[11:25] <raoul> Hi everyone, since this morning my CPU is overloaded by a process "perl" launched by root, I keep to kill -9 it but it is relaunched everytime and i can't manage to find witch script it is, any idea anyone ? thanx
[11:25] <iLisa> No. :\
[11:25] <kristof78> does anyone know a tutorial how to rebuild and move a mdadm raid5
[11:25] <kristof78> I've searched all over and found nothing
[11:25] <iLisa> Dosn't even play a sound when i turn the computer on.
[11:26] <digifor> I would prefer to put ubuntu on this box because it is for a guy who is not into computing. It is easier to locate people who know debian/ubuntu for help.
[11:26] <psycho_oreos> liveuser999, sounds like a network manager issue under karmic I suppose, there's not much other alternatives that I can think of apart from getting another hardware to sit in between the splitter (for rj45) and the computer, get something like router to sit in between and from there obtain IP address, etc
[11:26] <airtonix> iLisa, right click the sound icon in the notification tray and click on the hardware tab, then write here the options you see in the drop down menu when you click it (at the bottom)
[11:26] <psycho_oreos> digifor, and which version of ubuntu is this?
[11:26] <obscurant1st> chelz, i had some connectivity problems, you still there?
[11:26] <chao06> iLisa: what's the sound card listed when you run 'lspci'?
[11:26] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos,  yes...a router would be my only chance...:|
[11:27] <digifor> 9.10
[11:27] <airtonix> iLisa, i would ask you to take a screen shot of that but gnome wont let you use print screen when you have a dialog control widget open
[11:27] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos, I had some connectivity problems, you guys gave me any replies?
[11:27] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos,  until then i have to change to another distro
[11:27] <airtonix> iLisa, or you can pastebin the output of lspci -vv
[11:27] <psycho_oreos> liveuser999, it'd probably work a bit more ideal I suppose because there isn't much of other ways except to somehow mess with wvdial
[11:27] <iLisa> sure one minute
[11:28] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos,  thanks for your help
[11:28] <psycho_oreos> obscurant1st, have you actually tried choosing another repo mirror yet?
[11:28] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos, how can i do it?
[11:28] <obscurant1st> choosing another repo mirror?
[11:28] <psycho_oreos> liveuser999, no worries, can't help you there much, even if there's a fix you still need active connection to sort it out :/
[11:29] <airtonix> iLisa, the widget im talking about on the hardware tab is labeled "profile", what i would do first in your case is open up rhythmbox and play a song, then change the option selected in the profile dropdown menu of the hardware tab in the volumen preferences
[11:29] <AsoxOsolox> can i speak fresh please, i have problem with bluetooth
[11:29] <bullgard>  '~$ avahi-browser -a' outputs a line: "iChat Presence    local". What does this mean?
[11:29] <psycho_oreos> obscurant1st, use synaptic to change the mirror
[11:29] <iLisa> I've already done that airtonix. :\
[11:29] <obscurant1st> ok let me check it
[11:29] <iLisa> airtonix, http://pastebin.com/YHMrKjbd
[11:29] <psycho_oreos> !fr | AsoxOsolox
[11:29] <airtonix> iLisa, none of them give you sound then.
[11:29] <airtonix> iLisa, when you were playing a song did the application show up in the applications tab ?
[11:29] <AsoxOsolox> ok thank u psycho_oreos
[11:30] <amar> hey guys ... cpu usage on my System goes upto 56-60% for few applications like firefox & totem player
[11:30] <psycho_oreos> AsoxOsolox, no worries
[11:30] <amar> is it something related to X
[11:30] <iLisa> one minute, i can't remember let me do it again.
[11:30] <amar> becoz normally these application shouldn't take much than 30-40%
[11:30] <iLisa> yes it did airtonix
[11:30] <psycho_oreos> liveuser999, there might, just might be another way.. using the livecd version of lucid to try and update the installed version of karmic
[11:30] <amar> ?
[11:30] <chao06> iLisa: mm... i'm not even seeing your soundcard in here
[11:30] <airtonix> iLisa, ok one minute.
[11:31] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos, is it the option "Download from under settings - > repositories?
[11:31] <airtonix> chao06, line 127
[11:31] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos,  tried, the same
[11:31] <airtonix> chao06, i mean 116
[11:31] <iLisa> chao06, i might not even have the driver installed on ubuntu, if im right. I'm new to ubuntu.
[11:31] <psycho_oreos> obscurant1st, yes, choose one that's not from India
[11:31] <airtonix> err 113
[11:31] <amar> can anyone help me over here
[11:31] <chao06> airtonix: just found it : )
[11:32] <airtonix> iLisa, it has a driver loaded and in use. just need pulse-audio to see it. first you should confirm that pulse audio is running from the multimedia preferences application.
[11:32] <airtonix> iLisa, i mean running as in handling multimedia from the system.
[11:32] <psycho_oreos> liveuser999, with lucid? hmm it probably is network manager plaguing both karmic and lucid, I don't know and somewhat doubt there's wvdial, but with some knowledge and hope you might be able to get it to work
[11:32] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos, ok
[11:33] <airtonix> iLisa, one second while i get the command to run
[11:33] <iLisa> okay thanks
[11:33] <iLisa> i'm really confused, since i switched over from XP to ubuntu just like that
[11:33] <liveuser999> psycho_oreos,  i hope so too
[11:33] <chao06> iLisa: the driver for that card is in the default install... which version are you running? desktop, nbr, server?
[11:33] <iLisa> desktop
[11:34] <airtonix> chao06, line 124 :         Kernel driver in use: Intel ICH
[11:34] <iLisa> chao06, dekstop
[11:34] <amar> seems everyone is busy over here
[11:35] <psycho_oreos> amar, might want to try other browser and media players
[11:35] <chao06> iLisa: do you even get the startup sounds? like the drum thing in loading the login screen?
[11:35] <iLisa> No i dont chao06
[11:36] <amar> hmmm
[11:36] <amar> vlc also took 56%
[11:37] <chao06> iLisa: does your computer have a headphones out? maybe try that...
[11:37] <airtonix> iLisa, ok run : gstreamer-properties
[11:37] <iLisa> chao06, one minute let me do what air said
[11:37] <psycho_oreos> amar, what sort of CPU is this?
[11:37] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos, ok i have done that, i choose somehting from singapore, which came when i clicked on choose best server
[11:37] <airtonix> iLisa, confirm for me the opens set in the dropdown menus
[11:37] <amar> it sounds much of bug or improper driver version than n application related issue
[11:37] <airtonix> options*
[11:37] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos, now what should i do
[11:37] <psycho_oreos> amar, like the speed of processor
[11:37] <amar> one sec
[11:37] <psycho_oreos> obscurant1st, hit ok/apply and answer yes to the next question from synaptic
[11:38] <airtonix> iLisa, also if you want try each option and use the test buttons
[11:38] <obscurant1st> ok i have done that too
[11:38] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos,
[11:38] <amar> i m using my brothers laptop
[11:38] <iLisa> airtonix, i got this window "Multimeda systems selector"
[11:38] <iLisa> Media*
[11:38] <psycho_oreos> obscurant1st, now go try instaling wicd
[11:38] <airtonix> iLisa, correct. you should have two tabs there : audio & video.
[11:38] <psycho_oreos> amar, and you don't know the CPU specs?
[11:38] <iLisa> yep i do airtonix
[11:39] <amar> Intel Centrino Mobile Technology\
[11:39] <airtonix> iLisa, ok the audio tab is what we care about ... deault output is set to ?
[11:39] <amar> its a dell laptop inspiron 700m
[11:39] <iLisa> plugin = autodetect - Device = unsupported - Pipeline = autoaudosink
[11:39] <airtonix> iLisa, ok change it to pulse audio
[11:40] <airtonix> iLisa, then use the test button
[11:40] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos, same error comes
[11:40] <obscurant1st> :(
[11:40] <psycho_oreos> amar, grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo
[11:40] <obscurant1st> should i do update /upgrade?
[11:40] <amar> ya i did less
[11:40] <amar> wait i will let u knw
[11:40] <psycho_oreos> obscurant1st, do sudo aptitude update first don't worry about upgrade
[11:40] <iLisa> airtonix, nope no sound. i even tried spotify
[11:41] <amar> Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz
[11:41] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos, ok, doing that now
[11:41] <airtonix> iLisa, when you change the default output plugin, does the device menu become available ?
[11:41] <iLisa> yes it does airtonix
[11:41] <airtonix> iLisa, and did you test each option there ?
[11:41] <psycho_oreos> amar, hmm reasonably fast CPU, have you installed the video drivers?
[11:41] <chao06> iLisa: how's the audio out? it could be a hardware problem w/ the internal speakers
[11:42] <amar> its actually onboard driver
[11:42] <psycho_oreos> amar, you meant onboard chipset
[11:42] <amar> @c-24-9-232-39.hsd1.co.comcast.net) has joined #ubuntu
 plugin = autodetect - Device = unsupported - Pipeline = autoaudosink
[11:42] <amar> * SandGorgon<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[11:42] <amar> * CryptoQuick<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has left #ubuntu
[11:42] <amar> * tankdriver<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[11:42] <FloodBot4> amar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
 iLisa, ok change it to pulse audio
[11:42] <iLisa> airtonix,
[11:42] <iLisa> the device option
[11:42] <iLisa> theres only default and unknown options there
[11:43] <iLisa> same for audio output
[11:43] <airtonix> iLisa, test button does nothing ?
[11:43] <iLisa> nope
[11:43] <iLisa> comes a little screen up, and then says press OK to finsh
[11:43] <iLisa> finish
[11:43] <amar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/411546/
[11:43] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos, it didnt help, same error comes!
[11:43] <obscurant1st> :(
[11:43] <airtonix> iLisa, ok one other thing, back in the volume preferences you get from the notification tray, look at the output tab
[11:44] <iLisa> yes
[11:44] <iLisa> Connector = Analog output / amplifier
[11:44] <amar> psycho sorry for that flooding
[11:44] <amar> did u take a look at the pastebin url which i pasted
[11:44] <airtonix> iLisa, changing that does n't help you ?
[11:44] <Kazz|Away> o/
[11:44] <DaDa|Urka> Why does the cmus digital output only work when starting cmus as root?
[11:44] <iLisa> Device output sound: Internal audio analog stereo
[11:44] <psycho_oreos> obscurant1st, what was the missing package?
[11:44] <iLisa> Well theres alot of options, guess i'll just try them
[11:44] <airtonix> iLisa, is that the only one listed there ?
[11:44] <iLisa> Yes
[11:45] <airtonix> iLisa, play with the drop down menu at the bottom then
[11:45] <psycho_oreos> amar, probably a better idea to pastebin lspci -nnk output instead
[11:45] <amar> pyscho u there?
[11:45] <amar> ok
[11:45] <amar> will do it now
[11:45] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos, python-urwid
[11:45] <Kazz|Away> 1st time user seeking advice pls :)
[11:45] <iLisa> it came :)
[11:45] <chelz> jolaren^away: obviously wrong?
[11:46] <iLisa> woah i got scared
[11:46] <airtonix> iLisa, problem solve then ?
[11:46] <iLisa> i had the radio on..
[11:46] <nino_> hi all
[11:46] <iLisa> Yep, i put the connector to Analog mono output
[11:46] <airtonix> iLisa, next time you have audio problems on a different machine try looking in those two places we went through
[11:46] <amar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/411547/
[11:46] <iLisa> okay :) airtonix, i have a diffrent problem but im not sure if you can solve it
[11:46] <psycho_oreos> obscurant1st, ok revert back to India repo mirror and do all the things previous, such as applying, reloading and doing aptitude update
[11:46] <airtonix> iLisa, try avoid anyones advice about removing pulseaudio
[11:46] <amar> done
[11:46] <iLisa> okay.
[11:47] <iLisa> may i ask airtonix?
[11:47] <airtonix> iLisa, go ahead
[11:47] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos, ok
[11:47] <Athunye> Hello.
[11:47] <iLisa> Okay, so im running this client, and im supposed to write in security code, i do that. Then im summposed to press a 'continue' button, but there is none!
[11:47] <iLisa> There is one on windows
[11:47] <psycho_oreos> amar, hmm I suppose its already using the native driver included, have you tried this on another computer to see if it has the same effect?
[11:48] <airtonix> iLisa, expand on 'security client'
[11:48] <amar> no
[11:48] <amar> but it almost gets hung while watching a movie on totem or vlc
[11:48] <iLisa> what do you mean with that airtonix
[11:48] <psycho_oreos> amar, and which version of ubuntu is this?
[11:48] <digifor> psycho_oreos, this freeze issue seems to be a gnome bug. I am not having any problem in LXDE
[11:48] <airtonix> iLisa, what is the client?
[11:48] <amar> or say while u try to click on any other video on youtube it just stops responding for a long time
[11:48] <amar> 9.10
[11:49] <psycho_oreos> digifor, ahh probably a good idea to file the bug if it doesn't exist
[11:49] <airtonix> iLisa, i assume it's to log into somewhere ?
[11:49] <iLisa> It's a client by IMpsoft
[11:49] <iLisa> Yes
[11:49] <app> God that Empathy is terrible. Why is XChat not there as a default way to access this channel?
[11:49] <banshee_> If I'm running a program in terminal, whats the command to stop it
[11:49] <iLisa> It's a Runescape client, if you know what that is.
[11:49] <psycho_oreos> banshee_, pkill
[11:49] <Athunye> Karmic is not able to mound a dvd. In xp I can burn, erase or whatever with xpcdburner. dmesg | tais says it was not able to indentify cd-rom format. I was working with that dvd on linux only. (it is a rewitable cd).
[11:49] <app> And Gwibber keeps crashing at least here in VMWare Player on XP....
[11:49] <airtonix> iLisa, yes. so the client is in java ?
[11:49] <iLisa> Yes
[11:49] <iLisa> Java or C++
[11:49] <app> Sorry, I should be in ubuntu+1, bye!
[11:49] <iLisa> it's a .sh file
[11:49] <airtonix> iLisa, and the secrity code you need to input is part of runescape ?
[11:49] <amar> psycho
[11:49] <psycho_oreos> amar, I'd try looking for any video driver tweaks, failing that I'd try alternative programs such as chromium and smplayer
[11:50] <iLisa> Yes, the client is NOT done by runescape
[11:50] <xteejx> Is there any easy to follow instructions to install the madwifi drivers in Ubuntu
[11:50] <xteejx> ?
[11:50] <xteejx> the ath5k doesn't work for me
[11:50] <iLisa> client done by > http://www.impsoft.net/tp/index.php
[11:50] <psycho_oreos> xteejx, go through hardware drivers
[11:50] <martiner> Hello, do anyone know how to get my Logitech quickcam fusion to work with both audio and video?
[11:50] <iLisa> but the client goes to runescape
[11:50] <airtonix> iLisa, ok. what is the purpose of the client ?
[11:50] <amar> ok
[11:50] <Athunye> See... Now that I burned something on xp, it mounted fine in Ubuntu...
[11:50] <psycho_oreos> obscurant1st, http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/python-urwid <--- try that
[11:50] <Athunye> Frustrating...
[11:50] <amar> thnx psycho
[11:50] <iLisa> A few more stuff, like checking up stats etc.
[11:50] <psycho_oreos> amar, no worries
[11:50] <airtonix> iLisa, or can you give me a link to the client ?
[11:50] <xteejx> psycho: madwifi drivers aren't available in Hardware Drivers, I'm using Lucid
[11:50] <iLisa> Sure thing
[11:51] <psycho_oreos> !lucid | xteejx
[11:51] <bazhang> xteejx, lucid in #ubuntu+1
[11:51] <amar> i had the same issue on my desktop where i had Geforce 6200 card n i had installed nvidia's properitary drivers
[11:51] <iLisa> http://www.rsbots.net/download/ <- Download Bot client.
[11:51] <amar> downloaded from nvidia website
[11:51] <airtonix> iLisa, ah so it is a character stats reporter for when you are not logged into the game ?
[11:51] <iLisa> Yes, it is also a bot.
[11:51] <iLisa> But that's nothing for my children honestly
[11:51] <iLisa> Just using it for the extra features.
[11:51] <xteejx> You know what......the madwifi drivers have appeared in Hardware Drivers !!
[11:51] <amar> but after reading the mess it creates i decided to use nvidia kernel modules provided by ubuntu itself
[11:51] <psycho_oreos> amar, probably lot more ideal if you went through hardware drivers for that matter, I'd say it could be a codecs issue somewhere along the lines
[11:52] <amar> codec issue can be with totem but waht abt vlc
[11:52] <bullgard>  '~$ avahi-browser -a' outputs a line: "iChat Presence    local". What does this mean?
