[02:48] <angeldarkholme> any of you guys knows how can I do to make the gnome network manager show the wireless networks? if I use "iwlist eth1 scan" I can see them but they are not shown in the network manager
[02:48] <yaustar> Paste of the xorg file: http://rafb.net/p/rhob5u88.html
[02:49] <ccherrett> I saw a program that uses a donut shaped graphical display to represent hard drive useage. any idea what it's name is?
[02:49] <CheeseGardener> Is there any way to tell if my drive is fragmented or not?
[02:49] <CheeseGardener> Just, curious?
[02:49] <SB-X> CheeseGardener: no idea, you'll probably have to search google for that
[02:49] <Insane`KDE> Can anybody help me use arts to configure a sort of global equalizer?
[02:49] <SB-X> CheeseGardener: since it's a pretty rare requirement
[02:49] <CheeseGardener> Oh, so no one on linux ever has to defragment?
[02:50] <astro76> CheeseGardener, I'm trying to find a good explanation I read recently, from what I remember the filesystem looks for large enough space to store the files
[02:50] <ccherrett> CheeseGardener: it likely is not fragmented to any degree you need to check
[02:50] <Pici> ccherrett: baobab
[02:50] <bradley> yaustar: if you in fact have a synaptic touchpad, then add the following to your xorg
[02:50] <ccherrett> Pici: ah I think that was it thanks :)
[02:50] <CheeseGardener> Oh... so linux doesn't fragment because it tries to store it's files towads on end of the disk, and not just anywhere like XP?
[02:50] <soneil> I believe fsck will give you some info on fragmentation .. it'll tell you something like 0.7% non-contiguous
[02:50] <d4rkmonkey> Anyone know of a program to give more specific errors with .tcl files? when I load it into aMSN I know what the error means, theres just a 300 line range of where it could be
[02:50] <ccherrett> CheeseGardener: the ext file system fragments just a little but does not compound or continue like windows does
[02:50] <CheeseGardener> one end**
[02:50] <zax1> tryin partion resizer from hirens cd tools
[02:51] <SB-X> CheeseGardener: try here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3#Defragmentation
[02:51] <ShackJac1> ccherrett: baobab  It's the "Disk  Usage Analyzer" under Accessories... Dunno if same one... but it's like circles n' stuff...
[02:51] <SB-X> CheeseGardener: for more information about linux partitions and defragmentation
[02:51] <CheeseGardener> Oh, I see, it only fragments to a certain extent but the fragments get overwritten?
[02:51] <ccherrett> CheeseGardener: smarter file system
[02:51] <miro> Is there any unix system you would suggest to an unix beginner (just used knoppix sometimes for backing up my drives which were destroyed by windows :o) ?
[02:51] <CheeseGardener> and linux almost cleans itself up?
[02:52] <SB-X> miro: ubuntu?
[02:52] <lunargrove> Hello, I know that Ubuntu PPC is now "unofficial" but does anyone have a download link, as it's no longer available on the site?
[02:52] <ccherrett> CheeseGardener: basically
[02:52] <miro> alright.. didn't know whether it's not too difficult
[02:52] <miro> friend of me sweares that debian etch is the best :o
[02:52] <CheeseGardener> Wow,... how would I ever need to defrag it?  I mean, if linux cleans itself why would I ever need a defragmenter?
[02:52] <SB-X> miro: nope, it's goal is to be the most "user friendly" distro around
[02:52] <ccherrett> CheeseGardener: you will have to read a bit more on it but it keeps track of where contiguious files are so it can organize better
[02:52] <yaustar> bradley: "The following?"
[02:52] <CheeseGardener> Oh, that seems cool :)
[02:53] <miro> thank you
[02:53] <CheeseGardener> That must be why it runs so smooth
[02:53] <ccherrett> CheeseGardener: I have never defraged linux in 7 years of using it
[02:53] <bradley> yaustar:Section "InputDevice"
[02:53] <bradley> 	Identifier	"Synaptics Touchpad"
[02:53] <bradley> 	Driver		"synaptics"
[02:53] <bradley> 	Option		"SendCoreEvents"	"true"
[02:53] <bradley> 	Option		"Device"		"/dev/psaux"
[02:53] <bradley> 	Option		"Protocol"		"auto-dev"
[02:53] <bradley> 	Option		"HorizScrollDelta"	"0"
[02:53] <bradley> 	Option		"MaxTapTime"		"0"
[02:53] <bradley> EndSection
[02:53] <CheeseGardener> and it still runs smooth?
[02:53] <ShackJac1> !paste | bradley
[02:53] <ubotu> bradley: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:53] <yaustar> cheers
[02:53] <ccherrett> CheeseGardener: always has for me
[02:53] <bradley> oops :D
[02:53] <CheeseGardener> Wow... nice :).  That makes my life a lot easier
[02:54] <CheeseGardener> No viruses, no fragments....
[02:54] <CheeseGardener> why wouldn't someone want to switch to linux?
[02:54] <CheeseGardener> lol
[02:54] <SB-X> CheeseGardener: oh good, you already figured out the part about not needing antivirus :)
[02:54] <ccherrett> CheeseGardener: I have never figured that question out
[02:54] <jerkface03> i use linux for my subversion server :)
[02:54] <jerkface03> 500gb hd, strictly for svn
[02:54] <CheeseGardener> Nope.   A virus wouldn't work well on linux anyway right?
[02:54] <bradley> yaustar: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32299/
[02:54] <yaustar> bradley: Do I need to restart or logout for this to take effect?
[02:54] <d4rkmonkey> CheeseGardener, software compatibility?
[02:54] <CheeseGardener> I mean, to install you have to enter a password
[02:54] <starz> hey
[02:54] <Insane`KDE> I love linux because of it's huge open-source repository :P
[02:54] <CheeseGardener> so a virus wouldn't be able to start installing at random
[02:55] <bradley> yes, you'll need to logout, but you also have to add the shmconfig line given to you earlier
[02:55] <Insane`KDE> I think it's pretty lacking though in terms of popularity (and gaming)
[02:55] <starz> is installing with a sepeate /boot partition nessisarally destructive?
[02:55] <ccherrett> CheeseGardener: it has not registry to hide in
[02:55] <ShackJac1> I love Linux cause Linux loves me :)
[02:55] <mneptok> !offtopic
[02:55] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:55] <CheeseGardener> Yeah, linux really saves you a lot of money too
[02:55] <pawan> how to load beryl
[02:55] <astro76> yaustar, after you add the line with shmconfig, log out and restart the X server by hittting ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:55] <CheeseGardener> you don't need all these extra programs
[02:55] <starz> !beryl
[02:55] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:55] <bradley> yaustar: also, the maxtaptime disables touchpad tapping.  if you dont want that, remove that line
[02:55] <ccherrett> CheeseGardener: it helps not to give any old user Administrative privs by default like Windows
[02:55] <CheeseGardener> like windows.  Windows costs so much to maintain
[02:55] <zax1> paragon partition magic seems to work, hope i havent mangled it all up
[02:56] <d4rkmonkey> Anyone here work on .tcl files at all?
[02:56] <d4rkmonkey> I need a program that can atleast tell me what line the error is on, or like, a bit more specific than aMSN is giving me when I'm loading the script.
[02:56] <CheeseGardener> It's really a great operating system.  I only use windows for small things like my MP3 player
[02:56] <yaustar> bradley: cheers BRB
[02:56] <Insane`KDE> Does anybody here know of a sort of global equalizer that I can use to regulate the end level of my sound output?
[02:56] <CheeseGardener> player*
[02:56] <CheeseGardener> Which isn't supported easily on linux.
[02:56] <ccherrett> zax1: if you ever are in need you can run the gparted live CD for free
[02:57] <d4rkmonkey> CheeseGardener, what MP3 Player is it?
[02:57] <zax1> ccherrett: it doesnt work for me
[02:57] <CheeseGardener> Iriver clix 2gig
[02:57] <ccherrett> zax1: oh why not?
[02:57] <d4rkmonkey> CheeseGardener, oh, I dunno what that is lol
[02:57] <CheeseGardener> There is only one thing that works with it.  Gnomad2
[02:57] <angeldarkholme> any of you guys knows how can I do to make the gnome network manager show the wireless networks? if I use "iwlist eth1 scan" I can see them but they are not shown in the network manager
[02:57] <lunargrove> does anyone have a link to an ISO for PPC?
[02:57] <zax1> i unmounted my sda2 ext3 partition then tryed to resize it, and it gave me an error saying its mounted
[02:57] <CheeseGardener> I prefer windows to upload to it.
[02:58] <ccherrett> zax1: you have to run it from the live cd and not while linux is running
[02:58] <ShackJac1> CheeseGardener: If you can switch to UMS (mass storage mode) should work with most anything in Linux...
[02:58] <zax1> ccherrett: i know , i did
[02:58] <keen> i just installed beryl and xgl on my laptop, but do not have any of the emerald themes, where do i get those?
[02:58] <sport> hey guise, im trying my hand at compiling my own apps, i understand the whole unzipping part, but what is the cmd to download the package for a website?
[02:58] <CheeseGardener> I don't think I can
[02:58] <CheeseGardener> All updates come in the firmware
[02:58] <CheeseGardener> and they use MPT
[02:58] <CheeseGardener> MTP*
[02:58] <ccherrett> zax1: strange. it should not be mounted
[02:59] <yaustar> bradley: No luck, still have the same problem: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=53iaqdw
[02:59] <Elfshadow> Has anyone got nvidia SLI on ubuntu working?
[02:59] <kitche> sport: what do you mean?
[02:59] <keen> sport: i think the command is wget "url"
[02:59] <zax1> they all come mounted as i boot to the live cd, i cant then have more then one unmounted - as i mount more other become mounted again
[02:59] <CheeseGardener> Is it possible to reduce the size of a NTFS external with linux?
[02:59] <CheeseGardener> Or no?  because it's NTFS it might not work
[02:59] <sport> keen thx
[02:59] <zax1> if i unmount dev/sda2 the linux one, and then resizr i get the error
[02:59] <ccherrett> zax1: are you using the gparted live cd?
[03:00] <zax1> yes
[03:00] <bradley> yaustar: could you show me your new xorg file?
[03:00] <ccherrett> zax1: strange
[03:00] <zax1> i kniw
[03:00] <zax1> seems like a windows behaVIOR
[03:00] <ccherrett> zax1: I have gotten errors if the drive needs to be repaired first
[03:00] <Elfshadow> I ran nvidia-xconfig -sli=yes But is that the right one
[03:00] <ccherrett> zax1: have you tried fsck on the disk first
[03:00] <keen> does anyone know where i get the emerald themes for beryl?
[03:00] <yaustar> bradley: http://rafb.net/p/Hrc6jQ10.html
[03:00] <setuid> Is there any way to get 2.6.21 on Feisty? I need to evaluate my ACPI with PowerTop
[03:01] <zax1> its telling me fix errors first, but when i look at the details, all it says is that its still mounted
[03:01] <zax1> no, whats that
[03:01] <Jason5876> 2.6.21 kernel, probably have to build from source
[03:01] <astro76> yaustar, you need to add this to your ServerLayout section: 	Inputdevice	"Synaptics Touchpad"
[03:01] <CheeseGardener> Also, will I ever have to scan my hard drive for errors with linux?
[03:01] <CheeseGardener> Does linux have a hard drive error scanner?
[03:01] <bradley> yaustar: i dont know that it makes a difference, but move the touchpad section to right after the configured mouse section
[03:02] <Pici> CheeseGardener: Yes, fsck. which it automatically runs every 30 or so boots
[03:02] <setuid> Jason5876, Sure, but I've been building kernels from source for years (I wrote the #2 kernel howto), and when I try with Ubuntu, it refuses to boot
[03:02] <setuid> Jason5876, Using the same /proc/kconfig that was used to build the running kernel, etc.
[03:02] <CheeseGardener> Oh so linux will scan itself for me every so often?
[03:02] <zax1> right, thanls u all
[03:02] <Elfshadow> Is "SLI" "yes" the right option for SLI
[03:02] <Pici> CheeseGardener: exactly :)
[03:02] <yaustar> bradley: astro76: BRB
[03:02] <zax1> 2 am is too late for an old fart like me
[03:02] <zax1> night
[03:02] <CheeseGardener> what's the command to run it?
[03:02] <zax1> and thankx again
[03:02] <CheeseGardener> fsck?
[03:03] <CheeseGardener> I press alt-F2 and run fsck that is?
[03:03] <ccherrett> CheeseGardener: file system check
[03:03] <Midgewa> anyone an expert on the installation of ubuntu?
[03:03] <ccherrett> CheeseGardener: can fix file system errors
[03:03] <CheeseGardener> right but, how do I run it?  ALt-F2?
[03:03] <astro76> CheeseGardener, from a terminal
[03:03] <Pici> CheeseGardener: You'll have to unmount your partitions first.
[03:03] <astro76> CheeseGardener, but the filessystem has to be unmounted
[03:03] <CheeseGardener> Right but, what is the full line to start a disk check?
[03:04] <ccherrett> CheeseGardener: you can set it to check on your next boot
[03:04] <CheeseGardener> just fsck?
[03:04] <bradley> yaustar: also, try setting smhconfig to "on" instead of "true". for some reason that's rining a bell for me
[03:04] <CheeseGardener> or do I have to put sudo?
[03:04] <yaustar> astro76: bradley: New Xorg file: http://rafb.net/p/ATjclf85.html No luck again
[03:04] <Jason5876> setuid  -  was not meaning to patronize.
[03:04] <astro76> CheeseGardener, listen to ccherrett
[03:04] <CheeseGardener> How do I set it to check on the next boot?
[03:04] <CheeseGardener> ok
[03:04] <Midgewa> Im trying to install ubuntu from the cd, i put it in and selected "run or install ubuntu" - but now it has the error: "/bin/sh: cant access tty; job control turned off"
[03:05] <geronimo_> !nvidia
[03:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:05] <keen> does anyone here use compiz fusion?
[03:05] <Don64> I installed amorak on ubuntu regular and it installed several KDE apps.  When IO uninstalled amorak it didn't uninstall the dependent files and i'm getting an error how do i remove these files?
[03:05] <ccherrett> CheeseGardener: for the most part if it needs to run on boot linux will run it
[03:05] <CheeseGardener> how do I make it run on the next boot?
[03:05] <ccherrett> CheeseGardener: otherwise you need to boot into runlevel 1
[03:05] <Don64> it was about an hour ago
[03:06] <yaustar> bradley: "On" didn't work :(
[03:06] <CheeseGardener> run level 1?
[03:06] <Midgewa> Im trying to install ubuntu from the cd, i put it in and selected "run or install ubuntu" - but now it has the error: "/bin/sh: cant access tty; job control turned off"
[03:06] <Pici> CheeseGardener: sudo touch /forcefsck   to force it upon next boot
[03:06] <ccherrett> CheeseGardener: you need to modify your boot command to say runlevel 1 at the end
[03:06] <CheeseGardener> right
[03:06] <Pici> !effects  | keen
[03:06] <ubotu> keen: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[03:06] <CheeseGardener> after splash right?
[03:06] <bradley> yaustar: did you leave it as lowercase?
[03:06] <astro76> yaustar, the only difference I see from mine is that I don't have "MaxTapTime" in my touchpad section
[03:06] <yaustar> bradley: yes
[03:06] <ccherrett> CheeseGardener: try what Pici said
[03:06] <CheeseGardener> it should say  Kernel [some stuff here]  splash runlevel1
[03:06] <ccherrett> CheeseGardener: I did not know that
[03:07] <ccherrett> CheeseGardener: it is runlevel 1
[03:07] <astro76> yaustar, this is mine: http://rafb.net/p/pd4nzZ28.html
[03:07] <Midgewa> Im trying to install ubuntu from the cd, i put it in and selected "run or install ubuntu" - but now it has the error: "/bin/sh: cant access tty; job control turned off"
[03:07] <John1> does tor/privproxy work with program such as gaim?
