[05:56] <Kilos> morning all
[08:32] <Kilos> hi trix Gremble
[08:34] <Gremble> Hey Kilos
[08:39] <Kilos> hi Golynx_
[08:40] <Golynx_> hi Kilos
[08:41] <Golynx_> the great search begins :/
[08:41] <Kilos> search for?
[08:42] <Golynx_> a way to force install older backed up packages
[08:44] <Kilos> just trysomething
[08:44] <Kilos> type in deja-dup and see what shows
[08:44] <Kilos> oh you got no dash
[08:45] <Kilos> in terminal sudo deja-dup
[08:46] <Kilos> pity you didnt use it for the backup. it remembers installed stuff and all settings etc
[08:46] <Golynx_> you must specify a mode
[08:46] <Golynx_> hmm
[08:47] <Kilos> when making a backup with it you choose local folder and give a path
[08:47] <Golynx_> too late now lol
[08:47] <Kilos> otherwise it wants to backup inna sky
[08:47] <Kilos> im sure that would have installed everything you had installed
[08:48] <Kilos> what specific package do you want to install Golynx_ ?
[08:48] <Kilos> another idea i have
[08:49] <Kilos> do you have gdebi installed
[08:49] <Golynx_> i used gdebi to install the graphics drivers then activated it, but all the other stuff got many other files included that wont be picked up
[08:50] <Golynx_> if i use gdebi it will ask to download the rest of the package files
[08:50] <Kilos> oh you tried gdebi
[08:50] <Kilos> see what they are then install them too first with gdebi
[08:50] <Golynx_> ya only foe the graphics drivers it worked
[08:50] <Golynx_> for*
[08:51] <Kilos> it will show what dependancies are missing them you install them from archives forst with gdebi
[08:51] <Kilos> first
[08:51] <Golynx_> gdebi wont include the rest of the files when choosing a package file, it just wana download them
[08:52] <Kilos> im sure it showed somewhere what files werte needed
[08:52] <Kilos> were
[08:52] <Golynx_> ya it did show the needed files
[08:53] <charl_> good morning Golynx_, Kilos
[08:53] <Golynx_> but where to put them for gdebi to detect them
[08:53] <Kilos> then install them manually first
[08:53] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[08:53]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[08:53] <Kilos> hi charl_
[08:53] <charl_> how's it going Kilos
[08:53] <Golynx_> hi charl_
[08:53] <Kilos> install them not put them somewhere
[08:53] <Kilos> good ty charl_
[08:53] <Kilos> and you?
[08:54] <Golynx_> can you install them one at a time
[08:54] <Kilos> Golynx_, you have rsynced them to archives right?
[08:54] <Kilos> yes
[08:54] <Golynx_> yes
[08:54] <Kilos> go to archives and right click install with gdebi
[08:54] <Golynx_> ok
[08:55] <Kilos>   /var/cache/apt/archives/
[08:56] <Golynx_> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable
[08:56] <charl_> Kilos: i'm good
[08:56] <Golynx_> i used it with apache2 , its got a ton of files
[08:56] <Kilos> lol
[08:57] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[08:57] <Kilos> i installed a whole ubuntu like that once
[08:57] <Kilos> took 2 days
[08:57] <Kilos> find each dependancy and manually install
[08:59] <Kilos> Golynx_, did you run sudo apt-get update after rsyncing?
[08:59] <Golynx_> hmm its not showing the dependencies included in the archives
[08:59] <Golynx_> for rsyncing ?
[09:00] <Kilos> update looks online and in archives for what is there
[09:00] <Golynx_> oh ya i did
[09:00] <Kilos> everytime you add anything to archives you gotta update
[09:00] <Golynx_> but even before that it showed older versions of what i had backed up
[09:02] <Golynx_> gdebi is not listing all the files
[09:02] <Golynx_> it just shows a bunch of folders not created yet ai
[09:02] <Kilos> go through the dependancies one at a time skippig those it gives errors with then come back to them when all others are installed
[09:03] <Kilos> often they rely on each other for stuff
[09:04] <Kilos> did you run sudo apt-get upgrade after sudo apt-get update after installing?
