[00:00] <StAfZe6> hello
[00:00] <idhtns> is the firefox update i got from the repos today the actual release?
[00:00] <visik7> dmsuperman: I've not neither removed pulse just disabled and purged out libflashsupport
[00:00] <mindframe> anyone have an idea why fdisk and cfdisk don't want to create anything larger than a 2.5TB disk on a disk that shows up at 3.5 TB?
[00:00] <rename> yeah well I saw that. I have 4 different kernel versions though.
[00:00] <rename> you know when you have GRUB installed? I have 4 versions
[00:00] <rampageoberon> rename: ok and?
[00:00] <Fogel1497> @idhtns short answer, if you installed firefox 3 from the repos then yes thats the final release
[00:00] <thingfish> rename: synaptic is the easiest way.  Search for linux-image, remove the ones you don't want.  Leave the next most recent one alone, though, so you have a back up.
[00:00] <rename> yeah.
[00:00] <Jack_Sparrow> arooni microsoft natural..
[00:00] <dmsuperman> visik7, disabling didn't change anything, neither did removing. I've since given up, and don't really care to bother with it. There's no point in upgrading to gutsy...nothing is different besides pulse and crappy flash support
[00:01] <rename> so like the .18 and .19 the .17 and .16
[00:01] <thingfish> rename: you should be able to tell which are newer by the version numbers.
[00:01] <thingfish> yes
[00:01] <rename> I want to get rid of.
[00:01] <thingfish> yes
[00:01] <rename> ok great thanks.
[00:01] <thingfish> rename: but leave the next to the most recent so you have a spare.
[00:01] <rename> sorry. I didnt think that my name was rename.
[00:01] <thingfish> np
[00:02] <Fogel1497> When I go to System > Adminastration > Login Window the window briefly opens up then immediately exits. I need to change a setting in here in order to get my power button to reappear but cannot because of this problem. I have already tried a hard restart, but it did not achieve anything.
[00:02] <billenium> Hey, sorry i got disconnected... Like i said i dont have any Task Bars at the top and bottom... how do i get it back?
[00:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !resetpanels
[00:02] <Malaz> I need to fix my sound.  Help me?
[00:02] <rampageoberon> billenium: run gnome-panel
[00:02] <arooni> Jack_Sparrow, still doesnt work;  i tried that layout i got an error:  http://pastie.org/216904
[00:02] <visik7> dmsuperman: you are wrong there are many many improvement in 8.04 (but maybe nothing that you need and it's ok)
[00:02] <billenium> Hey... That didnt work
[00:02] <billenium> gnome panel is already running
[00:03] <rampageoberon> billenium: do what Jack_Sparrow suggested
[00:03] <Az> glitsj16 & evil... thanks for your input... ive given up on this one... clean install
[00:03] <weldan> to reset the panel to completely default, type this in a terminal:  « sudo mv /* /dev/null »
[00:03] <billenium> I think i left when he suggested it
[00:03] <billenium> what did Jac_Sparrow suggest?
[00:03] <dmsuperman> visik7, well obviously there are changes...i just meant out of what I used on a daily or even weekly basis. The only thing I noticed was a moved around menu, the unlock after you open admin panels (which is retarded anyway), pulseaudio, crappy flash support, wubi, and the next version of compiz
[00:03] <rdz> hey ho. how likely is it that a new kernel will be in the repos? i just upgraded and a new one was installed, which means i have to recompile some manually compiled modules. does that happen often? on dapper i could live quite some time with the same kernel
[00:03] <glitsj16> Az: goodluck
[00:03] <JinLing> !offtopic
[00:03] <Malaz> The sound in my Ubuntu 8.04 install stopped working.  Can someone help me?
[00:04] <dan_H> running Ubuntu Hardy, don't have direct rendering, however graphics card supports it (82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller)??
[00:04] <Az> any idea on why these packages uninstalled though...its got me bemused
[00:04] <billenium> Jack_Sparrow what did you suggest?
[00:04] <Mo853425ru37> hey guys
[00:04] <rampageoberon> weldan: what is that you are suggesting
[00:04] <rename> OK got them going. Thanks alot thingfish
[00:04] <Fogel1497> Whenever I run sudo gdmsetup from the terminal the window automatically quits as soon as it opens
[00:04] <Mo853425ru37> Im having probs with hardy
[00:04] <Malaz> I guess I'll try google more.
[00:04] <visik7> dmsuperman: ff3 oo2.4 with GL effects, and flash is bad as ever
[00:04] <Malaz> The sound in my Ubuntu 8.04 install stopped working.  Can someone help me?
[00:04] <visik7> dmsuperman: not worse or better
[00:04] <Jack_Sparrow> arooni no idea why you are getting an error..  it has worked without issue since I plugged it in..  more than I can say for using it on windows
[00:04] <Mo853425ru37> anyonme gonna help me
[00:05] <Az> literally only made minor alterations to xorg, then relogin - no panels and half of applets gone
[00:05] <rampageoberon> i wouldn't do what weldan said billenium
[00:05] <rdz> Mo853425ru37, ask your question
[00:05] <Mo853425ru37> Ok
[00:05] <Mo853425ru37> I have probs in hardy
[00:05] <rampageoberon> !resetpanels | billenium
[00:05] <visik7> Malaz: aven after setting everything to alsa in that panel ?
[00:05] <rdz> Mo853425ru37, someone will answer, if he/she knows an answer
[00:05] <Mo853425ru37> like when i multi task stuff
[00:05] <alecwh> Firefox 3 has reached the repositories and finished mirroring (I think... I just updated), can a moderator modify the topic?
[00:05] <dan_H> any word on enabling direct rendering on 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller under Hardy?
[00:05] <dmsuperman> visik7, I've never had any issues with flash in 7.10, before or after trying hardy. As far as FF3, I've already had that installed for a while now (and am currently about to install final) and I don't much care for OO.o
[00:05] <Jack_Sparrow> billenium change the default or move windows to the top option.. lock down updates so they dont happen when you are not there. not that kernels come out all that often anyhow
[00:06] <Malaz> The sound in my Ubuntu 8.04 install stopped working.  Also, sound output from music players like banshee or rhythmbox never worked, although the login sound and movie sound would work.  Can someone help me?
[00:06] <rampageoberon> Mo853425ru37: ask your full question in 1 line
[00:06] <Mo853425ru37> like virtualbox and firefox and k3b or any other time when im running flash Hardy would crash
[00:06] <Malaz> visik: Yeah, it still doesn't work.
[00:06] <Mo853425ru37> and i cant do anything
[00:06] <rename> hi
[00:06] <visik7> dmsuperman: deskbar applet is better and also trackerd
[00:06] <visik7> dmsuperman: :)
[00:06] <billenium> Can someone tell me that command again to kill it and turn it on again?
[00:06] <aquarius> Does Ubuntu process the .Xdefaults file for a user when they log in?
[00:06] <billenium> I forgot to copy it
[00:06] <Fogel1497> Mo853425ru37 have you tried Opera?
[00:06] <visik7> Malaz: what app are you testing ?
[00:06] <Mo853425ru37> No
[00:06] <rampageoberon> !resetpanels | billenium
[00:06] <dmsuperman> visik7, I like google desktop for that :P
[00:06] <Mo853425ru37> Im more of a firefox guy
[00:06] <Malaz> visik: The strangest thing is that I changed NOTHING.  Sometimes the sound works again after I CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE, but not today.
[00:07] <visik7> dmsuperman: not integrated
[00:07] <Fogel1497> I was too, i had problems with flash and found it worked much better in firefox.
[00:07] <Fogel1497> *much better in opera i meant
[00:07] <Malaz> visik: The login sound, the sound pref test sounds, and about to test a movie.
[00:07] <Mo853425ru37> With me i run for example virtualbox k3b and firefox my comp crashes
[00:07] <billenium> !resetpanels
[00:07] <pinnerup> After having problems with my GFX card and installing Envy and messing back and forth, now my Ubuntu won't run any resolution above 800*600. It's driving me crazy.
[00:07] <Mo853425ru37> when i run alot of stuff
[00:07] <dmsuperman> visik7, I'm running ubuntu on a machine built for gaming in windows...i have to do something with all my extra power :P
[00:07] <Mo853425ru37> and before it never did
[00:07] <Fogel1497> Firefox2 or firefox 3?
[00:07] <Mo853425ru37> firefox 2 and 3
[00:07] <rampageoberon> Mo853425ru37: probably out of ram
[00:07] <Mo853425ru37> firefox 3 doesnt start anymore so i use 2
[00:07] <visik7> dmsuperman: yes you do :)
[00:07] <yiga1> hello I just got a laptop from a friend of mine who thought it was broken didn't want to worry about it.  I installed Ubuntu 7.04 and would like to upgrade to 8.04 is there a good howto somewhere and/or precautions?
[00:07] <Malaz> visik: OK, movies work.  But login sound, sound pref test sounds, and games still do not work.
[00:07] <Mo853425ru37> i have 2.25gb of ram
[00:08] <Fogel1497> Being out of ram shouldnt cause a crash, it should just cause it to run slow anyways
[00:08] <dmsuperman> haha
[00:08] <Mo853425ru37> It crashes
[00:08] <Mo853425ru37> I cant do anything
[00:08] <locohost> being out of ram can for sure cause a crash
[00:08] <Mo853425ru37> cant move the mouse
[00:08] <visik7> Mo853425ru37: mixing ff2 and ff3 is not a good practice 'cuse they share .mozilla in your home
[00:08] <Mo853425ru37> or anything
[00:08] <FloodBot1> Mo853425ru37: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:08] <Mo853425ru37> huh
[00:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > Mo853425ru37
[00:08] <locohost> well, it will start killing random processes to free up ram
[00:08] <thomashartman1> Am I running out of ram? http://paste.ubuntu.com/20999/
[00:08] <thomashartman1> My system is kind of slow.
[00:08] <rampageoberon> thomashartman1: check your ram usage by running "free -m"
[00:09] <Mo853425ru37> its werid
[00:09] <visik7> thomashartman1: so seems
[00:09] <rampageoberon> thomashartman1: less ram is one reason for a slow system but there are others
[00:09] <Jack_Sparrow> thomashartman1 turn off effects
[00:09] <Malaz> visik: Any ideas?  This sort of thing also happened on my last Ubuntu 8.04 install, before I tried fedora and mandriva.  So it's not the cause of me messing something up.  Must be the hardware/software, not the user.
[00:09] <thomashartman1> total 486, used 479. this is bad right?
[00:09] <drunkn718> what the proper term for when you want to use serveral ethernet ports to increase LAN bandwidth, i.e. I have 2+ gigabit ethernet cards so I want to have it a LAN-effective 2gbps.
[00:09] <locohost> you have some swap free still, but, yeah, your running out of ram
[00:10] <visik7> thomashartman1: no
[00:10] <visik7> thomashartman1: it depends paste the full output
[00:10] <glitsj16> yiga1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades .. what the precautions concerns, well, having a backup of your data is always a good thing, if you haven't changed exotic configurations manually it should be a smooth upgrade
[00:10] <locohost> as long as you still have free swap, should just slow things down
[00:10] <Mo853425ru37> Like i have 2.25gb and i would run this stuff b4 when i had split my hd with windows and it would never crash only windows would but then when i delte windows and rezied it to max in partition editor this prob started to happen
[00:10] <thomashartman1> I did.
[00:10] <visik7> thomashartman1: (on pastebin)
[00:10] <thomashartman1> I did :)
[00:10] <Malaz> visik: I have a dedicated sound card, do I need to get a driver or kernel modules for it?
[00:10] <locohost> use top to see whats taking up all the ram
[00:10] <rampageoberon> thomashartman1: what does it say for +- buffers/cache
[00:10] <thomashartman1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/21002/
[00:10] <joaopinto> drunkn718, network teaming
[00:10] <chamuscas> envy problems don't know what to do
[00:10] <Mo853425ru37> brb guys
[00:10] <chamuscas> can somebody help me please
[00:10] <Mo853425ru37> i have to go somewhere
[00:10] <Odd-rationale> !envy | chamuscas
[00:10] <thomashartman1> rampageoberon: 373        113
[00:10] <drunkn718> thanks, now I can go find some tutorials
[00:11] <rampageoberon> thomashartman1: as by default ubuntu uses all your ram for cache to make full use of resources
[00:11] <chamuscas> Odd-rationale, what or where do i type that
[00:11] <rampageoberon> thomashartman1: so you have 113mb ram free and 373 used
[00:11] <visik7> thomashartman1: you really have a lot of used swap
[00:11] <thomashartman1> visik7: is that a bad thing?
[00:11] <locohost> rapp, thats true, but it wont eat into swap
[00:11] <billenium> okay that command did not work...
[00:11] <visik7> thomashartman1: depends on what you are running
[00:11] <locohost> and i think thats linux in general that does that, not just ubuntu
[00:11] <Odd-rationale> chamuscas: look for the envyng-gtk package in synaptics
[00:11] <thomashartman1> I am getting slow windows minimize/maximize, that kind of thing.
[00:11] <rampageoberon> thomashartman1: not a bad thing, just swap is slower than ram
[00:11] <billenium> I think i can see the edges of the Panels... and when i kill the process the edges go away
[00:11] <visik7> thomashartman1: open a shell
[00:12] <thomashartman1> open.
[00:12] <visik7> thomashartman1: run : top
[00:12] <chamuscas> Odd-rationale, tank you a lot mister
[00:12] <thomashartman1> top output is pastied.
[00:12] <rampageoberon> thomashartman1: turn off desktop effects to make it faster
[00:12] <visik7> thomashartman1: and press F and then q
[00:12] <Malaz> visik: Can you help me, or should I try google again (or just use fedora 9 instead)?
[00:12] <chamuscas> Odd-rationale, or mam
[00:12] <D3RGPS31> Is there a log of ubuntu's startup? (after you start from the boot menu, to when you can login)
[00:12] <Fogel1497> Whenever i run 'sudo gdmsetup' from the terminal to change the login window settings i get a 'Segmentation error' and the window closes
[00:12] <visik7> Malaz: you have not replied to my question
[00:12] <locohost> top, see whats using all the ram, if you can restart that process...see if your mem usage goes down, maybe there is a leak or something.  ..or your just doing a lot
[00:12] <rampageoberon> thomashartman1: but i wouldn't worry too much about that
[00:12] <rdz> what is the simplest way of getting rid of all unused kernels?
[00:12] <visik7> thomashartman1: who is the first ?
[00:12] <Odd-rationale> chamuscas: to be honest, i don't know a whole lot about envy. it used to be unsupported here...
[00:12] <Jack_Sparrow> thomashartman1 turn off effects especially if you have an onboard sound card
[00:13] <Malaz> visik: The app-testing question?  Yes, I did.  Maybe you missed it.
[00:13] <Felonious> wow I cant believe linux actually works with my keyboard media player keys
[00:13] <thomashartman1> don't understand effects.
[00:13] <joaopinto> rdz, remove them manually :P
[00:13] <Felonious> aka forward, back, pause
[00:13] <Felonious> amazing
[00:13] <rampageoberon> rdz: use synaptic to remove older versions of linux-image
[00:13] <thomashartman1> what are they? how do I turn off? is this compiz?
[00:13] <Odd-rationale> Felonious: you should stop being surprised.... ;)
[00:13] <rdz> rampageoberon, i'll try .. thanks
[00:13] <Zelda1> How do I get rid of them in the GRUB menu?
[00:13] <rampageoberon> rdz: keep atleast one older version incase you need to roll back
[00:13] <chamuscas> Odd-rationale, i didn't understand the unsupporterd part, what does that mean
[00:13] <Jack_Sparrow> thomashartman1 system... preferences... appearance... last tab on the right..
[00:13] <flaran_> hi..  earlier I stupidly installed nvidia-glx (when i'm using nvidia-glx-new) and made some links between openGL SO files.  i removed the links but now my drivers won't work anymore
[00:13] <Malaz> (04:07:22 PM) Malaz: visik: The login sound, the sound pref test sounds, and about to test a movie.
[00:13] <Felonious> im suprised because I couldnt get my ATI drivers to install no matter what I did
[00:13] <rdz> rampageoberon, ok.. thanks for the hint
[00:13] <Malaz> (04:07:58 PM) Malaz: visik: OK, movies work.  But login sound, sound pref test sounds, and games still do not work.
[00:13] <flaran_> any ideas what I should do to fix them?
[00:13] <Jack_Sparrow> thomashartman1 yes.. effects are compiz
[00:14] <Felonious> so... this is unexpected
[00:14] <thomashartman1> yeah I don't need that.
[00:14] <thomashartman1> :)
[00:14] <joaopinto> !sound | Malaz
[00:14] <Odd-rationale> chamuscas: basically, use evny at your own risk!
