[00:00] <sydney> daftykins: oops,sorry,i forgot about that. :-/
[00:00] <testing22> well fml, maybe it’s not a gzip archive
[00:01] <testing22> guess i need to take that up with the maintainers
[00:01] <testing22> sorry
[00:02] <whitepowder> testing22: does it show gzipped on the other machines? or same (posix tar)?
[00:02] <ryan123> Hello guys
[00:02] <whitepowder> testing22: file is much more reliable than dos-style extensions as it uses magic from the file to figure out what it is
[00:03] <daftykins> ryan123: hi
[00:03] <ryan123> I'm having troblue trying to install Vuze and OpenJDK 7
[00:03] <testing22> whitepowder all other machines are showing: druid-services-0.6.121-bin.tar.gz: POSIX tar archive
[00:03] <testing22> so i’m assuming that those machines are just automagically skipping the gunzip
[00:03] <ryan123> daftykins: I'm having troblue trying to install Vuze and OpenJDK 7
[00:03] <daftykins> testing22: i suspect if you were running extract commands expecting a gzipped tar, the versions on those platforms are just bright enough to realise it's not and carry on anyway
[00:03] <whitepowder> testing22: tar's probably just ignoring the z option then, tar will work without it entirely, see also tar xf whatever.tar.gz for example
[00:03] <daftykins> ryan123: yeah i saw you say, i was waiting for more detail
[00:03] <Ethos> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:pipelight/stable don't work, help.
[00:04] <testing22> makes sense
[00:04] <testing22> thanks a ton
[00:04] <|PuNKCaT|> I've been having some major issues with my desktop, was running 12.4 stable, but had a bunch of files missing after the original drive failed and the clonzilla didn't seem to copy properly, am installing 14.4 trusty over top, but it's been almost 24hours unpacking and installing.. is this normal?
[00:04] <ryan123> daftykins: Meaning?
[00:04] <daftykins> Ethos: that's probably because it's "add-apt-repository" iirc
[00:04] <whitepowder> testing22: np, file (and magic) rocks for this stuff
[00:05] <xangua> |PuNKCaT|: you are installing over top of a failing drive¿
[00:05] <ki7mt> +1 on file, can't live without that app
[00:05] <ryan123> daftykins: I've typed - ryan@RLW-PC:~$ sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help t
[00:05] <|PuNKCaT|> no, on a brand new hard drive
[00:05] <daftykins> !pastebin | ryan123
[00:05] <sydney> |PuNKCaT|: Are you installing from a cd?
[00:05] <hdon> hi all :) i'm trying to use reptyr(1) but i think apparmor is holding me up EVEN as root. using ubuntu 12.04. can anyone help?
[00:05] <testing22> yeah, it’s just for some reason now that version of tar packed with ubuntu is not automatically ignoring the z option. i’ll just run tar … || tar …
[00:06] <|PuNKCaT|> nope, installing from the website/ whatever
[00:06] <ryan123> !pastebin | daftykins
[00:06] <whitepowder> failed drives *suck* thats why im trying to piece together a thumbdrive that reinstalls and maybe even has a live system
[00:06] <ryan123> ;)
[00:06] <daftykins> ryan123: don't spam.
[00:06] <whitepowder> testing22: just ommit the z entirely unless creating an archive
[00:07] <testing22> whitepowder it’s possible that that archive could end up being gzipped in the future, will tar figure that out automatically?
[00:07] <ryan123> daftykins: help me then?
[00:07] <sydney> |PuNKCaT|: ah,you are upgrading?
[00:07] <|PuNKCaT|> yes
[00:08] <daftykins> ryan123: your paste wasn't complete, i'd need it pasted via the pastebin service as suggested.
[00:08] <whitepowder> testing22: Yes, bzip2 (and probably others) as well. I'm not sure exactly when this behaviour became default in gnu tar but i know its been many years, and bsdtar was that way forrrreeeeeeeevvvvvvvverrrrrr ago
[00:08] <|PuNKCaT|> trying to fix the errors by upgrading, because I don't want to lose the info on the drive
[00:08] <|PuNKCaT|> was cloned from the failing drive via clonezilla
[00:08] <|PuNKCaT|> but seems like the original was corrupted by that time :/
[00:08] <sydney> |PuNKCaT|: I dont have any experience,but i have heard it can take like 2 days to upgrade :-/
[00:08] <testing22> whitepowder: exellent, thanks for that info. i have a feeling that the lack of gzip is the way AmazonS3 is shipping that file, but i’ll ask the maintiners to confirm. for now i’ll just omit the z option. thanks a ton, again
[00:09] <|PuNKCaT|> holey fark, ok
[00:09] <daftykins> sydney: that's rubbish
[00:09] <daftykins> |PuNKCaT|: you should just clean install 14.04 to the new drive, then restore the /home by itself
[00:09] <sydney> daftykins: I didnt say it was true,thats just what ive heard. ;)
[00:09] <daftykins> !fud
[00:09] <ryan123> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7687822/
[00:10] <ryan123> daftykins: How's that, now will you please help me
[00:10] <|PuNKCaT|> how would I do that without losing everything on the err, what's it even called /documents
[00:10] <sydney> daftykins: :P I know,and didnt meat to. ;D
[00:10] <sydney> |Pumean*
[00:10] <sydney> oops!!
[00:10] <whitepowder> testing22: you're welcome. good luck
[00:10] <sydney> mean*
[00:11] <daftykins> ryan123: what version is this?
[00:11] <sydney> |PuNKCaT|: just wait,and see how long it takes to finish,bufore you do anything else. :D
[00:11] <|PuNKCaT|> alrightly
[00:11] <whitepowder> fwiw, i've *NEVER* seen an upgrade take over a day (and that was on a very slow connection)
[00:11] <ryan123> daftykins: 12.10
[00:12] <whitepowder> You might want to check dmesg from a console, just to see if theres disk io errors
[00:12] <daftykins> !eol | ryan123 i had a feeling that was the case
[00:12] <|PuNKCaT|> it's on a really old p4, and the net connection here is pretty shit
[00:12] <daftykins> ryan123: your version is outdated and can no longer be used or supported
[00:12] <daftykins> s/can/should/
[00:13] <daftykins> |PuNKCaT|: family friendly channel, careful on the language please
[00:13] <|PuNKCaT|> oh, sorry
[00:13] <ryan123> So i can't install Vuze or OpenJDK
[00:13] <daftykins> ryan123: you shouldn't carry on using that system at all until you upgrade to a supported release
[00:13] <|PuNKCaT|> whelp, I'll see how it goes, thanks anyway
[00:14] <ryan123> daftykins: WHATS THE LASTEST SUPPORT UBUNTU THEN
[00:14] <gr33n7007h> Currently supported: 10.04 LTS (server) 12.04 LTS,  13.10, and 14.04 LTS
[00:14] <k1l> ryan123: you should not be running 12.10 anymore. update to 14.04, that is a LTS release
[00:14] <whitepowder> ryan123: 12.04 and 14.04 are both LTS releases
[00:15] <testing22> ryan123: LTS
[00:15] <daftykins> ryan123: please don't use caps.
[00:15] <ryan123> k1l: shh
[00:15] <ryan123> whitepowder: shh
[00:15] <ryan123> testing22: shh
[00:15] <ryan123> daftykins: EH?
[00:16] <daftykins> ok, i'm done with your timewasting. you have your answer, goodbye
[00:16] <k1l> ryan123: please watch your attitude in here. this is a support channel run by volunteers and you are running a EOL ubuntu. dont blame us for that
[00:17] <whitepowder> Any suggestions? I've got a usb stick with syslinux, freedos, grub4dos, and my preseed configuration. I'd like to be able to install and maybe run a live system off this disk. It's in 2 partitions, one fat16 the other btrfs (can change to ext[234]) and i want to be able to either put an iso and some debs or put a pile of debs onto it. How to make this work?
[00:17] <daftykins> whitepowder: can't you just back it up and wipe it?
[00:18] <ki7mt> well., 10.04 server is still valid also, until next year I think
[00:18] <daftykins> you're kinda just making the task more difficult by artificially imposed restrictions
[00:18] <whitepowder>  daftykins: i'm trying to pretty much make a recovery disk here. Something that can install a (mostly) preconfigured system
[00:18] <daftykins> ki7mt: that was mentioned.
[00:18] <whitepowder> In fact, lets throw away the entire live thing, i'll deal with that later
[00:19] <daftykins> seems a bit beyond the scope of ubuntu support to try and make your own respin
[00:19] <ki7mt> lol .. ok, screen too small, scrollin by way to fast here. Channel topic says it all: Currently supported: 10.04 LTS (server) 12.04 LTS,  13.10, and 14.04 LTS
[00:19] <daftykins> whitepowder: you know install media has an 'OEM install' function built in? not sure if that's relevant to you
[00:19] <ki7mt> I suppose 13.10 is dead next month though
[00:19] <testing22> i thought 13 was already dead
[00:19] <daftykins> it sure is! *hums Queen - Another One Bites the Dust*
[00:20] <ki7mt> I believe it goes out in July
[00:20] <daftykins> 13.04 is EOL yes, but 13.10 next month
[00:20] <whitepowder> daftykins: basically preseed is what im going after, i can put my own deb's onto the disk and then all will be good
[00:20] <daftykins> yeah that's beyond the scope of support then imo
[00:21] <ki7mt> there's allot of folks that know / use preseed, gneral support for it probably best asked in -devel, motu or maybe even server
[00:22] <ki7mt> as they deal with that allot more than general users do.
[00:23] <testing22> whitepowder: that did the trick — it was a command in a puppet manifest, all services are back up and working now thanks to you
[00:23] <whitepowder> ki7mt: Thanks
[00:31] <Izaya> Question with setting desktop wallpaper
[00:31] <Izaya> I select an image, rclick, set as wallpaper - but it doesn't show it as my background
[00:31] <Izaya> any idea what's going on?>
[00:32] <Izaya> "The Image ____________ has been set as Desktop Background. Would you like to modify its appearance?
[00:32] <Izaya> yet nothing changes.
[00:35] <hunt> can anyone get Natural Selection 2 to work with the latest fglrx?
[00:35] <hunt> i just get a black screen forever
[00:37] <hunt> i just bought NS2
[00:38] <daftykins> is it a Linux game?
[00:39] <SchrodingersScat> daftykins: it's linux native on steam
[00:40] <daftykins> SchrodingersScat: good good, wasn't gonna touch another situation with a barge pole
[00:41] <gr33n7007h> Izaya, Try: "gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background picture-uri file:///path/to/image.jpg"
[00:42] <Izaya> thans green!
[00:43] <Izaya> thanks gr33n7007h !
[00:43] <gr33n7007h> Izaya, np
[00:45] <hunt> Yea its a linux game
[00:46] <hunt> also their support email doesnt exist :(
[00:46] <yigal> I want to open all ports, for test, using UFW, what command can I use to do this?
[00:46] <daftykins> i think there's an #ubuntu-steam
[00:46] <yigal> s/test/&ing
[00:46] <daftykins> yigal: "sudo iptables -F" then "sudo iptables -X" (may need to install iptables, not sure)
[00:47] <maxvi> did use anybody i3 tile manager inside unity ?
[00:47] <yigal> daftykins: no, that makes sense just flush it all
[00:47] <yigal> daftykins: good call
[00:47] <daftykins> *nod*
[00:47] <oneof3> hello. when i choose reboot it wont. It kind of just shuts down and goes black then tried to reboot. Any idea what the issue is?
[00:48] <oneof3> so i have to hard shutdown and then it boots normally*
[00:53] <AleksejsM> Hi
[00:53] <daftykins> hello
[00:56] <AleksejsM> I have a problem with network-manager after release-upgrade and as the result, my system doesn't work at all
[00:56] <daftykins> AleksejsM: won't even boot?
[00:58] <AleksejsM> It all started with release-upgrade. After I did it, wireless stopped working. I found a solution for my wireless adapter on askubuntu, but after I did those steps, system stopped working
[00:58] <daftykins> so what are you left with now, does it boot? does it reach the desktop?
[00:58] <AleksejsM> It boots right till DE starts, and then it just hangs
[00:59] <daftykins> can you cable it in to your router direct to finish the upgrade?
[00:59] <AleksejsM> It asks for passwors then boots configuration and thats all
[00:59] <tb01110100> does curl come with ubuntu?
[00:59] <daftykins> "boots configuration" ?
[01:00] <AleksejsM> I mean loads my config, session etc
[01:00] <ianorlin> curl is in repos but not in default install
[01:00] <AleksejsM> But then it hangs
[01:00] <daftykins> AleksejsM: so can you cable in and finish the upgrade?
[01:01] <AleksejsM> Upgrade is finished
[01:01] <daftykins> AleksejsM: what version is it on now?
[01:02] <AleksejsM> I guess 13.10 but cant check
[01:02] <daftykins> hit ctrl+alt+F1 then login
[01:02] <daftykins> then run "cat /etc/issue"
[01:02] <AleksejsM> Cant
[01:02] <daftykins> can't what
[01:03] <AleksejsM> I press ctrl+alt+f# and it hangs
[01:03] <daftykins> sounds like your machine is toast, do you have a liveCD handy?
[01:04] <AleksejsM> No
[01:04] <daftykins> can you make one?
[01:04] <AleksejsM> Ok, after some 100th restart I got to cli
[01:05] <AleksejsM> 13.10
[01:05] <daftykins> AleksejsM: what does 'sudo apt-get -f install' show?
[01:07] <AleksejsM> Nothing, it seems like it waits for connection
[01:07] <daftykins> ah you're not online, yes i forgot that already, doh
[01:07] <daftykins> soo... can you connect into your router with a network cable?
[01:08] <AleksejsM> I tried
[01:08] <AleksejsM> But even ifconfig gives nothing
[01:08] <daftykins> that's ok, you do get eth0 though right?
[01:09] <AleksejsM> No
[01:09] <daftykins> wat
[01:09] <daftykins> "ifconfig -a"
[01:09] <AleksejsM> It hangs, and ^C does not help
[01:10] <daftykins> :S
[01:10] <daftykins> do you have much user data to backup? that system seems hosed
[01:10] <AleksejsM> Can I remove that network-manager somehow?
[01:10] <Sunstream> I don't know how I got Unity to work on 512 megs but I did
[01:11] <daftykins> AleksejsM: that's not what's at fault, NM is always there
[01:11] <daftykins> AleksejsM: it's backup, download 14.04 and clean install time
[01:11] <Sunstream> It did however rear its ugly head of slowness with browsing and trying to play dvds
[01:11] <AleksejsM> Wait
[01:12] <Sunstream> lubuntu allows me to do this
[01:12] <AleksejsM> After some 3 minutes ifconfig showed one line
[01:13] <daftykins> O_O
[01:13] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Unity takes a fare amount of resource aka-RAM to run properly, 512MB means your probably caching to the HD a fare amount.
[01:13] <Sunstream> If anyone has speed issues and have less than a gig of ram do not run Unity get another enviorment starting with lubuntu. lubuntu is good for those who transistioned from windows, or has low specs. :) In my opinion I should of installed this :)
[01:13] <Sunstream> yep
[01:13] <AleksejsM> Bridge firewalling registered
[01:13]  * Fall is using XFCE
[01:13] <daftykins> Sunstream: support questions only thanks
[01:14] <Sunstream> That was the case but its fixed now
[01:14] <AleksejsM> And gui started :-D
[01:15] <AleksejsM> But not completely
[01:16] <daftykins> AleksejsM: sounds like it's being heavily loaded
[01:17] <AleksejsM> Yes, but why?
[01:17] <daftykins> AleksejsM: broken stuff during upgrade :)
[01:18] <daftykins> AleksejsM: i'd run some commands to see what's taxing it, but judging by how long things are taking so far you'd have to get back to me with an answer in October
[01:18] <AleksejsM> :-D
[01:18] <AleksejsM> I managed to open package manager
[01:18] <Sunstream> !offtopic
[01:20] <lkthomas> hey guys, how could I make a bash script run everytime it boots up ?
