[12:08] <happy> OOD: hm, is there any quick way how to fix it ? i do want to go throug the ati how-to hell ...
[12:08] <cpk2> the_hammer: you untarred into that folder?
[12:09] <ironfroggy> how can i move a partition backward in the drive? it has 2 gig of freespace between it and the previous partition.
[12:10] <the_hammer> ya
[12:10] <OOD> happy: i don't know, i have an nVidia card and haven't had any experience with ATi cards yet
[12:10] <the_hammer> everything is unzipped just fighting with it now
[12:10] <happy> OOD: hm, thank you again, i will check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI again :/
[12:10] <the_hammer> yesterday i type /configure and it did stuff today i do it and its not doing anything
[12:13] <happy> to all: i have lost desktop icons (home etc.), is there any way to get them back ? thank you
[12:13] <the_hammer> man this is driving me nuts says make install and that will install it where it is
[12:13] <the_hammer> i must be missin something
[12:13] <happy> i lost them after update
[12:14] <cpk2> the_hammer: make config do anything?
[12:14] <OOD> happy: right click desktop->create new->link to location
[12:15] <the_hammer> desont sdeem to
[12:15] <the_hammer> seem*
[12:15] <the_hammer> baa
[12:15] <the_hammer> it doesnt seem to
[12:16] <OOD> happy: :/media is like my computer in windows, i system:/remote is your network
[12:16] <OOD> and for home, just write in your home directory /home/username
[12:17] <cpk2> what does it say when you do ./config?
[12:17] <cpk2> err ./configure
[12:17] <happy> OOD: i know about it, but there is no way how to get it back in general ?
[12:18] <the_hammer> get a box pops up
[12:18] <happy> OOD: before kubuntu update, there were OK, after update, i lost them, so i decided to delete my .kde profile :)
[12:18] <OOD> any other desktop icons should be there
[12:18] <the_hammer> cant find or something likev that
[12:19] <happy> OOD: my desktop is clear, without any icons
[12:20] <OOD> happy: any at all? then i think they were all shortcuts, you'll just have to make then again by copying from the K-menu or just remaking them manually
[12:20] <the_hammer> is there away i can access it in terminal
[12:21] <Cornellius> I'm looking for a book or a doc that will tell me how Linux works internally. I already have some books, but all they tell are the commands, how to do the same as in Windows, how to configure Grub, Xorg, etc. Anyone have some good suggestions ?
[12:21] <happy> OOD: after installation they were OK, after update they disappeared :/
[12:22] <the_hammer> install it and give it a try and throw the books aside :)
[12:23] <the_hammer> best way to learn something is hop in with both feet and dont look back look forward :)
[12:24] <will> hey guys, just curious.  when you need SU permission to do something (like install a plugin) why doesn't it just ask for the SU password in the GUI?  can you set itup to do that?
[12:24] <cpk2> the_hammer: ./configure doesnt work in the folder where you untarred eggdrop?
[12:24] <Cornellius> The kind of book that will let me understand, LFS, Gentoo, ArchLinux, etc
[12:24] <the_hammer> nope
[12:24] <cpk2> whats the error?
[12:24] <the_hammer> ive been trying
[12:24] <the_hammer> says couldnt find it and to check the spelling
[12:25] <the_hammer> but how am i spelling it wrong /configure
[12:25] <cpk2> period before the /
[12:25] <cpk2> ./configure
[12:25] <the_hammer> nope
[12:26] <the_hammer> no period
[12:26] <cpk2> put a period
[12:26] <the_hammer> ok
[12:26] <the_hammer> nothing
[12:27] <cpk2> what did it say?
[12:27] <the_hammer> nothing
[12:27] <LjL> let me guess, you're trying to compile eggdrop.
[12:27] <cpk2> try make config now
[12:27] <the_hammer> but when i type /configure it goes uptop in the box says location
[12:28] <the_hammer> same there to
[12:28] <the_hammer> got the tabs uptop right?
[12:28] <LjL> box? location?
[12:28] <the_hammer> ya
[12:28] <LjL> aren't you in a shell?
[12:28] <cpk2> you could just empty out the folder and untar it again
[12:28] <the_hammer> and where it says location is where what i type goes into
[12:28] <cpk2> you arent in a terminal?
[12:28] <the_hammer> nope
[12:29] <cpk2> ...
[12:29] <LjL> i'm not really sure you're nearly in the right place.
[12:29] <cpk2> open in a terminal
[12:29] <the_hammer> so ya want me to delete the folder in usr and re-open rar on desktop?
[12:29] <LjL> and, at the cost of being repetitive, i'm still wondering why you can't use the eggdrop that's in the repos
[12:29] <cpk2> type cd /usr/share/eggdrop
[12:29] <the_hammer> its not in share
[12:29] <cpk2> no the_hammer
[12:30] <the_hammer> oh
[12:30] <cpk2> ok well open a terminal and go to wherever it is
[12:30] <gatekeeper> LjL: did you send me a ubotu message?
[12:30] <the_hammer> ok im there
[12:31] <the_hammer> oem@ubuntu:/usr/eggdrop$
[12:31] <LjL> gatekeeper: yep, i sent you one because you were disconnected by a stupid kiddie using an exploit in #ubuntu
[12:31] <cpk2> now type ./configure
[12:32] <the_hammer> ok
[12:32] <the_hammer> now theres an error
[12:32] <the_hammer> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[12:32] <gatekeeper> LjL: can you please send it again, I didn't realise what was going on
[12:32] <the_hammer> brb
[12:32] <LjL> !exploit
[12:32] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068
[12:32] <cpk2> the_hammer: i just read you need tcl to compile eggdrop
[12:33] <the_hammer> ok
[12:33] <LjL> !b-e
[12:33] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:33] <gatekeeper> LjL: thanks :-)
[12:33] <LjL> if you don't have a C compiler, you don't have build-essential
[12:34] <cpk2> the_hammer: i think apt-get install tcl8.0 is what you want
[12:34] <cpk2> you also might need general-build
[12:35] <cpk2> its not general-build, i forget the name
[12:35] <cpk2> !gcc
[12:35] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:35] <cpk2> build-essential
[12:36] <LjL> yeah, like i just said...
[12:36] <cpk2> heh didnt see that ljl
[12:36] <gatekeeper> LjL: thanx for that, I will sort it.
[12:37] <LjL> gatekeeper: i don't know if that site mentions it, but i recall that lilo said that, as a workaround, you can connect to freenode's port 8001 instead of 6667 and the exploit shouldn't work on you
[12:39] <hoppla> hello, i have a little question... my keyboard stopped working in kubuntu.. but works fine in console and gnome.. and with new user i can use keyboard in kde.. what file do i have to edit/remove to make it normal again ?
[12:41] <gatekeeper> LjL: thanks for that, I have a look at my configuration and see what it is doing.
[12:41] <the_hammer> do this?
[12:41] <the_hammer> sudo apt-get install autoconf
[12:42] <LjL> ?
[12:42] <LjL> no, "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[12:42] <the_hammer> k
[12:42] <cpk2> and i think you will need tlc8.0 i think is what they mean when they say you need tlc to compile
[12:43] <the_hammer> interesting
[12:43] <hoppla> :/
[12:43] <the_hammer> Setting up build-essential (11.1)
[12:43] <cpk2> ?
[12:43] <the_hammer> was last thing it said
[12:43] <the_hammer> so mabe thats all i needed?
[12:44] <the_hammer> sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[12:44] <LjL> probably there's much more needed, like tcl as cpk2 said
[12:44] <the_hammer> ok apt-get work for that to?
[12:44] <cpk2> yes
[12:45] <rysiek|pl> hi guys
[12:45] <cpk2> for tcl it is "sudo apt-get install tcl8.0"
[12:45] <the_hammer> nope didnt work
[12:45] <the_hammer> there we go
[12:45] <rysiek|pl> anybody here uses Kbfx? got some problems with it on Dapper
[12:46] <the_hammer> ok its installed
[12:46] <the_hammer> both those are
[12:46] <the_hammer> ok so now i wanna goto cd usr/eggdrop right?
[12:46] <cpk2> now try ./confige in the eggdrop folder
[12:47] <LjL-Bot> the_hammer: look ma, quick eggdrop bot with no compiling at all and no install build-essential ;)
[12:47] <the_hammer> lol
[12:48] <the_hammer> still same as before so try that in terminal
[12:48] <LjL> oh, i just installed eggdrop from the repositories, copied the default config file (which *is* there, and contained in the eggdrop-data package) and changed 5 or 6 lines of it
[12:48] <LjL> !info eggdrop-data
[12:48] <ubotu> eggdrop-data: Architecture independent files for eggdrop. In repository universe, is extra. Version 1.6.17-3 (dapper), package size 396 kB, installed size 1452 kB
[12:49] <the_hammer> ok now the fun part
[12:49] <posthuman> !acceleration
[12:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about acceleration - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:49] <posthuman> !nvidia
[12:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:49] <the_hammer> says its unable to access the tlc
[12:50] <the_hammer> so have to add that to the ./configure
[12:50] <LjL> you need the dev package
[12:50] <the_hammer> ok whats the command for that 1
[12:50] <LjL> apt-get install tcl8.0-dev
[12:50] <the_hammer> sudo apt-get install dev?
[12:50] <michel_> Anyone using NetworkManager with wifi?
[12:51] <the_hammer> says its already there
[12:51] <Hobbsee> michel_: yeah, knetworkmanager
[12:51] <jbatt> I have a problem getting kubuntu to sync a usb visor neo with kpilot and jpilot
[12:51] <the_hammer> !pastebin
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[12:52] <h3sp4wn>  LjL-Bot: The hammer ?
[12:52] <the_hammer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18311
[12:53] <the_hammer> not my bot nope llol i wish
[12:53] <cpk2> LjL: think though now he will have all these build tools and when he does actually have to compile something he wont be too lost
[12:53] <h3sp4wn>  LjL-Bot: why is mmpeg broken in dapper ?
[12:53] <cpk2> the_hammer: locate tcl
[12:53] <LjL> cpk2: hopefully. but still, i don't see the need for all this trouble, since someone else already went through all that compiling, in order to give Ubuntu a working eggdrop package...
[12:54] <h3sp4wn> LjL-Bot: How do you return it to the way it is by default ?
[12:54] <LjL-Bot> h3sp4wn: i'm a bot, not an oracle
[12:54] <cpk2> the_hammer: you didnt run "sudo apt-get install tcl8.0-dev"
[12:55] <h3sp4wn> LjL-Bot: maybe you could learn from dpkg then to become an oracle
[12:55] <the_hammer> doh
[12:55] <the_hammer> . /usr/lib/gaim/tcl.so
[12:55] <the_hammer> theres a ton of other stuff there to for tcl
[12:55] <the_hammer> yeah i did
[12:55] <cpk2> the_hammer: do sudo apt-get install tcl8.0-dev
[12:55] <the_hammer> i did
[12:55] <the_hammer> but i will again
[12:56] <LjL-Bot> h3sp3wn: ok, i'll try. let's see... "eggdrop" is an ancient Californian word for "i'm a script kiddie".
[12:56] <cpk2> hrmm now that i am looking it seems there is a tcl8.4
[12:56] <LjL-Bot> was that ok?
[12:56] <the_hammer> !pastebin
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[12:57] <the_hammer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18313
[12:57] <cpk2> the_hammer: "sudo apt-get install tcl8.4 tcl8.4-dev tcllib
[12:57] <cpk2> "
[12:57] <cpk2> alright nm you got the 8.0 dev so hopefully that works
[12:57] <the_hammer> ok done
[12:58] <cpk2> try ./configure again
[12:58] <cpk2> btw the_hammerthis is why its nicer using rpms and apt-get
[12:59] <the_hammer> finally!!!!
[12:59] <the_hammer> lol
[12:59] <the_hammer> ok now says this
[12:59] <the_hammer> oops hang on
[12:59] <the_hammer> !pastebin
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[01:01] <the_hammer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18314
[01:02] <cpk2> the_hammer: thats good, do what it tells you =P "make config"
[01:02] <Distro^Junkie> what do I install for kde headers ?
[01:02] <the_hammer> ok how do i do that
[01:02] <Generic> um
[01:02] <Generic> slight problem
[01:02] <the_hammer> You can now compile the bot, using "make".
[01:03] <Generic> i am not able to use the keys to the left of b
[01:03] <the_hammer> ran that in terminal
[01:03] <the_hammer> now what do i do
[01:03] <Generic> i was playing with global hot keys in banshee, and set those keys to do stuff when binded with the windows key
[01:04] <Generic> then those keys stopped working, so i disabled that plugin. but the problem persists
[01:04] <the_hammer> tried to msg ya
[01:04] <Generic> um
[01:04] <Generic> someone say the last letter of linu
[01:04] <the_hammer> ckk2?
[01:05] <the_hammer> msg me
[01:05] <Generic> i am not able to type that letter to join the room :/
[01:05] <the_hammer> oops cpk2 msg me
[01:05] <cpk2> i'm here
[01:06] <cpk2> you do make config
[01:06] <cpk2> and then make
[01:06] <z00m> hi could someone tell me if lynx sould be installed with a default install of kubuntu ?
[01:06] <the_hammer> ok i did that
[01:06] <LjL> z00m: no
[01:06] <the_hammer> still going
[01:06] <h3sp4wn> z00m: I prefer elinks
[01:06] <the_hammer> so not done "make" yet
[01:06] <cpk2> after make do make install destination
[01:06] <the_hammer> thought it was lol
[01:07] <the_hammer> ok
[01:07] <h3sp4wn> the_hammer: ever tried using imake ?
[01:07] <the_hammer> nope
[01:07] <z00m> LjL & h3sp4wn its just that i noticed it and never recall installing it, its just making me think someone rooted my box
[01:07] <the_hammer> so it be make install destination usr/eggdrop
[01:07] <the_hammer> ?
[01:08] <LjL> z00m: well there are a few packages that depends on lynx, so it could have been installed without you noticing
[01:08] <h3sp4wn> z00m: I think it maybe unlikely but possible
[01:08] <LjL> z00m: apt-cache rdepends lynx
[01:08] <the_hammer> cpk2?
[01:08] <the_hammer>  make install destination usr/eggdrop is this right?
[01:08] <Distro^Junkie> hmmm there is no kdelibs-dev for kde 3.5.2 ?
[01:09] <LjL> Distro^Junkie: it's called kdelibs4-dev
[01:09] <z00m> is there a paste bin so i can show you the output
[01:09] <the_hammer> yes
[01:09] <z00m> !pastebin
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[01:09] <the_hammer> !pastebin
[01:09] <LjL> z00m: no need
[01:09] <z00m> ;)
[01:09] <Generic> so
[01:09] <LjL> z00m: the output is the same as on my computer
[01:09] <Generic> anyone know how to get my keys to work again?
[01:09] <LjL> z00m: it just lists the packages that depend on lynx
[01:10] <z00m> ah right
[01:10] <mcscruff> i have written a small app that generates a huge file but it wont create one over 2gb.. can anyone help
[01:10] <Generic> i'm sorta trying to work in konsole
[01:10] <LjL> z00m: if you installed any of them, that would explain why lynx is installed
[01:10] <Distro^Junkie> LjL: yes but that is trying to pull in alot of deps for kde 4
[01:10] <the_hammer> LjL is this right command
[01:10] <the_hammer>  make install destination usr/eggdrop
[01:10] <Distro^Junkie> nm
[01:10] <LjL> z00m: or, you could just try "sudo aptitude remove lynx" (and then answer "no" when asked if you really want to remove) to see if any installed packages depend on it
[01:10] <cpk2> its /usr/
[01:10] <Distro^Junkie> doh!!
