[02:54] <Hugolp> when the back end is running I get this if I run it from the console
[02:54] <Hugolp> 2007-08-03 14:53:35.626 JobQueue: Commercial Flagging Starting for FUTURAMA recorded from channel 1530 at dv ago 3 14:53:00 2007
[02:54] <Hugolp> Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[02:54] <Hugolp> anyone knows what it is?
[02:54] <laga> yes
[02:54] <laga> it's a message from qt or X AFAIK
[02:54] <laga> ignore it ;)
[02:54] <Hugolp> ok
[02:55] <Hugolp> but it took like 2 or 3 seconds to handle
[02:55] <Hugolp> its just my mythtv loading images screen takes like 5 or 6 seconds to appear and I guess something bad configured is slowing it
[02:56] <Hugolp> what about this: [mpegts @ 0xb72c1ec0] Parser not found for Codec Id: 94211 ! ?
[02:57] <laga> no
[02:57] <laga> it's normal that mythrontend takes a bit to load
[02:57] <laga> it'll be much faster in 0.21
[02:58] <Hugolp> ok laga thanks
[02:58] <laga> 14:49 < Hugolp> what about this: [mpegts @ 0xb72c1ec0] Parser not found for Codec Id: 94211 ! ?
[02:58] <laga> ^^ i get those too
[02:59] <laga> should be ok *shrug*
[03:00] <Hugolp> laga probably ffmpeg isue?
[03:00] <laga> yup
[03:00] <laga> but it doesn't hurt i guess
[03:01] <Hugolp> by the way I got all the icon for the channels for spain for myself and can give them to you in case you are interested
[03:02] <Hugolp> dont know if any of you are automating the icon thing
[03:02] <laga> there's a nice icon grabber in trunk
[03:02] <laga> it'll be in 0.21 :)
[03:02] <Hugolp> cool, even for Spain?
[03:03] <Hugolp> open source allways forgets about Spain
[03:03] <laga> i used it the other day.. it takes some time if you have lots of channels, but it's not too bad
[03:03] <laga> Hugolp: it worked for germany. they use lyngsat for icons
[03:03] <Hugolp> I feel like a live in an underdevelop country
[03:03] <laga> hehe
[03:04] <Hugolp> anyway, if you need help transalating or any isue for Spain or Catalonia (Mythtv is in catalan as well) you an check with me
[03:05] <laga> cool :)
[04:59] <superm1> laga, you here?
[04:59] <laga> yup
[05:00] <laga> superm1: yes
[05:01] <superm1> laga, i think that there is still an issue in the mythweb packages even the -fixes ones
[05:01] <laga> great :(
[05:01] <superm1> because i added the fixes to the mythbuntu builds
[05:01] <superm1> and some people on -users said they were getting dpkg hanging
[05:01] <laga> what kind of issue?
[05:01] <laga> awesome.
[05:01] <superm1> so http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/282071
[05:02] <laga> wait a second. flash just killed my firefox.
[05:03] <laga> ah
[05:03] <laga> hum
[05:03] <laga> "uh-oh".
[05:03] <superm1> i responded to that thread this morning
[05:03] <superm1> asking if frsh install
[05:03] <superm1> or upgrade
[05:03] <superm1> but the thing is, i didn't encounter this on any of my test runs
[05:03] <superm1> either fresh install from a purge
[05:03] <superm1> or from an older package
[05:03] <laga> i still do. i assumed it was a problem with my merge.
[05:03] <superm1> consistently?
[05:04] <laga> yep
[05:04] <superm1> well what to do then?
[05:04] <superm1> what else about the packaging can be causing it
[05:04] <superm1> and how do i make it happen for me:)
[05:05] <laga> i have no clue. interestingly enough, it works when i execute those mythweb.* scripts manually.
[05:05] <laga> heh
[05:05] <superm1> oh i know
[05:05] <superm1> keescook, mentioned something
[05:05] <superm1> add a set -x
[05:05] <laga> i must have missed the "debugging postinst scripts" in the manual..
