[00:00] <turtle^s0up> hi all, does anyone know why DNS /etc/resolv.conf  automatically changes?
[00:00] <floh79> turtle^s0up: Maybe you're running KNetworkManager
[00:00] <floh79> turtle^s0up: Or using dhcp?
[00:00] <turtle^s0up> wicd
[00:01] <turtle^s0up> how can i tell if i'm using dhcp
[00:01] <floh79> robinr: You mean with ndiswrapper?
[00:01] <turtle^s0up> it's just defautl install
[00:01] <turtle^s0up> no ndiswrapper
[00:01] <floh79> turtle^s0up: I'm using b43-module I didn't need install anything.
[00:01] <turtle^s0up> just wicd, because i had a wireless card with preconfigured open source drivers
[00:02] <floh79> turtle^s0up: Sorry, I dunno about wicd.
[00:02] <turtle^s0up> right now wired connection, no wireless
[00:02] <turtle^s0up> but /etc/resolv.conf automatically changes
[00:02] <claydoh> turtle^s0up: iirc networkmanager and maybe even wicd don't necessarily use those settings files
[00:02] <turtle^s0up> even if i add my own DNS
[00:02] <floh79> turtle^s0up: No idea but isn't there any comment in /etc/resolv.conf like "configured by..."?
[00:02] <turtle^s0up> nope
[00:02] <turtle^s0up> just goes back to my ISP dns
[00:03] <turtle^s0up> or points to the modem IP
[00:03] <floh79> Sound like its caused by dhcp.
[00:03] <floh79> turtle^s0up: did you enter IP-address manually?
[00:03] <turtle^s0up> yes
[00:04] <turtle^s0up> i have static ips
[00:04] <floh79> If you're sure you don't use NetworkManager, then doublecheck /etc/networks/interface
[00:04] <turtle^s0up> i can remove wicd if you think that's an issue
[00:04] <floh79> Ok, if you have static ip, then I dunno why resolv.conf is being changed. (in my case it happened because of NetworkManager).
[00:06] <turtle^s0up> OK, thanks.
[00:06] <floh79> No probs.
[00:06] <floh79> Well I'm leaving. Good night.
[00:07] <turtle^s0up> goodnight
[00:37] <lovre> hi all
[00:37] <lovre> i have just installed karmic, what repos should i enable?
[00:38] <lovre> i cant install skype, says no install candidate, so i suppose i dont have the right repository enabled
[00:38] <titan_ark> lovre: download it from their site
[00:38] <titan_ark> and u can  then install it
[00:38] <lovre> titan_ark: i have allways installed it via apt, so i would like to do so now.... why cant i
[00:39] <titan_ark> lovre: sorry no idea.. .
[00:39] <lovre> titan_ark: and also, it wont be updated unless i install it like this?
[00:39] <titan_ark> u will probably have to wait for some of the pros to respond then
[00:40] <BluesKaj> lovre, skype static is your best bet , it's a  not in the repos, look for this ; skype_static-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.bz2
[00:41] <lovre> BluesKaj: what is taht
[00:42] <BluesKaj> it's aversion that works on linux , and you can download it from www.skype.com
[00:44] <lovre> BluesKaj: ok, another question, why dont i get anything when i press tab in console? No auto complete anymore, and i had that beofore, its really annoying. For example, sudo apt-get install pidgin, and it cannot autocomplete pidgin. It did so before..
[00:44] <tooth_> \part
[00:44] <BluesKaj> lovre, dunno
[00:50] <topprecios> hello who use Loquendo in Ubuntu?
[00:54] <elliotjhug> Hi, I'm trying to configure a system for a beginner user where security really isn't a priority. The built in password-strength enforcement is causing me problems - how do I disable it?
[00:57] <samiet> hola
[00:57] <samiet> alguien me lee
[00:57] <kaddi> hola
[00:58] <kaddi> !es
[01:24] <hish> is there anybody try to install kubuntu 9.10 on Dell E5400
[01:24] <hish> ?
[01:53] <redIago> hey, svn seems to be giving me this weird error " error: Repository moved permanently to"
[01:53] <redIago> any ideas why?
