[13:38] <lg188> Waltzingalong: i have a sot of package but dont know to çnstal
[13:38] <WaltzingAlong> fevel: you may have some success with sudo apt-get autoremove
[13:38] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: which is that
[13:38] <Angelus> morning
[13:38] <fevel> nothing :/
[13:39] <WaltzingAlong> !info gtkorphan | fevel
[13:39] <ubotu> fevel: gtkorphan: A graphical tool to find and remove orphaned libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.2-2 (gutsy), package size 28 kB, installed size 328 kB
[13:39] <lg188> Waltzingalong: ? which ?  need Firefox
[13:39] <WaltzingAlong> fevel: otherwise you can check the link i sent, there are instructions for removing the kde pieces
[13:39] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: with dapper? aptitude search firefox             find it?
[13:39] <fevel> ok
[13:39] <fevel> thanks a lot guys
[13:39] <fevel> !
[13:41] <lg188> Waltzingalong: large list of laungetypes and some tools
[13:41] <WaltzingAlong> !info mozilla-firefox (dapper)
[13:41] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: Transition package for firefox rename. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>~prepatch071011b-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 50 kB, installed size 104 kB
[13:42] <WaltzingAlong> !info firefox (dapper)
[13:42] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>~prepatch071011b-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7791 kB, installed size 23060 kB
[13:42] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: sudo aptitude install firefox            ?
[13:43] <lg188> ty^^
[13:43]  * lg188 thursty
[13:44]  * lg188 likes linux based an linux OS of being open source not lik win
[13:44] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: gnu/linux based operating systems are wonderful
[13:44] <sharkp> hi
[13:44] <sharkp> I've a problem with audio
[13:45] <WaltzingAlong> !hi | sharkp
[13:45] <ubotu> sharkp: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[13:45] <sharkp> it doesn't work
[13:45] <sharkp> but on windows card and speakers work
[13:45] <lg188> ty waltzing ^^ for firfox instaling help
[13:45] <sharkp> so, which could be the problem?
[13:45] <WaltzingAlong> sharkp: lspci    which card? check kmix that the sliders are up and enabled
[13:45] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: welcome
[13:46] <pizzicato`> !compiz
[13:46] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[13:46] <timri> sharkp: also make sure you are part of the audio group
[13:47] <sharkp> timri, until yesterday the audio has always worked
[13:47] <WaltzingAlong> sharkp: so what changed yesterday?
[13:47] <lg188> !info kde
[13:47] <W8TAH> hi folks -- whats the general feeling amoungst the Kubuntu community on 7.10 (Gusty) for production use?
[13:47] <ubotu> kde: the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:47 (gutsy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[13:47] <sharkp> this is the question
[13:47] <sharkp> lol
[13:47] <sharkp> my audio card is:
[13:47] <WaltzingAlong> W8TAH: LTS
[13:47] <sharkp> 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)
[13:48] <W8TAH> WaltzingAlong: its a LTS edition?
[13:48] <sharkp> kmix is normal
[13:48] <sharkp> Now I'll control groups
[13:48] <WaltzingAlong> W8TAH: no last one was 6.06 dapper and next one is 8.04 hardy
[13:49] <timri> WaltzingAlong: 6.06.1
[13:49] <W8TAH> ok -- i guess im being slow this morning - what are you suggestin gthen?
[13:49] <lg188> ? how to instal java runtime ?
[13:49] <WaltzingAlong> right
[13:49] <timri> W8TAH: to stay with Dapper ftm
[13:49] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: the plugin for the web browser?
[13:49] <W8TAH> timri: ok - - why?
[13:49] <sharkp> I'm in audio group
[13:50] <timri> W8TAH: it is more stable, has well known bugs
[13:50] <lg188> Waltzingalong: yep
[13:50] <W8TAH> ok
[13:50] <W8TAH> im getting quite a divergence of views :)
[13:50] <timri> W8TAH: for instance: Gutsy+Unichrome --> Wine does not work
[13:50] <sharkp> WaltzingAlong, any suggestion?
[13:51] <W8TAH> timri: that wont be an issue -- i dont use unichrome or wine
[13:51] <WaltzingAlong> !info sun-java5-plugin (dapper) | lg188
[13:51] <ubotu> lg188: sun-java5-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-13-0ubuntu0.6.06 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 96 kB
[13:51] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: sudo aptitude install sun-java5-plugin
[13:51] <Angelus> guys
[13:51] <timri> W8TAH: the point is: as Gutsy has just been released, new bugs are bound to crop up NOW
[13:51] <timri> W8TAH: you dont want that in a production env.
[13:52] <W8TAH> thats very true
[13:52] <WaltzingAlong> W8TAH: unless you are on feisty then perhaps jumping to gutsy is not so bad
[13:52] <W8TAH> im on fiesty
[13:52] <W8TAH> for servers im staying with the LTS -- this is for a personal machine and my dual boot laptop
[13:52] <Angelus> my friend has this problem, he has a dell laptop, when he boots in ubuntu it dvd works fine, when he boots in kubuntu, and presses something from the menu, nothing works, he really wishes to install kubuntu on his laptop, any help dudes?
[13:52] <timri> W8TAH: If it aint broke...
[13:52] <lg188> Waltzingalong: ty^^
[13:53] <W8TAH> thats the problem - the personal box is broke -- havin a number of issues that will require a reformat one way or the other
[13:53] <W8TAH> just trying to decide which way to jump
[13:53] <WaltzingAlong> Angelus: he can install from the ubuntu dvd and then install kubuntu via the package kubuntu-desktop and could remove ubuntu-desktop
[13:53] <sharkp> who can help me?
[13:53] <WaltzingAlong> W8TAH: then gutsy
[13:53] <timri> W8TAH: In that case (personal box) I would at least try gutsy livecd
[13:53] <WaltzingAlong> sharkp: you can
[13:53] <WaltzingAlong> sharkp: aplay -l
[13:54] <W8TAH> awesome guys -- thanks a ton - -thats the piece i was lookin for
[13:54] <sharkp> WaltzingAlong, **** Lista di PLAYBACK dispositivi hardware ****
[13:54] <sharkp> scheda 0: SI7012 [SiS SI7012], dispositivo 0: Intel ICH [SiS SI7012]
[13:54] <sharkp>   Sottoperiferiche: 0/1
[13:54] <sharkp>   Sottoperiferica #0: subdevice #0
[13:54] <lg188> Waltzingalong: for shockwave ? sudo apt-get search shockwave ?
[13:54] <Angelus> WaltzingAlong: but, installing from the livedvd makes a better installation, like programs will detect better you're kubuntu os, for example cedega, frostwire, progs like that
[13:55] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: not sure it is that easy for shockwave and dapper
[13:55]  * genii sips a coffee
[13:55] <WaltzingAlong> Angelus: something to try, not so dirty as it seems
[13:56] <bjwebb> shockwave as in the movie player?
[13:56] <sharkp> WaltzingAlong, so?
[13:56] <lg188> Waltzingalong: kk is it dowloading manual
[13:56] <timri> brb
[13:57] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: if backports is enabled, sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[13:58] <lg188> Waltzingalong: ty^^
[14:00] <lg188> il lik the suport of kubuntu users its more helping people
[14:00] <sharkp> oh, I can't solve my problem
[14:00] <sharkp> uff...
[14:01] <lg188> and i ca'nt help it :(
[14:01] <lg188> i hope i can help later
[14:02] <WaltzingAlong> !audio | sharkp, we walk through, scientific approach, one thing, not then, ok perhaps this, not that, ok
[14:02] <ubotu> sharkp, we walk through, scientific approach, one thing, not then, ok perhaps this, not that, ok: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[14:03] <lg188>  Shockwave Player ?
[14:04] <lg188> Waltzingalong: Shockwave Player dide'nt a instaled it just 5 minets ago ?
[14:04] <lg188> Waltzingalong: nope it was flashplayer
[14:04] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: you mentioned manually installing shockwave player
[14:05] <sharkp> WaltzingAlong, audio system is enabled
[14:05] <lg188> Waltzingalong: it is'nt for me :We are unable to locate a Web player that matches your platform
[14:06] <lg188> whien
[14:06] <lg188> that was a game :(
[14:06] <lg188> and i like to play it on a windows but i cant do it on kubuntu
[14:08] <lg188> beacaus teh abdobe dont lknowtaht just so good OS exists
[14:08] <timri> lg188: shockwave is not available for linux
[14:08] <genii> flash+linux=doable shockwave+linux=not
[14:08] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: i do not see gnu/linux in the list of systems for which adobe supplies a shockwave browser plugin http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/alternates/
[14:10] <lg188> Waltzingalong: i knwo i looked also  why do they not make it ? is it to dificult for making it even in linux ??
[14:10] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: apparently just a perceived lack of interest and subsequent lack of development by adobe. lg188 be sure to message adobe that you would like to see it
[14:10] <timri> lg188: ask adobe
[14:11] <lg188> timn: i wont it wont meahter
[14:11] <genii> Sign the Shockwave for Linux petition then if you feel strongly enough about it. http://www.petitiononline.com/linuxswp/petition.html
[14:11] <lg188> ty^^ for suporting me =)
[14:12] <timri> lg188: of course it matters, if enough people ask them...
[14:12] <eagles0513875> does anyone know if there r any bugs with the w64codecs
[14:13] <lg188> timn: kk let it go i need a large thing and i dont know muth peopel that use even linux or kubunbtu
[14:13] <lg188> exual nobody
[14:14] <lg188> an that is the reason that i hate windows
[14:15] <eagles0513875> lg188: why do u hate windows
[14:15] <pbn> hello, how can I disable the "hibernate" function in the "shutdown" menu on 7.10 ?
[14:16] <timri> eagles0513875: Just curious, what extra codecs do you need that you cant compile into mplayer (for instance)?
[14:16] <eagles0513875> timri: i have all my audio in wma losless
[14:16] <eagles0513875> and for some reason in soundkonverter there is no wma decoder and i have the w64codecs installed
[14:17] <timri> eagles05:ah, ok
[14:18] <lg188> tha there ar to many windows user thar there are olmost 1 kubuntu suer in 90streets
[14:18] <lg188> user*
[14:18] <timri> lg188: And that makes us extra special :)
[14:18] <lg188> im my country
[14:18] <lg188> =D
[14:18] <lg188> XD
[14:19] <pbn> also, how can I disable the "switch user" feature whent he screen is locked ? There's stuff on the web which says you have to change things in  ./.kde/share/config/kdeglobals ... but these changes are erased by KDE itself...
[14:19] <eagles0513875> does anyone know of any w64codec bugs
[14:20] <kaminix> !swedish
[14:20] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[14:20] <eagles0513875> !bugs
[14:20] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[14:21] <lg188> how to colour the text ?
[14:24]  * lg188 looking for speakers
[14:24] <kaminix> Colour what text?
[14:24] <d347hm4n> can i install all requiered gnome packages with an sudo apt-get install gnome, or do i need other packages?
[14:26] <lg188> oh let it i know it already it a config
[14:26] <Jucato> d347hm4n: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome
[14:26] <d347hm4n> thanks jucato
[14:26]  * Jucato thumbs up
[14:27] <eagles0513875> this suxs
[14:28] <eagles0513875> any ideas as to why i dont have a wma decoder i have ever codec pkg imaginable installed
[14:28] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: ffmpeg ? vlc ? mplayer ?
[14:28] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: i have them all and in soundkonverter no wma decoder just an encoder
[14:28] <eagles0513875> i need the decoder so i can get rid of the wma format and convert to flac
[14:29] <lg188> i dont know
[14:29] <d347hm4n> Jucato: Do i have to do the default window manager step of im using emerald?
[14:29] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: so could you use something else to get to wav, mplayer or the like
[14:29] <Jucato> d347hm4n: don't know
[14:29] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: i cant get out of wma to any format
[14:29] <d347hm4n> Jucato: np, thanks anyway
[14:29] <eagles0513875> cuz i dont have a decoder
[14:29] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: vlc file.wma plays nothing?
[14:29] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: or mplayer ?
[14:30] <d347hm4n> are there any other window managers i can use, just to try things out?
[14:30] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: myy bad i need the encoder
[14:30] <lg188> how to decode a mp3 to teh kubuntu version of it ?
[14:30] <eagles0513875> i have the decoder
[14:30] <eagles0513875> lg188: soundkonvert
[14:30] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: you want the flac encoder? !info flac
[14:30] <lg188> ty^^
[14:30] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: i have all teh codecs for flac already
[14:30] <eagles0513875> i am having issues getting wma
[14:30] <eagles0513875> out of wma
[14:30] <eagles0513875> i need the encoder
[14:30] <eagles0513875> i  have the w64codecs installed
[14:31] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: right you wish to use the program soundkonverter but i am asking you if you can play a .wma file with mplayer or vlc
[14:31] <eagles0513875> let me check
[14:32] <eagles0513875> in mplaeyer it complains about the codec
[14:32] <eagles0513875> and in vlc it plays but no audio
[14:33] <lg188> :s
[14:33] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: are they drm wma files?
[14:33] <eagles0513875> nope
[14:33] <eagles0513875> they shouldnt be unless they became drm after converting to wma
[14:33] <eagles0513875> which woudl really piss me off
[14:33] <lg188> for wmato kubuntu d"fault also soundkonvert ?
[14:34] <d347hm4n> Jucato: i will change it to gdm, then if kde stops working i will change the default
[14:34] <lg188> wma*
[14:34] <Jucato> d347hm4n: you don't need to. KDM can start GNOME sessions, and GDM can start KDE sessions
[14:35] <d347hm4n> Jucato: ok, so no harm done i guess
[14:35] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: what do i do
[14:36] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: apparently only up to wma 9.0 (not 9.1 which is used by wmp 10) can be decoded with those codecs
[14:37] <lg188> ?
[14:37] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: or perhaps you start a vmware windows machine to convert them
[14:37] <lg188> wat is the sound of kubuntu .ogg ?
[14:38] <WaltzingAlong> !ogg
[14:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[14:38] <ole> eagles0513875 what did you convert them with? i remember a friend of mine converted all of his mp3s to wma using a windows shareware application, and they were all drm-crippled afterwards...
[14:38] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: yes one of the recommended free format (containers)
[14:38] <genii> ole: I've seen this hideous behaviour before as well
[14:39] <lg188> Waltzingalong: ty^^
[14:40] <lg188> Waltzingalong: wtf if starting dounfkonverter its a hole list of things ? staying with te defaults ?
[14:40] <eagles0513875> lg188: what format r u going for
[14:40] <lg188> Waltzingalong: or ski^?
[14:40] <b1n42y> ? Does any1 know y theres fancy desktop switching mechanism on ubuntu but not kubuntu and does it have anything to do with compiz ?
[14:40] <lg188> Waltzingalong: or skip
[14:41] <lg188> Waltzingalong: i go for mp3
[14:41] <eagles0513875> ole: i used somethign called jet audio which is a windows app
[14:41] <lg188> Waltzingalong: i dont get it that things
[14:41] <eagles0513875> ole: i have it on here installed using wine but it bitches bout the files being drm which i never drmed them to begin with
[14:41] <lg188> ?
[14:42] <eagles0513875> ?
[14:42] <eagles0513875> lg188: whats wrong
[14:42] <martijn_nerd> help!
[14:42] <martijn_nerd> :)
[14:42]  * lg188 getiing sick of teh sun schying o the screen
[14:42] <martijn_nerd> i just upgraded feisty to gutsy
[14:42] <eagles0513875> !ask |martijn_nerd
[14:42] <ubotu> martijn_nerd: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[14:43] <martijn_nerd> and now my x is so slow
[14:43] <martijn_nerd> have  an  ati x300 card
[14:43] <martijn_nerd> tried both ati and fglrx drivers, but nothing seems to help :(
[14:43] <eagles0513875> martijn_nerd: clean install or upgrade
[14:43] <martijn_nerd> anyone an idea?
