[04:30] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, really?!
[04:30] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, because I want to add Terminal icon on the popup dialog
[04:30] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, which popup dialog?
[04:30] <roxlu> when I created a link with "ln -s source target" how can I remove only the "target" link?
[04:30] <Inferus> lol Snake
[04:30] <dmsantam> roxlu, rm target
[04:30] <eyequeue> alexdbkim, you can at least add it to the gnome-panel bar at the top
[04:30] <roxlu> oke
[04:31] <mats> or man ln ;)
[04:31] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, you know when you click right mouse button on Desktop screen
[04:31] <roxlu> rm target was faster :-)
[04:31] <eyequeue> alexdbkim, right click on the bar
[04:31] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, ahh
[04:31] <alexdbkim> eyequeue, I knew that but thanks :)
[04:31] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, good question :)
[04:31] <eyequeue> alexdbkim, all i know how, heh
[04:31] <alexdbkim> :)
[04:31] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, it's gonna be a gnome config
[04:32] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, what is that?
[04:32] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, i don't know the name
[04:32] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, but when you ask question, you need to be more descriptive.
[04:32] <UKMatt> thats brutal for Ubuntu, i feel bad for the guys b/c i bet thats driving them crazy
[04:32] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, Fedora has the menu on the popup dialog which is really convinient :P
[04:32] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, e.g.  when i right click the gnome desktop, i get a menu. i want to add something to that menu. how can i do that?
[04:32] <chrnuh>
[04:33] <Snake> is there an approx. time till this bug is fixed? I don't mind not rebooting uptil an update is released, but I would like to know how long
[04:33] <Lattyware> 10.4 is the good Xorg update, yeah?
[04:33] <andax> Snake, it's already fixed
[04:33] <shawnr_> dmsantam, what are you trying to add
[04:33] <Snake> andax: They don't plan to release it into the stream...?
[04:33] <Lattyware> You need to hit 'Check' for it to update to the right one.
[04:33] <alexdbkim> shawnr_, Terminal
[04:34] <Snake> hmm
[04:34] <dmsantam> shawnr_, a custom command. like a terminal
[04:34] <andax> Snake, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ...
[04:34] <dmsantam> shawnr_, tell alexdbkim he wants to know :)
[04:34] <eyequeue> Snake, it depends how long it takes to propagate to your mirror, say 24h to be safe
[04:34] <Snake> andax: I am
[04:34] <graveson> what version of divx is an mp4 file
[04:34] <Snake> Ah wunderbar :)
[04:35] <alexdbkim> shawrn_, could you please tell me how to do that?
[04:35] <alexdbkim> shawrn_, :)
[04:35] <eyequeue> the 10.4 upgrade JUST propagated to us.archive.ubuntu.com btw all! :)
[04:35] <Lattyware> graveson: anything from 1 to 4 I think.
[04:35] <shawnr_> alexdbkim, nautilus takes control of your desktop. including the right click. you can stop that
[04:35] <andax> Snake, then modify /etc/apt/sources.list, use "us.archive.ubuntu.com"
[04:35] <Snake> andax: thats what I normally use
[04:35] <chrnuh>
[04:35] <chrnuh>
[04:35] <chrnuh>
[04:35] <chrnuh>
[04:35] <chrnuh>
[04:35] <chrnuh>
[04:35] <LoRez> Warning: `chrnuh' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[04:35] <chrnuh>
[04:35] <eyequeue> Snake, change the the us mirror and do it now if you like
[04:35] <chrnuh>
[04:35] <shawnr_> wow
[04:35] <eyequeue> Snake, change to the us mirror and do it now if you like
[04:36] <Snake> eyequeue: I am :)
[04:36] <shawnr_> chrnuh, try not to do that again
[04:36] <alexdbkim> shawrn_, could you explain me about it?
[04:36] <xevil> chrnuh: cat standing on the enter key?
[04:36] <eyequeue> Snake, wasn't sure if you could see it through the spammer
[04:36] <Lattyware> weo: Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4_i386.deb
[04:36] <Lattyware>   Could not connect to gb.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out
[04:36] <kashual> lo peeps
[04:36] <tom_> eyequeue: so, I ran dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg which seems to have gotten rid of the undefined symbol error, but I still get "no screens found" trying both 10 and 10.4
[04:36] <Lattyware> :/
[04:36] <shawnr_> alexdbkim, you can use gconf-editor to edit nautilus properties.
[04:37] <eyequeue> tom_, that surprises me, i feel your pain but don't know what to suggest
[04:37] <Intangir> hey guys, whats the easiest way to batch edit an entire directory with sed?
[04:37] <tom_> eyequeue: thanks for you help anyway :/
[04:37] <tom_> :)
[04:37] <mats> good luck, eyequeue
[04:37] <mats> ;)
[04:37] <andax> tom, maybe (just like me) you have messed up  your X config trying to figure out what's wrong so think about if you have modified something..
[04:38] <alexdbkim> shawrn_, thanks, I run gconf-editor but there are too many thigns in it so could you give me a hint which option I have to look at
[04:38] <frogzoo> tom_: did you run depmod?
[04:39] <tom_> andax: yes, that's why we ran the dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg script (which it tells you to do in the x config file is you messed with it and want to start again)
[04:39] <dijungal> question: what gui firewall can i install on ubuntu
[04:39] <dijungal> ?
[04:39] <monteiro> dijungal : firestarter
[04:39] <maxx03> hey can somebody help me out pls? synaptic seems to be broken... i can install packages using apt-get, but synaptic does nothing...
[04:39] <tom_> frogzoo: depmod didn't seem to do anything
[04:39] <andax> tom: that command basically just re-creates your xorg.conf file, maybe something else you have modified?
[04:39] <dijungal> it's not in the synaptic list
[04:39] <OoberMick> alexdbkim: have you tried nautilus-open-terminal?
[04:40] <jbroome> !info firestarter
[04:40] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 381 kB, installed size 1900 kB
[04:40] <frogzoo> tom_: well now try gdm start again, maybe
[04:40] <KenSentMe> Can someone explain to me what this comment on a upgrade request means? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/penguintv/+bug/52567
[04:40] <frogzoo> maxx03: did you set a proxy in synaptic?
[04:40] <dmsantam> OoberMick, what is that?
[04:40] <OoberMick> alexdbkim: assuming you're the right person.... right-click open terminal?
[04:40] <jbroome> are you running synaptic and apt at the same time?
[04:40] <ericz> so what happened with x.org, heh.. i had to sudo apt-get upgrade in a console because i kept getting an X server error with twinview?
[04:40] <maxx03> frogzoo, nope... i've always just used the default settings
[04:40] <kashual> ^
[04:40] <maxx03> frogzoo, just recently it stopped working
[04:41] <OoberMick> dmsantam: right-click open terminal
[04:41] <andax> ericz, /topic
[04:41] <dmsantam> OoberMick, if you do that on the desktop, there is no "open terminal". the question is how to add "open terminal" to that menu
[04:41] <tom_> is there a re-install everything that X needs command?!?
[04:41] <frogzoo> maxx03: low disk on /tmp ?
[04:41] <OoberMick> dmsantam: with nautilus-open-terminal?
[04:41] <ardchoille> dmsantam: sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[04:41] <mrDaniel> because under linux no powermizer is available (a tool for setting power-consumption) i want to try coolbits to set the GPU speed of my GeForce Go 7600
[04:42] <dmsantam> ahh! thx
[04:42] <OoberMick> dmsantam: yeah that
[04:42] <alexdbkim> OoberMich, Thanks, but I don't have nautilus-open-terminal. How can I make it?
[04:42] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[04:42] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, good
[04:42] <mrDaniel> but when write the line 'Coolbits "1" ', my xserver cannot start, because he don't understand the line 'coolbits'
[04:42] <alexdbkim> OoberMich, thanks!! :)
[04:42] <maxx03> frogzoo, how can i tell?
[04:42] <mrDaniel> do anyone knoe where the problem could be?
[04:42] <alexdbkim> OoberMick, thanks!! :)
[04:43] <frogzoo> maxx03: df -h    - look for 99%/100%
[04:43] <dijungal> sweeet!!! i got firestarter... had to add the community repository
[04:43] <dijungal> thanks guys
[04:43] <mrDaniel> also: when I use the line 'Option "Coolbits" "1" ', my xserver want's to start, but no new options are available
[04:43] <mrDaniel> ??
[04:43] <alexdbkim> OoberMich, do I have to restart X?
[04:43] <frogzoo> mrDaniel: coolbits won't work for X - it's a windows registry setting
[04:43] <frogzoo> afaik
[04:44] <maxx03> frogzoo, i see a 89%, but that's /dev/sda1, my windows partition... everything else is low
[04:44] <OoberMick> alexdbkim: I'm not sure... probably
[04:44] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, no
[04:44] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, killall nautilus
[04:44] <dmsantam> alexdbkim, then nautilus will restart, and it should appear
[04:44] <janbanan> I'm about to install dapper but it's just the live-cd that starts to run. I wan't to install it
[04:45] <OoberMick> alexdbkim: listen to dmsantam his words are wise
[04:45] <ost2life> okay, i just used automatix but it still didn't work
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> the live cd has an  'install' icon on the desktop
[04:45] <ost2life> the realplayer install script crashed out
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> !automatix
[04:45] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[04:45] <alexdbkim> OoberMich, wow it works :)
[04:45] <maxx03> frogzoo, got some new information.... the thing i was having problems with is not synaptic... it seems to some sort of frontend to synaptic... it appears in the menu bar saying "there are X updates available".... when i try to run synaptic from system | administration is refuses to even start....
[04:45] <alexdbkim> dmsantam, you are really good at Linux man
[04:46] <frogzoo> maxx03: run synaptic from the command line - it might give a hint
[04:46] <dijungal> question: what program can i use to connect to and run quries on an MS SQL server
[04:46] <dmsantam> hehe
[04:46] <alexdbkim> :)
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> maxx03,  theres been a bug wigh some libraries/updates that broke synaptic
[04:46] <maxx03> frogzoo, "error while loading shared libraries: libvte.so.4"
[04:47] <janbanan> Dr_Willis: that suck because i get an error with no screen found before i reach the desktop. it has to do with the ATI drivers.
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> maxx03,  thats it. :P
[04:47] <maxx03> frogzoo, sounds like it... how do it fix it
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> janbanan,  use the 'alternative' install cd.
[04:47] <frogzoo> !xorgbug
[04:47] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> maxx03,  remove and reinstall the libvte-common package
[04:47] <frogzoo> !xorgbugfix > janbanan
[04:47] <Pukawka-HiNduS> hello
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> !info libvte-common
[04:47] <ubotu> libvte-common: Terminal emulator widget for GTK+ 2.0 - common files. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.12.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 73 kB, installed size 1056 kB
[04:47] <janbanan> Dr_Willis: sweet
[04:48] <maxx03> ok Dr_Willis i'll give that a shot
[04:48] <dijungal> question: what program can i use to connect to and run quries on an MS SQL server
[04:48] <Pukawka-HiNduS> can someone tell me how to copy file from floppy to /etc/X11/ in restore mode??
[04:48] <maxx03> ouch, it sure is removing a lot of dependencies
[04:48] <maxx03> i hope this is going to be ok
[04:49] <Pukawka-HiNduS> can someone tell me how to copy file from floppy to /etc/X11/ in restore mode??
[04:49] <frogzoo> Dr_Willis: libvte4 on dapper has that file
[04:49] <dmsantam> Pukawka-HiNduS, asking twice isn't going to help :)
[04:49] <Pukawka-HiNduS> :)
[04:49] <SKossu> Question: I just tried installing ubuntu 6.06 and chose the first option to start ubuntu and install, and it booted the kernel and went trough all the phases of starting up. Though then it stopped and bitched something about connect debounce port 6 and got stuck on a black screen, am I fucking something up?
[04:49] <frogzoo> maxx03: reinstall libvte4
[04:49] <hadi> hi every body my xorg does not work after update..!
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> frogzoo,  huh? the fix has been to remove/reinsall the package for most people that have had the issue.
[04:50] <dmsantam> hadi
[04:50] <dmsantam> hadi, read the topic
[04:50] <dmsantam> hadi, you need to downgrade
[04:50] <AHillsbe> I have an x server problem, i was wondering if someone could help me?
[04:50] <frogzoo> Dr_Willis: oh, so it's known, cool
[04:50] <sparkleytone> SKossu: you using a usb keyboard?
[04:50] <hadi> THX
[04:50] <SKossu> yes sir
[04:50] <maxx03> frogzoo, yeah i did... but now i've lost heaps of things including synaptic itself
[04:50] <sparkleytone> SKossu: does it have its own hub for stuff to plug into?
[04:50] <Ash-Fox> hadi, if you're upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core, make sure that the version you will be upgrading to is 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 (take note of the last number -- 10.3 messed up). If they are not yet available, please wait for the servers/mirrors to update.
[04:50] <frogzoo> maxx03: well maybe reinstall it then
[04:51] <SKossu> yes, its the G15 keyboard
[04:51] <alexdbkim> bye
[04:51] <maxx03> frogzoo, i installed libvte-common after removing it... but the other things have not come back
[04:51] <sparkleytone> SKossu: unplug anything you have plugged into it and try again
[04:51] <Ash-Fox> You can type 'sudo apt-get install xserver-corg-xore=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version, or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-corg-xore=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[04:51] <sparkleytone> SKossu: also...preface your responses with my name please...otherwise you'll get lost in the shuffle
[04:51] <frogzoo> maxx03: dpkg -l libvte4
[04:51] <msoul> hadi: hadi wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/x/xorg-server/xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1_i386.deb
[04:51] <SKossu> sparkleytone: Nothing is plugged into the keyboard
[04:51] <Ash-Fox> You can type 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version, or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade *corrected spelling*
[04:51] <hadi> can I fix this problem now or not?
[04:51] <sparkleytone> SKossu: is it plugged into a hub or anything?
[04:52] <dmsantam> hadi, listen to Ash-Fox
[04:52] <dmsantam> hadi, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10
[04:52] <SKossu> sparkleytone: I got an extra hub that has webcam and bluetooth device connected
[04:52] <msoul> hadi: yes if you just do what I just told you to do
[04:52] <dmsantam> hadi, then restart gdm, and away you go
[04:52] <sparkleytone> SKossu: funnily enough i had that very issue yesterday using an apple keyboard after i plugged an IR receiver into one of the USB ports on it
[04:52] <maxx03> frogzoo, it says Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/unpacked/filaed-config/half-installed
[04:52] <maxx03> frogzoo, did i just ruin my install?
[04:52] <sparkleytone> SKossu: for now, disconnect all usb devices other than the keyboard.
[04:52] <hadi> msoul: I will, thx
[04:52] <msoul> sure
[04:53] <AHillsbe> how can you enable the x server?
[04:53] <frogzoo> maxx03: dunno, try 'sudo apt-get install libvte4'
[04:53] <sparkleytone> AHillsbe: define 'enable'
[04:53] <frogzoo> AHillsbe: x break for you?
[04:53] <SKossu> sparkleytone: Alright, I'll give it a shot.
[04:53] <sparkleytone> SKossu: you probably don't have to reinstall
[04:53] <pussfeller> hey when I fire up gnome baker, it doesn't show any of my devices
[04:53] <Ademan> i have one update available its xserver-xorg-core   is that the infamous broken X?
[04:53] <pussfeller> no cd-rom, no cdrw
[04:53] <AHillsbe> it wont let me run gdm it says x server is disabled - no screen error
[04:54] <SKossu> sparkleytone: It isn't installed yet, It wouldn't go into the "desktop" to install.
[04:54] <frogzoo> Ademan: most likely
[04:54] <frogzoo> !xorgbugfix > AHillsbe
[04:54] <Ademan> i can't believe they didnt take it out of the repositories or something
[04:54] <maxx03> frogzoo, ok it installed
[04:55] <frogzoo> maxx03: well now what?
