[12:04] <acglaphotis> dremth: i had to go to the bathroom
[12:04] <mrpyrover666> evening everyone
[12:04] <dremth> acglaphotis, oh :)
[12:04] <stinger05> nucco:ethernet but it has a username and password
[12:05] <mrpyrover666> hey guys any1 else here have any openarena problems?
[12:05] <acglaphotis> dremth: Well, let me boot one and see the steps you have to take
[12:05] <acglaphotis> dremth: i wont disconnect
[12:05] <dremth> acglaphotis, i thought you meant for me to wait for a new release or something :D
[12:05] <mrpyrover666> ??
[12:05] <nucco> stinger05: strange. you used it on windows?
[12:05] <dremth> acglaphotis, ok
[12:05] <stinger05> yes sure
[12:05] <stinger05> i am now lol
[12:06] <ae88925> avalanche: did you modprobe nf_nat_ftp ?
[12:06] <acglaphotis> dremth: lol, i dont think it is being developed anymore
[12:06] <nucco> stinger05: are you talking about a proxy server?
[12:06] <stinger05> no
[12:06] <nucco> what kind of equipment?
[12:06] <stinger05> its a dedicated wireless ethernet connection
[12:07] <carlosV2> well, bye
[12:07] <ae88925> stinger: Is it PPPOE?
[12:07] <nucco> stinger05: wireless. there.
[12:07] <Brian_> whats better gnome or kde??
[12:07] <nucco> stinger05: you have network-manager installed?
[12:07] <dremth> acglaphotis, the reason i want to boot to ubuntu is so i can burn my entire root directory to a dvd because im reformatting. a friend told me i could just install ubuntu and then copy all my files from the dvd to the newly installed partition and itd be like i never changed anything
[12:07] <Nighthawk420> hey everyone...I have my printer working and everything, and it has a photo tray for 4x6 and 5x7's... how do i set up the picture i have to print on that... also i have the HP toolbox thing.... please help
[12:07] <nucco> Brian_: your choice. try them both and choose
[12:07] <joseph> Anybody know where I can get good information on how to get a linksys wpc54G card working with WPA
[12:07] <ae88925> Brian: Try them both
[12:07] <stinger05> u mean in ubuntu ?
[12:07] <stinger05> yes it is
[12:07] <stinger05> PPPOE
[12:07] <acglaphotis> dremth: ok
[12:07] <stinger05> is the connection
[12:08] <Brian_> well i did
[12:08] <riotkittie> uh. if youre backing up / in its entirity, why even bother with a reinstall?
[12:08] <Brian_> i cant choose
[12:08] <nucco> Brian_: toss a coin
[12:08] <dremth> riotkittie, thats just what he told me to do :P
[12:09] <stinger05> nucco: yes it is PPPOE connection
[12:09] <acglaphotis> dremth: first, boot the disk, press enter twice or so, and then get to the  menu, press down until you get to advanced, then press GRUB, then RESTORE GRUB IN HARD DISK
[12:09] <ae88925> Brian: My experience is: KDE is more configurable, but also more resource intensive (especially if you turn on many bells/whistles)
[12:09] <stinger05> nucco: but the problem is that i cant connect using my username and password lol
[12:10] <dremth> acglaphotis, that's all?
[12:10] <nucco> stinger05: maybe someone here with a PPPOE connection can help you out
[12:10] <ae88925> GNOME: Is a little more stable, but less featureful.
[12:10] <acglaphotis> dremth: yes
[12:10] <erUSUL> !adsl | stinger05
[12:10] <ubotu> stinger05: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection?   I like the look better.
[12:10] <acglaphotis> dremth: im going to eat, hope it helps
[12:11] <mrpyrover666> joseph u lookin for a linksys card?
[12:11] <nucco> stinger05: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[12:11] <PCHQ-SERVER> hey people
[12:11] <ae88925> Brian:  If you install one (Ubuntu or Kubuntu) you can still install the other after you install the main distro.
[12:11] <ae88925> Then you can switch between GNOME and KDE at will.
[12:12] <stinger05> nucco: so the only way to connect over PPPOE is using the command line ?
[12:12] <avalanche121> can you try again now? (ftp server) <IP_ADDRESS>; username=user; password={no password}
[12:12] <Brian_> but the kde i use is debian kde
[12:12] <nucco> stinger05: I wouldn't know that. I don't use PPPOE
[12:12] <iva1> i cant install deluge in ubuntu
[12:13] <stinger05> well its dsl right
[12:13] <stinger05> ?
[12:13] <PCHQ-SERVER> On my LAN, i can type http://<hostname> and it works fine... on my winxp box running apache, but not on my ubuntu server box... it only works for http://<ip address>  any ideas?
[12:13] <iva1> i have downloaded the tarball file
[12:13] <ae88925> You could install GNOME from debian repositories
[12:13] <Brian_> can u install debian kde and ubuntu like a dual boot?
[12:13] <fujin> PCHQ-SERVER: is the hostname in your /etc/hosts
[12:13] <fujin> ?
[12:13] <ae88925> Brian: Yes.
[12:13] <fujin> ipaddress<tab>hostname
[12:13] <PCHQ-SERVER> lemme check
[12:14] <dxdt> iva1: ktorrent is better, but usually there is a simple package file for deluge that can be downloaded and then double clicked to installed with gdebi installer
[12:14] <nucco> stinger05: mine plugs straight into my ethernet port, no fancy stuff attached.
[12:14] <Brian_> :-)
[12:14] <Brian_> but how
[12:14] <iva1> dxdt: i have tried but i get a message from it  error: libc6
[12:14] <iva1> i have installed libc6
[12:14] <emeriste> I've been using ubuntu for a few months now.. the problem is that it works so well that really I can't learn anything new anymore.
[12:14] <mrpyrover666> guys does any1 know a good wep/wpa injector software for ubuntu?
[12:15] <Dremth> THANKS so much! it worked. on ubuntu right now :)
[12:15] <bastid_raZor> anyone know of a Command line to burn an iso ?
[12:15] <Dremth> gtg again :) bye
[12:15] <ae88925> If you install GNOME, then you can select your session from the KDE logon screen
[12:15] <dxdt> iva1: hmm.  what about sudo dpkg -i thenameofthe.deb   ?  at the command line?  What error does that say?  Might give more info than gdebi?
[12:15] <erUSUL> bastid_raZor: dvd or cd?
[12:15] <Brian_> THANKS!!!!!
[12:15] <PCHQ-SERVER> etc/hosts has 2 lines, 1: <IP_ADDRESS>  localhost, 2: <IP_ADDRESS>  <hostname>
[12:15] <bastid_raZor> erUSUL: cd
[12:16] <Brian_> ill try it right now on virtualbox
[12:16] <Brian_> g2g
[12:16] <nucco> PCHQ-SERVER: you type only http://   ?
[12:16] <zachary> booted from livecd to try to install, and i am presented with login screen after boot
[12:16] <zachary> what do i put for username/password
[12:16] <PThomas> Hi, I'm using GParted via LiveCD and I get the error when 'Resize /dev/sda1 from 110.35GiB to 29.30GiB
[12:16] <specialKevin> I was wondering if anybody knew how I could backport php5.2 from feisty to dapper
[12:17] <PCHQ-SERVER> http://hostname is what im going for
[12:17] <specialKevin> currently dapper only has php5.1
[12:17] <bastid_raZor> zachary: your username and password
[12:17] <dxdt> iva1: You also need the boot libraries   (packages with names like libboost--blah) installed.  I think libboost-filesystem-something in synaptic
[12:17] <PCHQ-SERVER> it works perfect on my winxp apache server
[12:17] <zachary> yeah thanks...no i just started the livecd for the first time
[12:17] <PThomas> Check filesystem on /dev/sda1 for errors and (if possible) fix them
[12:17] <zachary> i am _installing_ livecd
[12:17] <PThomas> How do I fix them?
[12:17] <Sukoshi> Hi, a quick question. What are the paths to the utilities that you normally use through the Gnome/XFCE control-panels/menus ?
[12:17] <bastid_raZor> zachary: i've never hard of the livecd asking for user/pass
[12:17] <erUSUL> bastid_raZor:  wodim -v speed=n dev=/dev/whatever driveropts=burnfree cdimage.iso
[12:17] <bastid_raZor> erUSUL: thanks
[12:17] <iva1> dxdt: i am getting error from python
[12:18] <Sukoshi> I'm using Fluxbox, and while I could wrestle with the relevant ifconfig/iwconfig/route etc., I like the quick config utilities because they're well, quick :)
[12:18] <dxdt> iva1: ahh, excellent.  More info?  What does the error say?  What does googling the error give?
[12:18] <Sukoshi> And I want to add them to my Fluxbox menus.
[12:18] <zachary> anyone know why i might get a usename password prompt on my first time trying to install Ubuntu from the live cd?
[12:18] <iva1> dxdt: can't find python-suport and python-notify
[12:18] <PThomas> How do I check the filesystem for errors?
[12:18] <erUSUL> !fsck
[12:18] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[12:18] <Azzkikr> fsck
[12:18] <usr13> PThomas, fsck
[12:19] <usr13> PThomas, But do it on unmounted file system only.
[12:19] <riotkittie> zachary: try ubuntu/ubuntu ... altho you should not need eitehr, afaik
[12:19] <riotkittie> brb
[12:19] <PThomas> usr13: Can I run that through livecd or do I have to be running on the main partition?
[12:19] <usr13> PThomas, yes
[12:19] <PCHQ-SERVER> fujin: is that correct?
[12:19] <dxdt> iva1: PM me the exact error if you could.
[12:19] <arrow> I made internet radio mp3s open with music box on firefox, how do I change this to totem movie player?
[12:20] <PThomas> usr13: it returns fsck 1.40-WIP (14-Nov-2006)
[12:20] <zachary> riotkittie: yeah i know, it should have just dumped me into a working system.  ubuntu/ubuntu did not work
[12:20] <Azzkikr> fsck 1.40 WIP is common
[12:20] <ae88925> zachary: Which liveCD are you using? Version...
[12:20] <PThomas> Azzkikr: Which means?
[12:20] <emeriste> One of the main reasons I switched to Linux was for the intellectual challenge. But Ubuntu works so well, and so easily, that now I have gone months with no problems and no needs. And with no problems or needs then you can't learn anything.
[12:20] <Azzkikr> PThomas: it's ok :D
[12:21] <PThomas> Azzkikr: So why do I get an error with resizing /dev/sda1?
[12:21] <sacamano> hi, i tried to install a package from a tar and it gives me this error
[12:21] <Azzkikr> that, i don't know
[12:21] <sacamano> make
[12:21] <sacamano> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[12:21] <PThomas> Well wait, it says /dev/sda1 is mounted.
[12:21] <PThomas> Should it be mounted on livecd?
[12:21] <sacamano> it said ./configure and then sudo make
[12:21] <zachary> ae88925:Ubuntu 7.04 amd64
[12:21] <ae88925> sacamano: did configure run OK?
[12:22] <sacamano> ae88925 i think so
[12:22] <PCHQ-SERVER> fujin: ?
[12:22] <sacamano> i dont know, it ran a buncha stuff and i didnt really check
[12:22] <ae88925> sacamano: something must have failed in the configure, because configure creates the make file
[12:22] <ae88925> and the make file is missing
[12:22] <sacamano> any ideas what to do? its r-base
[12:23] <ae88925> zachary: What OS, if any, is on the HDD?
[12:23] <Heatryn> hello, i have a ipw2200 wireless card en i want to use wpa encryption in combination with a static ip
[12:23] <Heatryn> is it possible?
[12:24] <arrow> I made internet radio mp3s open with music box on firefox, how do I change this to totem movie player?
[12:24] <iva1> dxdt: python-notifier is not i dapper only feasty
[12:24] <dxdt> Heatryn: yes.  ipw2200 + ubuntu work pretty well
[12:24] <zachary> SATA1 is a brand new HDD.  SATA2 is a storage HDD with no OS on it, and SATA3 has Gentoo
[12:24] <iva1> dxdt: i need that package to build
[12:24] <gaurish> where does wget save its download by default??
[12:24] <Zhiva> Hello all, I have a little question i hope someone might know the answer to. I'm installing ruby, with rubygems. I first tried with .deb-files, but found out i needed to compile it myself. The problems is, after doing the compiles and make installs, it still looks for the old bins (which were located in /usr/bin, as opposed to /usr/local/bin). Any idea how to "rehash" the path?
[12:24] <zachary> ae88925:i'm trying a boot with only the blank HDD connected
[12:24] <dxdt> iva1: oh yikes.  Yeah that maybe why you are having problems and such.  Dapper is a bit old, unfortunately.  This all makes more sense now.
[12:24] <dxdt> gaurish: in the directory that you executed wget from
[12:25] <iva1> if i want to uppgrade from dapper to feasy
[12:25] <iva1> do i have to reinstall everything or is it possible to upgrade
[12:25] <nucco> iva1: you can upgrade
[12:26] <iva1> any howto? =)
[12:26] <gaurish> dxdt, i started donwloading debian dvd now my home distecory is getting filled can i move it to another directory?
[12:26] <nucco> iva1: this should work: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/upgrade-ubuntu-edgy-to-feisty/
[12:26] <dxdt> gaurish: not that I know of without restarting it.  Why the DVD?  Why not something smaller like the netinstall cd if I may ask?
[12:27] <foug> will 7.10 use the newly released kernel? 2.6.23?
[12:27] <dxdt> nucco: are you sure?  I thought dapper to Feisty was not possible and that guide is Edgy to Feisty
[12:27] <nucco> dxdt: not sure. I figured replacing references to edgy with dapper would solve the issue.
[12:28] <gaurish> dxdt, actually i want to know how to shift my partial downloads to other directly, so used debian as a example
[12:28] <disinterested> when my pc starts useing swap everything gets jumpy,  in gkrellm memory says i have 377m in swap it says i have 1098m, i guess what im asking is if i switched the memory sticks around if that would change the memory swap values?
[12:28] <Heatryn> does the new beta has wpa+static ip automatic?
[12:28] <dxdt> gaurish: I don't know how, someone might though...
[12:29] <Puppy_> Hey, I'm having some hardware trouble.  Any ideas?
[12:29] <dxdt> Heatryn: current versions support wpa+static I"m pretty sure.  I know they support dhcp+ipw220+wpa so they MUST also support static
[12:29] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: When compiling, set your prefix.
[12:29] <Heatryn> dxdt: sure?
[12:29] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g | Puppy_
[12:29] <ubotu> Puppy_: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:29] <dxdt> Heatryn: not 100%, but I am 100% sure abut ipw220+wpa+Feisty+dhcp because that is what I use all the time on my laptop and it was zero config(other than typing in the wpa key)
[12:29] <Puppy_> Jordan_U: Already have it. Worked fine until about twenty minutes ago.
[12:29] <Jordan_U> Puppy_, And can you please define "acting like a six-year-old off Ritalin." :)
[12:30] <Zhiva> Sukoshi: I don't want the compile to go to /usr/bin, I want it in local. But it seems the system still thinks the old binaries are there.
[12:30] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: Well ... I guess other packages depend on it being there ....
[12:30] <Zhiva> nope, removed all dependencies
[12:30] <Zhiva> it's a fresh install, so got good control
[12:30] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: I don't use Ruby much, but maybe there's an environmental variable here?
[12:30] <dxdt> iva1: I don't think that you can upgrade from Dapper to Feisty, or if you can, it is not recommended.  You may have to go to Edgy first then Feisty.  O
[12:30] <Zhiva> even whereis says the files are there, but in reality they are not
[12:30] <millhouse> i'm having some issues w/twinview and my nvidia card and dual monitors
[12:30] <Puppy_> Jordan_U: It's loading much slower than usual. And Nautlus is really spotty. Also the desktop icons keep disapearing.
