[14:09] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[17:13] <mparillo> I was able to update https://userbase.kde.org/Falkon#Dictionaries to document how to get Falkon spell-checking to work on Kubuntu. Has anybody been able to get Konqueror spell-checking to work on Kubuntu?
[19:04] <RikMills> mparillo: soory. not tried
[19:05] <RikMills> konqeror should probably be allowed to die with dignity
[20:48] <mparillo> Konqueror (like Falkon and Qutebrowser(Qt, but not KDE)) gets upgrades via QtWebEngine
[21:45] <arraybolt3> I liked Konqueror, it's a shame that KHTML isn't maintained anymore.
[22:57] <valorie> arraybolt3: konqueror is one of the applications that sold me on KDE software in the early 2000s


[01:54] <astroo-> optimusprimem; sobre ele continuo sem saber nada
[02:26] <astroo-> Why Free Software Is More Important Now Than Ever Before  http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/09/why-free-software-is-more-important-now-than-ever-before/
[05:13] <astroo-> ciao pessoal
[17:06] <CarteBlanche> boa tarde
[21:10] <astroo-> ola pessoal


[00:06] <hubuntu> ok...
[03:06] <OpenDeb> Hi all from Argentina
[03:13] <boredandblogging> hello OpenDeb
[03:13] <OpenDeb> hi, seems to be on silence
[03:14] <OpenDeb> :)
[03:14] <OpenDeb> probably its not the apropiate hour
[03:14] <boredandblogging> friday or saturday, yeah
[03:15] <OpenDeb> yes, party time
[03:15] <OpenDeb> I am newcommer on ubuntu comm, but not in floss comm :)
[03:15] <OpenDeb> i came from Fedora Ambassadors worlds to new horizons here
[03:16] <OpenDeb> I am mouting a telecenter in Buenos Aires with Edubuntu, will be ready next maY
[03:16] <OpenDeb> but i have some ideas to share, that i learned from another communities that could be useful to spread the voice of Ubuntu
[03:16] <boredandblogging> OpenDeb: impressive
[03:16] <boredandblogging> that would be great
[03:16] <OpenDeb> hahaha, no, just another tear in the sea, but the sea is a lot of tears :)
[03:16] <boredandblogging> any help is appreciated
[03:17] <OpenDeb> cause I was an ambassador of Fedora, I learned a lot of how to spread the voice in regions specially mi reagion
[03:17] <OpenDeb> I was thinking in something like "Ubuntu Pilgrims"
[03:17] <boredandblogging> don't LoCos do that already?
[03:18] <OpenDeb> yes, but Locos, from my point of view are the technicall and reference place for newcommers
[03:18] <OpenDeb> but think about this
[03:18] <OpenDeb> some Loco members, taking some spare time to go to public schools, giving a small speech about freedom and technology bringing ubuntu to pupils
[03:18] <OpenDeb> something more "reactive"
[03:19] <OpenDeb> absoluted organized from Loco to local community ( in this case people with non technical knowledge)
[03:19] <OpenDeb> people when gets ubuntu go to the locos mailing list
[03:19] <OpenDeb> I did it with fedora last year in poor downtown in buenos aires
[03:19] <OpenDeb> with nice results
[03:20] <boredandblogging> try presenting that idea to your LoCo
[03:20] <OpenDeb> 20 schools never heard about Linux, and with this "spare time optimized"
[03:20] <OpenDeb> yes
[03:20] <OpenDeb> i will do it
[03:20] <boredandblogging> are you still a fedora ambassador?
[03:20] <OpenDeb> no
[03:21] <OpenDeb> i let my posicition
[03:21] <OpenDeb> last week
[03:21] <OpenDeb> I wrote about this to mark last night he sent me the congratulations of that will be pictures soon
[03:21] <boredandblogging> is there a reason you left? you don't have to discuss it
[03:21] <OpenDeb> yes, I have nothing to hide
[03:22] <OpenDeb> I have desagreements with Red Hat Local Management
[03:22] <OpenDeb> Fedora is a wonderfull community
[03:23] <boredandblogging> thats unfortunate
[03:23] <OpenDeb> yes, so sad, but I have a clear target in my oss life
[03:23] <OpenDeb> I know where i want to go
[03:23] <boredandblogging> good!
[03:23] <OpenDeb> anyway, all distros are part of the same family
[03:23] <boredandblogging> true
[03:24] <OpenDeb> but, on this time, i feel more confortable with Ubuntu., ( i am a ubuntu user since 2005)
[03:24] <OpenDeb> but about Pilgrims, just an humble idea, think of it
[03:24] <OpenDeb> one step ahead locos, like a "vangarde" of Loco teams
[03:24] <boredandblogging> you should definitely discuss it with your loco
[03:24] <OpenDeb> i will publish on brainstorming, but i dont know if this isi the right place, thats why i cam here
[03:24] <boredandblogging> and maybe try to the marketing mailing list
[03:25] <OpenDeb> yes of course
[03:25] <OpenDeb> I sign the CoC, but i coudlnt finde the mailing list of marketing
[03:26] <boredandblogging> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-marketing
[03:26] <boredandblogging> all ubuntu mailing lists can be found at lists.ubuntu.com
[03:26] <OpenDeb> thanks a lot
[03:26] <OpenDeb> theres a lot of sections in the site :)
[03:29] <boredandblogging> yeah, its a big site
[03:29] <OpenDeb> where are you from
[03:29] <boredandblogging> atlanta, georgia, usa
[03:30] <OpenDeb> buenos aires,
[03:31] <OpenDeb> in the extreme southside
[03:31] <boredandblogging> do you know beuno?
[03:31] <boredandblogging> he is in this channel quite a bit
[03:31] <OpenDeb> yes, i talked to him yesterday
[03:31] <boredandblogging> cool
[03:31] <OpenDeb> yes, but his is absent
[03:31] <OpenDeb> I talked with Alexandro silva of Brazil too
[03:32] <OpenDeb> next week we have FISL 09 in Porto Alegre
[03:32] <boredandblogging> FISL is always a big event
[03:33] <OpenDeb> yes
[03:33] <OpenDeb> The greatest in Southamerica
[03:33] <OpenDeb> almost 15.000 persons in four days
[03:33] <boredandblogging> thats amazing
[03:33] <OpenDeb> yes, and the 60% are community related projects
[03:34] <OpenDeb> the 40% enterprises
[03:34] <OpenDeb> and beautiful nights afterhours
[03:35] <boredandblogging> i'm looking forward to reading about it
[03:35] <OpenDeb> yes, if u can go someday you will no feel dissapointed
[03:35] <boredandblogging> it would be fun!
[03:36] <OpenDeb> yes
[03:37] <OpenDeb> you will know how its going open source in another places, latinamerica has a special taste of "interpretation of freedom"
[03:37] <boredandblogging> lol, what does that mean?
[03:37] <OpenDeb> more passional than in developed countries, but the same spirit
[03:37] <boredandblogging> very nice
[03:38] <OpenDeb> i.e: here the term "free software" is more aceptable than Open source,
[03:38] <OpenDeb> linux is living here like a way of life
[03:38] <boredandblogging> thats good
[03:38] <OpenDeb> theres a lot of people that wants to join linux, but sometimes, this people need some more "human" speech
[03:38] <OpenDeb> ubuntu helps a lot, but speech is everything
[03:39] <OpenDeb> comunicate to people in "people language" the freedom thats so passionate and magic to do
[03:39] <boredandblogging> right
[03:40] <OpenDeb> well, you are welcome to latinamerica wheneve you want, anyway, all things will cost you at least two times less than in USA
[03:40] <OpenDeb> thats my gtalk/jabber welcome to be added
[03:40] <OpenDeb><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:41] <boredandblogging> i'm sure I'll make a trip one of these days
[03:41] <boredandblogging> hopefully I can time it during an event like FISL
[03:41] <OpenDeb> yes of course
[03:41] <OpenDeb> the event starts next wenesday with preparatives and things like that
[03:42] <OpenDeb> if you come to argentina, is very near from Porto Alegre, you should go to "Glaciar Perito Moreno"
[03:42] <OpenDeb> and "Bariloche" or Iguazu Falls
[08:27] <BHSPitLappy> When will Shipit start taking orders for Hardy?  They were taking orders for Gutsy CDs prior to its release, if my memory serves well.
