[00:00] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Pconfig: Doesnt exist at all :/
[00:00] <dwidmann> swatto: ah, if it was a package, the binary for it might have a different name (to prevent ambiguity)
[00:00] <Pconfig> CoJabo-Aztec: let me try to find out what the default one should be in kubuntu
[00:01] <swatto> well python 2.6 was already installed, but i installed python 3.0.1 manually from a tar file
[00:01] <swatto> how can i use it though?
[00:02] <dwidmann> swatto: keep in mind that python 3.x is intentionally backwards incompatible with python 2.x
[00:02] <Pconfig> CoJabo-Aztec: is there any partiton manager under system or utilities?
[00:02] <swatto> I know
[00:03] <dwidmann> swatto: and if you're using 9.04, you can install it from a package and maybe that would work easier (probably setting up an alternative for it at /usr/bin/python, if they did it "right")
[00:03] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Pconfig: Theres a Partition Editor, but it keeps telling me incorrect password?!
[00:04] <swatto> 9.04 only has package files for 2.6
[00:04] <Pconfig> CoJabo-Aztec: that's odd, what's it called?
[00:04] <dwidmann> !info python3 jaunty
[00:04] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Pconfig: Just "Partition Editor"
[00:06] <Pconfig> CoJabo-Aztec: hm, the only ones i really know of are gparted and qtparted and i can't seem to find anything about one that is on the kubuntu live cd by default
[00:06] <swatto> Ahh yes I see it, thankyou dwidmann - would SPM update itself to say I have installed python 3 if I did it manually?
[00:07] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Pconfig: Uh-oh...
[00:07] <dwidmann> swatto: SPM?
[00:07] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Pconfig: Do you happen to know what the max number of primary partitions is?
[00:07] <dwidmann> hmm, come to think of things, I wonder if PyKDE is compatible with python3
[00:07] <swatto> Synaptic Package Manager
[00:07] <Pconfig> CoJabo-Aztec: no idea
[00:08] <Pconfig> anyway, i'm off, byebye
[00:08] <dwidmann> swatto: if you install tarballs apt(including frontends for apt like synaptic) won't keep track of that at all.
[00:08] <Pconfig> good luck CoJabo-Aztec
[00:08] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Pconfig: There are already 4, that might be the limit :/ No idea why Dell would have done that :(
[00:09] <swatto> how do I remove tarball installations?
[00:10] <Pconfig> CoJabo-Aztec: http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/447245
[00:10] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Ugh, now what...
[00:10] <Pconfig> bye now
[00:10] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Pconfig: Thanks
[00:10] <Pconfig> i'm sorry i couldn't help you :)
[00:11] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Yeah, looks like I'm repartitioning from scratch :/
[00:11] <BluesKaj> swatto, sudo dpkg -r nameofapplication
[00:12] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Is it possible to hibernate without a dedicated swap, or is that assumed to be a requirement?
[00:12] <swatto> BluesKaj: that works for app I install using tarball?
[00:12] <swatto> any*
[00:14] <ralmar> Hey guys. Does anyone know an easy solution for throttling the download and upload bandwidth of a NIC? I used to use "wondershaper", but now for some reason it doesnt work anymore. I can use the commands, but they have no actual effect. Thanks
[00:14] <BluesKaj> swatto, aanswering is as easy as looking in google , but anyway look here : https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/add-applications/C/install-file.html
[00:15] <swatto> thanks :)
[00:17] <swatto> right best go to bed work tommorow unfortunately - good night all and thanks for the help/advice
[00:26] <ralmar> Hey guys. Does anyone know an easy solution for throttling the download and upload bandwidth of a NIC? I used to use "wondershaper", but now for some reason it doesnt work anymore. I can use the commands, but they have no actual effect. Thanks
[00:27] <carpii> ipatbles can throttle bandwidth afaik
[00:27] <carpii> iptables
[00:27] <carpii> maybe not based on service tho
[00:30] <bryan_> hello all
[00:36] <Magicman1264> Can anyone tell me if there is a way to use AOL with Ubuntu?
[00:37] <Dragnslcr> I would think kppp can handle dial-up connections to AOL
[00:38] <Magicman1264> Dial up   yuk    lol
[00:38] <Dragnslcr> I feel for ya
[00:40] <tekteen> I do not think AOL + linux works
[00:41] <xjjk> don't think you can use AOL with Linux
[00:42] <xjjk> their dialup system is incompatible with almost all standard dialup software
[00:42] <tekteen> http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialAOL.html
[00:43] <Magicman1264> Thank you for the info
[00:45] <Wunderkind> is there a reason why kopete doesn't just connect all the accounts when started?
[00:46] <Dragnslcr> Probably because you don't have it set to
[00:46] <Wunderkind> wrong answer
[00:46] <Wunderkind> i've checked and my accounts have vanished...
[00:46] <isAAAc-laptop> [01:42] <xjjk> don't think you can use AOL with Linux << you can , i did it on my brother home
[00:46] <Dragnslcr> Wunderkind- Configure -> Behavior -> Initial Status
[00:46] <xjjk> isAAAc-laptop: interesting... how did that work? they support PPP now?
[00:47] <isAAAc-laptop> i belived so
[00:47] <Wunderkind> lol, it just crashed on me
[00:47] <Wunderkind> again
[00:47] <isAAAc-laptop> i search where i found the solution
[00:47] <Wunderkind> this, is odd, my accounts are back
[00:47] <Wunderkind> okay, is there a way to get it work with evolution?
[00:48] <Wunderkind> or with thunar?
[00:48] <galvanize> was wondering how I could find out what version of KDE I have?
[00:48] <Wunderkind> about KDE
[00:49] <kaddi> my x-server crashes whenever I open a window in front of a running movie (no matter whether this is kaffeine, dragon player or vlc) Where would I look for error messages relating to this? X.0.log?
[00:49] <Dragnslcr> galvanize- Help -> About KDE in most KDE programs
[00:49] <Dragnslcr> galvanize- KMenu -> Help would be a good program to check
[00:49] <galvanize> Dragnslcr: Ok thanks.
[00:50] <Wunderkind> does anyone know how i set up kopete so that it only gives me pop-up messages when the actual message window isn't minimized?
[00:52] <isAAAc-laptop> Magicman1264: usb or eth ?
[01:03] <wtf> hiyua
[01:03] <wtf> which file to statically set my ip addres ?
[01:05] <ign0ramus> wtf, i think "/etc/network/interfaces"
[01:06] <wtf> thanx
[01:53] <galvanize> is it possible to make a bootable usb in kubuntu?
[01:54] <kaddi> anyone in here can help me find out why I get to login screen, when I try to watch a movie?
[01:54] <galvanize> tried using usb-creator, but did not work in kubuntu.
[01:54] <mikeh789> anybody got a slingbox??
[01:58] <galvanize> is it possible to make a bootable usb in kubuntu?
[01:59] <isAAAc-laptop> [02:54] <kaddi> anyone in here can help me find out why I get to login screen, when I try to watch a movie?  <<< disable the screensaver ;)
[01:59] <mikeh789> you mean bootable live cd iso type usb like http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[01:59] <galvanize> will i need to run that in wine?
[01:59] <kaddi> actually last time I did get crashes they were caused by the screensaver-package XD haven't used it since :D
[02:01] <oisi2004> algum br que possa me ajudar ?
[02:03] <mikeh789> no wine-ing... are you trying to make a bootable live CD g??
[02:09] <oisi2004> instalei o Kubuntu 9 e tenho Tim movel 3G, ele reconhesse o modem mais ñ sei como conectar
[02:10] <oisi2004> me ajudem plz!
[02:10] <skierpage> oisi2004, try #kubuntu-en , see http://www.kubuntu.org/Support por Kubuntu Español
[02:10] <skierpage> I mean irc://irc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-es
[02:11] <oisi2004> im BR
[02:11] <kaddi> !br
[02:13] <skierpage> So how do I search for files in Kubuntu 9.04 ?  Where's this strigi/Nepomuk awesomeness ?
[02:14] <skierpage> I know about `find ~ -name '*foo*' ` , I thought there would be something cool built-in somewhere.
[02:14] <curiouscuz> skierpage: its now integrated into Alt+F2 command app
[02:14] <curiouscuz> you have to activate it
[02:16] <skierpage> curiouscuz, OK... and KHelpCenter is completely silent about this even after I [Build Search Index] ?!  Where's this Alt-F2 thing documented?
[02:17] <curiouscuz> just Alt+F2 and click the preference icon
[02:18] <curiouscuz> that will let you enable the strigi/nepomuk
[02:19] <skierpage> curiouscuz, ah, so it's called KRunner, Settings indicates I have Nepomuk Desktop Search Runner enabled, but no help as to how it works.
[02:21] <skierpage> I've had test.html in my home directory for three weeks, KRunner doesn't find it.
[02:21] <curiouscuz> you'll have to enable it
[02:21] <skierpage> curiouscuz, to repeat "Settings indicates I have Nepomuk Desktop Search Runner enabled".  What else?
[02:22] <curiouscuz> i m sorry, you'll have to enable it in KRunner
[02:22] <curiouscuz> i understand you already have it enabled in Settings
[02:22] <curiouscuz> click the settings icon on KRunner and
[02:22] <curiouscuz> enable it there
[02:24] <skierpage> curiouscuz, I don't understand what your "it" is, but to repeat a third time, KRunner > Settings  > Plugins already has a checkmark next to "Nepomuk Desktop Search Runner"
[02:25] <skierpage> curiouscuz, thanks for your help, I'm just pissed off at the worthless "help" in KDE
[02:27] <skierpage> Ahh well, it's been fun but back to Windows :-(
[02:28] <curiouscuz> well, my indexer is disabled
[02:28] <curiouscuz> may be indexer is suspended on  your computer too
[02:34] <astrobear> can someone help, i need a quick way to monitor my network traffic
[02:34] <astrobear> and highly simple*
[02:35] <mikeh789> sling-box??
[02:41] <JabberWokky> astrobear: apt-cache search top
[02:41] <astrobear> JabberWokky: top as a packet sniffer?
[02:41] <JabberWokky> There's some KDE app that does nice graphs... and I tend to use darkstat
[02:41] <astrobear> i forgot about wireshark
[02:42] <astrobear> grabbed it
[02:42] <astrobear> and darkstat
[02:42] <JabberWokky> astrobear: That searches for "top-like" apps, several of which monitor the network.
[02:42] <astrobear> ah
[02:42] <JabberWokky> In fact, it'll point you to many top-like apps, if you like "top-style" applications.
[02:42] <astrobear> snort comes to mind, but i want gui
[02:42] <astrobear> gui for tonight just enough to figure out what's going on
[02:43] <JabberWokky> There *is* some KDE app that does it, graphs and charts and pretty pictures.  I just don't use it and can't recall the name.
[02:43] <carpii> cacti
[02:44] <astrobear> ksniffer?
[02:45] <JabberWokky> No, I can't recall.  Sorry.  And my wife is calling me to dinner, so I'm heading downstairs.  As a parting gift, if you've never used it, ngrep is not what you're looking for, but is nicely simple and good at what it does.
[02:46] <JabberWokky> sudo ngrep -c 200 GET |egrep '(mov |flv |avi | wmv )'
[02:57] <chode> http://rafb.net/p/PEGf3120.html
[02:57] <chode> thats my /etc/network/interfaces
[02:57] <Weedy> how do i undo deleting the bottom panel? I kinda miss my task list and clock :/
[02:58] <chode> is /etc/init.d/networking not the file to restart to apply /etc/network/interfaces ?
[03:06] <luis_> alguem sabe me informar como posso fazer minha placa sis funcionar 3d no kubuntu 9.04
[03:27] <idefix> Bonjour a tous
[03:30] <PhrkOnLsh> Is there any way to sync two resources in Korganizer? I'd like to link my remote resource that heads off to google calender with my local akonadi resource so that they sync both ways. is this possible?
[03:58] <Gamarok__> hello everybody
[03:58] <curiouscuz> hi
[03:58] <PhrkOnLsh> hi
[04:03] <MushroomKingdom> Hi, I'm trying to run PrBoom but for whatever reason it cannot initialize SDL, (No available video device)
[04:04] <vinicius> e aiiii!
[04:05] <vinicius> tem alguem ai?
[04:06] <PhrkOnLsh> guess he didn't want to talk.
[04:23] <Fieldy> !encrypted filesystem
[04:23] <Fieldy> !encrypted
[04:33] <Fieldy> !luks
[04:33] <Fieldy> ...
[04:33] <PhrkOnLsh> Fieldy: what's luks
[04:33] <Fieldy> something to do with full disk encryption, but i'm not finding enough info
[04:34] <Fieldy> i'm using jaunty and i'm interested in encrypting two external usb disks and the /home partition inside the system. i'm really not finding anything close to up to date information. any tips?