[09:04] <Golynx_> can i use Synaptic to highlight the dependencies needed by the program then use that rather for finding what i need from the other version
[09:04] <Kilos> that first upgrade is important
[09:05] <Golynx_> nope
[09:05] <Kilos> there is your prob
[09:05] <Kilos> we been this road before
[09:07] <Golynx_> it will wana upgrade new stuff anyways , stuff i dont want
[09:07] <Kilos> see how much it wants to download man
[09:08] <Kilos> it will use what you have in archives and add what else is needed and give you option y/n to carry on
[09:08] <Kilos> you can make a good working ubuntu without that first upgrade
[09:08] <Kilos> cant
[09:09] <Golynx_> 422,1 MB
[09:09] <Kilos> eish
[09:09] <Kilos> are you sure you rsynced properly
[09:10] <Kilos> check /var/cache/apt/archives/ size and check the folder you synced froms size
[09:10] <Golynx_> ya i did sudo rsync -av ~/Desktop/precise/ /var/cache/apt/archives/
[09:11] <Golynx_> its 422 MB
[09:12] <Kilos> did you tell synaptic to save downloaded packages in archives
[09:12] <Kilos> otherwise they gone on reboot
[09:12] <Golynx_> no 342 MB
[09:12] <Golynx_> i didnt download any packages
[09:13] <Kilos> man the saving is for saving everything in archives
[09:13] <Kilos> it just shows as downloaded packages
[09:14] <Golynx_> ai, a few weeks of windows and i forget all i learned in ubuntu lol
[09:16] <Kilos> and come make my head hurt again
[09:16] <Kilos> whew
[09:16] <Golynx_> lol
[09:19] <Golynx_> i can still choose the stuff i dont wana upgrade, so thats fine
[09:19] <Golynx_> just installing the stuff i need is the headache now
[09:24] <Kilos> just dont choose to not upgrade important stuff like you did last time
[09:24] <Kilos> i cant go that route again
[09:24] <Golynx_> ya sure
[09:24] <Kilos> you cant run just the stuff you need successfully without the first upgrade
[09:25] <Golynx_> does apt have an offline installer thing that will add all the dependencies of the package in the same folder
[09:26] <Kilos> if it sees them in archives yes
[09:26] <Kilos> did you check your archives size and the backup folders size
[09:27] <Golynx_> apt-get always wana connect to the internet
[09:27] <Kilos> yes thats where it sees what is available and compares to what you have in archives
[09:28] <Golynx_> ya backup folder is 334 MB and archives 342 MB
[09:28] <Kilos> can a couple of weeks on windows cause this much damage or have you fallen on your head as well
[09:28] <Kilos> ok so then gdebi should be able to install things
[09:29] <Golynx_> its the cold i guess, lots of snow here lol
[09:29] <Golynx_> brain freeze :D
[09:29] <Kilos> does synaptic show the older stuff with a mark to show its upgradeable?
[09:30] <Golynx_> nope Synaptic only shows latest versions
[09:30] <Golynx_> or stuff available for download
[09:30] <Kilos> then gdebi it is for you
[09:30] <Kilos> saynaptic also looks in archives
[09:31] <Kilos> you hit the reload button i think its called
[09:31] <Kilos> thats same as apt-get update
[09:31] <Golynx_> so if i install a package and a few of its dependencies with gdebi, then it will override the synaptic version ?
[09:33] <Kilos> yes
[09:33] <Golynx_> so if a few dependencies are missing then synaptic should try to fetch them
[09:33] <Kilos> it will say a later version is available online but close that and install
[09:33] <Kilos> you can even do it all offline
[09:34] <Golynx_> i tried that with gdebi while offline but it wants to connect to the internet to get the dependencies
[09:36] <Kilos> i told you just now to then install the dependancies separately with gdebi then go back to what wanted them
[09:36] <Golynx_> what about apt-offline ?
[09:36] <Kilos> sjoe man
[09:37] <Kilos> you know more about that than me
[09:37] <Golynx_> ok
[12:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: you there?
[12:22] <Kilos> yessir that
[12:22] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, as well
[12:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://i.imgur.com/9hNpLTC.png
[12:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> life is good at -266 :-p
[12:24] <Kilos> ya thats a good catch. you selling them?