[03:07] <TiMiDo> !fonts
[03:07] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[03:07] <John1> or just browser
[03:07] <CheeseGardener> right but, pici if I force one, will linux automatically do everything it needs to do to scan, like runlevel 1?
[03:07] <Don64> is there a way to remove files in synaptic by when they were installed?
[03:08] <Pici> CheeseGardener: It will do it the next time you boot, right at the beginning.
[03:08] <CheeseGardener> ok
[03:08] <bradley> yaustar: oh...you know maybe why?
[03:08] <CheeseGardener> sudo touch /forcefsck right?
[03:08] <Pici> CheeseGardener: Yep
[03:08] <yaustar> bradley: ?
[03:08] <bradley> yaustar: we have to add the synpatic driver at the end of the xorg file as well
[03:08] <geronimo_> help, I'm lost in nvidia
[03:08] <John1> does tor/privproxy work with program such as gaim?
[03:08] <bradley> yaustar: give me second
[03:08] <CheeseGardener> what does "touch" mean?
[03:09] <astro76> CheeseGardener, updates file modification time, also creates an empty file if filename doesn't exist
[03:09] <sebleblanc> Cheese: Touch is either : update a file's timestamp
[03:09] <sebleblanc> or create an empty file
[03:09] <sebleblanc> (it can also mean something else, but it's not related to computers ;))
[03:09] <CheeseGardener> why does that need to be included before /forcefsck?
[03:09] <bradley> yaustar: add Inputdevice	"Synaptics Touchpad" under the server layout at the bottom of the xorg
[03:09] <yaustar> Already have
[03:10] <yaustar> Does the order matter though?
[03:10] <astro76> no
[03:10] <bradley> yaustar: ahhh, i see it now.  missed it earlier
[03:10] <Pici> CheeseGardener: Because the forcefsck file doesnt exist. And it needs to exist for you to force fscking at the next boot
[03:10] <CheeseGardener> so it needs to create a disk check file to disk check is what you're saying?
[03:11] <yaustar> I believe it is a Synaptic touchpad since the Windows drivers worked under XP
[03:11] <CheeseGardener> and touch allows it to make files?
[03:11] <sebleblanc> Cheese: I believe the bootloader checks for a file named "forcefsck". if it exists then a fsck is forced
[03:11] <geronimo_> does anyone in here run an nvidia card on ubuntu 7.04, amd 64?
[03:11] <geronimo_> !nvidia
[03:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:11] <bradley> yaustar: its odd though that Ubuntu didn't recognize it on install
[03:11] <Pici> CheeseGardener: Exactly.
[03:11] <CheeseGardener> Makes sense :)
[03:11] <yaustar> I was a little surprised as well... :/
[03:11] <CheeseGardener> It's like ... if I remember the little programming I did, you need to create a variable first.
[03:12] <CheeseGardener> Before you start using it.
[03:12] <sebleblanc> The (empty) file's sole purpose is to indicate "i want this disk to be fsck'ed"
[03:12] <winbond> im insalling kde4 and it sais run "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/kde4/libexport" but gives me export command not found, how do i fix it ?
[03:12] <Midgewa> Im trying to install ubuntu from the cd, i put it in and selected "run or install ubuntu" - but now it has the error: "/bin/sh: cant access tty; job control turned off"
[03:13] <bradley> yaustar: what happens if you uninstall gsynaptics?
[03:13] <JesusOnStilts> then you could use a diff program
[03:13] <bradley> yaustar: or whatever synaptic GUI conig tool you have installed
[03:13] <yaustar> IIRC, nothing..
[03:13] <JesusOnStilts> like automatix
[03:13] <JesusOnStilts> but synaptic has liek everything
[03:13] <JesusOnStilts> baller style
[03:13] <bradley> yaustar: meaning you dont get the error anymore?
[03:14] <Pici> !automatix | JesusOnStilts
[03:14] <ubotu> JesusOnStilts: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:14] <CheeseGardener> thanks for the help though.  I'm out guys.  Cya :)
[03:14] <yaustar> I don't get he error because the program that creates just got uninstalled ;). It comes up when I try to run gsynaptic
[03:14] <astro76> Midgewa, that's not good, if you google search that error, you'll find a bunch of people with that problem, but no real solutions (still check it out though)
[03:15] <JesusOnStilts> yea
[03:15] <JesusOnStilts> that program sucks
[03:15] <pawan> how to install compizfusion
[03:15] <bradley> yaustar: ok, so forgive me, but what are you trying to do with the GUI config tool that you can't just use the xorg.con for?
[03:15] <Pici> !effects | pawan
[03:15] <ubotu> pawan: For help or discussion on Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[03:15] <astro76> winbond, export is a builtin bash command that you would normally use in a shell script
[03:15] <yaustar> Get rid of tap.
[03:16] <astro76> yaustar, what's it doing now?
[03:16] <bradley> yaustar, with that GUI tool unistalled, and the maxtaptime set to 0, everything should work.
[03:16] <winbond> astro76: it there a way to install it , becouse its not here
[03:16] <yaustar> bradley: Clicking the left mouse button when I tap
[03:17] <astro76> winbond, you don't have bash?
[03:17] <setuid> Jason5876, Is there an easy way to build the newer kernel, making sure that it replicates the same mkinitrd/etc. that the running kernel package does?
[03:17] <bradley> yaustar: ive seen cases where the xorg command and the GUI tool conflict each other and then neither works
[03:17] <yaustar> bradley: Just uninstalled gsynaptic.. BRB
[03:18] <winbond> astro76: i dont know, i know the konsole is installed., i think thats bash
[03:18] <pawan> pawan@pawan-desktop:~$ deb http://ppa.dogfood.launchpad.net/amaranth/ubuntu feisty main restricted universe multiverse
[03:18] <pawan> bash: deb: command not found
[03:18] <yaustar> bradley: Nope, still happening
[03:19] <Amaranth> pawan: you're supposed to add it to your sources.list file
[03:19] <winbond> fish
[03:19] <Amaranth> !howto-#ubuntu-effects | pawan
[03:19] <ubotu> pawan: To install Xgl/AIGLX and Compiz use: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[03:19] <JesusOnStilts> who was i talkin with about 4GB Flash Drive earlier?
[03:19] <yaustar> bradley: What is "SendCoreEvents"?
[03:20] <Amaranth> yaustar: it makes your touchpad work :)
[03:20] <yaustar> Does it need to be in the server layout section?
[03:20] <Skeet> ok i need some help
[03:20] <starz> just installed edgy and upgraded to feisty
[03:21] <kata> qu es esto
[03:21] <starz> and i cannot burn an image via k3b to disk~!!~ any ideas???
[03:21] <kata> alguien habl espaol?
[03:21] <starz> kata: #ubuntu-es i think
[03:21] <astro76> yaustar, gsynaptic works here, and the only real difference between our xorg.conf files is I don't have MaxTapTime set
[03:21] <Amaranth> !es | kata
[03:21] <ubotu> kata: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:21] <yaustar> hmm.. brb
[03:21] <starz> Amaranth: save me ;_;
[03:21] <bradley> yaustar: i dont know for sure.  look at my xorg here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32303/
[03:22] <kata> ya.... esta bn
[03:22] <kata> como me salgo de esto
[03:23] <yaustar> bradley: astro76: I have no idea why this isn't working :/
[03:23] <astro76> kata, type /join #ubuntu-es
[03:23] <elfboy> ok i cant play dvd but the drive works and all that said i need some plugin so i go it and still nothing
[03:23] <Skeet> can someone help me i have no sound
[03:23] <astro76> yaustar, what happens exactly? still complains about shmconfig?
[03:23] <nfearnley> I'm looking for technical information on disc image formats (mdf/bin/iso). Can anyone point my in the right direction?
[03:23] <bradley> yaustar: take a look at my xorg and put everything in yours where it is in mine: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32303/
[03:23] <JesusOnStilts> costco has the same sandisk cruzer micro 4gb for 49.99
[03:23] <starz> !sound | skeet
[03:23] <ubotu> skeet: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:24] <Geek_> elfboy: in what? AFAIK VLC runs dan near anything
[03:24] <yaustar> astro76: Gsynaptic is still complaining yes :(
[03:24] <Skeet> ok i'll check
[03:24] <elfboy> as in i put a vdv in and nothing happend
[03:24] <diminthedam> hi, my computer crashed and i lost 6 hours of work (open office on feisty). when rebooted, its not there. are there any temp files I can browse through to look for anything that may have saved?
[03:24] <astro76> !css | elfboy
[03:24] <ubotu> elfboy: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:24] <elfboy> none of the players i have will play dvd
[03:24] <Geek_> nfearnley:  wierd idea but... tried wikipedia?
[03:24] <bradley> astro76: i really don't think he needs gsynaptics for this.  the command within xorg.conf should suffice
[03:25] <astro76> elfboy, you'll need libdvdcss2 for encrypted dvds
[03:25] <CheeseGardener> I can't believe I'm already back lol.  Is there any way to use MP3s as system sounds???
[03:25] <Midgewa> astro76: hmm it appears noone at ubuntu is addressing the boot error
[03:25] <elfboy> libdvdcss2
[03:25] <elfboy> ok
[03:25] <elfboy> brb
[03:25] <nanoteker> why does ubutnu live show my ide as a scsi when i run sudo fdisk -l ?
[03:25] <astro76> bradley, it should, but he said he wanted it, I thought there was a reason
[03:26] <marcot> Hello, I installed ubuntu and alsa was working fine.  I just upgraded my system with the security upgrades, and now I can't use alsamixer, and gnome-mixer only sees the oss device.
[03:26] <yaustar> bradley: astro76: Tried removing the Wacom sections and still have the same problem :(
[03:26] <bradley> yaustar: is there any reason you absolutely want gsynaptics?
[03:26] <nfearnley> Geek_: I've searched wikipedia and google. It's very slim pickings.
[03:26] <CheeseGardener> Do system sounds have to be only .wav or is there a way to use .mp3 format for system sounds???
[03:26] <yaustar> Hell, it is unistalled at the moment
[03:27] <elfboy> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:27] <elfboy> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:27] <elfboy> is only available from another source
[03:27] <elfboy> E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate
[03:27] <bradley> yaustar: i know, but astro76 mentioned that you wanted to have it
[03:27] <elfboy> thesource@Hall2001:~$
[03:27] <elfboy>
[03:27] <yaustar> There is no reason for me to have it specifically, I just literally just one at random from the list
[03:27] <Midgewa> Is it possible to download Gutsy yet? Feisty apparently wont work on this laptop i just bought
[03:27] <Midgewa> i do NOT wanna run windows on it
[03:28] <Pici> !gutsy | Midgewa
[03:28] <ubotu> Midgewa: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[03:28] <astro76> !paste | elfboy
[03:28] <ubotu> elfboy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:28] <Pici> Midgewa: Its not really stable for general usage.
[03:28] <marcot> Any ideas?
[03:28] <astro76> elfboy, that link ubotu gave you before tells you how to get it
[03:28] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> I'm trying to compile a dapper kernel on a feisty machine, because the feisty machine is faster, but I'm getting some errors, do I have to make any special changes for this to work?
[03:28] <CheeseGardener> Does anyone know if non .wav files can be used as system sounds?
[03:28] <Pici> !seveas | elfboy
[03:28] <ubotu> elfboy: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:28] <Geek_> nfearnley: iso is easy, its a simple raw image of the filesystem....
[03:29] <Midgewa> I know that Gutsy isnt officially released yet - but if feisty wont work on my computer i may as well try a gutsy beta or something
[03:29] <Geek_> *disk
[03:29] <bradley> yaustar: have you moved the input device sections and things to match my xorg here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32303/
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Midgewa: What type of laptop and where does it stop when trying to boot it up?  HAve you tried alternate.. I had to use that on a few laptops lately
[03:29] <marcot> When I try to run alsamixer it sais: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument
[03:29] <Midgewa> jack_sparrow its a second hand dell inspiron 5100 i pickup up about an hour ago
[03:29] <Midgewa> whats the alternate? a differnet cd?
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Midgewa: YEs, a text install...
[03:30] <yaustar> Keyboard, mouse then touhpad, yeah
[03:30] <Pici> \x6e\x65\x72\x64: You might try asking in #ubuntu-kernel , its kinda out-of-scope for this channel
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Midgewa: How far do you get running the livecd
[03:30] <\x6e\x65\x72\x64> Pici, ok thanks
[03:31] <Midgewa> Jack_sparrow; put the cd in, rebooted to cd, selected run/install ubuntu. it loaded the splash screen loading thing, then the error came up
[03:31] <nfearnley> Geek_: From what I understand, an .ISO is a raw copy of the filesystem, while a .BIN is raw copy of the whole CD. I'm mainly trying to figure out the difference between .MDF and .BIN.
[03:31] <Pici> Midgewa: Definitly try the Alternate CD before Gutsy
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Midgewa: IS it a repeating error?
[03:31] <bradley> yaustar: as well as the server layout section?
[03:31] <Midgewa> jack_sparrow happens every time
[03:32] <Midgewa> pici where do i find it? ubuntu site? and is it just as easy?
[03:32] <shk> can anyone explain to me how to load a deb from commandline?
[03:32] <Pici> !alternate | Midgewa
[03:32] <ubotu> Midgewa: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Midgewa: I mean does it go into a loop... HAve you done the self test for errors?
[03:32] <Pici> mm
[03:32] <Pici> Midgewa: It shoudl just be on the ubuntu download area.
[03:32] <pyCube> i always use the alt install cd
[03:32] <yaustar> bradley: yep
[03:32] <Pici> Midgewa: Its a text based install, but its not that complicated.
[03:32] <pyCube> less hassle.. less boot nonsense time
[03:32] <nanoteker> anyone? i'm trying to install grub onto my win hdd, however sudo fdisk -l is showing my ide as a scsi...ie., "sda"
[03:32] <Midgewa> jack_sparrow dunno how
[03:32] <AnRkey> hi all
[03:33] <Midgewa> jack_sparrow but one the error occurs, it stops
[03:33] <neozen> salutations AnRkey
[03:33] <Midgewa> jack_sparrow then i rebooted
[03:33] <z> do you have to partition a hdd special if there is a recovery partition present? i'm about to install ubuntu 7.04 on a compaq presrio f500
[03:33] <astro76> shk, sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[03:33] <shk> thanks astro, i did that but it keeps telling me that it cannot find the file
[03:33] <shk> i put it right in /
[03:33] <Pici> nanoteker: There was some decision to replace the hda device names with sda, I cant seem to find the documentation here, but rest assured, its okay.
[03:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Midgewa: Right below start or install you have more options..
[03:34] <astro76> shk, then you're typing the path/name wrong
[03:34] <Pie> What's the default webpage directory for an Apache server?
[03:34] <shk> should i be typing /file.deb?
[03:34] <CheeseGardener> Does anyone know if ubuntu can use .mp3 as system sounds?  if not how can I convert them to .wav?
[03:34] <afterwego> Pie: /var/www
[03:34] <AnRkey> does anyone know how i would go about getting a 3rd party project sub-forum on ubuntuforums.org? I have already send a message via the site to the webmaster but have not received a reply yet. Any help would be cool...
[03:34] <Midgewa> jack_sparrow yeah?
[03:34] <astro76> shk, if that's where it is, you should avoid saving stuff to root btw, use your userhome
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Midgewa: You will end up fiddling with the wireless but that unit will work with Debian...
