[07:24] <mebaran151> also
[07:25] <hayden> how can i tell if my dialup modem works (seeing that i havent got a dialup connection where i am)
[07:25] <bryan> call a friend
[07:25] <hayden> ?
[07:25] <DazeD||laptop> lol
[07:26] <bryan> (with the modem)
[07:26] <maximaus> hayden, you can at least see if linux recognizes the modem with "sudo pppconfig"
[07:26] <hayden> ok thats more like it
[07:26] <farruinn> wow.... e17 is awesome...
[07:27] <hayden> farruinn, have u got it running?
[07:27] <farruinn> hayden: yeah, just built it from cvs
[07:27] <farruinn> I was building/installing all the necessary libs this afternoon
[07:27] <blizah> whats a good bittorrent client to use in linxu?
[07:27] <blizah> the bittornado i got through synaptic is just ok
[07:28] <midgewa> is there anyone there who knows like... everything there is to know about installing ubuntu?
[07:28] <maximaus> blizah, I use Azureus, but it's quite heavy and needs Java. Nice client though.
[07:28] <zu22> how can i get ubuntu to use Chinese language for everything? (web fonts, system fonts, console, etc...)
[07:28] <zu22> i looked in languages but see no chinese option :(
[07:29] <blizah> yea i like azureus, would like one about like that but not so resource hungry
[07:30] <bryan> there's ABC, but doesn't look like it'
[07:30] <bryan> s still being maintained
[07:30] <zu22> hello?
[07:30] <midgewa> is there anyone there who knows like... everything there is to know about installing ubuntu?
[07:30] <midgewa> and lives in sydney
[07:30] <blizah> i wish i could help zu
[07:30] <blizah> bryan ill go look
[07:31] <jba> midgewa, spit the question out
[07:31] <blizah> ah abc is fine
[07:31] <blizah> does it support multiple downloads?
[07:32] <dazed> how do i check if my dcopserver is running
[07:32] <dazed> Konqueror keeps givin me an error about that
[07:33] <Pluk> dazed,  ps -aux |grep dcoperver ?
[07:33] <Pluk> dcopserver*
[07:34] <midgewa> well.. i have a fkn old pc and i wanna install ubuntu onto it.. i have never installed linux and yeah
[07:34] <midgewa> i burnt it to a cd and set the BIOS to boot from the cd
[07:34] <midgewa> but it just booted 98
[07:34] <midgewa> did i burn it wrong?
[07:34] <bryan> how did you burn it?
[07:35] <midgewa> well the download came in a rar file, so i unpacked that
[07:35] <midgewa> and burnt the folder to a cd
[07:35] <midgewa> thats how my mate did it for windows and that worked :S
[07:35] <mebaran151> Java anyone
[07:35] <bryan> umm
[07:35] <bryan> it didn't come as a iso?
[07:35] <midgewa> errr... no
[07:36] <Pluk> weird
[07:36] <midgewa> it came as "warty-release-intall-i386.rar
[07:37] <Pluk> must be windows xp in automagic rename mode
[07:37] <blizah> says abc is still in linux beta?
[07:37] <midgewa> then i unpacked that... and it was just a folder with heaps of stuff in it
[07:37] <blizah> beta work alright?
[07:37] <tuxJr_14> hi
[07:37] <midgewa> so am i burning it wrong?
[07:37] <bryan> just an idea
[07:37] <midgewa> do i need to download a different file/
[07:37] <dazed> sorry plek got kicked off: but it returned a bunch of numbers for root and a bunch of numbers for my user name
[07:37] <_4strO> i think midgewa is on a hidden reconnized file extension
[07:37] <Pluk> midgewa, rename the file to whatever.iso then burn it as an image
[07:37] <dazed> pluk*
[07:38] <midgewa> umm ok
[07:38] <midgewa> ill try that pluk
[07:38] <bryan> maybe you've got 'hide known file extensions" turned on if you're using XP
[07:38] <sihen> hello all
[07:38] <midgewa> so i then just try to boot off the CD?
[07:38] <bryan> and you installed winrar and set to to handle iso files
[07:38] <Pluk> indeed
[07:38] <sihen> can anyone possible tell me where i can get some nice x themes from for ubuntu
[07:39] <Pluk> sihen, check http://www.gnomelook.org/
[07:39] <bryan> sihen:   http://gnome-look.org/
[07:39] <Pluk> hahah
[07:39] <Pluk> lol
[07:39] <Kennyjb402> sihen: did you try www.gnome-look.org?
[07:39] <DazeD||laptop> pluk im still gettin that error
[07:40] <DazeD||laptop> please cehck dcopserver program is running
[07:40] <midgewa> ok im burning it again now, will check back when i try it
[07:40] <Pluk> you can check if its running with ps -aux |grep dcopserver
[07:40] <DazeD||laptop> i did
[07:40] <Pluk> but i really dont know anything about dcopserver though
[07:40] <DazeD||laptop> how do i tell if its running
[07:40] <DazeD||laptop> oh
[07:41] <sihen> going to take a look now
[07:41] <sihen> thanks guys
[07:41] <Kennyjb402> np
[07:45] <midgewa> it booted windows 98 again
[07:45] <midgewa> didnt even come up with an option for something else
[07:45] <midgewa> can i install it inside 98?
[07:49] <ells> does anyone know of a good tool or method to combine vob files to a dvd to watch on my home player
[08:02] <midgewa> noone helping?
[08:03] <blizah> will i be able to install a rpm file on ubuntu   (its bittorent 4.0.0
[08:03] <delltony> anyone here have a few mins to hell me setup proftpd ?
[08:04] <jeff_> hey guys how do i make a .iso file from a cd rom
[08:04] <bryan> blizah:
[08:04] <bryan> alien file.rpm
[08:04] <bryan> it'll make a .deb file
[08:05] <topyli> jeff_: mkisofs?
[08:05] <delltony> dd if=/dev/hdc of=mycd.iso  should do it
[08:05] <bryan> then dpkg -i file.deb
[08:05] <blizah> ah ok
[08:05] <jeff_> thx
[08:06] <topyli> oh yeah, dd :)
[08:07] <delltony> the double dds are nice ;)
[08:07] <viper12> evening all.  anyone else notice that trash applet doesn't always 'empty' even though it "IS" empty?
[08:07] <delltony> man this stinks i can't figure proftpd out for jack is there something for ftp server that foo's like me can figure out really fast
[08:08] <blizah> so to install BitTorrent-4.0.0-1.noarch.rpm   id do "sudo apt-get BitTorrent-4.0.0-1.noarch.rpm"
[08:08] <blizah> right?
[08:08] <bryan> no
[08:08] <jeff_> blizah you might want to use azerus's client
[08:09] <blizah> i would but a little to resource hungry
[08:09] <bryan> just download the rpm from bittorrent.com
[08:09] <blizah> used it in windows...
[08:09] <blizah> i like it a lot though
[08:09] <viper12> you also might want to stay away from 'rpms' in a deb install.
[08:09] <bryan> azureus is overkill
[08:09] <blizah> oh yea ima change it into a deb file...
[08:10] <whiprush> mako: hey what would be the best way to create a LoCo team for the US. I don't see a parent one for the US, any thoughts on how to best divide it up?
[08:10] <blizah> so i dont type "sudo apt-get bittorrent_4.0.0-2_all.deb"   ?
[08:11] <bryan> no
[08:11] <whiprush> sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[08:11] <elmaya> heya.. i got this error everytime i try tu upgrade the system
[08:11] <elmaya> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/ubuntu-artwork_0.2.18-1_all.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/gnome-background-properties', which is also in package gnome-backgrounds
[08:11] <bryan> did you download the rpm?
[08:11] <elmaya> ?
[08:11] <blizah> ah ok
[08:11] <mako> whiprush: us is kind of a big place..
[08:12] <bryan> after you download the rpm, open a terminal
[08:12] <mako> whiprush: i mean, i'd be down to having one for new york.. like that's it
[08:12] <bryan> type: alien BitTorrent-4.0.0-1.noarch.rpm
[08:12] <mako> it's bigger than many countries :)
[08:12] <mako> whiprush: lets talk tomorrow
[08:12] <whiprush> mako: yeah I was mulling on to name my area but not make some obtuse naming convention
[08:12] <whiprush> ok
[08:13] <mako> whiprush: i gotta crash.. i've been hacking for something 40 hours today
[08:13] <whiprush> heh
[08:13] <whiprush> nite
[08:14] <dead|shell> hey Zaphod_
[08:15] <dead|shell> alot of netsplits tonight
[08:15] <viper12> whoa
[08:15] <jeff_> how can i tell when dd has finished writing
[08:16] <topyli> jeff_: you just get your prompt back
[08:16] <jeff_> topyli, but it stoped reading from the cd rom drive
[08:16] <jeff_> yet no prompt
[08:17] <topyli> jeff_: hmm. failed perhaps?
[08:17] <jeff_> a yes :(
[08:17] <topyli> press enter and see if there's a prompt
[08:18] <jeff_> ill be back reboot time
[08:19] <marshall> anybody willing to help a newbie re: NDISwrapper please msg me
[08:22] <marshall> come on guys, hook me up :)
[08:24] <jjpmr52> hi everyone ...if there is someone?
[08:24] <nepali> ??
[08:24] <marshall> whats up
[08:24] <marshall> trying to get some help with ndiswrapper, anyone got a min?
[08:25] <factotum> just ask the question, maybe someone will answer
[08:26] <_4strO> jjpmr52> there are 324 people here
[08:26] <_4strO> ^^
[08:26] <jjpmr52> so i hope someone can help me or direct me on something
[08:27] <marshall> thanks factotum, basically i must get my wireless card to work or revert back to windows :( every howto says to install ndiswrapper using sunaptic package amnager but i dont have ndiswrapper as an option.  i've selected the universal repositories as someone suggested but still no dice.  how in the heck can i get ndiswrapper to show up as an option to install?
[08:27] <jjpmr52> what would be the best program to download music on Linux ?
[08:28] <elmaya> you could download ndiswrapper and install it by compiling too
[08:28] <snowblink> jjpmr52: ndiswrapper-utils
[08:28] <snowblink> sorry. marshall: ndiswrapper-utils
[08:29] <_4strO> jjpmr52> nicotine
[08:29] <factotum> marshall, check out the ubuntu unofficial how-to, there is a section about adding apt rep's. They will probably hold what you need
[08:30] <snowblink> factotum: ndiswrapper is in main
[08:30] <jjpmr52> thanks for the tip ....4stro
[08:30] <blizah> whats the difference between "removal"  and "complete removal" in synaptic
[08:30] <highvoltage> Hi. I'm trying to compile a kernel, but when I'm booting it, I get a kernel panic: VFS not syncing. Anyone have any ideas what I forgot to put in there? I'm not using an initrd so I disabled it in the grub line.
[08:30] <blizah> does complete take the package off my list of possible packages to install?
[08:30] <_4strO> u(re welcome
[08:30] <_4strO> ave to go work
[08:30] <_4strO> cu
[08:30] <danny666> k3b won't burn iso file "it seems to be no iso"
[08:30] <factotum> snowblink, ah alright
[08:31] <blizah> ?
[08:31] <marshall> thanks but i'm really a newbie at this.  can someone just point me to an exact document or somethign to simply get ndiswrapper and utils to show up in synaptic?  i've been reading howtos and trying to install it manually for 2 days
[08:36] <marshall> it's really a shame that i can't seem to find a linux distro that gets wireless working out of the box
[08:37] <Burgundavia> marshall: the issue is that most wireless card makers won't support open source drivers
[08:39] <marshall> ok well i guess no one can help...thanks anyways. i guess i'll give it one or two more shots but if it ain't gonna work i gotta get back to work using windows
[08:40] <factotum> marshall, sorry I couldnt help more, at least your still trying. Its more than alot of people do which is awsome
[08:41] <factotum> marshall: just for the heck of it, read this:   http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[08:42] <marshall> well factotum, i'll tell you i've been trying to get off of windows for 5 years now but i always hit some snag.  then i was introduced to ubuntu and it looked like it was usable.  i like to think linux is ready for the desktop but i'm really not convinced it is.  i'm no genius but i can use a computer and im willing to experiment, but if in 3 days, 5 fresh installs, numerous forum posts and irc help i still cant even get my wireless to work, it's just not
[08:43] <HrdwrBoB> marshall: what wireless card do you have
[08:43] <factotum> ouch, I'm going on 3 years with a linux desktop and I know, if it doesnt give you grey hairs, they willjust start falling out
[08:44] <marshall> i have a netgear ma521 and a 3com 3crwe62092b, i dont care which works, i just need one to work
[08:44] <blizah> if ive just installed ubuntu do i need any type of virus protection or firewall?
[08:45] <blizah> heh as you can tell im coming from windows :D
[08:45] <marshall> factotum: i think it's fun and interesting to learn and play around and have the control linux provides but that's AFTER you get your basic stuff to work.  fighting to get your basic hardware to work is making me think windows aint so bad heh
[08:45] <topyli> marshall: you just need to get some decent hardware that works well with linux :)
[08:45] <HrdwrBoB> marshall: that isn't linux' fault
[08:46] <topyli> marshall: less the laptop to your worst enemy and get another one =)
[08:46] <marshall> topyli: hardware came before software, obviously i can't go out and buy all new hardware
[08:46] <topyli> sell, not less :o
[08:47] <blizah> yes/no?
[08:47] <topyli> marshall: i used to have difficult hardware when i switched from windows. later on, i've learned to build compatible boxen
[08:47] <marshall> topyli: perhaps but i have an ibm thinkpad which i love.  i will always use a thinkpad
[08:47] <penjuin> hello all
[08:48] <marshall> unless lenovo f*cks it up
[08:48] <marshall> heh
[08:48] <topyli> marshall: fair enough
[08:48] <HrdwrBoB> marshall: those cards are pcmcia
[08:48] <marshall> hrdwrbob: correct
[08:48] <HrdwrBoB> so, not in fact part of your computer
[08:49] <HrdwrBoB> everything else should work
[08:49] <marshall> correct
[08:49] <marshall> well when i boot i do get an error about modprobe fatal error but i dont know about that yet
[08:49] <marshall> that's off a fresh instlal
[08:49] <marshall> everythign else seems to be fine
[08:50] <HrdwrBoB> marshall: that's actually not an error, that should be supressed, you can ignore it
[08:50] <marshall> ok why does that error happen?
[08:50] <HrdwrBoB> it tries to load some drivers for stuff your hardware doesn't support
[08:50] <HrdwrBoB> (hotplug pci)
[08:50] <topyli> marshall: i seem to remember a colleague has a thinkpad, with fedora running ok. if i remember correctly, then any linux should work on it
[08:50] <marshall> ah i c
[08:51] <blizah> so do i need any type of firewall/anti-virus for linux?
[08:51] <HrdwrBoB> blizah: no
[08:51] <HrdwrBoB> not as suck
[08:51] <HrdwrBoB> such
[08:51] <blizah> not even firewall?
[08:51] <marshall> topyli: the linux isn't the problem.  it seems if i can get ndiswrapper installed i can use my windows .inf driver and get the wireless working
[08:51] <blizah> cool
[08:51] <HrdwrBoB> marshall: I don't mean to be rude, but would it be possible to swap or exchange your cards for other cards?
[08:51] <marshall> but all the howto's say "instazll ndiswrapper using synaptec" but i dont have it there
[08:51] <HrdwrBoB> marshall: apparently even with ndiswrapper they're not that good, but we can help you with ndisweapper
[08:51] <HrdwrBoB> wrapper
[08:51] <factotum> blizah, or if you want, get an old 486 and build your own firewall/router/server/whatever if you get bored
[08:52] <marshall> hrdwrbob: not rude, but i have 2 here, both brand names, should be able to get one of them working
[08:52] <topyli> blizah: if you want to run services locally (hide them from the internet), you can either use a firewall or tcp-wrappers
[08:52] <HrdwrBoB> marshall: neither of them are supported, however, there are many cards that are full supported
[08:52] <HrdwrBoB> but as long as you have the drivers there
[08:52] <HrdwrBoB> we can install ndiswrapper now for you
[08:52] <HrdwrBoB> you've got the laptop in ubuntu now and it's plugged into the net?
[08:53] <marshall> when you say supported, do you mean immediately after a fresh install of linux it will work out of the box?
[08:53] <blizah> topyli services locally mean like having an ftp?
[08:53] <HrdwrBoB> yes
[08:53] <marshall> i have the laptop in ubunto but it's not on the net.  i have one ethernet cable and i'm using it on this machine
[08:53] <blizah> hrdwr was that a yes at me?
[08:53] <blizah> ah dont think so
[08:53] <marshall> is there a list of supported cards?
[08:53] <HrdwrBoB> yes, hangon
[08:54] <topyli> blizah: yes, like a development web server that serves pages only to localhost. or an intranet hidden from the internet
[08:54] <topyli> blizah: like i run mysql and apache on this box but i hide them from the outside world
[08:55] <shock> I hope so much that hoary will be rocksolid by the time of release.
[08:55] <shock> right now evolution keeps crashing on me :/
[08:56] <HrdwrBoB> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[08:56] <shock> and the memmory usage of some apps is.... bizare!
[08:56] <penjuin> hi, im thinking of using ubuntu for my server...
