[12:06] <jenda> Burgwork: did you get those four locale screenshots you wanted from elkbuntu yet?
[12:08] <Burgwork> not yet
[12:08] <jenda> Right.
[12:09] <jenda> She had to go to sleep, and she passed the duty on to me...
[12:09] <jenda> and I had to run off before...
[12:09] <jenda> so I'm working on it now.
[12:09] <Burgwork> if you can't do it, I will play with it tonight
[12:09] <jenda> She found out that the artwork _is_ different than in Dapper, so it can't be cheated.
[12:09] <jenda> I'm currently looking for a volunteer in #ubuntu+1
[12:14] <Burgwork> right, I can do it on my edgy machine
[12:14] <Burgwork> if you want to go over the Knot3 page instead
[12:14] <jenda> You have one :)
[12:15] <jenda> linky?
[12:17] <jenda> nvm, got it.
[01:20] <jenda> I need to go to sleep. Sorry to have failed you there.
[01:20] <Burgwork> jenda, no worries
[01:21] <jenda> I'd like to know what you think about the DIY thing I mailed to the list. But no hurry, I'll be off for a week.
[01:21] <jenda> (unless I can read it in the morning)
[02:47] <john_little> anyone have a notebook recommendation?
[02:48] <Rinchen> if you buy an apple or IBM send me an email. I get discounts.
[02:48] <Rinchen><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:49] <john_little> hows that work?
[02:55] <Rinchen> ibm I can give you a special userid and pw, apple it's a special webpage
[02:56] <popey> I have a Dell and I love it
[02:56] <popey> I borrowed a 17" MacBook Pro from Apple and didn't really get on with it
[03:15] <john_little> thinking about a toshiba 12"
[05:14] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, ping?
[05:15] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: pong
[05:16] <elkbuntu> sorry about the pics, do you still need them?
[05:16] <Burgundavia> for the i18n stuff? yes, absolutely
[05:17] <elkbuntu> i've managed to get the dist upgrade to complete so i at least have the right icons and wallpaper now
[05:17] <elkbuntu> im going to email you a tar.gz with stuff in a sec, gmail ok?
[05:18] <Burgundavia> for the artwork?
[05:18] <Burgundavia> frank already did the background, etc.
[05:18] <elkbuntu> the stuff you asked me for last night?
[05:18] <Burgundavia> yes, the 4 sections in 4 languages I still need
[05:19] <elkbuntu> i may or may nto have misinterpreted what you requested.. i couldnt really ask after you'd gone
[05:20] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: well, shoot it to me
[05:20] <elkbuntu> email sent now
[05:21] <Burgundavia> or upload it
[05:21] <elkbuntu> i've sent it to your gmail
[05:22] <elkbuntu> you've ended up with french, chinese, russian and arabic. cant get a much more varied selection :)
[05:23] <Burgundavia> that is ok
[05:23] <elkbuntu> btw, arabic is *trippy* to work in.. because *everything* is backwards and you habitually hit the wrong button to cancel ;)
[05:24] <elkbuntu> the composition is ok?
[05:24] <Burgundavia> those are perfect
[05:25] <elkbuntu> the story was.. oo.o adamantly refused to open in chinese or japanese
[05:25] <elkbuntu> in dapper
[05:25] <Burgundavia> the composition of the four is not exaclty what I had in mind
[05:25] <Burgundavia> but I will play with them
[05:25] <elkbuntu> yep, thats why i included the shots
[05:26] <elkbuntu> text is not a great way of trying to portray how you want an image to look
[05:26] <elkbuntu> ;)
[05:26] <Burgundavia> yes
[05:27] <elkbuntu> any other locale based stuff you need?
