[08:17] <archangel_> how can I monitor my cpu?
[08:17] <obf213> htop shows both my cores going to 100percent when encoding.....on a 2ghz duo.....
[08:17] <abattoir> jmichaelx: the same unable to uninstall, but unable to install thing?
[08:17] <obf213> sudo apt-get install htop
[08:17] <obf213> its console but its good
[08:17] <CyberCod> another question, a non-important one, but a nagging thing
[08:17] <imbrandon_> archangel_: many ways , one is run "top" from konsole
[08:17] <archangel_> k
[08:18] <DaSkreech> archangel_: Or Ctrl+Esc
[08:18] <CyberCod> upon boot, and its doing its startup list thing  "drivers......   [ok] " thing
[08:18] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i can't seem to uninstall the driver, and the commmands 'ndiswrapper' and 'ndisgtk' are no longer recognized, even though they are installed
[08:18] <obf213> i have a nagging feeling that windows is much mor efficient with a dual core cpu
[08:19] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok, time for manual removal...
[08:19] <imbrandon_> obf213: not really, if nothing else is useing the cpu why not let the encoder ;) you can always renice it
[08:19] <CyberCod> it gets down to file system, and then leaves the nice skinned screen, and continues booting up in a non-skinned terminal visual mode.
[08:19] <CyberCod> its not a big deal, but its annoying
[08:19] <abattoir> jmichaelx: remove ndiswrapper-common, ndiswrapper-source, ndiswrapper-utils, ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[08:19] <imbrandon_> CyberCod: file a bug
[08:20] <jmichaelx> abattoir: brb
[08:20] <obf213> ok. i just never thought my cpu's went to 100percent in linux but ill take your word onit
[08:20] <abattoir> jmichaelx: and ndisgtk, if you have that installed
[08:20] <CyberCod> fair nuff
[08:20] <CyberCod> thanx
[08:20] <rr72> obf213~ mine goes to 99% but i take that as 100
[08:20] <DaSkreech> obf213: Mine are nearly always used all the time
[08:20] <abattoir> jmichaelx: also, you might not have ndis...-source or ndis...-utils-1.1 installed, but check
[08:20] <jmichaelx> abattoir: sudo: remove: command not found
[08:20] <rr72> since my graph turns red
[08:20] <archangel_> where do you look for that? what colum?
[08:21] <abattoir> jmichaelx: 'sudo apt-get remove ndiswrapper-utils' for eg.
[08:21] <jmichaelx> ahhh
[08:22] <rr72> obf213~ that rox ty for the suggggestion
[08:23] <jmichaelx> abattoir: ok, all unintalled
[08:23] <obf213> np
[08:24] <abattoir> jmichaelx: see if you have an ndiswrapper folder in /etc
[08:24] <archangel_> ok folks
[08:24] <archangel_> have a good one
[08:24] <archangel_> going to the beach tomorrow
[08:24] <archangel_> need some shut eye
[08:24] <jmichaelx> abattoir: yes, i do
[08:24] <archangel_> thanx for the lessons
[08:24] <archangel_> and help
[08:25] <abattoir> jmichaelx: see what it contains.. or it might be from the cache, reload to make sure
[08:26] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i reloaded. it contains the folder bcmwl5
[08:26] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok remove the ndiswrapper folder
[08:27] <jmichaelx> abattoir: sudo apt-get remove /etc/ndiswrapper?
[08:28] <abattoir> jmichaelx: nope, 'sudo rm -rf /etc/ndiswrapper'
[08:28] <abattoir> jmichaelx: apt-get is for removing binary packages, like ndiswrapper-utils
[08:28] <jmichaelx> ok
[08:28] <abattoir> *or rather the 'apt-get' command above
[08:28] <abattoir> whereas the rm command removes files(and in this case folders)
[08:29] <jmichaelx> abattoir: ok, removed
[08:29] <abattoir> jmichaelx: check now for /sbin/loadndisdriver
[08:29] <abattoir> and /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper
[08:30] <abattoir> also, /sbin/loadndisdriver-1.8 and /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.8
[08:30] <jmichaelx> abattoir: neither of those exist
[08:31] <abattoir> ok, good, reinstall the ndiswrapper packages
[08:31] <abattoir> namely 'ndiswrapper-utils'(which should get ndiswrapper-utils-1.8)
[08:31] <abattoir> 'ndiswrapper-common'...
[08:31] <jmichaelx> abattoir: should i use aptitude, or is it ok if i just use automatix?
[08:32] <abattoir> automatix does package installations too?
[08:32] <wolfmanz> abattoir is there a way to remove the multiple desktop as in have 0
[08:32] <abattoir> you can use aptitude/apt-get/adept/synaptic
[08:32] <obf213> yeah thats wht i need to use automatix
[08:32] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i believe so
[08:32] <abattoir> wolfmanz: you must have 1 :P
[08:32] <abattoir> wolfmanz: rt.click->configure desktop
[08:33] <wolfmanz> abattoir ya i know where it is just wondering if i could shut it right off
[08:33] <abattoir> wolfmanz: you should see 'Multiple Desktops'
[08:35] <wolfmanz> abattior i got it i rmoved the panel now thats one less thing to look at
[08:35] <jmichaelx> abattoir: E: Invalid operation ndiswrapper-common
[08:35] <abattoir> jmichaelx: that's all? any more info?
[08:35] <jmichaelx> abattoir: nope
[08:36] <abattoir> jmichaelx: :P 'sudo apt-get *install* ndiswrapper-common'
[08:37] <jmichaelx> E: Couldn't find package ndiswrapper-common
[08:37] <abattoir> !info ndiswrapper-common
[08:37] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper-common does not exist in dapper
[08:37] <abattoir> !info ndiswrapper-common edgy
[08:37] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-common: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.18-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 80 kB
[08:37] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ugh, sorry.. leave that packagee then
[08:38] <jmichaelx> abattoir: do i need to add an edgy repo?
[08:38] <abattoir> jmichaelx: install ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[08:38] <abattoir> jmichaelx: NO
[08:38] <jmichaelx> ok
[08:38] <abattoir> jmichaelx: i was using an edgy system to look at the package contents... apparently there has been a change in ndiswrapper's packaging
[08:39] <jmichaelx> E: Couldn't find package ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[08:39] <Healot> !info ndiswrapper
[08:39] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in dapper
[08:39] <jmichaelx> hmmm
[08:40] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i might just use automatix, brb
[08:40] <abattoir> !info ndiswrapper-utils
[08:40] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.8-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 136 kB
[08:40] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ^^^^^^
[08:41] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i did successfully install ndiswrapper-utils
[08:41] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok, now try '-l' see if your driver is listed...
[08:41] <abattoir> it shouldnt be
[08:42] <jmichaelx> abattoir: ndiswrapper -l?
[08:42] <abattoir> yes
[08:43] <jmichaelx> No drivers installed
[08:43] <abattoir> ok, now try installing it
[08:45] <jmichaelx> abattoir: ok, done
[08:46] <abattoir> jmichaelx: you have bcm43xx blacklisted and unloaded right?
[08:46] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i should check again, brb
[08:47] <bbt> what kernel do i need to make use of athlon dual core?
[08:47] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok, after that do a 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' and see if 'dmesg' shows any errors
[08:48] <jmichaelx> FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko': No such file or directory
[08:49] <abattoir> jmichaelx: do 'sudo ndiswrapper -d'
[08:49] <abattoir> and then do modprobe
[08:50] <jmichaelx> abattoir: same error
[08:50] <abattoir> jmichaelx: hmm in dmesg?
[08:50] <abattoir> or the FATAL one?
[08:50] <jmichaelx> the fatal one
[08:51] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok, wait a sec
[08:54] <abattoir> jmichaelx: you installed ndiswrapper-source?
[08:54] <abattoir> jmichaelx: try installing that, and see if it works
[08:56] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i installed ndiswrapper-source, but i still get the fatal error when i modprobe
[08:57] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok, check if you have that file... just in case
[08:58] <jmichaelx> abattoir: which file?
[08:58] <abattoir>  /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[08:59] <abattoir> afaik, that file is not provided by any of the packages that you uninstalled now
[08:59] <abattoir> also see if 'linux-restricted-modules' is installed...
[08:59] <abattoir> not sure if ndiswrapper falls under that
[08:59] <abattoir> did you switch from 386 to 686?
[08:59] <abattoir> or was it installed by default?
[09:00] <jmichaelx> abattoir: yes, i am using 686
[09:00] <abattoir> yes, i figured that :P, but did you upgrade from 386?
[09:00] <abattoir> or was it installed by default?
[09:01] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i upgraded
[09:01] <abattoir> i'm guessing you dont have linux-restricted-modules-686 installed
[09:01] <abattoir> not sure if that's the right name, but it should be similar
[09:02] <jmichaelx> linux-restricted-modules-686 is already the newest version
[09:04] <Healot> it points to the latest version ;-
[09:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning everyone!
[09:05] <Healot> afternoon, MilfhousePunkRock
[09:05] <abattoir> jmichaelx: hmm, the file seems to come from the kernel package itself
[09:05] <abattoir> linux-image-686, in your case, i guess
[09:06] <MilhousePunkRock> Hey Healot... Afternoon? So you are east from here too... Hi abattoir...
[09:06] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: morning :)
[09:06] <Healot> i guess, MilhousePunkRock
[09:06] <MilhousePunkRock> I've had the file system check when I just booted, how come I had an illegal block and a few multiple claimed blocks?
[09:07] <abattoir> jmichaelx: do a 'dpkg -S /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko'
[09:07] <abattoir> jmichaelx: and you didnt tell me if the file actually exists... or even the ndiswrapper folder
[09:07] <abattoir>  /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[09:08] <jmichaelx> abattoir: /etc/ndiswrapper does not exist
[09:09] <abattoir> jmichaelx: that should have been created when you installed 'ndiswrapper-utils'
[09:09] <jmichaelx> abattoir: why wasn't it? lol
[09:09] <abattoir> jmichaelx: weird... you are on Kubuntu right :P
[09:09] <abattoir> hehe, kidding
[09:10] <tilix> hi. Does somebody know how to rebuild kubuntu-default-settings because debuild fails with ./debian/tmp/etc/: No such file or directory
[09:11] <abattoir> jmichaelx: i'm not on dapper, so cant cross-check.. do 'dpkg -L ndiswrapper-utils'
[09:11] <abattoir> jmichaelx: do you see a /etc/ndiswrapper there?
[09:11] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i can feel another re-install coming on
[09:12] <jmichaelx> abattoir: /etc/ndiswrapper is not there
[09:12] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok, wait, i'll boot into dapper...
[09:12] <abattoir> brb
[09:13] <MilhousePunkRock> jmichaelx: So you have trouble with ndiswrapper?
[09:14] <jmichaelx> MilhousePunkRock: just a little
[09:14] <jmichaelx> *chokes*
[09:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Did you check and double-check if there are native drivers for your device?
[09:15] <jmichaelx> MilhousePunkRock: there is an open source driver, but it sucks
[09:15] <MilhousePunkRock> jmichaelx: How do you know it sucks, did you try it? Wireless is always a little tricky on Linux (from my humble experience)...
[09:16] <jmichaelx> MilhousePunkRock: i tried it, and could not get it to work, those woth whom i have spoken who did get it to work said that it was really really slow
[09:17] <Healot> no... proprietary hardware/driver manufacturers suck
[09:17] <jmichaelx> need more vodka, brb
[09:17] <intelikey> anyone have this file ?    /sbin/genksyms
[09:17] <MilhousePunkRock> jmichaelx: It should be possible to get it to life with ndiswrapper though, especially with abattoir's help...
[09:17] <intelikey> anyone have this file ?    /sbin/genksyms
[09:17] <jmichaelx> Healot: this is a broadcom, and they have issues. i did have it working on a previous install
[09:17] <MilhousePunkRock> Morning intelikey
[09:18] <intelikey> MilhousePunkRock hey
[09:18] <Healot> yeah
[09:18] <Healot> thank god i don't have/use em
[09:18] <intelikey> trying to find out what this kernel compile is barking about       what's it
[09:19] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey: Let me check...
[09:19] <intelikey> file not found  /sbin/genksyms      so i don't even know what it's supposed to be/do
[09:19] <jmichaelx> abattoir: wb
[09:20] <abattoir> jmichaelx: thanks :P
[09:20] <MilhousePunkRock> intelikey: I don't have it either...
[09:20] <MilhousePunkRock> WB abattoir
[09:20] <x16467498416> abbatoir why were you not on dapper
[09:20] <abattoir> jmichaelx: dpkg -L gives me /etc/ndiswrapper
[09:20] <intelikey> ok thanks MilhousePunkRock
[09:20] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: thanks too :)
[09:21] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i reloaded and i do actually have /etc/ndiswrapper
[09:21] <abattoir> jmichaelx: hmmm
[09:21] <bl3ssing> intelikey, I have an older version and I just need to get to the newest one (you might wonder why? Well .. tried to get to a medical website which's been created in flash, and ... surprise: too old version of firefox. Install the newest from -and here it is the link to the firefox website-)
[09:21] <abattoir> x16467498416: i work on stuff which depends on packages available only in edgy
[09:22] <bl3ssing> intelikey, in case you've already answered ... can you reply it again ... please?
[09:22] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir is a geek... He needs to be on the bleeding edge... :-P
[09:22] <x16467498416> oh i dont even know wht edgy is, is it more advanced than dapper
[09:22] <abattoir> jmichaelx: what about the /lib.... file?
[09:22] <MilhousePunkRock> Has anyone noticed that intelikey already left?
[09:23] <Healot> the future upcoming release
[09:23] <ubuntu> I am new to kubuntu. I cannot boot up my kubuntu from my HD. I suspect the display settings is defaulted higher than the 1024 x 768 setting my display card can take ... can anyone help please??
[09:23] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hehe, no i have given a valid and true reason above :)
[09:23] <MilhousePunkRock> x16467498416: That's the future version of Kubuntu...
[09:23] <abattoir> x16467498416: it is the 'next' version of (K)ubuntu which would be released in Oct. 2006
[09:23] <abattoir> should, rather
[09:23] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu: Can you not boot at all, or doesn't it start X / KDE?
[09:24] <jmichaelx> abattoir: interestingly, i just installed ndisgtk and opened it, and it still shows bcmwl5 as ebing installed
[09:24] <ubuntu> it does not start KDE
[09:24] <jmichaelx> good grief
[09:24] <ubuntu> neither does it start x
[09:24] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu: Maybe a simple command can help you... Let me look it up
[09:24] <abattoir> jmichaelx: hmm...something was not done cleanly...
[09:25] <Richman_2> hi
[09:25] <abattoir> jmichaelx: maybe ndisgtk reads from its own conf files which werent updated...
[09:25] <abattoir> jmichaelx: i'm not familiar w/ how it works
[09:25] <jmichaelx> abattoir: could be, ill try to remove it
[09:25] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu: Boot into a shell and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" that will let you reconfigure X
[09:25] <abattoir> jmichaelx: i though i asked you too.. you didnt?
[09:25] <abattoir> not that it'd matter much...
[09:26] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i did remove it in the command line
[09:26] <jmichaelx> or, i tried to
[09:26] <abattoir> jmichaelx: and... it was still installed?
[09:26] <jmichaelx> abattoir: apparently.....
[09:26] <jmichaelx> i was shocked to see it show up in ndisgtk
[09:27] <x16467498416> abattoir how do you have edgy already
[09:27] <abattoir> x16467498416: anybody who wants to have it can :)
[09:27] <ubuntu> thanks   mil  ... i try that out
[09:27] <x16467498416> o
[09:27] <abattoir> x16467498416: but you shouldnt expect it to be stable...
[09:28] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok, i need to go now... will be back in a few minutes...
[09:28] <abattoir> jmichaelx: or do you want to try this tomorrow... when you are....*cough* :P
[09:28] <abattoir> hehe, dont take that seriously, was just joking :)
[09:29] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i don't get *cough* lol
[09:30] <jmichaelx> but.... if you need to go, it is ok... i would just love to have the wireless working by next weekend
[09:30] <abattoir> jmichaelx: well, i'll be back in a few mins.. if you can wait, that is
[09:30] <abattoir> ok
[09:30] <abattoir> brb
[09:30] <jmichaelx> abattoir: yeah, i can wait
[09:30] <x16467498416> ok so do we have lts on this ubuntu
[09:30] <x16467498416> then will we have it it on the newt
[09:30] <x16467498416> or eft
[09:31] <x16467498416> bye pratibha!
