[06:51] <evaluate> hello
[06:53] <evaluate> would anyone be interested in working on a perl implementation for the application indicator?
[13:02] <lamalex> Morning ya'll
[13:03] <nnnaji> good afternoon ;)
[13:07] <ion> that.
[13:13] <coz_> hey all
[13:16] <htorque> lamalex: hi, bug 693550 from yesterday is connected to bug 690461, so i guess its status is ok the way it is. :)
[13:17] <lamalex> htorque, ah ok
[13:17] <lamalex> cool
[13:17] <vish> lamalex: hey, can you update the gpm branch for the battery discharging bug? the one mterry rejected recently?
[13:18] <vish> lamalex: no rush, but reminding to add to your TODO ;)
[13:19] <lamalex> vish, yeah I'll try, I resubmitted but haven't heard back about what was wrong the second time
[13:20] <vish> cool..
[13:44] <lamalex> Does anyone know what the default gsettings backend is, and how to tell?
[13:44] <lamalex> I would assume dconf..
[13:44] <lamalex> but I'm not sure
[13:45] <lamalex> no it appears to be gconf
[13:45] <lamalex> wonder why
[13:49] <akshatj> lamalex, there is a service at startup that is used to migrate data from gconf to dconf
[13:50] <akshatj> so I assume it is dconf
[13:50] <lamalex> neither gconf-editor or dconf-editor look up to date
[13:50] <lamalex> what gives
[13:54] <lamalex> oh god. my ac adapter just stopped working.
[13:56] <akshatj> =-O
[14:06] <htorque> kenvandine: hello, would you know if custom indicators (not appindicators) are currently disabled for unity? it's showing up in the gnome-panel but not in unity's top panel.
[14:14] <cyphermox> Amaranth, turns out the COMPIZ_PREFIX workaround actually works on buildds, or at least on my PPA.
[14:14] <coz_> ok breakfast time  ,, be back in a bit
[14:14] <Amaranth> cyphermox: Yay, it's my build system hero ;)
[14:15] <cyphermox> Amaranth, I'll look at it again later to see if there is a cleaner way to do this, but for now it seems to work :)
[14:15] <cyphermox> plus I managed to find a way to install manpages for unity with cmake :D
[14:15] <cyphermox> (I'm new to cmake)
[14:18] <kenvandine> htorque, i don't think so
[14:18] <kenvandine> htorque, but i am not as in touch with unity as i am the rest of the indicator stack
[14:19] <cyphermox> htorque, which indicator is this? I'm curious :)
[14:20] <htorque> kenvandine, thanks
[14:21] <htorque> cyphermox, right now it's just a copy of datetime ;) i'd like to copy the cpu indicator from the gnome-system-monitor applet - can't live without it :P
[14:21] <cyphermox> ah ok
[14:24] <cyphermox> datetime does show up here, but I'm not sure if that's relevant to what you were saying
[14:29] <htorque> cyphermox, yes it shows up here too, but i think there's a hardcoded list in which order they show up. before the integration of the window buttons it was like (custom, appmenu, ..., system) and it did show up back then but now it doesn't.
[14:31] <htorque> cyphermox, at least it shows up in the gnome-panel, so i can start working on it :) it's a good way to avoid meeting relati
[14:31] <htorque> *relatives over the holidays :P
[14:37] <cyphermox> oh boy.
[14:38] <cyphermox> htorque, you got a point though, I recall reading about such a list. no idea where it is though . I'd suspect somewhere in gconf / gsettings
[14:41] <kenvandine> htorque, actually i think it might be hard coded in the unity panel
[14:41] <kenvandine> so it loads the indicators it has defined
[14:42] <kenvandine> which includes the renderer for appindicators
[14:42] <kenvandine> so any appindicators show up
[14:49] <htorque> kenvandine, yes, it's in services/panel-service.c but the list hasn't changed. at least now i know where to look. :-)
[15:02] <htorque> kenvandine, do indicators need a reboot to show up? i just rebooted and my indicator shows up - plus, it's no longer on the left side (it was the first indicator in earlier versions) :-)
[15:03] <lamalex> htorque, well the left side is a rediculous place for them so it makes sense it's not there now
[15:03] <lamalex> as for needed a reboot, sounds like a bug you should file
[15:05] <htorque> lamalex, thanks, will try to reproduce it and a file a bug then
[15:07] <lamalex> htorque, that drop point mockup is nice
[15:08] <htorque> thanks :)
[15:08] <htorque> just using already existing images ;)
[15:14] <lamalex> htorque, did you try using the launcher icon itself but with dropped opacity, so it looks ghostly in place
[15:14] <lamalex> might be neat
[15:24] <OmegaYear> The AMA on reddit was quite informative.
