[00:00] <ctmjr> neohashi: run sudo nvidia-xconfig in a terminal then reboot see if that fixes it
[00:00] <th0r> h4f1: that should allow you to use two or more sound feeds at once
[00:00] <stefg> FloridaGuy: as i just found out gksudo is part of the gksu package
[00:00] <funkyHat> th0r: why is installing esound a good idea? esound is deprecated
[00:00] <linuxguy2009> Im creating a custom compilation 100% SVG icon theme, and Im wondering if anyone know if a theme is missing an icon for an app, does ubuntu look at a "fallback" set of icons to grab it? Like from Clearlooks or Human maybe?
[00:01] <th0r> funkyHat: I tried pulse and didn't like it...so went back to esound. I admitted already that pulse is the wave of the future...if you want to recommend it to him go ahead
[00:01] <Lostinspace_46> th0r coincidently pulse-rt is on of the fies that xmodmap is complaining about
[00:01] <h4f1> th0r: I have installed pulseaudio. esound is not even installed
[00:01] <FloridaGuy> stefg, and thats installed
[00:01] <civixier> Dr_Willis, thanks for responding. I tried using ./configure --prefix="</usr/local/lib/python3.0/> with the same result. It says that I should write where python is installed, isnt that the right place?
[00:02] <th0r> h4f1: if you have pulse installed you should be able to use two or more audio feeds at once...can't have both esound and pulse
[00:02] <stefg> FloridaGuy: so what happens if you run gksudo synaptic ?
[00:02] <nonewmsgs> is there a way to have fstab autoconfigure itself via a gui or an automatic set up?   i just added a drive
[00:02] <funkyHat> h4f1: which version of ubuntu?
[00:03] <th0r> h4f1: make sure all your audio apps are using pulse as the audio system and not alsa
[00:03] <yomm> pulseaudio is especially nice if you have multiple linux  boxes , only 1 needs to be connected to an amp , the rest connect via network to the pulseaudio server & play their audio over the network ... quite nice !
[00:03] <h4f1>  funkyHat:  904
[00:03] <Mx> Guys,guys! my sound just stopped working
[00:03] <andresmh> how can I make Ubuntu syncs the time with some kind of web service so it's always on time?
[00:03] <funkyHat> h4f1: is it upgraded from previous versions, or a fresh install?
[00:04] <Mx> how do I fix it
[00:04] <nonewmsgs> th0r, how do you do that?  i have trouble with a java app and k3b
[00:04] <h4f1> th0r:  wait so or alsa or pulseaudion or esound ?
[00:04] <FloridaGuy> stefg, Failed to run synaptic as user root.The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[00:04] <th0r> yomm: yeah....and you are using all those system resources for pulse whether you want a server or not...on every box
[00:04] <funkyHat> h4f1: pulseaudio
[00:04] <h4f1>  funkyHat: upgrade
[00:04] <stefg> andresmh: ubuntu uses ntp-sync by default
[00:04] <Mx> I am 9.04
[00:04] <GammaX> anyone know how I can set my video driver from nvidia to vesa?
[00:04] <yomm> th0r , you can easily disable the server side
[00:04] <h4f1> cause I use alsa sound, cause only that seems to support my microphont
[00:04] <stefg> FloridaGuy: so your user is not a member of admin / sudo group
[00:04] <th0r> yomm: you can easily disable pulse <smile>
[00:04] <funkyHat> h4f1: have you tried to fix your sound before (with previous versions)?
[00:04] <andresmh> stefg, where do you configure what server it uses then?
[00:05] <yomm> disables th0r  :)
[00:05] <linuxguy2009> GammaX: Why in the world would you want to downgrade your video to vesa?
[00:05] <Lostinspace_46> I don't understand why xmodmap needs pulse any way way.  But then again when I tried to pipe yesterday, klogd wanted my "Ham" callsign.  Go figure!
[00:05] <th0r> yomm: there may be a reason there are so many howtos on removing pulse and installing esound
[00:05] <GammaX> linux, cause i believe its overheating my laptop lol
[00:05] <funkyHat> h4f1: pulseaudio is a layer on top of alsa, so it should support all cards that alsa supports (there are some bugs though)
[00:05] <h4f1>  funkyHat:  the sound is working. but some time can't have two applications accesing the sound/
[00:05] <Mx> funkyhat:I have a sound problem as well
[00:05] <funkyHat> h4f1: can you check that pulseaudio is running?
[00:05] <FloridaGuy> stefg, i guess not sence i did alowd root access in advanced user mot on the netinstall cd
[00:05] <th0r> h4f1: Mx I have no sound problems at all <smile>
[00:06] <linuxguy2009> GammaX: If your laptop is on, its gonna get warm. Changing display to vesa wont do anything but make the screen look like crap.
[00:06] <Guest34901> does ubuntu have  ppc version?
[00:06] <Mx> need help with my sound
[00:06] <nonewmsgs> is fixing th sound problems a priority for 9.9?
[00:06] <rootlinuxusr> Guest: It does.
[00:06] <Mx> can anyone help
[00:06] <funkyHat> Mx: when did your sound stop working? was it after an update or something?
[00:06] <Guest34901> rootlinuxusr is it old or updated?
[00:06] <h4f1> funkyHat: Yeap it's running
[00:07] <GammaX> linuxguy2009, As I said before.... Its (over heating) my laptop. An nvidia 8600m puts out osme heat
[00:07] <rootlinuxusr> Guest: updated.
[00:07] <stefg> andresmh: it's in the time/date control applet
[00:07] <moymoy> GammaX: what's the core temp of your card?
[00:07] <Mx> funkyhat:it just stopped
[00:07] <linuxguy2009> GammaX:  Yeah thats what they do. You can use whatever drivers you want and the card still eats the same power and puts out the same heat.
[00:07] <Mx> I didn't update anything
[00:07] <rootlinuxusr> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/9.04/release/
[00:08] <rootlinuxusr> First link under Desktop CD
[00:08] <linuxguy2009> GammaX: Buy a lappy cooler thats about as good as it gets.
[00:08] <funkyHat> Mx: does it work if you reboot?
[00:08] <FloridaGuy> stefg, users-admin...has me..my user and root
[00:08] <Mx> no it does not
[00:08] <Balk> hi
[00:08] <Balk> for all
[00:08] <Mx> I dual boot with windows and my sound card works just fine
[00:09] <Balk> hloo
[00:09] <yomm> th0r : that reason imho is the same as there were  so many tutorials on how to build your nvidia driver ( in the old days  I mean :)  ) or anything else that requires a bit of tweaking and doesnt work 100% out of the box
[00:09] <stefg> FloridaGuy: then check /etc/sudoers if the admin group has sudo privileges. I don't know if that's the default if you choose to run a root account
[00:09] <Mx> funkyhat:are u there?
[00:09] <jeanrussou> Dr_Willis: it was my /etc/inputrc settings
[00:10] <linuxguy2009> Mx: What version of Ubuntu?
[00:10] <th0r> yomm: well....I don't subscribe to the 'one install does everything' philosophy.  My sound system should play sound on my computer...end of story.
[00:10] <andresmh> stefg, really? Where exactly? This is all I see http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/7541/screenshot1nkf.png
[00:10] <Mx> 9.04
[00:10] <yomm> th0r : that's exactly my point :)
[00:10] <Mx> linuxguy:did u get that?
[00:11] <linuxguy2009> Mx: Does the sound work in a live CD boot?
[00:11] <Mx> yes it does,isn't that funny
[00:11] <funkyHat> h4f1: who owns the process?
[00:11] <stefg> andresmh: not that one... in system> admin > time & date
[00:11] <funkyHat> h4f1: also what is the output of the "groups" command?
[00:11] <linuxguy2009> Mx: You might have a buggy update installed. I would recomend maybe trying the LTS release cause its had more fixes and patches etc.
[00:12] <Mx> how do I do that?
[00:12] <neohashi> need help with x11 error: screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration... yeah upgrade to nvidia 185.18.14 (via installer) killed acceleration.. running low graphivs mode at this moment.
[00:12] <linuxguy2009> Mx: ubuntu.com download the ISO for 8.04.3 LTS
[00:13] <th0r> yomm: I would be interested in knowing if removing pulse and installing esound fixed the issues for these guys
[00:13] <happosade> !download
[00:13] <andresmh> stefg, great! found it. i now realize i don't have ntpn
[00:13] <Mx> u mean 9.04.3
[00:13] <yomm> neohashi ; sudo nvidia-xconfig     & then restart your comp or your x server
[00:13] <linuxguy2009> Mx: There is no point releases for regular releases. I meant what i said 8.04.3
[00:13] <funkyHat> Mx: no, he means 8
[00:13] <neohashi> have tried that .. sudo nvidia-xconfig && restart did nothing
[00:14] <h4f1> any one know "how to ubuntu cluster" at least some tutorial or where to look for ?
[00:14] <yomm> th0r ; for multiple sound sources , don't they need to enable software mixing ?
[00:14] <Xodiac13> what is the wine irc
[00:14] <stefg> !wine
[00:14] <th0r> yomm: just install esound and make sure the apps use alsa
[00:14] <ctmjr> neohashi: when you said upgraded what driver did you have before that?
[00:14] <FloridaGuy> stefg, here's what sudoers says....   http://pastebin.com/m19fa05f0
[00:14] <GammaX> ubuntu is literally about to melt my laptop case lol
[00:14] <Guest30263> whats are some cool plugins for the desktop
[00:15] <Pandemic187> hey can somebody tell me how to install themes on xubuntu?
[00:15] <mohd> hi guys
[00:15] <linuxguy2009> GammaX: The operating system has nothing to do with how hot your hardware gets.
[00:15] <th0r> yomm: but installing esound automatically uninstalls pulse
[00:15] <mohd> i have problem with installing .tar.bz2 archives
[00:15] <mohd> anyone help !!!
[00:15] <mohd> please
[00:15] <ctmjr> !eyecandy | Guest30263
[00:15] <GammaX> linuxguy2009, obviously if its controlling it.
[00:15] <stefg> FloridaGuy: http://pastebin.com/m1a2081a4 is waht it shoul be
[00:15] <yomm> th0r : is that new since Jaunty ?
[00:15] <th0r> mohd: you don't install tar.bz2 archives
[00:16] <Pandemic187> can someone tell me how to install themes in xubuntu?
[00:16] <mohd> yes th0r
[00:16] <mohd> i still cant install it
[00:16] <neohashi> well.. not entirely sure.. 180.. the official one via ubuntu gui installer
[00:16] <Xodiac13> !wine
[00:16] <th0r> yomm: I guess...I was out of computer for a while (dead toshiba) and when I got the replacement i waited for jaunty before installing
[00:16] <linuxguy2009> GammaX: Dear god! Go download ANY other linux distro or install windows. Hardware uses a preset voltage and creates its own heat as a result. All OSs will do the same thing as far as heat goes. Has absolutley nothing to do with it.
[00:16] <Pandemic187> anyone?
[00:17] <FloridaGuy> stefg, replace mine with that
[00:17] <help`> why this warning come when i use pppoe: Jul 27 02:16:51 kad pppd[7785]: Warning - secret file /etc/ppp/chap-secrets has world and/or group access
[00:17] <stefg> FloridaGuy: yes.. i just added the needed lines
[00:17] <th0r> mohd: and how do you do that, do tell? You can install the contents....once you extract it
[00:17] <FloridaGuy> ok
[00:17] <GammaX> linuxguy2009, wow I wish u knew what you were talking about.
[00:17] <mohd> when write xvid this it goes ok
[00:17] <linuxguy2009> GammaX: Same here dude.
[00:17] <mechtech_ny> any other software I could use for gnutella?
[00:18] <yomm> linuxguy : and what about speedstep & cpu fan voltages & stuff ?
[00:18] <stefg> FloridaGuy: and make sure you're member of admin
[00:18] <mechtech_ny> other than gtk-gnutella?
[00:18] <ctmjr> neohashi: did you uninstall it first before installing the new driver if not you need to uninstall everything and reinstall
[00:18] <Mx> linuxguy:so u mean that the 8.04 is more stable than 9.04
[00:18] <mohd> but when write ./configure or make it say error
[00:18] <GammaX> linuxguy2009, a preconfigured OS has drivers wich set voltages... hardware doesnt control that.
[00:18] <yomm> linuxguy : that could very well be OS specific
[00:18] <th0r> mechtech_ny: did you try gtk-gnutella, limewire, azureus
[00:18] <linuxguy2009> Mx: 8.04.3 has had probably about 300+ updates integrated since 8.04 release. So yes.
[00:18] <Gnea> linuxguy2009: actually, your OS can determine how hot your hardware gets
[00:18] <mechtech_ny> GammaX: also often BIOS settings can control voltage
[00:18] <linuxguy2009> Gnea: lol
[00:18] <bonez46> why do some pages allow me to interact with the menu and hotkeys while others seem oblivious to hot key combinations and instead require mouse pointer activation?
[00:19] <Mx> ok
[00:19] <th0r> mechtech_ny: did you search synaptic for gnutella?
[00:19] <GammaX> mechtech_ny, agreed.
[00:19] <yomm> linuxguy : gnea is right
[00:19] <mechtech_ny> th0r: limewire for Ubuntu?  I have not...will try now...thanks
[00:19] <linuxguy2009> yomm: lol
[00:19] <Gnea> linuxguy2009: if I tell my OS to run a boinc client that chews up CPU usage, the fans are going to spin faster.
[00:19] <stefg> !frostwire | mechtech_ny
[00:19] <linuxguy2009> Gnea: CPU usage has nothing to do with OS choice.
[00:19] <mechtech_ny> stefg: thanks
[00:19] <th0r> mechtech_ny: If I remember right limewire is java
[00:20] <linuxguy2009> Gnea: lol
[00:20] <mohd> th0r i cant th0r can i pm u because i cant speak here
[00:20] <mohd> ok  ???
[00:20] <yomm> linuxguy2009 : Gnea : I'm more referring to how the OS hndles things like Intel's Speedstep , & variable fan voltages
[00:20] <Guest30263> why is y name Guest
[00:20] <GammaX> linuxguy2009, stop trying to "POWN" people and know the facts. I asked for help... not an noob reply.
[00:20] <mechtech_ny> th0r: I'll just give frostwire a try first...thanks
[00:20] <linuxguy2009> yomm: Thats all controlled on a BIOS level not OS level.
[00:20] <ctmjr> !stop
[00:21] <linuxguy2009> ctmjr: lol
[00:21] <Gnea> yomm: I haven't noticed any problem with variable fan voltages... not sure about the speedstep, though.. pretty sure it's not an issue, though.  lm-sensors is great at keeping tabs on it.
[00:21] <mechtech_ny> guest30263: because you need to register you nick with the server to own it
[00:21] <ctmjr> am not an op but making me dizzy
[00:21] <mechtech_ny> !register
[00:22] <linuxguy2009> mechtech_ny: Who cares who is registered?
[00:22] <help`> why this warning come when i use pppoe: Jul 27 02:16:51 kad pppd[7785]: Warning - secret file /etc/ppp/chap-secrets has world and/or group access
[00:22] <linuxguy2009> guest30263 I see
[00:22] <mechtech_ny> linuxguy2009: guest30263 might...see above posts
[00:22] <mohd> thooooooor
[00:22] <jeeves> how can I make a custom launcher for Gl_tail?
[00:22] <linuxguy2009> Yeah I see
[00:23] <mohd> tell me how to install this
[00:23] <kitche> Guest30263: most likely it's due to whatever client your using
[00:23] <Gnea> mohd: 'this'?
[00:23] <th0r> mohd: what are you trying to install?
[00:23] <linuxguy2009> jeeves: google is full of simple tutorials such as this.
[00:23] <stefg> help`: you should chown it to the dialout group and chmod it to 775
[00:23] <Lostinspace_46> My xmodmap is giving me problems.  Looking for permissions, most of which I can prolly deal with. The missing or moved files are a different matter.  The errorlog is here  http://paste.ubuntu.com/234129/  and I am pretty well stuck
[00:23] <mohd> yes gnea
[00:23] <mohd> yes th0r
[00:24] <yomm> ctmjr : what discussion are you referring at ?
[00:24] <stefg> !permissions | help`
[00:24] <th0r> !ask | mohd
[00:24] <n1lqj> is there away to turn off the local echo on stdin when running a program?
[00:24] <jeeves> linuxguy2009, thanks.
[00:24] <Gnea> !troll | mohd
[00:24] <help`> stefg got u
[00:25] <Lostinspace_46> A somewhat related question.  Session ID.  That refers to login and not boot, correct?
[00:25] <linuxguy2009> Gnea: Who is a troll?
[00:25] <trollboy> having a crazy driver problem.  I've got a device, that has the kernel module loaded, but its not being applied.  It works under puppy linux.  Here's what I see:  dmesg, lsusb from Ubuntu: http://pastebin.com/m5703d5f5   lsmod from ubuntu: http://pastebin.com/m3836152a   dmesg from puppy linux: http://pastebin.com/m3bee584d  lsmod from puppy linux: http://pastebin.com/m65452395
[00:25] <stefg> help`: thinking twice 775 might be not optimal... read the permissions factoid
[00:26] <Gnea> linuxguy2009: please see the description that ubottu just gave mohd
[00:27] <linuxguy2009> Gnea: Why do you hide behind ubottu? Be your own man. hehe
[00:27] <FloridaGuy> stefg, what format is sudoers supose to be?
