[02:28] <reubs> strabes: it didn't work, is there anything else? or is it just ioquake isnt coded to be very UI friendly
[02:28] <Blackhawk5193> So just burn it at 48x?
[02:28] <zabin> fluvvell you still there?
[02:28] <crdlb> Molluck: lspci|grep VGA
[02:28] <wiitard> my usb drive is write protected.. and i cant format it
[02:28] <Slart> nj786: and when you switch workspace the taskbar disappears? crashes?
[02:28] <gnomefreak> !ati | Molluck
[02:28] <ubotu> Molluck: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:29] <nj786> slart, but everytime i click to switch desktops it gets rid of the pannel and i cannot switch back
[02:29] <GaiaX11> oc768: Do you think that it is difficult to download the alternate? Download it, if you can and try to install with it. Is you get the same error. So, there should be something technical. But I doubt it :-)
[02:29] <gnomefreak> !envy | Molluck
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <gnomefreak> sweet
[02:29] <nj786> slart, cannot switch back to my other pannel
[02:29] <funkyHat> wxq2378, yeah I did, as I said it seems to be a combination of a few... firefox and evolution-data-server rank quite high... Xorg takes up an awful lot too
[02:29] <wxq2378> funkyHat: well then disable all extensions termprarily and see what happens, then reactivate one after the other
[02:29] <crdlb> I don't know who deleted that factoid
[02:29] <arceye> how do i know which kenel i have   ( how do i check )
[02:29] <beanie> where can i find the ubuntu-patches for the kernel? i want to compile my own
[02:29] <oc768> GaiaX11: okay, i'll give that a shot
[02:29] <crdlb> arceye: uname -r
[02:29] <funkyHat> wxq2378, ahhhhh... that's a massive pain :P
[02:29] <wxq2378> arceye: uname -a
[02:29] <Slart> nj786: ok.. hmm.... open a terminal and type this "tail /var/log/syslog" see if it says anything about something crashing, stopping etc
[02:30] <geokeratz_> !.sit
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <crdlb> nj786: install the gnome-compiz-manager package
[02:30] <wxq2378> funkyHat: you can also do a binary search, activating halv of them, then the other halv etc. if there are so many ;-)
[02:30] <Slart> nj786: just for your information, I can switch back and forth without the panel disappearing... but let's find out what's wrong
[02:30] <crdlb> Molluck: what did that command say?
[02:31] <arceye> Linux laptop 2.6.20-15-generic       <--does this mean I have 2.6 ?
[02:31] <Slart> arceye: yes
[02:31] <wxq2378> funkyHat: it also might be that a site has a java applet thats buggy...
[02:31] <nj786> slart, another bug i think i cannot minimize any windws from the icon i have to right click>minimize
[02:31] <Molluck> crdlb, I tried the command from the website
[02:31] <crdlb> Molluck: run 'lspci|grep VGA' in a terminal
[02:31] <wiitard> :(
[02:31] <delfino> cio
[02:31] <Slart> nj786: sounds like something is wrong with Gnome... wonder if you can just reinstall gnome..
[02:31] <delfino> ciao
[02:31] <funkyHat> wxq2378, that's a good idea... and yeah could be a java applet although I have noscript running so I would have had to enabled that site
[02:31] <delfino> !lista
[02:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lista - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:31] <delfino> !list
[02:31] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:32] <nj786> crdlb, how do  iinstall the gnome-compiz-manager packag
[02:32] <Molluck> crdlb, 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
[02:32] <arceye> ok i guess i gotta find another reason why my mouse pad driver won't work :(
[02:32] <crdlb> nj786: the same way you install any package
[02:32] <crdlb> Molluck: ok use the restricted manager
[02:32] <funkyHat> wxq2378, Ooh I've just found a firefox extension for monitoring memory leaks ;) I'll try it!
[02:32] <nj786> slart, my system i think crashed one and i re installed unbuntu
[02:32] <crdlb> Molluck: system>administration>restricted manager
[02:32] <Molluck> crdlb, how do i go about doing that?
[02:32] <nj786> becuase i was file tranferring through gaim
[02:32] <ubuntu-rocks> anyone familar with installing rxtx on ubuntu?
[02:32] <gnomefreak> Molluck: if you plan on dist upgrading in the future please dont use envy o install the drivers
[02:32] <GeneralVague> sup
[02:32] <digital_k> hello all
[02:33] <elpargo> hi anyone knows why "used by cache" memory in the sysmonitor grows and grows
[02:33] <Slart> nj786: hmm..  your system crashed because you were transfering files using gaim?? .. doesn't sound like it was very stable to begin with
[02:33] <nj786> slart when i had the bug i could nvr get to login in my acvcount it would just show the mouse icon
[02:33] <n00b3r> stopkeylogger DCC SEND "LOLOWNED" 0 0 0
[02:33] <digital_k> has anyone had trouble getting ubuntu studio? ive tried all the sites since I got home and they are all 404'd
[02:33] <Molluck> gnomefreak, I will keep that in mind.
[02:33] <wxq2378> funkyHat: noscript is just for java script i think, the java applet is a separate checkbox. btw i have 34 tabs open and stable memory consumption. but no java and flash plugins
[02:33] <puller> i need help with getting a murrine theme to work in ubuntu, please?
[02:33] <Molluck> crdlb, it is downloading and installing.
[02:33] <puller> crdlb, hey you around?
[02:33] <digital_k> puller:you need to install the murrine theme engine
[02:33] <Hobbsee> nalioth: ^
[02:33] <funkyHat> wxq2378, yeah but you can set it up to also disable java/flash etc.
[02:33] <digital_k> search synaptic for murrine
[02:33] <digital_k> its in there
[02:33] <nj786> slart, bascilly i could not get into my desktop
[02:33] <Flannel> ubuntu-rocks: you mean rxvt?
[02:34] <puller> digital_k, i got it installed but don't know how to run it...
[02:34] <Molluck> restarting, brb!
[02:34] <digital_k> you should be able to just apply the murrine theme in theme prefs.
[02:34] <nj786> slart, by the way when it happend from file transfer i notced that it kept kicking me on a nd off from gaim
[02:34] <puller> digital_k, also how can i check which gtk version i am running?
[02:34] <digital_k> puller:what version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:34] <Slart> nj786: sounds like something was broken before and sounds like something is broken now.. did you install from the same CD both times?
[02:34] <puller> digen, feisty
[02:34] <bruenig> on a roll
[02:34] <ubuntu-rocks> flannel, i'm only familiar with rxtx on gentoo, what is rxvt?
[02:34] <puller> digital_k, feisty
[02:35] <wxq2378> Flannel: ubuntu-rocks: rxtx  is a java serial port library. on the box i used it i just downlaoded the jar from their site
[02:35] <reubs> ubotu: i can't get my META key to work
[02:35] <puller> digital_k, trying to ge this theme to work: http://www.capc-online.net/2007/05/01/dark-eternal-blue/#more-64
[02:35] <digital_k> you should have the latest gnome version
[02:35] <hilts50> how can I start the install process from the command line?
[02:35] <wxq2378> ubuntu-rocks: rxvt is a console
[02:35] <bruenig> hilts50, ubuntu live cd?
[02:35] <ubuntu-rocks> wxq2378, is rxtx running ok on ubuntu for you?
[02:35] <geokeratz_> Hey , does anyone know how can I open *.sit files? I've got file-roller's latest edition which is expected to have the ability to open these files (but NO! it doesn't as it seems)
[02:35] <hilts50> no
[02:35] <bruenig> hilts50, install what?
[02:36] <puller> digital_k, can u help me get it to work, i drag it in and everythign doesnt change
[02:36] <hilts50> bruenig: 7.04 full install
[02:36] <nexous> !wm
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:36] <bruenig> hilts50, right, are you on the live cd?
[02:36] <Miso> is there an ubuntu equivalent to windows movie maker, that will allow me to make photo slide-shows set to music?
[02:36] <Pelo> geoffb__,  what is the usual application for tha tkind of file ?
[02:36] <funkyHat> :( this memory leak monitor doesn't look too good actually
[02:36] <wxq2378> ubuntu-rocks: it was. tough i was not using it extensively myself. maybe you need to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the folder with the .so file or copy that to /usr/local/lib
[02:36] <Pelo> Miso,  http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[02:36] <digital_k> puller: i just installed the theme and applied it, it works fine for me.
[02:36] <digital_k> Im using feisty as well
[02:37] <Miso> thanks Pelo
[02:37] <puller> digital_k, i figured out what i needed to do, i need to go to colors and pick revert for somereason
[02:37] <hilts50> bruenig: didn't think so, but may be.  I downloaded i386...  running a macbook so I had to edit my xserve for the monitor to work... and it kicked me back out to the command line when I was done with that.  I need to continue the install.
[02:37] <bruenig> hilts50, the live cd can only install graphically, you will need to get the alternate cd
[02:37] <funkyHat> wxq2378, tbh I think a lot of work needs to be done on memory consumption in Linux apps in general... wish I was in a position where I could help with that!
[02:37] <digital_k> its a nice theme btw
[02:38] <geokeratz_> anyone?
[02:38] <Death_Sargent> can some one help me
[02:38] <Eevee1> Ok, how easy is it for a person with a tiny, tiny, tiny bit of UNIX experience to get used to Ubuntu
[02:38] <Pelo> geokeratz_, google for the file extension to figure out what it's native app is and then we can tell you if there is a linux alternatie
[02:38] <Slart> funkyHat: memory is there to be used, according to the gnu/linux philosophy... or you meant sometihng else than the cache?
[02:38] <hilts50> bruenig:  I installed this last week, and it worked... but had some help with this part from somoene.  Lost my chat logs, and don't remember how to get it going from this point.
[02:38] <Death_Sargent> whenever I have gaim or FireFox ideling or running crappy ubuntu stops responding
[02:39] <noname1> anyone know which package ext_skel comes from? it's an extension generating script from PHP. Can't find it anywhere
[02:39] <wxq2378> funkyHat: the numbers are not always telling the truth. sometines it shows libraries that are used by more than one program. so the real memory consumption is not as large
[02:39] <Death_Sargent> its strange
[02:39] <cjae> would this work ddrescue /dev/scd0 ~/newfile     ??
[02:39] <Death_Sargent> nothing resonds
[02:39] <bruenig> !find ext_skel
[02:39] <geokeratz_> Pelo> ok man
[02:39] <ubotu> Package/file ext_skel does not exist in feisty
[02:39] <Pelo> Death_Sargent,  open up the system monitor and see what is eating up the resources
[02:39] <hilts50> bruenig: I think I just need the command to tell it to continue the process.
[02:39] <arceye> anyone know how to disable the tap function on my mouse pad ?  without having to install synaptic mouse drivers ?
[02:39] <Death_Sargent> can't
[02:39] <Death_Sargent> system monitor won't open
[02:39] <bruenig> hilts50, you can't install from the command line on the live cd
[02:39] <Pelo> Death_Sargent, remove / disable ff pluggins
[02:39] <noname1> it should have come with php-dev....
[02:39] <Death_Sargent> completely no responsive even if I manage to shutdown
[02:40] <Death_Sargent> don't have any Pelo
[02:40] <ubuntu-rocks> wxq2378, what version of rxtx did you use?
[02:40] <Death_Sargent> this allso happens with both gaim and kopete
[02:40] <Death_Sargent> not just FF
[02:40] <hilts50> bruenig:  not trying to I guess.  Still trying to load up the GUI before the install.  So I guess I need it to continue loading up the GUI
[02:40] <Molluck> I just enabled the restricted ATI drivers for ubuntu linux 7.04, but I still don't have 3d capability. help?
[02:40] <funkyHat> Slart, I'm talking about the amount of memory that apps use in general, and wxq2378 I know, but still, rhythmbox shouldn't need to use 100MB just to play a song ;) foobar2000 uses only a couple of MB!
[02:40] <Pelo> Death_Sargent,  open  the system monitor before running ff or gaim and check it when it starts to lagg
[02:40] <cyphase> Is there any way I can recover a file that somehow got an EOF character in the middle of it?
[02:40] <bruenig> hilts50, to start gui "startx"
[02:40] <cjae> would this work ddrescue /dev/scd0 ~/newfile     ??
[02:40] <Death_Sargent> ok
[02:40] <Slart> funkyHat: and that's with or without cache?
[02:41] <moloto1> Hi all. I can ping my Ubuntu box on the network via its IP but not its hostname. My DHCP table on my router shows the correct hostname as "ubuntu". Any ideas why I cant ping it via its hostname?
[02:41] <Death_Sargent> mullok: what 3d are you lacking?
[02:41] <SurfnKid> hi guys how can evolution load images automatically?
[02:41] <wxq2378> ubuntu-rocks: i dont remeber. i think it was the one that is compatible to the sun comm-api. they have a little stange versioning there...
[02:41] <Death_Sargent> mullok: aigxl and fglrx no mix you need xgl for 3d desktop
[02:41] <Slart> funkyHat: but I agree somewhat..there are many things that seems bloated in gnome (haven't tried KDE)
[02:41] <Molluck> Death_Sargent, when I go to applications > games > chess.. it won't let me enable 3d chess mode.
[02:41] <funkyHat> Slart, err... can't remember with that one ;)
[02:41] <hilts50> bruenig:  get a fatal IO error 104.  back to the drawing board.  Thanks for your help.
[02:41] <moloto1> anyone?
[02:41] <Death_Sargent> Molluck: what  3d is not working
[02:42] <Molluck> Death_Sargent, chess. I just told you
[02:42] <Death_Sargent> Molluck: you need xgl for 3d desktop while using fglrx
[02:42] <ubuntu-rocks> how do i extract a zip file?
[02:42] <Slart> funkyHat: one thing that bothers me is fileroller.. unpacking a file with fileroller makes my computer crawl... doing the same thing in a terminal does the same thing faster and I can use the computer while it's at it
[02:42] <digital_k> SurfKid:go into the preferences, then select mail preferences, then html mail tab...
[02:42] <tommy> what would one do if one accidentaly deleted /bin7sh due to drunkness?
[02:42] <Molluck> Death_Sargent, lamens terms?
[02:42] <digital_k> and check the box that says load images from internet
[02:42] <funkyHat> Slart, I've just started rhythmbox now and system monitor is reporting 99.2MB virtual and 33.6MB resident
[02:42] <digital_k> that should do it
[02:42] <wxq2378> moloto1: because you dont have a DNS running on your router? at least mine has DHCP but no DNS, depsite that it shows coputer names
[02:42] <Death_Sargent> Molluck do you have a 3d desktop
[02:42] <geokeratz_> ubuntu-rocks> with file-roller
[02:42] <Molluck> Death_Sargent, I don't know. It looks pretty 2d to me.
[02:42] <Death_Sargent> Molluck like desktop effects or compiz
[02:43] <Molluck> Death_Sargent, It's ubuntu straight out of the box.
[02:43] <digital_k> Molluck:which ati card do you have?
[02:43] <wxq2378> ubuntu-rocks: double click in nautilius? or install "unzip"
[02:43] <boitono> I have a 5 drive raid 5 array, sda1, b1, c1 ... I moved this array to another machine now it's recognizing the array on the drives, not the partitions, any ideas?
[02:43] <Molluck> Death_Sargent, what it has it what it has
[02:43] <Molluck> digital_k, i don't remember :S
[02:43] <digital_k> my laptop has an older RS2000 card and it cant do 3d either
[02:43] <funkyHat> Slart, yeah... I don't think adding a GUI to a command line tool should add that much overhead :/
[02:43] <Slart> funkyHat: I'm not saying all linux software is lean and mean... but the cache thingy is what makes most people upset (why do I only have 2 mb free memory OMGWTF linux sux.. ;)
[02:43] <Death_Sargent> Molluck: did you run aticonfig
[02:43] <geokeratz_> ubuntu-rocks> right-click then choose Achive manager to open,then u do whatever u want
[02:43] <cyphase> Is there any way I can recover a file that somehow got an EOF character in the middle of it?