[11:52] <psycho_oreos> amar, could be the same issue or the output driver is slow
[11:52] <amar> even if say it abt a player then to firefox shouldn't take so much amt of X while playing or switching to another video on youtube
[11:53] <amar> will have to really go through the docs
[11:53] <amar> :)
[11:53] <iLisa> airtonix, do you need a guide on how to run it?
[11:53] <airtonix> iLisa, i assume you've followed the guides there ?
[11:53] <iLisa> Yes
[11:53] <iLisa> But nobody else has this problem
[11:53] <psycho_oreos> amar, there's smplayer which allows finetuning, including output driver
[11:53] <Kazz|Away> 1st time ubuntu/linux user seeking advice pls :)
[11:53] <rocket16> Friends,consider joining ##linux-freedom a light-weight Ubuntu channel, about Ubuntu experience and talks.
[11:53] <psycho_oreos> !ask | Kazz|Away
[11:54] <amar> ok
[11:54] <bazhang> rocket16, dont advertise here
[11:54] <amar> ya i knw mplayer
[11:54] <amar> will try out this too
[11:54] <psycho_oreos> amar, other than that I'm not really sure whats the problem, probably give jaunty a try just to be sure
[11:54] <airtonix> iLisa, is this the guide you're having problems with ? http://www.rsbots.net/manuals/Bot-Client-Installation-Manual-for-Mac/
[11:55] <amar> naaah can't do that
[11:55] <iLisa> No, airtronix
[11:55] <iLisa> I've installed it
[11:55] <iLisa> My problem is
[11:55] <amar> my brother won't allow me to revert back to jaunty
[11:55] <amar> heheh
[11:55] <iLisa> I can't press continue IN the client
[11:55] <rocket16> bazhang: Or what? Drive me out again, like you did previously?
[11:55] <iLisa> There should be a continue button but there is none.
[11:55] <iLisa> But there is on windows
[11:55] <FloodBot4> iLisa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:55] <rocket16> bazhang: Really felt offended that day,
[11:55] <psycho_oreos> amar, I meant running livecd of jaunty
[11:55] <bazhang> rocket16, its offtopic, please remain on topic here
[11:55] <iLisa> Sorry
[11:55] <amar> hmmm
[11:55] <s3r3n1t7> rocket16, this is a support channel, not an advertisement channel.
[11:55] <amar> lets see will ask him n see
[11:55] <rocket16> s3r3n1t7: Ok,
[11:55] <Kazz|Away> Just installed ubuntu in a VM ... need to update video drivers first thing (800x600 res sux) have gone to nvidia website ... need flash player ... can someone recommend ... Adobe VS Swfdec vs Gnash ?
[11:56] <iLisa> want me to screen it to you airtonix ?
[11:56] <airtonix> iLisa, continue button in the runescape client or the bot client ?
[11:56] <amar> currently checking with smplayer if it works then well n good
[11:56] <amar> may be thats the issue he already has google chrome installed onthe system
[11:56] <psycho_oreos> Kazz|Away, under VM, nvidia driver doesn't work, you need to install whatever client tools that's available for your VM software
[11:56] <iLisa> the bot client airtonix
[11:56] <airtonix> iLisa, does runescape work without trying to use the bot? (this will confirm you have java installed)
[11:57] <iLisa> Yes
[11:57] <iLisa> It does work, and yes i have java installed
[11:57] <amar> hey psycho ya onething i forgot to tell u
[11:57] <airtonix> iLisa, ok because i dont have runescape i can't do anything else for you... maybe someone else here can.
[11:57] <amar> it might be that firefox profile has some issue n totem has some codecs issue
[11:57] <amar> it can be this way around ....
[11:58] <amar> becoz other apps looks fine
[11:58] <iLisa> okay. :(
[11:58] <airtonix> iLisa, i think the bot creator has not forseen all possibilities for the client when run on variations on linux.
[11:58] <iLisa> Oh, i'll contact them then. :)
[11:58] <psycho_oreos> amar, if you mean firefox as in when loading youtube pages for example or any pages with multimedia, firefox parses on to the decoder via plugins
[11:58] <Kazz|Away> psycho_oreos ... aight ... will look at that issue next but first ... flash player? Adobe vs gnash vs swfdec ?
[11:59] <Lord_Chewbakka> hallo i cant run my .bin files even after chmod -x, what do i do wrong?
[11:59] <psycho_oreos> Kazz|Away, use the ubuntu's way
[11:59] <psycho_oreos> !flash | Kazz|Away
[11:59] <iLisa> Well
[11:59] <Kazz|Away> !flash
[11:59] <iLisa> Have a good day airtonix, chao06 and amar
[11:59] <iLisa> Thanks for the help guys
[11:59] <amar> hehe
[12:00] <psycho_oreos> Lord_Chewbakka, that .bin file probably needs to be started in console not just via double clicking
[12:00] <bredoto> hia
[12:00] <amar> In my office i have faced probs with my thunderbird profile
[12:00] <amar> it use to just take up 100% usage sometimes
[12:00] <Lord_Chewbakka> psycho_oreos: i know but whats the command for that?
[12:00] <amar> will investigate it
[12:00] <amar> anyways thanks psycho
[12:00] <amar> bye
[12:00] <chardry> Bonjour
[12:01] <psycho_oreos> !fr | chardry
[12:01] <Kazz|Away> !Gnash
[12:01] <bredoto> does anybody had listened about foxgate switches before?
[12:02] <Kazz|Away> !help
[12:03] <Kazz|Away> :P !commands
[12:03] <bredoto> anybody!!!! Need help!
[12:03] <psycho_oreos> bredoto, never heard of foxgate switches
[12:05] <Lord_Chewbakka> for any sweeds out there "commander@commander-desktop:/media/SPACE/Spel/Jagged Alliance 2 Gold$ ./flt-ja2a.bin
[12:05] <Lord_Chewbakka> bash: ./flt-ja2a.bin: det kår inte att köra binär fil
[12:05] <Lord_Chewbakka> " =?
[12:05] <xubunto> I still do not have asound in my xubunto
[12:05] <bazhang> !se | Lord_Chewbakka
[12:05] <xubunto> and canot install any plugins: bash: permission denied
[12:05] <Lord_Chewbakka> thx
[12:05] <xubunto> any suggetsions or help?
[12:06] <psycho_oreos> xubunto, use sudo
[12:06] <bredoto>  psycho_oreos, thnk i need to receive  some feedback
[12:06] <psycho_oreos> Lord_Chewbakka, you need something like fuseiso or cdemu
[12:06] <xubunto> I'm a very jang: just wnat to use dvb-s
[12:06] <psycho_oreos> bredoto, yes, if its a hardware thing you might want to try ##hardware
[12:07] <psycho_oreos> xubunto, that made no sense
[12:07] <xubunto> ok.
[12:08] <xubunto> i installed and searshing for dvb-s apliocation
[12:08] <Lord_Chewbakka> psycho_oreos: dont fuseiso only work for iso.s?
[12:08] <bredoto>  psycho_oreos, thnk againe
[12:08] <xubunto> have all driver loaded, but still get no sound
[12:09] <psycho_oreos> Lord_Chewbakka, I think fuseiso works with a few formats, but cdemu is the closest thing under linux that you can get which is like daemon tools or alcohol under windows
[12:09] <bullgard>  '~$ avahi-browser -a' outputs a line: "iChat Presence    local". How can I use this service?
[12:09] <psycho_oreos> bredoto, no worries
[12:09] <duanmingsheng> qmmp?
[12:09] <duanmingsheng> help qmmp?
[12:09] <duanmingsheng> use
[12:09] <psycho_oreos> xubunto, could be a sound server issue or config or even muted
[12:09] <xubunto> so, i canot install any of this plugins, who used by keffeine because i don't have a permision
[12:10] <Lord_Chewbakka> psycho_oreos: ok havnt tried that software yet, il give it a shot, thx!
[12:10] <xubunto> all sound is seeing by system and is active
[12:10] <psycho_oreos> Lord_Chewbakka, word of warning, cdemu messes around with pulseaudio under jaunty, no wording if its resolved under karmic
[12:10] <xubunto> i have a MAA69vm and hd4770
[12:11] <xubunto> all of them is active,
[12:11] <xubunto> but stil have no sound.
[12:11] <psycho_oreos> xubunto, checked sound levels to see if they're not muted? even under alsamixer?
[12:11] <xubunto> no
[12:11] <xubunto> is not
[12:11] <xubunto> video player go without sound
[12:11] <psycho_oreos> what programs are you using for audio playback?
[12:11] <xubunto> when i use the mp3 he give me a inf that not can be palyed
[12:12] <Lord_Chewbakka> psycho_oreos: what is pulseaudio and jaunty?
[12:12] <psycho_oreos> Lord_Chewbakka, pulseaudio is sound daemon and jaunty is a ubuntu release (9.04)
[12:12] <xubunto> when i'm prove to install all update, still do not have sound
[12:12] <psycho_oreos> more specifically *ubuntu
[12:13] <psycho_oreos> xubunto, you haven't answered my question
[12:13] <xubunto> ?
[12:13] <psycho_oreos> xubunto, which programs have you tried to play, which formats?
[12:13] <Lord_Chewbakka> psycho_oreos: does pulseaudio and jaunty come with the standard ubuntu 9.10?
[12:14] <xubunto> kaffeine and video player
[12:14] <psycho_oreos> Lord_Chewbakka, pulseaudio? yes, jaunty? no because that's older release
[12:14] <psycho_oreos> xubunto, hmm I'd give vlc a go
[12:14] <rumpsy> SolarisBoy: ha hai
[12:14] <psycho_oreos> Lord_Chewbakka, jaunty as in jaunty jackalope
[12:15] <xubunto> with kaffeine without update device not started..
[12:15] <xubunto> boo
[12:15] <chao06> xubunto: have you installed the gstreamer plugins? they're called good bad and ugly
[12:15] <xubunto> yes
[12:15] <xubunto> in another part.
[12:15] <Lord_Chewbakka> psycho_oreos: ok then it should be no trouble
[12:15] <xubunto> why stil do not give me permission to install some of config?
[12:15] <psycho_oreos> Lord_Chewbakka, no, its a precaution that you have to take in mind, it affected jaunty (9.04) and it might still affect karmic (9.10)
[12:15] <rumpsy> lemme have something as good as dreamweaver in ubuntu
[12:16] <psycho_oreos> xubunto, install what config?
[12:16] <xubunto> about kaffeine plugins
[12:16] <jeeez> how do i disable nvidia drivers? my system wont boot now, after i removed the g-card.
[12:16] <Lord_Chewbakka> psycho_oreos: ok whats the worst thing that could happen?
[12:16] <psycho_oreos> xubunto, you're being very vague... maybe you need root permissions to install it?
[12:17] <xubunto> maby
[12:17] <xubunto> ..
[12:17] <jeeez> anyone?
[12:17] <psycho_oreos> jeeez, hmm try recovery mode, chroot it and aptitude remove nvidia
[12:17] <xubunto> how can get this?
[12:17] <chao06> rumpsy: aparently dreamweaver works pretty ok through wine... http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=183
[12:17] <psycho_oreos> !sudo | xubunto
[12:18] <phoenixandthor> rumpsy: dreamweaver is a proprietary product from adobe, which mostly generates flash content.
[12:18] <jeeez> psycho_oreos: it'll fix the kernel loading thingy too, where it loads the nvidia modules?
[12:18] <karim_frl> there is who speak french
[12:18] <phoenixandthor> If you want something a lot more standards compliant, I recomend bluefish
[12:19] <psycho_oreos> jeeez, no if you went through recovery mode, you should be able to bypass loading of nvidia drivers.. if not you'll have to use livecd, chroot, and go from there
[12:19] <psycho_oreos> !fr | karim_frl
[12:19] <phoenixandthor> that bot is so cool
[12:19] <karim_frl> merci
[12:19] <phoenixandthor> what else can it do?
[12:20] <rumpsy> i don't wan to stress it with wine
[12:20] <karim_frl> but i dont want to quit this channel
[12:20] <Audible> http://xkcd.com/619/  <= i love this one
[12:20] <psycho_oreos> !ot | Audible
[12:20] <psycho_oreos> karim_frl, you just do "/join #ubuntu-fr" (without quotes)
[12:20] <phoenixandthor> rumpsy: adobe will never make a version of dreamweaver for linux
[12:20] <phoenixandthor> Either use another web editor, or go back to mac, windows
[12:21] <karim_frl> thank you very much
[12:21] <psycho_oreos> karim_frl, no worries
[12:21] <rumpsy> phoenixandthor: i know that, tell me something for linux, which is good as dreamweaver
[12:22] <phoenixandthor> rumpsy, well, nothing for linux is going to have nealry as many bells and whistles as dreamweaver, but there are a feature rich programs out there
[12:22] <fabio333> rumpsy>: there are such programs
[12:22] <phoenixandthor> depends on what you mostly do, php, html, java, what
[12:22] <dhanesh> hi
[12:23] <fabio333> rumpsy, http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/
[12:23] <bullgard>  '~$ avahi-browser -a' outputs a line: "iChat Presence    local". How can I use this service to copy a file from computer 2 to computer 3 in a LAN??
[12:23] <phoenixandthor> good one fabio
[12:23] <dhanesh>    bullgard install ubuntu 9.10
[12:23] <phoenixandthor> I still like bluefish cause it's a gtk app
[12:23] <rumpsy> fabio333: cool, lemme check that, is that possible for GNOME
[12:24] <phoenixandthor> no, kde
[12:24] <fabio333> rumpsy, you can run kde apps on gnome
[12:24] <phoenixandthor> but it should run under gnome
[12:24] <rumpsy> ^^
[12:24] <phoenixandthor> isn't quanta dead though?
[12:24] <fabio333> rumpsy, dramweaver cs4 got Gold status on wine
[12:24] <dhanesh> phoenixandthor  system requirements for ubuntu 9.10
[12:25] <fabio333> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14343
[12:25] <dhanesh> phoenixandthor  system requirements for ubuntu 9.10
[12:25] <dhanesh> phoenixandthor  system requirements for ubuntu 9.10
[12:25] <phoenixandthor> will you stop, hold on a sec
[12:26] <dhanesh> phoenixandtho gggggggrgsfg
[12:26] <phoenixandthor> I'm going to say that you will be comfortable with a 1GHz processor, and at least 512 MB or ram, 10 GB hard disk space
[12:27] <phoenixandthor> may not be the bare min, but that give a good experience
[12:27] <phoenixandthor> Darkwing
[12:27] <phoenixandthor> sounds familiar
[12:27] <phoenixandthor> have we met before?
[12:29] <dhanesh> phoenixandthor i have installed ubuntu yesterday. after installation a crash report came.it was this is not a genuine ubuntu package.is there any solution
[12:29] <phoenixandthor> depends on what you did to it after initial installation
[12:30] <phoenixandthor> a stock install should not have such a problem
[12:30] <phoenixandthor> all ye more expereienced, chime in any time here
[12:30] <s3r3n1t7> dhanesh, what did you do to generate this crash report?
[12:31] <dhanesh> s3r3n1t7 i dont know
[12:31] <s3r3n1t7> dhanesh, what were you doing when it popped up?
[12:33] <bullgard> dhanesh: I did (long time ago). Still this insufficient.
[12:33] <obscurant1st> psycho_oreos: it worked now wicd is installed, but its not working, i mean the wireless networks are not listed where it is supposed to , and  when i right click it and connect to it, it says connection failed: coul not obstain ip address
[12:34] <dhanesh> phoenixandthor i have installed ubuntu yesterday. after installation a crash report came.it was this is not a genuine ubuntu package.is there any solution
[12:34] <maginot> dhanesh, ubuntu 10.04 ?
[12:35] <jdv> Hi, can anyone help me mount my second drive in ubuntu karmic?
[12:35] <maginot> jdv, mount /dev/sd* /mount/point <- sd* is your drive
[12:36] <jdv> maginot thank you. how do I find out what my drive is ?
[12:36] <strange> sudo fdisk -l
[12:36] <maginot> jdv, or you can open Nautilus and see if the drive doesn't show in the right panel
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> !mount | jdv
[12:37] <maginot> jdv, see, if you type "mount" alone it will show what is mounted, them you can try to figure out who is your disk on /dev/ typing /dev/sd and pressing tab, do you get it?
[12:37] <strange> or sudo fdisk -l
[12:38] <Alphos> hi :)
[12:39] <jdv> it says sda5 is already mounted but in "mount" it is not listed.
