[22:18] <Pudge> nocturnal: you have to be famillar with it, other wise, try other DE instead of unity
[22:18] <nocturnal_> im fine with the close button on the left
[22:18] <nocturnal_> how do I get de
[22:19] <Pudge> nocturnal: desktop environment , like KDE, gnome, LXDE, choose your favirate one
[22:20] <everydaylinuxuse> nocturnal give unity a month. it is well worth it
[22:20] <nocturnal_> hmm ok
[22:20] <everydaylinuxuse> you get used to the menu being the way it is.
[22:20] <everydaylinuxuse> searching for things in unity is faster than any other desktop i have used
[22:20] <nocturnal_> can I disable auto mazimize window
[22:20] <nocturnal_> it happnes when dragging the window
[22:21] <bekks> It only happens when you drag it too far to the top/bottom.
[22:21] <nocturnal_> ok
[22:21] <k1l> nocturnal: dont drag the windows to the edges or disable the feature
[22:22] <theslow1> what is the proper way to write an iso image to USB?
[22:22] <k1l> theslow1: use dd
[22:22] <RobertBColton> whosea fbi agent?
[22:22] <theslow1> k1l, thanks
[22:22] <RobertBColton> KindOne, im on to u
[22:25] <nocturnal_> how come the launcher bar dont always unhide
[22:27] <MonkeyDust> nocturnal_  system settings > appearance > behaviour
[22:28] <zykotick9> theslow1: k1l's suggestion will only work for hybrid ISOs (most aren't)
[22:29] <theslow1> zykotick9, how do i find out whether or not the ISO is hybrid?
[22:29] <nocturnal> i set the launcher to auto hide now it wont come back
[22:29] <zykotick9> theslow1: what is it?  if it's a recent ubuntu, it is.
[22:30] <theslow1> its a windows7 image from msdn
[22:30] <MonkeyDust> nocturnal  take your time to explore the new interface and get used to it, like we all did
[22:30] <k1l> theslow1: for that windows support you better ask in ##windows
[22:31] <zykotick9> theslow1: it isn't.  but i don't care about your issue... so good luck.
[22:31] <theslow1> k1l, zykotick9 thanks
[22:42] <BlackGriffen> Is there any way to disable the password length limit on the Remote Desktop Viewer Ubuntu application?
[22:44] <wiak> do someone know howto fix the battery criticly low on 99% battery bug? :P
[22:44] <wiak> its soo cool thats awesome :P
[22:45] <bluefox83> shiz, i was gonna tell blackgryphon that you can only have 8char passwds in vnc anyways
[22:45] <xavier23> HI… trying to create a blank file on ubuntu…… iM told that `/dev/zero` doesn't exist……. ???
[22:45] <bekks> xavier23: How do you try to create the file?
[22:45] <bluefox83> wiak: i have that issue no matter how much my battery is charged...it's not really that bad
[22:45] <xavier23> bekks: using `dd`
[22:46] <bluefox83> xavier23: what the heck!?! just 'touch filename'
[22:46] <jrib> xavier23: just "dd"?  That won't do much.
[22:46] <bekks> xavier23: How? Whats the exact command?
[22:46] <xavier23> bluefox83: needs to be a special format of file
[22:47] <xavier23> (for a swap file)
[22:47] <xavier23> `dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/fasthdd/swapfile.img bs=1024 count=1M`
[22:47] <bluefox83> xavier23: shouldn't matter...if all you are doing is creating it you can touch it to create it...until it has something *IN* it, then it's just any old file anyways
[22:47] <jrib> xavier23: what ubuntu version is this?  How did you install it?
[22:48] <xavier23> bluefox83: it does matter, because the file has to be a certain size
[22:48] <xavier23> jrib: Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS
[22:48] <jrib> xavier23:  How did you install it?
[22:48] <dajepp> have a tech sue if anyone is up for it
[22:48] <jrib> !ask | dajepp
[22:48] <xavier23> jrib: not sure how it was installed… it was installed by someone else.
