[12:09] <elacheche_anis> Hey
[12:09] <elacheche_anis> I'm looking to change the ML of a LP groupe to a private one, how can I do that :)
[20:07] <elacheche_anis> Hey :)
[20:58] <belkinsa> Can anyone join the LoCo contacts mailing list?
[21:00] <JanC> belkinsa: if you mean if everybody can join it, then the answer is yes
[21:00] <belkinsa> Thank you.  The recent vUDS sessions for the LoCo stuff fired me up and I want to help, when needed.
[21:00] <JanC> locoteam contacts are expected to join it, everybody else can too
[21:01] <elacheche_anis> JanC, I'm looking to change the ML of a LP groupe to a private one, how can I do that :)
[21:02] <belkinsa> Should I introduce myself to the list?
[21:02] <JanC> elacheche_anis: I don't know if that's possible
[21:03] <JanC> belkinsa: if you think that's useful, why not?  but it's not mandatory (some people just subscribe to read it mostly)
[21:04] <belkinsa> Okay, thanks.
[21:04] <elacheche_anis> Thanks JanC :)
[21:04] <JanC> elacheche_anis: I think czajkowski should be able to answer such questions
[21:06] <JanC> elacheche_anis: and maybe also try #launchpad
[21:07] <elacheche_anis> Oh great :) I'll wait an answer from czajkowski :) And didn't know about #launchpad I'll ask them too :) thanks JanC :)
[21:09] <JanC> seems like czajkowski might be working for another company right now...
[21:10] <JanC> but #launchpad should still be useful
[21:11] <elacheche_anis> ok :) thx
[21:13] <JanC> I guess I haven't been active enough to follow who works where recently  :-/
[21:14] <elacheche_anis> It's life JanC :) you can't stay always in touch with every boday :/


[04:15] <nonau> This has been bugging me for a bit.  In Ubuntu Studio the windows won't maximize when I click on the title bar.  I've tested it in Xubuntu beta and it worked just fine for me.
[04:25] <nonau> I can repeat this behavior on three computers, all running beta 2 with or without updates.
[04:27] <holstein> hmmm... wonder what controls that
[04:27] <holstein> could be something that was done to be more gnome2 like
[04:31] <nonau> There is an option under Settings Manager>Window Manager>Advanced that is for the doubleclick action on the task bar.  By default it is set to maximize.
[04:31] <holstein> not sure what that looks like in the build scripts or whatever though
[04:32] <nonau> In any case, all of the options there are broken for the GUI settings.
[04:33] <holstein> yeah.. they might have been edited for some reason to be more gnome2 like
[04:33] <holstein> im not certain
[04:34] <len-nb> So far as I know we copied xubuntu settings pretty much. You will likely find our current settings are either xfce default or xubuntu 11.10
[04:36] <holstein> i feel like its being implied that the settings are "greyed out", or not configurable
[04:36] <nonau> No, the setting is configurable.  It just happens to do nothing when configured.
[04:36] <len-nb> I can't reboot right now as I am uploading to bzr.
[04:37] <len-nb> in xubuntu 11.10 (what I am using now) hide window minimizes... but maximise is default.
[04:38] <holstein> doing nothing when configured means its not configurable to me
[04:39] <len-nb> Ja, I will also look at it when I can reboot. I'll try it on todays live iso
[04:42] <len-nb> There is a "nothing" configuration. maybe something is switched (label to action).
[04:42] <len-nb> nonau are you using english?
[04:49] <nonau> Yes.  The language is English.
[04:54] <len-nb> OK so it is not a translation problem.
[04:55] <len-nb> Have you tried other options? Do any of them work? I have to admit I haven't tested that part of things.
[04:55] <nonau> Nope.  None of the options did anything when I switched through them.
[05:04] <nonau> I can test this again, later.  For now I need to reboot into another OS to get some work done.