[14:43] <martijn_nerd> upgrade
[14:43] <martijn_nerd> tried to disable aiglx as well
[14:43] <eagles0513875> in shell
[14:44] <eagles0513875> run sudo apt-get update
[14:44] <b1n42y>  Does any1 know y theres fancy desktop switching mechanism on ubuntu but not kubuntu and does it have anything to do with compiz ????
[14:44] <eagles0513875> and if there r any updates install them
[14:44] <lg188> eagles0513875: i dont get it whit that list of things in starting 1time soundkonverter
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> !compiz
[14:44] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> b1n42y compiz is NOT included in kubuntu by default
[14:44] <eagles0513875> lg188: just choose the format u want to go into and then add the files u wanna convert and it does the rest
[14:44] <Surge> Where's the best place to ask software RAID questions?
[14:44] <b1n42y> thnx guys
[14:45] <martijn_nerd> no upadates eagle
[14:45] <lg188> eagles0513875:ty^^
[14:45] <martijn_nerd> that all went right
[14:45] <eagles0513875> lg188: no prob
[14:45] <eagles0513875> martijn_nerd: do u have a backup of ur xorg.conf
[14:45] <martijn_nerd> yeah
[14:45] <eagles0513875> restore the original
[14:45] <eagles0513875> martijn_nerd: cuz in gutsy
[14:45] <mike_____> hello all
[14:45] <martijn_nerd> but isnt' that all different now with xrandr etc
[14:46] <eagles0513875> martijn_nerd: not sure
[14:46] <mike_____> i have a question....  how do i install firefox on kubuntu,,, i tried with add/remove programs but it's locked
[14:46] <kaminix> mike_____: sudo aptitude install firefox should work.
[14:46] <eagles0513875> martijn_nerd: i had no issues cuz im on a laptop with a radeon xpress 200m all i did was login and a restricted drivers box popped up and i enabled it and my wifi rebpoted and the open gl works fine
[14:46] <b1n42y> 1 more question, is there any reasons y i should not install compiz apart from sys resources, i read some apps dont work or display properly ....
[14:47] <Dr_Willis> b1n42y compiz can be a real pain. But if you want the fancy uber eye candy its what does it.
[14:47] <Dr_Willis> You can easially run kde with or without compiz
[14:47] <b1n42y> apps wise u mean
[14:47] <mike_____> "no candidate versions were found for firefox"
[14:47] <b1n42y> uninstalling not a problem if i find its a pain ?
[14:48] <lg188> sudo apt-get search firefox
[14:48] <[Surge]> mike_____, Did you update your repositories?
[14:48] <Hydrogen> nope!
[14:48] <Hydrogen> apt-cache search
[14:48] <Hydrogen> not apt-get search
[14:48] <lg188> mike_____ udo apt-get search firfox
[14:48] <WaltzingAlong> aptitude search firefox
[14:48] <mike_____> i don't think so
[14:48] <WaltzingAlong> mike_____: which kubuntu? check that they are not commented out
[14:48] <kaminix> [Surge]: Firefox should be in from the begining, no?
[14:48] <Hydrogen> WaltzingAlong: apt-wrong
[14:48] <mike_____> 10.3
[14:48] <WaltzingAlong> Hydrogen: what?
[14:48] <Hydrogen> its apt-cache search
[14:49] <Hydrogen> not apt-get search
[14:49] <traene> Hi, I am looking for a developer chanel for linux.
[14:49] <Hydrogen> or aptitude search
[14:49] <[Surge]> kaminix, I'm not sure but I remember that error. :)
[14:49] <WaltzingAlong> Hydrogen: i have not suggested to use apt-get search and yes aptitude search firefox searches
[14:49] <[Surge]> mike_____, You'll need to do a "sudo apt-get update" first.
[14:49] <Hydrogen> oops
[14:49] <Hydrogen> no you didn't
[14:49] <WaltzingAlong> !info firefox
[14:49] <Hydrogen> sorry
[14:49] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>+2nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 8967 kB, installed size 26024 kB
[14:49] <WaltzingAlong> np
[14:49] <Hydrogen> lg188 did twice, and you suggested aptitude right after
[14:49] <Hydrogen> and my eyes combined the two
[14:50] <lg188> Hydrogen ?
[14:50] <WaltzingAlong> which is part of the reason i prefer aptitude to apt-get   aptitude install or aptitude search rather than apt-get install and apt-cache search
[14:50] <Hydrogen> lg188: apt-get search doesn't work
[14:50] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: the command is apt-cache search
[14:50] <willo> Hello
[14:51] <willo> WaltzingAlong: Howzit, just had another system freeze
[14:51] <WaltzingAlong> willo: welcome back
[14:51] <WaltzingAlong> willo: still no video?
[14:51] <lg188> WaltzingAlong just wont to help user =)
[14:51] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: :D
[14:51] <willo> WaltzingAlong: No the video's fine
[14:52] <willo> WaltzingAlong: It was running a screen saver, when *blammo*
[14:52] <willo> WaltzingAlong: Not even Num Lock worked
[14:52] <WaltzingAlong> willo: are you using compiz or xserver-xgl or the like
[14:52] <timri> willo: a 3d screensaver perchance?
[14:52] <willo> WaltzingAlong: Nope
[14:52] <willo> timri: No, but a GL one perhaps
[14:53] <willo> looked like a fractal
[14:53] <traene> HELP! Need developer infos about file locking. s.o. knows a chanel therefore?
[14:53] <lg188> WaltzingAlong i like them becaus they dont usez windows :)
[14:53] <timri> willo: try to work a while with the vesa driver, if it still locks up it might be a hardware problem
[14:53] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: what am i supposed to do
[14:53] <mike_____> well it worked... thanks a lot
[14:53] <mike_____> :D
[14:53] <Hydrogen> traene: man flock
[14:54] <willo> timri: It looked as if nv worked, perhaps I should go back to that for a while
[14:54] <willo> timri: it's just so sloooow on the 3D stuff
[14:54] <traene> Hydrogen: No manual entry for flock found
[14:54] <Hydrogen> odd
[14:54] <Hydrogen> I have the man page
[14:54] <Hydrogen> anyways
[14:54] <timri> willo: yeah. About the locking up. I know that the asus a8n vm csm tends to lock up
[14:55] <traene> Hydrogen: anyway, I read it does not work on network drives
[14:55] <timri> willo: the northbridge gets waaaay to hot
[14:55] <lg188> WaltzingAlong my soundkonverter syas on 0%
[14:55] <willo> timri: I don't think it's a hardware problem: Feisty worked like a charm
[14:55] <timri> traene: and oplocks?
[14:56] <timri> willo: perhaps you didnt push the card that much with Feisty, just guessing
[14:56] <traene> timri: apropos oplocks -> nothing approp...
[14:56] <willo> timri: What would be pushing the card now?
[14:56] <willo> timri: The only thing that's changed is the OS
[14:57] <lg188> my siter here Wlan do'snt work
[14:57] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: rerip the albums into flac?
[14:57] <timri> willo: what nvidia card do you have, btw
[14:57] <timri> lg188: what chipset/wpa?
[14:58] <willo> timri: Nvidia Gforce 7 Series
[14:58] <willo> Don't recall the exact model number
[14:59]  * lg188 brb timri
[14:59] <timri> eagles0513875: could you post a sample from one of the wma files. To see if I can play it here (that is fair use, I hope)?
[15:00] <willo> timri: VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 SE]
[15:00] <timri> willo: thanks
[15:01] <lg188> timri dont know she use a xp
[15:01] <lg188> sow i dont get it realy
[15:01] <willo> Ok, let me restart my xserver
[15:01] <willo> brb
[15:01] <lg188> WaltzingAlong knwo somthing of xp networking ?
[15:01] <timri> lg188: In that case... this is the wrong channel
[15:02] <eagles0513875> timri: how do i post it
[15:02] <timri> willo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=566422
[15:03] <timri> willo: workaround is: use 100.14.9
[15:03] <lg188> kk witch channel  for a xp pc with networking problems
[15:03] <timri> willo: ehh, make that 100.14.09
[15:03] <eagles0513875> timri: how do i post a sample
[15:03] <willo> timri: sweet
[15:03] <timri> eagles0513875: I dont know *blush*
[15:04] <eagles0513875> lol
[15:04] <eagles0513875> timri: :(
[15:04] <timri> anyone?
[15:04] <timri> willo: you did get the link? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=566422
[15:05] <willo> timri: Yes, I did thanks
[15:05] <lg188> WaltzingAlong hey know a channel for xp networking problems ?
[15:05] <willo> timri: Scanning it now
[15:05] <traene> There seems to be no channel for this question :-(
[15:05] <timri> eagles0513875: http://pastebin.ca/
[15:05] <timri> Eagle_101: ehh, make that http://pastebin.ca/upload.php
[15:06] <Eagle_101> mmM?
[15:06] <timri> merde
[15:06] <Eagle_101> oh ok
[15:06] <timri> eagle05: http://pastebin.ca/upload.php
[15:06] <timri> something went wrong here
[15:06] <timri> brb
[15:08] <flaccid> hmm flaws in topic
[15:08] <flaccid> ah well
[15:09] <tei> Anyone know how I can create multiple ssh host keys for a single computer?
[15:09] <eagles0513875> timri: just paste bin the song
[15:09] <flaccid> why would you want to
[15:09] <tei> err, that is to say, multiple known_hosts entries for a single computer
[15:09] <timri> eagles0513875: you have a link
[15:09] <tei> because I have multiple computers on my network, all of which I get to using the same IP
[15:09] <flaccid> i thought there was just one but maybe im wrong
[15:09] <tei> but different ports
[15:10] <flaccid> that should be a dif fingerprint anyway it dosn't just go off the ip
[15:10] <tei> it keeps telling me there is a potential man in the middle attack going on, but I've checked the keys, and they are correct
[15:10] <flaccid> oh ok
[15:10] <lg188> eagles0513875 wher to find a chanel for networking in winxp ?
[15:11] <flaccid> in that case its a difference in keys likely. remove the key from known_hosts
[15:11] <tei> (I ended up having to bounce from the first computer key it loaded, from the others... but that prohibits an sftp connection, which is the main thing I'm trying to do
[15:11] <flaccid> lg188, ##windows
[15:11] <tei> well, the key for one port is correct
[15:11] <flaccid> worst case, delete known_hosts
[15:11] <tei> but it looks like it's trying to load that same key for a different port, even though that is gonna be a completely different computer
[15:11] <flaccid> how did you verify it is correct tei?
[15:11] <lg188> flaccid ty^^
[15:12] <traene> tei: better use fixed adresses in your dhcp system...?
[15:12] <flaccid> wouldn't make a dif
[15:12] <tei> I bounced from the computer that I could get on to the one I am trying to access, then catted /etc/ssh/*.pub, and matched it up
[15:12] <timri> eagles0513875: ok, this is not working
[15:13] <tei> I do you fixed addresses lan side on remote system
[15:13] <flaccid> um
[15:13] <flaccid> you do realise it goes on the known_hosts from the system you are bouncing from...
[15:13] <tei> yeah, so, computer a, b, c.... computer a is where I'm at
[15:14] <tei> b is the one it says is being man in the middled
[15:14] <flaccid> if computer a has the host and its going to b and its wrong then yeah...
[15:14] <tei> c I already have the correct ssh cert for
[15:14] <tei> I ssh to c
[15:14] <tei> then from c, ssh to b
[15:14] <flaccid> quick solution is to delete the entry
[15:14] <flaccid> a cert is not a key
[15:14] <tei> sorry, I meant key, too much multitasking
[15:15] <flaccid> if it were correct, this wouldn't occurr..
[15:15] <eagles0513875> lg188: i dunno dude
[15:15] <tei> same problem, now I can't get into computer c though
[15:15] <eagles0513875> timri: couldnt u convert one of ur songs using jetaudio to wma losless and try soundkonverter
[15:16] <tei> it thinks that all computers at a given dns entry will have the same ssh key
[15:16] <tei> it's only letting me have one at a time
[15:16] <eagles0513875> can anyone help me wihta wine related issue cuz that channel is dead
[15:16] <bazhang> any idea of the full kubuntu install size? less than 2.5 GB? More? Forgot how to check. Thanks!
[15:16] <lg188> anybody knwos some linux games ?
[15:16] <timri> eagles0513875: since jetaudio is windows only,
[15:17] <flaccid> eagles0513875, why are they on the same settings then
[15:17] <bazhang> lg188: frozen bubble, tux racer, warzone 2100, um world of warcraft will work, though not Linux..
[15:17] <timri> eagles0513875: and I cannot run wine on this laptop (unichrome locks it up)... the answer is no
[15:17] <lg188> anybody knows some Kubuntu games ?
[15:17] <spykedtomato> hey all
[15:17] <flaccid> !games
[15:17] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[15:17] <wea> les gars j'ai un probleme
[15:17] <lg188> bazhang ty^^
[15:18] <lg188> flaccid also ty^^
[15:18] <bazhang> lg188: no problem--looking for anything in particular?
[15:18] <tei> flaccid, any ideas?
[15:18] <eagles0513875> flaccid: ?
[15:18] <timri> df -h gives me 2.1GB used
[15:18] <wea> j'arrive à trouver le chat de ubuntu en français
[15:18] <lg188> bazhang nop
[15:18] <eagles0513875> flaccid: what u mean
[15:18] <timri> !fr
[15:18] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[15:18] <lg188> hallo
[15:18] <bazhang> timri: is that the install size? Thanks!
[15:18] <flaccid> you have interfaces sharing same ip, eagles0513875 ?
[15:19] <lg188> !nl
[15:19] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[15:19] <eagles0513875> flaccid: ? what u mean u can see my wifi
[15:19] <flaccid> no
[15:19] <spykedtomato> I'm having a problem with my keyboard (?) - when typing the response time sux - sometimes  up to three seconds to show the letters I typed. And sometimes the keys stick (I've tried three different keyboards, same story - other than that, my system runs FINE - help! :)
[15:19] <timri> bazhang: yeah, install+ all the crap I added later :)
[15:19] <eagles0513875> whats coming up wiht the same ip flaccid
[15:19] <flaccid> each network interface should have its own ip and mac address for fingerprinting
[15:19] <bazhang> timri: haha..cheers!
[15:19] <flaccid> dhcp can assign the same ip potentially...
[15:20] <eagles0513875> flaccid: im getting dhcp from my isp
[15:20] <flaccid> that could be the problem then if you are doing it on multiple devices
[15:20] <eagles0513875> flaccid: im only on a laptop
[15:20] <tei> can anyone help me set up multiple ssh keys for a single dns entry?
[15:20] <flaccid> what is the prob exactly eagles0513875
[15:21] <bazhang> spykedtomato: have you tried adjusting the kb in peripherals?
[15:21] <eagles0513875> flaccid: i have all my audio in wma lossless format in soundkonverter i dont have a wma encoder and i would like to use soundkonverter to convert all my audio to flac
[15:21] <eagles0513875> flaccid: for some reasoon when i try it it doesnt decode then reencode and i end up with a 0b file
[15:21] <flaccid> fux me man
[15:21] <flaccid> !codecs
[15:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[15:22] <eagles0513875> flaccid: i have the w64codecs already
[15:22] <spykedtomato> bazhang: nope - is that in the system settings?
[15:22] <eagles0513875> ffmpeg lame flac all of them
[15:22] <flaccid> im not sure if all of those components are actively supported
[15:22] <francesco_> Hi guys, I want amarok with shn file support. Is this combination possible ? I have Kubuntu 7.10 installed
[15:22] <flaccid> are you on 64bit processor, eagles0513875
[15:22] <flaccid> ?
[15:22] <Hydrogen> you can play shn files
[15:22] <Hydrogen> they just don't get added to the collection
[15:22] <bazhang> spykedtomato: in the kmenu, under peripheral is a listing for keyboard, you should be able to adjust it there, be sure to hit apply..
[15:22] <Hydrogen> because they have no metadata
[15:22] <francesco_> with amarok ?
