[01:21] <superm1> keescook, okay i got a debdiff ready
[01:21] <superm1> i tested its changes and so did majoridiot
[01:22] <majoridiot> :)
[01:23] <superm1> its attached to bug 105948
[01:23] <ubotu> Malone bug 105948 in mythtv "Update Notifier notification isn't installed" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105948
[01:32] <keescook> superm1: cool!
[01:36] <keescook> superm1: urgh.  I wish there was a better way to handle the backend start/stop... :(  doing that kill/xterm seems hackish, but I guess it'll be okay
[01:36] <superm1> well its just taken right from the init script
[01:36] <superm1> but since mythtv cant do the init script without sudo
[01:37] <majoridiot> i think i'll give the RC a testdrive on my main box when it finally drops...
[01:38] <majoridiot> see if it plays any nicer than herd 5 did.
[01:38] <superm1> majoridiot, just upgrade with update-manager
[01:38] <superm1> i did it to my desktop last night
[01:38] <majoridiot> i had probs with hardware, as i recall.  wanna try the livecd first.
[01:42] <superm1> keescook, everything else look good though?
[01:42] <keescook> superm1: yeah, I'll get it built and uploaded in a few minutes.
[01:42] <superm1> keescook, awesome!
[01:42] <keescook> did Hobbsee say when universe freezes?
[01:42] <superm1> today
[01:43] <keescook> this area should be cleaned up for feisty+1, though, I'm not sure how.  :)
[01:43] <superm1> which area should be cleaned up for feisty+1?
[01:44] <keescook> the backend start/stop business.  :)
[01:44] <superm1> oh of course
[01:44] <superm1> well thats plenty of time to think
[01:44] <superm1> and it only is affected on standalone installs
[01:44] <superm1> its still clean for mythtv-setup.sh
[01:52] <majoridiot> ok... second run through and mythbackend is running as it should be after the fill.
[01:52] <majoridiot> :)
[01:52] <majoridiot> all systems go.
[01:54] <superm1> okay majoridiot you just need a screen cap from that one thing in a desktop install now right?
[01:54] <majoridiot> frontend 100% as well.
[01:54] <superm1> for starting mythtv-setup?
[01:54] <majoridiot> yes
[01:54] <majoridiot> *thinking*
[01:54] <majoridiot> i should be able to cap the ssh session for server stuff, so that should be it.
[01:55] <majoridiot> at the risk of redundantly repeating myself ad-nauseum-
[01:55] <majoridiot> best...install...EVER.
[01:56] <superm1> hehe
[01:56] <superm1> well do we have all ends covered now for someone doing a GUI install
[01:56] <superm1> to stay away from command line?
[01:56] <superm1> that was the big thing i was hoping for
[01:56] <majoridiot> should never have to open a terminal.
[01:56] <majoridiot> :D
[01:57] <superm1> k good
[01:59] <superm1> i dont like to be modest in documentation
[01:59] <majoridiot> immodest?
[01:59] <majoridiot> hehe
[01:59] <majoridiot> 'cause yer WAY too modest sometimes.
[01:59] <superm1> haha
[01:59] <majoridiot> shall i do a server install?
[01:59] <majoridiot> and cap that stuff?
[02:00] <superm1> which stuff is needed in the server install yet?
[02:00] <majoridiot> are there new prompts for the auto mythfill, etc or is that just for desktops?
[02:01] <superm1> yea those are there
[02:01] <majoridiot> k
[02:01] <majoridiot> i'll grab 'em ssh
[02:01] <superm1> but you can just use the desktop screen shots, because they will be done using zentiy
[02:01] <superm1> zenity
[02:01] <majoridiot> nothing left to test before i format this desktop?
[02:01] <superm1> na i dont think so.  as long as these changes worked as expected
[02:02] <majoridiot> eh... i'll cap the zenity shots... they are *slightly* different and some people get anal when the pix don't match the words. (unless you say forget it)
[02:02] <majoridiot> it's up and running fine- although no tuners.  LOL
[02:02] <superm1> well nothing has changed that would break anything else
[02:03] <superm1> all packaging changes
[02:03] <superm1> so no worries there
[02:03] <keescook> superm1: uploaded!
[02:03] <superm1> awesome keescook!
[02:03] <superm1> wow thats like 8 or 9 mythtv bug fixes in 3 days
[02:04] <superm1> :)
[02:04] <keescook> :):)
[02:05] <majoridiot> that's all?
[02:05] <majoridiot> JUST 8 or 9?
[02:05] <majoridiot> slacker.
[02:18] <majoridiot> vg. ty. :)
[02:18] <superm1> good
[02:18] <majoridiot> looks like i finally got the auto dcc setup.
[02:19] <superm1> dcc'ing is much easier on campus
[02:19] <superm1> doesnt have to fight firewall at home
[02:20] <majoridiot> these changes are in?  guide should be updated now?
[02:20] <superm1> it wont hurt to update it, builds will be on mirrors by tomorrow
[02:21] <majoridiot> k
[02:21] <majoridiot> i'll do the server stuff and then update the pages
[03:23] <majoridiot> superm1: guide changes complete
[03:23] <superm1> good good
[03:23] <superm1> hopefully these show up to the mirrors soon
[03:25] <majoridiot> oops... forgot the mythtv-setup :S
[03:25] <majoridiot> lol
[03:38] <majoridiot> done.
[03:38] <majoridiot> time to eat something.
[03:38] <majoridiot> biab
[04:32] <majoridiot> hm. missed him.
[05:40] <majoridiot> hm. still no RC.  deadline missed?
[05:52] <billbrasky> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000279.html
[05:53] <majoridiot> where have you been billy-boy, billy-boy...
[05:53] <majoridiot> ty ;)
[05:53] <billbrasky> billy baroo
[05:53] <majoridiot> oh billy, billy, billy, billy....
[05:53] <majoridiot> LMAO a classic!
[05:53] <billbrasky> hehe
[05:53] <billbrasky> agreed
[05:53] <majoridiot> what'cha fightin?
[05:53] <billbrasky> i have a bushwood cc t-shirt i wear once in a while
[05:53] <billbrasky> completely new system
[05:54] <billbrasky> won't power up for some reason
[05:54] <billbrasky> (my new myth system)
[05:54] <majoridiot> you built it?
[05:54] <billbrasky> yea
[05:54] <majoridiot> all new stuff?
[05:54] <billbrasky> been reseating stuff, and whatnot
[05:54] <billbrasky> i think all new
[05:54] <billbrasky> *scratching head*
[05:54] <billbrasky> case is used
[05:54] <majoridiot> do you get any BIOS beeps?
[05:54] <billbrasky> :-)
[05:55] <billbrasky> nothing
[05:55] <billbrasky> weird stuff too
[05:55] <billbrasky> like cpu fan won't spin up
[05:55] <billbrasky> but gpu fan will
[05:55] <majoridiot> wow
[05:55] <billbrasky> i don't have any other hardware around here to troubleshoot & swap around
[05:56] <billbrasky> plus been busy with other stuff too  :-/
[05:56] <majoridiot> have you tried resetting the bios?
[05:56] <billbrasky> i had lots of stuff available to play with at the last job, so i'd usually just bring it in to work to do all my work with
[05:56] <billbrasky> not yet
[05:56] <billbrasky> the mobo 'manual' is a fold out poster/pamphlet
[05:56] <billbrasky> i couldn't believe it
[05:56] <majoridiot> i'd start with a bios reset
[05:56] <billbrasky> ea
[05:56] <billbrasky> yea
[05:56] <majoridiot> LMAO ew.
[05:56] <majoridiot> what mobo?
[05:57] <billbrasky> i have a list of 20 things to try
[05:57] <billbrasky> foxconn something or other
[05:57] <majoridiot> have you tried a diff power supply also?
[05:57] <billbrasky> no that's on my list :-)
[05:57] <majoridiot> ah
[05:57] <majoridiot> start there
[05:58] <majoridiot> that would explain GPU but no cpu, etc.
[05:58] <majoridiot> different PS circuits. :)
[05:58] <billbrasky> i've pared down my pc part collection... moved in with the gf to a place that is 600 sq ft. doesn't allow for 14 computers :-)
[05:58] <billbrasky> yep
[05:58] <majoridiot> and do it fast... if that PS is cooked, you could bork the mobo with bad voltages.
[05:58] <billbrasky> right
[05:59] <billbrasky> hehe
[05:59] <billbrasky> np
[05:59] <billbrasky> i got frustrated at not having any parts around here to swap out & test with
[06:00] <majoridiot> get milk crates, dude... they are stackable
[06:00] <majoridiot> (in case the GF has a sq ft rule)
[06:00] <majoridiot> ;)
[06:00] <billbrasky> haha
[06:01] <majoridiot> getting rid of the sweaters alone would probably free up enough room for 2 or 3 good boxes.
[06:01] <billbrasky> hehe
[06:02] <billbrasky> looks like you guys been busy with the myth packages
[06:02] <billbrasky> & documentation
[06:02] <billbrasky> looks good
[06:02] <majoridiot> the "final" package for the moment is sheer brilliance.
[06:03] <superm1> well i think that this pretty much is "final"
[06:03] <superm1> supposed to freeze universe tonite
[06:03] <majoridiot> for desktop installs, you only need to open a terminal to change the bind address for mysql and then again for a final start and test of the backend.  all the rest is now GUI
[06:04] <billbrasky> impressive
[06:04] <superm1> well you dont even have to do that much necessarily :)
[06:04] <majoridiot> superm1: you had been quiet for a little while... wasn't sure what you were up to ;)
[06:04] <billbrasky> i've been dying to use ubuntu as a base for myth
[06:04] <superm1> majoridiot, i've been working on hw.  i heard my computer beep and came back
[06:05] <majoridiot> superm1: anything good?
[06:05] <majoridiot> or just maintenance?
[06:05] <superm1> oh i heard it beep because you said my name ;)
[06:07] <majoridiot> i'm just sitting here trying to see the appeal of aqua teen hungerforce
[06:08] <billbrasky> haha
[06:08] <billbrasky> i dig the show
[06:08] <majoridiot> i was hoping haha... it just eludes me.
[06:08] <majoridiot> and i dig odd humor
[06:08] <billbrasky> but i can see why some people don't like it
[06:09] <majoridiot> it's not "not like" per se, i'm just indifferent.  i think i've chucked twice in three or four viewings
[06:09] <billbrasky> right
[06:09] <billbrasky> what shows are your faves?
[06:10] <majoridiot> classic stuff- fawlty towers, the dick van dyke show... well mst anything on tvland
[06:11] <billbrasky> ha
[06:11] <majoridiot> more modern stuff... anything from newsradio to little brittain
[06:11] <majoridiot> my name is earl 30 rock and the office are current faves
[06:11] <superm1> majoridiot, do u get bbc america?
[06:11] <majoridiot> yup
[06:12] <majoridiot> via firewire :)
[06:12] <superm1> there is this show that i've been watching on it that i like
[06:12] <superm1> Gordon Ramsey's: The F Word
[06:12] <superm1> i dont have digital cable anymore (just analog), so i've been torrenting it, but i love this show
[06:12] <billbrasky> yea i just started watching 30 rock
[06:12] <billbrasky> office is funny stuff
[06:12] <billbrasky> i like the original office too
[06:13] <billbrasky> where you guys going tomorrow?