[03:34] <nanoteker> pici, thanks, however i "go for it" and it doens't install...ie., install-grub /sda pulls back the syntax error
[03:34] <Pie> Thanks, afterwego
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Midgewa: Ok.. do the error test and watch for errors on the cd..
[03:35] <astro76> shk, the case has to be the same, you must be typing it wrong, use tab completion (type first few letters, press tab)
[03:35] <Pici> nanoteker: Its probably /dev/sda
[03:35] <shk> ok ill try that now, thank you
[03:35] <nanoteker> :P
[03:35] <yaustar> bradley: Should I try a restart of the system?
[03:35] <casper_> CheeseGardener: good question hopefully someone knows
[03:35] <Midgewa> jack_sparrow booting it now
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Midgewa: ok
[03:35] <hupper> hi, I am trying to compile a thing that needs gimptools-2.0, can someone please tell me how to get that?
[03:35] <bradley> yaustar: yeah, it can't hurt
[03:35] <Midgewa> jack_sparrow checking cd for defects
[03:35] <w30> Pie, index.html is in var/www and the other pages you put in /var/www/html/
[03:35] <nanoteker> :(
[03:36] <Midgewa> jack_sparrow same error
[03:36] <Midgewa> bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[03:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Then you have a bad or dirty cd
[03:36] <AnRkey> hupper: apt-cache search gimptools
[03:36] <unagi> anyone hear use autodesk maya?
[03:36] <unagi> here*
[03:36] <nanoteker> don't mean to repeat...
[03:36] <Midgewa> jack_sparrow but apparently its a problem others have too? and its a legit cd from ubuntu
[03:37] <nanoteker> why are my msgs not showing...
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Midgewa: I have had shipit cd's not work as well... But if it fails the self test then there is a real / physical problem wiith the disk
[03:37] <hupper> AnRkey: it didnt return anything in console
[03:37] <AnRkey> yeah, i just tried it
[03:37] <twoshadetod> anyone have any idea why my router and my neighbors show up for wireless connections I can use when I'm in XP but while in ubuntu I can only see my neighbors?
[03:38] <yaustar> bradley: Restart fixed it :S
[03:38] <nanoteker> ok.../dev/sda has winxp only, it's my second hdd...do i have to make a mount point?
[03:38] <Midgewa> jack_sparrow righto.. i guess ill download the alt cd or something.. give that a shot
[03:38] <nanoteker> finally!
[03:38] <AnRkey> hupper, try something like apt-cache search gimp tools
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Midgewa: I have taken shipit cd's that passed the test, created an iso... reburned slower and had them work
[03:38] <bradley> yaustar: good! i was ready to rip my hair out!
[03:38] <AnRkey> hupper, or just gimp
[03:38] <bradley> yaustar: glad we could get your sorted out
[03:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Midgewa: The alt is a text install and not as easy, but seems to work better..
[03:38] <hupper> AnRkey: k, what does the cmd do anyway?
[03:39] <Midgewa> jack_sparrow.. well i can still use this pc and go through a walkthroguh or something
[03:39] <AnRkey> hupper, it allows u to search for packages
[03:39] <Midgewa> jack_sparrow.. but i have to head off in 5 minutes.. so itll have to wait till later, thanks for help thhough
[03:39] <yaustar> bradley: :P... cheers for the help.. I just noticed my mouse sensitivity is different, it is because it is using the synaptic settings in Xorg rather then the standard mouse settingd
[03:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Midgewa: Good luck... it will be worth it in the end
[03:39] <AnRkey> hupper, it will list packages and then u can install them with sudo apt-get install package-name-here
[03:40] <Midgewa> jack_sparrow.. i know :D im running it on this pc ;-)
[03:40] <pawan__> is beryl and compiz fusion different
[03:40] <hupper> AnRkey: ok, so it searches on the internet then
[03:40] <Jack_Sparrow> Midgewa: Those run really hot.. be sure to keep the vents clear..
[03:40] <elfboy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32305/
[03:40] <AnRkey> hupper, well it searches the repositories
[03:41] <AnRkey> hupper, they are on the internet yes
[03:41] <hupper> AnRkey: the same as the one with gui?
[03:41] <bradley> yaustar' if you're asking me, then yes, that's why the sensitivity is different.  If you don't like it, you'll have to install gsynaptics to adjust
[03:41] <Midgewa> jack_sparrow.. yeah i know - its got a p4 in it.. pain in the ass but it was cheap and hardly used
[03:41] <elfboy> i cant get ubuntu too play dvd
[03:41] <AnRkey> hupper, yeah only this is for command line
[03:41] <bradley> yaustar: and then reboot of course :)
[03:41] <IdleOne> !dvd | elfboy
[03:41] <ubotu> elfboy: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:41] <elfboy> IdleOne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32305/
[03:41] <elfboy> read that then tell me what to do
[03:42] <hupper> AnRkey: so is like every linux program listed on such things?
[03:42] <AnRkey> well all the ubuntu ones are
[03:42] <Skeet> hey how do i make it snow on beryl
[03:42] <elfboy> lol
[03:42] <elfboy> snow
[03:42] <elfboy> wow
[03:42] <AnRkey> hupper,  try this apt-cache search gimp tools 2
[03:42] <Skeet> yes snow
[03:42] <IdleOne> elfboy, go to the link ubotu just gave you up there and insall libdvdcss2
[03:42] <AnRkey> hupper,  then install the packages it shows
[03:43] <regeya> I've heard it all now.
[03:43] <elfboy> libdvdcss2 not 3
[03:43] <nanoteker> anyone? that last remark was about finally getting the msg to show in the room...i still can't install grub to the sda1
[03:43] <nanoteker> in /dev/sda1
[03:43] <IdleOne> elfboy, you tried install libdvdread3
[03:43] <elfboy> yes
[03:43] <AnRkey> hupper, having any luck?
[03:43] <sport> is to possible to compile and install samba in the same way as anything else?
[03:44] <ldz420> I am looking for a good info on how to set up system directory.. any assistance
[03:44] <IdleOne> elfboy, ok now go to the link and install libdvdcss2
[03:44] <elfboy> lol ok
[03:44] <djcheese> woo ubuntu rocks
[03:44] <AnRkey> djcheese, yes yes we know :D
[03:44] <Pici> sport: Yes, I'm not sure exactly what you are asking though.,
[03:44] <djcheese> 7.04 supports my broadcom 4318 wireless card
[03:45] <IdleOne> djcheese, it also bakes cookies :)
[03:45] <pawan> !compiz
[03:45] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:45] <lufis> ldz420: What do you mean?
[03:45] <hupper> AnRkey: nope, I heard it might come with another package though
[03:45] <sport> pici: makes sense because im not exactly sure what im doing
[03:45] <Pici> lufis: I was just typing that :p
[03:45] <djcheese> that would awesome.. i could go for some cookies
[03:45] <lufis> Pici: whoa you can bilocate! :O
[03:45] <Pici> sport: You want to run a samba serveR?
[03:45] <hupper> AnRkey: I installed linux yesterda btw and compiled my first program soo i might do something wrong :)
[03:46] <AnRkey> hupper, what u need it for?
[03:46] <hupper> AnRkey: I am tryng to compile a gimp plugin (verse)
[03:46] <yaustar> bradley: Again, thanks for the help,. Off to bed now I have this sorted.. night
[03:46] <AnRkey> hupper, is this the first day of linux for u then? or have u tried it before?
[03:46] <djcheese> are there any good applications that can scan for wireless networks?
[03:46] <yaustar> exit
[03:46] <IdleOne> djcheese, kismet
[03:46] <shk> hi can anyone help me with setting up my x display drivers
[03:46] <djcheese> kismet.. cool thx
[03:46] <sport> pici well i want to be running a web server but use samba to also make it a lan share w/samba to easily change the html files.
[03:47] <IdleOne> !info kismet
[03:47] <lufis> shk: What brand of card?
[03:47] <ubotu> kismet: Wireless 802.11b monitoring tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 2006.04.R1-1.1 (feisty), package size 964 kB, installed size 2448 kB
[03:47] <shk> intel
[03:47] <hupper> AnRkey: pretty much the first day I do something, yes
[03:47] <lufis> shk: What chipset?
[03:47] <shk> uhm ich8 i think
[03:47] <sport> pici i kinda always use gui's and this whole compiling think is messing with me mind
[03:47] <shk> it's a new inspiron
[03:47] <pacsum_>  where can I find the conky config file in ubuntu?
[03:47] <Geek_> sport: whats wrong with FTP for that?
[03:47] <Pici> sport: Theres really no need to compile samba, its in the repositories.
[03:48] <Pici> sport: sudo apt-get install samba
[03:48] <AnRkey> hupper, keep at it mate, good luck. I hope you get it sorted. Ubuntu set me free :D
[03:48] <lufis> shk: Is there something wrong with your graphics?
[03:48] <sport> Geek_ i dont really know what im doing
[03:48] <hupper> AnRkey: hehe ty, It seems good, not just bc its free
[03:48] <Geek_> sport: i can see. Get an FTP server ;) you can access FTP from windows in windows explorer, and various ways in linux
[03:48] <shk> everytime i get to login x crashes and says failed to load ...drivers//intel.drv.so
[03:49] <shk> failed to load module intel (loader failed, 7)
[03:49] <lufis> shk: Is this a fresh install?
[03:49] <sport> pici okay I thought about doing it that way but thought that it would be a good time to learn how to compile
[03:49] <shk> yes
[03:49] <lufis> shk: First time booting?
[03:49] <shk> i had to do alternate since i couldnt get the reg to work
[03:49] <matysek> unlucky guy
[03:49] <shk> well no i have been trying to install drivers
[03:49] <lufis> shk: But it worked before?
[03:49] <shk> but basically failing
[03:49] <shk> no it nevre worked
[03:49] <lufis> ok
[03:49] <hupper> AnRkey: maybe me this plugin isnt supported beacuse there is no ./config file
[03:49] <shk> always sitting in console
[03:50] <sport> Geek_ can you define " Get an FTP server"
[03:50] <gregorySovinski> HELP PLZ...i am TRYING to listeing to 100.3fm radio on the internet(http://ktlkfm.com/main.html)..but when i click on the "listen live" link..it does not play the live radio...any help?
[03:50] <AnRkey> hupper, what does the pluggin do?
[03:50] <AnRkey> and what is it called?
[03:50] <lufis> shk: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the correct driver... intels begn with the letter i... i don't know what particular driver works with your driver, you may need to look that up
[03:50] <lufis> chipset*
[03:51] <Geek_> sport: erm, install an FTP server. mod the conf file to point at your webroot.
[03:52] <pawan> pawan@pawan-desktop:~$ compiz --replace
[03:52] <dibblego> how do I create file.tar.gz from file?
[03:52] <pawan> inotify_add_watch: No such file or directory
[03:52] <sport> Geek_ mmkay. sorry for playing the dumb card. you people underestimate the learning curve for someone born after DOS
[03:52] <dibblego> er nothing
[03:52] <Geek_> ...
[03:52] <DWSR> sport: minimal at best. I was born on Win98.
[03:52] <hupper> AnRkey: its called verse-gimp, but is it suppose to have a config file or is Makefile fine do u think?
[03:52] <Geek_> sport: in that case... i suggest taking a look at XAMPP ;)
[03:52] <reimorster> hahahahaha
[03:52] <astro76> sport, Geek_ much easier to install openssh-server, then you can ssh/sftp
[03:53] <astro76> sport, no config required
[03:53] <DWSR> Can someone suggest a wireless monitor for Xubuntu?
[03:53] <sport> astro76 whats sftp?
[03:53] <Geek_> astro76: he wanted to use SMB! ;p
[03:53] <astro76> !ssh | sport
[03:53] <ubotu> sport: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[03:53] <Geek_> <3 putty
[03:53] <peeps_work> i have a usb to ethernet adapter here, and I got it working.  then I moved, and for some reason I can't get it to work again.  can someone help me?
[03:53] <DWSR> sport: SFTP is FTP over an SSH connection.
[03:53] <pawan> not able to start compizfusion
[03:53] <astro76> sport, you'll be able to use filezilla from windows for sftp, if I understood you correctly
[03:53] <peeps_work> i can see the device with lsusb, but I don't know where to go from there.
[03:54] <DWSR> astro76, yes you can use Filezilla for SFTP.
[03:54] <peeps_work> i had to use ndiswrapper to get it to work originally, but I can't remember the details
[03:54] <DWSR> Can someone tell me what a good wireless monitoring applet is for Xfce?
[03:55] <sport> DWSR: how'd you learn networking?
[03:55] <peeps_work> DWSR, can you just use network manager?
[03:55] <Pici> DWSR: Not that many people here use xfce, you might have better luck in #xubuntu
[03:55] <DWSR> peeps_work, I'm not using Gnome.
[03:55] <peeps_work> DWSR, so what
[03:55] <peeps_work> xfce can run gnome apps
[03:55] <DWSR> sport: Trial and error. My dad used to be a system engineer for large corporations, so I picked up some stuff from him, but a lot of it is just curiousity.
[03:55] <DWSR> Didn't know that.
[03:56] <skyfalcon866> is there a text to speech program
[03:56] <DWSR> Can I install gedit without having to install gnome peeps_work?
[03:56] <peeps_work> skyfalcon866, festival
[03:56] <peeps_work> DWSR, yes i think xfce already uses some of the gnome libraries
[03:56] <warnet01> co gendut smg
[03:56] <peeps_work> give it a try, it can't hurt
[03:57] <pchilds> I need some help with compiz please. Seems all my apps menus have disappeared. Is there a way to bring them back?
[03:57] <DWSR> peeps_work, What's the GDE metapackage called? Not ubuntu-desktop, but the actual GDE package?
[03:57] <LadyNikon> pchilds: did you try to manuver your mouse in the corners?
[03:58] <djcheese> hey IdleOne: where do i find where kismet is installed.. i need to edit the .conf
[03:58] <Falstius> pchilds: do you use the nvidia drivers?
[03:58] <peeps_work> DWSR, if it's not ubuntu-desktop, then I don't know
[03:58] <DWSR> djcheese, whereis kismet
[03:58] <djcheese> nm found it
[03:58] <pchilds> No I do not have nvidia drivers.  I have an intel extreme card
[03:58] <djcheese> thx DWSR
[03:58] <lazz> I was looking for info about running a command with or without ./
[03:58] <pawan> how to start compizfusion
[03:58] <Falstius> pchilds: sorry, I know a fix for that problem with nvidia cards but not other drivers.
[03:59] <DWSR> lazz: ./ is sometimes just a formality.
[03:59] <pawan> are compizfusion and beryl different
[03:59] <DWSR> lazz: It means "in the current directory"
[03:59] <keen> does anyone here use compizfusion?
[03:59] <peeps_work> DWSR, you could just try installing from source straight from the gedit website
[03:59] <bradley> pawn: Compiz Fusion is the child of Compiz and Beryl
[03:59] <Falstius> DWSR: generally the current directory isn't in the path, so you need ./ to run a program in it.
[03:59] <peeps_work> http://www.gnome.org/projects/gedit/
[04:00] <DWSR> Falstius, normally bash will search the current directory for an executable.
[04:00] <Mertiki> I'm on gutsy, it seems to be compiz and not compiz fusion, but I'm not sure
[04:00] <elfboy> ok i did all that and l libdvdcss2 and nothing
[04:00] <bradley> keen: are you having problems with Fusion?
[04:00] <BigMac> Any swiftweasel users here?
[04:00] <pchilds> Maybe compiz fusion is not for me. Strange app although most of it works just I gave up my drop down menus in all my apps but firefox. They seem to have a workaround for that app. Weird
[04:00] <DWSR> at least, I'm fairly sure that it will, I might be wrong though.