[05:05] <superm1> to the top of hte postinst scripts
[05:05] <laga> hum, true
[05:05] <superm1> it will tell you the last step its stuck on
[05:06] <laga> let's try that
[05:06] <laga> ;)i need to rebuild plugins anyways
[05:07] <superm1> well in an effort to save time (i've gotta leave in a few min, and won't be back for most the weekend), can you just add it to the postinst after partially configuring
[05:07] <superm1> and then try to dpkg --configure -a
[05:07] <superm1> to execute it
[05:08] <laga> k
[05:11] <laga> http://www.pastebin.ca/644402
[05:11] <laga> superm1: ^^
[05:12] <superm1> laga, so it exited normally?
[05:12] <laga> gah
[05:12] <laga> wai a second, i commented out a bunch of stuff in the postinst
[05:13] <tgm4883> superm1, did you ever update us so we can kill blueprints
[05:13] <superm1> tgm4883, i looked around for a setting but didn't find it on a glance
[05:13] <superm1> let me look again
[05:13] <laga> superm1: hum. again, i get "exit 0"
[05:13] <superm1> laga, so you fixed it?
[05:13] <superm1> :)
[05:14] <laga> it's hanging.
[05:14] <laga> yeah
[05:14] <laga> i fixed it
[05:14] <laga> heh
[05:14] <superm1> wait i dont get it, so it exit 0's and hangs
[05:14] <laga> add "db_stop" to the end of the file
[05:14] <laga> yes.
[05:14] <laga> it did an exit 0 and hung
[05:14] <laga> with db_stop, it's OK now i guess
[05:14] <superm1> well if that's all
[05:14] <superm1> that's great to hear
[05:15] <laga> i believe i actually tried that back then..  ah well, i'm too tired
[05:15] <laga> i'll try to install a fixed packge
[05:15] <tgm4883> whoa, who changed our website and didn't tell me
[05:15] <superm1> tgm4883, you should be able to now
[05:15] <superm1> tgm4883, i changed it, i told the channel :)
[05:15] <superm1> you like?
[05:15] <chuk> what is the default password for the myth user that gets created in mythbuntu?
[05:16] <superm1> chuk, that isn't defined
[05:16] <tgm4883> looks awesome
[05:16] <chuk> meaning no password?
[05:16] <superm1> chuk, meaning you can't login as the mythtv user
[05:16] <superm1> its not intended for that
[05:16] <chuk> ah, ok
[05:17] <chuk> I am having a problem with lirc on the latest mythbuntu
[05:17] <chuk> I have an ATI USB RF remote
[05:17] <superm1> chuk, what sort of problem?
[05:17] <chuk> and I tried both userspace, and non, and I can't get it to recognize the remote
[05:17] <chuk> i.e nothing happens when I push any buttons
[05:17] <superm1> chuk, if you dpkg-reconfiugre lirc
[05:17] <superm1> choose the ATI usb remote option
[05:19] <chuk> userspace one?
[05:19] <laga> superm1: db_stop seems to fix it. at least it shouldn't brek anything :)
[05:20] <chuk> also, it seems the server in the sources.list is down
[05:21] <chuk> any reason it is usign the cs.umn.edu ones over the archive.ubuntu ones?
[05:23] <superm1> chuk, those are closer to the build server, so they are used during the build
[05:23] <superm1> didn't realize they stuck afterward too :)
[05:23] <chuk> ah
[05:23] <superm1> chuk, when you dpkg-reconfigure lirc it asks you for a remote type
[05:23] <superm1> it handles the driver
[05:23] <superm1> it needs
[05:23] <superm1> and such
[05:24] <chuk> right, which one should I select for the ati usb?  the userspace one or non?
[05:24] <chuk> I think the non uses the kernel module?
[05:24] <superm1> oh non userspace
[05:24] <superm1> def
[05:24] <chuk> oh, interesting
[05:24] <superm1> it loads a kernel module yes
[05:24] <superm1> laga, where did you put the db_stop?
