[21:27] <zykotick9> kulitorum: but /etc/X11/xorg.conf if it does ;)
[21:29] <javierf_> trism, but, what I know if that, changing icon theme, those icons change. Thing is, those in my icon theme are not displayed nicely, and I would like to go to that icon-set and changing those icons for some I like more. I've done that before succesfully, but this time I can't figure out how to do it. I found where those icons where places (status->48), removed them and place new ones with the same name at the same place. But I don't get it to display the
[21:29] <javierf_> icons I placed there (which where 24 pix instead of 48 cause I didn't have the 48 ones) but other ones that I have no idea where are them. So, now it's just a matter of discovering how to do such thing and why those I wanted are not displayed
[21:30] <DrMax> question: when is 12.10 due ?
[21:30] <ChrisWere> tj-: okay I've tried that, no success.
[21:30] <yeehi> On a fresh virtual installation of backtrack 5r3, I attempt an update and receive an error message - my anti-virus terminates the connection as it detects JS/TrojanDownloader.Agent.GJ trojan. The command: gem install librex -v '0.0.68' causes the anti-virus to terminate the connection.  What should I do?
[21:30] <zykotick9> !schedule | DrMax
[21:30] <trism> javierf_: oh I see, let me see if I can find the icon names for you
[21:30] <yeehi> (sorry not directly Ubuntu - nobody in #backtrack is answering...
[21:31] <DrMax> zykotick9 : thx
[21:31] <bekks> !backtrack | yeehi
[21:31] <zykotick9> yeehi: see "/msg ubottu backtrack" for support options
[21:31] <TJ-> ChrisWere: OK... have you totally powered off the monitor (pulled the plug out of the wall-socket) ?
[21:31] <Hundertfuss> wow, nice
[21:32] <TJ-> ChrisWere: This often happens when the monitor gets its internal memory corrupted.
[21:32] <yeehi> hello bekks
[21:32] <Hundertfuss> somebody from ex YU?
[21:32] <ChrisWere> TJ-: okay, should i logout/login after I try that?
[21:32] <tiox> I'll ask once more, I asked about this problem last night -- In Ubuntu 11.10, my USB modem worked, an LG Turbo provided by AT&T. In 12.xx, it does not.
[21:32] <yeehi> thanks zykotick9
[21:33] <yeehi> i have waited a long time in #backtrack and nobody has replied
[21:33] <kulitorum> I added modes "1280x1024" to my xorg.conf, but I still can only select 640x480 in displays. How can I force higher resolution? (there's no resolutions listed under "Monitor" should there be?)
[21:33] <tiox> lsusb brought up three devices; Two from Alcor, the SD card reader and TruInstall storage space, and one being the actual modem itself. usb-modeswitch isn't working.
[21:33] <pepee> kulitorum, in the console use xrandr
[21:33] <tiox> How can I fix this? I found the stock config file in /usr/share/usb-modeswitch/configPack.tar.gz.
[21:33] <zykotick9> kulitorum: what video card?
[21:33] <yeehi> i think that it is strange that updating librex starts a trojan
[21:34] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Yes, so that the X server can get the EDID from the monitor again. If that doesn't work - and as it was working until this morning, I would be considering and inspecting the physical connections of the monitor to the PC for any possible minute changes
[21:34] <kulitorum> xrandr lists 640x480 and 320x240
[21:34] <kulitorum> Quadro 4600
[21:34] <kulitorum> ..or maybe 4700
[21:34] <zykotick9> kulitorum: "lspci | grep -i vga"
[21:35] <kulitorum> It worked fine on another 1920x1200 monitor, but this one is connected with a 15pin d-sub
[21:35] <kulitorum>  NVIDIA Corporation G80 [Quadro FX 4600] (rev a2)
[21:35] <kulitorum> so I guess there's no data communication
[21:35] <TJ-> kulitorum: If you are using the nvidia proprietary driver, you'll need to use the "Nvidia X Server Settings" application
[21:35] <javierf_> trism, thanks a lot! i'm in 12.10
[21:35] <kulitorum> That also only lists 640x480
[21:36] <kulitorum> Should xorg.conf have resolutions under the "monitor" section?
[21:36] <TJ-> kulitorum: Check "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" see if the driver is getting a valid EDID from the monitor?
[21:36] <kulitorum> Probably not
[21:36] <TJ-> kulitorum: In the "Screen" section - in the "Monitor" section you put the Horizontal/Vertical refresh frequencies
[21:36] <trism> javierf_: it seems the ones you need to replace are user-available user-away user-busy user-idle user-invisible and user-offline
[21:36] <kulitorum> it's hard in 640x480 :) - what should I search for?
[21:37] <kulitorum> TJ- Check, that's there. Looks resonable
[21:37] <trism> javierf_: as an aside the ones from Faenza-Dark are pretty nice
[21:37] <Num83rGuy> I have tried all methods that I can find to get my D-Link DWL 520 wireless card working.  All of them make the card disappear. It is automatically detected as an intersil  ISL3874 using the prism 2.5 / prism 3 drivers.  Everything seems to work but, it doesn't detect any signal and has no mac address.
[21:37] <TJ-> kulitorum: The frequencies allow the driver to check that that the monitor can accept any modes that are selected
[21:38] <javierf_> trism, but, where do I have to place icons with those manes?
[21:38] <ChrisWere> tj-:done that, no luck i'm afraid
[21:38] <kulitorum>  (WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-1
[21:38] <kulitorum> Can I force the resolution?
[21:38] <trism> javierf_: in your icon theme? it doesn't really matter where you put them because they are loaded by name, but if the icon theme is cached (say if you updated a system theme) you would probably need to update the cache
[21:39] <trism> javierf_: but usually you would just put them in your theme in ~/.icons/ThemeName
[21:39] <TJ-> ChrisWere: I'm out of ideas, sorry. Monitors are known to spontaneously corrupt their EDID internally, even in the EEPROM (firmware), but it's usually caused by an electrical 'spike' or lightening strike. Can you test that monitor on another PC?
[21:39] <kulitorum>     HorizSync       28.0 - 33.0
[21:39] <kulitorum>     VertRefresh     43.0 - 72.0
[21:39] <trism> javierf_: that is, as long as the directory is mentioned in index.theme
[21:39] <TJ-> ChrisWere: If it doesn't work on another PC you know its' the monitor - otherwise, you can focus on what's up with the video card!
[21:39] <javierf_> trism, aha, I see. I will see if it worked :)
[21:40] <ChrisWere> tj-:okay. thanks.
[21:40] <TJ-> ChrisWere: One last thing I've actually seen but not believed - someone managed to actually have the VGA connector's DATA pin break inside the housing --- I only found because I unplugged both ends of the VGA lead and pressed my thumb against the pins in the connector and the DATA pin fell out!
[21:41] <CrazyGir> how are you "supposed" to set the domainname on a ubuntu system? in hostname manpage it explicitly says not to put the full fqdn in /etc/hostname, yet all the forums say to do so
[21:42] <TJ-> kulitorum: There are webpages that can generate the correct modes for the Screen section of xorg.conf if you give them the frequency-range of the monitor.
[21:42] <javierf_> trism, please, how to update cache without logging out?
[21:42] <TJ-> kulitorum: But first, I'd suggest you search for that monitor's correct frequency range!
[21:42] <kulitorum> I just want one resolution, 1920x1080
[21:42] <internetN00b> ubuntu one is expensive :(
[21:43] <pepee> kulitorum, ask in #nvidia too
[21:43] <kulitorum> Hmmmm, It's not a monitor per-se - it's a panel that's used as a display in an airport terminal. So it don't have any real specifications :
[21:43] <kulitorum> :)
[21:43] <TJ-> kulitorum: I'd expect to be seeing something like "HorizSync 30.000-81.00"
[21:43] <doug1> u
[21:44] <kulitorum> and vert?
[21:44] <TJ-> kulitorum: With the range you reported, it would only be able to do 800x600 max I'd guess
[21:44] <kulitorum> ...expected, that is :)
[21:44] <doug1> linux gods... wtf is this running NOW and not in 5 min? echo RAN > /tmp/stat | at now + 5 min ?
[21:44] <pepee> kulitorum, tried removing xorg.conf? AFAIK it's not needed these days
[21:44] <kulitorum> trying... How do I restart X?
[21:44] <Riley> hi
[21:44] <TJ-> kulitorum: I'm not sure off top of my head, but as I said, there are web-pages that can generate this stuff for you. Give them frequencies, they give you modes. Give them modes (or max resolutions) and they'll give you frequencies
[21:44] <ChrisWere> TJ-: I've tried it on my windows install and it works fine
[21:44] <kulitorum> No, I did not
[21:44] <zykotick9> kulitorum: "sudo service lightdm restart" if you are using lightdm
[21:45] <kulitorum> brb :)
[21:45] <diverdude> How can i see which ports are in use?
[21:45] <Guest28257> I need some help
[21:45] <deadmund> !ask
[21:46] <doug1> not patience?
[21:46] <Guest28257> how do I install a downloaded driver
[21:46] <TJ-> ChrisWere: That's good news then! OK, last physical idea (and again, I've seen this!). If it's a PC (not a laptop/notebook) power it down, remove the cover, and physically re-seat the graphics card into its slot (undoing the retaining screw if necessary). I've known minute vibration to lift the front edge of a video card sufficiently to make some data lines intermittent.
[21:46] <javierf_> trism, unfortunatelly, it didn't work. Now I don't see the old not wanted icon, but forbidden icons, what I believe that means that there is some kind of conflict there
[21:46] <trism> javierf_: where did you put the icons?
[21:47] <zykotick9> trism: technically, supporting javierf_'s 12.10 install is OT here... just sayin' ;)
[21:47] <trism> zykotick9: indeed good point
[21:48] <trism> javierf_: can you hop over to #ubuntu+1? we can continue there
[21:48] <internetN00b> is it possible to set ubuntu to open all windows in the center of my screen?
[21:48] <javierf_> trism, tzykotick9, sorry, my fault there
[21:48] <eutheria> is it possible to have gtk style tabs in thunderbird again, these swoopy style ones look out of place
[21:48] <ChrisWere> TJ-: I'll try that, jeez these errors do not do my depression any good.
[21:52] <kulitorum> TJ- It works now. Changing  HorizSync to 30.000-81.00 and everything works as expected. Thanks :)
[21:52] <TJ-> Nice one kulitorum !
[21:52] <kulitorum> Later guys, thanks again
[21:53] <lupo> list
[21:55] <kulitorum> hehe, I'm back with another one... when I reboot, I don't have permissions to write to /dev/ttyUSB0 How do I permanently get permission to do so?
[21:55] <kulitorum> 3D printer connected there
[21:56] <Num83rGuy> I have tried all methods that I can find to get my D-Link DWL 520 wireless card working.  All of them make the card disappear. It is automatically detected as an intersil  ISL3874 using the prism 2.5 / prism 3 drivers.  Everything seems to work but, it doesn't detect any signal and has no mac address.
[21:56] <blackshirt> kulitorum, what do you want ?
[21:56] <zykotick9> kulitorum: you'll need to adjust udev rules.  don't ask me how, i have no idea.  good luck.