[01:21] <ki7mt> lkthomas, with up-start: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpstartHowto
[01:21] <Sunstream> Okay I joined the off topic since making comments here are not always welcomed
[01:21] <AleksejsM> daftykins: it seems that everything that's not related to network, works pretty fast
[01:21] <ki7mt> lkthomas, more info: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[01:22] <daftykins> AleksejsM: open a terminal and run "top" and see what keeps hitting the top
[01:23] <AleksejsM> And net manager widget shows "NetworkManager 0.9.8 required, found ."
[01:24] <lkthomas> ki7mt: I need it run the very first time only
[01:24] <AleksejsM> firefox, some virtuoso-t and nepomukfileindexer are on top
[01:25] <AleksejsM> What's ther virtuoso-t?
[01:25] <ki7mt> lkthomas, you said every time it boots, now only the first time, probably best to just run it manually then, one time.
[01:26] <daftykins> AleksejsM: can you tell me what "cat /etc/issue" from a terminal shows?
[01:26] <lkthomas> ki7mt: is it possible to automate it ?
[01:27] <ki7mt> lkthomas, sure, just depends on what the script it doing.
[01:27] <AleksejsM> daftykins: ubuntu 13.10 \n \1
[01:27] <daftykins> oh yeah you said earlier
[01:27] <lkthomas> ki7mt: maybe I manually link the script to /etc/rc1.d ? it helps to config bootstrap to do next step
[01:28] <daftykins> AleksejsM: hmm, oh well it's too late for me now... you'll need to pass on what we've learnt so far to someone else for assistance - but i'd really just nuke it from orbit with a clean install after backing up my data.
[01:28] <ki7mt> lkthomas, I'd still make it an upstart job, then in the script, test if run before, if $? = 0, then exit 0, else, do something
[01:30] <ki7mt> lkthomas, in orther words, make the cript to the teting work, and use upstart to trigger it to test.
[01:30] <ki7mt> .. make the script do the testing work .. ..
[01:32] <guest0292> <<Using Lubuntu 13.10.  I bought a usb wifi dongle with rt 7601 chipset.  Problem:  I have no driver and can't compile it as I can't connect to the internet to download the compilers.  Is there an installer package for gcc/build essentials that I can download using another PC and copy to my ubuntu pc to compile the wifi driver??
[01:32] <GooglePlay> hello to all, i`m beginner on linux, and i have a little problem with a app, can i ask here? or exist a specific channel for help
[01:33] <Seven_Six_Two> GooglePlay, yes, you can ask here.
[01:34] <GooglePlay> ok, thanks u. i installed VLC media player, and i found on a website a plugin for automatly search the subtitles for the movie, i follow that steps, and now the VLC isn`t open anymore
[01:35] <Seven_Six_Two> guest0292, you can set up a mirror of the repositories with apt-mirror
[01:36] <Seven_Six_Two> GooglePlay, "isn't open", or "doesn't open"?
[01:36] <guest0292> ah ok. So I can use lubuntu 13.04 to download from the ubuntu 13.10 repos and get the build essentials?
[01:36] <daftykins> that's a ridiculous solution
[01:37] <GooglePlay> doesn`t open. sorry for my bad englesh
[01:37] <daftykins> guest0292: you can grab the deb's yourself, sure
[01:38] <guest0292> ok, hoping to download them automatically, as there might be a lot to download individually to compile the wifi kernel driver. :- )
[01:38] <daftykins> yeah i think your approach is flawed to be honest
[01:38] <daftykins> does this system not have wired networking?
[01:39] <guest0292> no wired.. just wifi tethering to my 3g phone
[01:39] <daftykins> eww, can you go somewhere with wired temporarily/
[01:40] <guest0292> well it's a desktop PC so i can't really move it elsewhere.   I need to use my other notebook that connects to 3g to download the build essentials for the desktop PC
[01:40] <GooglePlay> what can i do to open it again ?
[01:40] <robotdevil> !vmware
[01:40] <Seven_Six_Two> that's why I suggested apt-mirror. there is another way, but I haven't found it yet. http://askubuntu.com/questions/974/how-can-i-install-software-or-packages-without-internet-offline
[01:40] <Sunstream> daftykins, I am sorry I made comments here I am in offtopic now
[01:41] <daftykins> Sunstream: ok, lets pretend it never happened ;)
[01:41] <robotdevil> is there any "good" usb 3 support in vm's
[01:41] <Sunstream> I will hang here if I do have a question
[01:41] <Seven_Six_Two> sorry GooglePlay. vlc should be in your app menu. If you're using unity, click the dash and type "vlc", the icon should appear.
[01:41] <Sunstream> I am glad that the people here saved me from running Unity on 512 megs
[01:42] <Seven_Six_Two> GooglePlay, or open a terminal, type "vlc" and hit enter.
[01:42] <daftykins> Sunstream: can you stop rambling now please, i warned you already
[01:42] <GooglePlay> george@Geo:~$ vlc
[01:42] <GooglePlay> VLC media player 2.1.4 Rincewind (revision 2.1.4-0-g2a072be)
[01:42] <GooglePlay> vlc: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libvlc.so.5: undefined symbol: pl_Get
[01:43] <GooglePlay> and nothing
[01:43] <Seven_Six_Two> !keryx
[01:44] <Seven_Six_Two> GooglePlay, are you using virtualbox?
[01:45] <GooglePlay> no, i just installed Ubuntu 14.04
[01:45] <Sivik> anyone have any luck installing g15daemon on ubuntu trusty?
[01:45] <ProfessorKaos64> How can I add a program to Startup Applications via the command line"
[01:45] <ProfessorKaos64> ?
[01:45] <Sivik> ProfessorKaos64, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[01:45] <Sivik> check that
[01:45] <ProfessorKaos64> awesome, thanks
[01:46] <Seven_Six_Two> GooglePlay, it's a bug in libtar. a fix exists but may not be backported.
[01:46] <Seven_Six_Two> GooglePlay, try this in terminal            vlc --reset-config
[01:46] <ProfessorKaos64> Sivik, I saw that, but I didn't see CLI methods
[01:47] <ProfessorKaos64> on some distros I put things in /etc/xdg/autostart, but that doesn't work
[01:49] <Seven_Six_Two> ProfessorKaos64,     sudo update-rc.d servicename defaults
[01:49] <Sivik> what xwindow session manager?
[01:50] <ProfessorKaos64> Do you mean unity?
[01:50] <GooglePlay> i get the same error
[01:50] <ProfessorKaos64> lightdm I think is the default in 14.04
[01:50] <Sivik> Yea, thats unity
[01:50] <Sivik> ProfessorKaos64, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1767979
[01:50] <Sivik> check that
[01:52] <ProfessorKaos64> I think ' ~/.config/autostart/' is where I need to place it
[01:52] <ProfessorKaos64> let me try that, thx
[01:52] <Sivik> http://askubuntu.com/questions/178567/how-to-add-a-program-as-startup-application-from-terminal that might help tooo
[01:53] <AleksejsM> Any idea how to repair that network-manager?
[01:53] <Sivik> try removing and re-install it AleksejsM
[01:53] <Sivik> !libg15daemon
[01:53] <ProfessorKaos64> Seven_Six_Two, Thanks, but its not an init.d service
[01:53] <ProfessorKaos64> And I really don't want to make one, so a desktop entry will do fine
[01:54] <ProfessorKaos64> .confg/autostart worked fine Sivik , thank you
[01:54] <Sivik> yw ProfessorKaos64
[01:54] <Sivik> !g15daemon
[01:54] <GooglePlay> Seven_Six_Two,  in this case what can i do to run the VLC ?
[01:57] <banister> how do i find out what a given process (gives its process id) is using for stdin/stdout?
[01:58] <Guest50543> hi, sorry for my english. Who Knows same site to view movie with english subtitles to learn lenguage?
[02:00] <ki7mt> banister, use somethign like ps -aux |grep <process-name> or use pstree to see all active process in a tree format
[02:02] <AleksejsM> I removed network-manager, but how do I install it now? I don't have a connection, and package cannot be downloaded
[02:03] <Beldar> AleksejsM, Probably a live cd and set the software sources to read the cd and do an update.
[02:04] <Beldar> AleksejsM, Or chroot from a live and install might work.
[02:05] <psusi> Beldar, live cds' aren't software sources
[02:06] <psusi> AleksejsM, assuming you use dhcp, run sudo dhclient to get an address and configure the network interface
[02:06] <Beldar> psusi, Ah, thought the nm might be on there.
[02:08] <Beldar> psusi, I had that backwards, I have used the live to get to the repos, my mistake..
[02:09] <josefig> If I downloaded in mbox format my backup how can I convert it to dovecot in order to see it in my new email server?
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i just want to understand how xubuntu xfce themes or accepts gtk themes, I like using black themes, but i cannot stand that the text is white on gray when using leafpad and applications like android sdk, what can i do to fix themes? perhaps change individual text colors or background colors, but not affect the general theme
[02:13] <Psil0Cybin> the problem is i like the darker colored themes
[02:18] <AleksejsM> psusi: it hangs
[02:18] <AleksejsM> I think the reason is with drivers
[02:18] <AleksejsM> After release-upgrade my wifi didn't work and I tried to fix it with this manual http://askubuntu.com/questions/419867/qualcomm-atheros-ar9485-wireless-network-adapter-not-working-on-ubuntu-13-10
[02:18] <AleksejsM> After that, everything related to network just hangs, and there's no even cable connection
[02:21] <whitepowder> So apparently my problem comes from the fact that 12.04 gets updated to 12.04.4 which uses 3.11.x kernel and i *have* to stay on 3.2.x or earlier. fml
[02:22] <whitepowder> is it possible to install 12.04.4 but use an older kernel (3.2.x)?
[02:28] <AleksejsM>  hmm, I guess something isnt right with my interfaces file. It has only 2 lines:
[02:29] <AleksejsM> auto lo
[02:29] <AleksejsM> iface lo inet loopback
[02:30] <AleksejsM> Can this be a reason?
[02:30] <ki7mt> whitepowder, yes, download the headers and image for the kernel you want, dpkg -i linux-* then set Grub2 default to either -1 or default to the kernel you'd like to boot.
[02:31] <gRIMwORLD> AleksejsM, reason for what?
[02:31] <gRIMwORLD> sorry just joined
[02:32] <AleksejsM> For network not working
[02:32] <ki7mt> whitepowder, you'll want to pick from the precise branches form here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[02:33] <AleksejsM> But I also just noticed that when I launch anything with sudo, it just hangs and nothing happens
[02:33] <AleksejsM> And cant even be killed by ^C
[02:34] <gRIMwORLD> lspci - check if you see eth0
[02:34] <gRIMwORLD> are you cable connected?
[02:34] <thisisatest> .
[02:35] <thisisatest> ryanjacobs:.
[02:35] <AleksejsM> Lspci shows both eth and wifi
[02:37] <AleksejsM> It's interesting: Iaunch vim, it works, I launch sudo vim, it opened after minute
[02:38] <AleksejsM> What can cause this?
[02:39] <gRIMwORLD> is it a new install?
[02:39] <AleksejsM> No, after release-upgrade
[02:41] <gRIMwORLD> is the cpu usage high
[02:51] <la> hola
[02:51] <la> ou
[02:52] <alumno__> hola quien  habla
[02:52] <alumno__> toy aburri
[02:54] <Beldar> mmmm two nicks same ip and esperanza
[02:56] <ryanjacobs> Beldar: sorry about that, I guess #ubuntu opens automaticly on my irc. I was on #test
[03:15] <_1_McVidal2> Hola Amores
[03:16] <Beldar> _1_McVidal2, English?
[03:17] <Beldar> _1_McVidal2, no bots please
[03:20] <lnb_> 14.04 on my asus notebook does one thing, kick me off. Installed 14.04 on one of our new inux mini desktops, works perfectly. There must be issues with the g3force m425 video chip
[03:22] <Beldar> lnb_, I see nothing on line on the  g3force m425  maybe a clearer description might help.
[03:23] <lnb_> hi Beldar
[03:23] <lnb_> i can only tell you, after installing 14.04, it kicks me out .. back to login
[03:23] <Beldar> lnb_, Hi, when are you kicked off, the desktop right?
[03:24] <lnb_> once in a while see a screen about nouveau cant do certain things.. i forgot exactly what though
[03:24] <lnb_> i know, not much help
[03:24] <Beldar> lnb_, At the login hit ctrl-alt-f1 to a tty and login and then go to the desktop and see if you get there,
[03:25] <lnb_> i can't now because i reinstalled 12.04 which works perfectly out-of-the-box
[03:25] <Beldar> lnb_, Ah well that fixes it than for now.
[03:25] <lnb_> i really wanted to say that our inux mini desktops and 14.04 are picture perfect
[03:26] <lnb_> Beldar: it does, but anyone else that has the same asus notebook will have the same problems
[03:39] <AleksejsM> Can anyone show me how /etc/resolv.conf should look like?
[03:40] <Beldar> lnb_, I would not attach your issue to anyone else, as I said I see nothing on the web including askubuntu on this, if there was a problem we would see something.
[03:41] <lnb_> Beldar: i will get the model number and then you can see
[03:42] <Beldar> lnb_, Just gonna say it is not my job to have you think critically that is your issue. ;)
[03:42] <Iko_> Do I really need a swap partition?
[03:43] <lnb_> Iko_: dont do without one :)
[03:43] <Iko_> I have 4 gb ram, and somewhat less data intensive programs
[03:43] <sydney> Iko_: You need one. :D
[03:43] <lnb_> Iko_: set a 2gb sway
[03:43] <lnb_> swap
[03:43] <Beldar> Iko_, Some do not with enough ram, but if you want to hibernate it's needed, some would argue it's needed, your choice really.
[03:44] <AcidRain> what would cause a filesystem to get unmounted then mounted in readonly mode?
[03:44] <Iko_> My main problem is that I need a primary partition
[03:44] <zerowaitstate> even if you hardly ever swap, you create problems by not having a swap partition. You can prevent stuff from going to swap by adjusting the "swapiness" of the kernel
[03:44] <sydney> Its backup in case you run out of ram too  :D
[03:44] <Beldar> Iko_, Take a screen shot of gparted and post an image of it.
[03:44] <Iko_> Currently I have 1 Ubuntu, 2x windows (one for system restore and stuff) and one for swap
[03:45] <sydney> Iko_: So whats the problem exactly?
[03:46] <Iko_> sydney: I'm trying to install OpenBSD (need it for a project), but it needs a primary partition
[03:46] <Iko_> Beldar: Here's a op from fdisk -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7688484/
[03:47] <gambol> guys, anyone know if there's some app/package will enable ip_forward by default?
[03:48] <gambol> I have a 14.04, seeing the ip_forward is 1 but I believe I never changed it manually.
[03:48] <Beldar> Iko_, YOU have the max primaries you can have with an extended now the swap sda1?
[03:48] <gambol> #ubuntu-server
[03:48] <Beldar> it's sda5
[03:48] <whitepowder> Success! Crap that was easier than i thought.. just cp'd files out of the iso onto the fat16 partition. Could i copy the pool and dists from amd64 and i386 isos into the same place? that way i can just detect 32/64bit in the syslinux config and boot the right kernel and go?
[03:48] <Iko_> Beldar: Yes, the sda4 was my swap
[03:49] <Beldar> Iko_, sda4 is the extended
[03:49] <Iko_> Beldar: Yep, so split sda4 into sda5 and sda6
[03:49] <linuxuz3r> what do they mean by load in the activity monitor
[03:49] <Iko_> I was trying to install on sda5
[03:49] <Iko_> Beldar: But it's not recognized
[03:50] <Beldar> Iko_, You can't split a extended, and you can't add another primary with an extended there now.
[03:50] <sydney> afk,goodnight!!
[03:51] <Beldar> Iko_, You could move the sda1 to the extended with a clone...etc, or another HD.