[05:28] <Burgundavia> nope
[05:29] <Burgundavia> gah, trying todo 3 thing at once
[05:29] <elkbuntu> yeah.. i know that feeling
[05:30] <elkbuntu> im just sorry it took me so long to do those, but nothing wanted to cooperate last night :(
[05:33] <Burgundavia> no worries
[05:33] <Burgundavia> we got lucky, Knot 3 has not been released yet
[05:33] <elkbuntu> btw.. it's Arabic (India), Chinese (China Mainland), French (UTF8),  and Russian.
[05:33] <elkbuntu> if you wanted to be specific for th page :)
[05:40] <elkbuntu> also, from my experience, edgy handles swapping and changing locales much better than dapper.. dapper i had to reset the machine between, edgy i havent had to
[05:49] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot3 now
[05:50] <elkbuntu> :)
[05:54] <elkbuntu> i'll keep those translations on the laptop i guess... they'll be useful another time
[06:37] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: thoughts on our Knot 3 page?
[06:38] <elkbuntu> apart from the fact im not a fan of art.. it feels like it's missing stuff.. like.. after the translations or something
[06:39] <elkbuntu> im not sure what though..
[06:41] <Burgundavia> yes, I don't know that we had more changes?
[06:41] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, is upstart the only cool change..
[06:41] <Burgundavia> yep
[06:41] <Burgundavia> and that is not something one takes screenshots of
[06:42] <elkbuntu> true. may be include the logo there for the prettiness factor?
[06:42] <Burgundavia> sure
[06:44] <elkbuntu> eek.. 'incorrect password' message hurts against the new darker login screen
[06:47] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: can you reshoot the russian image?
[06:47] <Burgundavia> without gimp active?
[06:48] <elkbuntu> sure
[06:56] <nixternal> don't forget the new usplashes as well which are new for knot3
[06:57] <Burgundavia> nixternal: already covered, should move the screenshot
[06:58] <nixternal> im done..just waiting for knot 3 to be released now
[06:59] <elkbuntu> in transit, Burgundavia
[06:59] <Burgundavia> cheers
[06:59] <elkbuntu> i hadnt really noticed that it was active until you mentioned it just now
[07:00] <Burgundavia> nor did I
[07:05] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: got it
[07:05] <Burgundavia> now I wish I had saved that bloody gimp image as something other than a png
[07:05] <elkbuntu> i know that feeling oh-so-well
[07:07] <Burgundavia> how do I move a selection in the gimp?
[07:08] <elkbuntu> um... not sure.
[07:09] <elkbuntu> i've been using gimp for over 2 years now and i have nfi :|
[07:12] <elkbuntu> ahhh i know now
[07:12] <elkbuntu> i think
[07:13] <elkbuntu> well you can make it float from the selection menu
[07:13] <elkbuntu> and you can move it around and it'll anchor when you click outside the selection
[07:14] <elkbuntu> ^-- best i can come up with, Burgundavia
[07:14] <Burgundavia> no, I need to move the selection box, not the actual selection
[07:15] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, having fun with the GIMP again?
[07:15] <elkbuntu> o.O
[07:15] <Burgundavia> yes
[07:15] <Burgundavia> I hate it
[07:16] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: can you do https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Knot3?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=languages.png better?
[07:16] <Burgundavia> I have the source files, courtesy of the lovely elkbuntu
[07:16] <Madpilot> not on a LiveCD on a laptop without enough RAM, I can't
[07:16] <elkbuntu> Madpilot, if you ever need a brainf*** load up an arabic locale :)
[07:16] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, i'll have a go since i know what you want now
[07:17] <Burgundavia> ok, thanks
[07:17] <Burgundavia> try copying arabic into a bunch of text
[07:17] <Burgundavia> I did that with the GNOME posters I was doing a while back
[07:17] <Madpilot> I don't even dare think about loading the GIMP on this thing - it would probably freeze solid
[07:18] <Burgundavia> ok, thanks
[07:18] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, im talking how everything is backwards.. you try cancel out of something and it takes you several attempts before you remmeber to hit 'the other button'
[07:18] <Burgundavia> ah
[07:19] <Madpilot> yeah, the cursor running "backwards" when you're dealing with RTL scripts is very odd
[07:20] <nixternal> Burgundavia: if you want, sling me the orig's on those images, and i will do it up for you quickly
[07:21] <nixternal> only take me 1 minute..and you say yay/nay to it
[07:21] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu is going to have a go, now that she knows what I was thinking
[07:21] <elkbuntu> well. lets see who can do it better :P
[07:21] <nixternal> gimme some digs
[07:21] <nixternal> i have pbuilders going everywhere
[07:21] <nixternal> im starting to get scared
[07:22] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu can you fire the images to nixternal or should I?