[22:49] <jrib> xavier23: ask that person why you don't have /dev/zero?
[22:49] <xavier23> jrib: suspect it was upgraded
[22:49] <xavier23> jrib: is there any quick way of getting /dev/zero back?
[22:49] <dajepp> have a dell laptop Latitude D620 that I just installed Ubuntu 13.04 on.  I can't see any wiFi networks
[22:50] <xavier23> this is a super weird problem...lol
[22:50] <jrib> xavier23: I don't know.  But I would be curious as to what exactly the reason is it's not there.  So I'm not surprised later by similar issues.
[22:51] <jrib> xavier23: you can google "mknod", but I really suggest you investigate how this system was installed
[22:52] <bluefox83> xavier23: tried fallocate?
[22:53] <bluefox83> some googling sent me to a site that suggested fallocate in place of mkfile (since mkfile is from solaris or something...)
[22:53] <jrib> bluefox83: who brought up mkfile?
[22:53] <Sik> Trying to use apt-get tells me that /var/lib/apt/lists/lock and /var/lib/dpkg/lock are locked (even after rebooting), and that's effectively locking me out of apt-get and dpkg. Does anybody know how to unlock those files?
[22:53] <xavier23> jrib: thanks. mknod looks pretty hellish. bluefox83: i'll try it, thanx..
[22:54] <jrib> xavier23: yeah, speak with the person that installed your system.
[22:54] <bluefox83> jrib: it was in a forum
[22:54] <juansf111> hello, im new with ubuntu, just installed it and have some questions... Is there anyone who can help me?
[22:54] <bluefox83> also also mkfile will work in ubuntu O.o
[22:54] <jrib> !ask | juansf111
[22:54] <bluefox83> i think...holdon
[22:54] <juansf111> Sorry for my english btw
[22:55] <bluefox83> nope, i'm wrong...no mkfile
[22:55] <Pudge> 中国人？
[22:55] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[22:55] <Pudge> lol
[22:55] <bluefox83> heh
[22:56] <bluefox83> was that kanji? O.o
[22:56] <dajepp> have a dell laptop Latitude D620 that I just installed Ubuntu 13.04 on.  I can't see any wiFi networks. It worked fine with windows.  Any suggestions?
[22:56] <Sik> bluefox83: yes (kanji characters come from Chinese)
[22:56] <juansf111> Thank you very much. Here is the deal. I Just installe windows again in my pc (windows 7) . I have a 500gb  hard drive, so I created a partition of 250 gb while installing windows. After  finishing installing it, I Intalled Ubuntu. I used the option "Install Allongside windows", and it already finished...
[22:56] <bluefox83> Sik: but don't always mean the same things, i am told...
[22:56] <juansf111> My question is if it installed in the same partition than windows, or in the free space...
[22:57] <bluefox83> dajepp: uh...make sure there aren't any onboard buttons on the laptop that turn wifi off...
[22:57] <bluefox83> juansf111: in the free space
[22:58] <bluefox83> my wife's old latitude used to have a key combination that turned wifi on, that stupid fn button and another one along the top...you might want to look for that dajepp
[22:59] <Pudge> juansf111: u can check it by checking your disk usage
[22:59] <bluefox83> my mother-in-law called me up crying her eyes out one time because she couldn't get wifi to work on her latitude (also running ubuntu) and i had to go over to fix it...took me 4 seconds to figure out and fix >.>
[23:00] <namora> any way I can perform an offline kernel upgrade? offline as in, without booting the OS. from Windows/OS X by mounting the linux partition, in other words.
[23:00] <bluefox83> her neighbor who swore was a "tech genius, and computer professional" couldn't figure it out after 2 hours though...lol
[23:00] <harveyb144> Any wired nic gurus around?
[23:00] <MonkeyDust> bluefox83  that's nice, but keep the channel clear for support, please
[23:00] <bluefox83> namora: why would you want to do that!?!
