[21:04] <ubuntutlups> after that ?
[21:04] <spuddys> stefg i want it in my 50GB drive
[21:04] <spuddys> not in my filesystem
[21:04] <Gnea> spuddys: wherever it's mounted to, yes
[21:05] <sebastian_> hi, i have a problem with my extern drive, i have 3 diffrent maps, im /media of the same drive, how do i remove them?
[21:05] <stefg> spuddys: we'll get there
[21:05] <spuddys> so just drag it
[21:05] <sebastian_> in'
[21:05] <spuddys> so just install it onto filesystem now
[21:05] <spuddys> and then move it to extra?
[21:05] <Gnea> spuddys: you could tell the extra filesystem to be your /home partition
[21:05] <spuddys> but that would not mess with my booting?
[21:06] <Gnea> linux doesn't care where /home is, as long as it exists :)
[21:06] <spuddys> ok
[21:06] <spuddys> Can you give me the command :D
[21:06] <stefg> spuddys: why take the hard way? just let winecfg set up the dir. take it then, put it where you want it
[21:06] <Gnea> it's more than 1 command - it's a procedure ;)
[21:06] <sebastian_> hi, i have a problem with my extern drive, i have 3 diffrent maps, im /media of the same drive, how do i remove them?
[21:06] <spuddys> ok
[21:06] <spuddys> well Stefg can you PM or say the easy way please :D
[21:06] <DuKeS> hey guys im on the live cd for hardy heron. I wanted to dual boot xp + ubuntu but when it starts up the partitioner i'm only given two options...guided entire disk or manual. I thought that there was a third option where it let you resize the HDD and decide how much you want for each OS. BTW i already for XP installed, just wanted to resize it 40/60 XP/Linux
[21:07] <stefg> spuddys: I#M afraid that is already the easy way :-)
[21:07] <spuddys> well
[21:07] <Gnea> spuddys: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/  you'll obviously have to change some things there that are tailored to your system
[21:07] <spuddys> so
[21:07] <spuddys> mkdir /mnt the mnt is the extra
[21:07] <spuddys> so i type
[21:07] <spuddys> mkdir /extra/newhome
[21:07] <spuddys> yes?
[21:07] <ubuntutlups> stephenF it gives me this
[21:07] <ubuntutlups> md5sum: ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso: No such file or directory
[21:08] <ozzloy> when i plug my camera in, f-spot takes it over and downloads images from it.  but i don't see it mounted anywhere.  how do i find where it is mounted?  how do i use the camera as a storage device?
[21:08] <ubuntutlups> lobsang@lobsang-desktop:~$ md5sum ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[21:08] <sebastian_> hi, i have a problem with my extern drive, i have 3 diffrent maps, im /media of the same drive, how do i remove them?
[21:08] <Gnea> ozzloy: most usb cameras don't mount, but use f-spot to talk to them through usblib - it just isn't possible to mount them
[21:09] <Timberwolf5578> Can someone tell me how to make the entire bar on the bottom of my desktop transparent?  When I choose transparent, only part of it becomes transparent.
[21:09] <spuddys> mount: /media/extra is not a block device
[21:09] <guntbert> ubuntutlups: you must go to the directory where you downloaded your iso to
[21:09] <ozzloy> Gnea: so is there a way i can use the camera as a storage device?
[21:09] <Gnea> ozzloy: or actually, there is - you can choose the behavior
[21:09] <stefg> spuddys: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#Mounting%20partitions%20manually
[21:09] <bobertdos> DuKeS: Well, if it's not there, you could either go into manual and resize it yourself or, as long as you're in a live session anyway, install gparted and see if you can resize the partition separately before you install.
[21:09] <ozzloy> Gnea: where is this choice?
[21:09] <venome> Timberwolf5578: depents on what shortcuts, gadgets, etc. you've put on int
[21:10] <stojaki> krstarica
[21:10] <lostogre> Hi!
[21:10] <venome> Timberwolf5578: only the bar itself becomes transparent, not the gadgets, shortcuts, etc ...
[21:10] <spuddys> stefg can i PM you please?
[21:10] <Timberwolf5578> I am using Mint default.
[21:10] <lostogre> Anyone know how to open up tcp port 6000 on ubuntu?
[21:10] <Timberwolf5578> So there is no way to make it all transparent?
[21:10] <Gnea> ozzloy: when you plug the camera in
[21:10] <ubuntutlups> gunbert i first did  sudo pwd and got the path then i did cd /home/username/Desktop and got to the desktop then i did md5sum ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[21:10] <_Zeus_> !info firestarter | lostogre
[21:10] <ubuntutlups> and says that the file does not exist
[21:11] <DuKeS> i dont feel comfortable resizing it myself because windows is already on the Hdd so i dont want to mess it up...how do i install gparted and btw will it install even though im on the live cd?
[21:11] <sebastian_> hi, i have a problem with my extern drive, i have 3 diffrent maps, im /media of the same drive, how do i remove them?
[21:11] <spuddys> stefg are you there?
[21:11] <ozzloy> Gnea: i am not getting that choice
[21:11] <ozzloy> Gnea: i must have said "always use f-spot" at some point.  how do i undo that?
[21:12] <guntbert> ubuntutlups: try it step by step: where did you download your iso to?
[21:12] <Minty95> Go to Settings>Autostarted Applications:  where is this found ??
[21:12] <ubuntutlups> i did downloaded into de desktop
[21:12] <anakln> Hello all, can anyone tell me how to configure  the subtitles in mplayer so that different contexts in the video (esp. anime) preserves different styles?
[21:13] <ubuntutlups> can we Private message gunbert for a few minutes..
[21:13] <bobertdos> DuKeS: Everything will install just fine in a live session as long as you have enough RAM. Just go into a terminal and type: sudo apt-get install gparted or find it in Synaptic.
[21:13] <anakln> I don't even know what to google for in order to get that done.
[21:13] <ubuntutlups> i wont bother you for long time.. just a quick consult.
[21:13] <guntbert> !who | ubuntutlups
[21:13] <lostogre> _Zeus_, is that all there is to it? I know that gdm shuts down access by default. You have to change an option. Which I have already done.
[21:13] <ozzloy> Gnea: i found it, it's in nautilus
[21:13] <guntbert> ubuntutlups: I'd rather do it in the channel
[21:13] <DuKeS> bobertdos: according to synaptec gparted is already installed
[21:13] <Gnea> ozzloy: i was looking it up - cool, where was it again?
[21:13] <ubuntutlups> ok.
[21:14] <stefg> spuddys: so what is that other drive and ist it already formatted and partitioned?
[21:14] <ubuntutlups> i did this.
[21:14] <spuddys> yes
[21:14] <spuddys> It has 50GB
[21:14] <thebinz> l
[21:14] <spuddys> empty
[21:14] <bobertdos> DuKeS: Ah, good, then it will be under System->Administration->Partition Editor.
[21:14] <stefg> spuddys: so does it show on the desktop or in the MY Computer view ?
[21:14] <spuddys> yes
[21:14] <sebastian_> hi, i noticed that in my /media directory i have 3 maps that is namned: EXTERNDISK and EXTERN DISK and EXTERN DISK_ .... and every map contains different files, why is it like this?
[21:14] <zubwolf_> danbh_intrepid, i read the informations on the motu website, but couldnt find an answer to this problem
[21:15] <guntbert> ubuntutlups: please write my nick, when you talk to me, its easier for me to see your response, use gun and then <TAB>
[21:15] <ozzloy> Gnea: actually never mind, it didn't work
[21:15] <Gnea> ozzloy: oh wait, found it: open nautilus, click on edit->preferences->media->Photos
[21:15] <DuKeS> bobertdos: yes found it...but it looks just like the manual option from the live cd lol how do i create a partition without affecting windows through gparted?
[21:15] <Gnea> ozzloy: did you change it while the camera was plugged in or not plugged in?
[21:15] <ozzloy> Gnea: yeah, that's not working for me
[21:15] <spuddys> Stefg - yes its in computer
[21:15] <ozzloy> i changed it, unplugged and replugged
[21:16] <stefg> spuddys: so you know what device that is? Like dev/sdb1 or similar?
[21:16] <ozzloy> still opens fspot
[21:16] <Gnea> try unplug, change it back, then change it to 'open folder' again, then plug it in
[21:16] <spuddys> /media/extra
[21:16] <zubwolf_> hi, i'm using ubuntu hardy(2.6.24-19-generic), while trying to create an ubuntu package in a pbuilder chail everything seems fine, dh_make finishes clean, "pbuilder create *.dsc" does fine, but "sudo pbuilder build *.dsc" finishes with "Tcl cannot be found on this system.", seems like "pbuilder create" doesn't care about the tcl-dependency
[21:16] <guntbert> ubuntutlups: now please type "ls -l ubuntu*"
[21:16] <ohgodnotanother1> I am fidling around with an ATI radeon driver on ubuntu. can someone tell me how to check about "POSIX Shared Memory (/dev/shm) support" on my system?
[21:16] <zubwolf_> any idea about what i can do to get this build done would be really apreciated
[21:16] <spuddys> ste-fg /media/extra
[21:17] <stefg> spuddys: that is the mount point. Does it get automounted there?
[21:17] <spuddys> stefg - I believe so yes
[21:17] <ubuntutlups> ls: ubuntu*: No such file or directory
[21:17] <ubuntutlups> sudo pwd ( result  : home/lobsang
[21:17] <ubuntutlups> my .iso is in desktop
[21:17] <DuKeS> bobertdos: hmm for some reason it doesn't give me any options once i right click on the hdd. It does tell me that 23% is being used and 77 is free but the options to create new partitions or resize/move are grayed out
[21:18] <stefg> spuddys: so someone helped you to prepare the drive already ? Or it came preformatted ?
[21:18] <spuddys> Stefg - Sombody helped me gena helped
[21:18] <Babbleback> gnea, how can i let the thing finish if i kill it with control-C and when would i see en_AU.UTF-8
[21:18] <bobertdos> DuKeS: Look for ntfsprogs in Synaptic. See if it's already installed.
[21:18] <guntbert> ubuntutlups: so you are in the wrong directory, no need for sudo in this case; please type "cd ~/Desktop"
[21:18] <spuddys> stefg - Gnea sorry
[21:19] <ubuntutlups> right im there..
[21:19] <guntbert> ubuntutlups: please write my nick, when you talk to me, its easier for me to see your response, use gun and then <TAB>
[21:19] <DarwinS-Sup-eus-> hey ppl, how do I force a kernel upgrade?
[21:19] <ubuntutlups> gun ?
[21:19] <stefg> spuddys: i see...  it would help me if you could show me your /etc/fstab and 'sudo fdisk -l' output. see /topic for a place to paste that info.
[21:19] <DuKeS> bobertdos: yeah its installed
[21:19] <Gnea> Babbleback: you just press ctrl-c whenever you see the en_AU.UTF-8... (which is usually when it hangs and you won't see the HDD led blinking)
[21:20] <spuddys> Stefg
[21:20] <spuddys> http://pastebin.com/m677a415a
[21:20] <guntbert> ubuntutlups: ok that didn't work :(, so please type my nick, or else I might overlook your response :)
[21:20] <spuddys> BRB Stefg two secs
[21:20] <ohgodnotanother1> if I enter "tmpfs       /dev/shm        tmpfs   defaults        0 0" into /etc/fstab. where does it get mounted?
[21:20] <ubuntutlups> gunbert lobsang@lobsang-desktop:~/Desktop$ md5sum ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[21:20] <ubuntutlups> 6b941a0d5d7e62d52d4919a0e7881536  ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[21:20] <ubuntutlups> lobsang@lobsang-desktop:~/Desktop$
[21:20] <Gnea> Babbleback: the problem is that the new kernel version isn't actually loaded up, and to generate the locales, it's required. they can always be regenerated upon reboot
[21:21] <ozzloy> Gnea: i've tried many different combos, including the one you suggested.  f-spot steals it every time
[21:21] <ozzloy> no matter what
[21:21] <stefg> spuddys:good,  so run 'cat /etc/fstab' and paste that, too
[21:21] <bobertdos> DuKeS: Go into a terminal and type: sudo mount. Make sure your ntfs partition isn't listed there, and if it is, what's the device path (/dev/<something?)
[21:21] <ozzloy> f-spot must die!
[21:21] <Gnea> lol
[21:21] <ozzloy> even though it's usually what i want
[21:21]  * stefg agrees
[21:21] <ubuntutlups> guntbert is the right one ? how do i check is the one
[21:21] <bin1010> anyone know how to sense if a USB flash drive is plugged into the USB but not mounted yet from C program?
[21:21]  * bobertdos also agrees
[21:21] <dido> hello.how to install virtual box on Ubuntu 8.04?
[21:22] <spuddys> stefg http://pastebin.com/m19d4d2ec
[21:22] <Timberwolf5578> Can someone tell me which effect in Compiz opens all your windows at once on the screen?