[09:31] <jordan_> hi
[09:31] <x16467498416> hey
[09:31] <x16467498416> do we get LTS on the next release of ubuntu
[09:32] <Hobbsee> x16467498416: no
[09:32] <x16467498416> or is the long term support just anything that starts with a 6 lke 6.04 6.1 ect
[09:32] <x16467498416> ok, so why upgrade if you dont get support
[09:33] <jordan_> how to install Enemy territory for linux ?
[09:33] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan_: What's the file called you downloaded?
[09:34] <MilhousePunkRock> et-linux-2.60.x86.run? jordan?
[09:34] <MilhousePunkRock> et-linux-2.60.x86.run? jordan_?
[09:35] <MilhousePunkRock> Does anyone know a place to get usplash-screens? Other than the 3 they have at kde-look.org that is...
[09:36] <x16467498416> no
[09:36] <x16467498416> i tried that all day, messed my comp up good thats wht i did
[09:36] <x16467498416> installed splashy and what not
[09:36] <vontux> how would one go about determining what drivers are being used for the different devices that ubuntu is able to run automatically, such as your computer's wifi card?
[09:36] <x16467498416> splashy is absolutely terrible do not install it
[09:37] <x16467498416> it always has some problem with xml something or other and crashes your system
[09:37] <arepie> hello.. i have problem with wireless network. I can scan the network access point, but i can't connect, this is maybe the driver of my device is not valid. So, how could i repair this?
[09:37] <jordan_> MilhousePunkRock oki but i need direct rendering. I use ati driver becouse a don' habe error when I reboot computer :/
[09:37] <MilhousePunkRock> x16467498416: The version numbers come from the release year and month: Dapper Drake 6.06 = released year 06 month 06
[09:37] <jordan_> *have
[09:37] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan_: One step at a time, let's install it first...
[09:37] <x16467498416> arepie restart your router and try again
[09:37] <x16467498416> o
[09:38] <arepie> arkk..
[09:38] <arepie> okey.. brb
[09:38] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan_: Open a shell, navigate to where the et-linux-2.60.x86.run is stored
[09:38] <x16467498416> vontux run system settings
[09:38] <x16467498416> then network interfaces it wil tell you what hardware it detects
[09:38] <x16467498416> vontux ron the command kwirelessassistant
[09:39] <x16467498416> that will tell you it autodetected your wireless or not
[09:39] <MilhousePunkRock> x16467498416: Why did you tell arepie to restart his router? That doesn't make sense at all
[09:39] <MilhousePunkRock> x16467498416: Do you even know what you are talking about?
[09:40] <jordan_> Can I broken seciurty for MAC in Lan ?
[09:40] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan_: What?
[09:41] <Healot> MAC spoofing
[09:42] <jordan_> It's posible to have internet in 2 computer when I have regiter internet for only one MAC
[09:42] <Healot> yes, possible
[09:42] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan_: Don't you have a router? Than it uses only one MAC for the outside world, the router's... The PC's MACs don't matter in that case
[09:43] <arepie> I've restart the router, still can't connect
[09:44] <jordan_> MilhousePunkRock No i have internet in Local Are ( simple provider - one seciurity it"s MAC)
[09:44] <MilhousePunkRock> arepie: That was unecessary, don't listen to x16467498416
[09:44] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan_: Healot can probably help you...
[09:44] <_rince_> mrgn
[09:44] <MilhousePunkRock> What about ET, jordan_?
[09:44] <grothesk> Having updated my kubuntu to kde 3.5.4 I'm missing the addressbar in konqueror. Any idea where to look for it?
[09:44] <arepie> MilhousePunkRock: so what should i do ?
[09:45] <jordan_> it's working but a don"t start yet becouse i useing Ati driver
[09:45] <MilhousePunkRock> grothesk: Are you the one from #linux-club.de blixx mentioned earlier in #kubuntu-de?
[09:45] <edon> whye is libxine-extracodecs obsoleted?
[09:45] <jordan_> Healot can you help witch MAC ?
[09:45] <grothesk> I'm on linux-club.de, that's right.
[09:46] <MilhousePunkRock> Join the german channel, blixx is there, he made a forum post about this problem, maybe he can help you...
[09:46] <grothesk> thx
[09:47] <MilhousePunkRock> arepie: Open a shell and type "ifconfig"
[09:47] <arepie> ok done.. and.. ?
[09:47] <jordan_> MilhousePunkRock fglrx have problem witch turn off and rebooting computer so I use Ati driver
[09:48] <MilhousePunkRock> can you post it's output on a pastebin, arepie?
[09:48] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan_: I thought you needed help with installing ET at first...
[09:49] <jordan_> MilhousePunkRock is't oki Et is installing. I don't need help. Thanks a lot of
[09:49] <arepie> hold on MilhousePunkRock
[09:50] <jordan_> Healot can you help witch MAC ?
[09:50] <MilhousePunkRock> the command was sh et-linux...run IIRC, jordan_
[09:51] <Healot> what kind of help you need? jordan_
[09:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Healot: Isn't spoofing MAC adresses kinda in the twilight zone?
[09:51] <jordan_> what i must do for broke this seciurity  ?
[09:52] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan_: Get a router... ;-)
[09:52] <jordan_> What's kind of program  ?router it's too expensive for 2 months
[09:53] <edon> nobody knows why is libxine-extracodecs obsolete, and what substitutes it?
[09:53] <DB_Blade> please?
[09:53] <notbbt> k7-smp is the poop
[09:53] <Hobbsee> edon: it's not, add multiverse repositories
[09:54] <Hobbsee> !multiverse
[09:54] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:54] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[09:54] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[09:54] <arepie> MilhousePunkRock: http://rafb.net/paste/results/RHyO2v27.html
[09:54] <MilhousePunkRock> arepie: Checking...
[09:55] <edon> Hobbsee: i've added it
[09:55] <jordan_> Healot What's kind of program  ?router it's too expensive for 2 months
[09:55] <Hobbsee> edon: after every "universe"?  you need to have it in two places.
[09:55] <MilhousePunkRock> arepie: Assuming wlan0 is your wireless device, the drivers seem to be working
[09:56] <arepie> MilhousePunkRock: http://rafb.net/paste/results/sTSvIx41.html check this
[09:58] <MilhousePunkRock> arepie: Can you post your /etc/network/interfaces too?
[09:58] <arepie> what is the command for that
[09:58] <arepie> print screen ?
[10:00] <arepie> MilhousePunkRock: http://rafb.net/paste/results/SYSydU92.html there you go
[10:00] <MilhousePunkRock> arepie: do "vi /etc/network/interfaces" on the shell and copy it...
[10:00] <dhq> how do i mount an iso image
[10:01] <Healot> sudo mount -t iso9660 filename.iso <mount folder>
[10:01] <arepie> dhq, if you are on windows, you should have nero or other burning program to burn the image to a disk
[10:01] <dhq> no kubuntu
[10:01] <DB_Blade> what's wrong now?
[10:02] <dhq> arepie: i am using kubuntu
[10:02] <MilhousePunkRock> shouldn't k3b let you burn it? or do you really need to mount it, dhq?
[10:02] <jmichaelx> ok there are some things about sudo that are really gay
[10:02] <MilhousePunkRock> arepie: Do you use all the other network devices?
[10:03] <dhq> MilhousePunkRock: i need to mount it as you see i am a  newbie in linux i was using windows just shifted yesterday need to lern a lot
[10:03] <Riddell> gnomefreak: hi
[10:03] <DB_Blade> oh, yes... I remember
[10:03] <gnomefreak> hi Riddell
[10:03] <jmichaelx> when i try to move stuff from my desktop to trash, i have to be root\
[10:03] <gnomefreak> Riddell: it looks good so far ;)
[10:04] <Riddell> gnomefreak: rocking
[10:04] <Riddell> gnomefreak: i386?
[10:04] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i am still getting that fatal error, which is really confusing
[10:04] <gnomefreak> yep
[10:04] <DB_Blade> yes... you are, jmichaelx
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> dhq: This is a good place to work away your noobnes... :-)
[10:04] <arepie> MilhousePunkRock: no.. i just use 1 at the moment.. Lan cable.. but the wireless network i didn't disconecct it from my computer.. im using wireless usb
[10:04] <gnomefreak> jmichaelx: depends on who owns the file you are trying to move
[10:04] <dhq> MilhousePunkRock: thanx
[10:04] <Riddell> gnomefreak: thanks
[10:04] <jmichaelx> gnomefreak: i know, it is no big deal
[10:04] <gnomefreak> jmichaelx: good practice is /home/ and /desktop/ should be user priv.
[10:05] <gnomefreak> Riddell: no problem i love it :)
[10:05] <MilhousePunkRock> arepie: Do you know which ethx your ethernet card is?
[10:05] <jmichaelx> DB_Blade: i probably am lol
[10:05] <arepie> MilhousePunkRock: no, i don't think so..
[10:05] <dhq> how do i mount an iso image
[10:05] <MilhousePunkRock> arepie: I'd suggest you comment all those you don't need out with # in the ../interfaces
[10:06] <jmichaelx> what i so frustrating is that i had this wirelss card working before i reinstalled
[10:06] <MilhousePunkRock> according to your ifconfig it should be eth0 you are using, arepie
[10:07] <arepie> MilhousePunkRock: what if i clear the "/interface" and let it scan automaticaly again.. ?
[10:07] <MilhousePunkRock> arepie: We don't roll like that...
[10:07] <bbt> whats the difference between dapper and edgy ?
[10:08] <jmichaelx> *wonders if his wireless broadcom card would work better in edgy
[10:08] <arepie> su
[10:09] <MilhousePunkRock> arepie: Edit your /etc/network/interfaces in the way, that you put # in front of every line except those sections for lo, eth0 and wlan0
[10:09] <MilhousePunkRock> arepie: Besides that, a simple "auto" could make it all happen...
[10:09] <jmichaelx> does edgy inclue 2.6.17?
[10:09] <MilhousePunkRock> But that would be the next step
[10:09] <MilhousePunkRock> jmichaelx: Yes...
[10:10] <dhq> i was playing a song in amarok from my cd the cd is not ejecting  in konsole i typed "eject -r" device busy
[10:10] <dhq> any way to remove the cd
[10:10] <jmichaelx> MilhousePunkRock: i have heard that wireless is better supported in 2.6.17.....
[10:10] <kuba> #ubuntu-pl
[10:10] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok, am back
[10:10] <jmichaelx> broadcom wireless . i mean
[10:10] <octan> hi all
[10:10] <jmichaelx> wb again abattoir
[10:10] <abattoir> jmichaelx: figured out something in the meanwhile?
[10:10] <MilhousePunkRock> jmichaelx: I can't really say, but I know power management will work better, at least for me...
[10:11] <jmichaelx> abattoir: no, still getting the fatal error
[10:11] <octan> can anyone tell me how i get this to work in kde? http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_Xgl.2FCompiz_.28Nvidia.29
[10:11] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i am wondering ifi would have better luck with edgy unstable
[10:11] <MilhousePunkRock> Riddell, do you have any influence to make edgy become 6.08 instead of 6.10? ;-)
[10:11] <abattoir> jmichaelx: that's weird, because i have the file
[10:11] <abattoir> jmichaelx: no, it works fine in dapper
[10:12] <MilhousePunkRock> octan: Why is everyone so keen about XGL?
[10:12] <DB_Blade> you sure?
[10:12] <abattoir> jmichaelx: and unless you are comfortable with breakages, i wouldnt recommend edgy
[10:12] <octan> MilhousePunkRock, why? cos its the future :) and its awsome.
[10:12] <arepie> MilhousePunkRock: i've done editing the comments, so whats next?
[10:12] <MilhousePunkRock> octan: Maybe you should try the kororaa live cd and see if it works? can be found on kororaa.org
[10:13] <ubuntu> guten Morgen alle
[10:13] <abattoir> !de
[10:13] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:13] <MilhousePunkRock> arepie: type "sudo ifdown wlan0 && sudo ifup wlan0"
[10:13] <octan> MilhousePunkRock, no thxz.. im kinda happy with my distro
[10:13] <MilhousePunkRock> !xgl
[10:13] <abattoir> jmichaelx: have you checked to see if the ndiswrapper.ko file exists?
[10:13] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:13] <jordan_> How when they fix problem witch turn off and rebooting on fglrx ?
[10:13] <jordan_> How know when they fix problem witch turn off and rebooting on fglrx ?
[10:14] <jmichaelx> abattoir: haben vielleicht etwas gegen deustche?!
[10:14] <MilhousePunkRock> does that help, octan?
[10:14] <jmichaelx> just kidding
[10:14] <abattoir> no
[10:14] <DB_Blade> please?
[10:14] <MilhousePunkRock> jmichaelx: No, but this is the international channel...
[10:14] <jmichaelx> haben Sie*
[10:14] <octan> MilhousePunkRock, let me see
[10:14] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i wonder why i do not have that file
[10:15] <MilhousePunkRock> jmichaelx: Are you german anyway?
[10:15] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i am tempted to reinstall yet again
[10:15] <abattoir> jmichaelx: it is part of the kernel... linux-image-686, that is
[10:15] <abattoir> jmichaelx: that'd be a good idea :)
[10:15] <jmichaelx> MilhousePunkRock: no, lol, but i can talk german
[10:15] <DB_Blade> what's so funny?
[10:16] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i am getting sick of reinstalling :-(
[10:16] <DB_Blade> oh, yes... I remember
[10:17] <MilhousePunkRock> DB_Blade: Who ever coded you should practise some more... :-P
[10:17] <octan> MilhousePunkRock, ok that looks like an alright howto ;)
[10:17] <octan> MilhousePunkRock, have you try it?  mean Xgl & compiz?
[10:17] <abattoir> jmichaelx: check if your 386 kernel has the module
[10:17] <MilhousePunkRock> octan: Nice... I wouldn't dare trying XGL on my old Laptop... But I downloaded the Live CD I mentioned earlier, but didn't try it yet...
[10:18] <MilhousePunkRock> octan: I've seen videos though and was kinda impressed...
[10:18] <arepie> MilhousePunkRock: http://rafb.net/paste/results/NavM9V40.html this is the output
[10:18] <MilhousePunkRock> octan: Let me look up a link of something that is even better...
[10:18] <jmichaelx> abattoir: should i boot up in 386, or just look in the file?
[10:18] <octan> hehe,. yea, a lappy would prob strugle with that
[10:18] <abattoir> jmichaelx: first look...
[10:19] <abattoir> i wont be surprised if it was there
[10:19] <jmichaelx> abattoir: ok, ummmm, where do i look?
[10:20] <abattoir>  /lib/modules/<386kernel>/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper
[10:20] <MilhousePunkRock> octan: Check this out --> http://honeybrown.ca/Pubs/BumpTop.html
[10:21] <MilhousePunkRock> arepie: There is some more altering to in the interfaces, I guess...
[10:21] <octan> MilhousePunkRock, ok thxz :)
[10:21] <arepie> MilhousePunkRock: urmmm.. what is it~?
[10:21] <MilhousePunkRock> octan: I don't know what OS that is though, they only give poor info...
[10:22] <jmichaelx> abattoir: yes, it is there
[10:22] <abattoir> jmichaelx: try booting that kernel then...
[10:23] <abattoir> jmichaelx: or, you can try reinstalling the 686 kernel
[10:23] <arepie> brb
[10:23] <DB_Blade> hope you'll come soon ;)
[10:23] <jmichaelx> lemme try reinstalling...... by the way, i saw a madwifi folder... not sure if that is good
[10:24] <abattoir> i dont think it'd help
[10:25] <abattoir> jmichaelx: 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall ....'
[10:26] <abattoir> put in the name of your kernel pkg... of course
[10:28] <jordan_> I'am looking for dock (like in Vista)
[10:28] <jmichaelx> abattoir: linux-686?
[10:29] <octan> MilhousePunkRock that was awsome.. i want that :P
[10:29] <MilhousePunkRock> Indeed... But like I said, the don't state what OS it is and what hardware they use...
[10:29] <jordan_> anybody: I'am looking for dock in linux
[10:30] <kosh> not really sure what you mean
[10:30] <DB_Blade> why not, kosh?
[10:30] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan_: Superkaramba maybe?
[10:30] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there an option to mute somone's output here?
[10:30] <kosh> DB_Blade: why don't I know what he means by a dock? because I have seen lots of different things called docks and I have no idea what the vista one is
[10:30] <DB_Blade> yes, that's right
[10:30] <jmichaelx> abattoir: ok, i reinstalled and am still getting my fatal error.... probably reinstall time
[10:31] <MilhousePunkRock> kosh: Don't bother talking to DB_Blade, I think it's a bot
[10:31] <kosh> ah I see
[10:31] <jordan_> kosh resizeing toolbar witch programe
[10:31] <kosh> somebody should ban it
[10:31] <MilhousePunkRock> I would like to mute him on my end... Is that possible?