[05:11] <len-nb> ScottL, I don't know if you are up or not... but here is stuff for the plymouth text theme: https://code.launchpad.net/~len-ovenwerks/+junk/ubuntustudio-look
[05:35] <len-live> Ok, rebooted to US beta2. Checked out the above problem (double click on title bar). I found that I could set all types of actions (shade, hide, max, fill and nothing) and they would work for me.
[05:39] <len-live> I did find that getting my double click timing was not so easy. Increasing double click time helped. Note that this is netbook with a touchpad not a mouse. The sensitivity of the touch pad affects this too.
[08:33] <astraljava> holstein: He's gone now, but for me the double-clicking does maximize windows.
[08:34] <astraljava> holstein: However, I turned compositing off. Could that mess up things?
[08:35] <astraljava> len_: Oh I see you tested it too. I'm quite sure there was some other weird error having to do with that.
[10:44] <astraljava> Ok, there's a new version of lowlatency kernel in the archives, please help testing it, thanks!
[10:45] <astraljava> Thanks, Luke, again!
[10:48] <astraljava> Hmm... well it's not there _yet_, but got accepted, anyhoo.
[10:49] <knome> heh
[13:57] <astraljava> Ok, now this is f***ed up. I have installed this session that I'm writing this from, from US dvd. I have this in dpkg.log(s): http://paste.ubuntu.com/914560/, and _yet_ I have this regarding one of our most important meta-packages: http://paste.ubuntu.com/914561/
[13:58] <astraljava> I'm ' ' close to fainting.
[13:58] <astraljava> Somebody please explain before I go banging my head against a brick wall.
[14:00] <astraljava> ...also, bug #973373. *facepalm*
[14:03] <astraljava> Well, I believe that bug is easier to explain, it's just missing the python-changesettings dependency.
[14:03] <astraljava> I'll fix it right away.
[14:07] <len_> scott-work I am on my way out. Just wanted to make sure you saw this: https://code.launchpad.net/~len-ovenwerks/+junk/ubuntustudio-look
[14:10] <astraljava> micahg: I know you're really busy, but since you know ubuntustudio-meta better than any other in-the-know-of-Standards-Version, is it okay to bump it to 3.9.3 to fix the lintian warning? I know I am supposed to read about it, but... personal life gets in the way.
[14:44] <astraljava> micahg: TheMuso: I'd appreciate some packaging help here. up-to-date precise pbuilder build run for ubuntustudio-meta gives me: dpkg-gencontrol: warning: Recommends field of package ubuntustudio-graphics: unknown substitution variable ${germinate:Recommends}
[14:46] <astraljava> Failed to find more info about it on google. I will head on to -motu now, but thought you guys know more about this particular package, hence asked here first.
[15:04] <astraljava> So yeah, -audio-plugins gets installed, but not -audio. This'll be fun...
[16:41] <micahg> astraljava: idr what the standards version bumps offhand
[16:41] <micahg> astraljava: as for the meta, that's because the seed is all depends
[16:44] <astraljava> micahg: Right. Laney said I could most likely ignore the germinate warnings. I suppose the standards can too, it doesn't seem to break anything so far. But I'll read up on it for the Q cycle. Would that do?
[16:50] <micahg> astraljava: sure (I still have chromium at 3.8.3 since I don't have time to fix it up, but that's a much more complicated case)
[16:52] <astraljava> micahg: I bet.
[19:05] <astraljava> Why is it that whenever I try to get something done, there are network issues?! *grrr*
[19:16] <astraljava> micahg: TheMuso: Whenever you have time, please check bug #973373, the attached debdiff should fix the issue.
[19:16] <astraljava> I don't know why I overlooked this in the past, it's too obvious. Oh well...
[19:16] <astraljava> Live and learn.
[19:41] <scott-work> astraljava: heh, that is probably my fault from when i made the transitional package
[19:43] <astraljava> scott-work: Right, I dunno. But whatever, it'll be fixed now. :)
[19:44]  * astraljava is slightly annoyed that the revision on bzr/LP isn't matching the package version. :p
[22:51] <len_> astraljava, holstein, ScottL: the problem nonau reported yesterday (?) with the double clicking on the window title bar not working.... I was able to reproduce it.
