[19:13] <Usuario> edbian, im still with visudo /etc/sudoers, the terminal shows usage: visudo c q s ... please write the whole command
[19:13] <Usuario> edbian, im a noob
[19:13] <[[mandrix]]> damn mates.. whatś wrong with ubuntu11.04?
[19:13] <edbian> Usuario: Oh, apparently you need to give a flag.  IDK.  Add Dexter to the admin group.  It's better in multiple ways
[19:14] <Skaperen> mandrix: you tell us
[19:14] <Usuario> edbian, visudo /etc/ sudoers dexter ?
[19:14] <coconutz> in proftpd how can i limit ftp to show all directory and subdirectory but exclude one file from there?
[19:15] <llutz> Usuario: forget visudo,  "sudo adduser dexter admin"
[19:15] <phong_> hi guys, if i want to echo current path
[19:15] <phong_> how would i do that?
[19:15] <edbian> Usuario: No.  That is not correct.  I take it you want to ignore mine and ActionParsnip's advice and edit /etc/sudoers anyway?
[19:15] <phong_> or echo string
[19:15] <edbian> phong_: pwd
[19:15] <phong_> can i do 'echo mystring'
[19:15] <Usuario> edbian, not really, i was sticking to your instructions
[19:15] <edbian> phong_: echo $myString      if myString is a bash variable
[19:15] <phong_> edbian, what about i want to echo my own word
[19:15] <llutz> phong_: echo $PATH
[19:16] <phong_> echo "hello world" ?
[19:16] <edbian> phong_: echo #variableName
[19:16] <phong_> i dont use variable
[19:16] <edbian> phong_: sure, echo 'hello' works fine
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Usuario: if you screw that file, you will cause all manner of issues, you can just add the user to the group and make life a LOT easier. Your choice
[19:16] <phong_> ok thanks
[19:16] <XuMuK> hi there
[19:16] <edbian> Usuario: I suggested twice to add Dexter to the admin group
[19:16] <phong_> single or double quote?
[19:16] <sudokill> Usuario, sudo nano /etc/sudoers      add this line: dexter ALL=(ALL) ALL           press ctrl+X then press Y to save
[19:16] <Usuario> edbian, the I didnt understand
[19:16] <XuMuK> all my links opens in ff and i'd like chrome...
[19:16] <edbian> Usuario: no hard feelings :)
[19:16] <XuMuK> how should i change it?
[19:17] <edbian> sudokill: Usuario ActionParsnip adding Dexter to the admin group is the prefered method
[19:17] <edbian> sudokill: And you should use visudo to avoid syntax errors
[19:17] <BobTheGreat> I just updated to kernel 2.6.39 in order to get my wifi working. Then wifi stopped working completely, and is still in this state when I returned to 2.6.38. WTF I thought the atleast the install/uninstall problem of installing and uninstalling stuff was solved. Why is this so messy. Do I have to reinstall everything now?
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> sudokill: also visudo should be used, not nano
[19:18] <sudokill> same thing
[19:18] <edbian> BobTheGreat: What card do you have?
[19:18] <sudokill> visudo is safer
[19:18] <Usuario> please, not so fast, I can hardly follow you all: I have just typed usermod -a -G admin dexter, now what?
[19:18] <phong_> is ubuntu better then MAc os X?
[19:18] <sudokill> but nano is fine if ur not a complete idiot
[19:18] <edbian> sudokill: Yes. visudo is safer, that's why you should use it.
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> BobTheGreat: no, just boot to the official kernel and remove the kernel you added and remove the ppa
[19:18] <edbian> sudokill: It doesn't take a complete idiot to make a typo
[19:18] <BobTheGreat> rtl8191se
[19:18] <sudokill> ur changing one line
[19:18] <edbian> phong_: That's opinion but.  yes
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> phong_: better is an opinion, so never concrete
[19:18] <sudokill> all u have to do is read it
[19:19] <BobTheGreat> ActionParsnip, did that. problem worse then before.
[19:19] <nit-wit> phong_, that would be a personal preference don't you think?
[19:19] <phong_> yeah
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> sudokill: why mess a file when there is a group to easily get access, the user currently cannot edit it as they aren't able to use sudo....
[19:19] <edbian> BobTheGreat: What card do you use?
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> phong_: it's as intelligent as asking if red is better than blue
[19:19] <sudokill> Action u could do it from another user
[19:20] <threexk> how do you restore gconf settings to their defaults?  I accidentally clicked some things
[19:20] <BobTheGreat> edbian, it is a realtek in an asus u31. rtl8191se
[19:20] <Usuario> sudokill, I accessed the sudoers file, where do I have to paste that line? bottom?
[19:20] <sudokill> yes anywhere
[19:20] <sudokill> on a new line
[19:20] <Usuario> sudokill Im writting it right below root
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> sudokill: true, considering the clear level of ability, wouldn't adding a user to a group be more appropriate than having them manually edit VERY sensitive files?
[19:20] <BobTheGreat> uname -k now says: #42-Ubuntu <somedate>
[19:21] <Usuario> sudokill, file name to write same one?
[19:21] <sudokill> Usuario, tell me what u wrote before u save it
[19:21] <BobTheGreat> edbian, what do you mean by card?
[19:21] <threexk> nevermind, I figured out how to view a history
[19:22] <Usuario> sudokill, waht yopu told me to: dexter  ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[19:22] <sudokill> Usuario, yes just do ctrl+x then press y then press enter
[19:22] <edbian> BobTheGreat: The wifi card.  (your answer was sufficient).  I don't think i can help
[19:22] <BobTheGreat> ok
[19:22] <sudokill> Usuario, yea thats fine save it as same name
[19:22] <Usuario> ok, done, nopw what?
[19:22]  * ActionParsnip shrugs
[19:22] <edbian> Usuario: Now dexter can sudo
[19:22] <BobTheGreat> how do I atleast have the system return to the state it was in before installing the new kernel?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> BobTheGreat: I told you already...
[19:24] <BobTheGreat> ActionParsnip, I guess I did that, but now wifi doesn't even list ap's.
[19:24] <Usuario> edbian sudokill  moving to sudo chmod 755 /home/dexter
[19:24] <BobTheGreat> how do I check the version of the kernel I am using?
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> BobTheGreat: uname -a
[19:25] <edbian> Usuario: k
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> BobTheGreat: you will need to reboot to the older kernel
[19:25] <BobTheGreat> it says 2.6.38-8-generic
[19:25] <Usuario> edbian, I dont recall if you have been helping me with my ICEauthority problem
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> BobTheGreat: that is the official natty kernel
[19:26] <edbian> Usuario: I was not but I suspect that the problem is that the file is not owned by dexter.  dexter probably did not need to become a sudoer
[19:26] <BobTheGreat> yes, but before I changed and reverted the change, wifi listed ap's. Now it doesn't.
[19:27] <inso> Anyone here who's got some experience with Code::Blocks? I can
[19:27] <Usuario> edbian, rebooting
[19:27] <inso> I can't find a setting
[19:27] <edbian> Usuario: ok
[19:29] <xskydevilx> When I try plugging in my Bluetooth stick the Bluetooth icon is grayed out and if I go to preferences and click on "Turn On Bluetooth" it doesn't do anything, after multiple attempts. Any ideas, guys?
[19:31] <Usuario> edbian sudokill more help needed, I still get the f*cking ICEauthority problem, but at least I can see my ubuntu GUI, now I am prompted to enter a password to unlock my login keyring, because the password I use to log in the computer no longer matches that of my login keyring
[19:32] <dwightschrute> Hello guys! In 10.04 I had the option to open the windows that were open at the time of the last shutdown/reboot but I can't find that option in 11.04!?  There always the tinkering, halfsolved problem. Even windows XP is lighyears ahead. Never had an unproblematic wifi connection under linux. I seems like the install/uninstall are not consistent, ever. The fresh install is nice, but once you start adjusting it to your needs it quickly turns to unreliable, ad-hoc, bullshit. Had to be said.
[19:33] <lolen> 123
[19:33] <EvoGamer> BobTheGreat, no it didn't have to be said
[19:33] <Usuario> edbian dexter I guess, I dont see that file, I have tried to unlock yhis password pop up with both passwords, but none works
[19:33] <llutz> Usuario: "ls -l ~/.ICEauthority"
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> linux rox
[19:34] <edbian> Usuario: I'm not sure how to fix the keyring thing.  First things first.  ls -l ~/.ICEauthority
[19:34] <BobTheGreat> :) it did. linux people need to fix their focus if there will ever be a year of linux desktop.
[19:34] <IdleOne> !language | BobTheGreat
[19:34] <edbian> llutz: darn!  Bet me to it...
[19:34] <EvoGamer> ActionParsnip, I solved my issue with help from the #gentoo guys
[19:34] <dougl> the red elvis
[19:35] <edbian> dwightschrute: using unity?
[19:35] <EvoGamer> ActionParsnip, for reference the solution was to pipe back to dd after running through bzip2
[19:35] <edbian> BobTheGreat: If you want help ask for it.  If you want to complain / debate go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:35] <dwightschrute> edbian: nope, using gnome2 classic
[19:35] <BlouBlou> BobTheGreat: you have any question? we don't want to read that nonsenses
[19:35] <edbian> dwightschrute: System -> Admin -> Session ?
[19:36] <ranjan> BobTheGreat, ask the hardware vendors to give the details of hardware instead of burrying it in their ass. You will see drivers better than the proprietary evolving
[19:36] <dwightschrute> edbian: there is no admin -> session in 11.04, but I remember that there was one in 10.04 and that's where I had enabled the option to reopen the windows
[19:37] <BobTheGreat> BlouBlou, yes actually I did. How do I restore kernel/wifi to "factory settings" in 11.04?
[19:37] <edbian> dwightschrute: Yeah i'm on an 11.04 machine right now...  Hang on lemme research
[19:37] <Steve^> Can anyone recommend a tool that tells you the best wifi channel?
[19:38] <BlouBlou> BobTheGreat: reinstalling it?
[19:38] <Usuario> edbian, crap, I can only see some parts of my machine, and it has very mimited functionality: none of my menus is accesible, but I was able to log in as dexter: I have tried to open a terminal from WITHIN ubunt GUI, but I cannot, I guess I have to reboot and use the recovery mode again
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> steve: wififofum
[19:38] <Usuario> limited*
[19:38] <steph7> built in camera 046d:0896 Logitech, Inc. OrbiCam not works in natty...any ideas?
[19:38] <BobTheGreat> BlouBlou, "it"?
[19:38] <toad`> what is that open source software for windows for burning ISO's
[19:38] <edbian> Usuario: sounds good. we need to see ls -l ~/.ICEauthority
[19:38] <IdleOne> !burn
[19:38] <Steve^> lotuspsychje, for windows mobile??
[19:38] <BlouBlou> BobTheGreat: what did you change in kernel? what's your exactly problem?
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> steve: yes
[19:39] <sudokill> his attitude
[19:39] <robrt`> toad`, CDBurnerXP?
[19:39] <edbian> dwightschrute: System -> Preferences -> Startup?  What's in there?
[19:39] <Steve^> lotuspsychje, how about a linux app, given that this is #ubuntu
[19:39] <robrt`> There's another one that I can't recall the name of..
[19:39] <sudokill> toad, imgburn and infrarecorder are the best 2
[19:40] <sudokill> imgburn has the most options
[19:40] <robrt`> Right, imgburn, that's the one :-)
[19:40] <BobTheGreat> BlouBlou, I got rid of the 2.6.39, but wifi still doesn't show list of ap's. Apparently it is no longer working. Also, I have not changed anything about wifi, just installed 2.6.39 and uninstalled it, and did a update-grub.
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> steve: kismet
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> brb
[19:41] <dwightschrute> ed1703: I don't have Prefs -> Startup, but I do have Prefs -> Startup applications which is just the programs/daemons started at boot
[19:41] <BlouBlou> BobTheGreat: then what's the problem?
[19:41] <dwightschrute> edbian: I don't have Prefs -> Startup, but I do have Prefs -> Startup applications which is just the programs/daemons started at boot
[19:41] <edbian> dwightschrute: Trying to recall the GUI here.  There are no tabs there?
[19:42] <dwightschrute> edbian: no, no tabs
[19:43] <BobTheGreat> BlouBlou, "wifi still doesn't show list of ap's. Apparently it is no longer working." Prior to the kernel change/rechange, wifi worked but not with wpa. Not it is totalled. For all I know alot of things got broken by changing the kernel back and forth.
[19:43] <edbian> dwightschrute: bad news:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742263
[19:43] <toad`> rob
[19:44] <toad`> sudaya,
[19:44] <toad`> sudokill,
[19:44] <toad`> you're right
[19:44] <sudokill> what
[19:44] <toad`> infrarecorder is it
[19:44] <BlouBlou> BobTheGreat: then install the maverick's kernel, it works fine for natty (I tried it and no problems)
[19:44] <sudokill> r u on win7?
[19:44] <toad`> currently
[19:44] <toad`> I need to securely delete
[19:44] <toad`> my two laptops
[19:44] <sudokill> it has a built in iso burner
[19:44] <toad`> I has rootkits
[19:44] <toad`> etc...
[19:44] <FloodBot1> toad`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:44] <Usuario> edbian, have I missed some steps: Im in the recovery mode terminal as root, ls -l ~/.ICEauthority No such file or directory, I also cd ed to that directory, same command, same answer
[19:44] <sudokill> toad whats that to do with iso burn?
[19:45] <toad`> I need to burn dran to a cd
[19:45] <sudokill> burn whatever to cd
[19:45] <toad`> I'm wondering tho
[19:45] <sudokill> use the built in iso burner, infrarecorder or imgburn all do samre thing
[19:45] <toad`> I have two partitions dual boot
[19:45] <toad`> do I have to secure delete from within ubuntu
[19:45] <toad`> to take care of its partition? Or would dran take care of the entire thing?
[19:45] <sudokill> what do u dual obot ubuntu and win7?
[19:45] <edbian> Usuario: You're missing the .ICEauthority file entirey?
[19:46] <Usuario> edbian, afraid so
[19:46] <toad`> yea
[19:46] <toad`> 10.04
[19:46] <sudokill> i dont even know what dran is
[19:46] <sudokill> tbh
[19:46] <Usuario> edbian QWIA
[19:46] <toad`> Boot N Nuke
[19:46] <Usuario> edbian, WAIT
[19:46] <BobTheGreat> BlouBlou, don't you get it: My computer is, according to versions and packages, actsactly in the state it was, but now it is working less good. I would very much like to fix the problem introduced by changing kernels before I change to another one.
[19:46] <Usuario> edbian, im definetively a noob
[19:46] <edbian> Usuario: waiting...
[19:46] <Usuario> lol
[19:46] <toad`> sudokill,
[19:46] <sudokill> toad, u can boot into an ubuntu livecd and use gparted to delete the partition
[19:46] <toad`> dban
[19:46] <sudokill> or format it
[19:46] <toad`> sorry
[19:46] <toad`> dban.org
[19:47] <sudokill> idk whatever it is its not needed
[19:47] <BobTheGreat> nevermind, I google, read, waste my time on this BS.
[19:47] <Usuario> hihihi100 (of the group) hihihi100 owns .ICEauthority
[19:47] <Usuario> edbian hihihi100 (of the group) hihihi100 owns .ICEauthority
[19:47] <toad`> its needed for windows
[19:47] <toad`> its just quick tho
[19:47] <toad`> convienant
[19:47] <toad`> you just stick the cd in
[19:47] <FloodBot1> toad`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:47] <sudokill> toad thats for secure delete from what i read, just format it from a livecd when the drives not mounted
[19:48] <sudokill> or download partedmagic and burn it to disk its useful to have
[19:48] <toad`> so dban
[19:48] <edbian> Usuario: are you logged in as dexter right now?  (is there a user named hihihi100)
[19:48] <toad`> but
[19:48] <sudokill> has all sort of tools
[19:48] <Usuario> edbian, sudokill, hihihi100 owns the ICEauthority file, should I change that to dexter of the group dexter?
[19:48] <toad`> I want to delete both partitions
[19:48] <toad`> would gparted take care of both
[19:48] <toad`> win/linux
[19:48] <FloodBot1> toad`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:48] <Usuario> edbian, I am root
[19:48] <toad`> I want to nuke it all and just start over
[19:48] <sudokill> toad, delete them both from a live disc thats all u have to do
[19:48] <toad`> ok
[19:48] <Usuario> edbian root@hihihi100-laptop
[19:48] <toad`> lemme get my disc real quick
[19:48] <sudokill> toad, all it requires is literally deleting the 2 partitions
[19:49] <dwightschrute> edbian: your google fu is better than mine, anyway, that is a very bad news, thanks for taking your time to help!
