[00:42] <diddledan> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/10/03/yahoo_says_one_beeelion_user_hack_figure_wrong_its_three/
[01:03] <m0nkey_> diddledan: you still awake?
[01:03] <diddledan> nope
[01:04] <m0nkey_> lol
[01:04] <m0nkey_> I think I've solved my issue with calling other programs from perl, without it launching a shell
[01:04] <diddledan> \o/
[01:04] <m0nkey_> https://pastebin.com/A0BhGjUq
[01:05] <diddledan> aha
[01:05] <diddledan> fork
[01:05] <m0nkey_> yeah
[01:05] <m0nkey_> super simple
[01:05] <m0nkey_> and it works
[01:06] <m0nkey_> now, I have to figure out how I can run the command remotely. but I guess my program is my ssh session and my options and args are my actual application and args
[01:06] <m0nkey_> nice thing now, i have a way to add, remove and validate all options and args before executing
[01:06] <m0nkey_> simple to itterate through the array and remove anything that breaks out, such as & or |
[01:07] <m0nkey_> so something like:
[01:07] <m0nkey_> for(@options) { s/(\||\&)//g; }
[01:08] <m0nkey_> that should be enough to remove any crap
[01:08] <diddledan> check for ; too
[01:09] <m0nkey_> good idea
[01:09] <m0nkey_> yeah, that code works
[01:10] <diddledan> awesome
[01:10] <m0nkey_> ping: cannot resolve <IP_ADDRESS>echo hello: Unknown host
[01:10] <m0nkey_> child exited 17408 at ./fork.pl line 26.
[01:10] <m0nkey_> just stripped that crap
[01:11] <m0nkey_> even more regex: s/\Q(\||\&|\;)\E//g;
[01:11] <m0nkey_> \Q and \E to treat everything as a string
[01:11] <m0nkey_> so no nasty escape sequences
[01:13] <m0nkey_> change the for to a map and voila!
[01:13] <m0nkey_> map { s/\Q(\||\&|\;)\E//g; } @options;
[01:13] <m0nkey_> that should be enough to strip all the crap
[01:13] <diddledan> step 2: ..., step 3: profit
[01:18] <m0nkey_> ok, so this is the final snippit.. https://pastebin.com/A0BhGjUq
[01:19] <diddledan> Simples
[01:22] <m0nkey_> and backtick, that can be used to execute code too
[01:22] <m0nkey_> https://pastebin.com/A0BhGjUq
[01:22] <m0nkey_> that should be it
[01:22] <m0nkey_> i modified it to write the output of the code to a buffer instead of stdout
[01:22] <m0nkey_> allowing me then to keep the output in a var
[01:37] <m0nkey_> #perl tell me I don't need to escape. seems they're right. it gets treated like a normal character
[01:47] <diddledan> Lol, MS says of SQL Server “this is not just a database engine. This is an enterprise database platform” <— what’s the diff??
[01:49] <diddledan> That’s from this video: https://youtu.be/mvr143yvLmk
[01:59] <m0nkey_> im out
[01:59] <m0nkey_> g'night folks
[01:59] <diddledan> No
[01:59] <diddledan> Err
[01:59] <diddledan> Nn
[02:00] <diddledan> Silly auto erect
[02:00] <m0nkey_> Indeed. Silly erect.
[02:00] <m0nkey_> cya
[06:18] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[06:58] <diplo> Morning all
[07:08] <SuperMatt> good morning
[07:11] <brobostigon> morning
[07:40] <MooDoo> howdy all
[07:46] <SuperMatt> howdoomoodoo?
[07:47] <MooDoo> :)
[07:52] <SuperMatt> oh man, I don't want to work today
[07:52] <SuperMatt> or ever
[07:55] <MooDoo> you're not the only one mat4y
[07:55] <MooDoo> see can't even type today lol
[07:58] <SuperMatt> indeed
[07:58] <SuperMatt> typing is for losers
[08:49] <zmoylan-pi> i win \o/ i get to go to hospital with a wonky foot
[08:56] <MooDoo> boooooooooooo
[11:47] <diplo> popey: Just trying gnome-contacts on Solus and it's failing to load.. where is the best place to go from here ? the forums or a repo ?
[11:48] <popey> yeah, try the forum, and tag @kenvandine on it
[11:48] <diplo> I just found a post mentioning gnome-contacts
[11:48] <diplo> thanks
[12:33] <SuperMatt> diplo: Ubuntu
[12:33] <SuperMatt> ;_
[12:33] <SuperMatt> ;)
[12:36] <diplo> heh, I was waiting for one person to do that SuperMatt :)
[12:37] <diplo> Just knew I'd get him here and it's snappy related which is ubuntu
[14:27] <diddledan> who wears short shorts?
[14:27] <diplo> Nope, never..
[14:28] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcvjXAtzaMU
[14:32] <diddledan> omg, CD-ROMs?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NU_XI7fguI
[14:41] <diddledan> lol, love that they thought that the killer product to put on CDROM was "more encyclopedias, better encyclopedias..."
[14:45] <zmoylan-pi> encarta did very well.  a new version every year. kerching
[14:59] <zmoylan-pi> of course in the early years encarta made a lot of dosh for pc sales.... no it won't work if your pc has no cd-rom....  no it's better with sound...
[15:08] <diddledan> nearly time for the googs (50 minutes)
[15:09] <zmoylan-pi> come see our new phones without headphone jacks?
[15:09] <diddledan> yup
[15:09] <zmoylan-pi> how... untempting
[15:09] <diddledan> annoyingly, I'll only see the first 30 minuets live, cos I have to go out at 5:30
[15:10] <zmoylan-pi> see if only you had google glass 3 you watch it on the fly out and about till you walk into a lampost not marked on os maps :-P
[15:10] <diddledan> :-)
[15:19] <zmoylan-pi> fixed in google glass 4!
[15:53] <daftykins> crikey, domain registrar's DNS control panels can be so inconsistent
[15:59] <diddledan> it's android time
[15:59] <diddledan> life stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YGoxbeSzLc
[15:59] <diddledan> live, too
[16:00]  * zmoylan-pi puts on the soap opera androids... hums away to the theme tune...