[08:56] <marshall> thanks, i'll have a look.  maybe when i have some money i'll buy a nother wireless card but i think i'm just gonna go back to windows for now.
[08:56] <penjuin> does it hav all the libs for openxchange?
[08:56] <shock> got ubuntu on my router/fileserver here works fine
[08:56] <topyli> shock: the "preview" is due today. are you saying i shouldn't upgrade?
[08:56] <marshall> i made a ghost image so i can just copy it back
[08:56] <penjuin> i kinda like it
[08:57] <shock> I would =)
[08:57] <HrdwrBoB> marshall: sure? if you have the drivers and the install CD handy we can help you install ndiswrapper
[08:57] <shock> but i like to be a tester
[08:57] <penjuin> :P
[08:57] <penjuin> ye
[08:57] <marshall> i have the ubuntu cd and my drivers but no internet access on the laptop.  will it work to install ndiswrapper?
[08:57] <penjuin> so is it good for that kind of thing?
[08:57] <shock> and atually i think evolutions hickups might be related to some incidents I had, using it during its unstable phase
[08:57] <penjuin> ive got a k6 128mb ram
[08:58] <penjuin> its just a local server
[08:58] <penjuin> and slackware just doesnt cut it
[08:58] <topyli> shock: i ran hoary earlier in the development, and evolution was seriously broken most of the time
[08:58] <shock> too bad you cant reset evolution completely to default settings without loosing your gnome-settings
[08:58] <penjuin> well i prob wont use X
[08:59] <penjuin> and about the cd shipping
[08:59] <penjuin> wats the deal with live cds
[08:59] <shock> topyli - i am running hoary aver since it was available "broken" is a rather mild description for what the evo package was :P
[08:59] <Seq> i've been using hoary for a while and never had any real issues with evolution that I can think of
[08:59] <HrdwrBoB> marshall: yes
[08:59] <topyli> shock: needs a little love that's all :)
[08:59] <shock> seq - lucker!
[08:59] <shock> indeed
[08:59] <penjuin> anyone?
[09:00] <penjuin> whats the go with livecds
[09:00] <penjuin> when u ship them
[09:00] <shock> well u can TEST how well your computer works with ubuntu
[09:00] <penjuin> no
[09:00] <shock> without having to install anything
[09:00] <penjuin> i mean
[09:00] <penjuin> that i want to install, but have many friends that want the livecds
[09:01] <sihen> ello all
[09:01] <penjuin> so is there a way to get just live cds?
[09:01] <shock> maybe if you ask them
[09:01] <sihen> please give me that site address for themes again, sorry i got disconnected
[09:01] <marshall> hrdwrbob: ok great, i sent you a /msg
[09:01] <penjuin> ye ok
[09:01] <penjuin> im off guyz
[09:01] <shock> sihen - gnome?
[09:01] <penjuin> cya all
[09:01] <shock> art.gnome.org?
[09:01] <shock> gnome-look.org?
[09:02] <sihen> shock,  ye
[09:02] <sihen> ta
[09:04] <blizah> topyli, just outta curiousity what firewall should i use under ubuntu
[09:04] <blizah> not sure if i need one
[09:04] <blizah> i do run an ftp occasionaly
[09:04] <sihen> and could someone possible help me get my other hd mounted
[09:06] <TomAraya> I guess trying to go to Hoary was a bad idea. :P anyway, I've reformatted now (X wouldn't start, wouldn't accept the root password anymore) but now when I try to boot back into Windows to get NDISWrapper as it's on the desktop, I get an error message.
[09:06] <blizah> i get a message at boot that says pnp bios failure blablalaal
[09:06] <TomAraya> I've reinstalled Warty.
[09:06] <blizah> nothing bad is happening b/c of it
[09:07] <blizah> but the message doesnt sound like somethign i want to have
[09:07] <TomAraya> So now I can't boot back into Windows, was wondering if I could do something to the grub file .. try and edit it and see if I could fix it somehow.
[09:08] <Burgundavia> TomAraya: what sort of error message?
[09:10] <KarLiNha_-> oi pessoas
[09:10] <TomAraya> Burgundavia: I'll go write it down. brb
[09:10] <topyli> blizah: the firewall is in the kernel. i use firestarter to set it up
[09:18] <TomAraya> root (hd0,0)
[09:18] <TomAraya> filesystem type
[09:18] <schasi> shock: Did you learn?
[09:18] <TomAraya> unknown, partion type 0x7
[09:18] <TomAraya> save default
[09:18] <shock> the past 4 weeks
[09:18] <TomAraya> makeactive
[09:18] <shock> did nothing else
[09:18] <TomAraya> chainloader +1
[09:18] <schasi> TomAraya: You really keep trying with Linux don't you?
[09:18] <schasi> shock: Could you say that you are well preapared?
[09:18] <shock> havent seen my gf in this time but for one weekend
[09:18] <KarLiNha_-> they alguem wants to talk? I am of Brazil
[09:18] <shock> hmmm
[09:18] <schasi> Or do you depend on luck?
[09:19] <shock> its like a pretty nasty topic, but yes I am
[09:19] <TomAraya> schasi: Ouch.
[09:19] <schasi> Have that all the time ;-)
[09:19] <shock> only problem - anything below B+ is worth nothing @ bremen university
[09:19] <shock> :/
[09:19] <schasi> Abitur Vorklausur Mathe 1 pkt oder so
[09:19] <TomAraya> Am I looking at another reformat? Anything I could try with Grub?
[09:20] <shock> < schasi> Or do you depend on luck? <--- believing that one is not dependent on luck would be ... f***ing st*pid
[09:20] <shock> ;)
[09:20] <shock> aua @ 1 punkt
[09:20] <shock> ;)
[09:20] <schasi> shock: But there are things you can do to make it more likely for you to pass
[09:20] <schasi> Like being good and learning
[09:20] <shock> yeah - sleep with my prof :P
[09:21] <shock> she's a hottie *g*
[09:21] <schasi> Thats not exactly what i meant
[09:21] <shock> }:)
[09:21] <schasi> she? well i dont think she would sleep with you. but if she does, go for it
[09:22] <shock> hrhr
[09:22] <schasi> s/does/did/ or so
[09:22] <shock> i think my gf would strongly object to that  strategy
[09:22] <schasi> ;-)
[09:22] <shock> :)
[09:23] <shock> oh well... if its a c it'll still be a passed test and I still have time to get a better one
[09:23] <TomAraya> anyone have any idea?
[09:23] <shock> *sigh*
[09:23] <schasi> I think she would understand that it is for her future as well
[09:23] <schasi> g2go, l8er ppl
[09:23] <shock> cu
[09:23] <shock> TomAraya - erm
[09:24] <schasi> shock: gl&hf
[09:24] <shock> you ubuntu grub conf should have an example in it
[09:24] <shock> thx
[09:26] <TomAraya> Yeah, the file is proper.
[09:26] <TomAraya> menu.lst looks proper.
[09:27] <shock> so... what happens if you want to boot into windows?
 root (hd0,0)
 filesystem type
 shock: Did you learn?
 unknown, partion type 0x7
 save default
 the past 4 weeks
 makeactive
 did nothing else
 chainloader +1
[09:29] <shock> http://ubuntuguide.org/index.html <-- lkook for the "how to add windows to your grub"
[09:29] <shock> stuff
[09:29] <TomAraya> ... right
[09:30] <KarLiNha_-> somebody has msn to messenger?
[09:30] <shock> as long as you actually do have you windows on hd(0,0) you are good to go
[09:30] <shock> ok - i need to get ready to go to my exam
[09:30] <TomAraya> Of course it is.. that's what I said.
[09:30] <shock> ;)
[09:30] <KarLiNha_-> somebody has msn to messenger?
[09:31] <shock> msn? i have an msn account
[09:31] <shock> running it in gaim
[09:31] <shock> no probs at all
[09:31] <topyli> gaim works
[09:31] <shock> gaim uses heaps of memory however :(
[09:31] <TomAraya> Anyone have any ideas of what I can try?
[09:31] <shock> dunnno why
[09:31] <GNAM> hi
[09:32] <GNAM> what's the difference between a fortran library SHARED version / STATIC version?
[09:32] <topyli> shock: shows 39M here. i suppose most of it is cache and not real
[09:33] <GNAM> shall I install lapack3 (shared version) or lapack3-dev (static version) ?
[09:33] <topyli> GNAM: if you have the libraries it depends on, use them. if you don't, use the static version
[09:34] <Myrtti> oh btw, if someone else has had problems with XMMS not starting up properly, my problem was that libmikmod or smthn like that wasn't installed
[09:34] <Myrtti> noticed it when I finally realized that trying to start it up from terminal might give some hints on the problem
[09:35] <blizah> gaim uses lots of memory?
[09:35] <blizah> weird
[09:35] <Myrtti> try bitlbee
[09:36] <topyli> Myrtti: bitlbee is very cool if you like your irc client. makes you forget you're using them evil messengers :)
[09:36] <shock> < blizah> gaim uses lots of memory? - indeed - after running for 2 or three days its up to 120 megs
[09:37] <Myrtti> topyli: and is transportable everywhere
[09:37] <Myrtti> and if you're hooked on irc, gets better attention than gaim
[09:37] <shock> for irc nothing beats irssi :P
[09:38] <topyli> yes. console-friendly so you can just ssh home and attach a screen to your forever running irs
[09:38] <topyli> si
[09:38] <shock> after some customisation
[09:38] <shock> need to run now
[09:38] <shock> wish me luck
[09:38] <shock> ;)
[09:41] <kresten> Hi. I'm about to install ubuntu later today, but I'm not sure if my wireless network card is supported. Does any of you know where to check this?
[09:42] <highvoltage> kresten: what kind of network card is it?
[09:43] <kresten> intel 2100
[09:43] <highvoltage> yep
[09:43] <highvoltage> is it a centrino laptop?
[09:43] <kresten> Yes
[09:43] <highvoltage> ubuntu detects it automatically on startup
[09:43] <kresten> IBM R51
[09:43] <highvoltage> I have a thinkpad t41 and it works 100%
[09:43] <kresten> It didn't last time I installed it...
[09:44] <highvoltage> weird. mine popped up a 'window' asking for network key, ssid, etc, i filled it in and it worked
[09:44] <T5> hile__, can you tell me how set up a dhcp timeout? i read man interfaces but there is no clue of how this is to be done
[09:45] <T5> sorry hile this was just meant to be "hi"
[09:45] <kresten> Maybe it's because i wasn't connected to the Internet...
[09:45] <kresten> Though my router was running...
[09:46] <T5> highvoltage, what program are you speaking about?
[09:47] <kresten> Any ideas? Oh, and by the way... Be gentle I'm new to linux...
[09:48] <highvoltage> T5: the ubuntu installer
[09:49] <T5> ah ok, i thought it would be netapplet or network manager
[09:49] <MrKeuner> hi, I can successfully use the nv driver on my widescreen with a resolution of 1280x800. However, when I run when I run nvidia driver, xorg starts on the left handside of the screen leaving a blank space on the right. I remember some kernel module parameters to use while modprobing the nvidia module. Does anybody use that?
[09:53] <hile__> T5: if you are using xchat, set the 'automatic nickname completion' off from input box preferences so it does do it
[09:53] <hile__> it's really stupid default preference, IMHO
[09:54] <hile__> ... you still can complete with <TAB>  anyway
[09:54] <hile__> AFAIK, I use irssi in screen  so can't remember for sure ;)
[09:55] <thoreauputic> hile__: yes, turning off autocmplete still allows tab complete in xchat
[09:55] <pepsi> is ther any way i can add a submenu to the Applications menu?
[09:55] <T5> in fact i pressed tab ;) so it was my fault...
[09:55] <T5> i apologize
[09:56] <hile__> no problem ;)
[09:57] <hile__> hmm, lost my nick in reconnects
[10:00] <topyli> the worst thing in gaim is you can't turn off part/join server messages
[10:02] <Myrtti> I couldn't configure the damn thing to pop out the incoming messages window on top
[10:02] <the_1> hi everyone, how's it going today, all is fine? ;)
[10:02] <Myrtti> that's why I was desperate of finding a better solution to connect to icq/msn
[10:02] <Myrtti> and bitlbee was godsent
[10:03] <topyli> yep
[10:04] <the_1> I have a question..if I select SERVER when I install UBUNTU,is it the same like installing debian with base-system?
[10:04] <topyli> i should setup bitlbee again, it's too weird to need X for irc and other stuff
[10:04] <the_1> anyone?
[10:05] <andreas> the1: No - you get the full system. It just updates during install
[10:05] <topyli> the_1: i guess it is
[10:05] <Myrtti> andreas: a netinstall, in other words?
[10:05] <the_1> you see,I convinced a friend to try ubuntu, and he's a debian user usually
[10:06] <the_1> andreas: thanks
[10:06] <andreas> myrti: Well... Install fom cd - update by internet
[10:06] <Myrtti> andreas: if I only had known that when I installed :-/
[10:07] <andreas> the1: *smile* Word of advice... It atkes jsut as long without the update as with
[10:07] <soulhack> i have some troubles starting up, GRUB wont give me the option to load either XP or Ubuntu, it says that GRUB 1.5 LOADS then i find myself getting booted into Ubuntu.
[10:07] <andreas> soulhack: Did you manually add XP during install?
[10:08] <blizah> where is the list of programs that run at startup kept
[10:08] <soulhack> XP was installed prior to Ubuntu installation
[10:08] <jesuel> woot, Finally. I have my laptop setup completely with all my software. Even got gnome setup the way i like :)
[10:08] <andreas> soulhack: But did you add it to GRUB?
[10:08] <soulhack> hmm, not manually
[10:08] <Myrtti> blizah: startup of what
[10:08] <andreas> soulhack: There` s the mistake
[10:08] <Myrtti> goddammit
[10:09] <the_1> anyone using ubuntu and a wireless connection? possibly encrypted with WPA?
[10:09] <jesuel> the_1: I am using wireless on hoary with WEP @ home and WPA @ school
[10:09] <soulhack> andreas, but it is in the menu.lst
[10:10] <andreas> soulhack: Unless you manually add XP to GRUB it deletes the MBR
[10:11] <jesuel> *grin* screenshot of my little gnomelaptop -  http://members.dslextreme.com/users/sjgerman/images/screenie.png
[10:11] <thoreauputic> andreas: umm... my warty install added XP, Ubuntu and Debian to grub without a problem
[10:11] <jesuel> the_1: What kinda problems are you having?
[10:11] <soulhack> andreas, XP is set to load from the right HD in menu.lst so there\s nothing i can change there.
[10:12] <the_1> jesuel: I installed wpa_supplicant and managed to connect once on my wpa-enabled home network, but never again since then, I tried different settings, disabling and enabling the network interface every time, and one other thing is that the network doesn't enable itself automatically during boot
[10:12] <andreas> therou: It did? Weird.. I`ve always been told that the manual way is the only way
[10:13] <jesuel> Hrm, Weird. Lets see, my network will automatically connect on bootup at home here, using wep like I said, When I connect at school, I actually have to go in and switch profiles.
[10:13] <thoreauputic> it recognised that there were 3 bootable OS's and they are all there on the grub bootup screen
[10:13] <andreas> jesuel: KDE.... You ought to know better...
[10:13] <jesuel> andreas: thats not kde, thats gnome.
[10:13] <wtd> Have a Hoary oddity.  The System menu pops up fine for a split second, then switches to an empty menu.
[10:14] <the_1> jesuel: btw, in the network interface dialog for wireless it stll shows WPE and not WPA, do you know if there is some other applet for wireless conectivity for ubuntu, something more complete?
[10:14] <soulhack> yes, because, when i booted for the first time grub was fine. I did download a few fixes from synaptic pckg mngr and when i rebooted it went boyah..
[10:14] <jesuel> the_1: Not that ive seen, im using hoary.
[10:14] <andreas> thero: Hmm.... I`m impressed if it`s true but why can soulhack then not get it to work?
[10:15] <calamari> hi
[10:15] <andreas> hi
[10:15] <jesuel> the_1: Course im actually pretty new to ubuntu + hoary in general. I just basically got my laptop working with it within the last couple days. I have ran ubuntu as a cli server for a few months.
[10:15] <thoreauputic> sounds like it *was* working, but got broken on upgrade
[10:15] <soulhack> thoreauputic, any idea on how to fix that easily?
[10:16] <jesuel> andreas: Why you think I was using KDE anyhow?
[10:16] <andreas> jesuel: Wasn`t there a little KDE app in the bottom right corner?
[10:16] <thoreauputic> soulhack: I assume you checked that GRUB menu.lst is pointing to the right places ? (partitions)
[10:17] <the_1> jesuel: but how is your wireless card setup? youput the wpa password in the wep box, because it doesn't actually show that it is wpa compatible, even after installing wpa_supplicant, right?
[10:17] <jesuel> andreas: uhm not that I know of, bottom right hand corner is clock, on the right hand pane there is xscreensaverlock + window selector + vdesktop selector.
[10:18] <jesuel> the_1: Thats correct
[10:18] <andreas> jesuel: Please post URL once again
[10:18] <jesuel> http://members.dslextreme.com/users/sjgerman/images/screenie.png
[10:18] <wtd> So, any ideas as to why my System menu is acting oddly?
[10:19] <the_1> jesuel: and you have DHCP server running on your router, or you are using static IPs?
