[12:00] <Seveas> the windows drives are mounted under /media
[12:00] <delire> tsuki: use "q u o t e s" ;)
[12:00] <afroman_> bur[n] er, the thing is it looks like tightvnc is a vnc server, not a cient
[12:00] <apprentice> tsuki: do you know IAN by any chance?
[12:00] <siimo> from the 2nd drive the cd came out peeled from the sides and with 2mm deep scratches :-|
[12:00] <tsuki> Nope.
[12:00] <apprentice> oh ok just checking
[12:00] <Seveas> tsuki, if you try it in the gdm login screen, does it happen too..?
[12:01] <tehmasp> siimo, damn
[12:01] <Seveas> siimo, omg...
[12:01] <delire> siimo: ouch
[12:01] <Seveas> that's a bad cd drive :|
[12:01] <Flying-Penguin> Seveas: the folders don't have a folder icon and! it doesn't open them
[12:01] <siimo> yeah right
[12:01] <siimo> i been using it everyday without a problem
[12:01] <delire> siimo: "don't try it at home"
[12:02] <Seveas> Flying-Penguin, can you please paste your /etc/fstab at paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:02] <tsuki> I don't know if it happends in the login screen, but my guess would be yes.
[12:02] <Choubaka> Pfft.
[12:02] <Choubaka> Damn Linux and iptables :(
[12:02] <Seveas> tsuki, please try it...
[12:02] <tsuki> Alright.
[12:02] <afroman_> bur[n] er, I'm not being dumb, I'm just new to this
[12:02] <tsuki> BRB.
[12:02] <delire> Flying-Penguin: manage to sort out your fglrx?
[12:02] <Choubaka> I can't set up traffic shaping, so my latency goes up to 3000 ms when I upload at all :>
[12:03] <Seveas> Choubaka, use wondershaper :)
[12:03] <Flying-Penguin> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/172
[12:03] <Choubaka> Seveas: it doesn't work.
[12:03] <Choubaka> Seveas: no effect whatsoever.
[12:03] <Flying-Penguin> delire: !!!!!! yay your on... I needed your help for so long then one person finly helped me... I reinstalled ubuntu.
[12:03] <lee_> Seveas, im back
[12:03] <Seveas> Flying-Penguin, and now the output of mount (without arguments) too please :)
[12:03] <Seveas> hi lee_ :)
[12:03] <lee_> Seveas, it automatically booted into that kenel
[12:03] <Seveas> try sudo modprobe ndiswrapper again
[12:03] <lee_> kernel
[12:03] <delire> Flying-Penguin: you reinstalled??? youch! how come?
[12:03] <Choubaka> And I feel like shouting out of frustration.
[12:04] <Seveas> ah nice, I was expecting that but you never know ;)
[12:04] <Choubaka> QWENFqwefnqufnv wefb etc. damn it
[12:04] <tsuki> Same thing in the login screen.
[12:04] <Seveas> tsuki, ah!
[12:04] <Seveas> now we at least know it's system wide
[12:04] <lee_> Seveas - FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[12:04] <Choubaka> I was able to get wroking traffic shaping when my router still had FreeBSD
[12:04] <Flying-Penguin> /dev/hdb1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[12:04] <Flying-Penguin> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[12:04] <Flying-Penguin> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[12:04] <Flying-Penguin> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[12:04] <Flying-Penguin> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[12:04] <Flying-Penguin> none on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=5M,mode=0755)
[12:04] <delire> oops
[12:04] <Seveas> Flying-Penguin, NOT IN HERE!
[12:04] <delire> watch that flood
[12:04] <afroman_> bur[n] er, I'm not being dumb, I'm just new to this
[12:05] <delire> afroman_: no new Linux user is dumb. what's up?
[12:05] <lee_> Seveas> GNULinuxer and I were working on trying to solve this yesterday
[12:05] <lee_> Seveas> he said something about compiling something
[12:05] <afroman_> delire, thx... I want to use VNC
[12:06] <Seveas> lee_, there is the setupndiswrapperhowto on the wiki that lets you compile the thing
[12:06] <Seveas> some people have had more success with it
[12:06] <delire> afroman_: sadly i don't use it, so cannot help. i believe there is a Howto for Ubuntu out there. perhaps check the Ubuntu wiki page?
[12:06] <lee_> Seveas> you have a link?
[12:06] <afroman_> delire, I have a windows laptop and Ubuntu pc... I want to use control Ubuntu from windows
[12:06] <lee_> Seveas> i can give it a try
[12:06] <Seveas> lee_, can you please type dmesg in the terminal and paste the last 20 lines of output on paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:07] <alicia> cmatheson, "root@Alicia:/ydrive # smbmount \\hydrogen.truman.edu\aec047 ydrive -o "username=aec047,workgroup=truman"
[12:07] <alicia> Could not resolve mount point ydrive" what does this mean?
[12:08] <Seveas> alicia, you need to make a new directory and let it mount there
[12:08] <lee_> Seveas> its up
[12:08] <Seveas> like: sudo mkdir /mnt/idrive
[12:08] <alicia> I made a ydrive directory
[12:08] <Seveas> and use /mnt/idrive in the call to smbmount
[12:08] <cmatheson> alicia, i think you need more back-slashes... \\\\hydrogen.truman.edu\\aec047 ydrive... you have to double the backsplashes (i think it has todo w/ bash)
[12:08] <stephane_> bonsoir
[12:08] <afroman_> question> is tightvnc a server or client VNC???
[12:09] <Hauf> how do I (if possible) use transparent windows in gnome?
[12:09] <lee_> Seveas> do you see it on there?
[12:09] <FLeiXiuS> Hauf: xcomposite.
[12:09] <Flying-Penguin> SORRY guys
[12:09] <socomm> !xcomposite
[12:09] <ubotu> socomm: Are you smoking crack?
[12:09] <socomm> !composite
[12:09] <cmatheson> Hauf, you'll want to check out the Composite extensions to X... it's been way unstable for me though
[12:09] <ubotu> socomm: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[12:09] <socomm> !xcompmgr
[12:09] <ubotu> Wish i knew, socomm
[12:09] <Seveas> lee_, i'm busy, hang on :)
[12:09] <stephane_> p
[12:09] <lee_> Seveas> np
[12:09] <Hauf> thanks i'm going to try it
[12:09] <delire> afroman_: have you installed vnc on the windows machine? this may be useful: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/VNC.html
[12:10] <lee_> Seveas> let me go ahead and thank you for your help
[12:10] <afroman_> question: is tightvnc a server or client VNC???
[12:10] <jasoncohen> afroman_, tightvncserver is the server and xtightvncviewer is the viewer
[12:10] <Seveas> lee_, ok, can you type this in the terminal: ndiswrapper -l
[12:10] <Seveas> and paste the output of that
[12:10] <Seveas> I think I know where things go wrong :)
[12:10] <Flying-Penguin> delire: could you join #flying-penguin I want to ask you a few qustions... but since I am doing so much stuff it will take meh a wile to type it all... and it would be all broken up on this channle. this way you can read it once I am done.
[12:11] <lee_> Seveas> Installed ndis drivers:
[12:11] <lee_> bcmwl5  invalid driver!
[12:11] <lee_> bcmwl5.sys      invalid driver!
[12:11] <Seveas> see, it says invalid driver
[12:11] <delire> afroman_: i don't use that either (never work with Windows at all). this may be of use: http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/VNC/vnc-over-ssh.html
[12:11] <Seveas> you need to install the correct driver for your card
[12:11] <lee_> So i see
[12:11] <mbruemmer> hellp
[12:11] <lee_> ok let me try things again, do you have a wiki site i can use?
[12:12] <lee_> i had one but when i restarted i forgot to bookmark it
[12:12] <Seveas> wiki.ubuntu.com/setupndiswrapperhowto
[12:13] <tsuki> So, got any idea of what's wrong with my space/backspace, Seveas?
[12:13] <jasoncohen> afroman_, you probably will also want vnc4 - so apt-get install vnc4server xvnc4viewer or tightvncserver xtightvncviewer
[12:13] <Seveas> tsuki, no idea at all i'm afraid
[12:13] <Seveas> try running xev from the terminal
[12:13] <Seveas> and see which keycode the space transmits
[12:14] <afroman_> delire is tightvnc a server or client VNC???
[12:14] <afroman_> jasoncohen, why do I need so many VNC products
[12:14] <afroman_> ???
[12:15] <jasoncohen> afroman_, you just need a viewer and a server
[12:15] <steal> hi all
[12:15] <jasoncohen> afroman_, a server for the machine you want to connect to and a viewer on the machine you want to connect from
[12:15] <jasoncohen> afroman_, there are 3 vnc servers offered in debian
[12:15] <jasoncohen> vnc 3.x, vnc 4.x and tightvnc
[12:15] <jasoncohen> i would recommend either vnc4 or tightvnc
[12:16] <steal> i'm trying to install gnupoc
[12:16] <afroman_> jasoncohen, isn't vnc-common and vnc-server enough???
[12:16] <jasoncohen> and x11vnc if you want to connect t the current x session (5900)
[12:16] <jasoncohen> afroman_, that's for the old version of vnc
[12:16] <steal> but when i try to install makesis i have an error
[12:16] <lee_> Seveas> should i just try the several ones that i have until i see one tht worked?
[12:17] <Seveas> lee_, that might be the best option, but remove the installed one before you proceed with the next
[12:17] <jasoncohen> afroman_, that's 3.x. you might as well use the 4.x series. which is vnc4server and xvnc4viewer
[12:17] <Seveas> and also: do not use winxp drivers
[12:17] <Seveas> win2k drivers work
[12:17] <lee_> oh ok and to remove i use -e?
[12:17] <Seveas> (I had the same chip once, asus wl500g)
[12:17] <Seveas> ndiswrpapper -h (gives you the syntax)
[12:17] <lee_> oh ok well i have winxp drivers, is that ok or should i get 2000 ones?
[12:17] <Eken> When I Install the 64bit version (both ubuntu & Kubuntu) My audigy sound card will stay silent. The alsa drivers are loaded successfully,but no sound. Strange.  It works with other dists or with the i386 versions of Ubuntu & Kubuntu. Must be a bug in the packs.
[12:18] <steal> please help me
[12:18] <Seveas> try the win2k ones
[12:18] <unome> is it okay/recommanded to use backports?
[12:19] <yuacht> steal, what error?
[12:19] <Seveas> okay: mostly, recommended: not always
[12:19] <Kyral> unome: Yes
[12:19] <Seveas> but they're much better then they used to be
[12:19] <unome> Thanks.
[12:19] <Kyral> I support the Backports fully (even staging is mostly stable)
[12:20] <alicia> Seveas, i tried what you said and it gave me a long list of options and then this "This command is designed to be run from within /bin/mount by giving
[12:20] <alicia> the option '-t smbfs'. For example:
[12:20] <alicia>   mount -t smbfs -o username=tridge,password=foobar //fjall/test /data/test" Now what??
[12:20] <lee_> Seveas> ok when i tried to uninstall it, it said rm: cannot remove `/etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5.sys': Permission denied
[12:20] <unome> I was just concerned about security using backports.
[12:20] <xabbu|> Morning.
[12:20] <Seveas> alicia, have you tried the places -> connect to server thing already?
[12:20] <bphan> has anyone installed Enlightenment?
[12:20] <Seveas> that's really the easiest option
[12:20] <lee_> Seveas> and when i tried the same thing but with .inf instead of sys it said it wasnt installed
[12:21] <afroman_> jasoncohen, so how does nx work???
[12:21] <bphan> I have a probleem complile eclair <= I always get this error = >>pkg-config  is not in your $PATH. Please ensure it is.
[12:21] <bphan> Read the manual page for you shell as to how to extend your path. configure: error: Cannot find pkg-config
[12:21] <alicia> Seveas, yeah... it didn't work. That's why i called the school helpdesk and they told me to do it this way.
[12:21] <Seveas> lee_, use sudo :)
[12:21] <lee_> haha
[12:21] <Seveas> alicia, ah :)
[12:21] <lee_> to remove it?
[12:21] <bphan> does anyone know how to fix this problme?
[12:21] <lee_> so sudo ndiswrapper -e driver
[12:21] <ChaniX> morning xabbu|
[12:21] <Seveas> try mount -t smbfs instead of smbmount then
[12:22] <Seveas> the rest of the command should be the same
[12:22] <jasoncohen> afroman_, nx is good for slower links because it's much faster. it also is more secure as it's tunneled over SSH. you'll have to install the nx client & server and set it up. vnc is generally easier to setup
[12:22] <alicia> seveas, i tried and it gave me the same thing
[12:22] <afroman_> jasoncohen, so how does nx work??? or tightvnc
[12:22] <jasoncohen> have you used vnc before?
[12:22] <Funraiser> does someone has a list of anonymous proxies that actually work?
[12:23] <jasoncohen> tightvnc is just another vnc client. nx is different
[12:23] <afroman_> jasoncohen, is tightvnc a server or client vnc
[12:23] <jasoncohen> it has packages for both - tightvncserver and xtightvncviewer
[12:23] <liz4rd> i'm on kubuntu and i was wondering if i do a apt-get install ubuntu-desktop....what version of gnome will i get
[12:24] <yuacht> liz4rd, use synaptic
[12:24] <liz4rd> ok
[12:24] <afroman_> jasoncohen, so what do I do???
[12:24] <yuacht> and the latest gnome-version will be your young padawan ;)
[12:25] <yuacht> yours*
[12:25] <jasoncohen> afroman_, read this first - realvnc.com
[12:25] <rronkivx> do you guys think ubuntu will work on a 3gb hdd?
[12:25] <Seveas> alicia, can you please talk to me in private and paste the exact command you used to try mounting
[12:25] <jasoncohen> afroman_, it's easy to setup. just apt-get install vnc4server xvnc4viewer
[12:25] <yuacht> rronkiv, yes
[12:25] <afroman_> jasoncohen, they don't say how it works???
[12:26] <yuacht> rronkiv, you will be pretty limited though, app-wise
[12:26] <jasoncohen> afroman_, run vnc4server at the command line as a user and it'll ask you for a password to connect. enter one (i believe it has to be 8 characters or less) and then it'll start the server
[12:26] <Gskillet> Trying to use my Bluetooth USB Dongle on Ubuntu keeps returning: Device is not available: Success - I have the bluez drivers and utils, I also have the USB BT drivers enabled in the kernel.  What am I missing?
[12:26] <alicia> seveas, how do I talk to you in private
[12:26] <jasoncohen> you can connect to the server from the client by doing vnc4viewer ip:1
[12:26] <afroman_> jasoncohen, done
[12:27] <jasoncohen> you can use vnc4viewer or the remote desktop connection tool if you'll be changing servers
[12:28] <jasoncohen> i have a link on my desktop set to connect to my server and i wrote a tiny init.d script to start the server as my user. i then set the resolution in /etc/vnc.conf
[12:29] <jasoncohen> afroman_, kde's remote desktop connection tool is quite nice. it'll allow you to use vnc fullscreen and create profiles for several different servers
[12:29] <jasoncohen> afroman_, if you want to secure vnc which i would recommend doing you can tunnel it over SSH or tunnel it over a VPN
[12:29] <djm62> TokenBad: sorted...
[12:31] <jasoncohen> afroman_, you would do ssh -L 5902:localhost:5901 serverip from the client and then xvnc4viewer localhost:2 from the client
[12:31] <jasoncohen> that way, everything is tunneled through SSH
[12:31] <KillerSmurf> does anyone have exper w/ config a wacom graphire.  I have it running but my buttons are not working right.  It is a 4x5 serial wacom graphire.  any direction?  Thanks
[12:32] <jasoncohen> i just setup an openvpn server/client setup so that my client is granted a vpn ip on a virtual tun adaptor using OpenVPN when i boot up so i can just connect to the VPN ip transparently
[12:32] <afroman_> jasoncohen, it works but what about from Windows to Linux
[12:33] <PoliteCyborg> If one were developing a new keyboard which consisted of two parts: one part for both hands and the other part on the floor for your toes to operate, how would one go about designing drivers for such a device?
[12:33] <jasoncohen> afroman_, if linux is the client you would connect to windowsip and from windows linuxip:1
[12:33] <jasoncohen> afroman_, it's cross platform
[12:34] <DannoHung> Grrr... does anyone have an idea as to why Ubuntu wouldn't be able to get a DHCP address from a wireless ethernet bridge?  I tried it on Windows and it worked flawlessly.
[12:34] <Gskillet> Need help trying to use Bluetooth USB Dongle on Ubuntu keeps returning: Device is not available: Success - I have the bluez drivers and utils, I also have the USB BT drivers enabled in the kernel.  Please help, thanks.
[12:34] <steal_> hi
[12:34] <Kyral> DannoHung: Do you have the right WEP keys, etc?
[12:34] <siorfin> can anyone help me install ndiswrapper
[12:35] <DannoHung> Unsecured network
[12:35] <jasoncohen> DannoHung, what happens?
[12:35] <siorfin> i have it installed and am following directions for ubuntu but the stupid thing wont load
[12:35] <steal_> have u ever install gnupoc for symbianOS on ubuntu?
