[14:05] <Dr_Willis> nfrs:  then go use the older release.
[14:05] <h4ck3rs0nly> need some help with my ATI card
[14:05] <nfrs> Dr_Willis: I can't. no "downgrade" option
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> nfrs:  reinstall or just waste time ranting more...
[14:06] <keviiN> Hola
[14:06] <apple> i try trans files with crosscable /ethernet via nfs. but it failed. does that have to do with my nic card's buffer?
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> Vixen-: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then reboot
[14:06] <nfrs> Dr_Willis: I'm not ranting. I'm forming the community opinion
[14:06] <h4ck3rs0nly> plze could someone help me?
[14:06] <apple> it's about 4 GB of files
[14:06] <Vixen-> ActionParsnip: Cheers man, I'll do that, then get back on
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> !ask | h4ck3rs0nly
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> nfrs:  you are ranting. and its not helping the 'support' aspect of the channel
[14:07] <aakhil536> what is the question
[14:07] <h4ck3rs0nly> i need to know how the edit my xorg.conf file
[14:07] <nfrs> h4ck3rs0nly: 1'm n00t 4 h4ck3r, 50 1 c4n't h3Lp u
[14:07] <houdin8888> hello all! I'm a complete noob. Just stopping by to learn, if i can
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> h4ck3rs0nly: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:08] <jmburgess> h4ck3rs0nly: you just do sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:08] <she_dyed> h4ck3rs0nly, make a copy first
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> h4ck3rs0nly: its fairly redundant now but can still be used
[14:08] <Piet> !editor > h4ck3rs0nly
[14:08] <h4ck3rs0nly> thank you, but i i'm over there and need to know how to add a driver
[14:08] <nfrs> Dr_Willis: just give me my money back, and I'll leave you all alone :)))
[14:09] <sacarlson> Piet: and they all work  ati, radeon, radeonhd,  what is the most stable at this time?  seems vesa not working now for ati in 9.04
[14:09] <miline> anyone cross compiled e2fsprogs?
[14:09] <nfrs> Dr_Willis: actually, I just wanted to understand, why and how it happened. if it was a minor collision and is this error recognized
[14:09] <h4ck3rs0nly> how do i add an ATI fglrx driver into my xorg.conf file?
[14:10] <Piet> !welcome houdin8888
[14:10] <nfrs> Dr_Willis: I think these are legit questions to ask, so don't shut me
[14:10] <Piet> sacarlson: vesa is mostly a fallback driver, so it should work for any graphics adapter and chipsets (may require some tweaking, though). which of the open source drivers fits your chipset is something you will need to read up on.
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> nfrs:  from what i gather.. ati saw the work being done on the open sourced ati drivers..and decided (prematurely) toremove support for a great many of their cards from their propriatary drivers .  cards that the open source driver 'barely' support
[14:11] <Hymnosis> hi, in my pc i have a windows partition with ubuntu, but when i login to windows i cant see the ubuntu partition. how can i read my ubuntu hard drive when im using windows xp?
[14:11] <Piet> sacarlson: unfortunately ati has not done a very good job in respect to linux driver development lately.
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> nfrs:  and ati dident keep up with the devemopment of the newer featuires of  the Xorg stuff either.
[14:11]  * Dr_Willis agrees with Piet
[14:11] <h4ck3rs0nly> to mymno: cant
[14:11] <ranf> Hymnosis, http://fs-driver.org/
[14:11] <_Dulak> JohnCane: you have the compiz effects enabled?
[14:11] <nfrs> Dr_Willis: I'm not talking about this at all. I'm talking specifically of the sound problems that plague everyone and in general of the quality of this release
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> nfrs:  no idea on soundproblems..  i haventhad any..and ive rarely seen soundproblems mentioned in here.
[14:12] <h4ck3rs0nly> how do i add an ATI fglrx driver into my xorg.conf file?
[14:12] <royalwarecast> does opera have the function like the "Yet Another Smooth Scroll"——a plugin in firefox ?
 i tried that program but it ask if i want to format the drive, which i dont to format ubuntu
[14:12] <nfrs> Dr_Willis: everyone I know has a sound problem. pulse audio simply doesn't work
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> !ati > h4ck3rs0nly
[14:13] <Ultimate_darknes> !wine
[14:13] <nfrs> Dr_Willis: so I'd like to know, why the hell was it pushed as default setting during the upgrade?
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> nfrs:  ive never had any issues with pulse audio. Ive seen fewer people in here with pulse issues.. then i did 4 + mo ago with  the last release came out.
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> Hmm . Pulse audio was the default in the last release also I thought.
[14:13] <ranf> Hymnosis, I haven't tried it yet.
[14:13] <nfrs> Dr_Willis: I might be forgetting it. but I know I was using alsa before the last upgrade
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> nfrs:  PULSE audio does use alsa..
[14:14] <h4ck3rs0nly> please could somewone me? i need to know how to add a driver into my xorg.conf file
[14:14] <nfrs> Dr_Willis: and?..
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> h4ck3rs0nly:  you could change the 'Driver 'ati' ' line tobe 'Driver 'fglrx' ' but i doubt if that will help
[14:14] <parapanghelescu> Evolution and Microsoft exchange 2003 anyone ????
[14:14] <nfrs> Dr_Willis: I was using alsa directly, not pulse audio
[14:14] <h4ck3rs0nly> ok thank you
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> nfrs:   you were using alsa..and you still are using alsa.. pulse runs on top of alsa. - if you want change it back i guess.
[14:14] <spaiduhz> what about evolution?
[14:15] <h4ck3rs0nly> and where do i need to add that?
[14:15] <kiosk> hiiiiiiiiiiii
[14:15] <h4ck3rs0nly> i mean wich line?
[14:15] <nfrs> Dr_Willis: I suddenly lost sound after the upgrade. took time to understand, what happened and what needs to be done. and I do have some experience. some people don't
[14:15] <parapanghelescu> spaiduhz > I set up the e-mail account .....I'm able to send messages ..but I cannot get messages in my Inbox
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> h4ck3rs0nly:  should be a 'Driver XXXX' line.
[14:15] <h4ck3rs0nly> there isnt =[
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> h4ck3rs0nly:  you did install the 'fglrx' drivers? Normally one dosent need to mess with xorg.conf these days
[14:16] <h4ck3rs0nly> just did, but didnt restart my computer
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> h4ck3rs0nly:  normally one reboots after installing them.
[14:16] <sacarlson>  h4ck3rs0nly: it's under the  Section "Device"
[14:16] <nfrs> Dr_Willis: anyway,thanks for your answers
[14:17] <h4ck3rs0nly> ok ty, ill try o restart
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> nfrs:  the forums proberly have huge threads on the issues that are going on.
[14:17] <h4ck3rs0nly> tyvm so far =D
[14:17] <Decepticon> in this cpu usage graph, what can be the reasons for the high cpu usage % for "iowait" http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/647/localhostlocaldomaincpu.png
[14:17] <nfrs> Dr_Willis: I don't have time to read the forums. IRC usually answers faster
[14:18] <Decepticon> nfrs, search forums they may have it already?
[14:18] <Ultimate_darknes> !ntfs > Ultimate_darkness
[14:18] <tiredbones> could you kind folks point me to kdar?
[14:18] <Ultimate_darknes> !ntfs > Ultimate_darknes
[14:18] <nfrs> Decepticon: not a general question like I asked now
[14:19] <nfrs> Decepticon: in general, I always do a google search first, and if ubuntuforums has an answer, it'll show up
[14:19] <Decepticon> nfrs, good habits
[14:20] <nfrs> Decepticon: not my first time on the internets :)
[14:21] <Decepticon> then you know its a series of tubes
[14:21] <Matisse> hi
[14:21] <nfrs> oh yes. I think I see your eye, btw :)
[14:21] <spaiduhz> y helo thar, matisse
[14:21] <tiredbones> Has kdar been remove from 8.10 ditro?
[14:21] <Piet> Decepticon: iowait=Amount of time the CPU has been waiting for I/O to complete.
[14:22] <Decepticon> Piet so my disk is being slow in read/write?
[14:22] <Decepticon> why does this take up CPU
[14:22] <Matisse> With Alsa:  is it possible to send sound signals to 2 sound cards (onboard + plugged) or if not is it possible to reverse a input channel to an output channel?
[14:22] <ranf> tiredbones, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=kdar looks so
[14:22] <Piet> Decepticon: yes it can be your disks.
[14:22] <ja660k> is there any php developers here, i cant get in #php
[14:22] <bcpeters> ok i displayed GDM and put the following in my ~/.xinitrc DISPLAY=:0.0 wmii &, DISPLAY=:0.1 exec wmii (each on their own line).  Now when I startx, I get 2 instances of X, each running an instance of wmii.  My mouse can travel across both screens, I can't drag windows from one to another (as expected, so that's ok) but my primary screen will not accept keyboard commands at all.  Here's my xorg.conf  http://paste.ubuntu.com/174918/
[14:22] <Decepticon> Piet, if the disk is being slow, why wont it just queue the disk i/o operations and forget about it until its ready instead of hogging CPU
[14:22] <hughszg> all, I want to install sdk/emulator for developing mobile apps in netbeans. I've installed netbeans, then how to add the sdk/emulator platform?
[14:23] <hughszg> I've already installed plugin java me cdc
[14:23] <houdin8888> would someone suggest a good sound card for use in UBUNTU? I've really struggled (unsuccessfully) getting my Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro card to function.. i wish i could, but, i'm too stupid, i guess.
[14:24] <Decepticon> curious, whats the use of a sound card these days?
[14:24] <tjz> .
[14:24] <nfrs> hughszg: that's the tough part :) I wasn't able to find a Nokia SDK for linux. maybe you'll have more luck with your phone
[14:24] <Decepticon> is integrated sound from mobo not good enough in today's world?
[14:24] <Decepticon> nfrs what nokia do you have
[14:25] <nfrs> hughszg: there's some emulator by Sun (dunno, for which devices), but it only works on 32-bit systems
[14:25] <hughszg> nfrs: i have blackberry pearl 8110 :)
[14:25] <Piet> Decepticon: I assume that since cpu can not offload i/o data quickly enough it gets under high load.
[14:25] <nfrs> Decepticon: 6201 (I think)
[14:25] <hughszg> nfrs: mine is 32 bit
[14:25] <nfrs> hughszg: then go ahead and install it
[14:25] <Piet> houdin8888: if you still have the card physically installed, please pastebin the output of this: sudo lspci -n && sudo lspci
[14:25] <tryagainhentai> guys im running windows 7 atm i have my os on 150 gig partition and my backup on 50 gig partition when installing ubuntu will it give me the option to resize my windows 7 partition to fit in ubuntu
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Piet: users can run lspci
[14:25] <Matisse> is there a command to list all recognized sound cards?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Piet: no need for sudo ;)
[14:26] <hughszg> nfrs: what i want to is that how can I get an emulator pop out, not specified to blackberry.
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> Matisse: sudo lshw -C sound
[14:26] <Piet> ActionParsnip: ah right
[14:26] <tiredbones> ranf, I used synaptic to install and it could not find it. I did use ALL for the search. Do I have to tell synaptic to look at universe?
[14:26] <tryagainhentai> guys im running windows 7 atm i have my os on 150 gig partition and my backup on 50 gig partition when installing ubuntu will it give me the option to resize my windows 7 partition to fit in ubuntu
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> Piet: conversely lshw moans if you dont use sudo. no idea why its needed
[14:26] <nfrs> hughszg: I know. so download the Sun's emulator. I didn't try it, but I guess it should wokr
[14:26] <nfrs> *work
[14:26] <hughszg> 'cause according to the documentation, I should have an emulator installed since I installed Java ME CDC installed
[14:26] <icqn> there is a pop-up item in menu for all input fields available in gentoo's gnome to switch the spellchecking language in pidgin, xchat and so on... is there a package witch brings this feature to ubuntu too?
[14:27] <jumbers> How can I give a client access to my server with SSH and keep him chroot jailed so that he can't see/touch my other files?
[14:27] <hughszg> nfrs: does that mean the plugin(java me CDC) i installed is useless?
[14:27] <tryagainhentai> guys im running windows 7 atm i have my os on 150 gig partition and my backup on 50 gig partition when installing ubuntu will it give me the option to resize my windows 7 partition to fit in ubuntu
[14:27] <Piet> ActionParsnip: i assume lshw actually rescans the bus while lspci just uses the information already available to the kernel
[14:27] <nfrs> hughszg: no idea
[14:27] <ranf> tiredbones, it used to exist in dapper only. What ubuntu version do you have?
[14:27] <hughszg> ok, thank you, mate
[14:28] <syntax-> does anyone in here know how to modify themes?
[14:28] <tryagainhentai> guys im running windows 7 atm i have my os on 150 gig partition and my backup on 50 gig partition when installing ubuntu will it give me the option to resize my windows 7 partition to fit in ubuntu
[14:28] <tiredbones> ranf,  I'm using distro 8.10
[14:28] <nfrs> hughszg: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=running+netbeans+emulator
[14:28] <syntax-> i wanna change the back / forward / up / stop / reload buttons in nautilus
[14:29] <tryagainhentai> can anyone answer my question
[14:29] <Piet> jumbers: i suggest you refer to the opensshd man page, it's good and complete.
[14:29] <tryagainhentai> guys im running windows 7 atm i have my os on 150 gig partition and my backup on 50 gig partition when installing ubuntu will it give me the option to resize my windows 7 partition to fit in ubuntu
[14:29] <ranf> !8.10
[14:29] <supersasho> hi.. after upgrade to 9.04 gdm wont start, it just does this http://yfrog.com/6tdsc00611wj.. any ideas?
[14:30] <icqn> tryagainhentai, theoretically yes, there is an integrated partitioning tool during the installation wizzard...
[14:30] <tryagainhentai> wat u mean theoretically
[14:30] <redarrow> tryagainhentai: but be careful with rezising
[14:30] <icqn> tryagainhentai, but i was never using it myself, google for that
[14:30] <tryagainhentai> would that mean its not wise to use this
[14:30] <nfrs> tryagainhentai: http://www.easy-ubuntu-linux.com/resize-windows-partition.html
[14:31] <tryagainhentai> cheers nfrs will av a read at that
[14:31] <icqn> tryagainhentai, no, it is a good tool
[14:31] <whiter> hello. i was wondering what the application is called that changes the gnome menu to look xp/vista like
[14:31] <tryagainhentai> wats the risks with using it though
[14:31] <syntax-> anyone?
[14:31] <nfrs> tryagainhentai: I would personally beware of using it without backup
[14:31] <Homey> epp, auto connect.  wrong network darn it -.-
[14:31] <shadeslayer> whiter: see gnome-look.org for something to suite your interest
[14:31] <Severity1> !LVM
[14:31] <nfrs> tryagainhentai: not that I have any experience with it (positive or negative). but such tools tend to be buggy
[14:32] <parapanghelescu> Dr_Willis > got a sec ?
[14:32] <Pici> whiter: The package name is gnome-main-menu, it will add a new applet to your add-to-panel selection
[14:32] <whiter> Pici: thank you
[14:32] <JohnCane> Piet:  What do you mena by that Piet :) ?
[14:32] <royalwarecast> how to install the emoctions themes in pidgin ... I try to mv my tarballs of *.png emoctions but failed How?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-main-menu
[14:32] <tiredbones> ranf,  What category would kdar be in for universe for synaptic?
[14:32] <supersasho> sacarlson: ozzmosis: the gdm wont start nor with vesa, or with fglrx, any ideas?
[14:32] <tryagainhentai> cool well i have a backup partition with all my files and apps on there so will give it a whirl will probs b bak soon for more help cause i had trouble installing ubuntu other night but a friend gave me sum tips to try if they dont work ill be back lol
[14:32] <JohnCane> Dulak: i have many settings enabled, what do u mean ?
[14:32] <redarrow> tryagainhentai: Defragmented your harddrive.  <-- this is important
[14:32] <JohnCane> Hi there ... i have a problem, after i installed to 9.04 my computer have frozzen a lot of times, someone there knows why :( ?
[14:33] <icqn> tryagainhentai, man, you can resize your partition the way you want with any tool you want, and then install ubuntu, and chooseas installation source the partition you have prepared for that...
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> JohnCane: does it unfreeze after a while?
[14:33] <tryagainhentai> will do thanks for the advice
[14:33] <nfrs> tryagainhentai: lol!
