[04:05] <jack_> that will copy everything, including your partition table. you'll have sda1 that will be ~8GB and the rest will be unallocated space
[04:05] <rtdos> how can i find out which desktops i have installed and how to launch them? i have a friend who uses text based login and thinks he installed several different desktops but he is not sure which ones or how to launch them.
[04:05] <jack_> n2diy++
[04:05] <jack_> n2diy: next you'll ask yourself why you didnt' do htis sooner?
[04:05] <jack_> rtdos: what do you mean by 'desktops'?
[04:06] <Jordan_U> agreimann: Have you actually done the dd yet?
[04:06] <jack_> OS installations?
[04:06] <n2diy> jack, never occured to me, thanks.
[04:06] <jack_> n2diy: heh. chrome is sooo much better
[04:06] <kitty_> actually it won't be unallocated space it will be space that isn't even assigned in the partition table as being there, you'll have to load up fdisk /dev/hda and go into expert mode (x) and use it to fix the partition table to use the whole drive
[04:06] <agreimann> Jordan_U, parted works. Can I use it over gparted?
[04:06] <rtdos> jack_ :  gnome, kde, openbox, etc.
[04:06] <ruan> lol, firefox still has the addon advantage
[04:06] <agreimann> Yes--running dd now.
[04:07] <jack_> rtdos: ah gotcha. i think you can check the metapackages. im unsure of the command.
[04:07] <Jordan_U> agreimann: Yes. Since they both use libparted to do the actual work.
[04:07] <jack_> gparted is just the graphical frontend for parted
[04:07] <agreimann> I'm better with the shell than the GUI. :)
[04:07] <jack_> that's terrible. haha
[04:08] <Jordan_U> agreimann: Ok, highlight me (use my nick in a comment) once the dd is finished and you are actually ready to resize the partition on the larger drive.
[04:08] <kitty_> if i was agreimann i'd do a quick copy of your mbr dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/hda size=1kb count=512, then i'd go back in and fdisk /dev/hda and erase the partition table and start a new one, then i'd go and do the dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/hda1 count=sizeofdisk, but thats just me...
[04:08] <rtdos> jack_ how do i check the metapackages?
[04:08] <jack_> wouldn't it be easier to create the partition on your disk the way you want it and then copy the contents over?
[04:08] <agreimann> OK--should be at least ~30% done by now.
[04:08] <jack_> rtdos: im unsure but i htink there is a ubuntu wiki page on metapackages
[04:08] <GMH> is flash inevitably going to be extremely resource-heavy in ubuntu?
[04:08] <jack_> rtdos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages
[04:09] <GMH> if so, this just reinforces my idea that this might be a nice place for me to get work done without the distraction of youtube or tvtropes, lol
[04:09] <agreimann> kitty_, when I do that, it breaks Tiger from booting.
[04:09] <rtdos> thanks, jack)
[04:09] <GMH> place as in, my ubuntu computer
[04:09] <jack_> GMH: haha.
[04:10] <agreimann> So I'm stuck using dd as an option.
[04:10] <jack_> GMH: i guess it depends on your system.
[04:10] <GMH> well, my system has little RAM, and relatively less processor speed
[04:10] <agreimann> Oh, btw, running from the Live CD.
[04:10] <kitty_> well then agreimann i have a suggestion, just as i've had to do many times,... re-run the install/setup/configure program for your boot manager after you copy all your crap over, and it should beable to fix itself
[04:10] <GMH> so at first i had gnome and everything was craizly slow
[04:11] <GMH> and i realized that stuff was using up to 90% memory
[04:11] <agreimann> GMH, switch to fluxbox. ;)
[04:11] <GMH> so i got lubuntu and now the limiting factor is my processor
[04:11] <jack_> GMH: how did you check that?
[04:11] <GMH> agreimann: i tried; dunno how to get internet to work; people here helped me set up lubuntu
[04:11] <GMH> jack_: check what?
[04:11] <jack_> GMH: that it was taking up 90% of your memory?
[04:12] <GMH> system monitor
[04:12] <agreimann> GMH, open a virtual shell and type in "apt-get install fluxbox" (no quotes).
[04:12] <Dirtyfrench> what am i supposed to look for in the logs ?
[04:12] <GMH> agreimann: did that already,  did that last night.
[04:12] <clarkfischer_> I just installed the latest (Jaunty?) on my old tower with a nvidia GeForce video card, and I can't get resolution above 800x600, which is unusable!
[04:12] <agreimann> If the Internet doesn't work, have you tried diagnosing the problem?
[04:12] <jack_> Dirtyfrench: incoming requests
[04:12] <clarkfischer_> Is there anything I can do, any kind of drivers I can install to get higher resolution?
[04:12] <ohsix> apt-get install makemynotebookuseless
[04:13] <xangua> clarkfischer_: jaunty is no longer supported
[04:13] <jack_> Dirtyfrench: you will need to check on the smb server
[04:13] <clarkfischer_> xangua: then not jaunty
[04:13] <clarkfischer_> it's whatever the latest is, I literally just downloaded it from ubuntu.com an hour ago
[04:13] <GMH> agreimann: not sure how to diagnose it.  networks ettings or whatever it was called detects it.
[04:13] <jack_> clarkfischer_: install the nvidia drivers
[04:13] <schock> this nvidia process is killing me
[04:13] <clarkfischer_> jack_: 'additional drivers' already installed them for me.
[04:13] <overclucker> ohsix: which repo is that in?
[04:13] <clarkfischer_> It installed an nvidia settings program which only has 800x600 resolutions and below..
[04:14] <ruan> clarkfischer_: did you install "current" drivers?
[04:14] <kitty_> agreimann, http://mac.linux.be/content/yaboot
[04:14] <clarkfischer_> yeah
[04:14] <clarkfischer_> it said 'recommended'
[04:14] <lqgr00ve> i am having problems mounting my ntfs partition. i managed to screw up the boot table so i am now just trying to salvage the data on the drive
[04:14] <jim__> Anyone ever experience an issue with Ubuntu server where network connectivity will drop out randomly until the keyboard is pressed? (as if the machine were hibernating...doesn't appear to be the case though)
[04:15] <ruan> lqgr00ve: sudo fdisk -l
[04:15] <ChogyDan> clarkfischer_: is the monitor properly detected?
[04:15] <clarkfischer_> ChogyDan: Yeah, as far as I can tell.
[04:15] <agreimann> 5.2/7.3 GB copied, everyone. Thanks for your help so far. :)
[04:15] <clarkfischer_> It's actually an HDTV, and there are some cable-conversions going on, but it knows it's manufacturer/model
[04:15] <jack_> clarkfischer_: download them from nvidia's site
[04:16] <jack_> lqgr00ve: what type of problem?
[04:16] <clarkfischer_> jack_: I've done so, but it tells me I'm 'running x server' and I can't figure out how to not be running x-server
[04:16] <agreimann> NMH, can you try running ifconfig?
[04:16] <ChogyDan> jack_: aren't those incompatible with Ubuntu?
[04:16] <jack_> clarkfischer_: you need to switch to runlevel 3
[04:16] <clarkfischer_> stop gdm doesn't help
[04:16] <clarkfischer_> jack_: how might I do that?
[04:16] <jack_> ChogyDan: those what? nvidia drivers? no. i use them on my boxee machine.
[04:16] <jack_> clarkfischer_: eeeeeeeeeeeh in the most recent im unsure. i think there is a forum post about it
[04:16] <lqgr00ve> ruan: ok fdisk shows the drive - now how do i access it?
[04:16] <era878> how do i setup the database in the backend of mythbuntu?
[04:17] <ruan> lqgr00ve: get the drive name; eg. sda1 or sdb1
[04:17] <jack_> lqgr00ve: mount it.  mount /dev/sda1 /mnt (for example)
[04:17] <Roter1337> What is a good chatroom for Internet security?
[04:17] <ChogyDan> jack_: yeah...  that's what I heard
[04:17] <agreimann> 1 GB to go, everyone. :)
[04:17] <jack_> ChogyDan: i use them on my 10.04 machine. they are not incompatible.
[04:18] <ruan> lqgr00ve: the command i use to mount my ntfs drive is: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/ntfs
[04:18] <Gnea> agreimann: what happens in 1 GB? :)
[04:18] <jack_> ruan: isnt' the mount command smart enough to figure out the type?
[04:18] <cordor> is there any free ssh tunneling or vpn? ask here because i don't want those with win app download.
[04:18] <jack_> cordor: in ubuntu?
[04:18] <jim__> cordor: PuTTY will do SSH tunnelling on windows fairly easily
[04:18] <agreimann> A command I'm running--dd--finishes copying. I'm keeping a few people posted. :)
[04:18] <ruan> jack_: yeah but i got this command from a 2002 forum lol
[04:18] <GMH> is there a way for me to check my system info in ubuntu?
[04:19] <jim__> as far as VPN, I've had success in the past using mpd as the VPN server and connecting with the default Windows VPN client
[04:19] <jack_> ruan: nice heh
[04:19] <Gnea> awesome
[04:19] <agreimann> GMH, run hardinfo.
[04:19] <jack_> GMH: which system info?
[04:19] <ruan> GMH: which part of the system? cpu, gfx, hdd?
[04:19] <agreimann> For memory stats, run free, and try "cat /proc/cpuinfo" for your cpu.
[04:19] <jack_> memory stats: cat /proc/meminfo
[04:19] <jack_> ^its awesome
[04:20] <WeThePeople> how do i uninstall lubuntu
[04:20] <cordor> nono, i am asking free ssh tunneling or vpn account  or something encrypted browsing. WITHOUT winapp download.
[04:20] <jack_> ruan: is there a gfx monitoring command?
[04:20] <Starminn> WeThePeople: How did you install it?
[04:20] <GMH> was just thinking, in general, like, if there's something akin to how windows can tell me that, say, i'm running on a whatever processor with what speed and how much RAM total
[04:20] <GMH> and some other info
[04:20] <xangua> WeThePeople: format the partition
[04:20] <ruan> jack_: my nvidia X server shows me all of my info
[04:20] <jack_> cordor: on ubuntu? cant you just do ssh -gL <port>:<host>:<port> localhost?
[04:20] <agreimann> GMH: You'll need hardinfo for that.
[04:20] <ruan> note: not a server
[04:20] <Starminn> mGMH: Run in Terminal "uname -a"
[04:20] <jim__> cordor: what OS are you running?
[04:20] <jack_> ruan: where is that? how do you get ot that?
[04:20] <WeThePeople> xangua,  sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[04:21] <jim__> on Ubuntu you can just do what Jack said
[04:21] <agreimann> If you want basic, comprehensive info for individual hardware, run separate commands.
[04:21] <ruan> jack_: it was installed with my drivers to System>administration>nvidia x server
[04:21] <cordor> jack_, jim_ : looking for an account. not software.
[04:21] <jack_> ruan: ah nice.
[04:21] <overclucker> cordor: do you have a ssh server you can access?
[04:21] <agreimann> Data copied successfully, everyone.
[04:21] <cordor> overclucker: no.
[04:21] <jack_> cordor: an account?
[04:21] <Starminn> GMH: Run in Terminal "uname -a" (typo'd your name the first time) -- if you want a GUI go to System->Administration->System Monitor
[04:21] <agreimann> Restarting into OS X.
[04:21] <lqgr00ve> ruan: no dice. no ntfs signature
[04:21] <jim__> cordor, jack__ : I think he's looking for an SSH-tunnel-service provider
[04:21] <jack_> GMH: also, top and ps wills how nice output
[04:21] <jack_> lqgr00ve: this is a crashed harddisk?
[04:22] <agreimann> Depending on what I see this time, I might need the Live CD. :)
[04:22] <jim__> like how anonymizer provides a free proxy server (if that still exists)
[04:22] <jack_> if mount cant mount it, it means you have a damaged superblock. you'll need to run a fsck on it.
[04:22] <WeThePeople> Starminn, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[04:22] <lqgr00ve> jack_ it isn't crashed but i undoubtedly screwed it up during my past linux install
[04:22] <g0r33k> Hello everyone, I had a quick question please. I was thinking of setting up ssh on my home ubuntu machine so I can access it from anywhere. How secure is this connection?
[04:22] <cordor> jim_: yes. or i remember there was a linux app that do p2p vpn thing.
[04:22] <ahaziah77> hello
[04:22] <Starminn> WeThePeople: So you're not trying to uninstall Ubuntu, you're just trying to uninstall the Lubuntu desktop.
[04:22] <jrib> g0r33k: very secure...
[04:22] <jack_> g0r33k: ssh is encrypted so it shoudl be secure, but its vunerable to like.. brute force attacks
[04:23] <ahaziah77> newbie here
[04:23] <WeThePeople> Starminn, yes
[04:23] <jack_> ahaziah77: hi newbie
[04:23] <ahaziah77> needs some assistance
[04:23] <jack_> ahaziah77: sounds fun
[04:23] <jrib> ahaziah77: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[04:23] <g0r33k> jack_: in other words - dont pick an easy password. Right?
[04:23] <lqgr00ve> ruan: worst case scenerio - how would i go about fixing it?
[04:23] <jack_> g0r33k: sure.
[04:23] <jack_> g0r33k: and you can setup rules to lock people out after 3 times and stuff
[04:23] <ahaziah77> lol....ok, such a newb, dont know how
[04:23] <ruan> lqgr00ve: as he said, do a  fsck on the drive
[04:23] <g0r33k> I see. Thankyou :)
[04:23] <overclucker> cordor: have you played with yet?
[04:23] <jack_> if you can do that. you'll be fine. i have an open ssh server and i dont have any problems
[04:23] <jack_> ahaziah77: whats up?
[04:24] <jim__> anyone ever have cause to turn acpi=off in their grub conf? I'm assuming if I do that, I won't be able to reboot remotely?
[04:24] <overclucker> cordor: meant to say have you played with tor yet?
[04:24] <jrib> !ssh | g0r33k
[04:24] <ahaziah77> well for one, i came up with more questions just getting to this irc chat, like how to know where i am going and what chat or channel im on
[04:24] <jack_> jim__: yes. im not sure what type of reboot, but sometimes things issue an acpi reboot which, if the s ystem is frozen for exmaple, woudl do nothing.
[04:25] <kitty_> woohoo, swapoff is fun
[04:25] <cordor> overclucker: it was development stage, and i don't remeber the name now. i need something that secure kinda like open wifi connection.
[04:25] <jack_> kitty_: ya it is!
[04:25] <jim__> jack_: I may just have to try it. Have this bizarre issue where my machine will stop responding to network requests until I hit a key on the keyboard
[04:25] <ahaziah77> but the main reason i was seeking help was to move files, when i try to move a file its telling me that the directory is not empty
[04:25] <ahaziah77> what does that mean
[04:25] <ahaziah77> ?
[04:25] <agreimann> jack_, kitty_, in OS X. It did it. However, when opening Disk Utility, it shows exactly what I thought.
[04:25] <jack_> jim__: strangeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
[04:25] <jim__> seems to happen randomly, the only thing I can think of is that ACPI is telling it to standby for some reason
[04:25] <kitty_> still have a 8gb partition?
[04:25] <agreimann> A tiny partition where OS X is, and a glob of free space.
[04:25] <g0r33k> Also, this may be a silly question but, am i able to point my domain name at my static ip address and then use that instead of the ip to ssh to my home machine?
[04:26] <jack_> jim__: go ahead and disable it and see if it makes a difference. also, i think there is an acpid that runs. i know there is in fedora. not sure about ubuntu
[04:26] <agreimann> Actually, 7.33 GB approximately.
[04:26] <jrib> g0r33k: sure
[04:26] <jack_> g0r33k: yes.
[04:26] <kitty_> can you boot your flash drive on that computer still?
[04:26] <agreimann> And 29.81 GB wasted.
[04:26] <g0r33k> Thanks jack_ & jrib
[04:26] <jack_> g0r33k: my server is www.jack-server.com. try sshing to it.
[04:26] <agreimann> kitty_, flash drives aren't supported on this model.
[04:26] <occamsrzr> does anyone know of a multi-user playlist queueing plugin for any musicplayer/jukebox?
[04:26] <kitty_> cause if you can, then you should be able to load gparted or parted or mac-fdisk and fix it
[04:26] <overclucker> cordor: I either use Tor, ir ssh tunneling when I use public wifi. with ssh, I tunnel to my home ssh server
[04:26] <jim__> jack__: any other ideas come to mind on that issue? The hardware is old-ish but high quality (tyan motherboard) and nothing in the logs suggests hardware problems
[04:26] <Jordan_U> agreimann: Now open up GParted and resize the partition.
[04:26] <jim__> though I may replace the nic just to see if that does anything
[04:26] <jrib> ahaziah77: what exactly are you doing and how?