[04:36] <khalid_> como puedo instalar ubuntu 9.04
[04:37] <jamesjedimaster> !es | khalid_
[04:51] <PhrkOnLsh> why doesn't kubuntu ship kcontrol so that UI etc can be configured for kde3 apps?
[05:19] <farquaad> hola
[05:22] <farquaad> hoooooooooooooooooooooolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[05:22] <PhrkOnLsh> hi farquaad
[05:23] <farquaad> it is MiRC??
[05:24] <Gamarok__> thats one big hola
[05:24] <PhrkOnLsh> farquaad: I'm using irssi actually
[05:24] <PhrkOnLsh> farquaad: espanol?
[05:25] <farquaad> yes, spanish
[05:25] <farquaad> hablo español
[05:25] <PhrkOnLsh> !es | farquaad
[05:27] <farquaad> Ok, thank you
[05:27] <PhrkOnLsh> no problemo ;P
[06:05] <hs2> can someone tell me where to find the default /etc/apt/sources.list for kubuntu 9.04?
[06:10] <p_quarles> hs2: that *is* where...
[06:10] <hs2> basically i am trying to go from ubuntu to kubuntu
[06:10] <hs2> so i need to add kubuntu repositories to my ubuntu apt sources.list
[06:11] <hs2> i cant find a list of the kubuntu repositories anywhere
[06:12] <PhrkOnLsh> hs2: they are same repos
[06:12] <PhrkOnLsh> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:12] <hs2> really? i cant find kubuntu-desktop package
[06:13] <hs2> this is the first boot..
[06:13] <PhrkOnLsh> hs2: then your sources have more issues than just a difference between buntu and kubuntu ;)
[06:13] <PhrkOnLsh> apt-get update
[06:13] <PhrkOnLsh> then install that package
[06:14] <hs2> yea i guess after first boot update checker had not run yet and prolly didnt do apt-get update yet
[06:14] <hs2> that was the first thing i was doing
[06:15] <PhrkOnLsh> htg, gnite
[06:15] <hs2> thanks!
[06:16] <arvind_khadri> hi, is it possible to just install KDE without the apps
[06:18] <mandingo> how do i fix ext fs on sdb1 internal journal
[06:18] <mandingo> ext3-fs mounted filesystem with ordered data mode
[06:22] <PhrkOnLsh> mandingo: fsck /dev/sdb1
[06:22] <mandingo> k
[06:33] <dfrey> My taskbar seems to be frozen.  This has happened to me a few times now.  Is there a way that I can reload or restart it without exiting from KDE?
[06:36] <dfrey> I mean panel, not taskbar.  I couldn't remember the right word
[06:39] <dfrey> nevermind.  I figured it out
[07:23] <josemanuel> helo
[07:23] <Gamarok__> hey josemanuel
[07:25] <josemanuel> how are you?
[07:26] <josemanuel> gamarok
[07:27] <josemanuel> there are somebody heres
[07:29] <josemanuel> hello
[07:29] <josemanuel> hello
[07:40] <hume> hi... I am running jaunty, and just made a regular upgrade, however, now starting kde, there is no window manager (no borders around windows etc). What might be wrong? Help needed....
[07:51] <psych0> hello all
[08:21] <skierpage> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs tells me to use ubuntu-bug, but `ubuntu-bug khelpcenter4` pops up "UnreportableReason This is not a genuine Ubuntu package".  So where's *kubuntu-bug* ?
[08:25] <Mamarok> skierpage: that is uncommon, you should be able to report everything to Launchpad
[08:26] <Mamarok> skierpage: or did you install packages from other sources than Kubuntu?
[08:27] <skierpage> Mamarok nope, KDE 4.2.3 on Kubuntu 9.04.  Maybe I should ignore the [Details] and click [Send] anyway.  Trying...
[08:36] <robinr> why do I get a different run-dialog (Alt-F2) sometimes
[08:37] <robinr> it doesn't recognize kde url:s
[08:40] <skierpage> ubuntu-bug put me in a bugs.launchpad.net page, I've no idea what happened to its details
[08:42] <skierpage> Much of the "Ubuntu guidelines" in bugs.launchpad.net don't make sense for Kubuntu, like Synaptic, System > About Ubuntu, etc. :-(
[09:02] <robinr> örl
[09:02] <JabberWokky> ïndeed.
[09:02] <robinr> problem avoided, xfce4 was installed
[09:03] <robinr> JabberWokky: mind reader?
[09:05] <JabberWokky> Nope, but now I'm going to poke at xfce4 to see what the mini-cli looks like.
[09:05] <robinr> it's in xfce4-utils
[09:05] <robinr> but why is it activated at all?
[09:06] <robinr> could be firefox since I had the proper dialog for a while
[09:06] <JabberWokky> Heh: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-list/2007-February/msg00003.html
[09:07] <JabberWokky> I wrote my own awhile back.  I wish some of these allowed you to hook or inject your own parsing to them.
[09:09] <robinr> just add a one-line konsole to Alt-F2 and get bash completion :)
[09:09] <robinr> not sure how to do that though
[09:09] <JabberWokky> execute macro.  Fail?  look for app in $PATH.  Fail?  look for directory in $CDPATH.  Fail?  Kick over to KDE via konqueror in new tab (which tries as a URL, including quickurls and then fails over to Google).
[09:11] <JabberWokky> Super + key is the same as a single character macro.  So Control-ESC (my equivelent of Alt-F2) kicks up the cli, and e goes to Kate.  Or Super-e goes right to Kate.
[09:14] <ocs>  hi. I have an external usb HD, formatted to ext3. When plugged, the OS sees it. but I can't copy or create files into it. What can I do ?
[09:17] <JabberWokky> ocs: Did you format or otherwise use it on a different Linux computer?
[09:17] <ocs> JabberWokky: yes, same result
[09:17] <JabberWokky> No, that's likely the cause.
[09:18] <JabberWokky> Are you comfortable with a commandline?
[09:18] <ocs> JabberWokky: yes, of course
[09:18] <JabberWokky> Or would you like me to walk you through it with Dolphin or Konqueror?
[09:18] <ocs> when walking with konqueror, I see only lost+found dir
[09:18] <JabberWokky> Okay, go ahead and go to the mounted directoy.
[09:18] <JabberWokky> Or go in with Konqi.
[09:18] <JabberWokky> display the ownership.
[09:19] <JabberWokky> See if it's numbers or your login id.
[09:19] <JabberWokky> (Especially check the directories you were trying and failing to create files in)
[09:19] <ocs> how can I display the ownership ?
[09:19] <JabberWokky> (To do that at a cli, use ls -al.  To do it in Konqueror, use the details view, right click the header bar and show ownership)
[09:19] <ocs> alternatively, I can chmod 777 it
[09:20] <JabberWokky> Yes, but let's verify what your problem is before you just knock down all walls.
[09:21] <JabberWokky> (Especially as if you start down that path, you'll have to be doing that to every file you have on every system you use)
[09:21] <ocs> JabberWokky: http://paste.ubuntu.com/172852/
[09:21] <JabberWokky> Ah, ha!  Yes, in this one case, 777'ing the root of the disk is usually a good idea.  :)
[09:21] <JabberWokky> Especially since it's owned by root.
[09:21] <JabberWokky> chmod 777 .
[09:22] <fastfree> hallo, i'm a newbie of Kubuntu, I'm using kubuntu 9.0.4 and I had a problem with installation of amule 2.2.4 for dependencies, solved with installaton od amule 2.2.3+amule common deb with gdebi
[09:22] <JabberWokky> (Assuming you're in /media/disk, of course)
[09:22] <ocs> JabberWokky: great
[09:22] <ocs> now, another problem. It seems to work on kubuntu, but not on xubuntu
[09:22] <JabberWokky> ocs: No problem.  My wife deals with TBs of data on drives that she hooks to computers all over the place.  All different distros, all different permissions and settings.  Pain in the butt.
[09:23] <ocs> I know that this is not the right channel
[09:23] <ocs> but I wonder what's different
[09:23] <ocs> I mean: kubuntu sees it as plugged. xubuntu doesn't
[09:23] <JabberWokky> ocs: Actually, I have to head out to go drive somebody to the airport, so I'm afk for awhile.  Good luck with your other issue.
[09:23] <ocs> JabberWokky: thanks again:)
[10:05] <millun> hello
[10:05] <millun> what's the best way (the easiest) to print photos in linux
[10:06] <millun> i'm trying to teach my dad to do it
[10:06] <millun> gimp would try to print on a4
[10:06] <millun> but i need 10x15
[10:06] <millun> cm
[10:16] <Testing123> nice :)
[10:17] <Testing123> though i like XChat more
[10:45] <hdnzcl> :)
[11:02] <Assurbanipal> hi everyone, just bought a western digital sata hard drive and want to install on it kubuntu but get error messages on partitioning,can someone help me out plz??
[11:05] <reboot09> whats the message ?
[11:05] <Assurbanipal> i get input/output error on sda
[11:06] <Assurbanipal> i install gparted on the live session but it doesn't see the device
[11:12] <marcreichelt> hi there
[11:13] <marcreichelt> I want to install Kubuntu 9.04, but I am using a Thinkpad with an Intel graphics device
[11:13] <marcreichelt> are there any updates for the Intel graphics driver bugs?
[11:14] <marcreichelt> and does the Networkmanager Applet work with WPA2 again?
[11:16] <ced_> hey i got a quick question, how do i check if 3D acceleration is activated on my ATI HD2350 mobile radeon?
[11:17] <ced_> Cause games lag a lot more then they used to
[11:18] <Assurbanipal> ced_:  glxgears
[11:18] <ced_> okay, i'll try
[11:18] <ced_> "1210 frames in 5.0 seconds = 241.919 FPS" i guess it worked
[11:19] <Assurbanipal> ced_:  ok!
[11:19] <ced_> but why do my games lag so much then? Is there a tweak or something?
[11:19] <ced_> Thanks for helping me on the first part btw  ^^
[11:20] <ced_> gah netsplit..
[11:20] <marcreichelt> ced_: 242 FPS is a bit slow
[11:20] <ced_> o-o
[11:20] <ced_> yea
[11:21] <ced_> that's why i'm trying to find out what's lagging so much
[11:21] <ced_> i'm running kubuntu jaunty 9.04 with all updates
[11:22] <ced_> any ideas anyone?...
[11:24] <ced_> "270 frames in 5.0 seconds = 53.876 FPS".. I should be able to get more right
[11:24] <skierpage> marcreichelt, you could look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and compare it with advice for your video card...
[11:25] <marcreichelt> skierpage: you mean in relation to my question about Intel graphics drivers?
[11:26] <ced_> any other channel where i might be better of asking this?..
[11:27] <marcreichelt> ced_: maybe you should try the official (but closed source) fglrx driver
[11:27] <skierpage> marcreichelt, I'm not sure, I have an ATI.  I just noticed Xorg.0.log has things like whether DRI, EXA, GL etc. are enabled.
[11:27] <ced_> it doesn't show any ati drivers in the list when i click 'hardware drivers'
[11:27] <marcreichelt> skierpage: I have no ATI graphics card, but ced_ has ;)
[11:27] <marcreichelt> hmm, that's odd
[11:28] <ced_> when i type lspci it shows my card
[11:28] <marcreichelt> at least, I don't have an ATI card _yet_
[11:28] <skierpage> Sorry, I meant ced_  .  Confused, time for bed!
[11:28] <ced_> but it also shows 'vga compatible'
[11:28] <ced_> dunno about it
[11:28] <ced_> its okay x3
[11:28] <ced_> gnight then i guess
[11:28] <marcreichelt> I will buy a new laptop if the open source drivers for ATI cards are stable and come with 3D support
[11:31] <Freyr> what is default term in kubuntu ?
[11:31] <marcreichelt> ced_: have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[11:31] <marcreichelt> Freyr: I guess it's "konsole"
[11:32] <marcreichelt> ced_: there are no instructions for 9.04 there right now, but maybe it is safe to use the instructions for 8.04
[11:33] <ced_> "Enable accelerated the accelerated ATI graphics driver in the restricted-manager, then do: " It doesn't show my card in the restricted manager
[11:33] <ced_> it _does_ show my card in lspci
[11:34] <ced_> "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M71 [Mobility Radeon X2100] (rev ce)" although it's an ATI HD2400 mobile radeon card
[11:34] <ced_> i'm trying to download the latest drivers from ati.com now
[11:35] <marcreichelt> ced_: wait
[11:35] <martinjh99> Morning
[11:35] <marcreichelt> please run "lspci -nn | grep -i vga" in a shell
[11:35] <marcreichelt> there is a device ID in it
[11:35] <ced_> "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc M71 [Mobility Radeon X2100] [1002:7210] (rev ce)"
[11:36] <marcreichelt> k
[11:36] <marcreichelt> don't forget: you will likely get gfx problems on kernel updates if you use the official drivers
[11:36] <martinjh99> Is amarok2.1 Beta2 going to be packaged??
