[01:10] <capum321> does mate comes with a c compiler?
[01:36] <Astro7467> yes, gcc
[01:37] <Astro7467> ^ capum321
[01:37] <capum321> guess it doesn't. cause i just installed it
[01:38] <capum321> Astro7467: do you copy?
[11:27] <nazareno> Hi, I would need to know if with ubuntu-mate for raspberry pi 3 you can install the same programs as on a common computer
[11:32] <nazareno> Or if it depends on ARM architecture
[11:35] <crankypuss> nazareno, the install iso should be chosen based on architecture, it will set up the appropriate repo, then you install programs as usual from the repo.  i know nothing about raspberry pi.
[11:37] <nazareno> crankypuss: ok, thanks!
[12:56] <hetii> Hello :)
[13:27] <ouroumov> hello hetii
[15:45] <vishnupc> Does ubuntu mate support MTP ?
[19:31] <aconitum> i have 2 displays (laptop display and external display), but have configured to use only external display. after turning on my system, login window will be displayed on my laptop display. how can I change this, so the login window will be displayed on my external display?
[19:31] <ozcurious> straggling to figure out how to change password, help please
[19:32] <Akuli> ozcurious, sudo passwd yourusername
[19:32] <ozcurious> one sec
[19:34] <aconitum> i have 16.04 lts
[19:35] <Akuli> aconitum, this seems to be the right thing, but maybe a bit advanced https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LightDM#LightDM_displaying_in_wrong_monitor
[19:35] <ozcurious> worked like a charm! thanks much Akuli)
[19:37] <alkisg> aconitum: I tried setting up a lightdm.conf for that, but wasn't successful; so what did the trick was creating a xorg.conf
[19:37] <Akuli> alkisg, https://xkcd.com/963/
[19:38] <alkisg> aconitum: this is the xorg.conf that I used; if you want, use google translate on that post...
[19:38] <alkisg> Akuli: haha, I hadn't seen that one :D
[19:38] <alkisg> Too true!
[19:38] <alkisg> http://alkisg.mysch.gr/steki/index.php?topic=5220.msg79699#msg79699
[19:41] <alkisg> Btw, I've tried both calling xrandr from lightdm.conf and generating a monitors.xml in lightdm's home dir; both didn't work in 16.04... :-/ So, xorg.conf ftw!
[19:41] <aconitum> alkisg, i have /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf I guess that is a file I need
[19:43] <alkisg> aconitum: so what I said is, don't bother with lightdm
[19:44] <alkisg> If you want to try it, ask Akuli  :)
[19:44] <alkisg> My tries there didn't bear any fruit...
[19:44] <alkisg> And xorg.conf worked fine for everything, lightdm, all desktop environments etc
[19:44] <Akuli> i know nothing, i just googled and found the wiki page :)
[19:45] <aconitum> alkisg, so I just add xorg.conf to /etc/lightdm/ ?
[19:47] <aconitum> or to /etc/X11 ?
[19:48] <Akuli> at least not /etc/lightdm, i'm not sure if it goes to /etc/X11 or somewhere else
[19:57] <aconitum> Akuli, ok, made that file; now fingers crossed
[19:57] <Akuli> alright :) do you know how to log in if the gui doesn't load?
[19:58] <Akuli> press ctrl+alt+f1, you'll end up with a terminal-only login screen, ctrl+alt+f7 or f8 to get back
[19:59] <aconitum> Akuli, tnx for advice
[20:13] <aconitum> Akuli, that xorg.conf didn't do the job :(
[20:13] <Akuli> what did you put there?
[20:14] <Akuli> i guess xrandr should show you which screen id you need to use
[20:14] <Akuli> instead of alkisg's DP-1 and HDMI-1
[20:16] <aconitum> i put this: http://alkisg.mysch.gr/steki/index.php?topic=5220.msg79699#msg79699
[20:21] <Akuli> i think you need to replace DP-1 with your monitor's id
[20:21] <Akuli> alkisg probably knows more
[20:23] <aconitum> xandr: https://pastebin.com/uKsjbugL
[20:23] <aconitum> xrandr: https://pastebin.com/uKsjbugL
[20:25] <Akuli> any idea which of these is which?
