[00:00] <bobbobbins> whats the easiest way to make an iso of my ubuntu server?
[00:01] <nobody__>  undecim rebootyting will send log in a bit
[00:01] <undecim> nobody__, k
[00:03] <nobody__> undecim where is the xorg file again
[00:03] <IdleOne> /usr/lib/xorg
[00:03] <isifreek> where should i put stuff that i want to run once at boot and once at shutdown/reboot?
[00:04] <isifreek> it's one thing (a screen session with irssi in it)
[00:04] <nobody__> undecim not the file i mean the log
[00:06] <Bashing-om> nobody__: /var/log/Xorg.0.log .
[00:08] <nobody1> undecim http://paste.ubuntu.com/9737440/
[00:11] <bubbasaures> Nixus, Many hard to count.
[00:14] <bubbasaures> bobbobbins, Curious, why?
[00:14] <undecim> nobody1, Without nomodeset, the intel driver is being used.
[00:14] <Nixus> bubbasaures: what did you use after your 6 months of ubuntu?
[00:15] <undecim> nobody1, See if changing your refresh rate fixes the flicker
[00:15] <bobbobbins> bubbasaures: so I can run it in vmware
[00:15] <nobody1> undecim how would i do that?
[00:16] <bubbasaures> Nixus, 7 years ago, can't remember, found really that most are hardly any different, more are than not, it's all the linux kernel. This is offtopic though.
[00:16] <bubbasaures> are the same
[00:16] <Bashing-om> nobody1: AND " Found backlight control interface acpi_video0 (type 'firmware') for output eDP1 " . do we have lift-off ?
[00:16] <undecim> nobody1, It's in the settings somewhere. Which flavor of ubuntu are you using?
[00:17] <nobody1> undecim 14.01
[00:17] <kpgd> Hello. I am having problems with my Intel 7260 wi-fi card. It was fine on previous version, but it
[00:17] <kpgd> it's very unstable on 14.04 LTS. It keeps disconnecting from the network
[00:17] <nobody1> undecim thats as far as i know on what version i got just went to the website and got 14.01 LTS
[00:17] <undecim> nobody1, Just normal Ubuntu? You should be able to type "display" in the menu search
[00:17] <bubbasaures> bobbobbins, Well you cam make custom iso's, not a iso out of a install that I know of.
[00:18] <nobody1> undecim doesnt sayanything about refresh rate
[00:18] <bubbasaures> bobbobbins, Used to be remastersys not supported anymore is all.
[00:19] <undecim> nobody1, do "xrandr | pastebinit" in a terminal
[00:19] <undecim> nobody1, It will list the refresh and resolution options available on the card
[00:20] <nobody1> undecim http://pastebin.com/SYsDgqQ0
[00:21] <undecim> nobody1, It's already at the max refresh rate. That's not the issue
[00:21] <bubbasaures> bobbobbins, You can put that in a virtualbox vm though, not sure on vmware never used it.
[00:23] <undecim> nobody1, does the screen flicker before the login prompt appears? (i.e. during the boot splash)
[00:23] <nobody1> not sure but i think so
[00:23] <bubbasaures> I see actual images for it lighter supposedly, not sure why that was not the start.
[00:23] <nobody1> undecim cus it starts out slow at first
[00:25] <undecim> nobody1, I don't think the intel driver will work with nomodeset at all. Is there any problem other than flickering that occurs without nomodeset?
[00:26] <nobody1> undecim not that i have encountered yet. this was the first issue even in the live trial version so i wanted to solve this before anything else
[00:27] <undecim> nobody1, What happens when you change the resolution?
[00:28] <nobody1> undecim nothing changes still flickering scrreen gets smaller thats it
[00:31] <nobody1> undecim looks like the screen tearing issue is fixed though, still unable to change the display brightness
[00:31] <undecim> nobody1, The display brightness may be a different issue
[00:31] <checoimg> does ubuntu 14.1 support 32 bit EFI ?
[00:31] <undecim> nobody1, try adding "acpi_backlight=vendor" to your kernel line (where nomodeset was)
[00:31] <undecim> nobody1, It's fixed a lot of backlights for me
[00:32] <checoimg> does ubuntu 14.10 support 32 bit EFI ?
[00:32] <nobody1> where do i paste it in the line
[00:32] <hetii> Hi :)
[00:32] <checoimg> hi hetii
[00:33] <lukblack> buonasera
[00:33] <lukblack> :)
[00:33] <hetii> How can i customize message that is generate to /var/run/motd.dynamic ?
[00:33] <undecim> nobody1, doesn't matter where, as long as its after the = and has a space between it and any other word
[00:33] <Jordan_U> checoimg: I don't think it does out of the box (in the installer media). What machine do you have with 32 bit UEFI? Does it have a 64 bit CPU?
[00:33] <hetii> I don`t mean replace it by some static message but just customize it.
[00:34] <nobody1> so something like this : "quite splash acpi_backlight=vendor"
[00:34] <checoimg> Acer Iconia W510 Jordan
[00:34] <nobody1> undecim so something like this : "quite splash acpi_backlight=vendor"
[00:34] <checoimg> 32 bit cpu
[00:34] <Chakka> 32-bit efi:    http://askubuntu.com/questions/392719/32-bit-uefi-boot-support
[00:35] <undecim> nobody1, yup
[00:36] <nobody1> undecim didnt look like that did anything maybe gotta resart first
[00:36] <undecim> nobody1, Yes, restart is required
[00:36] <undecim> nobody1, Some older posts I've found suggest adding to the kernel line gfxpayload=1024x768 to fix flickering
[00:37] <Bashing-om> nobody1: -> sudo update-grub <- .
[00:37] <nobody1> undecim try it? but with 1920x1080 ?
[00:37] <checoimg> Shall I just put the bootia32 file in the EFI/Boot folder ?
[00:37] <nobody1> bashing-om yea did that already
[00:37] <checoimg> I think supre grub has 32 bit fi
[00:38] <undecim> nobody1, couldn't hurt
[00:38] <undecim> nobody1, If at some point one of the kernel options breaks your display...
[00:38] <Bashing-om> nobody1: after making the edit "quite splash acpi_backlight=vendor " ?
[00:38] <nobody1> undecim do you think 1280 or 1920
[00:38] <nobody1> bashing-om yea
[00:39] <undecim> nobody1, I don't think the resolution really matters here, but I'd do 1920x1080 to match your desktop display
[00:39] <genkiklaus> yea
[00:40] <checoimg> Wubi works fine :/ it should be easy to just install it and then install Grub with 32 bit EFI after
[00:40] <undecim> nobody1, If a kernel option breaks your display, you can change the kernel line for the duration of one boot by holding left shift when the computer starts. select the top option and press "e", and you can edit the line. Then press Ctrl-X to boot it
[00:40] <checoimg> Does Wubi still install form inside Windows ?
[00:40] <undecim> nobody1, That's if, for example, you can't even access the command line, because the display is misconfigured
[00:40] <checoimg> brb
[00:40] <undecim> Or specifically, if the kernel line is misconfigured
[00:41] <Test1Dan> oh
[00:41] <nobody1> undecim alright lets hope it doesnt come to that
[00:41] <bazhang> avoid wubi at all costs
[00:41] <Test1Dan> ^
[00:41] <mjayk> i dont know why wubi is still shipped with the 14.10 iso
[00:41] <Test1Dan> talking from this java consol
[00:41] <genkiklaus> ^
[00:42] <Test1Dan> so hwat itso what it do baby bo
[00:43] <genkiklaus> .
[00:44] <nobody1_> undecim alright well it didnt work, but at least i can say for sure it starts when the ubuntu logo pops up
[00:44] <bubbasaures> Test1Dan, Give support if you can, but please keep it there.
[00:44] <undecim> nobody1_, What about backlight?
[00:44] <Test1Dan> ohkay
[00:45] <nobody1_> undecim nothing in the brightness and lock system settings. buttons doesnt do anything either
[00:45] <Test1Dan> /join #linux
[00:45] <bubbasaures> Test1Dan, There is a offtopic channel, if you can prove you can make sentences and words that make any sense.
[00:46] <Test1Dan> /join #bash
[00:47] <checoimg> back
[00:47] <checoimg> So I cpied the file to EFI/Boot and it worked
[00:47] <bubbasaures> checoimg, No more wubi advice it is not supported
[00:47] <checoimg> I get a grub console
[00:48] <undecim> nobody1, do "ls /sys/class/backlight | pastebinit"
[00:48] <rww> EFI with WUBI is doubly-unsupported
[00:49] <bubbasaures> The designer of wubi themselves say it is a try out not a install to use.
[00:49] <bubbasaures> it was*
[00:49] <nobody1> undecim dont need to paste bin this is all it says (asus-nb-wmi  intel_backlight)
[00:50] <cliffreich> is there a way to change the ugly look of ubuntu without changing the entire desktop environment? that gnome look omg
[00:50] <cliffreich> and that unity bar
[00:50] <undecim> nobody1, Is your backlight too bright or too dim?
[00:50] <bubbasaures> cliffreich, YOu installed unity-tweak?
[00:51] <mjayk> no cliffreich if you don't like the DE then use a different DE
[00:51] <nobody1> undecim too bright it drains battery like crazy
[00:51] <undecim> nobody1, Try "echo 10 > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness"
[00:51] <bubbasaures> mjayk, That is not even close to true, please be accurate.
[00:51] <mjayk> bubbasaures: I am
[00:51] <manticpixel> Anyone in here use Gnome-do?
[00:52] <cliffreich> nope, i been using archlinux/gentoo right now but ubuntu is better for my needs right now as i don't want to focus on my system
[00:52] <bubbasaures> that is fud and you know it
[00:52] <nobody1> undecim bash: /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness: Permission denied
[00:52] <cliffreich> what the unity tweak
[00:52] <undecim> nobody1, Try "echo 10 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness"
[00:52] <bubbasaures> cliffreich, It tweaks the unity desktop
[00:52] <bubbasaures> get the name
[00:52] <bazhang> install gnome-shell cliffreich , it's an alternate gnome shell to unity
[00:53] <bubbasaures> shell is nice I use it
[00:53] <nobody1> that dimmed it but flicker still happens
[00:53] <cliffreich> oh ok
[00:53] <nobody1> undecim that dimmed it but flicker still happens
[00:53] <cliffreich> sounds like a better way to customize ubuntu
[00:53] <bazhang> mjayk, may be confused about shell and de
[00:53] <bubbasaures> cliffreich, It is pretty much all there anyway, the gnome-shell
[00:54] <undecim> nobody1, Okay, I know the fix for the backlight
[00:54] <hetii> Q: why /etc/update-motd.d/50-landscape-sysinfo is called on logout instead login ?
[00:54] <undecim> nobody1, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight#Intel_HD_Graphic_Controllers
[00:54] <nobody1> whats the command to make it brighter, its hard to see lol
[00:54] <bazhang> there are tons of plugins for gnome-shell as well cliffreich
[00:55] <hetii> when I relogin instead current system information I see that one from last login
[00:55] <hetii> what it make a bit nosense
[00:55] <bubbasaures> cliffreich, THere is gnome-tweak for the shell and a website with shell addons
[00:55] <bubbasaures> doh missed your post bazhang
[00:56] <undecim> nobody1, Press ALT+F2, type " gksu gedit /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/80-backlight.conf", and paste the lines shown at that link (from "Section" to "EndSection"), save it, and your backlight should work after reboot
[00:56] <bazhang> it happens, with the fast scroll
[00:56] <cliffreich> im taking a look right now. thanks guys
[00:57] <undecim> nobody1, as for the flicker, that's going to need a kernel line to fix (I know this because the flicker happens at the splash screen, before Xorg loads)
[00:57] <bubbasaures> cliffreich, This also install the gnome fallback a pseudo gnome 2 desktop, many like it as well.
[00:59] <nobody1> undecim alright ima resart to see if it works cus this dim light is starting to hurt
[01:02] <jakesyl_insomnia> hey is there anyway to exclude urls like domain.com/index.php?id=1 domain.com/index.php?id=2 and just get domain.com/index.php
[01:02] <Caroga> hi all
[01:03] <nobody1> undecim alright looks like it worked in the sense that i can change it in the brightness settings but button still doesnt work, which if fine by me if theres no fix for it
[01:03] <Caroga> I am searching for proxy setups on ubuntu, what would you guys recommend using ?
[01:03] <Caroga> I found squid, thought that Varnish would be a option as well. Any other recommendations ?
[01:04] <undecim> nobody1, Well the keys can still be fixed. Now that you can do it with a GUI, it means the "backend" stuff on the backlight is working properly.
[01:04] <undecim> nobody1, Found this: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Trusty_Hardware#Screen_Keeps_Flickering
[01:05] <undecim> nobody1, Menu -> System -> Administration -> Advanced -> Service Manager -> Uncheck "Detect RANDR (monitor) changes"
[01:05] <jakesyl_insomnia> so any idea?
[01:05] <nobody1> undecim where is menu lol
[01:06] <undecim> nobody1, idk... I'm on Lubuntu, which has a different frontend interface
[01:06] <nobody1> undecim oh
[01:06] <undecim> nobody1, Try searching "Service Manager" in the Unity menu
[01:07] <nobody1> doesnt show up
[01:07] <nobody1> undecim doesnt show up
[01:08] <undecim> nobody1, I'll start a LiveCD in VirtualBox and see if I can find the menu its referring to
[01:09] <nobody1> undecim ok
[01:11] <undecim> nobody1, Oops. Those instructions appear to be for KDE/Kubuntu
[01:12] <binarydepth> So I added the bootia file and it booted. Isn't this going to be added to the Ubuntu default ISO ?
[01:12] <binarydepth> I'm talking about 32 bit EFI
[01:13] <undecim> nobody1, Though it would seem to suggest that disabling xrandr would do roughly the same thing
[01:14] <undecim> nobody1, It might also prevent you from adding displays (i.e. an external monitor)
[01:14] <nobody1> undecim damn alright thats not really a priority atm so just fixing the flickering is fine
[01:16] <noxchi> Hello, does anyone know what is the command-line i should use to Find & Delete files of a specific extention in a specific folder ?
[01:17] <Stanley00> noxchi: you can use find :3
[01:17] <Caroga> noxchi what extension ?
[01:18] <Caroga> because with find you could do something like:" find . -name '*.exe' -delete"
[01:18] <Stanley00> noxchi: find /path/to/your/dir -iname '*.ext' <= to make sure it works, then find /path/to/your/dir -iname '*.ext' -delete to delete it
[01:18] <Caroga> Stanley00 ever made a proxy using ubuntu ?
[01:18] <noxchi> i mean, to find and delete files in one command.... i have like 144 GB of data that i dont need ... extentins are txt and doc are not needed at all, and they are like 4 something million files... i dont need them all...
[01:19] <undecim> nobody1, Press ALT+F2, type " gksu gedit /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/01-server-flags.conf", and paste these lines: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9738335/
[01:19] <Caroga> noxchi read back :)
[01:19] <noxchi> aha
[01:19] <undecim> nobody1, Actually, don't do that
[01:19] <Stanley00> Caroga: nope, sorry, but I heard that squid is quite good. Is that for personal use?
[01:20] <undecim> nobody1, Use  "gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf",
[01:20] <nobody1> undecim alright ill stay on standby
[01:20] <Caroga> Stanley00 somehow yes and no.
[01:20] <Caroga> I've read about squid.
[01:20] <nobody1> undecim and paste the same thing?
[01:20] <Caroga> dont know if it's what i need.
[01:20] <undecim> nobody1, yup
[01:20] <noxchi> ill give it a shot :D
[01:21] <nobody1> undecim alright saved it now what
[01:21] <Stanley00> Caroga: you can have a look at here, polipo is simple for non-enterprise use :3 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Category:Proxy_servers
[01:21] <nobody1> undecim resart?
[01:21] <undecim> nobody1, yup
[01:21] <nobody1> undecim alright brb
[01:22] <Delta706> I have a new motherboard and now sound is not working. Might I need the latest version of pulseaudio?
[01:23] <Caroga> thanks Stanley00
[01:23] <Caroga> I will read into it
[01:23] <Stanley00> Caroga: welcome :3
[01:23] <bubbasaures> Delta706, Here we work with what is in the ubuntu repo, so decribe the issue to the channel.