[16:00] <daftykins> time for another $900 phone announcement
[16:05] <diddledan> human lives matter too. AIs shouldn't be privileged
[16:06] <diddledan> I vote for "people first" rather than "AI First"
[16:06] <zmoylan-pi> be quiet human, or we'll cut your food pellet supply!
[16:09] <diddledan> AI and Software and Hardware?? you mean AI isn't software?
[16:10] <diddledan> AIs are designing AIs now???!
[16:10] <diddledan> has nobody even watched terminator?!
[16:12] <zmoylan-pi> but it'll obey the generals who pay for it, the salesman said so
[16:12] <daftykins> sales reps in the front row, mmm that's not what i'd want to hear XD
[16:13] <zmoylan-pi> if they bring out ed-209 duck!
[16:13] <diddledan> you have three seconds to comply
[16:17] <diddledan> surprise, we're not releasing new phones
[16:18] <zmoylan-pi> smart suppositories?
[16:18] <diddledan> mmmm
[16:18] <zmoylan-pi> no one will ever mug you for it...
[16:18] <diddledan> I wonder how many times they're gonna say "Deep Learning"
[16:18] <diddledan> BINGO
[16:19] <daftykins> it's so uninteresting
[16:19] <diddledan> radically helpful
[16:19] <zmoylan-pi> it's a sales pitch with nothing new to show...
[16:20] <diddledan> two different presenters, and nothing new yet
[16:21] <zmoylan-pi> be excited aout the cloud!
[16:21] <diddledan> maybe three is a charm
[16:23] <diddledan> handsfree calling in the UK? free?
[16:24] <diddledan> fourth presenter, and still no new hardware
[16:27]  * daftykins suddenly remembers Arnold Rimmer instructing the Scutters to repaint Red Dwarf
[16:28] <zmoylan-pi> it was the wrong shade of gray
[16:30] <zmoylan-pi> and it's arnold j. rimmer ssc bsc to you
[16:30] <diddledan> mustn't forget the bsc
[16:30] <zmoylan-pi> very important
[16:31] <daftykins> apologies :>
[16:39] <diddledan> I wonder how accurate that kids behaviour would be
[16:39] <diddledan> it's certainly a good idea to keep kids occupied. I just not sure they'll respond like that
[16:47] <daftykins> now you need a soundproof room to put them in
[16:47] <diddledan> chromebook
[16:48] <diddledan> ok, pixiebook
[16:48] <daftykins> cheap? well no, no...
[16:49] <zmoylan-pi> only one question, can it run linux?
[16:50] <diddledan> wat. a browser only laptop with 16GB of RAM?!
[16:51] <zmoylan-pi> well the browser is chrome...
[16:51] <diddledan> point
[16:52] <zmoylan-pi> which has an appetite for ram that makes zombies look vegan...
[16:56] <ahayzen> "the snap team is working with us" ... then you realise they are talking about snapchat not snappy :')
[16:58] <diddledan> 1000$ for a tablet
[16:58] <diddledan> that's as cheap as the new iphone
[16:58] <zmoylan-pi> well you wouldn't want your phone to feel left out
[17:01] <diddledan> yup, no headphone hole
[17:02] <zmoylan-pi> pay more get less
[17:03] <diddledan> dig at apple there
[17:04] <m0nkey_> diddledan: my new code is being pentested now. so far, it hasn't got in.
[17:04] <diddledan> \o/
[17:04] <zmoylan-pi> huzzah
[17:04] <m0nkey_> I also re-wrote the re-write :)
[17:05] <diddledan> hah
[17:05] <diddledan> metarewrite
[17:05] <daftykins> you see Austin, he loves coooooode
[17:05] <m0nkey_> https://pastebin.com/2WzeCSRT
[17:05] <m0nkey_> that's the new routine
[17:06] <m0nkey_> using open3
[17:06] <m0nkey_> the scan is on-going, but i haven't been penetrated yet
[17:06]  * diddledan penetrates m0nkey_
[17:08] <daftykins> what if her family aren't in the kitchen?
[17:09] <daftykins> ;D
[17:12]  * m0nkey_ sighs
[17:13] <m0nkey_> dear Amazon.ca, please ship my crap.
[17:14] <m0nkey_> I want my switch
[17:14] <daftykins> i think there are health and safety ethics against that
[17:14] <daftykins> heh you getting Zelda?
[17:14] <m0nkey_> lol
[17:14] <m0nkey_> not that kind of switch
[17:14] <daftykins> ah :>
[17:15] <m0nkey_> the switch i bought will serve a purpose
[17:15] <m0nkey_> and not look pretty on the tv table, unused.
[17:15] <m0nkey_> https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00I5W5EGA
[17:16] <daftykins> ah i've got one of those at a clients spare now, we had to move up to a 48 port for his house
[17:16] <daftykins> too many gadgets :)
[17:19] <m0nkey_> now you tell me :P
[17:20] <daftykins> :D
[17:20] <daftykins> in fact i still haven't vacuumed out the dust and considered a plan for it, ah well it might go in his London flat perhaps
[17:20] <daftykins> i'm flying out to his Spain pad and then checking out the London one from Monday next week!
[17:21] <daftykins> SW6 if anyone lurks there :>
[17:21] <daftykins> arsenip: ooh are you still in the area?
[17:28] <zmoylan-pi> pssst.... don't use ryanair ;-)
[17:35] <daftykins> heh client and his wife and kid were booked on Monarch until Monday...
[17:38] <m0nkey_> fun, we monitor their network devices
[17:38] <m0nkey_> lets look at the network utilization trend for the last month :)
[17:39] <daftykins> o rry
[17:40] <m0nkey_> oh yes, there is a drop of traffic
[17:45] <m0nkey_> daftykins: PM? :)
[17:45] <daftykins> sure
[18:42] <daftykins> he... he showed me things D:
[19:04] <m0nkey_> lol
[19:05] <daftykins> :>
[19:05] <m0nkey_> don't say that. diddledan will be unhappy
[19:05] <daftykins> that's true, bit jelly he will be
[19:05] <m0nkey_> btw, confirmed, the remote code execution bug has been fixed. changes pushed to prod. no more gaping hole.
