[00:48] <snak3> hi
[00:50] <snak3> i've some trouble installing lubuntu on an old notebook of mine. i get an exit code 10 error for ubi-partman - already tried to the nodmraid boot option but no luck. any suggestions?
[00:55] <phillw> snak3: how much RAM do have?
[00:56] <snak3> 256mb
[01:15] <phillw> snak3: you could be below ubiquity levels if the laptop is also using RAM for graphics (which they do)
[01:16] <snak3> the gfx has 16mb dedicated ram
[01:17] <phillw> snak3: how old a laptop? as what processor does it have?
[01:19] <snak3> pentium3 m 1ghz
[01:20] <snak3> from around 2002
[01:21] <phillw> snak3: that should be okay with 10.10, but i586 support was dropped in 10.10.
[01:21] <phillw> Have had the CD self test itself?
[01:24] <snak3> i did a verify with imgburn after burning the iso, but i can start the selftest
[01:24] <xuzas> hi everyone! what can i do to get smaller fonts on pidgin? lxde has always so big fonts..!!
[01:26] <head_victim> xuzas: you can change the default font to whatever font and size you prefer
[01:26] <xuzas> yes, i know and did so
[01:26] <head_victim> Ah ok, sorry
[01:27] <xuzas> but pidgin doesn't changes his fonts :|
[01:28] <head_victim> xuzas: have a quick look you need to go into tools and then preferences
[01:28] <head_victim> This will open a preferences window.
[01:29] <head_victim> If you click the "conversations" tab it will open that up.
[01:29] <head_victim> There is a box at the bottom of that window with the heading "Default Formatting" and if you click the word "Font" in the table it opens a drop down box.
[01:29] <head_victim> Just tick the "smaller" option. Fingers crossed that's what you're looking for.
[01:30] <head_victim> You can click it twice actually to make it even smaller if it's not small enough to start with.
[01:30] <snak3> phillw: cd check completed without errors
[01:31] <xuzas> well... i did so
[01:32] <xuzas> but it looks like nothing has changed
[01:32] <xuzas> on the preferences window the font is even smaller,, but not here
[01:35] <phillw> head_victim: can you hold the fort, I'm on 1-2-1 with someone :(
[01:36] <xuzas> i'll restart pidgin, maybe then changes will take effect
[01:58] <head_victim> xuzas: how'd it go?
[01:58] <xuzas> nothing changed
[01:58] <head_victim> Odd
[01:59] <xuzas> i've no idea bout how to changed it
[01:59] <head_victim> I'm going to set up an irc account
[02:01] <xuzas> jajajaja
[02:01] <head_pidgin> didn't change anything here either
[02:01] <head_pidgin> There is a "font" in the window here htough but all it's options are greyed out.
[02:01] <xuzas> does lubuntu use openbox?
[02:02] <xuzas> yes
[02:02] <xuzas> and i don't know why
[02:03] <xuzas> yesterday i still had the option to changed fonts from de conversation window
[02:03] <xuzas> but now all font settings appear in grey
[02:04] <head_pidgin> You might have to manually make the change.
[02:05] <head_pidgin> http://tiny.cc/2jne5
[02:05] <head_pidgin> and also http://tiny.cc/06sn4 should help
[02:07] <head_victim> I prefer separate clients for my chat protocols, never understood what mixing them up would do but confuse me.
[02:10] <xuzas> on the gtkrc file there are the same options like on the settings window
[02:11] <xuzas> bkjb
[02:12] <xuzas> nothing happens... i think
[02:12] <head_victim> Anyone use pidgin in here able to shed more light?
[02:19]  * phillw uses pidgin, sorry I've been busy on all sorts of stuff, let me read up on what the issue is
[02:19] <xuzas> wOw!
[02:19] <xuzas> someone heard you
[02:21] <phillw> xuzas: I've never had fonts working in pidgin :)  I just accept it is the way it is, not the best in the world, but it's a one stop shop for my IRC, Yahoo!, MSN and AIM accounts.
[02:21] <head_victim> How about a bug then?
[02:23] <xuzas> emm...
[02:23] <phillw> head_victim: TBH, for what they pack into that little programme, it's okay by me. If someone wishes to file a bug, that's up to them :)
[02:23] <xuzas> i only use de default font
[02:24] <xuzas> but it too big
[02:24] <snak3> phillw can i downgrade xubuntu to lubuntu somehow?
[02:24] <phillw> xuzas: it's smaller than xchat :)
[02:24] <xuzas> but i think it depends not on pidgin
[02:24] <snak3> xubuntu 10.10 install went through without any errorr
[02:25] <JoeMaverickSett> snak3: i think you could install lubuntu-desktop and get rid of all xubuntu packages.
[02:25] <head_victim> phillw: yeah but if the option is there it should technically work. If it doesn't then it is a bug :)
[02:25] <phillw> snak3: no, you can upgrade from xubuntu to lubuntu if you want, though :)
[02:25] <xuzas> when i use pidgin in ubuntu fonts are regular
[02:25] <snak3> hehe, ok. and how do i do that?
[02:25] <xuzas> but here, under lxde/openbox...
[02:25] <phillw> snak3: give me 30 seconds
[02:26] <snak3> ok ,thx
[02:26] <JoeMaverickSett> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop ?
[02:26] <JoeMaverickSett> phillw: ^
[02:26] <JoeMaverickSett> :D
[02:26] <phillw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Install%20Lubuntu%20from%20Ubuntu%20or%20any%20Ubuntu%20flavors
[02:27] <JoeMaverickSett> after that get rid of other packages by using this tutorial: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde :D
[02:27] <phillw> JoeMaverickSett: no, you have to use the no recommends bit to keep it lean :)
[02:27] <JoeMaverickSett> phillw: tbh, that's what i'd do and i don't care. :P
[02:27] <phillw> JoeMaverickSett:  ^^^^^^^^^
[02:27] <JoeMaverickSett> phillw: i refuse! :P
[02:28] <phillw> JoeMaverickSett: it links to the tutorial on psychocats :)
[02:28] <xuzas> what?
[02:28] <JoeMaverickSett> phillw: oh! :D
[02:28] <xuzas> i think you can try witth "apt-get lxde"
[02:33] <phillw> xuzas: you will not lubuntu, there is a good reason why me and the dev team put https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Install%20Lubuntu%20from%20Ubuntu%20or%20any%20Ubuntu%20flavors onto the documentation area. I'm one of the documenters for the project :P
[02:33] <snak3> i'm going for the "sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop" version :)
[02:34] <phillw> snak3: we can and will support that, afterall it's on our documentation area :D
[02:34] <xuzas> mm..¿?
