[00:00] <etfb> Does anyone have any experience using kvpnc to connect to a Windows network?  I'm beginning to think the software itself is broken.
[00:00] <patrik> Xial, sadly, if I cant get this mobile stuff to work, I'll have to switch back.  =/ It seemed so easy in the tutorials ;)
[00:00] <danbh_intrepid> !tab > diegodiaz please use my whole name.  It helps me poor eyes
[00:00] <DasEi> milostrife : have problems with identifying partitions ? > sudo fdisk-l
[00:00] <Scunizi> milostrife: there's lots of new things that you'll be learning with linux and ubuntu.. grub is one of the necessary evils you get use to and can learn to like
[00:00] <danbh_intrepid> diegodiaz: which command?
[00:00] <Razer> using a liveCD what do I do to increase the size of my linux partition?
[00:01] <puff> Hm, my thinkpad (running ubuntu) isn't getting a dhcp response from the router/access point.
[00:01] <danbh_intrepid> !GParted > Razer one option
[00:01] <jrib> jescis: poke me if you can't find them, and I'll search too.  I know I've seen them there though
[00:01] <keepsake> Isn't the LiveCD size limited to your RAM size?
[00:01] <koshari> Razer make sure you back up before using any partition utilities
[00:02] <Razer> danbh_intrepid: how do I resize my ntfs partition though?
[00:02] <diegodiaz> danbh_intrepid: the sudo update-mime-database command from that post..
[00:02] <Xial> patrik: i do have to admit, though, I'm also curious as to why the current howto for evdo cards didn't help.
[00:02] <puff> Also, not that I can do anything about it right now, but anybody know about kernel versions?  Ever since I upgraded to hardy, suspend-to-ram has stopped working.  Suspend-to-disk (aka hibernate) sorta works, but every second or third time I have to force a reboot.
[00:02] <milostrife> Scunizi, have problems with identifying partitions ? > sudo fdisk-l would that work or not? yeah my friend that introduced me to it said the same
[00:02] <Scunizi> milostrife: the grub link I think specifically shows you how to recover after installing window as a secondary OS
[00:02] <danbh_intrepid> diegodiaz: what arguments is it looking for?
[00:02] <Scunizi> milostrife: sudo fdisk -l (there's a space there between k & -l) will identify partitions..
[00:03] <milostrife> Scunizi,  yeah it's a how to but my problem is still gettin windows to install through bios as i have legit copied cd of my windows disk but it keeps crashing on autoload in ubuntu?
[00:04] <Scunizi> milostrife: it only identifies them with that command. When installing windows on the secondary drive, if you have a choice for the filesystem choose NTFS not Fat32
[00:04] <diegodiaz> danbh_intrepid: looks like [-hvV] MIME-DIR
[00:04] <Scunizi> milostrife: you can't load ubuntu then from there put the disk in and install windows.. you have to put the disk in and reboot.
[00:04] <danbh_intrepid> diegodiaz: can you pastebin the results of your commands?
[00:04] <Razer> I can't resize my ntfs partition with gparted
[00:05] <danbh_intrepid> Razer: is this hardy?
[00:05] <diegodiaz> sure.. right here, or private to you?
[00:05] <danbh_intrepid> !paste > diegodiaz
[00:05] <Razer> danbh_intrepid: yes
[00:05] <koshari> Razer you need to install a package for ntfs resize to appear in gparted
[00:05] <milostrife> Scunizi,  ok well i tried that but it wouldn't let me format on ntfs it just came up with a message saying if you with to install windows on this dirve please select a partition when it's just saying raw unpartitioned space
[00:05] <Razer> koshari: I'm running off a liveCD
[00:06] <koshari> Razer otherwise it will be greyed out, i cant remember the package name
[00:06] <Scunizi> milostrife: ok.. then use partition editor to create a partition and see if it will format it using ntfs
[00:06] <patrik> again, My e220 connects and receives an IP, but can't seem to connect to the DNS. Trying for some reason to connect to suse.de. Any ideas?
[00:06] <danbh_intrepid> Razer: you are right, gparted doesnt support it
[00:06] <koshari> Razer you can still install packaged in a live session if your connected
[00:07] <diegodiaz> danbh_intrepid: i was also thinking I might be able to restore it from the HH live disk..
[00:07] <keepsake> Why not like
[00:07] <keepsake> choose to install
[00:07] <diegodiaz> I posted it by the way.
[00:07] <keepsake> use the installation to partition the drive
[00:07] <keepsake> and then exit the installation?
[00:07] <danbh_intrepid> diegodiaz: if you have a separate /home, that usually the easiest fix
[00:07] <danbh_intrepid> diegodiaz: link?
[00:07] <koshari> Razer ntfsprogs is the package, however i generally use the gparted live cd for such actions
[00:08] <milostrife> Scunizi,  the gpartitioner you give install line for? if it is then it only comes up with ecxt2,3 fat16,32 linux-swap, reiserfs and unformatted
[00:08] <koshari> Razer remember to BACKUP....
[00:08] <Razer> koshari: I am running ther gparted liveCd
[00:08] <keepsake> koshari: isn't it possible to just use the Setup to format the disk and then exit setup before it's completed?
[00:08] <Scunizi> milostrife: didn't realize there was an unformatted option.. use that one.
[00:08] <keepsake> koshari: i.e. before it starts installing Ubuntu files
[00:08] <diegodiaz> danbh_intrepid: oops.. first timer here.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/47019/
[00:09] <koshari> keepsake possable bu ti havnt done it, i still think you cannot resize a ntfs partition without ntfsprogs
[00:09] <danbh_intrepid> diegodiaz: thats the wrong command
[00:09] <milostrife> Scunizi,  ok what do i create as primary or extended partions logical isn't an option?
[00:09] <keepsake> koshari: I'm pretty sure the 8.04 setup supports NTFS drives =S I might be wrong though
[00:09] <Scunizi> milostrife: primary
[00:09] <Scunizi> milostrife: how large is the drive?
[00:09] <keepsake> koshari: but that's how I recovered one of my laptop's drives that I accidentally deleted using aefdisk in Windows
[00:09] <danbh_intrepid> diegodiaz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2952926&postcount=4 are you looking at this page?
[00:10] <koshari> keepsake it does support creating ntfs partitions but not resizing
[00:10] <milostrife> Scunizi,  only 40gig operation is pending now
[00:10] <Razer> koshari: It says I already have ntfsprogs
[00:10] <mercutio22> Hello, my session just suddenly restarted, how can I diagnose whats wrong looking into log files? Can someone help me with the basics?
[00:10] <diegodiaz> yep..
[00:10] <koshari> Razer there must be another reason it wont let you resize, its not mounted is it?
[00:10] <Razer> koshari: I don't know
[00:10] <danbh_intrepid> diegodiaz: see how the command you ran is not the command suggested, which is: sudo update-mime-database /usr/share/mime
[00:10] <keepsake> Razer: Try this bootcd: http://sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[00:10] <Scunizi> milostrife: pretty small but large enough.. if it was larger I'd suggest making as small a portion of a partition that windows will need and use the remaining portion for extra Ubuntu storage.
[00:11] <keepsake> Razer: It's supposed to have qtparted which does support NTFS
[00:11] <koshari> you cannot edit partitions while thay are mounted
[00:11] <gbolte> well I seem to have got one of the problems sorted
[00:11] <gbolte> I now have audio
[00:11] <milostrife> Scunizi,  yeah was thinking that but just brought an external 500gib for ubuntu storage
[00:11] <diegodiaz> danbh_intrepid: Yeah, you're absolutely right..
[00:11] <gbolte> but I do not have spdif audio
[00:11] <gbolte> :/
[00:11] <the_darkside_986> Is it possible to set a page quota per day in Ubuntu Hardy for a USB printer? I tried editing the cups config file and restarting cups but it didn't work--I was still able to exceed the quota without a complaint from cupsd...
[00:11] <danbh_intrepid> diegodiaz: ok, good, im glad you see.  Give it another try, let me know if it works
[00:11] <gbolte> so if anyone has any ideas to make my spdif out work please let me know
[00:12] <Scunizi> milostrife: sounds like me.. I have a 500 external and 3 internals.. 80 gig/120 gig/ 250gig
[00:13] <milostrife> Scunizi,  i was hopeing to get a terrabiyte but wasn't in the sale and didn't really have the spare cash for it as it was £135 :(
[00:13] <gbolte> it looks like its making a connection when I check and uncheck the iec958 box in gnome volume thingy the receiver looks like it notices
[00:13] <gbolte> :/
[00:13] <gbolte> but again still no audio
[00:13] <milostrife> Scunizi,  it's found it now file systems unknown partition name is sdb1
[00:13] <Scunizi> milostrife: ouch.. that apx. $250.. they're on sale out here for around $150 or apx 70
[00:13] <keepsake> Razer: btw, if you do use that LiveCD, people have suggested that you defrag NTFS first
[00:14] <gbolte> which is a problem since I would like to watch movies in surround sound on this box
[00:14] <keepsake> Razer: and to back up the NTFS partition in case things go wrong (though it shouldn't)
[00:14] <diegodiaz> danbh_intrepid:  thanks, wish me luck..
[00:14] <Scunizi> milostrife: yee ha. (that's an American term)  now you can install windows
[00:14] <keepsake> oh lmao he left XD
[00:14] <milostrife> Scunizi, lol mite have to buy one and get my cousin to mail me XD it's got an (!) in a yellow and orange triangle does that mean anything?
[00:14] <danbh_intrepid> diegodiaz: good luck!  and let me know!
[00:15] <Scunizi> milostrife: is that inside of partition editor?
[00:15] <milostrife> Scunizi,  yeah just after the sdb1 before filesystem
[00:16] <Scunizi> milostrife: probably just means it's not formatted.
[00:16] <Xial> simple question: I'd like to replace grub with a graphical boot manager. I let other users use this computer, and it's a bit annoying to remind them to choose Windows so they can play their silly poker game. Are there any recommended ones?
[00:16] <milostrife> Scunizi,  okies well i'll give windows a try now thanks for help XD
[00:16] <darren_> Hi could some one please let me know if you need an antivirus programe or a firewall with ubuntu
[00:16] <koshari> darren_ generally not
[00:17] <darren_> koshari, OK THANKS
[00:17] <Scunizi> milostrife: http://tinyurl.com/3fs7jp   no problem.. :)
[00:17] <Scunizi> that a link to the drive.
[00:17] <keepsake> Xial: try gfxboot
[00:18] <keepsake> Xial: it simulates the bootscreen in OpenSUSE
[00:18] <keepsake> Xial: or, at least, it's possible to simulate it if you download a file for it
[00:18] <Cpudan80> darren_: It really depends, what do you intend to do on Ubuntu
[00:18] <darren_> Also one last thing when i try autodetect it says invalid argument but when i select an other option like alsa sound works fine is this normal
[00:18] <Cpudan80> darren_: in general no av is needed, but firewall you might want
[00:18] <darren_> Cpudan80, ok thanks
[00:19] <Xial> keepsake: thanks for that. looking into it now to see if it might meet my needs. :)
[00:19] <keepsake> Xial: good luck!
[00:19] <Cpudan80> darren_: If you are going to run some bad services on your ubuntu box (most popular one would be VNC) -- you might want to block that (if you are plugged right into the net [no NAT])
[00:20] <darren_> Cpudan80, ok thanks for the advice
[00:21] <yetanothernick> what im about to do is part of a bet..enjoy kicking me out
[00:21] <Cpudan80> darren_: services like VNC can be made safe, if you run them over SSH
[00:21] <yetanothernick> ###########################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################
[00:21] <yetanothernick>             SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMM
[00:21] <yetanothernick> ##########################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################################      SOME MORE SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM###########################
[00:21] <Xial> ... nice.
[00:21] <Cpudan80> Wow
[00:21] <hugo> tem alguem do brasil
[00:21] <jrib> !br | hugo
[00:21] <diegodiaz> danbh_intrepid: you r a mthr f* riot man, you rock.. thanks for the help.. the issue's resolved.. Many thanks to you and thanks to dr. willis
[00:21] <Cpudan80> That was really dumb
[00:21] <danbh_intrepid> diegodiaz: cool, thats great
[00:21] <Flannel> diegodiaz: please watch your language.
[00:22] <Xial> Cpudan80: Most trolls tend to be just that. ;)
[00:22] <diegodiaz> sure.. woops, a little overenthusiastic there..
[00:22] <Cpudan80> Xial: You would think they'd pick up some new tactics
[00:23] <Xial> Cpudan80: New? Learning things? Surely, you jest!
[00:23] <Cpudan80> lol
[00:23] <Cpudan80> Asking to much?
[00:23] <Cpudan80> too*
[00:25] <hporse> hi. does anyone here use gedit and the plugin "External Tools"
[00:25] <hporse> ?
[00:25] <chris__> i'd like to boot the same install of ubuntu from 2 different computers (one being a VM). It all boots fine but i have to reinstall the drivers every time. is there a way to have something like "hardware profiles" for each computer?
[00:25] <starn> i am unable to find an easy to use MESS erm.. well i cant find a working one.. so.. what are the top emulators for sega cd sega genesis neogeo spectrum atari ngpc pcengine? you can pm the info...
[00:26] <DjDoUblEs> hello all, I have a bit of a Windows issue I need to ask about, but it arose while downloading ubuntu.
[00:26] <hporse> im am using gedit 2.22.3 but i am unable to activate the plugin "external Tools". Did anyone here successfully activate it?
[00:26] <chris__> DjDoUblEs: what issue would that be?
[00:27] <DjDoUblEs> Anything I download that is more than 10 MB ends up incorrectly downloading or just corrupt.
[00:27] <flyback> how does this freaking UP-YOURS that replaced inittab work if you need to setup a serial console
[00:27] <flyback> this is major fail
[00:28] <koshari> chris__ for simple thngs hal shouls sort out the modules however for video driver ect it may be a problem
[00:28] <hporse> does ANYONE here have gedit. and if yes, which version?
[00:28] <Xial> Now to get that reboot in that I've put off for an hour. (Thank goodness I don't get poked every eight minutes for it.)
[00:28] <DjDoUblEs> I tried downloading ubuntu 8 times already, 4 times just from mirrors, twice for the torrent, and twice through wubi but to no avail.
[00:28] <koshari> DjDoUblEs what downlaod app are you using?
[00:28] <DjDoUblEs> firefox
[00:29] <DjDoUblEs> then utorrent and wubi
[00:29] <chris__> koshari: you have any suggestions where to look for a solution?
[00:29] <formode> I am having Random restarts ever since I updated my Ubuntu with all the updates of the last month. It was not restarting randomly before then! Help, please.
[00:29] <danbh_intrepid> formode: was there a new kernel?
[00:29] <DjDoUblEs> I check the MD5 against the ISO and it fails everytime
[00:29] <formode> Formode, I have no idea.
[00:30] <fallore> my sound isn't working, it was very recently, i have no idea why and didn't change anything. ideas?
[00:30] <formode> I know it was an update from within the last 30 days, it is not hardware related, Xorg related, Gnome related.
[00:30] <koshari> chris__  so if i understand you will have one instalation but 2 instances of accessing it? how will the vm access it?
[00:30] <jescis> jrib, inittab was easier :(
[00:30] <DjDoUblEs> samthing happens when I try to download iTunes 8.0
[00:30] <formode> danbh_intrepid, I have no idea. I know it was an update from within the last 30 days, it is not hardware related, Xorg related, Gnome related.
[00:30] <chris__> koshari: the vm accesses the physical HD. all that works already. the only trouble is the driver issue
[00:30] <danbh_intrepid> formode: if you had a new kernel, you would have options to choose at bootup
[00:30] <koshari> chris__  could you not have 2 installs and symlink the /~ from one to the second?
[00:31] <bigtimetycoon> Hey I am having problems connecting to my wireless network can anyone help me ? ?  ?
[00:31] <DasEi> !wireless
[00:31] <formode> danbh_intrepid No I didn't get any options after the updates. and, it has been doing random boots while loading GRUB too.
[00:32] <danbh_intrepid> formode: I dont understand what random boots means?
[00:32] <koshari> chris__ do you know which drivers are the issue? maybe you could write a script that looks at a tel tale sign for which hardware its booting on and then rmmod the offending drivers and modprobe the needed ones at boot time
[00:33] <formode> danbh_intrepid My computer will randomly restart without warning, hard restart, no dialogues no nothing.   It's got until april of next year.
[00:35] <limitedwisdom> I have an ubuntu hardy server that I just built.
