[10:27] <mitrovarr> johanbr ann Danl:  thanks for the help guys, I've been asking that all night
[10:28] <Danl> yw
[10:28] <johanbr> mitrovarr: No problem.
[10:28] <Danl> i admit i don't know a whole lot about nix, but that is one of the things i do know :-D
[10:29] <nitrous> theine, could it be something in my httpd.conf or should everything be in there by default cuz i looked in there and that all looks normal?
[10:30] <theine> nitrous, sorry, don't know, i'm no web server expert...
[10:30] <Danl> well im off to tinker, just had to do a full system reisntall, so i gotta lot of packages to download and install, should write a shell script to auto install certian things :-)
[10:30] <mitrovarr> Danl:  there's always automatix
[10:30] <phreaker> !automatix
[10:30] <ubotu> automatix is, like, totally, messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[10:30] <Danl> lol
[10:30] <selinium> nitrous, i have only just joined the conversation, you are installing php5 on apache2 right?
[10:30] <mitrovarr> well, I like it.  It's half an hour to a working system.
[10:30] <Danl> may stick with the bash script idea ;-)
[10:31] <shingouz> Danl: a mental *not* sounds like a good idea
[10:31] <Danl> *note
[10:31] <johanbr> nitrous: I seem to remember someone else having that problem and the solution was reconfiguring apache to allow php scripts in that directory to run.
[10:31] <Danl> thanks amigos
[10:31] <shingouz> the not is better in this case..
[10:31] <Danl> au revior
[10:31] <mitrovarr> it is scary looking though.
[10:31] <robotgeek> Danl:
[10:31] <robotgeek> Danl: heh, hold on :)
[10:31] <Danl> ya?
[10:31] <nitrous> selinium, yes but php4...and apach2 is already on and working properly..i installed php4 just a minute ago...and restarted apache but it still is trying to downoad the .php files
[10:31] <polpak> !easyscript
[10:31] <ubotu> polpak: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[10:32] <nitrous> johanbr, the only way of doing that i know of is in httpd.conf but that all looks normal...i am assuming one of the programs did that for me?
[10:32] <robotgeek> Danl: do you have a installed sytem which you want to restore?
[10:32] <selinium> Did you follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP ?
[10:32] <polpak> or rather
[10:32] <polpak> ubotu tell mitrovarr about easyubuntu
[10:32] <khermans> anyone here fluent in javascript?
[10:32] <johanbr> nitrous: Not necessarily, but I don't know for sure. I'm not an apache expert.
[10:32] <Danl> i just got to gnome, haven't even added first package yet
[10:33] <mitrovarr> that's good to know, although I've already set up all three of my systems with the bad one.
[10:33] <robotgeek> Danl: hmm, okay. look for script at easybreezy.robotgeek.org, or feel free to take ideas from there
[10:33] <nitrous> selinium, no i didn't but i will try that out thanks
[10:33] <Danl> the machine im playing on has a hdd issue where the partition table and data corrupts alot, so i reinstall 3-5 times a month :-D
[10:34] <mitrovarr> Danl:  Man, I'm glad my hard drive doesn't do that
[10:34] <johanbr> Danl: New hard drives are cheap nowadays. :)
[10:34] <robotgeek> Danl: ahh, sneak a peek at the end of the script then :)
[10:34] <polpak> Danl: well you can start with easyubuntu, and then keep a list of the other packages you like and just apt-get them all in one shot
[10:34] <mitrovarr> Danl:  Although mine's got bad sectors and thus is somewhat frightening to use.
[10:34] <Danl> it's a laptop and something with the power connector broke, sent in to have fixed (thank god for warrenties) and ever since the hdd has been stupid
[10:34] <selinium> nitrous, Ok, If I were you sudo dpgk -P php4 apache2 blah blah blah before starting to purge the previous stuff.
[10:35] <robotgeek> Danl: dpkg --get-selections >> file , later sudo dpkg --set-selection < file and sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[10:35] <Danl> k
[10:35] <Danl> thanks guys
[10:35] <Danl> buenos noches
[10:35] <robotgeek> Danl: later
[10:36] <johanbr> Well, gotta go. Good night everyone.
[10:36] <bart1105> hello everyone
[10:37] <Pygi> !ff1.5
[10:37] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:37] <mitrovarr> does anyone know of anything important firefox 1.5 improves?
[10:38] <mitrovarr> I haven't really felt a difference, personally, on the computers I have it on
[10:38] <nitrous> selinium, i tried out that site and still the same thing :S
[10:38] <holy_cow> mitrovarr, really?
[10:38] <holy_cow> here, do this
[10:38] <holy_cow> open ff 1.0.x and open up 100 tabs ....
[10:38] <shindo> re: Firefox 1.5, personally, I think that they've just cleaned up the gui a bit
[10:38] <holy_cow> doesn't matter how, open up a folder with 100 links if you like
[10:39] <holy_cow> watch your cpu/ram consumption
[10:39] <holy_cow> experiment 2:
[10:39] <shindo> tabs can be reorganized, bookmarking tabs is more comfortable, etc
[10:39] <holy_cow> take ff 1.5 and open up 100 tabs
[10:39] <selinium> nitrous, i have used that wiki lots of times with no problems.... :(
[10:39] <holy_cow> watch your cpu/ram remain static
[10:39] <bart1105> anybody familiar with edubuntu?
[10:39] <nitrous> selinium, ya it looks straightforward and i recieved no errors..i dunno why it isn't working :S
[10:39] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  Alright, let me actually try that.  I have 1. 5 on this one
[10:39] <borisattva> has anyone here been able to install network manager?
[10:40] <cyphase> borisattva, me
[10:40] <cyphase> borisattva, on breezy
[10:40] <borisattva> cyphase: what pacakeg did you use to install the dhcdbd?
[10:40] <torben> hello
[10:40] <borisattva> oh.. i'm trying to install it on dapper, and i get programming syntax errors after succesfull configure.
[10:40] <cyphase> borisattva, i just installed the network-manager package..
[10:41] <borisattva> do you remember which repo it was available from?
[10:41] <cyphase> borisattva, universe i think
[10:41] <borisattva> thanks
[10:41] <nitrous> selinium, should the httpd.conf file say anything about php.ini cuz mine doesn't?
[10:41] <mitrovarr> alright, 10 tabs of fark.com on 1.0.7 is taking 109 mb
[10:41] <cyphase> oh wait..
[10:42] <cyphase> borisattva, my mistake
[10:42] <cyphase> i just installed a deb
[10:42] <cyphase> not form a repo
[10:42] <cyphase> from*
[10:42] <selinium> nitrous, I am just re-installing it all myself, one moment...
[10:42] <mitrovarr> it's reading exactly the same on 1.5
[10:42] <nitrous> selinium, thanks
[10:42] <borisattva> oh, ok thanks i'll look for that
[10:44] <floyd_n_milan> will Ubuntu work smoothly, if not fast, on a P3 500 something MHz with 96MB RAM?
[10:44] <holy_cow> floyd_n_milan, no
[10:44] <holy_cow> mitrovarr, i said 100 tabs, not 5, wtf is wrong with you?
[10:44] <holy_cow> lol
[10:44] <holy_cow> its 5 pages of html dude
[10:44] <floyd_n_milan> mhmmm
[10:44] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  I wanted my computers to continue to operate?
[10:44] <holy_cow> try opening up huge volumes of pages with flash too
[10:45] <floyd_n_milan> what Linux should i install on that computer then? :s
[10:45] <holy_cow> mitrovarr, your experiment is useless ... the point is 1.5 has much improved memory handling
[10:45] <holy_cow> and 1.5 will remain completely operational with 100 tabs
[10:45] <holy_cow> even if all of them have flash
[10:45] <holy_cow> floyd_n_milan, as much ram as you can afford
[10:45] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  not on this computer, it's a 800mhz with 256mb of ram.  It would die horribly.
[10:45] <holy_cow> 500 mhz is okay for cpu, you need lots and lots of ram
[10:45] <holy_cow> mite, no it wont
[10:46] <holy_cow> try 1.5
[10:46] <owner> yeah 1.5 is much better
[10:46] <floyd_n_milan> holy_cow, yeah, duh, that's the problem :/
[10:46] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  know a way to open lots of tabs fast, then?
[10:46] <shindo> floyd: mine is running fine on an AMD K-6-2 450mhz
[10:46] <holy_cow> mitrovarr, i told you, middle click on a folder in bookmarks  with lots of links in it
[10:46] <owner> mitro get an rss stream
[10:46] <owner> and open all in tabs
[10:46] <owner> hehe
[10:46] <shindo> I've got more RAM, and the machine isn't fast, but it works just fine
[10:47] <owner> http://news.bbc.co.uk/
[10:47] <shindo> I havn't used GIMP or anything else that really requires a bunch of cycles
[10:47] <holy_cow> what shindo said flodine 500 mhz cpu will be okay, you really need mostly ram ... a faster hd will also improve yoru system drastically without you having to buy a whole new cpu/mobo/ram combination
[10:47] <shindo> as a server it's just dandy
[10:47] <floyd_n_milan> yeah mhmmm
[10:47] <mitrovarr> heh
[10:48] <mitrovarr> just to play, the other day I set up a server on a p166
[10:48] <selinium> nitrous, i am still here.... :)
[10:48] <nitrous> selinium, haha thanks
[10:48] <owner> mitro what kind of server
[10:48] <mitrovarr> owner:  OpenBSD
[10:48] <mitrovarr> owner:  oh, and just apache and ssh, nothing fancy
[10:49] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  wow, it does run well with all those tabs.  I've been being really careful about opening tabs because of how crappy 1.0.7 was with memory
[10:49] <holy_cow> *nod*
[10:49] <holy_cow> :)
[10:49] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  did they fix the memory accumulation thing?
[10:50] <holy_cow> not sure actually, i've never had an issue with that because i always have gigs of ram
[10:50] <selinium> nitrous, no reference to php in httpd.conf
[10:50] <mitrovarr> holy_cow: where it would just accumulate memory as long as you left it open, so you have to close it every once in a while?
[10:50] <nitrous> selinium, i have more progress...lol it is now working..except i have an issue with permissions...
[10:50] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  Ah.  This is kind of a cheap, old computer that I mostly just use to watch internet tv and netsurf, so it feels it when something's eating ram.
[10:50] <holy_cow> mitrovarr, i've always used linux, i've never seen that here i thought that was only a windows thing
[10:50] <nitrous> because index.php every time i create it and then view it the file will try to download..but if i call it anything else like test.php it views perfectly..any ideas?
[10:51] <holy_cow> not always, i mean i've used it for the last couple of years exclusively
[10:51] <selinium> oh, ok, permissions are setup in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[10:51] <nbjayme> hello ppl. I have integrated S3 Unichrome Graphics in Intel P4. I've been following instructions to make ubuntu hoary do direct 3D but nothing seems to work.  please help. :(
[10:51] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  internet TV?  ess.tv can be made to work in linux, the problem is you have to have a playlist, you can't just browse streams
[10:51] <holy_cow> not internet tv, i meant moz ram leak i thought wasonly windows
[10:52] <h2theizzo> hey
[10:52] <h2theizzo> is there anyway i can setup ubuntu to upgrade once a night
[10:52] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  oh, no, it affected me earlier.  I had to reinstall this system to change hard drives, and it quit doing that, but I thought it just hadn't shown up yet.  Really it must have been because when I reinstalled I just went straight to 1.5
[10:52] <h2theizzo> like auto run sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:53] <mitrovarr> h2theizzo:  I suppose you could probably use cron
[10:53] <AMDXP> hi there the forums are down hard
[10:53] <h2theizzo> oh yeah
[10:53] <h2theizzo> whats cron?
[10:53] <bart1105> can anyone help me with edubuntu?
[10:53] <nbjayme> hello ppl. I have integrated S3 Unichrome Graphics in Intel P4. I've been following instructions to make ubuntu hoary do direct 3D but nothing seems to work.  please help. :(
[10:53] <holy_cow> mitrovarr, on linux or windows?
[10:53] <AMDXP> how can install the xubuntu-desktop
[10:53] <mitrovarr> h2theizzo:  it does things on a timed basis, but I don't know how to use it
[10:53] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  linux
[10:53] <floyd_n_milan> we met Mark Shuttleworth yesterday, it was interesting.
[10:53] <holy_cow> ubuntu only has 1.0.x you know
[10:54] <holy_cow> the only way to go to 1.5 is to manually dl and set it up or run some backport or whatever
[10:54] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  Yeah, but I used automatix (didn't know it was bad) and it WILL give you 1.5
[10:54] <owner> yes mitro
[10:54] <owner> it will
[10:54] <holy_cow> wtf is automatix?
[10:54] <robotgeek> !automatix
[10:54] <ubotu> from memory, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[10:54] <h2theizzo> automatic
[10:54] <h2theizzo> spelled funny
[10:54] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  apparently something bad, but I didn't know at the time
[10:54] <h2theizzo> hahaha
[10:54] <h2theizzo> sounds stable
[10:54] <robotgeek> owner: it still uses --force-yes
[10:54] <h2theizzo> sounds as stable as win98
[10:54] <h2theizzo> :\
[10:54] <owner> has that been confirmed robot
[10:55] <mitrovarr> h2theizzo:  I know, but I swear it hasn't caused any (evident) problems for me
[10:55] <AMDXP> i used that to set up a lot of my apps it was in the forum
[10:55] <h2theizzo> ok
[10:55] <h2theizzo> hehe
[10:55] <cyphase> can we get someone to make some really nice sounds for Dapper?
[10:55] <floyd_n_milan> nbjayme, Unichrome... i have the same, i added an NVIDIA card when i found that i couldn't get hardware acceleration working.. though Xorg 7 has improved drivers for that card...
[10:55] <h2theizzo> !cron
[10:55] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what you're talking about, h2theizzo
[10:55] <mitrovarr> h2theizzo:  it is, however, EXTREMELY worrysome looking.  It looks like it was made by a script kiddie.
[10:55] <h2theizzo> hehehe
[10:55] <h2theizzo> !package cron
[10:55] <ubotu> h2theizzo: What?
[10:55] <h2theizzo> hmm
[10:55] <mitrovarr> h2theizzo:  I mean it actually uses 'u' for 'you' in the startup sequence.    It seemed like something that certainly should exist... it allowed you to put nearly every important thing for a desktop system on the computer fast
[11:01] <nitrous> selinium, are you lookin into it?
[11:02] <selinium> nitrous, sorry, you didn't beep me. I didn't hear! :) I am thinking now... :)
[11:02] <ssdo> hello can i ask about gstreamer0.10 in dapper?
[11:02] <nitrous> haha alright thanks
[11:02] <kubiat> yo
[11:02] <holy_cow> mitrovarr, me too, but frankly that is why you have synaptic
[11:02] <kubiat> jest tu kto  z polski jak tak to niech si odedzwie
[11:02] <cyphase> someone give me a random infrastructure idea for Gnome 3
[11:02] <holy_cow> mitrovarr, everything you learned in the windows world should be forgotten simply imho
[11:02] <borisattva> !polish
[11:02] <ubotu> borisattva: Do they come in packets of five?
[11:02] <cyphase> not everything..
[11:02] <borisattva> heh
[11:02] <ssdo> how come i can still see gstreamer0.8 in my synaptic? how do i use gsstreamer.10
[11:03] <Seveas> kubiat, please stick to english in here
[11:03] <hamdan> need help
[11:03] <Seveas> !pl
[11:03] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[11:03] <h2theizzo> so about that cron
[11:03] <Seveas> ssdo, only dapper has 0.10
[11:03] <hamdan> just installed ubuntu
[11:03] <h2theizzo> how could u do like a scheduled task
[11:03] <kubiat> ok
[11:03] <Seveas> h2theizzo, one-time task? use at
[11:03] <h2theizzo> no
[11:03] <h2theizzo> i mean
[11:03] <h2theizzo> once a day
[11:03] <selinium> nitrous, in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf   do you have this line?   DirectoryIndex index.html index.cgi index.pl index.php index.xhtml
[11:03] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  well, windows doesn't even let you do that.  You have to go around and hunt down all the different programs, and use things like realplayer and (ugh) quicktime
[11:04] <Seveas> h2theizzo, man crontab :)
[11:04] <h2theizzo> crontab?
[11:04] <borisattva> speaking of gstreamer. i installed it on breezy via src and my synaptic still shows 8... is that normal? usually what ever i install ends up there
[11:04] <selinium> 'lo Seveas
[11:04] <ssdo> yup i am on dapper right now
[11:04] <Seveas> oi selinium
[11:04] <nitrous> selinium, yes i do
[11:04] <hamdan> just installed on one of my pcs located on a LAN...other pcs are on win xp
[11:04] <_XA_XA_> hahhaah
[11:04] <Seveas> ssdo, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade
[11:04] <ssdo> i dist-upgraded from breezy to dapper
[11:04] <hamdan> cant connect to a local printer
[11:04] <h2theizzo> erm
[11:05] <h2theizzo> contrab -e ssdo, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade
[11:05] <h2theizzo> ?
[11:05] <selinium> nitrous, ok, strange....  and it has index.php    in it?