[19:49] <sudokill> no need for a "nuke" program
[19:49] <Usuario> edbian, yes, there are 2 users, it seems, dexter and hihihi100 (odd)
[19:49] <edbian> Usuario: You're logged in as root then
[19:49] <Usuario> edbian, yes
[19:49] <edbian> dwightschrute: sure :)
[19:49] <toad`> sudokill,
[19:50] <toad`> can I use the LiveCD to formate a windows machine?
[19:50] <toad`> Ive never used linux to formate or erase anything
[19:50] <toad`> I need to do a secure delete tho
[19:50] <toad`> for my shit is compramised
[19:50] <edbian> Usuario: run this: chown dexter:dexter /home/dexter/.ICEauthority
[19:50] <sudokill> toad, download partedmagic (google it) burn it to disk, boot into parted magic, run gparted, delete the 2 partitions they will merge into one, then ur done
[19:50] <Usuario> edbian, given that im root, shouldnt I sudo?
[19:51] <sudokill> toad, i say partedmagic because its good to have a disk of it at hand
[19:51] <edbian> Usuario: Given that you're root you do not need to sudo (that is the whole point of sudo)
[19:51] <_SnipeR_PvP> âñåì ïðèâåò
[19:51] <`alz1> ïðèâåò! ÷å íîâåíüêîãî ? _SnipeR_PvP ;-)
[19:51] <shababhsiddique> is there anyonw who use banglalion in bangladesh?>
[19:51] <Usuario> edbian, im wont repeat that im a noob
[19:51] <shababhsiddique> is there anyonw who use banglalion in ubuntu
[19:51] <Usuario> i*
[19:51] <edbian> Usuario: :)
[19:52] <sudokill> Usuario, you never need to use sudo if ur logged in as root or used somehting like sudo -i
[19:52]  * shababhsiddique banglaion usb sux on ubuntu
[19:52] <_SnipeR_PvP> ëþäè à ïî÷åìó ÿ ñ ýòîãî ñåðâåðà çàõîäèòü ìîãó à ñ operanet íåìîãó????
[19:52] <sudokill> Usuario, when ur logged in as root you dont ever have to enter ur password for anything, u can run what u like no need for sudo
[19:52] <BKTech86> hi, I've made a startup usb disk with 11.04 32-bit iso but when I try to boot up it says "firmware error b43... something" and then i get a frozen screen with white/black blocks
[19:52] <babalu> does anyone know how to install skypemate on ubuntu 10.10?
[19:52] <Usuario> edbian sudokill done, and checked, dexter of the group dexter owns the ICEauthority file
[19:53] <sudokill> Usuario, hence the reason logging in as root is bad for normal use
[19:53] <_SnipeR_PvP> ààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààà
[19:53] <_SnipeR_PvP> ààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààààà
[19:53] <FloodBot1> _SnipeR_PvP: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:53] <_SnipeR_PvP> ààààààààààà
[19:53] <_SnipeR_PvP> ààààà
[19:53] <_SnipeR_PvP> ààààààà
[19:53] <Usuario> edbian, reboot?
[19:53] <_SnipeR_PvP> àààààààààààà
[19:53] <edbian> Usuario: log out and try to log in as dexter (reboot if you're in recovery mode)
[19:54] <sudokill> _SnipeR_PvP, b quiet
[19:54] <Usuario> edbian, rebooting
[19:54] <BKTech86> hi, I've made a startup usb disk with 11.04 32-bit iso but when I try to boot up it says "firmware error b43... something" and then i get a frozen screen with white/black blocks -- can anyone help please?
[19:55] <SirDilon> Funny little problem here, I'm installing java using the apt-get command in command line, and I got to the terms. Now, I cannot accept those. Kinda funny, but..
[19:55] <sudokill> SirDilon, what do u mean
[19:56] <Cheri703> SirDilon: try tab and enter, you probably can't click on the ok
[19:56] <sudokill> ah
[19:56] <JPP> BKTech86: Have you tried using a regular CD instead of your USB flash?
[19:56] <BKTech86> JPP: no
[19:56] <BKTech86> JPP: shouldn't a usb stick work ??
[19:56] <Lobo29> SirDilon, i believe you can use Synaptic package manager instead to load java
[19:57] <sudokill> BKTech86, try a cd anyway
[19:57] <sudokill> if it works then problem solved
[19:57] <JPP> BKTech86: It's the possibility of something being corrupted or the computer having issues with the USB stick. I've personally foud that CD's work a lot better for myself on multiple PC's.
[19:57] <Usuario> edbian, I still get the ICEauthority could not be updated popup, my machine has like 2% functionality logging in as dexter
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> SirDilon: http://www.multimediaboom.com/how-to-install-java-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal-ppa/  I use that
[19:57] <sudokill> JPP I agree u cant go wrong with CD/DVD most of the time
[19:57] <edbian> Usuario: ls -l /home/dexter/.ICEauthority
[19:57] <SirDilon> Ok. Will try that now.
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> SirDilon: use TAB and ENTER to accept the terms
[19:58] <edbian> Usuario: Let's look that the read / write permissions are correct now
[19:58] <BKTech86> JPP: the only blanks i have are in pretty bad condition and i'm not able to get more atm
[19:58] <tjiggi_fo> BKTech86, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[19:58] <SirDilon> Tab and enter actually worked. Thanks!
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> SirDilon: np :D
[19:59] <Cheri703> SirDilon: a lot of people run into that :)
[19:59] <JPP> tjiggi_fo: surely a problem with WIFI firmware wouldn't stop a PC booting into an installer?
[19:59] <edbian> BKTech86: do you have a BCM43XX card?
[19:59] <sudokill> SirDilon, I remember hwen i first started i didnt know what do do for those lol
[19:59] <nightcrow> BKTech86: the cursed broadcom! :)
[19:59] <nightcrow> non-free :)
[19:59] <sudokill> cursed wifi
[19:59] <Usuario> edbian, I really appreciate your help, but I think I may have given you some mistaken information: I just logged in as dexter, but the "about me" icons top right it appeared as dexter(hihihi100)
[19:59] <tjiggi_fo> BKTech86, though I'm not sure why a wireless driver would affect your display
[20:00] <Lobo29> Question, Can I ask about server issue here or is that another channel ?
[20:00] <tjiggi_fo> JPP, agreed
[20:00] <nit-wit> Lobo29, not sure but there is also #ubuntu-server.;)
[20:00] <JPP> Lobo29: This covers ubuntu, so i guess you could ask here. But the guys at #ubuntu-server might know more about your problem.
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> Lobo29: sure
[20:01] <Usuario> edbian which shouldnt be of importance, I also tried to log in with the other username, that gave me 0% functionality
[20:02] <edbian> Usuario: There are two names that the system associates with each user.  One is the 'real' name.  that is someting like Robert.  Then there is the user name (usually something shorter) like bob   the username is the name the system uses most of the time. it must be all lower case.  The 'real' name is used occasionally and never for security.  dexter, (I think) is the 'real name'
[20:02] <Lobo29> Ok, I'll  give you a shot at it :P  Installed 11.04 and finished fine on a Dell 1650 server, but now i get Cannot display video mode, I need to edit Grub to fix, but how ?
[20:02] <sudokill> Usuario, type whoami
[20:03] <nit-wit> BKTech86, how did you load the usb qwhat app was used?
[20:03] <sudokill> itl be the same as the login nanem lol
[20:03] <nit-wit> *what
[20:03] <[[mandrix]]> damn ubuntu 11.04 64 arch
[20:03] <Usuario> sudokill, im root, but Im in the recovery mode terminal as root
[20:03] <sudokill> didnt u make the user "sexter"?
[20:03] <[[mandrix]]> can finish my installation
[20:03] <sudokill> dexter
[20:03] <sudokill> oops
[20:03] <[[mandrix]]> cant finish my installation
[20:03] <sudokill> lol
[20:03] <JPP> sudokill: lol.
[20:03] <edbian> hahahah sexter...
[20:04] <sudokill> :P
[20:04] <[[mandrix]]> yoh... guys,, any issues with 64bit on the latest release?
[20:04] <Usuario> sudokill, yes, I can also change to dexter in the recovery mode terminal
[20:04] <[[mandrix]]> using ext4
[20:04] <sudokill> Usuario, what I mean is, didn't you make the user account, called dexter?
[20:04] <JPP> [[mandrix]]: I think it installed to my VMware fine, but that doesn't exactly prove anything in the physical computing world...
[20:06] <Usuario> sudokill, I changed my username to dexter (that was my initial idea) 2 days ago, and moved all data from hihihi100 (old username) to dexter (new username) or so I thought, It seems in the process I f*ccked up
[20:06] <JPP> Lobo29: Since no-one has answered you for a while, maybe try #ubuntu-server :)
[20:06] <sudokill> Usuario, what the home directory?
[20:06] <Usuario> sudokill, home dir is dexter, hihihi100 no longer exists
[20:06] <Lobo29> Yes, TY JPP
[20:06] <Usuario> sudokill, all my files are present in the dexter dir (home/dexter) no data loss
[20:07] <JPP> Usuario: I take it you have tried "chown -R dexter:dexter /home/dexter" ?
[20:07] <BKTech86> i can't install 11.04 because of my wireless card:  The error is b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file "b43/ucod16_mime.fw" not foundturbo disabled
[20:07] <Usuario> jpp, yes
[20:07] <sudokill> Usuario, ok. meh idk what to say ive only ever used 1 user no experience in changing stuff
[20:07] <BKTech86> i dont understand why my wireless card has anything to do with installing ubuntu
[20:07] <JPP> Usuario: So what happens when you boot up? it doesn't work at all?
[20:07] <BKTech86> BKTech86: usually I just download the driver once I have ubuntu installed
[20:08] <sudokill> BKTech86, it shouldnt, it shoud only mean connecting to net or not
[20:08] <JPP> BKTech86: Remove the card anyway and try installing ubuntu?
[20:08] <BKTech86> sudokill: it's a laptop I can't open it up right now
[20:08] <BKTech86> the message also says:
[20:08] <Usuario> jpp, i cannot access any of the menus, dont see the backscreen, cannot use internet (but my machine recognizes the local wifi)
[20:09] <BKTech86> go to wireless.kernel.org or something
[20:09] <JPP> Usuario: so it logs on to desktop okay?
[20:09] <BKTech86> "download the correct firmware for this driver version"
[20:09] <munson> in 11.04 is there a fix for the Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[20:09] <sudokill> BKTech86, i dont even know how far u r in installer
[20:09] <sudokill> BKTech86, so it is the wireless then
[20:09] <JPP> sudokill: i think his machine hangs while booting the installer.
[20:09] <BKTech86> sudokill: you know when you boot up and u see the davinci symbol
[20:09] <sudokill> BKTech86, can u get into the livecd or not?
[20:09] <Usuario> jpp http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10877229#post10877229
[20:09] <BKTech86> sudokill: i hit enter, English, Install ubuntu, it says 11.04
[20:10] <edbian> BKTech86: You have two problems.  One is your wifi card the other is your not being able to boot / log in / whatever.  I sincerely doubt that the wifi card is causing the second issue.  Fix the second issue first.  Can you describe it again to me please?
[20:10] <sudokill> ok
[20:10] <munson> no audio off that card..its with the realtek chipset
[20:10] <BKTech86> edbian: i dont have a problem booting the live usb
[20:10] <Usuario> jpp, ignore dexter is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported, thats been solved
[20:10] <BKTech86> edbian: it just crashes while trying to install ubuntu
[20:10] <sudokill> BKTech86, boot into the livecd and do the wifi driver thing
[20:10] <sudokill> whatever its saying to do
[20:10] <sudokill> then try install
[20:11] <BKTech86> sudokill: when the error happens, I don't have a chance to do anything
[20:11] <saulo> Hello! I have this bug. Somebody has a fix to this? Like a manual login? I have another machine who have the .ubuntuone folder and was working before system upgrade, and this machine os working now. But I have a netbook and nee sync the files. If I can do this manually could be great!  The bug<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:11] <sudokill> i dont know anything about wifi though
[20:11] <saulo> [Bug 745540] Method "CreateItem" with signature	"a{sv}(oayay)b"	on interface	"org.freedesktop.Secret.Collection" doesn't exist
[20:11] <sudokill> BKTech86, i thought it only errored on the installer?
[20:11] <BKTech86> well how could i install a driver before i've even installed the OS it doesnt make snese
[20:11] <edbian> BKTech86: You haven't installed yet?  Are those errors from the live USB?
[20:11] <BKTech86> edbian: exactly
[20:11] <sudokill> u might be able to from livecd
[20:11] <edbian> BKTech86: You can install the driver to the live USB
[20:11] <sudokill> dno if u need reboot
[20:11] <sudokill> idk sounds dodgy tho
[20:12] <sudokill> why do so many people have problems with wifi
[20:12] <BKTech86> edbian: it sounds like i'll have to.  i'll try to check out that link from the picture i took
[20:12] <draconus01> Good afternoon
[20:12] <evildaemon> Audio won't work from recovery prompt, pulseauidio is running
[20:12] <sudokill> lol
[20:12] <edbian> BKTech86: Ubuntu live images crash if there is bad hardware or a bad image on the USB/CD.  Try re-creating the USB key
[20:12] <JPP> Usuario: have you tried CHmoding your home dir?
[20:12] <JPP> (as root)
[20:12] <edbian> sudokill: Because the firmware for the cards is proprietary and you have to manually install it yourself for legal reasons
[20:12] <evildaemon> Any other daemons required?
[20:12] <BKTech86> edbian: well its telling me the wifi card is the problem so i'm going to try that first
[20:13] <sudokill> edbian, i know but it just causes so many problems
[20:13] <draconus01> I set up a raid 10 using this tutorial: http://www.howtoforge.com/install-ubuntu-with-software-raid-10
[20:13] <edbian> BKTech86: The wifi card will not work.  I'm very familiar with those errors.  That is not the reason it is not booting
[20:13] <edbian> sudokill: It is annoying
[20:13] <draconus01> And now I am getting an error 15 in grub on boot
[20:13] <sudokill> yea
[20:13] <evildaemon> ..............
[20:13] <sudokill> wifi is like the most talked about problem
[20:13] <Usuario> jpp, I decided to try the command you posted again (it may be my fault, but it could be possible that I tried that command, but failed to write it correctly, as of now, I have copied it, and my machine is waiting
[20:13] <sudokill> on linux
[20:13] <draconus01> help would be greatly appreciated. Using 11.04
[20:13] <Usuario> jpp, does that mean is it actually chwoning the whole dir?
[20:14] <JPP> -R means the directory and everything underneath, yes
[20:14] <evildaemon> It would seem that anytime I ask a question NOT related to wifi no one knows the answer
[20:14] <olskolirc> Is Ubuntu a linux system or something else?
[20:14] <sudokill> evildaemon, why do u need audio from recovery prompt?
[20:14] <sudokill> olskolirc, its a linux distro
[20:14] <edbian> It seems to be that anytime I ask about anything no one knows the answer
[20:14] <sudokill> of course
[20:15] <evildaemon> Just wanted to run without X, a whimsical thing.
[20:15] <olskolirc> those knuckle heads on the Ubuntu page on facebook is saying its not linux it's its own system
[20:15] <olskolirc> go smack them
[20:15] <sudokill> evil, why dont u install arch or some other distro
[20:15] <olskolirc> they are confusing newbies
[20:15] <sudokill> olskolirc, people will always tell u linux is the kernel
[20:16] <JPP> evildaemon: ubuntu server does not include X by default. And debian allows you to deselect GUI in the installer and run with just X.
[20:16] <olskolirc> it is isn't it sudokill
[20:16] <sudokill> olskolirc, but ubuntu is linux all "linux" distros are
[20:16] <olskolirc> one guy said its not linux its "gnu"
[20:16] <evildaemon> I know, I don't have a problem with X, I'm just curious why audio won't work in recovery prompt.
[20:16] <Usuario> jpp, how much time can it last?
[20:16] <sudokill> linux and gnu
[20:16] <sudokill> linux is the kernel bit
[20:16] <evildaemon> Well, they're half right sorta, lol.
[20:16] <JPP> normally if something is chowned it'll last until the system changes it.
[20:17] <draconus01> the raid array is active and syncing as it should be, just grub doesn't find /
[20:17] <JPP> make sure you run the chown command as root.
[20:17] <cutout> Hi, I installed miscrosoft fonts from software center but am unable to find the fonts in firefox or liber office
[20:17] <JPP> draconus01: GRUB doesn't really like software RAID.
[20:17] <draconus01> I am aware, but this tutorial makes me think it is possible
[20:17] <JPP> is the /boot partition on the RAID?