[04:27] <jack_> jim__: just no network activity until you hit a key? is that just while sitting on the desktop? maybe there is somekind of power-saving thing occuring
[04:27] <agreimann> Jordan_U: I'm rebooting into Linux now.
[04:27] <agreimann> From a Live CD, that is.
[04:27] <Starminn> WeThePeople: Try just doing this but replacing it for Lubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=95881
[04:27] <ahaziah77> just downloading some skins for vlc, been a life long windows user, installed ubuntu this past week so whole new world for me, but i was trying to get experience with the terminal..........
[04:27] <jim__> jack_: it's actually a fresh install of server edition - no gui installed. I thought it was freezing up because my SSH session (even from the local network) would freeze and then eventually disconnect
[04:27] <NooBoontoo> Ok, so I was following some instructions about building some drivers for a Tablet with ./configure --with-xorg-module-dir=/usr/lib/xorg/modules
[04:27] <NooBoontoo> make && sudo make install Wich worked without any errors, but now, when i try to locate the driver like this, it gives me this output osmodivs@Djiin:~/xorg-input-wizardpen-0.8.0$ ls /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/wizardpen_drv.*
[04:27] <NooBoontoo> ls: cannot access /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/wizardpen_drv.*: No such file or directory
[04:27] <NooBoontoo> . So did I did something wrong?
[04:27] <FloodBot1> NooBoontoo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:28] <jack_> jim__: if you ping it from another client does it stop responding to icmp?
[04:28] <g0r33k> Thanks jack_, I see what you mean. Btw, what is the encryption key message i got?
[04:28] <jim__> but I found that if I run downstairs and hit a key fast enough, the SSH connection comes back
[04:28] <kitty_> interestingly enough, if you make a boot cd agreimann, that has your linux kernel on it and the options to point it to your flash drive as root (use uuid if you have to) then it will work just fine, you'll have to boot the cdrom to mount your flash as root device
[04:28] <jrib> ahaziah77: tell us what you are executing and show us the full output (use http://paste.ubuntu.com)
[04:28] <GMH> agreimann: thanks, hardinfo is what i wanted
[04:28] <jim__> jack_: yep, stops responding to pings as well
[04:28] <talaskina> ok. this is for anyone who has much experience with raid5 arrays. i have 3 newish disks (2 new, 1 used) that i am using for a raid5 array, i built the array, but it says degraded, recovering. is that normal or should i be concerned?
[04:28] <cordor> overclucker: i don't have the ssh server part. i need either a free shell account which allow ssh tunneling, or free vpn account. or some p2p app that do the job.
[04:28] <Starminn> WeThePeople: The apps you'll have to uninstall by yourself, but the desktop wshould be taken care of by just the opposite of installing it -- sudo apt-get remove lubuntu-desktop (theoretically)
[04:28] <jack_> g0r33k: its asking if you want to accept it as a known ssh server. that way if somebody tries to fake you out it'll notify you that hte key is different
[04:28] <agreimann> No problem, GMH. :)
[04:28] <kitty_> then you shouldn't have any problem with resizing partitions cause you shouldn't have any of them mounted on the destination drive.
[04:28] <kitty_> anyways, i'm sleepy
[04:28] <WeThePeople> Starminn, ok i will try
[04:28] <dbb> hello- I have ubuntu 10.10, and an application I run just posted a nice notification of an upgrade. I could swear it had a link on it.. you know, pops up in the lower right hand corner.. where do I find that? it only lasted a moment
[04:28] <WeThePeople> thx
[04:29] <ahaziah77> i have the skins in downloads dir, but need to move them to .local/share/vlc/skins2
[04:29] <jack_> dbb: which application?
[04:29] <ruan> dbb: is it a driver upgrade?
[04:29] <jrib> ahaziah77: tell us what you are executing and show us the full output (use http://paste.ubuntu.com)
[04:29] <ruan> dbb: oh nvm
[04:29] <jrib> ahaziah77: I am asking you to literally copy and paste what is in your terminal
[04:29] <dbb> jack ruan its komodo
[04:29] <ahaziah77> k
[04:29] <jrib> !who | ahaziah77
[04:29] <ruan> dbb: open up komodo and upgrade manually?
[04:29] <g0r33k> jack_: Could you please explain what you mean by fake me out?
[04:30] <dbb> ruan you dont know
[04:30] <jack_> ahaziah77: you cannot move directories without the recursive flag
[04:30] <lqgr00ve> ruan: it appears that i've managed to format the drive - is there any chance of data recovery still?
[04:30] <jack_> ahaziah77: mv -R /folder /new/folder
[04:30] <agreimann> Jordan_U, getting to the desktop.
[04:30] <lqgr00ve> ruan: fdisk is showing linux partition types
[04:30] <myradlife> bastidrazor, if it's set in the daemon mode, shouldn't it run in the background and update my IP each time? Instead I have to manually execute the script ipUpdate.pl each time to update to dnsexit.
[04:30] <ahaziah77> aaron@aaron-laptop:~$ mv /home/aaron/Downloads/Backgrounds /home/aaron/Pictures
[04:30] <ahaziah77> mv: cannot move `/home/aaron/Downloads/Backgrounds' to `/home/aaron/Pictures/Backgrounds': Directory not empty
[04:30] <agreimann> Apologize about the delay.
[04:30] <jack_> ahaziah77: you need to use the recurive flag
[04:30] <jack_> -R
[04:30] <jack_> i think
[04:30] <myradlife> bastidrazor, I'm sorry, did you post a reply to that msg?
[04:30] <agreimann> OK.
[04:30] <cordor> f force
[04:30] <ruan> lqgr00ve: im not sure
[04:30] <jack_> ahaziah77:  mv -R /home/aaron/Downloads/Backgrounds /home/aaron/Pictures
 mv: cannot move `/home/aaron/Downloads/Backgrounds' to `/home/aaron/Pictures/Background
[04:30] <agreimann> Upon opening gparted, I get a weird result...
[04:30] <jack_> whoops
[04:30] <jack_> double line. bad
[04:31] <FloodBot1> jack_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:31] <Lint> ahaziah77, you cannot overwrite folders
[04:31] <dbb> ok - I quick google says the notification is gone after it appears.. it was so fast.. bummer
[04:31] <agreimann> It actually will either quit, or say that the disk is "unallocated".
[04:31] <Lint> actually you can in MacOSX, which gives ALOT lulz
[04:31] <jack_> agreimann: the entire disk?
[04:31] <ahaziah77> jack_, sorry, shoulda read into that more, forgot i had a backgrounds already in there
[04:31] <lqgr00ve> does anyone know any data recovery utilities that might be handy?
[04:31] <agreimann> jack_: Yep.
[04:32] <Lint> agreimann, are you sure it contain(ed) partitions?
[04:32] <Jordan_U> agreimann: What is the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[04:32] <jack_> lqgr00ve: if its ntfs there are probalby a few for windows.
[04:32] <ahaziah77> jack_, i see now
[04:32] <jrib> ahaziah77: first, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com instead of pasting multiple lines in the channel in the future.  Secondly, you already have a non-empty Backgrounds folder in /home/aaron/Pictures.  You should instead copy the files inside /home/aaron/Downloads/Backgrounds (by using: /home/aaron/Downloads/Backgrounds/*) to /home/aaron/Pictures/Backgrounds
[04:32] <agreimann> But... oddly enough, parted lists out 10 partitions.
[04:32] <jack_> ahaziah77: yes. put the -R flag in there. it will recursively copy
[04:32] <agreimann> Jordan_U, I was ahead of you on that. :)
[04:32] <lqgr00ve> jack_ ok thank you.
[04:32] <lqgr00ve> ruan: thank you.
[04:32] <jrib> jack_, ahaziah77: mv does not have -R switch
[04:33] <jack_> lqgr00ve: what h
[04:33] <jack_> jrib: really? hmmm
[04:33] <overclucker> ahaziah77: how about: mv /home/aaron/Downloads/Backgrounds/* /home/aaron/Pictures/Backgrounds
[04:33] <agreimann> Thanks so far for keeping with the "disk partitions" thing. It's helping a lot. :)
[04:33] <agreimann> Ideas, anyone?
[04:33] <overclucker> jack_: cp and rm, but not mv
[04:33] <ahaziah77> ok, so what is that http://paste deal
[04:34] <agreimann> I'll try using parted to make a new partition. Again, strange why gparted doesn't like this comp...
[04:34] <jack_> wow. how strange. plus i just checked on my machine and i was able to move a non-empty directory
[04:34] <jrib> ahaziah77: http://paste.ubuntu.com , you use it to paste lines you want to show us (give us the url when you are done).  That way you don't flood the channel
[04:34] <overclucker> ahaziah77: instead of dumnping here, you can dump somewhere else and provide us a link
[04:34] <ruan> !paste
[04:34] <ahaziah77> oh, ok
[04:34] <ahaziah77> got ya
[04:35] <agreimann> jack_, parted did it!
[04:35] <ahaziah77> jack_, cool, ok, i got that down
[04:35] <jack_> hooray!
[04:35] <agreimann> I have a ext2 partition between 8 GB and 40 GB.
[04:35] <jrib> jack_: do this: mkdir -p a/b b; touch a/b/c b/d; mv b a
[04:36] <nikhil_> is ubuntu and kubuntu power management the same?
[04:36] <agreimann> Jordan_U, can I merge the two partitions as one? If I format as hfs+, that is?
[04:37] <jack_> jrib: nice. i wonder why that works that way.
[04:37] <Arney> Ubuntu is killing about 300mhz out of my cpu
[04:37] <manca_> can I ask sth.?
[04:37] <madsailor> I'd like to mount some cifs network shares in fstab, but they are on a WPA2 wireless network, so the system hangs on boot when trying to mount them since it doesn't have a network connection yet.  How can I fix this?
[04:37] <ruan> !ask
[04:37] <agreimann> Arney, check your power management settings.
[04:37] <ruan> oops
[04:37] <bazhang> manca_, related to ubuntu, sure
[04:38] <Arney> I did "scaling_available_frequencies" it says 1300000... when my processor is 1666000
[04:38] <agreimann> Yes.
[04:38] <Arney> the max one that is.
[04:38] <Arney> How do I do that?
[04:38] <agreimann> The G4 processor is *much* weirder, trust me.
[04:38] <agreimann> It's not exactly that Ubuntu is eating it up.
[04:38] <agreimann> It's that your cpu is scaled down to save power.
[04:39] <manca_> i have msi wind u90, ubuntu netbook remix 10.04 ... and my wirwlwss driver is not working properly ...
[04:39] <agreimann> Try plugging your PC in, shutting down, then rebooting.
[04:39] <mycosys> :O g4 is art compared to x86
[04:39] <ahaziah77> jack_, OK, so can you tell me what is wrong with this
[04:39] <manca_> what can i do?
[04:39] <ahaziah77> http://paste.ubuntu.com/569455/
[04:39] <agreimann> Your full speed should come back.
[04:39] <jack_> madsailor: try adding _netdev to the options.
[04:39] <manca_> wireless*
[04:39] <jack_> ahaziah77: you need to mv the files within the directory. or you could do a recursive copy and then just remove the folder when its done. :P
[04:39] <bazhang> manca_, what chipset
[04:39] <manca_> Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8187SE Wireless LAN Controller ... that?
[04:40] <mycosys> ocrud
[04:40] <Jordan_U> agreimann: Why are you trying to "merge" filesystems? Why not just resize the partition/filesystem?
[04:40] <bazhang> manca_, does it show in ifconfig
[04:40] <agreimann> Jordan_U: Can't. I'm in OS X now to see what Disk Utility will do.
[04:40] <Arney> the problem is that its saying that the maximum speed is 300mghz lower then the real maximum
[04:40] <ahaziah77> jack_, oops, sorry gave u the wrong link, hang on
[04:41] <madsailor> jack_, thanks.
[04:41] <jrib> jack_: you should really think of mv as renaming
[04:41] <Jordan_U> agreimann: You never pastebin'd the output of "sudo parted -l".
[04:41] <jack_> jrib: i do, but im also lazy
[04:42] <ahaziah77> jack_, k, try this one, http://paste.ubuntu.com/569458/
[04:42] <Interdic1or> hey wats the default program to scan documents in ubuntu
[04:42] <bazhang> Interdic1or, simplescan?
[04:42] <ruan> Interdic1or, simplescan
[04:42] <manca_> wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:21:85:7a:35:39
[04:42] <manca_>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[04:42] <manca_>           inet6 addr: fe80::221:85ff:fe7a:3539/64 Scope:Link
[04:42] <manca_>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[04:42] <FloodBot1> manca_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:42] <manca_>           RX packets:9175 errors:30 dropped:13113 overruns:0 frame:0
[04:42] <manca_>           TX packets:10781 errors:511 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[04:42] <ruan> !paste
[04:42] <Interdic1or> alright thanks ruan
[04:43] <overclucker> Arney: can you manually change it with cpufreq-selector -f 1666000 ?
[04:43] <Arney> My pc is plugged in, shut and restarted... its still like that
[04:44] <jack_> ahaziah77: it says the file does not exist
[04:44] <Arney> overclucker: let me try
[04:44] <doug9> upgrade problem 9.10 to 10.04 video
[04:44] <ChogyDan1> Arney: you can add the frequency monitor to your panel
[04:45] <ruan> its better to do a clean install than to upgrade
[04:45] <bazhang> ruan, not so
[04:45] <ahaziah77> jack_,  ok, so what about this, this means that they are there doesnt it?
[04:45] <ahaziah77> jack_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/569459/
[04:45] <Arney> ChogyDan1: Whats the diff between that and the system monitor?
[04:46] <xujianjun> 怎么聊天啊
[04:46] <bazhang> !cn | xujianjun
[04:46] <ChogyDan1> Arney: well, sys monitor is for work load, and you want the frequency, right?
[04:46] <a123456789> well
[04:46] <ChogyDan1> Arney: or maybe frequnecy is in monitor?
[04:46] <jack_> ahaziah77: /.local/share/vlc/skins2 is not hte same as ~/.local/share/vlc/skins2
[04:46] <Arney> ChogyDan1: it is, in the first tab
[04:46] <agreimann> OK--trying Linux out.
[04:47] <NooBoontoo> Just a question: Is it safe to write something in the /lib/udev/rule_generator.functions file? they say I need to add a  file  /69-xserver-xorg-input-aiptek.rules
[04:47] <ChogyDan1> Arney: not for me
[04:47] <ahaziah77> jack_, oh cool, missed the ~, lemme try that
[04:47] <Arney> i have 10.10
[04:47] <agreimann> OS X obviously can't get things right.
[04:47] <a123456789> system need vga drivers .but i donot get ,how to get,who can tell me ?
[04:47] <NooBoontoo> AND: Download xorg.conf to your home folder and copy the file to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d, but i am not sure about messing with the Xorg files
[04:47] <agreimann> a123456789: Try using jockey-gtk.
[04:48] <doug9> upgrade problem lost video sigNal 9.10 to 10.04
[04:48] <a123456789> ok ,i try ,thank
[04:48] <myradlife> How do I execute the following command, "/etc/init.d/ipUpdate start "  , in a cron job? (what is a line if I want to execute it every hour?)
[04:49] <jon8> myradlife
[04:49] <jon8> er
[04:49] <raido> myradlife: you dont want to do that from init.d, stuff in init.d is run at startup already
[04:49] <jon8> myradlife: @hourly /etc/init.d/ipUpdate start
[04:49] <jon8> would run it every hour
[04:49] <jon8> but read what raido said
[04:50] <ohsix> most providers would not like people contacting them on the hour ...  You likely just need to read the instruction on ipUpdate and configure it to do what you want, i.e. update hourly
[04:52] <Arney> prolly a  small system monitor bug.
[04:52] <jon8> myradlife, here is a nice web based gui page i (just) found, http://www.corntab.com/pages/crontab-gui that seems like it will help you create proper crontab entries
[04:52] <Arney> lol, again, now with empathy. 200%
[04:52] <ChogyDan1> Arney: it means it was maxing out both cores on a dual core
[04:52] <Arney> interesting way to measure percentages.
[04:52] <myradlife> raido, jon8 , i'll try those, thanks
[04:52] <xeer> I have a strange issue, an executable is not accepting a chmod .. http://pastebin.com/LQGpQf3e
[04:52] <jon8> myradlife you're welcome.
[04:53] <ruan> that'd be quite funny on a supercomputer.... <program> is using 10000000% of the cpu
[04:53] <doug9> upgrade problem lost video 9.04 to 10.04
[04:53] <jon8> Arney depending on what software is being used, it could be glitched and not correctly seeing multiple core'd cpus, thus more than 100%
[04:53] <ChogyDan1> doug9: can you give more details?