[19:06] <daftykins> vewy gewd, i thought you were unpenetrated earlier, though
[19:06] <m0nkey_> I was penetrated yesterday
[19:07] <m0nkey_> then i patched the hole
[19:07] <daftykins> ah right
[19:07] <m0nkey_> thankfully it was during a security scan that revealed it, not some black hat.
[19:07] <daftykins> yet ;D
[19:08]  * diddledan penetrates m0nkey_ again
[19:09] <zmoylan-pi> thars a hole in server dear liza, dear liza...
[19:09] <daftykins> i've asked if i can go and check out my Dad's companies server, as apparently the excuse for why windows updates has been turned off on the domain for 2 years was "the disk was full"
[19:10] <daftykins> *had
[19:10] <zmoylan-pi> lets see a virus copy itself on there then!
[19:10] <daftykins> pls viruses are so 90s
[19:11] <m0nkey_> lol
[19:11] <m0nkey_> anyway, going home time
[19:11] <m0nkey_> talk later
[19:11]  * zmoylan-pi leaves 8" floppy outside daftykins gaff...
[19:11] <daftykins> m0nkey_: \o
[19:11] <daftykins> zmoylan-pi: the drunks will get your floppy on the next wander by
[19:12] <zmoylan-pi> that'll wipe off
[19:12] <zmoylan-pi> unless they've been drinking tape head cleaner again
[22:34] <m0nkey_> my netgear switch has shipped
[22:34] <m0nkey_> i should see it tomorrow
[22:34] <daftykins> \o/


[16:00] <freakynl> Hi, would cloud-init be a good choice to use for configuring an ova/ovf template after deployment? It won't be running on public clouds. The default config seems to want to pull information from the default gw which seems very amazon EC2 like
[16:05] <smoser> freakynl, well,. it will look to the ec2 metadata service currently if it didnt find any ovf data.
[16:06] <smoser> but if you have an ovf iso transport cdrom attached, it should use that.
[16:15] <freakynl> smoser: Thanks for the info. Was more hoping of a yes this is the right tool or no you should look elsewhere kind of answer before diving in the docs :)
[16:16] <smoser> freakynl, yes!
[16:16] <smoser> that better ?
[16:32] <freakynl> smoser: hell yea :) thanks
[19:53] <larsks> harlowja: around?
[19:54] <larsks> smoser: cloudinit/net/sysconfig.py seems to be broken, particularly right here: https://github.com/cloud-init/cloud-init/blob/master/cloudinit/net/sysconfig.py#L286
[19:54] <larsks> At that point, "iface" is just a dict, and has no "children" attribute, so it all blows up.
[19:57] <smoser> :(
[19:57] <larsks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1665441
[19:57] <smoser> do you have network config that showed this ?
[19:58] <larsks> I do, although I am pretty sure that any network config would show this...I don't see how you would get anything other than a dict at this point.
[19:58] <larsks> But I will update the bug with my network_data.json.
[19:59] <smoser> must of regressed. i am surprised harlowja woudlnt have cried.
[20:05] <rharper> looks like a nice candidate for integration tests
[20:08] <larsks> rharper: looks like a nice candidate for *unit* tests, even, I think.
[20:08] <rharper> oh, that too
[20:08] <rharper> there are sysconfig unittests
[20:08] <larsks> rharper: I am pretty sure this stems from someone writing "iface" when they meant "iface_cfg".
[20:08] <rharper> so that might be an easy way to expose it
[20:08] <rharper> y
[20:09] <larsks> With a couple small fixes I have it not failing and generating a semi-valid config file, although it appears to be missing an ip address.
[20:13] <larsks> Oh hey, actually I think that fixed it.  It just generates more alias configurations than I expected.
[21:04] <harlowja> who what


[00:00] <Azelphur> penguin42: well I'm obviously on the extreme end of the cheap, http://bit.ly/j2onHH
[00:00] <Azelphur> being so close to a big farm
[00:00] <penguin42> oh cool, now we have the ICBM location
[00:01] <Azelphur> oshi- :p
[00:02] <hamitron> how much was a node using again?
[00:02] <penguin42> hamitron: about 22ow
[00:02] <Azelphur> 220ish
[00:02] <hamitron> k
[00:02] <Azelphur> penguin42: I've clocked up the GPU's and underclocked the memory too
[00:02] <Azelphur> so they are running at 960/320 instead of the stock 850/1200
[00:03] <hamitron> my main complaint with the 5870.... don't have a crossfire board to use them in
[00:03] <hamitron> :D
[00:03] <Azelphur> hehe
[00:03] <Azelphur> hamitron: my main pc is tri sli ready :)
[00:04] <Azelphur> for when nvidia wakes up and fixes the Linux drivers
[00:04] <hamitron> my pc prob cost only a little more than your motherboard
[00:04] <hamitron> ;)
[00:04] <Azelphur> then I'll up to 5 or 6 monitors and SLI
[00:04] <hamitron> <-- Mr Cheap
[00:04] <Azelphur> hamitron: haha, E-Dracon on my channel calls my motherboard the "OH MY GOD TOO MANY SLOTS" motherboard
[00:04] <shauno> I'm not sure I'd put my money behind nvidia not creating weak drivers ;)
[00:05] <Azelphur> shauno: hense why I've still got an 8800GT in the machine
[00:05] <Azelphur> instead of 3 GTX570's
[00:05] <hamitron> weak drivers?
[00:05] <Azelphur> shauno: when they fix up multi display and multi monitor SLI in Linux
[00:06] <Azelphur> I'd love to start tri screen gaming in wine :)
[00:06] <Azelphur> wine can handle it, I've done it before in a somewhat uglyhack way
[00:06] <hamitron> and you can sell me your spare screen? ;)
[00:06] <Azelphur> hamitron: spare? I'd have to buy an extra monitor to account for the loss of one of my IRC monitors :p
[00:06] <hamitron> or give if you make millions on bitcoin \o/
[00:06] <Azelphur> I'd go up to 5 or maybe 6 monitors
[00:06] <hamitron> haha
[00:07] <hamitron> you will need a circular desk, with a lift from the room downstairs to get inside
[00:07] <Azelphur> hamitron: that's my what to build when I get rich thing
[00:07] <shauno> naw, 2x3
[00:08] <hamitron> would it not be cheaper to have some sort of helmet with virtual reality?
