbrouhard> if you want to use a separate user DB.. tie it into an SQL of some kind or use a flat text file
[09:05] <oomph> jbrouhard flat text file will probably be plenty
[09:05] <oomph> jbrouhard so when i isntall it, I should not make it a standalone?
[09:10] <Zaire> oooo quiet lol
[09:11] <jbrouhard> oomph: default install *IS* stand alone
[09:15] <exces__> hey pplz
[09:15] <exces__> i have a problem
[09:15] <exces__> i saved a few pics in my comp
[09:15] <exces__> in a folder
[09:15] <exces__> and the folder looks empty
[09:15] <exces__> with konqueror
[09:15] <exces__> if i open it with gentoo
[09:15] <exces__> i see the files
[09:16] <exces__> dunno how to open them
[09:16] <exces__> but konqueror doesn't see them
[09:16] <exces__> why
[09:18] <Zaire> 164 items found lol
[09:28] <usp8riot> anyone in here use quanta?
[09:28] <usp8riot> i'm just trying it out and the second page i load it won't display
[09:29] <LionRock> is possible that I turn on kde desktop sharing throught console ?
[09:34] <Zaire> oh wow not as many items detected by adaware as I thought there would be but still lol 311 items lol
[09:55] <krinns> hi all i have amd 64 machine with high, point, rocket, raid 1640 conroller
[09:55] <krinns> how i pick that controller in kubuntu
[09:55] <krinns> any one works on hihg point
[09:58] <_rince_> mrgn
[10:20] <oomph> anyone know what ports need to be open in order to enable freenx?
[10:21] <visik7> 22
[10:22] <oomph> oh ya? it uses ssh port by default?
[10:25] <zorglu1> it goes on top of ssh
[10:25] <zorglu1> aka your ssh account will still work
[10:38] <dendraya> hi guys
[10:38] <dendraya> i have a problem: i can't log-in into kubuntu
[10:38] <dendraya> username/passwd is right but it seems to be a problem with kde?
[10:38] <Lynoure> dendraya: You get an error? Or what happens?
[10:39] <dendraya> if i log-in there is for about a second a black display with a watch and then i'm back at the log-in screen
[10:40] <zorglu1> try in text
[10:40] <zorglu1> do ctrl-alt-f1, you will get a text loggin
[10:40] <dendraya> it works in text but i want to have a gui
[10:40] <zorglu1> so loggin succeed in text ?
[10:40] <dendraya> yes
[10:40] <zorglu1> ok so the issue is not the username+passwd
[10:41] <zorglu1> maybe some apps which are launched by kde when you login
[10:41] <zorglu1> maybe some X issue
[10:41] <zorglu1> it can be many things
[10:41] <dendraya> :(
[10:41] <dendraya> maybe wine??
[10:41] <Netcad> ./ara do-g016 | grep uid= | grep -v filter | cut -d = -f 2 | cut -d , -f 1 ; ./ara do-g016 | grep macaddress: | cut -d , -f 3 <--- this one gives me results on separate lines. what should I replace ; with in order to get the results on the same line?
[10:42] <zorglu1> dendraya: i dunno, try all the failsafe you can
[10:42] <zorglu1> dendraya: look at logs. /var/log/Xorgsomething
[10:43] <zorglu1> i dunno if kde log its 'boot' session
[10:43] <zorglu1> look for /var/log/kdmsomething maybe
[10:43] <dendraya> zorglu1: ok, i will... btw, how can i start the x-server from commandline?
[10:43] <zorglu1> dendraya: i dunno, this is a pain :) in the past "startx" was working
[10:44] <dendraya> ah, ok, then i'll first take a look at the logs...
[10:59] <exces__> hey
[10:59] <exces__> plz tell me how can i set up the printer in kubuntu
[10:59] <Ash-Fox> exces__, I'd use cups
[11:00] <Ash-Fox> exces__, just open this page: http://localhost:631/
[11:01] <Ash-Fox> This should let you configure everything :)
[11:02] <exces__> 10x Ash-Fox
[11:02] <exces__> i have a local network...
[11:02] <exces__> and the other comp is on win
[11:03] <Ash-Fox> exces__, install the 'printing services for unix' service on the windows computer
[11:03] <Ash-Fox> exces__, it should be in the network card settings, where you can enable/disable/uinstall/install additional networking protocols
[11:04] <exces__> k
[11:04] <exces__> i try
[11:04] <exces__> 10x
[11:04] <Ash-Fox> exces__, this will work with cups :)
[11:04] <oomph> j #cedega
[11:05] <Ash-Fox> pirate!
[11:10] <liviux> hi all
[11:10] <Ash-Fox> Hello
[11:14] <drewfus> hi
[11:14] <drewfus> for some reason my usb flash drive is only showing 4 megs of freespace, and i know for a fact it has 128 and is empty.  can anyone help me with this?