[04:53] <doug9> 9.10
[04:53] <manca_> i have msi wind u90, ubuntu netbook remix 10.04 ... and my wireless driver is not working properly ... chipset ralink
[04:54] <jon8> xeer hmm.. pastebin.com is slow to load. ill check out your paste when it comes up.
[04:54] <Jordan_U> agreimann: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"/
[04:54] <era878> does anybody have experience setting up mythtv with dish network
[04:54] <don> hello
[04:54] <jon8> xeer can you paste your problem onto something like pastee.org please
[04:54] <agreimann> Jordan_U: I fixed it, actually. :)
[04:54] <agreimann> In Linux.
[04:54] <agreimann> Or at least am going to.
[04:54] <jon8> don, hello fellow michigander :)
[04:55] <agreimann> Thanks, jack_ and Jordan_U. :)
[04:55] <agreimann> Logging out.
[04:55] <jack_> :D
[04:55] <jon8> Pastebin.com is under heavy load right now, sorry...
[04:55] <jon8> But we are working on it!
[04:55] <jon8> lol
[04:55] <Jordan_U> agreimann: You're welcome.
[04:55] <Guest47502> i need some help
[04:55] <jon8> Guest47502, whats the problem
[04:55] <doug9> HP s7727c, AMD 64, Nvidia worked with 9.10 upgraded to 10.04.  MoNitor reports No sigNal
[04:55] <jon8> xeer can you use something other than pastebin.com to share please. www.pastee.org is available.
[04:55] <Starminn> jon8: Have people try http://pastie.org then for now?
[04:56] <franco> hi
[04:56] <Ritlee> what's the chances of two drives, quite probably from the same batch, failing according to the logs... at the same exact time? yes i know not directly ubuntu related
[04:56] <jon8> Starminn alternatives have already been recommended.
[04:56] <franco> i'm from santiago of chilr
[04:56] <franco> chile
[04:57] <jon8> Ritlee chances could be great if there the drives were manufactures closely together (time wise) and there was a production problem that went unnoticed. contact the manufacture.
[04:57] <meltphace> Ritlee: much higher than two drives from different batches failing at the same time
[04:57] <raido> Ritlee: I bet it happens to Google hourly.
[04:57] <Skyline0964256> hey
[04:57] <mycosys> !ask
[04:57] <jon8> raido i bet it doesnt. google most likely buys very high end enterprise drives
[04:57] <jon8> Skyline0964256 hi
[04:57] <Skyline0964256> i need some help
[04:58] <jon8> Skyline0964256
[04:58] <meltphace> :
[04:58] <jon8> just ask your question already
[04:58] <jon8> !ask
[04:58] <meltphace> :|
[04:58] <Skyline0964256> lo
[04:58] <doug9> I did the process of 9.10 theN upgradiNg to 10.04 two eNtire cycles with the same results
[04:58] <Ritlee> jon8, like within 2 minutes?
[04:58] <Skyline0964256> i installed VLC and some codecs and its still not playing the dvd
[04:58] <raido> jon8: they dont, surprisingly, they use the same stuff we do
[04:58] <mycosys> !ask >Skyline0964256
[04:58] <jon8> Ritlee seems extremely unlikely
[04:58] <ruan> lol
[04:58] <meltphace> Ritlee: it's not impossible :|
[04:58] <raido> jon8: theres alot online about how many drives they fail every day
[04:58] <jon8> raido you use enterprise level SAS 15k rpm drives at home?
[04:59] <mycosys> Skyline0964256 add the medibuntu repositories
[04:59] <mycosys> !medibuntu
[04:59] <Skyline0964256> how?
[04:59] <mycosys> !medibuntu > Skyline0964256
[04:59] <raido> jon8: they use sata/pata
[04:59] <jon8> raido http://storagemojo.com/2007/02/19/googles-disk-failure-experience/
[05:00] <jack_> how long do you think it'd take to compile gnome from source?
[05:00] <jon8> raido i'm just talking out of my ass. I dont know anything about what google uses or their harddrive failure rate.
[05:00] <ahaziah77> jack_,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/569467/
[05:01] <raido> jon8: I see that
[05:01] <jon8> raido http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/18/massive-google-hard-drive-survey-turns-up-very-interesting-thing/
[05:01] <jon8> raido sorry. i didnt mean to come off sounding like i knew what i was talking about, my apologizes.
[05:01] <jack_> ahaziah77: mv /home/aaron/Downloads/redcoast/vlt ~/.local/share/vlc/skins2 <this command is worng. the file is redcoast.vlt not redcoast/vlt
[05:02] <jack_> ahaziah77: if you press [tab] it will autocomplete filenames for you
[05:02] <ahaziah77> sorry, ok, looked at the past, i typed it wring there but i have tried .vlt and it does the same
[05:02] <ahaziah77> wrong*
[05:02] <jack_> ahaziah77: if it exists, it souldn't. you probably have another typo
[05:02] <ahaziah77> k
[05:03] <ahaziah77> ill make sure it is all right
[05:03] <saby> Hi, i cannot put my computer to sleep or suspend
[05:03] <threenutz> Does anyone know how to disable your IP address from showing up in your username?
[05:03] <Ritlee> jon8, thanks for that link quite interesting read
[05:03] <saby> i dont get the options and when i close the lid of my laptop it says failed to suspend
[05:03] <jon8> Ritlee no problem
[05:03] <doug9> upgrade issue 9.10 to 10.04 No video signal
[05:03] <juk> ahaziah77: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fileman.html
[05:03] <jon8> threenutz if you're talking about your ip showing up when you come onto irc you would have to get something called an IRC bouncer to hide your ip on IRC.
[05:04] <jstar5566> I'm a moderately competent ubuntu user. I use emacs, orgmode, xmonad & screen every day. I'm wondering if there's anything else that powerusers use that could help my productivity. Any ideas?
[05:04] <ahaziah77> jack_, thanks
[05:04] <jack_> ahaziah77: :D
[05:04] <mIKEjONES> I just git clone'd ubuntu's maverick kerne.ubuntu.com repository, where is the kernel config that ubuntu uses?
[05:05] <madsailor> jack_, adding _netdev to the options in fstab didn't work. I really just want to symlink to the shares, but this isn't possible without mounting locally.  Any other ideas?
[05:05] <threenutz> jon8 thanks. I saw something about it but it warned of a possible buffer overflow. Im using xChat and thought there might be a configuration setting I was missing.
[05:05] <jack_> madsailor: take it out of your fstab and make a script that'll do it for you
[05:05] <jack_> threenutz: no.
[05:05] <caretrain> ls
[05:05] <mycosys>  jstar5566 screen, winswitch are godsends
[05:05] <Jordan_U> threenutz: Join #freenode and ask about getting a "cloak".
[05:06] <doug9> upgrade problem No video sigNal after upgrade 9.10 to 10.04
[05:06] <jack_> no video signal? like... on your monitor?
[05:06] <nertil> like no driver
[05:06] <doug9> yes
[05:06] <nertil> :))
[05:06] <jack_> doug9: are you using an nvidia card?
[05:06] <jon8> threenutz yes, if you're spending a lot of time on this IRC Network, you can join #frenode and ask for a VHost to mask your IP address while being connected to this network.
[05:06] <threenutz> Jordan_U thanks, i will do that.
[05:06] <doug9> yes
[05:07] <jack_> doug9: try disabling the nouveau driver in the kernel options
[05:07] <jack_> or uninstalling it
[05:07] <jon8> threenutz they will make it look like this: @unaffiliated/jon8 .. as you can see if you do /whois jon8
[05:07] <Jordan_U> threenutz: You're welcome.
[05:07] <jon8> Jordan_U good call on that, i forgot i've done that some months ago.
[05:07] <threenutz> Thanks guys. Very much appreciated.
[05:07] <jstar5566> mycosys: amazing, winswitch looks wicked. I know there's more out there that I don't know about ... keep em coming!
[05:07] <jon8> threenutz Oh, and also, if you want them to mask your ip/hostname while being on this network
[05:07] <jon8> threenutz you'll need to register your nickname with nickserv
[05:08] <saby> Hello, I do not get the option to suspend or sleep or hibernate, when i close the lid of my laptop i get Suspend Failed message
[05:08] <doug9> I'm s.o.l. theN cause I oNly kNow GUI
[05:08] <madsailor> jack_, mounting has to be done as sudo...how can I safely setup a script to run with sudo priveledges, to be run by users without sudo
[05:09] <jon8> doug9, is there a reason why you capitalize every N? :)
[05:09] <ruan> lol
[05:09] <jack_> madsailor: you could maybe allow moun tto be used by non-root users.
[05:09] <jack_> madsailor: or maybe there is a timeout option you can set in fstab. im unsure though
[05:09] <threenutz> jon8: Kk, again, very much appreciated. I looked online for a while last night. You saved me a lot of hassle.
[05:09] <doug9> yes, xchat-gNome discoNNects me with a lower case N
[05:10] <jack_> what?
[05:10] <jack_> hahah
[05:10] <overclucker> doug9: nnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, haha
[05:10] <silverlightning> any wireless / conntions experts ?
[05:10] <doug9> boo
[05:11] <jack_> doug9: its not hard to learn the cmdline. YOu sould try it :)
[05:11] <silverlightning> I have the weirdest problem with network in lubuntu
[05:11] <jack_> but hte kernel options are set in grub.
[05:11] <mycosys>  jstar5566 readline may be the most useful scripting tool in existance after awk lol
[05:11] <jack_> silverlightning: do tell
[05:11] <Starminn> doug9: There are various command line IRCs although I'm using Pidgin right now without problems, so you could give that a try.
[05:11] <ruan> im on chatzilla
[05:11] <jstar5566> mycosys: :) do you know of any places where people share what tools they use on a regular basis?
[05:11] <ruan> firefox addon
[05:12] <mycosys> not off the top of my head  jstar5566
[05:12] <madsailor> jack_, Ok. do you know how I would go about setting mount as a non-root command
[05:12] <mycosys> i know a few of us do on efnet # desktops, but its purpose is hardware support
[05:12] <overclucker> Starminn: doug9 I find pidgin to be a little weird when using irc
[05:13] <doug9> OK.  I'll dowNload a differeNt chat clieNt aNd be back iN a bit
[05:13] <saby> Hello, I do not get the option to suspend or sleep or hibernate, when i close the lid of my laptop i get Suspend Failed message
[05:13] <silverlightning> I  have installed lubuntu on an old laptop to see how I like it. It does detect network card, correct network, and let's me fill in password, but still resists making connection. It is sort of connected, but something odd, perhaps encryption or something else
[05:13] <silverlightning> does that make any sense jack?
[05:14] <_marx_> wow, 1408
[05:14] <ruan> most of them are afk
[05:14] <Guest10713> hi
[05:16] <sacarlson> silverlightning: I have seen a few people have trouble with wifi encryption and one solution is to use the wicd wifi gui setup to NOT use the wext wpa supplicant driver that is setup in wicd preferences
[05:17] <silverlightning> what is DHCP?
[05:17] <mycosys> dynamic host control protocol
[05:17] <jack_> madsailor: i htink you can just change the permissions ont he binary
[05:17] <ruan> !dhcp
[05:17] <silverlightning> I se
[05:17] <jack_> silverlightning: its the service that gives you an IP when you connect to the network
[05:17] <ruan> ubottu knows all
[05:18] <jack_> orly?
[05:18] <jack_> !whatisthebestlinuxdistro?
[05:18] <mycosys> !42
[05:18] <ruan> lol
[05:18] <jack_> !101010
[05:18] <mycosys> !question
[05:18] <mycosys> thats the question??????
[05:18] <bazhang>  /msg ubottu jack_ ruan
[05:18] <silverlightning> thanks ruan
[05:18] <_marx_> !cowsay
[05:18] <jack_> _marx_++
[05:19] <silverlightning> ubottu is really telling me off here
[05:19] <_marx_> cowsay is in the repos
[05:19] <silverlightning> lol
[05:19] <jack_> cowsay should be installed by default imho
[05:19] <silverlightning> hmm
[05:19] <glitchd> im trying to create a shortcut to open a script program, but no matter what i try i jus get errors??someone help please
[05:19] <KSHawkEye> Hello, what is the difference between static and shared builds? Why would someone want to use --disable-shared why would that be better?
[05:19] <jack_> and all my command should be said by tux
[05:20] <jack_> glitchd: are you specifing the full paths? what errors are you getting?
[05:20] <_marx_> glitchd: see man ln
[05:23] <Macstheyjustsuck> My PSP used to work properly on Maverick, but then I restarted and now it shows up in Maverick, but doesn't let me go into it or see what's on it or anything
[05:24] <jack_> it always makes me nervous when people get operator status
[05:24] <ruan> i dont know about PSPs, but do they have to be mounted?
[05:24] <ruan> nevermind
[05:25] <Macstheyjustsuck> o.O
[05:25] <jack_> nice name heh
[05:25] <ruan> plug it in elsewhere?
[05:25] <thelinuxitjustdo> esn'tsuck
[05:26] <bazhang> !ot > jack_
[05:26] <jack_> ugh bazhang gimmie a break D: im in here to help
[05:26] <ohsix> that's all he does
[05:26] <bazhang> jack_, then stop the unnecessary chit chat
[05:26] <mycosys> trying to drive off the community bazhang?
[05:27] <malv> whats x11 copy command?
[05:27] <ruan> malv: i dont completely understand the question
[05:27] <malv> copy and paste in X11
[05:28] <malv> shift-insert pastes, but what copies?
[05:28] <_marx_> yeah, there is no x11 copy command
[05:28] <mycosys> depends on ur windowing environment, not x11
[05:28] <_marx_> oh, old school unix right click center click
[05:28] <malv> chrome wont let me paste into it from xterm
[05:28] <malv> pfft
[05:28] <mycosys> but normally ^v ^c and shift del and shift ins
[05:28] <Macstheyjustsuck> My PSP used to work properly on Maverick, but then I restarted and now it shows up in Maverick, but doesn't let me go into it or see what's on it or anything, how do I fix this?
[05:29] <mycosys> try edit>copy in xterm
[05:29] <ruan> plug the psp in elsewhere?
[05:29] <jack_> i center click
[05:30] <ohsix> malv: xterm doesn't use the "CLIPBOARD" clipboard, it uses selection, desktop stuff generally uses the clipboard
[05:31] <ruan> !xterm > ruan
[05:31] <doug9_> upgrade problem HP s7727c,
[05:32] <doug9_> AMD 64, Nidia Ubuntu 9.10 OK, 10.04 has no video signal
[05:32] <Macstheyjustsuck> ruan: Didn't help
[05:32] <doug9_> oops, Nvidia
[05:33]  * _marx_ has had sweet success cloning today so please excuse his euphoria
[05:33] <doug9_> congratulations _marx
[05:33] <jack_> doug9: the problem is that the new bundled nvidia drivers dont work with your card.
[05:33] <jack_> doug9: you will need to edit your kernel line to blacklist the module from loading
[05:34] <jack_> and then you can install the 3rd party nvidia drivers. then you'll be fine
[05:34] <jack_> if you have ssh loaded, you maybe able to do it from another machine
[05:34] <doug9_> Jeeze,  I'm a dumbo for the command line
[05:34] <jack_> doug9: this can be done in grub. which is the bootloader
[05:35] <doug9_> If I reload 9.10 then could I do anything to get 10.04 up and working?
[05:35] <jack_> doug9: perhaps. i think the ugprade process uses the same kernel parameters you've set
[05:35] <schock> trying to get nVidia Corporation GT216 [GeForce GT 330m] (rev ff) working under 10.10. about to give up :(
[05:35] <saby> Hello, I do not get the option to suspend or sleep or hibernate, when i close the lid of my laptop i get Suspend Failed message
[05:35] <jack_> doug9: i checked the forums and it looks like you can blacklist it in modrpobe. if you can edit the files remotely or via a livecd you should be able to do it
[05:36] <schock> THis is on a sony vaio Z11
[05:36] <junt> ?
[05:36] <junt> some one in here
[05:36] <jack_> doug9: http://wwww.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10324779&postcount=8
[05:36] <ruan>  (sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/ntfs) how would i set fstab to do this at startup?
[05:36] <junt> ?
[05:36] <jack_> hi junt
[05:37] <jack_> ruan: are you asking that?
[05:37] <junt> sure yes
[05:37] <raido> doug9_: cant you get to a login by doing ctl+lt+F2
[05:37] <doug9_> When I put in a live CD with 10.04 on it the machine shows screen... I can see.  But after rebooting with 10.04 on the hard drive I don't have a video signal
[05:37] <junt> hi jack
[05:37] <ruan> im asking how i could set fstab to do that at startup
[05:37] <jack_> /dev/sda1    /mnt/ntfs    ntfs    defaults    0 0 <ruan
[05:37] <junt> are you chinese?