[01:10] <cpk2> its important to have the first /
[01:10] <the_hammer> make install destination usr <--so like this
[01:11] <z00m> LjL: ok ill try that
[01:11] <the_hammer> oops
[01:11] <LjL> the_hammer: i don't know. normally the command would be just "make install", with the destination having being defined by a "./configure" option. but i suppose the eggdrop Makefile may be different
[01:11] <cpk2> i suppose if you are in the folder it will probably make install in that folder
[01:11] <z00m> p0rn-comfort
[01:11] <z00m>     lynx-cur
[01:11] <z00m>  |octave2.1-htmldoc
[01:11] <cpk2> so mkae install will probably work
[01:11] <z00m> whats that, thats in my list
[01:11] <LjL> the_hammer: and i'm not sure but i think cpk2 meant that you type "make install /usr/whatever", without the "destination" text
[01:12] <z00m> with apt-cache rdepends lynx
[01:12] <cpk2> the_hammer: just try make install
[01:12] <z00m> i aint got time for porn, to busy learning perl ... lol
[01:13] <the_hammer> Remember to change directory to /home/oem/eggdrop before you proceed.
[01:13] <z00m> should that be there ?
[01:13] <the_hammer> what do i do now?
[01:13] <LjL> z00m: yeah, it's in my list too. quite normal. it's a package with a... debatable... name
[01:13] <h3sp4wn> perl is cool good language to learn
[01:13] <LjL> z00m: apt-cache show p0rn-comfort
[01:13] <z00m> ah thats ok then :D
[01:13] <cpk2> the_hammer: you do make install?
[01:13] <LjL> z00m: as long as it isn't actually installed...
[01:13] <the_hammer> yup
[01:13] <h3sp4wn> LjL: Do you think hot-babe should go into kubuntu ?
[01:13] <the_hammer> and the destination
[01:13] <the_hammer> then said this afterwards
[01:13] <the_hammer> Remember to change directory to /home/oem/eggdrop before you proceed.
[01:13] <Distro^Junkie> man alot of deps to try and build amarok from svn
[01:14] <cpk2> maybe it has to be in the home dir
[01:14] <LjL> h3sp4wn: well perhaps not in main ;)
[01:14] <the_hammer> ok so how do i move it
[01:14] <mcscruff> i have written a small app that generates a huge file but it wont create one over 2gb.. can anyone help
[01:14] <the_hammer> from usr
[01:15] <h3sp4wn> LjL: But I thought ubuntu included just what most people want ?
[01:15] <cpk2> you dont need to just do make install /home/oem/eggdrop
[01:16] <LjL> h3sp4wn: if it did, then it'd include the actual porn
[01:16] <cpk2> anyone have any idea how to use phpbb2-conf-mysql?
[01:18] <z00m> LjL: just tryed sudo aptitude remove lynx its just removed it without any questions about yes or no
[01:18] <the_hammer> something screwey here
[01:18] <the_hammer> !pastebin
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[01:18] <LjL> z00m: well, i think it's a bit excessive to deduce hackage just from that
[01:18] <Blizzz> gn8
[01:18] <LjL> z00m: anyway i suggest you install chkrootkit and rkhunter, and run them
[01:18] <mikmu> Fresh install of kubuntu 6.06 on toshiba satellite 1905.  Everything installed perfectly, except I'm having alot of trouble configuring dual-head
[01:19] <z00m> LjL: ok thanks
[01:19] <mikmu> My vid card is too old to be supported by the ati drivers, so I'm using the xorg radeon drivers
[01:19] <the_hammer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18316
[01:19] <LjL> mcscruff: http://www.suse.de/~aj/linux_lfs.html
[01:20] <mikmu> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg only detects one monitor, not both...is there a utility to detect video settings and set up dual-head for me?
[01:21] <cpk2> the_hammer: the first install already installed it in /home/oem/eggdrop it looks like just navigate over there and edit the conf file accordingly
[01:22] <the_hammer> ok
[01:22] <h3sp4wn> LjL: I think someone needs to start an uncrypled repo for all the ubuntu stiff like mmeg but compatib;e
[01:23] <h3sp4wn> LjL: uncrypled multi media repo
[01:23] <LjL> well i'm not much into multimedia things, but isn't that a bit like what the penguin liberation front and other repos do
[01:25] <z00m> LjL: just ran chkrootkit and found nothing, then ran rkhunter and its says this
[01:25] <LjL> !pastebin
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[01:25] <z00m> just showing the warning
[01:26] <the_hammer> im noit sure how to run it
[01:26] <the_hammer> why do i get unknown commands?
[01:26] <cpk2> the conf file should explain what entry does what
[01:26] <z00m> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18317
[01:26] <LjL> z00m: yep, if it's just one line long just paste it here
[01:26] <LjL> z00m: anyway a few warnings like /dev/.udev are normal
[01:27] <cpk2> i have never used eggdrop so dont look at me
[01:27] <z00m> here ill just post the warning then
[01:27] <z00m> Scanning for hidden files...
[01:27] <LjL> z00m: the pastebin looks alright
[01:27] <z00m> [ Warning! ]
[01:27] <z00m>  /dev/.static
[01:27] <z00m> /dev/.udev
[01:27] <z00m> /dev/.initramfs
[01:27] <z00m> /dev/.initramfs-tools /etc/.pwd.lock
[01:27] <LjL> yeah but that's normal, because ubuntu *has* some hidden dirs by default
[01:28] <z00m> ok ;)
[01:28] <the_hammer> hiw do i run the bot
[01:28] <cpk2> try "eggdrop"
[01:29] <LjL> z00m: mind you, that chkrootkit and rkhunter don't find anything does *not* mean you're not rooted. though on the other hand, i can see no substantial reasons to seriously believe you *are* rooted either
[01:29] <the_hammer> bash: eggdrop: command not found
[01:29] <z00m> LjL: you got nmap ?
[01:30] <LjL> z00m: yea
[01:30] <Raven301> !compiz
[01:30] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:30] <Raven301> !xcompmgr
[01:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about xcompmgr - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:30] <z00m> if you have got got time just scan me IP and check if the firewall leeks anything out, im on a internal network with an ADSL router
[01:31] <z00m> in fact i could just test that with a online firewall tester
[01:31] <cpk2> the_hammer: ./eggdrop -m configfile
[01:31] <the_hammer> bash: ./eggdrop: is a directory
[01:32] <cpk2> are you in the eggdrop folder?
[01:32] <the_hammer> doh
[01:32] <z00m> LjL: full complete scan with rkhuter http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18318
[01:32] <z00m> hunter^
[01:33] <the_hammer> [18:33]  --- Loading eggdrop v1.6.18 (Tue Jul 18 2006)
[01:33] <the_hammer> [18:33]  * CONFIG FILE NOT LOADED (NOT FOUND, OR ERROR)
[01:33] <the_hammer> what the hell
[01:34] <Hawkwind> z00m: That scan is perfectly normal
[01:34] <profoX`> the_hammer: have you created/edited the config file?
[01:34] <cpk2> when i said configfile i meant to use the name of the conf file you have
[01:34] <Hawkwind> z00m: I get the same exact stuff as I run rkhunter, clamav, and chkrootkit via a script with cron every day
[01:34] <z00m> Hawkwind: ok thanks for taking the time to check it out for me, i just noticed lnux installed on my box when i never remember installing it
[01:35] <z00m> lynx^
[01:35] <the_hammer> not sure
[01:35] <cpk2> wondering if anyone could help me setting up phpbb2? tried running phpbb2-conf-mysql but it doesnt seem to want to work
[01:36] <the_hammer> i put this at the top of it #! /home/oem/eggdrop
[01:36] <LjL> z00m: All 1679 scanned ports on host81-155-79-155.range81-155.btcentralplus.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) are filtered
[01:37] <the_hammer> defult says #! /path/to/executable/eggdrop
[01:37] <z00m> LjL: thats good then
[01:37] <the_hammer> thats all ive done to it so far
[01:37] <z00m> thanks for taking the time to check it out for me
[01:38] <the_hammer> and from the location says bash: eggdrop: command not found
[01:39] <LjL> to me /home/oem/eggdrop seems more like the name of a directory than that of a command
[01:39] <the_hammer> yeah thast where it is but efggdrop should run
[01:39] <the_hammer> oops eggdrop
[01:40] <LjL> the_hammer: if it's expecting a *command* rather than a directory (and "command not found" makes me thing exactly that), for sure it won't work with a directory
[01:40] <cpk2> LjL: couldnt you just check your conf? =P
[01:40] <the_hammer> ok and when i open terminal and just put in eggdrop that dont work ither
[01:41] <LjL> cpk2: my conf starts with #! /usr/bin/eggdrop
[01:41] <cpk2> you need to open a terminal then go to the eggdrop dir and then do ./eggdrop to run it
[01:41] <LjL> i mean #!/usr/bin/eggdrop
[01:42] <the_hammer> ahh
[01:42] <LjL> anyway "my" conf is just the standard conf that comes with Ubuntu, except the server is set to freenode, the nickname is changed and the two "die" lines are commented out
[01:43] <the_hammer> man im lost
[01:43] <the_hammer> im at this /home/oem/eggdrop
[01:44] <the_hammer> typed ./configure
[01:44] <the_hammer> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[01:44] <cpk2> sorry the_hammer its ./configure conffile
[01:44] <LjL> ?
[01:44] <LjL> conffile being?
[01:44] <the_hammer> same thing
[01:44] <cpk2> the name of the .conf file
[01:45] <LjL> of the eggdrop.conf file? hell no
[01:45] <the_hammer> eggdrop.conf
[01:45] <Lord_Athur> hi kubuntu guys, I've got a doubt, how do i earn karma?
[01:45] <cpk2> oops not ./configure
[01:45] <cpk2> i wasnt paying attention
[01:45] <cpk2> ./eggdrop heh
[01:45] <LjL> Lord_Athur: sorry?
[01:45] <the_hammer> lol
[01:45] <unix_infidel> Lord_Athur: help other people in the forums.
[01:45] <Lord_Athur> ok, thanks
[01:45] <unix_infidel> ya tool.
[01:46] <the_hammer> [18:45]  --- Loading eggdrop v1.6.18 (Tue Jul 18 2006)
[01:46] <the_hammer> [18:45]  * Please make sure you edit your config file completely.
[01:46] <Lord_Athur> isn't it important the work on wikis?
[01:46] <LjL> the_hammer: it's working. now edit the file.
[01:46] <cpk2> so edit it
[01:46] <the_hammer> man if it isnt 1 thing its another
[01:46] <the_hammer> how
[01:46] <the_hammer> i dunno how
[01:46] <cpk2> kate eggdrop.conf
[01:46] <LjL> the_hammer: with a text editor.   by the way, notice that this is the same point where i left you (except you just had to install the "eggdrop" package)?
[01:47] <BKaj> been trying to configure x-cd-roast , but no luck
[01:47] <the_hammer> command not found
[01:47] <BKaj> or the right commands m aybe :)
[01:48] <cpk2> the_hammer: you dont have kate?
[01:48] <the_hammer> guess not says unknown command
[01:49] <cpk2> i would say use vi but that is probably too linuxy for you =P
[01:49] <cpk2> if you want to use vi do vi eggdrop.conf and then press i to start making changes once you are done editing it press esc and then do :wq
[01:50] <unix_infidel> gedit works well if you want something easy.
[01:50] <the_hammer> mabe i should grab that i dunno
[01:50] <the_hammer> i know i need to edit the conf but not sure what to add/remove in it
[01:50] <unix_infidel> apt-get install gedit.
[01:50] <cpk2> or kate
[01:51] <unix_infidel> choose your poison...
[01:51] <unix_infidel> *shrug*
[01:51] <Hawkwind> Most people won't have gedit installed on a Kubuntu system though
[01:51] <cpk2> or both
[01:51] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: That requires most of Gnome though
[01:51] <Hawkwind> Most don't want that, or won't have that
[01:51] <BKaj> what is the configure command ?
[01:51] <Hawkwind> BKaj: ./configure ?
[01:51] <Hawkwind> BKaj: Depends on what you want to configure
[01:51] <LjL> the_hammer: there are instructions in the config file. anyway, it's very strange that you don't have kate, if you have kubuntu. you can also use nano, it's a bit simpler than vi
[01:52] <the_hammer> ubuntu i got
[01:52] <LjL> the_hammer: ah well then it'll be "gedit" not kate
[01:52] <BKaj> x-cd-roast...it says I need to configure it as super user , (sudo )
[01:52] <cpk2> BKaj: sudo ./configure
[01:52] <unix_infidel> BKaj: are you sure it says to configure as  root?
[01:52] <cpk2> in the dir
[01:53] <the_hammer> can just open it like text and add changes
[01:53] <Hawkwind> BKaj: Run it with sudo first
[01:53] <unix_infidel> usually the process is ./configure, make as normal user and make install as root.
[01:53] <LjL> configure as superuser? what are they thinking?
[01:53] <Hawkwind> BKaj: I assume you installed it with apt-get, correct ?
[01:53] <LjL> ... or smoking
[01:53] <unix_infidel> LjL: its not unheard of, but for the application he's mentioned i'm not sure its necessary.
[01:54] <Hawkwind> LjL: x-cd-roast has to be run as root the first time to find all the devices and to set it up for the normal user to run
[01:54] <LjL> BKaj: by the way, just FYI, i see that xcdroast is packaged
[01:54] <BKaj> unix_infidel: no root configuration file found or not readable !
[01:54] <Woosta> Anyone know of a kicker app that works like ubuntu (gnome I guess) places menu?
[01:54] <Hawkwind> It's been that way for years
[01:54] <cpk2> sounds like a cd burning program, might need root to mount and stuff
[01:54] <unix_infidel> BKaj: make sure you are in the proper dir.
[01:54] <Hawkwind> BKaj: I assume you installed it with apt-get, correct ?
[01:54] <the_hammer> how to open the tcl?
[01:54] <BKaj> it's in the k-menu
[01:54] <LjL> Hawkwind: ok but why would the *configure* script have to be run as root, still
[01:54] <Hawkwind> cpk2: Exactly
[01:54] <the_hammer> mabe thats all i need
[01:55] <cpk2> you dont need to open tcl
[01:55] <cpk2> you need to edit the .conf file
[01:55] <Hawkwind> LjL: If you run it as normal user, that's what it tells you.  It doesn't refer to ./configure as root like everyone here is thinking
[01:55] <the_hammer> i dunno what to add in there tho
[01:55] <LjL> Hawkwind: ah, well ok then that's different
[01:55] <cpk2> the .conf file should explain the settings
[01:55] <Hawkwind> sudo apt-get install x-cd-roast  then run it as root user the first time
[01:55] <Woosta> BKaj: if that was to me .. then yes, sort of like the'System Menu' in there .. but I want it outside there and Iwant more options on it :)
[01:56] <Hawkwind> LjL: He's thinking he needs to ./configure when he doesn't
[01:56] <LjL> the_hammer: you just need to set the parameters you'll need. IRC server, IRC network, bot nickname, bot owner, timezone, telnet port, etc. just go through the file and read the instructions
[01:56] <Hawkwind> BKaj: Did you do:  sudo apt-get install xcdroast ?
[01:57] <BKaj> Hawkwind:  E: Couldn't find package x-cd-roast
[01:57] <BKaj> weird
[01:57] <Hawkwind> BKaj: sudo apt-get install xcdroast
[01:58] <Hawkwind> Just like that ^^^^
[01:58] <the_hammer> ok Lj where do i add this eu.undernet.org
[01:58] <BKaj> Hawkwind:  E: Couldn't find package x-cd-roast
[01:58] <vinboy> Xorg is using more and more memory overtime
[01:58] <vinboy> it went to 500mb yesterday
[01:58] <LjL> the_hammer: to the "set servers" section
[01:58] <Hawkwind> BKaj: Listen to what I'm typing please
[01:58] <LjL> BKaj: xcdroast it is
[01:58] <Hawkwind> BKaj: sudo apt-get install xcdroast  <~~~EXACTLY LIKE THAT
[01:59] <BKaj> Iam , I tried that alread ys as you asked
[01:59] <Hawkwind> You put the - in it.  Leave those out
[02:00] <the_hammer> dam i wish i had a notepad that would let me save my txt
[02:00] <LjL> the_hammer: uh... that's exactly what gedit does
[02:00] <BKaj> nop[e , still won't launch
[02:00] <LjL> it's the closest to a notepad equivalent you can have
[02:01] <the_hammer> gonna grab it
[02:01] <BKaj> Hawkwind:   no root configuration file found or not readable !
