[05:25] <barrydk> Morning everyone
[06:14] <inetpro_> good mornings
[06:15] <Kilos> morning inetpro_  and others
[06:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[06:18] <Squirm> Morning
[06:19] <Squirm> I best be off to work. Be back in 30.
[07:02] <Kilos> so brainy peeps how do i make my ubuntu email address the default? I only see choices for other email addresses
[07:03] <Kilos> i keep forgetting to tick on each mail to choose and end up at the moderator eveytime
[07:14] <inetpro> Kilos: google is your friend
[07:15] <Kilos> i have man, and the advise they give doesnt show the ubuntu alias as an option
[07:15] <Kilos> default is grayed out
[07:16] <Kilos> sigh
[07:20] <Kilos> maybe i must just try remember everytime
[07:26] <Kilos> hi TinuvaMac
[07:27] <TinuvaMac> morning Kilos
[07:34] <Spekko> more manne
[07:35] <Kilos> hi Spekko
[07:42] <Spekko> another day in paradise hey ?
[07:43] <Kilos> yeah
[07:43] <Kilos> haha i just said that to a guy in some other country
[07:44] <Spekko> hahaha
[07:44] <Spekko> rsynced
[07:44] <Kilos> lol
[07:51] <Jacques_Stry> morning
[08:07] <Kilos> hi Jacques_Stry
[08:46] <Kilos> hi SDCDev  what you doing?
[09:48] <Kilos> hmm...
[10:49] <Langjan> Hi marius
[10:49] <Langjan> and Kilos
[10:50] <Kilos> hi Langjan
[10:50] <suiram> Langjan, dit lyk of ek op die pad ios
[10:50] <Langjan> Kilos,  why does marius name not work in tab
[10:50] <Kilos> hi suiram  welcome by ubuntu-za
[10:51] <Kilos> works here
[10:51] <suiram> Kilos, thankyou - still learning
[10:51] <Langjan> suiram,
[10:51] <Kilos> not a problem
[10:51] <Langjan> Ok its old age, trying marius
[10:51] <Kilos> lol
[10:51] <Langjan> nou het ons nog 'n oompie
[10:52] <Langjan> hys 4 jaar ouer as ek, ancient
[10:52] <Kilos> mooi man nou voel ek beter
[10:52] <Kilos> sjoe
[10:52] <Kilos> regte egte ballie ne
[10:52] <suiram> Kilos, ek speel nie saam met kinders nie
[10:52] <Kilos> haha
[10:52] <Langjan> jy word nou 'n junior Kilos
[10:53] <Kilos> hier is baie jonges hier, hulle is die slimmes met die nuwe goed
[10:53] <suiram> Kilos, cheers vireers
[10:53] <Kilos> ek sien daai ding Langjan
[10:53] <Langjan> mooi loop en lekker dag
[10:53] <Kilos> sien jou weer
[11:39] <stickyboy> Great article about retro games and pixel art: http://www.dinofarmgames.com/a-pixel-artist-renounces-pixel-art/
[15:58] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:14] <magespawn> good evening
[16:15] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[16:17] <magespawn> how are you Kilos?
[16:17] <Kilos> im good ty magespawn  and you?
[16:17] <magespawn> all good thanks
[16:18] <Kilos> we had a bally here older than langjan
[16:18] <Kilos> they just installed 15.04 on his old lappy
[16:18] <magespawn> cool beans
[16:18] <Kilos> 86, whew ill never get there
[16:19] <Kilos> nono 76
[16:19] <magespawn> that is very cool
[16:19] <magespawn> did he get along well?
[16:19] <Kilos> yeah
[16:19] <Kilos> its just slow with only 1g ram
[16:19] <magespawn> awesome
[16:20] <magespawn> the full unity?