[12:31] <Zhiva> Sukoshi: it's not a ruby thing, I've experienced it before on other things
[12:31] <Azhi_Dahaka> hi
[12:31] <Zhiva> it's like apt-get remove doesn't remove the "memory"
[12:31] <Azhi_Dahaka> is kubuntu 7.10 coming with KDE 4?
[12:31] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: I meant as in, I'm not certain what env vars Ruby wants.
[12:31] <dxdt> Azhi_Dahaka: negative.
[12:31] <dxdt> it made me sad
[12:31] <Jordan_U> Puppy_, I would do an fsck, "sudo touch /forcefsck" then reboot and it should run one on the next boot
[12:31] <Azhi_Dahaka> kthxbai
[12:31] <millhouse> whenever i login, gnome by default puts the pannels where it wants it, even if i moved it in a previous login...  is there anyway that i can make changes stay?
[12:32] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: A cursory look over http://phrogz.net/ProgrammingRuby/rubyworld.html talks about 3 env vars (LOADPATH, RUBYPATH, and the typical PATH).
[12:32] <dxdt> Puppy_: yeah I agree with Jordan_U, weird stuffs like that happens when hard drive is having problems.  I had issues like that right before a hd died on me :-/
[12:32] <Zhiva> Sukoshi: the ruby compile and all is fine, the problem seems to be in the path. the system still thinks that /usr/bin/ruby is there, even tho I did an apt-get remove ruby*
[12:32] <superman> ive deleted my msn contacts but gaim has lil boxes that pop up  saying do you want . .. .  to added to list how do i stop/get rid of this?
[12:32] <pike_> millhouse: hmm maybe a 'sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~'  just to be sure
[12:32] <Zhiva> Sukoshi: as mentioned, I've had this trouble with trivial things like irssi earlier
[12:32] <Puppy_> Jordan_U: Does it matter that I'm getting fsck messages upon startup. Not sure what they said. Sorry.
[12:32] <dxdt> superman: #pidgin  --the gaim room will probably be most help
[12:33] <Zhiva> seems to happen when I go from deb through apt-get remove to compile
[12:33] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: Check those env vars.
[12:33] <Jordan_U> Puppy_, Yes it does, I would back up anything important, then check what the errors are
[12:33] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: Are you familiar with env vars? (I'm just asking to be pedantic here.)
[12:33] <millhouse> k
[12:33] <Zhiva> Sukoshi: yes, I am :)
[12:33] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: Thought so.
[12:33] <Zhiva> I've allready checked them before I came in here.
[12:34] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: Hmph.
[12:34] <Puppy_> Jordan_U:OK, will do. How could this be connected to the windows drive saying "Can not access drive" or something like that?
[12:34] <Zhiva> i just found something
[12:34] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: A hackish solution is to create an alias to the ruby interpreter, and that may or may not work ....
[12:34] <Jordan_U> Puppy_, So windows and Ubuntu are on different drives, or just different partitions?
[12:34] <Zhiva> apt-get remove didn't remove the symlinks it created
[12:35] <dxdt> Zhiva: you need the purge option probably  remove --purge or something like that.
[12:35] <Puppy_> Jordan_U: Completly different drives. Weird, huh?
[12:35] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: Or use aptitude, which works out removing things much better.
[12:35] <Zhiva> dxdt: yeah. might be, thought purge just removed the physical packages
[12:35] <dxdt> Puppy_: could be that your ubuntu drive is messing up so It doesn't know how to talk to the windows drive.  Like its programs and such are being corrupted.
[12:35] <Zhiva> Sukoshi: yeah, but I seldom have ncurses in
[12:35] <Zhiva> afk for a cigarette
[12:36] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: Does aptitude depend on curses?
[12:36] <dxdt> Zhiva: well it does that and typically removes some config files and such.  I was hoping it would kill the other things as well.
[12:36] <nny> sg nickserv identify servitude
[12:36] <Jordan_U> Sukoshi, Zhiva Both just use dpkg, the --purge simply removes config files
[12:36] <nny> hahah crap
[12:36] <inode2> Anybody got a suggestion for where to look for a job I can help furthers desktop Linux? Pay and location are fairly open (will relocate anywhere). I'm very technical & have software development(10), system admin(9?), & desktop Linux support(2yrs) skills/exp. BS in CS, over 10 yrs using OS, 7 as primary/only desktop OS. Also interned at a top Linux distribution com.
[12:36] <nny> anyone want my nick?
[12:36] <Sukoshi> Zhiva: I've used it as a drop-in replacement for apt-get and it's worked fine for me.
[12:36] <Puppy_> dxdf: How would that work? I'm accessing Windows through a grub.... Is Ubuntu even involved in that?
[12:37] <pike_> inode2: /join #ubuntu-offtopic  there are quite a few of us in there
[12:37] <dxdt> Puppy_: oh, I thought you were messing with it from inside ubuntu, my bad
[12:37] <zachary> ok now with a blank hard drive and no other hard drives installed, the live cd gives me a username and password prompt.
[12:37] <Puppy_> dxdf: No prob. Thanks.
[12:37] <Jordan_U> zachary, At a console or at the GDM?
[12:37] <inode2> pike_ thanks
[12:38] <zachary> jordan_U: GDM
[12:38] <Jordan_U> zachary, Try username "ubuntu" with a blank password
[12:38] <Jordan_U> zachary, But obviously it should log in automatically
[12:38] <zachary> jordan_U: no success...yea i know...i dont get it
[12:39] <zachary> this is with 7.4 amd64 on a dualcore amd64 machine...
[12:39] <DonL> zachary, have you tried just hitting enter? Sorry if someone's already asked that
[12:39] <zachary> DonL: blank username doesnt work
[12:39] <DonL> OK
[12:40] <Manignug> can anyone help me connect a smb server on the dmz to an ip on the lan side in the router?
[12:40] <Jordan_U> zachary, Do you get a login prompt at the tty's also?
[12:40] <atlfalcons866>  #ubuntu+1
[12:42] <zachary> jordan_U: I hopped over to TTY1, and i see at the top: "Loading, please wait...\n [User not known to the underlying authentication module\n] ^10 Kernel alive \n kernel direct mapping tables up to 100000000 @ 8000-d000
[12:42] <rsferreira> My notebook only boots Gusty on battery. On ac power it crashes some seconds after gdm is loaded, unless I set acpi=off in the kernel line. Has anyone seen something like this?
[12:43] <Jordan_U> zachary, Do you get any type of shell prompt? Have you done the CD integrity test?
[12:43] <zachary> no shell prompt, no
[12:43] <Jordan_U> rsferreira, #ubuntu+1 for Gutsy
[12:44] <enzovin> ciao
[12:44] <rsferreira> Jordan_U: I've tried there, no one has any idea on this... :(
[12:44] <enzovin> !list
[12:44] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:44] <veynom> how can i tell/view a list of currently installed fonts are on linux?
[12:45] <Jordan_U> rsferreira, Have you filed a bug? You can't really expect full support for a Beta OS :S
[12:46] <atlfalcons866> how can i change my ext3 to ext4?
[12:46] <veynom> add one?
[12:46] <juano__> hello room!, when will 7.10 gutsy gibbon be out __
[12:46] <pike_> atlfalcons866: mkfs? :)
[12:46] <Pelo> atlfalcons866,  as far as I know , ext4 is not available for fiesty atm
[12:47] <Pelo> veynom, anyone what ?
[12:47] <Pelo> juano__,  oct 18 2007
[12:47] <atlfalcons866> ext3 is slow
[12:47] <rsferreira> Jordan_U: yes, the bug is filled. I've been running Feisty with no problems, I just wanted to know if it's affecting other people.
[12:47] <veynom> mine was a joke
[12:47] <juano__> Pelo: cool, in a week... thanks!
[12:48] <Pelo> atlfalcons866, I'm always amazed by ppl who can see the difference a few milliseconds can make
[12:48] <kst> are there any benefits from using evdev with my logitech mx510? right now i'm using Driver "mouse" and Protocol "auto".. I would like to overclock my usb mouse to 500hz aswell =)
[12:48] <usr13> Manignug
[12:48] <usr13> !smb
[12:48] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:48] <Jordan_U> atlfalcons866, ext4 won't be any faster
[12:48] <atlfalcons866> no i dont see the difference i just saw in benchmarks
[12:49] <atlfalcons866> i used jfs xfs and i dont see a speed difference
[12:49] <Jordan_U> atlfalcons866, They are both faster in general than ext3 or 4
[12:49] <Puppy_> quick question... sudo shutdown -r now    what does this do?
[12:49] <atlfalcons866> jordan_u: ext4 will have new features like extents and allocate on flush
[12:49] <Jordan_U> Puppy_, reboots
[12:49] <Puppy_> Jordan_U ! this would not be my problem right?
[12:50] <kst> !evdev
[12:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about evdev - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:50] <sashimi_> onde
[12:50] <sashimi_> hi every body
[12:50] <bieb> how can I get the icon in the task bar to be able to lock my screen when I am away from my desk??
[12:50] <Chamunks> is there an open source cross platform screen capture program ? im mainly needing this for windoze
[12:50] <rickson> Hi, I'm trying to upgrade from feisty to gutsy
[12:50] <ScarEye> Hey guys, I am about to setup a server with ubuntu 7.04, I see that 7.10 is going to be out in about 8 days.  Should I just wait for the latest and greatest ?
[12:50] <rickson> using a cdrom
[12:50] <Jordan_U> Puppy_, What are you trying to do?
[12:50] <Trunkz> Right.. err I dont think I'm in the right place, but.. is it possible to connect to xbox live via a socks proxy? (Sorry for the wrong channel)
[12:50] <ScarEye> Just use as a vpn router
[12:50] <ScarEye> that's it
[12:50] <Pelo> bieb,   right click the pannel ,  add to menu , check in the list provided
[12:51] <Trunkz> use a VPN router?
[12:51] <Puppy_> Jordan_U: than was the only weird thing I did before these problems happened. And you are saying that that would only restart the computer?
[12:51] <mmInd> Anyone know how I could save my keyboard shortcuts, and then restore them via a script?
[12:51] <rickson> does anyone know why the cdrom upgrade is hanging?
[12:51] <Jordan_U> Scarey, Depending on what you need it for it might be better to use LTS Dapper
[12:51] <Pelo> rickson,  ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:51] <Puppy_> Jordan_U (I don't use commandline much)
[12:51] <ScarEye> Yep it's only goning to be a VPN router.  It will have Ubuntu and OpenSWAN that's it.  Nothing more.
[12:51] <rickson> thanx
[12:51] <Jordan_U> Puppy_, Yes, that is all it does
[12:52] <Puppy_> Thanks!
[12:52] <Pelo> Trunkz, you're in the right channel but it's possilbe that the current crowd doesn't know the answer
[12:52] <bieb> Pelo, thanks
[12:52] <ScarEye> I heard they improved the kernel so that it consumes lets power.  Which means less heat..
[12:52] <Trunkz> okey lol
[12:52] <Jabapyth> im trying to connect to a webdav server, but the only options (in the nautilus 'connect to a server' dialog) are SSH and Custom Location. how do i connect to webdav?
[12:52] <Trunkz> Pelo: Its a pretty awkward situation.. Trying to basically connect to Xbox Live behind my uni firewall
[12:53] <Pelo> Trunkz, donT' tell me , I'm part of the crowd that doesn't know
[12:53] <Trunkz> I know =
[12:53] <Trunkz> =/*
[12:53] <jahshua> hello. just wondering if anyone can help me out please, my mothers computer is a couple years old and it doesnt have a wireless card in it, she is running ubuntu on it and i am wondering if someone could help me to setup a usb wireless adapter so she can pick up the wireless network here..
[12:53] <Pelo> Trunkz, you can also try searching in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org
[12:53] <Trunkz> Pelo: it wont be on there lol xD
[12:54] <Trunkz> This is a pretty.. sketchy subject
[12:54] <Trunkz> I dont think Ubuntu has got anything to do with this xD
[12:54] <usr13> Trunkz, I think you'd need to implement a port forwarding rule in the router.
[12:54] <Trunkz> Was wondering if there was a network or xbox 360 channel on freenode
[12:54] <Pelo> jahshua, I suggest  you look for the usb wifi adaptor model in the forum and in the hardware list    www.ubuntuforums.org   and  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:54] <Tigey> I am new to linux, but not so new to Sun/Unix.  Trying to install flash on Ubuntu 64-bit.  Flash seems to be only in the x86 variety..  Anyone know what I can do alternatively?
[12:54] <Trunkz> usr13: I'm in university, that wont do anything me thinks
[12:54] <PCHQ-SERVER> i know i already asked, but here i go again... i am running apache on winxp for my LAN only, when i want to go to it, i open the browser and type http://hostname and it works fine, i am trying to do the same thing on my ubuntu server box, but it doesnt work
[12:54] <Pelo> Trunkz,  you'dd be surprised at the stuff ppl put in the user forum, check it out
[12:54] <Ahadiel> Trunkz, try /list
[12:55] <pike_> Tigey: /msg ubotu chroot   only solution i know
[12:55] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, Add unique hosthame to /etc/hosts
[12:55] <Pelo> PCHQ-SERVER,  might need samba but i'm not good with this stuff, also try asking in #networking
[12:55] <adaniels> hi, I've got a simple question...
[12:55] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, Add unique hosthame & IP to /etc/hosts
[12:55] <S_R_G> upgrading to 7.10
[12:55] <Pelo> adaniels,  there is no such thing
[12:56] <S_R_G> how hard will that be
[12:56] <ScarEye> From the command line is there a way to see what packages are installed ?
[12:56] <Pelo> S_R_G, ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:56] <PCHQ-SERVER> its a dynamic ip though...
[12:56] <Seeker`> adaniels: you dont need to ask to ask a question, just ask it
[12:56] <S_R_G> no
[12:56] <S_R_G> in final release
[12:56] <S_R_G> how hard will it be
[12:56] <adaniels> when I upgraded to 7.04, a package was installed to give me fancy desktop effects
[12:56] <ndube> compiz?
[12:56] <S_R_G> i am in ubuntu studio
[12:57] <adaniels> i uninstalled that, but now i want it back: what is is called?
[12:57] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, Then set up an aliaus and have apache listen for a certain IP, (of the alias)
[12:57] <S_R_G> is it possible to upgrade
[12:57] <PCHQ-SERVER> usr13: the default was <IP_ADDRESS>   localhost and <IP_ADDRESS>   hostname
[12:57] <ndube> adaniels, compiz
[12:57] <usr13> alias not aliaus
[12:57] <Trunkz> okey, well forums got nothign
[12:57] <Pelo> S_R_G,   well,  the update manager will blink in the top pannel and when you click on it the update manager dialog windows will come up and tell you there is a new release available do you want to upgrade ,  click OK ,
[12:57] <adaniels> ndube: k thnx
[12:57] <Trunkz> nothing*
[12:57] <PCHQ-SERVER> usr13: i tried the alias entry and got nothing
[12:57] <ndube> Trunkz, what is your question
[12:57] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, Yes that is correct, that is generic hostname.
[12:57] <S_R_G> is ubuntu studio 7.04?
[12:57] <pierre__> hi someone know the of file where can put ifdown ath0 , ifup ath0 please
[12:57] <ndube> S_R_G, i think so
[12:58] <S_R_G> shouldn't ubuntu studio be with the same updtes
[12:58] <S_R_G> ?
[12:58] <Trunkz> ndube: Can I connect to xbox live via a SOCKS proxy
[12:58] <Trunkz> :P
[12:58] <pierre__> hi someone know the name of file where can put ifdown ath0 , ifup ath0 please
[12:58] <Jordan_U> S_R_G, Ubuntu-Studio is mostly Ubuntu with some applications and themes, it is not a different distribution
[12:58] <S_R_G> ok
[12:58] <S_R_G> just making sure
[12:58] <bruenig> pierre__, where you can put it? you can put it any file you please, except a binary file I presume
[12:58] <PCHQ-SERVER> i also tried winbind and added wins to my nsswitch.conf and got nothing
[12:58] <S_R_G> also, is there a network monitor tool like wireshark to monitor users web usage?