[02:01] <cpk2> the_hammer: you should have either kate or gedit already
[02:01] <LjL> the_hammer: no. you HAVE it. and you're probably using it right now
[02:01] <Hawkwind> BKaj: sudo xcdroast
[02:01] <Hawkwind> BKaj: You have to run it as root user the first time
[02:01] <unix_infidel> lol, just use ed :)
[02:01] <cpk2> the_hammer: what are you using to edit the conf file right now?
[02:01] <LjL> the_hammer: just type "gedit", or go to the Apps menu and find the text editor (which is still the very same gedit) in Accessories
[02:02] <the_hammer> not sure i just open it selected display
[02:03] <LjL> the_hammer: "display" is probably "display", which implies it only displays and not edit.... i suppose.
[02:04] <the_hammer> it allows me to save changes when i open in display
[02:05] <the_hammer> i found geit btw
[02:05] <the_hammer> ty
[02:05] <the_hammer> ahh your right
[02:05] <the_hammer> just realized when went to open it again its gedit
[02:06] <the_hammer> thats why ima ble to add change/save
[02:06] <the_hammer> imagine that was using it and didnt even notice heh
[02:07] <the_hammer> ou.need.to.change.this:6667
[02:07] <the_hammer>   another.example.com:7000:password
[02:07] <the_hammer> is theta where the undernet goes?
[02:07] <centyx> ah
[02:07] <LjL> centyx: eggdrop bot
[02:07] <LjL> the_hammer: yes
[02:08] <the_hammer> so delete all there them 2 lines?
[02:08] <the_hammer> and then just put undernet server thgere?
[02:08] <the_hammer> there*
[02:08] <the_hammer> or just this part you.need.to.change.this:6667
[02:09] <LjL> yes
[02:09] <LjL> just list the servers you want, and remove anything else
[02:09] <the_hammer> yes what 1 line or both those lines
[02:09] <kbrooks> um
[02:10] <the_hammer> you.need.to.change.this:6667 <----put eu.undernet.org?
[02:10] <LjL> yes.
[02:10] <the_hammer> ok
[02:10] <kyle___> hey, for wine... how do I view the system tray in it or open a program this is in the ystem tray??? (Steam)
[02:11] <the_hammer> what about just below that another.example.com:7000:password <--just leave as is?
[02:13] <LjL> the_hammer: no. have *only* the servers you need listed.
[02:13] <the_hammer> ok
[02:14] <the_hammer> "I.didn't.edit.my.config.file.net" <--just put undernet here right?
[02:14] <nickibenassi> how do i instal amsn
[02:14] <unix_infidel> !amsn
[02:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about amsn - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:14] <the_hammer> undernet.org acutally right?
[02:14] <unix_infidel> nickibenassi: apt-get install amsn
[02:14] <abattoir> !info amsn
[02:14] <unix_infidel> as root or do sudo.
[02:14] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[02:15] <LjL> the_hammer: "UnderNet" i'd say
[02:15] <the_hammer> ok
[02:15] <BKaj> use Kopete
[02:15] <nickibenassi> but amsn is so much better
[02:15] <nickibenassi> just how do i install it
[02:16] <abattoir> nickibenassi: do you have the 'universe' repository enabled/
[02:16] <abattoir> *?
[02:16] <cpk2> nickibenassi: you try apt-get?
[02:16] <nickibenassi> how do i enable that
[02:16] <Hawkwind> kyle___: Have you asked in #WineHQ since that's where the experts on wine are ?
[02:16] <abattoir> !universe
[02:16] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:16] <abattoir> nickibenassi: ^^^^
[02:17] <nickibenassi> i dont know wa ur talking about
[02:17] <unix_infidel> *sigh*
[02:17] <NDPTAL85> What app would I use to make daily full backups of my HD with on Kubuntu? Is one available in the list of packages?
[02:17] <abattoir> nickibenassi: visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:17] <Hawkwind> NDPTAL85: I use a bash script that just does tar'ing of directories
[02:17] <NDPTAL85> Would rsync do it? I've heard some folks mentioning it.
[02:18] <BKaj> nickibenassi: do you know of synaptic or adept pkg managers?
[02:18] <nickibenassi> and now wa
[02:18] <nickibenassi> yes
[02:18] <abattoir> nickibenassi: after you have enabled 'universe', you'd find amsn in the package list
[02:18] <BKaj> it's there
[02:18] <nickibenassi> ok
[02:18] <abattoir> nickibenassi: or, you can install w/ 'sudo apt-get install amsn', i'd recommend doing the former though
[02:18] <NDPTAL85> Hawkwind: Thanks but are there any apps that do it without needing you to write a script?
[02:18] <LjL> NDPTAL85: i think that K / System / Backup system (Keep)   would be it
[02:19] <Hawkwind> NDPTAL85: I'm sure there are.  Not sure what's apt-get'able though
[02:19] <kyle___> Hawkwind: no, I'll head there now, thanks
[02:19] <nickibenassi> how do i enable universe
[02:19] <LjL> !universe
[02:19] <Hawkwind> !universe
[02:19] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:19] <the_hammer> ok where do i find the bots nick name is that where it mentions ;amestbot?
[02:19] <abattoir> nickibenassi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu i've told you twice already
[02:19] <the_hammer> lamest*
[02:19] <foxtrot7> does anybody knows which package i need to install to run quake 2 ?
[02:20] <LjL> the_hammer: well, what does it say where it mentions that?
[02:20] <cpk2> foxtrot7: you try quake2 and quake2-data?
[02:20] <foxtrot7> yeah didn't work...
[02:20] <cpk2> what was wrong with it?
[02:20] <foxtrot7> well didnt found any package
[02:20] <foxtrot7> !
[02:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about ! - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:21] <cpk2> you probably need either universe or multiverse enabled
[02:21] <abattoir> !info quake2
[02:21] <ubotu> quake2: improved version of id Software's Quake II engine. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.3-1.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 1240 kB, installed size 3144 kB
[02:21] <abattoir> foxtrot7: enable multiverse
[02:21] <cpk2> there you go
[02:21] <foxtrot7> how do i do that :-p ?
[02:21] <Hawkwind> !multiverse
[02:22] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:22] <abattoir> foxtrot7: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:22] <cpk2> open up adept and go to manage repositories and uncomment it out
[02:22] <abattoir> :P
[02:22] <posthuman> yes
[02:22] <posthuman> do what cpk said
[02:22] <posthuman> that's easiest
[02:23] <the_hammer> #set owner "^THE_HAMMER^" or ^THE_HAMMER^
[02:23] <Hawkwind> Easiest for some, not to everyone though :)
[02:23] <Hawkwind> Some perfer not to use a GUI package manager at all
[02:23] <cpk2> i prefer editing sources.list in the terminal =)
[02:23] <the_hammer> brb need more coffee
[02:23] <posthuman> that can be confusing for a new user though
[02:23] <posthuman> ;)
[02:23] <Hawkwind> the_hammer: Surely you aren't having that much problem editing that file ?  It tells you exactly what to do for most every line
[02:23] <cpk2> adept is nice for just looking throough packages though
[02:23] <posthuman> point + click = enable is simple enough
[02:23] <posthuman> heh
[02:23] <the_hammer> lol
[02:24] <the_hammer> sometimes ya need barackets others ya dont is only why i asked
[02:24] <LjL> the_hammer: did it have quotes originally?
[02:24] <Hawkwind> Makes you feel like you're still running windows if you do all that :P
[02:24] <the_hammer> had that prob before so tohught id get all that now rather then suffer later
[02:24] <the_hammer> yes it did
[02:24] <the_hammer> so remove those?
[02:25] <the_hammer> said something mr and mrs lamest
[02:25] <Hawkwind> If it had quotes, leave them
[02:25] <the_hammer> ok
[02:25] <Hawkwind> If it didn't, then don't have them
[02:25] <the_hammer> done deal
[02:25] <Hawkwind> Just edit the file as it tells you exactly what to put on each line
[02:27] <LjL> the_hammer: here. yeah leave the quotes, and leave all the formatting as is unless instructed otherwise in the file
[02:29] <posthuman> hmm
[02:30] <foxtrot7> cpk2 I get an error saying it has a broken dependency with libsvga1
[02:30] <posthuman> what's with azureus on kubuntu?  Seems buggy :o..missing tray icon (its just blank)... some buttons don't work, etc.
[02:30] <posthuman> anyone have this problem too?
[02:31] <cpk2> foxtrot7: do you have libsvga1?
[02:31] <foxtrot7> nope
[02:31] <abattoir> posthuman: i think it is a known problem, i had it w/ x86 too...
[02:31] <posthuman> ah ok
[02:31] <abattoir> posthuman: and i've heard lots of people complain about it here too...
[02:31] <posthuman> heh
[02:31] <foxtrot7> cpk2, it doesn t want to install for some reason !
[02:32] <posthuman> it works, as long as I shut azureus down properly..otherwise I get that popup and can't close it
[02:32] <abattoir> posthuman: dont know a solution though :P
[02:32] <posthuman> the tray icon is still blank, but no big deal
[02:32] <posthuman> thanks for the heads up
[02:32] <posthuman> :)
[02:33] <cpk2> foxtrot7: what doesnt want to install?
[02:34] <foxtrot7> libsvga1
[02:46] <SpAwN> hello..im having some issues with the nvidia driver. i have manualy installed them. they all worked fine untill i updated my system the other day.....i thought no big deal just re install the drivers....did that it worked....then i rebooted and the driver wasnt working...i had to manualy edit the xorg.conf to use the vesa driver to get to a x session
[02:47] <viper550> Wanna see my working mockup of what 6.10 should look like?
[02:47] <SpAwN> i then tried to sudo modprobe nvidia.....it returns no errors.....so i assumed it loaded ok....but when i reedit the xorg.conf to use the nvidia driver and restart x it doesnt work
[02:48] <ivis> Help plz how to fix package ?
[02:49] <ivis> Ob ubuntu 6.06
[02:49] <ivis> On
[02:50] <ivis> Please help
[02:53] <kosh> ivis: help with what?
[02:54] <ivis> Im install skype from this web http://www.quotedprintable.com/articles/2006/04/04/curing-skypes-ugliness-on-ubuntu
[02:54] <ivis> and
[02:54] <ivis> the package is broken
[02:54] <ivis> i need remove it
[02:54] <ivis> how to i do this?
[02:54] <ivis> Please help me
[02:55] <Generic> up
[02:55] <Generic> was it a .deb?
[02:55] <kosh> sudo dpkg -r <nameofskypepackage>
[02:55] <ivis> kosh how do i know what is name of the package?
[02:56] <kosh> what did you have to type to install it?
[02:56] <kosh> sorry my computer is too busy right now for me to load that url, it would screw up the tests I have running
[02:57] <ivis> 1 sec please
[02:57] <posthuman> why not just remove it graphically from synaptic?
[02:57] <ivis> wget http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb
[02:57] <ivis> and this
[02:57] <ivis> sudo dpkg -i skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-2_i386.deb
[02:58] <ivis> posthuman i newbie
[02:58] <posthuman> :)
[02:58] <ivis> i don't know how
[02:58] <abattoir> ivis: sudo dpkg -e skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-2_i386.deb
[02:58] <ivis> :)
[02:58] <abattoir> ivis: run that command...
[02:58] <kosh> the package name won't be the same as the .deb file
[02:58] <ivis> i run but it nothing do
[02:58] <ivis> =\
[02:59] <posthuman> wouldnt it be: sudo dpkg -e skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-2
[02:59] <viper550> Would you like a preview of sorts to what Edgy is going to look like?
[02:59] <posthuman> i think
[02:59] <kosh> viper550: sure
[02:59] <viper550> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas
[02:59] <posthuman> you can also open synaptic from your menu *its in there somewhere :P* ... and with the little search box type 'skype'
[02:59] <ivis> i got this when
[02:59] <abattoir> ivis: 'sudo apt-get remove skype' works for me
[02:59] <ivis> ivis@ivis-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg -e skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-2_i386.deb
[02:59] <ivis> ivis@ivis-desktop:~$
[02:59] <posthuman> then right click and request removal
[02:59] <posthuman> ah i think it removed then
[03:00] <eXCeSS> anyone? dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[03:00] <viper550> The last one is my mockup, and you can download the color scheme right now!
[03:00] <abattoir> viper550: werent you the person who wrote a wiki about Kubuntu firefox theme?
[03:00] <viper550> yes
[03:00] <ivis> abattoir bash: not: command not found
[03:00] <kosh> viper550: I will look in a few minutes when these tests finish
[03:00] <viper550> Yeah, I've seen people complaining about that
[03:00] <abattoir> ivis: 'sudo apt-get remove skype' w/o the quotes
[03:01] <abattoir> viper550: yes, the gtk-qt engine exists :)
[03:01] <ivis> abattoir i remove the quotes
[03:01] <abattoir> ivis: you executed 'not' ?
[03:01] <ivis> posthuman where is  synaptic ? ;P
[03:01] <ivis> abattoir whats mean executed?
[03:01] <posthuman> i'm honestly not positive because i dont use gnome/ubuntu
[03:01] <ivis> i bad know english
[03:01] <abattoir> ivis: if you are running Kubuntu, you'd be looking for adept.....
[03:02] <posthuman> he runs ubuntu
[03:02] <posthuman> I think
[03:02] <ivis> i runing on ubuntu 6.06
[03:02] <ivis> :)
[03:02] <abattoir> ivis: execute the command 'sudo apt-get remove skype' just like you did for the stuff at the website
[03:02] <posthuman> i dont know a lot about gnome, but try : gtksu synaptic
[03:02] <posthuman> in the terminal
[03:02] <posthuman> [18:02]  <abattoir> ivis: execute the command 'sudo apt-get remove skype' just like you did for the stuff at the website <--that should work too
[03:02] <abattoir> posthuman: i think it is gksudo ;)
[03:02] <posthuman> ah
[03:02] <posthuman> lol
[03:02] <the_hammer> !pastebit
[03:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about pastebit - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:02] <the_hammer> !pastebin
[03:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:03] <posthuman> I don't know anything of gnome
[03:03] <OOD> you don't want to :P
[03:03] <posthuman> lol
[03:04] <posthuman> !synaptic
[03:04] <ivis> look this please http://paste.php.lv/4117
[03:04] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[03:04] <guillermo> hi!
[03:04] <ivis> yo
[03:04] <posthuman> hello!
[03:04] <posthuman> lol
[03:04] <ivis> posthuman please look a this http://paste.php.lv/4117
[03:04] <ivis> :P
[03:05] <abattoir> viper550: did you put up those KDM splash screens? or were those kwwii's ?
[03:05] <SpAwN> well if i manualy reinstaller the nvidia driver it works....there somthing acting funny..
[03:05] <guillermo> I wanted to ask if someone could help me to install de xine-extracodecs
[03:05] <viper550> Everything but the "Gothic Kubuntu" example at the end were kwwii's
[03:05] <guillermo> I've tried but I cannot get the packet
[03:05] <OOD> !mp3
[03:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:05] <abattoir> viper550: oh, ok :)
[03:05] <posthuman> ivis: something is currently using the package database
[03:05] <posthuman> do you have another program open thats using it?
[03:05] <posthuman> like synaptic (lol)
[03:06] <OOD> guillermo: check those links
[03:06] <ivis> im now downloading a package list
[03:06] <ivis> its a problem?