[00:35] <Flannel> formode: and on the server, two years after that.
[00:35] <jescis> flyback, I'm running 7.10
[00:35] <soundcyst> i'm using 8.04 and accidentally deleted my entire top bar. i've managed to get a new bar up, but can't seem to get all of the old menus back. is there an easy way to restore this default panel/top bar arrangement?
[00:35] <formode> flannel, Ah, didn't know.
[00:35] <flyback> I made a 8.04 install but I can't get this freaking inittab replacement figured ourt
[00:35] <flyback> oh support ends next yr?
[00:35] <flyback> GOOD
[00:35] <Flannel> flyback: Only on the desktop.
[00:35] <flyback> this is just a server
[00:35] <jescis> flyback, I'm with you ;)
[00:36] <flyback> first of all the arrogant jack off developers
[00:36] <limitedwisdom> I can't send/receive email - can anyone help? (postfix appears to be configured correctly - but when I do mail -s subject myother@emailaddress - it never shows up).
[00:36] <flyback> decided that even though 2.6.15 has a bug in nfs
[00:36] <flyback> that results in FAIL
[00:36] <flyback> they wouldn't release an update
[00:36] <flyback> so I had to go thru all that hel of trying to compile a new kernel that didn't break ubuntu 6.06 or vmware server
[00:37] <flyback> after 15 yrs in this field
[00:37] <flyback> I am not only sick of it
[00:37] <flyback> I am sick of being alive
[00:37] <danbh_intrepid> flyback: yeah, I think when ubuntu says support, they mean security backports, not bug fixes
[00:37] <flyback> yeah they are M$ lite
[00:38] <Flannel> flyback: please take non-support elsewhere, thanks.
[00:38] <soundcyst> anyone?
[00:38] <flyback> I was waiting for an answer
[00:38] <flyback> thx
[00:38] <DasEi> soundcyst:to reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal:  gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[00:38] <masta_death> i want to wattch my hotmail e-mail in evolution how can i do this?
[00:38] <jescis> Flannel, shut yo mouth
[00:39] <Xcerca> what are the keys i have to press to force a program to close, if it froze -  i remember pressing like Ctrl+ something then clicking the window and it's the same as doing kill and the pid of that window ?
[00:39] <Bynw> why would my printer stop working? worked fine just the other day ... now it doesnt print.
[00:39] <_paneb> i just bought WoW and it came with a DVD install disc. now i don't see any Installer.exe which I do see when I am on windows - is there a way to see that file?
[00:39] <sergio> hi does anyone knows were I can get a wallpaper where tux shot the windows logo???
[00:39] <gbolte> ugg this is hopeless
[00:39] <DasEi> Xcerca: if started from terminal, ctrl&c
[00:40] <masta_death> who have hotmail e-mail in evolution and can get me help?
[00:40] <formode> _paneb, look on the Ubuntu Wiki for instrustions on how to install WOW via Wine.
[00:40] <Flannel> _paneb: yes, you have to mount it specially,  see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[00:40] <limitedwisdom> can anyone help me with send/rcv email?
[00:40] <DasEi> Xcerca: otherwise...
[00:40] <Xcerca> DasEi it's not from terminal ... it's the Add/Remove on the applications menu
[00:40] <_paneb> ah, nice thanks
[00:40] <chris__> koshari: well thanks for your suggestions, i guess i will post it in detail on some forum
[00:41] <compengi> masta_death, i think hotmail doesn't have smtp nor pop3 ports. not sure if evolution could work it out
[00:41] <pan__> how do i get rid of wicd?
[00:41] <pan__> wicd 1.5.1?
[00:41] <DasEi> Xcerca: if you now the name of the app ,  k:sudo killall firefox,  for e.,  or by pid (see top)
[00:41] <koshari>  chris__: good luck
[00:41] <soundcyst> thanks DasEi!
[00:42] <masta_death> thanks
[00:42] <DasEi>  pan__: paketname ?
[00:42] <Xcerca> DasEi how do i list all programs and thier PID ?
[00:42] <alx54> hmm hi there... I am a bit sad... I really love kubuntu but it's so slow! when I move around windows they drag behind, sometimes even the curser drags although I dont do anything on my machine, just listening music....  has anybody good advice on how to accelerate graphics? I use 8.04/kde3.5.9 default settings and the proprietary driver that was recommended during installing, my hardinfo report: http://paste.ubuntu.com/47027/
[00:43] <pan__> i installed it using a deb file
[00:43] <alsadi> can any one tell me why firefox is pushing on debian and ubuntu but not other distros as SUSE and Fefora
[00:43] <alsadi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/269656
[00:43] <DasEi> Xcerca: top
[00:43] <alsadi> and the ice* stuff
[00:43] <alsadi> and http://tech.slashdot.org/firehose.pl?id=1168487&op=view
[00:43] <Xcerca> thx
[00:43] <pan__> it wont let me get rid of it in synaptic
[00:43] <jrib> alsadi: this is offtopic here
[00:43] <pan__> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[00:43] <alsadi> jrib: ?
[00:43] <flyback> how the hell do I run the upstart commands if I can't boot the box cause I need a serial console
[00:44] <chris__> Xcerca: have you tried the system monitor? (system > administration)
[00:44] <flyback> what a great example of YOU FAIL
[00:44] <flyback> I can see this on a desktop np but on a server
[00:44] <flyback> way to go
[00:44] <flyback> YOU FAIL
[00:44] <Flannel> alsadi: That'd be best asked in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu+1
[00:44] <jrib> alsadi: this channel is for ubuntu support
[00:44] <flyback> I left linux a few yrs ago cause of developer arrogant
[00:44] <flyback> I see nothing has changed
[00:44] <alsadi> ok
[00:44] <bigtimetycoon> Hey, !! thanks for the wireless link but i have followed these directions and it cannot connect
[00:44] <jrib> flyback: don't use enter to break up your thoughts as it makes it harder to follow what you are saying
[00:45]  * gbolte tries reinstalling all of alsa to fix his audio problems
[00:45] <alx54> hmm hi there... I am a bit sad... I really love kubuntu but it's so slow! when I move around windows they drag behind, sometimes even the curser drags although I dont do anything on my machine, just listening music....  has anybody good advice on how to accelerate graphics? I use 8.04/kde3.5.9 default settings and the proprietary driver that was recommended during installing, my hardinfo report: http://paste.ubuntu.com/47027/  maybe u
[00:45] <alx54> know some tricks jrib?
[00:45] <bigtimetycoon> When I enter in my ESSID and my HEX key it tries to connect but then kicks back a prompt for me to enter in my key again
[00:46] <keepsake> er, what's the opposite of /away
[00:46] <jrib> keepsake: /away <reason>
[00:46] <DasEi>  pan__:  ?
[00:47] <chubs_> keepsake are you making the lamest joke in the history of linux?
[00:47] <keepsake> jrib: i need to know how to appear as "here" again
[00:47] <keepsake> chubs_: no ='(
[00:47] <jrib> keepsake: then that's just /away
[00:47] <arcnewuss> \join #lfd
[00:47] <jrib> keepsake: what client?
[00:47] <arcnewuss> oups
[00:47] <keepsake> jrib: konversation
[00:47] <keepsake> jrib: it just makes me more away =(
[00:47] <Ahadiel> keepsake, /back?
[00:48] <Flannel> keepsake: just type `/away` and you shouldcome back
[00:48] <keepsake> HAHAHAHAHA
[00:48] <jrib> keepsake: ah don't know about konv.  Most clients just do /away
[00:48] <keepsake> it was /unaway
[00:48] <DasEi>  pan__:  sudo dpkg -r <paketname>, see man dpkg
[00:48] <keepsake> who would've guessed ^__^
[00:48] <limitedwisdom> any help with sending and receiving email?
[00:48] <arcnewuss> \bot accent
[00:48] <keepsake> limitedwisdom: what are you trying to send/receive with?
[00:48] <bigtimetycoon> Does anyone know why I cannot connect to my wireless router, It works fine via hardwire but wireless i cannot connect
[00:48] <pan__> k
[00:48] <pan__> thx dasei
[00:48] <DasEi> limitedwisdom:I like thunderbird
[00:49] <chubs_> keepsake, oh okay. i figured this was tied into /home
[00:49] <keepsake> chubs_: haha, don't worry about it =)
[00:49] <limitedwisdom> anything - I don't use the gui and I'm king of a n00b. I know my server isn't receiving email (or processing it properly perhaps), so I tried to send an email to my cell phone and it has never been received.
[00:49] <flyback> uCUNTu
[00:49] <flyback> uCUNTu
[00:49] <limitedwisdom> so - mail -s test myother@address just never arrives.
[00:49] <DasEi> limitedwisdom:I like thunderbird
[00:50] <keepsake> !language | flyback
[00:50] <keepsake> limitedwisdom: what DasEi said, try thunderbird
[00:50] <keepsake> limitedwisdom: and see if your email provider gives you options for SMTP and POP
[00:50] <limitedwisdom> I"m not using the GUI.
[00:50] <keepsake> limitedwisdom: e.g. Google has fairly good guides for gmail
[00:51] <keepsake> limitedwisdom: you want to use console?
[00:51] <Strife89> I can't seem to find a way to change my network Workgroup. Can anyone help?
[00:51] <limitedwisdom> it's the server version of ubuntu
[00:51] <Bentleyx_> hi all - i was messing around with my package repos and now am confused about what the latest kernel version in Hardy is.  Can someone please tell me? (ie: uname -a)
[00:51] <keepsake> limitedwisdom: ah, then i can't help you there, sorry
[00:51] <limitedwisdom> ok :) thanks though.
[00:51] <keepsake> Bentleyx_: 2.6.24-19-generic
[00:52] <Bentleyx_> keepsake, ty
[00:52] <Strife89> !network
[00:52] <starn> any know of a precompiled mess frontend?
[00:53] <Strife89> Does anyone know how to change the Wrokgroup name in Hardy? I can't seem to find the option anymore.
[00:53] <keepsake> starn: what's mess?
[00:53] <Strife89> *Workgroup
[00:53] <keepsake> Strife89: will "usermod" do the job?
[00:54] <keepsake> Strife89: do a "man usermod"
[00:54] <starn> keepsake: the muti machine emulator in respo's..  kinda like MAME but for consoles....
[00:54] <Strife89> keepsake: I mean, the network workgroup.
[00:55] <s73v3r> Aside from CDs being bad, what are some of the things that would cause segfaults and recursive faults during install?
[00:55] <keepsake> Strife89: in that case, I don't know, sorry
[00:55] <mscottputman> HI!  I'm moving over from Windows to Ubuntu and there's only one thing holding me back.  I used a dual-monitors setup with Windows and cannot get Ubuntu to work properly with it.  It clones easily, but I want it to extend instead.  I have been using "Screens and Graphics" to tweak things, but it hasn't worked.  I'm running on an Intel 845 and the monitor is an HP w17e on Ubuntu Hardy Heron
[00:55] <keepsake> starn: I see a program called kamefu
[00:55] <keepsake> starn: that is a "KDE All Machine Emulator Frontend for Unix"
[00:56] <helltraum> Anyone know why I'd be getting a segmentation fault when requesting .php files via apache2 ?
[00:56] <Strife89> For example, this computer is in workgroup "WORKGROUP", but two Windows PCs I'm trying to access are in "MSHOME" (and yes, I've done it before; I recently clean-installed).
[00:56] <starn> keepsake: i tried it. it did not work... not only that but i am using gnome...
[00:56] <helltraum> I've installed all via ubuntu packages
[00:56] <pan__> wicd or network manager?
[00:56] <keepsake> Strife89: /etc/samba/smb.conf
[00:56] <Strife89> As root, I assume.
[00:57] <Cpudan80> helltraum: apache segfaults or your browser segfaults?
[00:57] <hever> Hi I try to connect to a pc via XDMCP. It works from another pc but not from this one. At the gdm login screen I choose XDMCP chooser. Then I can choose the PC I want to connect to. After clicking connect I'm after some seconds back in the lokal login. Where can I find log files or infomarions ?
[00:57] <keepsake> Strife89: yeah, gedit that as root
[00:57] <keepsake> starn: from experience, many K apps work on Gnome
[00:58] <hever> What else than XDMCP can I use if I want sound to be forwarded ?
[00:58] <starn> keepsake: i know. but i prefer gnome based apps and also like i said i have tried it before it dint work right..
[00:58] <Strife89> keepsake: Do semicolons make it a comment?
[00:59] <Strife89> I'm looking at making Home directories browsable.
[00:59] <keepsake> starn: try looking here http://linux.softpedia.com/downloadTag/MESS+frontend
[00:59] <helltraum> Cpudan80 - I think it's an error with the php5 mod
[00:59] <helltraum> or something
[00:59] <JasonWoof> When some crappy program starts using too much memory, my system starts swapping and running rediculously slowly (e.g. it takes a long time to launch xterm)
[00:59] <helltraum> not sure .. never had this problem before with php5 and apache2
[00:59] <keepsake> Strife89: i think so
[01:00] <JasonWoof> if I wait too long, it gets so slow that I can't use my computer at all, and I have to reboot it
[01:00] <keepsake> Strife89: in the worse case senario, use a pound (#)
[01:00] <AaronMT> Anyone using Ubuntu on an Dell Inspiron 1501?
[01:00] <starn> keepsake: i tried em.. i cannot compile messyfront... i was hoping some one would know where a precompiled one was
[01:00] <Cpudan80> helltraum: yeah - I've got it running (all patched) no segfaults here
[01:00] <JasonWoof> there's gotta be same way to deal with this
[01:00] <JasonWoof> this thing is supposed to multitask
[01:00] <Strife89> keepsake: I want to REMOVE the semicolons. ;-)
[01:00] <JasonWoof> seems to me when the disk is being used, that there is no multitasking
[01:00] <helltraum> this is what's in my error log
[01:00] <helltraum> Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.4-2ubuntu5.3 with Suhosin-Patch configured -- resuming normal operations
[01:00] <Strife89> So I was checking to make sure that I really should.
[01:00] <JasonWoof> just busy-waiting or dead-locking or whatever
[01:00] <helltraum> [notice] child pid 32579 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)
[01:01] <helltraum> I get that when I try to run a php script via apache
[01:01] <mscottputman> does anyone know how to run dual monitors with an extended desktop? I'm having tons of trouble with it
[01:01] <Cpudan80> helltraum: might try asking #apache
[01:01] <helltraum> and I get a 500 response in the access log
[01:01] <helltraum> I have already
[01:01] <Cpudan80> helltraum: It might be ##apache
[01:01] <Cpudan80> hrm
[01:01] <helltraum> I've installed before on a debian box .. and it worked no trouble
[01:02] <helltraum> this is a new install from the packages on Mint
[01:02] <alx54> does anybody know good graphic benchmarking software?
[01:02] <helltraum> and I'm getting this error
[01:02] <starn> keepsake: with messyfront i get this error in the make process /bin/bash: aclocal-1.10: command not found make: *** [aclocal.m4] Error 127
[01:02] <JasonWoof> Ampelbein: I've got inspiron 5100
[01:02] <keepsake> Strife89: yup, semicolons and pounds make it a comment
[01:02] <Strife89> keepsake: Okay, I appreciate the help. :-)
[01:03] <lap> someone have a .deb for rubyripper 0.5.3 ?
[01:03] <harryjr> hey, i am trying to do a reverse ssh tunnel, which works fine, until i try to connect on the remote>
[01:03] <harryjr> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[01:03] <JasonWoof> how do I get multitasking when a process is swapping out like crazy?
[01:03] <J-n> starn i did some additional searching for ya
[01:03] <starn> J-n: cool
[01:03] <macd> harryjr, the host key may be pasted in authorized_keys incorrectly
[01:04] <keepsake> starn: you need to install make to use make =P
[01:04] <J-n> starn try this out, seems people are having more success with this... http://advancemame.sourceforge.net/readme.html
[01:04] <starn> keepsake: i have make... that is the prob.. make works on every other program
[01:04] <keepsake> starn: well, try what J-n said then =P
[01:05] <MaarekStele> in the 9.06 version, will they fix the modmono from removing modphp?
[01:06] <procyon> hello does anyone know about any issues with recent nvidia-glx drivers?
[01:07] <chubs_> !anyone
[01:07] <chubs_> !ask
[01:08] <procyon> I'm having a lot of problems after an update and it seems others are having this problem too
[01:08] <procyon> Xorg using 100% cpu and hanging the machine
[01:08] <J-n> procyon i'm not having difficulty with Nvidia drivers
[01:08] <procyon> i wasnt untill recently
[01:09] <dashnu> What is worng with this syntax in /etc/sudoers ???  brett   ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/firestarter\
[01:09] <dashnu> Please... driving me NUTS!
