[03:03] <oskude> SuperSub: i assume you want a quicktime plugin for a video player, read what ubotu send you
[03:03] <Gosty> boink: oh no the boy told me something really another
[03:03] <Gosty> boink: i'm so confused now
[03:03] <boink> heh, ntpd :) of course
[03:03] <mneptok> Gosty: what boy?
[03:03] <whitedeth> 4 Oct 13:03:38 ntpdate[22276] : no servers can be used, exiting
[03:03] <SuperSub> ok
[03:03] <boink> what's the closest time server for you?
[03:04] <SuperSub> ;)
[03:04] <whitedeth> how would I find out?
[03:04] <mneptok> whitedeth: sudo ntpdate time.berkeley.netdot.net
[03:04] <Gosty> mneptok: BlueEagle from #xubuntu
[03:04] <boink> well, where are you?
[03:04] <_stippi_> hi, I installed the KDE and Xfce desktop environment along the default Gnome desktop, how can I change the boot+shutdown screen logos and the login screen back to the default Ubuntu theme?
[03:04] <whitedeth> new zealand
[03:04] <boink> ok .. google the closest list from google: time server new zealand
[03:04] <whitedeth> lol, now it's UK time here, thanks mneptok :P
[03:04] <boink> like I would use: ntpdate ntp.demon.co.uk
[03:05] <mneptok> whitedeth: sudo ntpdate ntp.iprolink.co.nz
[03:05] <boink> kewl :)
[03:05] <DivineAnt> Can anyone help me with sources.list syntax, i need tercap-compat in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe but either way i add it, it searches in the dists folder
[03:05] <boink> then set up ntpd to keep the time
[03:05] <oskude> _stippi_: just a wild guess: sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop (but i would wait if theres a "better" solution)
[03:05] <boink> there's nothing like having the wrong time on the computer .. how horrible!
[03:05] <_stippi_> oskude: thanks
[03:05] <mneptok> whitedeth: .nz public stratum 2 NTP servers are here - http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/clock2a.html
[03:06] <_stippi_> whitedeth: where in new zealand are you?
[03:06] <davin> got it, ctrl+L
[03:06] <oskude> DivineAnt: maybe this can help http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:06] <whitedeth> Auckland
[03:06] <boink> ideally you want to use the timeserver closest to you
[03:07] <whitedeth> will it change the time instantaneously? Cos it doesnt seem to be changing anything.
[03:07] <_stippi_> whitedeth: cool I will be visiting NZ / Auckland for half a year
[03:07] <whitedeth> _stippi_: This place sucks :)
[03:07] <whitedeth> Yep, time isnt changing at all. It's getting the right time from the servers, just not changing anything.
[03:07] <boink> whitedeth: it just gives yuor system the proper time
[03:07] <oskude> DivineAnt: my line looks like this "deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse"
[03:08] <whitedeth> boink: And how is one to force the system to use that time as the correct time?
[03:08] <_stippi_> whitedeth: yeah right, you want to keep it for yourself...
[03:08] <boink> then you would use ntpd to keep the time always correct
[03:08] <boink> ntpd will poll the timeserver ever so often to get the right system time
[03:08] <whitedeth> _stippi_: Actually, I hate it so much im leaving at the end of this year!
[03:08] <_stippi_> Does anyone know where to obtain a Polymere theme package installable on Dapper?
[03:09] <_stippi_> whitedeth: You mean somewhere else in NZ?
[03:09] <krang> dammit, why won't gnomebaker try to burn CDs with my CD-R drive instead of my DVD-ROM?
[03:09] <whitedeth> boink: Fine with me, but how do I do it? It still says 1:09PM in the tray while it's actually 2:04 AM.
[03:09] <whitedeth> _stippi_: Nope, going to Australia.
[03:09] <boink> what does "date" say?
[03:09] <mneptok> whitedeth: you probably have the incorrect time zone set
[03:09] <whitedeth> Oct 4
[03:10] <boink> what time? "date" gives system time
[03:10] <whitedeth> mneptok: No way to change it though since it just crashes everytime I try changing anytime.
[03:10] <Gosty> mneptok: so what should i do? reinstall bind?
[03:10] <mneptok> whitedeth: sudo cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/NZ /etc/localtime
[03:10] <dragonfire1> who will help me get through this install this morning
[03:10] <oskude> _stippi_: looked in kde-look.org ?
[03:10] <diminthedam> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25650/
[03:10] <Khamael> is there a way to get xen working in dapper?
[03:10] <highneko> When I change my workspace, the name of it is displayed. How can I stop this?
[03:10] <dragonfire1> I'm in prepare disk I have 4 partions on the HD
[03:10] <whitedeth> boink "Thu Oct  5 02:10:13 NZDT 2006". Perfect. "date" gives the correct time but the tray has it all wrong.
[03:10] <mneptok> Gosty: is BIND actually installed?
[03:11] <Gosty> mneptok: i installed bin9 and bind_utilities
[03:11] <oskude> diminthedam: would help if you post the _whole_ error... with the command that causes it...
[03:11] <whitedeth> boink: Why is the tray showing it wrong? :\
[03:11] <krang> Has anyone else had gnomebaker problems? I select one drive, and it tries to burn with the other
[03:12] <diminthedam> oskude: it was a 'make command' with heaps of output. should i give the command i ran and error, or the whole thing?
[03:12] <oskude> diminthedam: did you do "./configure" first ?
[03:12] <boink> whitedeth: heh, then it could be something in gnome.
[03:12] <whitedeth> wow.
[03:12] <boink> sadly I'm not a gnome expert, I'm learning too :)
[03:12] <diminthedam> oskude: yes, i mean ./configure
[03:13] <boink> I've always used windowmaker
[03:13] <whitedeth> suddenly one day I wake up and gnome is all screwed??
[03:13] <boink> let's hope not
[03:13] <whitedeth> So windows screws up when you install something...but Linux is worse...it just screws up on it's own?!
[03:13] <whitedeth> wow.
[03:13] <boink> but at least the time on your box seems in order now
[03:13] <oskude> diminthedam: did you install "build-essential" package ?
[03:13] <whitedeth> the time isnt "in order" untill it shows it correctly.
[03:13] <KenSentMe> Why can't i see the userrights of files when i connect to a ftp server in nautilus?
[03:13] <mneptok> Gosty: so then all you have to do is edit /etc/bind/named.conf and create /etc/bind/local.zone and put the correct entries in those. you'll be making a network called "local.zone" and creating entries for "foo.local.zone" and "bar.local.zone" and then setting the other machines to use this machine as their DNS server
[03:14] <mneptok> Gosty: i think you should spend some time reading about BIND before doing anything, though.
[03:15] <diminthedam> oskude: yes
[03:15] <oskude> diminthedam: btw, what are you compiling ? sure its nowhere in ubuntu repo ?
[03:15] <highneko> When I open a program in gnome an outline of the windows is displayed. Can I stop that?
[03:15] <nuku> hi which is the best repository to get win32codecs and such for edgy? use seveas dapper repos or is there an actual edgy repository?
[03:15] <diminthedam> oskude: i am compiling gaim-vv. couldnt find it in reps. had to install glib-2 first, it told me
[03:16] <oskude> diminthedam: hmm, whats gaim-vv ? i hope you didnt compile glib to /usr
[03:17] <mneptok> oskude: gaim-vv is like gaim, but with more v's for your pleasuring.
[03:17] <oskude> diminthedam: and the latest news i see is from "Oct 07, 2005" at http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/ ...
[03:18] <sam_k> When I right click to create a new document it give me a option to load premade templates, where do I make these templates?
[03:18] <oskude> diminthedam: and this http://gaim-vv.sourceforge.net/install.html says "Please don't expect it to work." ;)
[03:19] <diminthedam> oskude: gaim-vv is for video conf. i compiled glib with ./configure, make and make install. thats it. i see the news...
[03:19] <sureshot> hey can someone tell me how to make this file an executable file /home/sureshot/Desktop/cedega_timedemo_installer.
[03:19] <oskude> diminthedam: and ekiga wont work for you ?
[03:20] <segfault> sureshot, chmod +x filename
[03:20] <sureshot> thanks
[03:20] <segfault> np
[03:20] <diminthedam> oskude: i need to conf with windows client. they cant get net meeting to run. i need something we both have. skype? no vid for linux
[03:21] <oskude> diminthedam: well, you better ask in gaim-vv forum/list/chat ...
[03:21] <diminthedam> oskude: tanks
[03:21] <hosenscheisser> #ubuntu-de
[03:22] <oskude> diminthedam: and did you read this ? "There will be no further gaim-vv releases, as code will be added to the main gaim program."
[03:22] <mneptok> diminthedam: Ekiga. that's what it's for.
[03:24] <oskude> diminthedam: do if you really need gaim (with video) you could try theis cvs/or such... but i would use ekiga...
[03:24] <BelialMkII> does Gaim support video?
[03:24] <BelialMkII> I though aMSN was the only IM client with that
[03:24] <Bazzi> every other im client has that :)
[03:26] <diminthedam> mneptok: maybe am super thick, but i=havent been able to join any server, when i can chat with a netmeeting person
[03:27] <BelialMkII> Ive resorted to running a Virtual amchine with win2k in it to use cam software, but thats casue the driver for my camera is pretty shoddy
[03:29] <mneptok> diminthedam: i thought your immediate need was A/V <-> NetMeeting
[03:29] <mneptok> diminthedam: in which case, i don't understand the "Ekiga only works with NetMeeting" problem
[03:29] <Arafangion> Kopete is supposed to be able to use cameras.
[03:32] <chris_> Hey, can I delete files in /var/cache/apt/archives ? The .deb files are taking up huge amounts of space...
[03:32] <frogzoo> /12
[03:32] <diminthedam> mneptok: i was hoping to do video conf with a netmeeting client
[03:32] <Bazzi> chris_: apt-get clean afaik
[03:32] <oskude> chris_: sudo apt-get clean
[03:32] <chris_> Thanks!
[03:32] <diminthedam> mneptok: thought giam-vv would work with their MSN
[03:33] <mneptok> diminthedam: like i said, use Ekiga
[03:33] <mneptok> "Ekiga (formely known as GnomeMeeting) is an open source VoIP and video conferencing application for GNOME. Ekiga uses both the H.323 and SIP protocols. It supports many audio and video codecs, and is interoperable with other SIP compliant software and also with Microsoft NetMeeting."
[03:33] <hc> hey
[03:33] <hc> i deleted /etc/init.d/samba
[03:33] <hc> how can i restore it?
[03:33] <boink> heh ... not a good idea there
[03:34] <unfknblvbl> what packages for vlc do i need to load to read .mov files properly ?
[03:34] <hc> boink: i know :p
[03:34] <dondong> hi,people,any1 can help with this:when install a game it echos:.setup7327: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:34] <unfknblvbl> !mov
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mov - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <oskude> hc: mybe with "sudo apt-get --reinstall install the-package-name-that-gives-that-file"
[03:34] <boink> !codecs
[03:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:34] <mneptok> !quicktime
[03:34] <unfknblvbl> thats the word boink
[03:34] <unfknblvbl> ty
[03:34] <boink> asking about codecs is a common one
[03:34] <boink> there are patent/copyright issues
[03:35] <dondong> the problem is what is "libgtk-1.2.so.0"
[03:35] <raul> gnome-art isnt working it closes after selecting an item from menu. What is the reason behind this?
[03:35] <oskude> dondong: apt-file search libgtk-1.2.so.0 would show you which package(s) has that file
[03:36] <oskude> dondong: and i get "libgtk1.2" :)
[03:36] <unfknblvbl> i searched for mov in all 3 of those links
[03:36] <dondong> oh,oskude,ill try
[03:36] <unfknblvbl> but nothing >.<
[03:36] <hc> /var/cache/apt/archives/samba-common_3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1_i386.deb /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.conffiles /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.config /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.list /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.md5sums /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.postinst /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.postrm /var/lib/dpkg/info/samba-common.templates /usr/share/app-install/desktop/Xfsamba.desktop /usr/share/app-install/desktop/kcmsambaconf.desktop /usr/share/cups/doc-root/es
[03:36] <orbin> dondong: what game?
[03:36] <mneptok> unfknblvbl: .mov is usually QucikTime
[03:37] <dondong>  Alien Arena 2007
[03:37] <dondong> :>orbin
[03:37] <unfknblvbl> yeh
[03:37] <oskude> dondong: that must be a very old game ?
[03:37] <unfknblvbl> but innit quicktime apple/windoze ?
[03:37] <dondong> oskude,its  Alien Arena 2007
[03:38] <oskude> dondong: try installing libgtk1.2 "sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2"
[03:38] <dondong> yeah,im aptin'
[03:39] <dondong> k,done,thanx oskude,thanx all
[03:39] <mneptok> unfknblvbl: my point is, you should be using "apt-cache search quicktime" ;)
[03:39] <oskude> dondong: have fun :)
[03:39] <dondong> :>
[03:41] <unfknblvbl> i have mneptok
[03:41] <davidw> any idea why a bnx2 driver, compiled from stock 2.6.18 would not work (showing up as eth2 and eth3 instead of eth0 and eth1!?!?), whereas a fedora core 5 live CD does...?
[03:41] <unfknblvbl> i'm reading the SPM now
[03:41] <malix> hi all
[03:41] <Alakazam_> suppers
[03:42] <unfknblvbl> i installed quicktime-x11utils
[03:42] <unfknblvbl> but its missing video and audio codecs
[03:42] <BreaKIce>  I have added a .ppd file to /usr/share/cups/model/ and restarted cups, but the new driver doesn't show up in system-config-printer on centos 4? did i miss something?
[03:42] <mneptok> unfknblvbl: libquicktime0 - A library for reading and writing Quicktime files  <--- looks rather promising, eh? ;)
[03:42] <xamox> is it possible to disable ipv6?
[03:42] <Mehrdad> when's 6.10 coming?
[03:42] <oskude> !ipv6 > xamox
[03:43] <unfknblvbl> i've got it mneptok
[03:43] <dondong> hope it is not 6.12
[03:43] <malix> I find a bug on Firefox package  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/33840 but after 8 months the bug is still here. I wont help with the solution but I need someone interested
[03:43] <oskude> Mehrdad: when its done...
[03:43] <Mehrdad> when it's going to be done?:D
[03:43] <lexam> lol
[03:44] <lexam> Mehrdad if your impatient you can download the beta
[03:44] <mneptok> unfknblvbl: be aware, Apple changes their codecs about every 12 minutes, so libquicktime will allow playback of some stuff, but not every .mov you find.
[03:44] <lexam> but I wouldn't suggest it unless you report the bugs
[03:44] <Mehrdad> I did it, i'm curious about the final version
[03:44] <unfknblvbl> >.<
[03:44] <lexam> AH
[03:44] <mneptok> unfknblvbl: exactly.
[03:44] <unfknblvbl> ty anyways
[03:44] <oskude> malix: ist that bug in "vanilla" fx too ?
[03:44] <lexam> How is the beta is it graphically different?
[03:44] <jay__> [help] How can i open a wmv file on a webpage with gmplay, it tells "New face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file(~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)", What is wrong? How can deal with it?
[03:45] <Mehrdad> the splash is so cool
[03:45] <DivineAnt> Mehrdad: Ubuntu has a six month release cycle, and dapper was released abot june, so ill guess about december
[03:45] <mneptok> unfknblvbl: if i ever snap and drive to Apple HQ with the RPG, i'll pick you up on the way.
[03:45] <Mehrdad> but other UI elements is same as dapper
[03:45] <unfknblvbl> haha ty mneptok
[03:45] <mneptok> 6.10 gets released at the end of this month.
[03:45] <unfknblvbl> the funny thing is i sell apple in my part time job
[03:45] <highneko> Is there any gnome program to backup everything?
[03:45] <britt> XML::Parser
[03:46] <Mehrdad> DivineAnt, 6.06 was LTS, that's why it took more, 6.10 will be october but when in october is my question
[03:46] <lexam> I can't wait, I'm debating on using the 64bit version or not.
[03:46] <britt> what module do I need?
[03:46] <unfknblvbl> their comps aren't bad for general use
[03:46] <jay__> [help] When i open a wmv file on a webpage with gmplayer, it tells "New face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file(~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)", What is wrong? How can deal with it?