[13:29] <_RAM> hello
[14:39] <boredandblogging> BHSPitLappy: you can already order Hardy CDs: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingCds
[14:48] <mehdi2> boredandblogging: hi, I'm the Iranian team contact... how can I have the 8.04 press release for translation
[14:51] <boredandblogging> mehdi2: you understand that it is embargoed till Canonical releases it? And it should not be posted to any publicly available websites, mailing lists, blogs, wikis, etc?
[14:52] <boredandblogging> you are translating to farsi?
[14:52] <mehdi2> boredandblogging: sure
[14:52] <mehdi2> boredandblogging: yes, I'm translating to Farsi
[14:53] <mehdi2> boredandblogging: where will you publish these translations?
[14:54] <boredandblogging> give me a few minutes, I'll email it you
[14:54] <boredandblogging> for right now, you can use it for local media once Hardy is released
[14:54] <boredandblogging> I'm trying to find out if we can get it posted to ubuntu.com
[14:55] <boredandblogging> mehdi2: give me a few minutes, I'll email it to you
[14:55] <mehdi2> boredandblogging: ok, thanks :-)
[14:59] <boredandblogging> mehdi2: sent
[15:01] <mehdi2> boredandblogging: ok, I'll sent the translation back to you
[15:03] <boredandblogging> mehdi2: thanks
[19:59] <Mirv> I'm happy to say I'm managing to translate the press release quite well. It's hard to keep the thought intact and write extremely fluent text in another language.
[20:00] <Mirv> boredandblogging: when the translation is ready, do I send it to eg. you? (GPG encrypted of course). you know what to do with it, even though it has those Server and Desktop sections and the Server section even has some /* text */ which I left alone but translated the text inside.
[21:48] <juliux> "Sounds strange I now but we have someone in the New Mexico LoCo that can
[21:48] <juliux> do the Russian Translation if need be." that sounds realy strange
[22:03] <cody-somerville> lol
[22:05] <Hattory> cody-somerville, Hi... Have you received a mail from Milo Casagrande?
[22:06] <cody-somerville> Hattory, Yup. The request is in my queue :)
[22:06] <Hattory> cody-somerville, perfect ;)
[23:58] <juliux> hi beuno
[23:58] <juliux> ah only a reconnect;)


[23:37] <FurretUber> Hi, regarding that strange error on upgrade I reported as bug 1963600 I have done further tests, and it does seem Xubuntu specific
[23:37] <FurretUber> More specifically, it happens when using an old Jammy ISO to latest version, or from Focal to Jammy upgrade


[03:56] <feoh> Evening all
[03:57] <feoh> Anyone else seeing: dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libdleyna-core-1.0-5_0.6.0-3_amd64.deb (--unpack): in their apt dist-upgrade on 20.04?
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> lets see
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> feoh: i dont have that package installed, can you tell us wich package that it depens on?
[04:00] <feoh> Good question let me look up the apt syntax for that.
[04:03] <prologic> [13:57:24]  <prologic>	Is there a problem with the flocal-security repo on 20.04 right now?
[04:03] <prologic> [13:57:25]  <prologic>	E: The repository 'http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-security InRelease' is not signed.
[04:03] <Bashing-om> !info libdleyna-core focal
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> prologic: can you pastebin the whole output plz?
[04:04] <prologic> Sure can
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> prologic: i just updated to latest, no issues with apt here
[04:04] <tomreyn> sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog
[04:04] <tomreyn> ^ can help diagnosing apt issues
[04:05] <feoh> tttThanks
[04:05] <prologic> https://gist.github.com/prologic/987a2084ef3b6fa6dc708b494c045248
[04:05] <feoh> I'll give that a shot
[04:06] <feoh> I wonder if it got brought in when I installed krita
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> feoh: if you doublecheck, i can install & test if you want
[04:07] <tomreyn> prologic: are you using a proxy?
[04:07] <prologic> no
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> prologic: and for wich reason are you using backports on 20.04?
[04:08] <prologic> some packages I can't get on 20.04
[04:08] <prologic> Also FWIW I'm using the upstream ubuntu:20.04 docker image as a base here
[04:09] <tomreyn> is this a regular ubuntu installation you did yourself?
[04:09] <feoh> lotuspsychje: No worries. I can't get any of the depends or rdepends or anything to leak what might have brought this package in.
[04:09] <tomreyn> where is the docker image from exactly?
[04:09] <feoh> DockerHub I'd wager :)
[04:09] <prologic> here https://hub.docker.com/layers/ubuntu/library/ubuntu/20.04/images/sha256-7345a0001b12b9d537ae2936205827ddd6a9aac6616943e67f9623d2ef338c52
[04:10] <prologic> Anyway if there are no KP I'll carry on and figure this out on my own
[04:11] <prologic> it was working upuntil recently so I don't htink it was something I did necessarily :)
[04:11] <prologic> And the base image itself hasn't been updated in over a month
[04:11] <prologic> so 🤷♂
[04:12] <tomreyn> i assume 'KP' doesn't stand for 'kommunist party' but 'known problems' there?
[04:14] <prologic> D'oh I think I suspect whats happenning
[04:14] <tomreyn> i don't know who the publisher of this image is https://hub.docker.com/u/doijanky - or whether you should trust them. but i assume you researched this already.
[04:14] <prologic> Running out of disk space can cause this :)
[04:14] <prologic> stupid symptoms of a different underlying problem you can't see
[04:14] <tomreyn> oh interesting effect
[04:14] <prologic> indeed
[04:14] <prologic> Just confimring it now
[04:15] <prologic> Also I assume the publishers of the image are you guys :)
[04:15] <prologic> By "you guys" I mean someone in the Ubuntu development community/team :)
[04:15] <prologic> it is part of the Docker Hub "official images" afterall :)
[04:16] <prologic> Confirmed
[04:16] <tomreyn> could be, i don't know, but i'm not official ubuntu either. ;)
[04:16] <prologic> running out of disk space maeks apt go crazy with gpg signed repos
[04:17] <tomreyn> or i'm not anyways ;)
[04:17] <prologic> TIL
[04:17] <tomreyn> it's a rare result of running out of disk space, but obviously you shouldn't do that ni the first place.
[04:18] <prologic> obviously :)
[04:18] <prologic> but who monitors the disk space of ephemeral vms used for dev :)
[04:18] <tomreyn> not you ;-)
[04:18] <prologic> not anyone I suspect :D
[04:19] <prologic> Unless you're Fb and your dev machine is an ex production machine
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> prologic: does apt spit out same errors when disabling backports?
[04:20] <prologic> I didn't try sorry
[04:20] <prologic> it was Disk Space that caused this
[04:20] <tomreyn> the gist showed the error for multiple repositories, so i assume it would have
[04:21] <feoh> lotuspsychje: Wherever it came from I fixed the problem. The install was whining about failing to overwrite is an old version of the same package, so I just removed that, ran the apt --fix-broken install and everything worked.
[04:21] <feoh> Thank you for helping me prod at this and get it going ultimately :)
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> ok
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> feoh: so wich package was this about exactly?
