[00:00] <fsat> JayBau: bolt are install windows and linux?
[00:00] <dia> JayBau, learn to program!
[00:00] <fsat> learn to program in linux?
[00:01] <JayBau> I'm a certified J2EE and Zend, not sure what you mean but not planning to create my own game in linux
[00:01] <i_am_a_dunce> TJ-, mind if I ask for a bit of bash-fu from you?
[00:01] <JayBau> I just want to play somthing ^_^
[00:02] <protn> heyhey
[00:02] <i_am_a_dunce> it appears as though my mp4's and mp3's may have gotten mixed up
[00:02] <fsat> sorry i dont know search on web game creator in linux
[00:02] <i_am_a_dunce> or sorry m4a's and mp3's
[00:02] <protn> whats the easy way to see NEC files as  gallery in ubuntu?
[00:02] <i_am_a_dunce> so ... do you know if there's a way to rename all things with content audio/mp4 to be .mp4
[00:02] <i_am_a_dunce> and all things with content audio/mpeg to audio.mp3
[00:02] <i_am_a_dunce> ?
[00:03] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: sure... hang on whilst I test :)
[00:04] <i_am_a_dunce> really appreciate it man
[00:04] <fsat> protn look at http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/xnecview.1.html
[00:05] <dia> JayBau, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xonotic pretty fun
[00:05] <fsat> protn use xnecview program
[00:08] <JayBau> dia: thanks, will check
[00:10] <nnull> what vnc viewer can i use from windows to remote desktop into ubuntu, i turned off encryption still says invails security type weith 3 different clients?
[00:11] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: try this, it's in DEBUG mode for now to avoid making changes until you can confirm it will do the correct thing.
[00:11] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce:     DEBUG=echo; OLDIFS=$IFS; IFS=:; while read filename mime; do [ -n ${DEBUG} ] && echo Processing $mime $filename; [ "xaudio/mp4" = "x${mime}" ] && ${DEBUG} mv "${filename}" "${filename}.mp4"; [ "xaudio/mpeg" = "${mime}" ] && ${DEBUG} mv "$filename" "${filename}.mp3"; done < <( find $HOME/Music -type f -execdir file --mime-type {} \;)
[00:12] <i_am_a_dunce> one second, trying now :)
[00:12] <fsat> nnull look at http://www.howtogeek.com/170870/5-ways-to-run-linux-software-on-windows/
[00:13] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: if you're *sure* it is correct, then change DEBUG=echo to just DEBUG=""
[00:13] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: you may need to adjust the $HOME/Music path that 'find' is operating from
[00:13] <nimbiotics> I have an Ubuntu 14.04LTS VBox. A while ago I accessed it via ssh with Putty and all went well but now I cannot access my ubuntu VBox. I enter my passwords, it plays the music indicating I'm logged in, clears the screen and then goes back to the login screen. I can still access my VBox via ssh with Putty, but I cannot access it directly. Any ideas how to fix this? TIA!
[00:13] <nnull> fsat, vnc is linux software? o_0
[00:13] <i_am_a_dunce> O_o some of these are very strangely saying they're application/octet-stream
[00:13] <i_am_a_dunce> the vast majority are right
[00:14] <i_am_a_dunce> but some are saying they're octet streams
[00:14] <i_am_a_dunce> lol
[00:14] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: actually, I think there is a key flaw... the find should use "-exec" now, not "-execdir"
[00:14] <fsat> look 5 different way to use linux on windows at these adresse http://www.howtogeek.com/170870/5-ways-to-run-linux-software-on-windows/ nnull
[00:14] <TJ-> Are they.. can you pastebin the output, I don't have the media files in this system to test it effectively
[00:14] <nnull> nvm was my own config error
[00:14] <nnull> thanks anyway mate
[00:15] <i_am_a_dunce> sure TJ, it's pretty massive tho 1 sec
[00:15] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: hang on then, I'll fix some bugs first :)
[00:15] <fsat> use windows to use linux loll
[00:16] <i_am_a_dunce> thank ya :)
[00:16] <i_am_a_dunce> btw, the directory is ~/Downloads/RoadTrip
[00:16] <mindbender1> I am using rsync to foo@remote to sync bar@remote files. How can I prevent rsync from chowning bar@remote files to foo
[00:18] <mindbender1> bar and foo exist on the same remote.  Set the variable DIR to the directory you want to target.
[00:24] <CeIeIibi> !OPS WAKE UP FAGGOTS
[00:24] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce:   DIR="$HOME/Music"; DEBUG=echo; OLDIFS=$IFS; IFS=:; while read filename mime; do [ -n ${DEBUG} ] && echo Processing "$DEBUG.$mime.$filename"; [ "x audio/mp4" == "x${mime}" ] && ${DEBUG} mv "${filename}" "${filename}.mp4"; [ "x audio/mpeg" == "x${mime}" ] && ${DEBUG} mv "$filename" "${filename}.mp3"; done < <( find ${DIR} -type f -exec file --mime-type {} \;); IFS=${OLDIFS}
[00:25] <fsat> mindbender1: the web is your better helper ask the good question to the search on google... it my tricks to find anser can't help you use your reasearch skill to help you sorry for my sad helping
[00:26] <i_am_a_dunce> TJ-, i think i can get it to work from here :)
[00:26] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: You'll see a "Processing ..." line for *every* file... but what you want to check is the lines reporting the "mv" commands are correct
[00:26] <i_am_a_dunce> thanks for the debug logs :)
[00:28] <mindbender1> fast: thanks for helping. I have done some research already and they have not helped. Thanks anyways.
[00:28] <i_am_a_dunce> only small bugs with yours are that it appends the .mp3, but that's very much not a big deal
[00:28] <i_am_a_dunce> cuz then i can just run mv *.mp3.mp3 *.mp3, etc.
[00:29] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: yes... i didn't want to have the script mushroom but you can add a simple test for an existing extension
[00:30] <i_am_a_dunce> yup, definitely not a big deal
[00:30] <i_am_a_dunce> you laid the ground work :)
[00:33] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce: here's how I'd do it
[00:33] <TJ-> i_am_a_dunce:   DIR="$HOME/Music"; DEBUG=echo; OLDIFS=$IFS; IFS=:; while read filename mime; do [ -n ${DEBUG} ] && echo Processing "$DEBUG.$mime.$filename"; [ "x audio/mp4" == "x${mime}" -a "${filename##*.}" != "mp4" ] && ${DEBUG} mv "${filename}" "${filename}.mp4"; [ "x audio/mpeg" = "x${mime}" -a "${filename##*.}" != "mp3" ] && ${DEBUG} mv "$filename" "${filename}.mp3"; done < <( find ${DIR} -type f -exec file --mime-type {} \;); IFS=${OLDIFS}
[00:40] <joshsyn> hi everybody, i have a quick question
[00:40] <fsat> go ahead
[00:41] <joshsyn> is it safe to uninstall grub that comes default with ubuntu LTS?
[00:41] <joshsyn> I have another linux install and I want to manage every bootsettings from the other linux
[00:41] <fsat> not really
[00:41] <joshsyn> *intalled
[00:42] <dia> joshsyn, do you understand what grub is?
[00:42] <fsat> your computer never start again ubuntu
[00:42] <dia> fsat, not true
[00:42] <joshsyn> huh why?
[00:42] <dia> you can reinstall
[00:42] <Bashing-om> joshsyn: The last linux installed defaults as the one that controls the boot process .
[00:42] <fsat> grub is boot system
[00:42] <fsat> that use ubuntu
[00:42] <dia> joshsyn, because if you don't understand what a boot loader is, you shouldn't mess with it
[00:43] <fsat> dia: i know we can reinstall
[00:43] <joshsyn> dia, how do you even jump to that conclusion
[00:43] <joshsyn> i know what bootloaders are but just wondering if ubuntu does not like it
[00:44] <joshsyn> I have archlinux installed. And I want it to manage the boot.
[00:44] <fsat> but if do this uninstall grub he'll need do use installer ubuntu to reinstall all system
[00:44] <dia> joshsyn, a lootloader is not specific to ubuntu
[00:44] <joshsyn> Bashing-om, but you can always fix it by chrooting right with a live CD?
[00:44] <dia> joshsyn, blah, i mean grub is not specific to ubuntu, you can use any bootloader
[00:44] <TJ-> joshsyn: that should be fine, assuming the Arch install of grub does an os-probe and adds the Ubuntu installation to grub.cfg
[00:45] <indy_>  I just replaced the kernel on my Ubuntu 14.04 from 3.19 to 4.1. How can disable updates for 3.19 and receive updates for kernel 4.1? any help wld be greatly apprecaited
[00:45] <joshsyn> TJ-, yes it does
[00:45] <joshsyn> everyone, actually I have already done so. My grub installed in arch is able to probe every linux installations and write to grub.cfg
[00:46] <joshsyn> I just don't see the purpose of having grub2 installed in ubuntu as well
[00:46] <joshsyn> so I purged it
[00:46] <TJ-> joshsyn: if you decide to remove the Ubuntu packages, take precautions so it doesn't as part of the removal make changes to the /boot/grub/
[00:46] <dia> joshsyn, just make sure the kernel still there lol
[00:47] <fsat> i think that i don't have enough linux skills to help really
[00:47] <fsat> sorry
[00:47] <joshsyn> TJ-, so you mean during upgrade process for ubuntu it can still write to /boot/grub ?
[00:47] <joshsyn> dia, yeah ;) ubuntu kernel is safe
[00:48] <joshsyn> its a UEFI system.
[00:48] <dia> joshsyn, Actually... every kernel upgrade runs grubs config...
[00:48] <TJ-> joshsyn: No, I was concerned that when you removed/purged Ubuntu's grub it might remove some of the grub files from /boot/grub/, and /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/
[00:49] <fsat> and what to be usefull to uninstall grub boot system? i don't understand why do this?
[00:49] <TJ-> dia: not if grub isn't installed ... grub is triggered by hook scripts it installs
[00:49] <dia> TJ-, Oh! didn't know that.
[00:50] <indy_> any suggestion?
[00:50] <joshsyn> great
[00:50] <TJ-> fsat: joshsyn has multiple Linux operating systems installed. Only one needs to manage the boot-loader/manager
[00:51] <joshsyn> yeah so far, its working great. I was just worried it might cause harm during upgrades.
[00:51] <joshsyn> thanks all, especially TJ-
[00:51] <dia> joshsyn, you could just use your computers UEFI to boot the kernel stub directly, i did that with gentoo
[00:52] <joshsyn> dia, yeah but I still need a manager to manage 2 linux + 1 windows
[00:52] <TJ-> joshsyn: If it's UEFI, then Windows doesn't need to be known to GRUB at all
[00:53] <fsat> and linux don't give the chance to give the starter menu to select which system operating to start at begin ex: install ubuntu server 12... and lubuntu the system ask the choice between bolt!
[00:56] <wileee> fsat, Unless you messed with the grub timeout you can see it, if you want, if that's the point.
[00:57] <TJ-> wileee:  I think fsat is referring to doing a direct UEFI > Linux kernel boot, without GRUB
[00:57] <wileee> Ah, my mistake.
[00:58] <fsat> wileee: i understand now what is the advantage
[01:00] <joshsyn> TJ- correct about windows. However I still want to have the option of choosing every OS installed at startup
[01:00] <wileee> fsat, I missed the uefi deceleration, so I was wrong, in the context it seems, sorry about that.
[01:00] <joshsyn> os-probe is able to find windows installation as well and it just chainloads the EFI stub into grub settings
[01:02] <fsat> i have made a test by curiosity to install ubuntu server 12.10 and lubuntu 14.04 and when i have restart the computer i have the choice to start which one i want... it's why i have think it's given by bolt grub boot installed when i have made installation...?
[01:02] <TJ-> joshsyn: Yes... however with UEFI its boot manager can totally replace the GRUB boot-manager functionality for non-legacy booting.  However, if you're using custom configurations such as encryption then a separate boot-loader is still necessary
[01:05] <joshsyn> TJ-, correct. In my BIOS settings, it provides me with option to select either grubx64.efi or bootx64.efi. I can boot to Windows directly with bootx64.efi. However if I want to have a choice at startup grub/bootloaders are the only way. Or else I'd have to go to BIOS everytime just to boot windows.
[01:06] <sloantothebone> Has anybody experienced their mouse not being able to click unless the mouse isnt moving?
[01:06] <TJ-> joshsyn: Yes, for systems that don't allow you to force the boot-menu to show on every boot (as opposed to pressing the manual boot-menu key)
[01:06] <sloantothebone> It clicks after a second or two, though
[01:07] <TJ-> sloantothebone: is it PS/2 or USB?
[01:07] <sloantothebone> Idk, its a touchpad mouse on my laptop
[01:07] <sloantothebone> I have a good feeling a restart will fix it
[01:08] <sloantothebone> If not I guess my mouse is rekt
[01:08] <TJ-> sloantothebone: possibly connected via the old PS/2 i8042 chip. There are some workarounds for those kind of problems. Can you "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" ?
[01:08] <joshsyn> yes, my system happen to fall into that category :P I know most of Asus boards do gives you options. Thanks though
[01:09] <TJ-> joshh20: I prefer to have GRUB - it makes FD encryption simple
[01:10] <ishamo> How can I find this file in ubuntu ? "#include <sys/epoll.h>"
[01:10] <ishamo> I wan't to find the "epoll.h" file.
[01:11] <TJ-> ishamo: Check "/usr/include/sys/epoll.h"
[01:11] <ishamo> Thank you .
[01:11] <joshsyn> Wondering if its possible to remove the rounded corners in unity?
[01:11] <joshsyn> unity windows to be exact
[01:11]  * TJ- hands joshsyn a rasp
[01:13] <ishamo> TJ-, There is not a dir named 'sys' under /usr/include
[01:13] <TJ-> ishamo: then you haven't installed the -dev package that the source you are trying to build, requires
[01:14] <joshsyn> :P. I think I have to edit some CSS files
[01:14] <TJ-> ishamo: that file comes from libc6-dev
[01:15] <crazyhorse18> hi i created a user.. and added the user to a group using the command sudo usermod -a -G repo myusername
[01:16] <crazyhorse18> if i type, groups myusername, i see repo in the list...
[01:16] <Tebbo> I'm experiencing an exceptional amount of screen tearing when using chrome on 14.04
[01:16] <Tebbo> anyone else having this issue?
[01:16] <crazyhorse18> i have a directory /storage/repo/packages  which has  770+ root:repo
[01:16] <Tebbo> (amd64 w/ radeon ati)
[01:17] <indy_>  I just replaced the kernel on my Ubuntu 14.04 from 3.19 to 4.1. How can disable updates for 3.19 and receive updates for kernel 4.1? any help wld be greatly apprecaited
[01:17] <crazyhorse18> Tebbo, yes.. intel cpu with intel graphics card.. it's total s**t.. i had the same problem on 12.04 and i have the problem on 15.04
[01:17] <TJ-> crazyhorse18: did the user log-out and log-in again to make the new group active?
[01:18] <crazyhorse18> er
[01:18] <crazyhorse18> maybe not.. let me try
[01:18] <Tebbo> did you ever fix it?
[01:18] <crazyhorse18> TJ-, that was it
[01:18] <ishamo> TJ-,  But I could compile my code when I use the function "epoll_create(int size)"
[01:18] <crazyhorse18> Tebbo, no i have the problem every single day.. which is awful because i'm a webdev
[01:18] <TJ-> crazyhorse18: it usually is :)
[01:19] <crazyhorse18> TJ-, anyway to force refresh it.. i'm writing scritps
[01:19] <Tebbo> lol i'm a webdev too
[01:19] <Tebbo> welcome to the club
[01:19] <ishamo> TJ-,  But I could compile my code when I use the function "epoll_create(int size)"
[01:19] <Tebbo> 14.04 is very slow compared to win7 install i had
[01:20] <crazyhorse18> Tebbo, yeah i've heard it's a problem with chrome and linux.. things i tried (but i have no scientific evidence that shows this makes any difference).. is goto settings > privacy.. turn off prefetch resources
[01:20] <TJ-> ishamo: the included directories are controlled by the Makefile. Usually the build-depends are indicated by the configure script
[01:21] <crazyhorse18> Tebbo, do you have any unsual network setups or poor internet access?
[01:21] <Tebbo> nah, it's pretty standard here
[01:21] <Tebbo> ISP sucks dick, but that's common
[01:21] <crazyhorse18> Tebbo, i run everything over a vpn, when the vpn drops out all of chrome freezes
[01:21] <ishamo> TJ-, Oh. thanks.