[03:46] <jrib> jay__: install mplayer-fonts
[03:46] <malix> oskude I don't know
[03:47] <malix> how I can check?
[03:47] <britt> hey im trying to compile gaim and I need XML::Parser for perl
[03:47] <britt> which i dont have
[03:47] <oskude> malix: i mean, "ubuntu" doesnt "make" firefox... so try the "vanilla" fx and complain at mozilla...
[03:47] <Dimensions> how do icheck if my php is installed correctly ?
[03:47] <mneptok> britt: there may be a apckaged version via apt, or you could use CPAN
[03:47] <Dimensions> i did apt-get install php5
[03:47] <KenSentMe> Why can't i see the userrights of files when i connect to a ftp server in nautilus?
[03:48] <oskude> Dimensions: make a php file and open it
[03:48] <jrib> ubotu: tell Dimensions about lamp
[03:48] <britt> mneptok: i'm compiling the beta
[03:48] <oskude> Dimensions: ment "run" it
[03:48] <mneptok> britt: the beta of what?
[03:48] <xScrewballx> g-day
[03:48] <Dimensions> ya i have a file of php but can't open it ... in browser ...
[03:48] <Khamael> is it dangerous to use the nvidia beta drivers in dapper?
[03:48] <britt> mneptok: gaim
[03:48] <britt> version 2.0beta3
[03:48] <oskude> Dimensions: do you have a webserver running ?
[03:48] <xScrewballx> i'm having problems with video codecs
[03:48] <mneptok> britt: i meant xml::parser
[03:48] <britt> mneptok: it didnt specify
[03:49] <britt> i assume the newest version i can apt
[03:49] <xScrewballx> tryinf to get stup totem running installed w32codecs
[03:49] <mneptok> britt: you need xml:parser, yes?
[03:49] <britt> mneptok: yes
[03:49] <britt> :)
[03:49] <mneptok> ^^ britt: there may be a packaged version via apt, or you could use CPAN  ^^
[03:49] <britt> lol
[03:49] <britt> just use xml:parser?
[03:49] <malix> oskude I reported the bug to Mozilla also but the problem is on Ubuntu because the version downloaded from mozilla site work without problem
[03:49] <britt> in apt?
[03:50] <xScrewballx> now video's washed out/burnt and stupid totem still doesn't run
[03:50] <mneptok> britt: no, search apt for xml. does it have xml::parser for Perl? if not, install via CPAN.
[03:50] <xScrewballx> uninstalled w23codec and reinstalled vlc
[03:50] <oskude> malix: well, i heard of problems modyfing fx code... so maybe theres a fix, but they are not allowed to modify it ;)
[03:50] <xScrewballx> can anyone help?
[03:50] <malix> on the bug I also reported the difference that I have discovered between Firefox packaged by Ubuntu and the one distributed by Mozilla.org
[03:51] <oskude> malix: as you *have* to "verify" your fixes with fx-devs before you are allowed to modify the code and call it firefox...
[03:51] <britt> got it thx
[03:51] <britt> :)
[03:51] <Dimensions> oskude:  i isntalled apache2 but when i open localhost/hello.php it opens many browsers and says Forbidden u dont have permission to access /hello.php on this server and ..... at bottom it says Apache/1.3.34 at <IP_ADDRESS> Port 80 ?
[03:51] <mneptok> malix: if the problem is specific to an Ubuntu build you should report it on Launchpad
[03:51] <britt> shoudl have looked there first, i assumed apt wouldnt find it
[03:51] <Slim> hi
[03:51] <Wulong> Is there any form for Ubuntu mini install?
[03:52] <malix> oskude is I reported it https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/33840
[03:52] <oskude> Dimensions: then make sure "www-data" user is allowed to read that file
[03:52] <BuzZy> !rep
[03:52] <ubotu> rep: lisp command interpreter frontends to librep. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.17-11ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 30 kB, installed size 96 kB
[03:52] <BuzZy> !repository
[03:52] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:53] <oskude> sorry, cant help you more...
[03:53] <A[D] minS> where i can find amule 0.47c ?
[03:53] <AngryElf> hey all, when I putty(ssh) into my box I get color coding in the terminal but not in emacs -- any way around that?
[03:53] <Dimensions> oskude: how to do that ?
[03:54] <oskude> malix: maybe posting a usefull! site that doesnt work with that bug...
[03:54] <malix> oskude the bug is on every site
[03:55] <oskude> Dimensions: chmod is one way... but how about doing a dir "public_html" in your (not root) users home dir, and then you can access that at "http://localhost/~username"
[03:55] <oskude> malix: well, i have popups depressed, so i havent needed that "feature" never...
[03:56] <linopil> hi
[03:56] <wickedpuppy> BuzZy, still having problems with adding repo ?
[03:56] <malix> oskude just go to a site that have a link that open a popup click on link and the popup open the second time you click on it the popup remain in background
[03:57] <BuzZy> wickedpuppy,  no ;)
[03:57] <oskude> malix: well i hate popups (i open all in tabs)...
[03:57] <wickedpuppy> AngryElf, programming issit ?
[03:57] <wickedpuppy> BuzZy, glad to hear that :P
[03:57] <chromium6> I finally got radeon and drm modules to load for the xserver.  I show a good xv extension, any idea on how to enable DRI in opengl
[03:57] <BuzZy> wickedpuppy,  hehe
[03:57] <UKMatt> If I were trying to create a short .mpg or some kind of video file (from scratch) what software should I use?
[03:58] <malix> oskude so if you have the popup already opened click on a link it seems that doesn't work but the popup don't come in foreground
[03:59] <malix> oskude this doesn't happen with the package istributed by Mozilla
[03:59] <unfknblvbl> mneptok: mplayer works beautifully
[03:59] <Khamael> has anybody who uses the nvidia beta drivers har any problems with it and/or aiglx?
[03:59] <unfknblvbl> shame it had no simple gui
[03:59] <mneptok> unfknblvbl: smashing.
[04:00] <KenSentMe> Does anyone use the nautilus option to connect to an ftp server?
[04:00] <ALMimoni> hi, how can i see status for wget working in the background by terminal?
[04:00] <unfknblvbl> mneptok: i thought you would be excited
[04:00] <malix> oskude attention is not the popup blocked by popup blocker (that open automatically) but a popup requested by user
[04:00] <mneptok> KenSentMe: i haven't used ftp in years, really
[04:00] <mneptok> unfknblvbl: *almost* soiled myself. almost. ;)
[04:00] <str4nd> ARGH! ATi sucks
[04:00] <unfknblvbl> hehe
[04:01] <str4nd> fglrx == symlink to /dev/null ?
[04:01] <KenSentMe> mneptok: well, i do, but nautilus doesn't show me the chmod options of files and folders
[04:01] <mneptok> KenSentMe: have you tried gftp to see if it meets your needs?
[04:02] <mneptok> KenSentMe: talked to someone on GIMPnet's #nautilus?
[04:02] <UnIData> ubuntu 6.10 when ?
[04:02] <KenSentMe> mneptok: i tried that, but i thought maybe it was a bug in nautilus
[04:02] <unfknblvbl> October 26thhhhhhhhhhhhh
[04:02] <KenSentMe> mneptok: i'll try that
[04:02] <UnIData> thx
[04:02] <mneptok> KenSentMe: may be a bug in Nautilus. if so, you should speak to the Nautilus devs.
[04:03] <UnIData> on ubuntu what is the best MTA ?
[04:03] <wickedpuppy> mail server ?
[04:03] <meson_ray> hi all
[04:03] <KenSentMe> mneptok: do you mean #nautilus @ gimpnet or at gnome.org?
[04:03] <mneptok> UnIData: the same as any other Unix variant. your choice.
[04:03] <UnIData> yes mail server
[04:03] <mneptok> KenSentMe: #nautilus on irc.gnome.org (which is part of GIMPnet)
[04:03] <UnIData> ok
[04:03] <KenSentMe> mneptok: ah, ok
[04:04] <wickedpuppy> postfix ... what else ?
[04:04] <mneptok> wickedpuppy: some people really love sendmail or exim
[04:04] <meson_ray> i have ubuntu installed on a 2.5 gig partition, and want to move stuff to other partitions - that i cannot wipe - and was wondering what directories i should move?  will a soft link work for that or would hard be better?
[04:05] <wickedpuppy> mneptok, really ... sodoku fans perhaps .. i mean sendmail fans
[04:05] <mneptok> wickedpuppy: my boss is one of them
[04:08] <kakkl> OMFG http://www.nanoy.org/se.php?id=65 got defaced LOL
[04:09] <meson_ray> does anybody have any ideas?
[04:09] <lokedk> Using the latest ubuntu iso, i am trying to boot it on my laptop but when it comes to mounting root filesystems the splash screen disappears and all i see is black screen with "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel".. and nothing happens
[04:09] <unfknblvbl> whats a good download manager with a schedule thingy ?
[04:11] <Alakazam_> meson_ray, any ideas about what.
[04:11] <Alakazam_> lokedk, try using the safe graphics install option
[04:11] <meson_ray> i have ubuntu installed on a 2.5 gig partition, and want to move stuff to other partitions - that i cannot wipe - and was wondering what directories i should move?  will a soft link work for that or would hard be better?
[04:11] <lokedk> Okay i'll try
[04:13] <lokedk> same thing happens
[04:13] <Alakazam_> meson_ray, i dont even know what you are talking about.
[04:13] <docmur> Hello all
[04:13] <leng__> hello
[04:13] <meson_ray> i want to move files from my ubuntu installation onto different partitions
[04:13] <Alakazam_> lokedk, im not too sure then man. i dont know why its doing that. have you checked the MD5SUM?
[04:13] <docmur> I just upgraded to edgy but my /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd are missing
[04:13] <Alakazam_> meson_ray, why?
[04:13] <docmur> ??? can I use mknod to restore them
[04:13] <meson_ray> because of my partitioning, i had to install ubuntu on a 2.5 gig partition
[04:14] <meson_ray> i have space on other partitions, but i'm not willing to format
[04:14] <Alakazam_> meson_ray, if you start moving rap around, you're going to jack the OS up
[04:14] <Alakazam_> rap = crap
[04:14] <Alakazam_> i need to go buy some cigs, i'll be back in a little.
[04:14] <meson_ray> that's why i'd make a link
[04:14] <Alakazam_> nick Alakazam_AFK
[04:14] <lokedk> Alakazam_: I haven't.. but i have tried with both serveral of thoes i got send by snailmail and some i downloaded myself
[04:15] <userbn> hfdhmcfdkjkkjdf
[04:15] <lokedk> doubt that 10 printet cd's are broken
[04:15] <gondes> #cirebon
[04:16] <userbn> komtol
[04:16] <meson_ray> well if i jack the OS up, that's my fault, isn't it?  i'm just asking how to best do it with the least chance of messing everything up
[04:17] <lokedk> check cd for defects give busybox
[04:17] <vimike> Hi. I'm using xchat2-gnome in 6.06. The "user list" is only a small icon on the bottom left. How can I make it a "list" again that is visible all the time?
[04:18] <Khamael> is there a howto for aiglx and the new nvidia beta drivers?
[04:19] <boink> !nvidia
[04:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:19] <berent> how do u chat on irc on console
[04:19] <berent> any pointers
[04:19] <chromium> finally fixed my ATI driver for opengl
[04:19] <Khamael> berent: bitchx or irssi
[04:20] <berent> irssi
[04:20] <boink> barent: irssi is for grown ups
[04:20] <berent> haha
[04:20] <boink> apt-get install irssi, but it takes a while to learn how to use
[04:20] <lalala> i linke irssi quite wel
[04:20] <boink> bitchx is fine if you're age 13
[04:20] <Khamael> what is the difference?
[04:20] <lalala> bit of a learning curve but not that difficult
[04:20] <berent> do u think i am 13
[04:21] <chromium> fglrx is for the birds
[04:21] <boink> on the internet, anyone can be 13 :P
[04:21] <DrZeus> hi all
[04:21] <ProN00b> i somehow edited my gconf in a place i shouldn't
[04:21] <ProN00b> can i reset it ?
[04:21] <DrZeus> Question: how is it done for having full-duplex sound?
[04:21] <malix> oskude only after you have left I see You are no more connected
[04:21] <berent> how to learn irssi chat onconsole
[04:21] <malix> maybe you miss some messages
[04:21] <oskude> malix: well, i said i had to go home...
[04:22] <beligum> Hi all, I wrote a little essay on the concept and advantages of videohelpdesking on Linux (and FOSS in general), since you're all fellow Linux users/developers, I thought it might be an interesting read: http://blog.beligum.org
[04:22] <DrZeus> does anybody knows how to get full duplex audio?
[04:23] <oskude> malix: but i would call it a feature that popups dont get focus ;)
[04:23] <DrZeus> each time I get sound from 2 sources(webpage, player) they cant.  The first one that was playing keeps the audio, and the other app has no sound
[04:23] <oskude> DrZeus: your audio chip and drivers have to support full duplex (pretty normal these days)
[04:24] <oskude> DrZeus: thats no duplex, full duplex means an application can record and play at the same time
[04:24] <DrZeus> oh, then, i cant hear sound from 2 sources
[04:24] <DrZeus> i havent tried recording actually
[04:24] <docmur> I just upgraded to edgy but my /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd are missing
[04:24] <docmur> ??? can I use mknod to restore them
[04:25] <oskude> DrZeus: i think that has something to do with the mixer and the "audio engine" type you use...
[04:25] <DrZeus> oskude: then, how is it done for being available to listen audio from 2 sources, at the same time(like windoze for example)
[04:25] <DrZeus> alsamixer means I use alsa?
[04:26] <oskude> DrZeus: sorry, never had that "problem" as i dont even want 2 sound sources at the same time (got even system sounds disabled)
[04:26] <DrZeus> I see
[04:26] <oskude> DrZeus: but im sure ubotu knows
[04:26] <malix> oskude its not a feature, attention are not automatically opened popup (popup blocker) but a popup requested by user when click on a link
[04:27] <DrZeus> !alsa
[04:27] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure alsa is selected by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (Alsa Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[04:27] <UnIData> quit
[04:27] <PhilsenAsk> hey guys
[04:27] <malix> oskude and this work correctly with Firefox distributed by Mozilla.org
[04:27] <oskude> malix: got a page (link) to test that ?
[04:27] <PhilsenAsk> is on the ubuntu servers a webgui chat?
[04:27] <malix> oskude I'm preparing it
[04:28] <berent> anyone on irssi chat on linux console
[04:28] <oskude> malix: roger
[04:28] <berent> any tutorials
[04:28] <etienne_> oh my good theres a lot of people here
[04:28] <nate> Anyone know how to setup a bonded (bond0) interface that will work with the network scripts using dhcp? I can only get static to work.
[04:28] <tenner> berent: for what? irssi?
[04:28] <berent> on command prompt
[04:28] <berent> just to know it
[04:28] <BuzZy> when will exit edge?
[04:28] <PhilsenAsk> is some webgui chat on the ubuntu servers?
[04:28] <BuzZy> !edge
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about edge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <PhilsenAsk> is some webgui chat on the ubuntu servers?
[04:28] <PhilsenAsk> is some webgui chat on the ubuntu servers?
[04:28] <PhilsenAsk> is some webgui chat on the ubuntu servers?
[04:29] <oskude> !wait
[04:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wait - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:29] <slop> PhilsenAsk, that's a good way to get banned...
[04:29] <PhilsenAsk> sorry
[04:29] <PhilsenAsk> but it's very important
[04:29] <eXistenZ> No one dares to ban PhilsenAsk
[04:29] <nate> Try asking the question in a manner that makes sense.
[04:29] <BuzZy> when will exit edge?
[04:29] <slop> PhilsenAsk, what's a webgui chat?
[04:30] <oskude> PhilsenAsk: and i dont even understand what you want...
[04:30] <mdcmb> hola
[04:30] <PhilsenAsk> webgui is a Content Managment System and i need an channel to ask somebody who knows a lot of it
[04:31] <tenner> berent: eber tried the official irssi.org?
[04:31] <boink> try Xchat
[04:31] <tenner> *ever
[04:31] <berent> tenner : never
[04:31] <ProN00b> i somehow edited my gconf in a place i shouldn't, can i somehow reset it ?