[16:20] <Kilos> he is going to try get more but looks like 2g is max
[16:20] <Kilos> yeah the full unity with xchat hehe
[16:21] <Kilos> suiram is his nick
[16:22] <magespawn> i would suggest going with xubuntu rather
[16:22] <Kilos> they tried lubuntu but decided to go full unity
[16:22] <magespawn> i run kali linux on my older machine, that has gnome for the desktop
[16:23] <magespawn> i have never really liked lubuntu, it is lighter, but you give up too much functionality
[16:23] <Kilos> oh you must look at bento sometime the pro tried it too
[16:23] <magespawn> and with me they always seemed to be buggy
[16:23] <Kilos> ubuntu with openbox
[16:23] <Kilos> i didnt like lubuntu either
[16:24] <Kilos> bemto seems quite lekker
[16:24] <Kilos> bento
[16:24] <Kilos> and fast
[16:24] <magespawn> i did like elementaryOS as well but it is too far behind on the base ubuntu
[16:25] <magespawn> let me go look
[16:25] <Kilos> ya
[16:25] <Kilos> inetpro  you have the bento link please
[16:26] <Kilos> i dont know if google can find it being unofficial
[16:27] <magespawn> lets see
[16:29] <Kilos> http://phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/sushi-trusty-rc4-i686-3.13.0-49-2014.04.2.iso
[16:29] <Kilos> i think thats it
[16:29] <Kilos> http://phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/sushi-trusty-rc4-i686-3.13.0-49-2014.04.2.iso.md5sum
[16:30] <Kilos> that ones is based on 12.04 but she is already working on the 15.05 i think
[16:31] <magespawn> i might wait for that
[16:31] <Kilos> she needs testers
[16:32] <magespawn> what is that malinux? in the same directory
[16:32] <Kilos> the 14.04 one is out already too
[16:32] <Kilos> i have no idea
[16:38] <magespawn> unfortunately i depend too much on the computer for work to be go too much out on to the edge
[16:38] <Kilos> yeah
[16:38] <Kilos> but bento is nice and uses ubuntu repos
[16:58] <magespawn> i was looking into chromeOS
[17:15] <magespawn> back again
[17:20] <Kilos> wb magespawn
[18:02] <inetpro> good evening
[18:03] <Kilos> evening inetpro
[18:24] <stickyboy> Anyone been to Khartoum?
[18:39] <kulelu88> any experienced Pythonistas here?
[19:01] <magespawn> good night all
[19:37] <Kilos> hmm...
[19:54] <Kilos> wb confluency
[20:31] <superfly> kulelu88: some people call me that
[20:32] <superfly> kulelu88: ping me tomorrow evening around 20:30 if you still have a query
[20:59] <kulelu88> thanks superfly
[20:59] <kulelu88> unless you're still here
[21:11] <Kilos> hi qwebirc70641
[21:11] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[21:11] <Kilos> hi sharky1
[21:11] <Kilos> welcome to you as well
[21:12] <qwebirc70641> hi guys
[21:12] <kulelu88> qwebirc70641: aren't you sharky1 ?
[21:12] <Kilos> you visiting here from the site?
[21:13] <qwebirc70641> yep
[21:14] <Kilos> qwebirc70641  sharky1  if you need help just state what your prob is and someone will help you
[21:27] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[21:30] <melodie> good evening
[21:31] <kulelu88> melodie: can you send me that free .me coupon again?
[21:31] <kulelu88> I lost the email :(
[21:35] <melodie> kulelu88 sorry, the promo is over
[21:35] <kulelu88> is it? aah well
[21:35] <melodie> it expired on april 30th
[21:35] <kulelu88> no problemo
[21:35] <melodie> but,
[21:35] <melodie> it's not expensive at all if you want to buy one
[21:35] <kulelu88> I don't want to hold on to many domains.
[21:36] <kulelu88> $10 a piece can add up quickly
[21:36] <melodie> you can have the .me for a smaller price I think
[21:37] <melodie> smallandbeautiful.xyz || 2.50 euros
[21:38] <melodie> :)
[21:38] <kulelu88> that's cheap
[21:38] <melodie> it's a one year promotion
[21:39] <kulelu88> and the normal price thereafter?
[21:39] <melodie> it looks like it woult b
[21:39] <melodie> be
[21:39] <melodie> 10.48 (vat needs to be addedà
[21:39] <melodie> -à +)
[21:41] <kulelu88> I don't get how VAT on digital goods works in europe
[21:43] <melodie> 20%
[21:45] <kulelu88> So if I am in South Africa and you buy a domain for me, do I need to pay your government 20%?