[12:40] <Alphos> the fan on my acer laptop under karmic stops right after startup. i've tried pwmconfig, but it outputs "There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed" ; lm-sensors sensors-detect and sensors don't give any indication of a fan being there
[12:40] <jdv> [20856.766098] sda2: rw=0, want=4, limit=2
[12:40] <jdv> [20856.766101] EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock
[12:41] <Alphos> the fan works correctly under windows, and for a reason i know nothing about, the fan started working earlier today - not for long, though
[12:41] <Alphos> i thought it might be bios-related, but after a bios flash nothing has changed : the fan still stops running right after i give my password
[12:41] <s3r3n1t7> Alphos, is it possible the laptop stays cool enough so the fan doesn't need to be used?
[12:42] <Alphos> GPU 57°C and rising, kernel panic when it hits 62 to 65°C, i doubt it s3r3n1t7 ;)
[12:42] <s3r3n1t7> Alphos, my pc at home doesn't need a fan to be used, so was jst wonderin ... but yeh, at those temps it should've kicked in ages ago
[12:43] <Guest> set the BISO, don't set the "Smart Fan" may be better.
[12:43] <Alphos> no access to that
[12:43] <Alphos> nothing about fans in the bios - or perhaps in the last version, i actually didn't check for that one
[12:43] <jdv> so it seems my second drive is busted :/
[12:44] <Alphos> but in the previous version, no mention of fans whatsoever
[12:45] <jdv> is there any alternative filesystem to attempt to load it in which might get past the bad superblock error? I tried ext2, ext3, ext4
[12:45] <fabio333> reiserfs?
[12:45] <joaopinto> jdv, bad superblock means serious corruption
[12:45] <Alphos> i'll give a try to smart-fan in the new bios
[12:46] <Alphos> see ya soon if there's no mention of it again ^^'
[12:46] <joaopinto> trying other fs types will not help
[12:46] <jdv> jaopinto is there anything I can do?
[12:46] <Tripplehelix> scream
[12:46] <jdv> covered that
[12:46] <Guest> Hey, I have encountered a strange problems. I can't set my laptop's brightness...... The only way is to set it after "Ctrl+ALt+F1" and restart gdm.
[12:47] <Tripplehelix> guest search google... I found a great tutorial for my macbook
[12:47] <Guest> google didn't give me correct answer~
[12:47] <jeeez> how to reconfigure x.org config from root shell? i want to stop it from using nvidia and use the normal dispaly instead.
[12:48] <Guest> init 3, and "nvidia-config-display diable"will stop it.
[12:48] <chao06> jeeez: the generic driver is called vesa... you should be able to find the driver selection under the screen section
[12:49] <chao06> jeeez: (in xorg.conf)
[12:49] <jeeez> chao06: okay, let me try that out!
[12:50] <chao06> jeeez: the default ubuntu install doesn't have a xorg.conf... you'll need to generate one, run '
[12:50] <chao06> jeefers: X -configure
[12:50] <frootee> is there a way to stop your system from freezing when you're running a lot of applications on a low-medium end machine?
[12:51] <maginot> actually I would like to know why Ubuntu doesn't use a xorg.conf, how X do it, its a X11 version ability ? I really wanted to make that work on my Distro too
[12:51] <chao06> frootee: don't use gnome
[12:51] <Alphos> nope, no mention of smart-fan in the bios menu
[12:51] <frootee> chao06, use what then?
[12:51] <Alphos> and i checked again, actually the fan stops as soon as the password prompt shows up
[12:52] <chao06> frootee: sorry, wrong name in tab completion, i meant that to go to jeeez
[12:52] <dewman> since we are talking about video cards..... =P
[12:52] <frootee> jeeez doesnt exist
[12:53] <chao06> frootee: agh, getting everything messed up... that was for you... try fluxbox
[12:53] <frootee> chao06, you can install fluxbox on ubuntu?
[12:53] <chao06> frootee: yeah, 'sudo apt-get install fluxbox'
[12:54] <frootee> chao06, wait, I thought that was for 10.04 onlt
[12:54] <frootee> only
[12:54] <geekphreak> hello all
[12:54] <chao06> frootee: ? fluxbox has been around for a long time... it's a light window manager
[12:55] <geekphreak> Pici: howdy :)
[12:55] <frootee> chao06, will it make things more difficult?
[12:55] <chao06> frootee: it's different than gnome, and takes a bit of setting up... if you want something closer to gnome, you can use xfce4
[12:56] <frootee> that only saves you like 50 mb of memory though
[12:57] <chao06> frootee: i've found that memory doesn't tend to be the issue, it's usually processor speed
[12:57] <chao06> frootee: my machines usually run steady around 150-200 Mb of RAM
[12:57] <frootee> frootee, and these window managers free up cpu?
[12:58] <frootee> chao06, and these window managers free up cpu?
[12:59] <chao06> frootee: what other applications are you running alot of? if you want to run alot of browser instances, that's actually probably your problem...
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> frootee:  they free up a little.. but proberly not that much noticab;e on a mondern machine
[12:59] <chao06> Dr_Willis: said a fairly low-end earlier
[13:00] <kmpm> is there a way of getting the openssh server to listen to more then 1 port
[13:00] <frootee> chao06, low-medium end
[13:00] <geekphreak> hmm
[13:00] <Yandzee> Привет всем!
[13:00] <frootee> chao06, so stop running multiple browsers?
[13:01] <bazhang> !ru | Yandzee
[13:01] <bullgard> !ru | Yandzee
[13:01] <chao06> frootee: not necesarilly... if you're using firefox, changing browsers would certainly help...
[13:01] <geekphreak> firefox is that bad?
[13:01] <chao06> frootee: but it really tends to be flash that eats everything
[13:02] <geekphreak> k
[13:02] <chao06> geekphreak: i've had some pretty major issues with firefox in linux the past year or so... i switched to chrome a couple months back
[13:02] <DNil> hi. can anyone please tell me how to run a .so file?
[13:03] <geekphreak> chao06:  ok just curious :)
[13:03] <chao06> frootee: and there's nothing we can do about flash x_x
[13:03] <dene14> hello guys, can anyone help me with htb shaping discipline on linux ?
[13:03] <strange> if its libfish.so you can /load it in irssi
[13:03] <strange> usually its not executable
[13:03] <frootee> chao06, what about using no-script?
[13:03] <chao06> DNil: .so files are plugins...
[13:03] <kmpm> DNil, .so files are not ment to be executed directly
[13:03] <Traveler> bonjour
[13:03] <chao06> frootee: that would definitely help : )
[13:03] <Traveler> hello
[13:04] <frootee> ok
[13:04] <kmpm> DNil, they are like .dll files in W
[13:04] <frootee> thanks
[13:04] <Traveler> Does anyone use Boost::Python under ubuntu ?
[13:04] <chao06> frootee: no problem : )
[13:04] <DNil> its flash player . i just downloaded it from adobe site.how can i install flash player then?
[13:04] <Ziber> !package snp
[13:04] <Ziber> !snp
[13:05] <Ziber> Anyone know any Ubuntu programs for TTY snooping?
[13:05] <chao06> DNil: you should get a .deb from the adobe site for that...
[13:05] <kmpm> DNil, it's a flash player plugin for firefox I guess.... Just put it in the right folder and FF will pick it up.... but as chao06 said, there are better ways
[13:05] <Slart> Traveler: probably.. you can check pop.ubuntu.com if you want the exact numbers
[13:06] <DNil> i looked for it.but they are only providing a .deb file for ubuntu 8.04. will it work?
[13:06] <chao06> DNil: there's a dropdown menu to select your distro, and it gives you a package for you to install
[13:06] <Slart> Traveler: sorry.. that
[13:06] <Slart> Traveler: sorry.. that's popcon.ubuntu.com
[13:06] <DNil> k.checking it.
[13:06] <chao06> DNil: yeah, nothing's really changed all that much
[13:06] <alveraan> Hi there. Can anyone point me to a channel where I could get information about encrypted root using crypttab. I'm interested how crypttab is handled by initramfs.
[13:07] <geekphreak> .join #encrypt
[13:07] <geekphreak> oops
[13:07] <Ziber> Anyone know any Ubuntu programs for TTY snooping?
[13:08] <Slart> !info ttysnoop
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> dont think that works for SSH logins. :)
[13:09] <Ziber> wait, really? :/
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> 'tty' is not ssh :)
[13:10] <Ziber> right. a pts snooper is what i want then
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> check the tools docs/homepage perhaps?  theres alternative login variants also i recall.
[13:10] <ce_maniez18thn> ce_maniez18thn
[13:10] <Ziber> !info ptssnooper
[13:10] <allu2> anyone know how to get omnibook-module for karmic ?
[13:11] <Ziber> is there such a thing?
[13:11] <allu2> Ziber, you ask from me?
[13:12] <Ziber> im asking anyone.
[13:12] <AdigaG> hello all =D
[13:12] <Ziber> allu2: would you happen to know any tho?
[13:12] <AdigaG> Can Any One Help Me
[13:13] <allu2> Ziber, dunno, i tough you asked me about omnibook module
[13:13] <maginot> !ask| AdigaG
[13:13] <AdigaG> lol
[13:13] <geekphreak> maginot: howdy
[13:13] <allu2> Ziber, what are you looking for?
[13:13] <maginot> hey
[13:14] <AdigaG> I need Shell Or BNC Free Can I Find Here Free !?
[13:14] <bazhang> AdigaG, no
[13:14] <bazhang> Ziber, why do you wish to snoop on ssh
[13:14] <AdigaG> Then Where Can Find ?!
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> AdigaG:  google is your friend.
[13:14] <bazhang> AdigaG, no idea, its offtopic here
[13:15] <maginot> AdigaG, stop writing with camel style, please. And what you mean with shell ? Don't you have one(many) already? ;)
[13:15] <thrope> trying to run an installer off a cd and get permission denied even though execute bit is set - I think its a mount option for cds isnt it - but I can't remember what I need to remount?
[13:15] <Ziber> bazhang: Mainly to help people do things, it would allow us to work together, watching what each other is doing, without having to use screen and be on the same account
[13:15] <AdigaG> No
[13:15] <AdigaG> I don't Have :P
[13:15] <IdleOne> maginot: don't be impolite and what he means by shell is a account on a remote server where he can run a bot instance or a bnc amoung other things
[13:16] <chrisw> hey all, what actually triggers logrotate to run?
[13:16] <chrisw> is it a cron job?
[13:16] <thrope> oh got it mount -o remount,exec
[13:16] <maginot> IdleOne, impolite, do you know what you are talking about?
[13:16] <alveraan> chrisw, yes
[13:16] <Slart> chrisw: isn't it a cronjob? I seem to recall seeing it somewhere
[13:16] <neure> if i have usb sdcard reader and i plug it in, where should i see the device?
[13:16] <neure> (using console, no X)
[13:16] <IdleOne> maginot: but yeah I see what you mean by Camel Style...so umm forget about me implying you were being impolite
[13:17] <chrisw> yeah /etc/cron.daily/logrotate
[13:17] <geekphreak> neure:  normally /media
[13:17] <chrisw> 'cept it isnt on oen of our boxes...
[13:17] <maginot> IdleOne, np
[13:17] <neure> geekphreak, it doesn't show up there, i dunno why, maybe because im running ubuntu on vmware
[13:17] <geekphreak> neure:  is it even being detected in vmware, try just sudo  mount
[13:18] <Slart> chrisw: isn't logrotate a single package? tried reinstalling it?
[13:18] <neure> i got some text into root console
[13:18] <neure> about sdb
[13:18] <chrisw> it's there
[13:18] <geekphreak> neure:  where it says it is mounted?
[13:18] <chrisw> adn everything looks fine
[13:18] <neure> assuming drive cache: write through
[13:18] <geekphreak> neure:  it shows the path too
[13:18] <neure> it doesnt say where it is mounted
[13:18] <allu2> if i may ask again, how i could install omnibook-module to Karmic? i readed it enables changing brightness of the screen, background light on and off ,bluethooth and one touch keys, but it doesn't seem to be in ubuntus repo
[13:18] <Slart> chrisw: but no logrotate entry in /etc/cron.daily/ ?
[13:18] <geekphreak> try to manually mount it
[13:18] <chrisw> no, it's there
[13:19] <neure> mount .. err, what?
[13:19] <chrisw> when I do logrotate -d, it says the files should be rotated
[13:19] <chrisw> but then it doesn't happen
[13:19] <chrisw> where does logrotate log to?
[13:19] <Slart> chrisw: hmm.. running logrotate -d   on my system just gives me the help text
[13:20] <Alphos> and here's another kernel panic...
[13:20] <chrisw> logrotate -d /etc/logrotate.conf :-P
[13:20] <Alphos> if anyone has an idea of how to force my fan to run, he'd be a peach to tell me :D
[13:21] <geekphreak> Alphos:  turn it on :p
[13:21] <chrisw> when does stuff in /etc/cron.daily get run?
[13:21] <jeeez> does compiz work without a graphics card?
[13:21] <hiexpo> get libsensors
[13:21] <Vigo> allu2: I saw a Contrast thing in Software Center under Themes and Tweaks...
[13:21] <Slart> chrisw: hmm.. are you running that as a regular user? no sudo?
[13:21] <dsl558> use two power wires
[13:21] <allu2> Alphos, something like echo 1/0 (don't remember) > /proc/acpi/fan/state
[13:21] <bazhang> dsl558, to do what
[13:22] <geekphreak> chrisw:  question for you
[13:22] <allu2> Alphos, don't remember right path so try tab compleate
[13:22] <geekphreak> chrisw:  dont you get mails via logrotate
[13:22] <allu2> Vigo, i check...
[13:22] <Alphos> libsensors already installed
[13:22] <Ziber> is there any tool in ubuntu (besides screen) that will allow me to work together with someone, each being able to watch what the other is doing on SSH?
[13:23] <chrisw> geekphreak: I'm fairly sure logrotate is not an mta, perhaps you meant to ask something else?
[13:23] <Slart> Ziber: nothing that isn't excessively complicated.. vnc over ssh to a common desktop with gnome-terminal maximised would fit that description =)
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> Ziber:  there were some alternatives to screen. that worked basically the same way. but i cant recall their names. 'twin' used tobeone . but i dont think its in the repos any more
[13:24] <chrisw> Slart: I'm running that as root
[13:24] <Ziber> :/
[13:24] <Slart> Ziber: although I'm not entirely sure if vnc can have multiple clients..
[13:24] <Alphos> allu2 : /proc/acpi/fan/state doesn't exist
[13:24] <allu2> Vigo, under what? there is no such tab :P
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> vnc can do multi clients.. it can get confuseing however i recall.
[13:24] <Alphos> /proc/acpi/fan is actually an empty dir
[13:24] <allu2> Alphos, i told you i don't remember path
[13:25] <vianocturna85> hey im using evolution as my mail client and at home it works perfect, but when im at school, it wont connect. here i have a wpa connection, but at school its TTLS WEP...any ideas why it doesnt work?
[13:25] <allu2> Alphos, your on laptop?
[13:25] <Alphos> yes, allu2
[13:25] <allu2> Alphos, then i don't know :(
[13:25] <Alphos> acer aspire 6930G to be accurate
[13:25] <allu2> Alphos, there is any bios setting ?
[13:25] <Vigo> allu2: Whoops, I am on 10b, let me look at the 9.10 repositories.
[13:25] <Alphos> none related to the fan
[13:25] <allu2> Vigo, :P
[13:25] <maginot> vianocturna85, are you sure isn't any firewall blocking your access?
[13:26] <geekphreak> chrisw:  dont quote me on this, but i thik it had a feature , where it sent log info to root@localhost , you could set it up
[13:26] <allu2> Alphos, and to cpu?
[13:26] <Alphos> none either
[13:26] <Alphos> Health menu is absent
[13:26] <vianocturna85> well not on my end theres not, maybe on school firewall, but the windows users are able to use their standard mail app
[13:26] <Curly_Q> Vianocturna85 most likely there is a port block at school.
[13:26] <allu2> Alphos, ok :( sorry i can't help then
[13:27] <chrisw> geekphreak: hanks, I'll bear that in mind...
[13:27] <Kazz|Away> psycho_oreos you still there ?
[13:27] <BluesKaj> Hi Folks
[13:27] <inktri> im trying to dl a 30gb file via sftp from some server... i always get an error after around 10 hours of dling. how can i change my sftp settings so that the connection persists for more htan 10 hours?