[12:24] <Kilos> hehe
[12:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[12:24] <Kilos> well see who gets the cat first
[12:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> i haven't mined them yet, looks to pretty
[12:25] <Kilos> dunno what you supposed to do with it anyway
[12:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> come see if you are bored sometime
[12:25] <Kilos> lemme come see
[12:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> go to the pyramid so long
[12:25] <Kilos> i am at the mine
[12:26] <Kilos> are you at the pyramid
[12:26] <Kilos> if you not there i cant find it
[12:26] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, ?
[12:26] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'm at the mine under my pyramid
[12:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> i'll come get you are you close to the pyramid?
[15:32] <Kilos> hmm...
[16:14] <Kilos> hi psychicist
[16:41] <Kilos> Maaz, hi
[16:41] <Maaz> Howzit Kilos
[16:41] <Kilos> ah we still online
[16:42] <Kilos> what a silent bunch on a saterday night
[16:59] <charl_> hi psychicist
[17:00] <charl_> hi Kilos
[17:18] <charl_> hi theblazehen
[17:19] <theblazehen> hi charl_
[17:25] <Kilos> hi charl_ theblazehen
[17:25] <Kilos> psychicist, not talking
[17:29] <Golynx> oh my, mu ubuntu is dead :/
[17:29] <Golynx> my*
[17:30] <Golynx> and i can never get it back again
[17:30] <charl_> hi Golynx
[17:30] <charl_> reinstall ?
[17:30] <Kilos> what did you do now?
[17:31] <Golynx> it wont detect the graphics card anymore
[17:31] <Golynx> when i try to enter it just shuts down the pc
[17:31] <Kilos> so its dead? you mean black screen
[17:31] <Golynx> only windows works
[17:32] <Kilos> ask charl_ for commands to set your resolution smaller
[17:32] <Kilos> then you ctrl+alt+f3 and then use commands
[17:32] <Golynx> it gives options to use other graphics, i choose it then it shuts down the pc
[17:33] <Kilos> oh so you see the grub menu
[17:33] <Kilos> to choose win or ubuntu
[17:33] <Golynx> ya, i can only boot into windows
[17:33] <Kilos> do you see recovery mode
[17:34] <Kilos> or boot from command line
[17:34] <Golynx> plus my lappies charger pin is extremely hot, i dont know what will happen
[17:34] <Kilos> boot to command line
[17:34] <Kilos> what did you do before you rebooted
[17:34] <Kilos> it was working
[17:35] <Golynx> no matter what i do it just shuts down  when choosing ubuntu
[17:35] <Kilos> then a reinstall is all option
[17:35] <Kilos> you can fix win with ubuntu but not vice-versa
[17:36] <Golynx> i dont know , the charger pin gets extremely hot when i'm in ubuntu too
[17:36] <Kilos> you broke something with whatever you were doing
[17:37] <Golynx> i installed all the packages from archives backup
[17:37] <Kilos> how good is the battery?
[17:37] <Kilos> charger is there to charge battery not run pc
[17:37] <Kilos> charl_, help him man
[17:38] <Golynx> i think the charging jack is broken or something and need a new one
[17:38] <charl_> i'm watching a show... ok lemme read... one sec
[17:38] <Kilos> i asked how good is the battery
[17:38] <Golynx> its at 50% not charging
[17:39] <Kilos> can you boot into win with charger unplugged
[17:39] <Golynx> yes
[17:39] <charl_> hmmm sounds bad
[17:39] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[17:39] <Kilos> ok and if you shutdown everything does it show charging?
[17:39] <charl_> you can set the resolution using xrandr but it won't help much if there is a problem with the graphics card
[17:40] <charl_> but it's very strange that you can still then boot into windows normally
[17:40] <Golynx> all the temperatures in the lappy is normal 50 degrees and the charging block is cool , only the pin of the charger is so very hot
[17:40] <charl_> never had that before myself, sounds like some very strange contact problem
[17:41] <charl_> is it only in the plug, the socket, or both ?
[17:41] <charl_> by pin i assume you mean the contact
[17:42] <Golynx> charl_ yes the pin of the charger that plugs into the jack in the lappy
[17:42] <charl_> the only suggestion i can make is that dirt somehow managed to get into the contact
[17:42] <charl_> into the jack as you call it
[17:42] <Golynx> i cant even touch there my finger still hurting
[17:42] <charl_> whow ok no then there is a major problem
[17:42] <theblazehen> Need someone good with apt here..