[21:46] <melodie> kulelu88 I don't know, but: you might want to ask #gandi : they might know
[21:46] <melodie> it's their job, right?
[21:47] <melodie> kulelu88 if your domain has anything to do with ethics, alternate, free software, humanitarian or such you can request a free / no cost domain ending with ".eu.org" ie: somedomain.za.eu.org
[21:48] <melodie> you can check http://eu.org
[21:52] <kulelu88> interesting.
[22:24] <melodie> kulelu88 sure
[22:24] <melodie> we got #gnubirthday.eu.org
[22:24] <melodie> for the 30th Gnu birthday !
[22:24] <melodie> we : a bunch of buddies
[22:24] <melodie> through internet/forums and linux chans
[22:25] <kulelu88> melodie: you must be the only woman I've ever met on IRC.
[22:26] <melodie> I have met other ones and so will you
[22:29] <kulelu88> melodie: it's not about meeting women, it's just that representation is women in tech is so low and women can be and probably are better programmers than men
[22:30] <kulelu88> *of women in tech
[22:30] <melodie> not better
[22:30] <melodie> as good when interested
[22:31] <melodie> just many women are less interested than men in techs
[22:31] <melodie> or less women are
[22:31] <kulelu88> or they prefer the sales work instead of the code
[22:31] <kulelu88> I don't blame them though. programming can be boring
[22:31] <melodie> :)
[22:32] <melodie> I don't do programming either, never found any time to learn
[22:32] <melodie> not that I didn't try to get myself started
[22:32] <melodie> I read the comments in the source :D
[22:33] <kulelu88> do you game? melodie
[22:34] <melodie> kulelu88 I don't game either
[22:34] <kulelu88> aah okay.
[22:34] <melodie> I do Bento Openbox, and hold the website, forum and wiki
[22:34] <melodie> and a bit more
[22:34] <melodie> I do hardware (some of it) and help people with their computing issues
[22:35] <melodie> kulelu88 what about you?
[22:36] <kulelu88> I'm currently doing a bit of coding.
[22:36] <kulelu88> work
[22:36] <kulelu88> a bit of gaming
[22:36] <kulelu88> a bit of tv
[22:37] <melodie> what do you do in coding? one language, several? a particular goal or just attracted to it?
[22:37] <kulelu88> I code mainly in Python
[22:38] <kulelu88> but I am learning a bit about static languages too
[22:38] <kulelu88> I want to build a few webapps
[22:40] <melodie> ok
[22:40] <kulelu88> Do you work?
[22:41] <melodie> once a while, it happens
[22:41] <melodie> I hope it will happen more and more :D
[22:41] <melodie> do you?
[22:42] <kulelu88> yeah ... why wouldn't I :-/
[22:42] <melodie> by lack of work?
[22:42] <kulelu88> there is plenty, but I made a plan :)
[22:42] <melodie> finding work around here is a bit hard, but I hope to get more and more to do with time
[22:43] <kulelu88> yeah France is a shit country, no offence
[22:43] <melodie> kulelu88 no offense, and it is heading to worse and worse
[22:43] <melodie> how is za?
[22:43] <kulelu88> Probably worse than France
[22:44] <kulelu88> :D
[22:44] <melodie> or whatever country you're living in?
[22:44] <melodie> are you living in za?


[21:08] <bug42> Does arm64 OS image exist?
[21:12] <bug42> I have a project based on arm based kylin os.  Now that i have aquired hardware from Huawei, i have hard time finding arm64 os image.


[01:04] <mup> PR snapcraft#3890 closed: ua: enable ua services in legacy <Created by cmatsuoka> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3890>
[09:30] <mup> PR snapd#12080 closed: overlord: track security profiles for non-active snaps <Squash-merge> <Bug> <Run nested> <Created by pedronis> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12080>
[17:57] <dob1> azuredatastudio is a good candidate for snap


[07:32] <pstolowski> cimi, morning
[07:45] <Saviq> pstolowski, he's only back Friday
[07:46] <pstolowski> Saviq, ah, right. thx
[07:46] <Saviq> I agree, people should log off IRC when they're away :P
[07:47] <pstolowski> ;)
[08:03] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: anything i can help?