[04:22] <feoh> libdleyna-core-1.0-3
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> i know but was there a main package this depended on?
[04:23] <feoh>   Depends: libgupnp-1.2-0 (>= 0.20.7)
[04:23] <feoh> That, libc, and glib2
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> prologic feoh you guys have a launchpad account?
[04:25] <feoh> I do
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> feoh: wanna test an easy qbittorrent bug?
[04:26] <feoh> Absolutely!
[04:26] <feoh> Provided said testing is short-ish, I've gotta get sleep at some point along the curve :)
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> feoh: sudo apt install qbitorrent, and launch please
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> if it crashes for you, please affect bug #1862016
[04:27] <feoh> installing
[04:28] <feoh> UI comes up just fine
[04:28] <feoh> Anything you need me to do further to validate other than just bringing up the GUI?
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> feoh: try to search function or adding a torrent
[04:28] <feoh> k
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> mine crashes after 3sec
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> doing nothing
[04:31] <feoh> Search works great
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> weird
[04:31] <feoh> Bummer.
[04:31] <feoh> I'm running stock Gnome
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> same
[04:31] <feoh> dunno if that has anything to do with it
[04:31] <feoh> huh
[04:31] <feoh> Anything else you'd like me to try?
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> feoh: try adding something after searching a keyword
[04:35] <feoh> Yup, attempting to download crashed it
[04:35] <feoh> Caught signal: SIGSEGV
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> affect yourself plz?
[04:36] <feoh> Pardon me?
[04:36] <feoh> Ah, twiddle the bug. Gotcha.
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> tnx for your time feoh
[04:37] <tomreyn> "This bug affects 1 person. Does this bug affect you?"
[04:38] <feoh> My pleasure happy to help
[04:39] <feoh> It's a nice client
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> feoh: here's another eay test if youre up to it, bug #1849787
[11:16] <feoh> lotuspsychje: There's that sleep thing, but I just got paged out of bed again so. Yay? :)
[11:17] <feoh> I've also got a few of my own reported bugs in LP that I can validate as no longer being a thing in 20.04
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> feoh: feel free to share, always glad to test things
[11:50] <user14> Good day, anyone here tried to install 20.04 dev on a Hyper-V VM?
[12:17] <user14> Well yes, 20.04 installs fine in Hyper-V, there seems to be no package for the 5.4 kernel specific for azure yet, so Enhanced session will not ben working.
[13:51] <arif-ali> what's the current state of focal for raspberry pi, I ran the daily from iso.qa.u.c, and setting up a bridge using netplan doesn't seem to be working after reboot, is that a known issue? Is this the best channel for this?
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> arif-ali: i did not test the iso for PI myself yet, but at this stage a lot is still changing, like the server installer is being worked on etc
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> there's still alot of breakage and bugs currently that need revision
[14:04] <arif-ali> lotuspsychje: no worries, I was able to boot it, and get an ip on it without a problem. doing a netplan try/apply works, and the bridge gets an IP. But the bridge doesn't come up with ipv4 on startup.
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> arif-ali: do you suspect a specific package?
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> we could check the packagename's recent bugs for example on fossa
[14:07] <arif-ali> will have to dig deep on where specifically the issue is that is causing it, may have to do that after EOD
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> arif-ali: this user for example filed one against systemd: bug #1860926
[14:10] <arif-ali> ok, that could be it, thanks
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> if you suspect its the same, please affect yourself to the bug, this helps the community to solve
[14:10] <arif-ali> I was searching specifically for rpi, and not more generally
[14:10] <arif-ali> yeah, will do
[14:10] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> arif-ali: did you find it similar?
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> feoh: did you report bug #1862782 ?
[15:30] <feoh> I didn't
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> feoh: then can you doublecheck if that was your issue yesterday?
[15:46] <arif-ali> lotuspsychje: it does look similar, but I will double check later, when I can verify and test the particular scenario. I want to start from a fresh flash of the image, and ensure I follow the same steps as that bug
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> great, tnx for taking your time for it arif-ali
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> in this stage, we can use all the help :p
[15:48] <arif-ali> :) no worries
[15:49] <feoh> lotuspsychjesure
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> tnx feoh that looks like the same package of your issue right?
[15:54] <feoh> yes. marked it as affecting me and posted my successful work-around.
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> +1 for your work feoh ; )
[15:57] <feoh> Pleasure.
[16:08] <feoh> lotuspsychje: I have a couple of bugs I reported in prior releases that are fixed in 20.04 - what's the appropriate step for me to take to mark them as such? It's not clear to me from Launchpad's web UI.
[16:08] <feoh> I don't see a "Resolve as fixed" button :)
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> feoh: well normal case scenario's we let the devs decide when a bug is fixxed
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> but more expert users playing well with launchpad can do it themselfs too
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> depending on your skills
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> personally, i dont touch it myself
[16:10] <feoh> OK so I'll just comment that as a the reporter I can vouch for it as being fixed
[16:10] <feoh> Thanks!
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> feoh: yes, a user can always add a comment, its fixxed on his side
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> feoh: other users and devs will read & test if they can also fix the same way
[16:13] <feoh> Great. Did that. Thanks.
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> feoh: oh well, a bug created on 18.04 and got marked fixed, should not be a bug anymore in higher ubuntu releases, so you should not specific mark it solved anymore
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> feoh: the way around is possible, if the bug would still be there in 20.04 you can add a comment
[16:18] <feoh> OK so was I wrong to comment about it being fixed in 20.04?
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> yeah reading your 18.04 bug made me realize
[16:21] <feoh> How can I know whether or not that's the case?
[16:35] <feoh> Gonna chalk it up to "I don't think my comments did any harm" and just not do that next time if the bugs are old :)
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> !bug | feoh the official etiquette
[20:51] <feoh> Thanks. FWIW the devs closed 2/3 of the bugs I commented on so I think that was the right call.
[20:52] <feoh> But I'll also read that :)


[17:53] <seanluv> Hi! I've been trying out the lxqt versions of lubuntu since their first releases, unfortunately I'm not really getting the new looks of the system, it seems a lot more clumsy and less minimalistic than previous lxde desktop. Today I tried out 20.04 and after seeing the teal text over light blue background in the wallpaper with the grey borders I
[17:53] <seanluv> was really worried for the distro's design team. So I wanted to ask if there is some place to engage in design discussions about Lubuntu. I really love the distro, and as the switch to LXQt is imminent, I would really love for it to look good.
[17:54] <seanluv> Don't get me wrong, the default theme and icons that come with the system are a lot better than those of the lxde versions, but the lxde versions with the same themes and icons looks a lot "cleaner"
[17:58] <wxl> seanluv: pull requests welcomed, of course. development discussion is at #lubuntu-devel.
[18:06] <seanluv> Thank you!
[18:07] <tpw_rules> hey all. if i have a lubuntu 20.04 iso, how can i do a core install where i only get the GUI but not all of the installed apps?
[18:07] <seanluv> In these topics that are very subjective, are PRs usually accepted nonetheless?
[18:16] <wxl> seanluv: i'd contine this conversation on the other channel, but i think barring any glaringly obvious problems, i would say we're pretty open.
[18:32] <tpw_rules> is there any way to type a path into lubuntu's file open dialog?