[03:51] <Beldar> and mkae the sda1 the bsd partiton
[03:51] <Beldar> lotta resizing though Iko_
[03:51] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: it's a better measure of CPU utilization that CPU%
[03:52] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: basically, in addition to how much CPU you're using, it also measures how much is queued to run but can't due to CPU being maxed out
[03:52] <Iko_> Beldar: Hmm.. I was thinking of deleting sda4 and installing it there
[03:52] <Iko_> Beldar: But that would remove my swap
[03:53] <kabuki> hello
[03:53] <Beldar> Iko_, you can't delete sda4 unless you remove sda5 and sda6 sda4 is an extended a container for the other two which are logicals,
[03:54] <Iko_> Beldar: Exactally, so if I delete sda4 (which would remove sda5 &6), I would have no swap
[03:54] <Iko_> Beldar: My swap is sda4
[03:54] <Iko_> Beldar: My swap is _sda5_
[03:54] <kabuki> peace
[03:54] <zerowaitstate> Iko_: I'm starting to think you're probably going to have more luck running OpenBSD in a virtualbox
[03:55] <Beldar> Iko_, right and only room for one primary, I would move the sda1 to the sda4 extended, by resizing the two ntfs and make sda1 the bsd, you would still have the sda5 and sda6
[03:56] <Beldar> a vm might be better as suggested
[03:56] <erm3nda> Hi all
[03:56] <erm3nda> Q: Im facing problems to connect to a game server, but i can access webserver tcp 80 port... do not figure out what to test or where to look.
[03:56] <Iko_> zerowaitstate: Well, bsd needs VTX, and my hardware is rather outdated
[03:57] <Beldar> Iko_, What we are missing is the functionality of any of the partitions, there may be more that can be done.
[03:57] <Iko_> Beldar: I'll try moving sda1 to extended, I guess.. Thanks!
[03:58] <zerowaitstate> Iko_: that looks like your only option
[03:58] <Beldar> Iko_, Do what you need to. ;)
[03:59] <Beldar> don't delete sda1 just remake the partition as needed
[04:00] <Beldar> keep the partitions going up numerically from the front of the dsic as well. Iko_
[04:00] <Beldar> disc*
[04:00] <jeff__> hey all
[04:01] <Beldar> yoh, ho, ho
[04:04] <whitepowder> Hmm. About halfway where i want this usb stick to be. Ubuntu installs automatically besides disk selection and password entry, but it seems theres a dists/precise/binary-i386 directory in the amd64 alternate iso too? Should i just overwrite that with the stuff from the i386 alternative?
[04:12] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i just want to understand how xubuntu xfce themes or accepts gtk themes, I like using black themes, but i cannot stand that the text is white on gray when using leafpad and applications like android sdk, what can i do to fix themes? perhaps change individual text colors or background colors, but not affect the general theme
[04:18] <tortib> Hello I'm trying to configure vsftp with TLS/SSL and I'm having a problem.  The client keeps giving an error 157 "Invalid reply from server" I checked the logs for vsftp but there isn't anything but a connection message showing that the user logged in.  Here is my config http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?167544
[04:22] <homeserver> hello
[04:25] <villandra> If my 32 gig computer has 4 gigs of RAM, what size swap file should I make?
[04:25] <Fall> :o
[04:26] <Beldar> villandra, Do you want to hibernate? only 32 gigs in all?
[04:26] <villandra> Trying this again.   LOL!   My 32 bit computer has 4 gigs of RAM.  What size should I make the swap file?
[04:27] <Beldar> villandra, Do you want to hibernate?
[04:27] <villandra> Why would I want to hibernate.  I want to know what size to make the swap file.
[04:28] <Beldar> villandra, It takes a equal or larger swap to the ram to hibernate, just getting the context.
[04:28] <Beldar> simple but important question if you want a good answer
[04:29] <Beldar> generally swap is just slightly larger than the ram
[04:31] <tortib> Can anyone help me with my problem
[04:31] <Ethos>  your question?
[04:34] <pavlos> villandra, some rule is 1.5 times memory
[04:34] <tortib> Hello I'm trying to configure vsftp with TLS/SSL and I'm having a problem.  The client keeps giving an error 157 "Invalid reply from server" I checked the logs for vsftp but there isn't anything but a connection message showing that the user logged in.  Here is my config http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?167544
[04:39] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i have a big problem using my xubutnu 12.04 desktop and what happens is everytime i am in the middle of a project the computer cold freezes, no keys work nothing and it happens only ironically when i am doing something important so it does not always happen i ran a memory test and everything is fine but this randomly will happen,  is there somthing i can do to diagnose because it is a cold freeze i do not find anything in logs
[04:42] <villandra> 32 bit computer, 4 gigs of RAM.   I understand swap size must be 1.5 to 2 times the RAM - but not more than 2 gigs?   You'll have to clarify what hibernating has to do with it.
[04:43] <villandra> Oh.   No, I don't hibernate my computer.
[04:43] <villandra> I thought you thought I must be hibernating if my computer is 32 gigs.
[04:43] <Beldar> villandra, Thank you a no was all that was needed, equal or slightly larger than ram is fine fir normal use
[04:43] <Beldar> for*
[04:44] <villandra> So 4 gigs swap file will do it.
[04:44] <Ethos> Is New Jersey a state?
[04:44] <villandra> Last time I heard, New Jersey is a borough of New York City.
[04:44] <cfhowlett> Ethos you're in the wrong channel
[04:44] <Ethos> I mean is the Ubuntu help center
[04:44] <Ethos> in NJ
[04:44] <Beldar> villandra, Iwould go like 4.25 or so
[04:44] <cfhowlett> Ethos no
[04:44] <villandra> OK, thanks!
[04:45] <Beldar> np
[04:49] <Loshki> Psil0Cybin: It's generally hardware. Overheating (look, poke & prod), PSU issue (measure), bad RAM (run an overnight memtest)...
[04:50] <Ethos> I'm on Ubuntu 14.04 desktop, is there way I can check the temperature of the cpu, on gui gnome
[04:51] <Guest47935> hello
[04:51] <cfhowlett> !sensors|ethos
[04:51] <linuxuz3r> Ethos, try psensor
[04:51] <Beldar> Ethos, Unity desktop or the gnome shell or the fallback
[04:52] <robotdevil> why is usb 3 so much of an issue with visualization?
[04:53] <robotdevil> especially since some devices only have usb3 ports
[04:53] <Beldar> !details | robotdevil
[04:53]  * robotdevil scratches head
[04:54] <linuxuz3r> robotdevil, visualization or virtualization
[04:55] <robotdevil> #2 auto correct lol
[04:57] <robotdevil> Beldar: WHAT VIRTUALIZATION SOLUTIONS HAVE GOOD USB3 SUPPORT! haha
[04:57] <cfhowlett> !vbox | robotdevil
[04:58] <robotdevil> I thought it didnt have it
[04:59] <cfhowlett> robotdevil best to ask in #vboox
[04:59] <cfhowlett> #vbox
[05:00] <robotdevil> looks like there is some oracle reason for not supporting it
[05:01] <holstein> not supporint USB? its supported in virtualbox
[05:02] <holstein> robotdevil: should still be similar to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/USB
[05:02] <cfhowlett> robotdevil perhaps INSTALL virtualbox and test it might be in order?
[05:03] <holstein> ^^ thats how i learned to implement USB
[05:03] <Fall> TIAS!~ :D
[05:04] <linuxuz3r> if you have a default route and a primary dns why do you need a subnet mask for?
[05:04] <linuxuz3r> i have a subnet mask in my wlan
[05:04] <linuxuz3r> <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:04] <linuxuz3r> i forgot what class it is
[05:04] <linuxuz3r> i think its class c
[05:04] <robotdevil> cfhowlett: I have
[05:04] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: yes, a /24 is class C
[05:05] <holstein> linuxuz3r: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_subnetting_reference probably has all you need.
[05:05] <robotdevil> cfhowlett: thought maybe you were implying I missed something
[05:06] <cfhowlett> robotdevil my error.  I missed that you had indeed field-tested this issue.
[05:06] <holstein> robotdevil: if you are saying "there is an oracle reason for not supporting/providing USB", then you are missing something.. it *is* supported
[05:06] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: you need a subnet mask so that your comp can figure out whether to send a packet directory a machine on the local LAN, or send it to a router for forwarding
[05:06] <zerowaitstate> s/directory/directly
[05:07] <robotdevil> usb3
[05:07] <linuxuz3r> zerowaitstate, i thought it is for subnetworking several computers together
[05:07] <robotdevil> qemu seems mucked up as well
[05:08] <linuxuz3r> im dumb with network administration
[05:08] <linuxuz3r> sorry for my noobness
[05:08] <linuxuz3r> i forgot to connect computers together you need a switch
[05:09] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: it's hard to answer your question fully without getting into OSI model
[05:09] <holstein> robotdevil: vmware should support 3.0
[05:09] <linuxuz3r> but can you connect computers together using daisy chained nics
[05:09] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: yes
[05:09] <linuxuz3r> zerowaitstate, thats not ideal though right
[05:09] <linuxuz3r> thats my understanding of network
[05:10] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: depends on what you want to achieve. For 99.9% of people it is not ideal.
[05:10] <robotdevil> looks like vmware-player costs money now, but I could be mistaken
[05:10] <linuxuz3r> ok
[05:10] <villandra> Next question.  I want to install two Linux OS's (Ubuntu and Mint) and a data partition on a 300 gig hard drive.  I understand that to do that I have to install the Linux partitions manually.  I have to install 4 partitions per Linux OS.  I can install only 4 primary partitions and the rest must be logical partitions of an extended partition.   However I can make the first partition for each
[05:10] <villandra> Linux OS primary and the rest logical - or can I only do that if I'm putting just one Linux OS on the drive?   So I need to know how to set up these partitions.
[05:10] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: a book on Network+ will explain all that stuff
[05:10] <cfhowlett> !partition|villandra
[05:11] <Beldar> villandra, Neither linux needs a primary.
[05:12] <villandra> I did read up on partitioning but could only find instructions for one OS, not two, and definitely not two Linux.   Beldar, from what you are saying I can do three primaries for one system and all the rest logical partitions?
[05:12] <holstein> villandra: the rules apply, though. what you can do and what partitions can be created
[05:13] <villandra> Holstein, your sentence got chopped off.
[05:13] <linuxuz3r> villandra, you can use 3 or 4 primary partition after that if you need more partitkion you need to make it extended logical
[05:13] <Beldar> villandra, I would only use a primary for windows myself, any linux in logicals in  an extended. Really depends on what you have there now to some extent.
[05:13] <holstein> villandra: what did you miss?
[05:13] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: short answer, any host on a network needs to know its own subnet mask as well as its own address.
[05:14] <villandra> Beldar, I'm not installing Windows on this drive.  You're saying don't do ANY primary partitions?
[05:14] <Beldar> villandra, You can do all that install in an extended if you want.
[05:15] <Beldar> more partition numerically in an extended is all
[05:15] <villandra> So just have no primary partitions, one extended partition, with nine logical partitions for the 2 Linux installations and the data partition.
[05:15] <Beldar> partitions
[05:15] <Beldar> villandra, Sure, I am curious as to why 4partitons each?
[05:16] <linuxuz3r> zerowaitstate, you said that it tells the network to forward the packet or route it to different one right
[05:16] <linuxuz3r> why is my windows machine and linux machine on the same subnet
[05:16] <villandra> Because that's what every set of instructions I read or viewed said.  Boot, root, swap and home.   Now, I think the one I viewed just had three of those.   Not sure if the boot section made itself.
[05:16] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: no, it tells the HOST to do that. The host makes the decision whether to send the packet to the router or not.
[05:17] <linuxuz3r> i kinda understand why we need a default route and primary dns
[05:17] <linuxuz3r> i dont understand the use of subnet
[05:17] <Beldar> villandra, Ah, no boot partition needed, and only one swap for both linux.
[05:17] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: that's because you don't know about layer 2 vs layer 3 networking
[05:17] <villandra> How do the two OS's know to use the one swap?
[05:18] <Ben64> linuxuz3r: ask in ##networking if you want to know more about subnets and things
[05:18] <linuxuz3r> Ben64, its down
[05:18] <Beldar> villandra, They mount it with fstab, this gonna be a lvm or encrypted?
[05:18] <linuxuz3r> well its quiet over there
[05:18] <Ben64> linuxuz3r: ##networking is not down...
[05:18] <villandra> It's not going to be encrypted.  What's lvm?
[05:19] <Beldar> villandra, Another form of encryption.
[05:19] <villandra> Subnet is a part of a network that you set up.  Whether two machines would be on the same subnet depends on how you set it up.  Usually if you only have two machines you wouldn't have two subnets.
[05:19] <Beldar> !lvm
[05:19] <Ben64> lvm is not only for encryption
[05:19] <Beldar> villandra, ^^^^
[05:19] <Beldar> Ben64, you are so right. ;)
[05:20] <villandra> No, I'm not doing any encryption.  This is for a home machine.
[05:20] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: two machines are on the same subnet if they do not have to cross a router to reach each other.
[05:20] <linuxuz3r> ok thats what im picturing in my head
[05:20] <linuxuz3r> lol
[05:20] <linuxuz3r> my mind even
[05:20] <villandra> LOL - you mean if there is not a router between the two networks!   If it's a home network they are going to go through a router!
[05:20]  * Beldar loves the greek chorus
[05:21] <zerowaitstate> villandra: your home router has a switch built into it.
[05:21] <linuxuz3r> can you do those layer 1 and layer 2 networking with just a simple wireless router
[05:21] <Dylan_> How do I encode an .ass subtitle file to a .mp4 video file in a fashion that both the video and the subtitles can successfully be uploaded to youtube?
[05:21] <linuxuz3r> or do you need a switch
[05:21] <villandra> That if they go through a router statement confused me when my MCITP teacher first said it.
[05:22] <villandra> Uh, right, Zero, I eventually realized that but I never think of it.
[05:22] <Beldar> villandra, Heh, I suspected some sort of class or assignment was involved in  some way here. ;)
[05:22] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: "wireless router" is a marketing term. In reality that box that is called a "wireless router" is multiple things: a router, a switch, and access point, a dhcp server, and a NAT firewall
[05:23] <linuxuz3r> zerowaitstate, you said i can learn it from a networking + book right
[05:23] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: that is a good start, yes
[05:23] <linuxuz3r> ok
[05:23] <zerowaitstate> CompTIA
[05:23] <linuxuz3r> ok cool
[05:23] <zerowaitstate> you need to learn OSI model
[05:23] <villandra> Was inuxuz3r asking if he can network wirelessly?
[05:23] <zerowaitstate> no
[05:24] <villandra> I wondered what linuxuz3r meant by layer 1 and layer 2 networking - thought perhaps he's talking about something else.
[05:24] <linuxuz3r> i heard of osi model but i really didnt absorb the info on the network programming book
[05:24] <Ben64> if you guys want to talk about networking more, please do it in ##networking ???
[05:24] <cfhowlett> Dylan_ avconv -i inputfilename outputfilename.mp4
[05:24] <zerowaitstate> lol, k
[05:24] <zerowaitstate> linuxuz3r: hop over there
[05:24] <linuxuz3r> sorry
[05:24] <villandra> Correct me if my memory is goofy, but I think the networking part is layer 3 and layer 4.
[05:24] <linuxuz3r> zerowaitstate, im fine
[05:25] <linuxuz3r> sorry Ben64
[05:25] <Dylan_> cfhowlett: inputfilename is the .ass file?
[05:25] <cfhowlett> Dylan_ correct
[05:25] <villandra> Ubottu, I'm not doing RAID either.
[05:26] <villandra> quit
[05:27] <Dylan_> cfhowlett: if this works you're getting a bouquet of roses and a box of chocolates.
[05:28] <Dylan_> Terminal gave me this:
[05:28] <Dylan_> Output file #0 does not contain any stream
[05:29] <newvirus> the network rules
[05:29] <Dylan_> cfhowlett: Any further advice?
[05:29] <Ben64> Dylan_: MP4Box would probably work for what you want
[05:30] <Dylan_> sudo apt-get install mp4box?
[05:30] <Dylan_> Nope.
[05:30] <Ben64> Dylan_: my system has the package as "gpac"
[05:31] <Dylan_> Found it. Downloading...
[05:31] <Ben64> Dylan_: warning - MP4Box has some of the most confusing syntax of anything I've ever used. Good luck
[05:32] <Dylan_> Crap. You're not going to hold my hand through it?
[05:32] <Dylan_> Does this thing have a GUI?
[05:32] <Ben64> nope, haven't ever tried adding subtitles to an mp4, just combined audio and video tracks into mp4, and that was hard enough
[05:32] <linuxuz3r> .sean zerowaitstate
[05:32] <linuxuz3r> .seen zerowaitstate
[05:32] <linuxuz3r> !seen zerowaitstate
[05:33] <linuxuz3r> ok
[05:33] <Dylan_> Balls!
