[05:48] <blues12> hey
[05:49] <blues12> Anyone knows if canon pixma340 works with ubuntu 11.04 ?
[06:20] <philipballew> can anyone tell me if i have a hardware problem or ubuntu problem?
[06:20] <Error404NotFoun1> ?
[06:21] <philipballew> my computer keeps randomly shutting off. like if i was to instently unplugg it
[06:21] <Error404NotFoun1> over heating?
[06:21] <holstein> philipballew: you can get a live CD
[06:21] <holstein> something non-buntu even
[06:22] <holstein> then, you'll know if its hardware or software
[06:22] <holstein> OR at least have a better idea
[06:22] <Error404NotFoun1> boot into bios once
[06:22] <Error404NotFoun1> see if it still shuts off
[06:22] <philipballew> it has shut off when im chooseing what to boot into on grab
[06:23] <Error404NotFoun1> id say its hardware then
[06:23] <Error404NotFoun1> cpu fan spinning?
[06:23] <holstein> live CD's are such great diagnostic tools
[06:23] <philipballew> im thinking overheating and its hardware. i need do test it with a live cd yes. it has died also when its still says dell on boot
[06:24] <holstein> ah
[06:24] <holstein> yeah, if its died out there
[06:24] <Error404NotFoun1> make sure yer cpu fan is spinning
[06:24] <holstein> id say its hardware
[06:24] <Error404NotFoun1> if it stops it will auto shut off yer puter
[06:24] <holstein> yeah, check the proc fan
[06:24] <philipballew> how can i make sure its spinning. just manually?
[06:24] <holstein> maybe look and make sure the heatsink is seated and looking right
[06:24] <Error404NotFoun1> take side off case
[06:24] <Error404NotFoun1> turn it on
[06:25] <philipballew> laptop
[06:25] <holstein> unless its a lappy*
[06:25] <holstein> yeah ^
[06:25] <Error404NotFoun1> eww
[06:25] <holstein> try taking some covers off
[06:25] <holstein> and looking in there
[06:25] <holstein> if you have any of that compressed air
[06:25] <bioterror> install lm-sensors
[06:25] <holstein> try taht
[06:25] <Error404NotFoun1> plugged in yes?
[06:25] <holstein> that*
[06:25] <bioterror> and check the cpu temp's
[06:25] <philipballew> bioterror what do you mean?
[06:25] <holstein> sometimes, you can just blow a lot of animal hair or dust out of them
[06:25] <holstein> and its fine :)
[06:26] <Error404NotFoun1> if its shutting off that fast its not overheating
[06:26] <holstein> could be
[06:26] <Error404NotFoun1> fan is prolly clogged
[06:26] <philipballew> yeah, could be
[06:26] <holstein> if its tricking the sensor somehow
[06:26] <holstein> who knows
[06:26] <holstein> wont hurt to blow it out
[06:26] <philipballew> it shuts off over and over unless i let it sit for like a few
[06:26] <bioterror> BIOS should usually too tell the CPU temp
[06:27] <philipballew> ill boot into bios now. ill be back in a bit!!!
[06:27] <bioterror> around 90C is the limit
[06:27] <Error404NotFoun1> when last time you cleaned it
[06:27] <philipballew> ok. ill tell what it says.
[06:27] <philipballew> december
[06:27] <bioterror> and yeah
[06:27] <bioterror> blow in to that fan
[06:27] <bioterror> like that wolf in three little pigs story
[06:28] <philipballew> with airduster?
[06:28] <holstein> hehe
[06:28] <philipballew> in a can?
[06:28] <Error404NotFoun1> yes
[06:28] <Error404NotFoun1> canned air is good
[06:28] <holstein> ideally
[06:28] <philipballew> if not then hair dryer?
[06:28] <bioterror> or with your lungs
[06:28] <Error404NotFoun1> lol
[06:28] <holstein> nah
[06:28] <Error404NotFoun1> wont do anything
[06:28] <holstein> something with force
[06:28] <Error404NotFoun1> not a vacuum
[06:29] <philipballew> true. ill get one then
[06:29] <seidos> BIOS update?
[06:29] <philipballew> how can i update bios on linux?
[06:29] <holstein> seidos: you are thinking corrupt bios?
[06:29] <philipballew> all bios updates come in exe anyway
[06:29] <Error404NotFoun1> if it was corrupt it wouldnt boot at all
[06:29] <holstein> philipballew: should be some bootable media way
[06:29] <seidos> nope
[06:30] <seidos> i made a bootable cd for this toshiba
[06:30] <philipballew> but i might just need to clean this fan
[06:30] <seidos> to update the BIOS
[06:30] <holstein> yeah, id clean
[06:30] <seidos> place your bets
[06:30] <seidos> what are the odds?
[06:30] <holstein> i have a 'if it aint broke' policy with bioses
[06:30] <Error404NotFoun1> slim to none
[06:30] <philipballew> i just need to find a can to rule that out
[06:31] <bioterror> use your  lungs :D
[06:31] <bioterror> you dont need propellant
[06:32] <Error404NotFoun1> if its clogged to the point of stopping the fan his lungs aint gonna help
[06:32] <holstein> *wont hurt
[06:32] <holstein> i would try that before running out for a can of stuff
[06:33] <bioterror> then he does not blow air like that wolf in three little pigs story
[06:34] <Error404NotFoun1> im bored
[06:34] <Error404NotFoun1> i need something to go wrong with ubuntu so i have something to do
[06:34] <bioterror> ahhh, we have guy with adhd ;)
[06:35] <Error404NotFoun1> its called nearly a month of no psn
[06:35] <Error404NotFoun1> im ready to kill myself lol
[06:35] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/clicompanion
[06:35] <bioterror> poor americans and PSN ;)
[06:35] <holstein> ^ clicompanion is fun :)
[06:35] <Error404NotFoun1> its world wide
[06:35] <Error404NotFoun1> not just america
[06:35] <bioterror> yeah, but mostly americans whines about it :D
[06:36] <Error404NotFoun1> us americans are programmed to playing games allday!
[06:36] <holstein> psn?
[06:36] <Error404NotFoun1> i cant help it
[06:36] <holstein> playstation something?
[06:36] <bioterror> holstein, playstation networ
[06:36] <bioterror> k
[06:36] <Error404NotFoun1> network
[06:36] <holstein> where did it go?
[06:36] <Error404NotFoun1> there was an update today
[06:36] <bioterror> got hacked
[06:36] <holstein> interesting
[06:36] <Error404NotFoun1> so i think monday it will be upo
[06:36] <bioterror> someone got like tons of credit card numbers
[06:37] <holstein> drag..
[06:37] <philipballew> just did it when booted onto bios!!!
[06:37] <bioterror> but maybe something for breakfast
[06:37] <Error404NotFoun1> sony is offering 1m in identity theft protection
[06:37] <Error404NotFoun1> to every psn member
[06:38] <holstein> philipballew: now you know
[06:38] <holstein> and if i were you
[06:38] <holstein> i would unplug the hard drive
[06:38] <holstein> *if thats easy
[06:38] <holstein> til you get it sorted out
[06:38] <philipballew> yes. it is.
[06:38] <Error404NotFoun1> philipballew: are you plugged in?
[06:38] <philipballew> yes. ill turn off the machine now and clean it tommorow
[06:39] <philipballew> if thats best?
[06:39] <Error404NotFoun1> im just wondering if its a power problem
[06:39] <philipballew> its done it on battery and on ac
[06:39] <holstein> i have a macbook
[06:39] <holstein> its got a bad ram slot
[06:39] <holstein> when memory is in that slot
[06:39] <Error404NotFoun1> doh
[06:39] <holstein> and you just tap the table
[06:39] <holstein> or the unit
[06:39] <holstein> it dies
[06:40] <holstein> that took a lot of trial and error to sort out
[06:40] <Error404NotFoun1> lol
[06:40] <bioterror> who forced you to buy c*apbook ;)
[06:40] <Error404NotFoun1> how old?
[06:40] <philipballew> that sounds tricky
[06:40] <holstein> bioterror: actually, thats how i got it
[06:40] <holstein> my friend thought it was dead
[06:40] <holstein> when i figured out it wasnt so dead
[06:40] <Error404NotFoun1> nothing wrong with macbooks
[06:41] <bioterror> I would take powerbook G4 12"
[06:41] <holstein> i tried to offer some $$ for it
[06:41] <bioterror> I like that
[06:41] <seidos> nothing wrong with slack macs
[06:41] <philipballew> i should probably turn off my comp now?
[06:41] <holstein> yeah, this one is pretty cheaply made
[06:41] <Error404NotFoun1> philipballew:  you aere on that computer now?
[06:41] <philipballew> yes i am
[06:41] <Error404NotFoun1> lol
[06:41] <philipballew> its the only one i have
[06:41] <Error404NotFoun1> its not overheating then
[06:41] <Error404NotFoun1> sounds like power management
[06:42] <holstein> yeah
[06:42] <holstein> thats going to be fiddly to troubleshoot
[06:42] <holstein> its not the OS though
[06:42] <philipballew> maybe its not heated up all the way yet to turn off
[06:42] <holstein> maybe*
[06:42] <Error404NotFoun1> if it was clogged it would be a couple minutes
[06:42] <Error404NotFoun1> pretty regularly
[06:43] <philipballew> i have the warenty. i can have free parts shipped to me
[06:43] <Error404NotFoun1> lol
[06:43] <philipballew> only problem is someone else puts it in
[06:43] <Error404NotFoun1> since when does a computer company ship parts
[06:43] <philipballew> i dont like when other people work on my computer
[06:44] <Error404NotFoun1> what brand puter?
[06:44] <philipballew> its a dell
[06:44] <holstein> philipballew: unless its free, and helpful :)
[06:44] <Error404NotFoun1> theres yer problem
[06:44] <philipballew> dells are awesome!
[06:44] <Error404NotFoun1> dells are shit
[06:44] <philipballew> im sorry you think that
[06:44] <holstein> yeah, ive had decent luck with them too
[06:45] <holstein> the old old computers in the house
[06:45] <holstein> that are still running
[06:45] <holstein> they are dells
[06:45] <holstein> i got a stack of dead compaq's
[06:45] <Error404NotFoun1> dell is prolly worst laptop on the market
[06:45] <holstein> eh
[06:45] <philipballew> i have dells still running that came with win 98
[06:45] <Error404NotFoun1> well i actualy work on computers
[06:46] <Error404NotFoun1> most are dells
[06:46] <Error404NotFoun1> toshiba
[06:46] <Error404NotFoun1> hp
[06:46] <holstein> right, but most are dells
[06:46] <holstein> in general*
[06:46] <Error404NotFoun1> nah
[06:46] <holstein> you wouls statistically be working on more dells possibly
[06:46] <Error404NotFoun1> way more hp laptops
[06:46] <Error404NotFoun1> in general
[06:47] <philipballew> you need to know the type of people owning dells and the number of dells sold in relation to other brands
[06:47] <philipballew> for yoyr statement to be true
[06:47] <holstein> well, i dont work for dell
[06:47] <holstein> so i dont care
[06:47] <holstein> you can hate them
[06:47] <holstein> im not so turned off i wouldnt get one though
[06:47] <holstein> and they sell buntu machines :)
[06:47] <Error404NotFoun1> i am
[06:48] <philipballew> they sell 2 models
[06:48] <Error404NotFoun1> i like my acer
[06:48] <holstein> yeah?
[06:48] <holstein> i have heard bad things about acer
[06:48] <holstein> but, the price is right
[06:48] <philipballew> i should get my prosser to work hard and see if that turns it off
[06:49] <Error404NotFoun1> that would do it
[06:49] <holstein> philipballew: i use a live CD
[06:49] <holstein> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[06:49] <Error404NotFoun1> live cd isnt gonna max his cpu
[06:49] <holstein> theres some tool in there for working the CPU
[06:49] <philipballew> would a ubuntu live cd work!
[06:49] <holstein> cpu burn in?
[06:49] <holstein> something like that
[06:49] <philipballew> i have that with me and im nit at home
[06:49] <philipballew> i usually use that
[06:49] <holstein> philipballew: it would, but i dont know the tool to do that
[06:49] <holstein> right off hand
[06:50] <holstein> like Error404NotFoun1 says, a live CD is not really going to do anything
[06:50] <holstein> *a typical live CD
[06:50] <philipballew> how so?
[06:51] <holstein> not going to 'work the CPU'
[06:52] <philipballew> true. i just need to figure whats turning it off. would it be in the logs?
[06:52] <holstein> i wouldnt think so
[06:52] <Error404NotFoun1> doubt it
[06:52] <holstein> if i were you
[06:52] <holstein> i would take the hard drive out
[06:52] <holstein> and just start checking things
[06:52] <holstein> the hard drive can be damaged
[06:52] <holstein> if you get it out of the way
[06:53] <holstein> then, you can pretty much tweak and not worry about breaking anything
[06:53] <holstein> any worse
[06:53] <philipballew> should i turn off the computer then?
[06:53] <holstein> shuting down like that will do something to the hard drive
[06:53] <philipballew> probablly...
[06:53] <holstein> eventually
[06:54] <philipballew> true
[06:54] <holstein> philipballew: eh
[06:54] <Error404NotFoun1> id have to say yer gonna be sending yer computer to sell
[06:54] <holstein> you've made it this far :)
[06:54] <seidos> if you have data that you need...probably should be thinking about that if you aren't already
[06:54] <Error404NotFoun1> if you mess with it
[06:54] <Error404NotFoun1> will void warranty
[06:54] <Error404NotFoun1> dell*
[06:54] <holstein> yeah, you dont want to void the warranty
[06:54] <philipballew> true. ill take out hd and back it up on another comp
[06:54] <seidos> good point Error404NotFoun1, get it serviced if still under warranty
[06:55] <holstein> philipballew: good luck
[06:55] <holstein> i gotta get horizontal
[06:55] <Error404NotFoun1> lol
[06:55] <Error404NotFoun1> still early here
[06:55] <Error404NotFoun1> ima play some gta
[06:56] <philipballew> thanks. ill turn it off now to not risk it from breaking
[06:56] <holstein> Error404NotFoun1: im glad you had the opportunity to hang out with me again ;)
[06:56] <holstein> laterx...
[06:56] <Error404NotFoun1> peace homie
[06:57] <Error404NotFoun1> philipballew:
[06:57] <Error404NotFoun1> this is why its never good to use a laptop as a main computer
[06:57] <Error404NotFoun1> there is no such thing as a desktop replacement
[06:58] <seidos> i disagree
[06:58] <seidos> depends what you use your computer for
[06:58] <Error404NotFoun1> you would be wrong then lol
[06:59] <seidos> :B
[06:59] <Error404NotFoun1> if you use your computer to check email and shut it off yeah
[06:59] <Error404NotFoun1> you can replace a desktop
[06:59] <seidos> writing, watching multimedia
[06:59] <seidos> listening to music
[06:59] <seidos> 2d gaming
[06:59] <Error404NotFoun1> you cant replace a desktop for any of that
[06:59] <seidos> youtube, blogging...
[07:00] <seidos> i did
[07:00] <Error404NotFoun1> for now you did
[07:00] <seidos> i suspect for several years to come
[07:00] <Error404NotFoun1> several laptops too
[07:00] <seidos> but yeah, i don't play GTA
[07:01] <Error404NotFoun1> whats gta have to do with anything lol
[07:01] <seidos> building an alternate reality takes a lot of computing power
[07:01] <Error404NotFoun1> ps3
[07:01] <seidos> so what do you use your desktop for?
[07:02] <Error404NotFoun1> chat
[07:02] <Error404NotFoun1> email
[07:02] <Error404NotFoun1> web surfing
[07:04] <Error404NotFoun1> i stopped gaming on pc awhile ago
[07:04] <Error404NotFoun1> why you think im on ubuntu
[07:04] <Error404NotFoun1> lol
[07:06] <Error404NotFoun1> gamers use windows
[07:13] <seidos> gamers use wine i heard
[07:15] <DarkwingDuck> Gamers use PS3s
[07:17] <seidos> and never wine
[07:18] <seidos> gamers use "milton bradley" :P
[07:22] <Error404NotFoun1> wine is garbage
[07:27] <seidos> italy
[07:27] <Error404NotFoun1> ?
[07:27] <seidos> garbage crisis
[07:28] <Error404NotFoun1> wine the program is garbage
[07:28] <seidos> italy
[07:28] <Error404NotFoun1> italy is garbage too
[07:28] <seidos> what isn't garbage?
[07:29] <Error404NotFoun1> my garbage
[07:29] <Error404NotFoun1> is precious
[07:29] <seidos> the one ring
[07:34] <Error404NotFoun1> you make no sense
[07:34] <seidos> cents
[07:36] <Error404NotFoun1> you need to lay off the crack
[07:40] <seidos> crack kills
[07:40] <seidos> especially butt cracks
[07:44] <seidos> heh, i think i found the solution to not being able to invert colors in kde and fluxbox
[07:44] <seidos> sunglasses!
[07:44] <Error404NotFoun1> pebkac error?
[07:45] <seidos> problem between keyboard and chair
[07:45] <seidos> pbkc
[07:46] <seidos> pbkac
[07:46] <seidos> peanut butter killed air conditioning
[07:46] <bioterror> hmmm
[07:46] <seidos> ebola
[07:46] <bioterror> I've heard new york is not that far what Italy had problems with garbage
[07:46] <seidos> figures
[07:47] <bioterror> people just dumps their garbage bags on the street
[07:47] <seidos> everyone is too good to pick up garbage
[07:47] <Error404NotFoun1> they are to damn lazy
[07:47] <bioterror> Error404NotFoun1, http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/05/15/play-on-psn-restoration-begins-now/
[07:50] <Error404NotFoun1> im in minnesota
[07:50] <Error404NotFoun1> no service here yet
[07:51] <bioterror> minnesota maple leafs!
[07:52] <seidos> there must be someone within 5 miles cool enough to play with
[07:52] <seidos> i'm going to check the community college
[07:52] <seidos> you check the coffee shops
[07:52] <seidos> hint:  coffee shops are harder
[07:55] <Error404NotFoun1> wtf is minnesota maple leafs
[07:55] <bioterror> ice hockey team!
[07:55] <Error404NotFoun1> thats toronto
[07:55] <Error404NotFoun1> canada
[07:56] <bioterror> actually it's north stars ;)
[07:56] <Error404NotFoun1> minnesota's nhl team is the wild
[07:56] <Error404NotFoun1> northstars left minnesota for dallas in like 1993
[08:00] <Error404NotFoun1> ooh i think psn is up
[08:03] <Error404NotFoun1> yay
[08:06] <Error404NotFoun1> 24 damn days to restore psn...
[08:32] <Scramble> How to set up a logitech quick cam, please?
[08:32] <MrChrisDruif> Plug in > Work?
[08:33] <Scramble> No, just sitting on the table, no response.
[08:35] <Scramble> Plugged in the quick cam, but it does not respond.
[08:35] <Scramble> using Ubuntu 10.04
[13:39] <tdn> I have just installed kubuntu 11.04, when I start up, it says: error: no video mode activated. So nothing happens. I beleive it is already in grub it fails.
[13:39] <stlsaint> tdn: google ;) (i have no idea on the workings of kubuntu sorry)
[13:42] <tdn> stlsaint, I have tried googling.
[13:43] <tdn> I do not beleive this is kubuntu specific
[13:43] <tdn> it could be ubuntu as well
[13:45] <stlsaint> tdn: have you looked at xorg?
[13:45] <tdn> No. It does not even come out of grub.
[13:46] <tdn> So X is not the problem.
[13:46] <stlsaint> tdn: well it has to leave grub to be able to show you that error so it very well could be x
[13:46] <coalwater> try getting on recovery mode then the fail save gui
[13:46] <coalwater> fail safe*
[13:46] <coalwater> i think :D
[13:46] <coalwater> that's what i'd try
[13:47] <tdn> stlsaint, not correct. It could not be X. It does not even have a file system yet.
[13:47] <tdn> coalwater, I tried. Then what?
[13:47] <coalwater> does it start?
[13:47] <stlsaint> tdn: no file system?? So did you install or not?
[13:48] <stlsaint> that doesnt make sense, a file system has nothing to do with video
[13:54] <tdn> stlsaint, as I said, this is already in grub it fails. That is before a filesystem is mounted and thus WAY before X.
[13:55] <tdn> coalwater, it starts to a terminal.
[13:56] <tdn> coalwater, did not try failsafe X yet. I am trying. But nonetheless, the recovery mode gets past GRUB/bootsplash, so  I get rootfs mounted and stuff
[13:56] <coalwater> u have a shell terminal now?
[13:56] <coalwater> hold on
[13:56] <tdn> I am guessing the viedeo error has something to do with it trying to start up a fancy video mode during boot.
[13:57] <tdn> coalwater, yes.
[13:57] <coalwater> how do u get on a shell without grub
[13:57] <tdn> huh?
[13:57] <tdn> coalwater, I have GRUB.
[13:57] <tdn> It just does not get PAST it.
[13:57] <coalwater> ok , so ur on grub rescue?
[13:57] <tdn> coalwater, or maybe it is JUST past it. But before fs is mounted.
[13:58] <tdn> somewhere between POST and root fs mount, it fails.
[13:58] <tdn> coalwater, I have root shell now.
[13:58] <coalwater> but no file system
[13:58] <tdn> vo
[13:58] <tdn> coalwater, yes. Of course.
[13:58] <Sidewinder1> tdn: Have you tried to boot to LiveCD and look around in the Grub/config files from there?
[13:58] <tdn> I do not get the error when selecting recovery mode.
[13:58] <tdn> coalwater, sorry if that was not clear.
[13:59] <stlsaint> im not understanding the terminology being used here
[13:59] <tdn> Sidewinder1, no, but I can boot up in recovery mode and browse file system there.
[13:59] <stlsaint> i will step out now
[14:00] <coalwater> if it's a fresh install i'd just try to reinstall again, if u don't have any data to worry about
[14:01] <tdn> coalwater, actually I kinda did. The first time I just upgraded from 10.10 and got the error. Then I thougt that I
[14:02] <tdn> coalwater, actually I kinda did. The first time I just upgraded from 10.10 and got the error. Then I thougt that the upgrade had somehow failed, so I reinstalled from a clean install cd. But still the same error.
[14:04] <tdn> Maybe it is the splash screen that fails.
[14:04] <tdn> It uses video mdoe I think
[14:04] <coalwater> did u try 'startx'
[14:04] <tdn> Wow. If I remove: quiet splash from grub config, it gets further.
[14:05] <tdn> Appearently that fixed it.
[14:05] <tdn> So maybe it uses a bad VBE mode by default?
[16:12] <mang0> Hm. I need to get my tablet working in ubuntu
[16:12] <bodhizazen> what tablet ?
[16:14] <Sidewinder1> bodhizazen, Well, greetings and felicitations; it's nice to see you here.
[16:14] <bodhizazen> 'Lo Sidewinder1
[16:14] <bodhizazen> I am going to *try* to be more active with the theam
[16:14] <bodhizazen> + shamelessly promoting my Remix =)
[16:15] <bodhizazen> Zenix 2.0
[16:15] <Sidewinder1> bodhizazen, With the time you're not on the forums; that'll be a good trick. :-)
[16:16] <Sidewinder1> bodhizazen, How is Kiwi? In hosp and all. Hope he's OH.
[16:16] <Sidewinder1> OK
[16:17] <bodhizazen> Havae not had a more recent update other then he is home
[16:17] <Sidewinder1> Good to hear. He and I don't always agree but he is a most valued member.
[16:19] <Sidewinder1> I wouldn't ordinarily chit-chat on this channel, but as you can see it's rather slow today. :-)
[16:19] <mang0> bodhizazen: sorry, was afk. I've got a UC-LOGIC WP5540U
[16:19] <mang0> I know it works, cuz I saw a post with someone saying they had the same one, and it worked...
[16:20] <mang0> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1610423
[16:22] <mang0> I think I need wizardpen or something, but I don't think it exists for natty
[16:22] <mang0> :/
[16:24]  * bodhizazen looks
[16:25] <bodhizazen> mang0, gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:25] <bodhizazen> That file will likely be empty / blank
[16:25] <bodhizazen> Add the lines from that thread
[16:25] <bodhizazen> save changes
[16:25] <bodhizazen> log out and back in
[16:37] <cprofitt> what tablet was it...
[16:37] <cprofitt> I was discon for a while
[16:42] <mang0> cprofitt: uc logic wp5540u
[16:43] <braiam> mang0: «sudo X -configure» generate a the xorg.conf adapted to your hardware
[16:44] <braiam> leaving the option to modify securely
[16:44] <mang0> urm
[16:46] <mang0> braiam: http://pastebin.com/4tW1TT1P
[16:46] <mang0> :/
[16:47] <mang0> I can't do anything to it :S
[16:51] <braiam> mang0: is intended to be used when you don't have X at all
[16:51] <mang0> ah.
[16:52] <mang0> So how do I move in and outta X?
[16:52] <mang0> braiam: ^
[16:55] <braiam> mang0: xkill -all
[16:56] <braiam> mang0: be sure you can access to tty
[16:56] <braiam> Ctrl + Alt + [F1-F6]
[16:56] <mang0> tty?
[16:57] <mang0> when it says "ubuntu login"
[16:57] <mang0> I put in my ubuntu username right? then the password...
[16:57] <braiam> mang0: it's like a terminal, where you can login
[16:58] <mang0> got it
[16:58] <braiam> a separate session
[16:58] <mang0> but
[16:58] <mang0> "sudo X-configure"
[16:58] <mang0> apparantly there is no such command
[16:59] <mang0> braiam: ^
[16:59] <braiam> «sudo X -configure» note the space between X and «-»
[16:59] <mang0> aha
[16:59] <mang0> k
[16:59]  * mang0 tries again
[17:00] <mang0> O.o braiam it has exactly the same messages as I pastebinned to you...
[17:00] <braiam> mang0: you killed the X server?
[17:01] <mang0> urm
[17:01] <mang0> I just press ctrl + alt + f1
[17:01] <mang0> pressed*
[17:01] <mang0> do I need to xkill all
[17:01] <mang0> xkill -all*
[17:02] <braiam> or «sudo killall X»
[17:03] <mang0> okay
[17:03] <mang0> right, be back soon (I hope!)
[17:06] <mang0> braiam: this isn't working :(
[17:07] <braiam> mang0: paste «ps ax»
[17:08] <mang0> sure
[17:08] <mang0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/607877/
[17:08] <mang0> braiam: ^
[17:10] <braiam> «sudo services gdm stop»
[17:10] <braiam> service*
[17:10] <braiam> mang0: ^
[17:11] <mang0> okay...
[17:12] <mang0> braiam: command not found....
[17:13] <braiam> mang0: i'm supposing that you are running ubuntu... what are you running?
[17:15] <braiam> mang0: ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu...?
[17:16] <mang0> ubuntu 11.04 natty narwhale
[17:19] <braiam> so... you run «sudo service gdm stop» and don't works?
[17:19] <braiam> mang0: ^
[17:27] <mang0> braiam: If I run that it tells me "sudo service command not found"
[17:27] <mang0> or something along those lines
[17:30] <braiam> mang0: this will force the X to stop «sudo kill 9 1289» so it's a unclean exit
[17:30] <mang0> :/
[17:31] <mang0> so.  I mean, if I shut all the windows I can see then there are still open things arnt there...
[17:49] <braiam> changing to the tty and killing all X server
[19:12] <nit-wit> bodhi_zazen, are you on
[19:13] <bodhi_zazen> yes
[19:13] <bodhi_zazen> zup ?
[19:13] <nit-wit> can I private with you
[19:13] <bodhi_zazen> yes
[21:45] <kristian-t40> hi all
[21:46]  * kristian-t40 just got irssi, playing around with it
[21:54] <coalwater> hi kristian-t40
[23:07] <villamil> Hello, does anyone know how to fix problems with the sound?  I just did the full Ubuntu installation, and wanted to hear some Gnome tutorials, but I noticed there is no sound in my computer.
[23:08] <MrChrisDruif> !sound | villamil
[23:08] <ubot2> villamil: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.
[23:09] <villamil> let me try some of that
[23:13] <villamil> Okay, it's not the volume... which is good, and I have no idea about hardware, input or output options, so I'll check out the documentation.
[23:13] <villamil> By the way, If I want to get help as !sound, where should I type that?
[23:24] <MrChrisDruif> villamil; You want to learn how to command the bot?
[23:25] <villamil> yes, I am really new in this.  is that like a terminal?
[23:25] <villamil> or is that like alt+f2?
[23:26] <[styx]> no
[23:26] <[styx]> a bot is like a person
[23:26] <[styx]> but in irc
[23:26] <[styx]> you do commands and it talks back
[23:26] <[styx]> like what happened after you asked you question
[23:27] <[styx]> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat#Bots
[23:27] <[styx]> scrooll to the bots section
[23:31] <villamil> so ubot2 is the machine talking back to me...
[23:32] <villamil> !sound
[23:32] <ubot2> If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.
[23:36] <[styx]> yes
[23:36] <[styx]> very convient for frequently asked questions
[23:36] <[styx]> and some bots help moderate big chennels
[23:37] <[styx]> like auto kick ban when if you spam
[23:37] <grover78> hey everyone
[23:38] <grover78> what's the command for the ubuntu "secret update" or whatever its called?
[23:41] <MrChrisDruif> villamil; so don't use it in vain, we don't like spam :P
[23:41] <MrChrisDruif> grover78; secret update?
[23:42] <grover78> not sure exactly what its called.... some sort of "extra update" for 11.04. I'm new at this, I had ubunto installed but I had to do a wipe and re-install so I'm trying to get everything back
[23:44] <grover78> its supposed to help with extra drivers or something???
[23:45] <[styx]> you mean the one that lets you play .mp3s and stuff?
[23:45] <grover78> yeah I think so
[23:45] <MrChrisDruif> ubuntu-restricted-extras you mean?
[23:45] <grover78> yeah thats the one
[23:46] <MrChrisDruif> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras in terminal should do the trick
[23:46] <grover78> lol maybe I should change my nick to "ubuntu_noob" lol
[23:46] <[styx]> lol
[23:46] <[styx]> im noob too
[23:46] <[styx]> dont worry
[23:47] <grover78> I'm so used to WinXP so this is pretty different by comparason
[23:47] <MrChrisDruif> Indeed, it's what your used to....
[23:48] <MrChrisDruif> I'm used to Ubuntu's "ease" nowadays
[23:48] <[styx]> hmmh
[23:49] <grover78> I'm gonna use ubunto for now but I want to find soemthing even lighter on my computer. Its pretty old hardware wise, so the less resources used the better
[23:50] <[styx]> isnt there a clod based distro?
[23:50] <[styx]> based on linux?
[23:50] <[styx]> thats really light?
[23:50] <grover78> not sure. I've heard of "puppy" that's supposed to be light
[23:55] <[styx]> AH


[02:31] <PiperPPR> Donald Trump versus the New World Order - 1 of 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAOcccVmaYE
[02:35] <xubuntu62w> i have a problem with the software because i cant run some things like the store app and other apps of the libre office
[02:36] <xubuntu62w> i don't know if the problem are on my lap top or in the software or on the compatibility
[02:38] <xubuntu62w> in the last version down of 14 i never had this problem please i need a help
[06:39] <sorinello_> Hello. Does Xubuntu comes with some tool to create bootable USB stick with .. Xubuntu ? :)
[06:40] <ObrienDave> install unetbootin
[06:43] <ObrienDave> use that to create a bootable USB stick. add up to 10GB 'persistance' so you can save files to the stick
[06:46] <sorinello_> thanks ObrienDave, I'll try it soom. The UI looks pretty ugly, seems I am missing mtools package also
[06:47] <sorinello_> but the final goal is to have a working USB stick
[06:47] <ObrienDave> it's not pretty, but it works
[06:51] <flocculant> didn't work for me - used the ubuntu tool and/or gnome disks
[06:54] <sorinello_> flocculant, ubuntu tool ?
[06:56] <sorinello_> brb
[07:07] <flocculant> sorinello: usb creator
[07:14] <sorinello_> flocculant, any Idea how can I get rid of this ? N: Ignoring file '20auto-upgrades.ucf-old' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[07:14] <sorinello_> is deleting the file ok ?
[07:14] <flocculant> I did :)
[07:14] <flocculant> not sure where it came from - but I just deleted it
[07:17] <flocculant> sorinello_: though I did have a properly named version as well
[07:19] <sorinello_> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root   80 Apr 29 23:11 20auto-upgrades
[07:19] <sorinello_> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  168 Oct 14 09:43 20auto-upgrades.ucf-old
[07:19] <sorinello_> I have one too :)
[07:19] <flocculant> k - delete it
[07:20] <sorinello_> flocculant, all good now, thanks
[07:20] <flocculant> welcome
[09:38] <Fernando-Basso> http://askubuntu.com/questions/768569/ubuntu-16-04-update-manager-error/784977 Should people proceed like described in the accepted answer before upgrading to a new release?
[09:59] <akxwi-dave> Normally the upgrade process will disable them.. but to be on the safe disabling the ppa's wont hurt anyting..
[10:12] <Fernando-Basso> akxwi-dave: And when I disable the ppa's, then I have to 'remove' the keys manually as well, I assume?
[10:13] <Fernando-Basso> The guy said "You obviously did a system upgrade without having removed the external repositories before." That was mean. I have never seen in any piece of docs that we should do that manually.
[10:19] <akxwi-dave> very true... it was mean.. I have never had to manually remove them either..  but looking at that article it appears to be due to a specific  ppa..  the upgrade process normally disable them and lets you add them back in later
[10:20] <Fernando-Basso> akxwi-dave: Thanks.
[10:20] <akxwi-dave>  :-)
[10:22] <Fernando-Basso> I found that question when I did the upgrad to 16.04 (I had a similar problem, with vbox, if I am not mistaken). Since this is a working machine, I am afraid of wasting time with something that could be easily avoided.
[10:22] <Fernando-Basso> Anyway, thanks once more.
[11:56] <dadore> Point me in a direction please
[11:57] <knome> -->
[11:57] <knome> there you go
[11:58] <dadore> clean load of 16.10 - nvidia 9800 video card - tried 2 different proprietery drivers and the xorg nvidia driver - same results.  when locking the system and coming back to it, screen is black, sometimes with a mouse pointer.  can not ctrl-alt-f3, f4, etc.. black screen too.. have to reboot  .  what should I look at?
[11:59] <dadore> --->  going that way.. ty
[13:47] <xubuntu56w> How can I view (with a HDMI cable) my desktop on an external monitor AND at the same time on the internal monitor of my laptop?
[13:49] <SuperSeriousCat> xubuntu56w, settings -> hardware -> display
[13:50] <xubuntu56w> Yes, and then I see only the desktop on the external one
[15:35] <somedude23> Hey, can someone help me upgrade to xubuntu 16.10?
[15:35] <somedude23> "sudo do-release-upgrade" or "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" both result in No new releases found...
[15:36] <flocculant> somedude23: you need to set upgrade to look for normal releases
[15:36] <flocculant> at least I assume you are trying to upgrade from 16.04 to 16.10 for some reason?
[15:37] <somedude23> yes, I'm on 16.04
[15:38] <flocculant> http://docs.xubuntu.org/1610/user/C/managing-applications.html#update-configuration
[15:38] <flocculant> somedude23: you do know that 16.04 is supported for 3 years and 16.10 for 9 months I trust
[15:39] <flocculant> and that to undo the upgrade you'll have to reinstall 16.04
[15:39] <somedude23> flocculant: reason to upgrade: cryptsetup 1.6.6 => cryptsetup 1.7.2
[15:39] <flocculant> and that you'll have to go 16.10 > 17.04 > 17.10 > 18.04 :)
[15:39] <somedude23> and this used to be a non-LTS installation that updated itself to LTS for some reason
[15:39] <flocculant> yep - ok - just making sure you'll not come back in 8 months upset and all that :p
[15:40] <somedude23> nah, this PC is scheduled for format anyway...
[15:40] <flocculant> anyway - set it to look for any new version and try again :)
[15:42] <somedude23> ah, found it. stupid obscure options :)
[15:43] <flocculant> :)
[15:44] <somedude23> bleh
[15:44] <somedude23> The upgrade has aborted. The upgrade needs a total of 108 M free space on disk '/boot'.
[15:45] <somedude23> should have created a 512MB /boot instead of 256M
[15:46] <flocculant> somedude23: clear out old kernels - you only need 1 :)
[15:47] <somedude23> looks like I have 2
[15:47] <somedude23> I'll clear out linux-image-4.4.0-38-generic
[15:53] <somedude23> alright, downloading update... might take a while.
[16:10] <yawoodentbuleev> Hello all
[16:11] <yawoodentbuleev> I just ran into an unusual issue with hybrid graphics, similar to what I've seen all around, but not quite the same
[16:11] <yawoodentbuleev> xrandr is listing my discreet card twice...
[16:11] <yawoodentbuleev> discrete*
[16:13] <yawoodentbuleev> thomas@shabahey:~$ xrandr --listproviders Providers: number : 3 Provider 0: id: 0x6d cap: 0x9, Source Output, Sink Offload crtcs: 3 outputs: 5 associated providers: 2 name:Intel Provider 1: id: 0x45 cap: 0x6, Sink Output, Source Offload crtcs: 6 outputs: 0 associated providers: 2 name:TURKS @ pci:0000:01:00.0 Provider 2: id: 0x45 cap: 0x6, Sink Output, Source Offload crtcs: 6 outputs: 0 associated providers: 2 name:TURKS @ p
[16:14] <yawoodentbuleev> ah, new my newlines would get eaten
[16:14] <yawoodentbuleev> Provider 0: id: 0x6d cap: 0x9, Source Output, Sink Offload crtcs: 3 outputs: 5 associated providers: 2 name:Intel
[16:14] <yawoodentbuleev> Provider 1: id: 0x45 cap: 0x6, Sink Output, Source Offload crtcs: 6 outputs: 0 associated providers: 2 name:TURKS @ pci:0000:01:00.0
[16:14] <yawoodentbuleev> Provider 2: id: 0x45 cap: 0x6, Sink Output, Source Offload crtcs: 6 outputs: 0 associated providers: 2 name:TURKS @ pci:0000:01:00.0
[16:15] <yawoodentbuleev> thomas@shabahey:~$ xrandr --setprovideroffloadsink TURKS Intel
[16:15] <yawoodentbuleev> Could not find provider with name TURKS
[16:17] <yawoodentbuleev> And here's what the card looks like to lspci:
[16:17] <yawoodentbuleev> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Whistler [Radeon HD 6730M/6770M/7690M XT] (rev ff) (prog-if ff) 	!!! Unknown header type 7f 	Kernel driver in use: radeon 	Kernel modules: radeon
[16:21] <yawoodentbuleev> Using the common test "DRI_PRIME=1 glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer" yields a seemingly good result, however I'm unable to launch applications with DRI_PRIME=1
[23:09] <redblade> hi
[23:09] <redblade> i upgraded from xenial to yakkety last night
[23:10] <redblade> occasionally i am having all kinds of chaos with this error message:
[23:10] <redblade> "Failed to determine seats for user 1000: too many open files"
[23:10] <redblade> (reading this off the top of my memory as i'm using another computer)
[23:10] <redblade> i'm guessing user 1000 refers to the uid
[23:11] <redblade> but is anyone else having this problem after an upgrade to yakkety, and how to fix it?
[23:11] <redblade> also, a program with a name like "dbus-menu" uses 100%
[23:11] <redblade> cpu
[23:12] <redblade> "dbus-daemon"
[23:16] <Pwnna> does anyone here know what rpcbind is for?
[23:16] <Pwnna> why does it hold an open port (111) on my computer?
[23:17] <Pwnna> is it because i have nfs installed?