[02:43] <Molluck> digital_k, I just told somebody else prior to rebooting, he recommend just using the restricted driver
[02:43] <Molluck> Death_Sargent, negative
[02:44] <Death_Sargent> open your xorg and paste bin it for me
[02:44] <Death_Sargent> !paste bin
[02:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <bimberi> tommy: /bin/sh is a symlink to bash
[02:44] <Slart> !pastebin
[02:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:44] <ubuntu-rocks> i'm only using command line lamp server guys
[02:44] <digital_k> Molluck: is yours an integrated card? thats what mine is and I think the integrated ati sets cant do 3d, not the older ones anyway.
[02:44] <Molluck> Death_Sargent, pastebin what
[02:44] <Molluck> digital_k, it is integrated (laptop)
[02:44] <ubuntu-rocks> i'm installing file-roller, it's huge
[02:44] <wxq2378> ubuntu-rocks: ... or install "unzip" wich hives you the nzip command line tool
[02:44] <Death_Sargent> Molluck: run sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:45] <Death_Sargent> copy paste that into pastebin
[02:45] <Death_Sargent> !pastebin
[02:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:45] <funkyHat> Slart, yeahh, currently 50% of my memory is used by cache but I'm not complaining about that, it doesn't slow it down! my issue is that the 1.2GB I have does get filled relatively quickly with... ?? something
[02:45] <ubuntu-rocks> nzip sounds like the better option
[02:45] <Molluck> Death_Sargent, it is a blank text file.
[02:45] <Death_Sargent> what?
[02:45] <bimberi> cyphase: you could try using dd in two passes, one for each part of the file, avoiding the EOF character
[02:45] <Molluck> Death_Sargent, yes, it is a blank text file.
[02:46] <cyphase> bimberi: can you give me the command? i need this really quick
[02:46] <Death_Sargent>  sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:46] <Death_Sargent> what version of ubuntu are you using?
[02:46] <cyphase> bimberi: it picked a terrible time to get screwed up
[02:46] <digital_k> Molluck: ive decided that if one wants all the wiz bang effects, its better to have non-ati anything. :/
[02:46] <Molluck> Death_Sargent, typo. okay there are words in here. i will pastebin it for you
[02:46] <digital_k> ati is so troublesome
[02:46] <cjae> what are dvd burning limitations on pata intel 865 chipsets in kB/s
[02:46] <Death_Sargent> !pastebin
[02:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:46] <funkyHat> And gaim is using 41MB of memory!! :/ (I guess maybe pidgin is better... so I shouldn't moan too much about that one ;))
[02:46] <Molluck> digital_k, I know.  but for the moment, I have an ati laptop.. would prefer some kind of effects
[02:46] <Slart> funkyHat: I have 2GB mem and that fills up pretty quickly.. but I get angry with programmers claiming "I don't have to write fast, small code anymore because computers are so fast these days".. but this is getting off topic...
[02:46] <bimberi> cyphase: sorry no, in essence i'm guessing, 'man dd' will be helpful
[02:46] <digital_k> have you tried the built in compiz effects?
[02:46] <cyphase> bimberi: ok, thanx anyway
[02:47] <digital_k> those do work on my setup
[02:47] <jordo23> I don't get it....when AZureus starts, it begins fine, gets to the main window, and the disappears....it is also not in the system tray....any ideas???
[02:47] <digital_k> beryl doesnt tho
[02:47] <AzMoo> Hey, is there a way to reliably connect to a Windows Vista share? I can authenticate, but half the files report their file size as 0 bytes and the rest of them are 'inaccessible' for some reason that it doesn't specify.
[02:47] <Molluck> Death_Sargent, http://pastebin.ca/492112
[02:48] <Frogzoo> wow the upgrade process has improved :)
[02:48] <yme1> need help setting up ndiswrapper for a bcm43xx wireless card (pcie)
[02:48] <Slart> AzMoo: I thought Vista used standard windows filesharing.. but it might be something they've changed..  if it's something new I'm sure there are people working on getting in right
[02:48] <wxq2378> AzMoo: have you checkked that the files can be read by "anyone" on the windows box? exporting a shoare alone isn't enough the file permissions must be correct too
[02:49] <AzMoo> wxq2378, yes, I can access it all fine from windows.
[02:50] <wxq2378> AzMoo: that might be not enough. if you use a different user from the remote machine.
[02:50] <Molluck> Death_Sargent, well?
[02:50] <jrib> sayers: /opme
[02:50] <wxq2378> AzMoo: isn't there a public folder that can be shard in vista? have you tried that one?
[02:50] <AzMoo> wxq2378, there are other anomalies too. I can go into a directory and read a bunch of files, for example, but refresh the directory and it's suddenly inaccessible.
[02:51] <scarter> how do you tell multisync where your pda is connected?
[02:51] <bimberi> cyphase: you could probably just 'cat badfile > anotherfile' for the first part, then something like 'dd if=badfile bs=1 skip=9999 >> anotherfile' for the 2nd part (where 9999 is the number of the byte _after_ the errant EOF byte)
[02:51] <mag_> hello. I've a samba server with CLS, but now I have a problem with security... is it possible to do someting in the server that doesn't permit to print files ?
[02:51] <eobanb> what is with all these people getting kicked
[02:52] <cyphase> bimberi: byte of the file, or byte of the hard drive?
[02:52] <digital_k> eobanb: i was thinking the same thing. :/
[02:52] <Death_Sargent> Molluck: open a shell and run this sudo aticonfig --initial then this sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv then restart
[02:52] <Slart> mag_: any file that can be read or copied can be printed..
[02:52] <Death_Sargent> Molluck: open a shell and run this sudo aticonfig --initial then this sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv then restart
[02:52] <ubuntu-rocks> how do ensure that no graphical support is installed on my lamp server when i do an apt-get install?
[02:52] <jrib> eobanb: no one was kicked, I removed a ban
[02:52] <Slart> mag_: unless you want to start using the latest ms office.. I think it has some features for such things
[02:52] <wxq2378> AzMoo: strange. have you two computers with the same IP numbers in the network? or a strange pesonal firewall on the vista pc?
[02:52] <Catoptromancy_> Somehow I managed to make a /root/ folder in my home, cant compile or delete it?
[02:52] <digital_k> molluck is no longer here Death_Sargent
[02:52] <Catoptromancy_> any idea on how to delte it
[02:52] <eobanb> jrib, why were people being kicked earlier
[02:52] <Death_Sargent> well damn
[02:52] <Death_Sargent> make a guy help you then be a bitch
[02:52] <geokeratz_> Hey , does anyone know how can I open *.sit files? I've got file-roller's latest edition which is expected to have the ability to open these files (but NO! it doesn't as it seems). Stuffit Expander is the native app for Mac
[02:52] <mag_> Slart: with windows 2003 server R2 is possible, but I don't know if with linux I can !
[02:53] <Death_Sargent> my middle finger to him
[02:53] <moloto1> If I've downloaded some packages I dont need anymore... whats the way to get rid of them via cmd line?
[02:53] <moloto1> Surely theres an easy package manager
[02:53] <jordo23> I don't get it....when AZureus starts, it begins fine, gets to the main window, and the disappears....it is also not in the system tray....any ideas???
[02:53] <digital_k> moloto1:easy?
[02:53] <Death_Sargent> hey how come it sais gkrelm is using 4gigs of memory?
[02:53] <Slart> mag_: so, a windows 2003 server with a shared text file will let me open the file but not print it? I doubt it
[02:53] <wxq2378> moloto1: apt-get remove XXX
[02:53] <AzMoo> wxq2378, nope.
[02:53] <MattJ> moloto1, Synaptic is easy :)
[02:53] <MattJ> moloto1, or aptitude in terminal
[02:53] <Death_Sargent> does gkrelm normally sit on lots of ram?
[02:53] <digital_k> Ubuntu makes it as about as easy as it can get.
[02:53] <yme1> need help setting up ndiswrapper for a bcm43xx wireless card (pcie)
[02:53] <mag_> Slart: yes
[02:54] <moloto1> ok cool. thanks MattJ
[02:54] <Death_Sargent> I mean 4gigs is a lot
[02:54] <ubuntu-rocks> does apt-get have a config file that you can tell it now to install graphic support for any package you install?
[02:54] <ubuntu-rocks> like make.conf in gentoo
[02:54] <digital_k> you can configure the package itself i believe
[02:54] <private_meta> hmm
[02:55] <Slart> mag_: not unless you're running some weird microsoft-know-it-all text editor it can't
[02:55] <ubuntu-rocks> how about a global setting to disable anything graphical like gnome, kde etc?
[02:55] <private_meta> can anyone here give me a good recovery tool for ubuntu that restores the system installation from an image?
[02:55] <Slart> mag_: we're not talking about pdf-files? or word documents, right?
[02:56] <ubuntu-rocks> how do i check to see if a package is installed?
[02:56] <ubuntu-rocks> basically, what apt-get parameter do i need?
[02:56] <bimberi> ubuntu-rocks: apt-cache policy package
[02:56] <Slart> ubuntu-rocks: you can use synaptic.. there are some filter buttons there that lets you see installed pacakges
[02:56] <mag_> Slart: no, we are talking about txt, eml, xls, doc files... and if you want pdf ... but the problems is that the server is a fedora core :(
[02:57] <Chicory> Why am I unable to see XDMCP servers on my subnet?
[02:57] <mag_> Slart: I called microsoft Mexico some hours ago and they told me that the cost of all the licences and the os is around 1200 dlls
[02:57] <ubuntu-rocks> only command line, no gui on my lamp server
[02:57] <funkyHat> mag_, I don't see how you can serve a file to someone remotely and expect the machine to obey you if you tell it not to print that file ;) (unless you're using PDF or something when you can do that in the file)
[02:57] <Chicory> I know I've set up xdmcp, but, uh, I can't seem to access my desktop's XDMCP server from my laptop.
[02:58] <digital_k> ubuntu-rocks: this command will output a file to your home folder called ubuntu-files that lists everthing installed , in terminal: dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall > ubuntu-files
[02:58] <Slart> mag_: I still don't believe you.. sorry.. you've left something out.. forgotten to tell me something.. there's no way the server can keep me from printing a simple ascii file if I can read it... but this is off topic however interesting
[02:58] <Frogzoo> after the upgrade to feisty, dpkg -l lsb-core shows the package with status of "bad" - what to do?
[03:00] <Catoptromancy> Somehow I managed to make a /root/ folder in my home, cant compile or delete it?
[03:00] <Catoptromancy> any idea on how to delte it
[03:00] <ubuntu-rocks> i guess apt-cache policy package doesn't take wildcards
[03:00] <Slart> Catoptromancy: is it just an empty folder?
[03:00] <avb> Catoptromancy: why you need this? :)
[03:00] <ubuntu-rocks> mysql is actually called mysql-server
[03:00] <avb> ah
[03:00] <Catoptromancy> no I downloaded an SVN to /home/   instead of /home/desktop/
[03:00] <gluttony> does anyone know how to remote connect from an xp comp to an ubuntu comp?
[03:00] <sebas_> I have a HP 3420 printer. Windows seems to print correctly but Feisty does not print in red nor in black.
[03:00] <Catoptromancy> I moved it to /home/desktop/
[03:01] <sebas_> Who can help me?
[03:01] <cein> gluttony: use VNC
[03:01] <Catoptromancy> I cant compile it when all the files are root
[03:01] <avb> gluttony: putty www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[03:01] <Slart> Catoptromancy: what have you tried so far? tried doing a "sudo nautilus" and using that to delete the folder?
[03:01] <Catoptromancy> the makefile cant make anything
[03:01] <cein> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vnc
[03:01] <cein> !vnc
[03:01] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[03:01] <ubuntu-rocks> gluttony, use putty and make sure you have ssh running on the ubuntu box
[03:01] <Eevee1> bbl
[03:01] <bimberi> ubuntu-rocks: no it wants exact package names, 'dpkg -l mysql*' would work better
 i have vnc on my xp, but how do i configure it? and can it be installed to a removabable drive
[03:02] <cein> or yeah use ssh ;-p
[03:02] <Slart> Catoptromancy: if you want to change owner you can use chown (see man chown).. and you'll probably have to run it as root so sudo chown bla bla bla
[03:02] <ubuntu-rocks> thanks guys
 how do i check for ssh? and can putty be run on removable media?
[03:02] <cein> gluttony: refer to those URLs
[03:02] <ubuntu-rocks> gluttony, is your ubunto box gui?
[03:02] <Catoptromancy> I tried to run sudo to delete it
[03:02] <w1ls0n_> How can I see exactly which firmware file is being loaded?
 yeah
[03:03] <w1ls0n_> To my pcmcia wireless card.
[03:03] <digital_k> Catoptromancy: you need to open file manager as root to remove .
[03:03] <Catoptromancy> and Im already getting a big file off synaptic so I cant download nautilus yet
[03:03] <ubuntu-rocks> i'm using putty to connect to my ubuntu box via putty, only running command line as it is a lamp server
[03:03] <ircusr> hi all
[03:03] <digital_k> hence the sudo nautilus command
[03:03] <ircusr> i just got my ubuntu CDs today!!
[03:03] <Slart> Catoptromancy: if you're using feisty you're already using it =)
[03:03] <bimberi> cyphase: (sorry i stepped away) byte of the file.  It all swings on whether will interpret the EOF when it does the skipping.  Hopefully it won't
[03:03] <digital_k> lol yes
[03:03] <ubuntu-rocks> gluttony, on your ubunto box, install ssh first
[03:03] <bimberi> *whether dd will
[03:04] <gluttony> from synaptic right?
[03:04] <fester225> I'm attempting to upgrade from Dapper to Edgy. When I run  gksu "update-manager -c" , I get "Gtk WARNING: cannot open display:" Apt-get says GKSU is up to date. How do I get GKSU to do the upgrade?
[03:05] <wxq2378> fester225: any your running that locally in a console in X?
[03:05] <ubuntu-rocks> gluttony, from the command line, you need to run "apt-get install ssh" or "apt-get install sshd" can't remember which one i just used
 youll have to explain this in laymans terms. im still gaining experience with ubuntu
[03:05] <Flannel> fester225: What repositories do you have?  Make sure you have dapper-updates
[03:05] <Catoptromancy> sudo: nautilus: command not found
[03:05] <ubuntu-rocks> gluttony, i JUST installed ubunto like 30 mins ago!! :)
[03:05] <fester225> Not that I'm aware of.
[03:05] <digital_k> gluttony: its all part of the fun!
[03:05] <digital_k> just hang in there
[03:05] <digital_k> :)
[03:05] <ubuntu-rocks> i do have a bit of gentoo experience though
[03:06] <wxq2378> Flannel: accoring to his error message it just cant open the display. it does not even start to upgrade
[03:06] <digital_k> ive never tried gentoo, ive heard its quite an undertaking
[03:06] <fester225> I have all the updates for dapper.
[03:06] <Flannel> wxq2378: thats just a warning, you get those pretty often actually
[03:06] <ubuntu-rocks> gentoo is pretty good, the best feature i like is portage (the package manager)
[03:06] <guycook> I today download vmware workstation 6 in both rpm and gz formats does ubuntu 64 bit support RPM installs from the prompt? Or with the package manager?
[03:06] <ubuntu-rocks> it takes care of the dependencies of packages
[03:06] <Flannel> fester225: Youre doing this in a gnome-terminal, rgiht? not a tty?
[03:06] <locororo3> quien habla en espaol
[03:06] <Flannel> !es | locororo3
[03:06] <ubotu> locororo3: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:07] <wxq2378> Flannel: well "cant open display" is pretty sever for an x application...
[03:07] <digital_k> Ive used Ubuntu for 3 years, I'm hooked. :p
[03:07] <fester225> I'm doing this in Konsole.