[13:27] <geekphreak> vianocturna85:  using gmail as mail server?
[13:27] <vianocturna85> i am
[13:28] <hiexpo> allu2, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8136893&postcount=5
[13:28] <geekphreak> vianocturna85:  both incmoning and out going not working or just one?
[13:29] <geekphreak> arvind_khadri: howdy sir :)
[13:29] <vianocturna85> geekphreak: Well i havent tried to send mail since it makes evolution hang when it tries to connect to the server...so i know for a fact incoming doesnt work, i cant say for sure about outgoing
[13:29] <arvind_khadri> geekphreak, wassup :) am fine
[13:29] <allu2> hiexpo, Hallelujah :D thank you :)
[13:29] <tHW> arvind_khadri: what a coincidence
[13:29] <allu2> Vigo, thank you too :)
[13:29] <JmZ> is there a channel somewhere on here where i can ask about empathy?
[13:29] <smf> #empathy?
[13:30] <smf> #j #empathy
[13:30] <Vigo> allu2: HP?
[13:30] <JmZ> empty, #empathy
[13:30] <arvind_khadri> tHW, :)
[13:30] <JmZ> like 3 people
[13:30] <hiexpo> yep
[13:30] <allu2> Vigo, yeah
[13:30] <smf> hmm maybe not
[13:30] <booksbuggy> my clock is always 4 hours later than the right time no matter how i adjust it how do i fix this?
[13:30] <JmZ> not very useful heh
[13:30] <smf> perhaps #gnome
[13:30] <arvind_khadri> JmZ, why not just ask here
[13:30] <JmZ> well i just wondered if there was a more specific channel
[13:30] <JmZ> but i will now
[13:30] <allu2> Vigo, hiexpo gave me tutorial to get the omnibook module :)
[13:30] <tHW> Jmz arvind has most answers
[13:30] <Vigo> allu2: okee dokee. neato
[13:31] <geekphreak> vianocturna85: chances are settings are ok, but do double check them again, otherwise i goto gmail webmail setting, disable pop access , save changes, and enable it back on
[13:31] <Curly_Q> Vianocturna85 keep in mind that when you are at home your SMTP and servername and port is different at school.
[13:31] <JmZ> ok i have two bugs i've noticed. One, occasionally messages from a contact show as being from me. Two, messages containing newlines fail to be displayed.
[13:31] <JmZ> i searched for known bugs and the second does exist but nobody seems to be interested in it
[13:31] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, do you have the correct time zone ?
[13:31] <JmZ> no activity on that bug
[13:31] <maginot> vianocturna85, well, if you can connect normally at home (I suppose you are using a notebook) and on your school you have internet access with this notebook but can't access your email some block is happing on your school, maybe the other users who are being able to access are using normal smtp/pop/imap ports which gmail doesn't use
[13:31] <vianocturna85> geekphreak: I thought that since it was IMAP, so I changed that so it was POP3...didnt make a difference
[13:31] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, well i am in USA so i selected that one
[13:32] <vianocturna85> maginot: Ah, i never knew that, I thought Gmail was using the normal
[13:32] <geekphreak> vianocturna85:   do you get any error message, ?
[13:32] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, do you dual boot ?
[13:32] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, is the location option suppose to be for the timezone?
[13:32] <vianocturna85> Geekphreak: Time-out
[13:33] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, yeah...
[13:33] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, i don't dual boot
[13:33] <Curly_Q> A timeout is a server not responding.
[13:33] <chazco> I've tired to install Ubuntu 10.04 onto a USB HDD. It worked, but i've accidentally overwritten GRUB on the host PC (running 9.10). How can I restore it from the 9.10 live CD?
[13:34] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, ok, set the timezone correctly and you can sync your time with ntp, and i guess your cmos battery is low
[13:34] <geekphreak> i still think settings are messed, did you config port ok vianocturna85?
[13:34] <arvind_khadri> !lucid > chazco
[13:34] <Vigo> !grub | chazco
[13:34] <Kazz|Away> video driver question ... sys has onboard nvidia 9100 ... running ubuntu in a VM ... installed the addons. increased max res from 800x600 -> 1152x864 which is nice but want to go higher
[13:34] <chazco> arvind_khadri - I'm not using lucid (at least not for this), trying to fix 9.109 grub
[13:34] <booksbuggy> well the one i am suppose to select is new york and i selected it
[13:34] <chazco> Vigo - ah, thanks
[13:34] <vianocturna85> geekphreak: I'll be honest, i simply followed the instructions on gmail site, used that in Evolution, and left it at that
[13:35] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, well the time zone for me is suppose to be new york but it always keep the time 4 hours later though
[13:35] <geekphreak> vianocturna85:  ok
[13:35] <Shirl> hiyaz :)
[13:35] <geekphreak> vianocturna85:  tried thunderbird for test ;)
[13:35] <vianocturna85> geekphreak: It's annoying though, if i ask the helpdesk, they are like 'oh sorry you have linux, we cant help'
[13:35] <axisys> geekphreak: hey man i also found save as in ff let you save a html page with all links in a folder .. does same trick as webhttrack .. thanks for your help yesterday
[13:36] <vianocturna85> geekphreak: Tried that too, no avail
[13:36] <Vigo> chazco: arvind_khadri was quite correct, that is beta, so stuff breaks, use at your own level and risk.
[13:36] <geekphreak> axisys: welcome
[13:36] <Shirl> I'm trying unclutter in karmic as I have Firefox full-screen, because I am testing via remote desktop I cannot verify the mouse cursor is hidden
[13:36] <aar> Hi, complete noob question: I have two laptops (running Ubuntu Hardy) and have rather naively conected them together via an ethernet cable (with the hope of diong some file sharing between them). Am I barking up the wrong tree?
[13:36] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, in a terminal <<sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata>> , and also check if you are using UTC
[13:37] <Shirl> can anyone confirm the reason I still see the cursor is because of vnc?
[13:37] <maginot> vianocturna85, take a look at this, may help you someway: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[13:37] <chazco> Vigo - The instructions worked thanks... yep, i know it's beta but this request was all about 9.10 (10.04 was just mentioned as background)
[13:37] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, well i think somehow the ntp server wasn't installed
[13:37] <lfuser-041> xchat
[13:37] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, i just installed it
[13:38] <Vigo> chazco: Np, I am happy it is resolved.
[13:38] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, going to restart be back
[13:38] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, ok, and also check if you have ntc
[13:38] <Curly_Q> Vianocturna85 another thing to keep in mind that just because you can log onto any port at home, many IPs use their own ports. I had that happen with my IP. They never told me that Comcast SMTP port was on port 587.
[13:38] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, why do you have to restart ?? s/ntc/utc
[13:38] <Shirl> aar, i think it should work, at most you will need a cross-over cable
[13:38] <geekphreak> Curly_Q:  true
[13:38] <SeekTruth> just installed ubuntu.  Why does my laptop fan go beserk most of the time?  Never did that on Windows. Anyone know?
[13:38] <geekphreak> i think gmail use 465 for smtp
[13:39] <vianocturna85> Curly_Q: Thanks
[13:39] <Curly_Q> Your welcome.
[13:39] <norbi905> aar, provided it's a gig port you should be fine as they shoudl auto negotiate, otherwise a cross-over cable is required
[13:39] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, where is ntc suppose to be in?
[13:39] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, i meant utc
[13:39] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, oh
[13:39] <SeekTruth> when I installed Ubuntu, I chose YES to encrypt my home folder.  How can I kknow it's really encrypted?
[13:39] <Shirl> SeekTruth, have you updated since install?
[13:40] <SeekTruth> Shirl, yes, fully updated. why?
[13:40] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, then is that suppose to be in the boot folder?
[13:40] <geekphreak> SeekTruth: hello
[13:40] <SeekTruth> how can I install thunderbird?
[13:40] <Shirl> SeekTruth, my box does that before I updated my graphics chip driver, what gpu do you have?
[13:40] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: back at ya
[13:40] <maginot> vianocturna85, you probably could make some tests with nmap or telnet to see if the port is really blocked...
[13:41] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, what ? utc ? it must be in time settings
[13:41] <geekphreak> SeekTruth: sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[13:41] <aldanon> has anyone figured out how to get the proprietary ATI drivers working in 10.04?
[13:41] <aar> Shirl, how can I access the other laptop? Is there a DNS I should type in the browser? Or telnet...?
[13:41] <SeekTruth> Shirl: HP laptop, Nvidia 8400
[13:41] <Kazz|Away> whast alt-tab equivalent in ubuntu ?
[13:41] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  type that in terminal
[13:41] <Kazz|Away> whats*
[13:41] <OsamaK> How can I make a 'changeable background' similar to space backgrounds that comes in a group by default?
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> aldanon:  see #ubuntu+1 and the 10.04 forum threads - is the best answqer to find out.
[13:41] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: when I installed Ubuntu, I chose YES to encrypt my home folder.  How can I kknow it's really encrypted?
[13:42] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  open terminal type sudo mount
[13:42] <Shirl> SeekTruth, my box used nvidia 8900, before i installed the proprietary driver my fan was mad
[13:42] <SeekTruth> Shirl: what do I do?
[13:42] <aldanon> thanks willis
[13:42] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  it will show you it is encrypted
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> OsamaK:  there was some guides/tutorials/scripts for doing that. check my http://delicious.com/dr_willis tags/links - i recall bookmarking it. it was at  some ubuntu news/tutorial site
[13:42] <bjorn_> hi, I updated to Lucid beta 2. and it totally screwed my computer up. I'd like to do a clean install (format entire disk). can this process be started from within Ubuntu, because i dont find the CD bootable
[13:43] <OsamaK> Dr_Willis, What is it called?
[13:43] <geekphreak> bjorn cd would be nice
[13:43] <SeekTruth> geekphreak:  type ecryptfs.. does that mean its encrypted?
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> OsamaK:  no idea. all i did was bookmark the site i saw it at
[13:43] <Shirl> SeekTruth, check hardware drivers in admin
[13:43] <bjorn_> geekphreak, yea I got the CD. is it supposed to be bootable?
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> OsamaK:  thats why delicious.com uses tags :) to organize things.
[13:43] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, well seem like it was just because the ntp thing was not installed
[13:43] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  thats for your /home/username/.Private ?
[13:43] <SeekTruth> Shirl: how I install drivers for my onboard Nvidia 8400?
[13:44] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: yes
[13:44] <OsamaK> Dr_Willis, I don't use it.
[13:44] <bjorn_> because it doesn't really do anything when rebooting
[13:44] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: sound right?
[13:44] <geekphreak> bjorn_ yes ubuntu cd is bootable , mae sure cdrom is 1st boot device in BIOS
[13:44] <Curly_Q> Bjorn if you go to Barts Boot Disk do a Google on it you can download multiple floppy bootable disks that is if you have a floppy drive.
[13:44] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  its encrypted
[13:44] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, time is back to normal now
[13:44] <bjorn_> i believe it is, but im gonna restart and try again
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> bjorn_:  how did you burn the cd also?
[13:44] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, thank you for helping me
[13:44] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, :) when booting also check your system time, on shutdown, clock sync with system clock, i.e cmos
[13:44] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: so if someone steals my laptop, they can never access all files in my home?
[13:44] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, np
[13:45] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, first thing i adjusted was the bios time XD
[13:45] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  yep its a security  check, need  password ;)
[13:45] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, get your battery changed then maybe :)
[13:45] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: cool cause i have many private docs etc
[13:45] <Shirl> 1472 people in this channel?
[13:45] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: there will be another person using my laptop, shall I create a new user?
[13:46] <booksbuggy> why is this xchat messenger cutting the last word, or letters off O.O?!
[13:46] <dsl558> pirate docs?
[13:46] <Shirl> when i was here last year there was bearly 150
[13:46] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  kool, other good tools there too , which you can use within ubuntu to secure files
[13:46] <SeekTruth> Shirl: why wont u answer me?
[13:46] <Curly_Q> Good to see you Dr Willis. I hope you are having a nice day. Also glad to meet you GeekPhreak.   :)
[13:46] <bazhang> dsl558, what do you mean
[13:46] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: where good tools to secure?
[13:46] <Shirl> SeekTruth, i would reccomend samba
[13:46] <geekphreak> Curly_Q:  like :)
[13:46] <SeekTruth> Shirl: whats samba?
[13:47] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, this computer s pretty new so i don't think the battery is dead yet XD
[13:47] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, ok
[13:47] <dsl558> samba is far from security
[13:47] <SeekTruth> can I place my home on desktop?
[13:47] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  yup create a new account for other users, give him limited perm.
[13:47] <Shirl> SeekTruth, if you have files on on box you want to move to another, i would make a folder say, on the desktop of one, put the files i want to share in it, then right click on the folder and select share
[13:47] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, now i am going to check what the heck is up with this x chat messenger :P
[13:47] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  samba aint for security, its for file sharing
[13:47] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, cutting offf lettersa nd words in sentences
[13:48] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  you need something  like cryptkeeper
[13:48] <topland> hi
[13:48] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: lets say the other user accesses bad websites, porm websites etc... can he infect my username too?
[13:48] <lfuser-041> hi
[13:48] <arvind_khadri> booksbuggy, check your preferences and stuff
[13:48] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  it iant windows lol
[13:48] <geekphreak> aint*
[13:48] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: i thought u said my HOME was enrypted, so why I need cryptkeeper?
[13:48] <topland> any one can help me for install in openmoko on ubuntu
[13:49] <Curly_Q> SeekTruth, most malicious web sites such as porn sites are focused on Windows applications.
[13:49] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  it is, just incase if you want other user to have same account, you can use cryptkeeper to password locked r  custom files/folder
[13:49] <SeekTruth> Curly_Q: so my other user cannot infect me at all even if he visited very nasty porn websites?
[13:50] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: why?  can they infect me?
[13:50] <arvind_khadri> topland, openmoko was a open source project with Linux as the OS for mobile. afaik its not a package
[13:50] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, feels strange when i start this thing up in chinese XD
[13:50] <geekphreak> nope SeekTruth
[13:50] <booksbuggy> arvind_khadri, okey dokey i am off later
[13:50] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: can I place a link to my HOME on the deskstop?
[13:50] <Curly_Q> SeekTruth, let us put this way, If you have any user, that is considered a SHELL account. True? OK then it is isolated from the root shell.
[13:51] <topland> arvind_khadri i have install openmoko but now want able to connect with pc any more
[13:51] <SeekTruth> Curly_Q: eh? :P
[13:51] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  you sure can
[13:51] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: how? :P
[13:51] <arvind_khadri> topland, you mean you have a openmoko phone and you want to connect to the pc ?
[13:51] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  you can create it manually :p or use tools like gtweakui :p
[13:52] <geekphreak> be right back
[13:52] <topland> yes arvin_khadri
[13:52] <Curly_Q> One of the nice advantages of a user account even in Windows is that it is isolated from Root or Administrator privileges.
[13:52] <arvind_khadri> topland, you can use wammu/gaamu
[13:52] <Shirl> how can i hid the mouse pointer when firefox is in full screen?
[13:52] <topland> from where i can get that
[13:53] <Curly_Q> If a user account gets a virus, just delete the account and create a new account or in Linux a new user or shell.
[13:53] <jrib> Shirl: not exactly what you asked but look at unclutter
[13:53] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: how I create it manusally?
[13:53] <arvind_khadri> topland, from the ubuntu repository, <<sudo aptitude install wammu>> do that in a terminal
[13:53] <Shirl> jrib, i tried unclutter, doesnt seem to work
[13:54] <jrib> Shirl: how did you try?
[13:54] <Shirl> jrib, unclutter -display :0.0 -idle 2
[13:54] <Shirl> jrib, but i am accessing that box via vnc
[13:54] <Curly_Q> By way of proper permissions a user or any account cannot cause a virus if root is isolated.
[13:54] <jrib> Shirl: I see
[13:55] <Shirl> jrib, i dont have a screen for it yet
[13:56] <topland> thanks sir arvind_khadri
[13:56] <arvind_khadri> topland, np, am not sir!! :)
[13:57] <Curly_Q> Shirl, why would you not want to see the mouse pointer when using VNC? Is it that you don't want anyone to see your activities?
[13:57] <SeekTruth> I have a text file on my desktop,  but whenever I click to open it, a window pops up asking if i want to run the file or open it.  How can I stop this annoying box?
[13:59] <Curly_Q> SeekTruth, it just may be that the .txt file is not a .txt but an .exe file.
[13:59] <SeekTruth> Curly_Q: no. its called data.txt
[13:59] <indus> SeekTruth, yeah its a linux thing, change in properties
[13:59] <SeekTruth> Curly_Q: how do I tell Ubuntu to open it as text?