[04:31] <berent> shud i
[04:31] <oskude> PhilsenAsk: thats better :) if they dont mention a chatroom on their website, there propably aint any...
[04:31] <etienne_> Hi, i'm looking for a ubuntu package how-to
[04:31] <slop> etienne_, what package?
[04:32] <nate> I think he means howto create a package
[04:32] <davidw> is thre a way to change what a device shows up as in sysfs?
[04:32] <tenner> berent: no, never visit any official site if you are searching for any help
[04:32] <segfault> etienne_, search google for debian package how to the process is the same
[04:32] <etienne_> slop: how-to about how the packaging system works to install and maintain them
[04:32] <davidw> eth2 should be called eth0
[04:32] <slop> etienne_, ah ok
[04:32] <nate> Anyone know how to setup a bonded (bond0) interface that will work with the network scripts using dhcp? I can only get static to work.
[04:32] <DrZeus> anybody knows howto get incoming sound from different source, happening at the same time sharing the soundcard?
[04:32] <berent> tenner : when i type irc on my console it opens a window where i donno what to do
[04:32] <iratik> I'm experiencing _severe_ performance loss - I can't ssh in, so I went onsite to the actual server itself (running ubuntu 6.06LTS LAMP w/ ispconfig). When I get onsite, I enter the login, password - nothing , it just sits - this happened yesterday and I solved it by doing a hard-reset (only the boot took 17 minutes, it usually takes less than 2 minutes, and it mostly was while the kernel was loading) - Do you think this is a hardware
[04:32] <oskude> etienne_: you mean for user or for a package maintainer ?
[04:33] <PhilsenAsk> !
[04:33] <etienne_> oskude: user
[04:33] <tenner> berent: when you use irssi, why do you type "irc"?
[04:33] <PhilsenAsk> thanks :-D
[04:33] <nate> iratik: load is probably through the roof. you need to be able to see whats using the most resources
[04:33] <oskude> etienne_: hmm, dunno about that. sorry
[04:33] <berent> tenner: both r same
[04:33] <iratik> nate: What do I look for in top?
[04:33] <slop> etienne_, you could probably google around for one, or check the ubuntu forums
[04:34] <tenner> berent: say what?
[04:34] <jenda> Does anyone have an ide where I could find a setting in xchat to change the default browser? This way it always uses Galeon.
[04:34] <nate> I'd start with anything that's using the majority of resources.
[04:34] <etienne_> oskude: ok because i was wondering about hte graphical interface and also the ubuntu faq says to not mix up deb and ubuntu bpackages
[04:34] <iratik> nate: I looked and it said that system usage was at 8% (but it took about 1.5 minutes to pull up top)
[04:34] <DrZeus> does anybody can hear sound from 2 sources at the same time in ubuntu?
[04:34] <berent> tenner: try typing them same window opens
[04:34] <nate> if nothing is, but you're load is over 3.0 you've got a rogue process sucking up resources.
[04:34] <BuzZy> when will exit edge?
[04:34] <BuzZy> when will exit edge?
[04:34] <DrZeus> does anybody can hear sound from 2 sources at the same time in ubuntu?
[04:34] <slop> DrZeus, i can
[04:34] <nate> just type uptime at the CLI. see what the load average is
[04:34] <nate> it's quicker then top
[04:35] <jenda> BuzZy: If you mean the release of Edgy, then that's planned for october 16
[04:35] <iratik> nate: type uptime?
[04:35] <iratik> well , its taken 12 minutes - but the login just went through , i'll try it
[04:35] <nate> yeah, type "uptime" at the command line
[04:35] <slop> DrZeus, are you talking about for music production?
[04:35] <nate> I know it sucks, I've been in your situation before.
[04:35] <DrZeus> slop: did you configure anything, or it just worked? I can only have audio from 1 source, the next one is muted
[04:35] <oskude> etienne_: you may ask your questions here, and yes even very newbie ones :) for mixing ubuntu and debian packages, its cause debian and ubuntu may not have the same versions of the libraries that the program may need, but it theorey, they are compatible
[04:35] <nate> trying to diagnose an overloaded system
[04:35] <iratik> Load average: 16.65, 17.53, 16.62
[04:35] <nate> yeah something is sucking resources
[04:35] <tenner> berent: that was not my question. if you install "firefox", do you type "thunderbird" to start it? i guess not, but anyway. good howTos on using irrssi are on the main site irssi.org and yyou might have some luck in #irssi
[04:35] <iratik> Thats over 3
[04:35] <slop> DrZeus, when i'm doing music production, i can use more than one source by setting up the JACK server
[04:36] <nate> if top doesn't show a specific process that's using the majority share, it's a bit harder to find it
[04:36] <iratik> nate: So what do I look for?
[04:36] <nate> I'd start with "dmesg"
[04:36] <iratik> is there a way to find the current load?
[04:36] <DrZeus> slop: no, just listening.  I run a media player and it has audio.  I close it and then try to listen audio from a website, and it doesnt
[04:36] <nate> see if there is anything in there about errors
[04:36] <nate> the current load is the first field of Load Average
[04:36] <nate> so 16.65
[04:36] <iratik> dmesg is hardware errors right?
[04:36] <nate> dmesg is info right from the kernel
[04:36] <tenner> berent: besides that the general usage doesn't differ too much from any other irc client
[04:37] <nate> check that and look for errors in scsi or some other device
[04:37] <berent> tenner : but how do i start there
[04:37] <tenner> berent: command-wise
[04:37] <iratik> dmesg | grep <anything i should type here> ?
[04:37] <nate> no just "dmesg"
[04:37] <nate> or
[04:37] <lordi> Im new to linux. Is it 386 desktop version that i need for my P4?
[04:37] <nate> dmesg | less
[04:37] <nate> that'd be better I guess
[04:37] <etienne_> oskdude: ok but yourself, do you use the x package manager or do you do your packaing stuff off the console?
[04:37] <nate> but I'm sure the last 200 lines will tell you what you need
[04:38] <iratik> nate: I don't see anything that looks like an erro
[04:38] <iratik> i'll pass it through grep for 'failed' or 'error'
[04:38] <malix> oskude here you find the example that doesn't work http://www.massimofidanza.it/firefox/
[04:38] <oskude> etienne_: i use apt-get, but people use aptitude or synaptic too, it "really" doesnt matter...
[04:38] <x_rob> lordi: yup
[04:39] <xamox> what's a good light weight file manager, like something for fluxbox?
[04:39] <tenner> berent: try typing /connect irc.freenode.net
[04:39] <iratik> The only thing I get is: [some long number]  cdrom: open failed
[04:39] <iratik> that isnt it
[04:39] <berent> tenner : thats like a good boy
[04:39] <tenner> berent: then go on with /join #ubuntu after you're connecte
[04:39] <tenner> d
[04:39] <nate> you may just have to reboot it and open a window with the primary log files
[04:39] <nate> just monitor it
[04:39] <nate> wait for the hang to occur
[04:39] <tenner> and then start reading lots and lots of docs plus the manpage
[04:39] <tyler_> how long should an initial charge of a new li-polymer battery be? anyone please?
[04:40] <lordi> Thanx x_rob, do you know if the installer (after my xp install) can create a swap partition in my unpartitonated space on the disk?
[04:40] <iratik> On top,  mysql is taking 387mb of on the 'VIRT' column - is this normal?
[04:40] <slop> xamox, try xfe
[04:40] <nate> lordi: for partitioning after the disk all ready has an OS on it I would suggest Gparted
[04:40] <oskude> malix: ok, still, i would call that a feature ;) well, actually, the firefox in ubuntu should work like "vanilla" fx, otherwise itws not allowed to be called firefox...
[04:40] <x_rob> lordi: yes,it should be able too, you've just got to make sure that you make a root partition aswell
[04:40] <nate> iratik: dunno, it's your server. is it normal?
[04:40] <nate> nobody can tell you what's normal on your machine.
[04:40] <noqman> I need to know how to setup a vpn from my linux box into a windows server the windows system is already running vpn on its side but Ive never done vpn from my fedora box; anybody know a good tutorial  that will help me
[04:41] <berent> tenner : thanks
[04:41] <xamox> slop:  thx
[04:41] <tenner> berent: what are you using right now?
[04:41] <slop> xamox, np
[04:41] <iratik> nate: I'll ask #mysql if its normal - but on '%CPU' it says between 10-16% which isn't much right?
[04:41] <oskude> malix: of wait, theres not the trademarked firefox logo in ubuntu, ok...
[04:41] <berent> tenner : xchat
[04:41] <nate> sounds normal for sql
[04:41] <nate> if it were 99%, that'd be your culprit
[04:41] <nate> we have a mail server here with NFS problems
[04:42] <nate> it likes to shoot the load to 100+
[04:42] <nate> but top shows nothing using excessive cpu
[04:42] <nate> it's very annoying
[04:42] <nate> took me a while to find it.
[04:42] <iratik> Is there a way to 'catch' a program that blows the system load?
[04:42] <oskude> malix: i would be curious if that "feature" remains when you compile form the deb-src...
[04:42] <berent> tenner: also how will u open a web browser when on command line i dont like lynx
[04:42] <iratik> dmesg doesn't tell me much
[04:42] <tenner> berent: why not keep using it? you seem to be not really aware of things that you're facing right now, so why change to irss?
[04:43] <malix> oskude I call this a bug and not a feature
[04:43] <tenner> berent: you're in X?
[04:43] <berent> tenner: yes i am in X
[04:43] <etienne_> oskude: ok, i'm just a bit lost. Just installed ubuntu and the only thing i found so far is the gnome app install thing ... anyways i will read up on the subject
[04:43] <tenner> berent: just open a browser you have installed
[04:43] <berent> tenner : what happened for me to be aware
[04:43] <malix> oskude the second popup open but don't come in foreground as expected
[04:44] <berent> tenner: i know but how to if i am on command prompt if i want min overhead
[04:44] <oskude> etienne_: you dont "need" anything else than the synaptic package manager (under administration) but for me, terminal/console tools are faster to use...
[04:44] <etienne_> oskude : i'm used to use a shell as well
[04:45] <etienne_> looking at synaptic right now
[04:45] <malix> oskude I can try to compile from source but as I reported on launchpad https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/33840 there are difference on linked libraries
[04:45] <oskude> etienne_: then i would recommend apt-get or aptitude
[04:45] <oskude> malix: so you mean the "bug" is outside fx ?
[04:45] <malix> oskude may be the bug is due a bug on one of this library. But I need hel to investigate this
[04:45] <tyler_> how long should an initial charge of a new li-polymer battery be? anyone please?
[04:46] <oskude> malix: btw, in what specification does this behaviour (and command) belong ?
[04:46] <diminthedam> my ekiga keeps crashing when trying to detect NAT. Any ideas?
[04:46] <Ti_Uhl> hello
[04:46] <malix> oskude excuse me may be the bug is in one of those libraries but I repeat I don't know how to investigate
[04:47] <gangster> can anyone tell me how to deactivate automount.
[04:47] <iratik> thanks for the help nate
[04:47] <Ti_Uhl> how do i install a sun jdk on ubuntu Dapper server ? there doesn't seem to be anything in the apt repo's. I've added the universe and multiverse resources
[04:47] <oskude> malix: well, my motto is "no one needs popups", so im not so motivated to pursue this :P
[04:47] <valvola> gangster, just open gnome-volume-manager
[04:47] <berent> gangster : edit ur /etc/fstab
[04:47] <malix> oskude I need someone that would help me on find where the bug happen. But this one is just someone thar know Firefox
[04:47] <nate> sorry I can't do more. but it's a lot of diagnostic work basically
[04:47] <nate> just gotta dive in
[04:48] <nate> but I can't really tell you what to look for specifically
[04:48] <nate> you just learn over time
[04:48] <meson_ray> if i start moving system directories around, can i use a hard or soft link to 'mount' the new location in the old location?
[04:48] <rodneyk> what is the best way to upgrade from dapper to edgy, just change the apt-sources?
[04:48] <gangster> valvola: can u tell me clearly coz am a beginner in linux
[04:48] <nate> meson: you could, but why would you need to do so? partitions fill up?
[04:48] <diminthedam> oskuda: u recommended ekiga, but it freezes when detecting my NAT
[04:48] <tenner> berent: just start eg firefox, o i dont understand the problem
[04:49] <Ti_Uhl> how do i install a sun jdk on ubuntu Dapper server ? there doesn't seem to be anything in the apt repo's. I've added the universe and multiverse resources. Anyone ?
[04:49] <valvola> gangster, now i'm not on ubuntu so i can't see, but i think that if you open gnome-volume-properties u can find it easy how to deactivate automount
[04:49] <Soekisan> can anyone tell me how to change my own text color on xchat 2?
[04:49] <nate> Ti_Uhl: sun-java5-jdk - Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0
[04:49] <SkySurfer> Ti_Uhl: I've added java support by getting the official package from sun. It's easy to install.
[04:49] <oskude> diminthedam: then please report a bug... do you have a nat ?
[04:49] <meson_ray> yeah, partition's full
[04:49] <oloff> how do i configure mysql?
[04:50] <Ti_Uhl> nate : that isn't in my repo's ?
[04:50] <gangster> valvola: can u tell me how to open that
[04:50] <nate> meson: yeah you can do it. it's nasty but it will work.
[04:50] <meson_ray> nate:  i had to install on a 2.5 gig partition
[04:50] <oloff> how do i configure mysql. set passwords etc.
[04:50] <narma> hello, I have just heard about the CD burning application brasero (http://perso.orange.fr/bonfire/). I see into a ubuntu doc that I can install it but 'apt-cache search brasero' give me nothing. Is there a way to installe it ?
[04:50] <diminthedam> oskude: it worked before. i have NAT on my dsl router
[04:50] <berent> tenner : let me explain .if u r in command prompt without X server started u have only a prompt and nothing else links/lynx are character mode www browsers
[04:50] <meson_ray> nate:  plenty of space on other partitions, but it's better than installing two OSes on the same partition
[04:50] <nate> meson: my old solaris router had that problem too. I had to sym link across a new disk
[04:50] <valvola> gangster, from a shell or easily with "Alt + F2"
[04:50] <meson_ray> they're both on the same disk, just different partitions
[04:50] <berent> tenner : i want something more quick and easy
[04:50] <tenner> berent: 1643     berent> tenner: yes i am in X
[04:51] <nate> Ti_Uhl: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/sun-java5-jdk
[04:51] <Wulong> Would I get any better performance using resierFS and not Ext3 ?
[04:51] <tenner> berent: what are you babbling about your cli?
[04:51] <nate> Wu: depends on what you do. But I would suggest XFS over resier
[04:51] <berent> tenner : i know but i wanna know that also
[04:51] <oskude> diminthedam: well, it works here, so we need more info... hmm maybe your better off in ekiga chatroom (if theres one)
[04:51] <tenner> berent: just use a browser that doesn't depend on an X server
[04:52] <narma> nobody use brasero ?
[04:52] <berent> tenner : which one
[04:52] <tenner> berent: aka lynx, links
[04:52] <berent> tenner: anything else
[04:52] <oskude> diminthedam: are you using a "pure" ubuntu dapper ?
[04:52] <diminthedam> oskuda: i keep trying. not ekiga chat room yet unfortuately. also do u know much about vmware?
[04:52] <tenner> berent: the only two i use frequently
[04:52] <diminthedam> oskuda: yes
[04:52] <Ti_Uhl> nate : i've added the multiverse repository but i can't find it with apt ?
[04:53] <gangster> berent: can u tell me how to do it fully
[04:53] <meson_ray> nate:  should i use a soft or hard link for that?
[04:53] <tenner> berent: what do you expect from those text brosers? links, links" are the best i have faced yet
[04:53] <oskude> oskude: (does your chat client have tab clompetion for nicks?;) sorry, never used vmware
[04:53] <berent> tenner : fully?
[04:53] <nate> meson: I always used soft
[04:53] <oskude> diminthedam: (wrong nick:/) (does your chat client have tab clompetion for nicks?;) sorry, never used vmware
[04:53] <tenner> berent: fully what?
[04:54] <diminthedam> oskude: i dont understand that q
[04:54] <berent> tenner : ok that was for previous answer of urs
[04:54] <silent_scream> where can i find commads for xchat??