[00:08] <hamitron> :/
[00:08] <Azelphur> hamitron: haha, maybe :P
[00:08] <shauno> it'd be cheaper just to buy decent-sized monitors in the first place :)
[00:08] <Azelphur> but the resolution would need to be good
[00:08] <hamitron> haha
[00:08] <Azelphur> shauno: it's resolution I crave tbh
[00:09] <Azelphur> those 2560x1600 displays...shiny :o
[00:09] <hamitron> he only wants a higher resolution, so my internet struggles to download his screenshits ;)
[00:09] <hamitron> screenshots*
[00:09] <Azelphur> hamitron: it's true, my screenshits are epic.
[00:09] <hamitron> :D
[00:10] <Azelphur> hamitron: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/2010-05-10-182013_7680x1200_scrot.png here you go :D
[00:10] <hamitron> does that have anything useful on it? ;/
[00:10] <Azelphur> nope lol
[00:11]  * hamitron sighs
[00:13] <shauno> that screenshot really makes it look like a game of willy-waving, tbh
[00:22] <shauno> this is really starting to bug me .. I can't find my x-plane disks anywhere
[00:22] <shauno> never understood why people are so attached to physical media.  it only ends up like this :/
[00:28] <hamitron> shauno: I have all mine boxed
[00:28] <hamitron> ;)
[00:28] <hamitron> then a cd wallet with copies
[00:28] <hamitron> DRM stops me having working copies of some :/
[00:30] <shauno> yeah, I've struggled making copies of these too
[00:30] <shauno> well, I only tried twice before I decided DL dvds were too expensive
[00:31] <hamitron> lucky for me, I don't have many new games
[00:33] <shauno> old games tend to be easier because they tend to be small & simple enough to just find a new copy online
[00:34] <shauno> so, I've found dvds labelled 2, 3, 5 & 6.  ugh.
[00:34] <hamitron> :)
[00:34] <hamitron> cdr are cheap too
[00:34] <hamitron> ;)
[00:34] <hamitron> "cdr, wtf are them?"
[00:34] <hamitron> :D
[00:35] <shauno> I don't tend to put them on cdr either.  if I found them, I can find them again
[00:35]  * hamitron is a sucker for the cereal box games
[00:36] <shauno> it's been a loooong time since I had anything properly boxed
[00:37] <shauno> I keep finding manuals of old games diving around my office.  that doesn't happen anymore.  you're lucky if you get a pdf on the cd :/  usually, just a link to publish.com/support/
[00:39] <shauno> well, found disk 4.  sadly I knew disk 1 wasn't going to be with them, because you need disk 1 to play it
[01:14] <ging> does anyone know how to renew a dynamic ipv6 ip?
[01:16] <shauno> do you know how it was assigned in the first place?
[01:18] <shauno> I mean, are you using dhcpv6, or radv, or ..?
[01:50] <ging> radvd
[01:50] <shauno> most chances you simply don't then.  the IP isn't really dynamic, it's generated
[01:52] <shauno> the local part (last 4 segments) of the address is your mac address, with some padding
[01:54] <shauno> hah ..
[01:54] <shauno> "Finally, you need 2 posts (replies to existing threads) in order to be allowed to start a new topic. This is a security feature to prevent automatic spamming."
[01:54] <shauno> some <expletive>ing support that is
[02:19] <shauno> hamitron: this'd make you cry.  a game that's 75Gb for a full install :p
[02:19] <hamitron> download only? ;)
[02:20] <shauno> hah, nah .. same one I was diving for dvds for
[02:20] <hamitron> what game?
[02:20] <hamitron> tbh, I ahve no problem, if I have disks
[02:20] <hamitron> apart from having to clear junk off my hdd each time
[02:20] <hamitron> ;)
[02:21] <hamitron> my internet would die for a month, if I had to download that :/
[02:21] <shauno> x-plane, a flight sim.  it's about 600Mb + scenery.  looooots and lots of scenery
[02:21] <shauno> (lots and lots of optional scenery, I should add)
[02:25] <hamitron> shauno: is it good?
[02:25] <hamitron> just looking
[02:25] <hamitron> :)
[02:25] <shauno> it's not half bad.  I think I still prefered msfs, but this runs on windows/osx/linux natively
[02:29] <hamitron> I bought Fly! years ago, but never had a comp to run it at the time
[02:47] <shauno> now there's a fun jump; linux 3.0-rc1 is out
[02:47] <shauno> well, not out, branched
[02:47] <shauno> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=summary
[02:52] <hamitron> what are the planned changes?
[02:54] <shauno> *shrugs* a bigger number?
[02:56] <shauno> https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/5/29/204 apparently, but it's groaning atm
[02:57] <ging> where might i find info about hardware errors other than dmesg ?
[03:02] <hamitron> Alan Cox has said about removing some old drivers :-o
[03:02] <hamitron> not confirmed, just a rumour
[03:02] <hamitron> ;)
[03:03]  * hamitron looks at his ISA slots
[04:30] <shauno> irc is a bit boring at 4am.  the yanks are slacking!
[04:40] <Pendulum> shauno: it's because it's a holiday here and a holiday that people actually do stuff for and with morning parades so people get up relatively early
[04:41] <shauno> that's no excuse :/  I have to do things tomorrow too
[04:43] <Pendulum> maybe we're just boring people too :P
[04:44] <shauno> I accidentally ended up in a parade over there.  it was a whole lot less fun than watching
[04:44] <Pendulum> haha
[04:44] <Pendulum> what holiday?
[04:45] <shauno> labor day
[04:45] <shauno> the other big one :)
[04:45] <Pendulum> *snort*
[04:45] <Pendulum> no parade in my town on labour day :P
[04:45] <Pendulum> although I've done a fair bit of parade marching myself (all Memorial Day ones) and I do tend to agree that it's less fun. Especially when it's 25C and you're in a wool uniform
[04:46] <shauno> labor day's the one at the other end of summer, right?
[04:46] <Pendulum> yes
[04:46] <Pendulum> most people just have BBQs for that one
[04:46] <Pendulum> dunno if NYC has a parade because I always left the city for the weekend
[04:46] <shauno> I lived in a small town that was a honeytrap for rich tourists on boats from chicago
[04:47] <Pendulum> ah, okay
[04:47] <shauno> so they used any excuse they could to pull people into main street
[04:47] <Pendulum> right
[04:47] <Pendulum> like Disney, but you had to live there :P
[04:47] <ball> shauno: Are you on the lake then?