[06:13] <superm1> class, work, bars?
[06:14] <billbrasky> oops, wrong window ;-)
[06:14] <superm1> haha
[06:14] <majoridiot> superm1: is it running currently?  i can't find it in the scheduler
[06:14] <superm1> haha
[06:14] <superm1> it should be
[06:14] <superm1> i dont know i spelled his name right
[06:14] <superm1> but the f word is pretty straightforward
[06:15] <majoridiot> well i've looked under G R T and F
[06:15] <superm1> maybe they are on a break right now, i know they were running new eps last month or two
[06:15] <billbrasky> what is it ?
[06:15] <superm1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_F-Word
[06:15] <billbrasky> oh that chef dude
[06:16] <superm1> yea he is an ass to all of his chef amateurs
[06:16] <superm1> its helarious
[06:16] <billbrasky> argh, getting late. c'yall later.
[06:18] <majoridiot> ah.  off-schedule.  i'll keep my eyes open, tho.
[06:19] <superm1> k
[06:19] <superm1> the only show i watched on BBC america if that means much
[06:19] <superm1> oh i better get going
[06:19] <superm1> i dont want to miss the bus again
[06:19] <superm1> tonite
[06:19] <majoridiot> later
[08:10] <superm1> gardengnome, around?
[09:24] <Xenocide> hey majoridiot you there?
[09:25] <majoridiot> kinda
[09:25] <majoridiot> 'sup?
[09:25] <Xenocide> i think im gonna redo my mythtv box, setup it up with different harddrives am i pretty much clear to go to feisty
[09:26] <majoridiot> you'll like the new feisty packages :)
[09:26] <majoridiot> doing laundry... keep talkin away, i'll brb.
[09:29] <majoridiot> yes... the feisty packages are clear to go.
[09:29] <majoridiot> the most recent should be in your local mirror by now... it is in the one that i use.
[09:30] <Xenocide> cool
[09:30] <Xenocide> i just hope the blue screen bug doesn't pop back up for me
[09:30] <majoridiot> ?
[09:30] <Xenocide> yea im doing laundry too
[09:30] <majoridiot> blue screen bug?
[09:30] <Xenocide> actually time to go get the clothes out f the dryer too
[09:30] <Xenocide> brb
[09:30] <majoridiot> np
[09:30] <Xenocide> i had the blueman group looking people, mario submitted those screenshots to ATI devs
[09:30] <Xenocide> idk if he told you
[09:31] <Xenocide> brb
[09:31] <majoridiot> oh that.  don't get your hopes up.  ATI has pretty much said no support now... nor for the forseeable future.
[09:33] <majoridiot> i just pulled the radeon 9600 out of my backend box and put in a spare nvidia 5500FX.  got tired of fighting the ATI drivers to ge TV out working and their little announcement about incompatibility, etc. kinda sealed the deal.  no more ATI for me.
[09:36] <Xenocide> well
[09:37] <Xenocide> sadly my frontend/backend box is pci-express
[09:37] <Xenocide> and i don't want to go shelling out $$
[09:37] <Xenocide> agp fine i can get a card for next to nothing
[09:37] <majoridiot> yeah
[09:38] <Xenocide> i hate laundry!!!
[09:38] <majoridiot> i just put in a (regular) pci 5500
[09:38] <Xenocide> i could probabbly do that but i just don't want to spend any $$
[09:39] <majoridiot> i had spares, so it worked out ok.
[09:39] <Xenocide> damn my jeans are still wet
[09:44] <Xenocide> its possible for mythvideo to pull off a share right?
[09:46] <majoridiot> absolutely
[09:47] <majoridiot> as long as the permissions are set right
[09:47] <majoridiot> basically chmod -R a+r <path>
[09:47] <majoridiot> to set read permissions globally
[09:47] <Xenocide> cool
[09:48] <Xenocide> impulling 600gb out and using freenas instead
[09:48] <majoridiot> in fact, i want to setup my xvid drive on this frontend  so the backend can share it
[09:49] <majoridiot> so i can watch xvids on the main tv when it is workin
[09:55] <majoridiot> i will say that the one beauty thing about laundry day...
[09:55] <majoridiot> cleeeeeeeeen sheeeeeeeeets.
[09:55] <majoridiot> :D
[09:57] <Xenocide> haha i almost done with mine
[09:58] <Xenocide> for the feisty LIRC package, i don't need mario's repository for the pvr-150 remote, right?
[09:58] <majoridiot> right
[09:58] <Xenocide> looks like its so much easier to install
[09:58] <majoridiot> MUCH :)
[09:58] <Xenocide> no ivtv, or anything
[09:58] <majoridiot> nope
[09:58] <Xenocide> damn boy you should hav ehad me use fesity before
[09:59] <majoridiot> it wasn't quite ready
[09:59] <majoridiot> but it sure is now.
[09:59] <Xenocide> when did it become "ready"
[09:59] <majoridiot> last night.
[09:59] <majoridiot> LOL
[09:59] <Xenocide> LOL
[09:59] <majoridiot> that was when the final changes were uploaded.
[09:59] <majoridiot> are you doing a server or desktop install?
[10:00] <Xenocide> and what were they
[10:00] <Xenocide> alt
[10:00] <Xenocide> so pretty much server
[10:00] <Xenocide> openbox gui
[10:00] <majoridiot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Feisty_new
[10:01] <Xenocide> even mythweb is fixed :)
[10:01] <Xenocide> bravo
[10:02] <majoridiot> he has been busy. :)
[10:03] <Xenocide> if only suspsend worked on feisty on my laptop
[10:03] <Xenocide> works fine in edgy, so weird
[10:05] <majoridiot> did the driver change?  if so, you might be able to downgrade until it is fixed.
[10:05] <Xenocide> not sure
[10:05] <Xenocide> this late, it might not be fixed
[10:05] <majoridiot> my ethernet driver was broken for WOL in edgy but the new ver in feisty is fixed.
[10:06] <majoridiot> as a later upgrade, possibly.
[10:06] <Xenocide> like it comes up but X is artifacted
[10:06] <Xenocide> its weird
[10:06] <Xenocide> i just have to restart X control alt backspace
[10:07] <majoridiot> hm.  have you searched for a bugreport?
[10:07] <Xenocide> nope
[10:25] <superm1> majoridiot, just sent u a note
[11:10] <Xenocide> even the feisty cd isntalls faster
[11:10] <majoridiot> yup
[11:10] <Xenocide> im doing it right now
[11:10] <Xenocide> i decided to not move hdds around
[11:11] <Xenocide> even thought there are 3 ontop of eachother and almost no air ill keep it in there and jus tmove the mythtv files to the 200gb boot drive
[11:11] <majoridiot> airflow is key
[11:15] <Xenocide> i know
[11:15] <Xenocide> this case eallows for a good amount but none near hdd
[11:15] <Xenocide> htpc case
[11:15] <Xenocide> 3 hdds stacked ontop of eachother absoultely NO room
[11:15] <Xenocide> they get pretty hot
[11:17] <Xenocide> burning to the touch
[11:17] <majoridiot> that's way too hot, man.
[11:17] <majoridiot> yer gonna cook 'em.
[11:17] <Xenocide> yupppp
[11:17] <Xenocide> yup
[11:18] <majoridiot> at least get heat sinks for them or something
[11:18] <Xenocide> tempted to pull them out
[11:18] <Xenocide> heatsinks..for harddrves
[11:18] <Xenocide> wtf
[11:19] <majoridiot> yeah
[11:19] <Xenocide> i have never heard of t hat
[11:19] <majoridiot> i have a couple
[11:20] <Xenocide> maybe if its in a 5.25 bay but not a standard one
[11:20] <Xenocide> what do they look like
[11:20] <majoridiot> yes 5.25
[11:20] <Xenocide> oh ok
[11:29] <Xenocide> well i ended up taking them out
[11:29] <Xenocide> they were way too hot
[11:30] <majoridiot> likely for the best
[11:30] <majoridiot> if they are too hot to touch, the would not have survived long.
[11:43] <Xenocide> eh its hung at running local bootscripts but i can ssh into it
[11:43] <majoridiot> no... it just looks like it is
[11:43] <majoridiot> go ahead and login
[11:43] <majoridiot> from time to time that alt boots with a goofy screen.
[11:44] <Xenocide> and i should use the pvr150 module
[11:44] <Xenocide> incase i want ir blaster?
[11:44] <majoridiot> for some reason it throws up the login before the init scrips are done.
[11:44] <Xenocide> i didn' teven know he put that in there
[11:44] <majoridiot> pvr150 for oncard blaster, yes.
[11:44] <majoridiot> mceusb or mceusb2 for usb blaster
[11:45] <Xenocide> pvr150 will also support the remote as well though
[11:45] <Xenocide> right?
[11:45] <majoridiot> yes... build 12c and pvr150
[11:45] <majoridiot> that will do remote and blaster
[11:46] <Xenocide> oh both of them
[11:46] <Xenocide> crap
[11:46] <Xenocide> i thought the pvr150 package included i2c
[11:47] <majoridiot> sokay...
[11:48] <majoridiot> start again with the dpkg-reconfigure step
[11:56] <Xenocide> does this run without openbox or something?
[11:56] <majoridiot> the backend only?  yes.
[11:56] <Xenocide> no frontend as well
[11:57] <Xenocide> does not ask for X server
[11:57] <Xenocide> in the package?
[11:57] <majoridiot> frontend rund openbox
[11:57] <majoridiot> runs
[11:57] <Xenocide> k
[11:57] <Xenocide> and why does it tell me not to install ati drivers
[11:57] <Xenocide> it says later
[11:57] <Xenocide> but never says when
[11:58] <majoridiot> you can install the drivers as soon as you have myth installed.
[11:58] <Xenocide> k
[12:07] <Xenocide> wow mythtv spash and everything
[12:07] <majoridiot> yup
[12:08] <Xenocide> this says i should have had to login and run mythtv setup but it did it for me so i don't have to worry about adding myself to the group, correctr?
[12:08] <majoridiot> correct
[12:12] <Xenocide> once i get mythsetup working fine probabbly about time to do ati drivers?
[12:12] <majoridiot> sure
[12:13] <majoridiot> any time after the mythtv packages are installed is fine
[12:13] <Xenocide> what guide should i use
[12:14] <majoridiot> ?
[12:14] <Xenocide> for installing ati drivers
[12:14] <Xenocide> any special way
[12:15] <majoridiot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/WhatNext/Feisty or your preference...
[12:16] <Xenocide> wow these help files are way nicer too :)
[12:17] <Xenocide> nj on those ;)
[12:17] <majoridiot> ty
[12:23] <Xenocide> everything just works :)


[12:20] <tsoler> hello
[12:20] <tsoler> is anyone here?
