[12:06] <infinity> vesafb is just the one we copy there by default.  Users could put another one there if they really want it.
[12:06] <infinity> We don't actually use vesafb by default either, we use vga16fb.
[12:07] <alex_joni> ok, so I should probably put vga16fb in there too?
[12:08] <infinity> Nah, initramfs copies it in properly even if it's not in the initrd directory.
[12:08] <infinity> The hack we discussed is only required for vesafb, primarily because I didn't notice that slightly buggy behaviour before release.
[12:09] <alex_joni> to better explain what I'm trying to do. we're working on a linux-based CNC controller, and we chose Ubuntu as the primary platform. because it needs RT stuff, we need to provide kernel packages aswell. but we would like to have them as close as possible to the Ubuntu ones
[12:12] <alex_joni> ok, I'll ship the new kernel to some beta testers, and if they still have trouble with usplash I might get back to you if that's ok..
[01:02] <zul> heylo
[01:45] <zul> BenC: i emailed pitti the changelog
[01:55] <zul> BenC: what do you think of this for dapper-updates http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=5a9191ff683ce4ebfd2c6a15e2989f5b1f420321
[02:14] <zul> er..for 386 # CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND is not set
[02:50] <BenC> zul: maybe
[02:51] <BenC> zul: been in the main kernel since dec., so yeah, email me the URL so I can cherry pick it
[03:00] <BenC> zul: or cherry-pick it into your tree that I can pull from
[03:06] <zul> done.
[03:13] <zul> hmmm...i wonder when hoary-security and breezy-security will be open again
[03:39] <bluefoxicy> http://rafb.net/paste/results/mVnwz695.html  How's that for clean-up :)
[03:46] <zul> uh...the answer was on the kernet-team mailing list
[04:02] <bluefoxicy> zul:  I do not have that list.
[04:03] <zul> well check the archives then
[04:03] <bluefoxicy> ugh now I have to grep archives.  be back in 20 minutes.
[04:03] <bluefoxicy> ubuntu-kernel or what kernel-team
[04:04] <bluefoxicy> cool ok so it should be.
[04:04] <bluefoxicy> hopefully I can get the above patch merged.
[04:04] <bluefoxicy> (if it doesn't have retarded breakage)
[04:06] <bluefoxicy> I rewrote the address space randomization code (with help) to be more cross-platform in an attempt to get it working on alpha, arm, ppc, ppc64, x86, x86-64, sparc, and sparc64
[04:06] <bluefoxicy> the code delta is rather small and light, minimally intrusive, and builds on current infrastructure; I should be able to get it working on like every architecture that PaX randomizes on (since it's an adaptation of the PaX code to slip into existing infra)
[04:07] <bluefoxicy> which is like 13 archs.
[04:07] <bluefoxicy> Problem is due to the mmap_base being changed to TASK_SIZE without randomization at random times, there is a large lack of stability :)
[04:07] <bluefoxicy> I don't know WHY
[04:08] <bluefoxicy> and haven't figured out how current infra copes
[04:08] <bluefoxicy> it may be because I touch certain places in the code where in the same code block the mmap_base is used, changed, and used more
[04:08] <bluefoxicy> or something silly.
[12:47] <zul> heylo
[12:47] <ajmitch> hi
[12:48] <zul> hey ajmitch
[01:34] <sivang> hi all
[01:35] <sivang> what is the source package for an arch'es bin kernel package?
[01:35] <sivang> I want to check up the hook that dispatches a notiication to restart the system after a kernel is installed
[01:35] <sivang> anybody any idea?
[01:36] <zul> eh?
[01:38] <sivang> hi zul
[01:38] <sivang> whenever I Installa new kernel in dapper,
[01:38] <sivang> I get thje notification bubble that a system restart ir required
[01:38] <sivang> where lies the code to dispatch the notification ?
[01:39] <sivang> and also, how do I track which source package was used to produce my current running kernel?
[01:39] <sivang> (sorry for the too many questions)
[01:39] <zul> sivang: the notification is done in the debian/rules in linux-source-2.6.15
[01:40] <sivang> ah, thanks
[01:40] <sivang> that answers nmy ther quesiton as well ;)
[02:34] <alex_joni> infinity: around?
[02:41] <alex_joni> infinity: could you take a peek at http://pastebin.com/765049 (it boots ok, but no splash visible), the kernel is this one: http://dsplabs.cs.upt.ro/emc2/dists/dapper/emc2/binary-i386/linux-headers-2.6.15-magma_aj3_i386.deb
[06:00] <zul> ick....https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HideFilesystemStructure soneone wants use to use the gobohide patch..
[06:01] <bluefoxicy> o_O
[06:11] <mvo> hello BenC, do you have a opinion about the dazuko (http://www.dazuko.org/) kernel module? we got a request if we can make it available in our kernel by default
[06:12] <zul> for edgy?
[06:16] <crimsun> yeah
[06:17] <sivang> where di dthe request come from? :)
[06:18] <crimsun> sivang: meaning who submitted it, or where is the request? [https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityEdgyIdeas/Kernel]
[06:18] <sivang> ah, thanks
[06:20] <zul> mvo: i dont have a problem with it but thats just my opinnon
[06:21] <sivang> crimsun: how does KalamV utilize this kernel module?
[06:21] <crimsun> sivang: I'm not familiar with either, actually. It looks like ArthurPenn added it.
[06:22] <sivang> ah, I see.
[06:25] <bluefoxicy> dazuko is interesting, it provides access control from user space
[06:25] <bluefoxicy> this allows you to write SELinux in user space I guess
[06:25] <bluefoxicy> but more interestingly, you can do things like virus scan files when someone tries to open them, and control access based on results.