[23:00] <namora> bluefox83: can't boot Ubuntu
[23:01] <bluefox83> namora: why not? i seem to have missed that O.o
[23:01] <namora> namora: can't even get to GRUB to boot it.
[23:01] <Pudge> namora: what u need is to fix your grub, not the kernel
[23:01] <namora> bluefox83: oh that was the first thing I wrote in IRC xD
[23:01] <namora> Pudge: well, i don't really want grub at all
[23:01] <bluefox83> namora: lol, sorry i'm in irssi and things go by fast >.>
[23:01] <namora> basically I'm trying to set up an EFISTUB boot
[23:01] <bluefox83> namora: well then you will have to install lilo?
[23:02] <Pudge> namora: in that case u have to edit your windows's boot.ini
[23:02] <bluefox83> O.o
[23:02] <namora> the problem is EFISTUB support only landed in kernel 3.3 and i'm on precise (3.2)
[23:02] <namora> Pudge: I'm actually on OS X
[23:02] <namora> or a mac, rather.
[23:02] <dajepp_> Anyone know how to make my dell wireless card work with Ubuntu 13.04?
[23:02] <bluefox83> well, what does your mac use as the boot loader? O.o
[23:02] <Pudge> namora: so lilo is ur choice
[23:03] <bluefox83> dajepp: did you look for the wifi button like i suggested?
[23:03] <namora> Pudge: EFISTUB is my choice. I want to boot direct from EFI.
[23:03] <namora> bluefox83: rEFInd
[23:03] <Pudge> namora: ofcoz u can, but u have to add ur ubuntu boot information into it
[23:03] <namora> but it's a boot manager, not really a boot loader
[23:04] <namora> Pudge: I can boot the kernel directly from the EFI without a dedicated boot loader
[23:04] <namora> the problem is I need to upgrade the kernel to do so, and I can't boot it at all right now because I borked my partition scheme
[23:05] <Kalel> Greetings..
[23:05] <gordonjcp> namora: I thoroughly recommend refind ;-)
[23:05] <nocturnal_> got no sound
[23:05] <namora> gordonjcp: i love rEFInd.  following this: http://www.rodsbooks.com/ubuntu-efi/
[23:05] <nocturnal_> im using external speakers
[23:05] <Kalel> I had installed the new kernel irc, later, the new amd beta driver. Well, The unity doesn't start now!
[23:06] <harveyb144> 12.04 old gateway with two nic's. Both work in windoze, eth0 says cable is disconnected. Anyone have any ideas what to try?
[23:06] <reisio> did you try reconnecting the cable?
[23:06] <gordonjcp> namora: it should work okay.  I used exactly that page to help me set up 12.10 on a Macbook 3,1
[23:07] <Sik> Repeating: trying to use apt-get tells me that /var/lib/apt/lists/lock and /var/lib/dpkg/lock are locked (even after rebooting), and that's effectively locking me out of apt-get and dpkg. Does anybody know how to unlock those files?
[23:07] <harveyb144> Cable never disconnected! Windoze it works, 12.04 says its disconnected.
[23:07] <NanduX> Sik are you using 'sudo apt-get...'?
[23:07] <Pudge> namora: It can boot ur ubuntu, just need some config
[23:07] <reisio> harveyb144: what does lspci | grep -i net say you've got?
[23:07] <nocturnal_> I got no sound
[23:07] <nocturnal_> what to do
[23:08] <namora> gordonjcp: oh really? that's excellent. did you/do you use FileVault?
[23:08] <namora> gordonjcp: I'm trying to get the whole thing set up with full disk encryption
[23:08] <gordonjcp> namora: no, what's filevault?
[23:08] <Kalel> That is the new installed kernel 3.11.0-031100rc6-generic
[23:08] <namora> gordonjcp: OS X's built in full-disk encryption system
[23:08] <Sik> NanduX: ...I should have known better ._.' (for some reason I thought it was being locked out because the update manager halted halfway through an update)
[23:09] <Pudge> nocturnal_: open ur terminal, try command "alsamixer" and see what u get
[23:09] <harveyb144> reisio eth0 (bad one) says Macronix, .. MX987x5 (rev 25)..