[12:20] <tsoler> need to set up java for geoserver
[12:21] <tsoler> JAVA_home variable need to define


[04:24] <arraybolt3> I just checked the Launchpad bug tracker, and it seems that https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/intel/-/issues/8685 has not yet been reported. While I haven't encountered this exact problem, I just ran into someone who has encountered it earlier today. The problem has a patch in the upstream kernel already at
[04:24] -ubottu:#ubuntu-kernel- Issue 8685 in drm/intel "The display becomes frozen with error: [drm] *ERROR* [CRTC:131:pipe B] flip_done timed out on [Iris Xe Graphics]" [Closed]
[04:24] <arraybolt3><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:25] <arraybolt3> There'll probably be a bug report from either me or my boss soon enough, but I wanted to mention this here now.
[04:46] <arraybolt3> actually, the bug is already reported here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-signed-hwe-6.5/+bug/2049027
[04:46] -ubottu:#ubuntu-kernel- Launchpad bug 2049027 in linux-signed-hwe-6.5 (Ubuntu) "The display becomes frozen after some time when a HDMI device is connected." [Undecided, New]
[12:25] <LocutusOfBorg> arighi hello, I closed LP: #2048778 and LP: #2049751
[12:25] -ubottu:#ubuntu-kernel- Launchpad bug 2048778 in falcosecurity-libs (Ubuntu Noble) "falcosecurity-libs DKMS FTBFS wrt Linux 6.7" [Undecided, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2048778
[12:25] -ubottu:#ubuntu-kernel- Launchpad bug 2049751 in falcosecurity-libs (Ubuntu Noble) "falcosecurity-scap-dkms FTBS with the latest linux 6.7 kernel in noble" [Undecided, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2049751
[12:25] <LocutusOfBorg> please let me know if it still fails
[13:41] <arighi> hey LocutusOfBorg, thank you so much!
[13:48] <LocutusOfBorg> please don't forget to ping in case 6.8 becomes a problem for falcosecurity-libs :)
[13:58] <arighi> LocutusOfBorg, ack :)
[14:09] <LocutusOfBorg> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/introducing-kernel-6-8-for-the-24-04-noble-numbat-release/41958
[14:09] <LocutusOfBorg> arighi, "Support for enabling/disabling 86-bit x32 programs and syscalls at boot"
[14:09] <LocutusOfBorg> sorry but the typo made my day :D
[14:11] <LocutusOfBorg> I really hope the world won't ever need 86-bit processors :D
[15:56] <arighi> LocutusOfBorg, as it's written it actually sounds like 86-bits programs (~10 bytes), so pretty small programs, let me fix that :D
[16:04] <LocutusOfBorg> 86 bits ought to be enough for anybody (citation needed)
[16:04] <LocutusOfBorg> :D
[20:18] <arighi> lmao


[23:15] <johan_1337> someone know if it takes long time to verify img file when i am coverting it to iso or if the software have frozeen?
[23:15] <Guest48753> bkc_: Quick feedback, I checked 'dmesg | grep snd' to identify the driver and with modprobe it's all back on track. Many thanks.
[23:15] <dr_willis> johan_1337,  whats the img file and how big is  the img file?
[23:15] <zykotick9> johan_1337: converting an img to iso is usually a bad plan
[23:15] <Guest43153> dr_willis: i get no proprietary drivers
[23:15] <JessicaW> here's a harder one. How to make/make install on a debootstrap image?
[23:15] <dr_willis> !debootstrap
[23:15] <johan_1337> it is backtrack and size is 1gig
[23:16] <bkc_> JessicaW: np :)
[23:16] <szal> !backtrack | johan_1337
[23:16] <dr_willis> johan_1337,  this is a hard drive/vm image file?
[23:16] <johan_1337> dont know
[23:16] <johan_1337> my processor is running 100%
[23:17] <dr_willis> time to ask about it in the backtrack channels then i guess.. Not sure why you would even want an img file...
[23:17] <johan_1337> its frozeen or?
[23:17] <bkc_> dr_willis: I'm guessing it was an iso... like he said
[23:17] <dr_willis> johan_1337,  check top output perhaps.. or the file size of the iso and see if its still growing.
[23:17] <JessicaW> dr_willis: thanks doc. I know what it is though. I need to know how to install to the image if I don't have build-essentials installed. If I chroot to it, won't it screw up the current installation?
[23:18] <newtoubuntu> i get no propriatery drivers. now what
[23:18] <dr_willis> JessicaW,  i never use it..
[23:18] <johan_1337> it is veryfying img still
[23:18] <JessicaW> dr_willis: ahhh. okies then.
[23:18] <bkc_> JessicaW: chroot changes your root... so it wont mess with your current installation :)
[23:18] <dr_willis> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot   I figured would have details you need...
[23:19] <JessicaW> bkc_: even if it installs a daemon and starts it?
[23:19] <py> if i turn on ufw will i get disconected from ssh ?
[23:19] <bkc_> JessicaW: yes
[23:19] <JessicaW> bkc_: well awesome! Answers that question. thanks!
[23:19] <bkc_> py: if you block port22 (don't open it) then yes
[23:19] <bkc_> JessicaW: np, ArchLinux is installed that way nowadays :)
[23:20] <py> bkc_: is it possible to check rules
[23:20] <newtoubuntu> dr_willis:  it says no proprietary drivers. now what
[23:20] <py> before enabling it ?
[23:20] <min|dvir|us> Hi. Can someone recommend a GTK git frontend?
[23:20] <Kevin1a> I'm having a problem where my sound stutters badly and occasionally cuts in and out.  It happens in both Windows and Ubuntu.  It happens with the onboard audio, with a soundcard, with an external soundcard, and with my wireless headset (although it's worst with the soundcard).  I don't even know what to check next!
[23:20] <JessicaW> bkc_: I'm setting up 10.04 in a HPC cluster and I need a resource management daemon to run on both the server/head-node and the compute nodes which are loaded via nfs
[23:20] <min|dvir|us> Kevin1a: though it's doubtful it could be your motherboard.
[23:21] <[aViDaN]> hi all
[23:21] <newtoubuntu> hi
[23:21] <JessicaW> hi back
[23:21] <newtoubuntu> can some one help me with my intel driver issues?
[23:21] <[aViDaN]> i want to find a good linux for my 2011 macbook air
[23:21] <enekoos> hello
[23:21] <min|dvir|us> [aViDaN]: distrowatch.com.
[23:21] <[aViDaN]> k
[23:22] <KM0201> Kevin1a: if it's happening with both windows and ubuntu, your motherboard sound and a sound card... i would look at some sort of outside interference (something sitting near the speakers that might be interferring, or the speakers themselves being bad)
[23:22] <bkc_> py: afaik there's no rules before adding them, hence all are blocked... I'd setup the rules before enabling the firewall :)
[23:22] <bsmith093> im going to put lucid on and replace jaunty, how do i backup my entier home dir?
[23:22] <py> aha
[23:22] <bsmith093> hidden stuff included
[23:22] <min|dvir|us> bsmith093: cp -R ~ /path/to/backup. Or use rsync.
[23:22] <bkc_> newtoubuntu: don't ask to ask, just ask and someone might have a look at it
[23:22] <py> bkc_: what does this do: udo ufw default allow udo ufw default deny
[23:22] <enekoos> ubuntu 12:04 not use xorg.conf were I can configure virtual monitor for use 2 monitor
[23:22] <dr_willis> newtoubuntu,  intel dos4ent use propareity drivers.. they should be included.
[23:23] <min|dvir|us> enekoos: it uses xorg.conf but one is not included by default.
[23:23] <bkc_> py: that blocks everything :)
[23:23] <newtoubuntu> bkc_ its kind of hard when you dont get an answer and you try to be polite at the same time
[23:23] <dr_willis> actually no rules = Nothing is blocked....
[23:23] <enekoos> configuration not is other files now?
[23:23] <min|dvir|us> Can someone recommend a GTK git frontend?
[23:23] <py> bkc_: aha ok
[23:23] <bkc_> py: ooh... that's 2 commands actually :/
[23:23] <[aViDaN]> gnome or xfce for macbook air?
[23:23] <py> but if i add after that ufw allow ssh is it good than ?
[23:24] <JessicaW> unity. :D
[23:24] <bkc_> py: sudo ufw default allow <-- all open and swell, sudo ufw default deny <-- all closed behind walls :)
[23:24] <py> aha
[23:24] <newtoubuntu> dr_willis: my issue is a low res and a constant need to replace the quiet splash with nomodeset. I just want to correct the graphic and boot issues so i can enjoy this fine OS :)
[23:24] <py> so i could set ufw default deny
[23:24] <py> and after that
[23:24] <py> ufw allow ssh
[23:24] <py> it will allow ssh right ?
[23:24] <bkc_> py: and after that you have no ssh ^^
[23:24] <dr_willis> newtoubuntu,  if nomodeset works, you can make it the default. Ive never had issues with the intel on my netbooks. so cant really suggest much
[23:25] <JessicaW> bsmith093: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/backup
[23:25] <dr_willis> py,  if you have no other services running.. then theres nothing to really listen to the denyed ports. :)
[23:25] <bkc_> py: ufw allow ssh, ufw default deny <-- that will work, in that order (!!)
[23:25] <JessicaW> bsmith093: that's the tutorial I used anyways...
[23:25] <Kevin1a> min|dvir|us: The motherboard is a proprietary board that came out of an HP media PC.  Unfortunetly I can't seem to find an updated bios or anything for it.  Probably not looking in the right places.  Any other suggestions?   KM0201: I tried with headphones and a different cable last night and still had issues, so I don't think it's the speakers.
[23:25] <py> aha first i need to
[23:25] <py> open port
[23:25] <py> and than block all ?
[23:25] <py> not vice versa ?
[23:26] <bkc_> dr_willis: I'm guessing he's connected through an ssh-connectoin :/
[23:26] <min|dvir|us> Kevin1a: are you using the same inbound/outbound ports for microphone/speakers?
[23:26] <py> i am yes :S
[23:26] <bkc_> py: not block all... just the ones without a rule... hence 'default
[23:26] <bkc_> '
[23:26] <py> aha ok
[23:26] <py> sec
[23:26] <dr_willis> py,  so any other services you are running that need denied?
[23:26] <py> i hope i am not staying out
[23:26] <KM0201> Kevin1a: but if it's doing it in Windows and Ubuntu, it's obviously not an Ubuntu problem
[23:26] <py> well
[23:27] <py> i have few services that need to be open
[23:27] <py> but i would like to have ssh filtered
[23:27] <py> all other ports can be
[23:27] <py> opened for all
[23:27] <py> except ssh to IP
[23:27] <opieng> i installed google chrome, but don't know where its gone or how to access it
[23:27] <dr_willis> py,  details of your exact network setup would be handy..  im not sure how you are 'filtering' ssh by  having it open,, and layoff the enterkey
[23:27] <zimm3r> In ubuntu 11.04 is there a way for it to just ignore the certificate when connecting to the internet through a wpa2 enterprise network?
[23:28] <bkc_> !enter > py
[23:28] <newtoubuntu> dr_willis: many people have had this issue as ive seen on forums. how can i at least make nomodeset permanent? keep in mind i am a brand new user :)
[23:28] <JessicaW> bkc_: hmmm. If I chroot into the image, there's no path for the compilers and it errors out.