[21:57] <kulitorum> to be able to write to /dev/ttyusb0 without having to sudo chmod 777 /dev/ttyUSB0 after reboot
[21:58] <blackshirt> kulitorum, i mean, what are you trying to configure? Do you have some little programming ?
[21:58] <TJ-> kulitorum: What group owns that device node ("ls -l /dev/ttyUSB0") ?
[21:59] <TJ-> kulitorum: Usually, you'd add the user that needs to access the USB serial port to the group that owns the device node
[21:59] <TJ-> kulitorum: Often it's the "dialup" group
[21:59] <kulitorum> crwxrwxrwx 1 root dialout
[21:59] <TJ-> kulitorum: sorry, "dialout" group
[22:00] <kulitorum> yeap
[22:00] <kulitorum> How do I add me to that group?
[22:00] <TJ-> haha, yeah. Check if your user is part of that group: "groups"
[22:00] <kulitorum> nope
[22:00] <kulitorum> blackshirt: my 3d printer
[22:00] <TJ-> kulitorum: "sudo adduser $USER dailout" ... you'll need to log-out and log-in for the new group to take effect though
[22:01] <TJ-> kulitorum: oops, typo! "sudo adduser $USER dialout" !!
[22:01] <kulitorum> yeah, that's what I typed :)
[22:01]  * TJ- blushes
[22:01] <kulitorum> Thanks )
[22:01] <kulitorum> again
[22:02] <kulitorum> I'm now a member, so I guess on next reboot, it'll work
[22:02] <kulitorum> Good stuff, thanks :)
[22:02] <doug1> linux gods... wtf is this running NOW and not in 5 min? echo RAN > /tmp/stat | at now + 5 min ?
[22:05] <ChrisWere> tj-: No luck with phisically re-seating the card
[22:06] <Num83rGuy> I have tried all methods that I can find to get my D-Link DWL 520 wireless card working.  All of them make the card disappear. It is automatically detected as an intersil  ISL3874 using the prism 2.5 / prism 3 drivers.  Everything seems to work but, it doesn't detect any signal and has no mac address.
[22:06] <TJ-> ChrisWere: The Windows test you did - was it on a different PC?
[22:06] <ChrisWere> no same pc
[22:07] <TJ-> ChrisWere: So, same VGA cable and graphics card
[22:07] <ChrisWere> TJ-: evrything's the same, and it works in windows
[22:07] <TJ-> ChrisWere: That tells us its a software issue for sure then! I didn't expect that, with it not reading the EDID. I'm wondering about some subtle corruption to the operating system, possibly the nvidia driver
[22:08] <ChrisWere> TJ-: It's weird that people here slag windows off so much, but for me it's had a lot fewer bugs than any linux distro
[22:09] <monopole>  /ignore -channels #mwsf * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[22:09] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Have you tried reinstalling the nvidia driver? It might be something has got corrupted. "sudo apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-current-updates" ( or if you're not using -updates, then "sudo apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-current")
[22:09] <ChrisWere> TJ:- I've tried different versions of the Nvidia driver as well as reinstalling
[22:10] <ChrisWere> TJ-: I down graded and when tht didn't work I upgraded again
[22:10] <TJ-> ChrisWere: It very much depends on the hardware, and how much information the manufacturer provides about their hardware. Nvidia are one of several (like Atheros and Realtek) that don't, and that means Linux can't work as well as it should on that hardware.
[22:10] <Num83rGuy> ChrisWere: I have had the opposite experience, Linux being more stable than Windows. i use both and I will say that both have strong and weak points.
[22:11] <Dr_willis__> definatly hae linux more stable then windows.. had to reinstall windows a few mo back to fix a '.net' problem... ;(  scary
[22:11] <TJ-> ChrisWere: When you reinstalled the nvidia driver, did you also at that time try using the open-source nouveau driver whilst the nvidia driver was uninstalled?
[22:11] <ChrisWere> TJ-: I didn't actually, is the open-source nvidia driver any good?
[22:12] <Kylo> honestly, my biggest gripe is Netflix. I use linux for everything sans netflix, which i just VM into via and old XP
[22:12] <TJ-> ChrisWere: I'm thinking that a comparison of what the nouveau driver sees against what the nvidia driver is now seeing, may be useful to us
[22:12] <Dr_willis__> ChrisWere,  depends on your chipset. Works decently well for most ussage. 3d may not be as good.
[22:12] <Dr_willis__> Kylo,  :) i got a nice spare hdmi monitor for netflix with my boxee box. ;) or a roku
[22:13] <TJ-> ChrisWere: It has limited support for 3D acceleration depending on chipset - but the point is not to use it permanently, but use it to test this issue and see if it can read the EDID from the monitor when the nvidia driver can't
[22:13] <Kylo> i saw great results with my nvidia card, except it hated the nouveau driver, but disabling it and updating drivers fixed that
[22:13] <Kylo> yeah. i'm probably going to go roku to keep it in the family
[22:13] <ChrisWere> TJ-: Yeah they arn't raving about the nouveau drivers for nvidias
[22:13] <TJ-> ChrisWere: If nouveau were to read the EDID, then that'd would tell us that the nvidia driver is at fault here
[22:14] <TJ-> ChrisWere: That's down to Nvidia not publishing the information required, nor helping with the driver! Can't blame the Linux / Xorg developers for that
[22:15] <Kylo> I was under the impression that since you have to make drivers for Macs, which is somewhat a linux machine, why wouldn't you make the same drivers available for linux
[22:15] <gordonjcp> Kylo: o_O
[22:15] <bekks> Mac is not Linux at all.
[22:16] <gordonjcp> what have Macs got to do with Linux?
[22:16] <Kylo> well, make runs on bsd
[22:16] <gordonjcp> apart from, you can run Linux on some Macs
[22:16] <bekks> gordonjcp: The beautiful case :)
[22:16] <Kylo> mac*
[22:16] <gordonjcp> bekks: :-)
[22:16] <gordonjcp> Kylo: BSD isn't Linux
[22:16] <bekks> Kylo: And BSD is no Linux either.
[22:16] <gordonjcp> Kylo: not even remotely similar
[22:16] <Kylo> BSD is an offshoot of unix
[22:16] <Kylo> linux is based upon unix
[22:16] <bekks> Kylo: Erm, no :)
[22:16] <TJ-> Kylo: Wrong.
[22:16] <gordonjcp> Kylo: not really, no
[22:16] <Kylo> please explain
[22:16] <gordonjcp> Kylo: Linux and BSD share a common ancestor in Unix, kind of
[22:17] <TJ-> Kylo: Linux implements POSIX specifications, and some aspects of the SUS
[22:17] <gordonjcp> Kylo: but if anything Linux is based on Minix, not Unix
[22:17] <gordonjcp> and after a long and protracted legal case, it turns out it's not even based on Minix
[22:17] <TJ-> gordonjcp: Don't let Linux hear you say that :p
[22:17] <gordonjcp> it just happens to look the same
[22:17] <TJ-> oops, Linus
[22:17] <gordonjcp> TJ-: meh
[22:17] <ChrisWere> TJ-: Should I trying a reinstall?
[22:18] <gordonjcp> TJ-: Andy's cool with it
[22:18] <Kylo> I thought that Linus watched Unix and rewrote an OS based upon the model of Unix
[22:18] <axisys> did I just get a old battery? I ordered a new battery and IT guy a week later handed me over a battery all packaged.. for my hp 6730b
[22:18] <axisys> Battery 0: design capacity 5600 mAh, last full capacity 5269 mAh = 94%
[22:18] <TJ-> ChrisWere: That's a bit drastic! Uninstall the nvidia driver, reboot so the nouveau driver will be able to start, and then come back and let us see the "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" - lets find out if the EDID can be read and what it shows
[22:19] <axisys> why would a new battery say last full capacity 5269 mAh = 94%
[22:19] <axisys> it should be 100% if good and used .. at least
[22:19] <blackshirt> kylo,not just watched,
[22:19] <axisys> or do I need to update my acpi ?
[22:19] <ChrisWere> TJ-: that's a hassle in itself. Ubuntu has trouble booting without nvidia drivers
[22:20] <ChrisWere> fine I'll brb
[22:20] <TJ-> ChrisWere: hang on"!!
[22:20] <axisys> running ubuntu precise 64 bit
[22:20] <ChrisWere> TJ-: What?
[22:20] <TJ-> ChrisWere: If you have black screens at boot, then add "nomodeset" to the kernel's command-line at boot. Do you know how to do that at the GRUB boot meny?
[22:20] <ChrisWere> yes
[22:20] <ChrisWere> th-:but it deosn't always work
[22:21] <axisys> here is another new batter I bought for my other laptop
[22:21] <axisys> battery*
[22:21] <axisys> Battery 0: design capacity 4125 mAh, last full capacity 4125 mAh = 100%
[22:21] <TJ-> OK, use "nomodeset text" which will start in text-only mode ... then log-in at the text console. Then, start the GUI using "sudo service lightdm start"
[22:21] <rhollan> why might a kickstart file %post section not execute?
[22:22] <TJ-> axisys: Because battery chemistry can vary quite alot
[22:22] <ChrisWere> TJ-:This bug as been in ubuntu for more than a few releases now. windows never gave me this jip
[22:22] <Kylo> i had a problem booting up with my old nvidia too. just added nomodeset and booted. installed drivers and removed all traces of the nouveau drivers
[22:22] <TJ-> ChrisWere: It's down to the hardware - if the developers aren't provided with the chipset data they can't do anything unless they have one of those devices and want to spend several weeks reverse-engineering what it does
[22:24] <ChrisWere> tj-: yea but it's ubuntu people who put that xsplash int hat makes it hang. Considering ubuntu is supposed to have this linux for all mentality, I chalk that down to 50/50 blame
[22:24] <Dr_willis__> theres another grub option to disable the nouveau driver spefifically also.
[22:24] <Kylo> Dr_willis__: happen to know it?
[22:24] <Dr_willis__> Kylo,  nope. I dont even need touse Nomodeset any more. ;)
[22:24] <Kylo> personally, i run radeons now but it would be handy info
[22:24] <lukecarrier> Anyone else here use Amazon MP3 and want to take sharp objects to the braindead morons there responsible for Cloud Player?
[22:25] <zykotick9> Dr_willis__: just installing nvidia-propritary is "suppose" to blacklist nouveau automagically
[22:25] <rhlee> when compiling a new kernel using "debian/rules" for ubuntu, how do I suffix a name say "testpatch" or something?
[22:25] <Dr_willis__> zykotick9,  yep. seen a few times where that disabel noveau option was needed for an install.
[22:25] <Roey> hi
[22:27] <n-iCe> when is the new release date
[22:27] <zykotick9> !schedule | n-iCe
[22:27] <n-iCe> October 18th
[22:28] <n-iCe> Are you guys excited?
[22:28] <compdoc> 12.10?
[22:28] <Dr_willis__> Kylo,   it may be -->   add nouveau.modeset=0 after quiet splash
[22:28] <lukecarrier> n-iCe, I have no idea what I'd do with my life if another release weren't here to screw up my graphics drivers and drive me insane with annoying apport-gtk failspam! :D
[22:29] <Dr_willis__> n-iCe,  i tend to update the day befor release... then avoid the total chaos of this channel for the 2 weeks following release. ;)
[22:29] <calrogman> n-iCe: it's Persons Day in Canada! who wouldn't be excited?!