[20:26] <Akuli> replace alkisg's DP-1 and HDMI-1 with VGA-0 and LVDS-0
[20:31] <aconitum> replaced, but it didn't help
[20:34] <Akuli> i think he replaced them the wrong way
[20:34] <Akuli> anyway he quit lol :)
[20:36] <alkisg> Whoops
[20:36] <alkisg> Yeah he needed to replace them as you said
[20:38] <Akuli> welcome bacl aconitum :)
[20:39] <aconitum> Akuli, replaced as you advised and it helped :) Thanks!
[20:39] <Akuli> great! :D
[20:39] <aconitum> no I only have my system font a bit smaller ;)
[20:39] <aconitum> *now
[20:40] <Akuli> i'm pretty sure there's a gui setting thing for that
[20:40] <Akuli> if you mean the font that the login window uses
[20:41] <aconitum> no, not login window; even HexChat's menus have smaller font
[20:43] <aconitum> solved
[20:44] <ozcurious> Akuli: after i successfully changed the password i was no longer able to login after logoff and reboot, so had to rebuild, any more guidance on that?
[20:45] <ozcurious> i had do terminate and rebuild
[20:46] <Akuli> no idea what's going on with that, what do you mean terminate and rebuild?
[20:47] <ozcurious> well, it's a new free Ubuntu desktop anywhere
[20:47] <ozcurious> and it comes with public uid and password
[20:48] <ozcurious> so i am trying to change that password so that noone can access it but me, and after i changed i can't even access it myself
[20:48] <Akuli> ozcurious, are you running from a usb stick or did you already install it? also what do you mean terminate and rebuild?
[20:49] <ozcurious> i am running from AWS E2C or something
[20:49] <ozcurious> so i just created a new instance in replacement of the first new
[20:52] <Akuli> new instance of what
[20:52] <ozcurious> if virtual aws cloud desktop i guess
[20:52] <ozcurious> *a
[20:52] <Akuli> i have no idea what that is
[20:53] <ozcurious> do you want to login and check it out?
[20:53] <Akuli> not really
[20:53] <ozcurious> and maybe you manage to change the password)
[20:53] <Akuli> hmm sure why not
[20:56] <ozcurious> it's <IP_ADDRESS> dauser/pass1234, try to change and reboot and please email me to let me know if it worked for you and what the new one is at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[20:57] <ozcurious> i have to lget out as i am in it now, the only way to get online from work, except for the phone
[20:57] <ozcurious> ok?
[20:58] <Akuli> is this ssh?
[20:58] <ozcurious> i think simple RDP would work, not sure of ssh, probably not
[20:58] <Akuli> whats rdp
[20:58] <Akuli> like which port do i connect to with what program
[20:59] <ozcurious> remote desktop connect?
[20:59] <Akuli> how do i do it
[20:59] <ozcurious> should i run ipconfig to see the port?
[20:59] <Akuli> i don't care, which program do i use to connect?!
[21:00] <ozcurious> i have RDP on windows, that i use
[21:00] <Akuli> ok
[21:00] <ozcurious> not sure how to figure the port..., probably default, i haven't changed anything
[21:00] <ozcurious> logging off
[21:02] <jacky> Hi guys, is there a simple way to install win7 over ubuntu or kinda dual boot? like.. an idiot safe way? :D
[21:02] <Akuli> jacky, i can try my best tomorrow, don't have time right now
[21:02] <jacky> ah no prob, have to work the weekend anyway :) i just realized ubuntu wont play the win 7 cd :D
[21:02] <Akuli> maybe about 4 hours earlier than its now?