[15:24] <OmegaYear> I was surprised to find it there :)
[17:04] <nmarques> RAOF, I've ended fixing it without patching and adding some stuff to the build environment LDFLAGS :)
[17:05] <nmarques> RAOF, thanks for pointing me way.
[19:22] <API> hi, today I have updated Natty
[19:22] <API> and now I can't login with gdm
[19:22] <API> it seems that this is caused due a gnome-settings-daemon
[19:23] <API> and I think that this is caused calling gtk_window_add_filter
[19:23] <API> I noticed that gtk was updated today
[19:23] <API> has anyone tested that?
[19:23] <API> in which channel I should ask this?


[04:10] <d^_^b_> hellooooooooo
[10:00] <lupet> Hi, if installation of ubuntu touch failed to enter in recovery mode how is possible install?
[10:30] <mcphail> Is anyone else finding OTA8 really buggy? I've seen high battery drain and a couple of episodes of "demonic possession" where unity8 appears to be receiving repeated screen presses from an invisible finger. Didn't see this on OTA7
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: wich device mate?
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> pretty stable on bq 4.5 here mcphail
[10:32] <mcphail> yes - bq4.5
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[10:33] <mcphail> just had my phone dialer repeatedly dial 6's and 9's, hence the "demonic" bit
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: try a tail -f /var/log/syslog perhaps
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> see whats going on?
[10:34] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: nothing was noted. Seems like the system thought it was receiving normal input
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: or if nothing works, reset phone to defaults?
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> i had scope freezes on ota7
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> got fixxed on ota8 now
[10:34] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: I might need to reflash OTA7 if this persists
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: i would reflash to ota8
[10:35] <lotuspsychje> can do miracles sometimes
[10:36] <mcphail> maybe. I'm not a believer in "bad flashes". I think this is a genuine problem as someone else poster here about bad battery drain
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: how much time your battery flows?
[10:36] <mcphail> perhaps some input event is getting stuck and looping
[10:36] <lotuspsychje> ill keep an eye on it
[10:37] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: about 80% loss over the working day, rather than 20--30% as per OTA7
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> wow
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: heavy use? movie watching?
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> maybe related to specific apps?
[10:37] <mcphail> sitting idle in my pocket bar one 10 minute call
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> thats extreme mate
[10:39] <popey> mcphail, my e4.5 has dropped from 100 to 77% in 20 hours
[10:39] <popey> it's doing nothing but getting notifications
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> popey: yeah i think pretty stable for me like that also
[10:40] <mcphail> popey: aah. Adds weight to the theory that an input event is looping
[10:40] <popey> my rc-proposed one is 97% since being 100% at 4pm yesterday
[10:40] <lotuspsychje> nexus7 also stable on devel-proposed here
[10:41] <mcphail> I'll give it a couple of days and see if it calms down
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: i would try ota8 reflash to defaults
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> see if it persists
[10:42] <mcphail> I can't risk a flash for a couple of days as I'm on call. Might reflash after that
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> ok
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: /var/log/dmesg show anything usefull?
[10:53] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: I haven't seen anything. But I haven't been able to get a terminal open during an "event" as I can't switch away from the foregrounded app and have to reboot
[10:53] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: checking logs post-hoc hasn't shown anything
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> ok
[10:54] <mcphail> If it happens in the house today I might be able to hook it up via adb and see
[10:56] <mcphail> Other possibility might be a hardware failure, so OTA8 might be coincidental
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2302873
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> they dont mention ota8 though..
[10:58] <mcphail> I had one episode of (fairly) quick battery drain on OTA7, but none of the other symptoms
[10:59]  * mcphail will give it a couple of days
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> ok good luck mcphail
[11:00] <mcphail> cheers lotuspsychje
[13:21] <jkb_> hi
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> welcome
[13:22] <jkb_> i have a questino to uitk-1,3 and backward compatibility. Can anybody help on this?
[13:23] <jkb_> since when have 1.3 supported (OTA-7 or 8)? For a specific app I want to change to 1.3 but what will happen to users not on the latest OTA?
[13:46] <peat-psuwit> Anyone with supported device, could you please give me content of /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state after 1.)Turning off Wi-Fi 2.)Turning on Wi-Fi
[14:20] <bony> is it possible to run jar files in ubuntu phone? I am looking for running some small applications on a ubuntu tablet kind of games.
