[00:00] <kboodu> It blocked something
[00:00] <lauratika> yes!, i recently installed as today.
[00:00] <lauratika> but the issue happens way before...
[00:00] <kboodu> so is there something common to this reboot and previous ones?
[00:01] <lauratika> not really, i mean surfing the net.
[00:01] <lauratika> and scanner and printer are both off
[00:02] <lauratika> it is very weird ubuntu freezes, never saw that before, and in this caes it does that. freez at first like flash is crashing, then turn black and then the mmessage then reboots.
[00:03] <kboodu> lauratika: Have you run memtest on the system to make sure you don't have bad RAM?  (How old is the computer?)
[00:03] <korst3n> hi.. i've got 13.04 ISO image. turns out wubi support is dropped from that one. how can I install it alongside windows without usb disk or cd-rom drive, as i lack both?
[00:04] <lauratika> kboodu, pretty know 4 months all, brand new from store. how do i run a memtest?
[00:04] <lauratika> pretty new i mean
[00:04] <kboodu> lauratika: Yep.  Not like my 5-7 year old systems.  ;)
[00:04] <dr_willis> play  eith it in virtualboc perhaps korst3n
[00:04] <dr_willis> virtualbox
[00:04] <kboodu> lauratika: It should be an option in the grub menu.
[00:04] <aXXo> hi
[00:05] <korst3n> dr_willis: that's not really a solution.
[00:05] <lauratika> kboodu: maybe a faulty ram?
[00:05] <aXXo> windows forced faulty ram
[00:05] <dr_willis> korst3n:  i run in vbox all the time.   wubi isent really a sollution either
[00:05] <aXXo> bad os = faulty ram
[00:06] <aXXo> why to run faulty os in vbox? just for fun, because this is not a solution, just for games or not creative persons
[00:07] <kboodu> lauratika: Maybe.  Trying to eliminate possibilities.    And it should run "overnight"
[00:12] <dr_willis> for me  memtest always saw the bad ram within moments of running.
[00:13] <kboodu> dr_willis: Me too...unless it was "boderline"  <sigh>
[00:13] <lauratika> being a bad ram will tell me right, with a message
[00:13] <dr_willis> birght red messages
[00:13] <dr_willis> bright
[00:13] <lauratika> ok, something else i should write down?
[00:13] <dr_willis> i had a bad memory slot
[00:13] <lauratika> so you guys can help
[00:14] <dr_willis> remove clean and reseat the ram   may help also
[00:14] <lauratika> dr_willis: you have to change the pc?
[00:14] <bossman759> Anybody working on Ubuntu mobile phone apps?
[00:14] <kboodu> lauratika: Sometimes memory gets "loose" and needs to be "reseated"
[00:14] <dr_willis> lauratika:  just dident use that ram slot any more
[00:14] <bossman759> I mean Ubuntu Touch
[00:14] <dr_willis> !touch
[00:14]  * kboodu wonders why that happens..and realizes it's heatintg / cooling that's the issue.
[00:15] <dr_willis> its gremlins yanking on the bits
[00:15] <lauratika> ok, so im off to test the ram come back soon... *leaving with tears on each eye*
[00:15] <kboodu> lauratika: Hurry back!  We'll miss you.
[00:15] <kboodu> :)
[00:15] <bossman759> thanks ubottu
[00:16] <lauratika> hold on peeps!
[00:21] <histo> bossman759: ubottu is a bot
[00:25] <philipballew> I want to move my wireless passwords on my Ubuntu machine to my Lubuntu machine. How can I do this?
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> philipballew, Type them in in lubuntu.
[00:27] <justin_> hey, does anyone know a good channel for dns help?
[00:27] <dr_willis> perhaps #networking
[00:28] <justin_> hm, i'll try that
[00:28] <philipballew> wilee-nilee, I have hundreds
[00:36] <histo> philipballew: what do you use to store them?
[00:36] <philipballew> histo, Network Manager? Or whatever default way ubuntu has for them
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> philipballew, If you need more info. http://askubuntu.com/questions/46397/how-to-move-wifi-passwords-to-a-new-installation
[00:42] <lauratika> back!
[00:43] <drekalots> question. I installed ubuntu 13.04 and it's working sans one important detail. It never asked me to set a root password but Ican't edit system files without it...
[00:43] <Triskel> Hello
[00:43] <Triskel> and your user pwd ?
[00:43] <drekalots> doesn't take it..
[00:43] <Triskel> try "sudo su" with your user pwd
[00:43] <kboodu> wb lauratika
[00:44] <drekalots> danke
[00:44] <Triskel> then type "passwd root" to set the root pwd
[00:44] <lauratika> kboodu	: so far no issues on the ram
[00:44] <kboodu> Hmm.  Well, not sure what to say.  Maybe you have an error message that gives more of a clue lauratika
[00:44] <Triskel> somebody know if its possible to disable gpu on a laptop used as a server ?
[00:45] <lauratika> but, now my display shows a black stupid gap on top, only way to fix it is resetting resolution then it fix the gap, but is now everytime reboot
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> Triskel, Ubuntu does not have a root password and it is discouraged here.
[00:46] <drekalots> could someone point me in the best direction for setting up trim for an ssd?
[00:46] <Triskel> wilee-nilee: do you know if its possible to disable gpu on a laptop used as a server ?
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> Triskel, And it is sudo -i check your OS norms
[00:46] <histo> !sudo | drekalots
[00:46] <histo> !root | drekalots
[00:47] <Triskel> -i ? :) and the command before ?
[00:47] <Nmbr1> drekalots: instead of trying to create a root password Ubuntu wants you to just use "sudo" command and type your user password
[00:47] <histo> drekalots: edit /etc/fstab and enable discard as an option for your ssd
[00:47] <Nmbr1> e.g. sudo gedit file.txt
[00:47] <histo> Triskel: why would you disable the gpu?
[00:47] <Triskel> warm, fan noise, energy consumption
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> drekalots, I use this link. https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[00:48] <Triskel> but my main problem is warm/fan
[00:48] <werd> im having trouble installing ubuntu any help
[00:48] <Triskel> its an old laptop
[00:48] <drekalots> wilee-nilee: Thanks.
[00:48] <Nmbr1> drekalots: if you just want a root shell you can always use sudo gnome-terminal (assuming you are using gnome)
[00:48] <histo> Triskel: close the lid
[00:49] <Triskel> if i close the lid, i got a lot of warm :)
[00:49] <histo> Triskel: clean vents
[00:49] <werd> when i try installing ubuntu on my computer in the boot menu a smiley face appears on the command line and my computer freezes
[00:49] <culpn8r> anyone here use ncmpcpp? i have no sound
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> werd, Really where did the install media come from?
[00:50] <histo> Triskel: you could blacklist whatever module it's using but it's still receiving power
[00:50] <Triskel> i should yeah,  and put a new thermal paste
[00:50] <drekalots> wilee-nilee: So I should've used EXT4 it seems...
[00:50] <werd> the website
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> drekalots, What did you use?
[00:50] <histo> Triskel: although mostlikely the gpu is part of your cpu
[00:51] <drekalots> wilee-nilee: I left it at default... is that still EXT3 or did it change to EXT4?
[00:51] <Triskel> its a dedicated radeon ati
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> werd, Never heard of a smiley face, check the sum of the ISO.
[00:51] <werd> how do i do that
[00:51] <Triskel> google say there is a thermal bridge missing in my model
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> drekalots, ext4 is the default, what is the release you have?
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> !sum
[00:51] <drekalots> wilee-nilee: 13.04
[00:51] <Triskel> but atm i dont have really the time to open the laptop and hardwaring/cleaning
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | werd
[00:51] <histo> drekalots: why did you use ext3?
[00:51] <Nmbr1> werd: smiley face at teh command line doesn't sound friendly
[00:52] <drekalots> histo: I left it at default.. so if EXT4 is the default then it should be EXT4.
[00:52] <werd> i even completely wiped the hard drive so i dont think it is a virus
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> werd, Which website?
[00:52] <Triskel> drekalots type "mount" to know
[00:52] <Martijn-NL> Going to sleep. Good night everyone!
[00:52] <werd> ubuntu.com
[00:53] <histo> drekalots: sudo blkid
[00:53] <drekalots> it's EXT4. phew.
[00:54] <histo> Triskel: blacklisting will stop the module from loading
[00:54] <drekalots> wilee-nilee: having an issue with trim though. if i run an fstrim -v / i get an error: fstrim: /home: FITRIM ioctl failed: Operation not supported
[00:54] <histo> drekalots: edit your fstab and add discard tot he options section for it
[00:54] <histo> drekalots: sudo fstrim -v
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> drekalots, You have a separate home?
[00:55] <werd> wilee_nilee, ubuntu.com
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> drekalots, That link addresses a separate home
[00:55] <drekalots> man. i should've manually done the partitioning... i let the install disk do it. why did I do that... I need to go look at fdisk -l and figure this mess out
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> drekalots, the command is sudo fstrim -v /   with the OS in one partition.
[00:56] <drekalots> wilee-nilee: if I run that I get the same error
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> drekalots, DO YOU HAVE A SEPARATE HOME?
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> lol, sorry to yell.
[00:58] <drekalots> wilee-nilee: I let the dang disk do the partitions. I got npo clue what it did.
[00:58]  * drekalots laughs.
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> drekalots, take a screen shot of gparted and imagebin it.
[00:59] <werd> wilee-nilee, any advice for me
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> werd, The face is really weird, in 6 years of using ubuntu and many others I have never seen that, not sure to be honest, other than make sure the ISO is good with a sum check.
[01:01] <drekalots> wilee-nilee: http://imagebin.org/264865
[01:01] <werd> wille-nilee, it is and i also tried mint and raspian all did the same thing
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> honestly I would have top see it to belive it.
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> to*
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> drekalots, Those commands are from a running OS.
[01:03] <drekalots> wilee-nilee: I'm using the machine... yes.
[01:03]  * drekalots thinks Gentoo was easier.
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> drekalots, heh, gentoo, not sure with a lvm
[01:04] <drekalots> wilee-nilee: yea. so i'm stuck on stupid right now... what am I doing wrong...
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> drekalots, No idea I see a red flag on the partition, I'm not sure with gparted and luks, never used it or encrypt on a HD.
[01:05] <drekalots> wilee-nilee: ok. no worries.
[01:05] <drekalots> ubuntu installs quick enough. I can nuke it from orbit and run it again.
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> shooenough
[01:06] <drekalots> wilee-nilee: Thanks for your though. I'll be back in a bit.
[01:06]  * drekalots searches for his hammer.
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[01:06] <lauratika> drekalots searches for his hammer.
[01:07] <werd> wille-nilee, it is hard to tell but those little white things are the smileys http://imagebin.org/264868
[01:10] <razzledazzle> can anyone help me restore key bindings on Compiz?
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> werd, What was on the computer before?
[01:11] <werd> that still is on the computer im on my laptop now
[01:11] <werd> wilee-nilee,
[01:12] <razzledazzle> also why does setting wallpaper copy images to the Wallpapers folder located in the Pictures folder, it recopies even if the image is already there
[01:12] <clue_h> because it's awesome
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> werd, Is that the boot from menu outside of the bios?
[01:13] <razzledazzle> O.O
[01:13] <lukem__> where is my Python/C guy?
[01:13] <lukem__> I know there is a Python, C guy who knows whats what
[01:13] <lukem__> here
[01:13] <werd> wilee-nilee, my options were f2 for bios or f12 for boot menu and i did f12
[01:13] <lukem__> reveal yourself, so I can ask you a Python C question
[01:13] <lukem__> I am a developer
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> werd, Cool so there it freezes?
[01:14] <jrib> lukem__: if you have an ubuntu question, please just ask it.  If you have a python question, #python is a better bet (but just ask your question there too instead of looking for some sort of "guy")
[01:15] <lukem__> man, its all developers
[01:15] <werd> wilee-nilee, not quite i can press any key on the keyboard and it adds another smiley but besides that it freezes
[01:15] <lukem__> it doesnt matter
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> werd, Is freeze just a black screen?
[01:15] <lukem__> ok then
[01:15] <lukem__> why does my Ubuntu suck?
[01:15] <lukem__> it gives me System error problems all the time, and samba problems
[01:15] <werd> wilee-nilee, it stays on the boot screen
[01:16] <lauratika> lukem__:because you need to lear how tu use it better??
[01:16] <JRicketts_> good evening everyone... I need some assistance. I can access my website localhost but cannot through my domain name from another pc for expample. My domain name is through Godaddy and I am using their nameservers so I don't have to mess with it. I know that i changed the @ address to my Static IP address and left everything else alone in the domain panel on Godaddy? The error says The server at www.redsquareelectronics.c
[01:16] <lukem__> I never said Ubuntu sucks
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> werd, Is it a usb or disk, and have you checked the md5sum of the ISO, and is it burned as an image on a disc, please read this carefully.
[01:16] <lukem__> I said my operation has problems, and I have had a couple downloads with the same result
[01:16] <JRicketts_> configure my router to allow port forwarding for port 80 wich i found on many web forums but still no luck
[01:17] <lukem__> on a more serious note : my network only effectively connects 1/3 times upon reboot
[01:17] <Ben64> lukem__: give details on your problem, pastebin errors and maybe someone can help you
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> lukem__, Welcome to ignore, the world does not revolve around you.
[01:17] <werd> wilee-nilee, how do i do that
[01:17] <somsip> JRicketts_: I'm getting the default apache webpage at that address (.com)
[01:17] <JRicketts_> really?
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | werd
[01:17] <werd> where do i type that in
[01:18] <JRicketts_> ummm... ok does it matter if i am trying from a differenct maching on my network?
[01:18] <lukem__> I thought this was the #Ubuntu server?
[01:18] <somsip> JRicketts_: depends if your NS records for your server are cached and you're still reading old, cached entries
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> werd: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[01:18] <lukem__> should I try #ignore?
[01:18] <somsip> *DNS
[01:18] <JRicketts_> Somsip_: Never thought of that good call
[01:18] <lauratika> ignore
[01:18] <JRicketts_> ill check it out and let you know how it goes
[01:19] <Ben64> JRicketts_: yeah you usually have to wait 24hrs or so for dns to propagate world wide
[01:19] <somsip> JRicketts_: propogation can be quite quick. I find GoDaddy to be slow. ping the FQDN until the IP is correct, then retry
[01:19] <lauratika> *starting ignoring mode*
[01:19] <bazhang> lauratika, stop that
[01:19] <somsip> JRicketts_: and very much depends on TTL. ISTR GoDaddy is quite high
[01:20] <JRicketts_> well i would use my own dns but the problem is I am not that good at configuiring, now my server could handle it i bought it used but a pretty decent one, I might attack that on a later date but I have found that it will be more helpful to me just to let them host it for now
[01:20] <razzledazzle> JRicketts_: some routers do not support accessing own resource from the external IP, if you're in the same network
[01:20] <JRicketts_> are they that bad?
[01:20] <lauratika> it's broken  :o
[01:20] <JRicketts_> I did use my phone to pull up the url and it worked great! Thanks alot for that info
[01:21] <somsip> JRicketts_: GoDaddy is probably good enough for your needs. But you will have to wait for propagation now
[01:21] <JRicketts_> go ya
[01:21] <JRicketts_> now does ubuntu come with its own firewall on install?
[01:21] <Ben64> !ufw
[01:21] <JRicketts_> I don't think it does but wanted to ask the pros
[01:22] <JRicketts_> i know that centos did?
[01:22] <Ben64> well if the bot would stop being laggy it would tell you it does
[01:22] <checoimg> What is a better method than MD5 I forgot the name
[01:22] <checoimg> SHA  ?
[01:22] <Ben64> checoimg: method of...
[01:22] <checoimg> Check Summing I guess
[01:22] <somsip> checoimg: SHA1 is usually the next step up, in very geenral terms
[01:23] <checoimg> I think I've read that there's a better method for checking than MD5
[01:24] <checoimg> I recall SHA but I'm noy sure if that's the one
[01:24] <checoimg> Is SHA1 installed by default on Ubuntu ?
