[11:20] <aru> antonymous: that link was for you
[11:21] <user12> where is gnome-control-panel
[11:21] <antonymous> oops, forgot to say thanks...I was too busy reading it...thank you!
[11:21] <aru> antonymous: my nick completion gave someone elses nick :)
[11:22] <sorush20> anyone here using ndiswrapper
[11:22] <SynapseR> what dialup program is there in ubuntu ?
[11:23] <HappyFool> SynapseR: the network adminstration tool should let you setup dial-up
[11:23] <aru> !fstab
[11:23] <ubotu> aru: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:23] <HappyFool> SynapseR: System -> Admin -> Networking
[11:24] <HappyFool> SynapseR: if you care, i think the guts are driven by pppd/wvdial; you can also setup a dial-up config on the command line with pppconfig
[11:24] <SynapseR> modem (ppp0) is not configured
[11:24] <SynapseR> when I rightclick configure,
[11:24] <SynapseR> OK is greyed out no matter what i enter
[11:24] <nonedead> how do i run .sh files
[11:25] <SynapseR> also /dev/rfcomm0 is not listed under modem ports
[11:25] <AMCDeathKnight> hi
[11:25] <DekaPink> Pah... Damn my apparently not supported video card... Or something. :3
[11:25] <HappyFool> SynapseR: click on the modem, then click on properties. hmm -- are you running ubuntu 4.10 or 5.04?
[11:25] <nonedead> ow do i run the .sh files
[11:25] <SynapseR> my cellphone is paired to the notebook
[11:25] <SynapseR> 5.04
[11:25] <SynapseR> via bluetooth
[11:26] <nonedead> can some one help me
[11:26] <HappyFool> SynapseR: hmm. sorry, i don't know much about getting that side of bluetooth working
[11:26] <DekaPink> I'm guessing that when I do fglrxinfo, it should tell me like... ATI... instead of what it does... which is mesa3d. :3
[11:26] <HappyFool> nonedead: try 'chmod a+x <thefilewhichendsin.sh>' and then './<thefilewhichendsin.sh>'
[11:26] <nonedead> hey can some one help me
[11:27] <nonedead> what
[11:27] <SynapseR> Happy, but even if i choose my normal modem , th OK button is still greyed out
[11:27] <nonedead> what does that mean
[11:27] <HappyFool> DekaPink: 'glxinfo|grep direct' says this on my machine:           direct rendering: Yes
[11:27] <nonedead> im new to linux
[11:28] <HappyFool> SynapseR: where is this?
[11:28] <nonedead> happy fool: im new to linux
[11:28] <HappyFool> nonedead: right click on the file and choose 'Properties'
[11:29] <HappyFool> nonedead: then click on the 'Permissions' tab
[11:29] <SynapseR> under network settings -> modem connection (right click -> configure)
[11:29] <nonedead> ok
[11:29] <nonedead> ok
[11:29] <HappyFool> nonedead: opposite 'Owner', tick the 'Execute' box, then click 'Close'  (execute must be ticked)
[11:29] <HappyFool> nonedead: then double click the file
[11:29] <DekaPink> HappyFool: It's telling me no.
[11:30] <phixion> happyfool, can you help me? I am having problems saving links on websites e.g. if theres a link to a .mp3 and i click it, firefox does nothing - is it part of the firefox probs or something else?
[11:30] <nonedead> how do i get into the root
[11:30] <HappyFool> SynapseR: ok, i have right-click -> Properties, but much the same thing, i guess
[11:30] <HappyFool> phixion: might be, i don't know
[11:31] <HappyFool> DekaPink: ok, sorry, i was being silly: that just confirms your drivers aren't accelerating, as you thought
[11:31] <HappyFool> DekaPink: an alternative test, i suppose
[11:31] <nonedead> happy: im not owner
[11:31] <phixion> ok cheers, do you happen to know of a newsgroup downloader app with nzb support?
[11:31] <DekaPink> HappyFool: Well... Thanks, I guess. :D
[11:31] <HappyFool> phixion: i don't know what that is, sorry ;)
[11:31] <HappyFool> phixion: try 'apt-cache search nzb'
[11:32] <phixion> ok thx again :)
[11:32] <HappyFool> SynapseR: i think you might need to enter the required info for the OK button to be ungreyed
[11:33] <phixion> well, basically .nzb files give you all the files you need to dload on the newsgroups for a certain release, so u dont have to keep refreshing the entire group :)
[11:33] <Doonz> Err http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports Release.gpg
[11:33] <Doonz>   Could not connect to ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[11:33] <HappyFool> SynapseR: i'm guessing you're using GPRS or something ?
[11:33] <Doonz> thats what im getting when i try updating more repositories
[11:33] <DekaPink> And I'm trying to ./ a file and it's saying the command isn't found... I know there's something I can do abotu this... just can't remember exactly what... :3
[11:33] <abbe80> how can I list all files in a dir that starts with "b" ?
[11:33] <HappyFool> DekaPink: chmod a+x <thefile>
[11:34] <recover> Which java package do I need for azureus to work?
[11:34] <HappyFool> abbe80: 'ls b*'
[11:34] <DekaPink> HappyFool: Thank you... :-D Sorry I'm so slow. Hehe.
[11:34] <everett_> Quick question for anyone who has built kernel-headers with kernel-package, I installd the .deb created by running make-kpkg kernel headers, and cd into /usr/src/kernel-headers.2.4.10/ but when I run make I get mv: cannot stat `include/asm-i386/asm_offsets.h.tmp': No such file or directory make: *** [include/asm-i386/asm_offsets.h]  Error 1
[11:34] <abbe80> :-)
[11:35] <HappyFool> Doonz: that backports mirror is probably down; you can maybe use another mirror. I think they're listed at the backports site
[11:35] <SynapseR> yep GPRS
[11:36] <Doonz> backport site?
[11:36] <SynapseR> thats what i'm trying to get working
[11:36] <Doonz> got an addy?
[11:36] <DaSkreech> Allr ight Let do this
[11:36] <DaSkreech> Leeeerroooooyyyyy
[11:36] <HappyFool> !backports
[11:36] <ubotu> hmm... backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[11:36] <DaSkreech> Jenkins!!!!
[11:37] <HappyFool> SynapseR: i may be wrong, but i think GPRS won't look like a normal modem
[11:38] <anachronism> DaSkreech, it's off-topic, but i saw that movie-file too
[11:38] <HappyFool> SynapseR: hmm. nothing on gprs on the wiki, it appears
[11:39] <anachronism> DaSkreech,  forgot to add "lol" to my message
[11:39] <wezzer-> good evening
[11:39] <wezzer-> can I share public folders (authentication=no) and home folders (authentication=yes) in same time using samba?
[11:40] <HappyFool> SynapseR: googling for 'ubuntu gprs' yields some hits, like this one: http://wildbill.nulldevice.net/archives/000104.html
[11:40] <anachronism> DaSkreech, "at least i have chicken"
[11:40] <DaSkreech> My hero
[11:40] <DaSkreech> NO Words!
[11:40] <HappyFool> wezzer-: you should be able to
[11:40] <DaSkreech> It detracts from the now Dahling
[11:40] <wezzer-> HappyFool: what should I put into smb.conf line: security = user / share ?
[11:41] <anne> what do i do to install opera browser on my computer, step by step
[11:41] <tirzah> howdy; ? for anyone, I've been seeing some discussions regarding java, and unfortunately I need it; I've installed (per starterguide inst); but FireFox still insists its missing the JRE is there anothre step I'm needing?
[11:41] <HappyFool> wezzer-: security = user, i think
[11:41] <everett_> could someone tell me why /usr/src/Kernel-headers-2.6.10 is incomplete after doing make-kpkg kernel-headers ??
[11:41] <HappyFool> wezzer-: in the share definition, you put this for anonymous access:  guest ok = yes
[11:42] <wezzer-> HappyFool: ahum, that sounds cool
[11:42] <wezzer-> HappyFool: I'll try
[11:42] <HappyFool> wezzer-: read 'man smb.conf' for (much) more
[11:43] <Yuki> what is the command to get KDE on ubuntu?
[11:43] <hybrid_goth> Yuki: sudo apt-get install kde
[11:43] <Yuki> kk tyty
[11:43] <HappyFool> Yuki: easiest is to install the kubuntu-desktop package
[11:43] <hybrid_goth> or download kubuntu
[11:43] <tirzah> why is KDE considered better than GNOME?
[11:44] <hybrid_goth> tirzah: by who?
[11:44] <HappyFool> tirzah: why is coca-cola better than pepsi?
[11:44] <tirzah> good point
[11:44] <thenuke> tirzah: it is not?
[11:44] <anne> i have to install opera in my computer, anybody know ho to do that, since that program is not in the synaptic
[11:44] <Determinist> anne, using the deb package
[11:44] <tirzah> ?
[11:44] <HappyFool> !opera
[11:44] <ubotu> [opera]  a very powerful and speedy web browser with a superfluity of features while placing stress upon visual aesthetics. Opera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/
[11:44] <tirzah> :)
[11:44] <thenuke> tirzah: but of course it is if you ask the ones who like KDE more
[11:44] <anne>  i am new at this so i need step by step please
[11:44] <tirzah> ok
[11:45] <hybrid_goth> i saw opera in breezy
[11:45] <hybrid_goth> repos
[11:45] <hybrid_goth> under nonfree
[11:45] <hmrocha> Seveas, is X still broken in breezy?
[11:45] <tirzah> I'm using Opera right now...
[11:45] <HappyFool> anne: go to that URL (www.opera.com/download/)
[11:45] <Determinist> anne, ok , go to that address ubotu just posted , download the latest version's .deb package
[11:45] <HappyFool> anne: i presume there are further instructions there; if not, ask for more help
[11:46] <Determinist> i wish this last reinstall would work :/
[11:46] <Yuki> in synaptic, will installing kubuntu desktop be enough for KDE or do I need to mark ALL of them for installation?