[03:07] <Flannel> wxq2378: no, it's not.  Go to a terminal, and type "gksu gedit" and you'll get three of them.
[03:07] <Flannel> fester225: Pastebin your sources.list
 it was ssh
[03:07] <sebas_> Hey, are you sure that nobody can help me? I have a HP 3420 printer. Windows seems to print correctly but Feisty does not print in red nor in black.
[03:08] <private_meta> hi... can someone tell me what's wrong with my keyboard when i can't use the keys like (at), keys that i need ctrl+alt for... everytime i try that it only takes the "alt" button... i use the keyboard layout germany dead acute...
[03:08] <fester225> please describe 'pastebin'.
[03:08] <__mikem> gluttony did you know that you are a sin
[03:08] <__mikem> !pastebin
[03:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:08] <ubuntu-rocks> gluttony, you need to either logged in as root to install packages or "su -u root apt-get install ssh"
[03:08] <gluttony> yeah, my favorite one
[03:08] <ubuntu-rocks> i love food! :)
[03:08] <gluttony> i did sudo apt-get
[03:08] <wxq2378> Flannel: no i dont. i just tried it. i get a warning about no gnome session (which is understandable as root has no session open)
[03:08] <Flannel> gluttony, ubuntu-rocks, Ubuntu doesn't use the root account, use sudo instead.
[03:08] <gluttony> i did
[03:08] <ubuntu-rocks> tks flannel
[03:08] <__mikem> sudo passwd root
[03:08] <__mikem> my favorite ^
[03:08] <deCon> can someone help me troubleshoot networking? My device is recognized, but for some reason, i'm not getting data transmission
[03:09] <FuzzayD> is unbutu easy to use for me a noob?
[03:09] <Flannel> __mikem: there's absolutely NO reason to do that.
[03:09] <__mikem> FuzzayD it was easy enough for me
[03:09] <caner> how can i see comments of a .rar file. archive manager cant read it and i need the password. "the pass for the file was in comments" please help
[03:09] <__mikem> when I was a newB
[03:09] <digital_k> FuzzayD: yes!
[03:09] <__mikem> Flannel, enabling the root account is fun :P
[03:09] <FuzzayD> YAY im so newb happy now
 it depends. just straight foreward computing is easy
[03:09] <gluttony> ok, i have ssh installed, now what do i need to do?
[03:09] <digital_k> Ubuntu is not overly complicated and you dont have to be a geek to use it.
[03:09] <Flannel> __mikem: no it's not.  Please don't spout stuff like that in here, thanks.
[03:09] <smtlaissezfaire> I'm having some problems with feisty, which I just upgraded today.  Specifically the apache2 apt-get package
[03:09] <digital_k> thats why i like it so much
[03:09] <smtlaissezfaire> a2enmod isn'
[03:09] <FuzzayD> what about compatability of games with it?
[03:10] <ubuntu-rocks> don't laught guys but at work we use gentoo and pretty much the root account for everything!!
[03:10] <smtlaissezfaire> a2enmod isn't working, nor is apache2-ssl-certificate
[03:10] <digital_k> well gaming is another thing.
[03:10] <Flannel> ubuntu-rocks: Ubuntu is designed not to use the root account
[03:10] <digital_k> im not a gamer, so i cant really give you advice on that.
[03:10] <deCon> Flannel_, can you help me troubleshoot my networking..? my device is showing, but its not getting data or sending it, and when i ping, it doesn't run
[03:10] <__mikem> gaming is a problem no matter what linux you use unless you have cedega
gaming is minimal, some games can be forced to work, but others refuse
[03:10] <caner> how can i see comments of a .rar file. archive manager cant read it and i need the password. "the pass for the file was in comments" please help
[03:10] <fester225> I've got pastebin up. How do I find my source list?
[03:10] <Sergonium> omgooze:P
[03:10] <__mikem> !linspire
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linspire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <Flannel> fester225: with gedit, open /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:10] <smtlaissezfaire> fester225: /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:11] <Slart> FuzzayD: don't expect to be able to play the newest windows games or even most of the older windows games on your ubuntu computer
[03:11] <monster> gooze?
[03:11] <digital_k> lol _mikem
 what do i need to do after i have installed ssh?
[03:11] <Sergonium> lol this channel is just to uptight:P
[03:11] <FuzzayD> is it possible to have two os and just choose wich to run on startup?
[03:11] <Flannel> gluttony: login remotely
[03:11] <Slart> FuzzayD: but it's getting better with every update they do
[03:11] <ubuntu-rocks> gluttony, run "/etc/init.d/ssh restart"
[03:11] <Flannel> FuzzayD: yeah, that's dualbooting.
[03:11] <Sergonium> 2 many ub slackers
[03:11] <digital_k> Slart: very true!
[03:11] <__mikem> digital_k linspire really is the ultimate "Linux for n00bs"
[03:11] <monster> lol
[03:11] <FuzzayD> k ty ill look it up
[03:11] <levander> Anybody know why they're ignoring a bug I filed for emacs in launchpad?  Is this common to ignore it?
[03:11] <Flannel> ubuntu-rocks: doesnt need to do that.  apt does it automatically
[03:11] <digital_k> linspire is ok for what it is, but I say Ubuntu is easy for someone who isnt familiar with linux
[03:12] <ubuntu-rocks> gluttony, from you winxp box, download putty and run it, connect to the ip of the ubuntu box using the ssh option
 "permission denied
[03:12] <levander> digital_k: it's also easy for people who are familiar with linux, that's why i use it...
[03:12] <Slart> levander: if it's something obscure or not easily reproduced..
[03:12] <digital_k> exactly
[03:12] <digital_k> its both
[03:12] <__mikem> digital_k, I prefere ubuntu anyway
[03:12] <ubuntu-rocks> flannel, i don't think it started ssh when i installed it
[03:12] <Flannel> gluttony: you don't need to do that.  But, if you did, you'd need sudo.
[03:12] <digital_k> me tooooooo
[03:12] <Flannel> ubuntu-rocks: it does.
[03:12] <guycook> um, shouldn't the nvidia-settings for dual monitors be saved?  I am not having it save the dual setup once it's enabled.
 o ok. how do i find the machines ip?
[03:13] <FuzzayD> i try networking with my home pc xp but my notebooks vista so it doesnt work would it work with ubuntu?
[03:13] <ubuntu-rocks> ifconfig
[03:13] <fester225> Please be patient, I'm installing gedit.
[03:13] <NemesisD> can someone help me with grep? i need it to return just the pattern match, not the entire line
[03:13] <levander> Slart: well, i posted a thread on comp.lang.python, and they reproduced it.  It's weird because it has to do with the python debugger under emacs.  And, I thought a lot of Canonical developers use python.  I'm sure they also use emacs as ubiquitous as it is.
[03:13] <Flannel> fester225: installing?  eh?  Use kate if youve got KDE.
 can putty be run of a removable drive?
[03:13] <__mikem> oops
[03:13] <__mikem> forgot the /msg
[03:13] <scarter> how do you tell multisync where your pda is connected?
[03:13] <Flannel> fester225: if youre using Kubuntu, you shouldnt be using gksu you should be using kdesu.
[03:13] <ubuntu-rocks> sure, it is quite small
[03:14] <NemesisD> i just need the results with no context
[03:14] <Slart> levander: then I don't know.. perhaps they will get to it in time... you'll have to ask the people responsible if you want a better answer, sorry
[03:14] <wxq2378> gluttony: yes it can. though its settings are saved in the registry, so you'll have to enter the connection details each time
[03:14] <ubuntu-rocks> putty is 441kb
[03:14] <levander> Slart: okay, thanks, guess i just wanted somewhere to complain... i probably will look at the package name and email an author...
 ok, i did ifconfig, but i dont see ip address. i see a bunch of numbers that look like ips
[03:15] <feliciano> hi, how can I use chmod 777 for a folder and it affect every subfolder and subfiles???
[03:15] <Flannel> feliciano: you don't.
[03:15] <fester225> gedit gives "cannot open display: (null)"
[03:15] <wxq2378> feliciano: with -R
[03:15] <ubuntu-rocks> gluttony, you are looking for something like this inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:15] <__mikem> feliciano you can do chmod 777 -R folder
[03:15] <Flannel> fester225: You should be using kate, not gedit.  Gedit is for Ubuntu, Kate is Kubuntus text editor
[03:15] <levander> Slart: wanna make sure it gets fixed in the next release, i've stayed quiet before, and the bug that affected me was still there in the next release, ticked me off
[03:15] <Flannel> feliciano: why are you trying to do that?  Which folder?
[03:16] <feliciano> thanks you wxq2378 and __mikem
[03:16] <Slart> levander: hehe.. well, nag a bit.. it might help =)
[03:16] <levander> Slart: i'll just email an author of the package...
[03:16] <wheelson> macd, come in macd.
[03:16] <fester225> kate: cannot connect to x-server
 ok, i found inet addr. do i need [inet addr, Bcast, and mask] ? or just one of them
[03:16] <Flannel> fester225: youre doing this from konsole? or from a tty?
[03:16] <arceye> can anyone tell me how to disable the tap function of my mouse pad ?
[03:16] <digital_k> does anyone know if there is an application like little snitch on mac, for ubuntu?
[03:16] <wxq2378> feliciano: well the questiion if Flannel was good. which folder do you want to manipulate
[03:16] <levander> Slart: really, i guess RMS is the lead developer on emacs, i wonder if he'd respond?
[03:16] <caner> i cant read comments for a rar archive which has its password there? anybody knows how to?
[03:16] <fester225> konsole.
[03:16] <NemesisD> anyone? how would one grep a file for just the expression match, no context, nothing else?
[03:16] <digital_k> i am really interested in finding something like that
[03:17] <feliciano> Flannel, I try to delete some mp3 in a folder
[03:17] <ubuntu-rocks> gluttony, the inet addr is what you need
[03:17] <Slart> levander: hehe.. wonder how many emails he gets a day.. hundred? more?
[03:17] <Flannel> feliciano: Which folder?  You shouldnt need to chmod anything.
[03:17] <wxq2378> feliciano: makeing all executable and world readable isn't exactly the usual thing to to ;-)
[03:17] <ubuntu-rocks> just figure out mirc had autocomplete using the tab! :)
 and thats all the info i need to config puddy, right?
[03:17] <levander> Slart: you know, he used to have his user account set up at MIT (where he works) so that anyone could telnet in and read his mail.
[03:17] <woland_> anyone playig encrypted dvds using mythtv?
[03:17] <feliciano> Flannel, wxq2378. this folder are of the root
[03:18] <levander> Slart: he really didn't get that many emails a day, but that was before the days of spam
[03:18] <feliciano> I try to change the owner, but i cant
[03:18] <Flannel> feliciano: which folder is it?  Is it a removable drive?  or what?
[03:18] <Slart> levander: talking the talk and walking the walk.. impressive
[03:18] <ubuntu-rocks> gluttony, correct, once ssh is running on the ubuntu box you are set
[03:18] <digital_k> i still cant get to the ubuntu studio download sites...all 404 errors :/
[03:18] <digital_k> lots of traffic i guess
[03:18] <feliciano> Flannel is a folder in a fat partition
[03:18] <gluttony> cool. well, im gonna go install puddy. thanks guys
[03:18] <levander> Slart: yeah, it was one of his pro-sharing, anti-security beliefs that made him do that
[03:19] <wxq2378> feliciano: then you cant chown, use mount options
[03:19] <ubuntu-rocks> gluttony, that would be putty
[03:19] <ubuntu-rocks> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html
[03:19] <gluttony> lol, its what i meant
[03:19] <ubuntu-rocks> :)
[03:19] <levander> Slart: he actually had a message popping up when you logged in saying "please don't delete any of my email!!!"
[03:19] <Flannel> feliciano: You use sudo to delete the files.
[03:19] <feliciano> wxq2378, I try using the ubuntuguide.org howto, but dont works
[03:20] <Cabroncete> not crapping on Ubuntu, but what a sorry state of things when it comes to IRC clients, xchat particularly
[03:20] <craigbass1976> Wow, can't believe how many people are in here nowadays
[03:20] <private_meta> so can't anyone here tell me what should be the problem here if i seem to not being able to use ctrl+alt simultanuously?
[03:20] <feliciano> Flannel, yes but I wanna delete it from thunar (like nautilius)
[03:20] <Slart> levander: perhaps I should enable remote ssh, root/root and have that in the motd.. wonder how long it would be before my computer was busy spamming the world about v1agra etc =)
[03:20] <craigbass1976> Cabroncete, what's thematter with xchat?
[03:20] <fester225> fester225 just pastebinned.
[03:20] <Flannel> feliciano: `gksu thunar`
[03:20] <Cabroncete> it is pretty shoddy
[03:20] <Cabroncete> crashy
[03:20] <Flannel> fester225: you need to give us the URL it gives back to you
[03:20] <arceye> sudo   <----- is this kind of short for switch user do ?
[03:20] <levander> Cabroncete: bitchx, i use an emacs mode called erc-select, but yeah, there are better IRC clients on Windows if you want a GUI
[03:20] <feliciano> Flannel... wow!!! thats a help :D thanks
[03:20] <Catoptromancy> AHH " sudo aptitude install nautilus"  wants 200mbs of stuff
[03:21] <Cabroncete> any recommendations for a better gnome client?
[03:21] <craigbass1976> Cabroncete, Which ubuntu do you have?
[03:21] <wheelson> arceye, it's short for sudoku
[03:21] <Catoptromancy> I dont use gnome
[03:21] <Cabroncete> yeah, but I live in Edgy amd 64
[03:21] <levander> Slart: yeah, like i said, this was maybe 12 years ago, before spam really caught on.  The best porn used to be on Usenet.
[03:21] <Cabroncete> so, mIRC is not an option, and no, I'd rather NOT WINE
[03:21] <arceye> ok thats got me beat I just wondered why its used
[03:21] <fester225> 21226
[03:21] <Flannel> Cabroncete: try `xchat` (in universe) not xchat-gnome (in main)
[03:22] <levander> Slart: Now, it's rare to find a good usenet group.
[03:22] <craigbass1976> Cabroncete, hmm.  I have dapper and edgy (both using gnome and 32 bit) and have no trouble.  I will say that firefox craches a lot in edgy, but that'smy only com[plaint
[03:22] <Slart> levander: yea.. I remember when our ISP's in sweden still carried the binary groups.. nowdays they hardly carry the text only groups
[03:22] <levander> Slart: porn, or otherwise, i don't even look anymore
[03:22] <digital_k> Catoptromancy:you need to install gnome desktop to get nautilus ;)
[03:22] <Cabroncete> Flannel, I am running it from universe
[03:22] <digital_k> thats why its so large
[03:22] <Flannel> fester225: in the future, the whole thing, like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21226/, but I got it
[03:22] <Cabroncete> let me check what ver is out there
[03:22] <Catoptromancy> Ive erased root folders before but forgot how
[03:22] <Catoptromancy> some 4-5 letter program
[03:23] <__mikem> Catoptromancy you should avoid deleting the root folder
[03:23] <Cabroncete> ah, much newer, but no x64 debs
[03:23] <Catoptromancy> Its not really root
[03:23] <Slart> Catoptromancy: just a little thing.. you're trying to delete a folder owned by root.. not a root folder.. =) a root folder is the whole filesystem.. / =)
[03:23] <Catoptromancy> its permssions are root
[03:23] <marky_b> hey all, i downloaded both limewire and frostwire, installed them, rebooted, but the main window/form for either application is blank. any ideas?
[03:23] <Flannel> fester225: Hmm.  Well, that all looks to be in order.  `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` doesn't indicate anything needs to be upgraded?
[03:23] <Catoptromancy> its in my /home/desktop/games folder
[03:23] <deCon> Flannel, i ran iwconfig and my ath0 wifi card is showing, but i'm not getting any internet..any ideas?
