[05:14] <[1] Kermit> is anyone having issues with Feisty Fawn and wirless cards?
[05:16] <fdoving> eth01: try to add --prefix=/usr to your ./configure
[05:17] <eth01> ok
[05:17] <eth01> still does the same fdoving
[05:18] <fdoving> eth01: strange. then get bitlbee from http://packages.ubuntu.com/bitlbee
[05:19] <BruceLeeds> hi guys, is here someone who is fit with dcop?
[05:19] <eth01> how i do that?
[05:19] <fdoving> eth01: click on 'edgy' then go to the bottom of the next page. and click 'i386'
[05:19] <eth01> yep
[05:19] <eth01> wheres this
[05:19] <fdoving> BruceLeeds: yes. what is your question?
[05:19] <ubuntu> hi
[05:20] <BruceLeeds> fdoving: great! I would like to aktivate quickbrowsers via bash
[05:20] <newbie_101> can filezilla???
[05:20] <bazatu_3> any other suggestions to install my Nvidia Ge Force FX 5500 Agp 8x driver????
[05:20] <BruceLeeds> fdoving: how to do that?
[05:21] <fdoving> BruceLeeds: what quickbrosers?
[05:22] <fdoving> BruceLeeds: ah.. the buttons on the panel, with a specified folder
[05:22] <BruceLeeds> fdoving: you know, what quickbrowser are, aren't you? for the kicker. it's an applet
[05:22] <eth01> fdoving: where can i find this egdy?
[05:22] <eth01> fdoving: where can i find this edgy?
[05:22] <dotnet__> hi all
[05:22] <BruceLeeds> fdoving: that's it yes
[05:23] <fdoving> eth01: http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/b/bitlbee/bitlbee_1.0.3-1_i386.deb
[05:23] <eth01> kk thnks
[05:23] <fdoving> BruceLeeds: do you have more than one?
[05:23] <dotnet__> how can i find a turkkish room in kubuntu server ?
[05:23] <BruceLeeds> fdoving: yes three - I want to aktivate them via script
[05:23] <Jucato> !tk
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:24] <Jucato> !tr | dotnet__
[05:24] <ubotu> dotnet__: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[05:24] <lupul> can anyone tell me pls how to let valknut pass guarddog?
[05:24] <fdoving> BruceLeeds: i'm not sure you can.
[05:25] <BruceLeeds> fdoving: my problem is, that I can't unmount my external drives, while the quickbrowser is running. so at the moment i have to delete my quickbrowsers and add them, when I mount/unmount my ext. drive
[05:25] <bazatu_3> any other suggestions to install my Nvidia Ge Force FX 5500 Agp 8x driver????
[05:25] <fdoving> BruceLeeds: ah. i suggest using 'umount -l /some/disk' - that'll work with the quickbrowser running.
[05:26] <fdoving> BruceLeeds: i'd recommend making a script for that, instead.
[05:26] <BruceLeeds> fdoving: what does -l do?
[05:26] <eth01> where do i add http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/b/bitlbee/bitlbee_1.0.3-1_i386.deb this<< ?
[05:26] <fdoving> BruceLeeds: try #umount in the konqueror address field and find out :)
[05:27] <lupul> does anyone know how train guarddog to let valknut download from others?
[05:27] <lupul> please
[05:29] <philfo> ok, can anyone tell me how to speed up my computer using Kubuntu?  this doesn't feel like the 3.4GHz cpu that's in my machine
[05:29] <ins-dragonclaw> eth01: did you download it?
[05:29] <eth01> ermm
[05:29] <eth01> how do i download it?
[05:29] <ins-dragonclaw> lol
[05:29] <ins-dragonclaw> click to download?
[05:30] <eth01> yeh
[05:30] <eth01> then what
[05:30] <ins-dragonclaw> where did it download to?>
[05:30] <ins-dragonclaw> your /home folder?
[05:30] <eth01> desktop
[05:30] <ins-dragonclaw> ok
[05:31] <ins-dragonclaw> right click > Kubuntu Package Menu > Install package
[05:31] <eth01> ok
[05:31] <eth01> theres 3 files
[05:31] <eth01> lol
[05:32] <ins-dragonclaw> you downloaded 3, from one link? Oo
[05:32] <eth01> ahh
[05:32] <eth01> my faul
[05:32] <eth01> fauly
[05:32] <eth01> fault
[05:32] <ins-dragonclaw> lol....
[05:32] <eth01> i
[05:32] <eth01> untarved it
[05:32] <eth01> lol
[05:32] <ins-dragonclaw> lol
[05:33] <dotnet__> how can i download firefox for kub. ?
[05:34] <ins-dragonclaw> oh boy...
[05:34] <ins-dragonclaw> i use konqueror, so I don't know, sorry
[05:34] <dotnet__> i dont anything about kub. :(
[05:34] <ins-dragonclaw> Good news! Windows Solitaire runs under WINE! :D
[05:34] <dotnet__> i dont know
[05:34] <ins-dragonclaw> Finally - a decent solitare game...
[05:34] <BruceLeeds> fdoving: thank you very much - seams to work.
[05:35] <eth01> apparently i need net-inetd
[05:35] <philfo> is there a fix for the evolution mail bug that keeps the program from sending mail?
[05:35] <ins-dragonclaw> philfo: are you sure it's a bug?
[05:35] <ForgeAus> whats wrong with kpatience?
[05:35] <ins-dragonclaw> ForgeAus: nothing, except that I don't have it
[05:35] <philfo> I think it is.  I've got all my settings right.
[05:35] <ForgeAus> dotnet its in adept
[05:35] <philfo> or at least I thought
[05:35] <ins-dragonclaw> did you configure a SMTP account?
[05:36] <ForgeAus> ins then get it???
[05:36] <ins-dragonclaw> nah
[05:36] <ins-dragonclaw> I like solitare
[05:36] <eth01> how can i install netkit-inetd
[05:36] <ForgeAus> or aislerot (gnomes multi-patience game)
[05:36] <philfo> yeah, but I'll have to go back and see if everything is right
[05:36] <ForgeAus> the only reason I like aislerot is that it has cruel :)
[05:36] <ForgeAus> normally I prefer Kpatience tho
[05:36] <ins-dragonclaw> evolution is a gnome package, so I can't give specific help
[05:37] <ins-dragonclaw> and hello to you too, ForgeAus
[05:37] <ForgeAus> lol :) sup?
[05:37] <ins-dragonclaw> not much... :/
[05:37] <ins-dragonclaw> boredom is eating at me
[05:37] <ForgeAus> then deboredify yourself!
[05:37] <philfo> right.  I just moved to the Kubuntu desktop & want to use Kmail instead
[05:37] <philfo> but can't find it even though it's installed
[05:38] <fdoving> eth01: apt-get.
[05:38] <ForgeAus> mail isn't my forte
[05:38] <ins-dragonclaw> philfo:
[05:38] <ins-dragonclaw> open konsole
[05:38] <philfo> gotcha.  thanks.  I've got plenty of other issues to iron out as well
[05:38] <ins-dragonclaw> and type kmail
[05:38] <BluesKaj> fdoving, if I change the backports in the sources list from edgy to fiesty , will that give me access fiesty pkgs?
[05:38] <ForgeAus> fdoving or adept (kubuntu's gui package manager)
[05:38] <ins-dragonclaw> even better - use Kontact
[05:39] <ForgeAus> blueskaj possibly
[05:39] <fdoving> ForgeAus: yes. correct.
[05:39] <eth01> apt-get what
[05:39] <ins-dragonclaw> apt-get install netkit-inetd
[05:39] <fdoving> BluesKaj: no, not backports, as there are no feisty-backports yet.
[05:39] <ForgeAus> apt-get install <packagename>
[05:39] <ins-dragonclaw> ...
[05:39] <ins-dragonclaw> lol
[05:39] <ForgeAus> use sudo on the front of it tho
[05:39] <ins-dragonclaw> mhmm
[05:39] <ForgeAus> ie:
[05:39] <eth01> LOL.. >> : Type 'http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/b/bitlbee/bitlbee_1.0.3-1_i386.deb' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:39] <fdoving> BluesKaj: edgy-backports are packages for feisty backported to edgy. feisty-backports will be packages for feisty+1 backported to feisty.
[05:39] <ins-dragonclaw> unless you hacked kubuntu and are logged in as root
[05:39] <ForgeAus> sudo apt-get install <insert packagename here>
[05:40] <fdoving> eth01: that's not for sources.list. that was for you to download and install manually.
[05:40] <eth01> ahh
[05:40] <eth01> ill remove it
[05:40] <fdoving> please do.
[05:40] <ins-dragonclaw> lol
[05:40] <ins-dragonclaw> or suffer what fate?
[05:40] <ForgeAus> (if you want an interface to it, in curses use aptitude or in gui go to the k-menu and add/remove packages which starts adept)
[05:40] <eth01> ins stop saying lol
[05:40] <eth01> im a n00b
[05:40] <eth01> :(
[05:40] <ins-dragonclaw> no
[05:40] <ins-dragonclaw> L)
[05:40] <ins-dragonclaw> oops
[05:40] <ForgeAus> why is it I always end up in #Kubuntu when I'm running XP
[05:40] <eth01> lol
[05:40] <BluesKaj> ok, fdoving what about "main restricted universe multiverse ' ?
[05:40] <ins-dragonclaw> okay, 3 hours of sleep is not enough
[05:40] <ForgeAus> and in #windows while I'm in Kubuntu?
[05:41] <ins-dragonclaw> ForgeAus: Windows is trying to tell you something
[05:41] <ins-dragonclaw> and kubuntu is showing off
[05:41] <fdoving> eth01: it's ok to be new. download the package with konqueror. then right-click on it in the konqueror-filemanager. kubuntu menu -> install.
[05:41] <eth01> damn the apt database cant be opened
[05:41] <eth01> what should i do
[05:41] <ins-dragonclaw> i personally just use sudo dpkg -i <package name>
[05:41] <LtKermit> has anyone installed Fesity Fawn?
[05:42] <ins-dragonclaw> I wonder what Feisty+1 is gonna be called...
[05:42] <ForgeAus> LtKermit I'm not among them but I'm sure lots of people have
[05:42] <ForgeAus> greedy goat?
[05:42] <ins-dragonclaw> Probably Grumpy Goat or something...
[05:42] <ForgeAus> I don't know
[05:42] <ins-dragonclaw> lol
[05:42] <ForgeAus> anyway for fiesty theres #ubuntu+1
[05:42] <ins-dragonclaw> great minds think alike ... yet fools never differ ... :|
[05:42] <eth01> where can i edit the sources list?
[05:42] <fdoving> BluesKaj: yeah. those will give you access to feisty packages. but i'm not sure i will advice doing it.
[05:43] <ForgeAus> eth either in adept choose manage repositories
[05:43] <fdoving> BluesKaj: unless you also start pinning those pakcages to a lower priority than your edgy packages.
[05:43] <eth01> never mind done it
[05:43] <ForgeAus> or use some other package manager with inbuilt sources.list editor
[05:43] <eth01> wouldnt open
[05:43] <fdoving> LtKermit: i run feisty.
[05:43] <ForgeAus> or use kdesu kate (or kwrite) /var/apt/sources.list
[05:43] <ins-dragonclaw> batteries don't taste good
[05:43] <fdoving> eth01: kmenu -> run command -> 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'
[05:43] <ForgeAus> (assuming I got the path correct)
[05:43] <fdoving> ForgeAus: /etc , but else correct :)
[05:43] <LtKermit> ok, I joined #kubuntu+1 :-) to ask my question, thanks
[05:43] <VR_> /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:43] <ForgeAus> ahh yes etc! sorry... I knew something was off there...
[05:44] <eth01> the moral of the story is dont put in dodgey sources links
[05:44] <eth01> lol
[05:44] <ForgeAus> LtKermit *ubuntu*+1 not *Kubuntu*+1
[05:44] <ins-dragonclaw> lol
[05:44] <ForgeAus> persoanlly I wish there was also a #kubuntu+1)
[05:44] <ins-dragonclaw> [Error]  #kubuntu+1: No such channel.
[05:44] <ins-dragonclaw> lol....
[05:44] <LtKermit> oh yes, my bad :-)
[05:45] <eth01> what is the +1
[05:45] <eth01> lagged
[05:45] <ForgeAus> ins what client are you using?
[05:45] <eth01> or something
[05:45] <ins-dragonclaw> +1 version up
[05:45] <eth01> ah
[05:45] <ForgeAus> most of them will make a channel that doesn't exist
[05:45] <eth01> :P
[05:45] <ins-dragonclaw> ForgeAus: Konversation
[05:45] <ins-dragonclaw> I know
[05:45] <N6REJ> good moring
[05:45] <ins-dragonclaw> I did /info #kubuntu+1
[05:45] <ForgeAus> if you join it that is
[05:45] <ForgeAus> ahh IC
[05:45] <ins-dragonclaw> not /join #kubuntu+1 lol
[05:45] <eth01> yay it worked:P
[05:45] <ForgeAus> you must have just missed me
[05:45] <eXistenZ> Hello, I closed the terminal while apt-get was running, what can I do?
[05:45] <ins-dragonclaw> morning, N6REJ
[05:45] <ForgeAus> cos I was in there breifly about the time you'd have done that command
[05:45] <ins-dragonclaw> eXistenZ: reopen the terminal and restart
[05:46] <eXistenZ> ins-dragonclaw: It is still locked
[05:46] <ins-dragonclaw> *waves claws* I don't know
[05:46] <bazatu_3> any other suggestions to install my Nvidia Ge Force FX 5500 Agp 8x driver????
[05:47] <newbie_101> filezilla
[05:47] <eth01> ash: cd: bitlbee: Permission denied < im even using sudo ?
[05:47] <philfo> morning N6REJ
[05:47] <N6REJ> morning
[05:48] <[pyro] > N6REJ: only by an hour ;)
[05:49] <frank___> hi
[05:49] <LtKermit> I am having issues with my wireless PC card anyone able to offer some assistance?
[05:49] <jhutchins> !adept crash fix | eXistenZ
[05:49] <ubotu> eXistenZ: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:49] <N6REJ> lol, was outside talking to the phone guy, we've had problems with our pots and couldn't figure out why....... bad dsl filter LOL
[05:49] <Fr3nCjjjj> hi all
[05:50] <chuck> anyone able to help me playing encrypted DVDs? i've tried a few FAQs and think i have some conflicts
[05:50] <N6REJ> morning pyro
[05:50] <frank___> i have a problem installing kubuntu. The CD boots and then I get a blank (black)
[05:50] <jhutchins> LtKermit: There are so many different possible cards it's easier to follow the web pages.
[05:50] <chijin> frank___: try safe graphics mode
[05:50] <ins-dragonclaw> frank___: how much RAM do you have?
[05:50] <frank___> my graphics card is a geforce 7600 gt
[05:50] <frank___> 2 gig
[05:50] <jhutchins> !wifi | LtKermit
[05:50] <ubotu> LtKermit: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:50] <N6REJ> ewwwwwwwwwww I'm jealous!
[05:50] <ins-dragonclaw> okay
[05:50] <ins-dragonclaw> don't be
[05:51] <N6REJ> is that a ati chipset?
[05:51] <ins-dragonclaw> for all that ram the livecd won't work :)
[05:51] <LtKermit> ok I will check those out, for some reason my card just is no longer there
[05:51] <frank___> i assume(!) kubuntu can't load the drivers for the card
[05:51] <N6REJ> hahahhaaha
[05:51] <eXistenZ> jhutchins: Do you use anti-aliasing?
[05:51] <N6REJ> tooo funny
[05:51] <frank___> the knuppox aiglx cd doesn't boot either
[05:51] <jhutchins> eXistenZ: for fonts?
[05:51] <ins-dragonclaw> maybe the disk is damaged?
[05:51] <frojnd> Go to System->Preferences->Desktop Effects, click the 'Enable Desktop Effects' button.  Can't find that Enable Desktop Effects button..
[05:51] <frojnd> can someone tell me where it si
[05:51] <N6REJ> philfo: how did it go last night?
[05:51] <eXistenZ> jhutchins: yeah
[05:52] <frank___> chijin: which boot parameter?
[05:52] <Fr3nCjjjj> i have a ethernet router D-Link 524T and i don't can use adept manager....maybe the port used is closed? help
[05:52] <ins-dragonclaw> kubuntu and geforce have a good understanding, so it's likely not your card
[05:52] <chuck> frojnd: need to install the correct video drivers first i think
[05:52] <jhutchins> frank___: You might be able to get it installed in text mode then enable the card.
[05:52] <chijin> frank___: there's a safe mode in the live cd menu
[05:52] <bazatu_3> any other suggestions to install my Nvidia Ge Force FX 5500 Agp 8x driver????
[05:52] <jhutchins> frank___: The alternate CD.
[05:52] <N6REJ> Fr3nCjjjj: do you have iptables setup?
[05:52] <chuck> bazatu_3: you have any luck with envy?
[05:52] <bazatu_3> no :-s
[05:52] <chuck> what have you tried so far bazatu_3?
[05:52] <jhutchins> eXistenZ: I think it's on by default for me.