[00:14] <pen> chamuscas: you can use envyng
[00:14] <orphean> Zelda1: if you uninstall them they will be removed from the grub menu. if you want them installed for some reason but not in the grub menu, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove their entries
[00:14] <chamuscas> Odd-rationale, looooool so what are the options :p
[00:14] <visik7> Malaz: depending on the game they may relay on old or unsupported audio implementations such as oss
[00:14] <chamuscas> pen, where can i get that one, or what should i do ?
[00:14] <Zelda1> well it didnt remove them from teh grub menu
[00:14] <pwolfe> why is it that xorg.conf gets rewritten every time I boot after I install the nvidia driver (from their) wesite?  it works perfectly until i reboot
[00:15] <yiga1> glitsj16: it's a "brand new" computer - a virus ate up my friends hd and I just installed Ubuntu on top of it.  I found this, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes so easy.
[00:15] <visik7> thomashartman1: so the first in the list was ?
[00:15] <pwolfe> I can find nothing helpful on the forums
[00:15] <Odd-rationale> chamuscas: it is usually safer to use the drivers from the restricted drivers manager.
[00:15] <thomashartman1> vikk7: you mean when I did F then q?
[00:15] <Zelda1> ok got it thanks
[00:15] <pen> chamuscas: what is your problem?
[00:15] <Paddy_EIRE> pwolfe, hey what are you looking for?
[00:15] <visik7> thomashartman1: yes
[00:15] <Malaz> visik: As I said, nothing works _except_ video.  Including Ubuntu sound effects like login, as well as music players.
[00:15] <pen> chamuscas: I saw he told you to use envy
[00:15] <thomashartman1> that looked like some kind of help readout...
[00:15] <shazzam> hello... me again... so I didnt have time before but now I want to install ubuntu on an external hard drive but i dont know how to partition
[00:15] <locohost> try saving the xorg.conf file somehwere else in the if, then move it over as root
[00:15] <glitsj16> yiga1: enjoy the new system :)
[00:15] <pwolfe> I'm looking for a way to use the nvidia drivers from their site
[00:15] <Az> anyone recommend a good backup application for ubuntu? tried sbackup which is quite good
[00:15] <chamuscas> Odd-rationale, tank you for your time :)
[00:15] <Malaz> visik: But thanks for the help.  You're obviously a bit flooded at this time, maybe I'll try again later.
[00:15] <visik7> thomashartman1: oh and Enter at the end
[00:15] <shazzam> how much does ubuntu need and how do i tell it what to split up?
[00:15] <Paddy_EIRE> !nick | pwolfe
[00:16] <Paddy_EIRE> woops
[00:16] <orphean> chamuscas: what does sbackup not do that you want done?
[00:16] <pwolfe> !nick | pwolfe
[00:16] <pwolfe> im editing it in vim in another console as sudo
[00:16] <Az> just want to test the water
[00:16] <Paddy_EIRE> pwolfe, 1 moment.. and try using tab completion so we can see who you are talking to.. makes following the conversation much easier
[00:16] <chamuscas> pen, that's the problem before i erase my disk i had install envy from the site of the italian guy, now i can't find where is the download link
[00:16] <yiga1> glitsj16: thank you
[00:16] <visik7> Malaz: just a quick test run ... cat > /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp if you hear something it's not a driver issue
[00:16] <drunkn718> so from what i've been reading on tutorials online, networking bonding does round-robin load balancing across the NICs, doesn't this mean it is **not** providing increased bandwidth?
[00:17] <visik7> thomashartman1: ...
[00:17] <pen> chamuscas: so you want to use envy
[00:17] <chamuscas> orphean, sry  didn't understood
[00:17] <Paddy_EIRE> pwolfe, also could you provide me with your gfx card make and model
[00:17] <pen> chamuscas: ok, then it's really easy
[00:17] <shazzam> hwo much do i partition for ubuntu and i dont want to lose anything else on the hard drive..
[00:17] <pen> chamuscas: ubuntu has the envy in the repository
[00:17] <Az> 10gb i use
[00:17] <pwolfe> its a bfg 8800gt oc
[00:17] <pen> chamuscas: go to synaptics and search for envy
[00:17] <chamuscas> pen, well basically yes i don't know another way of solving the problem
[00:17] <Paddy_EIRE> !envy | pwolfe
[00:17] <shazzam> so when i start the live cd up and it opens the partition thing what do i type or press?
[00:17] <chamuscas> pen, and which files should i check?
[00:18] <pwolfe> so will envy provide me with the most up to date version?
[00:18] <Paddy_EIRE> yes
[00:18] <orphean> drunkn718: well yes and no. By loadbalancing helps by ensuring that a particular nic isn't being overloaded and dropping packets.  but it doesn't use them both at once as some kind of supernic
[00:18] <visik7> pwolfe: mostly
[00:18] <pen> envyngclick
[00:18] <pwolfe> ok thanks i guess I'll just give up and use that
[00:18] <pen> chamuscas: envyng
[00:18] <visik7> pwolfe: not the beta ones
[00:18] <Paddy_EIRE> pwolfe, most up to date stable version afaik
[00:18] <Malaz> visik: I got nothing on that.  But top of the troubleshooting page has the command ""find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd"" to run.  It has a solution if it returns nothing, which it does.  So I'm rebotting now to see if it worked.
[00:18] <thomashartman1> visik7: I'm hearing you, just don't understand. when i top, F, then q, I got a list of fields. should I have chosen one of them?
[00:18] <chamuscas> there's no envyng there pen
[00:18] <Malaz> visik: Thanks, I'll tell you if it works.
[00:18] <pwolfe> ok, thanks guys
[00:18] <visik7> thomashartman1: than press Enter
[00:18] <pinnerup> After installing EnvyNG and messing around a bit, my Ubuntu now will run no higher resolution than 800*600. What can I do?
[00:18] <drunkn718> someone mentioned teaming to me to double my lan bandwidth with 2 gigabit ports, but all these tutorials dont mention anything like that..
[00:19] <pope> Hello, I am looking to add Evolution to sessions, so it will launch at start up, but I want it to start off minimized. is there a way to do this?
[00:19] <Paddy_EIRE> !repositories | chamuscas
[00:19] <chamuscas> pen, oh oh wait a moment
[00:19] <thomashartman1> visik7: first was  7226 thartman  20   0  219m 130m 9664 S  0.0 26.8   1:24.40 ghc-6.8.2
[00:19] <pen> pinnerup: go to xorg.conf and fix it
[00:19] <pinnerup> pen: I have no idea how I do that.
[00:19] <chamuscas> ubottu, tank for that information
[00:19] <thomashartman1> visik7: it's a haskell program I'm working on.
[00:19] <Paddy_EIRE> chamuscas, that was me... ubottu is a bot :P
[00:19] <i00nsu> /msg nickserv identify painkiller
[00:19] <visik7> thomashartman1: it's eating your memory
[00:19] <pen> pinnerup: try run this command from which I found in the xorg.conf file
[00:20] <chamuscas> Paddy_EIRE, what do you people want to say when you write exclamation marc then something on front?
[00:20] <MrElendig> thomashartman1: yay haskell
[00:20] <glitsj16> pinnerup: what exactly do you mean with 'messing around' ? can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log to paste.ubuntu.com ? that way people can try to give detailed help
[00:20] <chamuscas> Paddy_EIRE, looool as i was thinking XD :P great bot
[00:20] <pen> pinnerup: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[00:20] <i00nsu> hi all
[00:20] <visik7> thomashartman1: around 130mb
[00:20] <pen> chamuscas: foudn it?
[00:20] <Jack_Sparrow> i00nsu go change your nickserv password  NOW
[00:20] <thomashartman1> MrElendig: HAppS sucks a lot of memory
[00:20] <chamuscas> pen, yes i think tan you
[00:20] <pen> chamuscas: it's envyng-core
[00:21] <pen> chamuscas: install the gtk one
[00:21] <orphean> chamuscas: It tells the bot to explain something. !<subject>
[00:21] <thomashartman1> visik7: thanks, good to know how to sort processes that way.
[00:21] <MrElendig> thomashartman1: I just hack haskell to customize xmonad and xmobar :D
[00:21] <visik7> be aware of envy-ng it sucks your soul if you purge it
[00:21] <visik7> thomashartman1: and the second place is for ?
[00:21] <chamuscas> pen, i had that one and the gtk to
[00:21] <visik7> Malaz:  ?
[00:22] <visik7> Malaz: are you rebooting all the time ?
[00:22] <MrElendig> but, it's a realy nice language
[00:22] <chamuscas> orphean, tanks for solving my puzzle  XD tank you a lot :p
[00:22] <Malaz> visik: Ubuntu sounds (bongos at login) and game sounds now work.  But still no music.  I think it's a seperate issue, because it was not working yesterday, when all other sound was working.
[00:22] <thomashartman1> visik7: 19712 thartman  20   0  183m  66m  15m S  0.0 13.6   8:21.87 firefox-2-bin
[00:22] <barslow> I hate firefox 3, can I uninstall it in Ubuntu 8.04?
[00:22] <MrElendig> barslow: yes
[00:22] <Malaz> visik: I installed a new kernel module.  I needed to reboot.
[00:22] <Arv3n> Hi all!
[00:22] <devslashnull> hi
[00:22] <MrElendig> man apt-get
[00:22] <chamuscas> pen, i still can't have the effects :p which means that i don«t have envy propertly installed :S
[00:22] <visik7> barslow: yes alternatives are: firefox-2 and epiphany :)
[00:23] <visik7> Malaz: mp3 ?
[00:23] <visik7> Malaz: or ogg ?
[00:23] <devslashnull> who here has installed firefox 3
[00:23] <visik7> or what ?
[00:23] <pen> chamuscas: what card do you have and did you enable compiz in appearance
[00:23] <pen> ?
[00:23] <barslow> it came installed with 8.04
[00:23] <barslow> i wana get rid of it
[00:23] <glitsj16> devslashnull: have it yes, what seems to be the trouble ?
[00:23] <visik7> anyway Malaz  reboot for a kernel module ? wtf ?
[00:23] <pinnerup> pen: That did it, thanks.
[00:23] <Arv3n> Can anyone help me install Ubuntu (Feisty Fawn) on my Western Digital 320GB MyBook Essential Edition external usb hard drive on my Mac mini (latest $599 model)..? it wont let me boot from it. its totally not recognized as a bootable device. yeah ive formatted it and completely erased it so many times!! help!
[00:23] <Fogel1497> Whenever I try to run gdmsetup i get the following error, "You might be using a different display manager, such as KDM (KDE Display Manager), CDE login (dtlogin), or xdm. If you wish to use this feature, then your system will need to be configured to use GDM instead."
[00:23] <chamuscas> pen, i may not have enable compiz in appearance, how do i do that ?
[00:24] <pope> is it possible to launch a program as minimized at startup?
[00:24] <Jack_Sparrow> visik7 Please dont use the rude shorthand
[00:24] <chamuscas> pen, wait i did that but gives a problem
[00:24] <thomashartman1> MrElendig: yeah, I love haskell ;)
[00:24] <Malaz> visik: ... The troubleshooting page told me to reboot, so I did.
[00:24] <pen> chamuscas: what?
[00:24] <visik7> Jack_Sparrow: got it
[00:24] <visik7> Malaz: ok nevermind
[00:24] <pen> pinnerup: np
[00:24] <__ryan__> how else would you load a new kernel without rebooting lol
[00:24] <visik7> Malaz: about the music ?
[00:24] <Arv3n> come on people .-_-
[00:24] <visik7> __ryan__: a kernel module is not a kernel
[00:24] <Arv3n> is there a mac channel?
[00:25] <glitsj16> Fogel1497: do you have any of those mentioned in the error message installed ? if so, it's conflicting with gdm and it asks to remove those
[00:25] <__ryan__> ah a module, i read kernel
[00:25] <pen> __ryan__: you have to reboot
[00:25] <MrElendig> I usualy end up using py tho, most of my scripts are hevy on IO, and I find it easier to do in py
[00:25] <chamuscas> pen, i may have solve my problem let me see
[00:25] <Arv3n> is there an intel mac irc channel?
[00:25] <Fogel1497> glits i installed konqueror at one point not fully understandign what it was but i uninstalled it
[00:25] <pen> chamuscas: ok
[00:25] <visik7> Arv3n: not in this server Afaik
[00:25] <Malaz> visik: MP3, but I installed the needed codecs.
[00:25] <xopey> anyone know where i can find some troubleshooting help with partimage?
[00:25] <rampageoberon> how can I get a script to start on boot?
[00:25] <pen> Arv3n: go to insanelymac
[00:25] <visik7> Malaz: rythmbox ?
[00:25] <pen> Arv3n: they have their irc
[00:26] <Malaz> visik: I tried both pythmbox and banshee.  Both think they are playing it, but no sound comes out of speakers.
[00:26] <__ryan__> rhythmbox will tell you if you need codecs or not so that's probably a good idea  to try :P
[00:26] <glitsj16> Fogel1497: are you using regular ubuntu ? or kubuntu perhaps ?
[00:26] <Malaz> visik: rythmbox*
[00:26] <Fogel1497> Regular ubuntu
[00:27] <visik7> Malaz: try this from the command line
[00:27] <jameslr> Hello all
[00:27] <chamuscas> hello
[00:27] <neeto> is there a way to force a check for hardware changes? (USB drives etc...)
[00:27] <visik7> gst-launch-0.10 playbin uri=file:///path/to/an/mp3
[00:27] <glitsj16> Fogel1497: checked in synaptics if one of those others is installed ? gdm seems to think so, might be worth a look
[00:27] <visik7> neeto: most of the hardware is autoconfigured a part from the video card
[00:28] <visik7> Malaz: result ?
[00:28] <Jack_Sparrow> neeto try sudo /etc/init.d/hal start   to try and get a usb drive recognized..
[00:28] <neeto> visik7: I am trying to mount a new eSATA device, but it's not showing up at all
[00:28] <visik7> neeto: mmm
[00:28] <visik7> neeto: check the chipset against google if it's supported by the 2.6.24 kerne
[00:28] <Jack_Sparrow> neeto try sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart   to try and get a usb drive recognized..
[00:28] <visik7> neeto: or maybe you already do that
[00:29] <i00nsu> ok .. Jack_Sparrow  is done thz
[00:29] <jameslr> neeto: does dmesg output anything when you connect it?
[00:29] <Jack_Sparrow> i00nsu great
[00:29] <genii> neeto: eSATA recognises as fixed disk so it doesn't scan all the time. Do as Jack_Sparrow suggests to force rescan
[00:29] <Malaz> visik: I'll paste the output to pastebin.  No sound output.  It took forever because of all the stupid spaces and brackets I had to escape....
[00:29] <eitreach> can anyone name a solution for messed up colours in videos in 8.04?
[00:29] <neeto> visik7: I don't see why there would be a chipset support problem
[00:29] <eitreach> both vlc and totem.
[00:30] <visik7> neeto: it's always around the corner :)
[00:30] <i00nsu> now .. i have this litle problem.. no youtube sounds, no flv sound, no mplayer sound no alsa test sound. what should I do ?
[00:30] <visik7> Malaz: you should learn the power of tab
[00:30] <Malaz> visik: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21008/
[00:30] <Malaz> visik: Does that auto-escape symbols?
[00:30] <i00nsu> if I use rytmic box i have sound.. but none with other players
[00:30] <neeto> jameslr: dmesg doesn't seem to say anything too obvious about it. I can't find anywhere that it mentions the drive...
[00:30] <visik7> Malaz: mostly
[00:31] <ASULutzy> i00nsu: You'll probably need to edit those other programs' preferences
[00:31] <visik7> Malaz: in this case yes
[00:31] <Malaz> visik: Tab is like gnome-do.  I always mean to use it, but I always just do it the old slow way out of habit.
[00:31] <jameslr> neeto: what sata controller are you using?
[00:31] <neeto> jameslr: the one on my mobo
[00:31] <visik7> Malaz: ok gstreamer says that it's playing
[00:31] <jameslr> neeto: it has a chipset. Do you know what the name of it is?
[00:31] <Malaz> visik: Yes.  But again, no sound.
[00:31] <visik7> Malaz: now you should check your mixer volumes
[00:32] <Malaz> visik: Done.
[00:32] <aurri> hola
[00:32] <visik7> Malaz: I know you hate me in this moment :)
[00:32] <glitsj16> eitrach: what video output settings do you have active at the moment ?
[00:32] <jameslr> neeto: or perhaps do you know the brand and model of your motherboard?
[00:32] <neeto> jameslr: the chipset for this mobo is an intel 975p I believe, but it shouldn't be a problem since my boot drive is already connected to the same sata controller...
[00:32] <aurri> alguien habla en español
[00:32] <eitreach> glitsj16: how do I find that out?