[12:35] <cmatheson> PoliteCyborg: why would that be any different from the drivers on a standard keyboard?
[12:35] <DannoHung> Lessee, the message is "No DHCPOFFERS received"
[12:35] <Dj_AlTeK> Seveas: I got wine to work!
[12:35] <DannoHung> It jumps back and forth between a couple of different intervals
[12:35] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, awesome!
[12:35] <jasoncohen> DannoHung, does it work with a static IP?
[12:36] <florian> hi, how can i install latex 2e instead of latex 2.09?
[12:36] <siorfin> anyone know how to install ndiswrapper
[12:36] <DannoHung> Hmm, haven't tried that yet, let me se if I can make the router play nice for once.
[12:36] <siorfin> ive been working on this for a day and it is really starting to piss me off, excuse my french
[12:36] <afroman> jasoncohen, so???
[12:36] <Dj_AlTeK> i also got Ares to run under wine... now i just have to figure out how to install half life 2 and steam under wine
[12:36] <jasoncohen> Kyral, heh, i still am amazed by the number of unencrypted wireless networks. i use WPA-PSK here
[12:37] <jasoncohen> afroman, so what?
[12:37] <AWatcher>  I am trying to understand if I can get my windows (Ubuntu with wine obviously... thats what I use) program to communicate with the innernet
[12:37] <Gskillet> DJ_Altek is wine difficult to setup on ubuntu
[12:37] <Dj_AlTeK> AWatcher i was running a p2p program on wine in ubuntu just a minute ago
[12:37] <Dj_AlTeK> Gskillet: depends on which way you go
[12:38] <siorfin> ndiswrapper, can someone help me
[12:38] <Gskillet> Dj_Altek i can download the package off of Synaptic
[12:38] <Dj_AlTeK> Gskillet: whatever you do, do not try to compile the cvs of wine
[12:38] <Dj_AlTeK> Gskillet, yea
[12:38] <afroman> jasoncohen, what prog do I run on windows so that I take control of my Linux machine
[12:38] <Gskillet> ok
[12:38] <jasoncohen> afroman, realvnc.com - download the windows client
[12:38] <jasoncohen> client/server
[12:38] <AWatcher> for example... I have a internet caller id program I use to monitor if I get calls while online... ny1?
[12:39] <xxtreme> gskillet, wine is cool but most of the apps you want will not work
[12:39] <afroman> jasoncohen, isn't tightvnc enough??
[12:39] <DannoHung> Dangit... this thing has too many menus... can't find the static routing table
[12:39] <Gskillet> xxtreme thats what i figure, dont know if i should try it
[12:39] <afroman> jasoncohen, what about nx???
[12:39] <Dj_AlTeK> AWatcher; is it made for windows?
[12:39] <xxtreme> gskillet= dont waste ur time, trust me
[12:39] <AWatcher> DJ: yes
[12:39] <jasoncohen> afroman, well, you need a windows server and tightvnc is just for linux
[12:39] <Gskillet> xxtreme i figure it cant interpret the GUI of the stuff i need
[12:39] <jasoncohen> afroman, just get the official vnc 4 server/client from realvnc.com
[12:40] <Dj_AlTeK> AWatcher, is it set up and working?
[12:40] <jasoncohen> for windows
[12:40] <AWatcher> DJ: for my windows XP program yes
[12:40] <PoliteCyborg> cmatheson, because it wouldn't be qwerty
[12:40] <xxtreme> gskillet= do u have fast box
[12:40] <steal_> \
[12:40] <Dj_AlTeK> Awatcher: and you want it running on linux using wine?
[12:40] <Gskillet> xxtreme nah the one im on right now is a celeron, im using it for network diagnostics
[12:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> just a question is ubuntu really affect crappy on board soundcards?
[12:40] <DannoHung> Ah HAH!
[12:40] <DannoHung> Ther eit is.
[12:40] <AWatcher> DJ: yes!:)
[12:41] <xxtreme> gskillet= find another alternative, i went down that road long time ago
[12:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so that the prgram using the sound card only puts out 1 sound per program?
[12:41] <Gskillet> xxtreme yeah thanks
[12:41] <cut0ff_> hi all!
[12:41] <xxtreme> gkillet= plus linux can do all the things and more, stick with linux,
[12:41] <Dj_AlTeK> Awatcher: just get wine through SPM and run as user NOT root "wine <insert name of program here>"
[12:41] <Dj_AlTeK> and it should start up
[12:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm sticking with linux but i got to get a better box
[12:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> this one really really sucks
[12:42] <AWatcher> DJ: SPM?
[12:42] <Dj_AlTeK> i got an ok box here
[12:42] <Dj_AlTeK> Awatcher: Synaptic Package Manager
[12:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> mines an ibm netvista
[12:42] <Dj_AlTeK> Awatcher: but you got to add two repositories
[12:42] <Dj_AlTeK> mine's an old compaq 5420 us
[12:42] <MadHatter> ok, I have an iPod, but I can't get it to sync with either GTKpod or Rhythmbox
[12:42] <Gskillet> xxtreme linux has been great so far, kismet etc.. now i just need to get my bluetooth usb working - thats the only real trouble i have had so far, its so easy on windows
[12:42] <MadHatter> any ideas?
[12:43] <AWatcher> DJ: the program I use... the one were talking about minimizes to the systray sometimes... is that problematic?
[12:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> with 256mb pc 133 and a 120 gig hd
[12:43] <Dj_AlTeK> AWatcher: nope there's gonna be a box that you can move around that acts like the systray
[12:43] <xxtreme> gskillet= let me do some research on it
[12:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it really sucks
[12:44] <AWatcher> DJ: Awesome!:D     :D      :D      :D       :D Thanks!
[12:44] <Dj_AlTeK> lol
[12:44] <jasoncohen> any timeframe on when breezy is going to be in a useable state? I'm currently using debian sid so i don't mind some problems
[12:44] <Gskillet> xxtreme thanks for the help, i think im just overlooking something but cant get anyone else to see what im doing wrong, ive got the dongle in.. bluez utils and drivers.. and usb bluetooth is enabled in kernel by default
[12:44] <MadHatter> does anyone here have an iPod with their Ubuntu?
[12:44] <Dj_AlTeK> ipods suck!
[12:44] <Gskillet> madhatter use gtkpod
[12:45] <Seveas> ipods are cool :)
[12:45] <xxtreme> gskillet= give me ur info on that device
[12:45] <MadHatter> I have gtkpod, but when I try to sync, it says, iPod directory structure must be present before synching to the iPod can be performed.
[12:45] <jasoncohen> and rhythmbox works with an ipod
[12:45] <liz4rd> i'm install ing ubuntu-desktop...and WTF is vnc-common?
[12:45] <liz4rd> its taking forever to install
[12:45] <liz4rd> :P
[12:46] <Dj_AlTeK> Seveas: is there anyway i can get MSI installed on my fake windows directory and install from cd's?
[12:46] <liz4rd> ooh ther it goes
[12:46] <Seveas> Dj_AlTeK, no idea
[12:46] <Gskillet> xxtreme theres no real specifics on it, that's my problem, i got the cheapest thing i could find and its a BluetoothTM USB Dongle
[12:46] <Dj_AlTeK> son of a bitch!
[12:46] <desolator> good afternoon ubuntu lovers!
[12:46] <jasoncohen> liz4rd, it's a package used by vnc-viewer- used for remote desktop connections
[12:46] <xxtreme> gskillet= we can do this
[12:46] <liz4rd> whoa cool
[12:46] <desolator> I would like to install ubuntu on a partition
[12:46] <Gskillet> madhatter i think there are some alternatives to gtk, its just the only one i know that is easy to find
[12:46] <desolator> is there anything special I need to know about?
[12:47] <Dj_AlTeK> ne1 here know how i can get msi installed on my windows directory and install from cd using wine??!!
[12:47] <afroman> jasoncohen, I can't get through, I dunno why...
[12:47] <brady> how do i tell what opengl version i have. specifically, i would like to know if i have opengl 2.0 support.
[12:47] <Gskillet> xxtreme the model number is BT3030 if that helps
[12:47] <MadHatter> ok, I'm going to try to hook it to my old windows box, to see if it causes it to START working.  lol.
[12:47] <xxtreme> gskillet= thanks
[12:47] <Gskillet> madhatter try searching for Gnome ipod on google or something
[12:47] <desolator> is there any cool ubuntu installer
[12:47] <MadHatter> ok, thanks Gskillet
[12:48] <desolator> or something really leet and slick about ubuntu
[12:48] <jasoncohen> afroman, you have to be more specific. you can't get through to what? are you trying to connect to your linux box from windows or from windows to linux? do you have a firewall running? you'll need to open up port 5900-5901 TCP. are you using the correct ip?
[12:48] <siorfin> i have downloaded NDISWRAPPER source from synaptic what directory is it stored in so i can compile it
[12:48] <afroman> I have installed the vnc real, as U said and i can't view my Linux machine
[12:48] <Gskillet> desolator ubuntu's installer is built in if your doing it off a CD for example
[12:48] <desolator> oh sure!
[12:48] <Gskillet> desolator ubuntu can be noted for automatically detecting hardware without many problems
[12:48] <desolator> excellent
[12:49] <desolator> sorry for not reading topic, I am just too distracted latelly
[12:49] <Lunahood> hi @all
[12:49] <bluefoxicy> synaptic is smoking crack.
[12:49] <FireJocker> hi
[12:49] <bluefoxicy> I search for sunbird and get  schoolbell
[12:49] <bluefoxicy> the desc has no mention of sunbird
[12:49] <desolator> crack is bad for your health, so does hping
[12:49] <Gskillet> xxtreme i figured that the usb setup wouldnt require much more than bluez, but apparently it does -- maybe my firmware is incompat
[12:49] <siorfin> can ANYONE help me? im guessing no since no one has said a thing ;op
[12:49] <afroman> jasoncohen, I switched off the firewall... when I double click to VNC viewer 4, a window saying server where I fill in the IP address and I used the right ip address
[12:49] <desolator> now, lets read the nice and cool stuff at the great ubuntu website ^^
[12:50] <Gskillet> soiorfin maybe try searching for the folder?
[12:50] <jasoncohen> afroman, it's not just the address, you must specify the port
[12:50] <jasoncohen> afroman, ipaddress:1 = ipaddress:5901
[12:50] <siorfin> how do i do that, i am not familiar with gnome
[12:50] <Gskillet> siorfin try Search for files under places
[12:50] <Lunahood> if there is any german ubuntu user there, who knows about "usb-wlan-sticks" and wpa-psk ... please qry me
[12:50] <jasoncohen> afroman, vnc on linux by default uses 5901..then 5902 and so forth. you can run multiple vnc servers- it'll just go up one port
[12:50] <jasoncohen> afroman, if you run x11vnc you can use the current X session on 5900
[12:51] <Seveas> wpa-psk is a bitch
[12:51] <Seveas> try wiki.ubuntu.com/wpahowto
[12:51] <munki> how do i get the kernel source in ubuntu ? need it too install vmware .
[12:51] <Seveas> munki, i think you only need the headers for that
[12:51] <jasoncohen> Seveas, works fine here
[12:51] <Seveas> sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:51] <Lunahood> thnx seveas, ill try it
[12:52] <Seveas> jasoncohen, here too, but it's a bitch to setup, especially for newbies :)
[12:52] <jasoncohen> Lunahood, you'll need to use wpasupplicant which is fairly difficult to setup
[12:52] <jasoncohen> what wireless driver do you use?
[12:52] <Danno> Hooray!  It works now
[12:52] <munki> f~jasoncohen-> thnx .
[12:52] <Danno> Still strange that it didn't obtain a dynamic address
[12:52] <desolator> well young lads, thanks for the help
[12:52] <jasoncohen> munki, ?
[12:53] <Danno> Hmmm... now to see if I can still use it regular like
[12:53] <desolator> when you get old and grumpy like me you get to find everything offensive and ugly
[12:53] <KillerSmurf> I'm trying to ./configure a driver and I'm getting this error "Unable to compile wacom_drv.o without XF86 build environment or Xorg SDK." What can I do to fix this?
[12:53] <Seveas> KillerSmurf, aptitude install xorg-dev
[12:53] <xxtreme> gkillet= where u get the driver from
[12:53] <PoliteCyborg> desolator, that's what retirement communities are for. =)
[12:53] <izzo> KillerSmurf you need to download xorg
[12:53] <jasoncohen> Seveas, that URL doesn't work
[12:53] <Lunahood> i dont understand why "ndiswrapper -l" shows me my "driver present"-status, but iwconfig doesnt show the configured wlan0 interface :/
[12:53] <Seveas> but the wacom drivers are included with ubuntu iirc
[12:53] <desolator> so, I guess Kubuntu works 100% fine
[12:53] <desolator> oh no
[12:53] <Seveas> jasoncohen, then it's removed :((
[12:54] <cmatheson> KillerSmurf: you need to apt-get install xlibs-dev
[12:54] <izzo> xxtreme I am gskillet my other comp ran out of batteries, i got the driver from Synaptec
[12:54] <desolator> im not going to get into that grave yet :)
[12:54] <KillerSmurf> Seveas and izzo Thanks
[12:54] <izzo> np
[12:54] <Kyral> Anyone know why I cannot install XChat 2.4.4 even after I converted the RPM successfully with Alien?
[12:54] <xxtreme> izzo= does ubuntu recognizes it
[12:54] <izzo> xxtreme it was bluez-driver and bluez-utils
[12:54] <jasoncohen> Seveas, i use madwifi + wpasupplicant. do you know if the prism54 cvs supports it? the website is unclear
[12:54] <Seveas> afaik it does
[12:54] <PoliteCyborg> Kyral, it's easier just to compile from source
[12:54] <izzo> xxtreme i did a dmesg and i think it is showing a bluetooth reciever connected, no real errors there
[12:55] <izzo> xxtreme but when i try to run bluetooth software of any kind it says Device not found: success
[12:55] <Kyral> Yah, its givin me errors about overwriting something used by XChat Common
[12:55] <Seveas> Kyral, duh...
[12:55] <Seveas> do not just randomly grab rpms and try to install them...
[12:55] <Seveas> that's SO not going to work...
[12:55] <Kyral> so remove XChat and Common and use this one?
[12:56] <Lunahood> are you sure, that the package calls "wpasupplicant" ... doesnt find it with apt-get
[12:56] <Kyral> ah never mind I put in a Backports request
[12:56] <Seveas> 2.4.3 is in the backports, why do you want 2.4.4 specifically?
[12:56] <PoliteCyborg> Kyral, uninstall XChat and compile from source, and use checkinstall to simplify
[12:56] <djm62> if I compile a .deb on my hoary machine, it's just i386 generic and suitable for any hoary machine?
[12:56] <izzo> Does anyone know where the bootlog is stored?
[12:56] <Seveas> izzo, /var/log/dmesg
[12:56] <Kyral> Seveas: I'm one of those guys that wants the latest version :P
[12:56] <Seveas> izzo, /var/log/kern.log
[12:56] <izzo> thx
[12:57] <PoliteCyborg> Kyral, and I'm telling you how to accomplish it
[12:57] <Kyral> You have no idea how hard it is for me NOT to upgrade to Breezy right now :P
[12:57] <xxtreme> izzo= check infocenter and see is it there
[12:57] <Seveas> Kyral, ghe, that is so against the spirit of a stable distribution like Ubuntu :)
[12:57] <Kyral> PoliteCyborg thanks :D
[12:57] <doonz> hey you guy recomend some mp3 players that work with this distro
[12:57] <Seveas> Kyral, I have :)
[12:57] <siorfin> 500 people and this channel isnt very helpful at all ;op thanks anyways
[12:57] <xxtreme> izzo-kmenu, system, infocenter
[12:57] <Kyral> lol
[12:57] <Kyral> Actuallyu I have upgraded, and it nuked my system :P
[12:57] <izzo> xxtreme i'm on gnome
[12:58] <jasoncohen> Kyral, what's so great in 2.4.4?
[12:58] <xxtreme> izzo lol
[12:58] <Kyral> dunno, I'm gonna find out :P
[12:58] <Seveas> the i-have-the-latest-version-kick jasoncohen :)
[12:58] <Kyral> yah :D
[12:58] <Seveas> personally I prefer stability over that
[12:58] <jasoncohen> heh
[12:58] <jasoncohen> xchat 2.4.4 in windows supports spellchecking with aspell
[12:58] <Kyral> Now you know why I stick with the current 2.6.10-5 kernel
[12:58] <jasoncohen> now if the linux version had that i would want to ugrade
[12:58] <jasoncohen> *upgrade
[12:58] <xxtreme> izzo= in gnome, look for hardware, open it up look for that device
[12:59] <Kyral> jasoncohen: There is a plugin
[12:59] <Kyral> XSpell
[12:59] <Kyral> I
[12:59] <Kyral> am using it right now
[12:59] <Lunahood> how i can find out the "network-chip" of my usb-wlan-stick ?
[12:59] <Seveas> jasoncohen, spellchecking on irc, LOL
[12:59] <izzo> xxtreme ill check out
[12:59] <Seveas> as if anybody will use it :)
[12:59] <xxtreme> izzo= ihad the same problem with a thumbdrive
[12:59] <Kyral> I do :P
[12:59] <jasoncohen> Kyral, cool- is it included in sid?