[11:36] <ced_> thanks
[11:39] <marcreichelt> ced_: if you want to try something different that is risky, too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonHD
[11:41] <ced_> the installation package from ati.com just failed at compiling the kernel module..
[11:41] <Bischoop> Hi all
[11:43] <ced_> hi
[11:43] <Bischoop> How can I find out WHY mine Kubuntu doesnt see DVD and RECORDER?
[11:43] <Bischoop> CD/DVD writer SORRY
[11:43] <ced_> marcreichelt: I'm following that tut now, thanks
[11:43] <marcreichelt> ced_: this sentence has a lack of all important information ;)
[11:43] <ced_> i guess it worked now..
[11:44] <ced_> should i relogin?
[11:44] <Bischoop> I can't use mine CD/DVD writer after UPGRADE :-)
[11:44] <marcreichelt> "the installation package from ati.com just failed at compiling the kernel module.." is equivalent to "my computer made a booboo at compiling the kernel module..."
[11:44] <marcreichelt> important is: what is the error message?
[11:44] <marcreichelt> ;)
[11:44] <Bischoop> NOBODY knows?
[11:45] <ced_> [Error] Kernel Module : Failed to install compiled kernel module - please consult the readme
[11:45] <ced_> i just followed that other tut now though, so i'll reboot first
[11:45] <ced_> right?
[11:45] <marcreichelt> yep, reading the readme will be helpful - maybe you have to install some packages (kernel headers etc.) in order to run the installation
[11:46] <ced_> oki
[11:46] <marcreichelt> ced_: at least you should know how to repare your X.org configuration BEFORE you reboot
[11:47] <ced_> yea i know that, i've done that before
[11:47] <ced_> and brb now, food
[11:47] <marcreichelt> I guess the failsafe boot item provides a simple way to do this
[11:47] <marcreichelt> hehe, me too ;)
[11:48] <gustavonarea> Hello. Is there are trick or something like that to *restart the computer* when X freezes and Ctrl+Alt+Backspace/Ctrl+Alt+F_ don't work? I'm hitting Bug #375358 *many times a day* and I have to press the power button everytime and it may harm my computer
[11:48] <gustavonarea> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/375358
[11:50] <gustavonarea> The "trick" I'm using right now is to go turn on an old computer and access my laptop via SSH, and then restart from there. But as you may understand, this is quite annoying
[11:51] <Walzmyn> gustavonarea, what's your laptop doing?
[11:53] <gustavonarea> Walzmyn: Anything. As I mention in the bug report, there's no pattern in the freezes. I can be using 10 applications at the same time for hours and it freezes, or it can freeze ~5 mins after login when only Konqueror was open.
[11:53] <marcreichelt> gustavonarea: I guess this should be a bug in the Intel graphics driver
[11:53] <marcreichelt> what is your graphics card?
[11:54] <marcreichelt> (run "lspci -nn | grep -i vga" in a shell)
[11:54] <marcreichelt> I have this problem too, that is why I returned to my backup of Kubuntu 8.04, which I am running right now
[11:54] <Walzmyn> gustavonarea, just logged in. Mine is giving me file system errors - bug reports seem that it might be thinkpad related
[11:54] <gustavonarea> marcreichelt: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
[11:54] <marcreichelt> hep
[11:54] <marcreichelt> yes
[11:54] <marcreichelt> as in your bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/375358
[11:55] <Walzmyn> I can't get kubuntu 8.10 to run, i've resorted to Xubuntu 9.04
[11:55] <marcreichelt> I have "Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device", though
[11:55] <marcreichelt> so it is definitely a bug in the Intel driver
[11:56] <marcreichelt> gustavonarea: see http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904#Display%20freezes%20with%20Intel%20graphics%20cards
[11:56] <marcreichelt> maybe it helps
[11:56] <marcreichelt> gustavonarea: just another question
[11:56] <gustavonarea> An a quite annoying bug. I can handle with the display corruptions reported in another bug at launchpad.net, but that your computer freezes many times a day with no way to avoid it is crazy
[11:56] <marcreichelt> do you have installed all available updates?
[11:57] <gustavonarea> marcreichelt: yes, all the time
[11:57] <marcreichelt> gustavonarea: thanks, that answers my question I had 20 minutes ago ;)
[11:58] <marcreichelt> gustavonarea: try the workaround on the web page I sent you - HIH
[11:59] <marcreichelt> and please notify me if it fixes your problem
[11:59] <gustavonarea> marcreichelt: thank you very much! I'll give it a try :)
[11:59] <gustavonarea> sure
[12:03] <marcreichelt> gustavonarea: of course you need to restart X before you can check if the problem is gone ;)
[12:15] <mariuz> hello
[12:15] <mariuz> any guide for kde 4.3 on karmic ?
[12:18] <bazhang> mariuz, kde4.3? not out afaik
[12:19] <bazhang> mariuz, unless you refer to the ppa in the /topic
[12:19] <bazhang> whoops
[12:19] <bazhang> *correction* definitely not out yet
[12:20] <Bischoop> jak wylaczyc powolne klawisze w kde?
[12:20] <bazhang> !pl
[12:37] <Thunder_Teaser> hello everybody :)
[12:39] <Haxident> Hello Thunder.....
[12:42] <Haxident> Thunder: you from Italy?
[12:42] <oliver____> hallo Ihr da
[12:44] <Thunder_Teaser> yes, haxident
[12:44] <Thunder_Teaser> anche tu?
[12:46] <Haxident> I'm from Norway
[12:49] <Haxident> I just rediscovered IRC, haven't used it since '98 :)
[12:49] <Haxident> Still as much fun!
[12:52] <Thunder_Teaser> :) me too, it's been since 2000
[12:53] <Thunder_Teaser> see you later, gonna have lunch
[12:54] <Haxident> Enjoy your meal :)
[13:13] <keymone> hi
[13:13] <keymone> who's idea was to make network management a separate widget?
[13:14] <keymone> and a battery monitor
[13:14] <keymone> why on earth would somebody want to do that?
[13:16] <phh> keymone: because everything is a widget ?
[13:16] <keymone> can i put those back into systray as it was in KDE 4.1?
[13:17] <hjb> hi. i've got a trouble with kubuntu 9.04
[13:17] <hjb> it's a fresh install
[13:17] <hjb> the "Network Management" status icon isn't working
[13:17] <hjb> it just shows "unavailable" for my network device
[13:17] <phh> keymone: install network-manager-gnome (don't scream.) and launch nm-applet
[13:17] <hjb> but the network is running fine :-|
[13:18] <phh> for battery monitor, if i remember correctly it should be called
[13:18] <phh> argh forgot.
[13:18] <keymone> phh: so no way to run native kde apps? i have to install gnome alternatives?
[13:18] <phh> keymone: no kde4
[13:18] <phh> there is knetworkmanager for kde3
[13:19] <phh> keymone: for the battery, i guess it's something like power guidance
[13:19] <keymone> ok thanks, i'll check those
[13:19] <p_quarles> keymone: you can move plasmoids to the panel, and even place them right next to the system tray if you like
[13:20] <keymone> p_quarles: i know but system tray has a neat ability to hide icons
[13:21] <keymone> p_quarles: but with separate plasmoids it's obviously not working
[13:21] <r3d> Hi :-)
[13:22] <r3d> this is my first time on IRC!
[13:22] <hjb> Hey everyone, forget about my prob ;)
[13:22] <hjb> i solved it
[13:31] <r3d> I cant reload repositories, it stops at (55 of 57)!
[13:32] <bazhang> r3d, please paste.ubuntu.com with the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:32] <Gamarok__> guys are there any kubuntu remasters available out there with a littel more apps and perhaps the linux restricted extras package installed coz i found many such for ubuntu
[13:36] <isAAAc-laptop> Gamarok__: remasters ? depositaries ?
[13:37] <Gamarok__> remasters
[13:40] <isAAAc-laptop> what are you meaning by remasters (sory i'm not native english speaking )
[13:40] <vbgunz> I have a dual monitor setup. 1920x1080x2... when working in a terminal that is on the second monitor, the terminal is unresponsive to mouse clicks on text that sits about 1/8 on the far right. is there a way to increase this limit?
[13:41] <bazhang> !remaster
[13:43] <Gamarok__> hey thanks for the links ubottu
[13:48] <roberto_> ciao
[13:48] <roberto_> !list
[13:52] <white_pelican> hi, I need help with wigets
[13:52] <white_pelican> widgets even
[13:52] <white_pelican> might help if I spelled it right :)
[13:52] <white_pelican> there is a widget I am interested in installing
[13:52] <white_pelican> but it looks like it has to be built
[13:53] <white_pelican> would I do it the standard way? ie configure, make and then make install?
[14:04] <rezus> hi
[14:11] <Gamarok__> bye everyone
[14:14] <afeijo> I installed kde partition manager, but it dont open
[14:14] <afeijo> what is the command so I can test thru shell?
[14:15] <rmrfslash> Can I use the nm plasmoid w/ a PCF file?
[14:15] <Thunder_Teaser> @ afeijo: ls /usr/bin |grep part
[14:15] <rmrfslash> Also can I use the nm plasmoid w/ a vpnc config file?
[14:15] <Thunder_Teaser> and look for it
[14:16] <afeijo> rmrfslash: thanks
[14:16] <afeijo> ops
[14:16] <afeijo> Thunder_Teaser: thanks
[14:17] <Thunder_Teaser> :)
[14:17] <rmrfslash> afeijo: ?
[14:18] <afeijo> didnt work... can I use fdisk to format a usb drive?
[14:20] <rmrfslash> afeijo: why can I not authenticate my waller now
[14:20] <rmrfslash> woops
[14:20] <rmrfslash> afeijo: that wasn't meant 4 you
[14:20] <rmrfslash> :-/
[14:21] <afeijo> ok :)
[14:23] <rmrfslash_> Wow... having a rough day w/ kubuntu right now
[14:24] <rmrfslash_> Error opening the waller 'kdewaller' Error code: -2: Error opening file.
[14:24] <rmrfslash_> Anyone see this?
[14:25] <rmrfslash_> Somehow my wallet file was owned by root.
[14:25] <rmrfslash_> How wonderful.
[14:25] <rmrfslash_> All of a sudden root decided to own my wallet.
[14:26] <rmrfslash_> Root is becoming self-aware
[14:26] <BluesKaj> Good Day folks
[14:28] <rmrfslash_> Cool, VPN settings in nm plasmoid aren't saved.
[14:28] <zer0o> NEXUIZ issue. won't load next level. CSQC unloaded. any idea?
[14:43] <Rtysfahd> Hello for All. I have little trouble, please help me. I may Hibernate system, but suspend dony work. System boot normaly, snapshot in swap patrition not boot.
[14:50] <corpo> Buenas..
[14:51] <corpo> Excuse-me how go to irc spanish?
[14:51] <Pici> corpo: /join #ubuntu-es
[14:51] <corpo> thanks very much pici
[14:52]  * genii feeds Pici more cookies and coffee
[14:57] <Rtysfahd> Hello for All. I have little trouble, please help me. I may Hibernate system, but suspend dony work. System boot normaly, snapshot in swap patrition not boot.
[14:57] <Rtysfahd> Всем добрый вечер.
[14:57] <kgx> is there any application in kde4.2 that minimizes applications to the system tray? i use kdocker on 3.5, but it doesn't work on 4.2
[14:58] <Guest25406> alltotray i think it's called
[14:58] <Guest25406> it's in add/remove, just search for TRAY and you'll see it, blue square icon :)
[14:58] <Guest25406> welcome to linus
[14:58] <Guest25406> *linux
[14:58] <BluesKaj> !ru | Rtysfahd
[15:00] <neutrix> Hi all, I'm new to Kubuntu, but not linux. Really liking the look of KDE 4.2.2. How is everyone?
[15:11] <seest> hej
[15:12] <seest> nogen der ved hvordan man får kubuntu 9.04 på trådløst net?
[15:12] <gareth_> anyone here think they could help me with automating some file manipulation?
[15:13] <seest> anyone in here who knows how to connet kubuntu 9.04 to wireless connection?
[15:13] <neutrix> What are you trying to do gareth_?
[15:14] <gareth_> I have a command here for pairing up files and writing them into zip files
[15:14] <gareth_> it just goes through a whole directory and creates many zips each containing one mp3 and one cdg file of the same name
[15:15] <gareth_> I'd like to change that file to instead create a text file containing all the filenames in a directory
[15:15] <gareth_> and again to rename all those files 0001.zip, 0002.zip etc
[15:16] <neutrix> gareth_: can you post your current script here: http://pastebin.com/
[15:17] <gareth_> any ideas?