[07:22] <nixternal> hehe
[07:22] <elkbuntu> you can, i'd have to find his addy
[07:22] <nixternal> watch it on the moooooshy stuff guy ;)
[07:22] <nixternal> dcc it
[07:22] <nixternal> i think my firewall is being nice
[07:23] <Burgundavia> prefectly sober
[07:23] <nixternal> haha
[07:23] <Burgundavia> just happy
[07:23] <Burgundavia> my life is going very well recently
[07:24] <Burgundavia> I wish I could tell you all why, but most of it is work and very much hush hush
[07:24] <elkbuntu> oooh, fun :)
[07:24] <Madpilot> slightly silly amounts of money are involved, but I'll say no more ;)
[07:25] <Burgundavia> one thing I can tell is that work is paying my way to the GNOME summit in Boston
[07:25] <nixternal> where are them pics?
[07:26] <nixternal> bah boston
[07:26] <Burgundavia> nixternal: incoming
[07:26] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, nice, you won't have to squat on someone else's floor ;)
[07:26] <Burgundavia> yep
[07:26] <nixternal> chicago messed up big time..we used to have all of the killer shows here at one point
[07:27] <Burgundavia> sent
[07:27] <Burgundavia> nixternal: can you add your event to the UWN calendar?
[07:27] <nixternal> sure can
[07:27] <nixternal> in october ;)
[07:27] <nixternal> but i can pimp it for the next month ;)
[07:27] <Burgundavia> if it was announced this week, it goes in this weeks
[07:28] <nixternal> no prob
[07:28] <Burgundavia> after that it lives in the fridges calendar
[07:29] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, will you be coming down under for LCA?
[07:29] <Burgundavia> work and I are talking
[07:29] <Burgundavia> I won't say either yes or no
[07:29] <elkbuntu> cool, in consideration at least
[07:29] <john_little> Start wewantcorey.com Melissa
[07:30] <elkbuntu> rofl
[07:32] <john_little> Maybe its time for you to leave the big island..go consult in HK or something
[07:32] <elkbuntu> im not -that good- at linux, i just like it lots
[07:33] <john_little> its ok. most consultants arent good at anything
[07:35] <john_little> Can you use words like "synergy" and "mindshare" in a sentence..and work powerpoint/Presentation?
[07:36] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: what do you do currently?
[07:37] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, nothing, well, work for the dole as of tuesday coming :(
[07:37] <Burgundavia> right
[07:37] <john_little> Wed development
[07:37] <john_little> er Web
[07:37] <elkbuntu> john_little, i like to tell myself that, but i've had 1 client since november last year so well.. :(
[07:39] <john_little> Ok so now customers..but you can still do it
[07:39] <john_little> now=no
[07:39] <elkbuntu> yeah
[07:40] <john_little> And you've launched a very successful site for one of the hottest tech projects around
[07:40] <john_little> I hope the counter is on your resume
[07:40] <elkbuntu> on my folio
[07:40] <elkbuntu> on/in
[07:40] <john_little> cool
[07:44] <john_little> I know a company hiring like mad...but the jobs are in India
[07:47] <nixternal> http://buntudot.org/people/~nixternal/bah.png
[07:47] <nixternal> dunno if i really like it
[07:50] <john_little> I think it looks pretty good
[07:51] <john_little> http://youtube.com/watch?v=n0rGyajWdlg
[07:55] <Burgundavia> nixternal: too tall
[07:55] <nixternal> my thoughts exactly
[07:55] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, dont worry, im here ;)
[07:55] <elkbuntu> gimme a sec to move them
[07:56] <elkbuntu> http://meldra.no-ip.info:8080/translations
[07:56] <elkbuntu> you even get choice!