[00:27] <Gnea> linuxguy2009: do you have an on-topic question?
[00:27] <help`> stefg same thing
[00:27] <trollboy> anyone?
[00:27] <stefg> FloridaGuy: plain text :-)
[00:27] <linuxguy2009> Gnea: Im not sure your a mod and can really do anything about it,
[00:27] <help`> stefg should i use sticky ?
[00:27] <Guest30263> how do your register your name
[00:27] <mohd> i see it gnea
[00:28] <stefg> FloridaGuy: you need to logout and back for changes to take effect
[00:28] <mohd> i have 2 eyes
[00:28] <Guest30263> can it be done from terminal
[00:28] <help`> stefg can u check default permissions with ur system?
[00:28] <Gnea> mohd: k, just wondering what you were trying to install
[00:28] <FloridaGuy> stefg, ...ok was just woundering...cloror of it changed when i saved it
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> Guest30263:  if you mean register your nickname here on IRC.. start with /msg nickserv help
[00:28] <stefg> help`: no... just make it belong to :dialout and make yourself member of that group
[00:28] <FloridaGuy> stefg, had to make it read/write in order to saved it
[00:28] <Gnea> linuxguy2009: that's okay, the channel is publicly logged.
[00:29] <mohd> .tar.gz2 archive
[00:29] <FloridaGuy> brb see what happens
[00:29] <linuxguy2009> Gnea: Please dont pretend to be a mod.
[00:29] <help`> stefg actually i'm using root
[00:29] <th0r> mohd: WHAT tar.gz2 archive?
[00:29] <Gnea> linuxguy2009: welcome to /ignore
[00:29] <help`> stefg and root is in the own files !
[00:29] <stefg> help`: bad system admin... no bedtime story tonight :-)
[00:30] <mohd> .tar.gz2 archive when try to compile it its okyes thor
[00:30] <th0r> Gnea: for some reason he doesn't want to tell us <smile>
[00:30] <stefg> help`: chown it to root:dialout and make sure it's not worl readable
[00:30] <stefg> *world
[00:30] <Gnea> mohd: what's the full filename?
[00:30] <mohd> but when write next step (make ) it bring error
[00:30] <Guest30263> thanks
[00:30] <yomm> mohd : the way to install 'this' is to do 'that' !
[00:31] <mohd> lame-398-2.tar.tar
[00:31] <Gnea> trollboy: do you have the same results from ubuntu?
[00:31] <th0r> mohd: that isn't an install problem it is a compile problem....try asking in #gcc
[00:31] <linuxguy2009> mohd: Whats your issue with your tar.gz file?
[00:31] <mohd> is this room ???
[00:32] <trollboy> Gnea, see my pastebins
[00:32] <trollboy> I got LSMOD and DMESG from both
[00:32] <mohd> tar xvzf package.tar.gz
[00:32] <Guest30263> nickserv register 92bud92
[00:32] <Gnea> trollboy: yeah, they're all from puppylinux. this is #ubuntu, can you provide the Ubuntu logs?
[00:32] <Gnea> !info libmp3lame0
[00:32] <FloridaGuy> stefg, thanks....everything works now
[00:32] <trollboy> Gnea, re-read I got both, lemme repaste them to you
[00:32] <Gnea> trollboy: ok
[00:32] <help`> stefg i did as u told me , there is no world user or group in my
[00:33] <help`> system
[00:33] <Gnea> trollboy: didn't see the dmesg from ubuntu
[00:33] <FloridaGuy> now gota run to store
[00:33] <stefg> FloridaGuy: np.... and next time just don't use a root pw
[00:33] <joh> Alright, I'm having serious issues with the live usb stick
[00:33] <trollboy> its with the lsmod
[00:33] <trollboy> one sec
[00:33] <joh> For some reason it mounts my main harddisk read-only under /cdrom
[00:34] <Gnea> trollboy: no it's not
[00:34] <stefg> help`: 'world' is a term for 'everyone' the last octet
[00:34] <joh> And I'm unable to unmount it because it's busy
[00:34] <arand> mohd: and version 3.98-0.0 won't cut it? (This is in the ubuntu repos -- way easier)
[00:34] <Gnea> trollboy: I see 2 lines from dmesg
[00:34] <trollboy> yeah
[00:34] <trollboy> that's all there is for it
[00:34] <Lostinspace_46> !offtopic
[00:34] <h4f1> joh: try --force or something
[00:34] <mohd> no arand there is another progs not found in repos
[00:34] <help`> stefg aha these are permissions : drwxrwsr-x
[00:34] <trollboy> I run dmesg -c to clear the buffer, I plug the device in, do dmesg again and that's ALL there is
[00:34] <Gnea> Lostinspace_46: is someone being offtopic?
[00:34] <stefg> help`: a chmod 777 woul mak a file 'world writable' .
[00:34] <joh> h4f1: umount2: Device or resource busy
[00:34] <help`> stefg okie
[00:34] <joh> h4f1: It just won't unmount
[00:35] <Sp0tter> I'm having problems setting up nvidia Twinview with my HDTV.  It only lets me use max resolution of 1024x768 instead of the regular 720p one of my tv.  I have read tons of forums and tried all sorts of things.. lots of conflicting info.. some day disabed the eide auto settings, some say enable them.. i've tried lots of stuff.. anyone have a solution they know works?
[00:35] <Gnea> trollboy: are you plugging it into a usb port on the system, or into a usb hub?
[00:35] <yomm> joh : or cd out of devices the directory... that prevents unmounting sometimes
[00:35] <h4f1>  joh: even if you're root ?
[00:35] <Sp0tter> using Ubuntu 9.04 with the revision 180 nvidia driver
[00:35] <joh> yomm: I'm not in the directory!
[00:35] <joh> fuser -m -v /cdrom displays nothing
[00:35] <Lostinspace_46> No, I saw that message earlier, and couldn't figure out what  the issue was
[00:35] <FloridaGuy> stefg, i know...guess who ever created mint linux...new how to set everything up for that
[00:36] <h4f1>  joh: are you trying to umount cdrom ?
[00:36] <help`> stefg same thing :(
[00:36] <joh> h4f1: Yes, /dev/sda1 on /cdrom type ext4 (ro,noatime,barrier=1,data=ordered)
[00:36] <trollboy> Gnea,  on which?
[00:36] <trollboy> I get the same output regardless
[00:36] <joh> h4f1: Why on earth is it mounted as /cdrom?
[00:36] <Lostinspace_46> I thought that command would give me the offtopic list.
[00:36] <joh> h4f1: The usb stick is mounted as /media/live
[00:36] <h4f1> joh: try eject
[00:36] <trollboy> ubuntu ONLY got it direct though, never through a hub
[00:37] <Gnea> trollboy: it's a usb device, right? are you plugging it into a usb port that's on the system, or into a usb hub that's plugged into a usb port on the system?
[00:37] <joh> h4f1: It's not my cdrom that's mounted under /cdrom, it's my primary hard drive!
[00:37] <joh> h4f1: For some reason, the usb live system mounted it under /cdrom without the option to unmount it
[00:37] <trollboy> Gnea, its a usb device, it is plugged directly into the ubuntu box
[00:37] <h4f1>  joh: funny. so how do you want it to umount if the whole system is working there
[00:37] <Gnea> trollboy: alright - what kind of device is it? phone?
[00:38] <joh> h4f1: this is a live usb stick, and I need to use it to rescue my main system
[00:38] <trollboy> GSM TTY device
[00:38] <trollboy> a modem
[00:38] <Lostinspace_46>   Session ID.  That refers to login and not boot, correct?
[00:38] <joh> h4f1: But I can't do anything as long as my primary hard drive is mounted
[00:39] <travlingeek> other then the net download can i install app from a cd what are the step by step if its possible
[00:39] <Lostinspace_46> I guess I just mean session.
[00:39] <h4f1> joh: shouldn't be mounted to rescue ?
[00:39] <joh> h4f1: No, you
[00:39] <Maira_LRB> Is there someone already used wubi?
[00:39] <joh> h4f1: No, it shouldn't but for some reason the live cd mixes the devices up
[00:40] <Mx> I am downloading <IP_ADDRESS> for installation to solve a sound problem in 9.04. pls is there nothing else I can do get sound in 9.04
[00:40] <joh> h4f1: I think it believes that /dev/sda1 is the usb stick
[00:40] <h4f1> joh: what exactly you want to rescue ?
[00:40] <joh> h4f1: My primary hard-drive
[00:40] <joh> h4f1: I need to run an fsck on it
[00:41] <joh> h4f1: But I can't as long as the stupid live system has it mounted
[00:41] <joh> h4f1: And I'm unable to mount it
[00:41] <coleys> joh: sudo umount /dev/sda#
[00:41] <stefg> joh: your bios might swap drives around to enable booting from usb... run sudo fdisk -l or cat /proc/partitions and see if your harddrive is on sdb now
[00:41] <h4f1>  joh: do you have gparted in live cd ? if so run it. there should be an option to umount
[00:41] <trollboy> Gnea?
[00:41] <Gnea> trollboy: looking
[00:42] <joh> coleys: umount: /cdrom: device is busy.
[00:42] <edge> i would like to put new music on my Ipod, what program would best work for doing this and creating new playlists?
[00:42] <coleys> edge: gtkpod
[00:42] <Gnea> trollboy: are you sure it's using the correct module? are there any other modules being blacklisted?
[00:42] <coleys> joh: You want unmount your cd rom?
[00:42] <hkdnz> Hello: I am looking to install ubuntu on my spare PC. The PC has two identical HDs. One HD I want Ubuntu on, the other one holds important data. How can I tell on which HD I will install ubuntu?
[00:42] <joh> coleys: It's not my cd rom
[00:42] <joh> coleys: sda1 is my primary hard-drive and is mounted under /cdrom
[00:42] <help`> stefg does this affect on my pppoe login ?
[00:42] <coleys> joh: sudo umount /dev/sda# #(CHANGE NUMBER TO PARTITION. THAT YOU WANT TO FSCK)
[00:42] <monkey2> I am trying to keep directories in sync between 2 computers in a real-time fashion, any ideas on how to achieve this. I have been trying lsyncd and incron, any suggestions? thanks.
[00:42] <coleys> o.o
[00:43] <coleys> monkey2: nfs?
[00:43] <joh> stefg: My hard-drive is /dev/sda1
[00:43] <monkey2> coleys: nope.
[00:43] <joh> stefg: The usb stick is /dev/sdb1
[00:43] <coleys> monkey2: rsync
[00:43] <trollboy> Gnea, its the same module that puppy's using
[00:43] <trollboy> Gnea, I don't believe its blacklisted,  how do I check?
[00:43] <coleys> joh: Go into live cd, and do it. =o
[00:43] <joh> stefg: /dev/sda1 on /cdrom type ext4 (ro,noatime,barrier=1,data=ordered)
[00:44] <stefg> help`: should not... it'S a waring that everyone can read or modify your pppoe login, but it should still work
[00:44] <joh> coleys: I *am* in a live cd, you don't understand my problem.
[00:44] <coleys> joh: Then you should be clear!
[00:44] <Gnea> trollboy: what I'm wondering, is if there's another module that's being blacklisted that it needs - usually in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[00:44] <Lostinspace_46> Is it considered bad form to autopost a question every 1/2 hour.  So that if someone has any advice they can leave a message?
[00:44] <monkey2> coleys: lsyncd is using rsync with inotify (but I run into issues when propogating changes bidirectionally)
[00:44] <coleys> Lostinspace_46: Whats your question?
[00:44] <h4f1> joh: did you try umount with gparted ?
[00:44] <trollboy> Gnea, no such file or directory
[00:45] <help`> stefg what's ur permission of ppp Directory ?
[00:45] <switch10__> coleys: he was clear. You came in late
[00:45] <stefg> Lostinspace_46: just imagine wht happens when 1327 people in this channel do this
[00:45] <Gnea> trollboy: is there anything in /etc/modprobe.d/ ?
[00:45] <coleys> switch10__: Thats his problem, not mine.
[00:45] <trollboy> yes
[00:45] <trollboy> one moment
[00:46] <Lostinspace_46> coleys  Huge..LOL.  xmodmap is giving me fits,
[00:46] <stefg> help`:-rw------- 1 root root    80 2009-04-08 08:53 chap-secrets
[00:46] <coleys> Lostinspace_46: How'd it happen?
[00:46] <Lostinspace_46> I have errorlog at http://paste.ubuntu.com/234129/
[00:47] <stefg> help`: ah, i see... only root shall access it, because the pppd is running as root anyway
[00:47] <help`> stefg got group and user root
[00:47] <help`> ?
[00:47] <trollboy> Gnea, the driver is not listed anywhere in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[00:47] <Lostinspace_46> coleys  Well some of it is due to missing files pulse-rc for one
[00:47] <volk> can anyone tell me why 'ls -lsaR > test.txt' has different input than 'ls -lsaR' when i check in the .txt file?
[00:47] <Lostinspace_46> pulse-rt
[00:47] <Gnea> trollboy: okay. what kind of modem is it? make/model?
[00:47] <Lostinspace_46> sorry
[00:48] <coleys> Lostinspace_46: When did it occur, after update or... removal of something?
[00:48] <help`> stefg change it to 600 permission and it work
[00:48] <boss_mc> volk, does ls use the stderr stream as well as the stdout?
[00:48] <volk> boss_mc: i dont know, how do i tell?
[00:48] <Lostinspace_46> This is the first time I have tried to use it
[00:48] <volk> boss_mc: i should mention i am doing this in /
[00:48] <travlingeek> if somebody would like to help me would it be possible to do it in pm
[00:48] <bp0> hello, im trying to follow the instructions at the bottom of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/86798
[00:48] <volk> boss_mc: all otehr directories run ls -lsaR perfectly why / has trouble running that command
[00:48] <boss_mc> volk: try ls -lsaR 2> text2.txt
[00:48] <trollboy> Gnea Multitech Systems MultiModem GPRS model MTCBA-G-U-F4
[00:49] <coleys> travlingeek: Just ask your question.
[00:49] <bp0> but im not getting very far
[00:49] <switch10__> travlingeek: what is your question
[00:49] <travlingeek> well im want to know iif  possible to install app from a cd and if yes how
[00:49] <trollboy> the drivers on their page: http://www.multitech.com/en_US/SUPPORT/Families/MultiModemGPRS/drivers.asp are NOT compatible with debian based kernels due to changes in the Debian Kernel Header USB file structure
[00:49] <Lostinspace_46> coleys I thought it would be easier to mod my keymap
[00:49] <volk> boss_mc: what does the 2> do ?
[00:49] <coleys> travlingeek: get .debs to the cd, and yes.
[00:49] <geirha> volk: &> text2.txt redirects both stdout and stderr to the file
[00:50] <boss_mc> volk: it's the same as > but for the second output stream (stderr)
[00:50] <xcdfgkjhgcv> I can't connect using VPN and can't figure out what's wrong.
[00:50] <volk> ls -lsaR 2> text2.txt or ls -lsaR&> text2.txt
[00:50] <volk> boss_mc:
[00:50] <th0r> xcdfgkjhgcv: you using network manager?
[00:50] <boss_mc> volk: either, try & first actually
[00:50] <Gnea> trollboy: well according to what you pasted, there should be a new device in /dev/ttyUSB0 or something like that?
[00:50] <coleys> Lostinspace_46: Im not really sure about problem to be honest, I havn't had similar problems myself.
[00:50] <xcdfgkjhgcv> th0r: Yes. I think I should check ufw
[00:51] <mechtech_ny> how to kill package installer please
[00:51] <trollboy> Gnea, yeah, there SHOULD be, and it is on Puppy linux, but no love on ubuntu
[00:51] <th0r> xcdfgkjhgcv: if you get nowhere and are grasping for straws you might consider switching to wicd
[00:51] <Lostinspace_46> coleys you have xmodmap working? Which ubuntu distro
[00:51] <jo> shoot it
[00:51] <th0r> xcdfgkjhgcv: don't know how it is with vpn, but nm won't do static ip....wicd will
[00:51] <Pizloz> VideoRam no longer does anything in xorg.conf how do i increase the video memory from 256 to 512?
[00:51] <Server_Side> how can i set screenlets to start auto when ubuntu does?
[00:51] <Sp0tter> I'm having problems setting up nvidia Twinview with my HDTV.  It only lets me use max resolution of 1024x768 instead of the regular 720p one of my tv.  I have read tons of forums and tried all sorts of things.. lots of conflicting info.. some day disabed the edid auto settings, some say enable them.. i've tried lots of stuff.. anyone have a solution they know works?
[00:51] <coleys> Lostinspace_46: I use arch linux.
[00:52] <geirha> Lostinspace_46: Why do you need to use xmodmap?
[00:52] <xcdfgkjhgcv> th0r: Do I need to open any ports?
