[00:00] <acz32> daniel31: many would argue HDDs are much more secure than SSDs, if you care
[00:00] <daftykins> sounds like a dubious claim to me
[00:01] <acz32> daftykins: what is known is that securely erasing SSDs isn't trivial like it is with HDD
[00:02] <daftykins> that is not the same as your first statement
[00:02] <daftykins> also, i bet you'd have the same troubles trying to secure erase both types
[00:02] <acz32> daniel31: you should copy your home directory so you can move it onto the SSD
[00:02] <bazhang> this sounds like a good discussion for the offtopic channel
[00:02] <daftykins> except that i am both going to bed and not going to join that, so there's no need to tell regulars the rules :)
[00:02] <EriC^^> daniel31: you should copy the files unencrypted from your home dir to a backup location, along with the list of manually installed packages
[00:03] <SchrodingersScat> I heard it's harder to recover from an SSD, sounds like a security plus.  daniel31 I would start with a backup, I'm running mine now, I'm in a similar position.
[00:03] <petrvs> I heard ssds cause cancer
[00:03] <acz32> daftykins: erasing an HDD is easy, you just have to wait a long time
[00:03] <petrvs> but in reality they just give you faster access
[00:03] <petrvs> acz32: not that long
[00:03] <daftykins> acz32: please take note of the off topic warning.
[00:03] <aaanderse> i see a package called totem-mozilla in utopic and previous releases, this package doesn't exist in vivid... where is the best place to ask why it doesn't exist anymore? "ubuntu developers" are lested as the maintainer
[00:03] <acz32> petrvs: depends on the size of the disk, of course
[00:03] <daftykins> also, i cannot continue this conversation as i am leaving :)
[00:04] <acz32> daftykins: bye
[00:08] <daniel31> I see. Thanks for the input guys. Is there no easy way to access the encrypted files if I know the password then? Why not just boot back into the HDD (connected over USB) and copy the files to the SSD after the new distro is installed?
[00:08] <petrvs> acz32: well, the larger the disk, likely the more ram & proc powe you have, and consequently the faster the wipe, too
[00:09] <petrvs> not necessarily, though, of course
[00:09] <petrvs> but mostly, there is rarely a reason to wipe a disk
[00:09] <daniel31> As it happens, I need the SSD for speed (I am a photography and a software developer). The encryption is nice against the threats I face, but it's hardly a life-or-death situation. :-)
[00:10] <petrvs> usually the case =)
[00:10] <petrvs> I missed the beginning of your issue, though
[00:14] <acz32> daniel31: like we said, just back up /home and copy it onto the SSD after you re-install the OS
[00:14] <daniel31> thanks guys :-)
[00:16] <acz32> daniel31: so you are creating /home on the SSD?
[00:16] <acz32> is it that big. i think most people put /root on there and /home on a HDD
[00:17] <daniel31> well its 256gb. I intend to have the entire OS on it since its my laptop I cant really have two. the old HDD will be retired into a backup medium and media/large file storage over usb.
[00:18] <acz32> 256GB. nice
[00:18] <daniel31> I really want to be able to mount my old encrypted home temporarily in my new install. not sure if thats possible tho.
[00:18] <acz32> daniel31: yes, it is. some file managers even handle that if you click on an encrypted volume
[00:19] <daniel31> thats good to know acz32. no need to backup the encrypted key or some thing like that then? all I need is my user password?
[00:20] <acz32> daniel31: if you're ok mounting from commandline if your file manager doesn't pop up a nice GUI dialog, then sure
[00:21] <voidDotClass> My dock is really annoying, i've set it to auto hide and show when i move mouse to left, sensitivity at max, but i still have to move my mouse at least 3-4 times before it finally shows
[00:21] <voidDotClass> is there a trick i'm missing, or can i use a keyboard shortcut for showing it
[00:23] <daniel31> thanks acz32. thats all I need to know I think. off to bed now. bye guys!
[00:25] <penos> hello
[00:26] <petrvs> 'lo
[00:37] <zykotick9> daniel31: ymmv, but i'd strongly suggest using LUKS over "home directory encryption"
[00:49] <Guest67820> Hello Ubuntu channel
[00:49] <urielsalis_> Hi, how I can copy ubuntu xorg config to another distro like arch?
[00:50] <ryan_461> Guest67820:  Hi
[00:51] <gioankminh> hello
[00:51] <gioankminh> i am a new ubuntu mate
[00:52] <Guest67820> Anyone faced a failed Ubuntu upgrade from lucid to precise? There was not enough room in /boot partition and it aborted the upgrade. Now it shows that I’m on Precise, but with an old kernel and I’m not even sure if all the upgrade steps completed properly. Did anyone experience a similar situation?
[00:54] <gioankminh> i want come in to group linux, please, sent me server
[00:54] <notaeon> ##linux ?
[00:54] <gioankminh> ##linux?
[00:54] <gioankminh> ##linux ?
[00:54] <urielsalis_> /join ##linux
[00:56] <gioankminh> i don't join it
[00:56] <urielsalis_> You have to register your nick
[00:56] <bazhang> gioankminh, yes you did
[00:56] <urielsalis_> You must register your IRC nickname, using the command /msg NickServ REGISTER password email in here. Remember to use a valid email.
[01:01] <kazdax> Hi i like to install Ubuntu .. I have windows installed and i want to install vai the network
[01:01] <petrvs> kazdax: why via the network
[01:01] <kazdax> what are the steps i should take to install ubuntu over the network and i dont have a parition already ..so i need to make a partition
[01:02] <petrvs> mmm, making a partition _can_ be tedious
[01:02] <petrvs> it _can_ also be not 100% safe
[01:02] <petrvs> it's infinitely simpler to buy another disk, if you can afford it
[01:02] <petrvs> you'll need the extra storage eventually anyway
[01:02] <kazdax> Its a laptop
[01:02] <petrvs> how tedious =)
[01:02] <kazdax> and i installed my windows right now with a netork
[01:02] <kazdax> network
[01:02] <petrvs> well, to properly resize partitions with Windows preinstalled
[01:02] <kazdax> so i was not able to make partitions
[01:02] <petrvs> you really need to make sure the filesystems are defragmented
[01:03] <petrvs> and then resize
[01:03] <petrvs> and then fsck
[01:03] <petrvs> and then proceed with Ubuntu installation
[01:03] <penos> fsck?
[01:03] <petrvs> and before all that you should make a backup of anything you can't live without
[01:03] <petrvs> fsck, FS check
[01:03] <penos> fsck=fuck?
[01:03] <petrvs> penos: almost =)
[01:03] <penos> oh....
[01:03] <petrvs> Unix hackers of yore didn't like typing
[01:03] <petrvs> plus they _did_ like commands and names that resembled naughty words
[01:04] <kazdax> can i do this all without a DVD
[01:04] <kazdax> use like a USB drive
[01:04] <kazdax> to repartition the disk
[01:05] <petrvs> kazdax: you can, yes
[01:05] <kazdax> and the ubuntu install over a netowrk ..do i mount the DVD and then share the drive
[01:05] <Ben64> kazdax: you can install ubuntu from a usb disk
[01:05] <petrvs> you can install over the network, too
[01:05] <petrvs> but you need to figure out the partitioning/resizing first
[01:05] <kazdax> network is faster
[01:05] <Ben64> network is not faster
[01:05] <petrvs> network is faster if you already know how to do it
[01:05] <petrvs> but you don't =)
[01:05] <kazdax> well for windows..i just shared the ISO over a netowrk
[01:05] <kazdax> and executed it from the network
[01:06] <kazdax> and it just did everything else ..i assume ubuntu does the same
[01:06] <kazdax> so defragment the hardisk and then use fsck ?
[01:06] <kazdax> I dont want to use windows anymore ..it gives me so many problems
[01:07] <Ben64> kazdax: write the ubuntu iso to a usb drive, boot it, install, done
[01:07] <kazdax> I rather use ubuntu
[01:07] <kazdax> Ben64 yes i will do USB
[01:07] <kazdax> but i need to repartition the disk
[01:07] <kazdax> so i can install it
[01:08] <Ben64> kazdax: the installer does that
[01:08] <kazdax> ohh ?
[01:08] <kazdax> so all i need is an ubuntu ISO and i can resize it within ?
[01:08] <Ben64> yep
[01:08] <kazdax> is the rezise thing hard to do ?
[01:09] <Ben64> nope
[01:09] <kazdax> it comes up when it ask whatt partition i was to install it on
[01:09] <kazdax> ?
[01:09] <kazdax> so it has an option that says resize
[01:09] <Ben64> it gives you a few options, try it and see
[01:09] <kazdax> i am asking because when i start doing it ..i dont have another computer to chat online and ask questions
[01:10] <kazdax> okay one more question .. The network install isnt as easy as mounting the ISO and sharing it and then executing setup from the computer ?
[01:10] <kazdax> just wondering if i can do a network insall ..if not ill be doing USB
[01:10] <kazdax> one more question ..how to get ubuntu on the USB drive ?
[01:11] <Ben64> !usb | kazdax
[01:11] <kazdax> thanks man
[01:11] <kazdax> okay one more question ..does anyone of you use netflix on ubuntu ?
[01:12] <kazdax> i think silverlight is microsoft windows only
[01:12] <bazhang> !netflix
[01:12] <kazdax> cool
[01:13] <petrvs> netflix actually supports so-called "HTML5" video now
[01:13] <petrvs> you mostly just need a recent browser version
[01:13] <xangua> you need google chrome
[01:13] <petrvs> simpler with chrome, yeah
[01:13] <xangua> that ships with drm  ;) not just any browsers
[01:13] <petrvs> that is the magic of the word mostly =)
[01:14] <kazdax> okay what about after installing ubuntu ..will my ethernet work and wireless or do i need drivers for that ?
[01:14] <kazdax> nevermind .. i think people have tried installing on this machine and it worked for hem
[01:15] <kazdax> them
[01:15] <kazdax> I will start using ubuntu for everything
[01:15] <kazdax> I dont play window games anyways
[01:15] <kazdax> I usually use it for reading PDF , watching netflix and listening to music
[01:15] <kazdax> so i think ubuntu can do all that without much hassle
[01:15] <petrvs> kazdax: ten'll get you twenty it'll all just work
[01:15] <petrvs> if it doesn't, you can fix it
[01:16] <petrvs> yeah it can do all that
[01:16] <petrvs> it can even let you play most win32 games
[01:16] <kazdax> okay ...what if i wanted to access windows paritition from ubuntu ?
[01:16] <kazdax> for example my C drive ..when i am in ubuntu
[01:16] <kazdax> can i save and read from that drive ?
[01:17] <kazdax> even if it is NTFS
[01:17] <petrvs> kazdax: yup
[01:17] <kazdax> because i want to give my ubuntu ..half of the drive .. and if my ubuntu gets filled up use my windows Drive as a backup
[01:17] <kazdax> cool
[01:17] <petrvs> you can also do the reverse, if you want
[01:18] <kazdax> okay cool
[01:18] <kazdax> there used to be a time when this was not possible
[01:18] <petrvs> mmmm
[01:18] <petrvs> yeah I guess
[01:18] <petrvs> maybe 15 years ago =)
[01:19] <petrvs> things to progress, however slowly =)
[01:22] <kazdax> okay whats step 3 persistence .. the value i need to add there
[01:22] <kazdax> there is nothing about it on the ubuntu site you guys gave me
[01:22] <kazdax> its USB creator
[01:24] <kazdax> is persistence meaning how much space the ISO is
[01:24] <kazdax> because its right now at zero and says live mode only
[01:24] <Ben64> kazdax: no, its so changes you do to the live system will remain
[01:24] <petrvs> kazdax: you don't need persistence
[01:24] <kazdax> ahh i see
[01:25] <kazdax> my USB is much slower than my netowrk
[01:25] <kazdax> netowrk
[01:25] <kazdax> network
[01:26] <kazdax> The usb goes at 6 mb per secound ...my netowrk does 40 mb per secound
[01:26] <Ben64> it would be done already if you just used the usb already
[01:26] <petrvs> pretty sure there are more steps for a network install
[01:27] <petrvs> _after_ you understand them
[01:27]  * petrvs shrugs
[01:27] <kazdax> i think with network install..i wont be able to repartition as on a usb wih the inbuilt ubuntu tools
[01:27] <petrvs> dunno about that, but I do think it'd take longer
[01:27] <kazdax> my USB could be messed up
[01:28] <petrvs> could be
[01:28] <petrvs> probably isn't
[01:28] <kazdax> 6 mb secound ?
[01:28] <kazdax> its to slow
[01:28] <kazdax> isnt it ?
[01:28] <Ben64> no
[01:29] <kazdax> i see
[01:33] <kazdax> okay i am going ahead and installing ubuntu ..i will come back using it for irc
[01:33] <kazdax> thanks alot guys .if any problems ill get back to you guys
[01:35] <petrvs> hokay
[01:46] <ellen> buenas
[01:46] <ellen> alguien aqui en español
[01:46] <EriC^^> !es | ellen
[01:47] <docmur> I was running "ubuntu-vm-builder kvm trusty" and it just stays Calling Hook: Bootstrap, it was there for two hours
[01:47] <petrvs> the mayor of the canals of Ubuntu...
[01:47]  * petrvs giggles
[01:49] <petrvs> good ole non-verbose automation
[01:49] <xxtjaxx> Hi! I installed Ubuntu 14.04 but the ati driver packages appear to be broken. They are not installable and the binary drivers require inexistant packages. Any help? Has anyone had that issue?
[01:50] <xxtjaxx> Fglrx is technically uninstallable right now.
[01:50] <xangua> xxtjaxx: did you run apt-get update ?
[01:50] <xangua> if you have an error message might be wise to share it too
[01:51] <xxtjaxx> several times I believe by now.
[01:51] <xxtjaxx> sure give me a second.
[01:52] <EriC^^> xorg-api-15 thingy?
[01:52] <EriC^^> somebody had that issue earlier
[01:52] <xxtjaxx> http://paste.debian.net/169775/ there ya gp
[01:52] <EriC^^> xorg-video-abi-*
[01:52] <xxtjaxx> *go
[01:53] <EriC^^> yup
[01:53] <xxtjaxx> yup
[01:53] <xxtjaxx> suggested fix?
[01:53] <EriC^^> i recall telling him to install 2 packages
[01:53] <kk0710> hey guys, I was having some serious problems with my realtek wireless adapter and was told to try running newere kernels, has a nyone run 4.1.0-040100rc1-generic
[01:53] <EriC^^> the latter being abi-15 which pulled in something else, the first i can't recall
[01:54] <xxtjaxx> can you press up a couple times and find it?
[01:54] <EriC^^> xxtjaxx: it was about 2 weeks ago
[01:54] <xxtjaxx> oh and I guess you don
[01:54] <xxtjaxx> 't have a ssh shell with screen and irssi huh?
[01:54] <EriC^^> nope
[01:54] <xxtjaxx> ay caramba...
[01:55] <EriC^^> hold on
[01:55] <xxtjaxx> E: Package 'xorg-video-abi-14' has no installation candidat  .... dangit
[01:56] <EriC^^> xxtjaxx: i think this was it sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core
[01:59] <xxtjaxx> http://paste.debian.net/169783/
[01:59] <xxtjaxx> nope
[01:59] <EriC^^> ok i think it had to do with libcheese
[01:59] <xxtjaxx> delete it?
[02:00] <EriC^^> yes try sudo apt-get purge libcheese*
[02:04] <karan> hey
[02:04] <EriC^^> any luck xxtjaxx ?
[02:04] <petrvs> heyo
[02:04] <kazdax> i got it installed
[02:04] <kazdax> right now trying to install flash layer
[02:05] <kazdax> says Adobe-flashplugin not gound in the ubuntu software center
[02:05] <kazdax> using adobes website to install
[02:05] <EriC^^> kazdax: you have to enable the multiverse repository
[02:05] <kazdax> how do i do that ?
[02:06] <EriC^^> open the dash > software & updates
[02:06] <kazdax> okay
[02:07] <kazdax> now what do i do?
[02:09] <kazdax> EriC^^,
[02:10] <xxtjaxx> EriC^^: Yup installed and uninstalled $stuff..
[02:11] <xxtjaxx> I'm installing xorg-core now then abi14 then fglrx?