[06:26] <sivang> bluefoxicy: wow, this is cenrainly cool
[06:50] <BenC> mvo: Does anything (like gnome) use dazuko yet?
[06:50] <fabbione> hey ben
[06:51] <fabbione> BenC: if you want to pull from ubuntu-dapper from me, i did the HUGETLB page changes on davem input, but they change the ABI
[06:51] <fabbione> i am not sure you want to bump it or we should hide it since sparc is not released
[06:51] <fabbione> imho it would be better to bump it
[06:51] <fabbione> but i leave it up to you
[06:52] <fabbione> tg3 is almost fixed
[06:52] <zul> BenC: i could do the bump so i could learn howto
[06:53] <zul> or not
[06:53] <fabbione> zul: there is a debian/rules target for it :)
[06:53] <fabbione> it's not that difficult ;)
[06:53] <zul> true but dont you have to change the control files and the like?
[06:54] <fabbione> nope
[06:54] <fabbione> the target should do that for you
[06:55] <fabbione> read the code luke
[06:55] <zul> meh..
[06:55] <BenC> fabbione: do we really need a dump for dapper-updates?
[06:55] <BenC> s/dump/bum/
[06:56] <BenC> damnit...BUMP
[06:56] <fabbione> well it would be dapper-security
[06:56] <zul> heh..dyslexia is setting in
[06:56] <BenC> well, yeah, but we are doing a bump?
[06:56] <fabbione> and it's only sparc.. on one side it's not released.. on the other we know that tons of people are running it
[06:56] <fabbione> i think we can't avoid abi bumps forever
[06:57] <fabbione> so we might as well do it properly
[06:57] <crimsun> yeah, better to be safe than sorry
[06:57] <BenC> well, if we have to have a bump, I have a change that needs to be made too :)
[06:57] <BenC> HZ=250 instead of HZ=1000
[06:57] <mvo> BenC: no, we got a request from a 3rd party vendor
[06:57] <BenC> it's killing a lot of laptops
[06:57] <fabbione> BenC: i think we need to change pov for dapper...
[06:57] <fabbione> with a 5 years support we will change abi a lot
[06:57] <fabbione> no matter what
[06:58] <BenC> yeah, we may even move to a newer kernel in dapper over time
[06:58] <fabbione> exactly
[06:58] <fabbione> so i think we should remove the dust from the procedure and do it
[06:58] <BenC> I wouldn't mind moving to edgy's kernel in dapper after edgy releases and is proven stable
[06:58] <zul> BenC: i think pitti wants to talk as well as well
[06:58] <fabbione> well that's not an easy step.. rememebr we have hw certification
[06:59] <BenC> zul: repetition...sign of alzheimers :)
[06:59] <zul> hehe
[06:59] <BenC> mvo: File a wishlist bug for dazuko...I can do it, but I need the reminder :)
[07:00] <mvo> BenC: cool, thanks :)
[07:00] <zul> ooh...can we have reiserfs4 in edgy ;0
[07:00] <fabbione> mvo: did they ask it for edgy or dapper?
[07:00] <BenC> fabbione: is davem's tg3 fix in your tree or his?
[07:00] <fabbione> BenC: it's none, the fix is not complete yet
[07:00] <BenC> ok
[07:00] <fabbione> BenC: there are more bugs
[07:00] <BenC> no upload till we get that anyway
[07:01] <fabbione> that one fixes one of them
[07:01] <mvo> fabbione: they asked for dapper, but we can't do it (obviously), but it would be nice to make the maintainance easier
[07:01] <fabbione> well you can still upload for -security
[07:01] <fabbione> don't hold up everything on sparc
[07:01] <fabbione> mvo: right...
[07:01] <BenC> fabbione: if it's a matter of 1-2 days, I can hold off
[07:01] <BenC> mvo: if it's self-contained, I can do it for dapper...
[07:01] <fabbione> BenC: no idea.. there is also the 4 core T1 issue that's not being investigated yet
[07:07] <zul> BenC: i should have a couple of patches for you for dapper soon..
[07:08] <fabbione> zul: don't break anything please
[07:08] <fabbione> ;)
[07:08] <zul> fabbione: when was the last time i broke something :)
[07:08] <zul> dont anwser that..
[07:09] <fabbione> *no comment*
[07:09] <zul> :P
[07:19] <zul> whoops...it looks like i got some work to do tonight
[07:51] <zul> uh so edgy is open now?
[07:52] <Keybuk> nope
[07:52] <Keybuk> however there's a queue at the door
[07:52] <Keybuk> and I'm dressed up as a bouncer deciding who can come in or not
[07:52] <zul> ah..
[07:53] <Keybuk> a bit like Steve Rubell ... "not in that shirt"
[07:53] <zul> with your velvet rope no doubt
[07:57] <BenC> go figured, I had to bribe him to get in
[08:35] <WebMaven> BenC: Did you get my feedback on the 2.6.17 kernel?
[09:07] <zul> BenC: the asm_volitile needs to be changed to alternative_input :(
[09:47] <BenC> WebMaven: yeah
[09:47] <BenC> zul: where?
[09:47] <zul> in the arch/i386/kernel/cpu/amd.c file
[09:49] <zul> uh...i mean the include/asm-i386/i387.h it was changed 2005-07-22
[09:52] <BenC> Ok, so you're working on a patch for x87 bug?
[09:52] <zul> yeah..i was looking through it..
[09:53] <zul> i should have a fix for it tonight
[09:55] <BenC> excellent
[09:55] <zul> build it tomorrow during the day and all that fun stuff
[09:55] <BenC> are you also working on the bugs you assigned to yourself?