[02:35] <xuzas> well, you cached me
[02:36] <phillw> xuzas: you have an invite
[02:36] <xuzas> what?
[02:36] <phillw> ahh, no you dont.......
[02:37] <phillw> xuzas:  /join #lubuntu-offtopic
[02:37] <xuzas> oh
[02:43] <snak3> it seems all went well, thx guys
[02:45] <phillw> snak3: I know that set of instructions work :D
[02:46] <snak3> hehe, should i follow the instructions on JoeMaverickSett psychocats link also? or is that not necessary?
[02:46] <JoeMaverickSett> snak3: the link phillw gave you also links to that :D
[02:47] <phillw> JoeMaverickSett: yes it does, but you need to alter the end of it.
[02:47] <JoeMaverickSett> phillw: alter what? :)
[02:49] <phillw> snak3: the link from wiki tells you to alter the very end to include the -no install recommends
[02:49] <snak3> yea, i see it now
[02:49] <snak3> i just did the "sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop"
[02:49] <snak3> without the purelxde stuff
[02:49] <phillw> I'll go stalk the forum moderator who maintains pyschocats
[02:50] <JoeMaverickSett> phillw: you can get him on facebook. :D
[02:51] <snak3> i guess i can now just execute the first part of the command without the install at the end
[02:51] <phillw> snak3: if you're changing from, say xubutnu; then use the command line from psychocats but just alter the end to have the no recommends bit in it.
[02:53] <JoeMaverickSett> phillw: ah, that part. i get it now. :D
[02:53] <phillw> JoeMaverickSett: we use the no recommends as it saves dragging extra stuff.
[02:53] <JoeMaverickSett> phillw: ai, i got it cap'tn. :P
[02:54] <stlsaint> phillw: hey question:
[02:54] <stlsaint> i just plugged in my usb headset and in ubuntu i simply click on sound icon and change input/output to the head set but i cant see to be able to do that in lubuntu as easy
[02:59] <snak3> wow removing 321 packages / 638mb....i wonder whats left from the system after that :D
[03:01] <phillw> snak3: lubuntu is pretty small :D
[03:02] <phillw> It will run on 512MB pen drive :)
[03:02] <JoeMaverickSett> LUBUNTU FTW!
[03:02] <JoeMaverickSett> :D
[03:10] <len> Well I figured out that when the wifi card doesn't work on the Thinkpad 600 it is because the yenta_socket driver is not triggering a udev event when the card is inserted.  (udevadm monitor shows nothing after insertion).  When I do manage to get it work, I see a lot of udev message in the monitor.  So the questions remains as to why udev only gets triggered some of the time when a pcmcia card is inserted.
[03:16] <phillw> len: as you know, I'm not a dev, can you pop the question onto the mailing list?
[03:17] <phillw> len: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved
[03:37] <jscinoz> Hi... On a machine I recently installed lubuntu on... the LXDE menu is completely empty. However, if i switch to a VT and login and logout, when i switch back to xorg, the menu is populated... How can i make the menu have items as soon as the system boots
[03:44] <bioterror> jscinoz, that seems to be weird problem
[03:45] <bioterror> we really cant help with that atm. could you please make a  bug report?
[03:45] <bioterror> or mail to the list: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved
[03:47] <jscinoz> Ok...
[09:40] <benjr1> this might be a stupid question but how do i access my external drive
[09:40] <benjr1> its plugged in but i dont know where to find it
[10:04] <benjr1> perhaps lubuntu just isnt for me, ill think ill reformat and put xp back on, something that just works
[11:58] <C_hris> can I ask about grub here?
[11:59]  * szczur hides
[11:59] <C_hris> I have installed lubuntu alongside windows and now windows has disappeared from the boot menu
[11:59] <C_hris> :/
[11:59] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install os-prober
[11:59] <bioterror> sudo os-prober
[11:59] <bioterror> sudo grub-update
[11:59] <bioterror> there you go ;)
[12:00] <bioterror> but the question is: why in the earth, would you like to boot into windows, when you got lubuntu
[12:00] <szczur> :P
[12:00] <bioterror> :-)
[12:00] <C_hris> YOU ARE A GOD
[12:00] <C_hris> os-prober
[12:01] <C_hris> thank you
[12:01] <C_hris> its update-grub though
[12:01] <bioterror> well
[12:01] <bioterror> :D
[12:06] <Goodgame> hey got a little problem
[12:06] <szczur> Goodgame, what is it?
[12:06] <Goodgame> my wifi light turns blue to red to blue to red... without stopping but i'm still connected
[12:07] <bioterror> okay
[12:07] <bioterror> what does it mean? :D
[12:07] <bioterror> I like blinking leds
[12:07] <Goodgame> you know on my laptop there is a light that tells you if your wifi is off (light is red) or up (light is blue) and here he can't stop changing but my connection is ok
[12:08] <bioterror> haha
[12:08] <bioterror> I would take some LSD and watch that light!
[12:08] <Goodgame> :D
[12:09] <bioterror> really, nothing much we can do about it
[12:09] <szczur> get some blue paint and fix it by yourself :P
[12:09] <bioterror> if course if you want to shutdown your wlan, you can always say "sudo ifconfig wlan0 down"
[12:09] <bioterror> ofcourse...
[12:09] <bioterror> szczur, we are so hilarious today!
[12:09] <szczur> Goodgame, what is the model of the laptop?
[12:09]  * bioterror got a feeling of Samsung
[12:09] <Goodgame> hp pavillion dv9000
[12:10] <szczur> bioterror, :P
[12:10] <bioterror> oh!
[12:10] <bioterror> hp
[12:11] <bioterror> that's almost like this Compaq 6710b which I'm using right now
[12:12] <szczur> Goodgame, can you pastebin te output of dmesg
[12:12] <szczur> the*
[12:12] <Goodgame> dmesg?
[12:12] <szczur> yeah
[12:12] <szczur> run terminal
[12:12] <bioterror> !pastebin
[12:13] <szczur> and run dmesg by typing it in and pressing enter
[12:13] <szczur> it may be this > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/324051
[12:13] <szczur> but i'm not sure
[12:14] <szczur> there's led blinking too
[12:16] <bioterror> ahhh
[12:16] <bioterror> broadcom
[12:17] <szczur> Goodgame, are you still here?