[12:59] <Seveas> Lunahood, try lsusb after you plug it in
[12:59] <Kyral> what XSpell?
[12:59] <izzo> xxtreme now im having problems with my stupid network card, strange how other stuff breaks when trying to fix something
[12:59] <jasoncohen> yeah
[12:59] <afroman> jasoncohen, it works but not I was expecting... I get to control the Linux computer but I don't see what is on the screen nor does the screen show what I'm doing
[12:59] <Kyral> go to the scripts portion of the XChat Site
[01:00] <afroman> jasoncohen, not like from Linux to Windows
[01:00] <AWatcher> DJ: I can't find any info on SPM (Sysntetic Package manager) an why I need it with wine:/.......
[01:00] <Kyral> so I just do ./configure && make && sudo checkinstall?
[01:01] <jasoncohen> afroman, what do you mean you don't see what you're doing?
[01:01] <jasoncohen> Kyral, thanks
[01:02] <Kyral> np
[01:02] <Curlydave> hey
[01:02] <Curlydave> does anyone know hwo to reinstall/reset gnome
[01:02] <Curlydave> so that it actually loads
[01:02] <Curlydave> that would rock
[01:02] <PoliteCyborg> Kyral, unless you want extra options
[01:02] <Kyral> like?
[01:02] <Seveas> Curlydave, what is the current error then?
[01:02] <PoliteCyborg> Kyral, see any readme/install files for info
[01:03] <Kyral> okay
[01:03] <afroman> jasoncohen, what I'm doing on my windows machine can't be seen on the linux machine
[01:03] <jasoncohen> afroman, so if you vnc into the windows machine..you can't see what you're doing on the windows machine?
[01:03] <Curlydave> Seveas: no error, just a mouse cursor and tha'ts it
[01:03] <jasoncohen> *vnc into the windows machine from linux
[01:03] <Curlydave> Seveas: i can get into x, or an emergency console and shit works if i know the command
[01:04] <Curlydave> Seveas: but if i try gnome i just get a cursor
[01:04] <Curlydave> which blows
[01:04] <Seveas> kinda...
[01:04] <Seveas> which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[01:05] <afroman> jasoncohen, U see I run vnc to run Ubuntu on Windows
[01:05] <afroman> jasoncohen, but what I was doing on my windows machine I couldn't see it onthe Ubuntu screeen
[01:06] <xxtreme> gskillet= did u download bluez
[01:07] <phinnaeus> what is the procedure forgetting sensors for gdesklets?
[01:08] <jasoncohen> afroman, well, what did you see on the ubuntu viewer?
[01:08] <fnoy> hi
[01:08] <t0lkman> get the new user of ubuntu
[01:08] <t0lkman> thanks for the OS
[01:08] <fnoy> i just installed ubntu
[01:08] <t0lkman> now please help me, install mp3 codecs
[01:08] <fnoy> can some one tell me how to install kde
[01:08] <djs> fnoy, !restricted
[01:08] <Seveas> t0lkman: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[01:09] <djs> !restricted
[01:09] <ubotu> somebody said restricted was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:09] <fnoy> ..
[01:09] <Curlydave> hey online somoeme posted how to reinstall the system or something liek that
[01:09] <t0lkman> becouse i would like to listen some music ;)
[01:09] <Curlydave> but it needs su
[01:09] <Seveas> fnoy, sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[01:09] <Curlydave> and su tells me "sorry, authentication failed"
[01:09] <t0lkman> Seveas,  big thanks dear
[01:09] <Curlydave> what's up with that?
[01:09] <Seveas> fnoy, and a few minutes later you have KDE :)
[01:09] <fnoy> thx
[01:09] <fnoy> thx pal
[01:09] <xxtreme> fnoy= you need to install kde3.4
[01:09] <Curlydave> does anyone know how to use su?
[01:09] <fnoy> yes
[01:10] <phinnaeus> does anyone know how i can access my second hard drive?
[01:10] <phinnaeus> i cant seem to get it
[01:10] <Seveas> xxtreme, well, better install kubuntu-desktop for a good KDE experience :)
[01:10] <jasoncohen> Curlydave, ubuntu uses sudo
[01:10] <Curlydave> why is it appologizing and saying authentication failed?
[01:10] <xxtreme> fnoy= first you need to add more source to ur repository list
[01:10] <jasoncohen> Curlydave, "reinstall the system or something like that"?
[01:10] <Curlydave> jasoncohen: i was told for what i'm doing it's too hardcare for sudo and i need su
[01:10] <yuacht> hwo do i chmod a folder with sudo to make my user able to read/write it?
[01:10] <fnoy> ok
[01:10] <xxtreme> fnoy= then synaptic kde 3.4base
[01:10] <Curlydave> because i can't get into gnome anymore
[01:10] <apollo2011> I am trying to install AIM for Linux and I am not sure if I use Debian 2.1 or Debian 3+ package for Ubuntu Hoary
[01:10] <Seveas> Curlydave, nothing is too hardcare for sudo...
[01:10] <jasoncohen> lol, too hardcore for sudo?
[01:10] <djm62> Curlydave: somebody is telling you fibs...
[01:10] <Seveas> xxtreme, well, better install kubuntu-desktop for a good KDE experience :) <---
[01:10] <jasoncohen> what are you trying to do anyways?
[01:10] <Curlydave> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43617
[01:10] <mz2> if i have a folder in which i have an album as mp3's with no id3 tags, how do i get them to be identified and tagged through cddb?
[01:10] <Curlydave> here you go
[01:11] <Seveas> not just kde3.4...
[01:11] <revildab[tm] > have some of the debian repositories changed with the release of sarge? I keep getting update errors on 2 adresses, md5 mismatches
[01:11] <Curlydave> make gnome work
[01:11] <jasoncohen> sudo command or sudo -s to get a root shell
[01:11] <apollo2011> I am trying to install AIM for Linux and I am not sure if I use Debian 2.1 or Debian 3+ package for Ubuntu Hoary
[01:11] <Curlydave> and then it'll work? k i'll try that ty
[01:11] <ThE__OnE> how can i play avi files?
[01:11] <jasoncohen> Curlydave, wait a second
[01:11] <xxtreme> seveas= first he needs the base package u agree
[01:11] <Curlydave> k
[01:11] <jasoncohen> Curlydave, before using some random command- how exactly doesn't gnome work and what command are you using to fix it?
[01:11] <phinnaeus> can someone help me access my second hdd ?
[01:11] <ThE__OnE> i tried mplayer, vlc, and Totem
[01:11] <Seveas> xxtreme, kubuntu-desktop installs that
[01:12] <battlecat> You know the Debian people are really rude!
[01:12] <Seveas> xxtreme, please read up on metapackages...
[01:12] <AWatcher> if I type: WINEDLLOVERRIDES="ole32=n" wine dcom98.exe :::::::: How does wine know where the dcom98.exe file is?
[01:12] <apollo2011> I am trying to install AIM for Linux and I am not sure if I use Debian 2.1 or Debian 3+ package for Ubuntu Hoary
[01:12] <djm62> battlecat: which is why I use ubuntu, at least partially....the ubuntu folk are really friendly so ask away
[01:12] <apollo2011> is Ubuntu based on Debian 2.1 or 3+?
[01:12] <xxtreme> seveas= he doesn't have that yet
[01:12] <jasoncohen> Curlydave, one of the ideas of having a root user or using sudo is to make you think before using a command. so what are you trying to do?
[01:12] <Curlydave> jasoncohen: my bro said he rebooted his comp, and now all he gets when booting into gnome is a mouse cursor on a brown background
[01:12] <phinnaeus> hmmm
[01:12] <Curlydave> jasoncohen: i just want gnome working, and i don't know what i'm trying to do
[01:12] <jasoncohen> apollo2011, you use the hoary package - why not try gaim
[01:12] <Curlydave> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43617
[01:13] <Seveas> xxtreme, then he should upgrade to hoary
[01:13] <Curlydave> i'm doing what xine recommends on that post
[01:13] <Seveas> kde on warty will not be a fun ride
[01:13] <xxtreme> seveas= im taking him the right wat
[01:13] <apollo2011> jasoncohen:  I have gaim now but it doesn't have a search feature.  I don't see a ubuntu package for the actual AOL Aim
[01:13] <concept10> battlecat, I watched the whole thing, what do you need help with
[01:13] <jasoncohen> apollo2011, there isn't one
[01:14] <Seveas> xxtreme, not really, KDE on warty is NOT the right way...
[01:14] <t0lkman> anyone can suggest me some php editor?
[01:14] <jasoncohen> you need to download it from their site i think
[01:14] <jasoncohen> i don't believe debian has one either
[01:14] <apollo2011> jasoncohen: so should I try the Debian 2.1 or 3+?
[01:14] <ghostless> I'm having problems installing VMware...Has anyone here successfully installed it?
[01:14] <jasoncohen> apollo2011, you mean AIM's site has debian packages- try the most recent one - 3.1 if they have it
[01:15] <Seveas> t0lkman, vim
[01:15] <Razor-X> hmmm... is the Das keyboard really worth it...
[01:15] <jasoncohen> it probably won't work though- do they have a source package?
[01:15] <apollo2011> jasonchoen: yeah they have a linux version believe it or not
[01:15] <Seveas> Razor-X, yes :D
[01:15] <battlecat> concept10: I am looking to have a set of offline packages on CD.
[01:15] <jasoncohen> Curlydave, then follow the directions that guy gave you to create a root account
[01:15] <jasoncohen> Curlydave, i don't see why you can't do it with sudo
[01:15] <Razor-X> Seveas: but the Ctrl key is weighted at 60 grams
[01:15] <battlecat> concept10: I do not have a highspeed connection for hte linux box.
[01:15] <jasoncohen> and if gnome is broken, why re-install the entire system
[01:15] <jasoncohen> why not just gnome?
[01:15] <Razor-X> errrr, 80 rather
[01:16] <t0lkman> seveas one more thanks
[01:16] <concept10> battlecat, depends on what package you are looking for.  You can install from the cd using synaptic
[01:16] <Seveas> t0lkman, nvu (from backports)
[01:16] <jasoncohen> apollo2011, try the 3+
[01:16] <t0lkman> and one more question, there is something like macromedie dreamveaver for html WYSIWYG design ?
[01:16] <jasoncohen> apollo2011, though i wouldn't except good debian package from AOL
[01:16] <Seveas> t0lkman, nvu (from backports) <--
[01:17] <t0lkman> ok thanks
[01:17] <Razor-X> i've noticed something... the hardware 'geek' is nothing close to a true linux geek
[01:17] <ThE__OnE> someone help me, how can i play .avi files with ubuntu? I tried Totem, VLC(dont play audio), MPlayer.
[01:17] <Seveas> ThE__OnE: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[01:17] <jasoncohen> apollo2011, what do you mean gaim doesn't have a search feature?
[01:17] <Razor-X> ThE__OnE: what codec does it use?
[01:17] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, it's probably divx/xvid if you cannot play it
[01:17] <battlecat> concept10: okay I like that synaptic prog but what if I have no internet connection and want say cinepaint or kino?
[01:17] <Razor-X> Seveas: and what explains VLC?
[01:18] <jasoncohen> apollo2011, tools > search for buddies by email
[01:18] <apollo2011> jasonchoen: I would prefer not to use AOL software either.  gaim doesn't allow you to search for people's sn
[01:18] <apollo2011> hmm
[01:18] <djm62> oh damn,  apt-zip?
[01:18] <ThE__OnE> xvid is not playable?
[01:18] <AWatcher> I was reading this site: http://frankscorner.org/index.php?p=ishield :::: and it says to type WINEDLLOVERRIDES="ole32=n" wine dcom98.exe to install DCOM98.  Now... Question is... if I grabbed dcom98.exe, how does wine know where to get it... I mean, I seen no directory change and path in this command;)
[01:18] <ThE__OnE> in ubuntu?
[01:18] <Seveas> ThE__OnE, not by default
[01:18] <Razor-X> why is the Ctrl key weighted at 80 grams?
[01:18] <Seveas> see the url I gave you
[01:18] <concept10> battlecat, if its not on the cd, you need a internet connection
[01:18] <Razor-X> ThE__OnE: see the wiki link Seveas gave you
[01:18] <ThE__OnE> ok
[01:18] <apollo2011> jasoncohen: hmm didn't see that because it is in a sub menu
[01:19] <djm62> concept10: battlecat: not necessarily...apt-cache show apt-zip
[01:19] <apollo2011> jasoncohen: screw the AOL software now!
[01:19] <jasoncohen> apollo2011, lol- what do you mean search for people's SN?
[01:19] <battlecat> concept10: I see.  I use it for offline work like graphics and such anyways.
[01:20] <AWatcher> does ubuntu have cvs installed automatically
[01:21] <jasoncohen> apollo2011, and gaim is constantly getting security updates...   The AOL software is messed up countless of me and my friend's computers :-P
[01:21] <jasoncohen> AWatcher, i doubt it - apt-get install cvs
[01:22] <battlecat> concept10: I do not have one no.
[01:22] <battlecat> concept10: The computer I want to run Ubuntu doesnt even have a modem
[01:22] <Burrito> hi every1
[01:22] <Razor-X> anyone here use a Das keyboard?
[01:22] <jasoncohen> concept10, do you use ubuntu? we were just talking about #debian.
[01:22] <Burrito> does somebody have a tv capture card chipset saa7130?
[01:22] <battlecat> concept10: I has a nice set of ram a great video card and several external hard drives
[01:23] <jasoncohen> Burrito, the wonder of google - http://linux.bytesex.org/v4l2/saa7134.html
[01:23] <t0lkman> oh i have more questions... i have downloaded skype skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb   how i install it? on fedora i did rpm - i
[01:23] <battlecat> concept10: What I am interested in are progs like inkscape and cinepaint and kino.
[01:23] <concept10> jasoncohen, I run alot of distros, ubuntu, bsd, debian and fedora
[01:24] <jasoncohen> Burrito, modprobe saa7134
[01:24] <concept10> jasoncohen, ubuntu desktop, everything else server
[01:24] <revildab[tm] > does installing kdebase still play havoc with the main gnome menu?
[01:24] <Burrito> but
[01:24] <Burrito> 7130=7134?
[01:24] <jasoncohen> concept10, i use debian sid on my desktop, sarge on my server
[01:24] <djm62> revildab[tm] : installing kubuntu-desktop?
[01:24] <Curlydave> jasoncohen: i got root working
[01:24] <Curlydave> jasoncohen: but now it's pulling the whole bullshit error,  run apt-get update to fix it
[01:24] <concept10> jasoncohen, im trying to learn *nix, not just a distro, thats why I frown on #debian guys for being rude to people
[01:25] <Curlydave> but apt-get update does stuff
[01:25] <Curlydave> but it doenst' fix it
[01:25] <jasoncohen> concept10, i'm waiting for breezy. hoary trashed my mdk install so i'm about leery of it and esd didn't work properly in hoary but it works fine in sid with gnome 2.10
[01:25] <ghostless> I am having trouble installing vmware...When I try to install it I get errors like "unable to copy file" or something else related to permissions...And I am running it with sudo...But it's like I don't have full privelages...Any ideas why?
[01:25] <revildab[tm] > djm62: no, just the base required files.  Im looking to install a wireless config that requires kde libraries, but i dont really want to do it if it will add unecessary entries to the gnome menu
[01:25] <jasoncohen> Curlydave, you shoudl apt-get update
[01:25] <concept10> jasoncohen, mdk?
[01:25] <jasoncohen> concept10, what do you use BSD for?
[01:25] <battlecat> :) Its been fun guys but it looks like it is back to WinXP for me.
[01:26] <mcquillg> I'm trying to compile something from source and I keep running into this configure error: checking size of long long... configure: error: cannot compute sizeof (long long), 77
[01:26] <jasoncohen> concept10, mandrake- now mandriva - used 9.1 through 2005 LE- then switched to debian
[01:26] <battlecat> Cant get any work done if I am tinkering with the OS all day
[01:26] <mcquillg> I haven't found a consistant answer for fixing it. Any ideas?
[01:26] <jasoncohen> battlecat, what's the problem?
[01:26] <concept10> jasoncohen, nothing currently - I have no use for it now, I will be setting up a server on it soon.
[01:26] <Curlydave> jasoncohen: i did apt-get update, like it said
[01:26] <djm62> battlecat: ach well, look in again in october...things are only improving
[01:26] <Curlydave> jasoncohen: that did alot of things
[01:26] <Curlydave> jasoncohen: however, fixing the problem was not one of them. it still did it again
[01:27] <concept10> jasoncohen, I have 4 boxes that are networked in my closet that I just screw around with, just trying to learn *nix
[01:28] <t0lkman> anyone please help me install skype ;[
[01:28] <jasoncohen> concept10, cool
[01:28] <jasoncohen> Curlydave, what exactly is the error?
[01:28] <netsurf> i love skype :)
[01:28] <mcquillg> Has anyone had a "sizeof (long long)" configure problem when compiling something from source?
[01:28] <djm62> gah...I guess tokenbad is working
[01:28] <t0lkman> netsurf,  help me use it ;]
[01:29] <netsurf> whats the problem with it?