[01:24] <razzledazzle> stupid wallpaper problem D:
[01:25] <Ben64> checoimg: probably
[01:25] <somsip> !info rhash | checoimg
[01:25] <troulouliou_dev> checoimg, yes it is in coreutils
[01:25] <Ben64> ubottu died somsip
[01:25] <checoimg> I would like to see it working, I have an ISO file here
[01:25] <somsip> Ben64: thanks
[01:26] <th0r> Razzledazzle: you shouldn't use stupid wallpaper...it leads to frustration
[01:26] <somsip> checoimg: sha1sum or rhash by the look of it.
[01:26] <razzledazzle> th0r, lol frustrated right now
[01:26] <lauratika> razzledazzle: what is the issue
[01:26] <checoimg> OK thanks
[01:27] <razzledazzle> do you know why images get recopied to the Wallpapers folder even if they already exist there?
[01:27] <razzledazzle> this happens when I set wallpaper
[01:27] <Moonlightning> What is `powernap` for?
[01:27] <checoimg> SHA1 is faster
[01:27] <checoimg> RHASH is not installe dby default
[01:29] <checoimg> !info md5sum
[01:29] <checoimg> !info md5sum | checoimg
[01:31] <checoimg> RHASH is even faster than SHA1SUM
[01:32] <l3d> was wondering if there was a way to change the default icon for folders if so how ubuntu 12.10
[01:33] <DrekAlots> man. it takes forever to switch video drivers.
[01:33] <renegado> helo
[01:34] <brulez> .
[01:36] <parker_> Hello
[01:36] <parker_> First time using IRC
[01:37] <wilee-nilee> l3d, If your running unity the unity-tweak-tool probably has some options.
[01:37] <DrekAlots> Hello parker.
[01:37]  * DrekAlots remembers his first ime on IRC. It was circa 1995.
[01:37] <parker_> Is this a good place to ask for help? The forums to be doing me any good.
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> l3d, But that will change the theme overall, is it just that one icon?
[01:38] <DrekAlots> Seems to be. I'm new around this channel as well.
[01:38] <parker_> Movie Player, Blender, Youtube and Vimeo on chorme. Everything I try to play on my system has this issue.
[01:38] <parker_> The videos play very fast, and have no sound at all. I just did an update, can I undo it? Should I?
[01:38] <parker_> I'm using Ubuntu 13.04, and I just did the regular update when prompted.
[01:38] <parker_> Added: Grooveshark doesn't play, so it seems I have no sound at all.
[01:40] <werd> wilee-nilee, the iso is fine so i am wiping my hdd with the dod method instead of the quick method this time bc i think it is a virus and the quick method didnt wipe it
[01:40] <macwolf74> hm
[01:40] <l3d> wilee-nilee,  yes is is the one folder default icon for all folder icons  and not unity gnome fallback
[01:42] <somsip> !info firefox
[01:42] <somsip> !info firefox 12.04
[01:42] <somsip> !info firefox precise
[01:42] <SonikkuAmerica> !info firefox precise
[01:43] <SonikkuAmerica> (GMTA)
[01:43] <somsip> SonikkuAmerica: got it in the end, thanks. Sorry for spamming...
[01:43] <SonikkuAmerica> No biggie
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> l3d, Where is the icon showing?
[01:44] <jtreminio> Is it possible to force apt-get install to always use --force-yes ?
[01:44] <wilee-nilee> jtreminio, That sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
[01:45] <jtreminio> wilee-nilee: hehe. need it for puppet
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> darn puppet "masters"
[01:45] <jtreminio> specifically, this ppa ppa:ondrej/php5-experimental
[01:45] <jtreminio> trying to install apache2 throws those errors, but need it installed anyway. Best way to do this and others is to always force yes
[01:47] <jrib> jtreminio: "those errors"?
[01:47] <jtreminio> jrib: http://pastebin.com/sW4W4Wde
[01:48] <jrib> jtreminio: add the key for the ppa
[01:48] <jtreminio> jrib: I did the add-apt-repo and then apt-get update
[01:48] <jrib> jtreminio: was the key added for the ppa?
[01:50] <jtreminio> jrib: this would take care of it right? $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php5-experimental
[01:50] <jrib> jtreminio: yes, but see my last question
[01:50] <jtreminio> jrib: where should I check if it did?
[01:51] <jrib> jtreminio: 1) identify the ppa in question for those packages (apt-cache policy) 2) find the key for the ppa (you can use the launchpad page for the ppa) 3) use apt-key to see the current keys apt knows about
[01:52]  * JRicketts_ is now away - Reason : Auto-Away (Away from Keyboard for 30 minutes)
[01:52] <jrib> !away > JRicketts_
[01:53] <infinitux> does anybody know if collada-dom_2.3.1-1_amd64.deb is compatible with > libboost-filesystem1.46.1 such as libboost-filesystem1.49.0 or libboost-filesystem1.50.0?
[01:54] <jrib> infinitux: why would you need to ask that?  Shouldn't the deb package specify its dependencies?
[01:54] <DrekAlots> still having issues with setting up trim. is the command fstrim -v /dev/sda or just fstrim -v / ?
[01:55] <infinitux> jrib that's why i asked
[01:55] <Bollsaq> Does Gtk3 themes use metacity for the window themes or something else?
[01:56] <jrib> infinitux: I don't understand.  You think the dependencies the deb specifies are wrong, or...?
[01:56] <infinitux> collada-dom_2.3.1-1_amd64.deb requires libboost-filesystem1.46.1 but my repo only has libboost-filesystem1.49.0 or libboost-filesystem1.50.0
[01:57] <jrib> infinitux: ask the creator of the deb or read the software's documentation
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> Bollsaq, depends on the desktop, unity is compiz.
[01:58] <Rallias> http://i.imgur.com/nOoG4H5.png <- What can I do to make this more managable?
[01:58] <jtreminio> jrib: I can confirm the key was *not* added
[01:58] <somsip> Rallias: what's the problem with it?
[01:59] <cipherboy> Rallias, what are you asking? That seems to be an apt-get update with only default sources...not much to manage there.
[01:59] <Rallias> somsip, The VM is running in 1600x1200 (I think...) while my laptop runs at 1366x768.
[01:59] <jrib> jtreminio: either figure out why (remove the ppa and add it again to try to replicate) or add the key now
[01:59] <DrekAlots> still having issues with setting up trim. is the command fstrim -v /dev/sda or just fstrim -v / ?
[01:59] <somsip> Rallias: what WM is the VM running?
[02:00] <jtreminio> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net raring Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4F4EA0AAE5267A6C
[02:00] <Rallias> somsip, None.
[02:00] <jtreminio> jrib: ^^
[02:00] <jtreminio> well at least now I can work from there, I think
[02:01] <Rallias> somsip, Unless I've forgotten, this is the first bootup of me installing from mini.iso
[02:02] <Ubuh-Huntuh> is there any of the unbuntu distributions that has glibc >= 2.28?
[02:03] <Distrbd> hi
[02:03] <somsip> Rallias: Surely this is a VM issue then? What is it running under?
[02:03] <jtreminio> I wonder why it didn't get the key at first ...
[02:03] <Rallias> somsip, It's running on libvirtd/kvm
[02:04] <vnwilman> How to make .bash_history longer than 500 lines?
[02:04] <somsip> Rallias: never used it/them. Sorry, I can't help
[02:05] <Rallias> somsip, I know when I was using centos 6 I could use the vga=789 kernel switch and it'd be a good size... I just don't know how to set kernel options in ubuntu.
[02:05] <DrekAlots> still having issues with setting up trim. is the command fstrim -v /dev/sda or just fstrim -v / ?
[02:06] <somsip> vnwilman: on here (scroll down a bit to HISTSIZE) http://is.gd/o0uSGD
[02:06] <cipherboy> DrekAlots, man fstrim... says fstrim [...] -v mountpoint.
[02:07] <poz> hi, i lost the unity side bar and the top bar as well. anyone know how I can get these back?
[02:08] <dongs> how do I use https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/i386/linux-source-3.5.0/3.5.0-23.35
[02:08] <dongs> installing it results in a 83megs linux-source-3.5.0.tar.bz2 and 2 debian.* dirs.
[02:09] <Rallias> dongs, are you looking to use the 3.5.0-23.35 kernel or the sources?
[02:09] <kelly> hi guys , anyone used turpial ?
[02:09] <poz> i lost the unity side bar and the top bar as well. anyone know how I can get these back?
[02:09] <abetusk> I have a fresh install of 12.04 and am trying to get an Epson xp-200 printer working over usb.  I have installed the 64 bit drivers from epson (http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/du/02/DriverDownloadInfo.do?LG2=EN&CN2=&DSCMI=17707&DSCCHK=7eb2b95601a4a0a65adc04e65e3667e0c9dda153) and see the printer on /dev/ubs/lp0 but I don't know how to print to it.  It doesn't show up in Inkscape as an option.
[02:09] <dongs> Rallias: im looking to build the kernel, using same settings as whatever is shippe
[02:09] <dongs> + after adding some custom junk
[02:10] <dongs> is the .tar.bz2 the patched/etc kernel with all settings configured?
[02:10] <abetusk> If I put a text file directly to the /dev/usb/lp0, it seems to print partially, but it doesn't eject the paper when it's finished
[02:10] <abetusk> Any suggestions on what to do, what management tools to use or how to get it to show up for regular use?
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> DrekAlots, Take a look here lvm's are a bit different to set up trim it looks like. http://blog.christophersmart.com/2013/06/05/trim-on-lvm-on-luks-on-ssd/
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> DrekAlots, I assume you went lvm again.
[02:11] <Rallias> dongs, Beware the reprecussions of building your own kernel. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel is a guide I've used in the past.
[02:11] <DrekAlots> wilee-nilee: No. I manually parted it. I got it working finally.
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> DrekAlots, Cool. ;)
[02:12] <DrekAlots> wilee-nilee: http://imagebin.org/264873
[02:12] <DrekAlots> wilee-nilee: I'm adding the command to rc.local now and we'll see how it works.
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> DrekAlots, Gots the swap up front, I forget that always.
[02:13] <DrekAlots> wilee-nilee: My machine never uses swap. It's got 16Gb of RAM but I always add 1GB anyway.
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> DrekAlots, It rarely gets used here, with the ssd it is hardly noticeable.
[02:14] <DrekAlots> wilee-nilee: That's what I figured. But I created it anyway.
[02:16] <dongs> Rallias: that might be what i need.
[02:16] <poz> wow, i really fucked up my computer
[02:17] <poz> everytime i try to fix it i get even more errors
[02:17] <poz> now i lost the sidebar and topbar
[02:19] <dongs> or not.
[02:19] <dongs> i dont want to bulid any deb.
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> !language > poz
[02:24] <poz> sorry
[02:24] <poz> i just upset
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> no biggie you just want to know, did you remove some PPA'a
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> PPA's*
[02:24] <poz> anyways, i have decided to reinstall ubuntu
[02:24] <poz> i am going to try 13.04
[02:25] <poz> last time it did not work (like 5 months ago) but maybe it will this time
[02:25] <poz> no, i dont think ppas are the problem
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> poz, Be sure to be on the net and tick the update box, so you get all the drivers and such.
[02:25] <poz> will do
[02:26] <poz> its going to take me forever to install all the stuff i had on this though
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> poz, I have a install list I just run, and ppa's I load and keys, and a package list.
[02:28] <poz> i should start developing one of those lol
[02:29] <poz> might cover a lot of stuff I would be putting on anyways, think you could share this install list?
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> poz, on a reload of a OS you can run these dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> And if you wanted to use the list to reinstall this software on a fresh ubuntu setup, Code: sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages ; sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> the list can be loaded from synaptic as well, you just want to make sure the sources and keys are there if any extras.
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> and any PPA's cover your release installed
[02:33] <azazel91> how do i find my mac address
[02:34] <BenjaminRH> hey there people. anybody know how I can get nomodeset working permanently as a startup option? My screen is black without it. Or is there a better solution? My screen seems to work without that flag if I close the lid (put it to sleep) and wake it up again.
[02:35] <poz> Thank you wilee-nilee, just wrote it down!
[02:35] <JRicketts_> what would you pros reccomend either webmin or ispconfig for ubuntu?
[02:35]  * JRicketts_ is no longer away - Gone for 43 mins 33 secs
[02:35] <SonikkuAmerica> BenjaminRH: Edit your /etc/default/grub
[02:35] <saiarcot895> BenjaminRH: you can edit /etc/default/grub and then run sudo update-grub
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> BenjaminRH, You investigated the graphic driver issues?
[02:36] <BenjaminRH> wilee-nilee: uh. Not really. I installed bumblebee
[02:36] <BenjaminRH> for optimus
[02:37] <SonikkuAmerica> JRicketts_: jrib kicked you out of the channel because of your noisy away message. Get rid of it, please.
[02:37] <BenjaminRH> SonikkuAmerica, saiarcot895 thanks for that
[02:37] <BenjaminRH> wilee-nilee: is there something you'd suggest
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> benjamino, Ah, out of my area, however many use it, a new computer like that should have some workarounds, just not easy maybe.
[02:37] <SonikkuAmerica> JRicketts_: (Channel policy forbids announced away messages)
[02:37] <JRicketts_> srry will turn off :)
[02:38] <BenjaminRH> wilee-nilee: just out of curiosity, what's with the "o" at the end of my name?
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> BenjaminRH, Heh tab complete and me not paying attention, another nick, my bad.
[02:39] <BenjaminRH> Ah. lol
[02:39] <poz> have they fixed the nvidia driver problems "out of the box" in 13.04?
[02:40] <BenjaminRH> poz: certainly not :D
[02:40] <poz> or am i going to have to spend an hour or so fixing that... thats a bummer
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> poz, can pigs fly. ;)
[02:40] <poz> thats the part i am least looking forward to
[02:40] <BenjaminRH> poz: good luck with the hour time estimate
[02:40] <poz> hahaha
[02:40] <BenjaminRH> poz: when you figure that out, I'd love you to drop a line
[02:40]  * wilee-nilee avoids nvidia and fastboot
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> erh safeboot
[02:41] <poz> i have done it about 20 times already with multiple monitors on my desktop. this laptop should be easier
[02:41]  * BenjaminRH avoids safeboot, loves nvidia because is addicted to games
[02:41] <BenjaminRH> poz: ahah! Then you probably already know what you're doing
[02:41]  * DrekAlots is trying out why virtualbox is limiting him to 256MB of VRAM.
[02:42] <poz> I have a sense of direction, but lack understanding. i typically fumble around with the settings until it works
[02:42] <BenjaminRH> You know it's bad when you have to spend hours figuring something out in Ubuntu when it worked "out of the box" in Arch
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> DrekAlots, you sure your at ram not video?
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> eh display
[02:42] <dongs>  Q: what is the simplest way to get a buildable kernel source tree for a given ubuntu-patched kernel version.. I don't want to build a .deb or anything. Just the patched source, which, if built, would result in the binary identical to currently running kernel.
[02:42] <DrekAlots> wilee-nilee: yup.
[02:43] <DrekAlots> and no full screen mode...
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> DrekAlots, You need the guest additions for screen, not sure on the ram or where you doing this at.
[02:44] <DrekAlots> wilee-nilee: in the display settings for the machine
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> DrekAlots, The machine off?
[02:44] <DrekAlots> yes
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> DrekAlots, Hmm mine will let me use all the computers ram, although with a warning if I go past 50%
[02:46] <cheezit> Hey, is there any way to install the proper nvidia drivers under ubuntu 13.04?
[02:47] <cheezit> (Nvidia packages don't seem to exist anymore, nor can I find the drivers anywhere else)
[02:47] <xirre> tar -cvzf "../test.tar.gz" "test/" <-- When running this a second time it does not make a new one. Instead, it overwrites. How do I make it automatically create a new file such as test(1).tar.gz
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> cheezit, Have you looked in additional drivers?
[02:47] <DrekAlots> cheezit: In Ubuntu Software Center, click on the Edit menu and then select sources. Then Additional Drivers.
[02:47] <BenjaminRH> ok
[02:47] <BenjaminRH> what about x-swap
[02:48] <BenjaminRH> anybody use x-swap? Like it? No?
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> a swap file?
[02:48] <BenjaminRH> no, the X-SWAP ppa for nvidia graphics
[02:48] <BenjaminRH> cheezit: it won't appear in additional drivers if your thing has optimus support, apparently
[02:48] <cheezit> DrekAlots: is the software center accessable as 'Software and updates' under settings?