[14:33] <houdin8888> Piet: did you see the output from my running "sudo lspci -n && sudo lspci"?
[14:33] <JohnCane> ActionParsnip:  No it keeps frezzing..
[14:33] <ranf> tiredbones, it was available in dapper, but isn't anymore
[14:33] <Piet> !pastebin | JohnCane
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> JohnCane: hmm, has it always frozen? Is there a pattern to it freezing (running certain apps etc)
[14:33] <icqn> tryagainhentai, man, you can resize your partition the way you want with any tool you want, and then install ubuntu, and chooseas installation source the partition you have prepared for that...
[14:34] <icqn> oops
[14:34] <whiter> is it possible to remove "Applications" from the menu?
[14:34] <icqn> there is a pop-up item in menu for all input fields available in gentoo's gnome to switch the spellchecking language in pidgin, xchat and so on... is there a package witch brings this feature to ubuntu too?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> JohnCane: If it hasnt always frozen, what has changed since it began?
[14:34] <tiredbones> ranf,  Does that mean we can't install it anymore?
[14:34] <icqn> whiter, yes
[14:34] <JohnCane> ActionParsnip: No, it began to freeze after i upgraded to 9.04 .. hmm no it can freeze at diffrent moments , i can have nothing open and still freeze :(
[14:34] <whiter> icqn: how?
[14:35] <JohnCane> ActionParsnip: the only thing there have been changed is that i have upgraded to 9.04 ..
[14:35] <Piet> houdin8888: not yet, the url is?
[14:35] <ranf> tiredbones, is that a KDE app? maybe #kubuntu knows more about it.
[14:35] <houdin8888> Piet: not sure what you mean. 'the url is?"
[14:35] <icqn> whiter, there is a tool for that in system->preferences->main menu
[14:35] <parapanghelescu> Using Evolution to connect to ME 2003 - I can send but I cannot receive emails; anyone got a clue ???
[14:36] <houdin8888> Piet: I private messaged it to you.
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> JohnCane: ok how did you upgrade?
[14:36] <JohnCane> ActionParsnip: in terminal
[14:36] <whiter> icqn: it wont allow you to delete Applications
[14:36] <Piet> JohnCane: ubottu just explained what "pastebin" means
[14:36] <icqn> whiter, and there are another way, for example changing .desktop file, just google for it, you will find a lot of howtos
[14:37] <JohnCane> Piet:  yes i saw that.
[14:37] <mwas> folks, I just restarted my machine and I did not got the icons on my desktop what could be the issue!
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> JohnCane: ok via the web or a cd?
[14:37] <JohnCane> ActionParsnip: via the web.
[14:37] <mwas> I just restarted my machine and I did not got the icons on my desktop what could be the issue!
[14:37] <Piet> houdin8888: where can i see the output of the lspci commands?
[14:37] <Piet> houdin8888: i do not accept private messages from unregistered users. please put it on a pastebin
[14:37] <Piet> !pastebin houdin8888
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> JohnCane: ok thats cool
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> JohnCane: if you log in as a different user does it still happen?
[14:38] <icqn> whiter, what do you mean with "remove" the application from the menu? to uninstall i?
[14:38] <light> Hi, I have some AVI's that I want to put on a cd to play on my dvd player, whats the best program to do this???
[14:38] <supersasho> hi.. after upgrade to 9.04 gdm wont start, it just does this http://yfrog.com/6tdsc00611wj.. any ideas?
[14:38] <icqn> there is a pop-up item in menu for all input fields available in gentoo's gnome to switch the spellchecking language in pidgin, xchat and so on... is there a package witch brings this feature to ubuntu too?
[14:38] <JohnCane> ActionParsnip: Now i mean, i upgraded through "update manager" in there it said there was a new version ready or something like that, so i upgraded through that via the internet :)
[14:38] <houdin8888> Piet; is there a way I can send it to you?
[14:39] <WinZ> hi! is there any way to force FSCK run on next boot with -p flag (autofixing with no questions)?
[14:39] <Piet> !pastebin > houdin8888
[14:39] <whiter> icqn: i want to remove the "Applications" menu item
[14:39] <whiter> and leave Places and System
[14:39] <JohnCane> ActionParsnip: I only got one user on my computer.. so cant answer that ..
[14:39] <quibbler> !pastebin | houdin8888
[14:40] <gnuisancev4> i disabled GDM and put the following in my ~/.xinitrc DISPLAY=:0.0 wmii &, DISPLAY=:0.1 exec wmii (each on their own line).  Now when I startx, I get 2 instances of X, each running an instance of wmii.  My mouse can travel across both screens, I can't drag windows from one to another (as expected, so that's ok) but my primary screen will not accept keyboard commands at all.  Here's my xorg.conf  http://paste.ubuntu.com/174918/
[14:40] <Aliasa> hi i need some information about bash?
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> JohnCane: make another user account and logono as it
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> !adduser | JohnCane
[14:41] <she_dyed> Aliasa, like what kind
[14:41] <houdin8888> pastebin 00:00.0 0600: 8086:29c0 (rev 02)
[14:41] <houdin8888> 00:01.0 0604: 8086:29c1 (rev 02)
[14:41] <houdin8888> 00:1a.0 0c03: 8086:2937 (rev 02)
[14:41] <houdin8888> 00:1a.1 0c03: 8086:2938 (rev 02)
[14:41] <houdin8888> 00:1a.2 0c03: 8086:2939 (rev 02)
[14:41] <FloodBot1> houdin8888: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> JohnCane: 1 computer can have many users
[14:41] <Piet> gah too much lag here
[14:41] <Aliasa> the begininhg
[14:41] <Aliasa> beginning
[14:41] <JohnCane> ActionParsnip: Okay, ill try that .. i have my doubts about it, but i will try :)
[14:42] <JohnCane> !sudo
[14:42] <she_dyed> Aliasa, ? as in how to use it? or how its parents met?
[14:42] <Aliasa> how to use it
[14:43] <Aliasa> hey look ,linux is a opens sourc code,,,can i see the codes ? :D
[14:43] <cptblood> Piet, those patches are for 2.6.25 etc, but can they be applied to <IP_ADDRESS> too?
[14:43] <Aliasa> or its a idiot question
[14:43] <Pici> !cli | Aliasa
[14:43] <cptblood> (regarding udf 2.50 support)
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> !adduser | JohnCane
[14:43] <dam0> hey
[14:44] <Piet> cptblood: which patches exactly?
[14:44] <dam0> im getting this error when i try and start up ./ies4linux   here is the error  , what do i do? http://pastebin.com/mf9e3920
[14:44] <DoubleZed> my internet connection doesn't seem to be working, but mIRC - no problem o_0
[14:44] <cptblood> Piet: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=1245185&group_id=295&atid=300295
[14:44] <Lint01> Aliasa: check kernel.org
[14:44] <Pacobuntu> is it possible to get the ubuntu themes from jaunty for Ubuntu 8.04?
[14:44] <Piet> brb, trying to get a new route.
[14:44] <Aliasa> ok
[14:45] <spaiduhz> anyone got wammu to work with symbian s60v3 phones?
[14:45] <Pici> Pacobuntu: I believe  that gnome-look.org has some of them.
[14:45] <tryagainhentai> ok guys im back
[14:45] <tryagainhentai> still having problems installing ubuntu
[14:46] <spaiduhz> wb, hentai
[14:46] <spaiduhz> o?
[14:46] <Pacobuntu> ok ty Pici and what about the notifications system can i install that on 8.04 i cant upgrade to 9.04 because ati doesnt support my graphics card anymore ?
[14:46] <spaiduhz> what appears to be the problem?
[14:46] <supersasho> hi.. after upgrade to 9.04 gdm wont start, it just does this http://yfrog.com/6tdsc00611wj.. any ideas?
[14:46] <tryagainhentai> when installing ie after i hit install i get list of errors saying Buffer I/O error on device sr0
[14:47] <tryagainhentai> Buffer I/0 error on device sr0any ideas anyone installing ubuntu 8.10
[14:47] <spaiduhz> i am guessing your installer cd is damaged. try to do a cd check before installing?
[14:47] <shadeslayer> supersasho: that link gives me a 404
[14:47] <Pici> Pacobuntu: Its always risky installing packages not designed for your release, but take a look at http://lifehacker.com/5158563/get-ubuntus-new-notifications-in-your-system-now
[14:47] <tryagainhentai> i did that the cd is fine as ive installed ubuntu on my brothers machine with it
[14:47] <Pacobuntu> ty Pici
[14:48] <spaiduhz> ah. are you trying to install via wubi?
[14:48] <shadeslayer> supersasho: also try sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[14:48] <spaiduhz> ie, ubuntu inside windows?
[14:48] <supersasho> shadeslayer: try this then.. http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/3742/dsc00611w.jpg.. ok i'll give it a try
[14:48] <tryagainhentai> no im trying to do a dual boot by booting ubuntu cd from startup
[14:48] <dam0> im getting this error when i try and start up ./ies4linux   here is the error  , what do i do? http://pastebin.com/mf9e3920
[14:49] <zack`> tunning wine in wubi is really l33t
[14:49] <Piet> cptblood: which patches exactly?
[14:49] <zack`> running*
[14:49] <spaiduhz> odd.
[14:49] <cptblood> Piet: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=1245185&group_id=295&atid=300295
[14:50] <shadeslayer> supersasho: thats definitely not gdm....something sinister at work in X imo
[14:50] <houdin8888> Piet: are you still there? I put the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com/174931/
[14:50] <shadeslayer> supersasho: what video card?
[14:50] <Piet> houdin8888: please paste the output of the commands i sent you to a pastebin. see above for ubottu's explanation how to use a pastebin service. once you are done, please copy the internet address and paste only this address here.
[14:50] <tryagainhentai> so Buffer I/0 error on device sr0 anyone please help i also have ubuntu 8.04 here but when i try that i get a graphics error so when trying safe graphics mode i just get a screen full of snow
[14:50] <Daremonai> Do you guys suggest I format my HD into ext4 or ext3?
[14:50] <supersasho> shadeslayer: ati hd 4830
[14:51] <shadeslayer> Daremonai: ext4
[14:51] <Piet> dam0: install the cabextract package, then try again
[14:51] <Daremonai> shadeslayer, but I read that it's still in beta, isn't it?
[14:51] <spaiduhz> it could be that your cdrom drive has "issues" with the cd.
[14:51] <shadeslayer> Daremonai: if you dont have very sensitive data
[14:51] <tryagainhentai> is there ne1 that can help me
[14:51] <spaiduhz> try doing what this guy did: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220703
[14:51] <shadeslayer> Daremonai: yeah...thats why its safe not to keep your data on ext4
[14:51] <dam0> Piet: it wont let me
[14:52] <spaiduhz> though tbh, its been forever since i messed around with irq settings, anywhere
[14:52] <dam0> Piet: i get this errror IEs4Linux 2 is developed to be used with recent Wine versions (0.9.x). It seems that you are using an old version. It's recommended that you update your wine to the latest version (Go to: winehq.com).
[14:52] <dam0> You need to install cabextract first!
[14:52] <dam0> Download it here: http://www.kyz.uklinux.net/cabextract.php
[14:52] <FloodBot1> dam0: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:52] <shadeslayer> supersasho: are the drivers initialized??
[14:52] <supersasho> shadeslayer: how can i found it out?
[14:53] <Piet> dam0: you can ignore the warning about your wine version being outdated, this is incorrectly detected by this script
[14:53] <Daremonai> [16:51:41] <Daremonai> shadeslayer, I kinda do.. I can't play around with my 750 GBs
[14:53] <Daremonai> [16:52:03] <Daremonai> shadeslayer, I had to use 9 different hard disks just to back them up so i can format from ntfs to ext*
[14:53] <dam0> Piet: ok what would the problem be?
[14:53] <shadeslayer> supersasho: system > admin > hardware drivers
[14:53] <shadeslayer> Daremonai: better not then
[14:53] <tryagainhentai> spaid how do i add irqpool ive heard about that before but seen no option in f6 screen
[14:53] <Daremonai> shadeslayer, alrigh
[14:53] <Daremonai> thanks
[14:54] <tryagainhentai> spaiduhz how do i add irqpool ive heard about that before but seen no option in f6 screen
[14:54] <cptblood> Piet: may i pm you?
[14:54] <shadeslayer> Daremonai: no problem but when you upgrade to koala youll have to format again to ext4 to get that extra performance
[14:55] <spaiduhz> let me setup a VM.
[14:55] <shadeslayer> supersasho: did you open that app?
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> So by using ext4 on your / and /home partitions.. do you really gain much of a preformace gain?
[14:56] <supersasho> shadeslayer: but the problem is i can't go into the graphic desktop.. i can just use the safe mode and then choose root terminal or it freezes before starting X
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> Ive been testing out ext4 on some  test machines.. and cant really see much of a gain. BUt they are older box's
[14:56] <houdin8888> Piet: are you still there? I put the output to http://paste.ubuntu.com/174931/. did you see it, yet?
[14:56] <shadeslayer> supersasho: ah...then its probably a bad upgrade...probably broke X
[14:57] <dam0> can i please get help to run ies4linux?
[14:57] <Piet> cptblood: let's keep chatting here. i don't think this patch is going to work against a recent linux version, no
[14:57] <shadeslayer> Dr_Willis: really?? i have a huge gain on my laptop....17 sec boot time :)
[14:57] <Daremonai> shadeslayer, what might happen if I make the hd ext4 atm
[14:57] <cptblood> :(
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> shadeslayer:  well.. when the server has 14+Month uptime.. I dont notice a 14 boot up time. :)
[14:57] <shadeslayer> Daremonai: nothing very dangerous....quite stable till now
[14:57] <spaiduhz> tryagainhentai: hmm, i tried it out and i dont see the irqool option either in 9.04
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> shadeslayer:  at least it did have thatuptime.. till i reinstalled.. :)
[14:57] <cptblood> Hunk #1 succeeded at 1277 (offset -61 lines).
[14:57] <cptblood> Hunk #2 succeeded at 1302 (offset -61 lines).
[14:57] <shadeslayer> Dr_Willis: meh....server
[14:57] <cptblood> Hunk #3 FAILED at 1907.
[14:58] <tryagainhentai> i have 8.10
[14:58] <cptblood> patch: **** Can't rename file fs/udf/inode.c to fs/udf/inode.c.orig : Permission denied
[14:58] <cptblood> is what i get :(
[14:58] <FloodBot1> cptblood: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> shadeslayer:  not sure what im using on my AAO. whatever the netbook remix ed. used.
[14:58] <tryagainhentai> 8.04 i get the graphics error 8.10 i get the buffer error
[14:58] <supersasho> shadeslayer: so i should go dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[14:58] <rio> is there a way to tell ubiquity which flavor of ubuntu to install? for example boot a kubuntu livecd and tell ubiquity to install xubuntu?
[14:58] <cptblood> link : http://paste.ubuntu.com/174938/
[14:58] <shadeslayer> Daremonai: have a quick fix for you , you can upgrade to ext4 from ext3 without formatting
[14:58] <Decepticon> !baclup
[14:58] <Decepticon> !backup
[14:59] <shadeslayer> supersasho: no idea on X....try it but i doubt itll work.... try a reinstall
[14:59] <YeTr2_> dam0: install wine and cabextract through the package manager. go to ies4linux website. download the installer script and run the commands on the web page. follow the instructions provided on the installer window.
[14:59] <cptblood> Piet , after running http://paste.ubuntu.com/174939/
[14:59] <Daremonai> shadeslayer, that's perfect. Coz I have 6 hard disks with ext3 on them, formatting all of em wouldn't be nice... So i stick with ext3 now, and upgrade to ext4 when it's more stable?
[14:59] <Piet> cptblood: basically, my suggestion is, so not use blue ray, it is a worse format than much that has been there before, it even embeds a virtual machine and runs code without you knowing what and why inside it.
[14:59] <Piet> houdin8888: didn't see the URL yet, but will have a look now
[15:00] <Piet> dam0: i think the only problem is that you have not yet installed cabextract
[15:00] <cptblood> i wanna run it, and dont care what code it may run, i wanna enjoy my bluray movies
[15:00] <Piet> cptblood: become root before running the patch. but still, i don't think it will work
[15:00] <shadeslayer> Daremonai: yep...see http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto
[15:00] <cptblood> i did run it as root
[15:00] <spaiduhz> tryagainhentai have you tried with -noapic?