[09:56] <BenC> just want to make sure I can take them out of my list
[09:57] <zul> yeah all the bugs im working from now on are assigned to me
[10:02] <WebMaven> BenC: So when would you like me to test a fix for my bug on this laptop?
[10:03] <BenC> WebMaven: when I get a fix...
[10:13] <WebMaven> OK.
[11:51] <zul> hey
[12:00] <crimsun> heya zul
[12:01] <zul> hey crimsun how is it going?
[12:01] <crimsun> zul: not too bad, having some coffee, yourself?
[12:02] <zul> good just doing fixes
[12:02] <zul> and watching simpsons
[12:03] <crimsun> nice :)


[00:00] <BUGabundo> host: lucid 64, guest karmic 32
[00:00] <BUGabundo> ahhhhh
[00:01] <arand> BUGabundo: Yea, It's the guest kernel version that exposes the bug in vbox, not the host...
[00:08]  * BUGabundo wonder why both karmic and jaunty lost portuguese keyb this week
[00:19] <DanaG1> rsync: recv_generator: failed to stat "/home/dana/.thunderbird-3.0/dana/dana/ImapMail/imap.gmail-1.com/INBOX.mozmsgs/%7BDIGIT%7D%7BDIGIT%7D%7BDIGIT%7D%7BDIGIT%7D%7BDIGIT%7D%7BDIGIT%7D%7BDIGIT%7D%7BDIGIT%7D%7BDIGIT%7D%7BDIGIT%7D%7BDIGIT%7D%7BDIGIT%7D%7BDIGIT%7D%7BDIGIT%7D.78456B2DB2%40W34J14R.wdseml": File name too long (36)
[00:19] <DanaG1> nice.
[00:22] <BUGabundo> ahahaha
[00:26] <LimCore> hi, anyone on Lucid can test following bug?
[00:26] <LimCore> it takes just copy-paste 5 commands as root, then 5 as user, very fast
[00:26] <LimCore> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/subversion/+bug/520743
[00:27] <BUGabundo> without reading the bug, FYI in debian unstable that doesn't happen
[00:28] <LimCore> BUGabundo: you mean my bug?  cool :) but are you sure, how do you know :)
[00:28] <BUGabundo> I use SVN daily
[00:28] <LimCore> if you could copy paste this 2 sets of commands and paste the user part as comment for Debian, we would have a clue :)
[00:29] <BUGabundo> ping me tomorrow
[00:29] <BUGabundo> if I have some free time at work, ill test both debian and lucid
[00:29] <LimCore> BUGabundo: if you help me guys, I am going to increase security in SVN by  1) authz also for ssh+svn  2) more GOD DAMNED logging
[00:29] <LimCore> ok woot BUGabundo.   btw got jabber<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:30] <BUGabundo> done
[00:32] <histo> Wow all kinds of problems in new updates over the last few days
[00:33] <histo> I can no longer resume from suspend monitor doesn't turn back on.
[00:33] <BUGabundo> me too
[00:34] <BUGabundo> histo: what GPU and driver?
[00:34] <histo> I can't boot in to gdm. I get a mouse and a blinking curser int he upper left.  I have to switch to tty and restart gdm
[00:34] <histo> BUGabundo: intel 915 I believe.
[00:34] <histo> BUGabundo: whatever driver defaults to.
[00:35] <BUGabundo> histo: I bet you are with newer kernel
[00:35] <BUGabundo> boot into the -12 older one
[00:35]  * BUGabundo was hit by the same
[00:35] <histo> BUGabundo: problem was there with 12
[00:35] <histo> BUGabundo: I think I have to go back even further
[00:41] <DanaG1>  hmm, %7b and %7d seem to be left and right curly brackets.
[00:41] <DanaG1> so that error message really was:
[00:41] <DanaG1><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:15] <maxb> has anyone else tried playing DVDs in totem on lucid?
[02:17] <maxb> For me, the video plays for ~1s then freezes, whilst the audio carries on
[02:55] <bubulein> moin moin
[02:58] <bubulein> im trying to setup a wireleslan ( broadcom BCM4312 ). after a reboot i can see the wlan0 with ifconfig. if i try iwlist scan i get no result for this card. what can i do to solve this prob ( any addinal information needed?) running Linux nick 2.6.32-13-generic #18-Ubuntu
[02:58] <bubulein> i instelled the driver acording to this tut: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1266620
[03:06] <kklimonda> anyone know how to debug hibernation?
[03:07] <h00k> Interesting, I have had an empathy update that shows in upgrade manager but I cannot check it
[03:07] <ChogyDan> kklimonda: nvidia card?
[03:08] <kklimonda> ChogyDan, yes - with nouveau driver
[03:09] <ChogyDan> kklimonda: there is some sort of issue with nvidia, (mentioned in topic)  but I don't know much further..
[03:10] <h00k> Yeah, I just ran into the nvidia-suspend issue on accident
[03:11] <kklimonda> looks like I get hit by some variation of the bug 499940
[03:12] <kklimonda> but resume is so slow I'm not sure if it's worth it
[03:22] <joebodo> when my laptop is idle for a couple of minutes - i have to unlock the screen - where are the settings to adjust this ?
[03:25] <ZykoticK9> joebodo, re:locking - check System / Preferences / Screensave - checkbox for lock screen at bottom
[03:26] <joebodo> ZykoticK9, thx - my screen saver menu item was not visible for some reason
[03:32] <bcurtiswx> the current kernel in VBox doesn't boot.. what's to add to the grub menu to get it to boot to the -13 kernel.. is is ACPID=off ?
[03:35] <arand> bcurtiswx: acpi=off... or use SVN/beta2 vbox according to Bug #510571 ..
[03:36] <bcurtiswx> arand> thx
[03:37] <arand> i think there's some serious SRUing to be done there..
