[11:57] <ChunHere> ok for the nvidia- stuff what's not installed?
[11:57] <bulltitan> you'll be cool jessi trust me
[11:58] <jessi> hehe
[11:58] <jessi> ok
[11:58] <jessi> nvclock
[11:58] <jessi> nvclock-gtk
[11:58] <jessi> nvclock-qt
[11:58] <jessi> nvidia-glx-dev
[11:58] <jessi> nvidia-glx-legacy
[11:58] <jessi> nvidia-glx-legacy-dev
[11:59] <jessi> nvidia-kernel-source
[11:59] <jessi> nvidia-legacy-kernel-source
[11:59] <jessi> nvidia-settings
[11:59] <jessi> nvidia-xconfig
[11:59] <jessi> nvtv
[11:59] <jessi> ... done
[12:00] <ChunHere> do you got nvidia-kernel-common?
[12:00] <wojtek> witam wszystkich
[12:00] <jessi> yes - it's installed
[12:01] <ChunHere> try installing the settings and xconfig one
[12:01] <bulltitan> i dunno if this have something to do but chun remember that i made hi do a "sudo apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)"
[12:01] <wojtek> poland ??
[12:02] <ChunHere> also, search for linux-source and then install that, that's the kernel source usu good to have that around,
[12:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> anybody can think a way to have the skype transfer data printed on the desktop?
[12:02] <ChunHere> andrisp what are you talking about 3 package managers?
[12:03] <jessi> ok - i'm downloading
[12:04] <andrisp> ChunHere: Adept, Synaptic and one Ubuntu-specific update manager (In Menu it's called Package Manager (Add application))
[12:04] <ChunHere> i dunno why all distributions decide not to install the kernel-source in a base install, aye would solve soo many headaches w/ people trying to install drivers
[12:05] <probono> beacuse it takes space and compiling shouldn't be necessary for end users
[12:05] <bulltitan> jessi i tell you,.. even if i have to leave my putter on all day and poke chun with a stick to make your 5200 to work i will,.... me in bed off course in an alcoholic coma  joke chun
[12:05] <probono> personally i hate having to compile stuff
[12:05] <probono> always takes a while and mostly produces cryptic errors
[12:06] <probono> you need a cs phd to understand them ;)
[12:06] <ChunHere> andrisp, all of those are just GUI's to the command line tool apt-get, KDE users use adept, GNOME and others use synaptic
[12:07] <ChunHere> haha night bulltitan
[12:07] <Chousuke> compiling stuff is annoying. Especially if you wrote the code yourself and it fails to compile and you have to fix it.
[12:07] <bulltitan> :P
[12:09] <ChunHere> chousuke, yea but if you need to install a driver and you can't find it in the repository, u usually hafta resort to going for the source way to install it
[12:09] <ChunHere> and you need it for the ATI driver package on the ati site
[12:09] <Chousuke> ChunHere: well, yeah.
[12:09] <Chousuke> though ati drivers are in the repostory.
[12:09] <Chousuke> +i
[12:10] <Chousuke> they're in "restricted"
[12:11] <probono> hopefully someone writes a "stable" kernel interface soon
[12:11] <bulltitan> you know why this happens because ati and nvidia are like "yes sir" type they all respond well to microdump
[12:11] <probono> so that kernel modules don't need to change when the kernel changes
[12:11] <ChunHere> yea they are but not the newest versions of the drivers, not just video drivers but also wireless and other stuff that people need
[12:12] <ChunHere> how's things going jessi?
[12:15] <Davidosky> how can i add a new user on kubuntu from console? (i can't use KDE, it's broken :S )
[12:15] <ChunHere> -->    sudo adduser David
[12:15] <bulltitan> gee 7:13 here,...gotta get some sleep,.. you're just right there jessi just don't give up on kubuntu,.. have some cofee,... smokes,...etc but in the end you will love kubuntu for what it worth
[12:15] <Davidosky> thx
[12:15] <bulltitan> tata chun tc
[12:15] <johan_> mp3 amorok is not working :|
[12:16] <bulltitan> johan follow wiki's johan! it works believe me!
[12:16] <Bazzi> ubotu: tell johan_ about restrictedformats
[12:16] <ChunHere> it's 3:15am here in california
[12:16] <bulltitan> just get xine's libs
[12:16] <johan_> I know built :p but i am searching for that :P
[12:16] <bulltitan> i'm out now
[12:17] <bulltitan> see u soon chun tata
[12:17] <ChunHere> see ya bulltitan
[12:17] <ChunHere> anyone here got ragnarok online working in wine?
[12:18] <Terminus> ChunHere: let me guess, game guard problems? =D
[12:18] <Healot> not with WINE, Cedega could handle that better
[12:18] <ChunHere> yea terminus
[12:18] <Terminus> ChunHere: AFAIK, it's never been done...
[12:19] <ChunHere> i used cvs wine and cedega source, still couldn't get it
[12:19] <ChunHere> doh ><
[12:19] <ChunHere> i got it to complain only about 1 file ndis.sys
[12:19] <Terminus> ChunHere: i'm just guessing, but maybe it's a process spawning problem...
[12:21] <Davidosky> i'm in trouble with kubuntu... when i start it, in the login window, i set user and password but KDE doens't want starts
[12:21] <ChunHere> sigh*
[12:22] <ChunHere> what's it say? something lock?
[12:22] <Davidosky> kde, alway come back to the login window
[12:23] <Davidosky> no error here
[12:23] <Davidosky> i have installed kubuntu dapper 6.06 from "desktop" cd.... (live+install)
[12:24] <andrisp> is there an alternative in linux for winscp ?
[12:24] <Healot> PPP script?
[12:25] <ChunHere> ...... it's probably a software lock somewhere, i would just reinstall again if you just installed from the livecd(don't do anything while you're installing)
[12:25] <ChunHere> winscp is the best
[12:26] <ChunHere> there's alternatives but they usu cost money and are crappy
[12:26] <andrisp> ChunHere: I found in adept putty tools and secpanel
[12:26] <andrisp> i'll try those
[12:26] <ChunHere> oooh in linux ok
[12:26] <ChunHere> no you don't need to
[12:27] <ChunHere> open a konqueror window
[12:27] <RandomDude15> hey
[12:27] <RandomDude15> I need help
[12:27] <RandomDude15> upgrading
[12:27] <RandomDude15> to kubuntu
[12:27] <RandomDude15> 6.06
[12:27] <RandomDude15> from kubuntu 5.10
[12:27] <joch> andrisp: open konqueror and write fish://user@server
[12:27] <jpatrick> !upgrade
[12:27] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[12:27] <ChunHere> and type in<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:27] <ChunHere> the konqueror window can be used like winscp
[12:28] <andrisp> fish or sftp ?
[12:28] <ChunHere> try either and see what works for you ;)
[12:29] <andrisp> ok i'll try, but this secpanel has ankward interface
[12:29] <joch> andrisp: i think fish uses scp and sftp uses the sftp subsystem
[12:29] <jessi> hi chun
[12:30] <ChunHere> hey jessi
[12:31] <ChunHere> how's everything so far?
[12:31] <jessi> jap
[12:31] <jessi> i downloaded all the pakets
[12:32] <jessi> and now?
[12:32] <andrisp> is it possible to get konqueror show me side by side server directory and localhost directory ? like in MC and WinSCP ?
[12:33] <ChunHere> open up a konsole, K->system->konsole
[12:33] <jessi> ok
[12:33] <jessi> done
[12:33] <Robert_S> Hi folks.  A quick question.  I've just installed the latest kubuntu and can't find some of my favorites.  Which repo can you find mc (midnight commander) and knode on.  I thought knode would be easy to find because its an "official" KDe package.
[12:34] <ChunHere> hmm ok, type in nvidia and press tab, there should be one called xconfig i think
[12:35] <ChunHere> yea andrisp - click on view in the toolbar
[12:36] <ChunHere> mc should be there, if not, enable some of the repositories in the package manager
[12:36] <ChunHere> that was to robert*
[12:36] <jessi> when i type in "nvidia" and press return then "bash: nvidia: command not found"
[12:36] <ChunHere> don't press return, just nvidia and press tab
[12:37] <jessi> and then?
[12:37] <ChunHere> it'll try to autocomplete but there's probably a few other commands it lists out?
[12:38] <jessi> no... nothing,...
[12:38] <jessi> "nvidia-"
[12:38] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[12:39] <rysiek|pl> anybody knows what are the three ints in: dcop ksmserver ksmserver logout $Int1 $Int2 $Int3? can't seem to find it anywhere in the docs
[12:39] <rysiek|pl> nor through google
[12:39] <jessi> Chun: Ok...
[12:39] <andrisp> ChunHere: can't find this option
[12:39] <ChunHere> =/ alrite lemme check up something again,
[12:40] <jessi> @chun:
[12:40] <jessi> jessi@jessitux:~$ sudo nvidia-xconfig
[12:40] <jessi> Password:
[12:40] <jessi> Using X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[12:40] <jessi> Backed up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'
[12:40] <jessi> New X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[12:40] <jessi> jessi@jessitux:~$
[12:40] <slow-motion> bbl
[12:40] <ChunHere> ooh ok good so it autoconfigured it for you
[12:41] <ChunHere> ok so now you can restart and check if everything works but
[12:41] <jessi> yes?
[12:42] <ChunHere> if that X file that it made isn't good then you're gonna hafta copy that backup file over it through the konsole
[12:43] <jessi> with cp (backup) (original)?
[12:43] <ChunHere> yes
[12:43] <jessi> ok... see you
[12:43] <ChunHere> ok see ya jessi
[12:43] <andrisp> is it possible to disable antialiasing for specific program ?
[12:44] <ChunHere> andrisp when you open up a konqueror window, there should be "location edit view bookmarks ..." in the toolbar click on view and then you can select different view modes
[12:45] <andrisp> yes, i know this, but there is no two panel option
[12:46] <mike__> Hi gang!  Can any one give me some help/advice on fixing a minor wireless problem (bcm43xx related)?
[12:46] <ChunHere> right below "view mode", there's "split view"
[12:49] <andrisp> i don't have it.. maybe because i have KDE/Konqueror 3.4.3
[12:49] <ChunHere> ahhhhh i hate wireless problems >< the first distro that got my wireless working outta the box is kubuntu 6.06, before that i just used a long wire =p i think you hafta use ndiswrapper or something
[12:50] <Healot> not if you got the supported wifi card :-
[12:50] <ChunHere> oooh, old ubuntu andrisp, yep
[12:51] <jessi> Hi chung
[12:51] <jessi> chun
[12:51] <andrisp> i tried to upgrade to new 6.06 version, but there was some kind of error
[12:51] <ChunHere> hey jessi
[12:51] <mike__> I had my wifi card working under Breezy with ndiswrapper and it sort of works under dapper with bcm43xx, but every now and then it fails.
[12:52] <jessi> yeah!
[12:52] <ChunHere> hahaha, works good jessi??
[12:52] <jessi> now i can use "glxgears"
[12:52] <mike__> For some reason, the system occasionally initializes the wireless card as eth2 (normally it is eth1).
[12:52] <jessi> but
[12:53] <jessi> is it normal that the ... (hm,... i don
[12:53] <jessi> t know the word) are so damn slowly
[12:53] <jessi> ?
[12:53] <ChunHere> oh gears? that's fine
[12:53] <jessi> jap
[12:53] <jessi> ok
[12:54] <ChunHere> i can't speak jap, i'm abc(american born taiwanese-chinese  =p)
[12:54] <andrisp> sorry for asking again - is it possible to disable anti-aliasing in Quanta ?
[12:54] <jessi> hehe... thats ok chun
[12:55] <jessi> many thx 4 your help
[12:55] <ChunHere> let glxgears run for a minute, i think it should give you a framerate it'll say "some number" fps
[12:55] <jessi> ok i try it
[12:56] <Robert_S> I've just been using adept and its crashed about 4 times.  Can anybody tell me why?
[12:56] <apokryphos> Robert_S: start it from the terminal....... any useful output?
[12:56] <Nightrose> hi iv got a problem installing a programm called tvbrowser - it needs java5-jre and it cant be installed
[12:56] <ChunHere> or just use the package manager to download some 3d game, like x-moto or penguin racer, if it runs fine then you are ok *thumbs up* =)
[12:56] <andrisp> jessi, i just tried glxgears too, and find out that i have the same problem that you had .. what was the solution ? =)
[12:57] <jessi> oh... andrisp... try to ask chun
[12:57] <Robert_S> How do I paste the output into Konversation?  I'm new to this
[12:57] <ChunHere> depends on your video card andrisp do you have ati or nvidia?
[12:57] <andrisp> nvidia
[12:58] <ChunHere> i think you've been in this room long enough, you should be able to see my messages if you scroll up ><
[12:58] <andrisp> ok, i'll try
[12:58] <Eviscares> hello
[12:58] <ChunHere> shift + ins  is paste in konsole and konversation
[01:00] <Healot> ChunHere: familiar with LVM?
[01:00] <Eviscares> could someone give a total linux newbie (namely me :)) some tipps for installing kubuntu?
[01:00] <ChunHere> oh haha, no i'm not a sys admin healot
[01:00] <weedar> Is there any way to disable tapping=click behaviour for a laptop-mousepad?
[01:00] <Chousuke> Eviscares: Put the CD in the drive, boot it, and install
[01:00] <Chousuke> Eviscares: Then after installation, see EasyUbuntu
[01:00] <Eviscares> I meant more along the lines of how to setup my HDD's
[01:01] <jessi> hehe... chun: the game penguin racer is very slowly
[01:01] <Chousuke> Eviscares: well, it depends.
[01:01] <Bladesonfire> Does anyone know if the PPC version of the server install CD does not include the easy LAMP install option?
[01:01] <ChunHere> can you run xmoto jessi?
[01:01] <Eviscares> Chousuke: depends upon what?
[01:01] <Chousuke> Eviscares: how many HDs do you have? how much free space?
[01:01] <jessi> chun - i'll try it
[01:02] <bajker_>  /msg nickserv link bajker suprbajk
[01:02] <Chousuke> and do they work, or are you having trouble with them or something?
[01:02] <bajker_> wtf
[01:02] <Robert_S> Has anybody answered  my question about pasting in the konsole output?  Unfortunately I go the "blue gears of death" (KDE crash handler) in konversation
[01:02] <ChunHere> hey chousuke is your name based on chouji + sasuke from naruto? =D
[01:02] <Chousuke> ChunHere: no.
[01:02] <Healot> naruto geeks...
[01:02] <Healot> cool
[01:02] <Eviscares> Chousuke: HDs:3 Partitions:4 free space: 1,8,3 and 3 gb no problems with anything
[01:03] <Chousuke> hmm
[01:03] <Chousuke> You should install ubuntu on the 8GB partition
[01:03] <afm\colossus> how can i increase kde's/konqueror's maximal number of concurrent HTTP-connections?
[01:03] <ChunHere> haha, haven't watched it on cartoon network tho i hate dubs
[01:04] <afm\colossus> or how am I able to enable HTTP1.1 for KDE/Konqu?
[01:04] <Eviscares> Chousuke:Ok, anyo other very important things?
[01:04] <Chousuke> Or perhaps install Ubuntu on the 3GB partition and have your /home (user directories) on the 8GB partition.
[01:04] <Healot> afm\colossus: konq does support HTTP 1.1
[01:05] <Eviscares> Chousuke: I thought about clearing up the 1gb partition, as it is already my win partition with my other proggys, and then putting it there for the sake of order
[01:05] <afm\colossus> Healot: yeah, i hope so, but is it enabled by default?
[01:05] <jessi> chun: all the games (xmoto, penguin racer) are very slow and don't run floatly
[01:05] <Chousuke> Eviscares: it would be best if you could unify that space.
[01:05] <Healot> yes... afm\colossus
[01:06] <Eviscares> Chousuke: you mean make an extra partition for kubuntu?
[01:06] <Healot> there is no need to turn on/off like IE does...
[01:06] <Chousuke> Eviscares: I think the default install needs at least 2 GB of space.
[01:06] <afm\colossus> Healot: konqueror often fails fetching multiple images from a single http-source
[01:06] <afm\colossus> any ideas why?
[01:06] <Chousuke> Eviscares: You can install a more customised setup too, though.
[01:06] <ChunHere> i would do / on 8gb, swap on 1gb, /home on 3gb always can add new hdd or flash drive or something for user files
[01:06] <Chousuke> Eviscares: but it requires some knowledge of how APT works and all.
[01:07] <Eviscares> chousuke:ok
[01:07] <Healot> afm\colossus: higher cache value...
[01:07] <afm\colossus> what should cache have to do with http-connection?
[01:07] <Eviscares> chousuke:well, i can get used to that. but I have to set up the sys at first
[01:07] <ChunHere> type in glxinfo in konsole jessi
[01:08] <ChunHere> and scroll up see if it has "direct rendering: Yes"
[01:08] <Chousuke> Eviscares: Well, I suggest you get at least 2 GB of space for kubuntu
[01:08] <Eviscares> Chousuke: ok ^^
[01:08] <afm\colossus> Healot: strange, it's actually working
[01:09] <afm\colossus> i fail to understand the "Logic" behind, though ;)
[01:09] <Healot> which part, afm\colossus?