[00:32] <Malaz> visik: Yep.  I've done that before, about 2 years ago.  Very embarrassing.  But they're all good right now.
 ? I mean: >> no sound in alsa test
[00:33] <Zeroyez> Hi, I just installed the newest updates and they really really screwed up my ubuntu installation
[00:33] <visik7> Malaz: anyway what's your audio card ?
[00:33] <n00dle> Anyone solve the kernel-update-then-vboxdrv-cant-run issue? I'd look up the bug, but launchpad's down TO BE UPGRADED!
[00:33] <glitsj16> eitrach: in vlc you can find those under preferences, totem is gstreamer based, via "gstreamer-properties"
[00:33]  * n00dle growls very loudly.
[00:33] <visik7> Malaz: maybe some integrated old sis ?
[00:33] <Vonunov> Aurri: Lo hablo, pero debe ir al #ubuntu-es para ayuda en espanol.
[00:33] <Zeroyez> Everything I run as root closes after 0.2 seconds of being open
[00:33] <aurri> ok
[00:33] <aurri> gracias
[00:33] <Vonunov> :)
[00:33] <visik7> Zeroyez: it's for security reason
[00:34] <Malaz> visik: Came with the motherboard.  I have 2 of them.  Maybe I should just use my good sound card in my old hulk.  1 sec, I'll check.
[00:34] <Zeroyez> So how can I turn off this, because I really want to gksudo nautilus right now :[
[00:34] <eitreach> glitsj16: it was strange, because after restarting X, and playing a video for around 15 seconds, it only became bad after that.
[00:34] <visik7> Zeroyez: just kiddiing :D
[00:35] <Malaz> visik: I put it near the bottom, so I can't read it without turning th comp off and taking it out.  Could I just replace it with a diff sound card w/o telling linux?
[00:35] <visik7> Malaz: an lspci is ok
[00:35] <Malaz> visik: Because if I'm going to take it out, I may as well just replace it.
[00:35] <n00dle> Anyone using VirtualBox here solve the update problem?
[00:35] <Malaz> visik: Hah, forgot about that.  I did that 5 min ago...
[00:35] <visik7> :)
[00:35] <glitsj16> eitrach: i see, try changing the output modules to see if it is a systematic effect, hard to track without much info i suppose
[00:36] <Zeroyez> I guess I'll try the forums then...
[00:36] <shazzam> i want to install ubuntu but i need help with manual partitioning!!
[00:36] <visik7> Zeroyez: try to run it from the console with sudo command and print on a pastebin the output
[00:36] <shazzam> please help
[00:36] <jameslr> shazzam: ok what is your trouble with it?
[00:36] <Malaz> visik: Hmm, apparently I have 2.  One must be integrated, or something...
[00:37] <__ryan__> if you need help with manual partitioning you should prob be using wubi or something
[00:37] <Jack_Sparrow> __ryan__ THat isnt a better choice
[00:37] <Az> noodle - have you tried enabling pae/nx
[00:37] <Malaz> visik: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21009/
[00:37] <__ryan__> better than messing your system up
[00:37] <visik7> Malaz: what's selected in sys->pref->sound ?
[00:37] <Zeroyez> visik, run what from the console?
[00:37] <jameslr> there's nothing better than messing your system up...just to learn how to fix it :)
[00:37] <visik7> Zeroyez: sudo <the command you want to  run>
[00:37] <Jack_Sparrow> __ryan__ Wubi can be just a dangerous
[00:38] <__ryan__> Jack_Sparrow,  i guess so
[00:38] <Zeroyez> well, sudo commands work
[00:38] <Malaz> visik: and http://paste.ubuntu.com/21010/
[00:38] <Jack_Sparrow> shazzam You really should have a backup if anything you cant afford to lose when working at tthe partition level under any os
[00:38] <Zeroyez> It's just anything that has an gui
[00:38] <shazzam> its a 500 GB hd with a couple of tv shows...
[00:39] <Malaz> visik: All autodetect, except default mixer, which is c-media (which was selected when I installed 8.04)
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> shazzam THat does not change my suggestion
[00:39] <visik7> Zeroyez: I want to know the output of the program that die after 0.2 seconds
[00:39] <shazzam> how much room do i setr aside for ubuntu and how do i do it?
[00:39] <glitsj16> Zeroyez: for graphical apps, use gksudo, have you tried that ?
[00:39] <Zeroyez> ex. Nautilus, Login Screen Set Up
[00:39] <Zeroyez> yes
[00:39] <sagredo> Hi. I'd like to create a text file of all possible commands (pressing tab tab)
[00:39] <sagredo> How?
[00:39] <shazzam> im confused when the partition screen pops up
[00:39] <Zeroyez> I've been gksudo
[00:39] <shazzam> i choose manaul
[00:39] <jameslr> shazzam: the trouble with dual booting linux and windows is you can mess up your windows partition in the process if you're not careful
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> shazzam defrag the windows drive and let ubuntu installer resize the partition automatically
[00:39] <glitsj16> Zeroyez: anything usefull in the logs ?
[00:39] <i00nsu> anyone plz.. i need to know why or what is wrong..  in sys>pref>sound for ALSA i got no sound. if I use ADC i get sound.. Anyway mplayer dont have sound.. youtube dont have sound.. stream radios have no sound.. i need help PLZ
[00:39] <visik7> Malaz: my settings are all on alsa and the card that I want in the Mixer tracks
[00:40] <shazzam> im using a external hd with just movies on it
[00:40] <Zeroyez> zeroyez@zeroyez-desktop:~$ gksudo nautilus
[00:40] <Zeroyez> Initializing nautilus-share extension
[00:40] <Zeroyez> and then back to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:40] <Malaz> visik: Just to remind you, now everything but music works.  This is a seperate problem than the original.  But I'll try setting to alsa
[00:40] <__ryan__> i use the gparted livecd, makes things easy
[00:40] <genii> yazan: Please do not private message me.
[00:40] <Zeroyez> the nautilus window will popup just for 0.2 seconds then close with nothing to say
[00:40] <shazzam> well im syupid cause i scared im deleting my whole thing... how do itell it what to choose and where
[00:41] <visik7> Malaz: yes but gstreamer relays on that settings so ...
[00:41] <sagredo> how can I > <pressing the tab key> <pressing the tab key> to a .txt?
[00:41] <Malaz> visik: Test now works.  I'll see if music does
[00:41] <n00dle> Az, "pae/nx" ? No, I was referring to the issue of when you run the updater and get a kernel update, then there is no vboxdrv.ko update.
[00:41] <shazzam> well im stupid cause im scared im deleting my whole thing... how do itell it what to choose and where
[00:41] <dan_> running Hardy, direct rendering = Yes for root, but no for user?? in xorg.conf module "dri" is loaded and Mode set to 0666
[00:41] <Jack_Sparrow> shazzam please dont repeat
[00:41] <shazzam> i spelt it bad and i didnt want to get yelled at
[00:41] <__ryan__> DRI is always set to 0666
[00:41] <shazzam> like before
[00:42] <flaran_> for some reason my nvidia drivers aren't working.  i reinstalled and nothing happened.. I have a Geforce 9500GS
[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> shazzam restart the installer and let it resize the drive automatically
[00:42] <Zeroyez> the last thing I did, other than update with the update utility, was sudo rm -r ~/.local/share/Trash/*
[00:42] <Malaz> visik: Music works now.  Thank you!  I don't know why setting it to ALSA didn't work when I tried it last boot...
[00:42] <PD> ho
[00:42] <flaran_> the old drivers work fine, but I can only get 800x600 res =/
[00:42] <shazzam> but i still want to use the drive for windows? it has movies and sruff on it??
[00:42] <shazzam> stuff
[00:42] <flaran_> anyone have any ideas?
[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> shazzam You dont seem to be listening so I cant help you
[00:42] <visik7> Malaz: probably some misconf side effects
[00:42] <visik7> Malaz: good for you
[00:42] <visik7> :)
[00:42] <dan_> I have just read in some forums that explicitly setting DRI to 0666 fixes probs where regular users don't have direct rendering..
[00:42] <shazzam> I want to listen and I want to understand
[00:43] <Malaz> visik: Well, thanks a lot.  I wonder when Pulse will actually work... hopefully by 8.10...
[00:43] <Jack_Sparrow> shazzam restart the installer and let it resize the drive automatically
[00:43] <glitsj16> Zeroyez: unless there where some nautilus settings in your trash that shouldn't interfere
[00:43] <visik7> Malaz: it does works (at least for me) but not for flash
[00:43] <shazzam> what will that do?
[00:43] <legend2440> Zeroyez: open /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname files and make sure hostname matches 2nd line in hosts file
[00:43] <N1N31NCHN41L5> why am i not allowed to run most anything - this is what i always get = Failed to run /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk as user root.
[00:43] <N1N31NCHN41L5> The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.    how can i fix this eror. this is also preventing me from upgrading to hary heron
[00:43] <visik7> Malaz: and since everybody use flash it dies in painfull death :)
[00:43] <Optimus55> can't get to firefox website... :(
[00:43] <Malaz> visik: Hah, it worked ONLY for flash for a while on my comp.  And videos, but that was it.
[00:44] <ricardo_> tytyt
[00:44] <Malaz> Thanks again, visik.
[00:44] <visik7> Malaz: yes some schizophrenic behavior
[00:44] <ricardo_> oi
[00:44] <visik7> Malaz: you're welcome
[00:44] <glitsj16> Optimus55: knowing that the final 3.0 is freshly baked and the record attempt, i guess even mozilla can get overloaded ..
[00:45] <Jack_Sparrow> ricardo_ Please dont do that
[00:45] <ricardo_> hi to brasil 1
[00:45] <dan_> any suggestions on enabling direct rendering for regular users; root glxinfo | grep direct = Yes
[00:45] <visik7> N1N31NCHN41L5: you have create another user that is not the one created when you install your sys ?
[00:45] <n00dle> az, I did a search on it, found a hit on a forum, tried to go to the referenced bug entry on launchpad, but it's down for upgrades.
[00:45] <Malaz> visik: Kinda like KDE4.0.  Awesome features, but why would you include it in a 'enterprise' release??
[00:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !br > ricardo_
[00:45] <ricardo_> oi
[00:45] <N1N31NCHN41L5> visik7:  i gave my user account FULL permissions when i created it - what do i do???
[00:46] <visik7> N1N31NCHN41L5: it was a question
[00:46] <ricardo_> iu
[00:46] <Malaz> visik: Thanks for the help, the lack of sound was getting really annoying.
[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> ricardo_ Please stop
[00:46] <visik7> Malaz: don't ask it to me I really don't know :)
[00:46] <sudobash> lol
[00:46] <ricardo_> ok
[00:46] <N1N31NCHN41L5> nope - only made this one when i setup
[00:46] <Zeroyez> yeah the lines match (other than the <IP_ADDRESS> in front of it)
[00:46] <ricardo_> hi !
[00:47] <visik7> N1N31NCHN41L5: mmm sudo ls what says ?
[00:47] <visik7> :)
[00:47] <sudobash> wow ricardo is something
[00:47] <visik7> (not kidding)
[00:47] <Zeroyez> but my problem isn't just with nautilus, it's anything that I apply root to that has a graphical interface
[00:47] <N1N31NCHN41L5> visik7: sudo ls says nothing -
[00:47] <scizzo-> is virtualbox for generic kernel a bit broken in hardy?
[00:47] <Zeroyez> it will just open and immediately close
[00:47] <visik7> N1N31NCHN41L5: sudo -i ?
[00:47] <scizzo-> I can't load the vbox module correctly it seems
[00:47] <N1N31NCHN41L5> visik7:  nada again
[00:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Zeroyez Have you used sudo to run gui apps in the past..  instead of gksudo?
[00:47] <n00dle> scizzo-, having the same prob just after the kernel update.
[00:48] <Zeroyez> nope
[00:48] <visik7> N1N31NCHN41L5: nada in what sens ?
[00:48] <n00dle> scizzo-, it seems there isn't a vboxdrv.ko built yet for 2.6.24-19
[00:48] <visik7> N1N31NCHN41L5: what does it says ?
[00:48] <sgodsell> hey everyone here download firefox 3 right now.  It is officially released today.  They need millions of users to download firefox 3 to set a world record.
[00:48] <scizzo-> n00dle: wonderful
[00:48] <sgodsell> http://blog.mozilla.com/airmozilla/2008/06/13/download-day-live/
[00:48] <Jack_Sparrow> sgodsell  Please stop
[00:48] <gaintsura> hey all, I've been dealing with my system locking up for about 2 months now, it does it completely random, and I could be running anything, This last time when it froze, just before it did, I noticed that there is a memory leak in something, although it locked up before I was able to find out. Where would I find out what it was?
[00:48] <sgodsell> http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=linux&lang=en-US
[00:49] <N1N31NCHN41L5> visik7:  it doesnt say anything at all - just goes to the next line josh@ubuntu:~$
[00:49] <__ryan__> gaintsura,  did you run memtest
[00:49] <mneptok> N1N31NCHN41L5: why do you need to run those GNOME daemon processes as root?
[00:49] <gaintsura> __ryan__: yes, I've run memtest, and it found nothing
[00:49] <visik7> N1N31NCHN41L5: so you not have any way to become root ?
[00:49] <Zeroyez> uh somehow the channel froze for me
[00:49] <__ryan__> does it happen in X and console or just X
[00:49] <n00dle> scizzo-, I found a forum entry with a reference to a bug, but the launchpad system's down for an upgrade right now, and I can't go there to see if there's a workaround, a solution, or if we're just screwed
[00:49] <N1N31NCHN41L5> visik7:  how do i become root
[00:49] <gaintsura> __ryan__:  both
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !sudo > N1N31NCHN41L5
[00:50] <mneptok> N1N31NCHN41L5: *why* are you trying to run software-properties-gtk as root?
[00:50] <N1N31NCHN41L5>  Failed to run /usr/bin/software-properties-gtk as user root.
[00:50] <mneptok> N1N31NCHN41L5: not to mention, sudo is not to be used with such things, anyway. an error is expected.
[00:50] <visik7> n00dle: so the only thing you can do is wait like us :)
[00:50] <N1N31NCHN41L5> i got that when i tried to open software sources - after that software sources doesnt even open now
[00:51] <mneptok> N1N31NCHN41L5: just run the software update applet from the menu system
[00:51] <gaintsura> __ryan__:  when my system locked last, I had looked down at my system monitor and both my physical and swap were full up
[00:51] <Juventino> hi, i got kubuntu installed on an HP 530 notebook, alsa is installed alright, but there's no sound, when i try to play an mp3 or a movie or whatever..
[00:51] <graft> !ff3 > graft
[00:51] <Zeroyez> so no i've never used sudo to run gui things, i've always used gksudo or the enter password window after clicking something in the menu
[00:51] <N1N31NCHN41L5> mneptok:  heres where u missed the beginning - that DOESNT work - SAME eror
[00:51] <visik7> time to sleep bye
[00:51] <N1N31NCHN41L5> visik7:  ty for the help
[00:51] <mneptok> N1N31NCHN41L5: running from the menu? NOT typing commands in a terminal?
[00:51] <__ryan__> gaintsura,  was there anything in /var/log/syslog
[00:52] <gaintsura> you want a pastebin of my syslog?
[00:52] <N1N31NCHN41L5> mneptok: yes running from the menu - all these erors have come from menu not the terminal
[00:52] <visik7> I like this channel nobody bother you on a query if you give help
[00:52] <visik7> :)
[00:52] <__ryan__> not if nothing stands out
[00:52] <visik7> 'night
[00:52] <Christop> Can someone help me? I cant get it to detect my 2nd monitor
[00:52] <__ryan__> gaintsura, how much ram do you have on that system?
[00:53] <mneptok> N1N31NCHN41L5: i'd like a screenshot of that, if you don't mind
[00:53] <gaintsura> 2GB
[00:53] <gaintsura> and 4GB swap
[00:53] <jameslr> Zeroyez: try gksudo -d appname. Should give extra debug info on the terminal. Maybe something useful in there?
[00:53] <Varak_> Christop: what kinda video card?
[00:53] <__ryan__> 4gig swap is too much by the way
[00:53] <Christop> 8800gt
[00:53] <jameslr> Zeroyez: did you check your logs?
[00:53] <Varak_> nvidia?
[00:53] <Christop> yea
[00:54] <Varak_> did you try nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig
[00:54] <Juventino> guys
[00:54] <Juventino> ??
[00:54] <Miesco> Is there a repository for ubuntu where you can get kmencoder and stuff?