[15:22] <Hydrogen> because they are stupid
[15:22] <eagles0513875> flaccid: ya an athlon 64 3200+ 2ghz
[15:23] <Hydrogen> You need to use the files browser
[15:23] <spykedtomato> bazhang: ummm - I can't find peripheral in the kmenu...?
[15:23] <flaccid> to be honest, i'm not sure eagles0513875. problem could be 64bit issue. its worked fine similar for me in the past on 32bit
[15:23] <eagles0513875> flaccid: i didnt have this problem in feisty 64bit
[15:24] <francesco_> If i try to open a shn files with dolphin, I have no action
[15:24] <flaccid> is this gutsy
[15:24] <flaccid> gutsy is shit...
[15:24] <eagles0513875> flaccid: ya it is gutsy
[15:24] <PriceChild> !ohmy | flaccid
[15:24] <ubotu> flaccid: Please watch your language and topic, and keep this channel family friendly.
[15:24] <flaccid> ubuntu release pretty edgy crap
[15:24]  * flaccid looks at his own language for no reason
[15:24] <WaltzingAlong> eagles0513875: perhaps set up a 32bit chroot for it
[15:24] <lg188> how to instal 'warzone 2100' ?
[15:24] <eagles0513875> flaccid: not really for me im glad they fixed the wifi and open gl issues i used to have
[15:25] <eagles0513875> WaltzingAlong: ?
[15:26] <francesco_> Sorry Hydrogen, can you please repeat ?
[15:26] <Hydrogen> you can play shn files in amarok
[15:26] <Hydrogen> using the files tab
[15:26] <Hydrogen> the files are not added to the collection tab
[15:26] <Hydrogen> because shn is a stupid format
[15:26] <bazhang> spykedtomato: sorry about that, it should be in a sub-menu of Kmenu, along with language, mouse,etc--I just replaced the kmenu with kbfx, so can't look at the moment--just look in some of those sub-menus...:}
[15:26] <lg188> how to instal 'warzone 2100' ?:'sudo aptitude search warzone 2100' ?
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> !find warzone
[15:26] <ubotu> Found: warzone2100, warzone2100-data
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> lg188 no space in the name
[15:27] <bazhang> lg188: yes
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> Its nice they included that game in the repos. :)
[15:27] <bazhang> sure is!
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install warzone2100
[15:27] <francesco_> OK I added an shn to amarok but I can haer only noise
[15:28] <bazhang> wow 392...this room is about to break!
[15:28] <Hydrogen> not likely to break
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> this is a slow day then
[15:28] <Hydrogen> 392 isn't that many
[15:28] <bazhang> haha
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> Ive seen 10x that many on #ubuntu
[15:28] <bazhang> really?
[15:28] <bazhang> 3000?
[15:28] <Hydrogen> 10x is a bit of an exageration
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> I think there was over 3000 when it got released
[15:28] <bazhang> whoa
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> just the join/names listing took a while :)
[15:29] <bazhang> :}
[15:29] <lg188> Dr_Willis bazhang ty^^
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> 3000+ really messes with nickcompletion also. :)
[15:29] <bazhang> lg188: no problem--enjoy! :}
[15:29] <bazhang> I bet hahaha
[15:30] <eagles0513875> wow
[15:30] <lg188> wat isnatling first data ? or just the oher
[15:30] <lg188> other*
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> i doubt if the order matters much. :)
[15:31] <bazhang> lg188: sudo apt-get install warzone2100 warzone2100-data  followed by your password should  do it.
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> id hope that just installing one would suggest/depend on the other.
[15:32] <xevious> coool
[15:32]  * xevious installs warzone 2100
[15:32] <lg188> bazhang cnat find the pachage
[15:32] <lg188> package*
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> Then your repos are not all enabled.
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> !info warzone2100
[15:32] <ubotu> warzone2100: 3D real time strategy game. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0~0.svn1436-1 (gutsy), package size 678 kB, installed size 1752 kB
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> Its in universe Hmm...
[15:33] <lg188> !info gutsy
[15:33] <ubotu> Package gutsy does not exist in gutsy
[15:33] <bazhang> lg188: you may want to close the terminal and open adept, then click repositories on the dropdown menu, followed by enabling the ones that are not yet enabled (canonical?)
[15:33] <WaltzingAlong> !gutsy | lg188
[15:33] <ubotu> lg188: Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Gutsy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Please use bittorrent to download if possible, see !torrents
[15:34] <lg188> ty^^
[15:36] <lg188> where finding shell scripting docu ?
[15:36] <bazhang> lg188: once you have enabled all the repositories, be sure to hit reload, then search for warzone2100.
[15:36] <Hydrogen> guugle
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> lg188 theres 100's of bash tutorials and guides out  the 'advanced bash scripting guide' is a must read
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> !info abs-guide
[15:36] <ubotu> abs-guide: The Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 4.1-1 (gutsy), package size 1074 kB, installed size 4332 kB
[15:37] <lg188> Dr_Willis ty ^^
[15:37] <lg188> bazhang wat to do ?
[15:37] <bazhang> have you enabled the repos?
[15:38] <lg188> repos in adept ? how ?
[15:38] <rickey> good morning everyone
[15:38] <bazhang> is adept open now?
[15:38] <lg188> morning ?
[15:38] <lg188> whztis you clock time ?
[15:38] <bazhang> lg188: is adept open now?
[15:38] <rickey> 1038 am
[15:38] <lg188> OWWKEY
[15:39] <Hydrogen> !info frostwire
[15:39] <ubotu> Package frostwire does not exist in gutsy
[15:39] <lg188> yes bazhang
[15:39] <Hydrogen> !find frostwire
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> !frostwire
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> !frostfire
[15:39] <Hydrogen> bawt!
[15:39] <ubotu> Package/file frostwire does not exist in gutsy
[15:39] <Hydrogen> wake up
[15:39] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[15:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about frostfire - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> its not in the repos -  as far as i know
[15:39] <lg188> bazhang yep
[15:39] <lg188> bazhang its open
[15:40] <bazhang> lg188: under the heading adept, you should see 'manage repositories'. see it?
[15:41] <bazhang> lg188: adept, edit, view, settings, help at the top?
[15:41] <lg188> wiat bazhang
[15:42] <lg188> bazhang first wat is repos ?
[15:42] <rickey> is a person has audio files on there desktop in a file to it,s self and wishes to go into openoffice and organizes a list of hyperlinks pointing to scrept files tto pen ,audio files that is, is it possable?
[15:42] <lg188> bazhang i got a NL version and mayby translate it
[15:42] <bazhang> lg188: do you see the title bar, slightly below it are those five categories?
[15:42] <Jucato> categories = menus
[15:43] <bazhang> lg188: first one on the left, second in list.
[15:43] <bazhang> oops sorry, menus
[15:43] <lg188> kk
[15:43] <lg188> bazhang kk got it
[15:43] <rickey> if anyone know,s ,can they please annwser my question
[15:44] <bazhang> click on the one marked 'manage repositories' lg188
[15:44] <lg188> bazhang wat now
[15:44] <timri> rickey: Could you not try it out? (I would say yes, but dont know about the scripting part)
[15:44] <z1pp3r> Is it somehow possible to run .net applications in linux?
[15:44] <lg188> bazhang i ame in it
[15:44] <rickey> ok i have tryed it out
[15:44] <timri> z1pp3r: Yes, with mono
[15:45] <rickey>  but the proublem is that i cant open then to play with a hyperlink
[15:45] <WaltzingAlong> !mono | z1pp3r
[15:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mono - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:45] <z1pp3r> timri, i've heard about mono, can't say it's been all good news though
[15:45] <timri> rickey: ah, ok
[15:45] <WaltzingAlong> !info mono | z1pp3r
[15:45] <ubotu> z1pp3r: mono: Mono CLI (.NET) runtime. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.4-6ubuntu6 (gutsy), package size 1 kB, installed size 28 kB
[15:45] <WaltzingAlong> z1pp3r: mono works really well processing .net apps
[15:45] <bazhang> lg188: are all of the four main ones enabled (check mark next to each)?
[15:45] <z1pp3r> WaltzingAlong, yeah? Thanks, i'll go check it out
[15:45] <timri> z1pp3r: so the answer is: yes... maybe (WinForms is afaik not yet complete)
[15:46] <z1pp3r> ok
[15:46] <z1pp3r> better than nothing
[15:46] <Jucato> !.net
[15:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about net - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:46] <Jucato> bah :P
[15:46] <lg188> wait please
[15:46] <timri> rickey: what if you save it as html page?
[15:46] <rickey> haaavent try that
[15:46] <rickey> just saved a doc
[15:46] <WaltzingAlong> z1pp3r: yes winforms is the tricky part
[15:47] <rickey> savved as doc
[15:47] <timri> WaltzingAlong: as are the 3.0 improvements
[15:47] <lg188> bazhang ? i dont get it pleas wait a minute
[15:47] <rickey> think that mit work?
[15:47] <bazhang> lg188: no hurry.
[15:48] <rickey> i am just here picking brains
[15:48] <bazhang> lg188: after you have enabled those repositories, close that second window, and then in the main adept window, hit the button to the far left, labeled 'fetch updates'.
[15:49] <WaltzingAlong> timri: right mono implements the ecma/iso standards of .net
[15:49] <timri> WaltzingAlong: It implements a whole lot more, iirc
[15:49] <WaltzingAlong> right
[15:50] <rickey> hry  timri ,where can i go to learn more about what i am trying to do ,if this dont work?
[15:51] <lg188> bazhang owkey it din noxw to enable them
[15:52] <timri> rickey: Sorry, I have no idea. By the way: why did you set it up like that in the first place?
[15:52] <lg188> bazhang :i got it
[15:53] <lg188> bazhang :now ?
[15:53] <rickey> it was alan watt  audio,s i just put them on mu dest pot in  a file  didnt realizes the that wouldnt sort of right by date ,so now there all messed up
[15:54] <rickey> on my desktop
[15:54] <lg188> bazhang: hello ?
[15:54] <rickey> so i want to build some page to put them in order
[15:55] <nosrednaekim> rickey: sorry, I didn't her your problem....
[15:55] <lg188> kk rickey
[15:55] <lg188> i hope you get good help
[15:55] <timri> rickey: Ah, I understand. By the way, I just found out, you can rightclick on the link in OOWriter, than choose open hyperlink
[15:56] <lg188> bazhang not working yet
[15:57] <lg188> WaltzingAlong can you help me befor ...i got to go eat
[15:57] <rickey> yes put the hyperlink wont open the audio file and play it , it will open the file though
[15:57] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: with?
[15:57] <lg188> WaltzingAlong warzone 2100
[15:57] <WaltzingAlong> !info warzone2100 (dapper)
[15:57] <lg188> WaltzingAlong instaling
[15:57] <ubotu> Package warzone2100 does not exist in dapper
[15:58] <timri> rickey: Well it works here (and thanks to you I am listening to PodSafeChristmasSong.mp3 .... brrr)
[15:58] <lg188> !warzone 2100
[15:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about warzone 2100 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:58] <lg188> !warzone2100
[15:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about warzone2100 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:58] <lg188> !warzone
[15:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about warzone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:58] <rickey> well life ant easy sometime
[15:58] <rickey>  sorry
[15:58] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: you can /msg ubotu !info warzone2100
[15:59] <timri> rickey: In OOWriter I used the Insert menu, then hyperlink. Then the Document category, and then the path of your audio file in the path editbox... Easy :)
[15:59] <lg188> WaltzingAlong ty ^^ for tip
[16:00] <lg188> sven_
[16:01] <lg188> i think a have to go
[16:01] <lg188> helpme please
[16:01] <lg188> warzone 2100 install
[16:01] <bazhang> lg188: have you reloaded the updates yet?
[16:01] <idiotic> hello
[16:01] <eagles0513875> lg188: sudo apt-get install warzone2100
[16:01] <eagles0513875> it works for me fine i just tried it
[16:01] <idiotic> i need something similar to k3b since k3b doesnt work
[16:02] <lg188> bazhang yes
[16:02] <timri> idiotic: What doesnt work
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> about anything similer to k3b will be a front end to the command line tools.. its best to figure out whats not working
[16:02] <bazhang> and all the repositories are enabled? lg188
[16:02] <idiotic> when i open k3b
[16:02] <idiotic> it says malformed url
[16:02] <lg188> bazhang yes
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> try k3b from the terminal
[16:03] <bazhang> using dapper? edgy/gutsy?
[16:03] <lg188> it says : e: cant find teh package
[16:03] <idiotic> feist
[16:03] <idiotic> feisty
[16:03] <lg188> bazhang dapper
[16:03] <timri> idiotic: make sure (using kmenu editor) it reads k3b -caption "%c" %i %m
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> warzone2100 is NOT in the dapper repositories - i belive
[16:03] <bazhang> is warzone in dapper repos?
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> !find warzone dapper
[16:03]  * lg188 brbr
[16:04] <ubotu> Package/file warzone does not exist in dapper
[16:04] <bazhang> oho.
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> they added a lot of new games in Gutsy
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> warzone, and RocksAndDiamonds
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> lots of others also
[16:04] <bazhang> yes. :} reason enough (to upgrade..cough cough)
[16:05] <eagles0513875> one thing im happy about opengl performance for my video card has really improved here in gutsy
[16:05]  * lg188 celybrating grandmothers birthday
[16:05] <idiotic> kio (KSycoca): WARNING: Found version 93, expecting version 94 or higher.
[16:05] <idiotic> kio (KSycoca): WARNING: Outdated database found
[16:05] <idiotic> if i run it in console
[16:06] <eagles0513875> Dr_Willis: i cant find rocks and diamonds game u mentioned
[16:07] <lg188> it wodent work i ca'nt  be here for ... 2uu
[16:07] <lg188> 2houres
[16:07] <lg188> i stay online until lmy pc goes on sntandbeuy
[16:07] <WaltzingAlong> lg188: you need to find warzone2100 another way since it is not available in the ubuntu repositories for dapper
[16:07] <bazhang> lg188: sorry couldn't help get that game, though there are some other fun ones certainly.
[16:07] <timri> idiotic: tried kbuildsycoca ?
[16:08] <lg188> bazhang WaltzingAlong ty ^^~you can stay talking to me for 2H
[16:08] <idiotic> what is that
[16:09] <lg188> send mss in private
[16:09] <lg188> or in pastebin in mail in private
[16:09] <lg188> you can shoose
[16:09] <timri> idiotic: it build (or rebuilds) your cache.
[16:10] <timri> idiotic: And since yours seems to be broken...
[16:10] <idiotic> timri thank you very much
[16:10] <idiotic> its fixed
[16:12] <lg188> avp players on kubuntu may always contact me =) bey now
[16:12] <lg188> Alien vs. Perdator 2 reqiuem
[16:13] <kyron> Grah!...medibuntu unavailable :/
[16:14] <kyron> oh...wait...gpg key...forgot that
[16:16] <nosrednaekim> :)
[16:16] <bazhang> does wesnoth do online?
[16:17] <bazhang> err battle for wesnoth.
[16:17] <Tm_T> yes
[16:20] <bazhang> thanks Tm_T!
[16:21] <ronin_> Morning everyone
[16:21] <ksivaji> !source-o-matic
[16:21] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[16:22] <ronin_> Can anyone tell me about the version of the ATI FGLRX graphics driver on the repos versus the one  on the ATI homepage?
[16:22] <ronin_> It looks like the ATI-native one is an 8.xx and the one on the repos is a 7.xx
[16:23] <Xrafa> xDD
[16:23] <Xrafa> free xDDD
[16:23] <Dr_Willis> a new ati driver just  came out last week i think
[16:24] <ronin_> I think the latest one I saw from ATI direct was on the 26th... I'm a little wary of installing it, though it looks like it has a GUI?
[16:25] <Dr_Willis> The old drivers had some sort of gui tool also i think. But i dont use ati anymore
[16:25] <Dr_Willis> !find fglrx
[16:25] <b1n42y> so much to learn about LINUX....but it still rocks!