[01:09] <Healot> the cache part?
[01:09] <afm\colossus> yes
[01:10] <Healot> oh, neither do I, but the logic imho, the more space more download ?
[01:10] <Healot> as smaller cache size erases the previously download files
[01:11] <jessi> @chun
[01:11] <jessi> name of display: :0.0
[01:11] <jessi> display: :0  screen: 0
[01:11] <jessi> direct rendering: No
[01:11] <h3sp4wn> Has anyone experience of building fglrx-kernel-source against 2.6.16
[01:11] <ChunHere> ><
[01:12] <Healot> h3sp4wn: in breezy the build always fail
[01:12] <Eviscares> Chousuke: thanks ^^
[01:12] <Healot> but after tweaking the config file, it works, but the module crashes a lot
[01:13] <h3sp4wn> Healot: I can build it manually but only once  (but it has a tweak that makes the screen clearer with dvi)
[01:13] <jessi> @chun: how to activate "direct rendering"?
[01:13] <slow-motion> re
[01:13] <Healot> the build works, but crashes a lot, so i am sticking to the stock...
[01:14] <h3sp4wn> Healot: Do you ever get lockups on shutdown
[01:14] <Healot> yeah/// that's what I mean, and sometime lockup when playing OpenGL games
[01:15] <ChunHere> type this in konsole jessi  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep Driver
[01:15] <ChunHere> tell me the last 2 driver lines
[01:15] <h3sp4wn> Healot: I don't get that with installing it manually (without the packages) but there are some modifications in it I would like to apply
[01:16] <jessi> root@jessitux:~# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep Driver
[01:16] <jessi>         Driver          "kbd"
[01:16] <jessi>         Driver          "mouse"
[01:16] <jessi>   Driver        "wacom"
[01:16] <jessi>   Driver        "wacom"
[01:16] <jessi>   Driver        "wacom"
[01:16] <jessi>         Driver          "nv"
[01:16] <iNiku> jessi: useless use of cat :)
[01:16] <ChunHere> ah it served it's purpose =p
[01:17] <jessi> hm?
[01:17] <Healot> cat is cute :)
[01:18] <jessi> and now?
[01:19] <ChunHere> don't worry bout niku =p ok, type in sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:19] <jessi> ok
[01:19] <jessi> done :)
[01:20] <ChunHere> it should open up a text editor w/ that file
[01:20] <ChunHere> go to the bottom, see if there's a Section "DRI"
[01:20] <jessi> ok
[01:21] <jessi> Section "DRI"
[01:21] <jessi> 	Mode	0666
[01:21] <jessi> EndSection
[01:21] <ChunHere> ok good, now at the top, there's Section "Module"
[01:21] <jessi> ok
[01:21] <ChunHere> there should be a bunch of Load "something" lines
[01:22] <jessi> 	Load	"i2c"
[01:22] <jessi> 	Load	"bitmap"
[01:22] <jessi> 	Load	"ddc"
[01:22] <jessi> 	Load	"dri"
[01:22] <jessi> 	Load	"extmod"
[01:22] <jessi> 	Load	"freetype"
[01:22] <jessi> 	Load	"glx"
[01:22] <jessi> 	Load	"int10"
[01:22] <jessi> 	Load	"type1"
[01:22] <jessi> 	Load	"vbe"
[01:22] <jessi> EndSection
[01:22] <ChunHere> there should be a 	Load  "dri"  if not
[01:22] <ChunHere> oh ok it's there
[01:22] <iNiku> jessi: yeah, don't worry, it's just a kind of internet/unix tradition :)  the same could have been achieved with "grep driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf", hence "useless use of cat". not at all serious. :)
[01:23] <jessi> :) ok niku
[01:24] <ChunHere> ack i think your nvidia driver wasn't installed w/ dri ><
[01:25] <iNiku> ChunHere: um, you're not supposed to use dri with the nvidia driver
[01:25] <saxofun> hi
[01:25] <iNiku> ChunHere: at least not on XFree, I'm pretty sure the same applies to X.org
[01:25] <ChunHere> whoops not that dri niku, i meant direct rendering
[01:26] <iNiku> ChunHere: yes, the dri module
[01:26] <iNiku> ChunHere: you're not supposed to use it with the nvidia driver
[01:26] <omega--> It's a shame that guidance doesn't work in KDE.
[01:26] <omega--> All this text-file editing should really be unnecessarry.
[01:27] <ChunHere> oh ok, didn't kno
[01:28] <iNiku> nvidia has pretty good documentation on how to set up the driver, in the README that comes with the driver
[01:28] <ChunHere> you know which modules are needed Niku?
[01:29] <iNiku> ChunHere: I think only glx for nvidia's direct rendering stuff
[01:29] <Bladesonfire> Twinview and tv-out was really easy to setup using that README
[01:29] <iNiku> ChunHere: can't remember, but it's all in the README
[01:30] <iNiku> http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/index.html
[01:31] <iNiku> actually http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/chapter-03-section-02.html
[01:34] <ChunHere> jessi? u still here?
[01:34] <jessi> yes
[01:34] <jessi> ok - so i have to use the manual?
[01:35] <jessi> looks simple
[01:35] <ChunHere> you should download the nvidia driver package
[01:35] <ChunHere> and follow the instructions and run that
[01:35] <jessi> hm? i don't did it until now?
[01:37] <ChunHere> for some reason, the nvidia-xconfig didn't want to choose the right driver
[01:37] <jessi> oh - ok
[01:38] <ChunHere> and setup your card dfferently, so you need to run the package,
[01:40] <ChunHere> you already got kernel source which is what you need for this part,
[01:40] <jessi> ok - i try it
[01:40] <jessi> see you later
[01:40] <ChunHere> see you jessi, i'm going to sleep 4am here -_-
[01:41] <ChunHere> copy your xorg.conf file in case of any problems
[01:41] <andrisp> if i want to restart X, is it enough to just logout and log in ?
[01:42] <Bladesonfire> No.... logout and ctrl+alt+delete
[01:42] <andrisp> ok
[01:43] <Robert_S> Try ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:43] <Bladesonfire> Oops
[01:43] <Bladesonfire> Eh, left already =/
[01:44] <ChunHere> goodnight everyone
[01:44] <Bladesonfire> Goodnight
[01:44] <thoreauputic> hmm the script works at least...
[01:49] <LeeJunFan> ug, slashdot sure renders like crap in konqueror now.
[01:50] <Bazzi> the irony :)
[01:50] <Healot> Slashdot is for Internet Explorer only?
[01:50] <jessi> how can i stop the x-server and working only on konsole?
[01:50] <Healot> fire up a virtual terminal
[01:51] <ndazza> firefox perhaps?
[01:51] <Nightrose> hi its me once again - im trying to install java-5-jre but it isnt working - this is the output i get: http://cl1p.net/nightrose
[01:51] <Healot> "invoke-rc.d kdm stop"
[01:51] <Nightrose> can someone tell me why it fails?
[01:51] <Bladesonfire> Nightrose: it needs to install the dependencies
[01:52] <Bladesonfire> Oh, nvm
[01:52] <Nightrose> i see but its not working :-(
[01:53] <andrisp> I did sudo nvidia-glx-config enable, but was unable to start xwindows after that.. there is error -> http://paste.php.lv/3870 .. any help ?
[01:54] <ndazza> the dapper drake desktop cd hangs at bootup for me, no error message. Stops working after the message 'mounting root partitions'
[01:54] <defrysk> andrisp, in dapper do "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[01:54] <Bladesonfire> Nightrose: all I can see is it's not showing you the license for you to agree
[01:54] <user-land> hello, is there a quickstart guide to kubuntu ?
[01:55] <Bladesonfire> Nightrose: "1 not fully installed or removed." doesn't seem to be good, either
[01:55] <Bladesonfire> But sorry, don't know how to fix the problems
[01:55] <Healot> user-land: yeah, KDE Menu -> Help
[01:55] <Bladesonfire> Do you already have another Java installed?
[01:56] <Nightrose> jea maybe but that shouldnt be a problem right? - and as it seems it already hangs when unpacking
[01:56] <andrisp> defrysk: i don't have dapper and nvidia-xconfig
[01:56] <user-land> is kubuntu going to give me access to all the partitions i have on the disks in my computer ?
[01:56] <defrysk> andred, and older nvidia-card perjhaps ?
[01:56] <defrysk> andrisp, that is
[01:56] <Bladesonfire> You downloaded the .bin from Java and installed that, and now you're trying to install it from the repos?
[01:57] <andrisp> defrysk: i have nvidia geforce 2 (mx400?)
[01:57] <ndazza> Nightrose: there's a variable of some kind for apt-get that determines whether certain questions get asked or whether defaults are chosen. I don't remember what it's called, perhaps the man page will shed some light
[01:57] <morn> !
[01:57] <ubotu> morn: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:57] <Nightrose> ndazza thx ill have a look
[01:57] <Bazzi> andrisp: you need the legacy drivers then
[01:58] <Healot> to convert that binary file from Sun dl the ""make-jpkg" package first
[01:58] <defrysk> andred, try nvidia-glx-legacy in stead of nvidia-glx
[01:58] <defrysk> andrisp,
[01:58] <defrysk> i mean
[01:58] <Healot> btw only the JDK can be packaged into its equivalent Debian package
[01:58] <drayen> Haveing a problem with my new Ferrari (AMD64, ATI x700, 1280x800), 1st the screen was black on boot into X, fixed that with adding Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS, CRT" - but now i can only get 640x480 resolution - any ideas?
[02:00] <ctothej> drayen: are you using dapper? post your xorg.conf on pastebin
[02:01] <drayen> ctothej, yes... doing that now
[02:03] <marian> hi ...
[02:03] <jessi> ok...
[02:03] <defrysk> hi...
[02:03] <drayen> http://pastebin.com/759515
[02:04] <jessi> i hate the configuration for my graphic card for linux
[02:04] <Healot> jessi: I am sure of that
[02:04] <marian> mein amarok spielt keine streams ... ;( engine is xine ... kann mir jemand helfen?
[02:04] <defrysk> !de
[02:04] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[02:05] <Healot> marian: amarok doesn;t play any audio stream?
[02:05] <marian> thx
[02:05] <Healot> did you installed "libxine-extracodecs"?
[02:05] <marian> yes .. but i don't know
[02:05] <marian> mom
[02:06] <drayen> ctothej, http://pastebin.com/759515  - its got the screen setup as expected... but like i said, im limited to 640x480 - any ideas?
[02:07] <marian> no i havn't
[02:07] <Nightrose> hmm that didnt help
[02:07] <ctothej> drayen: taking a look now
[02:07] <drayen> ctothej, thank you!
[02:07] <Nightrose> im still getting the same output http://cl1p.net/nightrose
[02:07] <Healot> marian: try to install "libxine-extracodecs", btw are you trying to play MPEG1/2/3 audio/video?
[02:08] <Healot> or those AVI (OpenAVI) bs?
[02:08] <ctothej> drayen, are you using the open source drivers?
[02:08] <marian> no not yet...
[02:08] <marian> it's fresh installd .. ;)
[02:08] <Healot> oh... that's why...
[02:08] <marian> no alsa
[02:09] <Healot> no sound server configured too..?
[02:09] <drayen> ctothej, erm, its a clean install from the Dapper CD
[02:10] <drayen> ctothej, all i've done is added one line to the xorg.conf, to fix the black screen problem.
[02:10] <marian> had updatet with sources from universe and main districtet
[02:10] <ctothej> drayen: oh interesting. i think its using the wrong driver.
[02:11] <drayen> ctothej, hummm okay... any ideas which one im going to need?
[02:11] <defrysk> drayen, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/31009
[02:11] <Healot> marian: do you see the kmix icon on the notification areA?
[02:11] <defrysk> is that your bug ?
[02:12] <marian> yeah .. and any sys sounds playing well
[02:12] <ctothej> drayen, i think defrysk is rught
[02:12] <ctothej> right*
[02:13] <drayen> defrysk, yeah, i think it is :)
[02:13] <ctothej> anyone, whats the apt-get command to install fglrx drivers?
[02:13] <defrysk> drayen, if it is confirm the bug in launchpad
[02:13] <drayen> ctothej, :) yeah i just tried "apt-get install fglrx" and it didnt work
[02:14] <drayen> defrysk, on it :)
[02:14] <defrysk> :)
[02:14] <ctothej> its like fglrx-drivers or something like that
[02:14] <robin> hi, anyone here running XGL with kubuntu, and if so, what are you experiece with it ?
[02:15] <robin> I like to try it out, but first want to know how stable it is :)
[02:15] <defrysk> robin its not very stable and a resource hog
[02:15] <drayen> Some one else worked out the same work around... i was stuck with VGA due to haveing CRT as in the MonitorLayout section :)
[02:15] <drayen> god i love open source
[02:15] <robin> defrysk: Not stable, so lot's of crashes  ?
[02:15] <ctothej> drayen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:15] <defrysk> robin, freezing and locking
[02:16] <ctothej> drayen: or better yet: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[02:16] <h3sp4wn> I have only found that it locks on reboot
[02:16] <defrysk> and ram usage peeking
[02:16] <h3sp4wn>  /shutdown
[02:16] <defrysk> I would wait til edgy comes out
[02:17] <defrysk> should be stable by then
[02:17] <robin> and when is that ?
[02:17] <defrysk> 6.10
[02:17] <robin> edgy is new ubuntu ?
[02:17] <robin> kk
[02:17] <defrysk> yes
[02:17] <defrysk> 2006.10
[02:17] <h3sp4wn> I hope they us aiglx (or whatever its called instead of xgl)
[02:17] <robin> But if I try it out, is it easy to disable it ?
[02:17] <ctothej> defrysk: do they change major version numbers each year?
[02:18] <ctothej> and minor every 6 months?
[02:18] <Bazzi> ctothej: the version is <year>.<month>
[02:18] <robin> ctothej: yes, year.month
[02:18] <defrysk> next year we have 07.04 and 07.10
[02:18] <ctothej> ahh right
[02:18] <_rince_> re
[02:18] <defrysk> every half year a +1
[02:19] <ctothej> drayen: how we doing?
[02:21] <drayen> ctothej, just made myslef a launchpad id... looks like the bug was already logged and confirmed https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-driver-ati/+bug/22985
[02:21] <drayen> ctothej, i made a change to my xorg.conf, which seems to have sorted it :)
[02:22] <ctothej> drayen: ok good. if not, go with the link i posted and install fglrx open source drivers.
[02:24] <drayen> ctothej, i will probably do that in a bit, i want to see if i can get the 3d desktop thing working :) so i will expect i need the drivers for that :)
[02:24] <ctothej> nice
[02:25] <drayen> ctothej, seem to remeber a digg.com story about how to do it :)
[02:26] <_ivan> hi all I hava linux ubuntu but how I create 85 HZ I HAVE 60 hz :(
[02:26] <_ivan> ?
[02:27] <robin> _ivan: use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, to set the right settings for your monitor
[02:28] <robin> _ivan: you probably have to run it in console mode (ctrl+alt+f1)
[02:29] <_ivan> usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: please specify a package to reconfigure
[02:29] <_ivan> ?
[02:30] <defrysk> _ivan, xserver-xorg
[02:30] <_ivan> aha whate `1 min
[02:31] <defrysk> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:32] <_ivan> select the desired x server driver
[02:33] <tmak> hi, does anyone have had problems with kubuntu 6.06 & HP nx6125 (or similar) laptop? I got installation going but it's terribly slow
[02:33] <_ivan> Enter the amount of memory (in kB) to be used by your video card.
[02:33] <_ivan> what is this ?
[02:33] <_ivan> my card is 128 ?
[02:34] <tmak> only opening the konsole takes like 1 minute at least
[02:35] <user-land> how do i make room for 15 'most used applications' in the KDE start menu ?
[02:36] <Evixo> I'm wondering where I can configure which login screen I want to use.. I installed ubuntu and intalled kubuntu later and made sure that when I log in I get KDE but I want to disable the gnome login interface without removing gnome ... does anybody know a tutorial or something? I couldn't find one
[02:37] <Bazzi> remove gdm, that should do the trick
[02:37] <Evixo> but is there a way without removing gnome ... @ bazzi
[02:37] <CaBlGuY> I can "officially" hang out in here now. I installed KDE last night.   :p
[02:37] <drayen> story on digg.com was for nvidia - anyone know of of a tut to get the 3d desktop thing running on an ATI  card?
[02:38] <Evixo> I should be a small config somewhere I suppose
[02:38] <Bazzi> that'll just remove the login
[02:38] <Bazzi> not gnome itself
[02:38] <Evixo> ok so I can remove that the apt-get way? with gdm as the packet name?
[02:39] <Bazzi> yes try it
[02:39] <defrysk> Evixo, just apt-get remove gdm
[02:40] <CaBlGuY> Sorry drayen, dunno about ATI, I was happen to get my Nvidia card workin right..  ;)
[02:40] <drayen> CaBlGuY, :)
[02:40] <CaBlGuY> you could try....
[02:40] <CaBlGuY> !ATI
[02:40] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers.