[11:46] <hybrid_goth> ubuntu need to have it set so double clicking .debs would run dpkg -i on them
[11:46] <tirzah> Ok, does anyone know how to get java to work in Firefox?  I've got sun-jre (whatever ver) installed, restarted FF, but yet FF still says I'm missing JRE..
[11:46] <Determinist> i just backed up 60 gigs of data to a friend's drive and am reinstalling winxp and hoary for the dual boot hoping it'll work this time :/
[11:46] <HappyFool> Yuki: as hybrid_goth suggested, you can just install kde -- kubuntu-desktop probably gets other things too
[11:46] <hybrid_goth> Yuki: you would download kubuntu but if you already have ubuntu install kde
[11:46] <anne> i have done that and its successfully saved on my computer, but i dont know how to find it there and get it started
[11:47] <Yuki> kk
[11:47] <Yuki> so just the kubuntu desktop package then?
[11:47] <HappyFool> anne: ok; you need to start a terminal (Applications -> System tools -> Terminal)
[11:47] <hybrid_goth> Yuki: outta work
[11:47] <Yuki> what about kubuntu live and kubuntu default settings?
[11:47] <HappyFool> anne: do you know where the file you downloaded is?
[11:47] <hybrid_goth> dont worry of kubuntu live
[11:48] <stvn> ogra: you there?
[11:48] <Yuki> ok, what about default settings then?
[11:48] <anne> file management i think, in norwegian arkivhndtering
[11:48] <epiloc> does anyone here have experience with PCAP ?
[11:48] <hybrid_goth> Yuki: if you want them
[11:48] <funkyHat> is firefox from backports safe (i.e. = more likely to work than current hoary build! :|) to use?
[11:48] <HappyFool> anne: um. ok, let's hope we can find it
[11:48] <Yuki> what are they for?
[11:48] <hybrid_goth> epiloc: isnt that used in windows
[11:48] <funkyHat> and can i get back to the hoary build if i need to?
[11:48] <hybrid_goth> Yuki: defualt settings i.e. themes and such
[11:49] <anne> now i am in terminal
[11:49] <hybrid_goth> Yuki: if you are new grab them
[11:49] <HappyFool> anne: ok, does 'ls *.deb' list the opera file you downloaded ?
[11:49] <Yuki> kk
[11:49] <epiloc> hybrid_goth, no.
[11:49] <epiloc> hybrid_goth, you are thinking of winPcap i think
[11:49] <anne> i am so stupid about this, i dont understand what you mean
[11:50] <hybrid_goth> epiloc: ah b/c i remember something like that from my win days :)
[11:50] <george_> hi
[11:50] <epiloc> hybrid_goth, like all things, that was stolen from unix
[11:50] <anne> tell me what to write in the terminal
[11:50] <hybrid_goth> epiloc: ah go figure
[11:50] <george_> ubuntu rocks
[11:50] <epiloc> im trying to do a little packet sniffing on my network
[11:50] <HappyFool> anne: type this:                    ls *.deb
[11:50] <hybrid_goth> epiloc: win32Pcap i think
[11:50] <postmodern> does gnome-ppp come on the ubuntu install cds?
[11:50] <HappyFool> anne: then <enter>
[11:51] <everett_> Anyone here use make-kpkg kernel_headers before?
[11:51] <Yuki> which is better: kopete or GAIM?
[11:51] <hybrid_goth> epiloc: yes i know of it dont know it
[11:51] <george_> dont know
[11:51] <postmodern> yuacht, gaim for gnome imho
[11:51] <postmodern> er
[11:51] <postmodern> Yuki, gaim for gnome
[11:51] <Yuki> what about kde?  I won't be using gnome anymore
[11:51] <anne> command not found it says
[11:51] <obvious_ron> What do I need to do to get the main Firefox build (1.0.6) via Synaptic?
[11:52] <HappyFool> anne: the file you downloaded is called this, right? : opera-static_8.01-20050615.1-qt_en_i386.deb ?
[11:52] <funkyHat> Yuki, kopete
[11:52] <postmodern> Yuki, use kopete then
[11:52] <Yuki> kk ty
[11:52] <HappyFool> anne: hmm, that's odd
[11:52] <anne> yes
[11:52] <Kyral> obvious_ron, its out of Apt
[11:52] <Kyral> If you want it you need to build it from the Breezy Source
[11:52] <HappyFool> anne: 'ls *.deb' says command not found ?
[11:52] <Andrewcool> Hello
[11:52] <anne> yes , is there space between ls and * maybe
[11:53] <HappyFool> anne: that's an ell (lowercase L), not a one (1)
[11:53] <HappyFool> anne: yes, there is a space
[11:53] <Andrewcool> I just got my new Ubuntu cds..using the live cds for now :D
[11:53] <teferi> i fucking well should be after the past week
[11:53] <anne> i understand and wrot l for lover
[11:53] <george_> how do i get soundjuser to rip mp3s
[11:54] <HappyFool> anne: ok, sorry, just trying to guess the error
[11:54] <dracko> hey, im new linux user, how i can compile kernel to do new changes?
[11:54] <HappyFool> anne: did it list any files now?
[11:54] <HappyFool> new linux users do not usually need to compile kernels ;)
[11:54] <obvious_ron> Kyral: I'm a newbie, so building from source code is Greek to me.  ^_^
[11:55] <nubbe> obvious_ron, u have to add a Backports staging repository
[11:55] <dracko> lol
[11:55] <hybrid_goth> obvious_ron: it isnt hard
[11:55] <anne> i am just grateful for your help. is it root terminal or just terminal i must write commands in
[11:55] <HappyFool> anne: just terminal
[11:55] <LinuxJones> dracko, you should not compile your own kernel unless you absolutely have to.
[11:55] <ubuntu_> I have a question on the installation on Ubuntu
[11:55] <hybrid_goth> if in terminal you must sudo
[11:55] <hybrid_goth> root you dont
[11:55] <dracko> well, i wanna learn, is i dont learn how to compile kernel, well i think i back to window system
[11:56] <dracko> lol, my englis is very very bad
[11:56] <hybrid_goth> dracko: there is a pkg that guides you through it but i cant think of the name
[11:56] <anne> thats what i did, could you maybe take me step by step throug download again
[11:56] <HappyFool> anne: you have downloaded the file; we just need to find it
[11:57] <andrewcool2> Dracko: Can you help me with the installation of Ubuntu
[11:57] <HappyFool> anne: type this command, and tell me what the output it:   'find -name opera-static_8.01-20050615.1-qt_en_i386.deb'
[11:57] <demirg> hi, can anyone help me about nvidia-rivafb conflict???
[11:57] <dracko> i downloaded the most new linux kernel version, but i waanna change my actually version for the new one
[11:57] <HappyFool> anne: you can cut-and-paste from x-chat to the terminal
[11:58] <HappyFool> anne: select the text with the mouse, right-click and choose 'Copy'; then, in the terminal, right-click and choose 'paste'
[11:58] <crimsun> demirg: sure, what do you need to know?
[11:58] <HappyFool> oh bother, x-chat doesn't have right-click copy
[11:58] <hybrid_goth> highlight
[11:58] <hybrid_goth> it
[11:58] <HappyFool> anne: sorry; in x-chat, select the text with the mouse and press Ctrl-C to copy
[11:58] <hybrid_goth> hold ctrl and press c
[11:59] <hybrid_goth> HappyFool: ;-P
[11:59] <crimsun> dracko: <IP_ADDRESS> or 2.6.13-rc3[-git5] ?
[11:59] <andrewcool2> Can somebody help me with the expert mode of Ubuntu
[11:59] <HappyFool> hybrid_goth: annoying interface glitch in my opinion
[11:59] <hybrid_goth> andrewcool2: ask your question
[11:59] <hybrid_goth> HappyFool: i prefer irssi
[11:59] <demirg> crimsun: when i try to install nvidia driver it gives me warning saying that rivafb conflicts with nvidia, it may prevent nvidia from running correctly and it doesn't :)
[12:00] <nebular> cd #winehq


[01:37] <freaxtux> hello
[01:38] <freaxtux> I'm on trial mode and I need some help for installing
[01:38] <freaxtux> nobody there?
[01:40] <freaxtux> Well, let me just write anyway
[01:40] <freaxtux> I'm installing Xubuntu on my sister's notebook, but there's no much capacity.
[01:41] <freaxtux> it has 512 RAM, and 2GB is alloweed for Xubuntu by her.
[01:42] <freaxtux> So I'm gonna make 1GB for /, and 1GB for swap.
[01:43] <freaxtux> Would that be enough? I'll be waiting for you.
[01:47] <freaxtux> (wikipedia(en) says 1.5GB would be enough for Xubuntu)
[08:11] <newbie> HI
[08:12] <newbie> Is there any Koreans?
[08:14] <newbie> 코분투 iso  파일 어디서 다운로드 받을수 있는지 아시는분 있나요?


[01:17] <Geodude> I just installed Ubuntu 10.04 on an old computer I found in the trash at my brother's work. I can't get the sound to work. I can see the card, it says Audigy SB [unknown]. But I can't get it to make sound. It has like 8 jacks in it and I can't figure out which jack is the right jack. But I've been messing with it for like an hour now and I still have no sound. :/
[01:17] <Geodude> SB Audigy 2 [unknown]*
[01:20] <Geodude> I added snd-emu10k1 in /etc/modules. That did nothing, AFAIK.
[01:29] <philipballew> what driver is the sound card running?
[01:29] <philipballew> Geodude,
[01:31] <Geodude> Uhh how do I check that?