[08:03] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, hey
[08:04] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, yeah, the social silo has a small bug - it seems unity8 passed empty category id to activateAction()
[08:04] <pstolowski> * passes
[08:05] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, nb, i fixed a bug in the plugin, social actions are shown now
[08:10] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, is this something you can confirm by just looking at the code? would that be an easy fix?
[08:13] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: i think it's a 1 line fix yes, how hard is for you to test it (i.e. can you hand edit a file to confirm it works before i push a new branch to override cimi's)?
[08:15] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, i can test pretty easy, just let me know what to change
[08:16] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: in GenericScopeView http://paste.ubuntu.com/15558065/
[08:16] <tsdgeos> /usr/share/unity8/Dash/GenericScopeView.qml
[08:17] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, cool. let me check
[08:18] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, yay, works!
[08:18] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, thanks :)
[08:19] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, can you MP it (with cimi's MP as prereq)?
[08:19] <tsdgeos> sure
[08:19] <pstolowski> will add it to the silo
[08:24] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/card-social-category-fix/+merge/290404
[08:25] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, tx
[08:26] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, want me to top-approve too?
[08:26] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: if you feel like, sure
[09:35] <elacheche> Hey!
[09:35] <elacheche> I was looking for a way to check is the screen is locked or not via CLI.. :/ And if someone have an idea when the idle == "?xdm?" bug will be fixed
[09:35]  * elacheche is trying to script a cron that send a mail whenever a user forget his screen not locked
[09:37] <Saviq> elacheche, you might be better off on askubuntu or ubuntu forums, most of us here are working on unity8 now
[09:38] <elacheche> Oh! I see! Unity8 will be shipped with Ubuntu 16.04, right?
[09:38] <ltinkl> elacheche: under unity7 or 8?
[09:38] <elacheche> idle == "?xdm?" bug will be fixed  in Unity8? :p
[09:38] <elacheche> ltinkl: I think Unity 7 → Ubuntu 14.04
[09:41] <ltinkl> elacheche, dbus-send --session --print-reply --dest=org.gnome.ScreenSaver /org/gnome/ScreenSaver org.gnome.ScreenSaver.GetActive
[09:41] <ltinkl> elacheche, or something similar from C/C++/Python whatever you use
[09:42] <elacheche> thx ltinkl :)
[09:42] <oSoMoN> I’m using a InputDeviceModel with deviceFilter=InputInfo.Keyboard in webbrowser-app to detect physical keyboards, and that works ok, but when running autopilot tests on a phone without a keyboard connected, it lists one: py-evdev-uinput (/dev/input/event7), is that a bug or a feature?
[09:45] <ltinkl> oSoMoN, we have a workaround for this in u8, look here: https://code.launchpad.net/~josharenson/unity8/input-name-filter-proxy/+merge/286684
[09:47] <Saviq> oSoMoN, feature, autopilot registers a keyboard
[09:47] <Saviq> was the reason for bug #1542224
[09:47] <ubot5`> bug 1542224 in Canonical System Image "[regression] OSK suppressed in autopilot tests" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1542224
[09:48] <oSoMoN> ltinkl, Saviq: ok, thanks! I’ll do something similar to unity8 in the browser to ignore that keyboard
[09:48] <Saviq> oSoMoN, plan is to have a ignoredDevices: [] or so on the InputDeviceModel
[09:48] <Saviq> and probably SDK would need a wrapper around it to ignore the common ones like autopilot
[09:48] <oSoMoN> that’d be useful indeed
[11:28] <dandrader> found out the hard way that Repeater will go crazy if you make changes to the model one right after the other. eg: repeater.itemAt(0) will return null even though repeater.cont() returns 6 and you see all those delegates on screen
[12:10] <tsdgeos> dandrader: really? ouch
[12:10] <tsdgeos> dandrader: sounds like a nasty bug
[12:29] <dandrader> tsdgeos, even getting crashes from Repeater accessing some null delegate pointer. it's hell
[12:46] <tsdgeos> dandrader: if you can reproduce with a small exacmple we should totally report a bug
[18:19] <lpotter> so... when can I run unity8 as windows shell on my kids gaming box? :)