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[06:16] <ricotz> hello ubuntu-release, would it be possible to drop llvm-defaults from mantic/proposed to revert the switch to llvm-16 as default? this would unbreak riscv64 until there is a successful llvm-16 build
[06:18] <ricotz> hello ubuntu-archive, ^
[07:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qt6-httpserver [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [6.4.2-4]
[07:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qt6-httpserver [armhf] (mantic-proposed) [6.4.2-4]
[07:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qt6-httpserver [riscv64] (mantic-proposed) [6.4.2-4]
[07:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qt6-virtualkeyboard [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [6.4.2+dfsg-4]
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[07:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qt6-webchannel [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [6.4.2-3]
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[07:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qt6-webchannel [riscv64] (mantic-proposed) [6.4.2-3]
[07:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qt6-webview [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [6.4.2-4]
[07:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qt6-httpserver [arm64] (mantic-proposed) [6.4.2-4]
[07:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qt6-httpserver [s390x] (mantic-proposed) [6.4.2-4]
[07:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qt6-virtualkeyboard [ppc64el] (mantic-proposed) [6.4.2+dfsg-4]
[07:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qt6-webchannel [arm64] (mantic-proposed) [6.4.2-3]
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[07:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qt6-webview [arm64] (mantic-proposed) [6.4.2-5]
[07:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qt6-httpserver [ppc64el] (mantic-proposed) [6.4.2-4]
[07:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qt6-virtualkeyboard [s390x] (mantic-proposed) [6.4.2+dfsg-4]
[07:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qt6-webview [arm64] (mantic-proposed) [6.4.2-4]
[07:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qt6-webview [armhf] (mantic-proposed) [6.4.2-5]
[07:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qt6-virtualkeyboard [arm64] (mantic-proposed) [6.4.2+dfsg-4]
[07:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qt6-webview [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [6.4.2-5]
[07:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted qt6-webchannel [ppc64el] (mantic-proposed) [6.4.2-3]
[07:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted dpf-plugins [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [1.7+ds-1]
[07:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted dpf-plugins [armhf] (mantic-proposed) [1.7+ds-1]
[07:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted dpf-plugins [riscv64] (mantic-proposed) [1.7+ds-1]
[07:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted lsp-plugins [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [1.2.8-1]
[07:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted lsp-plugins [armhf] (mantic-proposed) [1.2.8-1]
[07:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted lsp-plugins [riscv64] (mantic-proposed) [1.2.8-1]
[07:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted dpf-plugins [arm64] (mantic-proposed) [1.7+ds-1]
[07:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted dpf-plugins [s390x] (mantic-proposed) [1.7+ds-1]
[07:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted lsp-plugins [ppc64el] (mantic-proposed) [1.2.8-1]
[07:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted dpf-plugins [ppc64el] (mantic-proposed) [1.7+ds-1]
[07:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted lsp-plugins [s390x] (mantic-proposed) [1.2.8-1]
[07:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted lsp-plugins [arm64] (mantic-proposed) [1.2.8-1]
[07:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted luametatex [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [2.10.08+ds-1]
[07:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted luametatex [armhf] (mantic-proposed) [2.10.08+ds-1]
[07:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted luametatex [riscv64] (mantic-proposed) [2.10.08+ds-1]
[07:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted luametatex [arm64] (mantic-proposed) [2.10.08+ds-1]
[07:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted luametatex [s390x] (mantic-proposed) [2.10.08+ds-1]
[07:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted luametatex [ppc64el] (mantic-proposed) [2.10.08+ds-1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ffmpeg [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [7:6.0-4ubuntu1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ffmpeg [armhf] (mantic-proposed) [7:6.0-4ubuntu1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ffmpeg [ppc64el] (mantic-proposed) [7:6.0-4ubuntu1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ffmpeg [s390x] (mantic-proposed) [7:6.0-4ubuntu1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ffmpeg [arm64] (mantic-proposed) [7:6.0-4ubuntu1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ffmpeg [riscv64] (mantic-proposed) [7:6.0-4ubuntu1]
[07:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ffmpeg [i386] (mantic-proposed) [7:6.0-4ubuntu1]
[07:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted fp-units-win [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [3.2.2+dfsg-20]
[07:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libcerf [arm64] (mantic-proposed) [2.3-1]
[07:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libcerf [s390x] (mantic-proposed) [2.3-1]
[07:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted r-cran-renv [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [1.0.0-1]
[07:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libcerf [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [2.3-1]
[07:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted r-cran-dials [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [1.2.0-1]
[07:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libcerf [armhf] (mantic-proposed) [2.3-1]
[07:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pagmo [riscv64] (mantic-proposed) [2.19.0-2]
[07:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rhsrvany [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [1.1-1]
[07:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pwdsphinx [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [1.0.15-1]
[07:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pagmo [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [2.19.0-2]
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[07:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pagmo [arm64] (mantic-proposed) [2.19.0-2]
[07:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pagmo [ppc64el] (mantic-proposed) [2.19.0-2]
[07:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coinor-cbc [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [2.10.10+really2.10.10+ds1-2]
[07:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted coinor-cbc [armhf] (mantic-proposed) [2.10.10+really2.10.10+ds1-2]
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[07:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-linemux [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [0.3.0-2]
[07:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-snapbox [arm64] (mantic-proposed) [0.4.8-1]
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[09:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted initramfs-tools [source] (lunar-proposed) [0.142ubuntu2.2]
[09:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted initramfs-tools [source] (jammy-proposed) [0.140ubuntu13.4]
[10:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted samba [source] (lunar-proposed) [2:4.17.7+dfsg-1ubuntu2]
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[11:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libflame [source] (jammy-proposed) [5.2.0-3ubuntu4]
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[11:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted manila-ui [source] (jammy-proposed) [1:7.0.0-0ubuntu1.1]
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[11:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ipmitool [source] (jammy-proposed) [1.8.18-11ubuntu2.1]
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[13:04] <tjaalton> LocutusOfBorg: I have mesa builds failing now with "lto1: fatal error: bytecode stream in file ‘/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libSPIRV-Tools-link.a’ generated with LTO version 12.0 instead of the expected 13.0". is this related to the llvm defaults changes?
[13:06] <tjaalton> oh, this is probably gcc12->13
[13:07] <tjaalton> nevermind
[13:32] <LocutusOfBorg> tjaalton, indeed
[13:33] <LocutusOfBorg> you should rebuild spirv-tools maybe?
[13:33] <tjaalton> and I need to fix spirv-llvm-translator(s) to work with current spirv-tools
[13:33] <tjaalton> and that
[13:34] <tjaalton> did debian bump gcc already?
[13:41] <tjaalton> seems like it
[13:44] <LocutusOfBorg> yeah
[13:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected glibc [sync] (jammy-proposed) [2.35-0ubuntu3.3]
[14:18] <tjaalton> LocutusOfBorg: btw, spirv-llvm-translator-16 could've been synced, so the next one should be
[15:09] <sergiodj> hi, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu/+bug/1853307 has been in the SRU queue for a while now, is it possible to have it reviewed today?  thanks
[15:09] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 1853307 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "[22.04 FEAT] Enhanced Interpretation for PCI Functions - qemu part" [Medium, In Progress]
[16:44] <LocutusOfBorg> tjaalton, spirv-llvm-translator-16 should be merged
[16:44] <LocutusOfBorg> maybe instead of removing the files, just mark as optional=lto the symbols and forward to debian...
[17:17] <tjaalton> LocutusOfBorg: -2 should have everything, the packaging merged stuff from -14.0.0-6
[17:17] <tjaalton> oh fun
[17:18] <tjaalton> so the symbols are still broken
[17:18] <tjaalton> on ubuntu at leaset
[17:18] <tjaalton> *least
[18:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: glibc (jammy-proposed/main) [2.35-0ubuntu3.2 => 2.35-0ubuntu3.3] (core, i386-whitelist) (sync)
[18:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted glibc [sync] (jammy-proposed) [2.35-0ubuntu3.3]
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[09:36] <rmg51> Morning
[10:50] <waltman> Morning? Looks more like night.