[04:00] <DWSR> I normally avoid changing directories.
[04:00] <Falstius> DWSR: only if the current directory is in the $PATH variable, normally it isn't.
[04:01] <DWSR> peeps_work, installing gedit is installing a bunch of libs, but doesn't seem to be installing GDE itself..
[04:01] <keen> bradley: yeah, when my laptop screen goes to sleep, i have to restart the x-server b4 i can use the laptop again, didnt start happening till compizfusion was installed
[04:01] <lazz> when I run it I get an error  ./setup.sh
[04:01] <DWSR> Falstius, Can't you just add . to $PATH?
[04:01] <janiteus> any1 know where i can find club3d x800 seris drivers for linux?
[04:01] <Falstius> DWSR: ofcourse .. but you shouldn't.
[04:01] <DWSR> janiteus, Google?
[04:01] <ramseize> hello just askin, if i want to use the NTFS-3G is it necessary to upgrade my ubuntu?
[04:01] <janiteus> tried to
[04:01] <DWSR> Falstius, why not?
[04:01] <lazz> hehehe in redhat it works....
[04:01] <janiteus> cant understand a thig :D
[04:01] <janiteus> *thing
[04:01] <janiteus> this whole linux thing is too new to me :<
[04:02] <DWSR> ramseize, As long as you have 6.10 or later, you should be fine.
[04:02] <lazz> the ./ command... but here it is not working the way Im used to
[04:02] <astro76> DWSR, not being able to run programs in current directory without ./ is an important security aspect of linux/unix
[04:02] <DWSR> astro76, explain?
[04:02] <Falstius> DWSR: because it can cause confusion with you're developing software and it keeps you from accidentally executing files.
[04:02] <DWSR> I don't see how it's more secure.
[04:02] <ramseize> DWSR im using ubuntu fiesty
[04:02] <astro76> DWSR, for instance, something malicious could make an "ls" in your home directory, that causes damage
[04:02] <bradley> keen: sorry thats out of my knowledge base, try #ubuntu-effects for help
[04:02] <sport> why, when I try to delete a directory (rmdir "folder") it says "Directory not empty" ? i know its not empty thats why i want to delete it...
[04:02] <Falstius> sport: rm -rf directory
[04:02] <DWSR> ramseize, Then all you have to do is enable !multiverse and !universe and do 'sudo apt-get install ntfs-config' and you should be good to go.
[04:03] <keen> bradley: thanks, just wasn't sure if it was a common problem
[04:03] <Falstius> sport: use that command very very carefully.  there is no undelete.
[04:03] <DWSR> astro76, if you put . at the end of the $PATH, shouldn't bash search the current directory last?
[04:03] <Rhino0nT> sport: use rm -rf
[04:03] <DWSR> indeed^
[04:03] <Rhino0nT> sport: use rm -rf directory
[04:03] <bradley> keen: can't say that i've ever heard of it, but considering Fusion is still Alpha, that sort of bug doesn't surprise me
[04:03] <astro76> DWSR, I'm not really sure if that's technically possible or not, I don't think it is, if it is, you really shouldn't ;)
[04:04] <keen> bradley: could just be my lappy, i've had nothing but problems with it...dell inspiron e1505
[04:04] <DWSR> astro76, I know, I'm just arguing on principle. I don't see how, if the current directory is searched last, it's all that much of a security risk.
[04:04] <elfboy> ok still cant play dvd http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32306/
[04:04] <sport> Falstius: whats the -rf ?
[04:04] <Falstius> DWSR: yes it will, and you can do that.  I'm not telling you not to add . to your path, just don't go around telling everyone to do it :)
[04:04] <astro76> DWSR, ultimately you don't normally run programs outside your path, you could put scripts you make in ~/bin for instance, which is in your path
[04:04] <bradley> keen: and if you have an ATI card by chance, that may be the prob more than Fusion
[04:04] <Rhino0nT> sport: r   = recursive f= force
[04:05] <keen> bradly: only time i ever got it working well it installed some script package that has more programs than i want
[04:05] <rya1> Is anyone versed with LIRC. I think I almost have my remote control working. I need a little help.
[04:05] <Falstius> sport: -r means recursive (delete stuff inside the directory), -f means force so it won't ask if you want to delete each file.
[04:05] <keen> bradly: x1400 mobile =)
[04:05] <DWSR> sport: recursive means go into subdirectories and delete the stuff inside it.
[04:05] <DWSR> astro76, normall I just place scripts in ~ :-) That's in my path too :-P
[04:05] <sport> Falstius: recursive force... sounds like a awsome band name
[04:05] <DWSR> booya.  When you type in ./setup.sh, what error does it come up with?
[04:06] <djcheese> have a bit of trouble with configuring kismet.. anyone care to lend a hand
[04:06] <astro76> DWSR, I don't think such a thing exists
[04:06] <rya1> Anyone familiar with LIRC?
[04:06] <Falstius> lazz: if you want a directory for your scripts, make a directory called ~/bin and add that to your path with export PATH=$PATH:~/bin
[04:06] <DWSR> astro76, Wireless monitoring applet?
[04:07] <Tarantulafudge> why are most ubuntu packages somewhat behind? I'm trying to develop using a library but it hasn't been updated yet
[04:07] <astro76> DWSR, lol ok
[04:07] <bradley> elfboy: not everyone would agree
[04:07] <lazz> no file or directory
[04:07] <kiba> hello
[04:07] <kiba> I am upgrading to Gusty
[04:07] <Goldfisch> Ahh, you mean networkmanager?
[04:07] <elfboy> bradley:  then u come over and make it work
[04:07] <elfboy> :)
[04:07] <DWSR> Goldfisch, yes, and I've tried that one.
[04:07] <Pici> kiba: Gutsy questions in #ubuntu+1 please.
[04:07] <Rhino0nT> Tarantulafudge: Have you checked your repositories?
[04:07] <Drizzt321> for anyone using the server version with apache2, has anyone tried to use auth_basic with the file provider?
[04:07] <sport> Falstius: you can play the theremin, i'll play the harmonica
[04:07] <bradley> elfboy: it works for me, and that's what matters :P
[04:07] <kiba> anybody brought a dell computer with ubuntu preinstalled?
[04:07] <Tarantulafudge> Rhino0nT: how do I backport packages?
[04:08] <elfboy> bradley: barly works for me and i love it
[04:08] <elfboy> anyway
[04:08] <Drizzt321> kiba: not yet, I haven't needed a new laptop yet, although I would wish they had more hardware options for their ubuntu systems
[04:08] <rya1> LIRC, anyone?
[04:08] <elfboy> some one like to make my ubuntu play dvd
[04:08] <Goldfisch> kiba: Not yet, but I am thinking about a new laptop to replace my 7-year old. It would be nice to throw Dell a real of vote of confidence by buying one, ehh?
[04:08] <Rhino0nT> Tarantulafudge: Look at your repositories, if you need backport you just have to add the appropiated repositories
[04:08] <Drizzt321> elfboy: you need to install some of the restricted packages
[04:08] <elfboy> some one like to make my ubuntu play dvd http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32306/
[04:08] <Tarantulafudge> Rhino0nT: I can't just have specific packages?
[04:09] <Goldfisch> kiba: The angle is to get what you can, but then be ready to buy your memory upgrade through newegg.com. I looked at System76, and couldn't beat the prices of dell.
[04:09] <Rhino0nT> elfboy: get automatix, easy way
[04:09] <DWSR> !backports | Tarantulafudge
[04:09] <Pici> !automatix | Rhino0nT  elfboy
[04:09] <ubotu> Tarantulafudge: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[04:09] <ubotu> Rhino0nT  elfboy: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:09] <kiba> the nvidia graphic driver sucks though
[04:09] <kiba> I hate the company behind nvidia
[04:09] <DWSR> kiba: Why do you say that?
[04:09] <Drizzt321> kiba: actually, its much better than the ati one. I haven't tried the ati one in a little while, but the nvidia one is pretty nice
[04:09] <bradley> elfboy: do you have libdvdread3 installed?
[04:09] <kiba> DWSR: No opengl acclerator
[04:09] <Rhino0nT> Tarantulafudge: You can, just be carefull when you install any lib or package
[04:09] <kiba> I mean
[04:09] <DWSR> The nVidia drivers that I'm using run WoW under Wine!
[04:09] <Drizzt321> elfboy: have you installed a dvd playing software? like xine or vlc or mplayer?
[04:09] <elfboy> yes and 2
[04:09] <kiba> 3d acclerator
[04:09] <DWSR> Yes there is! I'm using it.
[04:10] <kiba> I couldn't get the proprietary one to work
[04:10] <DWSR> You need to install the Restricted Drivers.
[04:10] <J-Wreck> anyone know if there is a dock that can run GNOME panel applets?
[04:10] <jackyyll1> so i got an HDMI to DVI converter and when i plug it in and try to use my tv as a second screen, it cuts off some of the screen like some pixels from top and bottom and both sides
[04:10] <J-Wreck> i doubt it, but figured i'd sak
[04:10] <DWSR> Applications->System->Restricted Drivers Manager
[04:10] <J-Wreck> ask*
[04:10] <jackyyll1> anyone know a solution to thsi problem?
[04:10] <Goldfisch> kiba: Oh yeah, you have to use "nvidia" driver in xorg.conf, not nv nor vesa. Do that?
[04:10] <kiba> DWSR: they say I don't need one
[04:10] <Sanctusorium> Hey guys, how can one change their GDM theme?
[04:10] <Drizzt321> jackyyll1: thats because you need to change the resolution for that specific output, tv's usually have odd resolutions
[04:10] <Rhino0nT> Tarantulafudge: Another way is getting the deb package that you need
[04:10] <kiba> I am upgrading to Gusty at the moment
[04:11] <DWSR> J-Wreck: Why would you need a dock? Why not just run GNOME?
[04:11] <Drizzt321> jackyyll1: from the overscan that they originally used for broadcast to carry extra information but didn't display it
[04:11] <elfboy> Drizzt321: yes i have i have xine
[04:11] <kiba> they say I don't need a restricted driver
[04:11] <Drizzt321> elfboy: ok
[04:11] <jackyyll1> Drizzt321, how do i find that?
[04:11] <J-Wreck> Cuz i like eye candy
[04:11] <Drizzt321> kiba: you don't you can use the open source, non-3d drivers
[04:11] <kiba> I brought a low end ubuntu computer
[04:11] <bradley> Sanctusorium: System>Admin>Login window
[04:11] <MajorPayne> J-Wreck: A dock like on Mac OS X?  Worst idea ever.
[04:11] <Sanctusorium> thanks bradley
[04:11] <Drizzt321> jackyyll1: erm...check what resolution your tv is, and do some google searches for xorg.conf configurations for that type of resolution/tv
[04:11] <DWSR> kiba: You don't *need* one, but the restricted drivers offer 3D Acceleration.
[04:11] <Pici> !offtopic
[04:11] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:12] <bradley> Sanctusorium: the the local tab should get you there
[04:12] <jackyyll1> Drizzt321, k thanks
[04:12] <Drizzt321> jackyyll1: np
[04:12] <elfboy> i did not have trouble with this on laptop
[04:12] <w30> Sanctusorium, gnome-look.org has a bunch of themes you can download
[04:12] <lazz> I created the directory ~/bin and m9oved the file... it still errors with ./setup.sh "some number" home/mydirectory/.setup"number" not found
[04:13] <Sanctusorium> Yeah, I grabbed a theme off of there but had no clue how to install it
[04:13] <Rhino0nT> Sanctusorium: You also can get gnome-art and install themes, easy way
[04:13] <kiba> nvidia is evil for its proprietary drivers
[04:13] <Drizzt321> kiba: why do you say evil?
[04:13] <Sanctusorium> gnome-art, huh?
[04:13] <Drizzt321> kiba: I say they should fully open them, but overall they're pretty good drivers
[04:13] <kiba> Drizzt321: I consider proprietary softwares unethical
[04:13] <Rhino0nT> Yeap
[04:13] <Drizzt321> kiba: ok
[04:14] <kiba> but the option is that I will get stuck with older version of a game development library
[04:14] <Rhino0nT> Sanctusorium: with gnome-art, as easy as get the themes, preview them get the one you like and just click install, that easy
[04:14] <kiba> so I have little choice
[04:14] <MajorPayne> kiba: At least they make drivers that work.
[04:14] <Goldfisch> kiba: It works, so I use it. nvidia can't open everything, even if they wanted to. They probably have bits and pieces acquired from other parties that are also sealed in NDAs and patents, blah blah blah. You know the story.
[04:14] <Drizzt321> well, on the whole, the nvidia drivers are really pretty decent in terms of quality
[04:14] <Sanctusorium> Rhino, thats nice
[04:14] <janiteus> any1 help with a .run file :D i cant open it :<
[04:14] <w30> Sanctusorium, in loginwindow look for the add button
[04:14] <peeps_work> what would be the best way to have a virtual kvm over gigabit ethernet?  like vnc or something?
[04:15] <janiteus> it says about the coding.. that its wrong
[04:15] <Drizzt321> janiteus: make it executable, and then run it
[04:15] <DWSR> peeps_work, VNC.
[04:15] <DWSR> or FreeNX.
[04:15] <Rhino0nT> Sanctusorium: Yes, it's not perfect but it works
[04:15] <Tarantulafudge> freenx is better
[04:15] <Drizzt321> peeps_work: that, or just run the apps over the network to your local Xserver
[04:15] <Tarantulafudge> way better
[04:15] <MajorPayne> janiteus: chmod 755 something.run;./something.run
[04:15] <janiteus> Drizzt321 how do i do that :D
[04:15] <Drizzt321> janiteus: CLI or GUI?
[04:15] <DWSR> Can someone tell me if the BCM5 drivers support 54mbps?
[04:15] <janiteus> GUI
[04:15] <Tarantulafudge> sadly ubuntu's freenx version is sadly outdated
[04:15] <Tarantulafudge> doesn't even work with the current version
[04:15] <Drizzt321> janiteus: ah...well, not sure, but select it, and then go to properties
[04:16] <Drizzt321> janiteus: make it executable (the x bit)
[04:16] <Drizzt321> janiteus: and then run it
[04:16] <kitche> Tarantulafudge: not hard to install it from nomachine's website though
[04:16] <Drizzt321> Tarantulafudge: don't you mean debian's version is very out of date? :P
[04:16] <peeps_work> Drizzt321, DWSR would it be possible to view a video with etiher those, or other graphics intesive app (like a game maybe)?
[04:16] <kiba> anybody here a programmer?
[04:16] <kiba> I am.
[04:16] <Goldfisch> kiba: Me too.
[04:16] <peeps_work> java dev here
[04:16] <DWSR> peeps_work, most remote desktop like applications do not allow you to do anything of the sort. It's simiply too much bandwidth and processing power.
[04:16] <Drizzt321> peeps_work: ah...theoretically possible, but might not be the best idea for doing it as a remote X app
[04:17] <kiba> me a game developer
[04:17] <Drizzt321> yup, I'm a developer
[04:17] <DWSR> peeps_work, if I were you, I'd run as a thin client.
[04:17] <DWSR> brb.
[04:17] <Drizzt321> mostly j2ee and java, but I've been forced to do ASP.NET with c# before
[04:17] <kiba> what you guys work on for a Free software project?
[04:17] <Drizzt321> Goldfisch: yes, it was pulling teeth
[04:17] <peeps_work> well it is over a local ethernet, gigabit, so I thought maybe that would be enough for video
[04:17] <Goldfisch> kiba: http://springpython.python-hosting.com
[04:17] <lazz> any suggestions for the "./" issue?