[05:37] <ruan> thanks jack_
[05:37] <jack_> np
[05:38] <junt> o~~~
[05:38] <jack_> junt: no. i am british :O
[05:38] <junt> o~~i am from china
[05:38] <jack_> whats the chinese ubottu thing?
[05:38] <jack_> !cs
[05:38] <jack_> nope
[05:38] <Secret128> whats
[05:39] <sacarlson> doug9_:  jack_: you might also get control to make the changes of blacklist or 3rd party nvidia drivers by hiting keys <ctl><alt> + f2  to get to console if the system didn't crash completely
[05:39] <ruan> !cn
[05:39] <Secret128> grub rescue
[05:39] <junt> any chinese here?
[05:39] <junt> 有中国人没？
[05:39] <jack_> ruan++
[05:39] <jack_> !cn junt
[05:39] <jack_> !cn
[05:39] <KSHawkEye> Hello, when cross compiling with GCC I had to --disable-shared to get a package to compile, what is the difference between static and shared? why might that have been causing it to fail?
[05:40] <the_drow> !enter | the_drow
[05:40] <MelGibson> i would like to be able to run pdflatex and bibtex remotely from my windows machine. for a report i'm writing (i hate latex on windows) is there a service that allows something like this via SSH?
[05:40] <jack_> MelGibson: are these GUI applications?
[05:40] <MelGibson> command line
[05:40] <jack_> so you want to run windows command line applications from linux?
[05:40] <MelGibson> pdflatex myfile.tex bibtex myfile.bib
[05:41] <MelGibson> no, the other way
[05:41] <meltphace> you're looking for an ssh client for windows?
[05:41] <doug9_> sacarlson: I'm pretty sure the system has not crashed. the hd light continues to flicker as it usually does in the opening stages of booting
[05:41] <jack_> MelGibson: can you not use ssh?
[05:41] <NinjaJeff> I was surprised to ssh in and find my byobu session still going. That normal?
[05:41] <_marx_> lol
[05:41] <jack_> doug9: i have the same issue on my fedora box. its the new drivers. they dont work correclty with newer cards.
[05:41] <jack_> how do you think i new you had nvidia? :P
[05:41] <MelGibson> meltphace, no i know of SSH clients. i was wondering if there is a service that lets me log onto someone else's machien just to run a few commands every hour or so
[05:42] <meltphace> MelGibson: .. an ssh client
[05:42] <meltphace> ;P
[05:42] <MelGibson> jack_, yeah but i don't have a linux machine to SSH into
[05:42] <ruan> my hd light doesnt even flicker on ubuntu
[05:42] <jack_> MelGibson: ssh
[05:42] <Jordan_U> NinjaJeff: That's the entire point of screen (byobu is just a set of profiles an scripts for screen).
[05:42] <doug9_> so maybe i should just run 9.10 and wait?
[05:42] <meltphace> ohhh
[05:42] <jack_> MelGibson: wat. so you want to run commands from a windows machine on nothing?
[05:42] <meltphace> he wants a shell account i think
[05:42] <meltphace> there are still a few sites around which offer free shell accounts
[05:42] <meltphace> but why not just setup latex in cygwin or native latex and run it from msys or something
[05:42] <MelGibson> meltphace, yeah i think something like that would work. but i need those commands specifically. i wouldn't have su to install pdflatex
[05:43] <meltphace> latex on windows is very similar to latex on linux ;P
[05:43] <MelGibson> meltphace becuase that is a pain in the arse and never works for me. it's one of the most poorly user friendly experiences i've had
[05:43] <NinjaJeff> Jordan_U: Interesting. Does it maintain my login, then?
[05:44] <NinjaJeff> If I detach from my current session, how can I get back to it?
[05:44] <meltphace> NinjaJeff: screen -r
[05:44] <Jordan_U> NinjaJeff: Yes. "logging in" is not as statefull as you probably think.
[05:44] <doug9_> thank you all
[05:45] <MelGibson> would a shell account usually have pdflatex for instance?
[05:45] <doug9_> I'm going to wait for U to make Nvidia work
[05:45] <jack_> for me?!
[05:45] <jack_> hehe
[05:45] <jack_> doug9: its not hard to blacklist the driver. you need to edit the kernel parameter. just add 'rdblacklist=nouveau' to the end
[05:45] <jack_> that'll stop it from loading and you should get gui
[05:46] <NinjaJeff> Jordan_U: Would another user on the machine see my username in a who?
[05:46] <meltphace> MelGibson: maybe. depends on the service
[05:46] <NinjaJeff> Thanks, meltphace.
[05:46] <meltphace> MelGibson: it really makes more sense to just run linux or cygwin if you really need these things
[05:46] <Jordan_U> NinjaJeff: Yes.
[05:46] <meltphace> miktex is also really easy to setup, esp with texniccenter
[05:46] <doug9_> thanks jack, doug out
[05:46] <_marx_> oh gee i must go have a smoke now yall crack me up!
[05:47] <MelGibson> meltphace i'm not going to just run linux
[05:47] <sacarlson> jack_: doug9_: I'm not sure but another option might be to create a xorg.conf file to tell it what driver you want to use on your nvidia card
[05:48] <Rask> Hey guys.  I'm trying to install kubuntu (but that channel is dead silent) and running into some trouble.  I believe I'm suffering from the issue with nvidia cards, powermizer, and resulting screen flicker.  I see two similar solutions online, but both refer to files that no longer seem to exist in 10.04.
[05:48] <Rask> One refers to /etc/modprobe.d/options, which doesn't exist anymore, and the other refers to xorg.conf, which doesn't exist anymore.
[05:48] <doug9_> Nvidia narcosis
[05:48] <sacarlson> doug9_:  but personaly I don't upgrade unless needed.  if 9.1 works stick with it,  if it was an upgrade you might even be able to just move back one version of kernel in your grub settings
[05:49] <Rask> By way of background, let me say that I really, really want to become a linux user, but every single time I've tried over the past ten years or so, I've hit a debilitating problem that nobody can explain or solve and I end up using Windows for another few years.
[05:49] <Rask> Will you help me break the cycle?  Please?  :)
[05:49] <ruan> why don't you try ubuntu?
[05:49] <ohsix> also 10.10, not 10.04
[05:49] <ruan> hmm whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu
[05:49] <Rask> KDE versus GNOME.
[05:49] <ruan> ah
[05:50] <lighta> gui is not only what differenciate distribution
[05:50] <SwedeMike> Rask: xorg.conf exists, but if it's not there, it uses defaults. You can still create one.
[05:50] <Rask> SwedeMike: Ok.  How do I do that?
[05:50] <ohsix> Rask: well if you really want to use it, KDE i sn't a _great_ start
[05:50] <Macstheyjustsuck> My PSP used to work properly on Maverick, but then I restarted and now it shows up in Maverick, but doesn't let me go into it or see what's on it or anything, how do I fix this?
[05:50] <Rask> I mean, the website I found suggests a way to modify xorg.conf, but I dunno about starting with a totally blank slate...
[05:50] <meltphace> MelGibson: then what are you doing in #ubuntu you silly
[05:51] <GanjaReefer> trying to get X forwarding on SSH, have the options set to yes in both ssh_config and sshd_config trying ssh -X but no display variale shows up...
[05:52] <SwedeMike> Rask: http://tinypaste.com/3b49f is mine for instance, you can create it and just use a few subsections.
[05:52] <Chikokishi> I was listening to a song, then the sound on my computer suddenly stopped again.. Why does it keep doing this!?
[05:53] <ohsix> Chikokishi: sounds like pulseaudio is dying, how fast is your machine? if it uses too much cpu it tends to kill itself (but you can change the resampler so it uses less cpu)
[05:54] <craigpemberton> hello is this the Ubuntu help irc chat?
[05:54] <Chikokishi> My computer is only a couple months old.  Its fast enough to play regular games and watch dvds and such
[05:54] <ohsix> probably something else then
[05:54] <Chikokishi> and the sound has been working for like 6 hours
[05:54] <ruan> craigpemberton: yes
[05:54] <indecipherable> i love it when people rate the speed of machine based on the date purchased.
[05:54] <Chikokishi> Indecipherable, i mean its not an old machine with a smaller processor.
[05:55] <SwedeMike> Chikokishi: there are brand new computers that are slower than 4 year old ones.
[05:55] <craigpemberton> does anybody here know their way around grub2 and getting it to boot windows7?
[05:55] <Chikokishi> i know... Im just saying (in a simple way) that its fast enough to run music
[05:55] <Ritlee> craigpemberton, have you messed with your boot?
[05:55] <lighta> craigpemberton, isn't your question to default windows for start ?
[05:55] <Chikokishi> im not sure of its exact speed
[05:56] <SwedeMike> craigpemberton: the first hit on google for <grub2 booting windows 7> is http://erickoo.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/how-to-add-vista-partition-to-grub-2-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/ which looks quite comprehensible.
[05:56] <craigpemberton> I have a working windows partition, but I'm having trouble getting grub to accept it
[05:56] <ohsix> Chikokishi: i only ask that to rule out a quick swath of problems, brand new netbooks can be "too slow" at times, though
[05:56] <craigpemberton> I've been through that
[05:57] <tech_1> hi>>
[05:57] <Chikokishi> Well, iv got a dual core 2.3 ghz proc with 3gb of mem
[05:57] <sacarlson> craigpemberton:  so it already boots ubuntu?  it should have created a grub2 entry already,  did you look at boot by holding shift key at boot time?
[05:58] <craigpemberton> I can edit the menu entry in grub, the issue is that all configurations I have seen result in in this error message: "A disk read error occurred. Press ctrl+alt+del to restart"
[05:58] <craigpemberton> for windows
[05:58] <Ritlee> craigpemberton, i just sent you a link to a graphical grub customizer that i use
[05:58] <craigpemberton> ubuntu boots fine
[05:58] <Ritlee> you should give it a try
[05:58] <GanjaReefer> trying to get X forwarding on SSH, have the options set to yes in both ssh_config and sshd_config trying ssh -X but no display variale shows up...
[05:59] <lighta> craigpemberton, are you sure you windows partition is fine ? this error seem like not
[05:59] <Ritlee> craigpemberton, then there's something wrong with your windows install
[05:59] <Chikokishi> ohsix, how do i restart pulse audio?
[05:59] <Rask> Ok, the xorg.conf fix looks more questionable than the modprobe one anyway... can we look back at that one?  Basically I'm trying to add a couple 'option' lines to /etc/modprobe.d/options or its equivalent in 10.04.  I'm led to understand by the manpage that the equivalent thing here is just to create any old .conf file in /etc/modprobe.d/ so I've done this but it doesn't appear to work.  Is there a way to know whether the files have been read pro
[06:00] <craigpemberton> I can read from the windows partition from ubuntu and everything seems to be in place
[06:00] <guest> hello
[06:00] <sacarlson> craigpemberton: that sounds like you had a bad shutdown in windows and needs a windows like file check to fix it.  I'm not sure linux has anything to fix ntfs files systems
[06:01] <ohsix> Chikokishi: if it quit (which it probably has if sound has stopped) it will restart
[06:01] <craigpemberton> I had grub1 down just fine.... this new grub seems like overkill
[06:01] <Chikokishi> ohsix it hasnt yet
[06:01] <Chikokishi> ohsix, restarting my machien doesnt fix it either
[06:01] <Chikokishi> ohsix, last time this happened my computer finally did a "
[06:01] <lighta> yeah had this change too was hard 1st day...
[06:01] <Chikokishi> partial update" then it worked
[06:02] <lighta> did you run grub update already ?
[06:02] <craigpemberton> yeah... i edit my etc/grub.d/11_Windows script, then sudo update-grub, then what i had shows up in my grub.cfg
[06:02] <ohsix> Chikokishi: hard to say, there are logs in /var/log that might have something to say about why pulse exited, if it actually did
[06:02] <craigpemberton> then i can boot to the boot loader
[06:03] <craigpemberton> and what i've put is there faithfully
[06:03] <craigpemberton> I've tried a bunch of different things and I've been looking at the grub documentation
[06:03] <Chikokishi> ohsix how do i get there
[06:04] <ruan> var/log? you go there.
[06:04] <Chilaquiles> Hey my ubuntu 10.10 doesn't recognize any usb flash drive, it was recongnizing them before, any suggestions?
[06:04] <bazhang> Chilaquiles, cleanly remove from windows
[06:04] <Chikokishi> ruan well.. yes.. but like. is that in my computer, is that in documents...  Iv only been on ubuntu for 3 days
[06:05] <ruan> Chikokishi: its in filesystem of ubuntu
[06:05] <Chilaquiles> bazhang: what?
[06:05] <sacarlson> craigpemberton: I guess I was wrong there is a tool in linux to fix ntfs file systems called ntfsfix
[06:05] <ruan> Chikokishi: root of drive
[06:05] <craigpemberton> I might just reinstall everything which would be a pain but possibly cleaner....
[06:05] <craigpemberton> guh
[06:05] <ruan> log viewer also works
[06:06] <codewiz> currently any problems with pidgin or the icq servers? i corrected the server adress to login.icq.com maybe a month or two ago, now i cant log in
[06:06] <ohsix> bazhang: he was here earlier about that; all his external drives stopped working at some point, not just one
[06:06] <bazhang> Chilaquiles, sounds like you just yanked them out with syncing the cache
[06:06] <Chilaquiles> bazhang: so what do you recommend?
[06:06] <lighta> just erase windows then hehe (ok not fun)
[06:06] <Ritlee> craigpemberton, you might backup your grub to a disk that you can boot off of (ie floopy or usb) that will start your ubuntu install... once that is done, load the windows 7 install disk in your system and boot off it, and repair your win 7 install... i think you may have just a file or two that are critical for windows to start corrupted
[06:06] <sacarlson> craigpemberton: sounds simple http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/ntfsfix.8.html
[06:06] <bazhang> Chilaquiles, go back into windows, then cleanly remove them after syncing the cache
[06:07] <Chikokishi> ruan i dont have permission to see the root folder in my filesystem drive.  How do i get there?
[06:07] <Chilaquiles> bazhang: sorry but I don't know how to sync the cache
[06:07] <ahaziah77> jack_, cool, appreciate the help, i was able to successfully move and use the skins for vlc
[06:07] <ruan> Chikokishi: i meant the root of the drive, which means the start of the drive
[06:07] <craigpemberton> craigp@goldfoot> sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda5
[06:07] <craigpemberton> Mounting volume... OK
[06:07] <craigpemberton> Processing of $MFT and $MFTMirr completed successfully.
[06:07] <Chikokishi> oh, i was in there and i didnt see "var" i saw like bin and etc and such..
[06:08] <craigpemberton> NTFS volume version is 3.1.
[06:08] <craigpemberton> NTFS partition /dev/sda5 was processed successfully.
[06:08] <FloodBot1> craigpemberton: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:08] <craigpemberton> craigp@goldfoot>
[06:08] <ruan> !paste
[06:08] <bazhang> Chilaquiles, simple: insert, select remove cleanly or somesuch
[06:08] <Chikokishi> ruan, ah i got it i was in ubuntu drive not root drive >.<
[06:08] <Chilaquiles> bazhang: ok, let me try that
[06:08] <bazhang> sacarlson, he'd be better off fixing it in windows, ntfsprogs wont do that
[06:08] <tech_1> hi friends any one help me to setup james server.
[06:08] <ruan> !ask
[06:09] <bazhang> tech_1, what is that
[06:09] <Chikokishi> Okay, now im there what kind of log am i looking for exactly?
[06:09] <sacarlson> craigpemberton: I don't think you have a grub2 problem it's a ntfs file system problem with a posible simple fix with http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man8/ntfsfix.8.html and a bazhang states windows must have better tools
[06:09] <bazhang> sacarlson, he quit
[06:09] <tech_1> it is used to setup mailserver using java..
[06:10] <glitchd> can someone help me make a pythol script execute from a shortcut on my top panel??please??
[06:10] <tech_1> it is java mailserver
[06:10] <ruan> tech_1: what is the question?
[06:10] <bazhang> tech_1, in the ubuntu repos?
[06:10] <Gwar_Trolle> Hi guys, I have three questions about the 4.0b12+, since the Firefox IRC channel is completely dead. 1) is there a way to change the colour of the white  screen that shows in a new tab before the page loads? 2) Is there a way to keep the find bar up when refreshing/changing tabs like it used to do? 3) What happened to Googles Scrollbar lol!?