[07:58] <Burgundavia> thoughts?
[07:58] <Burgundavia> 1st is cleaner
[07:58] <elkbuntu> yeah
[07:58] <elkbuntu> 2nd was just 'hmm i wonder'
[07:59] <elkbuntu> but you -can- see more of each pic imho
[07:59] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: all yours to edit
[07:59] <Burgundavia> replace the existing languages.png pelase
[08:00] <elkbuntu> which one though? 1st or 2nd?
[08:01] <Burgundavia> the 1st, with the cascade like the one I mocked up
[08:04] <elkbuntu> there you go :)
[08:05] <Burgundavia> looks good
[08:08] <elkbuntu> i still say find a pic of the upstart logo to make that part stand out more
[08:09] <Burgundavia> not hard
[08:09] <Burgundavia> look on keybuks blog
[08:15] <Burgundavia> ok, are we ready to move to the ubuntu website
[08:15] <Burgundavia> ?
[08:15] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu, john_little final thoughts/edits on Knot3?
[08:16] <elkbuntu> im still wading through the planet trying to find a post from keybuk so i can find his blog and the logo
[08:17] <Burgundavia> netsplit.com
[08:18] <elkbuntu> www. seems useful with that site ;)
[08:19] <john_little> find it?
[08:21] <elkbuntu> yep
[08:22] <john_little> looks nice
[08:22] <john_little> Knot3 that is
[08:24] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, ive left the 'in progress notice' and you may want to fix up the upstart logo's placement.... i dont know how to use the wiki good enough
[08:24] <Burgundavia> on the website I can use HTML
[08:25] <elkbuntu> ok then well i'll leave you to the rest :)
[08:26] <Burgundavia> http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/09/customizing_ubuntu_live_cd_606_1.html <--- cool
[08:29] <elkbuntu> second comment == cool, all the comments that said 'you didnt search so we'll pop your bubble of success' == not cool
[08:31] <john_little> nice work on the knot3 stuff ppl
[08:32] <john_little> I'm going to bed..getting up early to buy a new laptop before work :)
[08:32] <Burgundavia> hmm, http://digg.com/linux_unix/Fluendo_Multimedia_Codecs_DRM_Ubuntu
[08:32] <john_little> lol
[08:34] <john_little> I just dug it...and commented ;)
[08:36] <Madpilot> Burgundavia gets dugg ;)
[08:36] <Burgundavia> heh
[08:36] <Madpilot> which video is that, anyway? (I'm currently Flashless...)
[08:36] <john_little> He's just pissed that they didn't refer to him as "Chief Editor"
[08:37] <Burgundavia> right
[08:37] <Burgundavia> not really
[08:37] <john_little> ;)
[08:37] <Burgundavia> added the adobe story to the UWN
[08:37] <Burgundavia> Madpilot: it is the video of my at Google
[08:37] <Madpilot> john_little, his actual title is "Grand Poobah & Principal Sh*t Disturber", I think
[08:38] <Burgundavia> after 5 days of solid talking
[08:38] <john_little> Corey Burger, PSD
[08:38] <Burgundavia> my voice was pretty much done
[08:38] <john_little> Yeah I get like that about twice a week. during bouts of presentations
[08:39] <john_little> coffee helps
[08:39] <Burgundavia> ick
[08:40] <john_little> ok, microwave a cup of Diet Rockstar :)
[08:40] <john_little> that would be gross actually
[08:41] <elkbuntu> i dont like plain coffee, but mocha and flavoured lattes are ok
[08:42] <Madpilot> London Fog - Earl Grey + steamed milk. brilliant source of caffiene.