[02:40] <CaBlGuY> there
[02:42] <CaBlGuY> now that I've glot KDE installed, i'm kinda likin it....  although im not really into all the "eye candy". it don't look to bad..
[02:46] <Evixo> at bazzi... thnx for the help mate... it worked
[02:46] <GNAM> are there dapper updates?
[02:46] <defrysk> GNAM, there is a newer kde for dapper available
[02:47] <CaBlGuY> defrysk: I just downloaded 3.5 last night. Looks real nice..  nice n clean..
[02:47] <defrysk> GNAM, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php
[02:48] <defrysk> CaBlGuY, sure does , runs snappy
[02:48] <CaBlGuY> yea, pretty quick..
[02:48] <CaBlGuY> looks and feels better then it did in breezey..
[02:48] <defrysk> CaBlGuY, never used kde in breezy
[02:50] <CaBlGuY> defrysk:  ahhh, well, it was ok, but this is "newer" and more "breathable"..  :p
[02:51] <defrysk> tried it in breezy but didnt like it then
[02:51] <defrysk> now its much better
[02:53] <robin> the kde updates are just as stable as the default kde version that ships with dapper ?
[02:53] <defrysk> robin, for sure
[02:53] <robin> defrysk: ok, will try it them.
[02:54] <gil> how do i burn two bootable ISO filles to one DVD and choose which one to boot to at start up
[02:56] <GNAM> why not kde packages in standard mirrors?
[02:57] <defrysk> GNAM, a stable vrsion is frozen so no new packages , only security updates and stuff
[03:04] <CaBlGuY> robin:, yes the updates are as stable as what comes with the distro...   might be even moreso..  eather way, it looks nice..
[03:05] <robin> CaBlGuY: ok, I have installed them, I will see :) thx
[03:06] <CaBlGuY> robin:, NP..  ;)
[03:07] <defrysk> and a tip for ktorrent users there is a newer version of ktorrent on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188530
[03:08] <defrysk> it uses less resources and works better
[03:08] <robin> it seems to work
[03:08] <robin> only lost the border in the login screen :)
[03:09] <robin> something I should not do on a laptop :)
[03:10] <v3ctor> why not?
[03:10] <defrysk> robin, true
[03:10] <defrysk> v3ctor, u serious ?
[03:10] <robin> obivious reasons :)
[03:10] <v3ctor> passwords are usless if the laptop is stolen
[03:10] <Hobbsee> defrysk: please remind me of that in about a week.
[03:11] <Hobbsee> or maybe a few days
[03:11] <defrysk> Hobbsee, of what ?
[03:11] <Hobbsee> defrysk: that there's a new version of ktorrent out
[03:11] <robin> v3ctor: sure everybody knows how to hack in to your system ;)
[03:11] <defrysk> Hobbsee, bookmark it ;)
[03:11] <babysnakes> hi, does anybody have good experience with keyboard layouts switching in kde?
[03:11] <CaBlGuY> Howdy Hobbsee, o/   I'm officaly in K environment now...   ya happy.. :p
[03:12] <Hobbsee> CaBlGuY: yay!
[03:12] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[03:12] <imbrandon> heay Hobbsee
[03:12] <Hobbsee> hey imbrandon
[03:12] <defrysk> Hobbsee, you can dowload it from the post i geve
[03:12] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: what ya doing with ktorrent ?
[03:13] <defrysk> Hobbsee, http://rapidshare.de/files/22170949/ktorrent_2.0beta1_i386.deb.html
[03:13] <Hobbsee> defrysk: if i got it from there, i'd be shot.
[03:13] <imbrandon> hehe
[03:13] <defrysk> Hobbsee, you developer ?
[03:14] <imbrandon> defrysk: yea
[03:14] <Hobbsee> defrysk: yeah
[03:14] <defrysk> oops
[03:14] <defrysk> lol
[03:14] <Hobbsee> hmmm...2.0 beta 1...
[03:14] <defrysk> Hobbsee, its stable according to the ktorrent website
[03:15] <defrysk> Hobbsee, and work better for sure
[03:15] <Hobbsee> defrysk: where does it say 2.0beta1 is stable?
[03:15] <defrysk> Hobbsee, a sec
[03:15] <defrysk> Hobbsee, http://ktorrent.org/
[03:16] <Hobbsee> defrysk: which page?  that's where i am?
[03:16] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: bottom of the main page
[03:16] <defrysk> The latest stable version of ktorrent is 2.0beta1 and it's released under the GNU GPL License.
[03:16] <defrysk> its at the end of the page
[03:16] <Hobbsee> oh.  of course.  silly hobbsee :P
[03:16] <Hobbsee> thanks
[03:16] <defrysk> ;p
[03:17] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: edgy or -updates ?
[03:17] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: edgy
[03:17] <imbrandon> cool
[03:17] <defrysk> backport I presume
[03:17] <chrome> hello folks
[03:17] <defrysk> ?
[03:17] <chrome> someone use kmobiletools?
[03:17] <Hobbsee> possibly.  guess it could be backported.  imbrandon got a dapper chroot?
[03:17] <Hobbsee> no, wait
[03:17] <Hobbsee> even i have that :P
[03:17] <robin> will edy run kde 4 ?
[03:17] <imbrandon> Hobbsee:  yea
[03:17] <robin> edgy*
[03:18] <Hobbsee> robin: no, not really
[03:18] <defrysk> robin, even dapper wil run it probably
[03:18] <imbrandon> robin: edgy will be out befgore kde4 stable
[03:18] <robin> hmm ok.
[03:18] <Hobbsee> now, how does one run an *edgy* pbuilder?
[03:18] <defrysk> it wil be packaged for edgy I'm sure
[03:18] <Hobbsee> guess it's the same as a dapper one...
[03:18] <Hobbsee> defrysk: yeah, cos i'm doing it :P
[03:18] <defrysk> and also for dapper i'm sure
[03:18] <defrysk> :)
[03:18] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: not sure its nessessary yet as the repos arent open, i've been building with just edgy in the changelogs
[03:18] <Hobbsee> true
[03:19] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: what did you build?
[03:19] <Hobbsee> from scratch, or upgrade?
[03:19] <pussfeller> can someone tell me where beagled could be starting from
[03:19] <imbrandon> apt-mirror so far on revu ( and ktorrent personaly a few weeks ago )
[03:19] <pussfeller> was some sort of autostart dir added in dapper or something
[03:19] <pussfeller> its not in kde autostart
[03:20] <imbrandon> pussfeller: probbly /etc/init.d/* as its a deamon
[03:20] <Hobbsee> building...
[03:20] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: apt-mirror was from scratch
[03:20] <Hobbsee> pussfeller: the autostart folder in /usr/share?
[03:20] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: icky.  fun :P
[03:20] <imbrandon> hehe
[03:21] <defrysk> Hobbsee, compare the cpu usage of the old version to the new version , huge difference
[03:21] <defrysk> and also ram for that matter
[03:21] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: Is apt-mirror not just a single perl script ?
[03:22] <imbrandon> h3sp4wn: and a conf file but yes, its not in the repos so i buit a deb for edgy
[03:24] <defrysk> it rocks :)
[03:24] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: lol!
[03:24] <oppilas> piv
[03:25] <Gentix> When Iiinstall kdm nvidia is nolonger being used and it screws up my fonts. how do I fix this?
[03:25] <drayen> hummm... so i installed Xgl and compwiz or what ever its called... its booted fine, but i dont have any top bars at all (ie the bit above file etc) any ideas?
[03:25] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: What about using steganography to put your backup into a real copy of Girls Gone Wild (suppose it requires you to obtain it in the first place)
[03:26] <drayen> and i cant re-size anything
[03:26] <imbrandon> h3sp4wn: true, i was realy just goffin but thats not a half bad idea
[03:26] <defrysk> Gentix, glxinfo |grep direct
[03:26] <flapane> hi
[03:26] <flapane> any troubles with ati 3d? i have http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189470
[03:27] <flapane> please i don't know what to do
[03:27] <imbrandon> drayen: means your wm dident start only xgl
[03:27] <flapane> the fglrx modules compiles but it won't work
[03:27] <drayen> imbrandon, ahh okay..
[03:27] <imbrandon> drayen: try #ubuntu-xgl ;)
[03:27] <serenity> hi
[03:27] <Gentix> defrysk it says that glx is missing on the current display
[03:27] <drayen> is there no #kubuntu-xgl :P:P
[03:27] <imbrandon> drayen: its the same
[03:28] <defrysk> Gentix, and that happend with installing kdm ?
[03:28] <Gentix> defrysk: that figures... but how do i? fix that?
[03:28] <Gentix> defrysk: yes
[03:28] <defrysk> Gentix, nvidia ?
[03:28] <ubuntu> hi
[03:28] <Gentix> defrysk: yes
[03:28] <defrysk> Gentix, dapper?
[03:28] <flapane> noone?
[03:28] <serenity> i have just installed azureus over adept, all went correct, it created an entry in the k-menu but i tries to start and did not continue
[03:28] <Gentix> defrysk: yeps :)
[03:28] <crazy_penguin> has anyone used the shfs module in the kernel?
[03:29] <defrysk> Gentix, "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[03:29] <daniel> which file system should i use, if i want access from both linux and windows?
[03:29] <Gentix> defrysk: that should do it???
[03:29] <serenity> daniel: fat32
[03:30] <defrysk> Gentix,  yes if you have everything installed that should do it
[03:30] <daniel> oh, and if i also want to be able to have files larger than 4 GiB
[03:30] <Gentix> defrysk: k, thanx I'll give it a shot
[03:30] <defrysk> Gentix, good luck :)
[03:30] <Bazzi> daniel: use a network storage and samba/nfs ;)
[03:32] <daniel> that would require a file server, wouldn't it?
[03:32] <Bazzi> yes, or similar
[03:32] <daniel> in that case, i need something else :\
[03:33] <Gentix> defrysk: didn't do it
[03:34] <defrysk> Gentix, you upgraded from breezy to dapper ?
[03:34] <Gentix> defrysk: yep
[03:34] <defrysk> you did a dis-upgrade
[03:34] <Gentix> defrysk: dist-upgrade
[03:34] <Bazzi> daniel: vmware?
[03:34] <drayen> imbrandon, they are real chatty in ubuntu-xgl
[03:35] <defrysk> Gentix, a sec
[03:35] <daniel> ehm, what does that do?
[03:35] <Gentix> defrysk: k
[03:35] <Bazzi> virtualize windows/linux
[03:36] <defrysk> Gentix, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:36] <wezlo> I'm having trouble with openoffice.org2 on dapper - the program opens, but none of the modules are installed (writer...etc)
[03:37] <wezlo> anyone got a clue how to fix (the packages are installed)
[03:37] <Gentix> defrysk: already done so
[03:37] <Bazzi> wezlo: sudo dpkg-reconfigure openoffice.org
[03:37] <andrisp> i configured my konqueror to by default open php files with quanta plus, but everytime i click on some php file, konqueror opens new intance of quanta plus. how to solve this ?
[03:37] <defrysk> Gentix, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:38] <wezlo> bazzi, thanks, I'll try that
[03:38] <Gentix> defrysk: that'l  instal alot of stuff I don't want :(
[03:38] <Hobbsee> defrysk: did you get it to compile?  i'm getting it ftbfs here...
[03:38] <defrysk> Gentix, and also stuf you need , so please do that
[03:39] <defrysk> Hobbsee, I did not compile it I just downloaded it
[03:39] <Hobbsee> mmm okay
[03:39] <defrysk> Gentix, aslo sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-minimum
[03:39] <Gentix> defrysk: okay then
[03:40] <defrysk> and after that again a dist-upgrade
[03:40] <defrysk> Hobbsee, sure you are a developer ? ;p
[03:40] <Gentix> defrysk: why a dist-upgrade???
[03:40] <defrysk> Gentix, to make sure you have it all
[03:40] <Hobbsee> defrysk: not particularly, why do you ask?
[03:41] <defrysk> Gentix, eliminating possible missing things
[03:41] <Gentix> k
[03:41] <defrysk> Gentix, did you use automatix by the way ?
[03:42] <defrysk> Hobbsee, jk
[03:42] <wezlo> Bazzi, that didn't work
[03:42] <Bazzi> mh :(
[03:42] <Gentix> defrysk: automatix?? whats that?
[03:42] <defrysk> good answer :)
[03:42] <wezlo> Bazzi, from the commandline I only get ooffice and ootemplate (no writer, etc...)
[03:42] <defrysk> Gentix, never use it
[03:43] <Gentix> defrysk: okay :)
[03:44] <klerfayt> kicker has white stripe on top that doesn't look nice with darker dark panel background
[03:45] <andrisp> how can I configure Quanta plus to auto-indent when I press Enter ?
[03:46] <Blizzz> "GRUB loading, please wait... Error 21" <-- whats wrong??
[03:47] <defrysk> Blizzz, it means one of your disks is not being recognized in the bios
[03:47] <defrysk> or a device
[03:47] <Blizzz> thanks
[03:48] <wezlo> Bazzi, I figured it out - didn't clean my old install up....
[03:51] <Davidosky> rieccomi
[03:51] <Davidosky> sta volta con il pc fisso :P
[03:51] <defrysk> !it
[03:51] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:51] <Davidosky> rieccomi! sta volta con il pc fisso :D
[03:51] <afm\colossus> is there a way to embed vim into kwrite in kubuntu dapper?
[03:52] <Davidosky> fool non riesce a prendere un ip il pc, ora cerco di capire xk
[03:52] <Gentix> defrysk: it did change the fonts. But still no GLX
[03:54] <defrysk> Gentix, try nvidia-xconfig again please
[03:54] <defrysk> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[03:54] <defrysk> Gentix, got output ?
[03:54] <Gentix> defrysk: k
[03:54] <serenity> i killed adept and now i stars, but sysy that another app is using it. What do do?
[03:55] <serenity> i killed adept and now i starts, but says that another app is using it. What do do?
[03:57] <serenity> ...
[03:58] <serenity> is there a flag set by adept, that is was started? Where to set this flag to default?
[03:59] <Gentix> defrysk: noes... no luck...
[03:59] <defrysk> Gentix, glxinfo |grep direct
[03:59] <Gentix> s/noes/nopes
[04:00] <Gentix> defrysk: samething
[04:00] <Gentix> defrysk: no glx on display 0.0
[04:00] <defrysk> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:00] <defrysk> end make sure its set to nvidia
[04:00] <serenity> adapt says: ...antoher app is using the database...
[04:00] <defrysk> serenity, synaptic = up or something ?
[04:01] <defrysk> or are you updating ?
[04:01] <serenity> no, killed adapt by shell
[04:01] <serenity> maybe a flag is set
[04:01] <serenity> that it's running
[04:01] <defrysk> serenity, open top and check whats running
[04:01] <v3ctor> ps -ef|grep adept
[04:02] <serenity> adept_notifier and  grep adapt
[04:02] <v3ctor> sudo pkill adept_notifier
[04:03] <v3ctor> then try to start it again
[04:03] <serenity> what have i did?
[04:03] <defrysk> serenity, you have did well :)
[04:03] <serenity> hehe...
[04:03] <defrysk> ;p
[04:06] <mluser-work> Does anyone know if its possible to specify in the kubuntu installer where to install the bootloader?
[04:07] <serenity> adept does not start anyway
[04:08] <Hobbsee> mluser-work: i believe it is - just tell it not to install on the MBR
[04:09] <xwolf-> i think in the installer you either select it to be installed or not
[04:09] <andrisp> how can i disable anti-aliasing in quanta plus ?
[04:11] <mluser-work> Hobbsee: I'm talking about the installer on the live cd.. it never prompted me for a place to install the mbr, it just installed it by default the MBA of the first disk which is not where I wanted it
[04:11] <Hobbsee> weird!  it used to ask you for the alternative cd...
[04:12] <Gentix> defrysk: doesn't do a darn thing
[04:14] <Landerro> hello
[04:15] <Landerro> I have a problem with Kubuntu 6.06, can somebody help me?
[04:15] <Flame> Hi. Anyone not too busy to help me with updating issues?
[04:16] <flapane> anyone alive with dapper,ati and working 3d?
[04:16] <flapane> it seems you guyz disappeared..switched to nvidia?
[04:16] <Flame> Or like me...cheap and with an integrated gfx setup >.>
[04:17] <flapane> :(
[04:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Hello all, general question about Kubuntu.  HOw do I get SU access in things like file manager or Konq
[04:17] <kosh> alt-f2 kdesu konqueror
[04:18] <bsm> hi, are there already some kopete 0.12 packages?
[04:18] <flapane> no
[04:18] <Flame> Im having connection errors when trying to update...any ideas?
[04:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Kosh, thanks alot..
[04:18] <Hobbsee> bsm: there are some being tested
[04:18] <Flame> These are with both apt-get update and Adept. Same errors >.<
[04:18] <bsm> Hobbsee: where? Last one is 0.12 beta 1
[04:19] <kosh> alt-f2 allows you to run any command and kdesu allows you to run stuff as another user so you could use alt-f2 kdesu kate if you wanted to or anything else for that matter
[04:19] <Hobbsee> bsm: freeflying made some, but they're wrongly versioned (or were, not sure about now)
[04:20] <Landerro> I can't start Kubuntu any more after I configured my second screen. How can I solve this problem??