[04:54] <nate> Ti_Uhl: make sure you add multiverse for main and backports
[04:54] <berent> tenner: tell me onething how do u switch between cli and X
[04:54] <oskude> diminthedam: you could allso start ekiga from console, and see if you get any usefull error messages
[04:54] <silent_scream> and generally how to write with colors etc...
[04:55] <daWabbit> silent_scream, There are lists of slash commands for irc all over the web. Just google on it
[04:55] <nate> silent_scream there are IRC specifics commands and then there are client commands
[04:55] <tenner> berent: did you read anything related to linux in general? a howto, a book? anything similar?
[04:55] <nate> which do you want?
[04:55] <oskude> diminthedam: and "ekiga --help" says "ekiga -d" would spit even more info...
[04:55] <berent> tenner : no
[04:55] <berent> tenner : i might have
[04:55] <silent_scream> nate, yes client commands
[04:55] <oskude> diminthedam: and do you have software firewalls installed ?
[04:56] <silent_scream> nate, both
[04:56] <jenda> Is there a way to find out which app is using a port on my network?
[04:56] <nate> jenda: lsof -i
[04:56] <tenner> berent: and you expect people to totally introduce you into this world? dont you think this sounds strange?
[04:56] <kzm> Is amarok broken in dapper?
[04:56] <nate> jenda: or netstat -a
[04:56] <tenner> berent: you might have? yes you should have
[04:56] <kraut> is there any german mirror of security.ubuntu.com?
[04:56] <meson_ray> nate:  sorry to be a bother, but is there any advantage to using hard over soft?
[04:56] <jenda> nate: aha, cool :) pipe&grep and it's exactly what I need :
[04:56] <jenda> :)
[04:56] <diminthedam> oskuda: good idea. says none of the auth protocols supported and auth failed
[04:57] <oskude> meson_ray: hard is mostly faster
[04:57] <berent> tenner: i think i need some quick answers -they will be refreshing
[04:57] <diminthedam> oskuda: no soft firewalls
[04:57] <berent> tenner :my thoughts and knowledge
[04:57] <oskude> diminthedam: then it seems ekiga cant auto detect your nat... (but it shouldnt freeze)
[04:58] <SkySurfer> moi tuoppi! cool name!
[04:58] <oskude> diminthedam: i gotta go shopping, back in 30min or so
[04:58] <theunruled> Hello everyone, how do I install Alltray? I don't see it in the apt
[04:58] <chamo> hello
[04:58] <kzm> And if amarok is broken, what is the recommended application for music playing ++?
[04:58] <diminthedam> oskuda: thanks. have fun
[04:58] <daWabbit> In order to get Alltray to work, I had to build it for Dapper PPC
[04:58] <theunruled> kzm: ncmpc
[04:58] <nate> afk a bit
[04:59] <meson_ray> mostly?
[04:59] <theunruled> Dapper PPC?
[04:59] <daWabbit> Yup
[04:59] <meson_ray> kzm:  rythmbox if it's not too many dependencies
[05:00] <ifrozen> hali (eszem,de olvasom
[05:03] <berent> anyone : whats the command to switch between cli and xterm
[05:03] <mergest> h
[05:03] <mergest> hi
[05:03] <meson_ray> nate:  thanks for the help
[05:04] <meson_ray> oskude:  thanks as well
[05:05] <The_Jack_of_Club> holy cow 910 people
[05:05] <brokendash> so, I was attempting to recompile my kernel the other night, ran out of disk space, and now I can't boot except for "recovery mode".  Can anybody tell me what I should remove so that I can boot again?
[05:06] <kzm> berent: xterm is a cli (command line interface)
[05:06] <daWabbit> brokendash; CD to /tmp and see if the attempted build has put a lot of stuff in there
[05:07] <brokendash> is it possible to browse the console in recovery mode without quitting irssi?
[05:07] <mergest> i got a problem with my grub... i installed a windows system and now i tried to reinstall grub with a u-lifecd with "grub-install  /dev/hda! !! than came an error: "/dev/mapper/casper-snapshot does not have any corresponding BIOS drive." whats wrong?
[05:07] <berent> kzm: i want to go to init 1 or init 2
[05:07] <berent> and switch back to x
[05:07] <jason^> i'm trying to get crontab emails to go to another email address off of the machine but my mail server won't accept<EMAIL_ADDRESS>it needs<EMAIL_ADDRESS>in the from field, is there a way to do that?
[05:08] <sureshot> hey all how to i deltree somthing that has made several directorys
[05:08] <kzm> berent: sudo init 1  (or perhaps 'telinit 1')?
[05:08] <kzm> sureshot, rm -rf (caution advised)
[05:08] <berent> kzm:can i switch back
[05:09] <kzm> I don't remember what the runlevel is, but try telinit 3 or something?  Or look at /etc/inittab
[05:09] <sureshot> i know kzm and thanks but it is in my home directory i think i am safe there am i
[05:09] <sureshot> ??
[05:09] <nate> 1 = single, 2 = regular
[05:09] <nate> debian/ubuntu run levels are stupid
[05:09] <mergest> i readed the howto in the internet but it cant help me :(
[05:10] <kzm> sureshot, you're not going to destroy anything that isn't yours, so go for it :-)
[05:10] <iratik> I'm getting this on bootup (boot is taking 14 minutes, avg is 2 minutes , and avg load is 17.35) - is this error message related?
[05:10] <sureshot> kzm thanks man
[05:10] <iratik> * Starting kernel event manager
[05:10] <iratik> * Loading hardware drivers
[05:10] <iratik> [42949570.83000000]  shpchp: shpc_init: cannot reserve MMIO region
[05:10] <mergest> hda is right and exist
[05:10] <brokendash> is there any way to use the console without quitting irssi?
[05:10] <brokendash> ^^ in recovery mode
[05:11] <iratik> can anyone make any sense of that error message?
[05:11] <nate> broken: define "recovery mode"
[05:12] <brokendash> nate: one of the boot options, as I cannot boot normally
[05:13] <mikeymike> holy moly
[05:13] <mztriz> yeah...
[05:13] <mikeymike> hi
[05:13] <mikeymike> okay
[05:13] <mztriz> lot's of p eople in this room
[05:13] <mztriz> haha
[05:13] <nate> so how does that relate to running irssi?
[05:13] <mikeymike> yeah always
[05:13] <mikeymike> okay ave post away i'm sure someone will help :)
[05:13] <brokendash> nate: I am running irssi atm because I can't figure out how to fix my problem, but its kinda annoying to have to quit irssi anytime I want to check/try a command
[05:14] <nate> you at the console?
[05:14] <ke> Try with screen
[05:14] <nate> or remote?
[05:14] <nate> either use another virtual console or run screen
[05:14] <mikeymike> hey mztriz thats almost like your middle name
[05:14] <mikeymike> lol
[05:14] <mikeymike> shriphani
[05:14] <brokendash> I am on teh console
[05:14] <mztriz> Okay, I have a gateway w730-k8x laptop and I just installed 6.06 drapper on  it but it doesn't detect the internet. Not even with eth01
[05:14] <nate> then use another virtual (alt+F[1-6] )
[05:14] <brokendash> ctrl-alt-f# doesn't work though, none of the other consoles display anything besides a blinking curso
[05:15] <nate> mztriz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops?highlight=%28laptop%29
[05:15] <mikeymike> awesome
[05:15] <mikeymike> haha
[05:15] <nate> broken: then use screen
[05:15] <mztriz> thanks nate
[05:15] <mikeymike> mztriz: i love this channel :)
[05:15] <brokendash> but atm I am trying to find out what I need to do to fix it first
[05:15] <nate> I'm just here to get my own question answered, that's all :-D
[05:16] <mikeymike> o nate its not in there
[05:16] <mikeymike> the gateway
[05:16] <mikeymike> not listed in that
[05:16] <brokendash> I didn't think my question was that hard :S
[05:16] <der0b> brokendash: quit irssi, enter screen -S irssi, then start irssi to get back to the consol, ctrl+a d, to get back to screen enter screen -x irssi
[05:16] <brokendash> I was recompiling my kernel, ran out of disk space, but I don't know what I can safely remove so I can boot again
[05:16] <nate> mikeymike: I make no promises. that site often has the info I need for laptops.
[05:16] <sureshot> kzm thanks that worked had to get rid of cedega it gets tiresome to click yes 10000 times trying to reinstall each file and the uninstaller did not work
[05:17] <mikeymike> nate: k :)
[05:17] <nate> broken: remove the kernel source?
[05:17] <brokendash> nate: and how do I do that?  [I am not very proficient]
[05:17] <kzm> sureshot, unix is your friend. :-9
[05:17] <yellow> hey guys
[05:17] <nate> did you manually download the source or use apt?
[05:18] <yellow> i have a question
[05:18] <Tyle1> Hey there everyone, im having a problem using a printer of mine with Ubuntu, im new to Ubuntu and would like to get my printer working.
[05:18] <brokendash> nate: I think it was manual, but I don't recall specifically
[05:18] <yellow> how do you display international characters in programs in ubuntu ?
[05:18] <jenda> How do I set a static IP for my Ubuntu box in my router?
[05:18] <nate> well if you don't know what you did it's hard to tell you how to fix it
[05:19] <brokendash> where does it store all the newly-compiled data then?  how about that?
[05:19] <nate> jenda: you doing port forwarding or something?
[05:19] <nate> broken: depends if you did source or apt.
[05:19] <nate> that's why I asked
[05:19] <brokendash> nate: where can I look?
[05:19] <Wulong> Why the hell do ubuntu create a 'wifi0' device when eth1 is my wifi card?
[05:19] <der0b> jenda: that would be a function of your router, if your router can do that you'll have to read the docs for it
[05:19] <m|scr34nt> jenda: You can set it in /etc/network/interfaces
[05:19] <segfault> brokendash, dpkg -l | grep linux-source
[05:20] <Tyle1> Hey there everyone, im having a problem using a printer of mine with Ubuntu, im new to Ubuntu and would like to get my printer working.
[05:20] <segfault> Tyle1, what printer?
[05:20] <nate> segfault: forgot some wild cards in there.
[05:20] <segfault> nate, i think that will get it
[05:21] <nate> no, that will match the specific name. to which there is no package
[05:21] <Tyle1> HP All in One PSC 1315
[05:21] <segfault> nate, no dpkg -l will list all installed pkgs | grep linux-source will match any line with that text, which will exists if the kernel src is installed
[05:22] <brokendash> well, the dpkg command didn't return anything
[05:22] <nate> ah I didn't see the grep. I usually just match a wildcard directly to dpkg
[05:23] <nate> my mind sees what it wants to see :-)
[05:23] <Tyle1> segfault, my printer is a all in one HP PSC 1315
[05:23] <segfault> nate, :) me too sometimes
[05:23] <mztriz> nate: that wiki article you sent me didn't have anything I needed in it
[05:23] <jenda> m|scr34nt: yes, that's where I'm now... but I don't what to change.
[05:24] <krzysiek> hi
[05:24] <krzysiek> hi
[05:24] <nate> mztriz: that's all I got
[05:24] <segfault> Tyle1, ull need to read ubuntu docs on setting up cups, u might also need to add hpoj pkg, the rest should already be installed i think
[05:24] <jenda> m|scr34nt: I have the manpage open... but it's difficult to find what I need in there.
[05:25] <krzysiek> how i can make thats thing. i dont want writing mount and umount. i want only when CD is in CDROM dont write umount only click button in cdrom and get out CD (sorry for bad english)
[05:25] <brokendash> so, is there nothing I can do to try and fix this?
[05:25] <m|scr34nt> jenda: I set mine up to be static with the following:
[05:25] <m|scr34nt> iface eth0 inet static
[05:25] <m|scr34nt> address <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:25] <m|scr34nt> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:25] <m|scr34nt> gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:25] <segfault> brokendash, sounds like u dodnt install src from apt, so just remove the src dir
[05:26] <krzysiek> ?
[05:26] <jenda> m|scr34nt: and the gateway part, is that where you put the router's default gateway?
[05:26] <m|scr34nt> jenda: That's where I put the routers gateway IP yeah.
[05:26] <jenda> m|scr34nt: and I suppose you deleted something like "auto eth0
[05:26] <jenda> iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[05:27] <The_Jack_of_Club> a gateway connects to the next router inline or the modem
[05:27] <m|scr34nt> jenda: Yeah, comment out the auto eth0 and change the dhcp to static
[05:27] <krzysiek> how i can make thats thing. i dont want writing mount and umount. i want only when CD is in CDROM dont write umount only click button in cdrom and get out CD (sorry for bad english)
[05:27] <brokendash> segfault: /src is in /usr ?
[05:27] <jenda> m|scr34nt: will do... thx
[05:28] <segfault> brokendash, u couls have put the src anywhere, but conventially it would be /usr/src
[05:28] <segfault> brokendash, couls=could
[05:28] <thread`> so where is the beryl package? I added the repos, but no beryl: deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz dapper main aiglx
[05:28] <thread`> deb http://media.blutkind.org/xgl/ dapper main aiglx
[05:28] <thread`> is it available for amd64 ?
[05:28] <brokendash> k, it has two folder in it, linux and linux 2.6.something
[05:29] <brokendash> I think the "linux" one is not a folder, but a symlink perhaps?
[05:29] <jenda> m|scr34nt: now, how do the changes come into effect... restarting eth0?
[05:29] <jenda> omg... it already did :)
[05:30] <m|scr34nt> jenda: Yeah, restart your networking, or reboot
[05:30] <krzysiek> how i can make thats thing. i dont want writing mount and umount. i want only when CD is in CDROM dont write umount only click button in cdrom and get out CD (sorry for bad english)
[05:30] <mztriz> I have a gateway laptop with networking problems, can someone help me?
[05:30] <iter> ?? ask
[05:30] <gangster> hi am a beginner in linux. i have a problem with my ubuntu. when i insert a cd or a dvd my system hangs completely. can any one help me?
[05:30] <mikeymike> iter: she's asking how to get networking working on it
[05:30] <mikeymike> nothing works
[05:30] <mikeymike> wifi or eth0
[05:30] <iter> ifconfig -a
[05:30] <iter> what do you see
[05:31] <Stormx2> I need to mount a NTFS partition via the dapper live CD. How?
[05:31] <MrKeuner> hi, which utility was it that was checking if the md5sums of binaries proves the md5sums distributed by ubuntu?
[05:31] <iter> mztriz: what do you see with ifconfig -a
[05:31] <mikeymike> iter: she's waiting for the laptop to arrive :)
[05:31] <mikeymike> iter: she doesn't have the laptop yet
[05:32] <Dimensions> oskude:  i have /var/www folder and there i have .php files ... i did chown of them to my user name but still when i open them with http://localhost/file.php it opens dialogue box asking open with ... and then opens many blank pages ... my host name is BILAL does it has any thing to do with it ?
[05:32] <mztriz> iter: it's my friends laptop, she'll be here soon though.
[05:32] <iter> Dimensions: apache1 or 2
[05:32] <mikeymike> iter: do you want her to paste that stuff when she gets it?
[05:32] <brokendash> pbbth, how do I delete a folder?  :X
[05:33] <nate> Why do people that are so urgent to get their question answered, ask with the least understandable questions?
[05:33] <iter> make sure that it has index.php on that line
[05:33] <gangster> hi am a beginner in linux. i have a problem with my ubuntu. when i insert a cd or a dvd my system hangs completely. can any one help me?
[05:34] <nate> brokendash: rmdir
[05:34] <brokendash> ooo
[05:34] <m|scr34nt> jenda: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:34] <Dimensions> when i am restarting apache with sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart it says fail .. Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName and ....  could not bind to address <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[05:34] <Dimensions> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[05:34] <brokendash> can I force it to remove it even if its not empty?
[05:34] <iter> Dimensions: it's cause you're alreading running apache on port 80
[05:34] <mikeymike> brokendash: -f = force
[05:34] <mikeymike> lol
[05:34] <iter> which is why it can't bind
[05:35] <Dimensions> so what should i do ?
[05:35] <iter> do 'ps aux | grep http'
[05:35] <pike_> brokendash: if it contains files rm -fr directory   r is recursive f is force
[05:35] <Dimensions> how i am going to open my .php file
[05:35] <iter> Dimensions: did you read what I wrote?