[03:06] <posthuman> ah well once all that is done it will work
[03:06] <posthuman> I think so
[03:06] <guillermo> ok
[03:06] <ivis> =\
[03:07] <ivis> linux is so dificult =\
[03:07] <viper550> Although, I did just finish work on a more purpleish version
[03:07] <OOD> guillermo: you'll need to get the universe and multiverse repositories open too
[03:07] <OOD> !repositories
[03:07] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:07] <posthuman> well, it's not very difficult...for me, mostly everything is simple... It can be difficult though..and if you're coming from windows I'm sure it's confusing
[03:07] <posthuman> have you tried automatix, ivis?
[03:07] <eXCeSS> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1272822#post1272822 help please
[03:07] <OOD> yea there's a learning curve
[03:07] <posthuman> automatix can install skype, I believe
[03:07] <posthuman> very easy
[03:07] <Generic> automatix is evil
[03:07] <ivis> what is this?
[03:08] <ivis> =o
[03:08] <Generic> I recommend Easyubuntu
[03:08] <posthuman> !automatix
[03:08] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[03:08] <ivis> where i can download automatix?
[03:08] <ivis> :)
[03:08] <ivis> rn
[03:08] <posthuman> i had a lot of problems with easyubuntu
[03:08] <posthuman> =\
[03:08] <ivis> tnx
[03:08] <Generic> Automatix makes uneccesary changes
[03:08] <Generic> It broke my system when i used it. Easyubuntu worked flawlessly
[03:08] <cpk2> yay i got my php board to work
[03:08] <ivis> what is easyubuntu?
[03:09] <Generic> like automatix, but safer (IMO)
[03:09] <Generic> !easyubuntu
[03:09] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:09] <posthuman> http://getautomatix.com/  <--there's a link to that as well
[03:09] <ivis> ohh
[03:09] <ivis> Thanks
[03:09] <ivis> :)
[03:09] <posthuman> easy ubuntu might work better for you
[03:09] <posthuman> like he said
[03:10] <ivis> my brain are gona explode for too much information today :D
[03:10] <posthuman> lol
[03:10] <Generic> if the link is down, let me know. I have a mirror on my server
[03:10] <posthuman> [18:08]  <Generic> It broke my system when i used it. Easyubuntu worked flawlessly  <---I couldn't seem to install anything on easyubuntu.  I can't remember the exact problem
[03:10] <posthuman> I may have downloaded the svn
[03:10] <posthuman> lol
[03:11] <Generic> Heh
[03:11] <Generic> did you run it sudo?
[03:11] <posthuman> I don't remember, was awhile ago.  It was some odd issue..I think it wouldn't LET me run it with sudo..but wouldn't work as a user either (never asked me for a password)
[03:12] <Woosta> Why on earth does the amarok package only have the xine engine? You have to rebuild it to get the other engines .. it's not worth distributing the other engines as packages surely?
[03:12] <posthuman> just wondering, but what's wrong with the xine engine?
[03:12] <posthuman> heh
[03:13] <posthuman> I suppose gstreamer you may want
[03:13] <Woosta> Playing CDs ..
[03:13] <ivis> =]
[03:14] <OOD> Woosta: why download 2 engines when one is enough
[03:14] <OOD> you can just get gsteamer via apt-get and use it in amarok
[03:14] <posthuman> what does an engine have to do with playing cds?
[03:14] <posthuman> =\
[03:14] <Woosta> OOD: Sure .. but make it one that *IS* enough
[03:14] <posthuman> xine plays cd's
[03:14] <Woosta> OOD:No you can't .. you have to rebuild amarok
[03:14] <ivis> posthuman how much is time in your country ? :)
[03:14] <guillermo> sorry, but while trying to install libxine-extracodecs I encounter a problem
[03:15] <Woosta> http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/FAQ#I.27ve_installed_GStreamer.2Fxine.2Fetc..2C_but_the_relevant_audio-engine_won.27t_show_up._What_gives.3F
[03:15] <posthuman> 6:15 pm here
[03:15] <posthuman> :P
[03:15] <guillermo> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:15] <guillermo> is only available from another source
[03:15] <guillermo> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[03:15] <posthuman> I hate that error
[03:15] <LjL> Woosta: not if you use the standard amarok
[03:15] <posthuman> and never understand it
[03:15] <ivis> nice :)) in my 4:15 am
[03:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> posthuman: Yeah, I end up manually downloading and installing the package.
[03:15] <Woosta> posthuman: amarok uses the cdaudio:// protocl or some such  .. xine doesn't support it
[03:15] <OOD> guillermo: did you open the universe and multiverse repositories?
[03:16] <posthuman> so in amarok i can't play cds?
[03:16] <posthuman> i've never tried..
[03:16] <Woosta> LjL: what do you mean? I need some non-standard amarok .. ?
[03:16] <Woosta> posthuman: not with the xine engine
[03:16] <guillermo> OOD: I think not, I'm not very familiar to linux yet :-/
[03:16] <posthuman> well, i see your problem then
[03:16] <OOD> !repositories
[03:16] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:17] <OOD> guillermo: check that
[03:17] <LjL> Woosta: oh no nevermind. the gstreamer engine is indeed missing -- i was thinking about the fact that if you use amarok 1.4 from the kubuntu.org repos, there is no amarok-arts engine, while if you use the dapper one, there is -- but still no gstreamer
[03:17] <guillermo> ok
[03:17] <Woosta> The real question is: why does the repository contain the other engines if you have to REBUILD amarok to use them?
[03:17] <posthuman> you could use kaffiene for cd's, to avoid trouble..if you want. Heh.
[03:17] <posthuman> and for that, I have no idea.
[03:17] <OOD> if you want to use totem maybe?
[03:18] <OOD> or another app that uses gstreamer by default?
[03:18] <kosh> the gstreamer engine for amarok was killed from what I understand because of problems
[03:18] <Woosta> package name: amarok-arts .... ?
[03:18] <posthuman> this is a long shot..and i don't know much about this command..but
[03:18] <posthuman> if you install the engines
[03:18] <posthuman> and dpkg-reconfigure amarok
[03:18] <posthuman> would that work?
[03:18] <Woosta> I install THAT a it doesnt' work
[03:18] <kosh> OOD: why would it matter if amarok is using xine and something else is using gstreamer?
[03:18] <posthuman> xine can't play cds in amarok
[03:18] <ivis>
[03:18] <kosh> OOD: on dapper alsa will use the dmix stuff if your sound card does not support multiopen so that should not be an issue
[03:19] <OOD> kosh: umm i was responding to Woosta's question
[03:19] <ivis>
[03:19] <kosh> hmm playing cds, I remember doing that a long time ago :)
[03:19] <posthuman> me niether
[03:19] <posthuman> lol
[03:19] <ivis>
[03:19] <OOD> about why the repository contains gsteamer
[03:19] <kosh> now I just encode them first
[03:20] <ivis> !Gentoo
[03:20] <ubotu> Other Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware
[03:20] <ivis> =\
[03:20] <ivis> !xmms
[03:20] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[03:20] <ivis> !ubuntu
[03:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[03:20] <posthuman> wait a minute
[03:20] <posthuman> woosta
[03:20] <Woosta> ?
[03:20] <ivis> !Archlinux
[03:20] <ubotu> Other Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware
[03:20] <posthuman> I just popped a cd in, using the xine engine
[03:21] <posthuman> and cd's play fine
[03:21] <posthuman> .
[03:21] <Woosta> Not via amarok though
[03:21] <posthuman> yes
[03:21] <ivis> !Gimp
[03:21] <ubotu> An advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[03:21] <posthuman> i'm playing it in amarok
[03:21] <posthuman> with xine
[03:21] <Woosta> Erm .. doesn't work for me and docs say it doesn't work
[03:21] <posthuman> well..that's rather odd
[03:21] <posthuman> are you using the newest amarok?
[03:21] <Woosta> version in the repos
[03:22] <ivis> KDE is beter than Gnome?
[03:22] <OOD> that's not the newest version
[03:22] <posthuman> it says cdda:/1 for filename
[03:22] <posthuman> and all plays well
[03:22] <posthuman> etc
[03:22] <tony_> could someone tell me if i need sendmail or something for a php mailer?
[03:22] <OOD> newest is 1.4.1
[03:22] <posthuman> yes you need the newest
[03:22] <posthuman> kde > gnome
[03:22] <posthuman> by far in my opinion
[03:22] <Woosta> Still begs the qustion: why have packges for the other engines :)
[03:22] <ivis> tony u need senmail for mysql
[03:22] <ivis> i thnik
[03:22] <ivis> :D
[03:23] <kosh> umm mysql is a database server, sendmail is a mail daemon
[03:23] <Woosta> So .. is there a package for the latest amarok anywhere?
[03:23] <posthuman> yes
[03:23] <posthuman> one moment
[03:23] <ivis> kosh im newbie sory :D
[03:23] <kosh> tony_: what your php mailer needs should be listed in its requirements it probably can use any mail sender
[03:23] <Viper550> Hi, I'm back, and I did do some changes to my Edgy design
[03:23] <kosh> tony_: so you could probably use postfix, qmail, sendmail etc
[03:23] <ivis> Im know only windows for now
[03:23] <ivis> :)
[03:23] <posthuman> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-141 dapper main
[03:23] <posthuman> ;)
[03:24] <kosh> ivis: then offering advice is not a good idea :)
[03:24] <tony_> ok, thanks. either they have too little documentation or hours worth of reading
[03:24] <Viper550> Excuse me
[03:24] <ivis> i know php.ini sendmail :D
[03:24] <Viper550> I did do some changes just right now to my Edgy Eft theme for Kubuntu that I think you'll love better
[03:25] <Viper550> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas
[03:25] <posthuman> viper: i like it
[03:25] <posthuman> looks good
[03:25] <tony_> any recommended mailers you guys know of that's simple and only needs php?
[03:25] <Viper550> Way nicer than my older Gothic Purple one?
[03:26] <kye> Night guys
[03:27] <ironfroggy> if i install by resizing an nfts partition, can i later increase the size of the new partition?
[03:27] <abattoir> Viper550: are you coordinating w/ kwwii?
[03:28] <Viper550> Not exactly, I changed it to Purple when I heard that KDE and Kubuntu were shifting that direction
[03:28] <abattoir> Viper550: if you are interested in Kubuntu artwork, i'd suggest contacting him....
[03:28] <posthuman> :P
[03:29] <abattoir> posthuman: its a long wait :(
[03:29] <OOD> yea, im looking forward to that
[03:29] <posthuman> I know
[03:29] <posthuman> =(
[03:29] <Viper550> We're on the same mailing list!
[03:29] <guillermo> OOD, ubotu: cool, it worked fine! Thnx
[03:30] <OOD> guillermo: no problem :), and ubotu is a channel bot :P
[03:30] <abattoir> Viper550: the wallpaper looks beautiful btw :)
[03:30] <the_hammer> where did LjL go?
[03:30] <the_hammer> !seen LjL
[03:30] <ubotu> I last saw LjL<EMAIL_ADDRESS>4m ago, quiting: Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)
[03:30] <the_hammer> darn it
[03:30] <CheeseBurgerMan> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Kubuntu-Edgy-Ideas?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=KUB1.png <--- OMG, that's amazing. :)
[03:31] <the_hammer> OOD ya know bout eggdrops?
[03:31] <Woosta> How do I start synaptic in superuser mode? sudo and it starts, but I can't install anything
[03:31] <Viper550> Thanks, it's a modification of this one: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=41599
[03:31] <OOD> the_hammer: no, haven't used it
[03:31] <the_hammer> darn
[03:31] <the_hammer> darn darn darn it
[03:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> Woosta: 'kdesu synaptic'
[03:32] <Woosta> ahh .. thanks
[03:32] <OOD> modification? that's some amazing modification, if you can even call it that
[03:32] <the_hammer> i was gonna do desktop share with LjL to see if he could look at my confgi and help me out a bit but my darn router heh so i unplugged it and come back and he gone
[03:32] <abattoir> Viper550: i'm just curious, you changed the hues in gimp?
[03:32] <Viper550> No, gThumb
[03:32] <the_hammer> anyone else here know eggdrops??
[03:32] <abattoir> oh, ok
[03:33] <Viper550> gThumb is perfect for simple hue shifts like that
[03:33] <Woosta> Bah, same errors
[03:33] <the_hammer> cpk2 u ehre?
[03:33] <the_hammer> here*
[03:33] <OOD> the_hammer: what are you trying to do now?
[03:33] <the_hammer> well to my knowledge my config file is fine but it says its not when i try to run the bot
[03:33] <Woosta> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[03:33] <Woosta> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[03:34] <posthuman> ah broken directory
[03:34] <posthuman> err packages
[03:34] <posthuman> hmm
[03:34] <posthuman> do you have the kde repo added as well?
[03:34] <posthuman> that may be needed
[03:34] <the_hammer> so trying to see if i can get someone to see desktop share and see what i did wrong
[03:34] <Woosta> I added repo for amarok 1.4 .. then forced version to use that
[03:35] <Woosta> When I fix broken, it removes amarok1.4
[03:35] <the_hammer> Woosta u know eggdrops?
[03:35] <Woosta> erm .. no
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> Woosta: Fix it, and then run 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[03:35] <CheeseBurgerMan> It should install Amarok 1.4
[03:35] <the_hammer> anyone here know eggdrops?
[03:35] <the_hammer> im extreamly close to getting mine done
[03:36] <OOD> it's an irc bot
[03:36] <the_hammer> added the net added the server added the nicks both owner/bots
[03:36] <Woosta> the_hammer: surely there's an #eggdrop channl?>
[03:36] <the_hammer> ill try there i was there earlyer and they laughed at me
[03:37] <BKaj> why fool with bots when you can talk to real ppl , like us :)
[03:37] <Woosta> LOL .. If I try to remove amarok, it wants to remove kubuntu desktop too .. who made this mess?
[03:37] <the_hammer> just to learn/try something new
[03:37] <eXCeSS> rofl
[03:37] <OOD> Woosta: that's just a meta package
[03:37] <OOD> it's 52k in size
[03:37] <CheeseBurgerMan> Woosta: Try running 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[03:37] <Woosta> OOD: so I can safely remove it?
[03:38] <OOD> yes
[03:38] <OOD> nvm, it's 40k :P
[03:38] <the_hammer> baaa no ones answering me there
[03:38] <Viper550> So, think my desktop setup should be the default on Edgy Eft?
[03:38] <cpk2> the_hammer: use pastebin to paste you config
[03:38] <SpAwN> why would i have to manualy reinstall the nvidia driver everytime i reboot?.....
[03:39] <SpAwN> i cant even just modprobe nvidia
[03:39] <OOD> SpAwN: having nvidia driver problems again?
[03:39] <the_hammer> !pastebin
[03:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:40] <SpAwN> well there was asome updates the otherday.......then the 1st time i rebooted was today
[03:40] <SpAwN> b4 alli did was manualy install the driver then it would auto load at the boot
[03:40] <SpAwN> now it doesnt....
[03:40] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: If you did an update then the first time you reboot you have to reinstall the drivers
[03:40] <the_hammer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18322
[03:40] <SpAwN> i have to either edit the xorg.conf to use vesa....or reinstall the driver.
[03:41] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Why not just use the stuff that comes with Ubuntu pre-packaged ?
[03:41] <Hawkwind> Ewwwwww @ ATI stuff
[03:41] <OOD> that probably because you upgraded the kernel
[03:41] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, yea but ive reinstaled the driver 3 times.....rebooted 2 times
[03:41] <OOD> you'll have to reinstall the kernel module
[03:41] <SpAwN> OOD, the officail nvida driver used to do that
[03:41] <SpAwN> ...it did it for me last time
[03:41] <OOD> XD, man drop the 'official' thing
[03:42] <the_hammer> well ill be back yet again hooking router back up
[03:42] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Why on earth are you reinstalling the drivers that many times and rebooting ?
[03:42] <Hawkwind> Hey there nixternal
[03:43] <nixternal> helloooooo!!!!
[03:43] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, i wa strying to get a game to work....it caused somthing to go wrong and automaticly rebooted itself
[03:43] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, then i reinstalled the drivers.....tested to see if they auto loaded....they didnt
[03:43] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: You probably need to just add something to your /etc/modules file
[03:44] <SpAwN> OOD, realy man the ones in the ubuntu repo give me 13500 fps MAX......the "official" ones give me well over 14300 fps
[03:44] <ivis> !slax
[03:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about slax - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:44] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, im hoping
[03:44] <ryanakca> hmmm... since the kernel upgrade I can't hold backspace and have it backspace, I need to repetedly push it... I also can't push ->, <-  (arrow keys) and have the cursor move... I need to hit it repeatedly..., and my numlock, capslock & scroll lock lights don't work...   And this is all in xorg...
[03:44] <OOD> glxgears is a bad benchmarking tool
[03:44] <OOD> don't depend on it too much
[03:44] <SpAwN> OOD, i dont
[03:45] <kosh> heh nvidia even has in their driver docs about not using it as a benchmark because it is too simple
[03:45] <kosh> the benchmark is so simple it does not execise the cards in a realistic way
[03:45] <ryanakca> SpAwN: what the *****.... with an nvidia radeon 9200 SE... I get 300fps... tops
[03:45] <SpAwN> OOD, another example i can give is glmatrix screen saver displaying fps.....i get around 32 with repos ones and around 40-42 with the officail
[03:45] <SpAwN> ryanakca, i have a very nice vid card
[03:45] <OOD> nvidia radeon?
[03:46] <SpAwN> ryanakca, nvidia geforce 7800 GT OC from bfgtech
[03:46] <OOD> where the hell did you get such a hybrid card?
[03:46] <ryanakca> SpAwN: theres a catch... it's macde by nvidia
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> rofl
[03:46] <Woosta> FFS .. this whole thing is just TOO screwy .. so I add the amarok repos .. but there's about a billion dependencies that just *AREN'T AVAILABLE*
[03:46] <SpAwN> LOL nvida raedon...i didnt catch that
[03:46] <ryanakca> OOD: I nicked it off my mom's computer... she doesn't use it anymore... and hey, it's better than some of the no-name cards and the i810 I used to use :)
[03:47] <SpAwN> Hawkwind,  u use nvidia correct?......what line to u have in the /etc/modules file?....i have no nvdia anything in mine
[03:47] <OOD> ryanakca: i am sad to inform you that no such card exists
[03:47] <the_hammer> back
[03:47] <SpAwN> ryanakca, raedon is made by ati....... ati is nvidias arch nemesis
[03:47] <the_hammer> anyone know eggdrops here i gotta bin for ya to look at if ya can help me out
[03:48] <ryanakca> OOD... ooops... my bad :)
[03:48] <OOD> lol
[03:48] <ryanakca> rofl
[03:48] <the_hammer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18322
[03:48] <SpAwN> OOD, do u use nvidia?
[03:48] <ryanakca> hey... it's late, I'm tired :)
[03:48] <OOD> SpAwN: yea i have an FX
[03:49] <SpAwN> OOD, could u pastebin your /etc/modules for me to look at please?
[03:49] <SpAwN> i have no idea what to put in mine...im assuming a line like "nvidia"
[03:49] <OOD> all i have is lp and psmouse listed
[03:49] <OOD> no reference to nvidia whatsoever
[03:50] <SpAwN> OOD, same here
[03:50] <ryanakca> well... ati is crap... learned that from experience... :)
[03:50] <OOD> ryanakca: ati is just as good as ati, the X1900XTX is the best card out atm
[03:50] <BKaj> hey hey...works for me
[03:50] <SpAwN> damn....
[03:50] <SpAwN> personaly i haet  ati
[03:50] <SpAwN> *hate
[03:50] <OOD> but their linux support is beyond crap
[03:50] <ryanakca> yes, ati is as good as ati, because they are ati :)
[03:51] <OOD> XD
[03:51] <OOD> meant nvidia
[03:51] <OOD> lol
[03:51] <SpAwN> hehe
[03:51] <ryanakca> lol
[03:51] <BKaj> gamerz shouldn't be in here
[03:51] <BKaj> waste of time
[03:51] <ryanakca> BKaj: ???
[03:52] <SpAwN> BKaj, yea what?
[03:52] <posthuman> I play a lot of games with cedega
[03:52] <posthuman> no problems ;)
[03:52] <ryanakca> BKaj: what are you talking about?
[03:52] <cpk2> anyone able to help me out with getting swat to work?
[03:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> I play a lot of...tetris. :)
[03:52] <cpk2> i cant access localhost:901
[03:52] <BKaj> just kidding
[03:52] <ivis> Linux Rocks
[03:52] <kosh> OOD the ati drivers are not as good as the nvidia ones, if you want to run two cards in a quad head setup and have opengl accel across all 4 screens and have the screens seamless then nvidia is the only option right now
[03:53] <OOD> kosh: i said ati linux support sucks
[03:53] <BKaj> needed a reaction, was getting boring in here
[03:53] <kosh> OOD I have tried to play with the ati driver to get it to do that and it just has not worked
[03:53] <OOD> i can quote myself if you want
[03:53] <kosh> OOD that kind of feature doesn't work that well under windows either on the ati cards
[03:54] <SpAwN> where can i look to see where things are loaded at boot...i wanna find out why the driver isnt being loaded by defalut
[03:54] <kosh> OOD the ati driver just seems to cover the most general case but misses some massive higher end corner cases the the nvidia drivers handle even under windows
[03:54] <SpAwN> *default
[03:55] <Woosta> *sob* .. I added the wrong friggin repos .. now I've added the kubuntu-specific repos, it's working just fine
[03:55] <Woosta> Gah
[03:55] <cpk2> nevermind finally found a post with a fix that worked
[03:56] <OOD> kosh: there's a reason i have an nvidia card ;), but ATi and nVidia are very very clo\se
[03:56] <Woosta> Oh yay. Now it's crashed
[03:56] <kosh> I currently have ati cards but my next system will be dual 7950s
[03:57] <OOD> adept?
[03:57] <OOD> Woosta, adept crashed?
[03:57] <Woosta> Nah, amarok 1.4 .. though on second try it worked
[03:57] <OOD> ah
[03:57] <OOD> kosh: you're getting quad-sli?
[03:58] <kosh> well under linux I will be using it for quad head but under windows it will be setup for quad sli for games
[03:58] <OOD> waste of money in my opinion, DX10 hardware is coming this year
[03:59] <kosh> then I will replace it sometime after that, however right now there is no better option for a good quad head setup and I need to repalce my current setup in the next month
[04:00] <OOD> what do you do? quad-screen setup is pretty expensive stuff :)
[04:01] <kosh> write database software, but more screen realestate means stuff gets done faster
[04:01] <the_hammer> !pastebit
[04:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about pastebit - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[04:01] <the_hammer> !pastebin
[04:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:02] <Woosta> Mmmok .. so it's playing audio cds .. but there's no sound... kmix is up ..
[04:03] <OOD> Woosta: you have cd muted?
[04:05] <Woosta> Just checked alsamixer and unmuted everything .. now amarok complains that xine can't find any output drivers
[04:06] <the_hammer> !PASTEBIN
[04:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:08] <cps1966> new kernel crashes machine already
[04:08] <the_hammer> can someone grab my hostname and ip info for me?
[04:09] <the_hammer> and msg me with it?
[04:10] <Woosta> www.whats-my-ip.org iirc
[04:12] <SpAwN> anyone know where i can check to see where/what is loaded during boot....i want to see if anything related to nvidia is even being loaded....
[04:13] <cps1966> dmesg should tell you
[04:14] <Woosta> OK, so I'm getting no sound .. how do I work out why?
[04:14] <cps1966> lsmod and see if module is loaded for sound card
[04:15] <Woosta> quite a few .. mmm .. oss
[04:15] <cps1966> no alsa
[04:16] <the_hammer> someone tell me how toi get my ip and host name?
[04:16] <the_hammer> i think my host name is wp.shawcable.net right?
[04:16] <Woosta> snd_mixer_oss          18688  1 snd_pcm_oss
[04:16] <Woosta> many lines .. including that one
[04:17] <cps1966> http://whatismyipaddress.com/
[04:17] <cps1966> so you have off the wall sound card
[04:18] <Woosta> intel 7.1
[04:18] <the_hammer> how do i do host
[04:19] <the_hammer> pretty sure this is it here wp.shawcable.net?
[04:19] <the_hammer> i just have to set those to the bot and then figger out how to get central time zone short form letters
[04:19] <cps1966> http://www.findmyhost.com/
[04:20] <the_hammer> that didnt help me
[04:21] <the_hammer> dam im close to having the bot done
[04:21] <SpAwN> does anyone know what file tells my computer to load the nvidia driver at boot time?
[04:21] <the_hammer> need my darn host heh
[04:21] <SpAwN> the_hammer, are u trying to use a eggdrop??
[04:21] <cps1966> SpAwN:  did you enable it
[04:22] <SpAwN> cps1966, enable it how?
[04:22] <SpAwN> cps1966, i manualy installed it....everytime ive done this b4,,,it had auto loaded when i boot
[04:22] <Woosta> SpAwN: either /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /etc/modules at a guess
[04:22] <cps1966> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:23] <SpAwN> Woosta, xorg.conf uses nvdia... oog said he had nothing about nvidia in his /etc/modules
[04:23] <the_hammer> yeah
[04:23] <the_hammer> kinda
[04:23] <cps1966> SpAwN:  what wrong with ubuntus nvidia module
[04:23] <the_hammer> just trying to program it and im seeing through my pastebin my mistakes
[04:23] <the_hammer> so correcting them
[04:23] <SpAwN> cps1966, i get better performance with the official one
[04:23] <the_hammer> i missed my ip and host
[04:23] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: It's not going to be that noticable though
[04:24] <the_hammer> got the ip now need my host
[04:24] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: You really should make life easier on yourself and just use the pre-packaged Ubuntu stuff
[04:24] <SpAwN> the_hammer, u dont need to edit EVERYTHING in the eggdrop.conf
[04:24] <the_hammer> wich im sure is wp.shawcable.net
[04:24] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: I used to install from nvidia.com as well.  But Ubuntu makes it too simple
[04:24] <the_hammer> well it wont load
[04:24] <the_hammer> keeps pointin to my config file
[04:24] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, well i would but the colors are all off in my games when i used the ubuntu one too
[04:25] <SpAwN> the_hammer, ill save u time....open the eggdrop.conf file and look for the wor "die" there are 2 lines u need to edit out.....its to trick ppl from not editing the eggdrops b4 starting them
[04:25] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Seems noone else has that issue.  I'd seriously give up on what you're trying to do and take the easy way
[04:26] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, well i play alot of enemy territory...which i noticed a decent difference in colors/performance
[04:26] <cps1966> then your card is going bad
[04:26] <SpAwN> cps1966, noep.....checked it and cleaned it like 2 weeks ago
[04:27] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Then that's NOT a driver issue.  That's a card issue
[04:27] <SpAwN> cps1966, and its a new card...less then 6 mo old
[04:27] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, how so.......i use officail driver and have no problems with games
[04:27] <SpAwN> i dont use themm....i do
[04:27] <cps1966> SpAwN:  that dont make it good
[04:27] <SpAwN> that doesnt suggest hardware issue to me
[04:28] <Woosta> Does *anyone* know anything about sound?
[04:28] <cps1966> the two drivers are the same
[04:28] <SpAwN> ive been told 3 milion times in this chan to use the ubuntu ones........but im telling you from MY experiences that i get better performance from the official ones
[04:28] <fiyawerx> Woosta: whats the prob?
[04:28] <Woosta> I've got none :)
[04:29] <Woosta> OSS modules in lsmod
[04:29] <Woosta> Nothing else happening
[04:29] <the_hammer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18326
[04:29] <Woosta> Normaly it just works .. this computer .. nada
[04:29] <SpAwN> ive tried both driver in diff situations/games/setups....and the officail ones come out on top everytime.......again i am telling from MY expericnces
[04:29] <fiyawerx> i think crimsun may be the one you want for that one
[04:30] <the_hammer> spawn check out that bin i posted
[04:30] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Yet you can't get the official drivers to work now.  I think that should tell you something
[04:30] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Or atleast you can't get them to stay loaded
[04:31] <SpAwN> the_hammer, i will glance at it...i realy dont have time to trouble shoot a eggdrop for u...they are very well documented
[04:31] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, they work now...they just wont load....
[04:31] <SpAwN> *load at boot time
[04:31] <the_hammer> im extreamly close to being done
[04:31] <the_hammer> im just over looking something i just know it
[04:31] <SpAwN> die.
[04:31] <SpAwN> put # b4 die
[04:31] <cpk2> the_hammer: try doing undernet.org
[04:31] <cps1966> there is no module.preload inhere
[04:32] <SpAwN> other then that....it would require me to go over your whole eggdrop.conf...whcih is to long
[04:32] <cpk2> and i think the first line needs to be uncommented
[04:33] <the_hammer> ok did that
[04:34] <cps1966> read the damn readme
[04:34] <cpk2> ^^ that too
[04:34] <the_hammer> what first line?
[04:34] <cps1966> thats why noone learns here
[04:35] <justheatingup> hi
[04:35] <Hawkwind> This whole eggdrop thing really has nothing to do with Kubuntu.  Why it continues to be discussed here is beyond me
[04:35] <justheatingup> i need some help
[04:35] <Hawkwind> It really should be taken somewhere else, like #Kubuntu-OffTopic or something since you obvsiously can't read the file and understand it
[04:35] <justheatingup> i have an issue with my laptop
[04:35] <cpk2> normally the first line is the one labelled 001
[04:35] <Hawkwind> It takes 5 minutes to setup an eggdrop, yet you've been doing this for 4+ hours
[04:35] <dan_> whats up
[04:35] <shawn_> hello konqueror seems to believe I'm in the UK instead of canada it seems so it is bringing me to the www.google.co.uk when i use the google search box instead of .ca
[04:36] <dan_> thats cool
[04:36] <dan_> lol
[04:36] <justheatingup> dan:  if i walk away for 5 minutes
[04:36] <the_hammer> ya well im also mentally challanged
[04:36] <Woosta> I'd say that's google using GeoIP ..
[04:36] <justheatingup> i come back to a logon screen
[04:36] <dan_> crazy
[04:36] <dan_> sorry man i'm still learning all this shit too
[04:37] <Hawkwind> dan_: Easy on the language please
[04:37] <the_hammer> #! /home/oem/eggdrop <--this is 1st line
[04:37] <dan_> oh sorry
[04:37] <justheatingup> yeah im a neub too
[04:37] <shawn_> firefox brings me to .ca like it should
[04:37] <the_hammer> is that the 1st line ya talkin about to leave blank?
[04:37] <justheatingup> i just don't quite understand why it kicks me out
[04:37] <Hawkwind> the_hammer: Seriously, please take the eggdrop somewhere else so that it's not interfering with the people that need help with Kubuntu
[04:37] <the_hammer> ok
[04:38] <justheatingup> hawkwind i could us some of that help ;)
[04:38] <Hawkwind> LOL he didn't have to leave here all together
[04:38] <dan_> hey does anyone know if there is a way to uninstall programs after you've installed them
[04:38] <dan_> and i dont mean debian packages
[04:38] <Hawkwind> dan_: apt-get remove ?
[04:38] <dan_> no
[04:38] <Hawkwind> dan_: What kind of packages ?
[04:38] <cps1966> maybe he went to #eggdrop
[04:38] <cpk2> delete them
[04:38] <dan_> i'm not just gonna delete them
[04:38] <shawn_> make uninstall doesn't that work sometimes
[04:38] <SpAwN> dan_, if u installed from source u can use make uninstall
[04:38] <Hawkwind> cps1966: That wouldn't be obvious would it ?
[04:38] <justheatingup> hawk do you know why I can't leave my laptop for more than 5 minutes
[04:38] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: Not always
[04:38] <dan_> oh ok
[04:39] <dan_> i'll try that
[04:39] <dan_> thanx
[04:39] <SpAwN> Hawkwind, most the time u can.....
[04:39] <dan_> well i'll try it for now
[04:39] <dan_> if it doesnt work, i'll be back
[04:39] <Hawkwind> Majority of the time things don't have a make uninstall script
[04:39] <SpAwN> worth telling him to try it.
[04:39] <ironfroggy> is it possible to tell if a machine has additional IDE connectors internally without looking?
[04:39] <Hawkwind> dan_: If it doesn't work, then just delete the directories/files it made
[04:39] <kosh> check the specs online for the machine
[04:39] <cpk2> if you know the model of the motherboard
[04:39] <justheatingup> spawn how about you why do i get a login screen after a few minutes?
[04:39] <cpk2> or if you buy a pci card with ide connectors
[04:40] <dan_> just deleting the dirs wont hurt anything?
[04:40] <Hawkwind> justheatingup: Is the system overheating maybe ?
[04:40] <cps1966> if there not shared
[04:40] <SpAwN> justheatingup, no clue i dont have kubuntu on a laptop..its gotta be a power saver or somtiing
[04:40] <dan_> so i'm going to have to search my whole hard drive to find all the files is what you are saying hawkwind
[04:40] <Hawkwind> justheatingup: Have you run memtest to see if your RAM is bad ?  Let it run for as long as possible.  12 - 16 hours preferably
[04:40] <justheatingup> its fine if i'm on it
[04:41] <Hawkwind> dan_: Yep.    And by the sounds of it, he doesn't know what he's doing :P
[04:43] <cps1966> make uninstall is very simple
[04:43] <ironfroggy> is it possible to connect a laptop harddrive to a desktop?
[04:43] <kosh> dan_: I am not trying to be a jerk
[04:43] <justheatingup> dan what's your issue?
[04:43] <justheatingup> i'm coming from gentoo
[04:43] <cps1966> ironfroggy:  if you have adaptor like i have
[04:44] <dan_> well i'm just looking for answers and this guy is making me seem like an idiot
[04:44] <justheatingup> so compile is all i ever did ;)
[04:44] <dan_> man i must be hungry
[04:44] <kosh> dan_: I am trying to point out that there is more to compiling software and hooking it into any system then just being able to type the compile commands
[04:44] <kosh> dan_: none of this stuff is easy and not knowing how to do it correctly is not a problem so long as you are aware of your own skills
[04:44] <justheatingup> dan: what were you compiling?
[04:44] <dan_> ok well thank you for the insight
[04:45] <ironfroggy> cps1966: is it completely necessary? i mean, it seems to fit an IDE ribbon..
[04:45] <dan_> i know its not easy thats why i'm here
[04:45] <ironfroggy> cps1966: im just trying to find out of its any good, before i try to open up my laptop.
[04:45] <cps1966> what laptop drive that fits 40 pin connector
[04:46] <cps1966> i doubt that
[04:46] <ironfroggy> cps1966: umm the one in my hand? its just an ATA/IDE harddrive, but small.
[04:46] <dan_> well thanx anyways i'll come back when i know what i'm talking about
[04:46] <cps1966> you better take a closert look
[04:46] <ironfroggy> cps1966: at what, exactly?
[04:46] <justheatingup> dan_
[04:46] <ironfroggy> i mean, thats what it is.
[04:46] <ironfroggy> it has a label saying so and everything.
[04:47] <justheatingup> don't let it get to you
[04:47] <cps1966> the pins are very close and more than forty
[04:47] <justheatingup> I can offer some support if you are compiling
[04:47] <ironfroggy> cps1966: not on this. like i said: ATA/IDE
[04:47] <JRH3K5> You know what's frustrating?
[04:47] <dan_> well dude, i'm not just some kid that doesnt know what i'm talking about
[04:47] <JRH3K5> Spending 4 days setting up a streaming server, only to find that your work has blocked streams.
[04:47] <justheatingup> don_: i hear yeah
[04:47] <JRH3K5> >:(
[04:47] <dan_> i've had a computer for 20 years
[04:47] <JRH3K5> The same computer?
[04:47] <kosh> dan_: you are taking what I said far too personally
[04:47] <justheatingup> Dan: what seems to be the issue?
[04:47] <cps1966> dan_:  22 here
[04:48] <dan_> yeah i installed linux on a commodore 64
[04:48] <dan_> ok i'm sorry kosh
[04:48] <JRH3K5> Hardcore.
[04:48] <dan_> just a little uptight today
[04:48] <dan_> i didnt really install linux on a commodore, that was a joke
[04:48] <kosh> dan_: look at the package checkinstall
[04:48] <dan_> ok
[04:48] <JRH3K5> I know that.
[04:48] <JRH3K5> Now.
[04:48] <dan_> oh lol
[04:48] <cpk2> justheatingup: he wanted a way to install programs he compiled other than just deleting the dirs
[04:48] <ironfroggy> ok so how about finding out if my laptop has room for a second harddrive in it before i actually open it up? is there anything i can query to find out?
[04:49] <cpk2> err uninstall*
[04:49] <kosh> I wonder if there are any laptops that have room for a second drive
[04:49] <JRH3K5> ironfroggy - your manufacturer's website should have documentation
[04:49] <dan_> dude i wouldnt open my laptop
[04:49] <cpk2> kosh: the really big ones
[04:49] <kosh> heh I would open a laptop up
[04:49] <kosh> and have
[04:49] <JRH3K5> There's probably at least one.
[04:49] <dan_> not if you were him
[04:49] <cps1966> so have i
[04:49] <cpk2> i opened mine...
[04:49] <ironfroggy> kosh: acer has a new laptop that comes standard with 2 disk RAID.
[04:49] <kosh> it is not any worse then opening up a desktop computer
[04:50] <dan_> i guess i've never had one so i dont know
[04:50] <JRH3K5> ironfroggy:  not a common feature, though.
[04:50] <JRH3K5> But contact your manufacturer.
[04:50] <ironfroggy> of course not
[04:50] <kosh> ironfroggy: my point is that laptops that can support more then one hard drive probably make up less then .001% of laptops
[04:50] <JRH3K5> IF your laptop has the capability, they should be able to direct you to an authorized PC store to do the work for you
[04:51] <dan_> you know i have to say i'm glad there are more people like you guys
[04:51] <JRH3K5> Comedic relief?
[04:51] <ironfroggy> JRH3K5: not paying someone else to toss in a new harddrive for me
[04:51] <dan_> most of the people nowadays own a computer and think they know everything
[04:51] <JRH3K5> Or actual helpful assistance?
[04:51] <derekS> where can i find the min specs for xubuntu
[04:51] <dan_> no really
[04:51] <dan_> i'm serious
[04:52] <JRH3K5> ironfroggy:  okay.  I wasn't sure of what your level of skills were.  I was erring on the side of caution.
[04:52] <dan_> i'm from the old school generation, back when 20 mb hard drive was huge
[04:52] <dan_> nobody cared then
[04:52] <JRH3K5> I played Wheel of Fortune on a Commodore 64.
[04:52] <cps1966> dan same here
[04:52] <JRH3K5> Does that make me old-school?
[04:52] <dan_> now everybody wants to chat and check e-mail
[04:52] <ironfroggy> JRH3K5: i work on my hardware all the time, but ive never had a laptop open. dont know what to expect, i suppose.
[04:52] <dan_> me too ironfroggy
[04:53] <JRH3K5> Same here; that's why I'd say take it to the authorized tech store.
[04:53] <dan_> thats a good idea
[04:53] <JRH3K5> They know what they're doing, and, if they screw something up, you can get some compensation.
[04:53] <dan_> maybe you can ask to watch them do it
[04:53] <JRH3K5> dan likes to watch.
[04:53] <dan_> lol
[04:53] <cps1966> me too
[04:54] <ironfroggy> maybe i should just get a usb hdd instead.
[04:54] <dan_> there is nothing like taking a hard drive out of a computer and putting it back in
[04:54] <dan_> computer nerd humor
[04:54] <dan_> i love it
[04:54] <cps1966> make sure i'm getting my monets worth
[04:54] <JRH3K5> I'd say go USB
[04:54] <dan_> well anyways thanx guys
[04:54] <JRH3K5> That way, you can easily transfer files between your laptop & other computers
[04:54] <dan_> i'll be back
[04:55] <dan_> latre
[04:55] <JRH3K5> Seagate has a nice 8 GB puck-sized portal HDD
[04:55] <ironfroggy> 160 gig usb drive is less than 150 now. crazy
[04:55] <JRH3K5> *portable
[04:55] <JRH3K5> I've been wanting to get one for myself for some time now.
[04:55] <JRH3K5> Instead, I spent all my money on a new computer. :/
[04:55] <cps1966> ironfroggy:  how old is that thing
[04:55] <ironfroggy> cps1966: what my laptop? its pretty new, why?
[04:56] <cps1966> pretty new is 1995 to me
[04:56] <ironfroggy> more like 2005
[04:57] <cps1966> mine has 720MB drive in it
[04:57] <ironfroggy> well aint you special
[04:57] <JRH3K5> What OS fits on that?
[04:57] <ironfroggy> im trying to dual boot for the time being
[04:57] <cps1966> dsl
[04:57] <JRH3K5> ...what two OS's fit on that?
[04:57] <JRH3K5> 3.1 and DOS?
[04:57] <ironfroggy> and right now kubuntu is stuck in about 2 gigs...
[04:57] <cps1966> 95 and dsl will fit
[04:57] <ironfroggy> oh.. MB.. thought you said GB
[04:58] <JRH3K5> o_o
[04:58] <JRH3K5> I'd like to have a laptop with a 720GB HD
[04:58] <cps1966> hehe
[04:58] <posthuman> did you say 720mb harddrive?/
[04:58] <posthuman> talk about time to upgrade
[04:58] <cps1966> yes i did
[04:58] <cps1966> for what
[04:58] <posthuman> obvious reasons?
[04:58] <posthuman> ;)
[04:59] <cps1966> why cause your not happy
[05:00] <ironfroggy> i cant seem to get my ext3 partition moved now that ive shrunk my ntfs partition to make room for it...
[05:00] <ironfroggy> isnt that supposed to be doable?
[05:07] <nrdb> I have just installed skype I would like to test it is there anyone here that would like to chat?
[05:08] <Hawkwind> nrdb: Probably people in #Skype that would help test it with you
[05:08] <nrdb> Hawkwind: didn't know about that one
[05:10] <nrdb> Hawkwind: there appears to be nobody in #Skype or #skype
[05:10] <cps1966> my skype works ok
[05:11] <Woosta> Anyone know why alsa-utils doesn't come with alsaconf, even though it's in the README?
[05:12] <eXCeSS> !wireless
[05:12] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[05:23] <andrew_> !wpa
[05:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[05:23] <andrew_> !wpa2
[05:24] <cps1966> !wan
[05:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about wan - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:24] <cps1966> !won
[05:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about won - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:50] <awe6> Anyone with experience running gnome-pilot (a gtk program) on Kubuntu?
[06:08] <lkukacc> j reggelt
[06:14] <SpAwN> well i uninstalled the officail driver and used this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia to install the one from ubuntu but now when i use the nvidia driver and restart x it doesnt work
[06:15] <SpAwN> it just stays at the blue kubuntu logo
[06:15] <soldier> hi
[06:16] <soldier> anyway i can install ubuntu desktop on kubuntu?
[06:16] <soldier> is it apt-get install ubuntu desktop?
[06:16] <abattoir> soldier: 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[06:16] <Woosta> I'm having all sort of problems running a configure script .. I've installed gcc, but I'm guessing I'm missing something else
[06:17] <soldier> thank you
[06:17] <Woosta>  /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
[06:17] <abattoir> Woosta: try install build-essential
[06:17] <abattoir> !info build-essential
[06:17] <Woosta> ahh .. ta
[06:17] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[06:17] <abattoir> !build-essential
[06:17] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:23] <SpAwN> yea i get it installed from the repos....use the command sudo nvidia-glx-config enable .....edit the xorg.conf to use the nvidia driver....i even tried modprobe nvidia....which didnt return any errors....i then hit ctrl alt backspace.......and it just sits at the kubuntu logo screen.....i have to use ctrl alt f1 and re edit the xorg.conf to use the vesa driver........can anyone help get it working....
[06:26] <the_hammer> someone in here earlyer said something bout adding something to the line where it says die in the bot
[06:26] <the_hammer> what was i to add again?
[06:27] <Hawkwind> LOL
[06:27] <Hawkwind> the_hammer: #
[06:27] <the_hammer> ok
[06:27] <Hawkwind> the_hammer: If you read the file it tells you that
[06:27] <Hawkwind> It tells you you have to do it in 2 different places.  Seriously, read the file as it tells you EVERYTHING you need to know
[06:28] <SpAwN> the_hammer, eggdrops are very well documented......
[06:28] <posthuman> spawn, did you fix your nvidia problem?
[06:28] <Hawkwind> SpAwN: He's been working on this for about 6+ hours now.  Not really the channel for it either
[06:28] <SpAwN> posthuman, negadive
[06:28] <SpAwN> im now trying the suggested way and its not working
[06:29] <posthuman> have you tried downloading the drivers from the nvidia website?  Really easy to install... simply un tar it, and kill xserver, run the script
[06:29] <posthuman> I had to do that as well
[06:29] <SpAwN> posthuman, thats waht i was doing
[06:30] <posthuman> really?
[06:30] <posthuman> odd..
[06:30] <the_hammer> spawn can i send u my config?
[06:30] <SpAwN> posthuman, but for som reason everytime i reboot they dont get loaded...and i cant just modprove it....i have to manualy reinstall evertyime
[06:30] <SpAwN> the_hammer, no
[06:30] <SpAwN> the_hammer, i dont have time to help u with a eggdrop...i got prolems of my own
[06:30] <knapper> Anyone here have a mx310?
[06:30] <the_hammer> ok
[06:30] <SpAwN> the_hammer, google
[06:31] <SpAwN> the_hammer, egghelp.org
[06:31] <the_hammer> you have 1?
[06:31] <posthuman> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:31] <the_hammer> an egg?
[06:31] <posthuman> that will re-create your xorg.conf
[06:31] <posthuman> i'd try that, and then change the driver to nvidia
[06:31] <posthuman> maybe something bad in the file?
[06:31] <posthuman> I really dont know
[06:31] <SpAwN> the_hammer, i have run very many bots............
[06:32] <SpAwN> posthuman, i will try that.........
[06:32] <the_hammer> thinkin if i had 1 that works to look at id have a better idea to what im doign wrong
[06:32] <SpAwN> posthuman, yea i had made sure nvidia driver was being used
[06:32] <the_hammer> im mentally challanged :(
[06:32] <SpAwN> the_hammer, that sucks :P
[06:32] <the_hammer> ppl say it takes 5 mins and it taook me all day and i still aint done
[06:33] <the_hammer> took*
[06:33] <pivo> how fix "BROKEN TRANSLATION" in amaroK?
[06:33] <the_hammer> ive put me as owner and HammersBot as bot
[06:33] <the_hammer> added the irc net and channels
[06:33] <the_hammer> added the time zone
[06:34] <the_hammer> telnet port, etc i think needs work
[06:34] <the_hammer> but unsure
[06:35] <the_hammer> wish when i try to conenct it would specify the exact lines needed to be fixed
[06:35] <the_hammer> make life sooooooooooooooooooo much easyer
[06:35] <the_hammer> but apperently life aint like that heh
[06:36] <SpAwN> brb gonna try to restart x after trying what posthuman said
[06:36] <posthuman> kk
[06:37] <the_hammer> thank god i was smart enough to save the bin i pasted earlyer of my config or id really be messed up
[06:37] <the_hammer> after redoing it 4 times i got smart and made a copy of my work to desktop :)
[06:38] <unix_infidel> the_hammer: try backing up anything that's sensitive necessary.