[04:47] <shauno> ball: not anymore, but yeah
[04:47] <ball> shauno: Where are you now then?
[04:47] <shauno> ireland :)
[04:48] <ball> I was talking to some customers today who had recently come back from Ireland
[04:48] <ball> I've only been there once but I liked it.
[04:48] <shauno> I've only been here once, but I haven't managed to leave yet :/
[04:49] <shauno> I used to live http://goo.gl/maps/l1yS
[04:49] <shauno> until my mother decided she wanted to move to alaska, and I decided it sounded like a good time to leave home
[04:50] <Pendulum> Alaska is supposedly quite nice in summer
[04:50] <Pendulum> but, yeah, not sure I'd want to live there
[04:50] <shauno> oh it looks amazing.  I really want to visit one day
[04:50] <shauno> but yeah.  winter?  michigan was bad enough for me
[04:50] <Pendulum> my parents went to Alaska last summer. Drove from Connecticut
[04:51] <Pendulum> their photos are stunning
[04:51] <Pendulum> but when I go I am so not driving cross-country
[04:51] <shauno> mom did that.  they got some nice photos in montana.  and the ferry.
[04:51] <shauno> other than that, there really is a whole lot of SFA in the middle
[04:53] <shauno> I really didn't like driving in the states because of that.  anything worth seeing is interspersed with 12+ hours (sometimes days) of staring at cruise control, trying not to fall asleep
[04:53] <Pendulum> heh
[04:53] <Pendulum> it's not so bad if you're on the east coast
[04:54] <ball> shauno: Illinois is cold enough.
[04:54] <shauno> I fell asleep the first time I drove to indiana :/  that was a pretty harsh lesson
[04:55] <shauno> (not a dramatic one, just the gut-wrenching moment when you hit a soft shoulder at 80mph)
[04:55]  * ball nods
[04:55] <shauno> crap way to wake up
[04:58] <ball> At least I don't have to shovel snow for a few months yet.
[04:58] <shauno> doesn't happen here :)  drive 5 hours, hit the edge and turn around :)
[05:03] <ball> btw.  What is "bike shedding"?
[05:04] <shauno> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bikeshedding
[05:05] <shauno> never heard the term before either, but if you're seeing it where I think you are, the context looks about right
[05:05] <ball> That's funny.  I've been using BSD for years and never heard that until I started listening to the Ubuntu UK podcast.
[07:38] <brianb_> hi
[07:40] <brianb_> have a question re compiling  kernel: Question) if you wanted to compile a newer version kernel what version does the GCC have to be i.e. does it have to be the latest version?
[09:06] <popey> http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/30/asus-brings-out-extra-skinny-eee-pc-x101-running-meego-hands-on/
[09:06] <nigelb> Morning folks
[09:07] <popey> lo
[09:11] <dwatkins> mornin all
[09:12]  * ball waves
[09:14] <MartijnVdS> \o
[10:18] <awilkins> Bah, bank holiday and I have a lovely bank holiday cold.
[10:20] <dwatkins> bah, awilkins
[10:32] <daubers> Morning
[10:40] <daubers> nom nom nom homemade bread
[10:41] <awilkins> Sounds good. Might get the breadmaker out and do some foccacia
[10:42] <awilkins> With salt and rosemary sprinkles, natch
[10:47] <daubers> awilkins: I handmade this for a change :)
[10:56]  * daubers potters into town
[11:13] <kvarley> Can anybody recommend a usb headset? Looking for one which is likely to work with Ubuntu - I'm going for USB since I've never had any luck with the audio jack based ones before
[11:14] <awilkins> Someone here blogs about his Logitech USB 250 just working .. http://nozell.com/blog/2006/09/13/logitech-usb-headset-ubuntulinux/
[11:17] <awilkins> What I need is an adaptor for the RJ11 port on a Cisco VoIP phone...
[11:17] <awilkins> .. looks like the only way to get one is to buy a freaking crimper and make one yourself
[11:19] <awilkins> Hmm. Or go to your friendly neighbourhood geek lab for tools ..
[11:19] <kvarley> awilkins: I just tested an audio jack based mic and it worked so might get the sennheiser one I wanted =) thanks for the link
[11:19] <awilkins> kvarley, Excellent, glad your drivers are working straight
[11:20] <kvarley> awilkins: The never used to so just shows how Ubuntu is more awesome than ever :)
[11:22] <awilkins> kvarley, It just confirms to me that driver problems are the number one annoyance to the average person
[11:29] <oimon> which is the best choice for a simple and stable video editor?
[11:29] <oimon> openshot? pitivi?
[11:30] <awilkins> Only one I've used is Kino
[11:30] <ormiret> oimon: I use kdenlive most of the time
[11:30] <awilkins> Mostly because it drives DV cameras via the firewire port
[11:31] <oimon> i used kino to extract the dv files but it was quite crashy
[11:33] <oimon> hmmm just noticed that pitivi is already installed on my lucid box
[11:36] <oimon> only seems to export in theora format
[11:36] <gord> yup
[11:37] <oimon> sucks :(
[11:39] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[11:40] <awilkins> My pitivi seems to support Dirac and VP8 also
[11:41] <oimon> awilkins: i noticed dirac but i don't recognise that format
[11:41] <awilkins> And whatever ffmpeg container formats I have installed
[11:41] <oimon> trying openshot now
[11:41] <awilkins> Try changing the container, they have their own codecs
[11:42] <awilkins> Dirac is a wavelet codec developed by the BBC
[11:42] <awilkins> It's not especially popular, but it is patent free and open source
[11:42] <oimon> awilkins: doh i didn't notice the container changes things
[11:42] <awilkins> I saw a reasonably impressive encode of Big Buck Bunny in Dirac
[11:43] <awilkins> oimon, It wasn't immediately obvious, was it
[11:44] <oimon> nope, and i rarely edit video on ubuntu since i usually just take clips on my phone
[11:44] <oimon> thought i would save some 10 yr old video from the digital cassettes i have lying around
[11:44] <oimon> i wonder what formats will be useful in future
[11:47] <MartijnVdS> oimon: mpeg (2,4), jpeg, png are good guesses for long-term formats
[11:48] <MartijnVdS> Lots of inertia
[11:48] <oimon> ok thx
[11:48] <MartijnVdS> oimon: and if you want to be sure (and have disk space to burn) also a lossless format (png, flac, don't know one for video :)
[11:48] <awilkins> I'd probably go with MPEG4, most things support it now, even a lot of consumer DVD players
[11:48] <oimon> anyone notice a tearing/ horizontal lines effect after importing from dv cameras? seen it a lot on win and linux
[11:49] <awilkins> Interlace
[11:49] <awilkins> Like a comb?