[23:28] <py> bkc_: dr_willis oki doki i would like to filter ssh so there won't be some jurks who try to brutforce ssh or something... so it will be filter only for my ip
[23:28] <W4sp> opieng: You can start from command line as 'chromium-browser &'
[23:28] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[23:29] <py> bkc_: dr_willis than i run ircd server wowza streaming and some other stuff that is open for public those ports should stay open for everyone
[23:29] <bkc_> JessicaW: you need to debootstrap build-essentials, as it isn't part of the base installation anymore :)
[23:29] <py> bkc_: dr_willis so what i am trying to do is filter ssh :)
[23:29] <bkc_> py: that requires more than ufw ^^
[23:29] <JessicaW> bkc_: bah. I'll just install it and purge it when done
[23:30] <py> bkc_: why :)
[23:30] <bkc_> JessicaW: It doesn't take that much space... so why not leave it :)
[23:30] <newtoubuntu> dr_willis: ok and i type that where for it to stick
[23:30] <py> isnt so that ports are by default open.... so i would need to filter only ssh
[23:30] <py> :)
[23:30] <opieng> W4sp, it says command not found, is there anyway of pulling up an icon, its for my wife laptop and she is not used to commands lines
[23:30] <opieng> .... by the looks of it neither am I, but I am determined to learn
[23:30] <Kevin1a> min|dvir|us: The onboard audio, the Creative sound card have seperate output jacks.  The Wireless headset just a has a little USB thing.  I'm guessing it has to be hardware related though because Ubuntu never really gives me problems, and now both it and Windows are acting up.  One more fact I forgot to mention.  The stuttering and static seem to be independent of the CPU load to some degree.  Yes it happens when I'm playing Crysis, but it a
[23:30] <Kevin1a> lso happens when I'm listening to a regular old mp3 or ogg file.
[23:31] <bkc_> py: I don't think you quite understan dhow ports and firewalls work, and I'm to drunk to explain ^^
[23:31] <dr_willis> newtoubuntu:  read the url the not gave
[23:31] <dr_willis> Not...
[23:31] <bkc_> !nomodeset | newtoubuntu
[23:31] <dr_willis> Silly auto fix..
[23:31] <py> i think i understand it, just not familiar with ubuntu and dont wonna lock me out
[23:31] <JessicaW> bkc_: I guess I could. I just want to keep the image very very small. All these servers are doing is processing. no writing to hdd or use of memory other than to support CPUs.
[23:31] <py> does hosts.deny allow still work on latest ubuntu ?
[23:32] <bkc_> JessicaW: well... they all use the same image on nfs, so there's not that much overhead really (done it already, on Arch thou)
[23:32] <graingert> py: why do you want to stop ssh/
[23:32] <graingert> ?*
[23:32] <W4sp> opieng: It should be in '/usr/bin/chromium-browser'. How did you install it? If you use Software Centre the icon is created automaticaly. Also, in Unity you can type in chrome and it should come up.
[23:32] <py> graingert: not stop
[23:32] <py> just filter per IP
[23:32] <bkc_> graingert: he wants to limit access to it
[23:32] <py> so only my ip would be able to login
[23:33] <JessicaW> bkc_: good point. It's only a few MB it looks like.
[23:33] <bkc_> py: and then I just have to rootkit your computer, and I'm done :)
[23:33] <py> :D
[23:33] <graingert> py: just use knockd, a different port and publickey auth
[23:33] <graingert> in reverse order
[23:33] <bkc_> py: filtered ip is really a moot argument :)
[23:34] <py> hm
[23:34] <bkc_> py: also, afaik you can turn on auto-blacklisting. so it will blacklist bruteforcers :/
[23:34] <graingert> py: those are the three best ways to stop people haxing you
[23:34] <zimm3r> Is there anyway to have ubuntu ignore a invalid cert on a wpa2 enterprise connection
[23:35] <opieng> W4sp, I install it through terminal with aptitude.. trying to learn command lines. I found it in unity, and it now pops an icon on the desktop for me
[23:35] <py> bkc_: graingert wait
[23:35] <lickalott> guys...i'm 10 google pages into vsftpd and cannot find out how to change the location of the default ftp path.  can someone point me in the right direction?
[23:35] <lickalott> plz
[23:35] <py> so what first
[23:35] <graingert> public key auth only
[23:35] <bkc_> JessicaW: a compiler is always good to have on a compute-cluster ;)
[23:35] <py> aha
[23:36] <bkc_> py: also, a strong password ^^
[23:36] <graingert> py: *reply to dm* hello?
[23:36] <W4sp> opieng: Fine, you can leave an icon in Launcher. When you have Chrome running right-click the icon in the Launcher.
[23:36] <newtoubuntu> Thanks a lot to all who helped me
[23:36] <graingert> bkc_: well you don't need to worry about passwords with pubkey only
[23:36] <bkc_> graingert: indeed
[23:37] <Oros> hi
[23:37] <py> good
[23:37] <py> than i am going to do that
[23:37] <py> tnx
[23:37] <py> what about fw than no need ?
[23:37] <bkc_> py: not really
[23:37] <py> if ports need to be open
[23:38] <Oros> Noticed that StartUpManager is no longer in the repository. What is the easiest way to edit the grub meny. Have tried to install Grub customizer without success
[23:38] <py> oki
[23:38] <JessicaW> bkc_: I'm noticing that. I think I'll leave it. :D
[23:38] <bkc_> firewalls are good for one thing, routers :)


[00:07] <tsimonq2> I just grabbed the beta from ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-next and it works fine
[00:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linbox [amd64] (yakkety-proposed) [1.4.2-1]
[00:13] <tsimonq2> bug 1632893
[00:14] <eylul> Hi. any chance the calligra package in the upload queue could be accepted at this stage? It seems the old calligra package was removed, and Krita (which is part of it) is a default program and seeded by ubuntustudio.
[00:17] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: in your hardinfo upload, you forgot to update "Last-Update: 2016-10-01" in debian/patches/04-fix-ftbfs-shared-symbols.diff
[00:17] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: if there's a way you can reasonably do that without too much hassle, I'd highly suggest doing so ;)
[00:18] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: after all, it hasn't been accepted yet
[00:22] <cyphermox> I don't think it's critical enough that it matters
[00:22] <tsimonq2> ok fair enough
[00:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: preseed (trusty-proposed/main) [1.62ubuntu1 => 1.62ubuntu2] (core)
[00:48] <cyphermox> slangasek: can you please reject preseed in trusty queue so I can reupload with a correct version number?
[00:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: preseed (xenial-proposed/main) [1.71ubuntu1 => 1.71ubuntu1.1] (core)
[01:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nvidia-cuda-toolkit (yakkety-proposed/multiverse) [7.5.18-4 => 8.0.44-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[01:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted nvidia-cuda-toolkit [source] (yakkety-proposed) [8.0.44-0ubuntu1]
[02:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-software (yakkety-proposed/main) [3.20.1+git20161003.0.7ac7d1b-0ubuntu1 => 3.20.1+git20161013.0.d77d6cf-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[03:08] <slangasek> cyphermox: done
[03:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected preseed [source] (trusty-proposed) [1.62ubuntu2]
[03:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd-glib (yakkety-proposed/universe) [0.14-0ubuntu1 => 1.1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[03:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted snapd-glib [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1.1-0ubuntu1]
[03:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd-glib (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1.1-0ubuntu1 => 1.2-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[03:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted snapd-glib [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1.2-0ubuntu1]
[03:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: snapd-glib [amd64] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1.2-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[03:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: snapd-glib [ppc64el] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1.2-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[03:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: snapd-glib [i386] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1.2-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[03:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: snapd-glib [arm64] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1.2-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[03:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: snapd-glib [armhf] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1.2-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[03:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: snapd-glib [powerpc] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1.2-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[03:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: snapd-glib [s390x] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1.2-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[04:11] <xnox> slangasek, just make texas blue, and everything will be fine....
[04:11] <xnox> speaking of which ev appears to not be voting
[04:13] <slangasek> ginggs: openfoam, 107 overrides of lintian errors does not give me warm fuzzies about accepting this package into a release.  are these existing errors in the Debian version?
[04:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted snapd-glib [amd64] (yakkety-proposed) [1.2-0ubuntu1]
[04:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted snapd-glib [armhf] (yakkety-proposed) [1.2-0ubuntu1]
[04:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted snapd-glib [powerpc] (yakkety-proposed) [1.2-0ubuntu1]
[04:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted snapd-glib [arm64] (yakkety-proposed) [1.2-0ubuntu1]
[04:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted snapd-glib [ppc64el] (yakkety-proposed) [1.2-0ubuntu1]
[04:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted snapd-glib [i386] (yakkety-proposed) [1.2-0ubuntu1]
[04:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted snapd-glib [s390x] (yakkety-proposed) [1.2-0ubuntu1]
[04:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted dasher [sync] (yakkety-proposed) [4.11+git20130508.adc653-3]
[04:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: dasher [i386] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [4.11+git20130508.adc653-3] (no packageset)
[04:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: dasher [ppc64el] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [4.11+git20130508.adc653-3] (no packageset)
[04:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: dasher [s390x] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [4.11+git20130508.adc653-3] (no packageset)
[04:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: dasher [amd64] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [4.11+git20130508.adc653-3] (no packageset)
[04:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: dasher [powerpc] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [4.11+git20130508.adc653-3] (no packageset)
[04:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: dasher [armhf] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [4.11+git20130508.adc653-3] (no packageset)
[04:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: dasher [arm64] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [4.11+git20130508.adc653-3] (no packageset)
[04:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted dasher [i386] (yakkety-proposed) [4.11+git20130508.adc653-3]
[04:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted dasher [s390x] (yakkety-proposed) [4.11+git20130508.adc653-3]
[04:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted dasher [ppc64el] (yakkety-proposed) [4.11+git20130508.adc653-3]
[04:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted dasher [amd64] (yakkety-proposed) [4.11+git20130508.adc653-3]
[04:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted dasher [armhf] (yakkety-proposed) [4.11+git20130508.adc653-3]
[04:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted dasher [arm64] (yakkety-proposed) [4.11+git20130508.adc653-3]
[04:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted dasher [powerpc] (yakkety-proposed) [4.11+git20130508.adc653-3]
[05:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: tcpdump (yakkety-proposed/main) [4.7.4-1ubuntu1 => 4.7.4-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (core)
[05:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: apparmor (yakkety-proposed/main) [2.10.95-4ubuntu5 => 2.10.95-4ubuntu5.1] (core)
[05:08] <sakrecoer> pitti, santa_ any chance we can haz calligra accepted? its apretty central piece to Ubuntu Studio..
[05:10]  * sakrecoer winks with eye lashes.
[05:11] <sakrecoer> also, greetings everyone! we are almost there!