[01:23] <micah> so these pages about how to get software into the software center used to exist, but now they dont and the only thing on developer.ubuntu.com are things related to mobile, where is the non-mobile stuff gone? http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/apps/other-forms-of-submitting-apps/my-apps-packages/ http://developer.ubuntu.com/2012/02/how-to-prepare-a-compiled-application-for-ubuntu-software-center/ ?
[01:24] <nobody1> undecim looks like it didnt fix it
[01:24] <Delta706> bubbasaures: I am using 14.04 and getting no sound from the speaker
[01:24] <undecim> nobody1, Can you paste Xorg.0.log to check that the settings were loaded?
[01:25] <bubbasaures> Delta706, Not me the channel is all. ;)
[01:25] <undecim> nobody1, Can you paste Xorg.0.log to check that the settings were loaded?
[01:25] <nobody1> undecim alright gotta look for the file path again
[01:25] <undecim> nobody1, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:26] <bubbasaures> !sound | Delta706 a little to look at while waiting
[01:26] <nobody1> undecim http://paste.ubuntu.com/9738410/
[01:28] <jakesyl_insomnia> so any idea?
[01:28] <jakesyl_insomnia> hey is there anyway to exclude urls like domain.com/index.php?id=1 domain.com/index.php?id=2 and just get domain.com/index.php when running wget -r
[01:28] <undecim> nobody1, Okay, strangely the log simultaneously reports that the config was loaded, but randr was still loaded
[01:28] <Rescis> Anyone here play Metro Last Light or Metro 2033 (Redux)?
[01:28] <undecim> nobody1, I think maybe "off" was the wrong value to use in those lines
[01:29] <Rescis> I can;t get it to load properly, tells me I need OpenGL 4.0 or higher.
[01:29] <undecim> nobody1, Try editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and changing "off" to "True" in the 2 lines in the ServerFlags sections
[01:29] <nobody1> undecim so yes instead? whats the command to get to te file
[01:30] <tigrang> jakesyl_insomnia, wget --reject-regex '(.*)\?(.*)' domain.com/index.php
[01:30] <undecim> nobody1, ALT+F2 "gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" for GUI
[01:30] <undecim> nobody1, "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" for CLI
[01:31] <Stanley00> jakesyl_insomnia: you can try "wget --reject-regex '(.*)\?(.*)' http://example.com"
[01:32] <undecim> nobody1, Sorry, I should have told you to change it to "False"
[01:32] <undecim> nobody1, got my booleans backwards
[01:32] <nobody1> undecim good thing im slow so False with capital f?
[01:32] <nobody1> undecim heard linux is case sensative
[01:33] <jakesyl_insomnia> tigrang/stanley00 how do i also exclude mp3/mp4 in that regular expression?
[01:33] <tigrang> jakesyl_insomnia, add -R mp3,mp4
[01:34] <tigrang> -R is reject suffixes
[01:34] <nobody1> undecim alright restarting
[01:34] <undecim> nobody1, Yes, should be capital
[01:35] <jakesyl_insomnia>  okay so here's what I got: wget -r  --reject-regex '(.*)\?(.*)' -R mp3,mp4 domain.com
[01:35] <jakesyl_insomnia> and it's aying invalid
[01:35] <jakesyl_insomnia> saying*
[01:36] <MikeHaff> can i get a hand
[01:37] <bubbasaures> !ask | MikeHaff
[01:38] <MikeHaff> Trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 on a Toshiba Satellite C55-B2750 but it doesnt want to boot via disc or USB and there's menu to press f2 or f12 for bios and boot options
[01:38] <nobody1> undecim looks like it didnt work
[01:38] <undecim> nobody1, I checked the xorg manual, and the "off" should have worked just the same as "false"
[01:38] <undecim> nobody1, Linux is case-sensitive in many cases. But not in xorg.conf.
[01:39] <nobody1> undecim well sad day both of it didnt work
[01:39] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, Small list here to ask, did you check the sum of the iso, how did you load it to the usb? Is this a uefi bios?
[01:39] <MikeHaff> Im booting via disc
[01:40] <MikeHaff> I always burn to disc. USB never works for me
[01:40] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, Right asked three questions, how does what I asked relate?
[01:40] <jakesyl_insomnia> MikeHaff do a checksum
[01:40] <bubbasaures> md5sum | MikeHaff if needed, great place to start.
[01:41] <bubbasaures> !md5sum
[01:41] <bubbasaures> sorry
[01:41] <jakesyl_insomnia> So any ideas, I think I'm following the docs, but I'm not sure.  Anyway i can include the mp3/mp4 in the regex
[01:41] <MikeHaff> Forgot to mention, the sum is fine, I checked it, and it installed on my Dell Precision Workstation 690 just fine.
[01:42] <MikeHaff> And im not sure what kinds of bios it is because there is no option to boot into bios. Windows 8.1 if that matters
[01:42] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, Great that helps, so what happens when you try what do you see?
[01:42] <bubbasaures> !uefi | MikeHaff Hugely important if uefi/gpt you have to check
[01:42] <jakesyl_insomnia> I think I found part of the issue, it's saying --reject-regex isn't a valid option
[01:43] <MikeHaff> I reboot and it shows me the toshiba logo, then right into windows 8. No keyboard options during boot for bios or boot options.
[01:43] <MikeHaff> How do i check
[01:43] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, This straight from toshiba with W8?
[01:43] <jakesyl_insomnia> keep hitting the f keys during boot, it'll tale you to something useful eventually
[01:43] <jakesyl_insomnia> f1,f2,f3,f4....
[01:43] <MikeHaff> Yes
[01:44] <undecim> nobody1, What resolutions did you try with gfxpayload?
[01:44] <Jordan_U> MikeHaff: Windows 8 in its settings should have an option to boot into firmware configuration.
[01:44] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, Thanks, Jordan_U is really up on this stuff.
[01:44] <nobody1> undecim 1920X1080
[01:44] <MikeHaff> That was the next thing i tried. It didnt even boot via DVD from restarting in the windows 8 advanced settings menu
[01:44] <undecim> nobody1, try 1024x768
[01:45] <undecim> nobody1, Other than that, I'm out of ideas
[01:45] <nobody1> the gksudo isnt bringing up the file
[01:46] <undecim> nobody1, gksu?
[01:46] <nobody1> undecim after i do gksudo geddit /etc/default/grub and type in password it doesnt do anything it just goes to next command line like i didnt type anything to begin with
[01:47] <undecim> nobody1, it's "gksu gedit"
[01:47] <nobody1> undecim sudo does the same thing too
[01:47] <nobody1> undecim following that http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[01:48] <undecim> nobody1, if you have another Gedit window open, it might just open a new tab in that window
[01:48] <MikeHaff> Jordan_U: That was the next thing i tried. It didnt even boot via DVD from restarting in the windows 8 advanced settings menu
[01:48] <undecim> does gedit have tabs?
[01:49] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, Take a look at that bots message, there are things needed in general turned off and adjusted to install ubuntu. If your in the hybrid boot that is a barrier.
[01:49] <nobody1> undecim no i dont
[01:49] <MikeHaff> "In your BIOS, disable QuickBoot/FastBoot and Intel Smart Response Technology (SRT). If you have Windows8, also disable FastStartup."
[01:49] <MikeHaff> I cannot enter BIOS
[01:50] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, Do you know what I mean by hybrid boot?
[01:50] <MikeHaff> No..
[01:50] <Stanley00> jakesyl_insomnia: --reject-regex works for me. Can you find for it in 'wget --help'?
[01:50] <Jpmh> I am using what I believe to be an unmodified ubuntu 12.04 - yet when I type: vi -x somefile, I get the message that it is an unknown argument.  What am I missing here?
[01:51] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, That is the fast boot, you want to be off when you start, windows has a hybrid sleep/hibernate fast boot.
[01:51] <MikeHaff> How can i disable it if i cant get into bios
[01:51] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, You make sure you have turned the computer fully off, just a guess here that you're not.
[01:52] <undecim> nobody1, If gedit isn't working, have you tried 'sudo nano'?
[01:52] <bubbasaures> than adjust the bios
[01:52] <nobody1> undecim nano works
[01:52] <nobody1> undecim idk how to use it though
[01:52] <MikeHaff> Yes. Full shut down. Then when it boots up there is no option to enter bios, just a boot splash screen and then right into windows 8
[01:53] <undecim> nobody1, It's pretty straight forward. Like  GUI text editor without mouse control
[01:53] <nobody1> undecim after i change it to120x720 what do i press
[01:53] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, You might look around for the bios access on that model and or ask in windows, we can only cover so much of the windows part assuming you have the skill set, which I suspect you do.
[01:54] <nobody1> undecim *1280
[01:54] <MikeHaff> I do. I'll look into it
[01:54] <MikeHaff> thanks
[01:54] <bubbasaures> we want you to succeed, some have more skills than others in this area is all.
[01:56] <bubbasaures> should have mentioned don't mention dual boot in windows, gets real quite there than.
[01:57] <undecim> nobody1, you should change it to 1024x768
[01:57] <undecim> nobody1, then ctrl+w to save ("write")
[01:57] <undecim> nobody1, and ctrl+x to exit
[01:58] <undecim> nobody1, then sudo update-grub to confirm the changes
[01:58] <nobody1> undecim i dont think cntr w is it cus it brought up a searh
[01:58] <undecim> nobody1, Sorry, ctrl+o
[01:59] <undecim> Not exactly intuitive...
[01:59] <nobody1> undecim alright time to restart lets hope this works
[02:02] <jerphtht> I'm having a dual boot issue  - i tried installing ubuntu alongside win 7 and the bootloader doesn't load at startup. It's a laptop with an ssd with 3 partitions (win, root, and linuxswap) and a second ntfs hd.
[02:02] <bubbasaures> jerphtht, Have you tried having either HD as the first read to boot?
[02:03] <nobody1> undecim nope didnt work still flickering
[02:03] <undecim> nobody1, 'fraid I'm out of ideas then.
[02:03] <undecim> nobody1, I've never had this much trouble with Intel :/
[02:04] <nobody1> undecim dam guess gotta just use nomodeset
[02:04] <jerphtht> will try that now bubbasaures
[02:04] <undecim> nobody1, What are the cons to nomodeset? I know that the graphics performance will be crap...
[02:05] <undecim> nobody1, Actually, I just got one more idea...
[02:05] <undecim> nobody1, I have to look something up though
[02:05] <nobody1> undecim alright lets try it
[02:06] <militantpotato> Hey, I have a dual monitor setup, with a TV connected via an HDMI cable, and my monitor through DVI.  I'm having an issue with GRUB where it only displays on the Television, which is annoying because it is either off, or being used for something else.  What do I add/change in the grub config to force it to show on my primary display (monitor).  I'm using Kubuntu 14.04
[02:07] <undecim> nobody1, nevermind, the gfxpayload option also does the change that I had in mind
[02:08] <nobody1> undecim darn alright ill just put nomodeset ack
[02:10] <undecim> nobody1, you can try setting GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768 in /etc/default/grub (it's about halfway down. You need to remove the # at the beginning of the line)
[02:11] <Bashing-om> nobody1: An Intell "nomodeset" paramater  i915.modeset=1  ...
[02:11] <undecim> Bashing-om, is that any different that "nomodeset"?
[02:11] <undecim> than*
[02:11] <nobody1> undecim do i leave the gfx in the quite spash line?
[02:12] <bubbasaures> militantpotato, This make any sense, "System Settings > Display and Monitor" there is a star on each display that you can click to set which is primary.
[02:12] <militantpotato> bubbasaures: All is well with the primary display setting once Xorg fires up.  It's just the GRUB menu that is on the wrong display.
[02:13] <Bashing-om> undecim: Yeah .. Like you I am not aware that the kernel with Intel recognizes "nomodeset" as Nvidia or ATI do .
[02:13] <bubbasaures> militantpotato, Not used kubuntu but is the 2nd one set as a primary?
[02:13] <bubbasaures> as well
[02:14] <militantpotato> bubbasaures: Negative. My monitor is set as primary (it also has my tool bar and desktop icons, so I believe it is working properly.)
[02:14] <undecim> nobody1, yes, but set it to "keep"
[02:14] <bubbasaures> militantpotato, You might ask in #grub not sure myself.
[02:15] <militantpotato> bubbasaures: I believe I need to modify grub.conf with something specifying the default monitor.
[02:15] <Bashing-om> undecim: nobody1 Later Intel cards use " i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 ". Do not know where the Haswel card falls into .
[02:15] <undecim> nobody1, When you restart, you might have problems with nomodeset. With the backlight fix, we explicitly declared the card as one that requires the intel driver.
[02:15] <militantpotato> bubbasaures: Already ahead of ya, waiting on a reply :)
[02:15] <bubbasaures> good job
[02:15] <undecim> nobody1, then again, it might force intel to take over...
[02:15] <undecim> nobody1, If it does something funny, let me know
[02:15] <strangle> undecim: Intel has taken over
[02:16] <nobody1> undecim wait idk what to put can you send me a pastebin of what it should look like http://pastebin.com/dNLTKbKh
[02:17] <bubbasaures> militantpotato, /etc/default/grub is the config you change with if that is the answer
[02:17] <undecim> nobody1, at the end of GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT, add "gfxpayload=keep"
[02:18] <undecim> nobody1, and don't forget to sudo update-grub
[02:18] <snyp> Ubuntu doesn't seem to save my powertop settings
[02:18] <strangle> No nobody1
[02:19] <nobody1> undecim alright restarting lets see where this takes me
[02:20] <bubbasaures> snyp, kinda old but probably right, you might search through this source as well. http://askubuntu.com/questions/112705/how-do-i-make-powertop-changes-permanent
[02:21] <snyp> bubbasaures, ok
[02:21] <undecim> strangle, You mad about something?
[02:21] <bubbasaures> snyp, YOU didn't metion the release you have 3 supported so I just searched with ubuntu, kinda loose foo
[02:22] <hetii> Q: Why I get different output: http://pastebin.com/qByDqpRu
[02:22] <nobody1> undecim looks like it didnt do anything time to just put back no modeset
[02:23] <strangle> nobody1: nomodeset is the lazy way oit
[02:24] <nobody1> strangle we spent about 6 hrs trying to figure this out
[02:24] <nobody1> strangle whats the way out then
[02:24] <undecim> strangle, You know how to fix the flicker then?
[02:25] <strangle> undecim: lower resolution.
[02:25] <undecim> strangle, nope, tried that
[02:26] <strangle> undecim: try progressive output
[02:26] <undecim> strangle, how?
[02:27] <strangle> Are you using hdmi
[02:27] <undecim> strangle, It's a laptop using eDP
[02:28] <undecim> strangle, xrandr output (kms enabled) http://pastebin.com/SYsDgqQ0
[02:28] <strangle> And you use Intel undecim
[02:29] <undecim> strangle, I've had intel cards in the past. Don't have one currently
[02:29] <strangle> undecim: what's your gpu
[02:29] <Magnus__> How do I install the Xubuntu desktop, xfce4 or whatever. I am looking for an ultrafast desktop environment
[02:30] <undecim> strangle, whatever Radeon comes with an A10
[02:30] <undecim> nobody1, has an intel Haswell (that's the one we're trying to fix the flicker on)
[02:31] <undecim> strangle, Xorg.conf (KMS enabled) http://paste.ubuntu.com/9737440/
[02:31] <undecim> strangle, With nomodeset, fbdev driver takes over the display
[02:31] <strangle> undecim: so it's generic driver
[02:32] <undecim> strangle, no, without nomodeset, it loads the intel driver
[02:32] <undecim> but it flickers, starting with the boot splash
[02:33] <Magnus__> How do I install the Xubuntu desktop, xfce4 or whatever. I am looking for an ultrafast desktop environment
[02:33] <noxchi> how can i get a list of file extensions in a directory ? Not: directory contains around 73K files ... all i need is something like ( .jpg .mp3 .doc .zip ... ) and so on ... any help please?
[02:34] <strangle> undecim: Did you try installing fglrx
[02:34] <noxchi> oh, for my question above, im asking for the COMMAND line to do what i need,,,,
[02:34] <undecim> strangle, dont think fglrx will help on intel cards...