[00:54] <gaintsura> __ryan__: I figured as much, but its better to be safe imo
[00:54] <Varak_> i think i had to install the nvida driver as well
[00:55] <N1N31NCHN41L5> mneptok:  there is nothing to screenshot - when it downloads the installer tool after tool downloads it all just dissapears and nothing is left - i tried to open software sources and it gave that error after asking for password then software sources does Nothing now - sudo ls just brings up anopther prompt line in the terminal - again nothing to show
[00:55] <Varak_> but those things should let you do that
[00:55] <__ryan__> i have 1 gig of ram and even with compiz going i don't even touch my swap space lol
[00:55] <troxor> !resolution
[00:55] <MrElendig> __ryan__: compiz dosn't use mutch system ram
[00:55] <Zeroyez> err, where can I find these logs?
[00:55] <Juventino> guys, any idea why i may get no sound?
[00:55] <jameslr> Zeroyez: start with /var/log/messages
[00:55] <gaintsura> __ryan__: http://pastebin.com/d78a09f2f  this is a log of the half hour leading up to my reboot
[00:56] <Jack_Sparrow> what the
[00:56] <N1N31NCHN41L5> mneptok:  did that make sence???
[00:57] <Zeroyez> Jun 17 19:55:09 zeroyez-desktop kernel: [ 1648.617323] nautilus[6143]: segfault at 00000000 eip 00000000 esp b62c825c error 4
[00:57] <Zeroyez> aha
[00:57] <jedimind> is wine 1.0 in repos yet ?
[00:57] <N1N31NCHN41L5> mneptok:  i can't even add a repository to the list of software sources
[00:58] <__ryan__> gaintsura,  it could be those acip errors i guess
[00:58] <gaintsura> thats kind of what I thought, but how do I find out whats causing them?
[00:59] <jameslr> Zeroyez: create another user and try to gksudo as another user some other process. if it works with the other user then it's likely something in root's home directory
[00:59] <N1N31NCHN41L5> I cant open software sources or synaptics manger at all - Please Anyone HELP
[00:59] <__ryan__> gaintsura, edit your grub menu.1st file and add defoptions= noapic
[00:59] <__ryan__> then try reboot and see if it happens still
[01:00] <Zeroyez> okay
[01:00] <jameslr> Zeroyez: but if you're getting kernel segfaults it's likely a driver of some sort, maybe video?
[01:00] <newbeginer> when i boot live cd from cd-rom i get a message squashfs.error
[01:00] <bazhang> N1N31NCHN41L5, open a terminal
[01:00] <Juventino> hmm
[01:00] <N1N31NCHN41L5> bazhang:  Open
[01:01] <pgreptom> Hello.  I'm running a desktop I put together.. but I'm having problems.  When I hibernate, I resume.. and have no sound; same for suspend.  same for "s2disk" from uswsusp.  Google is turning me up empty.  Anyone have any ideas, or what tags to search for?
[01:01] <Zeroyez> well it was the new kernel update that caused them
[01:01] <Juventino> so no one here got any idea about why u may get no sound???
[01:01] <MrElendig> N1N31NCHN41L5: check that no pkgmanager are running, then kill the lock file
[01:01] <newbeginer> does it means the live cd i burn is broken or my cd-rom cannot run?
[01:01] <bazhang> N1N31NCHN41L5, cat /etc/apt/sources.list and past to paste.ubuntu.com
[01:01] <jameslr> Zeroyez: were you using custom drivers that you didn't install from repo?
[01:01] <gaintsura> __ryan__: isn't that supposed to be acpi ??
[01:01] <Zeroyez> nope
[01:01] <N1N31NCHN41L5> MrElendig: how do i do that???
[01:01] <jameslr> Zeroyez: boot previous kernel and see if the problem clears up
[01:01] <MrElendig> N1N31NCHN41L5: man ps
[01:01] <Zeroyez> Oh, I've got virtualbox guest additions
[01:02] <jameslr> Zeroyez: that could do it
[01:02] <Zeroyez> Since half the time I'm always running ubuntu from an vmdk file on VBox on Windows
[01:02] <__ryan__> gaintsura,  yes soryr
[01:02] <__ryan__> sorry
[01:02] <Zeroyez> But I've never had a problem till this darn kernel upgrade
[01:02] <N1N31NCHN41L5> MrElendig:  ok i typed man ps have a users man
[01:02] <__ryan__> gaintsura,  is it a laptop?
[01:02] <__ryan__> toshiba?
[01:02] <gaintsura> yes its a laptop
[01:03] <__ryan__> is it toshiba by chance?
[01:03] <gaintsura> ...
[01:03] <gaintsura> what the hell.. are you psyhic?
[01:03] <gaintsura> lol
[01:03] <__ryan__> haha i know the problem
[01:03] <gaintsura> ?
[01:03] <__ryan__> gaintsura,  my girlfriends toshiba was doing the same thing with vista
[01:04] <glitsj16> newbeginer: it could mean a badly burned cd yes, did you check the md5 during the install ?
[01:04] <Zeroyez> be right back logging in on a different user
[01:04] <jameslr> Zeroyez: kernel upgrades are pretty major. Ubuntu is pretty aggressive with kernels, but then again i'm used to enterprise linux distros
[01:04] <newbeginer> i don know how to check md5
[01:04] <gaintsura> __ryan__:  ok, how do i fix it?
[01:04] <__ryan__> gaintsura,  i had to disable the power saving settings to fix it.
[01:04] <gaintsura> ??
[01:04] <newbeginer> does nero speed can test the md5???
[01:04] <__ryan__> had to make it always 100% cpu power even while on battery
[01:04] <gaintsura> like disable ALL power saving?
[01:04] <__ryan__> yes
[01:05] <gaintsura> care to point me in the direction?
[01:05] <glitsj16> newbeginer: it's in the menu option when the live cd boots up, i think near the bottom, something like 'check cd for errors'
[01:05] <adamb_>  How could I tell if a server has booted back up from an unexpected shutdown?
[01:05] <mneptok> adamb_: ping
[01:05] <__ryan__> gaintsura,  i never did it for linux but i garuntee that's your problem, i bet that noacpi during boot will do it though
[01:05] <gaintsura> ok
[01:05] <jameslr> adamb_: check last
[01:06] <reteph> (does i just chime in if i'm looking for help?)
[01:06] <__ryan__> i'm sure there's lots on google
[01:06] <legend2440> open /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname files and make sure hostname matches 2nd line in hosts fileN1N31NCHN41L5:
[01:06] <glitsj16> newbeginer: don't know nero speed, the install cd has that menu option, very easy
[01:06] <gaintsura> __ryan__: actually I noticed that a lot of distros dislike acpi on my laptop
[01:06] <mneptok> gaintsura: noacpi will not work, unless you are using an old bversion of Ubuntu
[01:06] <adamb_> jameslr: and I should look for user reboot?
[01:06] <gaintsura> mneptok: Hardy
[01:06] <legend2440> open /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname files and make sure hostname matches 2nd line in hosts file
[01:06] <N1N31NCHN41L5> bazhang:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/21016/
[01:06] <__ryan__> gaintsura,  i'm not sure if toshiba has a fix for it yet but they didn't a few months ago when i was trying to fix my gf's
[01:06] <jameslr> adamb_: yeah
[01:06] <__ryan__> i would call their tech support
[01:06] <mneptok> gaintsura: the "noacpi" kernel parameter has been deprecated in favor of "acpi=off" so use that instead
[01:06] <legend2440> N1N31NCHN41L5: open /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname files and make sure hostname matches 2nd line in hosts file
[01:06] <gaintsura> ok
[01:06] <adamb_> it should be the last user to login, yes?
[01:07] <newbeginer> when i put in the live cd...there got three button
[01:07] <arooni> is there a way to send faxes via ubuntu thru the internet (as i dont have a fax card or fax line)?
[01:07] <jameslr> it should have a "reboot" entry
[01:07] <gaintsura> mneptok, __ryan__: thats in /boot/grub/menu.lst right?
[01:07] <__ryan__> yeah but do what he said ;)
[01:07] <bazhang> N1N31NCHN41L5, what happens when you sudo apt-get update (ie what error does it give)
[01:07] <metalpres> how do i overwrite ff2 with ff3 on gutsy?  i dont want to have copies of both
[01:08] <__ryan__> oh and gaintsura  if you call toshiba, i wouldn't tell them you're using linux when it happens lol
[01:08] <newbeginer> there not such check disk button.
[01:08] <gaintsura> __ryan__: trust me, I know lol, I'm pretty sure I already voided the warranty
[01:08] <Zeroyez> yeah i've still got the problem when logged on as a different user
[01:08] <gaintsura> I put acpi=off at the end of the kernel line right?
[01:09] <Zeroyez> I also tried restarting my computer and booting into a different version kernel and it still happens
[01:09] <__ryan__> gaintsura,  it must be a known issue by now maybe there's a bios patch
[01:09] <jameslr> Zeroyez: the idea was not to login to another user it was to use gksudo to run a program as another user
[01:09] <glitsj16> newbeginer: there are some tips on this page http://www.linuxfortravelers.com/check-the-ubuntu-file-for-errors .. are you on a windows machine right now ?
[01:09] <Zeroyez> oh :|
[01:09] <newbeginer> yes,
[01:09] <N1N31NCHN41L5> bazhang: josh@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get update        [sudo] password for josh:
[01:09] <N1N31NCHN41L5> josh@ubuntu:~$
[01:09] <__ryan__> first thing i did was get rid of sudo lol, i can't stand it
[01:09] <N1N31NCHN41L5> it just rolls right back to the prompt
[01:09] <genii> Looks like empty sources.list
[01:10] <gaintsura> __ryan__: I'm supposed to put acpi=off at the end of the kernel line right?
[01:10] <Zeroyez> It still immediately closes when I run something as another user
[01:10] <glitsj16> newbeginer: ok, there are plenty of md5sum checkers freely available for windows, that page mentioons a few you can try on the .iso you downloaded
[01:10] <__ryan__> gaintsura,  i'm not really a grub expert but that sounds right, ask in #grub
[01:10] <newbeginer> Graphical MD5Sum izzit?
[01:11] <genii> gaintsura: acpi=off   or else noacpi
[01:11] <gaintsura> __ryan__: alright, I'm gonna go try this, thanks for the help, I'll brb
[01:11] <__ryan__> no problem, it will work lol
[01:11] <Zeroyez> Although when running something from gksudo as another user I get this:
[01:11] <Zeroyez> cannot open display:
[01:11] <Zeroyez> Run 'nautilus --help' to see a full list of available command line options.
[01:11] <glitsj16> gaintsura: you might want to check the 'lapic' option as well if thats mentioned in your logs
[01:11] <derenrich> I setup ssh-keys on my computer to avoid typing in my passwod, but now I have to type my passphrase _and_ my password. What do i change on the remote machine to fix this?
[01:11] <legend2440> N1N31NCHN41L5: open /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname files and make sure hostname matches 2nd line in hosts file  so it should say     <IP_ADDRESS>    <hostname>
[01:12] <reteph> any advice on shutdowns during seemingly random parts of 8.04 installation on a dell latitude d810 laptop?
[01:12] <glitsj16> newbeginer: yes, that's one you can use
[01:12] <marinica> I want a yahoo mess client that has support for webcam and mic
[01:12] <marinica> who can help me please
[01:12] <N1N31NCHN41L5> bazhang: legend2440: i dont have a hosts or hostname folder in etc.......
[01:13] <jameslr> Zeroyez: I'd still try to track it down from a driver perspective. Obviously the new kernel isn't behaving well with something if you're getting segfaults
[01:13] <legend2440> N1N31NCHN41L5: hardy?
[01:13] <newbeginer> okay, i need to go for work now...tonight i will check the iso image tht you ppl recomened for me just now. thanks for helping. good days!
[01:13] <newbeginer> bye
[01:13] <Gun_Smoke> N1N31NCHN41L5, You still can't sudo?
[01:13] <jameslr> Zeroyez: if you boot the previous kernel do you still get the error?
[01:13] <Pici> N1N31NCHN41L5: they are files, not folders
[01:13] <jameslr> Zeroyez: or crashes
[01:13] <Zeroyez> yes
[01:13] <Gun_Smoke> everything is a file :)
[01:13] <N1N31NCHN41L5> legend - gutsy - trying to upgrage and this is whats in my host.conf # The "order" line is only used by old versions of the C library.
[01:13] <N1N31NCHN41L5> order hosts,bind
[01:13] <N1N31NCHN41L5> multi on
[01:13] <jameslr> Zeroyez: what does uname -r output?
[01:14] <N1N31NCHN41L5> Gun_Smoke:  is still screwed
[01:14] <Gun_Smoke> bummer
[01:14] <Zeroyez> 2.6.24-19-generic
[01:14] <jameslr> Zeroyez: did you try the previous kernel?
[01:14] <Zeroyez> yes...
[01:14] <joshual> hey folks trying to figure out how to have my toucpad turn off when i plug in a mouse, and turn back on when i unplug it... there are some things about this in the forum but very poorly documented...
[01:15] <jameslr> Zeroyez: /var/log/messages say anything else strange?
[01:15] <legend2440> N1N31NCHN41L5: /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname  are files not folders.
[01:15] <N1N31NCHN41L5> yea - dunce moment - i posted what is in my host.conf in here
[01:15] <Zeroyez> nope, just Jun 17 20:10:56 zeroyez-desktop kernel: [  271.274952] nautilus[5746]: segfault at 00000000 eip 00000000 esp b631325c error 4
[01:16] <Zeroyez> oh wait, Jun 17 20:07:16 zeroyez-desktop dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.reason
[01:16] <Zeroyez> and a bunch of eth0 related errors
[01:16] <RogueX> hi people how do i install themes?
[01:16] <RogueX> orange one is horrid
[01:17] <bazhang> !themes | RogueX
[01:17] <legend2440> N1N31NCHN41L5: so you don't have a file named just hosts in the /etc folder?
[01:17] <jameslr> Zeroyez: and this is happening with any application?
[01:18] <Zeroyez> anything run as a different user that has a graphic interface
[01:18] <Zeroyez> actually, i don't know I haven't tried anything non graphical as a different user
[01:19] <reteph> help, please?
[01:19] <jameslr> Zeroyez: trash the /tmp/gconfd* /tmp/orbit-root
[01:20] <jameslr> Zeroyez: the /tmp/gconfd-root rather
[01:20] <pwolfe> why is it that when I install the nvidia driver from their site, it is over written upon a reboot?  i have tried installing with envy, thats even worse
[01:20] <Juventino> guys, when u run speaker-test the speakers work alright, but i still get nothing in X
[01:20] <jameslr> Zeroyez: not all of them
[01:20] <stewy__> night all
[01:20] <N1N31NCHN41L5> legends - i found the files :D
[01:20] <stewy__> got a question, i'm trying to do a ./configure for the qtella installation
[01:20] <Zeroyez> hmm that'd be sudo rm -r /tmp/gconfd-root/* ?
[01:21] <stewy__> however when i run the ./configure i get an error saying it cant locate the qt header files though i know i have them install
[01:21] <stewy__> ed
[01:21] <jameslr> Zeroyez: sudo rm -rf /tmp/gconfd-root should do it
[01:21] <Zeroyez> okay
[01:21] <dougb> is there an easy way to connect to a secure webdav in ubuntu 8.04?
[01:21] <dougb> i've tried looking on google and ubuntuforums.org with no success
[01:22] <Zeroyez> done
[01:22] <Flannel> dougb: What are you trying to access via webdav, and what is your definition of secure?
[01:22] <dougb> Flannel username and password
[01:22] <legend2440> N1N31NCHN41L5: can you paste the hosts and hostname files?
[01:23] <jameslr> Zeroyez: try it again??
[01:23] <dougb> i read on ubuntu forums that the only method of webdav 8.04 supports out of the box is to connect to a webdav with guest support
[01:23] <dougb> or with a guest account
[01:23] <elllaxxx> does anyone know how to hack myspaces?
[01:23] <bazhang> http://www.howtoforge.com/webdav_with_ssl_and_two_factor_authentication dougb
[01:24] <Drk_Guy> Hi guys!
[01:24] <bazhang> elllaxxx, not here
[01:24] <yitz_> Hi peoples. I got Debian but am thinking of switching th Ubuntu, Debian takes too long to release and the Deb unstable is too unstable. Can I just switch repos and start upgrading packages? Or would that really not work?
[01:24] <stewy__> ... no help :(
[01:24] <elllaxxx> OH MAN
[01:24] <elllaxxx> where?
[01:24] <Drk_Guy> Im having a little problem
[01:24] <Flannel> dougb: oh, sorry, you want to conenct to one, not set one up.  Right. There's a number of things you can add: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=webdav&searchon=all&suite=hardy&section=all (a lot of those will be libraries/server related0
[01:24] <bazhang> elllaxxx, no idea; offtopic here
[01:24] <Zeroyez> nope still happens
[01:24] <genii> dougb: There has been a bug filed against this with Nautilus https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/222532   (although launchpad is currently unavailable)
[01:24] <Flannel> yitz_: It may work, but isn't supported, no.