[03:38] <bcurtiswx> idk if it will happen tho
[03:39] <bcurtiswx> anyone lose their mouse if they use guest additions on vbox?
[03:44] <ZykoticK9> bcurtiswx, see if this helps http://sites.google.com/site/lucidlynxdreams/how-tos/virtualbox-mouse-integration-in-alpha2
[03:44] <bcurtiswx> ty
[04:20] <bjorkintosh> ubuntu's frozen AGAIN!
[04:21] <bjorkintosh> it does this 6 times a day, easily.
[04:21] <bjorkintosh> and yes, i know it's ubuntu+1. but it doesn't have to be this silly.
[04:22] <bjorkintosh> i suspect it's always the same problem.
[04:23] <bjorkintosh> anyone else having problems with i915?
[04:25] <arand> bjorkintosh: Everyone? I've heard people grunt about it yes..
[04:25] <bjorkintosh> so it's a known issue with i915?
[04:26] <arand> All I've heard is complaints, since I'm not on intel I haven't paid much attention, there's probably a bug though, if one looks around a bit
[04:27] <ZykoticK9> bjorkintosh, lucid hasn't frozen on me once - totally different hw mind you
[04:27] <bjorkintosh> 6 or more times a day.
[04:27] <bjorkintosh> sometimes while actually using the machine.
[04:28] <bjorkintosh> but it's always X which freezes.
[04:28] <ZykoticK9> that's crazy
[04:28] <bjorkintosh> the rest of the machine is accessible via ssh.
[04:28] <ZykoticK9> mind me asking the gfx card?
[04:28] <bjorkintosh> i915
[04:28] <bjorkintosh> i'd never had a problem with it until very recently with lucid.
[04:56] <billybigrigger_> anyone here familiar with ifuse?
[04:56] <ZykoticK9> should bug that exist upstream (in Gnome) be reported again in Ubuntu/Lucid?  What if the upstream bug say Unconfirmed, does that change anything?
[05:24] <billybigrigger_> is anyone alive?
[05:26] <foxbuntu> billybigrigger, define alive?
[05:26] <foxbuntu> anyone else have issues with 2.6.32-13?
[05:26] <foxbuntu> I cant even boot it
[05:26] <foxbuntu> everything just dies and causes a reboot
[05:27] <billybigrigger_> i used to just boot into recovery mode
[05:27] <billybigrigger_> worked for me
[05:28] <billybigrigger_> i'm having dependency issues with ifuse
[05:28] <billybigrigger_> trying to connect my ipod touch to lucid, not working so well...installing ifuse from karmic repos doesn't seem to work
[05:29] <billybigrigger_> problems with libusbmuxd1 and usbmuxd
[05:29] <philip__> does the current build contain KDE 4.4 (not RC1)?
[05:29] <syn-ack> anyone know anything about the decision on bug 520288?
[05:31] <billybigrigger_> syn-ack, is that laptop specific?
[05:31] <syn-ack> I'd just like to know that it has/will be looked/assigned and taken seriously or what is all
[05:31] <syn-ack> billybigrigger: yes
[05:31] <billybigrigger_> i just tried mine, works ok here, running up todate lucid on and hp g61
[05:31] <syn-ack> hrm
[05:32] <syn-ack> I would certainly like to know what the hell is going on then
[05:33] <i_is_broke> dumb question i cant remember tho, is ssh installed by default?
[05:33] <billybigrigger_> definitely odd
[05:33] <billybigrigger_> i_is_broke, ssh client yes, server no
[05:33] <syn-ack> i_is_broke: the client
[05:33] <syn-ack> heh
[05:33] <i_is_broke> ok thank you billybigrigger
[05:34] <i_is_broke> ill have to add it then after i do the updates.
[05:35] <syn-ack> urg
[05:36] <syn-ack> I know this isnt hardware. >:|
[05:38] <i_is_broke> i havent had a issue with ubuntu lucid on any hardware yet, but of course i dont use ati either...
[05:39] <syn-ack> I don't use ATi either
[05:39] <syn-ack> this isnt a video issue
[05:39] <Linux-CLI> hi
[05:39] <Linux-CLI> How do I make the following command list in reverse order? - find "$PWD" -follow -type f | sed -e "s|.|File:\t|"
[05:41] <ZykoticK9> Linux-CLI, could you just append a pipe to "sort -r"?  if you don't get an answer here try repeating in #bash
[05:42] <Linux-CLI> ZykoticK9: Having trouble, unsure where to put that line
[05:45] <ZykoticK9> Linux-CLI, I'm not sure either, try asking in #bash, i bet they'll know ;)
[06:21] <DanaG> ugh, weird... I copied .kde dir from one computer to another... and ended up with TWO panels on top of each other!
[06:24] <vish> DanaG: are you on kubuntu?
[06:25] <DanaG> well, it's a base of ubuntu, with kubuntu-desktop installed on top.
[06:25] <vish> DanaG: can you confirm Bug 411760 ? [/me uses Ubuntu]
[06:26] <DanaG> weird...
[06:26] <DanaG> "Session active, idle not inhibited, suspend not inhibited, screen idle.  If you can see this text, your display server is broken and you should notify your distributor."
[06:26]  * vish not really sure whats going on there , but the poor OP has been quite patient ;)
[06:27] <vish> DanaG: you got that again?
[06:27] <vish> session idle*
[06:27] <vish> DanaG: i think chris just figured it out > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=609720
[06:27] <DanaG> It's different from before.
[06:28] <vish> DanaG: Bug 423694
[06:28] <DanaG> er, string is a bit different.
[06:28] <DanaG> yeah, that's the old one.