[12:19] <Goodgame> I don't understand why I'm doing this
[12:21] <szczur> i wan't to know if the output of this command will be the same as mentioned in the bug
[12:21] <szczur> report
[12:22] <Goodgame> ok, I'll do it later cause it's lunch time
[12:22] <Goodgame> thanks for helping me
[12:36] <Rabbitbunny> uh... where's the trash bin?
[12:38] <bioterror> he got trashed
[12:38] <bioterror> open file manager
[12:38] <bioterror> you should find it from there
[12:38] <bioterror> if I remember right
[12:38] <phillw> Rabbitbunny: open up PCManFM and it will be there, you can put an icon on the desktop, but as far as I know you cannot yet drag stuff into it, just open and browse via it.
[12:39] <Rabbitbunny> Does it say trash on it or something?
[12:39] <szczur> phillw, you can drag icons in development version :)
[12:39] <phillw> trash or wastebin.
[12:39] <szczur> Rabbitbunny, it should say trash
[12:40] <Rabbitbunny> it doesn't.
[12:40] <Rabbitbunny> if I log out and go back to gnome for a second, is it gonna delete all that>?
[12:40] <szczur> http://szczur.ath.cx/trash.png
[12:40] <szczur> third entry
[12:40] <szczur> called Kosz
[12:40] <bioterror> szczur, got that pic yet? :D
[12:41] <szczur> pic?
[12:41] <bioterror> oh, wrong channel, yeah your mail
[12:41] <Rabbitbunny> I really don't have that one :(
[12:42] <szczur> "No new messages on the server" - said Thunderbird
[12:42] <szczur> :)
[12:42] <bioterror> :(
[12:42] <Rabbitbunny> if I jump over to gnome, I can get the file back there, right?
[12:42] <bioterror> what?
[12:42] <szczur> Rabbitbunny, can you clikc on the Help -> About...
[12:42] <szczur> and tell me the version of PCManFM
[12:42] <Rabbitbunny> 0.5.2
[12:42] <szczur> ahhh
[12:43] <szczur> outdated
[12:43] <szczur> veeery outdated
[12:43] <Rabbitbunny> uh, this is the lubuntu-desktop package...
[12:43] <szczur> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
[12:43] <szczur> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:43] <szczur> you're on lubuntu 10.04?
[12:44] <Rabbitbunny> ubuntu 10.04, but I wanted lxde.
[12:44] <szczur> ahh
[12:44] <szczur> so add this repository
[12:44] <szczur> sudo apt-get install pcmanfm2
[12:44] <szczur> but remove pcmanfm earlier
[12:44] <szczur> or gimme the moment
[12:46] <szczur> ok so the comands are:
[12:46] <szczur> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
[12:46] <szczur> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:46] <szczur> sudo apt-get remove pcmanfm
[12:47] <szczur> sudo apt-get install pcmanfm2
[12:47] <szczur> et voila
[12:47] <szczur> :)
[12:47] <Rabbitbunny> why... why is the ubuntu package so old?
[12:47] <szczur> ubuntu alwes been a bit old :)
[12:48] <szczur> that's why ppa's are in existence :)
[12:48] <szczur> XD
[12:53] <Rabbitbunny> uh, I think it's gonna be updating stuff for a while.
[12:53] <Rabbitbunny> I can't believe I deleted my VMs' disk file.
[12:53] <Rabbitbunny> That was super retarded.
[12:54] <bioterror> :D
[12:54] <Rabbitbunny> I was trying to copy it, just in case and I guess I hit delete, it asked me if I was sure, and obviously I was... then my disk disappeared.
[12:54] <Rabbitbunny> Suprise was extreme.
[12:58] <Rabbitbunny> Do I have to logout to get pcmanfm2 or something?
[13:00] <phillw> Rabbitbunny: if you've replaced pcmanfm, then yes, you need to log out and back in for the changes to take effect.
[13:00] <Rabbitbunny> And it's not going to empty the trash, right?
[13:00] <phillw> Rabbitbunny: nope, that is a manual task.
[13:01] <Rabbitbunny> Okay, good. Don't want to install windows and solidworks again.
[13:02] <Rabbitbunny> ...the trash is empty.
[13:03] <phillw> Rabbitbunny: if you pop onto #lubuntu-offtopic I'll tell you a bit more about the support for 10.04
[13:03] <Rabbitbunny> So, I deleted a file on my external NTFS formatted 1TB drive.
[13:03] <Rabbitbunny> Should I just start reinstalling windows? All of my work-output files are in my shared folder, there's no data loss, just the installations.
[13:05] <phillw> Rabbitbunny: is it your windows trash that is empty or your lubuntu one?
[13:05] <Rabbitbunny> lubuntu
[13:05] <Rabbitbunny> I don't run windows on real hardware, I've learned that that's just asking for problems, windows is VM only.
[13:22] <Rabbitbunny> Okay, couple issues from that. No more icone on my desktop and pcmanfm opens twice every time I login.
[13:22] <Rabbitbunny> icons*
[13:44] <dipilibupap> Hello
[13:44] <dipilibupap> Bonjour
[13:44] <dipilibupap> Anglais ou Francais?
[13:45] <bioterror> english
[13:45] <dipilibupap> Ok
[13:45] <bioterror> or klingon
[13:45] <dipilibupap> i have a wifi problem
[13:45] <dipilibupap> nd now with lubuntu
[13:45] <dipilibupap> ive had it with ubuntu
[13:45] <bioterror> phillw speaks fluent klingon
[13:45] <bioterror> what kind of problem
[13:45] <dipilibupap> the thing is that i try to connect to my wifi
[13:45] <dipilibupap> and it asks for my password.. so i put it in.. and it never connects
[13:45] <dipilibupap> it asks my password again
[13:46] <dipilibupap> and never connects..
[13:46] <bioterror> hmmm
[13:46] <dipilibupap> and the same thing over and over
[13:46] <dipilibupap> its a freshly installe lubuntu ..
[13:46] <dipilibupap> it works great..
[13:46] <bioterror> do you use wpa or wep?
[13:46] <dipilibupap> just the wifi does not connect..
[13:46] <dipilibupap> i think wpa.. but im not sure
[13:46] <dipilibupap> how do i chk?
[13:46] <dipilibupap> chek?
[13:46] <bioterror> well
[13:47] <dipilibupap> sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[13:47] <dipilibupap> this command worked for someone
[13:47] <dipilibupap> but im not sure what it is...?