[01:21] <crazyhorse18> Tebbo, i've actually considered switching development to osx because of this issue
[01:22] <Tebbo> yeah i'm thinking of re-installing win
[01:22] <fsat> indy_ i don't if i will help you but i do: sudo apt-get update and after: sudo apt-get upgrade ,for my computer and i received they update system
[01:22] <Tebbo> but honestly, I've noticed it only happens when loading video codecs or html5 webm's
[01:23] <crazyhorse18> Tebbo, problem with developing under windows is lots of the tools don't work as well
[01:23] <crazyhorse18> Tebbo, or at all
[01:23] <Tebbo> whaaaa?
[01:23] <Tebbo> I find the opposite to be true
[01:23] <Tebbo> idk what tools you are using
[01:23] <Tebbo> I generally don't use a complex ide tho
[01:24] <bazhang> Tebbo, crazyhorse18 lets get back on topic please
[01:24] <crazyhorse18> Tebbo, i suppose it depends what your deploying too.. our servers are all unix based.
[01:24] <crazyhorse18> bazhang, yeah ok
[01:24] <Tebbo> oh we use shared hosting
[01:24] <Tebbo> but yeah I imagined chrome to work well but alas it does not
[01:24] <Tebbo> is opera any better?
[01:24] <crazyhorse18> chrome under ubuntu is a PoS and freezes non stop all the time, i have had this problem for 4 years across 3 different versions of ubuntu and nothing i have tried fixes it
[01:24] <Tebbo> 14.04 performance is meh tbh
[01:25] <indy_> Fsat- I've been updating the system, but no luck yet.  Thanks for your help
[01:25] <crazyhorse18> Tebbo, the other thing i've noticed is that if the internet connection is used to capacity that everything freezes
[01:25] <crazyhorse18> Tebbo, and all of the windows go white.. hvae you seen the same issue?
[01:26] <Tebbo> nah, I haven'ted
[01:26] <Tebbo> but I have bandwith drops all the time
[01:26] <crazyhorse18> it's annoying how every tab is in a separate thread, but they all crash/freeze anyway
[01:28] <xochilpili> hi all
[01:29] <ishamo> TJ-, I checked the synaptic and find that I have installed the libc6-dev. But I still can't find the directory "sys" under "/usr/include". I think that the dir "sys" may be at somewhere else?
[01:29] <fowl> audio skips in ubuntu 15.04 how what do i fix it installing all the
[01:29] <fsat> i do it everyday manually the update and upgrade to be sure to be up to date system indy_
[01:30] <TJ-> ishamo: if the system is amd64, then it'll be "/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/sys/epoll.h" - use "dpkg -S sys/epoll.h"
[01:30] <xochilpili> im having issues with a preseed file, i always got an error in "manual select packages" ; if i skip manually because i just want a minimal instalation, it never boots just the blinking cursor "_"
[01:30] <xochilpili> any hand?
[01:31] <indy_> yes- same here.. maybe there are no updates for the new kernel.. I'll keep updating. Tks
[01:32] <xochilpili> anyone?
[01:32] <ishamo> Oh. Yes. I found it. my system is amd64. Thank you very much.
[01:41] <Nectar> Anyone have any music player recommendations?
[01:42] <Walkerdine> Does anyone know why I wouldn't be able to just switch back to the open source video drivers because mine is stuck on the "Use manually installed drivers" and I cant switch it back
[01:43] <bazhang> !players | Nectar
[01:43] <bazhang> try some and see what suits you best Nectar
[01:43] <Nectar> cheers
[01:43] <bazhang> audacious is very close to winamp Nectar
[01:52] <Walkerdine> Why is ubuntu saying my display is "built-in"?
[01:57] <Walkerdine> Well I can't stand having my display be like this so I guess I gotta reinstall ubuntu
[02:01] <Voyage> how to hibernate?
[02:03] <wileee> Voyage, Not in the off/restart menu?
[02:04] <wileee> Voyage, Not sure your question, here is info that may be relevant, not it is for 14.04, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/enable-hibernate-ubuntu-14-04/
[02:05] <wileee> note*
[02:05] <joshsyn> Is there a way to check the statistics of a launchpad/ppa's team? The popularity, number of downloads, etc
[02:08] <chrisburton> Can someone help me figure out the command to check user and group inside a directory?
[02:10] <Gerowen> What happened to the ability to open new tabs in the default terminal?
[02:12] <Walkerdine> Does anyone know why I can't select any of the other options?
[02:12] <Walkerdine> http://i.imgur.com/iCrCzo5.png
[02:15] <is8ac> In Gnome terminal ctrl + shift + T opens a new tab.
[02:17] <statustaker> Hey, I am pretty new to linux and ubuntu. What are some of your favorite things you can do with it?
[02:20] <Gerowen> statustaker: Just about everything really.  Lately I've been playing through Brutal Legend on Steam, and Final Fantasy 7 on a Playstation emulator.
[02:20] <ishamo> statustaker, learn  programming ^_*
[02:21] <Gerowen> statustaker: And there's a plethora of good development tools, free of charge, and open source.
[02:21] <statustaker> Gerowen- I have been doing the same thing
[02:21] <joshsyn> I am using Ubuntu rather than other distros, especially cause of the stability of the LTS releases
[02:22] <statustaker> I am working on my programming python Ruby Javascript C+
[02:22] <somsip> !ot | statustaker
[02:23] <statustaker> Sorry about that
[02:24] <wileee> Walkerdine, Have you had a chance to address how that driver is there, and the graphic hardware shown in 'lspci' run in terminal?
[02:24] <Walkerdine> uh well I'm not sure what I did but I tried reinstalling the amd one and now I can select them again
[02:25] <Walkerdine> but for some reason its still detecting my display as "built-in" which it wasn't before
[02:25] <Walkerdine> Its showing I have a 4:3 screen and the resolution is crappy when I have a 1080p monitor
[02:25] <wileee> Walkerdine, where is this shown?
[02:25] <Leverquin> how much space on C: HDD i need to instal ubuntu 14.04? and do i need to make them split on C and D: again or what?
[02:26] <Walkerdine> Just kidding it reverted! What the heck. Under software and updates and then additional drivers
[02:26] <wileee> Leverquin, c & d are to vague
[02:26] <somsip> Leverquin: you need a separate partition for ubuntu.
[02:27] <wileee> not used inn linux
[02:27] <Leverquin> how to saperate?
[02:27] <Leverquin> i have saperated on win but i will keep win and just add ubuntu
[02:27] <Walkerdine> How do I uninstall mesa
[02:27] <is8ac> Leverquin, 8GB should be enough space for ubuntu.
[02:27] <Leverquin> so how to seperate hdd? after instalation or what?
[02:28] <wileee> Leverquin, Per chance have you been looking at Wubi
[02:28] <Leverquin> what is wubi?
[02:28] <somsip> !wubi | Leverquin
[02:28] <Leverquin> oh i see
[02:28] <wileee> Leverquin, not important just ruling it out.
[02:29] <Leverquin> !install
[02:29] <Walkerdine> Wileee: Im not sure what Im looking for
[02:30] <wileee> Walkerdine, What is on the computer now?
[02:30] <Leverquin> thanks guys
[02:30] <Walkerdine> Not sure how to tell
[02:30] <Walkerdine> Im new to this
[02:30] <wileee> Walkerdine, what operating system is installed on the computer?
[02:30] <Walkerdine> Ubuntu
[02:31] <Walkerdine> 14.04
[02:31] <wileee> Walkerdine, Your inquiry reads a you need help to install.
[02:31] <wileee> as*
[02:32] <is8ac> Leverquin, In the Linux world, disks are named /dev/sda, /dev/sdb etc, and the partitions on them are names /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2.
[02:32] <Walkerdine> No I need help figuring out why my video drivers are messed up
[02:32] <wileee> Walkerdine, Sorry but you addressed me I was helping another and doing 5 other things, ignore me.
[02:32] <Walkerdine> Its okay
[02:32] <Shed-34046> is ubuntu good enough to use on main machine that i use everyday
[02:33] <wileee> Walkerdine, Don't ask random helpers here.
[02:33] <Shed-34046> by good i mean stable enough, have plenty of browsers, music players, editors, etc.
[02:34] <Walkerdine> What does that mean
[02:34] <Shed-34046> editors like video editing and img and video makers
[02:34] <Walkerdine> People are going to make me do crap I shouldnt?
[02:34] <artois> Shed-34046: yup
[02:34] <Shed-34046> artois i heard its more stable than windows lol
[02:35] <kokut> Hello, how can i add users to the users with permissions "list" for a directory? because if i add myself to the user group and then chown -R :user-group it doesn't add persmissions to other users in the same group
[02:35] <wafflejock> Shed-34046: yeah the only thing to keep in mind is that programs compiled for running on windows won't run easily on ubuntu but there are alternatives available to handle tasks that most users do
[02:36] <Shed-34046> I do most things in firefox :)
[02:36] <wileee> Walkerdine, Actually I was helping but your response had nothing to do with my last question, I have a brain about the size of a walnut, heh.....so
[02:36] <wafflejock> Shed-34046: by default you'll have libreoffice which covers the office basics (word prorcessing etc.), you have FF out of the box, if you want a good image editor check out gimp, krita, and inkscape, for video editing kdenlive is a pretty good one
[02:36] <is8ac> Shed-34046, High end video editing is somewhat lacking on Linux, but 3D animation, music, and image editing is well supported and stable.
[02:37] <artois> Shed-34046: it is, not that that's saying much
[02:37] <Walkerdine> I'm really confuseder
[02:38] <artois> is8ac: oh yeah? What video editors have you used?
[02:38] <Walkerdine> Seriously considering just reinstalling since I just installed linux anyway
[02:38] <artois> Walkerdine: as long as the problem isn't to do with something that happened during installation and might just happen again
[02:38] <artois> Walkerdine: that might save the most time
[02:39] <wafflejock> Walkerdine: if you installed some binary drivers and can't uninstall them with the binary you downloaded then that's probably your easiest route to revert
[02:39] <artois> is that all that happened?
[02:39] <wileee> Walkerdine, you mention AMD, as I understand you might see if the card has drivers, this brand has issues at times.
[02:39] <is8ac> artois, just saying that foss video editing software is't at the same level of polish as, say blender or gimp.
[02:40] <Walkerdine> I installed the drivers from the website again but then it just reverted back to the problem drivers
[02:40] <artois> is8ac: sure it is
[02:40] <artois> arguably farther
[02:40] <Walkerdine> I watched my screen squish
[02:40] <wafflejock> artois: what video editor do you use?
[02:40] <is8ac> artois, what video editors should I try out?
[02:41] <wafflejock> artois: I've done some 3D things with blender and seen some cool things done in terms of video editing in there but never groked it
[02:41] <wileee> Walkerdine, Have you named the hardware beyond a name yet, should be in the list made when running lspci in the ubuntu terminal, really key info usually.
[02:41] <kokut> please anyone http://goo.gl/5av04o i need to add permissions to a whole group for a path
[02:41] <artois> is8ac: to do what?
[02:41] <Walkerdine> Radeon HD 5770 is my video card
[02:41] <artois> wafflejock: ffmpeg does most of the things I need, but it's not exactly a "video editor"
[02:42] <artois> why you looking for a video editor?
[02:42] <wafflejock> artois: ah, yeah kdenlive is good for video editing
[02:42] <Walkerdine> I have a short history of all my commands if you want to look at them
[02:42] <wafflejock> eh who knows making YouTube vids or whatever
[02:42] <wileee> Walkerdine, hold that to your chest and include it with your inquiries, if you continue. ;)
[02:42] <artois> yeah kdenlive should be fine for that
[02:42] <artois> there are beefier editors, but they're for like, beefier tasks
[02:42] <wafflejock> artois: yeah proprietary stuff
[02:42] <Walkerdine> Can I reinstall linux without changing my files
[02:43] <is8ac> artois, video editing software, I've tried openshot and pitivi, are there others that I should try?
[02:43] <Walkerdine> i don't wanna spend 5 hours waiting for my files to transfer again
[02:43] <artois> wafflejock: proprietary stuff?
[02:43] <artois> is8ac: for what, making a professional movie?
[02:44] <artois> is8ac: cinelerra is probably at the top, but it's overkill for almost everyone
[02:44] <wileee> Walkerdine, This seems relevant, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[02:45] <wafflejock> artois: believe http://www.lwks.com/index.php is proprietary think there are a few others
[02:45] <is8ac> @artois thanks, for the information.
[02:45] <wafflejock> artois: no doubt there are a few other foss options as well
[02:48] <artois> ah, just wasn't sure if you were talking about video editors still =)
[02:48] <Walkerdine> Okay it is giving me something that its not supposed to
[02:48] <Walkerdine> and for some reason my openGL is set to VM ware something
[02:49] <is8ac> Walkerdine, if you uncheck the "format disk" option when you reinstall, then all you files and settings should be preserved. Do a backup to be on the safe side.
[02:49] <Bashing-om> Walkerdine: Any return from terminal command ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' ( there may be no proprietary driver for the 5770 ??)  ?
[02:51] <FFForever> Hey hey. How well does Ubuntu play in dual GPU setups by different vendors? I have my integrated graphics (intel 4000 series), and an r9 270x
[02:54] <Walkerdine> I installed the drivers from the amd website and then rebooted
[02:54] <Walkerdine> The screen looked fine until it randomly changed
[02:56] <is8ac> randomly changes? how?
[02:57] <YokoBR> hi guys
[02:58] <fabzor3> hi
[02:58] <fabzor3> whats up
[02:58] <Walkerdine> I'm not entirely sure but it says I'm using "Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.5, 128 bits)" Which is apparently a problem
[02:58] <YokoBR> everytime i boot, i get stuck on check disk and then i have to type systemctl default to continue :(
[02:58] <fabzor3> isnt gallium an intel video driver?
[02:59] <fabzor3> YokoBR, so is the program called check disk or fsck?
[02:59] <YokoBR> fabzor3: amd
[02:59] <wileee> YokoBR, fsck?
[02:59] <YokoBR> i meant disk checking
[02:59] <YokoBR> it runs until 15%
[02:59] <fabzor3> well
[03:00] <fabzor3> elaborate
[03:00] <YokoBR> then i get on that screen
[03:00] <FSMO> Is ubuntu HIPPA conpliant?
[03:00] <fabzor3> does it detect errors, does it need to run?
[03:00] <fabzor3> you may have to run fsck in recovery mode to be safe and check your disk
[03:01] <YokoBR> hmm
[03:01] <Shed-34046> If windows is installed in UEFI could i switch to legacy BIOS mode and install ubuntu? o.o
[03:01] <fabzor3> YokoBR, reboot into recovery mode
[03:01] <fabzor3> wait wait before you do that
[03:01] <fabzor3> sudo passwd root
[03:01] <fabzor3> and set a root password
[03:02] <fabzor3> way easier than sudo for root stuff
[03:02] <wileee> YokoBR, pastebin you fstab  cat /etc/fstab
[03:02] <wileee> fabzor3, no root password setting please
[03:02] <cfhowlett> !root | fabzor3
[03:02] <fabzor3> why not?
[03:03] <fabzor3> no i mean set once
[03:03] <FSMO> Is ubuntu HIPPA conpliant?
[03:03] <fabzor3> sometimes, even in a ubuntu system you need a root password for disk recovery
[03:03] <artois> FSMO: it's 'HIPAA'
[03:03] <cfhowlett> FSMO, http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/hipaa/faq/securityrule/2014.html
[03:03] <FSMO> artois: Thanks
[03:03] <fabzor3> once when I was starting a server after a hard disk crash it said enter root password to continue
[03:04] <fabzor3> I just think its a good idea for safety is all
[03:05] <kokut> hello i need to fix permissions for a directory owner by a group, http://goo.gl/vTxV4s its annoying to be having to chown the directory every time i have to do things with different applications
[03:05] <kokut> owned^
[03:05] <fabzor3> you can use chown with -R for recursive
[03:06] <kokut> fabzor3: yea i know but for some reason its not giving permissions to all users in the group
[03:06] <fabzor3> are you specifying the username
[03:06] <kokut> so i have to be switching between user:group-name and user-2:group-name all the time
[03:06] <kokut> no i want all users in the group to have permissions
[03:06] <FSMO> cfhowlett: Does all of that lawyer talk mean it is under a non-committal statement
[03:06] <fabzor3> chown means change owner (to  someone) so you have to specify the user to change the owner to
[03:07] <wafflejock> fabzor3: chown can change the group as well
[03:07] <fabzor3> you probably want chmod instead
[03:07] <fabzor3> oh sweet there you go then
[03:07] <Walkerdine> Alright I give up
[03:07] <wafflejock> sudo chown -R user:group targetFolder
[03:07] <Walkerdine> I could have had everything reconfigured and working again by now
[03:07] <wafflejock> that'll update the user/group for a folder and all the files
[03:08] <ablest1980> how do i get google chrome browser?