[00:52] <th0r> xcdfgkjhgcv: not sure...let me check
[00:52] <switch10__> Server_Side: in session
[00:52] <Gnea> trollboy: hrm, and you're on 9.04?
[00:52] <volk> is there a command that shows how long another command took to carry something out?
[00:52] <Tfnrsh>  hey there i got a problem with bzr-gtk n bzr-notify here maybe u can take a look http://paste.arneburk.de/bzr_error.log
[00:52] <Server_Side> switch10__: how??
[00:52] <Lostinspace_46> coleys Ahh, see Jaunty changed some file names.
[00:52] <geirha> volk: prepend the command with time. "time command"
[00:52] <xcdfgkjhgcv> th0r: It's pptp
[00:52] <coleys> Lostinspace_46: Makes it alot more confusing I imagine.
[00:52] <volk> geirha: thank you
[00:52] <switch10__> System>prefs>session
[00:53] <trollboy> Gnea, yup, running 2.6.28-13-generic on this box (my test box) and 2.6.28-13-server on the box it will finally be deployed on
[00:53] <mechtech_ny> th0r: how to kill package installer?
[00:53] <th0r> xcdfgkjhgcv: port 1723 I think
[00:53] <monkey2> what can I use for realtime file synchronization between 2 machines?
[00:53] <xcdfgkjhgcv> th0r: Inbound?
[00:53] <Tfnrsh> rsync is nice
[00:53] <Tfnrsh> @monkey
[00:53] <Lostinspace_46> geirha, because I spent two days trying to find out where my defaylt keymap was using GTK
[00:53] <th0r> xcdfgkjhgcv: I would think both. and if you can enable ip protocol 47
[00:54] <monkey2> Tfnrsh: but it is not real time..
[00:54] <stefg> monkey2: rsync and a clever script :-)
[00:54] <th0r> mechtech_ny: what package installer?
[00:54] <geirha> Lostinspace_46: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layouts tab
[00:54] <Tfnrsh> ah ok i get the point
[00:54] <volk> boss_mc: actually 2> and &> differ
[00:54] <Tfnrsh> sry
[00:54] <mechtech_ny> th0r: frostwire
[00:54] <boss_mc> volk: 2> should have less stuff in it
[00:54] <volk> but boss_mc &> does the trick
[00:54] <trollboy> Gnea, thoughts?
[00:54] <volk> boss_mc: 2> yeah, why did taht have less stuff
[00:55] <th0r> mechtech_ny: is it frozen?
[00:55] <volk> boss_mc: and does &> print all the stuff?
[00:55] <mechtech_ny> th0r: yup
[00:55] <boss_mc> volk: there are two output streams, stdout (1) and stderr(2)
[00:55] <th0r> mechtech_ny: open a terminal, type 'ps ax
[00:55] <usr13_> mechtech_ny: frostwire is not a package installer, it is a p2p application.
[00:55] <volk> ok
[00:55] <Lostinspace_46> geirha: Perhaps I mis-spoke.  I want the actual file that kernel reads at startup
[00:55] <usr13_> mechtech_ny: You want to kill frostwire?
[00:55] <boss_mc> volk: > (or 1>) pipes out stdout while 2> pipes out stderr
[00:55] <th0r> mechtech_ny: and see if you can find the installer. If so, note the process number on the left side and then 'kill -9 #'
[00:55] <UnholyLessons> Can someone please walk me through installing iTunes on ubuntu. I keep having problems
[00:56] <boss_mc> volk: and &> pipes out all output streams together (there can be stream 3, 4, etc... in some programs)
[00:56] <mechtech_ny> usr13: nope, kill frostwire package installer
[00:56] <Lostinspace_46> geirha:  It doesn't read it at boot, I checked dmesg
[00:56] <boss_mc> volk: for some reason your command was using both stdout and stderr which is why you needed &?
[00:56] <boss_mc> *>
[00:56] <volk> ok
[00:56] <geirha> Lostinspace_46: Oh, the console mapping?
[00:56] <UnholyLessons> I just decided to use ubuntu instead of vista and now the most important application to get working is itunes
[00:57] <Lostinspace_46> geirha:  Yes...that..lol
[00:57] <Tfnrsh> im not sure about that but i heard of something called "heartbeat" perhaps it works for you
[00:57] <eb4bgr> hello, I need help about ubuntu 9.04
[00:57] <Gnea> UnholyLessons: itunes doesn't work in ubuntu.
[00:57] <Lostinspace_46> geirha:  My jargon isn't up to speed yet
[00:57] <UnholyLessons> Ive read a few help articles that says it does
[00:57] <Tfnrsh> can anyone help me with this bazaar prop
[00:57] <geirha> Lostinspace_46: I think you want the console-data package
[00:57] <UnholyLessons> what distro works with itunes
[00:57] <bruce89> none
[00:57] <uninverted> Anyone know how to make the Menu key a Compose? I tried "compose:menu" in xorg.conf, but that doesn't do anything.
[00:57] <fivetwentysix> UnholyLessons: UnholyLessons; why would you use iTunes? Unless of course you need some ipod support.
[00:57] <trollboy> Gnea?
[00:58] <Gnea> trollboy: that's a bit beyond me, I suggest making a post about it on ubuntuforums.org
[00:58] <UnholyLessons> I need to sync my iphone, thats the only reason
[00:58] <Lostinspace_46> geirha:  Which would be...?
[00:58] <Gnea> UnholyLessons: unless you can provide those urls, I doubt it.
[00:58] <A3K> Hello, I just did a reinstall and now my application audio isn't working. I fixed this once before really easily, but forgot how.  I seem to recall disabling oss...any suggestions?
[00:58] <boss_mc> !iphone | UnholyLessons
[00:58] <trollboy> Gnea, ok, I just posted it to the users mailing list as well
[00:58] <Gnea> trollboy: awesome
[00:58] <mechtech_ny> th0r: invalid signal specification
[00:58] <Gnea> !itunes + UnholyLessons
[00:58] <Gnea> !itunes | UnholyLessons
[00:58] <Lostinspace_46> geirha: I am going to set several shortcuts, and I need to get into the file to do it
[00:59] <Vubix> whats the command to navigate nautilus as root user? from alt+f2 ?
[00:59] <th0r> mechtech_ny: what did you type? kill -9 <process number>
[00:59] <Firefishe> How do I kill the current xserver session from terminal? One of my Firefox extensions just took touchpad control away from me, so I need to restart the server.
[00:59] <ctmjr> trollboy: this might sound grazy but i had installed  a usb remote control for a mythtv setup on ubuntu it seemed hal was grabbing the remote and seeing it as a keyboard and mouse before the drivers could load so i ran these to commands to find out what had the remote locked up mount -t usbfs none /proc/bus/usb to mount the usb devices and this to look at them sudo cat /proc/bus/usb/devices
[00:59] <Lostinspace_46> geirha: My left hand doesn't work too well
[00:59] <uninverted> Vubix: gtksu nautilus
[00:59] <Tfnrsh> okay another question is anyone facing problems using dav n svn on jaunty amd64 ?
[00:59] <Vubix> uninverted: thanks
[00:59] <eb4bgr> hello, I need help about ubuntu 9.04
[01:00] <mechtech_ny> th0r: typed kill -19176 #   <---just like that
[01:00] <Gnea> !ask | eb4bgr
[01:00] <trollboy> ctmjr, cat: /proc/bus/usb/devices: No such file or directory
[01:00] <th0r> Vubix: I think they use gksudo now instead of gtksu
[01:00] <geirha> Lostinspace_46: The package console-tools even. It contains commands to alter the keymapping for the console
[01:00] <Pizloz> this laptop had 512MB of video memory on the windows that came with it but only 256MB on my ubuntu installation. bios does not have a variable for it. it does not seem to adjust on its own either
[01:00] <uninverted> Vubix: gtksu X runs X as root
[01:00] <th0r> mechtech_ny: kill -9 19176
[01:00] <mechtech_ny> th0r...ok
[01:00] <Vubix> th0r: gksu works as well
[01:00] <geirha> Lostinspace_46: Install it, run "dpkg -L console-tools" to get a list of the files it installs, and read the man-page for the commands installed to /usr/bin/
[01:00] <ctmjr> trollboy: did you run this first? mount -t usbfs none /proc/bus/usb
[01:01] <th0r> Vubix: yeah...gksu works...but gtksu is there any more
[01:01] <Lostinspace_46> geirha:  Thank you very much.  I will try that.  I am always trying to learn more.
[01:02] <trollboy> ctmjr, sorry mounted it, I get this on the Texas Instruments: I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=(none)
[01:02] <trollboy> Driver none
[01:02] <Firefishe> How do I kill my current xserver session and restart it from an xterm?
[01:02] <A3K> actually, I think it was disabling pulse audio, but I have forgotten how I did it
[01:03] <Firefishe> Uhh....regular terminal session, rather.
[01:03] <Tfnrsh> try /etc/init.d/gdm / kdm restart
[01:03] <eb4bgr> ok, sorry.  i'm trying to load ubuntu copied to one folder into a fat32 drive as "mode" live-hd.  I'm using grub boot loader.  grub loads ubuntu, but don't load ubuntu desktop.  what's wrong at grub.
[01:03] <mattgyver> will wakeonlan wake a windows computer?
[01:03] <Firefishe> Tfnrsh: Thanks
[01:03] <Tfnrsh> its a certain protocol so its doenst depend on os
[01:03] <Tfnrsh>  q matt
[01:03] <trollboy> brb
[01:06] <Firefishe> Tfnrsh: One more question if I may?  May I run two concurrent x sessions?
[01:06] <stefg> Pizloz: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/boot-parms.html ... set a mem=512M in the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:06] <powerUser92b> testing
[01:06] <Firefishe> Tfnrsh: That is, is it possible ;)
[01:06] <Taft> Hi! My workplace switcher isn't working. This might have to do with disabling it in CompizConfig for 3D windows. Anyway I disabled 3D windows, I need to know how to enable workspace switcher again.
[01:06] <powerUser92b> Testing
[01:06] <th0r> Firefishe: no...only one X at a time, unless you count vnc sessions
[01:06] <Pizloz> stefg: tyvm
[01:07] <Firefishe> th0r: What is the technical limitation, in a nutshell, on running two x sessions?  I certainly don't know much about VNC.
[01:07] <Lostinspace_46> th0r I thought one had to use xinit to start an xsession??
[01:08] <Firefishe> th0r: by VNC, are you referring to virtual machines?
[01:08] <Tfnrsh> jep u can actuallay firefishe
[01:08] <eb4bgr> ok, sorry.  i'm trying to load ubuntu copied to one folder into a fat32 drive as "mode" live-hd.  I'm using grub boot loader.  grub loads ubuntu, but don't load ubuntu desktop.  what's wrong at grub??
[01:08] <eb4bgr> kernel /Boot/Ubuntu/casper/vmlinuz
[01:08] <cyborg>  i have 1 iso file and 1 disk. how can i check the disk? same as the iso file
[01:08] <eb4bgr> initrd /Boot/Ubuntu/casper/initrd.gz
[01:08] <Firefishe> Tfnrsh: That's what I'd like to do, what do I have to do?
[01:08] <Tfnrsh> or maybe but i think so
[01:08] <th0r> Firefishe: no...vnc is a remote connection something like remote desktop. You can have several connections via the network and each will display a working desktop. But locally you can only run one X session at a time
[01:08] <tanner2007> .
[01:08] <tanner2007> hey guys
[01:09] <Taft> Hey can anyone help me out?
[01:09] <tanner2007> how could i tell which ubuntu im runnign 64 or 32 bit?
[01:09] <Tfnrsh> google displays
[01:09] <cyborg> hi
[01:09] <Tfnrsh> oh well ok i was wrong
[01:09] <Lostinspace_46> Tfnrsh: You don't need to use xinit to start and xsession?
[01:09] <linxeh> tanner2007: lsb_release -a might tell you, or uname -a
[01:09] <Firefishe> th0r: Okay, I've not done two at once--didn't know it was possible or not, which is why I'm asking--but what's the reason no more than one local x session can be run?
[01:09] <stefg> !version | tanner2007
[01:09] <th0r> Lostinspace_46: you need to use xinit to run a local X session...but vnc I don't think requires it
[01:09] <th0r> Firefishe: have no idea
[01:09] <Tfnrsh> mh no dont think so
[01:09] <Pizloz> stefg: that appears to be for RAM rather than VideoRAM
[01:10] <cyborg> uname -a
[01:10] <cyborg>  tanner2007
[01:10] <Taft> My workplace switcher isn't working. This might have to do with disabling it in CompizConfig for 3D windows. Anyway I disabled 3D windows, I need to know how to enable workspace switcher again.
[01:10] <tanner2007> x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:10] <tanner2007> so thats 64 bit correct?
[01:10] <Tfnrsh> i heard somehting about that u can run different X on different displays
[01:10] <Tfnrsh> but im not sure
[01:10] <cyborg> looks like
[01:10] <Lostinspace_46> Tfnrsh:   So I could use xinit in the command you mentioned earlier?
[01:10] <Tfnrsh> to do waht ?
[01:10] <Tfnrsh> sry
[01:11] <boss_mc> Taft: look at keyboard shortcuts (in system->prefs
[01:11] <Tfnrsh> im kinda drunk
[01:11] <trollboy> ctmjr, still there?
[01:11] <tanner2007> thanks guys
[01:11] <cyborg> how can i compare an .iso file and a disk?
[01:11] <boss_mc> Taft: change the one called "move between windows, using a popup window"
[01:11] <luxos> burnas
[01:11] <luxos> buenas
[01:11] <luxos> alguien aki
[01:12] <stefg> Pizloz: oh, ok... VRAM is a different story... i lost track of all the changes in xorg, so i don't know. In the good old days (TM) you could set in xorg.conf, but nowadays it's not even necessary
[01:12] <Firefishe> th0r, Tfnrsh:  This is how I'm postulating:  Each X session is run on it's own Display.  The virtual terminal for most default X sessions is ctrl-alt-f7, by default.  What I was wanting to do was start another one in another virtual terminal.  ctrl-alt-f3, as an example.
[01:12] <cyborg> luxos   nem erteni  spanyol
[01:12] <tuxwulf> How can I make sure a module starts with certain options?
[01:12] <Tfnrsh> jep
[01:12] <Tfnrsh> uhm
[01:12] <Tfnrsh> vnc
[01:12] <Tfnrsh> ^^
[01:13] <Tfnrsh> i dont know any other way
[01:13] <Pizloz> stefg: indeed XD but i assume there must be a way to tell the system to use 512MB of VRAM if the original windows on this system was using it. very puzzling
[01:13] <boss_mc> Firefishe: startx -- :3
[01:13] <Firefishe> Tfnrsh: How do I use vnc to have multiple terminal sessions, then?
[01:13] <Firefishe> boss_mc: That will do what I want?
[01:13] <sagaci> hey guys, i know it's not in ubuntu 9.04 but is there a way to gain an animated boot sequence?
[01:13] <boss_mc> Firefishe: it opens x in tty3
[01:14] <Tfnrsh> its not that hard but i dont know sry
[01:14] <Firefishe> boss_mc: k, thanks.  I'll experiment.
[01:14] <boss_mc> Firefishe: it's been a while since I tried it, so no promises on synatx....
[01:14] <kn100_> OK mate has a problem, he is running ubuntu on a laptop, its using the drivers that came with ubuntu, thanks to there being no drivers in hardware drivers, but compiz works. but anyway, his screen keeps flickering
[01:14] <th0r> Firefishe: you start the vnc server with the command vncserver :1, or vncserver :2...all the way up to :9 if I remember right
[01:14] <Firefishe> Tfnrsh: K, I appreciate it. I'll do some rtfm'ing around and figure it out.
[01:14] <Tfnrsh> good luck
[01:14] <Firefishe> th0r: Thanks
[01:14] <kn100_> its hard to describe, but there are horizontal white lines going through the screen every now and then for a split second
[01:14] <Firefishe> th0r: I'll experiment a bit
[01:14] <dmsuperman> My gnome-panel is stuck, alt+click doesn't move it and neither does normal dragging. Creating new panels doesn't fix it either
[01:14] <boss_mc> kn100_: you got access to this pc?
[01:15] <th0r> Firefishe: virtual terminal F2 does correspond to F8 for X, but I don't think you can run them both at the same time
[01:15] <Tfnrsh> but vnc should do the trick
[01:15] <kn100_> boss_mc, no but i have the person on the phone, and he is VERY good at following instructions
[01:15] <Tfnrsh> thats the point i guess
[01:15] <th0r> Firefishe: you access the vnc connections by port number, :1 coirresponds to 5801, :2 to 5802, etc
[01:16] <th0r> Firefishe: it should be possible to open the vnc connections with vncviewer localhost:5801 and so on, and have several desktops in windows on the screen
[01:17] <UnholyLessons> whats the best bit torrent client for ubuntu
[01:17] <th0r> Firefishe: never tried it though...no guarantees
[01:17] <evanescent> is there any good OSS productivity software (I looked around google and turned up nothing). E.g. a way for co-workers and I to exchange chat/lists/doodles/charts/etc in real time integrated into the same application?