[04:18] <Drizzt321> peeps_work: for watching a video, probably, yes
[04:18] <Drizzt321> peeps_work: but games? probably alot of latency there
[04:18] <slestak> peeps_work: funny, i was just working on our NM config when i looked over here.  nomachine has a 2-user version you can use for free
[04:18] <Drizzt321> Goldfisch: I was doing j2ee+struts and then I was put on some other projects for a time, and thats all they had
[04:18] <Drizzt321> *shudder*
[04:19] <Drizzt321> I'd rather not do that again, it was basically the MS way, or fight through it to do it a way that makes sense
[04:19] <Goldfisch> Drizzt321: I am in the process of porting a legacy app to Java+Spring, while at the same time constantly adding new features.
[04:19] <Drizzt321> Goldfisch: oh my. I never used Spring though, but I'm starting to get into JavaServer Faces
[04:19] <Drizzt321> Goldfisch: very nice. very well designed.
[04:19] <kiba> goldfisch: oh..your project is incomperhensiable to me
[04:19] <kiba> but cool
[04:20] <Drizzt321> Goldfisch: the first project I did j2ee on, was a basic re-write of an old oracle forms and reports system
[04:20] <ashmund> I just logged out of a guest account, computer locked up with just a black screen.  After a hard reboot, I no longer have use of most number keys. Only "5","6".  On the number pad however I have full 123456789.  Any ideas?
[04:20] <janiteus> drizzt321 now it said i need to run this as super user.. -.- i am the only user..
[04:20] <Goldfisch> Drizzt321: You mean my Spring Python project?  (We are probably running the risk of being offtopic).
[04:20] <Drizzt321> Goldfisch: same general requirements, a few enhancements, but basically just make it really web based
[04:20] <Drizzt321> Goldfisch: ah, true
[04:20] <peeps_work> is there such a thing as an ethernet adapter for that attaches to IDe?
[04:20] <Drizzt321> janiteus: ah...well, you'll have to run it with sudo
[04:20] <Drizzt321> janiteus: not sure how to do that through GUI
[04:20] <kitche> !offtopic | kiba Drizzt321 Goldfisch
[04:20] <ubotu> kiba Drizzt321 Goldfisch: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:21] <kiba> ah sorry
[04:21] <ashmund> This is a huge problem because I can no longer login to my main account or root.
[04:21] <Drizzt321> indeed
[04:21] <shk> does anyone know how i can update my libc6 and xserver-xorg-core?
[04:21] <Drizzt321> ashmund: ahhh, when you reboot, before grub starts to boot, select the safe mode kernel?
[04:21] <jetscreamer> apt-get upfrade?
[04:21] <jetscreamer> grade
[04:21] <Drizzt321> shk: you tried apt-get upgrade?
[04:22] <shk> i did
[04:22] <Drizzt321> shk: if that doesn't work, try apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:22] <jetscreamer> apt-get update first?
[04:22] <Drizzt321> shk: that should upgrade pretty much everything
[04:22] <shk> yes i did update && upgrade
[04:22] <Goldfisch> ashmund: Do you have ssh-server running, and able to remotely access the machine?
[04:22] <shk> ill do dist-upgrade now
[04:22] <jetscreamer> then it's updated probably.. you must want a later version
[04:22] <ashmund> Goldfisch:No.
[04:22] <lufis> shk: You're already using the latest version
[04:22] <jetscreamer> for some hacker stuff
[04:22] <jetscreamer> you hacker!!!
[04:22] <ashmund> Drizzt321: I'll try that.
[04:22] <Drizzt321> jetscreamer: thats a compliment actually
[04:22] <jetscreamer> oops wrong channel
[04:22] <jetscreamer> yes i know
[04:22] <Drizzt321> lol
[04:22] <lufis> shk: there's a dependency issue between versions
[04:23] <jureg> omfg...
[04:23] <kiba> hmm..hacker..........brilliant programmers
[04:23] <Drizzt321> lufis: dist-upgrade can sometimes fix those
[04:23] <jetscreamer> old school hacker was not a black hat
[04:23] <lufis> Drizzt321: But s/he is using feisty
[04:23] <shk> i did distupgrade and it gave me the same dependency error
[04:23] <Drizzt321> huh
[04:23] <Goldfisch> hacker is pretty loose, sometimes it means brilliant programmer, other times, blackhat.
[04:23] <Drizzt321> no clue then
[04:23] <Drizzt321> sorry shk
[04:23] <shk> no problem
[04:24] <Drizzt321> I'm not actually a desktop ubuntu user, I'm more of a debian user, trying out ubuntu-server
[04:24] <Drizzt321> lol
[04:24] <zerokill88> hacker = programmer
[04:24] <kiba> I am a former debian user
[04:24] <kiba> considered going back to debian unstable
[04:24] <MajorPayne> zerokill88: Sometimes you don't have to be a programmer to be considered a hacker.
[04:24] <Drizzt321> zerokill88: actually, the original definition was anybody who did something very well, and got acclaim from his/her peers. generally in a technical field
[04:24] <kiba> actually the first distro I used regularly
[04:24] <Geek_> hacker= anyone who delves into things and makes em work in ways they were never meant to ;)
[04:24] <sport> i feel stupid for asking this, how do you close less
[04:24] <jetscreamer> q
[04:24] <Drizzt321> sport: q
[04:24] <jetscreamer> sport: i didn't know either, in the beginning
[04:25] <ari_stress> morning all
 ha thx
[04:25] <Drizzt321> np
[04:25] <Rhino0nT> sport: q
[04:25] <Drizzt321> lol, you're late Rhino0nT
[04:25] <Herati> I recently installed an external Western Digital high capacity drive with a Firewire interface
[04:25] <jetscreamer> yeah don't thank me
[04:25] <zerokill88> majorpayne ya but they all say you have to know some knowledge of progrmming to be descent
[04:25] <MajorPayne> zerokill88: None at all.
[04:25] <zerokill88> drizzt321 true
[04:25] <Drizzt321> Herati: congratulations
[04:25] <zerokill88> MajorPayne well wouldnt you need to know how things worked?
[04:25] <Herati> works fine ... except when I try to eject it I get an error - Can't eject !
[04:25] <Herati> thans Dizzt321
[04:26] <Drizzt321> Herati: did you unmount it first?
[04:26] <deathblooms237> Hey guys. Need help when availbal !
[04:26] <d4rkmonkey> !ask deathblooms237
[04:26] <Drizzt321> deathblooms237: just ask it please, don't ask to ask
[04:26] <MajorPayne> zerokill88: Read what Geek_ said.
[04:26] <jetscreamer> lsof Herati and close stuff
[04:26] <d4rkmonkey> !ask | deathblooms237
[04:26] <ubotu> deathblooms237: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:26] <bruenig> some knowledge of programming is really easy, if you know what for while if and functions and such are, you can be a hacker, remember to hack is by definition to modify not to write something yourself
[04:26] <Herati> hmmm... there's nothing to umount in /mnt
[04:26] <deathblooms237> Where do i put a theme in for gaim ?
[04:26] <Drizzt321> Herati: yea, try lsof like jetscreamer  suggested
[04:26] <zerokill88> MajorPayne what did geek say?
[04:26] <Drizzt321> deathblooms237: probably somewhere in you're ~/.gaim folder
[04:26] <Drizzt321> not 100% sure tho
[04:26] <jetscreamer> your
[04:27] <Drizzt321> your*, sorry
[04:27] <Herati> OK - I"ll try. thanks.
[04:27] <univremonster> Drizzt321, I like your sn
[04:27] <d4rkmonkey> !debuntu
[04:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about debuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:27] <d4rkmonkey> hmm
[04:27] <Drizzt321> univremonster: thank you
[04:27] <MajorPayne> zerokill88: It's a bit off topic.
[04:28] <zerokill88> MajorPayne oh
[04:28] <angeldarkholme> hi guys: i have a problem with a wireless card intel 3945 in a computer with ubuntu 7.04, the network manager is not showing the wireless networks, but i know the card is working fine because i can see the wireless networks in command line with "iwlist eth1 scan"
[04:28] <Geek_> d4rkmonkey: debuntu? ubuntu varients are mostly classified by their DE
[04:28] <sport> can anyone tell me how gentoo would differ from ubuntu w/o packaged apps and gnome?
[04:28] <deathblooms237> i cant find the Gaim folder ?
[04:29] <d4rkmonkey> Geek_, http://www.debuntu.org/ another site mentioned it, after ubotu didn't have anything I just googled and got the site
[04:29] <Drizzt321> deathblooms237: its a hidden folder, prefixed by a period ".gaim" in your home directory
[04:29] <jetscreamer> cd ~/.gaim
[04:29] <buize> hey guys, so my ipod, phone, and other usb devices stopped working in ubuntu
[04:29] <Geek_> sport: different package manager= different methods of handleing deps and different package styles...
[04:29] <angeldarkholme> pleaaase im tired of searching about my problem !
[04:29] <sport> Geek_ what does that mean when you use it
[04:29] <Rhino0nT> Drizzt321 : playing some race in here? :D
[04:29] <buize> they're not being detected by ubuntu, they both work fine in windows, anyone familiar with the problem?
[04:29] <deathblooms237> when i go to search and type .gaim nothing comes up
[04:30] <jetscreamer> !info xsupplicant
[04:30] <ubotu> xsupplicant: 802.1x and 802.11i supplicant (client). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4.dfsg.1-1 (feisty), package size 447 kB, installed size 928 kB
[04:30] <jetscreamer> cd ~/.gaim
[04:30] <Geek_> sport: VERY little. mostly superficial things ;)
[04:30] <buize> and is it possible to get sound from multiple sources playing simultaneously
[04:30] <Drizzt321> angeldarkholme: I'm really not sure about the ubunto part, but I'd say that you probably can just configure it from the cli and use it that way
[04:30] <Drizzt321> angeldarkholme: I have the same chipset, but I run debian so I have it setup differently
[04:30] <rredd4> is there a program for ubuntu that I can create slideshows with music for pictures?
[04:30] <angeldarkholme> :O
[04:30] <KimMe> and i know :P
[04:30] <Drizzt321> Rhino0nT: not really, although I did get the name from the Campaign setting, not the books :P
[04:30] <angeldarkholme> now I have at least something different to seach for...thanks!
[04:30] <KimMe> ne
[04:30] <KimMe> :d
[04:31] <jetscreamer> mencoder
[04:31] <KimMe> yes yes
[04:31] <KimMe> :D
[04:31] <deathblooms237> omg i am dum. can i not go to serach and type .gaim ?
[04:31] <sport> Geek_ id like to try gentoo on a old laptop and try the new KDE beta to get a blank slate feel. would that be accurate?
[04:31] <vbabiy> Hey guys can any one give me some help install a Intel 2200 BG wireless card on a Dell laptop
[04:32] <Geek_> sport: if your not very confident with linux do NOT go for gentoo ;p
[04:32] <bruenig> deathblooms237, it is in your home directory
[04:32] <Geek_> at the very least, make sure it is a distro with an installer
[04:32] <cafuego> And if you are very confident with linux do NOT go for gentoo
[04:32] <bruenig> gentoo has an installer
[04:32] <Geek_> o0
[04:32] <xenoie> Gentoo is do-it-yourself linux
[04:32] <bruenig> it's installer is just as simple as ubuntu's, it is graphical
[04:33] <cafuego> Gentoo causes global warming
[04:33] <Geek_> since when? last time i messed with it, i booted it in, it stared at me, i stared at it, and i went back to suse and ubuntu ;p
[04:33] <Pelo> gentoo raped my sister
[04:33] <brisr> good evening yall.
[04:33] <unagi> what do i have to do to get videos to play in firefox?
[04:33] <gandalf> hiall
[04:33] <cafuego> !ohmy | Pelo
[04:33] <ubotu> Pelo: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:33] <deathblooms237> ok where at in home. All i see is Desktop and shared
[04:33] <DWSR> anyone got a copy of bcm5wl.inf lying around so I can install it on my computer? I want to use ndiswrapper for faster net access.
[04:33] <bruenig> Geek_, for quite a while now, it boots to gnome desktop in live cd and you click the install icon, same sort of thing
[04:33] <sport> what would be the best linux to get as a pure CLI and install KDE to and jut run with?
[04:33] <sport> just*
[04:33] <bruenig> sport, arch
[04:33] <brisr> Does anyone use..Audiocy
[04:34] <gandalf> I have a serious lp problem, do you know where to get some help?
[04:34] <DWSR> brisr: Audacity?
[04:34] <ldz420> lufis: sorry left for a sec.  I would like to know about where to file inside of the system hierarchy
[04:34] <rredd4> is there slideshow software available for linux/ubuntu? name please
[04:34] <Geek_> brisr: not in linux, but yeah, i have
[04:34] <jamesdell> !ntfs-3g
[04:34] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:34] <Drizzt321> rredd4: try searching through synaptic
[04:34] <lufis> ldz420: for what kind of file?
[04:34] <bruenig> rredd4, openoffice impress
[04:34] <brisr> Yea Audacity
[04:35] <brisr> sorry..
[04:35] <brisr> I just need to get the MP3 lib working.
[04:35] <unagi> what do i have to do to get videos to play in firefox?
[04:35] <brisr> the package I am having problems with it.
[04:35] <DWSR> brisr: libmpeg321?
[04:35] <Geek_> ahh
[04:35] <brisr> yeah
[04:35] <youknowme> unagi, expalin
[04:35] <deathblooms237> ok where at in home ? All i see is Desktop and shared
[04:35] <Herati> is it possible to use lsof to see what's connected to the system through Firewire?
[04:35] <rredd4> bruenig: ty
[04:35] <youknowme> unagi, my bad, please explain better. Like what kind of video?
[04:35] <jetscreamer> YOU CAN'T SEE . UNLESS YOU DO ls -l
[04:36] <ldz420> lufis: example .. what kind of files are supposed to go into /usr/src?
[04:36] <jetscreamer> TRY cd ~/.gaim
[04:36] <Pelo> deathblooms237,  are you talking to someone in particular,  using their nick will help them notice you
[04:36] <lufis> ldz420: /usr/src is for source tarballs
[04:36] <rredd4> Drizzt321   i thought you had to know the name of the software to search synaptic, not just a subject search
[04:36] <deathblooms237> Pelo, No just to any 1
[04:36] <brisr> DWSR, do you know what I am talkign about
[04:36] <youknowme> unagi? you still want help?
[04:36] <bruenig> lufis, /usr/src is for the linux source
[04:36] <Drizzt321> rredd4: well, you can search for keywords in the descriptions, which can sometimes find what you want
[04:36] <brisr> any ideas? I downloaded the pkg
[04:36] <Pelo> deathblooms237,  what are you trying to do ?
[04:37] <brisr> now just getting it to install is the thing.
[04:37] <ldz420> lufis: what I am looking for is a documentation that explains this
[04:37] <gandalf> does anyone has problem with lp when printing in landscape? Its just starts from the top middle of the page
[04:37] <DWSR> brisr, just try completely reinstalling it and all it's recommended/required packages and you should be fine? What exactly is the problem anyways?
[04:37] <deathblooms237> Pelo, looking for the gaim folder
[04:37] <Pelo> rredd4,  you can do keyword searchs in synaptic
[04:37] <gandalf> and there is nothing I can do to make it print lower
[04:37] <lufis> ldz420: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/linuxdir.html :)
[04:37] <decavolt> Is it possible to use some sort of --with-xxxxx=/usr/lib/ with dpkg installing a .deb?
[04:37] <brisr> ahh.. ok.. thanks
[04:37] <vbabiy> Hey can any on help me set up 03:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)
[04:37] <Pelo> deathblooms237,   crtl+h  will display the hidden folders,   .gaim is what you are looking for
[04:37] <brisr> just wanna export to MP3
[04:37] <helloRobot> im trying to install steam dedicated server and when i try to execute hldsupdatetool.bin my terminal says "No such file or directory". When I do ls, I can clearly see it.. Any ideas?