[22:29] <lukecarrier> n-iCe, I don't know, my work, maybe
[22:29] <thiago_net> Alguem do brasil aí?
[22:29] <Kylo> most of my boxes are still in Lucid
[22:30] <n-iCe> hehe
[22:30] <lukecarrier> n-iCe, and that's even beginning with the plethora of usability failures they'll have added to their beautiful desktop environment
[22:30] <Kylo> Dr_willis__: I'll try it next boot and see what it says
[22:30] <lukecarrier> n-iCe, like free adverts from Amazon!!! The creepy online retailer who wants to eat my future babies!
[22:31] <Kylo> I love amazon! HDMI cables for $2.00... Best buy: $65
[22:31] <lukecarrier> Kylo, I'd love them had I not spent 3 weeks now attempting to get an issue with their MP3 service and Cloud Player resolved
[22:31] <axisys> TJ-: why would last capacity be lower than 100% on a new battery just purchased
[22:32] <Kylo> luke, i had a problem with streaming once and theygave me 20 bucks free to spend on content... it was a hassle but it kind of paid off
[22:32] <smw_> Kylo, I want them to stop charging sales tax like they used to
[22:32] <axisys> it should be either 100% to its design capacity or 0% since never used
[22:32] <Kylo> axisys, what's the nmh on them?
[22:32] <ChrisWere> tj-:okay I'be uninstalled and booted up
[22:32] <lukecarrier> Kylo, pity they didn't offer me anything for passing my around their various incompetent engineers as if I was a frigging book
[22:32] <Kylo> luke... complain
[22:32] <rhollan> I HATE kickstart: my %post script just doesn't get run at all
[22:33] <Num83rGuy> I have tried all methods that I can find to get my D-Link DWL 520 wireless card working.  All of them make the card disappear. It is automatically detected as an intersil  ISL3874 using the prism 2.5 / prism 3 drivers.  Everything seems to work but, it doesn't detect any signal and has no mac address.
[22:33] <lukecarrier> Kylo, lmfao, like a company like that gives a dime what I think of them
[22:33] <lukecarrier> I sure as hell won't be replacing my Kindle when it gives out
[22:34] <l33tdesigner> e.org
[22:34] <Kylo> luke, i went to get an oil change and the company said i needed "This" so i said, ok... a week later my car broke down. i take it back and they say, you never needed "this"... i went on twitter.. i had my money back in my hands and all the repairs done for free in 2 day
[22:34] <axisys> Kylo: what's nmh?
[22:34] <axisys> i only have mAh
[22:34] <axisys> and percentage
[22:34] <Kylo> that's what i mean
[22:34] <axisys> Battery 0: design capacity 5600 mAh, last full capacity 5269 mAh = 94%
[22:34] <Kylo> mAh
[22:35] <axisys> but on my other (smaller) laptop with new battery
[22:35] <axisys> Battery 0: design capacity 4125 mAh, last full capacity 4125 mAh = 100%
[22:35] <Kylo> axisys sounds like a bad charge
[22:35] <lukecarrier> Kylo, somehow I remain unconvinced
[22:35] <lukecarrier> Thanks, though
[22:35] <ChrisWere> tj-: what do i need to send you?
[22:35] <Kylo> luke. post on twitter. they have social media scavangers that will contact you and try to get you to stop posting negative things
[22:36] <axisys> Kylo: IT just gave me the big battery saying it is new.. doubt it
[22:36] <Kylo> axisys... brand new batteries have to be fully charged first prior to use
[22:36] <axisys> Kylo: are you might be suggesting my laptop charger is bad
[22:36] <Kylo> should say that in the package
[22:36] <TJ-> ChrisWere: sorry, was a way. "/var/log/xorg.0.log"
[22:37] <Num83rGuy> axisys: Most batteries are not charged to full capacity for shipping because the "top" of the charge will dissipate rather quickly anyway and for most battery tech holding a 100% charge for extended periods can be harmful to the life of the battery.
[22:37] <ChrisWere> tj-: that file is blank
[22:37] <axisys> Kylo: it is 94% charged.. so either someone being nice and charged it all the before packaging it.. or it is a used battery and cant reach to its capacity cause it is already aged
[22:37] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Oh me and my typos!!
[22:38] <TJ-> ChrisWere: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[22:38] <Kylo> axisys: read what num83rguy said
[22:39] <axisys> Num83rGuy, Kylo : ok i will let it charge few hours.. but silly to charge it 94% as well before shipping to customer..
[22:39] <ChrisWere> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1275838/
[22:39] <ChrisWere> tj-: okay http://paste.ubuntu.com/1275838/
[22:39] <axisys> actually i take it back.. it was not charged much .. only 6%.. but last full capacity still troubling
[22:40] <axisys> Battery 0: Charging, 6%, 01:49:32 until charged
[22:40] <axisys> Battery 0: design capacity 5600 mAh, last full capacity 5269 mAh = 94%
[22:40] <axisys> so it is a used battery and it is already aged
[22:40] <bekks> axisys: Nope.
[22:40] <bekks> axisys: It was just not fully charged for shipping. Despite you like that or not.
[22:40] <jimmers> Hey guys, I attempted to run an update becuase I realized I hadn't in a while.  I have 312 updates pending, and then I get an error that tells me to use the terminal to do apt-get install -f .... when running that I get the following error.  any thoughts on how to proceed? admin@Earth:~$ sudo apt-get install -f [sudo] password for admin:  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done
[22:41] <jimmers> oops, paste didn't work properly
[22:41] <jimmers> http://fpaste.org/wBiy/
[22:41] <axisys> bekks: which number are you referring? 6% or 94% ?
[22:41] <jimmers> sorry about that...
[22:41] <Num83rGuy> axisys: They are meant to be on a cycle of charge / discharge.  Look up battery care for the type of battery you have be it NmH or Li-Po or other. The kind should be printed on the battery casing. For example if you have a Li-ion search Li-ion battery care and charging.
[22:42] <bekks> axisys: I was referring to your original problem with a not fully charged battery.
[22:42] <axisys> bekks: "last full capacity 5269 mAh = 94%" this means I werent succefully charged to 100% of design capacity.. if I am reading it correctly
[22:43] <arooni-mobile> how do i set the media keys on my t420 ubuntu 12.04 laptop set to clementines shortcuts??
[22:43] <questionnaire> hi
[22:43] <axisys> Num83rGuy: ok
[22:43] <TJ-> ChrisWere: It'll take me a few minutes to absorb the log, but I will be back to you
[22:43] <blackshirt> hi
[22:43] <bekks> axisys: Because it was not fully charged to 100% for shipping. As you've been already told. :)
[22:43] <jimmers> Hey guys, I attempted to run an update becuase I realized I hadn't in a while.  I have 312 updates pending, and then I get an error that tells me to use the terminal to do apt-get install -f .... when running that I get the following error.  any thoughts on how to proceed? http://fpaste.org/wBiy/
[22:43] <axisys> bekks: no
[22:44] <axisys> bekks: Battery 0: Charging, 6%, 01:49:32 until charged
[22:44] <axisys> it is only charged 6% before shipping
[22:44] <axisys> 94% does not talk about how much charged.. it is talking about something else
[22:45] <axisys> one is how much charged before shipped and the other one how much it can be charged
[22:45] <bekks> axisys: And it tells you that it was just charged to 94% of what it could have been charged.
[22:45] <slackguru> Is it possible for a 32 bit kernel to execute 64 bit binaries under any circumstance?
[22:46] <bekks> axisys: Thats exactly what you've been told.
[22:46] <bekks> slackguru: No.
[22:46] <axisys> bekks: we will see.. i am letting it charged.. lets hope that is the case.. otherwise i have a old battery
[22:46] <Num83rGuy> axisys: Some types of batterys need a mostly charged state for long storage, some need a barely charged state.  If the battery was mostly charged for storage/shipping and then sat for a while that charge will slowly dissipate.
[22:46] <jagginess> slackguru, not really.. but if you have a 64-bit physical processor.-- and you're running a 64-bit VM Os on a 32-bit operating system, then the 64-bit will run
[22:46] <slackguru> Okay bekks another question...
[22:47] <pepee> jimmers, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall  grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common
[22:47] <slackguru> I have code and it appears the flags in the code are dependent on being compiled with a 64 bit cross compiler...
[22:48] <Num83rGuy> axisys: The temperature the battery was stored in will also affect how fast that charge dissipation will take as well.
[22:48] <slackguru> can that code be parsed properly to be compiled by a 32 bit cross compiler of the same version?
[22:48] <bekks> slackguru: Depends on the code and the compiler.
[22:48] <rlw980> I have a problem, how to a put a Android OS back onto my smartphone?
[22:48] <jagginess> slackguru, what bekks said
[22:48] <ChrisWere> tj-:have you managed to have a look at it yet?
[22:49] <slackguru> bekks, can you give me an example?
[22:49] <slackguru> lol thanks jagginess
[22:49] <slackguru> Here
[22:49] <Num83rGuy> axisys: If the warehouse got hot for a few days or a week it could have sapped the charge much faster so that it was mostly discharged by the time you got it.
[22:49] <slackguru> I'll spit it out...
[22:49] <TJ-> ChrisWere: I'm comparing this log to the old one, and researching some issues to understand it better
[22:49] <pepee> rlw980, ask in #android
[22:50] <rlw980> pepee: I have, that's all i'm getting is: Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[22:51] <bekks> rlw980: Then you have to register your nick before being able to join,
[22:51] <jagginess> rlw980, google freenode irc, or ask #freenode on how to register :/
[22:51] <pepee> rlw980, register your nick. also try ##android
[22:51] <pepee> /msg nickserv help register
[22:51] <rlw980> bekks: How do I register
[22:51] <rlw980> jagginess: How/
[22:51] <jimmers> Hey guys, I attempted to run an update becuase I realized I hadn't in a while.  I have 312 updates pending, and then I get an error that tells me to use the terminal to do apt-get install -f .... when running that I get the following error.  any thoughts on how to proceed? http://fpaste.org/wBiy/
[22:51] <jagginess> rlw980, join #freenode.
[22:51] <jagginess> rlw980, join #freenode.
[22:52] <jagginess> rlw980, join #freenode.
[22:52] <FloodBot1> jagginess: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:52] <slackguru> Ubuntu 12.04.1 on an older PC single core 3 Ghz CPU true i686.... The gcc binaries included in the Android git hub with it's source code are ELF Binaries of the 64 bit variety and can not be executed on my machine but when I remove them and link into the SAME version gcc, libtool, libexec and the likes but ELF 32 bit I get errors galore because certain flags in the code are intended ONLY for the 64 bit...
[22:52] <zykotick9> jagginess: fyi there is a !register factoid
[22:52] <bekks> rlw980: < pepee> /msg nickserv help register
[22:52] <rlw980> bekks: Thanks =D!
[22:52] <slackguru> I feel the overwhelming need to prove Google wrong that jellybean CAN be compiled on a 32 bit machine, can someone help?
[22:53] <bekks> slackguru: Then your question is answered and you have a good example for non portable code :)
[22:53] <Num83rGuy> axisys: It's not necessarily a bad sign that it was nearly dead. If it doesn't hold a charge or depletes (goes dead) too quickly then you may have a bad battery. Look at the %, if it drops more than 1 or 2% in the next week  I would talk to the seller about a possible replacement.