[11:49] <MartijnVdS> oimon: that's interlaced
[11:49] <MartijnVdS> oimon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlaced_video
[11:49] <MartijnVdS> you'll have to deinterlace, or use interlaced formats all the way through (so your TV can properly deinterlace)
[11:52] <oimon> MartijnVdS: like this http://ubuntuone.com/p/wR0/
[11:52] <oimon> that's an extreme case
[11:52] <MartijnVdS> oimon: is that during horizontal movement?
[11:53] <awilkins> Definitely interlace
[11:53] <MartijnVdS> it looks like some deinterlacing is being done, but the wrong algorithm was chosen
[11:53] <oimon> yes
[11:53] <MartijnVdS> http://www.100fps.com/
[11:54] <MartijnVdS> oimon: read that page :)
[11:54] <gord> for the bitcoin fans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcn8cNCk9hM
[11:55] <awilkins> Total Che Guevara wannabe beard....
[11:55] <MartijnVdS> gord: is that you in the video?>
[11:57] <gord> i am not bitcoin rich :P
[11:57] <gord> or have a turtles bandana
[11:57]  * awilkins has 0.02 bitcoins, he thinks
[11:57] <MartijnVdS> awilkins: hah, me too
[11:57] <MartijnVdS> awilkins: from the faucet?
[11:57] <awilkins> Yup, from the faucet
[12:03] <awilkins> Germany are shutting all their nuke plants by 2022. We're either all i) doomed or ii) saved
[12:04] <awilkins> i) Because demands to follow suit from other democratic nations will create an enormous demand for more fossil fuels in electricity
[12:05] <awilkins> ii) Because people will devote more effort to actually fixing the energy problem (hopefully with research into fusion)
[12:06] <oimon> ok after exporting from the video editor, it seems to have been deinterlaced and the effect is minimal
[12:06] <gord> iii) be fine because i don't live in germany
[12:07]  * jacobw thinks ii)
[12:07] <jacobw> and iii)
[12:16] <gord> the great thing about working in an online company is that you can log in during your bank holidays just to look at all the poor people who live in different countries having to work ;)
[13:17] <jacobw> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/05/30/0237259/Linus-Renames-2640-Kernel-To-Linux-30-Announces-Release-Candidate
[13:21] <MartijnVdS> Love the release email
[13:27] <nperry> !minecraft
[13:28] <nperry> :<
[13:29]  * jacobw is surprised we don't have a factoid for minecraft
[13:33] <MartijnVdS> Don't feed the addiciton
[13:39] <dutchie> nperry: #ubuntu-uk-minecraft :)
[15:57] <czajkowski> Aloha
[16:07] <daubers> o/
[16:07]  * daubers wonders where he put the spray paint
[16:27] <daubers> smells like spray paint in that room now
[16:27] <daubers> smells like pink elephants
[16:30] <penguin42> do pink elephants smell different from grey ones?
[16:31] <penguin42> daubers: Like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBnyM1l8B8o&playnext=1&list=PLA40981174343B8D3
[16:32] <daubers> penguin42: Maybe not quite like that...
[17:08] <MartijnVdS> daubers: When will you decide on library/geeknic date? :)
[17:09] <daubers> MartijnVdS: Ooooh... good point. Should do that this evening really
[17:09] <MartijnVdS> daubers: (so I can book my ticket/hotel/etc. :))
[17:09] <MartijnVdS> daubers: sounds like a good time to decide :)
[17:12] <daubers> I'll give it to late this evening and then close it. Looks like Sat 23rd July will be best at the minute :)
[17:13] <dutchie> ooh, no
[17:13]  * dutchie will be in torquay :(
[17:13]  * dutchie quickly votes on doodle
[17:13] <daubers> Heh
[17:16] <dutchie> daubers: bump on the ML too?
[17:16] <daubers> dutchie: Good idea
[17:17] <daubers> Sent
[17:51] <brianb_> have a question re compiling  kernel: Question) if you wanted to compile a newer version kernel what version does the GCC have to be i.e. does it have to be the latest version?
[17:53] <MartijnVdS> brianb_: Follow this guide if you really want to compile your own kernels: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[17:54]  * DJones checks the cricket score and finds that England have beaten Sri Lanka after taking 8 wickets in an hour, didn't expect that, thought it was an easy draw after both sides batting
[17:55] <penguin42> brianb_: Normally no
[17:56] <penguin42> brianb_: Normally the kernel works with a reasonable range of gcc's, but every so often there is a gcc bug found where the kernel guys just give up on it
[18:26] <brianb_> thanks penguin42
[20:06] <ando> Has ubuntu updated network manager recentkly?
[20:07] <ando> I just turned on my PC after an update and now my network settings have all changed and as far as I can tell the network settings dialog is different
[20:08] <ando> And very buggy... and nmapplet is no longer installed :(
[20:39] <Azelphur> popey: was it you that had the nice power usage graphs for your house?
[20:46] <jacobw> hmm, nm-applet should be updated between releases should it?
[20:50] <shauno> doesn't look like it; network-manager-gnome is in natty, but not natty-updates
[20:50] <shauno> (and the last entry in the changelog is 23 march)
[20:51] <popey> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=network-manager-gnome
[20:52] <diplo> Evening all
[20:52] <popey> Azelphur: i do have a power graph, yes
[20:52] <Azelphur> popey: cool, what did you use to do it / how much does it cost?
[20:52] <shauno> so he shouldn't be getting a new one unless he's subscribed to oneiric.
