[12:00] <Marko01> Hi guys sorry to bug. Kind of new and really don't want to use the Word Microsoft in this chat but here it goes. Is there a way to have Identities setup in Evolution much the same as Outlook Express, where email from two seperate accounts does not go in the same Inbox.
[12:00] <Guga> dcraven, then what after uninstalling nvidia-common-kernel?
[12:00] <thr1ce> nad, nevermind, got her :)
[12:00] <thr1ce> these codecs should work in totem too right ?
[12:00] <dcraven> Guga, I'm sorry. I am unfamiliar with SIS chips... I wouldn't think the nvidia modules are in order though. I'd restart X after uninstalling them.
[12:00] <nad> thr1ce: theres an faq regarding adding gpg keys (why these problems?)
[12:00] <ishkabob> yeah looks like it
[12:01] <ishkabob> all of them say that it is used by 0
[12:01] <Guga> ok, dcraven.  cross your digits
[12:01] <whnp> Marko01, you can either use filters ... or use vfolders
[12:01] <thr1ce> nad, will totem recognize these codecs ?
[12:01] <dcraven> Guga, good luck :)
[12:01] <ompaul> Marko01, you can write lots of rules to do stuff like that
[12:01] <nad> should
[12:01] <whnp> either way just set it to filter based on the recipient
[12:01] <Marko01> Would I hav to do this via command line?
[12:01] <dcraven> brb
[12:01] <whnp> Marko01,
[12:02] <tcwd> Can someone help me with making my sound work?  I'm a n00b to linux in general.
[12:02] <Guga> blender 3d still won't work, dcraven
[12:02] <tcwd> The driver is installed...
[12:02] <tcwd> and I checked the volume... its not muted...
[12:02] <tcwd> what could the problem be?
[12:02] <beh> ishkabob: try doing modprobe -r sbp2 modprobe -r ohci1394 modprobe -r ieee1394
[12:03] <Shufla> hello :D
[12:03] <ishkabob> k
[12:03] <ishkabob> one second
[12:03] <beh> then re starting them by doing modprobe sbp2 modprobe ohci1394 and modprobe ieee1394
[12:03] <whnp> Marko01, , nope ... just go to tools -> filter editor inside evolution
[12:04] <krusbjorn> g'night
[12:05] <Shufla> rotfl. i'm reading user friendly :D as tech-support worker and coder that comic-book is great :D
[12:05] <Marko01> Cool the thing is I have two emails I just want them both to have there own inboxes. I thank your for your time and effort.
[12:05] <Abood> guys, iv got proplem with sound, when i try to open Totem on a move; it told me Error: Alsa Device "Default" is already in use by another program . ??? any idea ?!
[12:07] <ishkabob> k
[12:07] <ishkabob> i did all those things
[12:07] <whnp> Marko01, if you sort the emails into their own "Inboxes" you can do this with a filter run when the mail comes in
[12:07] <ishkabob> i plugged in the ipod
[12:07] <ishkabob> nothin
[12:07] <ishkabob> oh wait
[12:07] <Marko01> Okay I already have an account setup for marko01 and mail is coming in from my provider.
[12:08] <enplo> is there something like chkconfig in ubuntu?
[12:08] <nad> emplo: no, not yet
[12:08] <Marko01> Now I want to setup Evolution to pull mail down from the same provider using an account on the server called testm.
[12:09] <ishkabob> ok yeah
[12:09] <ishkabob> nothing
[12:09] <nad> ishkabob: tail /var/log/messages
[12:09] <enplo> nad: ok thanks
[12:10] <ishkabob> Apr 20 17:10:35 localhost kernel: sbp2: $Rev: 1219 $ Ben Collins <bcollins@debia n.org>
[12:10] <ishkabob> Apr 20 17:10:46 localhost kernel: ohci1394: $Rev: 1223 $ Ben Collins <bcollins@d ebian.org>
[12:10] <ishkabob> Apr 20 17:10:46 localhost kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:08.0[A]  -> GSI 5 ( level, low) -> IRQ 5
[12:10] <ishkabob> Apr 20 17:10:46 localhost kernel: ohci1394: fw-host0: OHCI-1394 1.1 (PCI): IRQ=[ 5]   MMIO=[ef001000-ef0017ff]   Max Packet=[2048]
[12:10] <ishkabob> Apr 20 17:10:48 localhost ieee1394.agent[9047] :      eth1394: blacklisted
[12:10] <transgress> grar... freaking nvidia driver won't work in 1280x800
[12:10] <nad> ishakabob: yea, i thought the 1394 module was blacklisted
[12:10] <ishkabob> what exactly am i looking for?
[12:10] <ishkabob> what does that mean?
[12:11] <Rav> I have a question regarding dependencies
[12:11] <enplo> one more question. what kernel parameter should i use so that kernel messages are not printed during boot-up?
[12:12] <Rav> One of my programs called for libstdc++6 and it apparently exists for i386.. however the subinfo it getsis apparently (4.0-0pre6ubuntu7)
[12:12] <nad> enplo: install usplash for a boot screen splash image
[12:12] <Rav> Am I looking at anew kernel here?
[12:12] <transgress> the driver is set to `1280x800... but i have about 3 inches of blackness if i use the nvidia xorg.conf
[12:12] <nad> ishkabob: i'm not familiar with ipods, check the forums
[12:13] <enplo> nad: oh, i didn't know usplash was ready yet. thanks, i'll try it out
[12:14] <ishkabob> ok, does anyone else have any ideas about my blacklisted 1394 module?
[12:14] <HrdwrBoB> ishkabob: looks like it's trying to load firewire ethernet?
[12:14] <beh> ishkabob: sometimes it just stays on the charging screen and doesnt go to the do not disconnect screen, i just modprobe -r those 3 modules then re modprobe them until it works. sometimes it takes more than one try
[12:14] <HrdwrBoB> stuff is weird
[12:14] <nad> enplo: it's not packaged yet, go to sourceforge. works fine i hear.
[12:16] <ishkabob> k thanks for all your help
[12:17] <transgress> do the marillat packages work with ubuntu?
[12:17] <SeamusLP> Indeed they do
[12:18] <nad> transgress: 1280x800? is this a widescreen lcd?
[12:18] <transgress> nad:  yeah it's a 15.4 lappy
[12:18] <nad> good luck with the nVidia driver
[12:19] <transgress> nad: heh well others have their's working... i just can't heh
[12:19] <Rav> Hmm still hoping is someone can answer my question regarding (4.0-0pre6ubuntu7)
[12:20] <nad> transgress: the codecs are just libraries, put them in the right spot, voila
[12:20] <transgress> nad:  wouldn't be willing to tell me where to put them wouldya?
[12:20] <transgress> wanna be able to play some of my dvd's
[12:21] <johan1> hello everybody
[12:23] <nad> trangress: /usr/lib/your app/some place
[12:25] <suix> hi
[12:26] <suix> I've problems on playing music with gstreamer
[12:26] <nakata> don't we all...
[12:27] <nakata> the gstringer plugin for amaroK seems to have a hard time crossfading
[12:27] <suix> well it plays music so fast
[12:29] <nad> bye all. the kids wanna eat.
[12:32] <usual> hi
[12:32] <j^3_> hi usual
[12:32] <jcole> how do i make cp copy hidden files/dirs?
[12:33] <beh> jcole are you talking about dirs that start with a dot
[12:35] <jcole> beh: ya, i want to include them in my cp -r
[12:41] <Juhaz> cp -r already copies hidden files
[12:44] <nekohayoo> is there a way to specify the locale to use for a specific user? (for example, have an user have every program in french, or spanish?)
[12:45] <kerframil> nekohayoo: have you tried exporting LANG?
[12:45] <eaon> isn't that done on login through gdm?
[12:45] <kerframil> assuming that you're _not_ using gdm of course ;)
[12:45] <nekohayoo> no, I am.. I just didn't really think of this.. since I'm using fast switching applet
[12:45] <nekohayoo> but it would be cool to have it.. .defaulted
[12:46] <kerframil> nekohayoo: well, gdm let's you choose the language (on a per-user basis) and optionally set it as the default for that user, or just for the session
[12:46] <kerframil> what more could you want?
[12:46] <transgress> would anyone know where the .deb package of libdvdcss2 from marillat installs to?  i'm trying to add the library to totem
[12:47] <speel> Hey hoary is complaining about the nvidia kernel module anything i can do?
[12:47] <nekohayoo> kerframil, if I choose that language to be default, on the gdm login (on TTY8, since it's fast user switched..), will it be on a per-user basis?
[12:47] <kerframil> nekohayoo: yes, I believe so
[12:48] <transgress> ah i found it
[12:48] <nekohayoo> kerframil, I'll give it a try, hold on :)
[12:49] <johan2> I wan't to change the spelling suggestions from swedish to English?
[12:49] <johan2> Im using Gaim
[12:50] <johan2> Can somebody help me?Are total newbe
[12:50] <johan2> :)
[12:50] <stego> Hi, does anyone know why the guide comments out Marillat's sources when installing mplayer and then uncomments them? Apt now tells me it's 'holding back' mplayer-386 every time I do an upgrade.
[12:51] <nekohayoo> kerframil, it works, it's so amazing! :) that's why I love linux. Thanks for the quick advice ^^ the gnome panel was not "translated" however, I believe this may be fixed by killing it?
[12:52] <LinuxJones> johan2, you want to change the default languge that Gnome uses ?
[12:52] <kerframil> nekohayoo: hmm, worth a shot: kill -HUP `pidof gnome-panel`
[12:52] <squinn> oy. I hate it. My wireless adapter works with Warty, not so much Hoary.
[12:53] <stego> kerframil, why not: killall gnome-panel
[12:53] <johan2> LinuxJones: oh I see, I have to change in gnome!!
[12:53] <kerframil> stego: if you want to be pedantic then why not: killall -HUP gnome-panel
[12:53] <kerframil> ;)
[12:53] <LinuxJones> johan2, you jsut wnat to change to english in gaim... or every application (gnome) ??
[12:54] <LinuxJones> johan2, sorry do you want :(
[12:54] <zoldar> has anybody got problems with gvim ?   when i change font, the screen doesn't refresh itself during scrolling, i have to do it by hand with ctrl+L... ??
[12:54] <johan2> LinuxJones: Sorry no I don't want to change defult language only the spelling help.
[12:55] <stego> kerframil, or even: killall -s HUP gnome-panel.
[12:55] <LinuxJones> johan2, ahhh like myspell or something ?
[12:55] <stego> kerframil, *that's* pedantic
[12:55] <kerframil> stego: indeed
[12:56] <LinuxJones> johan2, aspell should be installed by default you will probably want to goto console and type sudo apt-get install aspell-en
[12:56] <nekohayoo> kerframil, nope, didn't change anything.. I'll see on next reboot maybe
[12:56] <nekohayoo> thanks again
[12:56] <kerframil> nekohayoo: hmm, ok
[12:57] <Owl^> ubuntu rox!
[12:57] <Owl^> umm... sorry. :D
[12:57] <Owl^> felt like saying it... because it's true.
[12:57] <johan2> LinuxJones: okej will try!
[01:03] <tweek> manworld
[01:03] <pr3vi0uz>  sup poeple
[01:03] <tweek> lol
[01:03] <tweek> manaworld*
[01:03] <pr3vi0uz> wow?
[01:03] <tweek> worst typo :\
[01:03] <pr3vi0uz>  hehe
[01:05] <pr3vi0uz>  isnt kubuntu the same distro as ubuntu? cause a couple of programs wouldn't run  in gnome but on this kde everything  works ?
[01:06] <limer> is there a burning program that installs by default with ubuntu?
[01:06] <transgress> is it 1280x960 that has the proper ratio?
[01:06] <|QuaD-> limer: cdrecord
[01:06] <limer> cli?
[01:07] <transgress> brb
[01:07] <|QuaD-> uhuh
[01:08] <limer> |QuaD-: I will have to learn more cli burning apps :P  in the meantime, is there a good frontend?
[01:08] <|QuaD-> limer: i am sure there is
[01:08] <Nermal> nautilus, k3b, gnomebaker, xcdroast ?
[01:08] <limer> I didn't realize nautilus could be used as a frontend Nermal, thx :D
[01:08] <Nermal> if you insert a blank cd / dvd nautilus will open at burn:/// for you
[01:10] <les_> i have 3 linux systems on a network, 1 fc2, 1fc3 and ubuntu 5.04.  I have a usb printer conntected thru a usb print server.  I can print for both fc boxes but cannot print from ubuntu, although i can configure using ipp. any suggestions?
[01:10] <CB201> hey guys...what logfile is best for use with root-tail?
[01:10] <LinuxJones> limer, I like graveman and gnomebaker
[01:10] <Nermal>  /var/log/messages?
[01:10] <limer> thx LinuxJones
[01:11] <squinn> weird semi-on-topic question
[01:11] <squinn> best windows cd burner
[01:11] <Nermal> nero ?
[01:11] <squinn> i've got to burn warty again, that's why
[01:11] <pr3vi0uz> lol
[01:11] <Quest-Master> ack
[01:11] <Quest-Master> I hate Nero :(
[01:11] <tweek> :\
[01:11] <justinf> knoppix live cd - it has k3b on it
[01:11] <slappy17> ive been usin nero, lately
[01:11] <Quest-Master> It fails EVERY SINGLE TIME it tries to burn something
[01:11] <tweek> nero isnt that bad
[01:12] <squinn> Well, here's what happened to me.
[01:12] <slappy17> alcohol?
[01:12] <Quest-Master> And my CD Burners on Linux have NEVER failed
[01:12] <pr3vi0uz>  so does Kubuntu
[01:12] <slappy17> ya xcdroast is nice
[01:12] <squinn> I've just burnt my Hoary CD from Gentoo which is obsolete.
[01:12] <slappy17> ahh..gentoo..
[01:12] <slappy17> emerge gentoo
[01:12] <squinn> And I now realize Hoary's kernel is non-compatible with my wireless adapter.
[01:12] <slappy17> can i apt-get install gentoo?
[01:12] <squinn> yep,
[01:12] <justinf> gentoo - wait 3 days for kde to compile... serious wastage of electricity...
[01:12] <slappy17> nice
[01:13] <slappy17> use the -p
[01:13] <squinn> it will install a window manager
[01:13] <slappy17> they have portage and source
[01:13] <transgress> justinf: took me about 6 hours to compile
[01:13] <slappy17> in fact, their dvd has most of the portages on it
[01:13] <transgress> justinf: and just because you don't use it, doesn't mean you have to try to make it seem superior.
[01:13] <justinf> transgress -> i did use it...
[01:13] <chavo> justinf, takes less than a day to build entire KDE.
[01:13] <slappy17> fight! fight!
[01:13] <transgress> did being the keyuword justinf
[01:14] <chavo> I do it and I'm running kubuntu.
[01:14] <transgress> justinf: it's kind of like ex girlfriends... you say a lot more shxt when you aren't with them anymore
[01:14] <tweek> "fight! fight!"
[01:14] <justinf> transgress -> but i thought my cpu had better things to be doing than emerge -compile...
[01:14] <pr3vi0uz>  im just wondering if kubuntu is the sister of ubuntu how come no one talks  in that channel lol
[01:14] <slappy17> lol tweek
[01:14] <slappy17> lets egg them on
[01:14] <tweek> yea
[01:14] <slappy17> HEY!  In openoffice I am abel to shift between SWE and EN (the F7 key or in the menu)
[01:17] <slappy17> HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
[01:17] <slappy17> GENTOO IS FOR RICERS!?!?! LOL
[01:17] <tweek> rapeh4x
[01:17] <slappy17> dood.
[01:17] <slappy17> thats lame
[01:17] <johan2> Gaim don't give me what option?:(
[01:18] <justinf> transgress -> i know. compiled my first kernel in 1998. couldnt be arsed now -i just want to get on with stuff and do some work for my clients.
[01:18] <tweek> NiN-closer
[01:18] <tweek> :}
[01:18] <transgress> i am by no means advocating gentoo over other distro's... however, there is no point in arguing over distros and putting one below another.
[01:18] <slappy17> --usepkg (-k)
[01:19] <slappy17>     Tells emerge to use binary packages (from $PKGDIR) if they are available, thus possibly avoiding some time-consuming compiles.
[01:19] <transgress> i use gentoo, ubuntu, slackware, and freebsd...
[01:19] <slappy17> man emerge
[01:19] <transgress> slappy17: that's true... there are packagecd's...
[01:19] <slappy17> ya, we're trolls...meanwhile this channel is app support
[01:19] <justinf> transgress - i know - i'm a jaded warrior from the red hat versus debian days during the dotcom boom... and lets not mention the gnome versus kde verus fluxbox versus icewm flamewars!
[01:19] <slappy17> nothing troll'ish there
[01:20] <tweek> hehehe@trools
[01:20] <tweek> troll
[01:20] <slappy17> dood..its all icewm
[01:20] <slappy17> no windowmaker?
[01:20] <slappy17> an vi
[01:20] <HrdwrBoB> transgress: there's a lot of point, one needs a way to discern what to install
[01:20] <tweek> babies?!!
[01:20] <slappy17> so why are you guys forking w/ ubuntu?
[01:20] <transgress> HrdwrBoB: huh?
[01:21] <tweek> ubuntu is great i use it in both my machines
[01:21] <HrdwrBoB> you need to rate distros (at least personally) for your purpose in order to decide what you want to run
[01:21] <tweek> (but not hoary) ;)
[01:21] <justinf> you gotta try enlightenment - first tried it back in 99 and i still cant figure it out... serious hackerish window manager though.