[10:19] <calamari> Do I need the samba package installed in order to browse Windows shares, or just samba-common ?
[10:19] <andreas> jesuel: I see.... The GNOME menu... I htought the battery indicator was KDE
[10:19] <soulhack> thoreauputic, yes, checked now, I am 100% new to linux but I think it is properly configured
[10:20] <jesuel> the_1: Yup dhcpd on m0n0wall firewall that connects to the net.
[10:20] <topyli> jesuel: you sure have a blue desktop dude :)
[10:20] <jesuel> andreas: oh yeah that battery monitor does look like the kde one.
[10:20] <jesuel> topyli: I love blue.
[10:21] <topyli> calamari: you need smbclient
[10:21] <Smeven> hi
[10:21] <Smeven> i am trying to get my card reader on my laptop going
[10:21] <Smeven> no luck yet
[10:22] <calamari> thanks.. looks like I had the windows machine misconfigured.. working now :)
[10:22] <Smeven> what modules do i need to  load to have it work?
[10:22] <soulhack> thoreauputic, the fact that i have double sets of ubuntu loads under End Default Options, does that matter?
[10:22] <Smeven> 4-in-1 card reader...
[10:22] <jesuel> topyli: laptop has a polished aluminum case thats been sprayed in cobalt blue then clearcoat x4. All the led's are blue. All the lights are blue. and the keyboard is backlit with blue led's
[10:22] <the_1> jesuel: I guess my only option is to reinstall hoary and hope it does all that it won't do now, like enabling the network interface at boot time, logging in automatically to the network, work with wpa, etc..
[10:22] <thoreauputic> soulhack: double sets? alternative kernels or what?
[10:22] <topyli> jesuel: you like blue. ok, i believe you =)
[10:23] <jesuel> topyli: :)
[10:23] <Smeven> do you have blue balls?
[10:23] <jesuel> the_1: Hrmm, thinkin.
[10:23] <jesuel> Smeven: Nope. :)
[10:23] <soulhack> thoreauputic, well, first i have the standard titlerootkernelinitred savedefault and boot. Then the recovery mode. Then they are both stated again.
[10:24] <soulhack> thoreauputic, when i check a sample of the menu.lst it\s only listed one of each, i have two. does this make any sense?
[10:24] <thoreauputic> soulhack: sounds odd
[10:24] <Smeven> any ideas on the memory card problem?
[10:24] <soulhack> should i remove the duplets?
[10:24] <soulhack> it is identical
[10:24] <topyli> hrmpf. i got a form to fill from work. it's an rtf document but doesn't work in openoffice. i was reduced to a windows user again for a moment :(
[10:25] <jesuel> topyli: ew. Evil work.
[10:25] <soulhack> oh, wait, theres a difference. one says> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-<IP_ADDRESS>-5-386 root=/dev/sda3 ro single the other says <IP_ADDRESS>-3-386
[10:25] <thoreauputic> soulhack: well, back up menu.lst to menu.lst.bak or similar, then edit them out - but make sure you have another way to boot if it all goes pear-shaped
[10:26] <thoreauputic> soulhack: that's what I thought - other kernels
[10:26] <soulhack> thoreauputic, thats from previous to the update, should be safe to remove, right?
[10:26] <topyli> jesuel: all is well now, i've shut down the windows box :)
[10:27] <thoreauputic> soulhack: no need to - and having a backup kernel can be useful
[10:27] <thoreauputic> soulhack: if a new kernal causes "issues"
[10:27] <thoreauputic> *kernel
[10:27] <Nermal> yay for gnome 2.10 being in hoary :D
[10:27] <topyli> it's all in now?
[10:28] <Nermal> I think so
[10:28] <soulhack> thoreauputic, okay, well, then, i am lost again. ill try to reboot and see if the problem is still there.
[10:28] <Nermal> well.. I just did and update and dist-upgrade is pulling in all the gnome 2.10 packages
[10:29] <marshall> hi guys, before i was in here and i've been trying to get my wlan working.  i finally got ndiswrapper installed and when i do "ndiswrapper -l" it says my driver is installed and the hardware present.  now when i go to computer -> networking and try to add the wireless network card it doesnt seem to be available to add.  anyone know what i need to do? i feel i'm so close :)
[10:30] <topyli> Nermal: strange though. the gnome hackers still seem to be "working on" the release process. :) i guess the software itself is there though
[10:31] <Smeven> ubuntu wont let me install hwdb-client
[10:31] <Nermal> aye..
[10:31] <Nermal> right.. shutting down X for this upgrade :)
[10:31] <Smeven> no candidate
[10:32] <Burgundavia> marshall: go to the command line and type ifconfig
[10:32] <soulhack> works!
[10:33] <marshall> burgundavia: has my ethernet and lo but no wlan
[10:33] <Burgundavia> marshall: look at dmesg and see you if get anything there when you plug it in
[10:34] <jesuel> marshall: modprobe ndiswrapper
[10:34] <marshall> burgundavia: what am i looking for, i'm a newbie and there's a lot of stuff here :)
[10:34] <jesuel> marshall: do a sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[10:35] <marshall> jesuel: ok done now what?
[10:35] <jesuel> marshall: ok, dmesg | grep ndiswrapper
[10:35] <marshall> jesuel: ok now what :)  looks liek it recognizes the wlan there
[10:35] <jesuel> goody
[10:36] <jesuel> now you can go in and configure it
[10:36] <jesuel> sudo iwlist wlan0 scan
[10:38] <kresten> Marshall: Let me know if it works. I'm installing Ubuntu later today and have experienced the same problem earlier...
[10:39] <jesuel> kresten: that should work
[10:39] <jesuel> kresten: I fooled around enough with my wireless to get it to work @ home / school / work with 3 different setups
[10:40] <marshall> well i'm trying to activate it but it's freezing, i'm letting it sit for a minute and "think"
[10:40] <kresten> Ok. Thanks. I'm new to linux, but I assume those things you wrote earlier should be typed at the command prompt, rigth?
[10:40] <marshall> kresten: it's a mighty pain in the ass, i hope you have thick skin :)
[10:40] <jesuel> silly broadcom needs to release a driver for *nix, at least a binary, preferably a open source one.
[10:40] <marshall> but i think if i can get the wireless working i'll be able to handle other things
[10:41] <jesuel> marshall: what chipset?
[10:41] <marshall> dont know chipset but it's a netgear ma521
[10:41] <iSuperman> how do I determine if a blank disc is a DVD or a CD?
[10:41] <jesuel> kresten: yes, and their are faq's on how to set it up.
[10:41] <kresten> Marshall: my thoughts exactly...
[10:41] <jesuel> kresten: Your card may not even require ndiswrapper. Depending on what card it is.
[10:42] <jesuel> marshall: netgear ma521. Which inf file you use for that?
[10:42] <kresten> jesuel: it's an intel 2100
[10:42] <marshall> jesuel: i can add the wireless now no problem but when i try to activate it it just "thinks" for a while and then returns to network settings unactivated
[10:43] <marshall> the inf i'm using is netma521.inf win2k river from netgear's website
[10:43] <gsmith> hello
[10:43] <jesuel> kresten: http://ipw2100.sourceforge.net/
[10:43] <jesuel> marshall: ...hrm.
[10:44] <gsmith> i'm having a problem with mail - using postfix   dovecot - messages sent to other users on the system aren't being recieved, but those sent to myself are
[10:44] <gsmith> does anyone know how to resolve that problem and potential problems?
[10:44] <kresten> jesuel: thanks I saw it last time i was installing, but back then I thought I had a 2200... :(
[10:45] <marshall> jesuel: well definately the iwlist wlan0 scan is coming back with nothing
[10:45] <jesuel> marshall: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/Installation - Read down to section 4. Configure Interface.
[10:45] <prego> iSuperman, Looking at the disk? :-P
[10:45] <jesuel> kresten: well that would make a slight difference :)
[10:47] <kresten> jesuel: Yeah, my bad. Gotta go. Thanks for all the help!
[10:47] <jesuel> kresten: later~
[10:47] <marshall> good luck kresten
[10:47] <kresten> Marshal: Thanks!
[10:48] <iSuperman> prego: there's no printing at all on a disc I have.   Thought there may be an app that gives some sort of information.
[10:48] <marshall> jesuel: ok i'm looking at the document hold on.  basically right now i have the wlan in my "connections" in network settings but the scan doesnt work
[10:48] <jesuel> right, you may need to set your essid manually then scan
[10:50] <marshall> jesuel: windows picks up essid automatically, doesn't linux? what if i go to a public hotspot wherer i dont know the essid?
[10:51] <scizzo> marshall: the tools should search for the ssids that you can access
[10:52] <marshall> ok i'm workin on it :)
[10:53] <jesuel> should search, sometimes you have to specify it.
[10:53] <scizzo> marshall: the gnome tool to setup the network found a lot of different essids when I tried
[10:53] <jesuel> I had to specify it the first time, after that never again.
[10:53] <scizzo> jesuel: if broadcast is off yes
[10:53] <jesuel> scizzo: broadcast is on though. Was funky
[10:53] <jesuel> scizzo: It works now though.
[10:54] <scizzo> jesuel: that is weird...anywho I always turn the broadcast off....
[10:55] <marshall> well it doesn't seem to be working for some reason but i think i'm going to take a break from this before i kill it
[10:56] <jesuel> marshall: no problem. Oh trust me, when I was configuring the wireless on this laptop the other night. I *ALMOST* killed it
[10:56] <jesuel> Then, it worked!
[10:57] <jesuel> It was even better when I was configuring qos/traffic shaping /pareental controls on my firewall. :)
[11:00] <jesuel> hmm bbiab
[11:00] <hyphen> hah!  got my hard drive working!
[11:00] <marshall> thanks guys, ttyl
[11:00] <hyphen> now i have another problem though :(
[11:01] <mlambie> does anyone know of a setting that will force hibernation when on battery and it falls to say 5% remaining, or do I need to whip up a script?
[11:02] <hyphen> i'm dual booting linux and winxp, but at startup i don't get a os select prompt, it just asks if i want to boot winxp pro, anyone know why?
[11:03] <mlambie> hyphen: does it boot straight into windows, or does  GRUB prompt you for the OS and there's no Ubuntu listed?
[11:03] <hyphen> boot's straight into windows
[11:03] <hyphen> when grub DID load, and i chose winxp it would prompt for winxp again
[11:04] <hyphen> it just takes me straight to that prompt now, without going through grub
[11:04] <mlambie> sounds like windows overwrote the bootloader?
[11:04] <hyphen> is there a way i can fix that?  i think i might've done that on accident while i was rebuilding my external hd partition table
[11:04] <mlambie> google will tell you how to reinstall GRUB to the master boot record using the ubuntu CD, I expect.
[11:05] <hyphen> ah, okay
[11:05] <hyphen> thanks :P
[11:05] <mlambie> hypatia: I don't know the exact steps, sorry.
[11:06] <hyphen> not a problem, i've spent hours scavenging google for help for my hd, i can spend a few for minutes doing it now :P
[11:07] <Nermal> can nautilus burn dvds ?
[11:14] <mlambie> Nermal: yeah, Nautilus can burn DVDs... infact, I'm about to burn a few now
[11:14] <mlambie> time to clean up /media/external I think ;)
[11:21] <prego> I'm in trouble... I was playing with hibernate... and now I have no swap, Why do I have not swap? How can I enable it again?
[11:22] <prego> (I failed to start from hibernation, probably because I should have chosen "recovery" at grub)
[11:23] <Nermal> swapon ?
[11:24] <prego> swapon: /dev/hda3: Invalid argument
[11:24] <prego> sudo mkswap /dev/hda3?
[11:24] <Nermal> can do
[11:24] <Nermal> make sure you've got the right partition :)
[11:24] <prego> I'm scared
[11:25] <prego> OK, I recovered from stall ;-)
[11:25] <prego> let's see what has happened, since I was updating the system when I run out of memory and the machine hung (in practical sense of view, only)
[11:27] <prego> Fortunatelly seems that it was still downloading...
[11:27] <helloyo> is there a way to not use bad sections of RAM?
[11:29] <prego> helloyo: nice question; however I doubt it. Probably the only way is to replace bad RAM :-(. AFAIK, and I'm not an expert.
[11:29] <mlambie> helloyo: how can you tell that there's a bad section of RAM? I've only ever heard of RAM working, or not.
[11:30] <Myrtti> memtest
[11:30] <mlambie> Myrtti: ohh, ok.
[11:30] <mlambie> .... and that's installed with Ubuntu now isn't it :)
[11:30] <helloyo> yeah, i used that memory test
[11:30] <Myrtti> I once had a hardware problem that infected network connections
[11:30] <mlambie> amd I going crazy, or are we expecting the Hoary release today?
[11:30] <helloyo> it seems that you can give a boot instruction that ignores certain blocks of ram
[11:30] <spacey> helloyo, few years ago i read about that possibility. was some kernel patch i think. but i doubt its still maintained.
[11:31] <spacey> maybe it is
[11:31] <spacey> forgot the name anyway
[11:31] <spacey> but it is possible
[11:31] <Myrtti> after changing NIC, motherboard, chassis and harddrives, the last thing tried was the brand new 256MB RAM
[11:31] <Nermal> bad ram usually gives segfaults
[11:32] <helloyo> yeah, been getting heaps of segfaults
[11:32] <helloyo> well i guess i'll just get new ram, seems like the best solution
[11:32] <Nermal> download md5sums failing.. all that fun stuff :|
[11:32] <helloyo> hahaha, yep, that too, took me three goes to get a good ubuntu download
[11:32] <Myrtti> that problem existed on a windows os, if I had have linux, the problem would've been pinpointed earlier
[11:32] <helloyo> but then cos of the ram, it didn't burn great
[11:36] <jesuel> Ah, now azureus now works! : )
[11:37] <prego> azureus?
[11:37] <prego> (ubgrading, so I cannot check what it is)
[11:37] <jesuel> prego: bittorrent client :)
[11:37] <helloyo> will 512MB ram give me much of a boost over 256?
[11:37] <prego> ah :-)
[11:37] <jesuel> helloyo: IMHO yes
[11:37] <Nermal> helloyo, depends how much stuff you run
[11:38] <prego> helloyo: probably
[11:39] <prego> helloyo: with gnome et al, you reach 256 easily if you are compiling and using synaptic: I had no swap (and I didn't realize) and I reached that top... :-((
[11:40] <goldfish_> class Globals {
[11:40] <goldfish_>     public int count, outs, ins;
[11:40] <goldfish_>     Globals (int initcount) {
[11:40] <goldfish_> 	count = initcount;
[11:40] <goldfish_> 	ins = outs = 0;
[11:41] <goldfish_>     }
[11:41] <goldfish_>     public void updatecount(int i) {
[11:41] <jesuel> ...
[11:41] <goldfish_> sorry :/
[11:41] <goldfish_> fucking right click
[11:42] <linuxn00b> Hey, in webmin how do I do port forwarding?
[11:43] <gilles> ubuntu boots very slowly, especially when it tries to find a network, is there a way to improve that ? Is it because I use hoary ?
[11:44] <xamdm> @linuxn00b which firewall do jou use ??
[11:44] <linuxn00b> shorewall
[11:45] <xamdm> its under firewall rules
[11:45] <xamdm> i just gonna install it, so i can tell you the complete way
[11:46] <hedu> hi guys
[11:46] <linuxn00b> ok...I don't even know how to configure webmin but so far is has been great to me I finally got ICS working :-D
[11:46] <hedu> looking for help to get an external monitor running on my laptop
[11:46] <linuxn00b> hedu, hey :)
[11:47] <hedu> linuxn00b hey back :(
[11:47] <ZorroBytes> Anyone good here with XDMCP and getting gdm to work remotely?
[11:47] <hedu> :)
[11:48] <xamdm> @linuxn00b, did jou configure anything from shorewall?? (sorry for my bad english im german)
[11:48] <linuxn00b> can anyone connect to http://incdb.kicks-ass.net:8888/ ??
[11:49] <linuxn00b> xamdm, nope I just installed shorewall along with webmin :) I was also doing some other stuff eariler (drunk then) haha
[11:50] <xamdm> linuxn00b, ok, then there is a bit more stuff to be done, warty ore hoary ??
[11:50] <linuxn00b> shoot I cant forward a port :( my interneal network can connect fine but not external >:(
[11:50] <linuxn00b> warty :)
[11:50] <jamin_l> hey guys
[11:51] <linuxn00b> hey jamin_l :)
[11:51] <xamdm> is shorewall running??, ore didn't jou configure anything ??
[11:51] <jamin_l> I'm trying to get SoundJuicer to rip mp3s ... getting error: Could not create GStreamer encoder ((null))
[11:52] <jamin_l> have gstreamer and lame already on this beast
[11:52] <wezzer-> ahum
[11:52] <linuxn00b> xamdm, shorewall is running
[11:52] <wezzer-> you need some libraries
[11:52] <Nermal> run gst-register ?
[11:52] <wezzer-> see ubuntuforums.org
[11:52] <wezzer-> and there is howto section
[11:52] <jamin_l> wezzer: to me?
[11:52] <wezzer-> yes
[11:52] <jamin_l> i have w32codecs
[11:52] <milez> so
[11:52] <xamdm> ok, so jou want to forwart a port (example 229 to an machine in your local network ??