[02:49] <cheezit> I don't see anything under 'additional drivers'
[02:49] <xirre> tar -cvzf "../test.tar.gz" "test/" <-- When running this a second time it does not make a new one. Instead, it overwrites. How do I make it automatically create a new file such as test(1).tar.gz
[02:50] <cheezit> BenjaminRH: This is a desktop, so I wouldn't assume that would be an issue
[02:50] <BenjaminRH> what card is it?
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> cheezit, So nvidia is not my area, however for help here identifying your hardware is first on the list, and then the problems.
[02:51] <BenjaminRH> btw wilee-nilee, while I'm getting help, do you know anything about getting special function keys to work properly?
[02:51] <BenjaminRH> wilee-nilee: things like FN+F-- to raise/lower brightness or volume, etc.
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> BenjaminRH, No sure.
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> not sure*
[02:52] <BenjaminRH> they're all screwed up on my laptop
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> BenjaminRH, Some computers are different with those key controls it seems.
[02:53] <BenjaminRH> they all do it differently
[02:53] <Paulm> So, totally new here, haven't been in a chatroom since the 90's.  Am I just supposed to ask the room for help if I have an issue?
[02:53] <BenjaminRH> Paulm: yep :)
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> Paulm, You would state the issue.
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> as a way if asking for help
[02:54] <Paulm> okay - so I've got an issue with getting into gmail... just doesn't work, times out in every browser.
[02:55] <Ben64> sounds like an internet issue, not ubuntu
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> Paulm, You blocking any flash or cookies.
[02:55] <Paulm> Works on my roommates computer and we have the same wireless
[02:56] <Paulm> I have an adblocker, turned it off, didn't help
[02:56] <Ben64> Paulm: you probably are using a different dns server
[02:56] <Paulm> tried switching to an open dns, didn't help.
[02:56] <Ben64> Paulm: pastebin the contents of /etc/resolv.conf
[02:57] <Paulm> Tried updating to 13.04 from 12.04, going through 12.10 no change.
[02:57] <Paulm> what's weird is it used to work just fine.
[02:57] <stux> Hello again, a few days ago I was having issues with ufw in my VPS.  The machine was running Ubuntu 11.04.  I have since reinstalled 10.04 LTS and re-installed ufw but have had the same issues. I was wondering if someone here could help fix or set up a simple yet robust firewall on my machine.
[02:58] <Paulm> ben64 - not much of tech guy, what should I do?
[02:58] <Ben64> Paulm: pastebin the contents of /etc/resolv.conf
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> stux, This a server?
[02:58] <stux> oh, yeah, it's a server so it's running 10.04 LTS server, sorry forgot to mention
[02:58] <Ben64> stux: you should really upgrade to 12.04 or 13.04, 11.04 is not supported at all, and 10.04 is very old
[02:59] <stux> well at least it's a stripped down version
[02:59] <cheezit> Any reason why vim would have no installation candidate?
[02:59] <stux> Ben64 I tried installing 12.04 but the VPS didn't support its installation
[02:59] <cheezit> Or why I can't change my download mirror? (When I select an item in the 'download from' drop down box it disregards my selection and retains the old value...)
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> cheezit, I see a whole lotta vim in synaptic
[03:00] <cheezit> wilee-nilee: Any suggestions as to how i'd get at it?
[03:01] <BenjaminRH> cheezit: compile it yourself, worst case
[03:01] <cheezit> sudo apt-get install vim returns me 'vim' has no installation candidate
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> cheezit, Never used it but sudo apt-get install vim should load it
[03:01] <Paulm> Sorry for my ignorance Ben64 - how does one pastebin? I think I need less technical direction, or more explicit ones.
[03:01] <BenjaminRH> cheezit: thats odd, I just tried it, it worked for me
[03:01] <cheezit> Same with aptitude or any other package i can find
[03:01] <cheezit> This is a new install of 13.04
[03:01] <BenjaminRH> me too
[03:01] <BenjaminRH> worked fine for me
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> cheezit, Have you run a update yet?
[03:01] <somsip> !info vim | cheezit
[03:01] <BenjaminRH> oh. lol
[03:02] <Pinkamena_D> the movie player "totem" I think its called, has a few issues when playing back dvds for me. Horizontal lines appear as if interlaced or something, and the audio desyncs. I tried vlc too and just the audio desync happens
[03:02] <stux> so if anybody has experience setting up firewall packages (even if it's with iptables) that would be most helpful (I heard there are other alternatives to ufw)
[03:02] <somsip> cheezit: standard package, called 'vim'. There are variants, eg: vim-nox. But it should intall using just 'vim'
[03:02] <Pinkamena_D> Anyone know of a good dvd player?
[03:02] <Ben64> Paulm: you go to pastebin.com and put text in the box there, submit it, and give the url here
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> Pinkamena_D, VLC
[03:02] <Ben64> Pinkamena_D: mplayer2
[03:03] <cheezit> It really should
[03:03] <cheezit> I just ran an update
[03:03] <cheezit> let's see if this fixes it
[03:04] <DrekAlots> dang. this ssd is fast. lol.
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin > Paulm for a reference
[03:09] <Pinkamena_D> is mplayer2 only command line?
[03:09] <Ben64> yeah
[03:09] <Pinkamena_D> if so, do you know the command to load some of the dvd into the memory because it just keeps seeking and pausing the stream every second
[03:09] <Ben64> theres a frontend that works with it, called smplayer
[03:10] <Ben64> -cache 32768
[03:10] <Pinkamena_D> ok wow that looks better
[03:11] <DrekAlots> ok. how do i get rid of the stupid sales results when i click on the ubuntu logo?
[03:12] <cheezit> Ok, so that turned out to just be user error on my part (I assumed that It already updated as part of the install)
[03:12] <cheezit> Howeve rnow i'm finding that when I try and install ghc-doc GHC core dumps and it blows up apt
[03:12] <cheezit> any thoughts?
[03:21] <Paulm> okay - got a gmail issue
[03:21] <clue_h> specifically?
[03:21] <Paulm> Here's the pastbin url for the whole story http://pastebin.com/kNGMXN5W
[03:22] <Paulm> it's not too long, but I was asked to do this pastebin thing
[03:23] <clue_h> I guess you have already tried a fresh install of an alternate browser with no plugins, just getting that out of the way
[03:23] <Paulm> yep
[03:24] <Paulm> It's confusing right?
[03:24] <BenjaminRH> anybody know what the "quite" and "splash" grub options do?
[03:25] <BenjaminRH> *quiet
[03:25] <DrekAlots> i uninstalled the lenses but am still getting stupid sales advertisements when i click on the ubuntu logo and search for a program.... any ideas.
[03:25] <clue_h> It is, do you have a fire wall rule set btw
[03:26] <Paulm> I don't have a firewall.
[03:26] <clue_h> I'm having the same problem anyway
[03:27] <Paulm> you are?
[03:27] <Paulm> driving me crazy
[03:29] <Paulm> so no advice on steps?
[03:42] <insGadget> why does my lightdm.conf file have a *autologin-user=<myusername>* followed by *autologin-user-timeout=0* followed by *autologin-session=lightdm-autologin* is this normal for autologin install?
[03:44] <NORoot> How can i make a windows usb in ubuntu 13.04 , unetbootin wont work and many other programs..
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> NORoot, http://congelli.eu/prog_info_winusb.html is one multisystem at pendrive linux works as well.
[03:46] <NORoot> I just tried but failed
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> NORoot, What windows release?
[03:46] <NORoot> Windows 8 pro x64
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> NORoot, Where did you get it?
[03:47] <NORoot> well i want to install windows 8.1 and download using my license the windows 8 pro version
[03:47] <insGadget> WinUSB any good?
[03:47] <NORoot> so i have windows 8.1 .iso
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> NORoot, w8.1 is a free install
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> auto activates
[03:48] <NORoot> I know, but i want to install my windows 8 pro (which i bought)
[03:48] <insGadget> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html is this relavant
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> NORoot, No reason to the 8.1 is a longterm use.
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> is not*
[03:48] <NORoot> unetbootin will only detect fat32 and not ntfs
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> NORoot, You want both?
[03:49] <NORoot> i actually got my windows deleted while installing ubuntu
[03:50] <wilee-nilee> NORoot, Oh well you have not answered a single question, nor made any sense in regards to my posts, carry on.
[03:51] <wilee-nilee> like talking to a brick wall
[03:51] <BenjaminRH> damn
[03:51] <mm12> hi all
[03:51] <mm12> how come my computer freezed everytime iam on ubuntu
[03:51] <BenjaminRH> I just installed the nvidia drivers, and now my screen resolution only works at a very low setting (not quite sure what it is). Any idea how to fix that?
[03:52] <BenjaminRH> when I login, I get an error message "Could not apply the stored configuration for the monitors"
[03:52] <BenjaminRH> "none of the selected modes were compatible with the possible modes: " and then it lists a bunch of resolutions it tried
[03:53] <BenjaminRH> this is normally a 1080p hd screen. Any idea how to restore that?
[03:53] <mm12> can i create a swap area after ive installed ubuntu
[03:53] <Corey> Sure.
[03:53] <Corey> mm12: ^
[03:53] <Corey> Create a swapfile with dd, then "swapon" it.
[03:54] <mm12> i think that might be the problem
[03:55] <mm12> ok let me try that
[04:00] <ExperimentalLion> HI all
[04:00] <ExperimentalLion> where are other people from?
[04:01] <somsip> !ot | ExperimentalLion
[04:02] <BenjaminRH> I just installed the nvidia drivers, and now my screen resolution only works at a very low setting (not quite sure what it is). Does anybody here know how to fix that?
[04:03] <usr13> BenjaminRH: How did you install the Nvidia Driver?
[04:03] <BenjaminRH> usr13: I tried it from the X-SWAP ppa, and then when that didn't work, from NVIDIA.com
[04:03] <BenjaminRH> when I login, I get an error message "Could not apply the stored configuration for the monitors"
[04:04] <usr13> BenjaminRH: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf  or sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[04:04] <BenjaminRH> incidentally, my previous issue of a black screen on boot-up is now fixed
[04:04] <imhotep525> what kind of card?
[04:04] <BenjaminRH> geforce 740m
[04:05] <usr13> BenjaminRH: Or, find the Nvidia GUI and adjust.
[04:05] <usr13> BenjaminRH: what does   xrandr  say?
[04:06] <usr13> BenjaminRH: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[04:06] <BenjaminRH> a fresh install of 13.04
[04:06] <usr13> BenjaminRH: Fully updated?
[04:06] <BenjaminRH> yep
[04:06] <usr13> Ok
[04:07] <BenjaminRH> xrandr says Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 640 x 480, maximum 32767 x 32767
[04:07] <BenjaminRH> but only one entry for a screen
[04:08] <usr13> xrandr | pastebinit   #SHow us URL
[04:08] <BenjaminRH> paste.ubuntu.com/5886373
[04:09] <BenjaminRH> incidentally, thanks so much for taking the time here
[04:10] <usr13> pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log    #Send that URL to us.
[04:11] <BenjaminRH> 5886374
[04:12] <usr13> BenjaminRH: lspci | pastebinit   #Send that URL
[04:13] <BenjaminRH> 5886386
[04:13] <imhotep525> does anyone here run steam on 12.04 and have performance issues?
[04:14] <usr13> BenjaminRH: uname -a | pastebinit
[04:14] <Rallias> Is there a good command line http file getter that supports gzip?
[04:15] <usr13> Rallias: wget
[04:15] <BenjaminRH> usr13: 5886400
[04:15] <Rallias> usr13, That supports gzip
[04:15] <zeroRooter> My administrative account currently has no password on it ( i changed it to nothing after install) i seem to have trouble rechanging it to something else as the "current password:" field in "user accounts" requires a password (otherwise i can't proceed)
[04:16] <Rallias> The problem is, wget doesn't support gzip
[04:16] <usr13> BenjaminRH: When you got the Nvidia driver from nvidia.com, did you get the 32bit or 64bit.
[04:16] <BenjaminRH> usr13: 64
[04:16] <BenjaminRH> usr13: but it said it was also installing 32 bit compatibility
[04:17] <usr13> BenjaminRH: THere is a utility you can use, I think it is nvidia-settings   or    nvidia-xconfig
[04:18] <BenjaminRH> usr13: both are available options
[04:18] <usr13> Rallias:  Why don't you tell us what you want to do?
[04:18] <Rallias> usr13, Pull files with gzip encoding to save bandwidth
[04:19] <usr13> Rallias: You want to download a website and save it as a compressed archive?
[04:19] <BenjaminRH> usr13: when I open up nvidia-settings, it pops up with a message saying "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server"
[04:19] <Rallias> No, I want the transfer to happen with gzip.
[04:20] <usr13> Rallias: That is something that is going to happen on the server end.  Is it your site?
[04:20] <Rallias> usr13, The problem is, it won't use gzip unless the client announces itself as gzip compatible.
[04:20] <Rallias> Wget is not gzip compatible.
[04:20] <omegaweapon79> i need help please
[04:21] <Rallias> !help | omegaweapon79
[04:21] <omegaweapon79> i can't find my  usb hd
[04:22] <usr13> Rallias: Does the site have a CMS of some sort?
[04:22] <imhotep525> so is 13.04 stable compared to 12.04 and is there any substantial driver/steam improvements?
[04:22] <Rallias> usr13, The site is gzip compatible. I'm looking for a command line client that is compatible.
[04:22] <usr13> BenjaminRH: just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root
[04:23] <usr13> Rallias: What do you mean "The site is gzip compatible."
[04:23] <usr13> ?
[04:23] <muslimgirl> please do not throw acid in my face even though I just want to go to school.
[04:23] <omegaweapon79> sorry my keybroad broke had switch old one question mark don't work
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> imhotep525, An empty question what is stable for some may not be for others.
[04:23] <Rallias> usr13, I mean the site will send gzip content when the client announces it is gzip compatible.
[04:23] <wilee-nilee> no definition of stable
[04:23] <usr13> Rallias: Is it Joomla or Drupal?
[04:24] <wilee-nilee> !ot > muslimgirl
[04:24] <BenjaminRH> usr13: just did that. Then I run nvidia-settings again, and it pops up with the same message.
[04:24] <zeroRooter> I currently have no password on my administrative account, but i'm having trouble changing the pass. I also cant seem to use Sudo with no password srcn: http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/4784/7jqp.png  (notice how theres no password set, yet it still asks me for my current password when i try to change it)
[04:24] <muslimgirl> lol
[04:24] <muslimgirl> ok
[04:25] <muslimgirl> sorry
[04:25] <holstein> !steam | imhotep525
[04:25] <Rallias> usr13, What does it matter if my CMS is a certain type? It sends gzip to browsers such as firefox and chrome that announce that they're gzip compatible. I'm looking for a command line tool that is compatible with gzip transfer encoding.
[04:25] <omegaweapon79> ok so can anyone help me i just got linux
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> zeroRooter, Sound like some missing info here, how did you set no passwrod?
[04:25] <usr13> zeroRooter: It is normal to not be able to use sudo with no password.
[04:25] <wilee-nilee> password*
[04:26] <zeroRooter> wilee-nilee: i changed it after install, probably something i shouldnt have done
[04:26] <wilee-nilee> zeroRooter, How?
[04:26] <zeroRooter> wilee-nilee: i dont know i just clicked on password and it let me change it, like in the prnt screen i gave you :P
[04:26] <usr13> Rallias: I don't know what you are talking about, but if you download a compressed file, that's all you need.  Right?
[04:27] <Rallias> usr13, No. I'm looking for a client for http similar to wget that supports gzip on transfer. Wget does not submit the accept-encoding header, and thus is unable to pull gzipped content to reduce bandwidth utilization.
[04:27] <jrib> Rallias: what exactly do you want to do?  Get a single page using wget that the server sends gzipped?
[04:27] <zeroRooter> wilee-nilee: usr13:  any ideas on how to change it? ^_^
[04:28] <Rallias> jrib, Well, a predestined list of pages.
[04:28] <jrib> Rallias: you can just have wget send the header that tells the server it accepts gzip
[04:28] <usr13> Rallias: Usually, the way it works is that you use a backup app on your CMS that generates a compressed file and you download it.  Right?
[04:28] <BenjaminRH> usr13: unfortunately, that nvidia tool doesn't seem to do anything
[04:28] <Rallias> jrib, Then wget will dump an incomprehensible file.