[05:52] <frojnd> chuck: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx and than  rename "nv" into "nvidia" ?
[05:52] <N6REJ> bazatu_3: I have the 5200 and it works without a problem
[05:53] <frank___> i' downloading kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso from http://ubuntu.intergenia.de/releases/kubuntu/edgy/
[05:53] <Fr3nCjjjj> N6REJ i don't think.... i'm a newbe :)
[05:53] <frank___> jhutchins: is this the right cd?
[05:53] <chuck> frojnd: I downloaded the driver from the nvidia website and followed their instructions. make sure you get the right version for your card
[05:53] <ins-dragonclaw> sounds right
[05:53] <N6REJ> frojnd: should I do that too? I haven't yet.
[05:53] <ins-dragonclaw> assuming you don't have a powerpc or amd64
[05:53] <chuck> frojnd: the script even updated the xorg.conf file
[05:53] <frank___> no, core2duo
[05:53] <jhutchins> frank___: See where it says "Alternate install CD" there?
[05:54] <ins-dragonclaw> *cedes to jhutchins*
[05:54] <N6REJ> hang on I have to make a todo of stuff
[05:54] <frank___> jhutchins: no o_O
[05:54] <frojnd> chuck: I  have fx5500
[05:54] <chuck> frojnd: i'll get you the link
[05:54] <jhutchins> frank___: 'bout 16 lines down on my screen.
[05:54] <frojnd> chuck: TNX
[05:55] <frank___> lol
[05:55] <ForgeAus> hehehe
[05:55] <chuck> frojnd: what processor do you have?
[05:56] <iNaNimAtE> If one is running Feisty testing 4, is there an easy way to upgrade to the beta 7.04 without wiping the hard drive? (apt-get dist-upgrade?)
[05:56] <N6REJ> darn it!
[05:56] <frojnd> chuck: it's 256mb nvidia
[05:56] <chuck> frojnd: what CPU (amd 64, pentium 4, etc?)
[05:56] <N6REJ> can't I have just one program that does mail, calendar, todo, etc???
[05:56] <Daisuke_Ido> iNaNimAtE: do you have all the most recent updates?
[05:56] <frojnd> chuck: amd 64
[05:56] <N6REJ> and will make noise when I have to do something!
[05:56] <frank___> wtf
[05:56] <Daisuke_Ido> where would i find kde's power saving options?
[05:56] <frojnd> chuck: but I have feisty 386
[05:56] <frank___> frank@0x711 {~} $ links -dump http://kubuntu.org/download.php | grep -i alternate |wc -l
[05:56] <frank___> 2
[05:57] <frank___> <- blind
[05:57] <Daisuke_Ido> because, i found monitor power saving...
[05:57] <ForgeAus> there will be a distro upgrade wizard
[05:57] <jhutchins> N6REJ: kontact is a merge of kmail, kalendar, etc.
[05:57] <ForgeAus> for feisty
[05:57] <iNaNimAtE> Daisuke_Ido: I run apt-get update/upgrade pretty regularly... I'm sure I'm missing a couple, but I could run it right now if necessary.
[05:57] <ForgeAus> not sure if its made/working yet
[05:57] <jhutchins> N6REJ: Will probably do what you want.
[05:57] <Daisuke_Ido> iNaNimAtE: do that and you'll already be at beta
[05:57] <N6REJ> jhutchins: will it work with ical?
[05:57] <ins-dragonclaw> N6REJ: you don't use Kontact?! :O
[05:57] <ForgeAus> but adept tries to load a Kubuntu distribution upgrade tool nowerdays (Probably if you have proposed in your repositories)
[05:57] <frank___> if i search within my browser it doesn't find any matches to "alte"
[05:57] <frank___> lol
[05:57] <chuck> frojnd: never worked with one, but try this:
[05:57] <chuck> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_1.0-9755.html
[05:57] <jhutchins> frank___: http://ubuntu.intergenia.de/releases/kubuntu/edgy/kubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso
[05:58] <iNaNimAtE> Daisuke_Ido: Oh, OK. When the official Feisty 7.04 comes out, would the same apply? (Running update/upgrade and you're already there?)
[05:58] <frojnd> chuck: ok
[05:58] <Daisuke_Ido> i would imagine so
[05:58] <chuck> frojnd: For this, you'll need to exit out of the X server back to a shell, and run that script as sudo
[05:58] <frank___> jhutchins: thanks ;p
[05:58] <jhutchins> http://ubuntu.intergenia.de/releases/kubuntu/edgy/kubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[05:58] <N6REJ> no I found lightening for TB and tried that but it only does a popup on events and I can't figure out how to add a "task" instead of event
[05:58] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't know for sure, but my best guess is yes, it would
[05:58] <N6REJ> ins-dragonclaw: my wife has the mac so I want it to work with her ical
[05:58] <chuck> frojnd: if it doesn't work and you need to back out. edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and change the driver line from nvidia to nv
[05:59] <chuck> frojnd: you comfortable doing all that?
[05:59] <frojnd> chuck: will this work even I've installed feisty 386 and not amd 64 version
[05:59] <N6REJ> so we can send appointments to/from each other and share the calendar
[05:59] <iNaNimAtE> Daisuke_Ido: OK, thanks. What does dist-upgrade do then?
[05:59] <ins-dragonclaw> Mail | Contacts | Calendar | To-do list | Journal | News | Notes | Feeds | Synchronisation
[05:59] <frojnd> chuck: yes
[05:59] <ins-dragonclaw> ok so Ical is the Mac calendar?
[05:59] <N6REJ> yes
[05:59] <kelsa|martalli> iNaNimAtE, it will remove package to make the most upgrades possible
[05:59] <chuck> frojnd: no idea there. if you haven't installed the amd 64 ubuntu i think you may need another one, let me get another link for ya
[05:59] <frojnd> chuck: /etc/init.d/kdm stop ? to stop server
[05:59] <frojnd> chuck: great
[05:59] <LtKermit> thank you ubotu, I think I found something in that link that will help, now I just need to get home and try it, thanks again!
[06:00] <jhutchins> iNaNimAtE: One of the reasons for making a distinctly different version and releasing it only after beta testing is that there may be significant changes to things like the C compiler, or to the way certain tasks are handled.  For that reason, you need to do a dist-upgrade, and for feisty there's a special tool being tested.  See https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade for more info.
[06:00] <ins-dragonclaw> interesting option: Import from UNIX Ical tool
[06:00] <chuck> frojnd: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-9755.html may work. try this first
[06:00] <ins-dragonclaw> sound helpful?
[06:00] <chuck> crtl + alt + backspace may work for stopping X
[06:00] <N6REJ> ins-dragonclaw: yep!
[06:00] <chuck> !x
[06:00] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:00] <ins-dragonclaw> you need the ical file in your home directory
[06:00] <Jucato> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace only restarts X
[06:00] <chuck> ohh.... woops
[06:00] <chuck> ehh....... try to log out and change your login preference at the menu?   =)  don't remember
[06:00] <N6REJ> ins-dragonclaw: ok, thats goig to be another toddo LOL
[06:00] <chuck> i usually end up there b/c something broke   =\
[06:00] <ForgeAus> xrandr also can be used for screen res if a program alters it
[06:01] <ins-dragonclaw> lol
[06:01] <N6REJ> ok, so no tb, us kontact?
[06:01] <iNaNimAtE> kelsa|martalli: Ah, that sounds dangerous =). jhutchins: Yeah, I saw that. It seemed as if you had to be running Edgy rather than a Feisty testing, but maybe it'd work.
[06:01] <deviance> How would I go about getting a package removed becasue its empty?
[06:01] <ins-dragonclaw> just export from the mac and send it over
[06:01] <ForgeAus> (and you want to choose a different one)
[06:01] <jhutchins> kalendar will handle iCal.
[06:01] <N6REJ> jhutchins: and thats part of kontact?
[06:01] <ins-dragonclaw> jhutchins: He knows. lol. but he has to get the .ical file
[06:01] <iNaNimAtE> N6REJ: Yes.
[06:01] <ForgeAus> but I doubt it would change the default
[06:01] <N6REJ> ins-dragonclaw: there is no files yet, we are just setting the network up
[06:01] <N6REJ> ok.
[06:01] <ins-dragonclaw> ahha
[06:01] <N6REJ> give me a minute to dumb tb
[06:02] <jhutchins> iNaNimAtE: Oh, yeah, for you just updates should bring you the final release.
[06:02] <N6REJ> dump even
[06:02] <ins-dragonclaw> lol
[06:02] <jhutchins> iNaNimAtE: But they'd know better in #ubuntu+1
[06:02] <ins-dragonclaw> dumb also works ... ;)
[06:02] <iNaNimAtE> jhutchins: Oh, nice. I'll check that out. Thank you.
[06:03] <deviance> How would I go about getting a package removed becasue its empty?
[06:03] <chuck> deviance: does apt-get remove work?
[06:03] <ForgeAus> empty packages? thats strange
[06:03] <deviance> I mean from the repositorys
[06:03] <ForgeAus> are you sure it isn't a metapacakge?
[06:03] <ins-dragonclaw> aptitude?
[06:03] <Xbehave> ive got a probelm with my cd drives on edgy. It stops copying tracks or encoding them after about 1 track
[06:03] <ForgeAus> (like kubuntu-desktop for example)
[06:03] <ins-dragonclaw> Xbehave: it's probably the CD
[06:03] <newbie_101> i am trying to compile a source but it says wx-config is missing
[06:03] <ins-dragonclaw> i've gotten that problem before
[06:04] <neil__> how do I install subversion?
[06:04] <neil__> I need it in order to allow beryl to get more themes...
[06:04] <jhutchins> Xbehave: You can try cleaning it.
[06:04] <neil__> is it as easy as adding it through synaptic?
[06:04] <ins-dragonclaw> Okay. Unofficial Nerd #444800 is now Off Duty
[06:04] <eth01> damn.... how come i get permission denied when i try to cd to bitlbee
[06:04] <ForgeAus> for Kubuntu its generally adept instead of synaptic
[06:04] <eth01> bash: cd: bitlbee: Permission denied
[06:04] <ForgeAus> (althought here was a Kynaptic at some point, kinda discontued-ish nowerdays. I think arklinux uses it)
[06:05] <ForgeAus> which reminds me I should mess around with it again :)
[06:05] <Camaxtli> eth01: try ls -ila on bitlbee and check the view permissions.
[06:05] <bazatu_3> i tryed that and i get only the Nvidia logo
[06:05] <eth01> ok
[06:05] <Xbehave> hmm im fairly sure its not the cd ill do a last check
[06:05] <jhutchins> !permission | eth01
[06:05] <ubotu> eth01: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[06:05] <joaquin> donde estan los espaoles
[06:05] <eth01> ls -ila
[06:05] <eth01> opps
[06:06] <eth01> drwx------  << its that
[06:06] <eth01> does it need the x
[06:06] <Jucato> !es | joaquin
[06:06] <ubotu> joaquin: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:07] <N6REJ> jhutchins: query?
[06:07] <eilker> i have problem with time, it shows 22:06 but now it is 19:06
[06:07] <jhutchins> N6REJ: Hm?  Fire away.
[06:07] <eilker> when i try to set, i see that it is 19:06 , but display is 22:06
[06:07] <eilker> any idea ?
[06:08] <Camaxtli> eth01: x symbolizes that it can be executed. And from what I gather it's set to 700 which basically means only root can use the dir.
[06:08] <eth01> ok
[06:08] <eth01> so set what then
[06:08] <Xbehave> its not the cd because file by file i can copy it but when i try the more than a file it stops around 1 (sometimes not even 1 in k3b)
[06:09] <Camaxtli> Just read up on permissions and how you can set it so all users can view it
[06:09] <bazatu_3> how do i known if my video card nvidia is working correctly?
[06:09] <eth01> hmm
[06:09] <eth01> i set +x
[06:09] <eth01> it seems empty :/
[06:09] <jhutchins> I gotta go get started with the wrenches, l8r.
[06:09] <Camaxtli> +x = executable iirc
[06:10] <eth01> its bitlbee :/
[06:10] <ins-dragonclaw> ./bitlbee ?
[06:10] <Xbehave> bazatu_3 is it a specific problem? what drivers do you have?
[06:10] <eth01> no im trying to cd into it
[06:10] <eth01> but its empty
[06:10] <ins-dragonclaw> okay...
[06:10] <ins-dragonclaw> did you try ls -A ?
[06:10] <eth01> but its the home directory so surely it must have files
[06:10] <eth01> sec
[06:10] <bazatu_3> the basic drivers
[06:10] <eilker> !time
[06:10] <ubotu> time: The GNU time program for measuring cpu resource usage. In component main, is standard. Version 1.7-21 (edgy), package size 31 kB, installed size 144 kB
[06:10] <ins-dragonclaw> !clock
[06:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about clock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:10] <Camaxtli> eth01: Did you create it using sudo?
[06:10] <ins-dragonclaw> lol...
[06:10] <eth01> package manager
[06:11] <eth01> its a .#deb
[06:11] <eth01> its a .deb
[06:11] <ins-dragonclaw> i wonder...
[06:11] <ins-dragonclaw> !myself
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <ins-dragonclaw> haha
[06:11] <eth01> !bitlbee
[06:11] <ubotu> bitlbee: An IRC to other chat networks gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1 (edgy), package size 297 kB, installed size 768 kB
[06:11] <eth01> ^^
[06:11] <Xbehave> it may be the basic drivers causing the problem try the nvidia drivers
[06:11] <Xbehave> !nvidia
[06:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:12] <bazatu_3> i just downloaded from the nvidia site but when i try to install i get an error:No Precompiled Kernel
[06:13] <bazatu_3> and gcc-version-chec failed
[06:13] <eth01> ive found the conf etc. where do i start it though?
[06:14] <ins-dragonclaw> eth01: what's the file called?
[06:14] <ins-dragonclaw> bitlbee.conf ?
[06:14] <jhutchins> ins-dragonclaw: If you want to explore the bot it's polite to use /msg
[06:14] <eth01> bitlbee.conf
[06:14] <eth01> yep
[06:14] <N6REJ> back
[06:14] <ins-dragonclaw> hmmm
[06:14] <ins-dragonclaw> are there any .pl files?
[06:14] <eth01> nah
[06:14] <bazatu_3> and another erorr/usr/src/nv/conftest.sh:line19:cc: comand not found
[06:14] <ins-dragonclaw> .sh ?
[06:14] <eth01> this is /etc/bitlbee/
[06:15] <ins-dragonclaw> ...
[06:15] <eth01> the home directory is /usr/lib/bitlbee << gives me permission denied though
[06:15] <Camaxtli> :/
[06:15] <ins-dragonclaw> odd
[06:15] <N6REJ> eth01: type whoami
[06:15] <Camaxtli> eth01: Those are the libraries the program uses
[06:15] <bazatu_3> and says:could not compile gcc.version-check
[06:15] <eth01> tmarkey
[06:15] <eth01> it says
[06:16] <ins-dragonclaw> ins-dragonclaw@Draken:/usr/bin$ whoami
[06:16] <ins-dragonclaw> ins-dragonclaw
[06:16] <ins-dragonclaw> ....
[06:16] <ins-dragonclaw> my pc's powers of observation are astonishing...
[06:16] <N6REJ> lol
[06:16] <N6REJ> eth01: what are the permissions of that file?
[06:16] <eth01> which 1
[06:16] <N6REJ> wait, why is home /usr/lib?
[06:17] <eth01> Setting up bitlbee (1.0.3-1) ...
[06:17] <eth01> Adding system user `bitlbee' with uid 108...
[06:17] <eth01> Adding new user `bitlbee' (108) with group `nogroup'.
[06:17] <eth01> Creating home directory `/var/lib/bitlbee/'.
[06:17] <eth01> ...
[06:17] <ins-dragonclaw> oh boy it has it's own user
[06:17] <N6REJ> OH!
[06:17] <eth01> ahh
[06:17] <ins-dragonclaw> sudo --user bitlbee <whatever> ?
[06:17] <eth01> so login with bitlvee?
[06:17] <eth01> ok
[06:18] <N6REJ> permissio denied because your not part of its group
[06:18] <Xbehave> k3b has froxen is there an easy way to fine out why?
[06:18] <BluesKaj> what are the multiverse universe and security pkg repos named as in the sources list .."fiesty fawn" or.... ?  the ppl at #ubuntu+1 aren't answering my question
[06:18] <ins-dragonclaw> sudo -u #108 <commands>
[06:18] <frojnd> chuck: yeah! it works and the best part is it's fully support ;)
[06:18] <eth01> ok
[06:18] <eth01> with the # ?
[06:18] <ins-dragonclaw> try it
[06:18] <frojnd> I just needed to install build-essential so nvida was able to recompile the module :)
[06:18] <ins-dragonclaw> if it fails remove the #
[06:18] <N6REJ> eth01: cause there is no "nogroup"
[06:18] <eth01> ok
[06:19] <ins-dragonclaw> !bitlbee
[06:19] <ubotu> bitlbee: An IRC to other chat networks gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1 (edgy), package size 297 kB, installed size 768 kB
[06:19] <N6REJ> ins-dragonclaw: was it ok to install clamav before I'm ready to config it?