[03:23] <Cabroncete> craigbass, try this:  remove all servers on left pane, double click --> crash
[03:24] <Flannel> deCon: I have no idea about wifi.
[03:24] <fester225> Nope.
[03:24] <Cabroncete> xchat doesn't even handle list out of index errors, sad
[03:24] <Flannel> fester225: Alright.  You're running Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[03:24] <bulmer> deCon check youe route table if it exist
[03:24] <Cabroncete> will try the new version from sources
[03:24] <cein> hmm...
[03:24] <Catoptromancy> Its only code I cant compile unless I remove the permissions
[03:24] <craigbass1976> Anyone know if there's a keyboard shortcut for switching through firefox tabs?
[03:24] <fester225> Kubuntu.
[03:24] <Catoptromancy> so its really useless
[03:24] <marky_b> cr try ctrl-tab
[03:24] <anandanbu> is there any download managers for the linux that i can install in ubuntu
[03:24] <PacketEye> Sorry if this ? is stupid - does Ubuntu Desktop come with any small servers already installed (FTP, TFTP, Syslog, etc.) and is it easy enough to get a RADIUS server running on it?
[03:24] <marky_b> thats what it is in windows anyways..
[03:24] <cein> now i'm playing around with vncserver, but it's not starting gnome-session like i told it to in ~/.vnc/xtartup
[03:25] <cein> xstartup
[03:25] <marky_b> whoops i meant craigbass1976
[03:25] <juliosr> What is the best way to set up Hotmail with Evolution?
[03:25] <marky_b> juliosr: imap? :)
[03:25] <moloto1> craigbass1976: its ctrl+tab for moving btwn tabs in all apps. thats the standard anyway.
[03:25] <marky_b> yea
[03:25] <Slart> juliosr: don't think hotmail offers imap or pop.. or?
[03:25] <Cabroncete> best Evolution setup is TB 2.0
[03:25] <digital_k> slart: hotmail is http
[03:25] <craigbass1976> marky_b, that's retarded.  Why didn't I ever try that?
[03:25] <craigbass1976> marky_b, thanks
[03:25] <marky_b> lol :)
[03:26] <digital_k> and you cant retrive it if you dont pay for the access
[03:26] <marky_b> np. thx to moloto1 also
[03:26] <bimberi> !hotway | juliosr
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hotway - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <Slart> digital_k: yes.. thought so
[03:26] <bimberi> !info hotway | juliosr
[03:26] <ubotu> juliosr: hotway: POP3 to Hotmail (HTTPmail) gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.8.4-2 (feisty), package size 51 kB, installed size 188 kB
[03:26] <blimpdude> crimsun: hi u there?
[03:26] <Flannel> fester225: hmm.  Kubuntu... shouldnt be different.  Try `kdesu "update-manager -c"`
[03:26] <coulix> Hi, open office lost all its icons, now all layout, text [...]  options appear as text. Any hint on how to restore the nice icons ?
[03:26] <juliosr> So HTTPmail?
[03:26] <marky_b>  i downloaded both limewire and frostwire, installed them, rebooted, but the main window/form for either application is blank. any ideas?
[03:27] <cables> craigbass1976, I'm not sure if anyone's helped you so far, but I just saw your question... There is, it's ctrl-tab.
[03:27] <arceye> Juliosr Hotmail stopped support for use in client programs unless you subscribe
[03:27] <digital_k> marky_b: why both?
[03:27] <blimpdude> i need help figuring out why my sound card doesn't work. Here is the output of alsa-info.sh: http://pastebin.ca/492156
[03:27] <digital_k> i use gtkgnutella personally
[03:27] <digital_k> i like it better
[03:27] <PF|Ubuntu> I cant get my SSH server to respond, what can I do? I have OpenSSH installed.
[03:27] <marky_b> digital_k: one didnt work, so i tried frost
[03:27] <craigbass1976> cables, yep.  marky b did.  Thanks though
[03:27] <deCon> cables, how do i edit my ssh file to allow certain IPs? or what is the safest way to do it?
[03:27] <zerokill88> can anyone help me with this error "The playback of this movie requires a VCD protocol source plugin which is not installed."
[03:28] <marky_b> would a java error produce that effect?
[03:28] <Miso> Can i install JRE in feisty ?
[03:28] <sholsinger> I've read all the docs I can about bcm43xx + bcm43xx-fwcutter + ndiswrapper and I've tried all three.  The wireless device is "found" with the network manager, but it doesn't seem to actually work.
[03:28] <cables> deCon, why are you asking me?
[03:28] <Cabroncete> brb, building xchat from sources, crossing fingers under 64bit
[03:28] <cables> !java | Miso
[03:28] <ubotu> Miso: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[03:28] <marky_b> Miso:  yea
[03:28] <craigbass1976> cables, hey, it even works in xchat!
[03:28] <Slart> PF|Ubuntu: make sure it's configured properly.. I think you'll have to change sometihng to make it listen to outside connections
[03:28] <cables> Miso, open a terminal, and I'll tell you the command.
[03:28] <marky_b> craigbass1976:  lol. all applications with tabs
[03:28] <PF|Ubuntu> Slart, it is listening to outside connections
[03:28] <PF|Ubuntu> It was working yesterday
[03:28] <PF|Ubuntu> Now all of a sudden, it isnt
[03:28] <crimsun> blimpdude: not for long.  I'm on break.
[03:28] <marky_b> i'm thinking my JRE is fucked. thats why these apps arent loanding
[03:28] <nol13> ok so im playing zelda a link to the past on znes, the trouble is this damm helmsasoar king, how do i avoid his fireballs?
[03:28] <fester225> kdesu cannot connect to X server
[03:28] <craigbass1976> marky_b, criminy, all this time I've been mesing with this stupid trackpad...
[03:29] <AaronCN> Which email client is better, Thunderbird or Evolution?
[03:29] <Slart> PF|Ubuntu: ah.. then.. then.. well.. then I'm out of ideas.. sorry =)
[03:29] <marky_b> craigbass1976: lol
[03:29] <Miso> cables: ok
[03:29] <Slart> !best
[03:29] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[03:29] <PF|Ubuntu> I'll remove OpenSSH and reinstall it I guess
[03:29] <marky_b> !jre
[03:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:29] <cables> AaronCN, Evolution has more features, but for some reason, I prefer Thunderbird. Try both, see which one you like.
[03:29] <blimpdude> crimsun: ah ok, well i ran the script and the output is here: http://pastebin.ca/492156, when you get a second
[03:29] <zerokill88> or how do i get all the codecs i would need to play any dvd???
[03:29] <Slart> AaronCN: there are even weird people out there that use emace to read their mail.. and they swear it's the best.. =)
[03:29] <coulix> look here http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotyc2.png :/
[03:29] <digital_k> marky_b: that is why i never liked frostwire, it randomly locked and uses alot of sys. resources as well
[03:29] <craigbass1976> nol13, znes?  nintendo for ubuntu?
[03:29] <cables> Miso, in a terminal, type < sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin > and it will install it for you.
[03:29] <gaten> PF|Ubuntu: did you check the port from outside to make sure its not blocked somehow
[03:29] <marky_b> well, which do you prefer
[03:30] <AaronCN> cables: is thunderbird able to retrieve hotmail?
[03:30] <marky_b> digital_k: ^^
[03:30] <PF|Ubuntu> gaten: it's intra network
[03:30] <Sivart0> how do i change the default email client?
[03:30] <Miso> cables: 64 bit and everything?
[03:30] <gaten> PF|Ubuntu: ok, did you scan the box w/ nmap then?
[03:30] <cables> Miso, I dunon about that...
[03:30] <digital_k> i use gtk gnutella client, available in synaptic
[03:30] <gluttony> hey im back. before i test the remote connection, my dad wants be to make sure of something
[03:30] <nol13> craigbass1976, no, super nintendo for ubuntu
[03:30] <PF|Ubuntu> gaten, what is nmap?
[03:30] <deCon> cables: is there a java update 7 for ubuntu? I need it for my internet classes supposedly
[03:30] <gaten> PF|Ubuntu: or you could even telnet to the ssh port and make sure its running
[03:30] <Slart> !nmap
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <sholsinger> I need help getting a Broadcom 4306 Rev3 device to work in Feisty.
[03:30] <crimsun> blimpdude: unmute and adjust Surround, Center, LFE, Side
[03:30] <Miso> cables: but it will run on amd64?
[03:30] <cables> AaronCN, unless hotmail provides POP access, neither Evolution nor Thunderbird supports Java
[03:30] <cables> Miso, I don't know
[03:30] <Sivart0> who wants super nintendo?
[03:30] <Slart> bah.. ubotu.. how dissappointing
[03:30] <PacketEye> Hey guys -  Sorry if this ? is stupid - does Ubuntu Desktop come with any small servers already installed (FTP, TFTP, Syslog, etc.) and is it easy enough to get a RADIUS server running on it?
[03:30] <gaten> omg, ubotu doesn't know what nmap is. bad ubotu
[03:30] <Miso> cables: ok thank you
[03:30] <cables> deCon, java 7 doesn't exist.
[03:31] <marky_b> sholsinger:  google would probably be a better choice atm.
[03:31] <cables> AaronCN, however, there's a Thunderbird extension to support hotmail, I believe.
[03:31] <sholsinger> marky_b, yeah looks busy in here.
[03:31] <digital_k> packeteye: i dont believe so.
[03:31] <marky_b> sholsinger:  yea ;)
[03:31] <Miso> is feisty only for amd 64?
[03:31] <gaten> PF|Ubuntu: just telnet to the ssh machine like this: telnet ipaddress 22
[03:31] <Slart> Miso: nope
[03:31] <usser> PacketEye: server version does
[03:31] <marky_b> sholsinger:  pm me the model number again plz
[03:31] <bimberi> AaronCN: hotway might well work for thunderbird ...
[03:31] <digital_k> Miso: no its not.
[03:31] <bimberi> !info hotway | AaronCN
[03:31] <ubotu> aaroncn: hotway: POP3 to Hotmail (HTTPmail) gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.8.4-2 (feisty), package size 51 kB, installed size 188 kB
[03:31] <PacketEye> Can I have desktop with Server?
[03:31] <digital_k> I am using it on x32 intel
[03:31] <Slart> Miso: it's available for i386, amd64 and some other archs I don't remember now
[03:31] <bimberi> PacketEye: sure
[03:31] <gaten> PF|Ubuntu: and if its running, it should print something like: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-5ubuntu1
[03:31] <PF|Ubuntu> yeah it appears open
[03:31] <PacketEye> or can I install servers in Desktop version?
[03:31] <Miso> so i should be more specific when asking about software
[03:31] <ablyss> there's MrPostMan.. a java applet that can proxy hotmail messages.. I use on opera.. its got one disadvangtage: can't send attached
[03:32] <gluttony> i am behind a cable modem and a wireless router, my dad is a little hesitent to let me do the remote connection. he thinks it will turn of the firewall in the router and leave us voulnerable to hacking. its this possible?
[03:32] <usser> omg how gay is hotmail, no pop3 access?
[03:32] <ablyss> attachments*
[03:32] <cables> AaronCN, it might be better to use the Thunderbird extension rather than the Ubuntu program. I'll send you a link, although you should try both.
[03:32] <bimberi> PacketEye: yes to that too :)
[03:32] <PF|Ubuntu> gluttony, no it wont
[03:32] <Miso> can i install JRE in feisty on an amd64?
[03:32] <PacketEye> awesome - thanks guys
[03:32] <gaten> PF|Ubuntu: ok, whats the error you get when you try to connect
[03:32] <PF|Ubuntu> gluttony, the firewall stays intact
[03:32] <marky_b> packet i have a smb server running on desktop atm
[03:32] <cables> Miso, try it, see what happens...
[03:32] <cein> How do i change vncserver from running /etc/X11/Xsession to running ~/.vnc/xstartup?
[03:32] <Slart> PacketEye: I think the only difference between server and desktop versions are that desktopversion come with a gui (gnome, KDE), server edition doesn't
[03:32] <PF|Ubuntu> gaten: connection timed out
[03:32] <ablyss> hotmail has pop3, but it uses its own pop protocol
[03:32] <gluttony> thanks
[03:32] <digital_k> usser: i have an old account that i created just before m$ bought hotmail, and i was grandfathered in for free access as long as i have the account...lol
[03:32] <digital_k> and i never use it
[03:32] <marky_b> PacketEye:  ftp also
[03:32] <alex__> how do i remove unneeded packages quickly?
[03:32] <cables> AaronCN, you're in luck: http://webmail.mozdev.org/
[03:32] <Slart> alex__: sudo apt-get remove
[03:32] <PacketEye> yeah, that's what I thought
[03:32] <AaronCN> cables: yes.
[03:32] <PF|Ubuntu> alex__,  sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:32] <rics> Hello people.
[03:32] <usser> ablyss: figure ms always invents bycicles
[03:33] <digital_k> hey rics
[03:33] <blimpdude> crimsun: ah il try this ok
[03:33] <cables> alex__, you mean packages that aren't required any more? The best way is sudo apt-get autoremove.
[03:33] <usser> digital_k: heh
[03:33] <Slart> alex__: sudo apt-get remove packagename  .. you can add a --purge too if you want to delete all config files and such
[03:33] <craigbass1976> There's some reconfigure command I can run to get the postfix blue screen.  Anyone know what it is?
[03:33] <craigbass1976> !postfix
[03:33] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[03:33] <AaronCN> bimberi: OK. I'll have a try to thunderbird.
[03:33] <alex__> no
[03:33] <cables> AaronCN, did you get my thing?
[03:33] <AaronCN> ubotu: Thank you. ;)
[03:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thank you. ;) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:33] <alex__> i want to remove unneeded dependencies
[03:33] <alex__> kinda like emerge --depclean in gentoo
[03:33] <cables> alex__, use sudo apt-get autoremove then
[03:33] <alex__> ahh cook
[03:33] <alex__> *cool
[03:33] <cables> :)
[03:33] <bimberi> !thanks | AaronCN
[03:33] <ubotu> AaronCN: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[03:33] <alex__> and how would i do this in synaptic?
[03:34] <cables> alex__, best to do it in a terminal.
[03:34] <Bitmess> Is there something like nslookup in Linux?
[03:34] <AaronCN> cables: yes, i'm opening webmail. is this a mailbox forwarding hotmail emails ?
[03:34] <blimpdude> crimsun: i din't even see the [MM]  in alsamixer
[03:34] <ubuntu-rocks> does a web site exist that list all the apt-get packages?
[03:34] <blimpdude> crimsun: Thanks! it works :)
[03:34] <alex__> cabldevil, but is it possible to do in synaptic?
[03:34] <cables> ubuntu-rocks, packages.ubuntu.com
[03:34] <cables> alex__, I'm checking now.
[03:34] <PF|Ubuntu> gaten, what is nmap
[03:34] <cables> AaronCN, nope.
[03:34] <alex__> thanks cables
[03:34] <ablyss> Bitmess, nslookup is in linux
[03:34] <nRkiSt_> I have an upgrade problem
[03:34] <bimberi> Bitmess: yes, it's nslookup :)
[03:34] <gaten> PF|Ubuntu: try changing ConnectionTimeout in /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[03:34] <AaronCN> cables: OK. it's a extension. let's me install them. :)
[03:34] <gaten> PF|Ubuntu: its a port scanning tool
[03:34] <Bitmess> ablabla, Doh?
[03:34] <codecaine> is there a way to import all the gpg keys with a terminal command in 1 line? for this source list?
[03:35] <digital_k> ubuntu-rocks:you can see all available packages in synaptic
[03:35] <digital_k> there is a button at the bottom that says all
[03:35] <cein> !xstartup
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xstartup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <nj786> i have a problem with my workspace switcher
[03:35] <cables> alex__, it's much faster to do < sudo apt-get autoremove > in a terminal, but in Synaptic, you can go to Status, then Installed (auto removable), then select all, then remove them.