[01:24] <jameslr> Zeroyez: sorry man I'm outta ideas.
[01:24] <Drk_Guy> I've just done a clean Gutsy install with the alternate CD, but i cant configure eth0 so i can enable Firestarter, what can i do?
[01:25] <Zeroyez> I'll try booting inside virtualbox and see if anything good happens
[01:25] <mabus3ac> hi
[01:25] <sEbAsTiAnFfX> How can i install firefox 3 in ubuntu ffrom a package?
[01:25] <bazhang> elllaxxx, please dont PM me about this as it is offtopic and I have no idea
[01:25] <reteph> installation issue with random shutdowns sprinkled throughout the process.   should i ask about it here or just go for it on the forums?
[01:25] <yitz_> Flannel: That sounds very non-commital ;) Any idea is people did it?
[01:25] <stewy__> wat kind of package sebastian?
[01:25] <IdleOne> sEbAsTiAnFfX, you cant
[01:25] <sEbAsTiAnFfX> :O
[01:25] <sEbAsTiAnFfX> :(
[01:25] <mabus3ac> is there an expert on installing?
[01:25] <Drk_Guy> I've just done a clean Gutsy install with the alternate CD, but i cant configure eth0 so i can enable Firestarter, what can i do?
[01:25] <genii> Drk_Guy: man interfaces           will show you examples of entries you can make in the file /etc/network/interfaces        to declare your ethernet devices
[01:25] <Flannel> yitz_: It's noncommital because it probably wont work ;)  No, I dont know of anyone who has done it.
[01:25] <IdleOne> sEbAsTiAnFfX, wait a few days and there should be a package soon
[01:26] <sEbAsTiAnFfX> but there will be a package soon?
[01:26] <sEbAsTiAnFfX> ok
[01:26] <stewy__> can somebody help me with the qtella install?
[01:26] <sEbAsTiAnFfX> thanks
[01:26] <Drk_Guy> Any command to configure ip adress and the like?
[01:26] <stewy__> sebastian the package is available in synaptec package manager
[01:26] <Drk_Guy> genii, i need to configure static IP
[01:26] <stewy__> the install is available
[01:26] <IdleOne> stewy__, firefox 3.0?
[01:26] <dougb> ok thanks you guys, i'm working with a bunch of kids right now so i'll go back to that page you provided Flannel
[01:26] <genii> Drk_Guy: Yes, the manpage covers those examples as well.
[01:26] <bazhang> !install | mabus3ac
[01:26] <sEbAsTiAnFfX> stewy, but is RC
[01:26] <sEbAsTiAnFfX> is not the final
[01:26] <dougb> and i'll keep an update on that launchpad page genii
[01:26] <N1N31NCHN41L5> legend2440:  paste in here????
[01:26] <yitz_> Flannel: Probably not? Oh well. I guess I'm gonna stick with Deb for the while. Maybe get backports... Thanks for your time!
[01:27] <bazhang> sEbAsTiAnFfX, the final is in repos; should hit your mirror soon.
[01:27] <legend2440> N1N31NCHN41L5: no in pastebin
[01:27] <emorris> hi, even if I leave the root account disabled, should I still give it a password with sudo passwd, otherwise it can be accessed in recovery mode?
[01:27] <stewy__> yes its the final
[01:27] <legend2440> !paste
[01:27] <IdleOne> bazhang, really ahh wow that was quick
[01:27] <genii> dougb: Should be back up soon, it's a few minutes overdue to come back from some maintenance
[01:27] <gaintsura> __ryan__: I ran acpi=off and that REALLY did not go well with my system. Also, something that clicked during that ordeal, at boot after selecting my OS, I get a bug notice.. let me see if I can find it
[01:27] <stewy__> also synaptic also updated it automatically for me
[01:27] <bazhang> IdleOne, thankfully so :)
[01:28] <IdleOne> bazhang, hehe I hear you
[01:28] <jameslr> emorris: securing a box from physical access is a challenge. No password security will give complete peace of mind
[01:28] <mabus3ac> i just finished building my computer, put a install disc in to get an os on it, but it cant load it. i tried like 4 distro but none will work...
[01:28] <bazhang> mabus3ac, did you set in bios to boot from cd first?
[01:28] <ravtux> have you tried a live cd mabus?
[01:28] <jameslr> emorris: trust your users or...don't let them access the machine :P
[01:28] <keithclark> Hi everyone...anyone know how to setup a scanner?  Mine used to work before the 8.04 upgrade and I'm not sure how to get it back.
[01:28] <Flannel> emorris: No.  You shouldn't give it a password.  Physical access to a system is doom for security.
[01:28] <t35t0r> where is "man 2 dup" ?
[01:28] <stewy__> i cant install qtella :(
[01:28] <mabus3ac> it starts booting from cd. it even shows the loading bar for ubuntu
[01:29] <mabus3ac> but then it crushes
[01:29] <bazhang> mabus3ac, then md5 the iso
[01:29] <Drk_Guy> genii, There is a GUI config utility available, but which is the cmd for running it?
[01:29] <emorris> jameslr, Flannel: is there any harm in giving it a password though?
[01:29] <mabus3ac> md5?
[01:29] <N1N31NCHN41L5> legend2440: http://paste.ubuntu.com/21019/
[01:29] <bazhang> !md5 | mabus3ac
[01:29] <reteph> i have the same issue as mabus3ac
[01:29] <swansk> Firefox update today?
[01:29] <jameslr> emorris: not really. as long as the password is secure
[01:29] <Flannel> emorris: You'll be enabling the root account
[01:29] <bazhang> reteph, then see ubottu link above
[01:29] <t35t0r> where are all the programming man pages?!!?
[01:29] <stewy__> when i do the ./configure on qtella it says it cant find the qt header files but i have the qt header files installed
[01:29] <reteph> md5'ed everything.
[01:29] <bazhang> swansk, yes to final
[01:29] <reteph> it's all correct.
[01:29] <__ryan__> gaintsura, did your system still boot?
[01:30] <bazhang> reteph, then do integrity check on disk
[01:30]  * swansk 's update manager at work
[01:30] <gaintsura> __ryan__:  yes, however it disabled A LOT of stuff
[01:30] <BUBOY> hello, i need help, I was beeing stupid today and did su and tried userdel root, and now i can't boot up
[01:30] <emorris> jameslr, Flannel: really? I thought you could just leave it disabled but set a password
[01:30] <jameslr> since when is root 'disabled'?
[01:30] <legend2440> N1N31NCHN41L5: did you find "hostname" file in /etc? and does it say ubuntu in there?
[01:30] <jameslr> it has a shell...
[01:30] <__ryan__> gaintsura, yeah there must be another way
[01:30] <N1N31NCHN41L5> legend2440: and ALL it says in hostname is ubuntu
[01:31] <Flannel> emorris: No, its disabled, or it has a password.  If you wanted, I suppose you could set up a password at the GRUB prompt.  But again, access to a physical system meansyou can circumvent any sort of security put into place
[01:31] <Zeroyez> everything's working fine when I run Ubuntu from a vmdk on virtualbox
[01:31] <stewy__> *sigh* ahh being ignored... such a fun activity
[01:31] <Flannel> jameslr: Always
[01:31] <Zeroyez> I can do gksudo and everything
[01:31] <soundray> jameslr: the root account is locked. You can get a root shell with sudo -i
[01:31] <mabus3ac> i did that integrity check , and it finds a problem, but i dont realy see why it should be on 5 cds
[01:31] <emorris> jameslr: sorry, i meant like loging in to gnome or a login shell
[01:31] <reteph> bazhang:  this is the second disk i've tried.  they checked out. i also tried my old 5.10 disks that were official disk from ubuntu.  same issue.
[01:31] <Flannel> mabus3ac: You need to burn it slower.  4x is recommended.
[01:31] <IdleOne> bazhang, remind me what the command to see what version package is installed?
[01:31] <emorris> Flannel: OK, thanks
[01:31] <bazhang> stewy__, just saying cant do it will get little help; we need exact errors, what you tried, what tutorial you were following etc
[01:31] <Flannel> IdleOne: apt-cahe policy package
[01:31] <genii> Drk_Guy: When there is no entries in the /etc/network/interfaces     normally networkmanager is giving an icon which you can use.
[01:31] <IdleOne> Flannel, thanks was the policy part I forgot lol
[01:32] <mabus3ac> well, ill try. but is it normal that all 5 cds run on my old computer and not on my new one?
[01:32] <Drk_Guy> genii, Cant find it
[01:32] <legend2440> N1N31NCHN41L5: ok thats right. sorry i thought that might be the problem. sometimes hosts and hostname files don't match and it causes problems like yours.. but not the case here
[01:32] <Flannel> mabus3ac: Have you tried the alternate CD?
[01:32] <bazhang> mabus3ac, no that is not normal
[01:32] <genii> Drk_Guy: I'm curently on KDE so I can't easily guide you on where to find it
[01:32] <N1N31NCHN41L5> no - and i am SOOOOOOOO lost
[01:32] <gaintsura> __ryan__: I cant find the bug notice anywhere =\
[01:32] <IdleOne> Flannel,  3.0~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 0 is FF3.0 final?
[01:32] <JFlash> guys i need help
[01:32] <mabus3ac> no i tried ubuntu, ubuntu 64 , kubuntu, mandriva and knoppix
[01:32] <JFlash> i have this ubuntu cd
[01:33] <legend2440> N1N31NCHN41L5: problem just started?
[01:33] <bazhang> mabus3ac, the alt cd or the minimal perhaps then
[01:33] <mabus3ac> all but u64 run on my old one
[01:33] <stewy__> bazhang i got the qtella file as a tar.gz file. Did the tar xvzf thing and its now extracted. Im trying to run the configure now but it wont run
[01:33] <JFlash> i setup the computer to boot from the cd drive
[01:33] <JFlash> but it wont fire the installation
[01:33] <t35t0r> it was in manpages-dev !
[01:33] <Flannel> IdleOne: No, that's beta5.  hardy-updates has rc1, and final will be out soon-ish (before 8.04.1)
[01:33] <Drk_Guy> genii, I dont knwo how, but it disappeared
[01:33] <arooni> is there a way to send faxes via ubuntu thru the internet (as i dont have a fax card or fax line)?
[01:33] <bazhang> JFlash, give us the whole question on one line please-->easy on the enter key
[01:33] <soundray> mabus3ac: could the CD drive be faulty?
[01:33] <JFlash> anyway i can trigger ubuntu installation from the command line ?
[01:33] <stewy__> bazhang the error i get is "qt headers not found. If you have installed Qt in an unusual place, please use the "--with-qt-includes=" option
[01:33] <N1N31NCHN41L5> first time i tried to upgrade or add software repositories was today
[01:33] <soundray> arooni: there are OS-independent services for that
[01:34] <swansk> I am going to assume today's  firefox update isn't all that different from what I have been using on Ubuntu.
[01:34] <genii> Drk_Guy: You could try running it by: alt-f2      then: networkmanager
[01:34] <mabus3ac> i suspect my building skillz to be faulty
[01:34] <IdleOne> Flannel, bazhang said it was already up but he may have been mistaken or maybe my mirrors havent been updated yet
[01:34] <gaintsura> is there a way to pause boot up?
[01:34] <reteph>  the issue comes up randomly throughout installation.. i've seen some stuff on the forums possible relating to "intel_rng:  FWH not detected" but i'm not sure how to deal with it.
[01:34] <bazhang> stewy__, you compiling from source? be sure build-essential is installed
[01:34] <jameslr> arooni: www.efax.com?
[01:34] <gaintsura> or even be able to see EVERYTHING that is output by the system from the time you select an OS to boot
[01:34] <N1N31NCHN41L5> legend2440:   first time i tried to upgrade or add software repositories was today
[01:34] <JFlash> how can I bootstrap the livecd from the command line please. It's not booting on startup for some reason
[01:34] <legend2440> N1N31NCHN41L5: maybe if you post your problem here again someone will have an idea
[01:34] <mabus3ac> i ll finish for today... thx for your help
[01:35] <Drk_Guy> genii, Found cmd, network-admin
[01:35] <jameslr> arooni: drivetoyourneighborhoodkinkos.com
[01:35] <Flannel> arooni: There are also programs in the repos: efax (with efax-gtk), anda number of other applications: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=fax&searchon=names&suite=hardy&section=all
[01:35] <stewy__> bazhang yes i have build-essential installed and yes im compiling from source, it was the only method available
[01:35] <Hodge> Is gnome better than kde?
[01:35] <N1N31NCHN41L5> my problem is i cant upgrade or ANYTHING that comes from a menu and asks for a password is denied
[01:35] <Drk_Guy> WTF?
[01:35] <Flannel> Hodge: No, they're different.
[01:35] <IdleOne> !best | Hodge
[01:35] <bazhang> Hodge, offtopic here; please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:35] <ravtux> i want to ask a stupid question, how do you phonetically say ubuntu?   you bun tuh?
[01:35] <Drk_Guy> I started network-admin with gksu, but it wont let me modify values
[01:36] <glitsj16> swansk: not much no, i guess you shouln't notice any changes, besides some extensions (add-ons) you might have installed that are still not compatible
[01:36] <Drk_Guy> :(
[01:36] <Flannel> ravtux: oo-boon-too
[01:36] <ravtux> ty :-)
[01:36] <reteph> so, try alternate cd install and then come back and get further assistance if that doesn't work?
[01:36] <soundray> arooni: where are you located?
[01:36] <arooni> soundray, seattle, wa
[01:37] <bazhang> reteph, well you could put some boot params in like acpi=off and remove quiet and splash to see all the error messages
[01:37] <FireFlyFan> I am looking to format my HDD to NTFS rather then Fat32 how would I got about this?
[01:37] <soundray> arooni: there are plenty of US-based email-to-fax services
[01:37] <arooni> soundray, any free?
[01:37] <reteph> okay.  thank you.  i'll give all of those a try.  have a good night to those who helped.
[01:37] <stewy__> bazhang i tried running ./configure --with-qt-includes but i dont know wat to put after the = sign
[01:38] <jameslr> FireFlyFan: best done in windows...just use the GUI tools to format it as NTFS
[01:38] <ASULutzy> FireFlyFan: You can just fdisk
[01:38] <soundray> arooni: probably. Some of the UK ones are free.
[01:38] <FireFlyFan> yeah I lack windows at the moment which is why I am asking....
[01:38] <jameslr> ASULutzy: fdisk doesn't format the drive, just partitions it.
[01:38] <ASULutzy> jameslr: You can create a new partition and set the file system type to ntfs, no?
[01:38] <Bizzeh> hey, how difficult is it to alter the ubuntu boot splash logo?
[01:39] <jameslr> ASULutzy: yeah, but I dare you to write a file to that resulting drive...
[01:39] <soundray> !usplash | Bizzeh
[01:39] <jameslr> ASULutzy: or mount it for that matter
[01:39] <solexious> [Q] What is the sudo apt-get command to auto remove stuff i dont need?
[01:39] <ASULutzy> jameslr: Really that bad huh?
[01:39] <soundray> solexious: sudo apt-get autoremove
[01:39] <ASULutzy> jameslr: You can't just set the id to 7 and then write it?
[01:39] <BUBOY> hey guys i need help i accidently deleted root
[01:39] <solexious> soundray: Thank you
[01:39] <jameslr> ASULutzy: no, you have to create a proper filesystem on it first.
[01:39] <soundray> BUBOY: what exactly did you delete?
[01:39] <stewy__> another problem i'm having, how do i get rid of the msg on start up that says "undefined video mode 31b"
[01:40] <ASULutzy> jameslr: oh of course
[01:40] <BUBOY> soundray: i was being dumb, and did userdel root
[01:40] <legend2440> N1N31NCHN41L5: does      sudo -i   work in terminal?
[01:40] <ASULutzy> jameslr: I was saying fdisk it to set the partition and then use mkfs.ntfs
[01:41] <ASULutzy> jameslr: http://linux.die.net/man/8/mkfs.ntfs
[01:41] <gaintsura> MP-Bios Bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC <--- anyone know what thats all about? (I'm googling now(
[01:41] <BUBOY> now it gives me sudo: no passwd entry for root!
[01:41] <soundray> BUBOY: you can probably boot from a live CD and fix it.
[01:41] <jameslr> ASULutzy: it's just preference I guess. I wouldn't use a windows utility to make an ext3 filesystem
[01:41] <BUBOY> ok, thanks
[01:41] <ASULutzy> jameslr: I'll agree with you here that it's probably safer to use windows
[01:41] <jameslr> ASULutzy: that's all I was saying. Not that you couldn't do it. I know you can format NTFS on linux. just scary though...