[15:17] <neutrix> and I'll see what I can do
[15:17] <gareth_> hang on then
[15:17] <BluesKaj> seest, add the Network Manager widget to the panel, right click on the icon choose network management , and proceed from there
[15:19] <seest> blueskaj
[15:19] <gareth_> done
[15:20] <seest> what shcould i do after i have opened network manager?
[15:20] <neutrix> cool, looking now gareth_

[15:21] <gareth_> that one uses a directory full of mp3s and one full of cdg files. now I have them all in zips I have just one dir of files. I want to save all the filenames to a text file, then I want to rename them as just numbers
[15:21] <seest> brb
[15:21] <gareth_> make sense?
[15:22] <neutrix> gareth, just add "ls ./*.mp3 >> filelist.txt;" to the beginning of the script and it'll write all the files to filelist.txt
[15:23] <neutrix> Full script here gareth_ http://pastebin.com/m424acd98
[15:23] <gareth_> ok great, what about then renaming all the zip files as 0001.zip, 0002.zip etc?
[15:23] <neutrix> oh yeah, 1 sec
[15:24] <BluesKaj> seest, right click on the icon choose manage connections
[15:25] <neutrix> OK, probably best to define an integer variable which starts at 1 and increments every loop
[15:25] <neutrix> Then use that instead of the filename for the output
[15:25] <neutrix> I haven't done much shell scripting
[15:25] <neutrix> so I dont know the exact syntax i'm afriad
[15:25] <gareth_> that's the idea but I've never really done any myself
[15:26] <gareth_> I could do it in dos easy, but long file names etc, etc
[15:28] <seest> i haven't figured out how to open yet?
[15:28] <seest> the only way i can see network management is from system settings
[15:29] <desafinado> folks, is it important to use firewall program like firestarter while we're downloading via torrent?
[15:29] <BluesKaj> seest, did you open widgets in the panel and add network manager?
[15:29] <gareth_> anyway, thanks neutrix. I'm half way to saving myself weeks of work!
[15:30] <seest> no how schould i do that? i am pretty new to kubuntu
[15:30] <corigo> How to install Krusader 2 on 64bit K.9.04?
[15:31] <BluesKaj> seest, do you see the cashew thingy icon in the corner of the panel , click on it , choose "add widgets"
[15:31] <Mamarok> corigo: check the repositories
[15:31] <Mamarok> !info Krusader
[15:31] <Mamarok> !info Krusader2
[15:32] <Mamarok> !info Krusader 2
[15:32] <Mamarok> ok, let's check my repos
[15:32] <Guest8649> hey all, ive just installed jaunty on my acer aspire 5100, and cannot find the video card drivers anywhere. i've got an ATI Radeon X1100, but on the ati website, i only see the x800 and the x1300 series where the x1100 should be... do i install higher or lower or something else entirely?
[15:32] <corigo> are they going fix KPackage so that it will search against both capitals and lower case?
[15:32] <seest> yes done now
[15:33] <Mamarok> corigo: stop bitching, if you respect the casse it works perfectly well
[15:33] <Mamarok> no need to use capital letters at all
[15:34] <Mamarok> and, Krusader is in the univers repositories
[15:34] <BluesKaj> seest, now right click on the that new icon looks like a white plug, manage connections
[15:34] <neutrix> np gareth_, sorry i couldn't be more help
[15:34] <corigo> I don't search Google with case sensitivity...
[15:34] <Regrel> can anyone help me on this videoinstall?
[15:34] <gareth_> no problem
[15:34] <neutrix> maybe someone else knows more than me
[15:35] <seest> yes, now i see a window with 3 tabs
[15:35] <BluesKaj> seest, manage connections
[15:35] <BluesKaj> seest, choose wireless
[15:35] <seest> yes
[15:36] <seest> wireless choosen
[15:36] <BluesKaj> seest now fill in the info required and use the same setup you had in whatever OS you used before kubuntu
[15:37] <seest> okay, where can i see bssid?
[15:38] <devastation31> hi everybody
[15:38] <BluesKaj> seest, sorry , dunno :(
[15:38] <BluesKaj> i have to go anyway ..good luck , seest maybe someone else can help you now
[15:38] <seest> okay, i try to look in the router info but thank you for your help
[15:54] <mickru> Hi, I try to run valgrind --tool=callgrind on an application that requires root access. But the callgrind profile file is always empty in the end
[15:54] <mickru> I opened a root shell to start the application: sudo su
[15:55] <mickru> has anyone tried to run callgrind on an app running as root under kubuntu?
[15:56] <genii> mickru: App debugging/memory profiling etc is a bit beyond the usual scope of this channel. Perhaps enquire in #ubuntu-motu or in #kubuntu-devel
[15:56] <mickru> ok, will do, thanks
[15:57] <elitrou> hi there
[15:59] <ubuntu_> alright; i need help, and not just from a shrink
[15:59] <kaddi> hi, how can i reenable the ctrl-alt-del for restarting x-server?
[16:00] <ubuntu_> I brought a ubuntu live CD into my work to troubleshoot some things.
[16:00] <kaddi> (for jaunty that is ;) )
[16:00] <ubuntu_> I'm on it now. But when I restart and boot to windows, my network says it's disconnected, even though the cable is plugged in
[16:00] <elitrou> since the update to jaunty system tends to freeze
[16:00] <ubuntu_> i've rebuilt the TCP/IP stack for windows
[16:00] <ubuntu_> and I've reinstalled drivers
[16:00] <ubuntu_> no luck
[16:01] <ubuntu_> but ubuntu live cd finds the network just fine
[16:01] <elitrou> kaddi - try to play with dontzap
[16:01] <ubuntu_> the hardware IS working, but since i booted in ubuntu, windows cannot tell if it's connected or not
[16:01] <ubuntu_> anybody ever run into that?
[16:01] <kaddi> elitrou i used the dontzap -d but i still can't use it
[16:02] <kaddi> elitrou: let me check... brb
[16:05] <kaddi> elitrou: thanks it's working now... just takes 10-15seconds to shut x-server down :(
[16:27] <Oceanwatcher> does anyone know how to print to pdf in Kubuntu? I kinda expected that to be installed by default, but I can not find it...
[16:29] <phh> Oceanwatcher: hum.. file -> print -> print to pdf... as usual
[16:31] <myrtille> sorry, my laptop obviously thinks it should be giving me hell as well.. if somebody answered to my problem with the freezes every5-10min could you please repeat the reply, as i didn't see it
[16:31] <Oceanwatcher> phh: And that is not available in Thunderbird... So the way I see it, this is not a "printer" that is available to all programs, only a function in some of the KDE programs?
[16:31] <phh> oh well yes
[16:32] <Oceanwatcher> So my questions stands...
[16:33] <phh> go to http://localhost:631, in administration you can "add  detected printers", normaly in one of these, there is a pdf one
[16:35] <ahmed> i installed samba, samba-common, samba-tools, system-config-samba but it doesnt work it just appears on panel for 4 seconds then disappeared i want to configure samba  with gui application i dont like to edit in smb.conf
[16:39] <ahmed> anybody help me      here i installed samba, samba-common, samba-tools, system-config-samba but it doesnt work it just appears on panel for 4 seconds then disappeared i want to configure samba  with gui application i dont like to edit in smb.conf
[16:40] <Ahmuck> is ubuntu not allowing playback of encrypted dvd's anymore?
[16:40] <robin0800> ahmed: I think you also need kde file sharing installed
[16:40] <phh> ahmed: they have never been in some states ...
[16:41] <phh> euh
[16:41] <phh> sorry
[16:41] <phh> Ahmuck: they have never been in some states
[16:41] <Oceanwatcher> phh: Did not find any add detected printers. I have add printers, find new printers and manage printers. Find new and manage do not have any pdf options...
[16:42] <phh> Oceanwatcher: mm i no longer have it... but in add printers i have a "pdf printer" option
[16:42] <phh> "pdf writing"*
[16:43] <ahmed> robin0800: what i have to install now ididnt understand what u sayed
[16:43] <ahmed> phh: what i have to do?
[16:44] <phh> ahmed: well no sorry, it wasn't for you, i don't know anything about samba
[16:44] <ahmed> phh:nevermind
[16:45] <robin0800> ahmed: kdenetwork-filesharing
[16:45] <ahmed> robin0800: I checked now I have kdenetwork-filesharing installed too
[16:46] <Oceanwatcher> I tried adding a printer, but no PDF option here. Maybe I do not have cups-pdf installed.
[16:46] <robin0800> ahmed: You may need a reboot
[16:46] <phh> Oceanwatcher: no idea which package it is then :/
[16:47] <ahmed> robin0800: I didnt installed it now it was already installed from several days ago
[16:47] <Byron> Hello all. I'm trying to make my own messenger, but am wondering what I would need in order to do so. Also, how can I make a simple bash script executable in a Windows system?
[16:47] <Oceanwatcher> phh: Just checked - the package is cups-pdf and I do not have it installed. Gonna try and see if it helps.
[16:47] <phh> ok
[16:48] <ahmed> robin0800:After i installed everything i rebooted then i tried to run system-config-samba it didnt work
[16:48] <kaddi> anyone has any idea what i could do to prevent the freezing issues? i can't use my pc anymore :(
[16:48] <robin0800> ahmed: Try the icon in the settings
[16:50] <ahmed> I opened system setting - advanced - samba it worked but the page is too long and the end of the page i cannt see it i cannt see the save or apply button
[16:51] <ahmed> robin0800:I opened system setting - advanced - samba it worked but the page is too long and the end of the page i cannt see it i cannt see the save or apply button
[16:51] <Oceanwatcher> phh: Now I got CUPS-PDF (Virtual PDF Printer) in the drop-down :-) I think I am on the way to solve this. Thanks.
[16:51] <phh> Oceanwatcher: fine then :)
[16:53] <ahmed> robin0800:I opened system setting - advanced - samba it worked but the page is too long and the end of the page i cannt see it i cannt see the save or apply button
[16:56] <ahmed> robin0800:I opened system setting - advanced - samba it worked but the page is too long and the end of the page i cannt see it i cannt see the save or apply button
[16:57] <phh> ahmed: then move it to see the buttons ....
[16:59] <Oceanwatcher> phh: I got the printer in Thunderbird. Everything seemed to work ok. But now I have to find out where the file was saved :-)
[16:59] <Oceanwatcher> It is not in my home
[16:59] <phh> Oceanwatcher: ouch
[16:59] <ubuntu_> hi2all. i tried to instal grub4dos on my flash (2gb, 1 partitions, ntfs) but it can boot only with notebook. when i try to boot with flash my pc it wrote "try (hd0,0): non-ms skip", why? i tested fat16(dos, lba), fat32(dos), ntfs
[17:00] <Unksi> Oceanwatcher: sounds like /tmp/ :/
[17:00] <ahmed> phh: there is noway to move i have widescreen and these buttons behind the the panel i slide the size of panel to see these buttons but i couldnt find it
[17:00] <Oceanwatcher> phh: I will check..
[17:00] <phh> ahmed: there is always way to move... for instance alt+left mouse button
[17:02] <ahmed> phh: thanks man I can see it now is there anyway to      make system-config-smba run??
[17:02] <phh> no idea
[17:08] <Oceanwatcher> phh: Check in the web interface. It shows the job was canceled.
[17:09] <Oceanwatcher> Probably something else that has to be set up...
[17:09] <phh> Oceanwatcher: In printer URI you maybe had to set file://home/user/someething.pdf
[17:10] <Oceanwatcher> Here is something I found on this: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/23/print-to-pdf-using-cups-pdf/
[17:10] <Oceanwatcher> Do you know Kprinter?
[17:11] <phh> kprinter no longer exists
[17:11] <phh> it was only a kde3 program
[17:11] <Oceanwatcher> Ok.
[17:21] <Oceanwatcher> phh: Found an old thread where someone mentioned that it will print to the PDF folder in your home dir. I did not have this one, so I added it and for good measure, set permissions to 777. Now it is working :-)
[17:22] <phh> oh
[17:22] <Oceanwatcher> I'll add a thread on this in Kubuntuforums. Might be someone else that need it - or someone else have a better solution.
[17:23] <phh> Oceanwatcher: if you want to avoid security hole, go back to original permission and do setfacl -m u:rxw:cups on the home
[17:23] <phh> hum i'm wrong
[17:24] <phh> it's setfacl -m u:cups:rwx
[17:24] <Oceanwatcher> Uhm... I can try to revert to original permissions and see if it still works. This is a singleuser system anyway.
[17:24] <phh> fail again it's not cups ....
[17:24] <Oceanwatcher> Ok... What is setfacl anyway?
[17:25] <alessio> ciaocioa
[17:25] <alessio> ciao
[17:25] <phh> Oceanwatcher: it's extented permissions, you can grant permissions for each user
[17:25] <phh> instead of the simple user/group/other mod
[17:25] <Oceanwatcher> Ah. Ok. Smart.