[20:53] <popey> i have a currentcost
[20:53] <popey> and a usb cable
[20:53] <popey> http://www.currentcost.com/where-to-buy.html
[20:55] <Azelphur> popey: ty :)
[20:55] <diplo> Any one tried building Syncany successfully ?
[20:56] <czajkowski> evening lovelies
[20:56] <AlanBell> o/
[21:01] <jacobw> yeah, perhaps he's accidentally dist-upgraded
[21:02] <jacobw> 'all watched over by machines of loving grace' is on bbc2 now
[21:02] <jacobw> it should be anyway, i've not actually tuned in yet..
[21:04] <popey> i note he calls is nmapplet, it's nm-applet
[21:05] <jacobw> i looked that up before i said anything, i assumed it was a typo on his part.
[21:49] <ali1234> what software is there for making server graphs besides mrtg and cacti, both of which are horribly over engineered and way too difficult to set up?
[22:30] <Laney> rrdtool is often used to generate the graphs
[22:33] <ali1234> i'm writing my own rrdtool scripts now
[22:33] <ali1234> it seems much easier than using cacti
[23:46] <ali1234> well according to rrdtool my cpu is at "10 m" degrees C


[01:54] <lov255> Hello
[01:54]  * lov255 is a ubuntu noob
[01:55] <lov255> anyone here?
[02:43] <highvoltage> stgraber: went for a long walk with mgariepy tonight
[02:48] <stgraber> highvoltage: cool
[17:29] <dgroos> Hey All -- meeting in 2.5 hours?
[18:05] <highvoltage> dgroos: yep
[18:09]  * bencrisford does the math...  So thats 19.00 UTC? :D
[18:10] <bencrisford> highvoltage, ^
[18:14] <highvoltage> bencrisford: yep!
[18:16] <dgroos> highvoltage: still looking for agenda additions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Edubuntu/Meetings/Agenda ?
[18:19] <highvoltage> dgroos: not actively :) but feel free to add!
[18:19] <dgroos> will do!
[18:28] <dgroos> done!
[19:59] <highvoltage> Edubuntu meeting time! (sorry I lost track of time!)
[20:00] <bencrisford> highvoltage, meeting time? :)
[20:00] <highvoltage> yep
[20:00] <dgroos> see you in #ubuntu-meeting
[21:36] <alkisg> highvoltage: do we have some ability to add factoids here? e.g. !learn setup-ltsp as https://wiki.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/installLTSPlucid ?
[21:38] <alkisg> !pastebin
[21:40] <alkisg> !setup-ltsp is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/installLTSPlucid
[21:40] <alkisg> "Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops.  Thank you for your attention to detail"
[21:55] <dgroos> alkisg: that's a great idea.  Also, we ought to have an index page for a simple list of these factoids.
[21:55] <dgroos> !index
[21:55] <dgroos> see.  hmmph!
[21:55] <alkisg> dgroos: http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[21:56] <alkisg> But most facts are common to all ubuntu channels, not just edubuntu, we need to request in #ubuntu-ops which facts we want just for #edubuntu
[21:56] <dgroos> got it and they work on all ubuntu-related sites?
[21:56] <dgroos> yes :)
[21:57] <dgroos> maybe a link to that page would be helpful to have on the intro note that appears when one enters this channel.  Maybe.
[21:59] <dgroos> Yea, and anyway, how do you get that passive structure: "• dgroos things that..."? :)
[22:00] <dgroos> just doing the option-8 thing or is it a command?
[23:07] <highvoltage> alkisg: we have a bot but she's asleep. I actually got some nice hosting again last week, so I'll put her revival on my todo list :)
[23:07] <highvoltage> ah, ubottu is here. cool :)
[23:07] <alkisg> Ah, that'd be much easier :)
[23:08] <alkisg> But I think you have the rights to teach ubottu, right?
[23:08] <alkisg> I.e. add edubuntu-specific facts to it...


[11:00] <rbasak> krytarik: Thanks! I might have been given some permissions at some point but I have no idea how to use them. Any chance you could tell me what to type? :)
[16:27] <krytarik> rbasak: Well, I've since come to realize the channel is still set -t, which means anybody even without being an op can edit its topic - but I guess it wouldn't hurt to prepare ubottu's access to it for a time where this might not be the case anymore, in which case the command to run for this should be like "/msg ChanServ flags #ubuntu-devel ubottu +t"
[16:39] <rbasak> Thanks, but...
[16:39] <rbasak> -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.libera.chat)- You are not allowed to set +t on ubottu in #ubuntu-devel.
[16:42] <tomreyn> that'll be fmode
[16:43] <krytarik> rbasak: Huh, that's surprising since you definitely got +f on yourself there, which means you should be able to modify flags on it.. :o
[16:43] <tomreyn> uh fmode doesn't exist, ignore me.
[16:45] <tomreyn> set #ubuntu MLOCK
[16:46] <krytarik> rbasak: Waiting for the network staffer among us in the form of Unit193 might be an option here. >_<
[17:04] <rbasak> Sure. No hurry :)
[17:26] <krytarik> rbasak: At a hunch we could try "/msg ChanServ flags #ubuntu-devel ubottu -*+eort" though (the idea here being that it's currently set to a template, which may need removed from it first)
[20:39] <Eickmeyer> invitado just ended up being a novice user and didn't read the channel topic, and legitimately needed help exiting vim and knowing how to navigate IRC.
[20:43] <krytarik> But tbh, not the most intelligent behavior as a novice user to join the channel with two connections and starting to flood in a foreign language.. >_<
[20:45] <Eickmeyer> 100% agreed, and they were definitely on their way to a ban before I told them to read /topic. At that point, they calmed down REAL quick.
[20:45] <krytarik> Yes, I already had the proper command typed out..  XD
[22:57] <Unit193> krytarik: Updated the template, and now [18:57:07] ChanServ(ChanServ@services.libera.chat): Flags +t were set on ubottu in #ubuntu-devel.
[23:00] <krytarik> Unit193: Uhm, but now Drone is off the template instead.. XD


[15:57] <r3> ok I don't know if this is the correct place but here I go. I need help.  i recently installed lubuntu on my  computer, and most of the time i try to watch a video i can't  and it tells me to install a plug .. I've tried doing this but im unable to do so, can someone please help me with this?