[06:28] <DanaG> new one says "idle not inhibited"
[06:28] <DanaG> and "suspend not inhibited"
[06:32] <DanaG> ugh, damn xorg devs.... giving me 3mm high letters because they thought it would be cool to LIE about screen size.
[06:33] <DanaG> http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23705
[06:37] <DanaG>      wip20091206~lucid~ppa1 0
[06:37] <DanaG>         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid/main Packages
[06:37] <DanaG> argh, how do I find out WHICH ppa a package comes from?
[06:56] <philip__> ok I'm going to take the plunge...update-manager -d here I come
[07:20] <Mike1> a late version of Cadsoft Eagle would be great in Ubuntu 10.04!
[07:20] <Mike1> though it’s closed source :-(
[07:31] <vish> !release
[07:31] <vish> !schedule
[08:52] <BUGabundo_remote> Bons Dias
[09:18] <l3on> Hi all... someone of you is able to upgrade this morning ??
[09:18] <Machtin> uhm, yes
[09:18] <edakiri> What pages link to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule ?
[09:20] <Machtin> pardon?
[09:23] <l3on> I'm receinving this:
[09:23] <l3on> Failed to fetch http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/protobuf/protobuf-compiler_2.2.0a-0.1ubuntu1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[09:23] <l3on> Failed to fetch http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/protobuf/python-protobuf_2.2.0a-0.1ubuntu1_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[09:23] <l3on> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[09:23] <l3on> using apt...
[09:23] <l3on> All is fine instead if I use aptitude
[09:24] <edakiri> I was wondering how a user should find the page other than in the topic of this channel.  It seems that it is scarcely findable.  It seems it is not linked in or linked in well in the wiki.
[09:25] <Machtin> l3on: maybe italy-servers are down
[09:26] <tsimpson> update your package list
[09:26] <tsimpson> "sudo apt-get update"
[09:28] <Machtin> edakiri: if any one cares about the release schedule, he'll probably google "lucid release schedule"
[09:28] <edakiri> I cared and had difficulty finding.
[09:29] <Machtin> http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=lucid+release+schedule&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 <- first result for me :o
[09:29] <l3on> Machtin: I repeat... aptitude upgrade works fine.
[09:30] <edakiri> If I had not known that it existed, i would have thought it did not exist because there is no link to it.  also I did not remember that it's name had "lucid", so that was not a search term for me.
[09:30] <Machtin> l3on: pardon
[09:30] <Machtin> edakiri: okay, you got a point
[09:32] <edakiri> In #moin they helped me do a search to find out what links to the page.  The 'what links here' could be part of the theme.  They noticed ubuntu has moin version 1.6 and debian 1.7.  current seems to be 1.9.
[09:34] <tsimpson> googleing for "ubuntu release schedule" should give you some hints, and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseSchedule will always point to the most recent
[09:38] <edakiri> useful to know.
[10:18] <dupondje> ok its official :)
[10:19] <dupondje> search plugins ARE broken :)
[10:19] <BUGabundo_remote> guud morning dupondje
[10:19] <dupondje> hii :)
[10:26] <bubulein> good morning
[10:27] <bubulein> i have problems with my wlan bt43xx i have collected some inforamtion at http://pastebin.org/90555  would be nice if someone can take a look. im unable to scan the network for a ap
[10:28] <gnomefreak> bubulein: what Ubuntu release
[10:28] <gnomefreak> ah nevermind
[10:28] <bubulein> gnomefreak: lucid
[10:28] <gnomefreak> bubulein: i saw
[10:29] <bubulein> gnomefreak: im remoteconnected to this box cause my friend has accessibility problems on the box, thats why we had to ubdate ( ora, speech dispatcher)
[10:30] <gnomefreak> bubulein: please dont use that pastebin please use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ the one you used always gives you a pop-up and most of the time you cant close windows without forcing it
[10:31]  * bubulein makes a notice
[10:32] <bubulein> http://paste.ubuntu.com/374614/
[10:34] <gnomefreak> bubulein: please file a bug. This looks like a packaging issue
[10:35] <bubulein> gnomefreak: i have used the same tute some days before but the harddrive crashed
[10:35] <bubulein> so we hat to reinstall the sys wvia webcam *G*
[10:36] <gnomefreak> bubulein: doesnt matter. i am just suggesting to file a bug if you would like it fixed
[10:36] <bubulein> ok thx
[10:36] <bubulein> gnomefreak: is my pasting enough info?
[10:38] <gnomefreak> bubulein: for now if they need more info than they will ask you to give it. im not sure what package it would fall under.
[10:38] <gnomefreak> if you know the package use ubuntu-bugs packagename  and it will add the needed info
[10:38] <bubulein> ok thank u gnomefreak for your help
[10:59] <Guest68860> hello, I've installed a grub 1 distorbution and I want to boot ubuntu Lucid. should I copy the section I want from grub.cfg?
[10:59] <Guest68860> or there is another steps?
[11:00] <marienz> I don't understand the question
[11:01] <marienz> Guest68860: you mean you installed grub 1 from the other distro over lucid's grub 2, and need to configure that grub 1 to boot lucid?
[11:01] <Guest68860> yes
[11:02] <marienz> Guest68860: then just add an entry using the root, image, initrd and parameters from lucid's /boot/grub/grub.cfg into your grub 1's config (the syntax is obviously different, so you'll have to adjust the new entry)
[11:03] <Guest68860> ok thanks, I'll try that
[11:04] <Guest68860> this other Distro was really annoying. it only detect windows :)
[11:04] <Guest68860> *detects
[11:04] <marienz> well, I'm not too surprised if things don't deal with grub 2 being installed yet
[11:21] <Zorael> Suddenly (sometime between today and three days ago), usbmuxd starts saying "Could not get device list: -1", and as a result ifuse can't find any devices.