[20:17] <andrea> \o
[20:18] <draconus01> no
[20:18] <draconus01> it is outside the raid
[20:18] <draconus01> if you check that tutorial link
[20:18] <sudokill> cutout, im not sure have u logged out/in?
[20:18] <draconus01> I set it up like that verbatum, save for the fact that the boot partition is 100mb instead of the 50mb the tutorial stated.
[20:18] <draconus01> http://www.howtoforge.com/install-ubuntu-with-software-raid-10
[20:18] <cutout> sudokill: yes, should I restart
[20:19] <draconus01> mdadm --detail /dev/md0 shows that the raid array is active and happy
[20:19] <sudokill> cutout, it wont hurt but ive got ms fonts installed and can select arial times new roman etc in FF
[20:19] <JPP> draconus01: what does GRUB say?
[20:19] <draconus01> error 15
[20:19] <sudokill> cutout, i always reboot if i have problem with anything just to rule it out
[20:19] <cutout> sudokill: but i cant
[20:19] <draconus01> which is cant find / dir
[20:19] <draconus01> if I recall
[20:20] <BKTech86> so how can I install the proprietary driver for my wifi card to my live usb so that I can install ubuntu?
[20:20] <JPP> is it possible to tell us what your boot line is? i think if you hit E on an option it shows it.
[20:20] <sudokill> BKTech86, boot into it as usual and install it
[20:20] <Saalko> Hi everyone. I have a proplem with the program "rarcrack" http://rarcrack.sourceforge.net/ I installed the programm, but everytime when I try to execute the programm. It says that the file didn't exist or I don't have the permission. I already set the permission per "chmod +x. So the file is executable.
[20:21] <evildaemon> BKTech86, use an ethernet cord to get the firmware.
[20:21] <BKTech86> sudokill: but it wont let me get fully into live boot
[20:21] <sudokill> saalko try crark
[20:21] <sudokill> BKTech86, i thought u got as far as the installer?
[20:21] <Usuario> I have executed a command in the terminal, and after pressing return, I only see the text of the previous commands and the cursos, tiling cursor, is that normal? I assume it means that the last command is still being executed, isnt it? Or am I wasting my time?
[20:21] <Juest> hi, does everything gets migrated when i upgrade to natty?
[20:21] <BKTech86> sudokill: no i got the main menu wher eyou have the options : check disk, install ubuntu, etc.  I select install ubuntu -> crash
[20:21] <sudokill> Usuario, normally means its busy
[20:22] <Usuario> sudokill ah, thats good news
[20:22] <evildaemon> Usuario, it may mean you didn't finish the command
[20:22] <BKTech86> sudokill: i need to install the driver directly onto the usb somehow
[20:22] <evildaemon> Or that it's busy
[20:22] <Juest> ummm
[20:22] <Usuario> good good
[20:22] <Juest> does everything gets migrated when i upgrade to natty?
[20:22] <Juest> ...
[20:22] <Usuario> im still chowning to dexter, which means I didnt chowned correctly before
[20:22] <evildaemon> AFAIK
[20:22] <sudokill> good luck upgrading it broke everything for me
[20:22] <Juest> lol
[20:23] <sudokill> broke nvidia and my network
[20:23] <Juest> really?
[20:23] <sudokill> to list 2
[20:23] <evildaemon> I agree with sudokill, lol
[20:23] <evildaemon> My next installs probably gonna be arch, fedora, or gentoo
[20:23] <sudokill> arch is a good choice :)
[20:23] <Juest> i have hicolor-icon-theme broken now, upgrading to natty fixes it?
[20:23] <draconus01> any idead?
[20:23] <draconus01> ideas?
[20:23] <sudokill> go arch and u wont use anythingelse
[20:23] <novodinia> What is the process of downloading a package with its source using apt-get source <package> and then compiling and installing the package? apt-get source --compile <package>? Where is the .deb file if this is the correct method?
[20:23] <evildaemon> I'm leaning towards fedora TBH.
[20:23] <Juest> ummmm
[20:23] <sudokill> Juest, no point upgrading to fix an icon set
[20:24] <BlouBlou> sudokill: both are known problems
[20:24] <sudokill> BlouBlou, ??
[20:24] <Juest> does every package gets upgraaded
[20:24] <Juest> ???
[20:24] <sudokill> BlouBlou, the nvidia and network thing?
[20:24] <BlouBlou> network has solved in a debian patch, it will be included in few days. Nvidia is in launchpad as high
[20:24] <BlouBlou> sudokill: yes ^
[20:24] <Usuario> its been 5 minutes already
[20:24] <sudokill> ah ok
[20:24] <BlouBlou> has been*
[20:24] <sudokill> Usuario, im not sure what ur even doing but it may be wrong
[20:24] <evildaemon> What was the command?
[20:25] <evildaemon> If it's something like dd, that could take an hour.....or two
[20:25] <Juest> BlouBlou: umm, does upgrading to natty migrates everything?
[20:25] <sudokill> Juest, yes it tells u what it wont
[20:25] <Usuario> sudokill, the last command I executed is chown -R dexter:dexter /home/dexter and IT JUST ENDED!!
[20:25] <sudokill> ok
[20:25] <BlouBlou> Juest: what do you mean by "migrate"?
[20:25] <Usuario> kpp, the last command I executed is chown -R dexter:dexter /home/dexter and IT JUST ENDED!!
[20:25] <evildaemon> That makes sense
[20:25] <Usuario> jpp, the last command I executed is chown -R dexter:dexter /home/dexter and IT JUST ENDED!!
[20:25] <evildaemon> stop spamming
[20:25] <sudokill> Juest when u upgrade it'll upgrade and let u know whats gona be removed or changed
[20:26] <Usuario> sorry
[20:26] <BlouBlou> evildaemon: s/spam/flood
[20:26] <Juest> !repeat | Usuario
[20:26] <Juest> !spam | Usuario
[20:26] <JPP> Usuario: "just ended"?
[20:26] <Juest> !troll | Usuario
[20:26] <Juest> -.-
[20:26] <Cheri703> I think he did it because he typed the person's name wrong, and wanted them to highlight
[20:26] <Cheri703> he's not trolling
[20:26] <BlouBlou> Juest: he isn't doing it, please stop
[20:26] <Cheri703> as far as I can tell...
[20:26] <draconus01> perhaps sda1 which is the boot partition is not pointing to sde1 which is the "array" and the / dir
[20:26] <Juest> ok
[20:26] <Usuario> yes, which I assume means that every file and folder inside /home/dexter is now chowned to dexter:dexter
[20:26] <draconus01> how do I get into sda1 and check that from the live cd?
[20:27] <Juest> BlouBlou: migration =all the configuration remains
[20:27] <BlouBlou> Juest: Yes
[20:27] <draconus01> I know I need to modify the boot.cfg file
[20:27] <draconus01> if that is in fact the case
[20:27] <Usuario> edbian, jpp, should I reboot now?
[20:27] <JPP> Usuario: Try it :)
[20:27] <sudokill> Usuario, reboot whenever u want
[20:27] <sudokill> takes what 20 secs
[20:28] <Juest> BlouBlou: well, everything remains? and packages gets updated? even users? ummm, does updating fixes hicolor-icon-theme?
[20:28] <Juest> i have it broken
[20:28] <pr0ton> hi
[20:28] <pr0ton> has anybody used ubuntu as a streaming server?
[20:28] <Usuario> will it finally work now?
[20:28] <pr0ton> i want to stream videos on my computer to my ipad and android
[20:28] <sudokill> Huest yes everything remains thats why its an upgrade not clean install
[20:28] <sudokill> Juest*
[20:28] <pr0ton> both are jailbroken/rooted, so i can install extra apps if needed
[20:28] <Juest> AH
[20:29] <Juest> thanks....
[20:29] <Juest> bye
[20:29] <BlouBlou> Juest: I don't know if it will fix it or not. and yes, all packages will be updated to a newer version of itselfs. Configurations shoudln't fail
[20:29] <Juest> going to natty
[20:29] <evildaemon> pr0ton, I haven't personally but I'm sure that you can.
[20:29] <sudokill> Juest, if anythings not compatible or needs to be removed the upgrader will elt u know
[20:29] <KaiDOg> I forgot I had this here. I'm guilty of idling! Noes!!!!11
[20:29] <rawsupport> hi! I try to access from ubuntu 11.04 a smb share on a windows 7 pro machine. I try smbclient -L //IP_of_my_win7_system I always get protocol negotiation failed : ERRnomem .... Any ideas?
[20:29] <pr0ton> evildaemon, sure you can, wanted to know which servers people use?
[20:29] <Juest> maverick meekrat --->> natty nattowal!!!!!! yayayaya here we go :Dç
[20:29] <Juest> cyaa
[20:29] <sudokill> good luck
[20:30] <sudokill> c u in a bit
[20:30] <Juest> :)
[20:30] <Juest> byes
[20:30] <sudokill> when u come back complaining
[20:30] <sudokill> :)
[20:30] <Juest> lol
[20:30] <Saalko2> Okay now two problems. ^^ the standard IRC Chat programm empaty isn't working. It works for ICQ, but it has big problems (on my netbook with IRC Servers.) Did anybody know a good alternative? (IRC+ICQ programm +Skype would be perfekt, but didn't think that any messanger works with Skype.) Secound the rarcrack programm (I know sudokill answered it already but yeah problems with IRC sry.
[20:30]  * Juest goes to update and will stay here :P
[20:30] <draconus01> no one?
[20:30]  * Juest is running ubuntu on a vm
[20:30] <sudokill> Juest if u can make a backup image first
[20:30] <Juest> yeah, i won't
[20:30] <BlouBlou> Saalko2: empathy isn't a IRC client
[20:31] <JPP> Saalko2: I use X-chat for IRC. But that's an IRC-only client.
[20:31] <sudokill> Saalko2, i use xchat and weechat
[20:31] <BlouBlou> Saalko2: try irssi (cli) or xchat (gui)
[20:31] <Juest> maybe a copy of the vdi
[20:31] <sudokill> Xchat is good
[20:31] <BlouBlou> irssi is better
[20:31] <KaiDOg> BitchX?
[20:31] <sudokill> ner ner
[20:31] <sudokill> shut up bitch
[20:31] <JPP> BlouBlou: Depends what you prefer.
[20:31] <IdleOne> !language | sudokill
[20:31] <evildaemon> irssi in shell
[20:31] <Usuario> edbian, jpp, Im in the log in screen, there are 2 users: Dexter(dexter) and Dexter(hihihi100) I may have got confused with the "real name" and (username), as I though those 2 (realname and username) would be the same
[20:31] <evildaemon> chatzilla in firefox
[20:31] <evildaemon> xchat for a client
[20:31] <BlouBlou> JPP: Of course :-)
[20:31] <JPP> Usuario: Try Dexter(dexter)
[20:31] <IdleOne> sudokill: that sort of attitude will not be tolerated at all.
[20:31] <Saalko2> I think both are only IRC clients right? But wanna have something witch works witch ICQ and IRC (Don't wanna open two programms)
[20:31] <BKTech86> I get this error trying to install 11.04, please help! http://img37.imageshack.us/i/img3855d.jpg/  -- next screen: http://img841.imageshack.us/i/img3857w.jpg/
[20:31] <Juest> sudokill: read upç
[20:32] <sudokill> upc?
[20:32] <JPP> I'm on a windows box, so an unofficial X-chat windows build is what I use
[20:32] <Juest> yeah xchat-wdc
[20:32] <Juest> or pidgin, is like empathy
[20:33] <Usuario> JPP, same f*cking problem, could not update ICEauthority file /home/dexter/.ICEauthority, the file I know it exists in that same directory and its owned by dexter:dexter
[20:33] <Saalko2> Than I'll try pidgin thx.
[20:33] <JPP> as root, CD to /home/dexter
[20:33] <evildaemon> *sigh* hackers.............
[20:33] <JPP> and paste the output of "ls -l .ICEauthority"
[20:33] <draconus01> ...
[20:33] <rawsupport> BKTech86 : That looks like a wlan driver problem
[20:33] <Usuario> JPP, edbian, sudokill, what about this second message? There is a problem with the configuration server. (/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256)
[20:34] <JPP> Usuario: would it hurt to do a full reinstall?
[20:34] <BKTech86> rawsupport: ok but i haven't installed the OS yet so what can I do ??
[20:34] <JPP> it's looking pretty trashed
[20:34] <Usuario> jpp, yes
[20:34] <Usuario> too much
[20:34] <JPP> In the time we've spent talking about it, you could be in a fresh system.
[20:34] <Juest> lol
[20:34] <Saalko2> Okay 2. problem: rarcrack http://rarcrack.sourceforge.net/ I installed the programm and after I execute: "rarcrack /home/<UserName>/example.rar" he says that the file didn't exist or I didn't have the permissions. The file exists and I set the permission per chmod +x.
[20:35] <rawsupport> BKTech86: Is it a notebook? Can you turn off wlan? Somtimes you can add commands to the kernel when booting (in grub) but I don't know how to deactivate WLAN
[20:35] <JPP> Saalko2: try "./rarcrack"
[20:35] <JPP> if it's in the same directory
[20:35] <BKTech86> rawsupport: turn off lan in bios ?
[20:35] <JPP> not specifying "./" will make the shell look in your PATH variable, which does not include the local directory.
[20:35] <rawsupport> Saalko2 : why chmod +x why not chmod +r ?
[20:35] <BKTech86> rawsupport: yes its a laptop
[20:36] <JPP> rawsupport: so he can execute it.
[20:36] <illmortal> Can someone assist me with Virtual Machine topic? Do I need to have my own Windows disc in order to install Windows into a virtual machine? And is it better to run Windows applications (Adobe Master Collection Suite 5) onto the virtual machine, or will it be incredibly slow on performance? (pushing 3.6ghz with 6gb of ram)
[20:36] <rawsupport> BKTech86: you could try that. Turn it off in bios
[20:36] <BKTech86> rawsupport: ok ..
[20:36] <BKTech86> rawsupport: thanks here i go
[20:36] <EnsignRedshirt> What would be the best way to install Ubuntu on an older computer if the LiveCD doesn't get the X settings correct?  The computer is currently running 6.06, so I have a good xorg.conf.
[20:36] <JPP> illmortal: you need a windows disc. PC with that spec could be okay
[20:36] <illmortal> awesome, thank you JPP!
[20:36] <JPP> but it's always faster to use physical hardware
[20:36] <FORTHELULZ> Is there any way I can take files out of the ".wine" directory on my computer and put them on my Desktop?
[20:36] <JPP> just experiment i guess :)
[20:37] <Saalko2> @ JPP no doesn't works. And @ rawsupport don't know I everytime use +x I'll set the permission at +r and try again thx.
[20:37] <illmortal> ya JPP... but I fear that WINE might crash while in the middle of my work... cannot afford that at the very moment lol... client really needs a website by the end of Monday :P
[20:37] <JPP> illmortal: I take it it's dreamweaver then, which should be okay :)
[20:38] <Usuario> JPP, this is driving me nuts: I logged in as Dexter(dexter), but in the upper right switch off icon I see Lock screen, guest session, switch from dexter... and Dexter (hihihi100) WTF is going on?
[20:38] <illmortal> JPP, it's the whole Adobe package heh..
[20:38] <Saalko2> no +r didn't give me the rights (or enough rights)
[20:38] <JPP> Usuario: sounds like your logins and everything is messed.
[20:38] <draconus01> :(
[20:38] <JPP> Back up and reinstall would be the easiest option.
[20:38] <JPP> Because we cant see computers in person, troubleshooting takes way longer here
[20:38] <Usuario> jpp, too much valuable information would be lost
[20:38] <JPP> Usuario: back up to another HDD first?
[20:39] <JPP> The terminal works, back up to memory sticks
[20:39] <FORTHELULZ> Hello?
[20:39] <JPP> or to the network
[20:39] <CarlFK> illmortal: technically you don't need the physical media to install win into a VM.  you can use an .iso .  There are licensing issues which I have no clue about.  The only way to really know if the speed will be tolerable is to try.
[20:39] <JPP> FORTHELULZ: can't you just click and drag them?
[20:39] <Saalko2> Anyone knows another program to recover .rar passwords?
[20:39] <Usuario> crap, I dont wanna have to recompile FGFS and all the software I had to compile
[20:39] <illmortal> lol Saalko2, been there done that.. it's nearly impossible.
[20:40] <illmortal> pretty much need a, "cracker"
[20:40] <FORTHELULZ> JPP: No I can't
[20:40] <JPP> Saalko2: the idea of encryption is for it to be virtually unbreakable.
[20:40] <bastidrazor> FORTHELULZ: when in the file browser (nautilus) press ctrl+h to see hidden directories (.wine) .. then drag and drop
[20:40] <FORTHELULZ> can't
[20:40] <JPP> FORTHELULZ: why?