[03:35] <ekiczek> anyone experiencing weird problems with trash in gnome? the contents of trash are protected files and it's not the same as what's in ~/.Trash
[03:35] <cables> !msgthebot | cein
[03:35] <ubotu> cein: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[03:36] <nj786> i have a problem with my workspace switcher
[03:36] <rics> I have a problem with the desktop effects in ubuntu 7.04. The cube stop work. So I installed the Beryl Manager and it put the cube to work. But now it is not working again...
[03:36] <Sivart0> how do i change my default email client?
[03:36] <digital_k> ekiczek:no issues here at all.
[03:36] <cables> ekiczek, I found that everything in /var/run showed up in the trash... it cleared itself up in a week.
[03:36] <nRkiSt_> I have an upgrade problem
[03:36] <Bitmess> bimberi, de de de :D
[03:36] <cables> Sivart0, System>Preferences>Preferred Applications
[03:36] <rics> I tried to remove beryl manager and desktop effects to try again, but didn't work.
[03:36] <cables> !ask | nj786
[03:36] <ubotu> nj786: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:36] <rics> any thoughts?
[03:36] <digital_k> Sivart0:system>preferences>preferred applications
[03:36] <digital_k> that should do it
[03:36] <nRkiSt_> I'm having an upgrade problem.  I'm trying to upgrade from dapper to edgy so that I may then do an upgrade to feisty (this being the recommended way according to the ubuntu site).  I have faithfully applied all the updates to my dapper system. When I attempt to perform the upgrade, the process starts smoothly until I get the following message whilst trying to fetch files:
[03:36] <nRkiSt_> "A problem occured during the update. This is usually some sort of network problem, please check your network connection and retry.
[03:36] <nRkiSt_> Failed to fetch http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/plf/dists/breezy/Release.gpg Could not connect to antesis.freecontrib.org:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[03:36] <nRkiSt_> Failed to fetch http://antesis.freecontrib.org/mirrors/ubuntu/freecontrib/dists/breezy/Release.gpg Could not connect to antesis.freecontrib.org:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)"
[03:36] <cables> digital_k, ha, i beat you
[03:36] <nRkiSt_> Obviously my net connection is ok.  These sites are either obsolete or down.  Can someone provide me with alternate repository sites for these files?
[03:36] <crdlb> !info gnome-compiz-manager | rics
[03:36] <ekiczek> cables: that's exactly my problem
[03:36] <cables> !flood | nRkiSt_
[03:36] <ubotu> rics: gnome-compiz-manager: Compiz Gnome Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 127 kB, installed size 696 kB
[03:37] <ubotu> nRkiSt_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:37] <nj786> cables, everytime i switch to nother desktop nothing appears, my apps menu is not there and my pannels are not there
[03:37] <ekiczek> cables: so it just "cleared up" by itself?
[03:37] <crdlb> rics: install it
[03:37] <nj786> cables, what seems to be the problem?
[03:37] <paolob> Hi guys! What should I do in ubuntu in order to activate the "uid mapping" with nfs? thank you
[03:37] <cables> ekiczek, I asked on the forum, no one knew how to fix it, but yeah, it just "cleared up" by itself. No idea how.
[03:37] <rics> !info gnome-compiz-manager
[03:37] <ubotu> gnome-compiz-manager: Compiz Gnome Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 127 kB, installed size 696 kB
[03:37] <nj786> clables, nor my menus
[03:37] <nj786> cables*, no my menus
[03:37] <cables> nj786, i have no idea how to fix that, ask your qusetion again, this time without my nick in front of it.
[03:38] <Cubey> hiya
[03:38] <digital_k> hey cubey
[03:38] <ekiczek> cables: heh. thanks. i'll just wait then :-)
[03:38] <ubuntu-rocks> i'm trying to install sun-java, what package do i need to install?
[03:38] <digital_k> 733mhz, wow
[03:38] <fiber_> hello, i'm trying to connect to secureIX through kvpnc but i keep getting the message "Authentication has been failed" even though i know the username/password is correct.  could this be caused by something else?
[03:38] <cables> ekiczek, that's no guarantee it'll work for you... but it cleared up for me.
[03:38] <Bitmess> Is there a mid priced pciexpress video adapter that works with beryl right out of the box?
[03:38] <usser> Cubey: should work just fine =)
[03:38] <cables> ubuntu-rocks, do you want the browser plugin, or just the jre?
[03:38] <ekiczek> cables: i understand. it's not critical, just annoying
[03:38] <rics> crdlb: Beryl substitutes compiz?
[03:38] <ubuntu-rocks> the jre
[03:38] <ekiczek> tcables: thanks for the info
[03:38] <deCon> my DNS isn't coming through, but i'm connected and showing in iwconfig, can someone help me figure this out?
[03:38] <cables> ubuntu-rocks, do you want the plugin as well?
[03:38] <usser> Cubey: i tried it on amd duron 800 with 512mbs worked like a charm
[03:39] <crdlb> rics: yes, but if you want to fix compiz, install that package
[03:39] <ubuntu-rocks> no plugins, command line lamp server
[03:39] <crdlb> rics: then go to system>preferences>gl desktop
[03:39] <nRkiSt_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21227/
[03:39] <digital_k> yes i think memory is crucial, more so than proc. speed
[03:39] <digital_k> the more the better
[03:39] <cables> ubuntu-rocks, sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[03:39] <Cubey> If I like it, I may either install it to a 1GHz PC or perhaps just do a CPU swapout. the pc i'm testing it on is a little cheapass made system by gateway without PS/2 or serial and uses weird tiny pci cards
[03:39] <nj786> uboto, i am having  a problem with my workspace switcher, you see when i switch to another desktop i cannot see the menu bar, nor the pannel where i can switch back to my other desktop
[03:39] <cables> !info sun-java6-jre | ubuntu-rocks
[03:39] <ubotu> ubuntu-rocks: sun-java6-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 6176 kB, installed size 14148 kB
[03:39] <Cubey> had 3 USB on the back and 2 on front
[03:39] <nj786> uboto, what seems to be the problem?
[03:39] <Miso> Can someone look at the deb on this page - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/amd64/sun-java5-jre/1.5.0-11-1ubuntu2 -  and tell me if that is what i need to run JRE on feisty amd64?
[03:39] <nj786> what can i do?
[03:39] <crdlb> nj786: using desktop effects?
[03:39] <Cubey> nice tiny system though, 2 RAM slots, upgradable CPU
[03:39] <Slart> nj786: ubotu is a bot
[03:39] <cables> !ubotu | nj786
[03:39] <ubotu> nj786: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:40] <gaten> PF|Ubuntu: you could also try setting the UseDNS value in /etc/ssh/sshd_config to no on the server
[03:40] <Slart> nj786: he's clever and all.. but he's a bit challenged when it comes to the creative stuff.. =)
[03:40] <Pelo> !botsnack
[03:40] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[03:40] <Cubey> little 70W PSU so it doesn't use much power
[03:40] <Cubey> dohh
[03:40] <nj786> crdlb,  iam not using desktop effects i think?
[03:40] <digital_k> cubey:thats perfect to tinker around with
[03:40] <nRkiSt_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21227/
[03:40] <clever> Pelo: lol
[03:40] <Cubey> i need to redo the partitions on partition magic so i don't lose the nice win2k installation
[03:41] <aum> after dist-upgrading to feisty, my right alt-key shows in xev as 'Iso_Level3_Shift', not 'Alt_R' - how do i change it/
[03:41] <aum> ?
[03:41] <ubuntu-rocks> how do i tell apt-get to not install anything graphical?
[03:41] <cables> Cubey, no you don't... the Ubuntu installer has a built-in partitioner that can resize your windows partitional.
[03:41] <cables> ubuntu-rocks, it won't.
[03:41] <nj786> slart, can you help me?
[03:41] <crdlb> nj786: system>preferences>desktop effects
[03:41] <crdlb> nj786: did you enable that?
[03:41] <Cubey> ooh, nice. thanks. glad you said that before i restarted it ;)
[03:41] <Cubey> it's slooowly loading
[03:41] <LezPardee> Hi my name is Lez
[03:41] <deCon> cables: do you know how to resolve a DNS? I'm connected, my hardware is recognized, but i'm not getting DNS
[03:41] <jeff_> help? When returning from hybernate, my titlebar is gone? I can't find a setting hthat shows each window's title bar.  It's as if the titlebar is transparent.  I can't fins a setting anywhere to change this. What happened?
[03:41] <ubuntu-rocks> does ubunto have use flags like gentoo?
[03:41] <nj786> crdlb,they are unchecked
[03:41] <Cubey> it could use more RAM.. i shoulda put more in :S
[03:41] <Slart> nj786: I don't have any easy fixes.. I would reinstall gnome.. or possibly they whole thing (ubuntu that is)
[03:42] <Cubey> might speed things up a bit..
[03:42] <dsnyders> Hi all.  What is the control file governing the rotation of /var/log/messages?
[03:42] <imperfect-> Anyone have any idea why I would be perfectly able to read from a CDROM disc but get end_request: I/O error, dev sr0 errors when trying to read from a DVD?
[03:42] <cables> deCon, you really shouldn't ask specific people for help. I know nothing about how to resolve your DNS issues.
[03:42] <guycook_> ?, I have both the .rpm and .gz versions of vmware workstation 6 - x64 to try to install, I'm on the 7.04 Ubuntu 64 bit desktop, and to save time am asking if the rpm will install via the synaptic pkg manager or not??
[03:42] <imperfect-> I'm using Feisty and it's driving me nuts ;)
[03:42] <Slart> nj786: if you're still talking about the desktop switcher problem
[03:42] <nj786> crdlb,they are unchecked
[03:42] <crdlb> nj786: pgrep metacity
[03:42] <crdlb> run that in a terminal
[03:42] <Pelo> cables, what are you talking about ?  apt-get will install any package it wonT' distinguish if it is a gui app or not
[03:42] <cables> Cubey, did you get my message about how there's no need for Partition Magic? The Ubuntu installer has GParted in it, which can resize your Windows partitions automatically without harming them.
[03:42] <nj786> pgrep matcity?
[03:42] <nj786> crdlb, how do i type that in?
[03:42] <crdlb> nj786: no
[03:42] <digital_k> so no one have any ideas about a little snitch like utility for ubuntu?
[03:43] <cables> Pelo, I'm not talking about anything, that was someone else. I just told him it wouldn't install anything graphical.
[03:43] <usser> guycook_: no rpms wont work
[03:43] <crdlb> nj786: open a terminal
[03:43] <Slart> digital_k: snitch?
[03:43] <nj786> ok, crdlb
[03:43] <crdlb> nj786: and type in that terminal: pgrep metacity
[03:43] <nj786> now what, rdlb
[03:43] <cables> !rpm | guycook_
[03:43] <deCon> I need help resolving DNS issues, can someone help me please?
[03:43] <ubotu> guycook_: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[03:43] <nj786> crdlb*
[03:43] <guycook_> usser, thanks, that saves time
[03:43] <digital_k> yes little snitch is a mac application, it alerts you to all requests from the internet, etc.
[03:43] <Pelo> cables,  which is what I mean   apt-get will isntall graphical stuff ,  ubuntu-rocks  pay attention
[03:43] <guycook_> guy will do the .gz then, thanks
[03:43] <digital_k> i was hoping there was something like that for ubuntu
[03:43] <ubuntu-rocks> i ran sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[03:43] <nj786> crdlb it bring me back to my dekstop thing
[03:43] <cables> Pelo, it won't install anything graphical if you install sun-java6-jre... that's not a gui app.
[03:43] <usser> guycook_: theres version 6 already?
[03:43] <Miso> Could someone tell me please if the deb on this page (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/amd64/sun-java5-jre/1.5.0-11-1ubuntu2) will install JRE for feisty on amd64?
[03:44] <Irishman2020> anyone here a vnc guru and know how to change the port that the vnc listens on?
[03:44] <rics> crdlb: Thanks a lot man
[03:44] <crdlb> nj786: then you're not using metacity
[03:44] <Cubey> there
[03:44] <ubuntu-rocks> it is showing some x stuff and I don't want anything gui
[03:44] <crdlb> nj786: which implies you're using compiz (desktop effects)
[03:44] <Pelo> cableroy,  I must have missed the beginningfo that question
[03:44] <Cubey> boosted the RAM from 192 to 512 ;) now ubuntu should load quicker
[03:44] <rics> crdlb: so, beryl is doing nothing here... hehhe LOL
[03:44] <cables> Miso, why don't you just install from the repos (sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre).
[03:44] <nj786> crdlb, ok then what do i do?
[03:44] <Slart> digital_k: hmm. I haven't seen anything.. but it sounds neat.. I suppose you could fix something up with iptables.. but that'll be nasty
[03:44] <guycook_> usser, yes, ti's very nice, check it out
[03:44] <crdlb> nj786: join #ubuntu-effects
[03:44] <usser> Miso: do u need java browser plugin??
[03:44] <Miso> cables: i'm afraid to do anything to hurt my installation
[03:45] <usser> guycook_: is it beta?
[03:45] <Pelo> digital_k,  there is something called pacaketshark or something with shark in the name that will monitor all packages but I dont think that is what you want
[03:45] <cables> Miso, it won't hurt it, it just won't work.
[03:45] <Irishman2020> brb
[03:45] <Miso> usser: i have the firefox plugin, i need JRE now
[03:45] <usser> guycook_: is there support for 3d for guest OSs
[03:45] <guycook_> usser, I have it on my fedora6 box, nope it's stable final release
[03:45] <cables> Miso, if you want to remove anything, use < sudo aptitude remove packagename >
[03:45] <guycook_> I upgraded from 5.5
[03:45] <cables> Miso, the JRE comes with the plugin.
[03:45] <Pelo> digital_k, for apps synaptic is your freind
[03:45] <nRkiSt_> do you mean 'snark'
[03:45] <Pelo> nRkiSt_,  possibly
[03:45] <cables> Miso, when you installed the plugin, it also installed the JRE (which is required by the plugin)
[03:45] <guycook_> not sure aobout 3D suppoort, does do dual monitors on vm6 vm's
[03:45] <ubuntu-rocks> what is aptitude?
[03:46] <cables> !aptitude | ubuntu-rocks
[03:46] <ubotu> ubuntu-rocks: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[03:46] <digital_k> pelo: thanks, here is the site for little snitch so you have an idea of what i am looking for, and i have searched synaptic over and over, found nothing:/
[03:46] <digital_k> http://www.obdev.at/products/littlesnitch/index.html
[03:46] <Miso> cables: only the plugin is working then :/
[03:46] <cables> Miso, what are you trying to do?
[03:46] <digital_k> ive also combed over getdeb and have found nothing.
[03:46] <cables> Miso, if you're trying to run a .jar file, it may not be opening by default with Java.
[03:46] <marky_b> hey someone here mentioned the command to get and install JRE from the terminal. could you past it here or pm plz? :)
[03:46] <cables> Miso,  can you open a terminal? I have an idea.
[03:46] <guycook_> that's weird, the files I copied to the memory stick on the FC6 box doen't show now when I put that same travel drive into this ubuntu box, ??
[03:46] <nRkiSt_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21227/
[03:46] <marky_b> wait.. is taht what you're talking about now? lol
[03:47] <usser> Miso: as far as i can tell i use j2re1, blackdown, but sun-java5-jre is also installed
[03:47] <cables> marky_b, sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre (this will only install the jre, if you want the plugin as well you should use sudo aptitude install sun-java6-plugin)
[03:47] <Pelo> digital_k,  open up synatpic and to a search for keywords
[03:47] <ubuntu-rocks> i'm trying to install sun-jre from command line too
[03:47] <usser> Miso: j2re1.4
[03:47] <leo__> a
[03:47] <marky_b> lol thx :)
[03:47] <irishman2020> god... its sad I like irssi better than xchat...