[01:31] <philipballew> open a terminal
[01:31] <philipballew> lspci -vvv
[01:32] <philipballew> paste it into pastebin or something or if you want to isolate the sound card your welcome to
[01:32] <Geodude> From googling, everyone else's card says "SB Audigy 2 [SB0240]" where mine says "SB Audigy 2 [Unknown]". I only found one search result that listed it as unknown and their problem was that they had their sound muted so that didn't help me at all.
[01:33] <philipballew> well paste the output to here
[01:33] <philipballew> pastebin.com/
[01:37] <Geodude> http://paste.ubuntu.com/795579/
[01:37] <philipballew> even better
[01:38] <Geodude> Sorry I'm on IRC on my windows computer and the linux computer is across the room so I have to go back and forth lol.
[01:38] <philipballew> you should switch to ubuntu full time
[01:39] <philipballew> also, whats alsamixer show?
[01:39] <Geodude> I actually just switched from Ubuntu full time.
[01:39] <Geodude> I used it for a year as my only OS.
[01:39] <Geodude> Uhg I hate alsamixer. I dont know. I can't ever figure out what it is doing or how to move it. I can't use my mouse so it's extremely debilitating lol.
[01:39] <philipballew> did you want to hate yourself so you decided to switch back :)
[01:40] <Geodude> Unity and lack of gnome2 support made me switch to Windows again.
[01:40] <philipballew> you dont need a mouse. its all in the terminal, thats why its so good
[01:40] <Geodude> CLI is not my strong side :)
[01:40] <Geodude> I prefer GUI when I can.
[01:40] <Geodude> It's showing soudn at 100%. other than that i can't read alsamixer.
[01:40] <Geodude> sound*
[01:40] <philipballew> have you ever thought about xfce,lxde,kde,openbox,fluxbox?
[01:41] <philipballew> your welcome to take a screen shot
[01:41] <Geodude> I've tried kde, xfce, lxde, et c. et c. ad nauseum.
[01:41] <Geodude> I like gnome2.
[01:41] <Geodude> I tried Unity and Gnome3 for about 3 weeks each and I could not get them to work. My games would not even render on the screen.
[01:42] <Geodude> I could hear the sound and interact with menus with my mouse and keyboard, but it would just show my desktop.
[01:42] <Geodude> Unity and Gnome3, IMO, are still in beta.
[01:42] <Geodude> They need major work before I will consider them again.
[01:42] <philipballew> sorry, im not a gamer so i never messed with those. unity is nice imo. but i have customized the hell out of it
[01:43] <Geodude> That's what I've heard. Unity is nice if you spend a long time customizing it. Which I did. But I don't like change.  Unity is unusable unless I spend at least 30 minutes changing stuff.
[01:45] <Geodude> So I'm sticking with 10.04 until Mint gets MATE off the ground.
[01:45] <Geodude> Or they fix Gnome3.
[01:46] <philipballew> maybe if you dont like change then if you were using linux before gnome 2 you probably would not have like gnome 2. sometimes these things are confusing at first but its all linux really. if yiu have a terminal and a web browser you got most everything
[01:47] <philipballew> I really hate mint
[01:47] <philipballew> and i normally like most things, but mint bugs the shit out me
[01:47] <philipballew> did you get that screen shot?
[01:48] <Geodude> tinyurl.com/79xcueg
[01:49] <Geodude> I need windows for my games anyways. I got most of my games working in Linux but they just look so much better in DX10.
[01:49] <philipballew> what kind of games do you play?
[01:50] <Geodude> Dungeons and Dragons Online, Guild Wars, Star Wars The Old Republic
[01:50] <Geodude> Guild Wars works almost natively on Linux because the developers coded it to play nicely with Wine.
[01:50] <philipballew> sounds like a total fun time!
[01:50] <philipballew> star wars is cool
[01:51] <Geodude> SWTOR is super buggy right now. I'm going to give it a few months. It's pretty agrevating.
[01:51] <Geodude> But I'm really enjoying it.
[01:52] <philipballew> what are the two things in alsamixer that are muted?
[01:53] <Geodude> the things that have the [MM] on them?
[01:53] <Geodude> Tone and 3d contr
[01:53] <Geodude> But I can't un-mute them.
[01:54] <philipballew> how old is this computer?
[01:54] <Geodude> I found it in the trash.
[01:54] <Geodude> lol
[01:54] <philipballew> so you put linux on it!
[01:54] <Geodude> Yes. lol.
[01:54] <Geodude> It only has 1 gig of ram but it has a really nice CPU for some reason lol.
[01:55] <philipballew> my laptop has four and it has run ubuntu since the day i got it
[01:55] <Geodude> Intel 4 3.00GHz, 3.00GHz
[01:59] <philipballew> alright, well since you got this in the trash, im wondering if the card is dammaged
[02:01] <Geodude> I had Win7 on it for a hot minute and the sound worked.
[02:01] <Geodude> But, yeah. I'm at the end of my rope here. I don't know what the problem is. Ubuntu sees the card.
[02:02]  * philipballew thinks
[02:02] <philipballew> could be a pulse thing
[02:13] <Geodude> I have always had issues with sound since Ubuntu 10.04
[02:15] <Geodude> How do I check to see if Pulseaudio is working correctly?
[02:16] <philipballew> !pulse
[02:16] <ubot2`> PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions
[02:18] <Geodude> Well, it's running.
[02:19] <Geodude> But I do not have this: Now, go into Applications -> Sound and Video -> click on PulseAudio Preferences.
[02:22] <Geodude> It also says to enable software sound mixing and set devices to Autodetect in my Sounds panel but I don't have those options anywhere.
[03:28] <pjkaiser> Hi all... Linux n00b here. Been trying to install Lubuntu on an old, old system (P3 500) with problems... any helpers out there?
[03:28] <Geodude> It's pretty quiet tonight. I've never installed Lubuntu before.
[03:29] <pleia2> pjkaiser: I suggest asking specific questions, if people know the answers they'll make some suggestions
[03:29] <pjkaiser> That's OK... I'm thinking there may be hardware issues, but I'm not sure. I installed 32-bit Ubuntu, and it worked - sort of
[03:29] <pjkaiser> really slow, the mouse left pointer trails all over the screen
[03:30] <Geodude> That is odd.
[03:30] <pjkaiser> Lubuntu installed, but when I booted up after the install, it did the POST checks fine, and hung just after that
[03:30] <pjkaiser> All I saw was the flashing cursor in the top left corner of the screen
[03:32] <pjkaiser> The other thing is (here's where the hardware issues may come in), I'm installing it on a system with a dead CD-ROM and dead 3.5" drives. The way I did it was to phyiscally remove the HDD and hook it up to another tower with a working CD drive
[03:32] <pjkaiser> then, after the install but before the reboot, I reconnected to the P3 500
[03:33] <pjkaiser> my only other thought might be to remove the CD drive from the newer tower and transfer it to the P3 for the install...
[03:33] <pleia2> sounds like it's not loading the boot loader, which may be because it can't find it (referencing a drive name which doesn't exist, which may due to installing it on another system) or something is broken on it
[03:34] <pjkaiser> when I got the old compo (free, btw), it had win98 on it... it worked, but sluggishly, and had trouble finding internet
[03:34] <pleia2> you don't actually need to install ubuntu and lubuntu separately, if ubuntu worked you can just try out lubuntu by installing the lubuntu-desktop package and switching to lubuntu in the login screen
[03:34] <pjkaiser> ah
[03:34] <pjkaiser> I looked for Lubuntu in the software center after seeing regular U running so choppily
[03:34] <pjkaiser> and didn't find anything
[03:34] <pleia2> which version of ubuntu?
[03:35] <pjkaiser> 10.04
[03:35] <pjkaiser> I'm running that (with no problems) on the other tower
[03:35] <pleia2> ah, yeah, lubuntu only became official with the latest release, 11.10
[03:35] <pjkaiser> Oh
[03:36] <pjkaiser> running regular Ubuntu 10.10LTS on the 2GHz machine, and that's the version that ran (slowly) on the P3
[03:36] <pleia2> 10.04 LTS?
[03:36] <pjkaiser> and that install worked with the cross-drive install
[03:36] <pleia2> (10.10 wasn't an LTS)
[03:36] <pjkaiser> sorry, yeah
[03:37] <pjkaiser> 10.04LTS
[03:37] <pleia2> you can also try other things, like just installing an alternate desktop environment
[03:37] <pjkaiser> can I get those via the software center?
[03:37] <pleia2> install xfce, or fluxbox, again you just select the nalternate window manager when you log in
[03:37] <pleia2> yes
[03:37] <pjkaiser> awesome
[03:38] <pleia2> I use fluxbox on my old p3 laotop
[03:38] <pjkaiser> cool
[03:38] <pleia2> very basic :) but I just need to start up a web browser and chat really
[03:38] <pjkaiser> all righty then... I have a few more ideas to try out now. Thanks a bunch, and here's hopin'! :-)
[03:38] <pleia2> good luck
[03:40] <pjkaiser> Hey... another random question
[03:40] <pjkaiser> with Ubuntu, I have to click the mouse arrow way down near the bottom to click where I want to... is there a fix for that?
[03:40] <pleia2> not sure what you mean
[03:41] <pjkaiser> everything works just fine, but when I click the mouse button on something, it reads a bit low, or...
[03:41] <pjkaiser> instead of clicking right where the tip of the mouse arrow is, it's more toward the bottom
[03:41] <pleia2> never seen that before, sorry
[03:41] <pjkaiser> the bottom left corner of the arrow head, to be exact
[03:42] <pjkaiser> oh well
[03:42] <pjkaiser> not a big deal, just a bit weird
[03:42] <pleia2> sounds weird :)
[03:42] <pleia2> might try a different mouse and see if it still happens/
[03:42] <pjkaiser> when I switch back to another compo, I find myself clicking too high the first few times :-P
[03:42] <pjkaiser> anyway, off to try the reinstall
[09:35] <pjkaiser> Hi all. Just got Lubuntu running on this system, and I want to get Folding@Home running on here too... Any helpers?