[01:29] <AWatcher> what is the wine system directory location?
[01:30] <yuacht> whereis wine
[01:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know how to configure the mail app in krellm?
[01:30] <AWatcher> that actually works
[01:30] <TokenBad> who was helping me with electricsheep i forgot his nick
[01:30] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> gkrellm even
[01:30] <AWatcher> ?
[01:30] <djm62> I've compiled the latest version of electricsheep as a .deb for hoary i386:  there's one error when installing (tries to overwrite file provided by xscreensaver), how do I fix that, and where can I constructively put the package?
[01:30] <yuacht> AWatcher, yupp
[01:30] <mcquillg> no love for source compilations?
[01:30] <ThE__OnE> so for sound to be played, i need to install it on ubuntu?
[01:30] <djm62> TokenBad: what gnus?
[01:30] <netsurf> t0lkman, what is your problem with it?
[01:30] <t0lkman> netsurf,  i can install the .deb on my amd64
[01:30] <TokenBad> djm62, it don't work just sits on that screen...never changes
[01:31] <t0lkman> i have downloaded it, what my next step?
[01:31] <mcquillg> Has anyone compiled anything on a Ubuntu system?
[01:31] <netsurf> t0lkman do you have the x64 package for it?
[01:31] <djm62> TokenBad: !
[01:31] <t0lkman> i am sitting and looking on the distrib ;]
[01:31] <mcquillg> Problems, yes, no?
[01:31] <TokenBad> I let it sit for good 15 mins
[01:31] <t0lkman> netsurf,  i dunno, what was on the skype web site
[01:31] <TokenBad> which is more than it says should be
[01:31] <IFRFLYR> HI, little kismet help? Trying to find out why it's dying at "Unable to set up pidfile /var/run//kismet_server.pid, couldn't open for writing:" Erm.. I never set it at /var/run//kismet (how can I *unchange* it?)
[01:31] <netsurf> hmm
[01:31] <t0lkman> but on fedore i run it
[01:32] <djm62> TokenBad: I'm lost, then...mine didn't work for a while, then I did System->Lock Screen and it must have downloaded in between
[01:32] <t0lkman> so if there is 64bit version for fedora, i suppose there is also for ubunta
[01:32] <TokenBad> system lock screen?
[01:32] <TokenBad> what is that?
[01:33] <netsurf> so what does it do on attempted install?
[01:34] <t0lkman> i dunno even how to start install ;]
[01:34] <t0lkman> i never have installed the .deb
[01:34] <stevenj> Is evince better than acrobat reader? thanks
[01:34] <netsurf> ahh
[01:34] <netsurf> lol
[01:34] <netsurf> hmm
[01:34] <djm62> TokenBad: System menu, menu item Lock Screen
[01:34] <netsurf> what is command for .deb install anyone?
[01:34] <rob^> was someone talking to me?
[01:34] <TokenBad> ok
[01:35] <QMario> Where can I get the Java plug-in for Mozilla Firefox?
[01:35] <djm62> TokenBad: saves on waiting for screensaver timeout
[01:35] <netsurf> t0lkman
[01:35] <IFRFLYR> netsurf: dpkg package
[01:35] <t0lkman> netsurf,  dunno
[01:35] <netsurf> tty
[01:35] <netsurf> ok
[01:35] <t0lkman> dpkg ?
[01:35] <t0lkman> ok i'll try
[01:35] <netsurf> so dpkg "exact name.deb"
[01:35] <netsurf> btw
[01:36] <netsurf> t0lkman
[01:36] <netsurf> http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?t=10125
[01:36] <netsurf> check that out for 64bit
[01:36] <zerokills> netsurf: ummm, i havent used it before, ive heard: 'alien -i packagename' is used for .deb files
[01:36] <t0lkman> hmm netsurf  let's me see
[01:36] <t0lkman> becouse mine isi skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[01:37] <AWatcher> I downlaoded a fair amount of programs as rpm, and now that i have ubuntu, I'd like to keep those ones I already have... can it work? I am dialupper
[01:37] <netsurf> ya so should be "sudo dpkg -Uvh skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[01:37] <phinnaeus> can someone help me access files off of my second hard drive?
[01:38] <netsurf> is that right anyone?
[01:38] <tanek> AWatcher: you mean to convert .rpm to .deb?
[01:38] <Nelo> The update manager has been wanting to upgrade my kernel headers for some time now but each and every time I receive the following error: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.2_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko', which is also in package ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.10-5-386  any ideas what to do?
[01:38] <Razor-X> AWatcher: try using alien
[01:38] <phinnaeus> please?
[01:38] <t0lkman> netsurf,
[01:38] <t0lkman> oot@atilian:/home/t0lkman/Desktop # dpkg -i skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[01:38] <t0lkman> dpkg: error processing skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb (--install):
[01:38] <t0lkman>  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[01:38] <t0lkman> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:38] <t0lkman>  skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[01:38] <t0lkman> that is what i got
[01:38] <Razor-X> uggghhh!
[01:38] <QMario> Phinnaeus, shouldn't show as a filesystem?
[01:38] <Curlydave> jasoncohen: oh, no error
[01:38] <Razor-X> no spamming!
[01:38] <netsurf> ahhhhh
[01:38] <Razor-X> if you have more than 3 lines of output, please post in #flood or pastebin
[01:38] <QMario> Phinnaeus, shouldn't it show as a filesystem?
[01:38] <Curlydave> jasoncohen: just nothign mroe than a mouse cursor, unless i do failsafe terminal, in which case i get a terminal in teh corna
[01:39] <phinnaeus> QMario, no it is only showing one filesystem
[01:39] <tanek> AWatcher: if that is what you mean, then: sudo apt-get install alien fakeroot&&fakeroot alien *.rpm
[01:39] <phinnaeus> it is fat
[01:39] <phinnaeus> fat32
[01:39] <netsurf> t0lkman, did you read the forum instructions?
[01:39] <AWatcher> convert rpm to deb using that alien?
[01:39] <t0lkman> netsurf,  am doing that now ;]
[01:39] <Razor-X> t0lkman: isn't it obvious?
[01:39] <netsurf> lol
[01:39] <netsurf> ok
[01:39] <QMario> Maybe only Linux compatible filesystems show or it is hidden?
[01:39] <Razor-X> do you know what architecture is, t0lkman?
[01:39] <Razor-X> QMario: vfat has been Linux compatible for quite a while
[01:40] <t0lkman> Razor-X,  but why i hadn't troubles with fedore?
[01:40] <phinnaeus> QMario, so how can i get it to show?
[01:40] <Razor-X> and, Linux has been installed on FAT16 partitons, read up on UMSDOS
[01:40] <netsurf> fedore is rpm is it not?
[01:40] <liz4rd> how do i set KDM to default instead of GDM
[01:40] <Razor-X> t0lkman: do you know the concept of architecture?
[01:40] <QMario> I don't know. Have you searched on google?
[01:40] <t0lkman> Razor-X,  no
[01:40] <t0lkman> netsurf,  yes it is
[01:40] <Razor-X> t0lkman: you do understand that an AMD64 is different from an i386
[01:40] <t0lkman> netsurf,  there is very simple to installl
[01:41] <t0lkman> Razor-X,  understand...
[01:41] <phinnaeus> no i thought i would come here first
[01:41] <t0lkman> Razor-X,  so what to do?
[01:41] <netsurf> tolkma, i know i use suse
[01:41] <Razor-X> the AMD64 is a 64 bit chipset, the x86 system of processors are 32 bit
[01:41] <t0lkman> netsurf,  in suse also rpm ?
[01:41] <Razor-X> t0lkman: use skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_amd64.deb if there is one
[01:42] <t0lkman> Razor-X,  and if there isn't ?
[01:42] <Razor-X> did you buy this computer from a store and not know that it's AMD64?
[01:42] <t0lkman> can i install their 64bit rpm version on ubuntu?
[01:42] <QMario> Phinnaeus, try this site: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ptopic38580.html
[01:42] <Razor-X> t0lkman: either complle it, or you're out of luck
[01:42] <Razor-X> t0lkman: yeahp
[01:42] <netsurf> t0lkman, yes suse is rpm based i am talking to you on it now :P
[01:42] <t0lkman> of course i know that my computer has 64bit
[01:42] <Razor-X> netsurf: ewww, that shit distro?
[01:43] <netsurf> thanks
[01:43] <SysFail> why the hell would you be in here on suse?
[01:43] <netsurf> so kind
[01:43] <Razor-X> t0lkman: odd that you didn't know what in i386 i
[01:43] <liz4rd> how do i set KDM to default instead of GDM
[01:43] <QMario> Phinnaeus, look at this one too: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-34450.html
[01:43] <Razor-X> netsurf: well, it really is a crap distro
[01:43] <netsurf> coz i got a question on ubuntu 64bit
[01:43] <Razor-X> holds your hand even more than Fedora
[01:43] <phinnaeus> oh thanks QMario
[01:43] <netsurf> lol true
[01:43] <netsurf> i suppose
[01:43] <t0lkman> Razor-X,  so any ideas how to install skype on ubuntu 64bit ?
[01:44] <Razor-X> t0lkman: use alien, i'm assuming you know how to bring up the manual page for its syntax
[01:44] <QMario> Your welcome. :)
[01:44] <SysFail> alien works like a dream
[01:44] <Razor-X> SysFail: not always, not always ;)
[01:44] <SysFail> its never failed me yet
[01:44] <SysFail> works perfect
[01:44] <t0lkman> Razor-X,  bad help from you
[01:45] <Razor-X> t0lkman: mmmm?
[01:45] <skywater> hello. is it possible for ubuntu to connect to a windows networking?
[01:45] <Razor-X> I don't just give people a command, I tend to try to teach them something so that they don't ask a variation of the question in the future
[01:45] <AWatcher> alien works like a dream eh'?
[01:45] <SpecialBuddy> how can I write to NTFS
[01:45] <t0lkman> Razor-X,  in fact all what did you say here, didnt help me ;[
[01:45] <SpecialBuddy> ?
[01:45] <Razor-X> but, impatient people don't like that ;)
[01:45] <Razor-X> t0lkman: did you use alien?
[01:46] <djm62> SpecialBuddy: there is a thing called captiventfs
[01:46] <Razor-X> it seems most people want a command, and then leave ;)
[01:46] <t0lkman> Razor-X,  i am reading manual now ;]
[01:46] <AWatcher> maybe I should grab all the contents of my FC2 DVD and convert the good rpm's to alien;)
[01:46] <SpecialBuddy> do I have to download that?
[01:46] <netsurf> ooohh
[01:46] <Razor-X> t0lkman: ahhh, then, it should be pretty easy
[01:46] <SpecialBuddy> do I have to download that?
[01:46] <t0lkman> Razor-X,  let's see ;]
[01:46] <djs> t0lkman, I understand there is a way to run 32 bit apps on AMD64 using chroot (unfortunately that's all I know but google should know more)
[01:46] <Razor-X> djm62: you have to recompile the kernel for Captive-NTFS in Ubuntu
[01:46] <djm62> SpecialBuddy: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[01:46] <netsurf> would apt get have skype 64bit?
[01:46] <Razor-X> djs: oh yeah, I forgot about that...
[01:46] <t0lkman> djs thanks to you too
[01:46] <Nelo> I've been trying to install the linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 update, but I get an error stating that linux-image is  trying to overwrite the ndiswrapper.ko? anu ideas how to fix this?
[01:47] <djm62> SpecialBuddy: no need to repeat, and this comes with the severe caveat that Razor-X mentioned
[01:47] <truz24> Is there a reason why DMA is turned off when i restart for my CDROMS?
[01:47] <SpecialBuddy> thanks
[01:47] <crush> I'm having the same problem with ndiswrapper.
[01:47] <Gskillet> truz24 you have to add it to your boot file
[01:48] <Razor-X> odd... no-one here uses a Das Keyboard
[01:48] <djs> skywater: yes there is.  Have a look at Places -> Network Servers
[01:48] <djm62> SpecialBuddy: you probably just should treat ntfs as read-only...it's a closed system and not reliable
[01:48] <netsurf> ok my question anyone had a problem with grub? on 64bit platform
[01:48] <SpecialBuddy> what do I do at this site
[01:48] <netsurf> mine cannor mount the system
[01:48] <Gskillet> truz24 read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA?highlight=%28DMA%29
[01:48] <Razor-X> netsurf: 64 bit really isn't working for you, is it?
[01:48] <netsurf> lol no
[01:48] <crush> I'm guessing that you'd have to remove the driver, update with the wired connection and setup ndis again.
[01:48] <Gskillet> truz24 it has a section at the bottom on making DMA start on boot
[01:49] <crush> I haven't tried it yet though.
[01:49] <Razor-X> netsurf: pastebin your menu.lst
[01:49] <netsurf> but then it is a friends i am helping with ubuntu
[01:49] <zukalk> Nelo, i had that problem too. there's probably an easier way to solve it, but i simply uninstalled ndiswrapper and updated the linux-image, then reinstalled ndiswrapper :p
[01:49] <netsurf> pastbin?
[01:49] <AWatcher> how can I query to see if I got cvs in ubuntu?
[01:49] <masterloki> hi there does anybody know how to mount fat 4 all users
[01:50] <masterloki> ??
[01:50] <Razor-X> netsurf: pastebin, yeah
[01:50] <netsurf> whats that lol sorry
[01:50] <Razor-X> it's a site you can paste stuff too
[01:50] <netsurf> ahhhh
[01:50] <Razor-X> AWatcher: a simple man cvs
[01:50] <djs> AWatcher, do you mean whether it's installed or whether it's available?
[01:50] <djm62> SpecialBuddy: I can't help you anymore than that site can, I'm afraid.  you can transfer data with a removable hdd formatted to FAT or a FAT partition, running captive-ntfs isn't recommended unless you really know your stuff
[01:50] <Razor-X> netsurf: you mean, till now you've been flooding the channel? ;)
[01:50] <AWatcher> its installed... whether its installed...
[01:51] <Nelo> crush found the solution check http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37586
[01:51] <phinnaeus> hey doesn anyone know if there is a way to change the mount point of an hdd?
[01:51] <Cybermagellan> Do we have an ubuntu font?
[01:51] <yuacht> phinnaeus, sure
[01:51] <Cybermagellan> Like the logo?
[01:51] <GNULinuxer> phinnaeus> there is
[01:51] <netsurf> ooops sorry
[01:51] <Razor-X> SpecialBuddy: repartition the NTFS, and shrink it to include a small FAT partition
[01:51] <yuacht> phinnaeus, just use umount /dev/device and then remount it
[01:51] <GNULinuxer> Razor-X> hi dude
[01:51] <phinnaeus> oh ok
[01:51] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer: hey
[01:51] <phinnaeus> thanks yuacht
[01:51] <netsurf> razor-x not very accustom to the chatrooms and there toys :P
[01:52] <djm62> phinnaeus: you can unmount it and mount it elsewhere.  if you want to change persistently, it's in /etc/fstab but remember to create the mount point
[01:52] <SpecialBuddy> thanks for the help
[01:52] <fidget> does anyone know the comand line to open the screen resolution gui?
[01:52] <Razor-X> netsurf: heh, well, you sohulda read the topic
[01:52] <Burrito> hi
[01:52] <djs> AWatcher, yes "man cvs" in a terminal window would confirm
[01:52] <Burrito> i have a question
[01:52] <GNULinuxer> Burrito> ya
[01:52] <fidget> does anyone know the comand line to open the screen resolution gui?
[01:52] <netsurf> razor-x ???
[01:52] <Burrito> where is this: /path/to/kernel/source/tree ??
[01:52] <Razor-X> no-one here uses a Das Keyboard? if it's so good, where's the non-proprietary testimonials from Linux users?
[01:53] <Razor-X> netsurf: ..............  How can I do this?
[01:55] <Razor-X> OS, terminal emulator, Word-Typesetter (no, I don't use a word procesor), mouse, keyboard, everything
[01:55] <GNULinuxer> Burrito> /usr/src/linux
[01:55] <Razor-X> that's the beauty of Linux -- total customization
[01:55] <Burrito> ok
[01:55] <GNULinuxer> Razor-X> you use LaTeX ?
[01:55] <Burrito> thanks
[01:55] <djm62> Razor-X: end up like teco...unusable by anyone else :)
[01:55] <djm62> he uses lyx, I bet
[01:56] <dabaR> linlin, what do you need?
[01:56] <Burrito> thats like C:/Windows in windows?
[01:56] <GNULinuxer> Burrito> no
[01:56] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer: would rather die than use Word anymore ;)
[01:56] <dabaR> do you have 2 NICs on your computer?
[01:56] <linlin> i need to get a second ip address that points to the same machine
[01:56] <Burrito> what is then?
[01:56] <linlin> no just one
[01:56] <GNULinuxer> Burrito> windows doesn't have a source tree any where
[01:56] <dabaR> well, htf would that work::)
[01:56] <Razor-X> djm62: this machine is pretty unusable, Dvorak+Linux+trackball
[01:56] <Razor-X> and with a keyless keyboard, it's even better
[01:56] <GNULinuxer> Burrito> what exactly is your query about?