[15:00] <tryagainhentai> yes
[15:01] <tryagainhentai> and nolapic
[15:01] <spaiduhz> no dice?
[15:01] <Daremonai> shadeslayer, thanks.. will do.
[15:01] <mwas> How do I get desktop icons, I just lost it once I restart my machine
[15:02] <shadeslayer> Daremonai: it has instructions on how to upgrade to ext4 from ext3 without formatting
[15:02] <Daremonai> shadeslayer, thanks.. am reading.
[15:02] <mwas> How do I get desktop icons, I just lost it once I restart my machine
[15:02] <shadeslayer> mwas: try alt+F2 > gconf-editor > apps > nautilus > pref > show desktop
[15:02] <cptblood> and other things than blurays can be burnt using udf 2.50 filesystem
[15:04] <shadeslayer> Pici: !ext4 still not icluded?
[15:04] <shadeslayer> *included
[15:04] <ikonia> shadeslayer: I'm putting something together,
[15:04] <syntax-> this is what terms in chmod " drwxr-xr-x "? " drwx------  " is 700..
[15:04] <LrdSivanicon> i have dual head system but when i go into amdcccle it doesnt allow me to configure it.  The options are greyed out.
[15:04] <shadeslayer> ikonia: ah..thatl be great
[15:04] <dam0> Piet: ok i got it working, now i am trying to update to 7 but i get this error: http://pastebin.com/m20c92ae3
[15:04] <mwas>  shadeslayer: Its already checked
[15:04] <tryagainhentai> Buffer I/0 error on device sr0 can anyone help with this
[15:04] <shadeslayer> *that'll
[15:04] <shadeslayer> mwas: checked?
[15:04] <laxa8831> can someone remind me what the command is to show all physical drives so that i can add an entry to my fstab?
[15:04] <Pici> shadeslayer: included?
[15:05] <shadeslayer> Pici: in ubottu
[15:05] <mwas> shadeslayer: ya it has a tick mark in the box
[15:05] <Pici> shadeslayer: no
[15:05] <tryagainhentai> Buffer I/0 error on device sr0 can anyone help with this
[15:05] <ikonia> Pici: I've got the info ready, I'll update now
[15:05] <dam0> Piet: just a minute im installing it now:P
[15:05] <shadeslayer> mwas: oh.. sorry for that uncheck it and check it back
[15:05] <shadeslayer> Pici: yeah.. ikonia has something
[15:05] <KaiForce> I've borked my xorg.conf file, and now I can't see any available resolution > 1024x768.  Anyone know how to fix this?
[15:06] <mwas> shadeslayer: after this shall I restart my session
[15:06] <shadeslayer> !resolution | KaiForce
[15:06] <shadeslayer> mwas: no need
[15:06] <KaiForce> shadeslayer thank you
[15:06] <tryagainhentai> Buffer I/0 error on device sr0 can anyone help with this
[15:06] <jonhjonhz> hola buenos dias
[15:06] <shadeslayer> mwas: did it get the icons back?
[15:06] <mwas> shadeslayer: but I did not see any icons still
[15:06] <Pici> !es | jonhjonhz
[15:07] <tryagainhentai> Buffer I/0 error on device sr0 can anyone help with this
[15:07] <Daremonai> does anyone know if the SATA cable can be 'bad' leading to a slow HD operation? I'm currently copying at 1MB/sec from that HD for some reason... When i tried to plug an alternate HD in, it would tell me that It's too slow, and would result in it not being mounted on startup.
[15:07] <spaiduhz> tryagainhentai: i believe you can add the -irqpool manually
[15:07] <mwas> shadeslayer: no icons
[15:07] <tryagainhentai> how to add manually
[15:07] <shadeslayer> mwas: yeah..im searching
[15:07] <spaiduhz> hit f6, and the options will come up. ignore for now, and hit escape.
[15:08] <mwas> shadeslayer: ok
[15:08] <tryagainhentai> ok
[15:08] <spaiduhz> add -irqpool to the end of the line
[15:08] <jonhjonhz> how can i add samba ports to gufw firewall?
[15:08] <shadeslayer> mwas: try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-artwork
[15:08] <sipior> Daremonai: sure, bad cables can be a culprit. easy to test, if you've a spare handy.
[15:08] <erUSUL> Daremonai: yep a cable can be bad... something shuld be loggin to /var/log/messages about it
[15:08] <Daremonai> sipior, alright, i'll go check if I have some left.
[15:08] <spaiduhz> VM doesnt seem to like having the tag on though.
[15:09] <noname123> hello, I have compiled a new kernel, and now i need the file initrd.img. How can I create it
[15:09] <spaiduhz> so i think adding the tag -irqpool is doing something.
[15:09] <syntax-> drwx------ is 700; what about drwxr-xr-x? anyway..
[15:09] <mwas> shadeslayer: Intalled already
[15:09] <spaiduhz> hope it helps. :)
[15:09] <shadeslayer> mwas: and sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[15:09] <JordanS> :)
[15:09] <tryagainhentai> ill give it a go spaiduhz and will report bak and let u know how i get on thanks for your help
[15:09] <spaiduhz> good luck
[15:09] <jonhjonhz> how can i add samba ports how can i add samba ports to gufw firewall?
[15:10] <erUSUL> noname123: if you already installed the modules -->  sudo mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-$kernel_version $kernel-version
[15:10] <erUSUL> !kernel | noname123 m
[15:10] <shadeslayer> mwas: are these the default icons?? or some other icons?
[15:11] <mwas> shadeslayer: desktop icons
[15:11] <noname123> ok, thank you
[15:11] <mwas> shadeslayer: I installed ubuntu-desktop ??
[15:11] <erUSUL> !ufw | jonhjonhz
[15:11] <Piet> houdin8888: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/63352
[15:11] <shadeslayer> mwas: i mean default theme icons or some custom icons?
[15:11] <Piet> houdin8888: your sound card is not supported by jaunty, but it is likely to be supported in one of the next releases.
[15:11] <shadeslayer> !gufw
[15:11] <laxa8831> how can i display the uuid's of all drives?
[15:12] <LjL> !blkid | laxa8831
[15:12] <shadeslayer> !firewall | jonhjonhz
[15:12] <mwas> shadeslayer: No the user created icons which appear on desktop folders/files
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> ufw guide/docs
[15:12] <houdin8888> Piet: thanks for checking into that for me. I had the feeling my card wasn't yet supported. So, again, would you or someone else suggest a good sound card that is supported?
[15:13] <shadeslayer> mwas: ok,if you dont have a custom setup i can help you restore gnome to defaults
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> houdin8888:  most older creatives - NOT based on the x-fi :)
[15:13] <jonhjonhz> on all channels saying the same thing! gufw! is! blabla anybody help here... en todos los canales dicen lo mismo !gufw !es !blabla nadie ayuda aqui
[15:13] <shadeslayer> houdin8888: the intel IHC7 / 8
[15:13] <noname123> @erSUL: what for modules I need for mkinitramfsẞ
[15:13] <laxa8831> ubottu: cheers for that
[15:13] <spaiduhz> at the risk of sounding like a dick... dont most motherboards already come with good integrated sound?
[15:14] <spaiduhz> even intel mobos have integrated sound. some with integrated graphics even.
[15:14] <Piet> houdin8888: how about using your onboard chip?
[15:14] <Dr_Willis> spaiduhz:  well 'good' is the operative term. :)
[15:15] <Decessus> does anyone know if there is a way I can install virtualbox on jaunty without having to downgrade to python2.6, symlinking didn't work, and downgrading would mean days of driver reinstalls
[15:15] <houdin8888> shadeslayer: what kind of sound card is that?
[15:15] <shadeslayer> houdin8888: its a integrated sound chip on my mobo
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> spaiduhz:  often they are standard chipsets with linux-unfriendly tweaks/changes/ and issues :(
[15:15] <shadeslayer> !hardware | houdin8888
[15:15] <houdin8888> Piet: my onboard chip isn't supported, either.. its a mild nightmare.
[15:15] <Piet> houdin8888: from your paste: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[15:16] <spaiduhz> ah. my lappy has some integrated sound that i dont even care to know about
[15:16] <spaiduhz> thankfully, it just works.
[15:16] <spaiduhz> craptastic quality, but my speakers are pretty craptastic anyway
[15:16] <shadeslayer> spaiduhz: like everything else in ubuntu :P
[15:17] <spaiduhz> true, dat. alot of things just work in ubuntu.
[15:17] <Piet> houdin8888: your onboard chip should be supported since linux 2.6.25 using snd-hda-intel
[15:18] <Decessus> I've been trying for a couple days now, I downloaded the python2.6 debs, but they say that it conflicts with 3.0
[15:18] <houdin8888> piet: i agree. it should be supported, yet, all my attempts & R&D led me to the conclusion it wasn't supported.
[15:18] <spaiduhz> see, i dont even know theres a python 3.0
[15:18] <biesbjerg> Off topic: anyone who can tell me when the exam periods are in USA and the UK?
[15:19] <ikonia> biesbjerg: please keep to the topic
[15:19] <shadeslayer> !ot | biesbjerg
[15:19] <magnetron> biesbjerg→ join #ubuntu-offtopic plz
[15:19] <Decessus> or has no one run into this problem.
[15:19] <biesbjerg> okay thanks
[15:19] <spaiduhz> im sure that getting wammu to work with my nokia e71 wont be a gigantic task if i knew  half as much as the next guy
[15:20] <spaiduhz> oddly enough using the usb cable the network manager can autodetect and run as a 3g modem, but wammu just refuses to detect it. :(
[15:21] <krishna> hi i installed all packagses from aptoncd.iso.... but wine got its applications menu entry as "other" .. how to make it "wine" ? thnx in advance
[15:22] <rsajdok> hi, how to turn off notify like someone quit or join to #ubuntu in irssi?
[15:22] <shadeslayer> rsajdok: google around
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> rsajdok:  irssi faq/docs  show exactly how.
[15:23] <grawity> rsajdok: hint, it's /ignore
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> rsajdok:  irssi docs - a Must read. :)
[15:23] <Aliasa> can i use emacs in ubuntu?
[15:23] <jetsaredim> is there a major difference between setting up a DSL connection via networkmanager rather than through pppoeconf??
[15:23] <LjL> Aliasa: of course.
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> Aliasa:  you can install and use emacs.. of course
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> !find emacs
[15:23] <Decessus> can someone atleast point me in the proper direction?
[15:24] <Aliasa> i am installing emcs22
[15:24] <krishna__> hi i installed all packagses from aptoncd.iso.... but wine got its applications menu entry as "other" .. how to make it "wine" ? thnx in advance
[15:24] <sipior> Decessus: i've just verified that i have both 2.6 and 3 installed simultaneously. this is on 9.04, btw.
[15:24] <RobotCow> how can i add universe multiverse repositories to my jaunty install?
[15:24] <shadeslayer> krishna__: try #winehq if no one answers
[15:25] <krishna__> RobotCow: system --> admin --> software resources
[15:25] <Decessus> sipior, well I had 3.0 before I tried installing 2.6, and for some reason, virtual box will not take a greater version than 2.6
[15:25] <krishna__> shadeslayer: thanks to you
[15:25] <shadeslayer> krishna__: also try rt click > edit menu
[15:25] <RobotCow> krishna__, and how can i know what to put in there?
[15:25] <Decessus> nor can I find anything but 2.6 minimal on my package manager
[15:25] <rsajdok> i use: "/ignore joins never" it does not work, why?
[15:26] <shadeslayer> rsajdok: did you even read the  irssi docs?
[15:26]  * grawity sighs.
[15:26] <dam0> can i install http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ on my ubuntu pc under wine?
[15:26] <sipior> Decessus: then you have a broken repository set: verify that the list is correct, try an apt-get update, and see if it sorts out.
[15:26] <krishna__> RobotCow: in the software resources, check everything on that window
[15:26] <rsajdok> >shadeslayer: yes
[15:26] <Guest28940> Which vncconnect (VNC client) will allow me to specify a proxy?
[15:27] <grawity> rsajdok: Type /help ignore
[15:27] <Decessus> sipior, where in ubuntu is the list?
[15:27] <rsajdok> >grawity: thanks
[15:28] <sipior> Decessus: /etc/apt/sources.list, or jsut check in synaptic (or the "Software Sources" menu item)
[15:28] <Decessus> ok, ty :)
[15:28] <Stevko> Hello. Does anyone know what "[  218.487249] ehci_hcd 0000:00:10.4: force halt; handhake e0814014 00004000 00000000 -> -110" might mean in dmesg and especially how to get rid of it? It happens some time after I start PC and after that no USB drive is found and my TV card does not work. Happens in Jaunty.
[15:29] <krishna__> how do i make portable softwares ??
[15:29] <shadeslayer> krishna__: portable?? like aptoncd?
[15:29] <shadeslayer> or .debs?
[15:30] <krishna__> shadeslayer: in windows, there is THINSTALL which will make a .exe will run directly without installations
[15:30] <BLTnoTomato> is there an app to check broken links on a web site?
[15:30] <shadeslayer> krishna__: no idea on that
[15:30] <krishna__> BLTnoTomato: what kinda links ? rapidshare ?
[15:30] <j0ve> krishna__: you compile a static version of the package which contains all necessary support libs
[15:31] <Stevko> BLTnoTomato: wget might be enough. But I am sure there is an app for that.
[15:31] <krishna__> j0ve: is there any software to do that ?? like THINSTALL for windows ??
[15:31] <j0ve> krishna__: yeah...gcc
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> :)
[15:32] <krishna__> j0ve: PLZ dont joke
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> Theres no 'hacky tools' to do it, never was much of a need for it.
[15:32] <j0ve> krishna__: not a joke...that is how it is done...jeez
[15:32] <Daremonai> how can i make an application run on startup with a small delay, for example, wait for 5 seconds after boot then run the application. (This is because wine's panel is not being placed with the ubuntu panel, it is actually creating it's own one)
[15:32] <sipior> Daremonai: "man sleep"
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> Daremonai:  make a script that launches the app.. and befor theapp runs fromthe script use a command like 'sleep 10'
[15:33] <Stevko> Daremonai: Make script that first "runs" sleep 5 and then your app.
[15:33] <Daremonai> sipior, I tried that, it didn't work.
[15:33] <krishna__> j0ve: know alternates for THINSTALL ?
[15:33] <Daremonai> well, sipior, Dr_Willis, Stevko, I did: sleep 5; wine /path/to/program
[15:33] <shadeslayer> whats the meta package for glib?
[15:34] <Piet> cptblood: why did you want the kernel patch anyway? are you on Hardy Heron or lower?
[15:34] <valleydaddy78> ubuntu is giving me a lot of grief
[15:34] <safruhani> :)
[15:34] <shadeslayer> valleydaddy78: such as>
[15:35] <Piet> cptblood: according to this page on the ubuntu wiki you should not need the patch if you're on a newer release
[15:35] <valleydaddy78> i got hardy heron and it wont install
[15:35] <shadeslayer> valleydaddy78: hardy is eol i think
[15:35] <valleydaddy78> dell mini 9 ispiron
[15:35] <tryagainhentai> i tried my ubuntu 8.04 disc when i hit install the load bar comes up when thats done screen flickers then goes black for about 2 minutes then ubuntu goes into command line i get no GUI like i should so i figured graphics card maybe not compatable its quite a recent laptop so i tried start x screen went black again for 2 minutes then gave error INTEL - no matching device section for instance
[15:35] <shadeslayer> valleydaddy78: how about jaunty jackalope
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> valleydaddy78:   for a netbook, you may want to use the Netbook-remix.
[15:36] <tryagainhentai> i also tried f4 safe graphics mode but got a screen full of snow
[15:36] <tryagainhentai> any ideas anyone
[15:36] <_Brun0_> I have an Radeon Mobility M6 LY and I've found tutorials on the internet on how to install it but all of them tell to change xaorg.conf and canging it is not recommended in Ubuntu 9.04. Is there an easier way to install/enable ati open source driver?
[15:36] <Laman> hello, i have a problem: my ubuntu 9.04 freezes in 50seconds after startup (even caps lock control is dead), i can only reset computer. i think there can be some troubles with my graphic card (asus ati x1600). please help :)
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> _Brun0_:  the ati open sourced drivers should be  installed allready.