[04:55] <maxx03> frogzoo, but now i'm still missing heaps of other packages
[04:55] <AHillsbe> i have had it running, it crashed after i tried to hibernate
[04:55] <frogzoo> maxx03: well put them back in I guess
[04:55] <Ademan> does AIGLX work with NVIDIA drivers? (just unaccelerated or something?)
[04:55] <maxx03> frogzoo: i have the list of packages it removed... do u think it would work if i just reinstalled each of those?
[04:55] <frogzoo> maxx03: that's should work
[04:56] <frank_b> has anyone had their computer shut down because of the problem with xorg 10.3?
[04:56] <maxx03> frogzoo, i've got unmet dependencies
[04:57] <frank_b> shut down on its own, that is
[04:57] <maxx03> frogzoo, gnome-terminal depends on gnome-terminal-data.... and it's complaining of the version of that i have installed or something
[04:57] <klm-> Is a firewall useful when using Ubuntu?
[04:57] <Ademan> mines 10.4 is that updated and safe?
[04:57] <Ademan> xserver-xorg-core
[04:58] <frank_b> klm-, of course. you need it to open some incoming ports when you want to
[04:58] <klm-> but is it needed to protect my own files from intruders?
[04:58] <frank_b> klm-, a firewall control program, that is. ubuntu already has a firewall by edfault
[04:58] <KenSentMe> Ademan: 10.4 is the fixed version
[04:58] <Ademan> yay
[04:58] <Ademan> thanks
[04:59] <Ash-Fox> frank_b, scame, You can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[04:59] <frank_b> where is a 10.4 version of xorg availabel?
[04:59] <dmsantam> frank_b, it is available now on some mirrors
[04:59] <RalleAb> hello guys! How do I make it so I can copy and remove files to my fat32 partition?
[04:59] <KenSentMe> frank_b: the mirrors are updating, so just wait until your mirror has it too
[04:59] <frank_b> dmsantam, Ash-Fox , thanks
[05:00] <thoreauputic> frank_b: or downgrade as in the /topic
[05:00] <frank_b> KenSentMe, thoreauputic , thanks
[05:00] <maxx03> frogzoo, yeah it looks pretty screwed man... damn i was hoping this install of linux would last me until i upgraded to a 64bit merom cpu
[05:01] <frank_b> has anyone has the computer shut down on it's own because of the bug with xorg 10.3?
[05:01] <frank_b> *has anyone had
[05:01] <Ash-Fox> No.
[05:01] <KenSentMe> I now get an error when i do apt-get update. connection refused to archive.ubuntu.com. I hope that's because the mirror is being updated
[05:01] <AHillsbe> frank_: i have had aproblem with xserver
[05:01] <thoreauputic> frank_b: should be OK as long as you don't restart
[05:02] <Ash-Fox> AHillsbe, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:02] <frank_b> thoreauputic, ok
[05:02] <HeathenDan> is 10.4 guaranteed to work?
[05:02] <thoreauputic> heh
[05:02] <AHillsbe> will that fix the no screen error?
[05:02] <frfx> fluxbox or icewm?
[05:03] <shadeofgrey> hey everybofy
[05:03] <shadeofgrey> what are the best tools for blogging in ubuntu?
[05:03] <Ash-Fox> AHillsbe, yes.
[05:03] <AHillsbe> ok
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> HeathenDan,  Guarentted or your $$ back!
[05:03] <jbroome> vi
[05:03] <frank_b> well, I woke up today with my computer shut down. and when I restarted it it gave me an error with xorg (I solved it already). could xorg be the reason why it shut down on its own?
[05:03] <Thunderpants> shadeofgrey, gnome-blog?
[05:03] <Ash-Fox> shadeofgrey, vi in my opinion
[05:03] <HeathenDan> lol
[05:03] <Ash-Fox> frank_b, no.
[05:03] <jadams> how can I get a key's keycode?
[05:04] <jm^> Use xev.
[05:04] <jadams> specifically, I'm trying to enable my multimedia keys in gnome
[05:04] <jadams> thanks
[05:04] <frfx> what are the pro and cons of fluxbox and icewm?
[05:04] <frank_b> Ash-Fox, ok, thanks
[05:04] <jm^> You're welcome.
[05:04] <DarkAudit> 10.3 on my list... updating list now...
[05:04] <shadeofgrey> oh cerap
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> frfx,  use them,, if ya like them... good.. if not try somthing else. :P they both use less memory.resorureces then other bigger desktops
[05:05] <shadeofgrey> vi is that breaindead text editor i could never undfwerstand
[05:05] <jm^> shadeofgrey, use vim.
[05:05] <shadeofgrey> 'woiuld somebody give me a heads up on how to use  it?
[05:05] <shadeofgrey> whats the diff between vi and vim
[05:05] <jm^> shadeofgrey, there's a web blog called mvblog that's fairly good (www.mvblog.org)
[05:05] <FunnyLookinHat> shadeofgrey, it's got a bit of a llearning curve.  you could probably google "vim tutorial"
[05:05] <jadams> jm^: I didn't see the codes being output for the keypresses with xev...
[05:05] <Ash-Fox> when I say vi, I mean vim.
[05:05] <jm^> shadeofgrey, vim = Vi IMproved
[05:06] <gdb> shadeofgrey: the difference is that no one actually uses real vi anymore
[05:06] <gdb> shadeofgrey: so the difference is moot
[05:06] <thoreauputic> shadeofgrey: or type  vimtutor  in a terminal
[05:06] <treb0r> or use emacs ;-)
[05:06] <jm^> jadams, xev needs to be in focus.
[05:06] <thoreauputic> vimtutor walks you through it
[05:06] <E[m] ess> hi, my box powered down in a thunderstorm when we had a blackout, and when i boot normally it stops after initialising X and justshows the ubuntu splash. when i boot into recovry mode and try to startx, i get the error that no devices were found/initialised. i looked at the X config and its fine, any ideas?
[05:06] <Ash-Fox> Isn't emacs it's own OS? :P
[05:06] <jadams> jm^: no, no
[05:06] <mititelu> hello, got a problem... i have AMD64 dapper drake, updated Xserver (through update sistem), and now after a restart Xserv won't start (says no screens or something)
[05:06] <jadams> it was sending codes for "l" and whatnot
[05:06] <thoreauputic> E[m] ess:  /topic
[05:06] <eyequeue> mititelu, /topic
[05:06] <gdb> Yeah, emacs would actually make a really great alternative OS... it just needs a decent text editor.
[05:07] <Ash-Fox> mititelu, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:07] <treb0r> Ash-Fox: yep, it outshines all of other editors in the same way that thw morning sun outshines the stars, or something
[05:07] <jadams> but when I hit mute, for instance, 0xa0 never showed up on the terminal
[05:07] <jadams> (though I know that's the code)
[05:07] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> Hi I got a big problem with ubuntu. I can#t get the desktop running anymore. At start up it says no screen found on my laptop. any help to get the desktop back without reinstall?
[05:07] <eyequeue> Nanaki_Yamabushi, /topic
[05:07] <treb0r> Nanaki_Yamabushi: Join the club!!
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> Nanaki_Yamabushi,  did it used to work? if so check the topic. theres a update bug.
[05:08] <thoreauputic> *sigh* this is a bad bug
[05:08] <Ash-Fox> treb0r, I've seen webbrowsers, IRC clients, instant messaging clients on emacs :P
[05:08] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> It did work 5 minutes ago
[05:08] <Ash-Fox> Nanaki_Yamabushi, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:08] <treb0r> Ash-Fox: yep, but the really cool feature is dired, the directory editor. A gui for your terminal..
[05:08] <eyequeue> Nanaki_Yamabushi, /topic, it was your reboot
[05:08] <frank_b> klm-, you still there?
[05:08] <shadeofgrey> okay guys i need a text editorwith a full gui that allows me to use a full sized squyare cursor
[05:08] <shadeofgrey> are there any?
[05:09] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> uhm my laptop just shutted down
[05:09] <klm-> frank_b: yes
[05:09] <jbroome> people have the oddest requests in here
[05:09] <shadeofgrey> i have glaucoma and am going blind.. i cant deal with the | cursor anymore
[05:09] <shadeofgrey> its very hard for me to see
[05:09] <treb0r> Nanaki_Yamabushi: go read /topic
[05:09] <blind> <_<
[05:09] <dmsantam> shadeofgrey, gvim in command mode
[05:09] <Ash-Fox> Nanaki_Yamabushi, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:09] <OoberMick> shadeofgrey: emacs does to
[05:09] <simira> how to I sftp to somewhere using a key for login?
[05:10] <frank_b> klm-, sorry, I didn't see your second message
[05:10] <eyequeue> simira, sftp host, it should prompt
[05:10] <thoreauputic> simira: you set up ssh keys
[05:10] <simira> eyequeue: for a key?
[05:10] <dmsantam> simira, you need to create a key
[05:10] <dmsantam> simira, then scp the public key up to the server
[05:10] <simira> thoreauputic: I do have a key, and a server. But the usual "Connect to network place" doesn't have a key option
[05:11] <eyequeue> simira, no, sorry.  you ssh-keygen first, then edit ~/.ssh/config for that host
[05:11] <dmsantam> simira, ssh-keygen -t dsa
[05:11] <dmsantam> simira, oh
[05:11] <simira> no, no, no
[05:11] <frank_b> klm-, I don't know much about firewalls, but from the little I know, yes, a firewall it's highly recomended to protect your ports
[05:11] <dmsantam> simira, i c :)
[05:11] <thoreauputic> simira: it shouldn't need one if your ssh is configured right
[05:11] <dakad> lo?
[05:11] <simira> I need an sftp client that has an option for giving up a key
[05:11] <hadi_> hi agine
[05:11] <frank_b> klm-, to not let someone use your ports unless you authorize them to
[05:11] <eyequeue> simira, man sftp
[05:12] <simira> thoreauputic: should it work if I put my key in .id_dsa?
[05:12] <hadi_> I fix problem successfully
[05:12] <thoreauputic> simira: can you ssh using keys to that host?
[05:12] <simira> thoreauputic: yes
[05:12] <thoreauputic> simira: if not, first you need to set up your keypairs
[05:12] <thoreauputic> Ok
[05:12] <dakad> can someone give me a hand getting my wireless card to connect to my router?
[05:12] <hadi_> do I update xorg to 10.3 or not
[05:13] <simira> thoreauputic: the keypars is in place, I only need where to give up the key to access
[05:13] <hadi_> do I update xorg to 10.3 or not
[05:13] <jturek> update to 10.4
[05:13] <eyequeue> hadi, no
[05:13] <hadi_> sure?
[05:13] <thoreauputic> simira: sorry I don't follow you - are you saying you can't sftp using paswords to that host?
[05:13] <eyequeue> hadi_, 10.3 was bad, use 10.4
[05:13] <Ash-Fox> hadi_, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:13] <thoreauputic> *passwords
[05:13] <hadi_> OK
[05:14] <steve_> Every time I do an update I get the follwing error:  Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main Packages  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[05:14] <frank_b> hadi_, 10.3 no. it has a bug. update to 10.4 instead
[05:14] <dakad> my wireless card won't connect to my router, even tho the SSID and wep-key have been entered correctly. I know the card works 'cos i connected briefly to my neighbours router. any advice?
[05:15] <steve_> It's preventing me from installing any packages.
[05:15] <simira> thoreauputic: correct
[05:15] <hadi_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:15] <hadi_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[05:15] <hadi_> why
[05:15] <thoreauputic> steve: try   sudo dpkg --configure -a  , the try again
[05:15] <eyequeue> hadi_, close the app that has the lock
[05:15] <steve_> ok
[05:15] <lassegs> hadi_: is another process using it?
[05:15] <thoreauputic> hadi_: close any install apps you have open
[05:16] <hadi_> oh yes it's updater
[05:16] <thoreauputic> hadi_: like synaptic, apt etc
[05:16] <thoreauputic> right
[05:16] <IdleOne> what is the command to see what user are logged on?
[05:16] <AHillsbe>   apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' ----was notfound
[05:16] <thoreauputic> IdleOne: who or  w
[05:16] <AHillsbe> apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' ----was not found
[05:16] <eyequeue> AHillsbe, propagation takes time, wait
[05:16] <tiede> #ubuntu-fr
[05:16] <lassegs> its actually easier to read the error output than logging in to ubuntu@freenode to get the answer :P
[05:16] <thoreauputic> AHillsbe: then it isn't on your mirror yet
[05:17] <AHillsbe> like hours or minutes
[05:17] <fuci_> What's a good player to play .mkv files?
[05:17] <steve_> Gave a bunch of dependcy errors and I still get the same error.
[05:17] <Ash-Fox> AHillsbe, ask the people who run your mirror.
[05:17] <IdleOne> thoreauputic, there is a command that will show all logged on users do you know it?
[05:17] <elvstone> hum. i'm trying to add a user to a group with "sudo usermod -G video pow", but the user is not added to the group :/
[05:17] <tiede> join #ubuntu-fr
[05:17] <eyequeue> AHillsbe, 24h if you want to be safe
[05:17] <thoreauputic> AHillsbe: depends where you are
[05:17] <AHillsbe> how do i do that?
[05:17] <Emess> didnt liek the version number for the update...
[05:17] <elvstone> e.g. grep pow /etc/group after that command gives nothing :/
[05:17] <dakad> tied: try /join #ubuntu-fr
[05:17] <thoreauputic> IdleOne: I told you :  who  or w
[05:17] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> update worked
[05:17] <AHillsbe> mirrir?
[05:17] <Ash-Fox> No, mirror.
[05:17] <eyequeue> elvstone, sudo adduser elvstone video
[05:17] <eyequeue> elvstone, sudo adduser pow video
[05:18] <AHillsbe> my mirror is different?
[05:18] <IdleOne> thoreauputic, that only shows my user. but I know there are others I want to know which and kill them
[05:18] <elvstone> eyequeue: but the login already exists, i'd like to modify it.
[05:18] <SanketMedhi> hello
[05:18] <thoreauputic> AHillsbe: it depends on you rcountry code usually
[05:18] <SanketMedhi> has anyone checked out the new Gaim ?
[05:18] <elvstone> eyequeue: i used useradd -m -s /bin/bash pow to add it btw..
[05:18] <eyequeue> elvstone, sudo adduser pow video   adds the existing pow to the group
[05:18] <AHillsbe> ok
[05:18] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> no where can I look for the new gaim
[05:18] <eyequeue> elvstone, useradd is, um, old?
[05:18] <elvstone> eyequeue: oh. okay. why doesn't usermod -G work? it usually does..
[05:18] <thoreauputic> IdleOne: erm, they are logged on how? ssh?
[05:19] <elvstone> eyequeue: it's standard isn't it?
[05:19] <IdleOne> thoreauputic, possibly
[05:19] <eyequeue> elvstone, adduser/deluser has been standard in debian for years now
[05:19] <thoreauputic> IdleOne: well, w usually shows ssh logons IIRC
[05:19] <elvstone> eyequeue: alright, sorry, coming from BSD :)
[05:19] <elvstone> eyequeue: thanks!
[05:19] <IdleOne> thoreauputic, ok thanks
[05:19] <method|> my audio is out of sync on youtube, anyone else have this prob?
[05:19] <AHillsbe> that update will fix the "fatal server error: no screens found"
[05:19] <eyequeue> elvstone, np, many similarities, and a few gotchas, heh
[05:20] <AHillsbe> ?
[05:20] <eyequeue> AHillsbe, /topic, yes
[05:20] <thoreauputic> method|: yes, flv often is a bit out of sync - are you using flash ?