[16:03] <skellat> r3: It would likely be best to take that question to #lubuntu as they handle Lubuntu support questions there
[16:08] <r3> ok thanks


[15:58] <roman_> Hello MOTUs, I would like to continue the discussion https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/02/16/%23ubuntu-motu.html 15:40-16:24.
[15:59] <roman_> Most important parts from last discussion: I try to get a package included in Ubuntu, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1542258
[16:00] <roman_> Last time package was not reviewed yet. Now it is included in Debian already. Current version V0.0.3-1 on Debian has a packaging bug, I'm currently uploading to be fixed.
[16:00] <roman_> Apart from that, there is a native Ubuntu Xenial package build available on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1542258
[16:02] <roman_> I'm not sure if it is better to add the package to Ubuntu using the stuff from Launchpad or instead use native package from LP to build non-native package for Debian and then get the Debian package included in Ubuntu (perhaps overlaying it with some additional patches for the Debian2Ubuntu transition).
[16:17] <roman_> Sorry, got a call and have to sign out now. Will visit the chatlog later on, so no answers will be lost.
[16:18] <teward> correct me if i'm wrong but isn't it too late to include in Xenial?
[16:18] <teward> (MOTUs: that was directed at you)
[22:21] <Unit193> Are there any more backporters apart from Mica?


[06:35]  * yofel makes his way to Brno - will probably arrive around 4 PM
[08:56] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:58] <Riddell> morning lordievader, you're missing a great akademy
[08:58] <Riddell> but there's still time to jump on a bike and cycle over here
[09:00] <lordievader> It was it Brno right? I think I'm past Germany when it ends :P
[09:03] <lordievader> Riddell: How is it, having a good time?
[09:04] <Riddell> inspiring :)
[10:19] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:31] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: where are you
[12:44] <Riddell> anyone know if jos is alive?
[13:08] <kdeuser56> Riddell, shadeslayer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1362752
[13:25] <shadeslayer> kdeuser56: known issue
[13:25] <shadeslayer> we're working on it
[13:25] <kdeuser56> shadeslayer: i know, I have posted a patch, look at the link
[13:26] <shadeslayer> kdeuser56: that's not completely right I think
[13:26] <shadeslayer> it needs logging and stuff
[13:26] <shadeslayer> needs properly chrooting
[13:26] <shadeslayer> see the code around for kdmrc and other stuff
[13:26] <kdeuser56> hm ... wait I'll look again at how gdm does it
[13:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: in Ivan's talk
[13:27] <shadeslayer> Room 2
[13:27] <shadeslayer> kdeuser56: setting minum uid is wrong btw
[13:28] <kdeuser56> shadeslayer: okay ... I thought I'd keep it because you set it also in the 15autologin script and since the config file does not exist to my knowledge on a freshly installed system
[13:28] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw autologin won't without session I think
[13:28] <shadeslayer> kdeuser56: that's because the live session has a uid of 999
[13:29] <kdeuser56> shadeslayer: ah ok
[13:29] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: because the sddm state hasn't been written to the install
[13:29] <shadeslayer> so sddm has no clue about which session to start
[13:30] <kdeuser56> shadeslayer: so I should leave session?
[13:31] <kdeuser56> shadeslayer: hm ... gdm autologin does not log anything if I understand that right
[13:32] <kdeuser56> shadeslayer: and I have done it like gdm
[13:32] <shadeslayer> kdeuser56: yes
[13:32] <kdeuser56> shadeslayer: so you want logging?
[13:33] <shadeslayer> yes
[13:33] <shadeslayer> afk for a bit
[13:35] <kdeuser56> shadeslayer: hm ... does $log work without chrooting?
[13:35] <kdeuser56> shadeslayer: I don't understand why we would want to chroot for insertings some text in a file ...
[13:40] <kdeuser56> shadeslayer: okay updated the diff, I'll test it later
[13:49] <kdeuser56> shadeslayer: afk too
[14:11] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: if session needs to be set that is a bug
[14:11] <apachelogger> in sddm
[14:11] <apachelogger> should be fixed
[14:11] <apachelogger> not worked around
[14:38] <shadeslayer> mm ok
[16:03] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I need ricola
[16:03] <shadeslayer> reeecola
[16:05] <BluesKaj> so what do you guys think of this, systemd seems almost anti-linux in nature according to this, http://boycottsystemd.org/
[16:06] <yofel> well, it kind of is. But thinking of the mess before that it's still an improvement..
[16:07] <apachelogger> riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiikola
[16:09] <apachelogger> Riddell: jooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonathan
[16:11] <BluesKaj> let's hope somebody comes up with a better one if what this site says is true
[16:11] <Riddell> apachelogger: haarald!
[16:12] <shadeslayer> haaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaalllllllddddd
[16:12] <shadeslayer> I need the riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiikola
[16:12] <shadeslayer> where are you
[16:13] <apachelogger> staking Riddell
[16:13] <apachelogger> stalking even
[16:14] <shadeslayer> Riddell: beware!
[16:16] <Riddell> gosh, I hope google doesn't tell you anything about me, I always keep my onlinne profile very private
[16:23] <apachelogger> Riddell: ping
[16:23] <apachelogger> yofel: ping
[16:23] <yofel> apachelogger: hm?
[16:27] <ScottK> Noskcaj: If you enjoyed reading that, try https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727708
[18:58] <Riddell> hi sgclark!
[18:58] <sgclark> hello!
[18:58] <yofel> ^^
[21:38]  * Riddell blogs https://blogs.kde.org/2014/09/06/akademy-day-1-photo-blog


[04:30] <jackbrown> Could anyone help me about this bug ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1006145
[04:30] <ubot2> Ubuntu bug 1006145 in linux (Ubuntu) "Logitech Mouse not recognised on boot in 12.04 & later" [Medium,Confirmed]


[07:56] <hateball> With the risk of re/cross-posting: I am trying to find if/when 23.04 will get a 6.x kernel but I am not having much luck.
[08:31] <arraybolt3> hateball: I believe it's intended to happen, but I don't know of any ETA, and last I heard there were problems trying to get it in, thus why we're still on 5.19.
[10:37] <hateball> arraybolt3: ok thank you! I was looking for some sort of roadmap for things like these, the Schedule in the topic does not detail it