[03:08] <ablest1980> for ubuntu
[03:08] <cfhowlett> FSMO, ubuntu can be configured as hippa compliant + consult a lawyer.  also I searched for hippa + medical + ubuntu and found some promising suggestions
[03:08] <fabzor3> by downloding it from the package manager
[03:08] <wafflejock> then chmod for what the group can do can do like sudo chmod -R g+wrx targetFolder
[03:08] <fabzor3> sudo apt-get install chromium-browaer
[03:08] <wafflejock> kokut: ^^
[03:08] <xangua> ablest1980: Google Google chrome and download it
[03:08] <wileee> ablest1980, Google has a deb download
[03:08] <ablest1980> ok
[03:08] <fabzor3> or get the official one for ubuntu if you want netflix to work better
[03:09] <FSMO> cfhowlett: thanks for the advice
[03:09] <fabzor3> from the chrome page
[03:09] <kokut> wafflejock:  but i dont want to give permission to a freaking user i want to give permission to the whole group its not freaking working!!
[03:09] <wafflejock> kokut: calm down I'm trying to help you here but no reason to panic :)
[03:09] <fabzor3> fight fight fight
[03:09] <is8ac> ablest1900, you can install chromium with apt-get, but Google chrome requires a deb from the downloads page.
[03:09] <wafflejock> kokut: see the chmod I wrote
[03:09] <fabzor3> kick and punch us
[03:10] <kokut> wafflejock: i already chmod -R 775 /path/ isnt that enough?
[03:10] <fabzor3> demand you money back
[03:10] <wafflejock> kokut: sudo chmod -R g+rwx foldername, <-- that will update the group permissions to add read write and execute so anyone in the group can do those
[03:10] <fabzor3> wait up lets see the helps
[03:10] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | fabzor3,
[03:10] <wafflejock> kokut: did you do the chown as well for the group?
[03:11] <fabzor3> apologies
[03:11] <fabzor3> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[03:11] <kokut> wafflejock: still not working
[03:11] <wafflejock> kokut: if the files have the correct user/group owner and the correct permissions for the group you'll be fine
[03:11] <wafflejock> kokut: can you pastebin ls -al, and tell me what group it should be?
[03:12] <wafflejock> and what permissions they need?
[03:12] <fabzor3> also sudo chmod 777 -R /path/to/someDirectory
[03:12] <kokut> wafflejock: is showing one of the users and the group i need all users in the freaking group
[03:12] <Earl__> EriC^^, I gave up, I tried researching to understand your solution earlier but it just went over my head
[03:12] <kokut> thats why i sudo chown :group-name /path/
[03:13] <wafflejock> kokut: the user has to be one user but if all the users are in a group and the group for the permissions is that group then you're fine
[03:13] <cfhowlett> !ports | tintedwindows,
[03:13] <wafflejock> kokut: you can't have multiple users that own a file without an acl
[03:13] <tintedwindows> what is the command to see all the ports?
[03:13] <wafflejock> !acl | kokut
[03:13] <tintedwindows> ohhh thanks you
[03:14] <kokut> wafflejock: but if i change the user it works
[03:14] <wafflejock> kokut: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissionsACLs
[03:14] <fabzor3> tintedwindows, what kind of router are you trying to configure?
[03:14] <wafflejock> kokut: are both users in the group the files are owned by?
[03:14] <kokut> wafflejock: yep
[03:14] <wafflejock> okay and does the group have the correct permissions for what you're trying to do or just the user?
[03:15] <kokut> wafflejock: i dont know
[03:15] <wafflejock> kokut: you can check the users groups with "groups [usernamehere]"
[03:15] <wafflejock> kokut: well tell me what you're trying to do and show the output of ls -al and I can tell you if the permissions are correct
[03:15] <wafflejock> kokut: otherwise I'm just guessing
[03:16] <kokut> oh well the username isnt in the group but i remember adding it earlier!
[03:16] <guest0721> why is it that the mint (rafaela based on ubuntu 14.04) repository latest flashplugin-installer is <IP_ADDRESS>1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>, but the repositories for xubuntu 14.04 (isn't this considered ubuntu?) have 11.202.442ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> which is known to be dangerous and buggy and which is now quite old?
[03:16] <wafflejock> kokut: okay well we've got the problem then probably
[03:16] <RRR> ff
[03:16] <guest0721> this is an ubuntu question (don't be upset about the mint reference, it was by contrast) the problem is only with ubuntu
[03:16] <cfhowlett> guest0721, mint is not ubuntu.  ubuntu is not mint.
[03:16] <kokut> its even in the freaking bash history, sudo useradd -g  group-name user-name
[03:17] <guest0721> cfhowlett, my question is 100% an ubuntu question I was just warding off answers like that is the latest available etc. in my reference to mint
[03:17] <kokut> useradd: user 'user-name' already exists wafflejock
[03:17] <nox_42> Is anyone familiar with using nginx to load balance two nginx web servers?
[03:18] <cfhowlett> !server | nox_42 sounds like a great server channel query if no answer here
[03:18] <wafflejock> kokut: looks okay, not sure what to tell ya on that exactly.... so it's saying they're in the group but groups doesn't show it?
[03:18] <kokut> wafflejock: exactly
[03:18] <guest0721> if you can't deal with that contrast, then remove the 'mint' reference and answer the actual question  please cfhowlet et al
[03:19] <guest0721> cfhowlett,
[03:19] <fabzor3> guest0721, because as ubuntu users we are totally down with old buggy versions of flash
[03:19] <guest0721> ok I will reword it.,  Why do the ubuntu repositories have an ancient buggy dangerous version of flashplugin-installer still?
[03:19] <wafflejock> kokut: you can check cat /etc/group, you should see them in there (can grep for the group or username like cat /etc/group | grep group)
[03:20] <fabzor3> not sure why, im running ubuntu 15 x64 and my flash works fine
[03:20] <guest0721> come on fabzor3, don't be facetious, this isn't a sarcastic answer, it is a sincere one.
[03:20] <wafflejock> kokut: not sure though maybe logout and login or something not sure why that's happening, not that I often add groups or users
[03:20] <fabzor3> is it just xubuntu that has the old one?
[03:20] <fabzor3> nah im also saying that its not THAT dangerous
[03:20] <guest0721> fabzor3, which version of flashplugin-installer do you have?
[03:20] <fabzor3> also can you somehow install the new flash?
[03:21] <guest0721> and did you get it from the repository or a tarball
[03:21] <fabzor3> err not sure, whatever one comes with ubuntu 15x64
[03:21] <fabzor3> I think its 11, but i wouldnt be suprised if its still 10
[03:21] <kokut> wafflejock: i dont know what to make of that output
[03:21] <fabzor3> no
[03:21] <zzo38> What program can I use to read Windows .HLP files in Linux?
[03:21] <fabzor3> I did however manually download chrome browser from google, the 64 bit one
[03:21] <guest0721> just lubuntu kubuntu xubuntu etc, i.e. ubuntu flavors
[03:21] <fabzor3> and that comes preloaded with pepperflash that is maintained by google
[03:21] <guest0721> all ubuntu derivatives have the new one
[03:21] <wafflejock> kokut: you should basically see a group for each line and the users in the group after the group name
[03:22] <wafflejock> kokut: http://askubuntu.com/questions/69221/adding-user-to-a-group-why-had-to-reboot
[03:22] <guest0721> yes you can use a tarball, but it gets to be a bit of a pita with so many bugfixes
[03:22] <kokut> wafflejock: no it doesnt work
[03:22] <guest0721> and so many recent dangerous versions
[03:23] <kokut> man wtf is going on why is it so complicated to freaking add a user to a group and give that group permissions to a folder
[03:23] <guest0721> I like to stick with LTS
[03:23] <fabzor3> I really think you may be running an older version of xubuntu
[03:23] <guest0721> I would n ever use anything google related fabzor3
[03:23] <fabzor3> also why not use pepperflash?
[03:23] <fabzor3> But you would use flash
[03:24] <fabzor3> and THE INTERNET
[03:24] <guest0721> touche'  yes, I know google makes it now, but there is less google in just the flash plugin than there is in their browser
[03:24] <fabzor3> sorry okay thats fair enough
[03:24] <guest0721> no you had a point fabzor3 .   but gnash just won't hack it
[03:24] <fabzor3> I liked the idea of gnash
[03:25] <is8ac> Internet without flash isn't so bad now days.
[03:25] <fabzor3> but im not sure its well developed enough
[03:25] <guest0721> oh I loved the idea of gnash
[03:25] <xangua> !info flashplugin-installer | guest0721 can you now stop please?
[03:25] <guest0721> yes it is if all your clients have totally flash websites
[03:25] <zzo38> Also how can I set the system locale?
[03:25] <fabzor3> I always used to run with flash-nonfree in my arch days
[03:25] <fabzor3> had good experiences with that
[03:25] <fabzor3> nowdays i use pepper
[03:26] <kokut> wafflejock: help me
[03:26] <kokut> wafflejock: please man
[03:26] <Earl__> Can anyone assist me in installing ubuntu to an external hard drive? I mostly need help installing the bootloader /to/ the external hard drive. I don't want to mess with window's MBR at all.
[03:26] <fabzor3> hi Earl__
[03:26] <vubuntor> anyone here knowing how to deal with boot?
[03:26] <fabzor3> hmm
[03:26] <guest0721> aha use flashplugin-nonfree instead of flashplugin-installer xangua?  is that it?
[03:26] <fabzor3> depends on your bios as well, depends if it like uefi partitions
[03:26] <guest0721> I knew there had to be a real, non facetious answer to it
[03:27] <fabzor3> lol what on earth is xaguna?
[03:27] <fabzor3> sounds like sun tan lotion
[03:27] <Earl__> Running Windows 10, so UEFI I suppose?
[03:27] <wafflejock> kokut: sorry stepped away there so logging out and logging in or rebooting didn't help?
[03:27] <fabzor3> oh jeez
[03:27] <cfhowlett> !details | vubuntor "deal with boot"?
[03:27] <vubuntor> fabzor3: my boot menu only showing windows boot manager,there is no other entry for liveusb
[03:27] <fabzor3> yeah probably uefi
[03:27] <guest0721> oh sorry not xaguna xangua
[03:27] <kokut> wafflejock: okay i'm going to reboot but idk what its going to do if i didnt change anything?
[03:27] <wafflejock> kokut: there are also some GUIs available to help make managing users and groups a bit easier
[03:27] <guest0721> my completion was failing
[03:28] <fabzor3> have you tried plugging the usb hard disk in, booting off the install dvd and then installing ubuntu to the usb drive just like you would any other drive?
[03:28] <wafflejock> kokut: okay when you do cat /etc/groups | grep thegroupnamehere
[03:28] <wafflejock> kokut: does it show both users in that line?
[03:28] <fabzor3> still equally confusing
[03:28] <wafflejock> kokut: based on what usermod is saying it sounds like they got added
[03:28] <is8ac> Earl__, I'v had good experience with using the guided install and just selecting the usb flash drive as the installation drive.
[03:28] <fabzor3> is that some whacky xubuntu thing?
[03:28] <vubuntor> never had this issue before,only happened after updating windows 10
[03:28] <fabzor3> huhuhu
[03:28] <fabzor3> microsoft stole your dingo
[03:28] <Earl__> yes fabzor3. I did successfully install Ubuntu to the extHD
[03:29] <fabzor3> play so Earl__ can you select in the bios to boot of usb
[03:29] <Earl__> However now it boots straight to grub> command line
[03:29] <kokut> wafflejock: groups username doesnt show the username in the group
[03:29] <vubuntor> now i can't even install windwos
[03:29] <guest0721> but just to verify, the answer is to use flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) (which I thought no longer existed)  instead of flashplugin-installer
[03:29] <fabzor3> or alternatively perhaps your bios sees it as a hard disk
[03:29] <wafflejock> kokut: yeah that's okay that's what the reboot should fix
[03:29] <fabzor3> look for the usb hard disk in the list of hard disks
[03:29] <Earl__> I think maybe that's where I get lost
[03:29] <zzo38> I dont want to install all of Wine
[03:29] <kokut> wafflejock:  but sudo useradd -g group-name username doesn't work
[03:29] <fabzor3> yeah keep looking in the bios
[03:29] <webber_> ola
[03:29] <kokut> wafflejock: it says user already exists
[03:30] <fabzor3> and play around with uefi vs csm boot
[03:30] <vubuntor> fabzor3: there is only Windows Boot Manager on the boot list
[03:30] <webber_> ola
[03:30] <wafflejock> kokut: right but it did the first time and now says they're already added
[03:30] <wafflejock> yeah that's okay
[03:30] <kokut> wafflejock: but that was from before
[03:30] <webber_> sou novo aqui
[03:30] <fabzor3> and perhaps disable secure boot
[03:30] <Earl__> secure boot is off
[03:30] <webber_> brasil
[03:30] <kokut> wafflejock: okay ill reboot
[03:30] <cfhowlett> !br | webber_
[03:30] <vubuntor> fastboost and secureboot is off
[03:30] <fabzor3> im suggesting your looking in the wrong list
[03:30] <fabzor3> your assuming that the drive will show up as usb
[03:31] <fabzor3> but perhaps is instead shows up in the hard disk list of bios
[03:31] <vubuntor> fabzor3: wrong? there is only one list for boot menu
[03:31] <fabzor3> yeah so theres the boot list
[03:31] <fabzor3> but also theres boot order
[03:31] <jamesd> 27
[03:31] <vubuntor> that is the boot order also
[03:31] <fabzor3> yeah but like
[03:31] <fabzor3> you want hard disk boot to be primary
[03:31] <vubuntor> i put WBM at the bottom
[03:31] <webber_> oi
[03:31] <webber_> oi
[03:31] <fabzor3> then go into hard disk ORDER and select the usb hard disk
[03:31] <webber_> oi
[03:31] <webber_> oi
[03:31] <webber_> o
[03:31] <webber_> ioi
[03:32] <Earl__> I haven't messed with csm. My goal was to make it so, if the extHD was plugged in, I'd boot straight to ubuntu, if it was unplugged, boot straight to windows. I (mis?)understood this would mean installing the bootloader to the actual extHD
[03:32] <cfhowlett> !br > webber_
[03:32] <fabzor3> yeah thats also what I though
[03:32] <fabzor3> t
[03:32] <wafflejock> kokut: the users-admin utility in the gnome-system-tools package is helpful for graphically looking at all this and modifying it too http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/gnome-system-tools
[03:32] <vubuntor> Earl__: you can boot to liveUSB?
[03:33] <vubuntor> UEFI?
[03:33] <wafflejock> kokut: you can, sudo apt-get install gnome-system-tools, then run users-admin
[03:33] <cfhowlett> Earl__, if the bootloader is on extHD and unplugged, then you can't boot anything - right?
[03:33] <kokut> wafflejock: suod usermod -a -G group user worked :\
[03:33] <fabzor3> early, you may need to reinstall ubuntu to the external hdd using a GPT partition instad of an MBR partition
[03:33] <wafflejock> kokut: ah okay you had some different command before?
[03:33] <kokut> now groups user shows the user in the group, still not having permissions tho
[03:33] <wafflejock> kokut: I thought it was the same?
[03:33] <Earl__> cfhowlett, well... the linux bootloader. Windows's own bootloader on my computer hard drive would be untouched
[03:33] <fabzor3> some new windows bioses hate mbr partitions
[03:34] <Earl__> bingo fabzor3, that may be it
[03:34] <Earl__> how do?
[03:34] <kokut> wafflejock: i was using sudo useradd -g group user
[03:34] <wafflejock> kokut: okay if the groups are right just need to get the file/folder permissions for the group right then
[03:34] <fabzor3> reinstall
[03:34] <fabzor3> and it may be in the format ubuntus drive options
[03:34] <wafflejock> kokut: ah okay right for a new user.... those commands are confusing
[03:34] <fabzor3> let me see one sec
[03:35] <vubuntor> fabzor3: Earl__  can even have LiveUSB on boot menu,howcould i not have it?
[03:35] <wafflejock> kokut: okay can use paste out your ls -al for the files you're trying to work with so I can see the permissions
[03:35] <kokut> wafflejock: well i tried sudo chown -R  :group-name /path/ and its not working
[03:35] <wafflejock> kokut: give it a user doesn't matter which one
[03:35] <HackerII> 23]mzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZP[-.0']
[03:35] <fabzor3> Earl__, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[03:35] <wafflejock> kokut: since we're going to rely on the group permissions and them being in the group we don't care
[03:36] <fabzor3> I miss mbr.. none of this crap happenned
[03:36] <kokut> wafflejock: permissions are 775 for user and group but its not working maybe i need to reboot again :\
[03:36] <Earl__> I have been to that page... It's a little to complicated for me
[03:36] <webber__> oi
[03:36] <webber__> oi
[03:36] <webber__> o
[03:36] <webber__> i
[03:36] <fabzor3> okay let me see
[03:36] <fabzor3> Earl__, http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347270713.png
[03:36] <vubuntor> Earl__: what did you do to boot and install ubuntu on EFI computer?