[04:29] <jrib> Rallias: huh?
[04:29] <usr13> BenjaminRH: You must have messed up the Nvidia Driver install somehow.  Try again.
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> zeroRooter, There is a password changer from recovery you can use maybe. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[04:29] <BenjaminRH> usr13: I have :(
[04:30] <jrib> Rallias: you'll get back the file gzipped.  You can gunzip it if you want
[04:30] <usr13> BenjaminRH: Is this a desktop or Laptop?
[04:30] <BenjaminRH> laptop
[04:31] <BenjaminRH> a new Toshiba S70
[04:31] <holstein> BenjaminRH: new enough to return it?
[04:32] <BenjaminRH> holstein: yeah, but I don't want to return it. It didn't come installed with Ubuntu. I'm trying to do that separately
[04:32] <BenjaminRH> there must be some way to use a discrete graphics card on Ubuntu
[04:33] <holstein> BenjaminRH: sure.. im just saying, you could return it, and purchase a machine that comes with ubuntu.. might save some hassle
[04:33] <wilee-nilee> omegaweapon79, You can't find the plugged in external, does it show if you run lsusb
[04:33] <holstein> BenjaminRH: there is.. and ideally, the vendor would supply you a driver, or allow the community to have the specs to support it.. otherwise, you gotta deal with the driver you are dealing with
[04:34] <BenjaminRH> Ah well.
[04:34] <holstein> BenjaminRH: kernel versions and ubuntu releases can make a difference
[04:34] <holstein> BenjaminRH: are you on 12.04?
[04:34] <BenjaminRH> 13.04
[04:34] <usr13> BenjaminRH: You probably need ot unstall the one you got from the PPA
[04:34] <omegaweapon79> um hello could any one help me please?
[04:34] <holstein> omegaweapon79: just ask, friend
[04:34] <BenjaminRH> I use my windows partition for games, I'd be happy with the integrated Intel. The only problem is, I was getting a black screen on boot.
[04:35] <BenjaminRH> and people told me I needed to get the discrete graphics card sorted out
[04:35] <wilee-nilee> omegaweapon79, I just asked you a question, asking for help is a good way to not get any.
[04:35] <holstein> BenjaminRH: people?
[04:35] <usr13> BenjaminRH: And then run the nvidia-installer again.
[04:35] <BenjaminRH> on here earlier, and a bunch of askubuntu.com posts
[04:35] <holstein> BenjaminRH: im nor sure what a "discrete" card is.. are you talking about a dual GPU?
[04:35] <holstein> BenjaminRH: i have nvidia dual GPU in this machine, with 12.04
[04:36] <Nmbr1> BenjaminRH: i realize it isn't entirely the same, but have you considered running ubuntu in a vm under windows?
[04:36] <BenjaminRH> oh no
[04:36] <omegaweapon79> wilee sorry i didn't see your questio what was it?
[04:36] <usr13> BenjaminRH: This is a normal Ubuntu install, Right?  (As opposed to wubi or vbox client.)
[04:36] <BenjaminRH> nope
[04:36] <BenjaminRH> I'm not getting into that
[04:36] <BenjaminRH> normal install
[04:36] <FloodBot1> BenjaminRH: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:36] <holstein> BenjaminRH: theres always the vesa driver
[04:36] <BenjaminRH> that sounds exciting. What's that?
[04:36] <holstein> !vesa
[04:36] <usr13> BenjaminRH: just delete the xorg.conf file
[04:36] <holstein> BenjaminRH: far from exiting
[04:37] <holstein> exciting*
[04:37] <BenjaminRH> hmm. what about the xorg-edgers?
[04:38] <holstein> BenjaminRH: i thought you already added that ppa?
[04:38] <BenjaminRH> I added the X-SWAT
[04:38] <holstein> BenjaminRH: if you understand how to purge ppa's and deal with packages, try it
[04:38] <holstein> BenjaminRH: you should be able to use the one in the repo
[04:38] <holstein> BenjaminRH: did you test that one?
[04:38] <BenjaminRH> nope
[04:39] <BenjaminRH> haven't tried it yet. ppa-purge?
[04:39] <holstein> BenjaminRH: i would
[04:39] <holstein> !nvidia | BenjaminRH
[04:39] <usr13> BenjaminRH: If I were you, I'd blow off everything else and download the driver from nvidia.com and install.  (But you need to get rid of the one from the ppa first.
[04:39] <BenjaminRH> usr13: Alright. I'm doing that now
[04:40] <holstein> BenjaminRH: if usr13 has some first hand experience with that device, go for it.. its not really an issue testing the one in the repo first though
[04:40] <BenjaminRH> hmm. I'm getting "could not find package list for ppa"
[04:40] <usr13> holstein:  I assume he tried the one from the repo first.  but, I dono.
[04:41] <holstein> usr13: i did too, but i just asked BenjaminRH said he hadnt
[04:41] <usr13> holstein: You may have a better idea for him. (I have to leave now anyway.)
[04:41] <BenjaminRH> i've tried x-swat, but not xorg-edgers
[04:41] <BenjaminRH> usr13: thanks very much for all the help
[04:41] <usr13> BenjaminRH: NP
[04:41] <holstein> usr13: i assumed that would be the first thing, but folks dont come here and ask how to do things.. they come when things have gone wrong that "people" have said to do ;)
[04:41] <BenjaminRH> lol.
[04:42] <holstein> no, i agree usr13
[04:42] <holstein> BenjaminRH: but, if you havent tried the repo one its easy to try... purge the PPA, and test the stock one, then the one from the stie
[04:42] <holstein> site*
[04:43] <usr13> Well, it's just that I've seen a number of nvidia driver installs from the repo that don't work.  They download from nvidia.com and it works.  So.... I dono.
[04:43] <usr13> I would assume it would be a lot better to try and use the ones from the repo first.
[04:43] <holstein> wont hurt to try the one from the site.. i usually try *all* of them, and do a fresh install when i figure it all out
[04:44] <holstein> usr13: well, it could be "easier" in the long run, with upgrades.. assuming the one in the repo works
[04:45] <BenjaminRH> ok
[04:45] <omegaweapon79> my usb external hard drive can't be detected by my kubuntu it powers up find any ideas?
[04:45] <BenjaminRH> I've just tried installing from the Nvidia site. I'm getting a warning: "You do not apear to have an NVIDIA GPU supported by the 319.32 NVIDIA Linux driver installed in this system. For further details...."
[04:46] <holstein> omegaweapon79: maybe its bad.. i usually open a terminal and run "sudo fdisk -l" to see if the machine is finding it
[04:47] <holstein> omegaweapon79: then, i open a file manager and try and mount it.. then i try and mount it from the terminal, and see if i see any helpful error messages
[04:47] <holstein> !mount
[04:47] <joyson> kabaddi
[04:47] <omegaweapon79> i did that it is found there but i still can't get to be detected
[04:48] <holstein> omegaweapon79: i would try mounting other "known good" drives on the kubuntu install, and take the USB to other "known good" machines
[04:48] <joyson> ajay
[04:48] <omegaweapon79> ok let me try thtat
[04:48] <holstein> omegaweapon79: when you say "i did that", you can not say "that" and actually say *exactly* what you did, or a volunteer will not know what "that" meanse
[04:48] <holstein> means*
[04:49] <omegaweapon79> nothing it just can't find it
[04:49] <omegaweapon79> no error message
[04:49] <holstein> omegaweapon79: you mounted from the commandline?
[04:49] <omegaweapon79> yes
[04:49] <omegaweapon79> still nothing
[04:50] <holstein> omegaweapon79: then, try and access it where you mounted it
[04:50] <omegaweapon79> blank
[04:50] <omegaweapon79> no id's or anything
[04:50] <qzjul> is there a place on launchpad to comment on PPA's ?
[04:51] <holstein> omegaweapon79: is that a problem? is there data on it? is it a supported file system? does it work with any other computer? can you mount other drives on that kubuntu install?
[04:51] <holstein> omegaweapon79: i need details, friend
[04:51] <qzjul> i think the php-cli in the php 5.4 PPA for 12.04 by ondrej is bad
[04:52] <holstein> !ppa | qzjul
[04:52] <holstein> qzjul: i just know they are not officially supported.. there should be a contact on the PPA
[04:52] <holstein> qzjul: you dont file an official bug in LP for ppa packages
[04:53] <qzjul> mhmm I'm aware of the third party nature, and there was some contact, but I was hoping there was some comment section / forum / bug section for them heh
[04:53] <omegaweapon79> well right before i tried plug it in it disapeared for my windows 7 but i new that still worked cause linux lite tryied install itslef into it
[04:53] <omegaweapon79> but since then i have been albe to get it detected
[04:54] <holstein> omegaweapon79: that doesnt mean the data was intact, or that the drive is functioning.. that means that an installer "noticed" it
[04:54] <omegaweapon79> hmm
[04:54] <holstein> omegaweapon79: what would i do? mount it with a live recover CD on a machine that i am familiar with.. one that i *know* will mount drives
[04:54] <omegaweapon79> so how can i recover it so i can use it
[04:54] <qzjul> I'll follow the contact information then ^^
[04:55] <Nmbr1> holstein: if omegaweapon79 has a windows machine that noticed it, why not have him check disk manager to see if it is truly recognized and what the filesystem is?
[04:55] <holstein> i would recover any data i can, and test, and re-format, assuming the drive is functioning
[04:55] <holstein> Nmbr1: you can speak directly to omegaweapon79
[04:55] <wilee-nilee> omegaweapon79, You ever chkdsk that drive?
[04:55] <holstein> Nmbr1: i already suggested trying another machine
[04:55] <omegaweapon79> i dual boot
[04:56] <omegaweapon79> untill yesterday it was working find
[04:56] <holstein> omegaweapon79: if its the same hardware, and it used to mount in windows, and now windows wont mount it because of "breakage", it'll still be broken in linux
[04:56] <holstein> omegaweapon79: hard drives fail.. *all* of them will
[04:56] <gene_> hello
[04:57] <omegaweapon79> where tring mount is on my laptop where kubuntu is installed
[04:57] <holstein> omegaweapon79: sure, but does windws mount it?
[04:57] <holstein> omegaweapon79: you mentioned a "problem" i think
[04:58] <holstein> omegaweapon79: you still have not mentioned the file system type
[04:58] <crabs> anyone use ChicagoVPS?
[04:58] <omegaweapon79> so just might be time get knew one
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> !anyone > crabs
[04:58] <holstein> omegaweapon79: is it working in windows?
[05:00] <omegaweapon79> hmm well tanks to all i'll keep working if find a fix i post it
[05:01] <dongs>  Q: what is the simplest way to get a buildable kernel source tree for a given ubuntu-patched kernel version.. I don't want to build a .deb or anything. Just the patched source, which, if built, would result in the binary identical to currently running kernel.
[05:01] <nacho> huh?
[05:01] <omegaweapon79> it was woking early today the icon just disappeared
[05:01] <nacho> hi
[05:02] <nacho> hello?
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> nacho, this is not a chat channel, it is support.
[05:03] <dongs> then why is noone answeing my question.
[05:03] <nacho> ,
[05:05] <nacho> huh? og
[05:05] <nacho> oh
[05:07] <kelly1> hi guys anyone here used weechat
[05:08] <wilee-nilee> kelly1, The channel does not do polls, if you have an issue state it.
[05:09] <kelly1> yes i have
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> cool spill it
[05:10] <kelly1> wilee-nilee: i want to know how can i add spelling correction here in weechat
[05:10] <kelly1> i read there wesite but i don't know how can i do that
[05:11] <Nmbr1> kelly1: that would be a weechat question not ubuntu. please see the weechat channel on the oftc server.
[05:11] <holstein> i would just use a client with spellcheck
[05:11] <kelly1> Nmbr1: ok thanx
[05:12] <holstein> !info smuxi
[05:13] <holstein> anyways... http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/smuxi-irc-client-pushes-out-new-update
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> kelly1, There is a aspell plugin but I have never used it.
[05:13] <holstein> no need to add the PPA
[05:14] <omegaweapon79> my usb external hard drive is not being detected by kubuntu it was was working when i tried make my desktop into daul boot system but before that my icon had disapeared from my windows 7 the file system was ntfs all want to know is how to recover it and be able to have kubuntu detect it ?
[05:14] <holstein> omegaweapon79: is it being detected by windows?
[05:16] <Nmbr1> omegaweapon79: try plugging it in on windows, go to disk management and if the usb is found you can format the disk. if it cannot find the usb then perhaps you need to find a new usb or you could have a bad usb hub in the computer.
[05:23] <gene_> has anyone else had a lot of trouble installing ubuntu on a win 8?
[05:23] <holstein> gene_: whats a "win8"?
[05:24] <gene_> windows 8 operating system
[05:24] <holstein> gene_: you mean, windows 8?
[05:24] <holstein> gene_: ?
[05:24] <gene_> yes, sorry
[05:24] <holstein> ubuntu *is* an opterating system
[05:24] <holstein> gene_: you dont install ubuntu on windows... you install it beside it, on the same machine, or alone instead of windows
[05:24] <holstein> !uefi | gene_
[05:24] <holstein> ^^ that is likely what you are asking about
[05:24] <wilee-nilee> gene_, A wubi?
[05:25] <gene_> I installed with wubi
[05:25] <holstein> !wubi
[05:26] <holstein> gene_: so, whats the question?
[05:26] <gene_> How can I install ubuntu without windows?
[05:26] <holstein> gene_: i havent used wubi since 12.04, on my fathers machine and it worked fine
[05:26] <holstein> gene_: are you asking if anyone else has had problems with wubi? and you are having issues?
[05:27] <gene_> wubi worked fine.. I just feel like im constricted to windows
[05:28] <gene_> I burned a cd of ubuntu and it didn't boot up
[05:29] <gene_> Oh here we go, maybe because I didn't disable quickboot?
[05:30] <wilee-nilee> gene_, More uefi tips. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[05:30] <gene_> How did you know UEFI applies to me?
[05:30] <wilee-nilee> W8
[05:31] <joyson> lul
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> if an oem it is a uefi gpt
[05:35] <cpined> hello
[05:36] <cpined> I have Kubuntu 64 on a flash drive, and I noticed that tail -f is not working
[05:36] <cpined> it does not do a live update
[05:39] <cpined> I have Kubuntu 64 on a flash drive, and I noticed that tail -f is not working, it does not tail the file
[05:39] <wilee-nilee> cpined, live iso load or full install?
[05:40] <cpined> live, i believe
[05:40] <wilee-nilee> cpined, You don't know?
[05:40] <cpined> I used a windows linux tool to make the usb flash drive bootable and installed the iso on it
[05:40] <cpined> don't know
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> cpined, Did you add persistence?
[05:41] <cpined> yes i did
[05:41] <babinlonston> what are the fundamentals a Linux administrator must do daily .....
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> cpined, A live usb has a casper-rw file it will fill up eventually, as well you have to be careful what you add, as you are not exspanding the iso it runs on, so a regular update is not really a good idea. you can comment out the cd in the sources.list and install though after running a update to orientate the usb.
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> regular update and upgrade that is.
[05:43] <cpined> thanks, I'll try it
[05:43] <babinlonston> what are the fundamentals a Linux administrator must do daily .....
[05:44] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, This is ubuntu support.
[05:44] <babinlonston> yes that what im asking u , im too using ubutnu :)
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, Fine, however it is a question more suited for at the least #ubuntu-offtopic this channel is for actual issues, if you have one continue.
[05:46] <babinlonston> k
[05:48] <SwedeMike> ml
[05:48] <SwedeMike> oops
[05:52] <carbon60> Is there an easy way to dump a list of installed package versions? I'd like to compare two systems to see which packages are different.
[05:52] <El_Quedro> dpkg -l ?
[05:52] <wilee-nilee> carbon60, dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages
[05:53] <carbon60> dpkg -l should work
[05:53] <joyson> lul
[05:54] <mm12> hi all
[05:54] <mm12> whens ubuntu taking over windows  it should
[05:55] <wilee-nilee> mm12, #ubuntu-offtopic is your channel
[05:57] <mm12> ok here on wille
[05:57] <mm12> willee
[05:57] <mm12> how come my screen freezes everytime i do the full updates
[05:58] <wilee-nilee> mm12, What is the chip and ram?