[11:05] <ssdo> do i have remove gstreamer0.8 to use gstreamer0.10
[11:05] <nitrous> selinium, yes it has it there
[11:05] <h2theizzo> oh nm
[11:05] <h2theizzo> heh
[11:05] <Seveas> h2theizzo, no, that other line was something for ssdo :)
[11:05] <Seveas> ssdo, I would think so, but am not sure
[11:05] <h2theizzo> i am sofa king we tod did
[11:05] <m0ns00n> Hey!
[11:05] <m0ns00n> I am experiencing a bug with firefox running on ubuntu
[11:06] <m0ns00n> The official build
[11:06] <m0ns00n> http://www.sub-ether.org/problem.png
[11:06] <selinium> nitrous , i now you have probably done this houndreds of times but can you      sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart   and try again
[11:06] <m0ns00n> http://www.sub-ether.org/artifact.png
[11:06] <Seveas> m0ns00n, mozilla.org firefox builds are not supported on ubuntu
[11:06] <hamdan> anyone
[11:06] <m0ns00n> Seveas: it must be a gtk related problem
[11:06] <m0ns00n> Perhaps
[11:06] <selinium> !enter
[11:06] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[11:07] <m0ns00n> Seveas: Sure, but the problem might still be in Ubuntu.
[11:07] <Seveas> m0ns00n, i see no bug in that small image...
[11:07] <m0ns00n> Seveas: As it's not reproducable on all other systems.
[11:07] <nitrous> selinium, i tried and its still doin it
[11:07] <m0ns00n> Yes, one of them has a 1 px space
[11:07] <selinium> ok
[11:07] <m0ns00n> Which happens when I hover with the mouse over
[11:07] <m0ns00n> And it also happens on www.mozilla.com and other sites
[11:07] <m0ns00n> Very annoying, the images move
[11:08] <selinium> nitrous, pm?
[11:08] <m0ns00n> Also the text in the tabs move
[11:08] <Seveas> m0ns00n, never happened to me with ubuntu builds of firefox
[11:08] <m0ns00n> Try to find somebody it did happen with ;)
[11:08] <nitrous> selinium, if pm means private messaging yes sure but i dont know how
[11:08] <hamdan> the problem is, ive just installed ubuntu on one of my pc's located on a LAN (other pcs are win xp based). the installation went well, however i cant seem to print on a printer attached to one of the other pcs. can anyone help?
[11:08] <m0ns00n> bbl
[11:09] <selinium> nitrous, are you using xchat?
[11:09] <mitrovarr> hamdan:  is the printer shared using windows file/network sharing or a networked printer?
[11:10] <jbzz> hamdan:    Maybe I can help sir
[11:10] <hamdan> mitrovarr: its just using windows file/network/printer sharing
[11:10] <hamdan> thanks jbzz
[11:10] <mitrovarr> hamdan:  ok.  Go to system -> administration -> printing, then 'new printer'
[11:11] <mailo> mailo
[11:11] <selinium> nitrous, hello.... :)
[11:11] <mitrovarr> hamdan:  Then select 'network printer' and change the option box from CUPS to Windows Printer (smb)
[11:11] <h2theizzo> hey
[11:12] <mitrovarr> hamdan:  Hopefully the samba shares on the network will appear and you can find your printer and connect to it.  And hope there's a driver for it, because linux printer support is not total.
[11:12] <ashrack> on my notebook which is Cel 2400,512MB RAM and a 40GB 4300RPM hdd I get very slugish GNOME. I have to wait for 5secs to even open nautilus. Is this sluggish behaviour because of the slow RPM hdd? And would it help if I were to use XFCE? DMA is enabled and the PIIX UDMA controller is compiled into the kernel
[11:12] <h2theizzo> if u setup the crontab, to run daily at 2300 hours, like apt-update and apt-upgrade,wouldnt it have to read sudo apt-upgrade n stuff,so i would have to be here for it right?
[11:12] <nitrous> selinium, yes i am using xchat
[11:12] <netstar> Where can I get KDE 3.5 from for ubuntu?
[11:12] <selinium> nitrous, Ok do a    ls -a /var/www     and paste your result in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:13] <h2theizzo> apt-get install kde
[11:13] <nitrous> selinium, i got your pm and replied back but i'm assuming you aren't getting them?
[11:13] <netstar> h2theizzo, isn't that an older version than 3.5?
[11:13] <h2theizzo> lemmy c
[11:13] <rraajj> Hi all! What do I have to do to solve the "error: C compiler cannot create executables" problem when compiling?
[11:13] <selinium> nitrous, we can not pm as you need to have your nick registered
[11:13] <h2theizzo> well either way
[11:13] <jbzz> hamdan:  What is sharing the printer?  XP ?
[11:13] <hamdan> mitrovarr : i have done all that i i have an icon in my printer window indicating the printer as ready, however when i try to print the printer does not print.
[11:13] <h2theizzo> nitrous,you could probly enable the repository
[11:13] <h2theizzo> and get the one not recommended
[11:14] <h2theizzo> u tried kubuntu?
[11:14] <nitrous> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7509
[11:14] <h2theizzo> its kde lovers version
[11:14] <netstar> h2theizzo, nope.
[11:14] <mitrovarr> hamdan:  So the driver list had the driver for your printer, right?
[11:14] <nitrous> selinium, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7509
[11:14] <olicat> hi all, my server just locked up. in the apache logs i see this a few times: Ouch!  malloc failed in malloc_block()
[11:14] <selinium> Seveas, how do I start a channel and invite someone who doesn't have their nick registered for pm type work?
[11:14] <hamdan> jbzz: all pc's on my network share the printer..yes all xp
[11:14] <olicat> any ideas what that means?
[11:14] <olicat> no memory/swap, maybe?
[11:14] <hamdan> mitrovarr : yes
[11:14] <nitrous> selinium, they all work except index.php
[11:14] <hamdan> mitrovarr : laserjet-4-plus
[11:14] <selinium> nitrous, oops,    ls -l /var/www    sorry
[11:15] <AMDXP> i installed the xubuntu desktop i just have to reboot correct and it should come up
[11:15] <jbzz> hamdan:  I have a Windows 2000 Pro in the basement that shares a printer.  My Ubuntu system is in another room.  I am on the Ubuntu system now.
[11:15] <mitrovarr> hamdan:  Hmm...  What are you trying to print with?  I can't get some programs to print, like the ones use gimp-print
[11:15] <nitrous> selinium, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7510
[11:15] <jbzz> hamdan:  Have you tried to creat a priner on the Ubuntu system that connects to the share on the XP machine?
[11:16] <h2theizzo> is the .conf setup right for that dir?
[11:16] <h2theizzo> nitrous
[11:16] <h2theizzo> my kde is installed its version 5.44
[11:16] <nitrous> h2theizzo, i have no idea lol
[11:16] <h2theizzo> and thats under ubuntu
[11:16] <hamdan> jbzz: no im trying to connect the ubuntu system to the printer on the xp system
[11:16] <nitrous> h2theizzo, yes its under ubuntu and it does have it set to include index.php for index but i dunno about the rest
[11:17] <mitrovarr> hamdan:  It might help if you went over to the XP system and watched the print monitor as you tried to print, that'll show you if your computer is seeing the share and sending data
[11:17] <jbzz> hamdan:  Right, I understand.  But have you tried to create a printer connection on the Ubuntu machine  that connects to the XP printer?
[11:17] <hamdan> mitrovarr: im just trying to print from ubuntu..some office docs etc
[11:18] <h2theizzo> ok
[11:18] <h2theizzo> but
[11:18] <mitrovarr> hamdan:  I'm out of ideas, then.  I have gotten samba printing working in ubuntu, so it's not broken.
[11:18] <h2theizzo> sorry about the enter :( but did u install apache2-php?
[11:18] <ashrack> notebook:Cel 2400,512MB RAM,40GB 4300RPM hdd I get very slugish GNOME. I have to wait for 5secs to even open nautilus. Is this behaviour because of the slow RPM hdd?Would it help if I were to use XFCE? DMA is enabled and the PIIX UDMA controller is compiled into the kernel
[11:18] <nitrous> h2theizzo, php is all working..just the index.php wont let you view it just tries to download...like test.php for example will work
[11:18] <chemical_ds> Hi. Is there any way i can view the boot messages once my computer has already started?
[11:18] <h2theizzo> wow
[11:19] <jbzz> hamdan:  I understand.  But have you attempted to create a printer on the Ubuntu system yet that connects to the XP system?
[11:19] <h2theizzo> is the site where i can access it?
[11:19] <h2theizzo> maybe its your browser>
[11:19] <mitrovarr> hamdan:  Your printer has 4 different drivers available in the printer dialogs, maybe you should try another?
[11:19] <jbzz> hamdan:  System   -   Administration  - Printing
[11:19] <nitrous> h2theizzo, no i'm behind a router nd it would take too long to configure to go to this machine
[11:19] <h2theizzo> yeah s alright
[11:19] <h2theizzo> maybe your browser dont support php? its doubtfull but.. maybe thats why its trying to dl it
[11:19] <nitrous> h2theizzo and selinium, any ideas?
[11:20] <nitrous> it does support php though becasue test.php works...
[11:20] <mitrovarr> hamdan:  after you select your printer from the list, you can choose a different driver for that specific printer from the dialog box under the list.  It's certainly worth trying to others to see if one of them works.
[11:20] <h2theizzo> ok
[11:20] <h2theizzo> i dont know,i just givin thoughts man :P
[11:20] <nitrous> haha aight
[11:20] <hamdan> ok
[11:20] <h2theizzo> thinkgs i would check if mine didnt work anyways
[11:20] <hamdan> i'll try it..btw i love ubuntu..this is great!
[11:20] <nitrous> selinium, you still here?
[11:21] <selinium> nitrous, so testphp.php works, but index.php doesn't?    try looking up index.php?
[11:21] <h2theizzo> nitrous mines up,but the page sucks, http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[11:21] <jbzz> hamdan:  Yes I have come to appreciiate Ubuntu after trying others.
[11:21] <hamdan> good job to everyone involve in this..!!!!
[11:21] <selinium> nitrous, with the '?'
[11:21] <nitrous> lol http://localhost/index.php? works
[11:21] <nitrous> selinium, what does that mean since index.php? works?
[11:22] <selinium> nitrous, browser cacheing!
[11:22] <h2theizzo> nitrous,if u know how to do html,maybe you can make index.html redirect to index.php
[11:22] <nitrous> POS lol
[11:22] <jbzz> hamdan:  Do not be surprised if the connection fails.  There are round about ways to attack the problem.
[11:23] <sugoruyo> is there any chance ubuntu or linux for that matter
[11:23] <nitrous> selinium, thank you so much that was all it was
[11:23] <sugoruyo> is incompatible with my network card?
[11:23] <selinium> nitrous, all you needed to do was do a Ctrl-F5 for a browser refresh. You will get this kind of thing all the time when web dev'ing
[11:23] <h2theizzo> what kind of network card, most are
[11:23] <mitrovarr> sugoruyo:  it's possible, I've heard there's a couple that don't work still
[11:23] <osfameron> any suggestions on what do do when my USB mouse hangs regularly
[11:24] <h2theizzo> i have like 6 network cards,all work fine,different brands too
[11:24] <osfameron> (Breezy)
[11:24] <nitrous> selinium, ya i should have known just wasn't thinkin...thanks you so much
[11:24] <h2theizzo> osfameron mine does too,it laggs around the screen real bad
[11:24] <osfameron> unplug and plugin works ok, but kindof annyoing
[11:24] <selinium> nitrous, NP glad we worked it out, I was going crazy!
[11:24] <osfameron> h2theizzo: in my case the lag isn't too bad, but it just stops occasionally
[11:24] <nitrous> selinium, you weren't the only one...but i gotta go to sleep now though...i work in 7 hours and still gotta sleep before then so thanks again...maybe i'll talk to ya another time
[11:25] <sugoruyo> i have an MSI 865PE-Neo2V mainboard the onboard ethernet gets detected and all by linux but it won't work
[11:25] <h2theizzo> lol i dont know wich is worst, when i move mine it twitches real bad,so i move it to far,or not far enough,takes forever to get to where i want to click
[11:25] <selinium> ok nitrous, i have gotta go too, see ya around! :)
[11:25] <sugoruyo> other distros will work with the LAN but not the inet
[11:25] <sugoruyo> other won't work at all
[11:25] <h2theizzo> sugoruyo maybe it needs to be configed with the right ip's/dns/gateways
[11:25] <mitrovarr> sugoruyo:  Sure it's not just a bad network configuration?
[11:25] <Ismael> is the gimp preconfonfigured in such way the conf wizard is not launched the first time?
[11:25] <h2theizzo> im on a dsl router,so  ihave to manually enter all that
[11:25] <sugoruyo> it is
[11:25] <osfameron> !mouse
[11:25] <ubotu> mouse is, like, totally, Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev
[11:26] <sugoruyo> yeah me too
[11:26] <sugoruyo> i have done so
[11:26] <sugoruyo> but still no connection
[11:26] <h2theizzo> who is your provider?
[11:26] <sugoruyo> my ISP you mean?
[11:26] <osfameron> bah, ubuntuforums not working
[11:26] <h2theizzo> yeah
[11:26] <osfameron> !usb
[11:26] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, osfameron
[11:26] <mshade> you can mount SMB shares easily in ubuntu, is there an NFS mounting utility?
[11:26] <h2theizzo> yeah NFS is on ubuntu
[11:26] <sugoruyo> you wouldn't know them... i'm in greece
[11:26] <h2theizzo> k
[11:27] <hamdan> jbzz: how do i know if i have my ubuntu system prperly set up on my network?
[11:27] <mshade> i have a file server set up as samba and NFS, but i'd prefer to access it as a part of my filesystem rather than through smb:// hooks
[11:27] <sugoruyo> the thing is sometimes ubuntu won't even ping the router
[11:27] <h2theizzo> mine was a pain in the butt to setup,took a while to figure out,but.. maybe could help
[11:27] <mshade> is there a way?
[11:27] <h2theizzo> does yours run Nat?
[11:27] <h2theizzo> !nat
[11:27] <ubotu> h2theizzo: I give up, what is it?
[11:27] <mshade> !nfs
[11:27] <ubotu> from memory, nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[11:27] <sugoruyo> i'm not sure
[11:27] <sugoruyo> i think so
[11:27] <h2theizzo> ok the computers on your lan,do they come up with ips like 192.168.#.#
[11:27] <orion_fr_24>  how can I add virtual folder to proftpd ?
[11:28] <jbzz> hamdan:  Well actually that depends on what you have got set up.  Sometimes firewalls, etc. will make you go crazy.
[11:28] <troop> hi. i get an boot error... inode 3696285 has illegal blocks ..unexpected inconsistency. run fsck manually...fsck failed ...etc...etc....what is it?and what can i do ?
[11:28] <sugoruyo> i have static IPs assigned by hand in the LAN
[11:28] <h2theizzo> yeah thats fine
[11:28] <C2ODe> how to restore Uslash after compiling a vanilla kernel 2.6.15-1?
[11:28] <h2theizzo> whatever u set them at
[11:28] <h2theizzo> did u set your nix box the same ip?
[11:28] <jbzz> hamdan:  Your IP numbers must be similar, your hosts file or DHCP has to be set up properly, etc.
[11:29] <hamdan> jbzz: well no, all firewall turned off...basically its one pc running on ubuntu and 4 others on xp on a LAN
[11:29] <sugoruyo> i set it to the IP it's supposed to have
[11:29] <Ismael> guys, we are working in the manual for an ubuntu derivate, anybody knows such detail about gimp?
[11:29] <h2theizzo> then your subnet should be <IP_ADDRESS>, the gateway should be the IP of your DSL box, like mines <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:29] <sugoruyo> i know
[11:29] <h2theizzo> then the dns ips are my isps dns ips
[11:29] <AMDXP> anyone know how to start beem media player from xterm???
[11:29] <sugoruyo> all the IPs are configured
[11:29] <h2theizzo> ok
[11:29] <jbzz> hamdan:  That would help.  Sometimes a pind to another machine will instill confidence.
[11:29] <h2theizzo> hah u know what,do you have firewire on that pc?
[11:29] <sugoruyo> machine, gateway, the two DNSs
[11:29] <h2theizzo> the 1394 adapters
[11:29] <sugoruyo> nope
[11:29] <jbzz> hamdan:   a 'ping'  I meant
[11:29] <h2theizzo> do u have any other type of connection?
[11:30] <sugoruyo> nope
[11:30] <h2theizzo> id make sure that eth0 is the default
[11:30] <shindo> anybody know if I can use bind9 to update a dynamic ip? (e.g. dyndns)
[11:30] <hamdan> jbzz : how do i initiate a ping? do u mind teaching me?
[11:30] <sugoruyo> it's the only one
[11:30] <h2theizzo> wow
[11:30] <h2theizzo> my prob was i had the 1394,didnt see it at first hadda disable it
[11:30] <h2theizzo> you happen to have another network card u could put in there n try out?
[11:31] <jbzz> hamdan:  Basically you go to a 'terminal' session and type   ping  <IP_ADDRESS>    ro whatever the IP is for another machine in the office.