[14:57] <popey> peat-psuwit, i just tried to do that over ssh :)
[14:58] <peat-psuwit> popey: LOL. Bad luck, then.
[14:59] <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-11-22-145915.png
[14:59] <popey> thats network on->off->on
[15:32] <drooly> hello, silly noob question from a long-time linux user: is it possible to update, upgrade and install software on ubuntu phone just like on any other ubuntu install? does it follow ubuntu release cycles?
[15:33] <peat-psuwit> popey: Thank you for that. On my phone (LG L90), WirelessEnabled doesn't turns to true when I re-enabled Wi-Fi. Maybe it's because Wi-Fi on-off doesn't work on my phone yet.
[16:00] <k1l_> drooly: no. not really.
[16:01] <k1l_> as long as there is no real convergance i dont want dekstop-programs on my phone since they are a pain to handle with finger input.
[16:20] <drooly> k1l_, i understand that. but what about literally "is it possible without breaking my system"? and what about command-line utilities, are those the same builds as on desktop? and, most importantly, is ubuntu phone designed to be continuously (if not endlessly) updated&graded? like, good'ol sudo apt-get update?
[16:48] <popey> drooly, you can drop various command line utils on the phone, sure.
[16:48] <popey> i put mine in ~/bin/
[16:52] <drooly> popey, thanks for that, but it doesn't really answer my question: is ubuntu phone designed to be updated/graded just like a normal ubuntu installation?
[16:52] <popey> no
[16:52] <popey> OTA updates are delivered as read-only images - and diffs
[16:53] <popey> you _can_ make your phone read-write and use apt, but if it breaks (it shouldn't, but it is possible) then you may have to re-flash it
[16:55] <drooly> okay, wow, i guess i have to read up on what OTA means.
[16:55] <popey> Over The Air
[16:55] <popey> system updates basically
[16:56] <drooly> how does that differ from how ubuntu desktop handles things?
[16:56] <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-11-19-202731.png
[16:56] <popey> like that
[16:56] <popey> well, desktop uses apt
[16:56] <popey> this doesnt
[16:57] <popey> we build the image using apt, dpkg etc, but the update that goes out to devices is just a big fat binary diff between previous update and next
[16:57] <popey> so as you see in that screenshot, 68MB update between two updates (6 weeks apart)
[16:58] <drooly> ok, i see. what if i install some app that is not installed by default, how (if) will it be included in subsequent updates? and do those ota updates reflect what is going on on ubuntu desktop? because convergence?
[16:58] <popey> System updates are separate from apps.
[16:59] <popey> Apps are delivered as click packages, which can be thought of as like .apk files on android, self contained
[16:59] <popey> so in that screenshot you'd see your apps that you've installed listed beneath the system update, but all in one screen
[17:00] <popey> There's a lot of commonality between desktop and phone - e.g. stuff like dbus, systemd, network manager etc
[17:00] <popey> but there's (currently) some differences
[17:00] <popey> desktop = X, compiz, Unity, LibreOffice.
[17:00] <popey> Phone = Mir, Unity 8, confined applications
[17:01] <popey> If you install something by making the phone read/write and use apt, then it's not really defined what happens, but typically things can get a little messy
[17:02] <drooly> what if i restrict that to non-gui apps?
[17:02] <popey> depends how / where you install them
[17:02] <popey> if you put them in ~/bin then they won't be touched by the system updates
[17:02] <popey> same if you put them somewhere in /opt
[17:04] <drooly> i'm beginning to understand. it's not as straightforward as i'd hoped. i'm a little afraid to run into the same sort of difficulties (impossibilities even) one tends to run into with linux apps on android. to make it clearer, i was thinking of mosh & sshfs to make my server content available on the phone.
[17:06] <popey> There is a terminal in the store, not installed by default, but easily installable.
[17:06] <popey> I haven't tried mosh, but we ship ssh client out of the box
[17:06] <popey> not tried sshfs
[17:06] <popey> It's very different to android, _way_ easier to run linux apps
[17:07] <popey> e.g. I often build linux apps directly on my nexus 7 and copy the resulting binaries to my phone
[17:07] <drooly> both have ubuntu installed?
[17:08] <popey> yes
[17:08] <popey> I even do stupid stuff like run dosbox on my phone
[17:08] <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-11-18-203822.png
[17:08] <popey> :)
[17:09] <drooly> makes sense.