[11:23] <Zorael> Just before the message it says "Initializing USB", "usb_init for linux / libusb 1.0", so I'm not sure whether it's actually usbmuxd's fault
[11:23] <Zorael> Full output: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/374644/
[11:24] <Zorael> Should I just file it against usbmuxd and hope someone more knowledgeable reassigns it?
[12:00] <maxb> Is anyone else seeing the "Session is idle" icon sitting in their notification area spuriously, on Lucid?
[12:01] <gnomefreak> anyone able to reproduce the following bug if so please comment on the bug?
[12:01] <gnomefreak> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/520918
[12:05] <Tm_T> hi
[12:16] <dupondje> gnomefreak: thats in synaptic ?
[12:17] <dupondje> hmz no
[12:17] <gnomefreak> dupondje: that is in gnome-terminal
[12:17] <dupondje> well I don't have that issue on gnome-terminal
[12:17] <dupondje> but had changing colors in the output of Synaptic
[12:17] <dupondje> which is a terminal also in fact :)
[12:18] <gnomefreak> you dont know what a terminal is? are you running Lucid?
[12:19] <dupondje> I know what terminal is dude :) but had changing colors on upgrade in synaptic also ... its not the same, but could be related
[12:19] <gnomefreak> dupondje: you use synaptic to upgrade and what changes color?
[12:25] <dupondje> gnomefreak: in synaptic you can give terminal output of the upgrade going on, well sometimes that terminal text changes color
[12:27] <gnomefreak> dupondje: it sounds like the same. please add your info to bug report and change status to confirmed
[12:28] <dupondje> will do it in some hours
[12:28] <dupondje> gtg now :)
[12:28] <dupondje> will see if I can reproduce and add screen of it
[12:58] <cjohnston> is anyone having trouble with lucid constantly freezing within a couple minutes of rebooting?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> cjohnston: does restarting after that help?
[12:59] <cjohnston> gnomefreak: for a couple minutess
[12:59] <cjohnston> and then it does it again
[12:59] <cjohnston> ive been on the computer for half hour and hard restarted atleast a dozen times
[13:01] <gnomefreak> cjohnston: ah ok not same problem. I suggest filing a bug using "ubuntu-bug linux" without the "  it would also be a good idea to copy/paste the output of top. Whe you feel it start happening
[13:01] <gnomefreak> s/Whe/When
[13:02] <cjohnston> theres no start.. its random, and just happens
[13:02] <cjohnston> i can be in the middle of typing in irc and it will freeze
[13:02] <gnomefreak> cjohnston: ok than forget the top output
[13:02] <gnomefreak> im betting you will see Xorg using most resources when in top
[13:03] <gnomefreak> cjohnston: disable everything in System/Preferences/start up applications. reboot and see if you can reproduce it than
[13:04] <cjohnston> ok
[13:04] <gnomefreak> you will than get a general Xorg but we can add that back afgterwards
[13:05] <gnomefreak> s/afgterwards/afterwards
[13:06] <cjohnston> k
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:11] <gnomefreak> hi BluesKaj
[13:17] <BluesKaj> just had X crash during the latest update/upgrade , but went into a tty and updated/upgraded again, then rebooted, then X restored
[13:18] <BluesKaj> hi gnomefreak
[13:18] <gnomefreak> i havent had X crash in Lucid yet
[13:19] <BluesKaj> well, no harm done so far ...lucid here too
[13:20] <BluesKaj> gnomefreak, could be a kde4.4 thing
[13:21]  * gnomefreak wont use KDE anymore at least not until they fix the freezing/hanging
[13:22] <BluesKaj> not getting that
[13:23] <BluesKaj> my understanding is it's an ati and intel graphics driver problem
[13:24] <Giles> Why does about:plugins not work anymore in epiphany?
[13:24] <Giles> I am sure i have seen it since the switch to webkit
[13:44] <coz_> hey guys  just found something a bit odd... when editing  .so an xml file for one of the plugins in compiz it removes the animation plugin...that's odd enough/..however when trying to upload the contents to either pastebin or speedyshare  I get   parsing error    http://www.picpaste.com/Screenshot_9.png
[13:46] <coz_> Amaranth,  did you make any changes to compiz that might result in this?
[14:40] <metricpiano> is there a way to change the CD automount to always be executable?
[14:59] <ripps> what is this? indicator-sound? Is this a new mixer applet?
[15:09] <ripps> Huh... it doesn't work. Maybe pulseaudio needs to be update first.
[15:22] <WaY_> hello
[15:22] <WaY_> what happends to the clock on kubuntu lucid in the kde bar? it's a bug or something?
[15:37] <MWisBest> Umm... anyone who heard about my troubles with the weird CPU monitor thing last night, it's fixed.
[15:38] <MWisBest> yofel: my problem got fixed.
[16:04] <xnox> I've downloaded desktop daily image yesterday. After installing it in VManager (kvm) on boot I get input/output error and a a kernel panic "attemped to kill init" and at this point boot hangs
[16:05] <xnox> my google-fu failed at finding reported bug / workarounds. Any suggestions?
[16:32]  * Blues-Man cheers
[17:33] <stone1343-40> hi, my question is about wi-fi on Lucid, that keeps stopping. it doesn't disconnect, just stops. I have to manually disconnect and re-connect, any suggestions?
[17:37] <stone1343-40> hi, my question is about wi-fi on Lucid, that keeps stopping. it doesn't disconnect, just stops. I have to manually disconnect and re-connect, any suggestions?
[17:37] <tgpraveen12> stone1343-40: probably best to file a bug on that
[17:37] <tgpraveen12> giving ur wifi card details at al
[17:37] <tgpraveen12> and all
[17:38] <stone1343-40> what package, what info can I give?