[04:37] <unagi> wellw hen i click on a link that takes me to an embedded video it doesnt play it just stays black youknowme
[04:37] <rredd4> Pelo even though I don't know the name of the software I want?
[04:37] <bruenig> Decadent, no
[04:37] <bruenig> decavolt, no
[04:37] <gandalf> ok
[04:38] <brisr> thanks all.. can't seem to figure out how to install the package LAME3.96
[04:38] <brisr> thanks all
[04:38] <d4rkmonkey> anyone here know enough about .tcl files enough to help me? it won't accept :) as a keyword for a plugin in aMSN. I've tried doung ":)" and \:\) but neither work...
[04:38] <gandalf> so no lp guru here
[04:38] <brisr> thats.. rather
[04:38] <Pelo> vbabiy,  try searching for you model in the forum  there is probably a how to
[04:38] <gandalf> thanks anyway
[04:38] <gandalf> bye
[04:38] <decavolt> bruenig, Is there any way I can do that via Synaptic instead?
[04:38] <bruenig> decavolt, synaptic is a front end
[04:38] <vbabiy> Pelo: thanks
[04:38] <jamesdell> !mount
[04:38] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:38] <helloRobot> im trying to install steam dedicated server and when i try to execute hldsupdatetool.bin my terminal says "No such file or directory". When I do ls, I can clearly see it.. Any ideas?
[04:38] <bruenig> decavolt, just recompile and change the --prefix or whatever
[04:38] <decavolt> bruenig, ah, ok. Thanks. My binary will install (sans the option I want) but the source won't
[04:38] <cafuego> brisr: liblame is packaged up
[04:39] <decavolt> bruenig, --prefix? I'll look into that, thank you
[04:39] <DWSR> helloRobot, ./hldsupdatetool.bin
[04:39] <DWSR> make sure you use the ./
[04:39] <cafuego> brisr: install `liblame0'
[04:39] <soothsayer> Can someone explain to me if a dbg package provides debugging symbols when attaching gdb to a running process?
[04:39] <DWSR> by default, bash doesn't search the current directory.
[04:39] <Pelo> helloRobot,   change the permission and use   sudo ./hldsupdatetool.bin as a command
[04:39] <brisr> how? where do I get that.
[04:39] <ldz420> lufis thx bratha
[04:39] <cafuego> brisr: synaptic/apt
[04:39] <brisr> search for it I guess.
[04:39] <brisr> thanks
[04:39] <mildsauce> !touchscreen
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touchscreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <deathblooms237> Pelo, it says on the site to copy the gaim them to /usr/local
[04:40] <bruenig> deathblooms237, nothing about gaim will be in /usr/local
[04:40] <helloRobot> Pelo: I tried that too.. sudo chmod -777 hldsupdatetool.bin
[04:40] <helloRobot> Pelo: then sudo ./hldsupdatetool.bin
[04:40] <helloRobot> Pelo: no luck :(
[04:40] <deathblooms237> Crap i cant find away to install this gaim Theme
[04:40] <univremonster> !Neo1973
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about neo1973 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <bruenig> helloRobot, you don't do -777, you do 777
[04:41] <helloRobot> ah wups
[04:41] <helloRobot> thanks
[04:41] <sport> thats rough i try to look up the cmds for nano and all i get is deals on ipods...
[04:41] <bruenig> deathblooms237, dpkg -L gaim, that should give you an idea of where it is meant to be
[04:41] <Pelo> deathblooms237,  setting up a theme for gaim ?  ok  then try this,  open nautilus as root with alt+f2   gksu nautilus /usr/local    ,  you should go straight to that folder,  find the gaim one and see if you can copy your theme to it
[04:42] <unagi> youknowme: any ideas?
[04:42] <Pelo> helloRobot,  ok try looking in here for info on how to install a bin file  maybe I forgot something  ( and also make sure you spelled it correctly  case count)   http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[04:42] <bruenig> deathblooms237, it almost definitely will be somewhere in /usr/share
[04:43] <Pelo> deathblooms237,  /usr/share/pixmap/gaim
[04:43] <bruenig> pixmaps*
[04:44] <janiteus> hi again :) can someone tell me hoe to install wine?
[04:44] <Pelo> nitpicker
[04:44] <bruenig> janiteus, sudo apt-get install wine
[04:44] <Pelo> janiteus, sudo apt-get install wine
[04:44] <janiteus> i dl'ed a .list file but i dont know what to do with it :D
[04:44] <bruenig> janiteus, you don't need it, just delete it
[04:44] <Pelo> janiteus,  no idea what that is
[04:44] <IdNotFound> janiteus: you probably downloaded the apt-get repositories for the latest wine
[04:44] <Cod1> k
[04:44] <bruenig> it is a sources.list replacement likely
[04:45] <IdNotFound> janiteus: you should put that on /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[04:45] <Cod1> Anyone familiar with Steam on Wine??
[04:45] <Pelo> IdNotFound,  don'gt mess with the sources.list file unless you know what you are doing
[04:45] <Pelo> Cod1,  the ppl in #winehq probably are
[04:45] <unagi> what do i have to do to get videos to play in firefox?
[04:45] <Cod1> ty
[04:45] <janiteus> yeah i did that, now its installing it :)
[04:45] <bruenig> unagi, sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[04:45] <IdNotFound> Cod1: there's a nice tutorial on Linux Gamers
[04:45] <BlackaCid> Is there a way to force 32-bit programs to run on a 64-bit version of ubuntu
[04:46] <Pelo> unagi,  sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer , sudo apt-get remove totem-mozilla
[04:46] <helloRobot> BlackaCid: try ia32-libs package
[04:46] <BlackaCid> alright
[04:46] <bruenig> BlackaCid, 32 bit will execute fine in 64 bit, your problem likely is with libraries, you need any dependencies that is it requires to be installed with their 32 bit versions
[04:46] <IdNotFound> Pelo: true... I guess it is probably wine's official repo, though... shouldn't it complain about gpg signatures anyway?
[04:46] <bruenig> it*
[04:46] <janiteus> IdNotFound, you happen to know how to install graphic drivers? :)
[04:47] <IdNotFound> janiteus: Ubuntu has nice tutorials for that, is your gfx card ATI or NVidia ?
[04:47] <Joe_CoT> question: i'm coding C++ : if a char * is assigned a c-string, and i delete it, i get a segfault; if a char * is assigned an array, and i don't delete it, i leak memory. is there any way to tell whether a char * is a c-string?
[04:47] <janiteus> ATI
[04:47] <janiteus> can u link me to a tutorial?
[04:47] <janiteus> i can do the rest myself
[04:47] <Pelo> IdNotFound, not quite what I meant, in anycase you can install the wine repos from the terminal without manualy editing the source.list file
[04:47] <IdNotFound> !fglrx | janiteus
[04:47] <bruenig> Joe_CoT, ##c++
[04:47] <janiteus> o.O
[04:47] <Joe_CoT> thanks
[04:47] <ubotu> janiteus: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:47] <IdNotFound> janiteus: trying to use the channel bot hehe
[04:48] <IdNotFound> Pelo: not sure what you meant... it doesn't edit the sources.list, it is a separate file
[04:49] <Drizzt321> w30: yes indeed
[04:49] <Pelo> w30,  linux is made to be networked to start with
[04:49] <bruenig> IdNotFound, it is still the same concept though
[04:49] <IdNotFound> w30: samba is technically for linux aswell :)
[04:49] <Guest36890> need help!
[04:49] <Drizzt321> w30: and don't forget all the weird ways, like appletalk or decnet
[04:49] <Drizzt321> hehe
[04:49] <bruenig> samba is linux to windows, I imagine windows to windows is fairly easy
[04:49] <Pelo> break-,  we need specifics
[04:50] <break-> i'm trying to get my friend--the one who needs the help
[04:50] <break-> in here
[04:50] <IdNotFound> bruenig: I see... I thought he was afraid of wrongly editing the sources.list... nevermind then :)
[04:50] <Pelo> bruenig,  windows to windows is indead fairly easy , untill you enable the ***** firewalll
[04:50] <break-> he has an 8600gt, and he just installed feisty...he can't get the nvidia driver to install
[04:50] <d4rkmonkey> !nvidia
[04:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:51] <mildsauce> Command for terminal to echo cpu?
[04:51] <Geek_> Pelo: i have a windows lan with smb. works fine even with built in firewall ;)
[04:51] <Pelo> IdNotFound,  I am afraid of poorly edited sources.list  they give me nightmares
[04:51] <Sanctusorium> Hey guys, how would I install splashscreens?
[04:51] <bruenig> !usplash | Sanctusorium
[04:51] <ubotu> Sanctusorium: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[04:51] <tofaffy> I downloaded a theme...I opened the gnoem theme manager and it says invalid file format. The file is a tar.gz file...what am I doing wrong?
[04:51] <Pelo> Geek_,  I meant windows to windows , but never mind
[04:51] <bruenig> tofaffy, it needs to be a metacity theme
[04:51] <Sanctusorium> thanks much ;)
[04:52] <tofaffy> Umm...So I can't install it?
[04:52] <tofaffy> I installed it last time.
[04:52] <Geek_> pelo: windows to windows. all my ubuntu systems are VMs right now ;p
[04:52] <Pelo> tofaffy,  sometimes the theme tar.gz gets repacked in another tar.gz with extra files, try unpakiing it once
[04:52] <break-> are there linux drivers for the 8600gt?
[04:52] <tofaffy> Ti's not I odn't think...one sec and i'll check
[04:52] <bruenig> !repeat | break-
[04:52] <ubotu> break-: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:53] <tofaffy> Fixed...thanks
[04:53] <break-> im not repeating anything
[04:53] <Pelo> break-,  bruenig gave you a link to a nvidia how to a few mintes ago , check it out
[04:53] <break-> he tried that, it doesn't work
[04:53] <bruenig> !doesn't work
[04:53] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[04:53] <IdNotFound> Pelo: oh, then I guess I was right... Wine provides official repos on their website, through additional .list files... They work fine, I have them isntalled
[04:53] <Pelo> break-,  did you try looking up your card model in the forum to see what other users came up with ?
[04:53] <kazukisan> I am trying to play a dvd movie, when the movie plays when seans become kind fast or lots of movement i see black lines???
[04:54] <break-> Your hardware does not need any restricted drivers:
[04:54] <bruenig> this is the only linux channel I see that has so much problems with graphics cards
[04:54] <break-> that is what he gets
[04:54] <ThanatosDrive> What's the command to kill the uhhh
[04:54] <bruenig> break-, nvidia.com
[04:54] <ThanatosDrive> Using mouse
[04:54] <ThanatosDrive> click
[04:54] <IdNotFound> bruenig: probably because home users are mostly using ubuntu ? (that I know of, at least)
[04:54] <sport> bruenig: how do you save in nano? ctrl-s did something weird...
[04:54] <mrwho> How do I start alsa?
[04:54] <Geek_> ThanatosDrive: never heard of a uhhh. even as a newbie
[04:54] <Pelo> bruenig, this is the only distro that is so noob freindly
[04:54] <bruenig> sport, it says on the bottom ^w
[04:55] <kazukisan> I am trying to play a dvd movie, when the movie plays when seans become kind fast or lots of movement i see black lines???
[04:55] <Geek_> sport: quit nano, it will ask if you wanna save
[04:55] <Geek_> Pelo: i disagree ;), theres lots of newbie friendly distros
[04:55] <break-> how do you leave X
[04:55] <sport> bruenig: it says "where is"
[04:55] <ThanatosDrive> What is the command to kill a program using the mouse?
[04:55] <Pelo> kazukisan,   what player are you using
[04:55] <mrwho> alsa | start?
[04:55] <bruenig> I think it is ^w, I haven't used nano in quite some time
[04:55] <Pelo> Geek_,  this is the most high profile one
[04:55] <kazukisan> Pelo, i tried vlc, movie player totem
[04:55] <mytruehero> I'm trying to install a package imagemagick-dev, but I get the error message "Package imagemagick-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package." how can I fix this?
[04:55] <d4rkmonkey> break-, why would you want to leave X? do you mean restart X?
[04:55] <w30> bruenig, probably because Ubuntu is attracting a lot of new unlearned Linux first timers that strike out on their own initiative.
[04:56] <Geek_> bruenig, sport: close nano. it will ask if you want to save
[04:56] <bruenig> w30, it still is just an amazing mass of people
[04:56] <bruenig> Geek_, there is another way to do it
[04:56] <Pelo> !dvd | kazukisan  review this to start with iit may help
[04:56] <ubotu> kazukisan  review this to start with iit may help: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:56] <w30> bruenig, to their credit of course for the fortitude to do that
[04:56] <RobNyc> !true-combat
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about true-combat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <RobNyc> !truecombat
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about truecombat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <bruenig> w30, maybe the other distros have better docs, that is probably it
[04:56] <holychico> anyone able to tell me why i get pemission denied when i use "sudo echo 'something' >> somefile" ?
[04:57] <ThanatosDrive> What is the command to kill a program using the mouse?
[04:57] <tofaffy> Went to ./config and it said I was missing my c something...any ideas?
[04:57] <RobNyc> !enemy-territory
[04:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about enemy-territory - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:57] <RobNyc> !games
[04:57] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[04:57] <mytruehero> I'm trying to install a package imagemagick-dev, but I get the error message "Package imagemagick-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package." how can I fix this?
[04:57] <bruenig> w30, when I installed it for arch, I just followed the wiki step by step, but ubuntu doesn't really have that, it tries to be super easy and do it all for you but then nobody knows what the hell to do
[04:57] <Pelo> ThanatosDrive,   alt-f2 xkill
[04:57] <ThanatosDrive> Pelo: Thank you.
[04:58] <astro76> holychico, use sudo sh -c "echo 'something' >> somefile"
[04:58] <bruenig> Pelo, you are in here as much as I am, you see it
[04:58] <w30> bruenig, lots of hardware variety in here to probably from old second machines to brand new stuff.
[04:58] <holychico> astro76, same thing
[04:59] <delight> what do i have to change to make my mysql database accesible from other clients ? (feisty)
[04:59] <holychico> astro76, actually it worked... i forgot the quotes
[04:59] <holychico> astro76, thanks
[04:59] <astro76> np
[04:59] <Pelo> delight, try asking in #mysql
[05:00] <kazukisan> Pelo, i have all that done
[05:00] <ComputerHermit> hi
[05:00] <delight> Pelo: oh ok  ... i thought it might be a little switch or so ... cause i already got the users configured right to access @% ...
[05:00] <vbabiy> Pelo: hey no luck
[05:01] <Vuen> hey guys, anyone running Starcraft in wine?
[05:01] <delight> there must be some global switch like in postgresql thou preventing of access
[05:01] <Pelo> kazukisan, check the forum if see if some else has had that issue and rhow they solved it
[05:01] <holychico> astro76, but ti erases the content of thu file... what if i need to add something to the file?
[05:01] <moyer> anyone know how to remove the boot screen permanantly so i can just read whats being loaded.. i just wanna see text.. i dont wanna see that ubuntu boot splash upon startup
[05:01] <astro76> holychico, it does?? >> should append, > overwrites
[05:02] <ComputerHermit> moyer that is strange man
[05:02] <moyer> ComputerHermit :why?
[05:02] <holychico> astro76, another mistake from my part :)
[05:02] <holychico> thanks again!
[05:02] <ComputerHermit> because dude its only a splash screen
[05:02] <IdNotFound> delight: it is a mysql configuration, but I don't recall from the top of my head... it is per user too, IIRC
[05:02] <sport> can i apt get the newest version of Apache or is it wiser to compile?