[06:10] <GanjaReefer> trying to get X forwarding on SSH, have the options set to yes in both ssh_config and sshd_config trying ssh -X but no display variale shows up...
[06:10] <glitchd> jack_, u still there??
[06:10] <bazhang> Gwar_Trolle, installed from where? ubuntu repos? PPA?
[06:11] <tech_1> how can we setup james mail server.
[06:11] <Gwar_Trolle> bazhang: Mozilla Daily PPA. Asking here because #firefox has no-one alive
[06:11] <bazhang> tech_1, where was it installed from
[06:11] <ruan> Gwar_Trolle: the white screen can be changed with an addon: "Stylish"
[06:11] <Chikokishi> ohsix im in the var/log.  What should i look for?
[06:11] <Rask> From the top again :)  Hey guys, I'm trying to solve an issue with my nVidia card by putting an option line into /etc/modprobe.d/options - unfortunately that file doesn't exist anymore.  Where should I put it instead, and how can I verify that the system has correctly interpreted it?
[06:11] <Gwar_Trolle> ruan: I have that, what do I need to make it to change? I have "new tab" changed, but that doesn't change the loading screen thing
[06:11] <bazhang> tech_1, please answer my question instead of simply repeating your question
[06:11] <Chilaquiles> bazhang: is that gonna make that my machine can detect all my usb drives?
[06:12] <bazhang> Chilaquiles, lets try it and see
[06:12] <mycosys> rask would likely go in x11 config
[06:13] <Rask> mycosys: Except it doesn't.  The majority of pages I've turned up googling for this have alluded to an option in modprobe.
[06:13] <ruan> Gwar_Trolle: hmm, you could use a universal dark style
[06:13] <tech_1> it is installed from james.org
[06:13] <GanjaReefer> well used -v to see debug and somehow now it works -,-
[06:13] <bazhang> tech_1, and what does that have to do with ubuntu?
[06:13] <Gwar_Trolle> ruan: That kind of defeats the point of wanting to change one thing...
[06:13] <mycosys> what are you actually trying to set rask?
[06:13] <ruan> Gwar_Trolle: yeah i know
[06:14] <juabn1> i need help
[06:14] <bazhang> juabn1, with?
[06:14] <juabn1> i install compiz fusion
[06:14] <GanjaReefer> is that a bug!?
[06:14] <ruan> how can i change the size of the audio buffer?
[06:14] <bazhang> juabn1, its installed by default; did you mean ccsm?
[06:14] <tech_1> actctuy i want to setup smtp to sending mail using java.
[06:15] <Rask> mycosys:
[06:15] <Chilaquiles> bazhang: it didn't do anything
[06:15] <Rask> options nvidia NVreg_RegistryDwords='PerfLevelSrc=0x2222'
[06:15] <Rask> options nvidia NVreg_Mobile=1
[06:15] <juabn1> i write in terminal
[06:15] <juabn1> compiz --replace
[06:15] <juabn1> now compiz isn't work
[06:16] <bazhang> juabn1, you should do that in run dialog alt f2
[06:16] <bazhang> juabn1, try alt f2 metacity --replace
[06:17] <mycosys> see /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx-<ver#>/
[06:17] <mycosys> rask
[06:17] <Chilaquiles> Hey my ubuntu 10.10 doesn't recognize any usb flash drive, it was recongnizing them before, any suggestions?
[06:17] <bazhang> Chilaquiles, how many usb sticks/drives
[06:17] <Chilaquiles> bazhang: like 10
[06:18] <mycosys> rask http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Nvidia best documentation i have seen of nv binary blob
[06:18] <juabn1> don't work :(
[06:18] <bazhang> Chilaquiles, and you tested them all? cleanly removing after inserting?
[06:18] <Chilaquiles> bazhang: yes
[06:18] <gaelfx> is there an easy way to stream movies from my Ubuntu box to other computers (regardless of OS) on the same LAN?
[06:18] <Chilaquiles> bazhang: they work in the other ubuntu machine that I have
[06:19] <bazhang> gaelfx, perhaps mediatomb
[06:19] <bazhang> !info mediatomb | gaelfx
[06:19] <phonex01> oh hello
[06:19] <Rask> mycosys: I don't know what good that is to me... I'm just trying to find out at this point whether modprobe actually acted on the conf file I created or not.  How do I do that?
[06:20] <ruan> !hello
[06:20] <AbhijiT> hi
[06:20] <phonex01> how can i open .vce file used by " Visual Certexam" in ubuntu without using wine to install the Visual certexam ?
[06:20] <AbhijiT> which should i downlod in this? why there is no linux font? http://desktoppub.about.com/library/fonts/hs/uc_scriptina.htm
[06:21] <ohsix> AbhijiT: theres lots of linux fonts, theres even an ubuntu ont
[06:22] <AbhijiT> ohsix, i am talking about 'that' link
[06:22] <robbiethe1st> Hello, all. I've got a problem with Grub2. I just now installed Kubuntu from a liveCD onto a MD raid partition, chrooted into it, installed mdadm and did grub-install etc... Yet when I try to boot off it, I get an -old- grub menu. Stuff that's not in /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[06:22] <Guest87758> is their an about me section in ubuntu?
[06:22] <phonex01> how can i open .vce file used by " Visual Certexam" in ubuntu without using wine to install the Visual certexam ?
[06:23] <soid__> hi! I have 2 OSs on my laptop: ubuntu & windows. How do I "hibernate" linux and load windows and restore state linux then?
[06:23] <juabn1> i  need help    i write compiz --replace   and compiz don't work :'(
[06:23] <ohsix> soid__: the stuff nightmares are made of!
[06:24] <soid__> ohsix, which?
[06:24] <ohsix> hibernating one and using the other
[06:24] <Jdogg420> when i click compiz fusion icon it logs me out of ubuntu ??
[06:24] <dirty-harry> Guest87758: you can click on your username in gnome, maybe that's what your looking for
[06:24] <ohsix> the shared partitions if they're mounted will be severely damaged
[06:24] <soid__> so is it impossible?
[06:25] <ohsix> no, but not worth the risk of it ever happening
[06:25] <soid__> maybe not hibernate but something like that?
[06:26] <robbiethe1st> soid: so long as you don't share partitions between the OS's...
[06:26] <amarin> hi
[06:26] <amarin> need help
[06:26] <soid__> how do I do that on my risk? just when I hibernate my linux it doesn't show me grub when reloading
[06:26] <Jdogg420> when i click the compiz fusion icon it logs me out of desktop
[06:26] <amarin> major problem with chromium
[06:27] <amarin> in unity
[06:27] <amarin> I have chromium installed but as soon as I click preferences under unity the whole computer freezes
[06:27] <amarin> unity is a piece of crap but it looks nice
[06:27] <Chilaquiles> Hey my ubuntu 10.10 doesn't recognize any usb flash drive, it was recongnizing them before, any suggestions?
[06:27] <Jdogg420> how do i see iv my graphic driver is installed in a terminal?
[06:27] <amarin> ubuntu 10.10.
[06:28] <ebah> dirty-harry, honestly, I'm trying to figure out if this computer was stolen. It already had xubuntu installed, so I thought I would check to make sure the original owner is the one who sold it to me
[06:28] <ebah> I don't have any reason to believe it was
[06:28] <lighta> Jdogg420, lshw -c display
[06:28] <Jdogg420> how do i see iv my graphic driver is installed in a terminal?
[06:28] <amarin> unity needs updated on ubuntu 10.10.
[06:28] <soid__> robbiethe1st, how do I do that on my risk? just when I hibernate my linux it doesn't show me grub when reloading
[06:28] <robbiethe1st> Jdogg: glxinfo
[06:28] <amarin> it clashes with chromium and generates no error reporting.
[06:29] <robbiethe1st> soid: Try messing around with the grub.cfg(etc) files, and google the same
[06:30] <soid__> robbiethe1st, ok, thanks
[06:30] <robbiethe1st> Mind, I'm on my phone right now, so I can't type fast etc.
[06:30] <amarin> anybody know why unity clashes with chromium
[06:31] <glitchd> does anyone have a clue how to make a python script execute from and icon shortcut on my top panel??
[06:31] <dirty-harry> ebah: oh, that's something different
[06:31] <robbiethe1st> amarin: might want to ask the chromium people?
[06:31] <amarin> unity it only happens with unity.
[06:31] <dnkbd> I need help with wireless on Maverick, it is a Realtek card.
[06:31] <amarin> how do i get into a chromium irc channel
[06:32] <lighta> glitchd, why don't you just make a launcher on ou destock lauching you script ?
[06:32] <robbiethe1st> glitchd: make it an excecutable python file, then drag it into the panel?
[06:32] <dnkbd> Please?
[06:32] <glitchd> robbiethe1st, i did that and it does nothing
[06:32] <lighta> does it have right
[06:32] <lighta> to execte ?
[06:32] <dirty-harry> ebah: honestly I have no idea where to start on this...
[06:33] <lighta> check if he have x permission glitchd
[06:33] <amarin> hi
[06:33] <robbiethe1st> glitchd: you can run it by double-clicking, right?
[06:33] <Chipzzz> glitchd: do you have a shebang at the start of the file?
[06:33] <mc1> Morning! Anybody can help me with this: I upgraded from Jaunty to Maverick. In this process I lost proprietary display drivers and thus the ability to have 3D and desktop effects and certain windows games I play on Wine and no screen-savers either. The upgrade was through Internet download.
[06:33] <robbiethe1st> mc1: reinstall the driver
[06:33] <Ntemis> hello anyone able to help me on my ubuntu server
[06:33] <AbhijiT> hi
[06:33] <amarin> hi
[06:33] <AbhijiT> ibus is not working for libreoffice. help
[06:33] <dnkbd> No, no  wifi help?
[06:34] <Ntemis> i have this error
[06:34] <Ntemis> http://pastebin.de/15314
[06:34] <Chipzzz> glitchd: (#!path/to/python)
[06:34] <amarin> unity kills chromium in ubuntu 10.10
[06:34] <Ntemis> how i get rid of it?
[06:34] <glitchd> Chipzzz, yes i do
[06:34] <mc1> robbieth1st: Hello! What driver?? How?? I've only used Linux for short time
[06:34] <amarin> restricted drivers
[06:34] <amarin> nvidia or ati
[06:34] <glitchd> robbiethe1st, no i cannot, it only either opens the editor or it opens and closes in a flash
[06:35] <amarin> delete linux that should fix all your problems
[06:35] <Chipzzz> glitchd: and the file is executable?
[06:35] <robbiethe1st> glitchd: try having the first line be: "#/usr/bin/python"
[06:35] <glitchd> yes
[06:35] <glitchd> Chipzzz, yes
[06:35] <dnkbd> Well to those kind folks out there that may or may not be reading this....lshw -C Network shows my wifi adapter but it is marked disabled and network manager nor wicd can see any wireless networks
[06:36] <glitchd> robbiethe1st, it is
[06:36] <Jdogg420> when i do sudo  lshw -c display
[06:36] <Jdogg420> i get this  *-display UNCLAIMED
[06:36] <robbiethe1st> glitchd: optn a terminal to that directory, type "./myscript.py"
[06:36] <lighta> dnkbd, so ? you want to turn it on ?
[06:36] <robbiethe1st> what happens?
[06:36] <Jdogg420>  capabilities: pm agp agp-3.0 vga_controller bus_master cap_list
[06:36] <Jdogg420>        configuration: latency=32 mingnt=2
[06:37] <Jdogg420> does that mean it has the right driver?
[06:37] <dnkbd> lighta, yes, i guess lol, but the physical switch is on
[06:37] <Jdogg420> description: VGA compatible controller
[06:37] <Jdogg420>        product: K8M800/K8N800/K8N800A [S3 UniChrome Pro]
[06:37] <lighta> try something like ifconfig wlan0 up
[06:37] <glitchd> robbiethe1st, that runs the script
[06:37] <Chipzzz> glitchd: ... need a couple of minutes to figure it out
[06:37] <dnkbd> lighta, I get operation not permitted
[06:38] <glitchd> robbiethe1st, i want to make a shortcut on my top panel to run it instead of goin thru term each time
[06:38] <lighta> well put sudo cmd
[06:38] <glitchd> Chipzzz, thxthx
[06:38] <dnkbd> lighta, even with sudo and even with sudo su
[06:38] <ebah> dirty-harry, I found some stuff under users and groups. It looks to be the same guy, so I'm not too worried.
[06:38] <AbhijiT> ibus is not working for libreoffice. help
[06:38] <amarin> UNITY IS A PIECE OF SHIT
[06:38] <karanmenon> my vga output doesnt work
[06:38] <amarin> FIX YOUR FUCKING CODE
[06:38] <robbiethe1st> glitchd: You can try "gnome-terminal -e /path/to/file.py" IIRC
[06:38] <ruan> !lang
[06:38] <robbiethe1st> and run -that-
[06:38] <glitchd> robbiethe1st, iirc??
[06:38] <bazhang> amarin, watch the language
[06:38] <AbhijiT> amarin, #ubuntu+1
[06:38] <karanmenon> how do i get my VGA to work?
[06:38] <lighta> :( idk then do you have a physical switch for your wifi ?
[06:38] <ruan> !language
[06:38] <robbiethe1st> If I Recall Correctly
[06:38] <mc1> Anybody can help me with this: I upgraded from Jaunty to Maverick. In this process I lost proprietary display drivers and thus the ability to have 3D and desktop effects and certain windows games I play on Wine and no screen-savers either. The upgrade was through Internet download.
[06:39] <dnkbd> lighta, yes and it is on and the light is on
[06:39] <AbhijiT> !vga | karanmenon
[06:39] <robbiethe1st> mc1: go to extra drivers, install it again?
[06:39] <dnkbd> this has been giving me trouble for a while, nothing in additional drivers either.
[06:39] <mc1> robbiethe1st: can you tell me how???
[06:40] <karanmenon> can someone help me to get my VGA output to work?
[06:40] <lighta> may you paste your ifconfig result please ?
[06:40] <Laibsch> My netbook wifi frequently disconnects.  Signal strength is two of four bars as indicated by Network Manager.  Where should I look to find the reason?  /var/log/syslog does not seem have any entry related to this.
[06:40] <Laibsch> Does NM reconnect if the connection from the LAN to the internet does not work and there are other configured wifi networks available?
[06:40] <dnkbd> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:1e:33:bd:d5:10
[06:40] <dnkbd>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[06:40] <dnkbd>           inet6 addr: fe80::21e:33ff:febd:d510/64 Scope:Link
[06:40] <dnkbd>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[06:40] <dnkbd>           RX packets:3638 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[06:40] <FloodBot1> dnkbd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:40] <dnkbd>           TX packets:3028 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[06:40] <lighta> !paste | dnkbd
[06:40] <Ntemis> anyone able to help me?
[06:40] <robbiethe1st> mc1: Um, under main menu > system or something like that
[06:40] <Ntemis> unsupported RAID level: -1
[06:41] <Ntemis> http://pastebin.de/15314
[06:41] <glitchd> robbiethe1st, i pm'd u
[06:41] <dnkbd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/569498/
[06:41] <AbhijiT> ibus is not working for libreoffice. help
[06:42] <dnkbd> lighta, wlan2 is not listed there but iwconfig shows it
[06:42] <lighta> hmm ok
[06:42] <amarin> THE ROCK IS BACK ON WWE
[06:43] <amarin> Dwayne Johnston is back.
[06:43] <rww> !ot
[06:43] <amarin> The rock is going to show the world he is the most electrifying man in all of entertainment.
[06:44] <lubosz> hi. how do i install 32bit libs in 64bit ubuntu that are not part of ia32-libs?
[06:44] <mc1> robbiethe1st: the "additional drivers window" shows "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system", and it's quite empty.
[06:44] <schock> argh. can't get out of run in failsafe graphic mode
[06:45] <dnkbd> lighta, i don't understand..... it is like it knows it is there but won't show....
[06:45] <Chipzzz> glitchd: you still with us?
[06:46] <gaelfx> ok, I installed mediatomb, but when I start it says the UI is disabled, so I edited the config file , changed the setting to yes and restarted mediatomb service, but it still says the UI is disabled. What am I doing wrong?
[06:46] <dnkbd> lighta, also i have tried cancucked and chili's solutions from the forum and yet nothing.
[06:46] <robbiethe1st> mc1: what graphics card do you have? AMD:
[06:46] <lighta> dnkbd, check your pm
[06:47] <Chipzzz> glitchd: I have your answer...
[06:49] <lubosz> is there a better solution than unpacking the deb and copying it into /usr/lib32 ?
[06:50] <Chipzzz> lubosz: you could install them with deb
[06:51] <lubosz> when i download a 32bit deb, won't it overwrite the 64bit package?