[01:21] <transgress> and let's keep in mind... things may take up cpu on gentoo, but things take up a lot more ram on ... iuno... distro's based around the modularized kernel concept...
[01:21] <HrdwrBoB> transgress: do you know what you're talking about?
[01:21] <HrdwrBoB> what on earth do you mean
[01:21] <transgress> distro's are made different to fit different needs... that doesn't make one better or worse
[01:21] <HrdwrBoB> if it's modularised
[01:21] <slappy17> ya it does
[01:21] <HrdwrBoB> it means the modules aren't used, they aren't loaded
[01:22] <justinf> transgress - if my cpu is being used up , i just drop back to icewm/flux etc.. its no big deal.
[01:22] <b2s> transgress: lol, its not THAT much more ram.  barely any at all
[01:22] <slappy17> redhat sucks entierly
[01:22] <slappy17> what good is redhat?
[01:22] <tweek> none?
[01:22] <slappy17> right!
[01:22] <slappy17> and they make me use fedora at work...-=sigh=-
[01:22] <Edgan> slappy17: Red Hat as a company, RHEL, Fedora, or all of the above?
[01:22] <transgress> how is it i get more shit for advocating no distro over another than those who are whoring for a single distro
[01:22] <b2s> slappy17: redhat is perfectly fine.  maybe it just isn't ideal for your particular situation.
[01:22] <slappy17> all of the above
[01:22] <justinf> redhat are totally off my radar screen...
[01:23] <transgress> ima go back to freebsd now... catch you guys later
[01:23] <slappy17> dood...it hasnt been ideal in 4+ years, b2s
[01:23] <tweek> 9.2 blew
[01:23] <slappy17> and yum w/ fedora.. and apt!? what a JOKE!
[01:23] <justinf> freebsd - cool... like their ethos and stuff.. good luck with it!
[01:23] <tweek> i used it for a while
[01:23] <Edgan> slappy17: I have liked Fedora, but they are beginning to do more things that annoy me. I am looking at moving to Ubuntu.
[01:23] <slappy17> its all still broken
[01:23] <b2s> heh, tweek you didn't like redhat 9.2?  me either ;)
[01:23] <slappy17> yep!  i cant yum upgrade without dependency issues
[01:23] <tweek> :|
[01:24] <tweek> whuteva
[01:24] <slappy17> the best release of redhat was 7.1 where up2date had a mem leak..that was my favorite
[01:24] <b2s> slappy17: I've never had any dependancy issues with yum/up2date under rhel
[01:24] <slappy17> what!?
[01:24] <Edgan> slappy17: you might try smart, it is kind of like a hybrid between apt and yum, and can supposedly resolve dependecies across conflicting repos
[01:24] <slappy17> you're joking
[01:24] <slappy17> Edgan: thanks for the tip..ill try
[01:24] <Edgan> slappy17: My favorite was rh8 with the rpm hang issue
[01:24] <justinf> up2date - *shiver* - dont remind me.... pure hell...
[01:24] <slappy17> ahh...good one
[01:25] <slappy17> and everything under 7....when wuftp was default installed! AWESOME!
[01:25] <slappy17> because you all know how secure wuftp is
[01:25] <slappy17> ya, redhat is great
[01:25] <Edgan> slappy17: Others used wuftpd at the time. vsftpd which Red Hat uses now was written in house, I think.
[01:25] <justinf> still - thats not as bad as linspire "everything runs as root"
[01:26] <slappy17> well..linux distros stuck w/ wu...
[01:26] <slappy17> did slackware?
[01:26] <MacIver> -rw-r--r--  1 root root   4522 2005-03-23 19:53 proftpd-1.2.10-i486-2
[01:26] <Edgan> I used Slackware before Red Hat. The lack of good package management is why I moved away from Slackware.
[01:26] <b2s> slappy17: people still use slackware?
[01:27] <Edgan> b2s: hehe, yeah
[01:27] <HrdwrBoB> b2s: masochists mainly
[01:27] <slappy17> ya..they do
[01:27] <b2s> I used that back in '96...
[01:27] <MacIver> dropline ;-)
[01:27] <slappy17> dood!! People who think Gentoo rules because they can't use RPM properly
[01:27] <HrdwrBoB> b2s: same
[01:27] <slappy17> bah
[01:27] <slappy17> that website is full of lies
[01:27] <justinf> btw, installed warty on an old iMac over the weekend... bit slow - but it worked..
[01:27] <tweek> later :}
[01:27] <MacIver> slappy17: eh?
[01:27] <zoldar> can anybody recommend some 2-pane style graphical file manager ? something like midnight commander but in x ...?
[01:27] <slappy17> konq
[01:27] <slappy17> heh
[01:28] <justinf> zoldar - konqie
[01:28] <Edgan> does dpkg have something that is equivlent to rpm -V or rpm -Va?
 that website is full of lies <--what website?
[01:28] <zoldar> i has 2-pane layout ?
[01:28] <zoldar> it
[01:28] <slappy17> gentoo is rice
[01:28] <zoldar> ok thanks
[01:29] <Edgan> gentoo is fine as long as you are willing to wait for the compiling to finish
[01:29] <eaon> slappy17: it's a /joke/
[01:29] <slappy17> edgan...dood..-k
[01:29] <b2s> Edgan: the problem I have with gentoo isn't the compile times (well, the main problem) its that things break during upgrades
[01:29] <Edgan> slappy17: dpkg -k packagename?
[01:30] <slappy17> emerge -k package
[01:30] <MacIver> "I essentially started using Gentoo because my ....ing KDE clock would never show the right time in Red Hat."
[01:30] <Edgan> b2s: Isn't that true with upgrades of anything other than maybe debian stable?
[01:30] <justinf> edgan - i installed gentoo (full source compile) on a 400 mhz desktop over 3 days - and i swear to god, Ubuntu, or rather Kubuntu ran faster... now, if i was a kernel hacker , i could have made Gentoo run faster, but i'm not. it's all a bit of hype in my view.
[01:30] <r4nd0m1di0t> working out of the box is uncommon 4 gentoo
[01:30] <Edgan> justinf: hehe
[01:31] <b2s> Edgan: no.  the majority of my systems use rhel, and they don't break at all during upgrades.  of course, most of the packages are custom, but thankfully rpms are trivial to patch and rebuild
[01:31] <b2s> hopefully ubuntu will be as good about upgrades and rhel, and I'll switch to that.
[01:31] <r4nd0m1di0t> yeah u have to use the right flags
[01:32] <Edgan> b2s: yeah, I looked into ubuntu as a server. It seems to have as many packages in main as rhel.
[01:32] <b2s> er "as rhel, and I'll switch to this"
[01:32] <justinf> this might seem like  a weird question, but in the real world ,are you people noticing more and more folks using Linux? I'm certainly noticing it.. and i dont think its being picked up in those "surveys" of usage that we see all the time...
[01:32] <b2s> Edgan: I don't think it has as many packages as main... rhel is like 4 CDs, not 1.
[01:33] <Edgan> b2s: main isn't everything on the cd
[01:33] <Edgan> b2s: just the default install
[01:33] <b2s> Edgan: ah, how big is main then?
[01:33] <Edgan> b2s: like 1300 packages
[01:33] <Edgan> b2s: where as rhel is like 1400-1500
[01:34] <b2s> hmm.  I kept finding myself having to add universe for lots of packages... though this happens to be on my desktop.  I don't know how it will be on servers.
[01:34] <johan2> LinuxJones: It is not only me how have this problem:( http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7891.html
[01:34] <Edgan> b2s: yeah, but I found myself adding lots of packages from repos under redhat
[01:34] <Edgan> b2s: ubuntu has postfix, apache2, php, dovecot, cyrus-imapd, etc in main
[01:35] <Edgan> b2s: packages.ubuntu.com
[01:35] <r4nd0m1di0t> red hat ... dunno why, but it makes me think of a rubber
[01:35] <b2s> Edgan: the only packages I added under rhel were courier-mta and pure-ftpd, both of which are in universe on ubuntu
[01:36] <LinuxJones> johan2, that sucks I am sure it will be fixed asap :)
[01:36] <Edgan> b2s: what other services do you use in redhat? That you would want in ubuntu main?
[01:36] <verden01> Hi
[01:37] <b2s> Edgan: I just installed my laptop with ubuntu about 3 days ago, so I haven't had much time to really plan out that sort of thing.
[01:38] <Edgan> b2s: I installed it in my laptop the other day. It is nice. It didn't go so well on a junk desktop I tried it on.
[01:40] <johan2> LinuxJones: Yes it is importent for me to have.  I can't spell so good in English:(
[01:40] <johan2> LinuxJones: Thank you anyway.. I will ask everybody hera ones:-P
[01:42] <dts> how can i install esddsp?
[01:43] <nickrud> dts it's in esound-clients
[01:43] <nickrud> or somthing like that :)
[01:43] <transgress> anyone use checkinstall with ubuntu?
[01:43] <cnez0red> arg! Why do I get all these system freezes? It never used to happen with mandrake.
[01:44] <SQL_Sam> does mozilla come with flash player installed?
[01:45] <Tuxicity> SQL_Sam, follow instructions on ubuntuguide.org
[01:45] <mjr> SQL_Sam, no, due to restrictions placed by macromedia; see above
[01:45] <SQL_Sam> sweet!
[01:45] <SQL_Sam> I did install it then!
[01:45] <SQL_Sam> yipee i did something right!!!
[01:46] <SQL_Sam> i was trying to install if for konqueror though....
[01:46] <CB201> 'lo
[01:46] <johan2> Everybody!!  I have a problem and  the same problem are in the forum not solved. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-7891.html
[01:47] <transgress> anyone know of another program that would work like checkinstall?
[01:47] <dts> nickrud, ok let me try that
[01:47] <dts> yep works
[01:47] <CB201> I get the following error when I try to run a program: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: no such file or directory
[01:47] <johan2> Some heroes in here?:'(
[01:47] <SQL_Sam> does konqueror have a flash player?
[01:47] <nickrud> SQL_Sam, you can try the flashplayer-mozilla in multiverse
[01:48] <slappy17> im a hero
[01:48] <nickrud> It's always worked for me, but I have heard of people it doesn't work for
[01:48] <johan2> slappy17: sounds good:)
[01:50] <transgress> herm i may put x86 on this box instead of amd64... missing so many packages bleh
[01:51] <dts> dennis@dennis01:~/python/test$ esddsp -m skype
[01:51] <dts> /dev/dsp-1: No such file or directory
[01:51] <dts> /dev/dsp-1: Connection refused
[01:51] <djm62> autochthon!
[01:51] <dts> ?
[01:51] <CB201> I get the following error when I try to run a program: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: no such file or directory
[01:51] <CB201> can anyone help?
[01:52] <CB201> I don't know where I can instlal that lib file from
[01:52] <Pluk> trying to install maya?
[01:52] <CB201> me? no...
[01:52] <dts> CB201, can you run synaptic?
[01:52] <CB201> dts, yes...it's not there
[01:52] <dts> synaptic?
[01:52] <slappy17> johan2: sorry, i dont know about that aspell-no
[01:52] <SQL_Sam> i cant seem to connect to irc.mozilla.org? anyone else have problems?
[01:52] <slappy17> its not in any gaim doc?
[01:52] <mjr> CB201, I once ran into that, and did a really ugly thing that worked for me but that you really shouldn't do
[01:53] <CB201> dts, at least, it's not in synaptic under that name
[01:53] <mjr> namely, created the following symlink in /usr/lib:
[01:53] <mjr> libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 -> libstdc++.so.6
[01:53] <dts> CB201, did you try installing the libs with aptget
[01:53] <dts> apt-get
[01:53] <Pluk> maybe symlink libstdc++-lib6.2.2.so.3 to libstdc++6.so.x in /usr/lib
[01:53] <Pluk> doh too late
[01:54] <CB201> dts, yes...that file is definitely not in any repositories. see for yourself.
[01:54] <cnez0red> hey gl graphics keep screwing up my system. Anyone else have that problem?
[01:54] <CB201> mjr, that sounds a bit dangerous
[01:54] <Tuxicity> CB201, did you compile this prog yourself?
[01:54] <mjr> CB201, good ;)
[01:55] <LinuxJones> johan2, Good Luck :)
[01:55] <slappy17> does it invoke aspell directly?
[01:55] <slappy17> can you just symlink aspell to aspell-no?
[01:55] <CB201> Tuxicity, all I did was untar it
[01:55] <slappy17> that sounds really lame typing it out
[01:55] <nickrud> heh
[01:56] <Tuxicity> CB201, which prog is it?
[01:56] <XandriX> hi slappy17
[01:56] <johan2> slappy17:It's ok checking in the gaim doc now:-/
[01:56] <nickrud> johan2, maybe the gaim site has a work around
[01:56] <ShadowRage> does warty have any known issues with a dell optiplex GX1?
[01:57] <CB201> Tuxicity...it's a game called N
[01:57] <CB201> http://www.harveycartel.org/metanet/n.html
[01:57] <ShadowRage> does warty have any known issues with a dell optiplex GX1?
[01:57] <transgress> is there an ubuntu package for ndiswrapper?
[01:57] <slappy17> hi Xandri
[01:57] <ShadowRage> it cant detect a cdrom on bootup
[01:58] <ShadowRage> EVEN THOUGH that's the medium it's using
[01:59] <ShadowRage> dell optiplex GX1 with 96 mb of ram
[01:59] <johan2>  slappy17: Im a linux newbe. What is symlink aspell to aspell-no?
[01:59] <Juhaz> transgress, ndiswrapper-utils, the kernel module is in the base ubuntu kernel
[01:59] <ShadowRage> anyone know?
[01:59] <slappy17> ah, its basicly a "symbolic/soft" link that points to another file
[01:59] <slappy17> its a file that points to another file
[01:59] <slappy17> through the file system
[02:00] <slappy17> there are also hard links that point to the file but in a different manner, you could say that it is even the same file with a different name
[02:00] <johan2> nickrud: Im cheking now..
[02:00] <slappy17> hardlinks are restricted to filesystems but symlinks dont care..
[02:01] <nickrud> johan2, see if they have any kind of bugzilla or other buglist
[02:01] <slappy17> well, how does gaim invoke aspell
[02:02] <ShadowRage> dell optiplex GX1 with 96 mb of ram
[02:02] <ShadowRage> does warty have any known issues with a dell optiplex GX1?
[02:02] <nickrud> I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure it's separate from gnome's, or at least was
[02:02] <slappy17> strace ?
[02:02] <slappy17> ldd gaim?
[02:02] <johan2> slappy17:sorry I can't follow you
[02:02] <nickrud> not that interested :)
[02:03] <slappy17> lol
[02:03] <slappy17>         libaspell.so.15 => /usr/lib/libaspell.so.15 (0x04931000)
[02:03] <slappy17> ldd from gaim
[02:03] <Rima> if your running kernel 2.6.x and need to compile a module for 2.4.18 - is it possible to do this without having a running kernel of 2.4.18?
[02:03] <transgress> okay how do i use that ndiswrapper-utils... i can't find that in a search with synaptic... don't have a program for it...
[02:04] <nickrud> besides, I stopped programming before I knew anything  of unix execpt that the phone lines ran on it
[02:04] <nickrud> don't think that way :)
[02:04] <slappy17> im a crappy hero
[02:04] <slappy17> ;)
[02:05] <transgress> could it be i don't have ndiswrapper because i'm on amd64 ubuntu?
[02:05] <Tuxicity> Rima, I suppose you'd need the the 2.4 kernel headers though (just a guess)
[02:05] <b2s> transgress: I'm on amd64 using ndiswrapper...
[02:05] <b2s> transgress: I didn't use the packages from apt-get though, because they didn't work for me.
[02:05] <kakalto> how can I convert ogg to mp3?
[02:06] <b2s> transgress: I downloaded the tar.gz from the main webpage, and compiled it myself (make deb)
[02:06] <Rima> Tuxicity, hmm I have done it before just can't remember how I did it - and opting for the quickest way possible lol
[02:06] <kakalto> anyone?
[02:06] <transgress> b2s:  thanks for the tip
[02:06] <transgress> b2s:  what card are you using  by chance
[02:06] <a2t3> kakalto: convert to wav and next convert to ogg, stupid method ;)
[02:06] <kakalto> no
[02:06] <kakalto> ogg ----> mp3
[02:06] <nickrud> kakalto, yeah, I've seen a package for it somewhere
[02:06] <kakalto> or ogg -----> wma, if that's easier
[02:07] <Tuxicity> kakalto, for your portable player, right?
[02:07] <kakalto> yup
[02:07] <nickrud> was thinking about going mp3 --> ogg
[02:07] <kakalto> ya
[02:07] <a2t3> kakalto: convert to wav, next to mp3
[02:07] <mjt> whatever ---> whatever -- it's always whatever --> wav --> whatever
[02:07] <b2s> transgress: I'm using a broadcom wifi-g adapter
[02:07] <kakalto> ah
[02:08] <transgress> b2s:  you wouldn't have a 64bit driver i could gank from you would you?
[02:08] <mjt> just don't forget that converting one lossy format to another means the quality is lost more and more on each conversion
[02:08] <kakalto> so, how do I convert ogg to wav?
[02:08] <mjt> oggdec
[02:08] <b2s> transgress: its available for download somewhere on the web... let me go look
[02:08] <johan2> slappy17: thank you for the time anyway. You couldn't solve the problem or?