[05:24] <chuk> I had read some other stuff saying that userspace was the better to use, because the kernel module didn't recognize a bunch of the keys
[05:25] <superm1> chuk, i had bad luck with userspace a year or so ago with my old atiusb remote, but kernel module worked as expected
[05:26] <chuk> thats good enough for me
[05:26] <superm1> you'll see how things work out for you though :)
[05:26] <laga> superm1: http://www.pastebin.ca/644411
[05:26] <laga> superm1: in the postinst
[05:26] <superm1> interesting
[05:26] <superm1> okay i'll commit that to the weekly
[05:26] <superm1> and we'll see if that helps
[05:27] <chuk> I did the dpkg-reconfigure and I still don't get anything
[05:27] <chuk> any other steps I'm missing?
[05:27] <superm1> chuk, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lirc"
[05:27] <chuk> I had selected the non userspace remote during the install
[05:27] <superm1> oh right
[05:27] <chuk> yes, I did that
[05:27] <superm1> okay
[05:27] <superm1> so type irw
[05:27] <superm1> and try pressing buttons
[05:28] <chuk> nothing happens
[05:28] <chuk> irw looks like it just hangs
[05:28] <superm1> well you can hit ctrl c
[05:28] <superm1> to get out of it
[05:28] <superm1> well take a look at /etc/lirc/lircd.conf
[05:29] <superm1> and make sure that it looks right
[05:29] <superm1> and /etc/lirc/hardware.conf
[05:29] <chuk> device=""
[05:30] <chuk> modules="lirc_dev lirc_atiusb"
[05:30] <superm1> right looks good
[05:30] <superm1> and dmesg
[05:30] <chuk> driver=""
[05:30] <superm1> make sure that the atiusb module loaded
[05:32] <chuk> I get "/build/buildd/linux-source-2.6.22-2.6.22/drivers/input/misc/ati_remote.c: Registered USB driver ATI/X10 RF USB Remote Control v. 2.2.1"
[05:32] <chuk> when grepping for ATI
[05:32] <superm1> yea looks right
[05:32] <superm1> so it loaded
[05:33] <superm1> okay so you have a /dev/lirc0 then for the remote i'm assuming?
[05:33] <chuk> well, I have a /dev/lirc0
[05:33] <laga> ati_remote.c is the in-kernel driver, isn't id?
[05:33] <laga> s/id/it/
[05:33] <superm1> yes
[05:33] <chuk> btw, I realize this is outside the scope of mythbuntu, feel free to tell me to look elsewhere if you like
[05:34] <superm1> the onyl other thing i can think is that the lircd.conf you have doesn't match the remote
[05:34] <chuk> it looked ok
[05:34] <chuk> had all the usual atiusb nonsense in it
[05:34] <superm1> well i've actually gotta be running right now, i've got to move stuff ot another appt and then have a busy day ahead of me
[05:34] <chuk> where do I need the conf files?
[05:34] <laga> what does the lirc driver "lirc_dev" do?
[05:34] <superm1> i'll be able to touch bases again some point probably sunday
[05:34] <chuk> wasn't one needed under the home directory, etc?
[05:34] <laga> is it for the dev/input stuff?
[05:34] <superm1> its a dependency for lirc_atiusb
[05:35] <superm1> irw tries to capture keys describe in lircd.conf
[05:35] <laga> i'd assume that ati_remote.ko shouldn't be loaded
[05:35] <laga> buit that-'s just a guess
[05:35] <superm1> oh wait laga your right
[05:35] <superm1> i just looked at what you meant by that
[05:35] <chuk> because that takes over the remote?
[05:36] <chuk> and doesn't allow lirc to use it?
[05:36] <superm1> you may need to rmmod ati_remote
[05:36] <superm1> and then restart lirc so it loads the right lirc_atiusb
[05:36] <superm1> and try then
[05:36] <superm1> if that works, then something needs to be blacklisted for ati_remote
[05:36] <chuk> whats the proper way to re-start lirc?