[12:59] <ndube> Trunkz, I think so...i've never tried it though...
[12:59] <adaniels> ah it was reinstalled with 7.10, thnx
[12:59] <S_R_G> and see usernames (windows 2003 domain)?
[12:59] <bruenig> !info wireshark
[12:59] <ubotu> wireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4-6 (feisty), package size 566 kB, installed size 1576 kB
[12:59] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, sudo ifconfig eth0:0 <IP_ADDRESS> ; cat >> /etc/host ; my-server.com  <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:59] <usr13> Something like that ^^^
[12:59] <bruenig> wireshark is pretty similar to wireshark, a bit of a learning curve
[12:59] <Pelo> S_R_G,  there is wireshark, it's in the repos
[12:59] <S_R_G> ye
[12:59] <S_R_G> but it does not work
[12:59] <outsider_>  I NEED HELP IM NEW IN UBUNTU I WANT TO USE IROFFER ???MSG ME
[12:59] <bruenig> it does
[12:59] <outsider_>  I NEED HELP IM NEW IN UBUNTU I WANT TO USE IROFFER ???MSG ME
[12:59] <S_R_G> it says there is no interface available
[12:59] <Trunkz> .. wtf
[12:59] <Trunkz> xD
[12:59] <bruenig> outsider_, stop that
[12:59] <adaniels> why does ubuntu come with compiz and not beryl? Is compiz just as good?
[12:59] <Jordan_U> !caps | outsider_
[12:59] <ubotu> outsider_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:00] <PCHQ-SERVER> usr13: that looks scary
[01:00] <Pelo> outofpaper, we can readlowercase thanks
[01:00] <outsider_> MY BAD
[01:00] <bruenig> S_R_G, perhaps your card or drivers do not support monitor mode
[01:00] <outsider_> zorry
[01:00] <ndube> adaniels, beryl is less stable
[01:00] <Pelo> outsider_,  and we don'T msg ppl, ask specific quesions in the channel
[01:00] <outsider_> zorry
[01:00] <ndube> adaniels, and I think it is no longer being developed, but i'm not sure
[01:00] <S_R_G> belkin, ovislink, and rhino
[01:00] <S_R_G> none work
[01:00] <pierre__> brueing :because my wireless card not resume to end hibernate and i write to console command and i want put the ligne to permanent file
[01:00] <pike_> adaniels: the two are now one.
[01:00] <S_R_G> yet in openuse, they work finbe
[01:00] <outsider_> im new in ubuntu and i wanna use iroffer ??
[01:00] <ndube> adaniels, besides, beryl is in compiz-fuzion
[01:01] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, but you would also need to edit /etc/apache/ httpd.conf and tell apache to listen on the desired IP address.
[01:01] <Pelo> outsider_,  what is iroffer , is it a linux app ?
[01:01] <adaniels> hmm firefox gives a black screen when i enable effect :(
[01:01] <Jordan_U> outsider_, It's in the repos, just install it with apt / synaptic
[01:01] <ndube> adaniels, compiz and compiz-fuzion are two seperate entities, the latter still being beta
[01:01] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, But, if you just use the IP address instead, nothing needs to be done.
[01:01] <bruenig> S_R_G, perhaps the drivers weren't compiled with monitor mode enabled, there is no distributed build script system like superior distros so it is hard to tell, compile the drivers yourself and make sure they have that mode enabled
[01:02] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, http://<IP_ADDRESS>/my-website/
[01:02] <kruckmartinc>  hi all, just done a fresh install of kubunt, however whenever i try and install something through cmdline it says it can't find the package, and although adept installer shows me all the packages, it won't let me install them - they are simply greyed out, anyone know whats wrong?
[01:02] <specialKevin> does anybody know where you can go to view the contents of actual .deb files, I want to see what flags are uses in creating the binary package of php for ubuntu
[01:02] <Pelo> outsider_,   sudo apt-get install iroffer
[01:02] <mray> i need help in mounting my NAS drive to my Ubuntu.
[01:02] <outsider_> iroffer is a xdcc server to serv mp3 files
[01:02] <adaniels> ndube: should i uninstall compiz-fusion?
[01:02] <Pelo> outsider_,   sudo apt-get install iroffer
[01:02] <ndube> kruckmartinc, what is the error?
[01:02] <bruenig> specialKevin, the deb is already binary so that is of no use, you would need the source and build script
[01:02] <PCHQ-SERVER> usr13: the whole point is to not have to use the ip address, since it is going to be dynamically assigned
[01:02] <ndube> adaniels, if it works for you...keep it
[01:02] <Merlintosh> Hi guys When I try ntfs3g  it says windows was not shut down correctly
[01:02] <Merlintosh> how can i fix that
[01:03] <kruckmartinc> eh..hold on..
[01:03] <ndube> adaniels, i personally keep crashing it
[01:03] <adaniels> ndube: it doesn't
[01:03] <ndube> adaniels, then remove it and install normal compiz
[01:03] <Pelo> Merlintosh, what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[01:03] <Jordan_U> specialKevin, apt-get source php
[01:03] <fblade1987> how can i save my wpa and wpa enterprise passwords in ubuntu?
[01:03] <Merlintosh> Hi guys When I try ntfs3g it says windows was not shut down correctly how can I fix that Ubuntu Server LTS
[01:03] <ndube> merlintosh, run a scandisk in windows
[01:03] <pierre__> brueing :sory for my bad english
[01:04] <bruenig> fblade1987, /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[01:04] <kruckmartinc> i got a different one now, thats odd..."
[01:04] <kruckmartinc> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:04] <kruckmartinc> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:04] <Merlintosh> cant I fix that from ubuntu
[01:04] <bruenig> kruckmartinc, close synaptic
[01:04] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, You can't just use the IP address of the machine that apache resides on?  (instead of a hosthame?
[01:04] <ndube> kruckmartinc, does it say that after a fresh reboot?
[01:04] <Pelo> Merlintosh, I believe later versions of ntfs-3g solved the problem but I don't know how you would go about installing them ,  maybe you can google for the source and compile it
[01:04] <kruckmartinc> lol, cheers
[01:04] <fblade1987> bruenig will that keep it so i don't always have to put my uni settings in when i use my laptop there?
[01:04] <Tigey> pike_: This sets up a virtual 32-bit environment to install in right?
[01:04] <ndube> fblade1987, yup
[01:04] <John117> Hey there.  I have an update in my ongoing struggle to instal Ubuntu on my laptop.  Can someone offer a suggestion to fix my trouble?
[01:04] <Merlintosh> thank you guys
[01:04] <fblade1987> because it does not seem to work
[01:04] <PCHQ-SERVER> usr13, the ip will change often and i dont want to keep track...
[01:05] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, Oh, that's right, it is dhcp.  Well, just change to static.
[01:05] <bruenig> fblade1987, yeah, well there is a special format on how it works, make sure you are doing it correctly
[01:05] <Pelo> John117, how far do you get ?
[01:05] <pike_> Tigey: yeah
[01:05] <Jordan_U> Merlintosh, Have you booted windows and / or run chkdisk ?
[01:05] <outsider_> already install iroffer ---- where the files goes ????
[01:05] <bruenig> fblade1987, man wpa_supplicant.conf
[01:05] <specialKevin> Jordan_U: would that just get me the source or would I actually be able to get the compile flags from that
[01:05] <kruckmartinc> very odd, i just closed the synaptic that had been giving me the grey, then installed vlc over cmd line, how very odd
[01:05] <PCHQ-SERVER> usr13: it works fine on my winxp install...
[01:05] <Merlintosh> Jordan_U:  no but i was hoping this can be solved from ubuntu
[01:06] <Tigey> pike_: There does not seem to be a way to set up a feisty 32-bit type.  Still looking though...  <sigh>
[01:06] <Pelo> outsider_,  if you cannot find iroffer in the menues ( under internet) ,  type iroffer in the terminal ,  the menu probably just didnT' update properly yet
[01:06] <usr13>  PCHQ-SERVER Just use static IP, (one that is outside the range of dhpcd's pool).
[01:06] <bruenig> kruckmartinc, yeah stay away from gui when it is possible and easy to do so such as package management, much smoother
[01:06] <kruckmartinc> hm, cheers anyway :)
[01:06] <kruckmartinc> quit
[01:06] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, What works fine on your winxp install?
[01:06] <Jordan_U> specialKevin, It would also the compile flags, at least I would assume so since with --compile it will compile it into a binary .deb for you
[01:06] <Jordan_U> *include
[01:06] <fblade1987> well this is my wpa_supplicant file
[01:06] <fblade1987> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/40215/
[01:07] <Tigey> pike_: NM misspelled feisty. Grrr.
[01:07] <Jordan_U> Merlintosh, It can't, it is a problem with the NTFS partition and Linux cannot fsck NTFS partitions
[01:08] <fblade1987> lol
[01:08] <krammer> how can i make the desktop move in 3d
[01:08] <Pelo> krammer,  compiz-fusion
[01:08] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, It's just a bad idea to run a server on dhcp.  But, If insist on doing that, you need to set up an alias and have the server listen on the alias IP.
[01:08] <voidus> krammer: enable desktop effects
[01:08] <ivan__> hi, im having a problem installing updating and opening synaptic, can someone help me please??
[01:08] <Pelo> krammer,  #compiz-fusion or #ubuntu-effects
[01:08] <fblade1987> is that right or have i done something wrong
[01:08] <Jordan_U> Merlintosh, With ntfs-fix ( poorly named ) you can set the partition as clean *without actually fixing it*, but that is a bad idea
[01:08] <mEck0> I have an mysql question: how can I make a query which fetches ssn where ssn is not in the form XXXXXX-XXXX? I'm confused on how to make the condition XXXXXX-XXXX. I can't just write X:es which stands for any number between 0-9
[01:09] <PCHQ-SERVER> usr13: its just a temporary cod2 server for a lan party
[01:09] <Pelo> ivan__,  did you mess with your /etc/apt/sources.list file ?
[01:09] <krammer> do i have to install it
[01:09] <PCHQ-SERVER> thanks for your help though
[01:09] <Merlintosh> thank you Jordan
[01:09] <Pelo> krammer,  there are a few basic effects included in feisty , you can ask abotu them in #ubuntu-effects
[01:09] <usr13> PCHQ-SERVER, Well, I've given you a couople of alternatives.  Take your pick.
[01:09] <Jordan_U> Merlintosh, np
[01:09] <Photocopy> !slax
[01:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about slax - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:09] <Photocopy> okay
[01:10] <Photocopy> Is anyone here familiar with slax? I have two questions.
[01:10] <ivan__> Pelo, mmm i did but usally i dont mess it up, and i think i did mess up with them, what can i do?
[01:10] <Jordan_U> Phoenigore, slax is a slackware based LiveCD, this is #ubuntu
[01:10] <krammer> thanks pelo
[01:10] <outsider_> thx pelo fucking cool men
[01:10] <Pelo> ivan__,  go to your /etc/apt folder and see if you ahve a backup
[01:10] <LjL> !language | outsider_
[01:10] <ubotu> outsider_: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:10] <Pelo> outsider_,   language please ,  we're linux users we'Re all virgins here
[01:11] <outsider_> ahhh ok zorry my bad
[01:11] <ivan__> Pelo, no
[01:11] <Jordan_U> Pelo, Speak for yourself :)
[01:11] <Kyokuz> is there a tool in desktop version to resize partions etc via gui?
[01:11] <Photocopy> IIf anyone knows aboout slax? its two fairly simple questions.  quick too.
[01:11] <Photocopy> =p
[01:11] <ivan__> Pelo, actually i do
[01:11] <Neodudeman> Lol
[01:11] <fblade1987> can anyone help at all?
[01:11] <hentaisushi> MasterShrek, i have to reinstall windows XP and ubuntu
[01:11] <usr13> Kyokuz, gpart
[01:11] <Neodudeman> ya, can you help me fblade?
[01:11] <voidus> Kyokuz: gparted/qtparted
[01:11] <usr13> !gpart
[01:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gpart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <Pelo> ivan__,  restore the backup and see if it works better, then try to figure out what you did wrong
[01:11] <Neodudeman> i have a partition problem
[01:12] <usr13> !qpart
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qpart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <LjL> Photocopy: i thought this was an ubuntu channel last time i checked
[01:12] <LjL> !gparted | usr13
[01:12] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, what is your problem
[01:12] <ubotu> usr13: GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[01:12] <Neodudeman> i partitioned about 15gb for my ubuntu install on a Windows XP laptop with 60gb
[01:12] <Kyokuz> voidus: how do i get it to run i can't see it in the menu's?
[01:12] <jahshua> does anyone know where i can get "windows wireless drivers" for ubuntu ...  .inf files ?
[01:12] <jahshua> please.
[01:12] <adaniels> ndube: I can't get it to work. This http://pastebin.com/d2fa780f7 was installed when I upgraded to 7.10.
[01:12] <Neodudeman> now, when I boot onto Windows, it says it only has 1gb free
[01:12] <Neodudeman> and that 13gb has been used
[01:13] <Neodudeman> out of 14gb
[01:13] <voidus> Kyokuz: it is on live cd. if you installed ubuntu, install gparted via synaptic
[01:13] <Pelo> jahshua,  go to the website of your device maker and look in the dl section
[01:13] <Photocopy> LjL: Last time I checked, the idea behind linux wasn't "My distros better than urs and i wont help you lololol"    Slax doesnt have its own irc ty, so dont harass me. Even if this is an ubuntu place, its an support channel, and surely support is most important.
[01:13] <usr13> LjL, Thanks.  Couldn't get the name right....
[01:13] <fblade1987> !wpa_supplicant
[01:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wpa_supplicant - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:13] <LjL> Photocopy: no, surely staying ontopic is more important.
[01:13] <LjL> !offtopic > Photocopy    (Photocopy, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:13] <LjL> !guidelines > Photocopy    (Photocopy, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:13] <Pelo> !wpa | fblade1987
[01:13] <ubotu> fblade1987: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:13] <usr13> Kyokuz, it's gpqrted   not gpart
[01:14] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, how much does it say your linux is taking up in disk management?
[01:14] <bruenig> Photocopy, if you are looking for general linux support, honestly I wouldn't pick this channel, I mean ##linux is there or I would personally pick #gentoo or something like that
[01:14] <Photocopy> LjL: The topic is generally, individual help, on a per person basis, not "ubuntu"
[01:14] <LjL> Photocopy: ... because YOU say so?
[01:14] <Neodudeman> where can i check disk management, hentaisushi
[01:14] <Photocopy> bruenig: I would, the rest are all deaddd.
[01:14] <Pelo> usr13,   qparted in kubuntu and gparted in ubuntu
[01:14] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, are you in windows now?
[01:14] <Photocopy> LjL: I say from experiences here past.
[01:14] <LjL> Photocopy: the channel topic says "Official Ubuntu Support Channel". so, come on, just drop it.
[01:14] <Neodudeman> yes
[01:14] <Jordan_U> Phoenigore, No, it's Ubuntu specifically always has been
[01:14] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, go to start->control panel
[01:14] <LjL> Photocopy: bad experiences then.
[01:14] <BUDD}{A> can someone recommend a good pc repair help  channel
[01:15] <Neodudeman> ok
[01:15] <Pelo> BUDD}{A, what do you need to fix ?