[01:17] <th0r> UnholyLessons: there is no best
[01:17] <evanescent> I guess it'd be called collaboration software more properly
[01:17] <UnholyLessons> well im using transmission, in windows i used utorrent
[01:17] <boss_mc> kn100: ask them to run "lspci -v | grep VGA" in a terminal
[01:17] <kn100_> boss ok
[01:17] <nelson_> hello, I got a problem in my 9.04. The "Locals" menu icons open VLC instead of nautulus. Anyone knows how to solve this ?
[01:18] <UnholyLessons> is transmission just fine for downloading torrents
[01:18] <amane> Anyone have some advice for mounting a Samsung phone
[01:18] <powerUserbud> How do you install songbird
[01:18] <UnholyLessons> once i mount a HD, where in the file system can i find it?
[01:19] <Firefishe> th0r: I did a:  startx -- :3 whilst on Virtual Terminal 3 (ctrl-alt-f3) and x started gnome up in ctrl-alt-f8.
[01:19] <th0r> UnholyLessons: where ever you mounted it
[01:19] <kn100_> UnholyLessons, media/ or mnt/
[01:19] <Firefishe> th0r: At least I know it's possible.
[01:19] <Firefishe> th0r: I'm not saying it's *practical* ;)
[01:19] <th0r> Firefishe: really? must be part of the new xorg....it wouldn't work in the old X
[01:19] <Jeruvy> powerUserbud: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Songbird
[01:20] <cooper77z> Hello, what would be a good way to temporarily disable gnome and run cinelerra from the command line?
[01:20] <UnholyLessons> Thank You
[01:20] <Firefishe> th0r: I'm running the latest 9.04 with all the updates and all the weird stuff ;)
[01:20] <lowlycoder> what's the quickest way to setup hadoop?
[01:20] <th0r> Firefishe: learn something new every day
[01:20] <Firefishe> th0r: True, we do.
[01:20] <Firefishe> th0r: Which vnc do I want?  vncserver, vnc-server, vnc4server?
[01:20] <eb4bgr> i'm trying to load ubuntu copied to one folder into a fat32 drive as "mode" live-hd.  I'm using grub boot loader.  grub loads ubuntu, but don't load ubuntu desktop.  what's wrong at grub??
[01:21] <amane> It's a Samsung Beat I'm Running Jaunty
[01:21] <th0r> Firefishe: I think vnc4server is the newest
[01:21] <Gnea> !info mobile-broadband-provider-info
[01:21] <th0r> Firefishe: but any would probably work.
[01:21] <cooper77z> how much ram does gnome use up to run?
[01:21] <th0r> Firefishe: but if you want remote connections there are two better choices....X forwarding via ssh and NX
[01:21] <Firefishe> th0r: is the package 'vncserver' a meta package for the latest?  Or doesn't that package work that way?
[01:22] <nelson_> how do I see the "Open with" options tab for folders as I see in the properties for a file ?
[01:22] <th0r> Firefishe: not sure...I installed vnc4server
[01:22] <th0r> Firefishe: and it installed vncserver
[01:22] <cooper77z> how do I make gnome stop running for this session only
[01:22] <cooper77z> how do I kill gnome?
[01:23] <Pizloz> cooper77z: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:23] <th0r> cooper77z: do you want a terminal session or to switch desktop environments?
[01:23] <kn100_> boss_mc, 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]
[01:23] <bruce89> cooper77z: you select something else in gdm
[01:23] <powerUserbud> why my keyboard keep beeping
[01:23] <Firefishe> th0r: I see.  Well, this is a laptop, so what I'm wanting to do is have multiple xsession open.  Now, to have them in a virtual gui-terminal on a common desktop--say, one terminal running xfce and another fluxbox, etc.--would be ideal.
[01:23] <powerUserbud> ?
[01:23] <kn100_> boss_mc, any ideas?
[01:23] <cooper77z> I just want to kill gnome for this session only and run cinelerra from the command line
[01:23] <Firefishe> th0r: spelling correction:  multiple xsessions open
[01:23] <boss_mc> kn100_: does he have these problems with compiz switched off?
[01:24] <th0r> Firefishe: you might also consider installing VirtualBox and running separate installs....you could run suse, winxp and redhat all in windows on ubuntu
[01:24] <kn100_> erm let me tell him to turn it off
[01:24] <kn100_> disabling the effects from 'change my desktop wallpaper' will disable compiz right
[01:24] <Pizloz> powerUserbud: try disabled "Play Alert Sound" in System > Preferences > Sound > Sound
[01:24] <cooper77z> thanks pizloz Iam going to kill gnome
[01:24] <Flaxi> Hi guys, I deleted the Ubuntu partition from my hard drive and now I'm getting error 17 every time I try to boot
[01:24] <cooper77z> just for this session
[01:24] <Flaxi> What can I do?
[01:25] <powerUserbud> thanks
[01:25] <gonzo_> nas
[01:25] <boss_mc> kn100_: I assume he's using jaunty
[01:25] <Firefishe> th0r: I have virtualbox installed--currently using it to run the new Palm WebOS sdk and emulator, along with Eclipse for program development--niiiice ;)
[01:25] <kn100_> boss_mc, course
[01:26] <boss_mc> kn100_: does he have these problems with compiz switched off?
[01:26] <th0r> Firefishe: yeah...I love it. For what you are trying to do you are probably best to try running several X sessions. vnc I think you will find too slow to respond
[01:26] <kn100_> boss_mc, i am telling him to turn compiz off now
[01:26] <Firefishe> th0r: I also have various ubuntu, kubuntu, SuSE, etc.  I'd probably install open solaris if I ran any virtual machine at all.
[01:26] <Firefishe> th0r: I follow
[01:26] <Firefishe> th0r: Thanks :)
[01:26] <th0r> Firefishe: I have solaris installed...but it is terribly slow
[01:26] <eb4bgr> good night, see you later.
[01:27] <Firefishe> th0r: Yes, at least in virtualization it is.  It runs fine natively.
[01:27] <Firefishe> th0r:  I mean, the Open Solaris live cd works just fine.
[01:27] <arif> what time is it in the UK? (checking system clock)
[01:27] <Flaxi> Ok I found how to fix it, but so I type "root (sdb,2)" or "root (sdb2)"?
[01:27] <kn100_> 1:27
[01:27] <arif> cheers
[01:27] <cooper77z> after I kill gnome with this command gksudo cinelerra start cinelerra?
[01:28] <kn100_> arif
[01:28] <Flaxi> This is in the GRUB terminal
[01:28] <arif> also, how do i direct responses to people like kn100 just did to me?
[01:28] <boss_mc> !tab| arif
[01:28] <Drknezz> Hi! Is there anyway i can disable Compositing with a hotkey? KDE4
[01:29] <cooper77z> can cinelerra run without gnome?
[01:29] <rww> arif: type their name at the start of your message
[01:29] <Drknezz> cooper77z: yes
[01:29] <arand> Flaxi: My guess is root (1,2) This would be sdb3
[01:29] <Firefishe> Drknezz: alt-shift-f12
[01:29] <cooper77z> what command will start it drknezz?
[01:29] <crazy2k> Hello.
[01:29] <Drknezz> Firefishe: Thx
[01:29] <Tfnrsh> ubuntu jaunty amd64 bzr-gtk doesnt work , stderrr smt like incompatible api << can someone help
[01:29] <Flaxi> arand: I made a mistake I need sdb1 instead, would that be root (1,0)?
[01:29] <arif> sweet, many thanks people. will try tab in the terminal now...
[01:29] <Pizloz> cooper77z: once gnome has stopped using the command i gave you you shouldn't use gksudo as it's for starting graphic applications
[01:30] <boss_mc> Flaxi: yep
[01:30] <Flaxi> boss_mc: Thanks
[01:30] <Drknezz> cooper77z: Just install it and run it, it MAY have gnome look, but it will run, no wonder you use kde/xfce ....
[01:30] <Drknezz> BB
[01:30] <edoceo> how do I start the setup in a different GUI mode?  Doesn't seem to like my monitor :(
[01:30] <arand> Flaxi: hang on, make thaat root (hd1,0) for sdb1
[01:30] <powerUserbud> my desktop is working now but something go wrong if I try to set desktops with CompizConfig
[01:30] <cooper77z> how then should I start cinelerra from command line withought gnome?
[01:30] <Firefishe> Drknezz: Had a compositing issue with kde4 (4.2.4 in my case) giving me an error saying compositing was too slow.  When it gets this testy, I just reboot in recovery mode, do a nice little fsck from the recovery mode ncurses screen, and boot from there.  Works nice that way at times ;)
[01:30] <Firefishe> oh, he's gone...pish posh
[01:30] <Flaxi> arand: Then setup (hd1)?
[01:31] <kn100_> boss_mc, the flickering apparently occurs every now and then, about every 5 or 10 seconds, just a quick flash of horisontal white noise, i have got him to disable compiz, and he is testing now
[01:31] <arand> Flaxi: I guess so, if you aim to install to mbr of sdb
[01:31] <cooper77z> drknezz, how much ram does gnome use up?
[01:31] <crazy2k> Does someone use wmii2? What is your "mod" key? xmodmap says "mod1        Alt_L (0x40),  Alt_R (0x6c),  Meta_L (0xcd)" but I tried with both left and right alt keys and none worked when doing Mod-T.
[01:31] <vijay> i just upgraded to ubuntu 9.04,my wireless is not working now,its keeps asking for wps password,any idea whats the issue
[01:31] <boss_mc> kn100_: sounds like the open source drivers on that card aren't good enough to run compiz...
[01:32] <boss_mc> kn100_: which is a bit of a bummer
[01:32] <nelson_> is there a portuguese support channel ?
[01:32] <Flaxi> arand: Well I'm really trying to remove GRUB and reinstall the Windows bootloader but I forgot my Windows password
[01:32] <kn100_> boss_mc, yeah, at least they kind of can lol
[01:32] <boss_mc> !pt | nelson_
[01:32] <cooper77z> thanks drknezz, I'll google the rest :)
[01:32] <kn100_> boss_mc, how can he composite without compiz?
[01:32] <Firefishe> On the subject of turning off compositing with alt-shift-f12 in kde4, will another, subsequent application of alt-shift-f12 turn compositing back on?
[01:32] <boss_mc> kn100_: unfortunately ati dropped support for those cards a few months (and one ubuntu version) back
[01:33] <boss_mc> kn100_: what does he need it for?
[01:33] <kn100_> boss_mc, a dock
[01:33] <boss_mc> kn100_: metacity can do compositing
[01:33] <kn100_> avant window manager
[01:33] <boss_mc> kn100_: but it's not great...
[01:33] <kn100_> boss_mc, erm how do i enable it?
[01:33] <arand> Flaxi: hum, I SuperGrubDisk can do that nicely I think, and there is tools on SystemRescueCD for changing your windows password...
[01:34] <boss_mc> kn100_: open gconf-editor
[01:34] <boss_mc> kn100_: go to Apps->metacity->general
[01:34] <boss_mc> kn100_: check the compositing_manager box
[01:34] <Firefishe> boss_mc: My P4 desktop of about 5 years ago has an AGP 256MB video card.  I tried using the Jaunty live-cd but it didn't have the ATI fglrx driver for it, so I just stuck with 8.10.  Working fine :)
[01:34] <boss_mc> kn100_: test away...
[01:34] <kn100_> boss_mc, thanks for all your help
[01:35] <boss_mc> Firefishe: like I said, they dropped support one ubuntu version ago, they all work fine in 8.10 (well, using version 9.3 which is ok)
[01:35] <boss_mc> kn100_: no
[01:35] <boss_mc> problem
[01:35] <monkey2> I am trying to exclude files that begin with a dot in any and all directories using rsync, I have put - .* in my exclude-from file, yet this doesn't work, any ideas?
[01:35] <storm-zen> Need help with sound.  ( Sigh. ) It's never worked right since gutsy.  I'm now in Jaunty.  It works for a while, and then it stops.  Then I reboot six times and it works for a while again.  I'd love to find out what this is and fix it for good.
[01:35] <nelson_> boss_mc: thanx
[01:36] <nelson_> hello, I got a problem in my 9.04. The "Locals" menu icons open VLC instead of nautulus. Anyone knows how to solve this ?
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> storm-zen:  you mean to say if you reboot 5 times - it wont work?
[01:36] <Firefishe> boss_mc: Are you saying that ATI dropped the support?
[01:36] <vijay> hello everyone,i just upgraded my machine from 8.04 to 9.04 and my wireless stopped working now,asking for wpa password again and again,anyone know whats the issue
[01:36] <Firefishe> boss_mc: Or ubuntu?
[01:36] <storm-zen> Dr_Willis: Surely you don't think I'm making that distinction.
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> storm-zen:  ive seen stranger things.. Ive had sound cards not work in Linux.. UNLESS i power off and boot straight to linux.. if i booted to windows and 'soft' rebooted to linux = no sound.
[01:37] <Pizloz> considering VideoRam does nothing in xorg.conf now. how can i increase the VRAM from 256 to 512 (the original windows i replaced on this machine had 512) when there are no bios options to change it?
[01:37] <powerUserbud> if theres a difference between a desk and workspace
[01:37] <powerUserbud> is*
[01:37] <boss_mc> Firefishe: ati have stopped developing drivers for 'old' cards, and the last driver they made runs on Xorg 1.4 but Jaunty uses 1.6 so no compatibility...
[01:37] <Flaxi> arand: Which would you recommend to fix this, changing my Windows password or fixing GRUB?
[01:37] <storm-zen> Dr_Willis: Yes, that is a bit stranger. :p
[01:37] <kn100_> boss_mc, o lord
[01:37] <boss_mc> Firefishe: so it's ATI's fault and ubuntu had to drop it to develop
[01:37] <Firefishe> boss_mc: I see.  Well, I'm glad my laptop uses nvidia ;)
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> powerUserbud:  you can have several virtual 'workspaces' I guess you can say. the current one you are seeing is your current desktop.
[01:37] <kn100_> well disabling compiz seems to have fixed it
[01:38] <kn100_> nvidia (o)
[01:38] <Dr_Willis> storm-zen:  yep. "plug and play' getting set oddly and not resetting.
[01:38] <boss_mc> Firefishe: indeed, I even bought a new card when that happened so I could use jaunty (which is btw, SEXY)
[01:38] <storm-zen> It just bugs me that i've tried to solve this one problem more times that I even cared to count.
[01:39] <boss_mc> kn100_: has he got compositing working?
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> storm-zen:  this is a laptop or desktop box?
[01:39] <storm-zen> I guess I haven't tried to solve it in Jaunty yet, though.
[01:39] <arand> Flaxi: I don't understan how those two things could be linke to the same issue?
[01:39] <storm-zen> Desktop.
[01:39] <kn100_> boss_mc am taking him through it now
[01:39] <kn100_> sorry about the msn lag
[01:39] <superdaniel49> i need help with changing the screensaver on xubuntu 9.04
[01:39] <Firefishe> boss_mc: I've got Jaunty on the brain, boss ;-).  Works beautifully on my Asus G50Vt-X1. The usual 4 gigs (of which I think it sees only 3 for some reason), and the nvidia 9800 GS chipset 512mb vram.  not bad at all.
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> storm-zen:   I suppose you dont want me to point out that you can get an ok Creative sound card for $30 ? :)
[01:39] <boss_mc> kn100_: he might find he get's the same problems... but metacity is much much lighter than compiz so he may have luck
[01:39] <LLStarks> what is multilib?
[01:39] <powerUserbud> Yesterday I was going through my workspaces but then I moved to a desk and everything except for my background dissapeared
[01:40] <storm-zen> Dr_Willis: No, as I've already bought a Turtle Beach one, for the same reason?
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> storm-zen:  so BOTH sound cards have the same issue?
[01:40] <boss_mc> Firefishe: 512Mb of your addressable memory space is going to your graphics card, and the rest to the kernel
[01:40] <kn100_> in the current linux kernel, is there a way to disable gui booting and have it display the text boot?
[01:40] <boss_mc> Firefishe: if you had 64bit you'd get your whole 4Gb
[01:40] <Flaxi> arand: The problem is, I had Debian installed on a partition and when I'd finished with it I formatted the partition to NTFS but now I can't boot because I get GRUB error 17 and when I try to use the Windows recovery console it asks for my password so I can't use "fdisk /mbr"
[01:40] <boss_mc> kn100_: the recovery console?
[01:40] <arand> kn100_: edit fstab, remove quiet and splash
[01:40] <storm-zen> Dr_Willis: It would seem so.  Though I haven't checked the (unsupported, although it looks like it is supported) soundchip since I got the card.
[01:41] <kn100_> arand, this is on a linux based phone
[01:41] <Firefishe> boss_mc: Aha!  So that's the culprit.  64 bit has it's own issues, too, I guess, being still so experimental, at least in linux (or am I blowing wind with this assumption?)