[15:36] <valleydaddy78> i tried that before i went and bought this book and cd
[15:37] <Decessus> the actual error is that python2.6 conflicts with installed package python-central ;\
[15:37] <_Brun0_> Dr_Willis, is this it? Kernel modules: radeonfb
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> valleydaddy78:  hardy heron is rather.. old.. I hope you dident pay a lot for the book.
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> _Brun0_:  that looks like a framebuffer module to me.
[15:38] <_Brun0_> Dr_Willis, thats my concern.
[15:38] <valleydaddy78> this is 3rd additin they even talk about mac os x in this book
[15:38] <Dr_Willis> X has its own drivers.. then theres kernel modules taht are used by the X drivers.
[15:38] <Dr_Willis> valleydaddy78:  OS-X has been out for quite some time.. :)
[15:38] <Dr_Willis> !hardy
[15:38] <laxa8831> i'm having trouble sharing folders un 9.04
[15:38] <Piet> tryagainhentai: why don't you use a current ubuntu release?
[15:38] <Dr_Willis> Guess Hardy is only a year old. ::)
[15:39] <laxa8831> ive ammended smb.conf but still get error 255 when trying to share
[15:39] <Guest44360> Anyone connected to a VNC server through a proxy?
[15:39] <laxa8831> its an external usb i mounted in /media/1tb
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> laxa8831:  you instaled the samba service?
[15:39] <laxa8831> willis: yeah
[15:39] <laxa8831> enabled it
[15:39] <valleydaddy78> damn it takes a long time for those i sos to down load plus im a noob to ubuntu i love redhat though
[15:40] <Dr_Willis> valleydaddy78:  many linux mags have the latest ubuntu  on disk with them.
[15:40] <chazco> Hi... anyone know how to convert a .sh to a .deb?
[15:40] <valleydaddy78> and slax is cool to
[15:40] <_Brun0_> Dr_Willis, do you knwo how can I isntall ati driver?
[15:40] <shadeslayer> valleydaddy78: you can get one for free too
[15:40] <dooner> Dr_Willis, valleydaddy78  Hardy is LTS as well,  But Still for a netbook like the mini-9  I would either user Jaunty UNR or the Dell Branded ubuntu available from their site (which is based on jaunty with some stuff removed due to licenese issues)
[15:40] <Dr_Willis> laxa8831:  give the user a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME' ?
[15:40] <Dr_Willis> _Brun0_:  i avoide ati cards like they had teh SwineFLue..
[15:41] <Dr_Willis> dooner:  Yea.. the UNR  worked great for my AAO netbook.
[15:41] <valleydaddy78> may im just not for it but i cant get it to install on my netbook
[15:41] <_Brun0_> Dr_Willis, very helpful! I'll go and buy an nvidia card. OHHH i forgot. i'm using a old laptop. Thanks. Great support. Don't waste my time if answering things like that don't even try.
[15:41] <Slart> chazco: it's not really something you can do... they are different things
[15:42] <valleydaddy78> i tried to get remix to work for a week
[15:42] <dooner> Dr_Willis, Typing this on a AAO running jaunty unr as well
[15:42] <shadeslayer> how do i install glib ?? whats the package name?
[15:42] <chazco> Slart - Ah... fair enough, was wondering if there was something like checkinstall but for scripts. Thanks anyway :)
[15:42] <spaiduhz> installing radeon drivers is not that difficult.
[15:42] <Slart> chazco: you could of course include the sh file in a package and then make it run the sh file when installed.. but I don't think that is what you want to do
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> _Brun0_:  ive made it a point to NEVER buy any more ati stuff..  I cant really give much advice if I dont have them any more can i....
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> _Brun0_:  you may want to rember the ati issues when next shopping.
[15:43] <chazco> Slart - Considered that but the script takes input and so on (its a touchscreen driver)
[15:43] <laxa8831> willis: not yet
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> _Brun0_:  you can install the fglrx package fromt he repos easially enough.. getting them to work.. is the bigger issue at this time due to ati's messing with the drivers.
[15:43] <_Brun0_> Dr_Willis, Shopping? You think I shoopped an old laptop? Its for my job. Your talking purely off-topic nonsense stuff.
[15:43] <BLTnoTomato> krishna__, I'm trying to check links for the web site I manage.
[15:44] <Slart> chazco: ah.. well.. I don't know of a way, sorry
[15:44] <chazco> Slart - Fair enough, thanks anyway :)
[15:44] <BLTnoTomato> is there a link validator for ubuntu?
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> _Brun0_:   You are asking me personally for help.. and im giveing your my advice.. do what you want.    I avoide even helping/suggesting stuff to people with ati cards.. YOU asked ME  personally a question.
[15:44] <BLTnoTomato> preferable one that can check a site recursively...
[15:44] <_Brun0_> Dr_Willis, i see you don't know what youre talking about. ATI has always messed their drivers.. Thats why i'm putting OS driver.
[15:45] <_Brun0_> Dr_Willis, i never aked you for help.. I asked this channel for help.
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> _Brun0_: the GPL driver is allready installed by default.  the 'Driver 'ati'' line in xorg.conf should be using it.
[15:45] <laxa8831> willis: same problem, says that i can only share folders i own
[15:45] <_Brun0_> Dr_Willis, then you came to me and said? buy another card. LOOOOL
[15:45] <cnu_> i'm not getting sound in rhythmbox .. what may be the problem ?
[15:45] <j0ve> _Brun0_: no...you directed it to Dr_Disk
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> j0ve:  :)
[15:45] <tpratt> Anyone know of a laptop that works perfectly with jaunty?  Specs: 13.3" 1280x800 display, depth no greater than 9.0", weight no greater than 4.5 lbs.  The XPS M1330n is a little big for a 13.3" display.
[15:45] <Slart> _Brun0_: lastlog says you directed the question directly to Dr_Willis ... you might want to look at the !attitude factoid
[15:45] <Bob3> Hello What is the terminal command to check what the BusID is?
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> at least i think the line in xorg.conf is " driver 'ati' "
[15:46] <_Brun0_> j0ve, no read the chat.. He came and answered my question b4.\
[15:46] <pnuw> tpratt ThinkPad X60, X61
[15:46] <j0ve> _Brun0_: <_Brun0_> Dr_Willis, do you knwo how can I isntall ati driver?
[15:46] <shadeslayer> tpratt: my M1530 works perfectly
[15:46] <Stevko> BLTnoTomato: wget --spider?
[15:46] <laxa8831> tpratt: thats what im using now
[15:46] <_Brun0_> Slart, read carfully the chat. My first question was to channel.
[15:46] <tpratt> laxa8831: M1330n?
[15:46] <Bob3> What is the terminal command to check what the BusID is?
[15:46] <_Brun0_> j0ve, i asked my question before.. Read carefully please.
[15:46] <laxa8831> : yup
[15:46] <laxa8831> tpratt: yup
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> the fact remains the 'ati' Open sourced driver - is installed by default. I think. (anyone care to confirm this?)
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> !find ati
[15:47] <_Brun0_> I told you my driver isnt ati by defualt. Its a framebuffer.
[15:47] <Bob3> What is the terminal command to check what the BusID is?
[15:47] <valleydaddy78> ok im downloading remix 2hr i have to wait
[15:47] <Jack_Sparrow> j0ve lspci | grep -i vga should show you the right pci port for setting up the video card in your xorg
[15:47] <j0ve> Dr_Willis: I have been trying to get my ati working with 3D for a week. I agree with your assessment and have resigned myself to leaving it as is
[15:47] <shadeslayer> how do i install GLIB ?
[15:47] <Dr_Willis> _Brun0_:  you can load the 'kernel framebuffer' module to get a 'framebuffer' for the Console. thats not really anything todo with the X driver.
[15:48] <valleydaddy78> #chatulous
[15:48] <_Brun0_> Dr_Willis, As I told you before: lspci -v shows this as my driver for vga: Kernel modules: radeonfb. See my point?
[15:49] <BLTnoTomato> Stevko, wget spider?
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> _Brun0_:  in thinking thats showing the 'framebuffer' driver. Not the X driver.
[15:49] <valleydaddy78> #iphone
[15:49] <shadeslayer> valleydaddy78: please stop
[15:49] <grawity> valleydaddy78: You need to type /join before the channel name.
[15:50] <valleydaddy78> stop what
[15:50] <darthanubis> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_osx_64bit&num=11
[15:50] <valleydaddy78> i need to get to those rooms
[15:50] <shadeslayer> valleydaddy78: ok then /j #room
[15:50] <Dr_Willis> valleydaddy78:  then use /join #channelname
[15:50] <valleydaddy78> ok
[15:50] <Bob3> What is the terminal command to check what the BusID is?
[15:51] <syberhunter> can anyone tell me how to increase the size of the swapfile in Ubuntu 9.04..after it's all up and running?
[15:51] <Dr_Willis> syberhunter:  you normally use a swap partition. You can make more swap 'files' if you want if you need more swap.
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> syberhunter: you can use swap files and swap partitions  combined.. or several swap partitions also.
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> syberhunter:  or all of the above
[15:52] <_Brun0_> Dr_Willis, http://pastebin.com/md61fffd from line 105 to 121 shows its the only driver it reports. So I guess its the device driver there.
[15:53] <shortlord> which filesystem would you recommend for a separate /boot? ext2 3 or 4? Is there any good reason for journaling for /boot?
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> _Brun0_:  yes. to enable the 'console framebuffer for that card' you would 'modprobe   radeonfb' that will allow you higher resolutions and extra features on the consoles.
[15:54] <syberhunter> Dr_Willis is there a program or app to do that?
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> syberhunter:  never noticed.  just following the various swap howtos makign a new swap file takes  just a few min.
[15:54] <sipior> Bob3: if you mean devices on the pci bus, try "lspci -vmm"
[15:54]  * shadeslayer realizes he didnt apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
[15:54] <_Brun0_> Dr_Willis, i wanted to use the open source ATI driver for better performance in X.
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> syberhunter:  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/
[15:55] <sjzzalx> Hello. I need a good, low-resource-consuming feedreader that will pop up bubbles or something when a feed updates. Any recommendations?
[15:55] <shadeslayer> !feed
[15:55] <syberhunter> Dr_Willis..ty
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> _Brun0_:  radeonfb is not  for X.  its for the console.
[15:56] <tpratt> laxa8831: Did the M1330n come with the slot-loading optical drive?
[15:56]  * Dr_Willis is recalling the months he toyed with the Framebuffer console features  a year ago.
[15:56] <Blinkiz> Hi there. Am about to by my first SAS controller card and a SAS disk. I got one problem. What cable should be used between these two?
[15:56] <_Brun0_> Dr_Willis, lol i knwo that. But what is my lap using for x then?
[15:56] <shadeslayer> tpratt: m1330n ?? or just the m1330 ?
[15:57] <shortlord> which filesystem is recommended for a separate /boot partition?
[15:57] <dooner> shortlord, ext2 is what I normally see
[15:57] <Dr_Willis> No idea. Its auto congigured for the most part I would guess its using the 'ati' driver..unless xorg.conf is saying other wise
[15:57] <tpratt> shadeslayer: I was thinking the M1330n.  The M1330 seems to come with a Dell 1395 WLAN, which I assume is not as well supported as the Intel that comes with the M1330n version.
[15:57] <bartmon> Hi! With the recent kernel upgrade to 2.6.28-12-generic my wired ethernet NIC is no longer recognised during boot. Any similar experiences?
[15:58] <pegon> Morning all
[15:58] <_Brun0_> Dr_Willis, do you knwo how can I check what is being used for video driver?
[15:58] <sipior> Blinkiz: wikipedia has a pretty thorough write-up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Attached_SCSI
[15:58] <Dr_Willis> _Brun0_:   othe then looking in xorg.conf  - ive never notic3ed a command that says it..  lsmod Might show what modules are in use.
[15:59] <bartmon> _Brun0_: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:59] <shadeslayer> tpratt: whats m13330n ?? and how is it diff. to the normal m1330 ?
[15:59] <Blinkiz> sipior, Already read that. My question still remains
[15:59]  * Dr_Willis gives bartmon  an A+
[15:59] <_Brun0_> bartmon, ty i'll look there
[15:59] <bartmon> Dr_Willis: Yay, thank you! :)
[15:59] <_Brun0_> Dr_Willis, ty for attention.
[15:59] <shortlord> dooner: thx
[15:59] <pegon> The question I have is I did apt-get remove and I have a HUGE list of packages...but the terminal does like four of them and then says they are not installed but like stops...how can I get it to run through the whole list?
[15:59] <schregge> hi, i have some troubles with scanimage and jaunty. When i try to scan, i get a segfault. gdb scanimage points me to  /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2.....
[16:00] <tpratt> shadeslayer: The M1330n comes with Hardy preloaded.  As far as I can tell, the only hardware difference is the default WLAN.
[16:00] <bartmon> _Brun0_: It's a long and confusing log file. If you can't make the driver out, paste the log into a pastebin service so we can take a peek
[16:00] <sipior> Blinkiz: well, if you know the connectors at each end, you already have the answer, right?
[16:00] <schregge> i already compiled the new scanimage version from cvs, but stull the same problem
[16:00] <shadeslayer> tpratt: so no diff. in hardware?
[16:00] <ForgeAus> how to exit matchbox window manager back to login (in my case kdm?
[16:00] <Dr_Willis> bartmon:  now for exctra credit.  come up with a 'grep' line to find it :)
[16:00] <dooner> shortlord, now I not sure how much of a difference it makes, but ext2 is lowest common denominator, so if $BAD_STUFF happens, most tools be able to readit.
[16:01] <pegon> ForgeAus, try ctrl alt backspace
[16:01] <Blinkiz> sipior, Thats the problem. It does not say on seagate homepage and not on Dells page about the controller card
[16:01] <tpratt> shadeslayer: Well, the CPUs they offer are different, but not significantly as far as I can tell and the WLAN, as I said.
[16:01] <shortlord> dooner: the german ubuntu channel recommended the same, so I will use ext2 for /boot, ext4 for / and /home
[16:01] <shadeslayer> tpratt: whats diff. with wlan?
[16:02] <pegon> Anyone got any ideas on my question by some chance? lol
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> _Brun0_:   grep LoadModule Xorg.0.log
[16:02] <vzambrano> popol vuh
[16:02] <buzzDrive> Hi does anybody a chown/chmod -R with gui ?
[16:02] <sipior> Blinkiz: time to get on the phone, then (or buy from another site that provides more technical information)
[16:02] <lscott3> is there an amd64 for gimpshop?
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> _Brun0_:  shows  my driver its usinghere.. and other modules. :)  at elast its easier to read then the whole log.
[16:02] <Frayjin> Hey there! :) I have a question. Atm I'm using a nVidia Corporation G80 (GeForce 8800 GTS) and for some reason I am unable to get the rendering check to respond positive. Only way it works is when I run the rendering check as superuser. Problem now is that I can not use 3D grafics in wine and other linux apps. Anyone here that can help me out? Thanks, much appreciated!
[16:02] <vzambrano> bye
[16:02] <radiounix> Is anyone available to help with an ALSA issue? Bit lengthy, so maybe PM?
[16:02] <bartmon> Dr_Willis: grep /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ /var/log/Xorg.0.log  :P
[16:02] <DrHalan> hey
[16:03] <DrHalan> i am looking for drivers for my samsung pixon
[16:03] <shadeslayer> !sound | radiounix
[16:03] <olavimmanuel> how to make dpkg drop one of the utilities it has, but install the rest (conflict). Or how to make it overwrite existing..?
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> Frayjin:  what 'rendering' check ?  I got an Nvidia 8800gtsXXX here.
[16:03] <tpratt> shadeslayer: "Dell 1395" (default, you can upgrade to Intel) on M1330.  Intel wireless is standard on M1330n.  4GB standard on M1330n.  Why am I trans-typing Dell's website?
[16:03] <hkais> hello
[16:03] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[16:03] <katatafish> Hey all - when I try to execute "apt-get update" I get the following error on several repositories: Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main Packages 404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]. Any help on how to fix this? Thank you.
[16:03] <pegon> The question I have is I did apt-get remove and I have a HUGE list of packages...but the terminal does like four of them and then says they are not installed but like stops...how can I get it to run through the whole list?
[16:04] <hkais> anyone here who uses successfully ubuntu 32 bit with 4 GB RAM and the nvidia prop. driver?