[21:22] <Gnea> ozzloy: try this for good measure then - make sure you've got a clean desktop with no other applications running (so you can see the icons on the desktop) - then plug the camera in - when f-spot takes it over, kill f-spot and see if there's a new icon on the desktop (you may have to clean it) and see if that connects to the camera
[21:22] <Gnea> !compiz | Timberwolf5578
[21:22] <stefg> spuddys: ok.. now i know. it won't get aoutomounted, and ntfs is a very unclever choice for a filesystem in linux
[21:22] <J-n> !virtualbox | dido
[21:22] <guntbert> ubuntutlups: now you look on the ubuntu-website and compare the checksum to that of your file
[21:23] <DuKeS> bobertdos: the only /dev/ entry i see is "/dev/sda1 on /media/disk type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096)"
[21:23] <Mike231> hi, I just installed ubuntu using WUBI this morning, and been doing well, except I can't get it to recognize my sound card. (Creative X-Fi Xtremegamer). I downloaded the beta drivers in the tar.gz form, but the package manager won't touch it. I tried extracting that, and found a tar.gz2 inside, but the package manager won't do anything with that either. Anyone have some advice/experience with this?
[21:23] <megasquid_> can anyone help me troubleshoot why xrandr doesn't detect my external monitor when im using fgxlr drivers on ubuntu 8.04?
[21:23] <guntbert> !md5sum | ubuntutlups
[21:23] <spuddys> stefg - So i will just mount it everytime i load then?
[21:23] <J-n> dido: go for the non-free, there seems to be some usb issues in the free version... if i'm not mistaken.
[21:23] <stefg> spuddys: that 50G drive is fixed, not an external drive, is it?
[21:23] <DarwinS-Sup-eus-> hey ppl, how do I force a kernel upgrade? my screen flashes when the system beeps
[21:23] <spuddys> Fixed
[21:23] <spuddys> i have another external
[21:23] <spuddys> 80GB
[21:23] <megasquid_> can anyone help me troubleshoot why xrandr doesn't detect my external monitor when im using fgxlr drivers on ubuntu 8.04?
[21:24] <spuddys> 80.0GB Media - CD-RW/DVR+RW Drive - Extra - Filesystem
[21:24] <ubuntutlups> ubottu im reading that page...
[21:24] <stefg> spuddys: fine... so we should reformat it to a proper filesystem and set up a proper fstab entry first
[21:24] <bobertdos> DuKeS: That's what I thought. The live session mounted your ntfs partition automatically. That's why the wizard doesn't give you the resize option. Type: sudo umount /dev/sda1
[21:24] <DarwinS-Sup-eus-> also how do I load the system volume
[21:24] <spuddys> I cant format my whole pc
[21:24] <stefg> spuddys: no, just the 50 G drive (i understand that it is empty)
[21:24] <bobertdos> DuKeS: Make sure the wizard and gparted are closed first.
[21:24] <kevinO> DarwinS-Sup-eus-, why is your system beeping?
[21:25] <Ergo^> evening
[21:25] <spuddys> yes but it is a virtual drive from my main 200GB
[21:25] <rsp> is there a math game but not like tuxmath
[21:25] <ozzloy> Gnea: no, it doesn't create an icon on the desktop for the camera
[21:25] <Ergo^> i had to unmount cdrom with wine eject , to swap cds for game installation
[21:25] <Babbleback> Gnea, you are responding to the inability to upgrade to 8.04 then right? doesn't apply to the flashplugin-nonfree problem other than I shouldn't have the problem in 8.04 correct?
[21:25] <DuKeS> bobertdos: ok did that
[21:25] <Ergo^> now a stupid question how to correctly mount the cd again ?
[21:25] <DarwinS-Sup-eus-> kevinO, it beeps as normal in every ubuntu os it just makes my screen flash
[21:25] <jim_p> goodnight guys
[21:25] <DuKeS> bobertdos: do i try the install option again now?
[21:26] <bobertdos> DuKeS: yes :)
[21:26] <Cosmo-san> hey guys, how do I get rid of the search highlighting in gedit?
[21:26] <kevinO> DarwinS-Sup-eus-, mine only beeps in xchat cause i set it to do so, so i guess i cant help you
[21:26] <DuKeS> bobertdos: kk...give me a sec
[21:26] <kevinO> :|
[21:26] <spuddys> stefg - yes but it is a virtual drive from my main 200GB
[21:26] <Cosmo-san> I searched for a few words a while back, but the highlighting just won't go away~
[21:26] <megasquid_> can anyone help me troubleshoot why xrandr doesn't detect my external monitor when im using fglrx drivers on ubuntu 8.04?
[21:26] <ubuntutlups> 6b941a0d5d7e62d52d4919a0e7881536  thats my key
[21:26] <kevinO> DarwinS-Sup-eus-, just ask again in a few minutes or so and someone may know how to help you then
[21:27] <stefg> spuddys: so you are running a wubi-install of ubuntu?
[21:27] <DarwinS-Sup-eus-> kevinO, that's one of the times it beeps, as well as too many bckspaces
[21:27] <spuddys> yes
[21:27] <Gnea> Babbleback: once you have upgraded to 8.04, then the problem with the flashplugin-nonfree will simply disappear
[21:27] <stefg> spuddys: ahhhhh, now i understand
[21:27] <ohgodnotanother1> still need help with my ati driver. anyone here who could help?
[21:27] <Gnea> ozzloy: ugh...
[21:27] <spuddys> :D
[21:27] <guntbert> ubuntutlups: did you see: the checksum for you file seems to be different from that on the page - so your file is damaged, download it again and check it BEFORE burning
[21:27] <DarwinS-Sup-eus-> thanks kevinO
[21:27] <ubuntutlups> thanks
[21:28] <arooni-mobile> question:  how well do dell machines (either ubuntu or windows ones) work with linux?  are they generally good?
[21:28] <ubuntutlups> is there a way to download it from a torrent o amule...
[21:28] <Gnea> arooni-mobile: they tend to work just fine.  http://www.dell.com/linux  they have several up there that they endorse.
[21:28] <kevinO> DarwinS-Sup-eus-,  i think its a setting, take a look at this thread, it doesnt offer any explanation, but now you know a bit more.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=480844
[21:28] <DuKeS> bobertdos: ahh great! that worked! now it allows me to resize! :D thanx so much
[21:28] <J-n> arooni-mobile: I had no problems with ubuntu and dell.
[21:28] <stefg> spuddys: to tell you the truth: forget that with wubi. do a proper install on a separate partition. performance will be anything but stellar with wubi
[21:28] <spuddys> I cant
[21:28] <bobertdos> DuKeS: my pleasure
[21:28] <spuddys> it wont let me
[21:28] <ozzloy> Gnea: alternately, you could help me get networking working on this computer?
[21:29] <ubuntutlups> What is alternate desktop ?
[21:29] <spuddys> Is there anyway i can do it on this
[21:29] <ozzloy> not the one i'm typing on now, heh
[21:29] <ubuntutlups> is a better version ? o whut ?
[21:29] <Gnea> ozzloy: maybe, i only have a few minutes left. it'd help if i knew what the problem was, too. :)
[21:29] <kevinO> ubuntutlups, no lice desktop
[21:29] <kevinO> live*
[21:29] <ozzloy> Gnea: i just tried plugging the camera into a different computer, same behavior
[21:29] <hsn-> hello everyone, i'm planning to install ubuntu on my laptop (toshiba a200-1j3) - what do you suggest 64bit or 32bit?
[21:29] <ubuntutlups> lice ?
[21:29] <ozzloy> Gnea: oh, well then let me thank you for your time
[21:29] <Gnea> !alternate | ubuntutlups
[21:29] <myke> how do i get emacs bindings in firefox?  editing .gtkrc-2.0 seems to have no effect
[21:30] <kevinO> ubuntutlups, i think your referring to the ubuntu alternate cd which doesnt include the live desktop ability
[21:30] <Gnea> ozzloy: cheers, and good luck
[21:30] <ozzloy> Gnea: thanks!
[21:30] <bobertdos> hsn-: Well, do you have a 64-bit system? How much RAM?
[21:30] <megasquid_> can anyone help me troubleshoot why xrandr doesn't detect my external monitor when im using fglrx drivers on ubuntu 8.04?
[21:30] <kevinO> Gnea you beat me to it :)
[21:30] <ubuntutlups> mmmm.. i want to install my Ubuntu 8.0.4 from a torrent
[21:30] <spuddys> Stefg can i still do it on this?
[21:30] <hsn-> bobertdos: yes it is a 64bit sys (intel c2duo t7500 @2.2ghz with 2gb ram)
[21:30] <Sapient> I just tried to compress a 16GB text file and it turned it into a 17GB text file...  gzip -S .gz errors.log
[21:30] <stefg> spuddys: so you can't take a backup of the drive and restore to a smaller partition on the 200G drive?
[21:30] <kevinO> ubuntutlups, you have a slow connection?
[21:30] <spuddys> Nope
[21:31] <spuddys> because of my other OS Windblows i cant
[21:31] <spuddys> i need windows for other things
[21:31] <DasEi> ohgodnotanother1: tmpfs < whats that ?? a device ???
[21:31] <stefg> spuddys: and leave  50G space free for use with ubuntu?
[21:31] <ubuntutlups> mmm sort of
[21:31] <spuddys> i tryed that
[21:31] <Nutzebahn> Debcreator is telling me that it is unable to detect the top source directory in my Megatunix archive, I am using Ubuntu 8.04, help?
[21:31] <ubuntutlups> i need to wait like  6 hours
[21:31] <kevinO> ubuntutlups, then you might prefer the torrent it will ensure you get a complete and working image file
[21:32] <spuddys> Stefg - Is it possible on this though if so how?
[21:32] <stefg> spuddys: you can have dual boot. But understand that wubi is for eval. purposes only. Advanced things need a proper install
[21:32] <bobertdos> hsn-: Well, since you only have 2 gigs of RAM, I'd just make life easier and stick with 32-bit. Some software and hardware support gets really messy with 64-bit.
[21:32] <kevinO> ubuntulog, and download the alternatecd if you want a smaller dl size
[21:32] <kevinO> ubuntut but you wont have live desktop
[21:32] <ubuntutlups> kevinO where can i donwload the oficial torrent  ?
[21:32] <kevinO> which i have only used once
[21:32] <J-n> spuddys: I dual boot Ubuntu and Windows XP (don't use XP much tho) My friend can boot Vista, XP and Ubuntu.
[21:32] <ubuntutlups> from the oficial ubuntu site...
[21:32] <hsn-> bobertdos: thx, i'll download it now.. i've heard that it has problem with the audio/wifi (on a toshiba laptop) is it true? if so how can i fix it
[21:32] <kevinO> !alternate
[21:33] <kevinO> at the bottom there....
[21:33] <stefg> spuddys: it is possible, but too dangerous.
[21:33] <spuddys> DAngeous in messing ubuntu
[21:33] <spuddys> or whole pc
[21:33] <ubuntutlups> Alternate.. ?
[21:33] <stefg> spuddys: whole pc
[21:33] <spuddys> ok
[21:33] <kevinO> ubuntutlups, youll also need a torrent manager, are you running windows or linux?
[21:33] <ubuntutlups> if i burn the alternate CD i will just get the boot option ?
[21:33] <DuKeS> bobertdos: another question...once i install ubuntu...will i be able to access my folders from windows? i ask because i don't want to import my music again rather just play it from its current location (same with videos)
[21:33] <ubuntutlups> im using Linux
[21:33] <ubuntutlups> i got Azerous
[21:34] <kevinO> ubuntutlups, yes that is the laternate, you can see it in the filename
[21:34] <kevinO> ok
[21:34] <kevinO> you should be se then
[21:34] <stefg> spuddys: waht about that 80 G drive thatÄs in that system. is that available?
[21:34] <kevinO> set*
[21:34] <bobertdos> hsn-: Well, with every distro, hardware support tends to get better. Ibex is due in a month, I'd imagine even if you run into problems with Heron, they might get fixed with Ibex. Until then, we can try to help you troubleshoot audio and wifi problems if they come up.
[21:34] <spuddys> External
[21:34] <guntbert> ubuntutlups: there is a torrent for the standard image too, just found it
[21:34] <spuddys> so not good for gaming
[21:34] <guntbert> !torrent | ubuntutlups
[21:35] <stefg> spuddys: but good for a backup :-)
[21:35] <hsn-> bobertdos: so do you suggest that i wait for a month rather than install it now?
[21:35] <spuddys> Stefg i cant serious because my vista has stuff
[21:35] <spuddys> which if i do format it wont reload it
[21:35] <Jowi> anyone know why users-admin buttons are grayed out (even as root) on a server install? I have policykit installed
[21:35] <guntbert> ubuntutlups: sorry, that was a mistake
[21:35] <ubuntutlups> gunbert kevin0 i just need to install ubuntu the new 8.0.4 from a torrent. no need for live CD
[21:35] <kevinO> ubuntutlups, oh i thought you wanted the alternate cd
[21:35] <pauljr> Azureus is now Vuze
[21:35] <lompa> .