[05:02] <bullgard4> kern.log prints: "pnp: Failed to activate device 00:06." How can I determine what '00:06' means? Is this a number in the Plug-and-Play namespace?
[05:02] <moyer> lol
[05:02] <ComputerHermit> hehe
[05:03] <bruenig> moyer, it isn't strange, he doesn't know what he is talking about, edit out "splash" and "quiet" arguments from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:03] <w30> bruenig, and Nvidia has about three drivers out now, old-late-new so it makes things worse because of finding out if you have which of the chips.
[05:03] <moyer> ah fantastic thank you :)
[05:03] <peeps_work> does anyone know what setupcon is?
[05:03] <moyer> just remove them from the file completely?
[05:03] <bruenig> moyer, yeah, you can sed 's/splash//g' if you want or do it yourself
[05:03] <peeps_work> i think my /etc/network/interfaces is borked
[05:04] <moyer> bruenig :im sorry i dont know what that means :)
[05:04] <bruenig> w30, 3? oh my
[05:04] <wolfen69> wont ctrl+f2 give verbose mode on startup?
[05:04] <w30> bruenig, my x windows needed the nividia-new to work but I tried the wrong stuff first
[05:05] <bruenig> moyer, oh, nevermind it then, just delete any occurrence of splash and quiet from the file, that command would delete any occurrence of splash but it is unimportant
[05:05] <liquiddoom> !bug
[05:05] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[05:05] <pawan> how to install compiz on gnome
[05:05] <w30> bruenig, hope for an open 3d Nvidia driver someday.
[05:05] <moyer> wow
[05:05] <ComputerHermit> bruenig how do you know I dont know what I'm talking about
[05:05] <Pelo> pawan,  asking in #ubuntu-effects would get you better help on this
[05:05] <moyer> bruenig :thats actually really cool i like that. thanks
[05:06] <bruenig> ComputerHermit, when you said seeing the output of the boot is unimportant, that seemed to be the tip off
[05:06] <kitche> w30: well nvidia only has two drivers regular and legacy ubuntu tends to brek them up to three drivers for the otehr series
[05:06] <ComputerHermit> bruenig I feel you
[05:06] <ComputerHermit> np
[05:06] <Vuen> does anyone here run any game at all under wine?
[05:07] <tofaffy> I went to do ./configure to isntall something...it said::: "C compiler cannot create executables"
[05:07] <wolfen69> is there an ubuntu social room around here?
[05:07] <bruenig> tofaffy, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:07] <tofaffy> wolfen69: join ubuntu-offtopic
[05:07] <moyer> dammit bruenig i knew that one
[05:07] <moyer> lol
[05:07] <tofaffy> thanks bruenig..>I knew it was somethign liekt hat, just wcoudnlt' rememebr
[05:07] <wolfen69> thx tofaffy
[05:07] <Pelo> Vuen,  try asking the lovely ppl in #winehq about it , I am sure they can help
[05:07] <bruenig> wow
[05:07] <bruenig> !english | tofaffy
[05:07] <ubotu> tofaffy: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[05:07] <hortian> hey, I'm trying to run an install from a cd, and it seems like I don't have execute permission on the cd ... I tried to edit mtab, but whenever I put the cd in ubuntu appears to add a new line to /etc/mtab to ensure that the cd is loaded read only
[05:08] <tofaffy> bruenig: I speak english well...I just am a bad typist.
[05:08] <hortian> any ideas how to fix this?
[05:08] <Templarian> I was wondering if a Ubuntu users were willing to test a project I just got done with, Requires Flash 9/JS on. Need to know if all 3 mouse buttons work and hit a key. thx. http://www.templarian.com/u/ufile/index.html
[05:08] <tofaffy> I am american come to think of it :)
[05:08] <Vuen> Pelo: ah yes, thanks. I always forget that it's called #winehq, i tried #wine and found no one so i came here :p
[05:08] <Pelo> hortian,  just  a cd is read only
[05:08] <bruenig> hortian, the cd itself is obviously read only, but the filesystem should be editable
[05:09] <hortian> bruenig, I'm not sure I follow ... I'm not trying to write, just execute a shell script from the cd
[05:09] <hortian> and it doesn't work
[05:09] <bruenig> hortian, right, that should be no problem
[05:09] <mrwho> Can aomeone help me please!
[05:09] <Pelo> hortian,  change the permission of the file you are trying to execute
[05:09] <mrwho> anyone*
[05:09] <bruenig> !anyone | mrwho
[05:09] <ubotu> mrwho: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:09] <Pelo> mrwho,  waht with ?
[05:09] <w30> kitche, seem like every distro puts them in a deb or rpm and then they get even more choices.
[05:10] <bruenig> w30, don't forget pkg.tar.gz and .tgzs
[05:10] <astro76> hortian, what are you typing to execute it?
[05:10] <hortian> pelo, when I run 'chmod a+rx /media/cdrom0/install' it returns: 'chmod: changing permissions of `/media/cdrom0/install': Read-only file system'
[05:10] <w30> bruenig, ha
[05:10] <hortian> astro, I type /cdrom/install &
[05:10] <DWSR> Can someone help me install ndiswrapper?
[05:10] <mrwho> Need to start alsa
[05:10] <bruenig> hortian, you can't edit something on the cdrom
[05:10] <DWSR> I'm following the documentation and I've run intoa problem.
[05:10] <Pelo> hortian, i see , I don'T have a clue but I see
[05:11] <hortian> it ends with the error 'bash: /cdrom/install: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied'
[05:11] <Pelo> !sound | mrwho
[05:11] <ubotu> mrwho: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:11] <bruenig> hortian, you are trying to modify files on the cd itself, you need to modify the files that have been put into memory, the filesystem
[05:11] <bruenig> hortian, like write the script in ~ and then run it
[05:11] <moyer> you guys are great here. thanks again for everything :)
[05:11] <RobNyc> !automount
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <hortian> bruenig ... I can try that, but I doubt the installation would go over like that...
[05:12] <Pelo> !fstab | RobNyc
[05:12] <ubotu> RobNyc: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[05:12] <w30> ubotu, watch your language!
[05:12] <bruenig> w30, could you explain what you are doing
[05:12] <DWSR> !ndiswrapper
[05:12] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:12] <hortian> the instructions say clearly to just type 'cdrom/install &' from the directory you want to install
[05:12] <RobNyc> Pelo: ty
[05:12] <BlackaCid> can someone help me install a 32-bit version of skype on a 64-bit version of ubuntu
[05:12] <bruenig> w30, why the ha? pkg.tar.gz and its package management tool is by far the best in all of linux
[05:12] <mrwho> Pelo: alsa | start?
[05:12] <RobNyc> im trying to have my drive automounted (Fat32) which wasnt automounted as it suppose to be after installation
[05:13] <winston> the nvidia driver refuses to work in ubuntu however it works in other distros
[05:13] <winston> what can i do
[05:13] <winston> x wont start
[05:13] <winston> after using the restricted drivers manager
[05:13] <DWSR> Can someone help me install ndiswrapper? I've run into a problem and I'm following the documentation located at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper.
[05:13] <Pelo> mrwho, the links ubotu gave you should help you get your sound problems sorted , that's the best I can do for you , I'm not all that good with alsa myself
[05:13] <bruenig> hortian, which instructions?
[05:13] <hortian> bruenig, the installation instructions with the program
[05:13] <Pelo> mrwho,  and I think it's suppose to be alsamixer
[05:13] <kandrews> hi everyone
[05:13] <winston> stupid ubuntu modules
[05:13] <mrwho> Sweet I knew I was missing something
[05:13] <bruenig> hortian, ohhh, I thought you were talking about the ubuntu live cd
[05:14] <binarydigit> winston: check the logs
[05:14] <BlackaCid> zachary@BlackaCid:~$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:14] <BlackaCid> Reading package lists... Done
[05:14] <BlackaCid> Building dependency tree
[05:14] <BlackaCid> Reading state information... Done
[05:14] <BlackaCid> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:14] <pchilds> I seem to have made a grave mistake when installing a gnome panel hack so that I could use or at least try out mac menu applet. This has caused problems with most of my apps which eliminates of cuts off the drop down menus of the apps. Is there a way to put gnome panel back to the way it was orginally with feisty?
[05:14] <Pelo> DWSR,  what problem did you run into ?
[05:14] <w30> bruenig, The ha was to make the number of packages ironic, we only need one the best one.
[05:14] <BlackaCid> oops
[05:14] <BlackaCid> wrong caht
[05:14] <bruenig> hortian, is this a bash script?
[05:14] <bruenig> w30, I agree, ubuntu needs to get on board with pkg.tar.gz
[05:14] <hortian> bruenig: yup
[05:14] <su-hoens`rZ> anyone know why the kubuntu alt cd installer doesn't locate 3 of my 4 sata drives even though the bios and the main cd find them fine? :(
[05:14] <bruenig> hortian, you can run ig with bash /path/to/file
[05:14] <pchilds> I thought it was compiz fusion causing the problem but nope it is that damn panel hack and mac menu applet
[05:14] <bruenig> it*
[05:14] <DWSR> Pelo, When I load the module (sudo depmod -a && sudo modprobe ndiswrapper), it doesn't load.
[05:15] <DWSR> Pelo, my tail /var/log/messages is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32312/
[05:15] <Pelo> DWSR,  I assume you have installed ndiswrapper ? and the other file that comes with it ?
[05:15] <DWSR> Pelo, I've been following the documentation in the wiki.
[05:15] <hortian> bruenig: ok, that's looking promising ... now the installer quits with '/media/cdrom0/update/install/main.sh: line 86: /media/cdrom0/update/bin/glnx86/xsetup: Permission denied'
[05:15] <kandrews> my friend is having a little trouble running a program in his home directory. It needs python to work and he has it in his path. Yet, the program keeps complaining there is no python. I'm running the program just fine with python2.5 so I don't think it is a python version issue. Anyone know anything I could try?
[05:15] <hortian> I clearly don't have some permission that I should have...
[05:15] <Pelo> DWSR,  I'm just doing some general trouble shooting here, I'm nto familiar enough with ndiswrapper to get into specifics
[05:16] <bruenig> hortian, sudo bash /path
[05:16] <kitche> kandrews: how is he running the program
[05:16] <bruenig> kandrews, he does what command? python something.py
[05:16] <winston> binarydigit: i did. it says no screens found.
[05:16] <mikubuntu> hey guys. can anyone reccomend a wireless card that works well with feisty?  will any linksys, dlink, or netgear do?
[05:16] <hortian> bruenig: I get the same error ... was running it as root
[05:16] <Pelo> DWSR, did you at any point install either a ndiswrapper***.deb file or compile one from source ?
[05:17] <DWSR> Pelo, installed them out of the repos.
[05:17] <kandrews> kitche: bruenig: he runs a bash script which then calls python.
[05:17] <binarydigit> winston: post your xorg.conf
[05:17] <peeps_work> would someon help me get networking going again, i'm not sure what happened to my config.
[05:17] <mrwho> Has anybody ever heard of mencal?
[05:17] <NigelS> winston: before that, that error is a standard description of something going wrong with the screen selection - there should be more there than that
[05:17] <bruenig> hortian, that appears to be a problem with the cd, you might copy all of its contents into a writable place and go from there
[05:17] <bruenig> kandrews, what does the bash script do when it calls python
[05:17] <nahka> so having trouble with the adsl modem, in windows its connected by usb, but edubuntu doesn't support that
[05:17] <nahka> I tried connecting with ethernet but it didn't work either
[05:17] <darfoo> Anyone here use crossover?
[05:17] <peeps_work> mrwho menstruation calendar?
[05:18] <hortian> bruenig: ok, I'll give that a shot
[05:18] <notgod> how do I get a 'mail' command when I have postfix installed?
[05:18] <winston> NigelS: /var/log/Xorg.0.log      /var/log/Xorg.1.log   /var/log/Xorg.20.log.old
[05:18] <winston> /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old  /var/log/Xorg.20.log  /var/log/Xorg.21.log
[05:18] <ramseize> can anyone help me about NTFS-3g
[05:18] <winston> which log would you like me to post?
[05:18] <Pelo> DWSR,  ok , then the only thing i (personnaly) can suggest at thispoint it to check your spelling in that command,  or ask again periodicaly for someone else to helpyou , it would help you to state the specific problem when you ask , ie the modprobe issue
[05:18] <nahka> can someone help me in privat
[05:18] <bruenig> ramseize, install ntfs-3g, change every thing in your /etc/fstab from ntfs to ntfs-3g
[05:18] <kandrews> bruenig: do you mean the error it gives or do you want me to post the bash script?
[05:18] <NigelS> winston: the ones that aren;t archives :) and the xorg.conf
[05:18] <mrwho> Are you serious?
[05:19] <bruenig> kandrews, you can post the bash script, I meant the particular part of the bash script that actually does the python stuff
[05:19] <bruenig> !paste | kandrews
[05:19] <ubotu> kandrews: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:19] <winston> !paste
[05:19] <Pelo> nahka,  lookup your modem model in the forum see if there are instructions to help you out
[05:19] <NigelS> ramseize: apt-get ntfs-config and you can graphically enabme ntfs-3g
[05:19] <nahka> thanks
[05:19] <winston> !pastebin
[05:19] <ramseize> ok
[05:19] <winston> ubuto is broken
[05:19] <bullgard4> kern.log prints: "pnp: Failed to activate device 00:06." How can I determine what '00:06' stands for?
[05:19] <bruenig> ntfs-config what a waste
[05:20] <Pelo> !botsnack
[05:20] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[05:20] <IdNotFound> winston: it just messaged the info for !paste
[05:20] <gcarrillo> are there any font experts here??
[05:20] <bruenig> winston, I just had called !paste, that is why
[05:20] <IdNotFound> winston: it is just flood protection, it seems
[05:20] <cafuego> meine name ist kar, i am expert
[05:20] <Pelo> gcarrillo,  it help if you state the problem is someone knows the answer they will reply
[05:20] <NigelS> bruenig: kinda makes sense to me for new users - even old ones; poking around in fstab shouldn't be a standard procedure plus it can be awkward with random usb devices coming and going
[05:20] <bruenig> !pm | ramseize
[05:20] <ubotu> ramseize: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[05:20] <gcarrillo> Pelo: right, my bad
[05:21] <peeps_work> i have a network setup where it goes from cable modem to switch, and on the switch there is my computer, and also my wireless router.  is this wrong.  does the router need to be between the cable modem and computer to dish out DHCP?
[05:21] <bruenig> NigelS, changing ntfs to ntfs-3g, are you serious?
[05:21] <NigelS> bruenig: yes
[05:21] <kenji_> how can I install all the edubuntu apps in ubuntu?
[05:21] <bruenig> NigelS, perhaps they ought to not be using a computer if they don't know how to append -3g to the end of a word
[05:21] <gcarrillo> I have an LCD monitor and my fonts look a little vertically stretched on my desktop when compared to my laptop
[05:21] <gcarrillo> the fonts on my laptop look correct
[05:21] <Geek_> peeps_work: it does i think
[05:21] <Pelo> peeps_work,  I would put  modem > router > switch > computer
[05:22] <NigelS> bruenig: yeah, keep that for #debian :) ppl expect graphics
[05:22] <Pelo> peeps_work,  do you actualy need the switch in there ?
[05:22] <sport> Geek_ do you run Apache?