[06:51] <gaelfx> ok, I have mediatomb working, but it's not really what I thought it would be
[06:55] <Chipzzz> lubosz: I wouldn't think so but use gdebi to make sure
[06:55] <lubosz> ok thx Chipzzz
[06:56] <Chipzzz> glitchd: are you still here?
[06:56]  * schock throws up hands
[06:56] <schock> time for a fresh install
[06:57] <schock> (sony vaio z11)
[06:57] <schock> maybe I'll have more luck with Natty :P
[06:57] <lubosz> oh shii vaio
[06:58] <lubosz> schock: natty is unstable, so it won't run better. the only thing that could help you is the more recent kernel
[06:59] <Ntemis> schock: manually install <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:59] <schock> Ntemis: did that
[06:59] <Ntemis> i see
[06:59] <Ntemis> and..
[06:59] <lubosz> schock: if vaio z11 is not brand new, then the new kernel won't help you either
[06:59] <schock> it's brand new lubosz
[06:59] <lubosz> schock: what is the problem on 10.10?
[07:00] <Ntemis> what is the problem with it?
[07:00] <lubosz> ok
[07:00] <schock> get it yesterday
[07:00] <lubosz> then go with archlinux
[07:00] <schock> :)
[07:00] <lubosz> :p
[07:00] <FloodBot1> lubosz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:00] <schock> ok so the problem is, i'm trying to get the nvidia card working
[07:00] <lubosz> schock: install the beta driver
[07:00] <lubosz> 270
[07:00] <ohsix> schock: if you wanna see if whatever your problem is is fixed on natty; you can try one of the daily images http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[07:00] <schock> maybe that's the problem and i should stick w/intel...
[07:00] <tim_> I'm having trouble installing the linux 4.6 version of Vuze, the version in the repo's ias out of date
[07:00] <lubosz> schock: i'm also on vaio. the nvidia drivers pre 270 did not work
[07:00] <schock> ohsix: i have yesterday's :)
[07:01] <lubosz> i had to use a legacy driver (250 something)
[07:01] <ohsix> schock: ah keen
[07:01] <schock> lubosz: so which driver... where can i get it?
[07:01] <lubosz> schock: do you know how to use the terminal without a x server?
[07:01] <schock> I was trying to follow the steps at adam's vaioz kernal hacks
[07:01] <lubosz> then  install a drvier from nvidia.com
[07:01] <lubosz> and remove the one from ubuntu
[07:01] <schock> but then, i realized i don't care about having both cards
[07:01] <lubosz> but maybe there is a ppa for nvidia beta driver
[07:01] <schock> i just want one working well
[07:01] <lubosz> you could use that, if it exists
[07:02] <schock> who the f#$ needs to switch between cards? i still get 4-5 hours with nvidia :P
[07:02] <schock> I'm on round 3 of trying :)
[07:02] <lubosz> switching betwwen card is pain in the arse
[07:02] <mycosys> can just use the nvidia installer from their site
[07:02] <lubosz> you need to switch libgl an stuff
[07:03] <tim_> Im trying to install  from the source file available on the vuze website. I can't get it to install though... any help?
[07:03] <schock> i got it to the point where everything worked, except i had to boot to 'graphics safe mode' but it wasn't really..
[07:03] <schock> i tried the nvidia installer... no joy
[07:03] <lubosz> schock: which version did you try?
[07:03] <lubosz> schock: did you remove the nvidia packages from ubuntu?
[07:03] <schock> i think i probably created a conflict
[07:03] <lubosz> yes
[07:04] <schock> first i installed w'install drivers' gui
[07:04] <lubosz> you need to remove all the nvidia packages from apt
[07:04] <lubosz> the drivers in ubuntu are propably too old
[07:04] <schock> then, later i was following a guide and installed manually from nvidia site
[07:04] <lubosz> you have to use the beta driver 270
[07:04] <schock> lubosz: from where?
[07:04] <Chipzzz> tim: how did you try to install it & what happened?
[07:05] <lubosz> nvidia.com, if there is no way to do this by deb
[07:05] <lubosz> which i don't know
[07:05] <lubosz> i think there could be a ppa around somewhere
[07:05] <lubosz> it would be the cleaner solution
[07:05] <lubosz> the nvidia installer conflicts with the package managment
[07:05] <schock> mm
[07:05] <Chipzzz> tim_: how did you try to install it & what happened?
[07:05] <ruan> how do i set audacity to record from speakers?
[07:05] <ruan> aka stereo
[07:06] <tim_> chipzzzz, extracted from the .bz2 file, then moved it to my home directory. then went into it in terminal ./vuze.................................can I paste my output from there?
[07:06] <sacarlson> tim_:  what feature is making you want to install direct vuze instead of sudo apt-get install vuze ?
[07:06] <tim_> devices feature is not in the version in repos
[07:06] <lubosz> schock: http://pkgs.org/download/ubuntu-10.10/ubuntu-x-amd64/nvidia-current_270.18-0ubuntu1~maverick~xup1_amd64.deb.html
[07:07] <sacarlson> tim_: nothing in ppa?
[07:07] <schock> thanks@
[07:07] <ohsix> lubosz: that doesn't look like it's a good idea to install
[07:07] <devin> Hello everyone
[07:07] <lubosz> ohsix: it's a mirror from some ppa, i didn't find the source
[07:07] <devin> anyone have luck getting printers to work with ubutnu?
[07:07] <lubosz> find the source repo for that and add it with apt-add-repository
[07:08] <robbiethe1st> devin: absolutely no problem.
[07:08] <schock> http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/nvidia-current_270.18-0ubuntu1~maverick~xup1_amd64.deb
[07:08] <devin> I have a hp deskjet 1000
[07:08] <ohsix> lubosz: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[07:08] <devin> will the driver be found automatically?
[07:09] <tim_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/569513/
[07:09] <lubosz> schock: don't install the deb manually, add the ppa
[07:09] <lubosz> schock: the one ohsix linked
[07:09] <schock> ok
[07:10] <schock> thanks
[07:10] <schock> i guess i should do a fresh 10.10 install, not natty ;)
[07:10] <tim_> sacarlson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/569513/
[07:11] <bullgard> The metapackage ubuntu-desktop depends on the package smbclient. How can I modify the metapackage ubuntu-desktop so that it no longer depends on smbclient?
[07:11] <tim_> sacarlson, looks to be a Java problem... I'm a bit of a noob, sorry
[07:11] <Chipzzz> tim_: looks like either it's missing dependencies, not installed properly, or both
[07:11] <tim_> Chipzzz, ok thanks.... what are my options then?
[07:12] <sacarlson> tim_:  another reason not to install 64bit ubuntu Cannot load 64-bit SWT libraries on 32-bit JVM
[07:13] <tim_> sacarlson, i think i'm on 32 bit on this system
[07:13] <dirty-harry> question---> do I need to encrypt my swap manually; thought I was asked the last time I installed and didn't checked afterwards
[07:15] <Chipzzz> tim_: did you follow the installation instructions here: http://wiki.vuze.com/w/Initial_Setup_Guide ?
[07:15] <mycosys> tim_ would recommend deluge over vuze - much lighter client
[07:16] <tim_> mycosys, yes, but I want to use the Vuze devices feature to play files on my Samsung TV
[07:16] <mycosys> i have mythtv for that lol
[07:17] <sacarlson> tim_:  what does this show you? uname -a
[07:18] <tim_> sacarlson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/569519/
[07:20] <Fausto> irc notification  is shit
[07:22] <Daskreech> Hello can someone help with an nvidia card glitching?
[07:22] <Daskreech> It flickers from the Grub meni
[07:22] <Daskreech> Menu
[07:22] <maco> !language | Fausto
[07:22] <LouisVuittonBags> http://img282.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=27802_962_full_122_162lo.jpg
[07:22] <v_v> Hello all i am using 9.04 , when i compile a thread program i am getting this Error ,,, thread.h: No such file or directory
[07:22] <foxjazz> so I copied a large file onto an existing usb drive. Now when I put the drive on a windows machine, it complains.
[07:23] <foxjazz> I can't rename or delete the file I copied, it says unable
[07:23] <Fausto> ok but  this notification     can stop?
[07:23] <Fausto> can the admin  stop   notification?
[07:23] <foxjazz> any ideas?
[07:23] <Fausto> (04:20:53) robotarmy ha salido de la sala (quit: Remote host closed the connection).
[07:23] <Fausto> (04:21:48) Elv13 ha salido de la sala (quit: Ping timeout: 276 seconds).
[07:23] <Fausto> (04:21:53) blag ha salido de la sala (quit: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner <IP_ADDRESS>/20101206140217]).
[07:23] <Fausto> (04:21:56) StepNjump<EMAIL_ADDRESS>ha entrado en la sala.
[07:23] <Fausto> (04:21:59) Daskreech [~skreech@katapult/ninja/daskreech] ha entrado en la sala.
[07:23] <Fausto> (04:22:01) v_v<EMAIL_ADDRESS>ha entrado en la sala.
[07:23] <Fausto> (04:22:08) Ethan`<EMAIL_ADDRESS>ha entrado en la sala.
[07:23] <Fausto> (04:22:12) headyadmin ha salido de la sala (quit: Quit: headyadmin).
[07:23] <FloodBot1> Fausto: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:23] <Chipzzz> LouisVuittonBags: rofl
[07:24] <LouisVuittonBags> :)
[07:24] <tsimpson> Fausto: that depends on your client
[07:24] <Stevezau> a udev rule with ENV{ID_INPUT_KEYBOARD}=="0" should disable xorg from adding the device as a keyboard right?
[07:24] <Fausto> mmm
[07:24] <v_v> Fausto: whats is that meand man ?
[07:24] <Fausto> i use pidgin
[07:25] <ylmfos> who is this?
[07:26] <tsimpson> Fausto: apparently there is a "Join/Part Hiding plugin" that comes with pidgin, you'll need to load and use that
[07:26] <cdbs> ylmfos: This is the support channel for Ubuntu
[07:26] <sacarlson> tim_: that looks like 32bit to me I'm not sure why you have that problem then
[07:28] <gyyrog> I installed vmware tools via synaptic. on restart it is telling me to wait or go to command prompt
[07:28] <gyyrog> I have been waiting a half hour
[07:28] <Wished_M> hi
[07:28] <gyyrog> Is something going wrong?
[07:28] <Wished_M> hi hyyrog
[07:28] <tim_> sacarlson, hmmmm... I'm searching for a deb file for version 4.6
[07:29] <Wished_M> any one got an idea about windows live messenger ?
[07:29] <sacarlson> tim_ might try this: sudo get-build-deps vuze
[07:29] <Fausto> can not speak with so many notifications
[07:29] <robbiethe1st> Wished_M: Um... It's evil?
[07:30] <Daskreech> gyyrog: sounds excessive
[07:30] <Wished_M> robbiethe no but its not compatible with other versions
[07:30] <Wished_M> robbiethe which version ur using ?
[07:30] <robbiethe1st> I'm not. I've got a MSN account running through Pidgin
[07:31] <cdbs> Wished_M: you can use Exaile
[07:31] <gyyrog> Daskreech: thats what I think
[07:31] <maco> Fausto: what notification?
[07:31] <maco> foxjazz: larger than 4gb?
[07:31] <maco> Fausto: i suspect there's a plugin that lets you turn off join/part messages
[07:31] <gyyrog> what do I do?
[07:31] <robbiethe1st> But -never- will I use that crap product from MS
[07:31] <cdbs> Wished_M: no wait
[07:31] <v_v> Hello, i am using 9.04 , whe i compile thread programs the error what i get is .. thread.h: No such file or directory so plz tell me the steps
[07:32] <Wished_M> what is exaile ?
[07:32] <tsimpson> v_v: use pthreads.h
[07:32] <tim_> sardonyx, command not found?
[07:32] <tim_> sacarlson, command not found?
[07:33] <cdbs> Wished_M: use emesene
[07:33] <cdbs> Wished_M: emesene.org
[07:33] <Wished_M> what is emsene man ?
[07:33] <Wished_M> u can open cam via it ?
[07:34] <Chipzzz> tim_: this should help you out: http://forum.vuze.com/thread.jspa?messageID=228274
[07:34] <cdbs> Wished_M: I think so, go to emesene.org
[07:34] <tim_> Chipzzz, thanks
[07:34] <Chipzzz> :)
[07:34] <tsimpson> v_v: * pthread.h (and compile with -pthread)
[07:34] <Wished_M> where are people from in this channel
[07:35] <ruffy> can any1 help me why gEdit is not working on my xxxxxxxxxxxxubuntu
[07:35] <Wished_M> approx
[07:35] <n2diy> jack, you still here? I just tried to install adobe flash on chrome, and it won't, it thinks seamonkey is still running
[07:35] <SoftTimur> hello all, I want to install OpenOffice on my machine, while downloading the installation sets, I am not sure which Linux I have: Linux32-bit Intel RPM/Linux32-bit Intel DEB/Linux 64-bit x86-64  RPM/Linux 64-bit x86-64 DEB... does anyone know how to check that?
[07:35] <sacarlson> tim_: oh I guess it needs to be installed http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/get-build-deps.1.html  so maybe install ubuntu-dev-tools_0.30_all
[07:35] <maco> Fausto: other clients (that are actually specially made for irc) allow you to make those either hidden or dimmed out so that they're easy to ignore and just read chatter but can still be read if you're trying to figure out at what point someone disappeared
[07:35] <robbiethe1st> Soft: run "uname -a" in a terminal.
[07:35] <tsimpson> SoftTimur: OpenOffice comes pre-installed in Ubuntu
[07:35] <Chipzzz> ruffy: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gedit
[07:35] <ruffy> ty chipz
[07:36] <Chipzzz> :)
[07:36] <sacarlson> tim_:  it's just java so maybe there are other tools to install dependancies?
[07:36] <SoftTimur> tsimpson: I type openoffice to launch it?
[07:36] <robbiethe1st> soft: also, yea, you shouldn't need to install manually
[07:37] <robbiethe1st> Soft: Once it's installed, it should be in your start-menu
[07:37] <tsimpson> SoftTimur: it should be in your applications menu
[07:38] <ruffy> i dont know what im doing wrong sudo gedit/etc/samba/smb.conf does not work
[07:38] <SoftTimur> tsimpson: indeed, thank you
[07:38] <ruffy> i tried reisntalling gedit already
[07:38] <tsimpson> ruffy: you gksudo rather than sudo
[07:38] <tsimpson> *use
[07:38] <ruffy> thanks
[07:38] <tsimpson> and put a space after "gedit"
[07:39] <ruffy> awesome guys thanks alot
[07:40] <Chipzzz> ruffy: you need a space between gedit and /
[07:40] <inainu> hy
[07:41] <ruffy> chipzz thank i got it to work
[07:41] <Chipzzz> :0
[07:41] <Chipzzz> :)
[07:41] <sacarlson> tim_:  I thought so all that is need to install dependency is sudo apt-get build-dep vuze
[07:43] <tim_> sacarlson, ok thats chugging along now. I'll let you know if it works
[07:43] <psyklown> i did a clean install of 10.10. i had 10.04 previously and now my broadcom wireless doesnt work. any help?
[07:44] <kothaguy_Ubuntu1> hi frnds
[07:45] <elky> psyklown, are you able to plug in to an ethernet cable?
[07:45] <psyklown> elky yes
[07:45] <Chipzzz> psyklown: does the card show up in lspci?
[07:46] <elky> psyklown, ok then do that, and then go to System > Administration > Additional Drivers. When you get there, you want the STA driver.
[07:46] <ruffy> does anyone know whats the difference between sudo and gksudo command besides the obvious spelling
[07:46] <g0r33k> Hi everyone, is it possible to detach a screen session on an ssh computer and reattach it to my current computer (i.e. the computer I logged into ssh from)?
[07:46] <psyklown> elky yeah sta is installed and active.
[07:46] <tsimpson> !gksudo | ruffy
[07:47] <tsimpson> g0r33k: no
[07:47] <elky> psyklown, which particular broadcom is it?
[07:47] <ruffy> i see awesome help guys thnks alot
[07:47] <Chipzzz> ruffy: gksudo is for the gk desktop... the recommend it but I've not had a problem using them interchangeably
[07:47] <g0r33k> tsimpson: okay thanks
[07:47] <ohsix> screen -x 4 lyf
[07:48] <psyklown> elky Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[07:48] <sunil> ubottu:Thanx...helpfull
[07:48] <psyklown> elky i mean xubuntu, ubuntu, lubuntu .04 all work, but any of those 10.10 no go
[07:48] <n2diy> jack_, you still here? I just tried to install adobe flash on chrome, and it won't, it thinks seamonkey is still running
[07:50] <Chipzzz> psyklown: do you know which driver they were using in the previous versions & is it installed in your 10.10?