[13:47] <bioterror> it's a firmware for the broadcom wifi chipset
[13:48] <bioterror> are you using HP laptop?-)
[13:48] <dipilibupap> no
[13:48] <dipilibupap> im using a fujitsu siemens amilo l7300
[13:48] <dipilibupap> wifi works great in windows
[13:48] <dipilibupap> but windows was getting way to heavy
[13:48] <dipilibupap> so now windows is completely gone
[13:48] <dipilibupap> and i just have lubuntu
[13:48] <dipilibupap> im using another computer rite now.. i installed lubuntu on my other laptop
[13:49] <dipilibupap> im ready to go and connect to ethernet.. if you have any solution for me
[13:49] <bioterror> just a moment
[13:50] <bioterror> in terminal
[13:50] <dipilibupap> yep
[13:50] <bioterror> iwlist wlan0 scan
[13:50] <dipilibupap> wlan0 no scan resluts
[13:51] <bioterror> you have wlan0?
[13:51] <bioterror> right?
[13:51] <bioterror> if you say "ifconfig"
[13:51] <bioterror> it lists you a wlan0
[13:51] <bioterror> ?
[13:51] <dipilibupap> yes it does
[13:51] <dipilibupap> ive got eth0 lo wlan0
[13:51] <bioterror> ndiswrapper -l
[13:51] <bioterror> what does that say?
[13:51] <dipilibupap> is that an -l
[13:52] <dipilibupap> ok its an l
[13:52] <bioterror> yes
[13:52] <bioterror> l like list
[13:52] <dipilibupap> ..wrapper 1.9 not installed
[13:52] <bioterror> ohkey
[13:52] <dipilibupap> ndiswrapper utils 1.9 not installed
[13:52] <bioterror> you're not using ndiswrapper then
[13:53] <bioterror> but you have wlan0
[13:53] <bioterror> just checking
[13:53] <dipilibupap> apparently so.. i can always connect to ethernet
[13:53] <dipilibupap> and download wrapper
[13:53] <dipilibupap> if its gonna help
[13:53] <bioterror> no
[13:53] <bioterror> we dont need that
[13:53] <dipilibupap> ok
[13:54] <dipilibupap> wlan0 gives me 16 RX packets errors and 22 TX errors
[13:54] <dipilibupap> if that helps..
[13:55] <bioterror> oh
[13:55] <dipilibupap> ?
[13:55] <bioterror> my wife calls
[13:56] <bioterror> and I have to go, I would help you, but she came with car and is picking me up from work
[13:56] <dipilibupap> ok thank you anyways
[13:56] <dipilibupap> i hope ill get someone to help me
[13:56] <bioterror> asking someone to help you
[13:56] <dipilibupap> anybody please?
[13:57] <bioterror> we're trying to help you to connect to your access point with iwconfig and then take ip address with dhclient
[13:57] <bioterror> so that we get message why you cant connect
[13:57] <dipilibupap> and how do i manage that?
[13:59] <dipilibupap> ?
[14:02] <dipilibupap> ???
[14:02] <dipilibupap> anybody.. please?
[14:02] <Timo_> dipilibupap: he's discussing it with someone else, so just be a little patient. You will hear from him as soon as he has a solution
[14:02] <Timo_> you shouldn't be so impatient
[14:03] <dipilibupap> im not impatient.. just wondering if anybody is still there..
[14:03] <Timo_> Well as I can see, you are being helped by bioterror?
[14:03] <dipilibupap> yes
[14:03] <head_victim> I'm here but I've not used wireless before sorry
[14:04] <dipilibupap> but he said he had to leave
[14:04] <Timo_> I have used it before, but it worked for me
[14:04] <dipilibupap> the thing is.. i have the same prob on 2 computers..
[14:04] <dipilibupap> and only on Ubuntu
[14:04] <dipilibupap> on derived Ubuntu
[14:05] <phillw> dipilibupap: I'm very rusty on WiFi, and the two people I know who could help are not about at the moment.
[14:05] <dipilibupap> ill wait for bioterror then..
[14:05] <dipilibupap> thanks anyways
[14:08] <dipilibupap> jvais me connecter en ethernet pour essayer de voir le devicemanager
[14:08] <dipilibupap> et hardware drivers
[14:08] <dipilibupap> mais je suis la..
[14:14] <dipilibupap> ca y est je suis connecter en ethernet
[14:15] <dipilibupap> sorry
[14:15] <dipilibupap> im connected to ethernet now..
[14:16] <_audio_> dipilibupap: I don't know if I can help but would you like to try some tests?
[14:16] <dipilibupap> please.. YES
[14:17] <_audio_> dipilibupap: I don't know if sudo is required but try this...
[14:17] <_audio_> sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[14:17] <_audio_> in a terminal - what do you see?
[14:18] <dipilibupap> nothing. it brings me back to the command line
[14:18] <_audio_> try ifconfig
[14:18] <dipilibupap> yes
[14:18] <dipilibupap> done
[14:18] <dipilibupap> i see eth0 , lo , wlan0
[14:19] <_audio_> nothing else?
[14:19] <dipilibupap> yes.. there are descriptions under each one of them
[14:19] <_audio_> wlan...
[14:19] <dipilibupap> i dont have errors for eth0 and lo but i have errors for wlan0
[14:20] <dipilibupap> wlan0 gives me 43 RX packets errors and 49 TX errors
[14:20] <_audio_> OK
[14:21] <_audio_> Can you ping your router? via wifi?
[14:22] <dipilibupap> how do i try
[14:22] <dipilibupap> i disconnect ethernet and type ping google.com?
[14:22] <_audio_> do you know the ip address of your router?
[14:22] <dipilibupap> i can get it easily
[14:23] <dipilibupap> yes i have it
[14:23] <_audio_> OK ping xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[14:23] <_audio_> CTL+C to stop it.
[14:24] <dipilibupap> network is unreachable
[14:24] <_audio_> OK
[14:24] <_audio_> connect your ethernet cable
[14:24] <dipilibupap> done
[14:24] <dipilibupap> the name of my box shows up though
[14:24] <dipilibupap> but it just odesnt connect..
[14:25] <_audio_> ifconfig
[14:25] <dipilibupap> done
[14:25] <_audio_> does it show an IP address?
[14:25] <dipilibupap> under wlan0?
[14:25] <_audio_> eth0
[14:25] <dipilibupap> yes it does
[14:25] <_audio_> OK what is it?
[14:26] <dipilibupap> my ip adress?
[14:26] <_audio_> 192.168.XXX.XXX?
[14:26] <dipilibupap> yes
[14:26] <_audio_> OK
[14:27] <_audio_> now ping your router
[14:27] <dipilibupap> how do i do that?