[02:12] <kazdax> the multi verse is already selected
[02:12] <kazdax> but i still cant install flash player...someone said i should use google chrome and that chrome comes with it
[02:13] <petrvs> for netflix, you can use chrome if you want
[02:13] <xxtjaxx> update/refresh first. It has to fetch the index of the multiverse before it can give it to you
[02:13] <petrvs> that is the path of least resistance
[02:13] <xxtjaxx> Oh they enabled <video>?
[02:13] <kazdax> even for other flash things ?
[02:13] <petrvs> xxtjaxx: something like that
[02:13] <kazdax> i want to do speed test ..so i need flash for it
[02:13] <petrvs> kazdax: yes, actually
[02:13] <xxtjaxx> kazdax: no.
[02:13] <petrvs> chrome is actually also the path of least resistance for flash
[02:13] <xxtjaxx> Not necessairly.
[02:13] <petrvs> not my favorite browser, though
[02:13] <petrvs> different issue =)
[02:14] <kazdax> how do i get flash for firefox ?
[02:14] <xxtjaxx> I like it(developer over here...)
[02:14] <kazdax> also should i update the site to the repository for softwares ?
[02:14] <xxtjaxx> man have I not done FOSS Desktop support in a while...
[02:14] <kazdax> i heard doing that .. increases speed for downloads of software
[02:14] <xxtjaxx> bs
[02:15] <kazdax> well previously when i downloaded ubuntu and installed it
[02:15] <kazdax> the downloads from the software center were very slow
[02:15] <kazdax> so some guy said ..upload the repository links and it worked
[02:15] <kazdax> but its working great right now tho
[02:16] <kazdax> so no way to get flash for firefox
[02:16] <kazdax> and its taking time to install chrome ..is that normal ?
[02:16] <xangua> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer kazdax
[02:17] <petrvs> xxtjaxx: developer of what? :p
[02:17] <xangua> to install the flashplugin in firefox, you could also install ubuntu-restricted-extras to Also install flash, codecs, fonts
[02:17] <kazdax> okay it says locked
[02:17] <kazdax> i am using the ubuntu software installer right now
[02:18] <EriC^^> kazdax: close the software & updates tab
[02:18] <EriC^^> oh
[02:18] <kazdax> its working
[02:19] <Yuken> Can't access any websites right now besides the ubuntu repos and freenode, for some reason. What packages would I need to install to run Java, and Web-Java programs?
[02:19] <xxtjaxx> petrvs: Various things on web pages
[02:20] <petrvs> xxtjaxx: doesn't quite has the same ring as ", esq." =)
[02:20] <petrvs> Yuken: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[02:20] <petrvs> 'browser plugin', etc.
[02:20] <kazdax> did speed test on the internet
[02:20] <petrvs> kazdax: neat
[02:20] <kazdax> my internet is slower on ubuntu
[02:21] <Yuken> petrvs: Thank you.
[02:21] <petrvs> kazdax: nah
[02:21] <kazdax> actually ...the upload is better
[02:21] <kazdax> but download is much less
[02:21] <petrvs> kazdax: nah
[02:21] <petrvs> you can't really accurately gauge speed from speedtest.net anyway
[02:21] <kazdax> yea but there is a huge difference
[02:21] <petrvs> you need an enduring download
[02:21] <petrvs> nah
[02:22] <kazdax> okay ill try downloading a torrent with alot of seeds..and see if it reaches 7 mbs
[02:22] <kazdax> if it does then the speed test failed else its slower for some reason
[02:23] <petrvs> kazdax: you're already installed?
[02:23] <kazdax> yes
[02:23] <kazdax> I am on the ubuntu right now
[02:24] <codepython777> is anyone using ubuntu on macbook here?
[02:24] <notaeon> have done
[02:25] <notaeon> codepython777: so what's your actual question?
[02:26] <kazdax> so the speed test could be less on the ubuntu but if i did a torrent download..it should show u the same seed ?
[02:26] <petrvs> kazdax: probably trivially less unreliable a test, sue
[02:26] <petrvs> sure*
[02:26] <kazdax> I am on the torrent itd doing ..3.4
[02:27] <codepython777> notaeon: Do you have any pointer for an ubuntu image that i can burn on my ssd drive and boot from it externally on my mac?
[02:27] <petrvs> from usb?
[02:27] <notaeon> codepython777: you want to use a ssd as a bootable install medium? never tried that before
[02:28] <kazdax> okay i reached 6.5
[02:28] <codepython777> notaeon: yes, preferably using thunderbolt. Does anyone know if that works on a mac?
[02:28] <kazdax> i guess you were riht
[02:28] <kazdax> right
[02:29] <Slowboat> good luck booting ubuntu from an external drive for mac. you're better off burning to a DVD
[02:29] <notaeon> codepython777: no idea, but usually there are different key combos at boot to loadf from usb/firewire/network etc
[02:32] <notaeon> codepython777: if the install iso is booted from the ssd, i don't see why that would be different from any other flash medium. but doing it from thunderbolt depends on whether the mac efi supports that
[02:33] <notaeon> it does https://gigaom.com/2011/06/29/why-the-ability-to-boot-from-thunderbolt-on-a-mac-is-huge/
[02:35] <notaeon> key combos here https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201255
[02:38] <kazdax> ya its slower on ubuntu
[02:38] <kazdax> its not reaching the max download
[02:38] <kazdax> ill try doing the same torrent on my windows box and comapre to see ..if there is a difference in speed..ill come back
[02:39] <xxtjaxx`> Hey! Anybody here good with kernel panics? This one made it on my desk after installing fglrx: http://paste.debian.net/169788/
[02:44] <mattgyver> ...Before I got and purge my default firefox install can anyone confirm for me that there should in fact be an "Unpin tab" context menu item for tabs like in all other versions?
[02:56] <mcc> Hi... I this morning told my Ubuntu 10.04 VPS (I would like to upgrade to another distro next...) to apt-get upgrade. A few minutes later, something happened, I don't know what, and services weren't running anymore. When I did apt-get upgrade again, I get: "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem". When I type that, I get "read-only file system".
[02:56] <mcc> The filesystem is indeed mounted read only. I do not know what to make of this.
[02:56] <Ben64> mcc: sounds like a filesystem error, or hard drive error, or both
[02:57] <mcc> Hard drive error would be unusual because I am on a rackspace VM. Or whoever owns them now.
[02:57] <mcc> if it is a fs error should I do something with fsck?
[02:58] <Ben64> mcc: should look at logs first
[02:59] <mcc> /var/log/syslog?
[02:59] <Ben64> all of the logs
[03:02] <xxtjaxx`> Does anybody here have any experience with fglrx Kernel Panics?
[03:24] <webflashing> i changed from an amd vga to a new nvidia one. I installed the drivers from the official site but since then VLC doesnt play my videos. I can hear the audio but it freezes at the first frame. I want to try with another player, which one would you recommend?
[03:28] <kk0710> guys I upgraded to the newest kernel but it didn't solve my problems so I wanted to go back, how do I remove it?
[03:30] <XenophonF> i all - i'm trying to install ubuntu 15.04 on my macbookpro5,1, with root on a luks-encrypted ZFS volume
[03:30] <XenophonF> yes, baroque, i realize
[03:30] <XenophonF> here's what i've done so far - https://gist.github.com/xenophonf/5fdaac7e31f1903253c1
[03:30] <XenophonF> i'm done with the install, but i'm not sure i have grub or initrd set up right
[03:31] <XenophonF> update-initramfs doesn't seem to do anything, and now that i'm looking around on the file system, i can't seem to find the linux kernel
[03:31] <XenophonF> i see the kernel headers and whatnot
[03:31] <XenophonF> so i feel like i've missed a step
[03:31] <HerroWorlds> test
[03:32] <somsip> !test | HerroWorlds
[03:32] <XenophonF> would someone mind looking over that gist? maybe a fresh set of eyes will catch my mistake
[03:32] <HerroWorlds> =D my client works except for when i try to connect to multple irc networks at the same time :*(
[03:32] <ryan_461> kk0710: I don't know exactly how to do it but I imagine you have to boot an older kernel and then you can remove it with synaptic. People here know how to do it.
[03:33] <XenophonF> ah, it's called linux-image
[03:34] <XenophonF> so do i install linux-signed-generic to get all of the kernel packages installed?
[03:36] <XenophonF> or do i need both linux-signed-generic and linux-image-generic?
[03:36] <XenophonF> or some other combo?
[03:36] <dtscode> hey guys... im running ubuntu 14.04 on my laptop, and i closed it shut, and now when i open it up the screen remains black. i have another monitor attached, so im still able to use things, but i would like to make the laptop screen come back. how can i fix this?
[03:38] <petrvs> dtscode: press a button?
[03:38] <dtscode> petrvs, i have been... typing this required me to press buttons
[03:39] <RedPenguin> hey all
[03:39] <kk0710> man I am just having a heck of a time here
[03:39] <kk0710> I am trying to fix my wireless issues with realtek, I am following post #5 instructions but am getting errors trying to make, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2264505
[03:39] <XenophonF> well, i guess installing both linux-signed-generic and linux-image-generic can't hurt
[03:40] <RedPenguin> Anybody ever hear of Ubuntu crashing to where it throws up a white/black stripped screen and is non-responsive?
[03:40] <RedPenguin> I checked various logs and I can't seem to find out what crashed
[03:41] <XenophonF> RedPenguin: i've had nouveau crash on me, where it shows two red/blue-speckled bars in the upper right
[03:41] <XenophonF> switching to the nvidia driver fixed it for me
[03:41] <XenophonF> had to disable kms in order to boot, before i could install the nvidia driver
[03:41] <XenophonF> that's the "nomodeset" kernel command line option
[03:42] <RedPenguin> it just did it again but this time showed a blue bar'ed screen
[03:43] <RedPenguin> I just fresh installed this system yesterday
[03:43] <kk0710> also I am trying to figure out how to remove a newer kernel I tested but no longer want or at least make it default to the original kernel
[03:48] <RedPenguin> XenophonF: yea you might be right, I am trying it without nouveau, as I don't think I was using that driver before
[03:51] <webflashing> i changed from an amd vga to a new nvidia one. I installed the drivers from the official site but since then VLC doesnt play my videos. I can hear the audio but it freezes at the first frame. I want to try with another player, which one would you recommend?
[03:53] <usucapiao> webflashing, have u tried to reset vlc preferences?
[03:54] <webflashing> usucapiao, I did not. Let me try right now
[03:55] <webflashing> usucapiao, I just did. No change
[03:57] <linocisco> http://linuxers.org/tutorial/wget-proxy-how-run-wget-behind-proxy-server doesnt help to make wget work behind proxy with authentication
[04:03] <Jonno_FTW> is there any easy way to wrap long lines in conky?
[04:03] <fry> I'm trying to upgrade to ubuntu 15.04 and I am getting an error, "Could not calculate the upgrade"
[04:04] <fry> Anyone know what I can do to fix this problem?
[04:05] <nomelette> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.
[04:05] <somsip> fry: do you have any PPA packages?
[04:06] <fry> somsip: how can I find out if I do? I am not sure
[04:06] <somsip> fry: Look in /var/log for release-upgrader log files that will have more details.
[04:07] <somsip> fry: and follow up these two possibilities http://is.gd/jkqPHa http://is.gd/E9D4Df
[04:08] <fry> somsip: "release-upgrader" doesnt exist in this directory
[04:10] <RedPenguin> XenophonF: yea looks like it was the NVidia driver, I didn't need nomodeset, but it works now I believe, I originally turned off NVidia as Kodi for some reason was playing as if it was skipping
[04:10] <fry> somsip: big list of broken xserver video packages
[04:10] <fry> removed them
[04:12] <bodhi_zazen> fry, it takes longer and is often less reliable to fix a failed upgrade then it does to do a fresh install . If you do a fresh install, and do NOT FORMAT / or if you have one /home your data in /home will be preserved
[04:14] <fry> bodhi_zazen: I'm just going to try and upgrade after I get done writing this program. p2p software due in like 3 days for my research lab
[04:14] <fry> professor already chewed me out once xD
[04:14] <fry> cant afford to lose a day
[04:18] <Guest6372> How do I get rid of a stuck window-resize icon in Unity?
[04:27] <sudo_aptget_help> hey all so i've been trying to restart network-manager since installing 15.04 and all I get is this; restart: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[04:27] <sudo_aptget_help> Just wondering if this is a know issue, or I am I some how doing something hiar brained :)
[04:28] <penos> hello
[04:30] <sudo_aptget_help> hello
[04:30] <sudo_aptget_help>  there :)
[04:45] <DarrenGao> hi, all
[04:46] <petrvs> hi
[05:19] <avatar> hallo
[05:22] <jordanl> i'm currently using shotwell to manage my photos, but i'm looking for a better way to sync to the cloud so i can integrate w/ my mobile phone photos too
[05:22] <jordanl> are there any photo management tools for ubuntu that integrate w/ cloud photo storage services? (like dropbox)
[05:23] <Zerkalerka> hey guys is there a program like archey for ubuntu?
[05:24] <somsip> Zerkalerka: what is archey? Link?
[05:26] <al2o3-cr> somsip: archey display stats in terminal arch linux
[05:26] <Zerkalerka> somsip: http://i.imgur.com/Gf4E7Sx.png
[05:27] <somsip> Zerkalerka: everything seems to point here. Looks old https://github.com/djmelik/archey/downloads
[05:28] <Zerkalerka> oh so you can use that on ubuntu as well?
[05:28] <hardikAvijit> i am using unbuntu 12.04  and kernel 3.14.    but gettng kernel header problem       uing apt-get install kernal-header-'uname -r '  show xxx-ipv6 kernel header not found
[05:28] <somsip> Zerkalerka: debs can be installed on ubuntu. I wouldn't want to put something from 2010 though
[05:31] <pragomer> When booting live cd, how can I set "try ubuntu" and a specific language to default? ( I am remastering the ubuntu iso and I want to know what file(s) to edit/replace)
[05:32] <cage_raphel> i need help!!  i am running ubuntu 14.04 LTS and my system time does not seem to sync with the actual internet time.
[05:32] <somsip> !remaster | pragomer (something may be on here to help)
[05:32] <pragomer> sorry I am new to a irc chat.. what means the "!"
[05:33] <somsip> !ntp | cage_raphel
[05:33] <somsip> pragomer: it tells the bot to give you the answe to a FAQ
[05:33] <pragomer> ah ok, thanks
[05:33] <pragomer> cool :-)
[05:33] <somsip> !brain | pragomer
[05:33] <Zerkalerka> somsip: ty, works fine though :)
[05:33] <somsip> Zerkalerka: good result
[05:34] <apireversesort> Hello
[05:34] <apireversesort> Does anyone use private internet access for VPN here?
[05:34] <somsip> apireversesort: what the real, ubuntu-related question there?
[05:34] <apireversesort> what does the kill switch actually change
[05:34] <apireversesort> in terms of network settings
[05:35] <cage_raphel> somsip, i have gone through the documentation but it doesnt help..
[05:36] <cage_raphel> somsip,  the system time settings is set to automatically get the time from the internet.. but it still shows the wrong time
[05:36] <pragomer> is a file named "isolinux.cfg" still used by 14.04 or higher? Because I cannot find it on the ISO
[05:36] <somsip> cage_raphel: have you followed this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Time_Synchronization_using_NTP
[05:37] <hardikAvijit> root@interactcrmcloud:~# apt-get install kernel-headers-3.14.32-xxxx-std-ipv6-64
[05:37] <hardikAvijit> Reading package lists... Done
[05:37] <hardikAvijit> Building dependency tree
[05:37] <hardikAvijit> Reading state information... Done
[05:37] <hardikAvijit> E: Unable to locate package kernel-headers-3.14.32-xxxx-std-ipv6-64
[05:37] <hardikAvijit> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'kernel-headers-3.14.32-xxxx-std-ipv6-64'
[05:38] <somsip> hardikAvijit: does that package really exist?
[05:40] <hardikAvijit> hi somsip
[05:40] <hardikAvijit> how to check packege in not exit???
[05:41] <somsip> !find headers | hardikAvijit
[05:42] <somsip> hardikAvijit: use the search link above ^^^
[05:42] <hardikAvijit> hiii hearder list root@interactcrmcloud:~# apt-cache search kernel-header
[05:42] <hardikAvijit> linux-libc-dev - Linux Kernel Headers for development
[05:42] <hardikAvijit> kernel-package - A utility for building Linux kernel related Debian packages.