[05:33] <Dylan_> I could never imagine how incredibly difficult it is to hardcode subtitles.
[05:33] <jmeyer> I'm trying to do 'chattr -i /etc/resolv.conf' but I get the error: "chattr: Operation not supported while reading flags on /etc/resolv.conf". I'm trying to change my DNS servers. Why wont this work?
[05:33] <Ben64> Dylan_: hardcode? i thought you wanted to add a subtitle track
[05:34] <Dylan_> Let me explain the situation.
[05:34] <Dylan_> I made a translation for a documentary.
[05:34] <Ben64> jmeyer: you don't want to edit that file
[05:34] <Dylan_> And I want to post it on youtube.
[05:35] <Dylan_> Youtube, for whatever reason, demands .srt files for subtitles if the video is going to be separate from the subtitles.
[05:35] <Ben64> Dylan_: ok?
[05:35] <Dylan_> .srt files don't contain the aesthetic modifications I need to make the subtitles useful.
[05:35] <Dylan_> So I made them with Aegisub into an .ass file.
[05:36] <Dylan_> Youtube spits on .ass files, I guess.
[05:36] <jmeyer> Ben64: I do want to edit it. I don't want to edit the bash scripts or the systemd or the networkmanager or anything else I want to edit the authority file for resolving dns
[05:36] <Dylan_> So I've read around and it appears if I "hardcode" the two files together, I can upload it as one file into youtube.
[05:36] <Dylan_> Now, I did this with a program called mkvmerge.
[05:36] <Dylan_> The subtitles worked beautifully on my computer.
[05:36] <Dylan_> But when I uploaded it to YT... they vanished.
[05:37] <ritesh> while restarting, I want to check through the logs for exception for verifying whether the application has started properly, but log formats are different for different application, so can anyone help me achieve this all in one script
[05:37] <Dylan_> So I'm trying to troubleshoot WHY that's the case an fix it.
[05:37] <jmeyer> Ben64: Can you help me?
[05:38] <Ben64> Dylan_: ok so you want to actually re-encode the video with the subs on it
[05:38] <linuxuz3r> wow linux is feature rich
[05:38] <linuxuz3r> network feature rich
[05:38] <linuxuz3r> lol cant imagine its free
[05:38] <Dylan_> Oo! New vocabulary! YES.
[05:38] <linuxuz3r> so now i will support it
[05:39] <Ben64> jmeyer: resolv.conf gets erased every boot, you don't want to edit it. it says so on the very first line
[05:39] <ritesh> can anyone here can help me ?
[05:39] <ritesh> i need help with my script
[05:39] <ritesh> its a bash script
[05:40] <jmeyer> Ben64: It just yells at me in all caps to not edit the file by hand. Anyways, if the file is immutable then how can some bumbling boot script touch it?
[05:40] <chenzen> hey guys i used to run sqldeveloper but now loading will be complete but it does not run wat should i do?
[05:42] <Ben64> jmeyer: check in /etc/resolvconf/ for the files you probably want to edit
[05:43] <Ben64> Dylan_: https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/HowToBurnSubtitlesIntoVideo
[05:44] <jmeyer> Ben64: There are a few files and an empty directory that make no sense to anyone except some greybeard tucked away in a pocket of the Debian project. How do I make /etc/resolv.conf immutable?
[05:44] <Ben64> jmeyer: stop worrying about /etc/resolv.conf
[05:45] <Ben64> jmeyer: create a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail and add whatever you want in the file there
[05:45] <jmeyer> Okay. I've stopped. How do I get my system to always, under all possible circumstances (excepting myself) use the DNS servers I define
[05:45] <linuxuz3r> im hesitant to update my ubuntu installation from previous experience of breaking it
[05:46] <linuxuz3r> where can i see the log files of updates for ubuntu
[05:46] <jmeyer> tail? you mean append. will my system add stuff to that when I restart and it does some dhcp config or networkmanager decides to take some intitiative I'd rather it not, Ben64?
[05:46] <linuxuz3r> i mean what they change and replaced not the installation log files
[05:47] <Ben64> jmeyer: you can configure it in your network manager if you prefer
[05:47] <jmeyer> No no no no. No. That wont do.
[05:47] <Dylan_> Ben64: How do I compile ffmpeg with --enable-libass?
[05:47] <Ben64> linuxuz3r: define "update"
[05:48] <linuxuz3r> there is a notification icon that says packages are available for an update. I dont know what features and additions they put on the update
[05:48] <linuxuz3r> thats the update i want to find out
[05:48] <jmeyer> Ben64: I did what you said with this tail thingy. When I restart will I see the IPs I put in there in resolv.conf?
[05:48] <Ben64> jmeyer: yep
[05:49] <Ben64> linuxuz3r: you should have an option to see the updates available
[05:50] <Sunstream> Okay, I do have a question, I want to set up my Terminal to act as a "shell" meaning I want to login
[05:50] <Sunstream> what do I do
[05:50] <linuxuz3r> ok
[05:51] <Ben64> Sunstream: huh?
[05:51] <Sunstream> I want to open my terminal with a screen that says login: and I have to put my username and password in
[05:51] <Sunstream> just for nostalgia mainly
[05:52] <Dylan_> Ben64: Sorry if you saw what I wrote before, but how do I enable libass? I just compiled it into ffmpeg.
[05:52] <Ben64> Dylan_: why would you need to compile it? does the package version not include it?
[05:53] <Sunstream> !description login
[05:53] <Dylan_> I dunno. I just did: sudo apt-get -y install libass-dev
[05:53] <jmeyer> Ben64: You lied. It prepended to resolve.conf a search domain and a localhost nameserver.
[05:53] <jmeyer> Ben64: I just restarted and saw this.
[05:53] <Dylan_> And something installed itself.
[05:54] <Ben64> Dylan_: well try ffmpeg to see if it works before jumping in to compile it
[05:54] <jmeyer> Does anyone here know how to chattr +i resolv.conf?
[05:54] <Dylan_> However, when I do the command to encode the subtitles, I get "No such filter: 'ass'"
[05:54] <Ben64> jmeyer: again, thats not what you want to do
[05:55] <jmeyer> Ben64: What I want to do is make my system obey me. How do I make it do so?
[05:55] <jmeyer> The last advice you gave me did not work.
[05:55] <Ben64> jmeyer: by doing things the proper way. pastebin the contents of /etc/resolv.conf
[05:56] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Does anyone know how to change the text format for terminal? example: http://i.imgur.com/XyqaREO.png  I know that application is for windows but i've some people with that terminal format
[05:57] <jmeyer> Before the nameservers I specified in /etc/resolveconf.d/tail or whatever, there are two entries (after the comments) which should not be there: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>\nsearch Belkin
[05:57] <jmeyer> Ben64: I just pasted that here. \n is aline break, don't you know
[05:58] <jmeyer> I don't want it searching for FQDNs or whatever, and I don't know how <IP_ADDRESS> got there at all. no such subnet exists on this network and that isn't loopback iirc but what the hell do i know about tcp/ip
[05:58] <Ben64> 127.* is loopback actually
[05:59] <jmeyer> Ah.
[05:59] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> another example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq2agqPoLes
[05:59] <suntopk> Okay I am testing ircii and it works
[06:00] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> MannerMan: I know you know
[06:00] <Sunstream> I wish I could set up a shell
[06:00] <Sunstream> on my pc
[06:00] <Ben64> GuyThatNeedsHelp: don't ping random people, be patient for an answer
[06:00] <Ben64> Sunstream: explain more what you want exactly
[06:01] <ressudesu> herroo. I'm looking for the scrolling function used in evince, is it gtk ? Anybody know where i can find it, can i use it with terminal applications ?
[06:01] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Ben64: No
[06:01] <Sunstream> Okay
[06:01] <Sunstream> You know how you telnet into a shell account somewhere and it says whatever login:
[06:02] <Ben64> Sunstream: ok, i'll pretend that people still use telnet for this example
[06:02] <Sunstream> I want to have an enviorment like that when I go into my terminal maybe I have to set up a shell program that will only allow me to onnect locally
[06:02] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Ben64 is mean
[06:02] <ressudesu> evince, gtk anyone? no ?
[06:02] <Sunstream> it is where I am to login each time I go to the command shell
[06:02] <Ben64> Sunstream: you want to login when you open a terminal from your desktop?
[06:03] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :ressudesu what do you mean?
[06:03] <ressudesu> The touchpad smooth scrolling used in evince
[06:03] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> what about it?
[06:03] <ressudesu> where can i find it
[06:04] <ressudesu> herro ?
[06:04] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :ressudesu Did you open a file with evince?
[06:04] <Dylan_> Ben64: When I use the command on the site you provided to re-encode the video, the terminal gives me "No such filter: 'ass'". How do I get this filter?
[06:04] <ressudesu> yes
[06:04] <ki7mt> Sunstream, what you trying to do?
[06:05] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :ressudesu And you dont see the scroll bar on the right?
[06:05] <Sunstream> just make some nostalgic setup for my commandline where I have to login using my user name and Pw
[06:05] <Ben64> Sunstream: but you're already logged into your desktop
[06:05] <ressudesu> omg, i just need the smooth scrolling input
[06:06] <ressudesu> not the scroll bar or any output
[06:06] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> arrow keys
[06:06] <Sunstream> I know that.
[06:06] <ki7mt> Sunstream, from your windows machine to Linunx or Linux to Windows ? The Lubuntu login is a GUI based login screen.
[06:06] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> they're the best
[06:06] <Sunstream> its just for nostalgic reasonings
[06:06] <ressudesu> how can you be content with arrows
[06:06] <Ben64> Sunstream: so when you open a terminal... its already you
[06:07] <Sunstream> So what you are saying it really isn't easy to do?
[06:07] <Ben64> Sunstream: it's super weird
[06:07] <ressudesu> how can you be so content with arrow keys
[06:08] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :ressudesu http://i.imgur.com/8A6kNXQ.gif
[06:08] <ki7mt> Sunstream, No, im not saying that, you can log into the box without starting X, but on a Desktop system, doesn't make much sense to do that.
[06:08] <Sunstream> I know it don't but it was just for nostalgia. Just for remembering the late 80s early 90s
[06:09] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Server install for example, do not have a desktop installed, and it's all command-line, sorta your nostalgic look and feel.
[06:09] <ressudesu> it doesnt play anything but it's gif, are you sending me maruware
[06:09] <Ben64> Sunstream: open a terminal and type this..... gnome-terminal -e "su $USER -c bash"
[06:09] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :ressudesu Always
[06:10] <ki7mt> Sunstream, you can, from say another Linux machine, SSH to your Laptop there, if you have the IP address, just ssh <username>@some-ip and use your username and password for an SSH session.
[06:10] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> My malware is the best because it does nothing
[06:10] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> And while it does nothing you wont know that you have it
[06:10] <ki7mt> Sunstream, or from Wsindows using PuTTY or something, do the same.
[06:10] <ki7mt> .. Windows
[06:10] <ressudesu> but it grows and feeds on something like a pokemon ?
[06:11] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :ressudesu No, because pokemon sucks
[06:11] <ressudesu> im safe i have firewaru
[06:12] <ki7mt> Or, Open a terminal hit F11 and you go full screen terminal :-) instant nostalgic session
[06:12] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :ressudesu once my malware gets strong enough it will become a super saiyan
[06:12] <Sunstream> Its missing Login:
[06:12] <Sunstream> ;p
[06:13] <ki7mt> Sunstream, Well, that's you options really, login from another box, or, F11 and pretend it's old days.
[06:13] <Dylan_> How do I enable libass for ffmpeg?
[06:14] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Does anyone know how to change the text format for terminal? example: http://i.imgur.com/XyqaREO.png  I know that application is for windows but i've some people with that terminal format.
[06:15] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, Gnome Terminal or Console ?
[06:15] <Sunstream> Now that is very very old but COOL terminal
[06:15] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :ki7mt console
[06:16] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[06:16] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I like to use the dwm as my desktop env
[06:16]  * Sunstream would like to have a terminal like that but I am not going to go that far lol
[06:17] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :ki7mt If this works i will love you forever
[06:17] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, Se;ecy UTF-8 then fixes or whatever and contibue selecting.
[06:17] <ki7mt> .. Select
[06:17] <ressudesu> armv5 ?
[06:17] <Sunstream> let me ask you this GuyThatNeedsHelp it is almost like you want to run your shell like a MUD?
[06:17] <ki7mt> armv6 for sid, armv7 Ubuntu
[06:17] <bubble_beam> hello
[06:17] <ki7mt> Hello
[06:17] <bubble_beam> i have been trying to run gparted from a live cd
[06:18] <bubble_beam> but its showing searching /dev/sda partitions
[06:18] <bubble_beam> its been some time now
[06:18] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :Sunstream Never heard of such a term
[06:18] <bubble_beam> nothing really happens
[06:18] <bubble_beam> hi ki7mt
[06:19] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, Just FYI, you'll probably need a reboot after changing the console fonts.
[06:19] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> How would i make it look like the juan from the image?
[06:20] <Sunstream> MUD?
[06:20] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, No Idea on that one.
[06:20] <Sunstream> do you know what MMoRPG is?
[06:20] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> If you're talking to me then No
[06:21] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, If your talking about the log-in spash screen, search for Ascii Art generators, loads of them around.
[06:21] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Not the spash screen
[06:21] <Sunstream> Multi User Dungeon
[06:22] <Sunstream> Some people host them on their Linux systems
[06:22] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I want to go from user@system too the format from the image
[06:22] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, sri then, Im not sure what your referring to then.
[06:22] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, What image ?
[06:23] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> http://i.imgur.com/XyqaREO.png
[06:23] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, That's all done with .bashrc and / or .bash_profile
[06:24] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, And that Image is generaly known as Ascii Art or at least that's what I've always know it to be.
[06:26] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :ki7mt YES
[06:27] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, The rest is, PS1 command prompt fancy stuff, and setting directory color = on.
[06:28] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Do you know what language the .bashrc file is
[06:28] <bluezone> is it possible to limit network usage, hard-disk usage, ram usage, etc. for certain users on an ubuntu server?
[06:28] <ki7mt> English :-) .. Um it's bash
[06:28] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> o
[06:29] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> You didn't have to add the Um
[06:29] <vak0160> GuyThatNeedsHelp: it is .BASHrc file after all
[06:29] <ki7mt> bluezone, Disk Quotas, yes, not sure about NIC limits
[06:31] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :vak0160 It could have been a trick
[06:33] <vak0160> GuyThatNeedsHelp: haha
[06:33] <vak0160> # ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells.
[06:33] <Sunstream> hmm
[06:35] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Since i'm here i know how to move to different directories using cd but how would i go back? Example: cd Music then cd stuffstuff and now i'm in Music/stuffstuff how would i get back to Music without going back to home
[06:36] <vak0160> cd ..
[06:36] <ki7mt> cd ..
[06:36] <vak0160> `cd ~` to go home
[06:36] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> THANK YOU
[06:37] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> i could not find out how
[06:37] <ki7mt> Or create alias commands in your ".bashrc" file called: alias music='cd $HOME/Music'
[06:38] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> i used cd and it took me back home and i had to restart my adventure
[06:38] <ki7mt> then all you type is: Music
[06:40] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, Look into using bash alis commands, you can do untold number of functions / commands with them, including calling functions etc or scritps, whatever you need.
[06:40] <ki7mt> .. bash alias commands ..
[06:40] <trijntje> GuyThatNeedsHelp: use 'cd -' to go back to the previous directory
[06:41] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> trijntje: Can you tell me the difference from cd .. and cd - ?
[06:41] <trijntje> cd .. moves up one directory, cd - goes to the previous directory
[06:41] <vak0160> GuyThatNeedsHelp: try to spam cd - and you'll see
[06:45] <ressudesu> wow, i didnt know about cd -
[06:45] <vak0160> me too
[06:45] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Anyone know any other useful commands?
[06:46] <ki7mt> man bash
[06:46] <ressudesu> ping -f or rsync
[06:46] <vak0160> uname -a
[06:46] <trijntje> !! is the previous command, !$ is the previous argument
[06:46] <trijntje> apt-get update
[06:46] <trijntje> sudo !!