[13:59] <Bohemian> how hard is setting up cvs?
[13:59] <SeekTruth> indus: what properties where?
[13:59] <Curly_Q> SeekTruth the next thing is that rename the .txt to .doc and see if that works.
[14:00] <indus> SeekTruth, are you on windows?
[14:00] <SeekTruth> indus: ubuntu
[14:00] <indus> SeekTruth, so if you set file of that type to open with something, it probably wont ask you again
[14:00] <Curly_Q> Drag that file to Gnome text reader.
[14:01] <SeekTruth> Curly_Q: that was bad idea :( now it opens in openoffice which I dont want
[14:01] <indus> SeekTruth, so otherwise it opens with terminal or can run if its a script etc
[14:01] <geekphreak> back
[14:01] <SeekTruth> indus: i did, but its still asking
[14:01] <Curly_Q> Open Office is a great program. That was my next suggestion.
[14:02] <Shirl> Curly_Q, soz the phone went, <rolls-eyes> NO, I intend to have a display, i have made webpages and have firefox add-on to make it full-screen but the stoopid mouse pointer is visible right in the middle of my wonderful display
[14:02] <Curly_Q> Check file permissions.
[14:02] <Kasm279> was the i865 graphicsc bug un-broken in karmic?
[14:02] <SeekTruth> Curly_Q: I fixed it.. I right click on txt file, chose properties and unselected the "execute"
[14:02] <Curly_Q> Glad to see that SeekTruth.  :)
[14:03] <SeekTruth> indus: fixed
[14:03] <indus> SeekTruth, yeah i told u its there
[14:03] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  are you running ubuntu for first time?
[14:03] <SeekTruth> indus: no u didnt say to unselect "execute" lol
[14:03] <indus> yeah
[14:03] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: just installed it
[14:03] <indus> somewhere in properties though so its fine
[14:03] <indus> :D
[14:03] <Curly_Q> Shirl, is this program like a screen recorder?
[14:04] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  welcome to ubuntu side ;)
[14:04] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: tossed vista.  But now I have challenges... now I cannot play BF2142, cannot access my mobile phone and my webcam :P
[14:04] <Shirl> Curly_Q, no, this karmic box i am setting up, has no monitor currently, when i drag it down stairs to the pet shop i will plug in the hdtv
[14:05] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: and now I cannot dial out using my VOIP :P
[14:05] <Kasm279> SeekTruth: instal wine
[14:05] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  i can do 2 of the things you said :p
[14:05] <SeekTruth> Kasm279: ive heard bad things about wine.
[14:05] <Kasm279> such as?
[14:05] <Shirl> Curly_Q, then all the box will do is boot up, into karmic, firefox loads from start and goes full screen
[14:05] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: which 2?
[14:05] <indus> wine is just an experiment really
[14:05] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  run cam and use mobile
[14:05] <Curly_Q> Shirl, I have a storage bin with plenty of monitors. Where do you live? I am from Massachusetts.
[14:05] <indus> use windows xp for native work
[14:06] <Shirl> Manchester curly lulz
[14:06] <Shirl> uk.
[14:06] <shab1> what software 3d cad for linux?
[14:06] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: i have a DATA SIM in my mobile which dials out using a Windows application.. which I now cannot instlal in ubuntu :P
[14:06] <indus> shab1, none or blender
[14:06] <indus> shab1, www.blenderproject.org
[14:06] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  beat the mobile company for not making linux drivers :p
[14:06] <indus> shab1, very good indeed but not for parametric / engineering work
[14:07] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: sadly I may need to go back to windows.. cause I need my VOIP and mobile phone access
[14:07] <indus> shab1, but similar to alias,3d studio
[14:07] <Curly_Q> UK. Wow!  No monitors there Shirl?   hehe  :)
[14:07] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  choose what works for you ,
[14:07] <shab1> ok
[14:07] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: ye
[14:07] <neure> what is the correct way to add mounts?
[14:08] <indus> neure, what kind of mounts
[14:08] <neure> i have /dev/sdb with two partitions, usb sd card reader
[14:08] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: are there any free online multiplayer games on Ubuntu?
[14:08] <indus> neure, permanent mounting should be added to /etc/fstab including nfs mounts
[14:08] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  i dont game sorry
[14:08] <indus> neure, also with proper flags
[14:08] <Shirl> what kinda games you like SeekTruth ?
[14:09] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: wise girl ;)
[14:09] <neure> just nano /etc/fstab?
[14:09] <indus> SeekTruth, quake live, nexuiz , open arena , alien arena
[14:09] <indus> neure, yeah
[14:09] <SeekTruth> shift: battlefield 2142, chess.
[14:09] <geekphreak> girl??
[14:09] <geekphreak> man you been working a lot with wine :p
[14:09] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: you not a girl?
[14:09] <OsamaK> SeekTruth, We're about community, we develop what we want to use. If you think we need free software games on GNU/Linux, then please go and contribute to projects that aim to do so.
[14:09] <geekphreak> girl named geekphreak
[14:09] <Curly_Q> Shirl, VNC seems your best option at this point. I believe that most VNC programs have somewhere an option to hide the mouse arrow or cursor.
[14:09] <SeekTruth> OsamaK: everyone been really nice to me and helpful. my first day using ubuntu, and then you come along and are rude. oh well
[14:10] <Shirl> Curly_Q, i tried that and the cursor don't hide, but thanx
[14:10] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  what?
[14:10] <SeekTruth> i read on a webpage that there is a free online and multiplayer game on ubuntu.  shoot others :)
[14:10] <OsamaK> SeekTruth, I'm not. People say to you go and use big corporation dirty games, I say don't.
[14:10] <Curly_Q> I suppose Shirl that in that situation you would be in CONSOLE MODE. Check that out.
[14:11] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: I thought u were a girl, my bad.
[14:11] <indus> SeekTruth, i gave you the names already , did you see
[14:11] <SeekTruth> indus: sorry missed it
[14:11] <Shirl> SeekTruth, I have Unreal2004, Evil Genius, SecondLife, Final Fantasy XI, Star Trek Online and more all on my ubuntu box :P
[14:11] <indus> SeekTruth, quake live, nexuiz , open arena , alien arena
[14:11] <Kasm279> SeekTruth: just search FPS in the Add/Remove applications
[14:11] <Shirl> Curly_Q, will do
[14:11] <geekphreak> i got gnuchess lol
[14:11] <SeekTruth> Shirl: wow, how they run on Ubuntu? through Wine?
[14:11] <indus> SeekTruth, except quake live all are in synaptic
[14:11] <mbutubuntu> hello folks, I need to run Ubuntu Server 9.10 as a guest in a paravirtualized XEN enviroment, the problem is that I can't run the live cdrom, I need a bootable "trunk" accessible via ftp or http... can you help me?
[14:12] <Shirl> SeekTruth, yessir, well plyaonlinux, but SL is natively linux
[14:12] <Curly_Q> Shirl I had this problem once with an old Windows box. I did not have a mouse. I had to use the TAB keys for all of the commands and the up and down right and left arrows and then Enter commands.
[14:12] <SeekTruth> Shirl: whats plyaonlinux?
[14:12] <SeekTruth> Kasm279: I dont see "Add/Remove applications" anywhere,.wher eis that?
[14:13] <maginot> mbutubuntu, well, if I remember ubuntu server isn't live...
[14:13] <indus> SeekTruth, ubuntu software center\
[14:13] <Shirl> SeekTruth, its like a wine version manager, say if you want more than one proggy to work with wine, but different proggys need different versions of wine, the playonlinux manages versions for yoiu
[14:13] <Kasm279> SeekTruth: the ubuntu logo menu
[14:13] <SeekTruth> indus: ok
[14:13] <OsamaK> SeekTruth, The reason Ubuntu was built is to have control over your computer. We achieve many of our goals, but not games. Instead of using these games, let's build our own, after all, we built a complete operating system.
[14:13] <indus> OsamaK, who is 'we'\
[14:13] <SeekTruth> Shirl: is playonlinux expensive to buy?
[14:13] <Kasm279> SeekTruth: personally i love Tremulous
[14:13] <neure> so what flags etc. should i give for sdcard?
[14:13] <OsamaK> indus, the free software community.
[14:13] <SeekTruth> OsamaK: ok
[14:13] <Curly_Q> Otherwise Shirl, you may have to use   Mental Telepathy      <--------------------<    hehe
[14:14] <Kasm279> SeekTruth: give it a try :)
[14:14] <mbutubuntu> maginot, sorry, i didn't want to say LIVE, I mean Installable cd
[14:14] <neure> can i just plug/unplug sdcards in linux?
[14:14] <SeekTruth> ok. do I now need to install or activate a firewall?
[14:14] <Shirl> SeekTruth,  its in the ubuntu repo's but i recommend  you download it
[14:14] <SeekTruth> Kasm279: ok I will. I can play online against others?
[14:14] <indus> OsamaK, we have games if you arent aware yet
[14:14] <Kazz|Away> trying to change resolution on ubuntu running in a VM ... added the vboxadditions and it allowed 1152x864 for a while then restarted the VM and now i cant get the 1152*864 back. stuck with 800*600/640*480 ... any suggestions ?
[14:14] <Hylian> does anyone know if the driver provided by ati for the x1300 can function in 9.10? it couldnt in 8.10 to 9.04...
[14:14] <maginot> mbutubuntu, I don't know if there are anything else, but maybe this can help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick ?
[14:14] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  firewall is built in
[14:14] <Kasm279> SeekTruth: yeah
[14:14] <mbutubuntu> maginot, not not
[14:14] <Kasm279> SeekTruth: read about it in the siftware center
[14:15] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: so I dont need to turn on firewall or anything?  its on by default?
[14:15] <mbutubuntu> maginot, it's the same
[14:15] <indus> OsamaK,he is talking about which games run on ubuntu even though his question sounds like 'does ubuntu have games'
[14:15] <Kasm279> its muiplayer only actually
[14:15] <SeekTruth> Kasm279: cool
[14:15] <Shirl> SeekTruth, there is a knack to getting windows proggys to work with wine, playonlinux has may wizards for some proggys, but to find out if you can run a windows proggy in wine then visit the winehq website
[14:15] <OsamaK> indus, Well, I'm not interested, so yeah, I'm probably not aware.   I think I have ext4 file system?
[14:16] <Hylian> anyone know if the ati fglrx driver for the x1300 can function in 9.10?
[14:16] <maginot> mbutubuntu, well, I guess you could install ubuntu at someplace and make a img to boot from network, I'm using LTSP for pxe boot on my boxes
[14:16] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  lol no you dont
[14:16] <indus> Hylian, it wont
[14:16] <Pici> Hylian: It cannot, you must used the open source driver.
[14:16] <neothecat> good morning. i have "/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java" has my java selection.  but whenever i run netbeans, i uses openjdk.  does anyone know what i did wrong?
[14:16] <SeekTruth> Shirl: so playonlinux is like wine but better?
[14:16] <Kazz|Away> Curly_Q ... did you have the right Ka ???
[14:17] <norbi905> mbutubuntu, LTSP works fine out of the box for PXE boot, give it a try
[14:17] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: so I never have to defrag ever?
[14:17] <OsamaK> indus, It is all wrong and unethical, Ubuntu operating system is a platform, Ubuntu project is (or 'supposed to be') a free software-only project.
[14:17] <Shirl> SeekTruth, it is a wine version manager so you kinda right
[14:17] <hellz_bellz> what is the command to upgrade to the new ubuntu beta?
[14:17] <mbutubuntu> ok
[14:17] <maginot> SeekTruth, just keep the system update to avoid any exploit =)
[14:17] <Hylian> indus thanx. i was hoping it would. i am still being forced to use pclinuxos 2009. not my first choice, but it uses my ati driver. :(
[14:17] <Pici> hellz_bellz: See the topic in #ubuntu+1
[14:17] <SeekTruth> maginot: :)
[14:17] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  nope , not on linux
[14:17] <norbi905> mbutubuntu, I believe Ubuntu server has it build in as well, not sure though
[14:17] <Curly_Q> Kazz|Away I used that command years ago with Red Hat.
[14:17] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: wow awesome.. used to hate having to defrag
[14:18] <Kazz|Away> wrong kazz :>
[14:18] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: what about when I delete files?  are they securely deleted, or I need a secure file wipe program?
[14:18] <indus> Hylian, because older chips are no longer supported , but unless you game, the open source driver works great
[14:18] <Shirl> Curly_Q, i remember when i were younger, a mouse was a luxury
[14:18] <Kasm279> lol
[14:18] <geekphreak> seek you can use wipe progra from linux, it can be downlaoded
[14:18] <maginot> SeekTruth, search for wipe
[14:18] <Kasm279> who uses mice?
[14:18] <hellz_bellz> would anyone here know of any free milservers I can host my domainname on to forward mail to my personal mail server becuase i use mercury mail server and i cant run two OS's on this comp at once lol
[14:18] <Curly_Q> Lol Shirl.   :)
[14:19] <SeekTruth> so the ubuntu delete dont wipe the files properly and someone can undelete the files?
[14:19] <Hylian> indus, i tried the open source driver, made the screen funky and continuously crashed the pc.
[14:19] <maginot> SeekTruth, "apt-get install wipe" its what you need
[14:19] <indus> Hylian, hmm shouldnt , it works nice with x 1300
[14:19] <Curly_Q> Kazz|Away take a look at this site also Shirl.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_keyboard_shortcuts
[14:19] <indus> Hylian, well, difficult to trouble shoot these things
[14:19] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  by default yes, but you can use wipe tools, it a ll free
[14:19] <neure> http://pastie.org/911412
[14:19] <SeekTruth> maginot: so a file can be undeleted if I dont use wipe?
[14:19] <neure> do the last two entries look ok?
[14:20] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: so how would I undelete a file then?
[14:20] <geekphreak> like you do on windows :p
[14:20] <maginot> SeekTruth, that depends on the wipe level you make, most times it will be unrecoverable
[14:20] <Pici> !undelete | SeekTruth
[14:20] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: so if I delete a file and empty the bin, I can still undelete the file?
[14:20] <Hylian> indus, maybe ill try it again then, maybe something happened since 9.04. but since windows with my driver and pclinuxos09 with the linux ati driver both work without hiccups, and then ubuntu with the open source driver is buggior than a swamp, i assumed it was the opensource driver
[14:21] <SeekTruth> Pici: I use ext4 i think, not ext3
[14:21] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  you can use tools
[14:21] <maginot> SeekTruth, if you install wipe you can delete a file with "wipe -Q 7 <file>"
[14:21] <SeekTruth> k
[14:21] <geekphreak> pici ty for links :)
[14:21] <indus> Hylian, oh a lot has changed since 9.04 the drivers are much improved
[14:21] <switchgirl> !lucid
[14:21] <ech0Asus> anyone have a google voice account? i want an invite :(
[14:21] <norbi905> SeekTruth, a file is never deleted from the drive unless you overwrite that part with random data a few times... regardless of OS
[14:22] <bazhang> ech0Asus, offtopic here
[14:22] <indus> Hylian, try 10.04 beta 2 :)
[14:22] <Hylian> indus, thats great news.  I just cant live without pc halting bugs.
[14:22] <indus> Hylian, you can play games too except a few like quake 4
[14:22] <maginot> norbi905, that is the function of wipe, Q option tell how many passes it must do over the file =) 7 is know to be secure.
[14:22] <SeekTruth> if someone boots my laptop with a CD and then reads my Ubuntu partition, can they access and read my files in my HOME folder?  I chose to encrypt my home folder during installation, so its all encrypted when ubuntu isnt loaded, right?
[14:23] <indus> Hylian, also with tthe open source driver you get a nice graphical boot experience etc
[14:23] <theadmin> SeekTruth: Yep
[14:23] <erUSUL> SeekTruth: correct
[14:23] <Hylian> indus thats impressive, because in 9.04, the open source driver could barely run the pc. Happy happy joy joy, LOL
[14:23] <indus> Hylian, flicker free boot by april release of 10.04
[14:23] <SeekTruth> cool
[14:23] <SeekTruth> im starting to like Ubuntu :)
[14:23] <Kasm279> speaking of graphics
[14:23] <norbi905> maginot, sorry, didn't read your reply, kinda in and out of the chat :) you are right
[14:23] <Kasm279> was the i865 graphicsc bug un-broken in karmic?
[14:23] <Shirl> Curly_Q, wow thats a stunning table, I dont think i explained my problem too well lulz, mouse works fine, i just wish i could make the pointer disappear
[14:24] <SeekTruth> theadmin: so they can still read my files in HOME even though I chose to encrypt my home folder?