[10:31] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan_: Check out superkaramba
[10:31] <kosh> yeah you can use /ignore
[10:32] <kosh> what would you put in the dock?
[10:32] <jordan_> MilhousePunkRock oki I'm serching
[10:32] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan_: I did that for you --> http://netdragon.sourceforge.net/ssuperkaramba.html
[10:32] <jordan_> MilhousePunkRock Thanks :)
[10:32] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok, try booting into the 386
[10:32] <jmichaelx> abattoir: ok, brb
[10:33] <DB_Blade> msg me when your back, jmichaelx
[10:33] <Hobbsee> hi DB_Blade
[10:33] <MilhousePunkRock> i think the tuxbar might be something like you are looking for, jordan_
[10:33] <octan> erm,, i managed to get gdm to become my login manager, how do i get kdm back?
[10:33] <MilhousePunkRock> Good Job Hobsee!
[10:33] <Hobbsee> problem solved.
[10:33] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: :)
[10:33] <Hobbsee> someone could have pinged me over that.
[10:34] <MilhousePunkRock> I was wondering if it wa a bot about an hour ago...
[10:34] <MilhousePunkRock> But I did not see your OP-status, Hobbsee
[10:35] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: freenode policy is to only get ops when needed
[10:35] <MilhousePunkRock> That's why I didn't see it, you didn't have it, Hobbsee... :-)
[10:35] <Hobbsee> :)
[10:36] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan_: I think you should really try to stick to one project at a time though... Doing multiple things and none of them properly will get you nowhere...
[10:36] <admin_> Mil .. thanks a lot ... my kubuntu works now
[10:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Who, what, me? Nice that I could help...
[10:36] <jmichaelx> abattoir: modprobe ndiswrapper worked this time
[10:36] <abattoir> dmesg?
[10:37] <MilhousePunkRock> admin_: Who are you anyway?
[10:37] <admin_> i was the one u help with the display problem ... remember?
[10:37] <jmichaelx> abattoir: several ndiswrapper errors
[10:37] <ThunderStruck> anyone ever use ksmooth panel?
[10:37] <admin_> i had trouble booting up my X and KDE
[10:37] <MilhousePunkRock> With the wrong modes, who I told to reconfigure X?
[10:37] <abattoir> jmichaelx: pastebin
[10:38] <admin_> yup
[10:38] <admin_> i need more help mil
[10:39] <MilhousePunkRock> admin_: Try to hit the tab button after you type Mil, that will make my complete name come up, so I get notified that you talk to me when I am not in the channel window...
[10:39] <admin_> MilhousePunkRock: ok thanks
[10:40] <jmichaelx> abattoir: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/19155
[10:40] <admin_> MilhousePunkRock: this is cool
[10:40] <MilhousePunkRock> admin_: Indeed it is...
[10:40] <MilhousePunkRock> What's the matter now, admin_?
[10:40] <wckdkl0wn> how would i unpack snowball.0.3.tar.gz into $HOME/.kde/share/apps
[10:41] <admin_> MilhousePunkRock: I am trying for decades to implement a samba server with kubuntu for a windows based network ... any leads you can give me?
[10:41] <abattoir> kubuntu has been around for decades?;)
[10:41] <MilhousePunkRock> admin_: No, sorry, I haven't looked into samba yet, I do my "file sharing" with the Windows PC through my USB thumb drive...
[10:42] <abattoir> jmichaelx: weird
[10:42] <ThunderStruck> abattoir: no kubuntu has only been around a few years
[10:42] <jordan_> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins   tallation and add the correct paths!
[10:42] <admin_> MilhousePunkRock: its ok .... appreciate your help
[10:42] <abattoir> jmichaelx: can you remove the driver? w/ -e?
[10:43] <jordan_> I have error what's do next ?
[10:43] <admin_> can anyone help with SAMBA here?
[10:43] <MilhousePunkRock> wckdkl0wn: I believe that would be "sudo tar -xvcf /path/to/snowball.0.3.tar.gz /home/you/.kde/share/apps/"
[10:43] <abattoir> ThunderStruck: oh, ok :P
[10:43] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i'll try
[10:43] <diego_cl> !binutils
[10:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about binutils - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[10:44] <jordan_>  checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins   tallation and add the correct paths!
[10:44] <jordan_> a have error when I'am install suerkaramba
[10:44] <wckdkl0wn> MilhousePunkRock: didnt work
[10:44] <wckdkl0wn> tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' option
[10:45] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan_: How did you try it? "sudo apt-get install superkaramba"?
[10:45] <MilhousePunkRock> OK, if I only knew what xvcf actually does... What does tar --help say about those?
[10:45] <MilhousePunkRock> wckdkl0wn: ^^
[10:46] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i uninstall it with -e. but it says it is not installed. however, when i ndiswrapper -l, it is still listed
[10:46] <jordan_> no I'm compilation
[10:46] <abattoir> jmichaelx: then nothing has changed i guess
[10:46] <wckdkl0wn> thats all greek to me lol
[10:47] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan_: You shouldn't do that if it's in the repos.. Use my apt-get command from above
[10:47] <abattoir> jmichaelx: i suspect its your driver.... could be something else too though
[10:47] <jmichaelx> abattoir: how do i get rid of the darned thing?
[10:47] <jordan_> MilhousePunkRock ok i know but I won't learn compilation
[10:48] <octan> damn.. how do i get back kdm as my login manager? i managed to screw it up by installing gdm,, which i never should have done. ;(
[10:48] <abattoir> jmichaelx: hmmm....
[10:49] <abattoir> jmichaelx: you install it w/ the .sys file right?
[10:49] <jmichaelx> abattoir: the .sys file is in the folder
[10:49] <abattoir> ok
[10:50] <kane___> anyone here uses Skim IME ?
[10:50] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan_: Put that on hold until you actually know what you are doing there...
[10:51] <jordan_> MilhousePunkRock oki but im don't won"t flood chat
[10:51] <wolfmanz> Samba is installed by default with dapper?
[10:51] <kane___> octan: you could try modifying ... cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[10:52] <admin_> wolfmanz: i dont think so
[10:52] <jordan_> MilhousePunkRock
[10:52] <jordan_> jordan@jordan:~/superkaramba-0.39$ cd /home/jordan/superkaramba-0.39/superkaramb
[10:52] <jordan_> a-0.39
[10:52] <jordan_> jordan@jordan:~/superkaramba-0.39/superkaramba-0.39$ ./configure
[10:52] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan_: That's what the pastebin is for... I would still suggest, you just use the packet from adept...
[10:52] <wckdkl0wn> MilhousePunkRock: someone told me to mv snowball.0.3.tar.gz ~/.kde/share/apps; tar -xzvf snowball.0.3.tar.gz
[10:52] <admin_> wolfmanz:  are u looking to install samba server?
[10:52] <jmichaelx> abattoir: i am just going to bed at this point... i wll try again soon, thanks again for the help
[10:52] <MilhousePunkRock> wckdkl0wn: Does that work? You don't have to move it if you specify a target path...
[10:52] <abattoir> jmichaelx: ok
[10:53] <wolfmanz> admin_ i want to setup file sharing with xp there is a samba filer in /etc
[10:53] <wolfmanz> samba folder
[10:53] <wckdkl0wn> it moved it but didnt do anything else
[10:53] <wckdkl0wn> lol
[10:53] <jordan_> MilhousePunkRock in 99% checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your ins   tallation and add the correct paths!
[10:53] <JamieBE> Lots of people in here.
[10:53] <JamieBE> Hi everyone
[10:54] <MilhousePunkRock> I guess you need root privileges to write something in that directory...
[10:54] <MilhousePunkRock> try my command with the suffixes from the other guy's suggestion...
[10:54] <jordan_> MilhousePunkRock what's wrong
[10:54] <admin_> wolfmanz: yeah i am trying to do the same ... i cannot get adept manager to install samba for me ... can u help
[10:55] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan_: Don't compile anything that is in the repos, especially if you do not know what it actually does!
[10:55] <MilhousePunkRock> jordan_: Just use "sudo apt-get install superkaramba"
[10:55] <JamieBE> Does KDE automatically stick devices on the desktop when they are plugged in?
[10:55] <wolfmanz> admin i was just checking adept and i do have the samba common files but not samb installed so i gotta do that i guess
[10:55] <wolfmanz> admin_ you may want to read this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=216692&highlight=xp+file+sharing
[10:55] <MilhousePunkRock> JamieBE: It does for me, if you talk about a USB HDD for example...
[10:56] <priscillia> hey
[10:56] <JamieBE> MilhousePunkRock - Is there a way of turning this option off, so it doesn't auto mount on the desktop
[10:57] <MilhousePunkRock> JamieBE: Most likely there is one, but I don't know it, sorry...
[10:57] <MilhousePunkRock> JamieBE: And I think it does not mount it there, it's just a link
[10:57] <wolfmanz> admin_ i just installed samba with adept and that went ok
[10:57] <JamieBE> Nobody does! It seems like such an obvious thing.
[10:57] <priscillia> hey jamie
[10:57] <JamieBE> Hi Priscillia
[10:57] <abattoir> morn] ] ]
[10:58] <priscillia> are you from belgium?
[10:58] <admin_> wolfmanz: could you guide me how you do it?
[10:58] <abattoir> ugh sorry
[10:58] <MilhousePunkRock> JamieBE: Did you try asking in #kde ? although I am not sure if that really is a KDE matter...
[10:58] <JamieBE> I am not, no.
[10:58] <priscillia> because of the BE
[10:58] <priscillia> could be
[10:58] <wckdkl0wn> where do i apply themes at in kubuntu?
[10:58] <jordan_> how to add superkaramba and kadu to autostart ?
[10:58] <JamieBE> MilhousePunkRock: I don't even use KDE, I am running Gnome-Ubuntu
[10:58] <wolfmanz> admin_ what the install of samba?
[10:58] <JamieBE> But nobody knows in there!
[10:59] <ThunderStruck> wckdkl0wn: system settings
[10:59] <MilhousePunkRock> JamieBE: lol, this is Kubuntu... ;-)
[10:59] <JamieBE> I know..... :)
[10:59] <admin_> wolfmanz: yes wolf, could you guide me install the samba server
[10:59] <MilhousePunkRock> wckdkl0wn: What kind of themes? KDM themes?
[10:59] <wckdkl0wn> MilhousePunkRock: yea
[10:59] <Healot> JamieBE: remove your user from these groups, hal, cdrom, floppy
[10:59] <JamieBE> I have got more conversation here than in the #ubuntu help channel so far though!
[10:59] <gnomefreak> now if i ca just figure out how to get ksmooth to sit at bottom i will love it
[10:59] <dnkidjit> JamieBE: the devices are actually mounted into /media. i think you can enable / disable if they are shown with Configure Desktop->Behavior->Device Icons
[10:59] <MilhousePunkRock> wckdkl0wn: do "sudo apt-get install kdmtheme"
[11:00] <wolfmanz> admin_ are you not seeing samba in the list of things that adept can install?
[11:00] <MilhousePunkRock> wckdkl0wn: That's the KDM Theme Manager, once you installed it (and restarted KDE?) it will reside in the system settings...
[11:00] <wckdkl0wn> MilhousePunkRock: ty
[11:00] <admin_> wolfmanz: yes i do not see the list of things i can install with adept
[11:00] <MilhousePunkRock> wckdkl0wn: Once you have it I can guide you further...
[11:01] <fritsch> admin_ perhaps there aren`t any?
[11:01] <JamieBE> Healot - How would I remove a user from these groups? dnkidjit - I don't use KDE, and I don't think gnome has an alternative there.
[11:01] <fritsch> admin_: try sudo apt-get update
[11:01] <wolfmanz> admin your not seeing anything at no programs at all in the list?
[11:01] <Kadran> hi, how can i restart the sound, i have skype doesn't work and no program use /dev/dsp
[11:01] <jordan_> how to add superkaramba and kadu to autostart ?
[11:01] <fritsch> Kadran: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[11:01] <admin_> wolfmanz: all i see is the programs i have installed ... no SMB server
[11:02] <wolfmanz> jordan just through karamba in your system tray that will load it every time you boot
[11:02] <fritsch> Kadran: try the skype 1.3.0 beta packages, they already support alsa
[11:02] <Kadran> fritsch: i tried this but skype still refuse to start?
[11:02] <Kadran> i have it already
[11:02] <fritsch> there you can switch to "use alsa"
[11:02] <admin_> fritsch: i suspect it is not pointing to the appropriate repositories
[11:03] <JamieBE> Healot, you still there dude?
[11:03] <fritsch> ah, you get it with apt-get?
[11:03] <Kadran> fritsch: yeah the problem happened when i tried to start skype and the Amarok was running
[11:03] <admin_> ok i try that
[11:03] <wolfmanz> admin_ in adept under the show options do you got show not installed checked off?
[11:04] <fritsch> Kadran: http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/13beta.html <- have tried this version?
[11:04] <fritsch> Kadran: here skype is working, while listening to music in amarok
[11:04] <Kadran> yes i got it from the skype site
[11:04] <fritsch> Kadran: benefit from alsa
[11:05] <fritsch> Kadran: open skype, Tools->options
[11:05] <JamieBE> dnkidjit: Would there be an equivenant for Gnome?
[11:05] <Kadran> yeah i have done this before but i don't know why it refused this time
[11:06] <dnkidjit> JamieBE: sorry. i don't use gnome. i don't know
[11:06] <fritsch> Kadran: Sound Device, choose alsa
[11:06] <JamieBE> Darn
[11:06] <fritsch> Kadran: restart skype
[11:06] <MilhousePunkRock> wckdkl0wn: Did you find it?
[11:06] <Kadran> fritsch: still having this strange problem!
[11:06] <admin_> wolfmanz: its ticked .... adept tells me all my packages are installed ... i suspect its pointing to the wrong repositories i.e. the CD
[11:07] <fritsch> Kadran: did you use an earlier version of skype before?
[11:08] <Kadran> yeah but i deleted the .skype folder before using the new version
[11:08] <fritsch> Kadran: if you click in skype: help->about what version shows up?
[11:08] <Kadran> <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:09] <fritsch> Kadran: and you chose alsa as your sound device?
[11:09] <Kadran> i always use alsa
[11:09] <fritsch> Kadran: okay, in amarok you also chose alsa? right?
[11:09] <wolfmanz> admin_ goto the repositorie section of adept and in there look for 2 lines that have universe in them and see if they are greyed out
[11:10] <Kadran> fritsch: yeah
[11:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Morning AegeanLinux_!
[11:10] <fritsch> Kadran: what says: sudo fuser /dev/dsp?
[11:10] <AegeanLinux_> Hiya MilhousePunkRock
[11:10] <fritsch> Kadran: or lsof /dev/dsp
[11:10] <MilhousePunkRock> AegeanLinux_: How many days left til the release?
[11:11] <Kadran> fritsch: nothing at all
[11:11] <wolfmanz> abattoir is samba part of the universe repos?
[11:11] <Kadran> no program use the /dev/dsp
[11:11] <fritsch> Kadran: could you tell me again the error message?
[11:11] <abattoir> !info samba
[11:11] <ubotu> samba: a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix. In repository main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 2778 kB, installed size 7080 kB
[11:11] <abattoir> wolfmanz: main, ^^^^^^^^^
[11:12] <admin_> wolfmanz: i cannot get adept loaded :(((
[11:12] <wolfmanz> abattoir can you help admin_ he is having issues getting samba downloaded
[11:12] <itzjbyrd> hello
[11:12] <abattoir> wolfmanz: ok
[11:13] <abattoir> admin_: tried apt-get?
[11:13] <abattoir> admin_: 'sudo apt-get install samba' in a terminal/konsole
[11:13] <admin_> abattoir: am trying now ....
[11:13] <wolfmanz> i gotta watch these doods kill each other in the UFC lol brb
[11:13] <abattoir> admin_: make sure you have adept closed, before doing it...
[11:14] <JamieBE> FOUND IT!! >> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75710.html
[11:14] <JamieBE> Tx all 4 ur hlp n e way
[11:16] <admin_> it says my samba was replaced by samba-common and smbclient which are already install
[11:17] <admin_> abattoir: apt-get says my samba was replaced by samba-common and smbclient which are already installed
[11:17] <AegeanLinux> MilhousePunkRock: I am on my way to compiling xorg 7.1, so I would guess next few days ...