[01:41] <soundray> BUBOY: you need to mount your root directory and edit /mnt/etc/passwd (you can use the live system's /etc/passwd as a model)
[01:42] <gaintsura> __ryan__:  you may have been right with the noapic as apposed to acpi=off
[01:42] <Karsynoma> Just a quick question, has there been any progress in terms of getting the ATI drivers to work for Hardy by any chance? Previously, the Catalyst 8.4 driver for my x1650 worked fine under Gutsy, but not so much with Hardy/Elyssa.
[01:42] <gaintsura> hey IndyGunFreak ^_^
[01:42] <BUBOY> thank you guys
[01:42] <IndyGunFreak> gaintsura: how's it going..
[01:42] <jameslr> Karsynoma: gl with that one. I have yet to get my Catalyst drivers working in Hardy with DRI
[01:43] <__ryan__> gaintsura,  why's that
[01:43] <ASULutzy> Karsynoma: my desktop has a 2900XT and uses the fglrx drivers just fine
[01:43] <gaintsura> not bad, I'm getting closer to solving my lock problems... it seems there is a memory leak in something
[01:43] <__ryan__> i think apic is more so power management
[01:43] <__ryan__> i'm not sure
[01:43] <ASULutzy> Karsynoma, jameslr: Though I haven't tried dual-head on the desktop
[01:43] <gaintsura> __ryan__: MP-Bios Bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC <-- that and a post on linuxquestions.org
[01:43] <jameslr> ASULutzy: are you getting DRI to work properly? compiz and the like?
[01:43] <gaintsura> IndyGunFreak: not bad, figuring out my locking problem, seems to be a memory leak/hog
[01:43] <ASULutzy> jameslr: Compiz works just fine on my desktop
[01:43] <IndyGunFreak> gaintsura: purple?
[01:43] <ASULutzy> jameslr: Again, using a 2900XT
[01:44] <glitsj16> __ryan__: that's acpi
[01:44] <gaintsura> IndyGunFreak: I'm not sure exactly what the memory leak/hog is, I never get a chance to find out before I fully lock up
[01:44] <mellery_> irc://irc.rizon.net/KaizouFansubs
[01:44] <jameslr> ASULutzy: what does your fglrxinfo output? mine is using MesaGL...I need to fix that. I still can't get the damned DRI to work though.
[01:44] <ASULutzy> jameslr: I did have to write a custom script to rewrite /proc/mtrr in order to get fglrx to work with 4 gb or more of ram... That was absolutely brutal, but other than that
[01:44] <gaintsura> glitsj16: then what is apic ?
[01:44] <jameslr> ASULutzy: I had to uninstall all compiz otherwise I would get a white screen
[01:44] <IndyGunFreak> gaintsura: ok, i  think i know who you are..lol, i didn't recognize the nname
[01:44] <getBoa> does anybody here have the RTL8187 wireless card???
[01:44] <soundray> gaintsura: advanced programmable interrupt controller
[01:44] <gaintsura> =P
[01:44] <ASULutzy> jameslr: I wonder if your problem is related to what mine was... Do you have >3.2GB of ram?
[01:44] <glitsj16> __RYAN__: not sure, but i think that is a BIOS related system
[01:44] <gaintsura> soundray: ahh ok
[01:44] <jameslr> ASULutzy: no, just 2GB
[01:45] <IndyGunFreak> gaintsura: well i wouldn't have thought of a memory leak, thats for sure..
[01:45] <gaintsura> soundray: is it viable to disable it if its causing problems?
[01:45] <jameslr> ASULutzy: are you running 32bit? or 64?
[01:45] <JFlash> how can I bootstrap the livecd from the command line of another distro please? It's not booting on startup for some reason
[01:45] <ASULutzy> jameslr: 64 bit on the desktop
[01:45] <Karsynoma> The whole issue is a bit frustrating. I naively thought that the Catalyst 8.5 driver would somehow solve this issue, but my effort was in vain. That was a 54MB or so download, and I'm on dial-up. I nearly yanked my hair out.
[01:45] <soundray> gaintsura: yes
[01:45] <gaintsura> IndyGunFreak: me either, I caught it out of the corner of my eye on my task bar, swap and physical were full up
[01:45] <__ryan__> gaintsura, either way your problem is the power settings for your cpu's, not sure how to disable it though
[01:45] <IndyGunFreak> gaintsura: hmm
[01:45] <gaintsura> soundray: ok, so it would be noapic right?
[01:45] <ish_nitti> irc://irc.omgirc.com/chatzone
[01:45] <nspryspartan> hey any one here has firefox3 yet?
[01:45] <jameslr> ASULutzy: I have an X850 Pro. A bit older than your card...should still work.
[01:45] <soundray> gaintsura: yes
[01:45] <gaintsura> ^_^ thanks soundray
[01:45] <ish_nitti> nspryspartan, yeah i just updated it
[01:45] <IndyGunFreak> gaintsura: ok, so it wasn't my fault, i t was your fault for not giving me enougth info..lol
[01:46] <ASULutzy> jameslr: I can't unfortunately get the output of fglrxinfo from here
[01:46] <ish_nitti> nspryspartan, a quick sudo apt-get update will get you FF3
[01:46] <nspryspartan> well can i get some help on it?
[01:46] <gaintsura> IndyGunFreak: =P I didn't evne know it was happening until about an hour ago lol
[01:46] <nspryspartan> ohh ok i try it. thank you ish!
[01:46] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[01:46] <ASULutzy> jameslr: I'm in class on my laptop which has an Intel integrated card... I can ssh to my box at home but no way to get fglrxinfo output to work right
[01:46] <jameslr> ASULutzy: I see
[01:46] <ASULutzy> jameslr: I guess I could set up a VNC server, but it's probably easier to just wait till I get home
[01:46] <soundray> ish_nitti: that won't get you any new packages
[01:47] <gaintsura> soundray, __ryan__: I'm gonna go try this, I shall brb!
[01:47] <ish_nitti> soundray, but should pop up the update notification for them
[01:47] <ASULutzy> jameslr: You can either write me an email address/send me a forum message, my name on the ubuntu forums is ASULutzy
[01:47] <ASULutzy> jameslr: And I'll be happy to give you the output of my fglrxinfo
[01:48] <pierd> hello, is there a way to install ubuntu from the console, avoiding to load X and all that?
[01:48] <jameslr> ASULutzy: i've been hanging out in here. I don't browse forums often. Thanks though
[01:48] <soundray> !alternate | pierd
[01:48] <illriginal> ANyone know how to check if you have java? There's a site that streams music and my firefox browser doesn't respond to the music player which is java based
[01:48] <ASULutzy> jameslr: Well if I see you in #ubuntu again I'll be sure to give you the output (:
[01:48] <Karsynoma> I suppose I'll bite the bullet and try the fglrx driver again. It failed to work in the Linux Mint RC1 beta, and I can only assume that it'll do the same again.
[01:48] <jameslr> illriginal: type java at a terminal?
[01:49] <ASULutzy> Karsynoma: Yea, fglrx sucks without a doubt, but it's generally workable
[01:49] <LordOllie> wow, 63 updates :/
[01:49] <illriginal> hold on james
[01:49] <soundray> illriginal: you need to check whether there is a Java plugin (load about:plugins as the URL) and make sure it's matched with your configured JRE (check with update-alternatives --list java)
[01:49] <Bizzeh> soundray: could i use the example in /usr/share/doc/libusplash-dev/examples, replace the images and build that one?
[01:50] <soundray> Bizzeh: probably
[01:50] <illriginal> jameslr, when I type java i get all kinds of output
[01:50] <Karsynoma> ASULutzy, no kidding, but at this rate, any sort of support for the 3d effects will be welcomed. This is getting absolutely annoying, so much so that I actually thought of reverting to either Linux Mint 4 or Gutsy to get the support back, not only for Compiz, but for a number of other applications.
[01:50] <jameslr> illriginal: tells you that the program 'java' can be found in several packages?
[01:50] <LordOllie> illriginal, instructing you on switches and options?
[01:50] <illriginal> yes sir
[01:51] <asmo[B]> I'm having problems getting my optical out to work for sound, is there a way to make sure that I have the right sound drivers? nothing fails when booting
[01:51] <illriginal> jameslr, im at this website:   http://www.610wiod.com/cc-common/ondemand/faq/
[01:51] <jameslr> illriginal: you can follow the instructions in the output: sudo apt-get install <selected packages>. I personally would download java from sun and install it
[01:51] <ASULutzy> Karsynoma: How are you installing the driver? I've used Envy and it's worked well, and I've also download the binary from ati.com and generated the hardy package and installed that and it worked
[01:51] <illriginal> it's the audio player on the upper left hand corner.
[01:51] <glitsj16> illriginal: for java browser support you will need java plugin, have you installed one ?
[01:52] <scragar> anyone any idea when virtualbox will have latest kernel supported for 64 bit?
[01:52] <illriginal> glitsj16, im not sure, that's what im trying to figure out. I have firefox 3 beta
[01:52] <ASULutzy> scragar: They generally lag behind a few days before a suitable module is available for the most cutting edge kernel
[01:52] <Karsynoma> ASULutzy, the binary from the ATI website. I've tried both versions 8.4 and 8.5, both of which have failed for Hardy/Elyssa.
[01:53] <ASULutzy> scragar: I had to use -17 for about a week before modules for -18 became available
[01:53] <ASULutzy> Karsynoma: Try Envy?
[01:53] <jameslr> illriginal: like soundray suggested: go to "about:plugins" in the address bar of Firefox.
[01:53] <ASULutzy> !envy | Karsynoma
[01:53] <Karsynoma> ASULutzy, the Envy route is tempting... but guess who has dial-up? This guy!
[01:53] <ASULutzy> Karsynoma: Heh, sometimes you have to suffer ;)
[01:53] <glitsj16> illriginal: enter about-plugins (with a ":" instead of a "-") into the urlbar and you can see (the ":" is just there because otherwise a smiley pops here to make it unreadable, not to mess around lol)
[01:54] <Elrox> power just got knocked out and now cant log in, says nick already in use,,, how do i fix?
[01:54] <jameslr> illriginal: by default you won't have it most likely. Just download java from sun and install it. You'll need to link the plugin from the distribution to the plugins directory for firefox. I think that's /usr/lib/mozillaplugins
[01:54] <Karsynoma> ASULutzy, time to troll the internets before taking that dive. Thanks for the assistance.
[01:54] <jameslr> er /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[01:55] <LordOllie> Elrox, /msg nickserv ghost <nick> <password>
[01:55] <illriginal> jameslr, i did the about : plugins
[01:55] <scragar> ASULutzy: OK, thanks for the info.
[01:55] <illriginal> I see that java is installed, jameslr
[01:55] <Elrox> TY LordOllie
[01:55] <LordOllie> Elrox, np
[01:55] <jameslr> then you should be good to go
[01:56] <ASULutzy> Karsynoma, scragar: no problem :)
[01:56] <illriginal> would you be able to go to this site and see if the stream player works? http://www.610wiod.com/cc-common/ondemand/faq/
[01:56] <IdleOne> illriginal, restart firefox also and try the site again
[01:56] <illriginal> maybe the site is having problems? not sure...
[01:56] <sjovan> how can you update your nokia n82 sofware, when then prog you supose to use only suprt osx and win?
[01:56] <jameslr> illriginal: sorry, I don't have java installed.
[01:56] <illriginal> understood.
[01:57] <gaintsura> ok, noapic got rid of the bug notice... lets see how that affects my locking problem ^_^
[01:58] <dabbill> The background on my conky is shifted up some. Any one know of a way to fix this?
[01:58] <jenjen> hi!!!!!!
[01:58] <jenjen> oops. wrong window
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> gaintsura Which bug notice did noapic fix for you?
[01:58] <illriginal> hm... can I just re-install java?
[01:58] <ASULutzy> Heh, Jack_Sparrow do you ever leave here? :P
[01:58] <jameslr> illriginal: why?
[01:58] <gaintsura> MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC
[01:58] <ASULutzy> Jack_Sparrow: You're in here more than me and I was here 12 hours ago ;)
[01:58] <nspryspartan> hi i need to know how is Firefox 3 ?
[01:59] <jameslr> illriginal: try other java apps on the web
[01:59] <gaintsura> nspryspartan: its not bad, I've got it right now, just put it on yesterday
[01:59] <illriginal> jameslr, because I don't think my java is working properly =\
[01:59] <Vedestin> fine, thanks for asking, nspryspartan
[01:59] <jenjen> I'm trying to get wireless working in ubuntu 8.04 on a Compaq Presario F700 with no luck so far
[01:59] <nspryspartan> well i not sure if i have it?
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> ASULutzy the most I have been here is 20 hrs in a day
[01:59] <asmo[B]> nspryspartan: I found FF3 kind of slow, switched back to 2
[01:59] <Vedestin> firefox 3 was wondering how you are actually, nspryspartan
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> gaintsura thanks.. just for my notes
[01:59] <IdleOne> illriginal, the stream is not working for me either
[01:59] <ASULutzy> Jack_Sparrow: What are they paying you? :P
[01:59] <nspryspartan> cause i have firefox 2 still on the application list.
[02:00] <Vedestin> i use firefox 3 on ubuntu
[02:00] <Vedestin> it's good, i don't know what your problem was asmo[B]
[02:00] <nspryspartan> and i got the update for it. and on the website it replaces firefox 2
[02:00] <illriginal> IdleOne, ok thanks... I was hoping it was just their site.
[02:00] <JRiZ> JenJen I have the compaq Presario v2000 all I did was install wifi-radar from the repos
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> ASULutzy I wish
[02:00] <gaintsura> Vedestin: if you used it on any other system you wouldn't be here >=P
[02:00] <nspryspartan> so i not sure if i have it.
[02:00] <asmo[B]> Vedestin: maybe it's the drugs
[02:00] <gaintsura> Jack_Sparrow: NP
[02:00] <IdleOne> illriginal, well all that proves is that we both cant listen. does not mean that site is down. but it's a start
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> JRiZ wifi radar has caused some issues in the past..
[02:00] <jenjen> JRiZ, i have all that installed, however it does not detect any wireless devices
[02:01] <scifiguy951> how can i speed things up??
[02:01] <gaintsura> Jack_Sparrow: now, I can only hope that it fixed my system lock issue
[02:01] <nspryspartan> so any advice plez i really  like Firefox and thunderbird.
[02:01] <JRiZ> hmmm thats weird I been using it for like 5 months now and no problems, at the time I didnt know of any other options
[02:02] <nspryspartan> and also why is it every time i look at videos or just brows the web it closes like nothing?
[02:02] <asmo[B]> nspryspartan: you never really asked a question... except how is it, and you got 3 opinions, one negative, one positive and one sarcastic
[02:02] <jenjen> in fact i don't really see what type of benefit wifi-radar would do for my situation
[02:02] <dabbill> The background on my conky is shifted up some. Any one know of a way to fix this?
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> scifiguy951 Speed what things up...  in general.. turn off effects.. they can really slow down a system
[02:02] <nspryspartan> sorry well asmo how can i get it then?
[02:02] <stega> hey all
[02:03] <JRiZ> jenjen I just picked my connection from the frop down list in wifi-radar once and it saves it all and auto connects me.
[02:03] <asmo[B]> nspryspartan: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[02:03] <JFlash> the installer is offering me 2 options:  "erase entire disk: xxx " or "Erase entire disk and use LVM: xxx " .. Which one should I pick/
[02:03] <JFlash> ?
[02:03] <nspryspartan> thank you.
[02:03] <stega> does IO::Socket perl module work on Ubuntu 8.04?
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> JFlash How are you trying to install what version of what software
[02:03] <jenjen> lspci says this about the wireless device "03:00.0 Ethernet Controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[02:04] <JRiZ> jenjen did u let hardware manager install the firmware?
[02:04] <gaintsura> jenjen: ndiswrapper is your best bet
[02:04] <jenjen> JRiZ no drivers are being loaded into the kernel for my device
[02:04] <nspryspartan> well i guess i allready had it.
[02:04] <nspryspartan> but thanks asmo.
[02:04] <jenjen> gaintsura, can you please explain what i do with ndiswrapper? i have no experience with ndiswrapper
[02:04] <JRiZ> jenjen try what giantsura posted
[02:05] <gaintsura> jenjen: what is your specific atheros card?
[02:05] <slayton> So I have a machine that is dual boot RHEL and Ubuntu, but for network reasons the machine has the same name in the two boots, but when I SSH into the 2nd OS I get the following error: WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!  and a bunch of other things.... is there anyway to avoid checking of the fingerprint or two add more then one fingerprint to a computer name?
[02:05] <JFlash> JFlash: breeze badger
[02:05] <lakis1982> hi ... i had windwos vista and i made a second partition and i installed kubuntu .. when i press the power button the pc starts and gives me a list so that to select which OS i want to start ... at first ita has kubuntu and then windows vista .. how can i change this to show first windows vista and then kubuntu ???