[14:24] <Hylian> indus thanks man!
[14:24] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  stay with it then dude, you are gonna like it :)
[14:24] <OsamaK> So any idea how to make a group of changeable backgrounds similar to the space one available by default?
[14:24] <indus> Hylian, np
[14:24] <geekphreak> theadmin: howdy boy :)
[14:24] <SeekTruth> erUSUL: are you answering "correct" to my question "if someone boots my laptop with a CD and then reads my Ubuntu partition, can they access and read my files in my HOME folder?"
[14:24] <theadmin> geekphreak: ohai
[14:24] <indus> whats google voice btw
[14:24] <theadmin> SeekTruth: Err, they won't be able to do so if it's encrypted
[14:24] <SeekTruth> theadmin: ok u confused me :P
[14:25] <Kuifje111> SeekTruth: yes, they can.
[14:25] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  your is encrypted due, so they wont relax
[14:25] <SeekTruth> Kuifje111: they can?  so whats the use of encryption?
[14:25] <Kasm279> indus: a chat app
[14:25] <kernel_geek> Where is the xorg.conf located on newer version of ubunut. Its not in /etc/X11/ anymore ?
[14:25] <erUSUL> SeekTruth: so its all encrypted  when ubuntu isnt loaded, right?
[14:25] <xomp> anyone know the ubuntu equivilant of 'iptables -L' ?
[14:25] <Kasm279> with VOIP
[14:25] <erUSUL> SeekTruth: so its all encrypted  when ubuntu isnt loaded, right? <<< correct
[14:25] <Kuifje111> SeekTruth: they cant if its encrypted though.
[14:25] <theadmin> kernel_geek: Ubuntu does NOT use this file anymore unless it's created explicitly
[14:25] <SeekTruth> ok excellent :-)
[14:25] <indus> kernel_geek, its there but empty these days , hardly used
[14:25] <SeekTruth> in case it gets stolen etc,, want all my personal files safe
[14:26] <kernel_geek> theadmin: okay where can I alter settings ?
[14:26] <SeekTruth> so I dont need to install truecrypt now?
[14:26] <theadmin> kernel_geek: You can explicitly create this file if you need :D
[14:26] <erUSUL> SeekTruth: no
[14:26] <geekphreak> SeekTruth: it is upto you
[14:26] <SeekTruth> erUSUL: ok
[14:26] <maginot> kernel_geek, X11 now auto configures your X server ,so only create a xorg.conf if you need some special
[14:26] <Curly_Q> Shirl, I understand what you are talking about, I was just sharing a cool link with you.
[14:26] <theadmin> xomp: Uh, that works perfectly on Ubuntu
[14:26] <kernel_geek> this annoys me, what reason would they have to take it away other than "they can"
[14:26] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  normally you are ok
[14:26] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: why would I need it if HOME is already encrypted?
[14:27] <zamba> i can't get oidentd binding to my ipv6 address in ubuntu karmic
[14:27] <kernel_geek> maginot: So I can just add sections I need, I dont need to right a whole config ?
[14:27] <xomp> theadmin, I'm getting "-bash: iptables: command not found" when doing so from the console as root
[14:27] <zamba> it works just fine in intrepid
[14:27] <geekphreak> SeekTruth:  if more people use same account, then other tools come to picture
[14:27] <Kasm279> kernel_geek: yeah
[14:27] <Fernin> Question: PulseAudio in 9.10 seems to stop sending audio from an application to my soundcard if the application is open for a long period of time. Example: Firefox is left open over night with Pandora or a Youtube page.  Anyone have a solution?
[14:27] <maginot> kernel_geek, you can see what your X11 is using reading /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:27] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: only I will use this account, but im adding another user
[14:27] <indus> SeekTruth, if you encrypt home , ill let you know its not easy to recover if something goes wrong
[14:27] <theadmin> xomp: Uh, works for me :/
[14:27] <SeekTruth> indus: ok
[14:28] <maginot> kernel_geek, yes you can just add the section you need, indeed. If you needa full xorg.conf use X -configure
[14:28] <geekphreak> indus:  he has ecnryption on $HOME
[14:28] <indus> well, forget the password and get sc****ed
[14:28] <theadmin> xomp: http://pastebin.com/u1ttj9Nq
[14:28] <SeekTruth> indus: I will backup Ubuntu regularly. I own Acronis Trueimage
[14:28] <geekphreak> lol
[14:28] <maginot> xomp, iptables is inside /sbin, which you may need access as root (sudo -i )
[14:29] <xomp> maginot, root@ubuntu:~# sudo iptables -L
[14:29] <xomp> sudo: iptables: command not found
[14:29] <geekphreak> indus:  you are right, i remeber happened to me :)
[14:29] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: yeah it says, "/home/seektruth/.Private on /home/seektruth type ecryptfs (ecryptfs_sig=jfdkfjdj998493kjkjkjkjf
[14:29] <maginot> xomp, have you installed iptables ? ;D
[14:29] <xomp> maginot, lol no
[14:29] <xomp> I thought it was standard
[14:29] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: when I type sudo mount
[14:29] <geekphreak> SeekTruth: ok
[14:29] <maginot> xomp, apt-get install iptables
[14:29] <maginot> :)
[14:30] <xomp> thanks, sorry for the stupid question hah
[14:30] <SeekTruth> geekphreak: so its encrypted :)
[14:30] <maginot> np
[14:30] <theadmin> Okay, i want to block host x with iptables. How to?
[14:30] <Shirl> Curly_Q, oh fphew! lulz
[14:30] <maginot> theadmin, that depends, block what, from which direction
[14:30] <Curly_Q> Who was asking about monitor resolution?   There is a program called Xvidtune that works nicely. It must be used with much caution though.
[14:30] <SeekTruth> anyone use rkhunter? saw it on a website
[14:30] <theadmin> maginot: Say, block all outgoing connections to example.net
[14:30] <Kazz|Away> I was but ...
[14:30] <Kazz|Away> now it allows me to stretch the VM window
[14:31] <maginot> theadmin, outgoing from the iptables server or from a network which the iptables redirects ?
[14:31] <Kazz|Away> and it shows in the settings what the resolution is
[14:31] <Kazz|Away> * shrug *
[14:31] <maginot> theadmin, iptables -I OUTPUT -d example.net -j DENY or iptables -I FORWARD -d example.net -j DENY
[14:31] <Curly_Q> Oh yes, Kazz|Away  Xvidtune. I am not sure that it is supported though.
[14:31] <maginot> theadmin, but keep in mind that example.net will be converted to an IP address from the time you issue the rule
[14:31] <theadmin> maginot: uh... %) From the same comp on which iptablez is installed. So which one
[14:32] <maginot> theadmin, you must deny on OUTPUT chain
[14:32] <geekphreak> catch you all later peeps, have a good one :)
[14:32] <theadmin> maginot: Makes perfect sense except one thing. Uh. Why on earth is everything written in caps?
[14:32] <SeekTruth> when I want to remove a USB stick, do I choose eject or unmount?
[14:33] <hydester> i have an intel pentium dual T2310.  the intel specs say it is 64-bit.  the ISO image are for AMD64 and x86.  how does intel 64-bit get utilized?  i am currently running Jaunty and i am trying to figure out if it is using 64-bit
[14:33] <maginot> theadmin, not everything, just the chains, and the target (which may be a chain)
[14:33] <theadmin> maginot: I see %) And the rule (DENY)
[14:33] <Curly_Q> Kazz|Away I must caution you that anytime you use any software or drivers to change your video resolution, you can damage your monitor.   Install vlc or other method?
[14:34] <theadmin> okay it's confusing. Is there any iptables GUI?
[14:34] <SeekTruth> theadmin: when I want to remove a USB stick, do I choose eject or unmount?
[14:34] <theadmin> SeekTruth: vlc has all codecs, you can also install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[14:34] <theadmin> SeekTruth: Will act the same. No idea why nautilus shows both.
[14:34] <SeekTruth> theadmin: how do I install install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package?
[14:34] <maginot> theadmin, this is the rule "-I OUTPUT -d example.net -j DENY" with is the same as "-t filter -I OUTPUT -d example.net -j DENY"
[14:34] <Kazz|Away> running ubuntu in a VM ... i doubt ill stress the monitor as ubunut isnt maxing out
[14:35] <theadmin> SeekTruth: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras... are you new to Linux?
[14:35] <maginot> theadmin, maybe there is something, but I really can't tell you, never used gui for iptables
[14:35] <SeekTruth> theadmin: my first day
[14:35] <hydester> theadmin: firestarter is an iptables GUI
[14:35] <theadmin> hydester: A bad one :P It crashes nm-applet
[14:35] <SeekTruth> theadmin: ok. i typed "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[14:35] <hydester> theadmin: how about using ufw?
[14:36] <hydester> theadmin: not as a gui, but to make it easier
[14:36] <theadmin> SeekTruth: Where did you type it?
[14:36] <SeekTruth> hydester: why? firewall is already on by default
[14:36] <PapaGoose> hi all!
[14:36] <SeekTruth> theadmin: in terminal
[14:36] <Curly_Q> Kazz|Away I am a Licensed Master Technician in Radio and Television. I have many degrees in Physics and Electrical and Electronic Engineering. Just make sure you follow the manufactures instructions though.
[14:36] <PapaGoose> does anyone know how to set a process to idle priority in ubuntu 9.04?
[14:36]  * maginot don't like those "firewalls" wanna be, I prefer the good and solid iptables
[14:36] <SeekTruth> theadmin: is that the place I should type it?
[14:36] <theadmin> SeekTruth: That goes to a terminal :P And then we hit Enter, if it asks us whether we want to continue, we type "y" and then enter again
[14:37] <BCI> bom dia
[14:37] <bazhang> !br | BCI
[14:37] <theadmin> PapaGoose: I think something like this will work: killall -s STOP processname
[14:37] <bonez2046> how can I refresh the sound driver?
[14:37] <hydester> SeekTruth: what firewall is on by default?
[14:37] <classical> Hey all
[14:37] <bonez2046> sound worked yesterday when I was on my 9.10 desktop and now, nothing
[14:38] <classical> need some help
[14:38] <theadmin> classical: What with?
[14:38] <xomp> maginot, would you happen to know how I could allow a program (in my case srcds) to have only  write access to a handfull of directories and read-only for everything else? I have no GUI and will be doing it all via console :3
[14:38] <classical> i have got only 1.3 gb of space
[14:38] <classical> on my hdd
[14:38] <classical> and i want to install ubuntu
[14:38] <classical> mini version or something
[14:38] <theadmin> xomp: Create a user which has access only to those dirs, and run this program as that user
[14:39] <SeekTruth> hydester: Ubuntu comes with firewall on by default.
[14:39] <tHW> geekphreak: Arvind is MIA
[14:39] <Curly_Q> I must go for a while all you good folks. Hope to see you soon. Take care Shirl and Kazz|Away and all else.  :)
[14:39] <theadmin> classical: Hm. Dunno even... Maybe #! will do... (Not sure how much space it takes though)
[14:39] <classical> http://pud-linux.sourceforge.net/index.en.html  i find this but i dont like this distro
[14:39] <SeekTruth> hydester: why you need firestarter? its just a gui for the firewall.  I just read about it :)
[14:39] <Shirl> laterz curly
[14:39] <xomp> theadmin, what if I have a user already created that's apart from admin, can I change their access via the console to allow this instead of creating a whole new user?
[14:39] <Curly_Q> ;)
[14:39] <SeekTruth> Curly_Q: nite
[14:40] <classical> theadmin, I just wanna original Ubuntu Iso without open office and Other stuff
[14:40] <Curly_Q> Good to see you again SeekTruth. Take care.
[14:40] <SeekTruth> Curly_Q: ;)
[14:40] <theadmin> xomp: Sure thingy %) read the following: man chmod and man chown
[14:40] <theadmin> classical: hm, we have some minimal ISO, no idea what it is though
[14:41] <classical> theadmin, what kinda of minimal iso can you link it please ?
[14:41] <PapaGoose> theadmin: what does the STOP signal actually do? is that temporarily halting execution, or running it in otherwise idle CPU time?
[14:41] <xomp> theadmin, is it noob friendly? I barely know what I'm doing hah
[14:41] <classical> theadmin, I have already seen this http://fluxbuntu.org/  but im kinda in doubt
[14:41] <theadmin> PapaGoose: It's halting it until you issue the CONT signal
[14:41] <theadmin> xomp: More or less
[14:42] <theadmin> classical: Don't use that, it's dead.
[14:42] <SeekTruth> xomp: welcome to the club :)
[14:42] <hydester> SeekTruth: funny, i never noticed any firewall on by default.  that is, it wasn't blocking anything by default.  i was just suggesting firestarter as a GUI.  i thought theadmin was asking.  i misread what he said.
[14:42] <theadmin> There is no firewall apart from iptables by default
[14:42] <maginot> xomp, what theadmin is telling you is the best approach.. I would prefer still creating a group and changing the directory group for the one created, and put the user that runs your application inside that group, this will make only users from that group to have access to the directory
[14:42] <hydester> theadmin: is it allowing all by default?
[14:42] <SeekTruth> hydester: i was told that firewall is already blocking everything, because no ports are being listened to
[14:42] <theadmin> hydester: Yes
[14:43] <maginot> theadmin, I think ubuntu come with ufw, but never used it
[14:43] <SeekTruth> theadmin: are u saying we need to install a firewall?
[14:43] <theadmin> SeekTruth: Not at all, unless you want to block access somewhere
[14:43] <classical> theadmin, so what to do ? :-(  do you have any suggestion ?
[14:43] <PapaGoose> theadmin: hmm not quite then. is there something like idprio on BSD that could be used? i'm trying to make it so that all other processes have complete priority over a small set of CPU intensive tasks, and setting priority 19 doesn't seem to be quite enough
[14:43] <aloprot> I've purge some files like pppoeconf....my network manager is grey(not working) how do i repair that?
[14:43] <SeekTruth> theadmin: do I need to block something for security reasons?
[14:44] <chao06> is there a way I can have nm-applet, gnome-volume-control-applet and gnome-power-manager independent of the notification area?
[14:44] <theadmin> SeekTruth: Nah
[14:44] <SeekTruth> whats a good music player with playlists etc?
[14:44] <theadmin> PapaGoose: There is "nice" thing but... Not sure how to use it
[14:44] <aloprot> i can't have an internet connection no more because i purged pppoeconf...and network manager has conflicts:|
[14:44] <theadmin> SeekTruth: try vlc
[14:45] <SeekTruth> theadmin: besides vlc :P
[14:45] <SeekTruth> dont ubuntu have a cool player, like winamp for windows?
[14:45] <theadmin> SeekTruth: Well, never even used anything apart from it because it's coolish
[14:45] <Kuifje111> SeekTruth: VLC.
[14:45] <overmind> SeekTruth: mplayer
[14:45] <chao06> SeekTruth: xmms
[14:45] <theadmin> Winamp? Meh
[14:45] <xomp> Winamp is so 1990
[14:45] <xomp> :3
[14:46] <PapaGoose> theadmin: ah right, well thanks for the advice :) i'm currently using nice to lower the priority of those tasks, but i might now try using ulimit to boost the priority of everything else
[14:46] <SeekTruth> xomp: the same year you were born? ;)
[14:46] <xomp> lol no, 1978 for this old man :P
[14:46] <chao06> SeekTruth: you'll have to dig through old repositories for dependencies, but xmms is the best and closest to winamp you'll get
[14:46] <SeekTruth> so VLC is the closest I will get to winamp?
[14:46] <SeekTruth> chao06: ah ok
[14:46] <erUSUL> !info audacious | SeekTruth
[14:46] <Kuifje111> SeekTruth: you could try WINE and winamp if you really want to use winamp.
[14:47] <bazhang> chao06, xmms is replaced with audacious
[14:47] <SeekTruth> what I love about Ubuntu is I can install anything from repos, play around with it, and if I dont like it, just remove... not like windows where programs leave traces behind and screws the system up
[14:47] <chao06> SeekTruth: audacious is decended from xmms, but it's slow and crashy
[14:47] <PapaGoose> SeekTruth: what's with rhythmbox or amarok?
[14:47] <hydester> is amarok any good for music?
[14:47] <Zider> audacious is nice
[14:47] <SeekTruth> chao06: so you recommend  xmms?
[14:47] <theadmin> amarok takes a friggin' minute to just start up
[14:47] <SeekTruth> over audacious?