[05:42] <hardikAvijit> linux-libc-dev-armel-cross - Linux Kernel Headers for development (for cross-compiling)
[05:42] <hardikAvijit> linux-libc-dev-armhf-cross - Linux Kernel Headers for development (for cross-compiling)
[05:43] <somsip> !paste | hardikAvijit
[06:09] <mantys89> hello, is there any way to change default terminal in nautilus "Open Terminal"? (Ubuntu 15.04)
[06:16] <IC2D> do you think ubuntu is in ecline?
[06:16] <IC2D> decline*
[06:18] <Rand0m`> IC2D, decline ?
[06:18] <somsip> !ot | IC2D
[06:24] <Guest66677> Is there a way to take a drag and drop screenshot in Ubuntu rather like how the mac does it?
[06:25] <somsip> !info scrot | Guest66677
[06:25] <jnhghy> I've moved a ssd with ubuntu 12.04 from one box to another one and now the os is not shuting down is there a webpage that shows what I need to do? or anybody has any idea? from what I read I have to update grub? not sure how :)
[06:26] <Guest66677> somsip: thanks
[06:26] <somsip> Guest66677: I use xsnap but can't remember where I got it from
[06:26] <somsip> !info xsnap
[06:31] <Finetundra> how do I launch network manafer from terminal?
[06:32] <jasabella> nm-connection-editor?
[06:32] <usucapiao> Finetundra, sudo start network-manager
[06:33] <usucapiao> Finetundra, a good read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[06:35] <Finetundra> how do I fix: /usr/bin/x: symblo lookup error?
[06:36] <Finetundra> unable to conect to x server: connection refused
[06:54] <PCatinean> hey guys
[06:54] <PCatinean> why does ubuntu say bash: /usr/local/bin/flake8: No such file or directory
[06:54] <hiexpo> hola
[06:54] <PCatinean> when I type in flake8 since I removed with pip and used apt-get install python-flake8
[06:54] <PCatinean> why is it still searching for it in the other?
[06:54] <hiexpo> hmm
[06:54] <Finetundra> how do I fix: /usr/bin/x: symblo lookup error unable to conect to x server: connection refused?
[06:55] <hiexpo> pip install
[06:55] <hiexpo> ?
[06:57] <cage_raphel> finally fixed my ubuntu!! Yay!! :)
[06:58] <PCatinean> hiexpo, I removed it after
[06:58] <PCatinean> why is it searching it still there?
[06:59] <hiexpo> pip install or uninstall
[07:00] <cage_raphel> hello!! can anyone suggest me a good anti virus for ubunti 14.04
[07:01] <penos> cage_raphel, microsoft security essntials
[07:01] <cage_raphel> penos, microsoft security essentials for ubuntu ??
[07:04] <somsip> !av | cage_raphel
[07:05] <elijh> does anyone know the best place to ask vivid systemd questions? couchdb starts fine... unless started by systemd.
[07:06] <somsip> elijh: this is the place to ask, but it's a bit quiet round here now
[07:10] <elijh> on vivid, when i do `apt-get remove --purge couchdb-common couchdb couchdb-bin && apt-get install couchdb`, then couchdb will refuse to start using systemd.
[07:12] <elijh> it will start fine if i comment out the loading of lsb library in /etc/init.d/couchdb (where systemd takes control from legacy sysvinit scripts)
[07:14] <elijh> should there be a systemd unit file for couchdb service? `find /lib/systemd | grep couch || echo $?` => 1
[07:15] <nafg> Hello
[07:15] <nafg> My grub situation got a little confusing
[07:15] <nafg> I guess when I installed fedora to try it out a while ago, it created its own partition for /boot
[07:16] <nafg> How do I change things so when I start the computer it uses the original /boot on my ubuntu partition
[07:16] <nafg> ?
[07:20] <nafg> Actually maybe i should just configure ubuntu to use the /boot partition
[07:20] <nafg> prob. simpler
[07:31] <Guest99778> Hi
[07:31] <hmgyber> hi
[07:31] <cage_raphel> hello!
[07:35] <cogitation> Steam no longer starting properly.  Have error messages:
[07:35] <cogitation> Anyone able to help?
[07:35] <somsip> !details | cogitation
[07:36] <cage_raphel> cogitation, what is the error u get when u access steam?
[07:36] <cogitation> The error message from trying to start from the terminal is:  http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ibZuhrcy
[07:36] <bobita> does anybody know how i can cut some mp3? i have some songs that starts with a demo and i want to cut that demo
[07:37] <cogitation> Probably Audacity, bobita
[07:37] <bobita> is that doing it?
[07:37] <cage_raphel> cogitation, i reckon you are getting this error at the very beginning when u access steam?
[07:37] <cogitation> Audacity is an open source prog for editing audio
[07:38] <cage_raphel> !audacity | bobita
[07:38] <cogitation> Yes, cage.  When I run "steam", it appears in the system monitor, taking up 5.31 MB of ram, but no window appears.
[07:38] <cage_raphel> cogitation, can u try to uninstall steam and reinstall again?
[07:39] <cogitation> Actually, let me give a more full log of my terminal window
[07:39] <cage_raphel> cogitation,  sure
[07:39] <cogitation> (how do I use !pastebin?)
[07:40] <cogitation> (the proper syntax, I mean)
[07:40] <cage_raphel> !pastebin
[07:40] <cage_raphel> !pastebin | cogitation
[07:41] <cogitation> !pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/10936597/
[07:41] <cogitation> eh... worth a shot
[07:42] <cage_raphel> cogitation,  have u faced this issue in any of the earlier versions of ubu?
[07:42] <cogitation> No.  It's new since the update.
[07:43] <cage_raphel> cogitation, i used to face this issue when i was using 14.04.. it actuakly got fixed after i ran a dist-upgrade
[07:44] <cogitation> Hunh.  I had steam working on 14.10, then the update (maybe) broke it
[07:44] <cage_raphel> cogitation,  shall we try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:44] <cogitation> okay.
[07:45] <cage_raphel> cogitation,  after u run dist upgrade.. reboot system and try to access steam
[07:45] <cogitation> Just says five packages can be autoremoved...
[07:45] <cogitation> also, "the following packages have been kept back:  baloo"
[07:45] <cage_raphel> cogitation,  yeah.. thats fine
[07:45] <rydzykje> hey guys, I have problem with my script. I want to install mysql from deb package. Im using debconf to configure root password but I cant uderstand why until i press two times "ENTER" script is waiting without any promt even . http://pastebin.com/Xrw4V6jV
[07:46] <cogitation> would autoremoving unecessary libs cause steam to start?]
[07:46] <cage_raphel> cogitation, lol.. i am  not sure though.. but its worth giving a  try
[07:48] <philm88> Hi all. I've created a service that's started via upstart. It logs to /var/log/upstart/service.conf, like other upstart services do. Ubuntu specifies a logrotate rule that acts on all upstart log files and rotates them. After log rotation, I need my service to be restarted so that it starts a new log file - but there doesn't seem to be a way to specify a postrotate command on a per-service basis - it's done for upstart as a whol
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[07:55] <funky2> hi
[07:55] <cogitation> good morning, lotus
[07:55] <funky2> hi there, got a question i have 2 ssd's A) is 80GB (sda) and has a swap partition and a root parition wih my OS which i try to clone onto B) 120GB (sdb) and is empty but everytime i use 'dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb' I end up with errors on sdb bad superblock what am i doing wrong?
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> funky2: maybe try clonezilla?
[07:55] <cogitation> I uninstalled and reinstalled steam and it still won't run.
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: YOU GOT AN ERROR ON STEAM?
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> oops
[07:56] <funky2> lotuspsychje: but this should work too besides isn't clonezilla using dd?
[07:56] <cogitation> still getting error messages:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/10936766/
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> funky2: not sure, bad blocks on ssd
[07:57] <rydzykje> hey guys, I have problem with my script. I want to install mysql from deb package. Im using debconf to configure root password but I cant uderstand why until i press two times "ENTER" script is waiting without any promt even . http://pastebin.com/Xrw4V6jV
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: can you check sudo lshw -C video behind driver=
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> !clone | funky2
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> funky2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/569004/clone-my-ubuntu-from-hdd-to-new-ssd-related-question
[07:59] <cogitation> Is that the syntax I need to use, lotuspsychje?
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: yeah i wanna know if your grafix card driver is loaded
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: sudo lshw -C video
[08:00] <cogitation> lotuspsychje:  when I run that command, it's not giving me output.
[08:01] <cogitation> it's telling me I didn't use proper syntax.
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: sudo lshw -C video in terminal should work
[08:02] <cogitation> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10936833/
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: tnx, seems fine driver loaded
[08:03] <cogitation> thanks for your help... what do you think?
[08:03] <cogitation> what should I try next?
[08:03] <cogitation> I did steam --reset, then just uninstalled and reinstalled
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: i found a thread of a guy removing that lib file, read last reply on the page: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=183659
[08:04] <funky2> thx lotuspsychje but that does not help though i booted into a live cd of gparted and use DD from there, I got this working before but for some reason i get this superblock error every time now, i tried with all kind of different bs sizes in dd but still, also ran e2fsck check on disks and they are fine
[08:04] <cogitation> ah, thanks lotus.  will give it a shot
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> funky2: brands of the ssd's?
[08:05] <mshadle> i just upgraded my server to vivid, and now i get "Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused"
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> mshadle: vivid uses now systemd instead of upstart
[08:06] <mshadle> yeah i know. but apparently standard/existing scripts didn't work
[08:07] <mshadle> like, ssh started, but now i can't restart the service. how did it start on boot? :
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> mshadle: maybe download a systemd service manager to get a better look on it? like jobs-admin
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> !info jobs-admin
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> mshadle: or pstree on terminal
[08:10] <mshadle> whoa looks like jobs-admin wants x11/UI
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> mshadle: oh right your on cli right
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> my bad
[08:10] <mshadle> yeah.
[08:10] <mshadle> but it still doesn't fix the issue where this upgrade just.. broke t hings.
[08:10] <mshadle> php5-fpm uses upstart
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> mshadle: maybe things got messed up on upgrade
[08:11] <mshadle> yeah actually.
[08:13] <mshadle> ok that's making more sense.
[08:13] <funky2> lotuspsychje: intel and ocz(larger one)
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> funky2: did you firmware your OCZ?
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> funky2: some OCZ would need a firmware upgrade before installing an Os
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> funky2: i would also reccomend you a fresh install on your OCZ after the firmware upgrade, not dd
[08:16] <cogitation> lotuspsychje:  having trouble locating those files in the steam directory at all
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: can you try whereis filename from termial perhaps
[08:17] <cogitation> doing a search for r600_dri in all files produces no results.
[08:17] <cogitation> Very new to Linux.  Didn't know whereis command.  Will do.
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: also doublecheck your additional drivers section, if more driver show up your list
[08:17] <cogitation> don
[08:17] <cogitation> don't know what you mean by additional drivers section
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: its weird steam complaints about the driver module
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: ubuntu start button/hardware icon
[08:18] <cogitation> where james@james-MainPC:~$ r600_dri:
[08:18] <cogitation> r600_dri:: command not found
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: dont remove that one right, thats your driver
[08:19] <cogitation> I'm actually not using a proprietary driver.  in "Additional Drivers"
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: how many drivers show?
[08:19] <cogitation> Hunh.  Just one.  One I haven't seen before...
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> ok
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> but is it enabled?
[08:20] <cogitation> "Using Processor micronode firmware for Intel CPUs from intel-microcode (properitary)
[08:20] <cogitation> Not enabled.
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: can you try enable
[08:20] <cogitation> sure
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: then after it loaded, reboot and try steam again
[08:21] <cogitation> didn't mention a reboot.  do I have to?
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: if the module loading is done yes
[08:22] <brucelee> running into an issue where root partition exists in /etc/fstab but somehow isn't in /etc/mtab... which means commands like 'df' doesn't show root partition
[08:22] <cogitation> lotus, how can I look for "r600_dri.so" anywhere on my Linux partition?
[08:22] <brucelee> this only exists in ubuntu 12, not ubuntu 14 though
[08:22] <brucelee> using lvm also gets rid of this problem it seems
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: you dont need that file mate, thats your actual driver module
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: try a reboot first and steam test
[08:23] <cogitation> Okay.  I will do so.
[08:28] <bojan> When i am trying to update my chroot i got this following error "http://paste.ubuntu.com/10937082/"
[08:30] <cogitation> lotus, are you there?
[08:30] <cogitation> lotuspsychje: are you there?
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: yes, anymore luck?
[08:30] <cogitation> Nope, I'm afraid not.
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: did you fresh install vivid or upgrade?
[08:31] <cogitation> upgrade.
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: did steam work on previous version?
[08:31] <cogitation> Yep.
[08:31] <Folatt> My problem -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2275897
[08:31] <cogitation> 14.10 worked fine.
[08:31] <cogitation> actually, I had 14.04, then upgraded to 14.10 then to 15.04
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: i would try a fresh install mate
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: 14.04 or 15.04 fresh with internet+updates enabled during setup
[08:32] <cogitation> whew.  Yeah.  That's a pretty huge attempt to fix this.
[08:32] <bojan> Folatt:Is your system drops into shell mode??
[08:32] <cogitation> huge job, I mean... like the nuclear bomb of problem fixing.
[08:33] <Folatt> bojan, yes.
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: well im not sure howto fix otherwise at this moment, maybe someone else might?
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: you can re-ask once in a while here
[08:33] <cogitation> Thanks for trying to help, though.
[08:33] <bojan> Folatt:When did you update your ubuntu last??
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: but if 14.04 and 14.10 runned steam flawless, i would suspect and upgrade issue
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> an
[08:34] <cogitation> can't argue with your logic.
[08:35] <Folatt> It's a new SSD, so it was empty when I started installing ubuntu on it, I upgraded it to 15.04.
[08:35] <bojan> Folatt:Go to the grub menu when system boots up you will find an option :Previous linux version"select any image from that and your computer boots perfect definitely
[08:35] <cogitation> is there something like a repair installation, to keep all settings but reinstall stuff like that?
[08:35] <Folatt> bojan, there is no grub menu. it immediately drops into shell mode.
[08:36] <Folatt> Perhaps I should accompany it with a video then.
[08:36] <brucelee> df doesnt show my root partition
[08:36] <Areks> Hi all, i got warning message "DNS lookups on ns373222.ip-188-165-234.eu took 103.625 milliseconds on average. Slow DNS lookups are often caused by incorrect DNS settings in /etc/resolve.conf" can you give some advices?
[08:37] <brucelee> root partition is declared in fstab using LABEL=blahblah ....
[08:37] <brucelee> somehow it doesnt show up in /etc/mtab
[08:37] <bojan> Folatt:No it wont...Try pressing ESC key continuously when the system turns on till it will drop to grub menu
[08:37] <Folatt> Okay, I'll reboot and make a video trying that. bbiab.
[08:38] <Folatt> bojan, see you soon.
[08:38] <bojan> When i am trying to update my chroot i got this following error "http://paste.ubuntu.com/10937082/"
[08:42] <quix> Hi. I have a dual-boot machine with Windows 8.1 and Ubuntu 14.04. On Windows, my Internet connection works fine. On Ubuntu, it stopped working properly a few weeks ago. Services like Firefox Sync or duolingo.com won't work on Ubuntu at all, while they work just fine on Windows, with the same connection! What could be the problem?
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: fix broken packages from grub recovery mode
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | cogitation
[08:42] <cogitation> oh wow... were  you looking that whole time?
[08:42] <gskellig> Hi all. After updating from 14.04 to 15.04 I'm not able to access my server via ssh.
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> cogitation: no, i was getting coffee :p
[08:43] <trijntje> quix: what exactly is the problem? Do you have a problem with internet or firefox sync?
[08:43] <cogitation> Oh, okay.  Well, thanks.
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> out now bbl
[08:43] <quix> trijntje, if you read my message, you will see that more then one service is being affected on Ubuntu....
[08:44] <quix> so I think the problem is in how my Internet is configured on Ubuntu
[08:44] <trijntje> quix: no, if that were the case nothing would work, not just 2 things
[08:44] <quix> but the thing is, I didn't change anything. Some sites just won't load properly at all...