[06:46] <trijntje> works if you forget sudo
[06:46] <ki7mt> echo $? <= result from previous command
[06:46] <vak0160> history
[06:46] <ki7mt> cat
[06:46] <vak0160> tail
[06:46] <ki7mt> la -al
[06:46] <ki7mt> ls -al
[06:47] <vak0160> pwd
[06:47] <ressudesu> date
[06:47] <trijntje> xdg-open = open file with preferred application
[06:47] <ki7mt> for i in $file ; do echo $file ; done
[06:47] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> didnt know about man bash
[06:47] <ki7mt> whoop echo $i
[06:47] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> xdg-open .
[06:48] <ki7mt> use file itself, find out what a file is or has in it.
[06:49] <vak0160> also `clear`
[06:49] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> what about finding files?
[06:49] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> because when i use whereis it finds some of my main files
[06:50] <vak0160> `locate FileName` ?
[06:50] <ki7mt> locate or whereis <file-name>
[06:51] <ki7mt> which  .. like which python
[06:51] <vak0160> ps ax
[06:51] <vak0160> top
[06:51] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Php bro
[06:51] <ki7mt> pa -aux |grep <process-name> |awk '{print $2}'
[06:52] <ki7mt> or pa -aux |grep <process-name> |awk '{print $1 $2}'
[06:52] <trijntje> pidof firefox ;)
[06:53] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> what is this "pidof firefox"
[06:53] <ki7mt> I probably use uname, grep, awk, locate for / while loops the most.
[06:53] <vak0160> GuyThatNeedsHelp: gave you program ID of firefox
[06:54] <vak0160> so you can `kill <pid>` to kill program
[06:54] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> i use the killall firefox
[06:54] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> and it seems to wurk
[06:54] <Beldar> you can killall firefox
[06:54] <ki7mt> For example, Im using XChat at the moment, pidof xchat yeilds 3577, then you can kill it with kill 3577
[06:55] <ki7mt> pstree is another useful ps tool, if you can remember the name of the process
[06:55] <ki7mt> if you can't remember
[06:56] <vak0160> GuyThatNeedsHelp: careful with killall, some program use an intrepreter, like java or python
[06:57] <vak0160> not by its name
[06:57] <ki7mt> Yeah, killall should a last resort really
[06:57] <GLaDER>  After a reboot it seems like my video drivers broke. My previously working multi monitor setup failed and nod - after trying to fix it - I'm stuck with the following: All monitors will show up as wanted at login screen but trying to login to my Cinnamon environment will result in three black screens and a mouse cursor. Trying to login into Unity won't work either.
[06:57] <guest0292> What do I need to install to setup a build environment for a kernel driver in ubuntu 13.10?
[06:58] <ki7mt> guest0292, Not much, but 13.10 is EOL next month: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[07:00] <guest0292> I already downloaded the "kernel-package" (and it's dependancies) ..Does that include everything to compile a driver?
[07:01] <guest0292> sorry i'm getting all kinds of answers as the link above says i also need "build-dep linux-image-$(uname -r)"
[07:02] <ki7mt> guest0292, It says: Build Env ; If you've not built a kernel on your system before, there are some packages needed before you can successfully build. You can get these installed with:
[07:05] <guest0292> kl7mt, I don't want to build the kernel, just build a wifi driver.
[07:05] <guest0292> so i need to know what packages/metapackages i need to setup a driver compile environment.
[07:07] <ki7mt> guest0292, The you should look at the driver itself and determine what's required there, but using the kernel build-dep will probably cover most of the build tools needed.
[07:09] <guest0292> ok thanks will give it a shot
[07:10] <ki7mt> guest0292, Every package is different, but most are going to need a c-compiler, make, maybe autoconf, autotools-dev, libtool, etc etc.
[07:11] <hAwesome> hello everyone!
[07:11] <ki7mt> Hello
[07:12] <guest0292> seems that each version of ubuntu changes the required packges to setup driver build environment.  3.10 just said "unable to locate package build-dep"..   I recall having to install kernel headers and build-essential in previous versions..then i read i need the "kernel-package"...
[07:12] <guest0292> all i want to do is compile a wifi driver for the kernel...so i need a kernel build envirnoment
[07:12] <ki7mt> guest0292, did you do sudo apt-get build-dep .. .. ..
[07:13] <guest0292> I can't apt-get anything because I don't have internet (that's why I need to compile the wifi driver).. I'm having to use another PC to download the packages then copy them across to my compile pc.
[07:14] <guest0292> i'm using apt-get --print-uris to obtain the urls of each package so I can download them with wget -i
[07:14] <ki7mt> guest0292, That's a whole different issue then. Im not a WiFI GURU, but there's plety in here that are.
[07:15] <larsjaa> I have tried to Google it, but can not find out what the mediascanner in Ubuntu is for. Can anyone enlighten me? Please and thank you.
[07:16] <guest0292> ki7mt:  Thanks for your help anyway, i'll try the 'kernel-package' and see what happens, if not, then i'll download the linux image..
[07:16] <guest0292> http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/kernel-package
[07:18] <Beldar> larsjaa, It's not on a stock install.
[07:21] <ki7mt> It's in universe, was goign to DL it, and read the doc, as Im not sure about it either.
[07:22] <ki7mt> it's used in Unity-Scopes though
[07:22] <larsjaa> Beldar: Thank you. I found that, but strange that there no info on what the package do..
[07:23] <ki7mt> Yeah, nor is that any info in the package descriptions using apt-cache show
[07:25] <ki7mt> larsjaa, from doxygen: The <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/tv">Ubuntu TV</a> media scanner
[07:25] <ki7mt> maintains a list of media files available to the user along with meta-data
[07:25] <ki7mt> for those files. These may be accessed from a local file system which is
[07:25] <ki7mt> physically attached to the device or via network mounts or sharing protocols.
[07:26] <ki7mt> SRI for the FLOOD !
[07:26] <larsjaa> kim7mt: I guess it is for the Unity "start" page then. Thank you for help.
[07:27] <ki7mt> larsjaa, Yes, Unnity Scopes use it, and a few other packages.
[07:27] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Would anything really bad happen if i messed up .bashrc
[07:28] <sloppyf> Hey guys. I installed some software and quickly after the ubuntu store was missing, i can't bring up "about this computer" the settings applet is missing, and add-apt doesn't work. When I try to upgrade, I am just given a long list of things it suggest I remove. Programs that look like they came with ubuntu. What should I do?
[07:30] <Beldar> sloppyf, what software was this?
[07:30] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, well you login would be a bit mess, just make a backup first, cp ~/.bashrc ~/.bashrc-orig then hack away, if it goes sideways, copy it back.
[07:30] <sloppyf> Beldar: crossover.
[07:31] <agentp> hello
[07:31] <agentp> are you a human\'\\
[07:31] <agentp> reset
[07:31] <agentp> sudo apt-get install skynet
[07:31] <sloppyf> Beldar: what should I do?
[07:32] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> whats this skynet?
[07:32] <Beldar> sloppyf, no idea
[07:34] <ki7mt> It's a SETI like app to look for pulsars and such.
[07:34] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Can you restore system settings on linux like windows?
[07:34] <trijntje> which settings?
[07:34] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I feel ashamed saying windows
[07:34] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> All settings
[07:35] <trijntje> yes, if you backup all files on your system you have a backup of all settings
[07:36] <cynicallemon> usually i do a backup of /etc and /home which tends to cover most settings
[07:36] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, until your comfortable using Linux, you may want to play / test in a Virtual Environment, then if thing break, you can just re-install the VM.
[07:40] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Do you know how to restart ubuntu from terminal?
[07:41] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> im scared to type restart
[07:41] <cynicallemon> reboot or sudo reboot
[07:41] <vak0160> GuyThatNeedsHelp: that's the command
[07:42] <wat> im looking for something like graphviz but 3d, like in space ? any open source engines if thats what im looking for ?
[07:42] <wat> only for creating simple bubbles and texts
[07:42] <wat> i like bubbles
[07:43] <ki7mt> wat, gnuplot does all sorts of 3d graphs, not easy to learn, but very capable.
[07:44] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> My terminal format: \[\e]0; \u-\h;\w\a$PS1
[07:44] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> \ "space"
[07:44] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> FACE SLAP
[07:45] <ki7mt> Indeed :-)
[07:46] <Razorblade> abrecus: Hello Abrecus, can you help me clearing a doubt on checkinstall?
[07:46] <Razorblade> Abrecus: Hello Abrecus, can you help me clearing a doubt on checkinstall?
[07:46] <ki7mt> Razorblade, what's the question
[07:47] <Razorblade> ki7mt: thanks sr
[07:47] <Razorblade> I read that checkinstall keeps track of software built from source so that it can be added to package management system, thus provides an easier way of removal of built software.
[07:48] <ki7mt> Yes, it does.
[07:48] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> \[\e]0;\ \u-\h;\w\a$PS1
[07:48] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> :(
[07:49] <ki7mt> I use it along with auto-apt to test source builds with, does a nice job.
[07:50] <ki7mt> Razorblade, Please us the channel, rather than PM so others can answer or benefit from the Q&A
[07:50] <ki7mt> Please use .. ..
[07:50] <Razorblade> ki7mt: ok sir.. please dont mistake me. Iam new in using IRC
[07:51] <Razorblade> Another advantage is that it helps in making .deb slackware or rpm package so that we need not build it manually again and again in various computers. Isn't it?
[07:51] <ki7mt> That's ok, just ask in here, lots of folks know way more than I do.
[07:51] <Razorblade> yeah, thanks ki7mt. Another advantage is that it helps in making .deb slackware or rpm package so that we need not build it manually again and again in various computers. Isn't it?
[07:52] <ki7mt> Razorblade, You still need to build the package, but checkinstall manages the installation and uninstall for the package.
[07:53] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> 0;\ bacon-O3D;~\[\e\]0;\ \u-\h;\w\a$PS1
[07:53] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> WHAT
[07:53] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> IS THIS
[07:53] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> HELP
[07:53] <ki7mt> Razorblade, And yes, you could copy it to other computers, but it's no recommended, unless you use something like pbuilder and a strict clean environment to build the .deb file.
[07:53] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> I CANT SWIM HELP
[07:53] <Razorblade> ok, but let us assume a scenario. I want to build codeblocks manually. and I have installed its dependencies manually (Please make a note. Dependencies also manually built)
[07:54] <Razorblade> and I am now in a situation that i want to reinstall my Ubuntu. Say please assume this situation
[07:54] <ki7mt> Razorblade, If yo want to populate it to other computers, read up on building Ubuntu packlages, which sill ptell you to use either pbuilder or pbuilder-dist, even sbuild to generate the .ldeb file, then distribute it.
[07:55] <Razorblade> Will that checkinstall create a .deb package alongwith the dependencies or only creates a .deb package with codeblocks unmindful of dependencies?
[07:55] <ki7mt> sri about the typos, my KB is hosed at the moment.
[07:56] <Razorblade> if that makes a .deb package alongwith dependencies, would it be easier just to install the deb opackage without hassle?
[07:56] <ki7mt> Razorblade, Yes, it will create a .deb file, but it's based on the machine you you run it on.
[07:56] <Razorblade> yes, I run Ubuntu 14.04LTS
[07:57] <ki7mt> Razorblade, But, it will not create and debin/rules file, nor will it create a dependencies file, for that you need pbuild or similar.
[07:57] <ki7mt> Razorblade, Checkinstall assumes you ahve the dependencies met on the target install machine.
[07:58] <Razorblade> So I have to install the dependencies on the target machine and then use the .deb package?
[07:58] <Ben64> Razorblade: why do all of that anyway? its not supported at all, and the version in the repositories is up to date
[07:59] <Razorblade> Ben64: because I don't have internet connectivity for the Ubuntu machine.
[07:59] <Ben64> then download the packages?
[08:00] <Razorblade> yes, I am downloading the packages manually and building it by myself..
[08:00] <Razorblade> i.e the source codes
[08:00] <Ben64> just get the packages instead...
[08:00] <ki7mt> Razorblade, Yes, that would be acceptable, but the documentation of checkinstall states, you should use the generated .deb file for this purpose. Look into useing pbuilder for what your trying to accomplish, that the right tool for the job your describing.
[08:00] <Ben64> you're making it many times harder than necessary
[08:00] <ki7mt> .. states, you should "not" use the .deb file .. .. .
[08:01] <Razorblade> Ben64: But I have got no other way. thought of using Keryx too, but it requires some more wx packages to be installed,  no more mess
[08:01] <Ben64> but you're downloading the source... just download the binaries...
[08:01] <ki7mt> Ben64, That all depends on, if the package is in Debian/Ubuntu .. if not, then he has to build it one way or another.
[08:01] <Razorblade> binaries??
[08:02] <Ben64> !info codeblocks
[08:02] <ki7mt> That's the IDE, if that's all he needs, then, yes, just install CB
[08:02] <Razorblade> then one more thing I am hearing several techincal terms Universe.. etc etc reading their documentation too, didnt make me clear
[08:04] <pintsizedterror> hello
[08:04] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> ki7mt has saved the day
[08:04] <Razorblade> ki7mt But building it also requires additional dependencies isn't it. Say if it has four or five dependencies, doesnt matter. If it has 50 or 100 of missing dependenccies then lisfe becomes miserable.. Dependency HEll
[08:04] <Ben64> yet compiling all the dependencies along with it is easier???????
[08:05] <ki7mt> Razorblade, If the package you want is in the Ubuntu Repo, APT takes care of all that.
[08:05] <Razorblade> Ben64: I can't understand?!
[08:05] <Razorblade> ki7mt: thats what the real prob is. Using repo requires ACTIVE INTERNET CONNECTIVITY!
[08:05] <Ben64> thats why you can DOWNLOAD THE PACKAGES
[08:06] <ki7mt> Razorblade, Maybe try explaining what you are trying to do, and we can better advise you.
[08:06] <Ben64> or simply plug it into the internet for the 5 minutes it takes to get it
[08:06] <Razorblade> Ben64: but where?
[08:06] <Ben64> packages.ubuntu.com
[08:06] <Razorblade> Ben64: where the packages are?
[08:06] <Ben64> packages.ubuntu.com
[08:06] <Razorblade> no readymade packages!
[08:07] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Thanks for all the information
[08:07] <Ben64> the hell are you talking about?
[08:07] <Razorblade> ben64: I meant Dependency Hell!
[08:07] <ki7mt> Razorblade, What program do you need?
[08:07] <Razorblade> ben64: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependency_hell
[08:07] <pintsizedterror> Hey, I have a quick question: I'm new to Linux, and while I have prior tech experience- Well how do I take care of a linux machine apart from the expected don't get wet, don't feed after midnight
[08:08] <Ben64> so your solution to downloading a few deb packages is to download the source for it, and the source for every library it might need, and compile them all? that is insane!
[08:08] <Razorblade> Ben64: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dependency_hell
[08:08] <cynicallemon> isn't dependency hell for rpm packaged systems?
[08:09] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Wait, does anyone know how to change the default directory for terminal?
[08:10] <ki7mt> pintsizedterror, Honestly, there's very little maintenance needed for average users. Servers and log ratations things like that help, there's not much one has to do really, not like Windows.,
[08:11] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, you mean when you start the gnome-terminal ?
[08:11] <Razorblade> Ben64:Yes its really annoying. everytime I make a source download and try to build,  missing dependency. Finding that dependency and diownloading it, it states "Missing dependency"
[08:11] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Yes
[08:11] <pintsizedterror> No monthly Defragging?
[08:11] <Tex_Nick> pintsizedterror: if you're referring to the movie Gremlins ... Linux isn't a Gremlin ... hey it just works ;)
[08:11] <Ben64> Razorblade: then stop downloading sources!
[08:11] <Razorblade> A chain is formed
[08:11] <pintsizedterror> cool!
[08:11] <Ben64> Razorblade: stop. downloading. sources.
[08:11] <Razorblade> Ben64: But no other go!
[08:12] <Ben64> Razorblade: indeed yes other do go
[08:12] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> by default its home but since i do more stuff in "Desktop" i wanted that to be my default directory
[08:12] <Razorblade> Ben64: :) there is???
[08:12] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, Just add a line to you ~/.bashrc file, at the end: cd ~/myfolder  or whereever you want to start in.
[08:13] <cynicallemon> yep ki7mt is correct
[08:13] <DamienCassou> hi
[08:13] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, so if you want it to start in ~/Desktop, add cd ~/Desktop as the last line in ~/.bashrc
[08:14] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> "fi cd ~/Desktop"?
[08:15] <ki7mt> pintsizedterror, Defrag isn't needed on Linux file systems, we could go into great lengths as to why, but suffice it to say, it's not.
[08:15] <cynicallemon> GuyThatNeedsHelp, no fi
[08:15] <ki7mt> GuyThatNeedsHelp, no "fi"  .. just:   cd ~/Desktop
[08:15] <GuyThatNeedsHelp> Just cd alone?
[08:15] <pintsizedterror> huh...alright.  However, I have neither sound nor wifi on this mainline kernel and I can't reproduce the problem. Is there a way to install sound and wifi on this mainline kernel?
[08:19] <ikonia> you don't install sound and wifi
[08:19] <ikonia> they are part of the kernel
[08:19] <pintsizedterror> I see, so the file system leaves a large amount of space between files, large enough that there is rarely need for more, and if it does it just shuffles stuff around till there is more room
[08:19] <DamienCassou> ikonia: ok. But they are not on the mainline one.
[08:19] <pintsizedterror> thanks!
[08:19] <ikonia> if you can't reproduce the problem on mainline - then boot back into the ubuntu stable kernel and delete the mainline package
[08:20] <DamienCassou> ikonia: I think the problem is related to the sound driver
[08:20] <cynicallemon> isnt Ubuntu One about to close?
[08:20] <ikonia> so then your test is invalid
[08:20] <ikonia> DamienCassou: remove the mainline kernel and return to the ubuntu stable build
[08:21] <ikonia> cynicallemon: yes
[08:21] <pintsizedterror> I believe so CynicalLemon
[08:22] <DamienCassou> ikonia: and what can I do to help developers fix the problem?
[08:23] <cynicallemon> ah lol, misread DamienCassou problem, was wondering how Ubuntu One would cause hardware problems - he was meaning the Ubuntu (one) kernel :)
[08:24] <ikonia> DamienCassou: state that you can't replicate it on mainline
[08:24] <ki7mt> Yeah, Im depressed about UB1, I liked using it.
[08:26] <DamienCassou> ikonia: the problem is that it is not so clear :-). The sound problem manifests itself by preventing me from resuming after suspend. And on the mainline kernel, I also had a problem of resume/suspend. I'm not sure, but I think these problems have different causes.
[08:27] <ikonia>  DamienCassou so you can't replicate your sound setup on mainline, and the suspend and resume problems exist, report back
[08:27] <ikonia> DamienCassou: just report back the facts, thats how you help
[08:28] <Razorblade> Ben64: whats the other way
[08:28] <Ben64> Razorblade: i've told you many times already. download the normal deb packages and install them. same as apt-get would, except without internet
[08:30] <Razorblade> Ben64: Sorry Ben64 I got lost in mesaages :( Sorry again
[08:31] <Ben64> Razorblade: look up 8 lines...
[08:32] <TomyWork> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html This stopped working. Does anyone have a working java package for 12.04?
[08:32] <svip> I have an old piece of hardware (laptop) I am trying to get on wireless.  rfkill tells me that the internal wireless card is hard blocked, and clicking the button does not work (the network manager agrees).
[08:33] <svip> I also have a D-Link-card DWA-645, which rfkill also detects, including the network manager.
[08:33] <svip> But the network manager insists it is disabled by hardware, while rfkill disagrees.
[08:34] <svip> Lastly, I have a D-Link USB-wireless connection thingie, that Ubuntu doesn't detect at all.
[08:35] <svip> From the internet searching I have done, most people seem to concur that both these devices should work without problem.
[08:35] <hateball> svip: What chipset does it use?
[08:35] <svip> hateball: The internal one?
[08:36] <hateball> svip: Well, the one that gets detected but does not work
[08:36] <hateball> svip: If you plug in the USB one and run "lsusb" you get nothing?
[08:36] <svip> hateball: It says "D-Link Corp."
[08:36] <svip> But nothing else.
[08:37] <Ben64> svip: that is impossible
[08:37] <hateball> svip: It should have an 8-digit ID
[08:37] <pintsizedterror> I'm going to go to bed. Thanks for sharing a bit of your knowledge of Linux with me!
[08:37] <svip> Ben64: Well, before that it says 2001:3c15
[08:38] <hateball> so it's RT2870
[08:38] <svip> http://www.dlink.com/uk/en/support/product/dwa-645-wireless-n-cardbus-adapter << This card works.
[08:38] <svip> Or rather, gets detected.
[08:38] <svip> But it doesn't actually work.
[08:38] <peho> Hi
[08:39] <peho> how can I install lirc on ubuntu12.04
[08:39] <Aeyoun> Opera 24 for Linux is out. http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2014/06/opera-24-linux-released-developer-stream/
[08:39] <hateball> svip: I guess that card should be listed with "lspci", so if you can find the ID for that it would be helpful
[08:39] <Ben64> peho: sudo apt-get install lirc
[08:40] <cynicallemon> does anyone use Opera?
[08:40] <wat> opera ? whats that
[08:40] <cynicallemon> web browser
[08:40] <hateball> svip: What release of Ubuntu are you on? The rt2870 drivers should be in the kernel since... a long time ago
[08:40] <wat> it was mainly a compression utility before it's alpha
[08:41] <Aeyoun> Linux releases of Opera have been absent from version 12.17 until 24.
[08:41] <peho> I am trying but when I restart service I dont receive any message
[08:41] <wat> all releases of opera are the same dont worry
[08:41] <cynicallemon> hateball, and sometimes they get pulled fro the kernel
[08:42] <hateball> cynicallemon: Yes. But I'm using this chipset myself on a recent kernel
[08:42] <wat> opera itself should be absent from this world
[08:43] <wat> chrome is the best
[08:43] <svip> hateball: 12.04.4 LTS, lspci detects two wireless cards: 02:01.0 Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04) and 07:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR5416 Wireless Network Adapter [AR5008 802.11(a)bgn] (rev 01)
[08:44] <svip> This matches what I have read, that the D-Link adapter gets detected as Qualcomm.
[08:44] <cynicallemon> browsers are like mens taste in women, some like blondes or brunettes or redheads...
[08:44] <svip> cynicallemon: So Firefox is a redhead?
[08:45] <cynicallemon> Firefox can be a bitch lol
[08:45] <ki7mt> It's something, what, the jury is still out on
[08:45] <hateball> svip: Have you checked in the driver manager if there are restricted drivers to install? iirc the ath9k is one such
[08:45] <svip> hateball: I read that ath9k was now standard in Ubuntu.
[08:46] <svip> I can even modprobe it without complaint.
[08:46] <cynicallemon> i tend to go Firefox or Chromium with pepperflash plugin
[08:46] <kieuhienhp> g
[08:46] <svip> hateball: Not that that works, of course.
[08:46] <hateball> svip: well it is probably missing the firmware
[08:46] <svip> hateball: Sounds like, yes.
[08:47] <svip> But there are no restricted drivers to be installed.
[08:48] <cynicallemon> i had a tplink usb dongle which worked with a lot of effort in 12.04 but from 12.10 was a complete waste of time and effort
[08:49] <kieuhienhp> có ai ở việt nam không vậy
[08:49] <svip> hateball: Hmm... when I insert the card, it just says I have lost connection to the internet.
[08:49] <svip> There is a strange situation where it is clearly understanding what it is, but it is unable to activate it.
[08:51] <svip> hateball: If I run lshw -c network, I can see all three networks (eth0 and both wlans), but both wlans are listed as disabled.
[08:54] <salah> Hi, I have installed vsftpd and are still getting connection refused when trying to connect via port 21. Here is my config: http://pastebin.com/NUSgGNgu
[08:54] <salah> When connecting via port 22 (sftp), everything works great. Any ideas please?
[08:55] <calju16> heya folks, hows it going?
[08:55] <calju16> is anyone else having trouble with netflix/silverlight installation errors?
[08:55] <cynicallemon> salah, firewall blocking 21?
[08:56] <hateball> svip: well, was there anything available with restricted drivers? check when you have the cards plugged in of course
[08:57] <somsip> salah: what version of ubuntu, and how did you install vsftpd?
[08:57] <salah> cynicallemon: No, there is no firewall installed at all
[08:58] <somsip> salah: if 14.04 I believe there is a kernel bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vsftpd/+bug/1313450
[08:58] <cynicallemon> salah, silly question but sftp is more secure so do you need ftp?
[08:58] <salah> somsip: Ubuntu 12.04, installed via apt-get and has version of 2.3.5. Kernel has version of 3.2.0-64-generic
[09:01] <salah> cynicallemon: The connected webcam uses only FTP, or I would make the world easier for my self aswell :-)
[09:01] <somsip> salah: ok - not related tot hat bug then...
[09:02] <cynicallemon> salah, useless webcam manufacturers lol
[09:02] <salah> somsip: yes it is, I am trying to connect via Filezilla first before I try the webcam :-)
[09:02] <salah> cynicallemon: yeah :-)
[09:03] <svip> hateball: I think the program is broken; there is just a white box, but it doesn't look like it's finished drawing.
[09:04] <chenzen> can somebody recommend an application like konqueror that can be a web browser and file manager?
[09:05] <svip> Internet Explorer.
[09:05] <cynicallemon> lol
[09:05] <cynicallemon> svip, that shares files across the ne too
[09:05] <cynicallemon> *net
[09:06] <salah> somsip: thanks for the link you provided. The solution (#19) tells me to go enable -proposed on kernel. Is this a option I can enable this without compiling/installing new kernel?
[09:09] <ki7mt> salah, accoding to this, you'll be installing, but no build required: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
[09:10] <somsip> salah: no idea. I just some a reference to vsftpd and 14.04 kernel issues a few days and thought it might be relevant
[09:10] <somsip> s/some/saw
[09:19] <cylonmath> Hi, I am completely lost. I want to install CUDA (4.x) and use a good Nvidia Driver for my GPU (System Specs: Ubuntu 14.04 64bit,  i7-2600K, Nvidia GTX560 Ti). Anyone know a working tutorial for me? Things I tried from google gave me black screen al the time...
[09:20] <salah> Ok, so this proposed don't work, and the vsftpd log is empty. A interesting thing is that when I run service vsftpd restart, I get: "stop: Unknown instance:" which means something is stopping it up. Any idea where I can look?
[09:20] <iptable> salah, it's crashing or stopping on error. tried vsftpd logs or running vsftpd in debug mode?
[09:21] <salah> iptable: yes, I am checking the vsftpd log, it's empty. Is there any system log or something I can check to debug further?
[09:21] <iptable> salah, /var/log/xferlog and /var/log/vsftpd.log and /var/log/syslog as well as dmesg
[09:22] <smss1995> cylonmath: I think you must to search for your technical information that provided in : ~$ lspci | grep -i vga
[09:23] <iptable> salah, also try running vsftpd on it's own, not through a start/stop script. that may output something useful to the shell
[09:23] <iptable> cylonmath, you want to install the nvidia driver to being with, is that correct?
[09:24] <cylonmath> iptable: That's correct. And then proceed with a cuda installation which is compatible with that driver (so that I can build CUDA samples and run)
[09:24] <iptable> cylonmath, assuming you have an nvidia card (lspci to confirm), use uname -a to check what version of kernel you are running, then using apt get install: 1. build-essential, 2. linux-header-YOUR-KERNEL-VERSION (you can find all by doing apt-cache search linux-header), 3. nvidia driver.
[09:24] <iptable> cylonmath, install all using apt-get
[09:25] <iptable> cylonmath, including the nvidia driver and nvidia-settings etc
[09:25] <iptable> cylonmath, once you complete that, reboot and make sure the system runs with the nvidia driver (screen still loads, and lsmod |grep -i nvidia does retuen the drive). Once that is done, you can install CUDA, which will be outside my perimiter knowledge
[09:26] <iptable> cylonmath, note: if headers are unavailable for your running kernel, upgrade the kernel to latest version
[09:27] <cylonmath> Thank you very much sir. I will try those steps carefully one more time.
[09:27] <zenzero100> Ciao :)
[09:27] <iptable> cylonmath, CODA? mining bitcoins using your GPU? I hope you got damn good cooling and a spare GPU just in case this one burns out... they do.
[09:28] <iptable> cylonmath, oh, and do apt-get update before you start please
[09:29] <lepot> can somebody say why I get this error? https://imgur.com/2oeCgRV
[09:29] <iptable> lepot, is that supposed to be funny?
[09:30] <cylonmath> iptable: I need to use CUDA to speed up my linear algebra solvers
[09:30] <iptable> cylonmath, oh, that's fine then :)
[09:33] <iptable> cylonmath, something like this should do everything for you for the nvidia bit: apt-get update; apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`; apt-get install nvidia-331-updates nvidia-331-update-uvm nvidia-settings
[09:33] <egsome> What is the most lightweight alternative to XFCE ? I need the least usage of RAM
[09:33] <iptable> cylonmath, assuming here that you do have a kenrel for which headers are in the repos. if not, as stated, upgrade kernel first
[09:34] <iptable> cylonmath, and install cuda from repos once you have tested the the graphics card loads correctly after reboot. I can't help with cuda, no knowledge here ;)
[09:34] <iptable> egsome, X on it's own ;)
[09:34] <iptable> egsome, LXDE
[09:35] <ki7mt> egsome, See toward the bottom of the page: http://www.renewablepcs.com/about-linux/kde-gnome-or-xfce
[09:35] <ki7mt> It's a bit dated, but close to actual mem usage
[09:35] <egsome> iptable, Didn't feel good on LXDE .. Any better alternatives ?
[09:35] <iptable> ki7mt, nice, i'm saving that link :)
[09:36] <vak0160> egsome: openbox on its own
[09:36] <iptable> egsome, check the link ki7mt sent. it has a nice table at the bottom saying "ram used" comparison per DE
[09:36] <egsome> ki7mt, That's great, thanks.
[09:36] <egsome> iptable, I will do, thanks.
[09:36]  * iptable goes away
[09:37] <egsome> vak0160, How much RAM ?
[09:37] <vak0160> egsome: lower than lxde, since lxde using openbox
[09:38] <cylonmath> iptable: I think I will go with 304.x drivers
[09:38] <vak0160> see crunchbang os for example
[09:38] <cylonmath> iptable: that version gave me trouble with cuda installation last time
[09:39] <ki7mt> Openbox 76MB, LXDE 82MB, according to the links analysis, IceWM comes in at 53MB
[09:40] <egsome> Anybody tried Mate with Ubuntu ?
[09:40] <ki7mt> But the WM is just part, Enlightenment is probably the lightest overal DE at 72MB
[09:41] <ki7mt> Yes, I've use Mate, it's ok. I prefer Razor-QT or LXDE though
[09:41] <Taplu> ubuntu is a Joke
[09:41] <Taplu> It is very unstable
[09:42] <bcvery> Taplu, ranting/venting in #ubuntu-offtopic, please keep this chat clear for support
[09:42] <Taplu> oka
[09:42] <Taplu> okay*
[09:43] <Taplu> Ubuntu sucks!!!
[09:43] <DJones> Taplu: Please stop that
[09:43] <Taplu> Why can't you use Gnome...Unity is crap
[09:44] <bazhang_> Taplu, use gnome-shell if you dont like unity
[09:44] <ryu13212> Taplu:you can use Gnome-shell
[09:44] <Taplu> Actually Linus is Crap
[09:45] <Taplu> Linux*
[09:45] <bazhang_> Taplu, otherwise, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:45] <Taplu> Windows 8 speaking
[09:46] <Taplu_Returns> I am back !!! Please don't remove me
[09:47] <bazhang_> Taplu_Returns, here is support only
[09:47] <Taplu_Returns> I hate Linux
[09:47] <bazhang_> Taplu_Returns, wrong channel for that
[09:47] <ki7mt> How did we know that was gonna happen :-)
[09:50] <ki7mt> Has the #ubuntu+1 room name changed ?
[09:50] <DJones> ki7mt: Nope, still the same
[09:50] <ki7mt> Hmm ok, thanks
[09:51] <ki7mt> Hee,, would help if I spelled it correctly Duh!!
[09:57] <untaken_> Hi, I am trying to install Ubuntu on a laptop alongside windows, when I get to the part where I choose the partitiion, the button 'Install Now' is greyed out. Any ideas?
[09:58] <untaken_> I have tried Ubuntu and Lubuntu and both do exactly the same
[09:58] <ryu13212> Um...
[09:58] <sveta> you have to choose first, then it will let you install
[09:59] <untaken_> you mean click on the block?
[09:59] <untaken_> let me retry...
[10:00] <ki7mt> Yeah, click the partition, then unless you want to an advanced setup, select side-by-side, that's what I use, works up through Win8 for the boxes I've setup.
[10:01] <untaken_> rebooting process, but did think I did this... be silly if I didn't ;)
[10:01] <cylonmath> iptable, still same. After installing driver 304,  Black screen at login window ( but I can hear the sound, it expects me to enter pass)
[10:02] <cylonmath> maybe this is a monitor compatability problem
[10:02] <Conna> tet to ret :v
[10:07] <untaken_> it don't work. There is windows and ubuntu and scroll bar thing. I move it left and right and I click on ubuntu as many times as I like, but the install now button is still grey
[10:07] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys i have a very silly question/picky question...I am using Xubuntu 12.04, love it, using the default kinda dark theme (GTK) - when using android sdk elipse or leafpad i notice that the background in the notepad and is dark gray, which looks nice but all the text is too dark, and in the android sdk editor the dark purple is impossible to see, how can i change these things without using another theme in the apperence settings?
[10:07] <untaken_> bit of a fail this
[10:12] <ryu13212> select back and try to use "advanced"
[10:21] <amincd> When I run this: http://paste.linuxassist.net/view/827fd7d8 I'm getting this error: "bash: warning: here-document at line 0 delimited by end-of-file (wanted `EOF')"
[10:21] <amincd> when I run the portion starting from "sshpass.." directly in terminal, it works
[10:22] <amincd> any pointers?
[10:27] <clemens> When i start Ubuntu my volume control panel in the tray is always missing. Any ideas? (Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit with Unity)
[10:31] <ryu13212> volume controll? use system setup
[10:32] <clemens> ryu13212, yes that little white speaker :D ... what do you mean with system setup?
[10:33] <ryu13212> seting volume with system setup.
[10:34] <clemens> ryu13212, yes sure but i want it back in the tray^^
[10:41] <Guest54606> hi
[10:41] <Guest54606> how i can be pentester?
[10:42] <ryu13212> sudo apt-get install indicator-sound?
[10:42] <ryu13212> sudo apt-get install indicator-sound
[10:43] <bcvery> clemens, have you seen this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/363354/the-sound-volume-indicator-disappeard-ubuntu-13-10
[10:43] <ryu13212> (if you purge pluseaudio)
[10:44] <bcvery> clemens, I realise you're using 14.04, but that shouldn't affect the advise given there
[10:44] <clemens> bcvery, no i haven't! thx i will try it :)
[10:46] <iptable> cylonmath, did you try to install driver 331-updates and confirm the issue still persists
[10:46] <iptable> cylonmath, please also provide (pastebin) output of lspci
[10:47] <iptable> cylonmath, and check GPU compatibility with linux and driver
[10:48] <bnutzer> hello. how to add applets to the tray in 14.04? also, how to change the default font?
[10:52] <mateusz_> hello. I'm using computer with a 1 gb ram. Ubuntu freeze when I'm using over 70% RAM usually during opening a new tab in forefox (all plugins are trned off). After that happend HDD LED is on all the time.
[10:53] <iptable> mateusz_, either it isn't a RAM issue, or you ran out of RAM and hit SWAP space on the HDD
[10:54] <iptable> in that case the system is trying to swap in/out
[10:55] <bnutzer> mateusz_: sounds like you've got a system that is bad at swapping. you could try changing some i/o scheduler settings
[10:55] <iptable> mateusz_, wait for it to finish and either shut down software, or reboot. you have run out of RAM. for systems with low ram, you can use lubuntu or linux mint mate (ubuntu with a low requirement GUI pretty much).
[10:56] <mateusz_> I checked ram and is ok. It doen's matter whether swan is on or off. After that I'm able to go to terminal and run "free" command and i still have over 200 mb free ram
[10:56] <iptable> mateusz_, run sudo iotop (you may bneed to install it first)
[10:56] <mateusz_> ps. running that command takes about 15 min
[10:56] <iptable> mateusz_, it will show you what is thrashing the HDD
[10:57] <iptable> mateusz_, you could have a failing HDD...
[10:57] <mateusz_> "sudo iotop" shows that all programs want to read from HDD
[10:57] <iptable> mateusz_, it shows programs in the "most reads/writes" order
[10:57] <iptable> mateusz_, the ones on top will show you which ones are doing most read/writes?
[10:59] <mateusz_> all programs I see in iotop are reading from HDD, it doesn't happen before freeze
[10:59] <Ben64> mateusz_: then have it running before freeze, maybe from ssh
[10:59] <iptable> mateusz_, is there one or 2 that have significantly more read/write in the numbers section than the others?
[11:00] <mateusz_> yes, firefox
[11:00] <iptable> restart firefox
[11:00] <iptable> see if issue is resolved
[11:00] <mateusz_> when i kill firefox usually everything backs to normal but that takes about 30 min
[11:01] <iptable> aaah
[11:01] <mateusz_> most of the time i have to use REISUB
[11:01] <bnutzer> how to change the default font in unity?
[11:01] <zzZZzz-ubuqity> Hello
[11:01] <iptable> install lm-sensors and check temp when it goes wrong
[11:01] <iptable> mateusz_, ^
[11:01] <mateusz_> temp around 50 %, no exceed cpu usage
[11:02] <iptable> i mean temperature
[11:02] <iptable> in degrees c
[11:02] <cylonmath> iptable, Maybe it is incompatible : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1310406
[11:02] <mateusz_> sorru 50 degree
[11:03] <iptable> mateusz_, does the problem persist if you use other browsers (like chromium), or just with firefox?
[11:03] <zzZZzz-ubuqity> I have an .MP4 video made with the cellphone, and I need to Rotate the video in Landscape mode to be wachable on laptop, and more over I need to convert it into a free format (free container .something example .ogg .mkv etc. with free video and free audio codecs)
[11:03] <zzZZzz-ubuqity> how can I do that from ubuntu studio?
[11:03] <iptable> cylonmath, that is very possible. try driver 331 thou
[11:03] <mateusz_> I didn't check that I'm using only firefox (I'm new ubuntu user)
[11:04] <mateusz_> but all plugins are turned off
[11:04] <bnutzer> mateusz_: have you tried another, possibly older distro on the same hw?
[11:04] <iptable> mateusz_, install another browser and check. most most likely it is RAM starving
[11:05] <iptable> mateusz_, when you run free, it's when swapping already happens so you may see free ram, but it's still swapping. install a less RAM requiring distro, like lubuntu.
[11:05] <lansch> hallo suche skype softwear für ubuntu 64 bit
[11:05] <bnutzer> lansch: englisch
[11:05] <mateusz_> now i'm using 12.04, in new ubuntu distio thats happened more often
[11:06] <bnutzer> lansch: and when it comes to softwear, consult your local clothes dealer :)
[11:06] <bcvery> zzZZzz-ubuqity, I'd use avconv, then run something like: avconv -i file.mp4 -vf transpose=1 out.mkv
[11:06] <bnutzer> thanks for support
[11:07] <zzZZzz-ubuqity> I am not confortable with command line, isn't there some GUI conversion video software?
[11:07] <Ben64> cylonmath: you have 8600m?
[11:07] <Ben64> zzZZzz-ubuqity: its as easy as running the command given to you, its not scary, learn something new! :D
[11:08] <cylonmath> Ben64, Geforce GTX560 Ti connected to an HDMI monitor
[11:08] <mateusz_> now i'm testing it with swap turned off. Thats why i cant understand, it seems to be caused by lack or ram but "free" shows around 200 mb free
[11:08] <Ben64> cylonmath: then why did you link to 8600m thing?
[11:08] <clemens> bcvery, okey in the login screen the volume applet is there but when i log in it disappears
[11:08] <cylonmath> Ben64, I have the same error in dmesg and both cards are Geforce
[11:09] <tdrusk> I recently installed ubuntu 14.04, but it appears that my gtk2 apps are not using my gtk theme. I am just trying to use the default theme. How can I just reset everything?
[11:09] <mateusz_> anyway
[11:09] <Ben64> cylonmath: you should be using the 331 driver
[11:09] <bcvery> clemens, Annoying; sorry, not able to help further.  Ask your question again and hopefully someone else will be able to help.
[11:09] <mateusz_> i'll try different browser
[11:09] <mateusz_> thx
[11:09] <clemens> bcvery, okey thx for your help i will try :)
[11:12] <cylonmath> Ben64, I was trying 304 to be compatible with CUDA. But if it doesnt work now, I will try 331?
[11:13] <Ben64> cylonmath: 304 is the legacy driver, likely doesn't support the gtx 560. 331 works with cuda so i'm not sure of a reason to not use it
[11:13] <nszceta> How can I generate a GraphML file from UML?
[11:17] <Gabriel_> Hello All. I just transferred my hard drive from one laptop to another (lubuntu 14.04) the same hardware (same laptop) I can't seem to get the networking to work. I have WiFi available but i can even seem to get any internet connection, help please.
[11:18] <iptable> Gabriel_, if you connect your phone to that wifi, does it stay connected and does it browse the internet now? like at this very moment
[11:18] <Gabriel_> iptable: Yes
[11:18] <iptable> Gabriel_, home or office network?
[11:19] <Gabriel_> iptable: Office, but it all changed after replacing the HD from one laptop to another
[11:19] <TJ-> Gabriel: It is probably that the MAC address of the network adapter was stored in the network configuration. Edit the saved connections and reselect from the available MACs
[11:20] <iptable> Gabriel_, I am asking that question as the MAC address changed. This could mean ither that 1. you need to get ubuntu reconfigured for new network card, or 2. your office could be doing mac-based-filtering and require you to use the same mac always.
[11:20] <Gabriel_> TJ-: I tried looking for it /etc/network/interfaces, but no luck
[11:20] <iptable> Gabriel_, do you actually get connected to a wifi, or not even that?
[11:20] <Gabriel_> iptable: 1 is the best bet
[11:21] <iptable> Gabriel_, from experience, 2 is best bet, but let's try 1.
[11:21] <Gabriel_> iptable: nothing
[11:21] <iptable> Gabriel_, ifconfig -a; iwconfig -a
[11:21] <m1dnight__> hey guys, seems to not refresh but simply draw on top of the current one
[11:21] <iptable> Gabriel_, iwconfig without -a, sorry
[11:22] <Gabriel_> iptable: did them both
[11:22] <TJ-> Gabriel: If it is a desktop system, the network config is stored by Network Manager; just open the network connections configuration from the network applet in the task-bar
[11:22] <iptable> Yup
[11:23] <iptable> Gabriel_, did iwconfig show you are connected to a wifi network, did it show wlan0, anything? I can't see your screen...
[11:29] <Guest26836> m having problme in ubtuntu settings
[11:29] <Guest26836> can anyone guide me
[11:30] <bibi234> hello, in a given directory, I'd like to have all the files and folders that will be created by a user A to be owned by a user B, however I'd like to keep the owning group to the user A group, is it possible?
[11:30] <bcvery> !details | Guest26836
[11:31] <Guest26836> having problem in connecting net via bluetooth
[11:32] <smss1995> Guest26836: Search for your bluetooth chipset
[11:33] <Guest26836> there's a setting wd a name KDE in ubuntu, there m unable 2 even connect through cable or USB
[11:33] <Guest26836> finding no way how 2 connect my net in KDE settings
[11:34] <Guest26836> if m taking d name of setting right...?
[11:34] <Guest26836> whereas in other settings m able 2 connect net through USB n cable
[11:34] <TJ-> bibi234: I presume you have another restriction, which is that user B cannot be a member of group A?
[11:35] <zzZZzz-ubuqity> Ben64, bcvery I will try with Transmageddon maybe it will do the trick. Thx. for info
[11:35] <bcvery> zzZZzz-ubuqity, best of luck
[11:36] <bibi234> TJ-: yes they can't be in the same group
[11:36] <smss1995> Guest26836:  Please type completely your words. I don't know whats your choices and for what, but I know if you are having problem in connecting the bluetooth with other things, this must be from your chipset configurations which be available at GOOGLE
[11:36] <TJ-> bibi234: I think you'd need to move into using ACLs
[11:38] <smss1995> Guest26836: So, You have to search for your chipset configurations (you can get technical informations about it through executing this command : $ lspci | grep -i blue), then get it and install it and it will be work. (does NOT matter whats your Desktop Environment(KDE,GNome,etc))
[11:40] <dusf123> i have a link on my desktop, i want to ammend -opengl to the end of the command that runs it but when i look at properties there is no command to edit. how do i create a desktop launcher for wine "~/World of Warcraft 3.3.5a (no install)/Wow.exe" -opengl ?
[11:41] <TJ-> Guest26836: If the bluetooth service is configured to provide PAN (Personal Area Network) you should find a "Bluetooth" adapter option in the Network Connection editor
[11:41] <histo> dusf123: look in your /usr/share/applications/  for some .desktop examples
[11:41] <bibi234> TJ-: I haven't investigated this yet. If I manage to do it on a given folder, will it also work by default for all its subfolders that will be created later? Basically I want 2 users that are not in the same group to do whatever they want in this folder, including subfolders and files created later, but I don't want to put 777 permission.
[11:43] <TJ-> bibi234: I don't think I've ever used that configuration but I think ACL will do the job; I'd suggest doing some experiments on a test-case
[11:43] <dusf123> histo: i am looking at the properties of firefox, how do i create a launcher like it?
[11:43] <histo> dusf123: look in /usr/share/applications/  for firefox.desktop
[11:44] <dusf123> histo: i am looking at it i have the properties window open, that does not tell me how to create something like it
[11:44] <starbuck> hi, is there way to edit a file with vim as root when the file has no write rights whatsoever, like this: -r-xr-xr-x ???
[11:45] <starbuck> i know i could grant the write right with chmod, but maybe there is another way?
[11:45] <bibi234> TJ-: ok thanks I'll check this out
[11:46] <dusf123> i have a link on my desktop, i want to ammend -opengl to the end of the command that runs it but when i look at properties there is no command to edit. how do i create a desktop launcher for wine "~/World of Warcraft/Wow.exe" -opengl ?
[11:46] <histo> dusf123: http://askubuntu.com/questions/142159/desktop-shortcut-to-create-a-new-desktop-shortcut-doesnt-do-anything
[11:46] <histo> dusf123: edit that whatever.desktop file and append -opengl to the exec= section
[11:46] <dusf123> histo: thank you, hopefully that link will contain an answer
[11:46] <histo> dusf123: i've answered several times now.
[11:48] <histo> starbuck: why?
[11:48] <starbuck> because i could? ;)
[11:49] <histo> starbuck: no you can't and won;t
[11:49] <TJ-> dusf123: maybe this page can help, from this bookmark on into the next section: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft#Enabling_OpenGL
[11:49] <auscompgeek> Hmm. My laptop has a Bluetooth adapter, but nothing detects it. `hcitool dev` doesn't list anything. What could I be doing wrong?
[11:50] <menko> hi al
[11:50] <menko> imali nqkoi bg
[11:50] <histo> auscompgeek: is there a module loaded for it?
[11:50] <histo> auscompgeek: pastebin the output of lspci -k
[11:51] <histo> starbuck: what would be the point of making a file read only if you could write to it?
[11:51] <starbuck> histo: well, i can and did it already... with the :wq! inside vim.
[11:51] <auscompgeek> histo: http://ix.io/d6w
[11:51] <histo> starbuck: then it wasn't read only
[11:51] <DJones> !bg | menko (I think this is what you're looking for),
[11:52] <starbuck> histo: it was, or what else do you think is that: -r-xr-xr-x
[11:52] <histo> starbuck: yes if you force
[11:52] <auscompgeek> hmm, that's odd, I can't seem to see any bluetooth adapters in lspci...
[11:52] <histo> starbuck: why do you want to do this though?