[11:52] <milez> any of you guys have a solution for my resolv.conf getting rewritten every 5 minutes? :P
[11:53] <jamin_l> wezzer,  anything else i need?
[11:53] <Nermal> milez, get a longer lease time ?
[11:53] <linuxn00b> xamdm, yes I want to forward port 8888 to a machine on my local network
[11:54] <wezzer-> jamin_l: wait
[11:54] <wezzer-> I'm checking the FAQ
[11:54] <milez> Nermal , i don't want it rewritten in the first place!
[11:54] <xamdm> linuxn00b, ok, just a sacond
[11:54] <milez> i mean what, should i start using fam to figure out what is actually touching it?
[11:54] <linuxn00b> xamdm, ok
[11:55] <hedu> NEED HELP: get external monitor on laptop to run (warty)
[11:55] <linuxn00b> hedu, what video card??
[11:55] <wezzer-> jamin_l: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:55] <wezzer-> brb
[11:56] <Ajaleo> hola?
[11:56] <hedu> linuxn00b sis 65x/M650/740
[11:57] <jamin_l> hrm how do you add new repositories to Synaptic again? well what's the line you enter... i know how to get to that point
[11:57] <linuxn00b> ok, lemme see what my gf did to get it working on mine one sec :)
[11:59] <linuxn00b> hedu, well she wasn't quite sure how she got it to work before...all she remember was do a simple edit in the X config :/
[11:59] <xamdm> linuxn00b, 1st choose firewall rules in webmin, create new one, Action DNAT, sourcezone (internet), destination zone (localnet),Only hosts in zone with addresses (ip), protocol TCP, destination ports 8888. Hope that works
[12:00] <hedu> linuxn00b in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 , I know that but I need to know what. is it working for you? if yes can I see your file?
[12:01] <jamin_l> wezzer, already had that installed, just needed an upgrade
[12:01] <shock_> got an A- (1.7) .... drinkin a beer now!
[12:01] <shock_> :D
[12:01] <jamin_l> and still the same error
[12:01] <linuxn00b> hedu, sorry I don't anymore I had to put XP back on there for school :( sorry
[12:02] <Myrtti> ehm
[12:02] <jamin_l> i don't get it
[12:02] <linuxn00b> xamdm, well it works if a use http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8888/ but http://incdb.kicks-ass.net:8888/ doesn't work I went to the dyndns website and updated it :/
[12:04] <linuxn00b> anyone here use dyndns.org??
[12:04] <xamdm> linunoob, yes
[12:04] <jamin_l> Anymore ideas on how to get SoundJuicer to rip to mp3? Got packages: gstreamer0.8-mad, gstreamer0.8-lame, glame. Getting error: "Could not create GStreamer encoder ((null))
[12:05] <linuxn00b> well I went to the site to update my IP but I can't connect strange...i don't know if the problem is with my port forwarding or something else
[12:05] <xamdm> linuxn00b, wihch tool do jou use for dyndns ??
[12:06] <linuxn00b> umm I just clicked on "my services" and changed it there
[12:06] <xamdm> linuxn00b, oh
[12:07] <xamdm> linuxnoob, that didn't work ??
[12:07] <jamin_l> Anyone with expertise in this subject? *sigh* this worked in Warty... now it won't work in Hoary
[12:07] <linuxn00b> xamdm, nope
[12:08] <xamdm> linuxnoob, what happens ??
[12:08] <linuxn00b> nothing when I tpye in incdb.kicks-ass.net:8888 in IE or FF nothing happens
[12:09] <xamdm> linuxnoob, did jou try to ping ??
[12:09] <milez> peopel
[12:09] <milez> how risky is it going to unstable?
[12:09] <jesuel> milez: you mean using hoary?
[12:09] <linuxn00b> xamdm, it doesn't work it used to tho but not anymore
[12:09] <milez> uh huh
[12:10] <xamdm> linuxnoob, am i allowed to do a portscan ??, just looking if 8888 is open ??
[12:10] <linuxn00b> sure
[12:10] <milez> jesper_ , it doesn't make sense to me that my windows machine has a more up to date version of firefox than the linux one
[12:10] <xamdm> linuxnoob, is thios jour online ip <IP_ADDRESS> ??
[12:10] <linuxn00b> yup thats it
[12:11] <xamdm> linuxnoob, ok then dyndns is working
[12:12] <linuxn00b> if it is working why cant I use incdb.kicks-ass.net:8888
[12:13] <xamdm> linuxnoob, maybe the forwarding isnt working, lets see what the portscan says..
[12:13] <linuxn00b> k
[12:14] <milez> err
[12:14] <milez> jesuel , that is
[12:14] <HakanGunduz> get download link ( live cd iso) ?
[12:14] <jesuel> *shrug*
[12:14] <xamdm> linuxnoob, where are jou from ??
[12:15] <goldfish_> BELGIUM ?
[12:15] <goldfish_> FRANCE?
[12:15] <goldfish_> AFGHANISTAN?
[12:15] <Myrtti> canada, I'd say
[12:16] <Myrtti> using /whois linuxn00b, then whois telus.net on command prompt
[12:16] <xamdm> thx
[12:16] <linuxn00b> canada
[12:16] <Myrtti> \o/
[12:17] <Myrtti> me teh guru!
[12:17] <xamdm> jeah
[12:17] <xamdm> anyone else from germany ??
[12:17] <jesuel> lol Myrtti
[12:17] <huami> Poland
[12:18] <xamdm> linuxn00b, still scanning, just making a pizza, bak in a few minutes
[12:18] <jesuel> wb kresten
[12:18] <linuxn00b> ok
[12:19] <Solatis_> ehrm, urgent question what should be too hard for someone to look up... where does /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a point to ?
[12:19] <kresten> jesuel: Thanks. Do you hang out here all day?
[12:19] <Solatis_> while trying to fix my hoary nvidia drivers, i accidently removed the symlink :X
[12:19] <raghu> how to restrict user ..so that he should not be able to navigate outside his home folder?
[12:19] <jesuel> kresten: Nah. Im just here right now, listening to music..bored....insomnia...
[12:20] <falcon_> \whois
[12:21] <umarmung> Solatis_: ls: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a: No such file or directory :)
[12:22] <kresten> jesuel: :( I have another question then. How does your partition structure look like?
[12:22] <Solatis_> huh
[12:22] <Solatis_> that's strange
[12:22] <Solatis_> umarmung: what do you have in that directory ? you do have libglx.so ?
[12:23] <umarmung> Solatis_: yes, it's a link to libglx.so.1.0.6629 in the same directory
[12:23] <theine> Hi, are there any plans for including gnome-bluetooth into main?
[12:23] <jesuel> dOh
[12:24] <jesuel> alt+f4 bad :)
[12:24] <xamdm> is hoary running stable ??, last time i tried nautilus allways crashed
[12:24] <kresten> he he...
[12:24] <jesuel> kresten: did my message answer your question?
[12:24] <scizzo> xamdm: hoary is not stable....
[12:24] <Myrtti> xamdm: but very soon it is
[12:25] <xamdm> ok, ist it usable ;-)
[12:25] <scizzo> xamdm: its in development....but its moving towards being stable
[12:25] <scizzo> xamdm: no
[12:25] <scizzo> xamdm: its useful for me...using it on my laptop and workstation
[12:25] <xamdm> ok, i'm just installing it in vmwasre before upgrade ..
[12:25] <cent> hello
[12:26] <kresten> jesuel: Not really... I see you have 4 partitions, right?
[12:26] <jesuel> correct
[12:26] <CentraX> Can somebody answer me on a question please?
[12:26] <jesuel> plus another 5 or 6 that i mount via nfs
[12:26] <xamdm> shure
[12:26] <CentraX> Is Ubuntu full available in Swedish?
[12:26] <kresten> ok...
[12:26] <virtuald> CentraX: nstan allt r versatt
[12:26] <virtuald> :D
[12:26] <scizzo> CentraX: ngon gng kanske
[12:26] <CentraX> se p fan :P
[12:26] <CentraX> r ubuntu bra annars? ;O
[12:27] <CentraX> bttre n fedora? fr nybrjare allts
[12:27] <scizzo> #ubuntu.se if you want to talk in swedish
[12:27] <Myrtti> HEY!
[12:27] <Myrtti> indeed
[12:27] <jesuel> lol
[12:27] <CentraX> :D
[12:27] <Solatis_> umarmung: ok, well, thanks anyway :)
[12:27] <jesuel> hmm, didnt know about #ubuntu.se
[12:27] <xamdm> linuxn00b, only port 113 themes to be open
[12:27] <xamdm> my english is so bad..
[12:28] <Burgundavia> CentraX: the best way to find out is to install. If it is not, then help us make it so :)
[12:28] <linuxn00b> xamdm, odd it should be open I must have done something worg :(
[12:28] <kresten> jesuel: But the smart thing (or so i've been told) is to use partitions to: 1. the OS 2. a swap file and 3. local users.. wrong?
[12:28] <oz_> Under hoary If I install gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad which mp3 decoder would get used?
[12:29] <CentraX> Burgundavia: yeah, why not. :P
[12:29] <jesuel> kresten: thats actually the smartest way, But i didnt do that
[12:29] <kresten> Ok. :)
[12:29] <xamdm> linuxn00b, on which system is the shorewall running, is it the ubuntu system, ore is there another linux system which is connected to the internet ??
[12:29] <Burgundavia> CentraX: not being swedish, I cannot really answer you
[12:29] <kresten> You're from sweden?
[12:30] <jesuel> Not to worry. I mount my home directory off another server. This is my laptop. Only 60gb hd on it. My home directory is getting close to 3.5 TB. The server it sits on has about 6tb of storage atm
[12:30] <scizzo> jesuel: ubuntu.se has not been known yet
[12:30] <jesuel> scizzo: ill make sure i remember it. :)
[12:30] <scizzo> jesuel: not sure where to go and tell people about it
[12:31] <linuxn00b> xamdm, shorewall is running on the one i'm using now which is also the one i'm tyring to connect to
[12:31] <xamdm> linuxn00b, so this one is connected directly to the internet ??
[12:32] <linuxn00b> yes its directly connectred to the internet (eth0) and eth1 is my local so my other PC get internet
[12:33] <jesuel> scizzo: on your screenshot...uhm what is that in the bottom right hand corner?
[12:34] <scizzo> jesuel: ?
[12:34] <xamdm> linuxnoob, ok thne we don't need a forward, just allow the port from internet, for example Action accept, source zone any, protocol tcp , destination ports 8888
[12:34] <dmoyne> I have a question regarding characters blocks under /dev ; can anybody help me
[12:34] <scizzo> jesuel: that is a desklet for rhythmbox
[12:34] <jesuel> how do you load that?
[12:35] <scizzo> jesuel: hmmm...its a addon for desklets....you install a application called gdesklets and then load it from there
[12:35] <jesuel> thx
[12:36] <dmoyne> I have a question regarding characters blocks under /dev ; can anybody help me ?
[12:36] <Seveas> dmoyne, maybe. Just ask :)
[12:37] <kresten> jesuel: I have 40GB HD available on my laptop and 512MB RAM. My friend told me that he would double the swap partition (to 1024MB). But how much space should I preserve for the OS?
[12:38] <kresten> jesuel: Is 10 GB too much?
[12:38] <dmoyne> ok this is as a matter of fact very simple : should I want to create a premanent link from /dev/intu/js0 onto /dev/js0 how doI proceed to get that set all the time at boot
[12:38] <linuxn00b> xamdm, well it's still the same resule
[12:38] <linuxn00b> *result
[12:38] <xamdm> linuxnoob, the clients on eth1 are able to connrct to interne ??
[12:38] <linuxn00b> xamdm, yup :)
[12:39] <xamdm> linuxnoob, what kind of internet connection ??
[12:39] <ellokofonker> any one know the ubuntu spanis channel?
[12:39] <jamin_l> Anymore ideas on how to get SoundJuicer to rip to mp3? Got packages: gstreamer0.8-mad, gstreamer0.8-lame, glame. Getting error: "Could not create GStreamer encoder ((null))
[12:39] <linuxn00b> xamdm, adsl
[12:39] <Seveas> dmoyne, add it to /etc/udev/links.conf
[12:39] <linuxn00b> jamin_l, use grip and install lame
[12:39] <jamin_l> grip doesnt even recognize the CDROM
[12:39] <jamin_l> already have lame
[12:39] <jamin_l> and grip for that matter
[12:39] <linuxn00b> it should did you make sure it's point to /dev/cdrom ?
[12:40] <xamdm> linuxn00b, did jou restart the shorewall ??, maybe a nother firewall also running ??
[12:40] <jamin_l> that's the problem
[12:40] <jamin_l> it's set there... and it doesn't recognize the CDROM
[12:40] <dmoyne> Seveseas : you mean simply as a command line to be executed ?
[12:40] <linuxn00b> xamdm, yeah I did I clicked on "apply confguration"
[12:40] <xamdm> linuxnoob, if still fails try firestarter firewall, it uses a nice gui
[12:40] <Seveas> dmoyne, no
[12:40] <linuxn00b> ok i'll try firestarter
[12:40] <Seveas> check the syntax of the filke
[12:40] <Seveas> file*
[12:41] <wtd_> Error: Unable to initialize [/dev/cdrom/]
[12:41] <dmoyne> seveseas then how you "add" it to this file ?
[12:41] <wtd_> ok... i am jamin_l until my ghost dies
[12:41] <Seveas> dmoyne: add the line L js0 /dev/intu/js0
[12:42] <Nermal> wtd_, /msg nickserv ghost jamin_l <password> ?
[12:42] <wtd_> not registered
[12:42] <Nermal> o
[12:42] <Seveas> dmoyne, to open the file: type sudo gedit /etc/udev/links.conf
[12:42] <linuxn00b> xamdm, I don't see what I need to do in firestarter
[12:43] <dmoyne> Seveas:  thanks I will do it do you accept another question as I am just a begginner (old Mandrake addict) with Ubuntu ?
[12:43] <Seveas> sure :)
[12:44] <wtd_> wel durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr that's the problem: /media/cdrom0 is where the CDROM is
[12:44] <Solatis_> ok, i give up, i'm simply not able to get nvidia-1.0.6629 working on my hoary installation :'(
[12:44] <wtd_> frelling thing
[12:44] <xamdm> linuxn00b, my pizza arrived, did jou open the gui ??
[12:44] <linuxn00b> xamdm, yup :) what kinda pizza?
[12:45] <dmoyne> ok  throgh the boot procedure I have 2 error messagesrelated to 2 modules shpchp and pcichp that cannot be loaded as I get the error message "permission not allowed" that is nonsense in roor mode ?
[12:45] <Seveas> dmoyne, that is a very common error which in fact is harmless
[12:45] <Seveas> to prevent it: sudo gedit /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[12:45] <Seveas> and add a line containing shpchp
[12:45] <wtd_> frell it ...
[12:45] <wtd_> no disc
[12:45] <Seveas> and one containing pciehp
[12:46] <jamin-l> do we have any brick walls in here i can bash my head on repeatedly?
[12:46] <xamdm> linuxn00b, hawai
[12:46] <dmoyne> you mean that those are very likely useless and ca be ignored ?
[12:46] <Seveas> yes dmoyne, they are useless and harmless
[12:47] <linuxn00b> xamdm, mmmm pizza!!!!
[12:47] <xamdm> linuxn00b, so jou told firestarter which interface is local an whichone is internet ??
[12:47] <linuxn00b> xamdm, yup I did
[12:47] <jesuel> scizzo: thx
[12:48] <dmoyne> you are the king of wisdom of ubuntu !
[12:48] <Seveas> lol dmoyne, no way :)
[12:50] <dmoyne> thanks for your help I will put this into practice before reappearing on this chat room
[12:50] <Seveas> good luck!
[12:50] <xamdm> linuxn00b. ok ther is are three buttons status, rules, an  the lastone i dont know in english, choose rules an then create new rule ore something that sounds like that
[12:51] <xamdm> sorry, just rightclick in the forwarding window
[12:51] <jamin_l> ok i'm really confused -- my CD contents are not at /media/cdrom0
[12:51] <linuxn00b> ok, I added anything I could that seemed like someting that would forward the port
[12:51] <xamdm> and choose new rule
[12:51] <jamin_l> and i don't have a /dev/cdrom
[12:52] <jamin_l> where the freaking hell is my CD mounted?
[12:52] <linuxn00b> jamesh, odd you should have a cdrom :-s
[12:52] <jamin_l> i know i have it because SoundJuicer sees it
[12:52] <jamin_l> and i can see the icon on the desktop
[12:52] <TFP> hi
[12:52] <jamin_l> i can't see the freaking thing
[12:53] <TFP> which version of the kernel is hoary using?
[12:53] <wezzer-> jamin_l: did you solve your problem?
[12:53] <jamin_l> no
[12:53] <jamin_l> i solved one problem and found another
[12:53] <wezzer-> see /mnt/cdrom
[12:53] <jamin_l> i tried that
[12:53] <wezzer-> if you are looking for your cdrom drive
[12:53] <wezzer-> hmm
[12:53] <Seveas> jamin_l, can you paste the output of the command: mount
[12:53] <wezzer-> check if it is mounted
[12:53] <jamin_l> oi
[12:54] <jamin_l> er i'll paste in a PM so i don't spam
[12:54] <Seveas> k
[12:54] <wezzer-> ok
[12:54] <Seveas> or use pastebin.com :)
[12:55] <xamdm> linuxnoob, is it working ??, is there a router ores somrthing before your pc ??