[01:56] <dabaR> what you want, I think is virtual servers...am I getting anywhere with that?
[01:57] <Razor-X> still, if the Ctrl key is weighted too much... my emacs'ing will get disrupted
[01:57] <Razor-X> and I can't have that, now can I? ;)
[01:57] <GNULinuxer> Razor-X> is there a good ssh shell emulator for emacs?
[01:57] <Razor-X> GNULinuxer: unfortunately... no :(
[01:58] <GNULinuxer> Razor-X> oops
[01:58] <Razor-X> lemme look it up, though
[01:58] <djm62> Razor-X: more power to your elbow...I just have a large .emacs and .zshrc so the terminal implements DWIM ;)
[01:58] <Razor-X> djm62: a ZSH user, eh? heh, I use BASH meself
[01:58] <Razor-X> I may switch to ZSH though...
[01:58] <dabaR> linlin, for what do you need that?
[01:58] <exalted> Hi, what was the meta-package name to install all development tools at once?
[01:58] <GNULinuxer> exalted> build-essentials
[01:58] <Burrito> GNULinuxer>
[01:58] <icasaracht> does anyone know anything about ndiswrapper
[01:58] <SmokingFire> athlon kernel or intel kernel on amd athlon board that supports sse
[01:58] <exalted> GNULinuxer, thank you
[01:59] <Razor-X> icasaracht: there's a wiki entry on that
[01:59] <Burrito> what does this means? -->make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[01:59] <Burrito> make: *** [default]  Error 2
[01:59] <linlin> because i do :), is there a way to do it or no?
[01:59] <GNULinuxer> Burrito> why do you want to know that?
[01:59] <Razor-X> and, to most people's surprise, everything on my computer follows an ANSI standard
[01:59] <Burrito> look, i have a tv card and y want to set it up
[01:59] <Razor-X> icasaracht: don't remember offhand, google 'ndiswrapper ubuntu' and you'll find it ;)
[01:59] <crush> I have ndis wrapper installed and working.
[01:59] <GNULinuxer> Burrito> talk privately
[02:00] <crush> What's your quetsion about it?
[02:00] <Razor-X> about the ANSI standard... it's more than a Windows user can boast about ;)
[02:00] <dabaR> linlin, I dont think exactly as you are visualizing it(I may be wrong, I dont think so, tho...) If you tell me what you are trying to acomplish, I may be able to tell you how it is implemented within computers.
[02:01] <dabaR> is it to do with web hosting?
[02:01] <linlin> ok, what i want to do is have one ip address on my server DMZ'd in my router, then, on a seperate ip address protected by nat still, i want to run the sshd and all the other daemons that i want on my lan, but not out on the big bad internet
[02:02] <flodine> a guys i need a progarm so take screenshot from the terminal help
[02:02] <cthulfuego> flodine: import -window root ss.png; install imagemagick
[02:02] <dabaR> I do that with two NICs, I think, if I get what you are saying, a network that interfaces the internet only on one computer, and is internally connected to other computers at home...
[02:03] <Curlydave> fuck this
[02:03] <Curlydave> i'm just reformatting
[02:03] <Curlydave> the HD's still accessable
[02:03] <linlin> yes, but i only have one nic
[02:03] <dabaR> so you get an IP address for each NIC.
[02:03] <linlin> i know its possible
[02:03] <dabaR> ok, good luck:)
[02:03] <linlin> ive had dedicated servers with more than 1 ip address and only one nic before
[02:04] <cthulfuego> Yes, just add an ip to eth0:1
[02:04] <linlin> how?
[02:04] <cthulfuego> ifconfig eth0:1 <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:04] <linlin> and is there a way to make that ip address assigned by DHCP ?
[02:04] <cthulfuego> Done
[02:04] <cthulfuego> linlin: yes, via interface s5)
[02:04] <cthulfuego> linlin: yes, via interfaces (5)
[02:05] <SmokingFire> I saw this bounty hound for Ubuntu. Its about Ubuntu and giving apt-get a "click and go"  feel like Lindows/Linspire does.
[02:05] <linlin> SmokingFire, yeah except ubuntu isnt gay :)
[02:05] <SpecialBuddy> what should I do if I want to install windows xp now
[02:05] <ShadowWlf> Anyone have any idea on a prob where programs close themselves (trying to help a friend)  Xchat and irrsi keeps self terminating, and /var/logs/ it said root had a crontab to killall xchat irssi.   that hadn't been set, and when look at the crontab jobs, it doesn't show anything like that in there
[02:05] <dabaR> hey, linlin, you are gay?
[02:05] <nbx909|linux> hello
[02:06] <linlin> noo
[02:06] <dabaR> haha...
[02:06] <linlin> :(
[02:06] <linlin> how do i use this interfaces (5) thing?
[02:06] <SpecialBuddy> What should I do if I want to install windows xp and make a dual partition
[02:06] <SpecialBuddy> ?
[02:06] <cthulfuego> linlin: type 'man 5 interfaces' alnd look at the examplea and documentation.
[02:07] <nbx909|linux> i was wondering how well ubentu would run with 128mb of ram and 750 mhz processor
[02:07] <SmokingFire> linlin: I was was thinking of ubuntu merging its apt - get data with gnome files.
[02:07] <cthulfuego> linlin: Also see /etc/network/interfaces and compare to what is already there.
[02:07] <yuacht> nbx909|linux, depends on what you're using it for
[02:07] <flodine> cthulfueg i installed image but how do i take the shot
[02:07] <cthulfuego> nbx909|linux: Should be OK, but more tram would be better.
[02:07] <cthulfuego> flodine: ;man import'
[02:07] <dabaR> SpecialBuddy www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/frontpage/searchwiki windows.
[02:08] <linlin> linlin:~# ifconfig eth0:1 <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:08] <linlin> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[02:08] <linlin> SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device
[02:08] <SpecialBuddy> thanks dabar
[02:08] <Curlydave> ubuntu=a pain in the fucking ass
[02:08] <linlin> whats that mean
[02:08] <cthulfuego> Do you have an eth0 ?
[02:08] <lmh> does anybody have a clue about xinerama and multihead?
[02:08] <Curlydave> it's good until gnome breaks
[02:08] <linlin> yes
[02:08] <dabaR> Curlydave that is why I use debian...
[02:08] <SmokingFire> SpecialBuddy: Insrtalling winxp after or before (linux) Ubuntu?
[02:08] <cthulfuego> Curlydave: Are you using breezy?
[02:08] <ThE__OnE> how come i cant get audio from a avi video file?
[02:08] <ThE__OnE> how cna i fix that?
[02:08] <gm78> Curlydave : OK, then why are you here? :P
[02:09] <nbx909|linux> install windows before linux always
[02:09] <SpecialBuddy> after
[02:09] <SpecialBuddy> I tried doing it that way and it kept screwing it up
[02:09] <yuacht> ThE__OnE, depends on what your issue is... you only trying to play that avi or u have music playing in the background?
[02:09] <Kim_Hagey> Umm, This is the first time I've ever seen ubuntu and was wondering where I can go to get info on how it all works...
[02:09] <cthulfuego> linlin: Did you compile your own kernel?
[02:09] <Razor-X> screen doesen't work with emacs
[02:09] <Razor-X> how said -_-
[02:09] <macarthy> hi all
[02:09] <linlin> nope
[02:09] <ThE__OnE> the avi has audi, iam sure of it because its amovie
[02:09] <cthulfuego> Razor-X: Surely emacs has _builtin_ screen functionality.
[02:09] <Dj_AlTeK> boo!
[02:09] <copilot> Kim_Hagey, http://www.ubuntuguide.org
[02:09] <macarthy> what is the apt command to find the package that has file X
[02:10] <Kim_Hagey> thanks
[02:10] <Razor-X> cthulfuego: well, what if I have a screen session running for compatibility's sake?
[02:10] <revildab[tm] > anyone know a good wireless configuration utility for gnome?
[02:10] <dabaR> haha, that is a nice place to learn how it all works...
[02:10] <netsniper> Anyone help me with gdesklet-startermenu not working?
[02:10] <SmokingFire> SpecialBuddy and all of the channel please link to this site: http://ubuntuguide.org/
[02:10] <dabaR> try ubuntu.com
[02:10] <netsniper> revildab[tm] , the built in one
[02:10] <cthulfuego> macarthy: dpkg -S /path/to/file (if it's installed) otherwise 'apt-file' or '/msg ubotu find <file>'
[02:10] <macarthy> thanks
[02:10] <cthulfuego> Razor-X: That's not The Emacs Way[tm]
[02:11] <ThE__OnE> SmokingFire, that guide need serious update
[02:11] <revildab[tm] > doesnt support wpa-psk :\, at least not under the gui, i dont know where the config files themselves are stored
[02:11] <Razor-X> cthulfuego: true... I don't know why the hell i'm ranting about 'compatibility'
[02:11] <lmh> do you have a clue about merging 2 monitors with the radeon - driver?
[02:11] <cthulfuego> Razor-X: ;-)
[02:11] <Razor-X> but, the reason I used screen up till know is that, I can leave my sessions up forever
[02:11] <netsniper> revildab[tm] , your loinux driver may not support WPA anyways
[02:11] <lmh> nobody?
[02:12] <Razor-X> cthulfuego: as I said above, my whole user environment is uncomon (yet ANSI standardized)
[02:12] <Razor-X> so i'm proud to be the utmost non-conformist and the utmost in standardization
[02:12] <macarthy> apt-file is another package?
[02:12] <netsniper> revildab[tm] , also -- all wifi encryption is easily crackable -- just use MAC filtering instead -- some people may not be able to used your network if their drivers dont support WPA -- mine doesnt even in windows
[02:12] <cthulfuego> macarthy: yep
[02:12] <SmokingFire> ThE__OnE: It doesn't matter that much as ubuntu --> linux -->unix --> hasn't changed in 20 years.
[02:13] <cthulfuego> macarthy: it downloads package lists so it can search for files. if it's a once off, /msg ubotu find foo might be quicker.
[02:13] <Razor-X> SmokingFire: a _tad_ bit wrong ;)
[02:13] <Curlydave> gm78: because my bro's comp runs linux for some reason
[02:13] <netsniper> yea, really wrong -- look at CDE compared to Gnome 2.10 !
[02:13] <Razor-X> Ubuntu --> Linux --> Minix --> Unix
[02:13] <macarthy> cthulfuego, what the hell is /msg?
[02:13] <cthulfuego> macarthy: A command.
[02:13] <Curlydave> gm78: and it was working breat until gnome broke
[02:13] <Razor-X> macarthy: is today your first day on IRC?
[02:14] <dabaR> an IRC command
[02:14] <Razor-X> i've learned something helping out on this channel
[02:14] <cthulfuego> macarthy: A way to commuinicate with an irc user or bot privately.
[02:14] <macarthy> oh sorry !
[02:14] <macarthy> though you meant in the command line
[02:14] <cthulfuego> Razor-X: there is nothing at all someone won't break "by accident" due to wilfullness?
[02:14] <Razor-X> intelligence isn't guaged by class, or by many other things, it's one's capability to change when convinced one thing is better to the other without obsessive pushing
[02:14] <flodine> a guys i just put ubuntu on a dell laptop with a linksys wireless-G adapter but no connection help
[02:14] <ThE__OnE> ok, i cant get audio working, can someone help?
[02:15] <gm78> Kim_Hagey : www.ubuntuguide.org
[02:15] <Razor-X> which the majority of denizens on planet Earth don't do ;)
[02:15] <macarthy> too tired....
[02:15] <flodine> anyone on a wireless card
[02:15] <cthulfuego> flodine: You'll need to find out what driveer that card needs and then install it (may require ndiswrapper and windows driver)
[02:15] <netsniper> flodine, me -- and hey i rmemeber you
[02:16] <flodine> well where do i get the drivers from
[02:16] <netsniper> floater, what card?
[02:16] <flodine> and are the linux drivers or winblow
[02:16] <ThE__OnE> hello?
[02:16] <_Simon> can someone help me with smbpasswd please? I'm trying to add an account, I don't have an /etc/samba/smbusers, should I?
[02:16] <cthulfuego> flodine: That ddpends on the card model, which we can't look up for you. Google is your friend.
[02:16] <_Simon> I created one but it still doesn't work
[02:16] <flipy> hi!
[02:17] <flodine> ok
[02:17] <flipy> is there any chance to install ubuntu64 on a bios-raid?
[02:17] <flodine> google where are you
[02:17] <ThE__OnE> when i go to Multimedia Systems Selecter, the test botton does'nt work in audio
[02:17] <flodine> come here boy
[02:17] <cthulfuego> flipy: If there are binary-only linux drivers from the manufacturer, yes. but even then you don't _want_ to.
[02:18] <flipy> but I've to keep my current raid array
[02:18] <cthulfuego> flipy: Then I reckon you're out of luck.
[02:18] <flipy> oh I see... :(
[02:18] <cthulfuego> flipy: Can you back up the data on the array, then do an install with kernel software raid?
[02:18] <SmokingFire> I love ubuntu but I have no ideas of its business plan do any of you do?
[02:19] <flipy> but I've to use m$ for some programs @ university
[02:19] <cthulfuego> SmokingFire: When to start making profits, they're going to invest them in a dairy herd and start a cheese farm.
[02:19] <lmh> ------- Anybody with a clue about multihead / xinerama / two monitors on a radeon-card?
[02:19] <amonkey> can i have multiple instances of totem open?
[02:19] <Razor-X> wtf!
[02:19] <Razor-X> why did Alt stop behaving like meta................... -_-
[02:20] <gm78> SmokingFire : I'm reconning (yes, i spelled that wrong) they are going to target the African Software market, since Red Hat doesn't offer support in Africa and I don't think Novell does either.
[02:20] <transgress> that'll be handy when i run off to jamaica
[02:20] <_Simon> does smbpasswd -a add lines to smbusers? because nothing happens when I fill out a password
[02:20] <gm78> SmokingFire : much the same way Red Hat gained the North American Linux Market
[02:20] <transgress> and novell the european...
[02:20] <transgress> who has asia?
[02:20] <ThE__OnE> Can someone help me pleasee?
[02:21] <transgress> No Speak Of that Linux?
[02:21] <transgress> ThE__OnE: with what?
[02:21] <gm78> transgress : asianux and red carpet linux
[02:21] <ThE__OnE> my audio never plays in the video file
[02:21] <Aegir> Quick question, is their anything in particular to watch out for when doing an upgrade to Breezy?
[02:21] <ThE__OnE> infact i cant play the avi file in any other program other than VLC
[02:21] <transgress> ThE__OnE: what video format is it/
[02:21] <gm78> ThE__OnE : lol, u need an easier to type name. what program r u using
[02:21] <ThE__OnE> VLC
[02:21] <transgress> gm78: it's called the tab button
[02:22] <Razor-X> gm78: you don't use tab-complete?
[02:22] <ThE__OnE> the avi file dont play in either totem or mplayer
[02:22] <transgress> ThE__OnE: vlc isn't a video format... avi is... so umm... you got the w32codecs?
[02:22] <HrdwrBoB> transgress: strictly avi is not a video format either, it's a container
[02:22] <ThE__OnE> VLC does'nt need codecs
[02:22] <flodine> ok guys anyone got the linksys wireless-G wpc54g working in linux
[02:22] <gm78> transgress : lol, didnt know gaim could do that, thx for the tip
[02:22] <transgress> HrdwrBoB: shut up.  ;)
[02:22] <SmokingFire> cthulfuego  , gm78: I really wonder what they want to make money of.... HP now supports Ubuntu as I gathered from slashdot. But they unlike RH offer servers versions for free.
[02:22] <ThE__OnE> VLC program plays the video but no audio
[02:23] <flodine> import -window root ss.png; install
[02:23] <flodine>                      imagemagick
[02:23] <transgress> ThE__OnE: but you are asking about totem and mplayer ...
[02:23] <dane> does anyone know if it matters if you install ubuntu as root during setup?
[02:23] <gm78> ThE__OnE: try installing the win32codecs from mplayerhq.hu
[02:23] <transgress> and i'm not real familiar with vlc... but i'd imagine it has to have something to play certain file types
[02:23] <bob_> does any one have a guide to setting up ubuntu to connect to a 2k3 AD server? ...as a client?
[02:23] <ThE__OnE> i cant get any audio playing in ubuntu in general
[02:23] <dane> hey
[02:23] <transgress> ThE__OnE: no actually grab the w32codecs from the repo from marillat... it'll be a bit more... standard.
[02:23] <dane> what driver do you have the
[02:23] <gm78> ThE__OnE: is ur sound card supported in linux normally?
[02:23] <transgress> ThE__OnE: does sound play at all?
[02:24] <ThE__OnE> how am  i supposed ot know that? lol
[02:24] <transgress> well there are start up sounds
[02:24] <dane> bugzilla and wiki has fixes
[02:24] <SmokingFire> I really think that Ubuntu is much better then xandros, Lindows, mandrake or what ever
[02:24] <ThE__OnE> well it makes noices when logging in and logging out
[02:24] <dane> what soundcard do u have
[02:24] <transgress> okay so sound does work... i'm betting money on it being an integrated sound card
[02:24] <ThE__OnE> i know know =/
[02:24] <ThE__OnE> dont
[02:24] <bob_> lspci
[02:24] <bob_> ...and find out
[02:24] <ThE__OnE> i dont know =/
[02:24] <dane> do u have another os it works for?