[01:15] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, then administrative tools
[01:15] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, then computer management if your in classic view
[01:15] <druke> When trying to install Ubuntu , I'm wanting to set /home/ to a completely separate 250 gig HD, but i get an error saying "cannot have end before the start"
[01:15] <hentaisushi> er nvm just computer management
[01:15] <BUDD}{A> well just like to hang around pick up the news and stuff
[01:16] <Neodudeman> Ok. in computer management, hentaisushi
[01:16] <Pelo> BUDD}{A,  #hardware maybe
[01:16] <Jordan_U> druke, What do you have the end set to and what do you have the start set to?
[01:16] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, along the left side there should be something labeled Disk Management
[01:16] <adaniels> ;( bye
[01:16] <BUDD}{A> thanks
[01:16] <usr13> druke, Check the start and end of the partition for a mistake.
[01:16] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, click that and your partition table should show up
[01:16] <ivan__> Pelo, it keeps giving me error messages and i cant edit the list
[01:16] <adaniels> :`( bye
[01:16] <Neodudeman> Ok, I clicked it.
[01:16] <Neodudeman> Oh look! I see the rest of my C drive!
[01:16] <usr13> druke, Hint:  Start number must be lower than end number
[01:16] <Photocopy> LjL: Or why don't you disregard messages not haviing to do with ubuntu if its what you so want to speak about. And they weree all good experiences, cause i got help every time. If you dont want to help me cause its not an ubuntu question then shutup and go help someone else, cause I don't see why someone wouldn't help me anyway. Besides, if I go to a store and ask if theyy have shovels and they don't, "Where can I get them" usual
[01:17] <druke> Jordan_U,  umm well begining it checked by default i just lef tit alone, /home willb ethe only partitio on the HD so I left all the sizes alone
[01:17] <Neodudeman> Here's the breakdown:
[01:17] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, is it correct based on what you entered?
[01:17] <Pelo> ivan__,  try  menu > system > admin > software sources  see if you can get that open, and they try and disable the 3rd party stuff
[01:17] <KaoZ> Anyone know why a LAN connection would not show up?
[01:17] <Neodudeman> It shows 3 partitions, Hentaisushi
[01:17] <usr13> KaoZ, Show up where?
[01:17] <fblade1987> argh i cant figure out how to do it, anyone
[01:17] <^Ocean^> what is the Compiz window Manager ?
[01:17] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, you had windows installed first, yes?
[01:17] <usr13> KaoZ,  Try     ifconfig
[01:17] <LjL> Photocopy: look, it's that simple: i'm an operator here, and i'm asking you to stick to Ubuntu support questions. and, i'm sorry, i don't know what if any channel you can find Slax support on.
[01:17] <Neodudeman> 2 unlabeled volumes, both heathy and unknown
[01:17] <Neodudeman> yes. windows was first, hentai
[01:17] <KaoZ> usr13: let me rephrase it
[01:17] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman,  those are the linux ones
[01:17] <Jordan_U> Photocopy, And we told you to check the ##linux ##slax or ##slackware 'stores'
[01:18] <Pelo> ^Ocean^,  do you mean the decorator or do you want to know hwat compiz is ?
[01:18] <KaoZ> Ubuntu is not detecting anything other than my modem
[01:18] <Neodudeman> ok. but they both are taking 42gb
[01:18] <^Ocean^> Pelo, the Decorator.
[01:18] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, so the one on the left should show how much total space your windows drive is currently
[01:18] <usr13> Phoenigore, Ask on ##slackware
[01:18] <KaoZ> And I should have both wireless and wired lan on my mobo
[01:18] <usr13> Photocopy,  Ask on ##slackware
[01:18] <Pelo> ^Ocean^,   emerald
[01:18] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi:yes. that's true
[01:18] <usr13> Sorry, wrong nic
[01:18] <Photocopy> LjL: I see no reason AT ALL why I shouldnot be helped, and Jordan_u, if you didn't highlight me then its your fault I didnt get the answer.
[01:18] <ivan__> Pelo, which one??
[01:18] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, what does it show? what is the capacity of the first drive?
[01:19] <mnk0> hey sup
[01:19] <Photocopy> usr13, my bets are onn ##slackware being dead. #xubuntu always is anyway.
[01:19] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, you said it started off as 60gb?
[01:19] <KaoZ> usr13, any ideas?
[01:19] <Pelo> ivan__,  which one what ?  3rd party repos,  uncheck all of them , see if you can get synaptic to work after that
[01:19] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: ya, about. Says here the total size is 55.89
[01:19] <mnk0> anyone familiar with how to Rip Audio CD --> mp3
[01:19] <LjL> Photocopy: join #ubuntu-ops if you want to discuss the issue further. meanwhile, you're muted for 10 minutes.
[01:19] <usr13> Photocopy, You would loose that bet.
[01:19] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: it seems like Linux and Windows are sharing one partition
[01:19] <mnk0> Neodudeman: impossible
[01:19] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: and the other two partitions are just sitting there
[01:20] <ndube> neodudeman, thats funny and impossible
[01:20] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, the unknown parts are the linux
[01:20] <Pelo> mneptok,  rip them to ogg first then comvert them   sound juicer then soundconverter
[01:20] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: are not!
[01:20] <mnk0> Pelo: u talkin to me?
[01:20] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: they both show that there's 100% free
[01:20] <Pelo> mnk0,  yes sorry
[01:20] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: and the C: partition shows 7% free
[01:20] <seanm1> need help with wireless - why doesn't my wireless card show up in Network applet?
[01:20] <^Ocean^> okay here it the problem, Compiz seems too start,   and i get window effects and stuff,   But no window Decorations ( The title bar , Min,Max, Close Buttons )
[01:20] <mnk0> Pelo: isnt there a way to encode directly to MP3
[01:20] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: and the C: is 14gb, as much as I allowed linux to have
[01:20] <mnk0> in sound juicer
[01:20] <druke> for my partition problem, ubuntu's installer doesn't make you choose a start and end number, the only number is the size of the partition, which is the entire HD
[01:21] <ndube> dude, windows does not support the other file systems, so they cannot determine use, hence the 100% free
[01:21] <mnk0> i try to add new codec to the list, but it dosnt show up for some reason
[01:21] <ndube> lol
[01:21] <Pelo> ^Ocean^,  ask in #ubuntu-effects or in #compiz-fusion
[01:21] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: i'll upload a screencap to imageshack
[01:21] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, thank you
[01:21] <geirha> Neodudeman: windows don't care about non-windows partitions, so it will just display that they're empty or full or whatever
[01:21] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, that too ^
[01:21] <Pelo> mnk0,  rip first , then convert
[01:21] <mnk0> yeah it reas them wrong
[01:21] <mnk0> pelo ok
[01:21] <mnk0> what do u use to conver?
[01:21] <Pelo> mnk0,   soundconverter
[01:22] <mnk0> ok
[01:22] <Outlander> hi, im using gutsy, how do i set my window manager? xfce4 is loading for some reason, i have compiz so want that to be default
[01:22] <Pelo> Outlander,  ask in #ubuntu+1
[01:22] <Outlander> ok thanks
[01:22] <BUDD}{A> ok how do i tile the windows in xchat
[01:22] <Outlander> what config file would store the preferred wm?
[01:22] <usr13> Outlander, join #ubuntu+1
[01:22] <Pelo> BUDD}{A,  right lcick  the channel button and  detach
[01:23] <razer> Hi. I need some help with Ubuntu partitions on setup.
[01:23] <Outlander> lol sorry :)
[01:23] <Outlander> new channel for support?
[01:23] <razer> I want to create a few partitions.
[01:23] <Pelo> razer, what do you need to know
[01:23] <razer> Do you have to go under manual?
[01:23] <Pelo> razer, yes
[01:24] <BUDD}{A> thankyou very much
[01:24] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: Ok. I've got the image here. i'll link it.
[01:24] <Pelo> razer,  if you feel unsure you can prepartiton using gparted in the admin menu on the desktop,   and use those afterwards in manual
[01:24] <razer> Ok, then I need to know about a good setup to make sure swap is set up right and what partition to make it.
[01:24] <razer> Oh
[01:24] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: img115.imageshack.us/img115/5197/mypartitionssb8.png
[01:24] <razer> Gparted is easier than the one in setup?
[01:25] <Pelo> razer, simplest    5-10 gig  ext3 for / ,  2xram for swap , embeded in an extended partiton,  the rest for your /home
[01:25] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: i apologize for the really bad photo editing. it had to be done in paint. this wwas a fresh install of windows
[01:25] <usr13> razer, swap can be anywhere you want it to be.  Could be the first partition if you like.  In fact, it's not a bad idea to have it as the first one.
[01:25] <Pelo> razer,  gparted is the same as in the setup
[01:25] <seanm1> anybody give me some help on wireless ?
[01:25] <razer> Is there a web page that shows a good setup?
[01:25] <Pelo> !wifi | seanm1
[01:25] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: i put in, on the left, a window of the properties of the C: drive
[01:25] <ubotu> seanm1: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:25] <usr13> seanm1, What is your question?
[01:26] <Pelo> razer, not realy but I can dcc you a pick of my gparted if you want
[01:26] <seanm1> thanks I will take a look
[01:26] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, i do believe you entered something wrong during partition creation
[01:26] <E-mu> Is there support for the new Audio CHipset Realtek ALC 888S?
[01:26] <E-mu> Not just 888 but 888S
[01:27] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: ok. what might it have been?
[01:27] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, have you tried booting into linux?
[01:27] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: ya. linux works fine
[01:27] <razer> I have 230GB fresh drive. I want a partition for just the ubuntu OS, a swap and then some more partitions by subject.
[01:27] <Pelo> razer,  but put the swap pa4tition at the end
[01:27] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, did you check teh space available?
[01:27] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: partition is correct and everything. tells me I have about 13gb free
[01:27] <razer> Swap should be last?
[01:27] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, have you looked at the gparted diagram of your table?
[01:27] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: gparted?
[01:28] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, its the linux partition manager
[01:28] <geirha> Neodudeman: I suggest you download the gparted livecd and resize the partitions using that
[01:28] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: ok. that sounds cool.
[01:28] <Pelo> razer,  preferably,  , use the basic setup of the pick I showed you,  make the big partiton in to an extended partition,    make several smaller partitons in that ,  I suggest you make one for /home and  mount the other ones in montpoints in /home , like /home/user/music
[01:28] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, try that, im in class atm so i  have to go some sql stuff
[01:29] <timUR> How do i install and Enable Accelaration of Ubuntu legacy Nvidia ???
[01:29] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: lol oh
[01:29] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: ok. thanks
[01:29] <timUR> do you have any idea at all??
[01:29] <hentaisushi> Neodudeman, np, remember to come back here if you have other questions
[01:29] <razer> How big do I need for just the ubuntu OS?
[01:29] <razer> I'm not sure I know how to make subpartitions.
[01:29] <Neodudeman> hentaisushi: kk, ty
[01:29] <Pelo> razer,  5-10 gig
[01:29] <razer> Use the same mount point?
[01:29] <timUR> razer, maybe uknow?
[01:29] <razer> for sub arititons?
[01:30] <timUR> razer?
[01:30] <razer> yes
[01:30] <razer> what?
[01:30] <hasan> merhaba,kubuntu ve ubuntu da office farklimi ?
[01:30] <Pelo> razer,  you'll figure it out easily enought,  just make the extended first and then right click on it
[01:30] <razer> I'm not in gparted though.
[01:30] <razer> I'm in the install
[01:30] <razer> for ubuntu
[01:30] <Pelo> razer,  mount points are the name / folders of the partiton in ubuntu,  you need a different one for each partitons
[01:31] <Pelo> razer, same thing
[01:31] <hasan> benimle Trkce konusacak kimse varmi?
[01:31] <^Ocean^> okay, compiz starts just fine, but there are no window Deccorations,   ( Border around my windows, titlebar,  Min/Max/Close Buttons )
[01:31] <timUR> Nie
[01:31] <Pelo> !tr ! hasan
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tr ! hasan - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <Pelo> !tu
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <Pelo> !tk
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:32] <Pelo> what do we have for a turkish channel ?
[01:32] <timUR> So -**** How do i enable acceleration of ubuntu legacy ??
[01:32] <timUR> Nvidia driver ?
[01:32] <Pelo> timUR, apparently no one knows
[01:32] <Pelo> timUR, check in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[01:32] <hasan> officte sorun var
[01:32] <ivan__> Pelo, now that i open automatix and i try to install something it says error MMap ran outa space
[01:33] <LjL> !automatix | ivan__
[01:33] <ubotu> ivan__: Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[01:33] <runemaste644> in the ban list i see that people like banning ChanServ
[01:33] <Pelo> ivan__,  we don'T support automatix here,  in fact we can'T stand it
[01:33] <Pelo> !factoids
[01:33] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:33] <ivan__> Pelo, not only in automatix
[01:33] <Jordan_U> !tr | pelo
[01:33] <ubotu> pelo: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[01:33] <Pelo> Jordan_U,  I tried that first
[01:33] <LjL> ivan__: perhaps automatix is what's causing it, though.
[01:33] <tanath> what's the best way to scan a page into a new text/word document? preferrably with formatting intact
[01:34] <Pelo> !tr | hasan
[01:34] <ubotu> hasan: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[01:34] <ivan__> Ljl, ok, ill try that, why do you hate automatix?
[01:34] <Pelo> ivan__,  buggy as hell
[01:34] <LjL> ivan__: see the creditable analysis above...
[01:34] <LjL> tanath: you're asking about optical character recognition?
[01:35] <tanath> LjL, pretty much
[01:35] <Jordan_U> tanath, There isn't any great OCR software for Linux, but tesseract is pretty good if you clean up the image first and straiten it
[01:35] <LjL> !ocr > tanath    (tanath, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:35] <ivan__> Pelo, how can i delete automatix now that i cant open synaptic??
[01:35] <Pelo> ivan__,  try sudo apt-get remove automatix
[01:35] <runemaste644> !ocr
[01:35] <ubotu> OCR software for Ubuntu includes Tesseract, Ocrad and GOcr. GNOME users can use 'gocr-gtk' as a front-end to GOcr, while KDE users have Kooka available as a front-end to Ocrad and GOcr.
[01:35] <LjL> tanath: as he said. not much wonderful OCR software around, especially stuff that is good at keeping formatting.
[01:36] <LjL> !msgthebot | runemaste644
[01:36] <ubotu> runemaste644: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:36] <monitoreo> gf
[01:36] <EliteChris> hello can some1 help me. I have a question... I want to install linux on my i386 box and i was wondering if i could have a boot selection when i boot between windows and linux
[01:37] <Pelo> EliteChris, it's part of the installation proceedure
[01:37] <Jordan_U> EliteChris, That is setup automatically by default
[01:37] <LjL> EliteChris: GRUB, Ubuntu's standard bootloader, provides a boto menu where you can select the operating system to boot.
[01:37] <ivan__> pelo, you speak spanish?
[01:37] <Pelo> ivan__,  not realy
[01:37] <razer> Should all these paritions I create be primary partitions, or should some be logical?
[01:37] <EliteChris> so i can just pop in the disc and install ubuntu.. and when im done it will ask windows or ubuntu?
[01:37] <Pelo> ivan__,  and yes I already know what my nick means
[01:38] <LjL> razer: logical ones are only needed if you need more than 4 partitions in total.
[01:38] <LjL> EliteChris: pretty much.
[01:38] <tanath> Jordan_U, it's a printed page, so hopefully it'll do well
[01:38] <Jordan_U> EliasAmaral, Provided that you don't format the entire drive, yes
[01:38] <Pelo> razer,  you can only have 4 logical partitons,    make all but / and swap logical
[01:38] <razer> I think I was going to make 6 partitions, 40GB each.
[01:38] <EliteChris> #ubuntu Thanks alot i was worried
[01:38] <Pelo> razer,  it's a bit of a waste of time
[01:38] <razer> I made then primary.