[12:56] <linuxn00b> xamdm, no it's not working :( there is no router before my pc
[12:57] <sihen> hello all
[12:57] <Seveas> hello sihen
[12:57] <xamdm> linuxnoob,if jou remove any firewall, does it work then ??
[12:58] <sihen> posible someone could help me out, when i mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/winblows it totally crashes my system
[12:58] <linuxn00b> xamdm, I dunno lemme check
[12:58] <sihen> NTFS file system
[12:59] <sihen> I need to mount my other hd's
[12:59] <linuxn00b> xamdm, same results :(
[12:59] <Seveas> sihen, what do you mean by "crashes my system"
[01:00] <xamdm> linuxn00b, then there is something else that blocks us, what kind of connection do jou use, how are the devices called ??
[01:00] <sihen> Seveas,  mouse is gone cant exit x cant do anything, a reset button is needed
[01:00] <linuxn00b> I use DSL what do you mean what are the deviced called?
[01:00] <jamin_l> heh i had the same problem with Woarty
[01:00] <Seveas> sihen, what are the last messages from dmesg after you try to mount?
[01:01] <jamin_l> couldn't pin it down to a single program so upgraded Hoary
[01:01] <Seveas> oh wait... reset
[01:01] <Seveas> no dmesg then :)
[01:01] <jamin_l> now i have a whole new ball of string to play with
[01:01] <xamdm> linuxnoob, ok so ppp0 is internet and eth1 is lan (so DSL is connected to eth0) correct ??
[01:01] <png> how do u mount sihen ?
[01:02] <Seveas> sihen, what are the last lines from /var/log/kern.log
[01:02] <Seveas> they should indicate something...
[01:02] <Seveas> if they don't: try mounting with:
[01:02] <linuxn00b> I dont use ppp0
[01:02] <Seveas> mount -t ntfs /dev/hda3 /mnt/winblows -o "ro,fmask=0333,dmask=0222,user"
[01:02] <xamdm> linuxnoob, just tell me what jou see if typing ifconfig (as root)
[01:02] <jamin_l> Seveas, testing my own knowledge, could you get the last lines with: cat /var/log/kern.log ??
[01:03] <xamdm> linuxn00b, how do jou connect to dsl then ??
[01:03] <Seveas> jamin_l, yes you can with that, but I meant the actual dmesg command (see also what i typed before)
[01:03] <jamin_l> ah what does dmesg do?
[01:03] <linuxn00b> just a cat5 cable to my pc and a regular line to the wall
[01:03] <Seveas> display all kernel messages since the last reboot :)
[01:04] <linuxn00b> xdm I see eth0 eth1 and lo
[01:04] <xamdm> linuxn00b, i never saw such a setup for dsl, do jou have a static ip ?
[01:04] <linuxn00b> nahh they give me a dynamic one
[01:05] <xamdm> linuxn00b, isn't ther a splitter ??
[01:05] <linuxn00b> umm I think so it outside of the house
[01:06] <xamdm> linuxn00b,how do jou connct to internet, ??
[01:06] <xamdm> linuxn00b, i mean pppoe ore another protocol
[01:06] <linuxn00b> a dsl modem...
[01:06] <xamdm> ok, what kind, how is it connectd to jour pc
[01:06] <sihen> lets try
[01:06] <linuxn00b> I have no clue I just plug it in and im good to go
[01:06] <jamin_l> i give up for tonight
[01:06] <Seveas> tonight?
[01:07] <Seveas> it's 1 pm :)
[01:07] <linuxn00b> xamdm, umm modem > pc >  switch > winXP(3)
[01:07] <sihen> root@Enigma:/home/sihen # mount -t ntfs /dev/hda3 /mnt/winblows -o "ro,fmask=0333,dmask=0222,user"
[01:07] <sihen> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda3,
[01:07] <sihen>        missing codepage or other error
[01:07] <sihen>        (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition,
[01:07] <sihen>        instead of some logical partition inside?)
[01:07] <sihen>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[01:07] <sihen>        dmesg | tail  or so
[01:07] <Seveas> sihen, so your windows partition is not /dev/hda3....
[01:08] <xamdm> linuxn00b, what is zmm ??, mine is connected via ethernet and uses the pppoe protocol
[01:08] <xamdm> umm i meant
[01:08] <linuxn00b> I was guessing ;)
[01:08] <png> sihen, sudo fdisk -l  /dev/hda .. what u see?
[01:08] <linuxn00b> I don't know what protocol it uses hahaha
[01:08] <sihen> Seveas,  trying to figer it out, i have 3 x hd's in this machine 2 x ide's and 1 x SATA. I have managed to mount my win install drive which was hda1. im trying to mount/find the other storage hd.
[01:09] <linuxn00b> it just works and I like it :)
[01:09] <Seveas> sihen, do what png says
[01:09] <Seveas> sudo fdisk /dev/hda1
[01:09] <Seveas> sudo fdisk /dev/hda2
[01:09] <sihen>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[01:09] <sihen> /dev/hda1   *           1        5099    40957686    7  HPFS/NTFS
[01:09] <sihen> /dev/hda2            5100        9537    35648235   83  Linux
[01:09] <sihen> /dev/hda3            9538        9729     1542240    5  Extended
[01:09] <sihen> /dev/hda5            9538        9729     1542208+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[01:09] <Seveas> sudo fdisk /dev/sda1
[01:09] <xamdm> linuxn00b, i don't undestand how this is done, how do jou tell it which conectiondata it should use ??
[01:09] <png> ur ntfs partion is hda1 not hda3
[01:10] <linuxn00b> conectiondata?? I dont my modem just has 2 port and phone and a ethernet
[01:10] <sihen> png
[01:10] <sihen> i should have 2 NTFS IDE hd's
[01:10] <hank_> Hey all, anyone know If I can use apt-get to install linux-wlan?
[01:10] <Seveas> sihen,
[01:11] <Nermal> sihen, hdb ?
[01:11] <png> sihen,  type sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb, or hdc or hdd .. find ur exact partion.. then try to mount.
[01:11] <xamdm> linuxn00b, how is this configured, how does jour prvider know that it is jou and not any other user ??
[01:11] <Seveas> try sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[01:11] <Seveas> and also sudo -l /dev/sda
[01:11] <xamdm> linuxn00b, ther must be a kind of configuration
[01:11] <Nermal> hmm.. bzipping a 4.7 gb file taking a while
[01:11] <linuxn00b> xamdm, oh they just ask for my MAC addy
[01:11] <sihen> i have mounted hda1 successfully but that is just my windows install files. i need to mount the other ntfs hd cause all my mp3s etc sits on there
[01:12] <Smeven> does anyone know what driver is needed for a integrated 4-in-1 media reader in a laptop?
[01:12] <xamdm> linuxn00p, strange, in germany things work just a little other..
[01:12] <linuxn00b> xamdm, odd well atleast we both get internet :)
[01:12] <sihen>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[01:12] <sihen> /dev/hdb1               1       18182   146046883+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[01:12] <sihen> /dev/hdb2           18183       19457    10241437+   c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[01:12] <xamdm> linuxn00b, did jou ever try to connect to any other os from internet, i think jou used windows before ??
[01:12] <sihen> i think hdb1 is it
[01:12] <sihen> so to mount it i should use?
[01:13] <alfatau> hi, i installed linux onto my asus M6822NEBP notebook, and i have some problems: first i can't get the battery support, but i was able to solve it following instructions found on tuxmobil.org; second, when turning off the laptop, i'm obliged to keep pressed the power key. I get the message: Power down. acpi called off. what can i do, or to what is due this behaviour??
[01:13] <Seveas> mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/winblows -o "ro,fmask=0333,dmask=0222,user"
[01:13] <png> sihen mount /dev/hdb1 and look inside it
[01:13] <p-fox> i dont suppose there's anyone here who can help me out with doing some modification to the clearlooks engine? (or know where)
[01:13] <linuxn00b> yeah my XP boxes can connect to the internet just fine :)
[01:13] <xamdm> linuxnoob, i meant the other way round
[01:14] <xamdm> linuxn00b, i belive that the problem is jour internetconnection
[01:14] <linuxn00b> you mean my linux box connecting to the net?? (it's 4:15 am been up since 5am) haha
[01:14] <linuxn00b> xamdm, I don't think it is because it used to work fine untill my gf spilled her drink all over the router a few days ago haha
[01:15] <sihen> got it :) ta, now the hard part, how do i mount a SATA drive
[01:15] <xamdm> linuxnoob, just slow for me, whichj computer is connected to the modem
[01:15] <Seveas> sihen,
[01:15] <hank_> Heya, anyone had any experience with linux-wlan?
[01:15] <Seveas> first try: fdisk -l /dev/sda1
[01:15] <hank_> can I use apt-get to install it?
[01:15] <Seveas> hank_, yes
[01:15] <Seveas> I run wlan now :)
[01:15] <linuxn00b> xamdm, my linux box is (the one i'm using now)
[01:16] <xamdm> linuxnoob, u just said the bad word router
[01:16] <hank_> Ooo, How'd ya install it?>
[01:16] <xamdm> is it a hardware router ??
[01:16] <Seveas> hank_, you meen the linux-wlan-ng driver?
[01:16] <xamdm> is thisone doing the connection ??
[01:16] <linuxn00b> xamdm, yeah I was a linksys befsr41
[01:16] <linuxn00b> that thing was build tought IMO hahaha
[01:16] <hank_> I don't know, I guess the utils and the drivers
[01:16] <Seveas> hank_, so you just mean "a wireless connection"
[01:17] <Seveas> which wifi card do you have?
[01:17] <xamdm> linuxn00b, do jou still use this router ??
[01:17] <sihen> Seveas,
[01:17] <sihen> root@Enigma:~ # fdisk -l /dev/sda1
[01:17] <sihen> root@Enigma:~ #
[01:17] <hank_> Yeah, I tried Ndiswrapper on my card. Im pretty sure that worked but I cant get a connection going. Maybe soething wrong with the windows side?
[01:17] <png> sihen, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda ;
[01:17] <png> sihen, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[01:17] <linuxn00b> xamdm, nope it doesnt work since it got water spilled all over it and I decided to set it up in flames muahahahaha
[01:18] <hank_> seveas, I have an excell 9-2.11b
[01:18] <hank_> oops, 802.11b
[01:18] <Seveas> hank_, so you still have ndiswrapper installed?
[01:18] <hank_> yeah
[01:18] <Seveas> with windows drivers?
[01:18] <xamdm> linuxn00b, ok, so now the dsl-modem is connected to eth0, correct ??, and the other computers to eth 1
[01:18] <comcor> Whats the media (cdrom, floppy, etc..) automounting junk that ubuntu uses?
[01:18] <Nermal> I do too :)
[01:18] <linuxn00b> xamdm, that is correct :D
[01:18] <Seveas> comcor: pmount
[01:19] <hank_> I think so, THe wireless deal says 100% signal stregth but the windows side says nothing
[01:19] <sihen> root@Enigma:/etc # fdisk -l /dev/sda
[01:19] <hank_> yeah with win drivers
[01:19] <raghu> when we access ftp folders through winscp ...it allos us to navigate through home and root...how to avoid this?
[01:19] <xamdm> linuxnoob, hm, so which firewall are jou running at the moment ??
[01:19] <sihen> root@Enigma:/etc #
[01:19] <Seveas> hank_, can you paste the output of the commands "iwconfig" and "ipconfig" on pastebin.com or in a private chat
[01:19] <linuxn00b> well I god shorewall and firestarter is in the taskbar
[01:19] <sihen> png, any other idea's?
[01:20] <Seveas> sorry, that last one is "ifconfig"
[01:20] <xamdm> linuxnoob, ist shorewall still running ??
[01:20] <png> sihen, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[01:20] <png> sihen, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[01:20] <png> sihen, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdd
[01:20] <linuxn00b> xamdm, yeah last I checked a few min ago
[01:20] <hank_> sssure, how can we private chat
[01:20] <Nermal> png, it's a good job you're being nice
[01:20] <png> :)
[01:20] <Nermal> I'd have moved on to dd'ing the disk by now
[01:20] <linuxn00b> xamdm, yeah its running
[01:21] <comcor> Seveas, okay, I'm unfamiliar with that and will have to look at it further
[01:21] <xamdm> linuxnoob, please stop shorewall and just use firestarter, because if firestarter allows 8888, and shorewall not..., jou know what i mean, don't jou
[01:21] <comcor> for the moment, I would like to get my cdburner to open, though
[01:21] <comcor> heh
[01:21] <Seveas> lol :)
[01:21] <sihen> root@Enigma:/etc # sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[01:21] <sihen> root@Enigma:/etc # sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[01:21] <sihen> root@Enigma:/etc # fdisk -l /dev/sdd
[01:21] <sihen> root@Enigma:/etc #
[01:22] <linuxn00b> xamdm, ok I stped shorewall and firestarter is started
[01:22] <linuxn00b> ahhh still don't work
[01:22] <sihen> png,
[01:22] <sihen> root@Enigma:/etc # ls -l /dev/sd*
[01:22] <sihen> ls: /dev/sd*: No such file or directory
[01:22] <sihen> root@Enigma:/etc # cd /dev/
[01:22] <sihen> root@Enigma:/dev # ls sd*
[01:22] <sihen> ls: sd*: No such file or directory
[01:22] <sihen> root@Enigma:/dev # ls s*
[01:23] <sihen> sndstat  stderr  stdin  stdout
[01:23] <sihen> shm:
[01:23] <sihen> snd:
[01:23] <sihen> controlC0  pcmC0D0c  pcmC0D0p  pcmC0D1p  timer
[01:23] <sihen> root@Enigma:/dev #
[01:23] <comcor> There is no disk in the drive, and its like it has it locked. dunno how to get it open, other than a paper clip
[01:23] <Seveas> comcor, what does mount say about the drive, mounted or not?
[01:24] <comcor> its not mounted
[01:24] <comcor> according to mount
[01:25] <Seveas> and you cannot eject it using "eject"
[01:25] <xamdm> linuxnoob, nmap tells me that all ports are open
[01:25] <comcor> nope, or by the button on the front of the thing..
[01:25] <Seveas> what happens if you try to mount it?
[01:25] <linuxn00b> xamdm, all??? it should work then
[01:25] <comcor> its like it is locked
[01:25] <comcor> # mount /cdrom
[01:25] <comcor> mount: No medium found
[01:25] <comcor> wha-wha-whaaaa...
[01:25] <comcor> hehe
[01:26] <Vishaakje> hi, I've installed apache2, php and mysql. But when I try to connect to mysql from php it gives me this error: cannot load mysql extension, please check PHP configuration...
[01:26] <Vishaakje> does anyone know a solution for this?
[01:26] <xamdm> linuxnoob, webmin is running on port 10000, if my ip was allowed i had been able to connect..., what is this on port 8888
[01:26] <linuxn00b> its gnump3d it's a music server for a friend
[01:26] <Seveas> comcor, does a reboot help?
[01:27] <linuxn00b> and he isnt gonna too happy when he finds out he cant connect hahaha
[01:27] <comcor> Seveas, it hasn't in the past..
[01:27] <xamdm> linuxnoob, how does he connect, just via browser ore does he use a software ??
[01:27] <Vishaakje> the manual tells me to install a software package named "PHP-MySQL" or similiar, but there isn't such a package in synaptic
[01:27] <linuxn00b> just a browser anyone can connect to it
[01:28] <Nermal> Vishaakje, try php4-mysql
[01:28] <xamdm> linuxnoob, i als beleve that firestarter is not runnig at the moment, ther are hjust to many open ports
[01:28] <Seveas> comcor, do you happen to have another OS installed or do you have a livecd at hand
[01:28] <Seveas> if so: boot the other OS or livecd
[01:28] <linuxn00b> well it's started
[01:28] <Seveas> and try there
[01:29] <linuxn00b> I can see it in the top right of my screen
[01:29] <comcor> I will later, when I have the chance..
[01:29] <Vishaakje> Nermal, can't find it in synaptic :(
[01:29] <comcor> thanks for your suggestions, though
[01:29] <CentraX> hehe
[01:29] <comcor> I will say I've never ran across this in "debian classic" ;p
[01:29] <xamdm> linuxnoob, im able to connect to gnump, just http://jour ip:8888
[01:30] <Nermal> Vishaakje, just do apt-get install php4-mysql
[01:30] <parax> hi
[01:30] <Nermal> a simple  aptitude search php |grep mysql gave me that
[01:30] <linuxn00b> yeah I know it works that way but most people have it booked marked at incdb.kicks-ass.net:8888
[01:30] <Vishaakje> Nermal, thanks!
[01:30] <Nermal> :)_
[01:30] <xamdm> linuxn00b, that also works, just doing it at this time
[01:30] <parax> is there any place where I can download Ubuntu CD covers?
[01:31] <skummich> piratebay? :>
[01:31] <xamdm> linuxn00b, http://incdb.kicks-ass.net:8888/tagbrowse/album
[01:31] <Vishaakje> Nermal, grr, error: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:31] <Nermal> close synaptic ?