[05:20] <method|> yes
[05:20] <elvstone> eyequeue: hm. it's still not added, sudo adduser pow video && grep pow /etc/group yields nothing :/
[05:21] <thoreauputic> method|: the linux flash player sucks basically - nothing much can be done as it is closed source
[05:21] <eyequeue> elvstone, okay, first off, your user has sudo permissions, right?
[05:21] <tsubasaleguedin> hello !
[05:21] <AHillsbe> how do i reboot from the command prompt
[05:21] <elvstone> eyequeue: yep. i'm using my regular login 'elvstone'.
[05:21] <eyequeue> AHillsbe, sudo reboot
[05:21] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> use sudo reboot
[05:21] <method|> thoreauputic: well that's just awesome
[05:21] <tsubasaleguedin> Can I update my ubuntu without breaking X tonight ?
[05:21] <thoreauputic> method|: if you can download the video mplayer plays flv
[05:21] <Ash-Fox> You can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:21] <elvstone> eyequeue: and it has sudo permission (i use it all the time).
[05:21] <dakad> anyone want to give me a hand with my wireless card?
[05:21] <eyequeue> elvstone, sudo vigr should work, but the other should have as well
[05:21] <thoreauputic> method|: complain to macromedia/adobe
[05:21] <opl> Hi all, I am a teacher and I look for a free ftp Programm which is available for Linux and Windows. Do you know a good program?
[05:21] <method|> mplayer can play flash?
[05:21] <method|> didnt know that
[05:21] <eyequeue> vigr (8)             - edit the password, group, shadow-password or shadow-group file.
[05:22] <thoreauputic> method|: no, it can play flv
[05:22] <mopflite> opl: do you want a program that will run on both platforms?
[05:22] <method|> ic
[05:22] <elvstone> eyequeue: alright. i'll try with vigr.
[05:22] <Ash-Fox> opl, there is one that comes with linux and windows called 'ftp'
[05:22] <eyequeue> elvstone, i don't normally recommend vi-ish things, but you're from bsd :)
[05:22] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> I also have a problem with Flash. most of the time I have no sound in it at all.
[05:22] <thoreauputic> method|: ffplay can also play flv with the right codecs
[05:22] <ketsugi> eyequeue: I must say, vi's learning curve is steep but I've gotten to enjoy using it
[05:22] <dsch04> Ok, my first Ubuntu install is go!
[05:22] <ketsugi> Now emacs, that one is still a mystery to me!
[05:23] <elvstone> eyequeue: oops, sorry. did the sudo adduser in the wrong VT the first time :)
[05:23] <eyequeue> ketsugi, yeah, and with vimtutor, the basics are not all that bad
[05:23] <opl> mopflite: yes so the kids don't have to leard difrent programs. In school we use Linux at home they use Windows
[05:23] <rob86> is it normal to have public IPs under lo0_aliasX? for some reason my host put my "extra" ips assigned to me under lo0.. lo0_alias0, lo0_alias1, etc.. these are public IPs though and not private/local
[05:23] <elvstone> eyequeue: worked fine now.
[05:23] <StephenL> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[05:23] <eyequeue> elvstone, glad to hear there was a sensible explanation :)
[05:23] <dsch04> First question: how do I configure X to support dual monitors?
[05:23] <dsch04> (laptop LCD display, and external Dell LCD panel)
[05:23] <StephenL> I get that error every time I try to try to do an apt-get update
[05:23] <thoreauputic> method|: most youtube vids are flv
[05:23] <eyequeue> !xinerama > dsch04
[05:24] <mopflite> opl: I tend to doubt that there is a cross platform ftp client - personally if I were teaching kids about computing, I would first teach them how to use command line ftp on both, and then perhaps show them some gui clients
[05:24] <opl> Ash-Fox: do you have a link?
[05:24] <dsch04> eyequeue: On FC5, there is a gnome Display app under Desktop|Administration.
[05:24] <dsch04> Is there something similar in Ubuntu?
[05:24] <eyequeue> mopflite, but ftp protocol is so not-used these days, insecure etc
[05:24] <Ash-Fox> opl, no, you can run it in cmd under windows and in the terminal on linux
[05:24] <StephenL> I tried sudo dpkg --configure -a  ... I got a bunch of dependency errors and I still get the same error.
[05:24] <phreakys> hi
[05:24] <thoreauputic> mopflite: filezilla has a windows and a linux version
[05:25] <phreakys> is there a way to dock all those seperate windows of the gimp in one big window(like photoshop)
[05:25] <phreakys> ?
[05:25] <mopflite> opl: for the linux platform, hyst type "ftp" at the command line - "man ftp" for a usage summary
[05:25] <eyequeue> mopflite, sftp perhaps, though i prefer scp
[05:25] <John[1] > Stephen are you trying to install dapper server?
[05:25] <thoreauputic> mopflite:  lftp is *way* better for cli ftp
[05:25] <opl> mopflite and Ash-Fox: I never thought about this. It is an interssting approach. I check into it.Thx for the hint
[05:26] <StephenL> John: No.  dapper desktop.
[05:26] <thoreauputic> StephenL: try  sudo apt-get -f install
[05:26] <vciaglia> hey guys, the latest "xserver-xorg" update has problem ?
[05:26] <mopflite> eyequeue: lots of web space solutions provide ftp access, but no shell access - shell access (required for sftp to work) is generally only offered with more expensive "developers pack" web hosting options
[05:26] <RuarriS> does anyone know what to do if i can choose Xgl from the sessions menu at login but Xgl won't start and i get booted back to the login screen?
[05:26] <Ash-Fox> vciaglia, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:26] <jaytee> vciaglia, it screwed up my installation
[05:26] <eyequeue> mopflite, you seem to use some strange hosting services, i'd never use one without ssh
[05:26] <StephenL> thoreauputic:  Ok.  I'll try.
[05:26] <thoreauputic> jaytee: join the ubuntu-users mailing list - that's how I found out
[05:26] <jaytee> thoreauputic, good idea
[05:26] <jaytee> :)
[05:27] <John[1] > Well I was trying that also and was getting the same errors'  I was on here last night asking question and there are so many people chatting at once that I never got a answer.
[05:27] <phreakys> hm, gimpshop any good?
[05:27] <vciaglia> Ash-Fox, and it works ?
[05:27] <erUSUL> vciaglia: Updated and fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the  system with 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'. To make sure that your mirror has the new version do 'sudo apt-get update' then 'apt-cache policy  xserver-xorg-core' and check that the candidate is 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[05:27] <mopflite> eyequeue: pretty much every isp provided basic web hosting option in the uk does not provide shell access, and never has
[05:27] <eyequeue> mopflite, to each their own of course, but "teaching" bad practices seems unwise
[05:27] <Ash-Fox> vciaglia, yes., 10.3 doesn't.
[05:27] <thoreauputic> StephenL: last ditch method is  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a ( but don't do that unless you have to)
[05:27] <jaytee> John[1] , yeah.. i suffered through a long fix session last night too
[05:27] <eyequeue> mopflite, whereas my isp provides shell even for dialup
[05:28] <eyequeue> mopflite, granted, it's an aix shell, lol
[05:28] <vciaglia> erUSUL, thank you very much. I'm going to check
[05:28] <mopflite> eyequeue: in the uk at least, 90% or so of those who have web space of any kind *do not* have shell access, so usage of an ftp client is mandatory - that does not fit my personal definition of "bad practices"
[05:28] <John[1] > Right now I'm trying to install just the desktop ver. and I'm getting stuck at the partion section to install to harddrive.
[05:28] <eyequeue> mopflite, using an insecure protocol?  i'd call that bad personally  it's like using ssh version1, imo
[05:29] <Inferus> John[1]  whats up, error messages by any chance?
[05:29] <StephenL> Working now.  Thanks.
[05:29] <eyequeue> mopflite, plaintext transmission of passwords == bad, to me
[05:29] <John[1] > It is stuck on select a disk right now with nothing else showing, no drives or anyhting.
[05:29] <AHillsbe> my system will not detect  wireless card, but the ethernet card works- ibm thinkpad 390x
[05:29] <erUSUL> vciaglia: no problem
[05:29] <Inferus> the disk part of the installer is wrecked John[1]
[05:29] <Inferus> mine wouldnt work at home
[05:29] <Mez> Seveas, ping
[05:29] <Ash-Fox> AHillsbe, lspci really doesn't detect it?
[05:30] <tom_> damn, missed a message for me, are there any logs online?
[05:30] <John[1] > Other than the desktop live cd.
[05:30] <esculapius> hu
[05:30] <Inferus> I personally recommend installing ubuntu-server and then apt-get'ing ubuntu-desktop
[05:30] <Mez> tom_ http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[05:30] <Inferus> i've not had any problems with the ubuntu-server install
[05:30] <ardchoille> !xorgbugfix
[05:30] <ubotu> The fixed xserver-xorg-core packages has been uploaded. It is now safe to upgrade the system. First make sure that your mirror have the new version, to do that please do "sudo apt-get update" than do "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core" and make sure candidate is version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4.
[05:30] <AHillsbe> hold on
[05:30] <Mez> !logs > tom_
[05:30] <AHillsbe> brb
[05:30] <esculapius> could anyone explain why k3b give this output
[05:30] <John[1] > Infeerus, I went that route also and was getting errors when I did the aft-get update.
[05:31] <esculapius> http://ninethsense.com/pastebin/index.php?p=180
[05:31] <Inferus> what error?
[05:31] <ardchoille> Oh, it's fixed? Cool. Now I can install the other machine :)
[05:31] <Inferus> apt-get update @_@
[05:31] <John[1] > The server installs with no problem, it's trying to get the desktop that is killing me.
[05:31] <Inferus> yea
[05:31] <Ash-Fox> You can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:31] <Inferus> just do
[05:32] <Inferus> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-server
[05:32] <Inferus> =]
[05:32] <orbin> ardchoille: what was the bug?
[05:32] <Inferus> sorry
[05:32] <Inferus> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:32] <eyequeue> orbin, /topic
[05:32] <esculapius> anyone
[05:32] <esculapius> http://ninethsense.com/pastebin/index.php?p=180
[05:32] <orbin> eyequeue: ah :)
[05:32] <ardchoille> orbin: the broken package kept X from running
[05:32] <SKossu> Question: Tried installing the new ubuntu on the comp, but didn't even get to the part where to choose partition. It got stuck after booting up the linux kernel and going trough the startup phase, It reported no errors or anything, simply stopped loading on a black screen. Am I screwing something up?
[05:32] <orbin> well i jsut upgraded to 10.3 ... i guess that's the broken one...
[05:33] <eyequeue> orbin, right ,go to 10.4 before allowing reboot
[05:33] <orbin> thanks for the tip
[05:33] <OoberMick> esculapius: try google, this was the first link  http://www.kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=7964
[05:34] <jaytee> at least i know how to recover
[05:34] <John[1] > Okay, I'm going to reinstall the server and try it again with the fixes they suggested.
[05:34] <alek> hi
[05:34] <graveson> i am trying to determine the format of a file ie i have an mp4 file container and need to know what version of divx this is
[05:35] <John[1] > here goes
[05:35] <eyequeue> graveson, /usr/bin/file
[05:35] <jaytee> my /lib/modules was also screwed up earlier.
[05:35] <alek> i have some PC (ubuntu) with shared folder in smbfs and my PC also with ubuntu where I want to get the acces to that shared folder. I use smbmount with option "rw", but i cant write to that folder
[05:35] <jaytee> but i had a -386 version to fall back on
[05:36] <eyequeue> alek, which fs?
[05:36] <alek> in smb.conf there is written that thsi folder should be writable
[05:36] <alek> eyequeue, shared folder is in ext3
[05:36] <ardchoille> !restricted > ardchoille
[05:36] <ProN00b> uh, i have heard the horror storry that upgrading to the new xserver-xorg-core fucks your box, is that true ?
[05:36] <jaytee> yay!  it's working again at 10.4
[05:36] <Ash-Fox> ProN00b, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:36] <eyequeue> alek, ext3 writes are safe, but that smb seems for ms ppl
[05:37] <ardchoille> ProN00b: it's been fixed, so it's safe now
[05:37] <eyequeue> alek, hence i asked
[05:37] <YeTr2> whats wrong with smb?
[05:37] <AHillsbe> 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys, A Division of Cisco Systems WMP11v4 802.11b PCI card
[05:37] <AHillsbe> yes it does
[05:37] <eyequeue> YeTr2, nix ppl tend to use nfs, which is native in the kernel
[05:37] <Ash-Fox> AHillsbe, it is detected, don't lie.
[05:37] <ProN00b> Ash-Fox, so if i get a E: Version 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 for xserver-xorg-core was not found my mirror isn't up to date ?
[05:38] <YeTr2> eyequeue: I find smb easier
[05:38] <alek> eyequeue, what means ms ppl?
[05:38] <Goshawk> ProN00b: apt-get update
[05:38] <Ash-Fox> ProN00b, 10.3 is the 'bad' version.
[05:38] <eyequeue> alek, people who use microsoft products
[05:38] <wweasel> Hey. I was prompted by Update Manager to update something about xserver yesterday, and today when I restart it tells me "Failed to start the X server"
[05:38] <nikin> good morning
[05:38] <wweasel> And I think you're talking about this with ProN00b :P
[05:38] <ProN00b> Goshawk, did that
[05:38] <jikanter> wweasel, me too
[05:38] <eyequeue> YeTr2, i've never seen a reason, i always used nfs
[05:38] <jikanter> it happened to me today
[05:39] <alek> eyequeue, xD
[05:39] <phreakys> hi
[05:39] <yin_yang2k> What a great channel. I got help without asking anything, just rebooted my kubuntu and X is working :D
[05:39] <wweasel> jikanter: what did you do?
[05:39] <ProN00b> Ash-Fox, uhm, could you gimme your mirror url seems mine isn't up to date?
[05:39] <basvg> hi all... after today's update (Dapper) the screenlock doesn't seem to work anymore (`lock screen' button) ,... does anyone know how to fix that?
[05:39] <phreakys> anyone knows where to get the gimpshop ubuntu version?
[05:39] <eyequeue> YeTr2, to me it seemed simple enough, reading howtos, back then
[05:39] <wweasel> jikanter: to fix it that is.
[05:39] <Ash-Fox> ProN00b, mine's only accessible on my lan, sorry.
[05:39] <jikanter> I haven't fixed it yet
[05:39] <ProN00b> ardchoille, damn you i almost updated !
[05:39] <fuci_> What codecs do I need to install to run .mkv files with VLC?
[05:39] <eyequeue> ProN00b, propagation takes time, be patient
[05:39] <Gibbster> hi guys. Do you know what package I should use to get bonobo+python?
[05:40] <AHillsbe> my wireless card is detected, 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys, A Division of Cisco Systems WMP11v4 802.11b PCI card----  how do i configure it?
[05:40] <ardchoille> ProN00b: Sorry about that.
[05:40] <JetDog> hey
[05:40] <nikin> AHillsbe: ther is a network config utility in ubuntu
[05:40] <JetDog> need some nfo
[05:40] <Gibbster> is it gnome-orbit?
[05:40] <ProN00b> ardchoille, can you give me your update mirror url ?
[05:40] <AHillsbe> is it the same as xubuntu
[05:41] <YeTr2> AHillsbe: is it listed in 'iwconfig' ?
[05:41] <jturek> exit
[05:41] <ardchoille> ProN00b: I only use the repos that shipped with Ubuntu, I never add anything else.
[05:41] <JetDog> I'm looking for a good stron distro that can work IN vmware and OUTSIDE of vmware from bios, both of these can be accomplished form the SAME installation.  Mandrake cant do it, redhat LOVES to wine, suse I dunno WTF is going on there... heh, can ubuntu handle this?
[05:41] <ProN00b> ardchoille, still, i think it selects a mirror when you install it, can you give me yours ?