[01:38] <LjL> razer: then you'll need to make an extended partition and put logical partitions in there.
[01:38] <Pelo> razer,   / swap and /home is all you realy need
[01:39] <razer> It doesn't say extended anywhere.
[01:39] <EliteChris> I enjoy having ubuntu on my ps3... and i decided i want it on the pc
[01:39] <geirha> Pelo: 4 primary partitions, logical partitions you can have many more of
[01:39] <ivan__> Pelo, o cuz it would be easier for me, ok when i try to remove it it says MMap ran out of room,   Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_feisty_universe_binary-i386_Packages
[01:39] <Jordan_U> EliasAmaral, It's much faster on PC :)
[01:39] <Pelo> geirha, isn'T that what I said ?
[01:39] <LjL> razer: perhaps it's created automatically when you make a logical partition.
[01:39] <tanath> hmm, tesseract doesn't seem to show in the menu
[01:39] <razer> So I should do primary partitions until I run out?
[01:39] <LjL> razer: an extended partition is a container for logical partitions
[01:39] <geirha> Pelo: you mixed logical and primary
[01:39] <LjL> tanath: that's because it's a console program.
[01:39] <Pelo> ivan__,   open up your sources.list file and comment out that repos
[01:40] <Jordan_U> tanath, It's a terminal app, there are GUI apps that can use it as a back end though
[01:40] <tanath> LjL, yeah, i just noticed that
[01:40] <Pelo> geirha, my bad
[01:40] <razer> So I put logical partitions in primary partitions?
[01:40] <LjL> tanath: type "man tesseract" or "man tesseract-ocr" in a shell
[01:40] <Sonicadvance1> Yo, I need to pass through internet from one network port to another and someone else helped me do it before. anyone got a clue?
[01:40] <razer> Does it even matter which type I use?
[01:40] <ivan__> Pelo, i cant edit it
[01:40] <geirha> razer: you make one of the primary partitions the special type of partition called extended partition
[01:40] <LjL> tanath: if you want a GUI, i'm afraid you can't use tesseract, as i'm not aware of any tesseract front-ends
[01:40] <geirha> razer: on the extended partition you can make logical partitions
[01:40] <Pelo> razer,  type ? you mean file system ?  if you are only going to use linux   ext3 is prefered
[01:40] <razer> I just have a bunch of hdc1,2,3 like that so far.
[01:41] <tanath> LjL, it'd be nice... it's certainly an issue that should be addressed, but i can do without
[01:41] <Pelo> razer, that's the name of the partitons , not the file system or the type
[01:41] <Jordan_U> LjL, tanath There are some GUI front ends, can't remember the name of the one I tried ( eventually just used tesseract directly )
[01:41] <razer> yeah, the first one is / the rest don't have a type, but they are all ext3
[01:41] <LjL> Jordan_U: perhaps, but not in the repositories
[01:41] <Jordan_U> LjL, No, in the repos
[01:42] <Jordan_U> LjL, It could use Ocrad also, it wasn't tesseract specific
[01:42] <LjL> Jordan_U, well, "apt-cache search tesseract" only gives tesseract-ocr, and "apt-cache rdepends tesseract-ocr" doesn't give anything, so i wouldn't know where to look
[01:42] <Pelo> razer, I think those would be the mountpoints for some reason, don'T knwo what it's called type tho
[01:42] <solidunit> can someone please help me out? i'm trying to setup my broadcom card with ndiswrapper following a howto off the ubuntu site. my card refuses to associate with my access point with iwconfig
[01:42] <razer> mountpoints
[01:43] <Jordan_U> LjL, Yeah, it didn't depend on it, just offered to use it if it was there
[01:43] <LjL> Jordan_U: uhm, then it should at least recommend or suggest it...
[01:43] <razer> Should swap be primary or logical?
[01:44] <nickrud> ivan__: to fix that, in a terminal:  sudo nano /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/mmap  ; that will create a file there. put the line    APT::Cache-Limit "10000000";   in it, and save.
[01:44] <Pelo> razer,  unlike windows,  when you add a partitons in or a storage device in linux it gets mounted,  , it needs a mount point, which is like a folder,  in name anyway,   it looks just like anyother folder in the filesystem tree,    mount one partiton as /home ,  and mount all your other as /home/usernamehere/whatever
[01:45] <EliteChris> hrm
[01:45] <tanath> Jordan_U, arg. tesseract only recognizes tiff :-/
[01:46] <tanath> Jordan_U, nobody uses tiff
[01:46] <Pelo> razer,  I realy recommend you just make 3 partitons if this is your first time with linux  , trust me on this , making a butload won,t realy do much for you , it's not like windows ,  a seperate /home is all you realy need to have safe data if you reinstall
[01:46] <^Ocean^> in #Compiz-fusion
[01:46] <pike_> alot of people use tiff
[01:46] <razer> Pelo, ok 3
[01:46] <tanath> bah
[01:46] <razer> I have one partition right now, just /
[01:46] <Jordan_U> tanath, It's basically an old IBM library that they just recently released, it's a great algorithm without many features yet
[01:46] <george2002> hola
[01:47] <ivan__> Pelo, it still says it ran out fo room
[01:47] <tanath> pike_, a lare number doesn't necessarily make a large percentage :P
[01:47] <Pelo> ivan__,  sudo apt-get update
[01:47] <razer> Pelo: So I what do I create next? Logical, I never see if it says extended.
[01:47] <Pelo> razer,   2xram for your swap and the rest for /home
[01:47] <tanath> Jordan_U, yeah, the algorithm may be great, but the app needs a lot of work :P
[01:47] <razer> And swap should be last right?
[01:48] <flukes1> doesnt matter
[01:48] <Pelo> razer,  with only 3 you just need to make them all primaries , and extended wouldn't have been the type it would be in the format list
[01:48] <razer> And only one primary parttition right?
[01:48] <razer> oh
[01:48] <ivan__> Pelo, at the end of the update it says thta
[01:48] <Sonicadvance1> Yo, I need to pass through internet from one network port to another and someone else helped me do it before. anyone got a clue?
[01:48] <ivan__> Pelo, be back in a sec
[01:48] <Pelo> razer,  preferably I am told but it works well enough for me in the middle, however , should I ever want to resize my / and /home I'll have to move the swap
[01:49] <tritium> tanath: many use tiff
[01:50] <razer> I tried to name my second mount point /home and it said I can't have he end before the start.
[01:50] <Dante_> to FORWARD the ip-trafic from one interface to the other you'll need to enable forwarding or install a proxy (for example: SQUID)
[01:51] <razer> So / will be where the OS will go right?
[01:51] <tanath> Jordan_U, well, i just tried tesseract, and i must say i'm less than impressed.
[01:51] <Dante_> but with this proxy only http/https and related protocols will be "forwarded"
[01:51] <Pelo> razer, the problem is not with the mountpoint
[01:51] <tanath> Jordan_U, it did terribly, and it's a printed page!
[01:51] <razer> Do I have to click on END for the second primary partition? it gave me an error saying I can't have the end before the start, but I didn't touch that.
[01:52] <tanath> Jordan_U, i think it got one line right, and mangled the few it tried, and ignored the rest
[01:52] <Pelo> razer,  jsut do it this way,   delete this new partiton if you have it,   in the unallocatd space,  rightclick , add new and just specify the size,  and the fs
[01:52] <Dante_> enable forwarding by: echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[01:52] <Jordan_U> tanath, It's very picky about alignment
[01:53] <razer> So I don't have to specify /home as a mount point?
[01:53] <Jordan_U> tanath, And tends to do better at a certain DPI ( sorry but I can't remember which )
[01:53] <Pelo> razer,  you'll do that in the next step
[01:53] <Pelo> razer, same for swap and for /
[01:53] <razer> But it has the mount point field to fill in.
[01:53] <tanath> Jordan_U, the alignment appears to be perfect
[01:54] <Pelo> razer, don'T use the / then just type home , see if it is better
[01:54] <tanath> Jordan_U, i used the default dpi
[01:54] <tanath> Jordan_U, i think i'll try another
[01:54] <tanath> Jordan_U, ocr that
[01:54] <tanath> *that is
[01:54] <Jordan_U> tanath, None of them are very good :(
[01:55] <GTroy> guys...what's the dock app that mimics osx?
[01:55] <Jordan_U> GTroy, AWN
[01:55] <Pelo> GTroy,  google for avant windows navigator
[01:55] <GTroy> thanks Jordan_U
[01:55] <Jordan_U> GTroy, But it does much more than that :)
[01:56] <GTroy> what else?
[01:56] <ARAJABAT> hello, I installed ubuntu in my laptop and then I installed windows. Now I've no acess to my linux. How can I install the grub again? I don't have the Ubuntu CD, I only have a slack cd
[01:56] <Pelo> it also blows
[01:56] <Jordan_U> !grub | ARAJABAT
[01:56] <ubotu> ARAJABAT: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:56] <GTroy> !awn
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> Jordan_U: are there not windows packages for awn?
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> check, linux packages..lol
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> sorry, tired
[01:56] <razer> If I specify home, it says you can't have the end before the start.
[01:57] <Pelo> ARAJABAT,  the easiest way is to get the  super grub cd to fix it,   and then add windows to the grub boot menu ,   check the last link on the bunch ubotu gave you toward the end of the page
[01:57] <Jordan_U> ARAJABAT, I don't know if slack comes with grub though, I know it uses lilo by default
[01:57] <tanath> Jordan_U, this clara app looks like it could be good... i just can't get it to load anything
[01:57] <IndyGunFreak> Pelo: lol, i need it.
[01:58] <Jordan_U> tanath, If I remember correctly clara is the one that has one of the worst GUI's I have ever used
[01:58] <MTecknology> how do I get my mic to work?
[01:58] <Kylie2004> I have added two knew users to my Ubuntu LAMP box.  I've made the users members of the www-data group and given them home directories, I have a apache2 running, and it's hosting a website set up as http/SSL where the user has to login.  The two newest users can't login (inivalid username/password) and I think I must have forgotten a step.  Where should I look to fix this?
[01:58] <tanath> Jordan_U, i'm not paying attn to the gui, but rather the features
[01:58] <ARAJABAT> Pelo, I need download that CD?
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[01:58] <IndyGunFreak> that might do it.
[01:58] <tanath> Jordan_U, don't matter if it works, lol
[01:58] <ARAJABAT> Jordan_U: Yeah, but can I only install again the grub by slack cd?
[01:59] <mssnowflake> does ubuntu come with apache included?
[01:59] <Jordan_U> tanath, You won't be saying that after you try it :)
[01:59] <tanath> Jordan_U, just won't let me load a page... :-/
[01:59] <Pelo> ARAJABAT,  you don'T need to but it it the easiest way,  I never managed to do it with the  howto
[01:59] <razer> This is stupid, I give up on manual. It always says, you can't the end before the start.
[01:59] <razer> I never gave it an end.
[01:59] <tanath> Jordan_U, looking like that won't be an issue... i can't try it :P
[01:59] <IndyGunFreak> is awn available for Gutsy yet, or will the Feisty package work?
[01:59] <voidus> mssnowflake: no
[01:59] <icecool> hey how do i make beryl and gdesklet to run at startup
[02:00] <Pelo> razer,  check the start sector and the end sector in the new partiton dialog, make sure they are in the correct order and that the start sector is one digit higher then the end scector of the previous partition
[02:00] <Jordan_U> icecool, Put them in System -> Preferences -> Sessions, for beryl put "beryl-manager"
[02:00] <wers> other than /usr/share/icons/, in what folder can icon themes be located?
[02:00] <razer> I'll just create more partitions later.
[02:00] <Heatryn> was even weg
[02:00] <Pelo> wers,  ones you added yourself are in /home/user/.icons
[02:01] <razer> I'm going to do guided, use whole space. If I want more partitions I'll create them later.
[02:01] <tanath> Jordan_U, clara just keeps saying 'no pages found'. do you know how to get it working?
[02:01] <Pelo> razer, very wise it will give you a chance to try ubuntu out before you get into that stuff , you 'll understand better how the whole partition/mounpoint thing works
[02:01] <wers> Pelo, I was looking for an icon theme that I installed...something like tango
[02:02] <Pelo> wers,  in /home/usernamehere/.icons , it's a hidden folder so when you get in you /home  ust click crtl + h
[02:02] <Draggin> Hello again - is there a channel specifically for discussing software packages? I don't want to bug people in here asking them about different issues with different apps...
[02:03] <wers> yep. found it but what I was looking for wasnt there, Pelo
[02:03] <Pelo> Draggin,  depends on the pacakge,  start by asking here and if we can'T help we'll try and get you to where they can
[02:03] <Jordan_U> tanath, Try cd'ing into the directory with the files before starting clara
[02:03] <Pelo> wers, that,s where they get installed , sorry
[02:03] <Jordan_U> tanath, It can't look at any other directory
[02:03] <tanath> Jordan_U, tried that
[02:04] <sekinto> I'm trying to make Ubuntu look like Mac OS X, I have Avant Window Navigator with a good theme, I have Compiz Fusion + Emerald with the settings configured properly and a nice them. I also have a good icon set, cursor set, and sounds... but how do you get the toolbar to look like one on a Mac.
[02:04] <sow1> I have a ATI Radeon 9700 and running Gutsy Gibbon beta, as I wanted to try out the new screen & graphics to see if its easier to setup my 2 monitors I have connected.  1 is VGA, the other is connected to the 1 DVI port... however, when I try to setup the extended display.. it doesn't work at all, basically just locks up and I have to reboot.    I've tried the open source and propriatary driver and neither works...  Any ideas on the be
[02:04] <sow1> st way to go?  I would love to see this work as easy as it does in Windows..
[02:04] <Draggin> Pelo - there's a couple that I want to ask about... First one is KGuitar - it seems to be slightly buggy and I want to know if there's anything else available that's similar...
[02:04] <Pelo> wers you can also use the search aplet in  places , add a filter to see the hidden files as well and search for your theme name
[02:04] <tanath> Jordan_U, oh... pbm or pgm
[02:04] <wers> thanks Pelo
[02:04] <Pelo> Draggin,  for kde packages  try asking in #kubuntu
[02:04] <tanath> Jordan_U, don't tell me those are common :P
[02:05] <Draggin> Pelo - okay, but I'm running Ubuntu, not Kubuntu...
[02:05] <Jordan_U> tanath, I  warned you :)
[02:05] <Pelo> Draggin,  you might have some small issues running kde aps in ubuntu but only some graphical things, what is the issue you have in kguitar ?
[02:05] <razer> My school allows me to have a free download of vista, but I don't think I have any reason to for getting it, even for free.................
[02:06] <Pelo> razer,  report your school for mental abuse of the studends,  they're not allowed to do stuff like that
[02:07] <razer> Pelo: I don't know what you said, but I don't think many will want it.
[02:07] <sow1> razer, i agree with that... at most they can sell you the student version of it which is more than free
[02:07] <Polygon89> Im trying to play a wmv file using mplayer. opening the file using the GUI either results in an error or it being really laggy/showing a error message about sound every 1 second.... but then playing the movie using the mplayer command line it works perfectly....... any reason why?
[02:07] <ttominko> hi all....i am nwe to loinux....i've been reading all kinds of wiki pages and help files and how to's but came up with no solution....ATI grapgics....can't get the resolution above 1024x768......help nayone????
[02:07] <Pelo> Jordan_U,  donT' pay attention to me, just trrying to be funny at MS's expence
[02:07] <razer> sow1: No it is the business version of vista.
[02:07] <razer> They let us download an ISO of Vista by Microsoft on DVD business version.
[02:08] <Draggin> Pelo - primarily I have sound issues, but that's not why I say it seems buggy. It seems some other people have also reported that the fonts (or graphics, whichever it may be) that are necessary to display musical notation don't seem to be part of the package, so it's all ASCII gibberish...