[02:08] <CB201> ls -l libstdc
[02:09] <Tuxicity> kakalto, probably Audacity can do such convertions
[02:09] <transgress> hehe some guy is on the help channel for work and asking us why he can't access our site... he seems to have gotten his IP blacklisted for something
[02:09] <dts> has anyone gotten esddsp towork?
[02:09] <a2t3> kakalto: use sox
[02:09] <johan2> slappy17: I could not follow you are totaly new to linux
[02:10] <kakalto> a2t3, whenever I try sox, it goes to a prompt
[02:10] <kakalto> and I don't know what to do
[02:10] <hypno> kakalto or ogg123 file.ogg | lame - file.mp3
[02:10] <a2t3> kakalto: rtfm ;)
[02:10] <johan2> johan2: must go and drink a coffe:-P
[02:10] <kakalto> a2t3, the man is always too hard to understand
[02:10] <kakalto> hypno, thanks
[02:11] <kakalto> it never works!
[02:11] <b2s> transgress:  http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/drivers.php
[02:11] <MasterChief_113> um hi
[02:11] <kakalto> it always just goes to a new line with ">"
[02:11] <hypno> kakalto that's not quite right
[02:12] <kakalto> is there just a GUI app for encoding/decoding?
[02:12] <kakalto> audacity?
[02:12] <kakalto> does that work?
[02:12] <Tuxicity> kakalto, Audacity is an audio editor. It should do that and more I guess
[02:12] <Huey> does anyone know why debian and ubuntu use inetd over xinetd?
[02:12] <Huey> what advantages does it have?
[02:12] <kakalto> Tuxicity, thanks
[02:12] <Huey> or is there some long mailing list i should be reading through?
[02:13] <lukewarm> Huey, it's easier to spell
[02:13] <b2s> transgress: also, when you get the ndiswrapper tarball, you'll need to edit the control files in the debian directory to change the arch from i386 to amd64
[02:13] <hypno> kakalto this works: ogg123 file.ogg -d au -f - | lame - file.mp3
[02:14] <nickrud> huey, try the debian bug list for inetd, you'll probably find a long thread, anyway
[02:14] <GammaRay> hypno: that's pretty lame :-P
[02:15] <hypno> i get it
[02:15] <hypno> ;p
[02:16] <martin> I need help with ATI drivers
[02:16] <martin> Have unusual problem
[02:16] <MasterChief_113> i just downloaded the debian linux cd 1 at my college to day and extracted the files with an iso program then painstakingly transfered all the files to my apple laptop, then to my home pc... then i burned all the files to a new cd-wr, i put it in an older computer, and type e:\install\boot.bat but it says Syantax error, then it goes thru all the kernals, and says bad direcrtory or file blah blah blah... any idea sorry for ho
[02:17] <HrdwrBoB> MasterChief_113: troll
[02:17] <transgress> umm umm umm umm... does ubuntu not install gcc?
[02:17] <MasterChief_113> huh/
[02:17] <hypno> transgress install build-essential
[02:17] <MasterChief_113> ?*
[02:18] <Tuxicity> MasterChief_113, perhaps #debian would be more appropriate?
[02:18] <kakalto> hypno, that command doesn't work
[02:18] <MasterChief_113> u mean the version?
[02:18] <kakalto> hypno, you know why
[02:18] <kakalto> ?
[02:18] <Tuxicity> transgress, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:18] <kakalto> I don't have lame installed
[02:18] <transgress> ubuntu freaks me out heh
[02:19] <transgress> linux w/o gcc..
[02:19] <zhukov_> hello
[02:19] <zhukov_> can anyone please explain me why i get permission denied whe i run this:
[02:19] <zhukov_> sudo splash -s -f /etc/bootsplash/themes/current/config/bootsplash-1024x768.cfg >> initrd.img-2.x.x
[02:19] <resiak> transgress: In other words, like just about every Debian-derived distro?
[02:19] <martin> ----------Is there anyone that has ati mobility 9600 that has it working under ubuntu??
[02:20] <MasterChief_113> hmmm
[02:20] <transgress> resiak: this is the only debian derived distro i've used... used debian for a while, but got tired of slow updates...
[02:20] <a2t3> martin: DRI do not work with this card, check ATI drivers
[02:20] <transgress> hey b2s: did you have to do anything special to install ndiswrapper from source on 64bit?
[02:21] <zhukov_> anyone...
[02:21] <a2t3> martin: if you want 3D support, 2D should work
[02:21] <nickrud> MasterChief_113, if what you said is true, you are total screwed, I think. It's so outrageous, it sounds unbelievable
[02:21] <ShadowRage> how do I redo the ubuntu setup?
[02:21] <MasterChief_113> lol
[02:21] <Juhaz> zhukov_, because sudo only runs "splash"
[02:21] <ShadowRage> what command was it?
[02:21] <Juhaz> zhukov_, redirection is done with user permissions
[02:21] <martin> a2t3: DRI? I have installed latest ATI 8.12.10 drivers, get 2D and 3D, but 3D is "laggy"
[02:21] <kakalto> what's the command to convert wav to mp3?
[02:22] <kakalto> wav2mp3 <file> <file> ?
[02:22] <hypno> lame file.wav file.mp3
[02:22] <zhukov_> so how can i solve it?
[02:22] <a2t3> martin: dri.sf.net  but it works only with old ati cards
[02:22] <resiak> transgress: Debian itself is exactly the same wrt build-essential
[02:22] <kakalto> hypno, thanks
[02:22] <Juhaz> try sudo sh -c "splash -s -f /etc/bootsplash/themes/current/config/bootsplash-1024x768.cfg >> initrd.img-2.x.x"
[02:23] <transgress> bleh... ndiswrapper is giving me all kinds of hell
[02:23] <Juhaz> windows driver special hell, now available for linux users!
[02:24] <a2t3> ;)
[02:24] <transgress> heh i haven't gotten to the driver part of it yet
[02:24] <transgress> i'm growing increasingly tempted to just install 32bit ubuntu on to here
[02:25] <nickrud> kakalto, there's a script on http://home.wanadoo.nl/cchq/conmen/conmen.html . Maybe you could take a look at that for some ideas
[02:26] <b2s> transgress: heh. not for me. I got amd64 working, and I'm keeping it that way
[02:27] <transgress> b2s: what did you do to get ndiswrapper to compile?  it tells me that amd64 is not a build option
[02:28] <b2s> transgress: that's that last bit I said...
[02:28] <b2s> transgress: also, when you get the ndiswrapper tarball, you'll need to edit the control files in the debian directory to change the arch from i386 to amd64
[02:29] <b2s> they are control, control.modules, control.source, control.utils
[02:30] <zhukov_> thats it, ive enough of bootsplash!Theres no way i can get this working in ubuntu
[02:30] <zhukov_> thanks Juhaz
[02:30] <transgress> b2s:  awesome.  thanks.
[02:31] <b2s> transgress: let me know if you have any problems, since I'm going to be repeating this a few more times for some friends who have similar hardware
[02:31] <Tuxicity> b2s, that would be a good thing to add to the wiki, no?
[02:31] <transgress> what do i apt-get for my kernel headers?  apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` ?
[02:32] <b2s> Tuxicity: maybe.  I don't know anything about the wiki :)
[02:32] <transgress> heh well once i get this done i'll write one up for wiki then
[02:32] <b2s> actually, I wonder why ndiswrapper-1.1 isn't available standard.  aside from having to compile it and adjust the arch, it seemed to work quite easily.
[02:33] <b2s> transgress: if you don't have kernel headers, you might need to get those too
[02:33] <OddChild> i am about to finish my 4 day download to get off XP on to linux... be glad when it is running
[02:33] <Tuxicity> transgress, good attitude :)
[02:33] <transgress> b2s: heh that's what i was asking... what's the command to get those... like apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` ?
[02:34] <b2s> transgress: looks plausible
[02:35] <gpled> what is a good command line mp3 player, that i can apt-get?
[02:36] <Juhaz> mpg321
[02:36] <scott> anyone else have problems with links in evolution not opening in firefox? I click the links and right click open in browser and they don't open
[02:36] <b2s> speaking of kernel headers, does anyone know why package linux-headers-2.6.10-5-amd64-k8 provides version "2.6.10-34" (instead of -5)
[02:37] <gpled> etz: Package mpg321 has no installation candidate :(
[02:38] <transgress> scott: change the default browser in the gnome controls?
[02:38] <Tuxicity> scott, maybe you need an ijnstance of Firefox already running, justa guess
[02:38] <Juhaz> doh, looks like it's in universe
[02:38] <transgress> scott: if so did you put firefox %s? or just firefox
[02:38] <nickrud> system->preferences->preferred applications
[02:38] <gpled> Juhaz: how do i set universe?
[02:38] <gpled> :)
[02:39] <DoppelGanger> scott: you call tht a problem
[02:39] <DoppelGanger> go back to windows
[02:39] <transgress> wow i got ndiswrapper built... thanks b2s... i'll write that wiki and give you loads of credit
[02:39] <transgress> hey b2s... do i only do make deb?  or make deb install or what?
[02:40] <gpled> i have sound, but xmms cant see it :(
[02:40] <Juhaz> gpled, add it from synaptic->settings->repositories or modify sources.list by hand
[02:40] <transgress> ah i got it
[02:41] <Juhaz> gpled, and you might want to read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats for rest of things that are left out from base repositories because of legal reasons
[02:41] <XTC> zup people.... :)
[02:42] <gpled> Juhaz: thanks for the tips
[02:43] <transgress> okay driver installed... now to see if it works
[02:44] <XTCboarder> dude.... where did the startterscript go?
[02:45] <XTCboarder> anybody know?, it's a 404 from the ubuntuforums' site.....
[02:45] <transgress> okay i can't modprobe ndiswrapper now that i have it installed
[02:46] <transgress> b2s:  did you have any problems with it after you got it installed?  i installed it, chose the .inf, and tried to modprobe... did i forget something?
[02:46] <DoppelGanger> ah dependency
[02:46] <transgress> ah i found out why
[02:46] <transgress> it says i have an invalid driver
[02:46] <DoppelGanger> another sign of being unable to fuckinggoogleit.com
[02:47] <transgress> grr... it's not a .inf... it's the .sys... should that matter?
[02:48] <XTCboarder> does anybody have the starter script for hoary 5.04? the one that a guy posted at ubuntuforums?
[02:49] <goldfish> nope
[02:49] <transgress> does anyone know how i could pull the freaking files from the hp .exe?  w/o wine...
[02:49] <XTCboarder> :(
[02:49] <b2s> transgress: you need both I think...
[02:49] <GammaRay> starter script?
[02:49] <GammaRay> transgress: tru unzip
[02:49] <GammaRay> transgress: try unzip
[02:49] <b2s> what driver are you using?  not broadcom wifi-g?
[02:49] <goldfish> XTCboarder: he has a link to it on that post
[02:50] <XTCboarder> GammaRay,  a script that installs useful stuff
[02:50] <XTCboarder> goldfish, the link is broken now :(
[02:50] <slappy17> unzip works on exe?
[02:50] <goldfish> ah right
[02:50] <b2s> slappy17: if the exe is a zip self extractor
[02:50] <goldfish> you could install them yourself :)
[02:50] <XTCboarder> 20:45:18 ERROR 404: Not Found << :(
[02:50] <transgress> b2s:  i have an hp that has an integrated broadcom...
[02:50] <slappy17> ahh
[02:50] <Tuxicity> XTCboarder, is that the same as MrBass.org Quick Install Script?
[02:50] <b2s> transgress: the generic broadcom didn't work for you?
[02:50] <GammaRay> slappy17: depends.. a lot of exes are really self extracting zips
[02:50] <XTCboarder> let's see.....
[02:51] <transgress> okay so these two differently named drivers go together?
[02:51] <transgress> maybe that was my prob
[02:52] <XTCboarder> it's not :(
[02:52] <transgress> b2s:  ah nice now it has driver present and hardware present on ndiswrapper -l
[02:52] <transgress> and modprobe worked
[02:52] <transgress> woohoo
[02:52] <b2s> transgress: cool
[02:53] <transgress> what's a good aptable prog to see if i can look for networks with it?
[02:53] <XTCboarder> Tuxicity, have you tried that script?
[02:53] <Tuxicity> XTCboarder, sorry no, I did all manually
[02:54] <XTCboarder> 'k.....
[02:54] <transgress> guess i'll go with kismet
[02:55] <transgress> ah nice as far as i can tell it is working
[02:55] <transgress> but i live in the boonies where there are no wifi connections... and i don't use wireless
[02:55] <transgress> so i guess i'll find out later
[02:56] <comfrey> anyone know the best card to work with kismet?
[02:57] <b2s> transgress: if you can see it under System -> Admin -> Networking, then it is perfect
[02:57] <comfrey> i would prefer something with g support
[02:57] <comfrey> but i suppose i could just go with a prism2 or so...
[02:57] <xfSx> hey guys, just noticed that samba file sharing doesn't seem to work.. if i /etc/init.d/samba restart i get a restart [fail] , i've looked at smb.conf.. how come the default doesn't work?
[02:58] <transgress> b2s:  i see it
[02:59] <SeamusLP> xfSx:  Have you tried /etc/init.d/samba start ?
[02:59] <monkey89> what's the proper way to add birthdays and anniversaries to evolution?
[02:59] <xfSx> [fail] s
[03:00] <|QuaD-> anyone here use jabber?
[03:00] <transgress> |QuaD-: i do
[03:00] <SeamusLP> xfSx:  I don't know what's going on.  I'm running hoary and the default samba is fine.
[03:00] <|QuaD-> transgress: do you know a lot about the different gtk clients?
[03:01] <transgress> |QuaD-: that i don't really like them... best one i've found is probably psi... but gaim is okay if you don't want to use encryption, and gabber was probably my favorite after psi
[03:01] <transgress> |QuaD-: but gabber hasn't been updated in ages
[03:01] <|QuaD-> transgress: everyone talks about psi, i hate qt though
[03:01] <xfSx> well i can browse and read off the network, but my share's aren't showing up.. i've reinstalled samba through synaptic and still nothing.. some of the forums talk about smbpasswd to get it working.. i'm bamboozled
[03:01] <abarbaccia> im missing a codec to playback AVI files-  anybody know the package name?
[03:02] <transgress> |QuaD-: well umm... get over it?
[03:02] <|QuaD-> transgress: you try gossip or gush?
[03:02] <xfSx> abarbaccia, tried vlc?
[03:02] <b2s> |QuaD-: I just use gaim to connect to jabber
[03:02] <transgress> |QuaD-: nope... after going through and finally landing on psi i have stuck with it
[03:02] <transgress> i like to be able to use encryption with jabber outside of gaim encryption
[03:02] <SeamusLP> abarbaccia:  I'd use vlc or totem-xine for that.  totem-gstreamer probably won't cut it.
[03:02] <transgress> b2s: can i have your jabberID?
[03:02] <|QuaD-> transgress: hmmmm
[03:03] <|QuaD-> transgress: you don't want my jabber id???? how rude!
[03:03] <|QuaD-> :)
[03:03] <b2s> heh
[03:03] <abarbaccia> thanks all - i appreciate it - vlc did the trick!
[03:03] <SeamusLP> xfSx:  I wish I could help, don't really know much about samba though
[03:03] <|QuaD-> do you knoww of any with gui frontend and cli frontend?
[03:03] <transgress> |QuaD-: are you on jabber just yet?
[03:04] <SirFunk> blah, i can't wait for mono/beagle on amd64!
[03:04] <nekohayo> um, anyone having problems with dead keys in openoffice2?
[03:04] <|QuaD-> transgress: not really :)
[03:04] <|QuaD-> transgress: i was kidding
[03:04] <nekohayo> it just started recently without apparent reason
[03:04] <xfSx> ok that's cool i know the answer's out there in the forums somewhere ;0
[03:04] <spiderworm> how would i tell synaptic to ignore broken packages for now?
[03:04] <transgress> |QuaD-: i have foresight hehe... but you can have mine... it's<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:04] <XandriX> jdub is not there isint he
[03:04] <XTCboarder> how do i restart network interfaces?
[03:04] <|QuaD-> transgress: i don't have jabber yet, when i do, you will be my first jabber friend
[03:05] <|QuaD-> transgress: do you use the aim transport?
[03:05] <sladen> XTCboarder: sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth0
[03:05] <XandriX> XTCboarder, ifconfig interfacename stop ifconfig interfacename start
[03:05] <xfSx> does anyone know where i can get those cool widgets that show you disk / mem / cpu / net usage on your desktop?
[03:05] <transgress> |QuaD-: nope... i have aim running on my other box that i let people leave me messages on and i check every 5 or 6 days
[03:05] <|QuaD-> transgress: lol
[03:05] <nekohayo> xfSx, gkrellm or gdesklets
[03:05] <|QuaD-> i want to know if they support file transfer
[03:05] <nekohayo> or superkarama for kde
[03:05] <xfSx> nekohayo, thanks
[03:05] <transgress> i hate aim
[03:06] <nekohayo> no one having dead dead keys?
[03:06] <transgress> i do use the msn transport though because my sister uses msn
[03:06] <nekohayo> :P
[03:06] <SeamusLP> XTCboarder:  /etc/init.d/ifupdown restart  just to be different ;)
[03:06] <XTCboarder> thx
[03:06] <|QuaD-> transgress: does it support file transfer?
[03:06] <transgress> |QuaD-: the msn transport does support send files most of the time
[03:06] <transgress> it's quarky but it usually works
[03:06] <|QuaD-> transgress: what bout recieve?