[17:42] <charl_> that is not normal
[17:42] <charl_> theblazehen: what are you trying to do with apt ?
[17:43] <theblazehen> rm'd /etc/{dovecot,postfix} before I unintalled them
[17:43] <theblazehen> apt-get purge gave problems, so I recreated those folders
[17:43] <theblazehen> Purge worked fine, however installing mail-stack-delivery now says it cant find my private key
[17:43] <charl_> rather try to dpkg-reconfigure intead
[17:44] <Golynx> theblazehen i think i need to solve the charger jack issue first before attempting to install ubuntu again
[17:44] <theblazehen> Golynx: yeah, ok
[17:44] <Golynx> ty guys i will look for a solution
[17:44] <charl_> sounds logical
[17:44] <charl_> best of luck !!!
[17:45] <theblazehen> charl_: nvm, fixed it
[17:45] <Golynx> charl_ ty
[17:45] <charl_> theblazehen: great :)
[17:45] <theblazehen> had to purge twince..
[17:45] <Kilos> good luck Golynx
[17:45] <Golynx> Kilos ty
[17:45] <charl_> theblazehen: bah :(
[17:46] <charl_> if first time fails simply try again
[17:46] <charl_> :D
[17:48] <theblazehen> Wow.. /me found a great dubstep artist. Them bass lines..
[17:48] <theblazehen> <3
[17:49] <charl_> don't keep it for yourself :P
[17:49] <charl_> share !
[17:51] <theblazehen> lol, its Vaski
[17:51] <theblazehen> Search on soundcloud
[17:51] <theblazehen> Listen to the Gateway mix :D
[17:54] <charl_> haha :D
[17:54] <charl_> too much dubstep for me
[17:54] <theblazehen> lol
[17:55] <charl_> this is more my type of thing https://soundcloud.com/dilemn
[17:55] <theblazehen> Thats your username?
[17:55] <charl_> he did some stuff like https://soundcloud.com/dilemn/bluescreens-undercover-dilemn which is pretty good
[17:55] <theblazehen> ah
[17:55] <charl_> no it's a french guy
[17:56] <theblazehen> Gonna give it a listen now
[17:56] <theblazehen> charl_: You ever listen to edIT or the glitch mob?
[17:56] <theblazehen> I enjoy them as well.
[17:56] <charl_> nope don't know them
[17:56] <charl_> i'll look them up
[17:57] <theblazehen> groupadd -g 5000 vmail
[17:57] <theblazehen> oops
[17:57] <theblazehen> guess you can figure out what I'm doing...
[17:58] <charl_> something related to email ?
[17:58] <theblazehen> charl_: dilemn is quite nice..
[17:58] <theblazehen> and yeah
[17:59] <charl_> that wasn't much of a guess :P
[18:08] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:25] <theblazehen> Anyone got a tar of /etc/dovecot I can have?
[18:26] <charl_> sorry, haven't used dovecot in like 10 years
[18:26] <charl_> i ran a small imaps server under my desk back in 2005 i think
[18:29] <theblazehen> Thought it might come anyway on blank ubuntu install
[18:29] <theblazehen> Turns out the purge didn't purge dependencies or something
[18:30] <theblazehen> yeah, all good now
[18:59] <charl_> no those config files in /etc gets made when you install the package
[18:59] <charl_> the setup scripts
[18:59] <charl_> otherwise every ubuntu install would have tons of nonsense lying in /etc/
[19:01] <theblazehen> yeah, I thought so
[19:01] <theblazehen> But thought maybe this way special somehow
[19:21] <theblazehen> "Since Nginx does not contain native PHP processing like some other web browsers, " wut
[19:32] <Gremble> isn't nginx a webserver?
[19:32] <Gremble> Yes, it is a webserver
[19:56] <theblazehen> yeah, server not browser
[19:56] <theblazehen> Tutorial dun goofed
[19:59] <Gremble> Also, I am pretty sure that nginx would process php, otherwise it wouldnt be really useful
[19:59] <theblazehen> yeah, through fpm
[19:59] <Gremble> Because browsers most certainly don't process php
[20:03] <theblazehen> yeah, thats the point
[20:05] <Gremble> Good. I tend to run around and miss points. So I am glad I caught this one
[20:05] <theblazehen> lol
[20:57] <kbmonkey> Hallo
[22:23] <superfly> Maaz: tell Kilos plastic and paper won't work. we need wool. try not to slaughter too many sheep...