[03:36] <kokut> wafflejock: rebooting again
[03:36] <fabzor3> thats what you click
[03:36] <webber__> oi
[03:36] <wafflejock> okay godspeed
[03:36] <Earl__> I installed ubuntu hoping for a more newb-y linux distro xD
[03:37] <vubuntor> Earl__: I don't have liveusb on boot menu
[03:37] <Walkerdine> Yep reinstalled
[03:37] <Walkerdine> Now I can seee again :D
[03:37] <kokut> wafflejock: okay i'm going freakign nuts man whats going on
[03:37] <zzo38> I have figured out how to get rid of the default window manager and desktop environment and install a new window manager, compile new versions of xterm, and change a lot of other stuff too, but there are a few things I don't know!
[03:37] <kokut> wafflejock: this should have fixed it
[03:37] <fabzor3> oh okay Earl__
[03:38] <fabzor3> you have to partition the disk before you install ubuntu
[03:38] <Earl__> ExtHD - 4 partitions: One unused NTFS space, one 250 mb efi, one 4 gb linux swap, and one 50 gb eft?4
[03:38] <wafflejock> kokut: what are you trying to do just execute some program?
[03:38] <fabzor3> proably the easiest way
[03:38] <fabzor3> so since its external this is cool
[03:38] <fabzor3> so you can go to another linux machine
[03:38] <fabzor3> and run disk utility
[03:38] <Earl__> yes, i agree. if only I could get it to work! xD
[03:38] <vubuntor> I want to boot to liveUSB
[03:38] <vubuntor> fck this WBM
[03:39] <fabzor3> and create a new / partition and make sure its an uefi bootable partition
[03:39] <Earl__> vubuntor, i have no idea
[03:39] <wafflejock> kokut: your ls -al permissions should look like drwxrwxr-x at this point if you used 755
[03:39] <kokut> wafflejock: 775
[03:39] <wafflejock> kokut: if the second set of rwx isn't there the group permissions aren't right
[03:39] <vubuntor> them MS guys must have locked my bootloader
[03:39] <wafflejock> kokut: sorry you're correct
[03:39] <fabzor3> vubuntor, whats your issue?
[03:39] <Earl__> I don't have another linux machine readily available
[03:39] <wafflejock> kokut: that's 775
[03:39] <fabzor3> WHY NOT
[03:39] <fabzor3> you should have at least 5
[03:39] <Earl__> vubuntor, is secure boot off?
[03:40] <fabzor3> okay okay you can get a bootable live cd called gparted live cd
[03:40] <Earl__> This is my first ;)
[03:40] <kokut> wafflejock: okay i ran the command u gave me agian and it worked :)))
[03:40] <fabzor3> its similar to norton ghost or something
[03:40] <wafflejock> kokut: ah alright cool
[03:40] <fabzor3> you just boot off that and do whatever to your disks
[03:40] <vubuntor> fabzor3: Earl__ fasboot,secureboot is off,liveUSB liveCD are not showing on boot menu
[03:40] <zzo38> How do I display DEC technical characters in xterm?
[03:40] <wafflejock> kokut: yeah permissions rarely fun :|
[03:40] <kokut> wafflejock: oh no wait
[03:40] <fabzor3> then reboot and yur disks are all nicely partitioned
[03:41] <wafflejock> kokut: if you're still stuck, sudo apt-get install pastebinit, then, ls -al | pastebinit
[03:41] <fabzor3> Earl__, http://gparted.org/livecd.php
[03:41] <fabzor3> get that
[03:41] <wafflejock> kokut: so I can see what's going on
[03:41] <Earl__> fabzor3, i guess that would be a purchase? I was hoping to fix this with in house materials
[03:41] <kokut> wafflejock: looks like its working now :o
[03:41] <wafflejock> ok
[03:41] <fabzor3> fuck no, all free baby
[03:41] <fabzor3> and open source too
[03:41] <HackerII> PLAY NICE
[03:41] <fabzor3> oh im sorry for the language
[03:41] <kokut> wafflejock: thank you for helping me out :)
[03:41] <wafflejock> fabzor3: yeah try to keep the language PG, good to be excited but all ages
[03:41] <wafflejock> kokut: no prob
[03:42] <Earl__> I don't know if I could burn a cd
[03:42] <fabzor3> gparted is an awesome weapon in your aresnal
[03:42] <zzo38> Is anyone going to answer my questions please?
[03:42] <fabzor3> its great for recovering files off broken disks too
[03:42] <cfhowlett> !patience | zzo38
[03:42] <zzo38> I tried looking at all of the man pages and all of those web pages too
[03:43] <Earl__> I'm in windows. Could I not make partitions from here?
[03:43] <iamnotarobot> I just bricked my laptop by upgrading to 15.04 !
[03:43] <iamnotarobot> WTF
[03:43] <vubuntor> Earl__: if you don't want your windows to brick(can not boot),don't touch it
[03:43] <zzo38> And also other web pages, gopher, info documentations, and everything else too.
[03:43] <ruind> I am having a problem on mint 17 with my realtek wireless dropping out
[03:44] <cfhowlett> !language | iamnotarobot,
[03:44] <ruind> I looked online and it says I need to recompile from source... but those tips are 3-4 years old
[03:44] <vubuntor> do it with gparted and install ubuntu
[03:44] <cfhowlett> !mint | ruind mint is not ubuntu.  ubuntu is not mint.  sorry, not supported here.
[03:44] <Earl__> vubuntor, how would I use gparted without creating another usb
[03:45] <vubuntor> Earl__: ubuntu livecd has it
[03:45] <vubuntor> or liveusb
[03:45] <Earl__> so my live USB? cool
[03:45] <iamnotarobot> How do I fix this? My laptop was working fine, it charges without issue. But after installing 15.04 it freezes the computer after after 10 seconds which is about when it gets to the grub menu.
[03:45] <Earl__> then fabzor3 doing that... how to go about partitioning
[03:45] <fabzor3> Earl__, there is a gparted live usb
[03:45] <iamnotarobot> It wont power off with the power button
[03:46] <cfhowlett> iamnotarobot, upgraded from what version??
[03:46] <iamnotarobot> 14.10
[03:46] <iamnotarobot> again, was working perfectly
[03:47] <Earl__> aye yai yai. maybe i should live and let live >.<
[03:47] <iamnotarobot> I did a backup today (just as well) - but I really need to sort this out
[03:47] <cfhowlett> iamnotarobot, suggestion: install 14.04 for 5 years of Long Term Support and stop upgrading just because a new version comes out.  LTS only = upgrade every 2 years unless you really REALLY need the latest, greatest, shiniest packages.  YMMV
[03:47] <Walkerdine> I should really do a back up... in case ya know, I screw up my video card drivers
[03:48] <iamnotarobot> I heard something about samsung laptops and UEFI issues
[03:48] <zzo38> Also I modified libxul.so on my computer, usually it works but why sometimes my modification doesn't work?
[03:49] <vubuntor> now i just really need to boot to LiveUSBon my laptop because MS fked up my boot
[03:50] <Earl__> what are you doing vubuntor
[03:51] <fabzor3> ahh that old chestnut
[03:51] <vubuntor> Earl__: after upgrading to Windows 10 on EFI laptop, I can't boot into Ubuntu live session or even windows installation(nothing shows up on boot menu except Windows Boot Manager), despite I disabled fastboot and secureboot already
[03:52] <fabzor3> oh it probably "fixed your corrupted boot sector" lolololol
[03:52] <vubuntor> my bootloader must be locked
[03:52] <fabzor3> it does that (super frustrating)
[03:52] <Earl__> upgraded to windows 10 from 8?
[03:53] <vubuntor> if corrupted,how did i boot to windows 10 normally?
[03:53] <fabzor3> hang on vubuntor in your bios you mean?
[03:53] <vubuntor> fab F12 boot menu and even in bios
[03:53] <fabzor3> wow
[03:53] <neonixcoder> Hi good day team..
[03:53] <neonixcoder> How can I run "dpkg --configure -a" non interactively?
[03:53] <anao> hi@all did anyone find solution btrfs-scan hangs on boot with systemd?
[03:53] <fabzor3> so it like wrote to your bios somehow
[03:55] <vubuntor> only Windows Boot Manager on F12 boot menu, and WBM is the only available entry, the others are blank(USB HDD USB FDD USB DVD: (blank) )...
[03:55] <vubuntor> I believe those MS locked my bootloader
[03:55] <vubuntor> someone said the only way is find a way to install grub
[03:55] <vubuntor> i can't because i can't even boot to anything other than Windows
[03:56] <fabzor3> hey theres another way
[03:56] <fabzor3> syslinux...
[03:56] <vaishakh> hi
[03:56] <vaishakh> i want to torify my whole tcp connections in ubuntu... how can i make it possible ????
[03:56] <vubuntor> how when windows can not write to bootloader
[03:56] <fabzor3> grub gets its ass kicked by uefi, syslinux seems to be ok with it
[03:56] <Earl__> yeah. im not much a fan of uefi
[03:57] <vubuntor> oh, re-flashing bios can fix this?
[03:57] <fabzor3> course
[03:57] <fabzor3> you dont need to
[03:57] <fabzor3> just clear your security keys in bios
[03:57] <fabzor3> it has this stupid security thing
[03:57] <fabzor3> probably hidden in security features
[03:57] <vubuntor> so,i need to find a way to install syslinux?
[03:58] <fabzor3> wiping might do it but clearing keys is way easier
[03:58] <fabzor3> ahh this isn arch psssshhh
[03:58] <fabzor3> how on earth
[03:58] <fabzor3> one sec
[03:58] <vubuntor> my bios is security keys-free
[03:59] <fabzor3> http://superuser.com/questions/499617/how-can-i-add-linux-to-the-new-windows-8-boot-manager
[03:59] <fabzor3> check that then
[03:59] <fabzor3> thats specific to your problems
[03:59] <Earl__> fabzor3: seems I installed ubuntu on the extHD in BIOS mode...
[04:00] <fabzor3> EasyBCD sounds like it might be handy to you
[04:00] <fabzor3> all the same
[04:00] <fabzor3> use that easybootcd program
[04:00] <fabzor3> or something
[04:00] <vubuntor> maybe i should bcdedit with efi file from ubuntu iso
[04:00] <fabzor3> to make a new gpt partition type
[04:00] <fabzor3> try
[04:00] <vubuntor> either fix it or brick the whole laptop
[04:01] <ablest1980> how do i download install google chrome 64 bit in terminal??
[04:02] <vaishakh> i want to torify my whole tcp connections in ubuntu... how can i make it possible ????
[04:02] <fabzor3> sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[04:02] <ablest1980> ty
[04:02] <fabzor3> have fun
[04:03] <ablest1980> XD
[04:03] <ablest1980> i will thanks
[04:03] <fabzor3> also check the offical chrome browser off the google site
[04:04] <fabzor3> i found netflix worked better with the official one
[04:04] <fabzor3> its 64 bit too, but its published by google devs rather than the ubuntu devs
[04:05] <balsaq> would ubuntu run faster on a low spec machine (older hardware low ram)  if i made a 4gb sawp on a fast flash drive?
[04:05] <cfhowlett> balsaq, low spec?  lubuntu is optimized for low spec.
[04:05] <Earl__> ^
[04:06] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu | balsaq
[04:06] <balsaq> i like ubuntu
[04:06] <Earl__> ubuntu is pretty graphical heavy
[04:06] <Earl__> what is your laptop stat
[04:06] <fabzor3> balsaq, check out dsl (damnsmalllinux)
[04:06] <fabzor3> yeah dsl is nasty lol
[04:06] <fabzor3> but its really fast at doing nothing
[04:07] <balsaq> amd turion dual core   2gb ram     geforce go 6150
[04:07] <fabzor3> or check lxde
[04:07] <fabzor3> pff thats fine
[04:07] <Earl__> yeah, go with Lubuntu
[04:07] <fabzor3> that will run xfce4 wickedly
[04:07] <fabzor3> or lxde
[04:07] <balsaq> i like ubuntu unity
[04:07] <fabzor3> no you dont lol
[04:07] <Earl__> My experience running Ubuntu on an old laptop were futile
[04:07] <fabzor3> why doe people like it
[04:07] <balsaq> i lubb it
[04:07] <zzo38> I prefer i3 as the window manager and no desktop environment
[04:07] <Earl__> it's nice -- if you can actually run it
[04:07] <cfhowlett> yes, ubuntu *can* run on that, but darned slow.  if you don't mind slow, go for it.  if you actually want workable performance = lubuntu
[04:07] <fabzor3> yeah but xfce4 or lxde are way faster
[04:08] <fabzor3> and dont use mylittlepny blending effects
[04:08] <balsaq> would ubuntu run faster on a low spec machine (older hardware low ram)  if i made a 4gb sawp on a fast flash drive?
[04:08] <cfhowlett> balsaq, but see for yourself: sudo apt-get install xfce4 lxde                 then logout/choose an alternate DE, login
[04:08] <fabzor3> look yeah unity workflow is great but way waytoo many blending effects
[04:09] <carlosthejackal> hello hello
[04:09] <fabzor3> balsaq, a fast swap is only faster if you ever use the swap space
[04:09] <carlosthejackal> what a day
[04:09] <fabzor3> your better to just use less ram and never need the swap space
[04:09] <carlosthejackal> how is everyone doing tonight?
[04:09] <gloriya> ivde malayalikal aarelm undo  ????
[04:09] <vaishakh> ???????????????????????????????
[04:09] <balsaq> ok so ur saying it wont
[04:09] <carlosthejackal> hate hate windows 10
[04:09] <carlosthejackal> I never hated an operating system so much in my life
[04:10] <balsaq> 10  is  zen
[04:10] <cfhowlett> !ot | carlosthejackal,
[04:10] <fabzor3> no im saying it will, IF you loak 30 programs for no reason
[04:10] <vaishakh> carlosthejackal : i join u.......
[04:10] <fabzor3> but your better off to just not use that much ram in the first place
[04:10] <vaishakh> the worst OS i have evr seen
[04:11] <balsaq> if i cant make ubuntu run fast on my older laptop i guess i would choose debian next
[04:11] <fabzor3> nah man
[04:11] <balsaq> degian is always fast
[04:11] <fabzor3> the way to make it run fast is intall any distro you want
[04:11] <fabzor3> then customise the desktop environment
[04:11] <fabzor3> so install ubuntu normal distro
[04:11] <fabzor3> then install lxcde or xfce4
[04:12] <fabzor3> logout
[04:12] <fabzor3> and log in as xfce4
[04:12] <balsaq> those arwnt very much faster
[04:12] <fabzor3> if you still want more speed then install slim, a lightweight boot manager and customise your boot file
[04:12] <gloriya> hey guyzzz......
[04:12] <fabzor3> then customise your services
[04:12] <fabzor3> and only load what you need
[04:13] <balsaq> sounds like debian
[04:13] <fabzor3> yeah but you get all the ubuntu drivers and packages ;)
[04:13] <vaishakh> i want to torify my whole tcp connections in ubuntu... how can i make it possible ????
[04:13] <vaishakh> anybody here ????
[04:13] <fabzor3> or install arch linux :)
[04:13] <toter> Ubuntu MATE is a very light distro
[04:13] <vaishakh> pls help meeeee
[04:13] <balsaq> ok thanks
[04:13] <fabzor3> yeah mates great
[04:13] <fabzor3> arch is fast and light though
[04:13] <Weasels> Anyone here ever try Elementary OS?
[04:13] <fabzor3> gentoos blazingly fast but VERY hard to set up
[04:13] <cfhowlett> Weasels, not supported here.
[04:14] <Weasels> I know, just asking :)
[04:14] <carlosthejackal> torify?
[04:14] <fabzor3> nah it looks ok though
[04:14] <fabzor3> yeah whats a torify
[04:14] <carlosthejackal> vpn?
[04:14] <fabzor3> use tor?