[11:06] <rmg51> open your eyes and see the light
[11:07] <rmg51> even if you have to turn one on first :-D
[11:18] <waltman> $^#!$ morning people...
[11:30] <JonathanD> Hi waltman
[12:07] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples
[16:03]  * ChinnoDog yawns
[16:53]  * ChinnoDog makes blog explode with new posts
[16:53] <ChinnoDog> If PennBot were here he would tell you all about it
[16:54] <ChinnoDog> RIP PennBot
[17:56] <InHisName> Now, ChinnoDog, don't go ripping into poor defenseless pennbot.......
[17:59] <ChinnoDog> He isn't here anymore.
[18:00] <ChinnoDog> Can someone add me back to planet? http://www.chinnodog.com/category/technology/ubuntu/
[18:07] <ChinnoDog> I wish I could eliminate the /technology part of the permalink but it looks like Wordpress doesn't support that. poop
[19:47] <ChinnoDog> @crickets
[23:55] <rmg51> well, I just found out two things
[23:56] <rmg51> Teddy's old laptop won't run Ubuntu 12.10
[23:56] <rmg51> threw a pae error trying to boot a live dvd
[23:57] <rmg51> but..... I booted Linux Mint
[23:57] <rmg51> I can live with that
[23:58] <ChinnoDog> rmg51: What was the error?
[23:58] <rmg51> cpu is to old
[23:59] <rmg51> it is a nine year old lappy


[00:38] <bkerensa> bdmurray: Is #1073114 a valid bug?
[00:39] <bkerensa> Bug #1073114
[00:39] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1073114 in unity-lens-shopping (Ubuntu Raring) "Shopping Lens Does Not Respect User Privacy" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1073114
[01:08] <phillw> bdmurray: when ever you pick this one up, ref bug 971918 I can'y immediately see the 'verification required' tag. (I'm looking at the instructions now), but I can confirm that it works and have commented on the bug.
[01:08] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 971918 in lxterminal (Ubuntu) "Ctrl-Shift-C issues a Break command" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/971918
[01:16] <bdmurray> phillw: setting the quantal task to fix released is incorrect as the package is still in -proposed
[01:17] <bdmurray> phillw: additionally did you test in quantal or raring?
[01:17] <phillw> bdmurray: sorry :(
[01:17] <phillw> I'm using quantal, which is what the bug is raised against
[01:17] <bdmurray> phillw: okay, then if you verified it the correct thing to do is to change the tag from verification-needed to verification-done
[01:18] <phillw> bdmurray: where do I find that tag to alter?
[01:18] <bdmurray> phillw: then when the SRU team copies the package from -proposed to -updates the bug will be automatically set to fix released
[01:18] <bdmurray> phillw: in the bug tags? beneath the description and above related branches
[01:20] <phillw> that only lists precise?
[01:21] <phillw> Qauntal was the bug I knew of and the one I've followed. I'm quite happy to fire up a precise VM and test it in that.
[01:25] <bdmurray> the precise tag is not necessarily related to the verification-needed tag
[01:25] <bdmurray> they are 2 separate tags
[01:31] <phillw> bdmurray: is it just me being intensely dense (likely) or is it when I click on the 'verification needed' bit, I get a whole new window open asking me to tell it what bugs I'm asking about?
[01:31] <phillw> and when I put in the bug number it takes me back to original screen... :(
[01:36] <bdmurray> clicking on the tag performs a search for bugs with that tag
[01:36] <bdmurray> to edit the tags you want to click the pencil at the end of the list
[01:38] <phillw> bdmurray: is that correct?
[01:39] <phillw> because that reads to me that precise has been verified as okay, with no mention of quantal what so ever.....
[01:40] <phillw> I've never seen multiple tags against a bug - which is what is throwing me.
[01:41] <phillw> patch precise verification-done
[01:42] <bdmurray> the tags aren't necessarily related to each other
[01:43] <bdmurray> each tag is like a separate adjective describing the bug
[01:49] <phillw> bdmurray: now I understand, thanks to you.. May the Lord have mercy upon a new person. I've not had issues in the past.  I'll ask Gema to mention it when she does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom#Section_2
[09:56] <rbasak> bdmurray: hey, will crichton honour bot-stop-nagging? Or if not, is there a way to post a debdiff marked as a patch to a bug but have it not subscribe ubuntu-sponsors please?
[15:41] <bdmurray> rbasak: yes it will honor the tag
[15:41] <rbasak> Great. Thank you!
[19:58] <TheLordOfTime> bdmurray, ping, this isn't a bug right?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1098697
[19:58] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1098697 in linux (Ubuntu) "High Battery discharge rate when Laptop is off." [Undecided,Confirmed]
[19:58] <TheLordOfTime> if the laptop's off, can linux be affecting the discharge rate?
[19:58] <TheLordOfTime> pretty certain it cant if i understand modern laptop architecture.
[20:02] <bdmurray> I wouldn't think so but would check with jsalisbury
[20:03] <TheLordOfTime> whom you just pinged here :P
[20:03] <jsalisbury> TheLordOfTime, I would also not think so, if the laptop was powered off
[20:04] <TheLordOfTime> which is what my systems hardware training suggested
[20:07] <TheLordOfTime> should I be converting that to a support question?
[20:07] <TheLordOfTime> although, tbh, the answer to eh suypport question is "Contact HP"
[20:07] <bdmurray> well maybe they mean suspend?
[20:09] <TheLordOfTime> perhaps
[20:09] <TheLordOfTime> i'm going to ask them, and Incomplete the bug
[20:09] <TheLordOfTime> if they say "No, I mean powered off state" then its notabug given our knowledge of typical laptop architecture and design.
[20:11] <jsalisbury> TheLordOfTime, Maybe shutdown laptop, then pull the battery and re-insert it.  That way you know the OS isn't in some sort of suspend or hibernated state.  If the battery drain stops, then it may be a kernel issu
[20:11] <jsalisbury> s/issu/issue/
[20:11] <TheLordOfTime> jsalisbury, i'd like to see whether its a case of suspend being used
[20:11] <TheLordOfTime> if it isn't then that should be the next question
[20:11] <TheLordOfTime> s/question/test/
[20:13] <TheLordOfTime> jsalisbury, i'm aware of a powered-on state link between the linux kernel/system and power drain, that one i'm fully aware of, but i've *never* heard of any kernel, Windows, Linux, or otherwise, impacting battery drain in a fully powered off state.
[20:15] <jsalisbury> TheLordOfTime, I agree.  It could be that the battery is going bad, or some sort of hardware short.
[20:15] <TheLordOfTime> i agree with that too
[20:15] <TheLordOfTime> because i've seen battery death :p
[20:15] <TheLordOfTime> heck, it happened to me about two months ago
[20:16] <jsalisbury> TheLordOfTime, sounds like a bad batch of batteries maybe?
[20:16] <TheLordOfTime> jsalisbury, well, that battery was 3 years olsd
[20:16] <TheLordOfTime> old *
[20:16] <TheLordOfTime> this system here, which is still my primary, is almost 4 years old.
[20:17] <jsalisbury> TheLordOfTime, maybe let the batter sit for two days out of the laptop and see if it drains.  If it doesn't, that could indicate a short in the laptop
[20:17] <TheLordOfTime> mhm
[20:17] <TheLordOfTime> jsalisbury, you may want to suggest that as possible tests of the battery, ASSUMING they're not suspending their system.
[20:18]  * TheLordOfTime is currently busy working on updating a server
[20:18] <TheLordOfTime> s/updating/upgrading/
[20:18] <jsalisbury> TheLordOfTime, will do
[20:21] <TheLordOfTime> ... that's a tag i've not seen before...