[20:40] <FORTHELULZ> let me get it
[20:40] <bastidrazor> FORTHELULZ: can't is not a reason. be just a little less vague.
[20:40] <Saalko2> Yeah. I hate it to write something years ago and encrypt it ^^ well than I should continue with try and errors ^^ thanks.
[20:41] <Saalko2> Anyone knows how I can deinstall rarcrack? I can't see it in the softwarecenter. I am using Ubuntu 11.04
[20:41] <FORTHELULZ> "Error creating directory: Read-only file system"
[20:41] <FORTHELULZ> thats why
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> Saalko2: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/04/howto-crack-rar-7z-and-zip-files-with.html
[20:42] <BKTech86> please help -- I Can't install 11.04 because of my b43 wifi card -- how can I install the driver directly to my liveusb so that it has what it needs to run the install ?
[20:42] <KaiDOg> How can I tell if my ISP is blocking torrent protocols?
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> !remaster | BKTech86
[20:42] <FORTHELULZ> Well, bastidrazor ?
[20:43] <illmortal> JPP... is there a specific virtual machine you'd recommend?
[20:43] <JPP> illmortal: I've used VMware server on windows before, there is a linux version available
[20:43] <JPP> but if VMWare player is available for linux, use that
[20:43] <JPP> (i'll look for a link)
[20:43] <JPP> its easier to configure
[20:44] <illmortal> ok cool... ill check to see if it's in the repositories
[20:44] <illmortal> ya I need something user friendly
[20:44] <JPP> probably won't be.
[20:44] <evildaemon> So if I have a /home partition, and just wipe the hidden folders, I can distro hop perpetually right?
[20:45] <JPP> illmortal: https://www.vmware.com/tryvmware/p/activate.php?p=player&lp=1
[20:45] <JPP> you need to register a free account with VMWare
[20:45] <bastidrazor> FORTHELULZ: / has been encountered some sort of error and has been mounted read only. reboot and watch for errors during boot
[20:45] <JPP> but VMWare player is there, and there is linux binaries.
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> evildaemon: sure, just format the root partition then in the installation, setup the home partition (set to not format it)
[20:45] <evildaemon> Yeah.
[20:45] <JPP> it's a 100MB download.
[20:46] <illmortal> cool
[20:46] <UkeofJersey> Greetings and salutations!
[20:46] <UkeofJersey> The Rundown:
[20:46] <UkeofJersey> I've got an XBox running XBMC getting to the internet via a cable running to my 10.10 netbook which has a wireless connection out to the internet.  My iPhone has an XBMC remote app and is on the same WLAN as the netbook. Question is, how do I get the iPhone to see the XBox?
[20:46] <UkeofJersey> XBox:  <IP_ADDRESS>/24, GW <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:46] <UkeofJersey> Netbook: eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[20:46] <illmortal> thanks JPP!
[20:46] <UkeofJersey>                        wlan0 <IP_ADDRESS>/24, GW <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:46] <UkeofJersey> iPhone: <IP_ADDRESS>/24 GW <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:46] <UkeofJersey> I didn't configure any of the <IP_ADDRESS> stuff, Ubuntu did it automagically when I clicked "Shared to other computers" in network connections.
[20:46] <UkeofJersey> How do I get the netbook to forward stuff from the iphone to the xbox?
[20:46] <FloodBot1> UkeofJersey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:46] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: this doc is way too complicated fo rme
[20:46] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: i just want to install ubuntu
[20:46] <Usuario> jpp, edbian, the whole story so far http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10877766#post10877766
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> BKTech86: if you want to add files and such to the ISO then you will need to use it.
[20:48] <hexdump_> Heya Folks!
[20:48] <hexdump_> I'm still having a wireless issue...
[20:48] <JPP> hexdump_: Hi :)
[20:48] <hexdump_> hey JPP
[20:48] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: when I installed this wifi card in my laptop i was already on 10.04 lts and I just had to download the proprietary driver form the hardware drivers menu
[20:48] <luckyone> hello all - is there any command I can run that will take my system back to a 'default' 11.04 install without wiping all of my data?
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> BKTech86: otherwise you may be able to use the files in the live CD to set it up
[20:48] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: why now can't ubuntu even install without this driver ??
[20:48] <hexdump_> for some dang reason when I boot up both of my wireless adapters.  Goes for my internal PCI wireless and my external USB wireless show up disabled.
[20:48] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: I can't get into liveCD or 11.04 install
[20:48] <JPP> luckyone: depends what you want to do. most stuff is package based so you can remove the packages you don't want
[20:49] <JPP> but typically there is no way to do this, as far as I am aware.
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> BKTech86: if its broadcom then the firmware is propritary
[20:49] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: both crash with this error: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/37/img3855d.jpg/
[20:49] <BKTech86> BKTech86: it is
[20:49] <BKTech86> BKTech86: so how do i get around this?
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> BKTech86: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[20:49] <hexdump_> I have atheros and realtek.  When I type in sudo rmmod ath9k my wireless usb adapter is enabled, the wireless is enabled and working properly.  I would really like to get the internal PCI adapter operational so I could use my wireless usb adapter elsewhere.
[20:49] <luckyone> JPP: I am looking to say here are the only packages you should have installed. remove everything that isn't this, then set these to the default config
[20:50] <JPP> luckyone: Don't think there is something that does that :/
[20:50] <UkeofJersey> bah, silly floodbot....Here is my question:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/614686/
[20:50] <hexdump_> if anyone has any ideas, please privmsg or msg.  thanks! =)
[20:50] <luckyone> JPP: I attempted to 'try' gnome shell and now my desktop on my netbook is JACKED!
[20:51] <JPP> luckyone: jacked?
[20:51] <JPP> be a little more specific :0
[20:51] <luckyone> JPP: I want to at least restore the default themes/UI
[20:51] <JPP> *:)
[20:51] <draconus01> come on. grub help?
[20:51] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: no, not yet.  how do i do that?
[20:51] <JPP> So, go back to the unity theme?
[20:51] <doc-donkey> i need help !!!!
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | BKTech86
[20:52] <luckyone> JPP: I am back in Ubuntu 2D - it just doesn't look right, like it is running clearlooks
[20:52] <luckyone> JPP: the appearance app seems to be gone
[20:52] <JPP> odd. Not something I can answer, someone else might know so stick around :)
[20:53] <[eXception]> hi, doom3 has no sound after update to 10.04 :/
[20:53] <EnsignRedshirt> When I boot from the a CD with 11.04, I get the little rectangle = circled man with a purplish backround, but then a window pops up (coming from the display, I believe), that says "Not optimum mode.  Recommended mode: 1600 x 1200  60 Hz"
[20:53] <[eXception]> lspci -v has no soundcard listed
[20:53] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: yep the md5 is correct
[20:54] <doc-donkey> i just installed 11.05 on my desktop computer, as a 2nd OS along side with XP. i installed 11.05 on the same hdd XP is on, but now i dont have any menu to choose from when i boot, and i cant boot from my windows partition when my 2nd sata hdd is connected.
[20:54] <LUEshi> sup linux master race
[20:54] <phunyguy> quick question... got several bash commands piped together which work great, until I background it with &
[20:54] <phunyguy> then it exits immediately and does nothing
[20:54] <LUEshi> how do i list the users in a particular irc channel
[20:54] <phunyguy> am i missing something?
[20:55] <luckyone> anyone in here skilled at getting things back to 'normal' after playing around too much?
[20:55] <LUEshi> how do i list the users in a particular irc channel
[20:55] <jenvy> only if you know exactly what you did. lol
[20:55] <LUEshi> is it /names?
[20:55] <phunyguy> LUEshi: please don't spam over and over... lol
[20:55] <coz_> luckyone,  that is a broad question... what do you want back to normal?
[20:56] <luckyone> jenvy: I tried to play around with gnome-shell
[20:56] <luckyone> coz_: I want to get back to 11.04 default everything
[20:56] <coz_> luckman212_,  ok  first open ccsm
[20:56] <coz_> luckman212_,  sorry
[20:56] <luckyone> coz_: without having to reinstall and lose all of my data
[20:56] <coz_> luckyone,  open ccsm
[20:56] <Flannel> LUEshi: in many clients, yes.
[20:56] <LUEshi> so how do i list the users in a particular channel using irc commands
[20:56] <LUEshi> in xchat
[20:56] <luckyone> coz_: ccsm?
[20:57] <coz_> luckyone,    yes open a terminal  and type ccsm
[20:57] <BKTech86> I have a Broadcom wifi card in my laptop and so 11.04 won't install, crashes, I've checked the iso md5.  How can I install ubuntu!?!
[20:57] <Usuario> please help me with my ICXEauthority problem, I found some more info http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10877766#post10877766
[20:57] <coz_> luckyone,  I assume this is 11.04..., yes?
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> BKTech86: test your RAM
[20:57] <LUEshi> no help?
[20:57] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: what??
[20:57] <luckyone> coz_: yes, this is 11.04
[20:57] <tjiggi_fo> LUEshi, in xchat you go to View >> User List
[20:57] <Usuario> edbian, are you here?
[20:57] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: the wifi card is the problem is it not
[20:57] <jiohdi> luckyone, the live cd now has the option to fix without deleting
[20:57] <Usuario> sudokill, are you here?
[20:57] <coz_> luckyone,  ok  did ccsm open or did it instruct y ou to install it?
[20:57] <LUEshi> tjiggi_fo, ty
[20:57] <luckyone> coz_: I am on a netbook, no ccsm
[20:58] <Usuario> jpp, are you here?
[20:58] <coz_> luckyone,   ok what is screwed up specifically
[20:58] <luckyone> coz_: I mean no compiz
[20:58] <jiohdi> luckman212_, it has an option to fix from 11.04 to 11.04 and retain all personal files
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> BKTech86: but the desktop doesn't load, its good to check so you know what is good, so you can zero in on what is good
[20:58] <JPP> Usuario: yes, but I cannot help you with your issue
[20:58] <LUEshi> i mean, i want to list the users in a particular channel without joining it tjiggi_fo
[20:58] <JPP> the only thing I would do is reinstall.
[20:58] <Usuario> jpp, not even with the new info?
[20:58] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: i'm already running ubuntu, my ram is fine
[20:58] <JPP> Usuario: afraid not. sorry
[20:58] <jiohdi> luckyone, it has an option to fix from 11.04 to 11.04 and retain all personal files
[20:58] <tjiggi_fo> LUEshi, dunno
[20:58] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: I just want to install 11.04
[20:59] <LUEshi> tjiggi_fo, thanks
[20:59] <jiohdi> luckyone, the live cd that is
[20:59] <luckyone> jiohdi: I will give that a shot
[21:00] <jiohdi> jiohdi, been there, fixed that :)
[21:00] <UkeofJersey> Any help with ICS? Details here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/614686/
[21:00] <Usuario> jpp, can you at least tell me if deleting the group hihihi100 wich has 2 unmarked dexter's would make any different? would it be dangerous?
[21:00] <JPP> Usuario: I don't know, try it and see? It's pretty trashed. So uninstall is the best option.
[21:01] <yusuf> hi
[21:01] <EnsignRedshirt> Huh.  Hit a button on the monitor ("Exit / Source"), and the display appeared, looking very nice. Go figure.
[21:03] <CkhiKuzad> Hello. I was wondering if, while using GRUB, I could map the Super (Windows) key to booting Windows, rather than hitting "Down, Down, Down, Down, Down, Right"
[21:03] <tjiggi_fo> LUEshi, see "Names" here: http://deoxy.org/chat/unreal.htm
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> BKTech86: tried thealternate iso?
[21:04] <kingsley> Why would a web browser be able to visit a web site, but not the web site's IP address?
[21:05] <kingsley> Pointing the web browser at the IP address returns "There is no webpage configured at the URL you are trying to reach".
[21:05] <CkhiKuzad> kingsley, are you putting http:// before it?
[21:05] <guntbert> kingsley: Is that an ubuntu problem?
[21:05] <kingsley> CkhiKuzad: You ask a reasonable question, and yes, I am.
[21:05] <CkhiKuzad> Try omitting it?
[21:06] <Usuario> whats the difference betwenn user ID 1000 and 1001?
[21:06] <guntbert> Usuario: just another number
[21:06] <CarlFK> kingsley: server gets the host name and can act on that.  lets you have many sites on the same IP
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Usuario: different user, the name is just an abstraction
[21:06] <HHX> kingsley - sometimes we servers share the same IP. There may be 40 web sites using that 1 IP address
[21:06] <kingsley> Usuario: I expect they're different users. The user names may be in /etc/passwd.
[21:06] <{adrianBc}> hi
[21:07] <HHX> CarlFX - beat me too it
[21:07] <{adrianBc}> somebody want to help me?
[21:07] <Usuario> actionparsnip, can you help me with the new info I added? read my post, the bottom part http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10877766#post10877766
[21:07] <guntbert> !ask | {adrianBc}
[21:07] <krystian> witam
[21:07] <guntbert> !pl | krystian
[21:07] <CkhiKuzad> Anyway, does anyone know a solution to my problem? Mapping super to booting windows, rather than multiple arrow presses?
[21:08] <{adrianBc}> y need to make autostartscript for my driver in ipcop
[21:08] <doc-donkey> anyone can help me install the dual boot thingy my version of 11.04 seems to lack ?
[21:08] <{adrianBc}> and y dont know how
[21:08] <guntbert> {adrianBc}: on ubuntu?
[21:08] <kingsley> HHX: That's a good point. I remember reading web server documentation that said the incoming query's URL would be used to direct the visitor to the right web site at that IP address.
[21:09] <{adrianBc}> ipcop distribution
[21:09] <guntbert> {adrianBc}: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[21:09] <kingsley> HHX: My only concern is that the web site says "There is no webpage configured at the URL you are trying to reach", which suggests to me a different problem.
[21:10] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: what is the alternate ?
[21:10] <sparr> How can I make "Guest Session" an option when my screen is locked?
[21:10] <nit-wit> doc-donkey, what is a dual boot thingy?
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> BKTech86: it installs ubuntu but in a text mode, it installs a desktop OS
[21:10] <BKTech86> what is text mode?
[21:10] <sparr> kingsley: it's not specifically the URL but the Host header that apache uses to decide what site to serve to your visitor for a specific IP
[21:10] <doc-donkey> nit-wit: its the damn place where you get to chose what the computer will boot from, either XP or ubuntu
[21:11] <rcmaehl> libreoffice is much WORSE than microsoft office
[21:11] <rcmaehl> why
[21:11] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: i wont get a GUI ?
[21:11] <CarlFK> kingsley: sounds like apache vhosts need a host name.   so exactly what you describe.
[21:11] <rcmaehl> Why doesn libreoffice CRASH EVERY ubuntu pc I use it on
[21:11] <sparr> McManiaC: why what?
[21:11] <HHX> kingsley - Quick question, are you using godaddy for web hosting (or similar). If so they use shared IP address. Their internal routing is done via DNS names so what you are seeing is whats [supposed] to happen
[21:11] <rcmaehl> why did the devs do that?
[21:11] <sparr> why doesn't it crash? because it's awesome
[21:11] <guntbert> !ot | rcmaehl
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> BKTech86: not during the installation, the resulting OS will be a desktop OS
[21:11] <nit-wit> doc-donkey, the grub menu correct?  Are you getting this "grub>"   when you power on?
[21:12] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: ok .. if the end result is the same i might as well try it
[21:12] <rcmaehl> where do I report bugs?
[21:12] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: but i dont see why if the installer is telling me this hardware is the problem
[21:12] <rcmaehl> for 11.04
[21:12] <sparr> rcmaehl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[21:12] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: it seems i should address the problem it's telling me about
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> BKTech86: its worth a shot
[21:12] <doc-donkey> nit-wit: no sir i dont get this menu, plus i cant boot when my old ide or my second sata hdd is plugged to the computer
[21:12] <kingsley> HHX: According to the error page displayed at that IP address, the host is SiteGround.
[21:12] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: well it takes a long time for me to download that iso here
[21:13] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: why can't i fix the wifi driver anyway?
[21:13] <guntbert> kingsley: I still don't see how that is an ubuntu support question
[21:13] <josmala> How can I get those unitu toolbars NOT appearing when doing wine on full screen, they block scrolling on full screen wine apps.
[21:13] <nit-wit> doc-donkey, so lets stay on a very simple descriptive track we can not read your mind. Describe what happens when you boot and the operating systems .
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> BKTech86: you could blacklist the driverusing bootoptions and install offline
[21:13] <illmortal> Hey JPP... how do you install this .bundle file?
[21:14] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: how?
[21:14] <JPP> illmortal: I'm not sure...perhaps execute it?
[21:14] <JPP> i'll google for you.