[05:12]  * sakrecoer chants a cover of infinity 's smash hit 'freesoftware song, swedish chef remix'
[05:13] <sakrecoer> just, you know, to cheer :)
[05:18] <tyhicks> those tcpdump and apparmor uploads are intended to be SRUs
[05:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop powerpc [Yakkety Final] has been updated (20161013)
[05:49] <pitti> sakrecoer: absolutely, thanks for fixing!
[05:49] <pitti> Good morning
[05:49] <pitti> est-ce qu'on est déjà là ? :)
[05:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted calligra [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1:2.9.11-0ubuntu1]
[05:51] <slangasek> moi non plus
[05:51] <pitti> now that britney has a freeze block I'll process the uploads for the urgent SRUs
[05:54] <santa_> sakrecoer: we (=kubuntu's team) uploaded it, so now it's up to the release team to accept it
[05:57] <sakrecoer> \o/ thank you pitti and santa_ :) indeed i didn't fixed much, just cheered and crossed my fingers :)
[05:57] <slangasek> santa_, sakrecoer: that's more than a little late for reintroducing a package. what are you looking for here? reintroduce calligra, reupload ubuntustudio-meta, respin images?
[05:58] <sakrecoer> slangasek: just hopeing for the best really, i thibk you are a better judge at what is possible than me ...
[05:59] <sakrecoer> ultimately, the wish is to have krita back...
[05:59] <sakrecoer> but maybe we can push it in via some SRU? my experience isn't the greatest in these things..
[05:59] <santa_> slangasek: about kubuntu it's not on the iso, so no need to respin ours. from a kubuntu's point of view getting it in -updates would be enough
[06:00] <santa_> slangasek: the thing with calligra was that it was blocking the migration of the last kde bits in -proposed, so we agreed to demote it to -proposed only to upload later a fixed version
[06:00] <pitti> slangasek: when I demoted, calligra was not on any image, so that seemed like the best way forward
[06:01] <slangasek> pitti: but in fact it is seeded on ubuntustudio AFAICS?
[06:02] <pitti> seeded-in-ubuntu said no, hmm
[06:03] <sakrecoer> pitti, slangasek, yes this cycle its been going back and forth.. but we sure seeded until  alpha 1 i think, then got back in for beta2..
[06:03] <pitti> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.yakkety/revision/1499
[06:03] <pitti> indeed, krita is on studio
[06:03] <slangasek> sakrecoer: we can estimate 2h for it to finish building on all architectures; then, assuming we unblock it ahead of time and it makes its way straight into the release pocket, assume about an hour and a half for that to publish; then a reupload of ubuntustudio-meta, which will take another 1.5h to publish to the release pocket; then another hour for the image respin
[06:04] <slangasek> sakrecoer: so if we put this back into the release pocket, you wouldn't even have final images for testing until ~5h from now
[06:04] <sakrecoer> slangasek: ok... i'm not sure how we are looking in terms of available testers...
[06:05] <sakrecoer> is there any chance to have it back in during the way to 17.04?
[06:05] <pitti> seems safer to just not put it into the default install IMHO -- upgrades will get it from -updates, and new installs can just install it afterwards?
[06:05] <sakrecoer> i mean have it in 16.10 for some update (uneducated question sorry)
[06:05] <pitti> sakrecoer: sure, it would almost automatically be back on 17.04, unless it starts FTBFSing again
[06:06] <pitti> (i. e. the next really interesting target is 18.04 LTS)
[06:06] <slangasek> pitti: in that case, we probably want to add a block hint for calligra now, so it doesn't auto-migrate?
[06:06] <slangasek> (and leave inconsistency between ubuntustudio-meta and calligra in the release pocket)
[06:07] <pitti> agreed; adding one
[06:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-settings-daemon [source] (yakkety-proposed) [3.22.1-0ubuntu1]
[06:08] <sakrecoer> thank you guys! sending you loads of power and good energy... need drop out for work now... coffe cup salute!
[06:08] <sakrecoer> o/
[06:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected mate-optimus [source] (yakkety-proposed) [16.10.1-0ubuntu1]
[06:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted initramfs-tools [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.122ubuntu8.4]
[06:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted initramfs-tools [source] (yakkety-proposed) [0.125ubuntu6]
[06:15] <infinity> slangasek: The other option is to let calligra slide in but not update meta until post-release.
[06:16] <infinity> (And fix the seed to make it not be there now, and be there later)
[06:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted webkit2gtk [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2.14.1-0ubuntu1]
[06:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted hardinfo [source] (yakkety-proposed) [0.5.1-1.4ubuntu3]
[06:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-mate-welcome [source] (yakkety-proposed) [16.10.11]
[06:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted evolution [source] (yakkety-proposed) [3.22.1-0ubuntu1]
[06:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted apparmor [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2.10.95-4ubuntu5.1]
[06:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted tcpdump [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4.7.4-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[06:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-software [source] (yakkety-proposed) [3.20.1+git20161013.0.d77d6cf-0ubuntu1]
[06:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected mate-netbook [sync] (yakkety-proposed) [1.16.1-1]
[06:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected mate-terminal [sync] (yakkety-proposed) [1.16.1-1]
[06:31] <pitti> flexiondotorg: ^ sorry aobut the three rejections, I left comments in the mail
[06:33] <ginggs> slangasek: re openfoam, i don't know what you are asking
[06:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openfoam [amd64] (yakkety-proposed) [4.0+dfsg1-3ubuntu1]
[06:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: calligra [powerpc] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1:2.9.11-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[06:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: calligra [s390x] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1:2.9.11-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[06:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: calligra [ppc64el] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1:2.9.11-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[06:53] <pitti> sakrecoer: ^ ☺
[06:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu GNOME Desktop amd64 [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[06:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu GNOME Desktop i386 [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[06:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: nvidia-cuda-toolkit [ppc64el] (yakkety-proposed/multiverse) [8.0.44-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[07:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-multi-writer (yakkety-proposed/universe) [3.22.0-1 => 3.22.1-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[07:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-multi-writer [sync] (yakkety-proposed) [3.22.1-1]
[07:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: calligra [i386] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1:2.9.11-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:15] <apw> ginggs, "lintian --no-tag-display-limit --show-overrides ~/Downloads/libopenfoam_4.0+dfsg1-3ubuntu1_amd64.deb" shows 107 libraries with dodgy names ... slangasek is asking if those errors are in Debian as well ...
[07:15] <apw> ginggs, also did you notive it is ftbfs on a number of architectures
[07:18] <ginggs> apw: yes, i see it FTBFS on 32-bits, there's a bug in Debian about that, but i don't think it is high priority - not many people want to do CFD on 32-bit archs
[07:20] <ginggs> apw: i assume those errors are in Debian as well, since the lintian-overrides was done in the debian packaging - all i did was reduce the number of parallel processes used during the build to prevent the OOM on our amd64 buildds
[07:22] <apw> slangasek, ^
[07:22] <pitti> ISO testing is outright boring -- in the good sense
[07:23] <pitti> it seems even qemu/plymouth/kernel etc. learned to deal with the graphical "encrypted partition unlock" input now \o/
[07:23]  * apw shakes pitti to wake him from his pleasant dream
[07:23] <pitti> I was positively surprised :) plymouth and cryptsetup hadn't been friends until xenial at least
[07:24] <pitti> my bet is actually on qemu (needed to re-test xenial for that, but *shrug*)
[07:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: nvidia-cuda-toolkit [amd64] (yakkety-proposed/multiverse) [8.0.44-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[07:25] <pitti> meh, discovered an OEM setup bug, shouldn't have said that
[07:26] <infinity> pitti: jderose is usually on top of finding all of those long before release, did you do something weird?
[07:26] <pitti> infinity: I did an OEM install in German, and then selected French during oem-config (after install)
[07:27] <pitti> but /etc/default/locale and the desktop is still German
[07:27] <infinity> Oh, curious.
[07:27] <infinity> That might go back to xenial and my locales changes.
[07:27] <pitti> the French locale actually got created
[07:27] <infinity> Seems more likely than ubiquity suddenly changing behaviour.
[07:27]  * pitti files a bug
[07:28] <infinity> pitti: Betting it's not a yakkety regression, anyway.
[07:28] <infinity> (but sub me to the bug)
[07:29] <pitti> err, wait -- now after another reboot it's actually better
[07:30] <pitti> locale is now a wild mix, though
[07:30] <pitti> so just "differently broken"
[07:30] <flocculant> pitti: Gerch or Freman?
[07:30] <pitti> c'est eine étrange Sprache
[07:31] <flocculant> Dutch then ...
[07:35] <ginggs> would someone please process nvidia-cuda-toolkit through NEW?  I need these in -proposed so I can upload the four rdeps.
[07:41] <pitti> infinity: bug 1632978, also linked from the ISO tracker
[07:52] <pitti> acheronuk, sakrecoer: do you know, is someone testing kubuntu/i386?
[07:53] <acheronuk> pitti: I could do, but only in virtualbox
[07:54] <pitti> that's fine I think (maybe you can try the live system on a real machine)
[07:56] <acheronuk> zsyncin....
[07:57] <acheronuk> +g om that :P
[07:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: calligra [armhf] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1:2.9.11-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[07:57] <acheronuk> ok. need more coffee while that is doing, clearly!
[07:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nvidia-cuda-toolkit [amd64] (yakkety-proposed) [8.0.44-0ubuntu1]
[07:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nvidia-cuda-toolkit [ppc64el] (yakkety-proposed) [8.0.44-0ubuntu1]
[08:02] <pitti> infinity: need a hand with testing the "ubuntu base" tarballs, or will you do this with some script again?
[08:03] <infinity> pitti: I'll sort them.
[08:10] <ppisati_> infinity: FYI - Ubuntu Base armhf are 404s now (albeit a link is there)
[08:10] <ppisati_> e.g. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily/20161012/yakkety-core-armhf.tar.gz
[08:11] <infinity> s/core/base/
[08:11] <infinity> I guess no one updated the tracker URLs.
[08:11]  * infinity shrugs.
[08:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: calligra [amd64] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1:2.9.11-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[08:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: calligra [arm64] (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1:2.9.11-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[08:27]  * Laney eyes pending & current
[08:27] <Laney> amd64 is old
[08:29] <Laney> jibel: ^- hey, can you do the stab again please?
[08:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (xenial-proposed/main) [4.4.0-43.63] (core, kernel)
[08:34] <Laney> ppisati_: Fixed those for you
[08:35] <Laney> Weird
[08:36] <Laney> Urgh, you have to do every arch separately
[08:36] <ppisati_> Laney: uhm. not really
[08:36] <jibel> Laney, done, it'll be updated soon
[08:37] <Laney> ppisati_: 33 seconds too late
[08:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (xenial-proposed) [4.4.0-43.63]
[08:38] <ppisati_> Laney: ok, but now there's no download link anymore
[08:38] <Laney> Wait.