[05:35] <iter> edit apache2.conf
[05:35] <iter> int /etc/apache2
[05:35] <Dimensions> yeah ...
[05:35] <iter> add index.php to the DirectoyIndex line
[05:35] <gangster> hi am a beginner in linux. i have a problem with my ubuntu. when i insert a cd or a dvd my system hangs completely. can any one help me?
[05:35] <highneko> What's the resize window keybloard shortcut?
[05:36] <iter> Dimensions: now kill apache 1.3 with apachectl stop
[05:36] <Dimensions> iter:  i got this reply ... filter   18822  0.0  0.1   2888   820 pts/0    S+   16:35   0:00 grep http
[05:36] <brokendash> excellent, now I am only at 85% used space, see you on the other side
[05:36] <iter> start apache2 with apache2ctl start
[05:36] <KenSentMe> Does anyone use the nautilus option to connect to an ftp server?
[05:36] <iter> Dimensions: httpd is not running then
[05:37] <iter> that error you get about not being able to determing the FQDN you can ignore
[05:38] <pike_> KenSentMe: you can just type ftp://username@servername in naut
[05:38] <KenSentMe> pike_: do you use nautilus to connect to an ftp server, and can you see the file permissions?
[05:39] <pike_> KenSentMe: when people ask me about ftp i recommend nautilus but i use just the cli myself im not too familiar with it
[05:39] <iter> lftp >> *
[05:39] <KenSentMe> pike_: could you try it for me? The permissions are not shown here and i want to make sure it's not a problem on my side
[05:40] <KenSentMe> pike_: or with my ftp server
[05:40] <davidwinter> hi all. I'd like to install Ubuntu on my MacBook in a dual boot situation.
[05:40] <jozzeph> hello
[05:40] <zircx> blah, can someone point me in the right direction of the latest xgl/compiz howto install site..
[05:40] <davidwinter> I did try Dapper before, but run into problems with grub during the install
[05:41] <zircx> I've been through 150 of the damn things and neither of them worked to date..
[05:41] <jozzeph> i have a  b i g   problem with ubuntu and java
[05:41] <davidwinter> so I'm wondering if anyone has had any luck with Edgy beta + MacBook?
[05:41] <zircx> using Dapper
[05:41] <pike_> KenSentMe: you can pm me your server
[05:41] <jozzeph> i reinstalled ubuntu about 30 times
[05:41] <KenSentMe> pike_: one moment then
[05:41] <jozzeph> and i tried 3 different javas
[05:41] <thanatonaute> Hi. I finally got my wireless usb card to work, but I had to type in bunch of commands.
[05:42] <zircx> configured/installed my nvidia drivers.. i have xgl working, but not compiz, or beryl as it is
[05:42] <thanatonaute> How can I automate this using a script? Where can I put the script?
[05:42] <jozzeph> so  p l e a s e   can somebody help me with java?
[05:42] <davidwinter> zircx: what I did once I had nvidia drivers working was to follow this for XGL: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[05:42] <davidwinter> zircx: then I just followed this straight after: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/InstallingCompiz?highlight=%28compiz%29
[05:42] <zircx> i swear i'm frustrated as hell lol
[05:42] <iter> jozzeph: what's the problem
[05:42] <jozzeph> so i just reinstalled ubuntu and sun java
[05:43] <davidwinter> I followed both of those one after the other and had no troubles
[05:43] <zircx> okies, will it require me uninstalling what I already have..
[05:43] <jozzeph> and java worked!
[05:43] <zircx> okies, I'll give that ago
[05:43] <jozzeph> unbtil i rebooted
[05:43] <davidwinter> zircx: I'm not sure - I guess it's the best way to make sure it'll work
[05:43] <segfault> zircx, just follow the guides on the ubuntu site to get xgl then compiz/cgwd it worked fine for me
[05:43] <jozzeph> i dont upgrade until i solve my java problem
[05:43] <Lard-O-Lad> thanatonaute: you could make a bash script, running it as a cron or add it in your .bashrc
[05:43] <davidwinter> any MacBook users here?
[05:44] <jozzeph> hello
[05:44] <psusi> where does debconf store settings and how can I manually change them?
[05:44] <zircx> beryl has taken over compiz is that correct? or replaced it?
[05:44] <jozzeph> can somebody help me pls with my java?
[05:44] <segfault> zircx, im still using compiz here with much success
[05:44] <zircx> jozzeph: whats the problem with your java?
[05:45] <jozzeph> zircx i tried it 30 time reinstalling ubuntu
[05:45] <Dimensions> iter sorry but i didn't get the point ... adding index.php to Directoryindex line ... when i goto /etc/apache2 which is a directory then ?
[05:45] <zircx> and what java are you talking about?
[05:45] <jozzeph> now i use java sun...
[05:45] <jozzeph> it worked 1 time
[05:45] <zircx> 30 time reinstall ubuntu?
[05:45] <jozzeph> yes
[05:45] <Lard-O-Lad> jozzeph: do you have java or gij (default java package in ubuntu)?
[05:45] <iter> Dimensions: if you installed php with apt-get it's probably been added
[05:45] <zircx> why the hell would you want to reinstall it 30 times?
[05:45] <jozzeph> gij
[05:45] <iter> Dimensions: just need to stop apache and start apache2
[05:46] <zircx> jozzeph: what exactly are you trying to do?
[05:46] <jozzeph> i tried 3 types of java
[05:46] <highneko> What's the resize window keyboard shortcut? Kinda like how alt is for moving windows.
[05:46] <iter> Dimensions: check to see if you have apache installed with 'dpkg -l | grep apache'
[05:46] <oskude> Dimensions: looking for the last post for me, you need to install/activate the apache php module for apache to know what to do with .php files
[05:47] <jozzeph> can i use signed aplets with sun java?
[05:47] <jozzeph> sometimes java works with unsigned applet
[05:47] <Lard-O-Lad> jozzeph: so you can install Sun Java?
[05:47] <jozzeph> yes sure lard
[05:47] <Lard-O-Lad> i dont understand what the problem is :)
[05:47] <jozzeph> it doesnt work
[05:48] <Tokenbad> could a person install ubuntu to 2 different drives to kinda dual boot ubuntu?
[05:48] <xav> does anyone else have problem acceding to this thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=270882 ?
[05:48] <Dimensions> ier when i do dpkg -l l apache it shows me two of apache
[05:48] <oskude> Tokenbad: yes
[05:48] <iter> jozzeph: can you run 'java -version' from a terminal
[05:48] <Dimensions> one is apache 1.3 and other is apache 2
[05:48] <jozzeph> my java applet only works the first time after installing java
[05:48] <iter> Dimensions: right, because you have them both installed
[05:48] <Dimensions> iter:  i have two folders in /etc one is apache and other is apache2
[05:48] <iter> Dimensions: remove apache 1.3
[05:48] <zircx> are you wanting the java plugin or ? the jdk2 development platform?
[05:48] <jozzeph> after reboot it wont work
[05:48] <Dimensions> is it okay if i just rm apache folder ?
[05:49] <jozzeph> the java plugin
[05:49] <xav> oh no
[05:49] <iter> Dimensions: use apt-get remove apache
[05:49] <Tokenbad> oskude, ok thanks...will try that
[05:49] <xav> it seems it randomly happen on every thread
[05:49] <xav> ubuntu forums are dead
[05:49] <zircx> synaptic has the java plugin 1.5 i believe
[05:49] <jozzeph> i installed java now with easy ubuntu
[05:49] <Lard-O-Lad> zirc: he can install it, but it wont run his applet
[05:50] <iter> jozzeph: can you run 'java -version' from the command line
[05:50] <zircx> i see..
[05:50] <jozzeph> on kubuntu it was the same way
[05:50] <Dimensions> iter:  i have removed it ... now ?
[05:50] <jozzeph> yes iter
[05:50] <iter> Dimensions: run apache2ctl start
[05:50] <iter> Dimensions: you should see the error about the FQDN and <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:50] <jozzeph> maybe i should change my resolution for java aplet
[05:50] <jozzeph> screen resolution
[05:50] <iter> but not the one about not being able to bind
[05:51] <iter> jozzeph: if you've tried all these java installs, and the only thing they have in common is your applet ....
[05:51] <jozzeph> sometimes java works when i install mozilla in stead of mozilla firefox
[05:51] <jozzeph> my applet is the 'runescape' game
[05:51] <boink> you mean seamonkey?
[05:52] <jozzeph> sometimes it wqorks with unsigned applet
[05:52] <jozzeph> my java randomly works
[05:52] <Dimensions> iter:  it says httpd (pid19317 ) pid already running  and also the same as Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[05:52] <jozzeph> sometimes it does sometimes it doesnt
[05:52] <iter> Dimensions: do kill -9 19317
[05:52] <iter> Dimensions: then restart ir
[05:52] <iter> it*
[05:53] <oskude> Dimensions: you can ignore that warning
[05:53] <imperfect-> Howdy!
[05:53] <imperfect-> ;)
[05:53] <imperfect-> Anyone know what tons of dirtied inode messages followed by system lockups means if fsck reports no problems?
[05:53] <MissLady> anyone can help me please ? ... I installed Ubuntu on my HDD, my USB Cable Modem don't work but with Live CD it worked.
[05:53] <iter> Dimensions: but yeah it should be running, check to make sure you're not still getting the 1.3 error message
[05:53] <jozzeph> can somebody explain why java sometimes works and sometimes not?
[05:54] <unfknblvbl> java was modelled on a female
[05:54] <iter> jozzeph: how much ram do you have
[05:54] <bouncy> please can someone offer me a little assistance with vsftp...?
[05:54] <jozzeph> ahaha
[05:54] <unfknblvbl> that explains it all
[05:54] <jozzeph> enough ram
[05:54] <zircx> erm java works fine
[05:54] <jozzeph> 524 or so
[05:54] <iter> If you have over 2GB RAM and are running Sun Java, you may be suffering from a known bug with Java's memory allocation. Please contact RuneScape Technical Support
[05:54] <pike_> bouncy: ?
[05:54] <zircx> I don't understand why you're having problems, if you're installing the correct java plugin you should be fine ...
[05:54] <oskude> jozzeph: cause its all 0 or 1, yes or no, true or false, works or doesnt ;P
[05:54] <bouncy> mm
[05:55] <jozzeph> hmm
[05:55] <bouncy> it always gives me the error 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable anonymous root
[05:55] <jozzeph> i could try runescape technical support
[05:55] <zircx> I have runescape running
[05:55] <Gilnim> hi guys: i need a how-to for installing flash on a 64bit ubuntu with firefoy/opera/modzilla
[05:55] <Dimensions> oskude:  and iter when i open any php file using http://localhost/test.php it opens a dialogue box open with and then opens dozen blank pages ...
[05:55] <jozzeph> and it always works zirk?
[05:55] <bouncy> or "child died"
[05:55] <Gilnim> !flash
[05:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:56] <zircx> yes  no problems ..
[05:56] <jozzeph> so what browser do u use zircx?
[05:56] <zircx> standard firefox
[05:56] <oskude> Dimensions: which apache version is runing, 1.3 or 2 ?
[05:56] <jozzeph> and what java?
[05:56] <davidw> how's this udev thing work with network devices?
[05:56] <iter> Dimensions: did you verify that line in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf ?
[05:56] <zircx> i installed 1.4.2 and 1.5.0 i believe it is
[05:56] <Dimensions> oskude:  i have removed 1.3 but the page i open doesn't say any thing ...
[05:57] <jozzeph> is that sun java?
[05:57] <oskude> Dimensions: and which php version, 4 or 5 ?
[05:57] <zircx> yes absolutely
[05:57] <bouncy> pike_: do you have experience with vsftpd?
[05:57] <Dimensions> oskude:  im having php5
[05:57] <jozzeph> what screen resolution do u use zircx?
[05:57] <zircx> either that or someone decided to change runescape to flash and I've just realised my flash works
[05:57] <zircx> lol
[05:57] <zircx> 1280x1024
[05:57] <ardchoille> I plugged in (USB) a Zire 72. How do I find out which /dev/sd<whatever> it is so I can mount it? mount doesn't show it and dmesg doesn't show a /dev/?
[05:57] <oskude> Dimensions: then you need this package too, "libapache2-mod-php5" is it installed ?
[05:57] <zircx> Depth 24
[05:57] <pike_> bouncy: its what i use in ubuntu when i need ftp but not too much
[05:57] <jozzeph> ok i try that again coz then it worked with me too
[05:58] <pike_> bouncy: you have write enabled?
[05:58] <bouncy> pike_: please have you encountered a similar solution?
[05:58] <bouncy> pike_: write isn't enabled in the config
[05:58] <oskude> Dimensions: but i assume this should tell that all https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:58] <zircx> has anyone had any success with beryl and xgl? I know that people use compiz and xgl..
[05:58] <pike_> bouncy: well ive never allowed anonymous
[05:59] <bouncy> ok how about local login
[05:59] <bouncy> that would be ok, then i can work on the anonymous later
[05:59] <zircx> apparently beryl is supposedly taken over compiz-manager
[05:59] <oskude> zircx: no, i havent seen this ;P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryl
[05:59] <bouncy> i set: local_enable=YES
[05:59] <mztriz> iter: I got the laptop and did ifconfig -a
[05:59] <nearfar> no ghostview in ubuntu?
[05:59] <pike_> bouncy: yeah.  its not secure in any way so i only turn it on when someone requests and then back off.  i use sftp normally
[05:59] <knewt> so, i got around it this time, but is there actually any way to tell the ubuntu expert server installer to use specified block devices for the install, instead of going through the partitioner?
[06:00] <zircx> i get it going and then it wigs out on me lol
[06:00] <iter> mztriz: and ?
[06:00] <mztriz> i got link encap: ethernet hwaddr 00:03:25:35:88:04
[06:00] <boink> apt-cache search ghostview
[06:00] <iter> mztriz: pastebin the whole thing
[06:00] <Gilnim> hi guys: i need a how-to for installing flash on a 64bit ubuntu with firefox
[06:00] <mztriz> i can't paste it, but i'm typing
[06:00] <nearfar> boink: 'apt-get install ghostview' failed
[06:00] <iter> mztriz: ok what's at the start of that line
[06:00] <iter> mztriz: the one with link encap:
[06:00] <boink> that's why you should do an apt-cache search ghostview
[06:01] <mztriz> braodcast multicast mtu:1500 Metric:1
[06:01] <iter> mztriz: should be like eth0 or ath0
[06:01] <mztriz> ohh
[06:01] <nearfar> boink: so, gs-gpl?
[06:01] <mztriz> yeah that one was
[06:01] <mztriz> eth0
[06:01] <TheGateKeeper> Gilnim: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[06:01] <boink> if that's what you want, try it
[06:01] <Gilnim> thanks
[06:01] <oskude> knewt: if you want to go hardcore, google for "debootstrap" (thats what the installer uses, afaik)
[06:01] <nearfar> boink: btw, I'm not in gnome. (ubuntu-server + basic X11)
[06:01] <iter> mztriz: ok, and you're supposed to get a IP by DHCP or is it static
[06:01] <mztriz> there is eth0, eth1, lo,  and sit0
[06:02] <iter> mztriz: lo and sit0 you can ignore for now
[06:02] <nearfar> boink: but I'm looking for a 'viewer'
[06:02] <bouncy> pike_:  it doesn't work though
[06:02] <iter> mztriz: eth0 and eth1 are your network cards
[06:02] <ardchoille> What's up with the forums? I keep getting "Fatal error"
[06:02] <bouncy> pike_: i try to login using a user and get...#
[06:02] <mztriz> iter: it's suppose to be DHCP
[06:02] <boink> I don't know if a viewer does exist if you're not using X
[06:02] <pike_> bouncy: ill paste my very basic almost default config file one sec
[06:02] <iter> mztriz: so the network that's plugged in right now has a working dhcp server ?
[06:02] <nearfar> boink: I *am* using X, but just not gnome or kde.
[06:03] <mztriz> um, it's not plugged in right now, but I can do that. (although it doesn't work)
[06:03] <bouncy> pike_: 500 OOPS child died
[06:03] <bouncy> hi thanks
[06:03] <nearfar> otherwise, I could be using evince or kghostview
[06:03] <boink> ok .. then try any of those options under apt-cache search
[06:03] <zircx> ubuntu configures etho cards as dhcp by default from a client side as opposed to static I've noticed
[06:03] <iter> mztriz: plug it in
[06:03] <mztriz> ok brb.