[02:08] <razer> You can either download the ISO or have it shipped on a disk.
[02:08] <Pelo> Polygon89,  open a blank instance of mplayer, then go to the preferences ,  and make sure the audio device is  alsa
[02:08] <Jordan_U> ttominko, Have you tried to System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager ?
[02:08] <pierlux> someone now an easy way to package an existing application (from source)? (ie. making .debs)
[02:08] <sow1> doesn't sound right to me
[02:08] <ttominko> yes....no change....
[02:08] <sow1> any ideas on my dual monitor issue?
[02:09] <Polygon89> Pelo, it is... but isnt the mplayer gui just a frontend to mplayer (cli)....so why is the cli working but not the gui
[02:09] <Draggin> I think I may just have solved my other problem though...
[02:09] <ttominko> Jordan_U:yes i did.....no change
[02:09] <razer> What I'm interested in now is how to make a computer that is an all in one cpu, motherboard, vga, ethernet micro atx for low cost to run ubuntu.
[02:09] <Pelo> Draggin,  for the sound I donT' realy know , but for the notes,  you probably need to install the correct font,  not sure what it is ,  check in the repos, using synaptic , type music and font see if anything comes up, also google for a kguitar website see if the have info on this
[02:09] <razer> A pc for like $300 or something.
[02:09] <icecool> hey wht dont my emerald themes work with beryl ........ no decorations show up?
[02:09] <razer> micro atx though
[02:09] <Pelo> Polygon89,  don'T know , you can probably ask in #mplayer they should know
[02:10] <Jordan_U> ttominko, And have you tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh" and setting the res to what you want and the driver to "fglrx" ?
[02:10] <Draggin> Pelo - thanks.  I would like to pick your brain on something else concerning applications too though...
[02:10] <icecool> could it be the problem with my ati card or a problem with something else?
[02:10] <ttominko> will try
[02:10] <Pelo> Draggin,  shoot
[02:10] <Jordan_U> Polygon89, BTW, "the GUI" is called gmplayer
[02:11] <ccharles> hi! does anyone here know the dpkg/apt equivalent to rpm -q --changelog ?
[02:11] <Kudak> guys, is XF86Config still bein' used nowdays in other distro's ?? ?
[02:11] <razer> About how long does Ubuntu take to install?
[02:11] <Pelo> ccharles, man apt and man dpkg see what it says
[02:12] <Pelo> razer,  depends on the amount of memory you have and the cpu , in your case you ahve a pretty big hdd to format so that might take a while,  just the install takes me about 30 min
[02:12] <Draggin> Pelo - I've been using Synaptic, apt-get and the Add/Remove Utility as far as possible up to this point.  There are some things that confuse me a bit.  For one, the Add/Remove utility is merely a graphical interface for apt-get, right? And if this is so, why can I not see all the apps that seemingly are available through apt-get in the Add/Remove utility? KGuitar for instance doesn't show up...
[02:12] <Draggin> ...in Add/REmove, even though I could get it through apt-get
[02:12] <ccharles> Pelo: you'd think i had already tried that, and failed, which is why i came here
[02:12] <Jordan_U> razer, 15-20 minutes
[02:13] <Jordan_U> Draggin, Go to "advanced" ( also known as synaptic :)
[02:13] <Pelo> Draggin,   apt is the package manager for ubuntu,  synaptic is a gui frontend for apt,  so is add/remove , but add remove only shows the applicatisons not every single package,   there is a  little drop down list at the top of the add/remove windows,  you can have different displays  install,  free packages only k, etc , check it out
[02:14] <tanath> Jordan_U, arg, this thing is being difficult. i got it to load the page, but now it won't ocr it
[02:14] <sow1> sigh... why is driver support so bad in linux?
[02:15] <Jordan_U> sow1, Hardware manufacturers refuse to provide documentation
[02:15] <tanath> Jordan_U, or if it is, it's spitting out nothing
[02:16] <sow1> Or I suppose they don't want to release there I.P.
[02:17] <Draggin> Pelo - yes, I am aware of the dropdown. Most of the time I just have it on 'All Available Software'.  But then something else.  When I use apt-get, it most often downloads a bunch of packages from the net before installing.  I have noticed that these packages don't seem to be removed from my hard drive, even if I 'remove' the application.  So two questions - where does Ubuntu store these...
[02:17] <Draggin> ...downloaded packages (if I would for instance like to copy them from my machine to a friend's, who doesn't have internet access at home).  Questions number two - where does it install the actual software to (I want to know this because some packages aren't available through apt-get and I need to download the tarred binaries, so where should I put these after downloading them?)
[02:17] <Jordan_U> sow1, Sometimes they just don't care / their hardware is shoddy and the specs would show it
[02:17] <sow1> sux, I have a simple thing I want to do, super, super easy in windows.. but not so much in linux
[02:17] <Pelo> sow1,  linux support more hardware then windows,  but some makers don't want to give out the info to make driver for their latest stuff, but it is getting better
[02:18] <hentaisushi> how do you set passwords in mysql?
[02:18] <sow1> how do you know it supports "more hardware"
[02:19] <Jordan_U> sow1, For instance some nice people created a driver for broadcom cards ( with no documentation from broadcom, just reverse engineering ) and now Broadcom still wont let distros ship the firmware files to let it run, so there are perfectly good drivers in a Default Ubuntu install, but because Broadcom hates us their cards still don't work out of the box :)
[02:19] <Kudak> where and whats the file name that contains the runlevels ??
[02:20] <Jordan_U> sow1, No IP involved, and they distribute the driver free on their site, just won't let Distros package it
[02:20] <antler> quick question: ati cards, 7.10, compiz-fusion: a peaceful coexistence?
[02:20] <Jordan_U> sow1, ( the driver file contains the needed firmware )
[02:20] <Jordan_U> antler, Not if it needs fglrx
[02:20] <antler> *gulp*. it does, it does.
[02:21] <ttominko> Jordan_U.....u talking about broadcom wifi????
[02:21] <wastrel> 7.10 questions on #ubuntu+1
[02:21] <Pelo> Draggin, the extra packages getting downloaded are dependencies,  you need them to make the app work,  libraries and such,  they don'T get uninstal with the app because they might be needed for another app, you can remove orphan dependencies using synaptic  and apt-get autoclean ,    dled pacakges aer saved in /var/apt/cache I beleive,  but you can't realy use those to transer for a freind as far as I know,    and apps not installed in linux
[02:21] <Pelo> the sameas in windows,  different parts of the apps are stored in differnet folders so other apps can share/use them
[02:21] <Jordan_U> ttominko, Yup
[02:21] <ttominko> Jordan_U where do i get that driver????
[02:21] <antler> thanks, wastrel
[02:21] <Pelo> Draggin,   if you must know , the executables themselves are usualy in   /usr/bin, /bin  /sbin or /usr/sbin
[02:21] <sow1> Thats the propriatary driver though correct, not the open source driver? and they wont let them distribute the propriatary driver?
[02:22] <Jordan_U> ttominko, It's already installed, you just need the firmware ( if your exact chipset is supported )
[02:22] <Pelo> brb
[02:22] <Jordan_U> ttominko, just install the package "bcm43xx-fwcutter"
[02:23] <Jordan_U> ttominko, You can check if your chipset is supported here: http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/?go=devices
[02:23] <sow1> You would think as a hardware manufacture the idea is to sell MORE stuff... not less, and if that means creating a driver for linux to sell more of there product ... I guess I don't get the logic there
[02:24] <solidunit> can someone please help me out? i'm trying to setup my broadcom card with ndiswrapper following a howto off the ubuntu site. my card refuses to associate with my access point with iwconfig
[02:24] <Jordan_U> solidunit, What is the exact chipset?
[02:24] <solidunit> broadcom 4318 rev 2
[02:25] <solidunit> thats according to lspci
[02:25] <Flare183> Any howtos that i can write?
[02:25] <Flare183> before i get off the computer
[02:26] <tanath> Jordan_U, LjL, i don't understand why these packages have been released if they're not even functional
[02:26] <solidunit> Jordan_U: i have ndiswrapper successfully loading the windows driver and i can scan ap's in the vicinity successfully. but setting the essid or ap parameters in iwconfig just does not work
[02:26] <tanath> Jordan_U, LjL, the text couldn't be much easier to recognize :-/
[02:27] <LjL> tanath: they're functional. at least, gocr and ocrad are, i've never tried tesseract but everyone says it's the best of the bunch. they're certainly below-average OCRs, but we told you that.
[02:27] <tanath> LjL, gocr produced garbage, and ocrad isn't working at all so far..
[02:27] <bazhang> Greetings, all. Please don't tell anyone in #kubuntu I'm asking this, but how hard is it to add the GNOME desktop to my current version of Kubuntu? Am familiar with Adept/Synaptic apt-get, aptitude, etc; also, any issue I might face when adding this apart from extra disk space taken up? This is Gutsy, btw, but I'm guessing the changing from Kubuntu to Ubuntu is still the same--thanks much.
[02:27] <Jordan_U> solidunit, Try this page possibly https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4318_%5bAirForce_One_54g%5d
[02:28] <undauntedspirit> anyone know what file the usb filesystem is mounted in?
[02:28] <bododo> hi folks :)
[02:28] <GTroy> bazhang hold on one sec
[02:28] <bododo> why are my fonts rendering ugly on my ubuntu-ppc (ibook G4)
[02:28] <bododo> whatever i do :(
[02:28] <bazhang> GTroy: thanks much
[02:28] <ttominko> Jordan_U: no luck.....it says it doesn't work with my card.....yet
[02:28] <wastrel> bazhang: install ubuntu-desktop for the full gnome thingy
[02:29] <wastrel> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:29] <tanath> LjL, ok, it worked, but not as well as others
[02:29] <GTroy> bazhang....here you go
[02:29] <ttominko> Jordan_U..but the grapics......it says command not found......
[02:29] <LjL> tanath: i can assure you that ocrad from Feisty *does* work. i've used it with Kooka and without. as for gocr spitting out garbage - try tuning the parameters. best if the scan is made in b/w and at a high resolution also.
[02:29] <GTroy> bazhang: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE
[02:29] <Jordan_U> ttominko, What do you mean?
[02:29] <bododo> anyone has ubuntu on a ppc?
[02:29] <tanath> LjL, they function if you count being able to recognize the odd _printed_ characters
[02:29] <bazhang> wastrel: that's would give all the apps, gnomebaker, etc.? Compiz-Fusion basic functionality and so on? Cheers!
[02:30] <solidunit>  Jordan_U: i followed a howto very similar to that except there was no mention of wicd. i'll give it a shot tho
[02:30] <bazhang> GTroy: thanks very much. Really appreciate it.
[02:30] <tanath> LjL, it's a greyscale scan, with decent resolution of printed text
[02:30] <Draggin> Pelo - you still around?  Sorry, I timed out...
[02:30] <ttominko> the reconfigure command you wrote before.....when i type it in terminal....it says command not found....
[02:30] <GTroy> bazhang ... you will be able to use all programs kde and gnome
[02:30] <LjL> tanath: uh of course, just about all OCR software is intended for *printed* stuff, certainly not handwriting if that's what you're saying
[02:30] <Draggin> I don't know if you answered or saw my last question
[02:30] <tanath> LjL, oh, and on gutsy
[02:30] <wastrel> bazhang: that's everything afaik  i duno about fusion, this isn't gusty support yet
[02:30] <bododo> help!! :(
[02:30] <Jordan_U> !xconfig | ttominko
[02:30] <ubotu> ttominko: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[02:31] <LjL> tanath: try plain black and white, or at least experiment with various thresholds
[02:31] <hvgotcodes> is there a reliable guide for installing e17 from cvs?
[02:31] <tanath> LjL, i know there's apps for windows that can recognize writing, so i would have hoped that apps for linux would at least be able to recognize print :(
[02:31] <tanath> LjL, the only options were colour, or greyscale. i thought that was black & white
[02:31] <bazhang> GTroy: thanks again. Will give it a shot.
[02:31] <Draggin> Okay, it looks like Pelo is gone. Could someone else please help me out on this one?  When I use apt-get, it most often downloads a bunch of packages from the net before installing.  I have noticed that these packages don't seem to be removed from my hard drive, even if I 'remove' the application.  So two questions - where does Ubuntu store these downloaded packages (if I would for instance...
[02:31] <Draggin> ...like to copy them from my machine to a friend's, who doesn't have internet access at home).  Questions number two - where does it install the actual software to (I want to know this because some packages aren't available through apt-get and I need to download the tarred binaries, so where should I put these after downloading them?)
[02:31] <LjL> tanath: there is non-free OCR software for Linux that's probably much better. can't recall any names, i just know they exist.
[02:31] <GTroy> bododo I missed your question
[02:31] <bododo> GTroy: :)
[02:32] <wastrel> ocr eh
[02:32] <bazhang> wastrel: appreciate it. thanks again.
[02:32] <sow1> wastrel> Why not? they should be fixing issues with Gutsy now before it freezes?
[02:32] <bododo> GTroy: it was about fonts rendering, thanks for the attention :)
[02:32] <wastrel> sow1: gusty support is #ubuntu+1
[02:32] <undauntedspirit> Anyone know what file the usb filesystem is mounted in at boot?
[02:32] <RoC_MasterMind> Draggin, try "apt-get autoclean"
[02:32] <GTroy> ok, be more specific bododo
[02:32] <razer> What is the easiest way to share folder on osx to ubuntu machine?
[02:32] <RoC_MasterMind> Draggin, or "apt-get clean"
[02:32] <sow1> gotcha
[02:32] <sow1> thanks
[02:32] <bododo> GTroy: i actually have a bunch of similar question which prevent me from using ubuntu as my OS on my ibook
[02:33] <Jordan_U> Draggin, /var/cache/apt/archives/
[02:33] <razer> wait I think its working
[02:33] <Jordan_U> Draggin, Also packages.ubuntu.com
[02:33] <Draggin> RoC_MasterMind - I don't think you see what I'm trying to do - I don't want to get rid of them - I want to know where they are to copy them to a computer without internet connectivity in order to install them
[02:33] <bododo> GTroy: what ever i did, including rebuilding freetype (with byte-encoder stuff) it's ugly
[02:33] <Jordan_U> Draggin, You can also use synaptic from his computer to create a download script to run on another machine
[02:33] <ccharles> pelo: the correct answer next time, is apt-listchanges, or even zless /usr/share/doc/<packagename>/changelog.Debian.gz or if you have internet access, aptitude changelog <packagename> (with thanks to cafuego for telling me)
[02:33] <scag> I need to run "ettercap -G" as root. When I type gksudo ettercap -G, I get an error saying invalid option -G
[02:33] <GTroy> bododo did you do a source install?
[02:34] <_6StringKng_> anyone else having problems with gfire connecting?
[02:34] <RoC_MasterMind> Draggin, yeah I know what you mean...let me try to remember
[02:34] <cafuego> Copyright infringement!!!!
[02:34] <Draggin> Jordan_U - thanks :)  Anything on question two?
[02:34] <bododo> GTroy: of freetype? yes, that's what i did
[02:34] <_6StringKng_> it says connection closed by peer when I try
[02:34] <RoC_MasterMind> /var/cache/apt/archives/ Draggin
[02:34] <GTroy> bododo...go to the directory you installed it in and type $make uninstall
[02:34] <bododo> cafuego: coywhat? i'm african :D
[02:34] <Draggin> Jordan_U - do you have a link on how to create the script in Synaptic?
[02:34] <bododo> GTroy: and?
[02:34] <Draggin> RoC_MasterMind - thanks :)
[02:34] <Jordan_U> Draggin, "which <commandname>" and "whereis <commandname>"
[02:34] <GTroy> it will uninstall
[02:34] <bododo> install it again?