[17:38] <tgpraveen12> probably linux-kernel
[17:38] <tgpraveen12> give ur card name and details and since when it is happening/did it happen on karmic etc
[17:59] <dupondje> evening :)
[18:57] <metricpiano> recently installed programs with software center disappear from the app menu after reboot... any ideas?
[19:15] <zniavre> there is an alternative for volume control ?
[19:16] <metricpiano> lucid just updated the volume control... I like it better, is that what you're asking about?
[19:16] <zniavre> i do not like at all
[19:17] <zniavre> usualy im not using this notification applet
[19:17] <metricpiano> i saw an announcement about the new volume control, they said it had been an applet (?) or something before... maybe there is another applet you can put in it's place
[19:18] <metricpiano> sorry, not that helpful :)
[19:18] <ZykoticK9> metricpiano, did you remove Pulseaudio?
[19:18] <zniavre> no problems
[19:19] <metricpiano> no, the new volume control was part of update manager
[19:20] <ZykoticK9> metricpiano, just curious - i'm still seeing the old volume control - haven't rebooted (and it asked me too) since most recent updates - perhaps i should ;)
[19:20] <metricpiano> yeah, I read about it, updated and rebooted and it was there.  how that works IDK. :D
[19:21] <virtuald> i reset my panels and got two volume controls
[19:21] <zniavre> what was the name of the "old"one please ?
[19:22] <virtuald> i think it's gnome-volume-control-applet
[19:23] <zniavre> virtuald,  it was this one but it does not exists anymore
[19:23]  * zniavre s crying
[19:24] <virtuald> what do you meanm, they pulled it from the archive?
[19:24] <zniavre> it's not into synaptic anymore
[19:25]  * metricpiano is curious, "why do you hate the new one so much?
[19:25] <virtuald> i hate the new one because it moves around a lot
[19:25] <zniavre> im not using notification stuff first
[19:25] <virtuald> so i have to reset my panels every now and then. but you didn't ask me.
[19:26] <zniavre> it does not fit well my gnome-panel
[19:27] <metricpiano> oh, i'm just using stock panels and it's under the speaker icon as a menu, the old one was horrible under the speaker icon as mute was a separate menu
[19:27] <virtuald> if i open one of the program etc menus i can't move the mouse over the "new" menus and have them pop down without clicking again
[19:27] <virtuald> and the other way around.. it's not well integrated
[19:27] <zniavre> +1
[19:27] <zniavre> if you are not using empathy or evolution this applet is useless
[20:21] <tntc> WOW.  Is it just me or is almost everything way faster in 10.4 than in 9.10?
[20:22] <tntc> does that have to do with the kernel?
[20:22] <Tscheesy> tntc: KDE ?
[20:22] <tntc> Tscheesy: naw, Gnome.  Stuff like login, running applications
[20:22] <tntc> heck, even VMware workstation is running smoother.  Including the VM inside.
[20:25] <tntc> FFS, Win7 just gave it a 5.4 for 3d gaming performance.
[20:25] <tntc> it was a TWO before.
[20:29] <bullgard> What Empathy version (or release) is to be expected for Lucid?
[20:31] <ZykoticK9> !info empathy
[20:44] <bullgard> ZykoticK9: Thank you.  --  How can I figure out what has been changed compared with the curent Karmic version?
[20:45] <ZykoticK9> bullgard, i have no idea - read a change log somewhere.  good luck.
[20:46] <bullgard> ZykoticK9: Ok. Thank you.
[21:29] <DanaG> ieee80211_parse_info_param(): athros AP is exist
[21:29] <DanaG> nice English there.
[21:38] <SwedeMike> my 9.10 machine that has been dist-upgraded to 10.04 a few weeks back, today I had problem with kexec-tools not completing post-installation script (just hung there, waited 10 minutes). my alpha2 fresh install in a vbox didn't have this, neither my 8.10 install that has been dist-upgraded numerous times now to 10.04. I dpkg --remove:d kexec-tools and then everything was fine
[21:51] <bjsnider> DanaG, where was that function coming from?
[22:02] <BUGabundo> evening o/
[22:03] <arand> 'lo
[22:06] <BUGabundo> Amaranth: ping
[22:06] <BUGabundo> Amaranth: compiz scale plugin stop restoring windows after keyb shortk has been let go
[22:07] <SwedeMike> I want to apply some patches to the latest 10.04 kernel, I'm following the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile but when I try to do as stated there (has worked before) it says me kernel isn't clean and I need to run mrproper, but that kind of removes all the debian help stuff from the tree :P
[22:10] <SwedeMike> hm, seems "old fashioned debian way" still works though
[22:12] <maxb> I'm confused... DVD menus work in totem on my laptop.... what package am I missing on a fresh install to make them work?
[22:14] <arand> maxb: libdvdread + libcsssomething ?
[22:14] <bjsnider> at large, ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:15] <arand> that won't pull in libdvdcss2 though..
[22:15] <tntc> libdvdcss2 is for CCS scrambled dvds...
[22:15] <tntc> arand: maybe you're thinking of medibuntu?
[22:16] <bjsnider> are you sure it doesn't pull in libdvdcss2?
[22:16] <zniavre> is there a way to come back at old behaviour of rhythmbox for systray ?
[22:17] <rww> install libdvdread, then use the script that libdvdread installs to get libdvdcss. there's a wiki page on it somewhere, one sec
[22:17] <rww> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[22:18] <rww> The script pretty much just grabs the medibuntu package, I think, but if you're not using medibuntu for anything else, it's probably easier.
[22:18] <arand> Either rww:s suggestion or medibuntu, depends if you want the package to be locally installed or repo-installed..