[21:02] <jacky> haha :D
[21:03] <Akuli> it's a bit harder than you might think
[21:03] <Akuli> first we need to make ubuntu smaller to give room to it
[21:03] <Akuli> then we'll install windows 7
[21:03] <Akuli> then we'll make ubuntu boot too
[21:03] <jacky> i have to kinda make ntfs space i guess
[21:03] <Akuli> empty space is enough, windows can make the ntfs
[21:03] <jacky> well if it needs time, imma ask somewhen else i think :D
[21:08] <Akuli> yeah sure
[21:29] <simon> hiya folks, wondering if somebody could help me out with a chromium issue on a fresh arm install
[21:29] <simon> every page shows the aw snap error!
[23:14] <swift110> hey all


[13:40] <paulliu> charles_: Can I get the rotation_lock by dbus methods from /com/canonical/indicator/rotation_lock ?
[14:46] <paulliu> charles_: the rotation_lock seems to be a gsettings. Can you also export it to the dbus interface so we can access it?
[14:46] <paulliu> charles_: For testing.
[14:49] <charles> paulliu, I can do that, but I think you may be able to pull directly from the gsettings if you're wanting to test it in qml
[14:49] <paulliu> charles: no. I'm writing the autopilot test.
[14:50] <paulliu> charles: we want to use the autopilot to turn on/off the indicators rotation lock. And see if it did changes the real gsettings.
[14:50] <charles> paulliu, ack
[14:53] <charles> paulliu, I don't mind adding that to the rotation indiator, but just to make sure it's the right thing, why are you wanting to query this via dbus?
[14:53] <charles> eg if you want to verify the gsettings independently you can do it from the command line with "gsettings get com.ubuntu.touch.system rotation-lock"
[14:54] <elopio> Good morning team.
[14:59] <paulliu> charles: ok. I'll use the command line.
[15:01] <charles> paulliu, ack
[15:29] <paulliu> charles: when I turn on/off the Rotation Lock, it didn't change the value of com.ubuntu.touch.system rotation-lock value.
[15:30]  * charles looks
[15:31] <charles> paulliu, wfm
[15:32] <charles> paulliu, I pulled down the rotation lock indicator's menu and toggled the "Rotation Lock" menuitem
[15:32] <charles> paulliu, repeatedly doing that + querying "gsettings get com.ubuntu.touch.system rotation-lock" gives me true, false, true, false as expected
[15:33] <paulliu> charles: ok. Maybe something weird on my phone.
[15:33] <charles> paulliu, you're running "gsettings get" in the phablet-shell session? :)
[15:34] <paulliu> charles: yes
[15:42] <paulliu> elopio: can you test if the fixtures works?
[15:42] <paulliu> elopio: my phone dies.
[15:43] <elopio> paulliu: sure. Same branch?
[15:43] <paulliu> elopio: yes
[15:43] <paulliu> elopio:  just pull
[15:46] <elopio> paulliu: I get self.assertEqual(fixture._is_rotation_lock_enabled(), True)
[15:46] <elopio> testtools.matchers._impl.MismatchError: False != True
[15:47] <paulliu> elopio: yeah. I got the same. So if you turn on/off the rotation lock, is "gsettings get com.ubuntu.touch.system rotation-lock" shows the same value?
[15:48] <paulliu> elopio: before my phone dies, I cannot get the correct value by gsettings. But charles can.
[15:49] <elopio> paulliu: no, it doesn't matter the state of the checkbox, it always returns false
[15:49] <paulliu> charles: ^
[15:49] <elopio> also, the indicator icon is not being shown when I click the checkbox. Something stoped working.
[15:50] <charles> ...?
[15:50]  * charles re-tests
[15:50] <elopio> gsettings set com.ubuntu.touch.system rotation-lock true does work.
[15:52] <charles> okay so score 1 for testing
[15:53] <elopio> \o/
[15:53] <charles> this is working for me on 14.10 (krillin r191), but when I switch to 15.04 (mako r64) I get a consistent 'false'
[15:53] <paulliu> charles: it's weird.. Just gsettings..
[15:54] <charles> my first guess is that an indicator-display branch landed in 14.10 but not 15.04; if so that's an oversight
[15:54] <charles> previously uss had a different key and then went with 'rotation-lock' in the gsettings, there was a branch to switch to that in indicator-display. maybe that didn't land in trunk for the 15.04 images
[15:54] <charles> checking
[15:55] <elopio> I can use the checkbox to disable the lock. Not to enable it.