[11:15] <Ash-Fox> Tried formatting it?
[11:16] <drewfus> i plugged it in and it came up.  i moved a bunch of files off of it to make room for some mp3's and now it says i only have 4 megs
[11:16] <Ash-Fox> Did you try formatting it?
[11:17] <drewfus> no
[11:17] <drewfus> if i format it on linux, will that mean i cant read it on an xp system?
[11:17] <Ash-Fox> No, it should format it as vfat/fat32 by default
[11:18] <Ash-Fox> (which is the filesystems that windows xp uses)
[11:19] <drewfus> ok.  how do i format it in ubuntu?
[11:22] <Ash-Fox> I'd use a more manual method typing in the console 'mkdosfs /dev/sda1' (if /dev/sda1 is the device), or you could right click it in the media: directory in konqueror
[11:24] <Ash-Fox> actually, the proper url is 'system:/media' in konqueror, just right click the device and click 'format' :)
[11:26] <fek_> moin
[11:27] <drewfus> ok, hang on
[11:27] <drewfus> it says permission denied when i do that in konsole
[11:28] <drewfus> i dont think i have konquerer
[11:32] <exceswater> hello pplz
[11:32] <exceswater> can any1 help me
[11:32] <exceswater> i need a DEMONOID invitation
[11:32] <exceswater> can u give me one
[11:32] <exceswater> ??
[11:32] <etiopica> hola :)
[11:32] <etiopica> ug
[11:34] <Ash-Fox> drewfus, if you're using kubuntu, you're most likely under kde, and definately have konqueror then
[11:34] <Ash-Fox> it's the kde file manager.
[11:34] <drewfus> oh, wait, im in the wrong room
[11:34] <drewfus> im using ubuntu
[11:34] <drewfus> heh
[11:34] <Ash-Fox> blargh
[11:35] <Ash-Fox> sudo mkdosfs /dev/sda1
[11:35] <Ash-Fox> assuming /dev/sda1 is your usb device, becareful, if sda1 is your harddrive you'll be destroying you primary harddrive.
[11:35] <Ash-Fox> err destroying the data on your primary harddrive.
[11:35] <drewfus> ok, hang on
[11:37] <drewfus> is that all i have to type?
[11:37] <drewfus> sigh, im so new my paint is wet:)
[11:40] <kjauhiainen> heissan
[11:40] <kjauhiainen> jag r katjuska
[11:40] <krinns> hi all i have amd 64 machine with high, point, rocket, raid 1640 conroller  how i pick that controller in kubuntu
[11:43] <Ash-Fox> krinns, kernel should automatically support it out of the box, just make sure you got the relevent kernel modules installed
[11:44] <Ash-Fox> (assuming that raid controller is supported by kubuntu's kernel)
[11:46] <Ash-Fox> God it's so hot I feel really ill.
[11:49] <drewfus> ok, i just figured it out ash-fox.  there was a trash folder on the usb drive.  i didnt know linux made those
[11:49] <drewfus> thats why i had no space
[11:50] <Ash-Fox> err.. linux doesn't
[11:51] <Ash-Fox> Gnome does though by default, KDE doesn't though.
[11:51] <drewfus> ah, gotcha
[11:51] <drewfus> thanks for your help.  its appreciated
[11:51] <Ash-Fox> no problem.
[11:51] <krinns> Ash-Fox i do
[11:51] <krinns> i compile open source
[11:52] <Ash-Fox> krinns, you compile open source, what does that mean?
[11:52] <krinns> driver
[11:53] <krinns> high point raid controller on their site
[11:53] <krinns> when i add taht driver before starting the installer its add
[11:53] <Ash-Fox> You will need the kernel sources or kernel headers for your kernel to compile the module.
[11:53] <Ash-Fox> Assuming that kernel module isn't already in the repository.
[11:53] <krinns> but then i run installer and create partitions it hangs
[11:54] <krinns> already did that
[11:54] <Ash-Fox> krinns, what does /var/log/syslog say about your issues?
[11:54] <krinns> then i take compiled driver in floppy and insmod driver before running installer
[11:54] <krinns> it says Raid controller pick the raid
[11:55] <krinns> conrtooler and make 2 drives as single drive /dev/sda
[11:55] <krinns> then i run installer and make partitions but it hangs their
[11:55] <krinns> is this fare raid controller
[11:56] <Ash-Fox> krinns, I truely believe /var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages would contain information on what happened.
[12:00] <krinns> ok wait il show u logs
[12:00] <Sunnyblizard> Hey guys!
[12:01] <Sunnyblizard> Does someone know how to make the fuse kernel load on strup
[12:01] <Sunnyblizard> startup*
[12:02] <Sunnyblizard> So, i have to make the command 'modprobe fuse', execute on startup?