[04:14] <Earl__> por vaishakh
[04:15] <fabzor3> oh man
[04:15] <fabzor3> USE A VPN
[04:15] <fabzor3> lol
[04:15] <fabzor3> go buy a good one
[04:15] <fabzor3> and hook it up to your modem
[04:15] <fabzor3> do it properly
[04:15] <carlosthejackal> I use a VPN
[04:15] <toter> If he uses tor, his internet speed will be 56k
[04:15] <webber_> oi
[04:15] <webber_> oi
[04:15] <webber_> oi
[04:15] <carlosthejackal> I connect through 4 different VPN companies
[04:16] <fabzor3> yeah sure, tor is slow
[04:16] <fabzor3> so buy a fast one
[04:16] <urist_> oi
[04:16] <webber_> oi
[04:16] <webber_> oi
[04:16] <toter> !pt | webber_
[04:16] <toter> !br | webber_
[04:17] <carlosthejackal> You want to know my current location? Steinsel, 03, LU
[04:17] <carlosthejackal> And I don't even know where that is...
[04:17] <carlosthejackal> LMAO
[04:17] <fabzor3> yeah cool
[04:17] <carlosthejackal> Luxemburg
[04:17] <fabzor3> man i have win8 on this laptop... I really want ubuntu on it
[04:18] <fabzor3> can I get away with it?
[04:18] <carlosthejackal> yes
[04:18] <fabzor3> hmm
[04:18] <carlosthejackal> dual boot
[04:18] <carlosthejackal> bro
[04:18] <fabzor3> I can use gimp not photoshop
[04:18] <fabzor3> nah no windows
[04:18] <fabzor3> I like not running antivirus
[04:18] <vubuntor> fabzor3: isthere any risk replacing WBM with syslinux?
[04:18] <fabzor3> yes
[04:18] <fabzor3> might break windows
[04:18] <carlosthejackal> I have multi boot, Ubuntu, Windows 7, and Windows 10
[04:18] <fabzor3> so thats why you install it on the disk not the bios
[04:18] <carlosthejackal> I get to choose on start up
[04:19] <fabzor3> unless syslinux can know that you also want to boot to windows and give you the option
[04:19] <carlosthejackal> I need to get to work in the morning
[04:19] <carlosthejackal> but they can suck it
[04:19] <fabzor3> I take no responsibility for breaking osses
[04:19] <vubuntor> fabzor3: if i install it to the disk, it doesn't solve the problem i can not boot to USB
[04:19] <fabzor3> sorry i mean windows
[04:19] <fabzor3> oh
[04:20] <fabzor3> so windows boot manager is installed to bios then? is that what your telling me>
[04:20] <fabzor3> thats crazy as hell
[04:20] <fabzor3> shiiiit
[04:20] <fabzor3> wow
[04:20] <vubuntor> fabzor3: not sure if it is install to bios
[04:20] <vubuntor> no way to check it
[04:20] <fabzor3> windows hacked your bios... fantastic
[04:20] <carlosthejackal> haha
[04:21] <fabzor3> see now
[04:21] <fabzor3> the problem here is clearly windows
[04:21] <carlosthejackal> windows boot manager can suck it
[04:21] <fabzor3> linux was fine
[04:21] <fabzor3> and then windows killed linux
[04:21] <fabzor3> and now your asking me a linux user in a linux channel if windows will be okay
[04:21] <fabzor3> why should I care about windows exactly?
[04:22] <guest0721> the information I was previously given re the flashplugin is no longer visible.  I had multiverse fully enabled and had done recent updates but there doesn't seem to be a flashplugin-nonfree or flashplugin-non-free anymore.  did I read something wrong?
[04:22] <guest0721> !flashplugin-installer
[04:22] <fabzor3> all the same, you should back up ALL your data before you do this kind of thing
[04:22] <guest0721> !info flashplugin-installer
[04:22] <fabzor3> vubuntor, have you got all of that windows 10 install backed up?
[04:23] <fabzor3> because that well stop windows 10 booting up
[04:23] <carlosthejackal> its all about Kali Linux
[04:23] <guest0721> fabzor3, could you help me decipher that information message from ubottu
[04:23] <fabzor3> oh
[04:23] <fabzor3> man
[04:24] <fabzor3> flash is not really supported any mopre
[04:24] <guest0721> well I am unable to work without it --- All my clients have flash websites that I need to see
[04:24] <guest0721> does that mean I can't use ubuntu?
[04:25] <fabzor3> or perhaps it changed its name to adobe flash
[04:25] <fabzor3> nah nah you can
[04:25] <fabzor3> I use ubuntu and I run flash fine
[04:25] <toter> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[04:25] <fabzor3> what version you running again>
[04:26] <toter> worked fine on my ubuntu gnome
[04:26] <Earl__> can i use gparted from my ubuntu live usb to create an EFI boot partition
[04:26] <fabzor3> I certainly hope so
[04:26] <fabzor3> give it a try
[04:26] <Earl__> is it straightfoward?
[04:26] <fabzor3> it comes with a partition editor, super easy to use, similar to fdisk for windows 7
[04:26] <guest0721> all the other distros have <IP_ADDRESS>1
[04:26] <toter> firefox recognized the flash plugin
[04:27] <toter> ok... uninstalling the flash plugin now
[04:27] <fabzor3> guest0721, can you use chromium instead?
[04:27] <guest0721> toter, that gives an ancient buggy and provenly dangerous version of flashplugin-installer
[04:27] <guest0721> that is the problem
[04:27] <guest0721> and please don't tell me to use chromium
[04:27] <guest0721> that is NOT what I need
[04:27] <fabzor3> all right dont worry
[04:27] <somsip> guest0721: what browser do you want to run it in?
[04:27] <toter> ancient buggy and provenly dangerous... pretty much every version of flash...
[04:27] <guest0721> firefox
[04:27] <fabzor3> sounds like you need to download firefox
[04:27] <toter> :)
[04:27] <fabzor3> from the mozilla site
[04:28] <fabzor3> and download flash from the adobe site
[04:28] <guest0721> I have firefox and it is up to date
[04:28] <fabzor3> and get them both working as third party standalone programs
[04:28] <fabzor3> indepenent of the package managers
[04:28] <fabzor3> 3rd party that right up
[04:28] <fabzor3> nah but
[04:28] <somsip> guest0721: then you'll get an out of date flash experience. My preference is to run chrome with pepper-flash when I need flash as it is up to date and sandboxed to provide a bit more safety. Just a thought
[04:28] <guest0721> with all other distros they have flashplugin-installer <IP_ADDRESS>1 at least
[04:29] <fabzor3> Im suggesting you download latest firefox and run it from your home dir
[04:29] <fabzor3> like as a standalone app
[04:29] <guest0721> ubuntu proper (as opposed to derivatives) is the only distro that seems to have this problem
[04:29] <fabzor3> and then install libflashplayer.so to your mozilla plugins directory
[04:29] <fabzor3> and manually enable it from firefox addons
[04:29] <guest0721> please leave any discussion of chrome and chromium out of this they are not solutions for me, nor is running firefox in wine.
[04:30] <fabzor3> so then why not install xubuntu
[04:30] <ablest1980> does google talk work on ubuntu without wine??
[04:30] <toter> guest0721: have you tried to install the available version to see if it works for your case?
[04:30] <fabzor3> nah install firefox, 64 bit natively for linux
[04:30] <guest0721> fabzor3, that is what I have been doing out of desperation, but it is not a good solution
[04:30] <fabzor3> why not?
[04:30] <guest0721> yes toter, I have
[04:30] <guest0721> it does not
[04:30] <cfhowlett> Earl__, yes and yes it's straightforward to create an /efiboot
[04:30] <guest0721> and it is known to have exploited bugs
[04:30] <ablest1980> im getting google chrome firefox doesnt work with netflix
[04:30] <earlPhone> Can you help? I'm booting into luve usb now.
[04:31] <guest0721> I would like to stay with ubuntu, but this is a game changer
[04:31] <somsip> earlPhone: have you said what your problem is?
[04:31] <ablest1980> chromium isnt chrome?
[04:32] <guest0721> fabzor3, xubuntu has the same outdated flashplugin-installer
[04:32] <Linux-Uzer> Hi. Anyone can help?
[04:32] <cfhowlett> !help | Linux-Uzer
[04:32] <toter> guest0721: What are you trying to run that specifically requires flash? I'm curious...
[04:32] <earlPhone> @ cfhowlett somsip i need to create an efi partition using live usb's gparted
[04:32] <guest0721> and fabzor3 I do have firefox 64 bit for linux installed
[04:32] <earlPhone> To boot ubuntu from external hd in uefi mode
[04:32] <cfhowlett> earlPhone, right.  easy.
[04:33] <somsip> earlPhone: no idea - I don't use uefi
[04:33] <guest0721> *all* my clients' stupid websites
[04:33] <ablest1980> fabzor3, gave me sudo apt-get install chromium-browser i wanted google chrome 64
[04:33] <toter> guest0721: LOL
[04:33] <Linux-Uzer> There's this emulator that's called ScummVM for running DOS games. How do I install it in my Kubuntu system? I've downloaded the file, then extracted the folder, but I don't know what else to do with it????
[04:33] <guest0721> toter.  I can't tell you how much I wish they would stop using flash, but alas, I have to eat i.e. earn an income
[04:34] <earlPhone> Ok cfhowlett, you know how?
[04:34] <cfhowlett> earlPhone, create unallocated space at the beginning of the partition > new partition > /efiboot type
[04:35] <earlPhone> Would that fix my issue for installing to ext hd?
[04:35] <cfhowlett> no idea.  sorry.
[04:35] <guest0721> toter, and in no case is flash necessary or even desirable for what they are doing on their websites.   Thank you.
[04:36] <toter> I'm using Ubuntu Gnome
[04:36] <guest0721> it gets me only a much older version
[04:36] <guest0721> I am using xfce
[04:36] <guest0721> why should that make a difference
[04:36] <toter> 15.04
[04:37] <guest0721> you have the right one
[04:37] <guest0721> so if 14.04 is LTS, why don't we rate to get the safe version, toter?
[04:37] <earlPhone> External USB HD is not showing in gparted..
[04:37] <guest0721> I only want to use LTS
[04:38] <toter> To prove that I'm not lying... http://imgur.com/mCcxdgI
[04:38] <cfhowlett> linuxuz3r, what version of ubuntu?
[04:38] <linuxuz3r> i have 15.0.4
[04:38] <guest0721> I didn't think you were lying.
[04:39] <guest0721> I just really want to stick with LTS only and yet need the safe flashplugin-installer you have toter
[04:39] <toter> Try this file... http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_20150716.1.orig.tar.gz
[04:39] <cfhowlett> linuxuz3r, and you downloaded the "source" package?
[04:39] <fabzor3> ablest1980, are you running a 64 bit os?
[04:39] <toter> apt-get downloaded this file here
[04:40] <fabzor3> it will download the native version
[04:40] <fabzor3> so if your i686 then itll get that arch if your x64 then it will get that arch
[04:41] <ablest1980> liar
[04:41] <ablest1980> jk XD
[04:41] <guest0721> I did download the tarball from adobe/google and move flashplayer.so and the /usr  stuff to the appropriate places, it is just that this has been needed so many times recently exactly when I didn't have time, that I wanted to have a better solution, toter
[04:41] <ablest1980> yes
[04:41] <ablest1980> chromium taking forever
[04:41] <fabzor3> well look thats the theory, if your experiencing something else then please tell me
[04:42] <ablest1980> 53% complete
[04:43] <guest0721> if they finally fix enough bugs so you don't have to do that constantly, I may be abler to stick with ubuntu, but why don't they update version from the repository the way every other distro does?  I think there must be a reason, if not then is there a way to make that suggestion/request?
[04:43] <Silenced_v2> Can someone suggest me a link for VMware player for ubuntu ? I don't find any
[04:43] <cfhowlett> !vmware | Silenced_v2
[04:43] <ablest1980> fabzor3, how do i get googletalk with terminal?
[04:44] <fabzor3> sudo apt-get install xchat
[04:44] <fabzor3> huhuhuh
[04:44] <fabzor3> its funny because I lied
[04:44] <fabzor3> nah i honestly have no idea
[04:45] <fabzor3> https://code.google.com/p/qgtalk/
[04:46] <fabzor3> check this - qgtalk a qt client that connects to google talk
[04:46] <ablest1980> you lied aboutudo apt-get install chromium-browser?
[04:46] <ablest1980> sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[04:46] <fabzor3> no i lied about xchat
[04:46] <ablest1980> ok
[04:46] <ablest1980> ty
[04:46] <fabzor3> because xchat is irc
[04:47] <fabzor3> and irc is the bomb
[04:47] <ablest1980> no i want googletalk
[04:47] <fabzor3> but hosestly that qt client for google talk looks good
[04:47] <fabzor3> qGTalk is a Google Talk client developed with Qt and libgloox. qGTalk functions like the Windows version of Google Talk (currently only text messaging is implemented) but runs on Linux.
[04:47] <fabzor3> looks good
[04:47] <ablest1980> ok
[04:47] <ablest1980> i have hexchat
[04:47] <ablest1980> XD
[04:48] <ablest1980> yes
[04:48] <ablest1980> this is irc
[04:49] <ablest1980> k
[04:49] <ablest1980> better then pidgin?
[04:51] <guest0721> ok toter, thanks for the new link (it might be the same thing).  I will do my usuall proces.  I guess I could write my own script for it to make it fast next time.  there is one difference from the tarballs I have been using, toter.  Yours includes a file called manifest.json.  Do you know what that is or what I am supposed to do with it?
[04:53] <toter> guest0721: There's no need to do anything with that file... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JSON
[04:53] <toter> A script is a good idea... It will speed things up next time
[04:54] <guest0721> ok, then it is exactly the same process.  I found the last couple of upgrades that diffing the old files with the ones to be replaced in /usr showed that most of them actually hadn't changed
[04:54] <fabzor3> pidgin was cool, I dont know I have never used google chat
[04:54] <fabzor3> I only used pidgin for msn
[04:54] <guest0721> oh you really should use pidgin instead
[04:55] <fabzor3> yeah I might chuck it on instead
[04:55] <bov> Anyone here running Ubuntu on a Macbook Pro 8,1 - 8,3 that was able to successfully get graphic switching working?
[04:55] <fabzor3> just no need since I only really use irc
[04:55] <fabzor3> and facebook on chrome
[04:55] <cfhowlett> !mac | bov
[04:55] <fabzor3> not me bov
[04:56] <guest0721> thank you toter
[05:12] <ablest1980> how do i  bookmark in chromium browser?
[05:14] <earlPhone> Creating efi partition at beginning of drive in gparted
[05:14] <earlPhone> Flag as boot, esp?
[05:14] <earlPhone> Or just esp
[05:15] <guest0721> thank you toter
[05:15] <earlPhone> Cfhowlett if you are still awake
[05:15] <guest0721> toter, is there someway of finding the appropriate link in the future for subsequent upgrades (ideally in a scriptable way)?
[05:16] <cfhowlett> earlPhone, it's early afternoon here in China, amigo.  yeah, make that bootablee
[05:16] <cfhowlett> *bootable*
[05:16] <guest0721> toter, i.e. is there some unchanging link that would point to the most recent one?
[05:16] <earlPhone> Ok. So flag it as boot AND esp?
[05:18] <cfhowlett> earlPhone, hmm.  see this first:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Creating_an_EFI_System_Partition
[05:18] <MonsieurBon> Hi all
[05:18] <toter> guest0721: not that I know of... i'm afraid the link will change every time because the filename has the release date on it
[05:18] <guest0721> how did you find it in the firstplace
[05:18] <guest0721> I don't mind scripting multiple levels of linkage
[05:18] <cfhowlett> earlPhone, I read that as /boot/efi   nothing more
[05:19] <grom358> how do you get xhprof UI for ubuntu? php5-xhprof package only has the profiler
[05:19] <earlPhone> Cfhowlett: that's what im going by
[05:19] <earlPhone> So just boot then
[05:20] <cfhowlett> earlPhone, so it seems
[05:20] <MonsieurBon> Every decent linux hardening guide tells you to set limits in /etc/security/limits.conf. However, no one tells you what values to use. Is there something like "sensible defaults"?
[05:20] <guest0721> the urls are clearly based on the date of the plugin, but is somewhere else refers to them, I can get the name for the latest that way, toter
[05:20] <guest0721> s/is/if
[05:21] <ubuntu297> I'd like some help getting my sound working. In 15.04 sudo apt-get install alsa-utils didn't seem to work, and aplay gave me a list of my hardware http://pastebin.com/MBvtnMxh Am I doing something wrong, or perhaps my hardware might be incompatable?
[05:26] <omid> hi
[05:27] <omid> salam\
[05:27] <freezer> can someone recommend a hdmi switch?
[05:27] <guest0721> does alsamixer bring anything up ubuntu297 ?
[05:27] <omid> kasi farsi zaban hast inja?
[05:27] <cfhowlett> !farsi | omid
[05:27] <ubuntu297> yeah
[05:27] <guest0721> nemi famam
[05:28] <ubuntu297> several sound bars, most are half full to full, besides headphones and frontmic bars, which are empty.