[01:41] <powerUserbud> Can flash 10 be installed on a 64 bit system
[01:41] <kn100_> i have the kernel source code which i can (and have) compiled and flashed to the phone
[01:41] <kn100_> is there a way in the terminal
[01:41] <kn100_> i can get a terminal from the phone
[01:41] <superdaniel49> powerUserbud: probably so
[01:42] <musikgoat|main> kn100_: usually you can boot to init 3 or another init to stop x from starting
[01:42] <arand> kn100_: oh... well you'd still need to edit the kernel boot parameters somehow...
[01:42] <Firefishe> boss_mc: Either way, I'd have to do a complete re-install, and I have *so much installed and configured already*, it'd be a shame to lose it all again.
[01:42] <boss_mc> Firefishe: it's been around a while, the big issue is drivers, they all need to be adapted for 64bit, most have been but some are still not done
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> powerUserbud:  I got flash 10 going on this 64bit system
[01:42] <boss_mc> Firefishe: that's always the way... *sadface*
[01:42] <Firefishe> boss_mc: Tell me this:  Does nvidia have a proprietary driver for 64 bit ubuntu jaunty?
[01:42] <powerUserbud> DId you get it from The Adobe sit. it said I had the wrong architecture
[01:43] <superdaniel49> Dr_Willis: do u know how to change the screen saver on Xubuntu 9.04?
[01:43] <storm-zen> superdaniel49: The screensaver, or the screensaver program?
[01:43] <boss_mc> Firefishe: I believe so, although the nvidia drivers are frowned on :) (they replace large swathes of the linux graphics system with their own, less efficient system)
[01:43] <kn100_> ok i can edit the boot perams
[01:43] <kn100_> i just found them
[01:43] <Xodiac13> i need help on getting the game openanno http://www.unknown-horizons.org/site/index.php?page=download
[01:43] <boss_mc> Firefishe: but on the flip side, the nv (open source) drivers are pretty sketchy
[01:44] <Firefishe> boss_mc: well, do the 64bit 3d linux drivers work?
[01:44] <LLStarks> what is multilib?
[01:44] <boss_mc> Firefishe: i use the proprietary ones
[01:44] <boss_mc> Firefishe: don't know, think so
[01:44] <musikgoat|main> Firefishe: my x64 nvidia 185 drivers work well
[01:44] <boss_mc> there you go
[01:44] <superdaniel49> storm-zen: the screen saver, u know like the thing that comes after a certain time of not doing anything
[01:44] <storm-zen> ( I guess I'll just try rebooting until it works again.  Who knows?  Maybe it's electrical... )
[01:44] <arand> Flaxi: Ok, if you don't plan on using grub anymore, I'd say go with reinstalling ntldr using supergrubdisk, that is a fairly easy process from what I remember.
[01:44] <musikgoat|main> Firefishe: suprisingly so
[01:44] <Firefishe> musikgoat|main: propritary or open source?
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> superdaniel49:  not a clue.
[01:44] <storm-zen> superdaniel49: There should be an icon for that under System somewhere.
[01:44] <Firefishe> musikgoat|main: proprietary rather
[01:45] <musikgoat|main> Firefishe: the proprietary nvidia drivers
[01:45] <boss_mc> Firefishe: 185 is proprietary
[01:45] <cooper77z> how do I know gnome stopped when I can still use it?
[01:45] <Firefishe> boss_mc: ah, I see..thanks for that clarifcation :)
[01:45] <superdaniel49> storm-zen:let me look
[01:45] <storm-zen> superdaniel49: System/preferences/Screensaver
[01:45] <Firefishe> boss, musikgoat|main:  Now I'm thinking of 64bit virtual machine creation ;)
[01:46] <dmsuperman> My gnome-panel is stuck, alt+click doesn't move it and neither does normal dragging. Creating new panels doesn't fix it either
[01:46] <cooper77z> maybe I need to log out first
[01:46] <superdaniel49> storm-zen: i'm on the xfce desktop
[01:46] <storm-zen> Oh yeah, why doesn't <ctrl><alt><backspace> work anymore?
[01:46] <boss_mc> Firefishe: unfortunately, without some GRUB wizardry you can't have both running at once....
[01:46] <spycode> How can I overclock the shader clock in the nvidia-settings? Someone can help? sorry my english
[01:46] <lasehopesinyouu> i can't extract my rar files
[01:46] <boss_mc> !nozap | storm-zen
[01:46] <lasehopesinyouu> it goes right to wine file
[01:46] <storm-zen> superdaniel49: Ah, that's pertinent information, you know.
[01:46] <boss_mc> !dontzap | storm-zen
[01:46] <storm-zen> That will work; thanks boss_mc.
[01:47] <superdaniel49> storm-zen: what do u mean pertinent information?
[01:47] <kn100_> say i have the kernel source code from a device, what boot perameters would i need to do to make it have a text boot and not boot with a graphic
[01:47] <musikgoat|main> Firefishe: i think the current stable in jaunty is 180.44 though, and they worked fine as well
[01:47] <boss_mc> spycode: what's your native language?
[01:47] <Flaxi> arand: Thanks, I'll have to reboot out of this live CD so I'll give a go and see what happens
[01:47] <spycode> How can I overclock the shader clock in the nvidia-settings? there's only Clock and Memory, where's the shader? someone knows anyother method to do this?
[01:47] <Firefishe> musikgoat|main: The 64 bit version, you mean?
[01:47] <storm-zen> superdaniel49: Nevermind.  Try running gnome-screensaver.
[01:47] <musikgoat|main> Firefishe:
[01:48] <musikgoat|main> yes
[01:48] <Firefishe> musikgoat|main: thanks
[01:48] <musikgoat|main> !info nvidia-glx-180
[01:48] <superdaniel49> storm-zen: ok then let me try that
[01:48] <vijay> im propting for password again again when wireless security is enable,anyone know whats the issue
[01:48] <storm-zen> superdaniel49: Oh, wait... that won't work.
[01:48] <spycode> i'm using the 190.18 graphics beta driver
[01:48] <storm-zen> Sorry; half asleep.  Did you google xfce?
[01:49] <spycode> but even in the 180
[01:49] <musikgoat|main> spycode: any benefits or specific reason?
[01:49] <spycode> I don't have the shader option
[01:49] <cattellar> what's the command to open that settings manager that control consolekit, to remove password requirements for certain tasks ?
[01:49] <spycode> musikgoat|main: more compatibility with dx10 games
[01:49] <storm-zen> ok... I'm off to mess with sound now.
[01:49] <Firefishe> musikgoat|main: Again, though, my only *problem* (if I can call it that) is, do I nix my current i386 system install and redo it for 64bit.  I'm not doing anything particularly 64bit-ish, and it might just mess up my programming.  I think I'll wait for another hard drive to put it on.  This lappie has dual drive bays, one of which is currently empty. ;)
[01:49] <musikgoat|main> spycode: dx10 games via wine?
[01:50] <spycode> yes
[01:50] <spycode> musikgoat|main: example: Silent Hill Homecoming
[01:50] <musikgoat|main> Firefishe: seems like a good idea
[01:50] <musikgoat|main> spycode: cool
[01:50] <powerUserbud> does anybody here use Songbird ?
[01:50] <spycode> yes
[01:50] <spycode> wine 1.1.26
[01:50] <spycode> musikgoat|main: running pretty nice than windows
[01:50] <spycode> windows really sucks
[01:50] <FloodBot1> spycode: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:50] <boss_mc> Firefishe: or install it on a usb pen!
[01:50] <superdaniel49> powerUserbud: what is songbird?
[01:50] <boss_mc> Firefishe: fun fun fun
[01:51] <Firefishe> boss_mc: Yeah, I could do that, too.
[01:51] <losher> Firefishe: 64 bit is not as stable as 32 bit. I think you're right to make sure you can boot back into 32 bit easily...
[01:51] <cooper77z> how do I stop gnome completely and return to command line only?
[01:51] <TiM> me again, hello everyone, i wanna know how i can modify my sound card propriets?
[01:51] <Firefishe> losher...My Thoughts Eggs Aktly ;) hee
[01:51] <boss_mc> Firefishe: I did that to test jaunty performance with the new graphics card
[01:51] <spycode> musikgoat|main: do you know how to make an overclock in my vga in the xorg.conf... without any settings from nvidia...?
[01:51] <musikgoat|main> losher: however the stability is far greater in the past couple years than before,  i will now recommend it to users
[01:51] <spycode> musikgoat|main: sorry my english
[01:51] <superdaniel49> why so you think i upgraded this Windows 98 computer to Xubuntu spycode?
[01:51] <musikgoat|main> spycode: no
[01:52] <Firefishe> losher: I've got the palm webOS sdk installed, and have eclipse and vbox for the webOS emulator.  It's working nicely, and I don't really wanna mess it up!
[01:52] <powerUserbud> Songbird is an open source music player
[01:52] <spycode> xubundu is rules superdaniel49 it will works nice in a 98 PC
[01:53] <Firefishe> boss_mc: Using a usb pen is a good way to test a lot of things.  The only pen I have that is working, however, is one with an old install of Slax on it. ;).  I did for experimental reasons.  I have to work with the pens more to get them to work.  My earlier attempts proved fruitless.
[01:53] <cooper77z> if i type in /etc/init.d/gdm stop then terminal says ok does that mean gnome stopped even though I still have gui???
[01:53] <superdaniel49> spycode: that's why I upgraded to Xubuntu. The Windows 98 partition was already messed up
[01:53] <Firefishe> boss_mc: The newer pen-editions, though, may work better.
[01:53] <arand> Flaxi: seems like the main page for that one is down currently, but http://freshmeat.net/projects/supergrub/ seems to have some mirror download links
[01:54] <spycode> superdaniel49: yes... I can imagine that...
[01:54] <superdaniel49> Firefishe: I tried Slax, but i was not satisfied
[01:54] <Firefishe> superdaniel49: Well, it's quite dated.
[01:55] <spycode> superdaniel49: Windows seven is windows 95 with new themes and support... but... this shit stills windows LoL
[01:55] <outy> i like 7 :(
[01:55] <sebsebseb> !ot |  spycode outy
[01:55] <sebsebseb> and it's Vista version 2
[01:55] <outy> spycode?
[01:55] <superdaniel49> spycode: I mean after i upgraded to Xubuntu, it went a lot faster, so it was worth it
[01:55] <outy> oh
[01:55] <aaron_> any suggestions on getting atheros 802.11 wireless to work?
[01:56] <outy> nvm just woke up
[01:56] <cooper77z> is there a multimedia production channel for ubuntu?
[01:56] <jamieleshaw> #fedora
[01:56] <superdaniel49> cooper77z: i'm not sure if they have it
[01:56] <jocefus> when i browse network folder in nautilus it comes back empty as does smbtree, however it i point nautilus to smb://ip it connects to the server and smbtree as well as network folder magically start working
[01:57] <cooper77z> superdaniel49, if I stop gnome but I can still windows and background does that mean gnome stopped using ram?
[01:58] <krayon> Hi.  I am looking to be able to access more than ~3gb on an ubuntu 8.10 system (32bit).  I hear I can install the server version of the linux kernel but can't find any linux-image-x.x.xx-x-server package.  Can it be installed (and used) easily?
[01:58] <superdaniel49> Usually if ur on a dual boot with 2 os by each other. It hasn't stoped using RAM
[01:58] <cooper77z> I am just using 8.04.2, but when I stop gnome, I can still use the windows
[01:58] <cooper77z> super
[01:59] <Scunizi> krayon: if you're referring to more than 3gigs of ram the server package or kernel won't help you.. 64 bit is the only way to get more access to ram... ON ANY OS.. not just ubuntu
[01:59] <edoceo> how do I get the the installer to try to do the GUI installer in a different Graphic mode?  After usplash my screen just goes blank
[02:00] <test34> Scunizi: you could have a ram HD and use it that way
[02:00] <cooper77z> superdaniel49, terminal says ok when I stop gnome, but all windows type graphics remain
[02:00] <outy> hey when i go to system > preferences > appearance > visual effects tab  and try to turn on"ExtrA"  it changes my minimize, maximise, and close buttons to some dodgy ones that i dont like,   and the "extra"  is always turned off again after a reboot,  any idea whats going on ?
[02:00] <Scunizi> test34: yes.. but that's just like vram from the 80's.. another partition.. not functional, operational ram..
[02:00] <outy> its making docky not work
[02:01] <jocefus> i am using 9.04 latest updates. when i browse network folder in nautilus it comes back empty as does smbtree, however it i point nautilus to smb://ip it connects to the server and smbtree as well as network folder magically start working. i have no issues browsing server shares from winxp laptop
[02:01] <superdaniel49> cooper77z:do u have Gnome on a partition not used by windows?
[02:01] <test34> Scunizi: use it as swap partition, then it's almost like real RAM ?
[02:01] <mattgyver> jocefus, its a known bug
[02:01] <cooper77z> I am only running ubuntu linx superdaniel49
[02:01] <krayon> Scunizi: What about bigmem?
[02:02] <Scunizi> test34: naw... you should already have a swap.. 2 is redundant and not used much anyway
[02:02] <test34> Scunizi: it could be your only swap partition
[02:02] <Scunizi> krayon: I don't know anything about bigmem.....
[02:02] <TiM> hi there
[02:02] <TiM> i need some helep about sound card
[02:02] <Scunizi> test34: true.. takes more than a noob to set up though.. :)
[02:02] <jefinc> !ask | TiM
[02:03] <krayon> Scunizi: My understanding is you can use BIGMEM to enable support for >3gb in the linux kernel.
[02:03] <superdaniel49> cooper77z: so ur don't have dual boot. Where when the computer starts it gives u a choice of booting into Windows or ubuntu?
[02:03] <test34> Scunizi: maybe but it isnt impossible
[02:03] <mattgyver> jocefus, see my pm
[02:03] <Scunizi> krayon: you should google it and see what it actually does.. does it give seemless access to that extra ram? or does it set that extra amount up as something else? partition, swap, whatever?
[02:04] <Scunizi> test34: my point exactly
[02:04] <TiM> i installed my sound card, but now i'm having no sound on firefox
[02:04] <cooper77z> superdaniel49, I reformatted and lost all microsoft influences
[02:04] <krayon> Scunizi: According to a post on http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/2828/ the server kernel allows for referencing the extra.
[02:04] <yoyoned> krayon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=725567
[02:04] <darealpatman> hola
[02:05] <SuperMiguel> whats the best windows program to read ext3 partitions?
[02:05] <superdaniel49> cooper77z: how did u install ubuntu. Live CD or Downloaded image?
[02:05] <krayon> Scunizi: Well, I run ArchLinux and according to some forum posts on the bbs the bigmem makes stuff slower :( Having said that, the request was still made to me to put it on a system for testing.
[02:05] <Scunizi> krayon: great.. follow that.. you should also ask youself.. do I actually use the 3 gigs recognized now or is most of it left dormant?.. you may be chasing windmills.
[02:06] <yoyoned> krayon: I use 64 bit on arch everyday there is no reason not to use it
[02:06] <krayon> yoyoned: I'm not sure if all the software they are using will work with it (and they use Ubuntu not arch)
[02:06] <cooper77z> superdaniel49, I made an image after I completely installed fedora from a linux for dummies disk
[02:06] <Scunizi> yoyoned: krayon should say if he even has a dual core machine.
[02:06] <krayon> yoyoned: Otherwise I'd probably just do that ;)
[02:07] <superdaniel49> cooper77z: did u get the image from the Official Ubuntu site?
[02:07] <Firefishe> Thanks boss_mc, th0r (though I know he's gone now), musikgoat|main, and all the rest who helped me today! :-)
[02:07] <Firefishe> Bye for now
[02:08] <krayon> yoyoned: Thanks for the link, that sum's it up nicely :)
[02:08] <Rapt0rJezuz_> lola
[02:08] <cooper77z> I don't know, superdaniel49.
[02:08] <Rapt0rJezuz_> loli
[02:08] <Rapt0rJezuz_> loli
[02:08] <Rapt0rJezuz_> loli sex
[02:08] <Rapt0rJezuz_> rape
[02:08] <cooper77z> I think so superdaniel49
[02:08] <FloodBot1> Rapt0rJezuz_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:09] <cooper77z> is there some kind of code I can read from the cd iso, superdaniel49?
[02:09] <Paddy_NI> !ops | Rapt0rJezuz
[02:10] <superdaniel49> cooper77z: first make sure that the image came from the ubuntu site (www.ubuntu.com)
[02:10] <cooper77z> superdaniel49, I would bet $100 it's a genuine ubuntu os
[02:11] <superdaniel49> cooper77z : r u sure?
[02:11] <cooper77z> 99.95 percent sure superdaniel49
[02:12] <kfan> no sound with dv41155se HP   laptop
[02:12] <superdaniel49> cooper77z: if it's not from the website, then download the live cd version or the alternate install cd for whatever processor u have and burn the image
[02:12] <yoyoned> !sound|kfan
[02:13] <cooper77z> superdaniel49, isn
[02:13] <cooper77z> superdaniel49, isn't there a way to read the iso to make sure it's genuine?
[02:14] <jet> looking for help with the o2 micro integrated card reader
[02:14] <superdaniel49> cooper77z: is or isn't cuz all u put was isn
 superdaniel49, isn't there a way to read the iso to make sure it's genuine?