[16:25] <ubotu> Found: fglrx-control, xorg-driver-fglrx, xorg-driver-fglrx-dev, fglrx-kernel-source
[16:25] <ronin_> Ahhh. If I'm right, this new version supports Compiz-fusion and 3d  OpenGL performance, yes?
[16:25] <Dr_Willis> !info fglrx-control
[16:25] <ubotu> fglrx-control: Control panel for the ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 8.37.6+<IP_ADDRESS>-14.9 (gutsy), package size 77 kB, installed size 348 kB
[16:26] <ronin_> !info xorg-driver-fglrx
[16:26] <ubotu> xorg-driver-fglrx: Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is optional. Version 7.1.0-8.37.6+<IP_ADDRESS>-14.9 (gutsy), package size 8357 kB, installed size 22472 kB
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> ronin_ i hear it does.
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> without the need for the xgl stuff
[16:27] <ronin_> I'm guessing that the 7.1.0 = Ubuntu version, 8.37.6 = Driver version and 2.6.... = Kernal, yes?
[16:28] <ksivaji> !pastebin
[16:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[16:31] <WaltzingAlong> fglrx ati howto wiki http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide
[16:32] <ronin_> Thank you. I'm a little nervous about doing it manually
[16:33] <WaltzingAlong> ronin_: make a backup of your current working xorg.conf (/etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[16:33] <ksivaji> !ktorrent
[16:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:33] <WaltzingAlong> !info ktorrent
[16:33] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.1-0ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 2698 kB, installed size 9932 kB
[16:35] <Dr_Willis> http://forlong.blogage.de/article/2007/10/23/fglrx-8423---finally-with-AIGLX-support
[16:35] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[16:35] <b1n42y> can anyone tell me how to access web history in konqueror.. ive tried the channel ive tried google... i hope its not a work in progress ?
[16:37] <guillermo> hi i keep geetting an error from winrar
[16:38] <martijn81> b1n42y: hit F9
[16:38] <guillermo> the utility unrar free is not in your path
[16:38] <b1n42y> cheers
[16:38] <guillermo> what to do?
[16:38] <kyron> What would be a good DVD player under kubuntu, ie: one that shows the menu and works by clicking on the options in that menu (something your grandma could use)
[16:39] <kyron> and Mplayer ain't it...believe me
[16:39] <Dr_Willis> using winrar with wine?
[16:39] <martijn81> kyron: kaffeine works nicely here
[16:39] <bazhang> kaffeine?
[16:39] <WaltzingAlong> b1n42y: it is there
[16:39] <guillermo> no no winrer
[16:40] <genii> b1n42y, Maybe look here: http://forums.scotsnewsletter.com/index.php?showtopic=11717
[16:40] <guillermo> my mistake
[16:40] <guillermo> ark
[16:40] <b1n42y> yeah i found it F9 then theres an icon on the left thanks
[16:41] <guillermo> ark gives me an error, the utility is not in yourpath, anyideas?
[16:42] <Dr_Willis> For ark to use rar stuff.. the rar utilities must be instralled
[16:43] <guillermo> Dr willis how do i do that?
[16:43] <jpatrick> !apt
[16:43] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> with the package manager tool. search for 'rar' and install teh rar tools
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> !rar
[16:43] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[16:43] <WaltzingAlong> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:43] <ubotu> kubuntu-restricted-extras: Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10 (gutsy), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> Not sure if rar is in the ubuntu-restricted-extras  package or not
[16:44] <b1n42y> martijn81: WaltzingAlong genii    thanks .... annoying when i cant do the simple things i used to....learning curve is POW.... but I'm not going back to winblows
[16:47] <armin> i have a nob queston
[16:47] <armin> i
[16:48] <jpatrick> armin: those are our speciality
[16:48] <bazhang> :}
[16:49] <bazhang> !nixternal
[16:49] <ubotu> Oh no!  The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived!  He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too!
[16:50] <dougb> does anyone know why i would be able to get online with firefox, but not konquer?
[16:50] <armin_> the sound is a bit crapy on my laptop... not always just when i play games like soldier of fortune or whatewer like that
[16:50] <jpatrick> dougb: do you have a proxy?
[16:51] <jpatrick> !sound
[16:51] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[16:51] <travis> Xevious you there?
[16:51] <armin__> thx
[16:52] <travis> anyone using the ATI HD Radeon 2600XT graphics card?
 hey, im a real life friend of Subtrnl and he said that you are using basically the same system as me and i was wondering if you might be able to help me
[16:54] <kyron> martijn81, thanks
[16:58] <genii> I saw also a fix for some games which use OpenAL (I'm not sure if Soldier of Fortune is one), which is: echo "(define devices '(oss))" > ~`/.openalrc
[17:01] <ksivaji> !nVidia
[17:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:02] <proprietarysucks> I'm having some serious trouble here. Everyone on my subnet can do this command: mount -t nfs <IP_ADDRESS>:/scratch /mnt  however when I try it I get the error: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on <IP_ADDRESS>:/scratch, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so
[17:02] <o3yx> anybody now to uninstall edubuntu..
[17:02] <proprietarysucks> this started when I updated from 704 to 710 on kubuntu
[17:02] <proprietarysucks> dmesg doesn't say anything about it..
[17:03] <WaltzingAlong> !nfs
[17:03] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[17:03] <Kr4t05> Okay, Amarok doesn't like my DAP, for some reason. I have an iAudio F2, which supports Ogg Vorbis. However, Amarok won't beleive me when I tell it so, and still refuses to sync Ogg tracks to it.
[17:03] <proprietarysucks> it worked beofre upgrading
[17:04] <Hydrogen> Kr4t05: yea, lots of people have had that problem recently.. we got a bug report about it but no one has figured out why its doing it yet
[17:05] <WaltzingAlong> so fix it
[17:05] <Hydrogen> who was that to?
[17:05] <Kr4t05> Would it have something to do with the fact that, in the format list in my player's preference's dialog, ogg is preceded by an ampersand (&)
[17:05] <proprietarysucks> oh, there it goes.. aparently updating to 710 removes nfs common
[17:05] <proprietarysucks> thanks that was easy
[17:05] <Hydrogen> Kr4t05: yes
[17:05] <Hydrogen> it would
[17:05] <WaltzingAlong> cheers!
[17:05] <Hydrogen> we arn't sure why its getting there though, so it hasn't yet been fixed
[17:06] <Kr4t05> Alright.
[17:06] <Kr4t05> I guess I'll just have to go with the MP3 feed of LAS.
[17:11] <Kr4t05> Netsplit!
[17:12] <Tm_T> Kr4t05: no there not
[17:13]  * genii sips a coffee and looks for his Nicorettes
[17:16] <ksivaji> genii hi boss
[17:16]  * genii hands ksivaji a large coffee
[17:17] <ksivaji> genii now its time to sleep
[17:17] <ksivaji> you wnat me to have coffee ?
[17:17] <Vanniarajan> ksivaji is this that person
[17:18] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan ya
[17:18] <ksivaji> genii  Vanniarajan is my friend classmate
[17:18] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan sup3kiddo is working for openmoko
[17:18] <kyron> I just installed kaffeine and I am getting : "no plugin found to handle resource (dvd:///dev/scd0)
[17:19] <ksivaji> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy
[17:19] <ksivaji> kyron what type of file you are trying to play
[17:20] <kyron> a DVD
[17:20] <ksivaji> extension
[17:20] <ksivaji> !dvd
[17:20] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[17:20] <kyron> ksivaji, it's installed...
[17:20] <kyron> do I have to reboot (heheheh)
[17:20] <ksivaji> kyron  i dont think you need to reboot
[17:20]  * genii hands Vanniarajan a coffee also
[17:20] <kyron> ksivaji, I was kidding
[17:21] <pag> kyron, do you have libxine-extracodes and/or w32codecs installed?
[17:21] <ksivaji> kyron search in google with these same pattern "no plugin found to handle resource (dvd:///dev/scd0)"
[17:21] <ksivaji> pag hi
[17:21] <pag> libxine-extracodecs that is, sorry.
[17:21] <pag> ksivaji, hey :)
[17:21] <Vanniarajan> genni thank u
[17:22] <genii> Sorry for lag... Xchat doesn't highlight channel name like Konversation did when someone is mentioning/talking to you,  takes a bit of getting used to
[17:22] <ksivaji> genii same for me also
[17:22] <ksivaji> but i have konversation
[17:22] <pag> genii, umm... iirc it did that a few versions ago?
[17:22] <Vanniarajan> genni ya it takes. i'm new to this community
[17:22] <kyron> pag, no I don't (libxine...), and it doesn't show up in synbaptic
[17:22] <kyron> synaptic
[17:23] <pag> !repos | kyron
[17:23] <ubotu> kyron: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[17:23] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan for you also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[17:23] <genii> pag: I looked briefly in Settings etc but it was not obvious where/how to set that. I can live without it for now :)
[17:23] <pag> kyron, you'll need multiverse for extracodecs and "Seveas" or medibuntu for w32codecs
[17:23] <kyron> pag, I have the repos that gave me w32, acroread and all...
[17:23] <kyron> so it would be in another one?
[17:24] <pag> kyron, multiverse.
[17:24] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan enable unive and multive
[17:24] <ksivaji> !repos
[17:24] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[17:24] <kyron> pag, ah...better edit the file direcly then
[17:24] <Vanniarajan> ksivaji i'll ask abt codecs in detail some other day
[17:24] <pag> !info libxine-extracodecs
[17:24] <ubotu> Package libxine-extracodecs does not exist in gutsy
[17:24] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan ok
[17:25] <kyron> pag, hahahahahah
[17:25]  * pag is confused - ubotu disagrees with my apt
[17:25] <ksivaji> pag genii knetworkmanager is not working in gutsy do you know anything about thsi
[17:25] <ksivaji> this *
[17:26] <pag> kyron, try libxine1-ffmpeg instead :)
[17:26] <kyron> pag heheh
[17:26]  * pag doesn't like package renames :(
[17:26] <genii> ksivaji, I've heard it has problems showing wifi connections. I have no firsthand knowledge, my adapters are all wired type.
[17:27] <ksivaji> no mine is wired connection
[17:27] <michele__> ciao
[17:27] <michele__> weila
[17:27] <michele__> tutto bene
[17:27] <michele__> qualcuno chatta con me
[17:27] <genii> pag, Someone perhaps BluesKaj was saying only revcently about the ffmpeg changes
[17:27] <kyron> éme thinks he should have installed kubuntu, take notes, and replicate the packages with Gentoo...heheheh
[17:27] <michele__> parlate italiano
[17:27] <pag> !it | michele__
[17:27] <ubotu> michele__: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[17:28] <genii> ksivaji, does command:  ifconfig      show a device besides lo device? eg: eth0 eth1 wlan0   or such
[17:29] <ksivaji> genii http://pastebin.com/f25d546e0
[17:30] <genii> back
[17:30] <genii> ksivaji, OK, reading
[17:31] <Vanniarajan> ksivaji: opera doesn't support flashplayer?
[17:31] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan no i will support
[17:32] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan google "how to install flashplayer for  opera  in ubuntu "
[17:32] <Vanniarajan> ksivaji: that's of no use. now installing firefox for such sites
[17:32] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan even in firefox you need flash plugin
[17:33] <Vanniarajan> ksivaji: i downloaded flashplayer. in installation, it said: "opera not supported"
[17:33] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan wait
[17:34] <ksivaji> genii but knetworkmanager icon show i am disconnected and dhcp is not working
[17:34] <genii> ksivaji, I am looking into the problem.
[17:34] <ksivaji> genii ok ok
[17:35] <genii> ksivaji Since ity's not one i have on my system, i need googling etc to see what might be the cause in your case :)
[17:36] <ksivaji> genii many users same problem what i have
[17:37] <abcd> Hello, when i launched amule for a first time  today, a window "Connect to remote amule" appeared. What should I type into "Connect to" box? / Sorry for my english
[17:37] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan http://my.opera.com/lounge/forums/topic.dml?id=189210
[17:39] <Vanniarajan> ksivaji: saw it
[17:39] <w8tah|class> I notice in some of the kubuntu docs / site that the KDE 4 packages are out in beta -- how stable are they and are they worth the risk for production use?
[17:39] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan is it working now
[17:39] <ksivaji> just go through that page
[17:39] <genii> ksivaji, try: sudo dhclient eth0           then attempt to run knetworkmanager by: alt-f2 then put knetworkmanager     there and see if it operates
[17:40]  * genii sips a coffee and ponders if kdesu knetworkmanager
[17:40] <Vanniarajan> ksivaji: i'll see it later. but hope it will work
[17:41] <ksivaji> genii http://pastebin.com/f7c40613c
[17:41] <genii> w8tah|class, I would not recommend for production use
[17:41] <w8tah|class> Ok - thanks
[17:42] <ksivaji> w8tah|class try ubuntu-dev
[17:42] <ksivaji> w8tah|class try #ubuntu-dev
[17:42] <Vanniarajan> ksivaji: need a help
[17:42] <genii> ksivaji, did knetworkmanager run after that?
[17:43] <w8tah|class> ksivaji ok -- thanks
[17:43] <lovre> hi
[17:44] <ksivaji> genii ya i starts as soon as i can see desktop but always shows disconnected
[17:44] <ksivaji> now too
[17:44] <lovre> can some1 help me set up an C IDE and compiler in kubuntu? or can you direct me to a channel where i can get help with this
[17:44] <genii> No immediate ideas then
[17:44] <ksivaji> i am disconnected it says" No active device"
[17:44] <ksivaji> lovre sudo apt-get install g++
[17:45] <WaltzingAlong> !info kdevelop | lovre
[17:45] <ubotu> lovre: kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.0-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 8840 kB, installed size 26992 kB
[17:45] <Minnozz> anybody knows why 'pand --connect 00:19:63:FA:62:63 --ethernet bnep0' doesn't create a network interface for my bluetooth dongle?
[17:45]  * ksivaji kate is best
[17:45] <genii> lovre, Kdevelop is a not-bad IDE. underneath the compiling is normally done by the gcc and so on installed by package build-essential
[17:45] <lovre> ksivaji: but it doesnt debug...
[17:46] <genii> My mouse is acting up. AFK a minute or so
[17:46] <lovre> genii: could i use Eclipse or something like that?
[17:46] <genii> !info eclipse
[17:46] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional.  So in kdevelop i can develop C, C++ and Python applications? That is what i need
[17:48] <Tm_T> yes
[17:48] <genii> Yes
[17:48] <Tm_T> genii: yes
[17:48]  * genii hands Tm_T a coffee
[17:48] <lovre> genii: does it have its own compilers or do i install them separatelly?
[17:48] <Tm_T> lovre: gcc is your friend
[17:48] <Tm_T> and friends
[17:49] <lovre> Tm_T: gcc is a compiler for C and C++?
[17:49] <genii> lovre, As i stated earlier, the compiler installed by package build-essential (normally gcc)
[17:49] <Tm_T> etc
[17:49] <Tm_T> lovre: there's full family of GNU compilers
[17:49] <genii> You can specifically install g++
[17:50] <lovre> so i install gcc and Kdevelop and im all ready to write code?
[17:50] <WaltzingAlong> lovre: gcc and a text editor you are ready
[17:50] <WaltzingAlong> lovre: were you expecting visual studio?
[17:51] <lovre> not really
[17:51] <Dr_willis> for developing kde apps thers some kde -dev pakcages you will proberly want also.
[17:51] <lovre> WaltzingAlong: And how do i use gcc to compile my code?
[17:51] <WaltzingAlong> man gcc
[17:51] <WaltzingAlong> lovre: may be worth learning about some of the autobuild tools
[17:51] <genii> lovre, Basically yes, Kdevelop and gcc (which is in build-essential along with some other useful build tools)
[17:52] <WaltzingAlong> could be as simple as gcc source.c
[17:54] <lovre> WaltzingAlong: i never used linux to develop anything, i just installed it for the first time a few weeks ago. So excuse my noobness... when i compile my C++ code, what is the output i get? Binary executable (no extension?), could you explain a bit. And also, can i develop applications for windows? I know i can with Python
[17:55] <Dr_willis> linux dosent need extensions
[17:55] <WaltzingAlong> lovre: then you could have a simple c++ file say hello.cpp, g++ hello.cpp   and the output would default to a.out with the exec bit set. so to run that ./a.out but of course you can rename it to anything you like
[17:55] <Dr_willis> Python is a good tool for cross platform tools. Java is also.