[04:21] <Jack_Sparrow> kdesu tells it to run in su mode then asks for pass right?
[04:21] <kosh> yeah it asks for your password since it will use sudo
[04:21] <Flame> Hm. I can no longer connect to Kopete--> AIM...randomly...
[04:21] <Gentix> defrysk: any more ideas??
[04:21] <bsm> Landerro: copy your backup right in place
[04:21] <defrysk> Gentix, I honestly do not know whats wrong
[04:21] <kosh> however kdesu can also take arguments and run stuff as other users
[04:21] <Gentix> defrysk: :(
[04:22] <defrysk> Gentix, if you have everything upgraded properly nvidia should work fine
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> I will research the command, thens for the jump start
[04:22] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[04:22] <Landerro> bsm, but if I try again then it's just the same problem. Can't I use my second screen in Kubuntu?
[04:23] <Gentix> defrysk: thanx anyway
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Kosh can I also run a dd command there?
[04:23] <Gentix> defrysk: I'll see what I can do (remove kdm)
[04:23] <bsm> Landerro: 'course you can, just wanted to suggest something so you can go on working again
[04:23] <flapane> anyone with ati?
[04:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry, switched to nvidia
[04:23] <Landerro> If I do it with the live cd it's the same
[04:24] <defrysk> Gentix, I would report it in llaunchpad if it runs fine in gdm
[04:24] <jbirdAngel> hello
[04:24] <Flame> Grr
[04:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Argh
[04:24] <Flame> kopete refuses to connect...is anyone else getting messages about AIM being unavailable?
[04:25] <v3ctor> aol just had a blip
[04:25] <slow-motion> re
[04:26] <v3ctor> everyone i work with got booted
[04:26] <Jack_Sparrow> brb  going to reinstall
[04:26] <Flame> heh
[04:26] <Flame> So how long should I estimate before I can connect again?
[04:26] <v3ctor> i reconnected already
[04:26] <linux_galore> time for bed
[04:27] <defrysk> estimate a blib ?
[04:27] <Flame> Gr...
[04:27] <defrysk> errr.....
[04:28] <Flame> Hmm
[04:28] <Flame> Still getting messages about the AIM service being temp. unavail..
[04:28] <Flame> >.<
[04:29] <v3ctor> there was a great disturbance in the force...my internet connection slowed for a while there
[04:29] <Flame> Gyahhhhhhhhhh
[04:29] <Flame> I just connected another acct.
[04:29] <Flame> But the first one wont connect -.-;;
[04:30] <Flame> Yeah it refuses to let me add that one
[04:30] <Flame> >.>
[04:31] <StR> Hi all!
[04:31] <Flame> ./Sigh
[04:31] <Flame> Hi
[04:31] <Flame> How do I update packages if apt-get and Adept both continue to give me "Fail to fetch" messages?
[04:32] <Hobbsee> Flame: use a different mirror
[04:32] <Hobbsee> !mirror
[04:32] <ubotu> from memory, mirror is repository mirrors can be found through http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[04:33] <kez_> hey, has anyone got a minute to help me? I've got a weird problem with KDE
[04:33] <shentey> hi! how can i activate the tar kio plugin in konqueror?
[04:33] <Flame> Ive tried.
[04:33] <Flame> Ive gone through 6 mirrors.
[04:33] <Flame> Same errors.
[04:33] <Flame> ./Scratches head.
[04:33] <kez_> basically, ctrl-tab doesn't work... all other shortcut keys work fine
[04:34] <Flame> deb http://ubuntu.secs.oakland.edu/ dapper universe
[04:34] <Flame> That IS the right format, correct?
[04:37] <Hobbsee> Flame: yes...
[04:37] <Flame> ./Sigh
[04:37] <Flame> Then I have no idea whats wrong.
[04:37] <Flame> My net works...Im on this/Konqueror and Kopete >.>
[04:38] <Flame> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.secs.oakland.edu/dists/dapper/universe/source/Sources.gz  Connection failed
[04:38] <Flame> That times ten.
[04:38] <Flame> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/main Packages
[04:38] <Flame>   Connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[04:39] <Flame> And that times ten.
[04:39] <shentey> @Flame: so you have ethereal installed?
[04:40] <Flame> Umm...Ethereal?
[04:40] <Flame> ./I r nubby
[04:40] <shentey> it's a network monitoring tool
[04:40] <Flame> Umm how would I check if I have it installed or not?
[04:40] <shentey> type "ethereal" in a console
[04:40] <shentey> and start it ;-)
[04:41] <Avdi__> has anyone had problems with kded crashing in 6.06?
[04:41] <Flame> Umm ok
[04:41] <Flame> I typed it into the console
[04:41] <Flame> and I found it
[04:42] <Flame> But...if I click it, nada.
[04:42] <shentey> with my card it detects tcp checksum errors
[04:42] <Flame> Nothing happens >>
[04:42] <MasterEvilAce> does the kubuntu 6.06 DVD contain more than the CD?
[04:42] <shentey> well, you have to start it with root permissions
[04:43] <shentey> Alt-F2: ethereal + root user
[04:44] <andrisp> !lv
[04:44] <ubotu> andrisp: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:44] <kez_> can anyone help me with this KDE ctrl-tab not working problem? it's driving me insane
[04:45] <Flame> Umm
[04:45] <Flame> How do I start it with root permissions...?
[04:45] <shentey> Type Alt+F2 and you get a "run command" window
[04:46] <shentey> there you type "ethereal" as the command and press the button "advanced" or "more" (dont't know exactly how it is named)
[04:46] <exhale> adept :x
[04:47] <shentey> then you can start ethereal with root permissions
[04:47] <Flame> Adept wont connect to Dl the packages :(
[04:47] <exhale> adept sucks.
[04:48] <exhale> and that is a fact.
[04:48] <shentey> btw, ethereal is good for detecting network problems so it's like shooting at sparrows with guns ;-)
[04:48] <Flame> And I wouldnt mind having to do it as the apt-get commands either.
[04:48] <Flame> But...those wont connect either >.>
[04:48] <Flame> Well, the sparrows be pwning me right now :P
[04:49] <Flame> Ok
[04:49] <Flame> I went to run
[04:49] <Flame> Ran it as root
[04:49] <Flame> and...after I hit "Run", nothing.
[04:49] <Flame> It doesnt realize it exists..?
[04:50] <luh> i've just set up my computer on kubuntu.
[04:50] <shentey> it seems you don't have it installed :-(
[04:50] <MasterEvilAce> any difference between i386 and i686 ? I remember someone had me reinstall kernel earlier and it gave me i686.. but all the install CDs to d/l are 386.
[04:50] <Flame> Grr..
[04:50] <luh> and now i have a non-working X
[04:50] <Flame> So how do I install it?
[04:50] <luh> graphic card is a sis
[04:50] <MasterEvilAce> so, hardware wise is there any improvement by using the 686?
[04:50] <luh> monitor is an acer Al1716
[04:50] <Flame> Non-working X.../nightmare reminder of my earlier messing-around with Debian...>.>
[04:50] <exhale> luh what driver are you using?
[04:50] <shentey> can you open the package repository in a browser?
[04:50] <exhale> and what error are you getting?
[04:50] <luh> Flame, on debian it always worked for me
[04:51] <luh> exhale, no clue - just finished the isntallation routine
[04:51] <exhale> well... then check xorg.conf.. how else are we supposed to help you?
[04:51] <luh> exhale, how am i supposed to check xorg.conf?
[04:51] <Flame> Hm
[04:51] <Flame> Is ethereal installed by default?
[04:51] <exhale> with vim/nano/any text editor?
[04:51] <shentey> no, it is not
[04:51] <Flame> Because...I pretty much just finished installing Kubuntu
[04:51] <luh> exhale, - i have no x and no console
[04:51] <Flame> So then how do I...install it?
[04:51] <luh> nothing i could work on
[04:52] <exhale> then get a console
[04:52] <exhale> just choose recovery console or whatever it says when booting in grub
[04:52] <exhale> you will be booted to console
[04:52] <luh> sure - i'll be right back
[04:52] <CaBlGuY> ok, is flash player 8 available?
[04:52] <shentey> well, you have to use apt (adept, ...)
[04:53] <Flame> Ugh
[04:53] <exhale> how come firefox isnt default in kubuntu?
[04:53] <CaBlGuY> ok..  just search for flash player 8 right?
[04:53] <Flame> Which is my problem to begin with
[04:53] <Flame> Lol
[04:53] <Flame> Because it wont connect! >.<
[04:53] <Flame> So in other words...Im screwed?
[04:53] <shentey> can you open a repository in a browser?
[04:54] <exhale> yup
[04:54] <Flame> Yes
[04:54] <Flame> Although Im not quite sure what to do once there >.>
[04:54] <shentey> that's funny
[04:54] <Flame> Heh
[04:55] <shentey> so your browser can connect to the server but apt can't?
[04:55] <Flame> http://ubuntu.secs.oakland.edu/
[04:55] <Flame> Like be able to open that, right?
[04:55] <Flame> UNder Konq?
[04:55] <shentey> yes
[04:55] <Flame> Because I can do that, yeah.
[04:55] <exhale> what are you trying to do, really?
[04:55] <Flame> Update in any way/shape/form
[04:55] <Flame> I cant update through Adept. Or apt-get
[04:55] <exhale> then something's wrong.
[04:56] <Flame> And I strongly suspect that at this rate, if there was another way to update, that wouldnt work either.
[04:56] <Flame> Well...Im not THAT newb...I figured that part out :P
[04:56] <exhale> lol
[04:56] <exhale> try messing around with sources.list
[04:56] <Flame> the correcting part is where Im totally lost...
[04:56] <Flame> The wiki link for mirrors.
[04:56] <Flame> Ive tried 6 diff mirrors.
[04:56] <Flame> Nothing still
[04:56] <exhale> well
[04:56] <exhale> what happens?
[04:56] <Flame> So I suspect it might be something...other than the mirror
[04:56] <exhale> have you sudo-apt-get update?
[04:57] <Flame> I get a "Failed to connect" "Failed to fetch" error.
[04:57] <Flame> I can pastebin it if you'd like >.>
[04:57] <exhale> k
[04:58] <Flame> Exhale: http://pastebin.com/759849
[05:00] <exhale> hmm weird
[05:00] <Flame> Yeah...I'm not quite sure what the issue is...router mayhaps?
[05:00] <andrisp> which is the best firewall front-end solution for kde ?
[05:00] <exhale> why would you need one?
[05:01] <exhale> Flame hmm i donnu... have a different network card to try?
[05:01] <andrisp> why not ?
[05:01] <luh> exhale, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/759852 - there is my xorg.conf file
[05:01] <Flame> Well...I have oh. Nvm I thought you were asking me why I needed a router.
[05:01] <Flame> I was going to point out that a lot of people have routers and whatnot
[05:01] <exhale> luh try changing the driver to vesa
[05:01] <Flame> Just 1 network card and Ive tried to activate/deactiv. it a couple times..
[05:01] <Flame> Nothing doing.
[05:01] <Flame> Still the same
[05:02] <Flame> The weird part
[05:02] <Flame> Is that I can update fine if I run it off the LiveCD
[05:02] <luh> which one exhale ?
[05:02] <exhale>         Driver          "i810"
[05:02] <Flame> But while isntalling, near the end, I get an error saying it cant find security updates. And then I get these errors after install finishes
[05:02] <exhale> change i810 to vesa and restart X
[05:02] <luh> k
[05:02] <exhale> Flame, but you can browse the internet?
[05:02] <luh> startx is the command or what is it under kubuntu?
[05:03] <exhale> luh yep
[05:04] <Flame> Yes
[05:04] <Flame> ANd Im on this and kopete
[05:04] <exhale> uhmm i donnu then... might want to try to reinstall
[05:04] <exhale> try pinging the repos
[05:05] <Flame> How..?
[05:05] <kez_> hey, does kubuntu install will non-kde default key settings?
[05:06] <exhale> Flame open a terminal and type "ping www.asdadsas.com"
[05:06] <Flame> ok
[05:08] <Flame> ok
[05:08] <luh> exhale, screens found but none with a useable configuration
[05:08] <Flame> I chose to ping archive.ubuntu.com
[05:08] <Flame> All the time values are rather high though.
[05:09] <Flame> Lowest is 90 ms
[05:09] <exhale> luh then i dont know :/
[05:09] <exhale> isnt there a driver called "sis"?
[05:09] <luh> exhale, vesa no matching device section for instance
[05:09] <Flame> Actually, lowest is 96 ms*
[05:09] <luh> FATAL ERROR: no screens found
[05:09] <Flame> So now Im just kinda watching it scroll...where do I go now? Idea-process-wise?
[05:10] <luh> that the things it told me - and a lotmore
[05:10] <luh> but i can't keep it all in mind exhale  - because i have to run through the house all the time
[05:10] <luh> to get from one computer to the other
[05:10] <exhale> :/
[05:10] <exhale> !reconfigure x
[05:10] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, exhale
[05:11] <exhale> hmm
[05:11] <exhale> i donnu try reconfigure X and see what gives
[05:11] <luh> apt-setup --reconfigure x
[05:11] <Flame> >.<
[05:11] <luh> was that the command?
[05:11] <luh> or what was it?
[05:11] <Hobbsee> !xfcg
[05:11] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hobbsee
[05:11] <Hobbsee> !xcfg
[05:11] <ubotu> hmm... xcfg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:11] <luh> thanks
[05:12] <kez_> hey, is there any way to get kde to open firefox instead of konqueror if i write a "http://" type uri into the KDE run command dialog?
[05:12] <Hobbsee> kez_: should be, it's set in system settings...
[05:12] <Hobbsee> user account, the last optoin
[05:12] <Hobbsee> er, wait, in kde components
[05:12] <Flame> exhale: After I ping a repository...then what?
[05:12] <Hobbsee> (who moved that!)
[05:12] <Flame> O_O
[05:13] <Flame> Smack them...
[05:13] <Hobbsee> nah, it's better where it is now - i just hadnt noticed it movng
[05:13] <Flame> Heh
[05:14] <Flame> Hobbsee, you have any ideas on what to do for an updating problem?
[05:14] <Hobbsee> Flame: the repos are borked again?
[05:14] <Flame> Umm
[05:14] <Flame> I dunno...
[05:14] <Flame> Ive tried a bunch
[05:14] <Flame> And I cant connect to any
[05:14] <Flame> Either with Adept
[05:14] <Flame> Or with apt-get update
[05:14] <Flame> >.>
[05:15] <Flame> http://pastebin.com/759849
[05:15] <Flame> Thats the error I get, if youre curious as to wtf Im getting as a message
[05:15] <Flame> >>
[05:15] <Hobbsee> looks like US mirrors are borked agian
[05:15] <Flame> Grr...
[05:15] <Flame> So which do I try?
[05:15] <Hobbsee> gb mirrors
[05:16] <Flame> Oh
[05:16] <Flame> By US mirrors
[05:16] <Flame> You mean ALL USmirrors?
[05:16] <Flame> Oh. /Considers this concept for the first time.
[05:16] <Flame> Suggestions?
[05:16] <Hobbsee> replace where it says "us" with "gb"
[05:16] <Hobbsee> in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:17] <Flame> Will one like http://ubuntu.blueyonder.co.uk/archive/ off the Wiki list work as well?
[05:18] <Hobbsee> Flame: quite possibly
[05:19] <Hobbsee> but the gb mirrors are good
[05:19] <Flame> ./Sigh.
[05:19] <Flame> Same errors.
[05:19] <permanewb> after dist-upgrade to dapper, seamonkey and seamonkey-installer cause a segementation fault. have you experienced this?
[05:19] <Flame> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.blueyonder.co.uk/archive/dists/dapper-security/universe/source/Sources.gz  Connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[05:19] <Flame> That times ten.
[05:19] <Hobbsee> Flame: yeah, try the official gb mirrors - they're usually the most updated, too
[05:20] <Flame> Hmm ok
[05:20] <Flame> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[05:20] <Flame> Those for each mirror?
[05:21] <Hobbsee> Flame: yeah
[05:21] <Flame> kk
[05:21] <Flame> Hmm...
[05:22] <Flame> Same errors again.
[05:22] <jen1020> Hi, guys
[05:22] <kronoz> !easysource
[05:22] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:22] <Hobbsee> good point
[05:22] <Hobbsee> hey jen1020
[05:22] <jen1020> I've got a laptop that has a strange widescreen resolution and it's got an ATI Xpress card in it... is this supported by Kubuntu?
[05:23] <Flame> Hobbsee: http://pastebin.com/759887 Are there errors in that?
[05:23] <Flame> (My sources.list)
[05:24] <Hobbsee> Flame: looks good to me.  those security mirrors will get fixed...
[05:24] <mikmak> hi
[05:24] <Hobbsee> sometimes the mirrors just bork.  particularly the US ones, and the AU ones
[05:24] <mikmak> are there any plans for a kopete pkg for dapper ?
[05:24] <Flame> Hmm
[05:24] <Flame> Well, I havent been able to update for 2 days now...
[05:24] <Hobbsee> mikmak: 0.12?  yes
[05:24] <mikmak> Hobbsee: yes :)
[05:24] <Flame> How long should I not consider this an issue for?