[20:21] <TheLordOfTime> kernel-da-key <-- that
[20:22] <jsalisbury> TheLordOfTime, Yeah, I use that for my reports to keep track of specific bugs that aren't related to the development kernel.
[20:22] <TheLordOfTime> ah.  i see.
[22:33] <TheLordOfTime> jsalisbury, ping
[22:33] <TheLordOfTime> new updates to the bug.
[22:33] <TheLordOfTime> perhaps this is HP-specific in their architecture, and not something that is fixable in Linux?
[22:46] <TheLordOfTime> s/fixable/easily identified or fixed/


[00:19] <judget> is this the correct channel for mythbuntu newbee
[00:22] <judget> it seems to be a different desktop than i am used to
[02:35] <patdk-lap> ya, it's based on a different window manager
[02:35] <patdk-lap> much less light weight than the normal gnome one
[02:35] <patdk-lap> you can install the normal gnome one (ubuntu-desktop) and then have the option when you login, what one you want to use
[04:06] <qwebirc45415> lost closed captions recently on last mythbuntu upgrade, even on old recordings.  went through all the settings.  where to start?  google was not much help
[04:10] <qwebirc45415> when starting playback of a recording, a banner appears that says 'Default Settings' that was not happening before...
[16:01] <chrissbx> Is an AMD Fusion E-350 (Zacate-FT1) fast enough for MythBuntu to work properly?
[16:03] <chrissbx> (From extrapolated measurements on Atoms (Intel graphics, so no HW support right?) I think that the newer multithreaded FFMPEG might (should?) be fast enough even to play HD just on the CPU
[16:04] <chrissbx> but maybe I'm wrong, and worse, maybe e.g. flash won't use FFMPEG with multithreading enabled?)
[16:05] <chrissbx> (But then maybe even flash can make use of the GPU?)
[16:18] <Starman83> hi everybody
[16:19] <Starman83> Does anyone know how you can disable overscan on radeon open driver?
[16:29] <Starman83> Oh, I fixed it by setting my TV to 16:9. THis is unexpcted as "Auto" usually leads to a pixel-exact resolution under Windows 7
[16:29] <Starman83> Not so under Linux
[16:37] <chrissbx> Well my tests were with videos like: [H264]  1280x720  24bpp  25.000 fps  2494.5 kbps; I realize that's only 720p, not 1080, so for the latter it's pretty clear that HW accel is needed; how is support for that on the Zacate?
[16:38]  * chrissbx realizes that "Zacate mythtv" is a good way to search
[18:06] <Starman83> when I login to Xorg, mythtv keeps restarting
[18:06] <Starman83> can I somehow disable this?
[18:06] <Starman83> its a restart loop
[21:03] <Starman83> is there a way to play local videos with mythtv?
[21:03] <Starman83> THe manual says go to Utilities/Setup->Setup->Media Settings->Video Settings->General, but this menu doesnt exist in the frontend


[05:48] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:12] <OerHeks> hi lotus
[06:38] <ducasse> hi all
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> hey OerHeks & ducasse
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> how are you guys doing
[06:42] <ducasse> good thanks, yourself? work today?
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> 3 days off :p
[06:45] <ducasse> \o/ working on things for your shop instead?
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> yep
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> its getting shaped a bit now :p
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> http://lotuscomputers.be
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> logo needs to be centered and more space to searchbar still
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> and more categories coming without the pink text
[06:49] <OerHeks> get a free certificate :-)
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: what can i do with it?
[06:50] <OerHeks> Then you would have https
[06:51] <OerHeks> you know, that s that gives people trust
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> like your page you mean?
[06:51] <OerHeks> yes, then we will see https://lotuscomputers.be
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> oh
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> ill talk to my admin :p
[06:52] <ducasse> +1 on https
[06:52] <OerHeks> https://letsencrypt.org/ or an other vendor
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> hi EriC^^
[06:53] <OerHeks> or cacert.org ( old one)
[06:54] <EriC^^> hi lotuspsychje
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: what advantages does https have for the end user?
[06:55] <OerHeks> If i would buy with you, i expect a ssl connection.
[06:56] <EriC^^> the info is secure
[06:56] <EriC^^> god damn, the iphone back cover popped off suddenly
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> oO
[06:56] <EriC^^> didn't drop it or anything (iirc)
[06:56] <OerHeks> does not matter if there is money involved, any private info like name/adress and such too.
[06:56] <EriC^^> it's the old 4s
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: ok tnx
[06:57] <EriC^^> OerHeks: letsencrypt is for free right?
[06:57] <OerHeks> EriC^^, what might have caused this, heat?
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: our almera transmission box is pretty dead, buying a new car friday 2nd hand
[06:57] <OerHeks> yes.
[06:57] <EriC^^> OerHeks: maybe, i didn't leave it in the car or anything though
[06:57] <EriC^^> but sometimes i leave the flashlight on and put it in my pocket
[06:58] <EriC^^> so maybe that caused it, ah also i used the "hairdryer" method a few months back where you heat it up at the back and it resets and the wifi bug goes
[06:58] <OerHeks> heat/moisture .. or that phone is desintegrading after x years :-D
[06:58] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: nice
[06:58] <EriC^^> what are you getting?
[06:58] <EriC^^> yup
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: a black nissan note from 2008
[06:59] <EriC^^> i'm waiting for sept to get the 7 when it comes out
[06:59] <EriC^^> no point in getting the 6s anymore
[06:59] <EriC^^> finally no more apps wont work with ios x errors :D
[07:00] <EriC^^> also i want the slow motion camera badly
[07:01] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: cool
[07:01] <EriC^^> how's the site coming together?
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> http://lotuscomputers.be
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: being worked on
[07:03] <EriC^^> advies?
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> advice
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> security advice etc
[07:05] <EriC^^> aha
[07:05] <EriC^^> the old ad thing looked sick
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> ad thing?
[07:06] <EriC^^> yeah that box that had ads that come and go
[07:08] <OerHeks> wait.. i can call lotus \0/ .. lotus, add +32 in front of your phone number
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:08] <OerHeks> = interntion country code
[07:08] <OerHeks> grrr international
[07:10] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: look into https://letsencrypt.org/ for the cert
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> ok
[07:10] <EriC^^> i want to get a laptop
[07:10] <OerHeks> no no, you don't want a laptop, EriC^^
[07:10] <EriC^^> thinking about the msi pe60-6qe
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> msi have nice ones
[07:11] <EriC^^> hehe
[07:11] <OerHeks> you want a full tower with a lot of cables and plugs
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:11] <EriC^^> mine is dying, hdd is dead, battery dead, etc
[07:11] <lotuspsychje> bbl guys
[07:11] <OerHeks> :-)
[10:01] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> re
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: your package got arrived :p
[11:05] <EriC^^> wb lotuspsychje
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> tnx EriC^^
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: i had few msi mobo's once and very happy with them
[11:06] <EriC^^> cool
[11:06] <EriC^^> ubuntu friendly? uefi?
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> oh, it was long time ago before uefi :p
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> but i guess the only improved
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: whatever you choose put an ssd inside :p
[11:09] <EriC^^> it comes with one, but kind of small 128gb
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> cool
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: lol
[11:13] <OerHeks> :-)
[11:13] <OerHeks> i hasitated too, to press spacebar when screen went blanc..
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> sounds too weird in middle of install
[11:14] <OerHeks> no it happens.. i think it is a slow machine
[11:14] <OerHeks> or not to a SSD
[11:16] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: 'snap find' fails on both my 16.04 installs, "error: cannot list snaps: bad query"
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> uh?