[14:27] <_audio_> ping your router ip address as you did before
[14:27] <_audio_> CTL+C to stop it
[14:29] <dipilibupap> ok done
[14:29] <dipilibupap> what was i supposed to see?
[14:29] <dipilibupap> or what is it supposed to do?
[14:30] <dipilibupap> what about if i try downloading a package that could help?
[14:30] <dipilibupap> i heard there is an app where i can download or use.. windows drivers
[14:30] <dipilibupap> but i dont remeber the package name
[14:31] <_audio_> ndiswrapper but we dont know if you need it or have another issue.
[14:31] <dipilibupap> is it worth a try?
[14:31] <Kurdistan> dipilibupab why do you want to download windows drivers?
[14:31] <dipilibupap> i can take it off anywas..
[14:31] <dipilibupap> for my wii to work
[14:31] <dipilibupap> wifi
[14:32] <Kurdistan> dipilibupap, the wifi support in lubuntu is good.
[14:32] <Kurdistan> you can use that livecd to install windows driver if you want
[14:32] <Kurdistan> my wifi works without any problem
[14:32] <dipilibupap> there must be a reason why neither ubuntu or lubuntu wifi works..
[14:32] <Kurdistan> maybe you mean wine to install some windows appz?
[14:33] <_audio_> When you pinged your router was it successfull?
[14:33] <dipilibupap> yes it was
[14:33] <_audio_> OK lets check to see if the kernel modules are installed for your wifi adaptor.
[14:33] <dipilibupap> ok
[14:34] <dipilibupap> hwo do i do that though..
[14:34] <_audio_> System Tools->System Profiler and Benchmark
[14:35] <dipilibupap> ok
[14:35] <_audio_> Under Computer click on Kernel Modules
[14:36] <dipilibupap> ok
[14:36] <_audio_> Scroll down the right hand window looking for your wifi adaptor
[14:36] <dipilibupap> ok
[14:36] <dipilibupap> i see it
[14:37] <_audio_> what does it say?
[14:37] <dipilibupap> Ralink RT25000 PCI & PCMCIA Wireless LAN driver
[14:37] <_audio_> that looks OK
[14:38] <dipilibupap> yes it does..
[14:38] <_audio_> Left hand window click on Interfaces under Network
[14:39] <dipilibupap> ok
[14:39] <dipilibupap> lo eth0 wlan0
[14:39] <_audio_> click on eth0
[14:39] <dipilibupap> ok
[14:39] <_audio_> what does it say?
[14:40] <dipilibupap> gives me the received bytes and the sent ones
[14:40] <dipilibupap> the internet protocol
[14:40] <dipilibupap> the network adapter
[14:40] <dipilibupap> properties
[14:40] <_audio_> ip address?
[14:40] <dipilibupap> interface type hardware adress and MTU
[14:40] <_audio_> ip address and mask?
[14:41] <dipilibupap> yes.. under internet protocol
[14:41] <_audio_> OK now lets do the same for wlan0
[14:41] <_audio_> click on it
[14:41] <_audio_> what does it say?
[14:42] <dipilibupap> network adapter.. transfer details
[14:42] <dipilibupap> but doesnt give me internet protocol at all
[14:43] <_audio_> OK now we are going to disconnect the cable, stop networking then restart it.
[14:43] <dipilibupap> so i disconected the cable
[14:43] <dipilibupap> how do i restart the networking
[14:43] <_audio_> OK
[14:44] <_audio_> on the task bar right click on the 2 arrows
[14:44] <dipilibupap> where?
[14:44] <_audio_> then on disconnect
[14:44] <dipilibupap> i dont see the 2 arrows
[14:44] <_audio_> on the taskbar to the right hand side 2 arrows?
[14:44] <dipilibupap> under interfaces?
[14:45] <dipilibupap> i dont have them..
[14:45] <_audio_> Ok open a terminal
[14:45] <dipilibupap> ok
[14:45] <_audio_> sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop
[14:46] <dipilibupap> ok done
[14:46] <_audio_> what did it say?
[14:46] <dipilibupap> deconfigurinf network interfaces
[14:47] <_audio_> sudo /etc/init.d/networking start
[14:48] <dipilibupap> doesnt work..
[14:48] <dipilibupap> it says
[14:48] <dipilibupap> rather than invoking init scripts
[14:48] <dipilibupap>  use the service (8) utility
[14:49] <bioterror> sudo service networking restart
[14:49] <_audio_> thanks bioterror do you want to take over?
[14:50] <dipilibupap> unknown instance
[14:51] <dipilibupap> ?
[14:52] <_audio_> sudo service networking start
[14:53] <dipilibupap> networking stop/waiting
[14:53] <_audio_> ifconfig
[14:54] <dipilibupap> still gives me the errors
[14:55] <_audio_> does it have an ip address for wlan0
[14:55] <dipilibupap> oh no it doesnt
[14:55] <dipilibupap> it gives me RX and TX packets
[14:55] <dipilibupap> should i chek if wifi works now?
[14:55] <_audio_> wait a moment...
[14:55] <dipilibupap> ok
[14:56] <dipilibupap> ?
[14:59] <dipilibupap> what should i do next?
[15:01] <bioterror> just a moment
[15:03] <bioterror> dipilibupap, sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[15:03] <bioterror> dipilibupap, iwconfig wlan0 essid "your networks name"
[15:03] <bioterror> with ""
[15:03] <dipilibupap> how do i know my networks name?
[15:03] <bioterror> well
[15:03] <dipilibupap> the name of the box?
[15:03] <bioterror> you know where you connect
[15:04] <dipilibupap> set failed
[15:04] <bioterror> dipilibupap, oh, you must use sudo iwconfig
[15:05] <dipilibupap> operation not permitter
[15:05] <dipilibupap> ok
[15:05] <bioterror> sudo iwconfig wlan0 key s:<your wlan password>
[15:05] <bioterror> without <>
[15:05] <dipilibupap> done
[15:05] <bioterror> sudo iwconfig wlan0 channel auto
[15:05] <bioterror> sudo dhclient wlan0
[15:05] <dipilibupap> i do every one of them?
[15:06] <bioterror> yeah
[15:07] <dipilibupap> for the password
[15:07] <dipilibupap> it says error for wireless request
[15:07] <dipilibupap> invalid argument..
[15:07] <dipilibupap> im putting in my wep key
[15:07] <dipilibupap> thats the only password i have
[15:07] <bioterror> hmmm
[15:07] <dipilibupap> wep or wpa
[15:07] <dipilibupap> should i do the other commands?