[02:35] <bododo> yes, i know
[02:35] <GTroy> yeah, see if you can do it through synaptic though
[02:35] <RoC_MasterMind> Draggin, packages will unpack files into multiple folders, a deb is just a renamed tar.gz....look in the data archive inside to see what files will go where.
[02:35] <GTroy> it should be a cleaner...more working install that way
[02:35] <panosru> How can i add a port in firewall exceptions so port forwarding will work?
[02:35] <Jordan_U> Draggin, Just select the package(s) you want to install then go to file -> create download script ( or something like that )
[02:35] <Draggin> Jordan_U - so there's not one standard folder, like a 'Program Files' in Windows?
[02:35] <Jordan_U> Draggin, No
[02:35] <bododo> GTroy: i actually build it from sources, so ./configure --prefix=/usr make and make install
[02:35] <bododo> the usual way, see?
[02:36] <scag> I need to run "ettercap -G" as root. When I type gksudo ettercap -G, I get an error saying invalid option -G
[02:36] <Jordan_U> !permissions | Draggin
[02:36] <ubotu> Draggin: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[02:36] <GTroy> bododo is there a package in synaptic for it?
[02:36] <Draggin> Jordan_U - thanks... That's a great help... I'm trying to get a friend onto Linux, but he's only got a 56K modem at home, so no good for downloading software :)
[02:36] <bododo> GTroy: i'm actually on os x right now, for i don't have wifi with wpa yet :(
[02:36] <gorkon> howdy howdy
[02:36] <tanath> panosru, you can generate a firewall script here: http://easyfwgen.morizot.net/gen/index.php
[02:37] <GTroy> no problem bododo
[02:37] <panosru> tanath, thanks i will try it
[02:37] <gorkon> tllts
[02:37] <bododo> :)
[02:37] <_6StringKng_> gfire/gaim help anyone?
[02:37] <_6StringKng_> ??
[02:37] <gorkon> Pat messed up
[02:37] <gorkon> lol
[02:37] <GTroy> persistence pays more than you will believe in fixing problems
[02:37] <wastrel> just ask _6StringKng_
[02:37] <gorkon> yeah it was
[02:37] <bododo> GTroy: do you own a ppc?
[02:37] <GTroy> yeah
[02:37] <GTroy> mac mini
[02:37] <RoC_MasterMind> Draggin, if each program was inside it's own directory, you're $PATH wouldn't work, and youd need to give the full location to every binary...like "/usr/bin/cat file.txt | /bin/grep text"...it would be very annoying
[02:37] <GTroy> no linux on it though
[02:37] <bododo> and what about the twofingerscroll?
[02:37] <_6StringKng_> k, I have been using gfire with gaim np for some time now, but since earlier today it wont connect
[02:38] <bododo> ah... no linux on it :(
[02:38] <_6StringKng_> say "connection closed by peer"
[02:38] <GTroy> I use osx a lot
[02:38] <Draggin> RoC_MasterMind - okay, I understand that, but surely not all of the files that an application needs is installed straight into the /usr/bin folder? Configuration files etc. - does that all just depend on the package?
[02:39] <amicitas> I have a question about volume control. To me the volume control in ubuntu is way too sensitive, by the time I turn the volume to %50 i can barely hear the output.  I would like to change that behavior.  Is there anyway to do this?  I am running 7.10 (development) but this problem existed in 7.04 (Fiesty) as well.
[02:39] <RoC_MasterMind> no, you are correct Draggin
[02:39] <bododo> GTroy: i'm a fedorian, see what i mean ;)
[02:39] <bododo> but it sucks ain't no cd for ppc
[02:39] <bododo> and my internet connexion is way too slow
[02:39] <bododo> so i decieded to try out ubuntu,
[02:39] <bododo> coz  whatever we say
[02:39] <bododo> the kernel is the same :)
[02:39] <GTroy> bododo this is true
[02:40] <Draggin> RoC_MasterMind - cool. thanks for clearing that up for me.  But... doesn't that make it extremely hard to keep track of things on a Linux system and to keep the system 'clean' and running smoothly?
[02:40] <RoC_MasterMind> for example, Draggin try "dpkg -L gedit", that will tell you where all the files in a package are.
[02:40] <scag> I need to run "ettercap -G" as root. When I type gksudo ettercap -G, I get an error saying invalid option -G
[02:40] <RoC_MasterMind> not at all Draggin
[02:40] <wastrel> Draggin: that's why people like package managers
[02:40] <RoC_MasterMind> it's easy to tell if something is installed...try "dpkg -l gedit"....or "dpkg -L gedit" to see the locations of all files in a package (If it's installed).
[02:41] <solidunit> Jordan_U: the last part of that howto worked! thanks! wicd fixes all my wireless issues
[02:41] <scag> !gksudo
[02:41] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>  - See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo for more info
[02:41] <Draggin> wastrel, RoC_MasterMind - cool, things are starting to make more sense now...
[02:41] <bododo_> sorry i was disconnected
[02:42] <bododo_> did i said a silly thing ? :(
[02:42] <RoC_MasterMind> amicitas, I had a similiar issue, open the volume control, click change device, see if you have a OSS mixer....the OSS mixer is used as a multiplier on the ALSA mixer...they are multiplied together...play with the levels.
[02:42] <Jordan_U> Draggin, It is all MUCH better than a registry :)
[02:42] <Demize> Hello.
[02:42] <Draggin> Jordan_U - that much I've already figured :)  The registry in Windows is a nightmare, but I'm very new to Linux, so it's quite a learning curve for me
[02:42] <scag> I need to run "ettercap -G" as root. When I type gksudo ettercap -G, I get an error saying invalid option -G. How do I do it?
[02:43] <gorkon> Hey let's have a lemon party....NOT!
[02:43] <dremth> I'm reformatting my hard drive that has ubuntu on it. What folders can I copy that has all my themes, fonts, icon themes, logons, backgrounds, sounds, splash screens, etc?
[02:43] <PupUser40646e> Hi, I just installed feisty on a m140 laptop, but I see no way to connect to an unsecured wireless network?
[02:43] <ant-_> scag, use sudo instead
[02:43] <gorkon> lol...borgasm
[02:43] <Jordan_U> scag, gksudo "command"
[02:43] <bododo_> well
[02:43] <Jordan_U> scag, In quotes
[02:43] <bododo_> bye folks
[02:43] <scag> ah
[02:43] <scag> okay
[02:44] <dremth> I'm reformatting my hard drive that has ubuntu on it. What folders can I copy that has all my themes, fonts, icon themes, logons, backgrounds, sounds, splash screens, etc?
[02:44] <Demize> How would I go about updating Ubuntu to the current beta?
[02:44] <amicitas> RoC_MasterMind: I don't think I see what you are saying, when I change on level, the other also changes, the two bars are connected.
[02:44] <Demize> Just re-install it?
[02:44] <PupUser40646e> How do I connect to an unsecured wireless network?
[02:45] <RoC_MasterMind> nononononononono amicitas click the Change Device menu item, then see if you have two different devices...select the other one...you will see a new mixer.
[02:45] <hdevalence> where is the eclipse install dir?
[02:45] <wastrel> dremth:   ~/.icons  ~/.themes
[02:45] <Demize> Simple; you just click it on the drop down
[02:45] <Demize> That was for PuP
[02:45] <Alp`> i have a green horizontal bar in all of my divx files. how can i fix that?
[02:46] <Alp`> its located in the top
[02:46] <Demize> Anyone?
[02:46] <dremth> wastrel, so if i just copied my whole home directory it would work if i just copied it all back after a fresh install?
[02:46] <PupUser40646e> Demize, I see the networks, but there's no option for no password?
[02:46] <ttominko> ubotu: When i enter the <sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh> i have set the driver to use 1280x800...my desired resolution as well and no change.....
[02:46] <amicitas> RoC_MasterMind: Right I go to the change devices and I have two devices listed. I click on OSS, go the recording tab and change the mater volume (there is no master on the playback tab).  Then I go back to the ALSA device and the master volume has changed to the level that I set under OSS.
[02:46] <PupUser40646e> I have two unsecured access points in range, but the network wizrd only allows for passworded networks.
[02:47] <wastrel> dremth: your home should have most stuff but some of your things may have been installed in other system directories... depends how you did things
[02:47] <wastrel> dremth: check out /usr/share/  also
[02:47] <wastrel> /usr/local/share also i guess
[02:47] <PupUser40646e> Network wizard only shows options for wpa or wep, no unsecured.
[02:47] <wastrel> a lot of that stuff is ubuntu package themes and fonts
[02:48] <dremth> wastrel, ive been trying to just burn everything but everytime i try that, nautilus freezes up
[02:48] <dremth> wastrel, what would i copy for ndiswrapper stuff and regular network setting stuff?
[02:48] <RoC_MasterMind> amicitas, on the OSS device, goto the playback tab and change the PCM volume
[02:48] <RoC_MasterMind> amicitas, increase it
[02:48] <ttominko> jordan_U: When i enter the <sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh> i have set the driver to use 1280x800...my desired resolution as well and no change.....
[02:49] <wastrel> dremth: dunno, never worked with ndiswrapper
[02:49] <ferrouswheel> i'm trying to get gstreamer-properties to use a custom sink "alsasink device="dmix"", but when i close the changes are not saved. anybody know the config file that gstreamer-properties writes to?
[02:49] <amicitas> RoC_MasterMind: The only bar under playback is "Speaker".
[02:49] <sainzeo> i'm trying to setup an external monitor with gutsy, but i haven't been able to do this correctly - does anyone have suggestions?
[02:49] <Demize> Pup, all you need to do is click.
[02:49] <gogeta> omg to quite
[02:50] <gorkon> Warp 11
[02:50] <wastrel> gusty questions in #ubuntu+1
[02:50] <seanm1> reviewed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs but cant get wireless to be detected
[02:50] <seanm1> help!!
[02:50] <PupUser40646e> Demize: I click the network access point and it doesn't connect.  Every other computer in the house works.
[02:50] <Demize> How would I install the beta of Gusty? Would I just install over what I have?
[02:50] <gogeta> !ask seanm1
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask seanm1 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <wastrel> gusty questions in #ubuntu+1
[02:51] <gogeta> !anybody
[02:51] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:51] <Demize> It might be Ubuntu then.
[02:51] <dremth> wastrel, i don't really need it but it makes my connection more stable (i have wireless). when i dont have it my wireless says im connected but i get timed out on every connection i try to make. with ndiswrapper it happens less. i wrote a program that is similar to the windows xp wireless repair function. it just shuts down wireless and brings it back up.... i find that in ubuntu, it has less and less of an effect. im puzzled as to know
[02:51] <dremth>  why.
[02:51] <RoC_MasterMind> amicitas, then adjust that
[02:51] <PupUser40646e> How do I connect a brand new fiesty install to an unsecured wireless network when network wizard only has WEP and WPA?
[02:51] <Dr_willis> Demize,  you can do a clean install, or upgrade.  depending on your needs.
[02:52] <speedy20> hello? i need help
[02:52] <amicitas> RoC_MasterMind:  When I ajust that, there is no difference in the sound ouput, the "PC Speaker" under the Alsa Mixer now has the same value as the "speaker" under OSS.
[02:52] <speedy20> how do i get real player ?
[02:52] <Dr_willis> 'Please State the nature of the Linux Emergancy' :)
[02:53] <dremth> whats the best way to burn a dvd in ubuntu
[02:53] <scottDkoDer> What's the command to check your disk space on a particular partition?
[02:53] <gogeta> heehehe
[02:53] <RoC_MasterMind> speedy20, why do you need it?
[02:53] <Dr_willis> !realplayer
[02:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:53] <Dr_willis> This is like the 5th real player person ive seen today. :)
[02:53] <astro76> scottDkoDer, df -h
[02:53] <speedy20> so i can view videos online from diz website....
[02:53] <speedy20> lol wow
[02:53] <gogeta> willas we sould program the bot  to say that
[02:54] <Dr_willis> The realplayer web site has some download. :) its a .bin, you chmod +x the .bin then ./watever.bin to install it.
[02:54] <PupUser40646e> I guess I'll try gutsy?
[02:54] <Dr_willis> Not sure what realplayer stuff is in the repos.
[02:54] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  :)
[02:54] <speedy20> diz website anime6.org    im tryin to watch dragonb ballz  but i need real player for it
[02:54] <Demize> Nobody's awake in Gusty.
[02:54] <gogeta> heh
[02:55] <gogeta> isnt real player in the apt-get
[02:55] <gogeta> as well
[02:55] <dissection> When I insert a blu-ray disc, it doesn't get mounted. What do I need to do to make it work?
[02:55] <PupUser40646e> I mean I'll try installing gutsy, people say it works where fiesty doesn't.
[02:55] <speedy20> no i tried there but it didnt find it
[02:55] <RoC_MasterMind> amicitas, my setup is like this:  OSS mixer at 80%, ALSA master at 100%, then I adjust the ALSA PCM as necessary
[02:56] <Fer_re> hello people!
[02:56] <dremth> does anyone know why ubuntu has been freezing up lately? if i try to open a terminal, the terminal freezes (same with gedit and sometimes nautilus), then the desktop freezes after i force quit, and then i have to restart the x server. then when im back at the login, i type my user and password and when it should be the splash screen, it's just black. then i have to restart to login again.
[02:56] <Demize> Hi.
[02:56] <Fer_re> Is there anybody who can help me?
[02:56] <pike__> !ask :-)
[02:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask :-) - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:56] <gogeta> i think its in the cannal repos and also now in gusty
[02:56] <pawan> hi
[02:56] <scottDkoDer> astro76: thx
[02:56] <pike__> !ask |:-)
[02:56] <ubotu> :-): Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:56] <pawan> when is the new version coming out
[02:57] <Fer_re> Please tell me, how I can manually select which version of same package my aptitude will install?
[02:57] <gogeta> pawan its nopt delayed forever
[02:57] <speedy20> how can change the permission so i can modify my sd1(windows) drive?
[02:57] <RoC_MasterMind> dremth, make a new user...test out that new user account, see if the freezes happen there too.
[02:57] <pawan> what
[02:57] <Pici> pawan: 18th
[02:57] <pike__> !ntfs-3g | speedy20
[02:57] <ubotu> speedy20: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:57] <gogeta> thers a coutdown on the main site jeez
[02:57] <dremth> RoC_MasterMind: well right now, im in recovery mode logged in as root
[02:58] <Demize> I have a Gateway MX3414.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:01] <NemesisD> anyone know of a cross platform vnc client? I want to be able to provide windows (server side) support from linux (client size). preferably something thats pretty easy to use from the server side
[03:01] <dremth> does anyone know why ubuntu has been freezing up lately? if i try to open a terminal, the terminal freezes (same with gedit and sometimes nautilus), then the desktop freezes after i force quit, and then i have to restart the x server. then when im back at the login, i type my user and password and when it should be the splash screen, it's just black. then i have to restart to login again.
[03:01] <Dragnslcr> Anyone know a way to translate gamepad buttons to keystrokes?
[03:02] <Wips_> I'm having problems being able to browse my shared files on a windows Laptop.. I've been able to ping between both this ubuntu computer and the Windows-laptop
[03:03] <bazhang> Dragnslcr: you can get a USB gamepad controller
[03:03] <Dragnslcr> NemesisD- pretty much any VNC client will work with any VNC server (VNC is really a protocol, not a specific program)
[03:03] <Dragnslcr> bazhang- yup, I have one. I'm trying to get it to work with games that don't have gamepad support
[03:04] <dremth> does anyone know why ubuntu has been freezing up lately? if i try to open a terminal, the terminal freezes (same with gedit and sometimes nautilus), then the desktop freezes after i force quit, and then i have to restart the x server. then when im back at the login, i type my user and password and when it should be the splash screen, it's just black. then i have to restart to login again.