[21:14] <basilmeck> hey u ther
[21:14] <illmortal> heh.. I was looking for instructions specifically for VMware-Player-3.1.4-385536.x86_64.bundle
[21:14] <UkeofJersey> Still looking for ICS help:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/614686/
[21:14] <luckyone> jiohdi: I am buring a usb stick right now
[21:14] <JPP> illmortal: yes, execute it. try "sh VMware-Player-3.1.4-385536.x86_64.bundle"
[21:14] <luckyone> jiohdi: have you used this before?
[21:15] <JPP> or "./VMware-Player-3.1.4-385536.x86_64.bundle" (in same directory of course! :))
[21:15] <illmortal> interesting. Ok.
[21:15] <luckyone> jiohdi: to go from junk 11.04 to clean 11.04?
[21:15] <doc-donkey> nit-wit: i started off with XP being on sata hdd number 1, wich was splitted in 3 partition, i had disconnected both my sata hdd number 2 and my ide hdd, wich are my backups, in case something goes wrong.
[21:15] <McManiaC> sparr: what?
[21:15] <HHX> kingley - Is this your personal server. I am actually facing the same problems with GoDaddy, so I am building a single isolated Apache server.
[21:15] <guntbert> illmortal: you will need sudo bash ./VMWare......
[21:15]  * rcmaehl headdesks
[21:15] <doc-donkey> nit-wit: when prompted where i wanted my ubuntu installed, i choose to split the partition XP was on in two
[21:15] <rcmaehl> WHY is libreoffice included in the panel if it's not installed by default?
[21:16] <sparr> McManiaC: what what?
[21:16] <nit-wit> doc-donkey, folow this bot prompt to post the boot script ! bootinfo
[21:16] <sparr> !bootinfo | doc-donkey
[21:16] <sparr> nit-wit: see syntax above
[21:16] <Polah> Could I change the filesystem of a hard drive from ext4 to NTFS without losing the data on it?
[21:16] <nit-wit> sparr, thank.;)
[21:16] <sparr> Polah: no
[21:16] <UkeofJersey> Polah no
[21:17] <MonkeyDust> Polah: if you copy the data to another locatio, first
[21:17] <sparr> Polah: make a backup, think hard about why you want to change to NTFS, don't change.
[21:17] <McManiaC> sparr: I guess you just highlighted the wrong one :P
[21:17] <sparr> McManiaC: yeah, my bad, sorry
[21:17] <MonkeyDust> Polah: if you copy the data to another location, first, and then back after you changed the fs
[21:17] <McManiaC> sparr: kk :)
[21:17] <Polah> Sparr: I know, I'd rather not but it's because the drive needs to be shared between Windows and Ubuntu. MonkeyDust: Yeah, I know I could copy it off and then copy it back afterwards, I just wanted to know if I could just reformat it and have it work
[21:18] <illmortal> Got it JPP, thanks again!
[21:18] <JPP> illmortal: You're welcome! :D
[21:18] <nit-wit> doc-donkey, it is still not clear that is why I suggedt the bootscript. If you installed to a HD and had the others unplugged, put that HD first to be read in the bios.
[21:19] <nit-wit> *suggested
[21:19] <UkeofJersey> No help about 10.10 forwarding stuff to its ICS client?  Details:         http://paste.ubuntu.com/614686/
[21:20] <doc-donkey> nit-wit: it is not clear i agree
[21:21] <tabbernuk> Is it possible to exclude an application fully from application menu, not just the menu of particular application but also the title of it? It's a problem for users of Screenlets... Any hints welcome! https://bugs.launchpad.net/screenlets/+bug/753652
[21:22] <nit-wit> doc-donkey, it's not easy always describing. ;) run the bootscript it will get us much closer to the answer.
[21:22] <nit-wit> ! bootinfo | doc-donkey
[21:24] <doc-donkey> im on that nit-wit, i need to change the computers location if i want it to be connected to the internet
[21:24] <nit-wit> doc-donkey, cool I'm taking a cig break.
[21:25] <Usuario> edbian, hi
[21:25] <sparr> How can I make "Guest Session" an option when my screen is locked? I want other people to be able to use my computer when I'm not around
[21:25] <Usuario> o say can you see..
[21:26] <olskolirc> how can I see the date in 'history' of when I installed a package
[21:26] <stravant> Is it possible to create a keyboard shortcut involving the "Windows" key in Unity?
[21:27] <MonkeyDust> stravant: in ccsm
[21:27] <celthunder> stravant: why wouldnt it be (i don't use unity just don't see why it wouldn't be possible)
[21:27] <MonkeyDust> !ccsm| stravant
[21:28] <stravant> I have some shortcuts involving the windows key set in "Keyboard Shortcuts", but it appears that Unity is  staling the events
[21:28] <stravant> Even though they aren't actually used by Unity
[21:28] <nit-wit> stravant, did you see the bot on compiz?
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> stravant: in ccsm, choose Desktop - Unity Plugin
[21:29] <Usuario> how do I get rid of There is a problem with the configuration server. (/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256) ?
[21:29] <celthunder> stravant: did it steal them or did it just not recognize that you pushed the windows key (aka is it mapped to something other than mod4/multi_key)
[21:29] <edbian> Torrents don't seem to work on my Ubuntu 11.04 machine.  The port testing thing in preferences seems to just hang when I test a port (51413)
[21:30] <nit-wit> edbian, which torrent app are you running?
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> edbian: i've used deluge torrent client for iso's, no prob
[21:30] <edbian> nit-wit: transmission
[21:30] <stravant> I'm not sure exactly what's going on, but Unity uses the Mod4 key to being up the Unity launcher, so I assume it's "stealing" it form the normal keyboard shortcuts thing
[21:30] <loua1> any one know ltsp server and thin clients
[21:31] <nit-wit> edbian, I second the deluge I have found transmission to not work all that well for me.
[21:31] <edbian> ok thanks
[21:32] <guntbert> loua1: I guess that #ubuntu-server will be the better place for your question
[21:33] <loua1> ty guntbert
[21:33] <eb3ha4el> I'm using Netbook with Atom N280 processer (http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=41411) is it usual then computer gets very slow watching youtube?
[21:34] <Usuario> toussaint There is a problem with the configuration server. (/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256)
[21:35] <The_Explorer> Pardon me, could i trouble one of you for the name of a compression utility that has alot of options. Perhaps multi-thread, memory usage and etc.
[21:35] <nit-wit> eb3ha4el, install the firefox addon flash aid and run it.  How much ram does that unit hne?
[21:35] <nit-wit> *have
[21:36] <eb3ha4el> nit-wit: HEy~ well I don't think it's RAM problem, since Gnonme system monitor tells me I've got plenty (900MB max, and about 300MB is being used)
[21:36] <stravant> MonkeyDust: What exactly should I be doing in ccsm to be able to set shortcuts?
[21:36] <novodinia> What is the process of downloading a package with its source and then compiling and installing the package? apt-get source --compile <package>? Where is the .deb file if this is the correct method?
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> eb3ha4el: or use minitube, it doesn't need flash and uses a lot less ram
[21:37] <eb3ha4el> ActionParsnip: is it a website?
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> eb3ha4el: its an app
[21:37] <guntbert> novodinia: why do you want to do that?
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> !info miitube
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> !info minitube
[21:37] <SyGeek> !info smuxi
[21:38] <nit-wit> eb3ha4el, the flash aid add on will get you the latest adobe and clean out unneeded stuff including  the installer.
[21:38] <the_eye_> I run 10.10 no compiz, how can I make keyboard change workspace shortcasts ?
[21:38] <eb3ha4el> nit-wit: I'll try it thanks
[21:39] <eb3ha4el> ActionParsnip: I'l try it as well thanks
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> np
[21:39] <Seveas> the_eye_, system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts
 thanks I try it
[21:40] <illmortal> hey JPP... lol.. does VM Ware player not allow you to install 64-bit OS?..
[21:41] <JPP> illmortal: it does for me. I have a windows 7 64-bit VM and several 64bit linux VM's
[21:41] <JPP> did yuo specify the VM as 64bit?
[21:41] <JPP> *you
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> JPP: does your cpu support 64bit guests, is the cpu feature enabled?
[21:41] <illmortal> Yep... I installed the 64-bit version of the VM ware player
[21:42] <JPP> ActionParsnip: Mine does, it's illmortal that is asking :P
[21:42] <guntbert> illmortal: with most virtualization systems your host CPU must support it for 64 bit guests to run
[21:42] <illmortal> <_< I dunno it's a 8400 core duo.
[21:42] <illmortal> I can only assume it support 64-bit all around
[21:42] <viddy> I have a device emulating a scsi-device which the kernel fails to send commands to, e.g udev settle, blkid and the likes will just end up in a hung process.. Is there any way to send a kernel-parameter which makes it totally ignore this device entirely?
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> illmortal: check your CPU spec, also make sure the feature isenabled
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> illmortal: why do you need 64bit guest?
[21:43] <illmortal> virtualization.. is the feature, I imagine?
[21:43] <illmortal> action.. because I only have a 64-bit version of XP and 7
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> illmortal: i see
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> illmortal: if the cpu doesn't support 64bit guest you will need to buy 32bit XP etc
[21:44] <lololokoke> негры
[21:44] <edbian> deluge works.  Thank you however helped me!
[21:45] <illmortal> crap.. it doesn't.. just googled.
[21:45] <illmortal> alright thanks again
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> not ll CPUs suport it, folks need to realize this
[21:45] <JPP> Indeed.
[21:46] <SyGeek> !info wtf
[21:46] <sysdoc> lol
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> oh well, xp32 bit is cheap enough
[21:48] <Jaime771> Linux!
[21:48] <edbian> Linux :)
[21:49] <gdtrigas> natty
[21:49] <Jaime771> edbian: this is about Linux, right?
[21:50] <gdtrigas> anyone knows C++
[21:50] <edbian> Jaime771: This channel is about Ubuntu Linux, yes.
[21:51] <gdtrigas> which channel is about C++
[21:51] <edbian> gdtrigas: #c++ of course
[21:57] <josmala> It seems to me that switch user app doesn't work on my computer.
[21:58] <eb3ha4el> nit-wit: I tried it, I'm not sure whether it got any faster... I was actually more wondering about if the speed i get from this processer is normal. More about general performance of it and youtube watching thing as example.
[21:59] <eb3ha4el> nit-wit: what Processor are you using nitwit?
[21:59] <eb3ha4el> nit-wit: is it kind of latest?
[21:59] <tanath> anyone know why i can't drag to reorder apps on panel in gnome after upgrading to 11.04?
[22:00] <yassine_hell> hi
[22:01] <eb3ha4el> Anyone using Netbook here?
[22:02] <tanath> (i mean bottom panel)
[22:07] <yassine_hell_> hey .. when i insert my cd i get a black screen  "with boot:" ... what should i write?
[22:08] <Guest66932> Anybody have an idea? I want to play a video on my xubuntu system and listen to the audio on my ipod. I've googled to the ends of the earth and believe im missing something.
[22:08] <Arachon> There is something seriously wrong with my system... I just did apt-get autoremove, and er... The entirty of GNOME seems to have disappeared
[22:11] <vampired_d> !list
[22:11] <Juest> Arachon: wel then avoid apt-get autoremove
[22:11] <Juest> and reinstall gnome
[22:11] <Arachon> Juest: See now, apt-get autoremove is not *supposed* to do that, is it?
[22:11] <kostkon> Arachon, try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[22:11] <Juest> yes
[22:12] <Juest> it just detects some software marked as *not used*
[22:12] <wn1zid> autoremove is usually for ridding installed leftover packagings
[22:12] <Juest> and adds them to remove
[22:12] <Juest> yeah
[22:12] <Arachon> I thought autoremove removes unused dependencies
[22:12] <wn1zid> it shouldn't do what it di
[22:12] <wn1zid> d
[22:12] <Arachon> Now I know Unity is the new stuff... But I think it's a but unfair to mark GNOME2 as "unused", no?
[22:12] <philip_> hello !
[22:13] <Juest> no
[22:13] <kostkon> Arachon, unity is based on gnome2
[22:13] <Juest> switch via login
[22:13] <kostkon> Arachon, and unity in 11.10 is based on gnome3
[22:13] <Juest> in login you have choic
[22:13] <Juest> ces
[22:13] <wn1zid> i don't know about 11.04, maybe its screwed up in it, i'm still 10.10 over here
[22:13] <Juest> 11.10?
[22:13] <Arachon> kostkon: Oh, my bad
[22:13] <Juest> 11.04 you mean
[22:14] <Juest> wn1zid: i am upgrading :) i am in 10.10 too
[22:14] <wn1zid> i'm staying
[22:14] <wn1zid> it works 2 good
[22:17] <Georgi535549> Hello
[22:20] <mattv111> does anyone know how to fix the slow internet issue in 11.04. Ath5k card
[22:20] <Juest> ummm, updating drivers?
[22:21] <Juest> or is your ISP?
[22:21] <Juest> mattv111....
[22:21] <mattv111> no it's not the isp. I've searched all over
[22:21] <coilbucker> You could upgrade your network card.
[22:21] <mattv111> a lot of people are having this problem, but I can't seem to find a solution
[22:21] <Juest> yep, upgrade drivers
[22:21] <Juest> or keep googleing
[22:22] <mattv111> ok ill try that
[22:23] <coilbucker> Is there anything wrong with grub 1.9.something, or is upgrading to grub2 necessary?
[22:26] <qin> coilbucker: 1.9 is grub2 ;)
[22:26] <coilbucker> Oh, sorry. New at this.
[22:27] <lech> Ubuntu 10.10  :)
[22:27] <qin> Yes, folks from grub make it as confusing as possible.
[22:27] <lethu> hello, what's the best way to install e17 from ubuntu ?
[22:27] <tanath> anyone know why i can't drag to reorder apps on bottom panel in gnome after upgrading to 11.04?
[22:28] <coilbucker> I'm on 11.04 and there is no bottom panel.
[22:28] <qin> lethu: There is ready PPA for elightement.
[22:29] <lethu> qin, where can I find it ?
[22:29] <Duvrazh> Can anyone help me with a raid issue? Using ubuntu server 11.04 w/ webmin
[22:29] <qin> lethu: https://launchpad.net/~e17-packaging/+archive/ppa
[22:30] <Logan_> !ask | Duvrazh
[22:30] <lethu> qin, thanks
[22:30] <Guest91574> hey, my sound and inbox indicator have been removed from indicator appalet, can anybody help me
[22:31] <VCoolio> lethu: that's from two years ago, don't use that
[22:31] <Juest> Guest91574: add it again with Add Panels
[22:31] <Duvrazh> Ubuntu Server 11.04 w/ Webmin, having issues mounting a raid I've created in the LinuxRaid module using MDADM. I can't get the raid to mount anywhere "says already mounted as /dev/md0" but I can't open it's *current* mount point to test if it worked.
[22:31] <qin> Guest91574: Alt-F2 and "gnome-panel --replace". without the quotes. Does it help?
[22:31] <qin> Guest91574: If it is not Unity
[22:32] <lethu> VCoolio, oh ok, what shall I use ?
[22:32] <VCoolio> lethu: better compile the stuff, there a good script for it http://omicron.homeip.net/projects/easy_e17/easy_e17.sh
[22:32] <lethu> VCoolio, thanks, much appreciated
[22:32] <rww> !webmin | Duvrazh
[22:33] <Duvrazh> rww: alternatives?
[22:33] <rww> Duvrazh: no idea, sorry
[22:33] <VCoolio> lethu: check if you have the dependencies http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=download&l=en on the left
[22:33] <lethu> VCoolio, ok will do
[22:34] <Guest91574> qin, it didn't work
[22:34] <qin> Guest91574: Ate you Natty?
[22:34] <qin> *Are
[22:34] <Guest91574> ya
[22:34] <qin> Guest91574: Unity?
[22:35] <Guest91574> unity means?
[22:35] <Juest> yes
[22:35] <qin> Guest91574: Do you have "fancy" bar on the left?
[22:36] <FoolishOwl> I had exim4 on my old computer, which I'd upgraded through each release since 8.04. I don't remember installing it. I installed Ubuntu 11.04 on a new computer, and there's no MTA. Was an MTA installed by default in earlier releases?
[22:36] <Juest> what's MTA?
[22:36] <Guest91574> no
[22:36] <meowsus> Alright. So i installed XAMPP at /opt/lampp/ and i'm trying to set up an alias so I don't need to run "sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start" every time i try to start up the application. I created ~/.bash_aliases and added "alias xampp='/opt/lampp/lampp'" to it. When i try to run "xampp start" it says the application needs to be run as root, so then i try "sudo xampp start" it says that the xampp command isn't found. Any ideas as to why the
[22:36] <meowsus> SU wouldn't be able to find the alias i set up?