[03:07] <transgress> yeah
[03:07] <nekohayo> gaim improved a lot lately
[03:07] <|QuaD-> transgress: and it supports things like buddyicons, etc?
[03:07] <nekohayo> yes
[03:07] <transgress> yeah gaim has direct connect, but it's bugged if you are behind a router
[03:08] <transgress> |QuaD-: psi and gabber don't... gaim does
[03:08] <|QuaD-> transgress: ok
[03:08] <transgress> people... are... retarded...
[03:09] <transgress> i ask this guy for his domains so i can update his dns on our webservers at work... all he says is "sure" and doesn't give me his domains
[03:09] <|QuaD-> transgress: lol
[03:10] <xfSx> what's the easiest way to automatically dial in my speedtouch usb modem on boot (need to call it from an rc after hotplug?)
[03:10] <Edgan> squirrelmail should be in main :\
[03:11] <xfSx> thank you pleesh
[03:15] <XTCboarder> what's the name of this app used to test opengl suport?
[03:15] <XTCboarder> glx....?
[03:15] <jp> guys I think libgnome-cil is broken 'cause I can't install it. I have main and universe, before ?ve installed it, now I can't ... any ideas?
[03:15] <xfSx> gears
[03:15] <XTCboarder> thx
[03:16] <xfSx> np
[03:16] <Edgan> xfSx: glxinfo is also useful
[03:16] <xfSx> i get 8000
[03:16] <xfSx> hehe
[03:16] <XTCboarder> !!
[03:16] <XTCboarder> i got 130 :(
[03:16] <XandriX> night all
[03:17] <XTCboarder> nite
[03:17] <jp>  libgnome-cil: depends of: libgda2-1 (>= 1.1.99) but it's not installable
[03:17] <jp> :(
[03:17] <xfSx> installed nvidia driver (if u got 1)
[03:17] <xfSx> nn
[03:17] <jp> that package is broken :/
[03:17] <XTCboarder> i'm onto that right now....
[03:17] <XTCboarder> i just installed this box from scratch
[03:17] <xfSx> coll synaptic's the trick
[03:17] <XTCboarder> i'm configuring
[03:17] <XTCboarder> yeah
[03:17] <xfSx> ;)
[03:17] <xfSx> do u know what's the easiest way to automatically dial in my speedtouch usb modem on boot (need to call it from an rc after hotplug?)
[03:17] <XTCboarder> but i wanna have all the packages and all configs set before reboot
[03:18] <nekohayo> dead keys with openoffice2, anyone ^^?
[03:18] <cnez0red> Hey I just installed fluxbox and fluxconf using apt-get. If I press ctrl+alt+backspace, will the login screen now have the option to use fluxbox?
[03:18] <nakata> isn't that already on the forums?
[03:18] <nakata> (speedtouch usb on-boot)
[03:18] <nekohayo> cnez0red, why don't you give it a try?
[03:18] <XTCboarder> i dunno
[03:18] <xfSx> nakata, lemme check
[03:19] <nakata> ouais: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26017
[03:19] <cnez0red> nekohayo because it means losing my my current desktop session - unnecessarily if that's the case.
[03:19] <nekohayo> it's THAT important? XD
[03:20] <nekohayo> sorry I don't know
[03:20] <nekohayo> it did for XFCE though
[03:20] <holycow> good captive ntfs information --> http://blog.badri.us/badriram/archive/2005/01/05/155.aspx
[03:21] <cnez0red> should brb
[03:28] <transgress> install build-essentials would include a c++ compiler as well right?
[03:28] <ShadowRage> how do I redo the ubuntu setup?
[03:28] <transgress> well i do have it installed... but psi is being dumb and can't find it
[03:29] <transgress> ShadowRage: with the install cd?
[03:29] <ShadowRage> no
[03:29] <ShadowRage> the program on disk
[03:29] <mjc_> anyone have any luck with mythtv on amd64? client segfaults for me
[03:29] <ShadowRage> also, why is ubuntu having issues detecting the cdrom on that comp?
[03:30] <housetier> transgress whats the error message from psi?
[03:30] <GammaRay> ShadowRage: you can reconfigure packages w/ dpkg-reconfigure <package>
[03:30] <ShadowRage> it's an optiplex GX1 with an i440 chipset
[03:30] <ShadowRage> GammaRay: like.. when you first run ubuntu after installing from CD, that thing.
[03:31] <transgress> housetier: i found it... it needed qt-mt-dev or whatever instead of qt-dev
[03:32] <GammaRay> ShadowRage: hoary?
[03:32] <transgress> housetier: wouldn't know where to get QCA 1.0 would you?
[03:32] <ShadowRage> GammaRay: warty
[03:33] <ShadowRage> *is waiting for hoary from the shipit thing*
[03:33] <XTCboarder> what's the diference between haory and warty?
[03:33] <SeamusLP> ShadowRage:  Why not grab a hoary torrent?
[03:34] <ShadowRage> 56k.
[03:34] <rempresent> anyone want to help a brother install his ati card?
[03:34] <GammaRay> XTCboarder: updated packages like gnome 2.10. a gui for security updates
[03:34] <XTCboarder> ;D
[03:35] <housetier> transgress libqca1 - Qt Cryptographic Architecture - shared library
[03:35] <CitizenKane> does anyone know how to execute a .run file?
[03:35] <housetier> transgress also "apt-cache search qca" will show some other results that might be of interest as well
[03:35] <ewhitten> CitizenKane: well you... um nevermind. :)
[03:35] <GammaRay> XTCboarder: I doubt that's all :-P
[03:35] <rempresent> no one?
[03:35] <rempresent> anyone know about ati cards?
[03:36] <ewhitten> CitzenKane: first make sure it's executable (chmod +x filename)
[03:36] <XTCboarder> :p
[03:36] <ewhitten> rempresent:  I have a x800 pro installed.  what's up?
[03:36] <CitizenKane> ewhitten, ok
[03:36] <rempresent> ewhitten:  i have the same one, a radeon 9800pro
[03:36] <XTCboarder> em.. what's "webmedia" for?
[03:36] <ewhitten> CitizenKane:  from the directory the .run file is in, try doing:  sh ./filename
[03:36] <transgress> housetier: i get nothing with those searches
[03:37] <ewhitten> rempresent:  so you need help getting it setup?
[03:37] <rempresent> ewhitten:  i was just wondering what you did... i haven't updated ubuntu, i am still on the basic hoary installation... so i am ready to go with the installation
[03:37] <xfSx> xtc, what fps you getting now?
[03:37] <rempresent> ewhitten:  yeah, i would like some help, i want to get cedega running and WoW later on tonight
[03:38] <housetier> transgress maybe you need to erm... "activate" more repositories, universe or so
[03:38] <ewhitten> rempresent:  I made sure I installed the linux-restricted-modules package for my kernel version, then grabbed the fglrx-control and xorg-driver-fglrx file
[03:38] <ewhitten> rempresent:  cool, I was doing the same thing on my laptop before I canceled WoW :)
[03:38] <rempresent> ewhitten:  slow down...
[03:38] <rempresent> ewhitten:  what should i go do first, and then i will go do that... do i need to enable universal repostitories
[03:38] <rempresent> ?
[03:38] <XTCboarder> xfSx i haven't rebooted
[03:38] <XTCboarder> i'm installing stuff....
[03:39] <rempresent> ewhitten:  is cedega good, worth the coin?
[03:39] <XTCboarder> i haven't even setup the video card on xorg.conf
[03:39] <bretzel> Q: Why running kde session, the fonts are all bigger than all others window managers ?
[03:39] <mjc_> rempresent, if you have a video card that doesn't suck, yes.
[03:39] <transgress> okay i uncomment the universe line and it tells me it can't load that repo because it doesn't exist
[03:39] <ewhitten> rempresent:  I'm not sure what repository the fglrx packages are in... I have universe/multiverse both enabled
[03:39] <mjc_> rempresent, ati's linux drivers perform miserably
[03:40] <ewhitten> rempresent:  ymmv with ati.
[03:40] <transgress> i get pretty much the same thing for any repo i ad
[03:40] <CitizenKane> ewhitten, it appears to be working thanks
[03:40] <ewhitten> mjc_:  exactly.
[03:40] <ewhitten> CitizenKane: glad to hear it.
[03:40] <rempresent> yeah, i got a 9800pro w/ 256mb of memory on the card... so i think that i will be fine
[03:40] <rempresent> ymmv?
[03:40] <ewhitten> mjc_:  I wish I had an nvidia again.. switched to x800pro for hl2 in windows
[03:40] <mjc_> rempresent, mine doesn't work very well
[03:40] <ewhitten> your mileage may vary
[03:40] <rempresent> alright, i will ject...
[03:41] <mjc_> rempresent, same card, most modern games are completely unplayable. blame ati
[03:41] <rempresent> really
[03:41] <ewhitten> yeah, their driver support is terrible.
[03:41] <rempresent> mjc_:  that sucks...
[03:41] <mjc_> yes
[03:41] <rempresent> but, can i get it to work at least, and play the games...?
[03:41] <Shado1> ya ati needs to fix that
[03:41] <nomasteryoda> ati SUCKs
[03:41] <nomasteryoda> imho
[03:41] <ewhitten> WoW may be doable... it's not too intense
[03:42] <Shado1> BAH ATI OWNEZ
[03:42] <rempresent> if not, i don't want to, but i can go pay for a windows installation and do that later...
[03:42] <ewhitten> children!
[03:42] <rempresent> yeah, i didn't think so
[03:42] <nomasteryoda> Shado1, er, right
[03:42] <rempresent> anyway, is there like a guide that you followed or whatever...
[03:42] <Shado1> :)
[03:42] <Shado1> i got most all my games to work in linux
[03:42] <GammaRay> like what?
[03:42] <ewhitten> rempresent:  www.transgaming.org forums... there's a forum just for WoW there
[03:42] <bretzel> (sorry for insiting: ) Q: Why running kde session, the fonts are all bigger than all others window managers ?
[03:43] <rempresent> nah nah nah, i mean for the installation of the ati card in ubuntu
[03:43] <ewhitten> bretzel:  you might want to try one of the kubuntu channels listed in the topic.
[03:43] <transgress> okay i added universe and multiverse... but still i get nothing when searching qca
[03:43] <GammaRay> Shado1: "yea.. ati ownz *you*"
[03:43] <ewhitten> bretzel: I'm guessing most people here are probably gnome users
[03:43] <Shado1> i got WoW and BF, and Rupublic Commando, and ya some other random games, DK2, and others
[03:44] <Shado1> GammaRay: lol
[03:44] <ewhitten> if only Worms 3D worked.  *sniff*
[03:44] <mjc_> WoW ran fine w/ my GeForce4 Ti 4600, doesn't run at all on my 9800 Pro under linux
[03:44] <mjc_> too slow
[03:44] <mjc_> dual opteron 242, 2GB RAM
[03:44] <rempresent> shoot
[03:44] <bretzel> ewhitten: oops -- yes -- I suck! Actually I am running gnome but sometimes I need to go KDE... okay, see you @kubuntu then... sorry
[03:44] <mjc_> stupid fricking card
[03:44] <rempresent> well, i would like to give it a go...
[03:44] <ewhitten> no harm in trying.
[03:44] <rempresent> i do have a geforce 4 440 mx...
[03:44] <rempresent> something like that...
[03:45] <mjc_> your 9800Pro's performance would be approximately equivalent to that GF4MX
[03:45] <dromedary> how do i get my nikon D70 to show up as a USB mass storage device?
[03:45] <rempresent> so then i shouldn't do anything.
[03:45] <dromedary> can i get it to work?
[03:45] <hypno> ewhitten i think the scorched3d game is pretty similar to 3d worms
[03:45] <mjc_> try it and see if you can live with it
[03:45] <rempresent> anyway, about installing the ati card... anyone have a guide
[03:45] <rempresent> ?
[03:46] <Shado1> hey, i just installed ubuntu on my laptop, Toshiba Satilite A-10,  and the internet dosnt work, if i do ifconfig all i get is lo, my eth0 isnt there, if i do: ifconfig eth0 up , then it iwll be on the list but still no net
[03:46] <frank_> I had no idea the driver support from ATI for linux was horrible. Good thing I bought Nvidia!
[03:46] <dromedary> are there any guides or documentation dealing with digital camera support
[03:46] <mjc_> frank_, for amd64 for the longest time it was simply nonexistant
[03:46] <rempresent> yeah, you are a lucky one
[03:47] <mjc_> dromedary, try linux-usb.org
[03:47] <mjc_> sometimes they have links
[03:47] <frank_> I installed linux recently so I didn't miss it
[03:47] <rempresent> ewhitten:  where is a guide, or do you want to walk me through it?
[03:47] <transgress> it seems i'm still finding non-existant stuff for amd64... such as qca
[03:48] <ewhitten> rempresent:  I haven't seen a guide, but you might want to scroll up to the instructions I gave you above
[03:48] <rempresent> got it
[03:48] <ewhitten> rempresent:  also change the Driver "ati" line to Driver "fglrx" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:48] <ewhitten> rempresent:  sorry for being short, half dead with the flu. :)
[03:49] <GammaRay> so if ubuntu means humanity.. what does kubuntu mean?
[03:49] <dromedary> how do i switch to PTP mode? It says that's what i need to do with kernels 2.4 and later.
[03:49] <rempresent> alright
[03:49] <rempresent> thanks!
[03:49] <XTCboarder> khumanity ;D
[03:49] <ewhitten> humanity to lizards?
[03:49] <GammaRay> krappy humanity?
[03:49] <XTCboarder> i think it's ubuntu with kde
[03:50] <ewhitten> ;)
[03:50] <GammaRay> well I saw a lizard doing pushups. so there.
[03:51] <ewhitten> well, I saw one doing pushups too.  with no hands.
[03:51] <dromedary> how does one switch to PTP mode?
[03:52] <bob2> for your camera?
[03:52] <bob2> why?
[03:53] <shad0w1e> is there any way to roll back to hoary after upgrading to breezy?
[03:54] <lsuactiafner> checking for glib-config... /usr/bin/glib-config
[03:54] <lsuactiafner> checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.2... no
[03:54] <lsuactiafner> glib is installed..
[03:54] <bob2> shad0w1e: no
[03:54] <bretzel> shad0w1e: breezy ?? There is already another next release working ?
[03:54] <bob2> no, it's not
[03:54] <shad0w1e> its beta
[03:54] <bob2> lsuactiafner: libglib1.2-dev
[03:55] <shad0w1e> oh ok ill just delete the partition and reinstall. I anyways just installed it and for a joke updated it to breezy
[03:55] <GammaRay> ewhitten: http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/sn_arc99/2_27_99/bob2ref.htm
[03:55] <lsuactiafner> thanks
[03:55] <shad0w1e> I totally tried killing my linux yesterday and couldnt
[03:55] <bob2> lsuactiafner: also, install build-essential
[03:55] <GammaRay> ewhitten: http://galliform.bhs.mq.edu.au/lizard2/Behaviour/comm_pu.html
[03:56] <shad0w1e> ok thanks guys , peace
[03:56] <bob2> shad0w1e: note that breezy is undergoing large changes at the moment, and isn't ready for general users yet
[03:56] <bretzel> indeed - but where can I get infos about the features: working in progress and planned features in breezy ?
[03:56] <bretzel> hey bob2 :-)
[03:56] <ewhitten> GammaRay:   fine fine, you win :)
[03:57] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : one thing ubuntu needs is development tools installed by default
[03:57] <HrdwrBoB> lsuactiafner: because apt-get install build-essential is too hard?
[03:57] <bretzel> HrdwrBoB: :-)
[03:58] <bob2> lsuactiafner: corporates don't like it, it wastse space for normal desktop users, and instal;ling them by default still won't let you compile things
[03:58] <bob2> since just about any useful program will need a slew of other -dev packages, too
[03:58] <lsuactiafner> no HrdwrBoB : becuase apt-get install build-essential doesnt install everything someone needs to compile software himself.
[03:58] <frank_> lsuactiafner, Ubuntu is a user desktop primarily
[03:58] <bob2> lsuactiafner: you can't install " everything someone needs to compile software himself."
[03:58] <bob2> that's not possible
[03:58] <bob2> various -dev packages Conflict
[03:58] <pixil9> lol ubuntu as a colocated server
[03:59] <lsuactiafner> still, i feel i'm going nuts trying to get things to compile rather than using packages..
[03:59] <bob2> I have ubuntu on my mail and web werver
[03:59] <bob2> it works wonderfully
[03:59] <bob2> lsuactiafner: why are yo ucompiling to begin with?
[03:59] <bretzel> bob2: I agree because there are LOTS of pkgs to install for developping, thus if I know how to code basicly, I know and don't mind to download and install those pkgs ...
[03:59] <pixil9> Just use packages?
[03:59] <pixil9> wtf
[04:00] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : slackware has a loads of development tools, libraries and headers installed by default, sure if ubuntu is a desktop distrobution dont install by default.. but give ppl the option
[04:00] <bob2> lsuactiafner: sure, you do have the option to run synaptic post-install
[04:01] <bob2> you didn't see how much effort they put into cutting the number of install questions down
[04:01] <pixil9> I'd look at gentoo or FreeBSD if you want to use ports to compile your own packages
[04:01] <frank_> lsuactiafner, people can install whatever they want. build-essentials takes care of most things you need
[04:01] <bob2> they are *really* not going to add a "do you want five million dev packages installed?" question :)
[04:01] <transgress> woohoo got psi installed finally
[04:02] <lsuactiafner> it only takes care of the programming languages, not the headers and libraries
[04:02] <transgress> something i had run had my sources.list open and i couldn't get the other sources added
[04:02] <geargolem> would it make sense to change xserver to xfree86 for my chipset?