[17:25] <phh> so only cups will be able to write (meaning create/delete files...) to it
[17:25] <yondaime> hola q tal muy buenos dias
[17:25] <phh> but can't find the user name of cups
[17:25] <phh> it's maybe lp
[17:28] <kaddi> hola yondaime :)
[17:28] <kaddi> !es |yondaime
[17:46] <zuzka_> has anybody got tutorial for 64 bit JAVA?
[17:46] <alessio> ki è italiano???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[17:47] <alessio> KI È
[17:47] <alessio>  ITALIANO?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[17:47] <alessio> ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[17:47] <tsimpson> !it | alessio
[17:50] <alessio> CAPITO GRZ
[17:53] <beatzz> I have a dual boot system, Windows XP/Kubuntu 8.04
[17:53] <beatzz> i recently reinstalled kubuntu
[17:53] <beatzz> and now it wont get past the boot loader
[17:53] <beatzz> (grub) any sudjestions?
[17:55] <genii> Man. I hate coming back to check scroll and seeing stuff like screenfull of ???????????
[17:58] <phh> beatzz: any error message ?
[18:01] <Oceanwatcher> phh: I changed the rights back to the original, and it still works ok.
[18:02] <hunter_> help!
[18:02] <hunter_> <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:02] <hunter_> E: Typ „quit“ ist unbekannt in Zeile 77 der Quellliste /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:02] <hunter_> i am receiving this since yesterday and i can not install anything anymore. thrue shell or manager, its not working
[18:03] <hunter_> i instal apache, sgl, oracle and php and since then i have this error
[18:06] <tsimpson> hunter_: you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and either fix or remove line 77
[18:07] <tsimpson> hunter_: to edit it, press alt-f2 and enter kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:08] <hunter_> do oyu have more details? land how happen this?
[18:08] <hunter_> i have ubuntu,, it doenst metter, or?
[18:08] <tsimpson> hunter_: have you added any sources recently?
[18:09] <hunter_> what you mean
[18:09] <hunter_> which source
[18:09] <tsimpson> for ubuntu/gnome use "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list£
[18:09] <CQ> hello, I have a jaunty with a g45 chipset, and the HDMI shows as disconnected even though it is connected... it boots fine, I see teh Kubuntu splash boot screen, and the console, but then xrandr shows it disconnected... VGA is OK and correct. Any ideas?
[18:09] <hunter_> without the pound
[18:09] <tsimpson> hunter_: yes
[18:09] <tsimpson> I mean software sources, repositories
[18:10] <hunter_> iok, is open
[18:10] <hunter_> and now?
[18:10] <jinzougen> When I log into kubuntu, the icons on my panel get randomized. I looked online and saw that some other people have had the same problem, but I didn't find any solutions. I just upgraded to jaunty recently. Does anyone have any idea on how I can fix this?
[18:11] <tsimpson> hunter_: what does line 77 day?
[18:11] <tsimpson> *say
[18:11] <hunter_> ok this, kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list, is not working
[18:11] <hunter_> i dont understand your question
[18:12] <hunter_> root@hunter-desktop:~# apt-get update
[18:12] <hunter_> E: Typ „quit“ ist unbekannt in Zeile 77 der Quellliste /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:12] <tsimpson> line 77 of /etc/apt/sources.list is causing the error
[18:12] <hunter_> yes.. see it?
[18:12] <tsimpson> you either need to fix it or remove it
[18:13] <tsimpson> press alt-f2 and put in "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[18:13] <bane_> Hello
[18:13] <hunter_> wait, it is from apache right?
[18:13] <tsimpson> then post what line 77 is
[18:13] <bane_> Is there a way to graphicaly connect to ADSL which need username and pass
[18:14] <hunter_> shit! now its nothing working
[18:14] <bane_> I am using command pon dsl-provider in console
[18:14] <hunter_> look
[18:14] <hunter_> root@hunter-desktop:~# apt-get snort
[18:14] <hunter_> E: Ungültige Operation snort.
[18:14] <tsimpson> hunter_: that's because "snort" is not a command for apt-get
[18:14] <hunter_> root@hunter-desktop:~# apt-get update
[18:14] <hunter_> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
[18:15] <hunter_> root@hunter-desktop:~# apt-get install upgrade
[18:15] <hunter_> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
[18:15] <hunter_> Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut
[18:15] <hunter_> Reading state information... Fertig
[18:15] <hunter_> E: Konnte Paket upgrade nicht finden
[18:16] <jussi01> hunter_: just apt-get upgrade
[18:16] <hunter_> oi removed the list..
[18:16] <hunter_> the same,
[18:16] <hunter_> already try it
[18:16] <tsimpson> you are not using the command correctly
[18:16] <hunter_> root@hunter-desktop:~# apt-get update
[18:16] <hunter_> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
[18:16] <zuzka_> has anybody got tutorial for 64 bit JAVA?
[18:17] <tsimpson> !java | zuzka_
[18:18] <zuzka_> ok sorry, 64 bit java FIREFOX plugin
[18:18] <hunter_> E: Konnte Paket pnscan nicht finden
[18:18] <hunter_> everytime
[18:18] <hunter_> could not found package
[18:18] <hunter_> dfaklgnaofägn
[18:19] <tsimpson> !java64 | zuzka_, try this
[18:19] <Mamarok> hunter_: as you are speaking german, you might try #kubuntu-de
[18:19] <tsimpson> hunter_: what did you change in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[18:20] <eagles0513875> outa curiosity anyone else haveing any issues with desktop effects causing plasma to crash
[18:21] <carpii> yup
[18:21] <Mamarok> eagles0513875: searched the bugs on launchpad? that's the first place to look for such bugs IMHO
[18:22] <carpii> i fid plasma about as stable as win95
[18:22] <eagles0513875> Mamarok: ok
[18:22] <hunter_> was i gone?
[18:22] <eagles0513875> carpii: lol
[18:22] <Mamarok> hunter_: you probably were in a netsplit, that happends sometimes
[18:23] <hunter_> that means?
[18:23] <tsimpson> it wasn't a netsplit
[18:23] <hunter_> wait, i delete this /etc/apt/sources.list. should i create a new one?
[18:23] <tsimpson> hunter_: why did you delete it??
[18:23] <hunter_> because you told me that, or someone else
[18:23] <tsimpson> no, I did not. I said to edit it
[18:24] <hunter_> i mena, now..
[18:24] <Mamarok> hunter_: nobody told you so
[18:24] <tsimpson> edit != delete
[18:24] <Mamarok> !de > hunter
[18:24] <Zengol> Could someone tell me how to change the kicker icon?
[18:25] <hunter_> oh men.. what now?
[18:25] <Mamarok> hunter_: you can easily restore your sources.list
[18:25] <tsimpson> there is an example sources.list in /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
[18:25] <Mamarok> but you should not stay logged in as root, rather use sudo instead, less problems...
[18:25] <Mamarok> just my 2 ct
[18:26] <hunter_> mkdir
[18:26] <CQ> hello, I have a jaunty with a g45 chipset, and the HDMI shows as disconnected even though it is connected... it boots fine, I see teh Kubuntu splash boot screen, and the console, but then xrandr shows it disconnected... VGA is OK and correct. Any ideas?
[18:26] <hunter_> well, su is also a problem
[18:26] <Mamarok> hunter_: that's why Kubuntu uses sudo instead of su
[18:26] <hunter_> if i type su then he ask me 4 pw.. but my normal pw is not working. always denied
[18:27] <Pici> !sudo
[18:27] <tsimpson> don't use su, use sudo
[18:27] <hunter_> ok
[18:27] <hunter_> E: Zeile 1 zu lang in der Quellliste /etc/apt/sources.list.
[18:27] <hunter_> jesus...
[18:28] <hunter_> to long now??
[18:28] <tsimpson> hunter_: you may be more comfortable getting support in #ubuntu-de
[18:29] <CQ> hunter su means su to root, it wants the root password. you probably want sudo
[18:29] <maurizio> hi
[18:29] <hunter_> sudo and then apt-get works, su and then pw, is not working
[18:30] <tsimpson> don't use su
[18:30] <CQ> hunter_: what are you trying to do? sudo apt-get update
[18:30] <hunter_> yes
[18:30] <maurizio> ehum...where's synaptic?
[18:31] <hunter_> and now he is telling me that E: Zeile 1 zu lang in der Quellliste /etc/apt/sources.list.
[18:32] <CQ> hunter: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list     and we can look at it if you give us the URL it returns.
[18:32] <tsimpson> CQ: he can't install anything
[18:32] <CQ> hunter_: ok, then paste your sources.list into a pastebin
[18:33] <CQ> hunter_: or comment out line 77 with a '#' and then rerun sudo apt-get update
[18:33] <tsimpson> CQ: he already deleted the entire file
[18:34] <CQ> then how can the error in line 77 still be there?
[18:34] <Mamarok> caching
[18:34] <tsimpson> CQ: that was the error before he deleted it
[18:34] <tsimpson> CQ: the error now is: Line 1 too long in the source list / etc / apt / sources.list.
[18:35] <CQ> tsimpson: he's actively being helped in -de ...
[18:35] <tsimpson> then lets just leave it
[18:36] <Zengol> Is the command for openbox  sudo apt-get openbox?
[18:36] <tsimpson> Zengol: either use "sudo apt-get install openbox" or just use a package manager
[18:37] <Zengol> Ok.
[18:37] <Zengol> I'd rather use Sudo.
[18:37] <Zengol> I have had very little luck with the package manager's.
[18:37] <tsimpson> sudo does not install packages
[18:37]  * Mamarok wonders in which -de
[18:37] <Zengol> I installed it before using Sudo, but i couldn't remember what the line was for it.
[18:37] <tsimpson> if you want to know about a command, type in "man <command>", eg "man apt-get"
[18:38] <tsimpson> that'll display the manual
[18:38] <Zengol> Ok, it's installed.
[18:38] <Zengol> Thank's man.
[18:39] <Zengol> I will have to keep that in mind.
[18:43] <beatzz> hello
[18:43] <beatzz> having trouble with grub
[18:43] <beatzz> "Missing operating system"
[18:43] <beatzz> on start up
[18:44] <beatzz> so i booted into live CD
[18:44] <beatzz> now what?
[18:46] <Ahmuck> what operating system?
[18:46] <Ahmuck> beatzz: kubuntu
[18:46] <beatzz> yes
[18:46] <Ahmuck> kubuntu only ?
[18:47] <beatzz> Windows XP / Kubuntu
[18:47] <Ahmuck> kubuntu 9.04?
[18:47] <beatzz> the owner of the laptop upgraded kubuntu to newest release
[18:47] <beatzz> and dident like it
[18:47] <Ahmuck> ur not the owner?
[18:47] <beatzz> so she had me reinstall 8.04
[18:47] <Ahmuck> ya, i like 8.04
[18:47] <Ahmuck> i'm still at 8.04
[18:47] <beatzz> (my recomendation as well)
[18:47] <Ahmuck> kde3 is going to be around for a while
[18:47] <beatzz> so i did so
[18:48] <beatzz> using manual partion settings when it got to the partioner
[18:48] <beatzz> during the install setup ya know?
[18:48] <beatzz> and i picked the original partitions,  for / and swap
[18:48] <beatzz> installed, and it threw some errors at me ( this was 2 days ago)
[18:49] <Ahmuck> are you wanting to salvage anything on the desktop in windows xp or kubuntu?
[18:49] <beatzz> so now when i start up, it shows CMOS, then go's to black screen saying "Missing operating system"
[18:49] <Ahmuck> you did make a backup
[18:49] <beatzz> i backed up all her files yes
[18:49] <beatzz> but she wants to keep the windows side as is
[18:49] <Ahmuck> you backed up windows side as well
[18:49] <beatzz> no
[18:50] <beatzz> i dident do anything to the windows partition
[18:51] <beatzz> darnit
[18:51] <beatzz> its still giving me the error
[18:52] <beatzz> How do i salvage this?
[18:52] <beatzz> Live CD?
[18:52] <beatzz> I realy dont want to reinstall everything
[18:53] <beatzz> i know its a problem with the bootloader
[18:53] <beatzz> :/
[18:53] <eagles0513875> beatzz: if you must and dont have the windows data backed up there is a way to recover it using get databack for ntfs or fat depending on the type of file system
[18:53] <eagles0513875> you shouldnt have to though
[18:54] <eagles0513875> if you reinstall linux and grub it should find windows partitions and use grub no problem#
[18:54] <eagles0513875> we talking bout vista or xp that is duel booting
[18:54] <beatzz> exactly
[18:54] <eagles0513875> vista is different though
[18:54] <beatzz> so how do i reinstall grub
[18:54] <eagles0513875> !grub
[18:54] <beatzz> xp dual boot
[18:55] <eagles0513875> never had that happened to me to be honest :( not much of a grubspert
[18:55] <jamesjedimaster> !dualboot
[18:55] <eagles0513875> thanks sir jedi master
[18:56] <beatzz> eagles0513875, i have all those links open
[18:56] <beatzz> eagles0513875, will u go through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub with me?