[11:18] <ducasse> used to work, but i just discovered it no longer does :)
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: works fine here, could it be due to not using unity?
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> your on i3 right?
[11:18] <ducasse> possible.
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: you got the /snap folder?
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> and /dev/loop/ snaps?
[11:19] <ducasse> yep, 'snap list' works.
[11:20] <ducasse> got those too.
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: or do you snap find 'keyword'?
[11:20] <ducasse> 'snap find'
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> strange
[11:22] <ducasse> i've got 2.11+0.16.04 from -proposed...
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: whats the packagename again?
[11:22] <ducasse> snapd
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje@RooTBooK:~$ apt-cache policy snapd
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> snapd:
[11:23] <lotuspsychje>   Geïnstalleerd: 2.0.10
[11:23] <ducasse> the man page has gotten seriously updated, too
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> from main
[11:23] <OerHeks> oer@oerworkstation:~$ snap find snapd
[11:23] <OerHeks> Name                   Version  Developer  Notes  Summary
[11:23] <OerHeks> snapd-hacker-toolbelt  0.6      zygoon     -      Collection of tools useful for developers hacking on snapd
[11:23] <OerHeks> test-snapd-tools       1.0      canonical  -      Tools for testing the snapd application
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: what are you doing on proposed?
[11:23] <OerHeks> oh you are on proposed??
[11:24] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: this is a laptop that is only used for testing etc, so i volunteer for testing new updates
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> ah
[11:25] <ducasse> somebody's got to :)
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> :p
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: you might need a !bug then :p
[11:26] <ducasse> snap find works fine with a keyword, but not without. it used to list all available snaps.
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> yep
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> list got huge already wow
[11:27] <ducasse> according to the new man page, keywords should be optional. i think i'll file a bug on this.
[11:29] <OerHeks> hmm --beta Install from the beta channel, nice
[11:29] <ducasse> there are obviously a _lot_ of new things here, according to the man page. or at least they're noe documented :)
[11:29] <ducasse> *now
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> find
[11:33] <lotuspsychje>        Finds packages to install
[11:33] <lotuspsychje>        The find command queries the store for available packages.
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> ah list, is for installed snaps
[11:34] <OerHeks> man snap > snap-help.txt # for easy reading
[11:34] <ducasse> i've also got usage instructions, listing --private and --help
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: you can also check ubuntu software perhaps, if it lists snaps also?
[11:35] <ducasse> not installed :p
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> oh silly me
[11:36] <ducasse> i can search just fine, just seems the option to list all available snaps is gone.
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> thats the penalty for you unity haters haha
[11:36] <ducasse> might be intentional.
[11:36] <ducasse> not a unity hater, just a disliker :)
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> just joking mate :p
[11:37] <ducasse> i know :)
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> i wonder what happens if you install a lower snapd version
[11:37] <ducasse> want me to pastebin the new man page? it's quite different.
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> ah sure, lets have a look
[11:37] <ducasse> http://paste.ubuntu.com/22018730/
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: snap find also shows...hmm
[11:42] <ducasse> Usage: snap [OPTIONS] find [find-OPTIONS] - [...] means "optional"
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[11:44] <ducasse> but there's lots in here i didn't know about to play with! \o/
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: both your installs have i3?
[11:44] <ducasse> yup.
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: you have other wm's to try?
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> if the snap folders exist, its weird it gives you bad query right
[11:46] <ducasse> no, but i guess i could install one... i don't see how the wm should matter, but i see how something in a de might.
[11:47] <ducasse> i can run snaps and everything else, it seems.
[11:47] <ducasse> maybe that feature is just gone now.
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: but manpage still shows it
[11:47] <ducasse> i know, that's why i reacted.
[11:48] <ducasse> i'll file a bug, see what they respond.
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> okay
[12:00] <ducasse> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1609368
[12:09] <EriC^^> there are smart lights, supposed to last 23 years
[12:09] <EriC^^> wireless, you can program them, and use your phone to turn them on off
[12:10] <EriC^^> https://www.gadgitechstore.com/collections/smart-lights/products/wemo-smart-led-bulb
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> nice
[12:40] <ducasse> hasn't sruli been in #ubuntu earlier trying to use macchanger to get around restrictions on a free wifi?
[12:42] <OerHeks> that was a while ago, 2 weeks maybe?
[12:42] <ducasse> did you see his explanation now?
[12:43] <ducasse> "i need to get a particular ip from my dhcp, i connect with different device each time"
[12:43] <OerHeks> it makes no sense at all, multiple devices want to use same ip lease..
[12:43] <ducasse> i don't believe that, not gonna help him.
[12:43] <OerHeks> i give you permission to send him to the kali channel
[12:44] <ducasse> lol
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> :p
[12:47] <ducasse> he went quiet now, probably upset he got caught  :)
[12:47] <OerHeks> nope
[12:47] <ducasse> "i dont remember" - right.
[12:47] <OerHeks> but true, one can feel tension
[12:48] <ducasse> i'm not going to poke the bear anymore, i'll just leave him alone.
[13:35] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: very funny - 'snap find' will no longer list all snaps, the docs just don't reflect this. explanation: "this is never what the user wanted", which it was in my case...
[13:37] <OerHeks> how would one list all available snaps then?
[13:39] <OerHeks> snap find * # gives a selection, snap find . # gives the full list ?
[13:40] <OerHeks> this is on the old one, ofcourse
[13:43] <ducasse> OerHeks: ah, that seems to work. i had some problems with snap+regexps here, so i didn't test that. thanks, OerHeks :)
[13:44] <OerHeks>  the diff between snap find and snap find . seems to be 0
[13:44] <OerHeks> so technically, if this is the valid search for all packages, the manual can be updated too
[13:46] <ducasse> i'll add a note. i'm still a little unclear what the regexp's are matched against, here they seem to return things that may or may not be related, but which does not match the regexp
[14:05] <OerHeks> for proposed ..http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/can-now-install-snappy-apps-software-center
[14:08] <ducasse> that should have reached -updates by now, shouldn't it? the post was from late april.
[14:10] <OerHeks> there is no snap section whatsoever in my softwarecenter
[14:15] <ducasse> the article says there is no way to see all snaps in the gui, but you will find (gui) snap apps if you search for them.
[14:58] <horse> Hello.  I really like the Unity desktop, so wanted to set up a VM and remote in to have a play. it seems that this isn't possible.  is it really snesible to have a desktop envirnoment that dosn't support remote desktop/VNC?
[15:00] <daftykins> what's wrong with a VM from the host system you use?
[15:00] <daftykins> then use it directly...
[15:01] <horse> daftykins: it's not really convenient
[15:01] <horse> limited resource
[15:01] <daftykins> then how about booting a live session to try it out? or multiboot? or get a cheap second system?
[15:01] <horse> I could do, however, what about when i want to remote into my cheap second sytem?
[15:02] <horse> yes i could use SSH
[15:02] <daftykins> well that's for CLI.
[15:02] <horse> but i was quite looking forward to playing with the fancy GUI
[15:02] <daftykins> you'll see zero of it via remote technologies.
[15:02] <daftykins> however they do exist, do work and are fine to use on a home network - so i'm not really seeing a problem
[15:02] <horse> it just seems like an odd decision, for the sake of some 3d "rice"
[15:03] <daftykins> what is an odd decision?
[15:04] <daftykins> right now you are saying you want to see these fancy DE features
[15:04] <horse> valuing look and feel above actually being able to use the desktop remotely
[15:04] <daftykins> utilising a graphically accelerated desktop remotely is simply not a sensible use-case
[15:04] <ducasse> it's not just "rice", 3d accel is used for basically everything in compiz
[15:05] <horse> does windows not use 3D accel?