[22:37] <Arachon> I have installed network-manager-gnome, but I can't for the life of me find the network manager applet
[22:37] <tanath> coilbucker, 'cause you're in unity, not gnome
[22:37] <meowsus> Alright. So i installed XAMPP at /opt/lampp/ and i'm trying to set up an alias so I don't need to run "sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start" every time i try to start up the application. I created ~/.bash_aliases and added "alias xampp='/opt/lampp/lampp'" to it.
[22:37] <meowsus> When i try to run "xampp start" it says the application needs to be run as root, so then i try "sudo xampp start" it says that the xampp command isn't found. Any ideas as to why the SU wouldn't be able to find the alias i set up?
[22:38] <Guest91574> qin, any solution?
[22:38] <rww> !xampp | meowsus
[22:38] <tanath> anyone know why i can't drag to reorder apps on bottom panel in gnome after upgrading to 11.04?
[22:39] <meowsus> Hey rww, XAMPP is installed fine, just because i used XAMPP as an example doesn't mean that this is not a question about bash aliases
[22:40] <FoolishOwl> meowsus, it's a gotcha with sudo.
[22:40] <meowsus> FoolishOwl, ?
[22:40] <lorac> does someone know a good domain/webspace provider, which uses linux?
[22:40] <Duvrazh> Since webmin is not supported, does anyone have a good tutorial/article on creating a raid-5 with 4 spare 2TB hd's in my ubuntu server box?
[22:40] <rww> meowsus: ah, on rereading I see. In short, sudo requires an actual command as an argument, not an alias. In long, sudo is not bash, so it doesn't know what bash aliases are. It's looking for an actual executable file to execute.
[22:40] <meowsus> I figured that sudo might not know what i defined in my .bash_aliases file
[22:40] <EastDallas> Does anyone have any idea why empathy won't wrap when I type this message?  It just keeps expanding the size of the window?!?!?
[22:41] <rww> meowsus: one option is to change your alias to alias xampp='sudo /opt/lampp/lampp', perhaps?
[22:41] <FoolishOwl> meowsus, put 'sudo' at the beginning of the command within the alias definition.
[22:41] <BirdinaTux> I have a machine with ubuntu 8.04 and I want to upgrade to 10.04 to include kernel support for my new network card.  I currently have no internet on that machine.  When i try to run gksh "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" it doesn't work. How should I upgrade this system to 10.04
[22:41] <FoolishOwl> What rww said.
[22:41] <tanath> EastDallas, i don't, but you might like xchat better for irc anyway...
[22:41] <Arachon> Anyone? Network manager applet seems to be missing
[22:41] <meowsus> rww, FoolishOwl, that's what i was thinking. But i've done this before so that i could run "sudo xampp start" before on two machines. I'm on a new machine right now.
[22:42] <EastDallas> No, I've been using GNU/Linux for years, and don't like xchat.
[22:42] <tanath> Arachon, are you in unity? no more applets in unity
[22:42] <Arachon> tanath: Nope, GNOME 2
[22:42] <Duvrazh> Since webmin is not supported, does anyone have a good tutorial/article on creating a raid-5 with 4 spare 2TB hd's in my ubuntu server box?
[22:42] <meowsus> You know what i probably did? I probably created a sym link and put it in my /usr/local/bin directory
[22:42] <FoolishOwl> Arachon, I'll check something on my machine. Hang on.
[22:42] <meowsus> Thanks guys!
[22:42] <Arachon> tanath: I did install it from scratch though
[22:42] <rcmaehl> I plugged my joystick into my usb port. Why isn't it working?
[22:42] <tanath> Arachon, erm, why? it's in repos?
[22:42] <tanath> Arachon, i have mine from upgrade...
[22:42] <EastDallas> I like to get in and out of channels, and don't want to have another application running.
[22:43] <Arachon> tanath: No I mean GNOME 2... Like, from a miminal install
[22:43] <ZykoticK9> rcmaehl, check to see if you have a js0 in /dev/input
[22:43] <rcmaehl> ZykoticK9: yes js0 (idk what it is) and js1 (which is my usb joystick)
[22:43] <EastDallas> It was wrapping fine earlier today.  This started after a reboot.
[22:43] <ZykoticK9> rcmaehl, js0 = 1st joystick, js1 = 2nd joystick - do you have two plugged in?
[22:44] <rcmaehl> ZykoticK9: nope
[22:44] <rcmaehl> zykes-: unless it's detecting my wireless microsoft mouse as a joystick
[22:44] <rcmaehl> ZykoticK9: unless it's detecting my wireless microsoft mouse as a joystick
[22:44] <BirdinaTux> oh and when i boot from the 10.04 cd it gives me the option to write over the 8.04 or install next to it, but not upgrade it
[22:44] <meowsus> Tottttally what i did, rww, FoolishOwl, thanks so much!
[22:44] <tanath> Arachon, mine shows up due to indicator applet...
[22:45] <ZykoticK9> rcmaehl, you can "cat /dev/input/js0" and press buttons/move stick and see if you get ascii feedback, try js1 if js0 fails
[22:45] <Duvrazh> Can anyone offer assistance with creating raid-5 arrays from command line?
[22:45] <Arachon> tanath: I have indicator-applet installed, it shows the mail icon and the sound icon
[22:46] <tanath> Arachon, tehre are multiple indicator applets. try 'indicator applet complete' perhaps
[22:46] <rcmaehl> ZykoticK9: nope no change in js0
[22:46] <FoolishOwl> Arachon, do you have anything in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[22:46] <ZykoticK9> rcmaehl, ctrl+c to quit and try js1
[22:46] <tanath> EastDallas, what don't you like about xchat?
[22:46] <hiexpo> why not just restore desktop
[22:47] <MykehDoom> Hello can someone hlep me?
[22:47] <rcmaehl> ZykoticK9: yes change in js1 when I move the joystick or press a button on it
[22:47] <pr0ton> anybody used ushare here?
[22:47] <ZykoticK9> rcmaehl, if you unplugged/replugged in the USB quickly sometime it will cause js0 to be a ghost
[22:47] <MykehDoom> help*
[22:47] <tanath> EastDallas, or is there something you like better about empathy?
[22:47] <sidewalk> anyone around who can help me out with some routing issues over openvpn?
[22:47] <rcmaehl> ZykoticK9: so how do I get my joystick to work?
[22:47] <ZykoticK9> rcmaehl, then the kernel sees your joystick - just be sure your game/whatever points to /dev/input/jsX - the default might just be /dev/jsX.  Good luck.
[22:48] <Arachon> FoolishOwl: Yeah, eth0 lo the norma
[22:48] <Arachon> *normal
[22:48] <MykehDoom> I'm trying to get my Belkin Wireless USB F7D1101 to work in Unbuntu 10.04.
[22:48] <Arachon> cept my wlan interfac actually
[22:48] <rcmaehl> ZykoticK9: how do I get it to work on the desktop?
[22:48] <ZykoticK9> rcmaehl, you mean like a mouse?
[22:48] <rcmaehl> yeah
[22:49] <ZykoticK9> rcmaehl, see if Ubuntu has a package xserver-xorg-input-joystick, and install it if it does.
[22:49] <rcmaehl> ZykoticK9: then reboot?
[22:50] <ZykoticK9> rcmaehl, ? perhaps just restart GDM "sudo service gdm restart" (will log you out!)
[22:50] <Duvrazh> Does anyone have experience in creating raid arrays from command line?
[22:50] <rcmaehl> ZykoticK9: ok
[22:50] <MykehDoom> I'm trying to get my Belkin Wireless USB F7D1101 to work in Unbuntu 10.04.
[22:51] <inso> Is gnome 3 stable for 11.04?
[22:51] <ZykoticK9> rcmaehl, you might want to reboot, it will probably set you joystick back to js0 (or should)
[22:51] <rww> inso: no
[22:51] <inso> bah
[22:52] <hexatron> it was pretty stable for me, but less responsive than unity. it also messes unity up somehow.
[22:52] <ZykoticK9> inso, if you want Gnome3 check out the new Fedora
[22:52] <tanath> EastDallas: switched to empathy and text is not wrapping for me either
[22:52] <inso> I tried fedora, sadly I'm new to linux and it was overwhelming. To say the least.
[22:52] <lsv> Duvrazh: this page might help ( you might need to register ) http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7939/?hq_e=el&hq_m=1218053&hq_l=12&hq_v=5befa782e4
[22:53] <tanath> EastDallas: expands the window
[22:53] <Juest> ZykoticK9; inso; fedora?, get ubuntu natty instead, it haves gnome3
[22:53] <MykehDoom> I'm trying to get my Belkin Wireless USB F7D1101 to work in Unbuntu 10.04. Someone help???
[22:53] <rww> Juest: no it doesn't. There's a PPA for GNOME 3, but it isn't stable (or supported).
[22:53] <hiexpo> i don't know about joy sticks but i know usb modems once pluggedin theyare assigned a value and always keep it
[22:54] <tonsofpcs> huh?
[22:54] <ZykoticK9> hiexpo, my experiences show joystick jump around a lot :|
[22:54] <hexatron> MykehDoom: check out this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1478394
[22:55] <hiexpo> ZykoticK9, that could piss a guy off especially if you got to edit the config every time
[22:56] <ZykoticK9> hiexpo, it can certainly cause issues - luckily in my case, I have two identical joysticks - so not usually an issue.
[22:56] <FoolishOwl> Arachon, I'm not sure what else to suggest. Sorry.
[22:56] <MykehDoom> hexatron does this link work for you? http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/kernel/dists/trunk/firmware-nonfree/realtek/RTL8192SU/rtl8192sfw.bin
[22:56] <tanath_> EastDallas, if you've responded to me i haven't seen it. #ubuntu window froze in empathy
[22:57] <MykehDoom> that's the drivers, but the link wont work for me.
[22:57] <rcmaehl> ZykoticK9: yhx
[22:57] <Arachon> FoolishOwl: Okay :/ Thanks anyway
[22:57] <hexatron> nope
[22:57] <rcmaehl> thx*
[22:57] <MykehDoom> ugh.. =/
[22:57] <MykehDoom> wtf do I do?
[22:57] <ZykoticK9> rcmaehl, working?
[22:57] <tanath_> EastDallas, but yeah, same behaviour here. which gets really annoying when the window is maximized
[22:58] <rcmaehl> ZykoticK9: yep
[22:58] <ZykoticK9> rcmaehl, nice :)
[22:59] <BirdinaTux> I have a machine with ubuntu 8.04 and I want to upgrade to 10.04 to include kernel support for my new network card.  I currently have no internet on that machine.  When i try to run gksh "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" it doesn't work. How should I upgrade this system to 10.04
[22:59] <tanath_> EastDallas, have you filed or are you filing a bug report?
[22:59] <EastDallas> tanath_ Sorry, went to go get some dinner.
[23:00] <Barami> Hello. Who can help me about gnome3 with ppa?
[23:00] <tanath_> EastDallas, ah
[23:00] <ZykoticK9> BirdinaTux, are you using the 10.04 alternative cd?  I don't think you can upgrade from a LiveCD.
[23:00] <Barami> I have problem after installing the gnome3.
[23:00] <MykehDoom> Hey hexatron
[23:00] <tanath_> EastDallas, that's what /away is for :P
[23:00] <BirdinaTux> ZykoticK9,  no I was not. That is probably the whole problem. Thanks.
[23:01] <Barami> After installing gnome3, acpi doesn't work.
[23:01] <Barami> Even after login to gnome classic mode, acpi doesn't work.
[23:02] <BirdinaTux> ZykoticK9, I don't see a link for the alternative cd on the ubuntu website. Any Idea what it's under?
[23:02] <LAcan> I'm trying to delete a directory but ubuntu keeps telling me its not empty, despite the fact that there are no files in it. From the CLI i do an "ls -aR" and it lists sub directories, but also "Input/output error". Any fix?
[23:02] <EastDallas> tanath_: yeah, froze on me to when the window was maximized.  reporting bug.
[23:02] <ZykoticK9> BirdinaTux, http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ under Alternative
[23:03] <ZykoticK9> BirdinaTux, sorry Alternate
[23:03] <lsv> LAcan: sudo rm -fr dirname
[23:03] <tanath_> EastDallas, k, link me and i can say affects me too
[23:03] <Juest> LAcan: have you tired rm <path>/* and then rmdir <path>?
[23:03] <EastDallas> tanath: k
[23:03] <Juest> with sudo
[23:03] <FoolishOwl> Anyway, did Ubuntu go from installing an MTA by default to not installing an MTA by default at some point?
[23:03] <ZykoticK9> BirdinaTux, I think the feature you want is "upgrading from older installations without network access; "
[23:03] <BirdinaTux> ZykoticK9, this is exactly what I need. Thanks so much for your time.
[23:04] <LAcan> lsv, doesnt work "Directory not empty"
[23:04] <ZykoticK9> BirdinaTux, good luck.
[23:04] <thealphanerd> hey I know this question has probably been asked a million times... but I'm having a hard time finding good documentation... anyone know how to boot ubuntu from a usb on osx on a macbook pro??? the issue is efi if that helps
[23:05] <Loshki> LAcan: you're not supposed to get "Input/output error" from disk operations in normal use. Is there anything valuable on that disk? If so, back it up before you do anything else...
[23:05] <qin> LAcan: and dot files in? mv to different name and remove.
[23:05] <LAcan> Loshki, qin nothing valuable, im trying to erase everything on it...
[23:05] <LAcan> qin, no hidden (.) files either...
[23:06] <Juest> qin, how
[23:06] <Juest> to rename files?
[23:06] <qin> Juest: em?
[23:06] <hiexpo> mv
[23:06] <qin> Juest: mv oldnamee newname
[23:06] <th0r> Juest: you don't rename them, you move (mv) them to the new filename
[23:06] <multipass> does anyone know where foobnix saves the config data? i wanna reset it... cant find it though (uninstalling/reinstalling dosn twork)
[23:07] <VCoolio> multipass: .config/foobnix ?
[23:07] <Juest> or
[23:07] <qin> Juest: But there is feature: man rename
[23:07] <Juest> oh, move= mv
[23:07] <tanath_> multipass, might need to do a complete removal, then install
[23:07] <lsv> LAcan: type this ' cd && mv path-to-folder path-to-folder-new && sudo rm -rf path-to-folder '
[23:07] <Juest> is part of busybox?
[23:08] <Juest> because i have android
[23:08] <tanath_> multipass, else check in home folder. .config and such
[23:08] <Juest> qin,
[23:08] <kikki> Is monodeveloper the same as visual basics c#?
[23:08] <tanath_> multipass, aka a purge
[23:08] <lsv> LAcan: what i mean is, make sure you're not in the directory you're deleting, rename folder, then remove the folder
[23:09] <Loshki> LAcan: Good that there's nothing important on it. Next, I would unmount the disk and see if it fscks cleanly....
[23:09] <qin> Juest: Juest Dunno
[23:09] <ZykoticK9> tanath, FYI even "purge" won't touch config files in a home directory
[23:09] <Juest> i got it, rename is also a command
[23:09] <Juest> qin, try this
[23:09] <multipass> VCoolio: yeah there it is, thanks
[23:09] <LAcan> Loshki, not terribly familiar with fscks ...?
[23:09] <tanath> ZykoticK9: that's why i mentioned there too
[23:09] <LAcan> lsv, i wasnt in it
[23:09] <Juest> type busybox on a term
[23:09] <kikki> I cannot open the design (windows and buttons) of my code in MonoDeveloper but under visual basics c#? Anyone knows how to open the design of the code in MonoDeveloper for Ubuntu?
[23:10] <Israfel> For some reason I can't execute this program: "-rwxrwxrwx  1 jeff jeff<PHONE_NUMBER>-05-26 20:53 adb*" I get "No command 'adb' found". I'm in the directory it's located in.
[23:10] <fisteri> Anybody know why Ubuntu 11.04 doesnt want to be installed? Downloaded .iso from web and burned it to a disc. When I boot from disc it goes 10 seconds nicely. Then I get message "uncompression errror, system halted" :(
[23:10] <tanath_> Israfel, using ./command instead of 'command'?
[23:11] <sudokill> fisteri, check the disk is burned proper
[23:11] <Arachon> fisteri: Perhaps the image is corrupted somehow?
[23:11] <tanath_> Israfel, current working directory is not in $PATH and not searched when looking for a command to be run. you need to specify that it's in current dir with ./something
[23:11] <sudokill> fisteri, sounds 99% like a bad copy
[23:11] <hiexpo> that command was all fubar
[23:11] <lsv> LAcan: try to rename the folder and then delete?
[23:11] <Israfel> tanath, That worked. Why does it need that extra path control?