[12:03] <Ash-Fox> I would think you would only need todo it once, then it should startup with the system, provided whatever hardware it uses is there.
[12:03] <Ash-Fox> Otherwise it would be a good idea to add it somewhere /etc/modprobe.d/
[12:03] <Ash-Fox> *somewhere in
[12:05] <krinns> well i add it in /etc/modules
[12:06] <krinns> ash see logs http://pastebin.ca/83965
[12:06] <krinns> as soon as i do sudo insmdo hpt274.ko
[12:06] <krinns> it sens lods and a popup come up with new disk
[12:07] <Ash-Fox> partitioning still a problem?
[12:07] <Ash-Fox> kpart / parted / fdisk / cfdisk
[12:08] <krinns> yes
[12:08] <krinns> it hangs
[12:08] <krinns> then i reboot and redo all things
[12:08] <krinns> the it hangs on file system check
[12:08] <Ash-Fox> Okay, are you able to switch to another terminal when it's frozen?
[12:08] <krinns> no
[12:09] <krinns> even mouse pointer hangs too
[12:09] <krinns> am afraid its fake raid
[12:11] <Ash-Fox> krinns, I'm quite powerless without logs :/
[12:11] <krinns> see logs i send u
[12:11] <krinns> logs http://pastebin.ca/83965
[12:11] <krinns> u see at this webpage
[12:12] <Ash-Fox> Yes, I saw, but it didn't show any fatal errors from what I saw (which was a bit hard to read since everything was on one line)
[12:12] <krinns> oh
[12:12] <krinns> sorry
[12:13] <Ash-Fox> Although I find the "Driver 'sd' needs updating" message interesting.
[12:14] <Sunnyblizard> so, this should do it, in etc/modules/:
[12:14] <Sunnyblizard> lp
[12:14] <Sunnyblizard> psmouse
[12:14] <Sunnyblizard> modprobe fuse
[12:14] <Ash-Fox> Googling it seems to show it's really common with ubuntu kernels.
[12:14] <Sunnyblizard> damn, forget to start kate as root :P
[12:14] <krinns> see now http://pastebin.ca/83967
[12:15] <Ash-Fox> krinns, does your kernel have SMP?
[12:16] <Sunnyblizard> brb
[12:17] <zaba> Hello
[12:17] <zaba> I need help i dont have change Theme for kde :(
[12:18] <Ash-Fox> zaba, run kcontrol
[12:18] <zaba> I dont have Kcontrol in menu :(
[12:19] <Ash-Fox> zaba, that's why I asked you to run it :)
[12:19] <Ash-Fox> K -> run -> kcontrol
[12:19] <Ash-Fox> err K -> Run command -> kcontrol
[12:20] <patrick_> lu
[12:20] <krinns> SMP means
[12:20] <krinns> Ash?
[12:21] <Ash-Fox> krinns, SMP is a feature used in the kernel for multiple proccessors, I do believe the default kubuntu kernel boots from a SMP kernel, it sometimes causes weird issues. So if you're booting from the default, try booting the installer with a non-smp kernel.
[12:22] <Ash-Fox> (it should be on the installer cd)
[12:37] <kojak> how do u create a user in ubunt
[12:38] <gemidjy> kojak: #ubuntu
[12:39] <Sunnyblizard> Yeay, fuse kernel loads on startup now :)
[12:39] <Sunnyblizard> Next problemm, hoe do i execute this command on startup: ntfsmount /dev/hda2 /mnt/c -o fmask=0111,dmask=0 ?
[12:39] <kojak> gemidjy: ?
[12:40] <gemidjy> kojak: u use ubuntu?
[12:40] <kojak> yes
[12:40] <gemidjy> this is #kubuntu
[12:40] <kojak> reallY? wow
[12:40] <Sunnyblizard> lol
[12:42] <Ash-Fox> Sunnyblizard, cat /etc/mtab pull out the mount line in there, then add it to /etc/fstab
[12:43] <krinns> Ash
[12:43] <krinns> u see the logs
[12:44] <Ash-Fox> krinns, yes, I saw A log.
[12:44] <Sunnyblizard> Thanks ash-fox, sould i delete the line in mtab ?
[12:44] <Sunnyblizard> should*
[12:45] <Ash-Fox> Sunnyblizard, no, mtab is just a file that keeps the currently mounted device
[12:45] <Sunnyblizard> I see :)
[12:45] <Sunnyblizard> Thanks
[12:45] <Ash-Fox> err currently mounted devices
[12:45] <Ash-Fox> fstab is read on startup and devices are automatically mounted usually from it, unless specified otherwise in certain parameters.
