[09:32] <rmg51> Morning
[09:53] <waltman> Morning?
[09:54] <rmg51> last I heard 6am was in the morning
[09:58] <waltman> doesn't look very morningish outside yet
[10:03] <JonathanD> Morning.
[10:07] <rmg51> that's because it's supposed to rain :P
[10:07] <waltman> Ah. Sounds like a great day to be inside doing jury duty. :)
[11:28] <InHisName> Wet morning to you all
[11:32] <InHisName> 'cept maybe jthan.  Prolly your morning is same as other days: dry, smoky, and firey.   Florida needs to export their 14" rainstorm up to CO. You guys could use it.
[15:31] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: coming to HOPE? http://t.co/moCxmFNG
[15:38] <ChinnoDog> probably not
[15:54] <MutantTurkey> i hope he comes.
[16:18] <InHisName> MutantTurkey: You are going up there for a day or all of them?
[16:18] <MutantTurkey> what
[16:18] <MutantTurkey> i was just making a joke
[16:18] <MutantTurkey> HOPE, I 'hope' he comes
[16:19] <MutantTurkey> lol
[16:20] <InHisName> so, you are not the great white hope and just another turkey, bah!
[16:21] <MutantTurkey> yeah :/
[18:57] <ChinnoDog> Why is it taking so long for btrfs to be stable?
[18:57] <ChinnoDog> There isn't even a fsck for it yet I don't think
[18:57] <pleia2> it always takes a long time for new filesystems to be stable
[18:57] <pleia2> (reiserfs still isn't! ;D)
[18:58] <ChinnoDog> But reiserfs has the necessary tools even if the community doesn't consider it time tested
[18:59] <ChinnoDog> I can't even create a btrfs array with non default block sizes without it eating itself
[18:59] <ChinnoDog> It seems pretty stable using default parameters though
[18:59] <ChinnoDog> But when disk errors appear I can't fix them. All I can do is make sad faces
[19:01] <ChinnoDog> Using it as the one and only file system like it was intended also has the disadvantage that I still can't put a swap file on it.
[19:06] <argv_turk> why not use a stable fs?
[19:07] <ChinnoDog> Because it is fast and supports compression.
[19:08] <jedijf> get used to sad faces
[19:08] <ChinnoDog> lol
[19:09] <ChinnoDog> Also, snapshot support is pretty useful for hacking
[19:09] <ChinnoDog> Unlike with LVM, snapshots will not cause major performance degredation
[19:10] <argv_turk> sounds fancy
[19:10] <argv_turk> well then all you can do is wait
[19:10] <argv_turk> I never have disk serrors with ext4
[19:10] <ChinnoDog> They are all writeable snapshots too. Makes it kind of confusing when calculating disk usage though
[19:37] <ChinnoDog> I don't really like using swap in linux. It seems good in principle but stuff I want is always paged to disk.
[19:38] <ChinnoDog> I think I'll go swapless
[19:47] <jedijf> swapless++
[19:47] <jedijf> goin'_swapless++
[19:55] <teddy-dbear> is that anything like going pantless?
[19:55] <teddy-dbear> I do that all the time :-D
[19:56] <teddy-dbear> time to go
[19:56] <teddy-dbear> bye for now
[22:02] <JonathanD> Evening.
[22:11] <ChinnoDog> hi JonathanD
[22:15] <JonathanD> hey ChinnoDog
[22:22] <InHisName> Evening to you too


[10:47] <sg> hi is there any packge for jboss in ubuntu?
[10:48] <sg> new to ubuntu and so far succeeded in installing server
[10:48] <sg> now want to set up jboss and eclipse and java development env