[06:03] <mikeymike> mztriz: there's plugs there?
[06:03] <iter> mztriz: then run dhclient and see what happens
[06:03] <mikeymike> iter: i think she's having hardware issues
[06:03] <iter> if you can see eth0 and eth1 probably not
[06:03] <nearfar> boink: damn! I missed this package with two-character name -- gv
[06:04] <iter> might be tho
[06:04] <mikeymike> iter: ah okay
[06:04] <boink> gv - PostScript and PDF viewer for X <= would that do?
[06:04] <nearfar> :)
[06:04] <mikeymike> iter: if its not hardware issues then its simple config
[06:04] <boink> heh .. good luck, let's see if it does what you want
[06:04] <boink> before installing, check with apt-cache first
[06:04] <mikeymike> iter: she's on campus @ a university
[06:04] <mikeymike> wifi works for her in windows on her own laptop
[06:04] <mikeymike> so its not a connectivity thing unless dapper is silly from the box
[06:04] <bouncy> pike_: where can i have a look at your config?
[06:04] <mikeymike> it should accept dhcp
[06:05] <mikeymike> right?
[06:05] <KevinBooks> Hello all, I am testing a solution for embedded linux and it seems to me it is a _very_ stripped down version of ubuntu. It currently expects a dhcp server, but I want to use a static ip. I've set that up, but when I went to add the dns server to /etc/resolv.conf, it wasn't there! So, where can I add DNS servers?
[06:05] <narma> hello, I have installe apache, mysql, php and phpmyadmin but I can't display a simple file /var/www/index.php firefox want to download it when I go to localhost/index.php
[06:05] <Dimensions> iter:  in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf index.php is already there ...
[06:05] <boink> you add dns stuff in /etc/resolv.conf
[06:05] <narma> how can I do ?
[06:05] <imperfect-> Hey
[06:05] <imperfect-> Anyone here good w/ Lm sensors?
[06:05] <Dimensions> oskude:  i have already installed libapache2-mod-php5
[06:05] <KevinBooks> boink: ok, I thought since it didn't exist, it might use something else
[06:05] <imperfect-> anyoe know about like
[06:06] <pike_> bouncy: it is not a good idea to run like this all the time http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25665/
[06:06] <imperfect-> what the sensor PWN sensor is?
[06:06] <Dimensions> as i had followed the link u gave me ...
[06:07] <oskude> Dimensions: do you have "/etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf" file ?
[06:07] <KevinBooks> boink: yeah, that worked, I guess I shoulda just tried it...
[06:07] <nearfar> thanks! works
[06:07] <KevinBooks> boink: thanks!
[06:08] <oskude> Dimensions: and as the document says "You may also need to actually enable it, by doing sudo a2enmod php5 followed by sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart" does that work ?
[06:08] <Dimensions> oskude: nah i am missing that conf file ...
[06:09] <mztriz> ok i'm back
[06:09] <mikeymike> finally.
[06:09] <mikeymike> :p
[06:09] <Dimensions> oskude: i got this message ...  * Forcing reload of apache 2.0 web server... apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[06:10] <bouncy> pike_:  this is almost identical to mine
[06:10] <oskude> Dimensions: try reinstalling "libapache2-mod-php5", cause that file delivers that config file
[06:10] <bouncy> pike_: but it won't work
[06:10] <mztriz> iter: what do you want me to do ?
[06:10] <dalfz> i have serious crash-problems with openoffice spreadsheet, it crashes often when i change cell contents. anyone else having problems?
[06:10] <SGL> Howdy
[06:10] <oskude> Dimensions: did you read that howto i gave ? it says "apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName - then edit sudo gedit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf and add ServerName localhost at the end of the file"
[06:10] <bouncy> pike_: i use your config, for example, restart vsftpd, try to connect and it tells me 500 OOPS Child Died
[06:10] <SGL> How do I become a sudo-er on my computer???
[06:10] <knewt> oskude: yeah, that's great if you have something already installed on the box. not if you're starting from scratch though
[06:11] <pooru> hey, i was able to map my secondary HD (hdb1) to /media/windows. yet under computer "Local Slave" still doesn't work
[06:11] <xUBUNTUx> anyone uses kiba-dock? i can't change the most of its properties
[06:11] <pike_> bouncy: hmm
[06:11] <hsunda3> hello! does anyone know of a good symbolic math tool in the Ubuntu repos?
[06:11] <oskude> knewt: knoppix ? (or other "live" distro)
[06:12] <pooru> it says that now hdb1 is mapped to /media/windows. is there a way to redirect this?
[06:12] <oskude> knewt: but i didnt actually understand what you really want...
[06:13] <Dimensions> oskude:  im sorry i dont follow that line what would be my ServerName
[06:13] <SGL> How do I gain sudo rights??
[06:13] <SGL> I have the password
[06:13] <highneko> Anyone know how to stop join quit part messages in xchat-gnome?
[06:13] <hsunda3> SGL: execute sudo -i on the command line
[06:13] <SGL> hsunda3: nothing happens
[06:13] <SGL> hsunda3: I just get my $ back
[06:14] <oskude> Dimensions: read the help page... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#head-6ce180906ddbc141ef4b213f82465515a8ad3031
[06:14] <hsunda3> highneko: I have been trying to find that for a long time ... not very successful. Somebody has written a plugin for it though .. (which I use on my Windows XChat)
[06:14] <hsunda3> SGL: now that's surprising ... what happens if you execute 'su -'
[06:14] <bouncy> pike_:  Ha!
[06:14] <bouncy> pike_: I just tried it in edgy and it works perfectly
[06:14] <bouncy> pike_: are you using dapper or edgy?
[06:14] <pike_> bouncy: dapper
[06:15] <bouncy> pike_: me too
[06:15] <SGL> hsunda3: authentication failure
[06:15] <Llewxam> can anyone please help me fix my xserver problem? i got this running somehow but if i shudown or restart i get that black screen again.
[06:15] <pike_> bouncy: how about anon_root=/home/ftp/    ?
[06:15] <bouncy> pike_: but for some reason the vsftpd is borked
[06:15] <hsunda3> SGL: is that the error you get? 'authentication failure' ?
[06:15] <bouncy> pike_: already tried that
[06:15] <oskude> Dimensions: it says "...and add ServerName localhost at the end of the file" so you add that line "ServerName localhost" ...
[06:15] <SGL> hsunda3: yeah...
[06:15] <Dimensions> ummm ...
[06:15] <pike_> bouncy: well its an excuse to upgrade i guess :)
[06:15] <hsunda3> SGL what happens if you try 'su - root'? Same error?
[06:15] <SGL> hsunda3: It says "Authentication failure" "Sorry"
[06:15] <bouncy> well i won't
[06:15] <oskude> Dimensions: as you can see it has another font as the "normal" text on that webpage...
[06:16] <mikeymike> how do you find your local ip
[06:16] <SGL> yes
[06:16] <hsunda3> mikeymike: using ifconfig output
[06:16] <SGL> hsunda3: same error
[06:16] <mikeymike> thank you
[06:16] <bouncy> i've spent 5 months getting dapper the way i want it and I appreciate the extended support, I want to stick with dapper for a couple of years.
[06:16] <Dimensions> yeah sorry oskude abt not getting the point ...
[06:16] <bouncy> i did install edgy in vmware just to check it out though ;)
[06:16] <mikeymike> hsunda3: what is en0
[06:16] <hsunda3> SGL: then there is one thing only I can think of. Reboot, and in Grub boot menu, choose the rescue mode. You will be logged in using a root prompt. Change the password using the passwd command, and check to see if you are in the sudoers file (though not necessary)
[06:17] <oskude> Dimensions: then ask again
[06:17] <hsunda3> mikeymike: hang on .. just a second
[06:17] <SGL> what is the sudoers file???
[06:17] <mikeymike> hsunda3: im on a mac though it might be different..
[06:17] <Llewxam> can anyone please help me fix my xserver problem? i got this running somehow but if i shudown or restart i get that black screen again.
[06:17] <hsunda3> mikeymike: oh. Ubuntu on a mac?
[06:17] <mikeymike> i have adaptors like lo0 and gif0 and stf0 and en0 and en1
[06:17] <mikeymike> hsunda3: no os x
[06:17] <SGL> hsunda3: I did the following: while logged in as this user, I deleted this user and recreated this user. Now I have this problem
[06:17] <mikeymike> hsunda3: im trying to help mztriz
[06:18] <hsunda3> mikeymike: eh? that's most interesting. I haven't seen adaptors like that :)
[06:18] <mikeymike> under en0 my local ip shows up
[06:18] <mikeymike> hsunda3: that might be why
[06:18] <hsunda3> SGL: sudoers file is the listing of who can become root on the machine using their own password
[06:18] <mikeymike> im guessing en0 is my eth0
[06:18] <mikeymike> on the mac
[06:18] <mikeymike> archaic bsd
[06:18] <hsunda3> mikeymike: I am guessing so too... sorry havent used macs much .. atleast not macs on the command line
[06:18] <SGL> hsunda3: where do I find it?
[06:18] <mikeymike> :[
[06:18] <Dimensions> oskude:  and iter thanks alot buddies ... it worked .... now thank you so muchhhhhhhhhhhh.........
[06:18] <oskude> Llewxam: the file "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" contains xservers error messages, you could look there
[06:18] <mikeymike> hsunda3: okay
[06:18] <oskude> Dimensions: and what was the solution/problem ?
[06:19] <bouncy> hey i just solved it
[06:19] <pike_> bouncy: permissions problem?
[06:19] <sholden> Has anyone had any luck using compiz/beryl with MergedFB?  I'm going through dual screen withdrawal, but don't want to loose my compiz perks :)
[06:20] <bouncy> pike_:  I purged vsftpd, deleted all remaining files and directories, and deleted the ftp user
[06:20] <SGL> hsunda3: where do I find it?
[06:20] <pike_> ah
[06:20] <bouncy> i think the user FTP was causing the problem
[06:20] <Dimensions> oskude:  ... i couldn't load php page ... from the server ... it was problem and i guess reason was it couldn't read the server name which was localhost ...
[06:20] <pricechild> hi all, i want to learn how to rebuild lrm, lrmc & nvidia-glx with the latest nvidia beta drivers on edgy
[06:20] <bouncy> because that user was created when I install proftpd
[06:20] <pricechild> could anyone help?
[06:20] <bouncy> i'm so happy!
[06:20] <bouncy> yay!
[06:20] <bouncy> HAPPY HUG DAY!
[06:20] <piratepenguin> what will it take to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10, when it's released?
[06:20] <oskude> Dimensions: hmm, i still get that _warning_ and yet it works...
[06:21] <xav> lol
[06:21] <Llewxam> i see no errors in the log except for one.
[06:21] <iter> ok sorry
[06:21] <knewt> oskude: the volumes ("partitions") i want to install to are device-mapper block devices. the partition editor doesn't have a clue about them. i'd like to be able to tell the installer: "Ok, /dev/.... should be used as /, /dev/.... should be used as /boot, etc etc"
[06:21] <xav> someone managed to post on ubuntu forums that ubuntu forums didn't work
[06:21] <iter> boss was in
[06:21] <piratepenguin> !upgrade
[06:21] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[06:21] <SGL> Where can I find the sudoers file??
[06:21] <SGL> !help
[06:21] <Gotti> when is edgy scheduled for its official release?
[06:21] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:21] <Llewxam> and it's a missing font. other than that nothing.
[06:21] <pike_> SGL: /etc/sudoers
[06:21] <pricechild> Gotti: 26h
[06:21] <dang`r`us> hi
[06:22] <SGL> ahh ok
[06:22] <Gotti> cool...thanks.
[06:22] <xav> why is everyone asking this question
[06:22] <dang`r`us> checkinstall seems to be broken, it always complains about lacking permissions to write e.g. to /usr/bin
[06:22] <oskude> knewt: sorry, never worked with lvm... so i have just used /dev/hda1 and so on...
[06:22] <iter> mztriz: still there?
[06:22] <iter> mztriz: run dhclient
[06:22] <xav> who cares when edgy is released.. man, this is so boring
[06:22] <dang`r`us> but isn't the point of checkinstall that it runs in a fakeroot environment where it can write everywhere?
[06:22] <xav> I wish there wasn't any release date
[06:22] <pricechild> it wil be changed
[06:22] <Tokenbad> is there a partition program besides gparted?  I tried it and let it sit for almost 30 mins and it never finished trying to partition the drive
[06:23] <oskude> Tokenbad: i use mostly "cfdisk"
[06:23] <pike_> Tokenbad: you want to just erase or create new partitions or resize existing?
[06:23] <iter> Tokenbad: I second cfdisk
[06:23] <mikeymike> someone tell me if this network adaptor is working properly by this ifconfig output Eth0   Link ecnap:Ethernet Hwaddr 00:03)25:8B:04 BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
[06:24] <mikeymike> RX Packets:0 erros:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[06:24] <mikeymike> TXpackets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0b) TX bytes 0(0.0b) Interrupt:50
[06:24] <iter> mikeymike: no
[06:24] <iter> not UP
[06:24] <mikeymike> iter: woops
[06:24] <mikeymike> iter: you're back
[06:24] <iter> yeah had to discuss strategery with the boss there for a sec
[06:24] <mikeymike> iter: ah okay
[06:24] <mikeymike> so she did the ifconfig -a
[06:24] <mikeymike> thats her output
[06:24] <mikeymike> the eth0 and eth1
[06:24] <iter> right it's not up
[06:24] <mikeymike> dont have any ip's
[06:24] <iter> should say UP BROADCAST etc etc
[06:25] <mikeymike> yea
[06:25] <iter> but run dhclient
[06:25] <iter> see where that gets you
[06:25] <oskude> mikeymike: dont see any inet addr there... and please dont paste here :)
[06:25] <mikeymike> oskude: i didnt think so
[06:25] <mikeymike> iter: dhclient comes with dapper?
[06:25] <dang`r`us> it does
[06:25] <mikeymike> okay
[06:25] <iter> well if you want to get an IP you better have dhclient ;p
[06:26] <mikeymike> iter: haha okay
[06:26] <mikeymike> iter: its not on my mac :)
[06:26] <scheuri> hi all
[06:26] <pricechild> can anyone here help me with rebuilding lrm an nvidia-glx/
[06:26] <mikeymike> /bin/sh: line 1: dhclient: command not found
[06:26] <mikeymike> :)
[06:27] <iter> is that on her machine?
[06:27] <mikeymike> iter: negatory
[06:27] <scheuri> anyone an idea why all of a sudden an upgrade is asking me for "yes" or "no" because it thinks it comes from a untrusty source?
[06:27] <mikeymike> iter: she said its bound to <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:27] <iter> ifconfig -a to make sure
[06:27] <iter> then ping google.com
[06:27] <mikeymike> iter: okay
[06:28] <oskude> scheuri: have you manually added repos ?
[06:28] <Justm3> hey]
[06:28] <Justm3> ive got the ubuntu cd
[06:28] <Justm3> today
[06:28] <mikeymike> iter: she has an ip now:)
[06:28] <mikeymike> iter: pinging in progress
[06:28] <Justm3> and want to ask qs about the partitioning system
[06:28] <oskude> mikeymike: apt-file search show that dhclient is in "dhcp-client" package
[06:28] <mikeymike> iter: connected
[06:28] <scheuri> oskude: no, happend on a freshly installed ubuntu as well as on my machine...no other repos than those from ubuntu (incl. backports) and kubutu.org
[06:29] <iter> mikeymike: ok she's set
[06:29] <mikeymike> oskude: awesome
[06:29] <mikeymike> oskude: im on os x man
[06:29] <iter> mikeymike: take a look at /etc/network/interfaces
[06:29] <iter> mikeymike: make sure it's correct
[06:29] <mikeymike> iter: how can she config it to wokr
[06:29] <mikeymike> iter: so that her friend doesn't have to run dhclient
[06:29] <iter> mikeymike: should say something like auto eth0
[06:29] <mikeymike> iter: okay
[06:29] <iter> mikeymike: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[06:30] <oskude> scheuri: hmm, and sure theres no "3rd" party repos ? (as backport is not on as default) can you pastebin your sources.list ?