[05:58] <mm12> gskill...32gig on board
[05:59] <wilee-nilee> mm12, Hard to say without any real details.
[05:59] <mm12> only when i do the full update not the partial
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> mm12, Never run a partial.
[06:00] <mm12> last time i did it i ran compiz and it froze could it be that
[06:01] <wilee-nilee> mm12, Hard to say, but partials can leave out dependencies...etc.
[06:01] <mm12> dont get me wrong i like ubuntu very much just trying to find why it does it
[06:02] <DoverMo> mm12, are you questioning the godliness of ubuntu D: ?!
[06:02] <mm12> no lol
[06:02] <DoverMo> mm12, good D: *wipes sweat off brow*
[06:03] <For-Odin> does anyone know if there is a way to make fans quieter on ubuntu? my cpu fan is stuck on max rpms...
[06:04] <datakanja> Hello: i have a timing issue at login i couldnt resolve on my own: i want to start firefox automatically AFTER initializing my ramdisk by script, the latter only works, if i start it by hand, which i do not understand
[06:04] <joyson> how to enable firewall in ubuntu?
[06:05] <Ben64> !ufw | joyson
[06:06] <aeon-ltd> datakanja: have you tried adding delays in?
[06:06] <PepperoniPizza> Ben64, ever get your wifi working ?
[06:06] <joyson> thank u @ubottu
[06:06] <datakanja> aeon-ltd: yes, didnt help
[06:06] <Ben64> PepperoniPizza: heh, yeah. installed ubuntu-gnome 13.10
[06:06] <PepperoniPizza> joyson, it isn't a person
[06:06] <joyson> ok
[06:06] <PepperoniPizza> Ben64, is that the unstable new version ?
[06:06] <Ben64> yep
[06:07] <PepperoniPizza> ahh
[06:07] <PepperoniPizza> glad it  works for ya
[06:07] <Ben64> dunno what was up with 12.04 but it did not want to work with any method
[06:07] <netlar> How are the nVidia drivers with Ubuntu?
[06:07] <PepperoniPizza> Ben64, thats how linux is some times
[06:07] <PepperoniPizza> netlar, they are fine
[06:07] <Ben64> i blame broadcom
[06:07] <PepperoniPizza> Ben64, broadcom is crap
[06:07] <netlar> PepperoniPizza: they do 3d games too?
[06:07] <ffio> i don't have a grub.conf file, how can i generate that file ?
[06:08] <PepperoniPizza> netlar, the proprietary ones can
[06:08] <joyson> is it possible to block some words while chating in xchat using firewall?
[06:08] <Ben64> ffio: should already exist or you can't boot into ubuntu
[06:08] <netlar> PepperoniPizza: I am thinking to getting a card that will let me have no trouble
[06:08] <PepperoniPizza> netlar, I think you can get any nvidia card as long as you use the proprietary drivers
[06:08] <wilee-nilee> ffio, What's the actual goal here?
[06:08] <Ben64> netlar: any recent nvidia card should be fine. i have a gtx 650ti and it works great
[06:08] <PepperoniPizza> which are like a 1 click install in ubuntu
[06:09] <DoverMo> ffio, apt-get install grub should auto configure grub. then run grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg and make sure it detects your current kernel
[06:09] <netlar> Ben64: I made the mistake of getting an amd card
[06:09] <PepperoniPizza> Ben64, netlar I am using a gt 430 for my media machine and it works fine also
[06:09] <netlar> Just had read that amd is more open with Linux
[06:09] <PepperoniPizza> and that is *old*
[06:10] <Ben64> netlar: they're working on it, but in my opinion, nvidia is still the way to go with linux
[06:10] <gene_> hello
[06:10] <PepperoniPizza> Ben64, agreed for sure
[06:10] <PepperoniPizza> I feel like nvidia is the way to go in general ;-P
[06:10] <DoverMo> ffio, if the grub-mkconfig command fails, or your current kernel wasn't detected, you'll have to manually config it
[06:10] <netlar> Ben64: Can I swap out the video card and not have to reinstall ubuntu?
[06:10] <Ben64> netlar: correct
[06:10] <mumpitzel> netlar: what videocard do you have? and yes you can switch the videocard
[06:11] <netlar> I have a Radeon HD 7750
[06:11] <Ben64> netlar: you could switch the whole computer and not have to reinstall, linux is cool like that :)
[06:11] <mumpitzel> netlar: and what is the problem with it?
[06:12] <gene_> I downloaded ubuntu 64bit version, burned it to a CD, disabled fast startup, when i restart it just boots up to windows
[06:12] <DoverMo> Ben64, i have my ooboots on a external hd
[06:12] <ikonia> gene_: it's not booting from cd - or the cd did not burn correctly
[06:12] <netlar> mumpitzel: Well I have to use the open source driver, because it looks like they do not have a working linux drver
[06:12] <wilee-nilee> gene_, You check the link at the ubuntu forum I gave you?
[06:12] <gene_> Can you send it again?
[06:12] <netlar> mumpitzel: so not 3d gaming, but have several other problems with it
[06:13] <wilee-nilee> gene_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295 ikonia is great help as well
[06:13] <ffio> Ben64: it's not there, but i am able to boot, i have boot.cfg file instead.
[06:13] <netlar> mumpitzel: I get a low graphics message sometimes when I boot
[06:13] <mumpitzel> netlar: they do. you cain install one via ubuntu itself
[06:13] <ffio> wilee-nilee: the grub is pointing to wrong windows partition.
[06:13] <netlar> mumpitzel: other times, i get a blank screen with just a prompt
[06:13] <wilee-nilee> ffio, You have any clones on there?
[06:13] <ffio> DoverMo: following what you said.
[06:14] <ffio> wilee-nilee: clones ?
[06:14] <wilee-nilee> ffio, The two same OS
[06:14] <netlar> mumpitzel: I tried to install the ati driver, but did not let me finish the installation
[06:14] <ffio> i only have grub.cfg file.
[06:14] <Ben64> ffio: can you do "ls -l /boot/grub/grub.cfg" and paste the result
[06:14] <ffio> wilee-nilee: no only ubuntu and win
[06:14] <ffio> Ben64: ok
[06:14] <wilee-nilee> ffio, Have you run sudo update-grub
[06:14] <Pande> hi there
[06:15] <Pande> i need assistance with install if anyone has the time
[06:15] <gene_> I cant find secure boot in my bios
[06:15] <xiaclo> I am trying to run a django unit test and it runs the test fine, but freezes afterwards, I have debugged  it a bit, and it freezes when it runs call_command('flush') in _fixture_teardown.  Is there any way to prevent this?
[06:15] <wilee-nilee> !details | Pande
[06:15] <ffio> wilee-nilee: sudo update-grub creates grub.cfg file not grub.conf
[06:15] <Pande> yeah, getting there
[06:15] <Pande> just typing it
[06:15] <netlar> mumpitzel: I tried to follow the instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:16] <ffio> wilee-nilee: and it detects win and linux both of them.
[06:16] <Pande> dell xps 15z (the dreaded nvidia machine), so far I've gotten just past the Ubuntu 12.04 screen with the four dots, using nomodeset acpi=noirq nolsomething and nosomething, sorry forgot those ones but they are in the options list. you know them im sure
[06:16] <wilee-nilee> ffio, It would add the windows partition to the grub menu if all is good.
[06:16] <Pande> after the ubuntu dots screen, i get a command prompt
[06:16] <Pande> ubuntu@ubuntu:~@
[06:16] <Pande> no indication of what it wants me to type
[06:16] <ffio> wilee-nilee: let me reboot and try
[06:16] <Pande> after a certain amount of time, it goes ahead and continues anyway
[06:17] <Pande> to a completely black screen
[06:17] <Pande> and from there goes no where
[06:17] <Ben64> Pande: please use one line
[06:17] <netlar> mumpitzel: Could not get past the sudo aticonfig --initial command
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | Pande
[06:17] <mumpitzel> netlar: so you downloaded drivers from amd.com?
[06:17] <Pande> i'm aware wilee, i said i used it
[06:18] <netlar> mumpitzel: No I used the sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle command
[06:18] <Pande> i used nomodeset and acpi=noirq as non-default available options, plus the 2nd and 3rd option,  'no and nol' and i forget the other letters sorry
[06:18] <netlar> mumpitzel: Not the right way to do it?
[06:18] <Pande> ah, apic
[06:18] <Pande> nolapic and noapic
[06:18] <wilee-nilee> Pande, Cool, missed it, have you checked the sum of the medium?
[06:18] <Pande> the whodawhata? :D
[06:19] <Pande> what numbers am i summing?
[06:19] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum
[06:20] <Pande> would be fine except i have only windows and mac to do this on, since obviously ubuntu isnt installing
[06:20] <Pande> so how do i check the md5 sum on either of those?
[06:20] <wilee-nilee> Pande, read the link
[06:20] <Pande> derp
[06:20] <Pande> yeah
[06:20] <Pande> just did
[06:20] <Pande> xd
[06:20] <FloodBot1> Pande: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:20] <Pande> lord almighty a flood warning? srsly?
[06:21] <Pande> better option is to get a flood amalgamater
[06:21]  * wilee-nilee feels like a kindergarten teacher.
[06:21] <Pande> anyway thats neither here nor there
[06:21] <netlar> mumpitzel: I am downloading now
[06:21] <mumpitzel> netlar: the amd.com drivers are not so good
[06:21] <netlar> mumpitzel: oh, no?
[06:22] <Pande> md5 checks out :s
[06:22] <netlar> mumpitzel: So if I am going to use nVidia if I am going to use the binaries?
[06:22] <Pande> would you recommend I try the acpi=off? I'm a bit scared of it
[06:22] <mumpitzel> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Installation_via_the_Ubuntu_repositories
[06:23] <netlar> mumpitzel: Yes, tried to follow that already
[06:24] <netlar> mumpitzel: could not get past the point of generating a xorg.conf file
[06:24] <Pande> i did it anyway, same result with acpi=off
[06:25] <Pande> can anyone tell me what the purpose of the command prompt after the dot screen is? all resources online say that after the dots screen the installer should appear with a gui, clearly something wants attention before that happens but it doesnt say what it wants me to do. perhaps its a diagnostic tool, in which case is there documentation for how to use it?
[06:26] <holstein> Pande: the dot screen?
[06:26] <DoverMo> holstein, they mean the splash
[06:27] <netlar> mumpitzel: I wonder if it is because I have no current xorg.conf file
[06:27] <mumpitzel> netlar: you wonder wrongly.
[06:27] <mm12> what good p2p for ubuntu
[06:27] <netlar> mumpitzel: ha ha ok
[06:27] <netlar> mumpitzel: I do wonder why I have no xorg.conf file
[06:28] <mumpitzel> cause Xorg doesn't need one normally
[06:28] <netlar> ok
[06:28] <Pande> holstein: the ubuntu 12.04 loading screen, which says Ubuntu 12.04 with 4 white/orange dots under it, purple background
[06:28] <netlar> mumpitzel: So I do not need to do the sudo aticonfig --initial step?
[06:29] <mumpitzel> it should install via "Hardware drivers" automatically
[06:30] <netlar> mumpitzel: are the fglrx packages better than the amd.com ones?
[06:31] <mumpitzel> they are generally more ubuntu compatible. amd ones are a different repo: how do you know they work with your ubuntu version. you might need them sometimes if your card is too new for your ubuntu release but that's not the case here
[06:32] <DoverMo> Pande, that's the splash screen. If you boot to a command prompt, that means the live os didn't load properly for some reason
[06:32] <Pande> that doesnt surprise me :D
[06:32] <Pande> so what can i type in that command prompt to diagnose the issue?
[06:32] <netlar> mumpitzel: Can I just change drivers in the Additional Drivers?
[06:32] <Pande> is there any sort of scan/check command?
[06:34] <DoverMo> Pande, you could try something like "sudo service lightdm start/restart" but the system might freeze if there's something wrong still
[06:35] <Pande> is the above mass exodus a netsplit or just a fluke? I'm just wondering if im missing any messages here
[06:35] <Pande> after the command prompt, or if i type anything ( i tried startx for example) it just goes black
[06:35] <DoverMo> Pande, that's for trying to get the system to boot up properly.
[06:35] <DoverMo> Pande, did you try the lightdm service?
[06:35] <Pande> ill give that line a shot
[06:35] <Pande> no thats the first i've heard of it
[06:36] <Pande> i just tried startx thats all
[06:36] <Pande> startx just spat a bunch of text which whizzed by so fast i couldnt tell what it was
[06:36] <Pande> srsly what happened to the days of 'press any key to continue' to gie you time to read those things :D
[06:37] <Pande> do i literally type start/restart or pick one of those?
[06:37] <DoverMo> Pande, sorry, pick one
[06:37] <Pande> ok
[06:37] <Pande> ill do start?
[06:38] <DoverMo> Pande, sure
[06:39] <Pande> just went directly to black screen after doing sudo service lightdm start
[06:39] <Pande> looks as if this is going to be the same fate as fedora
[06:39] <DoverMo> Pande, aw. My bad
[06:40] <Pande> never saw the light of the pixel on my computer
[06:40] <Pande> no no not at all
[06:40] <Pande> worth a shot
[06:40] <Pande> thank you
[06:40] <DoverMo> Pande, why don't you try 13.04 though?
[06:40] <Pande> i like the idea of hardware stability, im already on a machine which is well known for not liking linux
[06:40] <DoverMo> Pande, you should restart in case anything was called into that tty that needs to be shut off
[06:40] <Pande> but other reason is atm, i cant download a file that big
[06:40] <Pande> i already have the 12.04 i downloaded on the weekend at uni
[06:41] <Pande> theres no other option, i had to power it off after that black screen, so yeah it's restarted now
[06:41] <Pande> er, off now
[06:41] <DoverMo> Pande, does apt-get work?
[06:41] <Pande> what is / how to use it?
[06:41] <Pande> do i just type apt-get?
[06:43] <DoverMo> Pande,  reboot into the command prompt, type "sudo apt-get install lynx" or something to check if it's working
[06:43] <Pande> sure
[06:43] <moose-machine> hi. just wondering. is it ok to install 64 bit distro in my netbook powered by Intel Atom 1 GB processor?
[06:43] <Pande> anyway i can get to command prompt before splash screen? (splash takes ages)
[06:44] <DoverMo> Pande, I think ubuntu comes with wireless-tools. So at the very very worst, you could install your own ubuntu via command line xD
[06:44] <Pande> sounds fun :D
[06:44] <DoverMo> Pande, and by install, i mean build your own
[06:45] <Pande> well i think the install is not so much the issue as the hardware.. even if i built my own it would still have the same issues
[06:45] <wilee-nilee> moose-machine, what is the computer and how much ram?
[06:45] <Pande> the black screen is a dead giveaway that its trying to use nvidia card driver now (instead of bios default)
[06:45] <netlar> Do I need to remove the open source video drivers before using fglrx?
[06:45] <Pande> so i have to solve that problem first i think
[06:46] <Pande> apt get is full of 'failed to fetch' remarks
[06:46] <Pande> @ DoverMo
[06:46] <DoverMo> Pande, alright, so that means you have it loaded at least
[06:47] <Pande> any way to stop the command line from timing out?
[06:47] <Pande> it keeps going to black screen after what appears to be 30 seconds
[06:47] <Pande> regardless of whether i type anything
[06:47] <moose-machine> wilee-nilee: ASUS eee pc r101. RAM: 1GB
[06:48] <DoverMo> Pande, you can use "nouveau.modeset=0" if nvidia loading wasn't disabled for some reason
[06:48] <Pande> alright
[06:48] <Pande> in addition to or instead of nomodeset?
[06:49] <DoverMo> Pande, try it on it's own first, then both
[06:49] <Pande> also i've seen nvidia.nomodeset=0 on a forum, is that same idea as nouveau?
[06:49] <DoverMo> Pande, yeah since nouveau is the default nvidia module now a days
[06:49] <wilee-nilee> moose-machine, Not really a good setup for 64 bit, 32 runs fine, I would bump the ram to the max, and consider a lighter desktop as it is. depending on what you want to run all at once.