[05:41] <alek> i mounted samba shared foler with "rw" option but it has chmod 755 so I cant write in it. how to fix it?
[05:41] <kads> I cannot see my windows borders with xgl compiz
[05:42] <ProN00b> ardchoille, its just one line out of your sources.list
[05:42] <Ash-Fox> JetDog, in my expirence, they can all handle it just fine.
[05:42] <nikin> alek: there is a defoult chmod setting in the smb.conf
[05:42] <JetDog> wow alright.  Im for suse then.  It look pretty :)
[05:42] <ardchoille> ProN00b: hold on..
[05:42] <wweasel> Guys, me and jikanter here are having the same problem after updating our xservers yesterday. A blue screen with error messages. We can't be the only ones. Help?
[05:42] <JetDog> thx ash.  I'll give it another shot
[05:42] <AHillsbe> lo        no wireless extensions.
[05:42] <AHillsbe> irda0     no wireless extensions.
[05:42] <AHillsbe> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[05:43] <ardchoille> ProN00b: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main multiverse restricted universe
[05:43] <nikin> Ahill: the you are lacking the driver i think
[05:43] <Goshawk> ProN00b: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[05:43] <Goshawk> ProN00b: try that
[05:43] <AHillsbe> eth0 is not listed
[05:43] <Ash-Fox> You can type 'sudo apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade.
[05:44] <SKossu> Screen goes black after going trough the phase of loading into ubuntu so that I can install, Anyone know what is wrong?
[05:44] <frogzoo> !xorgbug
[05:44] <ubotu> If X is broken after a recent update you can upgrade (i386 - see '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix') or downgrade ('/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-amd64' or '/msg ubotu xorgbugfix-ppc')
[05:44] <IdleOne> SKossu, bad CD
[05:44] <ProN00b> Goshawk, i did, my mirror doesn't have that version yet
[05:44] <kads> I cannot see my windows borders with xgl compiz like th x and minimize buttons
[05:44] <SKossu> Idelone: Tested the CD, ubuntu said it was fine
[05:44] <eyequeue> ardchoille, it would be dapper-updates, not dapper though
[05:44] <AHillsbe> where can i get a driver?
[05:44] <Ash-Fox> ProN00b, then read my instructions to downgrade.
[05:45] <dojo> hey whats the diffrence between
[05:45] <dojo> ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[05:45] <dojo> and
[05:45] <Goshawk> ProN00b: "add deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse" to your sources.list
[05:45] <dojo> ubuntu-6.06.1-i386.iso
[05:45] <SKossu> IdleOne: im using double screens, can that be a problem?
[05:45] <ardchoille> eyequeue: ahh, good catch
[05:45] <Goshawk> s/"add/add"
[05:45] <Ash-Fox> alternate is a text based install, usually used for servers, you want the last iso you posted.
[05:45] <ardchoille> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main multiverse restricted universe
[05:45] <sharperguy> !alternate > dojo
[05:46] <GNAM> best solution is dvd
[05:46] <IdleOne> SKossu, could be but I wouldnt know
[05:46] <dojo> i see aternative then because the ifrst time i downloaded the other one
[05:46] <dojo> is it new?
[05:46] <Goshawk> ProN00b: also this one: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[05:46] <ProN00b> Goshawk, good idea, but i just changed all ocurrences of au.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com in my sources list
[05:47] <zerby> can someone tell me what the name of the livecd is, the isoname
[05:47] <AHillsbe> how can i get a driver to run 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys, A Division of Cisco Systems WMP11v4 802.11b PCI card
[05:47] <fredl> Hmm, I had the X problem... just did an apt-get dist-upgrade and got another xserver-xorg *ponder*
[05:47] <jbroome> /topic
[05:47] <kads> I cannot see my windows borders with xgl compiz like th x and minimize buttons
[05:47] <ali1234> so, the clock on my laptop died, and resets to 1978 on every reboot. will this affect the dapper install i'm currently running? i see warnings on the log...
[05:47] <Ash-Fox> fredl, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:47] <fredl> yeah I saw the topic jbroome
[05:47] <Goshawk> ProN00b: perfect, now do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[05:47] <lupine> topic
[05:48] <fredl> that's why I dist-upgraded, apparently a new package is already there.
[05:48] <ProN00b> Goshawk, yeah, i know that ~_^, i just needed a better mirror
[05:48] <dojo> is it possiable to get ubuntu to run i text-mode
[05:48] <AHillsbe> i have ndiswrapper already
[05:48] <Flannel> dojo: sure, what you looking to do?
[05:48] <josh__> what will this command do if run as root : locate apache2|rm *
[05:48] <josh__> remove all the apache2 files found?
[05:48] <dojo> yeah i just want to experiament
[05:48] <josh__> or remove all files on the system?
[05:49] <Flannel> dojo: You want to install in textmode? or not have a GUI installed?
[05:49] <John[1] > Now the install is haninging on my dapper server install.
[05:49] <dojo> no
[05:49] <dojo> i want to install in gui
[05:49] <josh__> hello?
[05:49] <ProN00b> Ash-Fox, don't tell them to wait >.> tell them to get a better mirror
[05:49] <dojo> i want a gui installed so in text mode i can type GNOME and it will come up
[05:49] <dojo> but i wont it to start up in text mode
[05:49] <Goshawk> josh__: locate will show any file that as the "pattern" in his name, rm removes them
[05:49] <orbin> josh__: all files in dir
[05:49] <AHillsbe> is anyone familiar with xubuntu?
[05:49] <orbin> ...i think
[05:50] <ali1234> dojo: remove xdm/kdm/gdm from the default runlevel
[05:50] <neels> hi, you guys talking about the crashing X server after the last update?
[05:50] <Goshawk> josh__: i'm not sure about the *
[05:50] <josh__> so if i do locate apache2|rm * it will remove all the apache2 files/folders it finds?
[05:50] <Flannel> dojo: well, you don't need to install via the gui for that, but yeah, you'll need to install, and then once its installed, you'll just... yeah, what ali1234 said
[05:50] <Goshawk> maybe orbin is right
[05:50] <Goshawk> :D
[05:50] <Ash-Fox> ProN00b, get a better mirror
[05:50] <Ivanowitch> AHillsbe, a bit... :S.. why?
[05:50] <John[1] > Well it made it to the partition screen and now I'm at a blue screen.
[05:51] <Ash-Fox> (note that archive.ubuntu.com is not exactly a mirror)
[05:51] <Goshawk> josh__: i don't know if you have to put that * or not
[05:51] <orbin> josh__: well i don't think you can pipe stdout to rm....
[05:51] <dojo> so if i do what brother ali said i can boot up in text mode
[05:51] <dfgas> how do i get xmms to load with mp3s when i click on them instead of the default program?
[05:51] <ProN00b> Ash-Fox, i know, its the main thin
[05:51] <dojo> and type gnome when i log in
[05:51] <rc55> Odd question, but why does the ubuntu installer run a bittorrent tracker?
[05:51] <skipf> I updated last night. xorg core installed and x does not find any device wehn it tries to start.
[05:51] <orbin> dfgas: right-click on an mp3 file in nautilus and alter the open with properties
[05:51] <ali1234> dojo: not sure what you would type to start gnome... with kde it's start-kde
[05:51] <Ash-Fox> skipf, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade.
[05:51] <Goshawk> josh__: "locate apache2 | rm" has more sense to me (
[05:51] <ProN00b> rc55, to distribute ubuntu even better ^^
[05:52] <AHillsbe> the networking utility in xubuntu will not detect my lynksys 802b pc card i have ndiswrapper do i need a different driver?
[05:52] <skipf> > I updated last night. xorg core installed and x does not find any device
[05:52] <skipf> +wehn it tries to start.
 dfgas: right-click on an mp3 file in nautilus and alter the open with
[05:52] <skipf> +properties
 dojo: not sure what you would type to start gnome... with kde it's
[05:52] <skipf> +start-kde
[05:52] <dojo> ok thx ali
[05:52] <skipf> *** Signoff: zerby ("Ik ga weg")
 skipf, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install
[05:52] <skipf> +xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version
[05:52] <skipf> +(provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install
[05:52] <skipf> +xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade.
 josh__: "locate apache2 | rm" has more sense to me (
 rc55, to distribute ubuntu even better ^^
[05:52] <ProN00b> nah, joking, rc55 dunno why, i think it would only run one if there was one installed
[05:52] <skipf> thank you!
[05:52] <orbin> skipf: don't paste in here
[05:52] <kads> I cannot see my windows borders with xgl compiz like th x and minimize buttons
[05:52] <ProN00b> skipf ?
[05:53] <typhoid> hi!  i made a major disaster..  ubuntu(dapper) -- i got a notification that there was an update to xserver.. i updated and now it can't find tty7, and won't run xwindows!  i don't know what to do to get xwindows running again!  can any of you help me?
[05:53] <ProN00b> typhoid, update again
[05:53] <fdoving> typhoid: make another upgrade, it's fixed.
[05:53] <skipf> hello ProN00b
[05:53] <rc55> I noticed as I was restarting, it closed down a tracker
[05:53] <Goshawk> typhoid: do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[05:53] <typhoid> fdoving, Goshawk -- thank you!
[05:53] <dojo> starnge is ubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso surpost to be 25MB
[05:53] <ircleuser> I wonder how many people have been having the X graphics problem?
[05:53] <Ash-Fox> typhoid, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[05:54] <ProN00b> rc55, i am getting that too, its only for the case if you had one running
[05:54] <Goshawk> dojo: no
[05:54] <dojo> kk]
[05:54] <Goshawk> dojo: it's about 700mb
[05:54] <fuci_> How in the world can I choose subtitles for my  .mkv ending anime-movies? Thank you ^__^
[05:54] <dojo> ill re download it
[05:54] <dojo> in my downl0oad manager
[05:54] <linux__alien> i am unable to play mpg files in Movie Player. Whats the package that i need to install
[05:54] <fdoving> Ash-Fox: that's the old fix, the new fix is to update again.
[05:54] <AHillsbe> can anyone help me with xubuntu wireless
[05:55] <lcdd> fuci_: mplayer has the -slang and -sid options
[05:55] <warlock> if i make a bash script, was the command ot make it executeable "chmod +x mybash.sh" ?
[05:55] <POVaddct> AHillsbe: i think you need the (ugly) wlan-ng driver for that card
[05:55] <Ash-Fox> fdoving, I gave two ways to fix it, either update or downgrade, what's wrong with what I said?
[05:55] <POVaddct> AHillsbe: what is the pci id of that card?
[05:55] <fredl> Hmm, I was too eager to try and fix my Xwindows problem I think... now my server is running but it's not using DRI since it for some reason can't load kernel module fglrx
[05:55] <dojo> i think theres a channel called #xubuntu maybe they know
[05:55] <Ivanowitch> AHillsbe, you can try the wext driver... it is a generic driver...
[05:55] <orbin> !restricted > linux__alien
[05:55] <AHillsbe> how do i get that?
[05:55] <orbin> linux__alien: ubotu sent you a pm
[05:55] <POVaddct> AHillsbe: lspci -n
[05:55] <Goshawk> linux__alien: look gor gstreamer0.10 packages
[05:55] <fuci_> lcdd: so I cd to my folder (where the movie is) and open it with mplayer "filename" -slang ?
[05:56] <fredl> although I do have the linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` installed....
[05:56] <bugnthecode> I installed kubuntu-desktop a few weeks ago so I could try kde. Now I want to remove all of kde from my system and I have. My only problem is that the bootup screen still says kubuntu. Though the shutdown screen says ubuntu. How can I change the bootup screen to say ubuntu like it did when freshly installed?
[05:56] <fdoving> Ash-Fox: downgrading will leave the user exposed to a security vuln.
[05:56] <Goshawk> !restricted > Goshawk
[05:56] <AHillsbe> 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys, A Division of Cisco Systems WMP11v4 802.11b PCI card
[05:56] <lcdd> fuci_: 'mplayer -slang en,eng filename' will probably work. if it's english you want
[05:56] <Ash-Fox> fdoving, having a non-working system is worse than vulnerable for most desktop users.
[05:56] <lcdd> fuci_: just running 'mplayer filename' will tell what kind of subtitle tracks there are
[05:56] <POVaddct> AHillsbe: lspci -n   <-- do not forget the -n
[05:56] <dojo> is edgy a new ubuntu?
[05:56] <fdoving> Ash-Fox: that's why we tell users to -update- again.
[05:56] <dojo> version
[05:56] <orbin> fredl: how'd you install the fglrx driver?
[05:56] <AHillsbe> brb
[05:57] <fuci_> lcdd: ok
[05:57] <eyequeue> !edgy
[05:57] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule
[05:57] <Ash-Fox> fdoving, which I do too, the problem?
[05:57] <dojo> so cuold i download that know
[05:57] <dojo> kk
[05:57] <dojo> i see
[05:57] <eyequeue> fdoving, Ash-Fox, actually, 10.4 LEAVES the security vuln in place :(
[05:58] <AHillsbe> 0000:00:00.0 0600: 8086:7190 (rev 03)
[05:58] <AHillsbe> 0000:00:01.0 0604: 8086:7191 (rev 03)
[05:58] <AHillsbe> 0000:00:02.0 0680: 8086:7110 (rev 02)
[05:58] <AHillsbe> 0000:00:02.1 0101: 8086:7111 (rev 01)
[05:58] <AHillsbe> 0000:00:02.2 0c03: 8086:7112 (rev 01)
[05:58] <AHillsbe> 0000:00:02.3 0680: 8086:7113 (rev 03)
[05:58] <Ash-Fox> eyequeue, haha, that sucks
[05:58] <AHillsbe> 0000:00:03.0 0607: 104c:ac1f
[05:58] <AHillsbe> 0000:00:03.1 0607: 104c:ac1f
[05:58] <Goshawk> bugnthecode: it seems that the initramfs image is not updated.. do you have ubuntu-desktop in your system?
[05:58] <AHillsbe> 0000:00:06.0 0780: 11c1:0449 (rev 01)
[05:58] <willvdl> anyone got tips on getting sound to work? [snd_hda_intel loaded]
[05:58] <AHillsbe> 0000:00:07.0 0401: 125d:1969 (rev 02)
[05:58] <AHillsbe> 0000:01:00.0 0300: 10c8:0005 (rev 20)
[05:58] <AHillsbe> 0000:02:00.0 0200: 17fe:2120
[05:58] <fdoving> !ops
[05:58] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[05:58] <wweasel> !paste
[05:58] <Ash-Fox> Could someone please kick AHillsbe
[05:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:58] <fuci_> lcdd: What codecs do I need for MPlayer to play .mkv files? I can play it with totem tho.
[05:58] <davorb> hey guys. can you tell me one application that i can use to show a popup and get a password from the user, from the shell?
[05:58] <eyequeue> !pastebin > AHillsbe
[05:58] <nalioth> AHillsbe: please don't paste in here
[05:58] <bugnthecode> Goshawk yep, that was how I got my gnome back apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:58] <fdoving> Ash-Fox: eyequeue haha, ok, then i'm sorry for bothering you :)
[05:58] <eyequeue> fdoving, heh, you got me thinking
[05:59] <Goshawk> bugnthecode: do this: sudo update-initramfs -u
[05:59] <POVaddct> AHillsbe: the line starting with 0000:02:00.0 0200: would have been enough
[05:59] <Goshawk> usplash uses initramfs, maybe it has the old kubuntu image
[05:59] <StephenL> what are the proper repositories to use for compiz?
[05:59] <zowey> can anybody past me default groups that ubuntu gives to regular user?
[05:59] <josh__> nalioth: u should know the answerto this, what will "locate apache2|rm *" do?