[05:36] <chuk> yeah, I know in feisty, you need to blacklist the ati remote
[05:36] <chuk> in order to use lirc
[05:36] <superm1> so if it works, file a bug on launchpad against lirc, saying it needs to blacklist ati_remote when kernel driver is selected
[05:37] <superm1> sudo /etc/init.d/lirc restart
[05:38] <chuk> no go, but thanks for getting me started, I'll mess with it some more
[05:38] <superm1> okay, good luck, and oonce you get it figured out (if you do) file a bug, and we can have this fixed automatically for people
[05:38] <chuk> sure thing
[05:38] <superm1> tgm4883, send me a mail if you still can't change blue prints
[05:38] <superm1> you should be able to now thoug
[05:39] <superm1> i'll catch up with you guys later this weekend
[05:39] <tgm4883> yea i finally figured it out
[05:39] <tgm4883> was looking for a denied button or something
[05:40] <tgm4883> I'm not sure if I was suppose to, but I just gutted a blueprint because I think it did have one valid idea
[05:40] <tgm4883> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+spec/mythbuntu-desktop
[06:21] <DaveMorris> but mythbuntu isn't designed to be used as a PC
[06:21] <DaveMorris> for that you should install Ubuntu and the mythtv packages
[09:10] <seabag> i've got a really interesting question if anyone's around
[09:11] <DaveMorris> shoot
[09:14] <DaveMorris> I'm guessing its about suspending your PC and tuner cards not working again
[09:14] <seabag> ok, so i've got an asus motherboard with an integrated sis video card, and a wintv-pvr150mce
[09:14] <seabag> :D yes and no
[09:15] <seabag> superm1 showed me how to insert the "ivtv ivtv2" modules in the acpi-support
[09:16] <seabag> i thought that didn't work, because after that, the tuner would wake up and just display a blue screen. however, it does still record shows properly. you just have to restart in order to watch them. so my next guess is this- is it a video card issue?
[09:16] <DaveMorris> poss
[09:18] <nnnnnnnn> hi all
[09:18] <seabag> after restarting the x server all is well with the card
[09:19] <DaveMorris> out of interest whats wrong with doing a shutdown instead of a suspend
[09:19] <seabag> hi nn
[09:19] <seabag> well, mythtv should be able to suspend itself to save power, then wake up when it needs to record something
[09:20] <DaveMorris> I might not understand suspend correctly, but dosen't it turn it's self off then
[09:20] <seabag> it does, but suspend stays awake enough for mythtv to wake it up when it needs it... at least in theory
[09:21] <DaveMorris> cool (learns stuff everyday)
[09:22] <DaveMorris> I'm guessing you have a combined fe/be install which is whats causing the problem
[09:24] <tgm4883_laptop> hi nnnnnnnn
[09:24] <tgm4883_laptop> I was under the impression that mythtv set the wakeup function in the bios, and thought that it wasn't necessary for a suspend
[09:41] <nnnnnnnn> anyone knowledgeable about mythbuntu-alpha3 ?
[09:41] <nnnnnnnn> if so, a question -- booting from the installer cd fails to start xorg correctly;
[09:42] <nnnnnnnn> I can reconfigure it, but how do I resume the installation process?
[09:42] <seabag> DaveMorris, sorry i had to do some work there. anyway, what's a fe/be install?
[09:43] <seabag> nnnnnnnn, you'll have to find the program that resumes the install process... i'm not sure what that is off the top of my head
[09:43] <nnnnnnnn> yeah, that's what I need to find all right
[09:44] <nnnnnnnn> no guesses though?
[09:44] <seabag> read the console output when it starts up properly on another pc to find out
[09:44] <nnnnnnnn> seabag, I think fe/be means front-end/back-end
[09:44] <nnnnnnnn> well, it doesn't start up properly on another pc
[09:45] <seabag> ah yes it is both my fe and be. i tried another video card this morning but it was too old. i may just run out to a random store and get a better pci video card today
[09:49] <DaveMorris> I'm just wondering if it'll play back fine if you ran the frontend software on another PC
[09:49] <DaveMorris> in which case you've narrorowed down the problem to been the video card on the front end
[09:51] <seabag> well i know it's a video card problem on the frontend. :) because after waking up from suspend, it'll show the blue screen instead of the live tv signal. so, i set it to manually record a channel for 5 minutes. it recorded fine, but playback was blue screen (although strangely enough the little mini preview window was fine). i restarted, and it played back fine. so recording is perfect :D
[09:54] <DaveMorris> yeah, but it could be mythtv frontend which is causing the problem
[09:54] <DaveMorris> you tried restarting mythtv frontend
[09:55] <seabag> yes. also mplayer does it, without mythtvfrontend
[09:55] <seabag> i even tried it in my brother's computer w/o mythtv even installed. same thing
[09:55] <DaveMorris> def sounds like the video card then
[09:58] <seabag> ok cool. thanks man, sometimes it just takes bouncingn stuff off of someone
[09:58] <seabag> new video card sure beats new computer :D
[09:59] <seabag> *get a
[10:00] <DaveMorris> I'm cheap though and wouldn't use suspended :)
[10:00] <seabag> i'm pretty cheap too, but i gotta get it working right, if i want to buidl one of these for relatives or something
[10:02] <seabag> ok have a good one guys..