[04:02] <lsuactiafner> its more difficult to compile on ubuntu than it is on redhat.
[04:02] <frank_> lsuactiafner, then install everything under the sun. everything I needed was available
[04:02] <bretzel> Since December 2004, I think I've installed-reinstalled  and played and scrapped at least 10 times my ubuntu installations, thus I am a bit used to go synaptic for grabbing all dev tools I need and tell that it is lots of pkgs, but works very well and that is ok for me
[04:02] <lsuactiafner> ok i cant find libglib1.2-dev anywhere?
[04:03] <frank_> its there
[04:04] <bob2> libglib1.2-dev - Development files for GLib library
[04:04] <bob2> perhaps you didn't enable univer
[04:04] <frank_> lsuactiafner, so a name search in synaptic
[04:04] <bob2> wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[04:05] <geargolem> What would happen if I changed my kernel from xserver to xfree86
[04:05] <geargolem> ?
[04:06] <bob2> what do you mean?
[04:06] <frank_> geargolem, I don't understand your question.
[04:06] <pixil9> lol
[04:06] <pixil9> you mean change from xorg to xfree86?
[04:06] <pixil9> which has nothing to do with your kernel
[04:07] <TestDummy> Finally, I got it to install :D . Works pretty nice.
[04:07] <ice_1963> ok
[04:07] <geargolem> frank_ xfree86 supports the SIS driver, xserver does not
[04:08] <TestDummy> Er, but I'm forgetting. How do I mount an ntfs drive as read-only?
[04:08] <bob2> you're confused
[04:08] <pixil9> wtf is xserver?
[04:08] <pixil9> xorg you mean?
[04:08] <frank_> geargolem, you mean xorg does not?
[04:08] <rempresent> ewhitten:  alright, i just got done doing all that installing and i changed the line in my .conf file.. am i ready to do
[04:08] <bob2> xfree86 *is* an xserver
[04:08] <rempresent> anyone?
[04:08] <hexmode> hello?
[04:08] <pixil9> TestDummy, mount -t ntfs /dev/hdx /ntfs
[04:08] <pixil9> x being the partition #
[04:08] <TestDummy> Er, I mean
[04:08] <hexmode> can anybody recommend a good 802.11g pci card?
[04:08] <rempresent> can anyone help me with dual monitors?
[04:08] <TestDummy> Okay, I know it's hda1.
[04:08] <pixil9> well mkdir /ntfs or something
[04:09] <pixil9> and mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /ntfs
[04:09] <geargolem> no.  it uses nvidia instead frank_
[04:09] <TestDummy> And I remember when I tried out Kubuntu, I added a line to /etc/fstab (Or whatever its called) using nano.
[04:09] <pixil9> or just put it in /etc/fstab
[04:09] <TestDummy> What's the line?
[04:09] <pixil9> ya.
[04:09] <lsuactiafner> thanks found libglib now..
[04:09] <lsuactiafner> hope the compile works out now
[04:09] <rempresent> alright, i am just going to give it a go
[04:09] <rempresent> eh?
[04:09] <pixil9> /dev/hda1 /ntfs umask=0222,ro 0 0
[04:09] <hexmode> erm.... no recs.
[04:09] <pixil9> then mount -a
[04:10] <pixil9> oops
[04:10] <lsuactiafner> still same error
[04:10] <frank_> geargolem, SIS integrated graphics you mean? Youre sure xorg doesnt support it?
[04:10] <TestDummy> Er..
[04:10] <pixil9> /dev/hda1 /ntfs ntfs umask=0222,ro 0 0
[04:10] <bob2> lsuactiafner: remove config.cache
[04:10] <pixil9> /dev/hda1       /winxp          ntfs    umask=0222,rw 0 0
[04:10] <pixil9> that's mine
[04:10] <ShadowRage> how do I mount the cdrom in shell mode on the install cd?
[04:10] <pixil9> mount /cdrom
[04:11] <TestDummy> Er... /winxp ??
[04:11] <ShadowRage> pixil9: some reason, ubuntu isnt detecting the cdrom
[04:11] <TestDummy> I remember it being something else
[04:11] <ShadowRage> no one will answer why either
[04:11] <pixil9> TestDummy, Put it wherever the fuck u want
[04:11] <TestDummy> Oh
[04:11] <lsuactiafner> used clean source and did ldconfig, not working
[04:11] <bob2> ShadowRage: yes, it's a conspiracy
[04:11] <mebaran151> acidrip of dvdrip
[04:11] <frank_> geargolem, I just found that xorg supports sis so there is a way
[04:11] <pixil9> ShadowRage: it's not in dmesg?
[04:11] <mebaran151> which is better
[04:11] <FR500> hello
[04:11] <bob2> ShadowRage: or maybe you found a bug.  are you using hoary?
[04:11] <mebaran151> mencoder or transcoder
[04:11] <FR500> anyone uses cacti here?
[04:11] <mebaran151> and
[04:11] <rempresent> alright, now can i check my graphics driver... with the gears thing
[04:11] <rempresent> ?
[04:12] <mebaran151> how do output from evolution my addressbook
[04:12] <mebaran151> I need to do a reinstall
[04:12] <geargolem> frank_  how?  I'ved tried everything
[04:12] <ShadowRage> bob2: warty
[04:12] <mebaran151> because stuff got borked
[04:12] <ShadowRage> pixil9: hrmm
[04:12] <ShadowRage> forgot dmesg
[04:12] <TestDummy> Er... rw? I think read-only should work.
[04:12] <transgress> wow dvd's don't play too well
[04:12] <transgress> that sucks
[04:12] <XTCboarder> !!
[04:12] <XTCboarder> :(
[04:12] <mebaran151> anyway
[04:12] <XTCboarder> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:12] <XTCboarder> :(:(
[04:12] <bob2> ShadowRage: then get a hoary cd
[04:12] <mebaran151> anyone know how to make evolution output my addressbook
[04:12] <mebaran151> to like a 5 kb vcard file
[04:12] <rempresent> is this good: 1130 frames in 5.0 seconds = 226.000 FPS
[04:12] <mebaran151> like Knotacts does
[04:12] <bob2> XTCboarder: try to put a complete sentence on each line
[04:13] <rempresent> in glxgears
[04:13] <ShadowRage> easier said than done
[04:13] <bob2> XTCboarder: you have an nvidia or ati card?
[04:13] <XTCboarder> sorry
[04:13] <frank_> geargolem, I don't know exactly how but what does not work now? video acceleration? or nothing works at all?
[04:13] <XTCboarder> nvidia
[04:13] <bob2> XTCboarder: did you follow the instructions on wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?
[04:13] <pixil9> ShadowRage, no go?
[04:13] <lsuactiafner> rempresent : try 6000 frames+-
[04:13] <pixil9> How can I submit a howto?
[04:14] <mebaran151> so anyone help me
[04:14] <XTCboarder> nope...
[04:14] <mebaran151> how do I export my addressbook from evolution
[04:14] <XTCboarder> let's read
[04:14] <bob2> pixil9: put it on the wiki
[04:14] <bob2> XTCboarder: try that
[04:14] <ShadowRage> pixil9: I'll look via dmesg
[04:14] <pixil9> o.
[04:14] <rempresent> isuactiafner: shoot...
[04:14] <mebaran151> Evolution doesnt give me good instructions
[04:14] <mebaran151> unless it will allow me to make an LDAP dataabase
[04:14] <mebaran151> which I dont know how to do
[04:15] <transgress> do you mount dvd's to play them or do you play them like audio cd's?
[04:15] <pixil9> I wanna put a unreal tournament 1 FAQ up for people who don't have CD2
[04:15] <rempresent> isuactiafner: did i install it correctly... i followed this guys instructions, installed like 3 packages, and now i am stuck with crappy framerates
[04:15] <pixil9> like me
[04:15] <bob2> transgress: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, either way
[04:15] <XTCboarder> !!
[04:15] <geargolem> frank_  glxgears does not, blender...
[04:15] <rempresent> isuactiafner:  so... are you willing to help tweak this b-word
[04:15] <XTCboarder> bob2 .. cat: /proc/pci: No such file or directory
[04:16] <bob2> XTCboarder: use lspci instead
[04:16] <braz2kuk12> anyone any news on usplash
[04:16] <bob2> no
[04:16] <frank_> glxgears doesn't work at all? or just works slowly?
[04:16] <XTCboarder> it doesn't work
[04:16] <rempresent> works slowly
[04:16] <rempresent> for me
[04:16] <rempresent> it is a bword
[04:16] <bob2> XTCboarder: "doesn't work" is not something anyone can help with
[04:16] <transgress> herm...  alrighty... well it just seems that it locks mplayer up...
[04:16] <transgress> trying to play a dvd
[04:17] <rempresent> 1695 frames in 5.0 seconds = 339.000 FPS
[04:17] <geargolem> not at all, frank_
[04:17] <transgress> kaffeine will do it w/ no sound...
[04:17] <transgress> and laggy
[04:17] <meng> hi, i am having issues building my kernel modules for the ati drivers
[04:17] <XTCboarder> i mean, it won't turn on the opengl thingie
[04:17] <HrdwrBoB> meng: it's packaged
[04:17] <braz2kuk12> regarding slow play iwth mplayer and xine, i removed the gstreamer dvd plaugin using synpatic and that fixed it :)
[04:17] <bob2> meng: you don't need to build them
[04:17] <HrdwrBoB> ther's no need to build them
[04:17] <lsuactiafner> right now i'm trying to figure out why its damn near impossible to compile 30% of the source out there without sacrificing 7 ants and 3 cats.
[04:17] <bob2> meng: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:17] <meng> tried that
[04:17] <bob2> god I wish people would read the faq
[04:17] <bob2> lsuactiafner: can you be more vague?
[04:18] <meng> my fglrxinfo still shows mesa as my open gl driver
[04:18] <rempresent> i don't know where one is...
[04:18] <frank_> geargolem, install xbase-clients package
[04:19] <meng>  bob2: my fglrxinfo still shows mesa as my open gl driver
[04:19] <bretzel> hum ... I am trying to install ( compiling snapshot of ) E17 and the "evas " pkg compiles with errors: un defined symbols at link time: ...../libevas.so: undefined reference to `XF86VidModeQueryVersion'
[04:19] <frank_> geargolem, never mind you probably have it already
[04:20] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : xmms-1.2.10
[04:20] <bob2> lsuactiafner: or show us the error
[04:20] <rempresent> can you still swap an ati card, with an nvidia, then it will recognize it on reboot?
[04:20] <lsuactiafner> checking for glib-config... /usr/bin/glib-config
[04:20] <lsuactiafner> checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.2... no
[04:20] <meng> my stupidity got me my radeon 9600
[04:20] <bob2> lsuactiafner: dude
[04:20] <bob2> lsuactiafner: 1.2.10 is IN ubuntu already
[04:21] <lsuactiafner> yeh but some archane place it seems
[04:21] <bob2> what does that mean?
[04:21] <braz2kuk12> codename next release of ubuntu??
[04:21] <frank_> geargolem, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf   to check if xorg is using the sis driver
[04:21] <lsuactiafner> firefox 1.0.3 installer also spits out errors
[04:21] <geargolem> it is
[04:21] <geargolem> it is, frank_
[04:21] <bob2> lsuactiafner: did you paste those errors to #flood?
[04:21] <bob2> lsuactiafner: why are you trying to compile xmms?
[04:21] <Epicenter> I installed apache2 and then removed it and now want to install php4. But, it keeps trying to install it to the dirs for apache 2. How do I convince it I only have Apache *1*?
[04:21] <lsuactiafner> it means xmms is looking everywhere for glib and cant find it since glib is somewhere it shouldnt be
[04:21] <bob2> lsuactiafner: also, apt-cache showsrc xmms
[04:22] <bob2> lsuactiafner: no, it's not
[04:22] <meng> bob2: i tried following the wiki for the ati drivers
[04:22] <bob2> meng: cool
[04:22] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : i prefer to compile my own software
[04:22] <pixil9> Epicenter: is apache2 completely removed?
[04:22] <bob2> lsuactiafner: why?
[04:22] <bob2> lsuactiafner: also, 12:21:56           bob2 | lsuactiafner: also, apt-cache showsrc xmms
[04:22] <Epicenter> pixil9: I apt-get --purge remove'ed it
[04:22] <raydogg> how can i burn my data encrypted to a dvd in the same fashion as i setup a block device encrytped with AES or such
[04:22] <pixil9> Epicenter, o
[04:22] <frank_> geargolem, what error message do you get while running glxgears?
[04:22] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : -O3
[04:22] <bob2> lsuactiafner: haha
[04:23] <bob2> lsuactiafner: xmms is a significant cpu hog on your machine?
[04:23] <lsuactiafner> Package xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:23] <pixil9> Epicenter, libapache-mod-php4 ?
[04:23] <bob2> lsuactiafner: again, wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[04:23] <pixil9> Epicenter, don't use libapache2-mod-php4
[04:23] <Epicenter> trying that now
[04:23] <bob2> lsuactiafner: it's pretty rich to complain stuff doesn't work when you ignore the help people give you
[04:23] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : my loads dont often go below 100%
[04:23] <jordan_> i havent had any apt-get upgrades in a week or two, is that normal?
[04:24] <lsuactiafner>  04:23:44 up  3:12, 14 users,  load average: 1.00, 1.09, 1.07
[04:24] <bob2> lsuactiafner: and xmmsis a significant portion of that?
[04:24] <geargolem> frank_  I get xlib:  "GLX" missing on display : 0  0
[04:24] <kanuha> question, has anyone setup crossover office succsessfully?
[04:24] <pixil9> geargolem, Load glx in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:24] <braz2kuk12> yeh i use crossover office fine on hoary
[04:24] <meng> wine-config-sidenet
[04:24] <Epicenter> pixil9: when I browse to a .php file on the server it still tries to ask me to download it :P
[04:24] <Epicenter> I guess it didn't fully take
[04:25] <pixil9> Epicenter: did you use apache-mod-php?
[04:25] <frank_> geargolem, Section "Module"  is Load	"glx" there?
[04:25] <bob2> lsuactiafner: did you know that -O3 often makes code slower?
[04:25] <hypno> jordan_ ubuntu only releases security patches and major bugfixes between releases
[04:25] <Epicenter> apache-mod-php4
[04:25] <bob2> by increasing cache misses etc?
[04:25] <geargolem> frank_ yes it is
[04:25] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : what help? i did run apt-get install xmms, i did use synaptic.
[04:25] <meng> is firefox 1.0.3 out for debian or ubuntu yet?
[04:25] <pixil9> Epicenter: did you check the apache conf to see if it added php extensions?
[04:25] <Epicenter> pxiil9: -mod doesn't seem to exist.
[04:25] <pixil9> libapache-mod-php
[04:25] <pixil9> is what you want.
[04:25] <Epicenter> it doesn't exist
[04:25] <bob2> lsuactiafner: 12:23:29           bob2 | lsuactiafner: again, wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[04:25] <pixil9> yes it does
[04:25] <jordan_> hypno, Ohhhh okay, so the only way to get updates is breezy or backports?
[04:25] <bob2> lsuactiafner: you haven't read that page
[04:26] <pixil9> you need to update your sources
[04:26] <jordan_> i understand...
[04:26] <frank_> geargolem, I really don't know much about this. I don't know what to do
[04:26] <hypno> jordan_ that's right
[04:26] <bob2> lsuactiafner: if you had, you'd have enabled universe, then xmms would be available
[04:26] <Epicenter> do I need universe?
[04:26] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : in my opinion it makes it faster
[04:26] <Epicenter> or multiverse or what?
[04:26] <lsuactiafner> i do unroll loops also
[04:26] <bob2> lsuactiafner: haha
[04:26] <mjc_> anyone else running myth on ubuntu amd64? having problems w/ mythfrontend segfaulting
[04:26] <kanuha> braz2kuk12, the install goes well, but when I try to configure the screen goes blank and my monitor goes to sleep. Did you do anything special to install beyond sh and the file name?
[04:26] <HrdwrBoB> lsuactiafner: your opinion worth slightly less than nothing
[04:26] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto doesnt open in lynx...
[04:26] <bob2> lsuactiafner: well, that's a shame
[04:26] <jordan_> hypno, how long does it take for the next release to become stable enough for an idiot to use?
[04:26] <pixil9> Epicenter, sec
[04:26] <bob2> lsuactiafner: try it in links or w3m or something
[04:26] <mjc_> links > lynx
[04:26] <bob2> lsuactiafner: and don't just not read things
[04:27] <bob2> lsuactiafner: if you can't open it, TELL ME
[04:27] <geargolem> thanks anyway frank_
[04:27] <pixil9> Epicenter, it's in universe
[04:27] <bob2> it's damn annoying if you just ignore parts of our conversation
[04:27] <lsuactiafner> ok so how do i enable universe? as far as i know /etc/apt/sources?
[04:27] <bob2> yes
[04:27] <bob2> blah
[04:27] <hypno> jordan_ no idea..
[04:27] <Epicenter> pixil9: I added universe and did apt-get update, it still can't be found
[04:27] <bob2> lsuactiafner: it opens in lynx fine here.  try again.
[04:27] <jordan_> hypno, thanks anyway
[04:27] <meng> bob2: could just enable it in synaptic
[04:27] <geargolem> frank_ how do you comment out something on xorg.config?