[08:44] <hateball> quix: are you using IPv6 ?
[08:45] <hateball> Some faulty ipv6 configs can cause trouble
[08:45] <quix> trijntje, yea. whatever.
[08:45] <quix> there are more services being affect. you didn't read my message
[08:45] <quix> hateball, I am yes
[08:45] <Folatt> bojan, hang on a sec, I have two different...
[08:45] <quix> but i tried ignoring ipv6, to no avail
[08:46] <hateball> quix: how did you ignore it? using sysctl?
[08:46] <Folatt> two different boots ending up with the same issue.
[08:46] <quix> using the network gui
[08:46] <hateball> quix: you could try this "sudo sysctl -w net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6=1"
[08:46] <hateball> that will disable it for until you reboot
[08:47] <hateball> You may need to restart the applications so they re-bind
[08:48] <hateball> quix: Anyhow, that's just a way to diagnose the issue. If you actually need to use IPv6 then that issue should be fixed
[08:48] <rydzykje> Some1 here who can help me preconfigure deb package (mysql installation from deb) ?
[08:49] <Folatt> bojan, okay I'm gonna reboot again and make a video again.
[08:49] <Folatt> bojan, see you soon.
[08:56] <Folatt> bojan, know any good place where I can upload video?
[08:58] <boichev> Is there a channel for ubuntu touch on BQ Aquaris?
[08:59] <hateball> !touch
[08:59] <boichev> hateball thanks :)
[09:06] <d3v1l> hello
[09:07] <Folatt> hello d3v1l
[09:08] <d3v1l> i have install now linux ubuntu mate and i don-t know what is this app
[09:09] <MonkeyDust> d3v1l  learn i like you learned windows or mac: by using it
[09:09] <MonkeyDust> it*
[09:10] <d3v1l> i know usin windows...but i want learn about ubuntu
[09:11] <MonkeyDust> !manual | d3v1l
[09:11] <d3v1l> it is most beautifull
[09:14] <d3v1l> romanian ???
[09:15] <k1l_> !ro | d3v1l
[09:16] <d3v1l> thx
[09:17] <penos> !kr | d3v1l
[09:17] <penos> ...
[09:17] <penos> wtf
[09:17] <penos> no korean?
[09:17] <penos> !jp | d3v1l
[09:17] <penos> wtf
[09:18] <penos> korea is more developed than romanian
[09:18] <k1l_> penos: stop that
[09:29] <kn1ght> hey guys, any idea if this is still a relevant bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/1219337 ?
[09:32] <centrix> I have a 11.10 server and would like to install subversion offline. I am not a debian based guy. Can I have a few hints on how to, please?
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> centrix: 11.10 is eol
[09:32] <k1l_> you should at least upgrade to 12.04 since that is a LTS and still got support
[09:33] <centrix> lotuspsychje: Does that make me reinstall?
[09:33] <k1l_> centrix: no. you can upgrade
[09:34] <Seveas> kn1ght: it never was relevant.
[09:35] <hateball> !eolupgrade
[09:35] <hateball> centrix: ^
[09:36] <AlexisBRENON> Hi all. I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 and I'm not able to do any admin task in a graphical way (software center, shutdown, user & groups system settings). Nevertheless, I can use 'sudo' in CLI. Have you got any idea to how to fix this ?
[09:37] <centrix> k1l_: Ok. Simpleir ... I can switch to root, but have no physical access to the machine nor an influence on the officials to allow me an internet hookup. Nor have I the permission to upgrade ... etc. So, is it possible or not?
[09:38] <cage_raphel> AlexisBRENON,  pls use sudo add-apt-repository ppa:atareao/atareao .. then .. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install power-commands
[09:38] <Seveas> centrix: you can download the packages on another machine and transfer them manually. But don't count on support here for obsolete, unsupported releases.
[09:40] <centrix> Seveas: Good! Any link to such packages (as there may be dependencies)?
[09:42] <Seveas> centrix: as I said, don't count on support :)
[09:43] <centrix> Seveas: 1 2 3 4 5 ... support's gone. Ok. Now the pieces of advice :)
[09:43] <AlexisBRENON> cage_raphel, My problem is not only related to power management, but to any task which require root rights (mounting USB stick, unlocking settings, updating through update-center or installing through software center)
[09:43] <Seveas> centrix: pieve of advice is to upgrade :)
[09:43] <kn1ght> Seveas, can you elaborate? Does it mean that if I try this exploit it will not work? Because I, as a user, will not be able to reset the time? or because sudo doesn't keep /var/log/auth.log?
[09:44] <DarsVaeda> is there a clipboard that can change copied text, like make it all lowercase?
[09:44] <Seveas> kn1ght: what I mean is that the premise is ridiculous. If you can't count on people with admin rights locking their screens, this is just one of a thousand ways of abusing that.
[09:45] <Rory> kn1ght: There is a bug. Ubuntu people will defend this.
[09:46] <bojan> Folatt:??
[09:46] <Folatt> bojan, yeah sorry, just a sec
[09:46] <bojan> Folatt:Ya tel me
[09:46] <kn1ght> Seveas, yes, but admin is not necessarily the same as root.. and this effectively makes it the same. Either way, it's good to know that it is there at least.
[09:47] <bojan> Folatt:just share me the screen
[09:47] <Folatt> bojan, I'm uploading it right now.
[09:47] <bojan> ok ok
[09:49] <Folatt> With "two boots" I mean if I boot from my pendrive and choose "boot first hard drive", then it goes to intramfs immediately, as opposed to booting my SSD directly.
[09:53] <ppf> how do i change what gnome-open does with a file?
[09:53] <orakar> Test (ignore)
[09:53] <bojan> Folatt:Share the screen or video
[09:54] <Folatt> bojan, I'm reuploading on photobucket, for some reason it didn't upload.
[09:55] <bojan> Folatt:okay
[09:55] <Folatt> bojan, http://s284.photobucket.com/user/folatt/media/20150429_105021_zpsouxrmhna.mp4.html?sort=3&o=0
[09:56] <ppf> apparently gnome-open looks at mimeinfo.cache, but the precedence of the applications in that cache is fixed
[09:56] <ppf> is there a way to manipulate that externally?
[09:58] <bojan_> Folatt:I cant find anything
[09:58] <orakar>  /set bell_beeps ON
[09:59] <orakar>  /set beep_msg_level MSGS NOTICES DCC DCCMSGS HILIGHT
[09:59] <Folatt> bojan, what do you mean?
[09:59] <bojan_> Folatt:From that link i cant see anything
[10:01] <Folatt> What can you not see?
[10:02] <Folatt> Attempting to decrypt master key... Enter passphrase for hd0,msdos5 (59f0c94300134e049efe5d1aea7dc42e):
[10:03] <Folatt> I know the next screen is a little bit too much too the right
[10:04] <bojan_> Folatt:Send me the link again
[10:05] <Folatt> http://vid284.photobucket.com/albums/ll3/folatt/20150429_105021_zpsouxrmhna.mp4
[10:06] <phpcoder> hello
[10:06] <Folatt> Sorry, I never used photobucket before
[10:07] <phpcoder> my ubuntu 15.04 is not so reactive.... 14.04 was better...can i do something? i did not change anything about hardware
[10:09] <habid> i need help with my hp elite book folio ubuntu
[10:09] <habid> doesnt install my camara web
[10:24] <bojan_> Folatt:i have experience the same problem ones and i have done the solution which i said that i boot through a different kernel and it works...If you dont have anyother kernel i am helpless..Please ask someone
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> phpcoder  my advice: use what works best for you, 14.04 is supported until 2019
[10:25] <phpcoder> MonkeyDust, yeah it is correct...but strange...
[10:28] <Kartagis> and after that, install 18.04
[10:29] <injigo> obvious troll is obvious
[10:29] <Folatt> bojan_, okay, so you mean, add another kernel and it will work?
[10:29] <Odyn> Hi all
[10:30] <Folatt> bojan_, I added a different kernel and so I will test that.
[10:30] <Folatt> bbiab
[10:33] <soee> any ida why usb stick with ubuntu/kubuntu wont wont boot on some older PC ?
[10:34] <InFlames> i have a laptop running 14.04 and an external monitor over hdmi, when i disconnect the external all windows which were open on it get stuck offscreen, so i try to see them and they are loading on the non-existent external monitor
[10:34] <InFlames> soee, could be the boot order of the bios
[10:34] <soee> InFlames: bootable media is selected as first than hdd
[10:35] <InFlames> what os is it running?
[10:35] <InFlames> the stick
[10:35] <InFlames> i guess that is irrelevant
[10:36] <soee> InFlames: ubuntu/kubutnu i have tried, both created from tool availabel in os
[10:36] <InFlames> i know old macs can't boot via usb, could be something similar with pcs?
[10:36] <InFlames> but i feel going back pretty far we used to do it
[10:37] <hateball> soee: does it just skip booting, or do you get syslinux errors?
[10:38] <printul> aircrack-ng test tutorial
[10:38] <soee> hateball: just jums to grub, like it wont find any os on usb
[10:38] <soee> though the usb stick is visible
[10:40] <hateball> soee: some old bios are daft and wont recognize isolinux, you can try the manual step here to put syslinux on it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USB%20Installation%20Media
[10:41] <Odyn> welcome all
[10:41] <soee> is wubi supported these days
[10:41] <soee> to install *bunut  from windows session ?
[10:42] <hateball> It's deprecated afaik
[10:42] <hateball> !wubi
[10:42] <hateball> Hmmm
[10:43] <soee> well the PS is W7, no uefi, its like 6 or more years old
[10:43] <soee> *PC
[10:43] <hateball> Wubi is not a nice solution if you intend to only use Ubuntu
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> soee  wubi wil give you more problems than misery, do not use it
[10:44] <soee> MonkeyDust: well i used it on this PC last time i installed there ubuntu 14.04
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> soee  it's nice if you want to get familiar with the desktop, but not for production
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> for one, it cannot be upgraded
[10:51] <Folatt> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2275897 <- my problem
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> Folatt  i connot open links at this time, what's in it?
[10:52] <Rory> MonkeyDust: "I installed Ubuntu on a new SSD, which led to the wrong SSD being booted, then I did a boot-repair.
[10:52] <Rory> "Now my SSD is booted, but it ends up in intramfs and when I do ls, I see my /boot partition.
[10:52] <Rory> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10912467/
[10:52] <Folatt> Pretty much that.
[10:52] <Rory> so Folatt you have two physical drives in your system?
[10:53] <Rory> Folatt: Are you sure your BIOS is booting from the correct one? What happens when you try to boot from the other?
[10:53] <Folatt> Connected to my computer right now? Yes. But I intend to replace one with the other.
[10:53] <Folatt> The old one is only connected because that one I can boot.
[10:54] <Rory> So, you probably don't have a bootloader installed on the other drive
[10:54] <Folatt> I am IN the other one right now.
[10:54] <printul> anyone used aicrack without a wireless card ?
[10:54] <Rory> you want "grub-install /dev/sda" assuming /dev/sda is the problematic drive
[10:54] <Folatt> Rory, where can I see if bootloader is installed or not on the other drive?
[10:55] <Folatt> Yes, /dev/sda is the problametic drive
[10:55] <Folatt> *problematic
[10:55] <Rory> Folatt: I'm not sure how to verify that. But what I think is happening is, you have a bootloader on one drive, which is allowing you to load into the OS's installed on either
[10:57] <Folatt> Rory, but I've done this before and it didn't work. Have you seen the video I uploaded?
[10:58] <Rory> I can't watch a video right now
[10:58] <Folatt> Rory, I'm going to reboot and see if "grub-install /dev/sda" worked
[10:58] <Folatt> Installing for i386-pc platform.
[10:58] <Rory> OK make sure you change your BIOS to boot from it
[10:58] <htpc_> hi all
[10:58] <Folatt> Installation finished. No error reported.
[10:58] <Rory> I would recommend physically disconnecting the non-problematic drive for this maintanence if possible, to be sure you're working with the correct one at all times
[10:59] <Rory> If that's not straightforward then don't worry, but if it is, then there's definitely no harm
[10:59] <Folatt> Rory, no need to. It's set on that right now. I booted on this one by pressing F11.
[10:59] <Rory> OK so it's working now you have grub installed on it?
[10:59] <Folatt> Rory, kay, shutting down and rebooting right now..
[10:59] <Rory> I just want to tell you good luck. We're all counting on you
[11:03] <Folatt> Rory, wow! Thanks! For some reason it's no longer dropping to intramfs!
[11:03] <Folatt> It still is behaving oddly though.
[11:03] <Folatt> I mean, I get dropped to a grub shell.
[11:04] <Folatt> It's all shell.
[11:04] <Rory> Is it grub you're seeing? Or Linux? Are you able to switch to a different console with ctrl-alt-f1 ?
[11:05] <Folatt> Rory, I'll reboot and try. I managed to do "update-grub" as well now.
[11:09] <Folatt> Rory, hurray that works as well! Now the only problem I have is this weird double boot problem and it shows an error in grub right after I choose "ubuntu". I think it was "error: device not found"
[11:09] <Folatt> just a sec rebooting again.
[11:09] <Rory> Does it boot anyway despite the error?
[11:11] <sennn> what is snappy?
[11:11] <Folatt> Rory, "error: device name required"
[11:12] <Rory> sennn: In what context?
[11:12] <Rory> Folatt: Does it boot anyway, despite the error?
[11:12] <bazhang> !snappy | sennn
[11:13] <sudo_aptget_help> Hi there all, so does anyone know how to restart services in 15.04 now that restart doesn't work, in this perticular incedance I am wanting to restart network-manager
[11:16] <Folatt> Rory, Yeah, I'm in the new SSD right now. It boots anyway after a second restart. Perhaps they're not related, because I have the same problem with the old one and that one does not have that error.
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> sudo_aptget_help  can you not restart the service in /etc/init.d/
[11:17] <Rory> sudo_aptget_help: sudo service network-manager restart ?
[11:17] <d3vlin> Hi, since upgrading to 15.04, X/lightdm starts kodi xsession before network is ready. How do I prevent an xsession to start before the network is ready?
[11:19] <DarrenGao> hi all
[11:22] <strong> May I ask a question, How can I set GoldenDict autorun when system up(don't show the goldendict main window), I've tried (goldendict &) at "startup applications", but it still show the main window
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> !find goldendict
[11:23] <bazhang> !info goldendict
[11:24] <DarrenGao> !info man
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> strong: try man goldendict, perhaps you can make a startup from terminal and add arguments
[11:25] <kostkon> strong, why goldendict& and not just goldendict?
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> kostkon  the & sends the process to the background
[11:26] <kostkon> MonkeyDust, yeah i know, if you are in a terminal
[11:27] <DarrenGao> hi, strong. you can add command to your start up shell script
[11:27] <strong> thanks everybody, i've found it at edit-preferences-interface-start to system tray options
[11:29] <strong> a silly but useful solution
[11:45] <ricky_> #ubuntu-it
[11:46] <yuciyuar> is there a command to install from a specific ubuntu version's repo?
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> yuciyuar  don't mix different ubuntu versions
[11:48] <yuciyuar> just for installing lemp packages
[11:49] <Ben64> yuciyuar: don't mix different ubuntu versions
[11:54] <ciscam> Is there a means to make workspaces hide overflow?
[11:54] <ciscam> For example a full-screen remmina on one of the lower workspaces shows the 'hidden' panel on the above workspace
[11:56] <bobita> who can suggest me a good movie player? beside vlc, cuz i have some movies that has no sound with vlc
[11:57] <Ben64> bobita: mplayer2
[12:05] <madjoe> Hi! I used to scan normally via simple-scan with my Ubuntu 12.04, but since I made a clean installation of Ubuntu 15.04, I'm getting *** buffer overflow detected *** Any clues?
[12:05] <madjoe> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/colord/+question/266070
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> bobita  which players did you try?
[12:08] <bobita> vlc and the default one
[12:08] <Paddy_NI> Which apt-get switch simulates an install?
[12:09] <Paddy_NI> MonkeyDust BBC3 legend
[12:09] <MonkeyDust> Paddy_NI  apt-get install [package] --simulate
[12:10] <Paddy_NI> MonkeyDust, DOH
[12:10] <Paddy_NI> MonkeyDust, cheers mate
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> Paddy_NI  that wasnt too hard!