[11:45] <Culiforge> somewhere along the line, kernel 2.6.32-37 (I think) got added to my grub. It's set as default kernel before 32-33 but it doesn't boot correctly. How can I remove/reinstall it so I dont break anything?
[16:14] <pip__> newbie question:  I've seen a reference to this: $> ifup wlan0.  What in the world does the > refer to.  I get the $ is a standard terminal line & not # (root?)  I understand that the rest is about wireless interfaces.  I'm trying to work out how to use ifscheme.
[18:26] <harleydude> Where do I change screen resolution?
[22:28] <Kentrel> Can someone help me figure out why I can't get my USB microphone to work. It's a Samson COU1 and it's recognised automatically, but I can't record anything. Checked all the levels


[12:32] <dilys> New Malone bug 1319 filed on product Malone by Brad Bollenbach: "Sidebar" should be moved into portlets on the search screen
[12:32] <dilys> https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/1319
[12:36] <dilys> Merge to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[trivial]  Comments for IPerson.addLanguage() and IPerson.removeLanguage(). (patch-2066<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:59] <sabdfl> hey guys
[01:02] <Mez> morning sabdfl
[01:04] <sabdfl> hey mez
[01:11] <dilys> New Malone bug 1320 filed on product Malone by Brad Bollenbach: It's very difficult to discover how to mark a bug "Fixed"
[01:11] <dilys> https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/1320
[01:14] <sivang> hey sabdfl  :-)
[01:37] <dilys> Merge to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[trivial]  more import fascist improvements (patch-2067<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:57] <dilys> Merge to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[trivial]  simplify ConnectionDescriptor, suppress bogus None has no attribute cache errors. (patch-8<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:28] <dilys> Merge to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[r=mpt,jamesh,stub]  New GPG/CoC features, new key validation workflow, encrypt/decrypt support, reviewed UI and GPGKey.revoked renamed to active. (patch-2068<EMAIL_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:28] <dilys> Merge to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[rs=stub]  made caches get expired after a commit(), which removes some work from __del__ methods.  to be truely effective, we need to make transactions obsolete on commit.  issues with our librarian code prevent that at present. (patch-24<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:29] <mpt> How long does "baz annotate" on a single file usually take?
[02:46] <mpt> 15 minutes seems wrong...
[03:05] <mpt> ... and 30 minutes is definitely wrong.
[11:36] <dilys> Merge to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>new build (patch-37)
[11:36] <dilys> Merge to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>const-correctness for invariant_test (patch-7<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:02] <dilys> Merge to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>new build (patch-38)
[12:03] <dilys> Merge to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>build-config --update implemented. --switch now the default (patch-30<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:41] <zyga> hello
[01:41] <zyga> is there any way to upload translations to rosetta?
[01:41] <zyga> I've got gcc-4.0 somewhat translated to polish
[01:41] <zyga> but re-typing that all into rosetta would be suicide
[04:24] <SteveA> zyga: sure, it's possible.  carlos or daf can help you to get these translations in there.
[04:25] <SteveA> i read some conversation about translating gcc, where someone thought it wasn't a good idea, because people lose the ability to look up errors in google.
[04:33] <SteveA> as an english first language person, i have no experience of this either way.
[04:58] <zyga> SteveA: well then again people can do LANG=C make
[04:58] <zyga> SteveA: anyway it's there, it's translatable, it's translated in other languages
[06:15] <lifeless> night all (garh 2:15 am). For anyone interested, I've whipped up a web ui to look at the pqm queue, its in my arch-pqm--main--0 branch, I'll tidy it up for review tomorrow/monday, and will get a copy running on chinstrap in a similar timeframe.
[06:25] <SteveA> zyga: what format do you have the translation in ?  is it a pot file?
[06:44] <jblack> What does the brazilian power plug look like?
[06:44] <jblack> What does the brazilian power plug look like?
[06:44] <jblack> Hi, salgado. Good timing. ;)
[06:45] <salgado> yo jblack
[06:45] <salgado> you can use A, B or C here
[06:45] <jblack> You have three different plugs in common use?
[06:46] <salgado> jblack, what's that site where they have all the plugs again?
[06:46] <jblack> No idea.
[06:46] <salgado> http://kropla.com/electric2.htm
[06:47] <jblack> Oh, type A looks suspiciously american.
[06:48] <salgado> we have a special kind of the B one, in which all of them (A, B and C) fits
[06:52] <jblack> Thanks a load, salgado.
[06:58] <jblack> pun not intended.
[07:23] <zyga> SteveA: yes
[07:42] <Nafallo> carlos: ping
[08:30] <Nafallo> carlos: ping x2 ;-)
[10:29] <carlos> Nafallo, pong
[10:29] <dilys> New Malone bug 1326 filed on product Rosetta by Jenny Lw: My translations are gone!
[10:29] <dilys> https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/bugs/1326
[11:58] <Nafallo> carlos: #1326 :-)
[11:59] <Nafallo> carlos: I'm the reporters boyfriend and I can't see her translations either.
[11:59] <carlos> Nafallo, are you an 'official' translator?
[12:00] <Nafallo> carlos: I'm in Ubuntu Swedish Translators :-)
[12:00] <carlos> ok
[12:00] <carlos> just a second...
[12:01] <carlos> https://launchpad.ubuntu.com/distros/ubuntu/hoary/+sources/ubuntu-docs/+pots/aboutubuntu/sv/+translate <- is it that URL?
[12:01] <Nafallo> carlos: yes
[12:02] <carlos> Nafallo, ok, that's our fault. The translations are still there, but with multiple lines entries we are not showing translations
[12:02] <carlos> I think new version that will be available on Tuesday fixes that
[12:03] <carlos> but I'm not 100% sure
[12:03] <Nafallo> carlos: I know it's your fault ;-). I was the one that pushed her to file her first bug to :-).
[12:04] <Nafallo> carlos: she's happy that you have it covered... now to the other ping ;-).
[12:04] <carlos> Nafallo, ;-)
[12:05] <carlos> but don't worry, the translations are stored
[12:05] <carlos> ok, what's the other ping?
[12:06] <Nafallo> carlos: you told me when you accepted me for swedish translator that we need to organize the group. I've discovered that I didn't have logging turned on, so what was the issues you wanted to have solved? :-)
[12:07] <carlos> I don't remember it atm O:-)
[12:07] <Nafallo> carlos: i.e. I'm planning to send an e-mail to start discussing this with the other members ASAP :-).
[12:07] <Nafallo> carlos: something about management I would think? :-)
[12:07] <carlos> Nafallo, I suppose it's a matter of request ubuntu-l10n-sv@lists.ubuntu.com


[06:48] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:54] <elfy> hi lordievader
[06:55] <lordievader> Hey elfy, how are you?
[06:55] <elfy> good thanks - sun is still here :)
[06:55] <elfy> how are you?
[06:59] <lordievader> Doing good, sun is showing itself here somewhat.
[10:04] <rainbowwarrior> hello
[10:06] <rainbowwarrior> Hi I am using Ubuntu 14.10 on an acer v5 571p laptop connected to a aoc monitor via hdmi , my problem is for some reason when I run an application from the launcher I just get an icon of the program and then when I click on it nothing happens , how can I fix this please ?
[10:32] <rainbowwarrior> hello
[10:33] <rainbowwarrior> Hi I am using Ubuntu 14.10 on an acer v5 571p laptop connected to a aoc monitor via hdmi , my problem is for some reason when I run an application from the launcher I just get an icon of the program and then when I click on it nothing happens , how can I fix this please ?
[11:51] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:57] <BluesKaj> the 14.10 Final Beta Freeze is on
[13:08] <rainbowwarrior> hello
[13:54] <vincenzoml> Hi all, since some recent update my sound card has stopped detecting when I plug in a jack in the headphones output of my laptop
[13:54] <vincenzoml> I've used a program called hdajackretask to make pulseaudio at least *see* the headphones out
[13:55] <vincenzoml> but now I need to switch the output manually
[13:55] <vincenzoml> autodetection is just broken
[22:21] <prodigel> hey all. Got a small issue with ubuntu utopic, dunno if it's meant to be like that or a bug: If you have two keyboards (laptop + normal) hitting caps lock will sync the two keyboard states (both on/off). This wasn't happening in the previous versions, and it was a useful 'feature' as I was able this way to bypass the apple keyboard caps lock delay keypress. Why do I need that? :) Well ... I'm mapping my caps lock to Escape whi
[22:21] <prodigel> ch I use a lot in vim. Hope you find my issue interesting!
[23:10] <prodigel> wow, cool down! too much feedback!


[07:31] <accelerator[m]> Hi..welcome back
[12:34] <Accelerator> elopio: The integration tests failed again...so i updated the branch...don't know if it will pass all the tests this time...
[17:01] <Accelerator> elopio: Alright...all the tests passed :)
[19:21] <Accelerator> elopio: You free?
[19:43] <Accelerator> elopio: Well i'm off to sleep...review my PR if you are free..thanks :D


[01:13] <Cheri703> Canthus13: where is the veteran's home?
[01:13] <canthus13> Sandusky
[01:14] <Cheri703> Ah, a bit closer to the goal
[01:15] <canthus13> yep.
[01:16] <Cheri703> Back in a while, going to make my dinner
[01:16] <canthus13> 'k. have fun. :)
[02:13] <Cheri703> I am updating my NetBook to 12.04
[02:13] <Cheri703> And watching a dumb movie on Netflix on my desktop
[02:30] <jandrusk> A Linux desktop?