[02:05] <asmo[B]> nspryspartan: when you right click on the icon and go to properties does it say 'firefox-3 %u' ?
[02:05] <JFlash> Jack_Sparrow: Breeze badger
[02:05] <JFlash> live cd
[02:05] <Drk_Guy> Hi guys
[02:05] <Drk_Guy> I have a question
[02:05] <jenjen> gaintsura, its an internal wifi card, lspci says it is an AR242x 802.11abg
[02:05] <scifiguy951> what else can i do?
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> JFlash Why install something that is already past end of life
[02:05] <glitsj16> stega: i only have libio-socket-ssl-perl, that works just fine
[02:06] <Drk_Guy> Why Firestarter keeps on blocking connections to X port, if its supposed to be open?
[02:06] <slayton> lakis1982, you need to edit your grub conf file its located at /etc/grub/menu.lst  back up a copy of the current file before you start editing it, Just change the order that they are listed as in the file
[02:06] <gaintsura> jenjen: ok, hang on one minute
[02:06] <jenjen> gaintsura, it is not my computer so im not really at liberty to open it up and read the numbers on the physical device
[02:06] <Drk_Guy> Why Firestarter keeps on blocking connections to X port, if its supposed to be open?
[02:06] <gaintsura> no need
[02:06] <scifiguy951> ???
[02:06] <JFlash> Jack_Sparrow: I'm downloading the most recent but it will take me almost a day
[02:06] <stega> glitsj16, for some reason I can't get output back once it connects I tried running a packet trace with Wireshark
[02:06] <slayton> RSA host key for xx.xx.xx.xx has changed and you have requested strict checking.  <---- is there anyway to block this message? I don't want strict checking on certain IPS
[02:06] <slayton> ips
[02:06] <Drk_Guy> and why it says eht0 is not ready?
[02:06] <neeto> I want to rename a volume on my machine, but I can't simply right click on the icon to rename it. How do I rename a volume using the CLI?
[02:07] <Jack_Sparrow> JFlash I politely suggest installing badger is a waste of your time
[02:07] <lakis1982> hold on please slayton
[02:07] <jrib> neeto: you want to change the label?  or you want to change the mount point?
[02:07] <gaintsura> jenjen: I'm pulling up the guide right now, will paste the link in a moment
[02:07] <nspryspartan> nope just firefox browser
[02:07] <neeto> jrib: the label
[02:07] <jrib> neeto: depends on the filesystem
[02:07] <jenjen> gaintsura, thank you very much
[02:07] <neeto> jrib: ntfs
[02:07] <glitsj16> stega: did you install it via apt or via cpan ? not that i can explain the trouble you have but my experience is that the ubuntu packages work
[02:08] <gaintsura> jenjen: no worries, I had to go through the same thing with my system
[02:08] <stega> apt
[02:08] <stega> what packages do I need to install?
[02:08] <jenjen> ooooh
[02:08] <jrib> neeto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[02:08] <stega> shouldn't it work right out the box?
[02:08] <neeto> jrib: thanks
[02:08] <jameslr> slayton: just mount the / partition from the other OS and copy the /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key to the corresponding directory.
[02:08] <dabbill> The background on my conky is shifted up some. Any one know of a way to fix this?
[02:08] <slayton> jameslr great! thanks
[02:08] <Drk_Guy> Why Firestarter keeps on blocking connections to X port, if its supposed to be open?
[02:08] <Drk_Guy> And why it says eht0 is not ready?
[02:08] <glitsj16> stega: the naming schemes are different, but easy enough if you get the pattern, look for libio-..., there are quite a few in Synaptic
[02:09] <jameslr> slayton: they might be in a different location on RHEL.
[02:09] <jenjen> dabbill, have you checked the man page?
[02:09] <scifiguy951> how can i speed my comp up with out doing physical changes
[02:09] <Travis3XL> exit
[02:09] <scifiguy951> ??
[02:09] <locohost> disable some processes
[02:09] <Travis3XL> XD
[02:09] <dabbill> jenjen, cant find any info on this problem
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> scifiguy951 Speed what things up...  in general.. turn off effects.. they can really slow down a system
[02:10] <jenjen> dabbill, post a screenshot somewhere so i can see what you are talking about please
[02:10] <jameslr> slayton: nope they're exactly the same location. So just copy the files over. ssh_host*
[02:10] <scifiguy951> speed it up so things load faster mainly
[02:10] <asmo[B]> can I run gparted off the cd while in ubuntu already?
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> scifiguy951 how much ram do you have
[02:10] <jameslr> slayton: you'll need to remove any reference from your client machines that reference the old keys though...they're cached
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> asmo[B] yes
[02:11] <scifiguy951> idk??
[02:11] <slayton> jameslr, how do I do that?
[02:11] <pablo> buenas noches alguien de argentina?
[02:11] <jrib> !es | pablo
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> asmo[B] you mean form install os using cd as repo?
[02:11] <jameslr> slayton: if they're linux hosts then they're in ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[02:11] <scifiguy951> how can i find out?
[02:11] <josspyker> Drk_Guy: pm me,this channel is so busy
[02:11] <asmo[B]> Jack_Sparrow: thanks, should've checked for a package first anyway
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[02:11] <scifiguy951> and how can make it so things such as torrent dl faster?
[02:11] <stega> glitsj16, is the while loop in perl to print default output once socket connects: while(<$sock>) { print $_; } ?
[02:12] <Jack_Sparrow> scifiguy951 you may have a network card that needs a tweek
[02:12] <slayton> jameslr, right ok... i've been doing that to ssh in anyway... every time i switch the OS I have to remove .ssh/known_hosts on other machines that want to connect
[02:12] <dabbill> jenjen, http://dabbill.no-ip.info/Pictures/Screenshot-7.png    look at the top part of conky, the pic doesnt line up right
[02:12] <Mo853425ru37> back
[02:12] <slayton> jameslr: but other then copying over those files in ubuntu I won't need to do any more local changes...
[02:12] <jameslr> slayton: nope
[02:12] <glitsj16> stega: you assumed because i know how to install a perl lib that i know perl :) i only needed it for ssl support in checkgmail .. can't judge to be honest
[02:12] <slayton> jameslr: THANKYOU!
[02:13] <scifiguy951> ???
[02:13] <jameslr> slayton: you bet
[02:13] <stega> glitsj16, sorry =P thanks for the help
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> scifiguy951 for starters.. what exactly does lsb_release -a show you when typed in a terminal?
[02:13] <gaintsura> jenjen: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=800686 follow that to the T and you will be fine
[02:13] <jameslr> stega: what are you doing?
[02:13] <glitsj16> stega: very welcome, hoped it knew perl though, goodluck with debugging your problems
[02:13] <Flannel> glitsj16: You know checkgmail is in the repos, right?
[02:13] <jenjen> thank you gaintsura
[02:13] <stega> jameslr, i'm just trying to make something that connects to a web server and prints out the response I can't get it working in ubuntu
[02:14] <gaintsura> certainly jenjen
[02:14] <stega> i can pastebin the source
[02:14] <glitsj16> Flannel: yep, but without ssl support
[02:14] <slayton> does installing firestarer close ports? Or is firestart just a GUI frontend to the built in firewall?
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[02:14] <jameslr> stega: go ahead. I can take a look at it
[02:14] <Innopeor> Hi, i have need to know informations/descriptions about linux network interfaces, where i can find a guide?
[02:14] <gaintsura> slayton: the latter of those
[02:14] <slayton> ok thats what I thought....
[02:15] <stega> http://pastebin.com/d4581da34
[02:15] <stega> jameslr, http://pastebin.com/d4581da34 that should work shouldn't it?
[02:16] <prologic> Hi all. I'm a vision impaired user on Ubuntu 8.04, I'm using Compiz and the Enhanced Desktop zoom plugin for usability. I have a problem with font rendering though ( and rendering in general ). WHen zoomeing in a fair bit, text looks horrible and barely readable. How can I improve this ?
[02:16] <glitsj16> Flannel: that's actually a problem in my opinion, how many users go through their logs to find that out ? checkgmail falls back to regular http so you won't notice .. you won't happen to know if and where one could 'report' or suggest to make that a dependency ?
[02:16] <dabbill> jenjen, do you see what i am talkin about?
[02:16] <SuperQ> prologic: You should be able to set more readable font sizes by default without need for zooming
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> scifiguy951 Thanks for not pasteing into the channel but next time please use the pastebin
[02:16] <Tonglebeak> hi, i have a question. i'm currently running gentoo, and got another hard drive that i have mounted and blah blah blah. anyways, i wanted to run the kubuntu install cd (mount -o loop) from gentoo (i can't seem to find any blank CDs), and thought i should be able to do this...but i'm not sure how to go about it. the slave hdd i installed today is where i want kubuntu to go...i have the cd mounted already...anyway of doing this?
[02:17] <scifiguy951> how do i use it?
[02:17] <bazhang> !iso
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Tonglebeak common question.. but the answer is no
[02:17] <jrib> !install > Tonglebeak (read the private message from ubottu)
[02:17] <stega> jameslr, what do you think?
[02:17] <jrib> Tonglebeak: see if any of the methods there will work for you
[02:17] <jenjen> dabbill, it looks like it is getting run before the rest of the desktop finishes loading, try running it seperately or add a wait to the start script
[02:18] <bobbob1016> I want to install Hardy on a thumb drive for a friend, I found this on the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent I'm not sure if I read it correctly, does that mean I can install on a thumb drive through the normal installer?
[02:19] <dabbill> jenjen, it starts doing it after a few days of the computer being up
[02:19] <dabbill> jenjen, i can kill conky and restart it all i want and it still does it till i reboot the computer
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> bobbob1016 persistent mode usually means you run live and changes to the setup are saved to the usb
[02:19] <prologic> Super: I tend to need everything zoomed. Not just fonts - or I'd stick with a framebuffer console :) (my colleages won't like that!) :)
[02:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !usb
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> bobbob1016 See also pendrivelinux.com
[02:20] <bobbob1016> Jack_Sparrow, I saw a few things there, but I wasn't sure if it meant you could go just from the thumb drive, thanks.
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[02:21] <gaintsura> does anyone know if there is a firewall similar to Comodo? Comodo is open source, but not linux supported =(
[02:21] <Flannel> glitsj16: Well, https is supported in the Hardy version at least (its a depends)
[02:21] <lakis1982> something else please ... can i play games of windows in linux .. i mean games like fifa , assassins creed , grand theft auto  etc ... ???
[02:21] <gallifrey> lakis1982, some games check out winehq.com
[02:22] <gaintsura> lakis1982: best way to do so is via wine or a virtual box
[02:22] <gallifrey> !wine
[02:22] <stega> Can someone please tell me why this doesn't work under Ubuntu? http://pastebin.com/d4581da34
[02:22] <jameslr> stega: what exactly are you trying to do? just print the output of opening an http socket to google?
[02:22] <Omlette> Wine, yep.
[02:22] <gallifrey> !AppDB | lakis1982
[02:22] <stega> jameslr, yes
[02:22] <stega> jameslr, the program just hangs =/
[02:22] <glitsj16> Flannel: checkgmail is written in perl and if the perl ssl lib is installed, it uses it, justed wanted to point that out, wans't holding you responsible personally :)
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> stega You should find a programming channel
[02:22] <Felonious> ok so if avidemux cannot open xvid/divx/mpeg what good is it?
[02:23] <stega> Jack_Sparrow, k
[02:23] <lakis1982> what is virtual box?
[02:23] <jenjen> dabbill, im not familiar enough with conky to really know, try posting on their forums or finding a conky related irc channel
[02:23] <SeaPhor> LordOllie, ty again!
[02:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !vbox
[02:23] <gaintsura> lakis1982: a virtual system running over your already running system
[02:23] <lakis1982> dows it work ?? i will be able to play fifa 2008 , and farcry ?
[02:23] <LordOllie> SeaPhor, no problem. I think I though I don't remember what I did. :(
[02:24] <gaintsura> lakis1982: I wouldn't know specifically, but I'm pretty sure it would work
[02:24] <gaintsura> brb
[02:24] <SeaPhor> lol LordOllie i was Elrox,,, my power went off
[02:24] <dabbill> jenjen, thanks i will check out the conky channel
[02:25] <LordOllie> SeaPhor, ahh. Now I remember. :)
[02:25] <jenjen> dabbill, sorry i couldn't help, good luck
[02:25] <lakis1982> how do i install it ?
[02:25] <martianlobster> can someone recommend a good book on learning ubuntu, and maybe debian?
[02:25] <dabbill> jenjen, NP atleast ya tried :)
[02:25] <SeaPhor> LordOllie, did fine on this box, but not for wife,,, she had to re-boot
[02:26] <loner269> yawn
[02:26] <LordOllie> SeaPhor, I normally ghost before registering a nick to kill off any other instances of myself. BitchX is nice like that though.
[02:27] <Vixus> hey, is there any reason why lspci isn't showing my wireless network card?
[02:27] <genii> Vixus: Perhaps it's USB?
[02:28] <Vixus> no, no, I definitely stuck it in there..
[02:28] <SeaPhor> LordOllie, cool, i'll keep that in mind, TY again (i use xchat, yeah...its easy)
[02:28] <LordOllie> Vixus, it is not pci
[02:28] <mib_b6hjoi> Howdy! I've got a GRUB question. How do I configure boot so that, instead of booting to GNOME, Ubuntu starts up sans splash screen and dumps me to a tty?
[02:28] <Vixus> i'm sure it is.
[02:28] <LordOllie> oops too slow on the guess
[02:28] <mib_b6hjoi> Also, how do I get GRUB to dump me in a tty with a custom resolution (1024x600)?
[02:29] <SeaPhor> Vixus, try lshw -C network
[02:29] <Vixus> i have a belkin usb wireless dongle connected too but no luck there..
[02:29] <LordOllie> did you lsusb ?
[02:29] <Vixus> no.. i wasn't really into it to be honest..
[02:30] <Vixus> it's ubuntu studio and i was wondering whether to switch to 64 studio instead..
[02:30] <psych> is there a way to get this final version of ff3 via ubuntu repo ?
[02:31] <LordOllie> psych, sudo apt-get update
[02:31] <mouseboyx> psych the RC3 and Final are the same version.
[02:31] <Flynsarmy> To add a cron job do i do 'crontab -e' then enter stuff there?
[02:31] <gaintsura> back
[02:31] <klikz> anyone using ubuntu on a enterprise lvl
[02:32] <Stage3> Flynsarmy, can add a file to /etc/cron.d/ directory too
[02:32] <jameslr> mib_b6hjoi: do you always want to boot to command line?
[02:32] <IndyGunFreak> gaintsura: any joy?
[02:32] <mib_b6hjoi> jameslr: Not permanently--I'd like GUI to be an option
[02:32] <Flynsarmy> Stage3: If i do crontab -e how do i add a line? It doesn't work like nano
[02:32] <gaintsura> IndyGunFreak: so far so good... seems to be running decently, not lagging or anything
[02:33] <IndyGunFreak> gaintsura: so you actually got installed?
[02:33] <mib_b6hjoi> jameslr: For the next few days I'll be using it primarily as a console, and I'd like a nice resolution
[02:33] <gaintsura> IndyGunFreak: ???
[02:33] <mib_b6hjoi> jameslr: And fonts, too--but that's my next goal :-)
[02:33] <Stage3> Flynsarmy, I preffer to edit with nano and add the file to that directory
[02:33] <IndyGunFreak> gaintsura: weren't you having the issue that you couldn't get installed, because the partitioner didn't see the hard drive?
[02:33] <gaintsura> IndyGunFreak: nope
[02:33] <gaintsura> wasnt me
[02:34] <gaintsura> I was just having X lockups
[02:34] <Stage3> Flynsarmy, you caan do
[02:34] <IndyGunFreak> gaintsura: sorry, confused youl...
[02:34] <gaintsura> lol again
[02:34] <Stage3> Flynsarmy,  crontab file.txt too
[02:34] <Flynsarmy> Stage3: Thtat'll add a new one?
[02:34] <gaintsura> IndyGunFreak: could you recommend a good firewall for ubuntu thats similar to Comodo Firewall?
[02:34] <lockd> mib_b6hjoi: that's nothing to do with GRUB
[02:34] <gaintsura> I'm not digging iptables/firestarter
[02:35] <IndyGunFreak> gaintsura: i don't like software firewalls, never have used one, even on windoze
[02:35] <Stage3> Flynsarmy, do this: crontab -l >> file.txt
[02:35] <IndyGunFreak> gaintsura: i just properly confiugure a hardware firewall, and trust it.