[11:17] <AegeanLinux> __guess__
[11:17] <MilhousePunkRock> AegeanLinux: Nice...
[11:18] <abattoir> admin_: what exactly do you want to do?
[11:18] <abattoir> !samba
[11:18] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:18] <abattoir> admin_: see if that^^^^ helps you
[11:18] <admin_> abattoir: i want my kubuntu to be a samba server in a windows network
[11:19] <fritsch> admin_: just do sudo apt-get install samba
[11:19] <admin_> fritsch: i just did that but it says my samba already installed ... i suspect mine is only a client ... i want my kubuntu to be a server
[11:20] <abattoir> admin_: do those links help?
[11:20] <admin_> ubotu: thanks .... i need to install the server daemon
[11:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about thanks .... i need to install the server daemon - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[11:21] <abattoir> admin_: ubotu is a bot, a computer program :P
[11:21] <fritsch> admin_: samba already installs the server daemon?
[11:21] <fritsch> admin_: try: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart?
[11:21] <MilhousePunkRock> I'm sure ubotu has feelings too and is happy if someone actually thanks him though...
[11:22] <abattoir> heh
[11:22] <fritsch> admin_: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu#Samba_Server (everything up from the beginning)
[11:23] <admin_> fritsch: sudo says "command not found" :((((
[11:23] <fritsch> admin_: use the TAB completion, could be named other, but try this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_Samba_Server_for_files.2Ffolders_sharing_service
[11:24] <fritsch> admin_: it` s a step, be step howto
[11:24] <fritsch> admin_: okay?
[11:26] <admin_> fritsch: :((( not okay ..... there is no smbfs in my apt-get list ....I think my apts are pointing to the wrong repositories!
[11:27] <abattoir> !info smbfs
[11:27] <ubotu> smbfs: mount and umount commands for the smbfs (for kernels >= than 2.2.x). In repository main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3.1 (dapper), package size 369 kB, installed size 888 kB
[11:27] <abattoir> admin_: its in main
[11:27] <fritsch> admin_: something wrong with your sources.list?
[11:27] <fritsch> admin_: at least you must have in /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[11:27] <admin_> fritsch: I agree ... how do i fix it?
[11:28] <fritsch> admin_: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list and look inthere, if the above line is in there
[11:28] <fritsch> admin_: don`t know the "userfriendly" way ;-) I am from debian :-)
[11:29] <chenlevy> Hi all.
[11:29] <MilhousePunkRock> Does someone know how I can make OOo _not_ underline the Alt+<key> shortcuts in the menu?
[11:30] <MilhousePunkRock> admin_: Maybe this helps:
[11:30] <MilhousePunkRock> !easysource
[11:30] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:31] <chenlevy> I have a crash probme with Konqueror
[11:31] <chenlevy> I have makde a clean install of kubuntu dapper
[11:32] <chenlevy> And then upgrade to kde 3.4.3 amarok 1.4.1 and latest koffice
[11:32] <chenlevy> run easyubuntu
[11:32] <fritsch> 3.5.3? correct?
[11:32] <admin_> fritsch: my sources list was commented out!!! now its loading the update
[11:32] <MilhousePunkRock> chenlevy: Just run the installation from the LiveCD again, that will format your harddrive and you can start from scratch again...
[11:32] <chenlevy> yes 3.5.3
[11:32] <fritsch> admin_: cool :-) just follow the howto
[11:32] <viktor> anyone knows if the dapper server is down or something i cant use apt-get :P
[11:32] <fritsch> chenlevy: does it hard freeze? or do you get an error message?
[11:33] <chenlevy> now every site i point konq into it crashes
[11:33] <fritsch> chenlevy: what leads to this crash? (I try to reproduce it)
[11:33] <fritsch> chenlevy: something useful in .xsession-errors ?
[11:33] <chenlevy> I get the crash manager and the app goes away
[11:33] <fritsch> chenlevy: computer too warm?
[11:33] <chenlevy> X is keep running
[11:34] <fritsch> chenlevy: some strange konquer plugins installed?
[11:34] <chenlevy> computer can be too warm but ony konq crashes
[11:34] <chenlevy> I tries to remove konq-plugins - same problem
[11:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Does someone know how I can make OOo _not_ underline the Alt+<key> shortcuts in the menu?
[11:34] <fritsch> chenlevy: what stands there, if you click on "debug"? when the thing comes up?
[11:35] <chenlevy> I can past the debug info (most of it is unknow symbol though)
[11:35] <fritsch> chenlevy: no, don` t paste
[11:35] <fritsch> chenlevy: there was something with no-paste in this channel
[11:36] <fritsch> chenlevy: try looking in .xsession-errors
[11:36] <fritsch> chenlevy: it`s in your home
[11:36] <MilhousePunkRock> chenlevy: Put it in a paste bin, for example http://pastebin.ca
[11:36] <gnomefreak> !paste
[11:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:37] <viktor> anyone knows how o get the digital audio outpot to work in kubuntu ?
[11:37] <fritsch> viktor: try alsamixer to enable your digial output
[11:38] <chenlevy> In the .xsession i get somthing like this (sory for the past but it is short)
[11:38] <chenlevy> ScimInputContextPlugin()
[11:38] <chenlevy> X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 8
[11:38] <chenlevy>   Major opcode:  157
[11:38] <chenlevy>   Minor opcode:  6
[11:38] <chenlevy>   Resource id:  0xa3
[11:38] <chenlevy> ASSERT: "data->bitmap" in kernel/qbitmap.cpp (222)
[11:38] <chenlevy> KCrash: Application 'konqueror' crashing...
[11:39] <fritsch> chenlevy: what tells: ps aux |grep kded
[11:40] <RawSewage> How do you increase the Recent Documents list from 10 to more
[11:40] <chenlevy> my ps -aux |grep kded is:
[11:40] <chenlevy> chenlevy  6544  0.1  1.7  34564 18468 ?        S    12:27   0:01 kded [kdeinit]  --new-startup
[11:40] <viktor> fritsch that didn't work to well :/
[11:41] <fritsch> chenlevy: okay, it`s running, sorry can`t help then..
[11:41] <fritsch> viktor: does anything come out? what means too well? well != bad ;-)
[11:43] <fritsch> chenlevy: sometimes it helps to rm -r ~/.kde* :-) but do not type anything wrong, it removes everything user kde related (amarok settings, all kde settings) be carefull and don`t place the * wrong
[11:43] <viktor> fritsch no i starts alsamixer but i can't find out how to enable the digital output ??
[11:44] <Ace2007> you mean rm -r ~/.kde/*
[11:44] <fritsch> Ace2007: no, there is also a ~/.kderc i want to get
[11:44] <fritsch> Ace2007: so I remove the direcotry .kde und the .kderc
[11:44] <Ace2007> oh right ok
[11:45] <fritsch> viktor: mmh, what is your soundcard?
[11:45] <chenlevy> I have already tryied moveing my .kde/ and my .font* too, but I didn't try .kderc yet.
[11:45] <chenlevy> I will try it now.
[11:46] <chenlevy> I will need to disconnect to and restart X, so tanks for now
[11:46] <fritsch> chenlevy: don`t give you much hope with it
[11:46] <fritsch> chenlevy: no just logout and in
[11:46] <viktor> fritsch Realtek ALC850 7.1
[11:47] <fritsch> chenlevy: you culd try: strace konqueror (perhaps here you can see something)
[11:47] <Ace2007> for me .kderc only has some colour values in it so what difference does deleting it make?
[11:47] <chenlevy> fwiw konquoror works find as a file manager
[11:48] <dhq_> how to mount a iso
[11:48] <Ace2007> dhq_: you can find mount iso at kde-apps
[11:48] <fritsch> Ace2007: it does not make many sense
[11:49] <chenlevy> I have tried strace but was unable to get much smarter form the result
[11:49] <dhq_> Ace2007:  whats kde-apps
[11:49] <fritsch> chenlevy: but it crashed again?
[11:49] <Ace2007> dhq_: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=11577
[11:49] <chenlevy> hold on
[11:50] <dhq_> Ace2007: i downloaded the file its a tar .gz i am newbie so plz help
[11:52] <chenlevy> I am back
[11:53] <chenlevy> I am no running with a fresh .kde and .kderc and konq crashes like there is no tommorow
[11:53] <dhq_> Ace2007: i have a bin/cue file and want to mount it
[11:54] <fritsch> chenlevy: does the kernel say something about memory? dmesg
[11:54] <fritsch> chenlevy: no tomorrow :-)
[11:54] <Ace2007> dhq_: mount iso says it can mount bin/cue files
[11:55] <MilhousePunkRock> brb
[11:56] <fritsch> chenlevy: you could try a ram test? (did not see it so often crashing)
[11:57] <chenlevy> I get nothing form /var/log/messages
[11:57] <Ace2007> dhq_: Have you installed it?
[11:57] <chenlevy> I will go and run memtest now
[11:57] <fritsch> chenlevy: dmesg
[11:58] <crparr> Hi! What is the correct way to install a flash plugin for mozilla firefox on an amd64?
[11:58] <fritsch> crparr: not to install it :-)
[12:00] <fritsch> crparr: http://www.kubuntu.de/forum/forum.php?req=thread&id=2141
[12:00] <Ace2007> I have to go now, my sister is dragging me to blockbuster, bye :(
[12:00] <chenlevy> can't find any obvious problems by dmesg
[12:01] <crparr> Well - I also do not like flash - but two of my favorite sites use flash... therefor: how can I install the plugin for ff on amd64?
[12:01] <fritsch> chenlevy: you could try the 3.5.4 beta? packages for kubuntu
[12:01] <fritsch> crparr: 141
[12:01] <fritsch> crparr: http://www.kubuntu.de/forum/forum.php?req=thread&id=2141
[12:02] <chenlevy> where is the repos for  3.5.4 beta ?
[12:02] <fritsch> chenlevy: tell me your packages.kubuntu line fr 353?
[12:03] <chenlevy> fritsch: (I cannot page you in private) please explain the last message
[12:03] <chenlevy> what is my sorces.list with reguard to 353 ?
[12:03] <fritsch> chenlevy: which version of kde do you use?
[12:04] <chenlevy> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main
[12:04] <fritsch> chenlevy: to use it, you placed an extra entry into your /etc/apt/sources.list? correct?
[12:04] <fritsch> chenlevy: try  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354 dapper main
[12:04] <fritsch> chenlevy: BUT I do not know if it`s working in any way ...
[12:04] <chenlevy> Is that uses jonathan radell key?
[12:04] <fritsch> chenlevy: a dist-upgrade will remove kdelibs-bin (because of this, i did not try)
[12:05] <fritsch> chenlevy: yes
[12:05] <chenlevy> ok thanks I will try it now
[12:05] <fritsch> chenlevy: Jonathan Riddell, but be warned, never tested, you could end up very broken :-)
[12:06] <fritsch> chenlevy: an apt-get upgrade is not enough, apt-get dist-upgrade does install more, i do not know if i should recommend this :-)
[12:06] <fritsch> chenlevy: i do not
[12:06] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: You are not familiar with OOo settings by any chance?
[12:07] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hmm, i dont use it, I use Koffice, but anyways ask, i might know...
[12:08] <chenlevy> fritsch: thanks. I got it. but since it is borken as it is, I will give it a shot. Morever I will not have to patch kttsd. It is a plus for me
[12:08] <crparr> one more question: Is it possible to emulate 32bit? In gentoo Linux that was the way to get 32bit tools to run.
[12:08] <fritsch> chenlevy: downgrading can be very hard
[12:09] <fritsch> chenlevy: good luck, what does it want to remove? when you say dist-upgrade?
[12:09] <MilhousePunkRock> My OOo looks like this: http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmphoto3dz4.png
[12:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Note the very fat underlining, abattoir, that's my problem...
[12:10] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: are these the same as your KDE fonts?
[12:10] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: i mean, same font style?
[12:11] <MilhousePunkRock> Font style as in font name?
[12:11] <fritsch> abattoir: I would suggest him to delete his personal ooo config files, because it`s really NOT looking normal
[12:11] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: Kcontrol/systemsettings has an option for GTK sytles and fonts... maybe that'd help
[12:12] <fritsch> chenlevy: still there?
[12:12] <abattoir> fritsch: hmm, i dont use OO.o, as i said, so i guess you'd know better :P
[12:12] <MilhousePunkRock> It's solved, abattoir... "Using system fonts for user interface" was the problem... fritsch too
[12:12] <fritsch> abattoir: yes, your way was much better :-)
[12:12] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: in the GTK styles/fonts thing?
[12:12] <fritsch> abattoir: fixed, cool.
[12:13] <abattoir> fritsch: hmm... whatever :P
[12:13] <MilhousePunkRock> OOo is a GTK app? o_O Another thing staining my KDE... ;-)
[12:16] <AegeanLinux> MilhousePunkRock: yes it is
[12:16] <AegeanLinux> Make it look nice VIA using a program called 'QtCurve'
[12:17] <AegeanLinux> then it will fit into KDE ;)
[12:17] <AegeanLinux> (so will firefox and other GTK+ apps)
[12:33] <menno_> hi. is Kino a good videoprog for using with a DVcam?
[12:38] <theoverload> hi all
[12:43] <MilhousePunkRock> !qtcurve
[12:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about qtcurve - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:44] <MilhousePunkRock> !info qtcurve
[12:44] <ubotu> Package qtcurve does not exist in dapper
[12:47] <LacertaII> i seem to have a problem with wireless assistant
[12:48] <LacertaII> how can i configure it?
[12:48] <LacertaII> Most screenshots show the "configure"-button which i don't have
[12:57] <noiesmo> eqit
[12:57] <noiesmo> exit
[12:57] <noiesmo> quit
[01:06] <schmo> anyone here made use of kdevelop on kubunti?
[01:06] <schmo> kubuntu
[01:14] <kraut> moin
[01:19] <Ace2005> I'm back!!!!
[01:21] <abattoir> back from the future? :P
[01:21] <Ace2005> hi abattoir
[01:21] <Ace2005> no from the past
[01:21] <abattoir> Ace2005: hello Ace2005, werent you Ace2007 in the morning?
[01:21] <abattoir> well then 'Back to the Future' then
[01:21] <Ace2007> oh yes i was
[01:22] <Ace2007> would anyone by any chance know how to configure ksensors?
[01:23] <Ace2007> how do i make it show my CPU temperature
[01:24] <chenlevy> fritsch, and everybody: here are the results of my upgrade to 3.5.4 beta with respect to my konq crashes.
[01:24] <Ace2007> when i try to start lm-sensors i get Setting sensors limits...                                             [fail]
[01:24] <chenlevy> In short. It solved the problems
[01:25] <Ace2007> chenlevy: so how about the extended edition?
[01:25] <chenlevy> I am unsure for why konqeror was broken on my end.
[01:26] <diego_cl> !synaptic
[01:26] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[01:26] <chenlevy> It was an almose by the book clean installation
[01:26] <Ace2007> what new things are there?
[01:26] <Ace2007> why almost?
[01:26] <chenlevy> but as a web broser konq was crashing on me *everytime*
[01:27] <chenlevy> so taking fritsch's advice I upgraded to 3.5.4 beta and now konq works find
[01:27] <Ace2007> its been crashing on me a bit too, it might be a plugin issue
[01:27] <chenlevy> I have the expected beta brakage, but I will plow along with it, resolveing it as i go
[01:27] <chenlevy> Thanks for everybody for the advice.
[01:28] <zsuzsi> hi
[01:29] <zsuzsi> i have created a kubuntu GRUB boot splash for widescreen displays
[01:29] <zsuzsi> any way i can upload it somewhere so other people will see?
[01:29] <Ace2007> imageshack?
[01:29] <zsuzsi> where is that?
[01:30] <Ace2007> google it
[01:30] <zsuzsi> ok :)
[01:30] <Ace2007> http://imageshack.us/
[01:30] <zsuzsi> do they take .xpm.gz files too?
[01:31] <Ace2007> imageshack is just for images, i want to see what it looks like before i install it
[01:31] <zsuzsi> ok
[01:31] <zsuzsi> but even xpm is unsupported.
[01:31] <Ace2007> you could put it on rapidshare
[01:31] <zsuzsi> shall i just convert it then?
[01:31] <zsuzsi> oh
[01:32] <zsuzsi> another site i never heard of :p
[01:32] <chenlevy> Ace2007: I have signled out the konq-plug issue by removing the package, but it went boom anyway
[01:33] <zsuzsi> there, here's the download link: http://rapidshare.de/files/27431859/WidescreenKubuntuBootSplash.xpm.html
[01:33] <zsuzsi> it doesnt look like its widescreen
[01:33] <ninniuz> hi how come the latest kernel available is 2.6.15 while the latest stable release is 2.6.17?