[07:50] <psyklown> chipzzz  yeah i used sta
[07:51] <Chipzzz> psyklown: does the card show up in lspci?
[07:51] <psyklown> chipzzz yep. Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[07:51] <Chipzzz> psyklown: but no module in lsmod?
[07:52] <ruffy> ive mounted a share folder to share with my windows vista, but what im trying to  do really is establish anetwork path shortcut between 2 OS how doi do that any1??
[07:52] <jimlovell777> I've been following guides for hours and can't figure this out... I'm using ntop as an rflow collector for dd-wrt on port 2055. Problem is, its not receiving data. ntop works to monitor traffic on my computer but not my whole network. Do I need to open port 2055 or is that automatic?
[07:53] <psyklown> chipzzz what do you mean? what i get when i do lsmod?
[07:54] <iflema> psyklown: its attempting to use the b43 driver now yeah?? remove the b43 driver and install the STA option, if you dont see it in additional drivers install bcmwl-kernel-source package and then try agin with the additional drivers...
[07:54] <Chipzzz> psyklown: yes, the driver module should show up in lsmod
[07:55] <psyklown> iflema i already have the sta option installed and active. like i did in .04 doesnt work. that is why im here. not sure why it isnt working. everything seems to be the same as it was in .04 its just not working for some reason.
[07:56] <magnetron> hi, often ssh to a shell server where i run irssi and tcsh in screen. how do i make tcsh update the screen hardstatus line with something useful? how can i make the remote screen session update my gnome-terminal window title?
[07:56] <Chipzzz> psyklown: is the sta module showing up in lsmod?
[07:56] <thauriswulfa> QUESTION: i m tryin' to play a game tremulous , but it hangs many time,everytime i have to restart my system. Is there anyway to getout of a game without restarting
[07:56] <iflema> psyklown: in te release notes for 10.10 theres an issue with 4312 adapters being prompted to install b43
[07:57] <a123456789> there
[07:57] <psyklown> chipzzz im not sure. i dont see anything referring to it in lsmod. is there a specific place to look in lsmod?
[07:57] <Chipzzz> iflema: he could blacklist the module
[07:57] <mycosys>  thauriswulfatry ctrl-alt-f1 to get a terminal
[07:57] <mycosys> or ssh in
[07:57] <ryansmith> I just bought a Giada N3 cube and have configured everything except for the audio, which seems not to work. The only thing I get to output is HDMI in stereo, but 5.1 sound doesn't seem to work at all. Does anyone know how to enable this?
[07:57] <Gambit-> anyone here build livecd's from scratch?
[07:57] <Chipzzz> psyklown: lsmod | grep sta
[07:58] <psyklown> iflema so dont use sta and use the other b43 option? seems like i tried that also and it failed
[07:58] <iflema> Chipzzz: sta = wl  b43 = b43 ssb
[07:59] <iflema> psyklown: no, prompted for the b43 instead of STA... your case??
[07:59] <tim_> sacarlson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/569528/
[07:59] <psyklown> iflema it preinstalled sta when i installed ubuntu do i use the other option?
[08:00] <psyklown> chipzzz when i do that nothing comes up if i put that in commandline exactly as you typed it
[08:00] <iflema> psyklown: whats the output of   lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4
[08:01] <psyklown> iflema Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)
[08:01] <Chipzzz> psyklown: it looks like you're using the b43 module, which iflema says is ng...
[08:01] <iflema> psyklown: 1min
[08:02] <iflema> psyklown: STA should be the one...
[08:03] <psyklown> iflema lol yeah i know right. it worked in 10.04 just like i have it now. i have no idea whats goin on.
[08:03] <iflema> psyklown: wth atleast support for b/g
[08:04] <psyklown> iflema i have came with this before to irc and no one was able to figure it out. i thought i might give it another go and it seems to still do the same thing.
[08:04] <Chipzzz> psyklown: try typing dmesg | grep b43
[08:05] <iflema> psyklown: check to see if b43 is blacklisted... have you been doing much in the way of manual fixing??
[08:05] <psyklown> iflema no.
[08:05] <psyklown> chipzzz i get nothing
[08:06] <Chipzzz> psyklown: how about dmesg | grep sta ?
[08:06] <psyklown> iflema i mean... im not sure how to check if its black listed and no i have done no manual fixing
[08:06] <iflema> psyklown: hangon i cant remember where the blacklist file is :)\
[08:07] <psyklown> chipzzz yes i get a chuck of text with that
[08:07] <iflema> psyklown: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist   ??
[08:08] <Chipzzz> psyklown: so you probably are using the sta module... what does lshw have to say about your network?
[08:08] <psyklown> iflema alright im in modprobe.d what exactly should i do?
[08:10] <psyklown> chipzzz i get a large chunk of text with that.
[08:11] <Chipzzz> psyklown: the interesting part is the network stuff... type "lshw | less" so that you can scroll through it with your arrow keys
[08:12] <iflema> psyklown ive no gui and no ubuntu =/ atm
[08:13] <psyklown> chipzzz yeah what exactly should i paste from the *-network part?
[08:14] <sacarlson> tim_ I notice one more thing that they now have a 64bit version of vuze.  maybe you downloaded the 64bit?
[08:15] <sacarlson> tim_:  note the two downloads here http://azureus.sourceforge.net/download.php  I wonder what you picked?
[08:15] <Chipzzz> psyklown: just check that there are a dozen or so lines and the driver is the sta
[08:17] <sacarlson> tim_:  what is the name of the download package you downloaded?
[08:17] <thauriswulfa> does anybody know of a dock for xubuntu
[08:17] <Chipzzz> psyklown: (also, check and make sure it 'looks right'... wireless interface, capabilities, etc...)
[08:18] <ruan> dock?
[08:18] <psyklown> chipzzz well one part says drver=wl0 is that it?
[08:19] <psyklown> chipzzz is it okay to just post a public dropbox link of a screenshot?
[08:19] <thauriswulfa> ruan:yeah
[08:19] <Chipzzz> psyklown: good idea
[08:19] <tim_> sacarlson, Vuze_Installer.tar.bz2
[08:19] <tim_> Should I give the other file a try?
[08:20] <psyklown> chipzzz alright it will only take me a second to dl and install dropbox. my connection is pretty fast
[08:20] <Chipzzz> psyklown: no hurry... I'll be here
[08:20] <ryansmith> does anyone know where I can find log files for ALSA and PulseAudio?
[08:20] <ryansmith> googling produces no results for me
[08:20] <tim_> sacarlson, no difference
[08:22] <iflema> psyklown: in the bug report for the release notes concerning your model of wifi, one individual said he reinstalled and did not select to update during install and his wifi worked? did you select to update during the install?
[08:22] <tim_> sacarlson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/569533/
[08:23] <iflema> psyklown: he reinstalled ubnutu i mean ^^
[08:23] <psyklown> iflema yes, but i have done it without before also. i had thought of that prior
[08:23] <iflema> psyklown: goodone
[08:23] <iflema> psyklown: or bad :\
[08:24] <psyklown> iflema what?
[08:24] <Chipzzz> psyklown: This might be the solution:
[08:24] <Chipzzz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1620585
[08:25] <sacarlson> tim_: that's a total different name then I see here http://sourceforge.net/projects/azureus/files/vuze/Vuze_4602/Vuze_4602_linux.tar.bz2/download  so did you try this one? Vuze_4602_linux.tar.bz2
[08:25] <psyklown> chipzzz i guess i should try that
[08:25] <Chipzzz> psyklown: it sounds like it should work in this instance
[08:26] <psyklown> chipzzz so just go to synaptic remove that installer and install the one he suggested int he same session?
[08:26] <JoeCoolLinux> Why does only one hard drive show in my computer?
[08:26] <ruan> JoeCoolLinux: you need to mount the rest
[08:27] <Chipzzz> psyklown: yes... reinstall ipphy if it is already installed
[08:27] <JoeCoolLinux> They're not available to be mounted
[08:27] <ruan> JoeCoolLinux: did you get the right names to mount them?
[08:27] <psyklown> chipzzz i do not have that firmware-b43-installer installed
[08:27] <ruan> JoeCoolLinux: from sudo fdisk -l
[08:27] <JoeCoolLinux> Not on disk manager
[08:27] <tim_> sacarlson, no, i'll try that
[08:27] <psyklown> chipzzz should i just go ahead and install that b43-lpphy-installer anyway?
[08:28] <JoeCoolLinux> That command shows one disk, ruan
[08:28] <JoeCoolLinux> Is it possible I need drivers for my SATA III controller?
[08:28] <Chipzzz> psyklown: it looks like that should do it
[08:29] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: how many disks are in your system in total ?
[08:29] <psyklown> chipzzz alright should i disable my sta driver?
[08:29] <JoeCoolLinux> Three.  2 1TBs, one 750 which has NTFS errors I'm on a LiveCD to fix
[08:29] <JoeCoolLinux> 1 of the 1TB is uninitialized.  The other is the Win boot disk
[08:29] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: can you please pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" please.
[08:30] <JoeCoolLinux> http://pastebin.com/3mwNjnUA
[08:30] <Chipzzz> psyklown: no, keep that one
[08:31] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: ok, does the 3rd (second 1TB disk) hang off a different controller than the other two ?
[08:31] <bullgard> The metapackage ubuntu-desktop depends on the package smbclient. How can I modify the metapackage ubuntu-desktop so that it no longer depends on smbclient?
[08:31] <ikonia> bullgard: you can't
[08:31] <JoeCoolLinux> Probably does.  I think my system has a couple sata 3Gb and a couple 2Gbs
[08:31] <bullgard> ikonia: I take notice.
[08:31] <extra11> ubuntu 10.10 is nice :)
[08:31] <psyklown> chipzzz alrighty. i just installed it. guess ill restart and come back here. cya in a bit
[08:31] <Chipzzz> gl
[08:32] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: 2 couples = 4 disks, you just said it had 3 disks
[08:32] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: I need you to be exact
[08:32] <JoeCoolLinux> Couple SATA ports, as in like 50
[08:32] <JoeCoolLinux> I only have three disks
[08:32] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: ok, so I'll ask again, do all disks hang off the same controller, or different controllers ?
[08:32] <Yerushalmi> Hey, does anyone know what package is responsible for creating the Unity desktop in Ubuntu Netbook Edition, 10.04? It apparently went kablooie on me and I need to reinstall it
[08:33] <JoeCoolLinux> I'm thinking it has to be two different controllers
[08:33] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: not "has to be" open the box and look if you don't know
[08:33] <JoeCoolLinux> I'm not going to download the circuit diagram
[08:34] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: you don't need to download the circuit design, just open the box and look if it is one controller or two connecting your disks
[08:34] <JoeCoolLinux> There were vertical plugs and horizontal plugs
[08:34] <ruan> !ide > ruan
[08:34] <bloodboy> i don't understand the decision to make the GUI of Ubuntu 11.04 onwards to Unity
[08:34] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: that doesn't mean anything, I need to know
[08:34] <bloodboy> Unity sucks and is meant for netbooks
[08:34] <ikonia> bloodboy: off topic here, try #ubuntu+1
[08:34] <JoeCoolLinux> boot disk is in the plane with the mobo and the other disks are vertical
[08:34] <psyklown> chipzzz sadface :(
[08:35] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: ok, so the boot disks, which are they (sizes)
[08:35] <Chipzzz> :((
[08:35] <JoeCoolLinux> One boot disk, 1TB
[08:35] <Chipzzz> double sadface!
[08:35] <Chipzzz> what happened?
[08:35] <ikonia> Chipzzz: ok, we get it, please stop
[08:35] <JoeCoolLinux> 1 new uninitialized, 1TB.  1 corrupted NTFS, 750
[08:35] <psyklown> chipzzz lol nothing
[08:35] <psyklown> chipzzz just showed up like it always does only with no wireless
[08:35] <JoeCoolLinux> I want to copy the corrupted NTFS one to the uninitialized 1TB
[08:36] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: ok, so that makes sense, Linux can see your local on board disk controller, but not your additional controller
[08:36] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: that should be straight forward enough
[08:37] <Chipzzz> Psyklown: do you have firmware-b43-lpphy-installer installed?
[08:37] <psyklown> chipzzz yep
[08:38] <sacarlson> tim_: just tested that link to Vuze_4602_linux.tar.bz2 here on my ubuntu 10.04 32bit desktop , just uncompressed and came up fine with cd to dir and ./vuze
[08:38] <psyklown> chipzzz installed it right before i restarted. only thing was i didnt have that original "bf3-firmware" installed like the fore mentioned guy did.
[08:38] <tim_> sacarlson, ok I'm testing now
[08:39] <Chipzzz> psyklown: how old is the broadcomm?
[08:39] <psyklown> chipzzz lol idk.
[08:39] <JoeCoolLinux> What would I use for disk imaging on the LiveCD?
[08:40] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: it really depends what your end goal is
[08:40] <tim_> sacarlson, perfext!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:40] <psyklown> chipzzz that post you sent before... he had b43-firmware installed. maybe try installing that and uninstalling that lpphy one?
[08:40] <JoeCoolLinux> I want a 1:1 disk image of the corrupted drive to the new uninitialized drive
[08:41] <sacarlson> tim_ you must have been trying to run the 64bit version
[08:41] <tim_> thank you times infinity
[08:41] <Chipzzz> psyklown: maybe it wants the latest driver, as suggested in the 4th post...
[08:41] <JoeCoolLinux> So I can run chkdisk on the new 1TB
[08:41] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: what's stopping you running it on the existing disk ?
[08:41] <Chipzzz> psyklown (hybrid-portsrc_x86-32_v<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz)
[08:41] <JoeCoolLinux> It was deleting some files and I want the option of recovery
[08:41] <psyklown> chipzzz but then how was 10.04 working with something older than tha?
[08:42] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: ok but what's stopping that from happening now ?
[08:42] <JoeCoolLinux> And it's no big deal to copy it since I was backing it up onto the new drive anyway
[08:42] <JoeCoolLinux> Stopping what from happening, ikonia?
[08:42] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: stopping you from running chkdsk on it now
[08:42] <JoeCoolLinux> chdisk was going to delete some files and I'm not comfortable with that
[08:42] <Chipzzz> psyklown: *shrugs* dunno...
[08:43] <JoeCoolLinux> I was just going to copy the drive to the new drive anyway, might as well do it this way and be safe.
[08:44] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: normally I'd suggest doing this by mounting the disks and copying the data across that way, a disk "image" in my view isn't good as the two drives are different sizes/layouts
[08:44] <psyklown> chipzzz gonna try somethin brb
[08:44] <Chipzzz> gl
[08:44] <JoeCoolLinux> Well, how should I do it, ikonia?
[08:44] <Yerushalmi> Does anyone know what package is responsible for creating the Unity desktop in Ubuntu Netbook Edition, 10.04? It apparently went kablooie on me and I need to reinstall it
[08:45] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: if you can, mount the two disks, copy the data, use the windows install cd to put the mbr back on the new disk
[08:45] <janhouse> Can anyone suggest dock that keeps icons on different workspaces separated?
[08:45] <JoeCoolLinux> Corrupted NTFS, ikonia
[08:45] <JoeCoolLinux> Can't mount
[08:46] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: then I wouldn't suggest doing it
[08:46] <JoeCoolLinux> Doing what?
[08:46] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: cloning the disk under linux
[08:46] <JoeCoolLinux> Why not?
[08:46] <tim_> sacarlson, now how do I get this into my programs list?
[08:46] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: because the two disks are different sizes and geometries
[08:47] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: therefore a block level copy is not something I'd suggest
[08:47] <JoeCoolLinux> Then what are my options?
[08:47] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: the guys in ##windows may have tools to assist or advise you, there may also be 3rd party tools that I'm not aware of
[08:47] <JoeCoolLinux> I was just in there and they said to do a disk clone and I agreed with them
[08:48] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: ok, but Linux will do a block level disk clone, and I wouldn't advise that as your disks are different sizes and geom's
[08:48] <robbiethe1st> You can try cloning things one partition at a time, then resize the partition with gparted
[08:48] <JoeCoolLinux> How do I do a partition clone, then?
[08:48] <sacarlson> tim_: just right click on Applications pick a place and add
[08:49] <robbiethe1st> so make a partition the same size as your old partition, dd the data from the old to the new.. what I'd do.
[08:49] <popey> JoeCoolLinux: gparted has a nice "copy/paste" feature that many peopld don't know about
[08:49] <JoeCoolLinux> dd isn't block-level?