[15:08] <xGrind> hi
[15:09] <dipilibupap> it does work
[15:09] <dipilibupap> it just said
[15:09] <dipilibupap> invalid argument for the :s
[15:09] <dipilibupap> so il type in the other commands now
[15:10] <dipilibupap> ok
[15:10] <dipilibupap> done
[15:10] <dipilibupap> bioterror?
[15:10] <bioterror> hahahaha
[15:10] <dipilibupap> i dont have the command line after typing dhclient
[15:10] <bioterror> tried that one
[15:10] <bioterror> and doesnt work
[15:11] <bioterror> but THAT should work
[15:11] <bioterror> becouse that's the way i do it in arch linux
[15:11] <bioterror> we have same tools
[15:11] <dipilibupap> so i should try my wifi now?
[15:11] <bioterror> welll
[15:11] <bioterror> you can
[15:12] <dipilibupap> its trying but i doubt it
[15:12] <dipilibupap> nope doesnt work
[15:12] <bioterror> $ iwlist wlan0 scan
[15:12] <dipilibupap> :(
[15:12] <bioterror> what does it say to you?
[15:13] <dipilibupap> it gives alot of info
[15:13] <dipilibupap> too much to type..
[15:13] <dipilibupap> what are you looking for?
[15:13] <bioterror> !pastebin
[15:14] <dipilibupap> pastebin?
[15:14] <bioterror> gotta mek some food
[15:14] <bioterror> bbl
[15:14] <dipilibupap> im not on the same computer
[15:14] <dipilibupap> the thing is i have lubuntu on one and chatting with you on the other
[15:15] <dipilibupap> so .. still at starting point .. no wifi :(
[15:16] <dipilibupap> ill be back later
[15:16] <dipilibupap> thank you all for your help..
[15:16] <dipilibupap> ill be abck later tongih
[15:16] <dipilibupap> tonight
[15:16] <bioterror> well
[15:16] <bioterror> just a moment
[15:16] <dipilibupap> ?
[15:17] <bioterror> is it possible that you disable the key from your wlan access point*?
[15:17] <dipilibupap> i dnt kniow how to
[15:18] <bioterror> my I can head my browser to my wlan access points ip-address
[15:19] <bioterror> like http://<IP_ADDRESS>, I dont know what's that in your network
[15:19] <dipilibupap> how do i find out my access point?
[15:19] <_audio_> dipilibupap: might be in your router.
[15:20] <dipilibupap> subnet mask? standard gateaway?
[15:20] <_audio_> do you connect to your router via a web browser? if so do that and have a look around.
[15:21] <dipilibupap> ok ....
[15:21] <dipilibupap> so the answer is no
[15:21] <dipilibupap> i cannot turn it off...
[15:22] <dipilibupap> ill be back later
[15:22] <dipilibupap> it is possible that its the key though
[15:22] <_audio_> Just out of interest do you know the make and model of your wifi adaptor?
[15:23] <bioterror> well
[15:24] <bioterror> gotta think this more
[15:24] <dipilibupap> the thing is i have problems with all ubuntu based distros
[15:24] <dipilibupap> on all computers..
[15:24] <dipilibupap> when it comes to wifi
[15:25] <_audio_> with the same adaptor?
[15:25] <bioterror> haha
[15:25] <bioterror> dipilibupap, that's becouse you're using broadcom ;)
[15:25] <bioterror> or let's say: laptops with broadcom
[15:26] <dipilibupap> how do i know im using broadcome
[15:26] <dipilibupap> is there a solution?
[15:26] <bioterror> dipilibupap, can you paste us what says "dmesg|grep wlan"
[15:26] <dipilibupap> i cant .. im using a different computer
[15:26] <bioterror> well
[15:26] <bioterror> it still would be helpfull
[15:27] <dipilibupap> what are you looking for .. i can write it here
[15:27] <bioterror> what does that say
[15:28] <bioterror> just a moment
[15:29] <dipilibupap> it says
[15:29] <bioterror> oh
[15:29] <bioterror> okay
[15:29] <bioterror> this is what I want to hear
[15:29] <dipilibupap> addrconf (netdev_up) Wlan0 in red
[15:29] <dipilibupap> link is not ready
[15:29] <bioterror> lspci
[15:29] <bioterror> and there's network controller
[15:30] <bioterror> 0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[15:30] <bioterror> I've something like that
[15:30] <dipilibupap> ive got alot of lines
[15:31] <bioterror> its easier to find solution with chipset
[15:31] <bioterror> than with your laptop model
[15:31] <dipilibupap> any other way to find out?
[15:32] <bioterror> lspci |grep Net
[15:32] <bioterror> :)
[15:33] <bioterror> bbl, gotta eat food
[15:33] <dipilibupap> Ethernet controller  VIA technologies
[15:34] <dipilibupap> inc VT6102 (RHINE-II) (rev 74)
[15:36] <dipilibupap> ?
[15:41] <dipilibupap> asy
[16:20] <_audio_> dipilibupap: are you still waiting?
[18:53] <nykur> hello hello
[18:54] <llogiq> hi folks. Out of curiosity: Why doesn't LUbuntu 10.04 come with xfce-taskman and not lxtask?
[18:54] <nykur> I'm in need of a little assistance, if anybody has the time
[18:55] <nykur> I'm growing a little tired of automatic fscks at every boot, and can't figure out what's wrong
[18:56] <nykur> pretty sure my disk is not failing, and my fstab looks quite normal
[18:56] <llogiq> nykur, Have you looked at the sixth value of the line?
[18:57] <llogiq> (in /etc/fstab) is there a "0"?
[18:57] <nykur> hang on, let me check again, don't remember...
[18:59] <llogiq> Sure. Just to rule out the obvious possibilities.
[19:01] <nykur> llogiq there are only four lines, do you want to see it?
[19:02] <nykur> last line says: errors=remount-ro 0       1
[19:02] <bioterror> 0 0
[19:03] <llogiq> This is ok. The fifth and sixth fields of the fstabs are usually optional and default to 0.
[19:03] <bioterror> I have 0 1
[19:03] <nykur> these fscks started to happen after an update a few weeks ago
[19:03] <llogiq> bioterror, then your fs will probably be fsckd.
[19:03] <llogiq> :-)
[19:03] <bioterror> I hdd will be fcukd ;)
[19:04] <nykur> I have tried running a fsck myself from live cd, and at next boot no file check. But every time since that
[19:05] <bioterror> it might be that in shutdown or reboot, that drive doesnt get umounted properly or something
[19:05] <bioterror> hard to say
[19:05] <nykur> and now there is a flash screen saying something about broken pipe. but my system works normally, and the ssd has passed every fsck with flying colours
[19:06] <nykur> anyone?