[16:04] <shadeslayer> tpratt: ah.. thnx for the info btw ;)
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> katatafish Pastebin your /etc/sources.list
[16:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste
[16:04] <katatafish> will do... one sec
[16:05] <pegon> Dr_Willis, Would you happen to have any idea on the qustionI asked earlier by some chance is about apt-get remove
[16:05] <olavimmanuel> how to make dpkg drop one of the utilities it is going to install from a given package, but install the rest (conflict). Or how to make it overwrite existing..?
[16:05] <jondgls> if I wanted to exlude my swap file from a backup which file system directory should I exclude/
[16:05] <forge> whoever said ctrl + alt + backspace THANX!!!
[16:05] <jonim8or> A program I wrote in C++ sometimes gives an assertion error from xcb_io.c:176 . It has something to do with threads. How would I go about debugging it?
[16:05] <pegon> forge, yvw glad I could help :)
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> pegon:  i dident notice..  sorry.  I cant recall ever using apt-get remove. :)
[16:06] <Frayjin> Dr_Willis: I used this commandline ... glxinfo | grep rendering
[16:06] <radiounix> I'm having issues with sound on an Ubuntu Server setup. Running aplay tosses a long error message now that I added myself to audio, and prior, would just report that it couldn't open device 0. Running Mplayer tosses an error: "playback open error: no such file or directory." I'm afraid I may have to recompile the kernel O.o
[16:06] <forge> hmm gotta learn how to make that thing less toxic or at least give it config
[16:06] <katatafish> Jack_Sparrow: http://pastebin.com/d3d4b31af
[16:06] <masquerade> short question
[16:06] <radiounix> If anyone is interested in helping, I can post logs. Also, forget to mention, but I've no asound.conf
[16:06] <masquerade> how can i move files to an ssh server using the cli?
[16:07] <pegon> Dr_Willis, well the problem I have is I have a HUGE list of stuff I need to remove..and I don't want to have to set and look up every single package...anyway I can have Ubuntu either through apt-get or synaptic check this huge list if its installed uninstall it?
[16:07] <ranf> masquerade, scp
[16:07] <_Brun0_> Dr_Willis, bartmon : Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/m21c4dcae
[16:07] <masquerade> ranf: im sorry?
[16:07] <pegon> forge, ummm been a while since I did that but you ever try like openbox?
[16:07]  * wirechief-bughun is goes to lunch: Gone away for now
[16:07] <NimO> hey
[16:07] <cptblood> Piet: aha, i see... gotta try that out then...sry for delayed reply
[16:07] <NimO> how can i start fire effects
[16:07] <forge> why openbox?
[16:07] <jussi01> !away > wirechief-bughun
[16:07] <peter__> hello, I brand new to ubuntu, i just installed it yesterday. During the install at the partion prompt i selected to install side by side. as a result my partion is just big enough for my system files. Is there any way to make the partion bigger?
[16:08] <ienorand> NimO: do you have ccsm installed?
[16:08] <jondgls> Jack_Sparrow: Just wanted to thank you for your help the other day resolving my issue with my source.list. I removed the suggested lines for debian and Intrepid and I'm no longer having dependacy conflicts.
[16:08] <pegon> forge, thats the one I have used before and I know it has exit and right click and that..simplest one I found that actually works as a wm and you can quit it etc
[16:08] <radiounix> Yes, yes. You can use Gparted to shrink and enlarge partitions, but back up first just in case.
[16:08] <forge> I use KDE I was just toying with matchbox because I wanted to try out um I already forgot the name of it, Ubuntu mobile's windowmanager (which as far as I can tell is managed by matchbox)
[16:08] <Isopropane_> Hi
[16:08] <radiounix> sudo apt-get install gparted
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> #
[16:08] <Jack_Sparrow> jondgls You are certainly welcome
[16:08] <masquerade> peter__: you can use gparted (sudo apt-get install gparted)
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> _Brun0_: (II) LoadModule: "radeon"
[16:09] <peter__> thanks radiounix, and do i download that with synaptix
[16:09] <radiounix> If you wish, yes. Just search "gparted" with it
[16:09] <masquerade> peter__: synaptic, yes
[16:09] <jondgls> if I wanted to exclude my swap file from a backup which file system directory should I exclude?
[16:09] <Jack_Sparrow> katatafish that source list looks fine.. HOw long has this been going on?
[16:09] <forge> (I realize its made for embedded environments (ie not for desktops but doesn't mean I can't try it!
[16:09] <radiounix> Your swap file is mounted at /swap
[16:10] <andrews> I am trying to burn an ISO on a blank DVD.  I insert the DVD and Ubuntu mounts it as a blank DVD but the CD/DVD burner software says there is no Blank DVD to burn the ISO to. CD-Rs work just fine
[16:10] <ienorand> jondgls: It is normally on a separate partition
[16:10] <katatafish> Jack_Sparrow just for the past couple of months
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> jondgls swap should be on a partion of its' own and not be a problem
[16:10] <Isopropane_> I'm, having a problem with an external monitor on my laptop. I have connected the monitor and it displays correctly, however the maximum resolution in the screen resolution dialog is that of the laptop's screen - 1280x800. The external monitor is 1680x1050 but at the moment is only displaying the maximum of 1280x800. How can I set things so I can output the correct resolution?
[16:10] <radiounix> (still needs an ALSA kernel god with patience :p)
[16:10] <Piet> cptblood: thats fine. good luck
[16:10] <Jack_Sparrow> katatafish I am going to be tied up most of the morning finishing up[a aproject.  See me later if you dont get this resolved..
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> _Brun0_:  that module even tells what chipset it supports in the LOG.. how verbose of  it -> rightbelow the line -->  (II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets:
[16:11] <radiounix> I'm not too knowledgable, Iso, but you should open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see that A: you have two ascreens, and b. you have the right resolutions set for each. Supposedly this is a dog to get right w/ Linux drivers
[16:11] <_spm_Draget> using nvidia-glx-new with an nvidia card. My xorg works nicely, but after it started once, I cannot change to a different console anymore. It is like my frambuffer is not working anymore. Does anyone have a clue where I should start looking?
[16:11] <scripyy> HI room !!
[16:11] <Frayjin> Dr_Willis: I used "glxinfo | grep rendering" and direct rendering returns false and when I use "SUDO glxinfo | grep rendering" it returns positive. How do I get the rendering to work at all time? Cheers :)
[16:11] <bartmon> _Brun0_: Apparently you're using the opensource driver for ATi graphics cards. Also known as xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[16:11] <jondgls> Jack_Sparrow: I installed Jaunty manually and did not include swap partition. I later created the swap file in terminal and my backup deamon is backin up all 4gb of it. :(
[16:11]  * Dr_Willis wonders how the 'Radeon' and 'ati' drivers differ...   the radeon driver may be for the VERy old chipsets
[16:11] <peter__> i tried Gparted however it says that the max size is 6136. I wont let me size larger than that
[16:11] <psycovic> hi
[16:11] <peter__> sorry 6136 MiB
[16:11] <RobotCow> anybody else having a problem with google earth in jaunty?
[16:12] <Isopropane_> Anyone?
[16:12] <pegon> I compiled a kernel and some how I mysteriously left out my Sata Module in the make menuconfig...is there a way to add it to the already compiled kernel without having to recompile it?
[16:12] <psycovic> does anyone know a good way to force a computer to run at a certain temperature?
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> Frayjin:  all i did for my nvidia 8800 card was run the hardware-driver tool.. installed the 180 version of the drivers.. and rebooted.. I dident have to do much more then that.
[16:12] <forge> actually radeons being reused for newer ones
[16:12] <fragmonkee> well if you put it on the sun....
[16:12] <katatafish> Jack_Sparrow - no problem
[16:12] <scripyy> whats the difffernce between Ubuntu Desktop and Server Edition.. i think only GUI (GNome,KDE) otherwise after Desktop edition we can install all server packages... ?
[16:12] <lancel00t> hi, is there someone here who is kind enough to share any information with me on getting bluez >4.32 to work on Jaunty?
[16:12] <radiounix> Yah, peter. I imagine you need to shrink another partition before you can enlarge your Linux root partition. Should work ok then- if not, ask
[16:12] <forge> but Radeon is a subset of ATI chipsets afaik
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> forge:  so 'ati' is going to go away eh?
[16:12] <_Brun0_> Dr_Willis, bartmon thanks noth for attention. ;p
[16:12] <_Brun0_> both*
[16:12] <radiounix> @scrippy- server edition uses a server kernel tuned to Web server loads
[16:12] <forge> ATI got bought out by AMD afaik
[16:13] <forge> so its AMD radeon now I guess...
[16:13] <RobotCow> scripyy, i think the kernel is a little different for server version
[16:13] <bartmon> Dr_Willis: Other way round. ati driver is a collection for all ati cards. A subset of these are the modern radeon families, which the radon driver supports. There were other cards before the radeons, like ati rage and those are supported by "ati".
[16:13] <Isopropane_> I'm, having a problem with an external monitor on my laptop. I have connected the monitor and it displays correctly, however the maximum resolution in the screen resolution dialog is that of the laptop's screen - 1280x800. The external monitor is 1680x1050 but at the moment is only displaying the maximum of 1280x800. How can I set things so I can output the correct resolution?
[16:13] <_Brun0_> forge, yes ATI was bought. Lets hope for a better driver support.
[16:13] <Frayjin> Dr_Willis: I did the same, but my 3D apps aren't running under wine due to this error. Should I consider a reinstall of Ubuntu?
[16:13] <forge> I was faithful to them thru the 3DFX -> ATI change, but I think I'be just about given up
[16:13] <RobotCow> anybody else having a problem with google earth in jaunty?
[16:13] <andrews> Is there an extra packet to install for DVD burning?
[16:14] <radiounix> @andrew dvd-RW-tools (or something like that)
[16:14] <RobotCow> andrews, k3b is good for dvd burning
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> bartmon: so err...  is  ATI the name of the OSS/GPL driver now? AND radeon for some? or are they all getting merged into Radeon?
[16:14] <zhaozhou_> _Brun0_: the driver support nowadays from ATI isn't that bad, is it?
[16:14] <zhaozhou_> _Brun0_: it's way better then nVidia anyhow...
[16:14] <Schiz0> How can I do a command-line upgrade to jaunty?
[16:14] <scripyy> RadioUnix: Robotcow: after server edition we can easily isntall Gnome on it for GUI.. ?
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> forge:  i gave up on them back with my 9700 (5+ yrs ago?) :)
[16:14] <peter__> ok thanks, i have multi book with xp and ubuntu, gparted is showing 3 partions, /dec/sda1 at 224.40GiB, /dec/sda3 at 2.49GiB, and /dev/sda2 at 5.99GiB. So I would shrink /dev/sda1 and then enlarge /dev/sda2?
[16:14] <radiounix> @schiz0 sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:14] <_Brun0_> zhaozhou_, catalyst (for newer cards) is somewhat unstable.
[16:14] <andrews> RobotCow: I'll give it a try, is there a reason why Brasero would not work
[16:15] <zhaozhou_> _Brun0_: ah. shame.
[16:15] <forge> I didn't say I"ve given up already, I said JUST ABOUT given up lol
[16:15] <RobotCow> scripyy, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will give you gnome
[16:15] <Dr_Willis> forge:  other then one laptop i gave away recently.. I dont have any boxs with ati any more
[16:15] <_Brun0_> zhaozhou_, but its not forever
[16:15] <Isopropane_> Anyone at all?
[16:15] <lancel00t> hi, is there someone here who is kind enough to share any information with me on getting bluez >4.32 to work on Jaunty?
[16:15] <ienorand> Schiz0: "update-manager -d" I think
[16:15] <radiounix> @andrew. No, def. not, but K3b is the golden standard among Linux birning suites and on par with ever-iconic Nero 6
[16:15] <forge> ahh HILDON thats the name of the desktop I was looking for
[16:15] <RobotCow> andrews, i dont know. i never use it because i prefer k3b.
[16:15] <forge> its based on matchbox as near as I can tell
[16:15] <Isopropane_> ...
[16:15] <Isopropane_> I'm, having a problem with an external monitor on my laptop. I have connected the monitor and it displays correctly, however the maximum resolution in the screen resolution dialog is that of the laptop's screen - 1280x800. The external monitor is 1680x1050 but at the moment is only displaying the maximum of 1280x800. How can I set things so I can output the correct resolution?
[16:15] <j0ve> andrews: I have been using brasero without problems.
[16:16] <RobotCow> andrews, and you didnt say what error message you got from brasero
[16:16] <forge> can you try out hildon on a desktop case? and how difficult is it ?
[16:16] <raf_> hi ppl
[16:16] <b3n_> I need some advice on a server, since I'm going to be using Ubuntu I think this would be the place to start, I'm looking at buying the HP Proliant G5 tower, has anyone tried these and what issues should I be aware of ?
[16:16] <raf_> great ubuntu 9.0.4
[16:17] <raf_> better than vista
[16:17] <pegon> raf_, so true lol
[16:17] <peter__> ok thanks, i have multi book with xp and ubuntu, gparted is showing 3 partions, /dec/sda1 at 224.40GiB, /dec/sda3 at 2.49GiB, and /dev/sda2 at 5.99GiB. So I would shrink /dev/sda1 and then enlarge /dev/sda2?
[16:17] <bartmon> Dr_Willis: as far as i know radeon is part of the ati package. It says so on http://www.x.org/wiki/radeon
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> bartmon:  so.. im still confused about what cards are in what.. :) but  its not a big deal to me. hehe
[16:17] <scripyy> radio: you said it loads webserver in server edition so in desktop we cannot load auto webserver ?
[16:17] <[BoK]Ravenkin> anyone know how to run clamav on a full drive instead of directory by directory?
[16:17] <Isopropane_> I'm, having a problem with an external monitor on my laptop. I have connected the monitor and it displays correctly, however the maximum resolution in the screen resolution dialog is that of the laptop's screen - 1280x800. The external monitor is 1680x1050 but at the moment is only displaying the maximum of 1280x800. How can I set things so I can output the correct resolution?
[16:17] <pegon> bartmon, are you having issues with a radeon card? asking because I am on radeon
[16:17] <raf_> i have some trouble with webcam but i will resolv
[16:17] <nibbler> b3n_: i dont think you have to expect anything special.....
[16:18] <raf_> nice ubuntu
[16:18] <raf_> bye ppl complimenti per ubuntu
[16:18] <radiounix> @peter Is SDA1 your data partition and or Windows/OSX partition? If yes, then shrink that. I can't tell you what to enlarge, though, other than that it should be the / root drive and not /home or /swap
[16:18] <bartmon> pegon: No, we're just talking about driver naming. :)
[16:18] <andrews> RobotCow: It just doesn't find the blank DVD that is in the drive.  It mounts the volume but the burner software doesn't recognize the blank disc.  It works fine with CD-R but not DVD-R.  It has worked for both in the past
[16:18] <Jack_Sparrow> raf_ thanks
[16:18] <Isopropane_> Does anyone know at all!?
[16:18] <pegon> bartmon, ahhh okay :)
[16:18] <scripyy> RadioUnix: you said some thing about ubuntu server that it loads web server auto and desktop edition dont ?
[16:18] <pegon> bartmon, do you have any idea how to remove a HUGE list of packages all at once? apt-get stops after 4 of the packages aren't found
[16:19] <_spm_Draget> using nvidia-glx-new with an nvidia card. My xorg works nicely, but after it started once, I cannot change to a different console anymore. It is like my frambuffer is not working anymore. Does anyone have a clue where I should start looking?
[16:19] <bartmon> pegon: Well, the only thing i don't like is that my tvout isn't recognized but the hompeage of the driver says it isn't supported on my specific card so there you have it :)
[16:19] <sipior> Isopropane_: have you verified that the laptop's card is capable of driving a monitor at that resolution?
[16:19] <pegon> bartmon, lol true true
[16:19] <Jack_Sparrow> peter__ Please defrag in windows twice before shrinking your ntfs drive
[16:19] <radiounix> @Scrippy. No, no, I've just heard that the server kernel is compiled with tweaks that make it better for handling large volumes of Web traffic. The Ubuntu server edition doesn't come with any server daemons installed by default
[16:19] <fragmonkee> im sure someone else has had this problem with an install: when i install on a new laptop it gets to the language selection screen, i select install and the bar goes soo horrably slow..i left it on all last night and it still is on that screen..
[16:19] <melter> i installed 'ttf-bitstream-vera' and 'imagemagick'. in 8.04, ImageMagick recognized the fonts, but not in 9.04. is there something special i need to do?