[08:38]  * ppisati_ waits
[08:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: eztrace-contrib (yakkety-proposed/multiverse) [1.1-2-1ubuntu1 => 1.1-2-1ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[08:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted eztrace-contrib [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1.1-2-1ubuntu2]
[08:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: hwloc-contrib (yakkety-proposed/multiverse) [1.11.3-2 => 1.11.3-2build1] (no packageset)
[08:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: starpu-contrib (yakkety-proposed/multiverse) [1.1.5-0ubuntu6 => 1.1.5-0ubuntu7] (no packageset)
[08:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted hwloc-contrib [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1.11.3-2build1]
[08:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted starpu-contrib [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1.1.5-0ubuntu7]
[08:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: pycuda (yakkety-proposed/multiverse) [2016.1-1build2 => 2016.1.2+git20160809-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[08:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pycuda [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2016.1.2+git20160809-1ubuntu1]
[08:48] <Laney> ppisati_: Try now, and give me a link to the page showing the bad link if you find something wrong please
[08:51] <ppisati_> Laney: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/368/builds/133154/downloads
[08:51] <ppisati_> Laney: i don't see any download link
[08:51] <ppisati_> Laney: only a grey line
[08:52] <Laney> That's netboot, where you asked about base.
[08:53] <ppisati_> Laney: you are right, base works now
[09:03] <infinity> There, base testing done on all arches.
[09:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base amd64 [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[09:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base arm64 [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[09:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base armhf [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[09:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base i386 [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[09:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base powerpc [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[09:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base ppc64el [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[09:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base s390x [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[09:06] <Laney> Glad we touched base
[09:07] <infinity> *groan*
[09:08] <apw> ugg
[09:14] <willcooke> hold tight for netsplit
[10:16] <flexiondotorg> infinity, I see the various powerpc builds have all been disabled.
[10:16] <flexiondotorg> Why?
[10:16] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Because the installed systems don't boot.
[10:16] <infinity> flexiondotorg: And I have exactly zero time to fix it.  Though I have a handle on why.
[10:16] <flexiondotorg> That is a know issue with a documented workaround though right.
[10:16] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Err, it's really not?
[10:16] <flexiondotorg> Manually partition and create an ext2/ boot.
[10:16] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Oh, yes.  That would indeed work.
[10:16] <infinity> flexiondotorg: But also gross.  And not the right solution.
[10:16] <infinity> flexiondotorg: (If this was known, how long was it known, and why didn't anyone poke me?) :P
[10:16] <infinity> Had I investigated weeks ago instead of this morning, I could have fixed it.
[10:16] <infinity> flexiondotorg: I guess your call if you want to release your PPC image with a big release note about the workaround.  But it also has no testing so far.
[10:17] <flexiondotorg> infinity, I have release noted it.
[10:17] <flexiondotorg> The few Ubuntu MATE PowerPC users are aware of the issue.
[10:17] <flexiondotorg> I got poked about it last night.
[10:18] <flexiondotorg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1606089
[10:18] <flexiondotorg> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1607128
[10:19] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Right, so I wish someone had escalated those to me, but oh well.
[10:19] <infinity> flexiondotorg: It's actually a change in mke2fs that creates filesystems in a yaboot-incompatible way by default now.
[10:20] <infinity> flexiondotorg: So, a different workaround would be to let partman create the normal layout you want, then shell out, fix the root filesystem, then do the install.
[10:20] <flexiondotorg> I don't do the PowerPC testing anymore. There are three guys in the community do that now.
[10:20] <flexiondotorg> My release note says manually partition and create an ext2 /boot.
[10:21] <infinity> Yeah, which is icky.
[10:21] <infinity> And /boot partitions lead to pepole crying about them being too small, filling up with kernels, etc.
[10:21] <flexiondotorg> Yeah, but most PowerPC users are used to tweaking things to get a working system.
[10:22] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Alright, well, if we re-enable that ISO, will it have tests registered in the next hour, and someone signing off on it?
[10:22] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Cause up until now, it had zero tests.
[10:22] <flexiondotorg> I specify creating a 1GB ext /boot.
[10:22] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Which sort of implied no one cared, or they were blocked by the boot bug.
[10:22] <flexiondotorg> Well, all the other images were tested up until the respin last night.
[10:23] <flexiondotorg> As in, the other powerpc images for this final have been tested.
[10:23] <infinity> Anyhow, I recall lubuntu mentioning something about only doing PPC for LTS, so happy to keep theirs disabled.
[10:23] <flexiondotorg> The powerpc guys have simply been using the workaround I described.
[10:23] <flexiondotorg> And marking the bug about extire disk not work.
[10:24] <infinity> flexiondotorg: So, where is this release note?
[10:24] <flexiondotorg> It goes up on ubuntu-mate.org when the images are released.
[10:25] <flexiondotorg> The wiki references the correct page.
[10:25] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Oh.  Can it be under the boot/install section of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes ?
[10:25] <flexiondotorg> Sure.
[10:25] <infinity> flexiondotorg: (Both if you like, but it's an arch problem, not a flavour problem)
[10:25] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Alright.  Assuming someone will smoketest that PPC ISO, I'll reenable it.
[10:26] <infinity> Not releasing it without someone saying that exact stream of bits does something useful though.
[10:26] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Am doing...
[10:26] <infinity> And lemme try a workaround install of server.
[10:29] <willcooke> flexiondotorg, poke me when you're done editing release notes, I have some changes to make too
[10:32] <flexiondotorg> k
[10:33]  * flexiondotorg waits for wiki to auth me...
[10:42] <flexiondotorg> infinity, willcooke Release notes added.
[10:42] <willcooke> thanks flexiondotorg
[10:42] <willcooke> made my change and savd
[10:42] <willcooke> saved
[10:42] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Confirming your workaround on server as well.
[10:51] <infinity> flexiondotorg: So, the workaround is incomplete.  One also needs to move /etc/yaboot.conf to /boot/etc/yaboot.conf and symlink it back.
[10:51] <infinity> But once that's done, it's all good.
[10:52]  * flexiondotorg updates wiki...
[10:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server powerpc [Yakkety Final] has been updated (20161012.1)
[10:56] <Laney> Someone's saved an edit conflict
[11:01] <davmor2> Laney: damn was it mine sorry if so
[11:02] <Laney> I'll fix it when the lock is released if nobody else does
[11:02] <Laney> Nae bother
[11:04] <flexiondotorg> Laney, I'm fixing.
[11:05] <Laney> ta
[11:11]  * tsimonq2 hands out cups of coffee to people passing by
[11:11] <flocculant> flexiondotorg: can you change xubuntu note url to https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-16-10-release while there
[11:11] <flexiondotorg> flocculant, Sure.
[11:11] <flocculant> bah - meant Laney who has lock :p
[11:12] <Laney> I'll be done in a minute
[11:21] <Laney> flocculant: go
[11:21] <Laney> davmor2: bug links for those bugs appreciated
[11:21] <davmor2> Laney: they were in there
[11:21] <davmor2> Laney: bracketed at the end
[11:22] <Laney> not in my browser they weren't
[11:22] <Laney> wait
[11:22] <Laney> not you :P
[11:23] <Laney> willcooke: that's you ^- can we have bug links for the two unity 8 things please?
[11:24] <flocculant> Laney: thanks - all done
[11:25] <willcooke> Laney, ack
[11:25] <willcooke> Laney, you want them here, or shall I just edit when you are done?
[11:25] <Laney> I'm out already
[11:25] <flocculant> willcooke: so am I
[11:26] <willcooke> done one, doing the other in a sec
[11:31] <willcooke> done
[11:34] <Laney> win
[11:41] <infinity> willcooke: You happy with signing off on ubuntu-desktop?
[11:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: magnum (yakkety-proposed/universe) [3.1.1-0 => 3.1.1-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[11:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Kylin Desktop amd64 [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[11:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Kylin Desktop i386 [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[11:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server amd64 [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[11:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server arm64 [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[11:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server i386 [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[11:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server powerpc [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[11:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server ppc64el [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[11:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server s390x [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[11:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[11:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop i386 [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[11:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted magnum [sync] (yakkety-proposed) [3.1.1-1]
[11:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu MATE Desktop amd64 [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[11:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu MATE Desktop i386 [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[11:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu MATE Desktop powerpc [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[11:47] <willcooke> infinity, sure
[11:47]  * Laney has marked them
[11:48] <willcooke> ah, thanks Laney
[11:48] <Laney> willcooke: no problemo!
[11:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[11:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop i386 [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[11:53] <willcooke> \o/
[11:57] <infinity> sewaddle: We'll probably be at least another hour or two while the mirror world settles, but we're approaching That Time.
[11:57] <infinity> sewaddle: Will ping harder when we're closer, but here's your "between 1 and 3 hours, ish" countdown. :P
[11:58] <sewaddle> excellent infinity
[12:01] <apw> infinity, we gained some new NBS are we ok to rip that still ?
[12:02]  * Laney zaps the auto-accept bot
[12:14] <infinity> apw: Yes.
[12:14] <apw> infinity, zapping
[13:07] <cyphermox> morning. what have I missed?
[13:07] <pitti> apw: wow, how did that creep in
[13:09] <infinity> cyphermox: We decided to delay the release for a week and it's all because your packages suck.
[13:09] <cyphermox> zomg!
[13:09] <cyphermox> which packages exactly?
[13:09] <infinity> All of them.
[13:09] <cyphermox> oh noes!
[13:09] <infinity> Anything you've ever uploaded.
[13:09] <cyphermox> :'(
[13:10] <cyphermox> heh.
[13:11] <mdeslaur> hehehe
[13:15] <cyphermox> infinity: can I turn off the powerpc space heater in my office now or do you need it?
[13:17] <infinity> cyphermox: I'm good, you can cut the power.
[13:17] <davmor2> cyphermox: love it the powerpc space heater :D
[13:18] <cyphermox> davmor2: it's not even a joke.
[13:18] <cyphermox> this G5 has been running under my desk all night, the room's door was closed to avoid the cat destroying everything in the room, and it was very noticeably much hotter in the room than everywhere else
[13:19] <davmor2> cyphermox: hahaha I believe you my first home server to play with was a power it eat power I think that is how it got it's name ;)
[13:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: preseed (trusty-proposed/main) [1.62ubuntu1 => 1.62ubuntu1.1] (core)
[13:29] <sewaddle> infinity: how are things?
[13:30] <infinity> sewaddle: Thingeriffic.
[13:31] <infinity> sewaddle: Waiting on Spads to finish cloudfronting and giving mirrors a bit more catch-up time, but we could be there in 30-60m, I'd say.
[13:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: maas (yakkety-proposed/main) [2.1.0~beta2+bzr5454-0ubuntu1 => 2.1.0~rc1+bzr5480-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-server)
[13:31] <infinity> sewaddle: How much time do you need to do your thing (or rather, how long will it take once I say "go")?
[13:31] <sewaddle> infinity: 20 mins
[13:32] <cyphermox> infinity: hold on, we have the new shim, we should respin the world!
[13:32] <infinity> sewaddle: Alrighty.  Then I won't say go yet. ;)
[13:32] <infinity> sewaddle: But we're nearly there.
[13:32] <cyphermox> (and I'm obviously not serious)
[13:32] <willcooke> sewaddle, would you give me a poke when things are live too, I have some marketing stuff to make live
[13:33] <infinity> sewaddle: Please print my photo from the directory and splash some wine on it in the break room after we release.