[15:56] <charles> no... no code changes between the two branches
[15:56] <paulliu> elopio: so for the test we might want to do that twice..
[15:57] <paulliu> elopio: if we change to test in the reverse order, I wonder the code will pass.
[15:57] <elopio> paulliu: we can't automate at this level if there is an error.
[15:57] <charles> no, this is broken, we shouldn't write the test to work around that
[15:57] <elopio> what we do is report a bug, and put a skip with a link to that bug.
[15:57] <charles> +1
[15:58] <paulliu> ok.
[15:58] <elopio> and make a comment on the bug report to reenable the test once it's fixed.
[15:58] <elopio> paulliu: your fixture looks awesome.
[15:58] <elopio> a couple of details.
[15:58] <elopio> paulliu: for the moment, we should make the helpers compatible also with py2.
[15:58] <paulliu> elopio: ok
[15:59] <elopio> so when calling super, you need to use the old style. like super(IndicatorDisplayRotationLock, self).__init__()
[15:59] <charles> paulliu, elopio, I have a meeting right now but I'll triage this right afterwards
[15:59] <elopio> charles: thanks.
[15:59] <charles> paulliu, elopio, please paste the bug url here
[16:00] <elopio> paulliu: second, I think that we should have only one fixture_setup class. I would move the unity8/shell/fixture_setup.py to unity8/fixture_setup.py and put the one you added new there.
[16:00] <elopio> what do you think about that?
[16:01] <paulliu> elopio: ok.
[16:04] <paulliu> elopio: btw, are you testing that on rtm?
[16:05] <elopio> paulliu: no, I'm on vivid, krillin.
[16:58] <alesage> elopio, I'm reviewing the make qmltest, might need you to lead me into this a little
[16:59] <elopio> alesage: sure
[16:59] <elopio> the easiest way to test it that I have found is bzr bd. Then install the built packages and open qtcreator to make projects with the templates.
[16:59] <alesage> elopio, ok sure
[17:00] <alesage> elopio, so this is a dumb question but how do I see the existing template?  it's just the default dummy project, yes?
[17:00] <elopio> alesage: I don't get your question. How to create a project from the template?
[17:01] <alesage> elopio, more like "what is a template"
[17:01] <elopio> alesage: when you open qtcreator, you will see a page called ubuntu-sdk
[17:02] <elopio> from that page click the link create a new project
[17:02] <elopio> there you will see the templates, in the Ubuntu section.
[17:02] <alesage> elopio, k I see
[17:02] <elopio> alesage: on the branch, you will see many wizard.xml files
[17:03] <elopio> that's what makes the templates appear here, and what tells qtcreator which files to copy into the new project.
[17:04] <alesage> elopio, so you modified "App with Simple UI"?
[17:05] <elopio> alesage: I modified many.
[17:05] <elopio> I changed the default main file from main.qml to Main.qml in all templates.
[17:06] <alesage> elopio, ok slowly dawning on self over here
[17:14] <elfy> balloons: \o/ thanks for talking to IS
[17:16] <balloons> elfy, no problem.. all appears well now
[17:18] <elfy> yep
[17:31] <elopio> rhuddie: ping, meeting.
[17:47] <elopio> paulliu: have you filed the bug, or do you want me to do it?
[18:02] <paulliu> elopio: I'll do it.
[18:03] <elopio> paulliu: thanks.
[18:03] <elopio> balloons: if you want to review the template branch, feel free. The more the merrier.
[18:04] <elopio> I'm going for lunch.