[21:35] <bobertdos> hsn-: That's totally up to you.
[21:35] <kevinO> hmm lol
[21:36] <hsn-> ok :D thx alot
[21:36] <kevinO> ubuntutlups, http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04.1/ubuntu-8.04.1-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[21:36] <ohgodnotanother1> DasEi: tmpfs is a filesystem type. but I found out that it's already mounted
[21:36] <qah> Hi. I have a question about compiling C++ code in ubuntu or linux period.
[21:36] <eaqua> hy. can I have an user that is allowed to use only SSH port - forwarding but not actually login interactively ? I'm basically just trying to expose to a given person some internal website.
[21:37] <lucax> qah: ask
[21:37] <spuddys> THink i found away ste
[21:37] <Mike231> If I want to create a partition to do a proper install of Ubuntu (instead of the WUBI I have now), the partition manager's asking for what file type, but the only ones I can pick are ext2, ext3, linux-swap, and unformatted. What should I pick?
[21:37] <DasEi> ohgodnotanother1: sudo mount shows you evrythng
[21:37] <ubuntutlups> kevin0 thats the ubuntu version that hast no live CD version
[21:37] <ubuntutlups> and i just get the prompt to install it..
[21:37] <stefg> spuddys: if i where you i'd get a good windows backup program (i like TrueImage), do a complete image of the windows install (which will possibly fit into 80G b/c of compression), then repartition the drive with 50-60 G space unused at the end and then do a proper ubuntu-install with that space
[21:37] <J-n> Mike231: ext3
[21:37] <ohgodnotanother1> DasEi: yup I know
[21:38] <bobertdos> DuKeS: Yes, the partitioner SHOULD automatically take care of all that. You will need to install restricted codecs to play all your stuff though.
[21:38] <qah> I am trying to make a cross-platform software for Windows and Linux. For the windows code, I encase in with #ifdef WIN32. That tells if it is compiling and running on windows. But how about Linux. what define can I use for linux?
[21:38] <Mike231> J-n: Thanks
[21:38] <eaqua> qah: _LINUX_ ?
[21:38] <guntbert> kevinO: thx 4 the pointer, I never looked far enough to the bottom to find the torrents :)
[21:38] <kevinO> ubuntutlups, you are confused. you said you have no need for the live cd. the live cd contains the live desktop. which means you can boot any computer from that disc.
[21:38] <abdoo> hey
[21:39] <DuKeS> bobertdos: yeah i know about the codecs...gstreamer codecs should take care of that right?
[21:39] <ubuntutlups> yes i am confused.
[21:39] <kevinO> ubuntutlups, the alternate link i sent you is still normal ubuntu
[21:39] <qah> No. _LINUX_ doesn't work
[21:39] <ubuntutlups> ok what you mean normal ?
[21:39] <kevinO> ubuntutlups, you just wont be able to run it from the cd
[21:39] <Pirate_Hunter> qah: what you mean linux dont work?
[21:39] <qah> when I put #else around the non windows code it works.
[21:39] <bobertdos> DuKeS: Most formats, yes, although you might need w32codecs for Microsoft formats (from the medibuntu repo).
[21:39] <cenubis> hello
[21:39] <kevinO> ubuntutlups, do you understand now?
[21:40] <cenubis> why does my aircard no longer function with wvdial in 8.04?
[21:40] <Gnea> qah: we don't support programming in here, we're just a general help forum. have you tried #ubuntu-devel or #programming?
[21:40] <qah> No
[21:40] <qah> Okay. I will go there. Thanks
[21:40] <ubuntutlups> kevin0 after i download that alternate iso and burn it up i will be able to install ubuntu without any live cd interference.. right ?
[21:40] <DasEi> ohgodnotanother1: so you see where its mounted, for fstab you have to name a device,  next block is the mountpoint
[21:41] <kevinO> ubuntutlups, yes
[21:41] <kevinO> ubuntutlups, and it will install gnome as your desktop
[21:41] <jarco> can i also ask open office questions here?
[21:41] <ubuntutlups> kevin0 thanks.. have a nice afternoon
[21:41] <bobertdos> DuKeS: Don't worry, if something doesn't go as perfectly as it should, we're always around to help :)
[21:42] <lucax> jarco: sure
[21:42] <danbh_intrepid> jarco: why not in the openoffice chat?
[21:42] <DuKeS> bobertdos: ok i guess i can find further info on those if i get into problems playing some of my stuff. If it's not too much to ask i do want some help setting up my video card
[21:42] <spuddys> thanks stefg
[21:42] <jarco> whats the channel?
[21:42] <kevinO> it could be an ubuntu issue :)
[21:42] <kevinO> so lets see :P
[21:42] <guntbert> ubuntutlups: you can install from the desktop CD or from the alternate CD, but with the Desktop CD you can have a running ubuntu, even without installation - thats called "live CD"
[21:42] <ohgodnotanother1> DasEi: ok. so that point is clear. but still the graphic driver doesn't work :(
[21:42] <bobertdos> DuKeS: What do you have?
[21:42] <DuKeS> bobertdos: for some reason everytime i try ubuntu (i tried 7.04 and 7.10 before) and for some reason my video playback is choppy...which is the reason i always end up uninstalling it :(
[21:43] <danbh_intrepid> jarco: #openoffice.org
[21:43] <unbekannt> I have a strange DNS problem with Ubuntu;  If I ping blahblah.foo.local, it never does a DNS request (verified with tcpdump) and fails name resolution.  foo.local is a local domain here at work
[21:43] <unbekannt> Under Fedora, it works fine; DHCP boot on both machines
[21:43] <stefg> unbekannt: ipv6 problems?
[21:43] <danbh_intrepid> unbekannt: dig   is a good program to test dns
[21:43] <ubuntutlups> guntbert so after i donwload this ill get a updatE ?
[21:43] <ubuntutlups> i dont want upgrade i want a fresh install
[21:43] <unbekannt> we dont' run ipv6
[21:43] <unbekannt> both dig and nslookup find the server
[21:44] <stefg> unbekannt: exactly !
[21:44] <ubuntutlups> format my Hard disk
[21:44] <DuKeS> bobertdos: my pc is an emachines t3256...chipset is nvidia nforce2 and graphics nvidia geforce 4MX 64MB shared
[21:44] <stefg> !ipv6 | unbekannt
[21:44] <kevinO> ubuntutlups, no, you will get upgates though
[21:44] <Babbleback> Gnea, why does it work fine when Firefox prompts for an install of flash but not via flashplugin-nonfree? that is if you put in the correct password; otherwise it believes it is installed and no longer prompts you though it failed
[21:44] <arooni-mobile> ATI Radeon HD 2400 PRO 128MB [add $60 or $2/month1]
[21:44] <arooni-mobile> 	Dell Recommended (includes Blu-ray support)
[21:44] <arooni-mobile>
[21:44] <arooni-mobile>
[21:44] <arooni-mobile> ATI Radeon HD3650 256MB [add $100 or $3/month1]
[21:44] <FloodBot2> arooni-mobile: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:44] <arooni-mobile>
[21:44] <kevinO> updates*
[21:44] <arooni-mobile>
[21:44] <_Zeus_> !flood
[21:44] <arooni-mobile> Radeon ATI HD 2600 XT 256MB [add $150 or $5/month1]
[21:44] <arooni-mobile> oops
[21:44] <guntbert> ubuntutlups: both CDs will give you the option to do a fresh install
[21:44] <ubuntutlups> mmm ok
[21:44] <SchneeSchwarz> unbekannt: avahi running?
[21:44] <ubuntutlups> thanks also to you gunbert
[21:45] <arooni-mobile> buying a computer from dell.  which one of these is well supported in ubuntu, and provides dual monitor support?  ATI Radeon HD 2400 PRO 128MB || ATI Radeon HD3650 256MB ||  Radeon ATI HD 2600 XT 256MB
[21:45] <unbekannt> SchneeSchwarz:  i'll check
[21:45] <unbekannt> stefg:  I'll try turning ipv6 off
[21:45] <rkvirani_> Hi all
[21:46] <DuKeS> bobertdos: i dont know why but when i install the restricted drivers (which is one of the first things ubuntu always lets me know "there are restricted drivers for your video card") 2 things happen: 1) resolution options don't go over 800x600 and 2) video playback is choppy with a very distracting line in the middle of every fullscreen video :S
[21:46] <DasEi> ohgodnotanother1: which card ?
[21:46] <kevinO> !ati
[21:46] <Jowi> anyone know why users-admin buttons are grayed out (even as root) on a server install? I have policykit installed
[21:46] <kevinO> arooni,  ^^
[21:47] <stefg> unbekannt: even if doesn't solve that problem it's generally a good idea
[21:47] <J-n> arooni-mobile: i'd end up looking them up on a website that i found through a google search to see if they are compatable with a 2 monitor setup.
[21:47] <unbekannt> good deal
[21:47] <bobertdos> DuKeS: No offense, but uh, your video issues most likely have a lot more to do with your hardware than it does with Ubuntu. I would completely ignore the prompts to install t he restricted drivers. Also, you might want to set gstreamer-properties to use a simpler rendering device, if possible.
[21:47] <J-n> Jowi: it might be eaiser to get an answer for that over at #ubuntu-server
[21:47] <pan023> how do u see wat version of an app we have?
[21:48] <Jowi> J-n, ok. thanks
[21:48] <case^> how do you hide joins/quits in pidgin?
[21:48] <stefg> pan023: apt-cache policy [nameofpackage]
[21:48] <virginiatiger> So avant window manager is in the repo and I clicked on the icon in accessories but nothing has shown up, does anyone else had this?
[21:48] <Sunborn> case^: there is a plugin in the guifications plugin pack
[21:48] <Prose> what's the best way to backup a server ? as in, not just the data, the whole   /             ? as if need be, all can be restrored: network config, app config and so on
[21:48] <reya276> I keep getting this Keyring dialog coming up everytime I use Evolution or Connect through a server(GUI/SSH), so how can I disable this?
[21:48] <case^> thanks Sunborn
[21:49] <Juje007> Annyone know how to get the domain of samba?
[21:49] <hateball> Prose: Clonezilla ?
[21:49] <abdoo> ello
[21:49] <jrib> |unjustice|: I am back now.  Did you sort it out?
[21:49] <abdoo> can any one help
[21:49] <abdoo> i'm new
[21:50] <case^> so am I
[21:50] <guntbert> !ask
[21:50] <Sunborn> Sometimes I am too lazy to do the command line business, would it be bad to do "sudo nautilus" and hope that I can do root functions for awhile in a GUI? Am I missing something?
[21:50] <DuKeS> bobertdos: yeah i always thought it was something to do with my video card. Hopefully i'll be upgrading that along with the ram soon. Again, thanx for all your help. One of the reasons i'm trying to make the switch from windows is the great community ubuntu has going for it :)
[21:50] <abdoo> just wanna kno new ppl
[21:50] <case^> this will take some time
[21:50] <jrib> Sunborn: well the issue is that you should never really have to do that.  What are you doing that requires you to do that?
[21:50] <jrib> abdoo: /join #ubuntu-offtopic   for socializing
[21:50] <stefg> Sunborn: make that gksudo nautilus (and don't tell anyone :-) )
[21:51] <Sylphid|work> Im looking to buy warhammer and was just wondering if anyone is playing it on ubuntu and if there are any issues with it
[21:51] <abdoo> how can i switch me room
[21:51] <jrib> abdoo: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:51] <kevinO> abdoo /j #channel
[21:51] <case^> ./join #
[21:51] <J_P> hi all
[21:51] <case^> laff
[21:51] <jrib> Sylphid|work: is that a windows game?
[21:51] <kevinO> :P
[21:51] <case^> 8.04 is something special
[21:51] <Juje007> Annyone know how to get the domain of samba?
[21:51] <Sunborn> jrib: I want to change a file owned by root to another file owned by me
[21:51] <Sylphid|work> jrgp, yes... but I have read beta reports that it works with wine
[21:51] <jrib> Sunborn: what file exactly?
[21:52] <bobertdos> DuKeS: If you ever want to peek at gstreamer-properties, type gksudo gstreamer-properties from the terminal. Thank you for the compliment, we do try!! :)
[21:52] <jrib> !appdb | Sylphid|work
[21:52] <J_P> hey, is possible send one html message using libgmail ?
[21:52] <Pirate_Hunter> case^: that only depends on you but since it is the latest at the moment that yeah
[21:52] <A1> sunborn - chown
[21:52] <Sunborn> jrib: a jar file in /usr
[21:52] <reya276> Does anyone know how to disable the Keyring for Evolution?
[21:52] <Sunborn> A1: they are separate files
[21:52] <jrib> Sunborn: that's still vague, try "exactly"
[21:53] <Sunborn> So I have a file that I want to swap into the place of one owned by root
[21:53] <crdlb> bobertdos: there is no reason to run gstreamer-properties with sudo/gksu
[21:53] <jrib> Sunborn: exact path to this file?