[02:35] <gaintsura> IndyGunFreak: if I could, I would =)
[02:35] <Stage3> Flynsarmy, then add the new line to the end
[02:35] <SeaPhor> i want to install text-based browser elinks (i think) and all its dependencies, but cant remember the flag to do the dependencies,,,
[02:35] <IndyGunFreak> gaintsura: understood.
[02:35] <mib_b6hjoi> lockd: Some of it is, apparently--http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=258484&highlight=grub+resolution has a table which lets you choose a resolution
[02:35] <LordOllie> arghh, anyone else having awn give them focus restoring issues with dual monitors?
[02:36] <Stage3> Flynsarmy,  crontab -r // for reset crontab
[02:36] <klikz> nope did initially but figured it out
[02:36] <psych> whats venkman ?
[02:36] <Stage3> Flynsarmy, nex do this crontab file.txt
[02:36] <klikz> no problems with dual monitors any more
[02:36] <lockd> mib_b6hjoi: and then you don't want the Desktop Manager to start, correct?
[02:36] <LordOllie> it worked fine until the update today and now it is being a piece of junk
[02:37] <klikz> switched from solaris 10 x86 and have not had a problem since
[02:37] <IndyGunFreak> anybody noticed in the last kernel upgrade, appears a lot of issues w/ pulse audio got worked out
[02:37] <gaintsura> IndyGunFreak: what kernel?
[02:37] <Stage3> Flynsarmy, what do you want to do with cron?
[02:37] <LordOllie> I click the icon of the app and it doesn't come into focus unless it is on the primary
[02:37] <Haackendo> helo
[02:37] <Boaz_Visions> hi
[02:37] <IndyGunFreak> gaintsura: -19 i do believe..
[02:37] <IndyGunFreak> i upgrade it this morning
[02:37] <Haackendo> indraaaaaaa
[02:37] <mib_b6hjoi> lockd: Yes. Basically the same as Ctrl-Alt-F1, login, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:37] <Wazz> anyone use enlightenment regularly
[02:37] <gaintsura> yeah, actually I noticed when I close amarok it now stops it from playing
[02:37] <Wazz> ?
[02:38] <todd> Can someone help me set up my ubuntu pc to allow windows pc's to remote desktop in???
[02:38] <klikz> nah too much customization with enlight
[02:38] <klikz> rather use something that works out of the box
[02:38] <IndyGunFreak> gaintsura: most of my probs, related to flash.. if i play a flash video, it would cut out all other sounds..
[02:38] <Wazz> ahh
[02:38] <mib_b6hjoi> todd: Try looking into VNC.
[02:38] <Keith12125> IndyGunFreak: I have that problem, how did you fix it?
[02:39] <Varak_> todd: you'll probably have to open a port in your router
[02:39] <todd> mb: I did but the google/ubuntu docs did not work
[02:39] <IndyGunFreak> Keith12125: it seems like th ekernel upgrade this morning fixed it.
[02:39] <Ahadiel> todd, System => Preferences => Remote Desktop
[02:39] <Keith12125> IndyGunFreak: lol I still havn't restarted
[02:39] <todd> varak_: win to win works same router
[02:39] <IndyGunFreak> Keith12125: ..lol.
[02:39] <IndyGunFreak> well
[02:39] <Ahadiel> todd, Enable that then get the tightvnc viewer for Windows.
[02:39] <todd> Ahadiel: did that did not work
[02:40] <IndyGunFreak> Keith12125: like i said, thus far, it appears its resolved.
[02:40] <Ahadiel> todd, Why not?
[02:40] <Haackendo> hahahaha
[02:40] <Haackendo> hahhahahah
[02:40] <todd> Ahadiel: No I want to enable a PC to "remote desktop", not "tight vnc"
[02:40] <lockd> mib_b6hjoi: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch10s06.html
[02:41] <mib_b6hjoi> lockd: thanks
[02:41] <todd> an someone help me set up my ubuntu pc to allow windows pc's to remote desktop in???
[02:41] <greeg> hi
[02:41] <greeg> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYmADPVEqU4
[02:42] <Ahadiel> todd, First of all, VNC IS remote desktop.
[02:42] <jrib> greeg: we like to keep this channel dedicated to ubuntu support only since it is so busy.  Mind moving your discussion over to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[02:42] <shingen> I thought VNC stood for virtual network computing :P
[02:42] <lockd> mib_b6hjoi: that'll let you disable GDM, then you just have to add vga=[option] to the kernel
[02:42] <gaintsura> omg... help me turn off system beep *kicks it* its disabled and still beeping
[02:43] <shingen> and VNC is like Remote Desktop :)
[02:43] <todd> Ahadiel: OK, so how do I set up my VNC so windows remote desktop can connect?
[02:43] <mib_b6hjoi> lockd: Where do I find those VGA options for my specific resolution (1024x600)?
[02:43] <shingen> todd: You download a VNC client to connect to your VNC server... it's not REMOTE DESKTOP
[02:43] <m_newton> Hello! Whats up! :) Que pasa amigo!
[02:43] <Ahadiel> todd, I just told you before.
[02:43] <jameslr> gaintsura: sudo modprobe -r pcspkr
[02:44] <m_newton> Thanks a lot! Appreciate all who helped! :) Cheers!
[02:44] <gaintsura> thanks jameslr =)
[02:44] <todd> Ahadiel: ok, how do I do it? windows remote desktop does not seem to connect, is there some config I need to do?
[02:44] <gaintsura> system beep reminds me of a dialup modem
[02:44] <lakis1982> something else please ... can i play games of windows in linux .. i mean games like fifa , assassins creed , grand theft auto  etc ... ???
[02:45] <clintchance> Is ther a ubuntu website manager here?
[02:45] <jameslr> gaintsura: to disable it permanently edit your /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file to include a line that says "blacklist pcspkr"
[02:45] <mib_b6hjoi> lakis1982: maybe. look up WINE
[02:45] <lakis1982> i ahve some folders in a local disk
[02:45] <glitsj16> lakis1982: via wine yes
[02:45] <clintchance> I need soeone to remove my profile,, I've forgotten my pass and my email has changed
[02:45] <lakis1982> how do i place their shortcuts on desktop?
[02:45] <clintchance> ljl?
[02:45] <lockd> mib_b6hjoi: not sure if there is a mode for that
[02:45] <IdleOne> clintchance, you mean on launchpad.net?
[02:45] <todd> shingen: OK, what is the server I need that is "windows remote desktop"?
[02:45] <nickrud> clintchance which profile?
[02:46] <clintchance> IdleOne Ubuntu Forums
[02:46] <nickrud> clintchance try in #ubuntuforums
[02:46] <clintchance> LOL
[02:46] <shingen> todd: what machine are you trying to remotely control and what OS?
[02:46] <clintchance> ubuntu has an irc for everything
[02:46] <jameslr> shingen: you're not going to be able to use the RDP protocol in linux I don't think. VNC is pretty much your only option
[02:46] <gaintsura> thanks again jameslr
[02:46] <lockd> mib_b6hjoi: you could try 1024x768 and if not go back to 800x600
[02:46] <Ahadiel> todd, Get TIGHTVNC VIEWER
[02:46] <m_newton> I have to go now. Be right back. like whenever i am free. Ya, soo a ok. This is a custompized message, that is why it is so long. I will see You later. On irc. Hopefully.
[02:46] <jameslr> gaintsura: sure thing
[02:47] <blankhead> why is it that the backward and forward buttons only work in firefox and not in the gnome/nautilus or anywhere else in the system?
[02:47] <gaintsura> anyone know of a guide/ tutorial for setting up iptables/firestarter I've just disabled it because I have so many problems with it
[02:47] <shingen> jameslr: true, you cannot run RDP on *nix, that's for sure
[02:47] <todd> shingen: I am trying to allow a WinXP machine "I dont control" to connect to my Ubuntu8 pc
[02:47] <blankhead> and i mean for the mouse
[02:47] <mib_b6hjoi> lockd: This is a subnotebook with a ~9" screen--I don't think it can take a 1024x768 resolution
[02:47] <lockd> mib_b6hjoi: those you can find by searching for "grub vga table"
[02:47] <jameslr> shingen: so use the correct verbage. You don't want to remote desktop to a linux machine. You want to VNC to a linux machine from Windows.
[02:47] <shingen> todd: you'll need to install a vnc client on the windowsxp machine
[02:48] <mody> mody_home
[02:48] <Stage3> gaintsura, the iptables tutoria is so good http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html
[02:48] <gaintsura> thanks Stage3
[02:48] <shingen> jameslr: so what did I say? :P
[02:48] <klikz> is iptables truly hardware firewall
[02:48] <clintchance> IdleOne on one will answer
[02:48] <gaintsura> klikz: not really
[02:49] <mib_b6hjoi> lockd: OK, 1024x600 doesn't seem to be supported. Anything else just looks distorted.
[02:49] <lockd> mib_b6hjoi: I just use maximized terminal in X
[02:49] <IdleOne> clintchance, patience is a virtue
[02:49] <todd> shingen: OK, they have "Windows Remote Desktop" installed, thats all I can get though, the ubuntu side is wide open though
[02:49] <jameslr> shingen: I think I started talking to the wrong person lol
[02:49] <glitsj16> klikz: iptables isn't a hardware firewall, just a damn good software one
[02:49] <mib_b6hjoi> lockd: I've seen something about a vesa-framebuffer--would that do it?
[02:49] <klikz> yes
[02:49] <klikz> agreed
[02:49] <jameslr> shingen: I think I was directing toward todd using your nick :/
[02:49] <lockd> mib_b6hjoi: probably not
[02:49] <mib_b6hjoi> lockd: I'd use a maximized terminal in X, but I want to maximize my battery life for an extended amount of time where I won't have access to a charger
[02:50] <mib_b6hjoi> lockd: My battery is shot and gives me about 40 minutes battery life under GNOME
[02:50] <mib_b6hjoi> I'm going on a 12 hour plane trip
[02:50] <mib_b6hjoi> No plugs
[02:50] <mib_b6hjoi> You do the math :-)
[02:50] <todd> jameslr: what?
[02:50] <klikz> anyone using ubuntu server in a production environment
[02:50] <jameslr> todd: nothing :)
[02:50] <SeaPhor> todd, RDP is a MS Windows service,,,,, not gonna happen on a linux box,,, windows box will have to use other client, as Ahadiel has been trying to tell you
[02:50] <shingen> todd: Ubuntu uses VNC for remote control.  Enabling Windows XP's remote desktop won't do crap for you, if you want to remotely control the Ubuntu server.
[02:51] <blankhead_> why does the backward and forward button on the mouse only work in firefox and not nowhere else in the ubuntu system.. in 7.04 and 7.10 they didnt work at all now in hardy they only work for firefox is there a way to fix this?
[02:51] <lockd> mib_b6hjoi: how much time will it last without X running?
[02:51] <mib_b6hjoi> lockd: about forty more minutes :-)
[02:51] <IdleOne> !mouse | blankhead
[02:51] <shelbyscates> hey guys, is anyone willing to help me pull off a mean prank to someone who deserves it?
[02:51] <mib_b6hjoi> barely anything, but I'll take what I can get
[02:51] <todd> SeaPhor: Is there an ubuntu RDP server?
[02:52] <klikz> yes yes if ther is a ubuntu rdp please share
[02:52] <IdleOne> shelbyscates, no.
[02:52] <glitsj16> shelbyscates: who are we to judge who dserves what ? no offense
[02:52] <dan_> under failsafe gnome direct rendering = Yes, however no direct rendering under normal gnome session
[02:52] <IdleOne> !ot | shelbyscates
[02:52] <shelbyscates> theres this guy trying to hack my website, he uses vista and he says that the ubuntu i run on my server is total crap, so he thinks hes going to enter my ip address into some stupid skript kiddie program and kill me ;)
[02:52] <shelbyscates> yeah i didnt think so
[02:52] <shingen> There is NO *nix RDP server... it's 100% microsoft proprietary
[02:53] <shelbyscates> i have been shamed
[02:53] <shingen> actually citrix proprietary :)
[02:53] <todd> shingen: OK then we are on differant pages, what do I have to install on ubuntu to allow a XP machine to "Windows Remote Destop" in?
[02:53] <jameslr> shelbyscates: log the abuse and report it to his ISP
[02:53] <dan_> video card: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[02:53] <dan_> running Hardy
[02:53] <SeaPhor> RDP is a Micro$oft service, in Windows,,,, no, "Remote Desktop Protocol", RPC, Remote procedure Call, None of that is gonna happen on a linux box
[02:54] <lockd> mib_b6hjoi: I know how annoying odd resolutions are, I have an Asus EEE
[02:54] <shingen> todd: remote desktop client on ubuntu to remotely control the XP machines
[02:54] <klikz> no os is bullet proof as we all no the only os that is is one not connected to anything
[02:54] <shingen> todd: gnome-rdp
[02:54] <mib_b6hjoi> lockd: this thing is a fujitsu lifebook p1510d with bizarre drivers
[02:54] <lockd> mib_b6hjoi: which is less than 800x600
[02:54] <todd> shingen no the reverse
[02:54] <Felonious> anyone here use avidemux?
[02:54] <mib_b6hjoi> lockd: even worse than 1024x600! :-)
[02:54] <shingen> todd: do you understand the concept of client-server architecture?
[02:55] <SeaPhor> todd, nor any of the dependencies that any of those services need, just have the windows boxes get the client that Ahadiel has been telling you
[02:55] <mib_b6hjoi> re RDP: http://xrdp.sourceforge.net/
[02:55] <darthanubis> which kernel are you guys using "generic or rt"?
[02:55] <todd> shingen: yes, I want an XP client, and a ubuntu server
[02:55] <shingen> todd: you have a server hosting stuff (e.g. web server) and you have a client that browses the content.
[02:55] <indra> generic
[02:55] <indra> new hardy
[02:55] <shingen> todd: you don't understand the concept of client / server relationships... XP can be a server and a client at the same time :P
[02:55] <asmo[B]> I know this is not the channel for it, but I am a damn good chef, best stir fry in the world
[02:56] <shingen> todd: the OS doesn't matter, it's who is serving what
[02:56] <Sn3ipen> how can i add a ftp client to lampp? like i had in xampp?
[02:56] <todd> shingen: no I get that, I dont understand why ubuntu does not have a "windows remote desktop" server
[02:56] <shingen> todd: when you're running RDP on your windows XP box, you're running an RDP SERVICE, for clients to connnect TO
[02:56] <shingen> todd: because bill gates is a greedy sonuvabitch and he won't license the technology out :P
[02:56] <Ahadiel> todd, Because RDP is lame and you should use VNC instead.
[02:56] <SeaPhor> shingen, but does that go both ways, he wants xp box to control a linux box?, not the other way?
[02:56] <darthanubis> is there a webpage where I can read on that?
[02:56] <Flannel> Sn3ipen: there's a number of ftp servers you can install, but: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[02:56] <jameslr> todd: because "ubuntu" would have to reverse engineer the RDP protocol to create said service...
[02:56] <IdleOne> todd, because bill gates is a cheap tight arse and does not like to share
[02:57] <todd> shingen: no I want my XP box to connect to the ubuntu server, you have it backwards
[02:57] <shingen> SeaPhor: I have no idea what he wants because he doesn't quite understand client / server relationships :P
[02:57] <Sn3ipen> Flannel: Thanks il try that
[02:57] <SeaPhor> shingen, yes, i'm with you there
[02:57] <Ahadiel> todd, I believe YOU have it backwards sir.
[02:57] <shingen> todd: You have two choices... install VNC Client on XP... or isntall RDP client on Ubuntu
[02:57] <todd> shingen: so there is no RDP server in ubuntu, I mean that has been around a while???
[02:57] <shingen> todd: do both and you won't be hurting :P
[02:58] <indra> I using vmware
[02:58] <shingen> todd: No, there is no RDP server for ubuntu, blame bill gates
[02:58] <indra> and i create virtual mashines
[02:58] <jameslr> Bill Gates doesn't work for MS anymore does he?
[02:58] <shingen> he's chairman of the board
[02:58] <todd> shingen: OK what does the windows box need to connect???
[02:59] <SeaPhor> OMG"
[02:59] <todd> shingen: this sucks!
[02:59] <shingen> todd: You have two choices... install VNC Client on XP... or install RDP client on Ubuntu
[02:59] <IdleOne> todd, there probably never will be RDP server in Ubuntu or any other distro. RDP is owned by Microsoft and they will not open the source code
[02:59] <mib_b6hjoi> IdleOne: http://xrdp.sourceforge.net/
[02:59] <klikz> rdp on ubuntu
[02:59] <klikz> works for me at work
[02:59] <todd> shingen: you got a url for vnc client???
[02:59] <IdleOne> well heck
[02:59] <mib_b6hjoi> IdleOne, shingen, todd... Play nicely :-)
[02:59] <mib_b6hjoi> Anything can be reverse engineered