[02:15] <superdaniel49> cooper77z: not that i know of
[02:15] <longbow> md5 sums
[02:15] <syntax> cooper, to make sure i would just reinstall getting the iso from ubuntu.com
[02:15] <cooper77z> ok superdaniel49, but how do I kill the gui for now?
[02:16] <jcmarini> wine is telling me that the window on a virtual desktop is too small to fit my virtual page; which is blatantly obvious to me and; the help programs are complaining about legalities; as usual.
[02:16] <superdaniel49> follow what syntax told u cooper
[02:17] <natewiebe13> anyone know anything about a promo video that was for a linux mobile project?
[02:17] <jcmarini> what is wrong with my wine; is it stakle or something
[02:17] <trelayne> hey all, I'm trying to creating an ad-hoc network  (who's SSID is not visible) on my ubuntu A machine. I've manage to make the network but for some reason the SSID shows up on my ubuntu machine B's list of SSIDs. Any know what I need to do to make the network invisible?
[02:17] <natewiebe13> there was a guy that was running linux and had his phone, computer, and car synced
[02:17] <aaron_> atheros wireless card wont work, and suggestions?
[02:17] <cooper77z> It's genuine, I downloaded it from www.ubuntu/... syntax!
[02:17] <syntax> but at first you didnt know
[02:18] <cooper77z> I know, syntax
[02:18] <longbow> try to check the damn md5 sums!
[02:18] <syntax> oh ok
[02:18] <natewiebe13> anyone?
[02:18] <yoyoned> !wireless|natewiebe13:
[02:18] <cooper77z> unless, they cloned the site like ebay clones, syntax
[02:18] <natewiebe13> yoyoned: wireless? i had a question about a video i saw
[02:19] <yoyoned> !wireless|) aaron_:
[02:19] <yoyoned> natewiebe13: oops
[02:19] <natewiebe13> no probs
[02:19] <natewiebe13> yoyoned: but have you seen that video?
[02:19] <aaron_> yoyoned: thanks
[02:19] <yoyoned> natewiebe13: no, but cars running linux sound really cool
[02:19] <superdaniel49> you could check the website by using someone elses windows based computer and use that thing that checks if the website ur looking at is genuine
[02:19] <nicklas_> hello, when trying to burn a ubuntu iso to a usb memory with make usb startup disk the program tells me "cant determine partitonnumber" ... what to do?
[02:20] <xcdfgkjhgcv> I keep getting the error "VPN Connection Failed" When trying to use pptp with network manager.
[02:20] <natewiebe13> yoyoned: i saw it on youtube one time.. i think it was moblin, not sure, but i cant find it anywhere
[02:20] <cooper77z> but, I did install the server from an os that might not have been ubuntu.
[02:20] <natewiebe13> it was their vision for the next 5-10 years
[02:20] <evanescent> is there any good OSS collaboration software (I looked around google and turned up nothing). E.g. a way for co-workers and I to exchange chat/lists/doodles/charts/etc in real time integrated into the same application?
[02:20] <superdaniel49> nicklas_: have u tried to format the usb disk
[02:20] <cooper77z> if I can't kill gui, is that an indication that my edition of ubuntu is not genuine?
[02:20] <nicklas_> superdaniel49: no
[02:21] <syntax> just reformat and install the iso from the site..that will elimate the prob
[02:21] <superdaniel49> nicklas_ try that and then try making the usb startup disk again
[02:22] <jet> !help with card reader
[02:22] <cooper77z> that is so frustrating, syntax, I have reinstalled so many times, and I want to try to fix this installation, I know there is a way to verify it's authenticity without reinstallation!
[02:22] <SuperMiguel> to format HD in fat32 whats the name of the program i need to install?
[02:22] <SuperMiguel> msdosfs?
[02:23] <natewiebe13> found it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX5UAfWiPR8
[02:23] <syntax> Like i said man it might be the version of your ubuntu
[02:23] <IndyGunFreak> SuperBert: if you're using linux, you can use gparted, if you're not using Linux,  you can downlod a gparted live cd
[02:24] <cooper77z> thanks syntax :)
[02:24] <monkey2> has anyone tried lsyncd, I don't think that the --exclude-from argument works correctly
[02:24] <syntax> I know you dont wanna reformat again br0 but this time make sure 100 percent you get it from the site, Reformat and see what happens
[02:24] <Austin`> What's a good application for tracking time spent on a project?
[02:25] <jet> looking for help to get integrated card reader working???? anyone?
[02:25] <IndyGunFreak> Austin`: the clock.. itse installed on all apps.
[02:25] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:25] <Tfnrsh> no one is using bazaare ?
[02:25] <cooper77z> I don't even know how to make sure, syntax, short of ordering the disk by mail. I redownload is not even secure from a corrupt os !!!
[02:26] <danderson> Hi all. I'm wanting to install the latest ubuntu on a system that already has an encrypted hard drive (set up by ubuntu, but another distro replaced it later). Does the main installer disk allow reuse of an existing encrypted volume?
[02:26] <natewiebe13> anyone know if moblin is still working on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX5UAfWiPR8 ??
[02:27] <cooper77z> syntax, I'll order a disk by mail, though, thanks for the heads up :)
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> natewiebe13:  check the 'disrtowatch' web site  - i think there was a new release of moblin the other day.
[02:27] <panickedthumb> natewiebe13: yeah there's a new release
[02:27] <richardcavell> Is it just me or does it take ages to reload update manager's package information?
[02:27] <syntax> you would order when you can download? most if not all of the people thats on ubuntu has gotten it from the site..
[02:27] <natewiebe13> except.. this is not what you think
[02:27] <panickedthumb> natewiebe13: unfortunately, it seems it only works on atom processors. My eee 900 with a celeron won't boot it
[02:28] <richardcavell> sorry wrong channel
[02:28] <superdaniel49> anyone know how to change the screen saver on Xubuntu 9.04 (Xfce desktop)?
[02:28] <cooper77z> bye for now
[02:28] <Tfnrsh> java babe
[02:28] <kfan> my dv41155se overheats with ubuntu and not windows anyone help?
[02:28] <syntax> wow
[02:28] <natewiebe13> Dr_Willis, panickedthumb: this is a video where they show integration into watches, cars, computers, tv's, etc
[02:28] <syntax> ok
[02:28] <natewiebe13> its a year old
[02:29] <bsmith_> Is it possible to run folding@home on a server
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> natewiebe13:  seen things like that done over the last few years...
[02:29] <mazda01_> hi ya'll
[02:29] <kfan> hey
[02:29] <panickedthumb> natewiebe13: aha, gotcha. yes i think they are still working on that
[02:29] <natewiebe13> nice
[02:29] <kfan> why does my computer overheat in ubuntu and not windows?
[02:29] <test34> bsmith_: yes
[02:29] <natewiebe13> its a good idea
[02:29] <mazda01_> anyone need any help with something?
[02:30] <kfan> me
[02:30] <bsmith_> test34:  Is there instructions?
[02:30] <panickedthumb> kfan, my wife's does as well
[02:30] <test34> bsmith_: same instructions as a desktop
[02:30] <superdaniel49> kfan: it's probably with the hardware ur using
[02:30] <Tfnrsh> tell me how to get bzr running on jaunty 64
[02:30] <mazda01_> kfan: state your problem
[02:30] <panickedthumb> kfan: if it's a laptop you might try changing the cpu frequency
[02:30] <jason> ESPN 360 video will not load
[02:31] <jet> cmon people
[02:31] <bsmith_> test34: Thanks, do you also know of any media server "software" to play in a web browser?
[02:31] <panickedthumb> kfan: or if you have compositing on Ubuntu but not windows, that could be why
[02:31] <kfan> hmm
[02:31] <jet> i want to get my friggin card reader to work i already lost my whole computer once this afternoon.....
[02:31] <Austin`> IndyGunFreak: ;p something more advanced than that. A 'project manager' perhaps?
[02:31]  * xTheGoat121x is now awake!
[02:32] <xTheGoat121x> But I'm going back to sleep.
[02:32] <danderson> Austin`: if you happen to use Emacs, org-mode has all of that and more.
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> jet:  built into a laptop?
[02:32] <danderson> todo lists, project management, timeclocking, agenda mode...
[02:32] <test34> bsmith_: I dont understand exactly what you want to do
[02:32] <jet> Dr_Willis: yea, its one of those o2 micro ones
[02:33] <powerUserbud> get someone help install the latest version of firefox
[02:33] <Austin`> danderson: I don't use emacs :(
[02:33] <bsmith_> I want to listen to music from any computer connected to the internet in the browser (firefox, IE) without having to download a streaming file
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> jet:  that means little to me.   I have had laptops in the past that have odd chipset/built in readers  - often its just the sd card that work in them..  some times they dont work at all. theres just a lot of varity in the things.
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> jet:  its possible theres some kernel options that might get it going. but you would have to check the forums for that exact laptop/chipset of the things.  some of my netbooks need special boot optiosn to get theirs seen properly.
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> jet:  some only work IF theres a card in the slot when you boot.
[02:34] <jet> Dr_Willis: i had someone helping with it this afternoon and i screwed up i was so far into terminal i didnt know what i had done to go back and try again
[02:35] <FloridaGuy> after 2 weeks of trying to get my display set to 1280x1040....sence Polaroid recomends 1040x768....1040x768 was all i could get ubuntu 9.04 to do...when other distro's i could get 1280x1040...so i asked a #xorg if i could copyed a mandriva xorg.conf over...that i had stored on my usb stick if it would work...they said it should..so i did that..rebooted...#xorg was right ...i now have my 1280x1040
[02:35] <jet> Dr_Willis: the reader is seen with lspci
[02:35] <jet> Dr_Willis: but no cards will mount
[02:35] <linxeh> FloridaGuy: err
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> jet:  yep. ive had some readers that only some of the slots work.  You try having a card inserted when it boots up?
[02:36] <FloridaGuy> linxeh, err...what
[02:36] <jet> Dr_Willis: im pretty sure its been in there when it boots a few times but i still dont get anything
[02:36] <powerUserbud> update Firefox to 3.5 anyone
[02:36] <jet> Dr_Willis: what about boot options?
[02:36] <rww> !ff35 | powerUserbud
[02:36] <robert__> how is AIM? does it have all the webcam and mic features?
[02:37] <robert__> for Ubuntu i mean 1.5
[02:37] <linxeh> FloridaGuy: what you said made little sense; what are you trying to achieve ?
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> jet:  ive seen some that work on my netbooks.. but it may deped on your exact chipset.
[02:38] <Schwanowski> huh, my scroll wheel does no twork
[02:39] <mattb123> Hello all.  I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 and I'm trying to get my wireless to work.  I was told I need to install "linux-backports-modules-2.6.28-13-generic" package.  How should I do that?
[02:39] <Schwanowski> what might be the problem?
[02:39] <robert__> how is AIM for Linux? does it have webcam/mic?
[02:39] <cooper77z> hi, how do I finalize a mail order for ubuntu cds when the only option is to change my request?
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> robert__:  what 'AIM' for linux? theres several 3rd party IM clients that can do AIM chatting.
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> robert__:  as far as i know the  official AIM client for linux is very very old.
[02:39] <robert__> Dr_Willis, the official aim
[02:39] <robert__> oh ok
[02:39] <jet> Dr_Willis: maybe you can make some sence of a few terminal outputs and tell me if its nearly hopeless or not it wont bother me much. im already down an 80 gig zune
[02:39] <Drule> Hi
[02:39] <frostee> robert_...Try pidgin
[02:39] <Drule> I'm now a member of the Ubuntu family ;)
[02:39] <jet> ...
[02:40] <Tfnrsh> welcome
[02:40] <Drule> Thanks pal.
[02:40] <FloridaGuy> linxeh, im useing a polaroid LCD tv..that has monitor on it...polariod recomends 1040x768.....other distro's i have been able to get 1280x1040...ubuntu i havent been able to get the 1280x1040....i have a xorg.conf stored on my usb stick from mandriva....#xorg   ...told me to copy that over to ubuntu...and it worked
[02:40] <lstarnes> mattb123: open a terminal and enter this: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-$(uname -r)
[02:40] <Schwanowski> robert: pidgon is the common IM client at ubuntu.. you can try it in windows as well
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> jet:  i am heading to work here in 10 min. so cant really help much. Other then to suggest ya pastebin the output  somewhere.. and hopefully find  someone else who can help.
[02:40] <emy> hello can anyone recommend me a channel to disccus history? like a network too?
[02:40] <jet> Dr_Willis: get to work brother lol
[02:41] <jet> Dr_Willis: thanks anyway
[02:41]  * richardcavell can't play Counter-Strike with a ping of 300
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> jet:  been off work for 2 weeks.. back to 3rd shift.. UGH
[02:41] <linxeh> FloridaGuy: 1040x768, or 1024x768 ?
[02:41] <powerUserbud> thanks
[02:41] <jet> Dr_Willis: i go back for 4 nights tomorrow night
[02:42] <cooper77z> oh, I get it, it changed the request automatically, "Request changed successfully." :)
[02:42] <Tfnrsh> is there a cahnnel for networking support ?
[02:42] <cooper77z> so, how do I kill the gui to free up ram for cinelerra?
[02:42] <mattb123> Istarnes, just tried, and it says it couldn't find the package
[02:43] <jet> so can anyone else take a stab at helping me out with my card reader?
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> Tfnrsh:  'networking support' is a VERY broad topic.
[02:43] <FloridaGuy> linxeh, 1024
[02:44] <Tfnrsh> id like to start with dns n routing
[02:44] <prankenandi> hello
[02:45] <kais3r> hola
[02:45] <cooper77z> howdy
[02:46] <Tfnrsh> greeting to your nerds hows life
[02:46] <cooper77z> sure jet what's wrong?
[02:46] <Tfnrsh> im havin a wine
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> Tfnrsh:  start? you mean yoi basicially wish to learn about them? or is tehre an actual propblem?
[02:46] <H_M-Laptop> Hey, I installed gtk-chtheme to use with fluxbox today... and when I went to boot back into GNOME, I noticed it changed my theme there. So I went to change it the normal way, and that control was broken. I apt-get removed gtk-chtheme, but this problem didn't go away.
[02:47] <H_M-Laptop> I found a forum post saying this was due to something that changed in my .gnome2 config....
[02:47] <H_M-Laptop> And the best way to fix it is to simply delete the .gnome2 folder and change your settings all over again... -- But is that the only option?
[02:47] <Tfnrsh> there is no actual problem, and i got the basics but im lookiong forward to rent a rack with my own uplink
[02:48] <reorampage> hey all, i'm a total noob at linux and irc but i really dont know where else to turn for help. is this the right room to seek help?
[02:48] <cooper77z> how do I kill gnome and return to command line?
[02:48] <Tfnrsh> soooo mom sais itd be a great idea to get some knowlegde first :d
[02:48] <Tfnrsh> :D
[02:48] <jet> cooper77z: im trying to get an sd card to mount with an o2 micro integrated reader
[02:48] <H_M-Laptop> Anyone have any idea with the problem I said above? :(
[02:48] <jet> cooper77z: pm?
[02:48] <Tfnrsh> ALT+CTRL+F1-5
[02:49] <cooper77z> hmmm, I am using a usb card reader "dynex" with 8.04.2 and it works fine
[02:49] <Tfnrsh> /etc/init.d/gdm/stop || killall -9 gdm
[02:49] <H_M-Laptop> jet: Why have a PM?
[02:49] <H_M-Laptop> jet: That's like the biggest sign of someone doing something malicious.
[02:50] <lstarnes> H_M-Laptop: some people prefer PM because they can't keep up with the channel
[02:50] <linxeh> reorampage: it depends what you want to do:) probably
[02:50] <jet> H_M-Laptop: yea someone was helping me this afternoon that way thats why i asked i can keep up fine lol
[02:50] <cooper77z> maybe, jet, you should take back your current reader and get a dynex one?
[02:51] <H_M-Laptop> Anyway, does anyone know a way to restore the gnome gtk2 theme control from gtk-chtheme?
[02:51] <jcmarini> wine
[02:51] <H_M-Laptop> Because I REALLY don't want to have to configure everything again.
[02:51] <jet> its an integrated on in my laptop :\
[02:51] <cooper77z> maybe you gotta shell out $20?
[02:51] <cooper77z> jet?
[02:51] <toogreen> hi there, something really strange is happening with Apache under 9.04: when i setup my site under default port 80, all works fine. If I change the port, apache seems to still be running but my site is unavailable. Any ideas anyone?
[02:52] <jet> it MIGHT be my only option?
[02:52] <H_M-Laptop> Welp.. I guess it can't be TOOOOO bad to just simply start over with a new gnome config....
[02:52] <cooper77z> maybe ??? dynex works fine for me :)
[02:53]  * H_M-Laptop wipes his tears and deletes the folder.. then restarts
[02:55] <sabayonuser> i have a serious question regarding the speed of "ubuntu 9.04 gnome" verses "sabayon 4.2 gnome". why is sabayon lightening fast when compared with ubuntu??
[02:55]  * richardcavell advises HMLaptop to use backups
[02:55] <bazhang> sabayonuser, please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[02:55] <richardcavell> toogreen: firewall?