[03:30] <Cheri703> running win7 in vm


[20:08] <thumper> morning
[23:18] <wallyworld_> thumper: g'day, got time for a hangout?
[23:19] <thumper> wallyworld_: yes, I have jesse here with me right now
[23:19] <wallyworld_> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/76cpi8fve17qps06s1ssppkjc0


[06:12] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:23] <superfly> morning
[06:24] <magespawn> morning all
[06:27] <superfly> hiya magespawn
[06:29] <magespawn> what is happening today?
[06:34] <superfly> lots of stuff...
[06:34] <superfly> :-P
[06:41] <magespawn> ahhj that is always good, stops one from being bored
[06:41] <magespawn> learning how to use a server today through
[06:41] <magespawn> ssh
[06:57] <magespawn> hi back again
[07:01] <magespawn> better
[07:03] <meesterarend> hey
[07:03] <superfly> hi meesterarend, wb magespawn
[07:03] <meesterarend> rather quiet here :)
[07:04] <magespawn> got the ssh installed now just need to set up another user on the host for my laptop
[07:04] <superfly> not much goes on early in the day... the evenings are usually busier
[07:04] <meesterarend> everyone working?
[07:04] <superfly> magespawn: have you set up SSH keypairs?
[07:04] <magespawn> not yet no
[07:04] <meesterarend> i know superfly
[07:05] <magespawn> still reading on the net
[07:06] <superfly> magespawn: ssh-keygen -t dsa
[07:07] <superfly> then ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub user@remote-host
[07:07] <superfly> if you're just using it on internal domains, you can skip the passphrase (make it empty) and then you have a password-less login to your server
[07:08] <magespawn> made a mistake just did ssh 192.168.1.xxx and not ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:08] <magespawn> the first one uses the userna,e that I am logged into the laptop with
[07:09] <magespawn> username
[07:09] <magespawn> do i do the key gen from the client
[07:09] <superfly> yes
[07:10] <magespawn> i want to have a passphrase then i can ty it from outside my network using dyndns
[07:11] <superfly> magespawn: don't forget http://xkcd.com/936/
[07:12] <superfly> phew, I was about to give him a mouthful
[07:14] <magespawn> yup have read that one before
[07:34] <magespawn> superfly: apparently you can do : ssh-keygen -t dsa -b 4096 to increase the amount of bits
[07:34] <superfly> indeed
[07:35] <magespawn>  what is the differnce between dsa and rsa in the above command?
[07:36] <magespawn> ubuntu wiki page has it as rsa.
[07:36] <superfly> they are two different of algorithms
[07:36] <magespawn> i see for the encryption
[07:36] <superfly> rsa is the more closed of the two
[07:36] <magespawn> ahh
[07:36] <superfly> there used to be the threat of litigation, but the people who own RSA recently said that they won't sue anyone, or something like that
[07:37] <superfly> DSA is the "open source" RSA
[07:38] <magespawn> interestingly DSA is patented but that patent has been made availble worldwide royalty free
[07:39] <superfly> yeah, that's the one
[07:42] <magespawn> got this back : DSA keys must be 1024 bits
[07:53] <magespawn> according to the ssh-keygen manpage DSA can only be 1024
[08:04] <magespawn> superfly have done the keygen using rsa at 4096, now to setup dyndns
[09:12] <Kilos> sjoe, amper vergeet om môre te sê
[09:12] <Kilos> morning all
[09:12] <Kilos> hi superfly nlsthzn
[09:12] <Kilos> aw maaz still dead
[09:12] <nlsthzn> Hello uncle Kilos
[09:13] <magespawn> howdy kilos
[09:13] <nlsthzn> Seems you will have to make your own coffee
[09:13] <magespawn> K
[09:13] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[09:13]  * nlsthzn goes to make his own tea
[09:13] <Kilos> lol
[09:13] <superfly> hi hi oom Kilos
[09:14] <magespawn> Kilos how is the lpi goinf?
[09:14] <magespawn> goinf
[09:14] <magespawn> going
[09:15] <Kilos> magespawn, struggling some but now got more to learn
[09:15] <Kilos> didnt you see the links yesterday
[09:16] <magespawn> no what links on the wiki?
[09:16] <Kilos> http://www.lpi.org/linux-certifications/intro-programs/linux-essentials
[09:16] <Kilos> i have at least got an LPI ID now but will see if i ever get that far as to write
[09:17] <Kilos> more manuals, books etc
[09:19]  * nlsthzn is getting far behind with LPI... need to get my backside in gear
[09:19] <magespawn> mm me too. What is an LPI ID?
[09:19] <Kilos> the monkey is very busy at the moment so you have time
[09:20] <Kilos> LPI ID is the ID thats recognised world wide
[09:20] <Kilos> and you need one to be part of them
[09:20] <magespawn> so when you have your certs people can check against that
[09:21] <Kilos> you will get them with that id on i think
[09:21] <Kilos> its like the main registry
[09:22] <magespawn> Similar to CompTIA i should imagine for A+ and such
[09:22] <Kilos> took me a while to go through all of that and find their books
[09:22] <Kilos> you can also mail them with questions/suggestions
[09:24] <Kilos> but its a good site, uses min data. maybe some python guy was involved
[09:26] <Kilos> hows ahab land nlsthzn ?
[09:26] <Kilos> you dont get cyclones there hey?
[09:27] <nlsthzn> Nope, only sand storms...
[09:27] <nlsthzn> and at the moment it is slowly heating up :(
[09:27] <Kilos> lol that doesnt help plants grow
[09:28] <Kilos> according to the tv news natal had some floods
[09:28] <nlsthzn> that sucks
[09:36] <magespawn> nothing very serious
[09:37] <Kilos> mainly squatters near rivers
[09:37] <magespawn> rivers came up but in most places no property damage
[09:37] <magespawn> most of the rural areas okay as far as i know
[09:38] <magespawn> maybe Maaz needed a holiday
[09:38] <Kilos> bots arent allowed holidays
[09:39] <Kilos> and maaz is in germany or holland methinks
[09:39] <Kilos> or works through there
[09:39] <Kilos> lo inetpro
[09:40] <Kilos> magespawn, hows the cafe doing
[09:40] <magespawn> quite at the moment need more internet cafe customers
[09:41] <Kilos> advertise
[09:41] <Kilos> dont you have a local paper
[09:41] <magespawn> have flyers going out to the local po box today
[09:41] <magespawn> have an advert in this months and last months
[09:42] <inetpro> hello Kilos
[09:42] <Kilos> thats good. they gotta be eye catching though or most peeps dump them without reading them
[09:44] <magespawn> yup so we will see, also have an idea on how to get people to pre buy internet time with specials
[09:44]  * inetpro puts the kettle on for Kilos and washes some mugs
[09:44] <Kilos> ha ha ha you my hero inetpro
[09:45] <Kilos> inetpro, coffee please
[09:46] <inetpro> Kilos: Now now, we don't want anyone getting caffeine overdoses
[09:46] <Kilos> hehe i havent had any yet so struggling a bit
[09:47] <inetpro> Kilos: the kettle is on already
[09:47] <inetpro> and the cups are ready
[09:47] <Kilos> beer mug full please with cremora and milk
[09:47] <inetpro> Kilos: huh?
[09:47] <Kilos> and rusks on the side
[09:48] <inetpro> Kilos: Excuse me?
[09:48] <Kilos> inetpro, ytou're excused
[09:48] <Kilos> you're as well
[09:49] <inetpro> Kilos: What?
[09:49] <Kilos> fingers too fat, not enough coffee
[09:49] <Kilos> hehe
[09:50] <inetpro> Coffee's ready for Kilos
[09:50] <Kilos> inetpro, danke
[09:50] <inetpro> Kilos: Bitteschön mein Freund
[09:50] <Kilos> cute bot this
[09:53] <Kilos> magespawn, do you have a good fast connection?
[09:53] <Kilos> have they installed optic fibre cables there yet?
[09:54] <magespawn> no fibre but running a 1mbps adsl
[09:56] <Kilos> ah
[09:57] <magespawn> uncapped ftw
[09:57] <Kilos> sigh
[09:58] <Squirm> where I work, we have a 4mb uncapped line. the admin caps everyone
[09:58] <Squirm> cept me :D
[09:58] <Kilos> lol you lucky Squirm
[09:58] <magespawn> nice then
[09:59] <magespawn> are you the admin?
[09:59] <Squirm> na
[09:59] <Squirm> I'm a lowly assistant
[09:59] <Squirm> :P
[09:59] <Squirm> maybe not lowly
[10:00] <Squirm> I have access to uncap myself though, but if I did without the admin knowing, he might not like me
[10:00] <Kilos> everyone has to start somewhere
[10:00] <Squirm> so I asked
[10:00] <Kilos> just remember knowlege is power
[10:00] <magespawn> best way to do it
[10:00] <Squirm> and now I have uncapped
[10:00] <Squirm> ^^
[10:01] <Squirm> bbiab, putting more memory in
[10:01] <magespawn> had a bit of a shock when i checked my usage for the lst 12 months
[10:01] <Kilos> Squirm, mainly windows stuff you gotta do?
[10:01] <Squirm> Kilos: unfortunately so
[10:01] <Squirm> but we're installing mint on older machines
[10:01] <Kilos> eish, sympathies
[10:02] <Squirm> looking into getting mint to authenticate with Active Directory, so we can roll those out on our domain
[10:02] <Kilos> thats a good start
[10:02] <Squirm> that's why my boss gave me 8Gb of RAM, so I could run a few VM's
[10:02] <Kilos> wow thats nice
[10:03] <Squirm> my office pc, 2.6GHz Core i5, 8Gb of RAM, 500Gb hdd
[10:03] <Kilos> lovely
[10:03] <Squirm> well, 4Gb now, need to put in the 2*4Gb now
[10:03] <Squirm> bbiab
[10:05] <magespawn> kilos my usage peaked last month at 25GB, insane
[10:05] <Kilos> wow did you download lotsa iso's or is it peeps with movies etc?