[01:31] <Vishaakje> duh :P
[01:32] <linuxn00b> xamdm, I can't see anything haha
[01:32] <linuxn00b> my own server hates me haha
[01:32] <Vishaakje> ah, then he can't find the package
[01:32] <Nermal> well its listed here
[01:32] <Vishaakje> E: Couldn't find package php4-mysql :)
[01:33] <Nermal> peter@ubuntu:~$ aptitude search php4-mysql
[01:33] <Nermal> c   php4-mysql                     - MySQL module for php4
[01:33] <xamdm> linuxnoob, just stop and then start firestarter again
[01:33] <error_29> good morning.  Has anybody had this problem-- in hoary, if I unzip files to the desktop, or download (with firefox) files to the desktop, they don't show up
[01:33] <Nermal> you have universe and multiverse sources enabled ?
[01:33] <linuxn00b> xamdm, ok
[01:33] <Nermal> though you shouldn't need them
[01:33] <Nermal> :|
[01:34] <xamdm> linuxnoob, u shoul notice if someon tries to connect to jour server, the icon becomes red
[01:34] <error_29> I can't find the unzipped or downloaded files anywhere.  It's like the desktop folder is a black hole
[01:34] <Vishaakje> Nermal, I'm kinda new to this :)
[01:34] <linuxn00b> xamdm, yeah I noticed that it sayed red for a while eariler
[01:34] <linuxn00b> now its just blue
[01:34] <Nermal> error_29, don't they go to ~/ by default
[01:35] <xamdm> linuxnoob, now it shoul change
[01:36] <linuxn00b> xamdm, nope still blue
[01:36] <error_29> Nermal, nothing's going there, and I choose "desktop" in the dialogs
[01:36] <xamdm> linuxn00b, there is something wrong, ijust did a portscan,did jou allow everything ??
[01:36] <error_29> when I had firefox 1 in warty before, firefox did confuse desktop with "home" but that's not happening here.
[01:36] <linuxn00b> umm I don't think so
[01:37] <xamdm> linuxn00b, maybe u choose the wrong device (eth0 / eth1) for internet, there is ssh open and webmin .., an a few  more
[01:38] <linuxn00b> yeah I oped ssh and webmin and there thould be 2 others gnump3d and db I think
[01:38] <Myrtti> you've got webmin open to the world?
[01:38] <Myrtti> aiks
[01:38] <linuxn00b> Myrtti, it shouldnt be cause I dont see it in firestarter
[01:38] <linuxn00b> argggg
[01:39] <xamdm> linuxn00b, http (80), 6667 (irc), 443 445, 1434,
[01:39] <linuxn00b> xamdm, I dont know what the other 3 are
[01:39] <Myrtti> I've seen those
[01:39] <Myrtti> can't remember what they are,though
[01:40] <xamdm> linuxnoob, https, and sql
[01:40] <error_29> OK, this is weird- I can find the unzipped files with "search for files" -- but they don't show in nautilus otherwise.  They're not hidden.  They're just invisible!  anybody have this problem?
[01:40] <linuxn00b> ahh ok I wonder where sql came from I dont remember installing it
[01:40] <SiRrUs> good morning guys
[01:40] <xamdm> linuxn00b, firestarter doesnt run on the correct devce !!, ure computer is open to the world..
[01:41] <linuxn00b> xamdm, WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:41] <xamdm> maybe here is somone else who can hel jou ??
[01:41] <xamdm> WTF ????
[01:42] <linuxn00b> xamdm, What The F**k ;)
[01:42] <linuxn00b> xamdm, what does the port scan say now?
[01:43] <xamdm> linuxn00b, just a second
[01:43] <linuxn00b> ok
[01:45] <xamdm> linuxn00b, what did jou change ??, gnump is unreachable again ..
[01:45] <linuxn00b> I started shorewall again haha
[01:46] <xamdm> linuxn00b, only use one Firewall, so then stop firestarter, ore remove it
[01:46] <linuxn00b> I did stop firestarter
[01:46] <ddaa> Is there a simple gtk2/gnome app to display a notification from a script/program?
[01:46] <xamdm> linun00p, i don't know what todo next, maybe someonelse can help jopu
[01:46] <Vishaakje> Nermal, well, I ran apt-get update and tried to apt-get install php4-mysql. But it still can't find the package
[01:47] <fade24> hi newbee here, need help connecting 2 internet
[01:47] <Vishaakje> update from deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty main restricted
[01:47] <xamdm> linuxn00p, now everything is blocked again..
[01:47] <fade24> can anyone help?
[01:47] <linuxn00b> xamdm,  yeah i'll check around later its almost 5am haha well i'm off to bed night, xamdm thanks for your help :)
[01:47] <ddaa> What I want to do is get a dialog notification every time a mail match a filter in evolution. Evo provide "run program" and "pipe to program" actions, so I would like the right program to hook in there.
[01:48] <ogra> ddaa: look at zenity
[01:48] <linuxn00b> xamdm, good they should be blocked :)
[01:48] <xamdm> see jou
[01:48] <ogra> ddaa: heh
[01:48] <fade24> hi newbee here, need help connecting 2 internet
[01:48] <fade24> can anyone help?
[01:48] <xamdm> hi fade24, jes i can
[01:48] <ogra> ddaa: http://www.grawert.net/software/evonotify/index.html
[01:49] <ddaa> ogra: thanks, but that will not do it, I need something more explicit than 'you have mail'
[01:50] <ogra> ddaa: but it might be a base for your enhancements :)
[01:50] <ddaa> :) seriously, I'm in a "quick hack this crap I need for work" mode.
[01:51] <ogra> heh, then go for zenity :)
[01:51] <xamdm> @fade24 still need help ??
[01:51] <Vishaakje> Search and you shall find :) solved it myself :P
[01:54] <theine> Hi, does anybody know a good bluetooth tutorial (ideally for Hoary)?
[01:55] <skummich> Google is your friend. [www.justfuckinggoogleit.com]  :)
[01:57] <ddaa> ogra: thanks, that's exactly what i wanted
[01:57] <theine> skummich: I did, but wasn't entirely satisfied with the results
[01:57] <theine> skummich: but thanks for the hint!
[02:00] <error_29> Is anyone having a problem with totem skipping, on every mp3, about a second into each file?
[02:01] <bas> error_29, no. is it just with totem?
[02:01] <erny_> hello all i could appreciate your help with cups server ... i can not configure it
[02:01] <error_29> good question bas!  you're right, I should check more apps (when i get some...!)
[02:05] <skummich> Hello. My Name is skum :)
[02:08] <seby_> hi, everytime when my ubuntu boot, i have to reconnect my router, so that i can get a connection to the internet. others computers like mac osx machine have no problems. any clues about that. something wrong with dhcp?
[02:09] <Zindar> define "reconnect my router"
[02:10] <Zindar> reconnect it how? what? why?
[02:10] <bas> seby_, so your router gets misconfigured when you boot ubuntu? or doesnt ubuntu correctly connect to your router?
[02:10] <membreya> lo SiRrUs :)
[02:10] <seby_> i got a smc router, when i boot my computer, i have to visit the router config page and manually have to reconnect to my isp
[02:10] <seby_> otherwise i dont get a connection to the internet
[02:10] <membreya> that's a router problem then seby_
[02:10] <SiRrUs> membreya good morning
[02:11] <seby_> but mac osx and windows work fine with that
[02:11] <membreya> only 8 mb for downloads today....
[02:11] <membreya> it's getting SO light weight
[02:11] <seby_> only ubuntu got problems with it
[02:11] <SiRrUs> :) yeah it is
[02:11] <membreya> seby_: if it truly is a router...then it shouldn't need your computer to connect it to the internet
[02:12] <bas> seby_, what does your interfaces configuration look like after booting ubuntu? (/sbin/ifconfig)
[02:13] <membreya> god I love ubuntu calender :P
[02:13] <membreya> cept that pic with the dude :|
[02:13] <Myrtti> you men
[02:13] <membreya> shush Myrtti :P
[02:14] <membreya> march has a good bum :P
[02:14] <Myrtti> I'll do a wallpaper with chocolate
[02:14] <seby_> bas, if i terminate eth0 and reactivate it again, it works too
[02:14] <membreya> oh ...anyone else not able to use their "hibernate" ?
[02:14] <seby_> but it doesnt just work after boot up
[02:15] <seby_> i can connect to the router, but not to the inet
[02:15] <membreya> seby_: is it broadband or dial up with the router?
[02:15] <seby_> dial up
[02:16] <seby_> pppoe
[02:17] <SiRrUs> coffee time brb
[02:17] <bas> seby_, how do you "terminate" eth0 and reenable it in ubunty? /etc/init.d/networking restart?
[02:17] <membreya> k SiRrUs :)
[02:17] <seby_> ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0
[02:18] <Upayavir1> Hi all. I'm getting "tar: A lone zero block at XXXXX" whenever I try to untar something. Different XXXXX for each tar file. Any ideas anyone?
[02:19] <membreya> lo tritium
[02:19] <tritium> hi membreya :)
[02:20] <SiRrUs> nothing like a coffee when the temp is so cold
[02:20] <SiRrUs> hello tritium
[02:20] <tritium> Hello SiRrUs!
[02:22] <membreya> SiRrUs: where in canadia are ya?
[02:23] <SiRrUs> Barrie Ontario  30 mins north of Toronto
[02:23] <membreya> aaah...french cannuck huh :P
[02:23] <SiRrUs> Nope :)
[02:23] <membreya> my ex-gf and kid live in Vancouver eh :)
[02:24] <SiRrUs> Pretty much all English around here
[02:24] <SiRrUs> oh yeah Vancouver is ok
[02:24] <membreya> really? hmmmm far as I knew all east coasters were french canadian
[02:24] <membreya> and lumberjacks :D
[02:24] <SiRrUs> lol
[02:24] <Hannes_> vancouver is cold
[02:24] <SiRrUs> not all of us
[02:24] <Burgundavia> vancouver is not cold
[02:24] <SiRrUs> Vancouver is warn
[02:24] <SiRrUs> warm
[02:24] <SiRrUs> compared to here
[02:25] <membreya> I work all day and I sleep all night
[02:25] <SiRrUs> I like golfing rather then chopping trees
[02:25] <Burgundavia> ah, you poor east coasters
[02:25] <Hannes_> -7C here now
[02:25] <SiRrUs> The east coast is like 1000 miles from here
[02:25] <Burgundavia> 10C
[02:25] <membreya> I cut down trees and eat my lunch and go to the lavatory..
[02:25] <xamdm> 3C
[02:25] <membreya> on wednesdays i go shopping
[02:25] <membreya> and have buttered scones for teaaaa
[02:25] <SiRrUs> we like thinking of ourselves as being in Central Canada :)
[02:25] <Burgundavia> and dress up in womens underwear
[02:26] <Burgundavia> just like my daddy did
[02:26] <Hannes_> but hey, school from 8.15-16.45 yay
[02:26] <superted> Hannes_: haha, where do you go to school?
[02:26] <Hannes_> Finland
[02:26] <SiRrUs> -15c here
[02:26] <membreya> i put on womens clothing and hang around in bars, i wish id been a girly, just like my dear papa
[02:27] <HiddenWolf> membreya: ??
[02:27] <membreya> SiRrUs: yes...it's true.. I'm tonedeaf :(
[02:27] <picole> hi,everybody
[02:27] <membreya> yes HiddenWolf ?
[02:28] <SiRrUs> hello picole
[02:28] <SiRrUs> membreya this isnt getting real boring
[02:28] <SiRrUs> isnt=is
[02:29] <membreya> im sorry SiRrUs :(
[02:29] <jesuel> mmm
[02:29] <picole> i wanna ask when the hoary release,can you tell me?
[02:29] <jesuel> much better
[02:29] <SiRrUs> no I mean everything is working for me ;)
[02:29] <membreya> next month apparently picole
[02:29] <membreya> oh ok :)
[02:29] <picole> o,merci
[02:29] <membreya> time to move to a new distro that's bleeding edge? :P
[02:29] <xamdm> is gnome 2.10 jet in hoary ??
[02:29] <membreya> bleeding edge = getting cut lots
[02:29] <membreya> xamdm: yes
[02:29] <SiRrUs> lol dont think so
[02:30] <picole> i am a guy from Shanghai
[02:30] <xamdm> membreya: thx
[02:30] <membreya> trying to pick up picole ? :P
[02:30] <membreya> lol
[02:30] <membreya> np xamdm
[02:31] <xamdm> will i have problems  with upgrade from warty (using backports)
[02:31] <picole> i am waiting for gnome2.10,but i saw the gnome release plan,as if today is the gnome2.10 release,am i right?
[02:32] <membreya> picole: gnome 2.10 has been trickled to hoary over the last few days :)
[02:32] <picole> o,i see,thanks
[02:33] <picole> anyone who have been Shanghai,i am studying at Tongji University
[02:34] <picole> hehe
[02:34] <Fator_Dee> I might move to asia in the future, if the software patents in EU fuck up everything :-p
[02:35] <shock> indeed
[02:35] <shock> :/
[02:35] <Fator_Dee> should start learning chinese in university
[02:35] <shock> those f****ing bastards are all bribed... everyone can clearly see that
[02:35] <shock> :(
[02:35] <Fator_Dee> btw
[02:35] <Fator_Dee> http://mjr.iki.fi/texts/patentfund
[02:35] <shock> hrhr I know
[02:35] <picole> :)
[02:35] <shock> u in?
[02:36] <Fator_Dee> nope, been thinking about sending a mail
[02:36] <Fator_Dee> but I have mailed my countries mep though
[02:36] <picole> me too,when i go to gnome.org
[02:39] <picole> thanks,guys.i love this place,and i love ubuntu too.
[02:39] <SiRrUs> picole and we all love you :)
[02:40] <picole> i will always be here later
[02:40] <Fator_Dee> "Even jesus- uses Ubuntu, why won't you too?"
[02:40] <picole> xiexie,this is Chinese
[02:40] <picole> see you
[02:43] <Xappe> what is a normal hdd temperature range for an ibook g3? think mine is getting to warm when running Hoary. I get 47-50C from hddtemp...
[02:43] <Xappe> and it feels quite warm on the outside
[02:44] <membreya> what about cpu temp Xappe ?
[02:45] <Xappe> membreya, don't think it's that high. cat /proc/cpuinfo gives around 30C uncalibrated
[02:46] <BiteMeBill> A typical range would be -40C (-40F) to 70C (158F). Clearly few users will have a problem with these numbers.
[02:46] <BiteMeBill> That was a copy and paste.
[02:46] <Xappe> from?
[02:47] <BiteMeBill> pcGuide
[02:47] <membreya> Ive had my amd64 3200 running at 120 degree celcius when the CPU fan wasn't connecting properly :P
[02:48] <Xappe> well, another strange thing is that I never hear the fan either, and I'm sure that worked when I had OSX installed
[02:48] <BiteMeBill> Xappe: Disregard what I pasted. I completely disagree with it..  Misread ot.
[02:48] <BiteMeBill> ot = it
[02:49] <BiteMeBill> Xappe: Software shouldn't be stopping your fans.
[02:50] <Xappe> BiteMeBill, well ok. I'm not that familiar with laptops. Started to use this one yesterday...
[02:51] <BiteMeBill> Xappe: I've had some laptops that there was no way I was going to put in on my lap.
[02:51] <BiteMeBill> Just too hot for my flesh.  LOL
[02:52] <arun--> clear looks engine is in the updates
[02:52] <BiteMeBill> Xappe: http://www.heatsink-guide.com/content.php?content=hdd.shtml
[02:53] <Xappe> hmm
[02:54] <milez> hello
[02:55] <milez> can anyone tell me how to modify the default gdm input language?
[02:55] <SiRrUs> hi
[02:55] <milez> because i seem to be entering hebrew glyphs as my username and no key combination i try switches it to english.
[02:55] <milez> i reset all the environment variables and restart gdm
[02:55] <milez> and the problem persists.
[02:56] <arun--> milez: did you try the gdm.conf under/etc/gdm?
[02:57] <milez> arun-- , i looked at it
[02:57] <milez> and found nothing relevant.
[02:57] <milez> did i miss anything?
[03:03] <sihen> y0 who wants to try help me get my SATA HD working? I have tried with png but we were unsuccessful
[03:03] <sihen> root@Enigma:/dev # sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdd
[03:03] <sihen> root@Enigma:/dev # sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdc
[03:03] <sihen> root@Enigma:/dev # sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdd
[03:03] <membreya> it should be sda sihen
[03:04] <sihen> root@Enigma:/dev # sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[03:04] <sihen> root@Enigma:/dev #
[03:06] <membreya> sihen: is your SATA drive detected at boot? ie do a dmesg
[03:06] <sihen> oops
[03:06] <membreya> hmm who here can help with grub menu ?
[03:06] <membreya> I want to know what the quiet splash command is for ?
[03:07] <Burgundavia> membreya: quiet is so that the kernel doesn't spew its messages to stout
[03:08] <membreya> aaah :)
[03:08] <membreya> danke
[03:08] <membreya> playing with splash images :)
[03:08] <Burgundavia> to see the diff, boot into recovery mode (traditionally known as single-user mode)
[03:08] <Burgundavia> that does not have quiet on
[03:08] <Burgundavia> and note that quiet only applies to kernel, so you still get all the init stuff
[03:09] <sihen> membreya, can i paste to u in priv?