[22:53] <len_> This time on my desktop with a real mouse. It seems to be a mouse problem rather than a window manager problem.
[22:54] <len_> setting the double click time from 250 to 300 or 350 made the trouble go away.
[22:56] <len_> This is odd as I can double click other things (opening folders for example) with no problem. (or less problems anyway)
[22:57] <len_> Still it may be an idea to increase the double click time by default to 300.
[22:58] <len_> If anyone talks to nonau again please ask them to change the mouse setting and try again.


[13:49] <LocutusOfBorg> for gst-plugins-bad1.0 ppc64el and s390x failures I'm out of ideas
[13:50] <LocutusOfBorg> I tried gcc-9, -O0 optimization, I tried to rebuild underlying libraries
[13:50] <LocutusOfBorg> to debug in a qemu environment, to use strace, but I failed
[13:50] <LocutusOfBorg> any idea?
[15:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: 49 entries have been added or removed
[20:22] <enyc> LocutusOfBorg: fwiw, looks like 20.04.2 will be hwe kernel 5.8 next month and linuxmint to release a 5.8 based iso sometime soon.  Even 5.10 kernel usage not uncommon to support new stuff....    I'd like to see vbox 6.1.16 (which *seems* to be very good stable and you put in a 5.10 compatibility patch -- is that complete???) SRU'ed to focal soon *or* wait for 6.1.18 to stabilize nad do so there,
[20:22] <enyc> with good testing in all cases, decisions-decisions!.
[21:17] <LocutusOfBorg> enyc, its already in unapproved queue, ping SRU admins to accept it :)
[21:29] <enyc> LocutusOfBorg: oooo, any bug-report or link to queue , etc?
[21:29]  * enyc +1 like to test etc
[21:33] <enyc> LocutusOfBorg: oh, found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox/+bug/1901904 =) etc
[21:34] <enyc> LocutusOfBorg: whats' with separate "virtualbox-hwe" , not seen that before ...........
[22:04] <LocutusOfBorg> enyc, it gives you guest-dkms guest-utils and guest-x11 when you use hwe stack on guest
[22:42] <enyc> LocutusOfBorg: i see
[22:42] <enyc> LocutusOfBorg: i wonder if there is anything like  mintreport / mintdrivers / etc.   that tells you / 'reccomends'  such packages when the relevant hardware config (e.g. runnig niside virtualbox) is detected
[22:43] <LocutusOfBorg> don't know
[22:43] <LocutusOfBorg> I never wrote one
[22:49] <enyc> ok =)
[23:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-yi-language [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [0.19.0-1] (no packageset)
[23:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-yi-language [s390x] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [0.19.0-1] (no packageset)
[23:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: haskell-yi-language [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [0.19.0-1] (no packageset)


[00:16] <dewman> tgm4883, is 24.1 getting pushed out to the repos soon? ;)
[00:17] <dewman> tgm4883, disregard....I have had a few rum and cokes.... lol
[00:18] <tgm4883> dewman, yep, should be in the repos already
[00:20] <dewman> yeah, like i said, few rum and cokes.....always helps to check first before asking...hehehe
[06:42] <lwizardl> hello
[06:43] <lwizardl> I just installed the 11.04 version of Mythbuntu 64bit and on my tv when i tell it to select HD1080i output using the nvidia drivers the screen only displays in the center of the screen. how can i get it to calibrate and use the full screen
[06:44] <tgm4883> lwizardl, what TV?
[06:46] <lwizardl> Sylvania 6842PEM
[06:46] <lwizardl> its a Plasma EDTV max displays are 720p or 1080i
[06:47] <tgm4883> lwizardl, how do you have the mythbox hooked up to it?