[22:23] <Maaz> superfly: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[22:30] <kbmonkey> you folks minetesting? :)


[00:00] <rharper> it defaults to user fedora  (versus say centos); not sure what the default for the centos6 AMI was
[00:41] <powersj> rharper: thx for review that is exactly what I was looking for :)
[00:46] <rharper> cool
[13:13] <smoser> rharper, ping
[13:14] <smoser> would this be expected to render functional networking ?
[13:14] <smoser>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24748335/
[13:40] <rharper> smoser: reading
[13:41] <rharper> first glance looks sane; I generally run it through curtin apply_net or cloud-init net_convert and see what the eni ends up looking like
[13:43] <rharper> smoser:  this is what curtin renders as eni with that:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24748563/
[13:51] <smoser> bah
[13:51] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24748651/
[13:52] <smoser> i ended up figuring it out.
[14:12] <smoser> wow.
[14:12] <smoser> so that was a large time sync, but ended up verifying this actually works. so thats nice.
[14:17] <rharper> oh, if I read that right;' that's nasty;  the vlan got the ens3 name because of the duplicate macs
[14:17] <smoser> yeah
[14:17] <dpb1> where did duplicate macs come from?  random?
[14:17] <smoser> the .link file that i left around
[14:17] <smoser> it renamed the newly created vlan device
[14:17] <smoser> and then vlan was like WTH!
[14:18] <smoser> rharper, i'm not sure why udev doesn't do this for us
[14:18] <rharper> what should udev do for us ?
[14:18] <smoser> ie, we say DRIVERS=="?*"
[14:19] <smoser> why doesn't udev see the newly created vlan device
[14:19] <smoser> and rename it
[14:19] <rharper> the vlan isn't going to generate a udev event
[14:19] <smoser> (that would be bad... but what prevents it)
[14:19] <smoser> then why did systemd.link do it?
[14:19] <rharper> at least, I don't think it would but I'm not sure
[14:19] <rharper> we create a vlan dev *with* the name eth0.101
[14:19] <rharper> there's not rename event to occur
[14:20] <smoser> right
[14:20] <rharper> s/not/no
[14:20] <smoser> with a name eth0.101 and a mac that matches that of eth0
[14:20] <smoser> maybe udev just fails to rename it
[14:20] <smoser> what i'm asking is...
[14:21] <rharper> well, I guess I'm saying, I wouldn't expect udev to rename unless it saw an event for a device;  and there's no need to do a rename because it's already at the name we expect
[14:21] <smoser> a.) system boots, ethernet device is present, udev hotplug... that gets named 'eth0'
[14:21] <smoser> per
[14:21] <smoser>  SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="fa:16:3e:4b:63:49", NAME="eth0"
[14:21] <smoser> b.) vlan device is created that has a name eth0.101
[14:21] <smoser> but has the mac "fa:16:3e:4b:63:49"
[14:22] <smoser> in my buggy scenario a .link file renamed eth0.101 to 'ens3'
[14:22] <smoser> but why wouldn't udev *attempt* to rename eth0.101 to eth0 ?
[14:22] <rharper> that's a good question w.r.t eth0.101 getting renamed by systemd;  I would have thought that the device type would have prevented it from getting renamed
[14:22] <rharper> what was the rename value in sysfs ?
[14:23] <smoser> what is the field ?