[06:30] <scheuri> oskude: yep...gimme a sec
[06:30] <Khamael> http://tux.crystalxp.net/
[06:30] <xenoNfluX> !sources
[06:30] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:31] <gangerli> hi all
[06:31] <Justm3>  ive got the ubuntu cds just today and wanna install it but when i reach the partitioning step (step 5) i am afraid to make any move as i dunno if something i do will/won't delete my files
[06:31] <gangerli> somebody help me please
[06:31] <scheuri> oskude: still...on a freshly installed machine (alternate 6.06.1 CD) there should not be anything like this...
[06:31] <iter> Justm3: you can easily lose data while partitioning if you're not very careful
[06:31] <oskude> scheuri: if you have backports on, its not "fresh"!
[06:31] <Justm3> plz tell me
[06:31] <iter> Justm3: be sure you know what you're removing etc
[06:31] <knewt> oskude: is there a recommended place to ask about something like this, since there doesn't seem to ever be anyone about here who knows about the installer stuff
[06:31] <iter> Justm3: you have one hard disk?
[06:32] <TheGateKeeper> Justm3: have you got windows already installed on this drive?
[06:32] <Justm3> i have nothing on sda7 and want to put unbuntu in that partition
[06:32] <Justm3> yes
[06:32] <scheuri> oskude: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25668/
[06:32] <iter> Justm3: just install to sda7
[06:32] <gangerli> how do I make sure I have BUP enabled before I start burning CDs?
[06:32] <iter> Justm3: install grub to mbr
[06:32] <scheuri> oskude: on the freshly installed machine I have NOT made ANY thing to the sources.list
[06:32] <mikeymike> iter: so /etc/network/interfaces <<--- edit that to say auto eth0
[06:32] <oskude> knewt: hmm, mailing list, forum, google ?
[06:32] <mikeymike> iter: after that it will work without having to run dhclient?
[06:32] <iter> mikeymike: it should say some other stuff too
[06:33] <mikeymike> iter: right
[06:33] <Justm3> iter: but when i reach the 2nd phase on step5, it gives me options of something like /media/sda5, sda6, sda7, sda1 what abt that
[06:33] <iter> mikeymike: auto eth0 just means try to setup eth0
[06:33] <TheGateKeeper> Justm3: choose manual patitioning and tell it to use sda7
[06:33] <iter> mikeymike: not automatically get an ip
[06:33] <oskude> scheuri: ok, that is not fresh... which repo gives the errors ?
[06:33] <xamox> how do I enabled mod rewrite for apache2?
[06:33] <Justm3> iter: how do i choose to install on sda7?
[06:33] <iter> mikeymike: under auto eth0 it should say iface eth0 inet dhcp
[06:33] <iter> iirc
[06:33] <iter> Justm3: click on it?
[06:33] <mikeymike> iter: so what exactly was her problem then? dhclient fixed it apparently.....
[06:34] <iter> mikeymike: might not have that auto eth0 line in /etc/network/interfaces
[06:34] <gangerli> somebody please :)
[06:34] <iter> that would do it
[06:34] <pike_> Justm3: you could maybe just select it and change the type or whatever to / and tell it to format ext3 or reiser or whatever
[06:34] <Zeral> net.
[06:34] <mikeymike> iter: so if she adds that it should work then
[06:35] <iter> mikeymike: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=105764
[06:35] <Justm3> pike_: so if i just choose sda7 as "/" root, then will my prob be solved?? and should i make all other partitions "/media/sda#" ??
[06:35] <mikeymike> iter: thanks
[06:36] <hoss_bert> I managed to mess up my grub installation (described here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=270736). I'd really appreciated if anyone could help
[06:36] <iter> mikeymike: basically it just needs two lines for eth0
[06:36] <scheuri> oskude: on the freshly installed machine (with NO backports) the ch.archive.ubuntu.com and security
[06:36] <iter> mikeymike: auto eth0
[06:36] <iter> mikeymike: and iface eth0 inet dhcp
[06:36] <Tokenbad> oskude I can't seem to get it to read the drive
[06:36] <jozzeph> hello
[06:36] <iter> mikeymike: it also needs lines for lo of course
[06:36] <oskude> scheuri: hmm, maybe wait a little, or try another mirror...
[06:36] <scheuri> oskude: sorry...the paste is indeed my machine and not the freshly installed one...
[06:36] <mikeymike> iter: okay
[06:36] <jozzeph> i still have a problem
[06:36] <pike_> Justm3: you wont need anything else but swap everything will be created under / you have a swap partition already? you could just make a swapfile under / but thats more involved..
[06:37] <jozzeph> every 4th time i start runescape it won't work
[06:37] <scheuri> well then
[06:37] <scheuri> thansk
[06:37] <scheuri> thansk
[06:37] <twb> Is 6.10b known to (not) work under Qemu (with kQemu loaded)?
[06:37] <oskude> scheuri: btw, i few times had "timing" problems with de mirror, and now using at, i havent had problems since :)
[06:37] <Justm3> pike_: how do i setup a swap partition (do i need to)?
[06:37] <jozzeph> my java applet works about 3 of 4 times and 1 time it does not work
[06:38] <oskude> Tokenbad: hmm, forgot your problem, sorry :(
[06:38] <jozzeph> why does my java does not work sometimes only?
[06:38] <g333k_work> hi, what are the x-windows runlevel for ubuntu?
[06:38] <gangerli> hm, now, is there anyone willing to help? just one noob question.. :)
[06:38] <iter> g333k_work: 5
[06:38] <Tokenbad> oskude, partition of hard drive
[06:38] <oskude> Tokenbad: what did you do, what error did you got ?
[06:38] <oskude> !ask
[06:38] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:38] <iter> gangerli: you just asked it ;p
[06:38] <pike_> Justm3: if you dont have one delete sda7 and then create two partitions from it one small like 256 to 1024 mb depending on how much space you have make the small one swap and the big one /
[06:39] <iter> gangerli: now ask your real question
[06:39] <jozzeph> why does my java sometimes doesn't work?
[06:39] <jozzeph> java should work or not...
[06:39] <gangerli> how can I make sure Buffer underrun protection is enabled before burning Cds?
[06:39] <gangerli> or is it enabled internally?
[06:39] <iter> jozzeph: if you run 'java -version' 4x in a row does it work ?
[06:39] <iter> jozzeph: if so then java works
[06:39] <iter> jozzeph: the problem is the applet most likely
[06:39] <jozzeph> so it works 3 times on a row iter
[06:39] <iter> jozzeph: check the forums for runescape
[06:40] <javier> how can i do
[06:40] <jozzeph> ok
[06:40] <iter> jozzeph: seems like other ppl have this sort of issue
[06:40] <jozzeph> but i didnt see it there
[06:40] <jozzeph> i looked on the main forums
[06:41] <jozzeph> the forums feature a lot of other problems but not mine
[06:41] <mikeymike> iter: if she can get the laptop online (which i think it is now) i am going to ssh ot it
[06:41] <mikeymike> and fix it
[06:41] <mikeymike> lol
[06:41] <jozzeph> contacting runescape does not work on ubuntu
[06:41] <iter> gangerli: http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/linux_beginner_books/unofficial_ubuntu_starter_guide/index_097.html
[06:42] <jozzeph> is there a way to run signed applets for java?
[06:42] <gangerli> thx ^^
[06:42] <jozzeph> is there a way to run signed applets in ubuntu-java?
[06:43] <Tokenbad> oskude, well this can't be good...I have an 80 gig drive...had over 20 gigs free..so was using gparted to partition 20 gigs of it to another partition....now it is saying that drive is full...
[06:44] <oskude> Tokenbad: sorry, i hardly use gparted...
[06:44] <Dimensions> oskude:  i have a simple line of code in a .php just to say hello ... when i open it ... its giving permission error ... while i have also done chown -R user:root /var/www
[06:44] <iter> gangerli: I think that link is old
[06:44] <iter> gangerli: you want to run gconf-editor
[06:44] <iter> gangerli: then browse to apps-->nautilus_cd_buner
[06:45] <boink> !buildessentials
[06:45] <iter> Dimensions: the webserver doesn't run as root
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildessentials - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <oskude> Dimensions: apache is running user "www-data"...
[06:45] <gangerli> well I found the appointed section,
[06:45] <boink> damm .. what's that called? build-essentials?
[06:45] <Tokenbad> oskude, I can't seem to figure out the one you said...
[06:45] <jozzeph> error message on java: unexpected mouse position
[06:45] <pike_> Tokenbad: what does du -ah /tmp say?
[06:45] <xamox> !mod rewrite
[06:45] <Dimensions> ahhan ... my user is filter ... so i can't run any program page made ?
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mod rewrite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:46] <oskude> Tokenbad: and i still dont know whats the real problem...
[06:46] <phatmonkey> i'm having trouble getting the SPDIF coax input working on my audigy 2 card - i can't find any relevant options in alsamixer
[06:46] <gangerli> it's the same, wheter I do it from a terminal or follow the instructions
[06:46] <gangerli> wel thanks again
[06:46] <iter> sho
[06:46] <Tokenbad> pike a bunch of lines of stuff
[06:46] <jozzeph> i smashed my keyboard coz java didnt work!
[06:46] <pike_> last line should be total size of folder
[06:46] <oskude> Dimensions: as i said, if you want apache to show webpages, the user "www-data" has to be able to read those files
[06:47] <Tokenbad> oskude, ok...here was the problem...I had started gparted to partition my 80 gig drive...but it sat for 30 mins and nothing...so I killed it...
[06:47] <hoss_bert> how do u boot into rescue mode if your root partition is /dev/hda3
[06:47] <Tokenbad> pike like 60K
[06:47] <mypapit> of
[06:47] <jozzeph> seems like smashing the keyboard worked for java
[06:47] <Dimensions> oskude:  even if i login as my own user 'filter' to ubuntu i will have to make that user www-data ? ... and how do i enable it ?
[06:48] <Tokenbad> oskude, so figured would try to find something else to partition it
[06:48] <oskude> Dimensions: and an easier way would be to use "public_html" dir in your users home dir...
[06:49] <Dimensions> u mean to create a directory named public_html ?
[06:49] <oskude> Tokenbad: ok, lets start with "sudo fdisk -l" and pastebin the result
[06:49] <xenoNfluX> Dimensions: ...
[06:49] <xenoNfluX> !lamp
[06:49] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[06:49] <xenoNfluX> look that up
[06:49] <TheGateKeeper> Tokenbad: you did press 'apply changes' ?
[06:49] <xenoNfluX> it'll help you with what you need to know for your Apache configuration
[06:50] <Tokenbad> TheGateKeeper, yes...and it sat for like said...30 mins with that little thing going back and forth
[06:50] <Tokenbad> but not doing anything
[06:50] <jozzeph> sometimes my java works after restarting my browser...
[06:51] <oskude> Dimensions: if you do a dir /home/yourusername/public_html" you can acces that with your browser at "http://localhost/~yourusernam" that way you dont have to mess with root user rights...
[06:51] <jozzeph> i dont understand why i am the only one with my java problem
[06:51] <Tokenbad> oskude, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25671/
[06:51] <jozzeph> java should work or it should not
[06:52] <jozzeph> but my java only works sometimes
[06:52] <jozzeph> thats strange
[06:52] <segfault> jozzeph, which java are u using
[06:52] <oskude> jozzeph: yup, java is "strange" ;)
[06:52] <jozzeph> i only use 1 browser
[06:52] <jozzeph> 1 java the sun
[06:52] <oskude> Tokenbad: ok, and what do you want to do know ?
[06:53] <oskude> Tokenbad: *now
[06:53] <jozzeph> sometimes it works 3 of the 4 times it works
[06:53] <jozzeph> all on 1 single program
[06:53] <jozzeph> 1 browser 1 java 1 program
[06:53] <oskude> Tokenbad: and why do you have W95 Ext'd (LBA) ? and why extended partitions anyway?
[06:53] <xenoNfluX> I blame RuneScape
[06:53] <jozzeph> possible xeno
[06:53] <xenoNfluX> RuneScape used to have a bad memory leak
[06:54] <jozzeph> but still i find it strange
[06:54] <Tokenbad> well....see before I started gparted and tried to partition the drive...I had an 80 gig drive...used about 45 gigs..and had over 20 gigs free...so wanted to partition the drive so could use the 20 gig part to do another copy of ubuntu on that partition...
[06:54] <Tokenbad> the lba and stuff I don't know
[06:54] <jozzeph> i hate to use windows now
[06:54] <Dimensions> thanks oskude and xenoNfluX
[06:54] <Dimensions> take care guys ...
[06:54] <jenda> I have serious networking trouble...
[06:54] <xenoNfluX> :)
[06:54] <Dimensions> :)
[06:54] <Dimensions> buhbyee..
[06:55] <iter> jenda: sup
[06:55] <Bergcube> Is there any way to modify the "Log off / shut down" window thingy you get when you click the power-symbol in the tray?  I'd like to remove all but the "Log off" option for the users.
[06:55] <jenda> ifconfig says my IP is <IP_ADDRESS>... my router says it forwards port 55001 to that IP...
[06:55] <jenda> And still the port is closed, according to https://www.grc.com/x/portprobe=55001
[06:55] <jenda> and according to Azureus.
[06:55] <oskude> Tokenbad: and which partition is that you created ?
[06:56] <Tokenbad> its gone...
[06:56] <jenda> I have a Zyxel Prestige modem/router
[06:56] <iter> jenda: do netstat -tap
[06:56] <jenda> And this used to work :(
[06:56] <iter> jenda: make sure port is open on your machine
[06:56] <Tokenbad> now gparted is saying I have the 80 gig drive but 75 of it is used
[06:56] <pooru> anyone good at configuring secondary NTFS drives?
[06:56] <jenda> iter: which part of netstat -tap is useful?
[06:56] <jenda> And how do I 'open' the port on the PC?
[06:56] <oskude> Tokenbad: as i said, i have no idea of gparted...
[06:56] <iter> jenda: you're looking for Local Address
[06:57] <iter> jenda: should say something liek localhost:55001
[06:57] <iter> jenda: and state should eb LISTEN
[06:57] <mikeymike> iter: is there a way to avoid routers not allowing port 22 by assing ssh to a different port?
[06:57] <oskude> Tokenbad: and i think that "fdisk -l" should show unpartitioned space if there where any, so you have all space partitioned...
[06:57] <iter> jenda: actually should be *:55001 not localhost:55001
[06:57] <pooru> i'm having trouble getting the "Local Slave" drive to work under "Computer"
[06:58] <iter> mikeymike: edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[06:58] <jenda> iter: nothing there.
[06:58] <jenda> How can I open it?
[06:58] <oskude> Tokenbad: is the hdd used yet ?
[06:58] <nosilver4u> hey, i'm trying to get canon brightq printer drivers to work
[06:58] <mikeymike> iter: okay
[06:58] <iter> jenda: if you're sure that your software is running you might have a firewall
[06:58] <nosilver4u> it keeps giving me some sort of permissions error when i run te config utiity
[06:59] <oskude>  Tokenbad as i would get rid of that hdd2 with any means...
[06:59] <mikeymike> iter: after editing that config how do you refresh it?
[06:59] <mikeymike> is it live?
[06:59] <iter> mikeymike: /etc/inid.d/ssh restart
[06:59] <nosilver4u> it works in gentoo, and it used to work in ubuntu (breezy), any ideas what has changed with the cups config?
[06:59] <mikeymike> ok
[06:59] <oskude> Tokenbad: you know you can have upto 4 primary partitions, so no need for extended ?
[06:59] <jenda> iter: most certainly not... default ubuntu, mostly.
[06:59] <brian_> I'm havine problems with Boson packages I can't get any music I have sound. but I get an error loading whatever .mp3 file boson is trying to play I have libvorbis libopenal and all dev libs installed
[07:00] <iter> jenda: can you do 'telnet localhost 55001'
[07:00] <garth_> allo
[07:00] <graveson> can vmware use the video adapter directly- i notice it use something called vmware svga driver ?
[07:00] <garth_> can I talk about bit torrents here, getting real slow speeds
[07:00] <vanisher> quick question, is partitioning still needed or is one partition just enough (/)
[07:00] <iter> garth_: it's not a bug it's a feature ;\
[07:00] <imperfect-> Can someo
[07:00] <oskude> garth_: and you think thats ubuntus fault ?