[23:09] <Sik> Also, Anthy is broken, I can't type Japanese characters without the system locking up. First updating the packages to make sure that doesn't fix it.
[23:09] <gordonjcp> namora: no, I think full disk encryption is the most apocalyptically retarded idea in the whole field of computing
[23:09] <Pudge> gordonjcp: lol
[23:10] <gordonjcp> namora: it's slow and it's guaranteed to lose you some data
[23:10] <namora> gordonjcp: are you serious?
[23:10] <namora> the performance hit is 0-5%
[23:10] <gordonjcp> you couldn't pay me to cripple my disk performance with that pointless cack
[23:10] <reisio> harveyb144: anything else?
[23:10] <namora> it has absolutely no perceptible performance hit
[23:10] <gordonjcp> namora: yup, that makes it unusable
[23:11] <gordonjcp> disks are already far too slow
[23:11] <namora> gordonjcp: well I can tell you I see absolutely zero performance hit running it on my SSD
[23:11] <reisio> disks keep getting faster, and processors have specific instruction sets for encryption these days
[23:11] <namora> because of AES-NI
[23:11] <moondog> gordonjcp: good for removable backup drives though no?
[23:11] <gordonjcp> moondog: nope
[23:11] <namora> exactly, reisio.
[23:11] <gordonjcp> moondog: never, ever back up onto an encrypted drive
[23:11] <reisio> plus, it doesn't really matter if you actually need encryption
[23:11] <Pudge> gordonjcp: u can hate it but u can't deny other's work
[23:11] <reisio> any hit will be worth it
[23:11] <nocturnal_> now what
[23:11] <moondog> gordonjcp: why?
[23:12] <nocturnal_> there no volumes that are below half
[23:12] <gordonjcp> moondog: well, do, but back up onto an unencrypted drive too
[23:12] <Pudge> nocturnal_: see some bars that can modify ur volume?
[23:12] <gordonjcp> moondog: if you have a single bad sector on the disk, if it begins to fail, you've lost *everything*
[23:12] <harveyb144> reisio 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Macronix, Inc. [MXIC] MX987x5 (rev 25) (end of line: next line describes eth1 card )
[23:12] <moondog> interesting
[23:12] <moondog> thanks for the info
[23:12] <reisio> harveyb144: and eth1 is irrelevant for some reason?
[23:13] <namora> first of all, no you wouldn't. and second of all, even if it did break completely, you'd just restore from a backup
[23:13] <nocturnal_> help
[23:13] <nocturnal_> the bars dont seem to do aynthing
[23:13] <nocturnal_> anything*
[23:13] <harveyb144> reisio eth1 works just fine; trying to get eth0 working as well (two networks here)
[23:13] <moondog> I was just thinking storing my external hard drive backup in my desk at work was a tad risky without encryption
[23:14] <nocturnal_> I can highlight it like text
[23:14] <gordonjcp> namora: yes, you would, because the entire volume has to be readable to decrypt it
[23:14] <gordonjcp> namora: and if the drive is beginning to fail, it won't be entirely readable
[23:14] <namora> gordonjcp: i don't think you understand how AES-XTS works, which is the specific implementation i'm referring to
[23:14] <gordonjcp> the whole thing is pointless, anyway
[23:14] <gordonjcp> no-one cares enough about you to want to read your disk
[23:14] <moondog> heh
[23:14] <reisio> harveyb144: lspci -nn | grep -i net
[23:15] <namora> well that's a completely separate point
[23:15] <nocturnal_> it was at 47 perfect the master was
[23:15] <nocturnal_> I moved it up still no sound
[23:15] <bluefox83> hey, those of you that were trying to help me move data from one drive to another last night...i found a laptop hard drive that has enough space...problem is there is no appropriate type of power plug for it!