[17:09] <drooly> what about android apps? ... now i'm just asking out of curiosity
[17:10] <popey> The Ubuntu phone doesn't ship with dalvik runtime
[17:10] <popey> We don't (currently, maybe not ever) support android apps
[17:11] <drooly> ok, that's cool (i just thought that that's maybe the very first question many people ask... :-)
[17:11] <popey> We get that a lot
[17:12] <popey> FAQs:- 1) can I run android apps, 2) can I run whatsapp
[17:12] <popey> near-daily
[17:12] <drooly> in any case, you helped me a lot. i will copy this to a file :D now i know quite a lot more what to look for and what not to look for.
[17:13] <popey> there's some more useful info I can find, one moment...
[17:14] <popey> https://www.gitbook.com/book/gurucubano/bq-aquaris-e-4-5-ubuntu-phone/details
[17:14] <popey> lots of technical info in there
[17:15] <drooly> bookmarked. i think i'll go for the e5 though; unless some generous soul will help me buy the meizu.
[17:18] <popey> i saw someone mention that bq have an 'outlet' for refurb devices
[17:18] <popey> so you could potentially get one of them a bit cheaper
[17:21] <drooly> i'm looking at store.bq.com but cannot find that anywhere.
[17:24] <popey> http://store.bq.com/es/ubuntu-edition-e-4-5-outlet
[17:24] <popey> maybe contact them, they're quite responsive.
[17:25] <ludo2> Hi!
[17:27] <d^_^b_> hello
[17:27] <drooly> thanks. i'm quite set on not buying the e4.5, and i cannot find that offer for the e5...
[17:27] <ludo2> I'm tryin' to do that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/meizu-mx/general/meizu-mx4-how-to-flash-ubuntu-touch-t3210039
[17:27] <drooly> you wouldn't happen to know if ubuntu phone would work on the bq e5 4G, too?
[17:28] <drooly> http://store.bq.com/es/aquaris-e5-4-g
[17:28] <ludo2> But X don't understand the first step:
[17:29] <ludo2> Exactly this part: WHEN POPUP UPGRADE THE DRIVER OF THIS UNKNOWN DEVICE (FASTY) FROM THE FOLDER "Drivers Hard Reset"
[17:29] <d^_^b_> does it works --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/p3100 thanks
[17:30] <ludo2> When I give the path, Window$ say me there is no good driver.
[17:30] <ludo2> :-(
[17:30] <ludo2> Any idea?
[17:35] <d^_^b_> why do a chan if no one answer?
[17:36] <k1l_> ludo2: best to ask in that channel what exactly they mean and if there are known problems with that.
[17:38] <ludo2> I try to flash my meizu MX4.
[17:41] <ludo2> k1l_: Because of a problem when using ubuntu-device-flash . My phone doesn't expose adb.
[17:42] <ludo2> In this video, the author explain he had the same problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5fhoHL-mR4
[17:43] <k1l_> if its a ubuntu system run "sudo update-usbids" to make sure to have the latest usbids database
[17:48] <ludo2> But, softs that are used in this tutorial are on Windows.
[17:49] <ludo2> If there is a way to do that with GNU/Linux system, I'd prefered. But I didn't see softs to do that.
[17:51] <k1l_> ludo2: i think you better ask your question in that xda thread. i dont know about that sort of software that is used there
[17:52] <ludo2> Me too. :-)
[17:52] <popey> drooly, I don't, but doubt it
[17:59] <drooly> popey: 'k, thanks'n'bye.
[17:59] <popey> o/
[18:25] <k1l_> the BQ e4.5 got a open bootloader, right?
[18:26] <k1l_> iirc you can flash between ubuntu-touch and android. or do they both just have signed kernels?
[18:31] <mac_> trying to port ubuntu touch over android. ramdisk/script/touch I get stuck at "mount -o bind ${rootmnt}/run/image.fstab $FSTAB || panic "drop to adb""
[18:31] <mac_> what does this line mean?
[18:32] <mac_> While booting I reboot after a minute and look at the last kmsg. I have added additional debugging lines to find out where am I stuck at.
[18:33] <mac_> this is the last code it executes and doesnt move any further "mount -o bind ${rootmnt}/run/image.fstab $FSTAB || panic "drop to adb"
[18:44] <popey> k1l_, our friend studio_ flips between android and ubuntu on his bq
[18:45] <k1l_> yeah i know. but is the bootloader open (as to boot any kernel) or is ubuntu using a signed kernel.
[18:46] <popey> i think its open AFAIAA
[18:47] <k1l_> iirc there are locked bootloader devices but the signing key is public, so you can sign your own kernel so the locked bootloader works like its open.