[22:53] <rlw980> REGISTER <rlw980123@@><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:53] <bekks> OUCH
[22:53] <slackguru> Why can't the code be parsed and given equivalent instructions by the 32 bit compiler?
[22:53] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Can you pastebin "/var/log/kern.log" please? The new log shows that nouveau can't drive the GP116 aka NVCF aka GTX 550Ti, so the default system VESA VGA driver has loaded. VESA can't read the EDID either, so something is pretty bad on the hardware side somehow.
[22:53] <bekks> slackguru: Ask the author of the code.
[22:54] <slackguru> How can ARM, which is 32 bit and a little os which is 32 bit REQUIRE a 64 bit compiler?
[22:54] <bekks> slackguru: Ask the author of the code...
[22:54] <slackguru> right on bekks
[22:54] <slackguru> thanks anyway
[22:54] <jimmers> anyone able to help me sort out errors with an update?
[22:54] <slackguru> anyone else feels like taking this on, just PM me.
[22:55] <ElixirVitae> I installed a program to change launcher options of the programs, like adding an option to firefox to open with a profile select screen. But, for the life of mine I can't remember the program to reinstall, anyone have any idea what it might be?
[22:55] <jagginess> slackguru, there are cross-compilers. You don't need to be on a 32-bit system to "compile" code for non 32-bit architectures.. but you'll run the compiled code on those non-32bit architectures
[22:55] <jagginess> slackguru, or you don't need to be on 64-bit to compile 64-bit.
[22:55] <kbrosnan> ElixirVitae: alcarte
[22:56] <kbrosnan> assuming it still works
[22:56] <slackguru> jagginess, I know, I cross compile all the time.
[22:56] <harryrf> I'm trying to do cd /home/downloads/ but for some reason it's not working, any ideas?
[22:56] <harryrf> using 12.04.1
[22:56] <jagginess> harryrf, try cd /home/<USERNAME>
[22:56] <jagginess> lol
[22:56] <slackguru> I was told version 4.0 of Android couldn't be done on a 32 bit system but I made it happen
[22:57] <ElixirVitae> Oh, thanks kbrosnan, that was it
[22:57] <ChrisWere> tj-: hold on a sec my browser keeps hangnig
[22:57] <jagginess> slackguru, we have no idea (please see #android)
[22:57] <Num83rGuy> harryrf: Try cd ~/downloads
[22:57] <harryrf> ah, been too long since I've used linux. Thanks
[22:57] <slackguru> they're the ones who won't support 32 bit systems
[22:57] <ElixirVitae> It's name is listed as main menu in software center, it might be the reason for not being able to remember...
[22:57] <jimmers> Hey guys, I attempted to run an update with 312 updates pending, and I get an error that tells me to use the terminal to do apt-get install -f .... when running that I get the following error.  any thoughts on how to proceed? http://fpaste.org/wBiy/
[22:58] <jagginess> harryrf, linux is case-sensitive, you can also do -> cd ~/D<tab><tab> or cd ~/d<tab><tab> to do autocompleteion
[22:58] <slackguru> I'll find my solution elsewhere, I've never found the Ubuntu community to be very helpful when it comes to "making things possible" on Ubuntu
[22:59] <bekks> slackguru: Things are possible, but you have problem with some distinct code not even shipped with Ubuntu.
[22:59] <harryrf> thanks guys
[22:59] <slackguru> Like I said jagg, thanks for trying, and I understand you don't know. Anyone who does know, please get with me.... I am simply overlooking something and I know it... some help would be much appreciated.
[22:59] <elixey> is there a special setting for writing iso files to dvds?
[22:59] <slackguru> My problem is with code that does ship with ubuntu
[22:59] <jimmers> If anyone has a second to help me get this computer updated, I would appreciate it... trying to get home for the night and can't sort out these errors...
[23:00] <TJ-> slackguru: It's so that the compiler can take advantage of more than 3GB of RAM in its process address space.
[23:00] <bekks> slackguru: The jellybean code is not shipped with Ubuntu.
[23:00] <elixey> guys!
[23:00] <slackguru> my gcc doesn't accept the same flags as the same version of gcc except on different architectures...
[23:00] <hash__> Can i install lubuntu thru a terminal off of a cd, and if so does anyone know where i can find a list of steps
[23:00] <jagginess> jimmers, try it with aptitude :/ (aptitude update, aptitude upgrade)
[23:01] <slackguru> I haven't asked one question about jelly bean, I simply informed you of what I am programming....
[23:01] <ChrisWere> tj-: I don't know why it's taking so long to work and makes my browser hang
[23:01] <beandog> Is there a way to display *which* services are supposed to startup at boot
[23:01] <jimmers> jagginess: I get the same errors when I try to install aptitude
[23:01] <slackguru> Every question I have asked has been about the cross compiler, which again, doesn't ship with ubuntu but is in its repositories...
[23:01] <slackguru> no big deal... really
[23:02] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Big file! Cancel it... generate just the last 2000 lines and send them like this: "tail -n 2000 /var/log/kern.log > /tmp/kern.log" and upload "/tmp/kern.log"
[23:02] <slackguru> I will find the answer, I am just tired of having to look 94 billion days for some obscure code that isn't used very often, I mean come on, how often do you need a slow machine to actually do something fast?
[23:02] <ChrisWere> tj-: oh right because it exceeds 500kb.
[23:02] <slackguru> Seriously, it's all good...
[23:03] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Ouch... it ought to have been rotated by now! Maybe it contains lots of error reports that may give us a clue :)
[23:04] <ChrisWere> tj-: Well lots of errors would be in the traditional style of linux. It finished now http://paste.ubuntu.com/1275866/
[23:04] <pepee> jimmers, did you read what I posted?
[23:04] <jimmers> pepee didn't see it... scrolling up now
[23:04] <pepee> jimmers, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall  grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common
[23:05] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Well good news - must have just been a slow upload ... the file doesn't contain lots of errors, just the expected informational messages. I'll look through it
[23:05] <jimmers> pepee: same output
[23:06] <jagginess> jimmers, try to ->dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/lib/apt/archives/<that grub-common package .deb>
[23:06] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Just an aside, but you may want to check if there's a newer BIOS for that motherboard. "[Firmware Bug]: powernow-k8: Try again with latest BIOS."
[23:06] <ChrisWere> TJ-: My motherboard manual says not to upgrade bios unless it causes problems
[23:07] <jimmers> jagginess: that looks scary..... pepee, did you see what he put, and do you second it? :-p  forcing something with grub scares me a little
[23:07] <TJ-> ChrisWere: It's always worth keeping an eye on the updates they provide - reading the changelog/fixes they incorporate.
[23:07] <jagginess> jimmers, it'll only overwrite it's own config
[23:08] <jimmers> jagginess: very similar output
[23:08] <ChrisWere> tj-: why, if you don't mind me asking
[23:08] <jimmers> jagginess: the error it keeps giving me seems to be related to the filename, and I'm wondering where all these special characters are coming from in the output
[23:09] <jagginess> jimmers, "invoke-rc.d: initscript grub-common, action "stop" failed." says that ?
[23:09] <jimmers> jagginess: yes
[23:09] <TJ-> ChrisWere: OK, this last boot there's nothing interesting in the log *but* for the last boot there is. "[drm] nouveau 0000:05:00.0: DDC responded, but no EDID for VGA-1" ... "Raw EDID ..." followed by the EDID data-block which is all zeros, followed by "nouveau 0000:05:00.0: VGA-1: EDID block 0 invalid." and "[drm] nouveau 0000:05:00.0: DDC responded, but no EDID for VGA-1"
[23:09] <jimmers> jagginess: small difference... it says action "start" fialed, not stop
[23:09] <jimmers> jagginess: nevermind, it says both in different places
[23:09] <jagginess> jimmers, now do, apt-get -f install<enter>
[23:10] <ChrisWere> tj-: what does that mean exactly?
[23:10] <TJ-> ChrisWere: So, that indicates that both the nvidia driver and the nouveau driver can't get a valid EDID from the hardware. So, my gut instinct tells me that there's something either physical/hardware or firmware/BIOS causing this, but without having hands-on I can't do much more to figure it out
[23:10] <jimmers> jagginess: all the same
[23:11] <jagginess> jimmers, my best bet is to dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/lib/apt/archives/<>.deb for grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common, ..
[23:11] <TJ-> ChrisWere: EDID is the Extended Display Information Data and reports all the frequencies and  modes the monitor can support. Without it, the graphics driver can't know which frequencies and modes are safe to use, so it limits itself to a universally support base set
[23:11] <ChrisWere> TJ-: F*** could it be a new motherboard I got about a week ago?
[23:11] <ChrisWere> tj-: hold on, why does it work in windows if it's a hardware problem?
[23:11] <jagginess> jimmers, (then try apt-get -f install)
[23:11] <TJ-> ChrisWere: I don't know. That's why I said possibly firmware/BIOS.
[23:12] <TJ-> ChrisWere: New motherboard? Have you had Ubuntu booted with the new motherboard *and* the VGA monitor in correct resolution?
[23:12] <jagginess> ChrisWere, if you're using a kvm switch that can interfere
[23:12] <ChrisWere> TJ-: I'm still not 100% sure why it works in windows rather than linux. It's late here and I have a cold, so I'm a bit slow
[23:13] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Same here, it's a weird one, but my gut tells me from experience that these kind of EDID missing issues are some kind of hardware-related issue.
[23:14] <TJ-> ChrisWere: The way the EDID is obtained is to read it over the VGA DDC pin, which is presented in software via an i2c interface on the GPU
[23:14] <jimmers> jagginess: all the same
[23:14] <ChrisWere> TJ-: can you see why i understand linux to be less stable than windows now?
[23:14] <TJ-> ChrisWere: No
[23:15] <daftykins> if you're getting display config issues that doesn't undermine the OS' stability, it undermines the graphics driver's robustness
[23:15] <ChrisWere> TJ-: so my moniter works properly in windows, doesn't in linux, your advice is to check out the hardware, and your telling me you have no idea why I think linux is less stable than windoes?
[23:15] <jagginess> jimmers, does it say "update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/grub-common missing LSB information" ?
[23:16] <jimmers> jagginess: in a few places, yes
[23:16] <jimmers> jagginess: want me to re-paste, in case you see something different that I'm not?
[23:16] <TJ-> ChrisWere: Nothing to do with stability. If Nvidia didn't create a driver for Windows you'd have only 800x600 on Windows too. It's down to Nvdia providing useful drivers.
[23:16] <pepee> jimmers, ask in #grub too
[23:18] <jagginess> pepee, jimmers, #grub has nothing to do with it.. it's the package maintainers
[23:18] <jimmers> well I'll get yelled at then :-p
[23:18] <jagginess> jimmers, upstream authors usually dont do the packaging
[23:19] <jagginess> jimmers, is this a stable release?
[23:19] <jimmers> jagginess: 12.04
[23:20] <jagginess> jimmers, what does apt-cache policy grub-common say?