[23:15] <daftykins> is it molex or SATA?
[23:15] <reisio> bluefox83: use your desktop
[23:16] <bluefox83> reisio: that's what i mean. i can't plug it into the desktop because there's no power plugin...it's some wierd thing that looks a little like the sata connector, but it's like an inch and a half long O.o
[23:16] <bluefox83> i don't have anything in my desktop that hooks to that :(
[23:16] <reisio> bluefox83: plug the drive that's already in the laptop into the desktop
[23:16] <geomyidae_> Can I remotely wake up the kscreenlocker from an SSH session? thanks.
[23:17] <reisio> geomyidae_: probably, see if it has a man page
[23:17] <bluefox83> reisio: ...yeah i just said i can't do that
[23:17] <reisio> bluefox83: why not?
[23:17] <bluefox83> sata connector wont power the drive by itself will it?
[23:17] <harveyb144> reisio 01:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Macronix, Inc. [MXIC] MX987x5 [10d9:0531] (rev 25)   (then line for eth0)
[23:17] <reisio> bluefox83: doesn't need to
[23:17] <reisio> bluefox83: you have power cables in the desktop already
[23:17] <bluefox83> there aren't any cables on the laptop
[23:18] <bluefox83> those cables wont fit the drive...i checked D:
[23:18] <reisio> the laptop has nothing to do with connecting a drive to the desktop :)
[23:18] <bluefox83> i know that
[23:18] <bluefox83> the drive is weird
[23:18] <reisio> bluefox83: so they're pata and the desktop is sata?
[23:18] <bluefox83> uh..i guess so O.o
[23:18] <bluefox83> holdon let me grab the drive real fast
[23:19] <reisio> harveyb144: presumably you meant 'then line for ethONE' ?
[23:19] <nocturnal_> ok fixed it
[23:20] <harveyb144> reisio yep, sorry..
[23:20] <reisio> harveyb144: lsmod | grep -i tulip
[23:20] <geomyidae_> reisio: I literally can't figure out what to man for. They've removed kscreensaver and kscreenlover. I think it's kxsrun and kxsconfig but I haven't found anything useful related to either of those yet.
[23:21] <bluefox83> reisio: correct me if i'm wrong here, but an sata connector doesn't also power the drive...right?
[23:21] <harveyb144> reisio tulip  52515 0
[23:21] <reisio> geomyidae_: you could try DISPLAY=:0 xscreensaver-command -deactivate
[23:21] <reisio> bluefox83: not IME :)
[23:21] <reisio> bluefox83: but it needn't, because your desktop has power
[23:21] <reisio> and so does your laptop
[23:22]  * bluefox83 hasn't got the foggiest notion what that mean
[23:22] <reisio> in my experience
[23:22] <bluefox83> reisio: yes, but i can't hook it into both...because that laptop is retarded in it's construction >.>
[23:22] <reisio> you can't hook what into both of what?
[23:23] <reisio> harveyb144: ok, I'm guessing it's just a simple misconfiguration then
[23:23] <bluefox83> i can't hook the drive into the laptop for power and the desktop for data
[23:23] <bluefox83> wont fit :(
[23:23] <bluefox83> it's a hitachi drive made for gateway...
[23:24] <harveyb144> reisio any tips greatly appreciated. i have tried setting static ip and setting ipv6 to "ignore" so far.
[23:24] <bekks> bluefox83: what does "made for gateway" mean?
[23:24] <bluefox83> nevermind >.>
[23:24] <bluefox83> this is a whole lotta dancing around for nothing...
[23:25] <reisio> bluefox83: it's probably just a shell, if anything
[23:25] <bluefox83> reisio: yeah...don't worry about it, just believe me when i say it's not physically feasable
[23:26] <reisio> I don't, but I believe you won't bother :)
[23:26] <reisio> did you abort the network transfer?