[16:19] <peter__> radio: i believe that sda2 is my root. It is fat32 and labeled SERVICE001. Does this sound correct?
[16:20] <Abracadabra> hi
[16:20] <fragmonkee> ive tried from a flash drive and cd...same problem
[16:20] <Isopropane_> sipior: It has worked at that resolution before, so yes :)
[16:20] <Jack_Sparrow> peter__ NO root can not be fat32
[16:20] <andrewabc> I presume this is proper channel for casual tech support? sound isn't working in 9.04. worked fine in 6.06-8.10. I've tried alsamixer and other stuff. It is very weird. Sound is possible, but rarely happens. I created a thread here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1162276
[16:20] <Abracadabra> If I wish to upgrade some of my drivers, how do I go about it ?
[16:20] <radiounix> @fragmonkee- sure your medoa is good? Try burning at 16x on quality media or at least writing out another copy.
[16:20] <RobotCow> andrews, if k3b doesn't work for you, it might be a problem with the dvd drive.
[16:20] <desafinado> can i install "add/remove applications" in kubuntu?
[16:20] <bartmon> pegon: Well I guess you could call "sudo apt-get remove $packagename" for every package instead of "sudo apt-get remove pkg1 pkg2 ..."
[16:20] <fragmonkee> ive tried 2 different versions and checked the cd before install
[16:20] <Jack_Sparrow> andrewabc  there is also /join #alsa
[16:20] <radiounix> @abracadabra- sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:21] <Abracadabra> radiounix: any way of upgrading them manually ?
[16:21] <andrews> RobotCow:  Looks like K3B is working
[16:21] <TheBrayn> howdy folks
[16:21] <pegon> bartmon, true just this is a BIG list lol....I am trying to remove everything kubuntu installed lol cause I am using Xfce
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> fragmonkee Do you have a large hard drive in that box
[16:21] <fragmonkee> 250gb, not too large
[16:21] <jumbers> Why is gtk-gnutella broken in Jaunty?
[16:21] <radiounix> @abacadabra, sudo apt-get install 'packagex'
[16:22] <fragmonkee> ive had problems with fedora 10 also...im guessing it may be this pos box
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow> pegon see the link on puregnome and purekde on how we remove those, sorry I have not worked with xfce
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !puregnome
[16:22] <scripyy> thanks  RadioUnix and Robotcow..
[16:22] <pegon> Jack_Sparrow, ahhh thanks
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow> npo
[16:23] <Dr_Willis> I still dont see how kdelibs4c2 and kdelib5 removes all kde packages...
[16:23] <Isopropane_> Does anyone know how this can be remedied?
[16:23] <Abracadabra> radiounix: ok, ty (I thought that was for apps only, not for graphic card drivers, wifi drivers, etc....)
[16:23] <bartmon> pegon: First of all do "sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop" then try "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[16:24] <pegon> bartmon, thanks Jack showed me how to remove them...but thank you :)
[16:24] <radiounix> @ abracadabra- your drivers are built into your kernel. You will get a new kernel with new drivers when you update to Ubuntu 9.1. No, really :p
[16:24] <Jack_Sparrow> bartmon see the link I gave him on puregnome
[16:24] <peter__> radiounix: when i try to shrink SDA1 the resize option is grayed out. Then I select unmount volume and a triangle with a "!" appears next to its name and the only option is to delete. Resize is still grayed out?
[16:24] <xteejx> xsane isn't detecting my epson dx7400 all-in-one scanner, yet it says its supported in sane ref: http://www.sane-project.org/man/sane-epson2.5.html any ideas?
[16:25] <Abracadabra> radiounix: thanks :)
[16:25] <radiounix> Or, if you must be bleeding edge, I suppose you can compile in newer drivers. No clue how, but it can be done if say sound doesn't work because the alda module's too old for your card/chip
[16:25] <Isopropane_> ...
[16:25] <swoody> what's the easiest way to edit title/artist for song files? I can't do it by right-click>properties
[16:25] <Abracadabra> radiounix: that was one of the ways I was wondering how to do lol
[16:25] <pegon> Jack_Sparrow, I compiled a custom kernel...but I forgot my sata modules in the menuconfig...is there anyway to add them to the kernel install without having to recompile them back into debs etc?
[16:25] <Piet> Isopropane_: does your graphics adapter actually support higher resolutions?
[16:25] <Zzeiss> hkais: At least on my MacBook 5.1, the Nvidia proprietary driver fails hard.
[16:26] <radiounix> Well, if everything works, don't get started, abracadabra
[16:26] <Piet> Isopropane_: also check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for what X found to be supported by your hardware.
[16:26] <Jack_Sparrow> pegon NOt really, we dont support other peoples custom kernels, you can try /join #kernel
[16:26] <Isopropane_> Piet: Yes, it's done this resolution before
[16:26] <crass> has anyone had the repeating key issue?
[16:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Isopropane_ Try it without effects turned on
[16:26] <brandonc503> whats the command to see users  /ls -s or something
[16:27] <pegon> Jack_Sparrow, oh no I didn't mean custom like that...I meant from Kernel Source...I installed one just went through a removed stuff etc but I will try that
[16:27] <Piet> Isopropane_: if it turns out it should work, you can add a ModeLine to your xorg.conf and restart X
[16:27] <ienorand> peter__: I'm guessing this might be an ntfs drive? In that case, if you check it''s info, I'm guessing it says that you need to run chkdisk, from windows...
[16:27] <Piet> Isopropane_: it can also be caused by a limitation of the driver you are currently using
[16:27] <pdtpatrick> brandonc503 .. what do you mean by see users? you can type id <username> or search the /etc/passwd to see users in there
[16:28] <peter__> ienorand: thanks, yes it is ntfs. So if i run chkdisk and then re-enter ubuntu i should be able to resize?
[16:28] <Piet> brandonc503: do you mean ls -l maybe?
[16:28] <brandonc503> there is terminal commnand like /is -s or /ls -s somehting
[16:28] <brandonc503> ya thanks piet
[16:28] <Isopropane_> Piet: I haven't changed the driver.. what modeline should I add? The manual is rather high-level and makes little sense
[16:28] <pdtpatrick> brandonc503: ls -l gives you a long listing so you can see permissions and the owner and owning group of a particular file or folder
[16:29] <gnuisancev4> I'm trying to have one instance of wmii per screen on a dual monitor setup. i disabled GDM and put the following in my ~/.xinitrc DISPLAY=:0.0 wmii &, DISPLAY=:0.1 exec wmii (each on their own line).  Now when I startx, I get 2 instances of X, each running an instance of wmii.  My mouse can travel across both screens, I can't drag windows from one to another (as expected, so that's ok) but my primary screen will not accept keyboard
[16:29] <pdtpatrick> brandonc503 - to see users, say for example you wanted to see your user account and such, you would type id brandonc503
[16:29] <hkais> anyone here who uses successfully ubuntu 32 bit with 4 GB RAM and the nvidia prop. driver? (Standard Notebook, no apple)
[16:29] <mohammed> مرحبا
[16:29] <ienorand> peter__: normally that is the problem, if you check info for the partition it should say... I think
[16:29] <pdtpatrick> brandonc503: or you can search like this - sudo fgrep brandonc503 /etc/passwd
[16:29] <hkais> Zzeiss: okay Apples golden cage is always problematic ;-)
[16:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !arabic
[16:29] <LjL> !ar | mohammed
[16:30]  * LjL forgot.
[16:30] <crass> I just upgraded to jaunty from intrepid and now my keyboard repeats keys
[16:30] <mohammed> مساء الخير يا عرب
[16:30] <peter__> ienorand: i checked the info and it didnt say anything about chkdisk but i will try it anyway thanks
[16:30] <crass> https://bugs.launchpad.net/xorg-server/+bug/264196 seems to be it, and the slow keys work around kinda works
[16:30] <hkais> Isopropane: did you solved your prblem?
[16:31] <crass> anyone know anything more on this issue?
[16:32] <creator-cdsc> if i have more than one ways of connecting to the internet, how do i use a particular way? currently, eth0 (wired), eth1 (wireless) and ppp0 (some other modem) are enabled. but now i want to use ppp0 to connect to the internet, how do i do that?
[16:32] <fubaz> recently installed ubuntu 9.04 on ntfs via wubi, works great but want to redo as dual boot, wondering if anyone knows if that usually goes smoothly, have to resize partition drive c is winxp boot, plan on using ubuntu live to do resize or is better way?
[16:32] <yacc> Any idea what could cause my laptop to overheat (it worked perfectly fine with Intrepid, but after the upgrade to Jaunty, I've alread had 3 "emergency shutdowns" :( )
[16:32] <Piet> Isopropane_: the manual is probably still the best source for this information. you can also try to generate a ModeLine here: http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
[16:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !wubi > fubaz
[16:32] <Piet> !ModeLine > Isopropane_
[16:32] <melter> i installed 'ttf-bitstream-vera' and 'imagemagick'. ImageMagick recognized the fonts in ubuntu 8.04, but not in 9.04. is there something special i need to do?
[16:32] <andrewabc> @yacc maybe fan is not speeding up as it gets hotter?
[16:33] <henry-nicolas1> Hi, I'm looking for a cartography application : I should be able to place points on the map and then process the overall length (I could use google map but some parts are off the roads), any ideas about such application ?
[16:33] <openess> I get a lot of lag in XChat and my connection often times out, how do I solve this, any tips for settings?
[16:33] <tryagainhentai> hey guys u know dell ship some of there systems with ubuntu well will dells distro of ubuntu 9.04 have all my drivers ie will my hardware on my dell vostro 1510 work out the box using this distro
[16:33] <Isopropane_> Piet: Cheers :D I've used the generator.. where abouts do I put the output?
[16:34] <jakub> HEY
[16:34] <fubaz> yacc also check vent not blocked
[16:34] <creator-cdsc> i have eth0(wired broadband), eth1(wireless) and ppp0. how do i connect to the net using ppp0?
[16:34] <ldiamond> I am loading a RAID driver in /etc/rc.local, but I am not able to mount the drives automatically at boot. When I mount them in rc.local, they just dont get mounted and I have to remount them. Anyone know why?
[16:34] <pdtpatrick> openss .. use irssi instead?
[16:34] <tryagainhentai> hey guys u know dell ship some of there systems with ubuntu well will dells distro of ubuntu 9.04 have all my drivers ie will my hardware on my dell vostro 1510 work out the box using this distro
[16:34] <scripyy> can i use firestarter on vmware ?
[16:34] <andrewabc> @tryagainhentai  I'm pretty sure dell ships with 8.04. Unless they recently changed it.
[16:34] <scripyy> and make a private netwrok ?
[16:34] <openess> pdtpatrick: is it in repository?
[16:34] <tryagainhentai> no theres 9.04 now
[16:34] <pdtpatrick> openss: yup .. sudo apt-get install irssi
[16:35] <yacc> fubaz, the hardware is fine, I just upgraded the distribution. (and yes I checked the CPU fan already).
[16:35] <openess> pdtpatrick: I'll try that, thanx
[16:35] <jakub> HEY
[16:35] <tryagainhentai> its a dell ubuntu recovery disc which will install as shipped so am i right to assume my hardware should work out the box
[16:35] <pdtpatrick> openss: you're welcome
[16:35] <yacc> andrewabc, that's a good question, missing a comparision, it's hard to decide :(
[16:35] <Pici> jakub: Please stop just saying hey.
[16:35] <jakub> xD
[16:36] <jakub> i have a proble with my Bluetooth ! ;/
[16:36] <serpico> hi
[16:36] <andrewabc> I just went to dell.ca/ubuntu and dell.com/ubuntu and I don't see 9.04 anywheres.
[16:36] <jakub> i have 9.04 ubuntu
[16:36] <manuel_> testing
[16:36] <jakub> testing ?
[16:36] <jakub> what testing ?
[16:36] <manuel_> chat
[16:36] <ldiamond> andrewabc, doesnt really matter, you can upgrade to get the new one.
[16:37] <jakub> xD
[16:37] <Jack_Sparrow> manuel_ Please see thos topic of the channel, this is ubuntu support.. thanks
[16:37] <andrewabc> yes I know you can upgrade, but the persons question was whether dell comes with 9.04 with drivers etc.
[16:37] <edge> I want to delete a very specific set of files, I used ls >> delete.txt to generate a list of files i want to remove, how to i give that file to rm -v to delete?
[16:38] <Isopropane_>  Where abouts in xorg.conf should this go?
[16:38] <Isopropane_> Horizontal Resolution:   1680
[16:38] <Isopropane_>   Vertical Resolution:     1050
[16:38] <Isopropane_>   Vertical Refresh Rate:   60.00 Hz
[16:38] <Isopropane_>   Horizontal Refresh Rate: 65.35 KHz
[16:38] <FloodBot3> Isopropane_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:38] <Isopropane_>   Dot Clock Frequence:     149.00 MHz
[16:38] <jakub> EY ANYBODY CAN HELP ME WITH MY BLUETOOT ADAPTER ?
[16:38] <Isopropane_> ...
[16:38] <Jack_Sparrow> jakub Lose the caps thanks
[16:38] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste < Isopropane_
[16:39] <Isopropane_> !caps
[16:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > Isopropane_
[16:39] <Piet> Isopropane_: into your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:39] <Piet> Isopropane_: please do not paste here. use a pastebin instead
[16:39] <Piet> !pastebin > Isopropane_
[16:39] <jakub> i usea a SHIFT
[16:39] <Isopropane_> Piet: I know, but which section?
[16:40] <crass> edge: xargs -I{} rm -v "{}" < delete.txt
[16:41] <yacc> fubaz, naturally it's possible that Gnome is so much more resource intense, but OTOH, in Intrepid I've been running vuze, which provided the box with a nice background load avg of 1 at all times without problems.
[16:41] <edge> crass: what is xargs?
[16:41] <Piet> Isopropane_: the Device section.
[16:41] <serpico> Can i install xubuntu?
[16:42] <gnuisancev4> serpico: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[16:42] <serpico> I insert the disk into drive but when the pc start don't start the autorun
[16:42] <crass> edge: man xargs
[16:42] <Isopropane_> Piet: Cheers :D
[16:42] <Piet> Isopropane_: actually it should go to the 'Monitor' section, sorry
[16:42] <edge> thankx crass that worked Perfect.
[16:42] <yonarox> nickserv identify y0n4r0x
[16:42] <Jack_Sparrow> serpico HOw did you burn the cd, does the cd contain one *.iso or many files
[16:42] <serpico> many files
[16:43] <Jack_Sparrow> yonarox GO CHANGE YOUR PASSWORD NOW
[16:43] <th0r> serpico: is the computer set up to boot first from the cd drive or the hard drive?
[16:43] <yonarox> jajajaja, yes Jack_Sparrow
[16:43] <sdls> Has anyone noticed hard drive failure lately for external hard drives?  I seem to randomly get I/O errors.  I've even gone so far as to put in a replacement hard drive with the same err.
[16:43] <serpico> th0r is the the dvd-rom the firsh boot
[16:43] <Isopropane_> Piet: Thanks :)
[16:44] <th0r> serpico: have you tried to boot the cd on another computer to see if it works at all?
[16:44] <jakub> HEY
[16:44] <serpico> th0r no
[16:44] <Tribee> hey all
[16:44] <sipior> sdls: might be a connection problem, or a damaged enclosure.
[16:44] <Tribee> im looking for some help
[16:44] <openess> pdtpatrick: does irssi do several channels at the same time?
[16:44] <grawity> openess: Of course it does.
[16:44] <rob0917> How do you look at the channel topic?
[16:44] <serpico> but i tryed kubuntu and start a autorun
[16:44] <Pici> rob0917: /topic
[16:44] <jakub> i am lokinng for some help with my bluetooth adapter in 9.04 Ubuntu !!
[16:45] <rob0917> ty
[16:45] <th0r> serpico: those are the only two things that come to mind. Either the computer isn't booting off the cd or the cd is bad
[16:45] <serpico> but when i insert xubuntu don't start
[16:45] <Tribee> im looking for some help with multiple monitors on an ati card
[16:45] <Pici> !ask
[16:45] <GnuBoi> hey how to play mp3 in amarok
[16:45] <ser_> eduu
[16:45] <th0r> serpico: then the xubuntu disk is most likely bad
[16:45] <jakub> lol
[16:45] <openess> grawity: well, i thought so, but I can't seem to find how to.. perhaps I'm not paying attention reding the man
[16:45] <serpico> th0r but i verify the cd at the end
[16:45] <jakub> GnuBoi
[16:45] <jakub> where u from gnuBoi ?