[23:20] <jimmers> jagginess: pepee someone in #grub said something about file corruption w/in grub and is drumming up something he thinks will help, too
[23:21] <jimmers> jagginess: http://fpaste.org/Qc2E/
[23:21] <ChrisWere> TJ-: so your just basically saying it's nvidia's fault ubuntu is not as stable. But my point is ubuntu's not as stable. I'm not blaming anyone
[23:21] <jagginess> jimmers, yeah.. it looks like a proper repository source for that package.. i hope you can fix it soon
[23:21] <daftykins> ChrisWere: i see where you're coming from, but 'stability' isn't the right word
[23:22] <jagginess> jimmers, sorry i couldn't fix it.. it's somewhere in the grub-common package script
[23:23] <jimmers> jagginess: the dude in #grub cleaned me all up it seems
[23:23] <ChrisWere> daftykins: Well i spend a lot more time trying for fix ubuntu than windows. The reason I'm stuck with Ubuntu is that ubuntu has a lot of features, but every error makes windows look better
[23:25] <user1> Hey guys, quick question about making bootable USB..
[23:25] <docvell> is there a way to de-install the entire KDE desktop (but NOT the games)?  I never use it, I just like using gnome desktop (if I want any of the games/utilities I can always re-install those separately I believe and still run them in gnome if need be)
[23:25] <user1> I have the ISO file on there and everything, but that doesn't mean its quite bootable yet, right?
[23:26] <meditatingfrog> user1: you need to use dd or usb-creator to make the boot disk
[23:26] <jagginess> user1, you can't take away kde-libs that kde-apps/games require.  To also phrase, you don't need the KDE desktop to run kde-apps
[23:26] <user1> Thanks
[23:27] <user1> Oh, that was docvell asking that
[23:27] <meditatingfrog> jagginess: i think you meant that for docvell
[23:27] <jagginess> user1, i don't know which would be bigger, kde-desktop exclusive harddrive space or the kde-libs that kdeapps/games require
[23:27] <jagginess> oh
[23:27] <meditatingfrog> lol no worries
[23:27] <jagginess> docvell, (sorry, everything i said above)
[23:28] <docvell> I'm just trying to clear up some space
[23:28] <jagginess> i'm just coming out of a deep cough..
[23:28]  * jagginess used up a whole tissue box
[23:28] <user1> Speaking of USB flash drives, does anyone have a sucessfull method to partition a PNY 4G Attache drive? I don't want Ubuntu to take up the whole thing, I want to be able to use part of it also..
[23:28] <meditatingfrog> dang, take care of yourself jagginess
[23:28] <user1> Just at least a  gig, meaning 3GB for Ubuntu bootable.. sound good?
[23:28] <ChrisWere> tj-: well thanks for your help, it's gone mid-night here in the UK, so I'm gonna check out the motherboard in the morning. Thanks again
[23:28] <bjrohan> I had my laptop and office computer able to see each other and transfer files via file manager, I have since reinstalled Ubuntu on both machines and can not figure out how to get them to do that again. On both machines I installed openSSH, as they are connected via router
[23:29] <kthxbye> ya
[23:29] <bjrohan> I can ping each one from the other
[23:29] <bekks> bjrohan: Then just use scp and/or setup a NFS share.
[23:29] <bjrohan> bekks what is scp?
[23:29] <user1> Anyone have Ubuntu on flash drive with partition?
[23:30] <bekks> bjrohan: The abreviation of "secure copy" - cp using ssh. :)
[23:30] <meditatingfrog> user1: i think usb-creator used to be able to do that
[23:30] <Rudd-XXX> X
[23:30] <user1> As in one partition is for bootable, and the other is for storage?
[23:30] <meditatingfrog> user1: i always would just create a folder for storage instead of partitioning
[23:30] <jagginess> user1, you're trying to place the ubuntu-installer on usb? (sounds like you want to "install" ubuntu on usb, you can do that too)
[23:31] <user1> yeah. I want to install Ubuntu onto USB
[23:31] <user1> Make it bootable from BIOS
[23:31] <meditatingfrog> ah, good idea
[23:31] <Dr_willis__> user1,  you can do a normal full install to usb flash.. done it allthe time
[23:31] <user1> Yeah I know
[23:31] <geirha> bjrohan: Open the filemanager, under its File menu, choose Connect to server, choose SSH as the connection type, fill in the rest
[23:31] <user1> But I want to use part of the flash drive for regular storage as well
[23:31] <Dr_willis__> user1,  'regular' windows partion youmean>
[23:31] <user1> One partition for Ubuntu Bootable, another for regular storage
[23:32] <jagginess> user1, i dont see why not.. i think if you choose 'something else' with the ubuntu installer then you get into manual partitioning mode  (i personally rather just use gparted live cd)
[23:32] <Dr_willis__> You can partition the usb however you want.. it dosent matter
[23:32] <bjrohan> thanks geirha
[23:32] <Dr_willis__> same as you would a normal hard drive
[23:32] <geirha> bjrohan: Remember to check the box to save a bookmark so you don't have to do it every time
[23:32] <user1> Not with Windows Disk Management
[23:32] <Dr_willis__> user1,  so use gparted or fdisk or whatever...
[23:33] <jagginess> user1, if you dont have a running linux system, maybe you'd like to use gparted live cd.. it's a very common tool :)
[23:33] <jagginess> user1, that live iso system is only meant to do partitioning.. it can also resize any ntfs partitions on your usb
[23:38] <[twisti]> its probably best to just google 'linux live usb stick' and download whatever program they link, because ive tried a few and they let you chose how much space to use
[23:42] <grimeton> http://2915190116
[23:44] <timg> hi
[23:44] <blackshirt> hi timg
[23:44] <blackshirt> hahaha
[23:44] <timg> so.. ubuntu 12.04 livecd will not boot when I have a geforce gt 620 card in
[23:44] <timg> what is the protocol for this?
[23:44] <timg> take the card out ?
[23:45] <compdoc> timg, does windows?
[23:45] <timg> compdoc: yea
[23:45] <timg> also, I had linux mint13 installed
[23:46] <timg> worked after I put the card in
[23:46] <timg> so maybe remove card, install ubuntu then reinsert card and try to install drivers
[23:46] <timg> such a hassle.
[23:48] <zykotick9> timg: did you try nomodeset?  see "/msg ubottu nomodeset" for details.
[23:49] <timg> zykotick9: live cd results in a blinky cursor
[23:49] <timg> I don't think I can alter the boot at that point
[23:49] <timg> can I?
[23:50] <zykotick9> timg: either A) tro nomodeset or B) are you sure your boot order is correct.
[23:50] <timg> well it comes up with the brown ubuntu boot screen and icon
[23:50] <zykotick9> timg: you can, read the nomodeset link/factoid for details
[23:50] <timg> so I think it's getting there
[23:50] <timg> cd just keeps spinning with a blinky cursor
[23:51] <timg> ok
[23:51] <timg> will try thanks
[23:51] <timg> I can't believe there are >1500 people in here and the channel isn't flooded
[23:51] <timg> I remember when it was <1000 and you could barely keep up
[23:53] <weeb1e> so uhh
[23:53] <weeb1e> a hacker got into one of my servers
[23:53] <weeb1e> what security measures should i take?
[23:53] <[twisti]> format it
[23:53] <andrewh192> hey, i currently have ubuntu 12.04 LTS and am going to install Windows 7 on the side....
[23:53] <weeb1e> i think its just a user account called "test"
[23:53] <andrewh192> weas wondering what i need to do to do this...
[23:54] <andrewh192> if anything special
[23:54] <weeb1e> I may have made the account with an easy password long ago
[23:54] <andrewh192> b4 i actually start the install cd...
[23:54] <[twisti]> for all you know he has replaced half your binaries with malicious shit
[23:54] <weeb1e> [twisti]: a test account won't have access to root
[23:54] <bjrohan> I am trying to use ssh on 2 computers linked via router. I can access my laptop from the desktop, however when i try to access the the desktop from the laptop I get an error message, some more verbose than others depending on which file browser I use
[23:54] <blackshirt> i dont think so
[23:54] <weeb1e> but theres an ssh connection from romania connected to it, spawning php processes
[23:54] <[twisti]> so you hope
[23:54] <weeb1e> :|
[23:54] <bjrohan> In nautilus I get Host Key Verification Failed
[23:54] <[twisti]> thank god php is so secure, i guess you have nothing to worry about
[23:55] <weeb1e> err, php is the least of my worries
[23:55] <weeb1e> they are spawning the php processes from an ssh connection
[23:55] <timg> [twisti]: what's that supposed to mean
[23:55] <jagginess> bjrohan, if your laptop is on a separated network and is behind a WAN IP box, then maybe the ISP is blocking the desktop to the laptop
[23:56] <[twisti]> timg: i was making a sarcastic comment towards the ridiculous amount of security issues relating to PHP
[23:57] <bjrohan> I don't follow jagginess. These 2 computers are connect via a LAN router. I have my modem connected to a wireless router, which both of my computers are connected to, one is <IP_ADDRESS> (desktop) and laptop is <IP_ADDRESS>.
[23:57] <blackshirt> weeb1e, i think maybe better you cut off your connection if you not sure
[23:57] <bjrohan> my desktop can access my laptop, but not vice versa
[23:57] <jagginess> bjrohan, is the laptop connecting wireless?
[23:57] <weeb1e> blackshirt: this box is in a data center, it is a server
[23:58] <weeb1e> not very happy about this, but I think they just found an easy password to a test account
[23:58] <weeb1e> test doesn't have sudo
[23:58] <bekks> weeb1e: disable the login for that account, kill the spawned processes.
[23:59] <bjrohan> jagginess yes it is, to the router, the desktop is connected to the router via cable
[23:59] <jagginess> bjrohan, to make it simpler next time :), so the two "arent" connected to a LAN router (that would imply they're both wired :)


[16:15] <Burgundavia_> popey: can you proof something for me?
[16:27]  * beuno points to a story he has in the queue --> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1197
[16:31] <Burgundavia> beuno: which one is that?
[16:31] <Burgundavia> I have a story to go live, shall I proof you story and make it go live ina bout 4 hours?
[16:34] <Burgundavia> beuno: ^
[16:45] <beuno> Burgundavia, what what what what?
[16:45] <beuno> why in 4 hours?
[16:54] <Burgundavia> beuno: because we want to space out our stories so they get read
[16:54] <Burgundavia> and the story I just posted was about how to participate in UDS
[16:54] <beuno> Burgundavia, ah, right, np
[16:55] <beuno> do you need me to check/approve your story, or do you have it covered?
[16:56] <Burgundavia> sure, http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1196
[16:56] <Burgundavia> I got it proofed by two people here, but one more set of eyes is always good
[16:57] <Burgundavia> 1197 has now been edited
[16:57] <Burgundavia> I added a screenshot and a download link
[16:58] <beuno> Burgundavia, cool
[16:58] <beuno> I shouldn't send it to the front page though, right?
[17:00] <Burgundavia> it already is
[17:00] <beuno> ah, then I've already read it  :p
[17:00] <Burgundavia> right
[17:02] <Burgundavia> the only thing I want to do with the mythbuntu story is break out that big chunk of text
[17:04] <beuno> sounds good
[17:07] <Daviey> beuno: did you get my email?
[17:07] <Daviey> (update)?