[06:50] <moose-machine> wilee-nilee: ok. thanks for that. i was thinking of Arch with xmonad
[06:50] <wilee-nilee> arch is nice
[06:51] <Pande> no changes DoverMo
[06:51] <DoverMo> Pande, ;A;
[06:51] <Pande> ikr
[06:51] <Pande> grrrr
[06:51] <Pande> but its so hard to get mad at free stuff
[06:51] <Pande> frustrated maybe
[06:52] <Pande> there needs to exist a linux bar where you just go in, buy someone a beer, and they install linux for you with no hitches
[06:52] <DoverMo> Pande, xD
[06:53] <Pande> just after the splash is done loading, i get a really brief (dispears in a half second) error message
[06:53] <Pande> a bunch of FFFFFFFx0 type stuff
[06:53] <utfans05> where would you put a synergy and xrandr config if you wanted it to start on boot?
[06:53] <Pande> sure i saw the word 'fail' in there too
[06:53] <Pande> once again tho, no idea because i coudlnt read it :S
[06:54] <DoverMo> Pande, do you have dual gpus?
[06:54] <Pande> yes
[06:54] <DoverMo> Pande, did you check the bios to select integrated or discrete?
[06:55] <Pande> will that affect windows too?
[06:55] <Pande> ill check bios now regardless
[06:55] <DoverMo> Pande, as dual, meaning 2 seperate gpus on a laptop?
[06:56] <Pande> yes
[06:56] <Pande> nvidia geforce m525 and intel hd 4k i think
[06:57] <Pande> im not seeing anything for video card in bios
[06:57] <Pande> closest looking thing is Integrated NIC
[06:57] <DoverMo> Pande, do you see anything about the display/monitor?
[06:58] <DoverMo> Pande, do a google search of your laptop to see if there's a option in the bios
[06:59] <Pande> apprently dell xps15z doesnt have the option in bios
[06:59] <DoverMo> Pande, darn
[07:00] <Pande> nouveau.blacklist=1 yay/nay?
[07:00] <Pande> from
[07:00] <Pande> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau/+question/179231
[07:01] <DoverMo> Pande, try one with both modeset=0 blacklist=1
[07:03] <Pande> damnit i did blacklist=0
[07:03] <Pande> >.<
[07:03] <Pande> ... so close...
[07:04] <Pande> gonna let it go ahead with modeset=0 anyway
[07:05] <Pande> what should i put in the command prompt to continue past it?
[07:05] <Pande> i feel like startx isnt the right one
[07:05] <netlar> Do I need to blacklist my open source video driver before using fglrx?
[07:07] <DoverMo> Pande, did you try ctrl alt f7?
[07:07] <Pande> in the command prompt?
[07:07] <DoverMo> pande, yeah
[07:08] <Pande> wait, somethings happening o.0
[07:08] <Pande> HDA intel PCH HDMI/DP
[07:08] <Pande> bunch of random stuff about intel hardware
[07:08] <Pande> ctrl alt f7 no effect btw
[07:08] <Pande> er
[07:08] <Pande> actually
[07:08] <DoverMo> Pande, F7 is supposed to be where the live OS shows up
[07:08] <Pande> it types a ~
[07:08] <Pande> o.0
[07:08] <Pande> weird
[07:08] <FloodBot1> Pande: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:11] <DoverMo> Pande, the only other thing I could think of without getting a new iso, is to install a basic system from the command line with networking
[07:11] <Pande> funny how i was able to get a hackintosh working more easily than ubuntu :D
[07:11] <DoverMo> Pande, cool
[07:11] <Pande> i dont want to bother with that, i believe the real issue is elsewhere
[07:11] <Pande> well, until i broke the hackintosh
[07:11] <Pande> within 3 hours
[07:11] <Pande> xd
[07:12] <Pande> damn its late. i surrender. i'll try again another day
[07:12] <Pande> gnite and thanks for your help
[07:12] <DoverMo> Pande, the point is to install the system. you can still do that from the command line
[07:13] <iDrofox> hello, i install ubuntu and now my windows 7 us showing "windows 7 boot selection failed required device inaccessible" ??
[07:16] <monkwitdafunk> Hi idrofox
[07:17] <monkwitdafunk> You should try to recognize what grub looks like
[07:18] <monkwitdafunk> For windows support you can visit search.microsoft.com
[07:19] <skr5e> Hi I'm using LM15 (comparable to Ubuntu 13.04), having an issue with installing vmware
[07:20] <monkwitdafunk> Grub can look very diffrent depending on who programmed grub which is not the default appearance. You should be able to see isolinux... i think
[07:20] <monkwitdafunk> Hi skr5e
[07:21] <monkwitdafunk> Are you trying to install a debian package????
[07:21] <skr5e> monkwithdafunk, not entirely sure what that means but I don't think I am
[07:22] <skr5e> unless there is a separate debian package version of vmware that won't work on Linux Mint
[07:22] <monkwitdafunk> Ok. For an operatibg system i wouldnt be personally interested if LM15 is not on distrowatch.com
[07:23] <JC-lynks> skr5e: try with package from debian unstable
[07:23] <monkwitdafunk> Except tin hat linux. Maybe
[07:24] <skr5e> I'm a recent windows 7 convert, all this talk about debian packages is kind of foreign to me...
[07:24] <monkwitdafunk> Skr5e, distrowatch.com has html over web that they call the package management cheat sheat
[07:25] <farbod> hi
[07:25] <monkwitdafunk> Html over web as in what you see in your web browser
[07:25] <farbod> help me
[07:25] <farbod> please
[07:25] <DoverMo> farbod, *helps you* good now?
[07:25] <JC-lynks> farbod: ?
[07:26] <monkwitdafunk> Hi farbod, how may freenode assist you?
[07:26] <farbod> i want a postal kart from a country
[07:26] <DoverMo> skr5e, what iss your problem anyway? dependency error?
[07:26] <farbod> from usa or germani
[07:26] <Gilligan94> what is the name of the wine irc channel?
[07:27] <farbod> who live in usa or germany?
[07:27] <farbod> please:d
[07:27] <monkwitdafunk> Try using the web gilligan94 if your freenode luck runs out
[07:27] <DoverMo> Gilligan94, #winehq
[07:27] <farbod> dovormo: help
[07:27] <skr5e> DoverMo, I installed VMWare, but when I open it, I get a screen that says Kernel headers for <IP_ADDRESS> were not found
[07:28] <farbod> helppppppppppppppppppp
[07:28] <JC-lynks> skr5e: sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[07:29] <monkwitdafunk> Skr5e, did you get a chance to generate a report usibg hardinfo aka system profiler and benchmark
[07:29] <Nimble> is there an up to date version of the messaging menu documentation?
[07:30] <skr5e> monkwitdafunk, please talk to me like I'm dumb
[07:31] <skr5e> sudo apt-get install linux-headers results in an error: resource tempo unavailable
[07:31] <monkwitdafunk> Umm... hardinfo also known as system profiler and benchmark can generate a report in the html or txt format which gives you a thumbs up for a successful install of ubuntu
[07:31] <zipper_> I'm building postgres from source and I have to go through a process where I adduser postgresql. Is there any special name I should enter when I get this: Enter the new value, or press ENTER for the default
[07:31] <zipper_> Full Name []:
[07:31] <zipper_>  Which default full name might this be?
[07:32] <Coburn> zipper_: just press enter to accept defaults ;)
[07:32] <zipper_> Coburn will thedefault name be postgresql if I do this?
[07:32] <JC-lynks> skr5e: your apt sources list is unavaliable.... network problem?
[07:32] <Coburn> nothing
[07:33] <Coburn> Full Name doesn't have be filled out
[07:33] <monkwitdafunk> Hardinfo! Thatll tell you about your network
[07:33] <Gilligan94_> sorry, dropped out. is there a WINE irc channel?
[07:33] <zipper_> Coburn and that will not cause any future unexpected problems with postgres?
[07:33] <DoverMo> Gilligan94_, #winehq
[07:33] <Gilligan94_> DoverMo: thanks
[07:34] <Gilligan94_> #wine is a private channel for some reason
[07:35] <skr5e> must be winos
[07:35] <Coburn> could be because thety discuss wine and be merry?
[07:35] <skr5e> JC-lynks, I don't think it's a network problem...internet is working ok
[07:35] <netlar> I changed to the propritary drivers, but now it does not fill up the screen
[07:35] <Coburn> skr5e: what's the error
[07:36] <skr5e> monkwithdafunk, tried installing hardinfo (not included in LM15) but still get the same resource unavailable
[07:36] <netlar> That means that the driver does not support my hardware?
[07:36] <Coburn> waht driver is this neekz0r
[07:36] <Coburn> oops
[07:36] <Coburn> netlar:
[07:36] <netlar> fglrx driver
[07:36] <monkwitdafunk> Ubuntu channel, i know that software controls the hardware but how can i use two computers on a LAN with one beibg a file server and one being ubuntu 12.04.2?
[07:36] <DoverMo> bah
[07:36] <Coburn> netlar: what program
[07:37] <DoverMo> skr5e, please tell us the exact error
[07:37] <netlar> Coburn: the whole os
[07:37] <Coburn> you mean it looks letterboxed, netlar?
[07:37] <skr5e> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:37] <skr5e> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:37] <netlar> Coburn: yes
[07:37] <Coburn> Or "zoomed out"
[07:37] <Coburn> netlar: check your resolution
[07:37] <DoverMo> skr5e, ok that's easy to fix. just reboot which will fix that
[07:38] <netlar> Coburn: I did
[07:38] <JC-lynks> skr5e: you have package manager open, and lock te resource
[07:38] <netlar> Coburn: made it look stretched of fuzzy
[07:38] <JC-lynks> skr5e: close all package manager
[07:38] <DoverMo> skr5e, then when you get back on, do 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-headers'
[07:38] <Coburn> netlar: hmmm... laptop or desktop?
[07:38] <skr5e> oh, actually yes it was package manager
[07:38] <netlar> desktop
[07:38] <JC-lynks> skr5e: if continues locket, restart
[07:38] <skr5e> MAn I feel like such a noob :(
[07:38] <Coburn> netlar: graphics card model?
[07:38] <Coburn> lol skr5e
[07:39] <netlar> Radeon HD 7750
[07:39] <Coburn> I was going to say, try delete /var/lib/dpkg/lock if you want
[07:39] <JC-lynks> skr5e: :)
[07:39] <Coburn> netlar: hmm... I use a HD7790 and auto-config worked fine for me (set my res to 1080p).
[07:39] <Coburn> Do you have a program that allows you to set resolutions?
[07:39] <netlar> 1080p by what Coburn
[07:40] <Coburn> 1920 x 1080
[07:40] <netlar> Yes, that is what I am set at
[07:40] <skr5e> ok doing a hardinfo report
[07:41] <skr5e> so what should I be looking for in the report?
[07:41] <netlar> Coburn: Are you using the fglrx driver?
[07:41] <Coburn> netlar: yes
[07:41] <Coburn> netlar: I don't get why it's burry. Does your monitor have a auto adjust?
[07:41] <Coburn> It's a button that says "AUTO", "ADJUST"
[07:41] <Coburn> or something in the OSD Menu
[07:42] <monkwitdafunk> Skr5e, if you can generate  a report, you successfully did an install of ubuntu
[07:42] <netlar> Coburn: Well I tried the fglrx and said hardware is not supported , so I used the fglrx-updates, and the watermark is not on screen
[07:42] <skr5e> oh, well that's good
[07:42] <Coburn> wait.... fglrx said hardware not supported??
[07:42] <Coburn> Weird
[07:43] <netlar> Coburn: Yea had a watermark at bottom of screen
[07:43] <Coburn> Is your monitor CRT or LCD?
[07:43] <netlar> lcd
[07:43] <monkwitdafunk> However, the details of the hardinfo may tell the user to gain more functionality from the users software install
[07:43] <Coburn> what brand?
[07:43] <netlar> ASUS
[07:43] <Coburn> Have you tried the auto-adjust thing I mentioned?
[07:43] <netlar> looked did not see it
[07:44] <Coburn> weird...
[07:44] <Coburn> Well, I'm about to leave the office, so I'm going to have to pass the issue onto someone else, so have a good one folks
[07:44] <monkwitdafunk> So nobody knows what package goes hand in hand with a file server?
[07:44] <skr5e> so here's what it says when I enter sudo apt-get install linux-headers..
[07:44] <netlar> Coburn: thanks anyway
[07:44] <Coburn> monkwitdafunk: samba
[07:44] <skr5e> skr5e@skr5e ~ $ sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[07:44] <skr5e> Reading package lists... Done
[07:44] <skr5e> Building dependency tree
[07:44] <skr5e> Reading state information... Done
[07:44] <skr5e> Package linux-headers is a virtual package provided by:
[07:44] <FloodBot1> skr5e: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:45] <Coburn> netlar: no prob.
[07:45] <netlar> Coburn: I will just go back to open source driver
[07:45] <netlar> Coburn: Maybe it was way I install the driver?
[07:45] <skr5e> oops didn't mean to flood
[07:45] <Coburn> netlar: yeah.. funny why your hd7750 says not supported...
[07:45] <Coburn> netlar: I think there's one other way, but it's command line and without X running
[07:46] <netlar> Coburn: I just used the additional drivers section on the gui
[07:46] <Coburn> OK
[07:46] <skr5e> I notice that generic <IP_ADDRESS> isn't listed..
[07:46] <JC-lynks> skr5e: dpkg -l | grep linux-headers
[07:46] <netlar> Coburn: so what is the othr way
[07:47] <skr5e> skr5e@skr5e ~ $ dpkg -l | grep linux-headers
[07:47] <skr5e> ii  linux-headers-3.8.0-19                      3.8.0-19.30                          all          Header files related to Linux kernel version 3.8.0
[07:47] <skr5e> ii  linux-headers-3.8.0-19-generic              3.8.0-19.30                          amd64        Linux kernel headers for version 3.8.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP
[07:47] <skr5e> ii  linux-headers-3.8.0-26                      3.8.0-26.38                          all          Header files related to Linux kernel version 3.8.0
[07:47] <skr5e> ii  linux-headers-3.8.0-26-generic              3.8.0-26.38                          amd64        Linux kernel headers for version 3.8.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP
[07:47] <FloodBot1> skr5e: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:47] <skr5e> ii  linux-headers-generic                       <IP_ADDRESS>.44                          amd64        Generic Linux kernel headers
[07:47] <Coburn> skr5e: don't copy paste into irc, use the link provided
[07:47] <Coburn> netlar: it involves aticonfig and a few other things.
[07:47] <monkwitdafunk> Does anybody have a comment on ubuntu one, the cloud storage entity?
[07:48] <skr5e> ah, ok got it
[07:48] <netlar> Coburn: Guess another time then
[07:48] <Coburn> Never used it, I don't trust Canacol
[07:48] <JC-lynks> skr5e: i thing you have kernel headers installed
[07:48] <Coburn> netlar: tomorrow if you're around
[07:48] <Coburn> :)
[07:48] <netlar> Coburn: I am, what time , during day?
[07:48] <Coburn> what timezone are you
[07:48] <JC-lynks> donm't understand with vmware..... try with virtualbox
[07:48] <netlar> Out west
[07:48] <Coburn> I'm GMT + 10
[07:49] <netlar> almost 1 am here now
[07:49] <Coburn> I'll ping you when I'm in the office ;)
[07:49] <netlar> cool, thanks again
[07:49] <Coburn> np
[07:49] <Coburn> Gotta scoot for reals, my ride is waiting, so ja ne
[07:49] <netlar> You have given me some hope, lol
[07:54] <skr5e> So I'm entering the path where the headers are (/usr/src/linux-headers<IP_ADDRESS>-generic)
[07:54] <skr5e> error: C header files matching your running kernel were not found
[07:55] <JC-lynks> skr5e: ls -la /usr/src/linux-headers
[07:55] <JC-lynks> skr5e: try with symlink from your headers to /usr/src/linux-headers
[07:56] <skr5e> try with symlink? O_o do I need to hack into NASA to do that?
[07:57] <ikonia> skr5e: please stop being illy
[07:59] <skr5e> ok sorry I'm just trying to emphasize that I'm not versed in any linux jargon at all
[07:59] <ikonia> skr5e: right, so that has nothing to do with the NSA, so rather than try to make a foolish comment just say "I don't know"
[08:00] <skr5e> point taken
[08:00] <ikonia> no problem, thank you
[08:02] <skr5e> here's running ls -la
[08:02] <skr5e> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5886787/
[08:03] <ikonia> skr5e: what are you actually wanting to do ?