[02:24] <likkashot> I quick question is the Cpu frequency monitor realy working
[02:25] <gm78> the
[02:25] <likkashot> it tells me I got a 1ghz
[02:25] <transgress> likkashot: what do you have?
[02:25] <gm78> likkashot: what kind of cpu u got?
[02:25] <likkashot> AMD64
[02:25] <ThE__OnE> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:25] <transgress> dear god what the fuck happened to good grammar?
[02:25] <likkashot> 3500+
[02:25] <transgress> ThE__OnE: it's in the marillat repo
[02:25] <gm78> ThE__OnE: u need to grab it from another repository
[02:25] <transgress> likkashot: is it a laptop?
[02:25] <likkashot> no
[02:26] <Nard> ok i need someone who will walk me step by step on the installation of skype because i can't figure out how to do it
[02:26] <SmokingFire> bob_: I don't know but check out http://ubuntuguide.org/
[02:26] <ThE__OnE> which repository?
[02:26] <bob_> SmokingFire, thanks... will do
[02:26] <transgress> Nard: umm i think there is a wiki
[02:26] <Nard> really
[02:26] <doonz> do ipods work under ubuntu?
[02:26] <transgress> ThE__OnE: MARILLAT
[02:26] <lmh> does anybody have a clue on how to setup two monitors on a dual-head graphics-card to merge them?
[02:26] <dane> there is a wiki and bugzilla
[02:26] <gm78> ThE__OnE: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[02:26] <ThE__OnE> whats the link to it?
[02:26] <SpecialBuddy> how do you uninstall something
[02:26] <netsniper> doonz, yes, gtkpod
[02:26] <transgress> lmh: yeah grab the ati control thingy... it makes it easier
[02:27] <likkashot> 1ghz is less then half my cpu :(
[02:27] <Nard> i've looked at the wiki and everything and i can't figure it out
[02:27] <gm78> SpecialBuddy: sudo apt-get remove package or remove it in synaptic
[02:27] <transgress> ThE__OnE: GOOGLE UBUNTU RESTRICTED CODECS
[02:27] <cthulfuego> lmh: Yeah, I used to run like that on a Matrox card with _open_ drivers. Google helped me a lot.
[02:27] <lmh> transgress: did that, still doesnt work
[02:27] <transgress> lmh: linux gods hate you?
[02:27] <lmh> cthulfuego: read a lot
[02:27] <Cybermagellan> Are there any programs to make fonts in Linux?
[02:27] <transgress> lmh: is the card detected properly?
[02:27] <lmh> transgress: aparently
[02:27] <lmh> no
[02:27] <SpecialBuddy> synaptic is the place to uninstall and install then?
[02:27] <transgress> well that's probably the problem then
[02:28] <transgress> lmh: did you follow the wiki on installing it?
[02:28] <lmh> transgress: is a his card with a radeon 9550 chipset
[02:28] <djm62> TokenBad: are you still having no luck?
[02:28] <lmh> transgress: yes
[02:28] <ThE__OnE> transgress, calm down iam new at this ok?
[02:28] <gm78> likkashot: query me and post the output of cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:28] <transgress> lmh: that wasn't a sentence.  and try this "locate nvidia.ko" and tell me if it returns anything
[02:28] <gm78> ThE__OnE: I opened a private chat with u, talk to me there, k?
[02:28] <zyth> Burrito!
[02:29] <lmh> no, card has an ATI Radeon 9550, no NVidia
[02:29] <Burrito> whats up?
[02:29] <transgress> lmh: i'm aware of this.  run the command anyway.
[02:29] <dane> for the 1st time everthing on my computer works under linux!!!
[02:29] <Burrito> zyth?
[02:29] <zyth> omg
[02:29] <dane> laff
[02:29] <zyth> Burrito, I was just saying the word, cause I am eating one, i didn't realise someone had it as a nick
[02:29] <zyth> sorry :)
[02:29] <transgress> dane: well mine's been that way for a while... but still... that's why i'm about to go to freebsd and try to make it all work heh
[02:29] <likkashot> vendor_id       : AuthenticAMD
[02:29] <likkashot> cpu family      : 15
[02:29] <likkashot> model           : 7
[02:29] <likkashot> model name      : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
[02:29] <likkashot> stepping        : 10
[02:29] <likkashot> cpu MHz         : 2010.346
[02:29] <Burrito> jajajaja!!!
[02:29] <likkashot> cache size      : 512 KB
[02:30] <likkashot> fpu             : yes
[02:30] <likkashot> fpu_exception   : yes
[02:30] <likkashot> cpuid level     : 1
[02:30] <zyth> likkashot, don't paste in here!
[02:30] <transgress> likkashot: for christs sake don't flood you asswhore monkey man
[02:30] <likkashot> wp              : yes
[02:30] <likkashot> flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 pni syscall nx mmxext lm 3dnowext 3dnow
[02:30] <zyth> use paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:30] <zyth> GRR
[02:30] <dane> I like ubuntu so far
[02:30] <likkashot> bogomips        : 3976.84
[02:30] <likkashot> TLB size        : 1088 4K pages
[02:30] <likkashot> clflush size    : 64
[02:30] <dane> had to do some tweaking
[02:30] <likkashot> cache_alignment : 64
[02:30] <lmh> transgress: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko
[02:30] <dane> but
[02:30] <likkashot> address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
[02:30] <likkashot> power management: ts fid vid ttp
[02:30] <likkashot> ooops
[02:30] <likkashot> sooory
[02:30] <likkashot> damn
[02:30] <likkashot> relax
[02:30] <likkashot> i said sorry
[02:30] <dane> its gonna save me a bunch of money switching to linux!!!
[02:30] <transgress> lmh: you need to delete that then reboot to get the fglrx module to work right
[02:30] <likkashot> ok then the monitor is crap
[02:30] <transgress> lmh: assuming you already configured it in your xorg.conf
[02:30] <zyth> #gentoo and #debian have more people than #ubuntu :(
[02:30] <exjinn> but it won't save you money on your car insurance
[02:30] <transgress> likkashot: i hate you.
[02:30] <transgress> zyth: imagine...
[02:31] <dane> lol
[02:31] <likkashot> i love u
[02:31] <transgress> zyth: why not try to troll.
[02:31] <Brett18> ubuntu install freezes
[02:31] <netsniper> zyth, yes, because they need the most help -- Ubuntu is too easy!
[02:31] <zyth> transgress, I am too tired to troll.
[02:31] <zyth> lol netsniper
[02:31] <transgress> Brett18: try turning off acpi at boot
[02:32] <Brett18> ok
[02:32] <dane> how do I view ntfs partitions under linux?
[02:32] <transgress> dane: you mount it
[02:32] <dane> with?
[02:32] <transgress> mount
[02:32] <zyth> dane: mount -t ntfs /dev/hdX /mountpoint
[02:32] <dane> o
[02:32] <yuacht> dane, www.ubuntuguide.org
[02:32] <yuacht> check that out
[02:32] <dane> ok
[02:32] <dane> i will
[02:32] <dane> thanks
[02:32] <yuacht> np
[02:32] <SmokingFire> You need this url in the header of this channel http://distrowatch.com/stats.php?section=popularity
[02:33] <transgress> SmokingFire: no we don't
[02:33] <cut0ff_> spanish version: www.guia-ubuntu.org
[02:33] <transgress> a distros measure of worth shouldn't be it's number of users... it should be how well it works... measuring the popularity is just asking for flaming.
[02:33] <TokenBad> djm62, yeah its still not loading
[02:33] <SmokingFire> transgress: To show were ubuntu is at!!!!
[02:33] <netsniper> why isnt UbuntuGuide.org in the channel topic?
[02:34] <transgress> netsniper: i guess because it's "unofficial" ... iuno... it should be... although i prefer the wiki to it.
[02:35] <djm62> TokenBad: can you download http://djm62.freeshell.org/electricsheep_2.6.2-1_i386.deb and see if it's the same as the package you made?
[02:35] <transgress> ubuntuguide and the wiki conflict on some things... and my experience has been the wiki ended up better.
[02:35] <transgress> what is electricsheep?  someone said something about that the other day
[02:36] <djm62> TokenBad: by using "diff file1 file2"
[02:36] <transgress> and it entertained me since i was reading "Do androids dream of electric sheep" atm
[02:36] <cthulfuego> !info electricsheep
[02:36] <ubotu> electricsheep: (Screensaver showing collective dream of sleeping computers), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2.5-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 410 kB, Installed size: 872 kB
[02:36] <lmh> transgress: still doesn't work
[02:37] <omenka> HI all UBuntu Users
[02:37] <cthulfuego> SmokingFire: The aim of Ubuntu isn't to have 20,000,000 little kids using it to get the stats up.
[02:37] <transgress> lmh: try running flgrxconfig as root... going through that... then seeing as it's a bug and names what should be xorg.conf to XFree86-4 rename that... open it and change the word Keyboard to keyboard... then reboot.
[02:37] <netsniper> I think 20,000,000 little kids should be using it
[02:38] <omenka> I,m new to Ubuntu....finally succeeded in installing Ubuntu on my laptop afetr trying other distros but my sound card is not workin.....'
[02:38] <transgress> omenka: what kind of sound card?
[02:38] <lmh> transgress: already been through that, it doesn't find my card as it is a HIS card and no ATI card
[02:38] <lmh> transgress: but with ATI chipset
[02:38] <omenka> Can anyone help?I have a Toshiba Tecra 8100 and my sound card is an s3 savage/mx card
[02:38] <transgress> SOL perhaps?
[02:39] <xabbu> Have someone here used Enlightenment? And got it to work in Ubuntu!
[02:39] <karllll> i just installed ubuntu and haven't gotten the option to set the root password.. where do i do that?
[02:39] <cut0ff_> have you managed to do gmail as storage system??
[02:40] <Darkfusion> what's the latest version of KOffice available for ubuntu?
[02:40] <djm62> !root
[02:40] <ubotu> methinks root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:40] <roger> karllll, you can set it by typing "sudo passwd"
[02:40] <djm62> karllll: what ubotu said
[02:40] <lmh> xabbu: http://www.ubuntuusers.de/wiki/windowmanager:enlightenment_installieren
[02:40] <lmh> xabbu: german though
[02:40] <djm62> karllll: you don't need a root passwd and it's another thing you can forget
[02:40] <xabbu> damn, I have to start practise my old german skills then. :)
[02:40] <netsniper> omenka, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-11096.html
[02:40] <Brett18> i used pci=noacpi. still freezes during installation
[02:40] <lmh> transgress: could you have a look on my xorg.conf /log file?
[02:41] <lmh> transgress: http://www.koeln.it/xorg.conf
[02:41] <transgress> lmh: pastebin them and give me the link
[02:41] <transgress> k
[02:41] <lmh> transgress: http://www.koeln.it/xorg-log.txt
[02:41] <transgress> lmh: didn't run fglrxconfig did you?
[02:41] <Brett18> freezes during "installing base system"
[02:41] <karllll> in gentoo, theres a portage directory.. is there something simliar in ubuntu?
[02:42] <lmh> transgress: b4 yes, but dind't work
[02:42] <transgress> karllll: not really...
[02:42] <djm62> karllll: not really.  the downloaded packages are in /var/cache/apt/archives
[02:42] <cut0ff_> have you managed to do gmail as storage system?  anybody?
[02:42] <karllll> how do i see what the package names are, to apt-get them?
[02:42] <karllll> ahh.
[02:42] <transgress> lmh: try doing all of what i said step by step... run it... open it and change where it has Keyboard to keyboard... then mv it to xorg.conf and then reboot
[02:42] <lmh> transgress: i got it already working, but my system crashed
[02:42] <djm62> karllll: apt-cache search keyword
[02:42] <lmh> transgress: ok
[02:42] <djm62> karllll: or the same thing in synaptic (the gui)
[02:43] <karllll> last thing: how would i go about installing kde or enlightenment?
[02:44] <Brett18> help please
[02:44] <transgress> karllll: sudo apt-get install kde enlightenment
[02:44] <djm62> karllll: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will give you the ubuntu-flavoured full kde setup
[02:44] <transgress> aptgetting kubuntu-desktop broke crap massively for me
[02:45] <transgress> i hear just getting kde works out a bit better.
[02:45] <Brett18> i just want to install it
[02:45] <djm62> ah, I defer to experience then
[02:45] <transgress> it's weird... neither gdm or kdm would boot to kde or gnome after i did the kubuntu-desktop install... but from kubuntu i did ubuntu-desktop and it works w/o a problem
[02:46] <karllll> when i 'apt-get install kde' theres a message that says "package kde is not available, but is referred to by another package"
[02:46] <transgress> umm hold then
[02:46] <blackomega> is it possible to install off the live cd
[02:47] <roger> karllll, look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com//InstallingKDE
[02:47] <roger> karllll, although that basically just says to install kde or kubuntu-desktop :)
[02:47] <karllll> thanks
[02:48] <Brett18> i can't install ubuntu
[02:48] <transgress> as i said though... kubuntu-desktop broke for me... so if you try that... back stuff up first just in case
[02:48] <lmh> transgress: Probing PCI bus for a supported graphics device...
[02:49] <transgress> Brett18: that can happen sometimes... try different cheat codes... if none work... sorry.  some hardware gets pissy.
[02:49] <lmh> transgress: unable to find any of the subsequent graphics boards:
[02:49] <lmh> transgress: ...
[02:49] <transgress> lmh: SOL perhaps?
[02:49] <Brett18> why would it freeze during the package installation?
[02:49] <lmh> sol = ?
[02:49] <transgress> shit outta luck
[02:50] <lmh> transgres: SOL.
[02:50] <transgress> Brett18: did you check your discs integrity.
[02:50] <Brett18> yea
[02:50] <roger> Brett18, what kind of hardware are you installing it on?
[02:50] <transgress> lmh: sorry man... it's beyond me.
[02:51] <Brett18> 2.93GHz celeron, 1GB ddr ram, 80GB, 7GB hard drives
[02:51] <netsniper> Anyone use GDESKLETS???
[02:51] <Brett18> same thing happens with fedora and gentoo
[02:52] <zho40> anyone use multisync to sync thunderbird address book?
[02:52] <roger> Brett18, where exactly does it fail with gentoo?
[02:52] <Brett18> during the package installation
[02:52] <omenka> hey.....i run a cybercafe in africa......and want to migrate all my systems to the Linux platform using Ubuntu LInux...please could anyone recommend any good linux cybercafe timer?????
[02:53] <Kyral> netsniper: I do
[02:53] <Cybermagellan> How do I edit the session manager to remove xfce and kde and put enlightenment on there?
[02:53] <roger> Brett18, well which package? are you doing stage 1 / 2 / 3? if you know exactly where it fails you can try to narrow down what the problem is
[02:53] <Razor-X> omenka: hmmm... not familiar with what a cafe timer is
[02:53] <Brett18> i forgot
[02:54] <Brett18> in ubuntu it freezes during "base package"
[02:54] <netsniper> Kyral, you use the STARTERBAR?
[02:54] <Brett18> sorry. "core components"
[02:54] <omenka> in an internet cafe a timer is a software used to allocate tickets to clients who come to browse
[02:55] <gm78> omenka: yeah, not sure what a cafe timer is
[02:55] <roger> Brett18, sorry bud I have no idea unless you can give more concrete details
[02:55] <Kyral> Cybermagellan: edit the conf file, but I forgot which one it is...
[02:56] <Brett18> bot :P
[02:56] <roger> Brett18, try googling for it & see if nayone else has had the same problem
[02:56] <omenka> ok.....yu go to an internet cafe and yu buy tickets for example for 1 hr right?it,s the client software installed on the system(timer software) that logs yu out when ur time expires
[02:56] <Brett18> i did. even spidered ubuntuforums
[02:56] <netsniper> omenka, you should be able to circumvernt that easily
[02:56] <Cybermagellan> Yeah I removed xfce and kde but they still show.... + enlightenment doesn't
[02:56] <omenka> how netsniper?
[02:57] <Y0Z-> hi!, have you try kazaa with wine????
[02:57] <Kyral> NetSniper: Yes
[02:57] <^thehatsrule^> kazaa is useless
[02:57] <Kyral> Use LimeWire
[02:57] <netsniper> omenka, id need to know your specific setup -- but shouldnt be hard
[02:57] <netsniper> Kyral, when i first add the STARTERBAR, all it is a black dot!
[02:57] <ubuntu_> does anyone know how to use winscp?
[02:58] <Y0Z-> ok
[02:58] <Y0Z-> 10x
[02:58] <Kyral> Netsniper: did you bychance install it from Apt?
[02:58] <netsniper> Kyral, yes
[02:58] <Kyral> thats the problem
[02:58] <Kyral> the one from Apt is bugged
[02:58] <netsniper> Kyral, did you get the black dot problem?