[11:31] <sugoruyo> not right now
[11:31] <h2theizzo> k
[11:31] <shindo> hamdan: $ ping <address>
[11:31] <h2theizzo> run the terminal, do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:31] <jbzz> hamdan:  You should get something that indicates it 'got a reply'
[11:31] <h2theizzo> see if it says ok, or failed
[11:31] <hamdan> ok ill try that
[11:31] <hamdan> brb
[11:31] <shindo> ctrl-c to stop
[11:31] <sugoruyo> i'm on a mac
[11:31] <sugoruyo> right now
[11:32] <jbzz> hamdan:  Do you have DHCP set up to issue IP numbers?
[11:32] <sugoruyo> the ubuntu machine is running
[11:32] <h2theizzo> oh,the pc isnt near you?
[11:32] <h2theizzo> thats fine
[11:32] <sugoruyo> i ping the ubuntu machine from the mac
[11:32] <h2theizzo> it wont hurt the ubuntu box
[11:32] <sugoruyo> it's on the same desk
[11:32] <h2theizzo> k
[11:32] <sugoruyo> it responds
[11:32] <h2theizzo> really
[11:32] <h2theizzo> theres something there thne,i think its trying to look up off something else other then the network card
[11:32] <h2theizzo> or thats what it seems like its acting like
[11:33] <h2theizzo> u have the ubuntu firewall installed or sumthin?
[11:33] <sugoruyo> no
[11:33] <sugoruyo> just installed
[11:33] <h2theizzo> can you ssh into the box?
[11:33] <sugoruyo> tried to hit update
[11:33] <sugoruyo> is it installed by default?
[11:33] <sugoruyo> how do i use it
[11:33] <h2theizzo> i dont remember
[11:33] <h2theizzo> heh
[11:34] <sugoruyo> i can ping from the ubuntu
[11:34] <sugoruyo> to the mac
[11:34] <sugoruyo> ok
[11:34] <sugoruyo> i can ping the router
[11:34] <sugoruyo> ok
[11:34] <h2theizzo> and it responds?
[11:34] <sugoruyo> i ping some address which i think is the NAT
[11:34] <sugoruyo> and it also responds
[11:34] <sugoruyo> but pinging something like a website it won't
[11:34] <h2theizzo> hmm is your synaptic setup to download off the US servers?
[11:34] <h2theizzo> maybe it cant reach there
[11:35] <mitrovarr> well, I'm out of here.  Goodnight, all
[11:35] <h2theizzo> night
[11:35] <sugoruyo> pinging www.ubuntulinux.org works
[11:35] <sugoruyo> pinging most greek sites doesn't
[11:35] <sugoruyo> trying to load pages in firefox doesn't
[11:35] <sugoruyo> wtf?!
[11:36] <sugoruyo> this is beyond weird
[11:36] <h2theizzo> can u use irssi or xchat and get on irc
[11:36] <sugoruyo> ok now it's updating the list of packages from the repos....
[11:36] <sugoruyo> i don't get this
[11:37] <sugoruyo> some boots work fine
[11:37] <sugoruyo> some don't
[11:37] <sugoruyo> i need my pills
[11:37] <sugoruyo> :D
[11:37] <orion_fr_24> how can I update my breezy  to dapper ???
[11:37] <sugoruyo> i'll try to see what's causing this later
[11:37] <sugoruyo> thx tho
[11:37] <ashrack> on my notebook which is Cel 2400,512MB RAM and a 40GB 4300RPM hdd I get very slugish GNOME. I have to wait for 5secs to even open nautilus. Is this sluggish behaviour because of the slow RPM hdd? And would it help if I were to use XFCE? DMA is enabled and the PIIX UDMA controller is compiled into the kernel
[11:37] <sugoruyo> gtg
[11:38] <JaneW> does anyone here know what is going on with the forums?
[11:38] <h2theizzo> servers moving
[11:38] <ashrack> jane theyr being moved
[11:38] <ssdo> yeah, the forums are down
[11:38] <JaneW> oic, thanks
[11:38] <ssdo> when are the forums be back
[11:38] <JaneW> anyone have details? Who, when, where etc?
[11:39] <ssdo> is there a channel for dapper?
[11:39] <JaneW> ssdo: what specifically?
[11:39] <Fr> io
[11:39] <JaneW> ssdo: #ubuntu-devel deals with current development, which is Dapper atm..
[11:39] <ssdo> i am testing dapper flight 3 and i want to ask about gstreamer .10
[11:39] <Ng> orion_fr_24: I'd suggest that if you need to ask, you probably don't want to ;)
[11:39] <JaneW> ssdo: try asking there
[11:40] <grap> hello
[11:40] <Fr> im getting linux at schoool at the moment ! boorig
[11:40] <Madeye> guys, moving files from ext2/3 to rieserfs will currept them?
[11:40] <orion_fr_24> Ng: could you answer me please instead of mocking
[11:40] <ssdo> how implemented is gstreamer0.10 in dapper flight3? I have in my synaptic both gstreamer0.8 and the gstreamer0.10, which among them i am using?
[11:41] <Ng> orion_fr_24: I'm not mocking, I'm advisint
[11:41] <grap> im trying to compile bmpx and i need some libraries that I can find, but the problem comes when I try to install fam, this program wants to eliminate about 250 mb
[11:41] <orion_fr_24> Ng: will I find an update option during install
[11:41] <owner> you dont need fam if you have gam grap
[11:41] <AMDXP> brb
[11:41] <grap> I think i chose the wrong lib
[11:41] <grap> owner, what?
[11:41] <owner> gamin
[11:41] <Ng> orion_fr_24: if you really want to, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace breezy with dapper, but be aware that it can and probably will break a bunch of times between now and release and you are unlikely to get much help fixing it
[11:42] <owner> its the file monitoring system
[11:42] <owner> like fam
[11:42] <grap> owner, i have it installe
[11:42] <grap> d
[11:42] <h2theizzo> is dapper the next release?
[11:42] <h2theizzo> !dapper
[11:42] <ubotu> dapper is probably The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[11:42] <h2theizzo> Ng,will it be easy to update to dapper when it is released?
[11:42] <Ng> h2theizzo: yes :)
[11:43] <h2theizzo> like can i do apt-upgrade
[11:43] <grap> bmpx says that it needs fam.h
[11:43] <Ng> h2theizzo: yep
[11:43] <h2theizzo> ive never upgraded a linux before
[11:43] <grap> configure: error: "Cannot find FAM"
[11:43] <h2theizzo> always did a fresh install
[11:43] <orion_fr_24> Ng: how can I update now ?
[11:43] <h2theizzo> its not suggested
[11:43] <h2theizzo> :\
[11:43] <grap> orion_fr_24, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:43] <hamdan> jbzz: dhcp set up?
[11:43] <Ng> grap: you may need to install libgamin-dev
[11:43] <grap> Ng, i'll try
[11:43] <orion_fr_24> grap:  ok thx
[11:44] <jbzz> hamdan:  Do you have a way of issuing IP numbers in the office there?
[11:44] <hamdan> all on auto
[11:44] <jbzz> hamdan:  Or do you just pick numbers and use them?
[11:44] <h2theizzo> i find if i use random numbers it works better
[11:44] <h2theizzo> 69.420.187.666
[11:45] <hamdan> jbzz : auto assign ip's
[11:45] <h2theizzo> bhahaha
[11:45] <h2theizzo> bbl thanks :P
[11:45] <grap> Ng, it worked
[11:45] <grap> XD
[11:45] <jbzz> hamdan:  OK.   Then you can ping another machine by using the IP number or the name of the machine.
[11:45] <dbglt> hi all, I've just installed ubuntu onto my other machine, but I need a package for it to connect to the internet
[11:45] <jbzz> hamdan:  Can you ping the machine that is sharing the printer?
[11:45] <dbglt> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/eciadsl - that is the package I need. Is there a way to download it in advance?
[11:46] <olicat> hi folks. i've ordered a new mac book pro. what do you reckon the odds are of the mouse working properly with ubuntu? :) (ie 1 finger moves the mouse, 2 fingers control vert/horiz scrolling)
[11:46] <dbglt> it is part of "universe"
[11:46] <dbglt> no matter, found out how!
[11:47] <hamdan> jbzz : how do i ' ping' using the computer name ?
[11:47] <CompShrink> is the forum down, or is it on my end?
[11:47] <jbzz> hamdan:   Assume one computer (XP) is named 'Unit-2'   then you type     ping unit-2
[11:47] <perrie> hello all
[11:48] <hamdan> from here?
[11:48] <hamdan> from this window u mean?
[11:48] <liable> hamdan: that name has to be in your host file though for it to work.
[11:48] <hamdan> yeah
[11:48] <jbzz> hamdan:  The name unit-2 should get translated to a number automatically then the number is used to reach the machine called   unit-2
[11:49] <perrie> I have installed a ssh-server on my machine is it only a matter of closeing the firewall to connect from a remote machine
[11:49] <hamdan> jbzz: where do i do this ping?
[11:49] <CompShrink> hamdan, type that in a console, not in irc
[11:49] <jbzz> hamdan:  Start up a 'terminal' window
[11:50] <cyphase> what's this about Google developing their own version of ubuntu? "Goobuntu"
[11:50] <jbzz> hamdan:  Application  -  Accessories  -  Terminal
[11:50] <hamdan> ok
[11:50] <hamdan> hamdan@etsb03:~$
[11:51] <AMDXP> oh well so much for that
[11:52] <AMDXP> my xfce4 is foobared
[11:52] <hamdan> iunknown host
[11:52] <owner> how?
[11:52] <hamdan> unknown host
[11:52] <jbzz> hamdan:   Sounds like you cannot translate the name to an IP number.
[11:52] <AMDXP> i changed the display and i couldnt change it back it was unreadable
[11:52] <AMDXP> i tried to uninstall it and reinstall it
[11:53] <AMDXP> and its still foobared
[11:53] <jbzz> hamdan:   Try to ping to the IP number   as in     ping   <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:54] <hamdan> my computer name etsb03, when i typed ping etsb03 its pinging
[11:54] <hamdan> hamdan@etsb03:~$ ping etsb03
[11:54] <jbzz> hamdan:   Yes you can ping yourself.
[11:55] <hamdan> jbzz : how do i stop pinging myseld :)
[11:55] <CompShrink> hamdan, what os is the other comp on?
[11:55] <jbzz> hamdan: Try control-c
[11:55] <hamdan> compsrink : xp
[11:55] <CompShrink> k, then go start>run and type in command
[11:55] <CompShrink> hit enter
[11:55] <CompShrink> type ipconfig /all
[11:55] <CompShrink> hit enter
[11:56] <CompShrink> it will list your IP
[11:56] <CompShrink> then try pinging that
[11:56] <CompShrink> gtg to dinner, good lick
[11:56] <CompShrink> *luck
[11:56] <hamdan> ok
[11:56] <CompShrink> and will someone tell me if the forum is down, or if it's just me?
[11:56] <hamdan> its down
[11:56] <Seveas> !forumdown
[11:56] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Seveas
[11:56] <Seveas> !kill
[11:56] <hamdan> went there before here..
[11:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, kill is a command for getting rid of unwanted processes, usage: kill [-signal]  PID.  Signals are numbers: -15 is general exit, -9 forces quit.  See manual page for more.
[11:56] <Seveas> !listvals forum
[11:57] <hamdan> how do i get the ip add of that particular comp?
[11:57] <Seveas> !forumsdown
[11:57] <ubotu> ubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)
[11:57] <Seveas> !forget shawkins
[11:57] <ubotu> i forgot shawkins, Seveas
[11:57] <hamdan> do i just type ipconfig ?
[11:57] <jbzz> hamdan:   On the XP machine you can start up a command window and type   ipconfig   I believe and it should scroll something up.
[11:58] <hamdan> hang on jbzz let me try that
[11:58] <Seveas> since when do we support windows in here?
[11:58] <jbzz> hamdan:   Yes.   On the Ubuntu machine type    ifconfig      a little different.
[11:59] <hamdan> sorry guys, they are just helping the idiot here ..
[11:59] <hamdan> <--idiot
[11:59] <hamdan> im learning
[11:59] <pmallapp> hi all
[11:59] <Seveas> hi pmallapp
[11:59] <pmallapp> ubuntu forums connection refused >?
[11:59] <Seveas> !forumsdown
[11:59] <ubotu> ubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)
[12:00] <pmallapp> Thanks Sevas
[12:00] <Stevis2002> Hi all
[12:00] <Seveas> hi
[12:00] <Stevis2002> Can anybody tell me if they know of an Inventory/Stock Control application for Linux please? I use ubuntu
[12:00] <ReverendGoatse> looool no
[12:01] <Stevis2002> short & sweet :)
[12:01] <Stevis2002> Thanks
[12:01] <Seveas> ReverendGoatse, ?
[12:01] <ReverendGoatse> yes'm?
[12:02] <Stevis2002> anyone else know of any?
[12:02] <Seveas> there exist inventory and stock control programs for linux...
[12:02] <Stevis2002> All i need is to be able to adjust the stock level and put in the location of the product
[12:02] <Seveas> Don't know about free oness though
[12:02] <Stevis2002> yeah, but i'm after one which doesn't cost $500+
[12:03] <Stevis2002> Possibly a really stupid question, but, can programs for windows be run on linux?
[12:04] <Seveas> Via wine it may be possible
[12:04] <Seveas> http://www.tucows.com/preview/339559 <-- That was the stock control thing I knew
[12:04] <Stevis2002> how do i install wine from ubuntu?
[12:04] <AMDXP> Stevis2002: some can
[12:04] <Seveas> apt-get install wine
[12:04] <Stevis2002> ah-ha...thank you very much
[12:04] <Stevis2002> i will try
[12:05] <Stevis2002> do you just install the program as if it was windows then...i.e....double click it?
[12:05] <Seveas> Stevis2002, google also brought up this: http://www.midwestlinux.com/products/appgen/iv.html
[12:05] <ompaul> Stevis2002, in some cases they wil work with wine, in other cases a commerical program called Cegeda may help, you need to put "sudo" in front of Seveas's command there :) as long as you have the universe repos installed
[12:05] <Seveas> Stevis2002, once you installed wine you can run windows installers
[12:05] <Nameeater> !mp3
[12:05] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:05] <ompaul> !tell Stevis2002 about universe
[12:05] <hamdan> jbzz : ok got the ip add
[12:05] <Stevis2002> ah right...thanks
[12:05] <DerLandi> moin moin!
[12:06] <Stevis2002> btw...the stock control program you pointed me to was for windows
[12:06] <ompaul> question, how do I get abiword to see a dictionary?
[12:06] <hamdan> jbzz : i'm getting a response
[12:06] <DerLandi> #j ubuntu_de
[12:06] <jbzz> hamdan:   Super.
[12:06] <ompaul> DerLandi, morgen :)
[12:06] <rraajj> Is ubuntuforums still down?
[12:06] <Stevis2002> Right then...Thanks all, i shall try that
[12:06] <jbzz> hamdan:   That proves some type of connection is being made.
[12:06] <DerLandi> hab mal ne "plde" frage, kann mir jemand nen command sagen, mit dem ich an de konsole die belegung meiner pladden auslesen kann?
[12:07] <ompaul>  /join #ubuntu-de
[12:07] <Stevis2002> Also, i have installed my epson alll in one....i think, but how do i install the scanner part of it?
[12:07] <hamdan> jbzz : great!!
[12:07] <DerLandi> @opmaul ahh! so wars, stimmt! lang net mehr hier gewesen, sry und thx! :D
[12:07] <jbzz> hamdan:   On the Ubuntu machine you should try to add a printer.
[12:07] <ompaul> DerLandi,  kp
[12:08] <ompaul> Stevis2002, the main program is called sane
[12:08] <Stevis2002> do i just apt-get sane then?
[12:08] <jbzz> hamdan:     It should point to the share name of the XP system.  The printer share name you gave the sharepoint.
[12:08] <jbzz> hamdan:   System    -    Administration   -   Printing
[12:08] <Stevis2002> ok, thanks all
[12:09] <Stevis2002> bye for now :)
[12:09] <jbzz> hamdan:     New printer.
[12:09] <frogzoo> hot damn ff1.5 is fast - well worth the upgrade
[12:10] <jbzz> hamdan:   Network Printer           and     select   Windows Printer (SMB) where it shows CUPS printer.
[12:12] <hamdan> at the driver it shows [postcript (recommended) (suggested) button and a install driver button
[12:13] <jbzz> hamdan:   Take the recommended selection for now.
[12:13] <eps> here is an odd request...I  have a huge file (just under half a million lines) and I need to find out how many spaces there are :|  ...can any one suggest some thing
[12:13] <hamdan> jbzz : ok
[12:13] <Nameeater> how do you share a printer between two linux pcs?
[12:13] <hamdan> jbzz do click 'apply' or click on the install driver button?
[12:14] <jbzz> hamdan:  Click apply.
[12:14] <hamdan> ok laserjet-4-plus icon ready in my printers setting
[12:14] <ompaul> Stevis2002, sudo apt-get install sane<< again you need universe
[12:14] <hamdan> printing a test page
[12:15] <senectus> Guys I have a non CSS (non retail) DVD that the boss has asked me to convert into a mpeg so he can incorporate it in a powerpoint pres.. is there any way to do this in Linux??