[21:53] <bobertdos> crdlb: Hmm, perhaps not, I guess I just always assumed it needed root privileges, but I believe you.
[21:54] <crdlb> bobertdos: it stores your selection in gconf
[21:54] <jonasb> hi all, I tried out Intrepid Ibex live cd on my new laptop yesterday and had quite a lot of issues. e.g. couldn't run apt-get since it complained on some corrupt files. would anyone recommend installing Intrepid Ibex or should I stick with Hardy Heron?
[21:54] <Sunborn>  /usr/share/jbiwatcher.jar and the one I want in its place is on my
[21:54] <Sunborn> desktop
[21:54] <jrib> jonasb: wait until october when intrepid is released
[21:54] <bobertdos> crdlb: Oh, is that where those settings go? Oh well then I guess you definitely don't want to run that with root.
[21:54] <stefg> jonasb: /j #ubuntu+1 and read the topic :-)
[21:55] <Xcerca> can i get a quick explanation about something? i have compiz installed, and when i right click the compiz fusion icon i can choose Window Decorator (and i have GTK selected) and window manager and i have Compiz selected ...  now what is the difference between the two and which one do i have to look into for changing my deskto theme ?
[21:55] <whyameye> ubuntu hardy w/ ff3: my history is not being stored. The config appears to be correct. Anybody have a guess what is going on?
[21:55] <Xcerca> GTK right ?
[21:55] <bobertdos> DuKeS: Scratch what I said about gksudo with gstreamer-properties, :p
[21:55] <jrib> Sunborn: so this is some file you put in there yourself to begin with?
[21:55] <danbh_intrepid> whyameye: ever run ff as root?
[21:55] <Sunborn> jrib: I mean I can do it with command lines, I am no noob, I just wanted it to be easier
[21:55] <DuKeS> bobertdos: lol why? i had already made a note of it :P
[21:56] <Sunborn> jrib: negative it was got down with synaptic
[21:56] <whyameye> danbh_intrepid: not intensionally but it might have happened...
[21:56] <A1> sunborn - nothing wrong with using sudo nautilus every so often
[21:56] <jrib> Sunborn: what package?  and why do you want to replace it?
[21:56] <Pizarro> I configured a VPN server into my Ubuntu Server that it is correctly working. However when clients establish the VPN connection, after some seconds (40-50) it disconnects without any explanation. Can anyone help me on this please?
[21:56] <bobertdos> DuKeS: Nah, crdlb just made a very important point about that program, and believe me, you don't want to run that as root. My mistake.......:p
[21:56] <Sunborn> it is a newer version
[21:56] <abdoo> thanx ppl i got there :))
[21:56] <Pirate_Hunter> !sudo | A1, Sunborn
[21:56] <Sunborn> the repos are about a year old
[21:57] <Xcerca> how do you choose the GTK theme in gnome? is it the same as going to System > Preferences > Appearance ?
[21:57] <jrib> Xcerca: yeah
[21:57] <danbh_intrepid> whyameye: can you open a terminal?
[21:57] <gnuskool> willan ubuntu install from within windows still write grub into the mbr?
[21:57] <jonasb> jrib, stefg: thanks.. I'll wait until the proper release... I guess I just expected Alpha 6 to be fairly stable
[21:57] <whyameye> danbh_intrepid: yep. it's opened.
[21:57] <jrib> Sunborn: I can't find jbiwatcher anywhere.  What package is it in?
[21:57] <jrib> jonasb: "alpha", it's not even beta
[21:58] <whyameye> danbh_intrepid: I found the profile directory for ff...
[21:58] <bobertdos> DuKeS: Just run it by itself.
[21:58] <Sunborn> oh, I missed a "d" the package is "JBidWatcher"
[21:58] <DuKeS> bobertdos: lol oh boy, i'll need to start gaining knowledge of all this terminology :p but ok, if you say don't do it i wont ...my instalation is just done so brb...i'll reboot into the installed os now:)
[21:58] <Pizarro> Any idea?
[21:58] <jonasb> jrib: I know, but 30 oct is just around the corner :-)
[21:58] <danbh_intrepid> whyameye: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && ls -al ~/.mozilla | pastebinit
[21:58] <Xcerca> jrib so i should be able to download a gtk theme for say gnome-look , then goto  System > Preferences > Appearance , choose install on the themes tab and select the one i downloaded ?
[21:59] <bobertdos> crdlb: Wow, that's kind of crucial to know, thanks for correcting me.
[21:59] <stefg> jonasb: and to be honest: i'd never expect too much of the first release after an LTS one. the dev's are quite adventurous with these ....
[22:00] <Winston_SmithVT> When I unplug my flash drive then plug it back in without restarting the old mount point is still there. I have WD Passport, WD Passport_ and WD Passport__, how can I fix this so it won't happen?
[22:00] <Pizarro> HELP PLease
[22:00] <jrib> Xcerca: maybe.  Depends on the theme.  It may only show up in the Controls tab when you hit Customize
[22:00] <jonasb> stefg: I see
[22:00] <gnuskool> willan ubuntu install from within windows still write grub into the mbr?Concerned about a dell recovery partition
[22:00] <bobertdos> crdlb: Oh wait a second, yes of course those settings are in gconf, I've read those keys!! *trout slaps self silly*
[22:00] <jrib> Sunborn: it's probably fine in this case.  But it's always a better idea to install your custom stuff to /usr/local/ or /opt
[22:01] <danbh_intrepid> whyameye: well, I really dont know.  you could always try: sudo chown -R user:user ~/.mozilla
[22:01] <Quinn_Storm> I have a thinkpad X61 and I'm having trouble getting it to suspend/resume in hardy.  Does anyone have any suggestions?  Various web searches claim it should work as-is.  I haven't changed much yet.  On resume it gets stuck at a screen with a blinking cursor, and alt+f7 to return to X just hangs
[22:01] <jrib> Winston_SmithVT: do you eject/unmount before unplugging it?
[22:01] <Winston_SmithVT> jrib: I didn't, I didn't even know I had to
[22:02] <Jack_Sparrow> gnuskool If you mean using wubi.. you should read up on what wubi is and how it works.. I wont use or recommend it
[22:02] <Sunborn> jrib: I was more concerned with the security problems with using "gksu nautilus"
[22:02] <jrib> Winston_SmithVT: yeah, you should.  That way you make sure the data is written to it
[22:02] <whyameye> danbh_intrepid: thanks. That fixed it.
[22:02] <Winston_SmithVT> jrib: I see that's my problem, i'm going to look around to see if I can make it auto dismount. Thanks for the tip
[22:02] <Sunborn> and if it was a bad thing
[22:02] <jrib> Sunborn: there's none really.  It just gives you a graphical way to screw up your system instead of using the command line to do it
[22:03] <Sunborn> which I was hoping for, but wondering if it was "bad"
[22:03] <Winston_SmithVT> jrib: Used to windows just unplug it, still getting used to GNU/Linux
[22:03] <gnuskool> Jack_Sparrow: thx
[22:03] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[22:03] <Ergo^> can anyone tell me how do i mount my cd back again after i did wine eject ?
[22:03] <jrib> Winston_SmithVT: you need to "safely remove hardware" in windows too.  It was the case in XP anyway
[22:05] <Winston_SmithVT> jrib: I've never done that, always just unpluged the drive. Never seamed to have a problem i've been using this drive for a few years now
[22:06] <DuKeS> bobertdos: It installed fine and i got windows on the grub loader :) so the first thing i wanna do before i start messing with codecs and stuff is download all the updates right? and u said to not enable the restricted nvidia driver? because some people have said to use sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[22:06] <Whitor> Winston_SmithVT, You are a lucky lucky fellow ...
[22:06] <Whitor> do you like gambling ?
[22:06] <Jack_Sparrow> DuKeS a quick backup might not be a bad idea either
[22:07] <Mark_Jones> Hello are there any users of APTonCD here that might be able to help with an apt source nameing issue/question?
[22:07] <DuKeS> Jack_Sparrow: how do i do that?
[22:07] <xxploit> question, how do I change the console screen resolution, I think default is like 640x480? I'd like to use 1024x768.
[22:07] <Winston_SmithVT> Whitor: not really from what I understand, windows mounts it the drive synchronously so data is written to the disk right away instead of buffered
[22:07] <Jack_Sparrow> !backup > DuKeS
[22:07] <Sunborn> jrib: thanks for your time
[22:08] <Sliss> grr droped my laptop and now ubuntu does not startup...completly... x starts up but than it hangs... what shall i do?
[22:08] <mrbichel> Hello, i am interested in getting involved with ubuntu development. Is this the right channel to ask for guidance regarding that?
[22:08] <bobertdos> DuKeS: Ditto to what Jack_Sparrow said. Yes, start with all the updates. As far as everything else is concerned, this is my general rule of thumb: Start with the most basic components first, see if they satisfy your needs, if not, slowly try other things (especially when it comes to video drivers).
[22:09] <Aura-> Sliss: check for bad sectors
[22:09] <venome> Sliss: use fsck
[22:09] <venome> Sliss: or badblocks
[22:09] <Sunborn> Sliss: well if you dropped it you probably damaged the hardware, now X is very picky about hardware
[22:09] <Sliss> I did via gparted live cd
[22:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Sliss was it running when you dropped it?
[22:09] <DuKeS> bobertdos: ok...im reading on how to backup the system right now. thanks
[22:10] <Sliss> no it wasnt running
[22:10] <Mark_Jones> Specifically my issue is that I downloaded all of the main ubuntu repository and I let APTonCD filter out the old packages.I burned my 2 DVDs but there both named the same name in the sources list.How can I know what disk to insert when asked?
[22:10] <Aura-> Sliss: does X say where it stops?
[22:10] <visik7> anyone has got ubuntu running on an MSI Wind (u100) ?? I've some issues
[22:10] <B3z3rk3r> Mark_Jones if you put the wron one in.. iot should let you know
[22:10] <Sliss> Aura-: no I do get my background img though
[22:11] <Aura-> Sliss: check the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log to look for where X stops
[22:11] <Mark_Jones> Well thats fine if all I had to deal with is just the 2 disks, but Ill have 5 or more when done backing up the entire repositories for ubuntu.
[22:11] <Sliss> and then it tries to show me a small window but it t\stays white
[22:11] <Sliss> One problem how do I get into a terminal?
[22:11] <Atarlost> exit
[22:12] <hvgotcodes> if i copy files off a partition on my encrypted lvm onto a flash drive, the file wont be encrypted on the flash drive will it?
[22:12] <ganymede> i cannot unlock the user and groups applet in gnome-control-center; the button is disabled
[22:12] <Sliss> ctrl-alt-f1-6 do not work
[22:12] <venome> hvgotcodes: depends on the target flash drive file system
[22:12] <Aura-> Sliss: Alt-F2 for "Run", type in gnome-terminal
[22:13] <hvgotcodes> venome -- i guess i should just try it eh?
[22:13] <Sliss> i think gnome is scruwed
[22:13] <Sliss> I also have a working mouse thiugh
[22:14] <Sliss> *though
[22:14] <Mark_Jones> Ok lets try this question then, does APTonCDs media that it creates have a file or something that I can edit to change the name lkisted in the sources list?
[22:14] <knoppixnoob> DasEi, u available by any chance to help me copy these ntfs files to usb?  i got the new disk you told me to, and have a terminal open.  the ntfs file is /dev/hda2 and the usb is /dev/sda.  i am root in the terminal.
[22:14] <Aura-> try booting into "failsafe x"
[22:14] <myke> how do i get emacs bindings in firefox?  editing .gtkrc-2.0 seems to have no effect
[22:14] <Dragon> Hello I'm using ventrillo through wine
[22:14] <EvilDaemon> Cool.
[22:15] <DasEi> knoppixnoob:you're welcome !
[22:15] <Dragon> I'm getting an error another program is using input device
[22:15] <Sliss> thats an other problem  grub I see from a split second
[22:15] <DasEi> knoppixnoob:ass its ubuntu here, I'll pm you again...
[22:15] <DasEi> as*
[22:15] <Mark_Jones> also does anyone know if there is an exact release date for the intrepid ibex release?
[22:16] <Dragon> My ventrillo through wine insn't letting my mic work
[22:16] <knoppixnoob> DasEi, ok i hope i can find it, i'm on xchat, and usually i use chatzilla...
[22:16] <DasEi>  Mark_Jones: end of oktober is said
[22:16] <bobertdos> Mark_Jones: Some people are saying the 30th of October, but I think in general, we're just saying the end of October.
[22:16] <Aura-> Sliss: booting into failsafe X is selectable at the login screen, not the GRUB screen
[22:16] <mgolisch> Dragon: cant you use ts? it sucks hard too but atleast they provide a linux client..
[22:16] <mgolisch> :)
[22:17] <Mark_Jones> ok cool
[22:17] <DasEi> knoppixnoob:open now..