[01:09] <Toxicity> #ubuntu-es
[01:09] <dashnu> that \ was a typo!
[01:09] <keepsake> dashnu: firestarter ends in the wrong slash "\"?
[01:09] <keepsake> oh
[01:09] <dr_willis> dashnu,  i always have to google for sudoers examples to figure it out.. the  manpagges also have examples.. but are a bit complex
[01:09] <dido> hello.how burn mp3 files with k3b.
[01:09] <gbolte> is there a way that I can downgrade the version of alsa that I have
[01:09] <gbolte> ?
[01:10] <dashnu> dr_willis: yea man, I googled how to get firestarter running in my gnome session thats how I came up with what i got
[01:10] <gbolte> I have a feeling that the drivers that I am using are to blame for my lack of spdif out
[01:10] <HawkInCa> fellas what is the safest usb wireless card to buy in order to work with WPA and Ubuntu Hardy??
[01:10] <darren__> Hi could some one please help i have rtl8187 usb wireless driver installed with ndiswrapper, it shows my wifi and also the strength i can connect to non encrppred but not my router with wep has any one else had the same problem
[01:10] <dashnu> Still asks me for a pass at login though
[01:10] <dr_willis> dashnu,   I just dont worry about the firewall much. :)
[01:11] <chubs_> gbolte, dpkg --force-downgrade -i
[01:11] <SiMeoN> on
[01:11] <chubs_> dpkg --force-downgrade -i oldpackage.deb
[01:11] <gbolte> chubs_, but I have to have the actual deb files for that to work though right?
[01:12] <HawkInCa> darren is your wireless WEP or WPA?
[01:12] <dr_willis> dashnu,  that line looks wrong. with the ALL=NOPASSWD bit..    i thought that was saying all commands , didentneed a password.. but as i said. I alwyas have to reread the sudoers man pages and guides.  when i mess with it
[01:12] <chubs_> gbolte, right, but they shouldn't be tough to find
[01:12] <dashnu> dr_willis: its a nice front end for iptables... easy enough for the average joe
[01:12] <gbolte> wonder if there is any chance the old ones are still in the repos
[01:12] <dashnu> dr_willis: i read over the man again and see what I come up with
[01:12] <dashnu> thx!
[01:12] <darren__> HawkInCa, i know my router is wep with the code the wifi adapter i have no idear
[01:13] <HawkInCa> darren i had the same problem but its because your wireless is not compatible with WPA.
[01:13] <darren__> HawkInCa, the code is right it just wont connect
[01:13] <harryjr> macd: $ http://pastie.org/272413 -- i have work and home boxes. work is behind firewall, thus i am reverse connecting to home, on port 22222. ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub on home is in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys ..
[01:13] <HawkInCa> darren i had same issue
[01:14] <dr_willis> dashnu,  im thinking you are missing some  (   ) also in there.
[01:14] <macd> harryjr, yes its pasted into authorized_keys wrong, the whitespace error tells all
[01:15] <macd> verify there is none leading or trailing
[01:15] <dashnu> dr_willis: i think your right... I'll let you know what I come up with
[01:15] <dr_willis> dashnu,  i found a web site that had man pages. the  man page in  the browser was a bit easier to read. due to the code/examples and stuff being differnt fonts.
[01:15] <HawkInCa> has anyone gotten a wpa wireless to work with Hardy?
[01:15] <darren__> HawkInCa, ok if i use the driver from aircrack it connects but does not show signel strength, and if i use the ndiswrapper it shows signel strength but does not connect so i think its compatible
[01:16] <Flannel> dr_willis, dashnu: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/
[01:16] <HawkInCa> darren yeah i had the exact same issue.  i decided to get new wireless card that is compatible with ubuntu hardy
[01:16] <darren__> HawkInCa, ok thanks for the advice i will have to look into it
[01:16] <uzzerbook> hello, how to disable autostart of some daemon?
[01:17] <Flannel> !bum | uzzerbook
[01:17] <harryjr> macd: i scp
[01:17] <harryjr> macd: i scp'ed it over, so there is no copy-paste. same error.
[01:17] <harryjr> dull.
[01:18] <egroeg> hey all
[01:18] <ethana2> http://lmedinas.livejournal.com/9117.html  --I'm going to check package status
[01:18] <uzzerbook> Flannel, thx... but it doesn't work. I'd liket to disable nessusd daemon, which isn't in services or bum list
[01:19] <^Phantom^> hi :)
[01:19] <ethana2> ok, i have 0.81, going to see if this is on its way into hardy yet
[01:19] <uzzerbook> ..
[01:19] <^Phantom^> what version of xserver does 7.10 have :D
[01:20] <egroeg> if alsa will not work is opensound good enough
[01:20] <uzzerbook> ..
[01:21] <macd> harryjr, pretty odd, does your authorized keys file start with ssh-rsa or dsa, and end with login@computer ? or are you pasting a pgp key that says begin block end
[01:22] <harryjr> ssh-rsa
[01:22] <helltraum> Anyone know why I'd be getting a seg fault when requesting php files via apache2 ?
[01:22] <harryjr> it looks all fine.
[01:22] <helltraum> I've installed all the packages from the repositories ..
[01:22] <macd> the logs seem to indicate its parsing something else
[01:22] <macd> harryjr, look @ lines 5 and 35
[01:23] <uzzerbook> How to disable nessusd autostart with system?
[01:23] <cilkay> helltraum: Do you have a PHP accelerator/byte-code optimizer on that system?
[01:23] <harryjr> macd: there is only one line, with the given key.
[01:23] <dr_willis> !sysv
[01:24] <helltraum> I don't think so
[01:24] <harryjr> hm.
[01:24] <harryjr> but, why does it think it is rsa1, i suppose it is 2?!
[01:25] <macd> uzzerbook, sudo update-rc.d -r nessusd
[01:25] <starn> J-n: i ran ./configure and make and make install... did you happen to see how to run this?
[01:25] <helltraum> cilkay, any other ideas why I'm getting this or how to fix it
[01:25] <helltraum> ?
[01:25] <egroeg> anybody want to take on a no sound problem, after kernel upgrade
[01:26] <danbh_intrepid1> egroeg: try alsa
[01:26] <macd> harryjr, it looks like its not even parsing the right file, lines 5,36 look like a PGP key, its weird.
[01:26] <JackCSG> Does anyone know if NVidia's 8800GTS will be supported in 8.10?
[01:26] <helltraum> They are saying in apache that the wrong package has been installed ... I don't buy that for a second
[01:26] <uzzerbook> macd, looks like it's gonna remove nessusd completely, isn't it?
[01:26] <helltraum> I'm sure other people would've been complaining if that was the case
[01:26] <harryjr> i have never in my life used pgp
[01:26] <macd> JackCSG, the nvidia binary driver supports it
[01:26] <DaLeecher> anyone here use Xbox XBMC with Ubuntu? I am having filemanager lag when exploring directories on my samba server from the xbox. ANyone know how to solve this problem?
[01:26] <macd> uzzerbook, it kills the symlinkes in rc#.d/*
[01:27] <JackCSG> Macd, Aye but I'm Sol for Beryl as advanced features won'
[01:27] <uzzerbook> macd, ok I'll try it, thx
[01:27] <egroeg> alsa's not working
[01:27] <JackCSG> t turn on
[01:27] <^Phantom^> heh, installing this ubuntu is being harder than it could be since there is no way i can possibly see the next, back, cancel buttons on the install window lol
[01:27] <cilkay> helltraum: No. I attended a presentation on Drupal site optimization where the speaker casually mentioned that he had a cron job that that restarted Apache because the PHP optimizer that he had installed to speed things up would segfault on certain code. It just further reinforced my views on PHP.
[01:27] <danbh_intrepid1> JackCSG: yes
[01:27] <macd> JackCSG, Im pretty sure hardware accel works I have a 8600GT
[01:28] <dr_willis> ^Phantom^,  use alt-mouse click to move windows aroundif they are stuck/offscreen perhaps
[01:28] <egroeg> alsaconf says command not found?
[01:28] <uzzerbook> macd, update-rc.d: error: unknown option
[01:28] <danbh_intrepid1> egroeg: use gstreamer-properties
[01:28] <polishpaul_> Hey guys, i have a permissions issue -- I have a process running that tries to run another, but in the logs it fails to run killpgrp. The question is, how do i know exactly what user is running it? In the logs it looks like sendsize[pid#]. I can't figure out what permissions i need to set... any pointers would be helpful
[01:28] <^Phantom^> heh i have to enable some kind of guest additions system in order to be able to go higher resolution on my ubuntu machine
[01:29] <^Phantom^> >_>
[01:29] <dr_willis> ^Phantom^,  vmware/virtualbox ?
[01:29] <JackCSG> macd, I read that the July Nvidia driver started to support the 8600gt for linux,  Would I have to wait on a similar update or should I look at a new graphics card?
[01:29] <J-n> starn there is a guide!! http://advancemame.sourceforge.net/doc-install.html
[01:29] <^Phantom^> virtualbox :D
[01:29] <J-n> starn and their forums seem pretty active
[01:29] <egroeg> danbh_intrepid1: ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture: Could not open audio device for playback.
[01:29] <dr_willis> ^Phantom^,  yep. did that just the other day.. guest addons also add osme other features as well.
[01:29] <davidguest> hi i tried nmap an it said port 6777 was closed
[01:30] <egroeg> device=none
[01:30] <danbh_intrepid1> JackCSG: intrepid should support  8800GTS
[01:30] <davidguest> how do i open port 6777
[01:30] <edes> oi
[01:30] <danbh_intrepid1> egroeg: try a different device
[01:30] <davidguest> so i can connect my irc client
[01:30] <JackCSG> Danbh, I'll check out the newest alpha, thanks
[01:30] <Azazel-A2> davidguest, closed incomming out outgoing?
[01:30] <davidguest> incoming i guess
[01:30] <davidguest> case i can connect to it locally
[01:30] <pan__> how do i disconnect from the network using console
[01:30] <egroeg> device is greyed out
[01:30] <pan__> using iwconfig
[01:31] <Azazel-A2> maybe your isp blocks it
[01:31] <^Phantom^> i am not going to pay ms even a half of a poenny to be able to run another os inside of my xp
[01:31] <danbh_intrepid1> davidguest: can you pastebin sudo iptables -L
[01:31] <egroeg>  find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd
[01:31] <egroeg> /lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-ultimate/kernel/sound/core/snd.ko
[01:31] <^Phantom^> i totally fucked up the display module in my first ubuntu box
[01:31] <^Phantom^> so reinstalling it heh
[01:31] <Azazel-A2> davdidguest did you nmap local host and your hostname?
[01:32] <n3glv> ello
[01:33] <^Phantom^> i read the entire wrong guide for going above 800x600 heh
[01:33] <n3glv> nice
[01:33] <^Phantom^> not really, n0u
[01:33] <^Phantom^> i mean n3glv
[01:33] <n3glv> I'm useing gOS beta3, (hardy)
[01:33] <^Phantom^> i want to try and run mac os 9 in vb
[01:33] <n3glv> on a toshiba tl62 laptop
[01:33] <^Phantom^> :D
[01:34] <egroeg> alsa project seems down too
[01:34] <J-n> I really like how smothly XP seems to run under Vbox and Ubuntu
[01:34] <cilkay> I added preseed/file=preseed.cfg after the "--" in the "install" stanza of syslinux.cfg on my USB key. When I boot from the key, it seems to ignore the preseed.cfg file and proceeds to do a normal netinstall. What am I missing?
[01:34] <n3glv> I have most of it working, but an issue or two left
[01:35] <^Phantom^> dr_willis, can you please help me with the display thing?
[01:35] <J-n> if i ever need to use XP for a class i always use Vbox and load up a copy of XP through that, only for the occasional game i cant play through wine do i load up my XP partition these days. lol
[01:35] <^Phantom^> that is, after I finish installing the thing :D
[01:35] <Toxicity> #ubuntu-es
[01:36] <cilkay> I created that preseed file by doing debconf-get-selections --installer > preseed.cfg so that I can use the existing state of a machine to preseed a fresh install.
[01:36] <dr_willis> ^Phantom^,  all i did was install virtialbox, installed the os.. made vrtalbox  mount the guestos.iso cd. and ran the whateveritwas.run script on the cd.
[01:36] <keepsake> J-n: do DX games run better in Vbox than on ubuntu itself?
[01:36] <n3glv> so, how can I loose the gnome power thing that's in the tray and also load kpowersave (wich works for amd power stepping)
[01:36] <J-n> keepsake depends on the game
[01:36] <egroeg> should i try to rebuild the alsa drivers/
[01:36] <cilkay> This is leading to a pxeboot netinstall where I'll use one machine as the template for all the other machines on the network.
[01:36] <keepsake> J-n: what do you play in VBox?
[01:37] <J-n> keepsake some oldschool games, like Magic the Gathering:shandalar and Navyfield and some other stuff no one's ever heard of lol
[01:37] <keepsake> J-n: XD can't you just wine those?
[01:37] <keepsake> J-n: I was thinking more in the lines of CS and stuff
[01:38] <^Phantom^> i didn't know that i needed to do the guest additions thing for that
[01:38] <Nutzebahn> Hello.
[01:38] <n3glv> I'll have to look at vbox, if it can run my DeLorme nav program, and/or my tv tuner, I'll have no more need ot M$
[01:38] <J-n> keepsake sadly, many older, crappy games were written so badly that they barely work on XP let alone through wine lol
[01:38] <^Phantom^> i was doing sudos and crap and messed it up to where the os couldn't boot anymore cause of display errors
[01:38] <J-n> keepsake i heard CS works great in wine
[01:38] <keepsake> J-n: hahahaha okay; do you think games like CS would run better in a vbox?
[01:38] <ehtom> n3glv: it sounds like those things need hardware access...
[01:39] <sivel> hell
[01:39] <ehtom> you can't run games in any virtualization at the moment
[01:39] <sivel> hello
[01:39] <ehtom> unless you have some very expensive and unusual hardware
[01:39] <J-n> keepsake but i dont play counterstrike, the problem with most modern games is you need good video support
[01:39] <J-n> ehtom i play several games in Vbox
[01:39] <ehtom> they must be pre-2000 then
[01:39] <^Phantom^> i need to find my win98 install cd
[01:39] <ehtom> i.e. no direct3d
[01:39] <n3glv> yeah, would have to see if the damn usb gps is supported, most unix it's not. soemone patched the kernel tree a while back to make some UPS work, and that trashed the gps
[01:39] <^Phantom^> so i can vb win98 too :D
[01:39] <keepsake> J-n: okay, thanks
[01:40] <ehtom> n3glv: a vm won't have access to your hardware unfortunately
[01:40] <J-n> ehtom Navyfield is not pre '00 but the graphics are.. other nongraphically intense games can be played as well
[01:40] <sivel> anyone know the fix for 8.04 not reporting the correct cpu frequency?
[01:40] <n3glv> yeah, I'm dual booting vista...
[01:40] <ehtom> n3glv: it may be possible to do some hack, but you'de need to know how to program kernel modules
[01:40] <keepsake> sivel: what cpu do you have?
[01:41] <^Phantom^>  i have my win98 product key stored with the win98 install cd <_<
[01:41] <sivel> a quad 6600
[01:41] <cilkay> sivel: How do you know your CPU isn't slowing down to save energy? Intel's SpeedStep does that.
[01:41] <ehtom> n3glv: and if the windows hardware drivers use dma, you're screwed
[01:41] <^Phantom^> otherwise i'd just d/l an iso
[01:41] <^Phantom^> heh
[01:41] <sivel> they are @ 3.02 G, but ubuntu reports stock 2.4G
[01:41] <keepsake> sivel: you might need a 64bit ubuntu to enable the quadcore
 Processor:[2-Intel] Clock:[1986MHz] Cache:[0KB] Memory:[985/2048MB (48.10%)] <UPP>
[01:41] <keepsake> sivel: does it report that you have 4 cores?
[01:41] <sivel> yes it does report 4 cores
[01:42] <n3glv> the gps uses a cypress/m8 or something
[01:42] <^Phantom^> i upgraded my ram from 1gig to 2gig on friday night :D
[01:42] <keepsake> sivel: are they oc'ed or anything?