[05:59] <orbin> davorb: simple gksudo gedit should do it i think
[05:59] <Goshawk> bugnthecode: usplash uses initramfs, maybe it has the old kubuntu image
[05:59] <StephenL> When I try to install I keep getting an error that gset-compiz isn't available.
[05:59] <AHillsbe> sorry
[05:59] <nalioth> josh__: probably nothing
[05:59] <Flannel> StephenL: #ubuntu-xgl
[05:59] <StephenL> thanks
[06:00] <davorb> orbin: no, i want my shellscript to get a password. i dont want to get root for the app.
[06:00] <bugnthecode> Goshawk: so that just updates the initram to the correct image?
[06:00] <Goshawk> bugnthecode: probably
[06:00] <josh__> ....how do i delete all the apache2 files that were left on the computer are i did a apt-get remove apache2
[06:00] <josh__> ?
[06:00] <davorb> orbin: it just needs to be some popup that allows me to enter information, in X
[06:00] <bugnthecode> Goshawk: thanks for your help, I'll give it a reboot!
[06:00] <Flannel> josh__: do apt-get remove apache2 --purge
[06:00] <POVaddct> AHillsbe: fuck that card. i won't run: http://www.leenooks.com/Linksys+WMP11+(rev.+4)+(InProcomm+IPN2120)
[06:00] <josh__> well i suppose i could just freenx to my comp and use the synaptic...
[06:01] <josh__> ok lemme try that
[06:01] <magus_x> is there any front-end for the command to mount isos?
[06:01] <Flannel> josh__: er, apt-get --purge remove apache2 even
[06:01] <nikin> is there a lightweight desktop package for servers like ubuntu-desktop, or kubuntu-desktop, but lighter
[06:01] <trappist> josh__: apt-get remove --purge
[06:01] <orbin> davorb: ah, ok...out of my knowledge sorry.
[06:01] <POVaddct> AHillsbe: maybe it runs with ndiswrapper, but i don't know for sure
[06:01] <josh__> nope
[06:01] <OoberMick> josh__: for --purge to work you need to reinstall
[06:01] <Flannel> nikin: xubuntu would be the one, there are a few other WMs for you to try in universe though
[06:01] <josh__> it says its not installed
[06:01] <AHillsbe> i have ndiswrapper installed
[06:01] <Goshawk> josh__: apt-get --purge remvoe apache2
[06:01] <ali1234> nikin: xubuntu
[06:01] <josh__> well i did a apt-get remove apache2;apt-get clean apache2
[06:02] <Goshawk> josh__: --purge remove
[06:02] <josh__> but it left alot of docs and icons
[06:02] <POVaddct> AHillsbe: for using ndiswrapper you also need windows drivers for that card
[06:02] <POVaddct> AHillsbe: ndiswrapper is a driver-loader
[06:02] <Goshawk> josh__: apt-get clean cleans the cache
[06:02] <kads> i need help with xgl and compiz
[06:02] <nikin> Flannel: like JWM or ION? .... so first i install the xubuntu-desktop then install an other window managger
[06:02] <nikin> ok
[06:02] <josh__> screw it ill just go delete the /usr/share/apache2 folder...
[06:02] <orbin> magus_x: don't think so
[06:02] <OoberMick> josh__: apt-get install apache2 && apt-get --purge remove apache2
[06:03] <magus_x> orbin, : please give-me the command at least, i forgot
[06:03] <linux__alien> I ve installed 64 Bit version of Ubuntu but for Java and Flash plugins what do i do
[06:04] <SanketMedhi> linux__alien: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:04] <Flannel> nikin: no, you can install ubuntu without a WM to begin with, you'd have to check the repositories to find out exactly what's available.  but yeah, stuff like that
[06:04] <josh__> crap! thats where the file was!?!
[06:04] <josh__> dang it
[06:04] <kads> i need help with xgl and compiz
[06:04] <kads> I cannot see my windows borders with xgl compiz like th x and minimize buttons
[06:04] <Goshawk> kads: #ubuntu-xgl
[06:04] <AHillsbe> thanks for the link
[06:04] <JDahl> how do I enable my wireless netcard from a console?  iwconfig shows the correct device, connected to correct router. But it hasn't been assigned an IP address yet
[06:05] <josh__> apache2ctl is in /usr/sbin....for future reference everyone.... :(
[06:05] <ircleuser> Are there any other updates for Ubuntu besides those shown in the Update Manager?
[06:05] <nikin> JDahl: man iwconfig
[06:05] <richiefrich> ircleuser sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get distro-update
[06:05] <ali1234> JDahl: sudo dhclient wlan0
[06:06] <ircleuser> Richiefric: Thanks.
[06:06] <richiefrich> np
[06:06] <Flannel> ircleuser: nope, that should be all of them
[06:06] <HeathenDan> how do i stop nautilus from opening a new window when i insert a cd?
[06:06] <magus_x> what is the command to mount iso?
[06:06] <JDahl> ali1234: you're a lifesafer! thanks
[06:06] <Chousuke> mount -o loop iso.image /mount/path
[06:06] <ali1234> HeathenDan: system->preferences->removable drives and media
[06:06] <ircleuser> Richiefric: What do those commands give you that the update manager doesn't?
[06:07] <willvdl> got intel 945 chipset on laptop, but no sound. any clues?
[06:07] <Chousuke> You may have to specify a filesystem too
[06:07] <richiefrich> magus_x  mount -t iso9660 -o loop  foo.iso  /mnt/iso
[06:07] <Phoul> hey uhh when might x be stable to update
[06:07] <Phoul> lol
[06:07] <ali1234> HeathenDan: uncheck "browse removable media when inserted"
[06:07] <Goshawk> ircleuser: they are the same, but from command line...
[06:07] <HeathenDan> ok
[06:07] <Flannel> Phoul: fix is in most repositories now
[06:07] <ircleuser> Goshawk: Oh. I see.
[06:08] <Phoul> k i will wait till tomorrow just for safety
[06:08] <Ash-Fox> Phoul, when you see 10.4 in your repository.
[06:08] <Phoul> Ash-Fox, how do you check the version?
[06:09] <Ash-Fox> I just click details in 'adept' on the package.
[06:09] <Stevko> do new versions of software get to repository (e.g.: VLC 0.8.5, OpenOffice 2.0.3)?
[06:09] <Ash-Fox> you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to it if you want (provided your mirror has it).
[06:10] <Goshawk> Phoul: apt-cache show
[06:10] <Goshawk> Phoul: add package-name
[06:10] <Phoul> Version: 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.3
[06:11] <Goshawk> Phoul: it's the bugged version
[06:11] <UncleOp22> On a lighter note: would someone have a pointer to a howto or cookbook for "upgrading" to Ubuntu from RH9?  The wiki and help I've seen so far simply point out the differences between apt and rpm, but don't suggest how best to keep custom settings.  (MigrationAssistance on the wiki is promising, but this is a linux->linux migration...)  I'm downloading the Desktop CD ISO right now...
[06:11] <Phoul> k i will wiat then :p
[06:11] <magus_x> what is the command to mount iso?
[06:12] <ali1234> UncleOp22: just back up /home
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> UncleOp22,  backup your /home is about all you can do.  and /etc/ i guess.. but then ya got to  compare the configs for differances.. since there may be differetn versions, and even different locations for the different programs/configs
[06:12] <ali1234> UncleOp22: and maybe some stuff from /etc if you really need to
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> Ive had some bad issues with gnome/kde when keeping /home
[06:13] <magus_x> Dr_Willis, : like?
[06:13] <Goshawk> magus_x: mount -o loop /path/file.iso /mnt/mountpoint/
[06:13] <pvaras>  i can donwnload u lite
[06:13] <magus_x> thanks, i will write it
[06:14] <UncleOp22> s'ok - that's what I figured would be the case (/home and /etc).  My KDE is as old as the hills, too.
[06:14] <pvaras> hello
[06:14] <Goshawk> magus_x: change /mnt/mountpoint with whatever you want (also a dir under your $HOME)
[06:14] <pvaras> algun hispamo
[06:14] <ketsugi> How do I specify a non-default gcc version when using ./configure?
[06:14] <ketsugi> what's the proper syntax?
[06:14] <Goshawk> pvaras: hello
[06:14] <pvaras> hello
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> magus_x,  like KDE and GNOME not starting due to their configs being messed up.
[06:15] <ali1234> ketsugi: CC=gcc-3.4 ./configure
[06:15] <ircleuser> x
[06:15] <Goshawk> ketsugi: the argument should be CC=gcc-version, but let me investigate
[06:15] <ali1234> ketsugi: unless you are cross compiling, that's a whole different story
[06:15] <ketsugi> without quotation marks?
[06:15] <Goshawk> ketsugi: ah follow ali1234
[06:15] <ali1234> ketsugi: yes, without
[06:15] <utab> help needed for mounting network drives
[06:15] <UncleOp22> thanks Dr_Willis and ali1234
[06:16] <PPower> Hi all, I am using vncserver4, but sudo doesnt seem to work. I enter the password, but nothing happens
[06:16] <Goshawk> PPower: xterm under vncserver4?
[06:16] <PPower> yes, with twm
[06:16] <PPower> su -c no worky too
[06:16] <orbin> ketsugi: are you installing something?
[06:16] <ali1234> utab: what kind of network drives? smb (windows)?
[06:17] <utab> ali1234: smb
[06:17] <PPower> Goshawk: Hmm, dont I remember you, (i am sometimes known as lsproc)
[06:17] <Goshawk> PPower: yep i rememver that name
[06:17] <ketsugi> orbin: trying to compile KMobileTools
[06:17] <PPower> Hey!
[06:17] <Goshawk> PPower: this should be not a vnc issue
[06:17] <utab> ali1234: I have tried http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_network_folders_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read but no use
[06:17] <PPower> ok
[06:18] <dsch04> eyequeue: Thanks.
[06:18] <Goshawk> PPower: because vnc just sends images of the screen
[06:18] <PPower> Goshawk: It works when not in VNC though
[06:18] <bj_> Hello, I installed a new mobo / cpu and am having some stability problems. Most stuff seems OK, but coming back from a screensaver will sometimes lock up the box. Is there a command I should run to reset ubuntu for the new board
[06:18] <PPower> one mo actually
[06:18] <ali1234> utab: get an error message?
[06:18] <utab> ali1234: yes
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> PPower,  enter the password where/how in vnc?
[06:18] <orbin> ketsugi: something wrong w/ the repos version?
[06:18] <utab> ali1234: put them in the pastebin
[06:19] <PPower> PPower: su -c mount command, in xterm
[06:19] <PPower> why did I message myself?
[06:19] <Goshawk> PPower: you said that if you log in (not in vnc) you can do it, isn't it?
[06:19] <crparr> Hi! I'm using kubuntu 6.06 on an amd64 machine. This morning Adept had one update for me. xorg. I did the upgrade. This evening I started my PC and XOrg did not Start. The first error were GL errors.
[06:19] <dapet> Anyone know some good java doc's?
[06:20] <orbin> bj_: possible video issue?  are you using the same video card?
[06:20] <utab> crparr : take a look at unbuntuforums.org
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> we need to keep track of everyone asking that. :P and how many times we say 'its answered in the topic' :)
[06:20] <Goshawk> crparr:  do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[06:20] <ProN00b> crparr, update&&upgrade again
[06:20] <synic> dapet: for what?
[06:20] <PPower> PPower: In normal usage, it works fine. In VNC it doesnt. It might be the user account
[06:20] <Ash-Fox> crparr, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[06:20] <orbin> dapet: perhaps you should ask in the java channel
[06:20] <bj_> orbin: yeah same vid card, ram , and psu
[06:20] <ketsugi> orbin: yeah, I'm compiling the svn version and it's crashing for an unknown reason. the kmobiletools dev asked me to try gcc 3.4
[06:20] <crparr> After commrnting out the lines in my xorg conf, I discovered another error. Xorg does not detect my graphics card. It is a Nvidia GeForce 6600 GT from Leadtek.
[06:20] <utab> ali1234: have you done that before
 what are there name, and how do join them?
[06:20] <crparr> What do I have to do to make it work?
[06:21] <ProN00b> crparr, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[06:21] <Ash-Fox> crparr, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[06:21] <fredl> anybody know how this may happen: [drm]  failed to load kernel module "fglrx" (I have linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` installed, but I have had the 8.27 driver installed using the procedure on the ATI Wiki, so maybe something was left behind when I went back to 8.25 ?)
[06:21] <ali1234> utab: i'm confused. where's your paste? have i done what before?
[06:21] <PPower> Goshawk: Ah, user account is the prob. ill check the sudoers file
[06:21] <jorgg> is it possible to change spell check language in gaim?
[06:21] <utab> ali1234: have you mounted network drives before
[06:21] <orbin> dapet: /j #java should work
[06:21] <Goshawk> PPower: if the user is the problem it should not work even if you are logged without vnc
[06:21] <ali1234> utab: yeah loads of times
[06:22] <ali1234> utab: you need a few none-obvious packages to make it work...
[06:22] <dapet>  /j #java
[06:22] <utab> ali1234 : I have not pasted but will paste shortly
[06:22] <PPower> Goshawk: Yeah, ill edit the sudoers
[06:22] <fredl> is there a way to verify a .deb to see if the original contents are still installed?
 where do I write it?
[06:22] <jorgg> how can i check if my system support UTF8?
[06:22] <ircleuser> What does the Synaptic Package Manager do?
[06:22] <orbin> dapet: in a channel/server window
[06:22] <Goshawk> PPower: now i remember, you posted many times on nanofreesoft, isn't it?
[06:23] <fredl> ircleuser - it manages your packages.
[06:23] <orbin> !synaptic > ircleuser
[06:23] <ProN00b> i wonder who screwed that thing with the xserver up, and why it didn't get detected
[06:23] <Goshawk> PPower: and lsproc was your name
[06:23] <PPower> Yes, i built upower for you
[06:23] <crparr> thanks
[06:23] <TokenBad> I heard bad things abou the new xserver-org-core...that it is messing things up...should I update?
[06:23] <Goshawk> PPower: yes :d
[06:23] <Goshawk> :D
[06:23] <dapet> orbin> it is not the right name
[06:23] <Ash-Fox> ProN00b, Fabio M. Di Nitto
[06:23] <jorgg> is there other callenders than evolution hsupporting the clock in X?
[06:24] <ProN00b> lol, Ash-Fox ^^
[06:24] <lamego> TokenBad, you should not
[06:24] <Goshawk> TokenBad: now the bugged version is fixed, install the ubuntu10.4 version
[06:24] <dapet> What are the java channel named?
[06:24] <utab> ali1234: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21409
[06:24] <Ash-Fox> ##java
[06:24] <PPower> w000t! ITS FIXED!
[06:24] <TokenBad> Goshawk, how do I tell which one is right?
[06:24] <utab> ali1234: there are the errors and fstab
[06:24] <ProN00b> TokenBad, to make sure you get the right version you can do apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[06:24] <Goshawk> TokenBad:  do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[06:24] <crparr> thanks
[06:25] <hadi> how can I change to text screen
[06:25] <hadi> ?
[06:25] <lamego> Goshawk, you you need to specify the version, isn't the last version installed automatically ?
[06:25] <fredl> hadi - ctrl-alt-F1
[06:25] <hadi> thx
[06:25] <utab> CRTL+ALT+F1
[06:25] <anett6454> ez itt mire j?
[06:25] <Goshawk> lamego: sure, but the lastest version could be the bugged in you repository
[06:25] <ProN00b> lamego, actually the newest version (that version) is installed automatically, but sometimes patch mirrors aren't up to date
[06:26] <fredl> I think Ubuntu 6 is kinda stressing the support channel :P
[06:26] <Goshawk> lamego: in that way, you force the lastest fixed one
[06:26] <PPower> Bye! Thanks for your help all!