[22:18] <saintbob> firefox and konqueror won't open up my mail at yahoo:(
[22:18] <Sliss> Aura-: if grub does wait for 0 sec. how can I select failsave? ;-)
[22:18] <ganymede> is there a way to create a user that can't use a shell, but can be available via scp?
[22:18] <B3z3rk3r> saintbob: have you updated your flash + java?
[22:18] <Aura-> Sliss: it's not a GRUB option
[22:19] <Dragon> mgolisch: I play world of warcraft and the group i belong to uses vent
[22:19] <saintbob> and what is the command for that?
[22:19] <xxploit> Sliss: theres still time to bring up the grub menu if you set it to 0
[22:19] <B3z3rk3r> saintbob: you can manually download packages with a gui and just run them from your desktop
[22:20] <B3z3rk3r> saintbob just google, flash and java install
[22:20] <Sliss> xxploit: with what key?
[22:20] <Dragon> Does anyone here use ventrillo on linux through wine
[22:20] <saintbob> k
[22:20] <xxploit> Sliss: hit escape as soon as u see the grub text
[22:20] <Sliss> ok i'll try
[22:20] <ganymede> i don't want to use scponly because i also use ssh server alongside with users that CAN log in, so i don't want another daemon unless its on the same port (22)
[22:20] <Xcerca> Dragon does ventrillo not have a linux version ?
[22:20] <mgolisch> Dragon: i see, maybe have a look  at its appdb entry if it has one
[22:20] <mgolisch> Xcerca: nope
[22:21] <kizza> ubuntu master
[22:21] <mgolisch> ventrilo = fail!
[22:21] <Dragon> Xcerca: No it doesn't
[22:21] <xxploit> Xcerca: no it doesnt, but u can install via wine, theres a couple ventrilo scripts on the web also to make the install easier
[22:21] <Xcerca> i dunno , i use skype it has a fully supported linux version
[22:21] <kizza> ventrilo= fail!
[22:21] <Dragon> mgolisch: 1 sec
[22:22] <Sliss_> xxploit: THX that worked :)  booting in failsave
[22:22] <kizza> rihgdjkfhgkhfughrg
[22:22] <davidroderick> I built ruby 1.9.  Things not going well
[22:22] <Dragon> mgolisch: wait how do i check the appdb entry
[22:22] <davidroderick> built ok.  but rails says it doesn't know >=
[22:22] <myk_robinson> hey, guys. Got a Gateway M-6881 laptop with Intel X3100 graphics. Kubuntu claims to be using the vesa driver, but if i run glxinfo, it shows direct rendering support. Should i be using a different driver, or is this the best one to use?
[22:22] <mgolisch> http://appdb.winehq.com @ Dragon
[22:23] <Boyinblue00> Right. I've got Ubuntu to boot now but im having a problem with my wrieless USB dongle made by belkin how can I set it up?
[22:23] <Aura-> myk_robinson: yes, you can get direct rendering through MESA; however your driver will determine its speed at rendering.
[22:24] <Aura-> using the vesa driver can work; but it'll be slow, and things like desktop effects won't work at a happy speed
[22:24] <myk_robinson> when I manually select my model of video card, VESA is the default driver. What package do i need to install
[22:24] <arooni-mobile> i've gotten: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found) when i tried to hook up ubuntu 8.04 with nvidia geforce 8600gts.  i tried: swapping out mobo (to intel p43 chipset), using envyng, downloading and compiling drivers from nvidia (compiled but same error), using the restricted modules for ubuntu (nvida-glx-new)... and everything results in same error.  what am i doing wrong, what can i do?
[22:25] <Aura-> install the Intel video xorg drivers, myk_robinson
[22:25] <myk_robinson> BTW, i am using Kubuntu, just those guys arent talking :)
[22:25] <Boyinblue00> Right. I've got Ubuntu to boot now but im having a problem with my wrieless USB dongle made by belkin how can I set it up?
[22:25] <Slart> arooni-mobile: does the nvidia driver support the gts cards? check their site.. there's supposed to be a list somewhere
[22:25] <xxploit> arooni-mobile: you using 64bit?
[22:25] <myk_robinson> package manager shows them as installed
[22:25] <gnuskool> how do i get a terminal like the one in backtrack distro in ubuntu?
[22:25] <myk_robinson> xserver-xorg-video-810 and xserver-xorg-video-intel
[22:26] <arooni-mobile> xxploit, nope
[22:26] <Slart> gnuskool: perhaps describe to us what the backtrack terminal looks like.. we.. eh.. mostly run ubuntu here.. =)
[22:26] <xxploit> Slart: it has a transparent background/wallpaper etc
[22:27] <Khisanth> ganymede: you can still do that with scponly
[22:27] <xye> question: was installing ubuntu doing the duel boot option and where it shows the slider for the windows/ubuntu partion I can't seem to drag the slider because my mouse won't work?
[22:27] <Slart> xxploit: doesn't the gnome-terminal do transparent background? thought it did..
[22:27] <gnuskool> Slart it's embedded, transparent
[22:27] <ganymede> Khisanth: yeah, looks like i didn't do enough reading. i figured it out. i thought scponly was a separate ssh daemon
[22:28] <ganymede> Khisanth: thanks
[22:28] <xxploit> Slart: hes talking about the bootsplash, not using a bootplash but using a bordered wallpaper with the boot terminal inside it etc. Best i can explain it
[22:28] <simNIX> ganymede, you want to chroot cretain users that sftp ?
[22:28] <Slart> ok.. my gnome-terminal also crashes if you change the profile.. hrmpf.. but it was transparent alright
[22:28] <simNIX> sshd2 can do that natively
[22:28] <ganymede> simNIX: yeah, i already created a user with shell scponly, i can also chroot it?
[22:29] <ciaran> anyone here know of an MP4 conversion app for Ubuntu?
[22:29] <jin> how do you tell Ubuntu to reconfigure the sound card? because I changed my mainboard
[22:30] <simNIX> scponly is long time ago I used that since sshd2 has it build in - scponly has 2 shells you can set - only one chroots - scponly also needs sftp server in chroot space
[22:30] <arooni-mobile> Slart, its not onsupported hardware
[22:30] <jin> it worked already.,
[22:30] <jin> :-)
[22:30] <phantomcircuit> firefox over X doesn't work very well
[22:31] <Dragon> Vent still isn't working through wine, I get an error when i start it up, Failed to open input device. Another program might have it open already. rc = -10
[22:31] <jin> is there any kernel I can use to take full avantage of a core 2 duo?
[22:31] <waterflask> Hello. Does there exist any tool that can give you i/o statistics? Something like top is in regards to cpu and memory
[22:31] <rkvirani> Does anyone know what menu gOS uses?
[22:31] <ganymede> simNIX: i'll try with scponlyc shell instead. what server are you using that has that functionality built in? i'm using the one that ships with ubuntu by default. i skimmed the manpage of sshd_config but didn't see anything about scp only
[22:31] <jrib> jin: -generic will use both cores already
[22:31] <xye> Anyone know how I can slide the partioner thing while trying to install ubuntu without using the mouse? my lazer mouse won't turn on when i'm installing
[22:32] <jrib> waterflask: I think atop will do that
[22:32] <Slart> arooni-mobile: hmm.. then I don't know.. I would say that both envyng and nvidias own installers are pretty good.. never had them fail on me
[22:33] <jrib> xye: try tab and arrow keys and maybe space I guess :/
[22:33] <ganymede> argh my denyhosts just blocked me
[22:33] <ciaran> waterflask: apt-get sysstat ; iostat
[22:34] <B3z3rk3r> ganymede lol.. why?
[22:34] <ganymede> B3z3rk3r: i set the shell to scponlyc but which the wrong path (/usr/bin instead of /usr/sbin) so i got too many failed log in attempts
[22:34] <Dragon> I'm getting an error when i start vent through wine the error is this:      Failed to open input device. Another program might have it open already. rc = -10
[22:35] <simNIX> ganymede, I use http://www.ssh.com/
[22:35] <B3z3rk3r> ganymede oops.. do u know how to fix that???
[22:35] <xye> jrib i tried all of the keyboard buttons, haha
[22:35] <ganymede> B3z3rk3r: clear the auth logs? lol...there's probaby a way to add an exception; i'm looking for that now
[22:35] <rkvirani> Does anyone know what menu gOS uses?
[22:35] <xye> and it won't install because the disk size is 'too small' and I can't move the slider.
[22:36] <jimcooncat> how can I tell if the server or desktop kernel got installed?
[22:36] <rkvirani> taonari: there is no difference
[22:36] <Jowi> Hi, I figured out the grayed out buttons in users-admin. ck-launch-session must be started. I do not want to do this manually each time (i do not use gnome). which is the best way? .xinit or something works?
[22:36] <rkvirani> you can type uname -a to tell what version of the kernel you have
[22:36] <forced> knoppixnoob: see pm forced
[22:36] <ivantis> hey
[22:37] <jimcooncat> Linux conga 2.6.24-19-server #1 SMP Wed Aug 20 18:43:06 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:37] <ivantis> if i install Ubuntu server edition, will it have a shell on its screen output, or will i need to do things from SSH on another computer?
[22:37] <jimcooncat> that look right rkvirani?
[22:37] <forced> knoppixnoob: see pm forced (DasEi)
[22:37] <waterflask> jrib: Seems like what I was looking for, thanks. Do you know if it is possible to see what process is responsible for what part of the i/o?
[22:37] <ivantis> my install CD just arrived from canonical
[22:37] <venome> ivantis: it'll be on screen as well
[22:37] <ivantis> okay good
[22:38] <ivantis> my other computer is broken at the moment
[22:38] <jrib> waterflask: nope
[22:38] <jimcooncat> ivantis: it will prompt you for a login
[22:38] <waterflask> ciaran: Seems iostat might be useful, albeit I get the feeling I need to read the man page before I can tell.
[22:38] <ivantis> jimcooncat: like when i press Ctrl+Alt+F1 at a normal install?
[22:39] <Dragon> I'm trying to run vent through wine and i'm getting an error Failed to open input device. Another program might have it open already. rc = -10
[22:39] <ivantis> whats vent?
[22:40] <Dragon> Sorry, Ventrillo its a voip program
[22:40] <ozzloy> i'm trying to set my computer to request a static ip.  i'm in the eth0 properties and i've set the IP address.  what gateway address should i use?
[22:40] <jimcooncat> ivantis: yes. Though I do highly recommend setting up ssh as well.
[22:40] <ozzloy> like the address of the router?
[22:41] <ivantis> jimcooncat: okay thanks
[22:41] <ozzloy> actually maybe i have that part correct
[22:41] <EvilDaemon> What's the command to open the directory '/' as root?
[22:41] <EvilDaemon> graphically, please
[22:41] <jrib> EvilDaemon: why?  What do you want to do?
[22:42] <ozzloy> i can ping my box, and i can bring up the apache server page on it from another box.  but i can't ping out from that box
[22:42] <ozzloy> ping google.com says network is unreachable
[22:42] <EvilDaemon> I need to change permissions to a file in /home/EvilDaemon, which only has root permissions.
[22:42] <EvilDaemon> @jrib
[22:42] <ozzloy> ifconfig shows no ip
[22:42] <ivantis> ozzloy: does your ISP allow static IPs?
[22:42] <jrib> EvilDaemon: gksudo nautilus
[22:42] <ozzloy> but i can go to <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:42] <EvilDaemon> thanks.
[22:42] <ozzloy> ivantis: this is internal
[22:42] <lesergi> hi!
[22:42] <ivantis> oh
[22:43] <YngMom> l
[22:43] <ozzloy> so my "ISP" does allow static IPs.  in fact, i've been using this one for a while
[22:43] <ivantis> possibly your router is not configured for static IPs
[22:43] <ozzloy> but just this morning it stopped
[22:43] <ozzloy> and i changed some stuff around trying to get it to work
[22:43] <ivantis> ozzloy: what company you get your net from?
[22:43] <ozzloy> eventually i found that something's wrong with the hardware
[22:44] <ozzloy> so i've connected using different wires
[22:44] <ozzloy> i don't know the company i get the net from in this office
[22:44] <ciaran> waterflask - good luck
[22:44] <ivantis> ozzloy: so what is the problem specifically?
[22:44] <ozzloy> but that's not important.  this is entirely within the network
[22:44] <nigma> hi all, one simple question, how do I uncompress an iso to a dir?
[22:45] <waterflask> ciaran: Thanks for the pointer
[22:45] <bobertdos> Is there anything in the wiki to answer that, nigma?
[22:45] <ivantis> nigma: is this using a command line interface or GUI?
[22:45] <bobertdos> !iso > nigma
[22:45] <nigma> is the same for me
[22:45] <ozzloy> the problem is this: on the bugzilla server box, ifconfig shows no ip, ping google.com says network is unreachable, but using other computers, i can still connect to the bugzilla web page being hosted by the bugzilla server (internally)
[22:45] <Kagimaro> Hello everyone
[22:45] <nigma> ok ty
[22:45] <B3z3rk3r> nigma: you need to mount iso files i think
[22:45] <ozzloy> so that's weird
[22:46] <lesergi> help with packaging please! When I try to package my software trough rules file I install files in debian/name but dpkg-buildpackage does not take that! why??