[12:15] <jbzz> hamdan:   OK.  Give it a try.   If it fails we can try modifying a file.
[12:15] <hamdan> Letter test page has been sent to LaserJet-4-Plus.
[12:15] <hamdan> jbzz : no print
[12:15] <frogzoo> eps, something like sed -e 's/[^ ] /g' | wc    should do it
[12:15] <jbzz> hamdan:   Right.  Typical.  Thee is a file we can look at.
[12:15] <selinium> ompaul Stevis2002 : you get xsane installed under Applications/Graphics...
[12:15] <Ng> senectus: the dvdrip package is ok
[12:16] <jbzz> hamdan:     /etc/cups/printers.conf
[12:16] <selinium> ompaul, He has gone...
[12:16] <ompaul> selinium, IO noted :)
[12:16] <ompaul> selinium, oi even noted :)
[12:16] <hamdan> jbzz : and where do i type that?
[12:16] <ompaul> woite back to trying to get this job done
[12:17] <senectus> Ng thanks
[12:17] <hamdan> jbzz : where do i type /etc/cups/printers.conf  ?
[12:17] <jbzz> hamdan:     Ouch!   In the terminal you can    cd    to that directory.      so type in that terminal window    cd  /etc/cups
[12:18] <jbzz> hamdan:   Then we want to look at the contents of the file of interest.    So type   cat printers.conf
[12:19] <eps> frogzoo thanks :)
[12:19] <hamdan> hamdan@etsb03:~$ cd ?
[12:19] <jbzz> hamdan:      cd    /etc/cups
[12:20] <hamdan> amdan@etsb03:/etc/cups$
[12:20] <jbzz> hamdan:     Super.    now type     cat   printers.conf
[12:21] <hamdan> cat: printers.conf: Permission denied
[12:21] <jbzz> hamdan:   try      sudo cat printers.conf
[12:22] <hamdan> password?
[12:22] <jbzz> hamdan:   Try your own password
[12:22] <hamdan> ok
[12:22] <tonix> hi guys, i don't hake the lp command on my ubuntu dekstop. What is the package i need to install to have the lp command? thanks
[12:23] <tonix> ..sorry , i don't have..
[12:23] <jbzz> hamdan:   Look for a line that starts with    DeviceURI smb ...
[12:23] <hamdan> done
[12:23] <nubuntu> anyone who can help me getting privoxy to work? seems it cant find the config file
[12:23] <hamdan> its there
[12:23] <drummer87> any news on what's happening with the forums?? they've been down a couple days now
[12:24] <hamdan> DeviceURI smb://hamdan:xxxxx@ETSB04/Printer
[12:24] <Ng> drummer87: they're being moved apparently, should be back later
[12:24] <jbzz> hamdan:     OK.   Let me look at what you have shown.
[12:24] <drummer87> ic
[12:24] <hamdan> State Idle
[12:24] <hamdan> Accepting Yes
[12:24] <hamdan> JobSheets none none
[12:25] <nubuntu> nevermind :)
[12:25] <hamdan> QuotaPeriod 0
[12:25] <hamdan> PageLimit 0
[12:25] <hamdan> KLimit 0
[12:25] <Ng> tonix: cupsys-bsd includes old style printer tools to work with cups, but not lp
[12:25] <CompShrink> tonix, iproute2 package
[12:25] <CompShrink> oh, lp
[12:25] <CompShrink> oops
[12:25] <Ng> hehe
[12:25] <jbzz> hamdan:   What we are striving for is the following:   smb://username:password@computername/computername/sharename
[12:26] <ilba7r> tonix that is really strange do you have cups installed
[12:26] <hamdan> DeviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/Printer
[12:26] <hamdan> is that the string?
[12:27] <jbzz> hamdan:   We want that line to follow that line of thinking.  The username is a valid user name of a user on the machine that is sharing the printer.
[12:27] <jbzz> hamdan:   Yes.
[12:27] <m33s> hi
[12:27] <m33s> has anybody any experience with mixxx?
[12:28] <hamdan> :)
[12:28] <jbzz> hamdan:   Generally it is a valid user account on the sharing machine followed by the name of the sharing machine followed by the name of the printer share name
[12:29] <ompaul> Seveas, where is the pool of packages for dapper?
[12:29] <Seveas> ompaul, archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool
[12:29] <ompaul> thanks
[12:29] <tonix> ilba7r: yes, i have cupsys and lpr
[12:29] <tonix> but not the lp command
[12:30] <trfc> hallo
[12:30] <hamdan> jbzz : ok..
[12:30] <Seveas> hi
[12:30] <hamdan> # Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.1.23
[12:30] <jbzz> hamdan:   Example:   smb://pete:secret@unit5/unit5/HP-4
[12:30] <AMDXP> ok
[12:31] <paulr_> can anyone connect to the Ubuntu forums? They seem to have been down for a few days here
[12:31] <Ng> tonix: lp appears to be in cupsys-client
[12:31] <hamdan> thats the only one i have shown here...DeviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/Printer
[12:31] <tonix> Ng: ok, i try to install cupsys-client, thanks
[12:32] <bimberi> !forumsdown
[12:32] <ubotu> ubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)
[12:32] <paulr_> OK thx
[12:32] <jbzz> hamdan:   Understood.  But you have to modify that line to make it follow the outline I have.
[12:32] <tonix> ok Ng: thanks, it works, now i got the lp command!
[12:32] <hamdan> aaah..ok now i follow
[12:33] <jbzz> Assume the sharing machine is called    unit5   adn the name of the printer share you gave it is   HP-4
[12:33] <hamdan> hamdan:   Generally it is a valid user account on the sharing machine followed by the name of the sharing machine followed by the name of the printer share name
[12:33] <jbzz> hamdan:  Assume the sharing machine is called    unit5   and the name of the printer share you gave it is     HP-4
[12:34] <hamdan> now i'll have to check its sharing name..
[12:34] <jbzz> hamdan:    Yes.  But notice the valid user account also contains the name of the machine that is sharing.
[12:34] <hamdan> that would be rite
[12:34] <sexcopter8000m> is there a programme to make a video dvd?
[12:35] <hamdan> viceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/Printer----> ure saying that this is not correct then? and i have to change it
[12:36] <jbzz> hamdan:  I believe what you have in that file needs to be modified.
[12:36] <drummer87> sexcopter8000m, qdvdauthor is one.. there are a couple of CLI progs and others. none of which i've really used tho. google is your friend
[12:36] <jbzz> hamdan:    Just that one line.
[12:37] <sexcopter8000m> drummer87, thanks1
[12:37] <sexcopter8000m> er, thanks!
[12:37] <jbzz> hamdan:  What was the name of the 'share' you used on the machine that is sharing the printer?
[12:37] <drummer87> qdvdauthor is just a qt frontend to dvdauthor and some other progs
[12:38] <drummer87> i looked into it not long ago, but cant remember the names of other progs
[12:38] <hamdan> printer6
[12:38] <drummer87> of course there's also kino and cinerella (spelling?) for video editing.. but not dvd authoring as well
[12:39] <janoli> hi how do you define mtu in /etc/network/interfaces, if using dhcp?
[12:39] <jbzz> hamdan:  OK.   Then the line will be changed to something like:   smb://pete:secret@unit5/unit5/printer6
[12:40] <hamdan> ok
[12:41] <gnomefreak> on this supergrub thing do i write the zip to floppy or do i uncompress it and write one of the files to floppy?
[12:41] <hamdan> DeviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/Printer6
[12:42] <hamdan> hells bells!!
[12:42] <hamdan> done it..
[12:42] <hamdan> :)
[12:43] <gnomefreak> brb gonna find out how well this works
[12:44] <jbzz> hamdan:  I think it will be something like    smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/ETSB04/Printer6         notice the repeat of the machine name.
[12:45] <jbzz> hamdan:  The machine name is the name of the machine that is sharing the printer.
[12:45] <hamdan> hmm
[12:45] <hamdan> the machine name sharing the printer is etsb03
[12:45] <hamdan> the machine printer attache is etsb04
[12:46] <jbzz> hamdan:  There should be a valid use account on etsb03  that you should use.  Because we are accessing the other machine to print.
[12:47] <Lunkentuss> How much space does an installation of ubuntu take?
[12:47] <ejofee> what is ajax?
[12:47] <jbzz> hamdan:    So the line should look something like:   smb://hamdan:fifififi@etsb04/etsb04/Printer6
[12:47] <Ng> ejofee: google ;)
[12:47] <Ng> ilba7r: where are these rumours coming from? :o
[12:48] <jbzz> Lukentuss:  About 3.5 gigs is nice.
[12:48] <ardchoille> does anyone know how to take a screenshot of the gdm login screen
[12:48] <Lunkentuss> jbzz anyway to get it lower by removing "crap"
[12:48] <ilba7r> Ng, http://www.fxcentre.co.uk/uk/news.asp?ukts+20060119_26148_267184
[12:48] <drummer87> Lunkentuss, standard install about 2.5gb (i just did a clean install)
[12:48] <Ng> ardchoille: you could log into the console and use a tool like "import" with the right DISPLAY variable magic I think
[12:48] <rixth> I cannot play MP3s in Rhythmbox, I get this in the terminal: http://pastebin.com/518901
[12:48] <drummer87> Lunkentuss, but then u'll be adding stuff
[12:48] <jbzz> Lukentuss:  Have not tried to reduce it.
[12:48] <drummer87> remember
[12:49] <rixth> !ops
[12:49] <ubotu> ops is, like, totally, Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, or nalioth.
[12:49] <Lunkentuss> How about server install
[12:49] <Ng> ilba7r: sounds like they just customised it for inhouse use to me, but interesting
[12:49] <hamdan> jbzz : how do i change it to smb://hamdan:fifififi@etsb04/etsb04/Printer6?
[12:49] <rixth> !ops please give me voice on my unmasked host (xxxxx-bitstream.orcon.net.nz)
[12:49] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, rixth
[12:49] <ardchoille> Ng: that sounds like it would work. What would the "right DISPLAY magic" be?
[12:49] <Ng> albeit off-topic ;)
[12:49] <drummer87> Lunkentuss, installing a lighter de will reduce the install size.. xfce for eg
[12:49] <rixth> !ops: please give me voice on my unmasked host (xxxxx-bitstream.orcon.net.nz)
[12:49] <ilba7r> Ng, i am on offtopic channel now :)
[12:49] <jbzz> hamdan:  You mean what application do you use?
[12:49] <rixth> Pah.
[12:50] <orion_fr_24> i m new with irc would you have a webpage with the most important command ???
[12:50] <hamdan> yup
[12:50] <Ng> ardchoille: DISPLAY=:0.0  before the import command. I think it'd be something like: "DISPLAY=:0.0 import -window root", but it's a long time since i used import, check its man page
[12:50] <rixth> orion_fr_24, /join #channel, /msg nickname your message, /part #channel and /quit are the main ones
[12:50] <ardchoille> Ng: thank you very much :)
[12:50] <jbzz> hamdan:  That is the tough part.  I use something called    vi    but that is too much for a beginner.   You also have to have higher privileges.
[12:50] <orion_fr_24> rixth: i know those ones except /part
[12:50] <Terminus> orion_fr_24: http://www.irchelp.org/ for help on IRC.
[12:51] <gnomefreak> ok on this supergrub im guessing all i need is the bat file right?
[12:51] <orion_fr_24> Terminus: thx dude
[12:51] <Terminus> orion_fr_24: np. :)
[12:51] <Ng> ardchoille: (import is in the imagemagick package)
[12:51] <hamdan> shucks
[12:51] <robotgeek> orion_fr_24: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XChatHowto
[12:51] <netstar> Where do I get autoconf from?
[12:51] <Snifffurt> hello
[12:51] <robotgeek> ardchoille: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TakingScreenshots might be helpful
[12:52] <ardchoille> robotgeek: thanks :)
[12:52] <jbzz> hamdan:  I am thinking ... maybe you should set the permissions of that file really low and then just use a word processor or text editor.
[12:52] <robotgeek> netstar: sudo apt-get install autoconf
[12:52] <orion_fr_24> hello everyone
[12:52] <netstar> robotgeek, do I need to enable universe?
[12:53] <robotgeek> netstar: no
[12:53] <jbzz> hamdan:  In the terminal window type    ls -l  printers.conf     (thgose first few vertical bars are lowercase letter   el      as in LIMA
[12:54] <netstar> Where can I get the ubuntu defsilt sources.list?
[12:54] <jbzz> hamdan:    That will show you the permissions of that file.   My file says   -rw-------
[12:54] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrrrrr who made that site :(
[12:55] <Snifffurt> I have some trubble to convert ape and wv files to wav with shntool. It just says: "is not handled by any of the builtin format modules". But how can I build in these modules? or get a shntool version wich this is built in. I have wavpack installed on my system.
[12:55] <ejofee> what is ajax?
[12:55] <Ng> ejofee: asynchronous javascript and xml - see google as I suggested ;)
[12:56] <hamdan> -rw-------  1 cupsys lpadmin 286 2006-01-23 19:41 printers.conf
[12:56] <Snifffurt> does anyone have shntool working with this?
[12:56] <drummer87> ejofee, also an abraisove cleaning product
[12:56] <Snifffurt> or know how I could get this running
[12:56] <jbzz> hamdan:    OK.  Your file agrees with mine.   Do you have a text editor in Applications  -  Accessories?
[12:57] <hamdan> jbzz : yes sir
[12:57] <jbzz> hamdan:  OK.   Do the following in the terminal window:     chmod 777 printers.conf        that will change the permissions.
[12:58] <hamdan> chmod: changing permissions of `printers.conf': Operation not permitted
[12:58] <jbzz> hamdan:  Actually:      sudo  chmod  777  printers.conf
[12:58] <cyphase> is there wa way to refresh nautilus fom inside a program? or from a terminal?
[12:58] <cyphase> a way*
[12:58] <cyphase> from*
[12:59] <hamdan> ok
[12:59] <jbzz> hamdan:  now try :    ls  -l  printers.conf     it should show something like  -rwxrwxrwx
[12:59] <hamdan> -rwxrwxrwx  1 cupsys lpadmin 286 2006-01-23 19:41 printers.conf
[01:00] <mwe> why would you make a config file executeable and writealbe for everyone? sounds like a bad idea
[01:00] <jbzz> hamdan:    Perfect.   Now start up your text editor and  open that file.
[01:00] <jbzz> hamdan:     /etc/cups/printers.conf
[01:01] <hamdan> jbzzhamdan@etsb03:/etc/cups$ /etc/cups/printers.conf
[01:01] <hamdan> /etc/cups/printers.conf: line 3: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[01:01] <mwe> making a config file in /etc/ chmod 777 is not good pracitise
[01:01] <Toadstool> cyphase: what do you mean by refreshing nautilus from inside a program ?
[01:01] <mwe> max should be 644
[01:02] <hamdan> /etc/cups/printers.conf: line 3: `<DefaultPrinter LaserJet-4-Plus>'
[01:02] <CompShrink> netstar, i sent you a private message about sources.list
[01:02] <C2ODe> error on configure: configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. any ideas?
[01:03] <Ng> C2ODe: have you installed the build-essential package?
[01:03] <cyphase> Toadstool, like when you press F5, or Ctrl+R
[01:03] <jbzz> hamdan:  What you need to do is start up a text editor and open that file.   Then edit the file.
[01:03] <mwe> hamdan: leaving that config file with those permissions is not a good idea. it should be 600
[01:03] <cyphase> i need the desktop to be refreshed specifically
[01:03] <Toadstool> cyphase: this is done by gam_server
[01:03] <mwe> hamdan: why di you change it to 777?
[01:03] <C2ODe> Ng: sure
[01:03] <senectus> are the ubuntuforums down again?!?!
[01:03] <cyphase> Toadstool, what do you mean?
[01:03] <hamdan> mwe : sorry what?
[01:04] <Ng> senectus: for a few more hours, yes
[01:04] <cyphase> i know that's how it's managed..
[01:04] <senectus> Ng, ok thanks..
[01:04] <cyphase> but i need to be able to refresh manually
[01:04] <Toadstool> ah ok :)
[01:04] <senectus> Does anyone know anything about hamachi VPN ??
[01:04] <mwe> mwest: changign permissions of /etc/cups/printers.conf to 777 is not a good idea
[01:05] <hamdan> jbzz : ok opened file
[01:05] <mwe> hamdan: changing permissions of /etc/cups/printers.conf to 777 is not a good idea
[01:05] <jbzz> hamdan:  Now make the changes to the text.
[01:05] <hamdan> jbzz : what is mwe talkin about?
[01:06] <jbzz> hamdan:  He is not aware of what we are trying to accomplish.
[01:06] <mwe> hamdan: didn't you do sudo chmod 777 printer.conf?
[01:06] <selinium> Is there an apt-get command to re-install?
[01:06] <netstar> thanks comes
[01:06] <shirish> hi all,  is www.ubuntuforums.org or http://ubuntuforums down?