[14:47] <Zider> amarok is bloated, but nice if you have a huuge collection
[14:47] <SeekTruth> theadmin: hehe
[14:48] <erUSUL> !xmms | SeekTruth
[14:48] <PapaGoose> i would use rhythmbox because its got a nice interface and its pretty fast
[14:48] <maginot> SeekTruth, xmms is gone now, you can use vlc, rhythmbox, juk or something like this
[14:48] <PapaGoose> but i use amarok at the moment because rhythmbox can't output optical audio
[14:48] <chao06> SeekTruth: absolutely... audacious is bloated, especially for the function it serves... and xmms2 doesn't work the same way
[14:48] <SeekTruth> whats xmms2 like then?
[14:48] <SeekTruth> chao06: so what do you use?
[14:48] <sinistrad> !lucid
[14:49] <SeekTruth> chao06: so audacious crashes on you a lot?
[14:49] <classical> I have 1.3 gb hdd but my pc is not weak just got a small hdd what ditro to use?  any suggestions ?
[14:49] <chao06> SeekTruth: I use Rhythmbox for managing my library, xmms for on the fly playlists, and totem for playing audio files out of nautilus
[14:49] <SeekTruth> Zider: you prefer audacious?
[14:49] <hydester> so, anybody know if ubuntu can take advantage of 64-bit intel processors?
[14:49] <Zider> SeekTruth: it's my choice in linux, yeah
[14:49] <theadmin> hydester: Yes obviously, use the 64-bit release
[14:50] <hydester> theadmin: isn't the 64-bit for AMD?
[14:50] <theadmin> hydester: Well, it's just called "amd64", works with Intel processors too
[14:50] <chao06> SeekTruth: well, alot may be somewhat of an overstatement, but my purposes require absolute stability, and audacious has never given me that
[14:50] <maginot> SeekTruth, if you like simplicity use VLC, it plays everything beside music
[14:50] <erUSUL> classical: http://www.slitaz.org
[14:50] <BinaryBob> you know how there are startup scripts in /etc/init.d for services?  What is that called?  I want to google for the right term so I can read about how to write my own scripts and add my own services correctly
[14:50] <Zider> I've never had stability issues with audacious
[14:50] <hydester> theadmin: ah, quite confusing.  is it easy to upgrade from 32-bit to 64-bit?
[14:50] <SeekTruth> maginot: besides music?
[14:50] <theadmin> maginot: Huh wha? Uh, dude, it plays music fine
[14:50] <BinaryBob> is that called init?
[14:51] <theadmin> hydester: You have to reinstall
[14:51] <maginot> theadmin, sorry, wrong word =X
[14:51] <maginot> Seeker`, ^
[14:51] <erUSUL> BinaryBob: System V init system
[14:51] <maginot> ops
[14:51] <maginot> SeekTruth, ^
[14:51] <theadmin> BinaryBob: It's called Upstart.
[14:51] <FloodBot4> maginot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:51] <classical> erUSUL, ya i know but its too minimalistic i think :-(
[14:51] <erUSUL> BinaryBob: read /etc/init.d/skeleton is an example/stub
[14:51] <SeekTruth> maginot: u over tired? :)
[14:51] <BinaryBob> thank you!!
[14:51] <maginot> SeekTruth, I mean, it plays everything and music =D
[14:51] <brush> hello
[14:51] <SeekTruth> lol
[14:51] <bo7amny> hello
[14:52] <chao06> is there a way I can have nm-applet, gnome-volume-control-applet and gnome-power-manager independent of the notification area?
[14:52] <maginot> SeekTruth, sometimes I get confused with some english words =X
[14:52] <theadmin> maginot: XD well especially movies. When you get a weird .mkv and have no idea what codecs are used... VLC is a lifesaver
[14:52] <hydester> theadmin: is it worth it?  that is, do you think i'll notice any benefit on a 1.5 ghz T2310 laptop with 2 GB ram?
[14:52] <brush> as i see, the early morning update removed compiz. only for me?
[14:52] <theadmin> hydester: None, because 64-bit is of any advantage with 4+ GB of RAM
[14:52] <bazhang> brush, for lucid?
[14:53] <hydester> hmm, i thought 64-bit is also faster due to efficiency reasons
[14:53] <Zider> theadmin: I thought it gave better performance in some (rare) cases too
[14:53] <brush> bazhang, of course... i am sorry
[14:53] <hydester> so only for utilizing more ram?
[14:53] <SeekTruth> Ok I need to start again... What plays MP4 files which are videos?
[14:53] <theadmin> hydester: Pretty much yeah
[14:53] <bazhang> brush, #ubuntu+1 for lucid please
[14:53] <xubunto1_> a litle help with a caffeine
[14:53] <theadmin> SeekTruth: VLC...
[14:53] <erUSUL> SeekTruth: vlc  ; mplayer ...
[14:53] <SeekTruth> ok back to VLC :)
[14:53] <aar> Hi, I'm trying to FTP or SSH from my computer (ubuntu, <IP_ADDRESS>) to another computer (ubuntu, <IP_ADDRESS>) in a LAN. I get "no route to host" error. How can I trace the route so the two boxes find each other?
[14:53] <SeekTruth> audacious only plays music, dont show the videos
[14:53] <brush> oki
[14:53] <erUSUL> SeekTruth: totem default player does it too
[14:54] <xubunto1_> with plugin i must to install to use the dvb-s with a kaffeine?
[14:54] <SeekTruth> erUSUL: ok
[14:54] <maginot> SeekTruth, VLC plays everything I have seen so far
[14:54] <SeekTruth> ill go play around and see which one I like the best
[14:54] <dewman> aar, can you ping the other host?
[14:54] <hydester> SeekTruth: you can't go wrong with vlc for video media
[14:54] <SeekTruth> bbl :)
[14:54] <theadmin> maginot: Does not play midi's (on Windows, plays fine on Linux XD)
[14:54] <SeekTruth> hydester: ok
[14:54] <erUSUL> SeekTruth: just install ubuntu-restricted-extras and the ffmpeg gstreamer plugon
[14:54] <SeekTruth> erUSUL: i did
[14:54] <Kuifje111> aar: "trace <IP_ADDRESS>"?
[14:54] <aar> dewman, no -- "host unreachable".
[14:54] <Kuifje111> or tracert*
[14:55] <erUSUL> aar: what is the output of « ip route »
[14:55] <erUSUL> ?
[14:55] <erUSUL> !paste
[14:55] <SeekTruth> i want to remove audacious and use vlc.. how do I totally remove and uninstall audacious?
[14:56] <chao06> SeekTruth: 'sudo apt-get purge audacious'
[14:56] <Kuifje111> apt-get remove audacious?
[14:56] <SeekTruth> chao06: cheers
[14:56] <theadmin> SeekTruth: Recommend you to read "man apt-get" someday. Do: sudo apt-get purge... well, what chao06 said
[14:56] <aar> erUSUL, <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth1  proto kernel  scope link  src <IP_ADDRESS> ---- default via <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth1 ---- default via <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth1
[14:56] <SeekTruth> whats diff between remove and purge?
[14:56] <theadmin> SeekTruth: "remove" leaves configuration files
[14:56] <SeekTruth> purge then is best
[14:56] <SeekTruth> brb
[14:57] <aar> Kuifje111, this is the output of tracert: 1  <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>)  3000.059 ms !H  3000.065 ms !H  3000.067 ms !H (just 1 hop)
[14:57] <SeekTruth> on vista I was always too scared to download and install programs to play around with.. but in ubuntu its great and easy and safe and easy to purge :)
[14:57] <erUSUL> aar: what is the exact command you used? you typed the wrong ip's on the first question... <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:57] <xomp> ok, don't think I have the brain power to figure out permissions and such with chmod/chown lol. Would be way easier if I had a GUI but I'm using a VPS "Linode" and from what I gather, it's all console baby..
[14:57] <ehmphy> ce...cht me??
[14:57] <SeekTruth> and NO REGISTRY :)
[14:58] <erUSUL> aar: that two ip should be 192.168.0.[4,5]
[14:58] <theadmin> SeekTruth: Yep :D
[14:58] <rocket16_> Friends, I am trapped in a problem, I have only Uuntu 9.10 installed, using the entire Hard Disk, and before, it did not show the Grub menu. But now, it shows it, and unless I select the Ubuntu kernel, nothing happens. The default entry does not boot up. Also, the Login screen takes more time to load. (I recently installed Ubuntu-studio).
[14:58] <aar> erUSUL, <IP_ADDRESS> is my internal IP. <IP_ADDRESS> is the IP of the box I want to FTP to.
[14:58] <theadmin> SeekTruth: Registry is only good for viruses lol
[14:58] <SeekTruth> theadmin: :-)
[14:58] <teguh> ubuntu 64 bit, google chrome can not play flash
[14:58] <aar> erUSUL, my command was: sudo tracert <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:58] <erUSUL> aar: no; see the ip route output the lan is 192.168.0.x
[14:59] <haavaros> Hm, I'm trying to add a fat32 disk to fstab, but it doesn't recognize 'fat' as a filesystem ... Is 'vfat' (as suggested by error dialog) the correct fs name?
[14:59] <skino> Afternoon All. Is there anyone who can help with Nautilus. Every time i start up i have no icons ETC on my DEsktop and im unable to Right click on the desktop... When i try run Nautilus In terminal i get the following http://paste.ubuntu.com/411620/
[14:59] <theadmin> haavaros: vfat, yes.
[14:59] <SeekTruth> ok im VLC how do u show the playlist?
[14:59] <erUSUL> aar: so why you keep typing the ip's wrong here? is confusing ...
[14:59] <haavaros> theadmin: thx
[14:59] <theadmin> SeekTruth: There is this button which looks like some kinda list
[14:59] <theadmin> haavaros: wha
[14:59] <SeekTruth> theadmin: found it :)
[15:00] <rocket16_> So, what to do?
[15:00] <darksider> uhm..can someone help me with a FATAL error im having? my laptop boots up and goes to login, but when i login it goes to a shell for like a nano second and then goes back to login. i can login 100 times and nothing happens. i caught a glimpse of the shell and it said something about "init crypto"
[15:01] <theadmin> darksider: hit Ctrl+Alt+f1 on login screen please and give the full error
[15:01] <darksider> theadmin, two secs plz
[15:02] <theadmin> Hm, i wonder how is it proper to say Ctrl+Alt+F1? ^M-F1?
[15:02] <maginot> theadmin, Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[15:02] <maginot> ;X
[15:02] <rdg> anyone here familiar with the construction of the ubuntu  apache-tomcat package?
[15:02] <theadmin> maginot: Well, you know, the Nano style lol like it reffers to Ctrl as ^ and to Alt as M-
[15:02] <rdg> I'm confused as to why tomcat is split between /usr/share and /var/lib, especially when it doesn't seem to work all that well
[15:03] <maginot> theadmin, another reason to not use nano lol
[15:03] <theadmin> maginot: nano is fine with me
[15:03] <Kuifje111> nano vi.
[15:03] <Zider> nano <3
[15:03] <maginot> theadmin, I have already get used with vi... so other looks strange =P
[15:03] <darksider> [      33.781050] Intel AES-NI instructions are not detected ***
[15:03] <SeekTruth> be back tomorrow, thanks everyone.  see ya theadmin , maginot  and erUSUL and chao06 and Kuifje111 and hydester
[15:03] <naadde> I deleted with tasksel ubuntu-desktop. Tried to tasksel install xubuntu-desktop for getting something lighter
[15:03]  * darksider cries
[15:03] <Kuifje111> bye SeekTruth.
[15:03] <theadmin> maginot: I can't get vi, it's confusing. Well, to each it's own
[15:03] <naadde> it won't get installed
[15:04] <theadmin> naadde: Any errors?
[15:04] <naadde> theadmin: yea
[15:04] <bluebaron> anyone know what m1f1 means for cd read mode?
[15:04] <hh> fff
[15:04] <maginot> theadmin, vi is like riding a bicycle when you learn you never forgets =D
[15:04] <hh> hello
[15:04] <naadde> theadmin: It starts installing packages please wait...
[15:04] <hh> hi
[15:04] <naadde> when it says aptitude failed (100)
[15:04] <hh> can i have chat with anybody
[15:05] <naadde> retrieved file 57 of 972
[15:05] <theadmin> naadde: Hm. Run "sudo apt-get -f"
[15:05] <theadmin> em
[15:05] <darksider> theadmin, this is the error that shows after login, and instead of starting x (i think thats what i use) it goes to shell after printing this- [      33.781050] Intel AES-NI instructions are not detected ***
[15:05] <theadmin> naadde: sudo apt-get -f install
[15:05] <naadde> t
[15:05] <naadde> 0 installed
[15:05] <naadde> and 5 not upgraded
[15:05] <theadmin> darksider: Some hardware stuff...... %) Can't help anymore, sorry
[15:05] <rakesh> hi
[15:05] <jyraia> how i make Thunar default File Manager and remove Nautilus
[15:05] <jyraia> ?
[15:05] <rakesh> helllooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[15:05] <theadmin> naadde: There. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[15:06] <eastbaynight> hey, i'm trying to get my webcam to work on firefox, but i can't figure out how, anyone know that?
[15:06] <darksider> theadmin, it was working ok last night...is there any particular reason it would decide to do this now ?
[15:06] <theadmin> darksider: No idea.
[15:06] <rocket16_> !hello | rakesh
[15:06] <psycho_oreos> darksider, AES-N1 sounds like encryption technology, if from Intel, its most likely missing instruction, not-capable chipset or no chipset with that technology found
[15:06] <theadmin> rocket16_: You're somewhat late
[15:06] <naadde> theadmin: E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[15:06] <theadmin> naadde: Ah, something wrong with the servers
[15:06] <bluebaron> hh http://www.pandorabots.com/pandora/talk?botid=f5d922d97e345aa1
[15:07] <bluebaron> ah he left
[15:07] <darksider> psycho_oreos, hmm..so maybe i should turn off crypto disks ?
[15:07] <eastbaynight> ?
[15:07] <rocket16_> theadmin: late?
[15:07] <bluebaron> anyone know what m1f1 means for cd read mode?
[15:07] <naadde> theadmin: so no problem at my?
[15:07] <psycho_oreos> darksider, your issue is with xorg I gather?
[15:07] <naadde> or is there something to do?
[15:07] <theadmin> naadde: Try replacing any occurence of "us.archive.ubuntu.com" in /etc/apt/sources.list with "ru.archive.ubuntu.com", then do sudo apt-get update
[15:07] <darksider> psycho_oreos, when i login it just goes straight back to login screen
[15:07] <theadmin> naadde: This will switch you to russian mirror. Not that you'll get russian packages, you will just download from russia :D
[15:07] <naadde> how do i do that theadmin without graphical interface
[15:08] <maginot> theadmin, with vi that can be done with :%s/us./ru./g =X
[15:08] <psycho_oreos> darksider, at exactly where? console or x?
[15:08] <darksider> psycho_oreos, and when i use CTRL_ALT_F1 thats the error it shows atfer login and before shell
[15:08] <eastbaynight> no one who can help?
[15:08] <naadde> theadmin: you can put it in my query :)
[15:08] <xomp> in soviet russia packages download you!
[15:08] <jyraia> someone can help-me changing from nautilus to thunarw
[15:08] <jyraia> ?
[15:08] <PapaGoose> theadmin: i think i found what i wanted: "sudo chrt -p --idle 0 <pid>"
[15:08] <darksider> psycho_oreos, uhm x i think..just during normal boot and login, i cant actually login
[15:08] <psycho_oreos> eastbaynight, I don't have experience with webcams
[15:08] <eastbaynight> nod
[15:08] <theadmin> naadde: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list then Ctrl+W and Ctrl+R, enter "us.archive.ubuntu.com" and then "ru.archive.ubuntu.com", ctrl+o
[15:09] <PapaGoose> never heard of chrt before today
[15:09] <psycho_oreos> darksider, if its not x you can easily see it as black and white.. black background and white words
[15:09] <rhineheart_m> hello.. please see this... http://pastebin.com/bgtAJS2d  All I wanted to accomplish is to get the full 600GB of space in my LVM... who can help me? I don't care of the 200 GB+ if I loss them..
[15:09] <darksider> psycho_oreos, when i load x then...and then try to login it wont. but if i goto shell and login it shows that error and then gives me a shell
[15:09] <pawel> da da da
[15:09] <pawel> da da da
[15:09] <pawel> daa da da da
[15:09] <bluebaron> anyone know what m1f1 means for cd read mode?