[11:00] <DaveMorris> mythbuntu.org appears to be down
[11:26] <kalidma> Hi can anyone help with movie covers and nfs
[11:27] <kalidma> I have my nfs mounts setup properly but i cannot see the metadata and movie posters on the slave
[11:28] <laga> um
[11:28] <laga> hum
[11:28] <laga> i believe the path to your video directory must be *the same*...
[11:28] <laga> yeah.
[11:32] <hugolp> yes
[11:32] <hugolp> laga is right
[11:32] <laga> he's gone
[11:32] <laga> but he's in #mythtv-users now
[11:33] <hugolp> impatient guy
[11:34] <laga> yes.
[11:45] <alpaca> hey all
[11:45] <alpaca> is it possible to play internet radio through mythtv?
[11:45] <alpaca> a shoutcast stream?
[11:45] <alpaca> or anything of that nature
[11:47] <kalidma> laga I am back can you help out still?
[11:47] <laga> probably
[11:47] <hugolp> hehehe
[11:47] <kalidma> Thankyou
[11:47] <laga> alpaca: there is mythstream and some shoutcast patches by a guy called eskil
[11:47] <kalidma> I have a masterbackend and slavebackend/frontend
[11:48] <kalidma> have NFS setup to export video directory
[11:48] <kalidma> On the backend I have the videos in the /myth/video directory that gets exported to /mnt/mythtvmasterbackend/video
[11:49] <kalidma> I have the covers in the hidden directory in the /myth/videos/.covers
[11:50] <kalidma> I have the path in media settings=> general settings => directory to store posters as /mnt/mythtvmasterbackend/video/.covers
[11:51] <kalidma> I can watch movies fine from slavefrontend but I cant get the metadata and posters
[11:53] <laga> hm
[11:53] <kalidma> do I need to create a seperate symbolic link for the .covers directory
[11:53] <laga> didn't you see my message where i told you that you need to have the videos in the same directory everywhere?
[11:53] <kalidma> yes
[11:54] <laga> well...
[11:54] <kalidma> well on the backend i really dont watch anything
[11:55] <kalidma> I can see the posters fine on the backend and it points to /myth/video/.covers
[11:55] <laga> you need to have the videos in the same directory everywhere?
[11:55] <laga> s/?/
[11:55] <laga> i'm telling you the third time now :)
[11:55] <kalidma> Ok Ok
[11:56] <kalidma> i am just confused (obviously) because the videos work fine from the frontend following the symbolic link
[11:57] <laga> if the path to the video is different, it is recognized as a different video
[11:57] <laga> thus no cover art
[11:57] <kalidma> So on the backend I have movies in /myth/video on the slave frontend I have the movies pointing to /mnt/mythtvmasterbackend/video
[11:58] <kalidma> so therefore that is a different path
[11:58] <laga> yup
[11:58] <kalidma> I have to have the backend as /mnt/mythtvmasterbackend/video
[11:58] <kalidma> and the covers on the backend as /mnt/mythtvmasterbackend/video/.covers
[11:59] <kalidma> OK
[11:59] <kalidma> thankyou going to try that right now
[12:01] <laga> sorry if i sound a bit moody, but i'm fighting mythbrowser ;)
[12:04] <alpaca> oh mythbrowser
[12:04] <alpaca> what a sassy dame
[12:04] <laga> heh
[12:05] <laga> trying to make youtube work
[12:05] <alpaca> ahh
[12:05] <alpaca> this shoutcast plugin seems nice