[01:42] <egroeg> anybody know a channel devoted to linux sound
[01:42] <sivel> are there any commands i can issue to see what they are at?
[01:42] <sivel> yes
[01:42] <sivel> to 3 gh
[01:42] <keepsake> sivel: did you OC in windows?
[01:42] <sooki> i recently installed a second drive and put windows on it, and got my grub back and all that, and now i'm adding windows to the grub list, but all the ubuntu ones in the list use hd(0,0), how can i tell which one to use for my second windows drive?
[01:42] <^Phantom^>  so i now get even better performance than i did with 1gig :D
[01:42] <JasonWoof> how do I stop my system from locking up when a buggy program uses too much memory? (or how do I get it un-locked)
[01:43] <sivel> nope, through the bios, and windows reports them correctly
[01:43] <JasonWoof> linux multitasking doesn't seem to work when the disk is being used heavily (eg during swapping)
[01:43] <keepsake> sivel: the default is "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[01:43] <kwame> Hi, in Fedora I had /etc/sysconfig/iptables file where I specified the iptables rules for my box, is there an equivalent in Ubuntu?
[01:43] <sivel> ok, ill try real quick
[01:44] <tonyyarusso> egroeg: if there is one, it would likely involve the word "alsa".
[01:44] <^Phantom^> dr_
[01:44] <polishpaul_> Hey guys, i have a permissions issue -- I have a process running that tries to run another, but in the logs it fails to run killpgrp due to permissions denied. How do i know what user it is that the process is running? This is amanda backups, logs say "sendsize[pid#] running /urs/lib/amanda/killpgrp failed permissions denied". I have group permissions for the backup user set... help..
[01:44] <Azazel-A2> kwame, you want to configure the iptables manually?
[01:44] <sivel> ok, heres a line of interest Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz
[01:45] <cilkay> sivel: It looks like you've overclocked it. cpuinfo is probably asking the CPU, "Can you tell me about yourself?" and the CPU just responds with what it was told to say from the factory.  If so, understandable. IDE isn't a very good interface and will block.
[01:46] <sivel> yes it shows the right stock info
[01:46] <chetnick> guys, my system crashed yesterday, it looks like some files got corupted. i am getting this errors when i log in GUI.  "The panel could not register with the bonobo-activation server (error code: 3) and will exit." and "Nautilus can't be used now, due to an unexpected error." How can i reinstall or repair gnome?
[01:46] <keepsake> sivel: does it show the correct overclocked speeds too?
[01:47] <sivel> is there a way to adjust powernowd to be more "aggressive" for lack of a better word?
[01:47] <sivel> no, not the oc speed
[01:47] <Azazel-A2> kwame, can't help ya.  I run firestarter on my boxes for ubuntu
[01:47] <sivel> on another note, all of the sudden every key i hit creates an annoying beep
[01:48] <keepsake> sivel: like a system beep?
[01:48] <sivel> yup, exactly
[01:48] <sivel> from out of nowhere
[01:48] <^Phantom^> one of the main reasons i'm vbing ubuntu is cause my friend recommended it to me, and cause i read that there are some good open-source video editors for linux :D
[01:48] <spukisputnik> sh: infobash: not found
[01:48] <keepsake> sivel: for powernowd, look at "man powernowd", for the speakers, try "modprobe -r pcspkr"
[01:49] <sivel> ok, thank you very much
[01:49] <^Phantom^>  k now i am booting up linux :D
[01:49] <pan03242> anyone know how to disconnect from network from console?
[01:49] <danbh_intrepid1> !iptables > kwame
[01:49] <tonyyarusso> pan03242: Use ifconfig to disable the interface.
[01:49] <danbh_intrepid1> pan03242: look into ifdown
[01:50] <polishpaul_> kwane, are you trying to have iptables load on boot with your rules?
[01:50] <DaLeecher> anyone here use Xbox XBMC with Ubuntu? I am having filemanager lag when exploring directories on my samba server from the xbox. ANyone know how to solve this problem?
[01:50] <JasonWoof> cilkay: Dunno anything about PATA, but I assume my internal HD is plugged in with IDE
[01:50] <JasonWoof> cilkay: I've got a dell inspiron 5100
[01:50] <Azazel-A2> chetnick, any responsed yet?
[01:50] <^Phantom^> k how do i find out what version of xserver came with my ubuntu installation?
[01:50] <keepsake> sivel: to disable pcspkr at startup, add "blacklist pcspkr" to "/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"
[01:50] <JasonWoof> cilkay: lspci shows an IDE bus
[01:51] <JasonWoof> cilkay: lspci does not output PATA
[01:51] <cilkay> JasonWoof: How much RAM?
[01:51] <JasonWoof> cilkay: 500MB
[01:51] <JasonWoof> cilkay: I mostly don't run graphical desktops, so it should be more than enough
[01:51] <danbh_intrepid1> ^Phantom^: how about apt-cache show xserver-xorg
[01:51] <vitanovus> hey guys
[01:51] <cilkay> JasonWoof: What does top report when your disk is thrashing and the system isn't responsive?
[01:51] <J-n> ^Phantom^ i fear virtual box may not be a great final solution for you, if you wish to do video editing. :(  I am not sure if you'll be able to get much, if any, preformance from your video card in that department, as the ability for the guest OS to access hardware is very limited :(
[01:52] <tonyyarusso> ^Phantom^: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg should work
[01:52] <JasonWoof> cilkay: can I get around the IDE blocking thing with the kernel CONFIG_PREEMPT=y ?
[01:52] <chetnick> Azazel-A2, nobody
[01:52] <sivel> actually its only happening in xchat
[01:52] <JasonWoof> cilkay: I can't run top, I can't even get an exterm open
[01:52] <Azazel-A2> ok..  also wb davidguest
[01:52] <sivel> not in the terminal, or anything else
[01:52] <cilkay> JasonWoof: That isn't normal at all.
[01:52] <davidguest> still having bother dont no whats going on
[01:52] <davidguest> grr dam irc
[01:52] <vitanovus> is there a way to change the items in my Places menu
[01:52] <kwame> danbh_intrepid1: thanks
[01:52] <JasonWoof> cilkay: if I catch it early, while my system is still functional (though unreasonably slow) I see a process with 1GB of virtual memory
[01:53] <^Phantom^> also, can I please get some guidance using this "guest additions" thing to get better resolution in ubuntu
[01:53] <^Phantom^> ?
[01:53] <^Phantom^> *
[01:53] <JasonWoof> or whatever, virtual memory that's going up fast
[01:53] <Azazel-A2> ok, what isn't starting?  you try apt-get autoremove offending package && apt-get install offending package
[01:53] <pan03242> sudo ifdown ath0
[01:53] <pan03242> ifdown: interface ath0 not configured
[01:53] <pan03242> ?
[01:53] <halycon> hey everyone I am trying to configure Cairo Dock and I cant figure out how to remove sub docks
[01:53] <Reformer81> Am I able to burn the CD image to a blank DVD disc without problems?
[01:53] <pan03242> sudo ifdown ath0
[01:53] <Reformer81> I can't find a DVD iso anywhere.
[01:53] <JasonWoof> cilkay: it's generally been my experience with linux
[01:53] <Azazel-A2> davidguest did you get my suggestion apt-get install lokkit?
[01:53] <JasonWoof> I remember being much happier on my old mac when I turned CONFIG_PREEMPT on
[01:53] <chetnick> Azazel-A2, E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:53] <tonyyarusso> pan03242: ifdown is a shortcut that will only work if the interface has an entry in /etc/network/interfaces.  For unconfigured interfaces you can still use 'sudo ifconfig ath0 down'.
[01:54] <davidguest> yeah i tried that
[01:54] <davidguest> grrr
[01:54] <Azazel-A2> ok try that first
[01:54] <BigBear> how do i change the I/O Scehdular
[01:54] <pan03242> k
[01:54] <pan03242> thx
[01:54] <davidguest> rno idea what the heck up at least windows firewal is easy 2 change
[01:54] <cilkay> JasonWoof: Not mine. I run 512M virtual machines but you have to stay on top of what you're running on them. The problem looks like you're hitting swap and that disk thrashing isn't the problem. It's the symptom.
[01:54] <JasonWoof> cilkay: is thrashing supposed to kill all multitasking?
[01:55] <JasonWoof> I think I aught to be able to use my computer anyway
[01:55]  * ^Phantom^ looks at the screen with odd face
[01:55] <dumbdum> Hi, Google earth doesn;t appear in my package manager! What is the command to install it please?
[01:55] <JasonWoof> at least a little, I just want a few cycles to start up an xterm and run killall or something
[01:55] <Azazel-A2> chetnick, what happened?
[01:55] <JackCSG> you can download the Tar files off of their website
[01:55] <^Phantom^> "W: Unable to locate package xserver-org"
[01:55] <spx2> what is portmap used for ? can I kill it without major consequences ?
[01:55] <cilkay> JasonWoof: If you've run out of real memory, it sure will kill responsiveness. It's not killing multitasking per se. I'll bet if you could get top going on that, you'd see the load average would be very high and many processes waiting for CPU attention.
[01:56] <cilkay> JasonWoof: That makes for a very unpleasant and unresponsive system. Add more RAM.
[01:56] <^Phantom^> anyway
[01:56] <franki^> something went horribly wrong with my graphical display(log in sound but blank screen) now running from a live cd, can i 'repair' somehow, or should i completely reinstall?
[01:56] <Cpudan80> dumbdum: download it from google directly
[01:56] <^Phantom^> i want the higher resolution first
[01:56] <keepsake> spx2: ubuntu package list says: Portmap is a server that converts RPC (Remote Procedure Call) program numbers into DARPA protocol port numbers. It must be running in order to make RPC calls.
[01:56] <JasonWoof> cilkay: nope, when I've gotten top open, I see one process hogging memory, and the CPU not doing much
[01:56] <cilkay> JasonWoof: What is that process?
[01:56] <Cpudan80> dumbdum: the install command is sh <file you downloaded>
[01:56] <arooni> i have ubuntu hardy + sound blaset live value card.  i can only hear audio out of my front speakers (and not the rear ones).  on my card there is separate output for front/audio speakers.... everything is turned up in alsa, and i have tried restarting... ideas?
[01:56] <cilkay> JasonWoof: and what is the load average?
[01:56] <JasonWoof> cilkay: it varies, since I tend not to run such programs again
[01:56] <JasonWoof> cilkay: last time it was the thunar-file-manager thing from xfce
[01:57] <tonyyarusso> spx2: Required for NFS or NIS, among other things.  For normal desktop use though it's not even installed by default, so you could in those cases.
[01:57] <dumbdum> But it downloads as a "bin" and I dont know what to do with it :(
[01:57] <JackCSG> dumbdum, go into properties
[01:57] <JasonWoof> cilkay: I had a 21600x21600 pixel png in my home folder and it was trying to make an icon from it. apparently by decompressing the entire thing into memory
[01:57] <dumbdum> properties for what?
[01:57] <JasonWoof> (which would take about 1.3GB for 3 bytes/pixel)
[01:57] <cilkay> JasonWoof: NO WONDER! :)
[01:57] <JackCSG> dumbdum, of the bin file
[01:58] <dumbdum> Ok!
[01:58] <JasonWoof> cilkay: so yes, my software screwed up. but I don't think one buggy program running as my normal user should be able to effectively crash my computer by trying to allocate too much ram
[01:58] <Reformer81> Am I able to successfully burn the Ubuntu CD image to a DVD disc?
[01:58] <cilkay> JasonWoof: You want a refund or something?
[01:58] <keepsake> JasonWoof: why in the world do you have a png that big?
[01:59] <cilkay> What are you whining to me about? :)
[01:59] <JackCSG> dumbdum, then go to permissions, and check 'allow excecuting file as a program'
[01:59] <JasonWoof> I think linux is capable of multitasking enough to give a few cycles to my WM and xterm so I can fix it without powercycling
[01:59] <danbh_intrepid1> cilkay: please dont troll
[01:59] <Azazel-A2> reformer81, what os?
[01:59] <JasonWoof> keepsake: I forget. now I'm afraid to look at it
[01:59] <cilkay> danbh_intrepid1: Huh? I think you have it backwards.
[01:59] <keepsake> JasonWoof: haha, i wouldn't doubt that
[01:59] <JasonWoof> seems to be a high-res map
[01:59] <polishpaul_> how do i find out what user ran a process?
[02:00] <Azazel-A2> ps aux | grep -i 'process name'
[02:00] <dumbdum> i get a message that the file is corrupt, so I will download it again, sorry
[02:00] <Reformer81> Azazel-A2: Uhm... I mean, if I burn the CD image to a blank DVD disc, can I still boot it normally?
[02:00] <cilkay> JasonWoof: My son used a Celeron 366 with 196M of RAM for 3 years. It was slow but usable.
[02:00] <cilkay> But he never attempted to open a 21k x 21k PNG.
[02:00] <^Phantom^> k it won't let me install the guest additions thing
[02:00] <JasonWoof> cilkay: sure, my last laptop had 128MB of ram. that was enough for most things
[02:01] <cilkay> JasonWoof: Anyway, good luck. I'm done. Nothing to see here. I'm moving on.
[02:01] <J-n> ^phantom^ getting an error message?
[02:01] <Azazel-A2> yes, you can boot the cd off the cd-drive as a live eval
[02:01] <^Phantom^> "program must be run with administrator privelages"
[02:02] <keepsake> ^Phantom^: sudo! gksudo!
[02:02] <JasonWoof> cilkay: so you don't think there's any way to recover a computer that's started thrashing?
[02:02] <^Phantom^> is there any way i can run it as an admin
[02:02] <keepsake> alt+f2
[02:02] <Azazel-A2> reoformer81, my question was wer eyou buring dvd from windows pc, or linux manchine
[02:02] <cilkay> JasonWoof: Kill the offending process.
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo
[02:02] <keepsake> ^Phantom^: if it's a GUI program, use "gksudo <program>"
[02:02] <keepsake> ^Phantom^: if it's a console program, use "sudo <program>"
[02:02] <cilkay> JasonWoof: And please stop pinging me. There are 1236 other people in the channel too.
[02:02] <hal_v2> With the program rarcrack, how do I get the password which has been cracked? The xml file it created doesn't seem to show anything.
[02:02] <macd> JasonWoof, magic+sysreq http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/457
[02:03] <cilkay> 1235 not counting you.
[02:03] <JasonWoof> cilkay: thanks for chatting. just curious if you actually had an answer you wanted to slip in at the last minute
[02:03] <^Phantom^> it's the virtualbox guest additions thing...
[02:04] <krazy-h> Hi there
[02:04] <keepsake> ^Phantom^: you're doing all this because ubuntu can't find the proper monitor resolution?
[02:04] <cilkay> JasonWoof: Cheers.
[02:05] <macd> keepsake, its a good idea to install the virtualbox guest additions anyways, mouse integration, flexible display resizing
[02:05] <keepsake> macd: okay, i didn't realise he wanted to change it in virtualbox =P
[02:05] <^Phantom^> i'm doing this because I want to be able to match the vbox fullscreen with my 1440x900 display
[02:05] <hal_v2> With the program rarcrack, how do I get the password which has been cracked? The xml file it created doesn't seem to show anything.
[02:06] <macd> ^Phantom^, anyways, Click applications --> file manager (super user mode) --> enter your pass --> run the vbox guest install
[02:07] <J-n> ^phantom^ at what step are you? Have you mounted the Guest additons ISO into your drive yet? If you do not have premission to run a program that is text based use sudo program.name graphically based program gksudo program.name
[02:07] <^Phantom^> there is no file manager (super user mode) thing there...
[02:08] <keepsake> ^Phantom^: press Alt+F2, then type in "gksudo nautilus"
[02:10] <J-n> !love
[02:10] <dumbdum> Hi, ive downloaded Google earth.bin from the net, how do I install it?
[02:10] <^Phantom^> the additions thing doesn't show up in the new window <_<
[02:10] <Flannel> !googleearth | dumbdum
[02:10] <Flannel> dumbdum: Use the one in medibuntu
[02:11] <OrangeKyo> the scroll bar on my touchpad stopped working, is there a quick way to reset the device instead of rebooting?
[02:11] <locainex> hi, is there a channel for playstation ubuntu?
[02:11] <dumb_idiot> <-- that's how I feel right now
[02:11] <dumbdum> Ok, how do I do that please, (As you can see im very new to Linux!)