[18:47] <k1l_> speaking not of the BQ
[18:57] <timppa_> how can I load latest ubuntu touch "preinstalled" .tar.gz to a device?
[20:30] <Edwardd> Hello
[20:30] <lotuspsychje> Edwardd: welcome
[20:31] <Edwardd> Are you a bot?
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> Edwardd: no :p
[20:31] <Edwardd> Can you help me?
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> Edwardd: ask a question first
[20:32] <Edwardd> I have problem with wifi hexadecimal password
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> Edwardd: on ubuntu phone?
[20:34] <Edwardd> Yes, I cant login on wifi witj hexadecimal password
[20:37] <Edwardd> The wifi ask me the password again and again
[20:45] <k1l_> hexadecimal is nothing else than regular numbers and letters. so are you sure you wrote it the right way? case sensitiv?
[20:45] <Edwardd> Where go the bot? I mean the bot man
[20:46] <Edwardd> k1l_ yes I wrote the correct password and did new password to make sure
[20:46] <Edwardd> The password was 504 bits random by website
[23:41] <ghosalmartin> hello, anybody tried to build ubuntu touch ontop of android 6?
[23:48] <ahoneybun> mm ubuntu sdk does not like Kubuntu
[23:48] <ahoneybun> very odd
[23:50] <ahoneybun> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13461896/


[00:15] <JohnDoe1972> hey guys
[00:16] <JohnDoe1972> bazhang why you ban me ?
[00:21] <bazhang> john ask and quit
[00:43] <Unit193> s/quit/part/
[12:40] <Samul`> hi all
[12:40] <Samul`> it looks like I have been banned from #ubuntu
[12:40] <Samul`> I don't know why, tho
[12:41] <Samul`> any online ops right now?
[12:44] <Samul`> I'm trying to deal with a major problem on my main OS right now so I need some help on the #ubuntu channel but I cannot join it. I honestly don't know why I am banned but if there a valid reason just tell me and it won't be done again
[12:51] <Samul`> I will keep waiting an answer in this channel. if there will ever be one... you know, I have a feeling that some ops are banning random people since I hadn't send any messages in that channel for days and I never noticed any ban on me. I don't understand such a behavior
[12:52] <Samul`> *sent
[12:55] <Pici> Samul`: It looks like you have been asked a few times to disable your awaynick changes,.
[12:55] <Samul`> yeah and I also answered that person who asked me that it isn't up to me
[12:55] <Samul`> since I'm not the admin of my bnc server
[12:56] <Samul`> anyway I can set a rule on my client which makes me part the channel once I close it, thus avoiding that nick change
[12:56] <Pici> That would work.
[12:57] <Pici> I'll go ahead and remove the ban then.
[12:57] <Samul`> thank you
[12:57] <Pici> You're all set.
[12:57] <Samul`> thank you again
[16:52] <cprofitt> morning all
[16:53] <Pici> howdy
[18:03] <popey> word
[19:43] <popey> Guest91245 smells like troll
[19:43] <popey> wanting to watch pr0n
[19:59] <Pici> h00k: hes been warned many times
[20:00] <h00k> Pici: thought so
[20:05] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu gambl0re wants to be offtopic - just wants to find an excuse to make noise
[20:07] <h00k> Pici: I'm a "fraud dude" in PMs too
[20:11] <Pici> h00k: what does that even mean?
[20:11] <h00k> I don't know, I /wc'd it
[20:12] <h00k> there were more misspellings
[20:12] <h00k> Pici: it included: your  a fraud dude
[20:12] <h00k> "and you need an IRC client with decent spellcheck. Chrome will do that for you."
[20:13] <h00k> I was tempted, as some sort of personal therapy, but decided it would not be appropriate."
[20:13] <h00k> s/"//
[20:18] <Pici> now hes in #ubuntu
[20:20] <h00k> pffffchchch
[20:22] <h00k> my /ar isn't working
[23:40] <bazhang> freesingdroid is always demanding like that
[23:40] <bazhang> plusz minus s


[04:37] <bzoltan_> mcphail:  Not sure if I told you that you need to delete and recreate your chroots. Or even better ... install the static chroot packages.
[07:28] <dholbach> good morning
[07:49] <Mirv> if I get ":-1: error: security:policy_groups_safe:test-xmlhttprequest:debug: (REJECT) reserved policy group 'debug': not for production use" every time I try to run a just created QML Cmake project in the SDK, what should I do instead of just clicking "Yes" to ignore every time?