[02:58] <robla_> Can anyone help me with sound ...  Netsniper: Download the Starterbar and install it from the GDesklet's site
[03:02] <Kyral> use the GDesklets Shell
[03:02] <netsniper> Kyral, i will 0 thanks
[03:02] <Kyral> np, StarterBar rocks :D
[03:02] <netsniper> Kyral, you mean the GUI or CLI?
[03:03] <Kyral> and check out the SideCandy Series
[03:03] <Kyral> the GUI
[03:03] <netsniper> ahh ok
[03:03] <transgress> gdesklets shell?
[03:03] <crazyhorse> lol http://lachschon.gamigo.de/screens/200506/Wolffuchs-1119471831.jpg
[03:03] <Kyral> its what comes up when you click on gDesklets from the GNOME Menu
[03:03] <transgress> oh
[03:04] <xabbu>  Jikes, where can I find a list of depenencies for Enlighenment?
[03:04] <robla_> any tips on my sound problem... I think I loaded everything
[03:05] <Kyral> xabbu: I believe there is a topic on the Forums on how to compile it from CVS
[03:05] <karllll> xabbu: http://enlightenment.org/Enlightenment/Get_Enlightenment.html
[03:05] <karllll> try there
[03:05] <Kyral> We should add "Linux Guru" to the Forum Tags for those who help out like crazy in here :P
[03:06] <Razor-X> you mean like me? ;)
[03:06] <transgress> heh i never go to the forums
[03:06] <transgress> not my style
[03:06] <Razor-X> same here
[03:06] <Kyral> I do
[03:06] <Kyral> 200+ posts :P
[03:06] <hondje> More useful to help there, then it's googlable
[03:07] <Razor-X> but the few times I post, people'll know i'm not a hapless n00b
[03:07] <transgress> i haven't gone to forums since i used to go to these teen forums and mess with the xtians
[03:08] <t0lkman> is there wine for ubuntu 64bit?
[03:10] <SpecialBuddy> does everyone here use gnome?
[03:10] <Kyral> I do
[03:10] <matt__> is there a release of xchat-gnome for ubuntu?
[03:10] <transgress> xchat-gnome?
[03:10] <zenlunatic> anyone know y my sound is muffled?
[03:10] <transgress> what makes that different than xchat?
[03:11] <transgress> nope and i don't know why your w and h keys don't work either
[03:11] <Kyral> it prolly integrates into GNOME better
[03:11] <xabbu> Anyone got "Unable to build a debian package of imlib2" during Enlightenment install
[03:11] <xabbu> ?
[03:11] <ccc> transgress: http://xchat-gnome.navi.cx/
[03:11] <zenlunatic> transgress: i think its a differenbt forkedf project
[03:11] <SpecialBuddy> can you use kde with ubuntu
[03:11] <zenlunatic> SpecialBuddy: yes
[03:11] <squinn> SpecialBuddy, http://kubuntu.org
[03:11] <squinn> or install it within ubuntu
[03:12] <matt__> ya more gnome like, and i think its better
[03:12] <matt__> less crap
[03:12] <SpecialBuddy> how do you install it with ubuntu
[03:12] <transgress> zenlunatic: i see
[03:12] <transgress> ccc: thanks
[03:12] <karllll> specialbuddy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//InstallingKDE
[03:12] <lilliput> hello guys is there any packages for azureus or my sources.list is incomplete ?
[03:13] <SpecialBuddy> thanks karllll
[03:13] <zenlunatic> anyone know y my sound is muffled?
[03:13] <Kyral> there are Azureus packages IIRC
[03:13] <roger> lilliput, azureus is in the ubuntu backports i think
[03:13] <SpecialBuddy> and how do you make your name highlighted
[03:13] <SpecialBuddy> do you just click the persons name and then type?
[03:13] <roger> lilliput, http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[03:13] <transgress> any latin freaks in here?  as in the dead language not as in the from central america
[03:13] <lilliput> roger, thx
[03:13] <transgress> what does "abyssus est alius populus" mean?  anyone
[03:16] <SpecialBuddy> I can't even figure out how to play mp3's
[03:16] <roger> transgress, according to some random forum on google it means "hell is other people"
[03:16] <Burrito> hi
[03:16] <transgress> roger: thanks
[03:16] <Burrito> can somebody help me out?
[03:16] <Burrito> please?
[03:16] <roger> Burrito, what's up?
[03:17] <roger> SpecialBuddy, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats to see how to play mp3s
[03:17] <ThE__OnE> how can i stop esd from openeing everytime i log in, my sound wont play otherwise
[03:17] <squinn> I screwed up. In an attempt to be stupid and maybe make things more accessible, I sudo chmodded my whole /dev and contents 777
[03:17] <squinn> How can I fix?
[03:17] <netsniper> Kyral, you got a link to the starterbar that you have working correctly?  the right version that will work with my gdesklet from apt?
[03:17] <Kyral> I can find it
[03:17] <nalioth> howdy y'all
[03:17] <Burrito> roger>
[03:17] <fidget> hello ... I managed to screw up my fstab file ... what exactly should this file contain?
[03:17] <Burrito> i need to set up my tv card
[03:18] <SpecialBuddy> thanks
[03:18] <roger> SpecialBuddy, basically just apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:18] <Burrito> can you help me out?
[03:18] <nalioth> fidget: did you google 'sample fstab'?
[03:18] <SpecialBuddy> ok
[03:18] <fidget> I did not
[03:18] <gm78> ThE__OnE: hey, just letting you know, i used the default of 50 and it worked
[03:18] <fidget> is it the same for all computers?
[03:18] <nalioth> fidget: or "sample fstab ubuntu"
[03:18] <Burrito> roger?
[03:18] <SpecialBuddy> does that have avi too
[03:18] <ThE__OnE> ok
[03:18] <roger> Burrito, I don't have a TV card sorry... wouldn't know where to start
[03:18] <riffic> why isn't gstreamer-plugins-musepack included in ubuntu?
[03:18] <nalioth> fidget: no it is not
[03:18] <fidget> how would I go about creating one for my own computer then .....
[03:18] <nalioth> riffic: probably licensing issues
[03:18] <Burrito> ok
[03:18] <fidget> isn't it mount points?
[03:18] <riffic> i tried to compile gst-plugins but oh boy confusing
[03:18] <Burrito> thanks anyway
[03:18] <riffic> nalioth: musepack is free
[03:18] <nalioth> fidget: yes it is
[03:18] <riffic> and its included in gst-plugins
[03:19] <Burrito> does somebody know how to set up a tv card?
[03:19] <nalioth> riffic: free as in beer or free as in freedom?
[03:19] <riffic> free as in freedom
[03:19] <fidget> ah ok ... I'll google it ....
[03:19] <fidget> thanks
[03:19] <Bludgen> .
[03:19] <Kyral> NetSniper: http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/categories.php?func=gd_show_app&gd_app_id=210
[03:19] <nalioth> fidget: perhaps you could find someone in here with a similar computer setup and ask them to send you theirs
[03:19] <Burrito> hey!
[03:19] <nalioth> riffic: then i don't know
[03:19] <Burrito> how can help me!???
[03:19] <Burrito> plz!
[03:19] <fidget> what all is in it?
[03:19] <fidget> just harddrive ... cd drives?
[03:19] <Burrito> i need help!
[03:20] <Burrito> plz!
[03:20] <netsniper> Kyral, thanks dude -- iwas there but not sure if it would work
[03:20] <Burrito> plz!
[03:20] <roger> fidget, have a look at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=8  :)
[03:20] <nalioth> fidget: there are a few lines i dont know what are, and yes, mount points for floppys, cdroms, HD partitions
[03:20] <roger> fidget, but ubuntu should have created it automatically for you
[03:20] <SpecialBuddy> is KDE or GNOME better?
[03:20] <Burrito> plz!
[03:20] <Demitar> SpecialBuddy, YES!
[03:20] <davidosa> hello all...
[03:20] <Burrito> i need help!
[03:20] <SpecialBuddy> or what do you think is better?
[03:20] <hondje> No
[03:20] <hondje> SpecialBuddy: I prefer quesadillas
[03:21] <Burrito> common
[03:21] <fidget> aye well ... actually .. I mounted a iso file to it =/ so my fstab file was a little over 2 gigs ... so I just erased it and put in a blank file..
[03:21] <fidget> it did let me boot up
[03:21] <SpecialBuddy> ok
[03:21] <Burrito> came on guys!
[03:21] <fidget> but I don't think it wrote to it
[03:21] <nalioth> Burrito: quit whining. Ask your question and wait. If anyone knows the answer they will answer you.
[03:21] <nalioth> fidget: open a terminal and type "cat /etc/fstab"
[03:21] <Burrito> ok
[03:21] <roger> fidget, lol :)
[03:21] <JDigital> foop
[03:21] <davidosa> anyone have any experience booting from a LIVE CD of ubuntu on a PowerBook?
[03:21] <Demitar> Burrito, and while waiting you can always ask google.
[03:21] <JDigital> How do I use File Roller to open rar?
[03:22] <unome> Burrito: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[03:22] <unome> Burrito: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/examples/fstab
[03:22] <nalioth> JDigital: install "unrar-nonfree" or "unrar"
[03:22] <nalioth> unome: did you mean fidget?
[03:22] <gm78> JDigital : you should just be able to double click on the icon in nautilus and it should openm
[03:22] <Burrito> i just need to know if somebody can help me to set up my tv card
[03:22] <Burrito> thats all
[03:23] <nalioth> Burrito: have you asked uncle google? (he will always answer)
[03:23] <Burrito> yes
[03:23] <fidget> sorry for being so .. bleh new .... I hate being the new guy when it comes to this kinda stuff..
[03:23] <roger> Burrito, try googling / searhcing on the forums, or look at mailing lists for things like mythtv
[03:23] <fidget> then again .. i'm sure no one ever mounted a iso to there fstab file =/
[03:23] <nalioth> fidget: we are all new at something
[03:23] <Burrito> but im just a newbie
[03:23] <Burrito> and i dont speak english
[03:23] <Burrito> so its very hard for me
[03:23] <Burrito> i need somebody to help me
[03:24] <JDigital> Could not open "himm.rar"
[03:24] <JDigital> Archive type not supported.
[03:24] <Burrito> plz
[03:24] <nalioth> burrito i take cash only
[03:24] <Burrito> i have been here all day
[03:24] <JDigital> I have unrar-nonfree installed
[03:24] <fidget> mkay what did this cat /etc/fstab do?
[03:24] <Burrito> really?
[03:24] <nalioth> fidget: it should have printed a lot of stuff into your terminal
[03:24] <fidget> thanks unome
[03:24] <Burrito> nalioth: really?
[03:24] <fidget> ah .. it didn't
[03:24] <fidget> blank ... new line
[03:24] <nalioth> fidget: then you need a new fstab
[03:25] <nalioth> guys, will ubuntu recreate a missing fstab on bootup? i don't know personally
[03:25] <fidget> I agree ... ... if I installed ubuntu on this computer .. on a different harddrive
[03:25] <roger> fidget, type "whatis cat"
[03:25] <fidget> then copied the new file to a ftp ..
[03:25] <fidget> and then downloaded that .. onto this
[03:25] <fidget> would it work?
[03:25] <Burrito> well, good 4 u anyway
[03:26] <roger> fidget, type "mount" and it should have most of your current information which you can copy out into a new fstab
[03:26] <nalioth> fidget: do you have a livecd?
[03:26] <DoesntMat> hey yall
[03:26] <fidget> I don't ...
[03:27] <fidget> a ubuntu live cd?
[03:27] <DoesntMat> i neeed to get my mouse to work
[03:27] <fidget> I have ... whoppix and knoppix ..
[03:27] <DoesntMat> anyone know how
[03:27] <Demitar> Burrito, have you looked at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41123 (the first hit on google for "ubuntu tv-card") which links to http://xawdecode.sourceforge.net/aideUS/htmlpage/TVCardall.htm ?
[03:27] <roger> if you reboot without  recreating your fstab you won't be able to boot back up again
[03:27] <riffic> oh hell yes i found musepack plugins
[03:27] <riffic> third party, but they work
[03:27] <riffic> DoesntMat: what sort of mouse issues are you having?
[03:27] <fidget> oh ... great ...
[03:27] <DoesntMat> cant move it
[03:27] <Moshe> does ubuntu autoconfigure devices at startup or do you need to do things manually like with slackware?
[03:27] <Burrito> no
[03:27] <riffic> what kind of mouse do you have
[03:28] <roger> fidget, does typing "mount" come up with a load of stuff?
[03:28] <DoesntMat> standard wheel ps2 mouse i think
[03:28] <fidget> I can mount hda1 though in knoppix
[03:28] <nalioth> fidget: see the links you were sent above (from unome) and recreate your fstab using the "mount" command as mentioned by roget
[03:28] <Burrito> but i dont understand english
[03:28] <Burrito> thats the problem
[03:28] <fidget> yes
[03:28] <riffic> what's in your mouse section in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[03:28] <nalioth> Burrito: try another line, that is gettin old
[03:28] <fidget> humm ... I think I will have to do that
[03:28] <DoesntMat> i dont know...
[03:28] <Burrito> no really
[03:28] <Demitar> Burrito, and I don't have a tv-card. Go figure.
[03:28] <DoesntMat> never used linux before..cant operate without mouse = (
[03:28] <transgress> nalioth: that was awesome.  that was the greatest response ever
[03:28] <fidget> much thanks roger nalioth and unome
[03:29] <unome> good luck
[03:29] <nalioth> transgress: what?
[03:29] <gm78> Burrito: ur having problems with a tv card u said?
[03:29] <fidget> wait..
[03:29] <fidget> if I reboot ..and I somehow messed up
[03:29] <fidget> I wont be able to get back in...
[03:29] <Burrito> yes
[03:29] <fidget> should I download a ubuntu live cd first?
[03:29] <Burrito> i cant set it up
[03:29] <SpecialBuddy> whats a good avi player
[03:29] <roger> fidget, yeah, then if it is broken you can boot off the livecd and fix it
[03:30] <DoesntMat> well ...sorry to bother you riffic..but do you have any suggestions
[03:30] <transgress> nalioth: your reply to Burrito made me laugh
[03:30] <fidget> sounds like a plan ... thanks again
[03:30] <nalioth> transgress: well, his english is better then mine (but i'm a Texan)
[03:30] <roger> fidget, no worries, the main ones you need to boot are (if you did a default partitioning) proc, your root, and swap space
[03:31] <DoesntMat> damn it
[03:31] <DoesntMat> anyone know how to get ur mouse working ??
[03:31] <roger> fidget, proc will always be: proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[03:31] <DoesntMat> i did get a xong.conf error in boot up...
[03:31] <roger> fidget, and your root and swap you can get from the output of 'mount'
[03:31] <DoesntMat> xorg **]
[03:31] <msg-me-4-a-game> yes
[03:32] <JDigital> Yup. I can't open any WinRAR files with File Roller, at all.
[03:32] <DoesntMat> F ***
[03:32] <nalioth> JDigital: open a terminal in the directory of your rars and run "unrar filename.rar"
[03:32] <transgress> JDigital: you probably need unrar-nonfree
[03:32] <DoesntMat> is there a way to get ur mouse to work...mine doesnt not work...i get a xorg.conf error when i boot up
[03:33] <DoesntMat> but i still see the dektop
[03:33] <roger> fidget, actually no... to check your swap partition type "cat /proc/swaps" and it will show your swap device there
[03:33] <DoesntMat> so much for help here
[03:33] <djs> DoesntMat, Try this -    <ctrl><alt>F2 ; (log in); sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:34] <DoesntMat> ok
[03:34] <Epithett> hello
[03:34] <DoesntMat> this is at boot up rihgt ??
[03:34] <nalioth> DoesntMat: collectively in here we know all there is to know about ubuntu. the trick for the curious is to time their question so the right person can answer it
[03:34] <djs> DoesntMat, there will be lots of questions asked,  the defaults are usually pretty good
[03:35] <djs> DoesntMat, no you can do it now
[03:35] <nalioth> DoesntMat: follow the inst, no boot up necessary
[03:35] <ravenous> has anyone run into problems running teamspeak under ubuntu?
[03:35] <DoesntMat> im on a diffrnt machine
[03:35] <Epithett> i am totally new to linux and frankly i really don't know how to do anything.  To get internet working on my Ubuntu PC, I have a Linksys Wireless USB adapter.  How to get that installed, I have no idea
[03:36] <chalcedony> * JOEGurl are you here?
[03:36] <rob_> i have a text-based login, which file do i edit to get 'startx' to run upon login?
[03:36] <roger> plug and pray
[03:36] <Epithett> can anyone help me?  i have the steps I need to take, I got them from topics around teh forum, but I have no idea how to do those things and this is where anyone of you come in
[03:36] <ravenous> anyone can help me with teamspeak under ubuntu?
[03:37] <nalioth> Epithett: if you have the steps, ask for more info about each step
[03:37] <Epithett> okay
[03:37] <Quest-Master> Epithett: Search for ndiswrapper
[03:37] <chalcedony> you guys are good :)
[03:37] <Epithett> 1) Add 'wireless_mode managed" before setting essid in the interfaces file.