[02:35] <Bashing-om> Magnus__: Ultra fast is a core install, and only install the applications "you" want .
[02:35] <strangle> undecim: You have dual GPU. ?? Intel and AMD.
[02:35] <Magnus__> How do I do a core install?
[02:35] <undecim> noxchi, probably a sed command and | uniq will do it
[02:36] <undecim> strangle, I have a perfectly functioning AMD gpu running 2 1080p displays with no problem
[02:36] <Bashing-om> Magnus__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall .
[02:36] <undecim> strangle, I was helping someone else fix a problem they were having with an Intel card
[02:37] <noxchi> undecim: can you explain? im not good with commans at all ..
[02:37] <undecim> noxchi, gimme a minute to figure it out
[02:37] <undecim> noxchi, need to find my regex cheat sheet
[02:37] <noxchi> Okay
[02:37] <strangle> undecim: so it's him not you with problem
[02:37] <undecim> strangle, correct
[02:38] <MikeHaff> So as it turns out, my system is configured with UEFI Boot
[02:38] <strangle> MikeHaff: that's okay.
[02:38] <snyp> bubbasaures, i am on ubuntu 14.04. sorry didn't notice your message. i think that will work, it uses some brute force kind of thing, like executing the commands everytime on boot. on arch it gets saved automatically
[02:39] <bubbasaures> snyp, Great, enjoy.
[02:39] <sgp667> does anyone here have any experience with command line calendar/todo apps?
[02:39] <snyp> hm
[02:39] <MikeHaff> okay. I firgured out i have to enter bios from andvanced startup menu in windows 8. but still cant boot via disc. even tried putting my disc drive as boot order first
[02:40] <undecim> noxchi, Probably a "prettier" way to do it, but: ls | sed 's/.*\./\./' | grep '\.' | uniq
[02:41] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, How fast were you booting to windows before you got to the bios when you were fully off?
[02:41] <undecim> in particular, I'm sure the sed and grep could be put into one command
[02:41] <strangle> MikeHaff: can't boot Windows or ubuntu or both in bios mode.
[02:42] <nobody1> undecim so should i just put nomodeset back?
[02:42] <undecim> nobody1, that sounds like the only way to get rid of flicker
[02:42] <MikeHaff> I cant boot into Bios strangle. I have to enter windows 8>PC Settings>Recovery>Advanced Start Up> Advanced Options> UEFI Boot Options. After i select that it doesnt even present the toshiba splash screen on reboot into UEFI Boot Options
[02:42] <undecim> nobody1, I've seen some posts saying that upgrading to 14.10 fixes it
[02:42] <strangle> nobody1: Are you on laptop
[02:43] <undecim> nobody1, But that's no guarantee
[02:43] <nobody1> stangle yes
[02:43] <undecim> strangle sounds like he has some ideas on fixing it if you want to continue
[02:43] <nobody1> undecim is it hard to upgrade like do i have to start from the beginning or just type something in CLI
[02:44] <strangle> MikeHaff: oh you want the Toshiba splash screen.
[02:44] <MikeHaff> no
[02:44] <noxchi> undecim: hmm, forgive my stupidity here, say my directory is ( /home/user/folder ) and inside there tons of folders containing thousands of files, how to use ls to get files extensions ? i appretiare your help :)
[02:44] <undecim> noxchi, You want it to recurse into directories?
[02:45] <MikeHaff> Im on windows 8, booting into it no problem. i needed to get into bios or uefi boot which i had to do via windows 8 advanced start up
[02:45] <strangle> MikeHaff: is their a secure boot option in uefi.
[02:45] <undecim> nobody1, you just have to type "do-release-upgrade" in the terminal
[02:45] <noxchi> no, i want to determine which types i should delete after that ,, because i have many  i dont need and it takes forever to open them using GUI
[02:46] <MikeHaff> there were no boot options
[02:46] <nobody1> undecim alright ill try that then
[02:46] <MikeHaff> beyond drive options
[02:46] <strangle> MikeHaff: during boot tap f12
[02:46] <MikeHaff> im trying to install ubuntu on a machine that doesnt let me pick a boot option
[02:46] <nobody1> undecim it says no new release found
[02:46] <undecim> noxchi, I don't understand what you're asking. You want a list of which extensions are there, like ".txt", ".doc", etc?
[02:47] <undecim> nobody1, You're on 14.04 LTS, or 14.10?
[02:47] <MikeHaff> strangle, windows 8 computers dont allow that
[02:47] <undecim> MikeHaff, yes they do
[02:47] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, you might do a vm till you figure this out, we have people wipe there set ups and brick at times.
[02:47] <MikeHaff> thats why i had to get into UEFI boot from windows
[02:47] <undecim> MikeHaff, I installed Lubuntu on 4 Win8 computers in 1 hour yesterday
[02:47] <MikeHaff> All i need now is how to install ubuntu in UEFI
[02:47] <undecim> MikeHaff, You need to disable fast boot
[02:47] <nobody1> undecim in the details it says 14.04 LTS
[02:47] <undecim> MikeHaff, It's in the "Choose what the power button does" section
[02:48] <undecim> MikeHaff, Also, you have to use the 64-bit version
[02:48] <MikeHaff> ill look again
[02:48] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, The manufacturers have their own fork of uefi, there is no exact method, but a series of options as seen in the urfi bot info.
[02:48] <undecim> nobody1, maybe you need to use "-d" for development version.
[02:48] <MikeHaff> I am using the 64 bit version
[02:48] <noxchi> undecim: yes .. i want to get the extensions inside...  so i can later choose extensions to delete ,,, like this (find /home/user/folder -name *.extention  -delete) ....
[02:48] <bubbasaures> uefi*
[02:48] <undecim> noxchi, Then you will want to use the "find" command
[02:48] <strangle> MikeHaff: tapping f12 during boot on most Toshiba's Will enter boot device options. Setup will also be an option
[02:49] <noxchi> undecim: i have many file types in there ... isnt there a command that gives me the types inside the folder?
[02:50] <undecim> noxchi, use "find /path/to/directory -type f -name '*.*' | sed 's/.*\./\./' | uniq"
[02:50] <nobody1> undecim so whats the whole command then
[02:50] <Bashing-om> nobody1: -> grep Prompt= /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades <- to release upgrade 14.04/14.10 .. "prompt-normal' .
[02:50] <undecim> noxchi, that will list all the extensions in the directory
[02:50] <noxchi> Great
[02:50] <undecim> nobody1, do-dist-upgrade -d
[02:51] <nobody1> undecim no doesnt work
[02:51] <undecim> nobody1, sorry, do-release-upgrade -d
[02:52] <noxchi> undecim: i got this (find: `f': No such file or directory )
[02:52] <kokut> hello, anyone knows a good alternative to subdownloader?
[02:52] <nobody1> undecim alright its running
[02:52] <undecim> noxchi, put a space between the directory and -type
[02:52] <undecim> noxchi, Also, you can simply use "./" to refer to the current directory
[02:53] <MikeHaff> disabled secureboot
[02:53] <undecim> noxchi, If you want to DELETE EVERY instance of a specific extension in a directory, then you use "find /path/to/directory -iname '*.ext' -delete"
[02:53] <MikeHaff> still no f2 f12 option
[02:53] <undecim> noxchi, If you want to simply list the files (so you can look over the list, before deleting it), you leave out the "-delete" option.
[02:53] <undecim> MikeHaff, Not just secureboot
[02:53] <undecim> MikeHaff, Fastboot
[02:54] <undecim> or "fast startup" or whatever the MS team called it
[02:54] <MikeHaff> where is it because i didnt see anything else in power management
[02:54] <noxchi> undecim: yeah ive already used the -delete command.... and thanks the command u gave me above is working... its listing the extensions right now ... i have tones of them
[02:54] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, So even if you boot ubuntu, you have to resize windows with it's partitioner for a unallocated space for ubuntu.
[02:54] <undecim> MikeHaff, It's under a section titled something like "Choose what the power button does"
[02:54] <undecim> MikeHaff, It should be on the left-hand side in the power options
[02:55] <MikeHaff> it isnt
[02:55] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, THat for me?
[02:55] <Nathan2055> What is the recommend amount of RAM for Ubuntu?
[02:55] <undecim> MikeHaff, http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-disable-or-enable-fast-startup-in-windows-8-1/
[02:55] <strangle> MikeHaff: when their look for option to change hidden items
[02:55] <MikeHaff> Bubb i havent even gotten to ubuntu yet
[02:56] <MikeHaff> still trying to tell windows to eff off lol
[02:56] <bubbasaures> MikeHaff, You can tab complete nicks.
[02:56] <undecim> Nathan2055, If you have less than 512MB, you should consider Xubuntu or Lubuntu
[02:56] <noxchi> undecim: one last questions please, can i delete more than file type like this (find /path/to/directory -iname '*.txt' '*.doc' '*mp3' -delete ) ?
[02:57] <Nathan2055> I have 4GB in this laptop, I'm just wondering how much I should allocate to the VM?
[02:57] <bubbasaures> Nathan2055, 3 seconds to find https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[02:57] <undecim> noxchi, You can use multiple -iname, if you put -o (for "or") in between
[02:57] <MikeHaff> undecim, thanks. now i shall try again, lol
[02:57] <undecim> noxchi, find /directory/ -iname '*.txt' -o -iname '*.doc'
[02:58] <undecim> noxchi, Be careful though. You can leave out -delete the first time to double-check what files will be deleted
[02:58] <noxchi> Great ... Thank you undecim :) u saved my day :)
[02:58] <strangle> Nathan2055: some recommend matching your ram.
[02:58] <undecim> noxchi, Also, if you're trying to make space, check out baobab
[02:59] <Nathan2055> Won't that make the Windows 7 host go boom, though?
[02:59] <noxchi> ill do
[02:59] <undecim> Nathan2055, 512MB Should be enough if you aren't doing anything Ram-intensive
[03:00] <Nathan2055> kk
[03:00] <undecim> Nathan2055, I've got an Ubuntu VM running just fine on in VirtualBox on 512MB ram, and 20% of a 4GHz core.
[03:01] <strangle> Nathan2055: oh I was think swap. On VM. It really won't slow it down using minimum ram. It will use system ram as needed anyway
[03:01] <Nathan2055> I assume max graphics memory, right?
[03:01] <undecim> Nathan2055, from the looks of it, I could get it down to 128MB
[03:01] <bubbasaures> undecim, ubuntu with a desktop, on 512?
[03:01] <undecim> Nathan2055, Actually, correction. This is Lubuntu I've got, not Ubuntu
[03:01] <bubbasaures> ah the truth ;)
[03:02] <undecim> I'm curious now, how low I can get Ubuntu
[03:02] <Nathan2055> How low can you go! How low can you go!
[03:02] <Nathan2055> :PP
[03:02] <Nathan2055> *:P
[03:02] <undecim> i'll try Lubuntu on 128MB first
[03:03] <bubbasaures> net installs of lubuntu can get a very small ram use
[03:03] <undecim> With a VM you can run the installer, then decrease the RAM later
[03:03] <quickputty> hello, anyone familiar with rsync?
[03:03] <undecim> quickputty, Ask your question and find out
[03:04] <garhowe45> heelo
[03:04] <quickputty> rsync are often use to sync source -->destination. is it possible to ask rsync to sync equally both. so if i put a folder will be sync
[03:04] <strangle> nobody1: what's your gpu and system
[03:04] <quickputty> so like, both can be source and destination
[03:04] <undecim> quickputty, You just run it twice
[03:05] <quickputty> wat do you mean
[03:05] <bubbasaures> quickputty, You want a auto rsync?
[03:05] <undecim> quickputty, But doing this makes one directory take precedence
[03:05] <nobody1> strangle my computer is asus q502l
[03:05] <quickputty> bubbasaures - not sure what you mean by auto rsync
[03:05] <quickputty> i need to be able to edit both folder
[03:05] <quickputty> and both folder is always sync
[03:05] <undecim> quickputty, I.e. if you sync A->B first, then files on A will overwrite files on B, but new files from B will appear on A
[03:05] <strangle> nobody1: what gpu
[03:05] <undecim> quickputty, I think BitTorrent Sync is what you want
[03:05] <bubbasaures> quickputty, automatic, or daily.....etc
[03:05] <quickputty> automatic would be great
[03:06] <undecim> quickputty, It's a persistent Sync, like Dropbox or similar, but connects directly between two computers
[03:06] <quickputty> undecim its on same computer
[03:06] <undecim> quickputty, Or any number of computers, for that matter.
[03:06] <quickputty> its 2 folder
[03:06] <bubbasaures> quickputty, cool thanks for confirming the end goal.
[03:06] <Nathan2055> Should I enable 3D acceleration on the VM? I went ahead and gave it max video RAM after what happened last night: http://i.imgur.com/xxcpm3B.png
[03:07] <undecim> quickputty, You could use a link or a bind to make the folders point to the same place?
[03:07] <undecim> Nathan2055, If this is VirtualBox with a Linux host, it doesn't matter
[03:07] <nobody1> strangle intel hd graphics 4400
[03:07] <quickputty> bubbasaures - well i have 2 folders with pictures inside. i often upload in the folder1 but my wife upload in folder2
[03:07] <Nathan2055> Alright, I'll leave it on then.
[03:07] <quickputty> i need both to be sync.
[03:08] <bubbasaures> quickputty, Looks like your being helped to me.
[03:08] <quickputty> undecim, its not my goal, bcuz both are in diffrerent hard drive. make it safer
[03:08] <maestrojed> Suddenly I am having input (keyboard and mouse) issues with my ubuntu desktop machine. The best way I can describe it is I can't click on most icons/buttons/elements but not all. Examples: System Settings Dialog - I can't click on any icon but I can click into the search box, input text, click in the text and move the curser, etc. Firefox: I can't click into the address bar but I can tab there and input text and then click in the
[03:08] <maestrojed>  text to move the curser. I can't click on the Close|Min|Max marbles in any application.
[03:08] <undecim> quickputty, gotcha
[03:08] <Nathan2055> Alright, here I go with the install...
[03:08] <nobody1> strangle im in the middle of upgraing to 14.10 to se if that works
[03:08] <undecim> Is there an rsync option to prevent overwriting?
[03:08] <quickputty> undecim : any sigestion?
[03:09] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, can you log out than in?
[03:09] <bubbasaures> or have you?
[03:09] <undecim> quickputty, I would do a cron job that runs rsync twice
[03:09] <undecim> quickputty, or just use "cp -n"
[03:09] <maestrojed> bubbasaures I have rebooted. I have been trouble shooting this for days. I haven't ask in here yet cause it seems so ill defined
[03:10] <quickputty> undecim - this wont work bcuz if i edit afile in the folder1 and folder2 got sync first. my file will dispear or replaced
[03:10] <demoun> .
[03:10] <maestrojed> Also I am getting an error when I run updates that only partial updates could complete. Though it doesn't tell me why. I am not sure if that is related
[03:10] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, check if the guest is the same.
[03:10] <maestrojed> bubbasaures ok
[03:10] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, Did you run any partial upgrades?
[03:11] <maestrojed> bubbasaures yes
[03:11] <undecim> quickputty, there is an rsync option to check for sync based on modification time
[03:11] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, THat is a huge mistake.
[03:11] <undecim> quickputty, i.e. the file with the latest modification time gets to be overwritten
[03:11] <demoun> 你们的速度好快..
[03:11] <bubbasaures> !cn | demoun
[03:11] <demoun> can i speak here
[03:11] <maestrojed> bubbasaures oh no :) I felt I was following what the dialog boxes were recommending
[03:11] <undecim> quickputty, correction, earliest modification time gets overwritten
[03:12] <maestrojed> bubbasaures guest acct works
[03:12] <maestrojed> bubbasaures let me switch back and confirm I still have an issue
[03:12] <undecim> quickputty, I think there's a rsync option that would keep copies of conflicting edits, too.
[03:12] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, Users some times do not know this, not really something I have the time to tear apart, others may be able however.
[03:12] <quickputty> undecim: is it automatic or there are a flag for it? or you are not sure?
[03:12] <undecim> quickputty, there is a flag
[03:12] <quickputty> undecim: oh, let me verify sound interesting!
[03:13] <quickputty> undecim: big thanks
[03:13] <undecim> Is RAID not an option?
[03:13] <maestrojed> bubbasaures I get that you can't go in depth, but what do you think the issue is in general? I can research and I know linux fairly well (though not desktop)
[03:14] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, depth yes generally, patience no. ;)
[03:14] <bubbasaures> better not start for me
[03:14] <undecim> quickputty. Or another option that may work better: use a symlink/bind to put them both on 1 drive, and use the other as a backup. This way you don't have to worry about conflicting edits or other sync issues
[03:15] <undecim> quickputty, It would also reduce wear on the backup drive
[03:15] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, Nothing personal. ;)
[03:16] <strangle> quickputty: or use online folder
[03:17] <strangle> quickputty: their are some like dropbox for Linux
[03:18] <strangle> quickputty: dropbox will put virtual folder on machine
[03:18] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, I use a basic statistics scientific inquiry method, start from the easiest options, that would include a cause and effect, I missed you asked this.
[03:18] <strangle> /
[03:18] <strangle> bubbasaures: sure you can
[03:19] <bubbasaures> can what?
[03:19] <strangle> 肏/操 You bubbasaures
[03:20] <bubbasaures> I'm not going to bother more than with an ignore on this
[03:21] <maestrojed> bubbasaures ah huh... I don't take it personally. It seemed like you had an idea of what was wrong since you said to try a guest acct and that did indeed work. I am not looking for a walk through. Nor am I a n00b. So a general topic to look into would have been fine.
[03:21] <maestrojed> I guess you are saying you don't have a general idea but are confident you could figure it out if you set out to it
[03:21] <maestrojed> I am sure you could
[03:21] <bubbasaures> !ops | strangle translate please
[03:22] <strangle> bubbasaures: what's that mean
[03:24] <undecim> Lubuntu is running on 128MB /800MHz in VirtualBox... but it's painful
[03:24] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, There is no general book on this or info really, a partial upgrade you would just want to know what upgraded I would suppose to start with. I asked to check the guest so we knew if this was system wide.
[03:24] <genii> bubbasaures: Don't use !ops unless it's some emergency
[03:24] <undecim> I think performance would be worse on bare metal, since the disk won't be cached
[03:25] <bubbasaures> genii, I rarely use ops
[03:25] <maestrojed> bubbasaures gotcha.
[03:26] <maestrojed> This is 12.04, Think an upgrade to 14.04 would fix it? :)
[03:26] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, not with held packages at the least
[03:28] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, check /home/username/.bash_history  for your bash info
[03:29] <bubbasaures> might be a clue there
[03:30] <bubbasaures> genii, Someone swearing in another language to get by with it seemed more like an ops issue, not my argument on channel COC is all.
[03:31] <maestrojed> the last "more complex" thing I did was enable wake on lan. http://paste.ubuntu.com/9739965/
[03:31] <rww> i note that "emergency" and "ops issue" are not the same thing
[03:31] <maestrojed> other than that its a lot of just nothing for a long time
[03:32] <maestrojed> By nothing I mean just typical usage.
[03:32] <bubbasaures> rww, Cool will stop by ops next time
[03:32] <custom> hey
[03:32] <bubbasaures> that is a definition per ops anyway, some roll some don't
[03:32] <custom> how can i see x desktop instead color in greyscale?
[03:35] <bubbasaures> custom, You might make that a bit clearer and include the release and desktop, and some hardware info
[03:36] <Nathan2055> So the installation went fine, but the screen is a bit small: http://i.imgur.com/O894b0H.png
[03:36] <Nathan2055> I assume the Guest Additions will fix that?
[03:36] <undecim> Nathan2055, yup
[03:36] <Nathan2055> kk
[03:36] <undecim> Nathan2055, gives you shared folder access, too
[03:36] <Nathan2055> Nice.
[03:36] <undecim> you have to use the mount command manually, though
[03:37] <undecim> or maybe fstab works. Haven't tried it
[03:37] <undecim> mount -t vboxsf foldername mountpoint
[03:38] <Nathan2055> Doesn't VBox have auto-mount?
[03:38] <undecim> Nathan2055, yeah, but it's never worked for Linux guests for me.
[03:38] <Nathan2055> Hmm, all right.
[03:39] <undecim> But isn't a little bit of manual CLI work what us Linux users sign up for anyways?
[03:40] <Nathan2055> :D
[03:40] <Nathan2055> Anyway, should I run apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade before loading the Guest Additions?
[03:41] <undecim> Nathan2055, sure
[03:42] <Nathan2055> But which should I do? Or should I use the graphical updater that's been nagging me since I first booted up?
[03:42] <undecim> Nathan2055, if you're not sure, just use the GUI
[03:42] <Nathan2055> kk
[03:43] <kim__> getting start up errors for GParted in 14.10, is the warning about being unable to inform the kernel of changes normal?  =]
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> kim__: could you paste this error?
[03:45] <Anuttymous> Hey, I'm having trouble getting touchpad input on my laptop, i.e. there is no mouse on-screen. 14.04
[03:46] <bubbasaures> Anuttymous, From the start/install?
[03:46] <Anuttymous> I'm using "Try Ubuntu" from USB
[03:47] <kim__> Error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/sda2 -- Invalid argument.  This means Linux won't know about any changes you made to /dev/sda2 until you reboot -- so you shouldn't mount it or use it in any way before rebooting.
[03:47] <bubbasaures> Anuttymous, so with no changes, just a booted live you have this issue?
[03:47] <Anuttymous> yes
[03:48] <bubbasaures> Anuttymous, Great, thanks that is helpful for the channel to know, have you tried a mouse to confirm whether tap is working?
[03:48] <Anuttymous> I don't have a mouse I can test
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> kim__: how about fdisk -l can you see all partitions there?
[03:50] <bubbasaures> Anuttymous, two links that night help, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection
[03:50] <bubbasaures> might*
[03:51] <bubbasaures> Anuttymous, ctrl-alt-t will bring you up a terminal.
[03:52] <kim__> I can see my boot and backup but not my main?
[03:53] <kim__> then this -Partition(s) 2 on /dev/sda have been written, but we have been unable to inform the kernel of the change, probably because it/they are in use.  As a result, the old partition(s) will remain in use.  You should reboot now before making further changes.
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> kim__: something might be gone wrong with that partition
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> kim__: did you try a reboot?
[03:53] <kim__> yes, I rebooted before posting here =[
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> kim__: this partition contains ext4 ?
[03:54] <kim__> I haven't really poked around it too much I've just never seen this error before
[03:54] <kim__> and yes
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> kim__: wich ubuntu version?
[03:55] <kim__> 14.10
[03:55] <kim__> You think maybe rollback?
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> kim__: i would try a fresh reinstall of 14.04
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> kim__: backup your stuff first and reinstall freshly
[03:56] <kim__> I hate rolling back >.<  lol but yes maybe so
[03:56] <nobody1> undecim dam the upgrade broke the computer gotta re install ubuntu now :/
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | kim__ maybe this can also help
[03:57] <kim__> tyty
[04:01] <undecim> nobody1, That sucks
[04:01] <undecim> nobody1, Maybe try a fresh install of 14.10?
[04:01] <Anuttymous> So, xinput list provides no touchpad, mouse or anything, only XTEST pointer
[04:02] <OerHeks> Anuttymous, on what laptop exactly?
[04:02] <Anuttymous> It's a Medion Akoya
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> that explains it :p
[04:02] <nobody1> undecim na ima just set nomodeset and wait for a stable upgrade what was that line that i enter into grup to activate the backlight
[04:03] <OerHeks> Neer had issues with akoya .. did you check the FN key + mouse button ( F1-F12) for internal/external mouse?
[04:04] <Anuttymous> Fn key didn't seem to change anything
[04:05] <bubbasaures> my acer aspire one had fn-f6 for mouse control
[04:05] <maestrojed> I once compiled/installed Wine. I don't remember much it was a while ago. Now I am getting dependency errors cause it depends on a specific version of Ubuntu which I have upgraded past. I am fine with just removing Wine. Must I fix this dependency issues before I remove it? when I try to remove it, I get the same dependency error. I can provide more specifics if that will help
[04:05] <ion2> curl -o temporary.txt http://example.com/file.txt ; tar cJf output.tar.xz temporary.txt ; rm temporary.txt
[04:05] <bubbasaures> had to hit a couple of times usually
[04:05] <ion2> how to create output without creating temporary.txt before?
[04:06] <ion2> *output.tar.xz*
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> maestrojed: sure pasteubuntu us your errors on packages
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: you could try a real install instead of try live
[04:07] <Anuttymous> I'll try that, better dual boot, then
[04:08] <maestrojed> lotuspsychje http://paste.ubuntu.com/9740376/
[04:08] <yourbeau> who is using full disk encryption with Gnome here ?
[04:09] <maxwell> maestrojed,
[04:09] <maestrojed> sir
[04:09] <maxwell> remove wine-browser-installer first
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> yourbeau: ask your question mate
[04:10] <maestrojed> ok
[04:10] <bubbasaures> yourbeau, Better if you address your issue for help. ;)
[04:10] <maxwell> or better yet, remove both at once
[04:10] <yourbeau> lotuspsychje, bubbasaures ok I was just wondering if its popular or not
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> !encrypt | yourbeau
[04:11] <yourbeau> or if I am the only one who is extra paranoid
[04:11] <bubbasaures> yourbeau, Good way ti loose everything in my opinion.
[04:11] <yourbeau> is everyone using linux-libre with Ubuntu ?
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> yourbeau: security paranoia has many flavors...my vision is external storage hidden deep under the ground
[04:12] <OerHeks> yourbeau, depends, how sensitive is your data ? if you run into issues, full encryption can be a hard nut to resolve
[04:12] <yourbeau> are all the software in Ubuntu Main Repo Free/LIbre ?
[04:12] <bubbasaures> cave encrypt
[04:12] <yourbeau> OerHeks, nothing secure at all
[04:12] <maxwell> maestrojed, did it work?
[04:12] <yourbeau> OerHeks, I mean my data don't need any kinda encryption
[04:12] <yourbeau> its public data mostly
[04:13] <Magnus__> How do I make file extensions disappear on documents and images in Ubuntu?
[04:13] <OerHeks> yourbeau, then i would advise to encrypt your /home only.
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> if they find an encrypted disk, they will try harder to break the security
[04:13] <yourbeau> I have heard it from forks at various channel Ubuntu's Main Repo has non-free software in it and its cheating its users ?
[04:13] <yourbeau> Is that true, OerHeks ?
[04:13] <maestrojed> maxwell ok, II uninstall the installer as you suggest. Then I get 3 broken dependencies (netflx-desktop, wine-sliverlight, wine-compholio. Makes sense, all related. So I remove Netflix. Then silverlight, then compholio. But that wine-compholio dependency error persists
[04:13] <maestrojed> wanna see a pastebin of all that?
[04:13] <yourbeau> Other than Kernel's non-free part what do you have thats non-free in the Main repo ?
[04:14] <OerHeks> yourbeau, please, this channel is for support, not FUD
[04:14] <yourbeau> OerHeks, Ok I already have FDE
[04:14] <maxwell> maestrojed, remove the installer
[04:14] <yourbeau> OerHeks, no but I am asking you since you are using it since long
[04:14] <yourbeau> I just want to be sure
[04:14] <Magnus__> How do I make file extensions disappear on documents and images in Ubuntu?
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> Magnus__: whats your end goal with this?
[04:14] <Magnus__> Less clutter
[04:15] <maestrojed> maxwell http://paste.ubuntu.com/9740502/
[04:15] <OerHeks> yourbeau, there is no non-free software in main.
[04:15] <Magnus__> I like shorter names? Hate seeing the extensions such as .jpg and .docx, etc
[04:15] <maxwell> try interpreting the problem on your own. "The following packages have unmet dependencies:" is the line to look for. then you see <some package> : Depends: <package you are removing> etc
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> Magnus__: maybe somehwere deep in dconf-editor?
[04:16] <maxwell> this means you need to remove <some package
[04:16] <Magnus__> where can I find that?
[04:16] <ion2> hello where can I ask Linux command line?
[04:16] <maestrojed> maxwell yes sir, I do. that is what I tried to say. I continue to remove each of these.
[04:16] <maestrojed> I remove netflix and it disappears from the list
[04:16] <maxwell> try removing all at once
[04:16] <maestrojed> then sliverlight
[04:16] <maestrojed> ok
[04:16] <maxwell> in one command
[04:17] <maestrojed> ok, does order matter? I will give it a try
[04:17] <maxwell> it doesn't
[04:17] <maxwell> I would also recommend removing `wine*' just to make life easier
[04:18] <maxwell> that will remove every package that has "wine" in its name
[04:18] <maestrojed> maxwell I tried that, It said no package found. But removing all in one command certainly seems to be working
[04:18] <anishparanjpe> I am installing the latest kernel. I was wondering if 'make install' overwrite my previous kernels entry. Will I be able to boot into my previous kernel
[04:18] <maestrojed> maxwell oh
[04:18] <maxwell> ahh, coog
[04:18] <maestrojed> maxwell I see the wildcard now
[04:18] <maxwell> yes
[04:19] <maestrojed> gotcha, thanks
[04:19] <maxwell> wildcard is what I mean
[04:19] <maxwell> but!
[04:19] <maestrojed> !
[04:19] <maestrojed> :)
[04:19] <maxwell> look throught the list of whats to be removed
[04:19] <maestrojed> gotcha. Thanks for the help!
[04:19] <maxwell> you don't want to kill your system now do you?
[04:19] <maxwell> :D
[04:20] <maestrojed> If this doesn't fix some of my more general issues I might!! I am starting with obvious errors
[04:20] <maxwell> mhm
[04:20] <maxwell> I see
[04:20] <OerHeks> anishparanjpe, sure, hold shift @ boot and choose previous kernel, if you need it.
[04:21] <maxwell> operating systems do tend to get more buggy as time goes on
[04:21] <maxwell> ubuntu less than Windows of course, but still
[04:21] <anishparanjpe> Do i have to compile the proprietary drivers for the new kernel?
[04:22] <bubbasaures> anishparanjpe, You might name that "new kernel"
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> maestrojed: nothing better then a fresh installed ubuntu
[04:23] <OerHeks> anishparanjpe, if you build your kernel yourself, you might run into issues we cannot help you with.
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> !kernel | anishparanjpe
[04:23] <maestrojed> lotuspsychje maxwell  :) I hear you. I do need to move from 12 to 14
[04:23] <maxwell> that too
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> maestrojed: 14.04 with ease up your life for sure..
[04:24] <maestrojed> yeah, still having issues.
[04:24] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, Do you have a seperate home?
[04:24] <eko> opo ae kah
[04:24] <maestrojed> Seems user/profile specific
[04:25] <maestrojed> bubbasaures what do you mean?
[04:25] <Anuttymous> Ubuntu installed now, but still no mouse/pad cursor
[04:25] <maestrojed> it was bubbasaures  that earlier suggested I test the guest account which seems to work fine
[04:25] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, User at times have root / and a home partition so installs can pick that up/
[04:26] <maestrojed> I get a "System program problem detected" when I log in. Inputs act all wonky and programs have issues in general
[04:26] <maestrojed> bubbasaures yes, I have a  user with a home dir of /home/mallory
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> whats the trigger for indonesia?
[04:27] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, In it's own partition?
[04:27] <wizworks> anyone try installing ubuntu (CLI only) on banana pi?
[04:27] <maestrojed> bubbasaures no
[04:27] <bubbasaures> maestrojed, Ah, that was the key, you can move it to one their is a wiki, however lets see what the others think on this, if you want to.
[04:27] <bubbasaures> there*
[04:28] <Anuttymous> still no mouse/pad from xinput list
[04:29] <bubbasaures> wizworks, that unit will run ubuntu, text is the easy part, be more clear on this.
[04:31] <bubbasaures> wizworks, With a desktop you would have to check it's specs, it's gotta be really light on the hardware end.
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: did you doublecheck your bios for weird settings?
[04:32] <Anuttymous> What kind of weirdness should I be looking for?
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: anything related to mouse or touchpad
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: i recently formatted a medion akoya with ubuntu, had to disable fastboot and secureboot deep in bios options
[04:33] <Anuttymous> already disabled
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: try F1 at your usb ubuntu boot, to get more options
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: maybe a no_acpi or nomodeset can fix?
[04:34] <Anuttymous> secureboot wasn't. trying again
[04:34] <anishparanjpe> OerHeks: agreed, but I can still revert to my previous version anytime
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> anishparanjpe: what are you trying to get working exactly?
[04:35] <anishparanjpe> I am trying to keep my kernel insync with the actual source
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> anishparanjpe: you said something about a driver?
[04:36] <Anuttymous> no luck. How do I go about no_acpi or nomodeset?
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | Anuttymous
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: try to hit F1 at ubuntu usb boot
[04:37] <anishparanjpe> Yes, My wifi driver is propretiery. It won't be built from the kernel source. So, how can I tell my new kernel to load that driver at bootup
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> anishparanjpe: ubuntu version and wifi chipset + driver?
[04:38] <anishparanjpe> 14.04 broadcom-4312 wl
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> !b43 | anishparanjpe
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> anishparanjpe: maybe broadcoms need fixing
[04:38] <Anuttymous> F1 didn't seem to do anything
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: this si the screen you need to get: http://i.stack.imgur.com/O2m9a.png
[04:41] <anishparanjpe> ubottu: The website mentions opensource drivers. Should I go with them, or the ones on broadcoms website
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> anishparanjpe: the ones working best, you need to try them out
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> anishparanjpe: your additional drivers section doesnt show STA broadcom?
[04:42] <anishparanjpe> Yes it does.
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> anishparanjpe: did you try a switch from there?
[04:42] <Anuttymous> I can't seem to get to that screen
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: hmmm, f1 or F6
[04:43] <Anuttymous> nope
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: normally F1 at purple ubuntu boot, should work
[04:44] <anishparanjpe> It doesn't mention anything about free drivers. Either use the proprietory or none
[04:44] <Anuttymous> I am doing that. before it pulls up the load bar, whilst screen edge is purple
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> anishparanjpe: ok, well check that b43 website, might solve
[04:46] <GuyOn1G> Hi
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: not sure mate, doublecheck bios for keys enabled or something?
[04:47] <GuyOn1G> What?
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: this should work normally
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: maybe put bios to defaults, might solve stuff?
[04:53] <Anuttymous> doesn't seem to be getting anywhere
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: and your mouse/touch works in win?
[04:54] <Anuttymous> Yeah, just fine
[04:54] <Nathan2055> What is the name of the VBox Guest Additions package in the Ubuntu repo?
[04:55] <undecim> nobody1, The backlight was fixed by adding some lines to Xorg.conf
[04:55] <undecim> nobody1, First answer here has the lines: http://askubuntu.com/questions/476664/cannot-change-backlight-brightness-ubuntu-14-04 but I would put them in Xorg.conf, rather than a file in /usr/
[04:56] <nobody1> undecim thank you
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: maybe its a kernel thing, you could try 14.10 maybe
[04:57] <anishparanjpe> I want to find all the modules that ubuntu installed apart from those in the kernel source. Is there a list of those modules?
[04:59] <Anuttymous> what's the fastest way to get 14.10?
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: download it from ubuntu?
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: and make a stick
[04:59] <Anuttymous> I'll give it a try then
[05:00] <Anuttymous> thanks for the help
[05:00] <Nathan2055> Never mind, I found it: virtualbox-guest-x11
[05:00] <nobody1> undecim do you know how to fix the button not working for the brightness?
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> Anuttymous: found a bug on it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2233632&page=2
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> anishparanjpe: this can help you mate? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Loadable_Modules
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> anishparanjpe: man lsmod
[05:07] <anishparanjpe> modules.order does not contain proprietary drivers
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> anishparanjpe: maybe the #ubuntu-devel guys might know more about it?
[05:09] <FlumeRouge> I am trying to search online about something for which I do not know the name: the search functionality (I'm running 14.04) which allows you to find apps/files/etc. on your system; I can launch it by pressing the system key (whatever that thing is between the Ctrl and Alt on my PC keyboard)?
[05:11] <bubbasaures> FlumeRouge, the dash in unity
[05:11] <FlumeRouge> @bubba: So, "Unity dash" ?
[05:12] <bubbasaures> FlumeRouge, Probably a good search use dash alone could show anything.
[05:13] <undecim> nobody1, There is a command for changing the brightness that can be mapped to the button
[05:14] <nobody1> undecim my fn+f4 and fn+f5 keys control the brightness but when i press it, nothing happens
[05:15] <undecim> nobody1, I think you will have to install xbacklight
[05:16] <undecim> nobody1, then, go to your Keyboard settings
[05:17] <undecim> nobody1, add a custom shortcut (the "+" below the list), use your brightness up key and map it to the command "xbacklight -inc 10" and map the brightness down key to "xbacklight -dec 10"
[05:17] <undecim> nobody1, You can change the "10" in the commands to whatever increment you prefer
[05:17] <undecim> Make sure you can change the brightness without the keys though
[05:17] <undecim> Through the GUI
[05:18] <nobody1> undecim ok
[05:21] <Magnus__> I type cd / and I get the response rbash: cd: restricted. How do I fix?
[05:22] <FlumeRouge> bubbasaures: danke
[05:23] <bubbasaures> FlumeRouge, no prob, enjoy.
[05:28] <hu> hello
[05:29] <hu> i donnot know hopw to do this
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> !ask | hu
[05:30] <hu> i get it
[05:34] <myl3la> I love ubuntu ;)
[05:35] <undecim> myl3la, You're in the right place then
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> !yay | myl3la
[05:35] <bubbasaures> myl3la, You have a habit of this, can we stick with support there is a off topic channel. ;)
[05:41] <root________> Help, I'm fixing someone's ubuntu 14.04, and in attempting to set a custom MAC address for a wired NIC, somehow network manager GUI has been nerfed so that it won't even attempt to start the NIC.  How can I reset it?  I can't access anything meaningful via GUI, so it has to be CLI
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> !info macchanger | root________
[05:43] <root________> lotuspsychje, thanks, lotuspsychje.  But the mac change is no longer needed.  Just need to purge the network manager configuration...
[05:43] <root________> want to reset network-manager to a pristine state.
[05:43] <myl3la> bubbasaures, of course ;)
[05:52] <root________> so the CORRECT answer was to manually remove the MAC addresses from the profiles in  /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections .
[05:52] <root________> locate -i networkmanager was enough to find those files and fix it.
[05:54] <electricfred> Hi all. So new install of Ubuntu server from liveusb.  Blank screen on boot and suspect it's the gxf mode in grub.  How do I switch to text mode in the grub editor to try?
[05:54] <undecim> electricfred, hold left shift on boot
[06:01] <electricfred> undecim,  nope.... screen still goes off.  I believe it machine is still running (Cl+alt+del still reboots the machine).  Same result in recovery mode from GRUB
[06:01] <undecim> electricfred, Are you able to get the grub menu at all?
[06:03] <electricfred> yes.... f8 gets me to it, and I can get in to edit.  Just unsure the line structure to change, and how to make it stick for a boot to try.  I tried deleting the whole line, but no avail
[06:04] <javnut> I've got a usb mic, and pulse-audio picks it up (I see the measure moving when I speak) but audacity+recorder don't pick up the mic
[06:05] <undecim> javnut, Checked the audacity prefs?
[06:06] <undecim> electricfred, there should be a line about gfx. Let me pull up my grub.cfg
[06:06] <javnut> undecim: I'm on there now, it lets me chose the recording device but there's like 20, and the labels don't help
[06:07] <javnut> hmmm. guess I got lucky
[06:08] <undecim> electricfred, try adding "gfxpayload=text" at the end of the linux line.
[06:08] <undecim> electricfred, when you find a successful boot config, we can make it permanent from the OS
[06:10] <rimdeker> Hey guys, I just installed Ubuntu and my graphics card keeps running its fan on full speed using the AMD open source drivers. The quality of graphics are all dandy but I would kind of like to turn down the fan speed, manually if necessary. Is that possible?
[06:10] <rimdeker> My graphics card is an AMD Radean HD 7770 and dmesg is following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9741750/
[06:12] <electricfred> undecim..... nada on that one either... I presume after adding the line, just the cntl-X will boot with the changes.
[06:13] <undecim> electricfred, yes
[06:13] <undecim> electricfred, you added a line?
[06:14] <electricfred> yes I did..... same result.  but let me try again
[06:14] <undecim> what line did you add?
[06:14] <undecim> the gfxpayload=text should have gone on the same line as linux
[06:16] <electricfred> undecim, on the linux /boot line, yes that's where I put it.
[06:17] <undecim> electricfred, you should get a live CD and make sure the logs indicate a successful boot
[06:20] <electricfred> undecim,  would be nice... but the asus eeebox doesn't have a drive. usb only.  Used startdisk creator to make the bootable usb from duplicate machine w/ubuntu desktop.  What would I be looking for in the logs of the usb?
[06:21] <undecim> electricfred, on the PC, you would look at /var/log/kern.log, and see if it has a successful boot
[06:22] <undecim> electricfred, the existence of the file (if its not empty?) would indicate that the drive was mounted in read-write mode
[06:22] <undecim> electricfred, which would indicate that the system is at getting paste the "most difficult" part of the boot process
[06:23] <electricfred> undecim,  hehe.... if I had a screen to see...
[06:23] <undecim> electricfred, why can't you just use the same USB?
[06:25] <ironfoot495> Hello I really need help getting blue tooth to work for my wireless printer and other operations.
[06:25] <cfhowlett> !bluetooth | ironfoot495
[06:26] <LordFoobar_> hi, I want to start flashplayer (standalone) to run a SWF file, and I managed to install all dependencies, but now it fails with "Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"". I'm running Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 LTE 64-bit, and Adobe's lousy player is 32-bit. I installed gtk2-engines:i386, but it does not fix the problem. Any help appreciated.
[06:26] <ironfoot495> thanks really aprecfate it.
[06:26] <cfhowlett> ironfoot495, happy2help!
[06:27] <boodllebat> is GSOC contributuion > github contribution ?
[06:28] <LordFoobar_> right, found *that* solution here : https://ubuntutechnical.wordpress.com/2011/11/07/gtk-warning-unable-to-locate-theme-engine-in-module_path-pixmap/
[06:28] <cfhowlett> boodllebat, you'd have to ask google, but I suspect that gsoc stuff goes to a git
[06:28] <LordFoobar_> actually, I still have that error : "Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"" :/
[06:28] <electricfred> undecim,  let me guess (i'm an idiot)... boot from the "rescue mode" of the install????
[06:29] <boodllebat> cfhowlett: so working on github repo is same as working on GSOC ?
[06:30] <undecim> electricfred, no, just boot it like normal
[06:30] <undecim> electricfred, Wait, this is a server USB installer?
[06:30] <cfhowlett> boodllebat, absolutely not.  git is a storage medium used by MANY developers/teams
[06:30] <LordFoobar_> stupid Adobe
[06:30] <ironfoot495> cfhowlett: I have another severe problem I can't get the cmd line to stick to the top display  do you know what I mean?
[06:30] <electricfred> undecim, yes it is....
[06:31] <undecim> electricfred, use unetbootin and make one for the desktop version
[06:31] <cfhowlett> ironfoot495, nope.  picture time
[06:31] <cfhowlett> ironfoot495, i.e. send a screenshot
[06:31] <undecim> electricfred, use that one as a liveUSB and check the logs
[06:31] <boodllebat> cfhowlett: for example contributing to mozzilla repo on GSOC is greater than contibuting on mozzilla repo on github ?
[06:31] <LordFoobar_> can't even make something that works
[06:32] <cfhowlett> boodllebat, suggest you ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:32] <ironfoot495> no matter  what I do  the command line is soppose to be seen at the top but it does not????
[06:32] <boodllebat> cfhowlett: can i talk to you in privte ?
[06:32] <undecim> LordFoobar_, as an easy fix, try installing 32-bit version in VirtualBox
[06:32] <undecim> LordFoobar_, Performance might suck, though.
[06:33] <cfhowlett> ironfoot495, no.  each command and feedback goes UNDER the previous one ... terminal standard behavior
[06:33] <LordFoobar_> undecim, yeah, performance is critical here
[06:33] <cfhowlett> boodllebat, nothing more I can add to your discussion.  sorry.  #ubuntu-offtopic or ##linux would know more
[06:33] <undecim> LordFoobar_, Or, make a basic web page that just loads the swf
[06:33] <ironfoot495> wait one
[06:34] <undecim> LordFoobar_, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/137326/how-to-embed-a-swf-file-in-a-html-page
[06:34] <LordFoobar_> undecim, haha thanks. I know how to load a swf in a web page, unfortunately, this one does not load in a browser
[06:34] <boodllebat> cfhowlett: oh Thank You for your time
[06:35] <electricfred> undecim, ah... think I gotcha...  yes, have a 2nd identical machine with the desktop installed (took me a while on that install as well b4 it worked, but same solution didn't apply to server)
[06:35] <cfhowlett> boodllebat, happy2help!
[06:35] <undecim> what was the fix for desktop?
[06:35] <sherlock_regus> i accidentally dd my hard disk
[06:35] <undecim> electricfred,  what was the fix for desktop?
[06:35] <sherlock_regus> i had win 8 and ubntu
[06:35] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: how long did it run>
[06:36] <ironfoot495> cfhowlett:
[06:36] <cfhowlett> ironfoot495, eth?
[06:36] <sherlock_regus> not much
[06:36] <sherlock_regus> withina  sec
[06:36] <sherlock_regus> but now i installed ubuntu in it
[06:37] <sherlock_regus> but my win 8 in ssd is not accessable
[06:37] <sherlock_regus> the win boot file was in the hard disk
[06:37] <undecim> LordFoobar_, You probably need a libcanberra package
[06:37] <sherlock_regus> after it was dd i couldnt install any win version on it
[06:37] <cfhowlett> sherlock_regus, ask ##windows
[06:38] <electricfred> undecim,  was put on to the  acpi=off and nomodeset options... while individually they didn't work, I check'd all the options and that gave me a working boot on the vga.  just had to let the first boot churn for 4 minutes before the screen came back
[06:38] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: you mean win is on another hd?
[06:38] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: do you mean that grub doesn't find windows?
[06:38] <undecim> electricfred, shouldn't be any different for the server edition
[06:39] <sherlock_regus> yup
[06:39] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: ok, are you in ubuntu right now?
[06:40] <sherlock_regus> yup
[06:40] <sherlock_regus> i cant boot to win
[06:40] <rimdeker> Hey guys, I just installed Ubuntu and my graphics card keeps running its fan on full speed using the AMD open source drivers. The quality of graphics are all dandy but I would kind of like to turn down the fan speed, manually if necessary. Is that possible?
[06:40] <rimdeker> My graphics card is an AMD Radean HD 7770 and dmesg is following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9741750/
[06:40] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo parted -l and paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[06:40] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: ^
[06:41] <LordFoobar_> undecim, I think I fixed that as I don't get the GTK error anymore. But I get this one : "(flashplayer:742): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: instance with invalid (NULL) class pointer", then "(flashplayer:742): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_signal_handlers_disconnect_matched: assertion 'G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed"
[06:42] <undecim> LordFoobar_, Why wont it run in the browser?
[06:44] <sherlock_regus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9742101/
[06:44] <sherlock_regus> EriC^^,
[06:45] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: this is really odd
[06:45] <sherlock_regus> is there no way out
[06:46] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: you have gpt and an efi partition, and on the other disk it's msdos ( the one with ubuntu )
[06:46] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, 315mb "basic data" ??? I thought windows restore partition, but that should some GB not 315 mb
[06:46] <LordFoobar_> undecim, don't know :) I didn't code it. And so far, it should run in a projector. I managed to run a Windows Flash projector with Wine. The SWF loads. heh
[06:47] <sherlock_regus> i have made a ntfs partition
[06:47] <sherlock_regus> i gave ubuntu 120 gb
[06:48] <electricfred> undecim, you would think it wouldn't be different.  looking at the USB and can't see any logs.  Where would they be?
[06:48] <undecim> electricfred, They will be in /var/log on the hard drive of the PC
[06:48] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: yeah
[06:48] <undecim> sherlock_regus, if you do "sudo update-grub", does it mention Windows?
[06:49] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, then again: gtp, ssd + hdd combo ... I'm not familiar with the newer install options.  just looks odd to me
[06:49] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: what you can do is set uefi enabled in the bios
[06:49] <Novice201y> Hi. How can I choose which ciphers I want to be used for specific SSH connection?
[06:50] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: yeah definitely something is odd
[06:50] <sherlock_regus> undecim, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9742190/
[06:50] <sherlock_regus> EriC^^, uefi is already set to enable
[06:50] <undecim> Novice201y, the "Cipher" directive in your ssh config?
[06:50] <sherlock_regus> otherwise i cant boot into ubuntu
[06:51] <undecim> sherlock_regus, you should be able to boot Windows just fine.
[06:51] <undecim> sherlock_regus, If it wasn't showing up in the boot list before, that update command just added it
[06:51] <maxton93> hi all
[06:51] <sherlock_regus> i had this prob b4
[06:52] <sherlock_regus> kk i'll be back
[06:52] <sherlock_regus> pls wait
[06:52] <Novice201y> undecim: Thanks.
[06:52] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: hold on
[06:52] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: ok
[06:52] <sherlock_regus> what happened EriC^^
[06:53] <sherlock_regus> i want to check whether the grub is updated
[06:53] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: type sudo efibootmgr -v
[06:53] <maxton93> There's a way to print a web page in landascape mode pdf with Ubuntu? (AKA, there's an alternative to option-less CUP-PDF ?)
[06:54] <undecim> maxton93, In Firefox, I have a "Print to File" option
[06:54] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: are you booting the disk that has windows or the second one?
[06:54] <sherlock_regus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9742221/
[06:54] <sherlock_regus> i am booting the second disk
[06:54] <maxton93> undecim that option doesn't call CUPS-PDF?
[06:55] <undecim> maxton93, I have no idea... what does it matter?
[06:55] <sherlock_regus> EriC^^, actually i had this prob b4
[06:55] <cfhowlett> maxton93, of course.  from ff, print > Page setup > Paper > orientation > landscape
[06:55] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: ok, restart looks like it might work
[06:55] <undecim> maxton93, I think it's a firefox thing
[06:55] <cfhowlett> maxton93, Print to File
[06:56] <electricfred> undecim, well hittin midnight, thnx for the help.  4 days at this & txt gettin blurry...LOL.  may pick this up 2morrow.  Cheers
[06:56] <sherlock_regus> when i installed ubutnu
[06:57] <maxton93> cfholett I don't have "print to file" in my printers page...
[06:57] <sherlock_regus> so i did a boot repair at that time
[06:57] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: did it work?
[06:57] <cfhowlett> maxton93, FIREFOX > file > print ...
[06:57] <sherlock_regus> i have not done it yet
[06:57] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: i think your good, but your setup is one of the oddest i've seen here
[06:57] <sherlock_regus> actaully i'm downloading  something so its gonna fifnish soon
[06:58] <sherlock_regus> so i was waiting for it to finish
[06:58] <sherlock_regus> i know
[06:58] <sherlock_regus> i think its with the ultrabook series
[06:58] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: you're using the efi partition on disk 1 to boot ubuntu which is on a msdos disk
[06:59] <EriC^^> pretty cool that it works though
[06:59] <sherlock_regus> so when i reboot should i disable the uefi
[06:59] <EriC^^> no you need that
[06:59] <sherlock_regus> kk
[07:02] <maxton93> cfhowlett the page in question is a flash brochure that call the minified version of system printers ("print to file" it's nont available in that window, only phisical printer and cups...)
[07:02] <cfhowlett> maxton93, sorry, can't help then.
[07:04] <maxton93> cfhowlett There's an alterative-to-cups virtual printer package in ubuntu/debian repo?
[07:05] <cfhowlett> maxton93, never used anything like that.  I print pdf's from the browswer all the time with just FFox and ubuntu.
[07:05] <maxton93> cfhowlett so do I
[07:05] <maxton93> cfhowlett Till now that I nedd a landscape pdf print....
[07:06] <maxton93> cfhowlett *need
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> maxton93: there are many online pdf editors
[07:13] <maxton93> lotuspsychje would you manually rotate 100 pdf pages, instead of printing landscape mode in the first place?
[07:15] <sherlock_regus> EriC^^, didnt work
[07:15] <sherlock_regus> its till the same
[07:15] <sherlock_regus> it showed no such device found
[07:15] <sherlock_regus> and a serial id
[07:15] <sherlock_regus> and grub rescue
[07:16] <cfhowlett> maxton93, wait, that's the issue?  print those puppies and then use ghostscript to rotate.  EZ
[07:21] <maxton93> cfhowlett I think loose half of the resolution....
[07:21] <cfhowlett> maxton93, suggest you test: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3089773/how-to-change-page-orientation-of-pdf-ghostscript-or-postsscript-solution-need
[07:22] <maxton93> cfhowlett thanks, I'll take a look
[07:22] <cfhowlett> maxton93, this line:  gs -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile="page2rot.pdf" -dNOPAUSE -dEPSCrop -c "<</Orientation 0>> setpagedevice" -f "page2.pdf" -c quit can you see an issue with this? –  Pureferret Apr 19 '12 at 13:38
[07:23] <sherlock_regus> EriC^^,
[07:23] <maxton93> cfhowlett It's a known bug, CUP-PDF doesn't use gs for rendering.....
[07:24] <cfhowlett> maxton93, OK, but once you HAVE the pdf, you can manipulate with GS ... right?
[07:24] <cfhowlett> maxton93, and to GS a collection of 100, should be pretty simple
[07:25] <maxton93> cfhowlett yep, but once print in pdf, the image it's half of the original resolution....
[07:25] <cfhowlett> maxton93, ah.  didn't not know that.
[07:26] <skweek> how do I get a device to load a certian driver?
[07:26] <maxton93> cfhowlett landscape page printed in portrait pdf end with half resolution, no matter what gs do after print...
[07:27] <cfhowlett> maxton93, ow.  so ... convert to image, rotate, convert back to pdf?  wonky, I know but ...
[07:28] <maxton93> <cfhowlett image is still of the same resolution of the half-pdf...
[07:28] <cfhowlett> maxton93, outside my area of "expertise" then - sorry
[07:29] <skweek> does anyone know how to get a device to load a certian driver?
[07:30] <bubbasaures> skweek, rather open ended, can you be specific?
[07:31] <maxton93> cfhowlett anyway, if there's really no virtual printer alternatives to CUPS-PDF , I'll go with the windows-adobe way....
[07:31] <skweek> a usb device to load a dm9601.ko ?
[07:32] <bubbasaures> skweek, This a usb wifi and have you been here before on this?
[07:33] <skweek> i've been working on this for a week
[07:33] <skweek> made some progress but still can't figure out some steps
[07:33] <bubbasaures> skweek, I believe everyone tried to help, and asked it not be addressed again, is this correct?
[07:33] <skweek> yes and no
[07:34] <bubbasaures> skweek, Please respect the channel for this, we do not do miracles. ;)
[07:34] <skweek> do you know how to load a device with a driver?
[07:34] <skweek> right
[07:34] <skweek> ?
[07:35] <skweek> do you know how to get a device to pick up a driver?
[07:35] <bubbasaures> skweek, I have no idea, I saw others with all the skills needed not fix it, nothing I could do.
[07:35] <skweek> a few days ago I was looking at binding the device to load a driver but hadn't figured out how to do that
[07:36] <skweek> okies
[07:36] <maxton93> cfhowlett thanks for help (to all) ...bye
[07:37] <bubbasaures> skweek, Plenty of cheap usb ubuntu plug and play, you can take the radio shack loss in linux get one that works.
[07:37] <skweek> i'm sorry bubbasaures, that isn't an option
[07:37] <sacarlson> skweek: I was able to get a usb device called nocturn to work with a custom driver using some tools in python
[07:38] <sacarlson> skweek: it at least teaches you the methods and what is needed to get a driver to work
[07:38] <bubbasaures> skweek, Bummer, I do wish you the best of luck.
[07:40] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: you there
[07:41] <sherlock_regus> ya
[07:41] <EriC^^> ok type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[07:41] <EriC^^> then type sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[07:42] <sherlock_regus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9742749/
[07:42] <skweek> sacarlson, that's interesting
[07:43] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[07:44] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: wait, try to select the first disk in the bios
[07:44] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: if you press esc or something, you shoud get a boot options menu that says ubuntu and maybe os manager
[07:45] <sherlock_regus> EriC^^,
[07:45] <sacarlson> skweek: I'm not sure what you tried already but it looks like it's already been done http://askubuntu.com/questions/116615/davicom-dm9601-usb-lan-nic-ubuntu-11-10-issue
[07:45] <sherlock_regus> when had this prob the first time i did a startup repair using win 7 live cd
[07:45] <omkar30> hello
[07:45] <sherlock_regus> so i should get into multiboot options
[07:46] <sherlock_regus> ??
[07:46] <omkar30> Is it possible to upgrade ubuntu 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS using pendrive... as in apt could detect pendrive as an medium and use its packages to update the machine
[07:46] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: you're sure you're booting in uefi mode?
[07:46] <sherlock_regus> ya
[07:46] <sherlock_regus> of course
[07:47] <EriC^^> ok, and you get grub
[07:47] <EriC^^> ?
[07:47] <sherlock_regus> ya
[07:47] <EriC^^> is there a windows entry
[07:47] <sherlock_regus> ya sda2
[07:47] <EriC^^> ok, when you press that what happens
[07:48] <sherlock_regus> it shows no such device found and a long serial key type code
[07:48] <EriC^^> ok, i think you need to repair it using a win cd
[07:48] <sherlock_regus> kk
[07:48] <sherlock_regus> win 7 or 8
[07:49] <Stephen_Reeves> I'm having a problem with my swap file http://paste.ubuntu.com/9742821/
[07:49] <EriC^^> if you're running win8, win8 cd i guess
[07:49] <sherlock_regus> but last time i used win 7
[07:49] <sherlock_regus> to repair
[07:50] <sherlock_regus> kk first i'll try with win8
[07:50] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: ok, i've no idea about that
[07:50] <bubbasaures> sherlock_regus, Kinda a funky setup sda gpt, sdb msdos
[07:50] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: yeah, probably best to use win8
[07:50] <sherlock_regus> will that repair affect my  ubuntu
[07:51] <bubbasaures> gpt table antway
[07:51] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: no, it shouldn't
[07:51] <sherlock_regus> kk
[07:51] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: if it does, it's not a big deal
[07:51] <EriC^^> you'll reinstall grub-efi
[07:51] <sherlock_regus> how??
[07:52] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: boot a live usb, chroot and reinstall
[07:52] <sherlock_regus> reinstall the whole ubuntu
[07:52] <EriC^^> no, just grub
[07:52] <sherlock_regus> can u give me the commands
[07:53] <sherlock_regus> actually i'm not familiar with it
[07:53] <EriC^^> do you have a live usb ready?
[07:53] <sherlock_regus> not now
[07:53] <sacarlson> Stephen_Reeves: did you read this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/544054/ubuntu-14-04-wont-turn-swap-on-at-boot
[07:53] <EriC^^> make one, and fix windows
[07:53] <sherlock_regus> kk
[07:53] <EriC^^> if it doesn't work boot the live usb and come back here
[07:53] <sherlock_regus> u'll be here??
[07:54] <sherlock_regus> kk
[07:54] <EriC^^> yes and if im not many can help you with it
[07:54] <EriC^^> dont worry
[07:54] <sherlock_regus> no the prob is i 'll have to expalin the whole thing again
[07:54] <sherlock_regus> and u know abt this very well by now
[07:55] <Stephen_Reeves> sacarlson, what's the command to see all of your partitions?
[07:56] <sacarlson> Stephen_Reeves: there are several methods one being the old way I think is sudo fdisk -l
[08:00] <gully-foyle> hey guys, newbie here. how do I encrypt select folders in a external hard drive in ubuntu 14.10?
[08:01] <EriC^^> sherlock_regus: no big deal, explain the situation briefly and you should be good
[08:01] <EriC^^> gully-foyle: you can use encfs
[08:02] <gully-foyle> do I have to install it?
[08:02] <gully-foyle> I can't find it
[08:09] <bubbasaures> gully-foyle, encryption id fine if needed, however if you have issues you are most likely not going to retrieve.
[08:09] <bubbasaures> is*
[08:11] <bubbasaures> !bootinfo | sherlock_regus I would run this and have the scripts output available.
[08:13] <eth0> yop
[08:13] <Stephen_Reeves> who was just helping me?
[08:13] <Stephen_Reeves> whoever it was, I appreciate it. That fixed the problem
[08:19] <sherlock_regus> bubbasaures, ubottu http://paste.ubuntu.com/9743131/
[08:20] <EriC^^> gully-foyle: yeah you need to install it
[08:21] <EriC^^> gully-foyle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FolderEncryption
[08:21] <bubbasaures> sherlock_regus, have you tried having sdb first read in the bios? Not sure if possible in   uefi bios
[08:21] <bubbasaures> would assume so
[08:22] <sherlock_regus> yup
[08:22] <bubbasaures> sherlock_regus, Ubuntu at this point is not booting right? I am aware of your loss of W8.
[08:23] <sherlock_regus> ubuntu is booting
[08:23] <sherlock_regus> right now i'm in it
[08:23] <bubbasaures> sherlock_regus, THe install?
[08:23] <sherlock_regus> pardon
[08:24] <sherlock_regus> i didnt get u
[08:24] <bubbasaures> sherlock_regus, Is the ubuntu install on sdb booting?
[08:24] <sherlock_regus> ya
[08:25] <bubbasaures> sherlock_regus, Honestly that is a setup that is much harder than it needs to be, what is the end goal the windows reinstall?
[08:27] <bubbasaures> sherlock_regus, Yo\u have a msdos ubuntu and a ubuntu efi in sda
[08:28] <francesco_> hi
[08:28] <francesco_> list
[08:28] <bubbasaures> francesco_, no ware here
[08:28] <francesco_> ok
[08:29] <francesco_> come entro grazie
[08:32] <bubbasaures> sherlock_regus,Honestly if it were me I would wipe everything and set up both HD's as gpt or msdos and get set up correct, just enough varibles there to put you in a situation like this, windows my still be there I see missing bcd boot stuff as well.
[08:32] <bubbasaures> may*
[08:33] <bubbasaures> sda4 looks to be where it was
[08:33] <bubbasaures> or still is
[08:34] <francesco_> !list
[08:34] <bubbasaures> told you
[08:39] <parmendra> h
[08:42] <francesco_> !list
[08:43] <somsip> francesco_: it's not changed in the last 5 minutes...
[08:43] <francesco_> sn nuovo stavo capendo come funzione scusate
[08:44] <somsip> francesco_: well, there's no warez here so use !brain if you want to know how the bot works
[08:45] <OerHeks> francesco_, all torrents are here http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[08:45] <OerHeks> :-D
[08:46] <red_> quindi?
[08:46] <OerHeks> !it | red_
[08:47] <red_> Qui tutti che vanno e vengono...
[08:48] <francesco_> xdccc send #15
[08:48] <red_> che cazzo
[08:48] <red_> fuck
[08:49] <red_> esattamente di che si parla in questa room??
[08:49] <red_> di silent hill 4?
[08:49] <red_> ahahahhh :)
[08:49] <red_> dai no sul serio...
[08:49] <red_> che si fa?
[08:49] <somsip> red_: english only please, or leave
[08:49] <red_> glad to know
[08:50] <red_> so what we do here?
[08:50] <skeithc> Talk to Chat AIs?
[08:50] <OerHeks> red_, did you read the topic?
[08:50] <skeithc> Oh wait. wrong channel. Sorry. D:
[08:50] <somsip> red_: ask for and provide support on ubuntu
[08:50] <somsip> !topic | red_
[08:51] <quackgyver> Man, every single time I decide to give Ubuntu another chance, it somehow manages to break during some vital initial step despite my following the instructions to exact detail.
[08:51] <quackgyver> I just installed the latest LTS ver, updated, rebooted then started following the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:52] <quackgyver> but upon running "apache2" I get
[08:52] <quackgyver> AH00526: Syntax error on line 74 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf:
[08:52] <quackgyver> Invalid Mutex directory in argument file:${APACHE_LOCK_DIR}
[08:52] <quackgyver> I've googled it but still can't get it to work.
[08:52] <nusr> i think my libreoffice is corrupted. i can open csv in python and r but i can't open it manually to inspect. the data formatting has chinese characters
[08:54] <somsip> quackgyver: http://askubuntu.com/questions/452042/why-is-my-apache-not-working-after-upgrading-to-ubuntu-14-04
[08:55] <OerHeks> nusr, it is an openoffice/libroffice calc file, do there are controlcharacters in it.
[08:55] <nusr> i tried uninstalling and reinstalling but i'm still getting chinese character of the data all in one line
[08:56] <nusr> 0erHeks: where can i find it? i did whereis LibreCalc and just got LibreCalc back
[08:56] <ayushgp> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:56] <ayushgp> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:56] <ayushgp> I'm getting this error while using sudo apt-get install. How do I fix it?
[08:56] <lukblack> !list
[08:56] <somsip> ayushgp: close any other program that's also using apt-get or software centre
[08:56] <onla> im trying to run this one script on startup but it is not getting run when I put it in /etc/init.d/ and changed it to +x. The script has lines #! /bin/sh and xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
[08:57] <nusr> 0erHeks: ok i figured it out..somehow it got switched to unicode
[08:57] <bubbasaures> ayushgp, software or synaptic open, or did you stop any install while running?
[08:57] <OerHeks> nusr, ah nice
[08:57] <ayushgp> many thanks somsip! It worked!
[08:57] <somsip> onla: should be in rc.local possibly?
[08:57] <nusr> OerHeks: thanks
[08:57] <bubbasaures> ayushgp, Ubuntu software center
[08:58] <ablest1980> hi
[08:58] <ablest1980> i have a question
[08:58] <quackgyver> somsip: Wow, I can't believe I didn't find that page when I spent all of yesterday troubleshooting
[08:58] <ablest1980> whats best ebook reader for ubuntu?
[08:58] <quackgyver> One question though
[08:58] <ablest1980> the adobe reader of ubuntu
[08:58] <quackgyver> it says to edit that page
[08:58] <quackgyver> does it mean that you should edit the /var/www/html string?
[08:58] <bubbasaures> ablest1980, best is an opinion
[08:58] <quackgyver> or just open and close it
[08:58] <somsip> quackgyver: edit it
[08:58] <ablest1980> most popular then
[08:59] <somsip> !best | ablest1980
[08:59] <ablest1980> !best
[08:59] <nusr> anyone know when ubuntu phone is coming out?
[08:59] <cfhowlett> somsip, sadly, that factoid is no more
[08:59] <cfhowlett> nusr, "when it's done"
[08:59] <ablest1980> ubuntu phone coming?
[08:59] <somsip> !touch | nusr (try OMG Ububuntu site for news)
[08:59] <bubbasaures> !touch | nusr
[08:59] <quackgyver> somsip: The file or the string? :p
[08:59] <somsip> cfhowlett: ubottu tells me this...oh well, thanks
[08:59] <quackgyver> I mean, should I just open and save it
[08:59] <quackgyver> or change the string
[09:00] <ablest1980> !best | ablest1980
[09:00] <somsip> quackgyver: edit the file and change what it says on that page
[09:00] <bubbasaures> ablest1980, we don't do best here, however you can address a reader.
[09:00] <ablest1980> np ty
[09:00] <quackgyver> somsip: It just says "So edit to modify this file" and then to restart Apache, but it doesn't actually state whether I should edit anything within the file or to just open, save and close it.
[09:01] <bubbasaures> people will help is all
[09:01] <quackgyver> I'm new to Linux so I need to know what to do specifically
[09:01] <somsip> bubbasaures: actually...as cfhowlett says, that factoid and all related ones have been deleted. So maybe the ops are up for discussions in here. I'd hope not though, so I'd still recommend #ubuntu-offtopic for it
[09:02] <bubbasaures> somsip, That's fine just trying to be supportive under the sytem in place. ;)
[09:02] <onla> somsip: ok I try there. I will see when I boot next time, i don't bother to boot now )
[09:02] <somsip> bubbasaures: I can see - just trying to figure out what we should do now the factoid has changed. I guess I'll just ignore best/poll requests as it's not clear what the ops expect now
[09:03] <bubbasaures> somsip, I generally do sounds lika plan.
[09:04] <lukblack> DoCToR46.bLaCkDr4g0n.NeT
[09:04] <bubbasaures> mmmm spam where that toast
[09:04] <somsip> bubbasaures: discussions that start with that question usually descent into a miasma of OT followup questions...each to their own though, until the ops shout at us. Anyway...OT myself here
[09:05] <bubbasaures> yeah it does. ;)
[09:07] <quackgyver> Ok so I did what http://askubuntu.com/questions/452042/why-is-my-apache-not-working-after-upgrading-to-ubuntu-14-04 suggested and it still doesn't work
[09:07] <quackgyver> I'm still getting:
[09:07] <quackgyver> AH00526: Syntax error on line 74 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf:
[09:07] <quackgyver> Invalid Mutex directory in argument file:${APACHE_LOCK_DIR}
[09:09] <somsip> quackgyver: how are you 'running' apache2?
[09:09] <quackgyver> somsip: I don't know. I don't know anything about Linux. All I know is that I installed Ubuntu and followed the instructions specified on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:10] <quackgyver> and when I get to "Installing Apache 2" I get that error
[09:10] <somsip> quackgyver: you've said you get the error message when you run apache2. What do you do immediately prior to getting that error message?
[09:10] <quackgyver> somsip: Oh. I type "apache2" into the console.
[09:11] <somsip> quackgyver: don't. Just do sudo service apache2 start (or restart). No idea why apache2 is on it's own on that wiki as a suggested command.
[09:12] <quackgyver> somsip: Okay, that worked. But it says "Installing Apache2", and you are talking about merely starting it. Does this mean that apache2 is already installed at this point?
[09:12] <somsip> quackgyver: and if the guide is not clear, sudo apt-get install apache2 will install it
[09:12] <somsip> quackgyver: you tell me - it's your computer.
[09:13] <quackgyver> somsip: Well, I just followed the instructions as specified on that page.
[09:13] <quackgyver> So I don't know.
[09:14] <somsip> quackgyver: if you install lamp-server^ in the second step, then it should be installed. Either way, is it doing what you want now?
[09:14] <quackgyver> somsip: Ah, that explains it. Then I guess it's already installed
[09:14] <quackgyver> And yeah it started up properly now
[09:14] <quackgyver> No errors
[09:15] <quackgyver> Someone should fix that Wiki page I think :/
[09:15] <somsip> quackgyver: you were not reading the guide. the section 'Installing Apache 2' starts with "To only install the apache2 webserver..." and as you had already installed the full lamp stack, you did not need to do this
[09:16] <ubuntu586> Hi all, I have a weird, obscure problem. Apparently, Korean input (ibus-hangul) works on certain locales but not others, at least on my computer (vanilla install of Ubuntu 14.10).
[09:16] <ubuntu586> I've tested this on two different computers (both with fresh installs), so this seems to be reproducible.
[09:17] <quackgyver> Well, I think clarifications would be in place. Pages like these can be overwhelming for newbies since it requires you to simultaneously interpret a lot of new facts and terms.
[09:17] <quackgyver> But yeah you are right.
[09:18] <ubuntu586> On the other hand, some other computers that I have access to, which (probably) were upgraded from 14.04 don't seem to have this problem.
[09:19] <ubuntu586> Any ideas?
[09:20] <somsip> ubuntu586: with it being weird and obscure, you may find reporting a bug gets you a response. Less likely there is someone in here with the same use case as you
[09:20] <ubuntu586> somsip: Yeah, I figured.... Well, I figured there's no harm in trying.
[09:20] <somsip> ubuntu586: indeed
[09:22] <weblydz> I am not Charlie, I am Muslim Against Killings --> http://adf.ly/wDL4i
[09:22] <ikonia> weblydz: please don't post that sort of content
[09:22] <ikonia> that is not this channels goal
[09:22] <weblydz> ok
[09:23] <cfhowlett> webbyz, that's nice but off topic here
[09:23] <ikonia> !topic | weblydz
[09:23] <weblydz> sorry
[09:24] <blueingress> Hi,I have problem...when I execute the command "scp file1<EMAIL_ADDRESS>what happen? where will the file go in host2?
[09:24] <EriC^^> blueingress: to your home dir
[09:24] <ikonia> blueingress: it won't
[09:24] <ikonia> you need a : on the end
[09:24] <ikonia> or it will just go to a file called user1@host2 on your local machine
[09:24] <EriC^^> blueingress: you can specify by user@host:/path/to/destination
[09:25] <blueingress> ikonia EriC^^, SO nothing happened?
[09:25] <EriC^^> blueingress: if you didn't have a : at the end no
[09:25] <EriC^^> ( i dont think so, did you get any error? )
[09:26] <blueingress> EriC^^, Thanks, I just afraid that the file is important, that it has been placed to somewhere I don't know.
[09:26] <blueingress> EriC^^, no error...
[09:26] <EriC^^> blueingress: i think it was copied to your local pc then as user1@host2
[09:26] <EriC^^> in the dir you were in
[09:27] <blueingress> EriC^^, ^-^ yes..
[09:27] <ikonia> because you missed :
[09:28] <blueingress> ikonia, :-) that is right.
[09:33] <Industrial> Hi.
[09:33] <Industrial> I have configured a different window manager then Unity. I now have Xmonad running.
[09:34] <Industrial> I would like to start 2 bash files when I log in from GDM
[09:34] <Industrial> How do i do that?
[09:34] <Industrial> I used to use .xinitrc with the startx command without GDM, but that was not on ubuntu, and I'd rather keep GDM now because.. easy..
[09:38] <stevenm> is there another way of accomplishing     echo hello | sudo tee /file    without it printing also to stdout?
[09:39] <Fuchs> stevenm: yes, don't be silly by using tee.   sudo sh -c "echo foo > file"
[09:39] <Fuchs> stevenm: or >>, note that > will overwrite the contents of file.
[09:41] <stevenm> Fuchs, yeah I've seen that method used on the suse build service thing - I didn't think relaying on sh would be good though
[09:42] <Fuchs> a lot better than relying on tee
[09:42] <Fuchs> why do you think it's a bad idea to rely on something as basic as sh?
[09:42] <stevenm> well the original sh is deprecated - but i guess these days you don't know what it's pointed at
[09:43] <Fuchs> So?
[09:43] <Fuchs> if a shell misbehaves with something as simple as echo foo > bar, the distribution linking sh to such a misbehaving shell shouldn't exist in the first place.
[09:44] <Fuchs> it's standardized good enough for your use case, if the distribution breaks it, it's the distributions problem. Tee is a lot less likely to work than sh is.
[09:44] <stevenm> Fuchs, so lets say you're doing 2 lines at once     sudo sh -c "echo -e "line1\nline2" > /file"
[09:44] <stevenm> not only are you not sure if whatever sh is pointed at has -e in its version of echo - but you've had to quote inside quotes
[09:45] <stevenm> tbh i'd rather just have a silent tee
[09:45] <Fuchs> as said: it's standardized good enough for your use case, while you have exactly zero guarantee that the distribution offers tee in the standard configuration. So by going with your argumentation the tee solution is even worse.
[09:45] <stevenm> i guess I can silence tee anyway by just redirecting it's output
[09:46] <Fuchs> then use a different command, because that behaviour is exactly what tee is for
[09:46] <stevenm> Fuchs, using sh - would you put ' inside " or " inside ' or use the same?
[09:46] <ppf> is this an appropriate place for pulseaudio questions?
[09:46] <ppf> i'm frequently seeing this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9744204/
[09:46] <stevenm> ppf, probably better #pulseaudio
[09:46] <Fuchs> ppf: there is #pulseaudio for specific ones, but ubuntu related: sure
[09:47] <Fuchs> stevenm: I'd probably do it per line just to make sure it works
[09:47] <stevenm> Fuchs, meh that's worse.. i've got things that make a desktop icon is one line (as a .desktop is just 6 lines)
[09:47] <stevenm> *in
[09:47] <Fuchs> stevenm: it depends on whether I know what the target distributions include. If I don't know that, tee is the very last thing I'd use, I'd only go with built-ins and standards such as sh then. Or maybe cat (which is something you could use, btw) which is also standardish enough, compared to tee
[09:48] <stevenm> ah so    echo meow | sudo cat /file     would work?
[09:49] <Fuchs> stevenm: missing a > after the cat
[09:50] <stevenm> yeah doesn't work
[09:50] <stevenm> shame though - although tbh that's alot more obvious to use than tee, it'd be in use in lots of "howto" pages if it did work
[09:50] <Fuchs> and I'd still go with sudo sh - c
[09:50] <Fuchs> -c, even
[09:51] <Fuchs> it's more standardized than tee is, so if you worry about not knowing what installed on the target system, it is more likely to work. You could use printf instead of echo, if you care about multilines, or just go with something that should work in sh
[09:52] <Fuchs> or go line by line, if you want it as failsafe as possible
[09:53] <stevenm> Fuchs, sudo sh -c 'echo "meow\nmeow" > /filedd'
[09:53] <stevenm> interestingly that doesn't require -e
[09:53] <stevenm> but still works
[09:53] <stevenm> oddly if you add in -e    then -e itself gets writtin in to the file
[09:53] <stevenm> weird
[09:54] <Fuchs> probably depends on the implementation of echo, I only have a zsh at hand to test
[09:54]  * FrankD yawns
[09:54]  * Fuchs fills coffee into the open FrankD
[09:54] <stevenm> Fuchs, could it be because \n is expanded before sending to sh ?
[09:55] <Fuchs> stevenm: should not with ' around the command, that should be interpreted by the shell executing it
[09:55] <Fuchs> stevenm: with ": yes. With ': shouldn't
[09:55] <Fuchs> bu some shells behave a bit odd
[09:55] <stevenm> hmm odd then
[09:56] <stevenm> i'll stick with tee I guess
[09:56] <Fuchs> then you could just redirect STDOUT to /dev/null. I personally think this is a tinkered workaround at best, but as I don't know your usecase ...
[10:06] <f3lix> Rather than editing Samba's main smb.conf file, can you refer to an external configuration file, or drop a configuration file at a specific location (possibly with a specific extension) to have it read alongside the main conf?
[10:06] <f3lix> (for the server)
[10:13] <f3lix> I mean, AFAICT the include statement belongs to a section… I'd like to include a file with settings in different sections, including [global]
[10:18] <gagalicious> : Sub-process returned an error code
[10:18] <gagalicious> how to see error log?
[10:19] <f3lix> dmesg | tail, or tail /var/log/kern.log
[10:19] <f3lix> usually
[10:19] <f3lix> depends on the process
[10:20] <gagalicious> how do i clear dmesg previous messages
[10:21] <f3lix> you can't. and there's no need. is it because you're looking for something specific? if so, grep for it, e.g. "dmesg | grep SOME_NAME"
[10:22] <f3lix> if you need to scroll text in a TTY, you can use Shift+PgUp
[10:22] <dionysus69> hey guys my nautilus hangs when I start a folder of any kind and takes 20 seconds or something to start, any ideas why ?
[10:22] <f3lix> dionysus69: could be a broken network mount?
[10:23] <f3lix> dionysus69: does "df" or "mount" in a terminal hang as well?
[10:23] <dionysus69> f3lix: when I start a program called files, without opening any specific network, just the home directory
[10:23] <dionysus69> f3lix: nope they dont hang
[10:24] <f3lix> dionysus69: well, if it's nautilus hanging, it may still be a broken mount even if you're not using it
[10:24] <dionysus69> where would that mount be ? how do I remove it ?
[10:24] <f3lix> dionysus69: oh, ok, well then it's probably not that. don't really know anything about nautilus per se, sorry :/
[10:24] <f3lix> dionysus69: well, since df doesn't hang, it's not that. just happened a lot to me, so it was worth a try ;)
[10:24] <dionysus69> f3lix: hmm ok thanks anyway :D
[10:25] <f3lix> :)
[10:29] <saleem> my dell e6500 laptop has lspci | grep VGA
[10:29] <saleem> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G98M [Quadro NVS 160M] (rev a1) , i installed nvidia-current package from precise repos but the driver does not work , how do i fix this issue?
[10:31] <saleem> i installed nvidia -current driver from synaptic because jockey failed to download it
[10:31] <cristian_c> Hello
[10:31] <f3lix> saleem: You might want to try one of the explicit version. In 14.10, -current installs v304. Check which ones you have available (apt-cache search nvidia). For instance, I have both 310 and 319 versions available
[10:31] <saleem> but the driver is not working for me
[10:31] <cristian_c> How can i browse in a mailing list archive via ubuntu?
[10:31] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[10:32] <saleem> f3lix, thanks i will give it a try
[10:32] <f3lix> saleem: And I think you should explicitly uninstall the one you have now (apt-get purge nvidia-current)
[10:32] <f3lix> np
[10:33] <saleem> f3lix, nvidia-current on precise install v304 for me through synaptic
[10:34] <f3lix> saleem:  Yup, here too. You can try nvidia-310 or nvidia-319 instead (the latter is a development version, so you should probably try -310 first)
[10:34] <f3lix> saleem: apt-get update && apt-get install -y nvidia-310 && apt-get purge nvidia-current
[10:34] <saleem> thanks i will try both one by one
[10:34] <ppf> the latest driver is 340, you could also try that one
[10:35] <f3lix> saleem: Don't forget to reboot — there are kernel modules compiled when you install. You did reboot after installing -current, right?
[10:35] <saleem> f3lix, yes once i have installed a driver i will reboot
[10:35] <f3lix> cool ;)
[10:53] <_root_> the new pentadactyl for FF 35 http://a.pomf.se/snnpfb.xpi
[10:53] <_root_> enjoy
[10:56] <sumikan> I'm using LXDE on ubuntu 14.04
[10:57] <sumikan> so, sometimes Logout message can't  be displayed from power button on right side. does anyone resolve this phenomenon?
[10:58] <gual> irc <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:00] <sumikan> why not use the power button on right down side taskbar?
[11:01] <everyun> clear
[11:01] <everyun> test
[11:04] <sumikan> does anyone resolve it? has anyone see same situation?
[11:11] <[Arab]> 1706 members!
[11:12] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:13] <OerHeks> hi BluesKaj
[11:13] <BluesKaj> hey OerHeks
[11:14] <mitt> Hi guys, maybe it's a little bit offtopic but is there an application that works like polkit but doesn't use systemd as dependency? thanks
[11:15] <ingsoc> how do you add bash completion for other commands.  I have a completion script for something else, how do i enable this in ubuntu ?
[11:18] <AndChat228864> Hi till which version wubi is fully functional?
[11:19] <Deepfriedice> AndChat228864: Why?
[11:19] <mitt> AndChat228864: Wubi is dead nah?
[11:19] <AndChat228864> I need that Ubuntu is to install inside win7
[11:20] <Deepfriedice> Wubi was killed off for a reason: AFAIK it never worked particularly well.
[11:20] <Deepfriedice> I'll check though.
[11:20] <AndChat228864> It worked before nah? I will download that version ok.tell me please
[11:21] <mitt> their official site redirecting me to ubuntu site
[11:22] <mitt> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/wubi/20130401/ try this
[11:22] <AndChat228864> Thanks man
[11:22] <OerHeks> AndChat228864, you can install with wubi on your win7, but it is not recommended for production
[11:22] <Deepfriedice> I'm looking, but in the mean time what do you need Wubi for?
[11:23] <mitt> yeah really, why not to take cd or usb
[11:23] <mitt> or vbox
[11:23] <Deepfriedice> According to Wikipedia, Ubuntu 12.04 was the last to support it.
[11:23] <AndChat228864> Man I know its not gud idea but I need it ok.in my PC USB is not working then how can I install without wubi? Now understood?
[11:24] <mitt> back then try the link
[11:25] <AndChat228864> Tried @mitt thanks
[11:25] <AndChat228864> Thanks all
[11:25] <Deepfriedice> Actually, I think I found a Wubi build for 13.04
[11:25] <Deepfriedice> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/wubi/current/
[11:25] <Deepfriedice> Again, what do you want this for?
[11:26] <breadmonster> How do I install GNOME on Ubuntu 14.04?
[11:26] <mitt> @Deepfriedence he said he doesn't have working usb or cd drives
[11:26] <breadmonster> From the software center, yeah?
[11:26] <mitt> @breadmonster the easiest way
[11:28] <breadmonster> mitt: And then what? restart or log out?
[11:28] <mitt> @breadmonster it's better to restart but not required
[11:30] <breadmonster> mitt: Perfect thanks.
[11:31] <mitt> breadmonster: you're welcome
[11:36] <peter_ctn> hi all some help pleasehttp://www.pastebin.ca/2905101 i cant upload street shots
[11:36] <spacepig2001> #tanglu
[11:36] <peter_ctn> screen
[11:38] <phre4k> peter_ctn: what?
[11:38] <svetlana> Wrong window.
[11:38] <svetlana> "screen" is a terminal command.
[11:38] <phre4k> ^ I think he just corrected himself
[11:46] <peter_ctn> any idea guys
[11:46] <mitt> peter_ctn: we need longer description
[11:47] <svetlana> It was just an educated guess.
[11:47] <svetlana> Er, wrong channel...
[11:48] <peter_ctn> mitt: can i email street shots?
[11:48] <peter_ctn> screen
[11:49] <Ben64> post it on imgur.com
[11:50] <mitt> peter_ctn: how is this related to
[11:50] <mitt> Ubuntu
[11:50] <svetlana> peter_ctn: It looks like we can't help without seeing picture. and you can't access it without paying for some sort of service from them.
[11:50] <svetlana> mitt: He has an Ubuntu server I think which fails to boot.
[11:51] <mitt> svetlana: heck, I didn't check the link
[11:52] <kamil_> guys, is it posssible to add vivid repos, using add-apt-repository, and then downgrade with ppa-purge (if something gets wrong?)
[11:53] <Ben64> no
[11:54] <kamil_> Ben64: thanks for info, could you explain me more, please? im just curious why its not possible?
[11:54] <OerHeks> kamil_, you cannot mix utopic and vivid repo's, try it and you'll see
[11:54] <Ben64> kamil_: you'll break everything
[11:55] <peter_ctn> mitt: http://imgur.com/5HAPTab,VmImDKS,BHK3IMH,BYDJk6c,vgZtqKe
[11:55] <svetlana> peter_ctn: the question here is, if the server does not boot now, they appear to refuse to do anything to it -- even simple things such as boot recovery mode -- without prior payment from you.
[11:56] <Ben64> sounds like a terrible host
[11:56] <kamil_> so please tell me, what is better: wait for intel driver updatefor utopic, and waiting for amd to fix fglrx (segfault on boot) or update to vivid and stick with open source drivers?
[11:57] <svetlana> peter_ctn: to me it looks like the networking service is not configured properly (image 2), and I need more logs in order to understand what to do about it.
[11:58] <OerHeks> Vivid is in alpha stage, so we do not recommend to upgrade yet.
[11:59] <OerHeks> kamil_, what is you rissue exactly? what ATI card gives troubles?
[11:59] <OerHeks> -r
[11:59] <kamil_> OerHeks: i got X.org segmentation fault on boot when using fglrx
[12:00] <ljunggren> kamil_: using fglrx from repositories or installed from amd website?
[12:00] <kamil_> OerHeks: heard that this bug is active since january 2013
[12:00] <kamil_> ljunggren: both
[12:00] <kamil_> ljunggren: tried repos (14.6), tried 14.9 and newest 14.12
[12:00] <mitt> kamil_: in Debian it's called FrankenDebian, I had such thing and it becomes really hard to maintain system, in Ubuntu I think it's even worse
[12:01] <ljunggren> kamil_: it was the same issie with 14.6 from repos?
[12:01] <kamil_> ljunggren: yes
[12:01] <kamil_> ljunggren: on trusty too, now i have utopic
[12:02] <kamil_> ljunggren: i just send xorg.0.log to bugzilla http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1129
[12:02] <kamil_> yes, thats my bug
[12:02] <OerHeks> kamil_, what ATI card?
[12:02] <kamil_> but i sa
[12:03] <mitt> kamil_: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian it's called Shiny New Stuff Syndrome
[12:03] <kamil_> OerHeks: i have intel hd 4000 + radeon hd 8570m
[12:03] <ljunggren> isnt intel hd 4000 much better for using with linux?
[12:03] <kamil_> mitt: yes, but this bug was first reported 2 years ago
[12:03] <kamil_> ljunggren: not really, battle.net is messed up with intel https://bugs.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=49667
[12:04] <kamil_> ljunggren: i managed to configure radeon open source drivers with dri_prime
[12:05] <kamil_> but glmark shows that intel have 2 times more points than radeon (and should be vice versa)
[12:05] <mitt> kamil_: I don't think in new version it would be better
[12:06] <mitt> will be*
[12:07] <kamil_> mitt: :/ i still have hope that amd fix that bug
[12:08] <kamil_> btw. dontbrakedebian page is nice
[12:08] <ljunggren> graphics driver on linux has only brought pain for me
[12:16] <GrayShade> hello, i'm writing a daemon that will start under upstart. is it ok to detect upstart by looking for UPSTART_JOB in the environment?
[12:17] <phre4k> GrayShade: why not use an upstart script to start it? Then you know upstart's running
[12:18] <GrayShade> i.e. to keep things simple i'm planning to use "expect stop" for readiness notification, but i only want that to happen when running under upstart
[12:18] <GrayShade> phre4k: you mean setting an env variable or passing an argument from the upstart config?
[12:18] <phre4k> GrayShade: yes. Or *only* start via upstart
[12:19] <GrayShade> i see. but are there any caveats regarding UPSTART_JOB?
[12:20] <phre4k> GrayShade: /join #ubuntu-app-devel I think
[12:20] <GrayShade> right, thanks!
[12:20] <phre4k> GrayShade: sorry, I just use systemd and sysv :D
[12:21] <GrayShade> heh, me too :)
[12:22] <colombeen> ichannels
[12:22] <colombeen> !channels
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> !upstart | GrayShade maybe here
[12:23] <GrayShade> ubottu, lotuspsychje: thanks
[12:24] <GrayShade> colombeen, that is (:
[12:32] <kirtah> what's the point of the ubuntu installer's lvm option that just makes a giant root partition that fills the disk? why use lvm that way?
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> !lvm | kirtah
[12:34] <quackgyver> How do I create a shortcut to a folder in Ubuntu=?
[12:34] <quackgyver> -=
[12:36] <RafaelK> hello folks
[12:36] <RafaelK> something is wrong on your server : http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/
[12:37] <ikonia> RafaelK: what are you talking about ?
[12:37] <RafaelK> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/
[12:37] <phre4k> quackgyver: terminal: ln -s /path/to/destination [link name, optional]
[12:37] <Seveas> RafaelK: that's just a symlink loop (/ubuntu/ is a symlink to /)
[12:37] <phre4k> quackgyver: apart from that there might be a "create shortcut" option in your file manager. Which are you using?
[12:38] <RafaelK> i get Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates/main mysql-common all 5.5.38-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>==> default:   404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[12:39] <quackgyver> phre4k: just the default one that comes with ubuntu lts
[12:39] <quackgyver> 64 bit
[12:41] <quackgyver> Ok, "Make Link" worked when I gave myself ownership of the parent folder
[12:41] <quackgyver> that's weird
[12:41] <rodrigograca31_> quackgyver:
[12:42] <RafaelK> i get error on apt-get install mysql…
[12:43] <RafaelK> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mysql-5.5/libmysqlclient18_5.5.38-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[12:43] <rodrigograca31_> quackgyver: at least in Linux Mint if you hold ALT when draging and drop the item it shows "link here"
[12:43] <Sherlock_regus> Eric^^
[12:43] <phre4k> quackgyver: you need permissions to create files, yes.
[12:43] <quackgyver> rodrigograca31_: I'd use Mint in a heartbeat if it wasn't for the fact that it crashed to hell 10 minutes into using it for the first time :)
[12:43] <Sherlock_regus> The repair didnt work
[12:43] <RafaelK> in this folder on server is only 14.04.40
[12:43] <sacarlson> RafaelK: did you try sudo apt-get update
[12:43] <RafaelK> yes
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> Sherlock_regus: what did you try?
[12:44] <quackgyver> Anyway thanks for all the help
[12:44] <Sherlock_regus> I was trying to boot into my windows 8 installed in ssd
[12:44] <rodrigograca31_> quackgyver: ... Yheaa linux has some quirks in some PCs/hardware,.....
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> Sherlock_regus: you dualboot with ubuntu?
[12:45] <quackgyver> :3
[12:45] <Sherlock_regus> I accidntally dd my hard disk on which the boot file was present
[12:45] <Sherlock_regus> Ya i had a ubuntu lso
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> Sherlock_regus: did you try an update-grub?
[12:45] <Sherlock_regus> Ya
[12:45] <Seveas> RafaelK: pastebin the output of sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy libmysqlclient18
[12:45] <ikonia> 18 ?
[12:46] <ikonia> isn't it 16 ?
[12:46] <Sherlock_regus> Its my original win8
[12:46] <Sherlock_regus> :(
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> Sherlock_regus: make your life easy and install ubuntu single on HD
[12:47] <Sherlock_regus> I hav installed ubuntu
[12:47] <Sherlock_regus> But i need word and ppt frequently
[12:47] <Sherlock_regus> So windows is much useful
[12:47] <Sherlock_regus> And cstrike also...
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> Sherlock_regus: you can use microsoft documents from ubuntu aswell
[12:48] <Sherlock_regus> No i mean creating
[12:48] <cfhowlett> Sherlock_regus, libreoffice creates all manner of windows documents.  research
[12:48] <binarydepth> office docuents you mean
[12:48] <Sherlock_regus> Ya
[12:48] <cfhowlett> Sherlock_regus, and counterstrike is on steam/linux
[12:48] <binarydepth> documets*
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> Sherlock_regus: there are microsoft online webapps for ubuntu aswell
[12:49] <Sherlock_regus> But they are online
[12:49] <Sherlock_regus> I just want to fix it
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> Sherlock_regus: maybe it needs a fix from windows side
[12:50] <Sherlock_regus> I tried that
[12:50] <Sherlock_regus> But didnt work
[12:50] <Sherlock_regus> I installd a win8.1
[12:50] <cfhowlett> Sherlock_regus, if windows can't fix windows ... not much ubuntu can do about it
[12:50] <binarydepth> yep
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> Sherlock_regus: check the ##windows guys, they might know a bootrepair trick?
[12:51] <Sherlock_regus> But there should be some way out
[12:51] <binarydepth> go to eightforums.com
[12:51] <cfhowlett> Sherlock_regus, that IS the way out.  ask ##windows ... they're the experts.
[12:52] <Sherlock_regus> I tried that they are just bunch of idiots
[12:52] <klew> anyone with experience of swapping to an nfs-share? taking daily backups of 300+GB swap is getting on my nerves
[12:52] <cfhowlett> Sherlock_regus, or learn to use the equivalent - and abundant - linux tools
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> Sherlock_regus: if your ubuntu is working and you did an update-grub think we cant do much more from our side
[12:53] <Sherlock_regus> Its easier to cut away the disease but its difficult to cure it...
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> !uefi > Sherlock_regus maybe read up here
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> Sherlock_regus: windows is the desease  you need to cut :p
[12:54] <cfhowlett> Sherlock_regus, windows does not co-exist peacefully with other OS's.  Complaints >>> Microsoft
[12:55] <binarydepth> Windows 8 was fine with linux hen I had it
[12:56] <binarydepth> I had a license from college and had to make some homework in Office
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> !nfs | klew maybe more info here
[12:56] <cfhowlett> Sherlock_regus, you might want to consider virtualbox for your windows or perhaps wine for MS Office