[05:25] <Hobbsee> mikmak: wget http://www.ubuntu-zh.org/~freeflying/packages/kopete_3.5.3kopete0.12.0-1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[05:25] <mikmak> Hobbsee: cool, thanks !
[05:26] <apokryphos> heh, curious version-naming scheme
[05:26] <kronoz> i keep getting this error
[05:26] <kronoz> Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/dists/dapper/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[05:26] <kronoz> has the repo location changed?
[05:26] <defrysk> Hobbsee, :)
[05:26] <Flame> Well, its KINDA the same thing I get >.>
[05:26] <apokryphos> kronoz: sudo apt-get update first?
[05:26] <Hobbsee> !kde3.5.3
[05:26] <ubotu> kde3.5.3 is probably to upgrade to KDE3.5.3, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php (add the deb...line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[05:26] <Flame> ./Sigh.
[05:27] <Hobbsee> defrysk: :)  i got ktorrent to build, but not to install okay.
[05:27] <kronoz> apokryphos: that is from apt get update
[05:27] <Flame> Anyone...? Ideas on how to update if neither apt-get nor the Adept client will connect?
[05:27] <kronoz> yes, i know that is for 3.5.3 but has the lastest kde repo gone now?
[05:27] <apokryphos> kronoz: use the static repository for 3.5.3 then
[05:28] <defrysk> Hobbsee, I noticed on another ktorrent.deb for dapper that it was also not able to install
[05:28] <defrysk> the one in the forum did fine tho
[05:28] <jen1020> I've got a laptop that has a strange widescreen resolution and it's got an ATI Xpress card in it... is this supported by Kubuntu?
[05:28] <Hobbsee> defrysk: there's no way i could stick the forum one into the official repos though :P
[05:28] <apokryphos> jen1020: have you installed the ati drivers?
[05:28] <kosh> jen1020: pop in a live cd and see what happens
[05:29] <robin> jen1020: what kind of resolution ?
[05:29] <defrysk> Hobbsee, http://www.ubuntu-debs.de/app/ktorrent2/ is one that also did not work
[05:29] <jen1020> Not installed Kubuntu yet, just downloaded the Install CD :)
[05:29] <Hobbsee> ok
[05:29] <robin> jen1020: strange resolution doesn't'matter.. I'm running widescreen too:)
[05:29] <jen1020> Robin... yay! :)
[05:29] <Flame> Hobbsee: No other ideas? :(
[05:29] <jen1020> Are the ATI drivers easy to install?
[05:30] <Hobbsee> Flame: not at this time of the morning, no
[05:30] <permanewb> arggh. I'm missing my work email right now... because seamonkey segfaults now, after upgrading to dapper. I can't even think of what to look for to diagnose the problem. do you know?
[05:30] <Flame> Curses.
[05:31] <defrysk> ncurses ?
[05:31] <Flame> Anyone else have ideas? :D
[05:31] <defrysk> Flame, ideas for what ?
[05:31] <Hobbsee> permanewb: got a pastebin of the segfault?  is this breezy or dapper?  is there already a bug listed for this?
[05:31] <Flame> Ok
[05:31] <Flame> I cant update
[05:31] <georg> can someone help me with ndiswrapper and my agere mini pci wlan adapter?
[05:31] <Flame> Either thru Adept or the apt-get update method
[05:31] <defrysk> repos not working ?
[05:31] <jen1020> Are the ATI drivers easy to install?
[05:31] <Flame> I dunno...Ive tried all the US ones and at Hobb's suggestion, I tried the GB ones.
[05:31] <Flame> Nada.
[05:32] <defrysk> Flame, try without cc
[05:32] <Flame> But I can connect to the internet, and Im on this and kopete
[05:32] <Flame> Without CC...
[05:32] <Flame> >.>
[05:32] <defrysk> country code
[05:32] <Flame> I r newby...
[05:32] <Flame> Ahh
[05:32] <Flame> Just archive.ubuntu.com?
[05:32] <defrysk> Flame, and use ftp iso http
[05:32] <defrysk> Flame, yes
[05:33] <defrysk> without cc usually does the trick
[05:33] <georg> is this the right place to ask questions about ndiswrapper?
[05:33] <Flame> Wait..use ftp/iso/http?
[05:33] <Hobbsee> georg: sure
[05:33] <defrysk> Flame, and if stil no go try ftp iso http
[05:34] <Flame> By that you mean...>.>
[05:34] <defrysk> ftp in stead op http
[05:34] <Flame> Replace the http with the others?
[05:34] <Flame> ahh ok
[05:34] <defrysk> of*
[05:34] <defrysk> no dns reso needed then , might help
[05:34] <permanewb> hobbsee I see no mention of seamonkey in the ubuntu bugs. this is under dapper, there was no segfault under breezy. the seamonkey installer also segfaults. the error is "glibc detected double free or corruption" and "segmentation fault".
[05:34] <georg> so can you help me with my agere mini pci wlan adapter?
[05:35] <Hobbsee> georg: what model chipset does it have?  check in lspci
[05:35] <Flame> Oh my God...it WORKS.
[05:35] <Flame> Wow.
[05:35] <Hobbsee> permanewb: hmm okay.
[05:35] <Flame> Its probably unhealthy if I just felt incredibly happy, isnt it...
[05:35] <Flame> ./Sigh. My life is complete.
[05:36] <georg> hobsee: 0000:02:03.0 Network controller: Agere Systems Hermes2 Mini-PCI WaveLAN a/b/g i have searched the ndiswrapper list but couldn't find the card there
[05:36] <Flame> Wow. Muchas gracias defrysk...the ftp idea works ^^
[05:38] <Flame> One more question. Under Kopete.
[05:38] <Flame> How do I change which s.n it defaults to?
[05:38] <defrysk> Flame, ;)
[05:38] <Flame> The user Im IMing is only on my BL for one of the two account
[05:38] <Flame> accounts*
[05:38] <Flame> But when I click their name to chat...it sends it as the other account
[05:38] <Hobbsee> Flame: it's under settings, configuration...oh...that...
[05:39] <Flame> Ahh
[05:39] <Flame> Remind me again how thats helpful...-.-;
[05:39] <Flame> Lol
[05:39] <defrysk> speed kills ? :s
[05:39] <georg> hobsee: this is the pci id: 11c1:ab30
[05:40] <Hobbsee> defrysk: download accelerator :P
[05:40] <defrysk> lol Hobbsee
[05:40] <Hobbsee> georg: i dont know sorry.  and nick completion is useful
[05:40] <georg> nick completion?
[05:40] <defrysk> Hobbsee, I'd better use wget -c for this so i can resume tomorrow if needed ;p
[05:41] <Hobbsee> defrysk: hehe
[05:41] <elisiano> hi guys, could you please suggest me a channel for xgl on kubuntu?
[05:41] <Flame> Hobbsee: No dice.
[05:41] <Flame> Its kinda funny though
[05:41] <Flame> Lol
[05:41] <Flame> [10:40]  EternalPath06: Is this sending as FlameStryk05?
[05:41] <Flame> Is the way my friend sees what Im saying.
[05:41] <Flame> (11:41:03) FlameStryk05:  Lol
[05:41] <Flame> That is the way I see what Im sending
[05:41] <Flame> ./head hurts
[05:41] <jorik> just to be 100% sure: im running breezy now, if i do apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, replace my sources.list, then apt-get update and upgrade again; im running dapper, right ?
[05:42] <defrysk> jorik, right and otherwise wrong
[05:42] <stevekl> jorik: You don't have to upgrade before upgrading to dapper
[05:42] <elisiano> jorik: you don't need the first update/upgrade
[05:42] <Flame> O.o
[05:42] <jorik> oh ok
[05:42] <Flame> So anyone know how to best this latest demon?
[05:42] <Flame> >.>
[05:42] <stevekl> jorik: Also there's a 'reccomended sources.list' for dapper somewhere
[05:43] <stevekl> I'm not sure where though
[05:43] <defrysk> jorik, make sure after the install to apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-minimal and kubuntu-desktop
[05:43] <defrysk> jorik, and again a dist-upgrade then to make it complete
[05:43] <jbirdAngel> is there a way in konversation to make it so that only 1 room notifies me upon a new message in channel?
[05:43] <Flame> HAH!
[05:43] <jorik> stevekl, im using the source-o-matic
[05:43] <Flame> I winz!
[05:43] <stevekl> jorik: yeah that's it
[05:43] <elisiano> anyone tried xgl with nvidia?
[05:43] <jorik> defrysk, thx
[05:44] <Flame> I changed the default nick and now it just says "Me:"
[05:44] <Flame> ^_^
[05:44] <defrysk> elisiano, yes I did and am stil on the wagon
[05:44] <elisiano> :O
[05:44] <elisiano> did u have troubles?
[05:44] <stevekl> Does dist-upgrade do everything that upgrade does? Should I run both every day, or what?
[05:44] <defrysk> elisiano, stability resources and freezing
[05:45] <elisiano> but at least u managed
[05:45] <elisiano> :(
[05:45] <defrysk> stevekl, distupgrade adds new packages if needed, upgrade does not
[05:45] <elisiano> I get a strange error complaining about pixmap extension, but it's there
[05:45] <defrysk> elisiano, got rid of it after trieing it
[05:46] <kronoz> distupgrade upgrades the distro
[05:46] <kronoz> like from debian stable to testing to unstable
[05:46] <defrysk> kronoz, that too
[05:46] <elisiano> how did u do that defrysk ?
[05:46] <stevekl> defrysk: oh yeah? I didn't know that
[05:46] <defrysk> kronoz, dist-upgrade is also known as "smart" upgrade
[05:47] <elisiano> dist-upgrade install extra packages if necessary, upgrade doesn't, it just upgrade the existing ones
[05:47] <defrysk> elisiano, correct and skips the ones that need new packages
[05:47] <defrysk> or dependencies it you wish
[05:51] <defrysk> _?_
[05:51] <melan> somebody know why wine does not create the c drive when i execute wine?
[05:51] <jorik> when i do an apt-get update, i get a lot of errors saying "subprocess bzip2 failed", "subprocess gzip failed", etc ... is that normal ?
[05:52] <defrysk> melan, wincfg to set it up iirc
[05:52] <defrysk> winecfg
[05:53] <stevekl> jorik: I don't *think* that's normal...is this after you've upgraded to dapper?
[05:54] <_nicky_> running breezy, with customized kernel.  Should i do apt-get dist-upgrade, or fresh install?
[05:54] <defrysk> customized kernel might be tricky
[05:55] <stevekl> nixternal: If you want to continue to use a cutom kernel you'll have to compile one after upgrading to dapper, probably
[05:55] <stevekl> Man, I haven't compiled a kernel in ages
[05:55] <nixternal> oh..i use customized kernels all the time...but i think you meant _nicky_
[05:55] <nixternal> Sysinfo for 'MasTequila': Linux 2.6.16-ck11 running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2000+ at 1674 MHz (3350 bogomips), , RAM: 395/503MB, 98 proc's, 12.45h up
[05:56] <nixternal> see...2.6.16-ck11 :D
[05:56] <defrysk> Kernel: Linux 2.6.15-23-k7 | Distro: Debian/GNU testing/unstable | CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2200+ @ 1801 Mhz | Mem usage: 280.7/1010.5 MB (28%) | Swap usage: 18/2965.1 MB (1%) | Disk usage(Maxtor 6L300R0): 137.2/233.9 GB (59%) | Uptime: 11 hrs 53 mins 39 secs
[05:56] <defrysk> nixternal, does it ... "help" ?
[05:56] <stevekl> oh dapper uses 2.6.15 apparently
[05:56] <melan> defrysk: thanks it works
[05:57] <stevekl> so I guess you'll be ok
[05:57] <defrysk> melan, great :)
[05:57] <nixternal> oh ya...but my kernel is hacked so much...i only load the things i need...if i don't use it or need it...it doesn't get loaded...not even as a module
[05:57] <defrysk> nixternal, good for you ;)
[05:57] <stevekl> Er sorry I read defrysk's line as your line, ignore me
[05:57] <nixternal> and i have a lot of patches...the ck patch is the main for performance
[05:57] <simlu> hi!
[05:57] <stevekl> nixternal: Yeah I used to run gentoo and debian with custom kernels
[05:58] <stevekl> It was nice knowing that things I didn't need weren't there, but binary kernels are just so much easier on me
[05:58] <stevekl> I don't even have to worry about them
[05:58] <nixternal> there are some other patches out there im gonna eventually use to test with
[05:58] <nixternal> ya stevekl..that is a great feature with bin kerns
[05:58] <_nicky_> mine on Fujitsu P7120, used a cust.kernel to make things work
[05:58] <simlu> when I search for kernel-image with apt, I get only kernel-image for 2.4... where's the 2.6?
[05:59] <stevekl> Should I upgrade my breezy server (no window manager or desktop installed) to dapper
[06:00] <dr_willis> stevekl:  not sure ya would gain much. :P
[06:00] <dr_willis> except new updates/security.
[06:00] <defrysk> wow new copete has webcam :)
[06:01] <defrysk> kopete
[06:01] <dr_willis> stevekl:  so if its on the internet - id say yes.. if its just a local fileserver.. id say no, unless ya want to.
[06:01] <defrysk> and works wonderfully
[06:02] <elisiano> defrysk: really?
[06:03] <defrysk> elisiano, yes
[06:03] <exhale> how come theres no firefox in kubuntu?
[06:03] <elisiano> well there's not by default
[06:03] <dr_willis> Never noticed. :P
[06:03] <defrysk> elisiano, the one I downloaded does
[06:04] <stevekl> exhale: apt-get install firefox
[06:04] <dr_willis> I wodner if im the only one that  apt-get install ubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop by default. :)
[06:04] <defrysk> the one hobbsee provided
[06:04] <dr_willis> so i have all 3 desktops
[06:04] <stevekl> firefox pretty much works with both ubuntu and kubuntu
[06:04] <dr_willis> can you apt-get opera now?
[06:04] <Flame> Do I have to DL Wine?
[06:04] <dr_willis> !wine
[06:04] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux.  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.
[06:05] <Flame> I was actually just asking if it was pre-installed or not :P
[06:05] <Flame> But thanks ^^
[06:06] <jorik> ok, im doing a dist-upgrade right now ... and i get a LOT of errors (its still downloading atm), which seem to indicate that not all packages can be downloaded
[06:07] <jorik> i mean it looks like 75% of all packages fail to download
[06:07] <jorik> ugh
[06:07] <stevekl> jorik: If your /home on a separate partition?
[06:07] <bleaked> is it possible to mount two different directories on a single partiton onto two different directories on the running system?
[06:07] <jorik> no
[06:07] <elisiano> did u do dist-upgrade without update?
[06:07] <jorik> no i updated it first
[06:07] <jorik> i get a lot of 104 errors
[06:08] <stevekl> Damn, does ubuntu not by default put your /home on a separate partition?
[06:08] <defrysk> jorik, used automatix ?
[06:08] <stevekl> I'm really surprised that everyone has /home and / on the same partition
[06:08] <jorik> no i dont think so
[06:08] <stevekl> It's a pretty bad idea
[06:08] <jorik> im thinking, if i kill the upgrade now, will it harm my system ?
[06:08] <defrysk> jorik, you have all repos set to dapper ?
[06:09] <jorik> defrysk, yup, i used to source-o-matic
[06:09] <defrysk> jorik, put it on pastebin please to make sure
[06:09] <bleaked> stevekl: well, considering the default *ubuntu install uses LVM..you'll see a lot of that.  but yea, i both agree and practice separating / and /home
[06:09] <chrome> hello
[06:10] <chrome> I have a problem with kbluetoothd
[06:10] <elisiano> I just tried the webcam in kopete and it's not working defrysk
[06:10] <jorik> defrysk, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/760002
[06:10] <jorik> i think its all good tho
[06:11] <chrome> I have paired two devices (laptop, mobile phone) but in the list of paired devices there is nothing
[06:11] <chrome> why?
[06:11] <defrysk> elisiano, on the kopete hobbsee provided ?
[06:11] <elisiano> no the versio shipped with kde 3.5.3
[06:11] <elisiano> version*
[06:12] <CaBlGuY> ok, how would I go about mounting my digicam??
[06:12] <jorik> hmm im just gonna kill the update to breezy i think
[06:12] <jorik> dapper*
[06:12] <CaBlGuY> jorik: why u sayin that?
[06:12] <jorik> and buy a new HD and wait for ship-it
[06:12] <defrysk> jorik, you might have probs with the opera and penguin repo
[06:13] <chrome> nobody can give me an advice about it?
[06:13] <chrome> ...
[06:13] <Flame> Got a sec for another quick question anyone?
[06:13] <defrysk> also the kubuntu repos might be a prob , I would wait with that till after the dist-upgrade
[06:13] <CaBlGuY> chrome:  sorry,, i'm not knowledgeab;le about such things. :p
[06:13] <jorik> defrysk, well almost *everything* was 104'ing, i saw things like perl failing to download
[06:13] <shentey> How can i configure konqeror to use the tar protocol for opening tar archives instead of having it start ark?