[03:37] <nalioth> Epithett: because i know nothing about installing wireless cards, but i do know about performing actions on teh system
[03:37] <Epithett> how do i do taht
[03:37] <Quest-Master> Epithett: Learn how to use it, and you will be able to use the Linksys WUSB45 adapter with Ubuntu
[03:37] <JDigital> transgress: I have unrar-nonfree installed
[03:37] <rob_> anyone?
[03:38] <transgress> JDigital: oh yeah that's right... yeah file-roller hates them... whatever kde uses though doesn't heh
[03:38] <JDigital> :\
[03:38] <JDigital> So what you're saying is that Ubuntu can't open Rar files with a graphical interface, without changing the interface entirely?
[03:39] <nalioth> JDigital: use ark
[03:39] <SysFail> ark wont do it?
[03:39] <nalioth> JDigital: as in 'right click" "open with"
[03:39] <fidget> bleh I don't understand dump and pass..
[03:39] <SysFail> i use the command line rar
[03:39] <roger> rob_, what's the output from running "cat /etc/inittab | grep initdefault"
[03:40] <JDigital> I know I can use the command line rar, but there are times when I would like to use the graphical tool.
[03:40] <nalioth> JDigital: does ark work?
[03:40] <rob_> roger, ah ok thx, what is the format of 'initdefault' ?
[03:40] <JDigital> I don't even have ark installed.
[03:41] <nalioth> JDigital: perhaps you should, if you desire a graphical app
[03:41] <SysFail> ark is nice
[03:41] <roger> rob_, basically the number there is the default runlevel that you will boot up to - in ubuntu it should be 2 to start up X
[03:41] <fidget> alright ... i'm going to try this beast out
[03:41] <fidget> wish me luck
[03:41] <roger> fidget, good luck :)
[03:41] <rob_> roger, runlevel 2 will start X? rofl
[03:42] <fidget> hah if you never hear from me again .. then it didn't work
[03:42] <nalioth> fidget: knoppix will get you back here
[03:42] <roger> rob_, if you haven't changed your init scripts from default, yeah...?
[03:42] <DoesntMat> when using  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg what xserver driveer do i select ?
[03:42] <nalioth> DoesntMat: the default is a good choice (or vesa)
[03:42] <DoesntMat> ok =)
[03:42] <SpecialBuddy> what should I do if something freezes up
[03:42] <nalioth> SpecialBuddy: blowtorch?
[03:43] <SpecialBuddy> no
[03:43] <lee_> Seveas> are you around?
[03:43] <SpecialBuddy> a program
[03:43] <bddebian> OK folks, I'm installing Warty on my StinkPad and when I get to the configure screen, my keyboard is hosed.  Can't select a timezone, can't switch to another terminal, nada..  Any ideas?
[03:43] <SpecialBuddy> haha
[03:43] <HrdwrBoB> bddebian: install hoary
[03:43] <HrdwrBoB> it's been out for.. quite some time now
[03:43] <lee_> nalioth> you think you can help me with my wi-fi card?
[03:43] <bddebian> HrdwrBoB: This is the only CD I have handy, from FOSDEM
[03:43] <DoesntMat> damn...i dont know this one either,,,please enter ur video cards pci bus driver
[03:43] <nalioth> SpecialBuddy: one program freezing is not a problem, click on the top right [x]  and a li'l box will open saying "this is not responding, do you want to kill it?)
[03:43] <rob_> roger, nm.. i just appended 'startx' to .bash_profile and it works great.
[03:44] <DoesntMat> it says PCI1.0.0
[03:44] <HrdwrBoB> DoesntMat: yes
[03:44] <HrdwrBoB> just press enter
[03:44] <roger> rob_, good stuff
[03:44] <nalioth> lee_: probably not. i run apple hardware and have 0 experience with wifi for intel
[03:44] <HrdwrBoB> if you don't know, assume the default
[03:44] <DoesntMat> ok
[03:44] <DoesntMat> ok
[03:44] <nalioth> roger: is bash_profile only read once on login?
[03:44] <lee_> nalioth> ok thanks, i wonder who in here can help me
[03:45] <nalioth> roger: or each time a term is opened?
[03:45] <SpecialBuddy> top right x?
[03:45] <nalioth> lee_: ask your question. if no answer wait 5-10 minutes and ask again
[03:45] <SpecialBuddy> of the program?
[03:45] <nalioth> SpecialBuddy: of your programs window
[03:45] <SpecialBuddy> it won't do anything
[03:45] <lee_> nalioth>  ok ill give it a shot, GNULinuxer tried to help but me nor him could figure it out
[03:45] <SpecialBuddy> doesn't respond
[03:46] <tiglionabbit> SpecialBuddy: you trying to kill a program?
[03:46] <SpecialBuddy> yeah
[03:46] <tiglionabbit> there is a widget for the panel in gnome that does that.  Right-click a gnome panel and add it
[03:46] <SpecialBuddy> but it won't respond
[03:46] <roger> nalioth, one or t'other, not sure tbh - he'll find out soon enough ;)
[03:46] <lee_> ok guys, question here about my wi-fi card....  im trying to get the dang thing to work but i keep getting an error message
[03:46] <nalioth> SpecialBuddy: what exactly won't respond?
[03:47] <lee_> the error message is FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[03:47] <lee_> anyone think they can help?
[03:47] <SpecialBuddy> x multimedia system
[03:47] <tiglionabbit> it's called "Force Quit"
[03:47] <SpecialBuddy> do I have to download that
[03:47] <ironmc> I have a Nvidia Sound Storm onboard chip that works with Music Player (which I hate) and Totem but will not work with XMMS (which I love) anybody know of a fix for this??
[03:47] <nalioth> lee_: are you doing the operation using 'sudo'?
[03:47] <lee_> yeah i was even in the root dir
[03:47] <basetan> que mierda
[03:47] <basetan> ja
[03:47] <lee_> i mean root term
[03:47] <tiglionabbit> SpecialBuddy: right-click on either gnome panel, hit "Add to Panel" and select the "Force Quit" item.  You can then click on that icon, and then on the window of the program that is not responding
[03:47] <nalioth> ironmc: don't use xmms
[03:48] <Razor-X> you know how everyone says eventually, you can do anything in emacs?
[03:48] <nalioth> lee_: i personally use 'sudo' and don't bother with the 'root terminal'
[03:48] <ironmc> thanks - gotta be something better than Music Player though??
[03:48] <nalioth> Razor-X: did you build a house with it?
[03:48] <Razor-X> I know one thing emacs will never do
[03:48] <basetan> i am chileeeee
[03:48] <tiglionabbit> SpecialBuddy: Or, you could use Applications->System Tools->System Monitor to kill it
[03:48] <nalioth> ironmc: there are plenty of audio things, use synaptic to search
[03:49] <SpecialBuddy> thanks man
[03:49] <roger> ironmc, if you don't mind about other apps not being able to play sounds, try "pkill esd" which might fix it
[03:49] <SpecialBuddy> got it
[03:49] <ironmc> thanks nalioth
[03:49] <lee_> nalioth> the guide i used told me to use root
[03:49] <lee_> nalioth> it said the sudo gave conflicts
[03:49] <ironmc> thanks roger I'll try that
[03:49] <nalioth> lee_: i'm a mac hardware user, so i have no clue what y'all go thru to install wifi cards
[03:49] <zerokills> pkill esd is the answer to most of my sound problems
[03:49] <Razor-X> psshhhh, why even use vi anyways, get vi running in emacs ;)
[03:49] <tiglionabbit> things you can do in emacs: bootstrap it and run it as an OS/window manager, read email, browse the web, play games, edit text, load in extra modules
[03:49] <lee_> haha
[03:49] <lee_> nalioth> me either LOL
[03:49] <roger> ironmc, try muine if you are looking for a different app ;)
[03:50] <lee_> nalioth> this is what i was following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[03:50] <SpecialBuddy> I still haven't found something to play avi's
[03:50] <SysFail> kaffeine
[03:50] <Razor-X> SpecialBuddy: VLC
[03:50] <tiglionabbit> SpecialBuddy: tried VLC?
[03:50] <roger> SpecialBuddy, totem should work fine, just install all the gstreamer codecs
[03:50] <SysFail> is vlc in synaptic?
[03:50] <tiglionabbit> vlc is a wonderful program, download it
[03:50] <tiglionabbit> yes it is
[03:50] <ironmc> roger that works  THANKS
[03:50] <SpecialBuddy> ok
[03:51] <SpecialBuddy> I will do that
[03:51] <SpecialBuddy> thanks
[03:51] <zerokills> SpecialBuddy, VLC is the bomb
[03:51] <tiglionabbit> roger is right too, with the proper codecs any of your players should be able to play avi format
[03:51] <roger> ironmc, np, just restart esd if you want to use music player again or anything :)
[03:51] <Heathen> I need some help please... I just installed Ubuntu and my passwords are not working???
[03:51] <DoesntMat> ok..im done with the reconfiguring of my mouse and things..now it lists my user name and looks like its wating for me to do something...can i reboot now ?
[03:51] <nalioth> !Root
[03:51] <ubotu> I guess root is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[03:51] <tiglionabbit> Heathen: ^
[03:51] <nalioth> DoesntMat: you dont need to reboot
[03:52] <DoesntMat> dwhat do i do
[03:52] <nalioth> DoesntMat: finish the sequence you started and press <ctrl><alt><f7> to get back to a gui
[03:52] <SpecialBuddy> are there any programs to partition a harddrive without losing data like partition magic
[03:52] <SpecialBuddy> ?
[03:52] <DoesntMat> ok =)
[03:52] <nalioth> SpecialBuddy: qtparted comes closest
[03:52] <Razor-X> SpecialBuddy: QTParted
[03:52] <Heathen> thx... reading :D
[03:53] <roger> SpecialBuddy, or gparted
[03:53] <DoesntMat> lol...my mouse still dont work
[03:53] <DoesntMat> god dman it
[03:53] <nalioth> SpecialBuddy: qtparted and gparted are the same program, different frontends
[03:53] <tiglionabbit> DoesntMat: you can use control-alt and the F keys to access your virtual sessions on the comp.  By default the first 6 are text, the 7th is graphical, and the rest have not been started yet
[03:53] <nalioth> DoesntMat: try a new mouse
[03:53] <SpecialBuddy> ok
[03:53] <SpecialBuddy> thanks
[03:53] <DoesntMat> hmm..
[03:53] <DoesntMat> only got one =(
[03:53] <DoesntMat> son of bitch
[03:54] <DoesntMat> it has to be user error
[03:54] <tiglionabbit> what type of mouse is it?
[03:54] <DoesntMat> =(
[03:54] <roger> DoesntMat, what's the error?
[03:54] <djs> nalioth, He'd have to restart X wouldn't he
[03:54] <DoesntMat> its jsut as generic as it gets..black ps2
[03:54] <djs> ?
[03:54] <SpecialBuddy> I'm probably going to be screwed if I try to install windows after ubuntu right?
[03:54] <DoesntMat> no name
[03:54] <tiglionabbit> SpecialBuddy: no
[03:54] <tiglionabbit> there's ways to get it back...
[03:54] <n8rtw> Hello and help on install
[03:54] <Heathen> My password is not working... I keep getting an error saying :Child Terminated with 1 status"
[03:54] <tiglionabbit> I mean to fix grub.  Where's the howto on that?
[03:55] <roger> DoesntMat, you'll need to restart X like djs said if you updated the config
[03:55] <nalioth> djs: was gettin to that
[03:55] <roger> DoesntMat, ctrl alt f7, then ctrl alt backspace
[03:55] <DoesntMat> i should buy a new mouse any ways...do you recomend one that will workk
[03:55] <tiglionabbit> Heathen: that means there was an error, in the most general sense possible.  What exactly are you doing?
[03:55] <DoesntMat> ill try that
[03:55] <linlin> tiglionabbit www.ubuntuguide.org maybe has what your looking for
[03:55] <nalioth> DoesntMat: have you restarted X?
[03:55] <DoesntMat> i dont know
[03:55] <DoesntMat> lo
[03:55] <DoesntMat> l
[03:55] <xero_> how do i use the export PATH thing?? i wanan set it to that when i call eclipise from the command line it starts Eclipse (which is in /usr/local/eclipse/)
[03:55] <DoesntMat> how do you do that
[03:55] <tiglionabbit> DoesntMat: to restart x, switch to it and hit control-alt-backspace
[03:55] <djs> DoesntMat, roger's instructions will restart X
[03:55] <SpecialBuddy> tiglionabbit: it's not going to mess it up if I try to do a dual partition
[03:56] <DoesntMat> k
[03:56] <DoesntMat> brb
[03:56] <Heathen> Anything :)  I just installed this and it says I have 25 updates to install... however it asks for my password.. which I enter then it gives me the error?
[03:56] <roger> xero_, "export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/eclipse/"
[03:56] <tiglionabbit> SpecialBuddy: nope, I've got dual boot.  It does help to install windows first though, because windows tends to complain when there are other partitions on its install.  It may force you to delete them
[03:56] <ironmc> thanks roger --- I was off picking out music...
[03:56] <steven__> why at boot time i get this message: Couldnt use the hardward clock as reference
[03:57] <izzo> I need help setting up a Bluetooth USB dongle on Ubuntu, can't seem to get the device to be used by any software, dmesg returns: usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4, programs return: Can't get device info: No such device
[03:57] <nalioth> SpecialBuddy: you can have as many partitions as you like
[03:57] <kiwiwikki> hai all
[03:57] <Sysace> hey guys... just finally finished downloading an Ubuntu DVD, breezy.. thought it was an installation dvd.  Now here I am apparently in a livecd environment, so I'm wondering if there is a way to install from this disk?  any help appreciated
[03:57] <tiglionabbit> steven__: could mean the tiny battery in your computer is dead.  Does it get the time on your clock completely wrong?
[03:57] <SpecialBuddy> see I kept installing windows first but then when I installed ubuntu it would screw up
[03:57] <zerokills> hai = yes in japanese
[03:57] <kiwiwikki> i need some help but im a newbie
[03:57] <tiglionabbit> SpecialBuddy: know much about partitioning?
[03:57] <Heathen> so are we all kiwi :D
[03:57] <SpecialBuddy> so I installed it without the grub installing to windows and it would still screw up
[03:57] <nalioth> Sysace: at the prompt of your dvd, look for "for help hit <whatever key>"
[03:57] <zerokills> what do you need help with?
[03:58] <SpecialBuddy> partioning isn't the problem
[03:58] <kiwiwikki> thks
[03:58] <DoesntMat> i hit ctrl alt backsapce..then it asked me for my login..i logged in..now im at a blank black screen with a text line at the top wating for me
[03:58] <Heathen> Anyone on my password issues?
[03:58] <SpecialBuddy> it's getting the dual boot to work
[03:58] <djs> DoesntMat, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:58] <SysFail> wow vlc uses alot more processor to play dvds than kaffeine does
[03:58] <DoesntMat> kk
[03:58] <crazyhorse> Sysace, i think you don't want to install breezy atm (see topic)
[03:58] <coolkev> what is the easiest program to set up an ftp on ubuntu
[03:58] <coolkev> not console based
[03:58] <Sysace> nalioth:  I've done that, and from what I read, passing the install option should work, but I still end up in X for what appears to be livecd.
[03:58] <coolkev> i like g.u.i
[03:58] <tiglionabbit> SpecialBuddy: I'm using hoary stable.  It worked for me automatically--  I installed Ubuntu after windows, and grub added a line for booting windows xp
[03:59] <kiwiwikki> my prob is : hot to get name n password in to my cups system
[03:59] <SpecialBuddy> well I will ihave to try it but I'm not certain if it will work
[03:59] <kiwiwikki> my prob is : how to get name n password in to my cups system
[03:59] <SpecialBuddy> thanks for all the help though
[03:59] <nalioth> Sysace: 1: i run a mac ibook, 2: i won't go near breezy until it's been out a few weeks so im not gonna be much help
[03:59] <Sysace> crazyhorse:  I realize its still early stages.. but downloading 5.04 would take me a long time again.. is it possible to install from this breezy disk that I now have?
[03:59] <SpecialBuddy> I'm a noob with linux:)
[03:59] <DoesntMat> nvm..it dont let me type
[04:00] <tiglionabbit> Sysace: I believe there is a guide on the wiki about that.  Search it
[04:00] <kiwiwikki> anybody know about CUPS unix print
[04:00] <DoesntMat> ill just have to reboot manually
[04:00] <Sysace> is there a dvd disk for 5.04?
[04:00] <nalioth> Sysace: yes
[04:00] <nalioth> Sysace: bittorrent only
[04:00] <tiglionabbit> Sysace: there is a live/install dvd, available via torrent
[04:00] <tiglionabbit> I've got one burned
[04:00] <tiglionabbit> bwahaha
[04:00] <steven__> tiglionabbit, nop the clock is right and the battery is full
[04:00] <kiwiwikki> anybody know about CUPS unix print...plzz
[04:00] <djs> DoesntMat, try    <ctrl><alt>F2   first
[04:00] <DoesntMat> kk
[04:00] <Sysace> k, thanks guys.. will see if I can find it  :)
[04:00] <crazyhorse> Sysace, i never tried it, sorry. well, the problem with breezy isn't the stage, they are changing to gcc4 and it has a new (incompliant) c++ ABI, so most programs written in c++ won't work