[02:11] <helltraum> I've just done a sudo apt-get remove php5 -- now when I sudo apt-get install php5 .. it says it's done .. but there's nothing at all in /usr/bin
[02:12] <helltraum> Anyone know what I'm doing wrong here ?
[02:12] <IndyGunFreak> dumbdum, i'm installing googleearth from medibuntu now... its easy to do, just follow the inst
[02:12] <Flannel> helltraum: You want to install php5-cli
[02:12] <gaintsura> Ubuntu host, ubuntu guest via vbox, how do I set it up so that the ubuntu guest can be accessed by the host as a hostname?
[02:12] <keepsake> dumb_idiot: go to the folder that contains the Virtual Box program you need to run
[02:13] <helltraum> Ok .. thanks
[02:13] <dumbdum> ??
[02:13] <keepsake> ^Phantom^: what i said to dumb_idiot =P
[02:13] <^Phantom^> <_<
[02:13] <keepsake> ^Phantom^: figure out the folder name in full, and then the name of the application
[02:13] <keepsake> ^Phantom^: so you can run the program in console with sudo
[02:13] <keepsake> ^Phantom^: i mean gksudo
[02:14] <^Phantom^> it's mounted as a drive >_>
[02:14] <dumbdum> How do I install Google earth from medibuntu?
[02:14] <keepsake> ^Phantom^: okay, just open a file browser
[02:14] <keepsake> ^Phantom^: browse to it
[02:14] <keepsake> ^Phantom^: and see what it says at the top
[02:14] <keepsake> ^Phantom^: under location
[02:15] <keepsake> ^Phantom^: if you don't see location, click the page with the pencil under back
[02:15] <Flannel> dumbdum: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu  I suggest the "individual package" method, but either will work fine.
[02:15] <acrousey> i forget this: when burning a downloaded iso, what is the best speed to burn it to a disk at?
[02:15] <^Phantom^> OH i get it now
[02:15] <^Phantom^> J-n helped me get it
[02:15] <keepsake> ^Phantom^: haha okay
[02:15] <Flannel> dumbdum: also, if you're following the individual package thing, don't go to /pool/ just go here: http://packages.medibuntu.org/  its easier to find that way
[02:16] <acrousey> i know i don't want to go at max speed
[02:16] <acrousey> isn't 16x good or should i go slower?
[02:16] <keepsake> acrousey: what's wrong with max speed?
[02:17] <acrousey> keepsake: I think i remember there being errors going at max
[02:17] <J-n> ^phantom^ it's how i started using ubuntu as well.. i realized that the drivers that VBOX forces ubuntu to use for video weren't what i wanted to be using. So one day i brokedown and installed ubuntu on a spare partition.. then i re partitioned my drive to give ubuntu more space, and now XP resides on a small, rarely used partition.. and i use Vbox from ubuntu to run XP stuff lol
[02:17] <keepsake> acrousey: oh, then lower it a notch or two
[02:17] <keepsake> acrousey: what kind of disc is it?
[02:17] <acrousey> keepsake: cd-r
[02:17] <J-n> acrousey only if you've got a cheap disk.
[02:17] <filsuf> Apple become America's most admired company
[02:18] <filsuf> Microsoft is OUT
[02:18] <J-n> apple? nah.. probally google for most
[02:18] <keepsake> acrousey: what are you burning onto the cd? (music/application/movie/etc?)
[02:18] <filsuf> and no other tech company in there ... nothing Linux for sure
[02:18] <J-n> though even google isnt always nice
[02:18] <filsuf> http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/mostadmired/2008/index.html
[02:18] <acrousey> ubuntu
[02:18] <acrousey> for friends
[02:18] <acrousey> like a live cd
[02:19] <keepsake> acrousey: Burn at top speed, but verify the disk.
[02:19] <acrousey> how do i verify it?
[02:19] <keepsake> acrousey: There should be an option in your burning software.
[02:19] <filsuf> ubuntu is nice once you are bored being a linux hacker
[02:19] <acrousey> keepsake: i'm using brasero
[02:19] <acrousey> ok
[02:19] <nabcore> So... will 8.10 be shipping with the Firefox Eula pop-up or will they switch to IceCat? Such a popup will be a real pain for live cd users
[02:19] <Flannel> dumbdum: That page has been updated with the simpler instructions (the wiki page)
[02:19] <acrousey> keepsake: i'll look for it
[02:19] <Flannel> nabcore: #ubuntu-offtopic would be the place to talk about that
[02:19] <Meerkat> MS will never be out. You may not use it, but many businesses etc rely on it. I am even bound to it professionally.
[02:19] <J-n> filsuf  google is a tech company... at number 4...
[02:20] <filsuf> yeah
[02:20] <filsuf> google is a new evil
[02:20] <JackCSG> filsuf, agreed
[02:20] <keepsake> acrousey: Tools -> Check Integrity after it's been burned
[02:20] <filsuf> google's phyton sucks big time
[02:20] <filsuf> but people still use it like they use visual-basic
[02:20] <acrousey> alright
[02:21] <J-n> filsuf and how many people really know much about Canonical or other Open source providers?
[02:21] <Flannel> filsuf, J-n, JackCSG: please take the non-support discussions to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[02:21] <orethrius> More than previously.  ;)
[02:21] <JackCSG> flannel, sorry
[02:21] <J-n> Flannel you are right sorry.
[02:21] <filsuf> many windows user also dont know who wrote MS Word or MS Excel
[02:21] <filsuf> they'd just say Bill Gates wrote the softwares
[02:22] <orethrius> Ah, my bad, just trying to catch up with Jenda.  To the off-topic room!
[02:22] <^Phantom^> now how can get those cool desktop effects to work?
[02:22] <filsuf> many Apple user also wouldnt know who that Woz is
[02:22] <halycon> Does everyone know why I get a "wrong architecture" error message everytime I try to install something from a debian package?
[02:22] <halycon> *anyone
[02:22] <droopsta915> when i installed it asked me ifknew the  moitor type and i said no, I got a new monitor now, (Is there a way to pick a monitor type now)?
[02:22] <keepsake> ^Phantom^: install "Advanced Desktop Effects Settings (ccsm)" in add/remove applications
[02:22] <JackCSG> Halycon, Are you using 64 or 32 bit?
[02:23] <J-n> ^phantom^ you may not be able to get them to work using virtualbox
[02:23] <filsuf> anybody tried to play 'Muslim Massacre' ?
[02:23] <filsuf> using wine maybe
[02:23] <keepsake> then in System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects to Normal/Extra
[02:23] <halycon> JackCSG, it is a 32 bit machine
[02:23] <^Phantom^> thank you much keepsake
[02:24] <JackCSG> Halycon, What's the architecture of file your are installing?  Make sure they match
[02:24] <keepsake> np
[02:24] <halycon> JackCSG, I got the same error messages for Skype, AcetoneISO2 and now for mdic
[02:24] <droopsta915> does it matter if ubuntu doesnt know what type of monitor i use?
[02:25] <bnovc> is there a repository somewhere with ventrilo server?
[02:25] <JackCSG> Halycon, are you using Ubuntu and trying to download the Debian versions of the packages?
[02:25] <IndyGunFreak> droopsta915: probably not, whats it say, Plug N Play or something like that?
[02:26] <halycon> JackCSG, yeah some programs only seem to have a debian installer
[02:26] <JackCSG> Halycon, what version are you using?
[02:26] <gandalfcome> I have ubuntu running on asus eee pc 901. and I tried to get dual screeen running but it doesnt work. any ideas? Thanks
[02:27] <J-n> gandalfcome what video card?
[02:27] <halycon>  Ubuntu 8.04
[02:27] <halycon>                 - the Hardy Heron
[02:27] <Merther> Installing Linux on an external drive doesn't put grub on the internal drive right?
[02:27] <droopsta915> indygunfreak: i just bought a new monitor, it works fine, i was thinking if i made changes in ubuntu the monitor wuld work to its best
[02:27] <halycon> JackCSG, Ubuntu 8.04 - the Hardy Heron
[02:28] <sooki>  i'm trying to add windows to my grub list, but it's located on its own second drive, and i'm not sure which hdwhatever,whatever it is, is there a way to find out?
[02:28] <gandalfcome> J-n: I guess the normal eee pc video card
[02:28] <JackCSG> Halycon, where are you downloading these from?
[02:28] <halycon> JackCSG, it is directly from the software creators website
[02:29] <^Phantom^> i think J-n is right
[02:30] <JackCSG> halycon, wish I could help but that's a little out of my expertise at the moment, maybe I can punt this question off to someone else?
[02:30] <^Phantom^> won't enable desktop effects
[02:30] <halycon> JackCSG, ok thanks for your help
[02:30] <J-n> gandalfcome If you can find out what video card you have it will be much eaiser, if it's nvida manufacture it's one way, and if not it's possibly several other...
[02:31] <Guest45955> Hi
[02:31] <Guest45955> I need help using ufw
[02:32] <J-n> ^Phantom^ if you've got the HD space i'd just suggest doing a dual boot with ubuntu as one of the options - you'll like it a heck of a lot more i suspect :)  and you'll find those features will work more readily
[02:33] <J-n> ^Phantom^ then soon you'll have windows that burn away when you close them, and a fancy spinning cubic desktop, and all those other fun features :D
[02:33] <pawan> hi
[02:34] <J-n> ^Phantom^ and video editing software will run better too :)
[02:35] <Guest45955> Can somone help me with ufw
[02:35] <Guest45955> I want to open a port
[02:36] <pw-> man, the channel is dead
[02:36] <danbh_intrepid1> !lag
[02:37] <^Phantom^> oops
[02:37] <^Phantom^> i forgot to read how to get out of seamless mode <_<
[02:37] <danbh_intrepid1> [q] how can I check my powersupply?
[02:38] <hal_v2> is there any way to get files back that I deleted through the trash?
[02:38] <^Phantom^> vbox
[02:38] <J-n> host key +L
[02:39] <^Phantom^> thank you so much :D
[02:39] <hal_v2> wtf is host key?
[02:39] <gandalfcome> J-n: I'll try. the funny thing is when I lugged in the xorg.conf in the drivers sections it only said configuredvideodevice. when I used ubutntu you could see which driver it uses that doesnt seem to be the case anymore
[02:39] <J-n> ^phantom^ was right control L for my default install, probally is same for you
[02:40] <J-n> hal_v2 sorry i should have directed that comment at ^phantom^
[02:40] <hal_v2> is there any way to get files back that I deleted through the trash, though?
[02:40] <J-n> gandalfcome i'm sure there is a way to find out what card you're using, i just dont know how :(
[02:41] <Merther> Hey, just to be sure, if I install Linux on an external usb hard drive that doesn't install grub to the internal drive right?
[02:41] <^Phantom^> okay
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> Merther: negative.. 99.9% of the time, it does.
[02:42] <gandalfcome> Is anyone using ubuntu  with an Eee pc here?
[02:42] <J-n> hal_v2 i dont know
[02:42] <Merther> ok how about a pen drive install on an external usb hard drive, would that not install grub on the internal?
[02:43] <^Phantom^> now, one last question
[02:43] <dashnu_> Merther: you have an option were to put grub...
[02:43] <gandalfcome> J-n:
[02:43] <gandalfcome> Asus Eee PC 901
[02:43] <gandalfcome> Notebook Specifications
[02:43] <gandalfcome> Asus Eee PC 901Notebook: Asus Eee PC 901
[02:43] <gandalfcome> Processor: Intel Atom Z530 1600
[02:43] <gandalfcome> Graphics Adapter: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 950
[02:43] <gandalfcome> Display: 8.9 inch, 16:10, 1024x600 pixels
[02:43] <gandalfcome> Weight: 1.1kg
[02:44] <gandalfcome> Price: 500 euro
[02:44] <gandalfcome> Links: Asus homepage Asus notebook section Eee PC 901 (Model)
[02:44] <gandalfcome>
[02:44] <gandalfcome> Average Score: 82% - good
[02:44] <gandalfcome> Average of 15 scores (from 21 reviews)
[02:44] <IndyGunFreak> dashnu_: true, but usually with a normal install, it puts grub on the internal drive.. you can rmove it, but thats where it goes.
[02:44] <gandalfcome> price: 73%, performance: 72%, features: 78%, display: 63%
[02:44] <keepsake> !page | gandalfcome
[02:44] <gandalfcome> mobility: 82%, workmanship: 75%, ergonomy: 58%, emissions: 77%
[02:44] <gandalfcome> Reviews for the Asus Eee PC 901
[02:44] <gandalfcome> ASUS Eee PC 901 Review
[02:44] <keepsake> !paste | gandalfcome
[02:44] <IndyGunFreak> !ops | gandalfcome
[02:44] <dashnu_> Merther: and if it does just rewrite your mbr for windows
[02:44] <danbh_intrepid1> jigga?  what just happened there?
[02:44] <Madpilot> IndyGunFreak, clever bots exist for flood control now
[02:44] <Merther> I don't  recall seeing that.  Where in the installer is that?
[02:45] <danbh_intrepid1> FloodBots got all confused
[02:45] <IndyGunFreak> Merther: why don't you just do a normal install?... to your internal drive.
[02:45] <IndyGunFreak> Madpilot: well they fell asleep at the wheel on that guy...lol
[02:45] <kapace> hello, i have a printer that prints only test pages and stuff from smb
[02:45] <Madpilot> IndyGunFreak, most floods don't go so long, true...
[02:45] <Merther> I've got it like that for my computer but my friend wants to test with an external drive without modifying his internal drive.  That, and he hasn't backed up the internal.
[02:45] <IndyGunFreak> Madpilot: lol, i know, just kiddin..
[02:45] <kapace> the printer takes normal text prints, but quickly stops and says: Flushing Buffer
[02:45] <gandalfcome> sorry about that, that was not planned
[02:46] <kitche> IndyGunFreak: maybe he ws lagging or the bots were :)
[02:46] <keepsake> !paste | gandalfcome
[02:46] <^Phantom^> how do i mount my shared folder
[02:46] <IndyGunFreak> Merther: so why not give him a live CD?
[02:46] <kapace> also: the print queue just briefly shows the print job
[02:46] <dumbdum> Hi, i downloaded Google earth 4.3 from medibuntu but cant install (error "dependencies not satisfied")
[02:46] <IndyGunFreak> dumbdum: how did you download it from googleearth
[02:46] <IndyGunFreak> *medibuntu
[02:46] <gandalfcome> J-n: Graphics Adapter: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 950
[02:46] <danbh_intrepid1> the floodbots unsquelched gandalfcome instead of squelching him  : P
[02:46] <keepsake> it's better
[02:47] <keepsake> dumbdum: do you know what the missing dependencies are?
[02:47] <Merther> He's got it, though he would rather be able to bring the hard drive to another computer with a usb bootable bios because he's got more then one computer.
[02:47] <dumbdum> Via web with Firefox at http://packages.medibuntu.org/hardy/index.html
[02:47] <IndyGunFreak> apt-get should ahve resolved all dependencies for google earth.. i've never had a prob w/ that.. and actually, i just installed Google Earth like 10min ago.
[02:48] <kitche> dumbdum: why don't you add the medibuntu.org repos to your apt?
[02:48] <IndyGunFreak> dumbdum: well duh.. you're downloading individual packages.. add the medibuntu repository, following the instructions, then run sudo apt-get install googleearth and watch in wonder
[02:48] <IndyGunFreak> why you'd download packages when there's a repository is a mystery wrapped in a riddle
[02:48] <dumbdum> Have you noticed my handle? Its ok for you experts!
[02:49] <J-n> gandalfcome it will not be easy, but it can be done, i think http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174 should help
[02:49] <keepsake> dumbdum: are you running 8.04/hardy?
[02:49] <IndyGunFreak> dumbdum: has nothing to do with dumb/experience, click repository how to, and follow the instructions
[02:49] <dumbdum> yes
[02:49] <IndyGunFreak> it has to do w/ following instructions.
[02:50] <keepsake> dumbdum: use "sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list"
[02:50] <keepsake> dumbdum: copy the command into your console and run it
[02:50] <cheeky>  hey when i type this in the terminal "sudo iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT"  i get this spat back @ me bad argument  'ssh' ...wat did i do wrong ? do i need to put something where the INPUT was?
[02:50] <keepsake> dumbdum: after, do this "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update"
[02:50] <dumbdum> Ive followed all instructions all gave and it doesnt work for me. obviously im missing something so Thanks to all!
[02:51] <IndyGunFreak> dumbdum: you're not doing something right.
[02:51] <keepsake> dumbdum: do this "sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list"
[02:51] <J-n> dumbdum keepsake is giving you step by step hand holding instructions. i think if you follow exactly what they say you should be all good.