[22:46] <ivantis> ozzloy: sorry i dont think im qualified to help you
[22:46] <ozzloy> just to be sure, i tried it again.  i can still connect to the bugzilla server, but i can't connect from the bugzilla server to anything
[22:46] <ivantis> or...
[22:47] <ozzloy> like i can't even ping the router
[22:47] <saintbob> browsers still acting funny Firefox still wont' access my yahoo mail account Konqueror does but only opens some emails
[22:47] <ivantis> how odd
[22:47] <ozzloy> wait
[22:47] <ozzloy> now i can
[22:47] <ozzloy> hold plz
[22:47] <ivantis> k
[22:47] <ozzloy> pinging google doesn't work, but dns resolved the ip at least
[22:47] <ozzloy> wtf?
[22:47] <ivantis> bobertdos: where did your name come from?
[22:48] <ivantis> ozzloy: the IP is probably stored in a cache
[22:48] <ozzloy> ok, nothing is broken, everything is fine
[22:48] <bobertdos> ivantis: I just made it up, a long time ago. Why?
[22:48] <saintbob> browsers still acting funny Firefox still won't access my yahoo mail account Konqueror does but only opens some emails
[22:48] <ozzloy> ivantis: naw, i added "?aslkdfjsjldkf" on the url to make sure it really really reloaded
[22:49] <ivantis> i was playing a game at boyscouts last night, and our team name was bobert
[22:49] <ivantis> my friend thought it up
[22:49] <roukoun> how to change language in opera 9?
[22:49] <ozzloy> ivantis: but now i can ping out from the bugzilla server box to google
[22:49] <ivantis> hmm
[22:49] <brokenlcd> what does "Capabilities: <access denied>" mean for a wireless card?
[22:49] <ozzloy> so for now everything is everything (tm)
[22:49] <nigma> ty bobertdos
[22:49] <ozzloy> ivantis: thanks for the effort though
[22:50] <ivantis> ozzloy: well, once on my ubuntu desktop, the net just stopped working. the net thing was in sleep mode or something
[22:50] <bobertdos> no problem, nigma
[22:50] <ivantis> well
[22:50] <ivantis> my problem is solved
[22:50] <saintbob> browsers still acting funny Firefox still won't access my yahoo mail account Konqueror does but only opens some emails
[22:50] <ozzloy> ivantis: i'm fairly certain this was a hardware issue and an impatience issue
[22:50] <aminho> Hi is there anyone familiar with jquery that could help me figuring some strange behavior ? :)
[22:50] <zak> hello
[22:51] <ozzloy> ie i should have just waited a minute for networkyness to propagate
[22:51] <aminho> or maybe there is some javascript channel ?
[22:51] <saintbob> aminho I hope you get an answer I think there are more questions than there are folks answering them
[22:52] <aminho> :)
[22:52] <saintbob> browsers still acting funny Firefox still won't access my yahoo mail account Konqueror does but only opens some emails
[22:52] <aminho> do you know some webdeveloppers channel ?
[22:53] <arquebus> aminho- there is ##javascript with about 300 people connected
[22:54] <B3z3rk3r> saintbob: have you teide opera ?
[22:54] <B3z3rk3r> saintbob: tried*
[22:54] <Jospeh> Help! My Ubuntu computer just froze and it has a paper I've been working on that hasn't been saved in about 30 minutes. What can I do?
[22:54] <ceil420> save more often
[22:54] <roukoun> hi everyone...! i have a problem with opera's fonts and i think that's it because of the language configured in opera... so, how to change language in opera 9?
[22:55] <B3z3rk3r> ceil420: lol. very helpful  :P
[22:55] <ceil420> i do what i can :)
[22:55] <B3z3rk3r> haha
[22:55] <Jospeh> ceil420: thanks....   I try to save often though
[22:55] <Jospeh> I just.... didn't this time around.
[22:55] <Jospeh> Is there anything I can do?
[22:55] <genius> how to count memory size of currently running programs?
[22:56] <saintbob> yes and no deal
[22:56] <Jacobbs> I've got two sound cards on my system
[22:56] <Jacobbs> An X-Fi, which looks like a lost cause when it comes to getting it to work
[22:57] <Jospeh> ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't do anything, and heither does ctrl-alt-delete......   anything?  just hold the button in?
[22:57] <Pirate_Hunter> Jospeh: i dotn want to give you the wrong info but if the system crashed you might have lost it, you can try to kill X, login and check if the app backedup your work
[22:58] <pianoboy3333> where can I get a deb of the latest vlc
[22:58] <B3z3rk3r> lol.. jsut tried to get the man pages in win xp ... :P
[22:58] <ceil420> pianoboy3333, videolan.org ?
[22:58] <B3z3rk3r> from cmd prompt :(
[22:58] <Pirate_Hunter> Jospeh: on my system my left ctrl+alt works with delete to killx not the ones on the right side you can try it if not than kill from termianl with command killx
[22:58] <ssss> hi
[22:58] <bobertdos> genius: There's the processes tab under System->Administration->System monitor. Otherwise, I like htop, for a terminal based task manager.
[22:58] <ssss> i install Rkhunder but
[22:58] <ssss> icant find in application
[22:59] <saintbob> browsers still acting funny Firefox still won't access my yahoo mail account Konqueror does but only opens some emails same with opera can access account but wont open inbox
[22:59] <Pirate_Hunter> can i just ask if there was a netsplit?
[22:59] <genius> bobertdos: i use ubuntu server
[22:59] <pianoboy3333> ceil420: I dont' see debs there, the download instructions just say get it from the ubuntu repos, which is version 0.8.6
[22:59] <bobertdos> genius: then I recommend htop.
[22:59] <Jospeh> Ah goodness... it's due tomorow, and I'm wasting time now.  I guess I'll just have to take the loss and be mad at ubuntu
[22:59] <saintbob> firefox works fine under windows xp on this machine:(
[23:00] <Jospeh> I can't get to ther terminal Pirate_Hunter.
[23:00] <ceil420> pianoboy3333, read the last section (for Dapper Drake) at http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[23:00] <Pirate_Hunter> Jospeh: be mad at yourseld always set your app to backup and save your work every 5min and never leave things for last minute
[23:00] <bobertdos> saintbob: Are you running Hardy and have you updated to Firefox 3.0.1?
[23:00] <ssss> anyone...?
[23:00] <tony403> anyone know how much milk is safe to drink in one day to avoid constipation?
[23:00] <ceil420> tony403, all of it
[23:01] <Jospeh> Pirate_Hunter: I didn't leave it 'till the last minute I've been working on it for quite a while....   good assumption though, I normally do.
[23:01] <saintbob> let me check i'm running 8.04 whatever version that is i'll check firefox
[23:01] <bobertdos> !ot | tony403
[23:01] <Jospeh> Pirate_Hunter: but I still think I'll be mad at ubuntu
[23:01] <tony403> serious. i have 6 gallons and tons of dairy products i got free from a store to keep it from spoiling. only problem is constipation now
[23:01] <saintbob> 3.0.1
[23:02] <tony403> is there like a medical room here on freenode?
[23:02] <aminho> arquebus > thanks
[23:02] <genius> bobertdos: ps aux | awk '{sum +=$4}; END {print sum}'
[23:02] <pianoboy3333> ceil420: isn't adding the dapper repos bad?
[23:03] <ceil420> pianoboy3333, it's a videolan repo, not a dapper repo
[23:03] <saintbob> the browser that works the best is konqueror and only on some sites
[23:03] <ceil420> check the URL
[23:03] <saintbob> firefox works fine under windows xp on this machine:(
[23:03] <ceil420> oh nm, sorry
[23:03] <pist0l-fish> hi all, I am trying to burn a DVD and k3b, brasero, and nautilus have all not worked. It seems like none of the programs can get the DVD's size. Can anyone help?
[23:03] <ceil420> pianoboy3333, i doubt it would cause a problem. i'd test it, but i don't use ubuntu
[23:04] <bobertdos> saintbob: So, what exactly happens when you try to get into your Yahoo mail? Try running firefox in the terminal and reading the output as the program runs.
[23:04] <uffo> can anyone give me VLC 0.9.2 .deb file
[23:05] <pianoboy3333> uffo: lemme know if you get one
[23:05] <Gizmo_The_Great> Can any1 tell me how to create a link from a hidden /home/ted/.cachefolder to /mnt/SCSI/ScratchFolder/cachefolder? I have tried
[23:05] <Pirate_Hunter> uffo: i bet you can probably search for it in google
[23:05] <B3z3rk3r> uffo: you should be able to get it off the net?
[23:05] <B3z3rk3r> uffo: have you tried googling for it ?
[23:06] <ozzloy> is there a program for displaying arbitrary text a la quicksilver from mac OS X?
[23:06] <georgy_28_> uffo : http://linuxowns.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/new-vlc-player-092/ at your own risk !
[23:06] <uffo> can anyone give me VLC 0.9.2 .deb file for ubuntu 8.04, synaptic destroys whole ubuntu so i must find pack with all libs
[23:06] <ozzloy> i know i could open up a terminal and use figlet, but i'm looking for something a bit cleaner than that
[23:07] <Jacobbs> It's been three years now
[23:07] <Jacobbs> And there still aren't X-Fi drivers O.o
[23:07] <dougsko> ozzloy: boxes, maybe?
[23:08] <ozzloy> dougsko: link?
[23:08] <timo> any one know where the .htpasswd file is placed ?
[23:08] <ozzloy> "linux boxes" is returning a lot of noise on google
[23:08] <Jordan_U> Jacobbs: Don't worry, they'll be out about one and a half months after you throw away your hardware in frustration
[23:08] <Jacobbs> Well I won't throw it away
[23:08] <Jacobbs> Because it works in Windows :P
[23:09] <Jacobbs> But I guess it means I'll have to use my onboard :/
[23:09] <Jacobbs> Not that i usually listen to crap when I program
[23:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Jacobbs Complain to the mfg .. no to us
[23:09] <dougsko> ozzloy: yeah i see that. you can just apt-get it and check the man page. its really small
[23:09] <Jordan_U> Jacobbs: Thanks for ruining it for the rest of us then, now there'll never be drivers
[23:09] <Jacobbs> :P
[23:09] <Jacobbs> Sorry guys.
[23:09] <ozzloy> dougsko: oh cool.  so the package is called boxes then?
[23:09] <dougsko> yeah
[23:09] <ozzloy> yep
[23:09] <ozzloy> thaks
[23:09] <ozzloy> thanks*
[23:10] <bobertdos> Gizmo_The_Great: It's best to do it via the terminal, using sudo ln -s
[23:10] <unik> hi all...
[23:10] <dougsko> ozzloy: yep. i dont know if thats exactly what youre looking for, but it is kinda neat
[23:10] <airtonix> Gizmo_The_Great, you can make symlinks with nautilus by using the "ctrl+shift and dragging the object" operation
[23:11] <Gizmo_The_Great> bobertdos, yeah - I just read up on that. My earlier attempts were failing because it was a directory and, as you say, you need the -s swithc for that
[23:11] <unik> do i need drivers for my radeon 9000?
[23:11] <saintbob> Warning: Expected declaration but found '*'.  Skipped to next declaration.
[23:11] <saintbob> Source File: http://www.yahoo.com/
[23:11] <saintbob> Line: 220
[23:11] <FloodBot2> saintbob: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:12] <unik> or ubuntu installation is ok
[23:12] <unik> ?
[23:12] <bobertdos> unik: The restricted drivers should work just fine for that card if you need 3D support.
[23:12] <bobertdos> unik: Otherwise, the open-source drivers should also be just fine.
[23:13] <timo> join #apache
[23:13] <saintbob> browsers still acting funny Firefox still won't access my yahoo mail account Konqueror does but only opens some emails same with opera can access account but wont open inbox
[23:13] <saintbob> the browser that works the best is konqueror and only on some sites
[23:13] <saintbob> firefox works fine under windows xp on this machine:(
[23:13] <Jack_Sparrow> saintbob You running kubuntu?
[23:14] <unik> thanx
[23:14] <saintbob> nope ubuntu 8.04
[23:14] <Jack_Sparrow> saintbob so why knoq?
[23:14] <Jack_Sparrow> konq?
[23:14] <uffo> can anyone give me VLC 0.9.2 .deb file for ubuntu 8.04, synaptic destroys whole ubuntu so i must find pack with all libs
[23:14] <strAlan> is there a video editing package for Ubuntu ?