[17:08] <beuno> Daviey, ah, yes, just saw it
[17:08] <Daviey> good 'o
[17:08] <beuno> I'll bump it up to 20k, and congrats  :D
[17:08] <Daviey> :) thanks
[17:08] <beuno> Burgundavia, ^
[17:11] <beuno> Burgundavia, where can I edit the screenshot you added?
[17:11] <beuno> it's 250k+, so I'll assume it didn't get resized
[17:12] <Daviey> beuno Burgundavia: also can remove the "(excluding torrents)" thanks
[17:12] <beuno> Daviey, done
[17:13] <beuno> the story should be on the front page in < 4 hours
[17:13] <Daviey> woot. thanks
[17:46] <Burgundavia> Daviey: congrats on the fast work
[17:50] <Daviey> Burgundavia: I'll pass it on to the rest of the team.. thanks
[18:03] <Burgundavia> beuno: do you mind if I make you less happy and push out your article by another few hours to make room for another of mine?
[18:03] <Burgundavia> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1193
[18:12] <beuno> Burgundavia, I don't mind, it's Daviey's baby
[18:17] <Daviey> awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww :`(
[18:17] <Daviey> it's cool
[18:30] <Burgundavia> Daviey: it will go live today, I just want to space stuff out
[19:06]  * mdke pokes Burgundavia into his query window
[19:21] <Burgundavia> mdke: can you proof and make live an article for me?
[19:21] <Burgundavia> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1193
[19:31] <Burgundavia> beuno: ?
[19:32]  * beuno tries and not show he's jealous that he is option b) and goes check it out
[19:32] <Burgundavia> heh
[19:33] <Burgundavia> sorry about that
[19:33] <Burgundavia> after a week, we end up with a plethora of stories on a single day
[19:34] <beuno> Burgundavia, it's live
[19:34] <mdke> news is like buses
[19:37] <Burgundavia> you get none and then you get a lot
[19:39] <Burgundavia> remember to clear the date when you post a story live, to prevent it from showing up below the top item
[19:43] <beuno> Burgundavia, that is new?  I didn't know about that
[19:45] <Burgundavia> yes, as of the new fridge
[19:45] <Burgundavia> it is a nice feature, because you can backdate stuff
[19:46] <beuno> aaah, cool, so I should just leave it blank?
[19:47] <Burgundavia> yes, just blank it
[19:48] <beuno> understood
[20:25] <Burgundavia> hey Rinchen
[20:26] <Rinchen> hi Burgundavia


[00:05] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: reloged
[00:05] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: loging point didnt get a change
[00:06] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: everytime i relog/reboot, nvdia x servers rests to 1024x768 :'(
[00:32] <touchtouch> hi does ubuntu touch launch normal programs like gimp?
[00:32] <popey> nope
[00:32] <touchtouch> does it change the layout when docked to a monitor?
[00:33] <popey> current implementation doesn't support external displays
[00:35] <touchtouch> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyeFcldavTk
[00:35] <touchtouch> so this doesnt exist?
[00:35] <popey> That's not Ubuntu Touch
[00:35] <popey> That's Ubuntu for Android
[00:36] <touchtouch> does this exist?
[00:36] <popey> Sure, you just saw a video of it ☻
[00:37] <popey> Not currently available for download yet though.
[00:37] <touchtouch> hmm damn them :P
[00:37] <touchtouch> did they give any reason why its not avaible?
[00:38] <popey> Don't think so.
[00:39] <micah2> @touchtouch, my understanding is that Ubuntu Touch will eventually do the same kind of thing.
[00:40] <touchtouch> meh
[00:41] <touchtouch> can u think of any alternative to you use your phone as computer?
[00:43] <micah2> I think Motorola came out with a phone that had that capability, but it still only runs android
[00:43] <micah2> and I think that was a year or so ago and it didn't catch on
[00:45] <popey> The motorola atrix..
[00:46] <touchtouch> hmmm
[00:49] <touchtouch> but the development of touch is going slow isnt it
[00:49] <touchtouch> ive seen this 2 years ago
[00:49] <popey> We only announced Ubuntu Touch in January
[00:50] <popey> ~6 months ago
[00:50]  * popey wanders of to bed
[00:50] <touchtouch> the ubuntu for android
[00:50] <touchtouch> read about it in 2011
[01:03] <joubin> Has anyone attempted to load ubuntu touch onto a nexus 4 yet
[01:56] <RobertBColton> hey
[01:56] <RobertBColton> anybody here got this working on a Craig Electronics device that comes with android? :P
[02:03] <Kaz_> hello
[02:19] <dejello> Hello
[03:07] <houseofbean> I flashed  it on my Nexus 4 and it's beautiful!   Thank you to all the Ubuntu  Touch community.
[04:38] <annerajb> rsalveti: hello!
[04:40] <annerajb> Anybody know where this .so comes from? Vendor? Rootfs? bootstrap?
[04:51] <annerajb> Forgot the name of the so -_-    >>>> E/linker  ( 1546): ics/linker.c:1072| ERROR: Library 'libOpenVG.so' not found
[05:37] <canthelp> annerajb, did you figure it out
[05:37] <canthelp> i have it in a pakcage called libopenvg1-mesa
[05:38] <canthelp> its in /usr/lib somewher
[05:38] <canthelp> if that is any help
[07:06] <hemangpatel> Hi where is ? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/07/countdown-appears-on-ubuntu-website
[08:00] <fat_> i type this code in the terminal: "phablet-flash -b" and i get an error."Device detected as GT-I9100 Unsupported device, autodetect fails device". ITs samsung galaxy s2
[08:00] <fat_> its a supported devices
[08:18] <fat_> IS there afix for calls in samsung galaxy s2
[08:30] <fat_> anyone here
[08:37] <aspidites> how long does initial boot take after flashing ubuntu touch (for nexus 4/mako)?
[08:37] <aspidites> seem to be stuck on the google splash screen, even after reflashing
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> any news yet for legit ubuntu tablets commin out?
[08:56] <noskcaj> lotuspsychje, one australia based one, in october
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> noskcaj: you got an url on that?
[08:57] <noskcaj> one sec
[08:58] <noskcaj> http://www.intermatrix.com.au/linuxtablet/
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> tnx mate
[11:31] <fat_> i installed ubuntu touch, on galaxy s2, but my hardware buttons, like home, and back, arn't working.
[11:32] <fat_> what do i do
[13:50] <Guest5021> Acer Iconia B1 Is it possible to install ubuntu touch on this device?
[13:51] <Guest5021> anybody here?
[13:52] <Guest5021> hellllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[13:54] <Guest5021> hello
[13:54] <Guest5021> anybody here?
[13:56] <xqee> hello is it possible to install ubuntu on huawei mediapad 7 lite ?
[14:58] <michael_____> hello
[14:58] <michael_____> is ubuntu toch coming to the samsung galaxy s4?
[16:21] <annerajb> hello
[16:21] <annerajb> Is this section the one that explains how to build the rootfs .zip???? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting#Ubuntu_pieces
[16:38] <w-flo> annerajb, I think it explains how to build a single deb package (like the calculator app or qtubuntu-media).. Not sure how to build rootfs zip files, there is some code in https://code.launchpad.net/touch-preview-images
[16:38] <annerajb> thanks w-flo
[17:38] <asterismo> hi
[17:38] <asterismo> anyone knows if is there any email app with gnupg support?
[17:45] <asterismo> is there a list of available apps available for ubuntu touch?
[17:48] <asterismo> anyone?
[17:49] <w-flo> asterismo, not sure if there is an email app yet
[17:50] <w-flo> so probably no gpg yet, but encryption was heavily discussed on the mailing list recently, so..
[17:51] <w-flo> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/collection https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily those are probably most of the apps currently available (to the general public)
[18:12] <asterismo> w-flo, thanks. I was planning to flash my galaxy tab 2 p3113 with ubuntu touch since it seemes every thing is working thou
[18:12] <asterismo> but dunno if there is gonna be enough apps for everyday use
[18:13] <asterismo> can the SD card be encrypted in ubuntu touch? because in CyanogenMod it cannot be
[18:14] <asterismo> w-flo, and do u know if ubuntu touch users can be configured? or it is just a guest user only? like with preview content...
[18:18] <w-flo> asterismo, I think the sd card is not accessible at all with the current development state[citation needed], and afaik right now it's a single-user environment
[18:19] <w-flo> there's a lot of development going on, the OS has only very basic features right now
[19:30] <AskUbuntu> Trouble installing Ubuntu on Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 P3110 | http://askubuntu.com/q/322673
[20:50] <Chocanto> mhall119: Hey ! :D You still don't have news from tsdgeos ? :)
[21:08] <Bas> Hello, I am looking for tech support. I assume this is the place to find it? I am stuck and don't know what to do.
[21:09] <Bas> Normal boot gives me a black screen. With volume down I can get the bootloader. But recovery also gives me a black screen.
[21:09] <Bas> My phone is a LG nexus 4
[21:10] <Noskcaj> Bas, I no one answers, send a mail to the mailing list or try askubuntu. I sounds like your phone might be broken though
[21:12] <Bas> Thank you for the answer. Not the answer I want to hear, the broken bit especially.
[21:13] <tassadar_> as long as you can get to the bootloader, it can be fixed
[21:24] <Bas> tassadar, thank you very much for your answer. Posting my question on askubuntu. Installed Ubuntu Touch last week and it was a breeze.
[21:34] <timp> Bas: you could try to re-install
[21:34] <timp> Bas: perhaps Unity is not starting up correctly
[21:34] <timp> Bas: I think if you ask here tomorrow, there will be more people to help
[21:35] <timp> Bas: if you have the phone connected to an ubuntu PC/laptop via an USB cable, you can use adb to see if you can connect to it, even if the screen is black
[21:36] <Bas> timp, I dont know how. Because the [adb devices] does turn up empty in bootloader.  Thank you
[21:36] <timp> yes I meant with the normal boot
[21:36] <timp> perhaps the system boots, except for the graphical front-end.
[21:38] <Bas> Nope... No devices connected.
[21:39] <timp> you could update your packages, and then run phablet-flash -b to re-flash the device
[21:39] <timp> I guess there are smarter ways to try to fix it, but the experts on that are not here right nwo
[21:39] <timp> *now
[21:40] <timp> so my advice is to ask here tomorrow, I'm quite sure someone can help you
[22:08] <AskUbuntu> Ubuntu touch on Nexus 4 fails to boot | http://askubuntu.com/q/322728
[23:10] <AskUbuntu> ubuntu touch core apps | database version mismatch | http://askubuntu.com/q/322749


[02:18] <somedude> echo
[11:01] <mup> Bug #1498851 opened: [1.9.0 - alpha 1] Can't save power config <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1498851>
[11:01] <mup> Bug #1498854 opened: [1.9.0 - alpha 1] cannot select power details on node details <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1498854>
[12:40] <mup> Bug #1498899 opened: [1.9.0 - alpha1] Can't delete node <ui> <ux> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1498899>
[13:16] <mup> Bug #1498899 changed: [1.9.0 - alpha1] Can't delete node <ui> <ux> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1498899>
[13:22] <mup> Bug #1498899 opened: [1.9.0 - alpha1] Can't delete node <ui> <ux> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1498899>
[13:28] <mup> Bug #1498899 changed: [1.9.0 - alpha1] Can't delete node <ui> <ux> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1498899>
[13:31] <mup> Bug #1498899 opened: [1.9.0 - alpha1] Can't delete node <ui> <ux> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1498899>
[13:34] <mup> Bug #1498899 changed: [1.9.0 - alpha1] Can't delete node <ui> <ux> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1498899>
[13:37] <mup> Bug #1498899 opened: [1.9.0 - alpha1] Can't delete node <ui> <ux> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1498899>
[13:40] <mup> Bug #1498899 changed: [1.9.0 - alpha1] Can't delete node <ui> <ux> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1498899>
[14:24] <Guest45894> hi ... I have a MAAS cluster running 1.8.0 version, want to install OS on a physical server having a bunch of hard drives. I want control to install OS on a specific HDD
[14:24] <Guest45894> currently, MAAS installs OS randomly
[14:25] <Guest45894> any suggestions?