[17:55] <poison--> how sweet, virtualbox comes with it
[17:55] <poison--> hi Dr_Willis
[17:56] <Dr_willis> Howdies.
[17:56] <ubunturos> lovre: http://www.crasseux.com/books/ctutorial/ - one link to get started
[17:56] <poison--> supo
[17:56] <Dr_willis> about work time for me.
[17:56] <ubunturos> lovre: http://www.delorie.com/gnu/docs/gcc/gcc_toc.html - second
[17:56] <ubunturos> lovre: http://www.faqs.org/docs/learnc/index.html - three
[17:56] <ubunturos> lovre: choose your guide
[17:57] <ubunturos> lovre: I had written a complete newbie guide to using GCC, but unfortunately, that server is down, so you don't have a quickguide now :(
[17:57] <genii> Kdevelop also has extensive documentation off of the main KDE website
[18:00] <genii> http://techbase.kde.org/Development           "Programming Tutorials" etc
[18:02] <ubunturos> genii: that's specific to KDE
[18:02] <jpatrick> u
[18:02] <genii> ubunturos, A good starting point.
[18:03] <jpatrick> ubunturos: they'll all get there in the end (hopefully)
[18:03] <ubunturos> jpatrick: :)
[18:03] <ubunturos> lovre: start with C++ and python :) (you'll have a book in Help -> Scrollkeeper) for python :)
[18:04] <genii> The "development tools" part has much on kdevelop which applies to whatever you are programming with it
[18:04] <Vanniarajan> ksivaji: r u there?
[18:04]  * jpatrick still can't decide between Python and Ruby
[18:04] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan ya
[18:05] <Vanniarajan> ksivaji: every day ur work is this?
[18:05] <sven_> Hi there, I just installed aircrack, and I need to patch my bcm43xx driver.. Im doing that right now with helpl from a website (http://tinyshell.be/aircrackng/forum/index.php?topic=2045.0) but it requires a modules recompile, and then a sudo make modules_install..
[18:05] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan in this means
[18:05] <sven_> is this not going to overwrite the kernel modules that already exist?
[18:05] <ubunturos> jpatrick: watch Youtube Commercials ;)
[18:05] <sven_> as in, is this not going to cause problems like a dead machine?
[18:05] <jpatrick> ubunturos: eh?
[18:05] <ksivaji> Vanniarajan ya i will be available in this channel
[18:05] <jpatrick> pardon*
[18:06] <ubunturos> jpatrick: just kidding. There's a lot of videos floating on YouTube supporting Ruby over PHP, Python etc.
[18:06] <Vanniarajan> ksivaji: ok catch u later, leaving!
[18:06] <jpatrick> ubunturos: my problems is that there are things in each language that I like but the other doesn't have it
[18:06] <ubunturos> Vanniarajan: bye :) ;)
[18:07] <ubunturos> jpatrick: umm
[18:07] <jpatrick> and I want to stick with one of them
[18:07] <alesan> hi how do I configure the external monitor I attached to my laptop? now it merely clones the primary display
[18:07] <alesan> I heard in 7.10 there was a tool to configure everything "on the fly"
[18:08] <lovre> ubunturos: thank you. I allready programming in Python, but on Windows. And i used to programm in C++ and C, also in windows. So i hope ill get familiar with programming under linux fairly quick
[18:09] <timgelvin> something weird happened when I turned on my computer... all the fonts sizes changed to something so small I could barely read the text
[18:09] <jpatrick> lovre: it's not that difficult, you just need to learn what goes on under-the-hood
[18:10] <timgelvin> is there something I can do to change all the fonts back to the original size
[18:10] <timgelvin> I'm using 7.10
[18:15] <Kr4t05> Gar...
[18:15] <Kr4t05> Now conky hates me. :'(
[18:16] <ubunturos> lovre: yes, if you weren't too specific on tools that you used in Windows
[18:17] <lovre> ubunturos: i get an warning msgbox when starting kdevelop, just a sec, ill paste a link in a sec
[18:17] <ubunturos> lovre: I haven't tried KDevelop and I'm not much used to IDEs on Kubuntu
[18:17] <ubunturos> lovre: you might have to direct your question to #kubuntu-devel
[18:18] <lovre> ubunturos: ok, thanx
[18:18]  * ubunturos has to leave and reboot his machine
[18:18] <Kr4t05> Everytime I click on the desktop, conky disappears.
[18:19] <ksivaji> is there anyway find recently deleted file
[18:20] <ksivaji> i just deleted a file when i was trying to clear  download list in opera
[18:23] <kreib> whats up with my kubuntu 710 install , cpu is at constnantly working at 98 % !?
[18:23] <eudemus> I assume that the trash bin is too obvious a place to look, ksivaji! Other than that - no idea. Perhaps try strigi desktop search?
[18:25] <eudemus> My question: how do I set the screen resolution for KDE desktop. It appears to be correct (or at least acceptable)  in BIOS, grub, and x server, but as soon as I am logged in, my widescreen disappears. Everything in System Settings > Monitor & Display seems right, but the actual resolution I'm getting isn't. Any ideas, anyone?
[18:26] <icewaterman> i have a permission problem with my scanner. root has access to it but the user does not. there is a udev rule that should put the scanner into group "scanner" and my user is part of that group but still cannot access the scanner
[18:27] <ksivaji> eudemus its not there in trash
[18:28] <angasule> !flash
[18:28] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[18:29] <eudemus> Sorry, then, ksivaji - afsos hai I've no better idea (did you try desktop search?)
[18:30] <DaSkreech> kreib: What's making it do that?
[18:34] <kreib> thats what I want to know!
[18:34] <kreib> the gkrellm monitor says cpu is at 98% constantly
[18:35] <DaSkreech> kreib: press Ctrl+Esc or run top and tell me what process is doing that
[18:37] <eviljames> I'm using the 7.04 install cd as a live cd, is there any way to force konqueror to invoke the "get flash player" wizard?
[18:37] <FOAD> Hi.
[18:37] <FOAD> Does anyone know where konsole keeps its settings?  Every time I log in again it goes back to the defaults, even though I have saved the settings.
[18:37] <kreib> Xorg eats the most with a maximum  55 %, then kicker
[18:38] <kreib> so its somwthing wrong with the process Xorg ?
[18:38] <lovre> i have problems with more than a few applications. When i restart the application or computer, on the application startup, instead of loading its icon in the tray, the application loads its icon in a very small window in the upper left corner of my screen. I cant get it to tray in any way. It happens with konversation as i speak:........ any help with this?
[18:41] <Sanne> FOAD: I'm finding for konsole: ~/.kde/share/config/konsolerc and ~/.kde/share/apps/konsole/ (which is empty here)
[18:41] <FOAD> Sanne: ok.. lame question, but which permissions should konsolerc have?
[18:41] <Sanne> FOAD: looking...
[18:41] <lovre> what is the difference between running kdevelop from all these options in kmenu (there is kdevelop for c, for ruby etc, but when i opet, its allways the same)
[18:42] <Sanne> FOAD: ls -l konsolerc gives me: -rw------- 1 sanne sanne 870 2007-08-12 22:34 konsolerc
[18:43] <FOAD> Ok..
[18:43] <FOAD> that's not it then..
[18:44] <phnom> Anyone else here that gets graphical artifacts when using the latest fglrx-driver?
[18:44] <Sanne> FOAD: how do you save your configuration? I just did a "Settings->Save as Default" after customizing, and it works.
[18:44] <DaSkreech> kreib: No Xorg normally takes up like 20-40% of my CPU
[18:44] <DaSkreech> Kicker?
[18:44] <DaSkreech> Kicker isn't supposed to do that
[18:44] <FOAD> Sanne: That's what I did.
[18:44] <DaSkreech> lovre: All systray applications ?
[18:45] <FOAD> The troubles started after I moved /home to its own partition.
[18:45] <kreib> Xorg is at 52, kicker is at 25 %
[18:45] <DaSkreech> kreib: now you added anything to kicker?
[18:46] <DaSkreech> It's not supposed to take that much. that would likely be the problem
[18:46] <kreib> how will I know?
[18:46] <DaSkreech> Did you add anything to it?
[18:46] <DaSkreech> Applets? new systray ?
[18:46] <lovre> DaSkreech: not all, well, all but not at the same time. Sometimes its Penguin, somethimes its Clipper, sometimes Konversation, sometimes Ktorrent..... yout get my point
[18:46] <Sanne> FOAD: weird. What I did was basically set another font and turn off menubar and tabbar, and those customizations stuck. What did you change? I can try also and see if it works here (I'm on Dapper btw, not Gutsy)
[18:47] <DaSkreech> lovre: but you do have a systray though ?
[18:47] <lovre> DaSkreech: yes, and there are applications sitting in it
[18:47] <kreib> No, dont think I have added anything
[18:47] <FOAD> Just changed the scheme to black on white, but as I said it worked fine until I did the /home migration
[18:47] <DaSkreech> lovre: Well that kills my main theory :)
[18:47] <lovre> DaSkreech: :D
[18:48] <DaSkreech> kreib: try killing kicker and restarting it
[18:48] <DaSkreech> see if it grabs the same amount of CPU time
[18:48] <Sanne> FOAD: oh, yes, I also have that scheme set (forgot). If the problem is the /home migration, other programs should also have problems with their configs. Can you test that?
[18:49] <eudemus> Anybody got any suggestions about my screen resolution problems. Normally getting xorg.conf right solves things, but the problem here is that it's right prior to login and then the resolution used *after* login is incorrect.
[18:49] <ScorpKing> "Device 'dock.0' does not have a release() function, it is broken and must be fixed
[18:49] <ScorpKing> does someone know how to fix that? ^^
[18:49] <lovre> i can see all the documentation in kdevelop by contents, but i cant open most of them. Do i need to install something or is it just another bug?
[18:49] <FOAD> Sanne: yes well I also have problems with kicker.
[18:50] <kreib> yes, grabs the same after restart + plus bottom panel didnt restore properly
[18:50] <FOAD> I set the number of desktops to 1, but it keeps going back to 2 after logging in again
[18:50] <genii> FOAD, when you migrated the /home did you make sure to preserve permissions?
[18:51] <FOAD> I just re-logged in, and again konsole is white on black, although /home/dok/.kde/share/config/konsolerc has BlackonWhite
[18:51] <kreib> process kwin and kdesktop and gkrellm grabs about 20 % each, somethings not right...
[18:51] <FOAD> genii: I probably screwed up in that
[18:51] <poison--> <ScorpKing, sup
[18:52] <poison--> genii :D
[18:52] <poison--> peeps
[18:52] <FOAD> I followed http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome LITERALLY
[18:52] <ScorpKing> hiya poison--! not much. ;)
[18:52] <poison--> havin issues with virtualbox and USB atm
[18:52] <FOAD> But after rebooting some of my dirs, like the .whatever ones, were empty
[18:52] <poison--> damn
[18:52] <FOAD> so I did a regular cp after that... :/
[18:52] <poison--> think i got it tho
[18:52]  * genii hands poison a coffee
[18:52] <ksivaji> genii for me
[18:53]  * ScorpKing kicks genii..
[18:53]  * genii hands everyone a coffee!
[18:53]  * ksivaji sets a ban on ScorpKing
[18:53] <genii> :0
[18:53] <ScorpKing> lol
[18:53] <ScorpKing> ty genii. :-D
[18:54] <genii> FOAD, Anyhow, you would want to do something like: cp -pR /dirname         /destination           to recursively copy with permissions intact
[18:54] <FOAD> :/
[18:55] <FOAD> But the permissions of every dir and down to konsolerc are rw(x) for user?
[18:55]  * DaSkreech hands genii a McDonalds cup of coffee
[18:55] <The_Machine> how do i know where perl is installed?
[18:55] <genii> FOAD since your curent username seems to be dok then you might want to:   sudo chown dok:dok /home/dok
[18:55] <KalEl> The_Machine: which perl
[18:56] <The_Machine> KalEl, it isn't specific..  it just asks me where perl is installed :)
[18:56] <The_Machine> http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=905
[18:56] <lovre> i cant get kdevelop to build a hello world application, i get this error: "font-family:Monospace"><img src=warning ><
[18:56] <ScorpKing> genii: -R as well :P
[18:56] <KalEl> The_Machine: no no i meant type "which perl" in konsole :)
[18:56] <The_Machine> bastard
[18:56] <The_Machine> haha
[18:56] <lovre> sorry, this error: C compiler cannot create executables
[18:57] <ScorpKing> !build-essensial
[18:57] <FOAD> genii: I did that, but that's how the perms already were
[18:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about build-essensial - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:57] <FOAD> I.e. nothing changed.
[18:57] <ScorpKing> someone?
[18:57] <ScorpKing> ^^
[18:57] <stdin> !be
[18:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about be - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:57] <genii> FOAD, with -R will be recursive also (I omitted by mistake)
[18:57] <stdin> hmm
[18:57] <stdin> install "build-essential" :)
[18:57] <KalEl> :)
[18:58] <ScorpKing> ty stdin :D
[18:58] <ScorpKing> lovre: <stdin> install "build-essential" :)
[18:58] <lovre> ScorpKing: it is allready installed
[18:58] <KalEl> after i switched to kubuntu i've never seen the prompt for upgrading packages... i'm now beginning to wonder if the system is working correctly
[18:58] <FOAD> I'll try that.
[18:59] <_buz> KalEl: try starting adept_notifier
[18:59] <genii> FOAD, what you can do to rebuild the .kde dir etc etc is to logoff to kdm, then go to terminal by ctrl-alt-f1 and sudo rm -R /home/dok/.kde     then back to kdm with alt-f7 and login where it should rebuild and recreate whatever was in there
[19:00] <KalEl> _buz: nothing seems to happen
[19:00] <_buz> i would rename rather than remove .kde
[19:00] <stdin> !build-essential is <alias> compiling
[19:00] <FOAD> Let's try.
[19:01] <genii> FOAD, as _buz suggests you can do instead sudo mv /home/dok/.kde /home/dok/.oldkde                      or similar
[19:01] <ScorpKing> lovre: i think you need gcc or g++ or something like that. still looking..
[19:02] <stdin> build-essential installs both
[19:02] <raindog> Konqueror won't load any webpages unless I disable the cache.  What is up with that?
[19:02] <ScorpKing> raindog: using some kind of dailup?
[19:03] <raindog> ScorpKing: Yes, dialup.  :(
[19:03] <FOAD> genii: you nailed it, excellent.  Thank you.
[19:04] <ScorpKing> raindog: you need an active network connection like eth0 for dns to work in konq and some other kde apps like Akregator.
[19:05] <raindog> ScorpKing: Really?  Is this a new thing?  My previous installation worked fine without disabling the cache.
[19:05] <ScorpKing> raindog: setup eth0:1 in /etc/network/interfaces and it should be ok
[19:05] <FOAD> Another question... in Feisty, upon going into X, my external drives would be present.  This is no longer so in my (fresh) Gutsy install.  I have to do something like plug in a drive to have them all show up at once.  Can I change this?
[19:05] <lovre> ScorpKing: i installed gcc
[19:05] <raindog> ScorpKing: Thanks for the help.
[19:06] <KalEl> can i see a graphical dependency chart for my installed packages?
[19:06] <ScorpKing> raindog: there is /etc/ppp/* where all the files are kept for dailup. seems like konq doesn't use that. i'm still trying to figure out what is going on.
[19:07] <raindog> ScorpKing: Thanks.  You've been quite helpful.