[06:26] <ProN00b> Goshawk, stop telling half-truths
[06:26] <lamego> Gonzo, you mean, i may not have the latest one :)
[06:26] <ali1234> utab: make sure you have samba, samba-common and smbfs installed
[06:26] <lamego> ok, understood :)
[06:26] <fredl> so does anybody get paid on here to answer questions?
[06:26] <Goshawk> ProN00b: ?
[06:26] <Ash-Fox> fredl, no.
[06:26] <orbin> fredl: we wish
[06:26] <Goshawk> ProN00b: do you mean phrases in mutiple lines?
[06:27] <fredl> well some people should get paid, I often see the same people answering questions.
[06:27] <ProN00b> "the lastest version could be the bugged in you repository" => "the latest version in your repository could be still bugged"
[06:27] <buntu418> how to use the midi keyboard in prodikeys creative midi keyboard
[06:27] <alex_> cool. broken x11 in the stable distro
[06:27] <Ash-Fox> alex_, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[06:27] <fredl> I mean, how come the CD's are free? who's paying for that?
[06:27] <utab> ali1234: they are all here
[06:28] <Elephant> I noticed a package for older versions of Ubuntu that adds web-admin functionality to a box
[06:28] <alex_> Ash-Fox: yeah i figured that out myself
[06:28] <Ash-Fox> fredl, people are paying it from their pockets, donating money.
[06:28] <ali1234> utab: so can you mount those shares from the command line?
[06:28] <Elephant> but I can't find the correponding package in Dapper
[06:28] <Dr_Willis> fredl,  a Millionare Sponser :P
[06:28] <Elephant> Does anyone know what the deal is with that?
[06:28] <Goshawk> ProN00b: they say the same things for me...
[06:28] <fredl> Dr_Willis, I heard something about that, could he not also pay some people to sit here on IRC ?
[06:29] <utab> ali1234: by the usual mount
[06:29] <dapet> What are the java channel named?
[06:29] <synic> dapet: ##java.... but what is your question?
[06:29] <orbin> Elephant: what package?
[06:29] <orbin> synic: i think he summed it up
[06:29] <ProN00b> Goshawk, they actually mean the same, but the first sentence (your sentence) could mean something else too (not to mention the two typos)
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> fredl,  theres is a rather detailed and well done web site/forums that have 99% of the answers to 99% of all the questions asked here.. :P
[06:30] <fredl> Dr_Willis, where? not ubuntu.org right?
 I want to find some documentation, so can learn the language and have a register of all the "cammand words"
[06:30] <fredl> ehr ubuntu.com
[06:30] <SilverMonk> hey there i have just installed Ubuntu and I am having a few issues...
[06:30] <fredl> SilverMonk - like?
[06:31] <kitsuneofdoom> I think someone should either tinyurl the topic (someone using a terminal is going to be annoyed typing out all this stuff) or putting the sudo commands in the topic
[06:31] <typhoid> thanks for getting  my xserver running again =)
[06:31] <SilverMonk> well for one why can i only use 1024x768 resolution?
[06:31] <SilverMonk> i know my screen is capable of better
[06:31] <synic> dapet: honestly, the docs at java.sun.com are the best.
[06:31] <Ash-Fox> I don't like tinyurls
[06:31] <Goshawk> i agree with kitsuneofdoom
[06:31] <Ash-Fox> The domain doesn't resolve for me, ever.
[06:31] <utab> ali1234: I used sudo mount //filesrv/pool ~/documents/MECH_POOL -t smbfs -o username=utabak,password=Utab1905 -o gid=users,dmask=777,fmask=777,rw
[06:31] <utab> ali1234: and the result again the same error
[06:31] <fredl> SilverMonk, nope, usually you can do better resolutions than that. Does your monitor support DPMS or is it a real old one?
[06:32] <ircleuser> Are there any cool things you can do with Ubuntu?
[06:32] <SilverMonk> its a laptop one lol
[06:32] <buntu418> how to use a midi keyboard.. whch music program will allow me to intact with tht.. plssssssssssssssssssss help
[06:32] <SilverMonk> thats all i really know
[06:32] <easytiger> any fallout from the xorg update?
 okay... but are there a helpfull "java how to"? I were not able to find, but maybi I am blind ;)
[06:32] <kingrayray> is xserver-xorg-core fixed yet?
[06:32] <kingrayray> (is it safe to update)
[06:32] <fredl> kingrayray, yes I believe so.
[06:32] <ProN00b> SilverMonk, how you know it can do better resolutions ?
[06:32] <orbin> SilverMonk: common issue unfortunately: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:32] <kingrayray> can you shoot me the wget/dpkg line to fix it just incase? :P
[06:32] <Goshawk> kingrayray: do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4
[06:32] <SilverMonk> for one its widescreen
[06:32] <synic> dapet: first things first.  Do you have the jdk installed?
[06:32] <PPower> Back again, how do you change the message that appears after you log in (e.g. the bit with the (c))
[06:32] <Ash-Fox> kingrayray, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[06:32] <ali1234> utab: wha does dmesg say?
[06:33] <Goshawk> PPower: is the problem solved?
[06:33] <kingrayray> okay
[06:33] <PPower> yeah
[06:33] <PPower> it was the sudoers file
[06:33] <kingrayray> thanks uh.. all you neat people who told me what to do =)
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> fredl,  the ubuntu wiki is also a very good guide.  I need to spend more time exploring it all.
[06:33] <SilverMonk> ok i've got this link...i'll try this
[06:33] <SilverMonk> hopefully it will work :)
[06:33] <synic> dapet: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/index.html
[06:33] <SilverMonk> cuz 1024x768 sucks lol
[06:34] <Goshawk> !help > Goshawk
[06:34] <dapet> synic> I have everything installed, even Eclipse ;)
[06:34] <hadi> how can I change computer name after [at]  in terminal?
[06:34] <utab> ali1234 : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21412
[06:34] <PPower> Goshawk: How do I change the message that appears after console login
[06:34] <dapet> synic> I have worked with Java a half year ago, but stopped and now I want to start againg.. So I need som doc's ;)
[06:34] <Goshawk> can someone add this to ubotu? "you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade"
[06:34] <orbin> !hostname > hadi
[06:34] <ali1234> utab: try changing the fs type from smbfs to cifs
[06:34] <synic> dapet: that url I gave you should work.
[06:34] <ircleuser> Are there any cool things you can do with Ubuntu?
[06:34] <Goshawk> PPower: i don't knwo let me investigate
[06:34] <PPower> ok
[06:34] <hadi> yes
[06:35] <PPower> i need to package up some files
[06:35] <rhyddin> hey all
[06:35] <PPower> hey
[06:35] <ProN00b> ircleuser, lol
[06:35] <utab> ali1234 : the same
[06:35] <KrakensDen> ircleuser, no, it's all boring
[06:35] <ircleuser> ProN00b: Lol. I'm new, and I want to see the cool stuff :-D
[06:35] <eugman> Hey, I blindly updated just now and then saw Digg shouting "Danger, Will Robinson! Danger!". Is xserver still broken or were they updates harmless at this point?
[06:35] <KrakensDen> they've gotten fixed
[06:35] <KrakensDen> finally
[06:35] <orbin> Goshawk: well, there's already the xorgbugfix factoid
[06:36] <albacker> guys can someone help me ? the page with w32codecs.deb seems to be down ?! where can i find it else ?!
[06:36] <lamego> eugman, update using the command from Goshawk , that will check for the proper update
[06:36] <ProN00b> ircleuser, you could for example hack some windows computers while looking at your completely 3d desktop ^^
 thx you are the hero of the day :D
[06:36] <orbin> hadi: ubotu sent you a pm
[06:36] <Goshawk> !xorgbugfix > Goshawk
[06:36] <hadi> OK
[06:36] <ProN00b> ircleuser, cool enough ?
[06:36] <utab> ali1234 : I remembered that I had a script for this before so I will pastebin that as well, may be you can know where to put that for automount
[06:36] <ProN00b> ircleuser, unfortunately that also requires some skill ^^
[06:36] <ircleuser> ProN00b: Do you mean with xgl?
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> albacker,  i often get the latest from the mplayer homepage
[06:36] <ircleuser> :-)
[06:36] <ProN00b> ya, xgl
[06:36] <albacker> Dr_Willis: mplayerhq.hu right ?
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> albacker,  i always google for it
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:36] <ali1234> utab: tbh i'm clutching at straws now. i've never had this much trouble
[06:37] <ravenous> if i wanted to make one dir on my system for all users to access for songs, vids etc where would a good place be? under /share or something is there a better spot for it?
[06:37] <albacker> Dr_Willis: im not finding the link.. ok ill google too
[06:37] <Goshawk> orbin: it's good, but there is not "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4" command
[06:37] <albacker> Dr_Willis: wheres the link ?
[06:38] <Ash-Fox> You can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[06:38] <hadi> I change it absolutly but it does not shown in terminal
[06:38] <Ramunas> hello
[06:38] <Ash-Fox> Ramunas, hello.
[06:38] <utab> ali1234 : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21414
[06:38] <kingrayray> hey, how can i get gtk apps running with sudo permissions to use the same gtk theme as my user?
[06:39] <Ramunas> I'm thinking of buying a new pc, I was wondering if "ubuntu+sata=problems" is true?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> albacker,  the mplayer page/server also hosts the w32codecs last i looked. last month or so..
[06:39] <PPower> Ramunas: No prob with my nForce 4 SATA
[06:39] <orbin> Goshawk: so alter it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:39] <Goshawk> PPower: i don't know, look at google
[06:39] <PPower> ok, thanks
[06:39] <Goshawk> orbin: tahnks
[06:39] <Minty> help please, afetr update last nite I have now x server not working and can only boot into 'terminal scrren'
[06:39] <orbin> yw
[06:39] <Minty> what do I have to do
[06:39] <Ash-Fox> Minty, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[06:39] <buntu418> how to use a midi keyboard with ubuntu to compose music.. any music guys using ubuntu????? i hav a prodikeys creative keyboard!!! plssssss
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> albacker,  right there on the download page. :P
[06:40] <orbin> Goshawk: Ash-Fox seems to be doing a good job though :)
[06:40] <orbin> no need for ubotu
[06:40] <ali1234> buntu418: the only midi app i could get working was bristol
[06:40] <utab> ali1234: but could not understand why I can not mount that from command line
[06:40] <ProN00b> buntu418, you could search for apps on freshmeat or sourceforge
[06:40] <Goshawk> orbin: yep he's better that ubotu :D, isn't it Ash-Fox?
[06:40] <albacker> Dr_Willis: the essential package ?
[06:40] <Goshawk> s/that/than
[06:40] <ProN00b> or with synaptic of course, buntu418
[06:40] <Ash-Fox> Well, it's a issue that isn't going to last very long anyway.
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> albacker,  or a quick look at the install guide shows -->  http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/codecs.html
[06:41] <snoops> how can I do a line count on a file?
[06:41] <OoberMick> snoops: wc -l
[06:41] <snoops> wc -l filename?
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> albacker,  hmm i recall seeing deb packages tehre befor.. wonder where they went.
[06:41] <OoberMick> snoops: yeah
[06:41] <snoops> great
[06:41] <snoops> thanks you
[06:42] <ali1234> utab: ah well your script uses smbmount not mount
[06:42] <Stephenl> I'm unable to log in to X even after downgrading and upgrading.  It logs me in for a second then kicks me back to the X login screen
[06:42] <ali1234> utab: did you try mount -t cifs...
[06:42] <Stephenl> What could be causing this?
[06:42] <c0nf> Hey! Im from phone. ATM. Installing Ubuntu. I have 2 HDDs. What I need to chose? Both primary ext3?
[06:42] <utab> ali1234: yes
[06:42] <utab> ali1234 : you have suggested that as well
[06:42] <linux__alien> i am unable to execute the 32 bit version of Firefox in my 64 bit version
[06:42] <cfedde> is there a way to get around the 2Gbyte file size limitation of smbfs mount points?
[06:42] <c0nf> ???
[06:43] <ali1234> utab: i don't know then. sorry
[06:43] <utab> ali1234 : but normal mount also does not work
[06:43] <c0nf> utab?
[06:43] <dsch04> easyubuntu.freecontrib.org seems to be down... or is it just me?
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> cfedde,  i though that limit got removed some time ago.
[06:43] <Ash-Fox> Stephenl, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[06:43] <Ramunas> can you guys look and tell me will this machine work fine with Ubuntu, I just want to make sure that I'll be able to use it
[06:43] <Ramunas> http://pastebin.com/773327
[06:43] <utab> c0nf: trying to mount a samba drive but no success
[06:44] <ali1234> cfedde: use cifs instead of smb
[06:44] <fredl> how can it be that X says [drm]  failed to load kernel module "fglrx" ?
[06:44] <c0nf> Can u help me?
[06:44] <c0nf> Plz scroll lil bit up
[06:44] <cfedde> ali1234: thanks
[06:44] <Ash-Fox> fredl, a error occured, that's how.
[06:44] <snoops> hehe OoberMick maybe I shouldn't have tried this on a file with close to 3 million database records ;)
[06:44] <buntu418> thank guys.. hav to try cos i dont know whehter ubuntu had detected the midi keyboard o not
[06:44] <utab> c0nf : tell your problem
[06:44] <ali1234> buntu418: http://www.headfuzz.co.uk/?q=midihack5
[06:45] <hadi> how can I change hostname in terminal?
[06:45] <esc_ape> how can I find out what driver my wireless pci card uses? any command I can put in the terminal?
[06:45] <jpjacobs> hadi, change it in /etc/hostname
[06:45] <utab> hadi : take a look at shell variables
[06:45] <OoberMick> snoops: perhaps not... you might be there a while
[06:45] <c0nf> Im installing ubuntu, i have 2 hdds
[06:45] <fredl> Ash-Fox, How can I troubleshoot that though?
[06:45] <ramvi> I've installed fglrx and chosen it in dpkg-reconfigure. But still gf
[06:45] <ramvi> ups
[06:45] <Ash-Fox> fredl, I would look at the logs /var/log/xorg.0.log or something like that.
[06:45] <hadi> I change it but it does not shown in terminal
[06:45] <c0nf> What i need to choose
[06:45] <Stephenl> Ash-Fox:  I tried both and I still can't login.
[06:45] <c0nf> Both ext3?
[06:46] <fredl> Ash-Fox, that's where I got that message from.
[06:46] <ramvi> I've installed fglrx and chosen it in dpkg-reconfigure. But still fglrx returns OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org. What do I do for it to use the ati drivers?
[06:46] <Ash-Fox> Stephenl, they are different commands, choose one and stick with it.
[06:46] <Goshawk> Ramunas: it should go, but look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:46] <c0nf> ?
[06:46] <fredl> ramvi - apt-get  install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[06:46] <looktj> X wont boot
[06:47] <jbroome> ohnoes
[06:47] <jdodson> looktj: join the club.
[06:47] <Ash-Fox> Stephenl, if you can install one of them properly, and x doesn't start on next reboot, you can try doing a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:47] <fredl> looktj - read the subject line.
[06:47] <Ash-Fox> looktj, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[06:47] <xxpor2> !xorgbug > looktj
[06:47] <looktj> how do i update w/o reinstalling
[06:47] <TheGateKeeper> looktj: 10.4 is now available in the repos
[06:47] <c0nf> Plz help faster im from phone
[06:47] <looktj> im on live cd
[06:47] <ramvi> fredl, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386 is allready the newest version... :(
[06:48] <utab> how to install smbmonut
[06:48] <buntu418> ali1234: tht app doesnt support my prodikeys creative keyboard.. thanks
[06:48] <ramvi> utab, sudo apt-get install samba
[06:48] <Goshawk> utab: sudo apt-get install packageName
[06:48] <ex_> I can't install libfaac0 on 606. because it needs  libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6) . Help!