[05:28] <locksmit1> hhi
[05:28] <ubuntu297> but master, pcm, front, surround, and center are all showing bars
[05:29] <guest0721> hmmm, and you don't have sound?
[05:29] <guest0721> not muted?
[05:29] <ubuntu297> nope :C
[05:29] <Dynetrekk> hi, found a bug in gcc-4.8.5/14.04LTS. unfortunately it's revealed by a 2k files project. is there even interest in the bug report?
[05:29] <Dynetrekk> and how, where?
[05:29] <cfhowlett> !bug | Dynetrekk
[05:29] <guest0721> I am not an expert and am here to ask questions, but you seemed to be waiting a long time so I piped up ubuntu297
[05:30] <ubuntu297> not too long
[05:30] <guest0721> what happens if you use amixer to sett everything that seems relevant to 75-100% and unmute?
[05:30] <Dynetrekk> cfhowlett: problem is, I can't provide the source, nor is the example minimal. is it even worth trying to submit the bug?
[05:31] <cfhowlett> Dynetrekk, without such details, a reported bug is unlikely to get attention
[05:31] <Dynetrekk> cfhowlett: I write code myself, so I completely sympathise with that...
[05:32] <ubuntu297> Everything IS unmuted. I wonder though, perhaps the cords need positioned differently than they do in windows.
[05:32] <ubuntu297> For some reason, when I get sound in windows, I don't have the cords all the way plugged in
[05:32] <ubuntu297> because when I do, I don't get sound.
[05:32] <guest0721> in my case this is "amizer -c1 -sset Master 100% unmute; amixer -c1 sset Speaker 100% unmute; amixer -c1 sset PCM 100% unmute   but it might be different for you the -c1 refers to the card
[05:33] <guest0721> s/amizer/amixer  sorry for the typo
[05:34] <guest0721> I probably should step aside ubuntu297 and let someone who knows more help you.
[05:35] <ubuntu297> Alright, thanks all the same. At least I know I was noticed.
[05:35] <guest0721> yes, but not by the right people
[05:36] <ubuntu297> I've left several guilds before over being ignored, so any kind of my existance being noticed is good.
[05:36] <UbuntuMario> Help, I'm trying to install Wine on Ubuntu 15.04 but i get errors.. :(
[05:36] <kanliot> not getting the framebuffer when I press ctrl+alt+f1.  just get a black screen.  I have a radeon card.  possible X.org doesn't know how to enter framebuffer console on 15.04???
[05:36] <UbuntuMario> It says " following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:36] <UbuntuMario>  wine : Depends: wine1.6 but it is not going to be installed
[05:36] <UbuntuMario> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[05:36] <UbuntuMario> any idea?
[05:37] <baizon> UbuntuMario: have you tried sudo apt-get install -f
[05:37] <UbuntuMario> Yes
[05:38] <baizon> UbuntuMario: no errors?
[05:38] <UbuntuMario> http://pastebin.com/CgHzHFcy
[05:39] <baizon> UbuntuMario: sudo apt-get install wine1.6 ?
[05:39] <baizon> same error?
[05:40] <UbuntuMario> E: Invalid operation intsall
[05:40] <UbuntuMario> i typed sudo apt-get install wine1.6
[05:40] <baizon> UbuntuMario: "intsall", isnt "install".
[05:41] <UbuntuMario> did type install
[05:41] <fabzor3_> sudo apt-get -f install
[05:41] <UbuntuMario> oh wait.
[05:41] <fabzor3_> to fix broken packages
[05:42] <UbuntuMario> something different this time!
[05:42] <UbuntuMario> http://pastebin.com/9ggChEBx   it says i have held broken packages?
[05:43] <baizon> UbuntuMario: try sudo apt-get update first
[05:44] <UbuntuMario> I'll install all the updates and such and then try.. IF i don't get it install i'll come by tomorrow.
[05:44] <squinty> dist-upgrade
[05:44] <squinty> update only updates the sources listings
[05:45] <baizon> squinty: hes gone
[05:45] <guest0721> oh dear, it seems toter is gone, can anyone else help me?
[05:45] <squinty> ok thanks :)
[05:48] <truck> Hey
[05:48] <fabzor3_> sudo apt-get update
[05:49] <fabzor3_> sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:49] <fabzor3_> sudo apt-get -f install
[05:49] <fabzor3_> then try
[05:49] <guest0721> it seems that nobody will provide up-to-date repositories for the LTS versions of ubuntu for flashplugin but they do provide it for 15.04 vivid.   Would it hurt to add the vivid repository for it?  i.e. something like "echo "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ vivid partner" /etc/apt/sources.list.d/canonical_partner.list"
[05:49] <fabzor3_> actually you will probably need to fix your proken packages first
[05:49] <truck> Anyone know any way to dial an Android from Ubuntu ?
[05:49] <truck> Other than using AirDroid?
[05:50] <ubuntu297> what are the Canonical packs exactly? I haven't added them yet, simply because I don't know if I need them.
[05:50] <truck> Tried using AirDroid, but gotta switch to phone to compleate the call.
[05:50] <guest0721> I install ubuntu on  my android devices
[05:50] <fabzor3_> guest0721, how about adding a custom sources line
[05:50] <fabzor3_> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:50] <guest0721> what exactly do you mean fabzor3_ ?
[05:51] <ablest1980> i install chromium to watch video on netflix now i get This webpage has a redirect loop
[05:51] <fabzor3_> adding another repo with up to date flash
[05:51] <ablest1980> please help
[05:51] <fabzor3_> ablest1980, my man!
[05:51] <fabzor3_> I got that exact thing!!!!
[05:51] <guest0721> I thought just adding things to sources.list in newer versions messed things up, is that not so fabzor3_ ?
[05:51] <ablest1980> hey
[05:51] <fabzor3_> okay okay... install the offical chrome from the google site for ubuntu
[05:51] <ablest1980> maybe it netflix?
[05:52] <fabzor3_> and try again using that chrome (the one with the colorful icon)
[05:52] <ablest1980> ok
[05:52] <fabzor3_> and shebam itll work
[05:52] <fabzor3_> nah its not
[05:52] <fabzor3_> because my windows machines work fine
[05:52] <fabzor3_> its something up with that particular chrome
[05:52] <guest0721> my question was that since there is no repository for 14.04 with a safe version, would using the vivid repository do any harm?
[05:52] <fabzor3_> ahhh
[05:52] <guest0721> and is it ok to just add stuff to sources.list nowadays?
[05:52] <fabzor3_> what you want to do is backport
[05:53] <fabzor3_> yeah thats what you call backporting
[05:53] <guest0721> I am using 14.04, they only keep the repositories for 15.04 up to date
[05:53] <fabzor3_> and yes it could totally do harm
[05:53] <guest0721> that is what I was afraid of
[05:53] <ablest1980> http://www.google.com/chrome/
[05:53] <fabzor3_> ablest1980, yeah that one
[05:54] <SuperLag> banging my head on the nvidia wall :/
[05:54] <ablest1980> :)
[05:54] <fabzor3_> im just about to listen to someone from nvidia speak - mike wang
[05:54] <SuperLag> cannot get anything more than 800x600 even with nvidia drivers installed
[05:54] <galeido> guest0721: Is there some particular reason not to update 15.04?
[05:54] <ablest1980> save file or open?
[05:55] <guest0721> fabzor3_, toter helped me find the latest tarball for vivid which contained the same stuff as the adobe/google tarball, but I want an automated way of checking the most recent and don't know how to find the right tarball in the future predictably.
[05:55] <fabzor3_> SuperLag, you might have to add the modes
[05:55] <fabzor3_> oh wait
[05:55] <fabzor3_> try nvidia-xconfig
[05:55] <fabzor3_> and reboot
[05:55] <fabzor3_> perhaps your xorg file is busted
[05:56] <guest0721> yes galeido, there are a lot of reasons on the relevant machine I want to stic to LTS only
[05:56] <galeido> guest0721: OK =)
[05:56] <fabzor3_> SuperLag, can you load nvidia-settings ?
[05:57] <fabzor3_> I dont really belive you that your drivers are running, prove it to me
[05:57] <guest0721> but alas my clients have incredibly stupid flash-based websites that do nothing requiring flash, but for which you need flash because of their stupidity
[05:57] <fabzor3_> hey gues
[05:57] <ablest1980> it says Thank you for downloading Chrome where is it?
[05:57] <fabzor3_> how about you use virtualbox to build a windows 8.1 virtual pc
[05:57] <fabzor3_> and browse your sites on virtual pcs
[05:57] <ablest1980> nvm
[05:57] <ablest1980> hey
[05:58] <fabzor3_> its more real world
[05:58] <fabzor3_> and you can throw stupid shit like microsoft glitches into the mix
[05:58] <SuperLag> fabzor3_: was that comment to me?
[05:58] <fabzor3_> apologies Superlag yeah I want you to prove you are running the nvidia drivers
[05:58] <fabzor3_> SuperLag, please run nvidia settings
[05:58] <fabzor3_> and tell me what it says
[05:59] <fabzor3_> can it verify your driver version\?
[05:59] <guest0721> I certainly hope fabzor3_ isn't asking me to use windows or wine.   I haven't kept  windows since 1998 and haen't used windows for real since 1994 when I moved to linux and I am very happy for that.
[05:59] <fabzor3_> sure
[05:59] <donald> hello everyone im back and i passed with fling colors my certification of linux OS
[05:59] <fabzor3_> use virtualbox
[05:59] <fabzor3_> and install windows on virtualbox
[05:59] <SuperLag> fabzor3_: 346.82
[05:59] <SuperLag> fabzor3_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12011852/
[05:59] <fabzor3_> so no dont "run it" but keep it as a testing machine
[06:00] <fabzor3_> in a safe little sandbox called virtualmachine
[06:00] <guest0721> please tell me fabzor3_ that none of that is addressed to me.
[06:00] <ubuntu297> I'd like some help getting my sound working. In 15.04 sudo apt-get install alsa-utils didn't seem to work, and aplay gave me a list of my hardware http://pastebin.com/MBvtnMxh Am I doing something wrong, or perhaps my hardware might be incompatable? I asked a bit ago, though I'm not sure how long I should wait before asking again.
[06:01] <fabzor3_> guest0721, why cant you just run ubuntu 15?
[06:01] <guest0721> oh fabzor3_ ubuntu297 has been patiently waiting for help for a long time, help ubuntu297 first then get back to me if you can.
[06:01] <fabzor3_> sure
[06:01] <guest0721> fabzor because this particular machine I want LTS only
[06:01] <guest0721> fabzor3_,
[06:02] <fabzor3_> ubuntu297, hmmm you tried with pulse?
[06:02] <fabzor3_> ubuntu297, how many sound cards have you got?
[06:02] <ubuntu297> I only have one card I think. The default one on my mobo.
[06:03] <ubuntu297> and I think I tried pulse, it seems to be the default in 15.04 I think.
[06:03] <fabzor3_> ubuntu297, can you got to synaptic and install pulse audio?
[06:03] <donald> well linux and some ibm compatables are fixed with certain files in your settings area that may interfere with linux, if you are running all linux and just play windows please look in the linux pro magazing for last month therte is a new program that may help
[06:03] <donald> you can view it free online
[06:04] <fabzor3_> ubuntu297, okay go to ubuntu control paneland sound
[06:04] <fabzor3_> ubuntu297, and hardware and output.. see if you can find your hardware there and try and select it
[06:04] <ubuntu297> I think it's open now. It's only listed as volume control though.
[06:05] <fabzor3_> ubuntu297, plug your speakers into the little green hole ;)
[06:05] <fabzor3_> ubuntu297, perhaps you have the wrong output
[06:05] <ubuntu297> I was using the blue one, since that's what my windows was defaulted to.
[06:05] <fabzor3_> ubuntu297, windows is lies
[06:06] <donald> windows ios junk pile of mistakes of programers
[06:06] <fabzor3_> ubuntu297, in windows you can reassign the ports, using the realtek drivers or whatever your drivers is
[06:06] <fabzor3_> lol thanks donald
[06:06] <ubuntu297> I think I ended up doing that for windows actually.
[06:06] <donald> for what...lol
[06:07] <ubuntu297> anyway, I did move to the green port, which seems to have not changed the status
[06:07] <donald> i wish i had comcast...im stuck using cox...yuck
[06:08] <fabzor3_> ubuntu297, try turning the volume all the way up and down and scrub the volume to the left and right
[06:08] <fabzor3_> sometimes it only outputs one speaker
[06:08] <ubuntu297> Hold up... I was playing in it and apparently moving the port did help, once I also moved my configuration to a different profile under the 5th tab
[06:09] <fabzor3_> yaay internet party :)
[06:09] <ubuntu297> Honestly, I felt really computer savvy.... until I moved to linux
[06:09] <fabzor3_> its a great experience
[06:09] <ubuntu297> then I felt like I was trying to work with a spaceship or something
[06:09] <fabzor3_> now you are more computer savvy, and you have balls
[06:10] <fabzor3_> wait i hope your not a chick
[06:10] <fabzor3_> cos its not a side effect of using linux if you are
[06:10] <ubuntu297> I wouldn't call myself savvy again yet
[06:10] <fabzor3_> its just practice really
[06:10] <fabzor3_> after a while you may even prefer it
[06:10] <donald> Well since i have my certification i will be joining linux organization and will be putting my own version of linux which will be called Locker Linux...be looking for it
[06:10] <ubuntu297> aaaand.... I have no idea how I just broke it again.
[06:11] <fabzor3_> welcome aboard
[06:11] <donald> ty
[06:11] <fabzor3_> LOL
[06:11] <ubuntu297> I was checking the other profiles and it stopped working, so I changed it back to the  one it did work on
[06:11] <fabzor3_> what happenned?
[06:11] <ubuntu297> but the music didn't start back up T_T
[06:11] <fabzor3_> could be a gripe with pulse
[06:11] <fabzor3_> might need to restart the prigram
[06:12] <ubuntu297> I'll do that
[06:13] <ubuntu297> well, moving it back and my browser has sound now. So that IS progress.
[06:13] <donald> got to go...good luck with fixing the problem...but you do have a good man to help you he's good(fabzor)...and god bless you all and your families...night!
[06:13] <ubuntu297> turns out windows is all kinds of automated. So it's easy to "know" what you're doing.
[06:13] <fabzor3_> very true
[06:13] <fabzor3_> things are a lot more manual in linux
[06:13] <ubuntu297> But linux is way more do it yourself than windows
[06:13] <fabzor3_> especially installation and compiling
[06:14] <ubuntu297> I still haven't figured out how to install my other programs yet actually.
[06:14] <ubuntu297> I'm really just poking things and seeing what happens.
[06:14] <fabzor3_> like what?
[06:14] <ubuntu297> well, my skype from windows won't work, or even show up
[06:15] <fabzor3_> mmmm
[06:15] <ubuntu297> also I'm stuck with firefox, and I want to use waterfox, which is a 64bit firefox
[06:15] <fabzor3_> http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/
[06:15] <ubuntu297> that makes sense.
[06:15] <fabzor3_> why do you want a 64 bit web browser?
[06:15] <fabzor3_> do you not like your plugins working?
[06:16] <ubuntu297> Actually, it's because when I have open my tabs, I crash firedfox... a lot
[06:16] <fabzor3_> is it because you download so many cat pictures you need to harness the power or 64 bit processing?
[06:16] <fabzor3_> hmm
[06:16] <ubuntu297> tumblr tends to crash firefox when loading about 200 pages of scrolling
[06:16] <fabzor3_> have you tried crashing it on linux 32 bit?
[06:17] <fabzor3_> okay okay... 32 bit chromium
[06:17] <fabzor3_> each 32 bit tab is a new thread and zone of memory
[06:17] <ubuntu297> I'm on 64 bit linux, but no I haven't actually tried to crash it with linux yet
[06:17] <fabzor3_> so theoretically it would actually be more effeicent for multi threading
[06:18] <fabzor3_> it could have just been windows being a dick
[06:18] <ubuntu297> Honestly, I really love windows 10 and I don't want to move to linux.
[06:18] <fabzor3_> I meann how it handles the threads
[06:18] <fabzor3_> well
[06:18] <fabzor3_> try and break linux
[06:18] <fabzor3_> compare
[06:18] <ubuntu297> But Microsoft is like "Yo, you want an OS, that's cool.  :C
[06:22] <fabzor3_> sure, its called windows xp 32 bit with direct x 9
[06:22] <fabzor3_> heaps of good games for that
[06:22] <fabzor3_> but old
[06:23] <fabzor3_> real old drivers though
[06:23] <ubuntu297> Oh right, for the skype thing. they only show a skype for older versions of ubuntu. will those still work?