[05:22] <Geek_> sport: not on linux ;p
[05:22] <bruenig> ramseize, if you insist on using a proprietary and flawed filesystem such as ntfs even when you don't have windows installed, I cannot help you
[05:22] <Geek_> my current server is XAMPP on windows ;)
[05:22] <Fezzler> peeps: I'm fighting the same thing.  I have a cable modem to wired router.  I want to add a wireless router after the wired router and it is very hard to figure out
[05:23] <Davy_Jones> kenji_: look up the edubuntu package list
[05:23] <sport> Geek_ should i compile the newest ver or apt get it?
[05:23] <ramseize> question can i acces thru windows network?
[05:23] <Geek_> apt-get is usually a lot easier. someone else has done the testing for you
[05:23] <kenji_> Davy_jones so there is not a package that can install all the edubuntu apps?
[05:23] <Geek_> ramseize: access what, where?
[05:23] <Pelo> ramseize,  you'll need to install samba to communicate with a windows machine
[05:23] <bruenig> NigelS, I just wonder how they installed ntfs-3g, who typed in the -3g there for them
[05:23] <ryanakca> If I enable password aging, and I don't change my password by x days, my account (the only one with sudo access) would be disabled, right? And I suppose to reenable it, I'd need a rescue floppy, chroot in, passwd, and then reboot back out?
[05:23] <ramseize> ok
[05:24] <kandrews> bruenig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32313/
[05:24] <apeitheo> What kernel does Feisty Fawn come with by default?
[05:24] <apeitheo> version*
[05:24] <Davy_Jones> kenji_: i don't think so.. you can try search for edubuntu in synaptic though
[05:24] <NigelS> ramseize: define your terms - access what, which direction? windows networking works well in linux, in fact with fuse-smb I think better than in windows :)
[05:24] <notgod> nevermind, got it. ;:)
[05:24] <Pelo> ryanakca, , I think that question is abit over the skill level in this channel
[05:24] <Fezzler> peeps: Mine are both Linksys products.  From what I understand, if you hook an ethernet cable from a port on router #1 to the Internet port on #2 (wireless) all computers in the LAN can share files and folders
[05:24] <varun0> when I try and mount my cdrom drive, I get a "Unable to identify CD-ROM format", but it works fine on Windows
[05:24] <ryanakca> Pelo: *shrugs*
[05:25] <Davy_Jones> kenji_: there seems to be a ubuntu-desktop package.. this is the one you'd need
[05:25] <NigelS> bruenig: synaptic, add/remove programs of course - the typing really isn't the point
[05:25] <kenji_> Davy_Jones I wanna a edubuntu-desktop not a ubuntu desktop
[05:25] <Pelo> varun0,  you can'T mount an empty cd-rom  drive, it will mount automaticaly wnen you put a cd in it
[05:25] <varun0> Pelo: it has a divx file on it
[05:26] <Fezzler> peeps: But if you put the cable from a port on #1 to a port on #2, router will act as two separate access points to the Internet.  Do I have that right?
[05:26] <bruenig> NigelS, good point on add/remove, I wonder how they use the keyboard though, 3 is hard sometimes, took me a long time to get used to type 3 because it isn't in the normal area of typing, that is probably the issue
[05:26] <Davy_Jones> Pelo: what's the question that's above the level of this channel?
[05:26] <sport> is ubuntu the kitten of linux distros?
[05:26] <bruenig> typing*
[05:26] <Davy_Jones> kenji_: yes, edubuntu-desktop
[05:26] <Pelo> varun0,  do other cd mout properly ?
[05:26] <Davy_Jones> kenji_: sorry
[05:26] <varun0> yes
[05:26] <level1__> hi
[05:26] <cmptrbuff> Hello
[05:26] <ryanakca> Davy_Jones: If I enable password aging, and I don't change my password by x days, my account (the only one with sudo access) would be disabled, right? And I suppose to reenable it, I'd need a rescue floppy, chroot in, passwd, and then reboot back out?
[05:26] <cmptrbuff> all
[05:26] <Nutubuntu> ryanakca, every password aging system I've used works in a more friendly way than *that* -- aging expires with no login, then user logs in with *old, expired* password, and is prompted to change it. The account is not disabled purely by virtue of having aged past the password's sell-by date
[05:26] <kenji_> Davy_jones there is not a kubuntu-desktop pachage
[05:26] <NigelS> bruenig: the problem is also with multiple USB drives that come and go whereas fstab defines static mounts - you don't always know what the drive will be
[05:26] <kandrews> bruenig: I'm going to log out and log back in. I've been trying to learn the command line more, but I don't know how to paste from the gui to this tty. brb, and thanks a bunch for your help!
[05:26] <Pelo> Davy_Jones, password aging app and related issues
[05:26] <kenji_> why should be a edubuntu-desktop package?
[05:26] <Davy_Jones> sport: it's just another distro, you can use it or pass it
[05:26] <level1__> I'm using the kubuntu amd64 alternate install cd.   How come there is no option to install grub, only lilo?
[05:26] <bruenig> NigelS, the random usb stuff is not defined in /etc/fstab, it is controlled by hal
[05:27] <ryanakca> Nutubuntu: ok, thanks :D
[05:27] <kazukisan> Pelo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=463266&highlight=dvd+black+lines , http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=451060&highlight=dvd+black+lines
[05:27] <NigelS> bruenig: sarcasm doesn't work better on IRC than it does IRL :)
[05:27] <sport> Davy_Jones: I like kittens
[05:27] <NigelS> bruenig: my point exactly
[05:27] <bruenig> NigelS, so what the hell is your point
[05:27] <cmptrbuff> I like Ubuntu
[05:27] <Pelo> kazukisan,  did you solve your problem ?
[05:27] <cmptrbuff> works great on my laptop
[05:27] <Pelo> cmptrbuff,  so do most of us,
[05:27] <NigelS> bruenig: your "replace ntfs with ntfs-3g" solution would not work for that
[05:27] <Davy_Jones> ryanakca: i'm not sure about that one but i think it's doable
[05:27] <kazukisan> Pelo, read those post real quick
[05:27] <kazukisan> Pelo,  heres anotherone http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=407317&highlight=dvd+black+lines
[05:27] <Davy_Jones> sport: ok?
[05:28] <kandrews> bruenig: I'm back.
[05:28] <Pelo> kazukisan, I'm not realy in the mood to do a lot of reading, can you give a quick summury ?
[05:28] <bruenig> kandrews, I have become a bit rusty with basename and dirname since I became familiar with parameter expansion
[05:28] <level1__> Shouldn't grub be the defualt on an alternate install cd?
[05:28] <cmptrbuff> any software that anyone recommend for ubuntu?
[05:28] <kazukisan> Pelo, basicly everybody asked but no ones answering
[05:28] <level1__> why is it only letting me use lilo?
[05:28] <Davy_Jones> it's about dvd black lines
[05:28] <varun0> Pelo: tune2fs says  wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda
[05:28] <Darkkish> hey what is the chan for beryl again/
[05:29] <Davy_Jones> Darkkish: #beryl.. duh!!!!!!!
[05:29] <mikubuntu> knock, knock.  can anyone tell me what wireless card will work well with feisty?  i saw a netgear notebook card on the clearance rack at office depot for $29, do you think it will work with my dell lat 600?
[05:29] <Pelo> varun0,  that's over my head i'm afraid
[05:29] <kazukisan> Can anyone help me fix my dvd playback problem -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=451060&highlight=dvd+black+lines is what is happening to me
[05:29] <Darkkish> Davy_Jones,  i was actually looking for #ubuntu-effects lol
[05:29] <varun0> Pelo: yea me 2 :-P
[05:29] <kandrews> bruenig: is that last line telling it to execute /usr/lib?
[05:29] <Pelo> kazukisan,  try asking the ppl in #mplayer or #vlc , they might know a solution
[05:29] <cmptrbuff> I'm fairly new to Linux.  I've tried a few variants but have came back to ubuntu
[05:29] <Davy_Jones> Darkkish: that's not the beryl channel
[05:30] <bruenig> kandrews, for one, you don't need to be escaping the " at the bottom I don't think
[05:30] <bruenig> kandrews, well realize it will only get to that line if exec "${0%.sh}.app/Contents/MacOS/Ren'Py Launcher" "$dir/${base%.sh}.py" "$@" doesn't fail, that could also be the issue
[05:30] <eRazor> Hi all
[05:30] <Fezzler> Dark beryl = #ubuntu_effects
[05:30] <level1__> how do i install grub!  I want to install grub!  lilo will not install! why is there no "install grub" option on the alternate install cd?!?
[05:31] <cmptrbuff> talk to you all later
[05:31] <Davy_Jones> cmptrbuff: ok, so what now?
[05:31] <kandrews> bruenig: ah
[05:31] <bruenig> kandrews, the ` make it harder to read, I would certainly recommend $()
[05:31] <eRazor> I am from an student of ISE, from a college called BMSCE
[05:31] <Superkuh> umask=0011 is equivelent to setting permissions to 766, right? (in the context of fstab entries)
[05:31] <eRazor> my college is planning to migrate to Ubuntu
[05:31] <marcot> Hello, I just installed ubuntu, and when I upgraded it, my sound stopped working, alsamixer was not running, and gnome-mixer could only recongnize the oss driver.
[05:31] <bitwiseshiftleft> does anyone here know how to set up CONFIG_NO_HZ on Ubuntu?  (or on the raw kernel, for that matter?)
[05:32] <eRazor> we have a problem but can anyone help with us
[05:32] <eRazor> ?
[05:32] <Pelo> level1__,  grub usualy installs automaticaly even on the alternate install cd,  it might just be set to skip the menu if  ubuntu is the only os on your comp ,  you can change that by commenting out the  hiden menu line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:32] <Fezzler> HMMM channel to get support to install Linksys wireless b router?
[05:32] <eRazor> Our college uses a Network simulator called NCTUns 2.0
[05:32] <marcot> Then I upgraded to alsa 1.0.4 getting the source, and now everything is working (including skype), but not flash.
[05:32] <mikubuntu> !wireless
[05:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:32] <bruenig> Superkuh, yes
[05:32] <marcot> So, when I try to watch a video in youtube I can't hear it.
[05:32] <Pelo> eRazor, please don'T use the enter key as punctuation , it makes it difficult to follow
[05:32] <eRazor> the documentation of NCTUns says it works only on FC3
[05:32] <richao1> !ping
[05:32] <ubotu> pong
[05:33] <eRazor> Pelo: Ok
[05:33] <eRazor> Pelo: I will type the entire thing
[05:34] <level1__> Pelo: if grub installs automatically, why does it ask to install lilo, then fail to install lilo?
[05:34] <eRazor> Our University has specified in the syllabus to use NCTUns, but the version that the college has says it runs only on FC3, but we students want all the systems to run Ubuntu since most of us use Ubuntu in our homes, can someone help us???
[05:34] <Pelo> level1__,  no idea,  when exactly are you asked to install lilo and why what os ?
[05:34] <nickrud> marcot, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash has a section on sound troubleshooting
[05:34] <rapid> ?? dmg
[05:34] <kandrews> bruenig: I am not versed in the art of bashscripting, can you give me a rough idea of what that last line is saying?
[05:35] <rapid> how to install dmg
[05:35] <marcot> nickrud: thanks a lot.
[05:35] <Davy_Jones> eRazor: can you just get it from them and install it on a test machine?
[05:35] <Dr_willis> rapid,  you refering to an APPLE OSX package file?
[05:35] <bruenig> kandrews, oh did you not write that? that is a really obfuscated script, it is hard really to figure out what is going on
[05:35] <level1__> Pelo: I set up raid, is that why?
[05:35] <rapid> Dr_willis, ack, i hope not :)
[05:35] <level1__> Pelo: it asked to install just after I finished setting up my partitions
[05:36] <Dr_willis> rapid,  thats the only thing  i know tha tuses .dmg (i think)
[05:36] <Pelo> level1__,  I'm not familiar with raid but that sounds like a possible culprit
[05:36] <eRazor> Davy_Jones: We tried it in one of the college's test machine itself. It did not work
[05:36] <kandrews> bruenig: no, it is a launch script for a program called ren'py.
[05:36] <richao1> rapid: modprobe hfs
[05:36] <Pelo> level1__,  maybe you should reveiw the raid documentation <
[05:36] <Pelo> !raid | level1__
[05:36] <ubotu> level1__: Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[05:37] <richao1> rapid: it cannot be installed, but can be mounted or opened
[05:37] <bruenig> kandrews, I guess the guy writing it doesn't much care for readability
[05:37] <eRazor> Davy_Jones: Actually after the installation finishes successfully it will install a new kernel, and it is shown when grub loads, but this did not happen when we installed in Feisty
[05:37] <peeps_work> i can't get my vpn to work now.  I get this message: vpnc-connect: binding to <IP_ADDRESS>:500: Address already in use
[05:37] <Laeelin> i have a computer running the server version of FF, after installing, i removed the CDROM drive from it.... i'm trying to install a program with apt-get and it's asking for the FF server CD... how to I (can i?) make it stop asking for the CD and to use the internet instead?
[05:37] <kazukisan> Can anyone help me fix my dvd playback problem -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=451060&highlight=dvd+black+lines is what is happening to me, basicly i have vertical lines in my dvd playback on fast moving animation.
[05:38] <Pelo> Laeelin,  remove the cd, type   sudo apt-get update,  then you should be ok
[05:38] <grayhane> any idea what GStreamer I need to play mp3 is
[05:39] <richao1> grayhane: you just need plugins
[05:39] <Superkuh> Feisty 64bit; though it hardly matters. In fstab, [ UUID=8A14AA2714AA15EB /media/hdb5 ntfs-3g defaults,uid=1000,umask=0011,locale=en_CA.UTF-8 0 1 ] ; with this configuration, although it works fine without trying to set permissions, when umask is added the drive mounts as, oddly enough, owned by root instead of user 1000; me. And even for root, it is only readable. Any ideas? (full fstab: http://pastebin.ca/643921)
[05:39] <grayhane> which ones
[05:39] <Pelo> grayhane,  go into synaptic and intall all the gstreamer 10  , you'll be all set
[05:39] <richao1> in feisty, if you try to play the file, it should automatically dl the plugins for you
[05:39] <grayhane> thank you
[05:40] <Cod1> What's the best software for archives like zips,rars,tars,bz2, everything
[05:40] <Cybersoft> Chuck Norris is so badass, when Oswald shot at President Kennedy, Chuck blocked the bullets with his beard. Kennedy was so surprised, his head exploded
[05:40] <richao1> !topic
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[05:40] <janiteus> is rpm or bz2 file easier to install? :o
[05:40] <NigelS> eRazor: I suspect it can be made to work but not without some effort - it looks like they only test on fedora
[05:42] <Cod1> What's the best software for archives like zips,rars,tars,bz2, everything
[05:42] <janiteus> ok i dont have a clue what to do with bz2 file :D
[05:42] <grayhane> Pelo do you know about using an ipod on Linux ?
[05:42] <eRazor> NigelS: I did not get you, we tested on a Feisty machine but did not work
[05:42] <rapid> cod1, unrar for rar, unzip for zip, tar for tar, bz2 for bz.. pretty simple hey
 Laeelin,  remove the cd, type   sudo apt-get update,  then you should be ok <--- it's still asking for the CD when i try to insall SSH
[05:42] <nickrud> cod1, in the gui I use file-roller (archive manager in the menus)
[05:42] <richao1> !ping
[05:42] <ubotu> pong
[05:43] <Flannel> Laeelin: you need to remove the CD from your repositories
[05:43] <richao1> !botsnack
[05:43] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[05:43] <cod1> can It do rars?
[05:43] <Pelo> grayhane, someonewhat,  install gtkpod,  it's  a replacement for  itune , should do the trick
[05:43] <cod1> nickrud: can it do .rars?
[05:43] <ryanakca> what does port 136 (profile) do?
[05:43] <Laeelin> ok, thanks, (looking up how lol)