[01:06] <netstar> CompShrink, even
[01:06] <hamdan> mwe : pls dont confuse me
[01:06] <mwe> shirish: yeah all the time
[01:06] <Ng> Seveas: any chance of topic'ing the forum info? ;)
[01:06] <Ng> shirish: yes, until later today
[01:07] <mwe> hamdan: I'm just saying changing permissions like that is a bad idea
[01:07] <Ng> selinium: --reinstall (see the man page for apt-get)
[01:07] <CompShrink> netstar, no problem
[01:07] <hamdan> mwe : and why is that?
[01:07] <selinium> Ng cheers :)
[01:08] <CompShrink> hamdan, it makes you vulnerable
[01:08] <mwe> hamdan: it's insecure and some programs wont even run if the config file has wrong permissions
[01:08] <shirish> Ng: why are the forums down, some zombie attacks or something?
[01:08] <Ng> shirish: they're just being moved afaik
[01:08] <mwe> hamdan: also setting the exe bit is plain wrong
[01:08] <CompShrink> shirish, they're changing servers
[01:09] <Snifffurt> is ubuntuforums.org down?
[01:09] <shirish> o.k. o.k. they should've then atleast sent a mail to all the account holders or put it up on the wiki or somewhere
[01:09] <khermans> Anyone know the ImageMagick convert command well?
[01:09] <hamdan> makes me vulnerable....well? jbzz is just tryin to help me out here..
[01:09] <jbzz> hamdan:  Stay focused on what we are doing.
[01:09] <mwe> hamdan: the permissions should be -rw-------. there's no need to change that
[01:10] <mwe> hamdan: no but normal users should not have rights to change system files. for a reason
[01:10] <mwe> hamdan: do what you want it's your system. but IMO it's not good advice to change permissions of that file like that
[01:10] <hamdan> JBZZ : sorry focused now..changed to DeviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/ETSB04/Printer6
[01:11] <bigjb> anyone run a irc proxy on ubuntu?
[01:11] <jbzz> hamdan:  Super.  That looks like it will work.
[01:11] <hamdan> jbzz : now save?
[01:11] <mwe> jbzz: why did you tell him to change permissions of that file?
[01:11] <jbzz> hamdan:    Yes.  Save.
[01:11] <mwe> jbzz: it should be 600 like it was
[01:12] <brian_> has anyone had any luck instally ymessenger
[01:12] <hamdan> Could not save the file "/etc/cups/printers.conf"
[01:12] <brian_> installing*
[01:12] <hamdan> arggh
[01:12] <ilba7r> brian had not problems installing it here
[01:12] <mwe> brian_: the linux version sucks. gaim is superior
[01:12] <brian_> i do sudo apt-get install ymessenger and it says no candidate
[01:12] <brian_> mwe, no file transfer
[01:13] <AMDXP> brian_: you have to download it from the site and install it
[01:13] <mwe> brian_: there is an outdated version available at yahoo.com
[01:13] <hamdan> Could not create a backup file.
[01:13] <ilba7r> brian_, do it from yahoo site. download bin packages. also there are alternatives
[01:13] <hamdan> jbzz : cant save
[01:13] <brian_> ilba7r, i need to be bale to do file transfer from yahoo
[01:13] <jbzz> hamdan:  Odd.  You should have permission to change that file.
[01:13] <ilba7r> i installed the bin files from yahoo
[01:14] <hamdan> jbzz : not giving me permission
[01:15] <jbzz> hamdan:  With the -rwxrwxrwx you should be able to modify that file.
[01:15] <mwe> jbzz: why did you tell him to change the permissions of the file?
[01:15] <mwe> jbzz: it's a bad idea
[01:15] <mwe> jbzz: he should just edit it with sudo $EDITOR
[01:16] <hamdan> -rwxrwxrwx  1 cupsys lpadmin 286 2006-01-23 19:41 printers.conf
[01:16] <shirish> I agree with mwe, gaim is superior
[01:16] <jbzz> hamdan:    Maybe mwe would like to take over from here.
[01:16] <ejofee> Ng: thank you
[01:17] <hamdan> jbzz : im no expert..im counting on you guys
[01:17] <mwe> jbzz: the intention is good, but changing permissions of system files is bad practise
[01:17] <jbzz> hamdan:  mwe:  Please go ahead and finish up.
[01:18] <mwe> jbzz: I don't know what he wants to do. I just spotted the chmod 777 which is a bad idea
[01:18] <hamdan> jbzz : lets just carry on...
[01:19] <ZhiChiang> Hi I need help!
[01:19] <jbzz> hamdan:  OK.  What editor are you using?
[01:19] <hamdan> jbzz: i cant save the changes..it wont grant me access
[01:19] <mwe> jbzz: please tell him to change perms back to 600
[01:19] <hamdan> the standard editor
[01:19] <hamdan> that comes with the installation disk
[01:19] <ZhiChiang> my ubuntu does start... does not mount as well...  i will past the errors
[01:19] <ZhiChiang> I encounter error when booting the OS.. error message is
[01:19] <jbzz> hamdan:  mwe:  Please take over if you need to.
[01:19] <ZhiChiang> FATAL: Module minix not found
[01:19] <ZhiChiang> Mount: mouting /dev/hda2 on /root failed: no such deivce
[01:19] <ZhiChiang> Mount: mouting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: no such file or directory
[01:19] <ZhiChiang> mount: muting /dev on /root/dev failed: no such file or directory
[01:19] <ZhiChiang> Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init
[01:19] <ZhiChiang> BusyBox v1.00-pre10 (Debian 20046623-1ubuntu) Built-in shell (ash)
[01:19] <ZhiChiang> Enter "help" for a list of built-in commands/.
[01:19] <ZhiChiang> /bin/sh: Can't access TTY: job control turned off.
[01:19] <ZhiChiang> #
[01:20] <ZhiChiang> can anybody help me how to fix this problem?
[01:20] <ilba7r> !tell ZhiChiang about pastebin
[01:20] <mwe> ZhiChiang: don't paste in the channel
[01:20] <ZhiChiang> im sorry!
[01:20] <hamdan> jbzz : carry on please we've come this far, we'll deal with mwe later
[01:20] <jbzz> hamdan:    OK.   What editor are you using?
[01:20] <hamdan> the standard editor
[01:20] <hamdan> that comes with the installation disk
[01:21] <mwe> destroy you system if you like. I'll shut up about it
[01:21] <ZhiChiang> sorry doesnt know that.....
[01:21] <jbzz> hamdan:    What is the name of the editor?
[01:21] <hamdan> mwe: we'll change it back once we are done..ok?you can help me change perms back once we are done
[01:21] <Seveas> ZhiChiang, pasting is THE way to loose all chances of getting help.    I have used that.   Well try saving the file as a different name.
[01:22] <frogzoo> ZhiChiang, what h/w u running on?
[01:23] <hamdan> jbzz : gimme a name
[01:23] <jbzz> hamdan:    Like   print.txt
[01:23] <looksaus> have there been profound changes to xorg the last days? it refuses to start on my ibook
[01:23] <hamdan> file path?
[01:23] <looksaus> it's complaining about the touchpad, amongst other things...
[01:24] <jbzz> hamdan:    /etc/cups/print.txt
[01:24] <mwe> looksaus: no changes in breezy here
[01:24] <looksaus> mwe: in dapper, I mean, sorry
[01:24] <Seveas> looksaus, check all paths in xorg.conf and gdm.conf
[01:24] <hamdan> jbzz : shucks its now saved /etc/cups/print.config !!
[01:25] <looksaus> I see a /dev/.static/dev/input/mice
[01:25] <looksaus> Seveas, don't know if it was like this before
[01:25] <ZhiChiang> Hi Thanks ...
[01:25] <jeiks> Hi. When I lock the screen or otherwhise leave the computer unattended, it often has a habit of logging out automatically after a while. Is this a common thing?
[01:25] <Ng> looksaus: dapper is an unstable development branch... it's going to break randomly
[01:25] <jbzz> hamdan:    You mean it saved the file properly?
[01:25] <hamdan> jbzz :yup no problem
[01:25] <looksaus> Ng, perfectly aware of that, thx anyway
[01:25] <Seveas> looksaus, a few symlinks that were kept for compatibility were removed, probably these are still used in gdm.conf or xorg.conf (happened to a lot of people)
[01:25] <ZhiChiang> frogzoo: I did that already and I still encounter error...
[01:26] <ZhiChiang> fragzoo: I am running the ubuntu on Dell inspiron 700m laptop computer
[01:26] <looksaus> Seveas, should I reference this /dev/.static/dev/input/mice directly?
[01:26] <jbzz> hamdan:    That makes more sense.
[01:26] <noirequus> rixth: did you get your problem taken care of?
[01:26] <hamdan> jbzz : now its called /etc/cups/print.conf
[01:26] <ZhiChiang> I just use the pastebin @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7515
[01:26] <hamdan> i'll be damned
[01:26] <jbzz> hamdan:    Oh.  A slightly different name.
[01:26] <Seveas> looksaus, no, /dev/.static should ideally not be used at all
[01:26] <hamdan> jbzz : yes slightly
[01:27] <jbzz> hamdan:  Well, go back to the terminal session again.
[01:27] <hamdan> jbzz : ok
[01:27] <looksaus> hm, any idea where I should point for my mouse to work then?
[01:27] <looksaus> or is it up to me to read xorg.conf docs?
[01:28] <jbzz> hamdan:    If you are still in the same directory    /etc/ups   then type    cat  print.conf    and look at the new file you made.
[01:28] <dutch> just found an entry in /tmp that starts "ssh-"..what does it mean ?
[01:28] <Seveas> looksaus, sorry, I don't use dapper yet, I just repeat what I heard from others  :)
[01:28] <looksaus> np, thx Seveas
[01:28] <hamdan> DeviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/ETSB04/Printer6
[01:28] <jbzz> hamdan:    I meant   /etc/cups   directory.   And make sure the new file looks correct.
[01:29] <ZhiChiang> any suggestion or fix for this problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7515
[01:29] <mwe> dutch: probaly nothing to worry about. /tmp are fo temporary files. maybe ssh put some temp file there
[01:29] <hamdan> jbzz : looks good?
[01:29] <dutch> mwe: but, I don't use ssh :(
[01:29] <mwe> dutch: well I have it too
[01:29] <jbzz> hamdan:    It should look like the original but with only the changes you made to the one line.
[01:29] <looksaus> woohoo, we are in business again
[01:29] <hamdan> DeviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/ETSB04/Printer6
[01:30] <dutch> mwe: ok, thanks...was wondering.
[01:30] <AMDXP> wow i have one hella lag
[01:30] <looksaus> ... somewhat
[01:30] <frogzoo> ZhiChiang, try this - turn on machine & when grub menu appears - hit 'e' - then wait 20 secs, then hit 'CR' & then 'b' to boot
[01:30] <hamdan> jbzz : changes made -->DeviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/ETSB04/Printer6
[01:30] <mwe> dutch: maybe sshd is running? or some program you used did run ssh. I wouldn't worry
[01:30] <jeiks> When I lock the screen or otherwhise leave the computer unattended, it often has a habit of logging out automatically after a while. Does anybody know how to fix this?
[01:31] <frogzoo> ZhiChiang, when was your last kernel update btw?
[01:31] <jbzz> hamdan:    Yes that looks right.   Now we can rename the original file to protect it in case we need to look at it later.
[01:31] <ilba7r> ZhiChiang, did you play with mounting options. or fstab file
[01:31] <hamdan> jbzz : show me the way
[01:31] <ZhiChiang> frogzoo: kernel was updated last week..
[01:32] <ZhiChiang> frogzoo: okay I will try your suggestion
[01:32] <jbzz> hamdan:     In the terminal window type:    mv   printers.conf   printers.conf_original              just like that
[01:32] <looksaus> Seveas, heard of problems like the following:
[01:32] <parax> hi
[01:32] <hamdan> mv: cannot move `printers.conf' to `printers.conf_original': Operation not permitted
[01:32] <looksaus> gdm starts
[01:33] <looksaus> I start logging in and everything goes bonkers
[01:33] <parax> anybody has already test ubuntu on a new apple imac intel core duo?
[01:33] <looksaus> trying to be more precise, sorry
[01:33] <Seveas> looksaus, that would suggest an error in your user data, try creating a new user and logging in with that account
[01:33] <jbzz> hamdan:    Type this :    ls  -l  printers.conf
[01:33] <looksaus> I still have a moving mouse pointer
[01:33] <jbzz> hamdan:    That will show the permissions again.
[01:34] <hamdan> jbzz: yup
[01:34] <frogzoo> yar, when the gnome files are messed up, is there any way to recover the configs? other than recreating the user?
[01:34] <jbzz> hamdan:    Are they still    -rwxrwxrwx    ?
[01:34] <hamdan> -rwxrwxrwx  1 cupsys lpadmin 286 2006-01-23 19:41 printers.conf
[01:34] <mwe> jbzz: normal users can't create or move files in /etc
[01:34] <mwe> jbzz: you need sudo for that
[01:34] <jeiks> parax: I haven't heard of anyone who has been able to install linux on an imac intel core duo yet
[01:35] <AMDXP> anyone use freenx?
[01:35] <jbzz> hamdan:  OK.   Lets try:     sudo  mv  printers.conf   printers.conf_original                  like that
[01:36] <hamdan> done
[01:36] <ashrack> i will probably reinstall ubuntu on one of my machine. I would like to know which files should I backup so I could just restore them when my fresh ubuntu install is complete?
[01:37] <looksaus> Seveas, damn, even a new user seems to have probs
[01:37] <luke_> hi everybody!!!
[01:37] <mwe> ashrack: I'd back up my home dir and /etc
[01:37] <frogzoo> ashrack, /var/spool/mail & /home for starters
[01:37] <luke_> i was wondering ... how do i install GPART on my ubuntu
[01:37] <AMDXP> luke_: hi there
[01:37] <gaz-> say i install windows on my machine, which overwrites grub, is it easy to remake grub the default bootloader e.g. replace windows's mbr
[01:37] <jbzz> hamdan:    Now do this:      sudo  mv  printer.conf  printers.conf          but get that spelling right
[01:38] <luke_> can anybody help me out
[01:38] <frogzoo> luke_, search for gpart in synaptic & apply :D
[01:38] <tristan> ask luke_
[01:38] <jbzz> hamdan:    Or was it      sudo   mv   print.conf  printers.conf
[01:38] <AMDXP> gaz-: no usually you have to install windows and then ubuntu
[01:38] <luke_> i already did it
[01:38] <hamdan> u mean print.conf ?
[01:38] <ashrack> tanx, thought so too
[01:38] <jbzz> hamdan:  Yes.
[01:38] <Seveas> looksaus, well, in a way that is a good thing since now you can blame it on the deveopers ;)
[01:38] <hamdan> new file is print.conf
[01:38] <mwe> print.config was the name you gave it
[01:38] <frogzoo> luke_, u saying u couldn't find gparted ?
[01:38] <luke_> nope
[01:39] <luke_> i found it and then checked it
[01:39] <tristan> luke_ : sudo apt-get install gparted
[01:39] <luke_> it seems that the packages were downloaded but
[01:39] <jbzz> hamdan:    Yes we need to 'move' that     print.conf file to be  printers.conf
[01:39] <frogzoo> luke_, after u check it u have to click 'apply'
[01:39] <hamdan> done
[01:39] <gaz-> AMDXP, bit surely its possible to overwrite the mbr with grub again?
[01:39] <luke_> i did!
[01:39] <gaz-> but*
[01:40] <jbzz> hamdan:    Now we need to change the owner as follows    sudo chown cups printers.conf
[01:40] <frogzoo> luke_, does synaptic now show the pkg as installed?
[01:40] <looksaus> Seveas, oof, I managed to get at least an xterm
[01:40] <luke_> how can i know if it is in my system or not
[01:40] <AMDXP> gaz-: i think you will loose your window install if you do I am not sure though
[01:40] <luke_> yep!
[01:40] <mwe> AMDXP: you wont
[01:40] <AMDXP> l,ok i stand corrected
[01:40] <gaz-> AMDXP naa you shouldnt
[01:40] <frogzoo> luke_, either just enter gpart & press tab, or dpkg -l |grep gpart
[01:41] <hamdan> chown: `cups': invalid user
[01:41] <frogzoo> luke_, but if synaptic shows the pkg as installed, then....
[01:41] <mwe> hamdan: cupsys
[01:41] <jbzz> hamdan:    OK.      sudo  chown  cupsys  printers.conf
[01:42] <mwe> groups should be lpadmin
[01:42] <luke_> i went to...SYSTEM>ADMIN>ADD APPLICATION
[01:42] <hamdan> done
[01:42] <luke_> then i checked gpart
[01:42] <jbzz> hamdan:     Now we change the group:      sudo  chgrp  lpadmin  printers.conf
[01:43] <hamdan> done
[01:43] <mwe> you should also chmod 600 printers.conf. sorry for interfering
[01:43] <jbzz> hamdan:    Now change the permissions back:     sudo  chmod  600  printers.conf
[01:44] <hamdan> changed owner from who to who? change group from what to what?