[06:23] <fabzor3_> actually yeah stuff windows xp, opengl 4 is pretty wild
[06:23] <fabzor3_> oh sorry, lets see
[06:24] <fabzor3_> choose dynamic
[06:24] <ubuntu297> alright.
[06:25] <ubuntu297> Also, hope I can pick where these install to.
[06:25] <fabzor3_> first thing is check the readme
[06:25] <wafflejock> ubuntu297: you can use dpkg -L somedeb.deb, to see what files a package installs
[06:25] <fabzor3_> if you are lucky enough to get a deb
[06:25] <fabzor3_> you might have to compile it :)
[06:26] <julian-delphiki> compile skype? I highly doubt it.
[06:26] <wafflejock> yeah lots of places supporting linux have debs and rpms though
[06:26] <julian-delphiki> ubuntu297, everything installs to standard locations on ubuntu. then you just find it in your menu or type the command.
[06:26] <ubuntu297> because of the way I'm using an SSD with an HDD, I don't want to flood them all onto my SSD
[06:26] <fabzor3_> oh actually this comes with binaries
[06:27] <fabzor3_> if it doesnt run then you will probably need to get some dependencies through synaptic or apt-get
[06:27] <julian-delphiki> !skype
[06:27] <woahguy> !penis
[06:27] <woahguy> (01:27:45 AM) ubottu: Sorry, I don't know anything about penis
[06:28] <julian-delphiki> !skype | ubuntu297
[06:28] <julian-delphiki> don't worry about download debs and such like fabzor3_ said.
[06:29] <fabzor3_> yeah you can download the binaries
[06:29] <fabzor3_> and just extract to home/apps or wherever
[06:29] <fabzor3_> and just run the thing
[06:29] <iepupp> How to enable PUT DELETE method on apache2 ? Please Help!
[06:29] <julian-delphiki> fabzor3_, no, please, just recommend that people use standard packages rather than ripping them apart.
[06:29] <wafflejock> fabzor3_: that's why you would have problems with missing dependencies :)
[06:30] <wafflejock> best to install from the repos when available and working
[06:30] <woahguy> iepupp: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2934554/how-to-enable-and-use-http-put-and-delete-with-apache2-and-php
[06:30] <fabzor3_> its not available for newer versions of ubuntu
[06:30] <wafflejock> if you must use a .deb or know how to build your source and get dependencies then that's a fallback
[06:30] <fabzor3_> they stop at like 12... way behind the 8ball
[06:30] <wafflejock> even so should just dpkg -i thedeb.deb
[06:30] <guest0721> fabzor3_, I am waiting for you to finish helping others at the moment, but if you can't help me, there is  no point in waiting around.  All I really need to know is how to find the appropriate tarballs for flash-plugin from canonical(-partners) in the future when new releases come out.
[06:31] <ubuntu297> I think I should make a new folder to keep my linux files seperate from my windows ones
[06:31] <julian-delphiki> ubuntu297, uh, are you dual booted right now?
[06:31] <fabzor3_> oh I cant tell you that
[06:31] <ubuntu297> Yeah
[06:31] <fabzor3_> I really just want you to get it from the adobe site
[06:31] <guest0721> was that addressed to me fabzor?
[06:31] <wafflejock> guest0721: if you use Chrome it maintains it's own updated version of Flash Player
[06:32] <guest0721> oh ok, but there is no way I can see to automate that in a script
[06:32] <ubuntu297> I think I can do that though. it looks like I just go to my slavedrive and name a new folder to shove things in
[06:32] <julian-delphiki> guest0721, you should just use apt to install it
[06:32] <julian-delphiki> http://askubuntu.com/questions/531672/how-to-install-flash-payer-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts
[06:32] <fabzor3_> okay guest0721 i just got told off for recommending that someone compile thier own programs
[06:32] <fabzor3_> woah
[06:32] <guest0721> there is no way any of you will ever get me to use chrome so please stop trying
[06:32] <fabzor3_> lets look at that, thanks julian-delphiki
[06:32] <iepupp> I also want to use PATCH method, how to enable it in apache2?
[06:32] <guest0721> julian-delphiki, the repositories for the LTS versions have anciend very dangerous versions
[06:33] <wafflejock> guest0721: I don't care what you  use just letting you know regarding flash didn't see any previous conversation
[06:33] <fabzor3_> okay guest0721 http://askubuntu.com/questions/531672/how-to-install-flash-payer-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts please read this
[06:33] <julian-delphiki> guest0721 do you understand how versioning works in an LTS version?
[06:33] <julian-delphiki> the version number usually doesn't increase.
[06:33] <guest0721> sorry wafflejock  it has become a kneejerk reaction
[06:33] <julian-delphiki> but the patches get packported in
[06:33] <wafflejock> guest0721: no worries I understand :)
[06:34] <fabzor3_> old version of ubunt = old versions of flash
[06:34] <iepupp> I donot want any involment of PHP, I want to curl PUT DELETE PATCH request's
[06:34] <julian-delphiki> iepupp, its usually a LIMIT clause that is limiting it.
[06:34] <fabzor3_> so why on earth do you want LTS as well as want new versions of software? thats completely defeats the point of keeping everything old
[06:35] <julian-delphiki> iepupp, yeah, apache wont limit those unless a config file is limiting then
[06:35] <fabzor3_> guest0721, the point of using LTS is yes its old and insecure, but its predictable
[06:35] <julian-delphiki> well, we use it for server deployments. gives us guaranteed support.
[06:36] <iepupp> yes I researched it, can you help me which file I need to config, there is no such concrete info available.
[06:36] <fabzor3_> guest0721, I was offering a way to quicky hack in a new version but that wasnt good enough for you because you want an automated way of updating flash?  well my friend that automated way of updating flash and getting security updates is called installing ubuntu 15
[06:36] <julian-delphiki> iepupp, it all depends on your configuration. probably not a basic ubutntu troubleshooting question.
[06:36] <guest0721> and when support ends for the ones that expire faster it always seems to hit a time when I don't have enough time to even get a good night's sleep and I will need something that is no longer supported for my current job.
[06:37] <fabzor3_> guest0721, if lack of sleep is a concern for you then i suggest you go and buy a mac
[06:37] <fabzor3_> linux is about hard work and reading and learning and no sleeping
[06:37] <fabzor3_> EVER :)
[06:37] <joshsyn> just a question
[06:37] <guest0721> oh, fabzor3_ I didn't mean I needed it to be automated, just that there be a way to find it reliably.  I would write my own scripts if for a tarball.
[06:37] <fabzor3_> hi joshsyn
[06:37] <tri> got no sound please help
[06:37] <joshsyn> if i install viber.deb using dpkg, will it upgrade itself later on with apt-get upgrade?
[06:38] <fabzor3_> guest0721, yeah sure you can just check the adobe website
[06:38] <julian-delphiki> guest0721, the most recent flash binares for 14.04 we're built mid july, so they should be okay.
[06:38] <fabzor3_> guest0721, if a new flash comes out they will annoyunce it
[06:38] <joshsyn> or do i have to download the .deb for newer releases again?
[06:38] <fabzor3_> guest0721, not even, just get lobflashplayer.so
[06:38] <guest0721> fabzor3_, I have used linux exclusively for nearly a quarter of a century and nothing will make me turn back now
[06:38] <fabzor3_> its literally one file your stressing about
[06:38] <julian-delphiki> joshsyn, no. you'd have to use apt-get to install.
[06:39] <fabzor3_> guest0721, thats good, im glad ;)
[06:39] <tri> can somebody help me with the sound issue ?
[06:39] <guest0721> well there are a couple of things in /usr that usually also need to be updated
[06:39] <jake_> release the kraken!
[06:39] <joshsyn> julian-delphiki, apt-get does not have viber
[06:39] <JayBau> joshsyn: if you downloaded a deb, then it won't be updated automatically, but if a repo/ppa is available then use that and it will be update when you do apt-get update/install :)
[06:39] <fabzor3_> guest0721, they could be icons or symbolic links
[06:40] <julian-delphiki> joshsyn, then yes, you'll ahve to get a newer deb to install
[06:40] <guest0721> of all the stuff in /usr that needed updating the last time only one file actually mattered, the others were the kind of thing you mentioned
[06:40] <joshsyn> JayBau, that makes sense, why would people prefer dpkg over a PPA?
[06:41] <guest0721> would you happen to have the adobe site url for downloading the tarball directly.
[06:41] <julian-delphiki> guest0721, don't listen to fabzor3_, are you using flashplugin-installer package?
[06:41] <julian-delphiki> you should use that
[06:42] <guest0721> not an ubuntu question  so I don't mind if you just say no
[06:42] <julian-delphiki> which will install it from adobe's site, automatically
[06:42] <guest0721> julian-delphiki, for the last 6 months or so that hasn't been an option so I have had to download the tarball on unbuntu 10.04 (and that only, all the other distros have the newer ones in their repositories)
[06:43] <Guest94321> hi, somebody can help me i have this problem: Could not connect to bumblebee daemon - is it running? I am using ubuntu 15.04 with gnome I didn't have this problem with the version 14.04
[06:44] <guest0721> julian-delphiki, for nearly 6 months now the repositories for ubuntu 10.04 have had a version of flashplayer-installer that not only has exploitable bugs but that has bugs that have been seriously exploited in the wild.
[06:44] <julian-delphiki> guest0721, that doesn't surprise me, 10.04 is out of support now.
[06:44] <guest0721> so even if I am able to get the tarball and install that way, I am concerned about all the folks who use the repositories
[06:44] <guest0721> it is LTS!!!!
[06:45] <guest0721> that  the only reason I am using it
[06:45] <wileee> !10.04
[06:45] <julian-delphiki> thanks wileee
[06:45] <joshsyn> is webupd8's ppa secure?
[06:45] <julian-delphiki> guest0721, it's a very old LTS, 12.04 or 14.04 are better.
[06:45] <guest0721> huh? not 2019?
[06:46] <wileee> !ppa | joshsyn, read carefully
[06:46] <julian-delphiki> guest0721, no, 10.04 was desktop support for 3 years, server for 5.
[06:46] <guest0721> oh did I have a typo?   all the other times I correctly typed 14.04
[06:46] <guest0721> I guess I must have mistyped it once
[06:47] <julian-delphiki> guest0721, yeah, 14.04 is supported through 2019 afaik.
[06:47] <guest0721> anyway it is 14.04 that has the dangerous versions
[06:47] <wileee> guest0721, This is off topic.
[06:48] <fabzor3_> guest0721, please tell us about this dangerous exploit
[06:48] <guest0721> the fact that the repositories contain buggy software that has been rampantly exploited in the wild is off-topic?
[06:48] <julian-delphiki> guest0721 flash player 11.2 is latest for linux.
[06:48] <Guest94321>  hi, somebody can help me i have this problem: Could not connect to bumblebee daemon - is it running? I am using ubuntu 15.04 with gnome I didn't have this problem with the version 14.04
[06:48] <guest0721> only .491 (and later if there are any) are free from the exploit
[06:49] <fabzor3_> guest0721, can you provide me with a description or link to this exploit?
[06:49] <julian-delphiki> fabzor3_, off topic, talk of exploits isnt usually allowed here
[06:49] <julian-delphiki> guest0721, https://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/pdc/<IP_ADDRESS>1/install_flash_player_11_linux.i386.tar.gz is the only tar i could find.
[06:49] <fabzor3_> im just thinking, does it really matter, is it really a concern?
[06:49] <guest0721> it was on both the firefox and adobe flash related pages for a long time
[06:49] <wileee> guest0721, This is not chat on adobe, it is support, you're not helping here.
[06:50] <guest0721> yes, julian-delphiki that is the right one, I just want to be able to find the next one when the next exploit is discovered
[06:50] <julian-delphiki> guest0721, https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/ not hard.
[06:50] <guest0721> the ubuntu issue is that the repostories contain a dangerous version
[06:51] <wileee> !ot | guest0721
[06:51] <guest0721> well not everyone using ubuntu 14.04 would know to even try to look elsewhere
[06:51] <guest0721> even removing it altogether from the repositories would be better than having an unsafe one.
[06:52] <guest0721> then people would go looking
[06:52] <wileee> guest0721, You're rhetoric is not appropriate being repeated continuously, we heard you now your trolling.
[06:52] <guest0721> and if it is up to date for 15.04 why not for 14.-04?
[06:52] <julian-delphiki> because 14.04 is LTS.
[06:52] <guest0721> bizarre reaction
[06:52] <fabzor3_> you're the only person who seems to care guest0721
[06:52] <guest0721> if it is LTS why isn't it supported?
[06:53] <guest0721> others don't know why they are being exploited yet.
[06:53] <wileee> julian-delphiki, would you stop answering them please
[06:53] <julian-delphiki> sure wileee
[06:53] <wileee> cool, thanks
[06:59] <funkenstrahlen> hey, I try to run a command with sudo and pipe the output into a file only accessible by root. Why do I get permission denied? https://gist.github.com/funkenstrahlen/138511937b9ab49aa046#file-gistfile1-txt-L31-L36
[07:00] <EriC^^> funkenstrahlen: sudo doesn't go across the redirection, you need to use .... | sudo tee /file
[07:02] <funkenstrahlen> EriC^^: Does it also work like "sudo ..... | tee file" ?
[07:02] <ubuntu297> So, apparently Linux allows users to use the whole system without a mouse.
[07:02] <EriC^^> funkenstrahlen: no, cause tee would be running without sudo
[07:02] <ubuntu297> That's awesome
[07:02] <funkenstrahlen> EriC^^: because I run the command via ansible and it can only handle automatic sudo at the beginning of a line
[07:04] <EriC^^> funkenstrahlen: you can do sudo bash -c "<command here>"
[07:05] <funkenstrahlen> EriC^^: like "sudo bash -c "iptables-save > /etc/iptables/rules.v4""
[07:05] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:05] <funkenstrahlen> EriC^^: that's a great idea!
[07:05] <funkenstrahlen> thank you, I will try
[07:05] <EriC^^> no problem
[07:07] <cred> so, I'm a complete noob with tmux, can anyone explain why there's a bunch of dots blocking half of my window when I resize it? I'm assuming it's some kind of setting of how large the terminal is allowed to be
[07:07] <kaidelong> hi, I'm using ubuntu 15.04, I want to set up a network share for my local network. There is an applet called "Personal File Sharing Preferences" that tells me "this feature cannot be enabled because the required packages are not installed on your system"
[07:07] <kaidelong> does anyone know what these packages are supposed to be? It does not say
[07:08] <guest0721> I guess translating away from all the nastiness, what you are saying is that multiverse is considered off-topic.  Is that right?
[07:08] <kaidelong> (neither does the help)
[07:08] <cred> kaidelong: it could be samba but it depends on what kind of share youre setting up (win<->ubuntu etc)
[07:09] <kaidelong> linux<->linux, and maybe an xbox later if I can figure out media tomb, but that's a separate goal still
[07:09] <cred> kaidelong: do you want to mount the folder on the 2nd linux system?
[07:09] <kaidelong> nfs-kernel-server and nfs-common did not do the trick, it seems
[07:10] <cred> kaidelong: nfs is good for linux<->linux, here's a good guide on how to set it up: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/network-file-system.html
[07:10] <kaidelong> cred: It is a home network, I'd like to expose read-only access without authentication, samba would work best
[07:10] <kaidelong> ah alright
[07:11] <cred> kaidelong: "ro" means read only so it's real simple to share a directory as such
[07:12] <kaidelong> maybe I will give nfs a try
[07:12] <kaidelong> I was hoping against hope that I could do this with Ubuntu's graphical configuration tools
[07:13] <kaidelong> but I can't find any evidence of this being possible =(
[07:13] <cred> kaidelong: it's really not that hard to do it in the terminal
[07:13] <cred> kaidelong: just ask if something seems weird
[07:13] <kaidelong> yeah, I've set up samba shares that way before
[07:13] <cred> kaidelong: you basically just edit /etc/exports to show what you want to share, then you mount it on the remote system and you're done
[07:13] <cred> couldn't be easier
[07:14] <kaidelong> ah
[07:14] <kaidelong> does seem easier than samba then
[07:14] <kaidelong> it's like fstab but for a network?
[07:15] <cred> well.. fstab is where you put what you want to mount, so yeah, you put the nfs share in your fstab just like it was a local disk
[07:15] <Silenced_v2> Guy been trying to install AMD catalyst in my laptop . But couldn't succeed .Could u please suggest me . I tried Installing the required drivers but didn't seem to work
[07:15] <kaidelong> so remote mounts goes in fstab, exports to other machines in exports?