[16:45] <serpico> th0r i think this
[16:45] <grawity> openess: /join #somechannel
[16:45] <GnuBoi> nepal
[16:45] <grawity> openess: Then use Alt-1, Alt-2, Alt-3...
[16:46] <jakub> ouch
[16:46] <Jack_Sparrow> jakub MAy I have a word in PM please
[16:46] <sdls> sipior: thanks
[16:46] <fubaz> !wubi
[16:46] <jakub> lol u wanna ply MP3 on Amarok ?
[16:46] <Piet> sdls: please pastebin the error messages
[16:46] <GnuBoi> jakub: yes
[16:46] <openess> grawity: ah.. alt is my friend, t'nx ;)
[16:46] <Tribee> im looking for some help with multiple monitors on an ati card
[16:46] <grawity> openess: Also Alt-Q for #11, Alt-W for #12...
[16:46] <Dvlpr> hmhm, somehow, my system is running autoconf2.5
[16:47] <Tumbler> hello
[16:47] <serpico> in this moment the automount say: impossible mount the dick (xubuntu)
[16:47] <Dvlpr> while that thing I wonna autoconf requires 2.6
[16:47] <sdls> Piet: kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sdd1, logical block 9
[16:47] <th0r> serpico: sounds more and more like the cd is no good
[16:47] <Dvlpr> the question: why no 2.6 version in lists of updates?
[16:47] <Dvlpr> apt-get install says that I run the latest version of autoconf ><
[16:47] <Dvlpr> >.<*
[16:48] <serpico> th0r yes the disk is no good
[16:48] <hkais> anyone here who uses successfully ubuntu 32 bit with 4 GB RAM and the nvidia prop. driver?
[16:48] <serpico> thank's for all
[16:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !coc > jakub
[16:49] <crd1b> Dvlpr: on jaunty, the 'autoconf' package is 2.63
[16:49] <sipior> Dvlpr: which version of ubuntu are you running? the default autoconf on 9.04 is 2.63.
[16:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !guidelines > jakub
[16:49] <hkais> anyone here who uses successfully ubuntu 32 bit with 4 GB RAM and the nvidia prop. driver? I am trying to use the server kernel (for the 4GB) but xorg will not start until I switch back to generic kernel.
[16:49] <yacc> Can somebody tell me why an unused and unplugged eth0 causes 16% of wakeups?
[16:49] <O|OO> sipior, I dont run 9.04
[16:49] <sipior> O|OO: then there's your problem :-)
[16:49] <O|OO> omg
[16:49] <O|OO> I run <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:49] <O|OO> if im not mistaking
[16:50] <O|OO> so how can I update the autoconf? >.<
[16:50] <crd1b> hardy has 2.61
[16:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > O|OO
[16:50] <sipior> O|OO: update your installation, or build it from source.
[16:50] <O|OO> >.<
[16:51] <crd1b> O|OO: is the autoconf package installed?
[16:51] <brandonc503> hey all
[16:51] <O|OO> apt-get install autoconf answers that the last version of autoconf is already installed
[16:51] <O|OO> <,<
[16:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !lol > O|OO
[16:52] <brandonc503> so im trying to upload files via web site... what should i set the containing folders chown and chmod to? and what should i set the file itselves chown and chmod to?
[16:52] <Piet> sdls: do as sipior said and see if the disk vendor offers low level tesing tools
[16:52] <crd1b> Dvlpr: what is the installed version you see in 'apt-cache policy autoconf'
[16:52] <nibbler> brandonc503: most likely it should be readable by the user that runs the webserver
[16:52] <sdls> Piet: Thanks
[16:52] <Dvlpr> 2.61-4
[16:53] <Jack_Sparrow> brandonc503 How  to install a bin.. chmod +x file.bin ; sudo ./file.bin
[16:53] <brandonc503> nibbler: can i have full privilages to my ubuntu user name and www-data im using for web site user?
[16:53] <Jack_Sparrow> brandonc503 But please check our repos first
[16:53] <crd1b> Dvlpr: I have no idea why it wouldn't pick that up; have you tried a make clean in whatever you're building?
[16:53] <sipior> sdls: Piet: he mentioned that a replacement disk gave similar errors, so i imagine the problem lies within the enclosure itself, or with the connection to the computer. of course, two bad disks in a row isn't completely unheard of :-)
[16:53] <Dvlpr> however, when I use ./autoconf -qweweq (some unknown option) it shows /usr/bin/autoreconf2.50: unrecognized option `-qq'
[16:53] <brandonc503> repos?
[16:53] <nibbler> brandonc503: this is not recommended. if your upload via web, the file will belong to webuser anyway
[16:53] <Dvlpr> crd1b, it doesnt even have makefile yet
[16:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !repos
[16:54] <Piet> sipior: that's why, if they were of the same stock, both can be broken
[16:54] <Isopropane_> Piet: That did nothing.. that made Ubuntu boot into low graphics mode where I had to re-configure the xorg.conf
[16:54] <sipior> Dvlpr: are you using an autoconf distributed with the source code itself?
[16:54] <Dvlpr> yea
[16:54] <Jack_Sparrow> brandonc503 HAve you tried synaptic or apt-get
[16:54] <Dvlpr> ah no
[16:54] <sipior> Piet: yep.
[16:55] <Dvlpr> I misunderstood you xD - I use autoconf of my system to generate configure script
[16:55] <brandonc503> i need to have it uploaded via web site....
[16:55] <brandonc503> thats the goal im trying to accomplish
[16:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !details
[16:55] <brandonc503> but if i upload via web, should i set to use the chown of the folder its going into?
[16:56] <lenswipe> can someone give me a hand with a logon script that aint working right
[16:56] <Dvlpr> and building autoconf from source gives a roflerror >.<
[16:56] <Piet> Isopropane_: that'S a pity... :-/
[16:56] <crd1b> Dvlpr: I don't even see a /usr/bin/autoreconf2.50 available in hardy's archives, so where did you get it?
[16:57] <Dvlpr> No idea
[16:57] <Piet> Isopropane_: best read up more on this specific driver / kernel module you're using and the options it provides then
[16:57] <sipior> Dvlpr: why the "./" in front of autoconf in your example? are you sure you're not running a script provided by the authors of the source code? what does "which autoconf" return?
[16:57] <Piet> lenswipe: put it on a pastebin
[16:57] <Dvlpr> made a mistake
[16:58] <lenswipe> Piet: a pastebin of the logon script? ok
[16:58] <Dvlpr> root@vladimir-desktop:/home/vladimir/autoconf# which autoconf
[16:58] <Dvlpr> /usr/local/bin/autoconf
[16:58] <sipior> Dvlpr: ah. try running the one in /usr/bin
[16:58] <Piet> lenswipe: right
[16:58] <lenswipe> @echo off
[16:58] <lenswipe> echo preparing to delete old drive mappings
[16:58] <lenswipe> net use * /delete /yes
[16:58] <lenswipe> echo old drive mappings deleted...
[16:58] <lenswipe> echo Mapping Drives for %USERNAME% on %COMPUTERNAME%...
[16:58] <FloodBot3> lenswipe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:58] <lenswipe> net use Z: \\samba\homes
[16:59] <sipior> Dvlpr: is /usr/local/bin in front of /usr/bin in your $PATH?
[16:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !paste > lenswipe
[16:59] <Isopropane_> Piet: Okay
[16:59] <brandonc503> lenswipe: paste.ubuntu.com
[16:59] <lenswipe> i know
[16:59] <lenswipe> i meant to paste a pastebin link in
[16:59] <ubuntu> I have an issue with fsck, my 64 bit machine seems to be freezing a lot with 9.04 64 bit, and now the hard drive is unclean, so I have a live CD in and am trying to run fsck (since recovery mode fsck failed) but every time I run "sudo fsck /dev/sda" I get an error saying its busy or mounted, and it's neither as far as I can tell
[16:59] <lenswipe> but it didnt work
[16:59] <lenswipe> it pasted in whole file in
[16:59] <lenswipe> sorry for that guys
[16:59] <FloodBot3> lenswipe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:59] <icio> I'm pretty sure I've seen a plugin for gnome that allowed you to open the terminal from nautilus at the current location -- anybody know of it?
[16:59] <lenswipe> http://pastebin.com/m281302c9
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> lenswipe:  you are usng some of the features of samba that ive never tried. :P
[16:59] <Daremonai> How can I know all the programs that are running on startup?
[16:59] <maco> lenswipe, not hitting enter every 3 words is also good
[16:59] <Jack_Sparrow> lenswipe Please dont continue to flood
[17:00] <icio> Daremonai, System -> Preferences -> Startup Applications
[17:00] <ubuntu> Daremonai: Look in the sessions program in system->preferences
[17:00] <sipior> ubuntu: you'll want to specify the partition, not just the drive: "fsck /dev/sda1", and so on.
[17:00] <Isopropane_> Piet: Thanks anyway :)
[17:00] <lenswipe> Jack_Sparrow: sorry, the reason i pasted that whole thing in is because i meant to paste a pastebin link in, but it didnt work and it paseted the whole file in cos that was still on the clipboard rather than the pastebin link, sorry again...
[17:01] <Piet> lenswipe: that's not pastebin
[17:01] <ubuntu> sipior: I tried that, but the default set up is to put swap on /dev/sda1 and the root file system on a logical partition in /dev/sda5 which won't check
[17:01] <lenswipe> Piet: huh?
[17:01] <Jack_Sparrow> lenswipe Understood, but then you spammed us with another half a dozen lines trying to explain
[17:01] <vordme34> hi, tryin to install ati proprietary linux gfx drivers to a fresh ubuntu 9.04 gives this: Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version
[17:01] <vordme34> default:v2:i686:lib::none:2.6.28-11-generic; make sure that the version is being
[17:01] <vordme34> correctly set by --iscurrentdistro
[17:01] <vordme34> any clues? possibly the drivers are not for ubuntu at all??
[17:01] <Piet> Isopropane_: you're welcome
[17:01] <FloodBot3> vordme34: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:01] <Daremonai> icio, ubuntu, these show ALL of them? even duplicates? - because am getting an error from exim on startup, seems like it's being ran twice or some other mailserver is being run as well as exim4
[17:01] <lenswipe> Piet: what do you mean it isnt pastebin?
[17:01] <Isopropane_> Piet: What section did it paste into again? I lost the backlog when I restarted X. I put a value in wrong
[17:01] <lenswipe> Piet: http://pastebin.com/m281302c9
[17:02] <sipior> ubuntu: you should be able to fsck /dev/sda5 just fine. the logical partition shouldn't be a problem.
[17:02] <Dvlpr> autom4te: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1 aclocal: autom4te failed with exit status: 1 autoreconf: aclocal failed with exit status: 1
[17:02] <lenswipe> Piet: any ideas as to why the logon script isnt mapping the drives for the users and infact in my case doesnt even run
[17:02] <icio> Daremonai: ?
[17:02] <Dvlpr> heres error of running autoreconf, sipior
[17:03] <Piet> lenswipe: "this is not pastebin" referred to your "channel spam" earlier. ;-) i have a laggy connection.
[17:03] <lenswipe> Piet: ah, ok
[17:03] <Daremonai> icio, none of the things i saw in "Application startup" shows anything bout exim4
[17:03] <nztal> i'm trying to get nic bonding working under ubuntu.  i seem to be able to navigate and ping my lan, but i dont have access to the internet. i can ping my router too.  anyone have any suggestions ?  my /etc/network/interfaces file and ifconfig output is here  http://pastebin.ca/1426485  i'd appreciate any help
[17:03] <ubuntu> Hrm, maybe 5 is the swap partition, 1 is clean, so maybe it's fine, curious it didn't mount, will reboot and see if it's fixed
[17:03] <sipior> Dvlpr: does /usr/local/bin appear before /usr/bin in your $PATH?
[17:04] <Dvlpr> root@vladimir-desktop:/media/ACER/trunk# echo $PATH
[17:04] <Dvlpr> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin
[17:04] <Dvlpr> if you meant this
[17:04] <th0r> Daremonai: exim is a server. It won't show up as an application
[17:04] <Jack_Sparrow> nztal If you type an address and not a web page name does it work
[17:04] <Daremonai> th0r, then how do I know what servers are running on startup?
[17:04] <th0r> Daremonai: it is run at boot from /etc/init.d; you need to check out runlevel editors
[17:04] <sipior> Dvlpr: i did, yes. change your path so that /usr/bin is first, otherwise you'll call the wrong autom4te and aclocal from /usr/local/bin, when you really want the ones from /usr/bin.
[17:04] <Daremonai> th0r, alright
[17:05] <billybigrigger> if i were to reinstall 9.04, would i loose my data on my two raid1 disks?
[17:05] <ceej> hey is DDR3 a lot better than DDR2?
[17:05] <Jack_Sparrow> billybigrigger not if you havbe a sep /home
[17:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !home
[17:05] <th0r> Daremonai: you should also be able to tell what gets started by looking in /etc/rc.0, /rc.1. /rc.2...etc. Depending on what run level yu are interested in
[17:05] <Piet> lenswipe: i was thinking you were referring to a linux login script. i can not debug windows logon scripts for you.
[17:05] <nztal> Jack_Sparrow, you mean a numerical address, say, for google ?  or something on my lan ?
[17:05] <Dvlpr> sipior, so how would $PATH look?
[17:05] <Jack_Sparrow> nztal Yes a numerical address
[17:05] <lenswipe> Piet: ah ok thanks nyway :)
[17:06] <billybigrigger> Jack_Sparrow::: ??? oh, no no, i have a 500 GB root disk, with a separate /home partition, and then i have 2 x 500GB disks in raid1 as storage
[17:06] <Dvlpr> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:...?
[17:06] <lenswipe> Piet: btw i dont think it is a problem with the logon script because it works fine when i run it manually...
[17:06] <Daremonai> th0r, mmm I need to learn abour run levels I guess, i donno what they mean... btw exim4 exists in both /etc/init.d/ and in /etc/cron.daily/
[17:06] <Jack_Sparrow> billybigrigger you should be fine with a sep /home
[17:06] <Dvlpr> or /usr/bin is the first of all this
[17:06] <sipior> Dvlpr: preferably /usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin...
[17:06] <Jack_Sparrow> just dont format it during the reinstall
[17:06] <Dvlpr> ok, thanks, will check now
[17:06] <billybigrigger> Jack_Sparrow::: yeah, thanks
[17:06] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[17:07] <nztal> Jack_Sparrow, that did not seem to work either
[17:07] <Jack_Sparrow> nztal it helps to know it is not a dns error
[17:07] <Jack_Sparrow> nztal HAve you tried bypassing your router?
[17:07] <th0r> Daremonai: yes, it is a good idea to have at least a basic understanding of run levels. And the exim in cron.daily might or might not be right. I suspect it is a daily cleanup job and not a daily rerun of exim
[17:07] <lscott3> Anyone use 3 monitors and 2 nvidia cards?
[17:08] <Daremonai> th0r, oh alright... I'm looking at runlevels on wiki, am assuming that's a good place to look, right?
[17:08] <ivonei> oi, alguem utiliza o skype
[17:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !skype
[17:08] <ivonei> instalei o bicho aqui
[17:08] <ivonei> mas ele dá senha errada
[17:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !br > ivonei
[17:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !pt > ivonei
[17:08] <ivonei> I dont
[17:09] <th0r> Daremonai: yes. You should know there are two ways run levels are being handled. Debian/Ubuntu uses them a little differently than Suse/Redhat/Mandrake
[17:09] <nztal> Jack_Sparrow, i am afraid to do that, i have at&t dsl, and its not very friendly with ubuntu os for pppoe authentication.  last night it fussed at me, for trying to log in on my laptop, which is the same os as my desktop (jaunty) so i'm not sure if it'd work at all
[17:09] <ivonei> ahahahahaah
[17:09] <Dvlpr> sipior, root@vladimir-desktop:/media/ACER/trunk# PATH="/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin" - right
[17:09] <Isopropane_> Where in xorg.conf would this -  Modeline "1680x1050" 149.00  1680 1760 1944 2280  1050 1050 1052 1089 - go?