[12:20] <madghost|2> hi all
[12:21] <madghost|2> who knows, how to install Huawei 3G E173 into Ubuntu ?
[12:21] <madghost|2> I haven't see /dev/ttyUSB* files
[12:23] <Rory> madghost|2: Click on the network applet and select "edit connections". go to the "mobile broadband" tab and click the "Add" button and follow the wizard instructions
[12:23] <madghost|2> Rory: i have only console.
[12:23] <madghost|2> without GUI
[12:23] <Rory> ah OK I'm not sure how to do that then, sorry.
[12:24] <Funambuli> madghost have u tried with wicd-curses?
[12:24] <Rory> Guest99778: To be clear, do you already know how to set up a mobile broadband connection and are having trouble with that hardware? Or do you need to know what steps to follow to get connected?
[12:24] <Rory> madghost|2: ^
[12:24] <madghost|2> I found something, and reading it
[12:25] <Rory> madghost|2: because I'm not sure how to set up a connection from the shell, but I found an article about your hardware which says you need to set it to modem mode from mass-storage: http://www.geekride.com/huawei-e173-on-ubuntu/
[12:25] <Funambuli> u can set a connection on shell with wicd-curses
[12:26] <Rory> does wicd require you to not use networkmanager?
[12:26] <Funambuli> i dunno
[12:26] <Funambuli> its my network manager
[12:27] <Rory> It's been a very long time since I typed the characters "wicd" in that order, but from memory the two are mutually exclusive
[12:27] <krabador> 13.10 repos are still working?
[12:27] <Rory> !wicd
[12:27] <madghost|2> Rory: thank you, I will try
[12:27] <Funambuli> so i don't use anyother thing but if it is needed editing the connection files
[12:28] <Funambuli> but i don't understand the use of ubuntu on shell
[12:28] <Funambuli> it's better for that purpousse debian on shell
[12:28] <Rory> That's not really relevent though
[12:28] <Funambuli> it is
[12:28] <Funambuli> and i mean it
[12:28] <Rory> here we have someone using Ubuntu. "use debian instead" isn't a solution for this channel
[12:29] <Funambuli> u have to hack ubuntu with the amazon shit
[12:29] <Funambuli> and debian it's more stable
[12:29] <k1l_> Funambuli: stop that ranting in here. this is a support channnel
[12:29] <Rory> Funambuli: Look I'll take the bait but not here. come in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:29] <Mete-> what amazon shit?
[12:29] <Funambuli> just support no reflexion or subjection?
[12:29] <Rory> yes.
[12:29] <Funambuli> ok see u alligators
[12:30] <Funambuli> sorry for making u think
[12:32] <kazdax> I just installed ubuntu
[12:33] <kazdax> when it do speedtest for internet ..its slower on ubuntu
[12:33] <Funambuli> just one last thinking
[12:33] <k1l_> Funambuli: no
[12:34] <Rory> kazdax: I'd probably disregard a one-off discrepency in a speed test benchmark. If you notice an obvious pattern of reduced speed in Ubuntu then there's a problem
[12:34] <kazdax> yes i am comparing by downloading some torrent with alot of seeds
[12:35] <Funambuli> if i hadn't have told what i told i shouldn't have givven what i think it's the best support, even if that means change of god or distro
[12:35] <Rory> as in, if it's consistently slower, connecting to the same server, then we can start to diagnose. Otherwise there's not a lot to go on
[12:35] <kazdax> Rory ..If i see a difference then ill let you know
[12:39] <neldogz> Anyone experiencing trouble booting their 15.04 system on Software Raid? Every 3rd or 4th boot systemd is getting hung at what appears to be when attempting to load the disks. Then I see an error stating Task dump error then iterates through each CPU
[12:39] <kazdax> Rory my internet is slower on ubuntu
[12:39] <kazdax> I downloaded the same torrent and it reaches 6.6 mbs
[12:39] <Rory> kazdax: Are you on wifi?
[12:40] <kazdax> which dint do it on my ubuntu ..on the ubuntu it was 3.7 maximum
[12:40] <kazdax> ethernet
[12:40] <Rory> kazdax: What network device do you have? Find out with "lspci | grep -i net"
[12:40] <kazdax> yes definatly the speed is faster on windows
[12:40] <madghost|2> Rory: so, what I did... I connect 3g modem to Windows, connect to COM port of 3g modem, input AT^U2DIAG=0 mode only modem. connect to Ubunto, and it works!!!
[12:40] <madghost|2> thank you.
[12:40] <kazdax> okay .. Rory ...I will connect to my ubuntu ...hen i will get back to you
[12:41] <Rory> Glad to hear it, madghost|2 :)
[12:41] <XenophonF> on a mac, how do i manually install grub so that i can use it with rEFInd?
[12:41] <Rory> XenophonF: the command "grub-install"
[12:42] <Rory> !grub | probably some info here XenophonF
[12:42] <XenophonF> yeah, i've been looking at that
[12:42] <Rory> I'm not familiar with rEFInd to be honest. What causes this to be different from a normal installation of grub?
[12:43] <Rory> And what exactly do you mean by "manually" ?
[12:43] <XenophonF> from the command prompt - i'm not using the graphical installer
[12:43] <XenophonF> hang on a sec - i'll post a gist with what i've done so far
[12:43] <Rory> Yeah the grub-install command does pretty much what it sets out to
[12:44] <XenophonF> https://gist.github.com/xenophonf/5fdaac7e31f1903253c1
[12:44] <XenophonF> so the disk is partitioned using gpt
[12:44] <kazdax> Rory, what was the command i needed to execute
[12:44] <kazdax> i just logged into my ubuntu machine
[12:44] <Rory> kazdax: lspci | grep -i net
[12:45] <kazdax> okay its working now
[12:45] <Rory> kazdax: That will tell me what network hardware you have
[12:45] <kazdax> the speed test worked now
[12:45] <kazdax> ill try and download the torrent
[12:45] <kazdax> and see if it gets back
[12:45] <XenophonF> it's set up to dual (duel!) boot, so there's an EFI partition, an HFS+ partition, an EXT2 /boot, and a LUKS partition
[12:46] <XenophonF> oh, there's another HFS+ partition in between the first HFS+ one and the EXT2 /boot for recovery
[12:46] <XenophonF> i have rEFInd installed on the EFI partition - it supplants the Apple boot manager, and it can boot Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, etc.
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> XenophonF  summarize that or show a screenshot/paste
[12:47] <Rory> It's going to be difficult to do this reliably with a torrent. Can you test with a large, single file over HTTP?
[12:47] <capsicum> Hi, been trying to install 14.04.2 server from usb but getting bad cd rom erro.
[12:47] <XenophonF> it's all in the gist i just posted
[12:47] <Rory> kazdax: Here's a 100 meg file on a gigabit connection http://flashheart.rory.sh/100-meg.txt
[12:47] <XenophonF> actually, i've got a detailed install procedure
[12:47] <XenophonF> problem is, when i boot it drops me into the initrd and goes no further
[12:48] <Rory> kazdax: Because my hunch is still that there isn't actually a difference and it's still just coincidence
[12:48] <XenophonF> i suspect that the LUKS stuff isn't right, but i'm not sure where to look in the initrd config
[12:48] <Rory> XenophonF: This is a bit out of my remit, and I don't want to incorrectly advise you and hose your bootloader
[12:48] <kazdax> Rory its working fine now
[12:48] <XenophonF> like, i can give the correct kernel command line to rEFInd - so maybe grub is unnecessary
[12:49] <XenophonF> but once it loads up the initrc, LUKS isn't prompting me for the root container password
[12:49] <XenophonF> Rory: the machine's a dev box so i'm not worried about hosing it :)
[12:49] <Rory> I think Grub is aware of LUKS, and it's Grub that handles the asking for the password (but I might be wrong)
[12:49] <jpds> Rory: Not by default.
[12:50] <jpds> Rory: GRUB knows about initramfs.
[12:50] <jpds> Rory: And initramfs knows about LUKS.
[12:50] <Rory> I'm basing that purely off remembering seeing some LUKS stuff in a grub config file.
[12:50] <Rory> yes jpds that sounds more likely
[12:50] <XenophonF> yeah, initramfs is supposed to handle the LUKS stuff
[12:50] <XenophonF> so i have an unencrypted boot volume that has the kernel and initrd images on it
[12:51] <XenophonF> and rEFInd can see those without any difficulty
[12:52] <XenophonF> hm, i think part of my config can be streamlined
[12:52] <XenophonF> e.g., the zfs pool can refer to the dm devices directly, not sure why i need to alias those again
[12:53] <XenophonF> but still, not sure where in the initramfs configs i need to tweak the luks bits
[12:53] <capsicum> team, cant get 14.04.2 x64 to boot from usb. keep getting error Failed to copy file from CD-ROM Retry?
[12:53] <k1l_> capsicum: how did you make that live-usb?
[12:53] <k1l_> capsicum: did you check the md5sum?
[12:54] <capsicum> tried new usb, tried changing bios to windows 7 os, downloaded image again. nothing works.
[12:54] <Rory> capsicum: you need to (a) check that the image you downloaded is correct, and (b) check that it was copied to the flash drive correctly
[12:54] <Rory> Oh OK
[12:54] <Rory> capsicum: What are you using to make the usb?
[12:54] <capsicum> I do an md5 check on the iso again.
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> capsicum: did you put bios to usb boot first?
[12:55] <Rory> capsicum: At what point in the process is the error displayed?
[12:55] <capsicum> used the F12 and selected the usb
[12:55] <XenophonF> i added a file to /etc/initramfs/conf.d called "root0" (the alias for my luks container)
[12:55] <XenophonF> maybe that bit is wrong
[12:56] <XenophonF> it also looks like the initramfs scripts expect the zfspool to be called "rpool" instead of tank, which is what i named it
[12:57] <XenophonF> hm
[12:57] <ilham> 12345
[12:57] <ilham> ilham
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> capsicum: can you anwser what k1l_ asked, how did you make the usb
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> ilham  it works, we see you
[12:58] <ilham> i dont now
[12:58] <XenophonF> cryptsetup isn't part of the initrd
[12:58] <cfhowlett> ilham, ask your ubuntu questions
[12:59] <MobileRoey> MonkeyDust:  hahahaha nice nick
[12:59] <rydzykje> hello guys, I have problem with starting MYSQL - when i write "service mysql start" im getting /var/log/mysqld.log: permission denied (and few others permission denied for log files in usr/bin and var/log), any ideas why?
[12:59] <Umeaboy> Hi!
[13:00] <XenophonF> i'm going to look over https://wiki.ubuntu.com/initramfs and the various encryptedfilesystem howtos
[13:00] <XenophonF> worst case, i'll do a regular desktop install and try to reverse engineer the initramfs config it generates
[13:01] <capsicum> Rory, after I select the keyboard and indicates retrieving live components
[13:01] <XenophonF> also found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomizeLiveInitrd
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:01] <capsicum> Rory, unfortunately the screen flashes so fast I can see the specific file it stops on but is consistent as it stops at the same point
[13:02] <Umeaboy> What do I do to install libXi.so.6 in 15.04 for x86_64? I used this guide to make a bootable USB drive with Windows 7 on it, but failed so I therefor searched and found this old page to fix it: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[13:02] <neldogz> Anyone experiencing trouble booting their 15.04 system on Software Raid? Every 3rd or 4th boot systemd is getting hung at what appears to be when attempting to load the disks. Then I see an error stating Task dump error then iterates through each CPU
[13:02] <capsicum> I may try 12.04 to see I reproduce the issue. Perhaps h/w
[13:02] <Pici>  /36
[13:03] <Umeaboy> neldogz: What filsystem does that disks have?
[13:03] <rydzykje> hello guys, I have problem with starting MYSQL - when i write "service mysql start" im getting /var/log/mysqld.log: permission denied (and few others permission denied for log files in usr/bin and var/log), any ideas why?
[13:03] <Umeaboy> rydzykje: Use sudo in front.
[13:03] <Umeaboy> sudo service mysql start
[13:03] <rydzykje> Umeaboy: im on root acc, doesnt matter
[13:04] <Umeaboy> OK.
[13:04] <rydzykje> that's why it's strange..
[13:04] <MrElendig> so fix the permission on the log files
[13:04] <Umeaboy> ls -l /var/log/
[13:04] <MrElendig> give the user that mysql runs as write access to them
[13:04] <neldogz> Umeaboy, Ext4 on Software Raid 0 (Ubuntu 15.04 server install) with Ubuntu Desktop
[13:04] <MrElendig> either directly or trough group
[13:04] <Umeaboy> chown 775 /var/log/mysqld.log
[13:04] <MrElendig> don't do that
[13:04] <Umeaboy> Really?
[13:04] <Umeaboy> I always do that.
[13:05] <Umeaboy> No problem doing so.
[13:05] <Umeaboy> 664 then?
[13:05] <MrElendig> random users should not have access to the logs
[13:05] <Umeaboy> Right.
[13:05] <MrElendig> at all
[13:05] <Umeaboy> Then chown username /var/log/mysqld.log
[13:05] <Umeaboy> sudo first thou.
[13:06] <Umeaboy> neldogz: Could be the reason for it.
[13:06] <orogor> hi
[13:06] <Umeaboy> Check if you get the same problem with another filsystem.
[13:06] <Umeaboy> filesystem
[13:06] <rydzykje> hello guys, I have problem with starting MYSQL - when i write "service mysql start" im getting /var/log/mysqld.log: permission denied (and few others permission denied for log files in usr/bin and var/log), any ideas why?
[13:06] <MrElendig> gind out whihc user mysql runs as, and chown/mod so that that user have write access
[13:06] <Umeaboy> rydzykje: We told you already.
[13:06] <orogor> is there any important issues left in the last realease ? is now a good time to upgrade or should i wait some more ?
[13:07] <MrElendig> rydzykje: >_>
[13:07] <neldogz> Umeaboy, I cant change the file system. It is the filesystem Ubuntu is installed on. I had the exact same setup on Ubuntu 14.10 and no issues
[13:07] <Umeaboy> orogor: You should always update to stable releases unless you really have a broken system already.
[13:08] <Umeaboy> neldogz: OK. You have any backups saved to check the changes?
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> or stick to LTS
[13:08] <k1l_> orogor: what ubuntu version are you on?
[13:08] <Umeaboy> I have minor crashes in 15.04 so I'm not complaining.
[13:09] <orogor> 14.10
[13:09] <neldogz> Umeaboy, which changes are you referring to?
[13:09] <k1l_> orogor: you got 3month to upgrade to 15.04 now. after then 14.10 will be shut down.
[13:10] <orogor> i ask because some release had good  bootloader or audio  bug in major version change
[13:10] <rydzykje> Guys I used, chown 775 and also 664 and the result is the same
[13:10] <rydzykje> anyway that log files are not created because of "permission denied"
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> rydzykje  good, 664 is safer than 775
[13:11] <rydzykje> MonkeyDust: but result is the same, :(
[13:11] <Umeaboy> neldogz: Problem is with mount right?
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> rydzykje  great, then use the safer version
[13:11] <rydzykje> maybe i should rise service permissions when running?
[13:12] <neldogz> Umeaboy, I believe so but difficult to tell since there is no real error just a bunch of data spewed out after Task Dump for CPUx
[13:12] <neldogz> Umeaboy, happens systemd is referencing the raid
[13:12] <Umeaboy> Right.
[13:12] <capsicum> Rory, now this is interesting same error with 12.04.5.
[13:13] <Umeaboy> Check on bugs reported against systemd then? :)
[13:13] <capsicum> It's gigabyte nuc, perhaps there is problem with it.
[13:14] <rydzykje> which permisions should have my.cnf file ? 0644 ?
[13:14] <MrElendig> 640 or 660
[13:15] <MrElendig> depending on the ownership
[13:15] <Deathcrow> I am trying to rebuild a kernel module for the ubuntu stock kernel, but when I try to insmod it I get "Invalid module format". I don't want to boot into an entirely new kernel...
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> Deathcrow  #ubuntu-kernel
[13:16] <Deathcrow> MonkeyDust: okay, thanks
[13:18] <rydzykje> MrElendig: ownership?
[13:21] <neldogz> When a system is booting and systemd is displaying messages across the screen.. where is that stored?