[03:47] <gaten> guycook_: did you properly unmount the usb stick before taking it out?
[03:47] <Possum> hmm... anyone experience a really _really_ slow grub?  Actually the whole boot process is slow (not an ubuntu specific problem, but maybe some troubleshooting?)
[03:47] <Jkensy01> Hey guys - can anyone quickly tell me the difference between Ubuntu and Ubuntu Studio
[03:47] <cables> ubuntu-rocks, marky_b Miso, and anyone else trying to install java: please go to ##cables
[03:47] <gaten> irishman2020: try this page for changing the port: http://www.bani.com.br/index.php/2007/04/25/hidden-features-of-vino-remote-desktop-access/
[03:47] <leo__> a galera
[03:47] <guycook_> gaten, I thought I did, I selected unmount and the light went off
[03:47] <digital_k> possum:you mean slow boot?
[03:47] <leo__> gnt
[03:47] <irishman2020> gaten: thanks
[03:48] <dsnyders> HI all.  logrotate is not rotating /var/log/messages.  Is that controlled elsewhere?
[03:48] <gaten> irishman2020: np
[03:48] <digital_k> you can profile the grub so that it boots faster
[03:48] <digital_k> ive done this and it works well
[03:48] <gaten> guycook_: donno then. is dmesg reporting any errors?
[03:48] <Possum> digital_k, yes
[03:48] <Possum> digital_k, profile? howso?
[03:48] <klh> where to install the mbr ? the default has (hd0)
[03:48] <fester225> I am attempting to run kdesu "update-manager -c. I get a ">". What do I do next?
[03:49] <PF|Ubuntu> Is there any way I can reinstall a package that came with ubuntu-desktop?
[03:49] <Cubey> hmmm, can't tell if it's stalling or just taking a long time to load.........
[03:49] <jasonfm> damn
[03:49] <jasonfm> lotta people
[03:49] <digital_k> possum:do you know how to edit grub?
[03:49] <Possum> digital_k, /boot/grub/grub.conf, yes
[03:49] <Cubey> i got the "Uncompressing Linux..." message, then the ubuntu screen came up showing actions, then it goes away back to the "Uncompressing Linux..." screen... is it stalling?
[03:50] <Pelo> !upgrade > fester225  check pm for instructions
[03:50] <irishman2020> gaten: wow! thats a ton better than what I was fighting with in vnc4server... shiz...
[03:50] <deCon> can someone PLEASE help me resolve some DNS issues i'm having with wifi?
[03:50] <Cubey> :
[03:50] <Cubey> |:|
[03:50] <Cubey> pesky enter key
[03:50] <digital_k> ok well when you boot your machine, click esc and pick your default kernel, select e to edit, go down to the 2nd option select e again to edit, and then add the word profile to the end of the line, no spaces and hit enter
[03:50] <Pelo> Cubey,  if it's still doign that after 15 minutes yes you are stalled
[03:51] <nRkiSt_> I'm having an upgrade problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21227/
[03:51] <Cubey> 5'ish minutes
[03:51] <Cubey> hmmm
[03:51] <dsnyders> deCon, what's happening/not happening
[03:51] <digital_k> let the machine boot normally, it will take a few minutes as it indexes and profiles the grub
[03:51] <digital_k> the next boot will be faster
[03:51] <irishman2020> anyone know of a better irc chat then xchat and pidgin? I'm using irssi because it does a better job of auto typing, etc
[03:51] <Pelo> nRkiSt_,  how about you give us the short version here
[03:51] <Cubey> it may not agree with that crappy little mobo
[03:51] <Possum> digital_k, I'll give it a try.. I can't modify grub.conf at all?
[03:51] <Slart> irishman2020: there's bitchX
[03:51] <digital_k> ive only done from boot
[03:51] <digital_k> not the conf file
[03:51] <Slart> !info bitchX
[03:51] <ubotu> bitchx: Advanced Internet Relay Chat client. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1506 kB, installed size 6508 kB
[03:51] <Cubey> hmm, i think i's stalled
[03:52] <deCon> dsnyders, i have fun iwconfig and my ath0 is showing, but under network-admin there is no DNS info, and i can't ping google.
[03:52] <irishman2020> Slart: lemme give that a try, ty
[03:52] <deCon> dsnyders: **run
[03:52] <nRkiSt_> I'm having an upgrade problem.  I'm trying to upgrade from dapper to edgy so that I may then do an upgrade to feisty (this being the recommended way according to the ubuntu site).  I have faithfully applied all the updates to my dapper system. When I attempt to perform the upgrade, the process starts smoothly until I get the following message whilst trying to fetch files:
[03:52] <Pelo> nRkiSt_,   I just took aquick look  , you'll have an easier time backuping your /home folder and installing fiesty from scratch
[03:52] <Possum> digital_k, ah, okay, it's also having trouble detecting the usb keyboard, so I'm gonna try in the conf file, thanks a lot :)
[03:52] <Slart> irishman2020: although I think it's text based.. but if you like that I think it's the best around
[03:52] <dsnyders> deCon, can you ping  by ip address?
[03:52] <digital_k> possum: have a look at this page http://yoten.blogspot.com/2007/04/speed-up-ubuntu.html
[03:52] <digital_k> # 7
[03:52] <deCon> dsnyders: ill try. but it says "unknown host"
[03:52] <digital_k> apparently you can edit the conf file
[03:52] <digital_k> ive never done it tho
[03:53] <deCon> dsnyders: what is syntax to stop a ping from continuing on?
[03:53] <Slart> deCon: ctrl-c =
[03:53] <Slart> ?
[03:53] <irishman2020> Slart: I'm using irssi right now, so txt based is fine... I just want one that I can scroll up with and maybe log, but also be able to use "tab" to auto fill names, etc
[03:53] <Pelo> nRkiSt_,  I donT' take pm from ppl I donT know ,  talk to me in this channel
[03:53] <dsnyders> deCon, press Ctrl-C
[03:53] <Slart> irishman2020: I've never used bitchX myself.. but I've heard it being mentioned.. hope it works for you
[03:54] <deCon> dsnyders: unknown host
[03:54] <Possum> digital_k, awesome, thanks
[03:54] <irishman2020> Slart: what do you use?
[03:54] <guycook_> gaten, making a second copy, well, likely a first this time when I tried to remove the stick I got a wait msg, time will tell
[03:54] <gaten> everyone make sure you update samba
[03:54] <dsnyders> deCon, try  ping -c 5 <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:54] <digital_k> yw possum, here is another how to as well http://tvease.net/wiki/index.php?title=Tweak_ubuntu_for_speed
[03:54] <Slart> irishman2020: I'm using the gnome version of xchat.. not very fancy but it's enough for me
[03:54] <gaten> guycook_: ok goodluck
[03:55] <cafuego> if you have an internet facing samba, you deserve all the trouble you get
[03:55] <irishman2020> Slart: I have that one, but I got addicted to the auto fill if irssi when all I had was terminal... I play it old school :-D
[03:55] <Cubey> seems to be stalling at "Add live cd user"
[03:55] <Slart> irishman2020: autofill? you mean tab completion of nicks? if so xchat does that
[03:55] <Cubey> yep, it is
[03:55] <Miso> Is there a workaround to install JRE in feisty for amd64?
[03:55] <guycook_> gaten, success got the vmware 6 workstation backed up on the stick, now willl copy to my home directory and pray for install read me <grin>
[03:55] <irishman2020> Slart: it wouldnt do it for me, it gave me a HUGE list after I typed tab
[03:56] <gaten> guycook_: ahh vmware, great stuff
[03:56] <Pelo> !javaflash
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about javaflash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <Pelo> !java
[03:56] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[03:56] <Khrajin> I recently installed Kubuntu 7.04 on two laptops. I have an Apple AirPort 802.11n wifi router configured on WEP (older wifi cards around that I have) and when I try to authenticate it it only prompts for WPA authentication not WEP. Any suggestions?
[03:56] <Slart> irishman2020: ah.. you want to be able to browse the list of nicks matching? well.. xchat won't do that for you =/
[03:56] <dsnyders> Hi all.  What is the control file governing the rotation of /var/log/messages?
[03:56] <irishman2020> Slart: no, thats what it did do... i typed tab, and a huge list appeared in the chat log
[03:57] <Slart> dsnyders: I think there's something called logrotate
[03:57] <Slart> !logrotate
[03:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logrotate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:57] <Slart> !info logrotate
[03:57] <ubotu> logrotate: Log rotation utility. In component main, is standard. Version 3.7.1-3 (feisty), package size 34 kB, installed size 160 kB
[03:57] <guycook_> gaten, can I just right click on the gz file and "Open with Archive Manager" ?
[03:57] <verb3k> Hi ....How to disable video preview in Nautilus? because my machine is a low-spec computer ...and I tried to disable it but it the preview options only covered images preview ...no thing about videos ...any hints please ? thanks
[03:57] <gaten> !info nmap
[03:57] <ubotu> nmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.20-1 (feisty), package size 732 kB, installed size 2644 kB
[03:57] <Cubey> yet again linux is slapping me in the face...
[03:57] <Pelo> Khrajin,  I think the forum is your best bet for an answer   www.ubuntuforums.com
[03:57] <Slart> irishman2020: I'm not following here.. what do you want it to do?
[03:57] <Pelo> Cubey,  turn the other cheek
[03:57] <gaten> guycook_: that should work fine
[03:57] <Cubey> can't even get a fresh clean new burn of the official ubuntu image to boot
[03:57] <rdvon> #gimp
[03:58] <rdvon> sry
[03:58] <Cubey> and it burned at 4x (pesky USB burner)
[03:58] <rdvon> wher'es the gimp irc channel?
[03:58] <Cubey> well, it claimed 20x but it took as long as 4x
[03:58] <Pelo> Cubey,  what it your system like ?
[03:58] <irishman2020> Slart: for example, I type Sl <tab> i want it to auto go to Slart or cycle the Sl list of users
[03:58] <deCon> dsnyders: i did ifdown and ifup ath0 and it said no dhcp offers received
[03:58] <Slart> irishman2020: ah that's what I mean by browse.. my bad..
[03:58] <Cubey> pelo: the system i'm trying to boot ubuntu on could be the problem. it's a cheapass little non-ATX gateway thing
[03:59] <irishman2020> Slart: currently it just displays a list of users in the chat log that begins with those names
[03:59] <deCon> dsnyders: does this mean that my WEP key could be wrong...or my router could be blocking it?
[03:59] <irishman2020> Slart: its a huge ease when doing messaging to one person or another
[03:59] <truz_`24> if you have test.ko
[03:59] <Cubey> "Gateway essential" is what they call it
[03:59] <irishman2020_> test
[03:59] <truz_`24> if you have test.ko, how do you insert it as a module?
[03:59] <Pelo> Cubey, you could try with  xubuntu, it is less demanding , or you can give the alternate install cd a shot it it text base
[03:59] <digital_k> an all in one cubey?
[03:59] <Slart> irishman2020: if you've typed in enough characters it will autofill it.. if it's ambigious it will show you the options..
[03:59] <digital_k> the little astro computer?
[03:59] <Cubey> essential
[03:59] <guycook_> gaten, it did something but I'm not sure where the files are now?
[04:00] <Pelo> Cubey,  cpu ? men ? hdd size ?
[04:00] <Cubey> 733MHz P3, no PS/2, no serial, no parallel
[04:00] <zarilion> I'm having some problems with torrent in Ubuntu. Have tried just about all the clients i can get for Ubuntu. But with all of them i get crappy DL speed and normal UL speed :( Had a windoze laptop her today to check if it was my connection but i could start the same torrents and the windoze one DL at 700Kib\s and this one was stuck at max 50KiB\s on the exact same torrent:( Anyone have any idea why this happen?
[04:00] <Pelo> Cubey,  you want  xubuntu
[04:00] <dsnyders> deCon, it could be a wep key.  Can you hook up via copper?
[04:00] <Cubey> pelo: that's besides the point. it's stalling, it won't even finish booting
[04:00] <digital_k> zarilion:which client are you using?
[04:00] <Pelo> zarilion,   utorrent running on wine
[04:00] <gaten> guycook_: you probably extracted them
[04:00] <digital_k> i use transmission and it works fine
[04:00] <zarilion> tried all clients.. havent tried utorrent on wine
[04:01] <dsnyders> deCon, by copper, I mean by hooking up a wire...
[04:01] <Pelo> Cubey,  consider there maybe something wrong with the drive
[04:01] <Cubey> it should work, even if slowly
[04:01] <Cubey> pelo: the drive is good
[04:01] <zarilion> atm im trying qbittorrent
[04:01] <irishman2020> they should just let you cycle through them with tab... like in irssi...
[04:01] <dsnyders> Slart, logrotate does not rotate /var/log/messages
[04:01] <deCon> dsnyders: no, i frakensteined this old box for xubuntu, and ill i had was a wireless card
[04:01] <irishman2020> I may just stick with irssi and run a log window... thats a pain, but its better than nothing
[04:01] <guycook_> gaten, I did the tar unpack from the command prompt in my home directory, now I have them where I can see what's what.
[04:01] <Cubey> i assume you mean the cd drive. it installed windows as of last week
[04:01] <Pelo> Cubey,   alternate isntall cd
[04:01] <Pelo> !alternate
[04:01] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[04:02] <Cubey> grrrr
[04:02] <gaten> guycook_: oh, its either in that directory or in a folder in that dir
[04:02] <Slart> dsnyders: ok.. I don't know how it's used.. but I think many applications depends on it for rotating logs.. figured perhaps the system does that too
[04:02] <Cubey> this is another reason i have issues with linux, stuff halfass works and they have to make several freaken copies of the same dang thing
[04:02] <zarilion> digital_k, i tried transmission but exactly the same there
[04:02] <Cubey> so basically i just wasted a good cdr for nothing
[04:02] <dcypherd> hey I have an interesting problem... I have ubuntu 7.04 and kubuntu 7.04 installed on my laptop(clean installs sharing a home directory.  Funny thing is that my wireless card works on kubuntu and not ubuntu... Support for it was added in 6.06 (i think) so i am a little confused
[04:03] <jasonmcg> hello
[04:03] <frazras> hello
[04:03] <guycook_> gaten, my root password isn't working? when I try to su from the prompt?
[04:03] <dsnyders> Slart, something called sysklogd does the actual rotating, and putting the --MARK-- lines in, but I can't see which file controls sysklod
[04:03] <Cubey> ok, lets try another cd drive for the heck of it
[04:03] <jasonmcg> could anyone here help with a problem im having with my perl packages?
[04:03] <Slart> dsnyders: checked crontab?
[04:03] <gaten> guycook_: unless you've set it up, ubuntu doesn't ship with the root account enabled. use sudo -i
[04:03] <Pelo> jasonmcg, we need specific
[04:03] <frazras> guycook: sudo passwd and change it
[04:03] <dsnyders> deCon, Try disabling WEP temporarily and see if you get anything.
[04:03] <nol13> is there any reason a certain program all of a sudden would no longer be able to use sound? sound in zsnes worked fine but now there is no sound, i tried restarting and all that.
[04:04] <jasonmcg> i'm trying to get the package for I::Socket::SSL
[04:04] <jasonmcg> lib-i-ssl or such in the SPM
[04:04] <jasonmcg> lib-io-ssl
[04:04] <digital_k> zarilion: do you have the proper ports forwarded in your router, assuming you have a router?
[04:04] <jasonmcg> when i get it in the package manager
[04:04] <jasonmcg> it says that it downloads and installs, but my package still isn't there?
[04:04] <Pelo> jasonmcg, please donT' use enter as punctuation
[04:04] <jasonmcg> Oh, sorry
[04:05] <hyperactivecrond> is it normal for everything to show up as a scsi drive in 7.04?
[04:05] <hyperactivecrond> i have ide drives
[04:05] <AaronCN_> I install thunderbird and webmail extension, but the status of pop/smtp is error. My computer is behind a ADSL router, and I think I didn't block any ports. What's wrong ?