[23:14] <saintbob> whats kong
[23:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !find vlc
[23:15] <uffo> or better withball libs
[23:15] <Jack_Sparrow> saintbob konqueror
[23:15] <ozzloy> dougsko: yeah not quite what i want
[23:15] <airtonix> using gnome-do, how do you retrieve the stored url
[23:15] <ozzloy> dougsko: neat though
[23:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !info vlc
[23:15] <vladanian> strAlan: kino is pretty sweet
[23:15] <strAlan> vladanian, I'll check it out
[23:15] <ubuntu> !info skype
[23:15] <kindofabuzz> saintbob, try clearing your cache and all cookies for yahoo
[23:15] <airtonix> using gnome-do, how do you retrieve the stored url for the pastebin plugin
[23:15] <Jack_Sparrow> uffo the version in our repos is 0.8.6.
[23:15] <dougsko> ozzloy: oh well, sorry :p
[23:16] <jedimind> i installed 3rd party drivers from nvidia's site on my pc, and every time i reboot - it seems like its trying to use some sort of default drivers instead ...
[23:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !skype > ubuntu
[23:16] <saintbob> why does konqueror run the best is beyond this ubuntu newbie and how do u clear the cache
[23:16] <uffo> i need 0.9.2 not stoneage 0.8.6
[23:16] <kindofabuzz> saintbob, in your options
[23:16] <georgy_28_> uffo : http://linuxowns.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/new-vlc-player-092/ at your own risk !
[23:16] <uffo> there is no deb
[23:17] <uffo> file
[23:17] <Jack_Sparrow> uffo build it yourself if you must have the latest
[23:17] <airtonix> saintbob, i think it also depends on your hardware...gecko is very much like that
[23:17] <ceil420> VLC is a pita to compile from source ;x
[23:17] <uffo> no i need binary like windows has
[23:17] <bobertdos> uffo: I don't know if you're going to have much luck. Because they haven't updated the dependencies list yet, I'm doubtful Ubuntu would even have all the dependencies available for compiling it from source.
[23:17] <ceil420> uffo, why?
[23:17] <kindofabuzz> checking his email has to do with his hardware? lol
[23:17] <Jack_Sparrow> uffo you wont find it here
[23:17] <ceil420> bobertdos, it will in October :x
[23:18] <airtonix> saintbob, konqueror runs quicker since it use the more efficient html renderer webkit
[23:18] <MrD> is there a new version of ubuntu comong soon?
[23:18] <kindofabuzz> airtonix, tried ff 3.1?
[23:18] <Killeroid> uffo check getdeb.net they usually have the newest verisons of a  lot of stuff(well, the important programs)
[23:18] <bobertdos> ceil420: you're most likely correct :)
[23:18] <Jacobbs> This blows
[23:18] <Jacobbs> I only have 650meg discs lol
[23:19] <Jacobbs> Can I put the ISO on a dvd?
[23:19] <airtonix> saintbob, not sure, but i'm just using default ff that came with 8.04
[23:19] <roukoun> hi everyone...! i have a problem with opera's fonts and i think that's it because of the language configured in opera... so, how to change language in opera 9?
[23:19] <kindofabuzz> Jacobbs, yes
[23:19] <Killeroid> Jacobbs: there is a dvd iso
[23:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Jacobbs it is supposed to work, I have not tried it
[23:19] <ceil420> roukoun, no Edit > Preferences in opera?
[23:19] <roukoun> hi everyone...! i have a problem with opera's fonts and i think that's it because of the language configured in opera... so, how to change the encoding to support greek and english?
[23:19] <Jacobbs> Well, I downloaded the normal iso
[23:19] <Jacobbs> BUt I don't have big enough CDs
[23:19] <ceil420> roukoun, also, more patience plz
[23:19] <kindofabuzz> roukoun, use FF =)
[23:19] <Jacobbs> so if a dvd works, that's cool too
[23:20] <makson88> Hi guys
[23:20] <Jack_Sparrow> roukoun opera isnt part of ubuntu... the do have a faq page
[23:20] <makson88> I Just loaded up ubuntu and the font at the logon screen is like 78 size cant even see what im typing.. any ideas/
[23:20] <davidroderick> I want ruby to be ruby18 and then I want to change something like an environment variable which will make ruby be ruby19
[23:20] <Jacobbs> Using my nVidia 8800GTS on Ubuntu is possible right?
[23:21] <Jacobbs> I went to their site, they kept spitting me the XP drivers
[23:21] <bobertdos> !envy > Jacobbs
[23:21] <airtonix> Jacobbs, im using nvidia 8800gt right now
[23:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Jacobbs yes but 8k series is costing nvidia millions in recalls..
[23:21] <airtonix> Jacobbs, didnt have to use envy
[23:21] <ceil420> Jack_Sparrow, oh?
[23:21] <airtonix> Jacobbs, guess im the lucky one
[23:22] <Jack_Sparrow> ceil420 yes
[23:22] <ceil420> i didn't know that :x
[23:22] <Jacobbs> Yea, but those are mostly the newer 8800GT and the laptop parts
[23:22] <bobertdos> Jack_Sparrow: Interesting, I wasn't aware of that either.
[23:22] <maxb> I have a rather old xorg.conf, dating back to Dapper. How can I ask Ubuntu to generate roughly what would be put in xorg.conf in a new install?
[23:22] <Jack_Sparrow> ceil420 mostly the mobile chipset
[23:22] <ceil420> ah
[23:22] <Jacobbs> I'll google this envy thing O.o
[23:22] <ceil420> laptops suck, anyway
[23:22] <jrib> !xconfig > maxb
[23:22] <ceil420> prolly overheating
[23:22] <Jack_Sparrow> maxb run livecd and copy the xorg
[23:22] <saintbob> error report keeps saying unexpected declaration in line 1
[23:22] <Jacobbs> My laptop is Vista, no way I'm dual booting that Dell pos
[23:23] <Jacobbs> well it's not a pos
[23:23] <jedimind> vista :(
[23:23] <jimcooncat> is it possible to netboot using grub?
[23:23] <bobertdos> Jacobbs: I just gave that as an option, but if airtonix says he got it to work without envy, I'd try whatever he did first :D
[23:23] <Jack_Sparrow> saintbob what exactly does lsb_release -a give you from a terminal
[23:23] <Jacobbs> Well, I'm thinking of just using their official drivers
[23:23] <Jacobbs> I won't be doing anything crazy video in Ubuntu
[23:23] <airtonix> Jacobbs, just use the standard steps outlined in the help.ubuntu.com site..
[23:23] <tbwen> How do you install multiple packages? or if it's possible at all?
[23:24] <Jack_Sparrow> tbwen synaptic package manager
[23:24] <ceil420> tbwen, sudo apt-get install package1 package2 package 3 etc
[23:24] <Jacobbs> Thanks airtonix
[23:24] <tbwen> I have to install 50, do i have to type one by one?
[23:24] <ceil420> tbwen, Synaptic :)
[23:24] <Jack_Sparrow> tbwen YOu need to tpe the names inmanually or use synaptic
[23:24] <OrangeKyo> tbwen, make a script?
[23:24] <airtonix> Jacobbs, i could be vague, but i definitly did not install any exotic packages like envy
[23:25] <tbwen> so i can just type package after another and it will install them with one apt-get install command?
[23:25] <Jacobbs> Well I'm reading that help thing now
[23:25] <saintbob> hardy
[23:25] <ceil420> yeah tbwen
[23:25] <airtonix> Jacobbs, you will want the nvidia-xsettings package for the similar gui control you get in windows
[23:25] <Jack_Sparrow> saintbob what exactly does lsb_release -a give you from a terminal
[23:25] <tbwen> ceil420: thanks.
[23:25] <szal> OrangeKyo: that'd be more work than necessary, I guess ;)
[23:25] <saintbob> ubuntu 8.04 hardy
[23:25] <Andeh> does anyone here use their iPod with Amarok?
[23:26] <Jacobbs> One step at a time
[23:26] <Jacobbs> lol
[23:26] <OrangeKyo> szal, lol i dont think i know what im talking about i guess ^^.
[23:26] <szal> hehe
[23:26] <Jack_Sparrow> saintbob Your issues might be from some of the customizing you have done to your system..  What have you changed in your sources.list
[23:26] <tbwen> OMG. i did not know you can type package after another.... i was going to do it one by one xD
[23:27] <Andeh> I just updated a bunch of stuff in Amarok and want to take the changes to my iPod too, how do I do this?
[23:27] <airtonix> Andeh, when i had a working ipod...i used something called floola
[23:27] <saintbob> where can i go to look at it
[23:27] <Jack_Sparrow> saintbob sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[23:27] <papaj122> does anyone have acer aspire one ?
[23:27] <Jacobbs> Oh boy
[23:28] <Jacobbs> setting up Ubuntu should be fun
[23:28] <jedimind> i installed 3rd party drivers from nvidia's site on my pc, and every time i reboot - it seems like its trying to use some sort of default drivers instead ... so i have to contstantly reinstall the drivers each time i boot ... any ideas ?
[23:28] <airtonix> Andeh, its a one file program, so its totally portable...ends up feeling like a clone of itunes...
[23:28] <Andeh> lol, i have yamipod like that
[23:28] <Killeroid> papaj122: just state your problem, it might be a generic problem and someone can help you
[23:28] <Andeh> airtonix: hmm. could i get floola to scan my iTunes folder (NOT library, Amarok updated only the folder) and compare it to the iPod, and sync only the changes?
[23:28] <airtonix> Andeh,one thing yamipod didnt do for me was...convert video and move it there
[23:28] <Andeh> otherwise i have to copy over 23 GB of stuff
[23:28] <generic> did someone ask for help?
[23:28] <generic> :P
[23:29] <papaj122> i have problem with card reader
[23:29] <abhijeet> Hey guys, does anyone know how to change the font size in the logon screen
[23:29] <Jack_Sparrow> papaj122 internal card readers are tough
[23:29] <airtonix> Andeh, test it out on a duplicated portion of your library...i think it only works against files/folders
[23:29] <abhijeet> it's not in logon preference
[23:29] <generic> papaj122, i have a medion akoya (e1210)
[23:29] <generic> is your card reader a usb one?
[23:29] <jedimind> Jack_Sparrow: got a link on how to disable nvidia-glx and glx-new drivers from trying to load ?
[23:29] <generic> lusb for us
[23:29] <Jacobbs> Just to double check, burning the .iso onto a dvd should work right?
[23:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !blacklist
[23:29] <PurityOfEssence> Hello. Question: can the installer resize ntfs?
[23:30] <papaj122> I made evertything what is in instruction but when i have my card in slot when I turn on the computer evertythink is OK
[23:30] <generic> papaj122, lsusb i meant to type
[23:30] <Jack_Sparrow> PurityOfEssence yes, but defrag first
[23:30] <jrib> !away > datacrusher
[23:30] <papaj122> but when I will put the card into the reade
[23:30] <Killeroid> PurityOfEssence: and dont forget to backup just incase something fuds up
[23:30] <papaj122> when I'm using the comupet it doent see
[23:30] <bobertdos> PurityOfEssence: and make sure the ntfs partition doesn't get mounted while you install -- I just helped another person with that.
[23:30] <Jack_Sparrow> papaj122 is this internal on a laptop
[23:30] <airtonix> Andeh, http://www.floola.com/modules/wiwimod/
[23:31] <airtonix> check out that feature list
[23:31] <papaj122> yes its internal
[23:31] <Jack_Sparrow> papaj122 You can get external usb ones for under $5 that will work fine
[23:31] <PurityOfEssence> bobertdos: why would it be mounted at install?
[23:32] <papaj122> in aspire One - i read the faq in ubuntu site but it doesnt wokr
[23:32] <espacious> why i get this on apache
[23:32] <espacious> http://pastebin.com/m6a8d3f4e
[23:32] <Jack_Sparrow> papaj122 You can also see the laptop help page to see if anyone has got it going in the same hardware
[23:32] <papaj122> and the second problem is internal MIC
[23:32] <espacious> can someone point me?
[23:32] <papaj122> it doesn't work in ubuntu
[23:32] <papaj122> the external is ok
[23:32] <Jack_Sparrow> espacious /j #apache
[23:32] <papaj122> but internal not
[23:33] <espacious> already there
[23:33] <papaj122> the internal camer and speakers work ok
[23:33] <Jack_Sparrow> papaj122 understood, and many many have not been able to get working
[23:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !enter > papaj122
[23:33] <ozzloy> is there a way of placing a window as you open it from commandline?  something like --position="right side of screen" or something?  is this program dependent?
[23:34] <jrib> ozzloy: two solutions.  1) You can use devilspie.  2) A lot of apps accept --geometry
[23:34] <PurityOfEssence> ozzloy: i thought windows open where you left them  for desktop apps at least
[23:35] <PurityOfEssence> geometry will size windows
[23:35] <ozzloy> PurityOfEssence: that's not quite what i want
[23:35] <nonewmsgs> kmail is pissing me off.  all in a sudden it isn't using kwallet.  i don't know why.  kwalet is still working with other passwords
[23:35] <ozzloy> oh yeah, i think geometry has xoffset and yoffset or something
[23:35] <sahak> is it possible to hibernate into a file and not into a partition?