[10:06] <magespawn> not too sure did take two iso last month CentOS and Windows Developer
[10:07] <Kilos> thats under 2g
[10:08] <magespawn> i also do windows updates for people so that could use a lot
[10:08] <Kilos> ah
[10:09] <magespawn> the cent0s was the dvd so 2.6g i think
[10:09] <Kilos> oh not cds?
[10:09] <Squirm> mwhahaha
[10:10] <magespawn> i like to get both if i can but had a problem getting the cd iso
[10:11] <Kilos> wassup Squirm
[10:13] <magespawn> and that
[10:13] <Kilos> he sounds happy about something
[10:14] <magespawn> maybe the extra speed on the pc
[10:14] <Kilos> yeah
[10:14] <Squirm> 8Gb ram
[10:14] <Squirm> ^^
[10:14] <Kilos> ram is so important
[10:30] <Squirm> inded
[10:30] <Kilos> eish tried to reinstall apparmor and synaptic said it isnt authenticated then froze the pc
[10:40] <Kilos> how can something in the repos not be authenticated
[10:40] <Kilos> is it my synaptic gone mad
[10:42] <magespawn> maybe just update first
[10:42] <magespawn> sudo apt-get update
[10:42] <Kilos> oh forgot that
[10:42] <Kilos> cant do that got 200m of updates pending
[10:43] <magespawn> there is a way to check the updates just for tha package, hold on
[10:43] <Kilos> i did apt-get-update yesterday
[10:43] <Kilos> its the upgrade i cant do
[10:44] <Kilos> maybe the prob is that synaptic sees the update but without upgrading it cant continue
[10:45] <magespawn> if you want to just do apparmor try apt-get install apparmor
[10:46] <Kilos> ok will try ty
[10:46] <Kilos> no man
[10:46] <magespawn> that should update to the latest
[10:46] <Kilos> apt-get will say its already installed
[10:46] <Kilos> aptitude can do a reinstall and does the upgrading
[10:47] <Kilos> dont you use aptitude magespawn
[10:48] <Kilos> i think apt-get needs --reinstall at the end
[10:51] <magespawn> just been getting used to using comman line on the server i just set up
[10:51] <magespawn> i get most of the info from the web
[10:51] <Kilos> oh dont they have aptitude
[10:52] <Kilos> first thing i do onna new install is install aptitude
[10:52] <magespawn> not sure all the website that i saw were using apt-get
[10:53] <Kilos> yeah it seems inetpro and superfly know better
[10:53] <Kilos> i like aptitude
[10:53] <magespawn> they have more experience
[10:53] <inetpro> huh?
[10:54] <Kilos> inetpro, aptitude vs apt-get
[10:54] <nlsthzn> apt-get has super cow powers
[10:54]  * inetpro scrolls up a few meters to read more
[10:54] <Kilos> lol
[10:55] <Kilos> aptitude worked with apparmor magespawn
[10:55] <Kilos> its my synaptic thats doff
[10:57]  * inetpro prefers the all in one functionalities in aptitude
[10:58] <Kilos> aptitude rocks
[10:58] <magespawn> from what i have just read on the net aptitude is a more complete one stop manager
[10:58] <inetpro> just sad that it's not installed by default
[10:58] <inetpro> it's always the first thing I install
[10:58] <Kilos> only one later releases you have to manually install it
[10:59] <Kilos> hmm i type to slow
[11:02] <magespawn> going to get lunch see you in a bit
[11:02] <Kilos> i go make chilli bites bbl
[11:03] <Kilos> ty inetpro
[12:31] <Kilos> inetpro, storm op pad
[12:33] <Kilos> baie donner min reen
[12:41] <magespawn> back from lunch
[12:41] <Kilos> wb magespawn
[12:42] <magespawn> ty
[12:42] <magespawn> all sunshine here
[12:43] <Kilos> magespawn, look at debdelta might even work for faster upgrades
[12:43] <Kilos> saves data for mobile connection users
[12:44] <Kilos> wish i knew about it 2 years ago
[12:45] <magespawn> will have a look although i generally use my adsl
[12:46] <Kilos> yes but i was thinking seeing as it does do the full package download everytime it might be faster as well
[12:53] <Kilos> i mean doesnt download full packages
[12:53] <magespawn> have just read the web page only get the changes
[12:53] <Kilos> yeah thats great hey
[12:58] <Kilos> be back tnite. you all be good
[14:56] <magespawn> later the wife lift is here to take me away
[17:49] <nuvolari> o/


[04:33] <alex57>  I updated from a fine working 12.04 LTS to 12.10 on an old computer and now I can only boot in recovery mode, startx fails. If I try to boot normally I end up with a screen that changes between black, purple and light purple. What can I do to get the GUI back ?
[04:34] <Unit193> You can try and see if nomodeset helps.
[04:34] <Unit193> !nomodeset
[04:37] <alex57> from a command prompt, how would I check nomodeset ?
[04:38] <holstein> alex57: you would do it from boot, as the guide suggests.. from grub
[04:41] <alex57> now the tricky part is how to get to the grub menu...
[04:43] <holstein> alex57: tap shift at boot, and you should be able to enter it there
[04:43] <holstein> i usually try it from a live CD, but im a "look before you leap" kind of guy.. and i *never* do distibution upgrades, except to test the path
[04:44] <alex57> i can briefly see some grub stuff but it soon changes into the list of bootable OSes on the system
[04:46] <holstein> alex57: you can manually edit that if needed via a live CD
[04:46] <holstein> alex57: you should be albe to tap shift, and see the grub menu, that allows you to follow above..
[04:46] <alex57> okay I just noticed the 'c' option in the list of OSes, and now I am at the grub prompt
[04:50] <alex57> the 'e' option lets me edit an entry. SO shall I add nomodeset ?
[04:50] <holstein> alex57: i would read above, and enter the options exactly as stated.. i do it via live CD, so i dont know them off the top of my head, though, if you need me to look at  the link Unit193 gave you, i can
[04:52] <Unit193> e is it, find "nosplash" and it should go around there. Ctrl+x boots, IIRC.
[04:55] <alex57> I will try from a live CD as well...
[05:02] <alex57> holstein: if I do it from a live CD the setting would apply only to the liveCD session, right ?
[05:12] <alex57> I edited the grub entry for Ubuntu 12.10, inserted a new line with just 'nomodeset' rebooted, but the GUI wouldn't start up. Upon rebooting again, the line that I added was missing...
[05:37] <Unit193> Yes, you are editing the boot options one time, if you reboot rather than boot from there, nogo.
[05:47] <alex57> If that's the case, adding nomodeset didn't seem to help. In the meantime I located my grub configuration file, according to http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/07/how-to-find-where-grub-is-installed-in-ubuntu/ and added nomodeset after quiet, however I still have the same problem: after rebooting and seeing briefly a Lubuntu 12.10 light blue screen, it starts cycling a black screen, then purple, then light purple, forever...
[06:07] <alex57> How can I check if any driver is missing ?
[07:54] <alex57> I am still unable to boot into a desktop manager
[11:46] <iccthedral> I'm having problems with the 13.04 lubuntu on two of my machines. I've installed it from Live-USB and it all goes fine, I'm in my shell, feeling comfortable, aptgetting emacs but it stops with the message that I have unmet dependencies.
[11:47] <iccthedral> Normally, I tried apt-get install -f, doesn't work.
[11:47] <iccthedral> Then I tried many weird solutions that I stumbled on the web, nothing helped at all.
[11:47] <iccthedral> Is anyone having similar problems?
[15:44] <n-iCe> hi
[15:54] <malaphus> Anyone know where 13.04 keeps the lightdm theme XML?  12.10, I believe, was in /usr/share/lightdm-gtk-greeter/greeter.ui but 13.04 doesn't seem to have that
[18:11] <Unit193> malaphus: That file doesn't exist in lubuntu-artwork-13.04 for lightdm, only lxdm.  lightdm-gtk-greeter also doesn't have it, and locate didn't find anything with lightdm or greeter in the name other than the LXDM one.
[19:17] <ajnr> Hi I am not able to resize the launcher icon size after upgrading my system from 12.04 LTS to 12.10. Any one plz let me know how to do? I would like to know also that, What is the most important things I have to do after upgrading , as initially I was not able to get the unity desktop, only mouse pointer it shows. but after I install unity, it shows the desktop icon.
[19:19] <Unit193> ajnr: Please don't cross post, and this isn't really the channel for Unity.
[22:09] <malaphus> Unit193: yeah, i discovered the same, trying to figure out how to re-theme lightdm on 13.04 heh
[22:10] <malaphus> can disable the language selector via the conf file in etc, id like to do some more advanced customizations though
[22:13] <Unit193> theme-name=Name > /usr/share/themes/Name/gtk-3.0/apps/lightdm-gtk-greeter.css
[22:58] <Rarrikins> What package do I need so that lxappearance will have a Window Border tab?
[22:59] <Rarrikins> Never mind. Found it (lxappearance-obconf).
[23:00] <Unit193> Yep, Openbox. :D
[23:34] <Rarrikins> How do I add Shutdown, Reboot, Suspend, and Hibernate to the lubuntu-logout application?
[23:42] <laperriere> any lubuntu experts out there?
[23:56] <Rarrikins> Never mind. Apparently installing policykit-1 fixes it.


[01:34] <BenC> zul: ping
[01:46] <zul> yeah
[01:46] <zul> what did i do wrong? :)
[01:47] <BenC> rofl
[01:47] <BenC> zul: in your patches, ditch the debian/changelog parts
[01:47] <zul> ok
[01:47] <BenC> I manually add those, and I like to keep the patch seperate from the changelog entry
[01:47] <BenC> so it's easier to git-revert, without killing changelog history
[03:23] <zul> i so hate freenode
[03:54] <roh> yay!
[03:54] <roh> http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/davej/cpufreq.git;a=blobdiff;h=cfc4276e670e3eac2ccc2f1c0a81f3258ff8a586;hp=28cc5d524afcd18a2dce1ee4f5ccb3d2c737faf1;hb=f081a529f808ed450c22553de7b3275e0ffde9a0;f=arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-smi.c fixes my bug it seems
[03:55] <zul> roh: already applied to the dapper kernel
[03:56] <roh> zul i didnt check that.. i'm currently clicking my way through the git and am impressed.. what would we do without git..  besides inventing it
[03:57] <roh> i really have to learn how to use that
[03:59] <roh> zul will there be new kernelpackages for dapper also or do i need to built my own?
[04:00] <zul> yes there will be updates dont know when yet
[04:33] <roh> zul can you point me directly to the docs how to exactly rebuild the kernelpackages the way buddha^Wthe allknowing thing wants?
[04:34] <roh> meaning: i'm currently developing a driver and don't want to sacrifice madwifi for example
[05:44] <BenC> all the ppl who build custom kernels from our source are gonna love me now
[05:44] <ajmitch> what did you break? :)
[05:44] <BenC> hehe
[05:45] <BenC> I made it easier to change the ABI, so people don't have to ask a whole lot of questions
[05:46] <BenC> pretty much needed it so I can do daily builds
[05:46] <BenC> the method I am using uses the git hash to create a special abi on the fly
[05:46] <ajmitch> you plan to break ABI that often for edgy?
[05:46] <BenC> keeps ppl from getting stock kernels confused with daily builds, plus it makes it easy to know where in the git tree the build was from
[05:47] <infinity> BenC: Spiffy.
[05:47] <BenC> no, just I don't want to guarantee any ABI syncronizing for daily builds
[05:47] <ajmitch> sounds useful then
[05:47] <BenC> infinity: yo!
[05:47] <BenC> infinity: .43 is awaiting fabbione's blessing for a sparc patch, and is build tested
[05:47] <infinity> Oh, hey, look, 24.42 actually built everywhere.
[05:47] <BenC> infinity: what!?
[05:48] <BenC> use 25.43 for l-r-m
[05:48] <infinity> Was it not meant to? :)
[05:48] <BenC> I thought someone told me it didn't build every :/
[05:48] <infinity> Oh, wait.  I don't see a PPC build.
[05:48] <BenC> yeah, that's the one, ABI failure
[05:49] <BenC> 25.43 is locked waiting for a sparc patch, and fabbione promises to upload at 11am his time
[05:49] <BenC> it was build/boot tested on i386, ppc and amd64
[05:49] <infinity> Okay, so the PPC ABI thing is sorted?
[05:49] <infinity> That's quite the ABI change...
[05:49] <infinity> Why did you pull that serial stuff out of vmlinux?
[05:50] <infinity> Won't that bugger early output on serial terminals?
[05:50] <infinity> Or should openfirmware provice console/serial emulation until the driver kicks in?
[05:51] <infinity> (serial booting on my machine, like just about anything else on an OldWorld, doesn't work for beans, so I don't actually know how OF deals with it)
[06:02] <fabbione> morning
[06:02] <fabbione> BenC, infinity: yes max 11am UTC
[06:02] <fabbione> BenC: so i pull and another ABI bump???
[06:10] <fabbione> infinity: ok i have the stuff from BenC
[06:10] <fabbione> BenC: good night dude
[06:23] <BenC> infinity: because of 8250 is loaded, PMACZILOG cannot work, so I had to take 8250 out as a module
[06:24] <fabbione> BenC: i got all your stuff..
[06:24] <fabbione> i think at least ;)
[06:24] <BenC> good deal
[06:24] <BenC> yeah, it's pushed, and should be all ready for you
[06:24] <fabbione> linux-source-2.6.15 (2.6.15-25.43) dapper-security; urgency=low
[06:24] <fabbione>   * bcm43xx dma mask handling (> 1GB memory)
[06:24] <fabbione>   - Add powerpc IOMMU handlers for dma masks
[06:24] <fabbione>   - Sync updates to amd64 IOMMU to handle dma masks
[06:24] <fabbione>   * Sync ide changes for better flash driver handling (flash isn't removable).
[06:24] <fabbione>  -- Ben Collins<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 08:16:30 -0400
[06:24] <fabbione> that's all i have here...
[06:24] <fabbione> can you confirm?
[06:25] <fabbione> i still have the powerpc.ignore file
[06:25] <fabbione> that can go away
[06:25] <fabbione> but i can do it
[06:28] <fabbione> BenC: how do i git tag the release?
[06:28] <fabbione> BenC: or are you going to do it later?
[06:28] <BenC> just push your final, and I'll retag itr
[06:28] <fabbione> ok works for me
[06:49] <fabbione> BenC: are you also syncing the changes from .15 into .17?
[07:16] <BenC> yep
[07:16] <BenC> I pull from dapper to edgy to make sure we keep everything in sync
[07:16] <BenC> it's nice
[07:18] <BenC> dpkg-deb: building package `linux-headers-2.6.17-2-f23859-386' in `../linux-headers-2.6.17-2-f23859-386_2.6.17-2.2_i386.deb'.
[07:18] <BenC> sweetness
[07:26] <fabbione> wth..
[07:27] <fabbione> BenC: btw can you pull from my edgy tree?
[07:27] <fabbione> it's a simple change in the control files for the cluster suite
[07:34] <BenC> ok
[07:34] <BenC> let me push later so you can merge and repush
[07:44] <fabbione> ok sure
[08:16] <fabbione> BenC: [    0.829976]  BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#2!
[08:16] <fabbione> i get tons of these for different CPU with .17-1.1
[08:16] <fabbione> (sparc)
[01:56] <zul> hola
[02:49] <mjg59> BenC: If we're going to shift to libata pata drivers, we probably want to do it soon
[02:49] <mjg59> Some of them are going to need testing
[03:30] <fabbione> BenC: please pull from both my dapper and edgy tree.
[03:30] <fabbione> BenC: dapper is uploaded and building. Please no more uploads till sparc is released
[03:30] <fabbione> BenC: otherwise we look fine.
[05:10] <zul> BenC: #45679 ill update the driver tonight if thats ok?
[05:11] <BenC> which driver?
[05:11] <zul> arcmsr
[05:12] <BenC> sure thing
[05:13] <BenC>     [UBUNTU:arcmsr]  Update to latest patches in -mm tree.
[05:13] <BenC> that's the last place I got patches from
[05:13] <BenC> make sure it's the same set of stuff
[05:13] <zul> sure..i was going to get it from the vendor apparently it works according to the bug reports
[05:14] <BenC> <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:15] <BenC> it says it was fixed in 1.20.0X.12, and we have the above version
[05:15] <BenC> that's a little odd
[05:15] <zul> yeah..
[05:15] <zul> ill look into it tonight then
[05:16] <BenC> <IP_ADDRESS>    9/30/2005       Erich Chen     bug fix with 64bit platform's ccbs using if over 4G system memory
[05:16] <BenC> that's in our ChangeLog.arcmsr
[05:16] <zul> just a sec..
[05:16] <BenC> Documentation/scsi/ChangeLog.arcmsr
[05:16] <BenC> and that was from the patches from -mm
[05:18] <zul> of course the vendor website has to be down
[05:25] <zul> BenC: thats in BenC yeah thats just weird
[05:26] <zul> what the hell?
[05:26] <ajmitch> blame the keyboard gremlins
[05:27] <zul> i blame the irq between my brain and keyboard
[05:32] <zul> BenC: are you going to be in paris?
[05:32] <BenC> yep
[05:32] <zul> coool..
[05:33] <zul> have fun i wont be
[06:53] <zul> when are the security updates going to show up?
[07:53] <mkrufky> i spoke to the DViCO systems engineer....   Bug #12162 is bogus. the "fix" from that bug causes bug #33096, which is valid.  The fix would be to revert ubuntu git commit 3a580f39df8937f54976b2e7ce2ef54294da06f9 .....  I have added the appropriate comments to those bugs on launchpad.net
[07:56] <mkrufky> BenC: should I send you a patch to revert that commit?  ...or are the launchpad.net comments enough?
[07:56] <BenC> mkrifky: Yes, please
[07:56] <BenC> mkrufky even
[07:56] <mkrufky> :-)
[08:17] <mkrufky> BenC: oh, man.... i just finished cloning ubuntu-2.6.git , and it seems that the bogus commit got automagically reverted as a result of a pull from upstream
[08:17] <mkrufky> however, ubuntu-dapper.git still has the bogus patch
[08:18] <mkrufky> i guess i'll have to re-clone from the dapper tree
[08:28] <fabbione> BenC: please hold any dapper uploads please :)
[08:32] <BenC> fabbione: wont be doing dapper again till after paris
[08:33] <fabbione> BenC: kthx :)
[08:38] <dilinger> meh, i wanted to go to paris :(
[08:39] <zul> join the club
[08:39] <zul> whats with these ubuntu conferences when the city speak french?
[08:42] <fabbione> zul: hopefully the last one :)
[08:42] <zul> hehe
[08:43] <zul> ill go to the next one
[08:43] <zul> only if they dont speak french ;)
[08:45] <dilinger> i was expecting work to send me to this one
[08:45] <dilinger> but things at work aren't going so well
[08:45] <dilinger> so.. *shrug*, doesn't look like it's going to happen
[08:47] <mkrufky> BenC: ok, i uploaded the fix to launchpad bug #33096
[09:15] <zul> fabbione: where can i get the sparc iso?