[12:45] <Sunnyblizard> Ok, brb, reboot ;)
[12:46] <Sunnyblizard> i see^^
[12:46] <Sunnyblizard> brb
[12:46] <shriphani> i got a question
[12:46] <Ash-Fox> shriphani, go ahead
[12:46] <shriphani> can anyone tell me what i need to install for playing mp3's in amarok
[12:46] <Ash-Fox> krinns, have you tried booting from a non-smp kernel and tried partition editing again?
[12:47] <shriphani> in ubuntu i did a gstreamer0.8-mad
[12:47] <Ash-Fox> !restricted
[12:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:47] <shriphani> thank you v much :)
[12:47] <Ash-Fox> =)
[12:52] <krinns> Ash
[12:52] <krinns> what u mean
[12:52] <krinns> SMP is
[12:52] <krinns> 64 bit kernel right
[12:53] <Ash-Fox> Isn't SMP on 32bit kernels too?
[01:00] <usp8riot> anyone in here know c programming?
[01:00] <Ash-Fox> #c
[01:01] <Lynoure> usp8riot: some, but I bet there is #c too
[01:01] <Ash-Fox> Sorry the proper channel is ##C
[01:01] <centyx> hi. using amarok 1.4.1, having trouble getting it to play flac. I've installed flac and libflac7. what else do I need to do?
[01:01] <krinns> what u mean
[01:02] <krinns> plz clarify
[01:02] <usp8riot> ok, i tried compling a prog and get an error on a few lines "syntax error before string constant"
[01:02] <usp8riot> perror (__FUNCTION__ ": malloc"); - apparently that's what's getting errors
[01:02] <usp8riot> is it because i may be using a different version compiler?
[01:03] <usp8riot> i don't program, i'm merely investigating why the program got the errors
[01:05] <Ash-Fox> gcc4 instead of gcc3.
[01:05] <Ash-Fox> if you compile it with gcc3, it should be fine.
[01:06] <usp8riot> is there a way to choose which compiler i use in the command line?
[01:07] <Ash-Fox> yeah.. type gcc3 instead of gcc4 in to compile the code...
[01:07] <Ash-Fox> (assuming gcc3 is even installed)
[01:08] <usp8riot> i'm not getting anything for gcc3 or 4
[01:08] <usp8riot> says 'command not found'
[01:08] <Ash-Fox> If you're using a makefile, you'll have to look at how the makefile was made and 'fix' it.
[01:09] <usp8riot> i'm in trouble there, i don't know how to program
[01:10] <krinns> Sh u there
[01:10] <krinns> Ash
[01:10] <Ash-Fox> krinns, yes.
[01:10] <krinns> what u understand by logs
[01:11] <Ash-Fox> krinns, one minute
[01:15] <Ash-Fox> krinns https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDapperKnownProblems#head-56968a1267577eca731b2d9e9cf53b58033dc5dd
[01:16] <Ash-Fox> krinns, is that related?
[01:17] <krinns> wait let me check
[01:18] <krinns> what this is
[01:18] <krinns> wont think so
[01:20] <Ash-Fox> krinns, okay, could you boot your linux system with the parameters 'noapic nolapic' in grub, and see if you can partition properly?
[01:21] <krinns> i ahve kubunt
[01:21] <yalu> Q: if you install a program, how does it en up in the kde menu? it appears ubuntu doesn't install the Debian menu system by default (no update-menus available)
[01:21] <krinns> ihow i boot kubuntu like that
[01:21] <usp8riot> any c coders in here yet?
[01:21] <krinns> i am new to kubuntu
[01:22] <bluesceada> hi
[01:22] <bluesceada> how can i update to edgy ?
[01:22] <bluesceada> i know it's "bleeding edge"
[01:22] <bluesceada> and still not complete..
[01:22] <bluesceada> but i hope it has more advanced acpi/apm support
[01:22] <Ash-Fox> bluesceada, change repsositories and run apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade
[01:22] <bluesceada> i think that this could be a problem of my laptop freezing sometimse
[01:23] <Ash-Fox> krinns, blah.. this is a headache
[01:23] <bluesceada> Ash-Fox: oh just that?
[01:23] <bluesceada> ?
[01:23] <Ash-Fox> bluesceada, should be just that
[01:23] <bluesceada> mm okay
[01:23] <bluesceada> so change the "dapper" in the sources.list to "edgyeft" ??
[01:23] <bluesceada> or "edgy"
[01:23] <bluesceada> hm i will try
[01:23] <bluesceada> thanks
[01:26] <krinns> Ash
[01:26] <krinns> what i do
[01:26] <krinns> do u know abt fake raid
[01:26] <Ash-Fox> krinns, when grub appears on startup, hit 'e'. On the line that begins with 'kernel /boot/vmlin...." goto the end and add "noapic nolapic" to the end, then start linux
[01:26] <Ash-Fox> krinns, fake raid shouldn't cause the system to lock up the way it is for you.