[01:33] <zsuzsi> coz the resolution is 640x480
[01:33] <Ace2007> chenlevy: thanks for the info
[01:33] <zsuzsi> but it is shrinked so when GRUB spreads it, it fits perfectly.
[01:34] <ninniuz> where can I get some sort of kernel release plan ?
[01:35] <Ace2007> zsuzsi: so where does the text go?
[01:35] <zsuzsi> above the kubuntu logo.
[01:35] <zsuzsi> grub takes care of that.
[01:35] <zsuzsi> in fact, the kubuntu logo kinda lies inside the box
[01:35] <Ace2007> zsuzsi: i think i'll have a go too
[01:36] <zsuzsi> so the choices are above it, but the text is at the bottom
[01:36] <Ace2007> zsuzsi: Is there a limit on the colours you can use?
[01:36] <zsuzsi> yes
[01:36] <zsuzsi> 14
[01:36] <zsuzsi> the image has to be 640x480, and 14 colours.
[01:37] <Ace2007> zsuzsi: Not enough colours :( i want more
[01:37] <grothesk_> Having upgraded my kubunut dapper to kde 3.5.4 arts now keeps crashing when a systemsound is being played.
[01:38] <grothesk_> What can I do about it?
[01:38] <zsuzsi> i know, me too. but i dont know how that can be done. i just read some stuff about it on the internet and they all said it just has to be 14 colours.
[01:39] <zsuzsi> grothesk_, is it your entire desktop that crashes or just the program you are trying to use?
[01:39] <Ace2007> zsuzsi: well there won't be this restriction in grub2
[01:39] <zsuzsi> ah i'm very happy about that!!!!
[01:39] <zsuzsi> :D
[01:39] <zsuzsi> is that coming with edgy?
[01:39] <grothesk_> zsuzsi: It' just  artsd.
[01:40] <Ace2007> zsuzsi: its in the repo now but i'm not touching it, i'm not reinstalling again this week
[01:40] <zsuzsi> whatrepo?
[01:40] <zsuzsi> one of the standard ubuntu repos?
[01:41] <Ace2007> zsuzsi: how do i find out which one?
[01:41] <zsuzsi> um, i have no clue, other than when you disable all the other repos you can't find it in synaptic. it doesn't matter if it's in one of the standard ubuntu repos. :p
[01:42] <zsuzsi> grothesk_, do you get some kind of a signal (eg. "signal 11")?
[01:43] <zsuzsi> or error message, or something?
[01:43] <Ace2007> grothesk_: it it like when you press play and everything crashes, and nothing works, and the mouse stops working and the keyboard does nothing and the only option is to press the reset button?
[01:44] <grothesk_> zsuzsi: Signal 6 SIGABRT
[01:44] <grothesk_> Ace2007: No, just artsd crashes.
[01:45] <Ace2007> grothesk_: seems like i'm the only one it happens to
[01:45] <grothesk_> #1  0x43af3933 in waitpid () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
[01:47] <zsuzsi> grothesk_ (and Ace2007?) it seems like a KDE related problem
[01:47] <zsuzsi> i've found this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=437587
[01:48] <Ace2007> grothesk_: well you could disable arts
[01:48] <zsuzsi> the last post there seems to suggest a solution?
[01:48] <zsuzsi> yes, you can just simply try to run eg. ALSA.
[01:49] <zsuzsi> though i'm not entirely sure how to do that off the top of my head..
[01:50] <zsuzsi> anyway, is there a central kubuntu arts site, or something?
[01:51] <MuJ> he's running alsa already
[01:51] <MuJ> it's kernel component, whereas arts is application
[01:52] <diego_cl> is there a "start" folder on kubuntu ?!?!
[01:52] <Ace2007> diego_cl: like run on startup?
[01:52] <MuJ> what's "start" "folder"?
[01:52] <diego_cl> yes
[01:52] <Ace2007> ~/.kde/Autostart/
[01:53] <diego_cl> THANKS !
[01:53] <RawSewage> my update kdelibs-data has been broken for several days now
[01:54] <Ace2007> thats a statement and not a question
[01:54] <grothesk_> Turned off arts. Works for me... *g*
[01:55] <RawSewage> my update kdelibs-data has been broken for several days now.  is it broekn for anyone else?
[01:56] <zsuzsi> RawSewage, um, not for me.
[01:56] <RawSewage> weird
[01:56] <Ace2007> RawSewage: Why is it broken?
[01:56] <RawSewage> I dont know
[01:56] <fritsch> RawSewage: which version?
[01:56] <RawSewage> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[01:57] <RawSewage> I assume the latest
[01:57] <fritsch> RawSewage: 3.5.4 or 3.5.3
[01:57] <RawSewage> what is it.   /exec
[01:57] <diego_cl> Ace2007: my startup folder is empty and when I login in Kubuntu KDE, an internet website and the mixer are opened
[01:57] <RawSewage> what is it.   /exec kde-version
[01:57] <fritsch> RawSewage: run kcontrol
[01:58] <RawSewage> Qt: 3.3.6
[01:58] <RawSewage> KDE: 3.5.3
[01:58] <RawSewage> kde-config: 1.0
[01:58] <RawSewage> you can type /exec kdeversion
[01:58] <RawSewage> in Konversation
[01:58] <fritsch> RawSewage: what do you mean exactly with broken? not installable?
[01:58] <Ace2007> diego_cl: that is because kubuntu is set to carry on from the time you shut down, do you want it to start with nothing?
[01:58] <diego_cl> yes
[01:58] <diego_cl> only with some things in the taskbar
[01:58] <RawSewage> fritsch, its stuck on  'There is 1 updated package available'  .   When I try to apply the update, it stops halfway though, and gives me the error
[01:59] <Ace2007> diego_cl: run kcontrol
[01:59] <diego_cl> the issue is that it open very old things !
[01:59] <Ace2007> diego_cl: go into KDE Components > Session Manager
[01:59] <fritsch> RawSewage: dpkg -i --force /var/cache/apt/archives/YOURPACKAGE.deb
[01:59] <fritsch> RawSewage: just try
[01:59] <Ace2007> diego_cl: then set it to start wih empty session
[01:59] <RawSewage> I dont know what package
[02:00] <RawSewage> kdelibs-data
[02:00] <fritsch> RawSewage: open a terminal
[02:00] <RawSewage> I'll try what you said
[02:00] <fritsch> RawSewage: sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:00] <Ace2007> diego_cl: now it will start with nothing open at startup
[02:00] <fritsch> RawSewage: dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/yourpackage.deb
[02:00] <fritsch> RawSewage: replace yourpackage, of course
[02:00] <RawSewage> ok
[02:01] <RawSewage> there is no deb
[02:01] <RawSewage> oh well, thx
[02:01] <RawSewage> Ill just wait
[02:02] <fritsch> RawSewage: do sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:02] <fritsch> RawSewage: what happens then?
[02:02] <RawSewage> hm
[02:02] <RawSewage> after running it in a terminal
[02:02] <RawSewage> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.3-0ubuntu0.2_all.deb (--unpack):
[02:02] <RawSewage>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop', which is also in package ktorrent
[02:03] <RawSewage> I'll be back in 30 minutes
[02:03] <diego_cl> Ace2007: i knew that, but thanks. now, can you tell me WHY my session starts with things that y didnt leave open the last time i used the computer ?!?!  they are always the same two things
[02:03] <fritsch> RawSewage: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.3-0ubuntu0.2_all.deb
[02:03] <RawSewage> ok, I'll try that
[02:03] <RawSewage> thx
[02:04] <Ace2007> diego_cl: what ones are they?
[02:04] <fritsch> RawSewage: working?
[02:04] <RawSewage> fritsch, it got rid of the tray Alert.  I got this error though:  ** (process:21521): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[02:04] <steven> Hey, guys.
[02:04] <RawSewage> but I guess it cleared it
[02:04] <diego_cl> Ace2007: a website in konqueror and the sound mixer
[02:04] <fritsch> RawSewage: nothing to do with the error
[02:04] <smoq> hey
[02:04] <RawSewage> fritsch, so it's fixed?
[02:05] <steven> Okay, first time on KDE. Normally use to GNOME.
[02:05] <fritsch> RawSewage: try again sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:05] <fritsch> RawSewage: If then working okay - fixed :-)
[02:05] <steven> ;)
[02:05] <diego_cl> Ace2007: sound mixer as a window (not only as an icon at the taskbar)
[02:05] <steven> I've been converted.
[02:06] <smoq> which IRC klient are the best at dapper?
[02:06] <RawSewage> fritsch, all fixed.  thanks a lot
[02:06] <Ace2007> diego_cl: strange konqueror should not come and neigher should kmix
[02:06] <steven> smoq: X-Chat.
[02:06] <I_Eat_Plastic> xchat
[02:06] <steven> I hate Konversation.
[02:06] <fritsch> RawSewage: no problem ... have fun
[02:06] <steven> Gah.
[02:06] <fritsch> i am currently using ksirc
[02:06] <smoq> thanx
[02:06] <nEcrodamos> konversation also works fine
[02:06] <steven> Meh.
[02:06] <I_Eat_Plastic> irssi <3 lol
[02:06] <fritsch> it`s okay for chatting, but konversation is the dapper standard
[02:06] <steven> It's just personal opinion.
[02:06] <fritsch> yes
[02:06] <ubuntu> how do i install java in kubuntu ?
[02:07] <steven> I_Eat_Plastic: I tried using IRC in Terminal, but I'd always close the window and go "DAMNIT!"
[02:07] <ubuntu> how do i install java in kubuntu ?
[02:07] <smoq> 10 minutes ago, I've install konversation
[02:07] <smoq> :D
[02:07] <I_Eat_Plastic> ubuntu: I have the same problem.
[02:07] <steven> ubuntu: Google the Ubuntuforums.org for Automatix. That will help you.
[02:07] <ubuntu> thx
[02:07] <nEcrodamos> automatix is realy good
[02:07] <I_Eat_Plastic> I actually came here with an issue with Java, anyone mind helping?
[02:07] <steven> Love it. That's what I'm doing right now.
[02:07] <diego_cl> Ace2007: I thing that my brother was viewing that website... and he didn't know linux... maybe he crashed the computer! can I erase some folder to fix that ?
[02:08] <Ace2007> if you delete .kde then all of kde's settings will be gone
[02:09] <noiesmo> I heard automatix is crap and people have lots of problems
[02:09] <I_Eat_Plastic> Everything I try to install / uninstall, or do anything that makes any change to my system, Adept always gives me an issue while processing "sun-java5-doc"... After this Adept give me an error box and takes me back to the main screen.
[02:09] <steven> noiesmo: Then they should post that in Ubuntuforums.org and tell the Developers.
[02:10] <steven> Common Sense regins in again!
[02:10] <steven> VICTORY!
[02:10] <diego_cl> Ace2007: can you tell me which folders from .KDE can I erase ?
[02:10] <steven> diego_cl: I think .kde is a file.
[02:10] <fritsch> steven: no, it`s a direcotry
[02:10] <diego_cl> :o
[02:10] <steven> Oh.  Like so much time has passed that....your kaput.
[02:14] <steven> You know, End of Story. Connection Reset by Peer. Pipe Broken. Processor overheat.
[02:14] <steven> Dead.
[02:14] <dhq> hey the most of pakages availible are not there in my adept
[02:14] <|lostbyte|> !repos
[02:14] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:15] <|lostbyte|> dhq, ^^
[02:15] <steven> Oooooh.
[02:15] <diego_cl> Ace2007: i found the problem!  (i think)
[02:15] <steven> Gotten frisky with the remote commands, eh?
[02:15] <Ace2007> diego_cl: what was it?
[02:15] <diego_cl> Ace2007: there was some files that i erased from the temp folder in ~/.KDE/
[02:16] <Ace2007> diego_cl: so you erased the whole thing so that kde will be forced to start with a fresh working config?
[02:16] <diego_cl> Ace2007: but im not 100% sure, know im going to reboot, THANKS!
[02:17] <diego_cl> Ace2007: no, i only erased 3 files from...
[02:17] <fritsch> diego_cl: reboot only if you change your kernel :-) linux != windows
[02:17] <dhq> |lostbyte|: so to get all the packages in my adept what do i have to do
[02:17] <|lostbyte|> dhq, Read the links ubotu GAve, will help you understand..
[02:18] <diego_cl> Ace2007: .kde/tmp-salita/
[02:18] <dhq> |lostbyte|: i read but  dont seem to undersatn
[02:19] <diego_cl> Ace2007: salita is my computer name
[02:19] <|lostbyte|> Which part you didt understand ?
[02:20] <Ace2007> diego_cl: yea i looked in there, all i had was two crash logs and ksycoca
[02:21] <diego_cl> Ace2007: yes, me too
[02:21] <Ace2007> diego_cl: so did it fix it?
[02:21] <diego_cl> Ace2007: and the two crash logs are from the webstite tha open it when i login
[02:21] <steven> Hey, how do I set keyboard shortcuts in KDE?
[02:22] <diego_cl> Ace2007: i dont know yet, i have to reboot
[02:22] <|lostbyte|> dhq, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:23] <Ace2007> steven: kcontrol > Regional and Accessibility and go into Keyboard Shortcuts
[02:23] <Ace2007> steven: go into input actions instead
[02:24] <Ace2007> and add a new action
[02:25] <steven> Ace, and that is where?
[02:25] <steven> >.>
[02:29] <slow-motion> hallo
[02:29] <Ace2007> steven: kcontrol? just press Alt+F2 and type in kcontrol
[02:29] <Ace2007> steven: kcontrol > Regional and Accessibility and go into input actions
[02:29] <steven> Got it.
[02:29] <derlinuxanf> dir kann mir einer helfen habe hier ein packet entpackt und jetzt will ich es installieren
[02:30] <steven> derlinuxanf: English.
[02:30] <derlinuxanf> deutsch
[02:30] <derlinuxanf> wie kann ich privat schreiben
[02:30] <steven> English?
[02:30] <grothesk_> derlinuxanf: join kubuntu-de
[02:30] <steven> Thanks grothesk_
[02:34] <wombatunder> hi
[02:36] <Ace2007> hi
[02:36] <wombatunder> I've got some ubuntu Q's, can you help? please?
[02:37] <Ace2007> so whats the question?
[02:37] <dimka> hello! I'm lost in ubuntu's site. Please anyone point me to howto on installing binary nvidia in _kubuntu_ :)
[02:38] <Hobbsee> !nvidia
[02:38] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:38] <steven> Hobbsee: Wouldn't Automatix work also, for the more simpler route?
[02:38] <dimka> Hobbsee: that's for _ubuntu_
[02:38] <abattoir> dimka: most of the instructions apply for kubuntu as well
[02:38] <Hobbsee> !automatix
[02:38] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[02:38] <Hobbsee> !easyubuntu
[02:38] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[02:39] <dimka> abattoir: but there's no synaptic package manager :)
[02:39] <Hobbsee> steven: automatix likes to break things, unfortunately
[02:39] <Hobbsee> dimka: shouldnt matter.
[02:39] <steven> Hobbsee: Nothing bad yet, here.
[02:39] <abattoir> dimka: there's adept :)
[02:39] <Hobbsee> dimka: okay, substitute synaptic with adept
[02:39] <steven> Ran it two years in a GNOME enviroment, and now I'm running it in a KDE enviroment.
[02:39] <Ace2007> dimka: apt-get install synaptic
[02:39] <dimka> Hobbsee: thanks :)
[02:39] <abattoir> dimka: and 'gedit' w/ 'kate' if you come across that :P
[02:39] <Ace2007> dimka: sorry that should be sudo apt-get install synaptic
[02:40] <Hobbsee> Ace2007: well, that's the other possibility.
[02:40] <Ace2007> Hobbsee: i like synaptic for some reason
[02:40] <wombatunder> I'm running ubuntu 6 off a boot cd and firefox is telling me I need to install a java plugin but it won't do it on it's own and I can't work out how to do it myself. this is the first time I have ever used linux.
[02:40] <dimka> thanks to all :)
[02:40] <McScruff> wombatunder: open adept
[02:40] <Hobbsee> !java
[02:40] <dimka> one more thing: why kmail is missing in my Internet  menu???
[02:40] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:40] <wombatunder> what's that?
[02:40] <Hobbsee> wombatunder: ^
[02:41] <Hobbsee> dimka: it's under as kontact
[02:41] <dimka> Hobbsee: no, kontact is missing too :). And no way to get it separate?