[01:44] <hamdan> done
[01:45] <jbzz> hamdan:    Now look at it again:    ls  -l  printers.conf
[01:45] <jbzz> hamdan:    It should look like   -rw-------     cupsys  lpadmin
[01:45] <hamdan> -rw-------  1 cupsys lpadmin 294 2006-01-23 20:26 printers.conf
[01:45] <jbzz> hamdan:  Looks right.
[01:45] <hamdan> jbzz: looks good
[01:46] <jbzz> hamdan:    Now if we have that right you have a good chance that you can print to the shared printer.
[01:46] <hzg> ask for help about mysql 4.1.12 on ubuntu linux 5.10
[01:46] <hamdan> can we check that?
[01:47] <jbzz> hamdan:    If it is wrong then it needs to be modified more or something else is wrong with the share.
[01:47] <hzg> i change encoding in my.cnf of mysql 4.1.12,but it doesn't work
[01:47] <hamdan> jbzz : can we check it?
[01:48] <jbzz> hamdan:    It has to be very close to perfect the way it is.  Unless there is a spelling error.  Yes give it a try.
[01:48] <hamdan> jbzz : im going to re-add a printer in my printer folder
[01:49] <rapha> Hi all!
[01:49] <jbzz> hamdan:    Wait.
[01:49] <ZhiChiang> hi frogzoo... when I hit e this is the menu i got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7516
[01:49] <rapha> Can somebody help me solve a problem with HTML tidy?
[01:49] <ZhiChiang> frogzoo: i cant find the CR
[01:49] <jbzz> hamdan:    If you make any change to that printer you created you might change the modifications we made.
[01:50] <hzg> i look for mysql encoding on google,someone say mysql 4.1.12 should update to mysql 4.1.16.really?
[01:50] <hamdan> ok..
[01:50] <folki> what command can I use to show list of all processes?
[01:50] <Ng> ps auwx
[01:51] <luke_> now....if gpart is installed on my system... where can i find it
[01:51] <jbzz> hamdan:    Is that printer the 'default' printer when you look at your printers?
[01:51] <hamdan> jbzz : yes it is
[01:51] <jbzz> hamdan:  Excellent.
[01:51] <tristan> luke_ try to type gparted in terminal
[01:51] <jbzz> hamdan:    You might try gedit and print to that printer.
[01:52] <luke_> command not found...
[01:52] <folki> can anybody help me please?i need to show list of all processes.
[01:53] <cyphase> ouch
[01:53] <luke_> that`s what i get
[01:53] <Rolan> folki: ps aux
[01:53] <kestas> is there any flowchart software for linux?
[01:53] <folki> thnx
[01:53] <hzg> to folki:ps -ef
[01:53] <pixelfairy> ugh... slow download from the us archive...
[01:53] <pixelfairy> kestas: you can use draw in openoffice or dia
[01:53] <cyphase> kesteas, try Dia
[01:53] <jbzz> folki:  use the command:      ps -aux
[01:54] <AMDXP> wow
[01:54] <hamdan> cat  print.conf
[01:54] <hamdan> DeviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/ETSB04/Printer6
[01:54] <n00b> hi guys
[01:54] <folki> thank u all...and I have one problem yet.I installed some software before and i need to uninstall it now.how can i do that?
[01:54] <n00b> i know that this may be question that is unrelated to ubuntu
[01:55] <kestas> pixelfairy, thanks Draw will do fine :)
[01:55] <n00b> but how would i be able to create a slackware 10.2 DVD rather than having all those CDs?
[01:55] <pixelfairy> noob the directions come with slackware
[01:55] <BradM> Has anyone ever used Slackware before?
[01:55] <gaz-> n00b, download slack dvd image?
[01:56] <pixelfairy> BradM: been using slackware since like 94
[01:56] <hzg> folki: use synaptic package managment
[01:56] <BradM> Do you use Ubuntu too?
[01:56] <pixelfairy> yes
[01:56] <pixelfairy> isnt there a slackware channel?
[01:56] <BradM> How much different are the two?
[01:56] <n00b> gaz- yes but i would like to download it from my ISP (since downloads count)
[01:56] <n00b> pixelfairy, where can i find this information?
[01:57] <pixelfairy> BradM: the quick answer, is that slackware just dumps a working system on your box and leaves you alone, it has a package system, which makes updates easy and makeing your own packages easy, if your comfy on the command line
[01:57] <hamdan> jbzz: ill reboot and brb
[01:57] <jbzz> hamdan:  Roger.
[01:57] <sorush20> what is a good chess game/
[01:58] <luke_> darnet
[01:58] <pixelfairy> n00b: i think its on the first cd, but someones borrowing mine
[01:58] <luke_> alright!!!
[01:58] <BradM> pixelfairy, would you reccomend a switch from Ubuntu to Slackware?
[01:58] <luke_> can anyone help me to install Gpart on my system...
[01:58] <pixelfairy> BradM: for myself, i like slackware. you can try it in qemu or vmware
[01:58] <folki> ok, thanks
[01:58] <pixelfairy> ist pretty simple if you know unix
[01:59] <BradM> I might give it a tr.
[01:59] <BradM> try*
[01:59] <BradM> i'm going to have to install gnome though
[01:59] <sorush20> any good chess games?
[01:59] <pixelfairy> virtual manchines (qemu, vmware, virtualpc etc) are a good thing
[01:59] <luke_> it says.... E:Couldn`t find ....
[01:59] <Epic> vmware is amazing
[01:59] <sorush20> knights is the one I've found, although I don't know how to get the engines for it?
[01:59] <Epic> That's what I'm running ubuntu on right now and it's smooth as silk on a old athlon system
[01:59] <luke_> after i`ve run [sudo apt-get install gparted
[02:00] <pixelfairy> Epic: vmware is great till you want to script it
[02:00] <pixelfairy> but yea, im a fan of vmware too
[02:00] <Epic> I've never wrote a script
[02:00] <Epic> doesn't concern me too much :)
[02:01] <pixelfairy> i like to make networks of virtual machines that change after i started it (unlike most network scripts)
[02:01] <pixelfairy> uml and qemu are good for that
[02:01] <pixelfairy> right now im just setting up a laptop for an artist
[02:02] <MrRio> heyhey
[02:02] <pixelfairy> and ubuntu is good for that
[02:02] <pixelfairy> at least this one
[02:02] <AMDXP> well i want to make a network using thin clients
[02:02] <Epic> It just surprises me how well it runs now. This is the first time I have used it in a few versions
[02:02] <MrRio> ive got gnome and now kde on this system, ive set my gnome theme in a kde control panel, and now i cant change it using gnome-theme-manager
[02:02] <MrRio> any idea why?
[02:02] <Epic> Host OS is XP and I have ReactOS running too
[02:02] <Epic> All of them are smooth
[02:02] <pixelfairy> reactos runs now?
[02:02] <pixelfairy> how is it?
[02:03] <Epic> Actually ReactOS won't boot on this system unless it's within VMware
[02:03] <pixelfairy> i love how well vmware automagically bridges to ethernet
[02:03] <frogzoo> ZhiChiang, just hit enter & then 'b' to boot
[02:03] <hamdan> jbzz
[02:03] <Epic> I dunno why
[02:04] <jbzz> hamdan:    Yes.
[02:04] <pixelfairy> if only there was a way to run the installed xp in a virtual machine once in awhile
[02:04] <ZhiChiang> frogzoo: i does the same thing :(
[02:04] <hamdan> printer wont stop churnin our paper
[02:04] <pixelfairy> so the user wont have to reboot just to do something trivial in windows
[02:04] <Epic> ??
[02:04] <jbzz> hamdan:    Shut off the printer
[02:04] <pixelfairy> XP is supposed to freak out if hardware changes (or something like that)
[02:04] <hamdan> did that
[02:04] <allison_1984> jbzz: hey man
[02:05] <hamdan> when turned it back on..i continued churnin out paper
[02:05] <frogzoo> ZhiChiang, well I dunno if I had the same problem - but my machine was doing something similiar, & it 'just' went away - not sure why
[02:05] <Epic> it can
[02:05] <Epic> Depends on what changes
[02:05] <jbzz> hamdan:    Maybe check your printer and place a hold on what it is printing.
[02:05] <frogzoo> ZhiChiang, do you use usb or pcmcia devices?
[02:06] <jbzz> hamdan:    That probably means we are sending a print job to that printer but maybe the driver is not appropriate.
[02:06] <ZhiChiang> frogzoo: i am using usb devices with mouse and my DVD writer.
[02:06] <hamdan> jbzz : maybe
[02:06] <gaz-> anyone know which system service is used at startup to synchronise the system clock on the internet?
[02:06] <hamdan> anyway to check via terminal to see if everything is ok?
[02:06] <jbzz> hamdan:    Did you make the choice of printer to match the printer exactly?
[02:06] <frogzoo> ZhiChiang, but no usb storage?
[02:07] <hamdan> jbzz : yes i did
[02:07] <hamdan> laserjet-4-plus
[02:07] <jbzz> hamdan:    Well that is odd.     Laserjet 4 plus.
[02:07] <ZhiChiang> frogzoo: i remember, my dvd writer hang and I just remove the usb without enjecting or unmounting the disk... do you think that might be the problem? yes I have usb storage (external mobile hard disk)
[02:08] <bigjb> http
[02:08] <jbzz> hamdan:    We must be pointed to the correct share point and something is being sent.
[02:08] <bigjb> grr
[02:08] <ZhiChiang> frogzoo: but I didnt use my usb drive since last week.
[02:08] <bigjb> wrong keyboard
[02:08] <jerris> does anybody know how to rest the video drivers?
[02:08] <hamdan> now my printer wont stop churning out paper..
[02:08] <hamdan> :)
[02:08] <frogzoo> ZhiChiang, I'd disconnect the usb device & reinstall grub - google for 'ubuntu grub recovery'
[02:08] <ZhiChiang> ntfs, ext3, ext3, extended, swap, fat32
[02:09] <sexcopter8000m> hi, sorry this is a tad off-topic, but does anyone know about msn protocols? friend has found this http://www.block-checker.com/ and wants to know if it's a scam or if it really is possible to find who's blocked you
[02:09] <jbzz> hamdan:    There might be a large printkob in the printer cue.  See if you can stop that.
[02:09] <ZhiChiang> ooppss sorry wrong window
[02:09] <jbzz> hamdan:    Cancel the job maybe.
[02:09] <frogzoo> jerris, x drivers are fat & sluggish & need the exercise :)
[02:09] <hamdan> jbzz ; no job pending
[02:09] <pixelfairy> sexcopter8000m: why dont you just try it? maybe with ethereal running
[02:10] <sexcopter8000m> pixelfairy, using wine?
[02:10] <jbzz> hamdan:    Well what do you make of that.   There should be some way of flushing the job out of that laserjet memory.
[02:10] <pixelfairy> sexcopter8000m: gaim might be easier
[02:10] <ZhiChiang> frogzoo: okay i will try1
[02:11] <ZhiChiang> frogzoo: thanks a lor
[02:11] <bigjb> is there a nice lightweight httpd server from the default repositories with python cgi support
[02:11] <pixelfairy> oh its a desktop app
[02:11] <jbzz> hamdan:    Maybe you will have to turn it off and on a few times to dump whatever it has already received.
[02:11] <sexcopter8000m> pixelfairy, if it is a loads of crap and is loaded with spyware for windoz users, am i as an ubuntu user safe from all that?
[02:11] <pixelfairy> sexcopter8000m: or using qemu or vmware
[02:11] <ZhiChiang> brb
[02:11] <pixelfairy> sexcopter8000m: thats why you do it in a virtual machine
[02:11] <hamdan> ok..let me try that..
[02:12] <sexcopter8000m> ok, pixelfairy, but i've *never* used vmware or qemu, is it easy and intuitive?
[02:12] <hamdan> jbzz : meanwhile how can we confirm that what we did just now was right?
[02:12] <pixelfairy> sexcopter8000m: if theres a way to tell, then the right traffic would probably show up on sniffer anyway
[02:12] <rambo3> no its memory needy and usless
[02:12] <parhitean> i have printer lexmark how to set up my my ubuntu
[02:12] <frogzoo> sexcopter8000m, the installs are a pita - extraordinarily slow going
[02:12] <pixelfairy> sexcopter8000m: both are pretty easy, vmware would be better for this
[02:13] <pixelfairy> qemu is slow on disk access
[02:13] <pixelfairy> which makes installing windows slow
[02:13] <jbzz> hamdan:    Well the only thing I question would be any settings that you might have made that (for whatever reason) just were not right.
[02:13] <jbzz> hamdan:    I do not know how many options you had in terms of drivers, etc.  Generally the recommended driver is the best 'first' choice.
[02:14] <hamdan> jbzz :  lol..its still churning out empty paper..
[02:14] <pixelfairy> sexcopter8000m: theres probably an easier safer way to check. and if msn finds out, they would probalby fix it anyway
[02:14] <rambo3> open mozilla http://localhost:631
[02:14] <sexcopter8000m> pixelfairy, oh i see lol, it entails installing a virtual windows system... well i'm tight on hdd space at the moment, so i can't right now
[02:14] <pixelfairy> that kinda thing really should be server side
[02:14] <jbzz> hamdan:    Shut it off for about 1 minute and then turn it back on and see what happens.
[02:15] <sexcopter8000m> just asked in #gaim and someone's pointed out that since msn messenger version 6, everyone who's not on your list is blocked
[02:15] <jbzz> hamdan:    I am thinking it got a huge amount of what it thinks are 'form feeds'.
[02:15] <Tusnal> hello anybody home?
[02:15] <pixelfairy> sexcopter8000m: make a new msn in gaim and see what happens when you block yourself, then try to talk to the blocked name or something and see what the sniffer or gaims debugging output tells you. ethereal is good at decoding that stuff
[02:16] <jbzz> hamdan:     As if the data sent was being garbaged up.
[02:16] <hamdan> jbzz : ure guess is as good as mine
[02:16] <jbzz> hamdan:    Well think about that.  If every character that was sent was interpreted as a form feed ... wow.
[02:16] <rapha> Hi all!
[02:17] <Tusnal> Hello, i just checked distrowatch and it seems like there is a "snapshot" version, anybody know where i can get it from?
[02:17] <hamdan> jbzz : freaky
[02:17] <rapha> Anybody else using an old Clamshell iBook here?
[02:17] <marccd> screen es lo ms :-D
[02:17] <pixelfairy> sexcopter8000m: blockchecker looks pretty full of it
[02:18] <sexcopter8000m> pixelfairy, what do you mean? full of crap?
[02:18] <pixelfairy> yea
[02:18] <hamdan> jbzz : ive switched it off now...maybe the ol' thing needs a break..
[02:18] <pixelfairy> those protocols change all the time
[02:18] <pixelfairy> as any gaim user would tell you
[02:18] <pixelfairy> if not full of it, then its probalby not doing things it should
[02:18] <MrRio> anyone know why i cant change my gtk theme using gnome-theme-manager after changing it in kde?
[02:19] <jbzz> Ihamdan:    I see the recommended driver for that printer in the printer setup.  There were not too many drivers available.
[02:19] <frogzoo> Tusnal, Dapper perhaps?
[02:19] <jbzz> hamdan:   hpijs   appears to be the recommended printer driver.
[02:19] <frogzoo> !tell Tusnal about dapper
[02:20] <Tusnal> oh maybe
[02:20] <jbzz> hamdan:  Hey there is another printer entry called Laserjet 4 series and it suggests a different driver.
[02:20] <Tusnal> can i type an url here?
[02:20] <frogzoo> Tusnal, yep
[02:20] <hamdan> jbzz : i've just noticed that
[02:20] <hamdan> jbzz : that wasnt there before
[02:21] <jbzz> hamdan:    Called   High Quality Image (Gimp-Print) (gimp-pint) (Suggested)
[02:21] <Tusnal> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu see.. here is a version called "snapshot" that got all new packages
[02:21] <jbzz> aybe that is worth a try at this point.
[02:21] <Tusnal> it is probably dapper but i dont know
[02:21] <jbzz> hamdan:    Maybe that is worth a try at this point.
[02:22] <frogzoo> Tusnal, dapper is pretty bleeding edge - I think that's about as messy as it gets/or you'd want
[02:22] <Tusnal> frogzoo: i just want to give it a try .. what do u recommend?
[02:23] <jbzz> hamdan:    Strange that such closely related models have completely different drivers suggested.
[02:23] <frogzoo> Tusnal, depends on your experience/confidence & what you're trying to do - but dapper will break on you regardless
[02:23] <drummer87> Tusnal, remember there is a big warning about NOT using dapper as ur main os. test it separately.
[02:23] <alex____> hey I have a problem when I run the apache server I have interference with the wireless conection, how can I resolve that?
[02:23] <alex___> hey I have a problem when I run the apache server I have interference with the wireless conection, how can I resolve that?
[02:23] <drummer87> there's lots about it in the forums. when they're back up
[02:24] <Tusnal> so i better get the stable one .. 5.10 will work i guess so
[02:24] <jbzz> hamdan:  I still feel we must have the modified line correct.   Otherwise the garbage would not have gone to the correct sharepoint.