[06:48] <lwizardl> from the round multi connector to component video (looks like a s-video to rgb)
[06:48] <tgm4883> Have you tried outputting at 852 x 480 pixel resolution
[06:50] <lwizardl> doesn't show that resolution
[06:50] <lwizardl> i get in my display options
[06:51] <tgm4883> what does it give you with () x 480?
[06:51] <lwizardl> 1024x768, 800x600, 720x480, 640x480, 400x300, 320x240, 320x200
[06:51] <lwizardl> and none of those seem to be right
[06:52] <tgm4883> hmm, not sure then
[06:53] <lwizardl> think I should redo the install and select the 720 option ?
[06:54] <lwizardl> and is there a generic usb ir dongle setting? i have a unknown brand model i was wanting to use for now
[06:54] <lwizardl> http://wizardsarcade.com/images/RemoteDongles.jpg
[06:57] <mycosys> lwizardl does your tv have hdmi?
[06:57] <lwizardl> no
[06:57] <mycosys> or dvi?
[06:57] <mycosys> or vga?
[06:57] <lwizardl> its about 3 years old or so
[06:57] <lwizardl> nope
[06:58] <mycosys> should have hdmi if it a 3yo plasma
[06:58] <mycosys> i would check again
[06:58] <lwizardl> component x2, composite x2, s-video x2
[06:58] <lwizardl> trust me i know my tv
[06:58] <mycosys> wow - that is crap
[06:58] <lwizardl> doesn't even have a tv tunder in it
[06:58] <mycosys> you ntsc or pal?
[06:59] <lwizardl> ntsc
[06:59] <mycosys> k, nv cards default to that
[06:59] <mycosys> is the tv set to be the only display?
[07:00] <lwizardl> yes
[07:00] <mycosys> wow
[07:00] <lwizardl> i have to use a lcd to setup the computer due to rolling screen but after the system restarted the lcd turns off and the tv only displays
[07:01] <mycosys> http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/173.14.09/README/chapter-16.html
[07:01] <Zinn> [us.download.nvidia.com] Chapter 16. Configuring TV-Out
[07:01] <lwizardl> this is the first and last sylvania tv i will ever own for sure
[07:01] <mycosys> oh - disconnect the lcd to preserve ur sanity
[07:01] <lwizardl> mycosys, did that after turning the system off
[07:01] <lwizardl> and before restarting
[07:03] <mycosys> set "tvstandard" "HD1080i"
[07:03] <mycosys> as detailed in that link
[07:03] <mycosys> is in xorg.conf
[07:05] <mycosys> also add this to your ~/.xsessionrc
[07:05] <mycosys> nvidia-settings -a [gpu:0]/TVFlickerFilter=1 -a [gpu:0]/TVOverScan=66
[07:05] <mycosys> change the tv overscan setting to suit ur tv
[07:05] <mycosys> u can figure out what is right with the nvidia settings gui
[07:06] <mycosys> lwizardl:
[07:06] <lwizardl> ok
[07:06] <lwizardl> so don't edit the xorg.conf file just use that command ?
[07:07] <lwizardl> i was just creating a backup of the conf file
[07:09] <lwizardl> ?
[07:12] <lwizardl> ok I had to retype the information so i didn't do all the caps to save time
[07:12] <lwizardl> http://pastebin.com/MBJ51ecr
[07:12] <Zinn> [pastebin.com] section "screen" identifier "default screen" defaultdepth 24 endsection - Pastebin.com
[07:13] <mycosys> goes in the screen section of the xorg.conf
[07:13] <mycosys>     Option         "TVStandard" "HD576i"
[07:14] <mycosys> worth noting "    Option         "Coolbits" "1" " lets you under/overclock
[07:14] <mycosys> gotta go feed the dogs - bbl
[07:15] <mycosys> lwizardl:
[07:15] <lwizardl> k
[07:16] <lwizardl> lol
[07:16] <lwizardl> ok it filled about 90% of the screen
[07:16] <lwizardl> but now its rolling
[07:31] <lwizardl> ok what ever the display is during the main boot screen (the standard linux boot screen has install, try, test memory, etc) uses for the resolution that fills like 90% of then screen
[07:32] <lwizardl> redoing the install again
[07:44] <lwizardl> and selected the 720p option
[14:21] <qwebirc22613> hi just installed 11.04 and cant connect to database, tried the troubleshooting page and reset password and checked groups.