[03:09] <membreya> sure
[03:10] <magaltavor> hi can i have some help
[03:10] <magaltavor> i have a problem
[03:10] <Burgundavia> what is your issue.
[03:10] <Burgundavia> s/./?
[03:11] <magaltavor> i installed hedghug and i made one an update and now it gaves me error
[03:12] <kent> magaltavor, hedghug?  Do you meen Hoary?
[03:12] <magaltavor> yes sir
[03:12] <Burgundavia> what kind of error?
[03:13] <magaltavor> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packag es (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Pa
[03:13] <magaltavor> ailed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/restricted/source/S ources.gz  Bad header line
[03:13] <sihen> membreya,  any idea man?
[03:13] <Burgundavia> magaltavor: can you surf the web?
[03:14] <magaltavor> of course
[03:14] <magaltavor> i can chat from the machine
[03:14] <kent> magaltavor, are you sure you have updated the list of packages (refresh in Synaptic) or run "sudo apt-get update" from a terminal?  either one will do..
[03:14] <Burgundavia> ok, just checking
[03:14] <magaltavor> the same
[03:14] <magaltavor> issue
[03:15] <magaltavor> couls you please regiveme the offical url for apt- for update
[03:15] <magaltavor> so i can recheck them
[03:16] <magaltavor> or anything
[03:16] <kent> magaltavor, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GuideToHoary
[03:16] <magaltavor> ok
[03:16] <magaltavor> can anybody tell me what is this
[03:17] <kent> magaltavor, make sure you get the Hoary lines correctly.   And then refresh the list of packages either in synaptic or Hoary. Then run "apt-get dist-upgrade" or upgrade from synaptic.
[03:17] <magaltavor> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Bad header line
[03:17] <magaltavor> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Bad header line
[03:17] <magaltavor> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/source/Sources.gz  Bad header line
[03:17] <magaltavor> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/restricted/source/Sources.gz  Bad header line
[03:20] <kent> mercurus, do you use synaptic or apt  to update/install programs?
[03:20] <kent> magaltavor, do you use synaptic or apt to update/install programs?
[03:20] <kent> damn tabcompletion
[03:22] <kent> magaltavor, you could msg me your sources.list file (the repositories in synaptic).  That way I can see if it contains any errors.  (dont post the file here, that way people will be angry)
[03:28] <magaltavor> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted
[03:28] <magaltavor> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted
[03:28] <magaltavor> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch major bug fix updates produced
[03:28] <magaltavor> ## after the final release of the distribution.
[03:28] <magaltavor> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[03:28] <magaltavor> ## repository.
[03:28] <magaltavor> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[03:28] <Fator_Dee> gah
[03:28] <magaltavor> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[03:28] <magaltavor> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[03:28] <magaltavor> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[03:28] <magaltavor> ## team.
[03:28] <magaltavor> #deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe
[03:28] <Myrtti> magaltavor: ever heard of /msg
[03:28] <magaltavor> #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe
[03:28] <Fator_Dee> not like this :-/
[03:28] <magaltavor> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted
[03:28] <magaltavor> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted
[03:28] <magaltavor> # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security universe
[03:28] <magaltavor> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security universe
[03:28] <Fator_Dee> pastebin, pretty please
[03:28] <magaltavor> Myrtti, i did it but missed something i ma sorrry
[03:28] <magaltavor> really ssorry guys
[03:29] <magaltavor> Kent
[03:29] <magaltavor> did you saw them
[03:29] <StoffBox-Steve> hmm guys i installed Enlightenment, but can find an option to log into it!
[03:29] <kent> magaltavor, yes. Im looking, but I cant see any errors :(
[03:31] <magaltavor> ok i will check somthing now
[03:33] <cocol> i have downloaded a new plashscreen...how to install it?
[03:33] <scizzo> cocol: use gconftool
[03:33] <cocol> System>Preferences>?
[03:34] <scizzo> cocol: no
[03:34] <cocol> i will try gconftool
[03:34] <scizzo> cocol: Applications->Systemtools
[03:34] <cocol> have to install it?
[03:34] <cocol> ok thanks
[03:35] <scizzo> Apps -> gnome-session -> options
[03:35] <scizzo> and that is the place with the splashscreen
[03:35] <cocol> iam in hoary
[03:35] <scizzo> me too
[03:35] <scizzo> I have it there
[03:36] <CentraX> oki
[03:36] <jono> sladen, PING
[03:39] <Brunellus> I have a stupid question about xmms
[03:40] <Brunellus> ubuntu wants to use totem to play back icecast streams
[03:40] <Brunellus> and I want it to use xmms
[03:40] <raydogg``> right click on the file
[03:40] <raydogg``> properties
[03:40] <raydogg``> open with
[03:40] <Brunellus> I have successfully made xmms the default CD player
[03:40] <Brunellus> here's the thing, though
[03:40] <Brunellus> if I copy the location and put that through xmms, I should hear the stream, right?
[03:40] <raydogg``> is it over samba ?
[03:41] <sihen> membreya,  here?
[03:41] <Brunellus> no.  I'm trying to play a stream off the internet
[03:41] <Brunellus> one of the ones listed on icecast.org
[03:41] <raydogg``> i see, i've never done that
[03:41] <scizzo> Brunellus: open location
[03:41] <raydogg``> I have a .pls for that and i associated the .pls with xmms and it plays shoutcasts
[03:42] <Brunellus> scizzo:  I tried open location, and I get nothing
[03:42] <Brunellus> so I'm wondering what I must be missing
[03:42] <Brunellus> I open location, I hit OK
[03:42] <Brunellus> and nothing.  nothing in the playlist, no output.
[03:43] <scizzo> Brunellus: what happens when you tell it to open location and what exactly do you tell it to open?
[03:43] <kapput1> I'm not able to open secure sites from firefox in ubuntu
[03:43] <Brunellus> scizzo:  I copy the location from the icecast.org list, like this:
[03:43] <Brunellus> http://dir.xiph.org/listen.php?pid=653504&file=listen.m3u
[03:43] <Brunellus> for instance.
[03:44] <Brunellus> I go to xmms, "play location" and put that into the dialog box
[03:44] <scizzo> that does not help
[03:44] <Brunellus> click OK
[03:44] <Brunellus> and then nothing.
[03:44] <kapput1> is there any other alternative to the browser
[03:44] <scizzo> Brunellus: try to download the file instead
[03:44] <scizzo> Brunellus: vi file.m3u
[03:44] <scizzo> or just open it as normal
[03:45] <sihen> root@Enigma:/mnt # umount /mnt/winblows/
[03:45] <sihen> umount: /mnt/winblows/: not mounted
[03:45] <sihen> root@Enigma:/mnt # mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb /mnt/winblows/
[03:45] <sihen> mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /mnt/winblows/ busy
[03:45] <sihen> root@Enigma:/mnt #
[03:45] <scizzo> Brunellus: if the server is using mp3 and so on then maybe you are missing the plugin that tells you that you can play mp3 and so on in xmms
[03:45] <scizzo> Brunellus: find the restricted formats in the wiki and make sure that you have that first
[03:45] <Brunellus> scizzo:  it didn't work on an .ogg
[03:45] <scizzo> Brunellus: after that try to add the playlist again
[03:46] <Brunellus> and I have the codecs from the restricted-formats wiki
[03:46] <Brunellus> however, bizarrely, downloading and then playing them worked.
[03:46] <scizzo> sihen: some user standing in the directory?
[03:46] <scizzo> sihen: make sure that no terminal or something is using that searchpath...
[03:47] <scizzo> sihen: to find out if the mountpoint is being mounted just type mount or df -h
[03:47] <sladen> jono: /me is on GPRS busy fixing a box somewhere.  can you repeat the question?  /msg is better
[03:47] <scizzo> Brunellus: try to add the m3u file as a normal playlist then
[03:47] <sihen> scizzo,  i did a root@Enigma:/mnt # chmod 777 winblows/
[03:48] <sihen> would that be preventing it from mounting
[03:48] <Brunellus> yeah, that sounds like it might work.
[03:48] <sihen> root@Enigma:/mnt # df -h
[03:48] <sihen> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[03:48] <sihen> /dev/hda2              34G  1.7G   31G   6% /
[03:48] <sihen> tmpfs                 443M     0  443M   0% /dev/shm
[03:48] <sihen> none                  5.0M  2.8M  2.3M  56% /dev
[03:48] <tizen> sihen: do mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/hd<blah> /mnt/winblows
[03:48] <tizen> instead of chmod 777
[03:48] <scizzo> sihen: like I said make sure that no terminal or something is using the mountpoint
[03:48] <Brunellus> scizzo:  no, it won't add as a remote location
[03:49] <Brunellus> the stream will only be added if I download the ogg stream or the m3u stream, and add the file conventionally
[03:49] <Brunellus> weird.
[03:49] <scizzo> Brunellus: not as a remote location....download the file...and then try to add it with the addplaylist thingy
[03:49] <Brunellus> scizzo:  yes, that worked.
[03:49] <Brunellus> it'll do as a workaround.  now I want to know how I can add a remote location without having to go through this
[03:49] <scizzo> Brunellus: then you have no problem more then the browser not knowing what player to use for m3u files
[03:50] <scizzo> Brunellus: change the mimetype
[03:50] <Brunellus> how?
[03:51] <sihen> tizen,
[03:51] <sihen> root@Enigma:~ # mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/hdb /mnt/winblows
[03:51] <sihen> mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /mnt/winblows busy
[03:51] <Echylo> damn, how do you unblock somebody in gaim?
[03:51] <sihen> /dev/dev/hdb    /mnt/winblows   auto    ro,user,noauto  0       0
[03:51] <scizzo> sihen: have you looked so that no one is using that directory?
[03:52] <sihen> thats what iv added to fstab
[03:52] <Brunellus> scizzo:  how do I change the mimetype?
[03:52] <sihen> scizzo, yes
[03:52] <scizzo> sihen: that is wrong
[03:52] <scizzo>  /dev/dev/hdb < ---- /dev/hdb
[03:52] <sihen> scizzo, what should it be?
[03:52] <scizzo> not 2 devs
[03:52] <sihen> hmmm me looks
[03:53] <scizzo> Brunellus: 2 ways.....there is some way to change it in GNOME don't remember where though
[03:53] <sihen> fixed
[03:53] <scizzo> Brunellus: and then you have mimetypes in the browser....
[03:53] <Brunellus> scizzo:  i'm listening.
[03:53] <scizzo> Brunellus: look at the prefs for the browser...look at google to find the mimetype definition and then tell it what to do
[03:53] <sihen> brb
[03:54] <scizzo> Brunellus: often you can tell the browser to : open with : something
[03:54] <Burn`> is dvdrecord in the hoary tree?
[03:56] <sihen> what is adm? it fails on boot
[03:57] <Brunellus> scizzo:  OK, yes, that comes up when I click on the link to the stream
[03:57] <Brunellus> I can't find where xmmms is on the machine though
[03:57] <Brunellus> I installed it via synaptic
[03:57] <scizzo> Brunellus: whereis xmms
[03:57] <scizzo> Brunellus: in a terminal
[03:58] <scizzo> or which xmms
[03:58] <scizzo>  /usr/bin/xmms
[03:58] <scizzo> what it seems like here
[03:59] <scizzo> remember that you can add special parameters for it also
[03:59] <scizzo>  %s and so on I guess it is
[03:59] <Brunellus> huzzay.  that works!
[03:59] <scizzo> ;)
[03:59] <scizzo> glad to hear
[04:01] <sihen> scizzo,  so how do i fix this prob :(
[04:02] <Fator_Dee> how can I uninstall an application which I have compiled from source?
[04:03] <xamdm> make uninstall
[04:03] <Fator_Dee> mplayer, that is in this case
[04:03] <oscarh> is hoary rather stable by now or should i watch out?
[04:03] <scizzo> sihen: ?
[04:03] <jordanau> is there an open terminal keystroke?
[04:03] <Fator_Dee> xamdm: thank you
[04:03] <xamdm> fator_dee: np
[04:03] <zimba-tm> xamdm, is it possible to monitor install in case "make uninstall" does not exist ?
[04:03] <Burgundavia> oscarh: hoary becomes stable april
[04:04] <Burgundavia> oscarh: preview release in about 5-6 hours
[04:04] <xamdm> ziba-tm: i don't know
[04:04] <zimba-tm> xamdm, ok thansk xou
[04:04] <oscarh> yeah but with warty, it was quite stable a month before release
[04:04] <raggi> Hi!, i have some problem with my apache2, it is usig over 400mb ram !!! why !?!!!!!!!
[04:04] <scizzo> jordanau: not standard...you can fix that with going System -> Properties -> Keystrokes
[04:04] <jordanau> great thanks
[04:05] <scizzo> raggi: stop screaming
[04:05] <raggi> never!
[04:05] <raggi> :)
[04:05] <raggi> alright i will stop screaming, i just wondering why my apache2 is using so much ram... over 400mb :S
[04:05] <Fator_Dee> hahum... /bin/sh: -c: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file || make: *** [uninstall]  Error 2 || these came after I "unmaked" it, should I be worried?
[04:06] <xamdm> fator_dee: this never happend to me, hm
[04:06] <ronalde> saving a translation in rosetta fails with "A system error occurred." any clues?
[04:06] <Fator_Dee> well, mplayer won't start, so it did something :-)
[04:07] <xamdm> fator_dee: ;-)
[04:07] <Fator_Dee> but there were other messages too, those were the last ones
[04:07] <scizzo> raggi: memory leak?....look at the logs...
[04:08] <xamdm> fator_dee: did jou run this as root ?? ore with sudo ??
[04:08] <Thunderwood> if i could get my wireless network runnign life would be great
[04:08] <raggi> hmm.... logs?
[04:08] <Fator_Dee> xamdm: sudo
[04:08] <sihen> scizzo,  i still cant mount this drive
[04:08] <xamdm> fator_dee: then i don't know what happen
[04:09] <jordanau> thanks scizzo, i can now open it with control shift t
[04:09] <raggi> where would the logs be for apaceh2 ?
[04:10] <sihen> scizzo, :(
[04:10] <Fator_Dee> xamdm: well, I'll sacrifice a chicken and do some majick tricks, let's see what happens :-p
[04:10] <jordanau> rhthym box is really buggy isn't it?
[04:10] <xamdm> fator_dee. good luck, il go shopping, till later..
[04:11] <scizzo> sihen: what does the mount command tell you?
[04:11] <scizzo> raggi: /var/log/ somewhere?
[04:12] <raggi> hmm thx ;) i will check :D
[04:12] <sihen> scizzo, tells me its busy
[04:13] <ronalde> saving a translation in rosetta fails with "A system error occurred." any clues?
[04:13] <scizzo> sihen: but your fstab online also do a dmesg > /tmp/dmesg.log
[04:13] <[eDu] > hi
[04:13] <scizzo> sihen: and put both of them online
[04:14] <sihen> put it online?
[04:14] <scizzo> jordanau: rhythmbox works fine here
[04:14] <scizzo> sihen: so I can see the logs and so on
[04:14] <raggi> i dont find anything wrong with the logs :S
[04:14] <scizzo> sihen: on a page
[04:14] <scizzo> raggi: ok....you get any errors when starting apache2?
[04:14] <sihen> scizzo,  can i dcc send? or mail?
[04:14] <raggi> no :S
[04:14] <schweeb> what's the ETA on the preview release today?
[04:16] <kapputu> anyone here?
[04:17] <Fator_Dee> just barely
[04:17] <kapputu> not able to access secure sites
[04:17] <kapputu> tried with both mozilla and firefox
[04:17] <Burgundavia> ronalde: try #launchpad or #rosetta
[04:18] <ronalde> Burgundavia: thx
[04:20] <sihen> scizzo, ?
[04:21] <Tuxadermist> bleh still no adding launchers to the applications menus ?
[04:22] <sihen>  Tuxadermist i add launches to the desktop and they just dont appear
[04:23] <Tuxadermist> Hmm
[04:23] <Tuxadermist> Not good
[04:24] <scizzo> sihen: not dcc
[04:24] <sihen> scizzo,  email?
[04:24] <scizzo> sihen: I don't have time more then if I can get it online on a page to look
[04:25] <sihen> hold let me try
[04:25] <scizzo> sihen: hmm...wait a sec
[04:25] <scizzo> sihen: what does the line in fstab look like again?
[04:27] <sihen> hold
[04:27] <sihen> /dev/hdb        /mnt/winblows   auto    ro,user,noauto  0       0
[04:28] <scizzo> that won't work well
[04:28] <blackfeet> hi, i've a question about the ubuntu versions, whats the diffrence between hoary and warty? is it like sid and sarge in debian?
[04:28] <scizzo> first you need to tell it which partition
[04:28] <scizzo> hdb is the disk...but what partition?
[04:28] <scizzo> and the: ro,user,noauto is something I would consider
[04:29] <scizzo> I would use defaults,noauto in that case
[04:29] <scizzo> the auto thingy I would change to the correct filesystem: ntfs or whatever it is you are using
[04:30] <sihen> scizzo, so can you give me the line to replace it?
[04:30] <schweeb> blackfeet: warty is the current release, hoary is the release candidate... so right now, more like stable and sarge
[04:30] <scizzo> sihen: no
[04:30] <scizzo> sihen: I don't know what partition you are using
[04:31] <sihen> scizzo, its NTFS?