[02:24] <Tusnal> thx you guys
[02:25] <drummer87> Tusnal, feel free to test dapper.. just know it's just for testing and will break often with changes the devs make every day
[02:25] <adub> is there a command i can run to find out my hard drive rpm
[02:26] <Tusnal> later thx
[02:26] <superposi> hola a tod@s
[02:26] <superposi> hi at all
[02:26] <hamdan> jbzz  : hpijs driver dont work at all
[02:27] <jbzz> hamdan:    I was just nosing around in Google looking for any suggestions.
[02:29] <hamdan> jbzz : my printer now shos error 20 mem overflow
[02:29] <hamdan> :)
[02:29] <hamdan> jbzz : my printer now shows error 20 mem overflow
[02:30] <jbzz> hamdan:    As if it has received more data than it can handle.
[02:30] <hamdan> jbzz : youre right..
[02:30] <hamdan> memory overflow
[02:30] <jbzz> hamdan:   Or maybe because we are turning it on and off and the buffer control is brain dead.
[02:30] <jbzz> hamdan:    I saw something on Google.  Let me look at that.
[02:31] <hamdan> ok
[02:31] <fourebees> Hi all. Just a quick questions. I tried to access the Ubuntu forum just now and ... nothing. The site didn't come up. Is there a problem with it?
[02:31] <robotgeek> !forumsdown
[02:31] <ubotu> ubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)
[02:32] <fourebees> no probs ubotu. Thanks for that. This is the first time I've been on this channel and the service has been impeccable :))
[02:33] <hubbadub> has anyone gotten Alpha Centauri to work in Cedega?
[02:33] <fourebees> thanks all. Hope you have a good day/night where ever you are.
[02:36] <mtlife> if i have a raid1, and 1 disk fails.. and I add a new one, why does it take AGES (like more then 12 hours on 40 gig) to do a resync? and why is my cpu usage 100% while doing it?
[02:36] <alex___> hey when I run the apache server I have problems wwith the wireless conection how can I resolve it?
[02:38] <rotem> xine, mplayer and xmms are seg faulting at start up, how can i fix this?
[02:38] <kestas> hmm
[02:38] <kestas> does totem segfault?
[02:38] <_jason> rotem: did you get them from the repos?
[02:39] <jbzz> hamdan:    Well I did not find anything helpful.  There were others that had lots of formfeeds.  But I did not see any solutions.
[02:39] <rotem> kestas, yes
[02:39] <rotem> _jason, yes
[02:39] <n00b> hey guys are there any other distro's like damn small linux?
[02:40] <jbzz> hamdan:    Most suspected that the drivers were incorrect (such as using postscript) but no solutions were noted.  You cannot be the only one with this problem.
[02:40] <_jason> rotem: run 'mplayer' in a terminal.  get any useful info?   are you using breezy?
[02:40] <rotem> _jason, i am runnign breezy and ti segfaults before it does anything
[02:40] <kestas> rotem, how do you know it's segfaulting?
[02:40] <jbzz> hamdan:  Maybe it would be worth asking others here which driver works with the Laserjet 4.
[02:40] <rotem> kestas, it says
[02:41] <kestas> rotem, are you on any special hardware? 64-bit?
[02:41] <hamdan> jbzz : rite..anyone?
[02:41] <_jason> rotem: mplayer -ao null /path/to/some/movie
[02:41] <rotem> kestas, nope regular 32 bit
[02:41] <kestas> what does it say?
[02:41] <hamdan> anyone : laserjet 4 plus problem here...
[02:42] <rotem> _jason, still segfaults
[02:42] <kestas> hamdan, a google would be more productive, you probably wont find anyone with some obscure printer here
[02:42] <kestas> how do you know it's segfaulting?
[02:42] <JoeBlow> i accidentl deleted my trach icon, how do i put it back
[02:42] <_jason> rotem: try 'mplayer -vo  null /path/to/movie'
[02:42] <kestas> JoeBlow, right click on the panel, click add
[02:43] <jbzz> haman:    Take a look at this:  http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_4
[02:43] <rotem> _jestas: same
[02:43] <_jason> rotem: did it ever work, or always seg faulted?
[02:43] <rotem> _jason, it used to work. i dont remember doign anythign before ti stoppepd working
[02:43] <kestas> how do you know it's segfaulting?
[02:43] <alex___> hey when I run the apache server I have problems wwith the wireless conection how can I resolve it?
[02:43] <rotem> kestas, it says
[02:43] <kestas> what does it say?
[02:44] <_jason> rotem: you have tried different files?
[02:44] <rotem> _jason, yes, same thing
[02:44] <robotgeek> alex___: what kind of problems? please give details?
[02:45] <rotem> _jason, do these programs all use the same lib?
[02:45] <hamdan> jbvv : that should be http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_4_Plus
[02:46] <_jason> rotem: mplayer and xmms are pretty related, I think xmms likes to keep to itself but it does use the w32codecs for wmv9.  I don't know too many details though
[02:46] <mtlife> if i have a raid1, and 1 disk fails.. and I add a new one, why does it take AGES (like more then 12 hours on 40 gig) to do a resync? and why is my cpu usage 100% while doing it?
[02:46] <rotem> _jason, coudl it be that my w32codecs is corrupt
[02:47] <_jason> rotem: try a file that doesn't use w32codecs
[02:47] <_jason> probably not
[02:48] <rotem> deletign the codecs doesnt help
[02:48] <alex___> robotgeek: well when apache is up, and when I try to connect via dhclient the internet is ok but some minutes later the internet gone, and I thin k that is because they are trying to use the <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:48] <rotem> _jason, btw gstreamer works
[02:48] <kestas> I'd try reinstalling all xine libs
[02:49] <kestas> could be motif thouhg
[02:49] <rotem> thanks for your help but i need to go
[02:49] <kestas> could be a number of things
[02:49] <robotgeek> alex___: your wireless drops when apache is running?
[02:50] <alex___> robotgeek: yes
[02:50] <robotgeek> alex___: which wireless card is this?
[02:50] <tatters> anyone running snort-mysql on ubuntu?
[02:50] <DevGet> hi all! I'm looking for a good formula and writing program, oo.org2 formula editor isn't my friend..
[02:51] <alex___> robotgeek: is D-Link
[02:51] <_jason> DevGet: learn latex
[02:51] <luite> DevGet: kformula maybe?
[02:51] <robotgeek> alex___: not ndiswrapper, i hope?
[02:52] <robotgeek> DevGet: latex?
[02:52] <jbzz> haman:    From the one page I read it appears as though the HPijs driver is appropriate for the Laserjet 4
[02:52] <DevGet> latex feels a little bit overkill, but maybe not...
[02:52] <alex___> robotgeek: no, the card found well
[02:52] <alex___> robotgeek: the problem in only when I try to connet with my card
[02:53] <tatters> is there anything like snort ubuntu supports without opening up multiverse?
[02:53] <Dasnipa`> jbzz: turboprint is a nice driver
[02:53] <robotgeek> alex___: there isn't any relation between apache + wireless, AFAIK. i've run it on my laptop successfully for ages
[02:54] <jbzz> haman:    Dasnipa:    human has a Laserjet 4    When he send text to it it form fed an awful lot of papaer.
[02:55] <hamdan> jbzz : laserjet 4 plus
[02:55] <hamdan> jbzz: not laserjet 4
[02:55] <tatters> anyone use acidlab and ubuntu?
[02:55] <Dasnipa`> hamdan, if you dont mind spending a bit of cash turboprint is among the best utils ive seen
[02:55] <jbzz> hamdan:   Ah.   Got it.   Dasnipa do you have any experience with the Laserjet 4 Plus?
[02:56] <Dasnipa`> but no, i dont have any exp with the specific printer
[02:56] <Dasnipa`> i just know that driver is exceptionally good at supporting printers
[02:56] <sweet_kate> hi
[02:57] <sweet_kate> how tdo i extract a rar archive?
[02:57] <sweet_kate> how do i extract a rar archive?
[02:57] <Dasnipa`> the linuxprinting talks about that driver quite a bit
[02:57] <sweet_kate> hi Dasnipa`
[02:57] <sweet_kate> :)
[02:57] <tatters> anyone interested in network security and use ubuntu?
[02:58] <jbzz> hamdan:   http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_4_Plus      <==  Take a look at this page
[02:58] <Dasnipa`> i imagine one of the archive programs supports it... did you read their manuals sweet_kate ?
[02:58] <sweet_kate> no!
[02:58] <JoeBlow> !ubotu tell me about restricted formats
[02:58] <sweet_kate> !rar
[02:58] <ubotu> it has been said that rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[02:58] <hamdan> jbzz : am looking now
[02:59] <ahoora> sweet_kate just search for "unofficial ubuntu" in google and go to first link
[02:59] <_jason> ahoora: that guide is outdated, help.ubuntu.com and the wiki is better
[02:59] <hamdan> jbzz : we are using the Postscript
[03:00] <jbzz> hamdan:   OK.   Maybe that is where we went wrong.
[03:00] <Hoxzer> what would be good client to split vfat partition
[03:00] <superposi> \NICK superposi:personal
[03:00] <jbzz> hamdan:   Are you saying your office uses Postscript or that we are trying ti use Postscript?
[03:01] <superposi> hi at all
[03:01] <hamdan> jbzz : we r trying to use the default postscript
[03:01] <tatters> anyone any idea when ubuntu forums gunna be back up?
[03:02] <gnomefreak> tatters: today 10 am eastern us time
[03:02] <tatters> k, thnx
[03:02] <tatters> lol whats that GMT
[03:03] <gnomefreak> dont know :(
[03:03] <hamdan> too advanced for me
[03:03] <gnomefreak> !forumsdown
[03:03] <ubotu> ubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)
[03:03] <mtlife> if i have a raid1, and 1 disk fails.. and I add a new one, why does it take AGES (like more then 12 hours on 40 gig) to do a resync? and why is my cpu usage 100% while doing it?
[03:04] <tatters> is automatix hosted on same server I cannot download it 404 error?
[03:04] <JoeBlow> i really cant get w32 codecs to work, maybe its cause the command i try on the ubuntu wiki doesnt work
[03:04] <JoeBlow> i dunno
[03:04] <tatters> the script ^
[03:04] <robotgeek> !automatix
[03:04] <ubotu> well, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[03:04] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[03:04] <gnomefreak> oops :(
[03:05] <tatters> hmm
[03:06] <hamdan> jbzz : i have no ideas
[03:06] <jbzz> hamdan:     For the Laserjet 4 Plus I see that our options are:   Postscript (recommended)   hpijs   lj4dith   ljet4
[03:06] <hamdan> jbzz : thats right
[03:06] <tatters> I guuess I should leave it alone then
[03:06] <gnomefreak> someone in here keeps recommending automatix because he/she had no issues but for the biggest part most people have had and will have issues with it :)
[03:06] <jbzz> hamdan:      The one fellow on the page I mentioned suggested the    ljet4 as being fast and the best choice for long text documents.
[03:07] <gnomefreak> tatters: i would say dump it and go with easyubuntu
[03:07] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell tatters about easyubuntu
[03:07] <jbzz> hamdan:   Overall qualiy was good.    Maybe you should try that.
[03:07] <jbzz> hamdan:     The problem is that it will change our modification.
[03:08] <tatters> lol, I guess he dont want to
[03:08] <theSamo> automatix's only issue is adding too much repos
[03:08] <theSamo> if you're gonna add them , why not just so it yourself instead
[03:08] <gnomefreak> tatters: he sent it to u
[03:08] <hamdan> jbzz : but why?
[03:08] <tatters> oh right, sorry didnt realise I another tab pop up
[03:09] <gnomefreak> tatters: you should have ubotus msg in your pm
[03:09] <jbzz> hamdan:     When you make a change to a setting I think it will creatre a new file, not just replace oine line.  But I might be wrong.
[03:09] <tatters> yup got it gnome thnx
[03:09] <jbzz> hamdan:   I would like to be wrong  :)
[03:09] <tatters> not used irc bfr
[03:09] <gnomefreak> yw tatters
[03:09] <hamdan> can i check with the terminal?
[03:10] <robotgeek> theSamo: not true, it also uses a --force-yes in all installation lines, i would recommend reading "man apt-get" for their veiws on that
[03:11] <gnomefreak> i have no use for automatix and never have so from a personal stand point i dont have a clue what it does ;) safer that way
[03:11] <jbzz> hamdan:   Y
[03:11] <theSamo> i didnt too, but i used it anyways
[03:11] <jbzz> hamdan:   I think I am right about that.  I bet it will re-create the file.  Thus the one line we changed would revert.
[03:12] <jbzz> hamdan:   But we are running low on alternatives.
[03:12] <JoeBlow> well, i tries running the wiki to install w32 codecs and all ig et is errors in the shell
[03:14] <Seveas> sigh, are people stell recommending crapomatix?
[03:14] <Seveas> still*
[03:15] <robotgeek> Seveas: sad, but true
[03:15] <gnomefreak> yeah i know one person that does :(
[03:15] <hamdan> jbzz : i dunno...im all dried up
[03:15] <tatters> when I read about ppl should not run as ROOT, is running Root on linux more insecure than running root in windows?
[03:15] <ilba7r> Seveas, no matter your opinion of it it has helped a lot of newbies. Di not use it and did not recommend it my self. But its existance mean there is a need for it or something like it
[03:16] <Seveas> ilba7r, nonsense. It only helps wrecking systems
[03:16] <jbzz> hamdan:   Hold on one minute.  Let me try something.
[03:16] <Seveas> that is not an opinion, it's a fact.
[03:16] <Seveas> And if there's a need to change things: file bugs so the real developers can solve things for everyone
[03:16] <Seveas> instead of boasting some scriptkiddies ego
[03:16] <ccc_> newbies are only helped by learning to do something the proper way
[03:17] <MartinMagnusson> Hi. I just installed Amarok via synaptic, but doing so conflicts with FirstClass, so I'd like to remove it again. Simply uninstalling it from synaptic doesn't help. Does synaptic produce a log file where I can see all that was done when installing, so that I can remove amarok completely?
[03:17] <ilba7r> Seveas, that is my opinion. and if you wana take it further would love a chat at offtopic
[03:17] <Seveas> ccc_, not even by learning neccessarily, but by letting a script ruin their setup they'll only get pissed off :)
[03:18] <virogenesis> i prefer the ubuntuguide over automatix
[03:18] <Seveas> ilba7r, hard fact: recommending automatix will only be rewarded with a ban.
[03:18] <Seveas> virogenesis, ubuntuguide is almost just as bad
[03:18] <tatters> speaking from a 4 day old noob perspective, it seems there is too many ways to do the same thing,its confusing when solutions are interspersed with GUI and CLI answers
[03:18] <Seveas> virogenesis, automatix does what ubuntuguide says - automatically....
[03:18] <Lord> fuck
[03:18] <tatters> they should split up help into 2 distinct sections
[03:18] <Seveas> virogenesis, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com are the official ubuntu documentation
[03:18] <robotgeek> Lord: language please
[03:18] <gnomefreak> tatters: do it both ways and pick what one you like better
[03:18] <virogenesis> wiki.ubuntu.com is unusable
[03:18] <robotgeek> tatters: you might prefer the Ubuntu Start Guide, Click the help button
[03:19] <ccc_> Seveas: exactly
[03:19] <Seveas> virogenesis, then there's always help.ubuntu.com
[03:19] <gnomefreak> virogenesis: give it time
[03:19] <Lord> oh sorry, im prove if the keys are good
[03:19] <ilba7r> Seveas, a ban from a volunteer work that is new. And hardly a humanit to other :)
[03:19] <jbzz> hamdan:   I created a Laserjet 4 Plus connection and selected the ljet4 driver.   I do not see the driver listed in the printers.conf file.  So it must hold the driver in another file.
[03:19] <virogenesis> even docs. gwos.org is better
[03:19] <Seveas> ilba7r, don;t go that way...
[03:19] <tatters> Bu it gets confusing and wastes days finding the right way
[03:19] <nalioth_zZz> Lord: "test" is the four letter word you should use
[03:20] <robotgeek> virogenesis: if you find something bad, comments on why it's bad is welcome.
[03:20] <Lord> tanks
[03:20] <ilba7r> Seveas, again did not recommend it and never used it. But if that is the atitude here thank take care all. bye
[03:20] <jbzz> hamdan:   I would say we are cooked unless we try a change.  So I guess we should try to use the   ljet4  driver.
[03:20] <Lord> thanks
[03:20] <hamdan> jbzz : ok
[03:21] <Seveas> ilba7r, the attitude here is very hard against automatix and other crap like it since it costs us countless hours of helping people repair the damage it does
[03:21] <Seveas> ah, too late
[03:21] <virogenesis> robot a guide to getting pure ftpd to work with mysql 4.1 would be good :P
[03:21] <Seveas> well, let it be a warning to everyone then :)
[03:21] <jbzz> hamdan:   Probably try changing the driver in the printer we already made.