[14:22] <qwebirc22613> no luck, what else is there
[14:24] <qwebirc22613> bump
[17:25] <dewman> I dont think a bump is going to help on irc.
[17:34] <rhpot1991> nope not at all
[17:36] <dewman> ;)
[18:03] <tmkt> 0.24.1 available via repos yet?
[18:04] <tmkt> nm.
[18:08] <tmkt> actually..no nm...installed the most recent mythbuntu-repos
[18:09] <tmkt> and dpkg-reconfigure..and apt-get update..and still at 0.24.0
[18:15] <hpeter> hi
[18:15] <hpeter> are the "special" format options for 4k sectors still needed under ubuntu 11.04?
[18:19] <rhpot1991> tmkt: if you are running repos then you will automagically get it from 0.24
[18:20] <rhpot1991> it didn't require a scheema upgrade so there will not be a separate ppa location for it
[18:42] <tgm4883> tmkt, I've updated the release page. I hope that makes it clear. http://www.mythbuntu.org/mythtv/0.24.1
[18:42] <Zinn> [www.mythbuntu.org] MythTV 0.24.1 has been released | Mythbuntu
[18:43] <tgm4883> Note: may take 15 minutes to update
[18:45] <tmkt> reading
[18:46] <tmkt> ok..but I can't seem to upgrade to 24.1 ..apt-get update/upgrade gives me 0.24.0
[18:48] <tmkt> did a dpkg-reconfigure and selected 0.24.x
[18:58] <tgm4883> superm1, ping
[18:59] <tgm4883> tmkt, looks like something fishy going on. I'll look into it
[19:01] <tmkt> thanks
[19:21] <sabhain> does a system need to be "up to date" in it's current release before upgrading to another release?
[19:23] <rhpot1991> sabhain: it should be
[19:35] <sabhain> rhpot1991: thanks.  May explain why my upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04 punted early on last night.
[20:24] <qwebirc14632> hi chat
[20:24] <qwebirc14632> sorry for my broken english, i speak only italian
[20:27] <qwebirc14632> not found upgrade mythtv 0.24.1 in maverick, but found in lucid. the website http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/0.24/ubuntu/dists/maverick/ date last modified is 14 may!!!
[20:27] <Zinn> [ppa.launchpad.net] Index of /mythbuntu/0.24/ubuntu/dists/maverick
[20:50] <tgm4883> qwebirc14632, known issue, I'm looking into it
[21:32] <qwebirc14632> thank you tgm4883
[21:32] <tgm4883> qwebirc14632, should be fixed tonight
[21:33] <qwebirc14632> i wait!! Thank you for work!
[21:34]  * tgm4883 takes credit for superm1 fixing it
[21:34] <tgm4883> yw
[21:35] <superm1> hum, the maverick problem might be something different
[21:35] <superm1> i fixed a master problem
[21:39] <qwebirc14632> I thought it was more simple
[21:42] <superm1> i think i see what the problem is
[21:42] <superm1> it seems that mythtv/VERSION is overwritten in our build process and this is a new file used
[21:42] <superm1> in 0.24.1 to identify the build
[21:44] <qwebirc14632> complicated ...... greeting superm1!
[22:06] <qwebirc14632> Good Night chat (in Italy is 23:05 pm) and GOOD WORK!!!!! Thank's for your time!


[03:53]  * wrst_irssi keeps trying new things
[13:49] <Xpistos> Morning all
[13:49] <wrst> morning Xpistos
[13:49] <Xpistos> wrst
[13:49] <wrst> Xpistos: how you doing
[13:49] <wrst> ?