[08:42] <Burgundavia> funny, I had never heard that until today and now two people mention it to me
[08:42] <elkbuntu> tea does not release as much caffeine as coffee
[08:42] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: I agree with you on the coffee thing
[08:43] <Madpilot> Burgundavia, what, London Fog?
[08:43] <Burgundavia> yep
[08:44] <Madpilot> best thing to come out of the Starbucks-add-steamed-milk-to-everything craze, IMO
[08:44] <john_little> London Fog is great....sprinkle like 2-3 drops on a gallon of Kona coffee
[08:45] <john_little> starbucks isn't tasty..it's convenient
[08:45] <john_little> the coffee that is
[08:45] <elkbuntu> and good value
[08:46] <elkbuntu> white chocolate mocha == teh awesomeness
[08:46] <Madpilot> john_little, starbucks is shite coffee; they over-roast (ie, burn) their beans
[08:46] <john_little> gotta respect a company that can make a tall drink with more fat than a double cheeseburger
[08:47] <john_little> yep...but they're on every corner so I find myself in there more than id like
[08:47] <elkbuntu> i get steamed milk rather than cream ;)
[08:48] <john_little> I drink black americanos..starbucks makes a C grade americano
[09:00] <Burgundavia> ok, truly last words (until tomorrow morning)
[09:00] <Burgundavia> moving knot 3 over
[09:03] <elkbuntu> cool
[09:03] <Burgundavia> https://www.ubuntu.com/testing/knot3
[09:03] <Madpilot> when is Knot3 being released?
[09:04] <Burgundavia> soon
[09:04] <Burgundavia> sadly, I have no idea as to exact time
[09:05] <Madpilot> soon as in hours, or soon as in a few days?
[09:05] <Burgundavia> hours, likely
[09:05] <Burgundavia> I have just pinged Mithrandir to find out
[09:05] <elkbuntu> i'd imagine hours, it was supposed to be this morning
[09:06] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: one issue with your image
[09:06] <Burgundavia> its drop shadow is a different direction
[09:06] <Burgundavia> could you correct that on the wiki? (the page is pulling from the wiki for images)
[09:06] <elkbuntu> i noticed that, ok i'll fix it
[09:06] <elkbuntu> it might mean the cascade goes the other way though
[09:07] <Burgundavia> hmm, that is no good
[09:07] <Burgundavia> well, lets see
[09:07] <elkbuntu> yep, gimme a min
[09:13] <elkbuntu> well there you go, doesnt look quite as 3d anymore but oh well
[09:14] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: that is great
[09:14] <Burgundavia> thanks so much for your hard work
[09:14] <elkbuntu> :) you sleep well now
[09:14] <Burgundavia> we should probably put the standard footer on that page, listing people and then the marketing team, rather than me
[09:14] <Burgundavia> I will do that tomorrow
[09:15] <elkbuntu> i dont think therei s any real need
[09:16] <Burgundavia> I do
[09:16] <Burgundavia> because unlike when mgalvin did it, these are much more team efforts
[09:18] <elkbuntu> up to you
[09:19] <Madpilot> need sleep - night, all
[09:19] <elkbuntu> cya Madpilot
[11:16] <jenda> I was so sorry that noone responded to my email that I did it myself.
[11:25] <jenda> aaand, my smtp server is prolly dead now.
[11:28] <jenda> sent.
[11:28] <jenda> I'll be off for a week, so see y'all.
[11:33] <MenZa> :o
[11:33] <MenZa> cya, jenda
[03:40] <free_attitude> hello
[03:42] <free_attitude> anyone here?
[04:09] <MenZa> no.
[04:09] <MenZa> noone's here.
[04:09] <free_attitude> really?
[04:09] <free_attitude> :)
[04:10] <MenZa> nope.
[04:10] <MenZa> sorry to disappoint.
[04:11] <free_attitude> damn :)
[05:21] <Klaidas> hmm
[05:21] <Klaidas> I just got some Ubuntu CDs, yay!