[18:11] <paulliu> elopio: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-display/+bug/1410915
[18:12] <paulliu> charles: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-display/+bug/1410915
[18:12] <charles> paulliu, ty
[18:26] <dkessel> good evening. looks like half the ubuntu world is subscribed to bug 1268257 :D I have never seen a bug with a heat of > 10000
[18:49] <balloons> dkessel, ;-)
[18:49] <balloons> evening to you as well
[18:53] <dkessel> evening balloons :) Let me motivate myself by telling you that I will be looking at the qa tracker code again in a few minutes
[18:54] <dkessel> lightdm in vivid is still failing for me BTW :p
[18:54] <balloons> dkessel, oO. I think we nailed the last snafu of the rebuild yesterday by getting bug numbers showing again
[18:54] <balloons> and yea, vivid is having some fun. There's a keyboard input install bug as well
[20:25] <Letozaf_> balloons, hi, did you see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseSchedule  is still on Ubuntu 14.10 schedule ?
[20:25] <balloons> Letozaf_, ? what do you mean?
[20:26] <Letozaf_> balloons, shouldn't there be the release schedule of 15.04 ?
[20:26] <balloons> Letozaf_, yes. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseSchedule
[20:26] <Letozaf_> balloons, this one ends October 2014
[20:26] <balloons> let me fix the wiki too
[20:32] <balloons> Letozaf_, wiki and calendar all fixed, thanks for noticing :-)
[20:32] <Letozaf_> balloons, yw :)
[20:56] <dkessel> balloons, knome: here is some progress on the qa tracker changes after two months of no progress: https://imgur.com/9561kt0
[20:56] <dkessel> (a bit hacky)
[20:59]  * balloons looks
[20:59] <elfy> so did elfy
[20:59] <balloons> nice
[20:59] <elfy> I like
[20:59] <balloons> ^^ me too
[21:00] <elfy> ha - that'll be snap then :)
[21:00] <elfy> anything that means people don't have to mouseover 70 little icons to find a bug works for me
[21:00] <elfy> though it is likely to make the test page looooong I guess
[21:03] <elfy> it needs more than critical bugs imo
[21:03] <elfy> and is status/importance.assignee of any interest at this point
[21:04] <elfy> maybe a table with bug number and title and perhaps a repeated column so
[21:04] <elfy> bug - title | bug - title | bug - title
[21:04] <elfy> just a thought :)
[21:53]  * dkessel keeps elfy's suggestions for the next tracker hack evening
[21:58] <knome> elfy, that'd make it harder to read, i prefer one bug per line
[21:58] <knome> could have checkboxes to filter out different statues though
[21:58] <elfy> knome: yes - but would you like the testcase page to be really looooooooooooooong
[21:58] <knome> sure, but with filters, it's doable
[21:59] <knome> and we can work on the listing to make each row less tall
[21:59] <elfy> you'd have to page down past 30 or more bugs - then lines and lines of text - and then finally somewhere to report
[22:00] <elfy> filter out kylin


[12:39] <mick0> davidcalle: Can a scope get the categories that a lens uses or do I need to check the code of the lens and hope it does not change?
[12:40] <mick0> davidcalle: For example albums in the music lens seems to be category 1.
[12:40] <davidcalle> mick0, good question, let me check something.
[12:58] <davidcalle> mick0, there is certainly a way, but I don't see how to get it. mhr3, any idea on how to check a lens categories from a scope?
[13:01] <mick0> davidcalle: ok.
[13:11] <mhr3> yea, you can't really
[13:11] <mhr3> davidcalle, ^^
[13:11]  * davidcalle stops trying
[13:11] <davidcalle> Thanks :)
[13:11] <mhr3> since scopes are "plugins" for lenses, i dont see it necessary
[13:14] <davidcalle> I agree. Scopes are individually designed to fit in a specific lens architecture.
[13:16] <mick0> Seems reasonable :) Thanks
[14:12] <mick0> Got a spotify scope to work with the music lens :) Now to fix album art, filters and correct linkage to the spotify client.
[14:20] <davidcalle> mick0, nice :)
[14:20] <davidcalle> mick0, So, you can start the client on a specific song?
[14:24] <mick0> davidcalle: yes. Or show an album, or show an artist
[14:24] <mick0> depending on what you click
[18:49] <mick0> Does not lenses for unity in oneric support icons (in model.append...) defined as URLs which was grabbed as done before?