[07:15] <cred> so in that way you could have you network disk as /media/yolo and treat it like a regular disk which is nice
[07:16] <cred> kaidelong: any "automatic" mounts go in fstab, etc/exports lists what you want to share from the system that file is on
[07:16] <ubuntu297> I just installed skype, and I got hit by every message from the last month T_T
[07:16] <kaidelong> man nfs
[07:16] <kaidelong> oops
[07:17] <ubuntu297> I think I crashed skype as soon as I started it
[07:22] <Silenced_v2> Guy been trying to install AMD catalyst in my laptop . But couldn't succeed .Could u please suggest me . I tried Installing the required drivers but didn't seem to work
[07:22] <Silenced_v2> Can anyone help me out with this ?
[07:32] <cred> Silenced_v2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[07:33] <eac_> hi!
[07:48] <Koyaanis1> hello, #ubuntu. someone here dedicated enough to help me with my ubuntu installation problem, where I have no clue how to set up this hardware raid 0 and install ubuntu on it?
[07:51] <adsc> why do you want raid 0?
[07:52] <adsc> it's a bit obsolete nowadays
[07:52] <adsc> also hardware raid != ubuntu
[07:55] <treeprogram> Hi, if I want my browser to close after 1 hour, is there any way I can script that?
[07:55] <EriC^^> treeprogram: sleep 3600 && pkill <browser>
[07:56] <ObrienDave> that was easy ;P
[07:56] <cred> treeprogram like EriC^^ said it's really that simple. "sleep 3600" waits for 3600 seconds, && means "only execute the rest if the part before succeeds" and then it run the commands to kill your browser process
[07:57] <treeprogram> EriC^^: cred thanks
[07:57] <EriC^^> no problem
[08:00] <dpak>  /nick MaBooToo
[08:00] <ObrienDave> *sighs*
[08:04] <ablest1980> hello
[08:14] <DXBLouie> hi everyone
[08:16] <DXBLouie> quick question... i've had a fakeraid (intel) drive failure.. and after days trying to rebuild and upgrade the array to larger capacities, i gave up.. and i'm now using md software raid and happy... however in my attempts to get things running, i switched back and forth between mdadm and dmraid, each one reconfigured boot packages, etc.. and now that everything is working, i realized deborphan shows grub2
[08:17] <DXBLouie> i normally like to dpkg --purge `deborphan` after a big upgrade.. and i can't do that now, because it seems like i'm missing some ubuntu meta package that depends on grub2
[08:17] <DXBLouie> any ideas?
[08:32] <ablest1980> hello i need adobe flash for ubuntu 14.04 lts 64 bit google chrome
[08:32] <cred> ablest1980: flash is included with google chrome afaik
[08:33] <ablest1980> ok
[08:33] <ablest1980> what about java 8?
[08:39] <Secret-Fire> when finding a linear function using euler's method, is the function of the form y-y1=m(x-x1) where x1 is the step size?
[08:39] <Secret-Fire> oops wrong room
[08:39] <elmcrest> hey everyone. I need to "sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" after every reboot. Does anyone has an Idea to fix this? 14.04 LTS and all attempts with google didn't solve the issue.
[08:40] <ablest1980> how do i install java 8 64 ?
[08:40] <cred> ablest1980: java does not work in chrome, period. You can install it in Firefox.
[08:40] <ablest1980> :(
[08:40] <cred> ablest1980: http://askubuntu.com/questions/354361/how-to-install-the-java-plugin-for-firefox
[08:41] <cred> get the "icedtea-plugin" one unless you know you need the non-free one
[08:41] <ablest1980> i downloaded chrome and uninstalled firefox for netflix but chess.com need java 8
[08:42] <ablest1980> ill try iced tea
[08:44] <jarco> Hello, I cant get zmq to be recodnised by my apache2. It is seen on the cli php with the command php -m but in apache it doesnt seem to work (it is in the apache php.ini tough)
[08:48] <gmg85> hi?
[08:48] <gmg85> I created a file named \ by mistake
[08:48] <gmg85> how can i delete it?
[08:48] <cfhowlett> gmg85, rm 1'
[08:49] <gmg85> everytime I try to i end up in a new line.
[08:49] <cfhowlett> gmg85, rm ` \  `
[08:50] <Qantourisc> How can I list all services that will start during boot ?
[08:50] <Qantourisc> or rather shutdown in this case
[08:50] <gmg85> did not work unfortunately
[08:50] <EriC^^> gmg85: rm '\'
[08:51] <cfhowlett> gmg85, '\'     sorry, I used the wrong `
[08:51] <moijk> I need to run an x server on a headless server. I see Xvnc beeing mentioned as an option in some guides, but I can't seem to find anything called that (just regular vnc) for unbuntu?
[08:51] <somsip> !info xvfb | moijk
[08:51] <cfhowlett> moijk, better advice in #ubuntu-server maybe?
[08:52] <somsip> moijk: er, actually that's maybe not what you need. Though it might be
[08:52] <Qantourisc> ok the docs in /etc/rc?.d/README are grosly outdated: K does NOT dissable
[08:52] <gmg85> cfhowlett, thanks.That worked
[08:53] <cfhowlett> gmg85, thanks EriC^^ I totally missed that
[08:53] <moijk> somsip: In fact, it might just do fine. thanks.
[08:53] <somsip> moijk: np
[08:58] <krambiorix> hi, how can i install the adobe acrobat reader plugin for firefox?
[09:02] <Guest51758> what is the topic?
[09:02] <cfhowlett> !topic | Guest51758
[09:03] <Guest51758> topic
[09:05] <krambiorix> hi, how can i install the adobe acrobat reader plugin for firefox?
[09:08] <Nectar> I have Windows and Ubuntu on two partitions. How would I go about increasing the ubuntu partition?
[09:09] <cfhowlett> Nectar, gparted.
[09:09] <Nectar> possible and easy?
[09:09] <Nectar> is that a live cd>
[09:10] <cfhowlett> Nectar, yes.  make an ubuntu usb.  boot.  fire up gparted.  partition away.
[09:10] <Nectar> thanks man!
[09:12] <krambiorix> ok, so nobody knows of a PDF viewer for firefox on ubuntu?
[09:13] <cfhowlett> krambiorix, comes with one by default iirc
[09:14] <krambiorix> cfhowlett, nope
[09:15] <noobified> sup yall
[09:16] <noobified> apt-get install beer
[09:16] <Neo9> Does .deb package takes commandline arguments as input?
[09:17] <krambiorix> noobified, apt-get install your_mother
[09:17] <krambiorix> :D
[09:18] <noobified> heh
[09:19] <cfhowlett> krambiorix, evince is included on my xubuntu, works great with FFOX
[09:20] <noobified> maybe someone can solve this one I got [ERROR] Could not change MAC: interface up or insufficient permissions: Device or resource busy
[09:20] <noobified> do I need set wlan1 down?
[09:21] <krambiorix> thx cfhowlett
[09:22] <cfhowlett> happy2help! krambiorix
[09:27] <retrovirus> Hi, at the moment I'm using Arch Linux. I want to dual boot Arch and Ubuntu and want to use new, bleeding-edge software in Arch; and run stable software in Ubuntu. Which Ubuntu release should I use 14.04.0? or 14.04.2? Maybe I should wait for 14.04.3? Is there a significant difference in 12.04.5 (Precise Pangolin)?
[09:28] <cfhowlett> !LTS | retrovirus
[09:28] <cfhowlett> retrovirus, 14.04.2 is current LTS
[09:28] <retrovirus> I know what LTS means
[09:29] <retrovirus> So I better use 14.04.2 not 12.04.5?
[09:29] <Neo9> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31851950/does-deb-package-accepts-commandline-arguments
[09:29] <retrovirus> Here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Kernel.2BAC8-Support.A14.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support 14.04.3 is dated Aug 2015. When will it released?
[09:30] <k1l> retrovirus: should be today
[09:31] <retrovirus> k1l: It will be released today? So do you think I should use 14.04.3 instead of 14.04.2; or is the latter more stable?
[09:32] <k1l> retrovirus: the point releases (14.04.2, 14.04.3) are like servicepacks on windows + they offer a new backportskernel and graphicstack
[09:32] <Secret-Fire> how can i get my game controller working in 15.04
[09:33] <k1l> retrovirus: the kernel is backported form 15.04 to the 14.04.3 so its already tested.
[09:33] <retrovirus> k1l: I have no idea about Windows or its service packs. But I guess it's a positive contribution and won't change stability, judging from its name. So I'll use 14.04.3 Thanks!
[09:34] <k1l> retrovirus: if you install a 14.04 original image you need to load all updates after the install. the pointreleases have those updates included already. + the newer kernel to provide better hardware support for modern systems.
[09:35] <retrovirus> k1l: I see, thanks! This was helpful! Glad that I asked so I can wait just one day and install 14.04.3
[09:38] <baja> i am trying to access myfile system using terminal but i cannot see filesystem using ls command
[09:38] <EriC^^> baja: what filesystem?
[09:39] <baja> /var/lib/dpkg
[09:39] <EriC^^> ls -la /var/lib/dpkg shows nothing?
[09:39] <baja> let me try
[09:40] <baja> good works thanks
[09:41] <EriC^^> ls /var/lib/dpkg should work too
[09:46] <coraxx> I have a sort of out-of-the-blue question ... does any of you remember the totally free website-hosts like Xoom, GeoCities, Angelfire and TriPod.  The ones I have just mentioned has either stopped or been bought by others ...does anyone know of a new or remaining site of that kind ?
[09:47] <k1l> coraxx: that better suits into #ubuntu-offtopic or ##chat
[09:47] <coraxx> k1l: ok :-)
[09:51] <EriC^^> coraxx: there's http://www.000webhost.com/ i think
[09:53] <coraxx> EriC^^: thanx ... I came across them doing my googleling.  I will try them out.
[09:58] <m1dnight_> Hey guys; im trying to add a repo (sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates ) but apt)-get update gives me 404 on the repos?
[09:58] <m1dnight_> Any help?
[10:01] <impalle> maybe something went wrong before/during the installation. Have you tried reinstalling?
[10:01] <m1dnight_> the ppas?
[10:01] <m1dnight_> yes
[10:01] <impalle> ppa-purge to remove the package
[10:01] <m1dnight_> ah okay, hold on
[10:04] <foofoobar> Hi. I just installed OpenVPN with this tutorial (https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server-on-ubuntu-14-04) and configured my osx. I can connect successfull and also traceroute work (i can see that the packets are routes through my server).
[10:04] <foofoobar> However, I dont know why but browsers or IRC do not work. I always get a connection timeout
[10:04] <foofoobar> any idea what I can do ?
[10:07] <Secret-Fire> how can i get my gamepad working in xubuntu?
[10:07] <m1dnight_> impalle: i did the purge yet it still persists.
[10:08] <m1dnight_> I have done the purge as well. I noticed that adding the ppa pointed out to purge the old ppa as well, which I did.
[10:09] <k1l> m1dnight_: please put all the command and output into a pastebin
[10:09] <k1l> !away > utlemming_away
[10:18] <Secret-Fire> can someone help me get my game pad working?
[10:20] <k1l> Secret-Fire: i bet that depends heavily on the used gamepad
[10:22] <cred> m1dnight_: what's unclear about the repo being 404? It doesn't exist
[10:22] <Secret-Fire> k1l: it worked before in other xubuntu versions
[10:22] <Secret-Fire> k1l: logitech f310
[10:23] <MonkeyDust> cred  yes, 404 means it doesnt exist, a dead link
[10:23] <Secret-Fire> k1l: system recognizes it with lsusb but no input
[10:23] <cred> MonkeyDust: why are you telling me?
[10:24] <impalle> MonkeyDust: correct, that is also why K1l requested all the command and output into a pastebin
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> cred  ok, it was someone elses problem, i addressed the wrong person
[10:25] <k1l> but since m1dnight_ is not answering i think he lost motivation anyway
[10:33] <hu2015> 为什么来这里的总是挂着   。。。
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[10:38] <nibin> hai
[10:38] <bittin> hai
[10:44] <chip_> hi
[10:44] <x4w3> quick :)
[10:44] <chip_> hello
[10:44] <x4w3> jai! :)
[10:44] <chip_> oing
[10:44] <chip_> ping
[10:45] <chip_> exit
[10:45] <x4w3> happyness!
[10:50] <ivo34> hello I need some help undoing some lxc installation I made and I no longer need which is giving me networking problems due to a lxc bridge. here the tutorial I followed: http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
[10:50] <ivo34> which would be the right way to get rid of it?
[10:53] <ivo34> to sum up I just run this: sudo apt-get install lxc lxc-templates debootstrap and then this: sudo lxc-create -t ubuntu -n my32bitbox -- --bindhome $ivo -a i386 --release trusty
[10:54] <MonkeyDust> ivo34  this my irssi runs in a lxc container... so you want to delete your container?
[10:55] <matt_symes> #
[10:55] <ivo34> MonkeyDust,  I installed the container to get the wine-git compiling 32 libraries in a 64 bits system...
[10:56] <ivo34> MonkeyDust,  I dont mind having that wine-git...but as I told you I am having networking problems on boot
[10:56] <ivo34> route -n gives no gateway
[10:57] <ivo34> and I am using static config under /etc/network/interfaces which got me puzzled
[10:57] <ivo34> I don't understand how the bridge is affecting my network...but I got it working again by   sudo ip addr flush dev eth0
[10:57] <MonkeyDust> ivo34  i'm not familiar with git, but what do you want to do now? undo an installation inside the container, or delete the container?
[10:58] <ivo34> and then sudo ifdown eth0 sudo ifup eth0
[10:58] <ivo34> MonkeyDust,  leave it as it was before installing lxc
[10:58] <suku> ivo34: have you tried adding a static route using the route command
[10:58] <ivo34> I dont need lxc anymore
[10:59] <ivo34> suku I dont know how to do that
[10:59] <ivo34> well and knowing it I am not typing that any time I boot
[11:00] <ivo34> I thought it would be easier...I am not scripting in rc.local
[11:00] <ivo34> I just want my /network/interfaces do the job
[11:00] <Braden`> Hello!
[11:01] <ivo34> hi
[11:01] <suku> ivo34: i was just doing it to see if it would work, not a perm fix
[11:01] <Braden`> I installed fastcgi php5-fpm and now Apache is trying to output the contents of PHP files instead of processing them.  What do I do to fix this?
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> ivo34  is lxc-destroy what you want? scroll down   https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/lxc.html
[11:01] <ivo34> hahaha
[11:01] <ivo34> lxc-destroy!!
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> yes, sounds 'très' star wars
[11:02] <suku> ivo34: sorry didnt realize you were trying to fix this due to lxc
[11:03] <ivo34> hmmm
[11:03] <ivo34> most probably cause yep
[11:04] <ivo34> and as I also installed wine-stager I dont need wine-git
[11:20] <pot8to> Question, I'm wondering if it's possible to setup a Sftp server with ubuntu inside a Virtual Machine on my Windows machine. But I wanted to know if I can mount a hard drive used in windows inside of the VM so I can access my files outside my home or in the local network
[11:24] <pesari> pot8to: depends on your VM, for example virtualbox supports presenting host files to guest. But then again, you could just install ssh server on your windows
[11:24] <Saturn812> your vm needs to support sharing folders with host system. Otherwise, seems very doable
[11:25] <_SLM_> Hi, one of my computers have become frustratingly slow and unreliable. It´s a Acer laptop with a i5 CPU. I want Linux Ubuntu, but in the past driver issues stopped me from using it. How can I get drivers to work on Linux?
[11:26] <m1dnight_> k1l: Will do. Was afk for dinner.
[11:26] <m1dnight_> cred: I was under the assumption that I would need it to get bumblebee to work properly.
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> _SLM_  removing zeitgzist improved speed on my old laptop
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> zeitgeist*
[11:27] <k1l> m1dnight_: bumblebee is old. nvidia-prime is the official nvidia driver for hybrid cards
[11:27] <_SLM_> Nah, I mean it currently has Windows. I want to move to Linux
[11:27] <m1dnight_> derp; on to that one then :)
[11:27] <m1dnight_> thanks k1l
[11:28] <k1l> _SLM_: that depends on the exact hardware. but in general hardware support got better over time
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> _SLM_  first install ubuntu, then come back
[11:28] <WizJin> hmm
[11:29] <_SLM_> MonkeyDust, this is my main work PC, I need to do it right. No harm in preparation
[11:30] <_SLM_> k1l, is there a specific software in Linux that can reliably run Windows drivers in Linux?
[11:30] <MonkeyDust> _SLM_  yes, but it's hard to tell if something will work
[11:31] <k1l> _SLM_: you got the wrong idea of drivers. you need a specific driver for a specific hardware piece. so without any details we cant help you
[11:31] <_SLM_> Ok, so I should come back with a list of hardware?