[13:33] <willcooke> or I'll just watching here
[13:35] <sewaddle> will - no problem
[13:35] <sewaddle> infinity: printing
[13:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: maas (yakkety-proposed/main) [2.1.0~beta2+bzr5454-0ubuntu1 => 2.1.0+bzr5480-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-server)
[13:41] <roaksoax> Hi release team! I was wondering if someone would be so kind to process https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/maas/+bug/1633064 for 0-day SRU
[13:44] <pitti> roaksoax: I suppose I can reject your rc1 upload from 13 minutes ago and just look at the one from 3 mins ago?
[13:50] <roaksoax> pitti: yes please
[13:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected maas [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2.1.0~rc1+bzr5480-0ubuntu1]
[13:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qtbase-opensource-src [sync] (xenial-proposed) [5.5.1+dfsg-16ubuntu7.2]
[13:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted apparmor [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.10.95-0ubuntu2.5]
[13:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted im-config [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.29-1ubuntu12.2]
[13:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libsmbios [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.3.0-0ubuntu1.1]
[13:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-release-upgrader [source] (xenial-proposed) [1:16.04.17]
[14:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lxcfs [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.0.4-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.1]
[14:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lxc [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.0.5-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.1]
[14:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lxd [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.0.5-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.1]
[14:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted casper [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.376.2]
[14:04] <pitti> roaksoax: hm, this takes a fair while to get diffy..
[14:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted unattended-upgrades [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.90ubuntu0.1]
[14:05] <flexiondotorg> Oh ,have you heard - http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/10/download-ubuntu-16-10-new-features
[14:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted icinga [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.13.3-2ubuntu0.1]
[14:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted update-notifier [source] (xenial-proposed) [3.168.2]
[14:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted zabbix [source] (xenial-proposed) [1:2.4.7+dfsg-2ubuntu2.1]
[14:09] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Yeah, responsible journalism hard at work.
[14:10] <flexiondotorg> http://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/10/13/canonical-releases-ubuntu-16-10/
[14:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted preseed [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.71ubuntu1.1]
[14:10] <infinity> Though that one's more annoying. :P
[14:10] <apw> you know those are all "at 15:00 post"
[14:11] <apw> and if pitti accepts that maas it will be wrong on the first line :)
[14:12] <pitti> diff just came in, looking at it as we speak
[14:12] <pitti> in the meantime I slaughtered the xenial queue :)
[14:12] <infinity> pitti: My hero.
[14:12] <pitti> I left juju-core as that'll take some more concentration/commitment to do (debconf stuff etc.)
[14:12] <pitti> (have at it if you like)
[14:13] <infinity> I've been up since before you, I think I'm about ready to have a release party and get drunk.
[14:13] <cjwatson> apw: well, yakkety already has 2.1.0~beta2 ...
[14:13] <roaksoax> pitti: hehe i think it is up now :)
[14:13] <apw> heh so it does, so oops
[14:14] <pitti> infinity: oh, I didn't specifically mean you
[14:14] <pitti> in fact I'm inclined to NOT let you review it today ;)
[14:14] <pitti> infinity: sounds like an excellent plan
[14:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted maas [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2.1.0+bzr5480-0ubuntu1]
[14:14] <infinity> What's the current openstack release?
[14:15] <infinity> Newton.
[14:15] <pitti> The Unapproved queue is empty. /me bows
[14:16] <infinity> pitti: I find the easiest way to do that is to reject everything.
[14:16] <pitti> flexiondotorg: did you see the three rejects?
[14:16] <Laney> We should think about seeding via s3 for a bit in future
[14:16] <pitti> flexiondotorg: (just making sure that the email based process works)
[14:16] <Laney> Some of these things I'm testing are c-r-a-w-l-i-n-g
[14:16] <flexiondotorg> I saw mate-optimus this morning.
[14:16]  * apw hands pitti a double gold star
[14:16] <pitti> infinity: "if it was REALLY important, it'll come back"
[14:16] <flexiondotorg> That has since been uploaded to Debian. Wait to sync.
[14:16] <apw> pitti, did you reap new too ?
[14:17] <cjwatson> queue reject -s yakkety -Q unapproved -m bored
[14:17] <pitti> flexiondotorg: no, I rejected two syncs because these are NOT appropriate for SRUs
[14:17] <apw> :)
[14:17] <pitti> TGIRD
[14:17] <flexiondotorg> mate-netbook references a an SRY formatted bug.
[14:17] <flexiondotorg> *SRU
[14:18] <flexiondotorg> But no, I didn't get email about mate-terminal or mate-netbook.
[14:20] <pitti> hm, I thought sync rejects would send mail too -- anyway, reason was "no referenced SRU bug"
[14:22] <infinity> budgie-desktop-environment in NEW two days before release.
[14:22] <infinity> Yeah, that seems unlikely.
[14:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: evolution (yakkety-proposed/universe) [3.22.1-0ubuntu1 => 3.22.1-0ubuntu2] (ubuntugnome, ubuntukylin)
[14:24] <pitti> this is like whack-a-mole :) ^
[14:24] <pitti> (will look at it once it becomes diffy)
[14:26] <flexiondotorg> New upstream bug fix release.
[14:26] <flexiondotorg>     - Fix broken mate-window-picker-applet. (LP: #1608710).
[14:26] <flexiondotorg> pitti, mate-netbook sync has that ^^ in the changelog.     Web team's doing webby things, I'll be mailing the official announce in 10 or 20m.
[14:56] <bdmurray> infinity: Shall I take of the metarelease file or is somebody else doing that?
[14:56] <infinity> bdmurray: Happy to leave metarelease to you.
[14:56] <Odd_Bloke> infinity: Danke.
[14:57] <infinity> bdmurray: You can give it the ol' swapperoo in 30+ mins (or later, if you prefer breakfast)
[14:57] <bdmurray> infinity: Mmm, bacon
[14:57] <infinity> I just had bacon.
[14:59] <sewaddle> infinity: and willcooke just deploying
[14:59] <xnox> now i want bacon
[14:59] <sewaddle> (the final step)
[14:59] <willcooke>  sewaddle ta
[15:00] <sewaddle> and we are live
[15:00] <willcooke> \o/
[15:00] <willcooke> thanks sewaddle
[15:01] <willcooke> and thanks infinity - rockin as always
[15:02] <infinity> sewaddle: Oo.
[15:02]  * infinity goes to click around a bit.
[15:03] <acheronuk> :)
[15:04] <sewaddle> infinity: we are fixing the torrent thing
[15:05]  * bdmurray discovers he's out of bacon
[15:07] <infinity> bdmurray: Is life even worth living at that point?
[15:17]  * rbasak thought he left a while ago
[15:18] <mdeslaur> congrats release team!
[15:19] <acheronuk> infinity: some things are worse than just 'no bacon' http://i.imgur.com/JU3VVKO.png
[15:19]  * acheronuk shudders
[15:19] <infinity> acheronuk: I honestly don't get the point.
[15:20] <acheronuk> me neither
[15:20] <infinity> acheronuk: No fake bacon can live up to bacon, so why try?  Find a tasty vegetable to enjoy instead if you don't eat meat.
[15:20]  * acheronuk nods
[15:22] <Laney> Sosssssssssssssages
[15:23] <acheronuk> mmmm....
[15:26] <xnox> acheronuk, https://img.rt.com/files/2016.09/original/57d30d4ac36188df388b4677.jpg tea in a can
[15:26] <xnox> acheronuk, microwave fondue http://www.packworld.com/sites/default/files/styles/lightbox/public/field/image/emmi_fondu_tulip_karton_400g_usa.jpg?itok=9Rfs8U1Y
[15:26] <infinity> And yakkety is closed in LP.
[15:26] <xnox> X-Ubuntu: Brought to you by The Royal Canadian Kilted Yaksmen
[15:27] <cjwatson> never tried quorn bacon, don't really want to.  halloumi is a much better substitute.
[15:27] <infinity> xnox: You're too young for the reference.
[15:27] <apw> infinity, ^5
[15:28] <xnox> cjwatson, i bought quorn something, but i was scared to actually eat it, i think i still have in my freezer.
[15:28]  * xnox ponders if i should get rid of it
[15:28] <apw> xnox, mostly tasteless, takes on flavours well though
[15:28] <cjwatson> lots of quorn stuff is OK.
[15:29] <acheronuk> I always pity the sailors on http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/quorn
[15:30] <cjwatson> not really a good taste substitute but it haelps with texture.
[15:30] <cjwatson> anyway, well done on release, I've had the luxury of mostly ignoring this one :)
[15:31] <acheronuk> thank you very much to the all the release team for your help BTW :)
[15:31] <pitti> I'll have a beer tonight to celebrate, although singing Yak(k)ety Yak in our Italian place might appear a little strange
[15:33]  * Laney looks forward to breaking zygotic
[15:35] <pitti> Laney: sorry, don't get it -- you want to damage a cell?
[15:35] <Laney> Eh?
[15:35] <Laney> I was just guessing what the adjective would be...
[15:36] <infinity> Zany!
[15:36] <flexiondotorg> zealous
[15:36] <infinity> Oh, flexiondotorg might actually be right.
[15:36] <infinity> That's a good Markish adjective.
[15:36] <Laney> Say it as loudly as possible to remove it from the running
[15:37] <flexiondotorg> A Zealous Zebu what make GNU happy.
[15:37] <flexiondotorg> Personally, I would like to see a Zesty Zorro.
[15:37] <Laney> echo "Zealous Zebra" | mail -s ZZ<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:38] <flexiondotorg> So we can once again bust out the rightful heir of the Linux mascot.
[15:40] <infinity> ZOMG it's a Zebra!
[15:40] <infinity> With the upload target mandatory as all-caps, or it rejects.
[15:40] <jbicha> znappy
[15:40] <infinity> zoinks?
[15:40] <infinity> Anyhow.  I'm going to go remind myself what sunlight looks like.
[15:41] <Laney> Grey.
[15:41] <Laney> Filtered by clouds.
[15:41] <infinity> Or, looking out the window, I'm going to remind myself what clouds look like...
[15:41] <infinity> But maybe breathe some fresh air while I do so.
[15:43] <tsimonq2> I want Zealous Zebu :P
[15:45] <tsimonq2> infinity: when Mark announces, I call dibs on creating the wiki pages
[15:45] <infinity> tsimonq2: Knock yourself out.
[15:46] <tsimonq2> I did it for the last three releases and want to make it 4 :P
[15:49] <roaksoax> pitti: so I think all bugs are verification-done now. When should we expect it landing in -updates ?
[15:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-software (yakkety-proposed/main) [3.20.1+git20161013.0.d77d6cf-0ubuntu1 => 3.20.1+git20161013.0.d77d6cf-0ubuntu2] (ubuntu-desktop)
[15:58] <pitti> roaksoax: that confused me -- the verification was done even before the package was actually available on archive.u.c. in -proposed
[15:58] <pitti> roaksoax: does that verification step actually use those, or some PPA? (it smells like the latteR)
[16:01] <Laney> Mmm
[16:01] <Laney> That's going to be a component-mismatch ^-
[16:02] <Laney> Is there a procedure for handling that in an SRU?