[02:42] <Ace2007> Ok i'm off bye everyone :)
[02:42] <Hobbsee> dimka: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[02:42] <abattoir> dimka: kontact is under office
[02:42] <Hobbsee> abattoir: ahh...is that it...
[02:43] <abattoir> i guess :)
[02:44] <McScruff> bbl
[02:44] <dimka> Hobbsee: I'm novice, so I'll try it.  In repository multiverse, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386)
[02:47] <abattoir> dimka: you'd need to enable the multiverse repository
[02:47] <abattoir> !multiverse
[02:47] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:47] <abattoir> dimka: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu should be _kubuntu_ specific :)
[02:47] <dimka> abattoir: I checked that checkbox in easyubuntu :)
[02:48] <dimka> wow, ppl! So much info :). I'm off to reading it all ;)
[02:48] <dimka> see ya :)
[02:51] <wombatunder> Sorry, I'm being a bit dumb today, I didn't understand any of what I read in the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java. Does anybody feel like helping a complete noob one on one?
[02:53] <abattoir> wombatunder: firefox right?
[02:53] <wombatunder> yeah
[02:56] <abattoir> wombatunder: open a terminal/konsole and run 'sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin'
[02:56] <abattoir> wombatunder: after that, open up firefox, see if the plugin is installed and if it works
[02:56] <abattoir> i'm not sure if you need the JRE before that though
[02:58] <wombatunder> it said
[02:58] <wombatunder> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin/Reading package lists... Done/Building dependency tree... Done/E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-plugin
[02:58] <abattoir> !info sun-java5-plugin
[02:58] <ubotu> sun-java5-plugin: The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 64 kB
[02:58] <abattoir> wombatunder: enable the multiverse repository
[02:58] <abattoir> !multiverse
[02:58] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:58] <wombatunder> how?
[02:59] <abattoir> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:59] <wombatunder> hang on
[02:59] <wombatunder> will that work for ubunut?
[02:59] <wombatunder> ubuntu
[03:00] <abattoir> ubuntu and kubuntu share the same base... for Ubuntu, the default desktop environment is Gnome, while for Kubuntu it is KDE
[03:01] <wombatunder> ok
[03:01] <Tm_T> hi abattoir :)
[03:01] <abattoir> so, while there'd be some minor differences, especially different applications etc., but the core procedure is pretty similar :)
[03:01] <abattoir> Tm_T: hello :)
[03:01] <wombatunder> does kde deal with windows programs?
[03:01] <Tm_T> wombatunder: wine is what you're looking for
[03:01] <abattoir> wombatunder: as in Microsoft Windows?
[03:02] <wombatunder> yeah, sorry
[03:02] <abattoir> then as Tm_T said, wine is the program...
[03:02] <wombatunder> I've read so much over the last few days that most of it has become a blur :-S
[03:02] <abattoir> !info wine
[03:02] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[03:02] <abattoir> !wine
[03:02] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:02] <Tm_T> wombatunder: give it a time, and you will learn a lot
[03:02] <abattoir> these should get you started^^^^
[03:02] <wombatunder> that sounds familiar
[03:03] <steven> Everyone still here?
[03:04] <Tm_T> no
[03:04] <Tm_T> we are all gone home
[03:04] <steven> Thanks.
[03:04] <steven> :D
[03:04] <Tm_T> ;)
[03:04] <steven> I was actually messing with Guard Dog.
[03:05] <steven> Uhh...
[03:05] <steven> I have a 173ms lag.
[03:05] <steven> Yay.
[03:06] <steven> 95.
[03:06] <Tm_T> that's not much
[03:06] <steven> Tm_T: I know.
[03:06] <Tm_T> be worried when it's over a minute ;)
[03:06] <steven> I'm use to 80's to 95.
[03:06] <steven> Yeah, that'd worry me.
[03:06] <Tm_T> I'm too used to < 10s lags
[03:07] <abattoir> Tm_T: hehe, GPRS days?  I have some small ones lying around
[03:11] <abattoir> i guess a normal ubuntu install is around ~3 GB
[03:11] <wombatunder> just to install a boot of ubuntu?
[03:11] <abattoir> wombatunder: how much extra you'd need depends on you
[03:11] <wombatunder> is ther a page file or something similar? where would the additional apps need to be installed?
[03:12] <abattoir> wombatunder: this ofcourse comes with almost all common desktop applications installed...
[03:12] <abattoir> wombatunder: you mean what additional apps are available?
[03:12] <wombatunder> I can read NTFS but not write from linux is that right?
[03:12] <abattoir> wombatunder: there are thousands of packages... you can browse them at packages.ubuntu.com
[03:13] <abattoir> wombatunder: yes
[03:13] <wombatunder> what filesystem does linux use? FAT32?
[03:14] <abattoir> wombatunder: nope, linux uses more advanced filesystems like ext3, reiserfs and xfs...
[03:14] <abattoir> :P
[03:14] <wombatunder> not accessable from windoze?
[03:14] <abattoir> wombatunder: nope, unless you use additional software
[03:15] <wombatunder> so it is possible? I'm thinking dual boot 'cause the missus won't want anything to do with linux.
[03:15] <abattoir> wombatunder: yes, dual boot would be a good idea :)
[03:16] <wombatunder> can I change fat32 files from linux?
[03:16] <abattoir> wombatunder: yes
[03:18] <wombatunder> that would explain the cold shiver I got when i chose NTFS when I installed win XP ;)
[03:18] <drbreen> wombatunder: ntfs is the ev1l
[03:18] <wombatunder> so I'm learning
[03:19] <wombatunder> this might not be the right place to ask but, can you make a FAT32 partition bigger than 27gig?
[03:21] <wombatunder> I don't think I can actually install java.
[03:24] <wombatunder> I got an error
[03:27] <wombatunder> what does this command do? "rm -rf *" without the ""
[03:27] <dimsuz> wombatunder: deletes all files in current dir
[03:27] <wombatunder> I thought so
[03:29] <dimsuz> will apt-get install continue downloading or starts it from beg - if I interrupt it with CTRL-C?
[03:29] <abattoir> dimsuz: from what i have seen, it continues
[03:29] <dimsuz> abattoir: ok :)
[03:30] <dimsuz> !nvidia-glx
[03:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about nvidia-glx - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[03:31] <dimsuz> !info nvidia-glx
[03:31] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In repository restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8762+<IP_ADDRESS>-3 (dapper), package size 3963 kB, installed size 12240 kB
[03:33] <dimsuz> hmm interesting... ubotu said that nvidia is version 1.0.8762+<IP_ADDRESS>-3, and my apt-get is currently installing almost the same version, only with -1 at the end.
[03:33] <dimsuz> and I just updated
[03:33] <dimsuz> why is this so?
[03:35] <abattoir> dimsuz: you are sure about the kernel version, right? <IP_ADDRESS>?
[03:36] <dimsuz> abattoir: yes, in both cases.
[03:36] <dimsuz> after ubotu's comes "-3", my apt-get now downloads "-1" :)
[03:37] <dimsuz> abattoir: oh, am I clean enough? :) i've not very perfect english...
[03:37] <abattoir> dimsuz: of course, i understood you :)
[03:37] <abattoir> weird inded
[03:37] <dimsuz> abattoir: well, that's not a big issue. I'm just curious.
[03:37] <abattoir> *indeed
[03:38] <dimsuz> abattoir: maybe this is because i didn't do _upgrade_? I only "fetched updates" with adept.
[03:38] <jordan_> hi
[03:38] <dimsuz> And now try to learn commandline apt :)
[03:38] <Keddie> help, I downloaded and installed a kde screensaver, however I am using gnome. any idea how I can run the screensaver in gnome? I asked in the ubuntu channel, but did not get an answer.
[03:39] <abattoir> dimsuz: i dont use adept, but i think that is equivalent to 'sudo apt-get update'
[03:39] <abattoir> dimsuz: not sure... wait a sec
[03:39] <jordan_> anybody useing superkaramba
[03:39] <jordan_> ?
[03:39] <wombatunder> thanx for your help abattoir, I'll hunt down a spare hdd and do an install I think. later.
[03:39] <abattoir> jordan_: me...
[03:39] <abattoir> wombatunder: no problem :)
[03:40] <abattoir> jordan_: i'm familiar w/ it, even though i'm not using it currently
[03:40] <Teejay_wp> hi anybody had problems with skype when they installed it on kubuntu
[03:40] <jordan_> abattoir i looking for something like Dock in Vista
[03:40] <abattoir> dimsuz: why dont you try 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[03:40] <dimsuz> abattoir: appears so
[03:41] <Tm_T> ?
[03:41] <Tm_T> vista?
[03:41] <abattoir> microsoft gives its own names to already existing stuff...
[03:41] <Teejay_wp> I tried to call somebody but it said I had a problem with the sound device, the headphone and mic appear to be not on mute
[03:41] <jordan_> abattoir object dock, star dock ?
[03:41] <jordan_> toolbar witch program
[03:41] <abattoir> jordan_: stardock is a company :P
[03:42] <abattoir> for a dock, kxdocker is good
[03:42] <jordan_> something like MAc OS
[03:42] <abattoir> its not superkaramba though
[03:42] <Tm_T> abattoir: you should turn on MS translator -plugin to your irc-client
[03:42] <abattoir> !info kxdocker
[03:42] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.39-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 253 kB, installed size 832 kB
[03:42] <jordan_> abattoir thanks
[03:42] <abattoir> Tm_T: hehe... well, they call desktop widgets 'gadgets'...
[03:42] <Tm_T> ugh
[03:42] <abattoir> so i'd expect them to call something else a 'dock' and a 'dock something else :P
[03:43] <Tm_T> abattoir: I bet they make it as registered trademark or so
[03:43] <abattoir> Tm_T: of course, and say it is an *innovative* feature, when it has existed for so many years
[03:43] <Tm_T> exactly =)
[03:44] <Tm_T> oh I love the power of pullshit, err, I mean, promotion
[03:44] <dimsuz> abattoir: I want to do step-by-step learning :). I just installed kubuntu ;)
[03:44] <abattoir> dimsuz: sure, what do you want help with?
[03:44] <abattoir> dimsuz: installing nvidia drivers?
[03:44] <Tm_T> dimsuz: are you willing to use time and patience?
[03:45] <Tm_T> abattoir: I do
[03:45] <abattoir> Tm_T: well, then you can help him... if he needs help w/ that :)
[03:45] <Tm_T> yup
[03:46] <abattoir> Tm_T: btw, any idea on when Kopete 0.12.2 is expected?
[03:46] <Tm_T> abattoir: never?
[03:46] <abattoir> or is it .3
[03:46] <Tm_T> abattoir: 0.12.1 is latest
[03:46] <Tm_T> and no idea if need one more bugfixrelease
[03:47] <abattoir> Tm_T: oh, ok :)
[03:47] <dimsuz> abattoir: I'm doing it now :). I meant that I don't do dist-upgrade because I want to learn commands one by one ;).
[03:47] <Tm_T> I already have 0.50 working
[03:47] <dimsuz> abattoir: Thank you very much - you're very responsive! :)
[03:47] <abattoir> dimsuz: oh, ok...
[03:47] <abattoir> dimsuz: hehe
[03:47] <dimsuz> Tm_T: what do you mean?
[03:47] <abattoir> Tm_T: of kopete?
[03:47] <Tm_T> abattoir: yes
[03:48] <Tm_T> dimsuz: I mean, if you have time and patience, you will learn a lot :)
[03:48] <abattoir> Tm_T: hmmm, 0.12->0.50? :P
[03:48] <Tm_T> dimsuz: and have fun too :)
[03:48] <Tm_T> abattoir: well, 0.12 -> 1.0
[03:48] <dimsuz> Tm_T: ah, of course :)
[03:48] <Tm_T> abattoir: but 0.50 is pre-pre-preborkage of 1.0
[03:48] <abattoir> Tm_T: interesting, i heard k3b might do the leap too...
[03:48] <Tm_T> dimsuz: then if you need help, just ask ;)
[03:49] <dimsuz> Tm_T: thanks!
[03:49] <Tm_T> abattoir: Kopete 1.0 is planned to release in KDE4
[03:49] <abattoir> Tm_T: hmmm... so its still a long time away then...
[03:49] <Tm_T> abattoir: yup
[03:49] <abattoir> Tm_T: thanks for the info :)
[03:49] <Tm_T> np
[03:50] <Tm_T> abattoir: btw KDE4 is already hilarious
[03:50] <abattoir> Tm_T: heh, what do you mean?
[03:50] <Tm_T> crashy++ <3
[03:50] <abattoir> Tm_T: of course... :)
[03:51] <Tm_T> yes, but now it doesn't only crash all the time, I get some apps running too =)
[03:51] <Tm_T> ...before they crash
[03:51] <abattoir> hehe
[03:51] <Tm_T> Kate seemst to work pretty well
[03:51] <Tm_T> and Konsole is already in alpha
[03:52] <abattoir> Tm_T: you are running it in dapper, right?
[03:52] <Tm_T> yes
[03:52] <Tm_T> Qt: 4.2.0-snapshot-20060701 KDE: 3.9.02 (>= 20060717) Konsole: 2.0alpha
[03:53] <abattoir> oh, they already are using qt4.2
[03:53] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[03:53] <abattoir> BluesKaj: hi :)
[03:53] <Tm_T> abattoir: I run stuff inside KDE3
[03:53] <BluesKaj> hey abattoir, how's things ?
[03:53] <Tm_T> abattoir: so it's only single apps that does crash, not whole environment ;)
[03:54] <abattoir> BluesKaj: all's well :)
[03:54] <BluesKaj> good! :)
[03:54] <abattoir> Tm_T: aah.. so technically not KDE4 :P
[03:54] <abattoir> BluesKaj: i hope they are w/ you too :)
[03:55] <Tm_T> abattoir: yup, otherwise I could not do anything ;)
[03:55] <abattoir> Tm_T: do you actually develop something(in qt4.x) or are you just 'testing' KDE4?
[03:56] <BluesKaj> I'm fine, trying paste some synaptic update errors in pastebin but it's not responding very quickly today...it's not serious but it's a PITA
[03:56] <abattoir> not that qt4.x requires you to run KDE4
[03:56] <abattoir> BluesKaj: tried some other service?
[03:56] <Tm_T> abattoir: I test atm, will try developing as soon as I get myself to working condition :)
[03:57] <BluesKaj> what other service isthere , abattoir ?
[03:57] <abattoir> BluesKaj: you using pastebin.ca?
[03:57] <BluesKaj> nope .com
[03:57] <abattoir> BluesKaj: well, its closer home, :P so might work faster
[03:57] <Pupeno> is it possible to compile linux-source-2.6.17_2.6.17-5.16 only for my architecture instead of for all of them ?
[03:57] <BluesKaj> maybe .ca  will work , ok
[03:58] <abattoir> Pupeno: i had the impression that it'd only compile for you architecture... that being the point of compiling...
[03:59] <Pupeno> abattoir: nope, it generate packages for all the ubuntu-supported architectures.
[03:59] <Tm_T> =)
[03:59] <abattoir> Pupeno: oh, i didnt know that...
[04:00] <BluesKaj> ok abattoir, yer right ...here are the errors , http://pastebin.ca/105095
[04:01] <abattoir> BluesKaj: installing from an external repo?
[04:02] <jordan_> kxdocker is shit !
[04:02] <abattoir> jordan_: hehe... why'd you say that?
[04:02] <jordan_> abattoir too many reason :)
[04:02] <BluesKaj> yeah, I found some new repos cuz i screwed up my original sources list so found these that had several additions
[04:03] <abattoir> BluesKaj: i guess that explains it... try removing 'openoffice.org-help-en-us' package first
[04:03] <abattoir> jordan_: i use it, and find it to be good :)
[04:04] <BluesKaj> ok, will try that
[04:04] <Flosoft> hey
[04:04] <abattoir> jordan_: in fact i'd say among the docks i have used for KDE it is the best...
[04:04] <Flosoft> what do I need as packages to use NVIDIA
[04:04] <Flosoft> graphics
[04:04] <abattoir> jordan_: you could however try things like ksmoothdock and a couple of superkaramba solutions
[04:05] <Flosoft> I changed xorg.conf and replaced all nv with nvidia
[04:05] <jordan_> abattoir I'm looking for something like this --> http://www.stardock.com/products/objectdock/MediaGuide/index.6.jpg
[04:05] <Flosoft> and I installed nvidia-glx
[04:05] <Flosoft> but it doesn't seems to work
[04:06] <abattoir> jordan_: well, kxdocker is like that...