[01:28] <Ash-Fox> krinns, linux shouldn't really lock up anything. So, it's just assumption that certain things are causing a lock up. I'm not sure if that will work, but if we find it's those options let you do what you want, we found the problem.
[01:29] <Ash-Fox> I'll also note that right now I'm not feeling well at all. And if I feel any worse, I may just goto bed.
[01:34] <inc|freaky> hi all. i just tried installing winxp on another partition on my hdd but it didnt work. anyway, it removed grub from the mbr - how can i restore that? (i have the kubuntu dapper dvd)
[01:35] <h3sp4wn> !grub
[01:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:35] <Sunnyblizard> Nice :)
[01:35] <inc|freaky> thx ;D
[01:38] <Lamington> Hello, I've just installed a new hard drive in my PC and made it a new primary partition with qtparted (is this ok ?) but I don't know how to get it to appear in system:/media
[01:38] <Emess> mount it
[01:38] <Emess> get its location from /dev/hdx
[01:38] <Emess> then mount /dev/hdx
[01:39] <Lamington> ok so mount /dev/sda1 (in this case)
[01:39] <Emess> yup
[01:39] <krinns> hum
[01:40] <Lamington> k thanks Emess
[01:40] <Emess> might need to sudo it depending on if you have non-root mounting enabled
[01:40] <Lamington> I will sudo it
[01:40] <Lamington> can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:41] <Emess> ah i had that same problem a while back, edit your fstab to include it
[01:41] <Emess> actually lemme see if i can find where i got help for it from
[01:41] <Lamington> uh ok
[01:42] <Ash-Fox> mount /dev/sda1 first, then copy the relevent line from /etc/mtab to /etc/fstab
[01:43] <Ash-Fox> by copying it to /etc/fstab, you ensure it will be automounted at boot.
[01:44] <Emess> i used the DiskMounter script for it
[01:45] <arso> hello
[01:45] <arso> having trouble. ....again
[01:46] <h3sp4wn> how ?
[01:46] <arso> hmm
[01:46] <Emess> lol, what si ti this tiem arso?
[01:47] <arso> got an ext3 partition
[01:47] <h3sp4wn> k
[01:47] <arso> ext3 driver for windows
[01:47] <arso> worked fine  read/write on windows/linux
[01:47] <arso> untill a few days, i would get access denied in linux if try ot copy from it
[01:47] <Ash-Fox> even as root?
[01:47] <arso> and "this drive is not formatted, uwanna format" on windows
[01:47] <Ash-Fox> try running fsck on it
[01:47] <arso> Ash-Fox:  yes
[01:48] <arso> ?
[01:48] <arso> running wat?, <newb here>
[01:48] <Ash-Fox> fsck is the 'scan disk' utility on linux
[01:48] <h3sp4wn> arso: Is it also your root partition ?
[01:48] <arso> no , its not
[01:48] <Ash-Fox> fsck.ext3 /dev/hdc3 for example, that will check the hdc drive, 3rd partition
[01:49] <arso> ok then, in konsole right?
[01:49] <Ash-Fox> yes
[01:49] <h3sp4wn> arso: It should be unmounted first
[01:49] <arso> oh
[01:49] <h3sp4wn> arso: sudo umount /whereitis/mounted
[01:49] <arso> ok i unmounted
[01:50] <h3sp4wn> then sudo fsck.ext3 (as above)
[01:50] <arso> ok
[01:50] <diop> can i read some .pub files (publisher) in ubuntu ?
[01:50] <arso> ok its doing its thing
[01:50] <diop> and how can i have the banlist in konversation ?
[01:51] <Emess> konversation? they still include that?
[01:51] <Ash-Fox> diop, microsoft publisher runs fine under wine here.
[01:51] <diop> i dont know Emess, i dont find
[01:51] <Ash-Fox> diop, not aware of any opensource software that can read publisher files though.
[01:52] <diop> ah under wine
[01:52] <Emess> what are you tring to find? the banlist for a channel? because thats nto part fo the client, its chanserv
[01:52] <arso> /dev/hdb5 contains a file system with errors, check forced.
[01:52] <arso> Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
[01:52] <arso> been like that for a while,
[01:53] <h3sp4wn> diop: .kde/share/config/konversationrc (bans are Ignore0=blah)
[01:53] <Lamington> bbs
[01:53] <diop> thanks h3sp4wn
[01:53] <diop> u 2 Ash-Fox THANKS
[01:53] <h3sp4wn> diop: I think there may be somewhere in the gui but I haven't found it yet
[01:54] <arso> h3sp4wn:  so, now wat?