[18:56] <eagles0513875> beatzz: bout to head out the door :(
[18:56] <Ahmuck> beatzz read the doc
[18:56] <Ahmuck> first
[18:56] <beatzz> becaue it dosent find /boot/grub/stage1 or /grub/stage1
[18:57] <eagles0513875> beatzz: doc should tell ya everything step by step
[18:57] <beatzz> eagles0513875, it dose, but im getting errors
[18:57] <beatzz> i will try again i guess.
[18:57] <Ahmuck> beatzz: read the docs
[18:57] <eagles0513875> beatzz: there are others that can help
[18:57] <beatzz> docs = ?
[18:57] <beatzz> these web links?
[19:05] <OxDeadC0de_> Is the a good media center app for kubuntu, better than elisa?
[19:06] <beatzz> so what do i do when this docs dont help
[19:07] <beatzz> when im doing them step for step
[19:15] <Fieldy> !bash completion
[19:16] <sharkp> Hi
[19:16] <paolo> hi
[19:16] <sharkp> does anyone know how I can set the automount in my kubuntu?
[19:16] <sharkp> i mean, the automount for, don't know, pen drive or similar
[19:17] <invite> I have recently upgraded from intrepid to 9.04
[19:17] <invite> I was used to set the brightness through
[19:18] <invite> smartdimmer and it was working perfect
[19:18] <invite> but now smartdimmer just don't work
[19:18] <sharkp> does anyone can help me
[19:18] <sharkp> ?
[19:19] <invite> The nvidia drivers are installed and I have changed nothing meanwhile (apart from upgrading)
[19:19] <invite> With the default brightness it's a pain to work !
[19:20] <invite> have tried setting the colors/gamma with nvidia-settings but it still too bright!
[19:20] <invite> has anybody got a similar issue?
[19:29] <genii> invite: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvclock/+bug/363290
[19:29] <genii> Bleh, left already
[19:29]  * genii sips
[19:30] <tade> hello
[19:30] <tade> I just upgraded Kubuntu
[19:30] <tade> and it came out to missing OS
[19:30] <tade> any idea how to fix that?
[19:33] <genii> tade: How did you upgrade it?
[19:34] <tade> from Adept manager
[19:34] <tade> I am guessing it has something to do with grub?
[19:34] <genii> tade: Most likely, yes. Do you have other OS on there too?
[19:35] <tade> no
[19:35] <tade> just that
[19:35] <genii> tade: OK. Are you on livecd right now?
[19:35] <tade> yes
[19:36] <genii> tade: Good :) Please use pastebin to show result of:  sudo fdisk -l        and: blkid
[19:37] <genii> !paste | tade -  the pastebin address/info
[19:37] <tade> http://pastebin.ca/1423953
[19:37] <genii> Reading
[19:38] <genii> tade: Hm. That result shows only 1 drive which is a gigabyte size.
[19:39] <sharkp> does anyone know how I can set the automount in my kubuntu?
[19:39] <tade> right
[19:40] <genii> tade: 1Gb is not enough room to install Kubuntu in.
[19:40] <tade> genii
[19:40] <tade> no I had a bigger hard drive
[19:40] <tade> not sure w hy its not visible
[19:40] <tade> may be its not mounted?
[19:40] <sharkp> does anyone know how I can set the automount in my kubuntu?
[19:40] <genii> tade: That it is not showing indicates some problem at a hardware level.
[19:42] <tade> dev/sda1              72G   36G   33G  52% /mnt
[19:42] <tade> using df -h
[19:42] <tade> command
[19:42] <genii> tade: Odd. It should also always show in:  sudo fdisk -l
[19:43] <sharkp> ehy, thanks for the help
[19:43] <sharkp> -.-
[19:43] <tade> http://pastebin.ca/1423969
[19:43] <tade> haha
[19:43] <tade> If orgot sudo :)
[19:43] <tade> my sorry
[19:44] <tade> http://pastebin.ca/1423972
[19:44] <tade> thats  fdisk with sudo :)
[19:45] <genii> tade: Good. So you did not have any separate /boot partition it looks like.
[19:46] <genii> tade: I suggest to follow the instructions for livecd at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[19:49] <tade> genii: thanks
[19:49] <tade> rebooting now
[19:49] <tade> will update if it worked
[19:49] <genii> OK
[19:51] <yoshiy> Hello, is there any default keyboard combo which disables the keyboard?
[19:52] <yoshiy> because it happened already twice in a week and i think it happens when i press shift or something... when i log out and log back everything works again
[19:54] <yoshiy> when this happens the virtual keyboard kvkbd doesnt work too, so i think its not a bug or something
[19:55] <phh> yoshiy: don't know, but it occurs often to me, i just have to do right mouse click on a window bar and click somewhere else
[19:55] <phh> and it comes back
[19:56] <yoshiy> phh: thanks i will try this next time it happen :)
[19:58] <virk> hi
[19:59] <tade> genii:
[19:59] <tade> what is the link again
[19:59] <tade> first try didn't work
[19:59] <genii> tade:
[19:59] <genii> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/155408
[20:00] <sharkp> does anyone know how I can set the automount in my kubuntu?
[20:00] <genii> oops
[20:00] <virk> does anyone know whether kde 4.3 will be available on kubuntu in short? I mean, will the first beta be around in some ppa or so?
[20:01] <SHARIVAN> brasil brasil?
[20:01] <Unksi> virk: would expect in a week or so at most, and yes in a ppa
[20:01] <Unksi> !br | SHARIVAN
[20:01] <robin0800> virk: its there already
[20:02] <genii> !grub | tade  first link:
[20:02] <robin0800> Unksi: Its already on there site as of yesterday
[20:03] <genii> Apologies on lag, work is ringing me every minute/every couple minutes here
[20:03] <Unksi> robin0800: hmm, where?
[20:03] <virk> robin0800: you mean it is already in a ppa?
[20:03] <virk> if yes, where?
[20:03] <tade> genii: thanks
[20:03] <robin0800> Look in news
[20:04] <Unksi> robin0800: i see only 4.2.3 in there? not 4.3?
[20:06] <robin0800> http://www.kubuntu.org/month/2009/05
[20:08] <Unksi> robin0800: i still see only 4.2.3 and karmic :p
[20:08] <robin0800> Unksi: $.3 is months away!
[20:09] <virk> robin0800: the first beta came out 2 days ago :)
[20:09] <Unksi> yep :p
[20:09] <virk> so I thought, beta might be found in some ppa yet?
[20:09] <Unksi> its building atm
[20:10] <Unksi> the buildfarm is has a queue of nearly 6000 packages though, so it will take a few days to clear that off..
[20:10] <Unksi> *has a
[20:10] <virk> owkey, that is quite a lot :)
[20:10] <tade> anyone have any idea why updating my Kubuntu causes "Missing Operating System" message
[20:10] <tade> and doesn't boot?
[20:10] <Unksi> yeah, and thats for 64bit, 32bit has double..
[20:11] <Unksi> tade: did you try to upgrade from earlier version?
[20:11] <virk> ah, I see, good luck then :p
[20:11] <tade> Unksi: yes I upgraded from earlier version using update manager
[20:12] <Unksi> tade: ok, do you get a menu for choosing the operating system at all when it boots?
[20:12] <tade> no
[20:12] <tade> I only have one OS installed
[20:12] <Unksi> do you even get a message that press esc to show the menu?
[20:12] <tade> after bios it goes straight to Missing OS
[20:12] <tade> yeah
[20:13] <robin0800> Can we be clear what we are talking about 4..2.3 beta 1 is what has been released not 4.3
[20:13] <Unksi> press esc and try if the safe mode boots
[20:13] <tade> I thought may be its grub problem but not sure
[20:13] <Unksi> robin0800: he said 4.3 so its the beta then as only beta of that is released :)
[20:14] <genii> robin0800: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.3_Release_Schedule indicates otherwise than 4.2.3
[20:14] <Unksi> sounds like grub configuration problem if it goes as far to go to grub
[20:14] <genii> tade: Do you get at all the start of the GRUB ?
[20:15] <Unksi> grah my english is awful today
[20:15] <tade> genii nope
[20:17] <genii> tade: When you are telling it where to install grub, are you telling it like: sda   or something more like sdaX where X is a partition n umber?
[20:17] <genii> (because sdaX won't work)
[20:17] <ninix> hi, I think my "automount" device  is disabled, how can I re-enable it ?
[20:17] <robin0800> Unksi: Your right its obviously wrong on the Kubuntu site news
[20:19] <Unksi> robin0800: wrong? it only speaks of the 4.2.3, and the repo it gives gives you 4.2.3 :)
[20:19] <Unksi> there will probably be news about 4.3 when the repo for it is ready for use
[20:23] <sere> does x11 use xorg.conf ...trying to get tvout with nvidia and the monitor is working but not tv anyone?
[20:23] <tade> thanks guys..
[20:23] <tade> my kubuntu is back
[20:24] <tade> for some reason my boot order was reconfigured and it was booting from USB
[20:24] <tade> first
[20:24] <tade> :)
[20:27] <robin0800> Unksi: It has just apeared 2 minutes ago Karmic Alpha 1
[20:28] <Unksi> thats been there since yesterday :)
[20:28] <sheytan_> Hi guys
[20:28] <Unksi> unless you had a cached version of the page
[20:28] <Unksi> hi sheytan_
[20:28] <sheytan_> i was bored today so i made a mockup of kubuntu home page
[20:28] <sheytan_> http://sheytan-files.xt.pl/kubuntuwww2-airbg.jpg
[20:29] <sheytan_> check it out
[20:29] <genii> tade: Glad to see you have resolved the issue
[20:30] <tade> genii: is weird actually
[20:30] <tade> I had a USB in the USB slot
[20:30] <tade> and it wsa jsut booting from there
[20:30] <tade> may be it had nothing to do with teh udate all along
[20:30] <genii> Unksi and robin0800 et  al: From 2 days ago now - https://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/71043
[20:31] <genii> tade: On every system I have which has multiple drives which can boot, I also have in their respective menu.lst chainload entries for all the other drives. Comes in handy.
[20:31] <Unksi> genii: yeah :)
[20:32] <Unksi> looking its building pimlibs and widgets it might not take that many days ;)
[20:35] <blck> does anyone have an mobillity radeon HD3470 X2?
[20:40] <sheytan_> have a version without air wallpaper, too http://sheytan-files.xt.pl/kubuntuwww2-whitebg.jpg
[20:41] <geobikas> can anyone help with laptop hp 6830s and audio on kubuntu?
[20:44] <sere> anyone use tvout?
[20:45] <geobikas> can anyone help with laptop hp 6830s and audio on kubuntu?
[20:51] <geobikas> can anyone help with laptop hp 6830s and audio on kubuntu?
[20:51] <Ahmuck> !dvd
[20:52] <sere> !TVOUT
[20:57] <sere> anyone know if x11 uses xorg.conf anyone looks kinda empty
[20:57] <Ahmuck> sere: that's actually a result of HAL and ubuntu dropped xorg.conf in 8.10 iirc, but stated they were going to put it back in 9.04 ?

[20:59] <sere> ahmuck... any idea how do get tv out with nvidia if xorg.conf is dropped
[20:59] <Dragnslcr> xorg.conf should still be used, it just doesn't need to have everything that can be detected automatically
[20:59] <Dragnslcr> You should be able to add settings to the file
[21:00] <Walzmyn> is there a way to use apt to search for package names?
[21:00] <sere> Dragnslcr: oh ok ...ill continue to work on it then :/
[21:00] <Dragnslcr> Walzmyn- apt-cache search
[21:00] <Walzmyn> thanks
[21:03] <sere> Dragnslcr:  will xorg.conf overide the default bs
[21:04] <Ahmuck> i'm unable to play dvd's  any suggestions?
[21:05] <genii> unski and robin0800 Reports right now I'm hearing of kde 4.3 in #ubuntu+1 is that they still right now have 80 or packages which they are still updating.
[21:05] <Mamarok> Ahmuck: codecs missing probably
[21:05] <Mamarok> !codec
[21:06] <Ahmuck> Mamarok: been there, done that
[21:06] <Unksi> genii: ok
[21:06] <Ahmuck> i keep getting "encrypted, blah blah"
[21:06] <Mamarok> Ahmuck: oh, then maybe it's your DVD...
[21:06] <Mamarok> the media itself I mean
[21:06] <Ahmuck> nope, i've tried multple DVD's
[21:07] <sheytan_> all 3 in one place, see it here: http://madsheytan.blogspot.com/2009/05/strona-domowa-kubuntu-mockup.html
[21:07] <Mamarok> Ahmuck: what application did you use?
[21:07] <chris_> any fanny in here?
[21:07] <Pici> chris_: excuse me?