[13:21] <Umeaboy> neldogz: /var/log/messages perhaps?
[13:22] <Umeaboy> Check in /var/log to begin with.
[13:22] <Umeaboy> There might also be a /var/log/boot
[13:22] <neldogz> Umeaboy, Ubuntu 15 no longer has messages
[13:22] <Umeaboy> Oh?
[13:22] <Umeaboy> OK.
[13:22] <neldogz> Umeaboy, no boot either...
[13:22] <Umeaboy> journalctl then?
[13:23] <neldogz> Umeaboy, will try that
[13:24] <Xultz> Hello, I would like to install 15.04 via wubi. When i click on the cd drive on WIndows, it opens the wubi installer, but it wants to download and install 14.10. I copied it to the same folder where the .iso is, and it still wants to install 14.10. What should I do to install 15.04?
[13:24] <Umeaboy> Xultz: Install 14.10 and upgrade in it. :)
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> Xultz  wubi is not a good idea
[13:24] <Umeaboy> sudo do-release-upgrade :)
[13:25] <Xultz> Why not, Monkeydust?
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> Xultz  because it is a pseudo installation and will give you more problems than frustration... for one, it cannot be upgraded
[13:26] <daftykins> Xultz: avoid it like the plague it is.
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> Xultz  wubi means Will Ultimately Be Inefficient
[13:26] <Xultz> Ok. I wanna install in my working machine, which have one partition with Windows on it. Is it safe to resize the partition and install on it?
[13:26] <daftykins> which Windows ? 8?
[13:26] <Xultz> 7
[13:26] <daftykins> factory install it came with, or otherwise?
[13:27] <teward> Xultz: you can resize the partition live if you have Windows 7 or later - it can resize its own partition while you're booted.   How do I do it?
[13:28] <EriC^^> control panel > type disks in the search
[13:28] <daftykins> Xultz: run diskmgmt.msc then right click the partition, and resize
[13:28] <Deathcrow> Can anyone in here help me how to compile a kernel module for the stock ubuntu kernel? no one in #ubuntu-kernel is responding...
[13:28] <Xultz> Yes daftykins, is a Dell machine with factory Windows on it
[13:28] <daftykins> note that you must have an empty recycle bin, a defragmented drive (if it's a mechanical HDD) before trying
[13:28] <daftykins> Xultz: ok you might have more partitions on that disk than you expect, then such as for recovery.
[13:28] <Xultz> ok, I'll try it, thank you so much for all!
[13:29] <daftykins> np
[13:29] <cookie> Hello
[13:29] <daftykins> teward: ^5 go team!
[13:29] <daftykins> :D
[13:29] <teward> daftykins: :)
[13:29] <Cimpresovec> Hello
[13:30] <daftykins> hi
[13:30] <EriC^^> Xultz: did you make recovery disks yet?
[13:30] <teward> daftykins: fun fact: my cyber forensics course is what taught me Windows can resize its own partition xD
[13:30] <Cimpresovec> Any info on the nvidia driver problems with 15.04
[13:31] <daftykins> teward: interesting 0o
[13:31] <k1l_> Cimpresovec: what issues?
[13:31] <Cimpresovec> I can't event try the new version from a bootable USB
[13:31] <k1l_> !details | Cimpresovec
[13:32] <Cimpresovec> I get the ACPI PPC Probe failed. Starting version 219 error when trying to boot the ISO from a USB drive, using a laptop with dual graphics
[13:32] <Cimpresovec> can't even get to the login screen
[13:32] <Cimpresovec> Previous version work fine with or official drivers installed
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> PPC, like in mac PPC ?
[13:33] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: no :P
[13:33] <Cimpresovec> No
[13:34] <flipapy> is there a way to set fle in my pictures folder to run the images in it changing every 5 seconds or so?
[13:34] <Cimpresovec> Don't know exactly what the error is
[13:34] <flipapy> a file*
[13:34] <flipapy> i mean in the backround, geez lemme rephrase
[13:35] <Rory> flipapy: you want a photo slideshow wallpaper?
[13:35] <flipapy> can i set my backround image to change every 5 seconds using a folder of images in my pictured folder?
[13:35] <flipapy> thanks Rory
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> flipapy  you need to create a xml file to achieve that
[13:35] <Rory> flipapy: I like Shotwell image manager. http://askubuntu.com/a/120965
[13:35] <flipapy> but basically yeah i guess that's it, i want a constant changing of images, where i get to determine the images
[13:35] <flipapy> like every few seconds
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> flipapy  i'd like to look it up (xml file for slideshow), but cannot open FF, due to VMware eating Ãmy cpu
[13:37] <rydzykje> any ideas why mysql service during start can't create this "/var/log/mysqld.log" ? it's giving me error Permission denied, and service can't start....
[13:38] <flipapy> ok MonkeyDust thanks though
[13:38] <EriC^^> rydzykje: type ls -l /var/log/mysqld.log
[13:38] <rydzykje> EriC^^: file does not exists, service can't create it
[13:38] <Rory> flipapy: did you see my link? Shotwell comes with Ubuntu
[13:39] <EriC^^> rydzykje: maybe it got deleted by mistake?
[13:39] <EriC^^> rydzykje: try dpkg -L <sql package> | grep /var/log
[13:39] <Intergamme> Bonjour à tous
[13:40] <flipapy> yeah Rory thanks im looking ninto how
[13:40] <Rory> flipapy: sleect the photos you want to use, go file -> set as desktop slideshow -> done
[13:43] <prestorium> hi all. I have 14.04.02. I need to downgrade it to 14.04. Is it possible?
[13:43] <EriC^^> prestorium: no
[13:44] <daftykins> nope.
[13:44] <daftykins> prestorium: also, why?
[13:44] <prestorium> daftykins, because puppet-enterprise 3.8 won't install on 14.04.02. I can upgrade after
[13:44] <rydzykje> EriC^^: dpkg -L mysql-community-server |grep /var/log - is not giving any result
[13:45] <EriC^^> rydzykje: ok, type ls -ld /var/log
[13:45] <daftykins> prestorium: is it 14.04 updated to 14.04.2, or 14.04.2 installed fresh? the difference is the former would be on a 3.13 kernel whilst the latter would be on a 3.16 kernel
[13:46] <rydzykje> EriC^^: drwxrwxr-x 10 root syslog 4096 Apr 27 11:00 /var/log
[13:46] <flipapy> yeah it's working, gonna tweak how the pics frame up, they are acting buggy but it's working, thanks Rory
[13:46] <prestorium> daftykins, Google Cloud Engine, so dunno. I think that it is a fresh install
[13:46] <EriC^^> rydzykje: how do you run the sql server?
[13:46] <rydzykje> EriC^^: service mysql start
[13:47] <prestorium> daftykins, the only difference is the kernel?!
[13:47] <rydzykje> EriC^^: Im on the root acc
[13:47] <daftykins> prestorium: some kinda VPS? ok not touching that :)
[13:47] <daftykins> prestorium: run "uname -r" to confirm
[13:48] <daftykins> 14.04.2 comes with the utopic HWE
[13:48] <prestorium> daftykins, VPS. The kernel is 3.16.
[13:48] <daftykins> yeah, likely running 3.16 is what's ruining your plans
[13:48] <daftykins> but i couldn't comment on how or if you can install 3.13 instead given your setup
[13:48] <prestorium> daftykins, so... if I could downgrade the kernel I should be fine?
[13:48] <prestorium> hmm :)
[13:49] <EriC^^> rydzykje: i have no idea
[13:49] <rydzykje> EriC^^: anyway thanks
[13:49] <EriC^^> rydzykje: it looks like a permissions error, is there an sql user?
[13:50] <daftykins> prestorium: i'm not guaranteeing it, but it's what i'd try
[13:50] <rydzykje> EriC^^: which user?
[13:50] <EriC^^> like www-data for apache
[13:50] <prestorium> daftykins, if things go wrong, I can nuke the VM and try again
[13:50] <rydzykje> EriC^^: in mysql is called "mysql" ?
[13:51] <prestorium> daftykins, linux-headers and linux-image? Do I need anything else?
[13:51] <rydzykje> EriC^^: in my.cnf in section [mysqld] there's user=mysql
[13:51] <EriC^^> rydzykje: try typing groups sql
[13:51] <EriC^^> groups mysql
[13:52] <rydzykje> EriC^^: by type: groups mysql i received: mysql: mysql
[13:55] <flipapy> ok, how do i stop the slideshow Rory ?
[13:55] <Rory> flipapy: No idea m8. Right-click desktop -> change wallpaper -> select some other image
[13:55] <Rory> flipapy: Not sure if you can pause/skip etc like KDE
[13:56] <flipapy> ha, good one, now i have some ghost operation just floatng around in the back end. lol, ok, well its still a nice os, thanks though, it works. :)
[13:56] <EriC^^> you probably have to stop it from shotwell
[13:57] <Rory> flipapy: I think shotwell probably just generates the relevent xml slideshow file and feeds it to Unity
[13:58] <Rory> rather than drawing it itsself
[13:58] <flipapy> cool, thanks Rory
[13:58] <rydzykje> EriC^^: I've created manualy /var/log/mysqld.log and gave permissions 1777 and mysql started...
[13:59] <rydzykje> EriC^^: how can I check which permisions have service to create logs?
[14:00] <rydzykje> EriC^^: the problem is for sure that ,service has not permisions to create files in /var/log , is it possible to edit it?
[14:00] <flipapy> ok, dont hate me for saying the word windos (joke) but in windows i can right click desktop backround and move to next image. is there something similar here?
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> flipapy  never heard of such option and never needed it
[14:02] <flipapy> yeah MonkeyDust i gtet that, but sometimes i just get tired of looking at the backround image, really retty pic, and i just click to the next one
[14:02] <daftykins> that is only available when you have a set of wallpapers selected
[14:02] <daftykins> on rotation
[14:02] <AmazinglyDumb> heylo
[14:02] <brice> What is the difference between kernels linux-generic-lts-trusty vs linux-image-generic-lts-trusty?  I can't find any answer or faq anywhere.  Thanks
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> flipapy  use your file manager to select the pic you want, set it as background from there
[14:03] <k1l_> brice: the linux-image-.. is just the kernel, the other will install the headers, too
[14:03] <flipapy> yeah MonkeyDust thats what i was doing, just that i was wondering if something had been developed
[14:03] <AmazinglyDumb> my co-worker has a problem with skype under ubuntu: when he launches it - there's no skype icon on the top toolbar (sorry, I don't know how it's called)
[14:03] <AmazinglyDumb> and thus he can't enter skype settings
[14:03] <flipapy> oh and since when does skype charge for use?
[14:03] <brice> k1l_ Thank you very much.
[14:04] <AmazinglyDumb> flipapy: I guess it doesn't
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> flipapy  skype belongs to microsoft now, we can't change their policy
[14:05] <flipapy> AmazinglyDumb, i wanted to test skype in my wndows phone recently and 'bonk' it wants like 10 bucks just to get started i know is ther a better chan for this topic?
[14:05] <flipapy> MonkeyDust, thanks, i know i wasnt ocmplaining
[14:05] <petrvs> it's always been more popular to charge people for phone apps
[14:05] <petrvs> use a free webrtc app instead
[14:05] <AmazinglyDumb> flipapy: oh, sorry, I thought you were replying to my problem
[14:06] <flipapy> its ok no prob
[14:06] <AmazinglyDumb> so does anyone know how to fix the missing skype icon?
[14:06] <AmazinglyDumb> at least tell how's that top toolbar called
[14:08] <k1l_> AmazinglyDumb: "panel"
[14:08] <AmazinglyDumb> k1l_: adbar :D
[14:09] <flipapy> ok thanks for all the help :)
[14:09] <k1l_> AmazinglyDumb: you might need to whitelist the skype indicator
[14:10] <AmazinglyDumb> k1l_: how?
[14:10] <AmazinglyDumb> I've made a fresh ubuntu install and fresh skype install - and it just there when I run skype
[14:10] <AmazinglyDumb> but my coworker has the same version of ubuntu and same version of skype and the icon is not there
[14:10] <XenophonF> how do i replace grub-pc with grub-efi?
[14:11] <XenophonF> do i just install grub-efi?
[14:11] <AmazinglyDumb> and uninstall grub-pc
[14:11] <AmazinglyDumb> :)
[14:11] <k1l_> AmazinglyDumb: http://askubuntu.com/questions/151112/how-do-i-get-the-skype-status-icon-back-on-panel-tray
[14:11] <XenophonF> hah thanks AmazinglyDumb
[14:11] <XenophonF> got it
[14:12] <octopissed> got this error when sshing into a Lunix box: X Error: GLXBadContext 169
[14:12] <octopissed> I am trying to run a program that renders a 3D surface so I suppose this has to do with OpenGL=
[14:12] <octopissed> it worked fine prior to most recent upgrade.
[14:12] <AmazinglyDumb> k1l_: thx!
[14:13] <XenophonF> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/EFI-Boot-Mactel
[14:14] <prestorium> daftykins, I installed 3.13, booted and I'm trying to install puppet again. Thanks
[14:14] <daftykins> np
[14:16] <janier> hola
[14:16] <petrvs> janier: shalom
[14:17] <Johnny_Linux> ohluh
[14:20] <aldnk> Networking question. I have a bunch of different software that's running on localhost instead of <IP_ADDRESS>. Which means I can't access it externally. Is there a way to generically bind anything that's running on localhost to <IP_ADDRESS>? I'd rather not have to find `n` different ways to do it for `n` different pieces of software
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> aldnk  yes, add it in /etc/hosts
[14:21] <aldnk> MonkeyDust: will that break <IP_ADDRESS>?
[14:21] <aldnk> MonkeyDust: I'm wondering if it will impact software expecting something there
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> aldnk  redirecting a url to <IP_ADDRESS> in /etc/hosts made it unreachable, not sure about localhost, tho
[14:23] <aldnk> MonkeyDust: I guess I mean, if I already have a line: <IP_ADDRESS>   localhost -- do I add another line <IP_ADDRESS> localhost? Or do I have to break <IP_ADDRESS> and replace it?
[14:23] <MonkeyDust> don't rmember exactly how I did it, it was for testing purposes
[14:23] <daftykins> aldnk: you should really just learn to configure each of these services properly
[14:24] <ciscam> Is there a means hide the overflow of workspaces?
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> aldnk  rereading your question, i guess your issue is still different from what i tried to suggest
[14:26] <ngochai> Hi guys, why my root partition is mounted as /dev/root but not /dev/mmcblk0p2?  http://pastebin.com/GKBy4MHe
[14:26] <aldnk> daftykins: Just curious if there was a OS/kernel level way to do this instead
[14:26] <daftykins> is this a chromebook?
[14:26] <k1l_> ngochai: what system is that?
[14:27] <ngochai> k1l_, ubuntu armhf
[14:27] <ngochai> 14.04
[14:27] <k1l_> ngochai: better ask in #ubuntu-arm
[14:28] <petrvs> ngochai: what's it matter, really
[14:29] <ngochai> petrvs, my scripts won't work with /dev/root
[14:29] <petrvs> ngochai: your scripts are inflexible
[14:30] <ngochai> petrvs, you are right, but that's not what I am asking
[14:30] <rainbowwarrior> Hi , I am running Ubuntu 15.04 and Virtualbox 4.3_26 and i upgrading from Ubuntu 14.10 and now i get this error :- http://pastebin.com/yXHRxVSt  and running the command it says in the error it gives me the error " bash: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: No such file or directory " can anyone help please ?
[14:30] <rainbowwarrior> sorry meant upgraded from 14.10 to 15.04
[14:30] <ATar> good afternoon. I have repeatedly tried to upgrade from 14.10 server to 15.04. always fails with UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xae in position 337: invalid start byte . any ideas? thank you.
[14:31] <petrvs> ngochai: it's configured that way via udev or some other means
[14:31] <petrvs> ngochai: you can un/reconfigure it the same way
[14:33] <pc_magas> Hello I have a minor issue when I execute some commands (in a php script but it is not the issue) as www-data
[14:34] <somsip> pc_magas: explain more about the issue
[14:34] <petrvs> rainbowwarrior: you're probably missing virtualbox guest additions
[14:34] <pc_magas> The problem is that even though I put the correct commands into /etc/sudoers file it does not allow me to execute it
[14:34] <petrvs> rainbowwarrior: ask apt-file what package provides vboxdrv, then install it
[14:34] <petrvs> pc_magas: probably not correct, then
[14:34] <somsip> pc_magas: you're trying to run system commands as the superuser through a php script?