[04:31] <scizzo> sihen: but what number in hdb?
[04:31] <scizzo> sihen: look....hdb only tells me that you have a harddrive..
[04:32] <sihen> yes hdb
[04:32] <scizzo> sihen: you need like hdb1 or hdb2 or something
[04:32] <sihen> so how do i find this info out
[04:32] <schweeb> blackfeet: then when hoary is released, they'll create a grumpygroundhog (think that's the next name), so hoary will be stable and grumpy will be more like unstable, until they do the freezes, where it turns into more of a sarge
[04:32] <sihen> hmmm
[04:32] <scizzo> sihen: cfdisk /dev/hdb
[04:33] <blackfeet> schweeb: i heared that hoary is using xfree and not xorg, is it true?
[04:33] <scizzo> sihen: that will show you the partitions on that disk
[04:33] <scizzo> sihen: with sudo that is
[04:33] <schweeb> blackfeet: entirely untrue
[04:33] <sihen> dev/hdb1               1       18182   146046883+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[04:33] <schweeb> warty is using xfree, hoary is using xorg
[04:33] <scizzo> sihen: there we go
[04:33] <blackfeet> schweeb: ok, i think i will use an hoary ;) thx a lot
[04:34] <scizzo> sihen: the line would be: /dev/hdb1   /mnt/winblows  ntfs  defaults,noauto  0  0
[04:34] <schweeb> blackfeet: if you wait a fwe hours, there'll be an official preview release CD for download
[04:34] <scizzo> sihen: or something simular
[04:34] <blackfeet> blackfeet: from what? hoary?
[04:34] <sihen> so it should be /dev/hdb1       /mnt/winblows   auto    defaults,noauto  0       0
[04:35] <sihen> oh ok cool
[04:35] <schweeb> blackfeet: for hoary, yes
[04:35] <sihen> ta
[04:35] <scizzo> sihen: remove the auto and replace it with ntfs
[04:35] <sihen> think thats why it wont mount?
[04:35] <Bog1> hello
[04:35] <Bog1> does ubuntu have a security team or working group?
[04:35] <blackfeet> schweeb: now no hoary is available?
[04:36] <schweeb> there are unofficial CDs, but the official preview will be published sometime today
[04:36] <blackfeet> schweeb: oh, i think i have downloaded an official hoary live, is this possible?
[04:36] <schweeb> best to wait for that, so you can test it and make bugreports on it
[04:37] <scizzo> sihen: try...I am not sure
[04:37] <wixtech> Xappe: how is your ibook doing? Is it still running hot?
[04:37] <Fator_Dee> can I have all 4 instances of automake (1.4, 1.6, 1.7, 1.8) installed without messing up my system?
[04:37] <kapputu> I'm not able to access secure webmail from firefox
[04:37] <schweeb> blackfeet: don't think the final officials have been released... there are some near-final ones around, yes
[04:39] <scizzo> sihen: might happen that you need to reboot to get everything working as it should....but shouldn't have to...
[04:39] <scizzo> bbl
[04:39] <HiddenWolf> blackfeet: the pre-release hoary's are being uploaded now, not yet official/stable, but it's the last landmark before it.
[04:39] <Xappe> this temperature thing is driving me nuts
[04:40] <blackfeet> HiddenWolf: perfekt, then i will wait for it ;)
[04:40] <Fator_Dee> Xappe: be happy that it's not boiling your nuts :-p
[04:41] <Thunderwood> so where can i go to find out how to get my damn wireless lan working?!?!?!
[04:41] <schweeb> blackfeet: you could always install from what you have, but I figure, what's a few hours to wait so that you can fileb ugs on their official preview release, rather than an unofficial release where some of the bugs may have already been worked out
[04:42] <Xappe> Fator_Dee, blah ;) It's really hard to find what a normal temp of a ibook hdd is
[04:43] <sihen> scizzo,  check this, i mount it in root and it works fine
[04:43] <sihen> using user sihen i get
[04:43] <sihen> /dev/hdb1   /mnt/winblows  ntfs  defaults,noauto  0  0
[04:43] <sihen> but i have chmod 777 /mnt/winblows
[04:44] <sihen> root@Enigma:~ # ls -ls /mnt/
[04:44] <sihen> total 4
[04:44] <sihen> 4 drwxrwxrwx  2 sihen sihen 4096 Mar  9 13:40 winblows
[04:44] <scizzo> sihen: yes?
[04:45] <Thunderwood> annnnnnnyyyyyyyyyyyboooooooddyyyyyy
[04:45] <scizzo> Thunderwood: what is your problem exactly?
[04:45] <scizzo> Thunderwood: might be good to have a problem, error or something that we can base the problem on..
[04:45] <sihen> oops
[04:46] <drspin> does anyone know what a good VECTOR graphics program is for linux
[04:46] <drspin> ?
[04:46] <sihen> when i try access it with username sihen i get bash: cd: /mnt/winblows/: Permission denied
[04:46] <scizzo> drspin: inkscape
[04:46] <scizzo> sihen: yes...and you can access it with root
[04:46] <Thunderwood> i don't even know where to start
[04:47] <scizzo> sihen: that is the wonderful world of NTFS not good for use in Linux
[04:47] <sihen> yes and iv already done a chmod 777 /mnt/winblows
[04:47] <scizzo> Thunderwood: is the card found?
[04:47] <scizzo> sihen: *shrug*
[04:47] <schweeb> sihen: what are you trying to do? write to ntfs?
[04:47] <sihen> ok
[04:47] <Fator_Dee> http://sh.nu/~crimsun/mplayer/ <-- which one I should install if I have an AMD Duron?
[04:47] <DazeD||laptop> i get this wicked error when i try to run konqueror something about not being able to connect to the dcopserver
[04:47] <sproingie> is readonly ntfs reasonably stable?
[04:47] <sihen> schweeb,  not at all, im just trying to change permission on the mount dir so I can access it with other users besides root
[04:48] <sproingie> would be nice to get the fonts off my ntfs partition
[04:48] <sihen> scizzo, thanks for all your help
[04:48] <tizen> sihen: try mount -t ntfs -o umask=0222 /dev/hd<blah> /mnt/winblows
[04:48] <Thunderwood> scizzo: how do i check that? I am assuming no because it says that there is no trace of a signal in the icon
[04:48] <sapphire> hello
[04:48] <Echy> anyone knows why after the update to hoary some parts of the menu are missing?
[04:48] <tizen> sihen: that should work
[04:49] <schweeb> sihen: man mount... look at the uid,gid,umask attributes
[04:49] <tizen> sihen: or do you want to do it through fstab?
[04:49] <scizzo> Thunderwood: dmesg | grep eth
[04:49] <tizen> sihen: I know it works because I do it that way
[04:49] <schweeb> yea, what tizen said
[04:49] <blackfeet> does anybody know the historical background of the cool ubuntu releasnames?
[04:49] <sihen> tizen,  fstab would be better
[04:49] <scizzo> Echy: restarted gnome after upgrade?
[04:49] <tizen> /dev/hdb5       /Music          ntfs    defaults,umask=0222     1       2
[04:49] <tizen> thats my line in fstab
[04:49] <Thunderwood> what does that do?
[04:49] <sihen> schweeb,  the permissions where changed tho check this 4 drwxrwxrwx  2 sihen sihen 4096 Mar  9 13:40 winblows
[04:50] <schweeb> it's the umask that matters, sihen
[04:50] <tizen> sihen: not the files of the drive though
[04:50] <tizen> since you don't have access to change those permissions
[04:50] <tizen> read only
[04:51] <tizen> sihen: did it work?
[04:51] <sihen> dev/hdb1       /mnt/winblows          ntfs    defaults,umask=0222     1       2 ?
[04:51] <tizen> the dump and pass comments i'm not sure about
[04:51] <tizen> but it works
[04:51] <tizen> put that in your fstab
[04:51] <tizen> and it should work
[04:51] <schweeb> just use 0 0
[04:51] <sapphire> i was conected to the internet throught linux,  networked through another computer,  not that computer crashed,  and i can't get online with linux,  and i miss it so,  i dislike windows,  pm me if you can help me,  i will have to write it down as i am on windows now,  i am desperate
[04:51] <sihen> let me try
[04:52] <schweeb> tizen: those are for fsck'ing... set to 0 0
[04:52] <dazed_> saphire
[04:52] <dazed_> u on  lan or ppp?
[04:52] <tizen> k schweeb
[04:52] <sihen> ok let me try
[04:52] <schweeb> the ntfs is read only, so it won't need to be fsck'ed
[04:52] <scizzo> Thunderwood: it looks for the ethernet cards or something that is found on boot
[04:52] <sapphire> oh and i am new to linux
[04:52] <scizzo> s/on boot/during boot/g
[04:53] <tizen> thanks schweeb
[04:53] <sihen> same thing
[04:53] <sihen> sihen@Enigma:~$ cd /mnt/winblows/
[04:53] <sihen> bash: cd: /mnt/winblows/: Permission denied
[04:54] <sapphire> right now i am conncted straight to the dialup connection
[04:54] <schweeb> sihen: you have to remount it after you add to fstab
[04:54] <schweeb> umount /mnt/winblows
[04:54] <Echy> yes scizzo I restarted :)
[04:54] <schweeb> mount /mnt/winblows
[04:54] <tizen> sihen: sudo umount /mnt/winblows && sudo mount /mnt/winblows
[04:54] <gb6ygk> hello
[04:54] <sapphire> someone plaes pm me and help if you can
[04:55] <sihen> it works *jump* up and down
[04:55] <sihen> thanks guys
[04:55] <tizen> sihen: np
[04:56] <sihen> another quick thing, sound works perfectly but on skype when i call someone it saying ringing but i dont hear anything
[04:56] <tizen> Sorry, I don't know anything about skype
[04:57] <tizen> check see in properties if you can specify and audio out
[04:57] <Echylo> ow wait
[04:57] <tizen> an audio device i mean
[04:57] <Nermal> maybe its the multimedia selector thing
[04:57] <Echylo> it's gonna upgrade panel
[04:57] <scizzo> Thunderwood: ?
[04:58] <sihen> tizen,  /dev/dsp :)
[04:58] <tizen> sihen: s'all i got.
[04:59] <jennychica123> Is 'make dep' not needed anymore when compiling the linux kernel (in any distro) anymore?
[04:59] <sihen> nod
[04:59] <jennychica123> no?
[04:59] <Nermal> it's not
[04:59] <sihen> how I start with the fight to get my SATA working, dont think its in the kernel
[04:59] <Nermal> just make will automatically do that bit very quickly
[04:59] <Nermal> sihen, compile it into the kernel then
[04:59] <jennychica123> ah because of the newer gcc?
[04:59] <Nermal> though I don't see why it wouldn't be
[04:59] <Nermal> jennychica123, no idea
[05:00] <Nermal> I doubt it
[05:00] <jennychica123> hm ok thanks
[05:01] <sihen> whats a good mpeg and avi player?
[05:05] <[FiDO] > is today the official release of gnome 2.10
[05:06] <Nakah> hi, I have problems with suspend-to-ram and my laptop (Ibm T40p)
[05:07] <Nakah> can somebody help me please ?
[05:07] <meuserj|work> After upgrading hoary today, sound will no longer work... is this a known issue?
[05:07] <Myrtti> we're not mindreaders, so if you could tell a bit more about your problem, it might help
[05:08] <Nermal> Nakah, not surprised
[05:08] <Nermal> suspend to ram is a bit dodgy still
[05:08] <Fator_Dee> http://sh.nu/~crimsun/mplayer/ <-- which one I should install if I have an AMD Duron?
[05:09] <meuserj|work> I tried catting /dev/urandom to /dev/dsp, and I get static.. so from the OS level, sound is working.  But RB won't play.
[05:09] <scizzo> [FiDO] : yesterday was the release
[05:09] <Nakah> the "sleep.sh" is working, but when I restart the laptop the screen is freezed
[05:09] <eruin> how do I view changelogs for ubuntu packages?
[05:09] <eruin> anyone care to enlighten me? ;)
[05:09] <membreya> hmmm has anyone else noticed the "add/remove programs" under Applications > System Tools??
[05:10] <eruin> meuserj|work: long time since your last upgrade, eh?
[05:10] <Nermal> membreya, not got that, and I'm on gnome 2.10
[05:10] <eruin> meuserj|work: try running polypaudio from commandline
[05:10] <eruin> membreya: yeah
[05:11] <scizzo> membreya: yes
[05:11] <eruin> membreya: got that here too
[05:11] <scizzo> membreya: useful thingy actually
[05:11] <scizzo> [FiDO] : hmmm...or something....check www.gnome.org for that information I guess
[05:12] <membreya> if you encrypt a message (or sign it) with openpgp, can someone without pgp read that message? :P
[05:12] <eruin> membreya: can't wait for the system services part to start working ;)
[05:12] <eruin> if you sign it, someone else can read it
[05:12] <cocol> is it possible to install gnome 2.1.0 with haory
[05:12] <cocol> ?
[05:12] <eruin> if you encrypt it, they need your public key
[05:12] <meuserj|work> eruin, no.. I upgrade daily
[05:12] <membreya> aah ok :)
[05:12] <Nermal> cocol, no. but you can install 2.10
[05:12] <membreya> lol Nermal :P
[05:12] <cocol> that i mean...lol
[05:13] <Nermal> think so
[05:13] <cocol> with apt
[05:13] <membreya> thanks eruin :)
[05:13] <Nermal> I just upgrade to it
[05:13] <meuserj|work> my gstreamer audio sink is OSS, not esd.. so running polypaudio shouldn't make a difference.
[05:13] <StoffBox-Steve> hmm guys i cant remove Bootsplash  E: bootsplash-theme-newlinux:  process pre-removal script send error  10 back
[05:13] <eruin> membreya: np ;-)
[05:13] <Nermal> just do an apt-get dist-upgrade after an update
[05:13] <membreya> eruin: ...just use webmin for services :P
[05:13] <eruin> meuserj|work: true
[05:13] <Nermal> and you should get gnome 2.10
[05:13] <eruin> membreya: it works fine?
[05:13] <cocol> thanks
[05:13] <cocol> nermal
[05:13] <membreya> all I tried it on is samba :)
[05:14] <meuserj|work> eruin, and when I test it in gstreamer-properties, it works fune.
[05:14] <meuserj|work> s/fune/fine
[05:14] <eruin> meuserj|work: but stuff like rhythmbox doesnt work?
[05:15] <eruin> I think I'm gonna have to stop using polypaudio
[05:15] <Thunderwood> ok i used the dmesg | grep eth
[05:15] <eruin> it always uses 10% cpu
[05:15] <Thunderwood> it found one interface
[05:15] <StoffBox-Steve> can anybody help . trying remove Bootsplash give a Error 10 back :S
[05:15] <Thunderwood> ubuntu does not find my wireless card
[05:15] <meuserj|work> eruin, rb starts clicking, then crashes.
[05:16] <xamdm> Thunderwood: which one do jou have ??
[05:16] <Thunderwood> xamdm : i have both
[05:16] <StoffBox-Steve> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:16] <eruin> meuserj|work: I got that too, solved itself after a reboot, so I never found the real cause
[05:16] <yaaar> word
[05:16] <xamdm> thunderwood: what kind of wireless car do you have ??
[05:16] <Nermal> membreya, still not got the add / remove programs thing
[05:16] <meuserj|work> eruin, ok... I'll try slaying myself then, and if that doesn't work I'll reboot.. thanks.
[05:16] <Thunderwood> xamdm> they are both integrated
[05:17] <Thunderwood> xamdm> broadcom
[05:17] <eruin> bloody hell! polypaudio using 22% constantly
[05:17] <xamdm> thunderwood: which chipset ??
[05:17] <Thunderwood> xamdm> im not sure
[05:17] <danny_> Hello everyone
[05:17] <Thunderwood> xamdm> hang on
[05:17] <xamdm> thunderwood: ah, hm wait a minute
[05:17] <Thunderwood> xamdm> hm?>
[05:17] <danny_> I am new to linux
[05:17] <yaaar> is it possible to run warty with one or two packages (and their deps) from hoary? i'm looking to install asterisk, which appears to be in the hoary universe repo but not in warty...
[05:17] <danny_> I was able to install ubuntu but now am lost
[05:18] <xamdm> thunderwood: just thiking about (im german, sorry  for unenglish comments)
[05:18] <Thunderwood> xamdm> hm is an english comment
[05:18] <danny_> I installed it on a MAC
[05:18] <danny_> Has anyone else installed it PPC
[05:19] <xamdm> thunderwood: waht kind of notebook do jou use ??
[05:19] <reon> Hi !
[05:19] <hawke> danny_: I have
[05:19] <Thunderwood> xamdm> presario R3275us
[05:19] <danny_> Does it work well
[05:19] <danny_> ???
[05:19] <Thunderwood> xamdm>  it is the p4 not the amd
[05:19] <linuxboy> where is the doc on the wiki about the sudo stuff?
[05:20] <reon> Any ALSA gurus here ? I have a problem selecting my USB device as the default sound device.
[05:20] <xamdm> ok
[05:20] <Thunderwood> xamdm> ya have any thoughts
[05:21] <raggi> hile, i'm trying to set up pisg, and i dont know how i add channels to that?, can someone tell me how? :), i dont find the edit file :/