[02:51] <keepsake> dumbdum: then this "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update"
[02:52] <agelwarg> anyone get sound to work w/ vmware 2.0 on 8.04 ?
[02:52] <agelwarg> (pulseaudio)
[02:52] <pawan> hi
[02:53] <dumbdum> i just tried the medibuntu keyring thing and it says it cant find it.
[02:54] <dumbdum> sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list error no known server
[02:54] <javier> what do i do if my incoming TCP port is closed? Transmissions is running slow
[02:55] <danbh_intrepid1> Razer: is it iptables or your router?
[02:55] <moyix> hey, trying to use Xen 3.3 on intrepid with an intel graphics chip, and X (2:1.5.0-1ubuntu1) freezes when I launch it (grey screen, unresponsive). I found this bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xen-3.2/+bug/225046 , but the solution (upgrade to intrepid) didn't work for me
[02:55] <Razer> danbh_intrepid1, I've no idea
[02:55] <keepsake> dumbdum: ah, i see
[02:55] <keepsake> dumbdum: the problem is that medibuntu is down right now
[02:55] <keepsake> try again later
[02:55] <hydroponic> Is there any way to fix the problem where nspluginwrapper crashes and a gray box is displayed instead of Flash movies, until Firefox is restarted?
[02:55] <Razer> danbh_intrepid1, it's probably working fine since it was working fine before I reinstalled ubuntu
[02:55] <keepsake> dumbdum: when you visit http://www.medibuntu.org and it works
[02:55] <keepsake> dumbdum: try it again
[02:55] <danbh_intrepid1> Razer: sudo iptables -L      if nothing is listed, then its your router.  If you have a router, then its probably your router
[02:56] <cheeky> could some one explain to me .. iptables?
[02:56] <IndyGunFreak> keepsake: i just ran sudo apt-get update, and it hit medibuntu just fine
[02:56] <danbh_intrepid1> !iptables > cheeky maybe ubottu can!!!!!!!
[02:56] <keepsake> IndyGunFreak: I tried accessing it just now and it didn't work =S
[02:57] <IndyGunFreak> weird.
[02:57] <Razer> danbh_intrepid1, something about chain
[02:57] <kapace> i have a printer that prints only test pages and stuff from smb... on normal (gedit) prints says on the LCD is "Flushing Buffer"
[02:57] <kapace> and doesn't do anything else
[02:57] <Razer> !iptable
[02:57] <danbh_intrepid1> Razer: if you want me to judge it, use paste.ubuntu.com
[02:57] <cheeky> danbh_intrepid1: yeah i am reading that and i cant seem to set it up .. when i type this in the terminal "sudo iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT"  i get this spat back @ me bad argument  'ssh' ...wat did i do wrong ?
[02:57] <gandalfcome> J-n: Okay I can get it to clone, but the max resoultion it allows me is 860, is there any way to change this?
[02:58] <keepsake> I'm getting a Partial Upgrade message. Can someone tell me how to resolve it/figure out the cause of it?
[02:58] <Razer> danbh_intrepid1,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/47053/
[02:58] <tarrant> Hey quick question. I'm in the market to buy a new graphics card for my ubuntu computer. I haven't really followed the area for a very long time but how do nvidia and radeon compare as far as driver support currently?
[02:58] <keepsake> tarrant: afaik I think nvidia is better on ubuntu
[02:59] <tarrant> thanks that is what I figured.
[02:59] <Cpudan80> NVidia is better by many miles
[02:59] <keepsake> tarrant: I'm running radeon and it's... poopoo compared to Windows
[02:59] <Cpudan80> Take your ATi card and throw it out the window
[02:59] <keepsake> but i have no other card =(
[02:59] <Cpudan80> Radeon will work on Ubuntu
[02:59] <J-n> gandalfcome i'm gonna guess it's possible
[02:59] <Cpudan80> just dont expect it to do anything fancy
[02:59] <keepsake> Cpudan80: It does work, but it's just really slow
[02:59] <keepsake> Cpudan80: yeah
[02:59] <kapace> Cpudan80, i thought ATI was better in open source karma?
[03:00] <Cpudan80> kapace: Hell no
[03:00] <tberch> hello all, I was recently compromised, and the attacker was in promiscuous mode for quite a while (probably), and I just need a good ubuntu auditing tool, Im looking for a resource that knows anything about host based auditing
[03:00] <J-n> gandalfcome check out the xorg.conf file see if it's in there
[03:00] <Cpudan80> kapace: ATi is as bad as it gets
[03:00] <keepsake> Cpudan80: I'm running fglrx and it's meh to say the most
[03:00] <danbh_intrepid1> cheeky: can you paste your iptables?
[03:00] <tarrant> thanks all, Nvidia it is.
[03:00] <kapace> whats this i heard that AMD releasing free open driver or specs?
[03:00] <gandalfcome> J-n: Thanks. ubuntu is really a fantastic operating system but it always had difficulties with dual screen. they should really address this
[03:00] <cheeky> its the standard.. nothing on it
[03:00] <Cpudan80> kapace: They've been saying that for 100 years
[03:00] <danbh_intrepid1> Razer: its empty, you need to configure your router
[03:00] <kapace> hah
[03:00] <tarrant> amd has released lots of specs for their card
[03:00] <kapace> i see
[03:00] <Cpudan80> kapace: I'll believe it when I see it
[03:00] <vbman11> does anyone know of a good dvd making application
[03:00] <keepsake> Cpudan80: you're such a hater =P
[03:01] <Cpudan80> kapace: they released some detailed specs -- thats about it
[03:01] <Razer> danbh_intrepid1, but it wasn't a problem with my last ubuntu install
[03:01] <cheeky> danbh_intrepid1: could i pase it in a prvt message or here is fine?
[03:01] <kapace> mm
[03:01] <kitche> kapace Cpudan80 : radeonhd
[03:01] <tarrant> vbman11: k3b
[03:01] <J-n> gandalfcome if you had an nvidia card it's very simple
[03:01] <physically_fit> testing123
[03:01] <kitche> kapace Cpudan80 it's part of X.org
[03:01] <Cpudan80> keepsake: Yep - I wont ever buy an ATi unless I am forced to
[03:01] <Razer> danbh_intrepid1, which was this morning
[03:01] <keepsake> kitche: Radeonhd?
[03:01] <vbman11> tarrant: in repo?
[03:01] <J-n> gandalfcome i agree though 100% thats an area i'd like to see improved as well
[03:01] <tberch> I got dual screen to work, but I had to manually set it every time,
[03:01] <danbh_intrepid1> cheeky: either paste.ubuntu.com or a pm
[03:01] <teddy__> hey guys. I have a problem probably related to X11. In any sdl game, such as sauerbraten or urban terror, if I use the scroll wheel it makes the mouse go whacky. This doesn't happen when I hold a key while scrolling and it is fixed by pressing keys on the keyboard
[03:01] <tarrant> vbman11: yea its technically a kde program though.
[03:01] <kitche> keepsake: it's what the driver is called it works with the Radeon HD cards
[03:02] <vbman11> tarrant: ok then, thanks!
[03:02] <IndyGunFreak> gandalfcome: i guess thats a matter of opinion... i setup dual screens in about 2min.
[03:02] <keepsake> kitche: Really? Can you link me? (I have an HD2400Pro =\)
[03:02] <gandalfcome> IndyGunFreak: Laptop or desktop?
[03:02] <IndyGunFreak> gandalfcome: desktop
[03:02] <kitche> keepsake: it's part of X.org
[03:02] <Wicked> hello all. im wondering if there is a way i can get all the pictures and videos off my razr cellphone
[03:02] <teddy__> i guess im running kubuntu so i should be in #kubuntu but i remember this happening on regular old ubuntu as well
[03:02] <danbh_intrepid1> Razer: then I don''t know, sorry
[03:03] <vbman11> tarrant: will it make dvd menus?
[03:03] <keepsake> kitche: I'm afraid I don't understand, sorry =\
[03:03] <gandalfcome> IndyGunFreak: I guess that works. But laptops I always had problems. On my macbook I just plugin the secondary monitor and it detects it. I think for ubuntu to succeed it needs to have these little things to work.
[03:03] <kitche> !info xserver-xorg-video-radeonh | keepsake
[03:03] <kitche> !info xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd | keepsake
[03:03] <kitche> hate when I do a copy and paste I miss a letter ....
[03:03] <IndyGunFreak> gandalfcome: wel, i guess i'll remember that if i ever decide to lug a monitor around w/ my laptop
[03:04] <sixth> can anyone help me adding windows to grub? i tried to add it but when i click windows it just blinks
[03:04] <keepsake> kitche: I see, thanks.
[03:04] <keepsake> kitche: Is it better than fglrx/proprietary right now?
[03:04] <teddy__> google is your friend sixth :D
[03:04] <kitche> keepsake: no clue I m an nvidia person myself
[03:04] <gandalfcome> IndyGunFreak: A tip for that: gaffa tape works wonders when taping the secondary monitor to the laptop :-)
[03:04] <sixth> teddy__: ive saw google.
[03:05] <keepsake> kitche: Okay, thanks.
[03:05] <sixth> we arent really friends =[
[03:05] <kitche> keepsake: ati is not that great with the games I play really since both cards do different things
[03:05] <teddy__> sixth: im sure there are loads of results on that, because ive searched for the same thing before
[03:05] <crdlb> keepsake: only if you don't like 3d :)
[03:05] <teddy__> sixth: i can find you a link if you want
[03:05] <sixth> teddy__: but i have a problem, it didnt all went straight, im looking for troubleshooting, not the tutorial
[03:06] <jigp> hello what is the difference between embedded and liveCD?
[03:06] <keepsake> kitche: Haha, okay.
[03:06] <jrib> How can I disable the xinerama extension completely (without recompiling)?  xdpyinfo lists XINERAMA despite having << Option "Xinerama" "0" >> in my ServerFlags in xorg.conf.
[03:06] <crdlb> jrib: why are you trying to?
[03:07] <vbman11> does anyone here use QDVD Author?
[03:08] <vbman11> im having problems with it
[03:08] <Realcoolguy> vbman11 i tried it so many times!
[03:08] <Realcoolguy> and vbman11 ... same for me :(
[03:08] <vbman11> Realcoolguy: got it to work?
[03:08] <vbman11> ohh
[03:08] <fHy> heloooo
[03:08] <vbman11> dang it
[03:08] <Razer> danbh_intrepid1, how would I configure my router?
[03:08] <Realcoolguy> vbman11: not quite the way i wanted it too... eventually i had to settle on not having menus or something
[03:08] <crdlb> jrib: the Xinerama protocol (not the largely obsolete X server infrastructure) is used by all implementations of multiscreen (XRandR 1.2 and nvidia's twinview) to tell applications the layout of the physical monitors
[03:09] <vbman11> Realcoolguy: i can't even get it to read my video file
[03:09] <Sinky> hi
[03:09] <stmatrix> hmm
[03:09] <danbh_intrepid1> Razer: mmmm, run ifconfig, and enter the ip address of your router into firefox.   Log into your router, and poke around the settings
[03:10] <crdlb> jrib: historically X has used a one Screen per monitor model, so when Xinerama was introduced, we had a single Screen consisting of two monitors for the first time, so they had to invent something new :)
[03:10] <kitche> jrib: did you try using the ubuntu tools to turn it off
[03:10] <kitche> crdlb: I m pretty sure jrid knows all about Xinerama :)
[03:10] <kitche> bah jrib
[03:10] <Razer> danbh_intrepid1, I don't think I have a log-in for my router
[03:11] <danbh_intrepid1> Razer: can you get to the login page?
[03:11] <tberch> is it linksys?
[03:12] <jrib> crdlb: heh, ok.  qlite window manager checks for xinerama using xlib's Display.has_extension().    I'm assuming has_extension() would not return True for xinerama if I disabled it somehow, but this doesn't seem to happen.  So I was wondering if there was a different way to disable it
[03:12] <tberch> razer, you can hold down the reset button for 10 sec's on your router, and it will reset...
[03:12] <keepsake> Razer: In your browser go to http://<IP_ADDRESS> and see if that works.
[03:12] <tberch> if you cant get in
[03:13] <kitche> jrib: you could try using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:13] <crdlb> jrib: I'm not sure, but disabling XRandR (or twinview) might do it
[03:13] <jrib> kitche, crdlb: possibly relevant: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2007-November/002484.html
[03:13] <sixth> can anyone help me adding windows to grub? i tried to add it but when i click windows it just blinks
[03:13] <De[X]tone> m0rning guys...
[03:14] <bobertdos> sixth: Pastebin your menu.lst please.
[03:14] <Razer> keepsake, it's asking for a username and password and I never knew that
[03:14] <keepsake> Razer: try "admin" as password and nothing in username
[03:15] <J-n> Razer who is the manufacturer for your router? also look on the bottom default pw's may be there as well.
[03:16] <Razer> J-n, linksys and I got it to work
[03:16] <sixth> bobertdos: http://sixth.pastebin.com/d79b425d1
[03:16] <Razer> keepsake, ty
[03:16] <keepsake> Razer: np =P
[03:17] <J-n> razer cool :)
[03:17] <Razer> keepsake, now how do I enable my incoming TCP port?
[03:17] <jrib> crdlb: I'll give it a try to see if it gives me some more pointers, thanks
[03:17] <SebNaitsabes> how do I find out how much RAM a computer with Ubuntu on it has?
[03:17] <SebNaitsabes> the command
[03:17] <keepsake> Razer: I'm not too great with port forwarding, you'll have to ask around, sorry
[03:17] <jrib> SebNaitsabes: free -m
[03:17] <keepsake> Razer: Try going to the "Applications and Gaming" tab if you have it
[03:18] <Razer> keepsake, I'm there, now what?
[03:18] <SebNaitsabes> jrib:  thanks, but I am not entirely sure how to make sense of the output
[03:19] <jrib> SebNaitsabes: the first number on the top left is how much ram it has
[03:19] <SebNaitsabes> jrib: toal 249
[03:19] <keepsake> Razer: Figure out the port you need
[03:19] <keepsake> Razer: And put it into the thing
[03:19] <crdlb> jrib: so yeah, Xorg always has the Xinerama protocol available (sometimes called "Fakerama") because XRandR can add a monitor at any time
[03:19] <lat> How can I find the character 0xfeff in a file?
[03:19] <Razer> keepsake, I need port 51413 open
[03:20] <crdlb> jrib: do you have any idea this window manager is testing for xinerama?
[03:20] <crdlb> idea why*
[03:20] <keepsake> Razer: Type in an aplication
[03:20] <keepsake> Razer: Put 51413 in both start/end
[03:20] <keepsake> Razer: Check enable
[03:20] <jrib> crdlb: hmm, I see.  It's probably better to change the way it tests.  The author uses xinerama so I assume it was never tested otherwise :)  It really just needs to know how many screens I have
[03:20] <keepsake> Razer: You might want to google "port forwarding linksys"
[03:20] <keepsake> Razer: I'm not too good with this
[03:20] <Razer> keepsake, application?
[03:21] <bobertdos> sixth: First of all, are you certain Windows is on the first partition of the first hard drive? Also, between root and makeactive, it is sometimes useful to add savedefault. Oh, and Windows entries generally go outside the automagic list.
[03:21] <keepsake> Razer: It doesn't really matter
[03:21] <Leefmcz> Question: I am attempting to resetup GRUB on my dual boot, but i am getting an error when following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows (step 4's find command). Can anyone give me any clues on whats wrong? Error: "Error 15: File not found"
[03:21] <keepsake> Razer: It's just so you know what you're opening the port for.
[03:21] <bobertdos> sixth: but more than anything, we need to be sure you're pointing to the right partition
[03:21] <mn> anyone here know how to upgrade a linux kernel in *buntu?
[03:21] <smm289> trying to use wine to install a windows application. using wine, but its not working.  Are there any other options for wine
[03:21] <sixth> bobertdos: how can i found out on what hdd is my windows?
[03:22] <danbh_intrepid1> mn: why isnt the regular upgrade system good enough?
[03:22] <Leefmcz> Flannel: You awake?
[03:22] <jrib> mn: you get automatic updates for the kernel through the update-manager if you've installed the proper linux-image-*
[03:22] <shingen1> would i need to compile my own kernel to get a specific RAID driver to work under ubuntu?
[03:22] <jrib> !appdb | smm289
[03:22] <mn> jrib: well uname -a is giving me an old kernel
[03:22] <jrib> mn: what exactly is "old"?
[03:23] <bobertdos> sixth: Because grub and fdisk's naming schemes parallel each other, if you pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l, it will be possible to tell.
[03:23] <mn> the latest is <IP_ADDRESS> and I have 2.6.24 ....
[03:23] <keepsake> mn: ubuntu doesn't update that quickly
[03:23] <IndyGunFreak> whats that package yo install when you have no sound in flash
[03:23] <IndyGunFreak> ?
[03:23] <smm289> !appdb
[03:23] <keepsake> mn: the linux core itself does, but it takes longer to integrate into Ubuntu I think
[03:23] <jrib> IndyGunFreak: libflashsupport
[03:24] <helltraum> Has anyone here managed to get php and apache working in ubuntu
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> jrib: thanks.
[03:24] <jrib> helltraum: lots of people probably
[03:24] <mn> keepsake: what do you mean?
[03:24] <jrib> !lamp > helltraum
[03:24] <keepsake> mn: The latest version for Ubuntu is the 2.6.24 you have.
[03:24] <jrib> mn: that's the latest in the repositories.  The kernel team ensures you have security fixes, if that's what you are worried about
[03:24] <r00t__> is it possible to recursively change from mp3 to ogg using LAME?
[03:24] <sixth> bobertdos: http://sixth.pastebin.com/m1d45d4e3
[03:25] <mn> jrib: oh, ok
[03:25] <Flynsarmy> Are there any good linux telnet clients like zMUD?
[03:25] <v3ctor> ls /usr/local/bin/
[03:25] <keepsake> Flynsarmy: There's Gnome-MUD
[03:25] <v3ctor> oops
[03:25] <keepsake> Flynsarmy: Otherwise I just use telnet =P
[03:25] <shingen1> xrvt & xterm works great too :P
[03:26] <J-n> Flynsarmy more than you can shake a stick at
[03:26] <danbh_intrepid1> r00t__: maybe so, but it will come out crappy
[03:26] <bobertdos> sixth: Yup, that should be 0,0...........Okay, so I suggest moving your Windows entry outside the automagic block and putting savedefault between "root" and "makeactive"
[03:26] <Flynsarmy> J-n: I searched for 'telnet' in add/remove programs and only 3 came up. putty and 2 random ones
[03:26] <r00t__> any better suggestion? I've got 102 gb and i'm tryinig to lower the size.
[03:27] <shingen1> Flynsarmy: search for MUD
[03:27] <r00t__> but keep qual.
[03:27] <keepsake> Flynsarmy: Try Gnome-MUD if you're looking to play MUDs
[03:27] <danbh_intrepid1> r00t__: recompress the mp3 to a lower bitrate?
[03:27] <helltraum> How do you trouble fault segmentation faults in apache2 and the php mod ?
[03:27] <helltraum> I've installed from the repositories ..
[03:27] <helltraum> but I'm having problems getting this to work ..
[03:28] <Soulwarp> papaya isn't a bad mud client
[03:28] <Razer> keepsake, not working :(
[03:28] <sixth> bobertdos: ?
[03:28] <sixth> oh sorry
[03:29] <sixth> didnt see you already msged
[03:29] <Leefmcz> Anyone know anything about GRUB? I'm lost.. I removed ubuntu, installed windows (i needed to move windows to sd2 or it wouldn't format), and at the moment my boot is on sd1.. but GRUB refuses to do anything. Any ideas?
[03:29] <ale_> canal do ubuntu
[03:29] <danbh_intrepid1> r00t__: generally, transcoding from one lossy codec to another results in allot of quality loss (ie mp3 -> ogg).  So its better to just reroll the mp3 to a different bitrate
[03:29] <danbh_intrepid1> r00t__: but the proof of the pudding is in the eating, so ...
[03:30] <Leefmcz> I've seen the commands "find /boot/grub/stage1" and "find /grub/stage1" and neither is found by GRUB. Any help?
[03:30] <sixth> bobertdos: what is the automagic box?
[03:31] <koshar1> Leefmcz you would need to replace the windows bootloader if you have removed linux
[03:31] <Leefmcz> koshar1: I'm attempting to.. :/
[03:32] <Leefmcz> koshar1: By following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows , I get stuck at "find /boot/grub/stage1"
[03:32] <koshar1> Leefmcz so you want whatever the windows command is to replace the mbr
[03:32] <bobertdos> sixth: I mean, put the Windows entry after the line that says ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST
[03:32] <Leefmcz> koshar1: Well why not in linux?
[03:32] <mn> Leefmcz:  I have the code I used.  Want me to paste bin them?
[03:32] <koshar1> Leefmcz why do you want grub if your just booting into windows?
[03:32] <dextone> cret
[03:32] <J-n> What is the diffrence between using synaptic or add/remove programs for installing programs?
[03:33] <Leefmcz> koshar1: At the moment i cant even boot into windows because i have a separate boot partition, and it wont work right.
[03:33] <koshar1> Leefmcz that guide is to replace grub after installing windows AND retaining ubuntu
[03:33] <v3ctor> Leefmcz: http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p18.htm#Windows_XP_Recovery_Console
[03:33] <Mustafa_Kaya> hi all
[03:33] <Leefmcz> koshar1: I am going to install ubuntu again later, i'd do it now but i dont have the time
[03:33] <Mustafa_Kaya> i couldnt connect to the internet on ubuntu
[03:33] <bobertdos> sixth: If it helps, mine looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/47059/
[03:33] <Mustafa_Kaya> what can i do*
[03:34] <Mustafa_Kaya> ?
[03:34] <sixth> bobertdos: thanks ill soon reboot to check. i also have a kernel problem, do you have any expirence with those?
[03:34] <koshar1> well you will need sonewhere to instyall the grubs stage 2 files
[03:34] <tarrant> J-n: I believe that the difference is that synaptic is fully powered while add/remove program is for your average non-geek.
[03:34] <MTecknology> I have this in auto.master "/media/music    /etc/auto.music --timeout 60" and this in auto.music "music       -rw,soft,intr,rsize=8192,wsize=8192   <IP_ADDRESS>:/media/music". If I mount is with "mount <IP_ADDRESS>:/media/music /medis/music" it works fine. but if I do that in autofs, it doesn't appear to ever actually mount.
[03:34] <Mustafa_Kaya> heey
[03:34] <bobertdos> sixth: not really, ;\
[03:34] <bobertdos> :\
[03:34] <Leefmcz> v3ctor: I'd rather do it the linux way.. heh. Since thats the main OS.. im just attempting a dual boot here..
[03:34] <mn> hey
[03:34] <sixth> bobertdos: i will reboot now to check
[03:34] <sixth> brb
[03:34] <J-n> tarrant thanks, i was kinda wondering... lol.. kept finding much more intresting programs via synaptic than add/remove
[03:35] <Mustafa_Kaya> hey mn
[03:35] <v3ctor> Leefmcz: you said you don;t have linux installed
[03:35] <Mustafa_Kaya> mn: hey
[03:35] <Mustafa_Kaya> do you know how to achieve it?
[03:35] <Leefmcz> v3ctor: Yet, i'll be installing that soon (probably tomorrow, its late and i need to sleep for work)
[03:35] <[Neurotic]> Hi, I'm trying to debug a kernel panic I can reproduce with iwl4965, and I can get it to show in the alt+ctrl+f1 console, but its too big for my screen, so I can't see it all.   It didn't like being the 6th partition.
[03:35] <jrgp> ...
[03:36] <v3ctor> Leefmcz: you need to have it there to get grub to work properly
[03:36] <Leefmcz> v3ctor: If i install Ubuntu into my ubuntu partition, will it fix the GRUB thing?
[03:36] <jrgp> if it overwrites the boot record, yeah
[03:36] <Leefmcz> jrgp: Well, will it?
[03:37] <jrgp> it will install grub, in doing so it will set it up for your newly installed ubuntu and it will alsom most likely detect your windows partition too
[03:37] <jrgp> if it is still working
[03:37] <koshar1> Leefmcz it will because it will reinstall the grub files in /boot/grub
[03:37] <v3ctor> it will fix grub, and if you get lucky it will detect your windows and add that
[03:37] <Leefmcz> k, thanks. I'll install ubuntu again :)
[03:37] <jrgp> you won't regret it :)
[03:37] <Leefmcz> I was just trying to avoid the install time
[03:37] <koshar1> Leefmcz at the moment the stage one of grub is looking for them and they dont exist
[03:38] <koshar1> Leefmcz otherwise your options are to fix the windows bootloader
[03:38] <Leefmcz> jrgp: No trust me, im not leaving ubuntu. I kept my /home partition. I just wanted 20gig of windows for gaming, thats all
[03:38] <v3ctor> Leefmcz: you could learn the grub command line
[03:38] <koshar1>  Leefmcz and why do you need 6 partitions?
[03:38] <puff> I seem to be having a problem getting wireless working.  It *was* working okay, but now I don't seem to be able to get a response from DHCP servers.  This is the third network I've had the problem with, which would seem to rule out a problem with the router/WAP.
[03:39] <mn> what command do I do to find out the wireless card I have?
[03:39] <Leefmcz> koshar1: I forget how many it was exactly, but there was a boot, os, swap, /home, umm.. and somethin else, iirc
[03:39] <Leefmcz> koshar1: Windows wouldn't format, it said there were too many partitions.
[03:39] <Razer> keepsake, :'( port still closed
[03:39] <Leefmcz> koshar1: I had to put windows on the 2nd partition
[03:41] <jrgp> Leefmcz, if I were you I'd wipe the drive, install windows first, then install ubuntu; that'd probably make your situation easier to get out of
[03:41] <Leefmcz> jrgp: Blech, no time. If this works so be it, if not, then i need to copy a ton of data off of my /home
[03:42] <Flannel> Leefmcz: What are you doing?
[03:42] <jrgp> I'd have that data backed up first, before you do anything
[03:42] <puff> Can anybody help me troubleshoot my disappearing wireless?
[03:42] <Razer> keepsake, do you see anything wrong with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/47057/ ?
[03:42] <Leefmcz> Flannel: Making a mess of things, because windows is lame. :)
[03:42] <Flannel> Leefmcz: Ah.  Yeah, that happens.
[03:42] <kidd3ckz> theres no need for a windows channel to discuss problems
[03:43] <Leefmcz> Flannel: The story is long, but basically i had a ton of partitions (boot, home, swap, etc), and windows wouldn't install when it was the 6th partition. it said too many. So i removed my os partition, and put windows on that. Well now my GRUB is hosed, so im trying to install ubuntu
[03:43] <Leefmcz> Flannel: Install ubuntu, to fix GRUB.
[03:43] <Flannel> Leefmcz: ah, yeah.  Windows doesn't like being on a non-primary partition
[03:44] <Leefmcz> Flannel: So sd1 is boot, sd2 is windows, sd3 / is ubuntu.. which im trying to do now.
[03:44] <Leefmcz> Flannel: I hate windows. :)
[03:45] <Flannel> Leefmcz: If that doesn't work plain, you can map windows to think its sda1
[03:45] <Scruffy00> Help!  I can't get the mail notification sound in Evolution to work.  I have read the forums and researched google but nothing has worked.  I am using version <IP_ADDRESS> of Evolution on a Dell Inspiron 1420.  I am using Alsa also.  The file is .wav and can be heard using a media player.  Please someone help me.  I don't want to go back to Vista.
[03:46] <Leefmcz> Flannel: Question, i saved my /home, but im installing ubuntu now. However, im giving the OS partition a mapping of /, do i need to give my home partition a /home mount? I'm afraid of touching that partition, in fear of losing data
[03:46] <dashnu_> Scruffy00: rofl all because of a mail sound wow
[03:46] <Flannel> Leefmcz: Yeah, In the partitioner you say "use this partition as /home, but don't format it"
, yes you do
[03:46] <filsuf>  /close
[03:46] <Scruffy00> If I am going to switch I would like to have everything working.
[03:46] <palomino> Scruffy00: can't get enough of that AOL mail notification, eh?
[03:46] <Leefmcz> Flannel: What about the others? Does boot need /boot, or swap need any mount, etc?
[03:47] <jrgp> Leefmcz, no
[03:47] <jrgp> those can stay under the / partition
[03:47] <jrgp> wqait
[03:47] <jrgp> not swap
[03:47] <jrgp> the others yes
[03:47] <Scruffy00> Nah, Dr. Who.  I have to have the sound because I am away from my desk and sometimes an important e-mail comes that I will need.
[03:47] <Flannel> Leefmcz: Are you going to be using them as separate partitions? or getting rid of them as separate? (moving them under /) andyes, you need swap
[03:48] <Leefmcz> Flannel: They're already separate partitions, im just asking if they all need mount points. So far the only mount points i have defined are /home and /
[03:48] <fLufyz> hye
[03:48] <Flannel> Leefmcz: If you want to use them, yes, you'll specify that during the partition stage.
[03:49] <fallore> my sound isn't working, it was very recently, i have no idea why and didn't change anything. ideas?
[03:49] <Leefmcz> Flannel: Well do i need to specify mounts for a boot and swap partitions? Those are the only others
[03:49] <fLufyz> what is the antivirus in ubuntu
[03:49] <Flannel> Leefmcz: yes.  Well, swap just gets marked as swap, it doesn't really have a mount point.
[03:49] <jrgp> fLufyz, ubuntu does not typtically need anti virus
[03:49] <puff> Hm, dmesg has lines saying:  "ipw2200:  Failed to send SYSTEM_CONFIG: Already sending a command"
[03:49] <Cpudan80> fLufyz: you really dont need one
[03:49] <pawan> hi
[03:50] <fLufyz> oohh..ok..
[03:50] <jrgp> fLufyz, only windows needs anti virus
[03:50] <fLufyz> thanx jrgp & Cpudan80
[03:50] <jrgp> np
[03:50] <bobertdos> fLufyz: In fact, the one time I did try AV for Ubuntu, it actually corrupted my installation.
[03:50] <king> I has just GTalk in empathy?how can i add msn to it?
[03:50] <Leefmcz> Flannel: So boot is a mount of /boot then? Also, How do i mount the home partition? It says i have to choose a file system before i can mount, is that fine? (Ie, will choosing a file system format it? Again, i really need to protect the data on my home partition)
[03:50] <torvalds> jrgp: wrong. Linux users are just as vulnerable to virii
[03:50] <Leefmcz> Flannel: Just dont check format and im fine?
[03:51] <jrgp> bot "just as:
[03:51] <Scruffy00> So apparently I am on my own?
[03:51] <jrgp> torvalds, you wouldn't happen to be......?
[03:51] <torvalds> jrgp: yes.
[03:51] <torvalds> jrgp: how else would I get this nick?
[03:51] <fallore> torvalds: luck
[03:51] <jrgp> indeed
[03:52] <R_YoYo_R> would torvalds really hang out in the ubuntu channel?
[03:52] <Flannel> Leefmcz: why are you against formatting /boot?
[03:52] <sixth> bobertdos, thanks alot :)
[03:52] <R_YoYo_R> i dont think so
[03:52] <Beck> what is difference between gnome and xfce?
[03:52] <torvalds> I don't go on IRC often. I'm just here to say hi to the community.
[03:52] <jrgp> xfce looks a little different and uses a lot less resources
[03:52] <R_YoYo_R> Beck: how the look and feel
[03:52] <jrgp> but is less feature packed
[03:53] <torvalds> Beck: try kde ;)
[03:53] <chubs_> torvalds, speak swedish ;)
[03:53] <Leefmcz> Flannel: Im not, im against formatting /home, but i think i got it worked out. I was asking before i tried it. Seems if you select efi, it doesn't give you control over formatting or mount point. So all is well i think :)
[03:53] <Beck> torvalds, is it better?
[03:53] <Leefmcz> Flannel: Sounds good aye?
[03:53] <bobertdos> sixth: Everything's working?
[03:53] <media> alright for the life of me I can not figure out how to make normal audio go through the coax digital out on this computer
[03:53] <Flannel> Leefmcz: Just make sure home is marked as used, but not format, yes.
[03:53] <media> it has an nforce chipset
[03:53] <^Phantom^> Okay, back
[03:53] <kapace> i have a printer that prints only test pages and stuff from smb... on normal (gedit) prints says on the LCD is "Flushing Buffer"
[03:53] <media> and I do have the iec thing checked in gnome
[03:53] <torvalds> chubs_: God kväll
[03:53] <media> but still nothing
[03:53] <^Phantom^> now, my last question
[03:54] <Leefmcz> Flannel: Well format is NOT checked. Thats for sure, i saw nothing that said "used" or anything. I assigned it to /home, and gave it a type of ext3 (which it already was). Format is not checked. All good?
[03:54] <media> can someone please help me with this issue
[03:54] <Flannel> Leefmcz: That's correct.  Givign it a mountpoint means "use this"
[03:54] <Leefmcz> k
[03:54] <Scruffy00> media don't feel bad all I got was mocked when I asked for help.
[03:54] <puff> Some of the google hits I'm seeing are related to wpa2, which reminds me that I was trying to get onto a wpa2 network the other night.  Does anybody know how I'd make absolutely sure my wireless isn't trying to go into wpa2 mode?
[03:54] <media> wonderful
[03:55] <fallore> Can anyone help me troubleshoot my sound? Everything is exactly as it was when it was working recently, except it just doesn't work.
[03:55] <puff> fallore: Did you try rebooting?
[03:55] <torvalds> Ubuntu är ett shitty Distro för noobs. Ni alla suger din mammas nipplar
[03:55] <Leefmcz> Flannel: Here goes hehe, afk for a few
[03:55] <fallore> puff: not yet, guess i should lol :X
[03:55] <jrgp> fallore, try changing the settings in alsamixer
[03:55] <puff> fallore: If it comes back after a reboot, you're having a lock contention issue.
[03:55] <^Phantom^> How do I go about mounting my shared folder "C:\ubuntu" in ubuntu?
[03:55] <wng_z3r0> Can anyone give me a link on going from windows ->ubuntu? All I've found is very simple guides like this is 'root' etc. I'm looking for something more in depth, thanks =)
[03:55] <devin> hi i want to know how to i use the Huawei E220 USB modem for Ubuntu 10
[03:55] <fLufyz> fallore : maybe your sound in mute mode
[03:55] <smm289> <--XPS1330 running ubuntu 8.04 32bit  any idea if I can run 64bit
[03:56] <puff> fallore: you shoulodn't have to reboot in linux :-).  But in this case, a common cause of disappearing sound is sound card resource lock contention.
[03:56] <^Phantom^> Through the vbox
[03:56] <devin> im in Malaysia and my service provider is Maxis
[03:56] <puff> fallore: Though, yeah, you should check alsamixer and make sure your sound isn't muted it.
[03:56] <mn> smm289: what kind of processor does your computer have?
[03:56] <Beck> ^Phantom^, read vbox manual :P
[03:56] <fallore> puff: it's not muted. what do i do about the sound card resource lock contention?
[03:57] <youknowme> Is this bad? http://pastebin.com/m36005458
[03:57] <smm289> mm: Core2Duo T7500 2.2
[03:57] <fallore> puff: actually pc speaker was muted but i changed it and nothing happened
[03:57] <Winston_SmithVT> What's the best way to secure the transmission web UI? It cames standard with the password but of course that's sent plain text, is there and way to secure this connection a bit better?
[03:57] <jrgp> https?
[03:57] <media> I am wondering if an update killed my spidif out because it used to work but not anymore
[03:57] <wng_z3r0> vpn
[03:57] <Flannel> Winston_SmithVT: Do you have control of both ends?
[03:57] <media> thinking about reinstalling and not updating
[03:57] <media> lol
[03:57] <media> then it should work
[03:57] <fLufyz> devin : try to create new dialer instead of using from given one
[03:57] <puff> fallore: Are you by any chance using ACPI?
[03:57] <J-n> torvalds the average user needs to get into linux somehow, and sadly most distro's aren't average user friendly. I'd agree though it's more for a person just weening themselves from the M$ teat.
[03:57] <Flannel> Winston_SmithVT: Oh "transmission" I see. nevermind.
[03:57] <fallore> puff: i'm not sure, what is it/how do i check?
[03:58] <Flannel> J-n: He's gone.
[03:58] <J-n> oh well
[03:58] <Winston_SmithVT> Flannel: Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. I wanna use it from anyplace
[03:58] <wng_z3r0> set up vpn
[03:58] <puff> fallore: Well, you reboot to see if that's the problem.  If it is, there are solutions, alsa daemon being one of them, but I'm not certain what the current best solution is.
[03:58] <puff> fallore: ls /proc/acpi
[03:58] <devin> there is a link here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Huawei
[03:58] <chubs_> J-n, probably wasn't linus either ;)
[03:58] <Winston_SmithVT> wng_z3r0: Can I use a VPN from a public computer? wouln't I need the VPN cleint?
[03:58] <youknowme> My RAIDed HDD is making a noise, I think it might be failing. But I don't understand this: http://pastebin.com/m36005458
[03:59] <devin> but it says Vodaphone can it be generic to other providers
[03:59] <Leefmcz> Flannel: Next time i setup an os though, i'm leaving the 2nd and maybe even 3rd partitions empty for another OS. :o
[03:59] <Geoffrey2> I use a wireless router to connect to the internet...recently, every time I start the computer, I need to go into Network, unlock, then re-enter the wireless password....
[03:59] <lymeca> I
[03:59] <fallore> puff: what should show up? i've got a list of things and some are blue
[03:59] <fallore> puff: i'm going to restart real quick to test the other thing, brb
[03:59] <puff> fallore: Main reason I ask is because there might be volume status under /proc somewhere, but I"m using an ibm with acpi, so I don't know.
[03:59] <lymeca> m trying to install hardy on a Macbook and it succeeded but GRUB won't work!  I'm in the live CD and am trying to finish installing GRUB, what can I do?
[03:59] <puff> fallore: less /proc/acpi/ibm/volume
[04:00] <monteiro> ola
[04:00] <arooni> with 320GB hard drive, 4GB ram... 1) how big should / be?  2) how big should swap be?  3) what order should it be partitioned in?  /, /home, swap?
[04:00] <Leefmcz> lymeca: Was it a full install? Im on a mac pro with no problems
[04:00] <fallore> puff: no such file or directory. restarting brb
[04:00] <wng_z3r0> Winston_SmithVT: It depends on what you want to do. Most popular web browsers can use vpn right out of the box, you just need to set it up
[04:00] <Flannel> arooni: How much RAM do you have?
[04:00] <amenado> Geoffrey2-> you can put that as an entry in your /etc/network/interfaces so no need to retype all every reboot
[04:00] <Flannel> arooni: Oh
[04:00] <smm289> is there a cpu-z for linux
[04:00] <Flannel> arooni: Is this a desktop or a laptop?
[04:00] <smm289> !cpu-z
[04:00] <puff> Does anybody know how I make absolutely certain my wireless isn't trying to use wpa or anything?
[04:00] <media> alright I am off to reinstall
[04:01] <media> bbl maybe
[04:01] <media> :D
[04:01] <arooni> Flannel, desktop
[04:01] <Winston_SmithVT> wng_z3r0: The local computer is locked down, can't change settings you can only browse pretty much. I can't even use a USB stick on this computer i'm worried about.
[04:01] <Geoffrey2> amenado, I'm just rather confused as to why the Network Settings manager wouldn't save that for me automatically
[04:01] <amenado> puff anything?
[04:01] <Flannel> arooni: 4G swap tops (likely less).  Since you've got 320G, you can splurge a little and give yourself like 30G for / and then /home for the rest.    Also,
[04:03] <fallore> puff: jrgp: everyone else: sound is working :D thanks
[04:03] <Flannel> !fixres | SmoothPorcupine
[04:03] <^Phantom^> what is a .daa file ?
[04:03] <jrgp> Scruffy00, ditch eveloution and try thunderbird?
[04:03] <J-n> Scruffy00 i'd be happy to but i do not use evolution. i'm sorry.
[04:03] <Geoffrey2> amenado, I'm not doing this from the command line...this is the wlan0 properties menu, which has entries for the password type, and a place to enter the password....
[04:04] <bobertdos> Scruffy00, I second jrgp's suggestion :D
[04:04] <arooni> thanks Flannel
[04:04] <smm289> I have 32bit 8.04 installed and im pretty happy with my settings, would I have to completly start over if I wanted to install the 64bit version
[04:04] <HardDisk> ^Phantom^, it's a cd/dvd image format
[04:04] <mn> If mustafa_kaya comes back because he already got a driver and still cant get on the internet, have him get the firmware he need from here:  http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/firmware.php  plzz
[04:04] <danbh_intrepid> smm289: short answer, stick with 32bit
[04:04] <Flannel> smm289: You'd have to reinstall.  That doesn't necessarily mean lose your settings.
[04:04] <Scruffy00> I would like to use thunderbird but I like the PDA features with Evolution.  If I use Thunderbird is there a program to handle my calendar and contacts the way Evolution does?
[04:04] <amenado> Geoffrey2-> well as you already knew, it does not keep it permanent, so you must edit the interfaces file
[04:04] <jrgp> Scruffy00, sunbird
[04:04] <HardDisk> Scruffy00, yes, check out thunderbird's addons
[04:05] <Flannel> Lightning, not Sunbird
[04:05] <bobertdos> Scruffy00: or within thunderbird, you can use the lightning extension
[04:05] <^Phantom^> k thx
[04:05] <^Phantom^> cause i can't find my win98 cd
[04:05] <Odditie> Can anyone help me with my soundcard problem?
[04:05] <puff> amenado: Please be helpful or try not to add to the confusion.
[04:05] <deuterium> hi, where can i find these alfresco debs for ubuntu? http://www.cmswire.com/cms/enterprise-cms/canonical-bundles-alfresco-enterprise-cms-and-ubuntu-linux-002977.php
[04:05] <smm289> ok, how would I install a fresh version of linux but bring everyting back to the way my system is right now
[04:05] <smm289> similiar to an image backup with windows
[04:06] <Scruffy00> Will it sync with a Palm Treo 650?  Will the PDA software that comes with Gnome work that way with Thunderbird?
[04:06] <jrgp> smm289, boot to an ubuntu cd, wipe the drive, and reinstall
[04:06] <amenado> puff am not, just make sure your statements are clear..
[04:06] <^Phantom^> i can only find a .daa format image in torrent format
[04:06] <Odditie> I can get OSS to work, but not ALSA, it cannot find my soundcard now
[04:07] <SmoothPorcupine> 1
[04:07] <puff> amenado: Given the context, it's quite clear what "anything" means.
[04:07] <smm289> wow, hows that going to keep everything the same as I have it right now.  For example, can I make a backup that would allow me to setup ubuntu on a new hard drive but with all of the applications and settings I currently have
[04:07] <argento> did any buddy ever had problems with fast user switch, some times it does not come back to gdm nor the pop up windows asking the password, it goes to terminal...
[04:07] <InHisName> I have problems loading a page into my firefox in ubuntu. Probalby a java thing. I have most loaded right I think.  http://pastebin.com/m38215f53  around line 101 is error   applet not iniitialized.   How do I fix this website to have its applet be initialized.?  http://cbtdirect.skillport.com/skillportfe/login/login.cfm   In the pastebin is copy of all the terminal error and process messages while loading the page.  Also included
[04:07] <Winston_SmithVT> Well whoever mentioned SSL, Thanks. It looks like I might be able to use stunnel to run a SSL tunnel.
[04:07] <Flannel> smm289: Well, you can keep your homedir, which has all your user settings.
[04:07] <danbh_intrepid> !backup > smm289
[04:07] <Flannel> !cloning | smm289
[04:08] <argento> did any buddy ever had problems with fast user switch, some times it does not come back to gdm nor the pop up windows asking the password, it goes to terminal...???
[04:08] <amenado> puff not to me, since you prefer to argue rather than clarify, am not assisting you
[04:08] <SmoothPorcupine> 1ACTION seriously hopes the link will help1
[04:08] <Geoffrey2> curious....the interfaces file already has a wpa-psk line for my wireless device...
[04:08] <kapace> whats the difference between using && and ; to separate commands?
[04:09] <J-n> ^phantom^ use poweriso to decode, translate, or burn a .daa file
[04:09] <jrgp> kapace, && makes sure the first one works before going onto the second
[04:09] <bobertdos> Scruffy00: Ah, okay, if that's what you're doing, maybe we should try helping you with Evolution :p
[04:09] <puff> amenado: It's cool, if you don't know, that's okay.
[04:09] <kapace> thanks jrgp
[04:09] <Scruffy00> That would be great bobertdos.
[04:09] <puff> amenado: But thank you for at least confirming that other people can hear me :-).
[04:10] <puff> fallore: Okay, so the basic fix for the problem - which is that the hardware only provides one sound resource lock and the OS can't release it, so the first app to request it has a monopoly on it - is to insert a layer of software between the hardware and everything else.   Used to be this was a package called esd, then IIRC, alsa superceded that.   I think that's still the current solution.
[04:10] <puff> fallore: But I'
[04:10] <bobertdos> Scruffy00: I'm googling and I'm beginning to see that Treo's and Thunderbird haven't been mixing so well.
[04:10] <puff> fallore: But I'm on a borrowed laptop, so until I fix my wireless I can't give you more help.
[04:10] <fallore> puff: alright, thanks, i'll look into it
[04:11] <Scruffy00> bobertdos:  I noticed that too.  I am dual booting with Vista, but I don't like Outlook and I really am not fond of Vista.  I like Evolution and like Ubuntu, but I need the mail notification to work because I am not always around my laptop and sometimes I need to know when an e-mail arrives.
[04:12] <^Phantom^> i want to try vboxing winvista now :D
[04:13] <feng_> can you use wireless in ubuntu ?
[04:13] <puff> feng_: I'm actually looking for help wtih that :-).
[04:13] <^Phantom^> would it work in xp?
[04:13] <feng_> yes ,
[04:13] <puff> feng_: But generally, yes.
[04:13] <LSD|Ninja> feng_: sure. How easy it is depend on what wifi chip you have though
[04:13] <feng_> intel 3945
[04:13] <bobertdos> Scruffy00: Unfortunately, not having used Evolution much, I don't know how much help I can be.
[04:14] <LSD|Ninja> feng_: that should work out of the box
[04:14] <feng_> i've tried several times
[04:14] <J-n> scruffy00 do you have the plugin enabled?
[04:14] <feng_> i'm not sure
[04:14] <Scruffy00> bobertdos:  I appreciate the effort though.  I just wish I knew what to do.
[04:15] <LSD|Ninja> feng_: All the drivers and whatnot are present and loaded for those. All you need to do is set up your wifi lan in network manager
[04:15] <feng_> all done in ubuntu but wireless chip ,
[04:15] <Scruffy00> J-n:  Do you mean by going in to Edit>Plugins>finding Mail Notification and making sure the box is checked?
[04:15] <LSD|Ninja> feng_: what version of Ubuntu?
[04:15] <J-n> scruffy00 yeah
[04:15] <feng_> 8.04
[04:16] <Scruffy00> J-n: yeah, the box has been checked
[04:16] <feng_> what does it mean
[04:16] <LSD|Ninja> feng_: then it should work fine
[04:16] <bobertdos> Scruffy00: Let me just ask you this, what would be the ideal notification for you?
[04:17] <^Phantom^> is it possible to vbox vista on xp?
[04:17] <Leefmc> Flannel: You awake?
[04:17] <Scruffy00> A sound of somekind.  Currently in Vista I have a sound from Dr. Who.  That way it's distinct.  I work at a radio station so I need something to stand out.
[04:17] <Leefmc> jrgp: You awake?
[04:17] <pyrak> i just copied .mozilla-thunderbird from my old home, now when i start hunderbird it says its already running.  i need to delete a journal file or something, right?
[04:18] <pyrak> any help appreciated
[04:18] <Geoffrey2> every time I turn on the computer, I need to go into Network Settings, and manually reenter the WPA passkey in the wlan0 properties window, this USED to be handled automatically, now it isn't....the problem seems to have started when I switched from Roaming mode to specifying a specific wireless network to connect to
[04:18] <LSD|Ninja> Geoffrey2: isn't there a checkbox to save it?
[04:18] <smm289> If I use Home User Backup, and I have to replace a hard-drive, I just install ubuntu on the new drive and then use Home User Restore.  Then will everything be put back to the way it was before the failure.  I dont mean data I mean EVERYTHING
[04:19] <danbh_intrepid> Geoffrey2: /etc/network/interfaces is not too hard to setup, maybe you should try that
[04:19] <pyrak> i just copied .mozilla-thunderbird from my old home, now when i start hunderbird it says its already running.  i think i need to delete a file that thunderbird makes
[04:19] <LSD|Ninja> sucks for roaming though
[04:19] <pyrak> while it's running.  any ideas?