[06:19] <ins-dragonclaw> so what exactly -IS- bitlbee anyway?
[06:19] <ins-dragonclaw> clamav?
[06:19] <ins-dragonclaw> are you installing kontact from skratch?
[06:20] <eth01> puts all of your im contacts into a virtual local running IRC channel
[06:20] <c1|freaky> all console stuff suddenly has a strange font - can someone tell me what happened?
[06:20] <N6REJ> NO
[06:20] <ins-dragonclaw> okokok don't shout O.o
[06:20] <N6REJ> ins-dragonclaw: just installed the kdepim meta-package
[06:20] <eth01> lol
[06:20] <N6REJ> sorry! haven't had my coffee yet.
[06:20] <ins-dragonclaw> ...
[06:20] <c1|freaky> eth01: and what can u do then? just /msg them and stuff?
[06:20] <eth01> yup
[06:20] <ins-dragonclaw> well, i wouldn't know, N6REJ - my Kubuntu came with kontact preinstalled
[06:20] <eth01> but its a bugger to install
[06:20] <eth01> it has its own user
[06:20] <ins-dragonclaw> lol
[06:20] <c1|freaky> eth01: and can u do that on a server too or do u have to have any program running?
[06:21] <ins-dragonclaw> that's why i have kopete :P
[06:21] <c1|freaky> like kopete
[06:21] <c1|freaky> which it works with
[06:21] <eth01> you can bind it to an available IP
[06:21] <eth01> with a PORT
[06:21] <N6REJ> ins-dragonclaw: OH, ok mine didn't apparently
[06:21] <c1|freaky> can u set ur f.e. ICQ information somewhere and it logs in loads the contact list and let ppl join an irc channel?
[06:21] <waxyfresh> whats the mac style menu bar named?
[06:21] <ins-dragonclaw> O.O
[06:21] <c1|freaky> that'd be strange
[06:22] <ins-dragonclaw> ICQ to IRC...
[06:22] <ins-dragonclaw> that's like microsoft going opensource
[06:22] <c1|freaky> cuz u usually have connection limits
[06:22] <N6REJ> hahahhaaha
[06:22] <eth01> yer lol :/
[06:22] <eth01> btw
[06:22] <N6REJ> ins-dragonclaw: now this is werid..... kontact WAS installed by default but was not showing up in adept!
[06:22] <eth01> when i do sudo etc etc with the # it doesnt come bk with any listings
[06:22] <eth01> so it might actually be empty
[06:22] <N6REJ> ins-dragonclaw: I threw it away from my dock
[06:23] <frojnd> OK I've installed nvidia newest drivers for my card, but still don't know where is this button: Go to System->Preferences->Desktop Effects, click the 'Enable Desktop Effects' button.
[06:23] <ins-dragonclaw> N6REJ: did you set that little dropdown box at the top to "Any Suite" ?
[06:23] <ins-dragonclaw> oh boy i'm losing windows everywhere
[06:23] <eth01> sudo -u bitlbee #108 ls << correct?
[06:23] <N6REJ> no
[06:24] <ins-dragonclaw> try it then
[06:24] <N6REJ> k
[06:24] <ins-dragonclaw> eth01: no
[06:24] <ins-dragonclaw> sudo -u bitlbee ls -A
[06:24] <eth01> oh ok
[06:24] <eth01> ahh
[06:24] <ins-dragonclaw> sudo <perform as another user> [User:Bitlbee]  [Command: ls -A]
[06:24] <eth01> that worked. it looks empty
[06:24] <ins-dragonclaw> o...kay
[06:25] <ins-dragonclaw> was the package 0kb to download?
[06:25] <eth01> im not sure wether thats gd or bad
[06:25] <eth01> no
[06:25] <eth01> it was a .deb
[06:25] <ins-dragonclaw> this is weird
[06:25] <eth01> 297 kb
[06:25] <N6REJ> ins-dragonclaw: uhhh? where is this drop-down box????????
[06:25] <ins-dragonclaw> !bitlbee
[06:25] <ubotu> bitlbee: An IRC to other chat networks gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1 (edgy), package size 297 kB, installed size 768 kB
[06:25] <eth01> yea
[06:25] <ins-dragonclaw> should be at the top of adept install manager
[06:26] <ins-dragonclaw> next to the search box
[06:26] <eth01> il check
[06:26] <ins-dragonclaw> !adept crash fix
[06:26] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:26] <Xbehave> k3b has crashed how can i find out if it was ripper or encoder
[06:26] <ins-dragonclaw> my adept died...
[06:26] <waxyfresh> can i get any transparency without installing kde?
[06:26] <N6REJ> ins-dragonclaw: nope and I've never seen that option before
[06:27] <ins-dragonclaw> kdesu adept_installer
[06:27] <ins-dragonclaw> there's a searchbox in the upper left corner
[06:27] <ins-dragonclaw> next to it a dropdown box
[06:27] <ins-dragonclaw> set to KDE by default
[06:28] <Xbehave> waxyfresh you can try bery
[06:28] <Xbehave> *beryl
[06:28] <N6REJ> ins-dragonclaw: want me to run that from con?
[06:28] <ins-dragonclaw> that's the command that has to run, so yes
[06:28] <N6REJ> can I send you a pic?
[06:28] <ins-dragonclaw> via dcc?
[06:28] <N6REJ> *shrug
[06:28] <N6REJ> never tried before
[06:28] <ins-dragonclaw> okay - then how do you plan on sending?
[06:29] <N6REJ> wait, let me try that first
[06:29] <ins-dragonclaw> k
[06:29] <ins-dragonclaw> you -could- have emailed it to me, but oh well...
[06:30] <N6REJ> "command adept-installer" not found
[06:30] <ins-dragonclaw> underscore not dash
[06:30] <N6REJ> let me see if its installed
[06:30] <ins-dragonclaw> adept _ installer
[06:30] <ins-dragonclaw> not adept - installer
[06:30] <N6REJ> OH THAT ... thats the "add programs" thing
[06:31] <ins-dragonclaw> exactly
[06:31] <neil__> does k/ubuntu come with any built in ftp clients? or could someone recommend one?
[06:31] <N6REJ> ok hardly use it
[06:31] <fdoving> neil__: konqueror supports ftp:/
[06:31] <N6REJ> ok, I'm in any suite now
[06:31] <ins-dragonclaw> neil__: I think konqueror does ftp, but i;m not sure
[06:31] <ins-dragonclaw> oh wait
[06:31] <ins-dragonclaw> i'm being silly
[06:31] <ins-dragonclaw> yes, it can do ftp
[06:31] <ins-dragonclaw> it's called "Remote Folders"
[06:31] <raffytaffy> i like wuftp
[06:32] <ins-dragonclaw> integrated with Konqueror
[06:32] <ins-dragonclaw> not at all, N6REJ :)
[06:32] <N6REJ> ok, now that I have "any suite" what do you want me to do?
[06:32] <ins-dragonclaw> in the "Office" category in the sidebar
[06:32] <ins-dragonclaw> Kontact should be there
[06:32] <N6REJ> yep
[06:33] <neil__> thanks guys :)
[06:33] <frojnd> !aptfix
[06:33] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:33] <N6REJ> yep and installed... its fine now I found it in my programs folder
[06:33] <ins-dragonclaw> you're welcome, neil__
[06:33] <frojnd> hm
[06:33] <frojnd> aaaaaaaaa
[06:33] <frojnd> aptfix doesn't help
[06:33] <N6REJ> everythings back as it was except for konqueror, I don't have that in the doc cause I rarely use it.
[06:33] <ins-dragonclaw> ok N6REJ. start it up ...
[06:34] <ins-dragonclaw> lol ok
[06:34] <WorldBFree> can i install kubuntu from an .iso saved to a hard disk...  i dont have a current installation of any sort of linux but do have a live cd of another distro that uses grub
[06:34] <frojnd> it's still: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the list directory what can I do?
[06:34] <N6REJ> starting
[06:34] <frojnd> this is when I try sudo apt-get update (before I close it not intend to)
[06:34] <raffytaffy> fronjnd: open system terminal
[06:34] <ins-dragonclaw> frojnd: try ps -A | grep apt
[06:34] <raffytaffy> and see what is running
[06:34] <jetsaredim> /ubuntu
[06:34] <ins-dragonclaw> are there any results?
[06:34] <fdoving> frojnd: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/apt/lists/lock' ?
[06:34] <Xbehave> i cant kill k3b atall!
[06:34] <N6REJ> can I have it hide what channel I'm in unless I ask to seeit?
[06:35] <fdoving> frojnd: aptfix does the same for another file.
[06:35] <ins-dragonclaw> Xbehave: what is the PID for K3b ?
[06:35] <raffytaffy> Xbehave : try "killall k3b"
[06:35] <frojnd> fdoving: very nice :))
[06:35] <ins-dragonclaw> or kill -9 <pid of k3b>
[06:35] <ins-dragonclaw> N6REJ: woah, slow down there...
[06:35] <fdoving> ins-dragonclaw: or even kill -9 $(pidof k3b) ;)
[06:36] <N6REJ> ins-dragonclaw: hang on wife came in... gotta handle this report
[06:36] <ins-dragonclaw> dollarsigns remind me of microsoft, so no thanks :)
[06:36] <ins-dragonclaw> ok
[06:36] <eilker> !fix adept crash
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix adept crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <ins-dragonclaw> I never thought my days as IRC server admin would come in handy on linux...
[06:36] <ins-dragonclaw> !adept crash fix
[06:36] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:36] <fdoving> ins-dragonclaw: ok, use backticks then kill -9 `pidof k3b` :)
[06:36] <raffytaffy> ins-dragonclaw : http://humorix.org/articles/2006/11/hades/    i think this will intrest u
[06:37] <frojnd> hm, what's the difference: apt-get vs adept
[06:37] <ins-dragonclaw> adept is the gui interface, i think
[06:37] <ins-dragonclaw> aptitude runs in the terminal
[06:37] <fdoving> frojnd: they do the same. apt-get is for console, adept is qt graphical interface.
[06:37] <Xbehave> WorldBFree i think its hard you none of the above worked
[06:37] <ins-dragonclaw> and apt-* is a commandline program
[06:38] <frojnd> aptitude not?
[06:38] <Xbehave> non of the above worked
[06:38] <fdoving> frojnd: aptitude is also a fronted to the same. so is synaptic
[06:38] <frojnd> I used to do that in terminal: sudo aptitude smth
[06:39] <ins-dragonclaw> raffytaffy: LOL
[06:39] <raffytaffy> :))
[06:39] <ins-dragonclaw> So MS has competition after all... ;)
[06:39] <Xbehave> WorldBFree: what i meant to say before i forgot how to split sentances up was. its hard you need a specail bootloader
[06:39] <waxyfresh> aptitude says i have 20 broken packages and wants to uninstall 698 mbs of usefull stuff,my package list is fro source-o-matic.what should i do?
[06:39] <waxyfresh> never mind
[06:39] <grb> hi anybody knows of a good cvs client in KDE that can ADD RECURSIVELY?
[06:39] <raffytaffy> 20 BROKEN PACKAGES:O whoaaa
[06:39] <ins-dragonclaw> get 2 more mbs and burn a cd :)
[06:40] <fdoving> waxyfresh: you can sue apt-mark to fix that.
[06:40] <c1|freaky> i recently installed ubuntu-desktop on a kubuntu installation - now the console font of yakuake is small and almost not readable ... can someone tell me how i can change the font back?
[06:41] <fdoving> waxyfresh: 'sudo apt-mark unmarkauto <list-of-packages-you-want-to-keep-separated-by-spaces>'
[06:41] <WorldBFree> Xbehave: but the cd has a working grub
[06:41] <N6REJ> ins-dragonclaw: ok, I'm ready to work again
[06:41] <ins-dragonclaw> Things are pretty slow here at Humorix. Jon Splatz took a lunch break last year and hasn't been seen since.  <--- this is the kind of humor i like :)
[06:41] <fdoving> grb: tried cervisia?
[06:41] <WorldBFree> cant i just copy those files from the cd menu.lst to wherever they need to go and then specify the image location
[06:41] <Xbehave> i think you need something special to be able to boot of an iso
[06:42] <grb> fdoving: yes, but it doesn't support add recursively.
[06:42] <ins-dragonclaw> i know how to mount iso's, but not to boot from them
[06:42] <fdoving> grb: ok, then i don't know.
[06:42] <waxyfresh> fdoving: sue?
[06:42] <ins-dragonclaw> okay N6REJ - fire away with the questions and I'll try to help
[06:42] <N6REJ> step one, I need to setup/verify my email settings for main account
[06:42] <WorldBFree> Xbehave: hmm is there any way to do a hd install?
[06:43] <WorldBFree> i have no blank cds
[06:43] <fdoving> waxyfresh: about your packages.
[06:43] <ins-dragonclaw> oh boy...
[06:43] <ins-dragonclaw> Click Mail in the sidebar, then go Settings > Configure KMail
[06:43] <N6REJ> burn the iso to a drive?
[06:44] <ins-dragonclaw> WorldBFree: :O
[06:44] <ins-dragonclaw> You use a computer and you have no blank cds?
[06:45] <WorldBFree> ins-dragonclaw: i just ran out yesterday
[06:45] <fdoving> WorldBFree: there are various ways. check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[06:45] <Xbehave> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28948
[06:45] <ins-dragonclaw> !install
[06:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[06:45] <ins-dragonclaw> lol
[06:45] <Xbehave> if you want it done today that may be worth a read
[06:45] <N6REJ> ins-dragonclaw: now I'm managing identies at this point.  So am I setting up a default email account for each server at this point?
[06:45] <WorldBFree> fdoving: i saw that but it didnt mention where to store the image and if it can be booted up on a fat32 partition
[06:45] <N6REJ> or should I say each domain?
[06:46] <WorldBFree> ive done iso booting before with other distros, but each is a bit different
[06:46] <WorldBFree> im aware an iso cannot be booted up froma ntfs, but not sure about a fat32 or vfat or whatever you like to call it
[06:46] <ins-dragonclaw> N6REJ: how many email accounts do you have?
[06:46] <N6REJ> about 20
[06:47] <ins-dragonclaw> o...kay
[06:47] <N6REJ> and around 7 domains
[06:47] <ins-dragonclaw> i suppose that they're all pop3?
[06:47] <N6REJ> yes
[06:47] <ins-dragonclaw> mkay. and how many people will use kmail?
[06:47] <N6REJ> me
[06:47] <ins-dragonclaw> or kontact, same thing
[06:47] <ins-dragonclaw> JUST you?
[06:47] <N6REJ> this is MY pc
[06:47] <ins-dragonclaw> k
[06:47] <ins-dragonclaw> so you only need 1 identity then
[06:48] <soulrider_> i use Kmail
[06:48] <ins-dragonclaw> add all 20 accounts under the receiving tab
[06:48] <ins-dragonclaw> hello soulrider_
[06:48] <N6REJ> but I have 4 smtp servers that need to be used
[06:48] <ins-dragonclaw> and only add the accounts you really use to send email under the Sending tab
[06:48] <ins-dragonclaw> you set each server up indivdually
[06:48] <Xbehave> WorldBFree:  i think http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28948 should work you extract the cd to a new partition then boot off it
[06:48] <N6REJ> under identity or some place else?
[06:49] <ins-dragonclaw> no, under the Sending tab in the Accounts page
[06:49] <N6REJ> ok, thats fine
[06:49] <ins-dragonclaw> Click Add -> Ok and you'll see the rest
[06:49] <soulrider_> hi ins-dragonclaw
[06:49] <N6REJ> ok, so recieve first.. let me do that.
[06:49] <N6REJ> hiya soulrider_
[06:49] <soulrider_> oh, hi N6REJ
[06:50] <ins-dragonclaw> you'll have to create all 20 accounts by hand, so it might take a while :)
[06:50] <N6REJ> ins-dragonclaw: do I need to add a recieving account for the default account?
[06:50] <soulrider_> brb, lunch :P
[06:51] <WorldBFree> ok im going to try messing with things
[06:51] <WorldBFree> ill tell you how it goes
[06:51] <N6REJ> default identie I should say
[06:51] <ins-dragonclaw> yes
[06:51] <N6REJ> k
[06:51] <ins-dragonclaw> at least one
[06:51] <N6REJ> understood
[06:51] <ins-dragonclaw> and one Sending, if you're planning on using Kontact for email :)
[06:52] <fdoving> !away > n6rej
[06:52] <ins-dragonclaw> okay, silly question
[06:52] <Buddha|> I'm trying to install the OS-L icon set, but it complains about not being able to find 'convert'.  What package would that be in?
[06:52] <ins-dragonclaw> how do i use .tar.gz files ?
[06:52] <ins-dragonclaw> (about time i asked silly questions lol)
[06:53] <LjL> !tar
[06:53] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[06:53] <fdoving> Buddha|: graphicsmagick-imagemagick-compat
[06:54] <LjL> of course, how you use the *contents* of them depends on... the contents.