[04:05] <Pelo> jasonmcg,  do you need this as a dependency for a package you are compiling manualy ?
[04:05] <zarilion> digital_k, have eliminated that one to.. connected straight in to the dsl modem
[04:05] <marky_b> any p2p's that dont run on java? i seem to be having some issues with limewire/frostwire(both java based)
[04:05] <guycook_> ok, the sudo passwd is updated,  now I can do the sudo command?  be like root correct?
[04:05] <Kyral_Laptop> hyperactivecrond: Yah the kernel changed subsystems
[04:05] <verb3k> Hi ....How to disable video preview in Nautilus? because my machine is a low-spec computer ...and I tried to disable it but it the preview options only covered images preview ...nothing about videos ...any hints please ? thanks
[04:05] <Pelo> hyperactivecrond,  all drives in feisty appear as sd?
[04:05] <hyperactivecrond> last time i checked the interface gnomes didnt show up and fix that
[04:05] <hyperactivecrond> Pelo: to me, yes
[04:05] <jasonmcg> i need the dependency for a perl script i am trying to write that will require an SSL socket..
[04:05] <dsnyders> Slart, crontab just has the usual in it.  ie run cron.daily daily, cron.monthly monthly, etc.
[04:05] <Pelo> hyperactivecrond,  for eveyone
[04:05] <hyperactivecrond> also is ndiswrapper in fiesty depreciated?
[04:05] <Spec> verb3k: if you're gonna keep asking the same question, can you not have the word 'spec' in it? thanks :)
[04:06] <Cubey> ...hm, ok, maybe it is the cd drive. heh. my apologies ;)
[04:06] <dcypherd> does anyone have a dlink aiplus g pcmcia rev e card in here
[04:06] <Pelo> hyperactivecrond,  the sd? was a wildcard not a question mark
[04:06] <deCon> dsnyders: kk
[04:06] <Cubey> seems to be booting now
[04:06] <Cubey> funny how that cd drive did fine for win2k
[04:06] <gaten> guycook_: yes, sudo -i starts a super user shell
[04:06] <verb3k> Spec,  Sorry about that :)
[04:07] <digital_k> zirilion: hmmmm, that is strange. did you try changing the default ports of the application?
[04:07] <Slart> dsnyders: then I'm out of ideas.... if it's being done on a timed schedule I would expect to find it in crontab.. but perhaps it's based on something else.. size of log or something..
[04:07] <jasonmcg> Pelo: so yes, i suppose it is for something i am compiling manually?
[04:07] <zarilion> digital_k, the thing is that it works perfectly on the windoze laptop. Prefer to use azuerus, using that on the laptop.
[04:07] <guycook_> gaten and others, thanks got the install started now...
[04:07] <Oni-Dracula> i has a problem, i just modified xorg, xmodmap, etc to make my new Logitech MX revolution work and it seems that after logging in all that starts is x...no gnome-panel, no metacity (that I know of), and no nautilus
[04:07] <digital_k> marky_b:gtkgnutella does not use java, i suggested that a few lines ago now. ;)
[04:07] <zarilion> whe
[04:07] <zarilion> oops
[04:07] <dsnyders> deCon, you could also try manually setting the ip address on the wireless card
[04:07] <Pelo> Cubey, often borked drives will do well with  commericaly printed cd but not with home made ones
[04:07] <dcypherd> are there any wireless experts in here
[04:07] <RagingBull> where is the xorg.conf located under ubuntu 7.04?
[04:08] <gaten> guycook_: sure thing
[04:08] <Pelo> RagingBull,  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:08] <hyperactivecrond> Pelo: mhm
[04:08] <deCon> dsnyders: static?
[04:08] <RagingBull> Pelo: ty
[04:08] <dsnyders> Slart, it is kind of in crontab.  sysklogd is run daily.
[04:08] <RagingBull> Pelo: was looking under user/X
[04:08] <marky_b> digital_k:  yea i saw that thanks :)
[04:08] <Pelo> hyperactivecrond,  I mean that for everyone all drives now show as sda sdb sdc etc
[04:08] <digital_k> lol ok just checkin ;)
[04:08] <dsnyders> deCon, yes static for testing for now.
[04:08] <RagingBull> Pelo: I have to learn how to use find
[04:08] <Smackeddown> Quick question ....
[04:08] <jasonmcg> Pelo: any suggestions?
[04:09] <jasonmcg> Pelo: think it could be because you need root permissions to write to /usr/lib/perl/5.8.8 ?
[04:09] <dsnyders> deCon, describe your network.
[04:09] <Pelo> jasonmcg, I did but you left   ,  when compiling manualy I often need to install   -dev packages as well for the dependencie to be satistied
[04:09] <scarter> has anyone successfully configured multisync with synce? if so, can you give me some tips or links that can assist with setup?
[04:09] <guycook_> gaten, it's asking me if I want the Eclipse Integrated Virtual Debugger, is Eclipse available for 64 bit Ubuntu??
[04:09] <Slart> dsnyders: well.. perhaps some googling on the subject might help you... anyways, I'm already late getting to bed.. hope you find out what rotates those log files =)
[04:10] <hyperactivecrond> is it possible to use ndiswrappper in 7.04 w/o compiling from source?
[04:10] <gaten> guycook_: i have no idea, sorry
[04:10] <Pelo> hyperactivecrond, have you checked in synaptic ?
[04:10] <guycook_> gaten, ok I"ll do without since I 'm not a debugger
[04:10] <hyperactivecrond> Pelo, doesn't show up
[04:10] <hyperactivecrond> Pelo, i've even tried through apt-get
[04:10] <Swaheali> I am trying to mount a DVD (CNC3 to be exact) and am getting this error in dmesg. "Unable to identify CD-ROM format" Anyone seen this before?
[04:11] <hyperactivecrond> oh and btw this is kubuntu..w ould that make a mattor?
[04:11] <hyperactivecrond> make a difference or matter ***
[04:11] <zarilion> digital_k, how can i open the ports in terminal then? and so that they stay open?
[04:11] <Pelo> hyperactivecrond,   sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-source
[04:11] <dsnyders> Slart, thanks for the help.  You may have flipped over a new scent for me to chase
[04:11] <Catoptromancy> I use the packages off the http://packages.ubuntu.com/    for ndiswrapper
[04:11] <hyperactivecrond> Pelo, apt-cache search ndiswrapper shows nothing
[04:11] <Pelo> hyperactivecrond,  possibly but I realy don't know
[04:11] <Catoptromancy> because the PC i install it on has no net to begin with
[04:11] <hyperactivecrond> Pelo, and also i have no internet without my wireless conection
[04:11] <digital_k> zarilion: i dont know, you can change that in the application prefs.
[04:11] <hyperactivecrond> linksys wmp54gs
[04:12] <Montaro> hyperactivecrond: ndiswrapper-common, and ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 is in gutsy, and if i remember correctly its in feisty too.
[04:12] <jasonmcg> Pelo: ah, my apologies.  I'm sorry, but i don't quite unerstand what you mean by -dev?
[04:12] <Cubey> pelo: it's pretty well fast on the 733MHz/512MB in live cd mode ;)
[04:12] <Pelo> hyperactivecrond, put the install cd in ,   apt-get update,  then try again
[04:12] <hyperactivecrond> Montaro, been there done that
[04:12] <hyperactivecrond> s/montaro/pelo
[04:12] <Cubey> i'm quite impressed with ubuntu... it detected and loaded the usb ethernet adapter
[04:12] <digital_k> i must be going, good luck to you all with issues. :)
[04:13] <guycook_> gaten, THANKS!!  the install seemed to work, started vmware and it came up with the familiar startup screen asked me if I wanted to create a new VM or open an existing one!
[04:13] <Cubey> firefox is pretty speedy in live cd mode on it
[04:13] <zarilion> digital_k, yeah, i know that. but it seemes like the system is setting a bottleneck on the incoming from the torrent programs no matter what ports im using
[04:13] <Pelo> jasonmcg, many packages come with developpement version (or versions with extras for developers) the whatever-dev  package, check in synaptic do you search again and see if there is a similarly named package with -dev at the end
[04:13] <gaten> guycook_: glad to hear it
[04:14] <guycook_> Cubey, I installed it and so far very nice, only issue is Xinerama and dual monitors NOW have one big wide monitor 2560x1024 or so
[04:14] <charlie> Hello, Please
[04:14] <Swaheali> Has anyone experiences issues mounting DVD's with 7.04? I keep getting.       block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[04:14] <Swaheali> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0,
[04:14] <Swaheali>        missing codepage or other error
[04:14] <Swaheali>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[04:14] <charlie> Hello, Please help i cant find any of my packages i have checked the var/cache and there are only a few of my many there!
[04:15] <charlie> Hello, Please help i cant find any of my packages i have checked the var/cache and there are only a few of my many there!
[04:15] <gluttony_> one more question about remote connection. what are the best ports to tell putty to go through?
[04:15] <Pelo> charlie, we heard the first time
[04:15] <charlie> sorry pelo typo
[04:15] <charlie> its been a long da
[04:15] <Smackeddown> O.K. here we go .. is it possible to install Ubuntu after a windows XP install? (Dual-Boot)
[04:15] <NickGarvey> Smackeddown: yes
[04:16] <NickGarvey> !dualboot | Smackeddown
[04:16] <Catoptromancy> I did yesterday
[04:16] <ubotu> Smackeddown: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[04:16] <craigbass1976> any postfix gurus in here?  I'm telnetted in and jsut finished typing a message, but can't remember (or figure out) how to end the mail.
[04:16] <Smackeddown> ty very much every one .. I am used to Suse and want to try ubuntu
[04:16] <andre> alguem consegue usar uma resoluo wide screen?
[04:16] <jeff_> !wpa
[04:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:17] <zarilion> Smackeddown, yes, i did it. and found out that i loved ubuntu so much that i installed it again without "dual-boot":P
[04:17] <ArghMonkey> hey gang
[04:17] <ArghMonkey> I could use ur help
[04:17] <mjordan2nd> Hi. So I just bought a new HD to install Ubuntu and keep Windows. I just want to make sure, if I do decide to patition my second hard disk, it won't touch my first, correct?
[04:17] <Pelo> charlie,  why do you need the cached packages ?
[04:17] <Pelo> Swaheali,  generaly when you mount a dvd it will be read only unless it is a blank, as for file type not sure unless it is a regionnly locked dvd
[04:17] <mjordan2nd> I'm currently in the installer.
[04:18] <charlie> just wondering if any one knows where all the installed packages are kept on ubuntu
[04:18] <scarter> has anyone successfully configured multisync with synce? if so, can you give me some tips or links that can assist with setup?
[04:18] <gluttony_> one more question about remote connection. what are the best ports to tell putty to go through?
[04:18] <charlie> i want to back them up
[04:18] <dartmolx> wtf happened to all of them?!
[04:18] <ArghMonkey> I have the ubuntu CD, I actually ordered it for free over the net and when i start my laptop and select "Start/Install Ubuntu", it says "loading" in the corner and then shuts off my laptop, its done this multiple times and I cant figure out why, please help if u can.
[04:18] <NickGarvey> !netsplit
[04:18] <charlie> shit
[04:18] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[04:18] <Baelrun> split
[04:18] <NickGarvey> !ohmy | charlie
[04:18] <charlie> whoosh gone
[04:19] <ubotu> charlie: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:19] <Baelrun> welcome back
[04:19] <Swaheali> Pelo: I am trying to mount a game CNC3.
[04:19] <yipe> welcome back: everybody
[04:19] <ArghMonkey> I have the ubuntu CD, I actually ordered it for free over the net and when i start my laptop and select "Start/Install Ubuntu", it says "loading" in the corner and then shuts off my laptop, its done this multiple times and I cant figure out why, please help if u can
[04:19] <Scribbler61> net split
[04:19] <Pelo> god this is annoying
[04:19] <NickGarvey> woo, yipe is back, I was afraid!
[04:19] <Pelo> Swaheali,  that would be why ,
[04:19] <ArghMonkey> if anyone can help me ud make my day
[04:19] <charlie> sory
[04:19] <yipe> NickGarvey, permabanned from -offtopic and forums ;)
[04:19] <hyperactivecrond> ArghMonkey, what do you need
[04:19] <ArghMonkey> I have the ubuntu CD, I actually ordered it for free over the net and when i start my laptop and select "Start/Install Ubuntu", it says "loading" in the corner and then shuts off my laptop, its done this multiple times and I cant figure out why, please help if u can
[04:20] <Swaheali> can you explain? Sorry if it is something I should just know.
[04:20] <Pelo> ArghMonkey, do you get as far as the boot menu ?
[04:20] <ArghMonkey> ya
[04:20] <ArghMonkey> thats no problem
[04:20] <NickGarvey> yipe: get my PM?
[04:20] <ArghMonkey> but when i select "Start/Install Ubuntu" it says "loading" in the corner and after about a minute it shuts off my laptop
[04:20] <charlie> i would like to put all my packages on dvd for another linux install i have apton cd but it is only showing a few packages and i dont know where to add them from
[04:20] <Pelo> Swaheali,  as far as I know  console game have their own format with computers don't read
[04:21] <ArghMonkey> and it does that more then once
[04:21] <Pelo> ArghMonkey,  what's your video card ?
[04:21] <ArghMonkey> ati something or other
[04:21] <Swaheali> Pelo:  this is the Pc version of the game. I can dual boot into my XP load on the same hardware and it reads fine.
[04:21] <Pelo> charlie,  I donT' think you can do it like that
[04:21] <arceye> how do i manually install realplayer10gold ?
[04:21] <axl000> anyone know why ubuntu auto enable tvout?
[04:21] <mjordan2nd> If I have two hard disks on my machine and I only want to partition the second one, how would I go about doing this.
[04:21] <mjordan2nd> Do I need to do it manually?
[04:21] <axl000> and how can i disable it?
[04:22] <Pelo> Swaheali,  this is a xp game you'll need someting like wine or cedega to run it
[04:22] <ArghMonkey> Pelo - any ideas ?
[04:22] <Swaheali> I loaded wine but when I try to install the game I cant read the disk as it wont mount.
[04:22] <Pelo> mjordan2nd,   boot up the live cd ,  in  menu > system > admin > gnome partition editor will let you change your partitons
[04:22] <charlie> well if i knew where all the packages were stored could i not just add them to the list, ? the other option is a 30GB download
[04:22] <charlie> id prefer to avoid that :)
[04:23] <yipe> how does a person change the color of the font in the tty?
[04:23] <Pelo> ArghMonkey, I think you'll need to use the alternate install cd and then install the ati driver manualy
[04:23] <yipe> I wanna change it to amber like on the DOS machine we had when I was a kid
[04:23] <ArghMonkey> i guess there are just too many ppl asking questions
[04:23] <arceye> Swahali    get cossover linux and use that its better than wine
[04:23] <Pelo> ArghMonkey,  but I am no expert on that particualr problem
[04:23] <ArghMonkey> Pelo - alternative install ?!
[04:23] <mjordan2nd> Pelo: Thanks.
[04:23] <Pelo> ArghMonkey,  did I not give you an answer that match the problem ?
[04:23] <ArghMonkey> Pelo - whats the alternative install cd?
[04:24] <Pelo> !alterate
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alterate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <Pelo> !alternate | ArghMonkey
[04:24] <ubotu> ArghMonkey: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[04:24] <ArghMonkey> Pelo - ya u did, i typed that before u replied :)
[04:24] <OldSal2> !alternate
[04:24] <Swaheali> Arc: I have heard the issue I am having not is I cannot mount the DVD to install.
[04:24] <guycook_> ah, workstation 6 creates 8GB partitions and likely biigger if I'd looked.
[04:24] <Swaheali> Arc: Sorry some of my line disappeared. I was saying I have heard crossover is the way to go.