[23:11] <fisteri> hmm...
[23:12] <Israfel> tanath, thanks
[23:12] <tanath_> Israfel, looking in working dir is a security risk
[23:12] <fisteri> So all I can really do is download image again and hope for better results?
[23:12] <Arachon> fisteri: You might want to check the md5sum on the image
[23:12] <ZykoticK9> tanath, +1 cwd "should not be" in $PATH ;)
[23:12] <sudokill> fisteri, yes, either that or bad ram
[23:12] <Arachon> to see if it's corrupted or not
[23:12] <LAcan> lsv, no go, renaming it didint work either
[23:12] <Arachon> fisteri: Or you can just burn it again and hope it works
[23:12] <fisteri> few months ago 10.10 went in :o
[23:13] <LAcan> i think im just gonna format the damn disk lol
[23:13] <NFischer> Hi all! im looking for an open VOIP-Solution fur Ubuntu.. do you have any suggestions for me?
[23:13] <tanath_> ZykoticK9, yay. where can i redeem my points? :P
[23:13] <lsv> LAcan: where is this folder?
[23:13] <fisteri> no big deal to download it again its less than 1gb
[23:13] <ZykoticK9> tanath_, ;)
[23:13] <EastDallas> NFischer: Astrisk
[23:13] <EastDallas> asterisk
[23:13] <LAcan> lsv, its a seperate logical partition, formatted as ntfs and mounted to my home directory
[23:14] <razbojnik> for fisteri - maybe already mentioned, but is your ISO for 32-bit or 64-bit?
[23:14] <tanath_> ZykoticK9, i accept bitcoin :P
[23:14] <[deXter]> Hi all, I installed the 64 bit flash plugin - how can I make sure that Firefox is using it and not the 32bit plugin? about:plugins doesn't tell if its 64 or 32 bit..
[23:14] <fisteri> razbojnik: its 64bit, why?
[23:15] <sudokill> it should say ndiswrapper if 32
[23:15] <tanath_> [deXter], doesn't it specify the path? you can run 'file /path' to see where the link points
[23:15] <anidear> Hi! I get "permission denied" when try to copy files from an external hard drive (ext4 format). anyone know how to solve this?
[23:15] <[deXter]> tanath_: Nah it doesn't specifiy the path otherwise I'd have used the file command..
[23:15] <lsv> LAcan: another user mention you should try to unmount the partition.  Check what Loshki said
[23:15] <sudokill> sudo cp
[23:15] <razbojnik> I tried to install 32-bit on my new laptop befor4e I finally realized it was a 64-bit system. Just asking from experience! ;)
[23:15] <tanath_> [deXter], er, so you have 32-bit and 64-bit installed?
[23:16] <KatronixSerf> Hi all, in gnome2, what program chooses the screen saver for you?
[23:16] <LAcan> lsv, Loshki but if i unmount how do I delete/access it?
[23:16] <sudokill> its in the system settings
[23:16] <Juest> anidear: you have read perms in that partition?
[23:16] <[deXter]> tanath_: Yeah, the 32 bit one was installed by ubuntu when I clicked on it in the software center; I had to install the 64 bit separately.
[23:16] <yulcher> pardon a n00b, what is the .thumbnails folder in /home/? Is it just a cache that can be safely deleted?
[23:16] <LAcan> lsv, Loshki ok, this is messed but i just managed to delete it now... all gone.. success i guess and ty for the help!
[23:17] <sudokill> afaik the 64 bit flash isnt maintained and is security risk
[23:17] <robrt`> KatronixSerf, if you're looking to assign a key to running it, have a look at System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts :-)
[23:17] <lsv> LAcan: How?
[23:17] <tanath_> [deXter], could you not then uninstall the 32-bit one?
[23:17] <lsv> LAcan: I want to learn :)
[23:17] <hiexpo> yulcher, do not delete that folder
[23:17] <KatronixSerf> robrt`, actually I'm looking to tell it which one I want it to use
[23:17] <tanath_> [deXter], might be simpler
[23:17] <LAcan> lsv, in nautilus, move to trash.. the easiest way :)
[23:17] <yulcher> can I empty it? or not touch it?
[23:17] <[deXter]> tanath_: Hmm, I haven't tried that, yeah.
[23:17] <lsv> LAcan: lol nice
[23:18] <tanath_> [deXter], but sudokill says something you might want to note
[23:18] <sudokill> yulcher, u can empty it
[23:18] <robrt`> KatronixSerf, System > Preferences > Screensavers?
[23:18] <hiexpo> yulcher, yes you can empty it
[23:18] <robrt`> Or do you mean you want to set it dynamically?
[23:18] <NFischer> EastDallas, Thanks but Asterisk seems pretty complicated.. im looking moore like an open Teamspeak-equivalent
[23:18] <zen> how to stop blank screen who appear periodically after not touching mouse or keyboard on laptop
[23:18] <KatronixSerf> robrt`, that tells me I'm using gnomescreensaver and not xscreensaver, then asks if I want to switch
[23:18] <LAcan> lsv, it was a mozilla cache directory backed up from my winbox... could have been windows locking it for a set period.. i fuess?
[23:18] <Juest> yulcher: yes, is nautilus thumbails,
[23:18] <LAcan> guess
[23:18] <[deXter]> tanath_, sudokill thanks but I use flashblock and only click on the flash video when I have to (youtube), so I'm not worried too much about, thanks.
[23:18] <yulcher> ty sudokill and hiexpo, it's just taking up a gig for 30,000 thumbnails, wnted to gain back the space
[23:19] <jible> is anyone here good at making gtk themes?
[23:19] <hiexpo> yulcher, install bleachbit butbe careful on the settings
[23:19] <sudokill> [deXter], up to you, i dont even use flash
[23:19] <coz_> jible,  gtk themes are painful at best to create
[23:19] <CarlFK> zen: prolly under system, prefs, power management
[23:19] <[deXter]> sudokill: then you don't watch youtube?
[23:19] <robrt`> KatronixSerf, haven't come across that before, sorry. Suppose it wouldn't hurt to switch to the default. Did you Google the full message?
[23:19] <jible> coz_, i'm trying to mod one, you any good with that?
[23:20] <lorac> does stato.com use linux as the hosting system when u choose power hosting?? please, need help!
[23:20] <sudokill> [deXter] html5 works on some vids
[23:20] <coz_> jible,   the easiest method is to download an theme and begin editing it including the gtkrc file
[23:20] <tanath_> [deXter], not as secure as chrome's click-to-play, but if you prefer firefox you'll have to make due
[23:20] <sudokill> [deXter] you can use some progs like minitube
[23:20] <coz_> jible,   I used to do it until it became painful :)
[23:20] <robrt`> lorac, ask their sales / customer support team. We won't know.
[23:20] <yulcher> hiexpo, I have bleachbit...which option would clear out the thumbnails folder?
[23:20] <sudokill> [deXter] ur better off using 32 bit flash 64 wil probably be well out of date
[23:20] <lsv> LAcan: Don't know, just glad you solved it ;D
[23:20] <jible> coz_, this is a gtk2 theme, i want to take one part of a theme and use it in another theme
[23:20] <zen> CarlFK , tried already, not working
[23:20] <[deXter]> sudokill: I'm on a low end machien (netbook) so I'd rather use the 64 bit.. will take all the performance I can get.
[23:20] <fisteri> had to switch for laptop, desktop comp is rebootin by itself :D
[23:20] <KatronixSerf> robrt`, no haven't yet, but I do know at my work we actually have two different screen saver under Preferences, one which shows the same message the other doesn't
[23:21] <tanath_> [deXter], sudokill there's also jdownloader to download youtube vids and such, which is another way to avoid flash
[23:21] <hiexpo> yulcher, i check them all except any that give you warnings
[23:21] <Juest> jible: get gnome color chooser
[23:21] <sudokill> [deXter] ok up to you
[23:21] <Juest> and go to engines tab
[23:21] <coz_> jible,  ah ok , that sounds even more complex,, you have to make sure the gtkrc file is pointing to the correct  png images or jpg  whichever it uses
[23:21] <zen> any hidden option for power management?
[23:21] <tanath_> EastDallas, still working on that bug report?
[23:21] <coz_> jible,   but there is so little written about th is and not  way to start from scratch easitly
[23:21] <[deXter]> sudokill: But thanks for the html5 suggestion; will see if youtube works just as well using it..
[23:21] <hiexpo> yulcher, keeps my system clean
[23:22] <Gotisch> is there a way to have the overlay-scrollbars on the left side of the orange bar, i.e. inside the window instead of outside it?
[23:22] <fisteri> btw, why 32bit ubuntu is recommended?
[23:22] <sudokill> [deXter] not all youtube vids work, and u have to go to the html5 section to enable it
[23:22] <cygnus> I upgraded from ubuntu 10 to ubuntu 11.4 now when it boots it says ubuntu has 5 red circles then is frozen, how can I debug this?
[23:22] <sudokill> html5 will go full one day
[23:22] <robrt`> fisteri, bigger availability of applications. Not everyone has ported over yet.
[23:22] <robrt`> A bit like IPv6. Chicken<>Egg..
[23:22] <coz_> Gotisch,  the overlay scrollbar will au tomatically go inside the window when the window is on the side of the monitor or perhaps another window is close by
[23:22] <yulcher> I'm using Disk Usage Analyzer and it's only accounting for ~45gigs, yet my system says I'm using ~95gigs...any ideas?
[23:23] <fisteri> okay, guess I made the right choice then
[23:23] <Gotisch> coz_: they wont if your gnome panel is next to it on the right
[23:23] <sudokill> fisteri, its only recommended because 32 bit works on all cpus so it's not to confuse noobs
[23:23] <Gotisch> so i ask if there is a way to force them to be
[23:23] <tanath_> yulcher, run 'df -h' in terminal and see what it says
[23:23] <robrt`> fisteri, unless you have over 4GB of ram and tend to use mem-hungry applications, yes.
[23:23] <coz_> Gotisch,  o h?  mm let me test here i assume you are on classic gnome ...yes?
[23:23] <nit-wit> cygnus, did you have to load a graphic driver in Maverick?
[23:23] <Gotisch> yes
[23:24] <zen> fisteri, how old is your MOBO?
[23:24] <edbian> I have this http://www.buy.com/prod/memorex-mini-dvd-player-mvd-2016-mvd2016-blk/q/loc/111/212500314.html DVD player and a .avi file (DVD rip from a friend)  Can I burn the .avi to a DVD-RW and play it in this player using brasero  ??
[23:24] <fisteri> Not sure yet what I am going to use :P
[23:24] <Gotisch> panel on right side of the screen, maximized window and overlay will go below the panel
[23:24] <sudokill> fisteri, 99% of apps work on 64 bit
[23:24] <coz_> Gotisch,  yep I see that.. mm you may want to report this as a bug
[23:24] <sudokill> fisteri, if u have 4gb of ram use 64
[23:24] <fisteri> damn it...
[23:24] <sudokill> its faster and slightly more secure
[23:24] <cygnus> nit-wit: I don't know, I used the gui upgrade option
[23:24] <fisteri> I have....
[23:24] <Gotisch> mh so no way to force them to be on the inside?
[23:24] <tanath_> yulcher, it might only be looking in your home folder or something
[23:24] <coz_> Gotisch,   also go to #ayatana channel,, let them know and maybe they have a solution
[23:25] <fisteri> 50% already on 32bit
[23:25] <hexatron> edbian i think you can use brasero but i have never used it
[23:25] <fisteri> this is day number 2 installing ubuntu back on desktop pc
[23:25] <yulcher> tanath_ df -h just tells me that my dev/sda1 has 86 gigs used...yet when I run disk usage analyzer on the same disk, it shows me a 25gig director, a 20, then nothing above 300MB
[23:25] <nit-wit> cygnus, boot the recovery kernel, you wil reach a gui choose the fasilsafe line.
[23:25] <Gotisch> its already reported i see
[23:25] <Gotisch> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-scrollbar/+bug/767823
[23:25] <robrt`> fisteri, hold on there. memory allocation is different under Linux
[23:25] <fisteri> Getting little bit frustrated
[23:25] <nit-wit> cygnus, failsafe x
[23:25] <sudokill> fisteri whats the matter
[23:25] <kubu2> sudokill: if you have 64-bit cpu then use 64-bit
[23:25] <robrt`> fisteri, whereas Windows will only allocate what it needs immediately, Linux will use what's available to speed things up
[23:25] <cygnus> nit-wit: is there something I have to press ? because it just boots without showing  any option where I can choose
[23:25] <tanath_> edbian, have a look at devede.
[23:26] <robrt`> that's in a nutshell. Read up on Linux memory management if you want to know more :-)
[23:26] <sudokill> kubu, not always depends on ur ram 64 bit uses more
[23:26] <fisteri> always some tard error when I try install it :(
[23:26] <tanath_> yulcher, lots of little things can add up
[23:26] <sudokill> if u have 64 bit cpu with 512 ram use 32
[23:26] <nit-wit> cygnus, power on and hold the shift down to get the grub menu. I presume this is not a wubi install.
[23:26] <kubu2> sudokill: I only have 1-gig and 64-bit is a lot quicker
[23:26] <jible> Juest, i don't get what i do from there
[23:26] <adi_> RMM3 and Ubuntu server does not work together does anybody has an idea?
[23:26] <cygnus> nit-wit: it's in virtual box
[23:26] <sudokill> placebo lol
[23:27] <coilbucker> I've been trying to set up evolution with my hotmail account. It sends fine, but it's not downloading messages when I hit send/recieve.
[23:27] <tanath_> yulcher, you can tell it where to look and point it at whole system and narrow down where usage is. but it won't have access to everything
[23:27] <Gotisch> thanks for info coz_
[23:27] <nit-wit> cygnus, the shift for the grub menu should work as soon as you hit start hold the shift down.
[23:27] <fisteri> ill maybe have to buy new pc. cuz now the windows 7 is giving error on everything
[23:27] <robrt`> coilbucker, correct me if I'm wrong - I'm not a Hotmail user - but as far as I know it doesn't support POP/IMAP unless you buy the 'Hotmail Plus' addon
[23:28] <robrt`> Switch to Gmail if you want all the goodies for free. :-)
[23:28] <yulcher> oh shit, you were right the first time tanath; Disk Usage Analyzer was just running over /home/ and my torrent downloads are outside of /home/
[23:28] <yulcher> I apologise :)
[23:28] <sudokill> fisteri what was ur original problem? the uncompress error? or was that someone else?
[23:28] <cygnus> nit-wit: ok thanks it's trying to boot recovery now
[23:28] <coilbucker> Recently, I thought they opened it up for free.
[23:28] <fisteri> sudokill:  no, it was me
[23:28] <tanath_> coilbucker, ew @ evolution and hotmail :P
[23:28] <sudokill> bad ram
[23:28] <sudokill> fisteri im 99% sure its bad ram or an unstable overclock
[23:28] <fisteri> same ram that already treated 10.10 ubuntu nicely
[23:28] <kubu2> sudokill: if you have 512 ram use i-bit
[23:29] <kubu2> 1-bit
[23:29] <fisteri> getting hotter....
[23:29] <robrt`> coilbucker, apparently they offer POP3 nowadays
[23:29] <fisteri> after previous ubuntu install I did some overclocking.
[23:29] <robrt`> .. christ, POP3 .. how dare they..
[23:29] <cygnus> nit-wit: so I should choose reconfigure graphics?
[23:29] <fisteri> Didnt go well it once said: temp overload :)
[23:30] <sudokill> if there was such a thing lol
[23:30] <sudokill> fisteri what u mean
[23:30] <sudokill> what said temp overload? thats not a system error lol
[23:30] <fisteri> Should by new parts rather than overclock I think
[23:30] <coilbucker> The stmp sending works fine, but the pop doesn't seem to work. It doesn't throw up any errors, but no messages show up in my inbox.
[23:30] <sudokill> reset to stock clocks then see if u get errors
[23:30] <robrt`> fisteri, and run memtest overnight
[23:30] <fisteri> bios window said it
[23:30] <robrt`> It's included in your boot menu by default anyway, may as well give it a shot just in case
[23:30] <sudokill> fisteri u prob upped ur voltage randomly like a noob lol
[23:30] <nit-wit> cygnus, 4th or 5th line scroll down to failsafe x or safeboot something like rhat, we want a safe graphic boot.
[23:30] <nit-wit> *that
[23:30] <fisteri> bad ram can cause "auto reboot" ?
[23:31] <lsv> bye world
[23:31] <sudokill> psu maybe
[23:31] <tanath> fisteri: bad ram can cause lots of things
[23:31] <cygnus> nit-wit: yep it's booted
[23:31] <sudokill> fisteri it could be anything
[23:31] <sudokill> reset clocks to stock first!