[08:03] <ikonia> sorry if I've missed the point of your question
[08:04] <smallmouse> can someone assist please i have .skype, .skype_profile1 and skype_profile2 (copies of skype).  when i do this command does not work skype –dbpath=~/.Skype_profile1 ?
[08:04] <ikonia> smallmouse: please define " does not work"
[08:04] <monkwitdafunk> Hi smallmouse
[08:04] <skr5e> ikonia, I installed vmware, upon opening it I get an error message about the headers not being installed even though they are
[08:04] <ikonia> skr5e: what's the error you get ?
[08:04] <smallmouse> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/bzUqsjU1
[08:05] <auronandace> smallmouse: also be aware of case sensitive
[08:05] <smallmouse> monkwitdafunk: http://pastebin.com/bzUqsjU1
[08:05] <monkwitdafunk> Smallmouse, you need to identify the skype website, the debian package on the skype website and have a functional ubuntu system
[08:05] <ikonia> smallmouse: I suspect skype won't open even without the -dbpath option
[08:05] <smallmouse> monkwitdafunk: skype is working all ok... just the replicated options
[08:06] <monkwitdafunk> Ok. Lemme see
[08:06] <inashdeen> hi there, I am using ubuntu 13.04 on acer aspire v5 471pg. issue : touch loss ability to tap-to-click for unknown reason. anybody got the script or fix for this?
[08:06] <smallmouse> ikonia: I have one instance open, just the other ones i need to runn concurrently..cant seem to get them to work
[08:06] <ikonia> smallmouse: undefined symbol: menu_proxy_module_load suggests the function it is trying to load is not compatible with the libraries you are using
[08:06] <ikonia> smallmouse: basically it's referencing something that's not there
[08:07] <smallmouse> monkwitdafunk: if I run skype --secondary does work but...it wont retain the password information and log in.
[08:07] <skr5e> ikonia: Kernel headers for version <IP_ADDRESS> generic were not found. Then below there's a box where you can specify the path in case they have been installed, and when I do I get the error "C header files matching your running kernel were not found."
[08:07] <smallmouse> monkwitdafunk: so i can open skype, run the command skype --secondary twice and I get 3 instances of skype up with the option of different user names
[08:08] <auronandace> skr5e: what kernel are you running?
[08:08] <smallmouse> monkwitdafunk: but ideally I need the password and log in details of each instance saved
[08:08] <ikonia> I suspect this is going to be a vmware bug not dealing with -genric on the end or something like that
[08:09] <ikonia> the header check is basically a shell script
[08:09] <przemek> Hi, i need libruby1.9.1, but ubu server returns error. Where can i find this package ?? http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/r/ruby1.9.1/libruby1.9.1_<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu1.4_amd64.deb
[08:09] <auronandace> skr5e: 3.8.0-19 is likely the kernel at release (current version is now 3.8.0-26)
[08:09] <ikonia> przemek: you can find that package in the repo - as you've just provided a link to it
[08:09] <monkwitdafunk> Sorry smallmouse. I cannot teach anybody the linux terminal other than networking tools
[08:10] <skr5e> aurondace, does that mean updating the kernel might solve the problem?
[08:10] <przemek> ikonia: No, it doesnt find package for me ..
[08:10] <ikonia> monkwitdafunk: who is asking you to teach the linux terminal ?
[08:10] <ikonia> przemek: what version of ubuntu are you running ?
[08:10] <ikonia> !info libruby
[08:10] <przemek> ikonia: Linux Mint 14
[08:10] <ikonia> przemek: right - so why are you asking for ubuntu help
[08:10] <auronandace> skr5e: i just wanted to check you aren't running a newer kernel and trying to use the older headers
[08:11] <ikonia> !mint | przemek
[08:11] <skr5e> how can i check?
[08:11] <auronandace> skr5e: uname -a
[08:11] <monkwitdafunk> Nobody is asking me to teach on the terminal. The system example uses the terminal
[08:11] <przemek> ikonia: i asked on Mint channel, but mint is developing on Ubuntu
[08:11] <skr5e> Linux skr5e 3.8.0-19-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 1 16:35:23 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:11] <przemek> Ok
[08:11] <ikonia> przemek: it's not ubuntu - it's different, we support official ubuntu version here
[08:11] <auronandace> skr5e: good stuff, all fine
[08:12] <ikonia> it will be the -generic
[08:12] <auronandace> skr5e: how come you haven't updated yet then?
[08:12] <ikonia> that's normally the issue, uname shows -generic, but the kernel headers won't have a -generic on the directory
[08:13] <skr5e> I guess I haven't updated yet because I've been busy trying to troubleshoot this problem
[08:14] <skr5e> will updating it possibly solve the issue?
[08:14] <auronandace> skr5e: when trouble shooting anything you usually start with making sure everything is up to date
[08:14] <przemek> ikonia:  Ok, thanks. But i have a question. Do you have access to this file? I need to know reason why its not available
[08:14] <auronandace> skr5e: as regards your specific issue though i'm guessing ikonia is right
[08:15] <ikonia> przemek: because it's been updated/replaced
[08:15] <ikonia> przemek: please take it to mint
[08:15] <auronandace> skr5e: still, there are bug fixes and security updates that you should get anyway
[08:15] <monkwitdafunk> Skr5e, did.you know that updating kernels will still leave the old kernel.behind?
[08:16] <skr5e> I guess taht's a good thing..alright going to look for a guide on updating kernel
[08:16] <auronandace> skr5e: you don't need a guide
[08:16] <skr5e> sudo apt-get install update?
[08:17] <auronandace> skr5e: just use the built-in software updater
[08:17] <skr5e> hmmm
[08:17] <HankMccoy> hey I got some VPN questions...
[08:17] <skr5e> i have "software manager" is that it?
[08:18] <auronandace> skr5e: if you really want to stick to the commandline then: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:19] <HankMccoy> i'm thinking about going with private internet access
[08:19] <ikonia> HankMccoy: can you explain the ubuntu question you have ?
[08:19] <HankMccoy> any thoughts or advice?
[08:19] <ikonia> HankMccoy: this channel is for ubuntu support, your question is nothing to do with ubuntu
[08:19] <HankMccoy> will it work with my OS?
[08:20] <ikonia> HankMccoy: will what ?
[08:20] <HankMccoy> some only work with windows
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> HankMccoy: you can run a VPN endpoint server if you want
[08:20] <ikonia> then get one that doesn't
[08:20] <HankMccoy> is it compatible with my operating system?
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> HankMccoy: and network manager can connect to VPN enpoints and manage the connection
[08:20] <ikonia> HankMccoy: is "what"
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> HankMccoy: what is 'it'?
[08:21] <ikonia> HankMccoy: what are you asking "is it compatible" what is "it"
[08:21] <HankMccoy> privateinternet access...
[08:21] <ikonia> HankMccoy: that is not a "thing"
[08:21] <ikonia> HankMccoy: that is a word
[08:21] <skr5e> auronadace, ran those commands...uname -a still says I'm on the old kernel
[08:21] <ikonia> HankMccoy: that is like saying "is ethernet compatible with my OS"
[08:21] <HankMccoy> is the VPN compatible with Ubuntu
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> HankMccoy: which vpn?
[08:21] <ikonia> HankMccoy: is WHAT VPN
[08:21] <ikonia> HankMccoy: there are many types of vpn
[08:21] <auronandace> skr5e: you should restart after a kernel update
[08:21] <skr5e> oh
[08:22] <skr5e> makes sense...brb
[08:22] <HankMccoy> I do not want to pay in advance only to find out it will not work...
[08:22] <ikonia> HankMccoy: you've not said what "it" is yet
[08:22] <ikonia> HankMccoy: ubuntu supports VPNS if you want to be generic
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> HankMccoy: i suggest you do a little researcj pf what you are talking about so you know at least a little, then asl
[08:22] <HankMccoy> VPN
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> *ask
[08:22] <ikonia> HankMccoy: ubuntu supports VPN's yes
[08:22] <ikonia> I can respond as generic as you can ask
[08:23] <HankMccoy> to be specific privateinternetaccess will that VPN work with my OS???
[08:23] <ikonia> HankMccoy that is not a "thing"
[08:23] <ikonia> HankMccoy: please link to the service you want to use
[08:24] <skr5e> still old kernel
[08:24] <HankMccoy> https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/buy-vpn/
[08:24] <auronandace> skr5e: then you didn't update properly
[08:24] <HankMccoy> face palm
[08:25] <ikonia> HankMccoy: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/client-support/#ubuntu_openvpn_installer
[08:25] <skr5e> odd, I ran the code exactly as you wrote it and it seemed to execute fine
[08:25] <ikonia> HankMccoy: well done on reading NOTHING on the service you are looking at buying
[08:25] <ikonia> HankMccoy: it actually has information on how to set it up with ubuntu
[08:26] <auronandace> skr5e: show me the output of uname -a
[08:26] <ikonia> whois HankMccoy
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> HankMccoy: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/client-support/#ubuntu_openvpn_installer
[08:26] <ikonia> very poor
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> HankMccoy: its right there on the damn page....
[08:26] <HankMccoy> Hey if you believe everything you read on the internet I have a bridge I want to sell you in New York
[08:26] <Takumo> Hey, anyone here managed to get logrotate and php-fpm working nicely?
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> HankMccoy: took me all of 60 seconds to find
[08:26] <ikonia> HankMccoy: it's written on the people you are buying it from
[08:26] <Jordan_U> ActionParsnip: Please watch your language and attitude.
[08:27] <ikonia> HankMccoy: you don't believe the people who make the product are telling the truth, but you are asking strangers on the net - and they will tell you the truth ?
[08:27] <skr5e> Linux skr5e 3.8.0-19-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 1 16:35:23 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: just completely exasperated
[08:27] <auronandace> skr5e: what is the output of: lsb_release -sd
[08:27] <HankMccoy> said it before I prefer the words of those who have moar knowledge than myself
[08:27] <ikonia> HankMccoy: they MAKE the product, no-one is more knowledgable than them
[08:28] <skr5e> Linux Mint 15 Olivia
[08:28] <auronandace> skr5e: we don't support mint here
[08:28] <ikonia> HankMccoy: it's THEIR private service, which have no public details on how it's setup, they give you instructions on how to use ubuntu...and you want to know if it "will work with ubuntu"
[08:28] <auronandace> !mint | skr5e
[08:28] <HankMccoy> if you have ever been in sales a sales person will tell you anything to get you to buy the product that is the goal of the sales position sales...
[08:28] <HankMccoy> sorry I asked
[08:28] <skr5e> huh? the first thing I said when I entered the chat was I'm running LM15 -_-
[08:29] <ikonia> HankMccoy: it's got instructions on how to use the product !!!!
[08:29] <ikonia> HankMccoy: it specfcially says "supports ubuntu and here is how to set it up"
[08:29] <HankMccoy> I know...... DAMN
[08:29] <skr5e> alright well thanks for trying to help anyway
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> HankMccoy: so why ask?
[08:30] <HankMccoy> thanks anyway I come here because you guys know more than me
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> handheldpenguin: the site you linked knows more than us
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> bad TAB
[08:31] <skeuomorf> guys, I had Ubuntu with Unity, I installed XFCE, LXDE and Gnome3, now I want to remove them and reconfigure the system to make it exactly like it was before, because now when booting or shutting down, I see the xubuntu boot screen and inside Unity, notifications  look weird, so How do I remove all that?
[08:31] <jacta> Does anyone have problems with connecting to msn in pidgin?
[08:32] <Takumo> didn't they discontinue msn?
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> jacta: can you ping the servers you are trying to connect to ?
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> jacta: do you use a proxy for web access?
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> jacta: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> jacta: are other web activities on the same system ok>
[08:37] <iDrofox> hello, is there any utiliy to make a windows 7 usb for ubuntu ?
[08:41] <dr_willis> i think you can just use dd to image the iso to usb
[08:41] <dr_willis> ask in #windows perhaps
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> i believe unetbootin can do it if you format to ntfs first
[08:45] <jacta> ActionParsnip: don't think pidgin is in etc
[08:46] <jacta> gateway.messenger.hotmail.com and messenger.hotmail.com seems dead
[08:48] <Nimble> jacta: I was under the impression that microsoft was phasing msn out in favor of skype
[08:48] <Nimble> if so, that might be your problem
[08:50] <m4rc> hi
[08:50] <m4rc> ive got 8gigs. what should be my swap size?
[08:51] <Nimble> do you hibernate your computer?
[08:51] <m4rc> yea
[08:51] <m4rc> no
[08:51] <m4rc> sometimes
[08:51] <DJones> m4rc: You probably won't need that much swap unless you use hibernate etc, I'd probably go with 4gb if you don't, if you do use hibernate, you'll need your swap to be at last as big as your memory
[08:51] <Nimble> I've heard that you should use anywhere from half of your RAM to your full RAM
[08:51] <dr_willis> if using hibernate/suspend    = rsm plus a bit more
[08:51] <dr_willis> ram
[08:51] <DJones> s/last/least/
[08:51] <m4rc> thanks
[08:52] <Nimble> I don't use hibernate and I have 8 GB and I have no swap
[08:52] <Nimble> no problems yet
[08:52] <dr_willis> yet....;-)
[08:52] <Nimble> going on a year now, dr_willis
[08:52] <dr_willis> famous last words.
[08:53] <Nimble> heh, maybe so
[08:53] <Nimble> I live on the edge, what can I say
[08:53] <DJones> Being honest, disk space is fairly cheap nowadays, I just set it to double my ram on a just in case basis to avoid any need to change it in future
[08:54] <DJones> Unless somebody gives me 32gb of ram, in which case I'd only have a few gb
[08:54] <pacaol> Bom dia!
[08:55] <DJones> pacaol: Welcome and good morning
[08:56] <pacaol> Comprei um ultrabook da Samsung top de linha, mandei tudo pro espaço e instalei o Ubuntu, espero que continue tudo bem, farei mais testes mais tarde depois que dormir, minha irmã me chamou de maluco e meu amigo também
[08:56] <DJones> !pt | pacaol
[08:58] <sexlove69> hi
[08:58] <SDIS> skeuomorf: sudo apt-get remove XFCE\*  LXDE\*  Gnome3\*
[09:01] <sexlove69> !!New sex tape hollywood (you must click ok Button before) >> http://apps.facebook.com/316328471834749/?referral_id=100000513678994
[09:01] <boyoyonglala> hi can i ask for help anyone?
[09:02] <pacaol> quit
[09:02] <Sling> boyoyonglala: dont ask to ask, ask :)
[09:02] <dr_willis> !ask
[09:02] <DJones> boyoyonglala: Sure, just ask you're question in the channel and if anybody can help, they normally jump in with an answer
[09:03] <boyoyonglala> ah sorry i was doing an ubuntu install on lenovo z480.... tried both ubuntu 12 and 13 , but randomly hang and cant proceed to desktop
[09:03] <LucidDreamZzZz> !hardware
[09:03] <LucidDreamZzZz> try a live cd?
[09:04] <dr_willis> is it truely random?
[09:04] <boyoyonglala> i mean it sometimes goes to desktop but sometimes it does not.... its random.... i think its the same for the live cd?
[09:04] <boyoyonglala> yes its random
[09:05] <LucidDreamZzZz> hmm
[09:05] <boyoyonglala> so i keep on rebooting just to get it
[09:05] <boyoyonglala> get in*
[09:06] <LucidDreamZzZz> what laptop a lenovo z480 maybe someone here uses??
[09:06] <boyoyonglala> yes a laptop of lenovo z480
[09:06] <boyoyonglala> i7 8gb ram
[09:06] <LucidDreamZzZz> you think it might be video related?
[09:06] <dr_willis> even the live cd had the same issue?
[09:06] <LucidDreamZzZz> HD failing?
[09:06] <greyhatpython> Hey guys why so many open source games which i like are not available in Ubuntu Software Center?
[09:06] <boyoyonglala> i'll try now if the i can replicate it on the live CD
[09:07] <boyoyonglala> video related im not sure
[09:07] <LucidDreamZzZz> hmm
[09:07] <dr_willis> !ppa
[09:07] <DJones> greyhatpython: Probably that the developer or somebody else won't have packaged them for Ubuntu
[09:07] <boyoyonglala> hd not failing it has no bad sectora whatsoever ... just bought it a few days ago
[09:08] <greyhatpython> DJones ok how to package it to ubuntu?