[11:53] <histo> auscompgeek: what type of system is this? make and model please
[11:53] <histo> auscompgeek: also check your bios/uefi to make sure bluetooth is enabled
[11:53] <starbuck> histo: because i didn't want to change the rights of the file, just a simple line inside.
[11:55] <histo> starbuck: if you +i the file it wouldn't happen.
[11:55] <auscompgeek> histo: HP Pavilion dv7; can't remember/find a more specific model number
[11:55] <cylonmath> Ben64, well I have problem with 331 too. my xorglog: http://nopaste.info/e790e770f0.html, my dmesg: http://nopaste.info/b5eb8d55d2.html
[11:55] <TJ-> auscompgeek: Are you 100% sure it has a Bluetooth adapter? Have you seen/used it previously?
[11:55] <hateball> auscompgeek: did you check with lsusb?
[11:56] <hateball> that's what most BT devices are
[11:56] <TJ-> auscompgeek: I've seen many model/sub-model differences where despite all the feature lists claiming BT "support" no actual BT adapter is installed... its an optional extra
[11:56] <starbuck> histo: i don't knwo what you mean by +i, but don't worry, i got the right answer elsewhere
[11:57] <histo> starbuck: man chattr
[11:57] <Gabriel_> iptable: iwconfig  output: ESSID: Off/any Power MGMT off
[11:57] <auscompgeek> TJ-: Yes, I was able to use the Bluetooth adapter in my previous Ubuntu install and Windows.
[11:57] <histo> auscompgeek: looks like should be a wifi/bluetooth device
[11:57] <iptable> Gabriel_, look at the laptop carefully. it should have a wifi on/off button. press/switch it
[11:57]  * iptable goes away for a while
[11:58] <Gabriel_> iptable: I did turned it of and on
[11:58] <histo> auscompgeek: rfkill list   is anything blocked?
[11:58] <TJ-> auscompgeek: That's a good sign! If you don't see it with "lsusb" maybe it is hard-disabled by BIOS or hardware (radio) switch ?
[11:58] <auscompgeek> hateball: not in there either.
[11:58] <auscompgeek> It's not listed at all by rfkill.
[11:58] <iptable> Gabriel_, use rfkill to check status and turn off/on as required
[11:59] <iptable> I need to run
[11:59] <auscompgeek> I recall rfkill listed it before I upgraded to trusty.
[11:59] <histo> auscompgeek: check bios
[11:59] <auscompgeek> histo: hmm, will do. brb.
[11:59] <histo> auscompgeek: and any physical switch or button to enable disable it.
[11:59] <auscompgeek> histo: physical switch is enabled, otherwise my wifi would also be off. :)
[12:00] <TJ-> auscompgeek: Can you show us "pastebinit <(lspci -nnvk && lsusb)"
[12:00] <iptable> Gabriel_, alternatively, if that doesn't work, 1. start fomr live CD and check if you get wifi. it may be a broken wifi on the laptop. 2. reboot and use your network manager to reconfigure the network/wifi card and scan for networks. 3. iwscan is a useful tool. 4. check if you get cabled network to compelte the tests
[12:00] <Gabriel_> iptable: I booted with ubuntu 13.10 and got wifi connection
[12:01] <iptable> Gabriel_, cool. in that case, network manager and iwscan. looks like the issue is with ubuntu and changed MAC address of the card
[12:01] <auscompgeek> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7690056/
[12:01] <histo> Gabriel_: which chipset do you have?
[12:01] <Gabriel_> iptable: can I reset them?
[12:02]  * auscompgeek reboots
[12:02] <iptable> histo, quick summary: if worked until he had to move the HDD from one laptop to another. same model, etc. Wifi no longer works on the new laptop with same OS, but works on live CD. Issue is with MAC address remembered by NM or udev of the old laptop.
[12:02] <iptable> histo, if you know where it's saved and how to get rid of that settings, that would be awesome, as I don't :/
[12:02] <iptable> Gabriel_, ^
[12:03] <histo> iptable: why does nm care about the mac changing?
[12:03] <Gabriel_> iptable: that is the best way to sum it up
[12:03] <Gabriel_> iptable: (:
[12:03] <iptable> histo, I don't know? it seems to get confused. so does udev.
[12:03] <histo> huh
[12:03] <TJ-> auscompgeek: to be clear, you've got a Huawei Ascend G300  connected via USB?
[12:03] <iptable> especially since the "unique and persistent network names" got invented
[12:03] <iptable> I need to run
[12:03] <histo> did he try purging and resinstalling networkmanager?
[12:03] <histo> Gabriel_: what version of ubuntu
[12:03] <iptable> histo, not yet. we just managed to established it's the OS, not HW or network
[12:04] <Gabriel_> iptable: thanks mate for everything
[12:04] <Gabriel_> histo: lubuntu 14.04
[12:04] <iptable> Gabriel_, no probs. histo is taking over :) drop me a line once you find the solution. I am curious
[12:04] <Gabriel_> iptable: will do mate
[12:05] <auscompgeek> TJ-: yes. (well, it's actually not a G300, but close enough.)
[12:05] <TJ-> Gabriel: can you show us via pastebinit "/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules" by copying it to another PC, or if the PC has wired connection, using that?
[12:05] <TJ-> auscompgeek: OK ... just ensuring we know what is connected :)
[12:05] <auscompgeek> Turns out BIOS doesn't have any settings to disable bluetooth/wifi.
[12:06] <histo> Gabriel_: i'm trying to find a bug on that. i'm sure someone has filed one.
[12:06] <Gabriel_> histo: Thanks
[12:06] <histo> Gabriel_: can you pastebin your /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[12:06] <ezra-s> is there any way to enable old-style indicators in ubuntu 14.04 with unity?
[12:06] <TJ-> auscompgeek: Really? Well if so that should make things easier.... lets look at the kernel log at boot-time: "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg"
[12:06] <Gabriel_> histo: yes, doing so now
[12:07] <auscompgeek> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7690083/
[12:08] <TJ-> auscompgeek: ouch: "Your BIOS is broken; DMAR reported at address 0!" ... that might lead to a problem later! ... continuing reading
[12:08] <histo> Gabriel_: I would assume you could change the mac in that file and be good to go.
[12:08] <Gabriel_> histo: to what? anything different?
[12:09] <histo> grep '1c:65:9d:0c:38:9c' /etc/udev/rules.d/*
[12:09] <histo> Gabriel_: sorry don't do that.
[12:09] <shogun_> does anybody know why I cannot change the brightness from the settings? happens everytime I disconnect my laptop from the power source. need to restart so I can get the brightness back.
[12:09] <histo> Gabriel_: to the mac of the new hardware
[12:10] <histo> Gabriel_: does ip link   show the new mac?
[12:10] <Gabriel_> histo: it looks the same
[12:11] <histo> Gabriel_: pastebin that file I asked and also the output of.  ip link
[12:11] <shogun_> have anyone tried unity tweaks on 14.04? changing the icons doesent work
[12:11] <Gabriel_> histo:
[12:11] <histo> ?
[12:12] <ezra-s> shogun_, do you have an intel graphics card? I recall reading a problem with intel and ubuntu 14.04
[12:13] <Gabriel_> histo: # PCI device 0x8086:0x4229 (iwl4965) ATTR{address}=="00:1d:e0:4d:3a:b9"
[12:14] <histo> Gabriel_: okay grep "00:1d:e0:4d:3a:b9" /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[12:14] <Gabriel_> histo: it's there
[12:15] <histo> Gabriel_: that's odd.  sudo dpkg-reconfigure udev
[12:16] <Gabriel_> histo: just got an error sudo: can't resolve host name
[12:16] <TJ-> auscompgeek: I can see no indication of a bluetooth adapter. Can you pastebin the output of  "sudo dmidecode -t system | pastebinit"
[12:17] <histo> Gabriel_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure network-manager
[12:18] <auscompgeek> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7690125/
[12:21] <Gabriel_> histo: did it, trying to restart networking
[12:24] <TJ-> auscompgeek: OK, using the NE555PA model reference I found this spec. Is this the *exact* spec of the PC as far as you know it?
[12:24] <TJ-> auscompgeek: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=uk&lc=en&docname=c01586241
[12:24] <histo> Gabriel_: k if not, backup /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules  then edit the file and delete the entries. reboot the machine and netwokr should work.
[12:24] <histo> Gabriel_: here's a page that will provide insight: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/175876/how-do-i-fix-my-vms-network-connection-if-it-seems-to-be-running-ok-from-the-ho
[12:24] <auscompgeek> TJ-: this laptop has dual HDDs and a 2.53 GHz (I think) CPU, so no.
[12:24] <auscompgeek> s/ \(.*\)//
[12:25] <hateball> auscompgeek: running "sudo dmidecode" should show the exact model up top
[12:25] <TJ-> auscompgeek: You've actually used Bluetooth on this PC previously? If so, either the BT module has somehow got disconnected (a knock maybe?) or else it has failed (I've seen that on other laptops, very rarely)
[12:25] <TJ-> hateball: Yes, we've done that
[12:26] <hateball> TJ-: Oh, sorry, I thought there were uncertainties
[12:26] <auscompgeek> TJ-: Yes. I also came to the same conclusion, but I wasn't too sure. Thanks.
[12:27] <TJ-> hateball: Yes, the model in the DMI is one of those country-specific codes that HP doesn't list anyplace
[12:28] <TJ-> auscompgeek: See page 80 of the service guide: http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c02842278.pdf
[12:28] <Gabriel_> histo: thanks mate.
[12:29]  * iptable is back. histo bingo :) that's the one, persistent rules in udev :)
[12:31] <Gabriel_> iptable: please elanorate
[12:31] <Gabriel_> iptable: elaborate...
[12:31] <auscompgeek> TJ-: ah, thanks!
[12:31] <thecha> hi musa
[12:31]  * sveta hands auscompgeek a box of unwritten unit tests on regex
[12:32] <thecha> hi sveta
[12:32] <thecha> hey auscompgeek
[12:32] <sveta> (since you're awesome at those, tests should be awesome too :)
[12:32] <sveta> hi
[12:32] <thecha> hello Gabriel_
[12:32] <Gabriel_> thecha: Hello
[12:32] <thecha> Gabriel_→ sveta→ can i add you to my pidgeon friendslist?
[12:32] <thecha> i don thave any friends
[12:32] <sveta> if you like
[12:32] <thecha> thanks
[12:32] <sveta> i'll sleep but you should find me around this time tomorrow hopefully
[12:32] <Gabriel_> thecha: K
[12:33] <thecha> oh ok
[12:33] <auscompgeek> sveta: oh god.
[12:34] <sveta> "please don't make me a god, it's too little sleep"
[12:34] <auscompgeek> sveta: what could these possibly be for...
[12:34] <sveta> for all the cpan modules that invovle regex and have too few unit tests
[12:34] <sveta> hehe
[12:36] <TJ-> auscompgeek: Have you recently put the DV7 into suspend mode, and then resumed?
[12:37] <auscompgeek> TJ-: Perhaps. Could that cause this issue?
[12:37] <texla> Is this the proper command for zeroing a flash drive (dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc1 bs=512 count=1)
[12:37] <iptable> Gabriel_, udev has persistent rules which get auto-updated when network cards get inserted. when you swap one card for another, it confuses things, as wlan0 is now another MAC that persistent rules don't see :/
[12:38] <TJ-> auscompgeek: I've just found an issue caused by suspend for one of the DV7 sub-models, but there are so many hardware variations under that model name it's hard to know. It'd be a simple test to check it though. power off to cold, remove battery (added insurance), then reboot
[12:38] <iptable> Gabriel_, therefore remove (move away from /etc/udev location) the persistent rules file and all show get recreated and work
[12:38] <Gabriel_> iptable: can I resolve this?
[12:38] <iptable> Gabriel_, see my lasts statement just above yours ^
[12:38] <iptable> Gabriel_, of course, reboot fully once the file is moved out of the way
[12:38] <Gabriel_> iptable: will try it now (:
[12:40] <dusf123> histo: i set up the launcher, thanks
[12:40] <dusf123> !intel
[12:40] <histo> dusf123: what are you looking for?
[12:41] <histo> texla: no
[12:41] <histo> texla: that would only write zeros to the first 512 bytes of the first partition on sdc
[12:41] <texla> Is this the proper command for zeroing a flash drive (dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc1 bs=512 count=1)
[12:41] <auscompgeek> TJ-: hmm. might try that later then. getting bluetooth isn't a priority right now, although sleep is.
[12:41] <histo> texla: ^^
[12:42] <texla> histo, this is a  gb unit
[12:42] <texla> 8
[12:42] <histo> texla: if sdc is your flash drive the proper command would be something like dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc bs=64K
[12:42] <histo> texla: what?
[12:43] <histo> texla: my command would destroy all data on the drive. You'd have to re-partition to use it again.
[12:43] <texla> histo, his is an 8gb flash drive
[12:43] <histo> texla: okay.
[12:43] <Gabriel_> iptable: No luck
[12:43] <iptable> Gabriel_, damn, try the sudo dpkg-reconfigure udev
[12:44] <iptable> Gabriel_, and sudo dpkg-reconfigure network-manager
[12:44] <iptable> Gabriel_, now tha the persistance file is gone :)
[12:44] <histo> texla: let me explain the command.. dd is the command if=/dev/zero that tells dd to use /dev/zero as the input.  of=/dev/sdc  that tells dd the output file is /dev/sdc.  bs=64K  that tells dd to use a block size of 64K  to speed the process up.
[12:44] <Gabriel_> iptable: should I remove the persistance file again before doing so?
[12:45] <histo> Gabriel_: it should have remapped the file on boot. double check that it did. If not you may have to add an entry for your macs if reconfigure doesn't.
[12:45] <texla> histo, Okay I got that now thanks
[12:45] <iptable> Gabriel_, no
[12:45] <iptable> Gabriel_, it remapped on boot, which is good now
[12:46] <riply> hi guys, I am looking to chat to someone about hardware vs software raid for a new server I am building up. Any specific warnings on the Ubuntu software RAID?
[12:46] <histo> texla: so you were telling it to write a block size of 512  but only for a count of 1, meaning only the first 512 bytes of sdc1 would get overwritten.
[12:46] <Gabriel_> iptable: rebooting
[12:47] <histo> texla: you could also do something like      yes 'histo rocks' | dd of=/dev/sdc
[12:47] <iptable> riply, yes, it's better than HW raid if you don't have like-for-like HW raid replacement contract
[12:48] <Gabriel_> iptable: no go again
[12:48] <Gabriel_> iptable: ):
[12:48] <texla> histo, Got the first command from wikki ???
[12:48] <iptable> riply, use either good-ol' dmraid, or btrfs with raid1
[12:48] <iptable> Gabriel_, so, when you open network manager, does it show you a list of SSIDs?
[12:48] <iptable> i.e. a list of wireless networks?
[12:49] <histo> texla: You were probably reading about erasing the boot sector
[12:49] <histo> Gabriel_: what version of ubuntu is this?
[12:49] <Gabriel_> histo: lubuntu 14.04
[12:50] <iptable> texla, you want to 0 the whole drive, erase partition table, erase boot sector or delete data in a way it can never be recovered? what is the purpose of the excercise
[12:50] <Gabriel_> histo: no network-manager, but network-admin
[12:50] <iptable> oh
[12:50] <histo> weren't they supposed to stop using persistent names in 14.04?
[12:50] <iptable> it's still network manager in the backend
[12:50] <TJ-> auscompgeek: You know that DMAR error/kernel panic I referred to? Apparently that knocks out some devices that use IOMMU, which could account for the missing BT device
[12:50]  * histo doesn't use ubuntu
[12:50] <iptable> histo, dunno. I know they broke it more :/
[12:51] <iptable> histo, my network cards appear as em1, p1p1 and p1p2, which is expected. but the p1p2 sometimes is renamed to `rename`, or `error`, or `noname` or `eth99`
[12:51] <iptable> go figure
[12:51] <SonikkuAmerica> (( jcastro: With all due respect, sir, I think SASL could help with the changing host message. ))
[12:51] <histo> Gabriel_: does iwlist scan   have any output?
[12:51] <jcastro> hmmm?
[12:51] <iptable> Gabriel_, and on top of iwlist, does the network admin show a list of wireless networks?