[14:35] <pc_magas> somsip, yes but theese 2
[14:35] <daftykins> how delightfully insecure.
[14:35] <pc_magas> Can you sugest me a pastebin to paste the sudoers files?
[14:35] <somsip> pc_magas: I won't help you. It's a Bad Thing [TM] to do.
[14:35] <pc_magas> daftykins, I just allow to run these comands and not any command such as rm
[14:36] <daftykins> hah :P i hope that thing is not shared online
[14:37] <aldnk> Maybe a better question. How can I expose localhost externally?
[14:37] <pc_magas> daftykins, actually is a background php script to convert some powerpoint files
[14:37] <petrvs> aldnk: noip
[14:37] <pc_magas> and the sudoerd file is http://pastebin.com/vVb9mk28
[14:38] <pc_magas> The comands I run are sudo -u www-data sudo /usr/bin/unoconv -f pdf presentations/GallupDC.ppt 2>&1
[14:39] <Cellis> Hello, im running 14.04 and I'm having trouble with connecting to my VPN. I can connect to other VPN servers like frootvpn but not mine. I have tested connecting to the server from other computers without problems.
[14:39] <mcphail> pc_magas: why are you trying to get www-data to escalate to root????
[14:39] <pc_magas> And sudo /usr/bin/convert presentations/GallupDC.pdf presentations/GallupDC/GallupDC%d.png
[14:39] <pc_magas> mcphail, because this command I posted above cound not be executed otherwhy
[14:39] <pc_magas> The point is to execute these commands
[14:41] <somsip> pc_magas: you get php to save the files somewhere, then run a background process to check 'somehwere' for files that need converting. You run that process safely, away from your web server. This is not an ubuntu support issue though
[14:41] <mcphail> pc_magas: there is no way you should escalate www-data's priveleges to do that
[14:41] <pc_magas> somsip, I develop in ubuntu ;)
[14:42] <somsip> pc_magas: not a support issue. A problem with finding a solution to a dev problem. I've given you some advice, but it is offtopic here
[14:42] <aldnk> noip isn't quite what I'm looking for -- not talking about DNS. I mean if I have something running on localhost:$PORT, how can I access it on $IP:PORT? How do I externalize that localhost port?
[14:42] <pc_magas> somsip, thanks
[14:42] <mcphail> pc_magas: follow somsip's suggestion and read about inotify/incrontab
[14:42] <oafoa> How can I create an ubuntu startup usb from Debian Jessie? apt-get install unetbootin doesn't work, package not found.
[14:42] <petrvs> aldnk: exactly like that
[14:43] <k1l_> oafoa: just use dd to "burn" the iso to the usb
[14:43] <rainbowwarrior> petrvs :- I tried doing a search for it and nothing :(
[14:43] <aldnk> petrvs: noip as in http://www.noip.com/?
[14:43] <petrvs> aldnk: exactly like ip:port
[14:44] <mcphail> aldnk: the server will have a conf file where you can choose which range of addresses to listen
[14:44] <daftykins> petrvs: i don't think you quite follow aldnk's query, in the example the service is bound to localhost only and will not respond to queries on the external interface
[14:45] <petrvs> what example
[14:45] <daftykins> aldnk: seriously, just reconfigure the services and do it properly. looking for shortcuts *will* bite you on the ass
[14:45] <octopissed> I am trying to open a program that renders 3D objects in Ubuntu via SSH -XY, but I am getting a lot of GLX errors such as GLXBadContext, GLXBadDrawable, etc. I had no problems with this program prior to updating Ubuntu, so it's likely due to changes in my graphics drivers or settings following the upgrade.
[14:45] <tasteless_ninja> aldnk: ngrok is probably what you're looking for
[14:45] <daftykins> otherwise tunnel it over SSH maybe ;)
[14:46] <octopissed> I am using a proprietary driver from my graphics card and it's supposed to be the most stable and relatively new. I think it's the same I used earlier. I've tried using a few different drivers but I keep getting the same problem.
[14:46] <octopissed> the program that I am trying to open works fine, but the area where the 3D rendering is not loading.
[14:46] <petrvs> octopissed: knowing is better than thinking
[14:47] <daftykins> octopissed: what card and which driver?
[14:47] <Wololo22> Hi guys
[14:47] <daftykins> octopissed: and what did you upgrade, 14.10 -> 15.04 ?
[14:47] <octopissed> daftykins: yes.
[14:47] <Wololo22> somebody know where can I get the ralink driver?
[14:47] <Wololo22> *for wireless card
[14:47] <ATar> good afternoon. I have repeatedly tried to upgrade from 14.10 server to 15.04. always fails with UnicodeDecodeError: 'utf-8' codec can't decode byte 0xae in position 337: invalid start byte . any ideas? thank you.
[14:48] <daftykins> octopissed: and my other query?
[14:48] <petrvs> ATar: upgrade by doing what?
[14:48] <octopissed> apparently not, I am using Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS. it might not have upgraded because I am using the Gnome 3 version of Ubuntu?
[14:48] <daftykins> octopissed: LTS does not upgrade to 15.04, you have to go via 14.10 first.
[14:49] <ATar> petrvs:  do-release-upgrade
[14:49] <octopissed> "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q35 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)"
[14:50] <pbx> i'm looking for an utility that automatically executes commands of my choosing based on triggers of my choosing. e.g. AC adapter plugged in? raise brightness. does it exist?
[14:51] <petrvs> pbx: you probably want pm-utils/laptop-mode-tools
[14:51] <pbx> i can write the detectors and the actions, but was hoping the engine is built
[14:51] <pbx> ooh, thanks petrvs, i'll look at that
[14:52] <octopissed> daftykins: hm, OK. well, anyway. it's fine for me not to upgrade. I just want to find out how I can make Xforwarding work again.
[14:52] <petrvs> raise brightness I don't know if you'll have an "event" for, but since you'll probably be personally requesting it, you can tack any alterations onto your script
[14:52] <ultragamecard> hello
[14:52] <daftykins> octopissed: that wasn't even part of your initial description :) does this program work locally?
[14:52] <xbb> Helo. I installed Ubuntu 15.04 on Dell OptiPlex 7010 and experince significant lag in mouse movements ad typing. Everything worked fine in installation screen, but once instaled lag started. Any ideas how to fix this? I think it migh have to do with video card, this machine has Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller
[14:52] <octopissed> daftykins: it does.
[14:53] <Rory> ricky_: You can view/edit your software sources with a GUi by searching for "software and updates" in the Dash
[14:53] <Rory> ricky_: Looks like that problem repository is still enabled, and that's why apt-get is hanging (because the website is down)
[14:53] <daftykins> octopissed: then it's nothing to do with drivers on the host running the program
[14:53] <Rory> ricky_: so it must have been in another place from the one you just deleted
[14:53] <petrvs> ultragamecard: 'lo
[14:53] <ricky_> Rory, where? :S
[14:54] <octopissed> daftykins: I believe it has to do with the drivers on the client.
[14:54] <octopissed> my graphics card is: product: GF119M [NVS 4200M]
[14:54] <willow19> i forgot my password
[14:54] <willow19> how can i get it mailed on my email?
[14:54] <daftykins> octopissed: ok so what ubuntu version is on that host?
[14:54] <Rory> willow19: Password to what
[14:54] <daftykins> and which driver is in use...
[14:54] <ultragamecard> still using 14.04
[14:54] <ricky_> Rory, isn't helpful the link that i've post before?
[14:54] <willow19> for my nick
[14:55] <adamlxs> Hello can you tell me whether it is worth upgrading to ubuntu 15
[14:55] <willow19> which i believe was registered as 'willow'
[14:55] <ricky_> Rory, to verify where is this repo that always asking if i do apt-get update?
[14:55] <ultragamecard> no
[14:55] <Rory> ricky_: Yes it's helpful, it's telling me exactly what the problem is and how to fix it. I've explained exactly what the problem is, and how to fix it, and now I'm waiting for you to let me know you've done it
[14:55] <somsip> adamlxs: do you want bleeding edge or stability? What are you runnig now?
[14:55] <k1l_> willow19: ask in #freenode
[14:55] <octopissed> daftykins: 15.04.
[14:55] <daftykins> be back in a bit.
[14:55] <adamlxs> i am running the latest verstion of ubuntu 14 and it runs well
[14:55] <petrvs> adamlxs: if you aren't going to upgrade, you should find another distro
[14:56] <somsip> adamlxs: 14.10? Only supported until July. So maybe you will have to change sooner or later
[14:56] <ricky_> Rory, uhm well i've done it but no luck there in not any link about the repo russo79 in the list in etc/apt
[14:56] <petrvs> sitting on old software is not a great idea
[14:56] <somsip> !14.10 | adamlxs
[14:57] <Rory> ricky_: What's the full output of the command: grep -r russo79 /etc/apt
[14:57] <Rory> ricky_: if it's more than one line, but it on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:57] <adamlxs> thanks but the other version comes with 5 years support correct me if i am wron
[14:57] <adamlxs> g
[14:57] <octopissed> daftykins: sorry, it's the other way around. the client has 15.04 and the host has 14.04. I recently upgraded the client to 15.04 and I believe that is the cause of the problems.
[14:57] <ricky_> Rory, /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gnome15.list:deb http://packages.russo79.com/debian/gnome15 precise main
[14:58] <adamlxs> but bleeding edge and stability sounds good to me
[14:58] <octopissed> maybe I should just upgrade the host and see if that helps.
[14:58] <somsip> adamlxs: well, stable would be LTS like 14.04. 15.04 is probably stable enough for most personal use though
[14:59] <Rory> OK ricky_ so remove that file. Carefully run "sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/gnome15.list" - I say carefully because it won't ask for confirmation before deleting so if you make a typo you can make big messes
[14:59] <adamlxs> ok thanks i think ihave 14.04.02
[14:59] <adamlxs> 14.04.2 i meant
[14:59] <ricky_> Rory, ok
[14:59] <somsip> adamlxs: unless you need some package that is more up to date than that offered by 14.04, it may be worthwhile staying with a stable system. Your call though
[15:00] <ricky_> Rory, well done it's workin ;)
[15:00] <ricky_> working*
[15:00] <Rory> ricky_: Once it's removed, you should be able to run "sudo apt-get update" without error. Once that has completed, you should run "sudo apt-get -f install" and then proceed with the installation of those debs you downloaded
[15:00] <adamlxs> i think ill back up my stuff and give it a whirl
[15:00] <somsip> adamlxs: happy whirling
[15:00] <adamlxs> thanks for help
[15:00] <Rory> I'm afk for 10 ricky_ but if you mention my name I'll see when I get back
[15:01] <oafoa> How can I create a startup usb for Ubuntu from Debian Jessie? Someone here told me to use dd but I wasn't able to boot from the usb created with this: sudo dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M && sync
[15:01] <ricky_> Rory, ok
[15:01] <EriC^^> oafoa: dd usually works
[15:02] <EriC^^> oafoa: did you checksum the iso?
[15:02] <k1l_> oafoa: was /dev/sdx the /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb2?
[15:02] <oafoa> k1l_: /dev/sdb1
[15:03] <EriC^^> oafoa: it has to be /dev/sdb
[15:03] <ricky_> Rory, done but always stuck here http://postimg.org/image/8bvl91n9d/
[15:04] <oafoa> EriC^^: k1l_: Alright I'll give that a try. Thanks.
[15:04] <Rory> ricky_: did you run "sudo apt-get -f install" first?
[15:04] <k1l_> oafoa: and that is wrong. you need to dd to sdb not sdb1
[15:04] <ricky_> Rory, yes
[15:04] <askon> I have an old laptop  that has a screen broblem it goes all black , and i have some documents in its hard drive , can i access its hard drive from my computer using a usb cable and how ??? please help
[15:04] <Rory> !info python-uinput
[15:05] <Rory> ugh what do I mean
[15:05] <ricky_> Rory,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/10941126/
[15:05] <EriC^^> askon: do you have an external monitor or lcd tv?
[15:06] <Rory> ricky_: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[15:06] <ricky_> Rory, the last ubuntu 15.04
[15:06] <somsip> Rory: https://launchpad.net/python-uinput
[15:08] <askon> EriC^^> what do you mean i just want to transfer the document i need fro the old laptop to my new one , and i was wandering if i can link the two laptops with a usb cable and from then i can see the directories of my old harddrive  , because i dont have an adapter like this http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-SATA-Drive-Adapter-Cable/dp/B00HJZJI84/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1430319875&sr=8-1&keywords=usb+to+sata+adapter
[15:08] <Rory> ricky_: This could potentially go on quite a long time. This project gnome15 appears to be somewhat dead
[15:09] <ricky_> ricky_, well when i've upgraded to the previous version of ubuntu all workings well, now i've done a fresh clean install and that's why i'm here
[15:10] <kunji> askon: use a network cable, I'm skeptical of that other way working out.
[15:10] <EriC^^> askon: i think it depends on how the laptop is setup, if it's not setup for networking like that i don't think you can access the files
[15:10] <askon> EriC^^ ; is it possible ? or I have to buy that adapter ??
[15:10] <Rory> ricky_: I would suggest the following, however: "sudo dpkg -i --force-all ~/Downloads/Gnome15\ Debs/*.deb"
[15:10] <EriC^^> askon: you can hook them up, but you need to set it up from the old laptop, i think
[15:10] <Rory> ricky_: and then "sudo apt-get -f install"
[15:10] <ricky_> Rory, ok i try
[15:10] <kunji> askon: network cable is faster anyway...
[15:10] <Rory> ricky_: I have assumed you extracted that file to your Downloads directory, you will need to change the path if you extracted it somewhere else
[15:11] <ricky_> ok
[15:11] <Rory> ricky_: I would like to see the output from that, if possible
[15:11] <EriC^^> askon: if you don't have an external monitor, you can use a tv to setup the old laptop
[15:11] <Rory> ricky_: Be prepared to not get this working, however
[15:12] <askon> EriC^^> you mean use the tv as a sctreen for my old laptop ?
[15:12] <XenophonF> looks like installing grub-efi automatically removes grub-pc
[15:12] <EriC^^> askon: yes
 can i use my current computer screen instead ??
[15:13] <EriC^^> is it an external one?
[15:14] <EriC^^> askon: sure, you can use it
 no it's not , it s a laptop
[15:15] <EriC^^> i'm not sure, unless it has an hdmi in or something maybe
[15:15] <EriC^^> maybe you can, i don't know
[15:16] <ricky_> Rory, all debs are here --> ricky@ricky:~/Scrivania/Gnome15$
[15:17] <ricky_> Rory, what is the right command to send via shell?
[15:17] <Rory> ricky_: sudo dpkg --force-all -i ~/Scrivania/Gnome15/*.deb
[15:18] <ricky_> Rory, ok it's running
[15:18] <Rory> the "force-all" basically says, yes I know about the missing dependency, I want you to install it anyway and I'll deal with it myself later
[15:18] <ricky_> Rory, and the next step? this working woothout errors
[15:18] <ricky_> without*
[15:18] <Rory> Once this has completed you will need to run: sudo apt-get -f install
[15:19] <Rory> I would expect it to work this time, as last time it was trying to download packages from that broken repository
[15:19] <ricky_> Rory, done and now?
[15:19] <Rory> apt-get -f install worked?
[15:19] <Rory> did it do anything?
[15:19] <ricky_> Rory,  yes it seems
[15:20] <ricky_> Rory,  yes do you want the paste?
[15:20] <Rory> ricky_: sure
[15:20] <Rory> ricky_: Now you have the packages installed, you should continue with your original instructions from after the step where you are supposed to "apt-get install" those packages
[15:20] <Rory> The point of this exercise was to get the packages that "apt-get " was trying to download, manually install them
[15:21] <ricky_> Rory, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/10941220/+
[15:21] <ricky_> Rory, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10941220/
[15:22] <octopissed> exit
[15:22] <ricky_> Rory, tell me if it's ok
[15:23] <Rory> ricky_: That looks like the output of the "dpkg -i ..." commands
[15:23] <Rory> ricky_: Sorry I missed both are there
[15:23] <Rory> wow so that actually worked
[15:23] <Rory> I mean, I never doubted it
[15:24] <ricky_> Rory, ok so i will continue i don't need to reboot or similar isn't it?