[04:06] <Tm_T> abattoir: I also will try to run/port KDE stuff to win32
[04:06] <abattoir> jordan_: it doesnt have tabs though
[04:06] <abattoir> Tm_T: for KDE4?
[04:07] <Tm_T> yes
[04:07] <Tm_T> it's been failure this far
[04:07] <h3sp4wn> Flosoft: I alway use nvidia-xconfig (just run it with sudo and it sets up everything it needs) you may need linux-restricted-modules for your kernel version
[04:07] <Tm_T> couldn't get even Qt patched =)
[04:07] <abattoir> Tm_T: because of dependency on X?
[04:08] <jordan_> abattoir no it in's. When I'm install him they have only one icon --> menu KDE and i can't add anything
[04:08] <Tm_T> nah, because MS Windows doesn't have proper bash-equiv
[04:08] <Tm_T> nor commandlinetools
[04:08] <Flosoft> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-386 is already the newest version.
[04:08] <jordan_> * no it isn't
[04:08] <abattoir> Tm_T: hmm, yes, dos hasnt been worked on since... hmm i really dont know this one..
[04:09] <abattoir> jordan_: well, you have to add icons..
[04:09] <h3sp4wn> Flosoft: why are you using 2.6.15-23-386 you should install security updates
[04:09] <jordan_> abattoir how ?
[04:10] <abattoir> jordan_: rt. click on the sys. tray->Configure Kxdocker
[04:10] <abattoir> jordan_: which version do you have
[04:10] <usergentoo> How could I find what my hardirve is doing it blinks exactly every 1min and 30 secs
[04:10] <jordan_> abattoir Configure KXdocker don't work
[04:10] <abattoir> if you have 1.0(0.40), then it might be the 'Configurator'
[04:11] <jordan_> abattoir I don't now, I'm use apt-get
[04:11] <Flosoft> Linux ubuntu 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Mon Jul 17 19:52:53 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:11] <Flosoft> ah ... restricted modules is out of date?
[04:12] <Flosoft> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-386 is already the newest version.
[04:12] <Flosoft> what else do I need?
[04:12] <jordan_> abattoir so what's the best version ?
[04:13] <abattoir> the latest is 1.1.4
[04:13] <abattoir> jordan_: anyways, 0.39 is good enough
[04:14] <abattoir> jordan_: do you see the dock?
[04:15] <jordan_> abattoir no, only one icon
[04:15] <abattoir> jordan_: and configure kxdocker doesnt bring up a window?
[04:16] <jordan_> abattoir yes
[04:16] <jordan_> abattoir yes, doesnt bring up a window
[04:17] <abattoir> jordan_: any other options when you rt.click the dock... i seriously dont remember the options in 0.39, tbh
[04:17] <abattoir> ??
[04:17] <jordan_> abattoir where i found 0.39 version ?
[04:18] <abattoir> !info kxdocker
[04:18] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.39-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 253 kB, installed size 832 kB
[04:18] <abattoir> that's 0.39^^^^
[04:19] <jordan_> abattoir I'm serch www
[04:20] <Flosoft> are the security updates down?
[04:20] <Flosoft> 99% [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[04:21] <abattoir> jordan_: also install kxdocker-data
[04:21] <dr_willis> it seems up for me
[04:21] <Flosoft> hmm
[04:21] <Flosoft> here it times out :S
[04:22] <jordan_> abattoir sudo apt-get install kxdocker-data ?
[04:22] <abattoir> jordan_: yes
[04:23] <dimsuz> hi again :). and what if some package doesn't present in repository? For example I need cmake-2.4.2, but apt offers an old cmake-2.2.3 version
[04:24] <dimsuz> write deb by myself? :)
[04:24] <Flosoft> what other packages do I need for nvidia?
[04:25] <Pupeno> dimsuz: I'd try to see if there's an edgy package that I would just recompile for dapper.
[04:25] <BluesKaj> abattoir, do you have repos list that is stable and relatively error free?
[04:25] <abattoir> BluesKaj: i have edgy... but source-o-matic should help
[04:26] <abattoir> !source-o-matic
[04:26] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:26] <dimsuz> Pupeno: don't understand what you mean (i'm a total newbie), but thanks! :)
[04:27] <Pupeno> dimsuz: if Kubuntu Dapper doesn't have cmake 2.4.2 because it is too new, then it is possible that in the next version of Kubuntu you'll have it. Since you are not likely going to just wait for it, then you could grab an unstable package and re-compile it for Dapper.
[04:28] <Pupeno> dimsuz: I'd go to packages.ubuntu.com and search for the package on edgy, then download the sources and re-build.
[04:28] <dimsuz> Pupeno: and how do I do that 'grab'? (Thanks for info!)
[04:28] <acojlo> a good chm reader for kde?
[04:28] <dimsuz> acojlo: kchmviewer
[04:28] <Pupeno> acojlo: kchmviewer
[04:28] <dimsuz> :)
[04:29] <dimsuz> Pupeno: thanks!
[04:29] <acojlo> do is read cyrilic?
[04:29] <Pupeno> dimsuz: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ , http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=cmake&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all , http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/devel/cmake
[04:30] <dimsuz> acojlo: yes :).
[04:30] <Pupeno> dimsuz: at the bottom: Source Package: cmake, Download: [dsc]  [cmake_2.4.2.orig.tar.gz]  [cmake_2.4.2-1.diff.gz]
[04:30] <dimsuz> acojlo: oh! error :) I don't know :)
[04:30] <dimsuz> acojlo: but it should
[04:31] <dimsuz> Pupeno: is it ok to rename earlier downloaded official cmake to "-orig" one?
[04:31] <Pupeno> dimsuz: download the last three files, put it in a directory and run: dpkg-source -x cmake_[whatever it is called] .dsc; cd cmake-[the newly generated] ; dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[04:31] <Pupeno> dimsuz: and if everything goes ok, you'll have the new packag.
[04:31] <acojlo> acctualy, it even does not want to open cyrilic chm
[04:32] <jordan_> abattoir right clilc menu dosen"t work
[04:32] <Pupeno> dimsuz: I wouldn't do it.
[04:32] <acojlo> I use some xChm but it is very slow
[04:32] <dimsuz> Pupeno: wow! great! And where should I put it? or just "apt-get install ./resulting-file"?
[04:32] <Pupeno> if you are missing something you'll need to install it.
[04:33] <Pupeno> dimsuz: you'll get a .deb, dpkg -i blah.deb
[04:33] <jordan_> abattoir What also to install ?
[04:33] <dimsuz> Pupeno: thanks again!
[04:33] <abattoir> jordan_: these are the only two packages really necessary
[04:33] <Pupeno> dimsuz: you are welcome.
[04:34] <abattoir> jordan_: can you try executing kxdocker from a terminal, and see if you get an error when you try to open the configuration tool?
[04:34] <jordan_> abattoir how to open the configuration tool in terminal
[04:35] <abattoir> jordan_: no, open kxdocker from terminal... but the config tool normally... rt.click on the system tray..
[04:35] <abattoir> however look out for errors in the terminal
[04:36] <jordan_> I'm install ksdocker-configurator
[04:36] <jordan_> It's working
[04:37] <abattoir> jordan_: that package is in dapper?
[04:37] <jordan_> yes
[04:38] <abattoir> !info kxdocker-configurator
[04:38] <ubotu> Package kxdocker-configurator does not exist in dapper
[04:38] <abattoir> weird
[04:38] <jordan_> I have you want to see ?
[04:39] <abattoir> jordan_: you found it in adept?
[04:39] <jordan_> kxdocker                 kxdocker-gbattery        kxdocker-gtrash
[04:39] <jordan_> kxdocker-arpmanager      kxdocker-gcpu            kxdocker-i18n
[04:39] <jordan_> kxdocker-bluetooth       kxdocker-gdate           kxdocker-mountmanager
[04:39] <jordan_> kxdocker-configurator    kxdocker-gipcontrack     kxdocker-networker
[04:39] <jordan_> and 20 or 30 another
[04:40] <abattoir> jordan_: you mean the source packages in the official kxdocker site?
[04:41] <jordan_> abattoir I don't now but i have :)
[04:41] <jordan_> sources list i have from ubuntu.pl :P
[04:41] <abattoir> jordan_: i guess its from an external repo...
[04:41] <abattoir> oh, ok
[04:42] <jordan_> abattoir how to add new icon ?
[04:42] <jordan_> in configuration is poor
[04:42] <sophie_> ll
[04:42] <jordan_> configuration is poor :)
[04:42] <abattoir> jordan_: open the configurator.. see under which tab you see the K menu icon... and add new icons there...
[04:42] <abattoir> jordan_: yes, i'd have to agree w/ you on that one :)
[04:43] <nigno> salve a tutti
[04:44] <abattoir> !it
[04:44] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:44] <nigno> sorry
[04:45] <jordan_> in configurator i have 6 tabs but don't have Icon. Something is wrong I thing so
[04:45] <Flosoft> http://rafb.net/paste/results/qKPjdm70.html
[04:45] <Flosoft> why isn't this working?
[04:45] <jordan_> !pl
[04:45] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[04:46] <jordan_> abattoir in configurator i have 6 tabs but don't have Icon. Something is wrong I thing so
[04:47] <abattoir> jordan_: hmmm, i dont remember the exact name(objects???), but see under which one you have the Kmenu... and add icons there
[04:47] <abattoir> they should appear at the bottom
[04:48] <abattoir> jordan_: ok, have to go now, if you dont like kxdocker, you can check out ksmoothdock... or more docks at kde-look.org and kde-apps.org
[04:49] <jordan_> How to remove all kxdocker-xxx ?:]
[04:50] <osh_> Hi. I've got a package that I can't remove for some reason. dpkg --force-all -r doesn't work either. Anyone who can help with this?
[04:51] <octan> hi all
[04:51] <octan> anyone here using Xgl & compiz ?
[04:52] <osh_> octan: I'd like to but it appears that I have to choose between suspend and xgl/compiz and suspend is much more useful for me.
[04:52] <sophie_> octan: tried it liked it for a while, was unstable and after you get over theype you remove it
[04:52] <octan> osh_, im using it.. i only woundring about 1 thing,
[04:53] <sophie_> osh_: suspend or xgl not compatible with my system lol
[04:53] <octan> how do i get diff wallpapers on the viewports?
[04:53] <Flosoft> I can't get nvidia to run :S
[04:53] <Flosoft> it worked before :S
[04:53] <arepie> my wireless usb device didn't working, it able to scan the access point, but it failed to connect, when i "dmesg" i saw an error like "using an old driver", how to solve this problem
[04:54] <grothesk> arepie: Wich Hardware?
[04:54] <arepie> grothesk:  wireless usb
[04:54] <arepie> zyxel g-220
[04:55] <grothesk> arepie: Using ndiswrapper?
[04:55] <arepie> nope, i just install this kubuntu
[04:55] <osh_> sophie_: how come?
[04:55] <octan> sophie_, do you know how i can diff wallpaper on the diif viewports?
[04:57] <Dannilion> you stalking me Hobbsee?
[04:57] <Agios> if by viewport you mean desktop, yes, you can do that
[04:57] <Hobbsee> Dannilion: nope
[04:57] <pierluigi_> ciao
[04:57] <arepie> grothesk: do you mind in private msg
[04:57] <octan> Agios yes desktop.. i see from gset-compiz its called viewports
[04:58] <grothesk> arepie: No.
[04:58] <arepie> ok
[04:58] <arepie> so, i should install ndiswrapper?
[04:58] <octan> Agios, how do i do it?
[04:59] <arepie> download from sourgeforge and install ? or there's other way using any application from kubuntu >
[04:59] <grothesk> arepie: query
[04:59] <octan> synaptic
[04:59] <Agios> octan: system settings, desktop, background
[04:59] <jon_> hi people, my defoptions line in menu.lst is "# defoptions=vga=791 quiet splash" but vga=791 is not getting passed to the kernel, what should I do?
[05:00] <robotgeek> arepie: use adept
[05:00] <Flosoft> isn't Webmin in apt-get ?
[05:00] <Agios> you can set a background for any given desktop or for all desktops
[05:00] <octan> Agios i tryed that,, it only allows me to use 1 wallpaper for all desktops
[05:01] <Agios> octan: see the "Setting for desktop:" option
[05:01] <octan> where i used todo that i could select etc desktop 1 ,2 ,3 ++ but now its blank
[05:02] <octan> Agios, it says,, alldesktop or else its blank :\
[05:02] <osh_> I've got a package that I can't remove. Any ideas? I get this error msg: ERROR: Module hsfserial does not exist in /proc/modules
[05:02] <osh_> when trying to remove it that is.
[05:02] <Agios> how many desktops do you have ?
[05:03] <Agios> I have 8 and it lists all 8 of them there.
[05:03] <obf213> !suspend
[05:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about suspend - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:03] <octan> Agios 4
[05:03] <octan> Agios, are you runiing Xgl & compiz?
[05:03] <obf213> whats the difference between hibernate and suspend
[05:04] <Agios> octan: I don't know what compiz is
[05:04] <osh_> obf213: suspend is to write memory to disk and shut down completly afaik. hibernate leaves stuff in memory and needs current (but much less so).
[05:04] <Flosoft> anyone? isn't webmin in the dapper repo?
[05:05] <obf213> ok, but both leave the computer on?
[05:05] <osh_> obf213: not suspend.
[05:06] <octan> Agios, ok,,
[05:06] <osh_> hibernate makes the computer "sleep", just drawing some power to keep the memory intact.
[05:06] <obf213> ok, when i return from suspended i check my sysinfo and it said i had been up for 9hrs plus 4 more mns since last i checked
[05:06] <Pupeno> Flosoft: I think webmin is unmantained on Debian and was dropped. It is very likely the same thing happened on Ubuntu.
[05:06] <Flosoft> hmm
[05:06] <osh_> suspend writes everything to disk and shuts down completely.
[05:06] <Flosoft> is there any graphical interface for LVM ?
[05:07] <osh_> Flosoft: yes, i think so.
[05:07] <Flosoft> any tip?
[05:08] <osh_> obf213: well, that might be because the computer doesn't know it's been down. it resumes from the memory written to disk, just as if it's never been down.
[05:08] <osh_> Flosoft: i'm still thinking. i'll get it soon.
[05:08] <obf213> ok
[05:09] <osh_> Flosoft: evms
[05:09] <osh_> Flosoft: that's the one I was thinking about.
[05:10] <Flosoft> hmm ... but that isn't LVM?
[05:11] <osh_> Flosoft: doesn't it use lvm?
[05:11] <Flosoft> no ... evm
[05:11] <Flosoft> enterprise volume management?
[05:11] <Flosoft> isn't that something else?
[05:12] <osh_> Flosoft: not sure. I always thought evms was an lvm frontend. more or less.
[05:13] <osh_> Flosoft: it makes lvm2 referneces on it's page anyway.
[05:13] <osh_> Flosoft: http://evms.sourceforge.net/gui_screen/
[05:13] <osh_> And I still need someone to help me to remove a package. It just won't go away no matter what I do.
[05:15] <sophie_> osh_: what package
[05:15] <osh_> sophie_: conexant. something I installed to get the bloody modem working. not that it helped. :-(
[05:16] <dr_willis> !apt-get
[05:16] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:16] <sophie_> osh_: i see no package in repo name that
[05:17] <osh_> dr_willis: I know apt-get and dpkg. The thing is that it just wont deinstall.
[05:17] <Flosoft> does anyone know how to run evms-gui?
[05:17] <osh_> dr_willis: ERROR: Module hsfserial does not exist in /proc/modules <- that's the error I get and the package remains.
[05:17] <osh_> sophie_: I got it from www.linuxant.com or something.
[05:18] <dr_willis> now that is odd.. /proc/ is a dynamic filesystem..
[05:18] <dr_willis> coud touch /proc/modules/hsfserial
[05:18] <dr_willis> but thats getting really really really weird
[05:19] <osh_> dr_willis: /proc/modules is a file
[05:19] <osh_> dr_willis: well, not really but you know what I mean.
[05:20] <dr_willis> yea - thats very weird that the package manager wold be looking in there
[05:21] <ricardo> hi everybody....
[05:21] <ricardo> i have a problem here....
[05:21] <osh_> dr_willis: it doesn't make sense to me either. and I can't force it either. bloody annoying.
[05:22] <osh_> ricardo: welcome to the club. :-/
[05:22] <ricardo> my pcmcia wireless card (DLINK) works outta the box with kernel 2.6.15-23-386....but when I update the kernel or use the 686 version it stops being recognised....
[05:22] <ricardo> any ideas??