[22:22] <maxb> I have libdvdcss2 installed from medibuntu, but it seems unhappy. I wonder if it's lucid-ready or not
[22:24] <tntc> maxb: dunn. let me test my install
[22:28] <maxb> Hrm... i have video.... but only after doing "Next chapter" lots to get from the DVD menu into the actual film
[22:30] <maxb> "libdvdnav: Language 'en' not found, using '��' instead
[22:43] <maxb> Hrm, looks like a regression in lucid
[23:03] <Bookman> I am trying to update but I get the following: E: Couldn't configure pre-depend virtuoso-opensource-6.0-bin for virtuoso-opensource-6.0, probably a dependency cycle.
[23:08] <Machtin> any bug known that makes it impossible to get back out of suspend to ram-mode?
[23:09] <ZykoticK9> Machtin, are you using nvidia?
[23:09] <Machtin> yep
[23:09] <ZykoticK9> Machtin, see channel topic
[23:09] <Machtin> pardon
[23:10] <Machtin> and thanks :)
[23:10] <ZykoticK9> Machtin, this channels topic includes "Nvidia users should avoid suspend/hibernate" I'm not sure why sorry.
[23:10] <Machtin> yup, read it.. that's enough info for me
[23:11] <Machtin> well.. then i'm off to bed and shutting down -h now! night ZykoticK9 :)
[23:12] <ZykoticK9> Machtin, take care
[23:26] <IngForigua> Hi
[23:27] <BUGabundo> hey IngForigua
[23:27] <IngForigua> Someone can paste the /etc/samba/smb.conf (i need the default pleas)
[23:28] <IngForigua> trhanks
[23:28] <IngForigua> hi BUGabundo  :D
[23:28] <BUGabundo> IngForigua: purge it, and reinstall?
[23:28] <IngForigua> BUGabundo: hmmmmm excelente idea
[23:29] <maxb> I believe there's a copy at /usr/share/samba/smb.conf
[23:29] <BUGabundo> also true
[23:29] <IngForigua> maxb: Thanks :D
[23:30] <maxb> Although some values from the debconf database get substituted into that when it is installed
[23:33] <Michalxo> hello!
[23:33] <Michalxo> "how stable" lucid is?
[23:33] <Michalxo> does it have as many bugs as karmic had?
[23:36] <BUGabundo> Michalxo: its not , nor it will ever be :p
[23:37] <ZykoticK9> Michalxo, perhaps i have been "lucky" but Lucid has been very stable on my system, does it have Bugs - obviously.
[23:40] <Michalxo> are you on 32 or 64b guys?
[23:40] <ZykoticK9> 64 for me
[23:40] <Michalxo> hm, sometimes 64 has less bugs then 32 :-)
[23:41] <BUGabundo> 64
[23:41] <BUGabundo> Michalxo: that's a lie
[23:41] <BUGabundo> wb hggdh
[23:42] <hggdh> hi BUGabundo
[23:42] <Michalxo> BUGabundo in general I know 32 is considered to be "better"
[23:43] <Michalxo> btw, is there any real usefulness of using 64 instead of 32? (considering u use less then 4GB of ram)
[23:44] <BUGabundo> I need *proofs* for that claim!
[23:45] <kklimonda> Michalxo, not even 4GB are a good reason to switch to 64bit anymore
[23:46] <Michalxo> BUGabundo less bugs in 32 in general? :-)
[23:46] <kklimonda> there are less bugs in 32bit for sure
[23:47] <Michalxo> so why the "hell" :-) is everyone preferring 64 over 32?
[23:47] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: don't tell me you consider PAE an _option_ ?
[23:47] <Michalxo> is it something like e-penis??
[23:47] <kklimonda> BUGabundo, I've never had any problem with it
[23:47] <Michalxo> I have more bits, I am better haha
[23:47] <BUGabundo> !language | Michalxo
[23:47] <Michalxo> BUGabundo you know what I mean :-)
[23:48] <kklimonda> BUGabundo, neither could I notice any performance issues
[23:48] <BUGabundo> didn't you read the benchmark kklimonda?
[23:48] <BUGabundo> shame on you
[23:48] <BUGabundo> :O
[23:48] <kklimonda> BUGabundo, the only benchmark that matters to me is my daily usage ;)
[23:49] <kklimonda> BUGabundo, I remember the main concern about PAE was hardware compatibility
[23:52] <kklimonda> actually I should probably install 64bit version just so I can use pbuilder for both architectures
[23:52] <kklimonda> maybe if I still remember about it when alpha3 is released I'll give it a try
[23:56] <BUGabundo> err
[23:56] <BUGabundo> A3 isn't out already?
[23:56]  * BUGabundo hates usb-creator
[23:57] <komputes> BUGabundo: working on it ;)
[23:57] <BUGabundo> komputes: I won't file bugs...
[23:57] <BUGabundo> don't want to double LP numbers in a single night
[23:57] <Michalxo> aplha 3 today??
[23:57] <komputes> BUGabundo: they are all filed as far as I have tested unless you found a new one, test me - whats the issue?
[23:58] <BUGabundo> komputes: but if you have a testing version , I'll take a stab
[23:58] <Michalxo> ah, 25th.. waay to go
[23:58] <BUGabundo> trying very hard to make a karmic 32 and 64 two kingston pendrives
[23:58] <BUGabundo> already formated them 2 tiems
[23:58] <BUGabundo> one from usb-creator, and one from gparted :(
[23:59] <BUGabundo> komputes: does: "doesn't work" stand for a issue? :p
[23:59] <BUGabundo> komputes: I'll happy run it in debug mode for you
[23:59] <BUGabundo> if you point me how
[23:59] <rww> BUGabundo, Michalxo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule