[05:38] <Amaranth> jordo23: You want the evolution-exchange connector.
[05:38] <_nano_> !fluxkbox
[05:38] <ubotu> _nano_: Are you smoking crack?
[05:39] <_nano_> !fluxbox
[05:39] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[05:39] <mrkoje> !beer
[05:39] <diesel> xored: Are you using stock breezy kernel?
[05:39] <jordo23> Amaranth: I can get a partial connection, but the calandars and contact lists don't connect.
[05:39] <xored> diesel: yes
[05:39] <jordo23> Amaranth: mail works fine though
[05:39] <xored> or one second
[05:39] <Amaranth> jordo23: Dunno about how it works, I think all it does is mail.
[05:39] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org   interessante cliccate
[05:39] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org
[05:39] <meuserj|work> Amaranth, no.. it does everything but tasks
[05:40] <xored> diesel: 2.6.8-2-386, but its debian sarge on my server. iam using breezy here on my desktop
[05:40] <meuserj|work> jordo23, everything works fine for me....
[05:40] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org    bellissimo
[05:40] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org
[05:40] <diesel> xored: So you are trying to get the temp on your debian sarge server?
[05:40] <wdh> jordo23, you already installed the "evolution-exchange" package from synaptic?
[05:41] <Jormundgand> I'm having trouble installing a mouse theme. I tried putting the folder in both ~/.themes and /usr/share/themes and the mouse preference box only acknowledges "Human" as existing.
[05:41] <jordo23> wdh: yeah....works fine....installed the connector too. I can send and receive mail through our exchange server, but the other components do not work (calandar, task list, contacts, etc).
[05:41] <xored> diesel: both. First the server, then here
[05:41] <TokenBad> man what is up with this.....it will not install the foomatic drivers!!!
[05:42] <thegladiator> diesel, can i copy files within my drives using LIVE ubuntu cd ?
[05:42] <wdh> jordo23, well.. thats as much as i know about it :P that you need the plugin
[05:42] <jordo23> wdh: thanks :)
[05:42] <diesel> xored: Do you have acpi on your ubuntu machine
[05:42] <xored> diesel: something similar to "top" would be nice
[05:42] <diesel> thegladiator: sure
[05:42] <meuserj|work> jordo23, well, task list won't work, because the evolution-exchange plugin is just a scraper for the exchange web frontend, and it doesn't support tasks.
[05:42] <xored> diesel: yes, its an AMD64, but the server is an P III
[05:42] <jordo23> meuserj: I am more concerned with the calandar.
[05:43] <singinmatt13> anyone here have any experience w/ alsa?
[05:43] <diesel> xored: so can you cat /proc/acpi/... on your desktop?
[05:43] <xored> one second
[05:43] <thegladiator> diesel, what about deleting them ? and acessing onother linux file system?
[05:43] <meuserj|work> jordo23, well.. all I know is it works for me.. If you could give me an error or something....
[05:43] <diesel> thegladiator: yes, you can do that as well
[05:43] <jordo23> meuserj: ok...one sec.
[05:43] <dream-x> hey, anyone here can help me with a font problem I have in Gnome?
[05:43] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org      pleas
[05:44] <TokenBad> can anyone please help me with maybe why foomatic is giving me this error when try to install the driver that it don't exist or I don't have permissions to install it..even though going through cups to install it
[05:44] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org      pleas
[05:44] <TokenBad> ?
[05:44] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org      pleas
[05:44] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org      pleas
[05:44] <thegladiator> diesel, at present i am on fc4 and the grub.conf was destroyed . for the moment i need to reinstall it before i can install ubuntu
[05:44] <Vale> its hungry
[05:44] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org      pleas
[05:44] <xored> diesel:  cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/ there is no "temp" in
[05:44] <MalcolmO> I'm using Live CD and can see my Windows network but not my files.
[05:44] <thegladiator> diesel, is it posible to restore this information ?
[05:44] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org      pleas
[05:44] <Vale> i'm hungry
[05:44] <diesel> xored: what are the contents of that directory
[05:44] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org      pleas
[05:44] <Ng> !ops
[05:45] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[05:45] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org      pleas
[05:45] <diesel> thegladiator: yes, using a live cd is a good way to restore grub
[05:45] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org      pleas
[05:45] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org      pleas
[05:45] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org      pleas
[05:45] <meuserj|work> thegladiator, you shouldn't need to re-install grub.. ubuntu does that at the end of the install... you could also use a live cd
[05:45] <meuserj|work> someone ban vale...
[05:45] <Vale> http://www.codif.altervista.org      pleas
[05:45] <xored> dieman:  ; info  limit  power  throttling
[05:45] <thegladiator> i see
[05:45] <jordo23> meuserj: I am trying to reinstall it through apt, but it keeps asking me for the Ubuntu cd....how does one fix this? Edit sources.list?
[05:45] <thegladiator> is ubuntu installation easy ?
[05:45] <Jaymac> yes
[05:46] <thegladiator> i am not used to text baswed installation
[05:46] <Jormundgand> Ubuntu installation couldn't be easier.
[05:46] <meuserj|work> jordo23, yeah.. comment out the cd line (should be at the top)
[05:46] <dream-x> I have this problem with Gnome fonts: after installing kubuntu-desktop and logging in KDE for some times, Gnome fonts are... no longer under Gnome control!
[05:46] <diesel> xored: within cat /proc/acpi what do you have?
[05:46] <Jaymac> gladiator.. you basically hit enter a few times and enter your name
[05:46] <Jaymac> :)
[05:46] <diesel> thegladiator: very easy
[05:46] <dream-x> I can't change them, nor their dimension
[05:46] <meuserj|work> thegladiator, it is text based, but in my experience the easiest installation
[05:46] <dream-x> does anyone know how to solve this problem?
[05:46] <arod--> thegladiator i never installed linux in my life and i did it fine
[05:47] <etnoy> is it possible to let rsync read a remote directory with root perms, but only r/o?
[05:47] <thegladiator> ok i am going ahead then
[05:47] <thegladiator> how much time will it take ?
[05:47] <meuserj|work> etnoy, yeah....
[05:47] <thegladiator> 30 minuites ?
[05:47] <Amaranth> thegladiator: 20-40 minutes
[05:47] <thegladiator> i am on AMD XP 2800
[05:47] <etnoy> I have a backup server that needs to read from a fileserver, but I don't like the idea of giving it root perms
[05:47] <thegladiator> thanks
[05:47] <meuserj|work> etnoy, make sure it is mod 600
[05:48] <Amaranth> some have got it done in 15
[05:48] <thegladiator> Amarnathji :D
[05:48] <diesel> xored: look for thermal in /proc/acpi
[05:48] <thegladiator> thats nice
[05:48] <etnoy> meuserj|work: sure, but that's not the solution I seek
[05:48] <Amaranth> it's mostly how fast your CD-ROM drive is, i guess
[05:48] <meuserj|work> etnoy, give me more details
[05:48] <thegladiator> achcha
[05:48] <meuserj|work> etnoy, I think that maybe facl's is what you want
[05:48] <etnoy> see, I need it to read all files in the /srv and /etc directory, which have all kinds of strange permissions and all
[05:48] <stieve_> nope linksys router doesn't work
[05:48] <stieve_> im connect to it
[05:49] <etnoy> meuserj|work: is it some sort of extended acl:s?
[05:49] <rosen> what should I use to mount an iso image ? .. the equivalent to daemontools in windows
[05:49] <meuserj|work> etnoy, yes.. and that is exactly what you want... let me see if I can find a good reference...
[05:49] <etnoy> meuserj|work: I've heard there should be some special thing with rsync
[05:49] <etnoy> meuserj|work: great
[05:50] <meuserj|work> etnoy, what filesystem is this on?
[05:50] <etnoy> meuserj|work: I think that I mostly would like a soluiton that just snaps in, because if I make a backup and need to recover it, all the perms must be unchanged
[05:50] <etnoy> meuserj|work: ext3
[05:51] <etnoy> meuserj|work: /srv here has got quite a number of files, and I cannot strip the perms off. The solution I seek is something that allows rsync to read any file on the system, including a file's permission and uid/gid
[05:51] <meuserj|work> etnoy, http://www.ids.org.au/main/tutorials/acl_howto.php
[05:51] <seeds> hello anyone installed azureus in debain or ubuntu?
[05:52] <Amaranth> !azureus
[05:52] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[05:52] <meuserj|work> etnoy, acls allow you to add additional users and groups to the permissions.... other than just the one user and one group that is natively available
[05:52] <rosen> what program should I use to be able to watch an .iso file before I burn it ?
[05:52] <jordo23> meuser: I reinstalled it because it wouldn't start under Gnome, still does the same thing. After clicking on the icon, the starting Evolution box opens, but nothing after that now.
[05:52] <Mazoku> rosen you can mount .iso file
[05:53] <Amaranth> rosen: you have to mount it or extract the contents with the archive manager
[05:53] <christianp> Hi all: does anyone know where can i find boh (in what repository)?
[05:53] <etnoy> meuserj|work: okay, I'll give that a shot but it is probably not what I seek
[05:53] <etnoy> meuserj|work: thanks
[05:53] <diesel> rosen:  mount -o loop /path/to/iso /mountpoint
[05:53] <christianp> i need a tool to create divx from my handycam video
[05:53] <etnoy> meuserj|work: is all that in the POSIX standard? I don't want to go with rouge solutions
[05:53] <meuserj|work> acl is POSIX
[05:54] <etnoy> meuserj|work: okay
[05:54] <rosen> I think I'll just extract it then ;) ... havent mounted anything yet, and dont want to mess my box up now that I finally got it all up and running ;)
[05:54] <etnoy> strange I never heard of those "extended perms"
[05:54] <rosen> thanks guys
[05:54] <meuserj|work> etnoy, they are VERY useful once you get the hang of them
[05:54] <Jormundgand> I'm having trouble installing a mouse theme. I tried putting the folder in both ~/.themes and /usr/share/themes and the mouse preference box only acknowledges "Human" as existing. Any help?
[05:55] <etnoy> meuserj|work: so if I understand it correctly it can extend perms above the rwxrwxrwx?
[05:55] <etnoy> that actually seems great
[05:55] <digitalSurgeon> when are you guys going to fix flash plugin ?
[05:56] <etnoy> bbl
[05:56] <meuserj|work> etnoy, yeah.. you can add users and give them seperate perms... you can also set default perms on a directory and all files created inside it will inherit those perms...
[05:56] <singinmatt13> Ok, problem, I have alsa-utils installed, but I can't find alsaconf.  "locate alsaconf" provides no results, and using the coman tell me that the command is not found
[05:56] <TokenBad> can anyone please help me with maybe why foomatic is giving me this error when try to install the driver that it don't exist or I don't have permissions to install it..even though going through cups to install it
[05:56] <Mazoku> Jormundgand install gcursor it's help you. sudo apt-get install gcursor
[05:57] <rosen> hmm ... I guess it wont be nessecary ... when I try to copy files from a windowscomputer on the network it halts at 100% .. and when I close the prompt it erases the whole deal.. makes no sense
[05:57] <meuserj|work> crap.. I need to stop watching this channel and do real work......
[05:57] <seeds> k. i  have read like lotsa stuff about installing it
[05:57] <seeds> i got java installed but the client still asking for other files
[05:58] <seeds> dependencies
[05:58] <sethk> seeds, specifics?
[05:59] <seeds> well with the latest azureus version it was asking for some lib files
[05:59] <zandaa> hi people, I'm kinda having trouble with sound working in flash (whenever GAIM or something else plays a sound while flash is loading, the sound gets disabled)
[05:59] <sethk> seeds, that doesn't help much.  If you told us _which_ library files, we might be able to help
[05:59] <seeds> so i tried an earlier version and now it says my java shold be upgraded
[05:59] <ninnghizidha> Is there a KUBUNTU-Room too?
[05:59] <sethk> zandaa, are you running a sound server?
[05:59] <HymnToLife> !kubuntu
[05:59] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, not a fork ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[06:00] <seeds> now am using an earlier version of azureus
[06:00] <sethk> seeds, you'll find, if you have missing libraries, and you change something other than libraries, you won't solve a problem involving missing libraries
[06:00] <ninnghizidha> thanks a lot, ubotu :-)
[06:00] <zandaa> sethk, what exactly do you mean?
[06:00] <sethk> seeds, that's going around in circles
[06:00] <sethk> zandaa, it sounds like contention for the sound device
[06:00] <seeds> it dont ask for those lib files anymore but says that my java must be upgraded
[06:00] <sethk> zandaa, there is a sound server than manages access by multiple processes to the sound device
[06:00] <zandaa> sethk, soundserver is enabled
[06:00] <sethk> zandaa, ok.
[06:00] <seeds> am using debian sarge
[06:01] <zandaa> sethk, and I'm running the ESD sound drivers or whateva
[06:01] <sethk> seeds, you would have better luck, perhaps, on a debian channel.  I know #debian is obnoxious.  but ubuntu package management is sufficiently different from debian as to make this sort of question difficult to answer here.
[06:01] <sethk> zandaa, ok, it was worth checking.
[06:02] <seeds> k. thnx
[06:02] <sethk> zandaa, I wonder if something (flash, perhaps) is bypassing the sound server.
[06:02] <seeds> i have checked the the debian channel without much luck
[06:02] <zandaa> sethk, it's running a 32-bit firefox on a 64-bit system using the linux32 package
[06:03] <sethk> zandaa, that shouldn't be a problem
[06:03] <seeds> is ubuntu kinda debian based?
[06:03] <sethk> seeds, yes, it is
[06:03] <seeds> k
[06:03] <Davey> seeds, theres no "kinda" about it :)
[06:03] <sethk> seeds, but your question is very version/depository sensitive
[06:03] <zandaa> sethk, ok... what exactly is an rc-file/
[06:03] <seeds> ok
[06:03] <seeds> i have an ubuntu cd
[06:03] <sethk> zandaa, it's a convention for naming a configuration or script file
[06:03] <seeds> tried it once
[06:03] <seeds> jus the live cd toguh
[06:03] <sethk> zandaa, for example, .bashrc is the initialization file for bash
[06:04] <sethk> zandaa, there is nothing special about the files, as I said it is just a convention that some programs follow
[06:04] <zandaa> sethk, oh wait, I forgot the multiple sound howto written by ubuntu demon
[06:04] <zandaa> sethk, I'll try it out now
[06:04] <sethk> zandaa, plus, another type of rc file are those in /etc used to start/stop/control the system
[06:04] <Johnson> hi
[06:04] <Johnson> can i ask a question
[06:04] <Weasel--> sure
[06:05] <meuserj|work> anyone here use evolution with GnuPG?
[06:05] <santi2005> en castellano
[06:05] <Johnson> i downloaded aircrack i have aintell 2200b/g card and i wondered if i can use etheral to capture the packets so wep crack can crack them
[06:05] <Johnson> is this possible
[06:05] <Johnson> ?
[06:06] <aris> hi people. I had a paper blocked in my printer and had to shut it down to repair it. now, I've deleted the job and reconnected my printer, but it doesn't stop printing crap. how may I flush the // port buffer ?
[06:06] <santi2005> alguien que hable castellano
[06:07] <dpupp> santi2005 #ubuntu-es
[06:07] <dpupp> ahi te ayudaran en castellano
[06:07] <mlalkaka> hi everyone. if a user's password expires, and the user logs in (or tries to log in) graphically [through gdm] , how will the user be notified that her password has expired, and how will she be able to change it?
[06:08] <MickMcMack> Hi, could anyone explain this: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ao1h0556.html ?
[06:09] <bob832> aris: are you using CUPS for your printer?
[06:09] <dpupp> santi2005 unete a  #ubuntu-es : /join #ubuntu-es
[06:09] <mlalkaka> MickMcMack, what's the problem?
[06:09] <santi2005> gracias
[06:10] <MickMcMack> mlalkaka, add up the CPU loads. O_O
[06:10] <aris> bob832, yes. the job has been removed
[06:10] <MickMcMack> It comes to 150%. :(
[06:10] <bill2> hi, looking for help, just installed mozilla suite, getting error messages, need to install personal security manager, cant find it anywhere? any body know where i can download it?
[06:10] <mlalkaka> MickMcMack, that's weird. how did one of them close soon after?
[06:10] <aris> but there is still garbage into lp buffer
[06:10] <MickMcMack> mlalkaka, it did that for a good 60 seconds.
[06:11] <mlalkaka> MickMcMack, do you have two cpus?
[06:11] <bob832> aris:  if you want to "flush" it, i would recommend restarting it
[06:11] <Mabus06> How do I take pictures with my webcam? anybody?
[06:11] <MickMcMack> mlalkaka, yessir. But both of them are in use by the top process.
[06:11] <aris> bob832, i already restarted my printer, but i don't want to restart my computer
[06:11] <bob832> aris:  try sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart at the terminal
[06:11] <thegladiator> diesel, it seems i cant do file transfer , it says only root can do that!
[06:11] <thegladiator> <on live cd>
[06:11] <MickMcMack> mlalkaka, if I was only using 100% of one CPU, it would tell me it was at 50% load. Or, that's what it told me on Debian. -_-
[06:12] <thegladiator> how can switch to tooy ?
[06:12] <thegladiator> root ?
[06:12] <thegladiator> can i create a drive name under /mnt in live cd ?
[06:13] <thegladiator> how can i loging as root in the live cd ?
[06:13] <mlalkaka> MickMcMack, i'm not sure then. if that was how it worked on debian, i would suspect the same behaviour on ubuntu. try it with different programs; does it still happen?
[06:13] <thegladiator> diesel, you told me it is possible right ?
[06:13] <bill2>  hi, looking for help, just installed mozilla suite, getting error messages, need to install personal security manager, cant find it anywhere? any body know where i can download it?
[06:13] <MickMcMack> mlalkaka, it's gone back to normal now.
[06:13] <diesel> thegladiator: What live cd are you using?
[06:13] <Corin_777> Seveas, can you find out why ive been banned from #kubuntu-offtopic? i asked nalioth "why the name change?", now im banned... ???
[06:13] <MickMcMack> mlalkaka, I can only assume top was getting itself confused.
[06:13] <thegladiator> breazer
[06:13] <diesel> thegladiator: yes, it is possible
[06:14] <MickMcMack> mlalkaka, but it was v.strange.
[06:14] <thegladiator> 5.10
[06:14] <mlalkaka> if a user's password expires, and the user attempts to log in through gdm, how will the user be notified that her password has expired, and how will she be able to change it?
[06:14] <mlalkaka> MickMcMack, that is strange
[06:14] <lucasvo> when I have a file with lot's of packages for apt and I would like to install them, how can I pass the file directly on to apt?
[06:14] <thegladiator> diesel, when i try to mount a drive it says only root can do that
[06:14] <lucasvo> I tried apt-get install < file but it didn't work
[06:14] <diesel> thegladiator: become root by "sudo su"
[06:15] <diesel> thegladiator: then try mounting
[06:15] <dooglus> mlalkaka: gdm handles password expiry nicely.
[06:15] <thegladiator> alright
[06:15] <bill2>  hi, looking for help, just installed mozilla suite, getting error messages, need to install personal security manager, cant find it anywhere? any body know where i can download it?
[06:15] <lucasvo> I need to install packages which have been held back(unfortunately X) during update to dapper
[06:15] <thegladiator> annd can i make a direcotry in mk dir ?
[06:15] <thegladiator> in /mnt ?
[06:15] <thegladiator> /mnt/E is possible ?
[06:15] <snowblink> lucasvo, dpkg?
[06:15] <dooglus> mlalkaka: you can try it for yourself:  use "sudo passwd -e <username>" to make a user's password expire immediately.  then try logging in as that user through gdm
[06:15] <lucasvo> snowblink: I need to downlaod them first
[06:15] <mlalkaka> dooglus, ok thanks i'll try that
[06:16] <lucasvo> snowblink: isn't it sth. like apt-get install < file.txt
[06:16] <diesel> thegladiator: yes
[06:16] <thegladiator> diesel, there is also one another small issue , i cant acess my ISP site , from where i have to download the connecting client .....the error it says is SSL ver 2 not supported or something
[06:16] <dooglus> mlalkaka: I just tried it and it worked very well.  it said something like "root enforced: you must change your password immediately", then asked for old passwd and new passwd twice.
[06:16] <thegladiator> mozilla is not opening the page
[06:16] <thegladiator> it works in fc4 , knoppix , mozilla
[06:16] <bill2>  hi, looking for help, just installed mozilla suite, getting error messages, need to install personal security manager, cant find it anywhere? any body know where i can download it?
[06:17] <zandaa> sethk, the howto doesn't work... now flash don't have any sound at all
[06:17] <mlalkaka> dooglus, perfect. that's exactly what i was hoping it would do. thanks
[06:17] <sethk> zandaa, ok, that's annoying, but it shows we are on the right track.  that is, we have to make flash coexist with the sound server.
[06:18] <zandaa> sethk, no sound at all... not even when ESD or whatever is not in use....
[06:18] <thegladiator> why is my browser saying SSL ver 2 is not supported or something when i browse a site ?
[06:18] <thegladiator> live cd
[06:18] <Tired_> Hello.  My hard drive is about to fail, what tool can I use to transfer the whole thing (MBR, bootloader, etc) to a new drive?
[06:18] <Seveas> thegladiator, because that site wants to use old crappy ssl2
[06:18] <Seveas> and yor browser only supports ssl3/tls
[06:18] <sethk> Tired_, dd, if the sizes and geometries are the same
[06:18] <thegladiator> Seveas, it is my ISP's site
[06:19] <thegladiator> how can i fix this ?
[06:19] <sethk> Tired_, if they are not, it is a bit more complicated but not difficult
[06:19] <Tired_> no, it's a different drive
[06:19] <diesel> thegladiator: enable SSL2 support in your browser
[06:19] <Seveas> thegladiator, that or kick your ISP
[06:19] <aris> by complaining at your isp first
[06:19] <bill2>  hi, looking for help, just installed mozilla suite, getting error messages, need to install personal security manager, cant find it anywhere? any body know where i can download it?
[06:19] <sethk> Tired_, in that case, you can back up each partition with dd
[06:19] <thegladiator> where is that option in browser ?
[06:19] <sethk> Tired_, and you'll have to set up the partition table manually
[06:19] <diesel> thegladiator: where have you looked?
[06:19] <thegladiator> i am on knoppix live cd now since i can log in from ubntu
[06:19] <JensBru> anyone got some tiime to help me with my wireless connection?
[06:19] <thegladiator> i havent lookde mozilla , now i am on knoppix
[06:20] <sethk> Tired_, then install grub (a boot loader, of which grub is the easiest, to be more precise)
[06:20] <thegladiator> as i told u i cant conenct to net
[06:20] <thegladiator> where is this enable SSL 2 support ?
[06:20] <Tired_> but that wil preserve my kernel setup and such?
[06:20] <teroedni> q:Is alsaconf removed from ubuntu?
[06:20] <thegladiator> only after that i can download the client from my ISP to connect
[06:20] <thegladiator> and connect to net
[06:20] <Amaranth> thegladiator: if you can access your ISPs website you're already connected
[06:20] <sethk> Tired_, yes, if you do it carefully, everything is preserved
[06:21] <thegladiator> Amarnath, i can acess only ISP site , direct connection
[06:21] <Tired_> awesome
[06:21] <sethk> Tired_, I'm being a bit vague because it depends on how your current drive is partitioned
[06:21] <Tired_> thank you.
[06:21] <JensBru> i performed a 'iwconfig', i see 'lo: no wireless extensions', ext0: no wireless connections, sit0: no wireless connections, eth1: NOT READY! ESSID:off/any
[06:21] <thegladiator> from there i shud download cyberoam client
[06:21] <teroedni> q:Is alsaconf removed from ubuntu?
[06:21] <nemlah> Hello all
[06:21] <nemlah> I have a problem confguring my tv card
[06:21] <Amaranth> !info alsaconf
[06:21] <thegladiator> i use a data based connection ...hence i can log in via this client only
[06:21] <Amaranth> !find alsaconf
[06:21] <nemlah> apparently this is a problem for the chipset it has
[06:22] <nemlah> can someone help me?
[06:22] <Amaranth> thegladiator: firefox should have ssl 2 on already
[06:22] <nemlah> Hauppauge wintv pci fm
[06:22] <Tired_> actually, you're being quite specific.  that's exactly the help i needed.  thanks a lot  :)
[06:22] <Amaranth> thegladiator: otherwise it's in the preferences
[06:22] <thegladiator> ok thank you
[06:22] <thegladiator> in ubuntu live cd
[06:22] <thegladiator> it is not supported
[06:22] <thegladiator> ver 5.10
[06:22] <SyL> anybody know the root password in the vmware player version of ubuntu?
[06:22] <teroedni> teroedni@ubuntu:~$ !find alsaconf
[06:22] <thegladiator> which FF version is ubuntu using ?
[06:22] <teroedni> find alsaconf
[06:22] <teroedni> find: alsaconf: No such file or directory
[06:22] <nemlah> 1.0.7
[06:22] <Amaranth> thegladiator: 1.0.7
[06:22] <Tired_> ok, off to fix it before it really dies....
[06:22] <SyL> find linux
[06:22] <thegladiator> thank you
[06:22] <teroedni> qwhy is alsaconf removed?
[06:23] <Amaranth> teroedni: it's not installed by default
[06:23] <nemlah> Someone able to help me with the tv card?
[06:23] <thegladiator> diesel, so sudo su is the command to become root aint it ?
[06:23] <teroedni> why not
[06:23] <nemlah> don't really know where to start
[06:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'alsaconf' returned no results.
[06:23] <diesel> thegladiator: yes
[06:23] <Amaranth> hrm
[06:23] <thegladiator> thank you brb
[06:23] <Amaranth> or maybe it is gone
[06:23] <aris> thegladiator, sudo -s is better
[06:23] <thegladiator> sudo -s okay thank you
[06:23] <zandaa> gotta go, later
[06:24] <Amaranth> teroedni: Most people don't need it, it would take up space on the CD
[06:24] <Amaranth> teroedni: use apt-file to find it
[06:24] <SyL> anybody know the root password in the vmware player version of ubuntu?
[06:24] <Amaranth> SyL: there is no root account, the vmware user password is vmware
[06:24] <nemlah> Someone here experienced with tv cards under linux?
[06:24] <teroedni> amaranth:Gives me nothing
[06:25] <Amaranth> teroedni: that's odd
[06:25] <teroedni> yea:/
[06:25] <SyL> Amaranth: so how do I update the packages then? it requires a root password
[06:25] <Amaranth> !tell syl about sudo
[06:25] <HymnToLife> SyL > nope, it requires YOUR password
[06:26] <SyL> and what if I don't know my password?
[06:26] <HymnToLife> then you are stupid
[06:27] <Amaranth> HymnToLife: ...
[06:27] <Amaranth> SyL: the password is vmware
[06:27] <teroedni> hmm thas a rude robot:/
[06:27] <Agrajag> SyL: it's vmware, someone just told you that
[06:27] <jordo23> meuserj: I got evolution running again. Again, mail works, but calendar does not. When I try to open the calendar it errors, and states it's quitting unexpectedly.
[06:27] <HymnToLife> SyL > how do you login if you don't know your password ?
[06:27] <SyL> HymnToLife: ummm... moron, I didn't install this and if you would have read what I first put then you would know how stupid you really are...
[06:27] <jordo23> meuserj: how do I check which version of the evolution exchange connector I have?
[06:27] <SyL> Amaranth: it's not vmware, I've been trying that for 5 minutes
[06:28] <Amaranth> SyL: it is in the browser appliance image
[06:28] <Amaranth> SyL: if you're using the breezy one i dunnon
[06:28] <Amaranth> -n
[06:28] <Amaranth> SyL: try ubuntu or breezy
[06:28] <Amaranth> or whatever the user is named
[06:29] <SyL> oh nice...
[06:29] <SyL> it was UbUntU
[06:29] <SyL> god damn morons...
[06:29] <gutsohn> #ubuntu-forum.de
[06:30] <jordo23> meuserj|work: I got it running again. How do I check which version of the evolution connector I am running?
[06:30] <_mart> is there a way to do a recursive chmod that affects directories only?
[06:31] <Ng> _mart: you could do someting like find -type d /some/path -exec chmod 777 \{\} \;   but be careful ;)
[06:31] <Ng> and of course with "/some/path" before "-type d"
[06:31] <mauwolff> hi
[06:32] <mauwolff> just a question:
[06:32] <sethk> _mart, find . -type d -exec chmod whatever \;
[06:32] <_mart> thanks
[06:32] <mauwolff> my kernel is 2.6.12-10
[06:32] <sethk> _mart, substitute a path for ., if you don't want to start in the current directory
[06:32] <mauwolff> but i cna't find it's headers
[06:33] <mauwolff> at synaptic i could only find linux-headers 2.6.12-9
[06:33] <sethk> mauwolff, the headers are a separate package
[06:33] <sethk> mauwolff, you have to do the update of the listing
[06:33] <JensBru> Guys, i get 'iwconfig -> eth1 NOT READY! ESSID:off/any' . what i need to do to get wireless working?
[06:33] <gimmulf_> !codec
[06:33] <ubotu> gimmulf_: I haven't a clue
[06:33] <gimmulf_> !codecs
[06:33] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[06:33] <mauwolff> ok
[06:33] <Corin_777> Seveas?
[06:33] <Zugwrack> I believe sudo apt-get linux-headers would select the package for him no?
[06:34] <Ng> plf? cipherfunk? yet more third party repositories? ;/
[06:34] <Amaranth> !info kernel-headers
[06:34] <teroedni> ng:either that or none;)
[06:34] <Amaranth> hrm
[06:34] <HappyFool> Zugwrack: linux-headers-386 (or -k7 or other architectures)
[06:35] <WhyvasLT> JensBru, iwconfig eth1 mode auto
[06:35] <mauwolff> make sense... the current doesn't have version information
[06:35] <Zugwrack> HappyFool: Ok I figured it would know which architecture and kernel version was available on the system and update accordingly...
[06:36] <Jemt> Greetings. I have some issues with Firefox. First of all I want the newest version - but it does not contain an installer. Second I don't know how to install mplayer support in firefox 1.5. Can anyone help me?
[06:36] <Mabus06> How do I take pictures with my webcam? anybody?
[06:36] <Vagabond> hi
[06:36] <wuming> during the install, it stucks at "Retriving libss10.9.7... 6%" when install base, I tried both normal install and expert install
[06:36] <xxenon> Mabus06 - gqcam
[06:36] <JensBru> WhyvasLT: operation not permitted
[06:36] <JensBru> need to sudo i guess
[06:36] <Seveas> Corin_777, get the hint.
[06:36] <WhyvasLT> indeed
[06:37] <Mabus06> thank you, xxenon... I have been here for many hours asking that question again and again
[06:37] <Amaranth> ?
[06:37] <Zugwrack> Greets out to nalioth:
[06:37] <Seveas> Amaranth,
[06:37] <wuming> how can I use ubuntu install cd do a network install? i think my install cd is bad
[06:37] <nalioth> Zugwrack: howdy
[06:38] <Amaranth> wuming: you can't
[06:38] <Vagabond> i just installed ubuntu yesterday and am having trouble getting sound to work, any suggestions? drivers or anything of that sort? i've always been a windows user so this is almost all french to me!
[06:38] <wuming> Amaranth:why? debian works that way, right?
[06:38] <Zugwrack> nalioth: This morning I got up and had to reboot breezy PPC and when I did it failed and said it couldn't find the drivers directory for video card....wierd...is there a resue boot from cd?
[06:38] <Seveas> no wuming you need the debian netinstall images
[06:38] <nemlah> Hey how do i reload a module?
[06:39] <Amaranth> wuming: no, they have seperate cds too
[06:39] <nemlah> modprobe does reloading?
[06:39] <paulproteus|lapt> nemlah: rmmod first, then modprobe
[06:39] <Amaranth> Zugwrack: you can boot from a live cd and chroot into your local install
[06:39] <wuming> Amaranth:since my install cd is no good,, what can i do then?
[06:39] <Zugwrack> I think you have to unload and reload the drver
[06:39] <Amaranth> wuming: reburn it, i guess
[06:39] <mauwolff> guys, a last one. how do you usualy install mplayer? compiling or use package?
[06:40] <Seveas> mauwolff, package
[06:40] <wuming> i see
[06:40] <Zugwrack> Amaranth: So after boot at the prompt do chroot? Will it prompt for password?
[06:40] <Mabus06> xxenon, it gives me error "/dev/video: No such file or directory
[06:40] <Mabus06> "
[06:40] <xxenon> Mabus06 - your webcam is not properly installed, then
[06:40] <Mabus06> xxenon, but I installed the drivers google told me to
[06:41] <wuming> but after reboot, I cannot boot into windows anymore
[06:41] <wuming> some grub problem
[06:41] <Amaranth> Zugwrack: boot completely into the live cd, then chroot from a terminal
[06:41] <Mabus06> and when I plug it in, the webcam modules start as some howto said it should if the drivers are working well, xxenon
[06:41] <nemlah> I tried sudo modprobe tuner type=38 but it failed
[06:41] <nemlah> unknown parameter type?
[06:41] <Zugwrack> Vagabond: First thing make sure the volume levels are turned up on the volume...secondly you can try turning up the volume on your external speakers and see if you can see if you hear any sound at all...my PPC version is slight on volume until adjusting the external speaker volume
[06:43] <Zugwrack> Amaranth: I understand. Not sure what the process is for doing this? Issue chroot as a command from the prompt? Do I need to specify a path?
[06:43] <JensBru> sudo iwconfig eth1 mode auto .. didn't change anything :(
[06:43] <Amaranth> Zugwrack: I'm a little fuzzy on the details myself, google or man chroot would probably help.
[06:43] <Mabus06> can anyone help me with my webcam troubles? I installed the driver but /dev/video still doesn't work
[06:43] <Zugwrack> K..I am at work right now...will check it out after I get home...thanks
[06:45] <hey_all> Seveas, sorry to bother you, but my friend Corin wants me to ask you why he was banned, and if there is anything he can to do redeem himself. I think it was you he said to ask....
[06:45] <Fast> whooooohoooo!!! i'm installing ubuntu on a vaio laptop with 1920x1260 resolution - this is going to be SICK!!!
[06:45] <bill2>  hi, looking for help, just installed mozilla suite, getting error messages, need to install personal security manager, cant find it anywhere? any body know where i can download it?
[06:45] <Davey> Fast, cool - I just bought a Samsung 19" LCD :)
[06:45] <JensBru> eth1: NOT READY! ESSID:off/any ... anyone ideas?
[06:45] <Davey> now I just need to get a box to put my ubuntu HDD in :(
[06:45] <Mabus06> can anyone help me with my webcam troubles? I installed the driver but /dev/video still doesn't work
[06:46] <Fast> is apt in ubuntu as up to date as debian?? or use the same repositaries?
[06:46] <rosen> argh .. I accidently removed my wastebasket from the dekstop :O ... how can I get it back ? :|
[06:47] <Seveas> !trashdesktop
[06:47] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, Seveas
[06:47] <jfletcher> is there a linux program to make basic songs?
[06:47] <Mabus06> rosen, click 'add to panel' on any panel to add links to the trash among other things
[06:47] <aris> Fast, it uses different repositories
[06:47] <Seveas> !listvals trash
[06:47] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'trash' by value (2 shown): desktop-icons ;; desktoptrash.
[06:47] <Fast> is it as recent as gentoo?
[06:47] <Seveas> !tell rosen about desktoptrash
[06:47] <rosen> aaaah lovely !
[06:47] <Mabus06> rosen, just right click on a blank panel spot and click 'add to panel'
[06:47] <bill2>  hi, looking for help, just installed mozilla suite, getting error messages, need to install personal security manager, cant find it anywhere? any body know where i can download it?
[06:47] <rosen> thanks !
[06:47] <Fast> i'm using gentoo on my servers and LOVE it but don't have the time to install it on laptop... need to work ;-)
[06:47] <rosen> was getting worried there :P
[06:48] <nalioth> bill2: apt-get install mozilla-psm
[06:48] <Mabus06> can anyone help me with my webcam troubles? I installed the driver but /dev/video still doesn't work
[06:48] <bill2> thanks
[06:48] <aris> Fast, nonsense
[06:48] <bill2> nalioth
[06:48] <aris> Fast, what's "as recent as" ?
[06:48] <aris> Mabus06, which driver/webcam
[06:48] <Fast> well... the time between a package being release and masked as stable in the pms
[06:49] <Fast> gentoo is pretty quick... i am a bit of a nut and love getting the most recent packages hot off the press
[06:49] <aris> Fast, well, ubuntu as some packages stable for years that are still masked into gentoo
[06:49] <JensBru> anyone can help me with my wireless problem please? it probably little problem
[06:49] <aris> Fast, and you like unstable desktop i guess
[06:49] <nalioth> JensBru: if you ask a real question
[06:49] <JensBru> because i see the network 3Com by 'lspci'
[06:49] <Mabus06> aris, it is a webcam that uses the spca5xx driver, and I followed the howto on the forum
[06:49] <FarrisG> How do I configure my system to create /dev/sd* nodes for my pci-raid card drives before creating them for my usb drives at bootup?
[06:49] <aris> Mabus06, ok I can help you
[06:49] <antgel> does gnome in ubuntu have a tasty ui for handling ipsec/openswan tunnels?
[06:49] <dpupp> anyone know an alternative to TVtime? i want to make sure its not just TVtime not displaying my missing channels.
[06:49] <Fast> aris, never had a major problem with stability
[06:50] <Fast> if i did i'll just roll back to the previous version again
[06:50] <JensBru> nalioth: i execute 'iwconfig'. i get eth1: NOT READY! ESSID:off/any.  Using 'lspci', i see the 3com correctly
[06:50] <Fast> the chance of this causing data losss is pretty slim
[06:50] <JensBru> Why isn't it ready to use?
[06:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell JensBru about wireless
[06:50] <nalioth> JensBru: see your PM
[06:50] <JensBru> yeah, i see. thank you nalioth
[06:51] <Fast> for example, is firefox 1.5 availalbe now on ubuntu?
[06:51] <Fast> in apt..
[06:51] <Fast> and php 5.1?
[06:51] <erUSUL> Fast, no
[06:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Fast about firefox15
[06:52] <mihkel> Hey
[06:52] <mihkel> I have lot of questions here
[06:52] <mihkel> is anybody listening me>?
[06:52] <mihkel> is anybody her
[06:52] <mihkel> e
[06:52] <mihkel> ???
[06:53] <nalioth> mihkel: please be civil.
[06:53] <nalioth> mihkel: just ask your question
[06:53] <mauwolff> mihkel: ask and they will answer. cool guys here
[06:53] <JensBru> nalioth: i've detected using the link the type of network model .. it should work "out of the box"
[06:53] <mihkel> Ok, I just ceted my ubuntu linux, then i istalled it
[06:53] <mihkel> Well i downloaded in interent RTCW ET
[06:54] <mihkel> and i dont know how to install it
[06:54] <nalioth> JensBru: then you should be able to click on the network icon in the top left and configure it. it may just need to be activated
[06:54] <mauwolff> mihkel: what is  RTCW ET?
[06:54] <mihkel> Return to Castel Wolfestein Enemy Territory
[06:54] <erUSUL> mauwolff, enemy territory
[06:54] <mihkel> It is a game
[06:54] <mauwolff> ops, sorry
[06:56] <mihkel> ? well
[06:57] <mauwolff> mihkel: no games in my comp, sorry
[06:57] <mihkel> I dont think so that no body knows the answer :D
[06:57] <arrik> question:  i installed NetworkManager to manage my wifi connections, using the synaptic package manager, but i don't know where it was installed to.  any ideas on how to run it?
[06:57] <mihkel> It doesnt mather
[06:57] <mihkel> file ise
[06:57] <LabThug> What is the trick to get Breezy to install on a SATA drive?
[06:57] <mihkel> .run
[06:57] <mihkel> how can i installit
[06:57] <zoyd> r
[06:58] <LabThug> When I go with the defaults, Breezy hangs on the disk partitioning
[06:58] <nemlah> Tvtuner on ubuntu experience anyone?
[06:58] <teroedni> mihkel:Is it a windows game<--in that case you need to install wine;)
[06:59] <jdier> anyone running xfce on ubuntu?
[06:59] <mihkel> No, ET is for Linux too and i downloaded it for linux
[06:59] <lancer285> has anyone tried installing the 8174 Nvidia official drivers in ubuntu+
[06:59] <mihkel> And it is filename.run
[06:59] <nalioth> jdier: just ask your question, please
[06:59] <teroedni> sh in front
[07:00] <mauwolff> jdier: i do...
[07:00] <LabThug> Can ubuntu be installed on a SATA drive?
[07:00] <teroedni> yup
[07:00] <nalioth> LabThug: sure thing.
[07:00] <aris> LabThug, yep
[07:00] <LabThug> what's the trick?
[07:00] <Davey> since Breezy teroedni ?
[07:00] <mihkel> How can i install filename.run program?
[07:00] <jdier> I am running xfce on ubuntu and I have two problems.  First, I have lost my desktop.  I have my panel and all, but the background has gone brown and I do not have my right click menu.  this is not a nautilus thing, as I have already killed nautilus.
[07:00] <Davey> my boss couldn't get his SATA box to boot Ubuntu
[07:00] <JensBru> nalioth: what's the tool that needs to be launched?
[07:01] <teroedni> davey
[07:01] <jdier> second problem is that I get a message the the panel is allready running every time the machine comes upl
[07:01] <teroedni> some chipset work
[07:01] <teroedni> others not
[07:01] <Davey> teroedni, aaah!
[07:01] <mihkel> How can i install game on linux?
[07:01] <teroedni> nvidia is a good bet;)
[07:01] <JensBru> i see a network tools program; but that isn't it i guess ...
[07:01] <lancer285> mihkel, just do ./filename.run
[07:01] <nalioth> JensBru: in a terminal, type "sudo network-config" or hit alt-f2 and type 'gksudo network-config" in the field
[07:02] <Fast> mihkel, check out cedega
[07:02] <mauwolff> jdier: are you saying that you've lost your gnome wallpaper and rightclick when using xfce? well, that's how it supposed to be
[07:02] <Davey> I've found Nvidia and ATI to be about equal quality on Ubuntu... untill you try to run Dual Monitors - then Nvidia is the clear winner
[07:02] <jdier> No, I have lost my xfce wallpaper
[07:02] <jdier> and my right click xfce menu is gong
[07:02] <jdier> gone
[07:02] <teroedni> yea David aggree there
[07:02] <teroedni> :D bforce 3 is good:D
[07:03] <mauwolff> jdier: strange... what about remove, update and reinstall it?
[07:03] <mihkel> lancer
[07:03] <jdier> mauwolff -> all of xfce?
[07:03] <mihkel> pleas say it easier
[07:04] <mauwolff> well, i'm a novice here, but that what i'll do... any other suggestion, anyone?
[07:04] <teroedni> mihkel ./gamename;)
[07:04] <mauwolff> jdier: well, i'm a novice here, but that what i'll do... any other suggestion, anyone?
[07:04] <teroedni> all you need is the ./ in front
[07:04] <mihkel> in tipe ./filename.run to command
[07:05] <mihkel> ?
[07:05] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mihkel about cli
[07:05] <teroedni> yup
[07:05] <mihkel> cli?
[07:05] <LabThug> How do you get Breezy to install on a Dell GX280 with an SATA drive?
[07:05] <teroedni> the thing your in now;)
[07:05] <lancer285> mihkel, did that work? you may need to do sudo chmod 777 filename.run first
[07:06] <sethk> LabThug, the main trick is that the hard drives are sda/b rather than hda/b
[07:06] <sethk> LabThug, what are you seeing?
[07:06] <guest__> zhjnhzj
[07:06] <guest__> zhjnhzj
[07:06] <guest__> zhjnhzj
[07:06] <guest__> zhjnhzj
[07:06] <mihkel> Lancer, in one forum they sayed same
[07:06] <guest__> zhjnhzj
[07:06] <guest__> zhjnhzj
[07:06] <arrik> question:  i installed NetworkManager to manage my wifi connections, using the synaptic package manager, but i don't know where it was installed to.  any ideas on how to run it?
[07:06] <guest__> zhjnhzj
[07:06] <guest__> zhjnhzj
[07:06] <guest__> zhjnhzj
[07:06] <mihkel> how do i to it
[07:06] <LabThug> sethk, it hangs when going into the partitioning mode
[07:06] <sethk> LabThug, are you in expert mode or default mode?
[07:07] <teroedni> mihkel type sudo chmod 775 gamename
[07:07] <LabThug> I tried default first, and expert as well, both hang at the same point
[07:07] <sethk> LabThug, on one dell (which wasn't exactly the same model as yours) I had to stop the SATA module from loading during install
[07:07] <mihkel> Do i have to to it all in comm?
[07:07] <Seveas> I guess it's that time of the year again
[07:07] <LabThug> sethk, tell me more :-D
[07:07] <Seveas> It's raining morons
[07:07] <Vincent> I would like to create two partitions on the same usb key, is it possible to have it correctly automounted under ubuntu ?
[07:07] <sethk> LabThug, it then used hda/b etc.  then I had to boot a rescue cd, edit fstab, and change hda to sda, hdb to sdb, etc.
[07:07] <sethk> LabThug, then it ran fine
[07:08] <LabThug> so you got it to partiton fine?
[07:08] <sethk> LabThug, let me check which sata that thing uses.  hold on a moment
[07:08] <ruggy> howdy peoples
[07:08] <sethk> LabThug, yes, once I figured this part out (which took a long time, as you might imagine) everything went smoothly
[07:08] <mauwolff> anyone has sucessfully instaled zd1211 wireless dongle in master mode?  :)
[07:09] <jdier> I jumped to the debian server and was told to run #xfdesktop
[07:09] <jdier>    This brought back my desk top and my menu system
[07:09] <LabThug> sethk, cool.  thanks for the info
[07:09] <mihkel> Lancer
[07:09] <mauwolff> jdier: much better solution  :)
[07:09] <sethk> LabThug, this one is using the Intel ICH6M sata 9aka 82801fbm)
[07:10] <mihkel> please say what i have to tip in comand...
[07:10] <mauwolff> jdier: i'll record that
[07:10] <sethk> LabThug, another solution is to partition first with another distro, then install ubuntu and tell it to use the existing partitions
[07:10] <Vincent> I reask : I would like to create two partitions on the same usb key, is it possible to have it correctly automounted under ubuntu ?
[07:10] <sethk> LabThug, but this doesn't always work in this situation, because you still need to list the partitions and tell it which ones to use
[07:10] <LabThug> hmmm, might try that
[07:10] <Seveas> Vincent, yes
[07:10] <teroedni> minkhel
[07:10] <sethk> LabThug, and that still might fail.  But it did work for me once.
[07:10] <Seveas> the automounter will mount both
[07:10] <teroedni> sudo chmod 775 gamenam
[07:10] <teroedni>  ./gamenam
[07:10] <LabThug> ok, I'll try your suggestions.  Thanks!
[07:11] <_nano_> where are the icons for applications usually located? (applications installed through apt-get)
[07:11] <sethk> LabThug, you can gather info by using the distro cd to boot into a shell and running the hardware detection program on the command line.
[07:11] <Vincent> Seveas: I have created two logical partitions on my usb key: a fat32 and an ext2. But even if in /dev i can see both, when I automount it df only give me the FAT32
[07:11] <mihkel> ./et-linux-2.60.x86.run
[07:11] <TokenBad> can anyone please help me with maybe why foomatic is giving me this error when try to install the driver that it don't exist or I don't have permissions to install it..even though going through cups to install it
[07:11] <sethk> LabThug, that shows you udev designations for the hard drives, which map to hda/sda/whatever, but the mapping is a bit arcane
[07:11] <teroedni> yea
[07:12] <Seveas> Vincent, that's weird, any clues from dmesg?    For several situations you must run the browser as root.
[07:13] <teroedni> chmod first
[07:13] <seth_k> Seveas, I know :P
[07:13] <aris> nope Seveas
[07:13] <mihkel> yes ter
[07:14] <aris> sometimes you need it
[07:14] <Vincent> Seveas: yes dmesg gives me something: http://pastebin.com/463977
[07:14] <Seveas> sethk, give me ONE
[07:14] <sethk> Seveas, if you can't manage it with firefox there are other browsers, although I've never had a problem doing it.
[07:14] <Seveas> there is NO sucj situation
[07:14] <sethk> Seveas, I just did, if you were paying attention.
[07:14] <aris> because of some hypothetical rule that say you should never log on as root
[07:14] <wuming> is there anyway to convert ubuntu install cd to DVD, I only have dvd-r here
[07:14] <sethk> Seveas, but anyone who would say there is No such situation simply has no clue about the universe of possible situations
[07:14] <Seveas> sethk, you did not
[07:14] <Seveas> sethk, bullshit
[07:14] <sethk> aris, there is no such rule
[07:14] <nalioth> wuming: it will burn to a dvd-r, it'll just waste the extra spce
[07:14] <mc__> hello,what is the root password in ubuntu in the default install?
[07:14] <sethk> Seveas, no facts, no arguments, so language.  very bright
[07:15] <Seveas> !tell mc__ about root
[07:15] <sethk> mc__, it is unset in the normal install, set by the user in expert install
[07:15] <Seveas> sethk, browsers display things downloaded from the web
[07:15] <sethk> Seveas, really?
[07:15] <Seveas> for doing that you don't need root privileges
[07:15] <mihkel> Wll teroedni???
[07:15] <wuming> nalioth:so it is ok to burn the cd iso to dvd-rw then?
[07:15] <aris> Seveas, compromising your user account or root it equivalent
[07:15] <sethk> Seveas, browsers do many many other things as well.  check them out.
[07:15] <teroedni> you did both?
[07:15] <mc__> no root?!? what a shit ,ill install  sarge again..
[07:15] <Seveas> sethk, then you use them wrong
[07:16] <dr_willis> mc__,  may want to check the faq.. its trivial to set.
[07:16] <sethk> Seveas, ah, the voice of ignorance.  read for example the cups documentation.
[07:16] <Vincent> Seveas: do you have a clue ?
[07:16] <mc__> yeah ill do so
[07:16] <dr_willis> mc__,  IF you really need it - its best to read  the FAQ and learn to use 'sudo'
[07:16] <Seveas> sethk, cups webadmin does not need the browser to run as root
[07:16] <sethk> Seveas, I never said it did
[07:16] <Seveas> read the docs
[07:16] <mihkel> i dondt know how to do it
[07:16] <mc__> i know sudo...
[07:16] <mc__> im not new to linux
[07:16] <nalioth> wuming: it will work fine, just waste the extra space on the dvd-r
[07:16] <Seveas> mc__, then use sudo to set a root password...
[07:16] <mihkel> how i do chmod
[07:16] <lucis> Hey all, can someone tell me how to restore my xorfg.conf file?
[07:16] <dr_willis> mc__,  use sudo and the first users pass - to get root-stuff done.  :P you are not going to convince anyone of anything.
[07:18] <sethk> mc__, it's a defensible choice, and easy to change, so why get upset about it?
[07:18] <freddy> if I keep acting like i have acted for the last 45 mins, will you not block me?  (i am being honest with you....  a brownie point for that? :D)
[07:19] <lucis> I edited my xorg.conf file and rendered X unstartable. Any ideas on how to restore it?
[07:19] <mc__> why dont ask it during install?
[07:19] <RickLaptop> as I understand it, in ubuntu, you can't log in to the GDE as root.  I'm trying to move my wordpress folder from my home folder to my /var/www/ folder.  It won't let me to it as it says I don't have permissions.  How do I accomplish this then?
[07:19] <teroedni> type:sudo chmod 775 name of the run filr
[07:19] <Seveas> bann evasion is soooooooo lame
[07:19] <xandeurus> I would like to know, with which aplication I can transport the photos of my cell phone to linux
[07:19] <mihkel> i am on ubuntuservers
[07:19] <Seveas> xandeurus, depends on the phone
[07:19] <sethk> mc__, it does indeed ask for it in expert install.  So do expert install.
[07:19] <mihkel> ubuntuforums*
[07:20] <xandeurus> Seveas, I have a LG vx6000
[07:20] <sethk> mc__, or set it after install.  it takes all of 20 seconds to do it.
[07:20] <zionn> are there any hot keys to switch betwen gnome desktops?
[07:20] <mwe> does someone know how to change the system font size for wine?
[07:20] <Seveas> xandeurus, then check the lg website :)
[07:20] <mc__> yeah   ill go now,thank ya for help
[07:20] <mwe> it's tiny
[07:20] <Seveas> zionn, you can view/set them in system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[07:21] <zionn> thanx
[07:21] <xandeurus> Seveas, ajaja, hey men but you dont know, any program with I can send the photos of the cell to the system?
[07:21] <levander> How come even though I haven't done an 'apt-get update' since the last time I did an 'apt-get upgrade', when I do another 'apt-get upgrade' now, it says it's going to upgrade packages?
[07:21] <Seveas> xandeurus, no, otherwise I would have told you :)
[07:21] <nalioth> opme
[07:21] <Seveas> levander, cron does it for you :)
[07:21] <xandeurus> Seveas, ok men, thanks
[07:21] <RickLaptop> anyone?
[07:21] <levander> Seveas: oh, this i did not know, thanks
[07:22] <plume> hello
[07:22] <HappyFool> RickLaptop: use sudo
[07:22] <jeppe> hi.all....how i know if someone has hack my computer?
[07:22] <Seveas> jeppe, I just did, nice pictures you have
[07:23] <jeppe> ok...what pics?
[07:23] <Amaranth> jeppe: if you haven't installed any servers they can't
[07:23] <Seveas> jeppe, just kidding, listen to Amaranth :)
[07:23] <spb> wrong
[07:23] <jeppe> ok...
[07:23] <RickLaptop> HappyFool.  I guess it's because I'm still a linux newbie so I was trying to drag and drop it from one file manager folder to the other one.  So I need to learn to use the CLI for this then is what you are saying
[07:23] <Amaranth> spb: What ports are open by default in ubuntu?
[07:23] <Amaranth> spb: (hint: the answer is none)
[07:23] <spb> Amaranth: the question isn't what ports you have open
[07:23] <Seveas> sigh
[07:23] <HappyFool> RickLaptop: you can run the file browser (nautilus) as root
[07:24] <spb> the question is what applications you run that exchange data with another computer
[07:24] <Amaranth> spb: They do it over...ports.
[07:24] <HappyFool> RickLaptop: Applications -> system tools -> run as different user
[07:24] <plume> (irc newbie) - I just installed Edubuntu (amd64), it went smooth but vmlinuz/initrd are also amd64 and my thin clients are i386. where can i find the i386 ones ?
[07:24] <spb> Amaranth: your 'open ports' relate to incoming connections
[07:24] <RickLaptop> oh.  didn't know about that... is nautilus installed with a default breezy install?
[07:24] <spb> outgoing connections aren't covered by that
[07:24] <spb> a web browser is just as easy to exploit as a web server
[07:24] <HappyFool> RickLaptop: yeah, it's the thing you're using to drag and drop files usually
[07:25] <RickLaptop> or is nautilus what i"m actually using..oh ok
[07:25] <spb> it just requires a slightly different attack vector
[07:25] <RickLaptop> cool
[07:25] <RickLaptop> ty
[07:25] <Amaranth> spb: That's not the same thing. To get access to your computer they still have to install something that opens a port.
[07:25] <amm60omy> can someone help me, im having a problem installing Ubuntu
[07:25] <spb> Amaranth: no they don't
[07:25] <HappyFool> amm60omy: please be more specific
[07:25] <Seveas> !tell amm60omy about anyone
[07:25] <Amaranth> spb: Err, then they need to know exactly what files they want so you will send
[07:26] <spb> Amaranth: hijack web browser, have it spawn a process that connects to a remote server and listens on that connection for commands
[07:26] <spb> easily done with netcat and a few pipes, for example
[07:26] <amm60omy> haapyfool: when im installing the installation freezes at the grub installation
[07:26] <spb> firewalling is an important part of having a secure system, but it's only one part
[07:26] <Seveas> spb, sure, give me a real example of that actually working...
[07:27] <Amaranth> spb: Luckily we're so obscure you won't get random attacks like that.
[07:27] <amm60omy> Happyfool: I am trying to dual bool Windows XP pro, and Ubuntu
[07:27] <Fast> is gnome 2.12.2 available yet?
[07:27] <spb> Seveas: it's been well documented in several places
[07:27] <Amaranth> Fast: it won't be
[07:27] <spb> i can dig up links if you really want, but it'll take a while
[07:27] <Fast> why not?
[07:27] <Amaranth> Fast: any security fixes in 2.12.2 will be backported
[07:27] <TokenBad> what is the force quit command?
[07:27] <Seveas> spb, i'd appreciate it
[07:28] <Fast> ok
[07:28] <Amaranth> Fast: because 5.10 is stable
[07:28] <Seveas> TokenBad, reboot ;)
[07:28] <Amaranth> Fast: meaning doesn't change
[07:28] <Seveas> TokenBad, kill -9
[07:28] <TokenBad> I did killall
[07:28] <TokenBad> but there was another command
[07:28] <TokenBad> where could click on the program
[07:28] <Seveas> pkill -9
[07:28] <Seveas> kill -9
[07:28] <Seveas> xkill
[07:28] <TokenBad> thats it
[07:28] <TokenBad> thanks Seveas
[07:29] <Seveas> gnome has a panel applet for it :)
[07:29] <HappyFool> amm60omy: i'm not sure i can help much --- sounds problematic
[07:29] <HappyFool> amm60omy: the standard advice is to check if your CD is ok
[07:29] <amm60omy> Can anyone help me with this, when im installing the installation freezes at the grub installation.  I am trying to dual bool Windows XP pro, and Ubuntu
[07:30] <amm60omy> Happyfool: I just installed it on my brothers computer fine
[07:31] <HappyFool> amm60omy: so the CD is probably fine. sorry i can't help more
[07:31] <amm60omy> HappyFool: Thanks anyways
[07:31] <amm60omy> Can anyone else help me out??
[07:32] <sethk> amm60omy, in cases like that, I complete the installation skipping the boot loader, and install grub manually
[07:32] <spb> Seveas: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=397660&rl=1
[07:32] <amm60omy> sethk: how do i do that?
[07:32] <spb> Seveas: page 7 is probably the bit you want, but the whole thing is kinda interesting reading
[07:32] <sethk> amm60omy, the install let's you skip the boot loader, so that part's easy
[07:33] <sethk> amm60omy, then you have to boot a rescue cd (or floppy)
[07:33] <spb> and yes, i know the example there is a windows network, but the attack methods will work just as well on *nix
[07:33] <zool2005> can openoffice 2 be installed via apt-get yet?
[07:33] <amm60omy> sethk: when do i get the chance to skip the boot loader?
[07:33] <sethk> amm60omy, installing grub manually is very easy, especially if you can copy (recursively) the /boot directory from another ubuntu install (same version and architecture)
[07:33] <Seveas> spb, thanks
[07:33] <sethk> amm60omy, in expert install it is right on the main menu.  Not sure on the default install, but I think it is just a prompt.
[07:34] <albacker> guys how do i see my kernel version.. i cante remember.. :(
[07:34] <jordo23> What is the gnome click/key stroke to kill an app?
[07:34] <nalioth> albacker: uname -a
[07:34] <spb> Seveas: sorry, page 6 rather
[07:34] <nalioth> jordo23: alt-f2 > xkill
[07:34] <XiCillin> xkill
[07:34] <albacker> nalioth, thanks
[07:34] <amm60omy> sethk: ok cool, ill look for it, thank you
[07:35] <Seveas> spb, p6 is all windows based stuff which does not apply to Ubuntu
[07:35] <spb> Seveas: it does
[07:36] <spb> Seveas: the specific tools and exploits will be different, but the concepts are the same
[07:36] <jordo23> alt +f2 is run app...
[07:36] <levander> Is there a way to do an 'ls' on a deb repository I have in my sources.list?
[07:36] <_jason> jordo23, and then you run 'xkill'
[07:36] <jordo23> will that kill everything?
[07:36] <Seveas> spb, too vague
[07:37] <spb> the point is that you can easily go from a code execution bug on a system to which you don't have direct access to get a full shell whenever you want it
[07:37] <_jason> jordo23, that turns your mouse into a one shot killer, you click on a window and it dies
[07:37] <junpei> ha?
[07:37] <Seveas> spb, THAT is true, but rather irrelevant in this case
[07:37] <spb> Seveas: they got a simple vulnerability on the sql server, to which there was on external access
[07:37] <spb> (ie no open ports)
[07:37] <levander> I have the plf repository for ubuntu in my sources.list, but can't retrieve the "hot-babe" package.
[07:37] <Millenniumgroup> anyone using a newsreader called "ninan"... or does anyone know a way to check if im running java at all on my system?
[07:37] <amm60omy> sethk: one last thing, does it matter if im installing Ubuntu on a hd with my Windows xp partition
[07:37] <jordo23> I am trying to kill the calendar app that runs under the clock...
[07:37] <spb> they then used netcat and a few pipes to dial out and get a full command shell
[07:37] <nalioth> levander: hot-babe is available elsewhere
[07:37] <mwe> does anyone know how to change the default font size in wine? it's tiny.
[07:37] <spb> which is exactly what you were saying couldn't be done
[07:38] <sethk> amm60omy, of course that has to be reflected in the grub configuration file, but other than that, no.
[07:38] <nalioth> levander: plf is not good to have in your sources.list for every day usage
[07:38] <levander> nalioth: are you saying it's not available from plf?
[07:38] <JensBru> nalioth: network-config isn't installed on the system
[07:38] <levander> nalioth: because there are conflicts with the main repositories?
[07:38] <nalioth> levander: i have no idea what is in plf, it's not good to use it
[07:38] <_jason> jordo23, yes? just click click on it
[07:38] <JensBru> I got network-admin though
[07:38] <sethk> spb, that's true in theory.  It would be interesting to know whether it is logistically credible.
[07:38] <amm60omy> sethk: ok thank you
[07:38] <levander> nalioth: you're speaking from experience, or you've just heard this, what's the source you're basing it on?
[07:38] <spb> sethk: read the article. it's easily doable
[07:39] <jordo23> _jason: thanks...worked....was lagging for some reason..
[07:39] <nalioth> JensBru: sorry, it's "sudo network-admin"
[07:39] <Seveas> spb, but this uses an sql injection vulnerability
[07:39] <PupenoL> what virtualization/emulation do you recommend to run Debian inside Kubuntu ?
[07:39] <spb> Seveas: so?
[07:39] <Seveas> that's quite specific
[07:39] <levander> nalioth: I know some people hate the w32codecs package, is that part of you're reason for not liking plf?
[07:39] <amm60omy> sethk: could i install someother boot loader??
[07:39] <sethk> spb, I know the article.  I don't off hand see how that translates into a viable attack.
[07:39] <spb> Seveas: the particular vulnerability you use to achieve code execution on the target box is irrelevant
[07:39] <sethk> amm60omy, yes
[07:39] <Seveas> how would you translate this to getting root accecc in ubuntu via Evolution witha  bug?
[07:39] <nalioth> levander: i'm speaking from my years of experience helping in #ubuntu. non official repo usage causes trouble
[07:39] <TokenBad> can anyone please help me with maybe why foomatic is giving me this error when try to install the driver that it don't exist or I don't have permissions to install it..even though going through cups to install it
[07:39] <spb> Seveas: code execution bug in evolution, yes?
[07:39] <runevi> How do I install opera under breezy? :)
[07:39] <jeppe> enyone know ...when i could get apt-get / synaptic... New firefox 1.5???
[07:39] <albacker> omg, i have gnome and installed amarok [a kde music player] , i closed the program and i still hear the music playing.. i do killall amarok and it doesnt stop :S
[07:39] <vehbi> hi
[07:40] <vehbi> guys
[07:40] <vehbi> i started to use ubuntu
[07:40] <_jason> albacker, lol is it a good song at least?
[07:40] <Seveas> spb, sure, assume you can execute anything you want
[07:40] <JensBru> nalioth: i receive Gtk-WARNING: cannot open display ..im working in console now tho
[07:40] <HappyFool> albacker: that a music cd ?
[07:40] <Seveas> spb, btw, let's move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:40] <corresponder> ole
[07:40] <levander> nalioth: so, the main reason you don't like it is because it's not official?  not based on any specific knowledge of plf itself?  I'm afraid of non-official repositories too, but plf looks small...  i'll probably remove it from sources.list after i install the two packages i want from it
[07:40] <McJerry> does anyone know how to get the microsoft mce remote to work?
[07:41] <albacker> _jason, yeah school of rock, it rox :D
[07:41] <nalioth> JensBru: that is fine, it should open (or you can alt-f2 > gksudo network-admin)
[07:41] <TokenBad> Seveas, I tried to install the default recommended driver for my epson stylus color 740 printer
[07:41] <sethk> levander, if you understand the risks, back up your repository state and go for it.
[07:41] <_jason> albacker, are you sure the name of the process is amarok?  did it actually kill something when you did that?
[07:41] <albacker> i solved it, i was doing killall amarok, and in the ps list there was amarokpp, it seems that amarok is just a link to amarokapp !
[07:41] <TokenBad> and get an error msg about the file is either missing or I don't have permission to access it...any ideas?
[07:41] <nalioth> levander: in our experience, non official repos do not take into consideration ubuntu packaging guidelines and usually end up borking a system
[07:41] <levander> sethk: well, actually i'm wondering if nalioth isn't right, i already can't find the hot-babe package they claim on their web page to have in there
[07:42] <albacker> _jason, that was it :)
[07:42] <HappyFool> ello JDahl :)
[07:42] <jeppe>  enyone know ...when i could get apt-get / synaptic... New firefox 1.5??
[07:42] <hawk`> hm
[07:42] <jeppe> im noob..
[07:42] <levander> nalioth: you know of a good source for hot-babe, sounds like a neat little piece of software, be fun to try it
[07:42] <sethk> levander, I tend towards the conservative and, personally, I'd prefer to install from source rather than use an unofficial repository
[07:42] <jeppe> :D
[07:42] <JDahl> HappyFool: Hi  - long time no see!
[07:42] <nalioth> levander: you can compile it quickly
[07:42] <sethk> levander, of course if you back up you can revert, but why risk your package database state, even if the risk is small?
[07:43] <levander> sethk: nalioth: yeah, i'll just compile, thanks guys
[07:43] <albacker> eni@madgeek:~$ firefox -v
[07:43] <albacker> Mozilla Firefox 1.0.7, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2005 mozilla.org
[07:43] <purplefeltangel> is there any way to do special characters with the keyboard and not the character map? (like alt+whatever in windows)
[07:43] <hawk`> can anyone tell me what to do when I for some reason was removed from the sudoers list, root is disabled and I can't seem to login with the root account at the recovery mode either?
[07:43] <albacker> :S
[07:44] <Thom_> hi guys
[07:44] <corresponder> hi guy
[07:44] <Thom_> Nickserv Identify picard
[07:44] <Thom_> :P
[07:44] <Thom_> lol
[07:44] <McJerry> hawk' boot to cd and chroot in
[07:44] <levander> hawk`: you probably borked something, think you gotta boot with livecd and mount your root partition, and edit /etc/passwd off the root partition
[07:44] <albacker> hawk`, youre screwed up :P
[07:44] <hawk`> :)
[07:44] <albacker> hawk`, you cant even su to your root account ?
[07:44] <Thom_> whew
[07:45] <hawk`> albacker no
[07:45] <Thom_> can someone please help me?
[07:45] <hawk`> but i'll try the livecd
[07:45] <nalioth> Thom_: yes, change your nickserv pass
[07:45] <albacker> >nickserv< ghost Thom_ picard
[07:45] <albacker> :)
[07:45] <_jason> hawk`, I think you can use the recovery mode too, but the liveecd method definitely works
[07:45] <levander> hawk, make sure the /etc/passwd you edit is the one on the root partition of the system you boot, don't modify the /etc/passwd from the livecd
[07:45] <albacker> * Thom_ has quit (Nick collision from services.)
[07:45] <albacker> -NickServ- [Thom_]  has been killed
[07:45] <Thom_> hello?
[07:46] <hawk`> levander :)
[07:46] <evilbulgarian> hi, i keep getting "zone foo.com/IN: refresh: failure trying master XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX#53: timed out" i also get a time out when i do dig @nsprimary testdomina.com but when i do dig +tcp @nsprimary testdomina.com it works, nmap reports port 53 udp as open|filtered can someone please help me trace this problem ISP says that its not blocking any ports?
[07:46] <albacker> omg, it was true, i thought he was joking..
[07:46] <albacker> albacker >nickserv< ghost Thom_ picard
[07:46] <levander> _jason: just use whatever you have downloaded
[07:46] <Thom_> whats wrong?
[07:46] <nalioth> Thom_: if you accidentally pasted your real nickserv pass in here, you need to change it quickly
[07:46] <hawk`> _jason yea, but i have enabled the root, then disabled it with passwd -l root like the ubuntuguide.org says, and it doesnt accept a blank password at the recovery console
[07:46] <Thom_> how change?
[07:46] <albacker> Thom_, i ghosted you..
[07:46] <Thom_> please tell me how to change :p
[07:46] <_jason> hawk`, oh ok
[07:47] <albacker> try changind your password to something else, learn to type the slash / and dont pick such passwords like picard ! :D
[07:47] <nalioth> hawk`: first rule: ubuntuguide will break your box
[07:47] <purplefeltangel> is there any way to do special characters with the keyboard and not the character map? (like alt+whatever in windows)
[07:47] <albacker> Thom_,  /msg help nickserv or nickserv help
[07:47] <nalioth> Thom_: /msg nickserv help
[07:47] <hawk`> nalioth, i'll remember that
[07:48] <Thom_> ok :P
[07:48] <_jason> Thom_, type those commands in the server window so that if you mess up no one sees your password.  And pick a better password.
[07:48] <JazzCrazed> hi all
[07:48] <_native_> how can i capture a video thats thru realplayer
[07:48] <_native_> ?
[07:48] <Thom_> i changed it already
[07:48] <hawk`> and i'll also make a backup sudo user when this is fixed :P
[07:48] <_native_> ;p
[07:48] <HappyFool> first rule of ubuntuguide: don't talk about ubuntuguide
[07:48] <Thom_> why cant i use picard?
[07:48] <JazzCrazed> how do i chmod a folder and all of its files and subfolders?
[07:48] <Thom_> lol
[07:48] <Thom_> someone of you using daper?
[07:48] <corresponder> chmod -R
[07:48] <JazzCrazed> thx corresponder
[07:49] <Thom_> does someone use daper?
[07:49] <McJerry> Thom_ yes, using dapper here
[07:49] <corresponder> nope
[07:49] <_native_> how can i capture and record video in X?
[07:49] <McJerry> hawk' did you get in?
[07:49] <hawk`> and err, what do I edit in the passwd file?
[07:49] <Thom_> McJerry, do you also have the problem that the Aplications menu doesnt work annymore?
[07:49] <hawk`> McJerry not yet, downloading a livecd
[07:49] <hawk`> :)
[07:49] <albacker> Thom_, try this :       /msg nickserv help set reset
[07:49] <_native_> nevermind
[07:49] <Thom_> albacker, i changed it already ;)
[07:50] <wuming> why ubuntu is so popular? :)
[07:50] <albacker> Thom_, try this :       /msg nickserv help set password
[07:50] <McJerry> Thom_ have had a few applications on the applications menu go bonkers....exactly what is your problem?
[07:50] <markrian> I tried to create an SSH remote location with the "Connect to Server..." menu item in the places menu in Ubuntu 5.10, but when I try to connect to the location I get an error:
[07:50] <albacker> Thom_,  ok :) good for you
[07:50] <Thom_> albacker, i changed it already :P
[07:50] <markrian> Can't display location<EMAIL_ADDRESS>There is no default action associated with this location.
[07:50] <Thom_> thankz
[07:50] <zhx> hello
[07:50] <albacker> wuming, because its the best out there.
[07:51] <Seveas> markrian, ssh:// instead of sftp://
[07:51] <Thom_> McJerry.. it opens.. and then  it closes to one tinysquare
[07:51] <VincentMX> hi
[07:51] <McJerry> markrian, try running the menu item as root and see if it works, if so, is privilege issue
[07:51] <zhx> was curious if there was a specific edubuntu channel
[07:51] <Seveas> zhx, #edubuntu
[07:51] <zhx> of course
[07:51] <Seveas> :)
[07:51] <Thom_> McJerry, i ran and upgrade like 3 days ago and since then it doesnt work annymore
[07:51] <markrian> Seveas: Okay, but why does the menu item not generate the correct url?!
[07:51] <zhx> thanks
[07:52] <markrian> McJerry: why should that matter?
[07:52] <Seveas> markrian, sftp:// not working is a bug being solved as we speak
[07:52] <McJerry> Thom_ I had issues with applications crashing if multiple instances were launched from the application menu, but i reloaded my breezy image then did apt-get dist-upgrade and those problems went away
[07:52] <markrian> Seveas: was it broken recently? Because I've used that location before with no problems
[07:52] <albacker> markrian,  try www.srcf.ucam.org/~markrian    it should work on some servers
[07:52] <Seveas> markrian, you use Dapper/
[07:52] <Seveas> ?
[07:52] <surfdue> hello, how do i run a .bin file?
[07:53] <markrian> Seveas: 5.10, breeezy
[07:53] <corresponder> ./
[07:53] <corresponder> @surfdue:
[07:53] <Thom_> hmhmhmhm...
[07:53] <corresponder> ./go.bin
[07:53] <Seveas> markrian, in that case a bit less recently :)
[07:53] <surfdue> k
[07:53] <McJerry> markrian, misunderstood problem. Did not read other post. sorry
[07:54] <Thom_> McJerry ur problem doesnt exaclty match mine..
[07:54] <markrian> Seveas: so what might the problem be in my case?
[07:55] <Thom_> well its like they said isnt it :P
[07:55] <McJerry> Thom_ last night upgraded more applications and expect 2.6.15-9 to be in synaptec in a few days...or so was told by Ben Collins....it should fix several bugs
[07:55] <l4t> HELLO . I AM TRYING TO INSTALL SKYPE IJUST GOT UBUNTU YESTERDAY . I HAE THE FILE I WASNT TO INSTALL . IN MY DOWNLOADS
[07:55] <corresponder> come down
[07:55] <VincentMX> no caps please
[07:55] <McJerry> CAPS OFF
[07:55] <sailor> please no caps
[07:55] <nalioth> l4t: turning off the CAPS will help a bit
[07:55] <kemik> l4t:  great way to get help
[07:55] <l4t> sry
[07:55] <sailor> no problem :)
[07:55] <kemik> !skypw
[07:55] <ubotu> kemik: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:55] <kemik> !skype
[07:55] <ubotu> skype is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:55] <kemik> follow the howto there l4t
[07:56] <l4t> ty verry much
[07:56] <nlindblad> how come I can't gksudo when I've activated my root-account?
[07:56] <McJerry> Thom_ did you check bugzilla to see if someone has already had same issue?
[07:56] <kemik> nlindblad:  how come you activated the root acct ?
[07:56] <Thom_> McJerry, how?
[07:56] <kemik> nlindblad:  "sudo -i" should be fine.. no need to activate root
[07:57] <nlindblad> kemik, sudo passwd
[07:57] <sailor> got a quick question... i went from the 386 to 686 kernel a month or two ago... everything seems to be working fine now, can i safely uninstall the old 386 packages?
[07:57] <alfrac> hi
[07:57] <Seveas> sailor, yes
[07:57] <nlindblad> kemik, I'm use to having a su-shell for administration
[07:57] <sailor> excellent, thanks
[07:57] <nlindblad> not using sudo command everytime
[07:57] <nlindblad> or is sudo -i like su?
[07:57] <nalioth> nlindblad: sudo -i = sudo su
[07:57] <nlindblad> nalioth, okey
[07:58] <kemik> nalioth:  isnt it sudo su -(l)
[07:58] <kemik> and sudo -s = sudo su
[07:58] <nlindblad> any chance I can deactivate it again without messing things up?
[07:58] <McJerry> Thom_ http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com and search for same issues..... if none found, file bug report....they will respond
[07:58] <kemik> sudo -i is the safe choice ...
[07:58] <nalioth> kemik: sudo su is redundant, there is some danged sudo -$ that does the same thing
[07:58] <kemik> nlindblad:  sure
[07:58] <kemik> !rot
[07:58] <ubotu> kemik: No idea
[07:58] <kemik> !root
[07:58] <ubotu> from memory, root is rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:59] <nlindblad> thanks
[07:59] <kemik> nalioth:  yes sudo su is redundant but i think it's sudo -s and you shouldnt use thatone
[07:59] <VincentMX> when i try to burn an audio cd with serpentine, it says the disc usage is only 45 minutes, on an 80 minute cd, and it also says "Disk capacaty exeeded!", what do i do now?
[07:59] <kemik> doesnt set all env. variables
[07:59] <kemik> which could, potentially, be dangerous
[07:59] <surfdue> what is breezy defualt python install
[07:59] <surfdue> 2.4?
[08:00] <surfdue> im trying to figure out either python2.4-gtk2 or python-gtk2 ?
[08:00] <surfdue> how do i tell what python i have?
[08:00] <juliux> hi someon there who can help me with my nx6110 ?
[08:01] <Thom_> McJerry, come to think about it.. i installed some KDE things for a game .. could that mess up my menu?
[08:02] <_jason> surfdue, you can search man pages like so: 'man python'  press '/' 'version'  <-- that will give you the answer.  Type: python -V
[08:02] <ooPo> Is there a nice script somewhere I can drop into /etc/init.d to run svnserve on startup?
[08:02] <RickLaptop> anyone here know of a good IRC server & channel for apache support?
[08:02] <McJerry> Thom_ do you have gnome installed as well? You could start gnome to see if problem is the same to narrow down to KDE or not
[08:02] <nlindblad> hmm
[08:02] <Thom_> i only use gnome ;)
[08:02] <hawk`> burning the livecd now
[08:02] <nlindblad> not gksudo returns: "We won't need a password, it seems!
[08:02] <nlindblad> "
[08:02] <nlindblad> after locking the root-account
[08:02] <hawk`> what do i need to change to make myself a sudoer again?
[08:03] <frustraktor> hello,my config:Xubuntu-Desktop-2.6.12-10-k7-OpenGL version string: 1.3.5272 (X4.3.0-8.16.20)
[08:03] <frustraktor> ,i dont c gl speed in glxgear(fgl_gears work fine),some1 can hlp me plz
[08:03] <sethk> hawk`, visudo
[08:03] <_jason> hawk`, pastebin your current sudoers file
[08:03] <bulio> how do I setup my speakers in ubuntu?
[08:03] <Thom_> McJerry, i use gnome.. but i installed a game.. monopoly something.. and it said it needed some things to install... so it did that automaticly... i dont know if it can mess up...
[08:03] <bulio> I'm not sure where they are connected
[08:03] <snowblink> ooPo,  man update-rc.d
[08:03] <bulio> I have them in line in
[08:03] <_jason> hawk`, never mmind, you can't lol
[08:04] <hawk`> :)
[08:04] <_jason> hawk`, I'll pastebin mine, one sec
[08:04] <mjr> frustraktor, glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[08:04] <markrian> Argh! That sftp/ssh/gnome problem I had was my fault. It's been a long day!
[08:04] <purplefeltangel> is there any way to do special characters with the keyboard and not the character map? (like alt+whatever in windows)
[08:04] <frustraktor> i know i always use gl2 to watch films and now i cant :/
[08:04] <_jason> hawk`, http://pastebin.com/464069
[08:04] <frustraktor> cuz is to sloooooowww
[08:04] <McJerry> Thom_ i would start a gnome session to see if same problem exist there. Then we will know if reinstalling kubuntu-desktop will fix your problem
[08:05] <RickLaptop> anyone know of a IRC channel for apache support?
[08:05] <hawk`> _jason, so your user is called admin?
[08:05] <_jason> hawk`, that's the admin group
[08:05] <mjr> purplefeltangel, gtk/gnome programs allow you to input ctrl-shift-hexcode
[08:05] <surfdue> k
[08:05] <hawk`> oh
[08:05] <thegladiator> hi
[08:05] <hawk`> but how do i define a user?
[08:05] <hawk`> :)
[08:05] <thegladiator> diesel, are you there ?
[08:05] <Thom_> McJerry, i am in a gnome session.. it doesnt work with gnome
[08:05] <hawk`> wonder how i broke it in the first place
[08:05] <thegladiator> how can i install sun's java ?
[08:05] <_jason> hawk`, i'd assume the same way root is defined 9read the comment) but I haven't done so myself
[08:06] <hawk`> was trying to add myself to the ftpgroup
[08:06] <RickLaptop> :)
[08:06] <purplefeltangel> mjr thx
[08:06] <thegladiator> albacker, hi :D
[08:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell thegladiator about java
[08:06] <ooPo> snowblink: ok, that seems to be the question I'd ask next after finding a script to install :)
[08:06] <hawk`> oh, true
[08:06] <frustraktor> mjr, i know i always use gl2 to watch films and now i cant :/,cuz is to slow :/
[08:06] <hawk`> :)
[08:06] <beruic> Can anybody help me on how to change the default program for filetypes?
[08:06] <ooPo> the subversion package didn't come with a startup script to begin with
[08:06] <albacker> hi thegladiator are you on ubuntu finally ?
[08:06] <_jason> hawk`, maybe you removed your user from the admin group somehow?
[08:06] <thegladiator> thats right :D
[08:06] <sintax> Can anyone help me figure out how to install an opera .deb package and if it has deps it will auto get them ?
[08:07] <albacker> thegladiator, do you like it ?
[08:07] <hawk`> hmm
[08:07] <thegladiator> i wouldnt tak to you otherwise ;)
[08:07] <hawk`> so maybe i just need to readd myself to that group then
[08:07] <thegladiator> :D
[08:07] <hawk`> what's a correct way to do that?
[08:07] <hawk`> :)
[08:07] <thegladiator> its good thanks albacker
[08:07] <hawk`> usermod -G admin username?
[08:07] <wuming> after a fresh install, firefox will take a long time to lookup urls, this does not happen in windows, how can i fix?
[08:07] <Thom_> McJerry, i just installed some KDE libs
[08:07] <beruic> sintax: U can have mouse gestures and side panel in Firefox too...
[08:07] <hawk`> thats what i did when i fucked up anyhow
[08:07] <hawk`> :)
[08:07] <frustraktor> some1 have similar problem with bad gl acceleration ?:(
[08:08] <albacker> thegladiator, now learn about the /etc/apt/sources.list and learn how to use apt, thats what youll need most.
[08:08] <sintax> firefox sucks, i dont want it
[08:08] <sintax> dont convince me to use it lol
[08:08] <beruic> Why?
[08:08] <sintax> i just wanna know how to install opera
[08:08] <_jason> hawk`, my guess is you'll need to be a super user to rejoin the group
[08:08] <RickLaptop> I copied wordpress into my /var/www/folder using Sudo root.  But now wordpress doesn't seem to work correctly.  I think I have to set folder permissions for it but i'm not sure.  Can someone help me with this?
[08:08] <thegladiator> yep than you
[08:08] <beruic> I think it's better than opera now, and I used Opera before
[08:08] <sintax> pshh just tell me how lol
[08:08] <sintax> i have the ,deb package on my desktop
[08:08] <hawk`> beruic, personal oppinions dont really matter do they?
[08:08] <thegladiator> synaptic is al inclusive albacker  ?
[08:08] <sintax> and i tried to dpkg it and it has deps
[08:09] <hawk`> :P
[08:09] <thegladiator> all*
[08:09] <thegladiator> the one you were talking about ? source.list ?
[08:09] <beruic> If they are well argued :)
[08:09] <hawk`> imo opera is way better, since it has everything you need without plugins
[08:09] <hawk`> except an addblock
[08:09] <sintax> exactly hawk`
[08:09] <sintax> now how do i install it ;)
[08:10] <frustraktor> sintax, apt-get install opera?
[08:10] <albacker> synaptic is good too, i use apt myself.. but you can use synaptic too. if you dont have it try running this as root : apt-get isntall synaptic.. and its good to know apt-get .. you might need it.
[08:10] <sethk> I see many websites that opera cannot display.  All of these that I tested recently (a few weeks ago) display properly with firefox.
[08:10] <albacker> thegladiator, ^
[08:10] <Seveas> operas css is bad
[08:10] <McJerry> Thom_ did installing KDE libs solve issue?
[08:10] <sintax> lemme try that
[08:10] <sethk> Seveas, that's a polite way to say it.  :)
[08:10] <hawk`> sethk, and your point is?
[08:11] <hawk`> its the webdesigners fault for not being able to make sites that work crossbrowser
[08:11] <sintax> E: Package opera has no installation candidate
[08:11] <sintax> bleh
[08:11] <hawk`> apt-cache search opera
[08:11] <Thom_> McJerry, never mind you aint getting the point :)
[08:11] <sintax> Package opera is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:11] <_jason> hawk`, "If the user
[08:11] <_jason>  is currently a member of a group which is not listed,  the  user
[08:11] <_jason>               will be removed from the group"
[08:11] <nlindblad> weird
[08:11] <_jason> oops
[08:11] <nlindblad> after disabling the root-account, gksudo prompts but won't do anything after the prompt
[08:11] <beruic> sethk: I have seen the same with firefox. It's always bad code...
[08:12] <sintax> hawk then what lol
[08:12] <sintax> it scrolled a ton of crap
[08:12] <beruic> Can anybody help me on how to change the default program for filetypes?
[08:12] <sintax> i have the deb package on my desktop
[08:12] <sintax> cant i just install it and let it auto get deps
[08:12] <hawk`> sintax, did you get any browser results?
[08:12] <sintax> i got uhhh, a million things
[08:12] <hawk`> it should tell you some info about every package?
[08:12] <sintax> from DEC OS8 images to PDP emulators to shells
[08:13] <czr> sintax, try apt-cache search browser | grep browser
[08:13] <hawk`> maybe you could apt-cache search opera | grep browser
[08:13] <sethk> beruic, it's hard to be precise with the zillions of web sites around.  But I found opera unable to display many many common sites.  The only such case I've seen with firefox involves deliberately using IE specific code.
[08:13] <hawk`> :D
[08:13] <hawk`> czr :)
[08:13] <McJerry> Thom_ the point is if you have the same problem in gnome and kde, then you may want to check the install log for the game you installed and find out exactly what files it replaced, then do some homework and repair the files that are causing your applications menu problems......
[08:13] <sintax> opera isnt in there
[08:13] <czr> I always wanted an option for apt-cache that would do that :-)
[08:13] <sintax> omg why cant i just use the package i have on my desktop lol
[08:13] <czr> seems such a waste to start two processes instead of one
[08:14] <czr> hmm. maybe there is an option for that
[08:14] <sintax> grep isnt liking this output
[08:14] <beruic> sethk: I agree on the IE and would like to see an example on the Opera issue...
[08:14] <Seveas> czr, man apt-cache
[08:14] <frustraktor> some1 have similar problem with bad "gl" acceleration ?:(
[08:14] <rosen> When I try to download files from a windowsuser on my network the transfer stops at 100%, is that a known issue or is it just me having this problem ?
[08:14] <Seveas> there's an option to only look in name | short_desc
[08:14] <czr> looking at hawk` is easier seveas :-)
[08:15] <sintax> ok off topic now
[08:15] <sintax> :-(
[08:15] <Thom_> McJerry, the point is like i told 5 times I DONT USE KDE..  Like iTunes or something
[08:15] <Seveas> czr apt-cache search -n
[08:15] <sintax> opera_8.51-20051114.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb
[08:15] <sintax> i cant install that?
[08:15] <runevi> So, how do I get a java-plugin in firefox?  I really need it to see Magnus Carlsen crushing Malakhov i lighting chess in the world chess cup
[08:15] <czr> thanks Seveas :-), didn't really expect that :-)
[08:16] <Seveas> sintax, sudo dpkg -i opera-blabla.deb
[08:16] <sintax> i did that but let me try again
[08:16] <nlindblad> now I'm locked out
[08:16] <nlindblad> damn
[08:16] <runevi> .. Magnus Carlsen, 15 yeaqr old chess wonder, the yougnest ever in the world to get through the qualification rounds in the world championship.  Younger than Kasparov, younger than fisher.
[08:16] <sintax> opera depends on xlib6g (>= 3.3.6) | xlibs; however:
[08:16] <sintax>   Package xlib6g is not installed.
[08:16] <sintax>   Package xlibs is not installed.
[08:16] <runevi> Gimme that plugin!  So it sounded like you were in KDE, sorry
[08:17] <purplefeltangel> \o/
[08:17] <hawk`> whats the default livecd root password?
[08:17] <beruic> Can anybody help me on how to change the default program for filetypes?
[08:17] <Seveas> nlindblad, recovery mode
[08:17] <Seveas> hawk`, there is no root pw
[08:17] <nlindblad> Seveas, according to the wiki I did nothing wrong
[08:18] <thegladiator> diesel, are u there ?
[08:18] <Seveas> nlindblad, I don't know what you did :)
[08:18] <sintax> trying the static qt package now
[08:18] <nlindblad> Seveas, I disabled my enabled root-account
[08:18] <purplefeltangel> /o\
[08:18] <thegladiator> i try to give sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common
[08:18] <nlindblad> Seveas, it says it's perfectly sane
[08:18] <thegladiator> but i get an error
[08:18] <Seveas> nlindblad, that is indeed sane
[08:18] <runevi> rosen: Doesn't work.
[08:18] <Seveas> what is the error?
[08:18] <_jason> thegladiator, what error
[08:18] <hawk`> Seveas, so how would i su from a livecd?
[08:18] <rosen> but can't anyone tell me what could cause my downloads (from lan network) to halt at 100%
[08:18] <erUSUL> beruic, right click the file an open properties
[08:18] <Seveas> hawk`, same as on the installed system: sudo -i
[08:18] <Seveas> !tell hawk` about sudo
[08:18] <hawk`> oh
[08:18] <beruic> thx
[08:18] <thegladiator> couldnt find java-pacakge
[08:18] <runevi> !tell runevi about java
[08:18] <nlindblad> Seveas, su won't work (logical, it shouldn't), but gksudo and sudo returns nothing when called
[08:18] <_jason> !info java-package
[08:19] <Seveas> thegladiator, enable multiverse
[08:19] <nlindblad> I'll try gksudo -d
[08:19] <rosen> runevi, I did it yesterday and it worked .. but probably better to use Seveas' url then
[08:19] <erUSUL> rosenwith wget, ff, ...
[08:19] <ubotu> java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.26 (breezy), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[08:19] <thegladiator> how do i enable multiverse ?
[08:19] <Seveas> nlindblad, are you in sudoers?
[08:19] <thegladiator> what is multiverse ?
[08:19] <Seveas> !tell thegladiator about repos
[08:19] <nlindblad> Seveas, it's the primary account
[08:19] <sintax> sdfsdafsdfsdf
[08:19] <Seveas> nlindblad, expert/server install?
[08:19] <nlindblad> Seveas, standard
[08:20] <runevi> Package j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:20] <runevi> Package j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:20] <rosen> I got only tonight to download my backups from our fileserver ... can't anyone tell me what could cause my downloads to halt when they are at 100% ? :/
[08:20] <runevi> Sorry about the duplicate
[08:20] <Seveas> nlindblad, odd, try recovery mode and look at /etc/sudoers
[08:20] <runevi> ANyone got a clue why?
[08:20] <runevi> :)
[08:20] <Seveas> runedude_, enable multiverse
[08:20] <Seveas> runevi*
[08:20] <runevi> Seveas: it's enabled.
[08:20] <Seveas> runevi, then apt-get update :)
[08:20] <nlindblad> Seveas, I enabled the root-account and then disabled it since it broke the GUI-administration-applications
[08:20] <runevi> Seveas: done.
[08:20] <Seveas> !+info j2re1.4
[08:20] <ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait.
[08:20] <ubotu> j2re1.4: (Blackdown Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition), section multiverse/devel, is optional. Version: <IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 21982 kB, Installed size: 58892 kB
[08:20] <runevi> Seveas: didn't work
[08:20] <Seveas> runevi, are you on hoary?
[08:20] <runevi> Seveas: breezy
[08:21] <Seveas> nlindblad, odd, that should not break
[08:21] <runevi> Seveas: i've got the following in my sources.list:
[08:21] <runevi> deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[08:21] <Seveas> duh, that's just backports
[08:21] <VictorI> is there any recursive flag to remove gnome?
[08:21] <_jason> runevi, that's for backports
[08:21] <Seveas> you did not enable multiverse
[08:21] <VictorI> gnome and all its dependancies
[08:21] <runevi> oh ..
[08:21] <pipeline> VictorI: Apt doesn't do reverse dependencies.
[08:21] <nlindblad> Seveas, hmm, I'll reboot and see if it's a broken setting or I need to revocer
[08:21] <nlindblad> br
[08:21] <VictorI> I just realized I installed ubuntu and not kubuntu..
[08:21] <nlindblad> *brb
[08:21] <pipeline> VictorI: You could remove something fundamental, e.g. glib
[08:21] <HappyFool> VictorI: something like deborphan might help
[08:21] <runevi> .. Exactly what do I need to put into sources.list?  I'm not very good with guis.
[08:21] <pipeline> VictorI: Nearly everything under the damn sun is going to depend on libglib-2.0
[08:21] <runevi> :)
[08:21] <runevi> and the faq's just described gui ways to do it.
[08:21] <czr> dpkg -l | grep gnome, check the packages and remove them maybe
[08:22] <Seveas> VictorI, so? Both are essentially the same, just a different set of default packages
[08:22] <_jason> runevi, every line you see with universe that doesn't have multiverse, put multiverse
[08:22] <pipeline> runevi: the sources.list man page is pretty simple
[08:22] <HappyFool> !tell runevi about sources
[08:22] <czr> VictorI, you might also try deborphan
[08:22] <VictorI> glib fine, but I don't need any gnome libs
[08:22] <hawk`> hmm
[08:22] <pipeline> VictorI: All of the gnome libraries depend on glib.
[08:22] <VictorI> I am going totry that. thank you
[08:22] <runevi> _jason: Thanks!
[08:22] <sethk> runevi, if you edit the file the format is straightforward.  Just ape it
[08:22] <Seveas> VictorI, to remove gnome: use debfoster to prune ubuntu-desktop after installing kubuntu-desktop
[08:22] <McJerry> VictorI apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop && apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:22] <Seveas> McJerry, that won't remove gnome...
[08:22] <VictorI> McJerry: that will just remove the top level package
[08:23] <VictorI> so debfoster and deborphan.. got it
[08:23] <runevi> Ah, java on its way in
[08:23] <Vincent> I want to use firestarter, my connection is active, but it tells me that eth0 device is not ready
[08:23] <Vincent> what should I do ?
[08:23] <runevi> Thanks _jason !! :)
[08:23] <_jason> runevi, np
[08:23] <hawk`> uh, do i have to mount my local drives manually using a livecd?
[08:23] <VictorI> also during the install cd process, it never asked me for a root password
[08:23] <VictorI> is there a default root password??
[08:23] <Seveas> hawk`, system -> admin -> disks
[08:23] <erUSUL> hawk`, yes
[08:23] <Knowerrors> Hey all, anybody here use mencoder?
[08:23] <Seveas> !tell VictorI about root
[08:23] <pipeline> VictorI: By default, ubuntu disables the root accoutn.
[08:24] <erUSUL> !tell VictorI about root
[08:24] <pipeline> Knowerrors: If you can't read the man page, you have no business using mencoder.
[08:24] <Seveas> pipeline, not true, just the password, not the account
[08:24] <pipeline> Seveas: No password = disabled account.
[08:24] <McJerry> VictorI default password is random at install
[08:24] <pipeline> Seveas: You cannot log into the account.
[08:24] <hawk`> Seveas, for some reason kde doesnt start on the livecd
[08:24] <hawk`> :P
[08:24] <Knowerrors> pipeline: thats a lame ass response
[08:24] <Seveas> pipeline, not true
[08:24] <czr> runevi, the gui is the mainback of ubuntu? :-)
[08:24] <Seveas> disabled account means /bin/false as shell
[08:24] <VictorI> so how would you then modify the system if ubuntu disables root by default?
[08:24] <VictorI> go into single user and set it?
[08:24] <Seveas> VictorI, Ubuntu does not disable root
[08:24] <MickMcMack> sudo
[08:24] <runevi> czr: Ubuntu is _Great_, but it would be uncool to have a fork just because of people wanting things explained in a different way.
[08:24] <czr> victori, use sudo
[08:24] <Seveas> use sudo
[08:24] <erUSUL> McJerry, what??
[08:25] <czr> victori, sudo -i or sudo program
[08:25] <Seveas> VictorI, read the link ubotu gave you
[08:25] <McJerry> VictorI either use sudo or sudo passwd root and change root password
[08:25] <pipeline> Seveas: That's the opposite, actually.
[08:25] <oxez> hey how would I display images sizes drectly in nautilus? wihtout clicking anything I'd like sizes of images to be displayed below images
[08:25] <nlindblad> Seveas, seems like I was removed from sudoers
[08:25] <runevi> czr: Or for people like me to shun ubuntu because it being to fscking difficult.  But faq's just explaining the gui way is _irritating_
[08:25] <thegladiator> _jason, i am doing it via synaptic > enabling multiverse , is that the way to do it ?
[08:25] <Seveas> nlindblad, then add yourself (or the admin group) again
[08:25] <_jason> thegladiator, sure, you can do it that way
[08:25] <pipeline> Seveas: It allows logins, leaving the account with credentials in various system services, and simply prevents you from logging into a shell.
[08:25] <czr> runevi, the problem in explaining the other way is that it has already been explained in other resources
[08:25] <hawk`> gah
[08:25] <pipeline> Seveas: "Locking" an account changes the password to an impossible value.
[08:25] <hawk`> how do i mount if i can not create a mountpoint?
[08:25] <nlindblad> Seveas, using the recovery-feature, got it
[08:25] <psusi> I've been reading the gnome documentation on nautilus and it mentions several URIs you should be able to view, including start-here:/// and system-settings:/// only they don't work in ubuntu... what gives?
[08:25] <erUSUL> oxez, write a plugin that does that. i do not know of one
[08:25] <runevi> czr: Sure, but an ubuntu/debian newbie doesn't know where to look.
[08:26] <czr> runevi, although I think you can fix the wiki things if you really are that much annoyed by that :-)
[08:26] <Thom_> MacJerry, the workaround worked.. thanks for ur help
[08:26] <Seveas> pipeline, gdm will not log you in, nor wil any sane service
[08:26] <czr> runevi, google?
[08:26] <Seveas> pipeline, and locking password only means you cannot login directly but can use sude
[08:26] <czr> runevi, maybe newbies should stick to guis while they get their bearings
[08:26] <Seveas> sudo*
[08:26] <Seveas> or su
[08:26] <runevi> czr: google gives hundreds of hits, and only a very few that makes sense, is relevant to breezy, and so forth.
[08:26] <pipeline> Seveas: You can use su with a shell set to /bin/false.
[08:26] <Thom_> MacJerry, probably thats why they call it a workaround ;) :P
[08:26] <runevi> czr: I've been using linux for 9 years, just not debian/ubuntu ;D
[08:26] <czr> runevi, well, I agree with you. but as someone who writes technical documentation for living, it's a lot of work, duplicated work at that
[08:27] <czr> runevi, so that might be the main reason for it to be missing
[08:27] <Seveas> pipeline, not true
[08:27] <Thom_> McJerry, the work around worked thanks for ur help
[08:27] <runevi> czr: That's an understandable explanation.:)
[08:27] <Thom_> McJerry, thats why its a "work" around.. becouse it works :P
[08:27] <Seveas> pipeline, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5757
[08:27] <czr> runevi, but yes, I agree with you. would be nice that all entries would have both ways. first the GUI and then the text. you are free to contribute ;-)
[08:27] <runevi> czr: I just hope I won't annoy the hell out of people for asking here while I get familiar with ubuntu instead of Redhat&/SuSE.
[08:28] <czr> runevi, people here don't get annoyed that easily
[08:28] <runevi> czr: if you copy-edit me, certainly
[08:28] <Seveas> runevi, this channel is meant for questions :)
[08:28] <runevi> czr: But I'm not a native speaker.
[08:28] <czr> runevi, if you pay me, certainly :-). neither am I
[08:28] <pipeline> Seveas: Fool.
[08:28] <pipeline> Seveas: Read the documentation for su.
[08:28] <thegladiator> _jason, still i am getting the same error . i checked main restricted universe multiverse multiverse...from synaptic seettings...and then went back to terminal and gave sudo command
[08:28] <runevi> czr: Pay you for helping me contribute *cough* ;D
[08:28] <Jemt> Greetings. How can I specify Firefox as the default browser for Ubuntu? I have removed the out-dated firefox and downloaded the new Firefox 1.5 - but it does not contain an installer
[08:28] <surfdue> is tehre ati drivers?
[08:29] <Seveas> !tell pipeline about coc
[08:29] <psusi> one should use sudo not su...
[08:29] <erUSUL> !ati
[08:29] <ubotu> ati is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[08:29] <_jason> thegladiator, pastebin your sources.list please
[08:29] <czr> runevi, you might ask someone else for that :-) I wasn't one that wanted the text documentation ;-)
[08:29] <sethk> czr, hey, I get annnoyed __real__ easy.  :)
[08:29] <runevi> czr: ;D
[08:29] <pipeline> Seveas: I call a spade a spade.  Read the info page.  What do you think the -s option is for?
[08:29] <Seveas> but ok, you got me
[08:29] <czr> sethk, well, I was talking about people ;-)
[08:29] <_jason> thegladiator, /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:29] <pipeline> Seveas: Changing the shell to /bin/false doesn't twiddle any magical bits in the kernel, and does not disable the account.  It simply makes it impossible to log in via the login program.
[08:29] <runevi> sethk: I'll help you set up parks with 18 frontend webservers and 60+ backend webservers, and you'll help me with ubuntu .. deal? ;D
[08:29] <nalioth> pipeline: let us be civil.
[08:30] <Seveas> pipeline, passwd -l neither locks anything
[08:30] <Seveas> you can do as much as with a shell set to /bin/false
[08:30] <McJerry> erUSUL after you login with the user account created at install, you can 'sudo passwd root' to change the root password then access the root account if needed.
[08:30] <czr> runevi, with ip-failovers for applications running in php and using mysql?
[08:30] <zandaa> can anyone help me solve a problem concerning USB device mounting?
[08:30] <pipeline> Seveas: On the contrary.  It is no longer possible to log into /any/ service by locking the account.  "su" becomes the /only/ method to use the account.
[08:30] <runevi> czr: sure.
[08:30] <thegladiator> which is the paste bin please?
[08:30] <thegladiator> !info paste
[08:30] <czr> runevi, how do you do failover?
[08:30] <runevi> czr: I think we (my company) does that.
[08:30] <zandaa> !pastebin
[08:30] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:30] <runevi> czr: cisco automatically failovers with sorryserver.
[08:30] <Seveas> as is setting the shell to /bin/false...
[08:30] <pipeline> Seveas: Well, unless you have an extremely unusual PAM config.
[08:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell thegladiator about paste
[08:31] <thegladiator> thanks
[08:31] <sethk> runevi, actually, I'll gladly trade your 18 servers for what I'm doing at the moment.
[08:31] <runevi> sethk: You won'
[08:31] <czr> runevi, yeah, but that assumes all physical servers have equal access to data storage. so one would need to replicate data across servers for this to work. hence my question :-)
[08:31] <hawk`> ok i'm in, what should i do to fix this mess?
[08:31] <runevi> sethk: You won't get the servers, but i'll help you with simiiar setups ;D
[08:31] <Jemt> Is it possible to change the default browser in Gnome using the Configuration Editor ?
[08:31] <McJerry> Thom_ I have had to do a few workarounds to get Dapper to work correctly whereas Breezy was working.
[08:31] <sethk> runevi, I'm porting the O/S to a new platform and chasing an IRQ Problem in the network hardware.
[08:31] <runevi> czr: ah.  Netapps works as a charm as NFS-servers.
[08:31] <_jason> Jemt, system -> prefs -> default apps
[08:31] <hajiki> does anyone know what happened to the evolution option to do a reply inline instead of quoted?
[08:32] <nalioth> Jemt: system > prefs > preferred apps
[08:32] <czr> runevi, keeping mysql databases over NFS sounds a bit finicky ;-)
[08:32] <runevi> czr: I use NetApps as NFS-servers for both the frontends and the backends at the same time.
[08:32] <thegladiator> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5758
[08:32] <_jason> Jemt, yeah, what nalioth said
[08:32] <Thom_> McJerry, lol its my first :O but created it myself so pretty proud
[08:32] <hawk`> how would i enable the root account again?
[08:32] <runevi> czr: You don't need the mysql over NFS.
[08:32] <sethk> hawk`, you wouldn't.  It isn't disabled
[08:32] <runevi> czr: Just the apache frontends with php .
[08:32] <czr> runevi, so how do you failover mysql then?
[08:32] <nalioth> hawk`: not a good idea, but if you must
[08:32] <sethk> hawk`, you probably mean how do you set a password for the root account.
[08:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell hawk` about root
[08:32] <thegladiator> i went to synaptic settings and followed the instructions given in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:32] <runevi> czr: You mainly use replica-servers.  The problem is writes, as those can only be done to the master.
[08:32] <sethk> is ubotu missing?
[08:32] <nalioth> hawk`: you can do anything you like using sudo
[08:32] <czr> runevi, sure, that shouldn't be the big problem. I'm thinking of having frontends without hard disks
[08:33] <pipeline> Seveas: The important semantic difference between a locked account and an account with a /bin/false shell is that you don't have to be superuser to su to an account with a false shell.
[08:33] <Jemt> _jason & nalioth > I don't have a 'prefs' folder under 'System'
[08:33] <hawk`> yea, nalioth, that's what i did
[08:33] <runevi> czr: But what one usually does is directing writes to the master, and reads to the slaves.
[08:33] <hawk`> thats why im in this mess
[08:33] <czr> runevi, indeed. and writes go into one server and that dies and then what :-)
[08:33] <_jason> thegladiator, you didn't enable multiverse, add " multiverse" to the end of lines 20,21,36, and 37
[08:33] <Knowerrors> Anyway, I do read man pages, but someone had told me mencoder had a gui interface... is there another video recoding/editing program (not kino) with a gui for linux?
[08:33] <hawk`> i'd just prefer to keep the root account available in case i mess up again
[08:33] <I[o] nic> Hey guys.
[08:33] <runevi> czr: Then you have a slave that have a complete replica -- which you then enable writes on. ;)
[08:33] <nalioth> Jemt: watch me. go to system > preferences > preferred applications
[08:33] <VictorI> ah I got the perfect thing
[08:33] <McJerry> Thom_ good luck, don't know that I helped, was just trying to get in the general area of the problem
[08:33] <czr> runevi, hmm. is the replication realtime and atomic wrt transactions?
[08:33] <runevi> czr: There are cluster solutions for mysql, but those are more expensive.
[08:34] <Jemt> nalioth: Oh, thought it was in my Configuration Editor :)
[08:34] <t_acko> I just installed ubuntu hooked up to a dell 2405 lcd and once it loads I get "cannot display mode" from the monitor
[08:34] <czr> runevi, yeah, steeleye and such
[08:34] <VictorI> dpkg -l | grep -i gnome | awk '{ print $2 }'      ... thank god for awk
[08:34] <runevi> czr: You use the log-files of one servers, and replicate them to the slaves.
[08:34] <czr> runevi, just was interested to hear what you do :-)
[08:34] <ubuntuman> hi does anybody know why i only have 1 /dev/dsp  ???
[08:34] <t_acko> how can I get to the command line to change res?
[08:34] <runevi> czr: They're "atomic" as long as your logs aren't truncated.
[08:34] <runevi> well
[08:34] <runevi> that was bullshit
[08:34] <sethk> ubuntulog, because you have only one sound card?
[08:34] <Jemt> nalioth: Thanks alot ! :)
[08:34] <runevi> czr: They're "atomic" as there are only _reads_ on the slaves, not writes.
[08:34] <jdier> I recently had to dump my .config and .cache folders to fluxh out some xfce problems I could not fix on my own.  I have a custom desk top menu (the menu that appears when you right click on an empty spot on the desk top, and I cannot remember where I told xfce to use that menu instead of the one in /etc/xdg/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml   Does anyone know where to set this?
[08:34] <Thom_> McJerry, you helped with the bugzilla it helped to Get an idea how to fix it ;)
[08:34] <runevi> czr: Just replication.
[08:34] <Seveas> pipeline, as normal user I can't use su -s to su to dentest (which has a normal password)
[08:34] <hawk`> uh
[08:34] <czr> runevi, ok, that sounds much better :-)
[08:34] <Seveas> dennis@mirage ~ $ su -s /bin/bash dentest
[08:34] <Seveas> Password:
[08:34] <Seveas> dennis@mirage ~ $
[08:34] <ubuntuman> dont any channel on my soundcard have 1 /dev/dsp normally ?
[08:34] <thegladiator> gosh
[08:35] <thegladiator> what is the root password ?
[08:35] <thegladiator> how do i change it ?
[08:35] <Seveas> !tell thegladiator about root
[08:35] <Jemt> thegladiator: Same as your own pass
[08:35] <runevi> czr: Well, it was closer to the truth ;)  To tell you even more truth, i'm not a dba. ;)
[08:35] <czr> runevi, I need to think about it. it's important for me that transactions are not half-written when replicated
[08:35] <sethk> ubuntuman, depends on the hardware.  as you've discovered.
[08:35] <runevi> czr: Well, mysql have a problem there.
[08:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell t_acko about xcfg
[08:35] <thegladiator> not the same as my pass Jemt
[08:35] <czr> runevi, that's ok, I have also issues, I like writing assembler :-)
[08:35] <Howdy125> sudo passwd root
[08:35] <runevi> czr: We have to do playback of logfiles on various servers several times a week -- but we've got at least 50.. maybe a 100 mysql servers.
[08:35] <thegladiator> i tried it out by typing the same passeord
[08:35] <psusi> Jemt: no, root has NO password by default
[08:35] <nalioth> runevi: let us watch our language please
[08:36] <sethk> czr, mysql doesn't properly implement transactions or replication.
[08:36] <albacker> thegladiator, you set your root password during the installation
[08:36] <nalioth> Howdy125: please advise !root and let users choose for themselves
[08:36] <t_acko> nalioth: thanks you. can you tell me how to get to a command line then?
[08:36] <runevi> maino82: .. what did i write?
[08:36] <Howdy125> nalioth,  .. he asked
[08:36] <sethk> Jemt, no password doesn't mean blank password.  It means password never set.
[08:36] <nalioth> t_acko: applications > accessories > terminal
[08:36] <czr> sethk, well, transactions the way that mysql implemented them with external engines was ok
[08:36] <psusi> mysql supports transactions and replications
[08:36] <t_acko> well I have no video right now
[08:36] <czr> sethk, just the replication is a bit of a problem (wrt transactions especially)
[08:36] <runevi> nalioth: .. that was for you.  what language was wrong?
[08:36] <t_acko> which is my prohlem
[08:36] <t_acko> problem
[08:36] <nalioth> Howdy125: most users in here who ask are unfamiliar with ubuntu's 'sudo' model, and think they need a root account. they do not.
[08:37] <t_acko> I guess I need to get into grub and chroot or something but I don't know how
[08:37] <nalioth> runevi: you mentioned bull droppings in a vulgar fashion.
[08:37] <sethk> czr, that's basically correct, although I could quibble.  But I won't unless you want to get into arcane database theory.
[08:37] <pipeline> Seveas: No, that's because you set an invalid login shell.  You could have used any value in /etc/passwd.  No magic bits -- just the "su" configuration file.
[08:37] <pipeline> Seveas: most programs do not read /etc/shells :P
[08:37] <runevi> nalioth: In a reference to what I said one line earlier, as I realized it was .. bull droppings. :)
[08:37] <czr> sethk, we could do that in private. also, I'm not sure since I'm just researching what is the current situation right now
[08:37] <pipeline> Seveas: Hell, most "su" programs don't even read it.  GNU coreutils is just a little, uh, weird.
[08:37] <Howdy125> nalioth, sometimes sudo doesn't do what su can do ..
[08:37] <hawk`> ok i just want to add my user to the admin group again, where do i do this?
[08:37] <hawk`> :P
[08:38] <ubuntuman> i use a snd-hda-intel | i have compiled the new alsa drivers | but only have 1 dsp | now i can only use 1 programm with sound | my games dont work with sound
[08:38] <sethk> czr, ok.  You might want to look at my SQL engine.  It doesn't have replication yet but it has bullet proof transaction processing and crash recover.   (cql.com)
[08:38] <nalioth> Howdy125: i beg to differ. why would the ubuntu devs support something that is lacking features?
[08:38] <czr> but I need replication sethk :-), I'll take a look though
[08:38] <zandaa> can anyone help me solve a problem concerning USB device mounting?
[08:38] <psusi> hawk`: system->administration->users and groups
[08:39] <sethk> czr, as I said, no replication yet, but eventually.
[08:39] <hawk`> psusi, can't i just edit some textfile?