[19:07] <genii> FOAD, glad to help
[19:07] <ScorpKing> raindog: adding replacedefaultroute to /etc/ppp/options seems to help as well.
[19:07] <ScorpKing> raindog: you're welcome
[19:08] <genii> FOAD, the uuid for the drives has likely changed during the installations
[19:08] <ScorpKing> lovre: is it working now?
[19:11] <idiotic> what i need to install tcl via apt-get? the name of the file i mean
[19:11] <lovre> ScorpKing: no. Im giving up for today, im too tired, worked whole day------ goto sleep
[19:11] <genii> FOAD, what you can do is output the curent uuid's as the system now sees them (when all drives are plugged in etc) by: sudo blkid       then compare the output to what is in the /etc/fstab and make changes accordingly if neccesary. Also may be the uuid in there are correct but that the option auto may now be noauto instead
[19:11] <lovre> ScorpKing: thank you for your trouble
[19:11] <aztyx> hi
[19:11] <ScorpKing> lovre: np. come back tomorrow. ;)
[19:11] <lovre> ScorpKing: :D
[19:11] <aztyx> can someone tell me how i install steam on a kubuntu wine desctop
[19:11] <idiotic> E: Package tcl has no installation candidate
[19:12] <aztyx> i know how but where do i install
[19:12] <genii> Sorry for lag, getting yanked away every 30 secs or so for work here
[19:12]  * FOAD looks.
[19:12] <FOAD> They're not in fstab at all but I don't recall them being in there before either.
[19:12] <DaSkreech> aztyx: Try in #winehq
[19:13] <FOAD> Still your idea seems logical, I'll try it.
[19:13] <DaSkreech> Hi DShepherd
[19:13] <FOAD> Thanks once again genii. :)
[19:13] <DShepherd> hey DaSkreech
[19:13] <ScorpKing> idiotic: sudo aptitude search tcl
[19:13] <KalEl> When I try to choose best server in "Manage Repositories" in adept, the dialog box just closes and nothing happens
[19:13] <DaSkreech> genii: 30 secs of work. sweet :)
[19:13] <idiotic> ScorpKing thanx i never new of aptitude
[19:13] <genii> FOAD, it is preferable to have disks mounted by uuid and not by devname eg: /dev/sdX or so because when you have multiple drives, the first plugged in becomes for instance /dev/sda1 but the uuid will remain constant
[19:14] <ScorpKing> idiotic: it's usefull. :)
[19:14] <genii> DaSkreech, Well mainly it is shuttling them up in the elevator LOL
[19:14] <FOAD> Okay.
[19:14] <idiotic> ScorpKing its exactly what i wanted :)
[19:14] <ScorpKing> lol @ genii.
[19:15] <ScorpKing> idiotic: np
[19:15] <aztyx> can someone tell me where i do install steam with wine? the automaticly directory is c:\Program Files\Steam but that can be right with kubuntu or?
[19:15] <FOAD> An UUID belongs to a drive, not a partition, right?
[19:15] <genii> FOAD, so if in /etc/fstab there is an entry like /dev/sda1 /mountpoint fstype     etc etc    the /dev part becomes replaced by: UUID="uuidstuffhere"
[19:15] <genii> FOAD, uuid can be entire drive or a subpartition also
[19:15] <ScorpKing> aztyx: look it /home/you/.wine/
[19:15] <SudoKing> except don't type "uuidstuffhere"
[19:16] <genii> SudoKing, LOL
[19:16] <SudoKing> i wonder what that would do anyway....
[19:16] <genii> FOAD, where i put uuidstuff   of course you want to replace with real UUID for that device as shown by sudo blkid
[19:16] <FOAD> Okay, because fstab has an UUID for /, but /home is only identified by /dev/sda3
[19:16] <ScorpKing> hi SudoKing
[19:16] <FOAD> Understood.
[19:17] <aztyx> plz can someone help me? sry if i sound like a n00b but its my first time linux
[19:17] <SudoKing> hi Scorpy Snorpy
[19:17] <genii> FOAD At any rate, you get the idea
[19:18] <FOAD> Yes, thank you again for your great help. :)
[19:18] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: what is your problem?
[19:18] <aztyx> can someone tell me where i do install steam with wine? the automaticly directory is c:\Program Files\Steam but that can be right with kubuntu or?
[19:18]  * ScorpKing wonders if he should b#@%slap SudoKing today..
[19:18] <aztyx> im gonn install steam with wine
[19:18]  * SudoKing thinks Scorpy is too nice to do that...
[19:18] <aztyx> but i dont know where to install it. the directory
[19:19] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: sry, im not a gamer but the wine directory is ~/.wine/drive_c/....
[19:19]  * genii sips a coffee and waits for the third triplet SudoScorp to arrive
[19:19] <aztyx> okok
[19:19]  * ScorpKing give SudoKing a cookie instead..
[19:19]  * SudoKing laughs at Genii
[19:19] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: copying from windows install?
[19:19] <aztyx> no im installing now
[19:19] <genii> SudoKing, ;)
[19:19] <aztyx> with a installer
[19:19] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: oh...
[19:19] <aztyx> why?
[19:20] <aztyx> if i copy from a windows install would it work? in case i got friend on lan
[19:20] <aztyx> im on a lan;D
[19:20] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: just wondering, because if it was copied from windows, then you C:\ == ~/.wine/drive_c
[19:20] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: google 'steam ubuntu howto'
[19:20] <aztyx> ok
[19:20] <aztyx> ty
[19:21] <DrakeJustice_> yup
[19:21] <aztyx> im new on linux but it feels like im not a newb om it
[19:21] <aztyx> on it*
[19:21] <aztyx> learning fast
[19:21] <SudoKing> well, that's because linux > windows
[19:22] <aztyx> ?
[19:22] <DaSkreech> aztyx: Welcome to Kubuntu
[19:22] <aztyx> Thank toy
[19:22] <aztyx> Thank You
[19:23] <aztyx> Were on lan and everybody whine cuse they want to play
[19:23] <aztyx> but i love kubuntu anyawy
[19:23] <aztyx> anyway*
[19:24] <SudoKing> yep
[19:25] <DaSkreech> aztyx: play what?
[19:25] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: when you get used to tux you'll love it...
[19:25]  * genii sips a coffee and waits for head-to-head lan version of TuxRacer
[19:27] <aztyx> hehe ok
[19:27] <aztyx> im playing cs
[19:27] <KalEl> When I try to choose best server in "Manage Repositories" in adept, the dialog box just closes and nothing happens
[19:27] <aztyx> daskreech: you?
[19:27] <aztyx> im on a guide now and they say to download gecko
[19:28] <DaSkreech> aztyx: Don't they have a LInux CS server ?
[19:28] <genii> KalEl, make sure you are in Administrator mode
[19:28] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: gecko is a program that you never see, that helps CS run
[19:28] <DaSkreech> genii: You too?
[19:28] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: it helps most windows programs actually... good to have it on your wine drive
[19:28] <KalEl> who is tux?
[19:29] <KalEl> !tux
[19:29] <ubotu> tux is the Linux Mascot - http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/
[19:29] <aztyx> what?
[19:29] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: check out 'google ies4linux' for internet explorer on your wine drive, that fixes alot of wine issues
[19:29] <genii> DaSkreech, I'm not playing CounterStrike LOL
[19:29] <aztyx> ok
[19:30] <aztyx> but. now on the installer i cant change from the c: directory
[19:30] <DaSkreech> genii: No there are no networked driving games on Linux
[19:30] <carwash^> Hi I'm trying to edit my acpi-scripts specially volupbtn and voldownbtn to raise and lower the volume with greater resolution. Unforunately i dan't understand how the (very simple) scripts actually control the volume. Does anybody know?
[19:30] <DaSkreech> Much less any good ones
[19:30] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: where are you trying to install it?
[19:30] <aztyx> so i cant install iwhout windows?
[19:30] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: ???
[19:30] <z1pp3r> DaSkreech, maybe kart rider runs with wine? Havent tried
[19:31] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: C:\ == ~/.wine/drive_c/
[19:31] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: thus C:\Program Files == ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files
[19:31] <genii> DaSkreech, I'm looking in my last LinuxFormat magazine where they have an interesting looking game called Thunder and Lightning ...i have not installed it yet however
[19:31] <timo> hi. I have abit of an annoying problem. I want to run flightgear in full screen mode but it seems compiz fusion is making the full screen a little transparent which means I can see all the other windows underneat
[19:31] <timo> how do I fix this?
[19:31] <DaSkreech> z1pp3r: That's still techncally not Linux :) and probably not FOSS
[19:31] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: so if the installer asked to install on the C:\ that's where it should be installed
[19:31] <genii> the url given for it is http://tnlgame.net
[19:32] <z1pp3r> DaSkreech, definately not FOSS... sorry, didnt see that being important
[19:32] <aztyx> in the c:\program files i cant see any .wine
[19:32] <aztyx> just common files and internet explorer
[19:32] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: are you on a kubuntu sys now?
[19:32] <aztyx> yes
[19:32] <aztyx> i installed on c now
[19:32] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: looking at the files through a windows program or linux program?
[19:32] <DaSkreech> z1pp3r: It's nice :)
[19:33] <aztyx> steam is for windows. so im installing from wine
[19:33] <z1pp3r> DaSkreech, it sure is, although with the new patch i get disconnected after every race =/
[19:33] <semistud2354> Can anyone help me...i just need to know now to comple mupen 64 for kubuntu
[19:33] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: gotcha... does Steam usually install to C:\Program Files\Steam?
[19:33] <semistud2354> im not exactly sure what to do
[19:34] <semistud2354> im using gutsy
[19:34] <DaSkreech> z1pp3r: otherwise I'd just throw in Need for speed
[19:34] <aztyx> yes drake
[19:34] <DaSkreech> genii: plane simulator ?
[19:34] <genii> DaSkreech, yup
[19:34] <DaSkreech> timo: Turn off Compiz? :)
[19:35] <semistud2354> does anyone know how to compile mupen64 from source code
[19:35] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: type 'Drak' then press tab... it brings up the name of the person you might be trying to speak to...
[19:35] <aztyx> ok
[19:35] <aztyx> DrakeJustice_:  hi
[19:35] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: just make sure your 'windows drive' has the Steam folder where it is usually installed and it should run fine...
[19:35] <aztyx> is it red?
[19:35] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: yup
[19:35] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: lol
[19:35] <aztyx> i dont got windows anymore
[19:36] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: good job!
[19:36] <aztyx> what?
[19:36] <DaSkreech> genii: Honestly never heard of it. It's a racing agame? And a plane simulator ?
[19:36] <aztyx> DrakeJustice_: what?
[19:36] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: linux has a sharper learning curve than windows though... so prepare for a lot of learning to switch
[19:36] <DaSkreech> DrakeJustice_: Not that much higher
[19:36] <aztyx> DrakeJustice_: ooh ok
[19:36] <genii> DaSkreech, not so much a racing game as a plane dogfighting game, you can play head-to-head
[19:37] <genii> fully open source too
[19:37] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: the IRC Channels will help a lot          admin: not yelling
[19:37] <DaSkreech> genii: Yeah I'm trying to find something to feed the NFS guys at LAN parties :)
[19:37] <ardchoille> DrakeJustice_: My 8 year old niece uses Linux on a daily basis, and hasn't really asked me much about it. If she can learn it..  :)
[19:37] <DaSkreech> genii: Now that I think about it that's a nice space actually
[19:37] <aztyx> what do you mean with not yelling?
[19:37] <genii> DaSkreech, :)
[19:37] <DrakeJustice_> ardchoille: lol, linux is pie for children
[19:38] <ScorpKing> DaSkreech: ever tried flightgear?
[19:38] <aztyx> DrakeJustice_: what do you mean with no yelling?
[19:38] <DrakeJustice_> ardchoille: its like another language to some...
[19:38] <ardchoille> DrakeJustice_: Maybe because they don't have to "unlearn" anything?
[19:38] <DaSkreech> ScorpKing: Yeah. I like Santa and all but i wish it had more helicopters
[19:38] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: capital letters usually mean that you are yelling...
[19:38] <ScorpKing> lol
[19:38] <TimS> KDE4 is not coming as deafult in 8.04?
[19:38] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: sometimes people get angry if you yell
[19:38] <DaSkreech> TimS:
[19:38] <aztyx> DrakeJustice_: aha so i shouldnt caps?
[19:38] <DaSkreech> no
[19:38] <DrakeJustice_> ardchoille: indeed... capitalism to the max
[19:38] <DaSkreech> !shout
[19:38] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[19:39] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: not unless you need to
[19:39] <ScorpKing> TimS: no. 8.04 will be LTS and KDE4 will not be stable by then
[19:39] <aztyx> okok
[19:39] <aztyx> DrakeJustice_: so back to steaminstall. how should i do if i dont got any windows?
[19:39] <DrakeJustice_> i wish 4.5 would be good by 8.04...
[19:39] <DaSkreech> ScorpKing: It will be stable
[19:40] <TimS> Yeah, I am watching the Kubuntu akademy talk
[19:40] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: do you have aim?
[19:40] <ScorpKing> DaSkreech: stable enough for LTS?
[19:40] <aztyx> DrakeJustice_: no, but i got msn .
[19:40] <DaSkreech> TimS: By default does not mean it won't be available
[19:40] <TimS> Yeah the packages will be there
[19:40] <DaSkreech> ScorpKing: It might be. however it's too new for them to bet on it
[19:40] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: i don't have msn... do you know how to join an IRC Channel?
[19:41] <aztyx> DrakeJustice_: yes i do
[19:41] <ardchoille> aztyx: you can use opete to connect to msn
[19:41] <ardchoille> *kopete
[19:41] <DrakeJustice_> aztyx: join slinux
[19:42] <DrakeJustice_> ardchoille: i don't have an msn account
[19:42] <DrakeJustice_> brb
[19:44] <GuHHH> does someone uses bacula and could help me with a simple question?
[19:45] <ScorpKing> DaSkreech: oh i see. :D
[19:45] <cyboreal_> When an external HD with a LUKS encrypted partition is plugged into Ubuntu 7.10 (GNOME), it is automatically recognized and the user is prompted for the password. Kubuntu does not do this with my drive. How do I make it work like it does on GNOME?
[19:46] <DaSkreech> I would say yes for both GuHHH. however I'm not the person
[19:46] <DaSkreech> Gutsy ships with LUKS ?
[19:46] <_buz> cyboreal_: there's a link to some hack that does this on the luks site
[19:47] <_buz> http://strony.aster.pl/tanis/kde_luks/
[19:47] <GuHHH> DaSkreech: whos?
[19:47] <_buz> cyboreal_: other than that, pmount device is your friend ;-)
[19:47] <DaSkreech> !luks
[19:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about luks - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:47] <cyboreal_> _buz, thanks!
[19:48] <DaSkreech> !ask | GuHHH
[19:48] <ubotu> GuHHH: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[19:49] <GuHHH> DaSkreech: but its a kind off-topic :)
[19:49] <DaSkreech> GuHHH: Well where would it be ontopic ?
[19:50] <GuHHH> in a channel that no one is responding
[19:50] <GuHHH> ;P
[19:52] <SudoKing> not if its relevant to what you're talking about
[19:52] <SudoKing> if i was talking about kde,
[19:52] <SudoKing> !kde
[19:52] <SudoKing> and no response :(
[19:53] <DaSkreech> GuHHH: Well toss out the question then
[19:54] <compilerwriter> !printer
[19:54] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[19:55] <carwash^> Hi I'm trying to edit my acpi-scripts specially volupbtn and voldownbtn to raise and lower the volume with greater resolution. Unforunately i dan't understand how the (very simple) scripts actually control the volume. Does anybody know?
[19:57] <ibert> Where can I edit the labelig of music-files when ripping with konquerors copy and paste?
[19:57] <carwash^> ibert: you should rip with kaudiocreator
[19:57] <GuHHH> DaSkreech: i try 'run' in the bconsole, then 'restorefiles', but it gives me error.