[04:27] <jordan_> geargolem, #
[04:28] <frank_> geargolem, with a #
[04:28] <meng> bob2: just check the disabled sources
[04:28] <pixil9> well wtf I can see it fine.. and it says it's universe lol
[04:28] <pixil9> deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[04:28] <pixil9> deb http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/backports hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:28] <pixil9> unless its on one of those?
[04:28] <bob2> meng: oh, good point
[04:28] <bob2> gah
[04:28] <bob2> pixil9: please don't use backports
[04:29] <frank_> do they backport to amd64 also? I haven't seen anything there yet
[04:29] <bob2> oh man
[04:29] <meng> backports is a good thing
[04:29] <bob2> no they're not
[04:29] <bob2> they're broken and badly designed
[04:29] <meng> ubuntu's gaim is riddiculously old
[04:29] <meng> old times 100
[04:29] <pixil9> meng: use those sources I just pasted.
[04:29] <bob2> 1.1.4 is ridiculously old?
[04:29] <pixil9> it'll update ya to 1.2.1
[04:29] <Edgan> meng: hoary's is 1.1.4 and there is only 1.2.0 and 1.2.1 which are newer
[04:29] <jordan_> bob2, oops really? i only used like 4 of them so i guess im okay...
[04:30] <jordan_> bob2, mainly wesnoth
[04:30] <Edgan> pixil9: 1.2.1 is in breezy and backports
[04:30] <geargolem> jordan_  where does the # go?
[04:30] <meng> it's OSS software after all
[04:30] <Epicenter> pixil9: So what should I be using?
[04:30] <pixil9> As you'll notice I just pasted backports sources.
[04:30] <pixil9> lol
[04:30] <jordan_> geargolem, before the line
[04:30] <bob2> jordan_: they will make upgrading to the next version of ubuntu harder
[04:30] <pixil9> but thanks for the info
[04:30] <frank_> geargolem, before the line starts.  IM providers are constantly breaking things
[04:31] <ogra> bob2, since monday...
[04:31] <jordan_> bob2, i would love to visit australia one of these days
[04:31] <meng> agree about the IM thing
[04:31] <pixil9> My bro is leavin there for a year in like 4 days
[04:32] <meng> too bad MSN's PM is not suppoted
[04:32] <ogra> jordan_, you really should, its absolutely worth it
[04:32] <pixil9> too bad webcams don't work :(
[04:32] <meng> so as winks and nudges
[04:32] <meng> but nudges are more of an annoyance
[04:32] <Edgan> meng: PM?
[04:33] <Edgan> pixil9: there is work on gaim-vv
[04:33] <meng> like the currently playing track in WMP or iTunes
[04:33] <geargolem> thank you for your help
[04:33] <meng> or some other msg after ur screenname
[04:34] <pixil9> Edgan: supports webcam?
[04:34] <Edgan> pixil9: working on msn webcam support
[04:34] <pixil9> i can't wait
[04:34] <pixil9> then i can toss windows
[04:34] <meng> the official MSN client does webcams
[04:34] <kanuha> braz2kuk12, did you use su or sudo when you installed cross-over?
[04:34] <meng> i can't toss my win yet, got games to play
[04:34] <Epicenter> STILL Can't find libapache-mod-php
[04:35] <Edgan> pixil9: who are you constantly webcaming with?
[04:35] <pixil9> Edgan: girlfriend
[04:35] <meng> ah
[04:35] <Edgan> pixil9: tried playing with gnomemeeting?
[04:35] <pixil9> Edgan, no.. what is it
[04:35] <frank_> geargolem, check this out: http://www.winischhofer.at/linuxsisvga.shtml
[04:35] <Edgan> pixil9: video conferencing software for linux
[04:35] <meng> is there a way to install the official MSN client in linux?
[04:35] <pixil9> ah.. will it connect to her msn?
[04:36] <kanuha> pixil9, what brand webcam do you have?
[04:36] <pixil9> kanuha: intel
[04:36] <kanuha> Which model?
[04:36] <A_Alam> can some please help me, where i can add my langauge to ubuntu5.x for booting in LiveCD?
[04:36] <Edgan> pixil9: probably not, but it might work with some standard windows video conferencing.
[04:36] <felipe__> meng you can use amsn or gaim
[04:36] <pitti> A_Alam: what language do you need? We don't support it yet?
[04:36] <pixil9> Edgan, hmm might check itout
[04:36] <pixil9> kanuha, i have no idea lol
[04:37] <pitti> A_Alam: usually you can select your language at the very first installation question
[04:37] <pixil9> it has a lens shutter
[04:37] <meng> felipe__: i realize that, but there are times i needed the real client
[04:37] <pixil9> and says intel
[04:37] <raydogg> how do i mount an iso image to look like a block device ?
[04:37] <pixil9> o
[04:37] <pixil9> CS430
[04:37] <A_Alam> pitti, Punjabi (pa_IN), not yet added
[04:37] <Edgan> raydogg: mount file.iso /mnt/iso -o loop
[04:37] <kanuha> pixil9, on the bottom it should have the model. Mine is the cs330
[04:37] <meng> the lang pack is not too good
[04:37] <lsuactiafner> pixil9 : if usb lsusb -v
[04:37] <frank_> Men, maybe wine / crossover supports it I dont know
[04:37] <raydogg> thx Edgan
[04:37] <pitti> A_Alam: indeed, we don't support this yet
[04:37] <meng> only my date and time changed
[04:38] <kanuha> pixil9, I have a cs330 and cannot get it to work
[04:38] <TestDummy> Blah, I think I did..
[04:38] <A_Alam> i can know there is 6 Indian lanaguage for which can added to release
[04:38] <pixil9> kanuha: haha we're probably screwed
[04:38] <pixil9> though a webcam costs like $20 these days
[04:38] <A_Alam> for Gnome as well kde
[04:38] <meng> just when i thought BM is easy to translate
[04:38] <TestDummy> I add the line to /etc/fstab to mount ntfs, but on reboot it says something like "mount point /media/windows does not exist"
[04:38] <Edgan> pixil9: hehe, you might get away with msn messenger in VMware if the camera is usb1
[04:39] <pixil9> TestDummy, mkdir /media/windows
[04:39] <pitti> A_Alam: if you start to translate it in Rosetta, then one of the next language pack updates will contain your translations
[04:39] <DoppelGanger> TestDummy: truly you have earned your name
[04:39] <TestDummy> I have =|
[04:39] <dazed> what to do what to do
[04:39] <pixil9> heh my computer blows i don't think i'll be installing vmware
[04:39] <TestDummy> This isn't the only time I've been an idiot
[04:39] <meng> how can i join Rosetta?
[04:39] <meng> i'll like to work on the BM packs during the holidays
[04:39] <ogra> meng launchpad.ubuntu.com
[04:40] <frank_> BM?
[04:40] <TestDummy> pixil9: Is that it if the line is already in /etc/fstab?
[04:40] <meng> Bahasa Melayu, the official language of Malaysia
[04:41] <A_Alam> pitti, language pack for Punjabi is there, but not include in menu at boot time, i use Rosetta
[04:41] <frank_> oh. I learn something new everyday
[04:41] <pixil9> TestDummy, I don't see why not
[04:41] <pixil9> just make the damn directory and type mount -a
[04:41] <TestDummy> Oh, mount -a..
[04:41] <pitti> A_Alam: ah, right. The language needs to be added to the installer, too
[04:41] <pixil9> don't reboot
[04:41] <pitti> A_Alam: that's a job for Kamion
[04:41] <pixil9> mount -a will mount all devices in /etc/fstab
[04:41] <TestDummy> Ah.
[04:41] <TestDummy> Didn't know that
[04:41] <meng> is there a way to correctly install lang packs?
[04:42] <A_Alam> pitti, i want to update liveCD for Punjabi, where can i find list for Language for it, where in 4.10 release is /boot/grub/lang.lst
[04:42] <ogra> meng, synaptic ?
[04:43] <meng> did that, but only my date and time changed
[04:43] <pixil9> lol punjabi?
[04:43] <TestDummy> Aha, there it is
[04:43] <TestDummy> It works :)
[04:43] <meng> *itching for meruku
[04:43] <pitti> A_Alam: this has got nothing to do with grub, that's a debian-installer issue
[04:44] <Epicenter> pixil9: It absolutely cannot find this package
[04:44] <Epicenter> Pixil9: packages.ubuntu.org says it's in universe. apt-cache search disagrees
[04:45] <XTCboarder> !! help, i got gnome resolution settings at 800x600 but my creen says it is at 1600x1200
[04:45] <XTCboarder> anybody know somethign about this problem?
[04:46] <pixil9> Epicenter: search libapache in synaptic
[04:46] <pixil9> i dunno thats where i see it :P
[04:46] <A_Alam> pitti, i have ubuntu 4.10, there is /boot/grub/lang.lst file is there
[04:46] <Epicenter> Pixil9: There is -php4
[04:46] <Epicenter> but not -php
[04:47] <interalia_> hi.  sorry if this is a faq.. does anyone know how I can disable ubuntu trying to suspend etc. when I shut my laptop lid?
[04:47] <pixil9> ya
[04:47] <pixil9> of course you want php4!
[04:48] <dantheman> can anyone tell me why my printing might be fuzzy, and slightly misplaced on a page?
[04:48] <maxsideburn> hi all
[04:48] <maxsideburn> Can anyone tell me what the most graphically advanced WM is for X?
[04:48] <xfSx> hi, can anyone tell me why my pc just blew up?
[04:49] <|QuaD-> maxsideburn: graphically advanced? explain what you mean by graphically advanced
[04:49] <xfSx> maxsideburn, i'm not sure xfce or gnome, i'm new to the game
[04:49] <Epicenter> pixil9: I installed it. But when I click a link on the sites hosted it just tries to download the file :P
[04:49] <meng> xfSx: neglect and the lack of TLC?
[04:49] <cens0red> xfSx al qaeda?
[04:49] <xfSx> lol
[04:50] <pixil9> Epicenter, Open your httpd.conf or whichever it is
[04:50] <raydogg> Edgan, what filesystem type should I use to mount file.iso ?
[04:50] <pixil9> Epicenter, Look at which extensions it has might have to add just .php
[04:50] <b2s> raydogg: iso9660
[04:50] <xfSx> i think cens0red is closer to the truth
[04:50] <Edgan> raydogg: -t iso9660
[04:50] <Epicenter> pixil9: what line is that?
[04:50] <cens0red> xfSx tell us about it. Was it spectacular?
[04:50] <Epicenter> I added index.php
[04:50] <maxsideburn> i meant are there any cool experimental WMs for X?
[04:50] <maxsideburn> like with really advanced graphics, or special effects, or something really different
[04:50] <pixil9> Epicenter: I don't know the mod should of added it near the bottom
[04:50] <xfSx> well i put in an ubuntu cd, and as it booted gnome it just blew up
[04:51] <|QuaD-> maxsideburn: the WM doesn't really determine your graphics
[04:51] <xfSx> with a bit of smoke
[04:51] <|QuaD-> your xserver does
[04:51] <raydogg> says bad superblock on /dev/loop4, should i create the iso in any special way ?
[04:51] <xfSx> i think my xserver meltdowned
[04:51] <Epicenter> pixil9: it isn't
[04:51] <Epicenter> pixil9: I'd put in a LoadModule line but I don't know the path to the .so
[04:51] <|QuaD-> maxsideburn: each WM has its use
[04:51] <beh> how can i capture screen shots of mplayers video?
[04:51] <cens0red> xfSx hmmm. Sounds like its time had come.
[04:52] <xfSx> yeah icewm is always talking about how it was abused as a child
[04:52] <meng> what was the WM which looks like winxp?
[04:52] <cens0red> I've been discovering the limits of my cpu fan since I started using ubuntu.
[04:52] <pixil9> Epicenter, sec installing apache
[04:52] <xfSx> my pc makes a noise it never made in xp when it's running glxgears
[04:52] <pixil9> Epicenter, send me a php file
[04:53] <frank_> the gears need to be oiled
[04:53] <Epicenter> pixil9: 1 sec
[04:54] <beh> does anyone know of an easy way to get screencaps from a video in mplayer
[04:54] <Epicenter> pixil9: try this
[04:55] <Epicenter> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/epicenter/index.php
[04:55] <|QuaD-> beh: if you ask a third time, maybe i will know the answer
[04:55] <pixil9> connection refused
[04:55] <beh> |QuaD-: maybe someone who knew the answer didnt see my message the first time
[04:56] <|QuaD-> beh: maybe, thats why i suggested a thirdtime
[04:56] <beh> |QuaD-: or maybe you were just being sarcastic
[04:56] <|QuaD-> beh: nope, i was using your logice
[04:56] <Epicenter> pixil9: Try now
[04:56] <|QuaD-> beh: you should keep sending that message
[04:56] <beh> |QuaD- oh ok
[04:56] <pixil9> works?
[04:56] <|QuaD-> cuz its possible someone didn't see your msg
[04:57] <Epicenter> pixil9: it's up, yes
[04:57] <pixil9> so what's the problem
[04:57] <hypno> beh set the -vo to x11
[04:57] <hypno> then you should be able to grab it with gimp or whatever
[04:58] <nickrud> well, I finally got around to setting up my  the mozilla multimedia setup :)
[04:58] <raydogg> ok, so how do i mount file.iso as a writable file system ?
[04:59] <raydogg> (I got the mount with iso9660 to work )
[04:59] <nickrud> I can play most of the things on http://fredrik.hubbe.net/plugger/menu.html with mplayer embedded,
[04:59] <raydogg> I want to write files to this block device
[04:59] <geneo93> nickrud:  back
[04:59] <nickrud> but not everything.
[04:59] <nickrud> geneo93, hi
[04:59] <nickrud> Some I would need crossover, but I wanted to compare notes a bit
[04:59] <meng> nickrud: how did you get ur mozilla plugins to work?
[05:00] <meng> i have the vlc plugins installed, but nothing gets streamed and it fails miserably in atomfilms
[05:01] <nickrud> Followed the instructions on the wiki, and installed mozilla-mplayer and mozplugger.
[05:01] <pixil9> Epicenter, I'm running apache w/ libapache-mod-php4 without a problem..
[05:02] <nickrud> If anyone else could look at those, and especially the linspire ones
[05:02] <meng> i tried mozilla-mplayer and mozpluger, it wont work too
[05:02] <Epicenter> pixil9: I can't seem to. :P
[05:02] <Epicenter> pixil9: send me your httpd.conf please?
[05:02] <meng> mainly coz i am using an AMD athlon xp
[05:02] <Epicenter> pixil9: or a .tar.gz your whole /etc/apache/ dir
[05:02] <nickrud> :P
[05:02] <nickrud> geneo93, did you get your sound back?
[05:03] <Juhaz> raydogg, I don't think you can write to iso9660
[05:03] <geneo93> all my sound works except for kde sounds
[05:03] <pixil9> lol i just removed it
[05:03] <nickrud> geneo93, you mean gnome sounds?
[05:04] <geneo93> aand gnome sounds
[05:04] <pixil9> hold on
[05:04] <pixil9> Epicenter, Why don't you remove it all and make sure the /etc/apache dirs are gone
[05:04] <pixil9> reinstall
[05:04] <nickrud> geneo93, kde and gnome use different sound systems. I don't know if you can make kde use esd.
[05:05] <Epicenter> pixil9: I did
[05:05] <geneo93> the only thing i have on now is tv card
[05:05] <nickrud> geneo93, never used one :)
[05:06] <geneo93> nickrud:  mine is old wintv card with fm
[05:06] <goldfish> Anyone here use xterm ?
[05:06] <rempresent> alright... i am back.. i now own a nvida graphics card
[05:06] <pixil9> Epicenter, All i did was install apache 1 and libapache-mod-php4
[05:06] <pixil9> restarted apache
[05:06] <pixil9> worked perfect.
[05:06] <rempresent> a geforce 4 mx440
[05:07] <Epicenter> pixil9: so did I :P
[05:07] <rempresent> now how do i install this b-word
[05:07] <nickrud> you take the case apart
[05:07] <nickrud> :)
[05:07] <rempresent> yar
[05:07] <pixil9> Epicenter: Ok well what extension is the file you're loading
[05:08] <geneo93> rempresent:  i have that card in this working nicely
[05:08] <pixil9> http://<IP_ADDRESS>/phpsysinfo
[05:09] <pixil9> that work?
[05:09] <pixil9> oops
[05:09] <pixil9> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:888/phpsysinfo
[05:09] <Epicenter> yes.
[05:10] <borgista> I have an issue with my wireless-net card. A D-Link. Anyone with some experience with said card?
[05:10] <pixil9> Well
[05:10] <rempresent> geneo93:  do you play WoW on it
[05:10] <geneo93> no
[05:10] <pixil9> Epicenter, Ok what is the extension of the file?
[05:10] <Edgan> borgista: model?
[05:11] <Epicenter> pixil9: .php
[05:11] <borgista> DWL-G520
[05:11] <Edgan> borgista: rev?
[05:11] <pixil9> AddType application/x-httpd-php .php
[05:11] <pixil9> uncomment that
[05:11] <pixil9> restart apache
[05:11] <geneo93> freecraft is the only game i ever play
[05:11] <borgista> the issue is that it comes up in my Device Manager yet not under 'Networking'
[05:11] <borgista> rev?