[16:03] <roaksoax> pitti: we have PPA, the same package uploaded to -proposed is uploaded to a PPA
[16:04] <roaksoax> pitti: the only thing that differs is the changelog, since I fix the changelog for Ubuntu
[16:04] <roaksoax> https://launchpad.net/~maas/+archive/ubuntu/next/
[16:13] <infinity> roaksoax: But part of the verification procedure is verfying the binaries in the archive are correct.
[16:14] <infinity> roaksoax: Pre-verifying a different build doesn't do that.
[16:15] <roaksoax> infinity: ok, let me do that now
[16:15] <infinity> Laney: MIR for snapd-glib, mention it's not just for the devel series but also retroactive to yakkety (and xenial, if that's also a target), get it approved the usual way, then we can copy from yakkety/universe to yakkety-updates/main
[16:16] <Laney> infinity: It is MIRed
[16:16] <infinity> Laney: So, skip ahead to "get it approved, then..."
[16:16] <Laney> Copy that shizzle
[16:17] <infinity> Laney: Ahh, it was already approved.  Check.
[16:17] <infinity> Laney: Shame it wasn't promoted before I closed the archive.
[16:18] <infinity> Actually.
[16:18] <infinity> I could reopen, promote, and close. :P
[16:18] <infinity> cjwatson: It's not harmful to revert from stable to frozen (assuming no new series yet), is it?
[16:19] <roaksoax> infinity: binaries verfied
[16:19] <infinity> roaksoax: Tell pitti. :)
[16:19] <roaksoax> pitti: ^^ binaries verified ::)
[16:20] <infinity> Laney: Meh, I'll just copy it.
[16:20] <infinity> Not in the mood to sort out if it's harmful to hack it up in release.
[16:20] <cjwatson> infinity: Should be OK, I think.
[16:20] <infinity> "I think"
[16:20] <Laney> infinity: Ya. I think that's easiest.
[16:20] <cjwatson> Not something we test a whole lot. :-P
[16:20] <infinity> cjwatson: I won't bother risking it.
[16:20] <cjwatson> Sensible.
[16:21] <infinity> Laney: Any idea which binaries actually need promoting?
[16:22] <infinity> Laney: Guessing libsnapd-glib-dev libsnapd-glib1
[16:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd-glib (yakkety-updates/universe) [1.2-0ubuntu1 => 1.2-0ubuntu1] (no packageset) (sync)
[16:23] <Laney> infinity: source libsnapd-glib-dev libsnapd-glib1
[16:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted snapd-glib [sync] (yakkety-updates) [1.2-0ubuntu1]
[16:24] <infinity> Laney: Done.
[16:25] <Laney> Ta
[16:25] <infinity> Laney: Your SRU lacks a bug ref.
[16:26] <Laney> I -ved it
[16:27] <Laney> Description: Doesn't build. Verification: Check it builds.
[16:27] <Laney> :P
[16:27] <infinity> Ahh.
[16:27] <bluesabre> Very concise. :)
[16:28] <Laney> Then EVERY bug is a regression from the bug-free state of the previous upload
[16:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-software [source] (yakkety-proposed) [3.20.1+git20161013.0.d77d6cf-0ubuntu2]
[16:31] <infinity> Laney: ^
[16:32] <Laney> infinity: The Snap installing masses thank you
[17:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Yakkety Final] has been marked as ready
[17:03] <bdmurray> Apt in trusty-proposed has an armhf test failure but this doesn't seem to be new.  http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/a/apt/trusty/armhf Should this have a bad test hint then?
[17:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mate-netbook (yakkety-proposed/universe) [1.16.0-1 => 1.16.1-1] (ubuntu-mate) (sync)
[17:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: 41 entries have been added, updated or disabled
[17:09] <flocculant> infinity et al - thanks for everything
[17:09] <infinity> Al did most of the work.
[17:10]  * flocculant is taking a rest from pointlessly asking people to test things for xubuntu, so next cycle akxwi-dave will be the one doing milestoney things :)
[17:13] <bdmurray> infinity: Would you want a bug for this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/23319009/
[17:14] <infinity> bdmurray: I don't want any bugs for anything.
[17:14] <infinity> bdmurray: Oh derp.  No, that doesn't need a bug, IMO.
[17:15] <infinity> bdmurray: Just fix it, and we'll jam it through.
[17:15] <infinity> bdmurray: I'll review, you can self-release it after you've verified.
[17:15] <infinity> (Because I'll be asleep)
[17:15] <bdmurray> infinity: Sounds like a plan
[17:21] <infinity> bdmurray: Quick, before I fall asleep. :)
[17:22] <bdmurray> infinity: this prebuild script is slow...
[17:24] <infinity> bdmurray: Yeah, I probably wouldn't have run it for a string change.
[17:24] <bdmurray> infinity: well, it finished
[17:24] <infinity> \o/
[17:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-release-upgrader (yakkety-proposed/main) [1:16.10.6 => 1:16.10.7] (core)
[17:27] <infinity> bdmurray: Accepted, and napping.  Go ahead and sru-release when you're satisfied it didn't magically break somehow.
[17:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-release-upgrader [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1:16.10.7]
[17:28] <bdmurray> infinity: thanks
[18:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-release-upgrader (yakkety-updates/main) [1:16.10.7 => 1:16.10.7] (core) (sync)
[19:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: neutron (xenial-proposed/main) [2:8.2.0-0ubuntu1 => 2:8.3.0-0ubuntu1] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[19:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: neutron-lbaas (xenial-proposed/main) [2:8.2.0-0ubuntu1 => 2:8.3.0-0ubuntu1] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[19:38] <bdmurray> slangasek: Did you see my question about apt's autopackage test for trusty-proposed?
[19:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nova (xenial-proposed/main) [2:13.1.1-0ubuntu1.1 => 2:13.1.2-0ubuntu1] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[19:40] <slangasek> bdmurray: did, but assumed someone else had answered, sorry.  looking
[19:42] <slangasek> test-bug-717891-abolute-uris-for-proxies ... FAIL
[19:42] <slangasek> did it fail because spelling?
[19:43] <bdmurray> I was more looking at 2.12, 2.13, 2.14 having all made it into -updates
[19:43] <slangasek> indeed
[19:44] <slangasek> bdmurray: so the short answer is certainly "yes", but force-badtest gives me a sad so I was trying to figure out where to file the bug
[19:44] <bdmurray> slangasek: what gives you a sad? I thought this'd be a good teaching lesson for rbasak
[19:45] <slangasek> bdmurray: it gives me a sad when we have to add such hints, because any force-badtest'ed package is one that we no longer get test feedback on
[19:45] <slangasek> bdmurray: but it's still the correct thing to do here
[19:46] <slangasek> bdmurray: you'll add it to lp:~ubuntu-sru/britney/hints-ubuntu-trusty/ ?
[19:46] <bdmurray> slangasek: okay got it, I think I'll add it tomorrow when rbasak is on-line just so we can go over it
[19:47] <slangasek> bdmurray: and I say it's the right thing to do here because I've reviewed the test results, it's not a regression from previous uploads, and it's definitely a bug in the test itself (that we probably aren't going to take the time to fix for trusty)
[19:47] <slangasek> bdmurray: oh, and I have force-badtest hints for the two previous apt SRUs in my hint file ;)
[19:58] <bdmurray> slangasek: what part of the machinery is aware of the hints? maybe the pending report should mention theres a hint?
[20:24] <slangasek> bdmurray: proposed-migration knows about it, so update_excuses will show that the failure is ignored
[20:26] <bdmurray> slangasek: that's if you use the right version number though
[20:29] <bdmurray> slangasek: I didn't know there was hint for 2.14
[20:35] <tsimonq2> Wait, is Zany actually our next adjective?!?
[20:36] <wxl> tsimonq2: you know where to check, no?
[20:36] <tsimonq2> q
[20:37] <tsimonq2> wxl: Well I just don't know if they are informed earlier than us by Mark. :P
[20:38] <cjwatson> On occasions when the release team has been informed earlier, we've also generally been under pretty strict instructions not to leak it before Mark blogs.
[20:38] <cjwatson> So until you see either a blog post from Mark or an entry on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+series, you should assume that people are just making up placeholder names.
[20:39] <wxl>  1. nothing on mark's blog
[20:39] <wxl>  2. nothing on insight
[20:39]  * jderose rolls dice and murmurs, "come on Zany Zebra, come on Zany Zebra"
[20:40] <wxl>  3. series is still "z-series"
[20:40] <wxl> so: no.
[20:41] <bittin> o/
[20:42] <wxl> where's the wiki page with all the suggestions?
[20:43] <wxl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames
[20:43] <bittin> updating to Yakkety tonight :)
[20:43] <wxl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames#A17.04
[20:44] <wxl> i like zealous zorse :)
[21:04] <tsimonq2> I like Zealous Zebu
[21:04] <tsimonq2> cjwatson: ok, fair enough :)
[21:17] <slangasek> zawesome zorangutan
[21:17] <wxl> zomgwtfbbq zombie
[21:18] <wxl> switch lightweight and functional
[21:19] <tsimonq2> wxl: *ahem*
[21:19] <wxl> i mean argh
[21:19] <wxl> sheesh
[21:27] <valorie> \o/ torrents are seeding
[21:27] <valorie> so many thanks and beers to you all you release-team heroes
[21:28]  * tsimonq2 hands out one last round of donuts and coffee
[21:32] <bittin> same here seeding torrents as much as i can and burned a bunch of dvd disks :)
[21:32] <wxl> bittin: are you seeding ALLL the torents? :)
[21:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: initramfs-tools (xenial-proposed/main) [0.122ubuntu8.4 => 0.122ubuntu8.5] (core)
[21:41] <cyphermox> ^ yay me.
[21:41] <cyphermox> slangasek: the initramfs-tools revert we discussed.
[21:48] <valorie> it's easy to seed all the torrents if you have the bandwidth and diskspace, which I do
[21:48] <valorie> and as a bonus when I go to places like SeaGL I have all the ISOs available to burn to a DVD or thumbdrive
[22:13] <xnox> cjwatson, sorry to bother you but I don't see "days without release codename" graph in the archive reports / ubuntu-archive-tools, could you commit it there or point out where it is hosted?
[22:32] <bdmurray> infinity: I ran sru-release but ubuntu-release-upgrader isn't in -updates
[22:43] <wxl> infinity: is it to be expected that releases will happen when they happen rather than necessarily waiting until release managers are ready and/or have marked images as such?
[23:43] <wxl> can someone get lubuntu in http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ please?
[23:52] <Ukikie> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/yakkety/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/ReleaseAnnouncement.html links to yakkety's wiki for the release notes.
[23:53] <tsimonq2> Ukikie: you have two nicks!!!
[23:57] <valorie> Ukikie: that's the usual way to do it
[23:58] <valorie> oh, I think you meant to say, links to Xenial's wiki page
[23:59] <Ukikie> valorie: Ah yes, meant to say that.
[23:59] <valorie> which is rather more serious
[23:59] <valorie> bdmurray or whoever else is about ^^^