[06:13] <CaBlGuY> !digicam
[06:13] <ubotu> CaBlGuY: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[06:13] <CaBlGuY> !digital camera
[06:13] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[06:13] <defrysk> jorik, change http to ftp
[06:14] <defrysk> jorik, might do the trick
[06:14] <Flame> !wine
[06:14] <ubotu> Wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on linux.  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine for more info.
[06:14] <Flame> Anyone got a sec?
[06:14] <Flame> For a WINE issue?
[06:14] <Healot> !beer
[06:14] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Healot
[06:14] <Flame> Literally...a whine about WINE.
[06:14] <CaBlGuY> Flame:  just ask, no need to ask to ask..
[06:14] <CaBlGuY> :p
[06:14] <simian__> sorry, but can someone enter benward.dyndns.org into a browser,  i want to see if i have unblocked port 80
[06:15] <Flame> Lol
[06:15] <Flame> ok.
[06:15] <Flame> I Adept'd Wine
[06:15] <CaBlGuY> ok..
[06:15] <Flame> And...I went to run and ran "Wine"
[06:15] <Flame> And..nada
[06:15] <Flame> Its as if I didnt do anything
[06:15] <exhale> ...
[06:15] <elisiano> whine on WINE, not on wine
[06:15] <jorik> defrysk, thing is, i thought this would be quick and painless ... im just going to leave it as it is now because i cant risk fubar-ing my computer right before my finals. ill be buying a bigger HD somewhere in july ... by then i should be able to find some ship-it cd's around here.
[06:15] <exhale> you need to run it with an app
[06:15] <elisiano> :D
[06:15] <defrysk> Flame, winecfg
[06:15] <Flame> Ah.
[06:15] <exhale> lmao
[06:16] <CaBlGuY> Hmmm  Flame what u runnin? Dapper?
[06:16] <defrysk> jorik, just change http to ftp in the repos
[06:16] <Flame> Yeah.
[06:16] <defrysk> more peeps have probs wth http at the moment
[06:16] <defrysk> jorik, and then retry
[06:16] <jorik> defrysk, just the kubuntu repos ?
[06:16] <CaBlGuY> well, IM not to sure about Wine on dapper at this point..  did u try installin it from synaptic?
[06:16] <duane> is it ok to install opera web browser for dapper?
[06:16] <defrysk> joch, the ubuntu repos
[06:16] <Flame> Yeah >.>
[06:17] <defrysk> jorik, why not do them all
[06:17] <duane> or should I just wait till they release a version for dapper?
[06:17] <Flame> If I locate it, it gives me a malformatted error
[06:17] <CaBlGuY> Flame:  well, all I can say is wait till someone with more knowledge shows up.. :p
[06:17] <Flame> Hehe :D
[06:17] <CaBlGuY> have ya tried to unistall, and reinstall it?
[06:18] <defrysk> coffee :)
[06:18] <jorik> defrysk, i dunno, im thinking maybe the other repos dont all run ftp ?
[06:18] <defrysk> jorik, originally they are all ftp
[06:18] <Flame> Not yet
[06:18] <Flame> I was hoping to avoid that.
[06:19] <CaBlGuY> ahhh
[06:19] <Flame> Speaking of which...anyone here use Stealthbot with this OS?
[06:19] <CaBlGuY> ok, well, pull up a chair..  and have a sit..
[06:19] <Flame> :D
[06:19] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[06:19] <defrysk> http is often used to avoid traffic shaping I guess
[06:19] <Flame> ;)
[06:19] <defrysk> traffic shaping policies that is
[06:21] <jbirdAngel> is there a way in konversation to make it so that only 1 room notifies me upon a new message in channel?
[06:23] <defrysk> jbirdAngel, put yourself on /away on the other rooms might do the trick :)
[06:23] <jbirdAngel> defrysk: ok but then would i not get any notification from those rooms even if they say my username?
[06:24] <defrysk> jbirdAngel, not sure , but try it and find out :)
[06:24] <jbirdAngel> defrysk okay thanks
[06:24] <jbirdAngel> oh okay
[06:24] <jbirdAngel> do you use kontact?
[06:24] <defrysk> nope
[06:25] <jbirdAngel> ok thanks
[06:25] <jorik> defrysk, i replaced the http's with ftp's and did an update (which went well), when i did a dist-upgrade however, it still failed all the time. im thinking, just because you grab the lists from the repo's over ftp instead of http, will that really change where apt will look for the packages itself ?
[06:25] <Flame> ^^
[06:25] <defrysk> jorik, witch repos fail ?
[06:25] <jbirdAngel> ah okay
[06:25] <defrysk> all of them ?
[06:25] <Flame> No, it will change how it gets them though...
[06:26] <Flame> <-- living proof
[06:26] <defrysk> or only the ones starting with se ?
[06:26] <Flame> Lol
[06:26] <defrysk> jorik, its about the connection nothing else
[06:27] <defrysk> anyway I have to go for now ...
[06:27] <defrysk> later all
[06:27] <Flame> Later
[06:27] <defrysk> Flame, you are swedish right ?
[06:27] <Flame> Umm...not that I know of >.>
[06:27] <Flame> Lol
[06:27] <defrysk> hehe
[06:27] <Flame> xD
[06:27] <jorik> defrysk, http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/760040
[06:27] <defrysk> you used se repo ?
[06:28] <defrysk> Flame, ?
[06:28] <Flame> Nope, I used the gb ones
[06:28] <defrysk> ok
[06:28] <Flame> And they work well with the FTP bit :D
[06:28] <ubuntu> hi there running ubuntu live to deal with a problem, how do i install gparted to this live thing
[06:28] <jorik> defrysk: btw, i used the se repo, someone said that would solve my "subprocess gzip failed with error 1" errors (which it did)
[06:29] <defrysk> jorik, kubuntu.org repos wegcommenten
[06:29] <defrysk> en dan weer proberen
[06:29] <defrysk> jorik, you have to use ftp
[06:30] <defrysk> get rid of the http and change it to ftp
[06:30] <defrysk> seriously
[06:30] <jorik> hmmmm
[06:30] <jorik> i love you
[06:30] <defrysk> jorik, http does not work
[06:30] <jorik> thx :D its all downloading without errors now
[06:31] <defrysk> joch, ftp ?
[06:31] <jorik> (over ftp yes)
[06:31] <defrysk> cool
[06:31] <luh> exhale, i have the error messages from when I do startx
[06:31] <luh> do you think that would be of any help?
[06:31] <defrysk> they seem to have dns probs on the servers I guess
[06:31] <jbirdAngel> defrysk: will you say a message with my name in it to see if i get notified?
[06:31] <defrysk> no for my disches
[06:31] <defrysk> jbirdAngel, sure
[06:31] <defrysk> no = now :(
[06:31] <jbirdAngel> defrysk: okay thank you, and i did
[06:32] <codec> hey there
[06:32] <defrysk> and not sattelite dishes unfortunately
[06:32] <codec> ;]
[06:32] <korozion> I had downloaded 6.06 last month, now that it's been released, should I download it again, if I'm going to do a new install on another computer?
[06:32] <defrysk> korozion, download it again for the updates are as big and take longer to install then a fresh install
[06:32] <codec> i have a problem with the mp3s
[06:33] <korozion> perfect, thanks
[06:33] <codec> can u help me?
[06:33] <defrysk> !mp3
[06:33] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:33] <PyroMithrandir> !ask
[06:33] <ubotu> For information on how to ask good questions please see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The more information you can give the better we can help you. If your going to give output of commands please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:33] <defrysk> anyway.....dishes....
[06:33] <defrysk> :(
[06:33] <codec> 10x
[06:35] <Flame> Anyone here run Stealthbot?
[06:38] <moopere> anyone have a good laugh that kde 3.5.3 was released on the 31st may, 1 day before dapper went out the door?
[06:39] <dein> is 3.5.3 a good improvement from 3.5.2?
[06:39] <dein> or more of the same?
[06:39] <_Pete_> I didn't notice any difference yet :)
[06:39] <_Pete_> upgraded to it yesterday
[06:39] <dein> well maybe ill upgrade to it right now
[06:39] <Flame> Anyone here run Stealthbot?
[06:40] <kosh> just more bugfixes and it logs into the desktop faster for me
[06:40] <codec> damn :[
[06:40] <weedar> Does anyone know if the rt2500 wlan card is supported during install?
[06:40] <elisiano> bye
[06:40] <codec> cant find gstreamer.0.10.ugly
[06:40] <kosh> since it changed the startup order so when you have lots of apps that start back up it does it a lot faster
[06:40] <weedar> I need to know if I can rely on it or if I need a wired connection to the internet
[06:40] <mikmak> ok kopete does not build on amd64, as usual ...
[06:41] <mikmak> i give up
[06:41] <jbirdAngel> defrysk: i think i did it wrong, can you do anohter message for me? htank you
[06:41] <moopere> arg, damn kopete segfaults
[06:41] <dein> moopere: why not use kontact?
[06:41] <Japsu> -_-
[06:41] <moopere> yeah, I should
[06:41] <dein> also, how do i upgrade my kde on ubuntu
[06:42] <dein> er kubuntu
[06:42] <dein> lol
[06:42] <moopere> dein: you want 3.5.3?
[06:42] <Japsu> dein: see the front page of kubuntu.org
[06:42] <dein> yes
[06:42] <_Pete_> moopere: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-353.php
[06:42] <moopere> dein: I'm running it here on 3 machines but I'm not at all sure its stable
[06:42] <Japsu> dein: in brief, 1) update /etc/apt/sources.list 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get upgrade
[06:42] <r0xz> dein: add some lines in sources.list
[06:42] <r0xz> see link above yes
[06:42] <moopere> dein: seems like plently of stuff crashes
[06:43] <dein> hmm maybe ill just wait
[06:43] <dein> not to big on crashiness
[06:43] <moopere> hows the stability of 3.5.2 everyone?  I only ran it for 5 minutes when dapper was released before I realised that 3.5.3 was out and I think I jumped in too early
[06:44] <dr_willis> never noticed the update. :P or did ya have to do somthing special to upgrade to it?
[06:44] <dein> i havent had too much trouble with it, and it's much faster than suse 10.1
[06:44] <crimsun> 3.5.2 is, by some reports, more stable than 3.5.3
[06:44] <Flame> Anyone here run Stealthbot?
[06:44] <crimsun> Flame: did you resolve your lynx issue?
[06:45] <Flame> Yeah actually ^__^
[06:45] <vassilis> hello everyone
[06:45] <Flame> Whats his name...defrysk helped me change the repository addresses to FTp rather than http..
[06:45] <Flame> And now it works :O
[06:45] <Flame> :)
[06:45] <moopere> I'm after speed and 3.5.3 is certainly fast, but I'm having funny results with some programs, perhaps not stable yet.  I'm sure that JR will get a new Dapper build out soonish
[06:45] <vassilis> My internet connection (DSL through router)does not work at startup
[06:46] <Riddell> moopere: what problems?
[06:46] <dein> i think im gonna reinstall my dapper
[06:46] <vassilis> I have to disable and reenable the eth0 interface to make it work
[06:46] <vassilis> any ideas?
[06:47] <dein> i'm having problems with certain packages wont unpack, and i can't get azureus to work properly
[06:47] <slow-motion> bbl
[06:48] <moopere> Riddell: kopete is segfaulting for a start :))
[06:49] <m00nzter> hi
[06:49] <_silje> hi everybody. Do anyone know where the file that contains the ifconfig_ra0="dhcp" is?
[06:49] <_silje> You see everytime i reboot i need to do a "sudo ifup ra0"
[06:49] <_silje> and since its my fathers computer and he hates commands, its kinda sad:P
[06:50] <moopere> Riddell: Ok to plonk kde 3.5.3 reports onto launchpad?
[06:50] <Riddell> moopere: yeah
[06:50] <Riddell> so long as you make it clear it's from kubuntu.org 3.5.3
[06:50] <dein> has anyone had any problems getting sun-java5-bin to install? and if so, do you know what causes it?
[06:51] <m00nzter> -.-
[06:51] <vassilis> dein: I had some problems
[06:51] <moopere> Riddell: ok, I'll do that.  I have a pretty serious bunch of tests I always do on upgrades (or with new distros) so I'll do those and then waddle off to LP with reports :))
[06:51] <vassilis> sun-java5-demo was reported broken
[06:51] <dr_willis> dein:  you trying to install it from the console/shell eh?  try it with synaptic
[06:51] <dein> adept/
[06:51] <dein> ?
[06:52] <dr_willis> dein:  it wants you to click on some eula last i used.. and it needed to be install from synaptic last i messed withit.
[06:52] <Riddell> moopere: there's also https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuAdditionalRepositories/KDE353
[06:52] <moopere> Riddell: Is the 3.5.3 on kubuntu.org built against dapper release or RC2?
[06:52] <dr_willis> dein:  thers some other tweak i think that may fix it also.
[06:52] <vassilis> is that what you mean?
[06:52] <_silje> anyone plz
[06:52] <m00nzter> - i can't install dapper drake on my laptop, screen switches off after loading screen
[06:52] <_silje> dosn't anyone know where to add my wireless card device on boot?
[06:52] <jbirdAngel> how do i set something other than kate as my default
[06:52] <dein> ill download and install synaptic then
[06:52] <dr_willis> _silje:  could use that rc.local script
[06:52] <ShastaMaroon> is kde 3.5.3 going to go under the standard update repository?
[06:52] <dein> m00nzter: what video card type are you using?
[06:53] <defrysk> ShastaMaroon, not in dapper
[06:53] <m00nzter> x700 mobility
[06:53] <dr_willis> dein:  i forget teh other fix. it set    how apt-get prompted  for dialogs.
[06:53] <m00nzter> @dein > x700 mobility
[06:53] <sandis> Hello! How do i get java working in konqueror?
[06:53] <Riddell> moopere: dapper release
[06:53] <Riddell> ShastaMaroon: no
[06:53] <vassilis> dein: the manual install described in the ubuntu wiki dor RestrictedFormats worked for me
[06:53] <_silje> dr_willis: what to add there? ifconfig_ra0="dhcp" ?
[06:53] <Flame> Anyone here run Stealthbot?
[06:53] <defrysk> sandis, install java and it should run by default
[06:54] <Flame> Or anything related to Bnet?
[06:54] <dein> it might be a problem of you need the proprietary ati drivers
[06:54] <dr_willis> _silje:  not sure about that. since thats a env variable.   you got to type come command ti get it working?
[06:54] <moopere> Riddell: Whats this link you pointed me at? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuAdditionalRepositories/KDE353 - is this an official 'issues' page?  or a workaround page??
[06:54] <m00nzter> @dein : how do I install the ati drivers if there is no kubuntu installed yet ?
[06:54] <vassilis> anyone can help me about my eth0 problem?
[06:55] <sandis> defrysk: do i have to change anything in "java and javascript settings"?
[06:55] <luh> i doubt that my problem will be solved just with dapper
[06:55] <defrysk> sandis, nope
[06:55] <_silje> dr_willis: yes, everytime I reboot i need to type ifup ra0
[06:55] <sandis> defrysk: ok, ill try it.
[06:55] <dr_willis> _silje:  then toss that in /etc/rc.local
[06:55] <defrysk> to get flash going you have to update pluginsearch
[06:55] <defrysk> or something
[06:55] <_silje> dr_willis: aight:P
[06:56] <dein> ah
[06:56] <dein> it's installing now
[06:56] <m00nzter> yepp
[06:56] <dein> ok synaptic worked
[06:56] <m00nzter> :S
[06:56] <dein> hmm
[06:56] <dein> you havent installed kubuntu at all yet?
[06:56] <Flame> O.o
[06:56] <m00nzter> on my desktop px
[06:56] <dein> what are you running right now then?
[06:56] <m00nzter> -x+c
[06:57] <m00nzter> nope
[06:57] <cromo> does anyone know what happend with the qtcurve? It disappeared from kde-look.org :O
[06:57] <Riddell> moopere: semi-official
[06:58] <dein> hmm dont know how to answer that moonzter
[06:58] <rolo> how can i install gparted to the jubuntu live?
[06:58] <rolo> i meant kubuntu not jubu...
[06:59] <dein> ok another question from me
[06:59] <dein> im using the ubuntu azureus package
[06:59] <dein> it opens and everything, but it's extemely buggy
[07:00] <dein> for example i cant close status messages unless they auto-close themselves
[07:01] <mnytr> back again
[07:01] <defrysk> dein, its a bug of azureus , not ubuntu
[07:01] <dein> bah ok
[07:01] <defrysk> bahaha
[07:01] <dein> so everyone's got the same problem atm?
[07:01] <defrysk> ;p
[07:02] <jaims> hi
[07:02] <m00nzter> exit
[07:02] <dein> guess im stuck with bittorrent classic
[07:02] <kronoz> dein, #azuerus said it was a problem with the gtk version in dapper
[07:02] <defrysk> dein, I ran azureus from the download and has the same bug
[07:02] <kronoz> dein, use ktorrent :)
[07:02] <crimsun> kronoz: did they give more details?
[07:02] <remy> hi
[07:02] <defrysk> [[[[[ktorrent] ] ] ] ] ]
[07:02] <dein> ktorrent seems slow to me for some reason
[07:02] <dein> really slow
[07:03] <defrysk> dein, get the latest its mutch better
[07:03] <remy> I try using firefox on dapper
[07:03] <dein> 2.0?