[05:21] <Klaidas> The interesting part of this that I got them from a friend who I told about Ubuntu :-D
[05:22] <Klaidas> He didn't believe that you can really get free cds from shipit, so I just told him to order and try it
[05:23] <Klaidas> he was amazad when they came and let me keep some :))


[01:03] <rmcbride> well
[03:20] <ublender> Has anyone here found a solution for the synchronization errors for tomboy notes in oneiric?
[23:56] <gatox> @ping
[23:56] <ubot4> pong


[07:12] <mirazi_heket> hello, i have problem exactly like this guy here https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/quicker-launching-from-mate-menu-search/367 but there seems to be newer code for latest ubuntu version, can i fix this somewhat easily?
[11:50] <skookum> mirazi_heket: I remember having a similar issue but it was fixed in newer versions. Have you tried running the "Software Updater" from the menu?
[11:59] <mirazi_heket> lets start from scratch, what's the package name, because i don't know?
[12:00] <mirazi_heket> i will check version first
[12:04] <mirazi_heket> hmm, its 1.22.1-0ubuntu1
[12:10] <skookum> mirazi_heket: which version of ubuntu are you running? You can find it in the "MATE System Monitor" under "System"
[12:10] <mirazi_heket> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 19.10"
[12:12] <skookum> mirazi_heket:So, it looks like quick launching was fixed in 16.04. What exactly isn't working for you?
[12:13] <mirazi_heket> scenario: i have 2 apps installed: mate terminal and terminator. Whenever i type terminal i expect first application from list to be opened when i click enter but instead ive got
[12:14] <mirazi_heket> https://pasteboard.co/IZEWiUC.png
[12:14] <mirazi_heket> both are shown on the list but noone of them is launched when i press enter
[12:18] <skookum> mirazi_heket:That error is telling you that the menu entry for Terminal is pointing to a file that doesn't exist. For example, the command for MATE Terminal is "mate-terminal". Are you familiar with how to edit your menu entries? There is a "Main Menu" app in there.
[12:19] <mirazi_heket> you know, i think that the point of such app is so i wont have to remember exact binary names :|
[12:20] <mirazi_heket> and there is no app 'terminal' in home of course
[12:23] <skookum> mirazi_heket: if you use the mouse are you able to launch MATE Terminal?
[12:24] <mirazi_heket> yes, if i use tab (double tab to be exact) i can do that too
[12:24] <mirazi_heket> its just that every other 'alternative' app, such as synapse for example does it with just enter
[12:25] <skookum> mirazi_heket: so the problem is purely with Terminator then? (and the fact that it appears first when you type "terminal" into search
[12:30] <skookum> mirazi_heket:Am I correct that you tried to create the menu entry for Terminator yourself? The reason I ask is that I just installed Terminator and it doesn't create a menu entry.
[12:31] <mirazi_heket> i didnt created this menu entry by myself, the issue is (from my perspective) that when more than 1 application is found and i press enter i expect to first app from list to be launched, but ive got error ive just pasted out
[12:36] <skookum> mirazi_heket:I understand. What I'm getting at is that the first app which is failing to launch was probably not created by ubuntu or Terminator. If you run "which terminator" from MATE Terminal you will see where the shortcut should be pointing to.
[12:37] <mirazi_heket> /usr/bin/terminator
[12:37] <mirazi_heket> i mean, i expect mate-terminal to launch if i press enter, but if for any reason terminator is launched im ok with that too
[12:38] <skookum> mirazi_heket:Correct. So currently your menu entry is trying to point to "/home/pc/terminal" instead of "/usr/bin/terminator" and that's why you are getting an error when you try to simply type terminal and hit enter
[12:39] <mirazi_heket> seems correct
[12:39] <skookum> mirazi_heket:My suggestion would be to use the "Main Menu" program to either fix that shortcut or remove it entirely.
[23:45] <Bendew> Hello