[05:24] <osh_> ricardo: have a look at what modules are being loaded. "lsmod". Perhaps it's that simple?
[05:24] <h3sp4wn> ricardo: Make sure you have restricted enabled for dapper-security
[05:26] <ricardo> osh_: ok ill check that (have to reboot)...what modules should I look for...and what do i do if they are not loaded?
[05:26] <ricardo> h3sp4wn: i think i have....but ill check that too...
[05:27] <themadscotsman> wat's the deal with edy knot
[05:27] <h3sp4wn> ricardo: I think if its not working with the newer kernel you don't have linux restricted modules for that kernel version (
[05:28] <osh_> ricardo: I have no idea. Make a list and compare them. If one is loaded where it works but not where it not works then try a "modprobe name_of_the_module"
[05:28] <ricardo> osh_: ok thx....ill do that....
[05:28] <osh_> ricardo: good luck
[05:28] <tux> irc.red.latina.org
[05:30] <ricardo> h3sp4wn: you are right...i have no restricted dapper-security whatsoever.....could you give me the address for that repositorie?
[05:30] <BluesKaj> !Repostories
[05:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about Repostories - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:30] <BluesKaj> !sources list
[05:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about sources list - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:31] <h3sp4wn> ricardo: just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add restricted after main and it will work fine
[05:31] <BluesKaj> that factoid page sucks
[05:31] <ricardo> h3sp4wn: thanks!!
[05:32] <pete_> need some help here, with getting my dvd to play in kubuntu, when i put the disk in the drive it flashes the DVD icon on the desktop then it goes off. when i try to play the dvd movie in kaffeine i get an error "the source cannot be read", maybe you dont have enough rights for this, or dvd does not contain any data
[05:33] <pete_> its not under the list in mount
[05:34] <pete_> anyone know what could be the problem
[05:35] <pete_> how do i find out what the name is of the drives so i can mount them ?
[05:35] <pete_> because  they are not under my mount list
[05:35] <pete_> dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[05:35] <pete_> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[05:35] <pete_> /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[05:35] <pete_> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)
[05:36] <pete_> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw)
[05:36] <pete_> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[05:36] <pete_> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)
[05:36] <pete_> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[05:36] <pete_> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[05:36] <pete_> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[05:36] <pete_> pete@box:~$
[05:36] <pete_> see there is no drives :/
[05:36] <osh_> !tell pete_ about pastebin
[05:36] <jordan_> what conf edit for faster start linux ?
[05:37] <pete_> osh_: do you know how to find out the name of my cdrom and dvd if they are not in that list
[05:37] <osh_> pete_: try "dmesg". it's probably /dev/hdc
[05:38] <aurel> hey
[05:39] <osh_> Does this make sense to any of you? http://pastebin.ca/105309
[05:41] <Hawkwind> Anyone know how to fix this error:  http://pastebin.ulteo.us/14
[05:48] <Lynoure> Hawkwind: You'll get more answers, often, if you mention roughly what the thing is related to, but I'll take a look anyway, this time
[05:48] <Hawkwind> Lynoure: The pastebin has all the info
[05:48] <Hawkwind> It's an error on kdelibs-data.  I can't get it to upgrade or install no matter what I try
[05:49] <jim__> help! I just looked at my  installed programs and it shows that Opera is installed, however I cannot find a way to open the browser it does not show up in kde
[05:49] <Lynoure> Hawkwind: By a quick look looks like an error in the package, either kdelibs-data or ktorrent. If you do not use ktorrent, you can prolly work around it by removing that and possibly installing it back afterwards
[05:50] <Hawkwind> Lynoure: I do happen to use ktorrent, however, I can't remove ktorrent due to the same error
[05:50] <grothesk> jim__: Did you start it from konsole?
[05:50] <jim__> no how do you do that
[05:51] <Hawkwind> jim__: Type: opera
[05:51] <grothesk> Open up a konsole and type 'opera' in it.
[05:51] <Lynoure> Hawkwind: I'm not sure if --force-yes  would help. Probably not.
[05:51] <uniq> Hawkwind: what is the error did you pastebin it?
[05:52] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: Did you use checkinstall to install ktorrent ?
[05:52] <Hawkwind> uniq: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/14
[05:52] <rolando> the big question is
[05:52] <uniq> Hawkwind: checking..
[05:52] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Umm no. I wouldn't use checkinstall on my worst enemies machine :P
[05:52] <rolando> why is so complicated to manage repositories??
[05:52] <rolando> i have
[05:52] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Everything comes straight from Ubuntu repos
[05:53] <rolando> eb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[05:53] <rolando> deb http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper multiverse
[05:53] <rolando> but when i do sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs nothing happens
[05:53] <uniq> Hawkwind: try this in konsole: 'sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.4-0ubuntu1~dapper1_all.deb'
[05:54] <rolando> ive read so many things about editing the file sources.list
[05:54] <Hawkwind> uniq: Once again you have all the answers.  Many thanks :)
[05:54] <rolando> but that is not very clear
[05:54] <rolando> im supposed to uncomment the lines there
[05:55] <rolando> how can i find a certain package in a certain repositorie?
[05:55] <rolando> for example i want amarok 1.4
[05:55] <h3sp4wn> !info blah
[05:55] <Hawkwind> rolando: apt-cache policy <app>
[05:55] <ubotu> Package blah does not exist in dapper
[05:56] <Emess> ark opened a whole lotta windows and they wont close when i select close all,is ther a way to kill all teh ark processes?
[05:56] <rolando> Hawkwind: and where can i get a repository with amarok 1.4?
[05:56] <rolando> repositories where easier with mandriva
[05:56] <ccc_> rolando: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.1.php
[05:56] <ccc_> for amarok 1.4.1
[05:56] <rolando> ccc_: i read that already
[05:57] <rolando> ccc_: but didnt really work
[05:57] <h3sp4wn> Emess: ps aux | grep ark | cut -d: -f1 | awk '{print $2}' | xargs kill (something like that would probably work)
[05:57] <rolando> ill try again
[05:57] <uniq> rolando: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:57] <twisted2> Emess: try "killall ark" from konsole, thats shorter ;)
[05:57] <ccc_> rolando: just add the gpg-key as instructed, then add the apt source mentioned at the bottom in your sources.list
[05:58] <ubuntu> wat repos do u use for edgy
[05:58] <Emess> i tried that before, and i didnt work becaus ei spelled ark wrong, thanks lol
[05:58] <Emess> is there a way to install uicon packs when all you have are the icon pngs?
[05:59] <ccc_> rolando: and just ask if you don't understand how to do either part :)
[05:59] <ubuntu> i say chaps wat repos do u use for ubuntu edgy
[06:00] <uniq> ubuntu: archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted
[06:00] <ubuntu> ty
[06:00] <MilhousePunkRock> Re everyone!
[06:00] <uniq> hi milhousepunkrock.
[06:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Hi uniq
[06:01] <MilhousePunkRock> How can I possibly get rid of the CD-ROM icon on my desktop?
[06:02] <uniq> MilhousePunkRock: right click on the desktop -> behaviour -> icons (tab) uncheck the ones you want to remove.
[06:03] <uniq> .. make that behaviour -> device icons (tab)
[06:03] <Kr4t05> Why is it I try to copy data from a personal backup, and it takes forever?
[06:04] <Lynoure> Kr4t05: Hard to tell without knowing more about your personal backup. Where is it? What kind of medium? Tapes can be way slow, there can be issues with connection to the remote server etc.
[06:06] <Raito> how do I not use xgl? I need to not use it to run wine. (I don't know if I have it, is it default there on ubuntu or kubuntu?)
[06:06] <Blissex> Kr4t05: we are sorry, but out clairvoyant and telepathic advisors are all busy on other lines... :-)
[06:07] <sophie_> Raito: xgl is not installed bt default
[06:07] <MilhousePunkRock> uniq: Or rather: How can I have it appear only when I CD is in the drive? If that is possible...
[06:08] <uniq> MilhousePunkRock: same place.
[06:08] <MilhousePunkRock> uniq: And that would be "mounted CD/DVD/xyzD" only than?
[06:08] <uniq> MilhousePunkRock: you get the choices mounted and unmounted deviced. yes.
[06:08] <uniq> correct.
[06:15] <rolando> good amarok worked fine at last thanx
[06:15] <rolando> any1 with kubuntu and ipod?
[06:15] <MilhousePunkRock> That did not really work... But I deleted it now...
[06:15] <ricardo> h3sp4wn: thanks!!! im using the new kernel!
[06:16] <twisted2> rolando: yeah, me
[06:16] <rolando> twisted2: do you use amarok with ur ipod?
[06:17] <twisted2> rolando: i do ;)
[06:17] <rolando> good, how do you have to configure it?
[06:17] <twisted2> rolando: are you on dapper? it worked right out of the box for me
[06:18] <ninhertatil> can cause any problem using a mac keyboard with a power pc box ?
[06:18] <rolando> Media Device: failed to create lockfile on iPod mounted at /media/sda3: Sistema de solo lectura
[06:18] <rolando> thats the error message i get when trying to connect
[06:19] <rolando> only read system
[06:19] <rolando> twisted2: i just installed the version in the kubuntu download site
[06:20] <twisted2> rolando: that's 1.4.1, right? i had that error once, when i didn't "safely removed" the ipod and reconnected it
[06:20] <rolando> twisted2:  right
[06:20] <klerfayt> desktop freezed first time yesterday, but I forgot to cp ~/.xsessionerrors before ctrl_alt_backspace - are there some more logs that could have saved error messages?
[06:20] <rolando> twisted2: then i shuold remove it safely and everything should work fine?
[06:21] <twisted2> rolando: try it, for me only a restart of kde worked, then ;)
[06:22] <rolando> twisted2:
[06:23] <rolando> twisted2: yes because i tried once again the same error
[06:23] <rolando> ill try that thenx
[06:23] <rolando> thanx
[06:25] <twisted2> rolando: i'm afraid i cant help you.. for it just works, sorry ;)
[06:26] <Jack12> hi whats wrong if i get (from a protected) dvd with totem there is no plugin to handle the dvd?
[06:27] <Jack12> it should actually as i followed the wiki how to make them playable
[06:28] <klerfayt> What could be wrong here? http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/273/snapshot3hj3.png
[06:31] <MilhousePunkRock> Does anyone know a set of sounds with a female voice saying stuff like "initiating shutdown sequence" in a slightly spacy manner?
[06:32] <chenlevy> Hi, all
[06:33] <chenlevy> I am here to update you about my recent konqueror wows
[06:34] <chenlevy> I found out that I had a memory error (1 bit in ~883.1MB and 1 bit in ~964.8MB(
[06:34] <chenlevy> So the KDE developers are in the clear.
[06:34] <chenlevy> Thank you everybody for your help resolving this problem.
[06:36] <ricardo> does enybody know how to multi rename directories names?
[06:37] <chenlevy> Special thanks for fritsch for his help.
[06:37] <sophie_> ricardo: can you give me an exemple
[06:38] <jordan_> how to change Ip and MAC in terminal ?
[06:38] <sophie_> jordan_: Why would you change MAC (spoofing?)
[06:39] <jordan_> something like that :)
[06:39] <sophie_> !ubotu ifconfig
[06:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about ifconfig - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[06:39] <ricardo> sophie_: i have a tree plenty of dirs and i want to change caps for instance...or replace certain characters...
[06:39] <MilhousePunkRock> ricardo: Looks like someone stole some music from the web, huh? ;-)
[06:40] <sophie_> ricardo: do you want to work from the command line or GUI: cli have a look at rename and GUI krename has lots of plugins
[06:41] <jordan_> I can't found  ifconfing
[06:41] <oellinas> hello
[06:41] <oellinas> does anybody know hoew to integrate kmplayer into firefox?
[06:41] <sophie_> jordan_: I am 100% sure ufconfig is installed it is command line
[06:42] <ricardo> MilhousePunkRock: i swear ...it is just work directories (i dont care renaming music dirs ;op)
[06:42] <ricardo> sophie_: thanks..ill try that!
[06:42] <sophie_> oellinas: sudo apt-get install mplayerplug-in
[06:42] <MilhousePunkRock> ricardo: As if I would care anyway, but I know that music from the web often times comes with weird filenaming schemes... ;-)
[06:43] <oellinas> not mplayer, kmplayer. i already have mplayer plugin but it doesnt support many kind of streaming.
[06:43] <sophie_> krename can rename mp3's using tag information
[06:43] <oellinas> kmplayer use also xine plugin
[06:43] <oellinas> *xine engine
[06:44] <sophie_> oellinas: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats you need to install codecs
[06:45] <oellinas> thanks
[06:46] <oellinas> seems i already have those plugins and with xine everything work. is mplayer that doesnt
[06:48] <sophie_> is mplayer that does not what
[06:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Does anyone know a place to download sound schemes other than kde-look.org?
[06:50] <bunny_> jo
[06:50] <bunny_> yo
[06:50] <oellinas> have plugins for mms streaming
[06:51] <ricardo> sophie_: krename doesnt allow to rename directories...just files...
[06:54] <alex__> hello everybody
[06:54] <MilhousePunkRock> OMG! Amarok can display the lyrics? Holy moly...
[06:55] <alex__> surprising isn it?
[06:55] <oellinas> just if u install the plugin for it
[06:55] <alex__> it is great in listening to the webradio!!
[06:56] <MilhousePunkRock> oellinas: I didn't use Amarok much before, as I don't listen to music much on the PC anyway... But I was just clicking through here, and that one tab said "fetching text" and bang, there it is...
[06:57] <ricardo> sophie_: krename doesnt allow to rename directories...just files...any other ideas?
[06:58] <sophie_> ricardo: im looking into it I was sure it did
[06:58] <MilhousePunkRock> Now I only need that /me is listening to: -thingy
[06:59] <ricardo> sophie_: ok thanx!
[06:59] <Flosoft> hey
[07:00] <Flosoft> is there a way to have the HDDs parked (stopped) or something when they are not used?
[07:00] <MilhousePunkRock> Yes, Flosoft... Laptop-Mode-Tools is what you want...
[07:00] <Flosoft> cool ... what is the dapper package name?
[07:01] <MilhousePunkRock> But it's not recommended for Desktop HDDs, they are not designed to be stopped and restarted often...
[07:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Flosoft: One second...
[07:01] <Flosoft> root@ubuntu:/etc/webmin# apt-cache search laptop-mode
[07:01] <Flosoft> laptop-mode-tools - Userland scripts to control "laptop mode"
[07:01] <Flosoft> laptop-mode - laptop-mode aims to reduce the power consumption of laptops
[07:02] <MilhousePunkRock> Flosoft: Great, you found it faster than I could start adept... I guess you need both of these...
[07:02] <Flosoft> hehe ok
[07:02] <Flosoft> is it configurable via a GUI?
[07:03] <Flosoft> ow ... it is installed apparantly
[07:03] <arepie> anybody know how to make ?
[07:03] <arepie> anybody know how to "make" ?
[07:03] <MilhousePunkRock> It's got a configuration file with pretty good comments... Don't think there is a GUI though... Flosoft
[07:03] <sophie_> ricardo: if you use the add file button look add the bottom left there is an option to add only directory names
[07:03] <MilhousePunkRock> arepie: If you don't know it, you better don't... :-)
[07:04] <Flosoft> or how do I set it up?
[07:04] <arepie> im trying to install wireless zd1211 driver
[07:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Flosoft: apt-get did that for you...
[07:04] <sophie_> ricardo: still there
[07:04] <arepie> MilhousePunkRock: wlan0 (WE) : Driver using old /proc/net/wireless support, please fix driver !
[07:04] <Flosoft> well ... where can I configure after how many minutes it parks the hdds etc?
[07:05] <MilhousePunkRock> Flosoft: You need to locate the config-file now in which you can alter those settings...
[07:05] <Flosoft> ok
[07:05] <MilhousePunkRock> arepie: That is beyond my knowledge... h3sp4wn, are you there?
[07:05] <ricardo> sophie:yes...ill try that...thx!
[07:06] <ricardo> sophie_: i was using krename from krusader.....ill try as you tell me...
[07:07] <ricardo> sophie_: i think thats exactly what i wanted.....thank you very much...!
[07:10] <Flosoft> is it enabled by default?
[07:10] <Flosoft> or where can I check if it is running?
[07:12] <MilhousePunkRock> Flosoft: There is a pretty good readme, let me look it up
[07:13] <tux> irc.undernet.org
[07:13] <tux> mexxico
[07:13] <Hawkwind> tux: Stop spamming please :P
[07:13] <tux> Mexico
[07:13] <arepie> !make