[07:03] <defrysk> dein, http://rapidshare.de/files/22170949/ktorrent_2.0beta1_i386.deb.html
[07:03] <remy> but libgtk2.0-0 is needed
[07:03] <defrysk> I use it and its superlightweight
[07:04] <dein> ill give it a try
[07:04] <dein> ive been tired of azureus being a resource hog for a long time
[07:04] <champy> Hello, chaps
[07:04] <defrysk> dein, thats why I switched
[07:04] <champy> !tar
[07:05] <dein> but so far nothing matches its download speed and ease of use
[07:05] <defrysk> dein, this ktorrent can run days and days on end
[07:05] <remy> and ligtk2.0-0 depends libgtk2.0-0-bin
[07:05] <defrysk> remy, what are you doing ?
[07:06] <remy> but libgtk2.0-0-bin depends libgtk2.0-0 >=2.8.0
[07:06] <remy> I need some help
[07:06] <jaims> and, have you been able to 'download and convert' the antip2p.txt at bluetack?
[07:06] <jaims> my ktorrent hangs when i try to do so
[07:07] <defrysk> remy, sudo apt-get install firefox
[07:07] <defrysk> try that
[07:07] <jaims> Im talking 'bout the ipblocking thing
[07:07] <mikmak> :/
[07:08] <defrysk> jaims, I did that and it requires patience to get the conversion done
[07:08] <jaims> aha
[07:08] <defrysk> as in time
[07:08] <jaims> is it necessary to get the ipblocking working?
[07:08] <defrysk> like compiling Oo
[07:08] <defrysk> jaims, no
[07:08] <champy> Hello, guys
[07:08] <jaims> :-)
[07:08] <defrysk> I dont use it
[07:08] <jaims> hi
[07:08] <jaims> I see
[07:09] <remy> it answer me that there is no package named firefox
[07:09] <defrysk> jaims, i did but it slowed down the downspeed
[07:09] <champy> Anyt ideas on this one? vncviewer: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:09] <jaims> I don't like all these people beeng able to 'spy' ips
[07:09] <jaims> ya
[07:09] <dein> thanks defrysk, this ktorrent is much better
[07:09] <dein> its upnp actually works
[07:09] <defrysk> dein, enjoy :)
[07:09] <defrysk> dein, sure does :)
[07:09] <champy> Anyt ideas on this one? vncviewer: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:10] <jaims> I am not downloading files all the time, after all, but i like feeling safe in this sense
[07:10] <jaims> if someone is collecting unfriendly ips, let's use the filters so we avoid them
[07:11] <luh> I'm getting somewhat annoyed by it
[07:11] <luh> i have still no x server running
[07:12] <DjDarkman> hy ,i have a serious problem ,azureus won`t run ,and I get erors like these in the cli http://pastebin.com/760165
[07:12] <DjDarkman> can someone tell me what`s wrong?
[07:12] <defrysk> DjDarkman, sunjava installed ?
[07:12] <DjDarkman> yes
[07:13] <defrysk> then I do not know :s
[07:13] <DjDarkman> and i have other problem ,i can`t install opera
[07:13] <DjDarkman> it says i don`t have xlibs installed
[07:13] <defrysk> DjDarkman, using automatix ?
[07:14] <DjDarkman> no
[07:14] <defrysk> good
[07:15] <jaims> champy, have u tried krdc?
[07:15] <defrysk> DjDarkman,  no clue
[07:15] <DjDarkman> i have installed Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0
[07:15] <Flame> How do I open a program with Wine?
[07:15] <jaims> I have not installed vncviewer; but I can access other systems through vnc with krdc
[07:16] <defrysk> DjDarkman, you are on kde ?
[07:16] <jorik> Flame, "wine program.exe"
[07:16] <jaims> using it after plain kubuntu installation works ok
[07:16] <DjDarkman> yes defrysk
[07:16] <defrysk> strange
[07:16] <robinsw> Apparently, I'm missing a shared library... how can I install this one? libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[07:17] <remy> defrysk, could you help me to find libgtk2.0-0 (=2.8.0)?
[07:17] <defrysk> robinsw, sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[07:17] <robinsw> defrysk... cheers, mate.
[07:17] <Flame> hm
[07:18] <robinsw> Defrysk:
[07:18] <robinsw> libstdc++5 is already the newest version.
[07:18] <robinsw> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:18] <robinsw> Trying to run vncviewer
[07:18] <Flame> I cant seem to get Wine to open any of these...so Im guessing its not the way Im trying to open them
[07:18] <Flame> How do I check if Wine is broken?
[07:18] <robinsw> But it's giving me the error message about libstdc
[07:18] <Flame> "broken" anyways
[07:18] <jaims> luh, do you have an ati card?
[07:18] <defrysk> remy, I have no clue what you did but i think you mixed repos
[07:20] <Flame> How do I...reinstall Wine?
[07:20] <defrysk> sudo apt-get remove wine ?
[07:20] <defrysk> then remove the .wine files
[07:20] <defrysk> then install it again
[07:20] <Flame> Remove the files by...?
[07:21] <jpatrick> sudo apt-get remove wine --purge
[07:21] <defrysk> rm -rf /home/<username>.wineblabla
[07:21] <Flame> and then I use...sudo apt-get install wine
[07:21] <Flame> Right?
[07:21] <defrysk> rm -rf /home/<username>/.wineblabla
[07:21] <defrysk> even
[07:21] <jpatrick> yes
[07:22] <jpatrick> defrysk: rm -rf ~/.wine*
[07:22] <Flame> How do I upgrade it? It says there are three not upgraded parts to it
[07:22] <robinsw> Guys guys guys! Anybody know how the hell I can run the vncviewer when I'm getting this error: ./vncviewer: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:22] <defrysk> jpatrick, in a nutshell yup
[07:22] <defrysk> :)
[07:22] <Flame> sudo apt-get upgrade wine?
[07:22] <defrysk> Flame, install
[07:23] <Flame> So from a terminal...I would do...what?
[07:23] <robinsw> Anybody know how I can run the vncviewer when I'm getting this error: ./vncviewer: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:23] <defrysk> sudo apt-get remove wine --purge
[07:23] <Davidosky> Anybody know how i can restore mine menu grub? i have installed Kubuntu and after some day i have installed winxp.
[07:24] <Flame> >.>
[07:24] <Flame> ok, then what?
[07:24] <jpatrick> robinsw: install libc6 ?
[07:24] <defrysk> rm -rf ~/.wine*
[07:24] <Flame> kk
[07:24] <Flame> did that
[07:24] <defrysk> sudo apt-get install wine
[07:25] <Flame> Ok
[07:25] <Bazzi> ensure to take the 0.9.14 package off the wine site and not dappers
[07:25] <defrysk> winecfg
[07:25] <robinsw> jpatrick, how's that done from term?
[07:25] <defrysk> en set it up
[07:25] <Flame> under the run command? Or the terminal?
[07:25] <defrysk> terminal
[07:25] <Flame> wine: creating configuration directory '/home/kumar/.wine'...
[07:25] <jpatrick> robinsw: sudo apt-get install libc6
[07:25] <Flame> Is what it gives me
[07:25] <defrysk> run command is for wusses
[07:26] <Flame> And its just...going >.>
[07:26] <robinsw> jpatrick, it's installed.
[07:26] <remy> defrysk, see it http://kubuntu-fr.pastebin.com/760195     it's the answer when i try launching firefox
[07:26] <defrysk> Flame, wine is also for wusses actually >;)
[07:26] <jpatrick> odd
[07:26] <Flame> ^^
[07:27] <Flame> Well, I cant find a version of either Stealthbot or SubSpace: Continuum to run off of anything except Windows :(
[07:27] <defrysk> remy, show me your sources.list
[07:27] <conor> !mp3
[07:27] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:27] <defrysk> in pastebin
[07:27] <robinsw> jpatrick, still doesn't work. :/
[07:27] <Flame> Ok I got the winecfg up
[07:27] <Flame> I add application?
[07:27] <jpatrick> robinsw: I dunno
[07:27] <defrysk> set the disks up and the cd stuff
[07:27] <robinsw> jpatrick, neither do I! =D
[07:27] <defrysk> whater
[07:27] <robinsw> lol
[07:28] <defrysk> set it to w2k
[07:28] <Flame> Right
[07:28] <MasterEvilAce> has anyone had ANY problems with KDE 3.5.3?
[07:28] <defrysk> thats it
[07:28] <defrysk> autosearch or something
[07:28] <Flame> And then under the terminal use wine ___.exe
[07:28] <Flame> ?
[07:28] <Davidosky> who know how i can restore menu grub?
[07:28] <defrysk> MasterEvilAce, no
[07:28] <Bazzi> MasterEvilAce, yes
[07:28] <MasterEvilAce> Bazzi: any examples?
[07:28] <defrysk> Flame, yes if it works it does when it does not it does not
[07:29] <Bazzi> MasterEvilAce: automount issues mainly
[07:29] <MasterEvilAce> ah, ok
[07:29] <defrysk> mount even
[07:29] <Flame> Whats the automount do?
[07:29] <Flame> or mount for that matter...>.>
[07:29] <defrysk> it mounts outo
[07:29] <defrysk> auto
[07:30] <remy> defrysk, see it http://kubuntu-fr.pastebin.com/760200
[07:30] <defrysk> Flame, insert a cd and it mounts....
[07:30] <Flame> Oooh
[07:30] <Flame> Well
[07:30] <defrysk> remy, you have everything commented out
[07:30] <Flame> What if I DL the program?
[07:31] <Flame> >.>
[07:31] <defrysk> remy, change http to ftp in your repo , should do the trick
[07:31] <bleaked> does anyone here use abcde?
[07:31] <remy> defrysk, ok
[07:31] <defrysk> and uncomment your needed repositories :)
[07:32] <remy> defrysk ,ok
[07:32] <defrysk> can someone put something about http/ftp in repos in the topic please ?
[07:32] <defrysk> http seems to fail
[07:33] <luh> jaims, nope - a sis graphics card
[07:33] <robinsw> Anybody know why I'm getting the error vncviewer: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory when trying to run VNC Viewer?
[07:33] <robinsw> Says that the library is installed when I try to install it
[07:33] <robinsw> :/
[07:33] <slow-motion> re
[07:34] <Flame> Defrysk: What do I do if I just Dled the program..?
[07:34] <Flame> Should I burn it to a disk and mount the disk?
[07:34] <Flame> Would it be easier to work it that way?
[07:34] <jaims> robinsw, have you tried the krdc app?
[07:34] <Bazzi> robinsw: broken symlink maybe?
[07:34] <defrysk> Flame, ?
[07:35] <robinsw> krdc, eh?
[07:35] <robinsw> How's this work?
[07:35] <jaims> yeah
[07:35] <Bazzi> robinsw: what does a libstdc++-libc6 search result in?
[07:35] <jaims> applications menu/internet/krdc
[07:35] <jaims> I use it to get way to another desktop via vnc
[07:35] <defrysk> Flame, http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl8_automou.htm
[07:36] <Flame> oooh../clicks
[07:39] <docta_v> i'm using ati big desktop...after upgrading to dapper i can no longer use both monitors in kde
[07:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> halo?!
[07:40] <docta_v> when kdm is up before i login, i can move my mouse between both screens but once kde launches i'm stuck on just the left screen
[07:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !xgl
[07:40] <ubotu> xgl is, like, totally, "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[07:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> !dapper
[07:41] <ubotu> DAPPER IS OUT! PARTY TIME! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-June/000083.html
[07:41] <flavioribeiro> anyone can answer me if the kubuntu6.06 dapper its bigger than 700mb?
[07:42] <MasterEvilAce> i just d/led from site like an hour ago
[07:42] <moopere> flavioribeiro: the cd image u mean?
[07:42] <MasterEvilAce> it's 696mb
[07:42] <flavioribeiro> yes!
[07:43] <moopere> flavioribeiro: its definately <=700Mb or it wouldn't fit on a std 700mb cd media
[07:43] <remy> defrysk, done and fetch updates too
[07:43] <remy> defrysk, i have founf libgtk2.0-0
[07:43] <defrysk> remy, good :)
[07:43] <remy> defrysk, thanks for your help
[07:43] <defrysk> yw
[07:44] <remy> defrysk, now firefox runs
[07:44] <Flame> Hmm. I just realized...1 PM is not my ideal time to be fighting Kubuntu...
[07:44] <Flame> Lol
[07:44] <remy> defrysk, thanks and bye
[07:44] <defrysk> remy, enjoy
[07:47] <Flame> If I DL a package...and install a program with it
[07:47] <Flame> How do I get it listed under the tabs?
[07:48] <jaims> bye
[07:48] <Flame> Like if I install FireFox, how do I get it listed under the Internet tab?
[07:48] <robinsw> !bin
[07:48] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, robinsw
[07:48] <robinsw> Help! Downloaded a .bin file and need to install it
[07:49] <Flame> After I install FireFox, how do I get it listed under the Internet tab?
[07:49] <robinsw> Help! Downloaded a .bin file and need to install it
[07:49] <seth> Flame, why are you not just installing Firefox from the repository?
[07:50] <Flame> Umm...I dunno, I should have.
[07:50] <Flame> But I didnt.
[07:50] <Flame> Lol
[07:50] <seth> so uninstall
[07:50] <seth> and reinstall from the repo
[07:50] <seth> and you get an icon for it
[07:50] <Flame> And then itll add it?
[07:50] <Flame> :O!
[07:50] <Flame> kk
[07:51] <robinsw> Help! Downloaded a .bin file and need to install it. It's the JRE.
[07:51] <seth> robinsw, the JRE is available in the repositories
[07:51] <robinsw> seth... thanks
[07:52] <seth> you need to enable the Multiverse repository, robinsw
[07:52] <seth> then install package sun-java5-bin
[07:52] <docta_v> i'm having this exact problem with kubuntu and BigDesktop: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=173986 ... anyone have any ideas?
[07:53] <robinsw> seth: how do I enable that repository?
[07:53] <seth> robinsw, open Konsole and type:
[07:53] <seth> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:54] <Flame> Seth?
[07:54] <seth> robinsw, input your password, then find lines beginning with # that talk about Multiverse
[07:54] <Flame> I reinstalled thru the repo...thru Adept. And still nothing.
[07:54] <seth> robinsw, remove the #
[07:54] <seth> Flame, should be in K Menu > Internet. That's where mine is
[07:54] <_Pete_> seth: you have some serious problems teaching newbies, correct line would be: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:54] <_Pete_> :)
[07:54] <conor> http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/2885/snapshot16lt.png im trying to get mp3s working should i have anything else installed
[07:54] <Flame> Seth: Right. But...its not :O
[07:54] <Flame> >.<
[07:55] <_Pete_> when the user has found out the way out from vi
[07:55] <_Pete_> he/she is ready for everything :)
[07:55] <seth> _Pete_, you're not on my ignore list, cheers
[07:55] <seth> not = now
[07:55] <Flame> Heh
[07:56] <robinsw> seth: How do I save the config file when done? And do I need to relog?
[07:56] <seth> Flame, have you tried restarting KDE? I don't see why that would help, but it's worth a shot
[07:56] <seth> robinsw, you do not need to re-login. Just click File, Save
[07:56] <Flame> Hmm
[07:56] <crimsun> Flame: not sure if you answered my question.
[07:56] <seth> robinsw, then in Adept, click the Fetch Updates button
[07:56] <Flame> Seth: How do I restart KDE without rebooting the whole bit? Or do I have to reboot as a whole?
[07:56] <Flame> Crim: ?
[07:57] <crimsun> Flame: weren't you having problems installing lynx?
[07:57] <seth> Flame, you need only to log out. Rebooting is not needed :)
[07:57] <defrysk> Flame, ctrl alt backspace
[07:57] <robinsw> seth... can't see a fetch updates button. :/
[07:57] <Flame> Crim: No no, my issue was that NOTHING would update. Defrysk got me to change to ftp and now it all updates ^_^
[07:57] <crimsun> Flame: k
[07:58] <robinsw> Ah...
[07:58] <robinsw> Hang on, think I've found it
[07:58] <seth> robinsw, it should be the very first icon I think? looks like recycle arrows?
[07:58] <defrysk> crimsun, could you put something about that in the topic ?
[07:58] <robinsw> Yup
[07:58] <robinsw> Got it
[07:58] <crimsun> defrysk: what's the issue?
[07:58] <defrysk> the http/ftp stuf
[07:58] <robinsw> I was using Add/Remove Programs.
[07:58] <seth> no worries, the icons are the same
[07:58] <defrysk> many people cannot use their repos unles they swith them to ftp
[07:58] <Flame> Yay! Its added now thanks :)
[07:58] <seth> Flame, cheers
[07:58] <seth> have a good time
[07:59] <crimsun> defrysk: meaning archive.u.c or a mirror?
[07:59] <defrysk> uk had it , se had it an someone else had it too
[07:59] <Flame> Curious...whats good uptime from a box running Kubuntu compared to one on XP?
[07:59] <defrysk> forgot the cc
[07:59] <defrysk> Flame, 3 months to 3 days ?