[02:56] <sabayonuser> this is on-topic. i am asking a question regarding ubuntu 9.04
[02:56] <toogreen> richardcavell, nah its off and ports are accessible
[02:56] <bazhang> sabayonuser, no, it is not. Please take chat elsewhere
[02:56] <richardcavell> toogreen: are you able to ping the port from another computer?
[02:56] <toogreen> richardcavell, when i try to load the site apache is running but tells me the page is unavailable
[02:56] <toogreen> richardcavell, yes
[03:01] <WiiW> bazhang: :)
[03:01] <sabayonuser> it takes a while longer to open pidgin, firefox, and even at boot up. what can be done?
[03:01] <richardcavell> toogreen: sorry got cut off.  What do you get if you http request from another computer?
[03:02] <toogreen> richardcavell, a "Not Found" error
[03:02] <sabayonuser> bazhang: read up. i missed to type your name.
[03:02] <toogreen> richardcavell, so Apache is running indeed and responding, just doesn't load the content
[03:03] <toogreen> richardcavell, cuz at the bottom of the error page i see the server info: Apache/2.2.11 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.6-3ubuntu4.1 with Suhosin-Patch Server at "removed" Port 99
[03:04] <toogreen> richardcavell, and then if i go back and change /etc/apache2/ports.conf to port 80, restart apache, same page same content loads fine. I don't get it!
[03:04] <evanescent> is there a good whiteboard/blackboard app for ubuntu? that runs over the network so two people can use it at once?
[03:05] <sabayonuser> any idea's here to make ubuntu go faster?
[03:05] <richardcavell> toogreen: okay, so it is serving
[03:05] <richardcavell> toogreen: it's just refusing to serve the content of your site
[03:05] <richardcavell> toogreen: #apache has 112 users right now.  Try there.
[03:05] <jet> i need help with tis stupid o2 reader
[03:06] <kn100> i need to borrow someone really quick
[03:06] <kn100> is there anyone from the US here with at&t internet
[03:06] <kn100> preferably with the high speed dsl
[03:06] <sabayonuser> is there a special plug for ubuntu to use more cpu power?
[03:07] <lstarnes> toogreen: I think the channel for the apache httpd is #httpd.  #apache is the channel for the Apache Software Foundation
[03:08] <abstortedminds1> hi, im experiencing issues connecting ubuntu, i removed network-manager and setup:  auto eth0; iface eth0 inet dhcp in my /etc/network/interfaces file, when restarting network, it hangs on not getting any dhcp offers
[03:09] <richardcavell> lstarnes: ok my bad
[03:09]  * richardcavell logs off to play counter-strike
[03:09] <cooper77z> How do I suspend all programs except the one I click on to free up ram?
[03:09] <jrs5fg> hi
[03:09] <cooper77z> hi
[03:10] <jrs5fg> I have a little grub stage1 problem
[03:10] <jrs5fg> so I'm installing ubuntu for a person who knows nothing about operating systems and bootloaders...
[03:10] <cooper77z> I don't know much about grub jrs5fg
[03:11] <cooper77z> how do I suspend grub, jrs5fg?
[03:11] <bazhang> cooper77z, you dont
[03:11] <lstarnes> cooper77z: grub only runs once, and that's when you boot
[03:12] <jrs5fg> okay so I created a dedicated /boot partition at install...
[03:12] <jrs5fg> which apparently overwrote whatever was installed at /boot
[03:12] <jrs5fg> like the kernel
[03:12] <cooper77z> bazhang, how do I make gui cease and go back to command line?
[03:12] <sabayonuser> jrs5fg: i think ubuntu is very easy to set up and install. it works every time.
[03:12] <bazhang> cooper77z, for what purpose
[03:12] <jrs5fg> yes but I really don't want to reinstall it
[03:12] <jrs5fg> like everything's set up
[03:12] <cooper77z> to free up ram for cinelerra, bazhang
[03:12] <jrs5fg> except that /boot is essentially empty
[03:13] <jrs5fg> well I've restored some of it
[03:13] <jrs5fg> like the kernels
[03:13] <jrs5fg> but stage1 doesn't exist.
[03:13] <bazhang> cooper77z, you want to use cinelerra with out a desktop environment?
[03:13] <jrib> jrs5fg: the installer only formats a partition if you tell it to
[03:13] <user__> ola
[03:13] <cooper77z> yes, because I don't have very much ram bazhang
[03:13] <jrib> !grub > jrs5fg
[03:13] <user__> hi
[03:13] <bazhang> cooper77z, that does not make sense
[03:13] <user__> someone can help me
[03:13] <Guest37651> hello
[03:13] <cooper77z> why not bazhang?
[03:14] <tiger2wander> hi all
[03:14] <lstarnes> cooper77z: you need a GUI in order to run a graphical application
[03:14] <lasehopesinyouu> i can't extract my rar files
[03:14] <lasehopesinyouu> it goes right to wine file
[03:14] <lasehopesinyouu> help :(
[03:14] <jrib> !rar | lasehopesinyouu
[03:14] <bazhang> cooper77z, it is self-evident
[03:14] <cooper77z> I was told differently, but it could have been errant lstanes
[03:14] <tiger2wander> is someone known the way to check RAM's manufacturer by command?
[03:14] <lstarnes> cooper77z: have you tried a lightweight window manager such as fluxbox?
[03:14] <jrs5fg> jrib -- the partition is formatted tho
[03:15] <jrs5fg> it's just blank
[03:15] <jrs5fg> and overwrote the original /boot mount point
[03:15] <cooper77z> will I have a choice at startup which window manager to use lstarnes?
[03:15] <jrs5fg> basically how do I get stage1 back?
[03:15] <jrib> jrs5fg: right, I told you about the installer for teh future.  Read ubottu's grub instructions on how to reinstall grub
[03:15] <lstarnes> cooper77z: yes, by changing which session you use
[03:15] <jrs5fg> well grub is installed...
[03:16] <jrs5fg> stage1 just isn't where it should be
[03:16] <cooper77z> will that free up ram for cinelerra, lstarnes?
[03:16] <jrib> jrs5fg: so install it where it should be
[03:16] <aviator> #ubuntu-fr
[03:16] <jrs5fg> I've used grub-install and recreated the system map and everything
[03:16] <lstarnes> cooper77z: fluxbox uses significantly less ram than gnome or any other full desktop environment
[03:16] <jrs5fg> where do I find stage1...?
[03:17] <lstarnes> cooper77z: how much swap do you have?
[03:17] <cooper77z> thanks, lstarnes, I'll meditate on it
[03:17] <cooper77z> lstarnes, I don't know
[03:18] <Tfnrsh> awwww ubutnu community sucks
[03:18] <lstarnes> cooper77z: check the system monitor or htop
[03:18] <jrib> jrs5fg: wow, follow ubottu's instructions on using the super grub disk.  That should work afaik
[03:18] <Tfnrsh> maybe gentoo next time
[03:18] <jrib> Tfnrsh: do you have a question?
[03:18] <cooper77z> checking lstanes
[03:19] <lstarnes> cooper77z: how much ram do you currently have?
[03:19] <Tfnrsh> yes
[03:19] <Tfnrsh> actually i got a question
[03:19] <masterofhate> any body know anything about the new ubuntu operating system after installing the package manager will not open i get an error
[03:19] <jrib> Tfnrsh: so ask your ubuntu support question
[03:19] <lstarnes> masterofhate: version 9.04?
[03:19] <cooper77z> lstarnes, 384 shadow, whatever that means and 256 cache, whatever that means
[03:19] <masterofhate> yes
[03:19] <lstarnes> masterofhate: what is the error?
[03:20] <Tfnrsh> im running jaunty amd64 and bzr doesnt work
[03:20] <lstarnes> cooper77z: I would strongly suggest getting more ram if you're going to be using applications that use a lot of ram
[03:20] <jrib> !doesn't work | Tfnrsh
[03:20] <Tfnrsh> nice thanks
[03:21] <jrib> Tfnrsh: you need to provide details so we can help you
[03:21] <cooper77z> 648 swap lstarnes, I can't afford it right now, it's like $85 for a gig
[03:21] <Tfnrsh> ubuntu community sucks :D
[03:21] <Tfnrsh> youre another proof
[03:21] <bazhang> Tfnrsh, no need for that
[03:22] <sabayonuser> could it be possible that my pc is too slow for ubuntu 9.04? i have a p4 3.2ghz and 640mb ram, ati 64mb vga. could it be my vga is too low???
[03:22] <jrs5fg> well ubottu won't parse any requests about the super disk...
[03:22] <linuxguy2009> Anyone have any experience in Ubuntu icon theme set creation for gnome?
[03:22] <cooper77z> lstanes?
[03:22] <lstarnes> cooper77z: I'm not sure what you're asking
[03:22] <bazhang> cooper77z, its lstarnes
[03:22] <jrs5fg> sabayonuser: I've run Unreal Tournament on a 32 MB video card
[03:22] <cooper77z> did the swap tell you anything more, lstarnes, sorry
[03:23] <bazhang> cooper77z, please tab complete users nicks
[03:23] <lstarnes> cooper77z: 648MB?
[03:23] <cooper77z> yes lstarnes
[03:23] <cooper77z> tab works bazhang
[03:23] <lstarnes> cooper77z: that seems like enough swap
[03:24] <WiiW> how to setup a password with length of 2 ?  what can I do with : /etc/pam.d/ ?
[03:24] <cooper77z> thanks for the help people :)
[03:24] <lstarnes> WiiW: 2 characters?
[03:24] <WiiW> lstarnes: yes
[03:24] <lstarnes> WiiW: that is way too short to possibly be secure
[03:24] <tiger2wander> did you known the way to find RAM manufacturer by command line?
[03:24] <WiiW> lstarnes: I know
[03:24] <sabayonuser> jrs5fg: is your 9.04 fast? mine is fast when compared to windows. but it's noticeably slow when i tried a different linux distro.
[03:24] <linuxguy2009> WiiW: Why not just set the system to autologin if thats the issue.
[03:25] <tiger2wander> I have use dmidecode but the manufacturer is not specified! :(
[03:25] <Brian_H> I'm trying to setup a preseed file that partitions my drives and makes / and swap encrypted however I can't get the recipe right, can anyone provide some insight?  I've tried the "use entire disk and setup lvm and encrypt" however I always get grub error 18 on boot, I think its because the installer for 9.04 doesn't make a separate unencrypted /boot
[03:25] <WiiW> linuxguy2009: ok , that's a good way
[03:26] <thepeon> Stupid vi question, anyway to get out of edit mode without using esc??
[03:27] <Brian_H> another question... if I'm encrypting my entire / parition it's not necessary to encrypt my home directory right?
[03:27] <mataks> what program in ubuntu that is like winamp?
[03:27] <psywiped> yea Brian_H you realy need to make a boot partition
[03:27] <bazhang> mataks, audacious
[03:27] <timbojimbo> can any one help me with installing pokerth?
[03:27] <linuxguy2009> Brian_H: encrypting the "/" root folder is everything. Unless you have a seperate home partition, it will be encrypted also.
[03:28] <psywiped> Brian_H you could also use trucript
[03:28] <jrib> thepeon: some people use ctrl-[.  Personally, I swap escape with CapsLock on my keyboard
[03:28] <mataks> bazhang, ok thnx
[03:28] <Brian_H> psywiped, linuxguy2009: thanks, I'm trying to setup a preseed file that does all of these choices for me but am having some dificullty getting the d-i paritioning part down
[03:29] <timbojimbo> can any one help me with upgrading from 0.6.4 to 0.7.1 pokerth?
[03:29] <channelbot> hi
[03:29] <Brian_H> I see examples for regular paritioning, but none for setting up a regular /boot parition, and then encrypted / and swap
[03:30] <krismanto> can i know the package name mirc for linux test?
[03:30] <krismanto> its exist or not?
[03:30] <linuxguy2009> mataks: Visit your add/remove list and look through the Sound & Video catagory for a list of options. Rhythmbox comes by default and thats what I use.
[03:30] <jrib> krismanto: try xchat instead
[03:30] <krismanto> i use ubuntu jaunty..there is mirc for ubuntu text?
[03:30] <krismanto> xchat?
[03:30] <krismanto> okay
[03:30] <krismanto> jrib:thanks
[03:30] <FloodBot1> krismanto: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:30] <sabayonuser> ok.. maybe my username offends you people. it came up automatically when i booted a different distro using usb "live cd." is there a way to make my ubutnu 9.04 faster?
[03:30] <krismanto> jrib:know something about eggdrop
[03:30] <raar> Any clue what's wrong with this?: http://pastebin.com/d21ff2461 - I'm trying to add a user with the useradd command and arguments listed in --help, yet it errors telling me the possible arguments
[03:31] <jrib> krismanto: ask the channel and see :)
[03:31] <linuxguy2009>  sabayonuser: no
[03:31] <thepeon> jrib thanks, that helped.  Stuck with awn's terminal interface (esc minimizes the window)
[03:31] <jrib> raar: looks to me like you aren't passing the LOGIN part
[03:31] <WiiW> when 9.10 login to gnome desktop , I saw it used my memory is 212MB , is it normal ?
[03:32] <mataks> im new to linux and im bothered with the two panel at the top and the bottom.. is there a way to merge them like on windows.. the taskbar and the tabs tray is only at the bottom
[03:32] <linuxguy2009> WiiW: Is what normal?
[03:32] <sabayonuser> linuxguy2009: thank you! i tend to be straight forward. sorry to offend the rest.
[03:32] <kingdong> what is the 'best' distro to run on a eee pc 1000he
[03:32] <kingdong> the standard build or some custom eee build ?
[03:32] <Brian_H> mataks: yes you can right click the top bar and add a window selector to it I think
[03:32] <linuxguy2009> mataks: Theres tons of tutorials for panel customization on google its been asked a million times.
[03:33] <raar> jrib: ahhh, I see.. silly me, I had all the options right but forgot the main part :( thanks!
[03:33] <Brian_H> then delete the bottom panel
[03:33] <WiiW> linuxguy2009: 9.10 is so faster , from power on to login to desktop , it is only 15 second
[03:33] <linuxguy2009> WiiW: What are you telling me for? hehe
[03:33] <jrib> !karmic | WiiW
[03:34] <WiiW> jrib: ok , I see
[03:34] <kingdong> anyone ?
[03:35] <Brian_H> kingdong: don't know but I know there is a ubuntu netbook remix, give it a try
[03:35] <linuxguy2009> kingdong: Have you tried Ubuntu Netbook Edition?
[03:35] <kingdong> it look like shit
[03:35] <kingdong> its for a dev server
[03:35] <kingdong> not a desktop
[03:35] <FloodBot1> kingdong: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:35] <kingdong> i plan to migrate from netbsd to ubuntu
[03:36] <kingdong> since the 'trial' will be done on a eee so no idea wich distro to use, is the standard 9.x distro supporting most of the eee hardware ?
[03:36] <linuxguy2009> kingdong: There is the netbook release of ubuntu other than that do you have any specific questions that we might be able to help with?
[03:36] <Brian_H> you're not making any sense.. you asked about a netbook OS now you're talking about a dev server?
[03:36] <mataks> linuxguy2009, k thnx i'll look for it
[03:36] <kingdong> dev server on a netbook, nothing fancy, python, apache, svn, etc, etc
[03:36] <Sgeo> Hi all
[03:37] <mataks> bazhang,  in audacious i can't see the playlist..
[03:37] <Sgeo> Why doesn't the Guest account work? I try it, then the screen goes between black and off repeatedly, then it locks under my account
[03:37] <mataks> wait i see it now. hehe
[03:37] <bazhang> mataks, you have to click one of the buttons on the right hand side of the player window, will bring it up
[03:37] <linuxguy2009> mataks: If your the one looking for media players. Go to Applications menu, Add/Remove and search in the Sound & Video for apps.
[03:38] <linuxguy2009> mataks: Also have you tried the default Rhythmbox?
[03:38] <kfan> how can i adjust my laptop fan to make it always run at full speed?
[03:39] <linuxguy2009> kfan: Perhaps the BIOS setup? Might be set to a power saving setting.
[03:39] <mataks> linuxguy2009,  yes i tried the rhythmbox and it's big..  i mean not like audacious its so cute. hehe
[03:39] <wers> how do i send private messages on twitter using gwibber? :)
[03:40] <cooper77z> anyone know how many hours a dell inspiron 1000 was made to be used for?
[03:40] <jrib> cooper77z: ask dell
[03:40] <linuxguy2009> cooper77z: Yeah call Dell for expected battery life.
[03:40] <mazda01_> kfan: what kind of laptop is it again?
[03:40] <cooper77z> jrib, how can I completely back up my os and doccuments on dvd?
[03:40] <jrib> !backup > cooper77z
[03:41] <jrib> cooper77z: personally, I like rsnapshot
[03:41] <cooper77z> ubottu, I don't know where to find your private message
[03:41] <linuxguy2009> cooper77z: A live CD session that includes Part Image program. I use Parted Magic distro live CD.
[03:41] <jrib> cooper77z: look on the left or bottom of your xchat for "ubottu" in red and click on it
[03:42] <jrs5fg> can someone give me their /boot/grub/stage1?