[14:23] <smoser> i had collected grep -r . ens3/
[14:23] <smoser> (see the paste)
[14:26] <rharper> looking
[14:26] <blackboxsw> morning
[14:26] <rharper> ens3/name_assign_type:4
[14:27]  * rharper googles
[14:28] <rharper> https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/4526491/
[14:34] <rharper> I think the link file we wrote is not strict enought;  the vlan matched by mac only;  we don't have the DRIVERS=?* equivalent which was meant to ignore "virtual" network devices
[14:34] <rharper> now that we remove it, we don't get a second rename of devices with matching mac addresses
[14:35] <rharper> alternatively we would need to ensure the .link files included something in-addition to the mac address to prevent it from matching on non-physical devices
[14:35] <rharper> possibly reading the driver of the interface and including that in the [Match] section
[15:18] <smoser> powersj, the other hting i have today... the daily builds from recipe started faling yesterday
[15:18] <smoser> because some of the patches in need updating
[15:18] <smoser> (ubuntu/xenial and ubunty/yakkety have patches ... to the azure ds and blackboxsw's' changes there caused us to need to refresh them.. easy, just hae to do it)
[15:42] <rharper> smoser: you know, (see above for the .link trouble we had with vlans and bonds I suspect);  I wonder if much of that trouble xnox had was related to those .link files matching on the virtual devices as well
[15:43] <smoser> thats possible.
[15:43] <smoser> if he wasnt cleaning them.
[15:43] <smoser> but cloud-init *would* clean them.
[15:43] <dgarstang> Well it sucks I can't use cloud-init. :(
[15:43] <smoser> (which ... unfortunately now it will not...so ones that it wrote before it wont clean on upgrade)
[15:43] <smoser> dgarstang, we'll get you there.
[15:44] <smoser> dgarstang, if you want... and you have an instance that i can ssh into, with trunk rpm... i could poke a bit
[15:44] <dgarstang> smoser: Thanks, appreciate it, but for the time being I'll just have to do it with scripts executed from cloud-init
[15:44] <rharper> dgarstang: did we file a bug yet with your issue?  I'd like to get one so we can track it;  we'll be doing more with centos and updated cloud-init and certainly want to get your issue resolved
[15:44] <dgarstang> I don't really know how to categorise the issue exactly
[15:44] <rharper> no need to , just say "disk setup and mounts not working on centos6 ami on ec2"
[15:45] <rharper> dump in your user-data you gisted and that should be all we need
[15:45] <smoser> including the ami id that you used woudl be good.
[15:45] <smoser> or if it was a custom one...reproducing with a "official" of some sort
[15:46] <dgarstang> Gonna retry it first with a fresh pair of eyes
[16:16] <dgarstang> So, I just tried this again, I see this in the output ... "mkfs.ext2: option requires an argument -- 't'" and "Usage: mkfs.ext2 [-c|-l filename] [-b block-size] [-C cluster-size]"... I don't know why since I told it to use ext4
[16:16] <dgarstang> scrap that. USer error
[18:38] <blackboxsw> smoser: I need to fix this right ? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/322019862/buildlog_ubuntu-zesty-amd64.cloud-init_0.7.9-1538-g0a448dd-0ubuntu1+1438~trunk~ubuntu17.04.1_BUILDING.txt.gz   As in we should skip unit tests around json schema if the dependency isn't present right?
[18:39] <blackboxsw> or should we make sure the python-jsonschema dep is called out for the build env.
[18:43] <blackboxsw> yep, it's also the same issue w/ powersj's https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1695318
[18:44] <blackboxsw> ok right, grabbed it.
[18:45] <smoser> blackboxsw, yes we should skip i think
[18:45] <smoser> blackboxsw, did you click the checkymark on 1692087 or did i
[18:46] <smoser> oh. i see in the log that you did.
[18:47] <blackboxsw> oops smoser, I just finished 2093. I think I fat-fingered 2087
[18:47] <blackboxsw> was thinking of relying on a quick azure deployment test in 2093's case. /me is setting up my own account
[18:49] <smoser> blackboxsw, for that bug, https://git.launchpad.net/~smoser/cloud-init/+git/sru-info/tree/bugs/lp-1686514/disk-setup can help format a device to look like ntfs and/or gpt
[18:49] <smoser> (i was launching ones in serverstack and using /dev/vdb)
[18:51] <blackboxsw> smoser: like https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1695318 maybe
[18:51] <blackboxsw> oops I mean..
[18:51] <blackboxsw> #1634678
[18:51] <blackboxsw> smoser: like https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1634678
[18:52] <smoser> blackboxsw, so we think we're done with sru templates ?
[18:53] <blackboxsw> I'm checking again. you did the lion's share thx
[18:54] <blackboxsw> smoser: yes looks done
[18:57] <smoser> none on bug 1692087
[18:57] <smoser> i think
[18:57] <smoser> i'll do that one.