[19:57] <carwash^> it'll automatically get cddbinfo for your cds
[19:57] <GuHHH> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.org/6516
[19:58] <nalioth> !tell me about upgrade
[19:58] <ibert> carwash^: konqi also does it. but I want to change the artist-title name....
[19:58] <ibert> carwash^: I think I just got it that second :-)
[19:58] <carwash^> aah, i just do that in amarok
[20:00] <carwash^> btw, i have really slow ripping speeds on my sata cdrom. Is there any way to speed things up?
[20:01] <nosrednaekim> !DMA | carwash^
[20:01] <ubotu> carwash^: dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[20:02] <DaSkreech> carwash^:Konqueror shoudl get cddbinfo as well i think
[20:02] <carwash^> but hwo do i set dma on a sata drive. hdparm won't work
[20:02] <nosrednaekim> oh... hmm IDK... maybe its enabled by default since they are newer?
[20:03] <carwash^> and, the drive is fast enough to give me around 6megabytes/s whencopying from a burned dvd
[20:03] <DaSkreech> genii: new relase tooday :)
[20:05] <compilerwriter> I have a 2Wire router and a printer connected to an XP machine that I need to print to can anyone help me get this done?
[20:06] <ibert> compilerwriter: smb:///NameOfXPMachine
[20:07] <genii> carwash^, You might find some useful stuff about the acpi/volup/voldown stuff at these places (one is Panasonic-centric but shows the /proc path the brightness values are stored in etc) http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-497052.html and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/16424
[20:08] <genii> DaSkreech, New release of Konq?
[20:08] <DaSkreech> genii: TnL
[20:08] <compilerwriter> Thanks ibert
[20:08] <genii> DaSkreech, Ah Ok :) I'll have to check it out when i get home
[20:09] <genii> (this box would choke horrendously on anything)
[20:09] <carwash^> genii: thanks, i'll look in to it
[20:10] <genii> carwash^, np
[20:10] <Thylio> How do i watch divx videos in firefox?
[20:10] <vaidas> umm... what do I do to make ark be able to use rar files?
[20:10] <ReMiiRuru> In tcsh, can I somehow check if argument is a number?
[20:11] <DrakeJustice_> Thylio: embed mplayer
[20:11] <DrakeJustice_> woot
[20:11] <Daryll> guys: is it possible to delete all panels from KDE?
[20:11] <Daryll> or there have to be 1 all the time ?
[20:11] <Thylio> vaidas: install winrar for linux, www.rarlab.com ore somthing
[20:11] <DrakeJustice_> Daryll: make it autohide but super long delay on popping back up
[20:11] <Daryll> ok
[20:12] <Thylio> DrakeJustice_ :   embed?  I have installed mplayer. it dont work anyways
[20:12] <Ragol> hi, I have problem with upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10.
[20:12] <Daryll> other question, how do i let the last panel look like a dock ?
[20:12] <DrakeJustice_> Thylio: mplayer doesn't work?
[20:12] <nosrednaekim> Daryll: or you can just hide it with a super small button
[20:12] <Ragol> when I run adept_manager, it finds the new version, downloads packages and then quits
[20:12] <Ragol> it doesn't say anything
[20:12] <DrakeJustice_> Thylio: you need the plugins package... google it
[20:12] <Ragol> I even tried to run it from console to get more error messages, but nothing
[20:12] <Thylio> DrakeJustice_ :  okay
[20:12] <Ragol> any ideas what else could I try?
[20:12] <Black_Monkey> hi, I'm having an odd problem - every time I try to load amarok, it doesn't load, and kopete freezes - though it unfreezes if I kill amarokapp. Any ideas?
[20:13] <Ragol> it isn't probably wise to just run aptitude upgrade?
[20:13] <nosrednaekim> Black_Monkey: how about starting it when kopete isn't started?
[20:14] <Black_Monkey> nosrednaekim: still doesn't run
[20:14] <Black_Monkey> oh, and katapult freezes too
[20:14] <nosrednaekim> Black_Monkey: whats it say if you run amarok from konsole?
[20:14] <Thylio> DrakeJustice_ :  cant find anyting
[20:15] <Black_Monkey> nosrednaekim: doesn't say anything
[20:15] <nosrednaekim> Black_Monkey: hmm.... i've had that happen before.
[20:15] <genii> Ragol, generally when doing a dist-upgrade I've found most success by commandline apt-get method.eg:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:16] <Ragol> genii: yep, but for some upgrade it was not a suggested method
[20:16] <Daryll> guys: how can i make a panel look like mac osx-dock ?
[20:16] <Ragol> because apt-get couldn't handle something in that upgrade
[20:16] <compilerwriter> ibert Ive not done something correctly
[20:16] <Black_Monkey> nosrednaekim: does anything except restarting solve it?
[20:16] <GS3User007_> !ntfs
[20:16] <nosrednaekim> Daryll: get kooldock
[20:16] <ubotu> ntfs is To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions .  For NTFS write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[20:16] <Ragol> and I wouldn't want to try if it works now, because this is my primary computer ;)
[20:16] <Daryll> nosrednaekim:  ok i search for it thx
[20:17] <nosrednaekim> Black_Monkey: do an apt-get purge amarok and then reinstall it
[20:17] <DrakeJustice_> Thylio: join slinux
[20:17] <Black_Monkey> kk
[20:19] <phnom> w
[20:19] <Black_Monkey> nosrednaekim: nope, still does the same thing
[20:20] <Daryll> what to do with a bzip2 file ?
[20:20] <nosrednaekim> Black_Monkey: hummm check your kopete settings, do you have the media plugin enabled?
[20:20] <travis> Xevious are you around?
[20:20] <DrakeJustice_> Daryll: cd /path/to/bzip; tar -jxf ./file.tar.bz2
[20:21] <Black_Monkey> yeah, but it crashed when kopete wasn't running...
[20:21] <travis> anyone using ati?
[20:21] <nosrednaekim> Black_Monkey: but was katapult running?
[20:21] <nosrednaekim> travis: here
[20:21] <Black_Monkey> hm, actually, katapult catalogues amarok files
[20:21] <Black_Monkey> yeah
[20:21] <DrakeJustice_> travis: unfortunately
[20:22] <Daryll> it is opened by Ark, but how to 'install'  it ?
[20:22] <hExDj> how do I know if there are drivers available for my computer in Ubuntu?
[20:22] <DrakeJustice_> Daryll: howto install bzip2? lol... try KConfigure, KSource, or other programs for that first
[20:22] <travis> nosrednaekim: how you build the driver package for it?
[20:22] <carwash^> hExDj: just run the live cd. ifit works you're fine
[20:22] <DrakeJustice_> Daryll: if you need more than those apps come back and we'll command line it
[20:23] <Black_Monkey> hm, ok, I killed katapult, disabled the kopete media plugin... kopete's stopped freezing, but amarok's still not running - must be another program...
[20:23] <Daryll> DrakeJustice_: ok thx :)
[20:23] <DrakeJustice_> yup
[20:23] <Ragol> oh well, I'm just plain upgrading it, we'll see how it will go
[20:23] <carwash^> Black_Monkey: try killingartsd, might be a soundserver problem
[20:23] <nosrednaekim> travis: I didn't, but are you tlking about the 8.42driver?
[20:23] <travis> drakejustice: ya
[20:24] <travis> drakejustice: i have the HD Radeon 2600XT im trying to get working
[20:24] <Black_Monkey> carwash^: nope, still not running
[20:24] <DrakeJustice_> travis: you tried the program Envy? google it
[20:24] <DrakeJustice_> nosrednaekim: 8.42 is not worth trying
[20:24] <travis> drakejustice: just google Envy?
[20:25] <nosrednaekim> !envy
[20:25] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[20:25] <carwash^> why would one want to use envy instead of apt-get nvidia-new?
[20:25] <DrakeJustice_> travis: yeah 'Envy ubuntu' or something of that nature
[20:25] <nosrednaekim> do not use envy...
[20:25] <nosrednaekim> DrakeJustice_: 8.42 is working great here!
[20:25] <DrakeJustice_> nosrednaekim: Envy is good now, it doesn't hack up restricted anymore...
[20:26] <nosrednaekim> 0.o
[20:26] <travis> nosrednaekim: what ati car you got?
[20:26] <travis> nosrednaekim: what ati card even lol you got?
[20:26] <nosrednaekim> travis: Xpress1100 .... crappy mobile integrated
[20:26] <DrakeJustice_> nosrednaekim: 8.42 is good for power cards but for regular ppl 8.42, and AIGLX is not good from an XGL setup...
[20:26] <GS3User007_> i used the script specified by !ntfs, but it says my disks are mounted for read-only access. is it possible to allow read AND write access?
[20:26] <nosrednaekim> well... maybe not for you... but i'm likin' it
[20:27] <DrakeJustice_> nosrednaekim: i wish i had a better card... :(
[20:27] <nosrednaekim> GS3User007_: yeah, so into system settings->advanced-> disks and partitions
[20:27] <DrakeJustice_> my primary is an 200m... :(((((
[20:27] <nosrednaekim> DrakeJustice_: thats pretty much my card right there..
[20:28] <DrakeJustice_> nosrednaekim: huh?
[20:28] <DrakeJustice_> nosrednaekim: AIGLX did not go down with this box... at all...
[20:28] <nosrednaekim> DrakeJustice_: a Xpress1100 is a 200m with support for turion X2's
[20:28] <nosrednaekim> DrakeJustice_: yeah... I know another guy who has that card and it didn't work for him either
[20:29] <DrakeJustice_> nosrednaekim: hmm... how did you pray tell?
[20:29] <DrakeJustice_> oh... crap
[20:29] <DrakeJustice_> nosrednaekim: nm... :(
[20:29] <Black_Monkey> any idea how I can find out which apps might be using amarok? :/
[20:30] <DrakeJustice_> Black_Monkey: i so wish i remembered that command...
[20:30] <DrakeJustice_> !lsof
[20:30] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[20:30] <DrakeJustice_> rr
[20:30] <Fpkt> bonjour
[20:30] <alibobaevich> Hi all. Is it possible to switch file manager from Dolphin back to Konqueror?
[20:30] <nosrednaekim> Black_Monkey: probably a dbus command
[20:30] <nosrednaekim> alibobaevich: yeah,but I forget how to do it
[20:30] <nosrednaekim> (and wish I remembered)
[20:30] <nosrednaekim> !dolphin
[20:31] <ubotu> dolphin is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror → Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[20:31] <Sertraline> Does anyone happen to know how to reflash a BIOS? I'm having serious problems with both my hardware and my software, and I believe it has to do with the fact the BIOS update utility crashed mid-update :S
[20:31] <nosrednaekim> ah!
[20:31] <alibobaevich> nosrednaekim, Thank you!
[20:32] <DrakeJustice_> nosrednaekim: lsof | grep amarok... all libs and bins attached to it in runtime...
[20:33] <nosrednaekim> Black_Monkey: ^^
[20:33] <Black_Monkey> ah, thanks
[20:33] <Black_Monkey> that's a lot of results O_o
[20:34] <nosrednaekim> :)
[20:34] <DrakeJustice_> :)
[20:34] <Black_Monkey> I'd meant which other programs use amarok as katapult does for indexing amarok files, and kopete does for the now playing script :/
[20:35] <DrakeJustice_> ???
[20:36] <DrakeJustice_> wtf is an amarok file, audio/* (mime) maybe? grok?
[20:36] <DrakeJustice_> oops!
[20:36] <DrakeJustice_> admin:sry
[20:37] <DrakeJustice_> idk, grok amarok src...
[20:38] <olavxxx> has anyone tried the linuxmce?
[20:38] <DrakeJustice_> olavxxx: just another linux...
[20:39] <nosrednaekim> olavxxx: nope... but I hear its really nice
[20:39] <olavxxx> I saw a vid of it, comparing it to windowsMCE
[20:39] <DrakeJustice_> Black_Monkey: kdcop + browsing... lol
[20:39] <olavxxx> downloading the disc atm.. but I get crappy 112kb/s :S
[20:39] <b1n42y> ahh installed newest version of xchat no more join leave msgs
[20:39] <pumpkinn> hey uys i restarted my kubuntu and not started in text mode, and afther sudo start x i get a error message
[20:39] <DrakeJustice_> olavxxx: it is... except they don't have an underlying foundation... they are a linux+hack, kinda like tivo... lol
[20:39] <olavxxx> I must say the kubuntu was way better than ydl on ps3 :P
[20:40] <Black_Monkey> DrakeJustice_: sorry, what's that? :S
[20:40] <DrakeJustice_> olavxxx: lol... indeed... everything is still good on a ps3
[20:40] <olavxxx> I hope someone cracks the hypervisor
[20:40] <olavxxx> then it would be a cool workstation too
[20:41] <DrakeJustice_> Black_Monkey: weren't you looking for what used amarok? kdcop lets you browse all of the open programs dcop 'registries'
[20:41] <Black_Monkey> oh ok, thanks
[20:41] <olavxxx> how can I check used resources in the kubuntu? 7.04
[20:41] <DrakeJustice_> olavxxx: ksysguard > resources tab
[20:42] <olavxxx> ah, thx
[20:42] <DrakeJustice_> olavxxx: ksysguard > system load wutev
[20:42] <olavxxx> I think the install could have been a bit better fornoobs :p
[20:42] <olavxxx> I made a 2gb swap partiotion, is that good?
[20:42] <olavxxx> it said atleast 150mb or something
[20:42] <olavxxx> so I made the swap in the beginning of the drive, 2gb
[20:43] <b1n42y> depends on your memory i *think*
[20:43] <olavxxx> the hw is kindof crappy.. 2.54ghz p4, 533fsb, 2 x 512 pc3200
[20:43] <b1n42y> but that could be XP talking
[20:43] <DrakeJustice_> olavxxx: 2gb is mostly wasteful... unless you use 'blender' or game or something heavy...
[20:43] <olavxxx> XP as in experience, or as in Windows xp?
[20:43] <b1n42y> win
[20:44] <olavxxx> I'll just try the mediacenter..
[20:44] <olavxxx> lol
[20:44] <b1n42y> huh
[20:44] <olavxxx> I have another pc for gaming
[20:44] <b1n42y> i hope you arent going to install winblows
[20:44] <olavxxx> this one only has gf fx5200 fanless
[20:44] <olavxxx> the other one uses xp :P
[20:44] <olavxxx> atleast its not vista?
[20:45] <Les_Caesars> how do I change the key shortcut for lowering my volume?
[20:45] <b1n42y> yes as far as games it is probably advisable to have winblows somewhere
[20:45] <nzk> Hey, my laptop supports 1920x1200, but Kubuntu will only use 1024x768, which is hideous. How do I get it to use 1920x1200?
[20:45] <nosrednaekim> Les_Caesars: kmix->global shortcuts
[20:45] <Les_Caesars> thanks
[20:45] <nosrednaekim> nzk: what graphics card?
[20:46] <nzk> nosrednaekim: ATI Mobility Radeon 9800 Pro
[20:46] <nzk> I got fglrx.
[20:46] <nosrednaekim> nzk: oh... ok
[20:46] <DrakeJustice_> fancy fglrxer's
[20:46] <TheGateKeeper> nzk: modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:46] <nzk> That's how I broke it, TheGateKeeper
[20:46] <olavxxx> b1n42y:: yes.. I only game the different valve games (most of them) and some battlefield2, etc. so I guess I "have" to have a windows boot...
[20:46] <nosrednaekim> nzk: umm, run a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[20:46] <nzk> nosrednaekim: ...
[20:47] <nzk> That led to around 12 or 13 reformats for me.
[20:47] <nzk> That's the devil command. I might as well rm -rf /
[20:47] <TheGateKeeper> nzk: make a backup of it first
[20:47] <nosrednaekim> uhhh really? that always rescues me :)
[20:47] <nzk> I did that the last 11 or 12 times.
[20:48] <nosrednaekim> nzk: ok.... did you try the screens and graphics tool in the control center?
[20:48] <TheGateKeeper> nzk: let get this straight, you messed up xorg.conf so you reinstalled?
[20:48] <Les_Caesars> nosrednaekim: The configuration is still the same as before, even though I remapped it. Do I need to restart X before changes take effect, or is there a less session-closing way of doing that?
[20:48] <nosrednaekim> Les_Caesars: what did you remap it to?
[20:48] <Les_Caesars> X86RaiseVolume
[20:49] <olavxxx> I love the GUI in the kubuntu
[20:49] <olavxxx> also everything works :)
[20:49] <Les_Caesars> lower volume works just fine. But raisevolume doesn't change the volume. Key's recognized just fine though
[20:49] <nzk> TheGateKeeper: Yes, I got tired after asking on IRC for weeks and making dozens of topics on every Linux help board imaginable.
[20:49] <nzk> So it takes less time to reformat.
[20:49] <JohnFlux> Is there a hardware compatibility list thing for ubuntu?
[20:49] <JohnFlux> so I can check if hardware will work before I buy it
[20:49] <olavxxx> linuxcompatible.com or something
[20:49] <Firetech> Why is kbluetoothd (the binary at least)gone in gutsy? :S
[20:49] <olavxxx> I seem to recall reading earlier today
[20:49] <JohnFlux> In particular I want to know if the sound card:    Realtek ALC883  will work :)
[20:49] <osium> how do i enable desktop effects on kubuntu gutsy? am using dell inspiron 1420
[20:50] <JohnFlux> olavxxx: thanks
[20:50] <olavxxx> maybe it was org
[20:50] <TheGateKeeper> nzk: all you have to do if copy your backup & start again lol
[20:50] <JohnFlux> olavxxx: good memory :)
[20:50] <nosrednaekim> Les_Caesars: then yes, you need to retsart X
[20:50] <nosrednaekim> !hardware
[20:50] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[20:50] <olavxxx> JohnFlux: lol, yeah.. since I didnt even visit the page :P
[20:50] <Les_Caesars> nosrednaekim: darn, ok then. Thanks
[20:51] <Black_Monkey> osium: you need to install compiz, they're not installed by default on kubuntu
[20:51] <JohnFlux> olavxxx: it didn't find it though :-D
[20:51] <pumpkinn> hey the logout buton don't works
[20:51] <nzk> TheGateKeeper: That didn't work when I did it.
[20:51] <olavxxx> I was actually installing the xp2k5 mce.. (since I have a legal key and all), but when I got impatient and removed the bluetooth dongle during install, it would not respond when I plugged it in later, during the install process... SO I thought: **** it, I'll try another linux distro.
[20:51] <nosrednaekim> :)
[20:52] <olavxxx> JohnFlux: http://www.linuxcompatible.org/
[20:52] <nosrednaekim> JohnFlux: I have that chip, and it works fine here.
[20:52] <Black_Monkey> osium: if you look on the ubuntuforums, there's a bunch of guides to installing compiz
[20:52] <JohnFlux> nosrednaekim: thanks
[20:52] <b1n42y> osium, plus ive been told that the pager and compiz dont work to well so id go with gnome like i have
[20:52] <osium> Black_Mo?
[20:53] <JohnFlux> olavxxx: sorry I meant I went there, searched for my hardware, and didn't find it
[20:53] <TheGateKeeper> nzk: sheesh cause it works, I even copied one from another distro cos the one I had was such a mess
[20:53] <osium> ok thanx
[20:53] <olavxxx> JohnFlux: ah, ok..
[20:54] <olavxxx> JohnFlux: this means you can post there, when you figure out that it works.
[20:54] <hamadooo> anyone can help with upgrading
[20:54] <Les_Caesar> nosrednaekim: well, it made more problems for me :(
[20:54] <Les_Caesar> nosrednaekim: it works just as it did before, only now I don't get a popup showing the volume. Raise volume still aint working.
[20:55] <Les_Caesar> Oh, and my drives don't mount on login. But that's a different problem.
[20:55] <KalEl> how do i remove stuffs that got installed as dependencies of a metapackage?
[20:55] <nosrednaekim> Les_Caesar: like.....
[20:56] <hamadooo> i got an error while im trying to update my ubuntu
[20:57] <nosrednaekim> hamadooo: what is the error
[20:57] <hamadooo> failed to fetch ........
[20:57] <DaSkreech> !rar
[20:57] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[20:57] <hamadooo> ..... = site
[20:57] <b1n42y> sounds like network issues to me retry?
[20:57] <hamadooo> yes i think that to
[20:57] <hamadooo> how to solve this
[20:58] <DrakeJustice_> hamadooo: google the filename then download it from somewhere else
[20:58] <nosrednaekim> hamadooo: restart the upgrade?
[20:58] <b1n42y> just re run whatever u where trying to d/l thats what ive done in the past
[20:58] <Les_Caesar> nosrednaekim: ok. I reassigned the shortcuts. Now lower volume is supposed to raise volume, and vise versa.
[20:58] <hamadooo> i did restart 4 times
[20:58] <Les_Caesar> The key is recognized, but does not activate any global shortcuts
[20:58] <hamadooo> ok i will google now
[20:58] <KalEl> when you apt-get install unrar (the non-free one), it is used by the k archive manager as well
[20:58] <hamadooo> thanx
[20:58] <b1n42y> ahh then try drakejustice comment
[20:58] <nosrednaekim> Les_Caesar: did you restart X?I don't mean log out...I mean press ctrl+alt+bckspace upon logging out.
[20:59] <DrakeJustice_> huh?
[20:59] <b1n42y> all good maye
[20:59] <b1n42y> tmate
[20:59] <Les_Caesar> nosrednaekim: yes. Exactly that. Control alt backspace
[20:59] <nosrednaekim> odd
[21:00] <b1n42y> DrakeJustice_, just saying he should try your suggestion if he has retried d/l
[21:00] <eagles0513875> any1 know much about one cuz in the wine channel its dead
[21:00] <eudemus> OK, trying one last time ...
[21:00] <DrakeJustice_> oh
[21:00] <eudemus> My screen resolution is correct in x server, but wrong when I log onto KDM. How can I correct this? I have a widescreen TFT 1280 x 800.
[21:01] <julius> !autostart
[21:01] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[21:01] <nosrednaekim> eudemus: ah..... that problem ussually arises when you have used a smaller resolution/moitor
[21:01] <julius> !ping
[21:01] <ubotu> pong
[21:01] <Les_Caesar> !automount
[21:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:01] <Les_Caesar> !kickoff
[21:01] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[21:01] <nosrednaekim> Les_Caesar: for the heck of it.... do a reboot
[21:02] <Les_Caesar> nosrednaekim: ok.
[21:02] <eudemus> nosrednaekim: what causes it? how do I correct it?
[21:03] <nosrednaekim> eudemus: I know the answer to neither of those qustions, does this happen every reboot?
[21:05] <DrakeJustice_> eudemus: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm ??
[21:05] <DrakeJustice_> i dunno
[21:05] <ScorpKing> eudemus: maybe it's the VGA=? setting in /boot/grub/menu.lst that's causing it. does usplash display ok?
[21:06] <eudemus> DrakeJustice: yes, could be. But presumably that's a wizard that basically populates a file somewhere, like dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? No?
[21:07] <ScorpKing> eudemus: nah, it's not grub. i remember fixing it on my girlfriends computer. the problem is in xorg.conf
[21:07] <Les_Caesar> nosrednaekim: all of my global shortcuts are fouled up. Now "Run Command" doesn't work
[21:07] <eudemus> ScorpKing: there was a problem with both of those, but I resolved it with some help from ubuntuforums (shouldn't that be "fora"?). Now the remaining problem is after kde login.
[21:08] <nosrednaekim> Les_Caesar: ouch...
[21:08] <Les_Caesar> nosrednaekim: ok. I got "Run command" to work
[21:08] <ScorpKing> eudemus: so during boot it's ok? just after logging in has a problem right?
[21:08] <eudemus> ScorpKing: nope. For sure it's taken ages to be able to get the xorg.conf right, but the Gutsy tricks in System Settings > Display & Monitor sorted it - very clever, in fact! Sorted it in a way that dpkg-reconfigure never could!
[21:08] <eudemus> ScorpKing: exactly. It's fine right up until I log in.
[21:10] <ScorpKing> eudemus: i know that it's possible to set different resolutions for each user so maybe there is a local xorg.conf file somewhere.
[21:11] <Ahmuck> i've broke aptitude adept.  how do i fix?
[21:11] <KalEl> how can i enable ubuntu like window effects in kubuntu?
[21:11] <eudemus> ScorpKing: do you think that the issue is with x then? I'll do a search.
[21:11] <ScorpKing> !aptfix
[21:11] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[21:11] <ScorpKing> eudemus: i think so. searching...
[21:11] <scheater5> This may not be the place for this question, but I got no help at #damnsmalllinux - does anyone know why a computer that supports usb-fdd booting wouldn't boot a working DamnSmallLinux pendrive?
[21:12] <Ahmuck> E: I wasn't able to locate a file for the libdvdread3 package. This might mean y                                                                ou need to manually fix this package. (due to missing arch)
[21:12] <Les_Caesar> is there a way I can make KDE mount my hard drives without editing fstab?
[21:12] <intExDK> When I try to install Java Runtime Environment from Adept Manager, it says "There was an error committing changes..." Anybody who can help?
[21:12] <KalEl> scheater5, you could also try #linuxhelp
[21:12] <Ahmuck> intExDK: yes, i've broke my apt with the same package
[21:12] <ScorpKing> scheater5: or ##linux
[21:13] <scheater5> KalEl: in what server?
[21:13] <KalEl> scheater5, why here itself
[21:13] <nosrednaekim> Les_Caesar: system settings-> advanced-> disk and partitions
[21:13] <scheater5> Thanks
[21:13] <skole> Hi all! I have a problem getting my spell check to work in open office writer after I updated my kubuntu. How to fix that?
[21:13] <KalEl> scheater5, by here i mean irc.freenode.org
[21:14] <ScorpKing> eudemus: i see /home/me/.kde/share/config/displayconfigrc
[21:14] <KalEl> how can i enable desktop effects in kubuntu?
[21:14] <ScorpKing> !compiz | KalEl
[21:14] <ubotu> KalEl: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[21:16] <skole> Hi all! I have a problem getting my spell check to work in open office writer after I updated my kubuntu. How to fix that?
[21:17] <eudemus> ScorpKing: that's not it. There's also systemsettingsrc, which isn't it either. Both contain a screen resolution, but since boht are correct on my system, it can't be them.
[21:17] <KalEl> oh it doesn't ship with kubuntu
[21:17] <DaSkreech> !games
[21:17] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[21:18] <ScorpKing> eudemus: ok. still looking..
[21:19] <DaSkreech> JohnFlux: ping
[21:19] <eudemus> ScorpKing: I found something called xorg.conf_look in /home/user/ but I think it might have been something I put there for my own reference when I was fiddlign around. Name seems a bit suspicious.
[21:19] <Merritt> Okay, can someone tell me how to set my nick? It keeps defaulting to my computer user name, it's annoying.
[21:19] <ScorpKing> eudemus: yeah, that's not it.
[21:19] <JohnFlux> DaSkreech: yo
[21:20] <JohnFlux> Merritt: Settings->Identities
[21:20] <soon> I need help with my network - can anyone suggest a good channel?
[21:20] <Merritt> JohnFlux: Thank you!
[21:21] <b0nn> so Ive just upgraded from dapper->edgy, and my laptop will now not boot
[21:21] <KalEl> how can i set https:// links to open in firefox instead of konqueror?
[21:21] <b0nn> it hangs at setting up console font and keymap
[21:22] <soon> KalEl try right clicking a link, choose the app to open it with and flag 'Use this app as standard'
[21:22] <b0nn> er sorry edgy->feisty
[21:22] <KalEl> ahh i see thanks
[21:22] <soon> np - try it out
[21:23] <KalEl> i found this: http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS8745257437.html - "I personally just encourage people to switch to KDE." - Linus Torvalds (Linux founder)
[21:23] <KalEl> this is nice :)
[21:24] <Merritt> Yeah, that's nice. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside, you know? Good KDE, good. *pets*
[21:24] <ScorpKing> eudemus: i don't see anything. :( could i have a look at your xorg.conf?
[21:25] <Merritt> The ONE thing I like about GNOME: The ability to make icons on your desktop different sizes at will. I wish I could do that with KDE.
[21:25] <ScorpKing> hmm.. that is nice.
[21:25] <eudemus> ScorpKing: how do I send it to you? I'm using Konversation .....
[21:25] <ScorpKing> !paste | eudemus
[21:26] <ubotu> eudemus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[21:26] <ScorpKing> there ^
[21:26] <b1n42y> damn i cant thank militant potato..... thanks militant wherever you are in cyberspace
[21:26] <emilsedgh> Merritt: you could do that with KDE4
[21:26] <soon> Any suggestions: IRC channel where I can get networking woes help
[21:26] <b1n42y> soon, 1 sec
[21:26] <ScorpKing> soon: right here.
[21:26] <Merritt> emilsedgh: I was hoping they'd add that in v4, but it won't be out for a while yet. Really looking forward to it though, KDE4 looks real nice :)
[21:27] <b1n42y> lol was going to look for appropraite channel ;p
[21:27] <ScorpKing> soon: explain your problem. we all use networks here.
[21:27] <Merritt> One would hope.
[21:27] <ScorpKing> lol
[21:28] <eudemus> ScorpKing: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42738/
[21:28] <soon> I play DoD on my XP and every now and then (30-90 minutes or so) I loose the connection for 15-20 seconds (also loose my score :-) ... also my downspeed should be 8 Mb, it is actually 5 Mb
[21:28] <soon> My ISP says line is okay
[21:28] <Merritt> Well, my dad FINALLY does. He got highspeed last week... after waiting for 7 years. ^_^ lmao
[21:28] <emilsedgh> Merritt: yes it does
[21:28] <soon> I have a Linksys router (setup is okay as far as I can see)
[21:28] <b1n42y> this will be good happens to me ..but im pretty sure mine is line
[21:28] <soon> wireless and wires all mixed up  -  but all of it dhcp
[21:29] <soon> What I need really, is to get some info on what happens when I loose connection
[21:29] <soon> somekinda app, that will log or monitor or what have you
[21:29] <b1n42y> i have the same problem soon
[21:29] <Merritt> soon: Personally (the girl with a really bad router) I find wireless often chokes the speed, even for the hard lines. :)
[21:30] <b1n42y> soon, try isolating if possible
[21:30] <soon> This seems to be unrelated to the other activity (if any) on my lan
[21:30] <b1n42y> soon, i have tried just hard lines and i get same problem but maybe in soons case it is wireless
[21:30] <soon> (it happens post-midnight when the wife is a sleep :-)
[21:30] <ScorpKing> soon: the wired and wireless network might have different gateways and dns which will help you loos your connection. lol
[21:31] <ScorpKing> loose*
[21:31] <b1n42y> wow!
[21:31] <b1n42y> lose
[21:31] <kudar> soon: pics of wife?
[21:31] <ardchoille> My system isn't popping up a window with optins when I put in a dvd movie. How do I get that functionality?
[21:31]  * ScorpKing can't spell..
[21:31] <b1n42y> all gid
[21:31] <soon> hmm .. I can check the router setup again - re. the wired/wireless thing ....
[21:32] <b1n42y> ScorpKing, how to check this
[21:32] <cristian> How install a theme in KDE 3.5.8 from http://www.kde-look.org??
[21:33] <b1n42y> !kde themes
[21:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde themes - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:33] <b1n42y> meh
[21:33] <b1n42y> !kde theme
[21:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde theme - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:33] <ScorpKing> b1n42y: not sure. check on the dhcp servers or just disable one of the connections. setting the lease time for clients might help as well.
[21:33] <b1n42y> okai thanks
[21:34] <ardchoille> nvm, fixed it. The KDED Media Manager service wasn't running
[21:34] <ScorpKing> eudemus: that file is not standard. :P did you change it manually for some reason?