[21:07] <Ahmuck> vlc, kaffiene
[21:08] <Mamarok> Ahmuck: vlc doesn't work? And you sure have all the codecs installed?
[21:08] <Ahmuck> Mamarok: yes.  i've followed the instructions
[21:09] <robin0800> Ahmuck: Have you installed the decription lib on vlc site
[21:14] <Laeborg> !wifi
[21:16] <Ahmuck> robin0800: description lib?
[21:21] <robin0800> Ahmuck: http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.10/deb/
[21:22] <Ahmuck> Unable to open 'dvd:///dev/scd0'
[21:22] <Ahmuck> robin0800: installed
[21:23] <somekool> anybody got a trouble with their kde 4.2 systray in kubuntu 9.04 ?
[21:23] <sheytan_> somekool: what kind?
[21:28] <somekool> sheytan_: systray icons from kde4 app are all black
[21:28] <somekool> systray icons from gtk or kde3 app are all fine
[21:28] <sheytan_> somekool: can you make a screeshot?
[21:29] <wab> Ciao a tutti
[21:29] <somekool> yes
[21:29] <wab> !list
[21:30] <somekool> http://imagebin.ca/view/Zk9N0M.html
[21:31] <somekool> i was already using kde 4.2.2 in kubuntu 8.10 and i did not have this problem. problem appear after I upgraded to 9.04
[21:32] <lovre> somekool: sorry, i didnt read before, can you repeat what is the problem?
[21:32] <lovre> i cant find it
[21:33] <Ahmuck> how odd, if i mount the drive, ie when kubuntu asks what to do with it, and then open kaffiene, it's not playing, but it's not giving an error either
[21:34] <sheytan_> somekool: maybe try upgrade to 4.2.3
[21:34] <somekool> sheytan_: i did.
[21:35] <sheytan_> somekool: never saw somthing like that. ask on #kde
[21:35] <somekool> lovre:  systray icons from kde4 app are all black; systray icons from gtk or kde3 app are all fine ; http://imagebin.ca/view/Zk9N0M.html ;
[21:36] <lovre> somekool: do you use compiz?
[21:36] <somekool> they will tell me to ask here. it was fine with 4.2.2+8.10 and it's broken with 4.2.2+9.04 & 4.2.3+9.04
[21:36] <somekool> lovre: i use desktop effects from kwin but not compiz it self. i tried disabling it. it does not solve the problem
[21:36] <sheytan_> somekool: maybe they will not.
[21:37] <lovre> what is your graphics card, and do you have latest drivers installed?
[21:38] <edoceo> I just moved to Jaunty - now my deskop (what was twin-view?) are split.
[21:38] <edoceo> I want to get my main panel to stretch across both monitors
[21:39] <edoceo> Also, my desktop widgets are specific to only one monitor - I was hoping to span both
[21:40] <sheytan_> somekool: tray backup /home/user/.kde(4)/share/config/plasma*, then kill plasma, and start it again. will the problem be solved?
[21:40] <sheytan_> try*
[21:41] <Ahmuck> robin0800: Mamarok, thx for the help, i've decided to "chuck" the current install and do a new one
[21:41] <Ahmuck> windows like
[21:41] <Mamarok> Ahmuck: you give up very easily
[21:42] <Ahmuck> not really.  it used to work, but now it doesn't
[21:42] <Ahmuck> time is valuable
[21:42] <Ahmuck> it's 20 min to a new install, and 20 hours for repair
[21:42] <Mamarok> well, my time is too, that's why I don't spend it on Windows :)
[21:42] <Ahmuck> *shrugs*, linux is becoming more like windows every day
[21:42] <lovre> Ahmuck: not really
[21:42] <Ahmuck> without the virurese
[21:42] <Mamarok> ouch, that's a very bold statement!
[21:42] <Ahmuck> ah, and without the software variety
[21:43] <lovre> Ahmuck: dont let the looks fool you
[21:43] <Mamarok> but then, it doesn't really belong here
[21:43] <Ahmuck> *shrugs*, Mamarok it is what it is
[21:43] <Mamarok> everybody has to value his/her own freedom
[21:44] <edoceo> Should KDE4 be treating my two monitors as seperate "desktops"?
[21:47] <somekool> edoceo: it does not for me
[21:47] <edoceo> somekool: So you have a panel at the bottom (for example) that can span across both?
[21:48] <somekool> sheytan_: well, I tried removing the systray multiple times which gets his config reset... but ... when you say to backup the config. do you mean to move it away as well to start fresh ?
[21:48] <somekool> edoceo: no, I have a panel on each
[21:48] <sere> edoceo : can i see your xorg.conf ....im working on setting my nvidia out w/ no luck :/
[21:49] <somekool> edoceo: they are not separate desktops, but they are separate screen on a single desktop. it might depend on your video card driver and xorg config.
[21:49] <edoceo> ~pb
[21:49] <somekool> nvidia-settings does all the work for you
[21:50] <sheytan_> somekool: yes, backup the old plasma's config files somewhere, then kill plasma, and start it again. if it will be ok with the systray, then you need to setup your desktop again, when not,  kill plasma, tehn copy back the backedup files and start plasma again
[21:50] <edoceo> sere: its here: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/173241/
[21:50] <sere> somekool: I have nvidia-settings but its not setting up my xorg.conf so im doing it manually
[21:50] <sere> edoceo : thanks alot
[21:54] <edoceo> Ok - my xorg.conf has a configuration of two monitors but they go to one "screen" - should I make two screens for X?
[21:54] <somekool> sheytan_: same bug
[21:55] <sheytan_> somekool: so it's not plasmas fault. what's graphics card do you have?
[21:56] <somekool> nvidia
[21:56] <sheytan_> somekool: driver version?
[21:57] <kpenrose> What does it mean in the KDE software upgrade module when it says that there are "19 blocked updates"?
[21:58] <somekool> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/m14ab1711   :: i believe the one in used is the latest, 1.80
[21:59] <sheytan_> somekool: ok, so i'm using the same drivers, kubuntu 9.04(but clean install), and 4.2.3, an everything works fine
[22:01] <somekool> sheytan_: kde desktop effects or compiz ?
[22:01] <sheytan_> kde's default
[22:01] <sheytan_> not compiz
[22:01] <astrobear> i need you guys to help me badly
[22:01] <astrobear> i can't install koffice and i absolutely need it
[22:02] <astrobear> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[22:02] <astrobear>   koffice: Depends: kformula (>= 1:1.6.3-6ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed
[22:02] <sheytan_> somekool:i'm using kde scince 4.1 alpha and never saw something like that
[22:02] <sheytan_> astrobear: kde4?
[22:02] <astrobear> sheytan_: yes
[22:02] <astrobear> dependency hell again
[22:02] <sheytan_> astrobear: i don't think there's koffice for kde4 yet
[22:02] <astrobear> something i was trying to avoid by reinstalling ubuntu
[22:02] <sheytan_> or is it?
[22:03] <astrobear> i don't care if it uses the kde4 backends or not i need that pdf import option so i can't start working on this document
[22:03] <sheytan_> astrobear: try maybe openoffie?
[22:03] <astrobear> anyway, when i tried apt-get install kformula... there were about 300 apps that are going to be removed just to install it
[22:03] <astrobear> sheytan_: it doesn't have this feature
[22:04] <sheytan_> astroboy: maybe there is an experimental repo for koffice. i'm new to kubuntu, too, so i don't know everything
[22:05] <somekool> sheytan_: i am using it pretty much since early 4.0 and it is also the first time it happens to me
[22:06] <sheytan_> somekool: as i said, did you ask on #kde?
[22:06] <astrobear> i'm not very new, i'm quite an old fart
[22:06] <astrobear> anyway, seems scribus edits pdfs without breaking my system
[22:06] <somekool> sheytan_: i did some time ago, I guess I will try again
[22:06] <somekool> first I am trying switching back to nvidia 1.73
[22:07]  * somekool rebooting
[22:07] <sheytan_> astrobear: i was using slackware for 3 years and sometimes it is ok to have a pkg manager that doesn't check deps.
[22:07] <sheytan_> somekool: try :D
[22:08] <sheytan_> astrobear: did you try that: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/koffice-2-beta
[22:10] <sheytan_> astrobear: or that: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/koffice-2-rc
[22:14] <rizha05> #bandung
[22:15] <sheytan_> goind to sleep, bye guys
[22:16] <gabe_> I need small hlp
[22:17] <gabe_> how to mount ntfs partition on kubuntu 8.10?
[22:18] <gabe_> last I use normal KDE file manager but now I cant.
[22:18] <ralmar> Hey guys, up until a few days ago I used integrate ATI graphics on my pc, but I recently bought an ATI Radeon HD card. I put it in my pc and it worked fine on my main ubuntu user.  If open firefox or any other program and try to scroll it gets choppy, its not smooth. Any ideas on how to fix it? Thanks
[22:25] <lovre> erm, my plasma just crashed, i can only see windows, but not desktop or panel.. how do i restart plasma (or kwin im not sure whats causing this=
[22:25] <Wunderkind> problems with kopete...
[22:25] <Wunderkind> it appears to self-delete my accounts
[22:25] <Wunderkind> then remembers them on a whim
[22:25] <Wunderkind> can't figure out why
[22:26] <astrobear> hmm
[22:26] <astrobear> Errors were encountered while processing:
[22:26] <astrobear>  /var/cache/apt/archives/koffice-data-kde4_1%3a<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1~intrepid1_all.deb
[22:26] <astrobear> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[22:27] <astrobear> error while installing koffice-kde4
[22:44] <rmrfslash> KDE 4.3?
[22:44] <rmrfslash> This is coming? (reading the headlines)
[22:46] <Unksi> rmrfslash: building atm
[22:46] <rmrfslash> Cool:)
[22:49] <ikonia> !away > NvdH|Away
[22:50] <sere> i get a black screen on my tv trying to use tvout but monitor works fine...here is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/173271/ will someone please help
[22:56] <robin0800> sere where are you?
[22:56] <sere> usa
[22:56] <sere> ntsc-m?
[22:58] <robin0800> sere: s video output?
[22:58] <sere> robin0800:  yessir
[22:59] <hase> sagt mal wie bekomme ich den browser flashfähig bei mir kriege ich immer die  meldung Err. Abhängigkeit kann nicht erfüllt werden : libcurl3 ?
[22:59] <robin0800> perhaps pastebin your xorg log file
[23:01] <tdn> I have made global short cuts for two items in the K menu, but they do not work. How do I fix this?
[23:01] <sere> robin0800: http://paste.ubuntu.com/173271/ ty :)
[23:02] <nightdrever> whhats the best music player for ubuntu?
[23:03] <cinex> kubuntu or ubuntu?
[23:03] <nightdrever> and whats the best torrent downloader?
[23:03] <nightdrever> ubuntu....well any that i can get to work
[23:03] <carpii> youre on linux, things dont come in 'best' flavours. they come in 'try it and see which one i prefer' flavours
[23:03] <cinex> for kde you have amarok, xmms (for music)
[23:03] <cinex> ktorrent is good enough for me on the torrent sidwe
[23:03] <cinex> side
[23:04] <nightdrever> its just ive tried other ones and they are very slow
[23:04] <carpii> yeah i like ktorrent but it does need restarting once in a while. possible mem leak or socket bug
[23:04] <cinex> azueres (or its new name?) is good too
[23:04] <cinex> if u want the advanced options
[23:04] <nightdrever> i tried vuze seemed low also
[23:06] <nightdrever> i mean utorrent worked way faster on xp
[23:06] <robin0800> sere: Log file?
[23:06] <nightdrever> trying to find a good linux equivalent
[23:07] <sere> robin0800: one sec
[23:07] <jussi01> nightdrever: ktorrent has been fantastic for me - have you enabled dht and opened the torrent ports?
[23:07] <jussi01> (grab google for the ports opening, I dont remember)
[23:08] <robin0800> nightdrever: Amule?
[23:08] <m_> I just installed Kubuntu to run with win xp.  seems to be working good so far.  Anyone know of any good tutorial for linux?
[23:09] <carpii> what aspect of linux?
[23:09] <tdn> Why does global short cuts not work in 9.04? Is anyone else experiencing this?
[23:09] <coolkourt> is there any way to fix the keyboard in Ubuntu that stops it from jumping around the text area
[23:09] <carpii> tdn, yes i had same problem
[23:09] <m_> every aspect.  I have not used it before.
[23:09] <carpii> i think i told youj i had same problem a few days ago, too :p
[23:09] <sere> robin0800: http://paste.ubuntu.com/173271/
[23:09] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Time from Kubuntu 9.04 reaching the desktop until first "fatal" error: 2 minutes.
[23:10] <carpii> tdn, i had to delete $HOME/.kde/share/.kde4/globalkeysrc or something
[23:10] <carpii> and reassign them all from scratch
[23:10] <coolkourt> ^ whats the difference between kubunt and ubunt
[23:10] <sere> robin0800: did the xorg.conf look ok?
[23:10] <carpii> it got real tedious because i had to do this every few boots
[23:10] <tdn> carpii, what?!
[23:10] <carpii> cool: kubuntu uses kde as default,. ubuntu uses gnome
[23:10] <nightdrever> ok ive installed gnome
[23:10] <carpii> tdn... thats only my findings
[23:10] <tdn> carpii, that file does not exist on my system.
[23:10] <nightdrever> was wondering how to change the items?
[23:11] <carpii> tdn, its something similar. maybe the pasth is not exact
[23:11] <coolkourt> ah, what about UNR what is the situation with that?
[23:11] <carpii> tdn, its a waste of time anyway. they kept getting overwritten so i wouldnt waste your time
[23:11] <carpii> its one reason why i oirdered a macbook this week
[23:12] <carpii> and keeping my desktop on ubuntu 8.04 until hell freezes over
[23:12] <tdn> carpii, what did you do then? Ditch Kubuntu alltogether?
[23:12] <carpii> tdn, i still use kubuntu on dekstop, but i never upgraded to kde 4 on this
[23:13] <carpii> all my problems started when i was stupid enough to upgrade to kde 4 on laptop :/
[23:13] <tdn> carpii, ok.
[23:13] <carpii> i was at a yahoo conference and laptop was crashing every 30 mins
[23:13] <robin0800> sere: Yes think so Would still like to see Xorg log file to see what it thinks
[23:13] <carpii> meanwhile everyone on macbooks was just laughing at me ;D
[23:13] <tdn> carpii, I can imagine :(
[23:13] <carpii> hehe
[23:14] <sere> robin0800: that was it :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/173271/
[23:16] <nightdrever> so does anyone know how to change gnome-do appearence?
[23:16] <nightdrever> for different icons etc
[23:17] <nightdrever> instead of a sound icon....id like an icon to pay music etc
[23:17] <robin0800> sere: No it isn't that is the configuration file not the Xorg-0 Log file
[23:19] <sere> robin0800: omg sorry
[23:19] <sere> robin0800: http://paste.ubuntu.com/173280/ :P
[23:24] <robin0800> sere: Did you see lines 212 & 213 WW They are warnings?
[23:28] <sere> robin0800: i see ..should i use 215/216?
[23:30] <robin0800> sere: Im not sure you have two graphic cards?
[23:32] <sere> robin0800: no just one
[23:34] <cjae> Hi, anyone know how to make the kde 4.2.3 panel put back to original w/o the use of  rm -rf ~/.kde, because I have many settings I would like to preserve, I forgot to put the lock widgets back on and now the time is huge and everything is too far right along the panel
[23:37] <robin0800> sere: line 187 set virtual size to be one of the failing sizes as a starting point a restricted driver might be better if you need that size for tv out
[23:38] <cjae> !panel
[23:38] <sere> robin0800: do u mean a restricted nvidia driver?
[23:39] <robin0800> sere yes
[23:39] <sere> robin0800: i can use 800x600 in windows would that make a difference?
[23:40] <robin0800> sere: It depends what the tv wants
[23:40] <sere> robin0800 i see
[23:41] <sere> robin0800 where can i find these drivers
[23:48] <robin0800> sere: Try google or they may be in the reopositrys
[23:49] <sere> robin0800: i have the restricted drivers checked in the pkg manager but no luck
[23:51] <sere> robin0800: brb switching to kde
[23:56] <cjae> I need to make everything move back to the left of my panel so I can see what windows are open  http://www.picturepush.com/host.php?image=1729605
[23:56] <cjae> it is the desktop on the left


[07:03] <Bashing-om> enough fun for one session - laters.
[08:01] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:06] <ducasse> gute morgen, lordievader :) all good?
[08:09] <lordievader> Doing good here. How are you ducasse ?
[08:10] <ducasse> warm and comfy, got my tea so everything is right with the world :)
[08:10] <lordievader> :)
[08:10] <lordievader> I got both ;)
[08:10] <lordievader> Girlfriend had to leave and couldn't finish her tea.
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> good day to all
[10:45] <ducasse> hi, lotuspsychje
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse how are you mate
[10:46] <ducasse> good thanks, and you?
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> great here, i organized my hardware this morning
[10:47] <ducasse> yay :)
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> all sorted nicely in 1 closet now
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> !info firefox xenial
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> big update again this morning
[10:51] <ducasse> my xenial hosts all autoupdate, so i don't really notice :)
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> cool
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> well i usually dont look neither, but when updates big ill click details
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> last big update was those kernel security flaws
[10:55] <ducasse> i run unattended-upgrades, and just get emails of updated packages. i rarely read the changelogs, tbh, unless i notice a problem.
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> cool
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> im having a weird workspaces issue here
[10:56] <ducasse> in unity?
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> yes, when clicking the apps, it doesnt switch to that workspace anymore
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> i have to manually click workspaces icon, to click
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> dmesg and syslog spit out nothing
[10:58] <ducasse> there are often settings for switching to desktop of active window, maybe you've changed it by mistake? just a wild guess.
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> didnt touch nothing no
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:27] <ducasse> top o' the morning, BluesKaj :)
[12:28] <BluesKaj> Hi ducasse ;-)
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> heya BluesKaj
[12:34] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje
[12:48] <ducasse> i had no idea it was so complicated to merge bookmarks between chromium and firefox...
[12:52] <ducasse> ah, there we go.
[12:52] <ducasse> :)
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-touch-ota-15-has-been-officially-released-for-ubuntu-phones-and-tablets-512689.shtml
[14:49] <ducasse> oooh, interesting :)
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: check your invite :p
[14:50] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: just noticed :)
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> !info lynis
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> anyone tested this one before?
[15:35] <daftykins> hrmm what kind of security are you after looking at? o0
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> just reading new lx.er article
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> http://www.2daygeek.com/lynis-security-scanning-auditing-and-hardening-tool-for-linux-unix-systems/#
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje@RooTBooK:~$ sudo lynis audit system
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> [ Lynis 2.1.1 ]
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> started test
[15:47] <daftykins> "your data is now securely wiped" :D
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> lol, looks pretty cool actually
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> test result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23948365/
[15:57] <daftykins> only 7,200 lines to glance through ;D
[15:57] <daftykins> hardening index 53, umm... ok!
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> big log isnt it
[17:24] <nacc> OerHeks: just fyi, that user was here yseterday, using upstream MySQL on Trusty
[17:25] <nacc> OerHeks: when provoked, said 16.04 wasn't stable for 18 months until after release, so had to do that on 14.04...
[17:25] <DArqueBishop> nacc: I also seriously doubt the guy has been using Linux for twenty years.
[17:25] <daftykins> XD
[17:25] <nacc> DArqueBishop: agreed :)
[17:27] <daftykins> users and always chasing new versions, ah.
[17:27] <EriC^^> hey daftykins
[17:27] <daftykins> hallo \o
[17:28] <EriC^^> how are ya?
[17:28] <OerHeks> nacc, oke, i was just wondering
[17:28] <daftykins> EriC^^: i finally got around to 'Arrival' the other night, quite enjoyed it :) although i was jealous of how much better my clients OLED TV looks...
[17:28] <daftykins> EriC^^: all good here thanks! how are you?
[17:28] <EriC^^> daftykins: cool, all good here as well
[17:29] <daftykins> my TV had the backlight bleed in the corners whilst OLED just looks so nice for deep blacks :(
[17:29] <EriC^^> i watched it as well, it was pretty good
[17:29] <EriC^^> yeah
[17:29] <EriC^^> i am drooling over an oled, they're expensive still and even more here
[17:29] <daftykins> well, until this happened... did i show you this? :D http://i.imgur.com/2J7I8Lg.jpg
[17:29] <EriC^^> 55" 1920x1080 lg for $2200
[17:29] <EriC^^> it's $2000 abroad and 4K
[17:29] <daftykins> oof
[17:30] <EriC^^> what the heck is that?
[17:30] <EriC^^> fingers from outside?
[17:31] <daftykins> his 3 year old son smudged up the whole thing :(
[17:31] <EriC^^> is that a tv?
[17:31] <daftykins> yeah his 65" LG OLED B6
[17:31] <EriC^^> oh
[17:31] <EriC^^> nice
[17:32] <daftykins> i'm currently downloading the Fallout 4 high-res texture pack - 55GB!
[17:32] <EriC^^> nice
[17:33] <EriC^^> it's coming out on the vr for hive or whatever its called
[17:33] <EriC^^> htc vive i think?
[17:33] <daftykins> ja
[17:33] <daftykins> everything VR is still quite early imo, low resolution displays in them
[17:34] <EriC^^> i was thinking of getting the ps4 vr just for the experience, but yeah what you said
[17:34] <EriC^^> it's still in the early phases, like testing somewhat
[17:34] <daftykins> i think you'd want a really fat pipe to the house just to handle the update requirements of modern consoles :)
[17:35] <EriC^^> ps4 has maybe 4 nice games for vr and that's it, plus it still uses the ps4 move controllers that didn't sell well for ps3
[17:36] <EriC^^> yup
[17:42] <ducasse> "Searching the computer in recovery mode only the "find" command is available for searching and "find" only searches the primary filesystem, and no extension filesystem, so can not ever search my 3T drive for anything."
[17:43] <ducasse> there's so much gibberish coming from this guy i'm not even going to try.
[17:43] <daftykins> indeed
[17:43] <daftykins> manually feeding 'find' a path to look in is easy :| it's the first parameter!
[17:44] <ducasse> and he wants to know if there is a 'refresh' option for df :)
[17:44] <daftykins> :D
[17:44] <daftykins> totally, involves cursor up ;)
[17:52] <ducasse> and if he'd been using linux for 20 years he'd know that going "FULL ALERT!! server has been down 4 days! urgent!" just pi**es people off :)
[17:52] <nacc> there are a lot of reasons to think they are being somewhat disingenuous :)
[17:54] <ducasse> most people who say that are straight-up lying. there just weren't that many users around 20 years ago :)
[18:17] <daftykins> you have to wonder what those 20 years were spent doing if a person can't run their systems :>
[18:20] <nacc> heh
[19:05] <ducasse> 19 ppas, and he still expects support...
[19:08] <daftykins> XD
[19:10] <OerHeks> gezakovacs - unetbootin, gnome3-team, libreoffice, mjasnik, moka, numix, simons-something, tgails, tista, vikoiadi, webupd8 ...
[19:11] <OerHeks> people with ppa's should be muted for 30 minutes, standard
[19:17] <daftykins> sounds like an online guide follower if ever i saw one
[19:19] <ducasse> i hate to think what else he's been doing to that system, seems his python is borked as well
[19:20] <daftykins> XD
[19:21] <daftykins> when python is messed with, doesn't that hose the whole machine?
[19:21] <ducasse> well, that sort of is the status quo, i think, or very near to it
[19:22] <ducasse> i don't really want to be too involved when this blows up :)
[19:24] <ducasse> ...and now: disk problems!
[19:24] <ducasse> lol
[19:24] <daftykins> wow really?
[19:24] <daftykins> that sounds amazing
[19:25]  * ducasse grabs the popcorn
[19:25]  * daftykins wants to see SMART output
[19:31] <daftykins> ducasse: gimme some!
[19:32] <OerHeks> grinn .. asking multiple questions randomly
[19:34] <daftykins> neat
[19:34] <OerHeks> and back to 3rd party tomcat install
[19:35] <daftykins> on the same host with the suspected bad disk!?
[19:36] <OerHeks> oh, i might mixed up 2 problem makers
[19:36] <ducasse> yup, he's still focusing on python...
[19:38] <ducasse> daftykins: he hasn't got smartmontools installed, lord knows if he's able to install with the state apt is in...
[19:39] <daftykins> if it's a normal desktop OS 'disks' might run
[20:55] <nacc> #ubuntu feels extra crazy today
[20:55] <daftykins> hmm what phase is the moon in?
[20:56] <nacc> o
[20:56] <nacc> i'll just assume a bad one :)
[20:56] <OerHeks> 4 day till full moon, icemoon
[20:57] <daftykins> :>
[20:57] <OerHeks> guy adds 8 repos, in precise, lovely
[20:57] <OerHeks> *xenial
[20:58] <daftykins> aww i wanted it to be precise, you could say "you have 2 months to do as you please"
[20:59] <nacc> daftykins: no, they also added precise manually
[20:59] <nacc> or changed it
[20:59] <daftykins> XD
[20:59] <daftykins> "i wanted THAT version!"
[21:00] <OerHeks> yes we can ...
[21:01] <ducasse> my brain hurts :-/
[21:02] <daftykins> due to #ubuntu ?
[21:02] <ducasse> yup
[21:03] <daftykins> time for food i think :)
[21:14] <ducasse> now: sleepytime. i've had my share of bulls**t for today :)