[14:26] <Guest45894> #join
[14:41] <Guest45894> I don't see anyone active on the list
[17:56] <bdx> hows it going everyone?
[17:57] <bdx> I have a concern about our production storage infrastructure that is deployed via maas/juju ....
[17:59] <bdx> I cannot seem to wrap my head around the process for replacing failed disks in a storage node deployed via MAAS...... is there anyone here who might have an idea on a best practice for disk failure/recovery without having to re-commission a node?
[18:02] <roaksoax> bdx: at the moment we don't support that without re-commissioning, but we are discussing such feature
[18:10] <roaksoax> bdx: although, you could always update the serial and such directly through the api
[18:28] <bdx> roaksoax: Is that what you do on large scale production deployments when a disk fails?
[18:29] <bdx> updating the serial directly only fixes 1/3 of the issue
[18:30] <bdx> good call on that....but it is no solution...just a heads up
[18:31] <roaksoax> bdx: as I said, It is just a work around not a solution
[18:31] <roaksoax> bdx: as we don't support that without re-commissioning
[18:34] <bdx> roaksoax: gotcha, thanks
[18:56] <mup> Bug #1499044 opened: [1.9.0 alpha2] Ready node has OS <ui> <ux> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1499044>
[19:11] <mup> Bug #1499047 opened: [1.9.0 alpha2] Node stuck in deployment <ui> <ux> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1499047>
[19:14] <mup> Bug #1499047 changed: [1.9.0 alpha2] Node stuck in deployment <ui> <ux> <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1499047>
[19:19] <JZTech101> Hi, so I have a MaaS controller in a VM. I am trying to get it to work with the other 2 VMs I have setup and prepared for Nodes. But PXE boot shows "No boot filename recieved". It should be noted. I have a host-only network specifically for the 2 nodes and the controller.  I removed eth0 (the host-only internet network) from the cluster controller, but that has made no difference.
[20:00] <JZTech101> pserv.log shows :
[20:00] <JZTech101> 2015-09-23 15:31:03-0400 [Uninitialized] Event-loop ondria:pid=2000 (<IP_ADDRESS>:48076): Connection was refused by other side: 111: Connection refused.
[20:00] <JZTech101> 2015-09-23 15:31:03-0400 [Uninitialized] Event-loop ondria:pid=2000 (<IP_ADDRESS>:48076): Connection was refused by other side: 111: Connection refused.
[20:00] <JZTech101>  and MaaS.log shows :
[20:00] <JZTech101> Sep 23 15:28:08 ondria maas.lease_upload_service: [INFO] Uploading 0 DHCP leases to region controller.
[20:00] <JZTech101> Sep 23 15:28:08 ondria maas.bootsources: [INFO] Updated boot sources cache.
[20:00] <JZTech101> Sep 23 15:28:08 ondria maas.import-images: [INFO] Started importing boot images.
[20:00] <JZTech101> Sep 23 15:28:08 ondria maas.bootresources: [INFO] Importing images from source: http://maas.ubuntu.com/images/ephemeral-v2/releases/
[20:01] <JZTech101> Sep 23 15:28:08 ondria maas.boot_image_download_service: [ERROR] Failed to download images: Unable to open http://<IP_ADDRESS>/images-stream/streams/v1/index.json. mirrors=[]
[20:01] <JZTech101> Sep 23 15:28:09 ondria maas.bootresources: [INFO] Finished importing of boot images from 1 source(s).
[20:01] <JZTech101> Sep 23 15:28:09 ondria maas.import-images: [INFO] Started importing boot images.
[20:01] <JZTech101> Sep 23 15:28:09 ondria maas.import-images: [INFO] Finished importing boot images, the region does not have any new images.
[20:01] <JZTech101> Sep 23 15:30:47 ondria maas.calls: [INFO] Starting task 'write_full_dns_config' with args: () {'zones': [<provisioningserver.dns.zoneconfig.DNSForwardZoneConfig object at 0x7fc2bbc0b7d0>, <provisioningserver.dns.zoneconfig.DNSReverseZoneConfig object at 0x7fc2bbc0b910>], 'callback': provisioningserver.tasks.rndc_command([u'reload'], False), 'upstream_dns': [u'<IP_ADDRESS>'], 'trusted_networks': u'<IP_ADDRESS>/24; <IP_ADDRESS>/24;'}
[20:01] <JZTech101> Sep 23 15:30:47 ondria maas.calls: [INFO] Starting task 'rndc_command' with args: ([u'reload'], False) {}
[20:01] <JZTech101> Sep 23 15:30:47 ondria maas.calls: [INFO] Finished task 'rndc_command' with args: ([u'reload'], False) {}
[20:01] <JZTech101> Sep 23 15:30:47 ondria maas.calls: [INFO] Finished task 'write_full_dns_config' with args: () {'zones': [<provisioningserver.dns.zoneconfig.DNSForwardZoneConfig object at 0x7fc2bbc0b7d0>, <provisioningserver.dns.zoneconfig.DNSReverseZoneConfig object at 0x7fc2bbc0b910>], 'callback': provisioningserver.tasks.rndc_command([u'reload'], False), 'upstream_dns': [u'<IP_ADDRESS>'], 'trusted_networks': u'<IP_ADDRESS>/24; <IP_ADDRESS>/24;'}
[20:01] <JZTech101> Sep 23 15:30:48 ondria maas: [WARNING] Failed to create Network when adding/editing cluster interface maas-eth1 with error [{'ip': [u'Network with this Ip already exists.'], 'name': [u'Network with this Name already exists.']}]. This is OK if it already exists.
[20:14] <mup> Bug #1499062 opened: Internal Server Error if 'Sync URL' Setting has a preseeding whitespace <MAAS:Confirmed> <MAAS 1.8:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1499062>
[20:24] <mwenning> JZTech101, click on clusters tab in maas gui, mine is called cluster master
[20:25] <JZTech101> mwenning, yes. Mine is called cluster master as well
[20:25] <mwenning> I've got 2 interfaces, under the manage column, one says dhcp and dns
[20:25] <mwenning> the other one is unmanaged
[20:26] <JZTech101> I only have one managed dhcp and dns. The other one that is managed by my router, I removed
[20:26] <JZTech101> Should I uh add it back?
[20:26] <JZTech101> removing it nor adding it has made a difference
[20:26] <mwenning> not yet ;-)
[20:27] <JZTech101> ok
[20:27] <mwenning> interface is eth0?
[20:27] <JZTech101> no eth1
[20:27] <JZTech101> eth0 is the one managed by router
[20:27] <mwenning> ok.  what is eth1 set up as in virt-manager
[20:28] <JZTech101> uh
[20:28] <JZTech101> what
[20:28] <mwenning> Not using virt-manager?
[20:28] <JZTech101> oh. I use vmware. Its a host-only network with no DHCP
[20:29] <mwenning> oh ok.
[20:29] <JZTech101> oh and I should mention, the controller is a VM on its own as well its Nodes. But that shouldn't make a difference afaik
[20:30] <JZTech101> (Controller + Nodes are side-by-side VMs)
[20:30] <mwenning> JZTech101, that's what I've got here using kvm/virt-manager
[20:30] <JZTech101> ok
[20:32] <mwenning> Maas-server is set up as a static address, <IP_ADDRESS>/22
[20:32] <mwenning> Nodes should be set up to pxe boot from the same network of course
[20:33] <mwenning> maas-server should access the outside world on the other network
[20:33] <JZTech101> uh. Static IP Address? I just uh thought that MaaS controller would handle configuring this new network adapter
[20:33] <JZTech101> :|
[20:34] <mwenning> what's the network addr for eth1 on Interfaces
[20:35] <mwenning> Interfaces section of Cluster Controller
[20:35] <JZTech101> <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[20:35] <JZTech101> http://vgy.me/iHK8gK That's a screenshot of the interface config
[20:39] <mwenning> And you are accessing the maas server gui from <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[20:40] <JZTech101> uh
[20:40] <JZTech101> no actually
[20:40] <JZTech101> I'm accessing it through eth0
[20:42] <JZTech101> mwenning, I have not gotten an IP from MaaS so I can't access that particular subnet. Actually the VM itself has no IP for that subnet
[20:42] <JZTech101> o.O
[20:42] <JZTech101> how to make MaaS properly assign IPs?
[20:43] <mwenning> ok, what I did was edit /etc/network/interfaces and add a static address for the internal maas network
[20:43] <mwenning> in youre case eth0
[20:43] <mwenning> oops eth1
[20:44] <JZTech101> mwenning, can you give me an example config so I don't mess it up?
[20:44] <mwenning> sure stby
[20:45] <mup> Bug #1499050 changed: [1.9.0 alpha2] can't access networks tab <ui> <ux> <MAAS:Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1499050>
[20:45] <JZTech101> Also, I changed the static IP field to <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:45] <JZTech101> And left the router field the same (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[20:47] <mwenning> auto eth0
[20:47] <mwenning> iface eth0 inet static
[20:47] <mwenning>     address <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:47] <mwenning>     broadcast <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:47] <mwenning>     netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:47] <mwenning> JZTech101, yeah that's the way mine's set up
[20:47] <JZTech101> ok
[20:49] <mwenning> Try that.  did you find the maas doc on setting the nodes to poweronoff using virsh?
[20:49] <JZTech101> o.o
[20:49] <JZTech101> why is the netmask 252.0?
[20:49] <JZTech101> I always set it 255.0
[20:51] <mwenning> maas 1.8 uses 2 sets of dhcp ranges, one for dynamic and another for static
[20:51] <mwenning> mine setup assigns 255 to each range
[20:52] <JZTech101> uh
[20:52] <JZTech101> wat? o.O
[20:52]  * JZTech101 is confused
[20:55]  * mwenning tries to take a screenshot of his maas server
[20:55] <JZTech101> mwenning, ok. So eth1 now has an IP on the VM. But the DHCP Server is still not functioning as my host has yet to have an IP from MaaS
[20:57] <mup> Bug #1499050 opened: [1.9.0 alpha2] can't access networks tab <ui> <ux> <MAAS:Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1499050>
[20:57] <mwenning> JZTech101, try that http://vgy.me/DrEMup
[21:00] <mup> Bug #1499050 changed: [1.9.0 alpha2] can't access networks tab <ui> <ux> <MAAS:Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1499050>
[21:01] <JZTech101> uh mwenning I see your main IP is 0.1. Well.. the thing is, the router hands out IPs in the 1.1.1.x range. So would using 252.0 conflict?