[19:08] <llogiq> Can you change the line to 0 0, as bioterror said? If the field is 1, then it will be checked at boot time.
[19:08]  * llogiq just man fstab
[19:10] <nykur> will do and try, thanks for the tip:-)
[19:13] <cylob> i just installed lubuntu for the first time, and my sound isnt working
[19:15] <cylob> which sucks cause ubuntu was a little slow for my taste
[19:17] <llogiq> cylob: 10.10 or 10.04?
[19:34] <llogiq> cylob, and what audio hardware do you have?
[19:41] <llogiq> brb (and as always reading logs)
[19:53] <ghostnik11> hi i want to increase the number of desktops to 4 instead of the standard 2 in lubuntu 10.10 but i can't find out how
[19:54] <llogiq> ghostnik11, look in the openbox configuration manager. It has a desktop tab.
[19:54] <ghostnik11> llogiq, thanks
[19:55] <llogiq> np
[19:55] <ghostnik11> llogiq, nothing comes up when i select it
[19:56] <llogiq> ghostnik11, can you type obconf into a shell and tell us what happens?
[19:57] <llogiq> My lxpanel menu seems to be stuck. I just installed lxtask and got rid of xfce4-taskmanager, but the latter still shows up in the menu.
[19:57] <ghostnik11> now it showed up, don't get it, how come it didn't come up when i selected it
[19:58] <llogiq> No idea, really. Maybe you, too, have a menu problem. ;)
[19:59] <ghostnik11> okay
[19:59] <ghostnik11> how would i go about correct that
[20:00] <ghostnik11> llogiq: thanks i have 4 desktops now
[20:01] <llogiq> no idea yet-I'm looking into it.
[20:03] <Jan___> Hi all, I just installed lubuntu next to win xp. In the beginning everything was fine. but now XP doesn't show up in the boot menu. How can I fix this?
[20:05] <ghostnik11> jan___: you have to fix grub or menulist or something like that, i had same problem yesterday and was helped out by someone in ubuntu channel
[20:05] <bioterror> jan sudo apt-get install os-prober
[20:05] <bioterror> Jan___, sudo os-prober
[20:05] <bioterror> Jan___, sudo grub-update
[20:06] <llogiq> I was going to say that :-)
[20:09] <Jan___> Thanks a lot!
[20:10] <bioterror> np
[20:10] <llogiq> ghostnik11, for me "rm -rf .cache/menus && lxpanelctl restart
[20:10] <llogiq> helped
[20:10] <bioterror> :D
[20:11] <cylob> llogiq: sorry im back. how do i find out what my audio hardware is?
[20:11] <llogiq> this resets the menu cache.
[20:11] <llogiq> lspci
[20:11] <bioterror> cylob, lspci |grep Audio
[20:11] <bioterror> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[20:12] <cylob> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[20:12] <bioterror> :)
[20:12] <ghostnik11> llogiq: thats all you had to do in terminal to get it menus working
[20:12] <llogiq> Yep.
[20:12] <ghostnik11> thanks will try right now
[20:12] <cylob> but why is the audio not working? i can adjust the volume. it never gave an error.
[20:13] <bioterror> well
[20:13] <bioterror> you have speaker/headset jack in the green socket?-)
[20:13] <cylob> yep
[20:13] <cylob> it was workin fine on kubuntu
[20:13] <cylob> this mornin
[20:14] <bioterror> nothing should be changed
[20:14] <bioterror> what does alsamixer say
[20:14] <cylob> it looks like a bunch of volume controls
[20:14] <cylob> it brings that up
[20:17] <llogiq> Is something muted? (alsamixer shows MM)
[20:17] <ghostnik11> llogiq: i run the two commands and my 4 desktops are gone and i am down to 1
[20:18] <ghostnik11> llogiq; i am going to restart my system and see if they come back
[20:18] <cylob> i dont see an MM
[20:18] <cylob> oh wait
[20:19] <cylob> front mic, surround, center, lfe, line, mic
[20:19] <cylob> those are muted
[20:20] <bioterror> master's and pcm are not?
[20:20] <llogiq> ok, these are all inputs. All but surround...
[20:20] <cylob> nope
[20:21] <llogiq> Maybe unmute surround, center, lfe, just to be sure?
[20:21] <cylob> maybe i messed something up trying to install "radio tray" earlier, and then found out it wouldnt work due to "missing gstreamer plugins"
[20:21] <cylob> im just gonna reinstall lubuntu
[20:22] <bioterror> :D
[20:22] <bioterror> I'm just upgrading a fresh installation
[20:23] <cylob> yeah it seems pretty nice
[20:23] <cylob> just wish my sound would work
[20:24] <cylob> maybe is hould go with xubuntu but im thinking its not as fast
[20:26] <ghostnik11> okay so i found out that when i try and select openbox, it takes dow my windows and leaves only one shown but the 4 are still there as when i use alt + ctrl+ left/right i go to the different desktops
[20:27] <cousteau`irssi> ok... I wonder where my webcam went, it has just disappeared
[20:28] <llogiq> ghostnik11, that's how desktops work.
[20:29] <llogiq> You can configure openbox to do about everything to windows regarding desktop.
[20:29] <llogiq> cousteau`irssi, is this a lubuntu issue or a "why, somebody stole my webcam issue"? :-)
[20:32] <llogiq> cu folks.
[20:32] <ghostnik11> llogiq, well it is okay as long as i have them, there are still some stuff i want to try and change like better wallpaper and them and apperance
[21:09] <cylob> reinstalling lubuntu fixed my sound!
[21:09] <cylob> dunno how i broke it earlier
[21:09] <cylob> maybe by trying to update gstreamer
[21:09] <bioterror> :D
[21:10] <bioterror> there's nothing like a fresh start
[21:10] <cylob> yup yup
[21:10] <cylob> now to install banshee
[21:11] <bioterror> noooo
[21:11] <bioterror> moc ! ;D
[21:11] <cylob> what is moc
[21:11] <bioterror> Music on Console
[21:11] <bioterror> :D
[21:11] <cylob> youre kidding rihgt?
[21:11] <bioterror> how so
[21:11] <bioterror> I use it
[21:12] <cylob> why would you use a console app for music
[21:12] <cylob> i generally avoid the console whenever i can
[21:12] <bioterror> becouse it's handy, fast and doesn take too much space and resources
[21:12] <cylob> does moc do internet radio streams?