[06:48] <fredl> ramvi - grep drm /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:48] <ali1234> buntu418: it should do, if it's a standard midi device
[06:49] <looktj> do i have to reinstall?
[06:49] <fredl> ramvi - got any 'failed to load kernel module "fglrx"' in there?
[06:49] <looktj> since i cant update?
[06:49] <fredl> why can't you update?
[06:49] <buntu418> ali1234: oh i see.. thanks.. now installing
[06:49] <looktj> it just shows kubuntu
[06:50] <ramvi> fredl, yeah
[06:50] <ramvi> fredl, http://pastebin.com/773333
[06:50] <Ash-Fox> pipesmoker, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[06:50] <fredl> ramvi - then you have the same problem I have I think.
[06:50] <Goshawk> looktj: do you are having X troubles?
[06:50] <zithowa> what is the type of expression used in most shells?
[06:50] <Chu> Hello, everyone! I have recently switched monitors for this machine, and now the viewing area seems to go a bit off the screen to the right and bottom. I recall seeing a fix for this, but I have no idea where or how to correct this. :/
[06:50] <looktj> i cant update cause of x bug
[06:50] <buntu418> ali1234: hey i installed.. wherer to find it
[06:51] <pipesmoker> Ash-Fox: thx for the repitition, i downgraded allready, still waiting for the update...
[06:51] <hadi> how can I be root in graphical interface?
[06:51] <ramvi> fredl, the same problem? The same as who?
[06:51] <fredl> ramvi - yup, exactly the same message I get.
[06:51] <PPower> hadi: Gnome login?
[06:51] <ramvi> fredl, what do we do?
[06:51] <hadi> yes
[06:51] <Goshawk> looktj: you can, follow me: are you logged into your machine in the shell?
[06:51] <fredl> ramvi - and your ATI card used to work fine until today?
[06:51] <zithowa> they are not quite standard regular expressions (since * actually means .*)... so what are they?
[06:51] <ali1234> buntu418: at console: startBristol
[06:51] <ramvi> fredl, nah. New Macbook pro
[06:51] <PPower> hadi: Go to login screen config. I think it is in Administation
[06:51] <buntu418> ali1234: thanks'
[06:51] <ali1234> buntu418: and then follow the instructions for aconnect
[06:52] <Goshawk> PPower: did you found the file in which there is written the login message?
[06:52] <PPower> No
[06:52] <harisund> I was just wondering, how will I know what ports my firewall is blocking. I couldn't log in to my own box locally using SSH, but it took me a while to realize iptables chains disallowed SSH on my eth0 interface ?
[06:52] <PPower> Goshawk: Checked bashrc and bash_profiel
[06:52] <fredl> ramvi - I think it's because of the trouble with xorg-core today, can't think of any other reason why it wouldn't be able to load the kernel module.
[06:52] <looktj> GosHawk: I'm on the live cd
[06:52] <Goshawk> PPower: me too
[06:52] <PPower> hadi: Then check the Allow root login box in Security
[06:52] <ramvi> so I can just start up with an old kernel?
[06:52] <PPower> Goshawk: Do you think it is hard coded
[06:52] <fredl> ramvi - I just have the complication that I manually installed the 8.27 drivers manually and thought that might be the source of my problems.
[06:52] <Goshawk> looktj: you have to be on you pc (no live cd)
[06:53] <hadi> thx
[06:53] <Goshawk> looktj: do you know how to login from text mode?
[06:53] <Supremacy> Hey, Could anyone please help me?
[06:53] <ramvi> fredl, but it wqa
[06:53] <PPower> Goshawk: Found it
[06:53] <PPower> /etc/motd
[06:53] <fredl> ramvi - don't think so, since the kernel hasn't been update.
[06:53] <Minty> Ash-Fox got x server working thanks a lot, saw this on web site but didnt ,nned it http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241254
[06:53] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, yes?
[06:53] <Goshawk> Supremacy: you should explain your problem
[06:53] <looktj> Goshawk: how do i login if there's no login screen
[06:53] <ramvi> hmm
[06:53] <kingrayray> hey guys, does gdm use a different xorg.conf? sometimes it seems to use settings that i no longer have set in xorg.conf, while startx has no issues
[06:53] <fredl> ramvi, what's wqa?
[06:53] <lwizardl> hi
[06:53] <Supremacy> I ca'r start X
[06:53] <Goshawk> looktj: don't you get the text based login?
[06:53] <Ash-Fox> Minty, no problem.
[06:53] <Supremacy> cant*
[06:54] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[06:54] <Goshawk> looktj: when x does not work you can login in text mode
[06:54] <buntu418> ali1234: plss see the private msg
[06:54] <ramvi> fredl, typo :P but it did't work?
[06:54] <looktj> Goshawk no, just Kubuntu in blue text
[06:54] <ali1234> buntu418: i didn;t get any msg. are you registered?
[06:54] <buntu418> nop
[06:54] <looktj> do i do ctrl+alt+f1?
[06:54] <Supremacy> Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb'
[06:54] <buntu418> where to see the aconnect
[06:54] <Goshawk> Ash-Fox: can i call you with "Ash-Fox: Xbug" :D ?
[06:55] <fredl> ramvi, the xorg-core update today caused trouble so I thought maybe it was because of my 8.27 manual install. Yeah it worked earlier, and it worked just fine.
[06:55] <ali1234> buntu418: at the console
[06:55] <Ash-Fox> Goshawk, I suppose :P
[06:55] <looktj> brb
[06:55] <PPower> Goshawk: I found the filename :)
[06:55] <Goshawk> looktj: yep you have to dounf  a free terminal with ctrl+alt+f[1-9]
[06:55] <OoberMick> Ash-Fox: you're going to regret that
[06:55] <Goshawk> PPower: where is it?
[06:55] <fredl> ramvi, so I tried to go back to 8.25 and thought that perhaps 8.27 files were in there that caused the prob I'm having now.
[06:55] <PPower> Goshawk: /etc/motd
[06:55] <buntu418> nothing abt aconnect in consol
[06:55] <Goshawk> PPower: looking
[06:56] <Ash-Fox> OoberMick, why?
[06:56] <ramvi> :(
[06:56] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, what xserver-xorg-core version do you have installed?
[06:56] <buntu418> ali1234: the last thing it shows is"allocated 48 colors
[06:56] <fredl> does anybody use fglrx and does NOT have problems with hardware 3D after today's mess-up?
[06:56] <OoberMick> Ash-Fox: RSI from typing the same thing over and over
[06:57] <richiefrich> fredl still not worink
[06:57] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, sorry, i'm a new linux user. How can I see what xorg version I have?
[06:57] <richiefrich> workin*
[06:57] <richiefrich> fredl :(
[06:57] <ali1234> buntu418: you may need to: sudo modprobe snd-seq
[06:57] <fredl> richiefrich, same here. can't load the kernel module for you either?
[06:57] <PPower> Supremacy: I suppose you dont have graphical at the mo
[06:57] <Stromberg`> hi everyone
[06:58] <PPower> Hi
[06:58] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core
[06:58] <PPower> bah, you beat me :)
[06:58] <buntu418> ali1234: u mean before opening the program?
[06:58] <richiefrich> fredl no didnt we discuss the new X 7.1?3
[06:58] <Stromberg`> is there a graphical interface for opening ports in ubuntu?
[06:58] <Stromberg`> like 6801,tcp
[06:58] <ali1234> buntu418: yes, if it fails to run properly
[06:58] <richiefrich> fredl and that u think u have a strange problem
[06:58] <PPower> Stromberg`: Not that I know of, Using firestarter?
[06:58] <fredl> richiefrich, oh, I solved that!!!
[06:58] <richiefrich> fredl did u ever contact ATi?
[06:58] <linux__alien> All of a sudden my Browser does not connect to the internet. i am using pppoe to connect to the internet
[06:58] <Stromberg`> PPower, i dont know firestarter
[06:58] <richiefrich> fredl what was it ?
[06:58] <linux__alien> could some one help me please?
[06:59] <PPower> Stromberg`: Do you have it installed? Check in the menus
[06:59] <fredl> richiefrich, remember I got the 2D only driver to work at least? well, that one started getting fickle on me too.
[06:59] <Goshawk> linux__alien: are you talking from the same pc in which firefox is running?
[06:59] <linux__alien> The other stuff works but Firefox does not work after some time when i am on line
[06:59] <richiefrich> fredl yes yes tell me more
[06:59] <linux__alien> yes
[06:59] <ex_> I can't install libfaac0 on dapper because it needs   libc6 (>=2.3.6-6) which is not in dapper. I thought of using equivs but that would be bad.. Ideas?
[06:59] <Goshawk> linux__alien: check proxies
[06:59] <linux__alien> Goshawk, yes i am now able to chat using irc and even synaptic is working
[06:59] <fredl> richiefrich, so then it became time to open up the box and get rid of the damn video card. Turned out the fan wasn't spinning.
[06:59] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, And now? you know I think there's something wrong with my xorg.conf file...
[06:59] <ravenous> what permissions do i have to give a '/archive' directory so all my users can read and write and execute anything from any dir inside it?
[06:59] <buntu418> ali1234: the programs is open .. doesnt make any sound ...keyboard doesnt work with it
[06:59] <linux__alien> but after some minutes Firefox does not connect to the internet
[06:59] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, well, what is the version?
[07:00] <fredl> richiefrich, it got hot and apparently the fglrx driver makes it hotter faster than the radeon driver.
[07:00] <Goshawk> linux__alien: edit---preferencies--general
[07:00] <Goshawk> linux__alien: then connection settings
[07:00] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, I don't know... doesn't show any version
[07:00] <Stromberg`> PPower, now installed it... it tells me about "Do a new firewall"
[07:00] <Stromberg`> does it use iptables?
[07:00] <ali1234> buntu418: what about if you click on the keys with the mouse?
[07:00] <Goshawk> linux__alien: are you there?
[07:00] <fredl> richiefrich, so I installed a new fan, voila, works. And now the fglrx driver worked fine too, until today's mess-up that is :)
[07:00] <linux__alien> yes
[07:00] <PPower> Stromberg`: Ok, im confused, im not atLinux at the mo. I believe so, run through the wizard
[07:00] <TooTallJones> Anyone care to help me configure my ATI 9550 I get direct rendering: no and 3d applications aren't working at all
[07:00] <linux__alien> i dont have a proxy
[07:00] <dapet> Are there a way to make all text bigger in Firefox?
[07:00] <ircleuser> How can I use Lynx to visit a website?
[07:00] <Goshawk> set "direct connection"
[07:00] <TooTallJones> i've tried all three possible drivers, and no dice
[07:00] <linux__alien> i ve direct connection to the net
[07:01] <Stromberg`> ok thx m8
[07:01] <PPower> ircleuser: Type g and the url
[07:01] <buntu418> ali1234: no sound
[07:01] <ircleuser> PPower: Thanks.
[07:01] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, what does it show?
[07:01] <Goshawk> linux__alien: is is set as "direc connection" yet?
[07:01] <PPower> np
[07:01] <ali1234> buntu418: try changing the keyboard preset, click the on screen number pad
[07:01] <linux__alien> yes
[07:01] <ircleuser> PPower: Nothing happens. Do I have to type something before "g"?
[07:01] <PPower> ircleuser: One mo, let me test
[07:01] <fredl> anybody here had fglrx driver for ATI card running with hardware 3D support but no longer after today?
[07:01] <Goshawk> linux__alien: click on apply
[07:01] <linux__alien> Goshawk, Initially it works when i connect to the net but after sometime it does not
[07:02] <mats> ircleuser: lynx is not in the basic-setup for ubuntu
[07:02] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, when does it show what? please explain again how to show the version
[07:02] <Goshawk> linux__alien: uhm...
[07:02] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core
[07:02] <TooTallJones> fredl  I had that problem
[07:02] <TooTallJones> I have that problem, not from today but a few days ago
[07:02] <FirstStrike> hey guys..my x server is refusing to start. it's saying something about "no screens found"
[07:02] <Goshawk> linux__alien: do ping www.google.com in a shell and paste me ouput (private please)
[07:02] <PPower> ircleuser: When you press g it should say URL to open:
[07:02] <linux__alien> Goshawk, when i do traceroute6 www.google.com
[07:02] <linux__alien> traceroute: unknown host www.google.com
[07:02] <Goshawk> Ash-Fox: Xbug
[07:02] <fredl> TooTallJones, ok, did it ever work before?
[07:02] <Ash-Fox> FirstStrike, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[07:02] <PPower> ircleuser: Are you sure you are using lynx and not LINKS
[07:03] <TooTallJones> Yeah it did, then suddenly it was no longer working
[07:03] <Goshawk> Ash-Fox: :D you man!
[07:03] <jpjacobs> Firestrike, sounds like a misconfigured xorg.conf to me...
[07:03] <TooTallJones> still trying to get a fix on it
[07:03] <linux__alien> but xchat is working , gaim is working and infact synaptic is also working
[07:03] <lipe1> My gnome-keyboard-properties is crashing when I try to add a layout. Ideas?
[07:03] <TooTallJones> nothing seems to do it =(
[07:03] <buntu418> ali1234: where to find keyboard preset
[07:03] <alek> how to mount smbfs with write perm? mounted folder has chmod 755 so only root can write in it:(
[07:03] <fredl> TooTallJones, can you grep drm /var/log/Xorg.0.log and tell me if it shows [drm]  failed to load kernel module "fglrx" in there?
[07:03] <TooTallJones> yeah
[07:03] <linux__alien> Goshawk, any ideas?
[07:04] <fredl> TooTallJones, does it show that?
[07:04] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, uhm... doesn't show anything about a version
[07:04] <Goshawk> linux__alien: open a shell and type: firefox
[07:04] <ali1234> buntu418: you see the green box, numeric keypad, and up/down buttons?
[07:04] <ali1234> on the right, just above the keys
[07:04] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, shows here
[07:04] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, you know, I think there's somehting wrong with my xorg.conf file
[07:04] <TooTallJones> open failed
[07:04] <TooTallJones> fredl
[07:04] <looktj> Can i help people fix x?
[07:05] <Goshawk> looktj: how is it going?
[07:05] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, and until you tell me what version of X you have, I'm not going futher.
[07:05] <ali1234> buntu418: click the "V" button until it says "PRG:99" on the green box
[07:05] <Goshawk> looktj: did you fixed yours?
[07:05] <ali1234> the click a key on the keyboard
[07:05] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, I gave you the command, what was the last line of output?
[07:05] <fredl> TooTallJones, do you have the package linux-restricted-modules installed?
[07:05] <cfedde> is there a lib32 version of libgdbm available?
[07:05] <TooTallJones> I do
[07:05] <buntu418> ali1234: doesnt help./...:(
[07:06] <looktj> i did Ctrl+alt+f1, logined, then did "sudo aptitude update" then sudo aptitude upgrade
[07:06] <NettezzaUrbana> MyProblem: Unable to retreive modem... any suggestion?
[07:06] <TooTallJones> I upgraded them last night from -23 to -26 to see if that did it, but nope
[07:06] <ProN00b> Supremacy, there was a known bad update, it has been fixed with another update, but your mirror might not yet have that, so just update and upgrade, and maybe change the update mirror
[07:06] <looktj> then sudo reboot
[07:06] <ali1234> buntu418: then you have some audio problem
[07:06] <Ash-Fox> looktj, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[07:06] <Goshawk> looktj: it was wrong
[07:06] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, I typed Xorg -version and it showed X window system version 7.0.0
[07:06] <looktj> thanks
[07:06] <fredl> TooTallJones, weird. It worked for me yesterday so I blamed it exclusively on today's xserver-xorg mess-up
[07:06] <ompaul> looktj, why the reboo, just reastart X logout not reboot and log in
[07:07] <Goshawk> Supremacy: package version is not program version
[07:07] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, please give me the output of dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core
[07:07] <TooTallJones> hm
[07:07] <ProN00b> Supremacy, do what Ash-Fox told looktj
[07:07] <buntu418> ali1234: my media players and everything works fine :(
[07:07] <TooTallJones> I never had problems untill I downloaded compiz and Xgl
[07:07] <rhyddin> hey, whats with the xserver update today? whats new with it? is there a page i can read the changelog at?