[15:10] <theadmin> pawel: stop this
[15:10] <psycho_oreos> !repeat | pawel
[15:10] <theadmin> psycho_oreos: That's not a question even
[15:10] <pawel> o czym gadacie
[15:10] <psycho_oreos> darksider, hmm its probably a messed up xinitrc I think
[15:10] <pawel> ??
[15:10] <bazhang> !pl | pawel
[15:10] <naadde>  theadmin then?
[15:10] <psycho_oreos> theadmin, still classified as repeating :)
[15:10] <darksider> psycho_oreos, any idea how to fix?
[15:10] <pawel> ok
[15:10] <naadde> what will I then write?
[15:11] <theadmin> naadde: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo tasksel install xubuntu-desktop
[15:11] <theadmin> naadde: Exit nano first though :P (Ctrl+X)
[15:11] <naadde> exitted it :)
[15:12] <frxstrem> is there a BitTorrent client for Ubuntu that is as good as µTorrent for Windows/Mac?
[15:12] <naadde> it asks if I want to upgrade three packages
[15:12] <theadmin> naadde: Yes
[15:12] <rocket16> theadmin: I did not understand, late for what?
[15:12] <naadde> then it says "E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[15:12] <theadmin> rocket16: Excuse me?
[15:12] <theadmin> naadde: Huh. Okay. I'm out of ideas. If i could ssh to you maybe i could do it this way :P
[15:12] <darksider> psycho_oreos, you have any idea how i can fix or go about learning how to fix this issue?
[15:13] <airtonix> frxstrem, you mean you haven't tried transmission
[15:13] <rocket16> theadmin: You earlier said "You are late", I did not understand, can you please explain?
[15:13] <theadmin> rocket16: Well, you said something about some spammer or something but he left already
[15:13] <frxstrem> airtonix: I don't think so (is that the built-in one for Ubuntu?)
[15:13] <naadde> theadmin: sorry I queried you
[15:13] <rocket16> theadmin: I see, :D
[15:13] <psycho_oreos> darksider, not really, I mean you also have encrypted partitions which may complicate the issue a bit more.. but I'd check .xinitrc which is under your $user directory and try to trace back what you did last
[15:13] <naadde> check it ^^
[15:13] <airtonix> frxstrem, yes its the default bit-torrent client. you also have deluge
[15:13] <haavaros> Hm, I'm formatting a new disk in fdisk. To specify partition size, do I calculate the ending cylinder by dividing partition size with cylinder size, or is there a simpler way?
[15:14] <frxstrem> airtonix: well, are they as good as µTorrent, with all it's features
[15:14] <frxstrem> cause that's what I want
[15:14] <blip-> hi, if anyone is interested in helping out with an rsync-based backup dilema I have.   Here's a forum question I just posted: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9098029
[15:14] <darksider> psycho_oreos, my friend was messing about yesterdday trying to learn some shell commands and he tried to sudo apt-get install xine-*
[15:14] <psycho_oreos> haavaros, you can use +Xm +Xg (where X is the number, and m for megabytes, g is for gigabytes)
[15:14] <airtonix> frxstrem, why? utorrent reports all your traffie to riaa now.
[15:14] <haavaros> psycho_oreos: thx
[15:14] <dsl558> lol
[15:15] <psycho_oreos> darksider, and that was it?
[15:15] <darksider> psycho_oreos, i stopped it when i noticed, but when i tried to remove xine-* it started trying to remove gedit, geany, amarok, and loads more
[15:15] <darksider> maybe it removed something important ?
[15:15] <frxstrem> airtonix: well, why should I really care?
[15:15] <Idlehead> hi everyone
[15:15] <psycho_oreos> darksider, looks like you may have a completely missing gnome :)
[15:15] <dsl558> riaa doesn't work in china
[15:15] <airtonix> frxstrem, why should i care?
[15:15] <darksider> =O
[15:15] <bazhang> !ot > dsl558
[15:15] <darksider> noooooooooooo
[15:15] <dsl558> nothing to worry about
[15:16]  * darksider likes his garden GNOMEs
[15:16] <frxstrem> airtonix: I haven't said that you should
[15:16] <dsl558> which chinese was cued by riaa?
[15:16] <airtonix> frxstrem, im also not really sure what features you think make utorrent awesome... please list them
[15:16] <bazhang> dsl558, please stop that
[15:16] <darksider> psycho_oreos, would it be worth a try hooking it up by ethernet and trying to install gnome over again ?
[15:16] <psycho_oreos> darksider, yeah it sounds like you have removed a hell lot of deps which are related to gnome bits and pieces.. you might be able to regain some via aptitude install ubuntu-desktop heh
[15:17] <airtonix> frxstrem, i've used utorrent, transmission & deluge a fair bit and i can't really see anything that makes them different from each other...
[15:17] <darksider> psycho_oreos, i will give it a try then reboot, and lket you know how she goes =)
[15:17] <psycho_oreos> darksider, that is more or less the only choice I believe more info maybe available in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:17] <darksider> psycho_oreos i will check that log just now 1st
[15:17]  * maginot aha, almost finishing his xchat modification =D
[15:18] <Trashi> hi. i have a problem to login via ssh without password .. i did create ide_rsa and ide_rsa.pub with ssh-keygen. after this i copied pub to authorized_keys in /home/user/.ssh .... now i want to login via ssh, but he is still asking for a password. is there someone who can help me?
[15:18] <airtonix> !info deluge
[15:18] <airtonix> !info transmission
[15:18] <airtonix> !info rtorrent
[15:18] <theadmin> transmission is a huge meh, i mean seriously it's kinda like connecting forever like 5 minutes and only THEN it starts it
[15:19] <Pici> !msgthebot
[15:19] <naadde> theadmin: now it says E: Malformed line 7 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[15:19] <darksider> psycho_oreos, what exactly should i be looking for? this is unusual teritory for me
[15:19] <darksider> territory*
[15:19] <theadmin> naadde: wha... uh... okay, I'm confused. I'll give you my sources.list, k?
[15:20] <naadde> sure
[15:20] <psycho_oreos> darksider, pastebin (not paste) your log, I'll check
[15:20] <darksider> uhm...
[15:20] <darksider> ok i will need to try hooking upto ethernet first
[15:20] <darksider> gimme two mins plz
[15:20] <psycho_oreos> darksider, or you can do sneakernet setup
[15:20] <darksider> and thanks psycho_oreos <3
[15:20] <darksider> sneakernet ?
[15:21] <maginot> naadde, probably you pasted something wrong... take a look at line 7
[15:21] <psycho_oreos> darksider, floppy disk in hand, copy data from one computer and move it across by foot :)
[15:21] <darksider> psycho_oreos, lol..no floppy drive just optical
[15:22] <psycho_oreos> similar logic applies with zips, blank cd/dvd, usb flash drives, etc
[15:22] <darksider> hmm how do i burn to a disk from a shell o.O ?
[15:22] <theadmin> darksider: There is a proggy called 'cdrecord'
[15:23] <psycho_oreos> I don't think that will work when the computer doesn't have network/internet access lol
[15:23] <maginot> theadmin, don't you like transmission? works great for me
[15:23] <rocket16> Nautilus takes about 97 MB RAM. Can it be reduced?  (I don't want to switch to OpenBox from Metacity though)
[15:23] <darksider> there seems to be proggys missing
[15:23] <darksider> lots of them
[15:23] <maginot> rocket16, you could install other browser ...
[15:23] <darksider> brasero amarok gedit geany to name a few
[15:24] <psycho_oreos> darksider, which was what happened when you issued aptitude remove or similar :)
[15:24] <Insomniaque> Hey
[15:24] <rocket16> maginot: Yes, but Nautilus is flexible, Thunar does not suite me, :)
[15:24] <darksider> psycho_oreos, yeah...you think i should try hooking upto ethy first and then trying to get the x gui back ?
[15:24] <maginot> rocket16, take a look at xfe, "apt-get install xfe"
[15:25] <Insomniaque> So I just broke my current linux: Backtrack by trying to get Nautilus on KDE (which worked, until I wanted to go back to Konqueror.) So I'm now trying to switch to Ubuntu, with command line access and an external harddrive.
[15:25] <rocket16> maginot: Yes, but Xfce is not so nice, is it?
[15:25] <darksider> psycho_oreos, i might just have a backup list of all the packages i had installed at the point in time yesterday,...
[15:25] <bazhang> Insomniaque, bt4?
[15:25] <Insomniaque> I'm currently downloading the ubuntu iso to ~ and I just googled how to burn the ISO to an external hdd
[15:25] <Insomniaque> Yes, bazhang
[15:25] <maginot> rocket16, you don't need xfce, just xfe... its a file manager
[15:25] <psycho_oreos> darksider, yes but if you want extra sense of security, I'd recommend you to backup any necessary data before proceeding
[15:25] <Insomniaque> I got sick of the KDE mixed with Gnome and some bugs within it (not to mention outdated repos.)
[15:25] <FallenSparrow> hey guyws i am hainvg some serious issues with dual booting with ssd.
[15:25] <rocket16> maginot: Oh, I see
[15:25] <darksider> psycho_oreos, all my stuff is already backed up >_<
[15:25] <FallenSparrow> anyone able to help
[15:26] <ikonia> FallenSparrow: SSD has nothing to do with it
[15:26] <darksider> psycho_oreos, i will brb..gonna give it a show of hooking upto ethy
[15:26] <nicola> ciao
[15:26] <Insomniaque> So, I found this: http://learn.clemsonlinux.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Install_from_USB_drive And I'm wondering what ramdisk_size is, seeing as it says it may need to be adjusted.
[15:26] <bazhang> Insomniaque, you could also burn to usb flash key
[15:26] <ikonia> FallenSparrow: they are treated the same as normal disks
[15:26] <FallenSparrow> i already have a dual boot on a patter disk
[15:26] <psycho_oreos> darksider, ok good, just in case :)
[15:26] <hydester> on jaunty, where do i put a script to be called when the laptop goes between AC power and battery?
[15:26] <maginot> !it | nicola
[15:26] <FallenSparrow> and i know i have issues with drive geometery
[15:26] <Insomniaque> bazhang: I have no USB flash drive large enough (not even sure I have one smaller for that matter,) however, my external hdd is a usb drive, so I figured it'd be the same pretty much
[15:26] <Insomniaque> ?
[15:27] <haavaros> On a 1TB backup disk, should I use ext3 or 4, or does it not matter?
[15:27] <ikonia> haavaros: doesn't matter
[15:27] <haavaros> k txh
[15:27] <FallenSparrow> this is my issue, i have windows 7 and ubuntu on wd 1tb.  i have added ssd, 60gb, i want to have my dual boot onthe ssd instead. and have my windows data (onkly abotu 100gb and my home partition on ssd
[15:27] <tigerplug292> hi
[15:27] <bazhang> haavaros, to be shared with windows or not
[15:27] <tigerplug292> anyone know where I can find Ubuntu for Itanium based servers? - Can't find it on the site at all
[15:27] <ikonia> FallenSparrow: so what's teh issue with it
[15:27] <haavaros> bazhang: only linux devices
[15:27] <ikonia> tigerplug292: no port
[15:27] <Insomniaque> Also, I have one other question besides the ramdisk_size, and that is: If I go through the tutorial on the wiki that I just linked (I'm doing the second one, the one which you install the bootloader and then copy the files), I will NOT lose any directories already on the drive, correct?
[15:27] <Insomniaque> And lastly, how can I check what format my external is?
[15:28] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, there's two ways to go about on it, one is to use unetbootin and hope that it'll work or use something like grub4dos
[15:28] <tigerplug292> ikonia: thanks :)
[15:28] <haavaros> bazhang: or maybe not ... I'm probably getting a winputer this summer, so I'll probably go for fat32
[15:28] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, which tutorial?
[15:29] <Insomniaque> Hmm... on the wiki it says as long as the hard drive is FAT16, I should be able to just run syslinux /dev/sda1 and copy the files over along with the bootloader config file.
[15:29] <FallenSparrow> well i am a bit daunted by the whole issue with geometery but also when i install the ssd windows seven it effects the grub which i dont underdstand hwo that is possible basically when i install windows  on ssd, i cant no longer access my ubuntu partition on the WD, grubb never loads, just the windows  boot manager.asking me which win 7 to boot
[15:29] <Insomniaque> One sec, psycho_oreos
[15:29] <maginot> ikonia, doesn't x64 works on itanium servers ?
[15:29] <Insomniaque> http://learn.clemsonlinux.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Install_from_USB_drive#The_Slow_Method
[15:30] <rdg> if I want to set global environment variables for my users, I should just edit /etc/profile right?
[15:30] <chao06> is there any way I can have nm-applet, gnome-volume-control-applet and gnome-power-manager independent of the notification area?
[15:30] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, hmm never tried those, I only used unetbootin, failing that I'd setup grub4dos and make it boot iso off that
[15:30] <FallenSparrow> now right now i am trying to install linux on the ssd, that i have already instaled win 7 to, and 9.10 does nto see teh ssd
[15:30] <Insomniaque> A friend of mine on MSN just told me that if my external is more than 80GB it's guaranteed NTFS?
[15:30] <Insomniaque> Let me take a look at unetbootin
[15:30] <ikonia> maginot: no
[15:31] <ZykoticK9> chao06, are you using Lucid?
[15:31] <Zider> Insomniaque: I doubt it's guaranteed ntfs but recommended
[15:31] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, if you're using windows to format, it'll be in NTFS which won't work well with these other tools
[15:31] <chao06> ZykoticK9: no, karmic...
[15:31] <ZykoticK9> chao06, ok - just checking.
[15:31] <Insomniaque> Well it came pre-formatted, so I'd assume NTFS.
[15:31] <Insomniaque> It's a WesternDigital.
[15:32] <FallenSparrow> also i am curious with the wawy linux works, if i have my home partition on the wd, does that mean my apps will not receive the benifits of an ssd
[15:32] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, plug it in and check
[15:32] <Trek> Insomniaque: nah, its most likely a FAT32 or something
[15:32] <maginot> ikonia, interesting ... but if you compile ia64 support on kernel, will 32/64 bits application still work?
[15:32] <Trek> Insomniaque: how big a drive?
[15:32] <Insomniaque> psycho_oreos: It's plugged in, how can I check via command line?
[15:32] <Insomniaque> Trek: 500gb
[15:32] <rdg> Insomniaque: the limit for FAT32is theoretically 8TB
[15:32] <chao06> ZykoticK9: is this a new feature in lucid?
[15:32] <Insomniaque> Oh really?
[15:32] <psycho_oreos> FallenSparrow, what is wd? western digital? as in a normal hard disk?
[15:32] <ZykoticK9> chao06, no it's REALLY locked down
[15:32] <Trek> maginot: why'd you ctcp version me?
[15:32] <psycho_oreos> Insomniaque, which OS are you on?
[15:32] <FallenSparrow> yes i am sorry normal platter 1tb driive
[15:32] <rdg> Insomniaque: just do a   mount /dev/whatever /mnt/external and see if mount figures it out
[15:32] <hafidz> hello.iwhen i open application>ubuntu software center. it does try to load but few seconds later it closed. i now cannot use software center. yesterday i can still use it. can someone answer me how to make it working again? I don't want to reinstall ubuntu as it is a last chance. anyone know how to fix this bug?
[15:33] <ikonia> mneptok: ix64 is totally different than x86/x86_^4
[15:33] <maginot> Trek, it something of my script.. it tries to see what version those speaking have
[15:33] <Insomniaque> Right now, I'm using a limited WIndows XP that I don't own. Can't really use it besides web.
[15:33] <rdg> or run parted on the drive
[15:33] <chao06> ZykoticK9: oh my... is that for the purposes of the beta, or is it that way for good?
[15:33] <psycho_oreos> FallenSparrow, well no, most applications won't be residing in /home directory for that matter
[15:33] <FallenSparrow> basically i want my same setup but instead of haivng seperate partitions for data and os like i have now,k i want seperate drives.
[15:33] <maginot> Trek, I think I'm going to take this off
[15:33] <Trek> maginot: may I PM you?
[15:33] <hafidz> :(
[15:33] <Insomniaque> I'm trying to do everything from my linux PC which currently only has command line access.
[15:33] <maginot> Trek, ok
[15:33] <FallenSparrow> because apps reside in /usr/local correct?
[15:33] <rdg> Insomniaque: WindowsXP probably won't let you format it over 32GB, built in limitation of XP format tool
[15:33] <ZykoticK9> chao06, sorry man, i can't (don't wish) to discuss any Lucid issues here.
[15:33] <hafidz> my software center is auto close.anyone having this prob before?