[23:26] <bluefox83> i have another drive that it's feasible with but it's only 80gb :(
[23:27] <bluefox83> reisio: no...i keep getting errors about invalid argument. but most of the files are transfering
[23:27] <bluefox83> still >.>
[23:27] <reisio> oh, using what command?
[23:27] <bluefox83> drag and freaking drop over smb >.>
[23:27] <bluefox83> because rsync kept failing completely
[23:28] <reisio> :/
[23:28] <bluefox83> so yeah...this is getting nuts
[23:28] <reisio> rsync stopped running?
[23:28] <bluefox83> i should find a bunch of old 80g drives and just copy what i can over >.>
[23:28] <bluefox83> uh..no it failed
[23:28] <reisio> failed?
[23:29] <reisio> just go to the store and get the most-capacity-for-price external eSATA/USB3/2 hard drive you can, you'll need the storage eventually
[23:29] <bluefox83> yep that's what i said..
[23:29] <reisio> so the process stopped?
[23:29] <bluefox83> yeah
[23:29] <bluefox83> it said something about it not being allowed
[23:29] <GiGaHuRtZ> IdleOne: Wanna do something more?
[23:30] <usr13> bluefox83: Here is the way it works.   Ctrl+Space does nothing, switching to Anthy from the menu does nothing either. If I select it twice it does select Anthy, but it behaves like normal input instead of Japanese input. Help?
[23:31] <bluefox83> usr13: yeah i've been here plenty of times...i also know that sometimes those solutions don't work...which is what happened to me
[23:31] <reisio> I wouldn't use a GUI to transfer 230GB if you paid me
[23:31] <bluefox83> well i'm picking and choosing instead of just cramming the whole thing
[23:32] <usr13> bluefox83: If all you can say is that it is hopeless and there is no solution, then it *is* hopless.
[23:32]  * daftykins puts £100 in front of reisio
[23:32] <reisio> daftykins: thanks :)
[23:32] <daftykins> no no, you have to copy 230GB with a GUI first.
[23:32] <reisio> daftykins: oh, pass
[23:32] <bluefox83> usr13: thanks, get that from a fortune cookie?
[23:32] <daftykins> XD
[23:33] <usr13> bluefox83: Take a good hard look at my first comment.
[23:33] <ShapeShifter499> I came across the "ubuntu is spyware" argument today, how do you guys feel about this?
[23:33] <bluefox83> ok, i'll ask this about using rsync...i'm moving data from my server to my laptop, i use rsync from my laptop right?
[23:34] <ShapeShifter499> actually I'll post that question in #ubuntu-discuss
[23:34] <harveyb144> reisio in network tools received packets count is incrementing, ipv4 shows <IP_ADDRESS> in "IP Information" but manually entered address if I go to "configure".. ideas?
[23:34] <xangua> ShapeShifter499: i deactivate it :P
[23:35] <reisio> harveyb144: nope; #networking maybe
[23:36] <harveyb144> reisio Thanks for the help.
[23:37] <xyz123> user and group permission question; i have a group called dev which is assigned as a secondary group to a user xyz; ... I also have a /media/development directory which is root.dev with 77 perm. ; now as a xyz user when i try to create directories in /media/development directory i get permission denied, i know that the user xyz belongs to the dev grouop which has full permissions. what am i doing wrong?
[23:37] <xyz123> 77 perm / 775
[23:37] <delinquentme> soo I've just downloaded a jquery ui codebase  and I cant seem to delete it even with "sudo rm "
[23:37] <delinquentme> ideas?
[23:38] <reisio> delinquentme: what does rm say?
[23:38] <delinquentme> rm: cannot remove `js/libs/jquery-ui-1.10.2/': Permission denied
[23:38] <delinquentme> :P
[23:38] <xyz123> heh
[23:38] <delinquentme> its like linux thinks its windows
[23:38] <reisio> delinquentme: what does sudo rm say?