[09:43] <zul> later
[09:55] <kimo> sorry for being n00b, but when it says '2.6.17-1.1' is released, it means released in the git tree only, right ? (no debs?)
[09:57] <crimsun_> it means it was uploaded.  [https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edgy-changes/2006-June/000040.html]
[09:59] <kimo> would this new version, include fixes commited to the offcial dapper kernel ?
[09:59] <kimo> like the recent fixes to my sky2 driver ?
[10:00] <roh> oh.. edgy already started?
[10:01] <kimo> roh: yeah :) ubuntu+1
[10:01] <crimsun_> kimo: see the sky2-related commits at http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git;a=shortlog
[10:02] <roh> then i hope soon somebody takes the time to make rootfs via uuid working
[10:04] <kimo> crimsun_: thanks, great :) I am still not sure if there is a 'nightly build' deb package I can install to get those fixes 'now' ?? (or should I compile from a git tree) ?
[10:05] <crimsun_> kimo: I presume the URL mentioned in [https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-June/000150.html]  will be populated
[10:08] <kimo> ohh cool :) bcollins makes a daily build system, which is unfortunately empty ;) http://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/kernels-daily/
[10:09] <kimo> ok I found the deb in upper dir http://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/
[10:11] <kimo> downloading, thanks ;)
[10:49] <roh> mmmh.. should i build from linux-source-2.6.15 or from the sourcepackage for linux-image-2.6.15-23-386 ?
[10:50] <crimsun_> the latter.
[10:51] <roh> tnx
[10:53] <roh> which way of packaging is the recommended then? via make-kpkg or dpkg-buildpackage?
[10:54] <crimsun_> either, depending on whether you want to use the infrastructure. If you're not sure, choose the latter.
[10:55] <mkrufky> roh: are you rebuilding your kernel right now just for the sake of the dvb development?
[10:56] <mkrufky> roh: that hg repo i told you about is backwards compatible with older kernels
[10:56] <mkrufky> so... if that's what you're doing.... you can save yourself some time
[10:56] <roh> mkrufky no.. mostly because speedstep does not work with dapper release on my tp-x20
[10:56] <mkrufky> ah, okay
[10:57] <roh> and i want piix ide fixed in the kernel since its the rootfs, and the initrd sometimes loads the sii-ide before piix and my root is  hde then ;)
[10:59] <mkrufky> ok -- valid reasons  ;-)
[11:02] <kimo> roh: u might want a newer prebuilt from http://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/ ?
[11:03] <roh> kimo if there is enough source with it to build other modules later which need a working makefrile from a kerneltree
[11:27] <BenC> roh: speedstep will be fixed for you in the next kernel update for dapper
[11:38] <roh> BenC is there a package which gives me a /lib/modules/`uname -r`/source symlink to working makefiles and headers for building external drivers which depend on headers of existing drivers?
[11:38] <BenC> lol
[11:39] <BenC> apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[11:42] <roh> i know that package.. but it does not contain tda1004x.h for example, which i need for my driver since the attach function for this demod is declared there
[11:43] <roh> hm.. but... forget it.. i propably just compile the whole dvb stuff from hg, so i can use the header from there...
[11:44] <BenC> roh: linux-source-2.6.15
[11:45] <roh> BenC do you know when the new packages get out?
[11:47] <BenC> the dapper 2.6.15 update, or edgy 2.6.17?
[11:47] <BenC> well, either will be available within a day or two
[11:47] <roh> dapper.. for now i'll propably stay with dapper, even if i'd like the new kernel.. its a 600mhz tp-x21.. no fun with a few hundred updates every week
[11:52] <mkrufky> roh: seriously -- dont worry about the dvb frontend sources in the ubuntu kernel... you REALLY need to use the hg stuff
[11:52] <mkrufky> roh: you should work within the hg v4l-dvb tree on linuxtv.org
[11:53] <mkrufky> otherwise you're going to have a real pain once you're ready to merge your new driver
[11:53] <mkrufky> ... (or I will)
[11:58] <mkrufky> roh: i'm leaving now... if you need help later with the hg stuff, i'll be back in #linuxtv in a few hours
[11:58] <mkrufky> bye all


[18:24] <emgent> @now
[18:24] <ubotu> Current time in Etc/UTC: January 29 2008, 18:24:24 - Next meeting: Edubuntu meeting in 17 hours 35 minutes
[18:25] <keescook> hm, I don't see the server-team meeting on the Fridge (I know that's at 2100 UTC on Wed)
[18:25] <emgent> uhm
[18:50] <keescook> #startmeeting
[18:50] <MootBot> Meeting started at 18:50. The chair is keescook.
[18:50] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[18:50] <keescook> [IDEA] mootbot is cool
[18:50] <MootBot> IDEA received:  mootbot is cool
[18:51] <keescook> [LINK] mootbot is documented at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScribesTeam/MootBot
[18:51] <MootBot> LINK received:  mootbot is documented at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScribesTeam/MootBot
[18:51] <keescook> [TOPIC] kees is testing mootbot
[18:51] <MootBot> New Topic:  kees is testing mootbot
[18:51] <keescook> [ACTION] kees will end the meeting
[18:51] <MootBot> ACTION received:  kees will end the meeting
[18:51] <keescook> #endmeeting
[18:51] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 18:51.
[18:59] <highvoltage> where do the meeting "logs" from MootBot get sent to?
[19:00] <keescook> highvoltage: they appear to be sent here: http://kryten.incognitus.net/mootbot/meetings/ubuntu-meeting.20080129_1850.html
[19:00] <keescook> or rather, http://kryten.incognitus.net/mootbot/meetings/?C=M;O=D
[19:01] <keescook> I found the docs for MootBoot and added the link to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[19:53] <nealmcb> @schedule denver
[19:53] <ubotu> Schedule for America/Denver: 30 Jan 05:00: Edubuntu meeting | 30 Jan 13:00: Security Team | 30 Jan 14:00: Server Team | 01 Feb 13:00: MOTU | 13 Feb 15:30: Forum Council | 19 Feb 18:00: TriLoCo-Midwest
[19:55] <emgent> @schedule rome
[19:55] <ubotu> Schedule for Europe/Rome: 30 Jan 13:00: Edubuntu meeting | 30 Jan 21:00: Security Team | 30 Jan 22:00: Server Team | 01 Feb 21:00: MOTU | 13 Feb 23:30: Forum Council | 20 Feb 02:00: TriLoCo-Midwest
[20:01] <mdz_> #startmeeting
[20:01] <MootBot> Meeting started at 20:01. The chair is mdz_.
[20:01] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[20:02] <mdz_> This is the bi-weekly meeting of the Ubuntu Technical Board
[20:02] <mdz_> however, I'm not sure we'll have a quorum tonight
[20:02] <mdz_> Keybuk and sabdfl are both unavailable, and I've been unable to reach mjg59
[20:03] <Mithrandir> > LANG=C TZ=Australia/Sydney date
[20:03] <Mithrandir> Wed Jan 30 07:03:07 EST 2008
[20:03] <Mithrandir> somehow, I don't think mjg59 is awake at this hour
[20:03] <mdz_> oh, he's at LCA?
[20:03] <mdz_> I think the meeting is doomed then
[20:04] <Mithrandir> yes, he is.
[20:04] <mdz_> the only agenda item is from TheMuso, who may be at LCA as well
[20:04]  * TheMuso isn't.
[20:04] <mdz_> TheMuso: I owe you an apology on behalf of the TB for your early morning, then :-/
[20:05] <TheMuso> mdz_: Its fine, I'm usually up and about at this time anyway, so its no great loss.
[20:05] <mdz_> we can't review your application without a quorum
[20:05] <TheMuso> I understand.
[20:05] <mdz_> I'll follow up via email and see what we can arrange
[20:05] <TheMuso> Ok, fine by me.
[20:07] <mdz_> ok, my apologies again
[20:07] <mdz_> #endmeeting
[20:07] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 20:07.


[21:40] <barry> smoser, harlowja https://code.launchpad.net/~barry/cloud-init/py2-3/+merge/247239/comments/612536
[21:41] <barry> smoser, harlowja we have py3 support
[21:41] <harlowja> woot
[21:41] <harlowja> time to party like its 1999
[21:41] <harlowja> h
[21:41] <harlowja> *ha
[21:41]  * barry fires up the prince
[21:43] <smoser> barry, awesome. theres a couple other mps that i have to pull in
[21:43] <smoser> but we'll hope for a vivid uploda tommorrow
[21:43] <smoser> and thakn you
[21:43] <barry> smoser: oh yeah, i shoudl probably do a merge from trunk too
[21:44] <smoser> please. :)
[21:53] <harmw> new version out soon smoser ?
[21:54] <smoser> harmw, maybe.
[21:54] <smoser> you're wanting one for freebsd ?
[21:54] <harmw> yup
[21:54] <harmw> since then I'm able to push out a new port
[21:55] <harmw> with the latest fixe
[21:59] <smoser> k
[22:02] <barry> man, the patchOS stuff really wreaks havoc with things
[22:03] <harlowja> lol
[22:04]  * harlowja i take the blame :-P
[22:04] <barry> ;)  maybe i fixed it tho
[22:05] <barry> you'll have to get out of the habit of using self.makeDir() :)
[22:06] <barry> smoser, harlowja trunk merged
[22:07] <harlowja> cool
[22:08] <barry> i'll work on py26 now, but i'm ascairt
[23:41] <harlowja> thx barry :)
[23:41] <harlowja> py26 sorta important for some of us (for a litt;e while longer)


[17:31] <Elliria> Hey there. If I have a suggestion for improving the informative text on in the the "Additional Drivers" tab in Software Sources, what package would I file an enhancement bug on?
[22:20] <bdmurray> Elliria: software-properties