[03:21] <hamdan> jbzz : i've tried the ljet4 driver still not happening
[03:21] <virogenesis> robotgeek,
[03:21] <virogenesis> :)
[03:21] <Seveas> virogenesis, that's not too difficult
[03:21] <tatters> for example enabling wpa on a default ubuntu install, there is some editing of the interfaces.conf file now thats plain txt
[03:22] <jbzz> hamdan:   Well the file might need modified again.  Take a look at it.    cd  /etc/cups
[03:22] <virogenesis> seveas doesn't it involve patching pure-ftpd?
[03:22] <cafuego> !dstats
[03:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu Distro Stats on breezy... 18267 packages, 1641 maintainers, 36109 MB installed size, 11215 MB compressed size.
[03:22] <Seveas> tatters, wpa is not officially supported yet, and lots of work is being done to make it easier
[03:22] <robotgeek> virogenesis: hmm, let me see if the wiki has anything on it
[03:22] <jbzz> hamdan:   then:    cat  printers.conf
[03:22] <Cyorxamp> Hey, I just installed ubuntu and I use 2 monitors from one ghpx card - one is displaying 1280x1024 ok but the other is 'zoomed in' and you move the mouse to look around - how can I get around that?
[03:22] <tatters> now surely it should be encrytped
[03:22] <Seveas> virogenesis, you need: pure-ftpd-mysql - Pure-FTPd FTP server with MySQL user authentication
[03:22] <jbzz> hamdan:   Look for the line having to do with     smb://
[03:23] <virogenesis> Seveas,  does pure-ftpd-mysql support 4.1 out of the box thats the thing
[03:23] <hamdan> at: printers.conf: Permission denied
[03:23] <JoeBlow> somehow my trash icon got deleted does anyonekno whwo to get it back, its not in the add panels menu
[03:23] <Lord> Why i download music from the net with linux??
[03:23] <hamdan> cat: printers.conf: Permission denied
[03:23] <Cyorxamp> does anyone know?
[03:23] <Lord> why i can
[03:23] <mwe> hamdan: sudo cat
[03:23] <gnomefreak> you have to sudo to use cat?
[03:23] <jbzz> hamdan:   in that directory:   sudo cat printers.conf
[03:23] <mwe> gnomefreak: for printer.conf yes
[03:24] <mwe> gnomefreak: it's owned by cupsys with perms 600
[03:24] <Seveas> virogenesis, it uses libmysqlclient10
[03:24] <gnomefreak> ahhhh ok
[03:24] <MartinMagnusson> Does synaptic produce a log file where I can see all that was done when installing things?
[03:24] <tristan> JoeBlow : it IS in the add panels menu
[03:24] <Cyorxamp> Hi, I just installed ubuntu and I use 2 monitors from one ghpx card - one is displaying 1280x1024 ok but the other is 'zoomed in' and you move the mouse to look around - how can I get around that?
[03:24] <JoeBlow> tristan, well i couldnt find it
[03:24] <Lord> i dont know what use to find or download music with linux from internet
[03:25] <hamdan> smb://  line not there
[03:25] <Seveas> virogenesis, but that should work with 4.1
[03:25] <Morfosomo> MartinMagnusson, you can select an installed app in sinaptic and do right click-properties and select installed files
[03:25] <tristan> JoeBlow : it is in the subsection Desktop and Windows when you've clicked right on the panel and choose add to panel
[03:25] <virogenesis> ok i'll try getting them to talk :)
[03:25] <tatters> I cannot find any snort mysql acidlab guides for Ubuntu, is there anything other than this? or is a debian guide I found going to be the closest to an ubuntu installation, or will there be differences and wont work?
[03:26] <deFrysk> Lord, for binarie downloads from newsgroups you can use pan
[03:26] <virogenesis> lord: apt-get install nicotine
[03:26] <mwe> Lord: you shouldn't download music. but dc-gui or azareus or any p2p app would let you do it
[03:26] <Morfosomo> ubuntu is based on debian,.. it should do the trick
[03:26] <virogenesis> :)
[03:26] <deFrysk> Lord, p2p you can use aMule or bittorrent
[03:26] <jbzz> hamdan:   Well that would explain why nothing printed.
[03:26] <Cyorxamp> anyone know about my display problem?
[03:26] <Cyorxamp> I feel like I am talking to myself here
[03:26] <virogenesis> nicotine is thw way to go for music
[03:26] <deFrysk> !anyone
[03:26] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[03:27] <virogenesis> lol
[03:27] <jbzz> hamdan:     Kind of hard to deal with situations like this.
[03:27] <Cyorxamp> look I have already asked the REAL question TWICE
[03:27] <Cyorxamp> and it was ignored
[03:27] <Seveas> !anyone =~ s/You decide/find out/
[03:27] <ubotu> OK, Seveas
[03:27] <hamdan> jbzz : i really appreciate it tho'
[03:27] <mwe> Cyorxamp: please be patient.
[03:27] <hamdan> jbzz : maybe we can try again ?
[03:27] <frazmanw> which instructions shoulf I use to get E17? I see many varying pages
[03:28] <jbzz> hamdan:   I am trying to think of the easiest way to go about this.
[03:28] <Zandaa> hi peoples....
[03:28] <drummer87> does anyone here know what module i need for my nforce3 mobo to get onboard sound working?
[03:28] <robotgeek> virogenesis: i was not able to find anything relevant, maybe you can write one :)
[03:28] <Zandaa> I can officially say... I hate Microsoft
[03:28] <Seveas> hi Zandaa
[03:28] <hamdan> jbzz : ure a good man/gal/robot
[03:28] <Zandaa> seveas, guess what happend?
[03:28] <Cyorxamp> it just narks me that some goon who wants to 'download da music' gets advise but a real problem goes IGNORED
[03:28] <Seveas> Zandaa, hehe, how come?
[03:28] <jbzz> hamdan:   bot
[03:28] <hamdan> jbzz : lol
[03:29] <Zandaa> seveas, I added an extra stick of RAM to my hardware and windows started nagging that my hardware setup was alterated...
[03:29] <hamdan> i hate bill gates too!!
[03:29] <Zandaa> seveas, thus forcing me to re-activate it
[03:29] <mwe> Cyorxamp: maybe nobody knows right now
[03:29] <virogenesis> robotgeek,  i wasn't able to find one myself thats why i mentioned it all i found was a patch sometime ago
[03:29] <Seveas> Zandaa, lol
[03:29] <jbzz> hamdan:   Did you write down the line you entered last?   The best version you had?
[03:29] <Cyorxamp> I just installed ubuntu and I use 2 monitors from one ghpx card - one is displaying 1280x1024 ok but the other is 'zoomed in' and you move the mouse to look around - how can I get around that?
[03:29] <Zandaa> seveas, if it was me I'd have fully switched to ubuntu
[03:29] <hamdan> jbzz : no i didnt
[03:29] <Seveas> Cyorxamp, edit xorg.conf and make sure the 2nd monitor gets a different resolution...
[03:30] <Cyorxamp> Seveas, ubuntu thinks I only have one monitor I think - it beleives the res is 1280x1024
[03:30] <gnomefreak> there is only 2 things that windows does that is much harder to do in linux :(
[03:30] <Cyorxamp> but the problematic monitor only shows 640x480 at any one time
[03:30] <frazmanw> which instructions shoulf I use to get E17? I see many varying pages
[03:30] <CarinArr> hey, is there any way to find out what processes take up memory?
[03:30] <Lord> thanks defrysk
[03:30] <mwe> gnomefreak: what are those :)
[03:30] <jbzz> hamdan:     OK it was something like:    smb://peter:secret@obter5/obter5/Printer6
[03:30] <Seveas> Cyorxamp, then you'll have to teach ubuntu by editing xorg.conf
[03:31] <JoeBlow> is their a way to empty trash through shell?
[03:31] <virogenesis> robotgeek, how about a guide to ripping dvds with acidrip?
[03:31] <Cyorxamp> Seveas, in what way?
[03:31] <jbzz> hamdan:   That should point you in the right direction
[03:31] <deFrysk> Lord, also nicotie was suggested witch is also a nice p2p client
[03:31] <_jason> JoeBlow: rm ~/.Trash/*
[03:31] <virogenesis> i reckon i could do that :)
[03:31] <deFrysk> nicotine
[03:31] <robotgeek> virogenesis: i don't own a dvd writer, so i havent even looked
[03:31] <gnomefreak> mwe: ipod crap and charge for crap :)
[03:32] <hamdan> jbzz : yeah
[03:32] <mwe> gnomefreak: heh.
[03:32] <hamdan> jbzz : shud i open notepad?
[03:32] <virogenesis> i'll do one... robotgeek  i ripped a dvd perfectly the otherday was ace
[03:32] <CarinArr> i have three terminals open atm, and according to free, they take up 300MB of ram.. which sounds excessive;)
[03:32] <jbzz> hamdan:     Well here is where we run into the permission thing again.
[03:32] <Lord> The Gimp for design is too basic, but exist othe program to  design mayor and more complete???
[03:32] <CarinArr> i mean i'm running fluxbox so that shouldn't take up too much
[03:33] <Cyorxamp> How does the xorg.conf need editing?
[03:33] <robotgeek> virogenesis: all you need to do is document what you do, and ppl will add to it :)
[03:33] <jbzz> hamdan:   if   mwe   is around maybe he has a simpler way to modify that file.
[03:33] <newuser> I see that i have nautilus-cd-burner installed, how can I access it? It is not in my Applications list.
[03:33] <JoeBlow> this is so redicioulous, i had an old linux harddrive, and so i just deleted all the folder for it, and now it wont let me empty them, through terminal it tells me cannot delete directories, or it will tell me i dont have premission through gnome
[03:33] <virogenesis> ok then robotgeek  cheers mate
[03:33] <hamdan> mwe : ?
[03:33] <mwe> gnomefreak: Yesterday someone was trying to teach me how superior windows is at everything, and that linux is a toy OS where everything is hard and you don't get your work done :)
[03:33] <Cyorxamp> mwe you there?
[03:33] <Lord> I design characteres for cellphone games and i need athe best program for linux to design
[03:33] <topyli> Lord: gimp is not what i'd call "basic". what sort of design are you talking about?
[03:33] <mwe> hamdan: what?
[03:34] <gnomefreak> lol mwe i find most things are easier in linux than winblows
[03:34] <hamdan> mwe : simpler way to get my printer to work
[03:34] <mwe> hamdan: I don't know if the drivers don't work
[03:34] <gnomefreak> tuxpaint= basic
[03:34] <jbzz> mwe:  actually a simpler way to modify the printers.conf file
[03:34] <virogenesis> lord if you do vector try inkscape its pretty good
[03:34] <JoeBlow> can somone help me empty my trash
[03:34] <Lord> but gimp is not who photoshop
[03:34] <gnomefreak> the gimp is advanced if anything
[03:34] <virogenesis> lord...gimpshop
[03:34] <topyli> Lord: what exactly is the gimp lacking?
[03:35] <mwe> jbzz: hamdan just sudo nano /etc/cups/printers.conf in a terminal
[03:35] <_jason> JoeBlow: I told you, rm -r ~/.Trash/*
[03:35] <Lord> gimp image editor
[03:35] <mwe> jbzz: hamdan or gksudo gedit /etc/cups/printers.conf if you prefer gedit
[03:35] <gnomefreak> topyli: ease of use :)
[03:35] <JoeBlow> _jason, it tells me cannot delete directories
[03:35] <Seveaz> argh@my provider
[03:35] <_jason> JoeBlow: try the new one, with -r
[03:35] <deFrysk> rm -rf
[03:35] <topyli> gnomefreak: true enough :)
[03:35] <mwesto> hi all are there frensh here?
[03:35] <mwe> !fr
[03:35] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[03:35] <Lord> but can i patch photoshop for run in linux???
[03:35] <mwe> Lord: no
[03:36] <jbzz> mwe:  I am not familiar with that editor    I use vi   and I use it as root   this is rough to work him through the modification.
[03:36] <mwesto> ok thx!
[03:36] <JoeBlow> _jason, didnt give me an error msg, but the things are still in their
[03:36] <pappan> mwe: does wine help
[03:36] <Lord> or patch painshop pro???
[03:36] <mwe> Lord: if you have a lot of patience maybe you can get version 7 to work in wine
[03:36] <hamdan> mwe : done that in terminal .. now what?
[03:36] <CarinArr> well according to free something is using 300MB out of my memory
[03:36] <CarinArr> er
[03:36] <CarinArr> wrong window
[03:36] <mwe> Lord: I'm running it in vmware but it's not free
[03:36] <Lord> version 7 of THE GIMP???
[03:36] <pappan> CarinArr: use top
[03:36] <hamdan> mwe : only two lines
[03:36] <X-rayWD> hello people, I've got a Ubuntu problem
[03:37] <Cyorxamp> something tells me I should switch to Mandriva
[03:37] <X-rayWD> lol
[03:37] <JoeBlow> X-rayWD, cant load harddrives?
[03:37] <jbzz> hamdan:   Well guess we can try what we did before since it worked.
[03:37] <topyli> Lord: just learn to use the gimp. it will take less time than messing with windows apps on linux
[03:37] <Cyorxamp> this thing can even use a monitor properly out of the box
[03:37] <_jason> JoeBlow: what things?  maybe you need to do Trash/.* as well
[03:37] <CarinArr> pappan, yeah top says only 5.7% is in use tho.. and 300MB is a lot more than 5.7%
[03:37] <mwe> hamdan: I don't know what you wanna change in the file. isn't the printer wizard letting you choose the driver you need?
[03:37] <jbzz> hamdan:   Are you in the directory    /etc/cups   ?
[03:37] <CarinArr> i'm just wondering cause my machine feels very sluggish all of a sudden
[03:37] <X-rayWD> no, there is a Fatal Error: No Screen Found... and yet, I can see this in windows :X
[03:37] <gnomefreak> the gimp is on version 2.x not anything near 7
[03:37] <Lord> whoa
[03:37] <deFrysk> Lord, sudo apt-get install grokking-the-gimp
[03:37] <hamdan> mwe : been thru the printer wizard..dont work..
[03:38] <JoeBlow> _jason, i type that in exactly like u said right?
[03:38] <virogenesis> lord if you really need photoshop crossover office will allow you to use it
[03:38] <JoeBlow> _jason, all the files are still in their
[03:38] <gnomefreak> deFrysk: whats that?
[03:38] <mwe> hamdan: I don't know why. is it a local or remote printer?
[03:38] <Cyorxamp> Are there any other ubuntu support channels?
[03:38] <deFrysk> gnomefreak, GIMP tutorial book by Carey Bunks (HTML)
[03:38] <_jason> JoeBlow: ls ~/.Trash, are things in there?
[03:38] <jbzz> hamdan:   Hey, maybe we should just delete that printer and start over with a better copy of printers.conf
[03:38] <akairos> hello guys can i ask some UBUNTU question?????????????????
[03:38] <X-rayWD> someone with experience wants to go one on one chat because reading this gives me headaches :S
[03:38] <topyli> CarinArr: maybe something is leaking memor and your machine is swapping. check with free
[03:38] <Lord> to install linux in windows, can i install the two plataforms in one pc???
[03:38] <gnomefreak> oh ty ty ty
[03:38] <hamdan> jbzz: ok
[03:39] <Lord> I need a partition or not??
[03:39] <Seveaz> akairos, not if you keep using that many question marks...
[03:39] <JoeBlow> _jason, yea, it shows some of the folders, but not near all the ones in the trash icon
[03:39] <Cyorxamp> akairos, youll be lucky if they even read what you put in here
[03:39] <akairos> what to do then?
[03:39] <kitty_> Can someone tell me how to convert Ogg to Mp3...?
[03:39] <CarinArr> topyli, heh, i did check with free, it says 300MB is in use
[03:39] <topyli> Lord: yes you can dual boot and choose your system at every boot
[03:39] <_jason> JoeBlow: erm maybe there is another trash I don't know about
[03:39] <Seveaz> Cyorxamp, act normal...
[03:39] <trappist> CarinArr: ogg2mp3
[03:39] <hamdan> jbzz: lets star over
[03:39] <X-rayWD> JOIN #problem if you know how to help someone with an Xserver problem
[03:39] <Cyorxamp> Seveas, thats quite a statement
[03:39] <Seveaz> Cyorxamp, if no one can help you it doesn't mean no one wants to
[03:39] <topyli> CarinArr: 300M of swap?
[03:39] <jbzz> hamdan:   hamdan:   Yes.   Delete the old one and create a new printer.
[03:39] <Cyorxamp> Seveas, nonsense
[03:40] <CarinArr> topyli, no, 300MB of memory, only 1000 of swap
[03:40] <Seveaz> akairos, just ask, don't pay attention to Cyorxamp
[03:40] <trappist> CarinArr: oh.  oops.  yes :)
[03:40] <X-rayWD> JOIN #problem if you know how to help someone with an Xserver problem
[03:40] <hamdan> jbzz: done
[03:40] <Seveaz> X-rayWD, just ask in here and stop repeating...
[03:40] <Cyorxamp> Seveas, you have told me to edit the xorg.cong file - without even saying how
[03:40] <jbzz> hamdan:   Did you choose the ljet4 driver?
[03:40] <Lord> someone tell me what linux auto search a place in the disc for installing
[03:40] <arrinmurr> Lord: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=2631 - there's some kind of howto to get photoshop (cs2) to run on wine