[09:08] <DJones> !packaging | greyhatpython
[09:08] <cmihai> greyhatpython: are they present when browsing with synaptic or apt-cache search (or when enabling additional repositories)? What games do you mean?
[09:08] <LucidDreamZzZz> why would any Linux game not be Ubuntu ready
[09:09] <dr_willis> no maintainer for it.. is one reason
[09:09] <greyhatpython> I mean like Vegastrike,  Vdrift....urban terror etc....
[09:09] <LucidDreamZzZz> yeah thats a good one...
[09:09] <greyhatpython> I am checking those links
[09:09] <LucidDreamZzZz> :)
[09:09] <dr_willis> theres allways the ppa•s
[09:09] <DJones> greyhatpython: You may find that even when something isn't in the official Ubuntu repositories, there may be a ppa for it, although ppa's arent officially supported if there are problems
[09:10] <greyhatpython> hmmmm i agree
[09:10] <dr_willis> !games
[09:10] <greyhatpython> Can you list few games which you play on Ubuntu?
[09:10] <DJones> greyhatpython: Maybe search the ppa's first
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> greyhatpython: Penumbra, UrbanTerror, Tuxcart, FrozenBubble
[09:11] <greyhatpython> Thanks!!!!!
[09:11] <DJones> greyhatpython: Minecraft
[09:11] <boyoyonglala> ok so im trying to boot the live cd but it hangs on --> _
[09:11] <boyoyonglala> just showing _
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> greyhatpython: penumbra isnt free in any way, there is a demo which is badass
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> boyoyonglala: what video chip do you use?
[09:11] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[09:11] <boyoyonglala> i think it has 2 video cards
[09:11] <boyoyonglala> a nvidia
[09:11] <boyoyonglala> and an intel
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> boyoyonglala: oh, optimus, switching gpus in a laptop?
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> boyoyonglala: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[09:12] <boyoyonglala> hot to do that?
[09:12] <boyoyonglala> how*
[09:12] <greyhatpython> ya penumbra is not free
[09:12] <dr_willis> you should  have said that first..  ;-)
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | boyoyonglala
[09:12] <boyoyonglala> sorry i did not know how it could affect
[09:12] <greyhatpython> minecraft? too old.
[09:12] <boyoyonglala> !bootoption
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> boyoyonglala: optimus can be a real headache in linux
[09:13] <boyoyonglala> omg
[09:13] <boyoyonglala> !nomodeset
[09:13] <boyoyonglala> !bootoption
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> greyhatpython: how is it old?
[09:13] <greyhatpython> if i ask u which is the addicting game in Linux which one do you Say? Free and Multiplayer/MMORPG
[09:14] <dr_willis> greyhatpython:    irc    ;-)
[09:14] <Ari-Yang> greyhatpython, this is a support channel for ubuntu......
[09:14] <xrc> greyhatpython: the new MIR server ;)
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> greyhatpython: world of warcraft runs better than windows under wine
[09:15] <socializiation> hello people, where can I get help for a problem with Facebook? Thanks
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> greyhatpython: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Upcoming_features   prerelease of Minecraft on 7th July 2013. Probably newer than any game you can name
[09:15] <greyhatpython> oops sorry minecraft is not free right?
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> greyhatpython: minecraft is free
[09:15] <Nmbr1> !ot | socializiation
[09:15] <DJones> greyhatpython: No its not free
[09:16] <greyhatpython> ya i am checking online it's not free!
[09:16] <DJones> ActionParsnip: MInecraft isn't free, there is a very old free version on the website, but it is quite a few years old
[09:16] <greyhatpython> ActionParsnip i won;t play windows games
[09:17] <dr_willis> !steam
[09:17] <Ari-Yang> greyhatpython, ever hear of LoL or WoW? I hear that those are addicted...... not sure if it's on linux yet, might be though.
[09:17] <greyhatpython> well wine is good i hate windows so no use!@
[09:17] <Ari-Yang> greyhatpython, oh and DC Universe Online.
[09:18] <greyhatpython> Ari-Yang ya i heard LOL and WOW i think they are not free!
[09:18] <DJones> Can we move the Ubuntu games discussion into #ubuntu-offtopic, its probably getting a bit too much away from specific support issues
[09:18] <greyhatpython> LOL is for Windows only! LOL!!!!! :)
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> DJones: so you don't pull down the client and run it anymore, they want cash?
[09:19] <greyhatpython> ya sure i want to play games in Ubuntu only!
[09:19] <Ph0bus> why do i need to install programs as root?
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> greyhatpython: urbanterror :)
[09:19] <DJones> ActionParsnip: Been like that for a couple of years
[09:19] <greyhatpython> ya urban terror and Open Arena are very good!
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> Ph0bus: because it is an admin task, your user doesn't have write access outside of $HOME
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> DJones: i see
[09:19] <greyhatpython> Anyway here i found 100 Games list for Ubuntu!!! http://www.cahilig.net/2011/07/29/100-best-free-and-high-quality-linux-games
[09:20] <Ph0bus> ActionParsnip: why cant i install programs in home?
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> Ph0bus: so we use 'sudo' to give you admin access and you can install apps etc
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> Ph0bus: it breaks the Linux standard, you can if you want
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> Ph0bus: it takes a lot more effort
[09:20] <dr_willis> Ph0bus:  you can
[09:20] <Nmbr1> Ph0bus: you can
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> Ph0bus: why would you want to? home is for user data, not apps
[09:21] <Ph0bus> so the programs dont run as root
[09:21] <Nmbr1> Ph0bus: no they run as whatever user starts them
[09:21] <dr_willis> they dont all run as root anyway..
[09:22] <Ph0bus> BS
[09:22] <TisButMe> Hi there, is someone avalaible to help me solve a problem with my USB 3 ports pls ?
[09:22] <Nmbr1> Ph0bus: ?
[09:22] <Ph0bus> i want to creat a user for evey program
[09:22] <dr_willis> thats silly Ph0bus
[09:22] <Nmbr1> Ph0bus: Why? And no, you don't
[09:22] <Ph0bus> its not
[09:23] <Ph0bus> security
[09:23] <dr_willis> yes it is.
[09:23] <Nmbr1> Ph0bus: if you mean running a program in a "sandbox" use chroot
[09:23] <jimy_> HI
[09:23] <dr_willis> yout security would be beter if you learned more linux fundamentals
[09:24] <Ph0bus> i want to evey program run in its owne home with its hown user with limited premissions
[09:24] <Nmbr1> Ph0bus: 1. not every install proram runs all the time 2. you need to install the program as root, not to run it 3. the program only runs with the security permissions of the user who starts it
[09:24] <Ph0bus> i dont wnat to learn anything
[09:24] <dr_willis> that. would make most of them useless
[09:24] <Nmbr1> Ph0bus: then you are in the wrong place. if you know everything you need we can't help you.
[09:24] <Ph0bus> i dont know anything
[09:25] <Ph0bus> nor do i want to
[09:25] <dr_willis> and yoi dont want to learn..  so you are trolling it seems
[09:25] <Ph0bus> i have beter thing that to fuss with foss
[09:27] <RiverRat> If anyone is interested Ph0bus just got banned from #gentoo for trolling
[09:27] <boyoyonglala> ok sorry guys
[09:27] <boyoyonglala> so im currently on live cd
[09:27] <boyoyonglala> then nomodeset.... then install ubuntu
[09:27] <boyoyonglala> but it still hangs on _
[09:27] <greyhatpython> Ari-Yang i found playdeb and installed on my ubuntu now i can install any game easily!!!!
[09:27] <Ph0bus> RiverRat: you are a snitch and a lier
[09:28] <dr_willis> !playdeb
[09:32] <vmachine3> how do i change ubuntu run level to 3 permanently
[09:32] <vmachine3> i cannot find /etc/iniittab
[09:33] <dr_willis> you dont
[09:33] <dr_willis> !runlevel
[09:34] <Ph0bus> so you cant run ubuntu as a single user
[09:34] <dr_willis> what do you want to do with runlevel 3?
[09:34] <Ph0bus> nice security
[09:34] <dr_willis> !single
[09:34] <dr_willis> you can run as a single user
[09:34] <vmachine3> i want to boot to a shell by defualt then switch to xwindows if necessary
[09:34] <dr_willis> !text
[09:35] <sh_ahmed> Any idea why QSplashScreen doesn't work in ubuntu (with PyQt, I dont' know about native implementation)?
[09:35] <sh_ahmed> http://pastebin.com/aPmmkF1F
[09:35] <vmachine3> ok thanks i will try that
[09:36] <sh_ahmed> This piece of code works in Windows, but not in Ubuntu
[09:45] <luyou> dajiahao
[09:46] <luyou> yourenbu
[09:50] <dan2003> Hi, im using 12.04 LTS and run into this problem https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49347, i'm currently building a new pkg inlcuding one of the patches from there that sounds like it will fox the problem. If it does, what are the chances of eing able to get this included into 12.04LTS updates?
[09:52] <dan2003> AS currently using a extending (multi screen) desktop where a touchscreen is used on one of them is, well unusable
[09:52] <jrib> !sru | dan2003
[09:54] <AndChat|499956> Oh cool. I like the "text" boot parameter
[09:54] <MonkeyDust> dan2003  make it a PPA and publish it somewhere, then hope someone picks it up and reviews it
[09:54] <dan2003> MonkeyDust, ok, thanks, ill try that
[09:57] <ubuntivity> Hello, I'm trying to compile (from source) pport on ubuntu server 12.04, but when I type the command "make" I get the error "No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."
[09:58]  * ubuntivity did "./configure" first
[10:01] <RiverRat> ubuntivity: Didn't ./configure generate a Makefile for you?  Did it complete successfully?
[10:02] <ubuntivity> first it told me there is no compiler, so I installed gcc, then the "./configure" script exits without error after I installed gcc
[10:03] <ubuntivity> when I first types the "make" command it told me that "make" is not installed, so I installed it.
[10:03] <dr_willis> !b-e
[10:04] <dr_willis> installed the  build-essential  package yet?
[10:05] <ubuntivity> Thanks dr_willis , ubottu , RiverRat . I'm now installing the 'build-essential' package, I'll see if that will help fix the problem
[10:06] <boyoyonglala> hi guys after reinstalling ubuntu 13 using nomodeset it still wont boot properly any ideas?
[10:07] <dr_willis> it is using nomodeset when it boots?
[10:08] <dr_willis> was this a dual gpu optimus system?
[10:08] <pogonobo> hi trying to install ubuntu 13.04 desktop with raid partition for my home directory. what is the best method to do this?
[10:08] <boyoyonglala> i'll double check
[10:08] <boyoyonglala> yes its dual gpu
[10:08] <dr_willis> !optimus
[10:08] <boyoyonglala> !optimus
[10:08] <dr_willis> !bumblebee
[10:08] <boyoyonglala> !bumblebee
 Sorry, I don't know anything about optimus
 Sorry, I don't know anything about bumblebee
[10:09] <pogonobo> unfortunately, no alternate install disk for ubuntu, can I user server install and then install desktop afterwards?
[10:09] <boyoyonglala> pressed alt+f2 and screen went black!?!?
[10:09] <dr_willis> or use the mini/net installer pogonobo
[10:13] <BRONYFURLYFE> babilen: you new around here bud?
[10:13] <BRONYFURLYFE> WHERE YOU WIGGERS AT
[10:14] <DJones> BRONYFURLYFE: Do you have a support question?
[10:14] <BRONYFURLYFE> yeah DJ
[10:14] <BRONYFURLYFE> how much is ubuntu
[10:14] <BRONYFURLYFE> can I pirate it?
[10:14] <myTentaclesaDrip> its on sale on steam
[10:14] <myTentaclesaDrip> like 7.99
[10:19] <ubuntivity> hello again, I've installed build-essential, runned "./configure" and got the following error message: "The popt library used for parsing command line options is required in order for this program to operate correctly. Please check out1 and download2 from the following sites:"
[10:20] <ubuntivity> what is the "popt" library?
[10:21] <babilen> ubuntivity: May I suggest a "apt-cache search popt library" followed by a "apt-cache show libpopt-dev" ?
[10:21] <ikonia> ubuntivity: what are you trying to build ?
[10:21] <ubuntivity> I'm trying to build "pport"
[10:21] <ikonia> that's in the repo isn't it ?
[10:21] <ikonia> !info pport
[10:21] <ikonia> hmm maybe not, I thought that was there
[10:22] <zipper_> How do I find which files between rc[0-6].d and rcS.d contain start up scripts? I want to create a symlink from it to a script I want to run at start up.
[10:22] <ikonia> zipper_: ubuntu doesn't use system v init
[10:23] <zipper_> ikonia where are start up scripts stored?
[10:23] <ikonia> zipper_: depends,
[10:23] <ubuntivity> I'm now installing libpopt-dev, will that work?
[10:23] <ikonia> zipper_: have a quick search upstart ubuntu
[10:23] <ikonia> ubuntivity: try it, depends what it's looking for
[10:24] <ubuntivity> seems to be working, now waiting for the ./configure script to complete...
[10:25] <ubuntivity> Finally, pport is now installed. Thank you all guys :)
[10:25] <ubuntivity> Oh, BTW: how can I make a .deb file for pport for my specific OS?
[10:26] <DJones> !checkinstall | ubuntivity
[10:26] <ubuntivity> I mean can I compile it into a .deb file so that I can easily install it on my other computers running the same server
[10:27] <ubuntivity> *same version of ubuntu server
[10:27] <babilen> ubuntivity: fwiw, I would recommend to install locally compiled software to /usr/local and also to manage such installations with a tool called "stow" -- The latter essentially works in such a way that you install to /usr/local/stow/foo-1.2 and then run "stow foo-1.2" within /usr/local/stow which will setup suitable symlinks in /usr/local -- That way you can easily remove it.
[10:27] <nott> Hi all
[10:28] <ubuntivity> I'm not aiming at removing it, rather I want to install a copy of it on another computer
[10:28] <nott> How can I know if i have private or open drivers in my video card?
[10:29] <babilen> ubuntivity: You might want to compile other software locally and remove *that* at some point in the future. You don't have to use stow, but I simply found it to be a very nice tool for "managing" these local installations.
[10:30] <flashingpumpkin> guys, can here anyone recommend a twitter client that is a) not gwibber b) doesn't install *all* kde dependencies and c) is not a terminal client? :(
[10:30] <babilen> ubuntivity: The creation of Debian packages is detailed in http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ and I am sure you can find similar documentation for Ubuntu (but seriously, just package it upstream)
[10:31] <DJones> flashingpumpkin: ONly available in a ppa so isn't officially supported, but I use 'polly'
[10:31] <ubuntivity> pardon me, but I'm not a native English speaker, so what do you mean by "upstream", babilen ?
[10:31] <nott> How can I know if i have private or open drivers in my video card?
[10:31] <flashingpumpkin> DJones, cool, gonna check it out :)
[10:32] <DJones> flashingpumpkin: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/10/twitter-app-polly-adds-ubuntu-12-10-support Thats the first link with info on it I found
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> flashingpumpkin  I don't use twitter or other social media myself, but I found this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/must-have-apps-for-a-new-ubuntu-install
[10:33] <babilen> ubuntivity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstream_%28software_development%29
[10:34] <babilen> ubuntivity: Ubuntu is based on Debian so everything that you package for Debian will end up in Ubuntu, while the reverse is not necessarily true.
[10:36] <ubuntivity> thanks babilen. So, a thought just popped in my mind: can I package pport into a .deb and add it to ubuntu repository?
[10:37] <arun> hi everyone!
[10:37] <ubuntivity> hello arun
[10:37] <arun> hi i need some help
[10:38] <arun> hi ubuntivity
[10:38] <ubuntivity> that's what this channel is for, arun. just describe your problem without asking :)
[10:38] <ubuntivity> I mean without long introductions :D
[10:39] <arun> in home folder y the local discs are not showing?
[10:39] <ubuntivity> you mean your hard disc partitions?
[10:39] <arun> yes
[10:40] <ubuntivity> they are usually in /media/ or /mnt/
[10:40] <ubuntivity> unless you mount them elsewhere
[10:40] <ubuntivity> open the terminal and type "mount" and show me the output
[10:40] <arun> what do u mean by mounting?