[08:49] <ikonia> I disagree with that as the partition may be the same size but the blocks will be different as the disk is different sizes
[08:49] <robbiethe1st> Yes, it is
[08:49] <popey> JoeCoolLinux: you literally select the partition to copy, press copy, highlight the disk to copy to and click paste
[08:49] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: dd is block level
[08:49] <tim_> sacarlson, what is the path?
[08:49] <popey> JoeCoolLinux: the gparted copy/paste copes with disks of different sizes :)
[08:49] <tim_> its in home/.vuze
[08:50] <sacarlson> tim_: depends on where you put it when you uncompressed it
[08:50] <sacarlson> tim_: for me it's presently at: /home/sacarlson/Downloads/vuze/vuze
[08:51] <tim_> sacarlson, yep its the same
[08:51] <tim_> sacarlson, thanks
[08:52] <ikonia> popey: when gparted copies the partition does it do it at a block level or a file system level ?
[08:52] <popey> ikonia: it doesnt do dd if that's what you're asking :)
[08:52] <JoeCoolLinux> popey, it says the destination is smaller than the source
[08:52] <JoeCoolLinux> When it has another 300 some gigs
[08:52] <gaelfx> I'm having a problem with pretty sketchy playback in SMPlayer using vdpau. I have desktop effects all disabled, but it's still pretty jerky/laggy
[08:52] <popey> JoeCoolLinux: :( It worked last time I used it :(
[08:52] <ikonia> popey: not quite, just curious if it did it at a block level or file system
[08:52] <popey> I dont know, it just seemed magic
[08:53] <ikonia> ha
[08:53] <ikonia> popey: just reading the doc on it ( I always thougth it was file system level) and it's a bit unclear
[08:53] <popey> yeah, I'm not sure how it works
[08:54] <popey> i think it uses some nt cli util to actually do the copy
[08:54] <tim_> sacarlson, thanks again
[08:54] <popey> s/nt/ntfs/
[08:54] <ikonia> if it's block level JoeCoolLinux is sorted, if it's file system (which is what I thought) it's not going to work
[08:55] <JoeCoolLinux> I either need an NTFS library or something, it says the destination is smaller than the source
[08:55] <Yerushalmi> Does anyone know what package is responsible for creating the Unity-style desktop in Ubuntu Netbook Edition, 10.04? It apparently went kablooie on me and I need to reinstall it
[08:55] <popey> sorry if my suggestion wasnt helpful :S
[08:55] <ikonia> popey: if it does it at a block level, it's super helpful
[08:55] <JoeCoolLinux> Yerushalmi, wasn't it just unity-desktop?
[08:56] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: try reinstalling unity-desktop
[08:56] <gaelfx> haha
[08:56] <sacarlson> tim_: no problem have fun
[08:57] <mickster04> hey guys. I installed 10.10 64bit on a pc with windows 7 on it. I only ever get to some kind of post-grub console. sumat about it not finding the installation? is it likely to be the disk image or something in the install that breaks that
[08:57] <psyklown> chipzzz im pretty confident that when dante entered the inferno, that broadcom was somewhere within the 9th level of hell
[08:58] <ikonia> psyklown: can we keep the silly stuff out of the channel please.
[08:58] <JoeCoolLinux> I think it might be file system level
[08:58] <Chipzzz> psyklown: :))) big happy face! look what I found: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[08:58] <JoeCoolLinux> Because it can't open the NTFS because it's corrupted
[08:58] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: I thought it was too, but that doesn't mean I'm right
[08:58] <psyklown> ikonia trust me. there is nothing silly about broadcom
[08:59] <ikonia> psyklown: please, enough
[08:59] <Guest70310> can anybody tell me hot to install opera by source please
[09:00] <JoeCoolLinux> Isn't Opera closed-source?
[09:00] <psyklown> ikonia do you know how to solve the broadcom problem?
[09:00] <ikonia> psyklown: not been following the issue
[09:00] <psyklown> ikonia alrighty
[09:00] <JoeCoolLinux> Alright, ikonia, how do I do a block-level copy to the new drive?
[09:00] <Guest70310> nop why did you think that
[09:01] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: I'd really advise against it
[09:01] <JoeCoolLinux> You just said it was the way to go in gparted
[09:02] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: no I didn't,
[09:02] <hyperzap> simple question: In bash, if I launch something (for example telnet) how do I then escape telnet and go back to bash??? (im talkin terminal, ubuntu)
[09:02] <JoeCoolLinux> ikonia 02/20/2011 08:54:26 AM
[09:02] <JoeCoolLinux> if it's block level JoeCoolLinux is sorte
[09:03] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: yes, as gparted can deal with the different disk sizes as popey suggested
[09:03] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: as it appears to be file system rather than block level, it's not an option
[09:03] <gaelfx> hyperzap: 'exit' or 'quit' or 'ctrl+c'
[09:03] <Yerushalmi> JoeCoolLinux, gaelfx : I don't see "unity-desktop" on my list of installed packages
[09:03] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: check in Synaptic Package Manager
[09:03] <hyperzap> gaelfx: Thanks, I always have the issue where It goes into a process and I have to close terminal and fire up again to get it to accept bash commands again
[09:04] <gaelfx> hyperzap: not a problem
[09:04] <hyperzap> gaelfx: 'quit' doesnt work
[09:04] <psyklown> chipzzz so am i going to have to go with ndiswrapper?
[09:04] <gaelfx> hyperzap: yeah, I can't remember all of the right ways to do things, so I just list as many as possible til one sticks
[09:05] <gaelfx> kinda like cooking pasta I guess
[09:05] <hyperzap> lol ok, thanks anyway. Its hard getting into linux but i want to do it. Everyone I know tells me to get rid of gnome
[09:06] <Chipzzz> psyclown: I would back up and start from the beginning on that page...
[09:06] <JoeCoolLinux> ikonia, so what are my options?  Can I not do a block level anyway and then worry about resizing it?
[09:06] <JoeCoolLinux> What's the big deal
[09:07] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: because block level will depend on the partition table, which is based of the disk layout of the old disk
[09:07] <gaelfx> hyperzap: yeah, some people prefer other desktop managers, but I've never had a big problem with Gnome. KDE is pretty, but it just doesn't jive with me
[09:07] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: there are 3rd party tools (something like norton ghost ?) that maybe able to do it better
[09:07] <JoeCoolLinux> Spinright?
[09:07] <JoeCoolLinux> How about if I made like an ISO image of it on the new drive?
[09:07] <ikonia> no idea, the guys in ##windows may know the tools better
[09:08] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx: It's not there.
[09:08] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: what would you do with it then ?
[09:08] <Venub> just completed ubuntu 10.04 LTS installation and while updating my PC was powered of accidently, now i get at the starting a menu to choose the user and nothing responds. Tried the recovery mode and got nothing. Is there another way to recover the system ?
[09:08] <JoeCoolLinux> I don't know\
[09:08] <ikonia> ok, so pointless
[09:08] <hyperzap> gaelfx: yea im sticking to gnome. The issue for me ATM is if I download some sample c++ code and compile, it never compiles correctly. You would think it would Its always whininh bout something. Normally functions in default libraries
[09:08] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: then do a search just for unity
[09:09] <gaelfx> hyperzap: it's been too long since I've done any coding, I can't really help with that :P
[09:09] <JoeCoolLinux> Am I risking anything by just running the chdisk on the drive itself?/
[09:09] <psyklown> chipzzz not sure what you mean. it just shows how to identify your card at the top of the page. then on down it says to install bcmwl-kernel-source which i already have installed
[09:09] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: I don't know, ask the guys in ##windows
[09:09] <Yerushalmi> gaelfx: That's what I did. The only one that comes up is gnome-themes-extras, which isn't installed.
[09:09] <JoeCoolLinux> They don't know
[09:10] <hyperzap> too much coding is bad for the mind, but too little is bad for the spirit :D
[09:10] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: neither do we, this is Ubuntu, not Windows support, the guys in ##windows are more experienced and best placed to answer
[09:10] <hyperzap> THIS IS WHAT I DO: http://xkcd.com/356/
[09:11] <hyperzap> valentines day: http://xkcd.com/316/
[09:11] <JoeCoolLinux> http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz348/CarefullyWovenPhotography/Okay.png
[09:11] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: hang on a sec
[09:11] <ikonia> hyperzap: please keep that stuff out of the channel
[09:11] <hyperzap> sorry
[09:11] <ikonia> hyperzap: this channel is for ubuntu support discussion only, not coding chat, silly pictures, etc
[09:12] <ikonia> JoeCoolLinux: same to you, don't need pictures please
[09:12] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: you said you're using 10.04?
[09:12] <openbees> heloo beeses of openworld
[09:12] <Chipzzz> psyklown: *groans* I guess you're right... on to the ndis wrapper section
[09:13] <Venub> just completed ubuntu 10.04 LTS installation and while updating my PC was powered of accidently, now i get at the starting a menu to choose the user and nothing responds. Tried the recovery mode and got nothing. Is there another way to recover the system ?
[09:13] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: you might also search for "Desktop" and see if anything there looks promising
[09:13] <psyklown> chipzzz lol that really sucks because i have no idea how to use ndiswrapper
[09:13] <overclucker> hyperzap: think i've been reading too much manga, i didn't get those jokes(turns out i was read right to left . . .)
[09:15] <Chipzzz> psyklown: well... the instructions look pretty thorough... you'll probably know before long :)
[09:16] <JoeCoolLinux> You're saying I can't do a bitwise image?
[09:16] <dxy> is there ubuntu for AMD64 i want to install it in my msi wind u210
[09:16] <Guest70310> for opera which do i pick to download tar.bz2 or tar.gz
[09:16] <Cradam> hi i installed ubuntu using unetbootin and it has only put 4 files onto my usb none of them bigger than 1KB
[09:16] <nautilus_bug> hello
[09:16] <vickyandro|2> pls someone help to recover my ubuntu. I install windows after ubuntu
[09:17] <openbees> psyklown: use this (link http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/NdisWrapper_The_Ultimate_Guide)
[09:17] <psycho_oreos> dxy, you just get the x86-64 version, that'll give you 64bit
[09:17] <Guest70310> for opera which do i pick to download tar.bz2 or tar.gz
[09:17] <psycho_oreos> !grub2| vickyandro|2
[09:17] <dxy> alright
[09:17] <dxy> psycho_oreos: does it support amd?
[09:17] <psyklown> chipzzz lol yeah looks like ill have my hands full for while. atleast if i get this down ill be able to sail through the upgrades
[09:17] <psycho_oreos> dxy, it should for most parts yes
[09:18] <gaelfx> dxy: yes, it's supports AMD
[09:18] <psyklown> openbees thanks
[09:18] <overclucker> !64 | dxy
[09:18] <Cradam> vickyandro|2, u have to run gparted off of a ubuntu live cd, if the linux install is still there then u have to run a grub config under a live cd
[09:18] <psyklown> chipzzz appreciate the help. ill let you know if it works. assuming i dont get frustrated and quit.
[09:18] <nautilus_bug> After I mount an image using "sudo mount -t udf -o loop SOME.iso /media/SOMEFOLDER"  I unmout using "sudo umount /media/SOMEFOLDER" but Nautilus keeps showing the mounted image BUT IT'S NOT
[09:18] <nautilus_bug> help
[09:18] <Guest70310> for opera which do i pick to download tar.bz2 or tar.gz
[09:18] <overclucker> I just installed x86_64 a week ago to make use of my 8G of ram
[09:19] <Chipzzz> openbees: great article! thanks
[09:19] <Cradam> Guest70310, either
[09:19] <overclucker> it's been wonderful
[09:19] <nautilus_bug> Error mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0
[09:19] <nautilus_bug> what does this mean
[09:19] <Guest70310> cradam can you show me how to install it
[09:19] <gaelfx> Yerushalmi: ah, I see. Unity wasn't used until 10.10, so you want to find the package called "ubuntu-netbook-remix" I think
[09:19] <Chipzzz> psyklown: thank you... I'm rooting for you :)
[09:19] <nautilus_bug> After I mount an image using "sudo mount -t udf -o loop SOME.iso /media/SOMEFOLDER"  I unmout using "sudo umount /media/SOMEFOLDER" but Nautilus keeps showing the mounted image BUT IT'S NOT >>> Error mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0
[09:19] <Cradam> no i can not but there should be something easier in either synaptic package manager or in ubuntu software centre
[09:20] <overclucker> nautilus_bug: try -t iso9660
[09:20] <nautilus_bug> overclucker: it's a DVD image
[09:20] <dxy> overclucker: i downloaded the ubuntu-10.10-netbook-i386.iso is this ok?
[09:20] <nautilus_bug> overclucker: the problem is nautilus that keeps showing the unmounted image. bug?
[09:21] <Venub> netbook is for netbooks make sure you aren't using it with desktop
[09:21] <overclucker> dxy: netbooks are all 32bit
[09:21] <Cradam> Venub, u can easily use netbook edition with a desktop
[09:21] <mickster04> overclucker: well 32 work son 64bit so it's safe
[09:21] <openbees> guest70310: i not getting any such option during downloading , just download from opera official site it will autometicaly detect ur system ...and will give u path for .deb package
[09:22] <dxy> overclucker: thanks
[09:22] <Guest70310> openbees can you just send it to me
[09:22] <nautilus_bug> ^ ^
[09:23] <Venub> Cradam, i the first time made this (noobie). I didn't realize it but why someone need a netbook edition on a desktop ? (and still noobie)
[09:23] <gaelfx> guess he's out to lunch
[09:24] <Cradam> they wouldnt need it but its good for touchscreen all in one desktops
[09:24] <openbees> Guest70310:choose your flavor and download    from this link http://www.opera.com/browser/download/
[09:24] <gaelfx> Venub: they don't need it, but I imagine it's pretty handy for testing how an app might work on a netbook
[09:25] <openbees> is netbook is usefull for laptops??
[09:25] <psyklown> chipzzz on sourceforge i see all the way up to 4311 but no 4312 look elsewhere?
[09:26] <Guest70310> i aint getting the debian file its just tar.bz2 and and tar.gz
[09:26] <gaelfx> Guest70310: it shouldn't make a difference which one of those you get
[09:27] <Guest70310> how do i install it by source
[09:28] <gaelfx> there should be a readme in there once you decompress the file
[09:28] <openbees> guest70310:  thats the problem with tar.bz2 and tar.gz  ....coz only diffrence in them is compressing methonds of file
[09:28] <openbees> guest70310: on that link i am redirected to download .def file. it works fine for me
[09:29] <gaelfx> but my incilination is to say, intending no offense towards you, that perhaps you don't want to build it from source if you're not sure which file to get between a gz and bz2
[09:29] <DexterLB> hello. I'm trying to tunnel my X through ssh into windoze with putty. I've done all the needed settings but still I get Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0
[09:29] <DexterLB> any ideas?
[09:30] <openbees> gaelfx: exactely ...thats why i am forcing him/her to download .deb file
[09:30] <ikonia> DexterLB: you can't do that, Windows doesn't have an X11 display engine
[09:30] <gaelfx> meh, you can't make choices for people, you can only give them sugggestions
[09:30] <ikonia> DexterLB: and the OS is called "Windows"
[09:31] <DexterLB> ikonia: hmmmmm I've seen it done..
[09:31] <ikonia> DexterLB: yes, you need an X11 server on your windows machine
[09:31] <magnetron> ikonia: there's xming which is a X11R6 implementation for windows
[09:31] <openbees> guest70310: on my given link try with default package on option of package format
[09:31] <ikonia> magnetron: I'm aware there are ones, but unless he's installed one and set it up, it's not going to work
[09:31] <sss> I installed LAMP. How do I host PHP pages?
[09:31] <DexterLB> ikonia: ah. so I need an X server on both sides?
[09:31] <magnetron> ikonia: yeah, i didn't follow the conversation
[09:32] <ikonia> sss: did you read the documentation I gave you
[09:32] <ikonia> DexterLB: correct
[09:32] <mickster04> sss: read the manual thru
[09:32] <ikonia> magnetron: not a problem
[09:32] <sss> okinia, the Sever Guide?
[09:32] <openbees> sss: placed ur pages on /var/www
[09:32] <ikonia> sss: yes, the one you've been asked to read 3 times
[09:32] <Guest70310> nop sorry that doesnt work either
[09:33] <openbees> sss: simply place ur pages on /var/www an type on browser /localhost/filename
[09:33] <magnetron> hi, I often ssh to a shell server where i run irssi and tcsh in screen. how do i make tcsh update the screen hardstatus line with something useful? how can i make the remote screen session update my gnome-terminal window title?
[09:34] <sss> openbees, I doesn't process the PHP, it just gives the file as is for download
[09:34] <openbees> guest70310: then either you are kidding or its matter of bug on opera official site
[09:34] <ikonia> magnetron: I think that's done within irssi