[01:54] <arso> h3sp4wn:
[01:54] <arso> /dev/hdb5 contains a file system with errors, check forced.
[01:54] <arso> Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
[01:54] <arso> Pass 2: Checking directory structure
[01:54] <arso> Filesystem contains large files, but lacks LARGE_FILE flag in superblock.
[01:54] <h3sp4wn> Just wait until it finishes
[01:54] <diop> ok h3sp4wn
[01:54] <h3sp4wn> Its the windows ext3 driver which has probably messed it up
[01:55] <diop> :)
[01:56] <arso> h3sp4wn:  messed the partition?
[01:57] <arso> h3sp4wn:  so how do i get my data out of there, i am getting access denied here, its a 63gb drive FULL of data
[01:57] <h3sp4wn> arso: I wouldn't trust any windows ext3 driver
[01:57] <h3sp4wn> arso: Wait until fsck has finished
[01:58] <arso> how do i know its done?
[01:58] <arso> this is wat it shows "Fix<y>?"
[01:58] <h3sp4wn> press y
[01:58] <h3sp4wn> let it fix all of them
[01:58] <Emess> grrr adept wont open..
[02:00] <supervisor> hi
[02:00] <arso> h3sp4wn:
[02:00] <arso> Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
[02:00] <arso> Pass 4: Checking reference counts
[02:00] <arso> Pass 5: Checking group summary information
[02:00] <arso> /dev/hdb5: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED *****
[02:00] <arso> /dev/hdb5: 16052/7749632 files (75.0% non-contiguous), 13065985/15498693 blocks
[02:00] <h3sp4wn> arso: remount it then
[02:01] <arso> ok
[02:01] <arso> mounted
[02:01] <arso> when i copy/paste, still access denied
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> where is it mounted ?
[02:01] <arso> how do i find out
[02:03] <Ash-Fox> mount it under it's old name? mount /mnt/share ?
[02:03] <arso> i just right click>mount
[02:06] <Emess> is there any reasonm adept will only openw ithout root, being useless then?
[02:06] <arso> h3sp4wn:  u there buddy
[02:06] <Lamington> Hello again
[02:07] <Lamington> Just wondering, where is the appropriate place to mount my second hard drive ?
[02:07] <imbrandon> Emess, " kdesu adept "
[02:07] <imbrandon> Lamington, /meda/hdb ?
[02:08] <ccc_> Lamington: anyplace you like... /media could be a good place. i mount mine in my home dir
[02:08] <Lamington> oh ok, think I'll put it in /media then
[02:08] <Lamington> thanks :)
[02:11] <Lamington> Does anyone have an opinion on what might be considered the better filesystem for multimedia ?
[02:12] <arso> how do i become root?
[02:12] <bluesceada> arso: "sudo -s"
[02:13] <bluesceada> root shell at least
[02:13] <arso> wats root shell
[02:13] <arso> i am getting access denied when i try to paste somethign from a partition, i wanna fix that
[02:13] <bluesceada> arso: a root terminal/console
[02:14] <arso> so which command for an overall superuser
[02:14] <bluesceada> arso: open konsole, "sudo -s", then run konqueror from there
[02:14] <bluesceada> arso: that's a security hole, don't do it
[02:15] <Sunnyblizard> kdesu konqueror
[02:15] <Sunnyblizard> enter your password
[02:15] <Sunnyblizard> and you have a root konqeuror
[02:15] <bluesceada> Sunnyblizard: doest that work in kubuntu when it's just using sudo
[02:15] <mossman> sudo konqueror  will do the same
[02:16] <paddesan> Any swedish suport?
[02:16] <ccc_> Lamington: ext3 or reiserfs
[02:16] <ccc_> paddesan: #ubuntu-se
[02:16] <paddesan> Thx
[02:17] <Lamington> ty ccc_
[02:17] <arso> bluesceada:  security hole? so then wat do i do?  i cant write on my partition
[02:18] <Lamington> I'm getting an error when I try to mount it
[02:19] <Lamington> The system reported: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[02:19] <Lamington> missing codepage or other error
[02:19] <Lamington> In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[02:19] <Lamington> dmesg | tail or so
[02:20] <Lamington> [17190317.620000]  VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sda1.
[02:20] <Lamington> [17190813.408000]  ReiserFS: sda1: warning: sh-2021: reiserfs_fill_super: can not find reiserfs on sda1
[02:21] <Lamington> I've tried both
[02:23] <Dunedan> Is there a possibility to control which applications should be installed during the installation (with the alternate cd)?
[02:24] <bluesceada> arso: mount it as user :S
[02:24] <ccc_> Lamington: well, what format is it? you can't mount it without creating a file system first.
[02:24] <arso> bluesceada:  umm how :P
[02:24] <bluesceada> arso: or is it ntfs??