[13:49] <Xpistos> tired today, but good you
[13:50] <wrst> yeah pretty good watching it snow
[20:31] <cyberanger> afternoon everyone
[20:34] <wrst> hey cyberanger its been quiet here!
[20:36] <cyberanger> yeah too quiet ;-)
[20:36] <wrst> glad you are here to liven it up, i'm still unsure about irc on my phone cyberanger
[20:37] <cyberanger> well, how about ssh on it?
[20:37] <cyberanger> ;-)
[20:38] <wrst> i can't get it to run in the background cyberanger it cuts off, until i updated my phone that wasn't an issue
[20:38] <cyberanger> connectbot?
[20:38] <wrst> yes cyberanger
[20:41] <cyberanger> not an issue for me, are you on froyo?
[20:45] <wrst> froyo?
[20:48] <wrst> 2.2 ?
[20:49] <cyberanger> yeah
[20:50] <cyberanger> idk then, something in your model, verizon?
[20:50] <wrst> well it did work in the back ground until i updated my phone
[20:54] <wrst> cyberanger: when i clear the settings it works again
[20:55] <cyberanger> weird
[20:57] <wrst-irssi> yeah I have connectbot and connectbot irssI I wonder if that could be an issue
[20:58] <wrst-irssi> hmm now cbirssi is working also
[20:59] <wrst-irssi> cyberanger now if I can figure tab complete out
[21:02] <cyberanger> wrst-irssi: having both could explain it
[21:03] <wrst-irssi> yeah maybe any idea on a tab key cyberanger?
[21:07] <wrst-irssi> actually this is the easiest to use client just need to get it all set up
[21:07] <cyberanger> due to the differences in our phones, no
[21:07] <cyberanger> but I can think of some people to ask
[21:07] <wrst-irssi> I am googling now
[21:08] <Xpistos> wrst-irssi: Irssi huh? what happened to quassel?
[21:08] <wrst-irssi> Xpistos got an android phone
[21:09] <Xpistos> I wish I had an andriod phone
[21:09] <Xpistos> for fuck's sake
[21:09] <Xpistos> how many updates am I gong to get in a day
[21:09] <cyberanger> that and wrst-irssi realized irssi is better ;-)
[21:10] <wrst-irssi> no wouldn't say that cyberanger but maybe better for me
[21:11] <cyberanger> really I would ;-)
[21:12] <cyberanger> easier to run on a netbook
[21:12] <wrst-irssi> ha ha
[21:13] <wrst-irssi> it is a lot less resource intensive
[21:17] <cyberanger> and on a netbook, less resources to use
[21:17] <wrst-irssi> yeah I haveused quassel on netbooks its not too hoggish
[21:20] <cyberanger> well, the eee 2G surf is so little, I had to install a cli install to an sd card instead
[21:21] <wrst-irssi> that's little
[21:22] <cyberanger> that's before factoring in the size of quassel too (ssh client is preinstalled, done ;-))
[21:23] <wrst-irssi> well you do have to havea lot of qt stuff
[21:24] <cyberanger> too much
[21:25] <wrst-irssi> yeah praxrically all of kde
[21:25] <cyberanger> considering I have near 0 qt and gtk items on here (I'm sure there's a piece here and there, but it's as slim as can be)
[21:28] <wrst-irssi> cyberanger looks like I may need you to help me set irssi up :)
[21:37] <wrst-irssi> ok cyberanger  guess i may convert it seems to work the best from anything out there
[22:57] <cyberanger> wrst: sounds like a plan
[23:06] <cyberanger> Worldspice_Will: sorry for the well overdue welcome, Welcome to the Tennessee LoCo
[23:41] <wrst> hey Worldspice_Will!
[23:42] <wrst> cyberanger:  not for sure if that's how i'm going still searching may do weechat but it just doesn't look right on the phone
[23:58] <cyberanger> again, varies by model
[23:58] <wesley> yeah its more in me not knowing how to adjust the window in weecaht i think cyberanger