[04:25] <Miso> Does anyone know of a work-around to install JRE on an amd64 running feisty?
[04:25] <Pelo> Miso, check in the forum
[04:25] <gaten> ArghMonkey: also did you try it in "safe graphics mode"?
[04:25] <guycook_> is the 'feisty' the 7.04 version?
[04:25] <Pelo> guycook_, yes
[04:25] <Swaheali> Yes Fiesty=7.04
[04:25] <arceye> i have used wine and had problems but crossover does what I want every time :)
[04:25] <guycook_> Pelo, thanks my 2nd day of this
[04:26] <entheo> how do i mount a .cue that is a video file?
[04:26] <Pelo> guycook_,  welcome to the madhouse
[04:26] <guycook_> Pelo, this has been a very helpful IRC channel
[04:26] <mojo> I read about apt-spy and netselect-apt for debian.  is there something similar for ubuntu?  i want to update from edgy to fiesty but i have been having problems with good connectivity to the standard us servers.  how can i find a list and determine which are the best mirrors?
[04:26] <Pelo> entheo, burn it it's less trouble
[04:26] <Pelo> guycook_,  we aim to please,  just donT, fuck with us
[04:26] <gaten> guycook_: and fyi feisty is version 7.04 because it was released in 2007 in the month of April (04)
[04:26] <EADG>  entheo vlc plas bin/cues
[04:26] <jeff_> what's the difference between network-admin and network manager?
[04:27] <entheo> vlc wouldn't play the sound though
[04:27] <entheo> burning it will work
[04:27] <CAL|Smeltn> hello. I have a problem
[04:27] <Pelo> mojo,  try looking in synaptic chance are they are also available, it not you can use the debian packages to install in ubuntu with no or few problems
[04:27] <EADG> odd
[04:27] <Tom47> mnb
[04:27] <Pelo> CAL|Smeltn, care to share ?
[04:27] <mojo> Pelo... I am talking about doing a dist-upgrade of ubuntu.  i doubt using debian repos would work for that
[04:28] <randomwalker> !ask | CAL|Smeltn
[04:28] <ubotu> CAL|Smeltn: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:28] <ArghMonkey> gaten - yes i did and it still shut off my laptop
[04:28] <mojo> Pelo: oh, but i will look for apt-spy and netselect-apt, i see what you meant
[04:28] <Pelo> mojo, sorry I missunderstood,  I can't help then
[04:28] <charlie> ok i'm off, UBUNTU is great but it requires a lot of effort to set up if you are new to it
[04:28] <gaten> ArghMonkey: hmm, that sucks. try alternate cd like someone suggested
[04:28] <Pelo> charlie,  you'll get the hang of it
[04:28] <Pelo> or die trying
[04:29] <emodan> (charlie): not unless if you were lucky like me and got the hang of it quick :p
[04:29] <ArghMonkey> im digging through the forum and looking for the 7.04 alternatve download
[04:29] <CAL|Smeltn> ok I am trying to install Ubuntu for the first time
[04:29] <Cubey> hm, the partitioner seems a wee bit slow vs partition magic
[04:29] <mister_roboto> mojo: have you tried simply removing the "us." and going to the generic servers? many of my problems went away by doing so since the us. ones seem to go down a lot
[04:29] <OldSal2> /who
[04:29] <yipe> !virtual terminal
[04:29] <CAL|Smeltn> on my laptop but it isnt working.. it just sits there on with an orange background
[04:29] <gaten> installing Ubuntu can be daunting, but i find maintaining it is MUCH easier than with Win XP
[04:29] <yipe> !tty
[04:29] <ubotu> To get to the tty terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).
[04:29] <CAL|Smeltn> its trying to do the "Live CD"
[04:29] <CAL|Smeltn> so I can get to the desktop and then click the install
[04:30] <mojo> mister_roboto: no i have not tried that yet
[04:30] <Jkensy01> Hey guys - I use newsgroups for file transfer.  In Windows I use an application "GrabIt" - is there something I can use in Ubuntu
[04:30] <ArghMonkey> anyone know where i can download the alternative install of 7.04 ?
[04:30] <Pelo> CAL|Smeltn,  what video card ?
[04:30] <CAL|Smeltn> is there a way to install it without having to go the desktop
[04:30] <Cubey> pelo: worked perfectly on an old gateway piece of crap pc amazingly
[04:30] <Pelo> !torrents > ArghMonkey check pm window
[04:30] <ArghMonkey> thanks Pelo, ur good ppl :)
[04:30] <mister_roboto> mojo: just back up your /etc/apt/sources.list and remove all the "us." from the beginning of the server names and try again
[04:30] <Pelo> !download > ArghMonkey  check pm window
[04:30] <charlie> i'm trying but i think maybe i am being a little too ambitious trying to install on another machine from a disk with all the packages downloaded on my machine. Basically i want to coppy all my apps and system.
[04:31] <mojo> mister_roboto: i already used the drop-down list in synaptic repo config and chose main servers
[04:31] <borgista> My gnome-theme settings are all wacked-out after installing-and-removing Kubuntu. Any ideas?
[04:31] <Pelo> Cubey,  ??? sorry ? lots of ppl here I can't keep track ? you'Re install worked , great
[04:31] <CAL|Smeltn> Intel i830MG onboard graphic controller with shared memory
[04:31] <jeff_> I've been reading some of the howto's and people talk about lists of wireless networks with Network Manager.  I can see my wireless router and wlan0, but no wifi networks.  what gives?
[04:31] <Pelo> CAL|Smeltn,  the live cd should work properly for you,  when you get to the boot menu run the cd integrity check
[04:31] <CAL|Smeltn> I did
[04:31] <CAL|Smeltn> it said no errors found
[04:31] <mister_roboto> mojo: ok, i don't use synaptic so i don't know what that does. probably the same thing but can't tell without seeing sources.list
[04:31] <CAL|Smeltn> it works fine on my desktop
[04:32] <CAL|Smeltn> if I do run it there
[04:32] <Pelo> !alternate > CAL|Smeltn check the pm window
[04:32] <teleforce> i just installed ubuntu
[04:32] <teleforce> the command line installer from the site
[04:32] <Pelo> teleforce, welcome to the madhouse
[04:32] <mojo> mister_roboto: i believe it does.. am checking /etc/apt/sources.list now
[04:32] <bobbob1016> I've heard a few things about Windows Home Server, and I know ubuntu is planning a few new distros, as in a mobile version, does anyone know if they are planning an Ubuntu Home Server?
[04:32] <Miso> !wine
[04:32] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:32] <Pelo> mister_roboto,  synaptic is a gui frontend for apt-get
[04:33] <mister_roboto> Pelo: yes, i know what it is, just don't use it
[04:33] <teleforce> 5 minutes playing with ubuntu, i already can tell it kicks AS5!
[04:33] <charlie> i guess if you  sit and watch the IRC all day you learn stuff
[04:33] <teleforce> it didn't come with xchat
[04:33] <guycook_> Houston we have a problem, when I try to power on the VM so I can try installing Winxp-x64 It says "Unable to change virtual machine power state" Failed to connect to peer process"  first bump in the ride.
[04:33] <sayno> teleforce, it gets way better with beryl and xgl
[04:33] <melinate> hello folks, I have Dapper installed on a web server and I now have a need to set up email forwarding [aliasing]  on the same domain.  Is there another way to have a couple of email addresses forward to another account without having to set up an entire email server?
[04:33] <mister_roboto> Pelo: i used "adept" a few times (i'm a kde user) but it seems easier to just go command line most of the time
[04:33] <Pelo> bobbob1016,  the beauty of linux is you can pretty much have any config you want ,  get straight ubuntu , and the lamp stuf and you ahve a home server
[04:33] <teleforce> i installed xchat in like 15 seconds
[04:33] <CAL|Smeltn> is there a way I can have it install without trying to run the live cd desktop first?
[04:34] <mojo> mister_roboto: seems to have..  looks like i will have to do some clean up of third party repos when i'm done... i have a few edgy 3pty ones like kubuntu amarok-145, beryl, automatix, etc. to clean up
[04:34] <Pelo> charlie,  you learn more if you try stuff out and break it
[04:34] <Pelo> !install > CAL|Smeltn check pm window
[04:34] <mojo> lol@pelo  painful truism
[04:34] <guycook_> I"m going to restart, bye for now thanks again everyone
[04:34] <borgista> My gnome-theme settings are all wacked-out after installing-and-removing Kubuntu. Any ideas?
[04:34] <charlie> i have re-installed my system 5 times in the last 3 days
[04:34] <Miso> !beryl
[04:34] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:34] <borgista> My Theme-Manger is illegible
[04:35] <mister_roboto> borgista: stick with kubuntu?   :)
[04:35] <Pelo> mojo,  the trick is to setup / home one a seperate partition , then you can effup stuff all you want and just reinstall
[04:35] <craine> how can I upgrade from dapper to feistry
[04:35] <borgista> mister_roboto: I was using ubuntu then wanted to try kubuntu, didn't like it and switched back.
[04:35] <borgista> mister_roboto: and it was working fine before.
[04:35] <mojo> Pelo: yep... that is exacly how i am set up
[04:35] <mister_roboto> craine: by going dapper->edgy->feisty
[04:35] <Pupen1> Is there a VNC client that I can use to connect to a KDE shared dekstop (that is not KDE's client)?
[04:35] <mister_roboto> borgista: sorry, was a stupid joke. i don't know how to fix it
[04:35] <Pelo> craine,  you can'T you can only upgrade to the next one, you are better off making a back up of your /home folder and install from scratch
[04:36] <bobbob1016> Pelo, I meant one that does it automatically.  I have two freenas boxes setup, I just meant I heard some nice features of Windows Home Server, it automatically allows you to login to it from the internet, it does auto-backup and indexing, and I'm not sure about this, but I heard it can compress backups, as in if I have the same exact file as another person's backup, it combines them
[04:36] <usser> Pupen1: pretty much any client will do
[04:36] <borgista> mister_roboto: alright, thanks anyway.
[04:36] <gwirzt> hola
[04:36] <IGxMyzt> ello
[04:36] <gwirzt> alguien que hable espaol?
[04:36] <gwirzt> hello
[04:36] <Flannel> !es | gwirzt
[04:36] <ubotu> gwirzt: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:36] <Pelo> bobbob1016,  you seem to know more about thsi then I do
[04:36] <gwirzt> thank
[04:37] <bobbob1016> gwirzt, de nada
[04:37] <mojo> borgista: if you did an apt-get insall kubuntu-desktop and later removed it, you may just have to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to re-apply the metapackage
[04:37] <usser> Pupen1: ultravnc is a great tool for windows
[04:37] <IGxMyzt> can anyone read this and tell me what they think? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2669027
[04:37] <mjordan2nd> If I want to have a shared partition between windows and linux, I want to go with fat32 correct?
[04:38] <borgista> thanks mojo
[04:38] <mister_roboto> mjordan2nd: that will certainly work well. i've done that with 0 problems
[04:38] <Pupen1> usser: who is running Windows?
[04:38] <mojo> borgista: g/l
[04:38] <mjordan2nd> mister_roboto: Thanks
[04:38] <borgista> mojo: thanks, brb
[04:38] <Cubey> hmmmm, poor installer crashed. claimed out of space.. strange
[04:38] <mojo> mjordan2nd: don't you mean "domo morigato"
[04:38] <mojo> or whatever the japanese is
[04:38] <mister_roboto> mojo: or domo arigato  ;)
[04:38] <mjordan2nd> rofl
[04:39] <jeff_> Is there a good howto for wireless with wpa on fiesty with a bcm4306 card?
[04:39] <mojo> :)
[04:39] <mjordan2nd> I think that would be more appropriate
[04:39] <teleforce> the dual boot install of ubuntu was easy
[04:39] <craine> mister_roboto:  I'm anew new user how can I start
[04:39] <bobbob1016> jeff_, I'll send you the link, one second
[04:39] <usser> Pupen1: x11vnc is client i often use tightvnc is pretty good too
[04:39] <mister_roboto> craine: well, the live cd is a great way to try stuff out without committing your machine
[04:39] <jeff_> bobbob1016: awesome, thanks.
[04:39] <Pupen1> usser: thanks.
[04:39] <borgista> mojo: no avail.
[04:39] <Madpilot> What is the syntax to get a list of all installed packages via apt-get/dpkg/aptitude/whatever?
[04:39] <teleforce> this fiesty ferret version is cool
[04:40] <MikeReiner> can someone help me with sound problems i'm having ut2004?
[04:40] <bobbob1016> jeff_, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Ndiswrapper_for_Broadcom_43xx_wireless_chipset
[04:40] <mojo> MikeReiner: i think it uses asound output
[04:40] <Pelo> Madpilot, man apt-get
[04:40] <bobbob1016> jeff_, ubuntuguide.org has some helpful stuff
[04:40] <MikeReiner> mojo: yes, it does
[04:40] <IGxMyzt> anyone know what's wrong?
[04:40] <coudermann> Hi
[04:40] <Madpilot> Pelo, serves me right ;)
[04:41] <coudermann> some program to edit vob files?
[04:41] <MikeReiner> mojo: The sound is really distorted sometimes
[04:41] <Pelo> IGxMyzt,  give us the short version
[04:41] <mjordan2nd> When trying to partition, I keep getting the following message: File system doesn't have expected sizes for Windows to like it. Cluster size is 2k (1k expected); number of clusters is 20017 (39957 expected); size of FATs is 79 sectors (157 expected).
[04:41] <bimberi> Madpilot: dpkg -l | grep ^ii     and Hi!
[04:41] <Pelo> coudermann,  gedit ?
[04:41] <mjordan2nd> I'm not sure what to make of that.
[04:41] <mojo> Madpilot: i heard that if you dump a list of packages that are installed to a text file, you can use that to re-install them should you have to rebuild your system
[04:41] <Khrajin> Can you make a Monitor display a resolution higher than it is supposed to natively?
[04:41] <IGxMyzt> Windows: 120 GB
[04:41] <IGxMyzt> Ubuntu: 80 GB
[04:41] <IGxMyzt> Install Type: Both Masters (Switched out cables/no bios or bootloader changes at all)
[04:41] <IGxMyzt> Installed ubuntu 6.10, then XP died and wouldnt reinstall. It won't install on the 120 gb, so now im using the 80 gb for winxp.
[04:42] <IGxMyzt> i think the 120 gb is now completely dead.
[04:42] <bobbob1016> IGxMyzt, the fact that they were both masters is a bit weird
[04:42] <craine> mister_roboto: is there a way Ican do in the repositories?
[04:42] <teleforce> i freaked out at first with my ubuntu install
[04:42] <IGxMyzt> people said it'd work fine
[04:42] <IGxMyzt> tried it, and now i have issues
[04:42] <Pelo> IGxMyzt,  unplug the 80 gig and try booting just the 120 one
[04:42] <IGxMyzt> and it worked fine with redhat
[04:42] <Cubey> ahh, /boot filled. ok, forget a seperate /boot partition this time
[04:42] <teleforce> the resolution was sooo extreme 3/4ths of the screen was off my monitor
[04:42] <IGxMyzt> Pelo: i did, its wack now
[04:42] <mister_roboto> craine: sorry but i have no idea what you're asking
[04:43] <bobbob1016> IGxMyzt, you obviously don't have them both plugged in at the same time, right?
[04:43] <teleforce> but it took me like 5 seconds to fix it
[04:43] <IGxMyzt> i only switched the cord, didn't have two cords
[04:43] <mister_roboto> craine: a way you can do what?
[04:43] <zemonsta> hey all, trying to install libmagick9-dev, but it has unmet dependencies libwmf-dev and libfreetype6-dev! Is there a repository i can add that has them? HELP
[04:43] <Pelo> IGxMyzt, well depending on the age ofthe hdd it might just hve been it's time to go
[04:43] <mojo> woo hoo upgrade has started
[04:43] <Pelo> ahhhh