[08:00] <Flame> O.o
[08:00] <Flame> This might be useful for leaving on then...^^
[08:00] <_Pete_> defrysk: it's pretty much depends what you use the machine for
[08:00] <seth> I regularly keep my Kubuntu box up for months
[08:00] <Flame> O.o
[08:00] <defrysk> _Pete_, when do you need to reboot then ?
[08:00] <seth> Kernel updates are the only thing you really need to reboot for, Flame
[08:00] <_Pete_> in linux generally: installing new HW / kernel
[08:01] <Flame> Ahh...so how often are those?
[08:01] <_Pete_> in windows generally: Installing some programs
[08:01] <defrysk> _Pete_, new kernel does nod need a reboot unles you wish to use it
[08:01] <_Pete_> that's right
[08:01] <defrysk> nod = not
[08:01] <_Pete_> but I guess you don't install it unless you want to use it
[08:02] <defrysk> so I did not nod
[08:02] <mongey> any help
[08:02] <Flame> Gyah...I was battling WIne, and I gave up and deleted the folders.
[08:02] <Flame> Voila...now it recognized the prog
[08:02] <Flame> and the files are gone
[08:02] <Flame> ./Sigh
[08:02] <defrysk> _Pete_, in the absolute sense there is hardle ever a reason one needs to reboot , thats my point
[08:02] <defrysk> Flame, forget wine use open source
[08:03] <_Pete_> defrysk: well I think you can sturggle with Linux longer not to boot than with windows
[08:03] <Flame> ..>.>?
[08:03] <_Pete_> if you really want to
[08:03] <defrysk> _Pete_, absolutely agree
[08:03] <Flame> Open source?
[08:03] <defrysk> !open source
[08:03] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, defrysk
[08:04] <defrysk> Flame, ubuntu = open source
[08:04] <korozion> is it possible to have a kubuntu livecd, install updates etc, install programs, save all that to either hd or usbkey and be able to load those same settings upon next boot?
[08:04] <jorik> heh, now that im thinking about it, i dont think kubuntu ever asked me to reboot
[08:04] <defrysk> linux is opensource
[08:04] <_Pete_> speaking of uptime, I heard a rumor one guy here in FInland moving from flat to another
[08:04] <_Pete_> he had he's uptime machine connected to the UPS while moving
[08:04] <_Pete_> so no need to reboot :)
[08:04] <defrysk> hehe
[08:05] <jorik> hehehe
[08:05] <dergringo> how can I enhance my amarok to play ogg files?
[08:05] <mongey> its default
[08:05] <defrysk> derek__, it plays ogg by default
[08:05] <mongey> how can I enhance my amarok to play mp3 files?
[08:05] <defrysk> supid autocomplete
[08:05] <mongey> :P
[08:05] <defrysk> !mp3
[08:05] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:06] <defrysk> read it and apply it
[08:06] <Flame> oooh kk
[08:06] <mongey> i have i think
[08:06] <mongey> http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/2885/snapshot16lt.png im trying to get mp3s working should i have anything else installed
[08:06] <mongey> ^^that and ill upload another thing
[08:07] <defrysk> mongey, http://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/ch04s01.html
[08:07] <defrysk> also useful
[08:08] <dergringo> !ogg
[08:08] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, dergringo
[08:12] <jorik> aight this has got to be the weirdest bug ive ever seen : http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/760287
[08:13] <jorik> you'd think QA would catch this
[08:13] <seth> jorik, N is default... I think the english says "the default is to keep your version"
[08:14] <mongey> what the hell its not working
[08:14] <admiral_proFTW> does any one else have a debian folder in their K menu? I can't figure out how to edit it
[08:14] <robinsw> Anybody know how to install files that end .bin?
[08:14] <robinsw> !bin
[08:14] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, robinsw
[08:14] <seth> robinsw, are you still trying to install java from a bin?
[08:14] <RadiantFire> robinsw: ./<file>.bin
[08:15] <tristanmike> ./file.bin ?
[08:15] <korozion> chmod +x file.bin && ./file.bin
[08:15] <korozion> perhaps don't need the chmod +x
[08:15] <admiral_proFTW> robinsw, why dont you use automatix?
[08:15] <jorik> line 5 says: Y or N does blah blah, line 6 says: N or O does blah blah. it might still be decypherable but it's still very very very confusing
[08:15] <robinsw> seth... :)
[08:15] <tristanmike> robinsw: or easyubuntu ?
[08:15] <robinsw> seth, can't find JRE in the repositories?
[08:15] <andrisp> hi all, can you recomend me a front-end for iptables for kde ?
[08:16] <seth> robinsw, it's called sun-java5-bin iirc
[08:16] <robinsw> Cheers.
[08:16] <seth> jorik, ah, I see. Probably a translation bug :) the english version says "Y or I"
[08:16] <seth> if you file a bug, a dapper-updates package can be released shortly, most likely
[08:17] <jorik> yeah the dutch translation is really only so so, im thinking of just ditching it and going with the english one
[08:21] <marian> hi does anyone know's another webadministration-tool but webmin?
[08:23] <Flame> Hi.
[08:23] <Flame> Is there a games tab?
[08:23] <defrysk> yes
[08:23] <Flame> :O
[08:23] <Flame> Where?!
[08:23] <defrysk> sudo apt-get install kdegames
[08:23] <defrysk> there ;p
[08:23] <Flame> Ahhhh
[08:23] <Flame> And then ctrl-alt-backspace and re-enter and itll be there? :O
[08:24] <defrysk> Flame, nope
[08:24] <defrysk> it wil appear automagicly
[08:24] <Flame> Oooh
[08:24] <defrysk> kautomagic even ;p
[08:24] <Flame> I thought you were going to say "No. GOOD LUCK"
[08:24] <Flame> :P
[08:24] <Flame> Any OTHER fun kde packages...?
[08:24] <Flame> That KDE was too kind to mention?
[08:24] <Flame> Lol
[08:25] <defrysk> isnt kdegames not installed by default ?
[08:25] <defrysk> anyway....
[08:25] <Flame> Apparently not
[08:25] <mongey> anyone wanna help me
[08:25] <Flame> Is there a  list somewhere?
[08:25] <Flame> of all the metapackages?
[08:25] <mongey> oh nvm
[08:25] <defrysk> mongey, only when asking a question anyone wil help
[08:26] <mongey> well i was thinkin of remoteassistance
[08:26] <defrysk> anyone?
[08:26] <defrysk> !anyone
[08:26] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[08:27] <CaBlGuY> ok, my java aint workin...
[08:27] <CaBlGuY> :/
[08:27] <mongey> someone that wont mess with me and is willing to help want to help me?
[08:27] <mongey> better?
[08:27] <defrysk> tsss
[08:27] <defrysk> no you need to ask a question
[08:27] <mongey> well
[08:27] <mongey> i need to get mp3's to play
[08:27] <mongey> but im doing something wrong that i cant see
[08:27] <CaBlGuY> so the command would be, apt-get install Java or Java-run-time    yes??
[08:28] <CaBlGuY> !java
[08:28] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:29] <defrysk> CaBlGuY, apt-cache search jave and you'll get your answer
[08:29] <defrysk> CaBlGuY, apt-cache search java that is
[08:29] <Flame> Hehe
[08:29] <defrysk> grep jre
[08:30] <CaBlGuY> defrysk:  k..  I found it on the wiki to.  ;)
[08:30] <geburah> hi
[08:31] <defrysk> mongey, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-f06eb8f6a8cbb1ed38dd019b7dde9f0f7bb26160
[08:32] <geburah> does anyone now if is there a channel for kubuntu on ppc?
[08:32] <defrysk> mongey so sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs libk3b2-mp3
[08:34] <mongey> defrysk: didnt work
[08:34] <mencey> buenas
[08:34] <defrysk> mongey, what are you using to play mp3 ?
[08:35] <mongey> amarok
[08:36] <defrysk> mongey, set amarok to xine engine
[08:36] <mongey> by?
[08:36] <defrysk> a sec
[08:36] <mongey> ty
[08:37] <jorik> uhm
[08:37] <jorik> ok
[08:37] <defrysk> mongey, in amarok : setting > configure amarok > engine soundsystem to xine engine
[08:37] <jorik> im freakin a little right about now; i did a dist-upgrade and it downloaded allll the things i needed and started unpacking them and stuff and went on and on and on and then it stopped with an error
[08:37] <geburah> tahnks for your help
[08:38] <RadiantFire> jorik: what error?
[08:38] <mongey> it is
[08:38] <defrysk> mongey, it is what ?
[08:38] <jorik> it says it found an error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-5.0_5.0.21-3ubuntu1_i386.deb (error: subprocess dpkg returned an error code (1))
[08:39] <RadiantFire> mmm, dpkg -r mysql-server-5.0 and then dist-upgrade
[08:39] <RadiantFire> again
[08:39] <RadiantFire> when your done just reinstall mysql
[08:39] <RadiantFire> i had that problem once with cups-pdf and my system turned out fine
[08:39] <jorik> oh ok
[08:40] <mongey> its already xine engine
[08:40] <jorik> oh no
[08:40] <jorik> i see the problem
[08:40] <defrysk> mongey then it should play mp3's after restarting amarok
[08:40] <jorik> it's because / is full
[08:41] <defrysk> mongey, that means rightclick the docked icon of amarok and do quit
[08:41] <defrysk> and then restart it
[08:41] <vio> hi
[08:41] <mongey> i did
[08:41] <mongey> same still
[08:42] <vio> anyone got a step-by-step guide howto intall the nvidia gfx drivers?
[08:42] <vio> i found a howto in the wiki but thats for ubuntu only
[08:42] <defrysk> what message doe you get ?
[08:42] <dergringo> !mp3
[08:42] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:42] <defrysk> mongey ?
[08:42] <mongey> nuthing
[08:42] <jorik> is there anything i can do to clear out more space ? how do i delete all the debs on my system ?
[08:42] <defrysk> wel is also no bar or timer running or whatever ?
[08:43] <mongey> it just goes throught the songs for .5 of a second with no sound
[08:43] <defrysk> mongey, check if the soundlevels are up
[08:43] <koroded> Does anyone have a working dual-headed video card config they'd like to share?  I've lost my old one, and I can't seem to make it work again
[08:43] <mongey> i can [lay flac and ogg
[08:43] <koroded> it's one card with two vga-outs
[08:43] <crimsun> mongey: dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs |grep ^ii
[08:44] <mongey> crimsun: what do i put that into
[08:44] <crimsun> mongey: konsole
[08:44] <crimsun> mongey: and tell us the output
[08:44] <mongey> dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs |grep ^iiconor@conor-desktop:~$ dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs |grep ^ii
[08:44] <mongey> conor@conor-desktop:~$ dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs |grep ^ii
[08:44] <mongey> conor@conor-desktop:~$ dpkg -l libxine-extracodecs |grep ^ii
[08:44] <mongey> conor@conor-desktop:~$
[08:44] <mongey> nuthin
[08:44] <defrysk> mongey, I told you to install them
[08:45] <mongey> i did
[08:45] <defrysk> why did you not do that ?
[08:45] <mongey> i  thhought
[08:45] <defrysk> :s
[08:45] <MehAdult> What command can I use to edit my partitions?
[08:46] <jorik> okay, starting to freak. every QT app i run gives an error and just shuts down and my / partition is 100% full
[08:46] <defrysk> MehAdult, sudo nano -w /path/to/whateva
[08:47] <MehAdult> I mean like partition management, not file management.
[08:47] <MehAdult> Like resizing partitions, etc.
[08:47] <mongey> defrysk: i get this when i do the thing u told me
[08:47] <mongey> the first thing
[08:47] <mongey> conor@conor-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs libk3b2-mp3
[08:47] <mongey> Password:
[08:47] <mongey> Reading package lists... Done
[08:47] <mongey> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:47] <mongey> Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:47] <mongey> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:47] <mongey> is only available from another source
[08:47] <mongey> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[08:48] <crimsun> !tell mongey about repos
[08:48] <MehAdult> mongey: Also you could use pastebin.com instead of flooding the channel.
[08:48] <mongey> my bad
[08:49] <MehAdult> Anyone got any ideas on how to resize partitions, mount them, etc?
[08:49] <MehAdult> Like a nice tool CLI or GUI based?
[08:50] <MehAdult> I KNOW how to mount stuff but I don't wanna play with that. I just wanna create a small VFAT partition.
[08:50] <MehAdult> Nevermind.
[08:51] <kronoz> !google gparted livecd
[08:51] <ubotu> I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kronoz
[08:51] <v3ctor> kubuntu livecd has qtparted
[08:51] <kronoz> MehAdult: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[08:51] <v3ctor> at least dapper livecd does
[08:51] <kronoz> v3ctor: qtparted is ok, but gparted is better imo
[08:52] <korozion> crap
[08:52] <v3ctor> don't know...i only use fdisk
[08:59] <user-land> is Automatix or EasyUbuntu working with kubuntu ?
[09:00] <Snake> user-land: EasyUbuntu is
[09:00] <user-land> thanks. is the ati driver problematic ?
[09:00] <heinkel_111> hello...anyone familiar with using 2 MSN accounts at the same time with kopete here?
[09:00] <heinkel_111> can they use same port for connection?
[09:01] <defrysk> !automatix
[09:01] <ubotu> Automatix is a utility which helps install various codecs and applications which cannot be part of the default installation, also another utility is called EasyUbuntu, please join #automatix or #easyubuntu for more information
[09:01] <Snake> user-land: not that im aware of
[09:01] <Snake> defrysk: automatix is a piece
[09:02] <defrysk> Snake, I dont use automatix
[09:02] <defrysk> it ruins my box
[09:02] <Snake> defrysk: Thats a good thing ;)
[09:02] <adma> hi folks!
[09:02] <Chousuke> Automatix has supposedly been fixed nowadays.
[09:02] <Snake> So they claim
[09:02] <defrysk> Chousuke, I wouldnt toutch it
[09:02] <user-land> defrysk, what does it do to ruin your box ?
[09:02] <Snake> Ill stick with tried and true automatix
[09:02] <Chousuke> Snake: And apparently #ubuntu agrees, since ubotu's definition has been changed.
[09:02] <adma> have any of you got an idea how I can load my eq settings from winamp into xmms? what are the filenames and where are they located?
[09:02] <defrysk> user-land, dist-upgrades fail due to automatix
[09:03] <Chousuke> defrysk: when was the last time you actually tried it?
[09:03] <defrysk> automatix changes permissions unasked
[09:03] <Chousuke> Maybe I should go read the source code for automatix
[09:03] <defrysk> Chousuke, I'll never try it
[09:03] <Snake> Chousuke: apparently, but as I just said, i'm not going to hold a stick to it until EasyUbuntu is no longer in development.
[09:03] <Chousuke> I suppose that's okay.
[09:04] <Chousuke> Automatix may no longer deserve its bad reputation, but they really screwed up with the first versions.
[09:04] <user-land> distrowatch had a bad experience with EasyUbuntu:
[09:04] <user-land> http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20060605#firstlook
[09:04] <Snake> Chousuke: its supposedly okay since arnieboy left and the auto-matix team took over
[09:04] <defrysk> Chousuke, automatix is a tool I'll never use
[09:05] <fatejudger> I can't seem to get the fglrx drivers working in Dapper now
[09:05] <fatejudger> I had it working before I formatted
[09:05] <fatejudger> which seems very strange to me
[09:05] <jbirdAngel> what does it mean to have a 6 month predicatable release cycle, what if for some reason there was nothing new to add, would it still do a new release
[09:05] <Snake> user-land: that was during Ubuntu Beta, easy ubuntu, nor ubuntu it self was done
[09:05] <neelypeel> heinkel_111: have you tried Konversation? I think it should be able to
[09:05] <Snake> jbirdAngel: theres always something to add :)
[09:05] <soon> Hi there folks ... Is there any point to using Ubuntu rather than Kubuntu? (I'm most familiar with KDE) ... like e.g. more packages available for Ubuntu??
[09:06] <Snake> soon: nope, just prefrence
[09:06] <jbirdAngel> Snake: okay thanks
[09:06] <heinkel_111> neelypeel:  i am here on konversation, what were you thinking of?
[09:06] <user-land> snake, the review is about the dapper release.
[09:06] <defrysk> jbirdAngel, open source never stops improving
[09:06] <kosh> ubuntu is gnome, kubuntu is kde and they both use the same repository
[09:06] <kosh> it is just a matter of defaults on install
[09:06] <kosh> from kubuntu you can install anything in ubuntu and vice versa
[09:06] <defrysk> xubuntu also
[09:06] <jbirdAngel> defrysk: okay thanks :)
[09:06] <Snake> user-land: Ahhhh im sorry man, misread where he was talking about being a beta tester :)
[09:06] <neelypeel> Msg heinkel_111 Sorry, u said kopete...
[09:06] <defrysk> all use main
[09:06] <soon> okay - thanks !
[09:07] <heinkel_111> neelypeel: no problem :)
[09:07] <user-land> i am glad you give good advice here, snake, thanks.
[09:07] <soon> \me is leaving to re-install (upgrade to 6.06)
[09:07] <heinkel_111> neelypeel: or rather, the problem is still with kopete :P