[07:07] <lipe1> My gnome-keyboard-properties is crashing when I try to add a layout. I even reinstalled gnome-control-center
[07:07] <TooTallJones> but I removed them and no changes
[07:07] <ompaul> driveler|sleep, please do not change your nick - use /away sleeping - it is silent
[07:07] <Ash-Fox> ProN00b, I believe Supremacy has two problems actually
[07:07] <looktj> ompaul: im a newb lol
[07:07] <ali1234> buntu418: mine too
[07:07] <NettezzaUrbana> ppp doesn't retreive modem... any suggestion?
[07:08] <ompaul> looktj, now you know - you don't need to laugh out loud :-)
[07:08] <Ash-Fox> !ppp
[07:08] <ubotu> ppp: Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) daemon. In component main, is standard. Version 2.4.4b1-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 314 kB, installed size 1000 kB
[07:08] <ali1234> buntu418: the only other thing to try is qsynth, but i don't know how to make a sound from that. it will however, log your midi events to the screen
[07:08] <PPower> To people having trouble with X: I believe a new version has hit the repos, (10.4). Can someone test this for us?
[07:08] <driveler|sleep> ompaul, thanks
[07:08] <Goshawk> linux__alien: are you still here?
[07:08] <fredl> PPower - I have the new version with apt-get
[07:08] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, how about: X protocol version 11 ? because when typing dpkg -1 xserver-xorg it doesn't show anything
[07:08] <Ash-Fox> !softmodem
[07:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about softmodem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <PPower> fredl: The 10.4?
[07:08] <fredl> PPower - yes I believe so, lemme check
[07:08] <Stuttergart> am I crazy or do the FDS docs not have any information about what information you need to login to the console?
[07:09] <buntu418> ali1234: thanks.. will try tht... do u know how to check whether this keyboard has been detected by ubuntu properly
[07:09] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, that tells me the x protocol version, not the package version.
[07:09] <PPower> fredl: If it is, does it work
[07:09] <fredl> 1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 works.
[07:09] <ali1234> buntu418: aconnect -i
[07:09] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, apt-get install xserver-xorg-core ?
[07:09] <fredl> PPower - but there appears to be another problem with it.
[07:09] <Stuttergart> cn="Directory  Manager"/<password>/<URL>
[07:09] <PPower> what
[07:09] <NettezzaUrbana> it's a bluetooth modem... however thanks for helping me
[07:09] <Stuttergart> but what is the correct URL?
[07:10] <fredl> PPower, for some reason X logs that it cannot load the fglrx kernel module.
[07:10] <Stuttergart> http://<servername>:2405?
[07:10] <rhyddin> alright, wtf? i installed the new update and now my xserver wont start.
[07:10] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, ok, downloading xorg-core
[07:10] <Goshawk> looktj: log from you pc and do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4 to fix X
[07:10] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, er, it must be xserver-xorg-core
[07:10] <PPower> fredl: Ok, but it should be alright for all non fglrx users
[07:10] <alek> how to get write perm in samba mounted folder? parameter "rw" doesnt work:(
[07:10] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, sorry, meant that
[07:10] <fredl> PPower, from Xorg.0.log: [drm]  failed to load kernel module "fglrx"
[07:10] <PPower> fredl: Shall I tell everyone
[07:10] <rhyddin> yeah, its xserver-xorg-core
[07:10] <harisund> Ppower you mean the latest update doesn't work for users with flgrx module loaded?
[07:11] <PPower> Yes, it works for everyone else
[07:11] <rhyddin> i dont use the fglrx
[07:11] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, ok, it's installed
[07:11] <Ash-Fox> fredl, 'lspci |grep -i ati' ?
[07:11] <fredl> PPower - who's 'everyone'? :) The 10.4 may not be available in all repos I think.
[07:11] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, shall I try to reboot?
[07:11] <PPower> fredl: It is in the UK one
[07:11] <phreakys> hey
[07:11] <rhyddin> i have an ati 7500 - the fglrx module doesnt work on it
[07:11] <rhyddin> but the new update definately screwed up X
[07:11] <harisund> PPower: hmmm.. I haven't updated yet. rhyddin what else would you suggest I use for the ATi Radeon Xpress 200M card? Only that provides me with 3D?
[07:11] <PPower> rhyddin: Bug in 10.4
[07:11] <PPower> harisund: Dont update
[07:11] <fredl> Ash-Fox, 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV410 [Radeon X700 Pro (PCIE)]
[07:11] <SKossu> im a total newb, but why dont terminal recognize the command make? :S
[07:11] <harisund> Ppower right. I am not updating yet :)
[07:11] <jbroome> i believe the bug is in 10.3
[07:12] <PPower> harisund: Excellent
[07:12] <jbroome> 10.4 is the fix
[07:12] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, type in sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core, and after startx (not as root)
[07:12] <harisund> Skossu you will have to install it. execute 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[07:12] <lamego> SKossu, because you need to install the package build-essential
[07:12] <Goshawk> SKossu: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:12] <SKossu> ah, thanks
[07:12] <Larsson-Sweden> Im experiencing slow file transfers in amsn 0.97b ! Any ideas?
[07:12] <cica> hi guys
[07:12] <harisund> Wow! That was 3 quick replies for SKossu one after the other :
[07:12] <rhyddin> I was just using the radeon driver and had acceleration .. dont know whats up with it now
[07:12] <PPower> >>> If you are NOT using fglrx driver, _please run apt-get update, and then install the latest X server (check first that it is 10.4) <<<
[07:12] <ali1234> 0.
[07:13] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, how do I "logout" from root?
[07:13] <Lane> If an IDE hardware RAID is set up properly will Linux see it as a single disk
[07:13] <fredl> where's that xserver-xorg-core builder hiding anyway? :)
[07:13] <Chu> Okay, I just recently got breezy on this machine, and now I see dapper. Is there a decent way to upgrade WITHOUT burning the iso?
[07:13] <Goshawk> harisund: :D
[07:13] <cica> can anyone please advise on how to install downloaded sound tar balls?
[07:13] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, 'exit'
[07:13] <cica> i.e. for system sounds
[07:13] <PPower> Chu: Mount as a loop, 1 mo
[07:13] <nikin> how can i enable universe and multiverse repos in console?
[07:13] <fredl> cica - untar them using tar xvf <filename>
[07:13] <buntu418> ali1234: \thanks.. i think i hav to try and figure out.. gnight
[07:13] <Chu> PPower: I'm sorry, I didn't get that... :p
[07:13] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, aaah it seems to work! Big thanks man!
[07:13] <phreakys> i removed the open apps from the gnome taskbar. how can i get it back? ;(
[07:13] <Ash-Fox> Supremacy, no problem :)
[07:13] <cica> fredl: then were are the placed?
[07:13] <PPower> chu: See http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper on How to mount/unmount Image (ISO) files without burning
[07:13] <lamego> nikin, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:13] <Goshawk> nikin: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:14] <Chu> Ah, thanks!
[07:14] <Supremacy> Ash-Fox, people like you should get a reward or something :)
[07:14] <harisund> Ppower does it mean there will eventually be a fix for fglrx users? (hopefully :) )
[07:14] <fredl> nikin - http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[07:14] <rummik> does ubuntu delete the packages it downloaded?
[07:14] <rhyddin> Ok, how do I just roll back to the previous xorg core version?
[07:14] <Goshawk> rummik: no
[07:14] <harisund> rummik not unless you ask it to
[07:14] <fredl> cica - usually in your current working directory otherwise in /
[07:14] <PPower> rhyddin: read the title of the channel, and see the bug report, read that
[07:14] <jbroome> rummik: /var/cache/apt/
[07:14] <harisund> rummik: the packages are in /var/cache/apt .....
[07:14] <Ash-Fox> fredl, your card doesn't work with the ati proprietory drivers, and should have 3d acceleration out of the box with the default ones
[07:14] <Goshawk> rummik: they are in /var/cache/apt/archives
[07:14] <harisund> rummik: you can delete is using apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean
[07:15] <rummik> ok, thanks guys
[07:15] <phreakys> my apps dont show up anymore in the taskbar :S
[07:15] <Ash-Fox> fredl, if you remove fglrx, and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core, you should have 3d acceleration after restarting x
[07:15] <rhyddin> thanks
[07:15] <fredl> Ash-Fox, lemme try
[07:15] <phreakys> gnome panel that is
[07:15] <fredl> Ash-Fox, should I also remove the linux-restricted-modules package?
[07:15] <Ash-Fox> fredl, By the way, to test if you have hardware acceleration: glxinfo |grep direct
[07:15] <Maen> please someone help me configure pptp :(
[07:15] <rhyddin> is 'no devices deteced' same as 'no screens found'?
[07:15] <Ash-Fox> fredl, you can leave that there.
[07:15] <pianoboy3333> Can anyone help me with compiling issues? I have posted here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1409662
[07:15] <PPower> And please update your X server (update apt first) once you remove fglrx, but check if your mirror is using X 10.4
[07:16] <Ash-Fox> rhyddin, you can type 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.4' to upgrade to the correct version (provided the mirror is upto date, else wait), or 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core=1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10' to downgrade
[07:16] <cica> fredl: and the system will just pick them up??! (when I say system sounds I mean like start up sound, click sound etc etc) I know when installing icon themes it's done through system -> preferences -> themes. know whatta mean???
[07:16] <nikin> ty :D
[07:16] <fredl> PPower, I already have 10.4, just told you that :P
[07:16] <Chu> PPower: Replace file.iso with the path the the actual thing, I assume? :x
[07:16] <PPower> Ash-Fox: I believe the title needs to be changed
[07:16] <PPower> Chu: Never ;)
[07:16] <cica> fredl: therefore I though it'd be done in a similar way when installing systems sounds
[07:16] <PPower> fredl: i wasnt tarrgiting you
[07:17] <lipe1> where can I manually set my keyobard layout to gnome?
[07:17] <fredl> Ash-Fox, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[07:17] <Wanderer> blah, back packages from cipherfunk
[07:17] <fredl> Ash-Fox, it says to install xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:17] <Wanderer> well, lack of packages
[07:18] <Ash-Fox> fredl, please do what I say
[07:18] <lipe1> anyone?
[07:18] <fredl> Ash-Fox, dpkg --purge xorg-driver-fglrx ?
[07:18] <Ash-Fox> apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:18] <Goshawk> lipe1: system-->preferences-->keyboard
[07:18] <jpjacobs> lipe1 System>Preferences>keyboard
[07:19] <jpjacobs> darn...to late :p
[07:19] <lipe1> Goshawk: it is crashing, thats why I need to make manualy
[07:19] <Goshawk> jpjacobs: hehehhe
[07:19] <Ash-Fox> fredl, you should of had hardware acceleration when you first installed ubuntu with your particular graphic card.
[07:19] <fredl> okaaay... I'll give it a try...
[07:19] <Goshawk> lipe1: does it report an error?
[07:19] <rummik> pcsx doesn't work..."/usr/games/pcsx: line 31: lndir: command not found"
[07:19] <lipe1> Goshawk: only trhat it terminated unexpected, only when I want to add an layout
[07:19] <cica> anyone know where systems sound packages should be installed _Please_ :-)
[07:20] <fredl> ok, I removed that and dpkg-reconfigured....
[07:20] <fredl> lemme restart X
[07:20] <fredl> brb
[07:20] <looktj> fredl: put your rate at 24.5/s -.-
[07:20] <fredl> rate??
[07:20] <Goshawk> lipe1: do this in a shell: gnome-keyboard-properties
[07:20] <looktj> nvm
[07:20] <lipe1> it crashes after adding a layut
[07:20] <Ash-Fox> What are you talking about looktj?
[07:20] <Goshawk> cica: what do you mean for system sound package?
[07:21] <PPower> Bye again!
[07:21] <looktj> thought his repeat rate was fast
[07:21] <rhyddin> Ash-Fox: So whats the deal with this? Is it going to be fixed, or do I have to just ignore that it wants to update?
[07:21] <Goshawk> lipe1: gnome-keyboard-properties ---> try to change the layout, when it crashes it reports an erro in the shell, paste it here
[07:21] <looktj> keyboard
[07:21] <lipe1> Goshawk: ** (gnome-keyboard-properties:5503): WARNING **: key HZTG: keycode =<PHONE_NUMBER>; not in range 8..255
[07:21] <ChickenBrain> hi, i have problems to install java-package in dapper
[07:21] <Ash-Fox> rhyddin, it's already been fixed, it's just a question of when yourm irror gets 10.4
[07:21] <ChickenBrain> actually the package isn't there
[07:21] <rhyddin> Ash-Fox: I'm not complaining, this is the first glitch I've had with Ubuntu, but I'm curious what happened.
[07:22] <looktj> rhyddin: login on text mode
[07:22] <sethk> rhyddin, it will be fixed I'm sure within a day
[07:22] <Goshawk> lipe1: maybe it's a wrong layout, it says that it can read a keycode (or better, it seems wrong)
[07:22] <cica> Goshawk: like icon packages or GDM themes. I've found one on gnome-look.org that I'd like to install
[07:22] <Ash-Fox> rhyddin, well, a security update messed up things in xorg, and as such they rolled back to the older version, under a new version number, 10.4
[07:23] <cica> Goshawk: do you know what I'm talking about?
[07:23] <lipe1> Goshawk: Right now it is US, im trying to put BR
[07:23] <rhyddin> Ok, thats cool.
[07:23] <eugman> So how hard would it be to have a rollback feature in grub like many have suggested?
[07:23] <cica> Goshawk: these http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=25&PHPSESSID=ce5967533131309ed7deb8ba7b53f831
[07:23] <Goshawk> cica: no, i never did it, but i understood, i'm looking in google, you can do too
[07:24] <rhyddin> Rollback would be neat, but in this kind of situation you'd still have to do it from the cl so there isn't much point. Its just as easy to downgrade using apt
[07:24] <cica> Goshawk: I will do. But previous attempts produced nothing :-( But I'll try again
[07:24] <Goshawk> cica: are tehy sounds or icons(theme)?
[07:25] <Goshawk> cica: system---->preferencies--->theme for themes
[07:25] <phreakys> bah
[07:25] <phreakys> dont know how to put apps back on the gnome panel :S
[07:25] <bilss_> hope to start firefox from command line but with root access
[07:25] <FirstStrike> well, that was fun
[07:25] <cica> Goshawk: sounds. I've got the themes working
[07:26] <cica> Goshawk: it's the sounds part I'm stuck at :-(
[07:26] <FirstStrike> i'm going to smack whoever said it was a misconfigured x server
[07:26] <Goshawk> cica: unpackem in a directory
[07:26] <Goshawk> cica: unpack them
[07:26] <Goshawk> cica: and go to system---->preferencies--->sound
[07:26] <idefix> what vfstype does a DVDrom have?
[07:26] <cica> Goshawk: right
[07:27] <sethk> FirstStrike, wasn't me.  you got hit by the bad update?
[07:27] <Goshawk> cica: there are the events
[07:27] <crparr> Hi! I have got a root server with ssh access. I have done apt-get update, apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade. But how can I verify, that the dist upgrade has worked???
[07:27] <rhyddin> idefix : just try using -o loop if u r trying to mount it
[07:27] <axisme> do a cat /proc/version
[07:27] <axisme> what does it say