[02:25] <bluesceada> arso: should be by doing it in media:/
[02:25] <arso> bluesceada:  its ext3
[02:25] <bluesceada> ah
[02:29] <Lamington> ccc_: Its a reiserfs partition
[02:29] <Lamington> ccc_: oh just a sec
[02:31] <arso> bluesceada:  are u lost?
[02:31] <bluesceada> arso: ?
[02:31] <Lamington> ccc_: formatting as ext3 with qtparted now
[02:33] <arso> bluesceada:  any ideas ?
[02:34] <bluesceada> arso: ah you dont know how to do it??
[02:34] <bluesceada> just mount it..
[02:34] <bluesceada> then open a root console
[02:34] <bluesceada> you are probably not familiar with the terminal/console ??
[02:34] <bluesceada> :S
[02:34] <bluesceada> i dont know how it would work with a gui
[02:34] <bluesceada> kubuntu should be able to do it
[02:34] <bluesceada> but it seems it isnt :(
[02:34] <bluesceada> so you have to do it at terminal level
[02:34] <bluesceada> so open "konsole"
[02:34] <bluesceada> type "sudo -s"
[02:35] <bluesceada> then open with kwrite or so... "kwrite /etc/fstab"
[02:35] <bluesceada> then add to the partition "user" in the options
[02:35] <bluesceada> hmm
[02:35] <arso> bluesceada:  wow, THANX
[02:35] <bluesceada> ANYONE in here knows anything how to solve this at gui level in kubuntu ???
[02:35] <bluesceada> arso: but dont mess around with the fstab too much
[02:36] <arso> k
[02:36] <bluesceada> be careful
[02:36] <arso> i'll just follow ur instructions
[02:36] <bluesceada> paste me the line in here before you save it
[02:36] <arso> any chances of data loss from wat u said?
[02:36] <Ash-Fox> It's so much easier to describe as command line commands
[02:36] <ccc_> Lamington: ok :)
[02:36] <bluesceada> arso: just if you do it wrong, so show me what you changed before you save the file ;-)
[02:36] <arso> sure :) thnx
[02:37] <bluesceada> you're welcome
[02:37] <arso> weird thing is
[02:37] <arso> it worked fine for about a week
[02:37] <arso>  /dev/hdb5 /mnt/hdb5 auto defaults,users 0 0
[02:37] <arso> its currently like this
[02:37] <bluesceada> arso: hm damn, that should be right :S
[02:38] <bluesceada> arso: then close the file
[02:38] <bluesceada> close kwrite
[02:38] <bluesceada> now you are still in the root console
[02:38] <bluesceada> the file system is mounted right?
[02:38] <bluesceada> then do a "chown -R yourusername /mnt/hdb5"
[02:38] <arso> ya
[02:39] <bluesceada> that changes permissions of all files to your user
[02:39] <bluesceada> so you are the file owner then
[02:39] <arso> ic
[02:39] <bluesceada> then try it out before you close the (k,c)onsole ;-)
[02:39] <bluesceada> if you can write..
[02:40] <arso> i can
[02:40] <arso> yay :D
[02:40] <arso> so is this permanent, or does it change at reboot
[02:41] <Lamington> ccc_: woohoo, a new media has been detected ;)
[02:41] <ccc_> \o/
[02:41] <bluesceada> arso: permanent
[02:41] <bluesceada> you changed the file permissions on the file system
[02:42] <bluesceada> if you want to know more about those commands you can read man pages
[02:42] <bluesceada> by doing this on console: "man chmod" "man chown"
[02:42] <bluesceada> they describe quite well how to use these commands ;-)
[02:42] <Ash-Fox> it's nicer if you open them in konqueror using man:chmod or man:chown as the URLs
[02:42] <bluesceada> hmm
[02:43] <Ash-Fox> info:chmod I belive provided more info
[02:43] <bluesceada> hm yeh maybe
[02:43] <bluesceada> ahm..
[02:43] <bluesceada> anyone knows if there are any edgy iso's avaliable?
[02:44] <Ash-Fox> bluesceada, don't think so. Just change your repositories and do a update, dist-upgrade, upgrade
[02:44] <bluesceada> yeh i know, okay thanks
[02:45] <Ash-Fox> bluesceada, although if you want the latest stuff.. why not just stick with backports?
[02:45] <bluesceada> Ash-Fox: hm dunno .. how to use those?
[02:45] <bluesceada> and what does it mean exactly..?
[02:45] <bluesceada> will it also give me a kernel upgrade
[02:45] <Ash-Fox> backports are just the stuff from unstable, compiled on the stable version
[02:45] <bluesceada> and all the important stuff like acpi etc.