[08:39] <mynameis> can some one give a little help with burning an .iso? i followed the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto?highlight=%28iso%29%7C%28burning%29 and i still cant get it to work
[08:39] <Howdy125> nalioth, you'll have to trust me on that ...
[08:39] <hawk`> the gui isnt booting from my livecd
[08:39] <hawk`> :p
[08:39] <psusi> hawk`: sure... you can edit /etc/groups if you want
[08:39] <hawk`> ah, thanks
[08:39] <Seveas> pipeline, so to sum up: when using gnu su, it does not matter :)
[08:39] <sethk> mynameis, usually you can simply right click on the iso file in a file browser and select "write"
[08:40] <Howdy125> nalioth, I didn't advise .. they asked how to ..
[08:40] <sethk> mynameis, after inserting a blank CD, of course
[08:40] <VictorI> maybe someone might want to add this to the wiki to uninstall gnome/kde stuff...   dpkg -l | grep -i gnome | awk '{print $2 }' | xargs apt-get --purge remove -y
[08:40] <kwyjibo> hello
[08:40] <Seveas> VictorI, won't work
[08:40] <kwyjibo> i have a problem with charactersets/codepages
[08:40] <mynameis> sethk, thats the thing i have a blank in there and it mounts it but when i go to wirte it askes for a blank disc
[08:40] <sethk> mynameis, if it mounts, it isn't blank
[08:40] <pipeline> Seveas: It's still an important difference.
[08:41] <kwyjibo> how do i get both ssh client and ssh server to use the same character set/codepage?
[08:41] <juliux> is daniel stone here?
[08:41] <sethk> mynameis, you can't mount a blank disk.  If you insert a blank disk, you should get a dialog asking what you want to create (data, photo, music)
[08:41] <Seveas> s/dpkg -l \| grep -i gnome | awk '{print $2}'/dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall | cut -f 1 -d ' '/
[08:41] <pipeline> Seveas: Relying on whether or not a given daemon reads /etc/shells ain't a great idea.
[08:41] <sethk> mynameis, is it a cd-rw that has been used?
[08:41] <mynameis> sethk, i get that dialog to pop upp
[08:41] <Seveas> pipeline, that's true, but on Ubuntu you can rely on it
[08:41] <ubuntuman> omg only gurus here this goes to fast for me
[08:41] <mynameis> seth it is just a cd-r
[08:41] <sethk> mynameis, ok, then the cd is not mounted.  Did you select burn data cd?
[08:41] <pipeline> Seveas: That is simply not true.
[08:41] <kwyjibo> i'll take gurus any day
[08:42] <pipeline> Seveas: e.g. samba doesn't consult your shell value
[08:42] <hawk`> hmm
[08:42] <mynameis> sethk, is i right clicked the .iso and went to burn to disc
[08:42] <hawk`> what groups would the first user of an ubuntu installation be in?
[08:42] <sethk> pipeline, there are other situations as well.  Say, the mail server assuming the user's identity to write to a mailbox file.
[08:42] <sethk> mynameis, what happens?
[08:42] <Seveas> pipeline, samba uses a completely separate account database, so locking a password won't help either
[08:42] <sethk> pipeline, we can probably think of other cases
[08:43] <ubuntuman> who can help me with my soundcard snd-hda-intel ??
[08:43] <mynameis> sethk, a new screen opens then i click "ok" and it tells me to insert a blank disc
[08:43] <_jason> hawk`, my first username is 'jason' and groups returns: jason adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[08:43] <pipeline> Seveas: Samba only uses a separate account database when configured to do so.  Crude hackery.
[08:43] <hawk`> ugh
[08:43] <sethk> mynameis, did you try leaving the disk in there and clicking as if you had put in a new one?
[08:43] <hawk`> i need to add all those manually?
[08:43] <Seveas> pipeline, which is the default
[08:43] <hawk`> seems i removed all my groups
[08:43] <psusi> Seveas: how about sshd?
[08:44] <mynameis> sethk, many time, and i have also ejected the disc and put a brand new blank one in
[08:44] <psusi> hawk`: why don't you just use the gui like I sugested first?  easiest way
[08:44] <Seveas> psusi, won't sork in both cases
[08:44] <hawk`> psusi, becuase it still doesn't work from my livecd
[08:44] <_jason> hawk`, well depends on what will be quicker... adding amnually ro reading the man page to usermod :/  I don't know or else I'd tell you :)
[08:44] <ubuntuman> mynameis read my pm to you
[08:44] <sethk> mynameis, that is odd.  Because the system clearly sees the blank (it prompts you).
[08:44] <psusi> hawk`: why are you booting from a livecd?
[08:44] <Seveas> ubuntuman, only registered users can send PMs on freenode
[08:44] <hawk`> _jason, but i'm on the livecd now, so i doubt usermod will edit the right files
[08:44] <ubuntuman> ok
[08:44] <sethk> mynameis, two ways to work around it.
[08:44] <ubuntuman> lol
[08:45] <mynameis> ubuntuman, i dont have a pm form you
[08:45] <sethk> mynameis, first, use cdrecord at the command line.  Do you know how to do that?
[08:45] <_jason> hawk`, well you can just add the admin group and then use usermod
[08:45] <benoy> hi everyone
[08:45] <pipeline> psusi, Seveas : You're right that sshd ignores /etc/shells, but it will use the shell value from /etc/passwd to spawn subshells for scp and sftp.
[08:45] <mynameis> sethk,  not realy
[08:45] <hawk`> ah, true
[08:45] <kwyjibo> anyone, please?
[08:45] <psusi> Seveas: locking the account will prevent you from logging in with sshd... I don't think setting the shell to false will
[08:45] <ubuntuman> @mynamies, install k3b go to extras burn iso to disc this should solve youre problem
[08:45] <hawk`> but i didn't see a group called admin
[08:45] <hawk`> :)
[08:45] <AIV> is there an open source equivelent to VMWare that someone might know of?
[08:45] <_jason> hawk`, make sure you don't remove yourself from admin again lol!
[08:45] <sethk> mynameis, is your cd writer hdc?
[08:45] <pipeline> psusi: Well, you can log in, but you can't do much with a /bin/false shell, if you read me.
[08:45] <hawk`> _jason, definitely
[08:45] <psusi> pipeline: by default... but as with su, you can tell sshd ot use a real shell instead of false, can't you?
[08:46] <Seveas> dennis@mirage ~ $ scp foon dentest@localhost:foon
[08:46] <Seveas> Password:
[08:46] <Seveas> lost connection
[08:46] <hawk`> :)
[08:46] <benoy> I am trying to control how my laptop reacts when I close the laptop cover.  Can I set it sleep when I close the lid?  How do I do this?
[08:46] <hawk`> that's why i want to enable root again
[08:46] <mynameis> sethk,  not sure
[08:46] <hawk`> :)
[08:46] <pipeline> Seveas, psusi: No matter what you tell ssh, it'll spawn a subshell using your /etc/passwd shell.
[08:46] <benoy> Can anyone help me?
[08:46] <Seveas> pipeline, so setting it to /bin/false is safe there :)
[08:46] <psusi> pipeline: ahhh... I see
[08:46] <surfdue> #
[08:46] <surfdue> fakeroot ./ati-driver-installer-8.19.10-i386.run
[08:46] <surfdue> #
[08:46] <surfdue> Choose "Generate distribution specific packages" and "Ubuntu" and the UBuntu version you use
[08:46] <sethk> mynameis, this is the command for hdc.  we can tweak it for others:  sudo cdrecord -vv -dev=1,0,0 iso-file-name
[08:46] <surfdue> i cant find ubuntu
[08:47] <surfdue> i cant scroll down the menu?
[08:47] <surfdue> how do i do this
[08:47] <Seveas> pipeline, several services also look only at your shell and not whether the password is locked
[08:47] <sethk> mynameis, doing   sudo cdrecord -scanbus    should show you your cd writer device
[08:47] <psusi> stop flooding the channel surfdue
[08:47] <Seveas> courier and proftpd for instance
[08:47] <pipeline> Seveas: Yes, but there are indeed use cases where it is not.  And why risk it at all when you can disable the account entirely by retaining the default PAM configuration and using passwd -l?
[08:47] <thegladiator> _jason, i am messed up it seems
[08:47] <hawk`> uh
[08:47] <surfdue> im not, i just need help
[08:47] <hawk`> is there a default id for the admin group?
[08:47] <surfdue> sorry
[08:47] <Seveas> pipeline, I just said that :)
[08:47] <hawk`> i cant seem to find it at all
[08:47] <_jason> thegladiator, elaborate
[08:47] <hawk`> :P
[08:47] <sethk> hawk`, almost always wheel
[08:47] <thegladiator> when i start the synaptic after editing ...this is the error W: Couldn't stat source package list http://in.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:47] <hawk`> wheel?
[08:47] <pipeline> Seveas: "locking" the password sets the the password to an impossible value.
[08:47] <albacker> thegladiator, good luck
[08:48] <benoy> can anyone help me with my problem?
[08:48] <thegladiator> thank you albacker
[08:48] <pipeline> Seveas: It becomes impossible to gain privileges via any kind of password auth.
[08:48] <_jason> thegladiator, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:48] <ubuntuman> @ anybody need sound gure that is willing to help me please ??
[08:48] <wildhamster> I can't do that Dave.
[08:48] <Seveas> pipeline, yes I know, but what if the server does not care (e.g. courier)
[08:48] <psusi> hawk`: boot from the hard drive in rescue mode isntead of the livecd... that will give you a root shell... then use usermod to add your user to the various groups
[08:48] <hawk`> psusi, already tried that
[08:48] <hawk`> but root is disabled
[08:48] <mynameis> sethk, i just tried that command and it gave me with with some other stuff  "No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/sg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
[08:48] <mynameis> "
[08:48] <pipeline> Seveas: Heh, at that point, UNIX isn't good enough any more and you'll have to move onto a more sophisticated security infrastructure.
[08:48] <Seveas> pipeline, btw: doesn't using ssh keys circumvent this?
[08:48] <thegladiator> !info paste
[08:49] <Seveas> (for sshd)
[08:49] <VictorI> is there grumpygroundhog-security?
[08:49] <psusi> hawk`: why is root disabled?  you disabled it?
[08:49] <hawk`> i read ubuntuguide
[08:49] <sethk> mynameis, ok, then you need a different dev=
[08:49] <Seveas> I mean, for several servers I don't even know my password, since I use keys
[08:49] <thegladiator> whats the paste again ?
[08:49] <hawk`> but i already went through this three times, its not solving my problem
[08:49] <hawk`> :P
[08:49] <Seveas> thegladiator, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[08:49] <surfdue> anyone know how i can scroll down this ati os choice?
[08:49] <psusi> Seveas: iirc, sshd checks the password file to see if the password is locked
[08:49] <pipeline> Seveas: Good question.  I'm not entirely sure.  Ssh makes rather sophisticated use of PAM.
[08:49] <hawk`> what does a default line to add a user to the admin group look like?
[08:49] <jessemans> !root
[08:49] <psusi> hawk`: so when you boot into rescue mode, what happens?
[08:49] <ubotu> I heard root is rumour has it, that root is disabled in Ubuntu, actually this means there is no password set for the root account, use sudo when you need admin access, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:49] <pipeline> Seveas: I'm not a PAM wizard -- I try to leave it alone when I can.
[08:50] <VictorI> which security repo should I use for grumpygroundhog?
[08:50] <mynameis> sethk, is there a command to see what my cdburner is ie hda, hdd?
[08:50] <hawk`> psusi, it wont work, trust me
[08:50] <pipeline> Seveas: I think that it will fail, but I don't know WHY it will fail.
[08:50] <psusi> hawk`: unless you did something weird, it will
[08:50] <sethk> mynameis, you can find that information by running device manager
[08:50] <hawk`> and i said, trust me, it wont work
[08:50] <psusi> hawk`: and if not... then add init=/bin/bash to the kernel command line and you'll boot to a root shell
[08:50] <hawk`> i dont wanna spend another hour explaining it to another person
[08:50] <sethk> mynameis, what you'll need is probably  dev=ATAPI:1,0,0
[08:51] <hawk`> but i can't sudo or anything
[08:51] <thegladiator> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5760
[08:51] <hawk`> but honestly, that is not my problem
[08:51] <sethk> mynameis, the other thing you can do is a loopback mount of the iso file, and then use the GUI CD creator thing
[08:51] <hawk`> i just want to add myself to the admin group in /etc/groups
[08:51] <ubuntuman> mynameis, use dmesg command to see all devices
[08:51] <psusi> hawk`: rescue mode has nothing to do with sudo... it doesn't start the gui but just drops you to a root shell
[08:51] <hawk`> sigh
[08:51] <hawk`> enough, please
[08:51] <pipeline> psusi: I thought rescue mode booted the system single-user?
[08:51] <thegladiator> _jason, did u mean "mutliverse" with quotes ?
[08:51] <Seveas> Dec 14 20:51:17 mirage sshd[11688] : (pam_unix) authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=mirage.kaarsemaker.net  user=dentest
[08:52] <Kyral> no without most likely
[08:52] <psusi> pipeline: yea... which prompts to you log in as root... which by default requires no password
[08:52] <Seveas> using ssh keys + locked pw + correct shell
[08:52] <surfdue> anyone please?!
[08:52] <VictorI> anyone have a sample sources.list for grumpygroundhog?
[08:52] <mynameis> ubuntuman, right now im apt-get k3b
[08:52] <hawk`> does anyone have a line from /etc/group where a user is added to the admin group?
[08:52] <hawk`> :)
[08:52] <_jason> thegladiator, run: sudo apt-get update
[08:52] <ubuntuman> ok
[08:52] <Seveas> VictorI, there is no grumpygroundhog
[08:52] <thegladiator> let me
[08:52] <sethk> mynameis, look at the file /etc/default/cdrecord
[08:52] <sethk> mynameis, it should show you the device
[08:52] <VictorI> so what is the -current branch for ubuntu then?
[08:52] <Seveas> hawk`, sudo adduser whoever_you_want admin
[08:52] <psusi> but if for some reason root has a password you can't remember, then you can allways add init=/bin/bash to the kernel command line and you'll boot to a root shell anyway
[08:52] <_jason> thegladiator, is there a reason you only have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled and nothing else like main and security?
[08:53] <Seveas> VictorI, dapper
[08:53] <Seveas> but it's not always stable
[08:53] <hawk`> Seveas, not what i was asking for
[08:53] <thegladiator> _jason, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:53] <thegladiator> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:53] <sethk> hawk`, you do, if you did a normal install
[08:53] <VictorI> thats fine.
[08:53] <VictorI> I understand
[08:53] <HappyFool> hawk`: admin:x:106:rory
[08:53] <Seveas> thegladiator, close synaptic or whatever
[08:53] <hawk`> thank you HappyFool
[08:53] <mynameis> cdrom=          0,6,0
[08:53] <thegladiator> yep
[08:53] <_jason> thegladiator, do you ahve synaptic open?
[08:53] <Seveas> grep: n/etc/group: No such file or directory
[08:53] <Seveas> lpadmin:x:107:dennis
[08:53] <Seveas> admin:x:117:dennis
[08:53] <jessemans> hawk`: i do.  the line is "adm:x:4:username"
[08:53] <thegladiator> yes
[08:53] <HappyFool> hawk`: there's also an 'adm' group
[08:53] <thegladiator> i closed it
[08:53] <_jason> thegladiator, k, try again
[08:53] <hawk`> adm is the same?
[08:53] <Seveas> jesseman_, admin, not adm
[08:53] <mynameis> sethk,  says it cdrom=          0,6,0
[08:53] <hawk`> sudoers says %admin?
[08:54] <Seveas> hawk`, no it's not
[08:54] <jessemans> hawk`: i also have the sudoers line. "sudo:x:27:username"
[08:54] <hawk`> ok
[08:54] <thegladiator> _jason, done
[08:54] <Seveas> adm = for reading logs
[08:54] <kwyjibo> is anyone going to help me? :(
[08:54] <Seveas> sudo should NOT be used as group
[08:54] <ubuntuman> can anybody tell me how to add a second /dev/dsp
[08:54] <hawk`> :D
[08:54] <Seveas> admin is for sudo
[08:54] <jessemans> Seveas: ah, i see
[08:54] <hawk`> but where are the groups defined?
[08:54] <surfdue> um the ati menu choices go off my menu