[03:42] <linuxguy2009> cooper77z: www.distrowatch.com look for Parted Magic.
[03:42] <jrib> jrs5fg: did you use the super grub disk?
[03:42] <jrs5fg> or a url where I would download it from?
[03:42] <Sgeo> Hello?
[03:42] <jrs5fg> ubottu would return me errors when I asked about it...
[03:42] <jrib> !grub > jrs5fg
[03:42] <jrs5fg> can't I just download a /boot/grub/stage1?
[03:42] <jrib> jrs5fg: click on the link he gives you
[03:43] <mazda01_> jrs5fg:   http://pastebin.com/f3c2af3dc
[03:43] <bruenig> mazda01_: ahahahaha
[03:43] <Sgeo> Any help?
[03:43] <bruenig> I was waiting for someone to pastebin
[03:43] <mazda01_> bruenig: what are you laughing at?
[03:43] <bruenig> mazda01_: you pasted a binary file
[03:43] <linuxguy2009> Sgeo: Hola! How can we help you today?
[03:43] <Sgeo> Why doesn't the Guest account work? I try it, then the screen goes between black and off repeatedly, then it locks under my account
[03:43] <jrs5fg> well I think I need a binary file...
[03:44] <jrs5fg> but I don't know where it starts
[03:44] <bruenig> but you can't paste a binary file
[03:44] <kn100> LOL at binary
[03:44] <Sgeo> As though I clicked Locked screen
[03:44] <kn100> He just broke the internet
[03:44] <mazda01_> bruenig: HA, you're right.  i din
[03:44] <bruenig> jrs5fg: http://omploader.org/vMjFtdw
[03:44] <artillerytx> Hey guys im trying to use lmsensors but when it says want to add lines automatically it never does anything
[03:44] <jrs5fg> and I can't find where the ELF line starts lol
[03:44] <linuxguy2009> Sgeo: Log into a regular account and choose guest from user switcher applet.
[03:44] <mazda01_> bruenig: i didn't realize stage1 was a binary file. ha ha
[03:44] <kn100> You cant do THAT on the internet
[03:44] <jrs5fg> thx
[03:44] <Sgeo> linuxguy2009, what is not a regular account?
[03:44] <jrs5fg> trying now
[03:44] <Sgeo> It worked before
[03:44] <cooper77z> thanks everyone :) I am really pleased with my system now, it just needs more ram
[03:45] <linuxguy2009> Sgeo: Any account.
[03:45] <Sgeo> And that's what I've been doing, assuming that this account is a regular account
[03:45] <bruenig> cooper77z: just needs less bloat
[03:45] <linuxguy2009> Sgeo: 9.04?
[03:45] <kit_> cooper77z, how much ram you got?
[03:45] <Sgeo> Yes
[03:45] <cooper77z> kit, what is shadow ram?
[03:45] <Sgeo> Although the Update thing has been bugging me to update stuff. I'm currently a bit scared of upgrading the kernel
[03:46] <krismanto> jrib:i mean irc for linux text only..no gui
[03:46] <linuxguy2009> Sgeo: Dont know of any reason it shouldnt work. It should come right back in as guest.
[03:46] <Sgeo> Don't think that's relevent
[03:46] <jrib> krismanto: try irssi and weechat then
[03:46] <Sgeo> Could running too much stuff cause a problem?
[03:46] <mazda01_> bruenig: have you tried out the command line app, pastebinit? it's awesomem no more copying and pasting into pastebin, i just issue pastebinit /filename   and it returns a link and i paste that and I am good to go
[03:46] <krismanto> ok
[03:46] <bruenig> mazda01_: quite familiar
[03:46] <kit_> cooper77z, i'm not sure. something on your cpu or graphics adaptor maybe
[03:46] <linuxguy2009> Sgeo: How much ram do you have?
[03:46] <Sgeo> Not sure offhand
[03:46] <Sgeo> Just closed out of a bunch of stuff, about to try again
[03:46] <cooper77z> I am not sure either, so I don't know how much ram I have, maybe 1.2 gigs?
[03:47] <cooper77z> kit
[03:47] <bruenig> cooper77z: free -m
[03:47] <mazda01_> Sgeo: just issue free -m and you can see how much ram you have
[03:47] <bruenig> be the first number
[03:47] <linuxguy2009> Sgeo: System menu, Administration, System monitor will say.
[03:47] <Sgeo> Closing out of stuff worked
[03:47] <cooper77z> bye bye for now :)
[03:48] <linuxguy2009> Sgeo: English?
[03:48] <kfan> says i only have 3637 ???
[03:48] <Sgeo> ~1GB
[03:48] <kfan> what the hell shouldnt it before 4000?
[03:48] <Sgeo> linuxguy2009, hm?
[03:48] <eli_> hi, I did setting ufw allow 443, but I checked open port by use nmap -v localhost then opened 139, 445 port...
[03:48] <Sgeo> I closed out of a bunch of open stuff, and now the Guest session thing is working
[03:48] <eli_> plz help me
[03:48] <linuxguy2009> Sgeo: You have 1Gb total or free?
[03:48] <Sgeo> total
[03:48] <Sgeo> BRB
[03:48] <linuxguy2009> Sgeo: How much free?
[03:49] <kfan> how can i only have 3637 ram  ???? shouldnt it be 4gig?
[03:49] <linuxguy2009> kfan: 32bit CPU limit? Not sure what the actual limit is at all. Guess.
[03:49] <Frank83> Greetings guys. Is there a way to remove the message "Loading from disk **** swap ****" at ubuntu's load up?
[03:50] <linuxguy2009> kfan: 32bit OS limit I mean
[03:50] <mothdragon> Hi I'm trying to get the scanner portion of my new Brother MFC-290C Multifunction printer working in Ubuntu 9.04, I'm not too familiar with my way around Linux... But I have been able to get the printer portion working... Anyone Have Any Ideas? I tried looking online for XSANE drivers, and various other variations on search, but I din't find anything helpful...
[03:50] <eli_> could you help me firewall setting?
[03:50] <linuxguy2009> Frank83: Its just stating what it is doing. Whats the problem?
[03:50] <kit_> 3637mb could be 4,000,000,000 bytes
[03:51] <Frank83> Linuxguy2009: There is really no problem at all. I was just wondering how it could be removed. Pure curiosity. That is before I start messing with the GRUB (I thought I could remove it from there)
[03:52] <linuxguy2009> mothdragon: Brother have excelent Linux driver support. google for brother linux support. They have drivers in deb and rpm formats there.
[03:52] <Sgeo> 298used now
[03:52] <macgyver_> all, I seem to have lost my bluetooth, dmesg shows it as there, but I cannot seem to get it to activate --> dmesg |grep Bluetooth --> Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[03:52] <Sgeo> After I closed out of stuff and started the guest account
[03:53] <macgyver_> for the record, it was working fine before I did the updates
[03:53] <mothdragon> linuxguy2009: all I've been able to find is the cups and the lpr drivers for the printer... It doesn't seem to have any effect for Scanner though...
[03:54] <linuxguy2009> mothdragon: Did you install them both using sudo?
[03:54] <mothdragon> linuxguy2009: yes... It's possible that I'm scanning wrong though... I'm just learning the device too... just bought it today
[03:55] <linuxguy2009> mothdragon: Do you notice if you got an error saying that /user/share/cups/model folder doesnt exist?
[03:56] <jessicasco> can man read HTML?
[03:56] <eli_> hi
[03:57] <belorix> is Ubuntu Studio an Oddicial Ubuntu Release
[03:57] <belorix> !studio
[03:57] <mothdragon> linuxguy2009: no, the instructions told me I had to make that.... The instructions didn't tell me though that I had to make the /var/spool/lpd/mfc290c directory though
[03:57] <bazhang> belorix, you can install the package on top of Ubuntu, it is official
[03:57] <linuxguy2009> motherdragon: http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/download_scn.html
[03:58] <fez> sup
[03:58] <linuxguy2009> mothdragon: Your printer scanner is listed under the brscan3 models. There is a seperate driver for the scanner looks like.
[03:58] <kit_> jessicasco - no, do you mean as in html on the web? you could use links, it's a console based web browser
[03:59] <mothdragon> linuxguy2009: Ahh... thank you! checking it out now! :)
[03:59] <fez> i fergut my rewt passwerd.... halp!!!111
[03:59] <linuxguy2009> mothdragon: Im sure itll work great for you. Brother has excelent drivers for linux.
[03:59] <kit_> fez - use sudo su
[04:00] <kit_> and then when you're in as root run passwd
[04:00] <Lenin_Cat> how do you blank a disc in ubuntu?
[04:00] <linuxguy2009> Lenin_Cat: Brasero can blank a CD-RW or DVD+_RW
[04:00] <arbic> Hello i need help , i delete bot folder
[04:00] <jrib> !noroot | kit_
[04:00] <jrib> !sudo | fez
[04:01] <linuxguy2009> Lenin_Cat: Or do you mean a hard drive or what exactly?
[04:01] <Lenin_Cat> dvd-rw
[04:01] <jrib> fez: there is no root password by default.  You use sudo when you need administrative privileges.  Ubottu's link should fill you in, but ask if you are unsure about anything
[04:01] <linuxguy2009> Lenin_Cat: Yeah try Brasero
[04:01] <Tfnrsh> does anyone know a good linux community ?
[04:01] <Brian_H> "I am unable to deny the allegations that a) I'm a straight rider, b) it may not be in your best interests to "fuck with me" and c) in spite of the police making attempts to locate and apprehend me, my record to this point has proven to be flawless and unscathed"
[04:01] <jrib> Tfnrsh: please keep the discussion in this channel related to ubuntu support only
[04:01] <linuxguy2009>  Tfnrsh: No none of us know of a good linuc community. lmao
[04:01] <linuxguy2009> Right here!
[04:01] <kit_> jrib, read what fez asked
[04:02] <jrib> kit_: I did
[04:02] <Tfnrsh> both funny
[04:02] <mcrawfor> firefox 3.5
[04:02] <urifu> Hi. I'm wondering if someone could help me with a graphics driver problem I've been having.
[04:02] <linuxguy2009> urifu: Fire away!
[04:02] <mcrawfor> ubottu: firefox 3.5
[04:02] <Tfnrsh> like someone told me firefox would play lfash videos without flash support
[04:02] <CShadowRun> Can anyone tell me where the sessions dialog has gone? I need to stop gnome-panel from restarting so i can replace it with AWN.
[04:02] <eli_> Hi, could you help me firewall setting?
[04:02] <mcrawfor> ubottu: firefox-3.5
[04:03] <linuxguy2009> CShadowRun: Startup applications under preferences
[04:03] <CShadowRun> linuxguy2009, nope, that doesn't have any session control
[04:03] <kfan> why youtube choppy?
[04:03] <urifu> Ok. I have an ATI Radeon HD 4870, and upon installing Ubuntu, it requests that I install restricted drivers to use the full potential of the card. Upon installing the drivers, my display flickers on startup and whenever I attempt to change the screen resolution.
[04:04] <duncan> hello
[04:04] <linuxguy2009> CShadowRun: You can select what apps startup. What else do you want?
[04:04] <CShadowRun> linuxguy2009, i want the sessions menu, so that i can stop gnome-panel from automatically being restarted
[04:04] <urifu> I tried installing other drivers, and once I reboot after installing them, Ubuntu won't even boot. All I get is a garbled screen.
[04:05] <duncan> Anyone know if the 9.10 alpha will update between each phase or do I need to update it manually?
[04:05] <jrib> !karmic | duncan
[04:05] <duncan> thanks
[04:05] <linuxguy2009> CShadowRun: I belive gnome panel has to be running or else you cant get to a terminal or anything else for that matter.
[04:06] <linuxguy2009> CShadowRun: You would render your desktop useless.
[04:06] <thiebaude> duncan, when 9.10 comes out you upgrade from 9.04 if you want
[04:06] <CShadowRun> linuxguy2009, not really, theres plenty of alternatives (awn, cairo, etc)
[04:06] <CShadowRun> i'm planning to use awn or cairo, havn't decided yet
[04:06] <linuxguy2009> CShadowRun: If your Cairo crashes how do you restart it without gnme panel menus?
[04:06] <kfan> is awn a ram eater?
[04:06] <j0rd_> can someone recommend a good virtualization system. I need to run windows (under my linux) for the adobe CS suite and Internet Explorer (web testing)
[04:06] <CShadowRun> linuxguy2009, from a tty?
[04:07] <duncan> thiebaude: I know that I can upgrade when it is released, just that 9.04 uses an older version of the kernel that has issues with my laptops chipset that was fixed in 2.6.30
[04:07] <jrib> !vbox | j0rd_
[04:07] <linuxguy2009> CShadowRun: What the hell is a TTY?
[04:07] <CShadowRun> linuxguy2009, or even better, the same way that gnome-panel restarts itself, if the dialog wasn't removed -.-
[04:07] <hansolo6691>
[04:07] <urifu> Is there some other kind of driver that I need to install to get my video card to work?
[04:07] <j0rd_> jrib: do you use it?
[04:07] <jrib> j0rd_: sure
[04:07] <hansolo6691>
[04:07] <j0rd_> jrib: better than vmware?
[04:07] <CShadowRun> linuxguy2009, ctrl + alt + FX allows you to switch ttys
[04:07] <CShadowRun> you are in TTY 7
[04:07] <jrib> j0rd_: try both and use what is better for you
[04:07] <linuxguy2009> CShadowRun: Just change desktop environments. Easy as that. You cant remove gnome panel.
[04:08] <CShadowRun> linuxguy2009, you used to be able to, before jaunty -.-
[04:08] <kfan> i need a virtual  program for windows also but with USB
[04:08] <CShadowRun> it used to be right there in the sessions dialog
[04:08] <j0rd_> jrib: don't have that kind of time, which is why i'm asking here for advice
[04:08] <linuxguy2009> CShadowRun: Google it. I did and couldnt find anything before.
[04:08] <j0rd_> jrib: but i'll look into vbox and how it works with Adobe CS
[04:08] <j0rd_> jrib: thanks
[04:08] <jrib> j0rd_: vbox should work fine
[04:08] <CShadowRun> linuxguy2009, i've done alot of googling unfortunatly it's all out of date information for intrepid and below, where the sessions dialog is still there
[04:08] <bastidrazor> linuxguy2009, you can stop using the panels.
[04:09] <linuxguy2009> bastidrazor: K dude fill us in.
[04:09] <duncan> or better yet is there a simple way to upgade the 9.04 kernel to 2.6.30?
[04:09] <duncan> without breaking everything
[04:09] <kfan> does vbox have usb support?
[04:09] <thiebaude> duncan, yea you can but i dont have a link
[04:09] <iman> hay dear
[04:09] <bastidrazor> linuxguy2009, right click the panel and select delete. panel in gone.
[04:09] <linuxguy2009> kfan: The on ein the repos no. On vbox.org yes.
[04:09] <hansolo669>
[04:09] <kfan> k
[04:10] <boss_mc> will firefox3.5 be the default in karmic does anyone know?
[04:10] <CShadowRun> bastid_razor, hehe, i actually need to stop the gnome-panel process, as it takes the notification area
[04:10] <linuxguy2009> bastidrazor: Yeah that kills one. What about the second. hehe
[04:10] <linuxguy2009> bastidrazor: Brickwalled
[04:10] <jrib> boss_mc: #ubuntu+1 for karmic discussion please
[04:10] <thiebaude> boss_mc, yes it will
[04:10] <boss_mc> jrib: ah, forgot that one, going there now, cheers
[04:11] <linuxguy2009> boss_mc: I think theres an Ubuntu+1 room or something for that.
[04:12] <bastidrazor> CShadowRun, you can delete the applet on the top panel that has notificatoins
[04:12] <urifu> Is there any way I can get my ATI Radeon HD 4870 working on Ubuntu with fan control as well? without screen flickering or garbled color screen on boot?
[04:12] <LinuxGold> hmm...
[04:12] <urifu> I'm on Windows right now, too. Ubuntu won't even boot.
[04:12] <LinuxGold> got ubuntu server (x64) installed into my laptop, trying to figure out how to apt-get install kubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386
[04:12] <CShadowRun> bastidrazor, yea, that makes gnome-panel crash (and then repeatidly crash and restart itself), gotta love gnome-panel. That's why i'm trying to get rid of it...it's so buggy -.-
[04:12] <LinuxGold> Burned that into CD
[04:12] <linuxguy2009> urifu: 9.04 wont boot?
[04:13] <urifu> Every time I boot I get garbled colors. I installed CCC from Synaptic and after I rebooted, all I got was garbled color and no login screen. I saw the Ubuntu loading screen though.
[04:13] <LinuxGold> my laptop isn't connected via wireless yet, so no network connection to do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:14] <linuxguy2009> CShadowRun: Gnome panel keep reapearing not cause of a bug. Its programmed into it. Panel is a must have.
[04:14] <CShadowRun> linuxguy2009 no it's not, theres many, many alternatives to gnome-panel
[04:14] <linuxguy2009> CShadowRun: i didnt say there wasnt.