[07:01] <Web> anyone feel like answering a question for an ubuntu newb?
[07:01] <iter> Web: shoot
[07:01] <jvai> garth: bump up your upload speed
[07:01] <Tokenbad> oskude, I didn't actually make the extended
[07:01] <oskude> vanisher: i allways have only / and swap...
[07:01] <Web> concerns File Sharing and using existing NTFS patitioned hard drives
[07:01] <vanisher> rgr, lol i'm still in vmware esx mode ;)
[07:01] <garth_> yup, maybe when i dowload to disk i get 40kb, on bitorent i get 1.5kb
[07:01] <nosilver4u> graveson: no, it can't
[07:01] <brian_> Who ever packaged the Boson debs did a poor job most of the dependancy are left out and you have to mark them manually :(
[07:01] <Tokenbad> oskude, and yes the 80 gig drive has 45 gigs of stuff on it
[07:01] <oskude> vanisher: means, / and swap are required (you could do without swap, but is not recommended)
[07:02] <jenda> iter: connected...
[07:02] <mikeymike> iter: any ideas as to what port i could reassign sshd to to get around typical university router-gayness
[07:02] <garth_> how do i register
[07:02] <iter> jenda: ok so your machine is listening
[07:02] <garth_> web_ give it a go
[07:02] <oskude> Tokenbad: i hope youre not talking about partition resizing ?
[07:02] <iter> mikeymike: if they're blocking incoming port 22 they are pretty tight-ass
[07:02] <brian_> I'm almost to the point to where i'm going to compile boson myself
[07:02] <mikeymike> iter: yeah...
[07:02] <vanisher> oskude: Thx! trying to convert from windows ;-)
[07:02] <bartist> hello everybody
[07:02] <bartist> do somebody know if can i run VBA macros in openoffice?
[07:03] <mikeymike> iter: i cant even get her ip address.. it keeps giving me a local 192
[07:03] <iter> mikeymike: might try a high port >1024
[07:03] <imperfect-> CPU_PWM
[07:03] <mikeymike> iter: even when she goes to ipchicken.com
[07:03] <imperfect-> Anyone know what that is?
[07:03] <mikeymike> it gives her some 192 address
[07:03] <imperfect-> as a sensor?
[07:03] <Tokenbad> oskude, no..I have 2 drives...a small 6 gig drive and an 80 gig drive...the 80 gig drive was what i wanted to partition
[07:03] <Web> If I install Ubunto Server over an existing Windows Server, can I then share existing Drives, seperate physical drives, that are patritioned in NTFS?
[07:03] <iter> mikeymike: is that the same address as her machine gets?
[07:03] <iter> mikeymike: thought it was a 172. address
[07:03] <mikeymike> iter: let me have her do if config again
[07:03] <oskude> Tokenbad: yes, i know... but still dont really know whats the problem...
[07:03] <iter> mikeymike: also go to whatismyip.com
[07:04] <oskude> Tokenbad: i need commands and errors :)
[07:04] <mikeymike> iter: 2 of those type sites gave me the same 192 address
[07:04] <mikeymike> <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:04] <jenda> iter: any ideas, then?
[07:04] <iter> jenda: can you do telnet <IP_ADDRESS> 55001
[07:04] <C-O-L-T> hello when I am inserting pictures to OO Impress than OO crashes what to do
[07:05] <Web> If I install Ubunto Server over an existing Windows Server, can I then share existing Drives, seperate physical drives, that are patritioned in NTFS?
[07:05] <jenda> iter: connected...
[07:05] <atoponce> where can i find a list of the non-free software that ubuntu ships with?
[07:05] <mikeymike> iter: <IP_ADDRESS> is lan isn't it.....
[07:05] <mikeymike> how are these webpages giving her her lan address....
[07:05] <iter> jenda: machine is configured ok then, time to double/triple check your router config
[07:06] <oskude> C-O-L-T: i would test another (format) pictures and see if it crashes again...
[07:06] <mikeymike> some weird tunneling going on
[07:06] <iter> mikeymike: 192.122 isn't private
[07:06] <darkanyel> anyone can help me to configure a webcam???
[07:06] <mikeymike> its not?
[07:06] <iter> mikeymike: 192.168 is
[07:06] <mikeymike> iter: ah
[07:06] <jenda> iter, I have :(
[07:06] <C-O-L-T> oskude: but it is jpg
[07:06] <C-O-L-T> oskude: should I reinstall?
[07:06] <oskude> C-O-L-T: ... why reinstall ?
[07:07] <bartist> I have a 30GB drive
[07:07] <bartist> how much GB should I attribute to my root, home and swap partition?
[07:07] <oskude> C-O-L-T: im just suggesting to narrow down the cause of the problem...
[07:07] <we2by> firefox is frozen :(
[07:07] <C-O-L-T> oskude: to solve that problem
[07:07] <Tokenbad> oskude, ok so tried  cfdisk /dev/hdd  and it gave error saying can't read drive
[07:07] <C-O-L-T> oskude: it does the same with every picture
[07:07] <oskude> bartist: i never have swap bigger than 1gb
[07:07] <C-O-L-T> format
[07:07] <vanisher> bartist: just heared that 2 partitions are enough, one / and one swap
[07:07] <garth_> hate to do it agian but if I am downloading at 35KB and bitorrents is downloading at 1,5KB surely something is wrong
[07:07] <oskude> Tokenbad: did you reboot after gparted "freezed" ?
[07:07] <bartist> oskude, now i am running with a 1gb swap
[07:08] <bartist> oskude, but it is never used
[07:08] <Tokenbad> oskude, yes
[07:08] <oskude> C-O-L-T: have you searched google if others have the same problem ?
[07:08] <mikeymike> hey iter how do you start sshd
[07:08] <Web>  If I install Ubunto Server over an existing Windows Server, can I then share existing Drives, seperate physical drives, that are patritioned in NTFS?
[07:08] <garth_> and can some body let me know how to register my nickname?
[07:08] <bartist> so, of my 30GB, there is 1GB of swap.
[07:08] <bartist> how should i divide the 29GB remaining?
[07:08] <eracc> What is the apt-* command to download/install security updates only please?
[07:08] <iter> mikeymike: /etc/init.d/ssh start
[07:09] <mikeymike> thanks
[07:09] <atoponce> basically, i'm looking for the non-free software in the restricted repo that ships by default
[07:09] <mjr> bartist, don't. make it a single root partition.
[07:09] <iter> Web: are you asking if you can overwrite windows server partition or what
[07:09] <sheshu> hi
[07:09] <oskude> bartist: for root i would do atleast 5-8gb (but i got all in / so i got the rest of hd)
[07:09] <eracc> Or for that matter what is the apt-* command to download and install all updates?
[07:09] <iter> Web: you can install ubuntu server and then see/access ntfs drives, yes
[07:10] <iter> Web: ntfs support is not rock solid yet though
[07:10] <iter> Web: would not recommend it for production
[07:10] <mikeymike> iter:  /etc/init.d/ssh start
[07:10] <oskude> bartist: actually i got 2 ubuntus on a 20gb drive here :)
[07:10] <mikeymike> bash: /etc/init.d/ssh: No such file or directory
[07:10] <bartist> do you recommand to separate the /home from /?
[07:10] <garth_> register..............me.......name.................can anyone help please????
[07:10] <Cornelius> !mplayer
[07:10] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[07:10] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[07:10] <dark_light> garth_, /nickserv help register
[07:10] <mikeymike> iter: did you mean sshd -start ??
[07:11] <oskude> bartist: i used to, but then one was full and the other had plenty of space... i dont see any reason to make own partition for home
[07:11] <iter> mikeymike: try taht
[07:11] <Web> hmmm ok thanks for the info iter
 Web: would not recommend it for production > ideed the web is very unstable :)
[07:11] <bartist> oskude, here is my situation
[07:11] <bartist> oskude, i have 1GB swap and 20GB root
[07:11] <mikeymike> iter: eh...
[07:11] <mikeymike> im not sure
[07:11] <mikeymike> if thats working
[07:11] <bartist> I want to reinstall a fresh ubuntu
[07:11] <mikeymike> lol
[07:11] <mikeymike> no command
[07:12] <bartist> without loosing my home
[07:12] <iter> mikeymike: /usr/sbin/sshd
[07:12] <bartist> what can i do?
[07:12] <rodneyk> sudo is for pussies!
[07:12] <vanisher> bartist: tar them to a network drive
[07:12] <mikeymike> iter: thanks much
[07:12] <oskude> bartist: backup your home
[07:12] <bartist> vanisher, i have not acces to a network drive
[07:13] <bartist> oskude, isn't there a way to delete everything but my home?
[07:13] <oskude> bartist: but thats another thing i never do, i do fresh install of my home too (i got "my files" somewhere else)
[07:13] <dark_light> bartist, it's just a matter to when partitioning only format the / and swap
[07:13] <skuarecircle> nickserv durban register
[07:14] <bartist> dark_light : my home is in /
[07:14] <mikeymike> iter: this is disturbing....
[07:14] <mikeymike> iter: no sshd on this dapper install
[07:14] <iter> didn't get installed I guess
[07:14] <mikeymike> since when has linux not came with sshd....
[07:14] <iter> apt-get install ssh sshd
[07:14] <mikeymike> iter: yeah
[07:14] <oskude> bartist: i do new install only when new versions come out, so i dont even want my old configs in home...
[07:14] <dark_light> bartist, that's too bad
[07:14] <vanisher> mikeymike: Top security :D no ssh/sshd
[07:14] <mikeymike> lol
[07:14] <bartist> i have backed up some file in my ipod
[07:14] <mikeymike> HAHA
[07:14] <excitatory> bartist: well, back it up to a dvd, or second hard drive, or cd or something...  in the future, keep /home on a separate partition or even better and second hard drive to avoid this issue..
[07:15] <jenda> iter: Doesn't this telnet output look like it's set? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25674/
[07:15] <mikeymike> i dont think this is tinfoil hat linux....
[07:15] <mikeymike> lol
[07:15] <dark_light> bartist, now you know why is a good idea have a separate /home (another thing is: when /home is full the system continues because / is in another partition..)
[07:15] <mikeymike> i think even tinfoil hat linux comes with sshd!
[07:15] <bartist> so as i am planing to do a fresh instal
[07:15] <Web> iter, sorry one more question... any way to convert those NTFS partitions without losing the data so I could make them more "Production ready"
[07:15] <iter> jenda: can you access whatever it is on 44444 at 1.37 ?
[07:15] <bartist> i will have the opportunity to reconf my hdd
[07:16] <oskude> dark_light: you know / has 5% reserved, so it should never really get full...
[07:16] <iter> Web: I would be scared to do that
[07:16] <bartist> do you think 1GB swap, 7GB root, and 22GB home is good?
[07:16] <jenda> iter: nope.. I set that up for my other PC which is DHCP
[07:16] <iter> Web: much safer to copy to another disk that's fat32
[07:16] <Web> =)... k man, thanks for your time and help.
[07:16] <iter> then use that disk for ubuntu
[07:16] <Web> excellent
[07:16] <iter> can also use it under windows w/a fat32 fs
[07:16] <Web> thanks again
[07:16] <thermionic> you can't do a non destructive convert of NTFS partitions
[07:16] <jenda> iter: OTOH, that one even refuses telnet...
[07:16] <excitatory> bartist: how much ram do you have?
[07:16] <iter> sho
[07:17] <iter> jenda: what's on 44444 on 1.37
[07:17] <Web> so if I were to convert them first to FAT 32 b4 I install Ubunto I would be gtg?
[07:17] <iter> web yes
[07:17] <Web> ok, no more buggy you man! =) Thanks gains!
[07:18] <iter> if gtg means good to go and not 'going to gag'
[07:18] <vanisher> Bartist: When an ext2/3 filesystem is created by default 5% is reserved for root. This is allows root access the partition in case the filesystem becomes full and reduce fragmentation. You can use tune2fs to change the amount of reserved space.
[07:18] <Web> lol
[07:18] <dark_light> oskude, by default? but well, it's a option in /etc/fstab? i cant find it
[07:18] <jenda> iter: nothing, I just set up that forward to try the portprobe.
[07:18] <mjr> bartist, really, don't make a separate /home unless you have a pressing reason and you know it
[07:18] <bartist> thank you all guys for your precious info!
[07:18] <CroX> At http://tremulous.net/ they say that "it made it's way into Ubuntu" but it doesn't say where I can find it. Anyone know?
[07:18] <thermionic> does anyone here know about creating a local repository for installing Ubuntu from ?
[07:18] <vanisher> dark_light: When an ext2/3 filesystem is created by default 5% is reserved for root. This is allows root access the partition in case the filesystem becomes full and reduce fragmentation. You can use tune2fs to change the amount of reserved space.
[07:18] <sureshot> i noticed someone posted to me by name i took a nap and did not see it i am here now if someone needed to chat with me
[07:19] <dark_light> oskude, i heard about it, the root can reserve some percentage of partition for its use, but i didnt know that its the default
[07:19] <oskude> dark_light: vanisher said you can edit it with tune2fs
[07:19] <dark_light> hmm :)
[07:19] <jenda> iter: I suppose why that didn't work. I'll try to fallback to DHCP and try it out.
[07:19] <oskude> dark_light: if you used the text installer, you would see a 5% there as default ;)
[07:19] <thermionic> maybe I should take the lack of response as a NO
[07:20] <oskude> dark_light: oh, but could be that the gui installer doesnt do that...
[07:20] <bartist> another thing
[07:20] <thermionic> a basic requirement for doing multiple installs and nobody sems to know how to do it
[07:20] <dark_light> oskude, i created partitions with mkfs some times, but i didn't remembered it
[07:20] <bartist> i have to run vba code in openoffice spreadsheet for university
[07:20] <thermionic> saddening really
[07:20] <bartist> but vba only works with excel, and not oo
[07:21] <oskude> dark_light: that doesnt make partitions, it just formats them...
[07:21] <dark_light> well you got what i meant :P
[07:22] <bartist> the only reason why i wanted to format my pc is because of beryl and xgl
[07:22] <bartist> i did not liked it very much
[07:23] <bartist> plus it's alpha code, and it hurts your eyes
[07:23] <sharperguy> is it possible to stop the edgy upgrade once youve started downloading (i assume i'll have to fix sources.list)
[07:23] <sharperguy> if possible PM it to me because i have to go
[07:23] <dark_light> bartist, you can just remove it..
[07:23] <dark_light> and use the old X
[07:23] <oskude> on terminal, just press ctrl+c
[07:24] <dark_light> or, you could just remake the links for point to the old X.org ..
[07:24] <oskude> sharperguy: on terminal, just press ctrl+c
[07:25] <bartist> dark_light i removed it
[07:25] <bartist> but i feel my pc is buggy since i installed it
[07:25] <dark_light> per example?
[07:26] <vanisher> i just have 2 problems completly migrating to linux :(
[07:26] <Linuturk_code> vanisher, and they are?
[07:26] <bartist> what is remake the links for point to the old X.org?
[07:26] <vanisher> Outlook -> pda synchronization and MS Flightsimulator
[07:26] <Cornelius> is it possible to have kanotix and Ubuntu at the sametime on 1 computer
[07:26] <bartist> dark: when i updated my sys today, my screen went black
[07:26] <bartist> dark: i can not run macros in OO
[07:27] <crweb> is the xine/flac problem with amarok ever going to be fixed in 6.*?
[07:27] <Tokenbad> oskude, yes I rebooted
[07:27] <bartist> and, my OO presentations are buggy
[07:27] <mikeymike> ok so.. once you edit sshd_config how you restart it
[07:27] <we2by> how do I install xfce4 themes?
[07:27] <mikeymike> just run the daemon again?
[07:27] <mikeymike> to get the new settings?
[07:27] <vanisher> linuturk_code: any suggestion ? :D
[07:27] <Linuturk_code> vanisher, there is a pda syncer on dapper, but I've never used it
[07:28] <Cornelius> !dvb-t
[07:28] <Linuturk_code> vanisher, check www.winehq.org to see if the flight similator works with wine
[07:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvb-t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:28] <vanisher> my pda is running windows mobile, i wasn't able to sort it out yet :(