[23:39]  * delinquentme facepalms
[23:39] <Pudge> ShapeShifter499: "spy" means did something and hide itself that u can't find it
[23:39] <delinquentme> sudo rm -rf js/libs/jquery-ui-1.10.2
[23:39] <delinquentme> no wait.. im still getting denied!
[23:39] <delinquentme> @_@
[23:39] <usr13> xyz123:  ls -l /media |grep development  #What does it say?
[23:40] <Pudge> ShapeShifter499: but linux/ubuntu is opensource, how can it hide itself
[23:41] <reisio> delinquentme: what's it say exactly?
[23:41] <usr13> xyz123: or just ls -ld /media/development
[23:42] <usr13> xyz123: Show us.....
[23:42] <delinquentme> Oh ... weird
[23:42] <delinquentme> so i used $ rm -rf js/libs/jquery-ui-1.10.2/
[23:42] <delinquentme> without sudo
[23:42] <delinquentme> and it delete it
[23:42] <FloodBot1> delinquentme: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:42] <delinquentme> deleted**
[23:42] <Sik> Repeating: I can't use Anthy. Ctrl+Space does nothing, switching to Anthy from the menu does nothing either. If I select it twice it does select Anthy, but it behaves like normal input instead of Japanese input. Any ideas to fix it?
[23:42] <reisio> delinquentme: so maybe you confused the error about not being able to rm directories without -r, with the permissions error
[23:43] <delinquentme> reisio, i used $ sudo rm -rf path/to/dir
[23:43] <ShapeShifter499> Pudge, lol
[23:43] <reisio> dunno about that, but it's academic now :)
[23:44] <usr13> xyz123: grep xyz /etc/group  #What does that say?
[23:46] <phillyj> hi, i'm installing a new printer and it needs new drivers; Can I leave the old drivers (HPLIP) or have to remove them?
[23:47] <Pudge> phillyj: just keep it if no conflit
[23:47] <xyz123> usr13: dev:x:1020:xyz
[23:48] <phillyj> alright, thx Pudge
[23:48] <xyz123> usr13: drwxrwxr-x 3 root dev 4096 Aug 17 15:38 /media/development
[23:49] <rscnt> hi
[23:49] <rscnt> how is this
[23:49] <xyz123> this is nice
[23:49] <rscnt> this is
[23:49] <xyz123> nice
[23:49] <rscnt> a lot of people here
[23:49] <AbitChubby> is there a chat channel for ubuntu on this ?
[23:50] <xyz123> AbitChubby: and its nice
[23:50] <rscnt> oh
[23:50] <rscnt> so
[23:50] <rscnt> all people here
[23:50] <rscnt> are using ubuntu?
[23:50] <AbitChubby> n o
[23:51] <Ari-Yang> AbitChubby, there's #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:51] <rscnt> oh
[23:51] <rscnt> ok
[23:51] <Ari-Yang> for off topic stuff, discussions etc.
[23:51] <xyz123> usr13: slow with the response due to mucking about..... do please respond on your analysis :)
[23:51] <rscnt> bye
[23:51] <rscnt> sorry
[23:51] <Ari-Yang> no worrie-
[23:51] <Ari-Yang> :/
[23:51] <AbitChubby> right so this is support only :)
[23:52] <AbitChubby> ?
[23:54] <xyz123> its support as long as someone responds to you :)
[23:54] <xyz123> ...technically
[23:56] <usr13> xyz123: If you are logged in as xyz, you should be able to mkdir /media/development/what-ever  #If what you say is true, I do not know why you cant. Maybe I'm missing something... if so, someone please let us know.
[23:57] <roasted> is anybody well versed in autofs? I can't seem to get mine working. The share comes up as blank when I navigate to what's in auto.master.
[23:58] <din> roasted: yes.
[23:58] <usr13> xyz123: What is behind this mount point, /media/development?  (What kind of device is it?)
[23:59] <usr13> xyz123: mount
[23:59] <usr13> xyz123: mount  |grep media
[23:59] <xyz123> usr13: its my secondary hd (sdb)