[06:38] <the_hammer> now ill never lose what i got
[06:38] <unix_infidel> sensitive / necessary.
[06:38] <unix_infidel> much smarter than copying ONE file to the desktop.
[06:38] <the_hammer> learned that the hard way lol
[06:38] <unix_infidel> you're in linux now, act like it :)
[06:39] <pivo> Guy's "BROKEN TRANSLATION" in amaroK was kill me... help me fix it, pls...
[06:39] <the_hammer> wb
[06:39] <posthuman> any luck?
[06:40] <SpAwN> posthuman, yes and no....
[06:40] <SpAwN> i restarted x nothing...........
[06:40] <SpAwN> i then rebooted the computer and its working  ow
[06:40] <SpAwN> ....so its good
[06:41] <SpAwN> thanks
[06:41] <SpAwN> +D
[06:41] <posthuman> cool
[06:41] <posthuman> :)
[06:41] <posthuman> good to here
[06:41] <SpAwN> *=D
[06:43] <the_hammer> ^THE_HAMMER^ is owner and looking at this here set notify-newusers "$owner" should i put ^THE_HAMMER^ there insted of owner?
[06:44] <the_hammer> wb cp
[06:44] <SpAwN> the_hammer, man........goto egghelp.org and READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or maby try a amore appropriate channel...ie #eggdrop
[06:44] <the_hammer> i been to them egg help rooms no one answers me
[06:45] <SpAwN> well go READ
[06:45] <the_hammer> i have been all day
[06:45] <SpAwN> there are thousands of walk throughs out there
[06:45] <posthuman> wtf is eggdrop
[06:45] <posthuman> heh
[06:45] <the_hammer> 90 % talk about hooking upto a shell
[06:45] <the_hammer> havent found to many that dont
[06:45] <cpk2> !samba
[06:45] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments.  I've extracted firefox 1.5, but when I run ./firefox-bin I get an error. Any tips?
[06:52] <SpAwN> the_hammer, thats not what i asked to see.........i need the output of when u run the eggdrop
[06:53] <the_hammer> ohhh
[06:53] <SpAwN> lmosher, use apt-get to install it
[06:53] <SpAwN> lmosher, sudo apt-get install firefox should work
[06:53] <unix_infidel> firefox ships with ubuntu.
[06:53] <unix_infidel> and kubuntu
[06:53] <unix_infidel> iirc.
[06:53] <the_hammer>  * Please make sure you edit your config file completely
[06:54] <Hawkwind> You have to enable universe/multiverse to get firefox
[06:54] <SpAwN> omg the_hammer k u need to LISTEN that error is a dead give away..........u DID NOT REMOVE WHAT I TOLD U
[06:54] <lmosher> Hawkwind: Can you explain what you mean by that?
[06:54] <abattoir> !info firefox
[06:54] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu6.06 (dapper), package size 7725 kB, installed size 22888 kB
[06:54] <abattoir> Hawkwind: it is in main...
[06:54] <the_hammer> i put # in front of die
[06:54] <Hawkwind> It's in main.....
[06:55] <Hawkwind> Heh I just did apt-cache policy to find out :P
[06:55] <SpAwN> the_hammer, if u had listened u woul dknow there is more then one
[06:55] <abattoir> ubotu is faster and more convenient :P
[06:55] <the_hammer> i did it to all of them
[06:55] <SpAwN> the_hammer, thats all im gonna help u with...u realy need to pay more attention
[06:55] <the_hammer> i used find and then i replaced soon as i seen it
[06:55] <lmosher> Is there a graphical front-end to apt-get (like yumex for yum)?
[06:55] <abattoir> lmosher: adept
[06:56] <lmosher> Ah, ok ty
[06:56] <SpAwN> the_hammer, well u obviously didnt that error ONLY happens when u dont do that..........so
[06:56] <SuperPerroFlashi> whoaaaa... lotta people
[06:56] <Hawkwind> the_hammer: Not to be rude, but you've been told all day that this is NOT the best channel since it's NOT Kubuntu related
[06:56] <abattoir> lmosher: KMenu->System->Package Manager
[06:56] <SpAwN> wel i am gonna go play some et
[06:56] <lmosher> ty
[06:57] <lmosher> Actually I ran adept to get updates, but I didn't see a way to install. Perhaps that will be obvious when the updates are done :)
[06:57] <lmosher> to clarify, I didn't see an option to install new packages.. only list and then apply the available updates. I'm sure once it's finished it'll be clear how to install new packages.
[06:57] <the_hammer> says die 4 times
[06:57] <the_hammer> and i put # in front of them
[06:58] <Hawkwind> the_hammer: Are you paying attention to what we are saying ?
[06:58] <the_hammer> ok im sorry
[06:58] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> comanse a besos esta noche, total nadie lo va notar....
[06:58] <Hawkwind> MaxQ-Zeppelinian: English ?
[06:58] <the_hammer> what about kubuntu off topic room?
[06:59] <Hawkwind> the_hammer: #Eggdrop  and be patient and wait
[06:59] <ivis> Help i remove gnome toolbar how to enable it plz help meeeee
[06:59] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> sure...
[06:59] <abattoir> !es
[06:59] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:59] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> thanx for the tip
[06:59] <Hawkwind> ivis: You mean gnome-panel ?
[06:59] <ivis> yes
[06:59] <Hawkwind> ivis: In a terminal type: gnome-panel
[07:00] <ivis> error
[07:00] <ivis> gnome panel alredy runing
[07:00] <ivis> but i got only one panel
[07:00] <Hawkwind> ivis: killall gnome-panel
[07:00] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> hey... can you remove the GnomeBar?
[07:00] <ivis> when i minimaze windows i dont see
[07:00] <knapper> How do I get xmodmap to load automatically on boot in KDE?
[07:00] <Hawkwind> ivis: Then run gnome-panel again
[07:01] <Hawkwind> ivis: I know nothing about Gnome so you might have better luck in #Ubuntu since it uses Gnome
[07:01] <knapper> Anyone know?
[07:01] <knapper> :/
[07:01] <cpk2> anyone have any experience on setting up samba shares?
[07:02] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> sorry, not me
[07:02] <knapper> cpk2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605&highlight=samba        <--- helped me alot
[07:02] <lmosher> knapper: I could be off, but I believe you can place a link in ~.kde/Autostart
[07:02] <cpk2> knapper: i already did all that =\
[07:03] <cpk2> exact walkthrough
[07:03] <lmosher> knapper: Alternativly, you could edit /usr/bin/startkde...
[07:04] <knapper> lmosher: thanks
[07:04] <lmosher> I'm trying to play a shoutcast stream w/ amarok, but getting no output. I'm assuming I need to install a -mp3 package?
[07:04] <ChefWill> !mp3
[07:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:04] <ChefWill> ^^ :)
[07:05] <the_hammer> whats your off topic chan
[07:05] <the_hammer> !off topic
[07:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about off topic - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:06] <abattoir> the_hammer: #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:06] <abattoir> !offtopic
[07:06] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:06] <knapper> lmosher: Can you give me a rundown on how to place it in kdestart
[07:07] <knapper> lmosher: cause putting it in autostart didn't work
[07:07] <knapper> :/
[07:08] <Healot> damn ubuntuans ban onion routers
[07:08] <lmosher> knapper: hrm there's got to be a way to run commands w/out manually editing startkde (that's just a little extream)
[07:08] <knapper> that shift + backspace bug is about to make me kill myself
[07:10] <knapper> Nope, still didn't
[07:10] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> i actually got a bit worried
[07:10] <knapper> What is the equivalent to gnome sessions
[07:10] <knapper> for kde
[07:11] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> what's a gnome?
[07:11] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> (hahaha)
[07:11] <Healot> $  /etc/init.d/kdm start|restart|stop
[07:11] <lmosher> knapper: according to the documents, files located in the Autostart folder have to be executable scripts
[07:12] <lmosher> knapper: So just create a text file that does like "yourbinaryfile &" and then chmod it +x and you should be OK
[07:12] <knapper> lmosher I did a+x .Xmodmap
[07:12] <knapper> still no dice
[07:12] <lmosher> what is .Xmodmap?
[07:12] <knapper> xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 8 9 6 7 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32"
[07:13] <knapper> executing that command in term makes my mouse work
[07:13] <lmosher> ah ok so it's just a text file w/ that command?
[07:13] <knapper> yea
[07:13] <lmosher> try naming it without the . in front?
[07:13] <knapper> ok
[07:13] <lmosher> like just call it /home/knapper/.kde/Autostart/startffsplease
[07:13] <lmosher> or something ;)
[07:14] <knapper> lol
[07:14] <ivis> Please help what is this problem dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem ?
[07:14] <knapper> ok here we go
[07:14] <lmosher> good luck
[07:15] <knapper> OH and do you know how I can fix this *bleep* Shift + Backspace bug in XGL?
[07:15] <knapper> off the top of your head
[07:15] <cpk2> ivis: you should probably do what it tells you
[07:15] <lmosher> no idea, this is literally my first hour using kubunu. All my exp is in fluxbox on FC :P
[07:15] <ivis> i do
[07:15] <knapper> nvm found it
[07:16] <ivis> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[07:16] <cpk2> ivis: "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[07:16] <Healot> prefix with "sudo"
[07:16] <lmosher> btw, if this was FC I would use the livna repos to get the -mp3 codecs I need. Adept doesn't show the required "ugly" gstreamer plugins - where can I find these packages?
[07:16] <ivis> ohhh
[07:16] <Healot> !find gstreamer
[07:17] <ubotu> Found: gstreamer0.10-alsa, gstreamer0.10-doc, gstreamer0.10-esd, gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs, gstreamer0.10-plugins-base (and 82 others)
[07:17] <ivis> Thanks guys ;)
[07:17] <knapper> By the blood of virgins, this better work... or else
[07:17] <knapper> brb
[07:17] <Healot> !find gstreamer0.10-ugly
[07:17] <ubotu> No packages matching 'gstreamer0.10-ugly' could be found
[07:17] <Healot> !find gstreamer0.10-mad
[07:17] <ubotu> No packages matching 'gstreamer0.10-mad' could be found
[07:17] <lmosher> !find gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[07:17] <ubotu> Found: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-dbg, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-doc, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[07:17] <lmosher> Ok, so it found it. How does this help? :)
[07:20] <RawSewage> I need Audacity help please
[07:20] <knapper> OH MY LORD
[07:20] <knapper> MY BUTTONS WORK
[07:20] <knapper> YAY REJOICE
[07:20] <RawSewage> How do I install more Nyquist Plugins
[07:21] <Healot> !info gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[07:21] <ubotu> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly: GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.10.3-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 176 kB, installed size 484 kB
[07:21] <RawSewage> I pasted the Nyquist plugins into the plug-ins directors of Audacity
[07:21] <RawSewage> but theyre not showing up when I start audacity
[07:21] <knapper> lmosher: tnx for your help. PS it wasn't working because I forgot to put #!/bin/bash at the top
[07:21] <knapper> :S
[07:21] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> hahahahaaaaaaa
[07:21] <lmosher> knapper: ahh hehe :P that'll getcha every time :)
[07:21] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> happens very often
[07:21] <lmosher> Healot: Ok how do I enable the universe repository?
[07:22] <knapper> tnx tnx tnx, this has been a problem ive been trying to figure out for more than a few weeks
[07:22] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> like looking for the glasses you're holding
[07:22] <knapper> Now I can go shower
[07:22] <knapper> ^_^
[07:24] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> have a happy shower
[07:25] <lmosher> in Adept I've gone and enabled the "universe" repo, but I still don't see the gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly package. What am i dong wrong?
[07:25] <SpAwN> lmosher, did u add the multiverse one too?
[07:25] <SpAwN> !restricted
[07:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:25] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> why don0't you check in 'apt-get.org' for other reps with the pkg?
[07:26] <SpAwN> lmosher, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:26] <lmosher> SpAwN: hrm I don't see one in there by default
[07:26] <lmosher> ahh that last link will help, ty :)
[07:26] <SpAwN> lmosher, np............just follow that one step by step  and u should be good
[07:28] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> welcome, test
[07:28] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> hahaha
[07:28] <test> Hello again. Can I get some samba help?
[07:28] <ChefWill> anyone know how to change what programs are loaded on the saved session?
[07:28] <cpk2> test i have been agonizing over samba all day =)
[07:28] <test> i think my question is rather easy
[07:29] <SpAwN> anyone know why my alsamixer settings arnt being save...ive used the command "sudo alsactl store 0" that will supposedly store the settings.....but last reboot i had to redo the settings
[07:29] <cpk2> well no one will ever know until you ask it
[07:29] <test> i just need to know how to set the username and password so i can access my samba shares from a windows computer
[07:30] <_rince_> mrgn
[07:30] <cpk2> test: smbpasswd -L -a username
[07:30] <SpAwN> test, i havent used samba in awhile....but if u set the security level to like default or standard or somthing u woul dbe able to just browse it without inputting username/pass
[07:30] <cpk2> smbpasswd -L -e username
[07:31] <test> cpk2: What does that do?
[07:32] <user_> hello World
[07:32] <user_> am new  to kubuntu
[07:33] <Healot> yes user_
[07:33] <user_> where do i start
[07:33] <test> SpAwN: I tried setting everything to default and no go.
[07:33] <SpAwN> test, ....sorry i couldnt help more...but i had the same issue....i ended up manualy editing  a samba config file...and had to change the security level or somthing like that
[07:33] <test> cpk2: smbpasswd generates all kinds of panic messages
[07:34] <SpAwN> test, buts its been a while and i forget
[07:34] <cpk2> test: first one sets the username password second one enables username
[07:34] <cpk2> sudo it
[07:35] <Steven_M> hi all
[07:36] <test> cpk2: So which one is the password? They both say username?
[07:37] <test> Steven_M: Hiya
[07:38] <test> cpk2: oh okay i get it
[07:38] <Steven_M> what version of X11 is installed from the Dapper LTS desktop cd?
[07:38] <abattoir> !info xserver-xorg
[07:38] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In repository main, is optional. Version 7.0.0-0ubuntu45 (dapper), package size 98 kB, installed size 344 kB
[07:39] <abattoir> Steven_M: ^^^^^^
[07:40] <Cornellius> Steven_M: 7
[07:40] <Cornellius> !xorg
[07:40] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:40] <Cornellius> !x11
[07:40] <Steven_M> how do I find out what version I have now?
[07:40] <test> SpAwN: Thanks for trying to help and cpk2 thank you for your help too.
[07:41] <the_hammer> cp tried to msg ya but think it didnt work
[07:41] <abattoir> Steven_M: 'sudo apt-cache policy xserver-xorg'
[07:42] <lmosher> What is the standard proceedure to get java working?
[07:42] <SpAwN> lmosher, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[07:42] <Healot> download the jdk/jre?
[07:42] <SpAwN> lmosher, use cli to instal java
[07:43] <lmosher> cli?
[07:43] <SpAwN> command line
[07:43] <cpk2> !katapult
[07:43] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[07:43] <SpAwN> adept wont install that java right
[07:43] <lmosher> can I just download/install the RPM like I would in fedora?
[07:43] <SpAwN> lmosher, trust me
[07:43] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> see ya, guys
[07:44] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> pleased to meet u
[07:44] <SpAwN> lmosher, run the command i gave you
[07:44] <MaxQ-Zeppelinian> ciao
[07:44] <cpk2> test: did it work?
[07:44] <lmosher> hrm so there's a difference between installing that w/ adept than the actual apt-get command? hrm
[07:44] <drew3> Hi all, if I switch from Mandriva to Kubuntu, Both KDE, Is there a good chance of saving most of my KDE settings?