[23:36] <airtonix> sahak, yes but it would involve setting up all your swap again.
[23:36] <makson88> on my logon window the FONT is HUGE ?? why is this ?
[23:36] <bobertdos> PurityOfEssence: Honestly, it shouldn't. I just helped a guy though who, for some reason, had that happen.
[23:37] <Killeroid> !kubuntu > nonewmsgs
[23:37] <sahak> airtonix: well that's not a problem. i would rather have a swap file instead of a swap partition
[23:37] <nonewmsgs> this is under gnome :P
[23:38] <yaddle> Hi, so after I boot my computer, if I use flash in a web browser (i.e watching a video with sound) I can no longer hear sound from audio files on my hard drive. If I open an audio file on my drive first I can't hear sound in flash. Any ideas???
[23:38] <saintbob> i'm still here download updates :)
[23:38] <nonewmsgs> so using qt apps in a gtk envirements means i should ask here or in #kubuntu
[23:38] <Jack_Sparrow> saintbob It shouldnt take that long to post a sources.list
[23:38] <J-n> Is there a way to watch stuff from fox.com with linux?
[23:38] <saintbob> how do I post it here?
[23:38] <sahak> airtonix: is there a howto describing how to setup a hibernation file?
[23:38] <Killeroid> J-n: useragent switcher firefox
[23:38] <jrib> nonewmsgs: either, but you're more likely to find help with kde apps in #kubuntu as there are more users who use kde apps there
[23:39] <Jack_Sparrow> saintbob run the command I gave you
[23:39] <zvacet> !pastebin | saintbob
[23:39] <airtonix> sahak, hibernation just makes use of your swap...so in your case you need to go from using a swap partition...to using a swap file.
[23:40] <airtonix> sahak, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[23:40] <jedimind> are they any better (customizable) panels that can be recommended for ubuntu ?
[23:40] <airtonix> sahak, section there on how to extend or change swap
[23:40] <Jack_Sparrow> jedimind I like cairo dock.. mine looks like mac osx
[23:41] <nonewmsgs> thanks jrib
[23:41] <Daft_Punk> jedimind, i like awn, it looks just like mac osx
[23:42] <Killeroid> jedimind= tint
[23:42] <sahak> airtonix: i think there is a difference between suspend-to-disk (uses partition) and suspend-to-file(uses swap file)
[23:42] <airtonix> sahak, what would that be?
[23:42] <|unjustice|> jrib: so I compiled the nspluginwrapper .bz2 file and ran sudo make, and ended up with a bunch of other files in the folder...what else do I do to make it run?
[23:43] <Qster> sudo make install ?
[23:43] <Killeroid> jedimind: screenshot showing tint at the bottom of the screen (http://flickr.com/photos/killeroid/2715481865/sizes/o/)
[23:43] <jedimind> im talking more about the top dock w/ the date, desktops etc
[23:43] <FyR3> eai galera alguem pode me ajudar como que eu faço pra abri uma outra sala ?
[23:43] <Bad_Magic> anyone have any idea why snes9x wouldn't allow fullscreen unless i am running a "fullscreen" mode on a ps3? =x
[23:43] <jedimind> sory shouldve been more specifc
[23:43] <Daft_Punk> jedimind, u mean the panel?
[23:43] <FyR3> primeira vez em contato com o xchat for linux
[23:43] <jedimind> yeah i said panel :)
[23:43] <Killeroid> jedimind: try pypane;
[23:43] <flynch> I'm trying to figure out whats wrong with my volume keys... when I press them I get the graphic overlay showing a speaker & a volume meter, but it isn't changing the actual volume. I have to click on the volume control applet to change volume... any ideas?
[23:43] <jedimind> that looks nice Killeroid
[23:43] <Killeroid> *pypanel
[23:43] <Jack_Sparrow> jedimind you can move them anywhere you want
[23:43] <Killeroid> jedimind: thanks
[23:44] <jedimind> Jack_Sparrow: i know, im looking to customize it a bit more
[23:44] <flynch> on a dell d820 with hardy if thats relevant
[23:44] <|unjustice|> anyone here know how to get npluginwrapper to install on a 32 bit machine, in order to get sound to play in flash vids in Mozilla?
[23:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !chroot
[23:44] <Killeroid> |unjustice|: just install libflashsupport
[23:44] <FyR3> valeus ja consegui
[23:44] <Daft_Punk> Killeroid, how did u get ur panel like that (what theme)
[23:45] <Killeroid> !fr > FyR3
[23:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !br > FyR3
[23:45] <bobertdos> !pt | FyR3
[23:45] <Killeroid> Daft_Punk: i am using tint for my  panel and trayer for system tray
[23:45] <sarir> lol
[23:45] <Killeroid> Daft_Punk: i also shutdoen gnome panel, i dont use it
[23:45] <DuKeS> i need help getting my resolution to work :S it's locked at 800x600 i tried enabling the restricted drivers but still locked
[23:45] <delta9thc1> :-)
[23:45] <plytheman> who wants to help me figure out the networking between my XP and Heron? =D
[23:45] <|unjustice|> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, I started to convert the binary and install it, but I am not sure it worked because I still have no sound in flash
[23:45] <sarir> delta9thc1, hi
[23:46] <sahak> airtonix: for example CONFIG_HIBERNATION says that it does not have Suspend-to-swapfile support
[23:46] <Daft_Punk> Killeroid, i didnt see trayer in the repos
[23:46] <Bad_Magic> anyone have any idea why snes9x wouldn't allow fullscreen unless i am running a "fullscreen" mode on a ps3? =x
[23:47] <brainsonfire> hi, does anyone know why xorg would use xorg.conf.failsafe instead of xorg.conf?
[23:47] <brainsonfire> i have no idea
[23:47] <brainsonfire> since ive upgraded to ibex yesterday, im in low graphics mode :(
[23:47] <Jack_Sparrow> brainsonfire nvidia didnt detect monitor settings and available res
[23:47] <bobertdos> |unjustice|: If you're on a 32-bit machine, there is absolutely no purpose in installing, let alone compiling nspluginwrapper. Like Jack_Sparrow said, did you try installing libflashsupport (in the reopos)?
[23:47] <plytheman> does anyone have any idea why I can't find my windows box over my network?
[23:47] <yaddle> Hi, so after I boot my computer, if I use flash in a web browser (i.e watching a video with sound) I can no longer hear sound from audio files on my hard drive. If I open an audio file on my drive first I can't hear sound in flash. Any ideas???
[23:48] <brainsonfire> thanks Jack_Sparrow
[23:48] <brainsonfire> what can i do ?
[23:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !res > brainsonfire
[23:48] <simNIX> DuKeS, try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973&highlight=refresh+rate+howto
[23:48] <Jack_Sparrow> !sound
[23:48] <bobertdos> yaddle: That is a known bug in Pulse. Switch everything over to ALSA to try and work around it.
[23:48] <dr_willis> plytheman,  miss configured samba/shares or firewall on windows box. You could try the samba smbclient command to scan for shares, or some other tools.  - also be sure you try to access it by ip, in case the hostname is not seen/in etc/hosts file
[23:49] <yaddle> bobertdos: thanks :)
[23:49] <dr_willis> plytheman,  the 'samba doc' package has several html books on samba confiuring and troubleshooting also. Worth a read. :)
[23:49] <Khisanth> plytheman: common causes of that for me has been firewall settings on the windows machine
[23:49]  * Bad_Magic sighs
[23:49] <plytheman> maybe a firewall, i think its definitely on the windows side of things
[23:50] <Jack_Sparrow> see also port forwarding
[23:50] <dr_willis> plytheman,  for starters see if the 2 box's can ping each other. :)  Then perhaps try ssh/winscp see if that gets through.
[23:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm > brainsonfire
[23:50] <Bad_Magic> anyone have any idea why snes9x wouldn't allow fullscreen unless i am running a "fullscreen" mode on a ps3? =x
[23:51] <plytheman> 2 xp boxes and I just got my laptop with ubuntu, used to be that I could share folders between the XP boxes, and initially with ubuntu, now I can still get online, but nothing between computers =S
[23:51] <saintbob> pastebin | saintbob
[23:51] <saintbob> ??????????????????????
[23:51]  * plytheman hates and sucks at network issues
[23:51] <bobertdos> Jack_Sparrow: I am praying for progress with Pulse in Ibex. I'm getting sick of telling people how buggy it is :p
[23:51] <Jack_Sparrow> saintbob sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cat /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[23:51] <Jack_Sparrow> bobertdos agreed
[23:52] <dr_willis> plytheman,  theres 'network' issues.. then theres  'services' issues. :) Your machines seem to be networked.  just not configured for samba/smb correctly
[23:52] <Killeroid> Daft_Punk: sudo apt-get install trayer
[23:52] <plytheman> yeah, I've no idea what samba is... I'll go read up on it
[23:52] <dr_willis> plytheman,  if you are not doing a lot of file transfers, I find winscp works decently well for the occasional file transfer to/from  the linux machines
[23:52] <Daft_Punk> Killeroid, thanks i did that, i just dont see where trayer is located to run it
[23:52] <dr_willis> plytheman,  samba is what gives linux the 'network neighborhood' stuff :)
[23:53] <ej> i cant change my grub menu, it wont let me save
[23:53] <Jack_Sparrow> ej gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:53] <saintbob> http://pastebin.com/f63795577
[23:53] <dr_willis> plytheman,  the samba-doc package has html books on the topic.   One of those things thats worth reading if you plan on using  it a lot.
[23:53] <plytheman> well, even from one xp to the other I can't seem to get the network places to work
[23:53] <makson88> can someone help me out here.. -> Logon fonts are HUGE!
[23:53] <ej> tried that it wont load
[23:53] <plytheman> pinging worked from one to the other tho...
[23:53] <makson88> nothing seems to be working to fix it
[23:53] <Bad_Magic> plytheman: make sure your xp boxes are both in the same workgroup
[23:54]  * plytheman goes to get samba-doc
[23:54] <dr_willis> plytheman,  check the workgroup names also. also try entering the  share name //machinename/share   and so on.. it can be annoying finding whats going on.
[23:54] <plytheman> both should be on MSHOME
[23:54] <simNIX> plytheman, or windows to linux conectivty I use Samba - and for oacasionaly sftp over ssh2 with filezilla
[23:54] <simNIX> or=for
[23:54] <Bad_Magic> plytheman: double check, that gets me from time to time
[23:54] <Jack_Sparrow> saintbob I see nothing wrong in there, did you just make any changes to it?
[23:54] <dr_willis> plytheman,  im not sure what the default workgroup for linux box is. it may be 'workgroup' :)
[23:54] <plytheman> right oh, lemme try messing with windows a bit
[23:54] <dr_willis> plytheman,  i also tend to install the full samba packages on ubuntu, and set up the homes directory to be shared.
[23:55] <Bad_Magic> now if i can just figure out why the hell X is bombing out with snes9x id be a happy camper
[23:55] <plytheman> last time I just found it in Windows Network > MSHOME > Media > etc etc on ubuntu no prob
[23:55] <Killeroid> Daft_Punk: perosnally, i start trayer with this command ( trayer --edge bottom --align right --widthtype request --height 18 --expand false --transparent true --alpha 255 --margin 8 --distance 8)
[23:55] <Killeroid> Daft_Punk: withotu the parentheses of cource
[23:55] <saintbob> i just updated ubuntu and they may of helped i'm accessing my email now and some other website i couldn't before thanks
[23:55] <bobertdos> ej: You don't get prompted for a password or gedit won't open?
[23:55] <Daft_Punk> Killeroid, is there a gui for it though? i was looking for the command to start that
[23:55] <ej> it opens but there is nothing there
[23:55] <Killeroid> Daft_Punk: i made an entry under sessions to run that command anytime i log in
[23:55] <Jack_Sparrow> ej you have the path wrong
[23:56] <Killeroid> Daft_Punk: no gui that i know of
[23:56] <ej> :X
[23:56] <Jack_Sparrow> ej gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst                  MENU.LST   in lower case
[23:56] <plytheman> on 'run' should it be: \\MSHOME\Media\folder name?
[23:56] <plytheman> cus thats telling me nothing is found
[23:56] <dr_willis> plytheman,  if this is a new ubuntu isntall. you may want to update/upgrade also - be sure you are up to date.. the earlier releases had a few bugs in the samba stuff i recall
[23:57] <bobertdos> ej: and yes, that first / is necessary
[23:57] <ej> thnx
[23:57] <dr_willis> plytheman,  theres also other tools that browse/scan the windows-share-network  You are using the gnome-file manager to do it. :)  Theres 'smbclient'  (cli tool) and other gui tools as well
[23:57] <plytheman> funny enough I look up and it says that there's one update, RDESKTOP, but dunno if thats related at all
[23:58] <dr_willis> rdesktop = remote desktop
[23:58] <dr_willis> i think
[23:58] <Jack_Sparrow> dr_willis yes