[05:11] <pixil9> i dunno what else to say
[05:11] <pixil9> heh
[05:11] <rempresent> dang
[05:11] <Edgan> borgista: yes, it will say on the card. Different revisions can be different chipsets
[05:11] <Epicenter> pixil9: no luck
[05:12] <pixil9> are you're running /etc/init.d/apache restart
[05:12] <pixil9> ?
[05:12] <Epicenter> pixil9: I see no line to load php4 in here
[05:12] <Epicenter> pixil9: killall apache, apache
[05:12] <borgista> Let me check.
[05:12] <Epicenter> restarting the real way didn't help either
[05:13] <pixil9> Epicenter: You never found AddType application/x-httpd-php .php ?
[05:13] <pixil9> fuck i have no idea :(
[05:14] <pixil9> apache2 musta borked somethin
[05:14] <thechitowncubs> Hey
[05:14] <thechitowncubs> How can I install mencoder?
[05:14] <borgista> Edgan: on the ubuntu wiki it says the chipset is Athereos AR5212
[05:14] <Edgan> borgista: looks like in generally the G520 uses the madwifi driver, which is part of ubuntu, under restricted models
[05:15] <borgista> So all I need is the restricted modules then.
[05:15] <Epicenter> pixil9: I did, an I uncommentedit
[05:15] <thechitowncubs> when i try sudo apt-get install mencoder
[05:15] <Epicenter> pixil9: But there is no loadmodule line for php4
[05:15] <Edgan> borgista: if you don't have them installed, yeah
[05:15] <thechitowncubs> Nothing works
[05:15] <borgista> Because the Wiki holds that it works "out-of-the-box"
[05:15] <occy> Are there any good easy to use DVD tools for Linux yet?
[05:15] <borgista> so that must be it.
[05:15] <GammaRay> thechitowncubs: that's not a very descriptive complaint
[05:15] <borgista> Thank you Edgan
[05:15] <pixil9> Epicenter, shouldn't that me in /etc/apache/modules.conf ?
[05:15] <pixil9> be*
[05:15] <Epicenter> pixil9: now that I check, it is
[05:15] <geneo93> thechitowncubs:  apt-get update
[05:15] <Edgan> borgista: I made sure to have my wireless card plugged in when I installed ubuntu so that it would detect the card and set it up.  I'd like to get stuff off my camera and put onto a DVD under Linux
[05:17] <frank_> occy, don't know about firewire but check out  tovid  for the whole consersion and authoring
[05:17] <Edgan> pixil9: haha
[05:17] <occy> k
[05:18] <nickrud> or, a better question, do you have mallirat's repo in your sources.list :)
[05:18] <Edgan> frank_: you have any 32bit installed on your 64bit system?
[05:18] <frank_> membreya, is that a module?
[05:18] <frank_> Edgan, yeah
[05:18] <membreya> frank_: it is in the k7 kernel...
[05:18] <membreya> do you know what AGP driver you're loading?
[05:18] <membreya> what does lsmod |grep agp show?
[05:18] <Edgan> frank_: how does the 32bit chroot work out for you? I am fond of multi-arch, but ubuntu doesn't have it yet
[05:19] <Edgan> membreya: in my case, none, since I am using the nvidia driver
[05:19] <frank_> membreya, That lsmod gives me nothing yet video acceleration definitly works fine
[05:19] <pixil9> Time to install Medal of Honor
[05:19] <frank_> Edgan, 32bit chroot works fine but takes some time setting up
[05:20] <Epicenter> pixil9: giving up on me then? ;(
[05:20] <membreya> frank_: video acceleration doesn't work on my PC..i get 400 fps on glxgears running an amd64 3200 (geforce 4000)
[05:20] <rempresent> alright, i am back with news from the graphics driver
[05:20] <geneo93> membreya:  thats sad
[05:20] <pixil9> Epicenter, Well what can I do lol
[05:20] <frank_> membreya, do you have nvidia-glx installed?
[05:20] <Epicenter> mm.
[05:20] <Edgan> membreya: I get 6500fps with my amd64 3500 and geforce fx 5900se
[05:20] <rempresent> this is what my glxgears is running at with the nvidia driver... at least i think i have it installed...
[05:20] <rempresent> 808 frames in 5.0 seconds = 161.600 FPS
[05:21] <membreya> geneo93: it makes me cry
[05:21] <membreya> frank_: sure do
[05:21] <pixil9> Epicenter, Unless I can ssh in or something
[05:21] <rempresent> how can i check it?
[05:21] <membreya> though I just changed my kernel so it isn't loaded
[05:21] <Epicenter> pixil9: I think it just needs a reinstall, sorry to say
[05:21] <computerguy867> how does one get amd64 packeges such as acrobat and flash
[05:21] <frank_> membreya, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable ?
[05:21] <DR_K13> hi room
[05:21] <Edgan> computerguy867: there is no 64bit flash, yet
[05:21] <membreya> yet? :P well hopefully adobe bring it out :)
[05:21] <Edgan> computerguy867: not 64bit acrobat either
[05:21] <raydogg> Edgan, how can I mount file.iso as a writable file system ?
[05:22] <Edgan> computerguy867: not that you  can't run the 32bit versions
[05:22] <Edgan> raydogg: don't think you can
[05:22] <raydogg> when i mounted it as ISO 9660 it was read only
[05:22] <computerguy867> how can you
[05:22] <Edgan> computerguy867: 32bit chroot
[05:22] <computerguy867> if i add the marillat repositories it doesnt work
[05:22] <computerguy867> 32bit chroot?
[05:22] <frank_> raydogg, considering its for CDs, read only seems fine to me!
[05:22] <membreya> going to steal my ex's 4400 see if it works :D
[05:23] <Edgan> yeah, a directory structure that everything 32bit goes into, including libraries, so that it doesn't conflict with the 64bit files
[05:23] <raydogg> frank_, I hear ya, but what I want to do is create a virtual block device
[05:23] <rempresent> what can i do instead of glx gears to check my graphics card
[05:23] <rempresent> i am getting really really low fps.. and i don't know what to do?
[05:23] <raydogg> So i want to be able to mount file.iso as a block device
[05:23] <computerguy867> sounds messy
[05:23] <pixil9> Epicenter, Your whole box? lol
[05:23] <frank_> Remenic, if glxgears is not fast nothing else will be
[05:24] <raydogg> I want to use cryptsetup on this "virtual block device"
[05:24] <Epicenter> pixil9: it seems I've created quite a mess, yes.
[05:24] <pixil9> haha
[05:24] <frank_> Rempresent, if glxgears is not fast nothing else will be
[05:24] <pixil9> doesn't take that long anyway i guess
[05:24] <Epicenter> and that's all this machine does, run apache
[05:24] <Edgan> computerguy867: yeah, it is, and will later be replaced with multi-arch, which puts stuff in parallel, but debian/ubuntu don't have it yet. Plus in some cases multi-arch has problems a chroot doesn't
[05:24] <rempresent> frank_:  what can i do to check out what is wrong, or check my driver...
[05:24] <pixil9> haha i'm installing medal of honour through a samba share to a windows box that's mounting the bin & cues with daemon tools
[05:24] <computerguy867> when is this expected to get better?
[05:24] <geneo93> rempresent: mine is dual ps with 440mx and i get around 900 fps
[05:25] <computerguy867> 6 months?
[05:25] <rempresent> frank_:  i just installed the nvidia driver, or so i thought, and i don't know why there isn't an increase in performance.
[05:25] <Edgan> computerguy867: at the rate they seem to be going, and that it depends on debian doing it first, who knows
[05:25] <frank_> rempresent, , sudo nvidia-glx-config enable ?
[05:25] <Epicenter> pixil9: can you upload or send me your etc/apache/ dir?
[05:25] <Epicenter> That may help
[05:25] <computerguy867> i see, well thanks for your help
[05:25] <pixil9> Epicenter, ok
[05:25] <rempresent> frank_:  i did that, how do i restart x to check out the new performance
[05:25] <pixil9> Epicenter, So all i have is apache and libapache-mod-php4
[05:25] <Edgan> computerguy867: there are howtos of how to setup the chroot
[05:25] <pixil9> to let you know
[05:25] <Epicenter> pixil9: i know.
[05:25] <computerguy867> ok, ill check em out
[05:26] <rempresent> geneo93:  i have the same card and i get like 200fps
[05:26] <geneo93> rempresent:  ctrl alt backspace
[05:26] <frank_> alt-ctrl-F1,  login,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:26] <frank_> rempresent, alt-ctrl-F1,  login,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:27] <Mestapheles> anybody noticed that ubuntuppc.webplazahosting.com is down?  Think this is permanent?
[05:27] <Edgan> maybe it moved
[05:28] <thenewlax> yo
[05:28] <Mestapheles> I hope its somewhere, I there are people who wrote some good guides
[05:28] <frank_> Edgan, did you try to use nvclock?
[05:29] <Edgan> frank_: no
[05:29] <rempresent> i got it to work, i saw the nvidia logo at boot
[05:29] <rempresent> thanks a ton guys, that just took like 4 hours of my life....
[05:29] <XTCboarder> :(
[05:29] <rempresent> it is worth it tooo see that freakin' logo
[05:29] <geneo93> hi a_blyss
[05:29] <thenewlax> how would i get Ubuntu to recognize another hard drive that is in my comp?
[05:29] <Epicenter> pixil9: uploading them?
[05:29] <thenewlax> im kinda a noob..
[05:29] <XTCboarder> my monitor is acting funny :(
[05:29] <geneo93> rempresent:  what frame rates you have now
[05:30] <rempresent> about 2600 fps
[05:30] <thenewlax> can anyone help me out?
[05:30] <rempresent> this is sweet... now for WoW
[05:30] <Juhaz> thenewlax, define recognize, do you want to access the file systems on that other hard drive?
[05:30] <rempresent> thanks a ton frank and geneo
[05:30] <rempresent> !
[05:30] <thenewlax> yea
[05:30] <geneo93> np
[05:30] <XTCboarder> i can't set correctly my screen resolution after I installed my screen
[05:30] <thenewlax> like so i can store stuff on there
[05:30] <frank_> Edgan, it's a tool to overclock a nvidia card but it only segfaults for me
[05:31] <rempresent> wha wha wha... how do i go about overclocking the card frank
[05:31] <rempresent> ?
[05:31] <Edgan> frank_: I don't have a need to overclock.
[05:31] <Epicenter> pixil9: thanks :)
[05:31] <thenewlax> but yea
[05:31] <pixil9> Epicenter, np
[05:31] <pixil9> Epicenter, mom was buggin me heh
[05:31] <Juhaz> thenewlax, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:31] <geneo93> frank_:  got it to work in mandrake haven't tried in ubuntu yet
[05:31] <frank_> rempresent, good to see it works
[05:31] <rempresent> thanks a bunch
[05:31] <rempresent> no joke
[05:32] <qman> anyone using the 1.0.3 ipw2200 driver?
[05:32] <thenewlax> ill check it out
[05:32] <IIIEARS> "" - screen trouble what command edits screen settings?
[05:33] <pixil9> Almost MoH time!!!
[05:33] <pixil9> what other good games can i install on linux
[05:33] <DanglyBits> is mozilla-firefox 1.0.3 available yet?  If not when?
[05:33] <geneo93> ablyss:  you having nick problems
[05:33] <DarthFrog> pixil9: Quake3 Doom3
[05:33] <DR_K13> lol
[05:33] <thenewlax> thats Juhaz
[05:33] <pixil9> DanglyBits, Is it absolutely necessary for you to have 1.0.3?
[05:33] <thenewlax> thanks*
[05:33] <frank_> DanglyBits, it wont be available in Hoary
[05:33] <pixil9> Hmm Doom3 sounds fun.. will my 1ghz cpu do it?
[05:34] <DanglyBits> why?
[05:34] <DanglyBits> frank_:why?
[05:34] <nickrud> thechitowncubs, you still here?
[05:34] <frank_> DanglyBits, beacause hoary will only get security updates from now on
[05:35] <DanglyBits> frank_:where can i get it then?
[05:35] <pixil9> DarthFrog, What cpu do i need for doom3?
[05:35] <frank_> DanglyBits, from breezy? I\m not sure...
[05:35] <DanglyBits> frank_: where do i get breezy?
[05:35] <frank_> pixil9, Video card is the big issue for any new game
[05:35] <qman> I think the 2.6.10-5 headers are screwed
[05:36] <pixil9> frank: i got a geforce 2 pro :P
[05:36] <qman> why else would it report "SMP"?
[05:36] <frank_> DanglyBits, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=70
[05:36] <frank_> pixil9, my guess is that Doom3 will give 2 fps
[05:37] <Juhaz> frank_, firefox 1.0.3 is a security update
[05:37] <chavo> maybe a bit more than 2 fps, but it will be way slow.
[05:38] <frank_> Juhaz, yeah but I think the way it works is that they make a patch of the security update to firefox 1.0.2
[05:38] <pixil9> frank_, lol.
[05:38] <pixil9> Well ut1 runs fine
[05:38] <pixil9> and moh
[05:38] <IIIEARS> Unreal tournament/UT2k3/2k4 works fine works fine
[05:38] <frank_> bah I used to play duke3d at like 7fps !
[05:38] <dazed> welll adios membreya
[05:39] <dazed> duke3d
[05:39] <dazed> i had every expansion pack and every book to duke3d
[05:39] <dazed> i still do
[05:39] <IIIEARS> though it can be difficult to install if you are new to linux - i tried and gave up
[05:40] <IIIEARS> ut2k4 includes an .sh install script with the DVD vers. - (CD vers. too?)
[05:40] <frank_> Nobody steals our chicks.... and lives!
[05:40] <darkaudit> IIIEARS: cd ver too...
[05:40] <IIIEARS> great! :)
[05:40] <darkaudit> looks very much like the loki installers I've seen for other games
[05:41] <dazed> "i came here to do 2 things...kick ass and chew bubble gum...looks like im all outta gum"
[05:41] <frank_> I'm gonna rip of your head and **** down your throat
[05:41] <burner> is duke3d out for linux?
[05:42] <IIIEARS> there hasn't been anything like duke nukem for humor - lol
[05:42] <geneo93> dazed:  sounds like something my 12 yr old son would do
[05:42] <burner> it's open source now right?  maybe it'll work with cedega?
[05:42] <frank_> Yeah its open source now
[05:42] <darkaudit> there was a project on icculus' page, but they look to be in a very bitter mood about it
[05:42] <burner> i bet it's worth it to try the dos version with linux
[05:42] <frank_> I haven't played it recently though
[05:42] <burner> or even just wine
[05:43] <IIIEARS> duke nukem is - duke nukem 2 3d is a ghostly apparition always just beyond the horizon. - lol
[05:44] <Juhaz> burner, http://icculus.org/duke3d/
[05:44] <darkaudit> what's bigger vaporware... Duke Nukem Forever or that WinFS thingy... orig. announced circa 1990?
[05:44] <pixil9> wicked
[05:44] <pixil9> where can i download duke3d
[05:44] <pixil9> oh cvs
[05:45] <pixil9> fuck thats too much work
[05:45] <bur[n] er> cvs? u can get win32 binaries
[05:45] <darkaudit> pixil9: and they don't want to hear from anyone about it
[05:45] <pixil9> ya i see now
[05:45] <pixil9> <-- too lazy
[05:46] <brazmetal> does someone here streams audio on the net?
[05:46] <brazmetal> does someone here stream audio on the net?
[05:46] <bur[n] er> sure
[05:46] <bur[n] er> not in linux
[05:46] <darkaudit> brazmetal: incoming or outgoing?
[05:46] <bur[n] er> but i heard icecast works?  with a bmp plugin?
[05:46] <bur[n] er> or xmms plugin
[05:47] <beowuff> What's a good normalizer pluggin for xmms?
[05:47] <brazmetal> darkaudit, outgoing... providing a radio
[05:47] <brazmetal> I use shoutcast
[05:47] <darkaudit> not I
[05:47] <brazmetal> And the "sc_trans" program
[05:47] <geneo93> beowuff:  xmms-normalize
[05:48] <brazmetal> but I want a alternative to sc_trans, cause it's very limited
[05:48] <discord> anyone know how to get a prism card working in ubuntu?
[05:48] <IIIEARS> How do i install DeCSS.deb after loading it into fileroller?
[05:48] <burner> brazmetal, apt-get install xmms-volnorm
[05:48] <frank_> sudo dpkg -i DeCSS.deb
[05:48] <discord> do I have to recompile my kernel to get my pcmcia card working?
[05:48] <darkaudit> IIIEARS: first, you don't need file-roller... it's dpkg -i
[05:48] <pixil9> Has anyone here used zoph?
[05:49] <meng> and people wonder why ubuntu isn't widely used.....
[05:49] <IIIEARS> frank - aw frank thats too easy - lol - you might guess i am new to linux eh?
[05:49] <FR500> i have cacti on one pc for network monitoring, what do i need in each pc, snmp or snmpd?
[05:49] <burner> it might be nice to have an app to use to open .deb files with, but dpkg -i works
[05:50] <frank_> IIIEARS, everyone was a newbie once
[05:50] <burner> open .deb with "xterm -e "dpkg -i $1"" ??
[05:50] <burner> i was thinking there's gotta be some easy scripting like way to do that
[05:50] <IIIEARS> something like this dpkg >> configure >> make >> make install - ?
[05:51] <burner> ?
[05:51] <frank_> IIIEARS, ?
[05:51] <FR500> can anyone help me?
[05:51] <darkaudit> nearly midnight... bedtime for bozo
[05:51] <burner> FR500, no idea on snmp
[05:51] <IIIEARS> lol - it isn't easy being green - grin
[05:51] <brazmetal> burner, xmms-volnorm? what is it for? to normalize the volume of the songs? I don't need that..