[06:54] <ins-dragonclaw> yay
[06:54] <LjL> .tar.gz are just compressed archive files like many other. then if what a tarball contains is (for instance) sourcecode, you'll have to compile it - which is a very common thing for tarballs to contain
[06:54] <ins-dragonclaw> ok, weird error - apparently i have an archive full of files that Ark can see, but can't extract
[06:55] <LjL> ins-dragonclaw: perhaps you're trying to extract them to some directory that you don't have write permissions for? try extracting to your desktop directory
[06:55] <ins-dragonclaw> unzip:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of nonsense-0.6.tar.gz or
[06:55] <ins-dragonclaw> ?
[06:56] <LjL> or...?
[06:56] <ins-dragonclaw> I have write permissions in /home and all subfolders
[06:56] <ins-dragonclaw> ok ,full lines
[06:56] <LjL> (why's it calling unzip, besides, if it's a tar.gz?)
[06:56] <ins-dragonclaw> unzip:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of nonsense-0.6.tar.gz or
[06:56] <ins-dragonclaw>         nonsense-0.6.tar.gz.zip, and cannot find nonsense-0.6.tar.gz.ZIP, period.
[06:56] <ins-dragonclaw> lol
[06:56] <LjL> hm
[06:56] <Buddha|> fdoving: thanks!
[06:56] <LjL> it looks like it thinks it's a ZIP file instead of a tar.gz...
[06:56] <ins-dragonclaw> wait
[06:56] <ins-dragonclaw> so how do i tell it to treat it as a .tar.gz?
[06:57] <LjL> ins-dragonclaw: i can tell you how to do it from the console, but i'm not sure why Ark is behaving that way, let me fire it up
[06:57] <ins-dragonclaw> k
[06:57] <ins-dragonclaw> well, maybe i need a restart... - wine, amarok and adept have been acting up recently
[06:57] <ins-dragonclaw> oh .... wait...
[06:57] <ins-dragonclaw> it's not ark
[06:57] <ins-dragonclaw> the file is damaged
[06:57] <LjL> ins-dragonclaw: hm, it would be weird. anyway, try extracting from the console, just to make sure the file is not corrupted
[06:58] <LjL> ha. =)
[06:58] <ins-dragonclaw> i just extracted another .tar.gz
[06:58] <grb> hi anybody knows of a good cvs client in KDE that can ADD RECURSIVELY?
[06:58] <ins-dragonclaw> ok, redownloading
[06:58] <mikeh> hi all, just used the dist upgrade tool to go from edgy to feisty, went perfectly, thanks! :)
[06:58] <jeffm> Hi, all
[06:59] <N6REJ> fdoving: oh, ok, sorry
[06:59] <LjL> grb, the two CVS clients i know about for KDE are in the packages "cervisia" and "kdesdk-misc"
[06:59] <N6REJ> morning ljl
[06:59] <LjL> hi
[06:59] <ins-dragonclaw> o  kay. nothing. LjL - what's the konsole command to extract .tar.gz files?
[06:59] <LjL> grb: no sorry, not kdesdk-misc... which was it. it was a KIO slave
[06:59] <grb> k, thnks. Cervisia doesn't support add recursively.
[07:00] <grb> ins-dragonclaw:  tar -zxvf <your file>
[07:00] <LjL> ah no i'm probably confused with SVN, perhaps there's not CVS kioslave
[07:00] <jeffm> I'm trying to use a Kubuntu box to remotely control a Vista laptop (it's work, not my choice) using Remote Desktop, but rdesktop 1.4 doesn't work with Vista.  rdesktop 1.5 does, and I can download, compile, and install the source, but I was wondering what's the "right" way to do it with Adept or apt-get?
[07:00] <LjL> ins-dragonclaw: what he said, or even just "tar xf filename" (but you probably want the verbosity in this case)
[07:01] <N6REJ> is there a way to make konversatio beep when someone trys to send me a message and I don't have my "focus" on konversation?
[07:01] <ins-dragonclaw> it worked
[07:01] <ins-dragonclaw> odd that Ark didn't work...
[07:02] <LjL> yeah, quite odd especially if it works with other files
[07:02] <Tm_T> jeffm: atleast Feisty has 1.5 so it would be easy to install via apt-get/adept
[07:02] <LjL> N6REJ: yes
[07:02] <ins-dragonclaw> Settings > Configure NOtifications
[07:02] <ins-dragonclaw> "Someone wrote your nick in a message"
[07:03] <N6REJ> perfect, found it... tyvm!  I do so much stuff its hard to know whats goig on sometimes.
[07:04] <N6REJ> and it works :D
[07:04] <ins-dragonclaw> bbl all
[07:04] <ins-dragonclaw> this dragon has to feed...
[07:04] <CarinArr> didn't know you could unzip tar.gz without the z flag
[07:04] <LjL> CarinArr: with relatively new versions of GNU tar, you can. same for bz2
[07:04] <xst> I use knetworkmanager to handle my wireless connections. But when I reboot I have to enter WPA password again. Can I somehow make it store the entered passwords?
[07:04] <kofler> Hello again.
[07:05] <kofler> I'm trying to integrate Kerberos authentication and SSH, but I'm getting this message over and over: No principal in keytab matches desired name
[07:05] <kofler> What does that mean? Google doesn't reveal much. Someone on the web mentioned he/she entered kinit -k on the machine hosting the SSH daemon and it prints out the same type of list as my machine does.
[07:05] <CarinArr> LjL: heh, creature of habit.. never even thought to try it
[07:06] <LjL> CarinArr: oh, for that matter i sometimes still type gunzip filename.tar.gz ; tar -x -f filename.tar
[07:07] <CarinArr> heh
[07:07] <jeffm> Tm_T: hmm.  I may upgrade to Fawn later, but this is a work machine.  If I want to upgrade later, should I be looking for a .deb, or just compile and install?
[07:10] <LjL> jeffm, edgy backports *has* rdesktop 1.5
[07:10] <LjL> !rdesktop edgy
[07:10] <LjL> !rdesktop edgy-backports
[07:10] <ubotu> rdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.1-1.1 (edgy), package size 98 kB, installed size 388 kB
[07:10] <ubotu> rdesktop: RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.0-1build1~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 119 kB, installed size 444 kB
[07:10] <LjL> !backports > jeffm    (jeffm, see the private message from Ubotu)
[07:11] <MinceR> !away > MinceR
[07:13] <MinceR> what kind of bot is ubotu?
[07:13] <fdoving> soupy
[07:13] <LjL> supybot
[07:13] <fdoving> -o
[07:14] <Admiral_Chicago> !botsnack
[07:14] <ubotu> Yum!
[07:14] <Admiral_Chicago> a hungry kind of bot
[07:14] <wolferine> can I convert a .pdf into something I can use in Open Office?
[07:14] <fdoving> wolferine: like text?
[07:15] <Tm_T> jeffm: no need to compile in Feisty, no idea how it is in Edgy, see "apt-cache policy rdesktop"
[07:15] <fdoving> wolferine: pdftotext is in the xpdf-utils package.
[07:15] <Tm_T> oh no, root is here!
[07:15] <MinceR> :)
[07:16] <wolferine> its in poppler-utils fdoving ?
[07:16] <fdoving> might be there also.
[07:16] <ins-dragonclaw> ARGH
[07:16] <ins-dragonclaw> ok, i'm back
[07:16] <wolferine> how would I access it in that app?
[07:18] <wolferine> hmm, I dint see how to use the xpdf-utils
[07:19] <fdoving> wolferine: they are commandline tools.
[07:19] <wolferine> bash: xpdf-utils: command not found
[07:19] <fdoving> the packagename is xpdf-utils,
[07:19] <fdoving> the command is pdftotext
[07:19] <fdoving> pdftotext file.pdf file.txt
[07:19] <wolferine> pdf2
[07:19] <wolferine> pdf2dsc  pdf2ps
[07:20] <wolferine> its not here
[07:20] <dhq__> welll i am am searching for a nice compiler for linux like borland c++
[07:20] <wolferine> nor is it with poppler-utils
[07:20] <gae> #ubuntu.it
[07:21] <fdoving> wolferine: ok. it's in xpdf-utils.
[07:21] <fdoving> dhq__: gcc is pretty nice.
[07:21] <soulrider_> !mono
[07:21] <ubotu> mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu7.1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB
[07:22] <dhq__> fdoving: well i need something like turbo c++
[07:22] <wolferine> i beleive you, but its not in my xpdf-utils package I guess
[07:22] <wolferine> its 3.01-9
[07:23] <fdoving> wolferine: mine too.
[07:23] <fdoving> xpdf-utils: /usr/bin/pdftotext
[07:23] <soulrider_> !wiki
[07:23] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[07:24] <wolferine> well, guess its a manula install then
[07:24] <wolferine> i dont see it anywhere here
[07:24] <gae> #kubuntu.it
[07:25] <fdoving> wolferine: it has been in xpdf-utils since ubuntus brith with warty.
[07:25] <wolferine> im not saying your wrong, but I dont have it
[07:25] <fdoving> sice breezy it has also been in poppler-utils.
[07:26] <fdoving> are you sure you have the package installed and the spelling and path correct?
[07:26] <wolferine> well, for installing, I used Synaptic
[07:26] <wolferine> when I search for it, poppler was already installed
[07:27] <fdoving> wolferine: ok, manually (without tab completion) write 'pdftotext' into a terminal
[07:27] <wolferine> pdftotext
[07:27] <wolferine> bash: pdftotext: command not found
[07:27] <fdoving> then you don't have 'xpdf-utils' installed.
[07:27] <wolferine> honestly, its not here
[07:27] <fdoving> nor poppler-utils
[07:28] <wolferine> i cannot have both
[07:28] <wolferine> its one or the other
[07:28] <fdoving> pick one.
[07:28] <fdoving> it doesn't matter which.
[07:28] <wolferine> fdoving, your being a bit insulting now
[07:28] <jeffm> All, thanks for the help with backports.  I added the repository and rdesktop 1.5.0 is downloading as I type.  Thanks again.
[07:28] <wolferine> i have told you more than once its not here
[07:29] <fdoving> wolferine: sorry, i don't mean to be. i'm just a little stright forward.
[07:29] <wolferine> how would I do a manual install of the pdftotext?
[07:29] <ins-dragonclaw> "We are committed to deliver metrics as part of our five-year plan to waste a lot of time in meetings and better serve our customers."
[07:29] <wolferine> fdoving, your missing the obvious
[07:29] <wolferine> its not installed
[07:29] <mcquaid> anyone here use dolphin?  I want the actions extract to/here when dealing with rars
[07:29] <wolferine> whether I have xpdf-utils or poppler
[07:29] <mcquaid> it's there with other compression types, but only konq has the action for rars
[07:30] <fdoving> wolferine: ok. try this in console 'dpkg -s xpdf-utils|grep Status'
[07:31] <fdoving> wolferine: same for poppler-utils: 'dpkg -s poppler-utils|grep Status' - is either of them installed?
[07:31] <wolferine> hmmm
[07:32] <wolferine> Package `xpdf-utils' is not installed
[07:32] <eilker> i type my password every login as " /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>"  i wanna login automatically, what to do ?
[07:32] <wolferine>  dpkg -s poppler-utils|grep Status
[07:32] <wolferine> Status: purge ok not-installed
[07:32] <wolferine> but in Synaptic, its been installed...
[07:33] <fdoving> wolferine: ok. if you now close synaptic, and do 'sudo apt-get install poppler-utils' then try again, to use the pdftotext command. it'll work. :)
[07:34] <wolferine> yeah
[07:34] <wolferine> doing that now
[07:34] <wolferine> synaptic had a bug though?
[07:34] <fdoving> probably. i'm not familiar with it.
[07:34] <fdoving> sorry for being a bitch.
[07:35] <ins-dragonclaw> eilker: what client do you use? Konversation?
[07:35] <wolferine> wow, thanks, finally :/
[07:35] <[GuS] > Hi!
[07:35] <soulrider_> you guys know if its possible to compile C++ .NET in mono? and if the code will be 100% compatible with visual studio 2005 ?
[07:35] <soulrider_> hi [GuS]
[07:35] <ForgeAus> um soulrider, yes and no, depending on the code you use
[07:36] <ForgeAus> actually no with the C++ .NET
[07:36] <eXistenZ> Which is better for the eyes: black or white background?
[07:36] <wolferine> thanks fdoving, sorry, I was getting impatient as well
[07:36] <soulrider_> ForgeAus: were gonna program in c++ .net in college and i hope i dont have to go use windoze
[07:36] <ForgeAus> but mono sourcecode CAN be 100% compatible
[07:36] <ins-dragonclaw> eXistenZ: white text on black background
[07:36] <[GuS] > hi soulrider_ .
[07:36] <soulrider_> ForgeAus: so i cant do C++ .net in mono ?
[07:36] <ForgeAus> um you could try sharpdevelop under wine???
[07:36] <ins-dragonclaw> or blue background, if you like it
[07:37] <ForgeAus> (if you can get .net framework installing into it)
[07:37] <ForgeAus> (or bridge it to mono)
[07:37] <soulrider> ForgeAus: =/
[07:37] <ForgeAus> then again not sure if even sharpdev has C++
[07:37] <ForgeAus> (it has C# definitely
[07:37] <ForgeAus> but then so does monodevelop
[07:37] <soulrider> i guess ill have to use windoze then
[07:37] <ForgeAus> seems like it
[07:37] <wolferine> hmm
[07:38] <wolferine> that still isnt what I was looking for
[07:38] <wolferine> the .txt loses alot of the formatting from the .pdf file
[07:38] <ForgeAus> or you could virtualize it in vmware :)
[07:38] <soulrider> ForgeAus: i was thinking of tht actually :P
[07:38] <ForgeAus> (still requires an installation)
[07:38] <soulrider> ForgeAus: does the curren kernel in edgy support kernel virtualization ?
[07:39] <ForgeAus> um feisty does, edgy I don't think so, but I'm not entirely certain
[07:39] <ForgeAus> do you mean kvm?
[07:39] <soulrider> yeah, kvm
[07:39] <ForgeAus> yeah needs fiesty
[07:39] <soulrider> isnt it faster than vmware ?
[07:39] <soulrider> ah, k
[07:39] <ForgeAus> possibly I don't know enough about it
[07:40] <philfo> anyone using a Canon i9100 printer?  I need a driver
[07:40] <eilker> ins-dragonclaw: yeah konversation
[07:40] <mehdi_> hey every body
[07:40] <ForgeAus> speedwise anyhow
[07:40] <mehdi_> !!!
[07:40] <ins-dragonclaw> press F8
[07:40] <fdoving> philfo: been at linuxprinting.org ?
[07:40] <soulrider> hi mehdi_
[07:40] <ForgeAus> I think its very much related to qemu
[07:40] <ins-dragonclaw> bottom of the box = Auto Identify
[07:40] <philfo> nope.  thanks
[07:40] <ins-dragonclaw> fill in NickServ and your pasword
[07:40] <ins-dragonclaw> pass*
[07:40] <soulrider> ForgeAus: qemu ?
[07:40] <ForgeAus> yeah
[07:40] <ForgeAus> its a processor emulator
[07:41] <soulrider> i see
[07:41] <mehdi_> do someone know something about how to obtain OS information (cmd) ???
[07:41] <soulrider> do you know if code from g++ will compile on .net ?
[07:41] <ForgeAus> (mostly x86's of course but does arm, mips and quite a few others the 86k's need to be developed more tho)
[07:41] <soulrider> mehdi_: try uname -a
[07:41] <eilker> ins-dragonclaw: yeah NickServ and mypass
[07:41] <soulrider> !version | mehdi_
[07:41] <ubotu> mehdi_: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[07:41] <eilker> ins-dragonclaw: it is like that
[07:41] <eilker> ins-dragonclaw: let me try again
[07:42] <ins-dragonclaw> So if Service=NickServ and password=yourpass, then it should identify you automatically on login
[07:42] <ForgeAus> soulrider again depends on the code
[07:42] <soulrider> ahh, ok ForgeAus
[07:42] <ForgeAus> some g++ code is platform-dependant... others isn't
[07:42] <mehdi_> soulrider thx but that dont solve my problem  i want specifique information like lshw
[07:42] <soulrider> maybe lspci ?
[07:42] <fdoving> mehdi_: what info exactly?
[07:43] <mehdi_> for the memory size and the name  of the display card ????
[07:43] <jhutchins> mehdi_: try lspci
[07:43] <soulrider> i think ill use vmware... although i DO have a windows XP installation, but im too lazy to reboot into it :P
[07:43] <fdoving> mehdi_: cat /proc/meminfo for mem, cat /proc/cpuinfo for cpu, 'lspci' for pci things. lsusb, lshw and so on.
[07:44] <eilker> pfff
[07:45] <philfo> i9100 printer is not even on the list at linuxprinting
[07:45] <eilker> ins-dragonclaw: sth wrong with my real name in that list
[07:45] <eilker> ins-dragonclaw: see there is a box for real nama
[07:45] <eilker> *name
[07:45] <prucor> Why IconPositions isn't copied from kubuntu-defaults?
[07:45] <ins-dragonclaw> yes there is
[07:45] <ins-dragonclaw> you can make that whatever you want
[07:45] <prucor> I want some icons by default for all users, how can I do this?
[07:45] <ins-dragonclaw> yours is set to eilke at the moment
[07:46] <prucor> Actually i get those icons in desktop using kde profile, but they aren't on the right position
[07:46] <eilker> ins-dragonclaw: NickServ and mypass
[07:46] <eilker> ins-dragonclaw: and sth wrong :)
[07:47] <ins-dragonclaw> hmm
[07:47] <dhq__> fdoving: i upgraded to fiesty and now my vmware doesnt work
[07:47] <ins-dragonclaw> so Service: NickServ
[07:47] <Gast621> good evening
[07:47] <ins-dragonclaw> and password: yourpass
[07:47] <ins-dragonclaw> then it will identify you when you start konversation
[07:47] <soulrider> dhq__: i think you need to run the setuo again
[07:47] <fdoving> dhq__: sorry, i don't know much about vmware.
[07:48] <soulrider> you need to do it every time hte kernel changes
[07:48] <dhq__> soulrider: i tried it no use
[07:48] <Gast621> little question about Kubuntu...is it possible to have fix a specific language with an user or can I only change it globaly ?
[07:48] <eilker> dhq:_ i will try to help u just a second
[07:48] <soulrider> dhq__:
[07:48] <fdoving> Gast621: you can change per user.
[07:48] <soulrider> do you have the kernel headers ?
 let me check again
[07:48] <ins-dragonclaw> k
[07:48] <ins-dragonclaw> Ctrl+Q and restart Konversation, eilker
[07:49] <eilker> ins-dragonclaw> done , i  had a special character at my pass, i was typing it wrong
[07:49] <frojnd> so how can I start beryl?
[07:49] <eilker> :)
[07:49] <ins-dragonclaw> lol ok
[07:49] <eilker> frojnd: beryl //in konsole
[07:50] <ForgeAus> assuming its installed
[07:50] <fdoving> frojnd: kmenu -> run command -> 'beryl-manager' -> run
[07:50] <eilker> frojnd: than beryl manager /then choose beryl
[07:50] <eilker> dhq_:
[07:50] <eilker> ?
[07:50] <eilker> what was your problem ?
[07:50] <ForgeAus> best choose xgl from KDM
[07:50] <dhq__> eilker: well i upgraded to fiesty and vmware doesnt work
[07:50] <ForgeAus> dhq prolly needs reconfiguring
[07:51] <ForgeAus> vmware does that
[07:51] <ForgeAus> it breaks if you just change the kernel
[07:51] <ForgeAus> well "breaks"
[07:51] <eilker> dhq_: yeah did u try reconfigure ?
[07:51] <ForgeAus> it probably will still work tho (I think)
[07:51] <eilker> forgeaus: 50 % :)
[07:52] <eilker> forgeaus: he may get weird problems too :)
[07:52] <dhq__> eilker: how
[07:52] <mehdi_> me
[07:52] <ForgeAus> dhq how did you install it in the first place? is it player? server or workstation?
[07:52] <eilker> dhq_: u should run config.pl
[07:53] <dhq__> vmware-config.pl
[07:53] <eilker> yeah
[07:54] <eilker> most probably it will create some new modules for your kernel
[07:54] <ForgeAus> if its just player you might be lucky enough to get away with a dpkg --configure vmware-player (note: that was just a sample line not esure if its actually correct the package name and dpkg command format may differ)
[07:54] <eilker> btw i am talking for vmware- server
[07:54] <dhq__> eilker: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12188/
[07:55] <Buddha|> I'm trying to install the OS-L icon set, but it's not working.  Anyone else using it?
[07:55] <ForgeAus> Buddha it depends on what icons are included in the set
[07:56] <eilker> dhq_: could you try to reinstall again pls ?
[07:56] <ForgeAus> if the set only includes say 64x64 icons then only certain ones will change...
[07:56] <dhq__> eilker: how do i uninstall it
[07:56] <Buddha|> ForgeAus: It has 128x128 and 32x32
[07:57] <billy> does anyone know how to play a DVD in kubuntu?  I get the following xine Error from Kaffeine: No plugin found to handle this resource (dvd:///dev/scd0)
[07:57] <ForgeAus> Buddha the 32x32 ones should tend to show, I tihnk the kmenu uses them by default (but I could be wrong there)
[07:57] <c1|freaky> hi all i have a strange problem: i can't run any gl screensavers but glxgears gives me: 31967 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6393.255 FPS ... what could be wrong with the screensavers?
[07:57] <Buddha|> ForgeAus: It's just using the standard KDE icons
[07:58] <eilker> see there is a script there ,uninstall.pl like that i am not sure about its name,      btw dont uninstall just reinstall , i had same problem when i upgradeg to edgy, this solved
[07:58] <usuari> I you know
[07:58] <usuari> hi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:58] <eilker> dhq_: but uninstalling will be better
[07:58] <usuari> you script
[07:58] <ForgeAus> Buddha have you selected it in kcontrol?
[07:58] <ForgeAus> to use that set?
[07:58] <Buddha|> If everyone left, how come there's still 386 people here?
[07:58] <Buddha|> ForgeAus: yes, I have
[07:58] <usuari> i first chat
[07:59] <usuari> feka
[07:59] <eilker> usuari ?
[07:59] <ForgeAus> then if that didn't work, I'm sorry I can't help you...
[07:59] <usuari> swe sepeak spanish
[07:59] <eilker> !es
[07:59] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:59] <usuari> jajaa
[07:59] <usuari> io
[07:59] <usuari> no quiero ayuda
[07:59] <usuari> :D
[08:00] <usuari> ^
[08:00] <usuari> ^^
[08:00] <usuari> @
[08:00] <usuari> 6{[
[08:00] <usuari> commas!
[08:00] <ForgeAus> I must admit tho the icons look nice :)
[08:00] <eilker> usuari: dont kill the channell
[08:00] <usuari> !netstat
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about netstat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:00] <eth01> :/
[08:00] <usuari> !crear particiones
[08:00] <ForgeAus> they'd suit a baghira theme
[08:01] <eth01> !es usuari
[08:01] <ubotu> es: An extensible shell based on `rc'. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.90beta1-10.1 (edgy), package size 99 kB, installed size 248 kB
[08:01] <billy> does anyone know how to play a DVD in kubuntu?
[08:01] <ins-dragonclaw> lol
[08:01] <eth01> lol
[08:01] <ins-dragonclaw> !es > usuari
[08:01] <eth01> billy.
[08:01] <usuari> lol:D
[08:01] <Buddha|> ForgeAus: Okay, it works if I change the icon size under 'Advanced' to 32x32 or 128x128, but that leaves me with either tiny or gigantic icons.
[08:01] <ins-dragonclaw> anyway, i'm off
[08:01] <usuari> bye
[08:01] <usuari> ;)
[08:01] <eth01> billy: start menu> mulitmedia> try 1 of those :)
[08:02] <jhutchins> ForgeAus: Maybe they're not installed?  (The screensavers)
[08:02] <billy> i tried Kaffeine, it gives this error: No plugin found to handle this resource (dvd:///dev/scd0)
[08:02] <eilker> he had fun, and went :lol:
[08:02] <eth01> !multimedia > billy
[08:02] <N6REJ> now that lunch is over with.
[08:03] <Buddha|> !multimedia > Buddha|
[08:03] <N6REJ> how easy and stable is the fiesty upgrade?
[08:03] <eth01> billy: try amarok media player instead
[08:03] <jhutchins> N6REJ: Those who know would probably be in #ubuntu+1.
[08:03] <billy> ok
[08:04] <N6REJ> jhutchins: devs?
[08:04] <jhutchins> N6REJ: It is still officially beta, as is Feisty itself.
[08:04] <eth01> im just using edgy :)
[08:04] <N6REJ> jhutchins: yeah, it has an april release date
[08:04] <jhutchins> It's not like it suddenly, magically goes stable when they make it official, but they tend to want a minimum level of fixed bugs, etc.
[08:04] <N6REJ> yep
[08:05] <eth01> any1 know any gd places for themes for kubuntu/
[08:05] <MinceR> what's the difference between kubuntu and an ubuntu install without ubuntu-desktop but with kubuntu-desktop?
[08:05] <billy> eth01: amarok appears to be an audio only player unless i'm mistaken
[08:05] <jhutchins> eth01: http://www.kde-look.org/
[08:05] <eth01> t
[08:05] <eth01> ty **
[08:05] <eth01> yes billy it it
[08:05] <dhq__> how do i uninstall vmware
[08:06] <jhutchins> MinceR: If you install kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu, you will have both gnome and kde.
[08:06] <familia> billy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[08:06] <jhutchins> dhq__: How did you install it?
[08:07] <MinceR> i did that and i wonder if it makes it as much kubuntu as ubuntu :)
[08:07] <jhutchins> MinceR: You'll have more gnome stuff than a standard kubuntu install, some of your default software may be different.
[08:07] <dhq__> sudo ./vmware-compile.pl
[08:07] <MinceR> i see
[08:08] <jhutchins> MinceR: I have both KDE and XFCE on this particular system.
[08:08] <dhq__> jhutchins:  sudo ./vmware-compile.pl
[08:09] <eth01> jhutchins: ive got my theme which i like now what i do ?
[08:09] <philfo> N6REJ: query
[08:09] <jhutchins> dhq__: Then you'll have to find a vmware-remove.pl, or go throught that script and figure out what it did, undo it manually.
[08:10] <dhq__> eilker: how do i unstall vmware
[08:10] <jhutchins> eth01: Darned if I know.  Should come with instructions.
[08:10] <jhutchins> !themes | eth01
[08:10] <ubotu> eth01: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[08:10] <N6REJ> coming
[08:11] <Tm_T> mooh
[08:11] <eth01> ok
[08:11] <eilker> dhq__>: do u have install setup now ?
[08:11] <jhutchins> eth01: So...
[08:11] <dhq__> yes
[08:11] <jhutchins> !changethemes | eth01
[08:11] <ubotu> eth01: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. [KDE]  For a good KDE guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[08:11] <dhq__> eilker: yes
[08:11] <N6REJ> philfo: i'm in pm
[08:11] <philfo> I have to register for the PM, give me a sec.  sorry
[08:11] <eilker> dhq__>: ok, there should be a script, uninstall.pl (i am not sure about its name) , find it pls
[08:12] <N6REJ> k
[08:12] <dhq__> eilker: found
[08:12] <eth01> i need the KDE colour manager apparently.
[08:12] <eilker> dhq_: run it in console,
[08:13] <eilker> dhq_: can you ?
[08:14] <neil__> anybody know a nice site to find backgrounds?
[08:14] <neil__> not really kubuntu specific, but hey
[08:14] <neil__> just installed beryl so want to finish of the sytem
[08:14] <eilker> dhq__> www.kde-look.org
[08:14] <eilker> sorry :)
[08:15] <N6REJ> jhutchins: I'm having a problem configuring kmail.  It wants to dump all my mail into the "local" folder and I don't want that.  With my numerous accounts I need them segragated into their own "inbox/outbox/drafts/" etc
[08:15] <eilker> neil_: www.kde-look.org and  www.beryl-themes.org
[08:15] <jhutchins> N6REJ: It's in the account config.
[08:15] <neil__> thanks eilker
[08:16] <eilker> u welcome
[08:16] <N6REJ> jhutchins: it only allows me to use local.  ins said I only need one idenity but I'm thinking thats wrong.
[08:16] <jhutchins> N6REJ: Near the bottom, Destination Folder.  You'll have to create the folder first.
[08:16] <jhutchins> N6REJ: If you use imap, it will be seperate already.
[08:16] <N6REJ> and then it will create the inbox's and such?
[08:16] <N6REJ> OH
[08:16] <N6REJ> hmmmm
[08:16] <N6REJ> wonder if I can imap?
[08:16] <jhutchins> N6REJ: Identity is outbound, Accounts is inbound.
[08:16] <N6REJ> ok
[08:17] <N6REJ> that helps
[08:17] <N6REJ> so one identity per server!
[08:17] <jhutchins> imap it's all on the server.
[08:17] <jhutchins> N6REJ: Not actually needed, but you can.
[08:17] <N6REJ> jhutchins: k that makes more sense to me really
[08:17] <philfo> where is it I'm registering this nick?
[08:17] <N6REJ> I SEND to 4 diff servers
[08:17] <philfo> to use PM's
[08:17] <jhutchins> I have about six identities, several accounts.
[08:18] <dhq__> eilker: i reinstalled and still http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12193/
[08:18] <N6REJ> philfo: /msg help nickserv
[08:18] <jhutchins> philfo: Freenode.
[08:19] <jhutchins> /msg nickserv help actually.
[08:19] <FOAD> Hi.
[08:19] <FOAD> How do I rename a device icon on the desktop?
[08:20] <jhutchins> FOAD: Right-click, properties, or select, F2.
[08:20] <eilker> dhq_: did u look at here ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware?action=show&redirect=InstallingVMware#head-9973a76766d2a1a45c0da13567ce73c227904cbf
[08:20] <jhutchins> FOAD: They're internally generated though, so it may come back with it's original name.
[08:21] <jhutchins> FOAD: O is not a valid hex character, btw, that should be 0.
[08:21] <FOAD> jhutchins: gets me access denied.
[08:21] <jhutchins> FOAD: Yeah, it's a system thing then.
[08:21] <eth01> :/
[08:21] <eilker> dhq_: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[08:21] <FOAD> jhutchins: so what can I do instead?
[08:22] <FOAD> My iPod has an ugly capitalized name.
[08:22] <jhutchins> FOAD: Create a shortcut to the device with your own name.
[08:22] <N6REJ> jhutchins: can you help with samba?
[08:22] <jhutchins> FOAD: Rename the iPod.
[08:22] <jhutchins> N6REJ: Gimme a bit, I'll be back.
[08:22] <N6REJ> k
[08:23] <FOAD> Hmm.
[08:23] <philfo> I don't get it.
[08:24] <N6REJ> philfo: hang on.
[08:24] <FOAD> jhutchins: thanks.
[08:25] <N6REJ> philfo: you still got the pm open?
[08:25] <philfo> no worries.  I am just reading the tutorials.
[08:25] <philfo> yup.
[08:25] <N6REJ> philfo: no need.
[08:25] <N6REJ> go look
[08:26] <philfo> where does that go?
[08:26] <philfo> in a browser bar?
[08:27] <N6REJ> see the blue line?
[08:27] <N6REJ> put that in the ubuntu IRC channel
[08:27] <N6REJ> browser?
[08:27] <N6REJ> no
[08:27] <N6REJ> what irc client?
[08:27] <philfo> konversation
[08:27] <N6REJ> k
[08:27] <N6REJ> see "ubuntu IRC"?
[08:27] <philfo> yup
[08:28] <N6REJ> click it and then paste that blue line in
[08:28] <metty_> hi all - whats the syntax for getting the installed distribution version pls?
[08:28] <N6REJ> make sure before you hit enter you change the last word to whatever you want.
[08:28] <N6REJ> metty_: I believe its uname -a
[08:28] <eilker> metty_>: cat /etc/issues
[08:28] <dhq__> eilker: still the same
[08:29] <fdoving> metty_: or 'lsb_release -a'
[08:29] <metty_> fdoving: thx ;)
[08:29] <eilker> metty_>: cat /etc/issue
[08:29] <N6REJ> eilker: that may not work because for example I change my issues for ftp and such
[08:29] <metty_> eilker: thx
[08:29] <eilker> np
[08:30] <eilker> dhq_: after installing packages, did you try reinstall again ?
[08:30] <N6REJ> philfo: let me know when your done with that.
[08:30] <eilker> N6REJ: yeah correct
[08:30] <Ahmuck> any ideas on a ledger program for small buisness?
[08:31] <N6REJ> Ahmuck: there are several, what are your needs/desires
[08:31] <eilker> dhq_: now u changed your OS, and u need to install all needed packages again, think that u do a fresh install of vmware
[08:31] <Ahmuck> service contracts, labor, and parts
[08:31] <N6REJ> Ahmuck: what country?
[08:31] <eilker> dhq_: btw there is #vmware too, may be they can help better
[08:31] <Ahmuck> US
[08:32] <N6REJ> Ahmuck: web store interface necessary?
[08:32] <Ahmuck> no, small buisness
[08:32] <N6REJ> Ahmuck: POS desirable?
[08:32] <Ahmuck> for this application, no, just record keeping
[08:32] <N6REJ> Ahmuck: but would be a nice freebie?
[08:32] <Ahmuck> mainly for record purposes
[08:33] <Ahmuck> well, a oss gnu app, yes
[08:33] <eilker> dhq_: it cant create vmvon modules cause of incompability, of course if feisty has some unfixed things i dont know
[08:33] <N6REJ> Ahmuck: ok, I have two recommendations and I've done a TON of research.
[08:33] <Ahmuck> kewl
[08:34] <Ahmuck> N6REJ: your recomendations?
[08:34] <N6REJ> Ahmuck: I would use either sql-ledger or ledger-smb.  Ledger-smb is a fork of sql-ledger.  There are several others that are strong contenders and do several other things better, but for me ( I have a credit/debit block ) they were to .....mmmmm... unweildy?
[08:34] <N6REJ> Ahmuck: sorry I don't type as fast as I used to.
[08:34] <N6REJ> Ahmuck: on the upside sql-ledger is in the repos
[08:35] <Ahmuck> i have looked at ledgersmb for some time, but i can't get the thing to run
[08:35] <Ahmuck> and ledgersmb is NOT in the repos
[08:35] <N6REJ> Ahmuck: though it is one step behind.
[08:35] <N6REJ> Ahmuck: correct
[08:35] <N6REJ> Ahmuck: notice I said sql-ledger is in the repos, not ledger-smb
[08:35] <N6REJ> Ahmuck: :D
[08:35] <fdoving> Ahmuck: simpleinvoices is nice too, if you just need simple invoices. http://www.simpleinvoices.org/
[08:36] <flomanea> hi
[08:36] <nosrednaekim> flomanea: hi
[08:36] <N6REJ> fdoving: I need product control so it probably wont' work for me.
[08:36] <flomanea> how do you do
[08:37] <Ahmuck> ah simple invoices looks very simple
[08:37] <nosrednaekim> good..
[08:37] <Ahmuck> like i could get by with it at first
[08:37] <N6REJ> Ahmuck: gl
[08:39] <N6REJ> is there like an egg-timer app for kde?
[08:39] <nosrednaekim> kteatime..?
[08:40] <nosrednaekim> for tea..but works for anything
[08:40] <nosrednaekim> !kteatime
[08:40] <ubotu> kteatime: KDE utility for making a fine cup of tea. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 85 kB, installed size 388 kB
[08:41] <N6REJ> great, should work fine.. ty.
[08:41] <N6REJ> wife is always asking me to wake her in an hour and I always forget
[08:41] <nosrednaekim> NP
[08:41] <nosrednaekim> haha
[08:43] <N6REJ> PERFECT
[08:43] <N6REJ> tyvm nosrednaekim
[08:44] <vince_> hi
[08:44] <vince_> i just install kubuntu today
[08:45] <tsdgeos> hi
[08:45] <vince_> very nice
[08:45] <tsdgeos> :-)
[08:45] <nosrednaekim> thank you
[08:46] <vince_> on a laptop compaq
[08:46] <N6REJ> nosrednaekim:  is there a better audio - mp3 creator then kaudio creator?
[08:46] <N6REJ> its painfully slow
[08:46] <chijin> lame on the command line
[08:46] <nosrednaekim> N6REJ: reaally? its pretty fast for me
[08:46] <nosrednaekim> I can rip a CD in about 15 minutes
[08:46] <N6REJ> nosrednaekim: then somethings wrong, it takes hours here.
[08:47] <nosrednaekim> hmmm....
[08:47] <N6REJ> I bet its confused by my drive speed?
[08:47] <N6REJ> its a dvd-rw
[08:47] <N6REJ> lightscribe drive
[08:48] <pc_> hello
[08:48] <vince_> hello
[08:48] <pc_> where are you?
[08:48] <vince_> in france
[08:48] <pc_> humm
[08:48] <nosrednaekim> in US
[08:48] <pc_> I am from Mozambique
[08:48] <vince_> we<are the world!!!
[08:49] <nosrednaekim> I don't think that would matter
[08:49] <pc_> Africa
[08:49] <vince_> yes doesn't matter
[08:49] <pc_> I am not very good at inglish
[08:49] <N6REJ> nosrednaekim: there has to be someplace that tells it how fast it can read/write
[08:49] <vince_> nice in mozambique?
[08:50] <pc_> ya
[08:50] <N6REJ> pc_: its ok, my french is terrible LOL
[08:50] <vince_> tu parle francais ?
[08:50] <pc_> hehe
[08:50] <N6REJ> pc_: !fr
[08:50] <vince_> ben c bon pour moi
[08:50] <pc_> hehe
[08:50] <N6REJ> !fr | pc_
[08:50] <nosrednaekim> N6REJ: whats taking a long time... ripping or encoding?
[08:50] <ubotu> pc_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:50] <raffytaffy> il est difficile d'apprendre Franais
[08:50] <N6REJ> nosrednaekim: ripping, lame is the encoder
[08:50] <vince_> is there a lot  of risk of virus on kubuntu?do i need an anti virus?
[08:51] <N6REJ> vince_: no *nix is mostly immune from virus's.  There are only 4 known last time I checked.
[08:51] <vince_> non c'est tres facile!!
[08:51] <N6REJ> vince_: if your concerned use clamav
[08:51] <pc_> I am using linux
[08:51] <N6REJ> pc_: *nix is short for linux
[08:52] <vince_> ok thanks N6RE
[08:52] <N6REJ> np
[08:52] <pc_> and I dont need ant-virus
[08:52] <soulrider> no
[08:52] <soulrider> the anti virus thata re for linux
[08:52] <sparrw> [how]  can i play mjpeg video in kubuntu?
[08:53] <soulrider> are used to protect windows machines :P
[08:53] <Tm_T> N6REJ: as far as I know clamav checks windows viruses
[08:53] <vince_> lol
[08:53] <soulrider> sparrw: clicking on it ? kaffeine can probably play it
[08:53] <ForgeAus> there is a klam-av :)
[08:53] <N6REJ> Tm_T: its in the repos
[08:53] <nosrednaekim> N6REJ: ok...I don't know.... is your cd slow doing other things?
[08:53] <pc_> soulrider where u from
[08:53] <sparrw> soulrider: it cant
[08:54] <soulrider> pc_: why ? :P
[08:54] <ForgeAus> actually *nix is NOT immune to viruses
[08:54] <vince_> where are u in mozambique?
[08:54] <N6REJ> haven't tried...
[08:54] <ForgeAus> and Linux does not = *nix, it just one of the os's that can be referred to by *nix...
[08:54] <pc_> I just want to know
[08:54] <Tm_T> N6REJ: sure it is
[08:54] <N6REJ> ForgeAus: I know thta
[08:54] <soulrider> Uruguay
[08:55] <soulrider> mz is mozambique ?
[08:55] <ForgeAus> it's just that viruses mostly don't affect *nix OS's (mostly due to having user and root accounts, etc)
[08:55] <pc_> ya
[08:56] <soulrider> would it be uniethiocal for someone to make a virus for windows to make people move to linux? you would be destroying windows, but mkaing them swicth to somethign better :P
[08:56] <ForgeAus> soulrider making a virus at all is unethical
[08:56] <genii> Yes, still unethical no matter the OS
[08:56] <Tm_T> soulrider: forcing is always bad
[08:56] <ForgeAus> whatever system it is built/made for...
[08:56] <vince_> of course
[08:56] <soulrider> i was just wondering what everyone thought :P
[08:57] <pc_> hehe
[08:57] <soulrider> its not like i wanna make one or anything
[08:57] <vince_> lol
[08:57] <soulrider> dont take it the wrong way
[08:57] <bxnp> soulrider: what i dont understand what do you even care what os other people are using, just use your favorite os :)
[08:57] <ForgeAus> making some software or a notice that promotes linux may not be so unethical but if it acts like a virus or a spam message then its actually goign to harass rather than help anyway
[08:57] <soulrider> i have convinced some people to swicth
[08:57] <ForgeAus> bxnp soulrider doesn't have a choice
[08:58] <soulrider> or to at least try it
[08:58] <ForgeAus> when it comes to Visual C++ he's learning
[08:58] <scratch> anyone else having a problem with feisty kde styles and the last update?
[08:58] <soulrider> ForgeAus: that damn IDE were using sucks! it wont show any syntax mistaked or errors AT ALL
[08:59] <soulrider> even kate is better at highlighting stuff!
[08:59] <vince_> lot of people talk me about linux but to make the switch i wit thata good friend try it and says ok it's easy u can!!lol!!
[08:59] <vince_> wait sorry
[08:59] <ForgeAus> soulrider, thats interesting!.. it doesn't show mistakes? what have tehy done to visual studio? it used to syntax highlight and show errors...
[08:59] <ForgeAus> last time I used it it did anyhow
[08:59] <soulrider> ForgeAus: it didnt show me anything at all
[08:59] <soulrider> like
[08:59] <soulrider> i made a simple program
[09:00] <soulrider> and just because a for had a , instead of a; somewhere in it
[09:00] <soulrider> it wouldnt compile
[09:00] <soulrider> but wouldnt tell me where the error was or anything
[09:00] <vince_> so bye every one nice job linux
[09:00] <ForgeAus> thats probably because a, is perfectly valid syntax...
[09:00] <soulrider> i already convinced 2 people to switch
[09:00] <ForgeAus> it didn't see it as an error...
[09:00] <soulrider> my dad said he wanted to try linux now
[09:01] <soulrider> one of my classmates is installing ubuntu on his parent's machine
[09:01] <soulrider> and i think hes also gonna use it
[09:01] <vince_> yes
[09:01] <soulrider> another classmate is gonna switch, he needs me to burnt he DVD
[09:01] <ForgeAus> at least I know a , is useable in C++
[09:01] <soulrider> and another one said he was downloading it
[09:01] <eilker> !feisty
[09:01] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[09:01] <soulrider> ForgeAus: like "for (int i = 0; i < 10; i++) ?
[09:01] <ForgeAus> as to its placement, depends on how smart the Compiler/IDE is to figure out that stuff....
[09:02] <soulrider> i added a , instead of a ; and it went berserk
[09:02] <soulrider> i cant wait til feisty is out!
[09:03] <ForgeAus> of course the syntax for the for statement uses the ;'s inside the ()'s but the question is are commas valid?... ie does it mean anyghing to say for (i = 0 , 4 ... )????
[09:03] <ForgeAus> possibly Visual studio isn't set to pick that up as an error...
[09:03] <soulrider> ForgeAus: i was looking for that damn error for like 10 minutes
[09:03] <soulrider> in a 20 line code :P
[09:04] <eilker> !ntfs-3g > eilker
[09:04] <soulrider> ForgeAus: isnt that what its supposed to do? :P
[09:04] <ForgeAus> well I know the syntax of the for statement it would have stuck out like a sore thumb for me...
[09:04] <nosrednaekim> you should use python(auto error checking...);)
[09:04] <nosrednaekim> not to start a flame fest or anything..
[09:04] <ForgeAus> soulrider, perhaps, assuming the , is completely INVALID syntax... I'm not entirely certain its compeltely invalid...
[09:04] <soulrider> i miss Eclipse for java development
[09:04] <ForgeAus> hehe eclipse is kewl :)
[09:04] <soulrider> i would program more, but no one makes apps for linux in java :P
[09:04] <soulrider> its os easy to program in java!
[09:05] <ForgeAus> you can even plug an open office plugin into it
[09:05] <nosrednaekim> thats becuase java is a pain in Linux...
[09:05] <nosrednaekim> at present
[09:05] <PurdueBioBoy> hi all
[09:05] <nosrednaekim> 'lo
[09:05] <soulrider> nosrednaekim: i never had a problem with it
[09:05] <ForgeAus> in linux? eclipse works for linux, mac and Windows
[09:05] <ForgeAus> is there a netbeans for linux?
[09:05] <stra> hi - s.a.
[09:05] <soulrider> java has been wonderful with me :P
[09:05] <soulrider> ForgeAus: i think so
[09:06] <soulrider> netbeans is o much better for making GUI java apps
[09:06] <ForgeAus> I'd have to say I'm no java fan
[09:06] <PurdueBioBoy> I need to put SCSI drivers on a floppy, but edgy eft won't recognize either floppy drive I put in my machine.  the BIOS sees them just fine though.  Any ideas?
[09:06] <ForgeAus> I also prefer python (and/or Pascal)
[09:06] <soulrider> i learned to program with it
[09:06] <ForgeAus> and am looing into Haskel
[09:06] <soulrider> well, im still learning
[09:06] <ForgeAus> grr looking
[09:06] <nosrednaekim> Python is the perfect language for Linux....
[09:06] <n8k99> there is a netbeans for linux
[09:07] <soulrider> n8k99: there probably i
[09:07] <soulrider> s
[09:07] <soulrider> i think i should learn py
[09:07] <nosrednaekim> I like to compare python with Virtual basic
[09:07] <ForgeAus> its good for kubuntu because a large enough chunk of KDE is written in it!
[09:07] <nosrednaekim> yeah...
[09:07] <soulrider> n8k99: tried eclipse ?
[09:07] <ForgeAus> virtual basic?
[09:07] <nosrednaekim> Like I made a mod for guidance-power-manager to show watts...
[09:07] <n8k99> soulrider: no, first day of class is today
[09:08] <nosrednaekim> yeah..python is like the virtual basic of Linux...
[09:08] <ForgeAus> don't you mean visual basic?
[09:08] <soulrider> i think im gonna graba zureus and make it report fake stats :P
[09:08] <ForgeAus> besides theres python for windows as well
[09:08] <soulrider> n8k99: awesome! i would use Eclipse
[09:08] <nosrednaekim> yeah... that.,.,.:-P
[09:08] <nosrednaekim> yeah...
[09:08] <soulrider> i ehard its better than netbeans
[09:08] <ForgeAus> (and visual basic with .NET hsa taken a whole different course)
[09:08] <soulrider> i heard visual basic was utter crap
[09:08] <n8k99> soulrider: i'll look into that as well
[09:08] <nosrednaekim> soulrider: eclipse is in the repos...
[09:09] <nosrednaekim> !eclipse
[09:09] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB
[09:09] <ForgeAus> soulrider, depends on your viewpoint, it both is, and isn't
[09:09] <firecrotch> soulrider:  It is :P
[09:09] <soulrider> nosrednaekim: i know, i use it
[09:09] <nosrednaekim> oh...ok
[09:09] <soulrider> i thinkt he repo version is broken or somehting
[09:09] <nosrednaekim> works for me(I don'tlike it though)
[09:09] <soulrider> i should have programming books int he bathroom
[09:09] <soulrider> its the only place i cna be quiet
[09:10] <sparrw> Is the WD MyBook 320GB Premium Edition external hard drive compatible with linux?  I have seen reviews of similar models that are, but nothing specific to this model, and I cannot get it to work in linux.  My windows box had to install drivers and reboot to see it, which seems very fishy.
[09:10] <ForgeAus> again I prefer Pascal (or in .NET's case Delphi or Chrome - which are Pascal derivatives) better
[09:10] <firecrotch> soulrider: Haha, I have my VB.NET book in the bathroom, just in case I run out of TP
[09:10] <soulrider> sparrw: is it USB ?
[09:10] <sparrw> soulrider: and firewire
[09:10] <soulrider> LOL firecrotch
[09:10] <ForgeAus> lol firecrotch :)
[09:10] <nosrednaekim> haha firecrotch
[09:11] <soulrider_> im gonna take my Programming Challenges book tot he bathroom, theres a few chapters i need to read :P
[09:11] <ForgeAus> still I havn't seen a linux IDE that beats the ease of use in Winforms in Visual Studio
[09:11] <nosrednaekim> Winforms?
[09:11] <raffytaffy> improvised explosive device?
[09:11] <sparrw> ForgeAus: and you wont, until someone starts charging $400 for it
[09:11] <ForgeAus> yeah system.windows.forms in .net
[09:12] <firecrotch> I must admit, Visual Studio is pretty nice
[09:12] <ForgeAus> sparrw, possibly but thats sad :(
[09:12] <teepark> I'm having a problem with the multiverse repository... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12200/
[09:12] <sparrw> visual studio and ms access are two of the big draws to windows, as a programmer
[09:12] <ForgeAus> access?? are you serious?
[09:12] <firecrotch> sparrw: acces?!
[09:12] <ForgeAus> if tahts the case use kexi (at least I thnk thats what its called)
[09:13] <sparrw> firecrotch: yes.  theres nothing like it in linux when you need a simple db with a simple UI fast
[09:13] <nosrednaekim> access? I've heard...bad...things...
[09:13] <ForgeAus> me 2 nos
[09:13] <sparrw> nosrednaekim: very very bad.  the actual DB end of it sucks hard
[09:13] <ForgeAus> access isn't good
[09:13] <Xbehave> is there any ppis there an easy way to add tags to mp3s in bulk if its a CD
[09:13] <sparrw> nosrednaekim: but the front end is so easy
[09:13] <Xbehave> *is there an easy way to add tags to mp3s in bulk if its a CD
[09:13] <firecrotch> sparrw: MySQL + phpmyadmin
[09:13] <nosrednaekim> yeah.... such is the way MS is... all frontend
[09:13] <sparrw> firecrotch: phpmyadmin cant do enough
[09:14] <nosrednaekim> Xbehave: is its already ON the CD?
[09:14] <sparrw> firecrotch: nor can it do what it can do fast enough
[09:14] <nosrednaekim> or if you are trying to rip?
[09:14] <firecrotch> sparrw: like what?
[09:14] <Xbehave> nah i ripped a CD without an internet connection
[09:14] <ForgeAus> koffices database compoenet (is it called kexi?) does .mdb's
[09:14] <firecrotch> Or what about OOo DB?
[09:14] <nosrednaekim> Xbehave: oh I see... so it souldn't connect to the CDDB?
[09:14] <sparrw> firecrotch: like various 'view' configurations.  normal users arent going to wade through the query builder when they just want to see every customer named Smith
[09:14] <raffytaffy> webmin + mysql:X
[09:16] <frojnd> is there any amule similar thing that can be run in terminal?
[09:16] <frojnd> non gui so I can start it with monitor
[09:16] <firecrotch> sparrw:  For simple stuff like that, what about just using mysql from the command line?
[09:16] <ForgeAus> whatever happened to pl/sql?
[09:17] <jetsaredim> is there a way to tell knetworkmanager and/or ubtuntu as a whole to use dhcpcd instead of dhclient?
[09:17] <kipseron_> kipseron
[09:17] <NightBird> how would I make a .tar.bz2 file?
[09:17] <jetsaredim> NightBird: tar -cjf
[09:18] <adaptr> NightBird: tar cjf <filename> -C /dir/to/tar
[09:18] <firecrotch> quick question:  How can I allow some programs (knetworkmanager for example) to run with root privileges without having to type in my password?
[09:18] <adaptr> firecrotch: make exceptions in sudoers
[09:18] <carlos_> hi
[09:18] <nosrednaekim> hi
[09:18] <genii> yes, man sudoers
[09:18] <carlos_> I just updated kubuntu feisty and lost most of the kde styles!!
[09:18] <genii> (for syntax)
[09:18] <adaptr> CarinArr: b was already taken :)
[09:19] <nosrednaekim> carlos: oh....
[09:19] <Bonaldo2000> My ubuntu just freezed in the desktop and I could not do anything. This hasnt happens before. What might be the cause? Is it "what happens" or could it be serious?
[09:19] <Bonaldo2000> sorry....Kubuntu
[09:19] <nosrednaekim> did strl + alt Bkspce do anything?
[09:19] <adaptr> Bonaldo2000: first determine if it's Xorg that is frozen, or the entire system
[09:19] <nosrednaekim> *ctrl+alt+bkspce
[09:20] <Bonaldo2000> adaptr: I have rebooted, how can I check it? I was not able to switch to one of the other desktops...
[09:20] <adaptr> Bonaldo2000: you should have tried either restarting X, or going to a console
[09:20] <adaptr> *could have, nobody's forcing you
[09:21] <adaptr> whatever, it would have started with ctrl-alt
[09:21] <Bonaldo2000> adaptr: I did try to go to console....the keyboard did not respond...
[09:21] <Bonaldo2000> I couldnt do anything
[09:21] <adaptr> Bonaldo2000: then it may have been a kernel panic - check your logs
[09:21] <adaptr> messages, syslog, dmesg - whatever yields information
[09:21] <Bonaldo2000> adaptr: hm...ok which logs specifically?
[09:21] <Bonaldo2000> ok...
[09:21] <adaptr> way ahead of you
[09:22] <Bonaldo2000> hehe
[09:22] <Bonaldo2000> adaptr: since edgy is not VERY stable, can this happen? Or might it be caused by hardware failure?
[09:22] <adaptr> reading logs is an art all of its own, one that will be valuable the rest of your computer using days
[09:22] <adaptr> Bonaldo2000: not very stable ? how so ?
[09:23] <adaptr> Bonaldo2000: careful reviewing of logs will show you whether it's hard or soft
[09:23] <Bonaldo2000> adaptr: I mean it is "edgy", not very stable software all around, new versions and such
[09:23] <adaptr> if it's reproducible in any way, it's probably hardware-related, but not necessarily hardware
[09:23] <adaptr> Bonaldo2000: again I ask: what do you mean ?
[09:24] <Bonaldo2000> adaptr: I will take a look at the logs then. Thanks.
[09:24] <adaptr> Bonaldo2000: edgy is just a name
[09:24] <adaptr> sjeesh, some people read shit into everything
[09:24] <Bonaldo2000> adaptr: Hm, I may be wrong but I was under the impression that edgy was not meant to be a very stable release...like dapper f.ex.
[09:25] <Bonaldo2000> adaptr: not that it is UNstable...
[09:25] <adaptr> Bonaldo2000: nonsense, if it wasn't stable, then why bother releasing it at all ?
[09:25] <adaptr> Bonaldo2000: www.ubuntu.com, look around what the different releases mean
[09:26] <Bonaldo2000> adaptr: maybe for people who likes newer versions og some of the programs...and not very thouroghly tested versions.
[09:26] <adaptr> Ubuntu 6.06 "Dapper Drake" was special in that it is an LTS release - *intended* to be Long-Term Supported
[09:26] <Bonaldo2000> adaptr: but as I say, it was only an idea I had...
[09:26] <adaptr> Bonaldo2000: crap the maybe's, okay ? perhaps you'd better read before you fantasize :)
[09:26] <frojnd> how can I get size of file with cache? apt-cache search ?
[09:27] <WorldBFree> where can i find the files vmlinuz and initrd.gz on the kubuntu iso.  i want to boot the iso from an hd
[09:27] <frojnd> how can I get size of the package, with cache? apt-cache search ?
[09:28] <adaptr> man apt-cache ? you could always feed it into dpkg...
[09:28] <Bonaldo2000> adaptr: It was not a very serious point, just something I think I read somewhere. Well, I will check logs...so better get back to Kubuntu...
[09:28] <adaptr> if the package is already installed, it's easy - if not, fake an install, and it'll tell you
[09:29] <adaptr> hrm.. bye
[09:29] <savor> frojnd: apt-cache show packageName
[09:30] <WorldBFree> where can i find the files vmlinuz and initrd.gz on the kubuntu iso. i want to boot the iso from an hd.  i cannot seem to find them exploring the iso
[09:30] <sympa> hi people !
[09:31] <firecrotch> sympa: hi!
[09:31] <Bonaldo2000> adaptr: specifically what log do you think I might take a look at?
[09:31] <adaptr> all of the ones I mentioned
[09:31] <sympa> You need to see that picture, it's my neibour's new uh .. I have no idea how you name that thing in english but it goes behind a bycyle, : http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=zezellekubuntucharrettegw8.jpg
[09:32] <sympa> it's awsome
[09:32] <sympa> He's a fan huhu
[09:32] <NightBird> how do I tell adept updater to not alert me about a certain package being available for update?
[09:32] <Bonaldo2000> adaptr: sorry, man, could you post them again? :-) I was just in windows but am now back in Kubuntu...
[09:33] <tinin> Hello, anyone here using kubuntu Feysty beta ??
[09:33] <tinin> feisty
[09:33] <Skrot> I just installed it
[09:33] <NightBird> I am
[09:33] <tinin> so ave you got any problems?
[09:33] <tinin> have
[09:34] <NightBird> tinin: well... flgrx was a pain to get working again, for awhile I had a quantum network interface(it was simultaniously configured and not configured)...
[09:34] <tinin> I just can't run any gtk application
[09:34] <tinin> can you?
[09:34] <NightBird> also I lost most of the widget styles
[09:35] <NightBird> dunno, haven't tried
[09:35] <tinin> so can you use firefox?
[09:35] <NightBird> yes
[09:35] <tinin> wow
[09:35] <tinin> i get a weird error
[09:36] <tinin> error while loading shared libraries /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 invalid ELF header
[09:36] <tinin> how can uninstall this and reinstall it?
[09:37] <fdoving> tinin: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgtk2.0-0
[09:37] <jhutchins> NightBird: Look at the bottom of this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto for a link about "pinning".
[09:37] <adaptr> Bonaldo2000: there are a finite number of logs on your system
[09:37] <NightBird> thank you jhutchins
[09:37] <tinin> thanx
[09:37] <tinin> trying
[09:38] <jhutchins> NightBird: I haven't actually applied it myself, but you "
[09:38] <jhutchins> pin" an application at a certain release.
[09:38] <tinin> hey, now it runs
[09:38] <tinin> thanx a lot!!
[09:38] <Bonaldo2000> adaptr: I cant really seem to make anything of it. What am I looking for? Also, since I have restarted isnt it the new logs I am looking at?
[09:38] <smart_> !fix adept
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix adept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <NightBird> jhutchins: I installed it manually... will that affect how I would do it then?
[09:38] <smart_> !fix-adept
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix-adept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <LjL> !adept fix
[09:39] <smart_> !fix
[09:39] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <adaptr> Bonaldo2000: you're obviously looking at anomalies around te time of the crash
[09:39] <LjL> !fix adept is <alias> adept crash fix
[09:39] <ubotu> I'll remember that, LjL
[09:39] <jhutchins> NightBird: Don't think so.
[09:39] <LjL> !botabuse
[09:39] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:44] <riuken> hello... how can i see other channels
[09:44] <riuken> ?
[09:44] <riuken> corazon
[09:45] <teepark> ruiken: are you in Konversation?
[09:45] <Bonaldo2000> adaptr: I have a LOT of these: [17211459.696000]  hdb: cdrom_pc_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01) . Appears my both my CD-ROM drives are very confused. Do you know what might cause this?
[09:45] <riuken> no...
[09:45] <riuken> i guees
[09:46] <adaptr> Bonaldo2000: could be any number of things.. the fact that both exhibit this could mean the IDE channel is b0rked, or the kernel did not assign sane IRQ/IO/MEM ranges, or you have bad disks in BOTH drives...
[09:46] <adaptr> riuken: /list
[09:46] <adaptr> or something... I don't do console :)
[09:46] <riuken> thanks
[09:47] <NightBird> well... that wasn't really the best option... but it will do for now...
[09:47] <sparrw> firecrotch: people who dont know the meaning of "double click" have to be able to use the db frontend.  hence, access
[09:47] <Bonaldo2000> adaptr: yeah, or a bad cable maybe...
[09:47] <teepark> riuken: <Ctrl>+J, then type in the channel name you want, starting with a '#' (now you are in #kubuntu)
[09:48] <NightBird> I at least have 3d acceleration working
[09:48] <Bonaldo2000> adaptr: but it shouldnt really make the entire machine crash...
[09:48] <genii> I remember evry time I told my frient to left-click he would switch hands but hit the same button
[09:48] <adaptr> Bonaldo2000: so that's not it, you say
[09:52] <riuken> there is a way to look for an user? in all channels?
[09:52] <adaptr> riuken: since the users are logged into the server, there should be
[09:53] <teepark> riuken: "/query userName" will start a private message session with user 'userName'
[09:54] <teepark> I don't know about searching for what channel they are in
[09:54] <frojnd> hello! how can I get info about size of the installed package (before I do sudo apt-get install package) ??
[09:54] <teepark> "sudo aptitude show package"
[09:56] <teepark> does anybody know what I should do about this multiverse repo problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12212/ (lines 78-83)
[09:56] <jhutchins> riuken: Yes.
[09:57] <jhutchins> /whois <username>; in the server/status window if you have one.
[09:58] <smart_> teepark, i got this also befor
[09:58] <teepark> smart_: I've been getting it all day - did you get it fixed?
[09:58] <jhutchins> teepark: comment out the sos line and let Hawkwind know.
[09:59] <smart_> teepark, but i did some things wrong on my kubuntu and i install it agian from the begining and i dont have the problem know i dont know maybe the clean installtion fix it ...or you can do you list with easysource
[09:59] <smart_> !easysource
[09:59] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:59] <riuken> i dopnt have one how i can get the server/status...
[10:00] <smart_> teepark, maybe its with the source list try to make a new one with the site
[10:00] <jhutchins> riuken: just do it in the channel window then.
[10:00] <BluesKaj> teepark , that sources list has the wrong pkg names, the sources names should begin with deb
[10:00] <teepark> it's the exact one from ubuntuguide.org
[10:00] <jhutchins> smart_, teepark; Guys, comment out the repo for now and let hawkwind know there's a problem with it.
[10:01] <teepark> http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com?
[10:01] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: No.
[10:01] <BluesKaj> doesn't look like sources dpkg list to me , jhutchins
[10:01] <jhutchins> teepark: Sorry, that's not hawkwind, it's the previous one that has the problem.
[10:02] <smart_> BluesKaj, i dont think bec i generate the lst many times and its the same problem
[10:02] <jhutchins> teepark: Hang on a bit, let me see what I can do.
[10:03] <BluesKaj> oops sorry ... my noob knowledge showing thru
[10:03] <firecrotch> ewww... 86 upgradable packages
[10:03] <jhutchins> teepark: Sorry, too many things going on.
[10:04] <jhutchins> teepark: Yes, it's http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse that has the problem.
[10:06] <teepark> If I download the Packages.gz directly from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/multiverse/binary-i386/ is there any way I can use it in the update?
[10:06] <teepark> that file seems to be fine
[10:07] <BluesKaj> there alternate medibuntu repos :
[10:07] <BluesKaj> deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free
[10:07] <BluesKaj> deb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ edgy free non-free
[10:07] <jhutchins> teepark: Yeah, I was going to say, I think they fixed it.
[10:07] <jhutchins> teepark: It was probably in the middle of an update or something when you tried to grab it.
[10:07] <teepark> no, it's been happening consistently, it just happened again
[10:07] <Zhanev> i just downloaded (apt-get) beryl on feisty, anyone knows how to activate the emerald themes? my windows have to titlebar!
[10:08] <Zhanev> (beryl works ok btw)
[10:08] <jhutchins> teepark: Same repo?
[10:09] <Tod> Hey people, I have a pretty embarasing problem. How do I change screen res. in KDE?? I installed kde-core just now and the screen res is to hight :/
[10:09] <teepark> my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12218/
[10:09] <jhutchins> teepark: try sudo apt-get update, see if that does any better.
[10:10] <teepark> same problem
[10:10] <jhutchins> Hmmm.
[10:11] <genii> Tod ctrl -    and ctrl +
[10:12] <Tod> genii, nothing happens :S
[10:12] <Mena> The Stable Will Be out on 1 APRIL or a day on april
[10:12] <genii> Tod then likely only 1 resolution is given in your xorg.conf file
[10:12] <genii> (1 valid one anyhow)
[10:13] <raffytaffy> sudo  nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:13] <Tod> genii, I can change screen res. in Gnome and XFCE without problem, so that cant be it :/
[10:13] <raffytaffy> add proper resolution
[10:13] <raffytaffy> save / restart x
[10:14] <jhutchins> Tod: Could be a keyboard thing, there's a screen resize tool (krandrtray).
[10:14] <jhutchins> raffytaffy: Read what he said.
[10:14] <raffytaffy> just did...as soon as i finishes my last line ehh
[10:14] <Tod> jhutchins, I'll see if I can find that!!
[10:15] <jhutchins> Tod: System tray applet, may already be installed.
[10:15] <genii> Mena I find it amusing that all the x.04 releases will ostensibly be on April Fool's Day
[10:15] <Mena> hehehe ok
[10:16] <Tod> It was installed! Thanks that worked great! :D
[10:16] <Tod> brb
[10:16] <Mena> !krandrtray
[10:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krandrtray - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:17] <jhutchins> !info krandrtray
[10:17] <ubotu> Package krandrtray does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[10:18] <Mena> this the first time i hear about this tool it looks Good if it will make changing the screen res easy and adding more screens
[10:18] <jhutchins> !find krandrtray
[10:18] <ubotu> File krandrtray found in kcontrol, kde4base, kdebase-dbg
[10:18] <Mena> hmmm ok
[10:18] <wilman> does anyone know what my oss wave out device is? like /dev/....
[10:19] <wilman> how can i find this ?
[10:19] <adaptr>  /dev/snd/dsp
[10:19] <adaptr> or /dev/dsp, even
[10:19] <adaptr> !oss
[10:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:19] <adaptr> he's stoopid
[10:19] <wilman> ok
[10:19] <wilman> thx man
[10:20] <wilman> ooh and another thing
[10:20] <jhutchins> oss is what we used to use before alsa.
[10:20] <jhutchins> Open Source Sound.
[10:20] <wilman> ok
[10:21] <jhutchins> teepark: Maybe it's cached a corrupted .gz file?
[10:21] <wilman> what is the command to see the inside of a directory?
[10:21] <dejan> hello! I'm new user of linux ubuntu and I can't install VLC player! Can someone guide me step by step through plS!!!
[10:21] <crdlb> wilman, ls /directory
[10:21] <jhutchins> teepark: See if you can find a Packages.gz?
[10:22] <jhutchins> dejan: sudo apt-get install vlc?
[10:22] <wilman> ok
[10:22] <teepark> I just ran the source-o-matic and generated a sources.list which includes multiverse, and aptitude update worked
[10:22] <jhutchins> wilman:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html
[10:22] <teepark> I can switch back if you want to keep debugging the problem
[10:22] <teepark> but first I have to install some packages
[10:22] <jhutchins> teepark: No need.
[10:23] <Mena> it worked
[10:23] <Mena> why didnt with me !
[10:23] <jhutchins> Guess it is a source list problem.  Possibly a file got moved.
[10:23] <Mena> maybe
[10:23] <teepark> the file looked the same - one thing I notice is different in the new one is there is a us. prepended to the URL
[10:24] <dejan> I downloaded vlc_0.8.6a-jb-videolan-1.tar.gz from ftp://ftp.videolan.org/pub/videolan/ubuntu/sources, and what then?
[10:24] <jhutchins> !build | dejan
[10:24] <ubotu> dejan: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:25] <jhutchins> dejan: 0.8.6 is available in universe.  Installing from tarballs breaks the dependency system.
[10:25] <jhutchins> dejan: If you really, really want the tarball you should build a .deb and install that.
[10:27] <dejan> :) that is nice but how... to do all that!
[10:27] <dejan> i just whant to play mp3 for bigining
[10:27] <jhutchins> dejan: How about sudo apt-get install vlc?
[10:27] <jhutchins> !mpe | dejan
[10:27] <jhutchins> !mp3 | dejan
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <jhutchins> 'scuse.
[10:27] <ubotu> dejan: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:28] <wilman> there is no dev/snd/dsp
[10:28] <wilman> controlC0  controlC2  midiC1D0  pcmC0D0p  pcmC0D1p  pcmC0D2p  pcmC0D3p  seq
[10:28] <wilman> controlC1  midiC0D0   pcmC0D0c  pcmC0D1c  pcmC0D2c  pcmC0D3c  pcmC2D0c  timer
[10:28] <dejan> is there any program for converting mp3 in ogg?
[10:28] <jhutchins> wilman: Then the kernel module for your sound card is not loaded, and you probably need to review your alsa installation and configuration.
[10:28] <wilman> hahaah lol
[10:28] <wilman> noo my sound works
[10:28] <jhutchins> wilman: With no digital signal processor?
[10:29] <bobbyd> dejan: that's genrally a bad idea as you'll get nasty compression artifacts. but you could just use mplayer to dump all the files to .wav and then compress with oggenc
[10:29] <wilman> i don't know about that
[10:29] <wilman> but there is no dsp in the map snd
[10:29] <jhutchins> wilman: Sorry, it's /dev/dsp.
[10:29] <bobbyd> dejan: you could compress to .flac, the compression ratio is much worse, but you'd preserve the original data
[10:30] <bobbyd> dejan: I think in mplayer it's "mplayer -ao pcm:file=output.wav yourfile.mp3"
[10:34] <riuken> can anybody help me with tha make_fw command its says that cant find such command...
[10:42] <nick_> hey....how can i set kubuntu to display my desktop wallpapers as my screensaver (i dont know where kubuntu saves the wallpaper)
[10:42] <N6REJ> lost even
[10:43] <N6REJ> ok, first problem I need to tackle... kaudiocreator goes HORRIBLY slow when ripping.
[10:43] <nick_> ^tell me about it
[10:44] <nick_> it goes fast on most machines but mine (and apperently yours lol)
[10:44] <N6REJ> I have a relatively fast machine so I don't get it.
[10:45] <olie> can anyone help me
[10:45] <nick_> It must be a hardware issue, my machine is amd 1.8ghz w/1g ram and its REALLY slow
[10:45] <Tm_T> olie: no, unless you tell what's the problem
[10:45] <N6REJ> nick_: in the desktop are.. there's a tap
[10:46] <nick_> tap...?
[10:46] <N6REJ> nick_: mines a bit faster but same way.
[10:46] <olie> i need help in getting xwine
[10:46] <N6REJ> tab
[10:46] <nick_> oh
[10:46] <nick_> ok
[10:46] <N6REJ> nick_: in display settings
[10:46] <Tm_T> !wine | olie
[10:46] <ubotu> olie: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:46] <nick_> display settings or configure desktop?
[10:46] <N6REJ> nick_: hmmm could be either way
[10:46] <juanfe> hello all
[10:47] <Tm_T> !hi
[10:47] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:48] <N6REJ> OH CRUD!
[10:48] <N6REJ> su is hosed
[10:48] <juanfe> anyone has a laptop that works well with special function keys with Ubuntu?
[10:48] <nick_> no tab
[10:49] <nick_> i clicked the "show media" tab but it keeps repeating the same image from my desktop
[10:49] <juanfe> mine don't work
[10:49] <N6REJ> nick system_settings>desktop>look on the left 2nd or 3rd button down says "screen saver" :D
[10:50] <juanfe> anyone has a toshiba laptop (satellite)
[10:50] <juanfe> ?
[10:50] <N6REJ> I'm 119 somebody, su has lost me as a doer!
[10:52] <N6REJ> !su
[10:52] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:52] <LegolasV> I'm having a strange problem, the polyester style doesn't work in some programs. I can select it in KControl, but not in the ubuntu system settings panel..
[10:53] <Camaxtli> N6REJ: Didn't you do sudo passwd directly after you installed it?
[10:53] <Camaxtli> LegolasV: Those programs might be GTK
[10:53] <Camaxtli> LegolasV: You can set their style in KControl's "GTK Theme Selector"
[10:53] <N6REJ> Camaxtli: I was working on sometihng a minute ago and I forget what it was I'm trying hard to remember ( darn mental illness ) and it asked my my su pw
[10:53] <LegolasV> Camaxtli: Konversation has it too
[10:54] <N6REJ> troy@Bear:~$ sudo passwd
[10:54] <N6REJ> sudo: unable to lookup Bear via gethostbyname()
[10:54] <N6REJ> :(
[10:54] <Camaxtli> LegolasV: Uhm, set everything to default options and then try again (I had a theme/style problem yesterday and after I did this it worked again)
[10:55] <Camaxtli> Also be sure to press Apply a few times, 'cause KControl has a habit of not registering it
[10:55] <Camaxtli> N6REJ: Nice, you overwrote sudo? :p
[10:55] <N6REJ> apparently
[10:56] <N6REJ> I think I moved me out of sudoers
[10:56] <riuken> can anybody help me with tha make_fw command its says that cant find such command...
[10:56] <Camaxtli> "<N6REJ> sudo: unable to lookup Bear via gethostbyname()" <- Sounds like a network error
[10:56] <Camaxtli> Not a group error
[10:56] <N6REJ> Camaxtli: thats the name of my box.
[10:56] <N6REJ> oh, ok, thats what I was working with was smb.
[10:56] <N6REJ> hang on
[10:57] <philfo> N6REJ: here's the best way to do the install:
[10:57] <riuken> can anybody help me with tha make_fw command its says that cant find such command...
[10:57] <N6REJ> Camaxtli: ok, I was usuing smb4k and told ti to use SU permissions when mount/umount and it asked me the su pw so I told it and now I'm stuck.
[10:58] <Camaxtli> N6REJ: If you want to have a root account, try this: Boot with liveCD, mount the root partition, chroot it, and then run sudo passwd to set a new root password
[10:58] <philfo> gimpshop:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239277
[10:58] <N6REJ> I can't undo cause kde comes back with su error
[10:58] <reagleBRKLN> anyone know if there's a partimage channel? i installed feisty beta to give it a go, not worried because i just imaged my edgy root partition, went to restore
[10:58] <reagleBRKLN> it and it failed!
[10:58] <reagleBRKLN> so how do i know a backup image really works?
[10:58] <N6REJ> philfo: hang on I got a minor 119 here, I lost sudo :(
[10:59] <LegolasV> Camaxtli: doesn't seem to work, maybe it's just something because of the beta?
[10:59] <N6REJ> how do I chroot it Camaxtli?
[10:59] <tmske> hi, does someone know why ctrl+a acts like ctrl+q in my kde programs, I use a azerty keyboard
[10:59] <N6REJ> Camaxtli: does it matter that root is on the second hd and not the first?
[10:59] <tmske> and I am using feisty
[10:59] <dejanpetrovic> is there anyone that have little time to explain me step by step how to install vlc player on private???
[11:00] <dejanpetrovic> i just install ubuntu and i don't know what to do whit all that commands
[11:00] <Mena> This channle will be for fiesty stable right ?
[11:00] <Mena> channel*
[11:00] <N6REJ> Mena: if its using the kde interface yes else ubuntu
[11:00] <N6REJ> or xubuntu or.....
[11:00] <Mena> ok
[11:00] <neil__> anyone know a good free binary usenet client for ubuntu?
[11:00] <Camaxtli> N6REJ: Not really, just as long as you chroot it and use the liveCD shell and sudo to give root a new password
[11:01] <N6REJ> Camaxtli: I don't know how to chroot
[11:01] <Camaxtli> N6REJ: Give me a sec and I'll get it from the Gentoo installation docs
[11:01] <N6REJ> k ty
[11:02] <LegolasV> tmske: systemsettings -> region -> keyboardlayout is it set up right?
[11:04] <Camaxtli> N6REJ: mount /dev/hda<root partition #> /mnt; chroot /mnt/ /bin/bash
[11:04] <Camaxtli> *correction:
[11:04] <Camaxtli> N6REJ: mount /dev/hda<root partition #> /mnt; chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[11:04] <LeeJunFan> how do you set the system default editor again? nano wordwrap really ticks me off :)
[11:04] <N6REJ> k ty
[11:04] <Hirs> hi
[11:04] <Camaxtli> N6REJ: After that -> sudo passwd
[11:04] <neil__> http://nzb.sourceforge.net/about/
[11:04] <N6REJ> k
[11:04] <tmske> LegolasV: I believe so, I've set dutch as my language and belgium be as keyboard layout
[11:04] <neil__> has anyone used this, or can anyone recommend something better?
[11:05] <Camaxtli> N6REJ: If it works you should after booting back into your install have access to the root account
[11:05] <Hirs> Is there a way to NetworkManager to connect before login?
[11:05] <N6REJ> k
[11:05] <Camaxtli> N6REJ: In that case you can add yourself to sudo again if that's the problem
[11:06] <N6REJ> the problem is that I'm no longer a member of /etc/sudoers
[11:07] <Camaxtli> N6REJ: If that's the problem, just set a root password via liveCD chroot, then reboot and login as root. You should be capable of adding yourself again
[11:07] <N6REJ> k
[11:07] <N6REJ> back in a bit
[11:08] <Camaxtli> N6REJ: And it should work because it's how I got root access back to my slackware box after my brother trashed it
[11:08] <kipseron> !kdesu
[11:08] <kipseron> somone can tell me how i do the command kdesu in ubuntu
[11:08] <kipseron> ?
[11:08] <kipseron> what the command in ubuntu
[11:08] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[11:08] <N6REJ> lol
[11:08] <N6REJ> whats the channel for the bot?
[11:09] <polly1> I think there is a gktsu or something.
[11:09] <LegolasV> tmske: belgium is always azerty isn't it? (I'm dutch) When belgium is above in the list of layouts and the variant is set up the way you need it it should work, for as far as I know (it works for me)
[11:09] <kipseron> !gktsu
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gktsu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <frojnd> huh
[11:09] <kipseron> !gksudo
[11:09] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application>
[11:09] <frojnd> I can't see my panel
[11:09] <frojnd> only K
[11:09] <Camaxtli> N6REJ: If you need help on the liveCD install irssi or something on it so I can talk you through it should it be necessary.
[11:09] <N6REJ> !bot
[11:09] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:10] <N6REJ> k
[11:10] <frojnd> I run kicker but it doesn't help
[11:10] <Mena> kill kicker at first
[11:10] <Mena> killall kicker
[11:10] <Mena> then run it myabe works
[11:10] <Mena> sudo killall kicker
[11:10] <LegolasV> isn't the K menu part of the kicker?
[11:11] <Camaxtli> K Menu is an applet usually located on kicker
[11:11] <Camaxtli> kicker is merely a panel you can configure.
[11:11] <LegolasV> my guess would be all other applets were removed, although it would be strange :P
[11:12] <Camaxtli> frojnd: Did you configure the kicker panel and gave unmarked the "stretch when needed" ?
[11:14] <kekos_> hi
[11:14] <kekos_> I have a problem with my wireless connection
[11:14] <kekos_> could somebody help me?
[11:15] <kekos_> hello??
[11:15] <MepisReign> hello kekos
[11:15] <BluesKaj> !wireless
[11:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:15] <LeeJunFan> kekos_: what kind of problem?
[11:16] <kekos_> I have installed the drivers for my asuswl-138g
[11:16] <kekos_> and it seems that the card is working
[11:17] <kekos_> but when i try to connect to my bt-hub
[11:17] <tmske> LegolasV: there is a bug report of it: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/72619, and other things like  and ^ don't work either, I can't get the letter underneed the icon
[11:17] <philfo> is there anywhere other than linuxprinting.org where I could find a driver for a printer?
[11:17] <kekos_> i just can scan for networks
[11:17] <MepisReign> can or can't?
[11:18] <kekos_> but it doesnt allow me swich to network
[11:18] <LeeJunFan> kekos_: does it find any?
[11:18] <kekos_> i can
[11:18] <kekos_> yes
[11:18] <kekos_> mine
[11:18] <kekos_> and 3 more
[11:18] <kekos_> but it says out of range
[11:18] <kekos_> but
[11:19] <kekos_> if i use wireless assistant
[11:19] <kekos_> it say that it has a good signal
[11:19] <kekos_> but neither i'm be able to connect
[11:20] <Iwonder|too> kekos_: iwconfig (interface) see if the info is corect
[11:20] <kekos_> how can i do that?
[11:20] <Iwonder|too> \in konsole
[11:21] <Mena> There is an app in adept search for kdockstuffs or something like that as i guess
[11:22] <kekos_> it says this: wlan0     IEEE 802.11b  ESSID:off/any
[11:22] <kekos_>           Mode:Managed  Channel:0  Access Point: Not-Associated
[11:22] <kekos_>           Bit Rate:54 Mb/s   Sensitivity=-200 dBm
[11:22] <kekos_>           RTS thr:2346 B   Fragment thr:2346 B
[11:22] <kekos_>           Power Management:off
[11:22] <kekos_>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[11:22] <kekos_>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[11:22] <kekos_>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[11:23] <LeeJunFan> !pastebin | kekos_
[11:23] <ubotu> kekos_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:23] <Iwonder|too> it didn't6 connect to the network
[11:23] <kekos_> ok
[11:23] <kekos_> sorry
[11:23] <LegolasV> tmske: those work here: . Your problem is exactly the same as the reported bug? (I'm not sure if there's a solution known)
[11:24] <bobesponja> when I click on a link in konqueror it goes on top of the window first and then change page, does it happen to you to?
[11:24] <kekos_> i'm not connected
[11:24] <Iwonder|too> i dunno why i had the same problem with wireless assistant,had to start it as sudo to make it switch
[11:24] <bobesponja> top of the page I meant
[11:24] <kekos_> but the network card is working, dont it?
[11:24] <LeeJunFan> kekos_: if you don't have any encryption on your network at the moment you can try connecting by hand by issuing iwconfig wlan0 essid [your network name]
[11:24] <Iwonder|too> looks like it type ifconfig wlan0
[11:25] <kekos_> I have encription
[11:25] <tmske> LegolasV: the bug only reports the behaviour in kate, but I have it in every kde-app, so no ctrl+a or ctrl+z for me, and I don't think there is a solution known
[11:26] <Iwonder|too> i can tell you how to make it work in shell,but not in kwifimanager
[11:27] <kekos_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12239/
[11:27] <Iwonder|too> if ifconfig shows wlan0 has an ip and route -n shows a gateway then sudo iwconfig wlan0 key yourkey
[11:27] <Camaxtli> Don't use kwifimanager, Network-Manager is easier to use.
[11:27] <Axel> alguien sabe como puedo instalar un programa en kubuntu?
[11:27] <Iwonder|too> well iwconfig wlan0 essid yournetwork key yourkey
[11:28] <neil__> Don't suppose anyone here is familiar with SABnzbd here?
[11:28] <neil__> I need to know how to check my python version...
[11:28] <kekos_> sorry?
[11:28] <LeeJunFan> I think I'm going to write a python script for ubuntu users to run a shell command and pipe it to the python script and submit it automatically to pastebin and return a link. that'd be handy.
[11:29] <neil__> hmm
[11:29] <neil__> python reports that it is v2.4.4
[11:29] <neil__> but I can see python folders that are 2.5
[11:29] <neil__> why wouldnt it run 2.5 by default?
[11:29] <Iwonder|too> kekos  do you have wireless assistant?
[11:29] <LeeJunFan> neil__: dpkg -l | grep python
 can you tell me if i can use another network manager or what i have to do?
[11:30] <LeeJunFan> neil__: feisty has 2.5 as default
[11:30] <archangel_> Do i have to reinstall to upgrade OS versions?
[11:30] <neil__> hmm yeah, only 2.4.4 is installed, my bad
[11:30] <kekos_> i'm using kwifi manager
[11:30] <alphi_> has anyone here installed Comedi on a Kubuntu system ?
[11:30] <neil__> am I better leaving 2.4.4 and waiting for feisty?
[11:30] <LeeJunFan> !upgrade | archangel_
[11:30] <ubotu> archangel_: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[11:30] <Iwonder|too> get wireless assistant
[11:30] <neil__> Wonder if anything relies on it being 2.4.4
[11:31] <Iwonder|too> it works better with the hhcp client
[11:31] <LegolasV> tmske: I'm not sure, the problem for me is that all site I can find about azert and KDE are french. And I'm not good at french =/
[11:31] <Axel>   I need to install a program in kubuntu somebody knows?
[11:31] <archangel_> problem is adept doesnt work anymore
[11:31] <LeeJunFan> neil__: probably not - I think both can exist peacfully on the system at the same time.
[11:31] <kekos_> i have wireless assistant as well, and it says that the signal is ok but i cannot connect
[11:31] <Mena> !ask |Axel
[11:31] <kekos_> when i run wireless assistant
[11:31] <ubotu> Axel: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)