[21:13] <Goodgame> bioterror, come on, you're really using a console app for music?
[21:13] <bioterror> for sure
[21:13] <cylob> i have to restart for the updates....
[21:14] <Goodgame> bioterror, has to be very well done, because it's not ergonomic for this
[21:14] <bioterror> http://ubuntuforums.org/picture.php?albumid=2074&pictureid=6915
[21:14] <bioterror> I can try to find the original file :D
[21:15] <Goodgame> using linux mint?
[21:15] <bioterror> http://ricecows.org/linux_mint_9.png
[21:15] <bioterror> Goodgame, as my desktop, yes
[21:23] <ghostnik11> quick question can use gdm themes in lubuntu
[21:25] <Goodgame> "try it"
[21:25] <Goodgame> "and tell me after"
[21:26] <ghostnik11> okay
[21:32] <ghostnik11> it won't let me select the gdm theme, it only will let me select openbox theme archives
[21:32] <dipilibupap> bioterror , Hello again!
[21:33] <dipilibupap> can anyone in here help me with my wifi please?
[21:33] <dipilibupap> under Lubuntu 10.10
[21:33] <ghostnik11> goodgame: it won't let me
[21:34] <Goodgame> ghostnik11, ok, thanks for the information
[21:34] <dipilibupap> ? anyone.. please?
[21:35] <Goodgame> dipilibupap, you've searched in the documentation, because each wifi card is different and it's very unlikely that you could find someone here with the same as you
[21:35] <dipilibupap> the lubuntu doc
[21:35] <dipilibupap> ?
[21:36] <dipilibupap> i spent 2 hours and a half trying to fix lubuntu with a few members on this afternoon
[21:36] <cylob> ok, i installed banshee, and now my sound stopped working
[21:36] <Goodgame> dipilibupap, lubuntu, ubuntu, kubuntu it's quite the same, you can try to find on every doc
[21:36] <Goodgame> even debian
[21:36] <dipilibupap> i tried ubuntu on my sony.. wifi doesnt work.. i try lubuntu on my fujitsu.. doesnt work
[21:37] <dipilibupap> it seems as if every ubuntu based distro doesnt work for me
[21:38] <cylob> im gonna reinstall lubuntu again, and try this deadbeef program
[21:38] <cylob> for music
[21:41] <ghostnik11> okay i am having problems getting install new theme to work, i just downloaded the dyne theme for open box and extracted it in my downloads folder when i go to install new theme in open box i go to dyne folder and see nothing
[21:43] <ghostnik11> now i am getting that it is an invalid theme
[22:05] <ghostnik11> another question can i run gnome utilities in lubuntu
[22:08] <ghostnik11> it works


[01:36] <lamont> NCommander: sure
[01:36] <lamont> j6700 - so 32 or 64-bit kernel is fine
[01:37] <lamont> UP or SMP
[01:37] <lamont> ideal test victim.
[01:37] <lamont> OTOH, the other test machine is a B180, which needs 32-bit, and is UP
[01:37] <NCommander> lamont, we have both hppa32 and 64 kernels :-)
[01:38] <NCommander> lamont, the current packages are in my PPA built for HPPA (I haven't asked for a sponsor upload, because the last rebase broke the SPARC build :-/)
[01:52] <lamont> "my ppa" == where?
[02:04] <NCommander> lamont, https://edge.launchpad.net/~mcasadevall/+archive/ppa
[20:26]  * NCommander wakes up and feels goodish


[09:46] <dhananjay_> Can anyone point me to a document which explain how process states are managed in upstart? Things like how do assert process is stoppped properly, it has started etc..
[09:47] <dhananjay_> I read somewhere that systemd uses cgroups, but here http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/Cgroup?highlight=%28%28CategorySpec%29%29 It states upstart does it diffrent.
[17:52] <Mariano9> xnox:
[17:57] <marianogg9> xnox:


  Say it ain't so!
[18:48] <Scary_Guy> That's half the fun of linux looking at forums from 5 years ago and they either don't answer the question, or the answer was deleted, or "I figured it out!"  From 4 years ago..most dont apply to modern software.
[21:27] <jrwren> yup, lots of bad info out there.
[21:38] <cmaloney> Yeah, I've had to put the modifier for recent info
[21:39] <cmaloney> STack Overflow also has 10 years of stuff on it, which is not helpful for Django stuff
[23:12] <cmaloney> https://meet.jit.si/CoffeeHouseCodersRoyalOak20200325


[06:54] <stub> cjwatson: Its a standard lp command line script, so it supports putting debug and higher messages into a log file while keeping stdout cleaner (INFO+ or WARNING+ generally)
[13:36] <cgregan> Hey Launchpad team! I have a Canonical internal project that was created as a public effort but now we need to put the binary behind some permissions. Is it possible to change a team PPA from public to private?
[13:38] <czajkowski> cgregan: mail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>as it creates a Rt for wgrant and StevenK
[13:38] <czajkowski> who are hopefully asleep right now but you never know :)
[13:38] <cgregan> thanks czajkowski will do
[13:41] <cjwatson> cgregan: No, it's not possible to change the privacy of a PPA once it's had sources published to it.
[13:42] <cgregan> cjwatson: I thought so
[13:42] <cgregan> but was not sure
[15:49] <shadeslayer> I seem to be getting a oops on a specific recipe page
[15:49] <shadeslayer> 152d2c57ce3b2ca52fbb6e61ff52377c
[15:49] <shadeslayer> erm
[15:49] <shadeslayer> OOPS-152d2c57ce3b2ca52fbb6e61ff52377c
[15:50] <shadeslayer> https://code.launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+recipe/homerun-kicker-daily
[15:51] <shadeslayer> odd
[15:51] <shadeslayer> where did my recipe go
[15:51] <shadeslayer> seems like Launchpad ate it
[18:06] <czajkowski> shadeslayer: best to file a bug on LP with the oops id or see if it exists alread
[18:06] <czajkowski> *already
[18:06] <shadeslayer> czajkowski: I /think/ I know what happened
[21:22] <saiarcot895> Is there any chance an Apport package hook will get through a FFe?
[21:26] <saiarcot895> More specifically, is there any chance an Apport package hook addition to an existing Ubuntu package will get through a FFe?
[21:27] <cjwatson> #launchpad has no input into FFes
[21:27] <saiarcot895> #ubuntu-dev ?
[21:27] <cjwatson> #ubuntu-release; but I can save you time, there's a decent chance yes
[21:28] <saiarcot895> Interesting, ok