[05:51] <IIIEARS> Thank You :)
[05:52] <burner> brazmetal, what were you looking for then?
[05:52] <frank_> np
[05:52] <burner> brazmetal, apt-cache search xmms
[05:52] <FR500> burner, thanks anyway
[05:52] <Sim2> hi
[05:53] <Sim2> can someone help me out with forwarding localhost:26 to smtp.gmail.com:465 with stunnel so I can get ssl wrappers?
[05:53] <Sim2> i want postfix'x smtp client to use stunnel when a mail is defined in the transport map to go outside the domain.
[05:53] <discord> I thought hoary had wireless covered
[05:53] <discord> guess not
[05:53] <brazmetal> burner, I was looking for a plugin to stream audio...
[05:54] <bur[n] er> hoary works with wireless... doesn't do wpa and it doesn't show you networks around you
[05:54] <bur[n] er> brazmetal: icecast.org
[05:54] <lamont> Sim2: define a new transport that uses the pipe mailer to shove it down stunnel
[05:54] <lamont> and make that the default transport
[05:54] <bur[n] er> xmms-liveice and icecast-server
[05:54] <discord> doesnt work with the two cards I have
[05:54] <dazed> discord: it works with wireless and so does warty...you just have to install your own drivers with ndiswrapper if its not a linux chipset
[05:54] <discord> looks like ill have to
[05:55] <discord> recompile my kernel
[05:55] <discord> i dont know anyone that
[05:55] <Sim2> lamont, what would it look like in inetd.conf as the forwarding rule?
[05:55] <dazed> discord: your blowing things outta porportion
[05:55] <discord> uses the ndiswrapper with prism2 cards
[05:55] <dazed> what kind of wifi cards do you have?
[05:55] <discord> prism2 cards are pretty standard
[05:55] <discord> some of the first chipset
[05:55] <dazed> do u know the chipset they use?
[05:55] <discord> they make 2 drivers for the prism2 chipset
[05:56] <Sim2> smtps stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/stunnel -v3 -rlocalhost:25
[05:56] <discord> hostap
[05:56] <discord> and wlan-ng
[05:56] <Sim2> err something like that
[05:56] <dazed> alright get them and ndiswrapper....
[05:56] <discord> neither of which are included with
[05:56] <Sim2> s/25/26
[05:56] <lamont> Sim2: /etc/postfix/master.cf, see master(5)
[05:56] <bet0x> hi all people
[05:56] <bur[n] er> discord: linux-wlan-ng
[05:56] <discord> bullshit
[05:56] <discord> someone
[05:56] <bet0x> How i automount a partition
[05:56] <lamont> Sim2: and pipe(8postfix)
[05:56] <membreya> installed a new module, how would I go about reinstalling the nvidia drivers?
[05:56] <dazed> discord: try typing things on 1 line makes things easier to read
[05:56] <discord> they should be part of ubuntu
[05:56] <membreya> erm, installed a new kernel even
[05:57] <Sim2> thanks, let me take a look
[05:57] <dazed> discord: thats like saying all distros should be created around ur hardware
[05:57] <XplOzIon> Hello All
[05:57] <transgress> anyone know why i can get sound from everything except kaffeine... and kaffeine is the only thing that will play dvd's w/o freezing...
[05:57] <bur[n] er> well... wireless networking drivers is pretty important
[05:57] <bur[n] er> you can't download other stuff without network
[05:57] <discord> no im just saying that ubuntu should support the prism2 chipset since it is one of the most widley available chipsets
[05:58] <brazmetal> does someone here stream via Icecast/shoutcast?
[05:58] <dazed> if you have a wireless network im sure theres a lan port relatively close that u can click into
[05:58] <discord> all they had to do was include some modules with the distro
[05:58] <bur[n] er> not always... but yeah... prism2's are so prominent
[05:58] <dazed> broadcom is probably one of the broadest chipsets and its not included...its a easy task to ndiswrapper a drvier i dunno why its such a big deal to u
[05:58] <smouche> soundcards, wireless and 3d seem to be the big three problems with hardware compatibility -- you either get lucky, or you have to get to work
[05:58] <smouche> to get it all to work...
[05:59] <bur[n] er> discord: linux-wlan-ng was included here
[05:59] <discord> ?
[05:59] <bur[n] er> i didn't apt-get it and i have it
[05:59] <discord> which modules do you have
[05:59] <dazed> took me maybe 5 minutes to config my wireless card
[05:59] <bur[n] er> hrm
[05:59] <bur[n] er> not sure
[05:59] <amonkey> what's the /dev/ address of my serial port?
[05:59] <transgress> bleh i still need to write to do billing but i would really rather write a wiki doc
[05:59] <discord> I found this module
[05:59] <XplOzIon> brazmetal, i do stream from soutcast
[05:59] <discord> /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/wlan-ng # lsp80211.ko
[05:59] <XplOzIon> shoutcast**
[06:00] <discord> but that doesnt seem to be the driver i dont know what it is
[06:00] <brazmetal> XplOzIon, and what's the program you use to encoder ?
[06:00] <Sim2> lamont, can i pm you for just a sec?
[06:00] <brazmetal> XplOzIon, sc_trans ?
[06:00] <burner> /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/prism2/prism2_usb.ko
[06:00] <burner> /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/prism54/prism54.ko
[06:01] <pixil9> What's a good webmail setup?
[06:01] <XplOzIon> brazmetal, dont know really, bmp just plays it
[06:01] <Sim2> i thought i had to just change the relay to localhost:<someport>
[06:01] <Sim2> then it would just be forwarded to someplace:465
[06:02] <brazmetal> XplOzIon,  bmp ?
[06:02] <XplOzIon> brazmetal, beep media player
[06:02] <brazmetal> XplOzIon, how do you "transport" the sound to the shoutcast?
[06:02] <lamont> Sim2: sure
[06:02] <burner> it's xmms based on gtk2
[06:03] <membreya> ive done a sudo apt-get remove nvidia and nvidia-settings and reinstalled them whilst running the new kernel, yet sudo modprobe nvidia says it's not found
[06:03] <membreya> :|
[06:03] <brazmetal> XplOzIon, but how? xmms just plays songs...
[06:03] <burner> brazmetal, use xmms-liveice and icecast-server
[06:03] <discord> unfortunatly those prism2 modules do not support the prism2 pcmcia cards
[06:03] <burner> prism2_pcmcia
[06:04] <brazmetal> burner, I'm using shoutcast... I can't put icecast working
[06:04] <dazed> how do u change ur smb workgroup?
[06:04] <XplOzIon> brazmetal, beep media player (bmp) its like xmms (and some may say way better) and it streams from shoutcast from default instalation
[06:04] <discord> yeah i dont see a prism2_pcmcia module
[06:04] <abinadid> anybody running xlink kai ???? some help
[06:04] <brazmetal> XplOzIon, the package name iso bmp ?
[06:05] <brazmetal> XplOzIon, isn't it a plugin that Bmp uses?
[06:05] <transgress> grar at things that don't list their licenses where i can find them
[06:05] <membreya> are there restricted modules available for amdk8 2.6.11 ?
[06:05] <XplOzIon> brazmetal, yeah, it installed from a script that its posted on www.ubuntuforums.org
[06:06] <XplOzIon> brazmetal, none of the plugins in bmp says its for streaming =/
[06:06] <XplOzIon> brazmetal, let me check for the url of it
[06:06] <dazed> how do u change ur smb workgroup?
[06:07] <pixil9> dazed: I'd suggest installing swat and going from there.
[06:08] <pixil9> dazed: basically install it with synaptic then goto http://localhost:901
[06:08] <dazed> pixil9: thanks...it was sooo much easier on warty
[06:08] <pixil9> ah i never used warty
[06:08] <dazed> ahh ok
[06:08] <pixil9> i went slack freebsd debian ubuntu
[06:08] <pixil9> heh
[06:08] <XplOzIon> brazmetal, here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22646 you may find most of the usefull/best apps used
[06:08] <XplOzIon> brazmetal, i hope that shoul help you
[06:08] <dazed> it was in net-admin on warty...they took it out in hoary
[06:08] <Sim2> sorry for the pm.. i thought "sure" meant something else
[06:09] <transgress> does kubuntu come with gnome and kde?
[06:09] <membreya> transgress: kde only
[06:09] <membreya> hence the K
[06:10] <transgress> membreya: well it didn't quite make it clear on the site...
[06:10] <transgress> i should've gone with kubuntu heh... i do prefer kde somewhat... but oh well... do me good to go for a change
[06:10] <Tuxicity> Should I mount my 2nd HDD in /mnt or in /media ?
[06:10] <pixil9> cool gnomebaker.. been looking for a damn cd burning program
[06:10] <pixil9> Tuxicity, wherever the hell you want.. mine is /winxp
[06:11] <Tuxicity> What's the difference between /mnt and /media?
[06:11] <FR500> is anyone using snmp on a linux machine?
[06:11] <XplOzIon> Anyone know how to install bmp-docklet-1.2 plugin?? i cant install it...
[06:11] <pixil9> Tuxicity, Nothing. They're called "directories"
[06:11] <dazed> Tuxicity: they are just mounting directories...you cant mount anywhere not just those 2 places
[06:11] <HrdwrBoB> media makes more sense
[06:12] <membreya> pixil9: k3b is so much better
[06:12] <FR500> XplOzIon, you need to apt-get the dependencies dpkg tells you to
[06:12] <dazed> k3b owns
[06:12] <dazed> all
[06:12] <scott> anyone had problems installing gnome icon themes on hoary? I install them and they show up in the menu but when I select them they don't take effect
[06:13] <pixil9> membreya, for burning?
[06:13] <scorpix_> when i try to install mplayer i got this problem
[06:13] <scorpix_> mplayer-custom: Depends: libavcodec2 but it is not installable
[06:13] <dazed> scorpix_: try 'apt-get -f install' to install dependancy packages
[06:14] <scorpix_> dazed: i got the same problem
[06:14] <frank_> is there another mplayer package (non custom)
[06:14] <dazed> scorpix_: try this for me 'sudo apt-get install libavcodec2'
[06:14] <scorpix_> yes
[06:15] <pixil9> membreya, Will it work with gnome?
[06:15] <jay> help: GNOME works like crap on my dual displays.... it's recognizing it as one BIG display. is there any workaround for this?
[06:15] <XplOzIon> FR500, i actually havent do anything. I mean like what file i need to open? wich file tells me that i need the dependences?
[06:15] <scorpix_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:15] <scorpix_>   libavcodec2: Depends: libvorbis0a (>= 1.1.0) but 1.0.1-1 is to be installed
[06:15] <scorpix_>                Depends: libvorbisenc2 (>= 1.1.0) but 1.0.1-1 is to be installed
[06:16] <membreya> pixil9: yes it will
[06:16] <dazed> well you can download each individual package if -f install isnt working or you can do a dif. mplayer package
[06:16] <dazed> scorpix_: if your using synaptic it should auto select dependencies
[06:17] <chombee> I don't suppose anyone know how to make SoundJuicer rip faster? It's excruciatingly slow on every machine I've tried, both Warty and Hoary, and I've never found a solution
[06:17] <pixil9> membreya, ok thx
[06:17] <chombee> I turned paranoia down to 0 and managed to get it up to 3.0x, but that's all
[06:18] <corvus_> Hope this isn't a stupid question, but is there a gui utility to allow for the listing and stopping of running processess?
[06:18] <kkathman> greetings all :)
[06:18] <frank_> streamtuner ROCKS!
[06:18] <scorpix_> dazed: the same with synaptic
[06:18] <scorpix_> how can i play dvds without mplayer?
[06:18] <Tuxicity> corvus_, System Monitor in Applicatioins --> System tools
[06:18] <scorpix_> i have xine installed and libdvdcss2
[06:18] <XplOzIon> scorpix_, xine-ui - The xine video player, user interface for playing dvd's and such
[06:18] <leek`_-> can someone help me with what would seem to be a simple problem? - im trying to change my resolution but the highest option i have is 1024x768
[06:19] <dazed> scorpix_: odd must not have all your repos open then or something...and xine-ui plays dvds
[06:19] <meng> mess around with xorg.connf?
[06:19] <leek`_-> meng, yea i added the higher res' tot xorg.conf
[06:19] <kkathman> leek`_: during the install, did you select the various resolutions you could use?
[06:20] <leek`_-> kkathman, during installation i wasnt asked, but i have added them to my xorg.conf
[06:20] <kkathman> leek`_- I assume you tried right clicking the desktop, going to configure and choosing the display?
[06:20] <corvus_> Tuxicity, you rule, thanks :)
[06:20] <kkathman> leek`_- or used the system tools to change your resolution
[06:21] <leek`_-> yea from the system tools 1024x768 is the highest it goes
[06:21] <leek`_-> rightclicking desktop doesnt give me any configuring options
[06:21] <chombee> leek - did you just upgrade to hoary?
[06:21] <Tuxicity> corvus_, np:)
[06:21] <frank_> leek`_-, need to modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:21] <kkathman> leek`_- sorry I was thinking KDE
[06:21] <leek`_-> chombee, i just did a fresh install of whatever the latest version is
[06:21] <leek`_-> frank_, what else do i need to modify in xorg.conf ?
[06:22] <kkathman> leek`_- check with your monitor specs and be sure you have the appropriate match between resolutions and the sync frequencies too
[06:22] <leek`_-> kkathman, im not exactly sure what that means or how i could go about doing that
[06:23] <leek`_-> kkathman, i just know 1600x1200 works on windows and i want it on here
[06:23] <frank_> leek`_-, The resolutions and the display specs  HorixFreg, VertSync
[06:23] <kkathman> leek`_- in your xorg.conf you have resolutions and you have horiz and vert frequencies...some resolutions require or allow certain frequencies while others do not...check the specs that came with your monitor/panel
[06:24] <chombee> Am I going crazy? Am I the only Ubuntu user who has noticed it takes an hour to rip a CD??
[06:24] <leek`_-> kkathman, my xorg.conf doesnt contain anything about horz or vert frequencies, should it?
[06:24] <burner> chombee, turn off the error checking in grip
[06:24] <kkathman> leek`_- it should I believe
[06:25] <frank_> leek`_-, In some section its there
[06:25] <leek`_-> frank_, its actually not, 1 sec while i upload my xorg.conf
[06:25] <frank_> Generic Monitor or somethin
[06:25] <CitizenKane> if anyone has installed the linux version of wolfenstein enemy territory you might be able to help me
[06:26] <kkathman> leek`_- try this maube this will help:  http://www.x.org/X11R6.8.2/doc/xorg.conf.5.html
[06:26] <brazmetal> XplOzIon, hey.. it's no working... I'm using bmp + shoutcast.... and there's no audio stream :(
[06:26] <pixil9> How can i find out which packages I don't need?
[06:26] <frank_> leek`_-, Section Monitor
[06:26] <pixil9> deborphan isn't doing shit
[06:26] <leek`_-> frank_, http://www.nomorepasting.com/paste.php?pasteID=37997
[06:26] <leek`_-> kkathman, i will check it out
[06:27] <leek`_-> frank_, am i retarded?
[06:27] <XplOzIon> brazmetal, hmmm its weird, when you click on the "link" it says that it will be opened by bmp by default?
[06:27] <chombee> burner - disable paranoia?
[06:28] <brazmetal> XplOzIon, man, did you understand what I want to do? I want to stream audio, not to listen to stream...
[06:29] <brazmetal> XplOzIon, I want to provide a radio, not listening to...
[06:29] <XplOzIon> brazmetal, oh im sorry man! i miss understand you! =(
[06:30] <brazmetal> eheheheheh
[06:30] <brazmetal> :(
[06:30] <brazmetal> so again..
[06:30] <XplOzIon> brazmetal, my bad man. But hey isnt there a linux version of the shoutcast-server ?
[06:30] <brazmetal> XplOzIon, yes, I'm using it
[06:31] <brazmetal> XplOzIon, but we need the encoder...
[06:31] <brazmetal> A program "make" the stream.... shoutcast is just a server
[06:33] <discord> you fools dont know a damn thing about wireless
[06:33] <pixil9> That's because I live in northern russia and we just got got pentium 2s
[06:33] <pixil9> no wireless for years :(
[06:35] <HillTop> I just upgraded my Warty to Hoary and a lot of things don't really work. For starters, how do I play a music CD. I put it in and thought in Warty it launched xmms I think. Now nothing. Can't play a wav file on my music CD??
[06:35] <crimsun> HillTop: it should start the gnome cd player
[06:35] <Tuxicity> HillTop, use the CD player
[06:35] <brazmetal> does someone here stream audio via Icecast/shoutcast?
[06:36] <bet0x> hey how i see my all scsi stuff?
[06:36] <bet0x> hi crimsun 3733t helper
[06:36] <crimsun> brazmetal: I do
[06:36] <crimsun> 'lo bet0x
[06:37] <bet0x> lo?
[06:37] <HillTop> I hit the file browser and right click on a selection - play with xmms - can't read it.
[06:37] <crimsun> bet0x: [hel] lo
[06:37] <brazmetal> crimsun, icecast ou shoutcast?
[06:37] <CitizenKane> if anyone has installed the linux version of wolfenstein enemy territory i could use some help
[06:37] <crimsun> brazmetal: ices2->icecast2
[06:37] <bet0x> crimsun, how i see my scsi stuff
[06:37] <brazmetal> :(
[06:37] <crimsun> bet0x: could you rephrase please?