[15:05] <daftykins> horse: so i think you've either not looked very hard for how to try this effectively, or what you're trying to do is simply not a good idea
[15:06] <ducasse> horse: did you try the other approaches i and others suggested?
[15:06] <horse> i'm not sure what you mean by not looking very hard, are you saying this is possible?
[15:07] <daftykins> attempting to see a 3D accelerated desktop like Unity will always be a flawed plan no matter the OS, either Windows with aero (since Vista) or any accelerated Linux DE.
[15:08] <horse> ducasse: i tried a bunch of stuff, i cant really remember if i tried your approach specifically, remind me?
[15:08] <daftykins> the concept is flawed from the outset so it doesn't hugely matter on the method
[15:08] <horse> So how do other OSes handle this?  do they have a 2D mode for RDP?
[15:08] <dax> yes
[15:09] <horse> OK.  Does unity have a 2D mode?
[15:09] <dax> Windows disables graphical shinies when you RDP to it, for example
[15:09] <dax> no
[15:09] <horse> why not?
[15:09] <dax> no idea
[15:10] <daftykins> i run my windows 7 machine, which i access solely over RDP, with the classic theme so as to cut down on remote overhead
[15:10] <horse> OK, well that answers my question at least :)
[15:11] <daftykins> even when you're on a high speed LAN between one host and another, forwarding a graphically accelerated desktop is silly
[15:11] <horse> im on a lan and have no problems with RDP
[15:11] <horse> to windows boxen
[15:12] <horse> they are windows server though so probably not using "3d" mode.  i've never really thought about it until now to be honest.
[15:12] <daftykins> no Windows Server disables desktop compositing.
[15:12] <daftykins> ah, well these are pretty core concepts
[15:12] <horse> i usually SSH into hosts TBH
[15:13] <horse> however, in this use case i needed a GUI, so thought unity might be nice to try...
[15:14] <daftykins> perhaps if you told us the task we can advise something better
[15:15] <daftykins> you're aware of X forwarding also?
[15:15] <daftykins> though you would need some software installed to handle that if it's a Windows host
[15:15] <daftykins> (that you use directly)
[15:58] <ducasse> OerHeks: apparently, 'snap find .' only lists 100 arbitrary snaps. the devs see no need for a way to list all of them.
[15:59] <OerHeks> oke, thank you sofar.
[16:01] <OerHeks> then i will write a script, snap find a* -z* and sort and remove double ones
[16:01] <OerHeks> how to look for --beta,  --edge and --candidate ?
[16:02] <ducasse> they say we should use the rest api if we want a complete list. for --beta etc i don't think it is implemented.
[16:03] <ducasse> so use the rest api, is my guess.
[16:03] <OerHeks> what is rest api?
[16:04] <ducasse> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representational_state_transfer
[16:04]  * daftykins always rests
[16:05] <ducasse> ie - "you code it yourself, we can't be bothered". they claimed they didn't want to support pagination etc in the frontend, which is a bogus excuse imo.
[16:06] <daftykins> i hear this a lot from open source projects "we can't think of using what you want, therefore we won't do it"
[16:08] <OerHeks> maybe they have this policy, to give other linux distros a chance to come up with this bright idea
[16:08] <ducasse> most of the time i get that, but here it's a matter of removing a feature that exists, and deliberately coding around other ways to do it. all they need to do is dump all the data to stdout as they did before.
[16:08] <OerHeks> *that accept snap packages


[05:33] <rickspencer3> pitti, this doesn't look so bad today: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Quantal/view/ISO%20Testing%20Dashboard/
[05:33] <rickspencer3> ;)
[05:33] <pitti> indeed! but that doesn't have an image for today yet, for the post-alpha 2 rush
[05:34] <pitti> I'm a bit worried about the ubiquity failure on https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Quantal/view/AutoPkg%20Test/
[05:34] <pitti> but it seems it did not actually break the manual testing
[05:38] <rickspencer3> pitti, this one? https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Quantal/view/AutoPkg%20Test/job/quantal-adt-ubiquity/
[05:39] <pitti> yes
[05:39] <rickspencer3> seems like it hasn't ever passed, I guess it needs some attention?
[05:39] <pitti> oh, sure it passed in the past
[05:40] <pitti> look at the green dots at the left
[05:40] <pitti> the debconf error is most probably a bug in the test, but the 'NetworkManagerWidget' object has no attribute 'view' one is real
[05:40] <rickspencer3> oops
[05:41] <rickspencer3> I wonder if the ubiquity tests combined with the upgrade tests will make getting ubuntu installed and upgraded much more robust?
[05:42] <pitti> that was the idea
[05:42] <pitti> that, and breaking the installer with e. g. a new GTK or a new pygobject (which did happen a lot in the past)
[10:37] <trijntje> short question, has the deadline for these tests passed? http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/222/builds/17847/testcases
[10:37] <mwozniak00> Hi, I have a small question? Is it possible to attach to the official repository the drivers written by third party person. I mean specifically about stk11xx for Syntek webcams.
[10:40] <jibel> trijntje, yes, alpha 2 has been released yesterday. Quantal daily is open for testing  http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/219/builds
[10:45] <trijntje> jibel: k thanks. I've subscribed to a number of images so I guess I'll get an e-mail when there are new ones available
[10:45] <jibel> trijntje, there is no notification for daily builds
[10:47] <jibel> and I'm wondering why todays are not on the tracker
[10:47] <jibel> trijntje, thanks for the heads up
[10:47] <mwozniak00> Hmm... Beter is use Quantal alpha2 iso or daily build ?
[10:48] <mwozniak00> for standalone istall of corse... i wana help whitch searching bug ;)
[10:48] <trijntje> jibel: I just noticed that the zsync link for the core images is broken, could that be related?
[10:48] <trijntje> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/219/builds/17742/downloads
[10:50] <jibel> trijntje, it is related. It points to the version of the images before Alpha2. New images have been published and the old ones deleted
[10:50] <jibel> trijntje, latest build is there http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily/
[10:51] <jibel> mwozniak00, personally I use daily builds
[10:51] <jibel> you'll get the latest updates which is good for testing purpose
[10:55] <mwozniak00> ok. thx. i have hope that this is a little bit stable because i wanu use it for daily work ;) i know that is not recommendet but i like test unstable soft...
[11:06] <trijntje> jibel: should that be http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-core/daily/current?
[11:51] <jibel> trijntje, yes, current is a link to the latest build which in this case is 20120629/
[11:52] <trijntje> ok, thanks, then I know what images to test!
[11:53] <trijntje> (slightly offtopic, how are you able to run so many tests? I see your name everywhere)
[13:12] <brendand> is there a particular package i need to install to get the quantal xorg packages on precise?
[13:12] <brendand> despite the fact that i have the ppa enabled my xorg packages don't match the versions in the ppa
[19:48] <jibel> stgraber, lxc question. Can I tell to lxc-create to create the container filesystem in a different location than /var/lib/lxc ?
[19:50] <stgraber> jibel: I vaguely remember that path being hardcoded (or almost hardcoded) in quite a few places. In theory you could pass a .conf file (-f) to lxc-create with lxc.rootfs set to an alternate path, but I doubt it'll work
[19:50] <stgraber> I usually end up symlinking /var/lib/lxc somewhere else
[19:51] <stgraber> but feel free to file a bug about it as we certainly should allow containers to be stored in a different place
[19:51] <jibel> setting it in lxc.conf doesn't work. I'll bind mount the other drive
[19:51] <jibel> stgraber, ta
[19:52] <stgraber> np (I have /var/lib/lxc and /var/cache/lxc be symlinks to /data/internal/containers/ on most of my servers)
[19:58] <jibel> bug 1019398