[15:24] <Rory> ricky_: You will want to reboot now, in order to load the new kernel module (aka driver) you just installed
[15:24] <Rory> ricky_: There's probably other ways you could do it, but reboot is easiest
[15:25] <ricky_> Rory, ok i'm on a i7 4970k ssd and 2133 mhz 16 gb i hope it will be fast the reboot
[15:25] <Rory> ricky_: I don't think there are any more steps actually. Your keyboard ought to work when you reboot, and you should have a new application in the launcher for settings
[15:25] <Rory> ricky_: yes yes very nice, now off you go
[15:26] <ricky_> Rory, i will be back soon
[15:26] <Rory> I'm sure it will be extremely speedy on your hardware
[15:27] <Kion> what is evolution dataserver
[15:27] <ricky_> Rory, done but it's look like first
[15:28] <petrvs> Kion: to do with the Evolution email client
[15:28] <petrvs> if you don't use it, you don't need it
[15:28] <petrvs> it might be used for your email or calendar or a few other things
[15:28] <petrvs> contact db, blah blah
[15:28] <Kion> petrvs: I do not have Evolution installed, I have thunderbird, but I get a message from time to time saying applications no longer have acces to my hotmail account,
[15:29] <petrvs> personally, I wouldn't want applications to have access to my hotmail account...
[15:29] <Rory> ricky_: Are you able to run the new application?
[15:29] <Kion> petrvs: I checked auth.log and it is evolution dataserver, I just want to know If I can uninstall it without breaking thunderbird
[15:30] <ricky_> Rory, uhm no i haven't the icon in the upper part in the taskbar
[15:30] <Kion> petrvs: I agree I don't want it accessing my account, the good thing is that it is an abandoned account
[15:30] <Rory> ricky_: There will be a new application in the dash
[15:31] <Rory> ricky_: Not sure what it'll be called
[15:31] <Kion> petrvs: I guess I will "sudo apt-get purge evolution-dataserver" and hope I don't break thunderbird
[15:31] <ricky_> Rory, uhm also the display of the keyboard is the same with logitech and nothing more
[15:31] <petrvs> thunderbird does not require eds
[15:32] <petrvs> it's possible it can be built in a way it will fail without eds, but that would be silly indeed of the application authors
[15:32] <Kion> petrvs: Ok Great thanks! i will try
[15:32] <petrvs> actually I'm not even sure thunderbird supports eds
[15:32] <Rory> ricky_: The instructions you had originally said to select "kernel driver" option instead of "g19direct" driver in the settings application
[15:32] <Kion> I will report if it goes wrong just for the record
[15:32] <petrvs> in any way
[15:32] <petrvs> Kion: good plan
[15:33] <ricky_> Rory, so whats the next step yto run it?
[15:34] <Rory> ricky_: I don't know. Open the application and poke around
[15:35] <Rory> ricky_: I was just helping you with the errors you were getting following the instructions you linked me originally. I don't actually have the keyboard in front of me
[15:35] <bugs_bugger> hi. big apache issue: i have 12.04 server and tried to upgrade to php5.4 via ppa. didnt work, ppa-purge leaves me with a configtest error. mod_access_compat.so is missing and seems to be a part of apache2-bin which is not available through repos. any ideas?
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> bugs_bugger  there's also #ubuntu-server
[15:36] <somsip> bugs_bugger: did you use ondrej PPA?
[15:36] <bugs_bugger> someone: yes ondrey
[15:37] <bugs_bugger> someone: sorry, wrong nick
[15:37] <bugs_bugger> somsip: yes, ondrej
[15:37] <somsip> bugs_bugger: it pulls in a load of dependencies that are not obvious unless you are very careful. I'd imagine it will be non-trivial to revert everything
[15:37] <kunji> bugs_bugger: umm, it should be in the repos, probably a part of a package though, since that's just the executable.
[15:37] <Kion> petrvs: Thanks no problem from deleting evolution-dataserver
[15:37] <somsip> kunji: no, PHP is on 5.3.10 for 12.04
[15:37] <bugs_bugger> somsip: oh my...
[15:38] <ricky_> Rory, i don't see the application which folder it will be located?
[15:38] <somsip> bugs_bugger: yeah - nearly did that myself when I was on 12.04 but read round it and found warnings
[15:38] <kunji> somsip: apache2, not PHP, or is it really that old?
[15:38] <Rory> ricky_: not sure, try searching for "logitech"
[15:38] <bugs_bugger> somsip: stupid me. i had a hunch that it might not work
[15:38] <somsip> kunji: 2.2 on 12.04
[15:38] <somsip> bugs_bugger: I don't have a solution, but be prepared for a rebuild or 14.04 to get them via the official repo
[15:39] <kunji> bugs_bugger: if possibly you should try to move to 14.04 anyway.
[15:39] <ricky_> Rory, no :( don't worry maybe it's impossible to do it in a new fresh install
[15:40] <Rory> ricky_: It might be. Ask again in here in an hour or so, perhaps someone else will have your keyboard
[15:40] <ricky_> Rory, ok thanks anyway
[15:41] <Rory> ricky_: If someone else offers to help you, explain that you have followed these instructions http://www.linux-hardware-guide.com/uk/2014-06-11-logitech-g19-gaming-keyboard-usb-wired but used packages downloaded from http://trynet.ch/?p=215
[15:41] <bugs_bugger> somsip: im a little desperate to be honest. by rebuilding you mean settings and configs or sources?
[15:41] <somsip> bugs_bugger: it might be worth ugly combinations of ppa-purge and forced installs, or try some of these http://is.gd/8KzgT8 http://is.gd/Iie1Cn http://is.gd/ZYH0U5
[15:41] <kunji> bugs_bugger: After purging the ppa, did you remove and reinstall php?
[15:41] <somsip> bugs_bugger: reinstall unless you can find a way of uninstalling. One/any of the above might do it for you, but it could get ugly
[15:42] <bugs_bugger> somsip: thank you. im so mad at myself right now...hopefully it works
[15:42] <somsip> bugs_bugger: good luck
[15:42] <bugs_bugger> kunji: no. ill try.
[15:43] <bugs_bugger> somsip: thanks
[15:46] <kunji> bugs_bugger: Because I don't think purging a ppa removes the packages installed from it.  It's basically what's they're doing in the links from somsip, removing all the php packages and then reinstalling some stuff/moving to a different ppa in the 1st link (oldstable).   If you're going to try those, back up any configuration files you need information from to a different location (e.g. if you've customized your apache2.conf or php.conf, httpd, etc...
[15:48] <bugs_bugger> kunji: k, thanks
[15:48] <kunji> bugs_bugger: If the configuration is the same as before, then you could use remove instead of purge to keep the current config files, but if there is a problem in them, then there will still be a config error.
[15:49] <bugs_bugger> kunji: right now, i already have a configtest error, stating a certain module is missing: mod_acess_compat.so. i dont happen to be able to install that manually?
[15:49] <petrvs> Kion: now the real trick is avoiding it being reinstalled on update :p
[15:50] <kunji> bugs_bugger: you probably could, I don't know the details of the individual php libs.  Lets do some Googling.
[15:51] <Thenewone> Hi guys
[15:52] <Thenewone> any one know a documentation about installing windows via ubunt server ?
[15:52] <compdoc> via?
[15:53] <SchrodingersScat> the windows guys don't know?
[15:53] <Thenewone> :D
[15:53] <Thenewone> via a server
[15:53] <daftykins> Thenewone: you can use virtualbox in CLI only mode
[15:53] <daftykins> but no, you would have to look up guides for yourself
[15:54] <teward> Thenewone: 'via a server' is vague - explain what you mean by that
[15:54] <k1l_> Thenewone: where comes ubuntu into the game, when you want to install a windows OS?
[15:54] <teward> Thenewone: do you mean line PXE boot an ISO of Windows from an Ubuntu PXE server?  You'd probably need guides for that elsewhere...
[15:54] <Thenewone> teward, yep
[15:54] <daftykins> aaah teward wins the prize for guessing the users' intent
[15:54] <Thenewone> i want install windows for my little broter he dont understand linux
[15:54] <Thenewone> he found it hard for him he still a kid
[15:54] <Kion> petrvs: I used to have evolution long time ago, It might have stayed in the system since...
[15:55] <daftykins> Thenewone: so why not just... do it directly? why complicate matters?
[15:55] <jean_> jean971
[15:55] <teward> daftykins: only reason i could guess was a similar situation at a friend's workplace, so I've heard that question before :P
[15:55] <Thenewone> i want learn that's it
[15:56] <kunji> Thenewone: There's nothing harder about it.
[15:56] <Thenewone> thanks guys
[15:56] <daftykins> Thenewone: it's not a standard thing so i'd say it's totally pointless
[15:56] <Thenewone> lol who are you decide if it's pointless or not
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> Thenewone  the younger they learn ubuntu, the better
[15:57] <daftykins> Thenewone: someone with over 20 years experience and understanding in this field.
[15:57] <daftykins> but of course, do what you want - just don't blame me when you want the time wasted back :)
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> Thenewone  it's simply a matter of "getting used to", he has to learn it like he learned windows: by using it
[15:57] <daftykins> likely TFTP boot is what you want.
[15:57] <Thenewone> thanks but daftykins do you know how to do it ?
[15:58] <daftykins> i believe i just said
[15:58] <Thenewone> so it's pointless
[15:58] <kunji> Thenewone: If you want to do it, there are ways to get Windows running in virtualbox.  It's not really a 3d gameworthy solution though.  I think it's mostly done for simulation networks of windows machines for penetration testing.
[15:58] <Thenewone> :D
[15:58] <daftykins> yeah, why not just install Windows from a flash drive like normal...
[15:58] <Thenewone> my little brother play wow
[15:59] <daftykins> assuming we're understanding you properly
[15:59] <Thenewone> he is little guys be easy one me
[15:59] <kunji> Thenewone: It won't work well on a virtual machine, I promise.
[15:59] <teward> Thenewone: WoW won't work effectively from a Windows VM
[15:59] <Thenewone> i just want install windows fom my laptop he is in other room
[16:00] <teward> Thenewone: you can't if he's on that laptop.
[16:00] <eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee> that is exactly as annoying i thought it would be
[16:00] <teward> Thenewone: except in a VM and WoW / games won't work well from it
[16:00] <kunji> Thenewone:  You may get it working, be prepared for long hours of fiddling, good luck, and it will not work well even if it does "work".
[16:00] <Thenewone> i will lookit for my self
[16:00] <bugs_bugger> kunji: i disabled some mods: access_compat, mpm_prefork, authn_core, authz_core, socache_shmcb. you happen to know about them?
[16:00] <Thenewone> i'm not gonna use vbox
[16:00] <teward> Thenewone: as a gamer myself (STO, Call of Duty) i know for an ABSOLUTE FACT WoW and others won't run well from a VM
[16:00] <bugs_bugger> kunji: now it works again
[16:01] <Thenewone> ok guys thanks for all talks without any help
[16:01] <daftykins> Thenewone: walk in there with a flash drive and install it normally :>
[16:01] <Thenewone> i want learn new way to install things
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> Thenewone  make sure your brother doesnt get too familiar with windows
[16:02] <Thenewone> i know how use flash drive,cd,hdd external, via server i dontknow i want learn it but it's ok i will know how it's works
[16:02] <kunji> bugs_bugger: Nope, I don't know, I don't mess with server internals much.  Did your apache version change due to the ppa as well though?  Because 2.2 and 2.4 have lots of changes.  http://serverfault.com/questions/386687/update-to-apache-2-4-missing-modules
[16:02] <Thenewone> belive me
[16:02] <Thenewone> i installed for him linux but he want cry lol
[16:02] <k1l_> Thenewone: how to make a windows install is not in the focus of this channel.
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> Thenewone  that happens when you have to learn something new
[16:03] <kunji> Thenewone: You could try WINE if you're aiming to get WOW working.
[16:03] <Thenewone> I used playonlinux
[16:03] <eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee> Thenewone: how old is he?
[16:03] <k1l_> Thenewone: ##windows migth help you on that.
[16:03] <daftykins> most of you are misunderstanding the query
[16:03] <Thenewone> he want his icons and stuf
[16:03] <Thenewone> guys i'm not asking about windows
[16:04] <kunji> Thenewone: Errr, does your linux not have icons?    I'm not sure what that has to do with icons and WOW though?
[16:05] <k1l_> Thenewone: so please ask ##windows what you need for a network windows install.
[16:05] <Thenewone> ok ok
[16:05] <Thenewone> i will change my question
[16:05] <Thenewone> forget about windows
[16:05] <Thenewone> i want install ubuntu 15 via ubuntu server
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> Thenewone  and make your brother listen to you, what you want
[16:06] <Thenewone> how do i preper my ubuntu server ?
[16:06] <Thenewone> forget about win.... ok guys
[16:06] <k1l_> Thenewone: :/
[16:06] <Thenewone> i want install ubuntu via ubuntu server
[16:06] <kunji> Thenewone: Rather, just clarify it.  What do you mean install .... oh... you mean you want to do an installation over the network?
[16:06] <Thenewone> installation over the network
[16:07] <k1l_> Thenewone: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DisklessUbuntuHowto
[16:07] <Thenewone> omg why you didnt give me this from the first time :D
[16:08] <Thenewone> thanks i will try
[16:08] <k1l_> Thenewone: that will not work with windows that way
[16:08] <Thenewone> Oo
[16:08] <kunji> Thenewone: This may also help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot  Because we didn't understand your question.
[16:08] <Thenewone> lol
[16:09] <Thenewone> ok thanks any way
[16:09] <Thenewone> i will learnit
[16:10] <Thenewone> have a good day
[16:10] <kunji> Thenewone: you too ^_^
[16:12] <dasfasfas> selam
[16:29] <teward> if I have two gnome-terminal sessions open, and I define a variable, say, $ARCH_TO_USE (for pbuilder / sbuild chroot creation), will that be per-terminal window/session or no?
[16:29] <petrvs> teward: easily tested
[16:29] <teward> petrvs: equally easy for you to answer.
[16:29] <petrvs> echo $ARCH_TO_USE
[16:29] <petrvs> yes, I could test it for you
[16:29] <petrvs> and then serve you breakfast and do your laundry =)
[16:30] <Guest61615> hi, can someone help me with using vaapi for hardware accelerated video on intel graphics?
[16:31] <teward> petrvs: i've done testing (slowly) but meh
[16:32] <brainwash> Guest61615: help with what exactly?
[16:32] <daftykins> Guest61615: in Kodi by any chance?
[16:32] <petrvs> teward: =)
[16:32] <Guest61615> using mpv
[16:33] <Guest61615> when i specify using vaapi, videos playback with a black screen
[16:33] <Dsbeerf> Hello, someone can help me i did alot of search on google but don't find what my problem can be i try to install vnc on a remote server but when i connect is just gray nothing on it
[16:33] <Guest61615> even though vainfo seems to show good information
[16:34] <brainwash> Guest61615: I suggest that you ask in #mpv and/or #intel-gfx
[16:34] <Guest61615> thank you, will do
[16:34] <petrvs> Dsbeerf: did you install a window manager / X?
[16:34] <jpwhiting> is there a way to search for the installed package that provides "xserver-xorg"
[16:35] <NONEW> Hi all.
[16:35] <Dsbeerf> petrvs, yes
[16:35] <jpwhiting> I don't see an option to search provides in apt-cache or apt-get
[16:35] <petrvs> jpwhiting: apt-file / dpkg -L
[16:35] <NONEW> where i should start learning programming?
[16:36] <lungaro> does apt.conf have a way to configure a proxy timeout? http or ftp timeouts do not work
[16:36] <petrvs> NONEW: http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/
[16:36] <EriC^^> !find xserver-xorg | jpwhiting
[16:36] <EriC^^> jpwhiting: use ubottu here, or install the package apt-file
[16:37] <jpwhiting> EriC^^: thx
[16:37]  * jpwhiting looks
[16:37] <jayjo_> does anyone know how to access google cached pages for a specific date?
[16:37] <jayjo_> where is the appropriate place to ask that question?
[16:38]  * Guest64757 is looking for a nice CL utility to minitor network bandwidth