[07:45] <SpAwN> lmosher, after u install the java use this command "sudo update-alternatives --config java" to select what one ot use...u wan to select the sun java one
[07:45] <SpAwN> lmosher, exactly right.....adept doesnt handle the         questions java asks u
[07:45] <lmosher> SpAwN: Damn sun and their license agreement, eh?
[07:45] <SpAwN> where as in cli u can manualy select it
[07:45] <SpAwN> lmosher, bingo
[07:45] <SpAwN> :P
[07:45] <cpk2> SpAwN: i saw in the wiki there is some command to run that fixes that
[07:46] <cpk2> SpAwN: but i read it too late and broke my package =\ thankfully it was pretty easy to fix
[07:46] <SpAwN> cpk2, i wasnt aware of one...but hey why not just use one simpl command
[07:46] <lmosher> SpAwN: "update-alternatives" isn't a command? did you mean sudo apt-get.. etc?
[07:46] <SpAwN> but lmosher make sure u select sun java from the second command i gave you
[07:47] <lmosher> nevermined I typed alternative, not alternatives
[07:47] <SpAwN> lmosher, step 1 run "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin" step 2 run "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[07:48] <lmosher> ok, last question about that java I just installed: where the javaplugin .so?
[07:49] <SpAwN> Healot, any reason why ya ctcp pingin me???
[07:49] <SpAwN> lmosher, that one i dont know
[07:50] <SpAwN> well im gonna go and get command and conqueror to work
[07:51] <lmosher> hrm anyone use firefox w/ kubuntu and know how to get the java plugin working?
[07:51] <lmosher> I know where the plugin file goes for firefox, but now where the plugin file is located when installing java thru apt-get vs. the RPM method. With rpm it's in /usr/java... but that dir doesn't exist.
[07:51] <Steven_M> Cornellius: the version my terminal said corresponses to the version stated in the channel, but I can remember updating  some x11 stuff
[07:54] <cpk2> !javaplugin
[07:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about javaplugin - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[07:54] <cpk2> !java
[07:54] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:55] <cpk2> apt-get sun-java5-plugin
[07:56] <lmosher> cpk2: "no installation candidate"
[07:56] <lmosher> am I missinga repo?
[08:08] <will___> hey guys
[08:09] <the_hammer> hi will
[08:09] <will___> steven_m: you're not from Idaho are you?
[08:10] <Steven_M> will___: afraid not.
[08:11] <will___> Steven_M: k.  just have a friend from here with same first and last initial
[08:12] <will___> Steven_M: does anyone know how to get all of the function keys on my dell laptop keyboard to work with linux?
[08:12] <will___> its not a necessity, but it would be nice
[08:12] <Steven_M> will___: sory for the confussion :)
[08:13] <will___> the_hammer: do you know how to enable the function keys on my laptop?
[08:13] <the_hammer> nope
[08:13] <will___> the_hammer: some work, but the wifi on/off and the volume up/down/mute don't work
[08:13] <the_hammer> ive never delt with laptop
[08:14] <will___> k
[08:14] <lmosher> What's the package name for a working flash player and firefox plugin?
[08:14] <will___> no worries
[08:16] <cpk2> !flash
[08:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:17] <cpk2> !sun-java5-plugin
[08:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about sun-java5-plugin - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[08:18] <cpk2> lmosher: the wiki says sun-java5-plugin should work if you have 6.06
[08:18] <cpk2> i guess check that you have multiverse and universe
[08:19] <lmosher> cpk2: I got java working, i'm now trying to get flash working :0
[08:19] <Lamington> I dont supposed anyone has installed X2:TheThreat on kubuntu ? I'm getting a really bad framerate
[08:19] <cpk2> lmosher: flashplugin-nonfree
[08:21] <lmosher> cpk2: I can't find that one. Closest I se is libflash-mozplugin and libflash-swfplayer... however both of those completely kill firefox...
[08:21] <lmosher> I saw flashplugin-nonfree as the suggested package, but it wasn't for 6.06
[08:25] <cpk2> lmosher: are you using konquerer?
[08:27] <lmosher> cpk2: firefox
[08:28] <cpk2> and flashplugin-nonfree should be for 6.06
[08:29] <lmosher> I don't see it anywhere in adept and I have uni/multiverse repos enabled. is there a flash repo? If I recall I had to use a separate flash repo when I used yum
[08:32] <noiesmo> lmosher, thats od its there for me when i do apt-cache search flash
[08:34] <SpAwN> the_hammer, please dont msg me asking for help...hounestly i have told you your exact problem........if u can fix what i told u to....there is not a chance in hell u will be able to use a eggdrop....it will be WAY to advanced for you
[08:34] <SpAwN> *can=cant
[08:36] <cpk2> lmosher: try "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[08:36] <lmosher> You don't believe it's not there? lol
[08:36] <Generic> This error keeps popping up when i install various apps
[08:36] <Generic> ** (process:6259): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[08:37] <lmosher> "couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree"
[08:37] <Healot> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[08:37] <cpk2> lmosher: sudo apt-get update
[08:37] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[08:37] <noiesmo> lmosher, I am in aussie and use aussie repos and its there
[08:37] <Healot> !multiverse
[08:37] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:37] <SpAwN> lmosher, u added those online sources?
[08:38] <nrdb> I just install the kubuntu livecd onto a spare partition, it isn't booting it hangs then locks up on "loading file to boot".
[08:38] <lmosher> I think i followed the multiverse instructions. You click the right click the two "universe" reos, change to "enable". Then you double-click and add the word "multiverse" correct?
[08:38] <lmosher> I followed the instructions, I think. that's what I did, anyway
[08:38] <cpk2> !easysource
[08:38] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:38] <SpAwN> lmosher, yes....did u refresh it after?
[08:38] <lmosher> yep
[08:39] <SpAwN> how many packs are availible?
[08:39] <lmosher> hrm I have no idea but it keeps hanging at 99%
[08:39] <Healot> lmosher: wrong repos... enable the "dapper" repos, not the "dapper-backport" repos...
[08:39] <SpAwN> lmosher, what hangs?
[08:39] <lmosher> ahh backport, those aren't enabled
[08:39] <SpAwN> lmosher, in adept it will tell u how many packs there are at the bottom
[08:39] <lmosher> the adept update hangs at 99% on an update
[08:40] <lmosher> it says 1541 atm
[08:40] <SpAwN> lmosher, u dont need to enable the backports
[08:40] <SpAwN> i dont think
[08:40] <lmosher> ... well the multiverse is def. enabled b/c I had to have it so to get one of the java things
[08:40] <SpAwN> lmosher, then u havent refreshed them
[08:40] <cpk2> lmosher: you might want to just use that source-o-matic link
[08:40] <SpAwN> i have over 18000 packs
[08:40] <lmosher> SpAwN: I am trying to refresh. lik eI said it keeps hanging at 99% no idea why
[08:41] <SpAwN> lmosher, hit fetch updates
[08:41] <lmosher> and all the little download things say s"done 100%" but it's not finishing
[08:41] <nrdb> can anyone help with a new install not working I installed from "kubuntu livecd 6.06" it hangs at "loading files to boot" :(
[08:41] <cpk2> lmosher: type in one of the repos?
[08:41] <cpk2> typo*
[08:41] <SpAwN> lmosher, if u have a slow puter it may just be reading the packs list...could take time on a slow puter
[08:41] <lmosher> it's not that pokey. 3500+
[08:41] <the_hammer> spawn can i msg u?
[08:42] <SpAwN> nrdb, if its the live dvd..i recomend installiung using hte text install method
[08:42] <SpAwN> the_hammer, no i have u blocked from my private messages
[08:42] <SpAwN> the_hammer, i cant help man sorry...i told u what was wrong
[08:42] <lmosher> ok I added backports, clicked 'fetch updates' and it's STILL not showing a flashplugin-nonfree package
[08:43] <the_hammer> i been workin on it found help
[08:43] <SpAwN> the_hammer, it is now out of my hands.......u can either follow what i said or actualy go read
[08:43] <the_hammer> the 1st 2 lines of #die was told remove those
[08:43] <the_hammer> so i did
[08:43] <nrdb> SpAwN: It isn't the DVD I just went though the GUI started by the install icon on the Desktop.
[08:43] <the_hammer> still wont go
[08:43] <SpAwN> nrdb, its a live disk correct?
[08:43] <nrdb> SpAwN: yes
[08:44] <SpAwN> nrdb, reboot...use text install...or dl a install cd of it
[08:44] <cpk2> lmosher: did you go to that source-o-matic page?
[08:44] <SpAwN> nrdb, the gui installer f**ked my system
[08:44] <nrdb> SpAwN: ok so I boot into the LiveCD and do what?
[08:45] <SpAwN> lmosher, try this command as root...but close adept 1st "apt-get -y update"
[08:45] <cpk2> lmosher: or you could pastebin your source.list
[08:45] <jbrouhard> Is there a way for me to get a printable list of all the packages I have installed on my desktop here ?
[08:45] <SpAwN> nrdb, well on the live dvd i had...u booted the cd/dvd...there was a few options...one will be somthing to do with text.....use that
[08:46] <lmosher> cpk2: I used yoru source-o-matic page, but if you like I can pastebin my current sources list?
[08:47] <nrdb> SpAwN: On the LiveCD I don't think there is such an option.
[08:47] <SpAwN> nrdb, there might not be.........but i would figure there woul dbe
[08:47] <nrdb> SpAwN: do you mean from the grub menu?
[08:48] <Jack1> hi where is kwallet stored for u? it never asks me to store passwords and else but its installed
[08:48] <SpAwN> nrdb, put cd in reboot....it will bring u to a screen......it will give u a few opions...if it doesnt then im not sure
[08:48] <Jack1> it doesnt appear in tray
[08:48] <cpk2> lmosher: wouldnt hurt
[08:48] <the_hammer> set die-on-sighup 0 and setdie-on-sigterm 1 i put #'s in front it wouldnt fire up so then removed #'s and still wouldnt fire up only 2 places left with the #'s infront is #die "Please make sure you edit your config file completely." and #die "Please make sure you edit your config file completely."
 #die "You didn't edit your config file completely like you were told, did you?"
[08:58] <cpk2> lmosher: i'm using the us.archive, no problems
[08:58] <the_hammer> DOESNT WORK the way ya said it would
[08:58] <the_hammer> fricken bs'r
[08:59] <cpk2> lmosher: might be a problem on your end
[09:00] <lmosher> could be
[09:00] <the_hammer> anyone else able to help me with my bot?
[09:00] <SpAwN> lmosher, can u ping the server?
[09:00] <the_hammer> ya wanna boot me for askin for help feel free got nothing to lose anyways
[09:01] <the_hammer> bot aint working now and if ya boot me it still wont be working so really i dont care
[09:01] <lmosher> it's updating now
[09:01] <lmosher> mayhaps the issue is that i'm using 64 bit?
[09:01] <the_hammer> cpk2 any ideas?
[09:02] <SpAwN> lmosher, umm i *think* there is seperate repos for 64 bit
[09:02] <SpAwN> but ive never had a 64bit puter so....
[09:02] <lmosher> SpAwN: well I used source-o-matic to build my repo and i did select my arch
[09:02] <SpAwN> lmosher, ahhhhh k cool
[09:03] <lmosher> but it definately isn't giving me flash or wine. I'm ok w/out flash but I like/need wine
[09:03] <Healot> i need flash for my camera and 3 bottles of WINE
[09:03] <SpAwN> welp its 3am here......im off to bed pz out ppl
[09:04] <the_hammer> imosher ya know anything bout bots?
[09:05] <Healot> #eggdrop >> the_hammer
[09:05] <the_hammer> im there and no one anaswering been there on/off all day for 13 hrs comming on 14
[09:06] <the_hammer> only place ppl talkin is ehre
[09:06] <Healot> yeah
[09:06] <the_hammer> and im on 4 other nets same sh*t different pile
[09:06] <Healot> but not all need eggdrop
[09:07] <lmosher> hammer: I know how to write bots for mIRC that's about it
[09:08] <skavenge> it may be a dumb question but i turn on composite transparency in window decorations/settings and it dies on me twice stating i need xorg 7 (which i have) and to input the composite setting in xorg.conf which ive done and still get the error, what gives?
[09:08] <the_hammer> i just wanna get this thing rolling i took spwans advice and put a # in front of every kill and that didnt work then was told to remove # from 1st 2 lines set die-on-sighup 0 and then setdie-on-sigterm 1 and leave the rest did that and it didnt work ither
[09:09] <will___> the_hammer: you're on here a lot
[09:09] <the_hammer> well thats what im trying to do is set up my egg drop for mirc
[09:09] <the_hammer> ya i know
[09:09] <the_hammer> hehe will i cant get my eggie workin
[09:09] <the_hammer> tried everything been told so far and still she wont go
[09:10] <will___> the_hammer: im new to this so I'm not going to be the one to ask
[09:10] <will___> the_hammer: i dont even know what an eggie is?
[09:10] <the_hammer> eggdrop is a little irc bot
[09:10] <will___> k
[09:11] <will___> the_hammer: do you use amarok?
[09:11] <the_hammer> ppl say it takes 5 mins to set 1 up but its been almost 14hrs of me trying and still no further ahead now then iw as when i started
[09:11] <the_hammer> is that a zipping tool?
[09:11] <the_hammer> looks familure i know i got it but forgte what its for
[09:11] <will___> the_hammer: no.  a music player
[09:12] <the_hammer> ahh i have it but havent tried it then
[09:12] <the_hammer> not yet anyway
[09:12] <will___> the_hammer: k.  well I was shocked at how easy it was to access my NTFS external
[09:12] <will___> the_hammer: but I can't play any music off of it
[09:13] <the_hammer> hmm strange
[09:13] <will___> the_hammer: then I copied it to the desktop so it wouldn't be coming off NTFS and I still cant get it to play
[09:13] <the_hammer> mabe try another player?
[09:13] <Healot> !mp3 > will___
[09:14] <cpk2> the_hammer: i might have found a fix for you
[09:14] <the_hammer> ok?
[09:14] <cpk2> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse
[09:14] <cpk2> you will need to uninstall what you currently have and apt-get eggdrop
[09:15] <will___> Healot: is that a command?
[09:15] <Healot> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse >> better
[09:15] <the_hammer> mabe i try tomorrow
[09:15] <cpk2> oop the_hammer wrong paste
[09:16] <cpk2> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=134223&highlight=eggdrop thats the link
[09:16] <the_hammer> ok
[09:17] <lmosher> Some directions I'm following told me to install "dpkg-dev" so that my "archive program" can open .deb files
[09:17] <lmosher> which "archive program" should I be using?
[09:20] <lmosher> the answer to my question: ar
[09:20] <the_hammer> well although i got eggdrop sitting in usr/eggdrop and i compiled,etc i dont see it in add/remove
[09:20] <the_hammer> so mabe just delete then?
[09:21] <cpk2> lmosher: 64bit directions this might be what you want https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[09:21] <the_hammer> cpk2?
[09:21] <cpk2> lmosher: nm ignore that
[09:21] <cpk2> the_hammer: make uninstall
[09:22] <the_hammer> there a sudo way?
[09:22] <cpk2> lmosher: i do hope you have looked at this at least https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[09:22] <lmosher> yeah I got java working just fine
[09:22] <cpk2> i dont think you need to sudo make uninstall unless you made it with sudo
[09:23] <the_hammer> i think i did it with sudo
[09:23] <the_hammer> used sudo for most of it
[09:24] <the_hammer> so cd /home/oem/eggdrop  and then make uninstall?
[09:25] <the_hammer> heh  *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[09:25] <the_hammer> ok tell me how to be rid of it?
[09:26] <cps1966> sudo make unistall
[09:27] <the_hammer> same thing
[09:28] <the_hammer>  *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[09:28] <the_hammer> just delete?
[09:28] <the_hammer> i was ussing ./eggdrop before