[17:09] <Daremonai> th0r, alright... though I am more of a debian-related OS kinda guy... but I'm considering gentoo sometime soon.
[17:09] <brandon> #wubi
[17:09] <hkais> anyone here who uses successfully ubuntu 32 bit with 4 GB RAM and the nvidia prop. driver? I am trying to use the server kernel (for the 4GB) but xorg will not start until I switch back to generic kernel.
[17:09] <th0r> Daremonai: this one applies to ubuntu....http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/212
[17:09] <sipior> Dvlpr: you'll want 'export PATH="....."'
[17:10] <Dvlpr> ah
[17:10] <station6> every time I connect to a network using ath9k all my connections in my list drop to 0% although they are still there.
[17:10] <Daremonai> th0r, thanks... opening it.
[17:10] <piglit> where can i ask questions abouth the ubuntu store ?
[17:10] <sipior> Dvlpr: if you're just testing in the terminal, you can leave it off (force of habit for me, i guess)
[17:11] <Dvlpr> sipior, root@vladimir-desktop:/media/ACER/trunk# export PATH="/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin" - is it ok now? xD
[17:11] <Jack_Sparrow> khensthoth If you are tring to run the server kernel so you can see all 4 gigs and are running a desktop setup, stick with the generic kernel as it does use all 4 , but you only get 3.3 or so for programs
[17:11] <brandon> hey i just installed wubi AND i cant access the other hds on my system i only have one other hd but its not the one that wubi is there a strand that i should enter in to root help please noob.
[17:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !support > pig
[17:11] <Isopropane_> Where in xorg.conf would this - Modeline "1680x1050" 149.00 1680 1760 1944 2280 1050 1050 1052 1089 - go?
[17:11] <station6> How can I use madwifi-ng instead of ath9k?
[17:11] <sipior> Dvlpr: looks okay
[17:11] <Jack_Sparrow> !support > piglit
[17:11] <Dvlpr> hmm
[17:11] <Dvlpr> configure.ac:295: the top level
[17:11] <Dvlpr> autom4te: /usr/bin/m4 failed with exit status: 1 aclocal: autom4te failed with exit status: 1 autoreconf2.50: aclocal failed with exit status: 1
[17:11] <KaiForce> ozzmosis - the issue I had with performance in rdesktop was related to the graphic issues with Intel cards and Jaunty.  When I added the option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy" to the device section of xorg.conf, the problem was resolved
[17:11] <Jack_Sparrow> brandon Please see the wubi faq sheet, I personally wont use nor recommend wubi
[17:11] <Dvlpr> why it calls autoreconf2.50 OMG?!
[17:12] <Sorinello> hello
[17:12] <sipior> Dvlpr: what is the *precise* command you are using to invoke autoconf?
[17:12] <Dvlpr> autoreconf --install --force
[17:12] <Isopropane_> Where in xorg.conf would this - Modeline "1680x1050" 149.00 1680 1760 1944 2280 1050 1050 1052 1089 - go?
[17:13] <sipior> Dvlpr: and if you try /usr/bin/autoreconf --install --force?
[17:13] <brandon> ?
[17:13] <station6> every time I connect to a network using ath9k all my connections in my list drop to 0% although they are still there. Any ideas?
[17:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !wubi > brandon
[17:13] <pc_> Isopropane_: man xorg.conf says monitor section
[17:13] <station6> !wubi > station6
[17:13] <elmofriend> join/ #flirtcafe
[17:13] <k1> hi
 i just wanted to ask the difference between air mail and UPS express but it did not seem the right place here
[17:14] <Dvlpr> private messaged you the log
[17:15] <carthik> How do I renew an expired self-signed openssl cert for postfix?
[17:15] <k1> hi
[17:15] <k1>  ther gus
[17:15] <Piet> piglit: not exactly, unless they were recently packaged for ubuntu
[17:15] <Isopropane_> pc_: Thanks :)
[17:16] <k1> how canni get a funfile invertation
[17:17] <piglit> Piet: is just want to order some ubuntu stuf out of the ubuntu store but i cant find the difference in sent method
[17:18] <k1> help me plz
[17:18] <LjL> k1: if i understood a word of what you said, maybe
[17:18] <hateball> !gr | k1
[17:18] <k1> hhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllllllpppppppppppppppppppppppp
[17:18] <LjL> k1: don't spam
[17:19] <Piet> carthik: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/SSL-Certificates-HOWTO/x195.html#AEN215
[17:19] <Piet> !patience | k1
[17:19] <k1> how  cann i get belkinj n1 usb for linux
[17:19] <Daremonai> th0r, it is a very interesting article.. thanks :)
[17:20] <Ampelbein> k1: could you describe more clearly what you want to do?
[17:20] <Guest80179> hi does ubuntu/apt has something similar than presto present in fedora/yum?
[17:20] <akidd116> afternoon everyone
[17:20] <th0r> Daremonai: there are a number of pdf files on the web you might want. One that came to mind immediately is the SAG (System Adminstrators Guide)
[17:20] <Daremonai> th0r, i'll check thato ut
[17:20] <k1> im lookin for usb wirrles driver
[17:21] <Piet> piglit: sorry, can't help there
[17:21] <Guest78371> Rsync question: If I have a folder contains links to other folders/files and I rsync it to a removable drive, how can I make sure the actual files (not the links) are copied to the removable drive? Tell me if this doesn't make sense.
[17:21] <station6> kl: very specific
[17:22] <Ampelbein> k1: what usb-wifi-adapter? where is your problem? what kind of network?
[17:22] <k1> what cann ido for wifi for linux
[17:22] <jpastore> Hi, I'm having a weird problem.  Any ideas on why the index for the tracker application is corrupt and what I should do about since clicking every button does nothing?
[17:23] <LrdSivanicon> i have 2 video cards, 2 monitors and a TV.  I'd like the two monitors as my desktop and have a seperate x session on the tv that will have my XBMC set up, can anyone point me in the right direction on setting this up?
[17:23] <k1> i have a belkin usb n1
[17:23] <hateball> k1: It might be easier going to #ubuntu-gr and get help in your native language
[17:23] <station6> kl: what is the number on the back
[17:23] <k1> are you greek
[17:23] <station6> kl: for example f5d something
[17:24] <Guest80179> i am meaning that in fedora with yum presto plugin when i upgrade a rpm it downloads only files different   from old version. is there something similar for ubuntu?
[17:24] <Draco_1> hi there, I know that probably this isn't the right place to ask but I don't know any other: I'm having problems with Linpus on an old laptop, the x servers doesn't start and gives me a BSOD. In any case, anyone knows if there is an irc channel or forum or whatever for limpus? I found no links on their site
[17:25] <Ampelbein> k1: perhaps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=879987 might help.
[17:25] <Duster> Hello all.
[17:25] <k1> why #ubuntu-gr
[17:25] <Piet> Guest80179: i don't think there is something like delta packages for APT. and i wonder whether this would make sense.
[17:26] <LjL> k1: because, honestly, your English seems a little bad.
[17:26] <th0r> Draco_1: there is a limpus irc channel..../join #limpus....but I don't know what it offers
[17:26] <mcphail> Guest17311: as far as i know you can't do this with apt. There has been talk of adding binary diffs to apt/debs for ages
[17:26] <vito___> :Piet why not?
[17:26] <Piet> Guest80179: could you change your nickname maybe? just type this, where "newnickname" should be your new nickname: /nick newnickname
[17:26] <gonzo2788> Buenos dias, amigos una pregunta acabo de instalar en ubuntu 8.10 el entorno grafico de kde pero tengo un problema tengo una app tweetdeck y en gnome me abre perfecto, pero al cambiar el entorno grafico se queda como negra
[17:26] <gonzo2788> que sera?
[17:26] <Draco_1> thanks thor
[17:27] <andrewabc> no sound in 9.04. always starts muted. If I am quick when computer starts I can unmute and turn up volume, and music will play. but if I pause music for more than 5 seconds sound stops working. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1162276
[17:27] <vito___> where vito___
[17:27] <coz_> gonzo2788,    #ubuntu-es   ?
[17:27] <Ampelbein> !es | gonzo2788
[17:27] <soreau> Is there a way to disable the fading effect when switching wallpapers in Jaunty / gnome? It slows down my pc for awhile and I want it instantaneous
[17:27] <vito____> i changed it?
[17:28] <Draco_1> thor, there is no channel called like that here, maybe it's on another server?
[17:28] <th0r> Draco_1: don't know...I just typed it as I sent you and there I was <smile>
[17:28] <coz_> soreau,   http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6900489&postcount=16   maybe
[17:28] <Piet> vito____: it takes a lot of resources to build those deltas, and bandwidth is no longer so much a concern as it was in the past.
[17:28] <Duster> people plz help, How to delete ati driver for video???!
[17:29] <Draco_1> -.-
[17:29] <th0r> Draco_1: it shows as freenode.net when I join
[17:29] <chuck_> Duster, which driver
[17:29] <johny_> Hello
[17:29] <th0r> Draco_1: but I have yet to get an answer to my query
[17:30] <Piet> vito____: i'm on a connection with high latency, so that's why i didn't realize your nickname had changed already
[17:30] <Duster> chuck_ i installed catalist and it dont give a login screen
[17:30] <soreau> coz_: What other gtk+ animations? that's probably the only one I've seen, I think..
[17:30] <Duster> chuck_ on a laptop
[17:30] <ldiamond> I load a driver for my raid card in /etc/rc.local but then I want to mount the drive but it will not work unless I add a long sleep. Is there a way to just wait for the previous to be executed before executing the next
[17:30] <coz_> soreau,  yeah i dont know what that means either  other than the panel in gnome animatiing down on boot
[17:31] <johny_> Sorry. What option "relatime" in Fstab is?
[17:31] <vito____> :Piet so isn't there any active project in this   sense?
[17:31] <soreau> coz_: Well, let's see... I already have compiz so that's Plenty of animations for everything xD
[17:31] <coz_> soreau, considering  along with compiz   I doubt anything will be missed  by disabling that :)
[17:31] <Duster> Est` kto iz lyudey na kanale?
[17:31] <soreau> LoL
[17:31] <coz_> soreau,  :)
[17:32] <Piet> vito____: none that i am aware of, which really doesn't mean much.
[17:32] <vito____> i see
[17:32] <vito____> :(
[17:33] <chuck_> Duster, go here /usr/share/ati  do this sudo   sh ./fglrx-uninstall.sh
[17:33] <Piet> vito____: why would you need it?
[17:34] <soreau> coz_: Unfortunately, gtk-enable-animations does not exist in any package for Jaunty
[17:34] <coz_> soreau,  ? mm let me check here  for the gtkrc
[17:34] <vito____> I think it's useful expecially for greatest packages as openoffice. updates are a lot faster
[17:35] <Dvlpr> How to upgrade from hardy to 9.04?
[17:35] <soreau> coz_: Gah, I didn't read it. I thought that was supposed to be some program
[17:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !ru > Duster
[17:35] <yaris123456789> is there a way to mv a file to another location, but then when a program asks for its original location, it will point to that another location ?
[17:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !upgrade
[17:35] <vito____> it is useful also to do a dist-upgrade
[17:35] <ScottG489> What is the package you need to apt-get to get java?
[17:35] <raboof> is there any documentation on the concept 'groups'? so far all I could find is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto
[17:35] <coz_> soreau, oh ok no   but let me do another search for this there may be another options hold on
[17:35] <Jack_Sparrow> yaris123456789 Look up symlinkin
[17:35] <raboof> (i know how they work, but i'm looking for a good explanation for newbies)
[17:35] <morningwalker> dvlpr; its simple... just use the upgrade tool
[17:35] <dylan_> coz_, I fixed my res problem !!!
[17:35] <ScottG489> !java
[17:36] <Dvlpr> Oo
[17:36] <coz_> dylan_,  whoa dude  :)  cool   how?
[17:36] <Piet> vito____: well, if you compare to yum, updates with apt are already a lot faster
[17:36] <dylan_> found a nifty page that creates modelines, and only requires one piece of data instead of three (verticle refresh rate)
[17:37] <vito____> not if i use presto plugin-
[17:37] <dylan_> coz_,  ususally when creating a modeline you need the horiz refresh, vert, pixel freq, and ect ect
[17:37] <k1> what drivers that i cann i use for belkinwifi
[17:37] <soreau> coz_: It worked :D
[17:37] <dylan_> yep
[17:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !wifi
[17:37] <coz_> soreau,  wooo cool  :)  I will hve to do this as well :)
[17:37] <soreau> coz_: Thanks for the help man
[17:37] <coz_> soreau,  no problem as usual :)
[17:38] <soreau> coz_: I just created that file since it did not exist and restarted nautilus
[17:38] <coz_> soreau,  yeah I noticed it is not on my system either
[17:38] <coz_> dylan_,  very cool    I am glad because that was driving me insane yesterday lol
[17:39] <Kangarooo> what's the best programm to restore deleted files?
[17:39] <dylan_> coz_ yeah thanks for the help
[17:39] <Kangarooo> with gui
[17:39] <Vixen-> Does anyone have experience getting CS1.6 to work on 9.04?
[17:39] <coz_> dylan_,   well it wasnt me that did it but  certainly glad you got it working
[17:39] <dylan_> I think I will double back up the xorg.conf file
[17:39] <Zapper1> Hi all. I made the mistake of removing one of the background wallpapers from my appearance panel? Anyone know how to restore it?
[17:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Kangarooo Depends on how they were deleted and what format the partition had that they were removed from
[17:40] <coz_> dylan_,  yeah at least for reference in the future    rename it  so you know what it was for  :)
[17:40] <Kangarooo> Jack_Sparrow: firefox sessionrestore files so firefox deleted them..
[17:40] <Dvlpr> I dont see "Upgrade" button in my software manager =\
[17:40] <yaris123456789> when should you use hardlinks vs. symbolic links
[17:40] <axisys> where is upstart? man upstart finds nothing .. which upstart finds nothing.. is it removed from jaunty and replaced by some other tool?
[17:40] <jeremy_> Does anyone know how to view the last log file
[17:41] <grawity> jeremy_: 'last' ?
[17:41] <Jack_Sparrow> dylan_ cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.$(date +%m-%d-%Y-%T)
[17:41] <grawity> jeremy_: Or the IRC one?
[17:41] <Kangarooo> Jack_Sparrow: ext4 latest ubuntu
[17:41] <axisys> jeremy_: lastlog ?
[17:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Kangarooo Sorry I have not uses 4
[17:41] <Vixen-> Anyone with experience getting CS 1.6 to work with steam?
[17:42] <Zapper1> I guess not, huh?
[17:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Kangarooo Sorry I have not used 4
[17:42] <Kangarooo> well any file restore programm will work no? Jack_Sparrow witch is the best and with gui?
[17:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Kangarooo No idea what will work best or at all on 4
[17:43] <ldiamond> Does anyone know how I can make a boot script wait for a command to finish (insmod) before executing the next command (mount) without using sleep.
[17:43] <Nehyx> what will be the new ubuntu lts?
[17:43] <m0r0n> Anyone willing to help me out on uninstalling Ubuntu, or helping me fix something so I don't have to
[17:43] <dylan_> thanks Jack_Sparrow
[17:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !releases
[17:43] <Jack_Sparrow> dylan_ np
[17:43] <Tootoot222> lulz, epic names list
[17:43] <Nehyx> Jack_Sparrow: so, 10.04?
[17:43] <Tootoot222> anyways, anyone know a good DVD copying program?
[17:43] <Dvlpr> root@vladimir-desktop:/media/ACER/trunk# sudo do-release-upgrade
[17:43] <Dvlpr> Checking for a new ubuntu release
[17:43] <Dvlpr> No new release found
[17:44] <Slart> ldiamond: put them in a script after each other
[17:44] <Jack_Sparrow> m0r0n Uninstalling is as simple as installing whatever you want over it or deleting the partition
[17:44] <dylan_> anyways, I am trying to follow these instruction I got from a help forum http://pastebin.ca/1426530, and I am not quite sure exaclty what I should do, can someone have a look at them and explain to me what needs to be done ?
[17:44] <coz_> Tootoot222,  a dvd ripper you mean?
[17:44] <Kangarooo> Vixen-: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3507   its working
[17:44] <Tootoot222> coz_: well, ripping and burning
[17:44] <Slart> ldiamond: by default they will be run in order.. the next one starting when the previous one finishes
[17:44] <Dvlpr> why no new releases found? >.<