[03:04] <bazhang> Dragnslcr: oh ok; not sure about that one. Cheers!
[03:04] <speedy20> how do i install the xdcc-klipper pluging for x-chat or ksirc ?
[03:05] <pike__> dremth: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log and such maybe someone can help ya
[03:06] <disregardnotific> hmm
[03:06] <Wips_> I can't find my ubuntu on a windows-laptop and vice versa.. I've tried setting up Samba but i won't work
[03:06] <fouressence> Hi.  I just made a rather silly mistake --I deleted a partition I shouldn't have.  Most of the data was backed up to other drives, but some would be nice to get back...  Having not actually formatted the drive, is there any way to access the data from the previous partition?  ('twas a single Ext3 for the entire drive)
[03:06] <disregardnotific> anyone here familiar with how the cpu works?
[03:06] <fevel> hello
[03:07] <Demize> Maybe that's it...
[03:07] <Pelo> Wips, if noone here can help you try asking in #samba
[03:07] <RAdam1> my mic is not working in any application, yet I can hear myself
[03:07] <fevel> can someone please help me upgrade to gutsy?
[03:07] <fevel> I am using feisty
[03:07] <chetnick> anybody know some good system monitor desktop applet  for Gnome
[03:07] <RAdam1> fevel: #ubuntu+1
[03:07] <chetnick> ?
[03:07] <pike__> fouressence: partition table is kinda a pain to recover..
[03:07] <Demize> ubotu: the first link says that alsa sound is muted by defualt.
[03:07] <Pelo> disregardnotific, in general terms,  try asking a specific questions
[03:07] <Pelo> chetnick,  what info do you want ?
[03:07] <cafuego> disregardnotific: if a certain voltage is triggered on the transistor inputs, an output is generated.
[03:07] <RAdam1> chetnick: what don't you like about the builtin one?
[03:07] <pawan> hello
[03:07] <fouressence> pike__: Anywhere you can point me for learning about it?
[03:08] <chetnick> is there any?
[03:08] <RAdam1> my mic is not working in any application, yet I can hear myself. suggestions?
[03:08] <chetnick> i just found the one for the panel
[03:08] <cafuego> it's all quite simple semiconductor physics, but I doubt it's on topic for #ubuntu
[03:08] <disregardnotific> when you boot up you're cpu does it start at a default memory location that universal to all hdd?
[03:08] <Pelo> chetnick, several I'm trying to figure out what info you want displayed
[03:08] <chetnick> aaaaa
[03:08] <chetnick> cpu
[03:08] <chetnick> ram
[03:08] <chetnick> hard disk
[03:09] <pike__> fouressence: unless you remember exact size and such youd need to have made a backup with dd or something i think. i could be wrong
[03:09] <chetnick> and maybe something else
[03:09] <disregardnotific> or is there some memory on the mobo that points to where to start on the hdd?
[03:09] <chetnick> maybe network
[03:09] <Pelo> chetnick, gkrll I think it is called you can also have some desklets for that with gdesklets
[03:09] <cafuego> disregardnotific: No, the bios reads the first few sectors off the specified boot device and executes the result.
[03:09] <chetnick> Pelo thanks
[03:10] <cafuego> disregardnotific: "boot sector"
[03:10] <disregardnotific> boot sector is store where?
[03:10] <disregardnotific> on ur hdd right?
[03:10] <cafuego> On the harddisk
[03:10] <fouressence> pike__: Well, the partition was the entire size of the drive, so...
[03:10] <disregardnotific> k
[03:10] <cafuego> Of course, it cna read it off a cd as well.. or a usb device...
[03:10] <fouressence> pike__: in a way I suppose I do kind know the size of the partition
[03:10] <disregardnotific> is it possible to boot from a flash drive?
[03:10] <cafuego> if your mobo supports it, yes
[03:11] <disregardnotific> thx
[03:11] <pike__> fouressence: i guess you could try remaking it the way you did before.. i really dont know ive only ever backed em up not hosed em :)
[03:11] <Pelo> chetnick, gkrellm
[03:11] <chetnick> ok :) i could find the one before
[03:11] <chetnick> i was like what a f ... :)
[03:11] <disregardnotific> so if i swap my hdds and wipe one of them clean, it should have not effect on my other hdd?
[03:12] <disregardnotific> no*
[03:12] <Pelo> chetnick, its an odd name, I always have trouble remembering it
[03:12] <fouressence> pike__: Thanks for the time and thoughts. :)  I'll see what I can dig up online.
[03:12] <Pelo> disregardnotific, might have some issues with  grub
[03:13] <hdevalence> so how would I unzip a .zip from the cli?
[03:13] <disregardnotific> hmm
[03:13] <wastrel> unzip file.zip
[03:13] <disregardnotific> how about if the two hdd were independent from each other
[03:13] <speedy20> can any1 tell me how do i intall xdcc-klipper?
[03:13] <pike__> fouressence: i did once mess up partition on my ipod installing linux to it. i removed it in fdisk and then remade it just fine with no data loss
[03:13] <disregardnotific> i want to wipe my hdd before adding it to my comp
[03:13] <Dr_willis> !find xdcc-klipper
[03:13] <scag> When I insert a blu-ray disc, it doesn't get mounted. What do I need to do to make it work?
[03:14] <ubotu> Package/file xdcc-klipper does not exist in feisty
[03:14] <fevel> I have installed kubuntu-desktop and didnt adapt, but I chose kdm and now I dont know how to default back, can someon please help me
[03:14] <pike__> fouressence: removed and wrote it and fixed after a reboot
[03:14] <Pelo> disregardnotific,  the issue would be if phase one of grub is on he hdd you remove,  and fi the boot order changes
[03:14] <hdevalence> scag: what kind of bluray
[03:14] <Dr_willis> speedy20,  if you cant find a repository for it. use the source, or if lucky find a precompiled .deb
[03:14] <Pelo> disregardnotific,  it's easy enough to fix
[03:14] <fouressence> pike__: Really?  Hmm, I'll give that a try if nothing else pops up. :D
[03:14] <disregardnotific> ok thx
[03:14] <scag> hdevalence: BD-R
[03:14] <hdevalence> scag: no idea
[03:15] <Pelo> disregardnotific, i suggest you get the super grub cd before doing anyting, it will make things easier
[03:15] <odinriko> Is there any form of sidebar app for gnome akin to windows sidebar or the google deskbar?
[03:15] <open-gl> do they have dreamweaver for linux
[03:15] <Demize> I don;t like Windows. It's too slow.
[03:15] <Pelo> odinriko,  gkrellm or  gdeskelts
[03:15] <preaction> !html | open-gl
[03:15] <ubotu> open-gl: html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build web pages.  Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and KompoZer(Nvu).  For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com/
[03:15] <Pelo> odinriko,  or screenlets
[03:15] <gogeta> disregardnotific whipe how so dod or format
[03:16] <preaction> open-gl, dreamweaver is a horrible program for web design, bluefish and quanta are nice though
[03:16] <speedy20> how do i use the source?
[03:16] <MoNsTeR> how do i update to ubuntu gutsy
[03:16] <odinriko> thank you Pelo
[03:16] <gogeta> open-gl is still hear :)
[03:16] <MoNsTeR> from my feisty version?
[03:16] <Pelo> speedy20,  you need to compile it ,  check in this link to learn how  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[03:16] <scag> Will Gutsy be able to read Blu-ray discs?
[03:17] <Demize> I use a text editor for my HTML... And PHP...
[03:17] <Pelo> MoNsTeR, ask in #ubuntu+1 or wait 11 days for ubuntu to do it for you
[03:17] <gogeta> http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/gutsybeta
[03:17] <Dr_willis> speedy20,  download the source from the progarms homepage, install the needed developer tools/packages/cpmpilers and libs. compile the source.
[03:17] <MoNsTeR> ok pelo
[03:17] <gogeta> heh
[03:19] <wabbit> hey got a quick question, in system, admin, services, i have squid checked to load, but every reboot, it shows the procs as stoped?
[03:19] <wastrel> squid
[03:19] <wabbit> sudo /etc/init.d/squid restart
[03:20] <Pelo> wabbit,  start it manualy then goto menu > sytem > prefs > session '  3rd tab , click save session ( make sure you only hve stuff you want to start on boot opened)
[03:20] <wabbit> i have to reboot the service to start
[03:20] <speedy20> i hav it as an .mrc file....i can load it with mirc but i dunno how to  with xchat or ksirc
[03:20] <Pelo> wabbit,  start it manualy then goto menu > sytem > prefs > session '  3rd tab , click save session ( make sure you only hve stuff you want to start on boot opened)
[03:20] <Pici> speedy20: I don't believe mirc scripts are compatible with any other chat client.
[03:20] <Dr_willis> speedy20,   i have no idea what a .mrc file is.. if its mirc related.. you are out of luck. time to learn a better irc client. :)
[03:20] <gogeta> LOL
[03:21] <gogeta> is mirc even linux
[03:21] <wabbit> thank you pelo !
[03:21] <gogeta> i dont tink it is
[03:21] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  mirc is barely windows. :)
[03:21] <speedy20> no mirc is for windows
[03:21] <gogeta> hehe
[03:21] <Pici> speedy20: It does run under Wine, or so I'm told
[03:21] <dissection> When I insert a blu-ray disc, it doesn't get mounted. What do I need to install, to make it work?
[03:21] <speedy20> yea it does
[03:21] <gogeta> lol mirc under wine
[03:21] <gogeta> what a wast
[03:21] <Dr_willis> dissection,  try just mounting it manually?  wonder what filesystem those use...
[03:21] <RAdams> lol!
[03:21] <gogeta> almost every linux chat ap has irc support
[03:21] <Dr_willis> blueray = udf?
[03:21] <RoC_MasterMind> What is the difference between like deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-updates and deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty?
[03:21] <dissection> Dr_willis: How do I mount it manually?
[03:22] <Dr_willis> dissection,  mount /dev/whatever -t somthing /media/whatever
[03:22] <Pelo> dissection, not sure you can read bleuray in ubuntu,  check in the forum www.ubuntuforums.org
[03:22] <Dr_willis> !mount
[03:22] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:22] <speedy20> i know how to use xchat and ksirc
[03:22] <sigger_> anyone know why I always have to run dhclient from shell whenever I boot my lappy?
[03:22] <pike__> sigger_: /etc/network/interfaces
[03:22] <pike__> sigger_: auto eth0 or whatever
[03:22] <sigger_> mmm, thanks pike_
[03:23] <dissection> Pelo: Nero Linux says it can burn Blu-ray discs
[03:23] <wabbit> brb rebooting
[03:23] <Pelo> Dr_willis, well youhve to admit it's a nice big storage format
[03:23] <Demize> Dr_willis: Good question
[03:23] <gogeta> i nice big useless one
[03:23] <Pelo> dissection,  do you hve a blu-ray capable drive ?
[03:23] <Dr_willis> Pelo,  for the cost.. i think i will stick with my stack of 'external usb hard drives' :)
[03:23] <dissection> Pelo: Yes, I have a BD-RE drive
[03:23] <Demize> How about just CD-ROMS?
[03:23] <Dr_willis> The price of DL DVD disks are still outragous. :)
[03:23] <Pelo> dissection,  does ubuntu recognise it ?
[03:23] <gogeta> willis i will stick to my stack of dl dvds 8 gigs dirt cheap
[03:23] <Demize> Small, but efficant and cheap.
[03:24] <dissection> Pelo: Its only reading DVDs and CDs (in Linux). I don't know what I need to install for it to read Blu-ray
[03:24] <Dr_willis> gogeta,   whats the best price youve seen for DVD-DL's ?
[03:24] <gogeta> willis couse they have hgh failer rates in pruduction
[03:24] <Pelo> dissection, does nero-linux read /see the media ?
[03:24] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  is that their excuse. :)
[03:24] <gogeta> willis anought a buck a pice
[03:24] <dissection> Pelo: No
[03:25] <Demize> Dissection, if it's a Blu-ray drive it should automatically be able to read bluray discs.
[03:25] <Dr_willis> gogeta,  vs like .20$ for a dvd+r  - Sigh...
[03:25] <Neodudeman> Hi, I have a partition problem, can someone help me out?
[03:25] <Dr_willis> ill guess i stick with the stacks of dvd+rs i got for now.
[03:25] <dissection> Demize: Well its not working in Linux. There're no problems in Windows.
[03:25] <MoNsTeR> how do i install a font?
[03:25] <Pelo> dissection, check the forum , but I think nero might be lying or you don't have the correct version, nero-linux is pretty basic
[03:25] <gogeta> willis i got a mutch larger stack of dvd r
[03:25] <gogeta> hehe
[03:25] <gotama> Hi! Is there any way how to collect information of the hardware of a pc without having to open it? A fllopy disk solution?
[03:25] <dissection> Pelo: Nero Linux 3
[03:25] <Neodudeman> I came by ealier, and I got gparted running; but I can't seem to make a boot disk out of gparted.
[03:25] <Pelo> MoNsTeR,  search for fonts in  synaptic
[03:25] <digbert> Is it true that Ubuntu will start using this: http://ebox-platform.com/ ?
[03:25] <RoC_MasterMind> gotama, System/Preferences/Hardware
[03:26] <MoNsTeR> Pelo, ok
[03:26] <Pelo> dissection, I donT' use nero myself , check in www.ubuntuforums.org or on the nero site
[03:26] <gogeta> willis i use my dls for puting like a enterire serise on 1 disk
[03:26] <RoC_MasterMind> gotama, or my favorite "lshw"
[03:26] <Neodudeman> I burned the LiveCD from the gparted website, and it just won't live up.
[03:26] <gotama> I have no hard disk.
[03:26] <Pelo> !fonts | MoNsTeR  also this
[03:26] <ubotu> MoNsTeR  also this: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[03:26] <genii> gotama: If it has a bootable cdrom Ultimate Boot CD has some very thorough tools
[03:26] <Demize> Hmm... No idea. Maybe when I'm older. Right now grade 7 is enough for me; I don't want to debug someone's computer remotely. :P
[03:26] <Frogzoo> gotama: lshw
[03:26] <bulmer> gotama if you were using windows , WMI would allow access to those, in linux, you proly have to dig through /proc
[03:26] <Dr_willis> gogeta, .. gee..  i never thought of that...  >wink< >wink<
[03:26] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:27] <gotama> I'm setting some pcs to use ltsp, so I have just a floppy disk and a screen.
[03:27] <Dr_willis> Neodudeman,  you sure you burnt it properly? check the disk in windows. see whats on it.
[03:28] <whileimhere> hey there.
[03:28] <Neodudeman> Dr_willis: kk. I'll check under windows. What should it have in it?
[03:28] <genii> gotama: do they already boot from network?
[03:28] <bulmer> gotama if your nic card supports pxe, thats what you need
[03:28] <tux78> hi whileimhere
[03:28] <whileimhere> I have a gravis gamepad pro that attaches via the port on the soundcard.
[03:28] <Pelo> whileimhere, and the question is ?
[03:28] <smo> hi
[03:28] <whileimhere> I cant seem to get it to work at all even in the jscalibrator program
[03:29] <TUXedomember> is there a way in ubuntu to use a none crossover cable to connect to computers via ethernet, and telling the computer to make eth0 a crossover?
[03:29] <smo> how can i add "extra commands" to the adduser command
[03:29] <disregardnotific> how crappy is a voodoo3 graphics card?
[03:29] <smo> i want to add a cp and 2 sed commands
[03:29] <Dr_willis> Neodudeman,  if you have a single large .iso file.. you did it wrong. :) if it has a lot of other files.. guess it was done right. How did you burn the .iso file?
[03:29] <smo> any idears?
[03:29] <disregardnotific> is it sufficient to do basic stuff?
[03:29] <Pelo> whileimhere, check the model here and in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport