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[10:08] <tjaalton> new intel release
[15:46] <mdeslaur> man, I hadn't updated my trusty laptop in a week or so
[15:46] <mdeslaur> are the massive graphical corruption issues with intel known at the moment?
[15:47] <mlankhorst> mdeslaur: yeah in fact
[15:47] <tjaalton> upgrade
[15:47] <tjaalton> .910 fixes it
[15:47] <tjaalton> uploaded earlier today
[15:47] <mdeslaur> ah, great, thank mlankhorst, tjaalton
[15:48] <mdeslaur> good thing I didn't gouge my eyes out with a fork after all


[09:58] <thorwil> kwwii: http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/tourismussteuer102.html
[10:29] <darkmatter> http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/7376/screenshotdb.png bahhhh......
[10:44] <thorwil> darkmatter: it seems all so limited to a small green-grey color range. depressive
[10:46] <darkmatter> thorwil: nah. I'm changing it (lots of pixmaps, new colors :P). just testing layouts for apps
[11:02] <vish> darkmatter: though an etched in look for the buttons look nice , how is it that a button can be etched in and be pressed ? ;p
[11:04] <darkmatter> vish: where wut huh?
[11:04] <vish> darkmatter: the toolbar icons..
[11:05] <darkmatter> oh.lol. those are only temporary you nab :P
[11:06] <darkmatter> teh theme will have it's own eventually. atm I just ripped them from elsewhere. colored blobs are too distracting ;)
[11:52] <vish> darkmatter: i dont mind the lack of color , infact i think i showed you a mockup earlier with monochrome icons on toolbar , what would be cool is if  the buttons came flush to the surface or popped up when we hover over them
[11:53] <darkmatter> vish: aye. I'm working on a spec for my project I call "popups" for fun. it's all about the graphical representation of icons and related images
[11:54] <darkmatter> vish: I actually "like" monochrome for the most part. even the theme will stay generally level in that regard, just blingy ;o
[11:57] <darkmatter> vish: basically the spec is for desaturated/mono versions of icons, flush or nearly so (dependin on where in the ui) they colorize and "popup" to a slightly floating state when interacted with (or when speaking). basically. I'll be fine tuning it for the various parts of the ui
[11:57] <vish> cool!
[11:57] <darkmatter> _if_ I can pull it off with smexy rendering magic instead of multiple icons, then I will
[11:58] <darkmatter> vish: I want another state in dropbox. thinking of the spec made me realize we need an "update" notification that doesn't involve libnotify ;o
[12:00] <darkmatter> vish: I think the colorized/mono transitions would be a nice and distinct compromise. I find pure mono/technicolor unbearable. both make it a pain to notice stuff
[12:00] <vish> darkmatter: yeah , i'v noticed that in several places , it works pretty well , [on hover the icon gains color]
[12:01] <vish> darkmatter: now , we just need to make them[-shell folks] realize it ;)
[12:02] <darkmatter> aye
[12:05] <darkmatter> bbiab. walk time
[17:41] <thorwil> color theory: http://chzsomuchpun.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/ec2afff5-ea33-44d4-b714-64fac2f92380.jpg


[15:17] <wsfulton> Hello. In this interview http://news.softpedia.com/news/Mark-Shuttleworth-Interview-for-Ubuntu-12-10-270687.shtml Mark Shuttleworth mentioned helping upstream developers with QA. It wasn't clear to me exactly what this was. My question is where to find more information on this. I'm particularly interested to know if this includes access to servers providing a continuous integration environment for packages shipped on Ubuntu.


[00:36] <ubotu> New bug: #186249 in launchpad "[internet explorer 7- windows xp] when i click on the arrow next to my package name in PPA it does not expand it." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186249
[00:59] <seabeast> timeouts D:
[04:10] <Aloha> how do you make a project a "super project" so you can odd other projects to it?
[04:10] <Aloha> s/odd/add/
[04:16] <Odd_Bloke> Aloha: I believe you have to request the admins do it, via Answers.
[04:16] <Aloha> wow, thats really counter productive
[06:09] <Aloha> how do you add people as admins in your group on #launchpad?
[06:09] <Aloha> er
[06:09] <Aloha> i mean launchpad.net
[06:13] <Hobbsee> Aloha: they're selected.
[06:13] <Hobbsee> Aloha: and known to be credible people
[06:14] <Aloha> i mean functionally on my own team on launchpad.net
[06:14] <Hobbsee> oh
[06:14] <Hobbsee> add the user, and hit the administrator: yes button at the same time?
[06:14] <Hobbsee> otherwise edit the user from +members
[06:14] <Aloha> thnx
[06:15] <Aloha> Hobbsee, you're a very helpful person in general
[06:21] <Aloha> Hobbsee, http://baratijas.awardspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/hobbseenewer.jpg is that you?
[06:22] <Hobbsee> Aloha: er, how is that there?
[06:22] <Aloha> Hobbsee, http://baratijas.awardspace.com/archivos/primera-desarrolladora-del-core-de-ubuntu/
[06:23]  * Hobbsee blinks
[06:24]  * Hobbsee wonders what that says
[06:24] <Hobbsee> oh, interesting
[06:24] <Hobbsee> Aloha: yes it is
[06:33] <Aloha> Hobbsee, congratz
[06:33] <Hobbsee> Aloha: thanks
[06:33] <Aloha> little belated heh
[06:38] <Aloha> how do you add a team to a team?
[06:38] <Aloha> change the owner to that team or is there another way?
[06:39] <Hobbsee> add a team like you add a member
[06:41] <Aloha> Hobbsee, thnx again
[06:47] <Aloha> what do you do if the team owner quits?
[06:48] <Hobbsee> ask a LP admin if you can become the member of the team
[06:48] <Aloha> Hobbsee, thnx
[06:49] <Aloha> are questions better asked on the launchpad-mailing list or the launchpad site itself, or both? any preferred method?
[06:50] <Hobbsee> both
[06:50] <Aloha> cool
[06:50] <Hobbsee> lp site is better, as it has a searchable question list
[06:50] <Aloha> i seem to get more rapid response on the mailing list
[06:51] <Aloha> but the site is helpful if im looking to see if a question has already been asked
[08:05] <ubotu> New bug: #186287 in launchpad-bazaar "can't push/branch/pull over bzr+ssh://" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186287
[10:13] <charlessss> develope this shit mang
[10:13] <charlessss> http://en.naughtyholiday.com/?id=ccd96c2a9da025e729843fc43b9bfec8
[10:31] <Iulian> Weird guy...
[10:31] <Hobbsee> strange, yes...
[11:37] <Hobbsee> !ping
[11:37] <ubotu> ping: unknown host
[13:08] <andrea-bs> hi, can you confirm this bug? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/186334
[13:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 186334 in launchpad "Cannot view who voted in a pool" [Undecided,New]
[13:16] <ubotu> New bug: #186334 in launchpad "Cannot view who voted in a pool" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186334
[17:29] <ScislaC> hey all, how do I link to another bug tracker from launchpad... I've seen that this is a feature, but haven't found where to do it.
[19:33] <mpt> Hobbsee, w.r.t. "no, you can't see the queue - a UI to see it does not exist" - is that reported as a bug? I can't tell whether any of the existing bug reports are relevant.
[19:37] <kiko-afk> mpt, I don't think it's reported though there may be a blueprint registered.
[19:37] <mpt> Yay for having two separate trackers for things
[19:39] <mpt> This one looks related <https://blueprints.launchpad.net/soyuz/+spec/build-ui-improvements>
[20:03] <don_> Hi is anybody in here (reading). I have a question about launchpad-translations
[20:20] <abentley> Someone has filed a bug against bzrtools that I think actually applies to gutsy-backports.  The problem is that bzr is updated in gutsy-backports, but bzrtools isn't, and this means that bzrtools cannot be installed.
[20:20] <abentley> Where should the bug actually be filed?
[20:21] <kiko-afk> you should say: also affects distribution
[20:21] <kiko-afk> and leave it to the ubuntu guys
[20:26] <abentley> kiko-afk: thx
[20:34] <Fujitsu> abentley: Actually, in that case the correct thing to do is to add a task against the gutsy-backports project.
[20:34] <don_> why are some translation with the flag "need review" not reviewable? hm..
[20:34] <Fujitsu> Because Launchpad doesn't handle our three cases of possible fix-backportings well.
[20:35] <abentley> Fujitsu: A task?  Where are those manipulated?
[20:35] <Fujitsu> abentley: Sorry, `Also affects... Project'
[20:36] <Fujitsu> Each line you see in the table at the top of the page is a bug task.
[20:36] <abentley> Ah.  Haven't grokked the data model yet.
[20:38] <abentley> Thanx
[20:40] <Fujitsu> Hmm, are bug RSS feeds meant to show distro tasks with a milestone icon rather than the normal one?
[21:02] <Syntux> does this error "OOPS-757F2644" sound like a normal bad hair day? or should I contact someone to save people of Hurricane?
[21:02] <ubotu> https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/757F2644
[21:06]  * thumper looks
[21:07] <thumper> Syntux: the timeout will have been logged, and will be looked at by the appropriate developer
[21:07] <thumper> Syntux: it doesn't look especially special
[21:07] <thumper> Syntux: try again?
[21:08] <Syntux> Just the same, not able to resume translating.
[21:08] <mpt> Fujitsu, you've just polluted abentley's mind :-P
[21:09] <Syntux> Okie, it's back now
[21:13] <Fujitsu> mpt: Er?
[21:14] <mpt> tasks are an implementation detail
[21:14] <Fujitsu> One needs to know of their existence to make sense of the UI.
[21:15] <mpt> why?
[21:16] <Fujitsu> Um, well... good question.
[21:17] <mpt> I know the "Also affects..." links are a bit awkward, ye olde bug 1334
[21:17] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 1334 in malone ""Also affects:" "Project…" and "Distribution/Package…" links should be merged" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1334 - Assigned to Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt)
[21:17] <Fujitsu> Yep.
[21:17] <mpt> but not so bad as to need to expose the DB schema IMO
[21:19] <Fujitsu> What is the correct phrasing, if not `add a task'? `mark the bug as also affecting'?
[21:20] <mpt> anything like that, sure
[21:20] <mpt> Say the bug also affects X
[21:20] <Fujitsu> OK, will do in future. Sorry.
[21:20] <mpt> np
[23:17] <superted> does anyone know if there will be any regularity to language packs in hardy and if so how often they will be realeased?
[23:39] <mpt> superted, that's a question about Ubuntu, not about Launchpad
[23:40] <mpt> Try in #ubuntu-devel
[23:40] <Fujitsu> Well, it does rely on LP people...
[23:48] <superted> mpt: ok thanks


[00:15] <persia> ka6sox, It appears to be based of 2.6.29
[00:16] <ka6sox> yes, but we haven't been able to determine which tree it came from.
[00:16] <persia> so?
[00:17] <persia> I suppose it reduces the porting effort, but I presume you could sensibly look at the diff against mainline 2.6.29, and try to determine which are porting patches.
[00:17] <persia> All the SoC-specific stuff ought be mainline, so it's really just the platform stuff that is interesting.
[00:18] <ka6sox> ya, its a question of time...but if I could ever get more time I'd have more fun.
[00:18] <persia> Heh.
[00:18] <persia> I don't know enough about kernel internals, but I suspect there's something on the order of 10-12 files that have any content that is Nook-specific, and isn't covered by the OMAP stuff.
[00:19] <persia> And strongly suspect that the porting effort to bring those files to 2.6.38 is unlikely to be heroic.
[00:20] <persia> (although I wouldn't expect the result to be as seamless as the current kernel: there's surely some extra hackery present, but those are fixable bugs: the above ought get one booting)
[08:26] <lilstevie> I am having issues with framebuffer setup
[08:26] <lilstevie> not getting any output on screen once GDM starts
[12:59] <rsalveti> janimo: it's hard to have both gl and gles support at Qt
[12:59] <rsalveti> even if we split in two packages, I don't think it'll be easier to maintain
[12:59] <rsalveti> qt takes 1 day to build, and it's huge
[13:04] <ogra> root@ac100:/# apt-get -f install
[13:04] <ogra> Segmentation fault
[13:04] <ogra> grrr
[13:06] <rsalveti> haha :-)
[13:06] <rsalveti> not good
[13:06] <ogra> i guess i'll have to reboot
[13:06] <ogra> nope, not good
[13:06] <rsalveti> good luck
[13:06] <ogra> natty chroot though
[13:06] <rsalveti> oh, ok
[13:06] <ogra> not my main rootfs
[13:39] <janimo> rsalveti, yes, probably more weork than worth it with qt split
[14:06] <berco> ogra: persia: fyi, alsa-lib v1.0.24 with UCM support is now out
[14:07] <berco> still lacking the specific config files for OMAP4 boards
[14:36] <ogra> berco, yeah, we hard that already, i guess luke waits with the upload until after the freeze
[14:37] <ogra> *heard
[14:37] <berco> ogra: let us know how it goes and if you face issues
[14:38] <ogra> will do
[15:33] <ogra> root@ac100:/# apt-get -f install
[15:33] <ogra> Segmentation fault
[15:33] <ogra> hmm, so reboot didnt help
[15:33] <ogra> thats bad
[15:37] <armin76> you broke it :D
[15:40] <ogra> armin76, i wish i did
[15:40] <ogra> then i would know whats wrong
[16:08]  * ogra sighs
[16:08] <ogra> is anyone running a maverick rootfs with natty chroots ?
[16:08] <ogra> (both armel)
[16:09] <rcn-ee_at_work> ogra, squeeze rootfs with natty chroot... or do you think it's a maverick->natty issue?
[16:10] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: up already?
[16:11] <ogra> rcn-ee_at_work, well, i think its a HW issue but i dont get such behavior with maverick->maverick-chroot
[16:12] <GrueMaster> Been up for an hour.
[16:12] <ogra> GrueMaster, really ?
[16:12] <GrueMaster> Still working on coffee infusion.
[16:12] <ogra> GrueMaster, the question is why :)
[16:13] <GrueMaster> puppy walking on bladder - bad combo.
[16:15] <GrueMaster> I'm getting a little miffed at the XM dev's.  No updated documentation since rev A2 available (A3 broke DVI for us), I have a Rev B and no idea what changes have been made, and they are talking about some change to USB on Rev C.
[16:16] <ogra> GrueMaster, i thought rsalveti just added a fix for the broken DVI
[16:16] <ogra> (or reworked a broken one from koen)
[16:17] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: A3 should be the same as B
[16:17] <rsalveti> only chip rev that changed
[16:17] <GrueMaster> And this is documented...where?
[16:17] <rsalveti> and our latest kernel deb should be fine with it
[16:17] <ogra> ricardos head ;)
[16:17] <rsalveti> beagle m-l probably
[16:17] <ogra> just print a pdf from it ;)
[16:18] <rsalveti> yeah :-)
[16:18] <GrueMaster> ogra: The interface is broken.  :P
[16:18] <ogra> file a bug
[16:18] <rsalveti> :P
[16:20] <GrueMaster> At any rate, it is frustrating when software doesn't work as documented, and you don't know the hardware changes that could have affected it.
[16:21] <ogra> welcome to the world of developer hardware
[16:23] <rsalveti> GrueMaster: http://beagleboard.org/hardware/design
[16:23] <rsalveti> Only Rev B change is processor revision
[16:23] <GrueMaster> Interesting.  I would not have found that link going through the main pages.
[16:24] <rsalveti> beagleboard.org -> product details -> Design Materials
[16:26] <GrueMaster> True, but the layout suggests that is for the original beagle only.  Clicking on beagleboard.org>hardware shows a separate link for the XM at the top of the page, which only leads to the old documentation.
[16:26] <GrueMaster> But thanks for pointing that out.
[16:27] <GrueMaster> Pad web page layout.
[16:28] <GrueMaster> s/Pad/bad
[16:30] <rsalveti> yeah, the layout is not that nice
[16:31] <rcn-ee_at_work> there's a git tree for the beagleboard.org layout somewhere.  ;)
[16:31] <rcn-ee_at_work> GrueMaster, under static.. ;) http://www.beagleboard.org/gitweb/?p=beagleboard.org.git;a=tree
[16:44] <GrueMaster> Erm, yea.  I'm looking at this and thinking WTF.  Looks interesting and cool.  If/when I get time to learn yet another development environment, I might submit some changes.  In the meantime, is there a bug tracker to file bugs against the web page?  :P
[16:52] <rcn-ee_at_work> GrueMaster, best to just pink jkridner he does a lot of the web changes..
[16:52] <GrueMaster> ok
[21:41] <sinclair> hi everyone
[21:42] <sinclair> my erlang is segfaulting... and i don't know why =)
[23:11] <Kamondelious> persia, turns out it was bad wiring on the connection between USB wifi dongle and the USB hub, the dongle works fine, just need to fix my wiring.


[08:27] <nomicon> I'm trying to install a .deb that has '/lib32' as a folder inside the .deb. This folder will not be created when installed with 'dpkg -i'
[08:29] <nomicon> This is on dpkg 1.22.6 on Ubuntu 24.04 Beta.  On 23.04 this works fine. Is  '/lib32' blacklisted from behing created by dpkg since usr-mrg ?
[08:49] <nomicon> I suspect the dpkg is not allowing /lib32, and a few others to be created. But where can I find some references for my suspicion?


[01:49] <mup> Bug #1456329 opened: Add UEFI ARM64 support to MAAS <hs-arm64> <MAAS:Fix Committed by newell-jensen> <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1456329>
[01:52] <mup> Bug #1456329 changed: Add UEFI ARM64 support to MAAS <hs-arm64> <MAAS:Fix Committed by newell-jensen> <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1456329>
[01:58] <mup> Bug #1456329 opened: Add UEFI ARM64 support to MAAS <hs-arm64> <MAAS:Fix Committed by newell-jensen> <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1456329>
[02:01] <mup> Bug #1456329 changed: Add UEFI ARM64 support to MAAS <hs-arm64> <MAAS:Fix Committed by newell-jensen> <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1456329>
[02:07] <mup> Bug #1456329 opened: Add UEFI ARM64 support to MAAS <hs-arm64> <MAAS:Fix Committed by newell-jensen> <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1456329>
[02:10] <mup> Bug #1509147 opened: [SRU] MAAS 1.8.3 <maas (Ubuntu):New> <maas (Ubuntu Trusty):New> <maas (Ubuntu Vivid):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1509147>
[02:16] <mup> Bug #1509147 changed: [SRU] MAAS 1.8.3 <maas (Ubuntu):New> <maas (Ubuntu Trusty):New> <maas (Ubuntu Vivid):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1509147>
[02:19] <mup> Bug #1509147 opened: [SRU] MAAS 1.8.3 <maas (Ubuntu):New> <maas (Ubuntu Trusty):New> <maas (Ubuntu Vivid):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1509147>
[02:46] <mup> Bug #1509164 opened: Add RAID 10 to support RAID modes <api> <storage> <ui> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1509164>
[03:16] <mup> Bug #1509170 opened: managed network name gone after upgrade from 1.8.3 to 1.9a5 <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1509170>
[03:22] <mup> Bug #1509170 changed: managed network name gone after upgrade from 1.8.3 to 1.9a5 <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1509170>
[03:31] <mup> Bug #1509170 opened: managed network name gone after upgrade from 1.8.3 to 1.9a5 <oil> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1509170>
[03:46] <mup> Bug #1509170 changed: managed network name gone after upgrade from 1.8.3 to 1.9a5 <oil> <MAAS:Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1509170>
[12:15] <mup> Bug #1508746 opened: [developer] Need a manual way to automatically discover virtual interfaces / bridges <MAAS:In Progress by mpontillo> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1508746>
[15:54] <mup> Bug #1508746 changed: [developer] Need a manual way to automatically discover virtual interfaces / bridges <MAAS:Opinion> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1508746>
[15:54] <mup> Bug #1509405 opened: interface_set is missing from the node API <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1509405>
[16:06] <mup> Bug #1509417 opened: can't edit / add storage tags <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1509417>
[18:49] <mup> Bug #1509473 opened: New nodes interfaces doesn't show which interface is the PXE interface <networking> <regression> <ui> <ux> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1509473>
[18:52] <mup> Bug #1509473 changed: New nodes interfaces doesn't show which interface is the PXE interface <networking> <regression> <ui> <ux> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1509473>
[18:55] <mup> Bug #1509473 opened: New nodes interfaces doesn't show which interface is the PXE interface <networking> <regression> <ui> <ux> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1509473>
[19:07] <mup> Bug #1509476 opened: Angular $digest loop issue on node details page <ui> <MAAS:Triaged by blake-rouse> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1509476>
[20:43] <mup> Bug #1509535 opened: LVM creation does not take the whole disk <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1509535>
[20:43] <mup> Bug #1509536 opened: I can create vg0 without having created a partition <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1509536>


[05:49] <Kilos> morning all
[07:17] <Kilos> hi not_found lost again i see
[07:18] <not_found> always
[07:18] <Kilos> hehe
[08:09] <superfly> Hi
[08:12] <Kilos> morning superfly
[08:39] <Kilos> hi space
[08:41] <space> Hello Kilos.
[08:41] <space> What is new?
[08:42] <Kilos> hmm...
[08:42] <Kilos> not much i think, hows things your side space
[08:42] <space> I am here, drunk.
[08:43] <space> Kilos: have you heard something about that my country is going to legalize marijuana?
[08:43] <space> I am interested about how some news from here are read in other parts of the world.
[08:43] <Kilos> your country?
[08:43] <space> Uruguay.
[08:44] <Kilos> marijuana isnt bad as such its the abuse of it thats not too good
[08:45] <Kilos> we have a place where one can buy the medication, theres a whole range of products
[08:47] <Kilos> i actually dont know if the old lady is still alive
[09:03] <Kilos> http://www.420magazine.com/forums/medical-marijuana-facts-information/80421-healing-properties-cannabis-index.html
[09:03] <Kilos> can be healthy for some peeps
[11:37] <Kilos> hi psy Trixar_za
[11:37] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[11:39] <Trixar_za> I think we should visit Uruguay in the near future... for reference >.>
[11:39] <Kilos> hehe
[11:40] <Trixar_za> Oh right, I remember what I wanted to do today
[12:04] <Trixar_za> https://github.com/Trixarian/sakis3g-source
[12:04] <Trixar_za> I added the source code to github now
[12:04] <Trixar_za> :P
[12:21] <Kilos> 29 minut4es ago
[12:21] <Kilos> minutes as well
[13:27] <Kilos> hi Vince-0
[13:31] <Kilos> oh my psychici1t
[13:31] <Kilos> hehe
[13:31] <psychicist> hi Kilos
[13:31] <psychicist> :)
[13:31] <Kilos> your nick got warped
[13:32] <psychicist> yeah
[13:32] <psychicist> I killed it
[13:32] <psychicist> or him rather
[13:32] <psychicist> there can only be one!
[13:32] <Kilos> yeah
[13:32] <confluency> Mystery solved. Also, ouch.
[13:32] <Kilos> what now confluency
[13:33] <confluency> That dude on the list.


[05:10] <Trevinho> muktupavels: this should do the trick https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu-themes/appmenu-theming-shape-fix/+merge/324517
[05:10] <Trevinho> I'm unsure if it would be better instead to keep that in the button mode tho
[05:10] <Trevinho> but I don't like it much
[05:19] <duflu> Trevinho, any thoughts on a non-black top bar?
[05:19] <duflu> I'm not sure if grey could work better
[05:19] <duflu> But it would distinguish Ubuntu better in appearance
[05:26] <Trevinho> muktupavels: this would work though https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24640862/
[05:26] <Trevinho> duflu: you mean GS bar?
[05:27] <Trevinho> duflu: yeah, well... I think I'll consider the GS theming once we know what's the best way to do this, as Jeremy was mentioning that using a gnome-shell css is discouraged, but we can't really avoid I guess
[05:44] <oSoMoN> good Wednesday duflu, Trevinho
[05:44] <Trevinho> hi oSoMoN
[06:22] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN
[06:25] <duflu> Trevinho, I don't understand... are you just saying shell theming != toolkit theming and we'lll do them separately? The former obviously has no work done yet
[06:30] <Trevinho> duflu: yeah, shell theming is different from toolkit one
[06:31] <duflu> Yeah fair enough
[06:31] <Trevinho> duflu: it's still using css, but it uses different classes
[06:31] <Trevinho> it's not gtk afterall
[06:31] <duflu> Yeah
[06:31] <duflu> Which is both a feature and an inconsistency
[07:07] <jbicha> Trevinho: it's the user-themes extension that is discouraged, we already customize the gnome-shell css to use the Ubuntu font
[07:08] <jbicha> it's weird that it's discouraged since it's included in "gnome-shell-extensions" with support in gnome-tweak-tool…
[07:38] <andyrock> goood mooorning
[08:01] <willcooke> morning all
[08:03] <Laney> what's up
[08:04] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:04] <seb128> hey willcooke Laney
[08:04] <duflu> Morning
[08:06] <didrocks> hey andyrock, willcooke, Laney, seb128, duflu
[08:07] <duflu> Salut didrocks
[08:10] <Laney> hey seb128 didrocks duflu
[08:10] <Laney> you good?
[08:10] <didrocks> yeah, first time we skipped the 10:30PM dinner for Matin!
[08:11] <didrocks> was a success, he slept from 9PM to 7:45AM :)
[08:11] <didrocks> Martin*
[08:11]  * duflu assumes Martin is a small person
[08:11] <didrocks> yeah :)
[08:11] <didrocks> and you guys? how are you?
[08:12] <duflu> Yeah good thanks Laney, didrocks.
[08:12] <Laney> toasty
[08:13] <willcooke> didrocks, \o/
[08:13]  * Laney wants a nightly 10:30 feed
[08:13] <willcooke> lol
[08:14] <didrocks> willcooke: well, first time, let's see if it was a flaky success or will be reproducible builds :)
[08:15]  * duflu suggests a different verb
[08:15] <duflu> Building takes a long time
[08:15] <seb128> didrocks, he had dinner at 9pm and 10:30pm before? or you shifted the feeding schedule completely for that?
[08:16] <seb128> in any case well done!
[08:17] <didrocks> seb128: 7:30pm/8pm, but you don't put him to sleep right away :)
[08:17] <didrocks> duflu: correct :p
[08:17] <seb128> ah, right
[08:55] <willcooke> What do you think about making gedit the default file handler for xml instead of firefox?
[08:55] <willcooke> s/you/anyone
[08:57] <didrocks> making sense, I think if people want to "view" a structured xml file with easy click on nodes and such, they can do it manually in the browser, so edit as default handler makes sense to me
[08:58] <willcooke> I find that 9 times out of 10 Firefox just complains that the XML file isn't valid and so I don't see anything at all
[08:58] <willcooke> whereas with gedit at least I can view the content
[08:59] <didrocks> you don't pick the correct XML files, that's why :p but yeah, it's another valid argument for this change :)
[08:59] <oSoMoN> but gedit won’t apply XSL stylesheets with which an XML document might be rendered as HTML
[08:59] <oSoMoN> (not a use case I really care about though)
[09:00] <didrocks> last time I personnaly had to use XSL stylesheets (that I was creating, a long headache and sad story) for XML is in 2003 personally
[09:01] <willcooke> my usecases are probably not the same as most actual developers, but I find that Firefox fails to display anything the vast majority of the time, so not applying XSL in gedit is probably preferable than getting just an error message in Firefox
[09:02] <oSoMoN> yeah
[09:05] <oSoMoN> people working a lot with XML files probably use a separate viewer/IDE anyway
[09:05] <didrocks> yeah, most of IDEs have viewer or extensions for this
[09:05] <didrocks> like vsc
[09:10] <seb128> I don't think I ever open xml files so no real opinion on that
[09:11] <didrocks> even not a .glade file? :)
[09:12] <seb128> those have their own mimetype and open in glade :p
[09:13] <didrocks> true :)
[09:26] <xnox> Trevinho, i have had requests for light-themes to be made available in Debian
[09:27] <Trevinho> jbicha: oh, I see... Well, what's the solution tho? As I guess we want to tune the shell
[09:27] <Trevinho> Hi Europe, btw :)
[09:27] <Trevinho> xnox: oh, cool...
[09:27] <muktupavels> Trevinho: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24642283/
[09:28] <muktupavels> can I push that?
[09:28] <Trevinho> That package includes now also some unity8 stuff that we might delete tho...
[09:28] <Trevinho> While I'd love to do some SURUization of a gtk theme too when i've time... what do you think willcooke ?
[09:30] <willcooke> Trevinho, put it on the back log :)
[09:31] <andyrock> anyone experienced with libsoup
[09:31] <andyrock> with the python binding
[09:31] <andyrock> ?
[09:33] <Trevinho> andyrock: I did just few calls with that, so I won't call me an expert
[09:33] <andyrock> I'm having troubles with Soup.message.set_request
[09:34] <andyrock> the last parameters is expecting a list of numbers (so I guess a buffer of char)
[09:34] <andyrock> but body.encode('utf8') does not work
[09:35] <seb128> hey Trevinho
[09:36] <Trevinho> that's a string...
[09:36] <Trevinho> hi seb128
[09:36] <muktupavels> Trevinho: can I push that patch?
[09:36] <andyrock> ideally the python binding should just get a string :D
[09:37] <andyrock> i guess I can use a python native library
[09:37] <andyrock> but then I lose the glib main-loop integration
[09:37] <Trevinho> muktupavels: sorry, I forgot to reply :)
[09:38] <Trevinho> muktupavels: yes, ok
[09:38] <Trevinho> andyrock: did you see https://lazka.github.io/pgi-docs/#Soup-2.4/classes/Message.html#Soup.Message.set_request ?
[09:38] <Trevinho> andyrock: in python3 you've to use bytes...
[09:39] <muktupavels> Trevinho: ok, pushed. Do you plan to make 3.24.0 release?
[09:39] <muktupavels> Trevinho: and did you try to add hover effect for appmenu?
[09:40] <andyrock> str.enconde('...')
[09:40] <Trevinho> Mh, yeah... I will
[09:40] <andyrock> returns bytes
[09:40] <andyrock> i'll check with wireshark
[09:40] <andyrock> maybe the problems is somewhere else
[09:40] <Trevinho> muktupavels: which one you'd suggest? But I wouldn't touch hover...
[09:41] <Trevinho> muktupavels: ideally I would apply a "shine" to the icon, but that's a little annying to do here..
[09:41] <Trevinho> Well not too hard, but I didn't try
[09:41] <Laney> andyrock: SoupLogger is useful
[09:41] <muktupavels> Trevinho: no idea, but it feels that there must be something... Anyway, thanks for fix.
[09:41] <andyrock> Laney: cool thanks
[09:41] <andyrock> :D
[09:42] <Trevinho> muktupavels: feel free to experiment and write in review, I'd prefer not to spend too much in that :)
[09:43] <muktupavels> Trevinho: I have no time to experiment. :(
[11:38] <Laney> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QW85kfakJc <- this is our song for folk club tonight
[11:38] <Laney> /o\
[12:07] <jbicha> Trevinho: I don't know how we'll package it yet, but don't let that stop you from working on gnome-shell theming if you want
[12:08] <jbicha> Trevinho: you can ask fmuellner how he recommends handling that
[12:37] <willcooke> right, going to attempt to work outside... let's see how long I last
[12:38] <didrocks> willcooke: enjoy!
[13:44] <Laney> ~/.
[13:44] <Laney> #.
[14:04] <Laney> oh some of that did make it through
[14:04] <Laney> the library's wifi is so crap this afternoon that I paid for tethering on my mobile
[14:31] <oSoMoN> Laney, my daughter used to love that song, her first contact with English :)
[14:31] <Laney> oSoMoN: \o/
[14:31] <Laney> it's got some weird words in there
[14:32] <oSoMoN> wallow?
[14:33] <Laney> inamorata or something
[14:34] <oSoMoN> ah that one escaped me, let me listen to it again :)
[14:35]  * Laney printed the words out :P
[14:35] <Laney> looks like it's italian (or derived from an italian word)
[14:36] <oSoMoN> Trevinho and andyrock to the rescue!
[14:36] <andyrock> innamorata maybe
[14:37] <oSoMoN> looks similar to spanish’s "enamorada" == in love
[14:37] <andyrock> yeah same mining
[14:37] <Laney> yeah
[14:37]  * Laney snuggles andyrock
[14:37] <Laney> mia innamorata
[14:38] <andyrock> e.g. Trevinho is "un eterno innamorato"
[14:38] <andyrock> :D
[14:39] <Trevinho> For ever...
[14:40] <Trevinho> And of everything
[15:23] <Laney> g r e a t
[15:27] <didrocks>  + 1 + 1
[18:45] <willcooke> night all.  reminder that I'm out tomorrow morning, be back after lunch
[18:45] <willcooke> o/
[19:20] <oSoMoN> good night all