[23:31] <sudokill> then u can rule that 1 out
[23:31] <robrt`> exactly, it depends on what piece of your ram is fried
[23:31] <fisteri> did that already
[23:31] <sudokill> random reboots? or resets?
[23:31] <sudokill> resets = normally bad psu
[23:31] <Arachon> Anyone could have an idea of where network-manager-applet can have gone?
[23:31] <nit-wit> cygnus, I would update the Natty and run the guest additons agin hopefully this will load whatever graphics works in that vbox.
[23:31] <Arachon> Or nm-applet or wherever it may be called?
[23:32] <Arachon> *whatever
[23:32] <sudokill> but could be mobo, or other things
[23:32] <cygnus> nit-wit: ok thanks
[23:32] <fisteri> randon reboots
[23:32] <tanath> Arachon: did you try the 'indicator applet complete'?
[23:32] <kozup> My dad upgraded to natty and not the computer won't boot and drops to grub. I booted using a liveCD to see if I could reconfigure it, but it looks like there's an LVM? I have no idea what that is there for considering nothing (that i know of) is RAIDed. Anyone have any debugging tips?
[23:32] <sudokill> fisteri so it actually shuts down and reboots properly, by itself?
[23:32] <nit-wit> cygnus, when you ugrade a distro you need to look in the software sources asd to what repos need to be turned back on and adjusted to that distro.
[23:33] <Arachon> tanath: Yes, it gives me sound, mail, session, chat and shutdow
[23:33] <robrt`> kozup, mount the drive and have a peek at /var/log/dmesg
[23:33] <fisteri> yep, picture just disappears and the startup beep comes along
[23:33] <fisteri> and voila its starting all over again
[23:33] <cygnus> nit-wit: what is asd?
[23:33] <robrt`> (note: the dmesg of the original hard drive, not of the live disk .. so probably /mnt/yourdrive/var/log/dmesg)
[23:33] <adi_> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1487618.html Any idea aoub tis error?
[23:33] <sudokill> fisteri, so it doesnt shutdown properly just "resets"
[23:33] <fisteri> okay =)
[23:33] <nit-wit> cygnus, typo as was the intention.
[23:34] <sudokill> could be anything still, temp too high, psu, mobo
[23:34] <cygnus> nit-wit: so you mean like google upgrade and see what problems people have?
[23:34] <kozup> robrt`: I can't figure out how to mount it in Disk Utility. It's listed tiwce: once under the PATA host adapter and once under "Multi-disk devices" (which is weird cause it's a single drive). There's no mount disk option on either of them
[23:34] <nit-wit> cygnus, do you know what the software sources is.
[23:34] <tanath> Arachon: you said you have gnome-netstatus-applet installed, yes?
[23:34] <cygnus> nit-wit: no
[23:35] <fisteri> can u install ubuntu on mac? If i get laptop I was thinking macbook pro any pros and cons?
[23:35] <sudokill> yes u can
[23:35] <robrt`> fisteri, sure. I did it, works fine.
[23:35] <tanath> Arachon: wait, nvm. i have it but i don't have that installed
[23:35] <sudokill> fisteri but why pay money for a macbook and use ubuntu?
[23:35] <robrt`> You'll be able to use Bootcamp to set up the partition
[23:35] <sudokill> u can get better spec for less
[23:35] <fisteri> I want mac anyway
[23:35] <robrt`> sudokill, MacBook Pro's are awesome. That's why.
[23:35] <sudokill> to put ubuntu on it?
[23:35] <Centallith> fisteri: Macbooks use outdated hardware for a higher price. Just get a Dell.
[23:36] <robrt`> There's not a better laptop out there.  I cant browse for a folder to put something in. I have to type the path. FAIL
[23:36] <sudokill> if u buy a mac u might as well use osx
[23:36] <edbian> tanath: This looks like it will work perfectly.  Thank you!
[23:36] <tanath> Arachon: network-manager-gnome
[23:36] <Logan_> !mac | fisteri
[23:36] <sudokill> unless u got given one
[23:36] <fisteri> sudokill yes along side with mac os if its possible
[23:36] <Arachon> tanath: Yes, that's installed
[23:36] <tanath> edbian: it's great :)
[23:36] <yassine_hell_> grub error 15... help?
[23:36] <cygnus> nit-wit: are you talking about virtual box?
[23:36] <Omega> tripelb: Are you looking for help or are you looking to rant?
[23:37] <fisteri> and i use iphone, so mac would be better mate for it than windows pc
[23:37] <tanath> edbian: for burning, the best app is k3b. has lots of KDE dependencies, but it's worth it
[23:37] <sudokill> fisteri go for it
[23:37] <sudokill> macs r nice
[23:37] <nit-wit> cygnus open synaptic and click on settings-repositories, that is where hyou want to make sure thath stuff is clicked in. The second tab other, jas the stuff you have added, if it was a 3rd party it was turned of in the upgrade edit them to natty and click them on.
[23:37] <Centallith> tripelb: Try using Insert rather than.... Whatever you have been doing. I can find it through that. No file paths for me.
[23:37] <edbian> tanath: I've used K3b is great. But does devede not burn for me?  Just create the file?
[23:37] <tanath> Arachon: network-manager-gnome is installed? try reinstalling it? try logging out and back in?
[23:37] <sudokill> shame they were proven to be less secure than windows 7
[23:37] <hexatron> lol
[23:37] <fisteri> whats is secure these days?
[23:38] <tanath> edbian: it does everything from video to ready-to-burn iso. then you burn it with a burning app
[23:38] <nit-wit> cygnus hyou=you  thath=that   jas=is  sorry
[23:38] <sudokill> linux?
[23:38] <sudokill> bsd
[23:38] <taglass> fisteri: a compter enacased in cnocrete
[23:38] <sudokill> u can make most os secure
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> sudokill: depends on config
[23:38] <sudokill> of course
[23:38] <robrt`> sudokill, um, OS X is BSD-based (NeXT, actually)
[23:38] <sudokill> not bsd
[23:38] <fisteri> staying wireless? meaning (zero contact with comps) :D
[23:38] <sudokill> tho
[23:38] <Arachon> tanath: Tried rebooting, relogging etc, but I'll try reinstall the package
[23:38] <edbian> tanath: I will create an iso.  I am looking to waste the least amount of DVDs here and get a DVD playing in the player as quickly and easily as possible.
[23:38] <edbian> tanath:
[23:38] <Centallith> Linux is pretty much the only secure OS out there nowadays. As OS X goes more and more mainstream viruses are being created at a much higher level for them.
[23:39] <edbian> tanath: Am I on the right track?  Should a make an ISO with devede and burn it with brasero (I don't need k3b to just burn an iso)
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> sudokill: detatch any OS from any network and it's the most secure in the world
[23:39] <tanath> edbian: then you want devede + k3b
[23:39] <Omega> robrt`: That's only the kernel.
[23:39] <sudokill> ActionParsnip, thats such a common answer lol
[23:39] <robrt`> Omega, sssh. ;-)
[23:39] <edbian> tanath: What does k3b offer that brasero doesn't?
[23:39] <tanath> edbian: brasero is sufficient for most things yes
[23:39] <sudokill> u have to trade useability for security but u can still make it proper secure
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> sudokill: its true though
[23:39] <Centallith> Run Infrarecorder through Wine. Beats them all.
[23:40] <fisteri> I really cant choose os by its security goodies
[23:40] <edbian> tanath: Do I have to worry about these title's and such?  Can I create just 1 title with the movie file in it and not worry about the rest?
[23:40] <bencc1> when trying to switch user "su debarchiver" I'm giving the correct password but it gives me "su: Authentication failure"
[23:40] <bencc1> why?
[23:40] <sudokill> grsec patch is probably the best ive used
[23:40] <cygnus> nit-wit: thanks
[23:40] <fisteri> cuz I think every os is good on some section
[23:40] <sudokill> fisteri most people dont care
[23:40] <robrt`> Fact of the matter is; use what you think will work best for you. Whether that's a Dell with Ubuntu, a MBP with Ubuntu, or an MBP with Ubuntu/OS X in dualboot. :-)
[23:40] <nit-wit> cygnus, no prob.
[23:40] <Logan_> !ot
[23:40] <sudokill> msot people still use xp
[23:40] <fisteri> sudokill:  i think im one of them
[23:40] <tanath> edbian: yup. might want to set the title name too
[23:40] <sage1> anyone know where i should go for help debugging an X video corruption problem after my laptop resumes?
[23:40] <The_Explorer> Does anyone know an "all-in-one" file manager? So i can skip folders and look at possible redundant music and etc.
[23:40] <fisteri> cuz banks are too hard to hack in my country
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> sage1: dmesg may ive clues, try ssh-ing in with another system
[23:41] <robrt`> fisteri, we can continue this in #ubuntu-offtopic actually :-)
[23:41] <g0t> Exploere try ranger
[23:41] <edbian> tanath: Instead of title1.  Thanks
[23:41] <fisteri> u cant even login without some 6 digit shit
[23:41] <edbian> tanath: I'm trusting you!!!
[23:41] <Logan_> !x | sage1
[23:41] <sudokill> fisteri
[23:41] <tanath> edbian: yeah, that's the default. double-click to rename, IIRC
[23:41] <Logan_> !language | fisteri
[23:41] <sage1> ActionParsnip: works well enough to use, just have to make it redraw the screen periodically.  nothing suspicous in dmesg
[23:41] <tanath> edbian: lol. you shouldn't be disappointed
[23:42] <fisteri> sry....
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> sage1: are there any bugs reported?
[23:42] <fisteri> after money things i wont care anything
[23:42] <edbian> tanath: Thanks again.  This is exactly what I was looking for :)
[23:42] <sage1> ActionParsnip: in the existing bugs the video isn't working at all.  still searching
[23:42] <Omega> fisteri: But who needs to hack a bank if they can hack you? (if you use an unsecure OS)
[23:42] <davec23> Hi, anyone tried getting mame to work with Ubuntu?
[23:43] <coolty> lol
[23:43] <Omega> fisteri: And your personal data is very important too!
[23:43] <fisteri> cant see why
[23:43] <sudokill> lol
[23:43] <sudokill> fisteri dont care
[23:43] <fisteri> :D
[23:43] <sudokill> go for it
[23:43] <fisteri> "personal data"
[23:43] <tanath> edbian: np. apparently brasero doesn't warrant a mention on wikipedia though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_disc_authoring_software
[23:43] <sudokill> plug ur ethernet cable straight into ur modem, use a pre sp1 xp with no firewall
[23:44] <tanath> edbian: main thing is, i find k3b to be more reliable
[23:44] <Omega> fisteri: Yes, like pictures that you might find importantant, or passwords for your bank account.
[23:44] <fisteri> what could be so important information?
[23:44] <sudokill> fisteri tbh it depends
[23:44] <sudokill> i dont store any on mine
[23:44] <fisteri> Omega u have to let go from the bank thing.
[23:44] <edbian> tanath: a-ha!  Thanks :)
[23:44] <sudokill> if someone hacked me theyd be disappointed
[23:44] <fisteri> with password u cant do nothing
[23:45] <sudokill> apart from crack it
[23:45] <Omega> fisteri: You brought up banking my friend.
[23:45] <sudokill> anyway...
[23:45] <tanath> fisteri: yay, double-negative
[23:45] <mouse> I'm having problems with the startup disk creator.  The bootable usbs is makes don't work right.  Has anyone noticed this?
[23:45] <fisteri> okay ill guess i was wrong =)
[23:45] <Omega> fisteri: Why can't they do anything? Can't a intruder just wait until you enter all your credentials and then lock you out?
[23:46] <Omega> (I'm just concerned for you)
[23:46] <sudokill> why
[23:46] <sudokill> im not lol
[23:46] <Logan_> !ot | Omega
[23:46] <fisteri> =)
[23:46] <edbian> ugh, k3b depends on the universe
[23:46] <tanath> edbian: compare http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brasero_(software)#Features vs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K3b#Features
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> edbian: well, qt
[23:47] <edbian> tanath: Oh I know k3b has more features. No doubt about that.  But brasero is lighter
[23:47] <Omega> Logan_: He asked why having a secure OS is important.
[23:47] <edbian> ActionParsnip: yeah
[23:47] <sudokill> brasero is nice
[23:47] <Logan_> Omega: yes, but it's off topic
[23:47] <Omega> Logan_: Don't you think that's worthy of answering?
[23:47] <edbian> sudokill: Ever have any issues burning iso with it?
[23:47] <sudokill> no
[23:47] <sudokill> brasero is great
[23:47] <sudokill> nice and simple
[23:47] <tanath> brasero makes me wonder if i try to burn an iso if it'll burn the iso as an image or a data disc with .iso file :P
[23:48] <tanath> it's _too_ simplistic
[23:48] <edbian> tanath: Haha, I never get confused about that.
[23:48] <sudokill> tanath it has a data section
[23:48] <sudokill> tanath if u wana burn iso u choose the "burn iso" option
[23:48] <tanath> my point is, it's too simplistic.
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> gnomebaker rocks
[23:48] <sudokill> no its not
[23:48] <edbian> tanath: Thank you for all the advice.
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> or xfburn
[23:48] <edbian> sudokill: tanath 'too simplistic' is opinion
[23:48] <tanath> gnomebaker was alright, but i haven't used it in forever. don't need anything other than k3b
[23:49] <tanath> edbian: np
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> tanath: depends ifyou can accommodate the Qt dep bloat
[23:49] <tanath> ActionParsnip: indeed. but if you can, i think it's worth it
[23:49] <tanath> other apps aren't as reliable in my experience
[23:50] <antihero> I removed orca via the software centre but now it seems to launch some python process that eats my CPU
[23:50] <tanath> especially on a lower end system
[23:50] <sudokill> tanath, what complexity do you require to burn an iso to disk?
[23:50] <Omega> Logan_: He was asking about installing Ubuntu on a mac, and then asked why he should do it, pretty on-topic if you ask me.
[23:50] <Guest82965> Hey I have a question - I have a boot failure on my laptop and I come to a screen where all I can do is do recovery mode from different kernels, but in recovery mode even / fails to mount
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> tanath: I guess, i don't burn many CDs
[23:50] <tanath> sudokill: in that case it's just a lot more clear about what you're doing / what it'll do
[23:50] <kozup> anyone have any idea how to boot from this drive? http://i.imgur.com/Scd3O.png There's of a screenshot of what Drive Utility looks like froma live cd. I can't mount it it seems like.
[23:50] <kozup> robrt`: here's a screenshot http://i.imgur.com/Scd3O.png
[23:51] <mouse> I'm having problems with the startup disk creator.  The bootable usbs is makes don't work right.  Has anyone noticed this?
[23:51] <tanath> ActionParsnip: it's very good with buffers and such and excellent burner support i've found
[23:51] <tripelb> Omega, off-topic take it to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to do that.
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> tanath: ive always used gnomebaker, brasero seems to sit around for an age doing very little
[23:51] <Gleb1> hello please say me where are russian version of this room
[23:51] <tanath> lol
[23:51] <sudokill> ubuntu-kalashnikov
[23:52] <rww> Gleb1: #ubuntu-ru
[23:52] <Guest82965> ive had problems with the start up disk creator too. i did the virtual machine
[23:52] <Gleb1> thaks
[23:52] <tanath> ActionParsnip: i used to use it a bit when it was newish, but whenever i need to burn something i fire up k3b and am happ
[23:52] <sage1> ActionParsnip: should i open a bug? or talk to ts first?
[23:52] <tripelb> Centallith, I've tried it twice. I've had an unsuccessful experience with LibreOffice both times. The only reason I tried it this second time is that abiword does not accept images.  This for the first time will drive me back to Windows
[23:53] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, that brasero "sittin' doin' nothing" has something to do with MD5 sum generating, it's possible to disable it somehow - results in a much nicer brasero experience ;)
[23:53] <sudokill> just untick the md5 plugin
[23:53] <tripelb> lurker says to sudokill, thanks
[23:54] <sudokill> :)
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: i see, I don't burn many CDs now. i have a file server ;)
[23:54] <tanath> k3b lets you ignore the md5sum thing and simply proceed
[23:54] <Guest82965> when recovery mode fails to mount / , what can I do?
[23:54] <sudokill> tanath so does brasero
[23:54] <tanath> ActionParsnip: ;)
[23:54] <sudokill> they all aultimately do the same thing pretty much depends what ui u like
[23:54] <sudokill> i prefer simple things, i prefer gnome to kde
[23:55] <sudokill> other prefer kde
[23:55] <tanath> sudokill: sometimes. sometimes it's not a matter of preference
[23:55] <sudokill> talking about burning an iso to disk
[23:55] <sudokill> lol
[23:55] <tanath> sudokill: even then