[21:04] <mwenning> JZTech101, in your case probably.  It's not important, this setup is for controlling big mass clusters, where we have 100's of nodes
[21:04] <mwenning> If you bring up another node on the internal maas network, can you ping the maas server?
[21:07] <JZTech101> mwenning, well its not a node. Its just another device. And no. it is not getting an IP from the MaaS server :(
[21:07] <JZTech101> so it cannot ping the MaaS server
[21:08] <JZTech101> Imma brb for dinner
[21:08] <mwenning> JZTech101, ok
[21:12] <mwenning> JZTech101, I'm gonna have to bail soon too.  Try this doc:  http://certification-static.canonical.com/docs/MAAS_Advanced_NUC_Installation_And_Configuration.pdf
[21:13] <mwenning> That's the way I set up mine.  It assumes real hw but it worked fine from the MAAS_server VM
[21:16] <mwenning> When you get that working you will have to set the nodes up to boot from virsh, see https://maas.ubuntu.com/docs/nodes.html
[21:54] <JZTech101> mwenning, still around?
[21:55] <mwenning> JZTech101, yup, can you reach that document?
[21:56] <JZTech101> mwenning, I can indeed. And the setup script, I'm not entirely sure how to get it seeing as I did a MAAS install direct from the Server CD
[21:56] <JZTech101> rather than on an existing install
[21:57] <JZTech101> but that might be what is lacking with the DHCP Server not working?
[21:58] <JZTech101> :O
[21:58] <JZTech101> mwenning, hmm.  I can't blame it. But Netboot seems to be working now
[21:58] <JZTech101> :D
[21:58] <JZTech101> hm
[21:58] <JZTech101> mass-enlisting node eh?
[21:58] <JZTech101> :o
[21:59] <mwenning> it's working now?
[21:59] <mwenning> rephrasing, it's pxebooting now?
[22:00] <JZTech101> it is pxebooting now :D
[22:00] <mwenning> |\o/
[22:01] <mwenning> Nodes go thru 3 phases, enlisting, commissioning, and deploying
[22:01] <mwenning> enlist they pxeboot and make themselves known to MAAS
[22:01] <mwenning> commission they will pxe boot again and collect system info
[22:02] <mwenning> deploy they will pxeboot, load an image on the disk, and reboot to the disk.
[22:03] <JZTech101> hm
[22:03] <JZTech101> how do I tell it to deploy the image?
[22:03] <mwenning> after enlist you will have to set up the virsh thing above, since maas assumes that it can control power to the node for commission and deploy
[22:03] <JZTech101> I only have one Ubuntu LTS
[22:03] <JZTech101> lol
[22:04] <mwenning> on the node page on the maas gui, the enlisting node should show up as "New"
[22:04] <JZTech101> uh
[22:04] <mwenning> then you click in there and edit the power settings
[22:04] <JZTech101> how do I setup virsh if the controller itself is a VM alongside the other VMs?
[22:05] <JZTech101> and how do I do that in VMWare
[22:10] <mwenning> hmm.  I googled 'maas virsh vmware' and 'maas vmware power type' and got some hits :-O
[22:11] <mwenning> Also you can be the power controller - hit commission and then manually turn on the vm
[22:11] <JZTech101> Yeah I know
[22:11] <JZTech101> thats actually what I'm doing right now
[22:11] <JZTech101> lol
[22:11] <mwenning> ok well that will work its just a PITA
[22:12]  * JZTech101 shrugs
[22:13] <JZTech101> the problem is, afaik vmware workstation does not support Wake-On-Lan
[22:13] <JZTech101> and none of the others will work because it is a VM alongside VMs
[22:13] <JZTech101> The host is not the controller
[22:13] <JZTech101> this is fun
[22:13] <JZTech101> it is deploying
[22:13] <JZTech101> :D
[22:14] <JZTech101> Thanks for your help mwenning :D
[22:14] <mwenning> JZTech101, np.  thanks for your patience :-)
[22:26] <JZTech101> hm
[22:27] <JZTech101> mwenning, is there anything special I need to do to get the ssh-keys working? Basically I added the wrong key After deploying the node. So I have redeploy the node or something?
[22:27] <JZTech101> (I've already changed it to the correct SSH Key
[22:29] <mwenning> This is for power control?
[22:29] <JZTech101> uh no.
[22:30] <JZTech101> I'm just trying ot access this new node
[22:30] <JZTech101> lol
[22:30]  * mwenning is still thinking virsh
[22:31] <catbus1> you will have to re-deploy so the new key gets set up on the deployed node after the install.
[22:31] <mwenning> I would expect so.   I think the key is passed during deployment so you can ssh into the node without a password
[22:31] <mwenning> what catbus1 said ;-)
[22:31] <JZTech101> :(
[22:31] <JZTech101> ok
[22:31] <JZTech101> was hoping it would automatically update
[22:32] <mwenning> that's the cool thing about vm's it doesn't take 20 minutes like real hw
[22:33] <JZTech101> Also
[22:33] <JZTech101> Why am I getting 14.04.1?
[22:34] <JZTech101> 14.04.3 has long been out
[22:34] <JZTech101> :<
[22:34] <mwenning> enlist or commission?
[22:34] <JZTech101> commission?
[22:35] <mwenning> the pxeboot images are still 14.04.1, once you get to the real image on the hd (in deploy), you should see 14.04.3
[22:35] <JZTech101> ah
[22:40] <JZTech101> o.O
[22:41] <JZTech101> hey mwenning what am I doing wrong? I put the public SSH Key in there. (the .pub file). And I still can't connect. I'm using owner as the username. Should I use something else?
[22:42] <JZTech101> hm. Apparently I should
[22:42] <mwenning> ssh ubuntu@mynode
[22:42] <JZTech101>  the user is ubuntu
[22:44] <JZTech101> well its deployed and it says "Welcome to Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.13.0-35-generic x86_64)
[22:44] <JZTech101> "
[22:46] <catbus1> I had a fresh maas install and configuration on Monday, and the imported image is 14.04.3 on my maas.
[22:46] <catbus1> JZTech101: what your maas version?
[22:46] <catbus1> not that I think it's related, but would be good to know.
[22:47] <JZTech101> uh
[22:47] <JZTech101> where do I get the version?
[22:47] <catbus1> apt-cache policy maas
[22:47] <catbus1> if you are using maas 1.8, you should see maas version on the bottom left of the maas webpage
[22:48] <JZTech101>   Installed: 1.7.6+bzr3376-0ubuntu2~14.04.1
[22:48] <JZTech101> o.O
[22:49] <JZTech101> I installed from a Server CD I downloaded today
[22:49] <JZTech101> ;_;
[22:50] <catbus1> 1.7.6 is good
[22:51] <catbus1> wait, 14.04.1 but with newer kernel 3.13, your node is using 14.04.1 user space and 3.13 kernel, the same kernel version as in 14.04.3.
[22:56] <catbus1> JZTech101: I used MAAS to deploy a node and it comes up the same as you are seeing.
[22:56] <catbus1> JZTech101: the other node 14.04.3 I have, I used juju to deploy, so I guess after the install, it might do apt-get dist-upgrade.
[23:01] <catbus1> sorry, I was wrong about the kernel version in 14.04.3, it is 3.19. It is 3.13 in 14.04.1.
[23:01] <catbus1> JZTech101: so I did apt-get dist-upgrade on the MAAS deployed node, and now it comes up 14.04.3 with 3.13.0-35 kernel.
[23:17] <JZTech101> ah ok


[02:56] <gh0sth4ck3r> Hey there! :D
[02:57] <Unit193> Howdy.
[03:00] <Unit193> Is it something I said?


[21:55] <mathomastech> Is there an official Ubuntu-MN 14.04 release party? norlug is hosting a 14.04 release party next thursday. I was looking on loco.ubuntu.com to add it, but it looks like only the official Ubuntu-loco groups can add it. Would you guys be interested teaming up with NORLUG for an official release party?
[21:55] <mathomastech> http://www.norlug.org/meetings/2014/04/17/Ubuntu1404ReleaseParty.html
[21:56] <mathomastech> tonyyarusso ^
[22:20] <tonyyarusso> mathomastech: Heck yeah
[22:20] <tonyyarusso> I think I have access to the loco site....
[22:22] <tonyyarusso> mathomastech: what's the address of this place?
[22:26] <tonyyarusso> mathomastech: Would you be the event contact for that, and if so is your Launchpad username "jazzyflute"?
[22:43] <tonyyarusso> mathomastech: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-minnesota/2770-northfield-mn-1404-release-party/
[23:00] <mathomastech> We have having it here: Goodbye Blue Monday Coffeehouse
[23:00] <mathomastech> 319 Division St S
[23:00] <mathomastech> Northfield, yes
[23:00] <mathomastech> Northfield, MN
[23:01] <mathomastech> And yea, my username on launchpad is jazzyflute. I think I may haved joining the ubuntu-mn loco team when I first moved here in October.
[23:01] <tonyyarusso> Yeah, you did :)
[23:02] <tonyyarusso> The LoCo site is kind of scary - when it prompted me to enter the event contact, it popped up the team members close to the location.
[23:02] <tonyyarusso> Smart stuff
[23:02] <mathomastech> I could be the event contact if you'd like, or since you are the ubuntu-mn contact you could do that as well.
[23:02] <mathomastech> Cool


[00:33] <mices> what's this all about with firefox and lubuntu-desktop? why if i uninstall firefox does lubuntu-desktop get uninstalled with it and why does my lubuntu desktop still seem to work without it?
[00:34] <mices> i had the impression i could boost performance by uninstalling firefox
[03:32] <MrJebat> hi, morning to all, would like to ask, im very new in Ubuntu, and need a help from you guys, at the moment Im running Intel Atom 1.5ghz with install memory of RAM 2.0 GB, my question is what is the most compatible Ubuntu version should I download, thanks for your helping guys
[03:34] <wxl> MrJebat: are you looking for help with ubuntu or lubuntu?
[03:35] <MrJebat> lubuntu,
[03:36] <wxl> MrJebat: which atom?
[03:37] <MrJebat> Intel (R) Atom
[03:37] <wxl> which one?
[03:40] <wxl> MrJebat: there's another way to answer my ultimate question: boot up the BIOS and see if there's an option to turn on 64 bit support. if there is, toggle it and get the amd64 version. desktop or alternate will work fine but alternate will take less memory. use desktop if you want to play with it before installing.
[03:41] <wxl> MrJebat: if you do figure out the processor you can see that some Atoms are 32 bit only https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Atom
[03:41] <MrJebat> mine 32 bit
[03:41] <MrJebat> sorry for my poor knowledge
[03:41] <wxl> MrJebat: if it's only 32 bit, get i386
[03:42] <MrJebat> ok thank you
[16:57] <Sadik87> hi all
[16:59] <Sadik87> Motherboard: M2N-SLI          Grafik: gtx 560 ti   SoundCard: CM6501
[16:59] <Sadik87> Sound driver problem
[16:59] <Sadik87> big
[17:00] <Sadik87> bug
[17:00] <Sadik87> my english low
[17:00] <Sadik87> thx all