[07:49] <Mirv> (I wonder if the answer is "install the new Ubuntu SDK IDE")
[08:36] <Mirv> zbenjamin: on 16.04 archive QtC I get "no executable specified" if I create a new simple QML CMake app and try to run it. if I create a Simple QML Qmake app I get "No rule to make target 'testproject.qrc', needed by 'qrc_testproject.cpp'. Stop."
[08:36] <Mirv> with desktop target
[08:41] <Mirv> well, just using from command line for my tests
[08:43] <mcphail> bzoltan_: I have deleted all my chroots from the new IDE, and have run "schroot -e --all-session" in the terminal, then created a new 15.04 chroot and new qml project. Same problem. I think the problem is either (1) I am doing it wrong or (2) the qmake template is faulty
[08:43] <zbenjamin> Mirv: let me try that
[08:44] <zbenjamin> Mirv: but first i need to finish the review for zsombi's gestures
[08:44] <Mirv> zbenjamin: yeah, no hurry, just an observation
[08:47] <bzoltan_> mcphail:  would you mind to pastebin the exact output? plus the apt-cache policy click ubuntu-sdk-ide
[08:47] <mcphail> bzoltan_: yep - one minute
[08:48] <mcphail> http://termbin.com/i1pe
[08:49] <mcphail> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13237049/
[08:50] <mcphail> bzoltan_: I can take you through the steps I am using before I have to leave for work...
[08:50] <bzoltan_> mcphail:  The click package I am interested about.. I suspect that you have wrong click and so wrong chroot
[08:51] <mcphail> http://termbin.com/fm7l
[08:52] <zbenjamin> mcphail: how did you delete the chroots?
[08:52] <mcphail> zbenjamin: through the sdk, then running schroot -e --all-session
[08:52] <zbenjamin> mcphail: also do you have the sdk ppa enabled? Also what does apt-cache policy click return
[08:53] <mcphail> zbenjamin: see my last paste - looks as if I have the stock click rather than PPA
[08:53] <zbenjamin> mcphail: where in the SDK? In tools->options->ubuntu? Or in the Kits list
[08:53] <bzoltan_> mcphail: click chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk-15.04 maint
[08:53] <zbenjamin> mcphail: thats the problem
[08:53] <bzoltan_> mcphail:  and look for te /etc/apt/sources.lists.d/
[08:53] <zbenjamin> mcphail: the stock click creates an outdated chroot
[08:54] <mcphail> zbenjamin: bzoltan_ OK, will swap it over. Don't know why click wasn't updated when I installed the SDK PPAs
[08:54] <bzoltan_> mcphail: you need the 0.4.40+15.10.20151012-0ubuntu1
[08:54] <mcphail> bzoltan_: good - I'll try that and will recreate the chroots. Thanks!
[08:54] <bzoltan_> mcphail: you need sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:55] <mcphail> Will take a while to create a new chroot, but I'll report back later
[08:56] <mcphail> Thanks both
[13:15] <mcphail> bzoltan_: zbenjamin: updating the click package has solved my problem. Thanks for your help!
[13:16] <bzoltan_> mcphail:  thank you for helping us in the release candidte validation :)
[13:16] <mcphail> bzoltan_: happy to be a guinea pig :)
[13:24] <zbenjamin> mcphail: awesome :)
[13:36] <popey> victorp, you mentioned on email the offer of assistance for DanChapman with dekko..
[13:37] <popey> victorp, I think DanChapman has a couple of specific things someone on your team may be able to help with
[13:43] <victorp> popey, I was specifically asking about the polld integration
[13:43] <popey> ah okay.
[13:43] <popey> will look elsewhere.
[13:44] <DanChapman> victorp: popey well it is todo with that in a way. :-) It's the online account plugin that polld will share
[13:46] <victorp> DanChapman, sure
[13:47] <victorp> DanChapman, we done a few OA plugins
[13:47] <victorp> DanChapman, do you have  a specific bug/task for that , it would be useful for me to fwd to my team
[13:50] <DanChapman> victorp: i've written the majority of the plugin now which has a qt c++ plugin module. I just need help getting it merged it into lp:account-plugins which uses autotools and I have no real idea how to do it :-) I don't have a bug for it yet but I will create one now
[13:51] <victorp> DanChapman, thanks
[14:19] <DanChapman> victorp sorry for the delay. here's a bug for it https://bugs.launchpad.net/accounts-plugin-email/+bug/1515639
[14:21] <victorp> thanks
[14:21] <victorp> DanChapman, ^^