[02:45] <Ash-Fox> !easysource
[02:45] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:45] <bluesceada> Ash-Fox: ah and what is the difference to edgy then
[02:46] <bluesceada> i especially want the hardware near stuff to be more up to date
[02:46] <kakalto> I'm getting an error about klauncher on startup
[02:46] <Ash-Fox> edgy is a totally different version of the distro
[02:46] <kakalto> cannot connect to klauncher or something
[02:46] <bluesceada> i'm not familiar with versions, using gentoo since some years :D
[02:46] <Ash-Fox> backports just contain the latest applications from the new distro
[02:46] <bluesceada> Ash-Fox: that means new kernel ??
[02:46] <kakalto> and my whole desktop seems pretty unstable
[02:46] <bluesceada> Ash-Fox: also kernel etc. ?
[02:46] <Ash-Fox> no it doesn't
[02:46] <bluesceada> okay then i need edgy...
[02:47] <bluesceada> trying if it fixes my crashes (i still dont know where they come from exactly, but this might be the case=
[02:47] <Ash-Fox> why not just look in the logs?
[02:47] <kakalto> anyone?
[02:48] <Ash-Fox> bluesceada /var/log/ is your friend at diagnosing serious issues :)
[02:49] <Ash-Fox> Particulary the syslog file in there.
[02:49] <bluesceada> Ash-Fox: i know
[02:49] <bluesceada> but there is nothing
[02:49] <bluesceada> i also had hangs on this box without having logs of it ...
[02:49] <arso> hey guys
[02:49] <Lamington> Could someone explain (at least briefly) why 128meg of my new drive is being used by the filesystem ? Whats it using all that for ?
[02:49] <arso> a flash disk
[02:50] <arso> where does it get mounted
[02:50] <arso> in root
[02:50] <bluesceada> arso: maybe /media/something
[02:50] <arso> k thnx
[02:50] <Ash-Fox> Lamington, meta data, security descriptors, journaling etc.
[02:51] <Lamington> Ash-Fox: alrighty then :P
[02:51] <Ash-Fox> Lamington, depends on the filesystem really, usually that huge chunk it begins with is just reserved space for where information can grow
[02:52] <Lamington> Ash-Fox: ah rite... I'm using ext3
[02:52] <Ash-Fox> Lamington, journaling :)
[02:53] <Lamington> Ash-Fox: its all good then :)
[02:58] <whatever> hey guys
[03:00] <beavis> wasssssup
[03:01] <Lamington> hey
[03:01] <beavis> i have an observation about kubuntu x64
[03:02] <Lamington> whats that ?
[03:02] <beavis> its really sloow compared to suse x64 install ,
[03:02] <Lamington> I installed kubutnu x64 for a friend, didnt seem to take long
[03:03] <beavis> im not talking about the installation time ,
[03:03] <beavis> talking about the system
[03:03] <beavis> itself
[03:03] <Lamington> that seemed fine too
[03:04] <beavis> possibly, im just saying what ive seen on my machine
[03:04] <serveri> I can't find freetds binary for Ubuntu for AMDx64
[03:04] <serveri> Help me
[03:04] <larson9999> from what i've heard so far, i think i'll pass for now on amdx64
[03:05] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: why ?
[03:05] <beavis> ive used kubuntu x64 for about 4 weeks then i installed suse x64 and everything runs 10x faster on the same cpu
[03:05] <bluesceada> beavis: how so
[03:05] <larson9999> on 64 in general.  h3sp4wn i only hear about things not working and taking forever to get setup correctly
[03:05] <serveri> Help me, I can't find freetds binary
[03:05] <bluesceada> maybe you forget getting the correct drivers etc. ;-)
[03:05] <beavis> bluesceada: its just not sluggish anymore
[03:06] <Lamington> mmm drivers make all the difference
[03:06] <serveri> `whereis freetds` not helps
[03:06] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: Someone has written a wrapper for using 32bit firefox plugins on 64 bit
[03:06] <Lamington> I updated my nvidia driver recently
[03:06] <bluesceada> beavis: maybe you didnt install the graphics driver?
[03:06] <Lamington> boy did I get a speed boost
[03:06] <bluesceada> if you have ati or nvidia kubuntu wont install as it's not free... (if i'm right)
[03:06] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: i heard that but what people i know tell me who use it is that it's got issues
[03:07] <bluesceada> Lamington: hrhr ..
[03:07] <bluesceada> that's what beavis probably forgot
[03:07] <beavis> its something else , i installed the drivers
[03:07] <bluesceada> hm
[03:07] <h3sp4wn> larson9999: I am going to buy a 64 bit chip I think within a week or 2
[03:08] <larson9999> h3sp4wn: that and the fact i'm out of work now so a new system will have to wait anyway
[03:08] <beavis> i still like kubuntu , im just saying there might be something wrong with it , performance wise ,