[19:27] <shaharmor> Hello, anyone around?
[19:28] <smoser> hey
[19:29] <shaharmor> Hey @smoser
[19:30] <shaharmor> I'm having some trouble with cloud-init getting stuck before finishing the module:config part
[19:30] <shaharmor> I opened this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1694399
[19:31] <shaharmor> I'm able to replicate it every few instances I start
[19:31] <shaharmor> I'm wondering if its something wrong specifically in my machine or a general thing
[19:31] <shaharmor> because I believe cloud-init is something that is used extensively
[19:32] <smoser> shaharmor, cloud-final.conf runs that
[19:32] <smoser> and runs
[19:32] <smoser> start on (stopped rc RUNLEVEL=[2345] and stopped cloud-config)
[19:32] <smoser> (per /etc/init/cloud-final.conf)
[19:33] <smoser> i suspect cloud-config has stopped , as it clearly ran. i doubt its hung there.
[19:33] <shaharmor> yeah I'm not sure its hung
[19:33] <smoser> but something on your system is preventing 'rc' from finishing
[19:33] <shaharmor> But the thing is that its not always happening
[19:34] <smoser> this is an official ubuntu image ?
[19:34] <shaharmor> It was started from the official one (On AWS), and some stuff added on it
[19:35] <shaharmor> then an AMI is created
[19:35] <shaharmor> and when that AMI is used with "userdata", this happens occasionally
[19:36] <smoser> its been a long time. i can tell you that its very unlikely that there is a general bug like you're describing
[19:37] <smoser> shaharmor, can you run 'initctl list'
[19:37] <shaharmor> Thats what I though
[19:37] <shaharmor> Let me try to replicate it again because I already shut down that machine
[20:03] <shaharmor> @smoser ok I managed to reproduce
[20:03] <shaharmor> running it now
[20:04] <shaharmor> output of 'initctl list': https://pastebin.com/7i3Wq3MQ
[20:09] <shaharmor> this is the command that runs the init.d scripts? /bin/sh /etc/init.d/rc 2
[20:09] <shaharmor> could it be that its still running other scripts in init rc2 and just waits for them to qui?
[20:17] <shaharmor> ok I figured it out
[20:19] <shaharmor> I had another script (not related to the userdata) that was set to run on rc2 that was stuck
[20:19] <shaharmor> when I killed it, the module:final ran
[20:33] <smoser> blackboxsw, you're working https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1695318
[20:33] <smoser> right ?
[20:33] <blackboxsw> almost done smoser
[20:33] <blackboxsw> yep
[20:33] <smoser> and i'll need that to get the xenial, yakkety, zesty dailiy archive builds
[20:34] <blackboxsw> was adding a card for that
[20:34] <smoser> i think those will just start workign again ocne we merge your fix to trunk
[20:34] <smoser> ie:
[20:35] <smoser>  https://code.launchpad.net/~cloud-init-dev/+recipe/cloud-init-daily-yakkety
[20:35] <smoser>  https://launchpadlibrarian.net/322160649/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.cloud-init_0.7.9-1541-g1cd4323-0ubuntu1+1385~trunk~ubuntu16.10.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[20:36] <blackboxsw> pushing a branch for review
[20:47] <blackboxsw> smoser: powersj https://code.launchpad.net/~chad.smith/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/325024
[20:48] <smoser> blackboxsw, love it
[20:49] <blackboxsw> let's just hope that handles it. I'm trying to get my cent6 lxd up again
[20:49] <blackboxsw> It should have covered all the atttached unit test failure in the bug. Just not sure if there are more now.
[20:50] <smoser> just queued a build at https://code.launchpad.net/~cloud-init-dev/+recipe/cloud-init-daily-xenial
[20:51] <smoser> and https://code.launchpad.net/~cloud-init-dev/+recipe/cloud-init-daily-devel
[20:51] <smoser> fingers crossed
[20:51] <smoser> and i have to run
[21:00] <blackboxsw> thx smoser
[21:02] <blackboxsw> powersj: I'm extending to https://git.launchpad.net/server-team-ci/    allow passing in parameters like WIP branch URL so that it can work with more than just cloud-init/master
[21:02] <powersj> blackboxsw: I assume you are referring to the centos tests?
[21:02] <powersj> I am re-writting those right now
[21:02] <blackboxsw> https://git.launchpad.net/server-team-ci/scripts/centos/centos-run.sh rather
[21:03] <blackboxsw> right, if you are touching it I'll be hands off
[21:03] <powersj> https://code.launchpad.net/~powersj/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/324982
[21:03] <blackboxsw> reviewing
[21:03] <powersj> I'm extending it so we can make it part of the pipeline
[21:03] <blackboxsw> ++
[21:04] <powersj> have all these nice tests, now time to run them on every merge proposal rather than daily :D
[21:04] <blackboxsw> heh
[21:04] <blackboxsw> man, I'd really love to use python instead of bash for any new scripts we write
[21:05] <blackboxsw> but, that's just because my shell chops are el-stinko
[21:05] <blackboxsw> and bash is hard to test.
[21:05] <blackboxsw> was just referring to the newscript comment from smoser on your branch
[21:07] <powersj> I hear you; I switch between both
[21:07] <powersj> the proposed automation is in python so far, but rest will be shell
[21:09] <blackboxsw> yeah so many external calls 'lxc ... ' it lends itself more easily to shell scripts. but, yeah.
[21:52] <blackboxsw> yay green, thx powersj smoser https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/view/Cloud-init/job/cloud-init-centos-6/21/
[21:52] <powersj> awesome
[21:53] <blackboxsw> powersj: per the other comment you got on your branch about not dup'ing the dependencies, I'll get a make ci-deps Makefile target to you. I'm trying to test out something right now
[21:53] <powersj> sweet
[21:53] <blackboxsw> it won't be until Monday though, so it probably won't help your existing branch.
[21:53] <blackboxsw> it won't be reviewed/landed


[01:49] <imnichol> Anyone who knows anything about bzr, I've got an issue with a fix to the serverguide
[06:48] <dsmythies> imnichol: I did not see your post until now. Note sure what time zone you are in, but suspect it is late for you. I do see am MP from you, so assume you got it sorted out. "bzr diff" is incredibly useful, as is "bsr status".
[06:50] <dsmythies> imnichol: Oh, I see UTC-6. I am in UTC-8.
[15:51] <imnichol> Hey dsmythies, if you check the comment on the MP, you'll see an explanation of what went wrong.
[16:19] <dsmythies> imnichol: I did. I hope to get to your MP in detail today, but it looks good. By the way, did you know we are trying to do an arbitrary string freeze for both 14.04 and 12.04 serverguides to do point releases? It was supposed to be last Thursday, but still trying to include stuff.
[16:20] <dsmythies> imnichol: We need to wrap it up so the translators have time before 15.04 load.
[17:09] <imnichol> dsmythies, must have missed that email, sorry!
[17:16] <dsmythies> imnichol: There wasn't an e-mail. It was just Peter and I on this IRC channel about a week ago Thursday.
[17:17] <imnichol> dsmythies, well I guess that would explain why I didn't get it.
[17:17] <imnichol> So what should I do now that we're in a string freeze?
[17:21] <dsmythies> imnichol: We are not yet in string freeze. I keep slipping the date, as it was arbitrary between Peter and I anyhow. There is a big MP that we would like to include, but it needs fixing. I don't know if I should fix it myself or not becuase I never heard back when I offered.
[17:21] <imnichol> What is it? out of curiosity
[17:22] <dsmythies> imnichol: Just making you aware so we can try to include what you are workign on.
[17:23] <dsmythies> https://code.launchpad.net/~markthomas/serverguide/serverguide-review-7.5/+merge/249727
[17:24] <dsmythies> imnichol: Once we do decide we are frozen, then any MPs will be held until after the translation cycle and after the publication of the guides on help.ubuntu.com.
[17:25] <imnichol> Sounds good
[17:25] <imnichol> Wish I could help with that MP, it's a bit too much for my workload right now
[17:26] <imnichol> In fact, I've got to go do some weekly cleaning
[17:26] <imnichol> Take care
[17:26] <dsmythies> imnichol: Just F.Y.I. there is a link to all active MP on the serveruide focus page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/UbuntuServerGuide
[17:27] <dsmythies> Yes, I have chores to get to also.