[02:16] <marcosRz> Guys
[02:16] <marcosRz> I'm with this question here --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8751150#post8751150
[02:16] <marcosRz> Anyone knows where I can control daemons startup on KDE? On systemsetting there is only KDE daemons, I want to control startup of crond/mysqld/apache2d and so on. GNOME has this tool, but I can't find one for KDE
[02:37] <s3lcuk> anyone has wireshark complex command line defitions for ubuntu
[02:43] <vinnie_> can someone help me with samba? I share a folder via the share tab in properties dialogue. I can access the shared folders from my windows machine, but I dont have write access. How do I correct this?
[02:59] <wardred> Samba can be a trick to configure properly.  Hate to say it, but I think that's one of the things I'd point you to google and / or the samba sight for.
[03:00] <wardred> Yes, Samba will share with Windows, even Vista or 7, but you really want it configured properly.
[03:00]  * wardred - looks at my own mess of a configured samba share...hides the details.
[03:04] <kaddi> does konqueror use addblocking by default?
[03:05] <kaddi> ah found it
[03:10] <wardred> I'd guess no, but since you found it, does it?
[03:11] <wardred> Or at least if it's built in, it's not on by default?
[03:18] <vinnie_> wardred: did you use the gui or smb.conf?
[03:18] <donn> new user to ubuntu here
[03:19] <wardred> I used smb.conf.  The gui may be a better way to do things if you're new to Linux/samba
[03:19] <wardred> I spent a bit of time on the manual / how to pages to see how to get things the way I wanted.  Basically I wanted a big read/write share that required a password.
[03:20] <kaddi> hi donn :) hope you like ubuntu :)
[03:20] <vinnie_> wardred: im not so sure... I open the samba settings from the system settings menu, and Im blown away
[03:33] <torasuku> Good KDE/Qt FTP client?
[03:54] <sabgenton> what is eqivalent to gedit in  kde
[03:55] <Tm_T> sabgenton: Kate
[03:56] <sabgenton> Tm_T: i thought there was a more simple one?
[03:57] <Tm_T> ah, simple, then its Kwrite
[03:57] <sabgenton> wait kedit?
[03:57] <sabgenton> is kwrite good for editing scripts and things?
[03:57] <Tm_T> no, Kate is (:)
[03:57] <Tm_T> well yeah, both works very well
[03:58] <sabgenton> Tm_T: I know im being anoying but how do you spell them on the comandline
[03:58] <sabgenton> kate kedit and kwrite
[03:58] <sabgenton> do you need capitals?
[03:58] <sabgenton> or lower case
[03:58] <Tm_T> all lowercase
[03:59] <Tm_T> sabgenton: and no you're not annoying (:
[03:59] <sabgenton> spelt like that ^
[03:59] <Tm_T> ye
[03:59] <sabgenton> ?
[04:00] <sabgenton> thx
[04:00] <sabgenton> :D
[04:00] <sabgenton> does kedit exist still?
[04:00] <sabgenton> rings a bell
[04:00] <sabgenton> or did I just make that up
[04:01] <sabgenton> can't see it anyware
[04:01] <sabgenton> kate and kwrite
[04:01] <sabgenton> ok
[04:07] <Gamarok__> hi guys
[04:11] <OKATESTYING> hi, i want to make a program include version numbers of all major libraries used at compile time, and gcc version. I am on ubuntu how do i make this happen?
[04:12] <OKATESTYING> what i am asking is how do i substitute enviormental variables into source code?
[04:35] <papapapap> hi! i'm a happy user of Karmic, but since today I acquired a 24" monitor I want to give Kubuntu a "pro" try since I suspect i will be really cool. However, I don't want to lose my current installed applications, so the question is: is there any way to install Kubuntu and still keep my installed applications? Thanx!!
[04:37] <Tm_T> papapapap: you mean you have Ubuntu currently?
[04:38] <papapapap> Tm_T yes!
[04:39] <papapapap> let's say i want to give kubuntu a try and if i get the feeling with it then i will clean install kubuntu and reinstall all my apps
[04:42] <Tm_T> papapapap: well, Ubuntu and Kubuntu are same thing, just different default apps
[04:43] <Tm_T> papapapap: so, you can just use your already existing Ubuntu and install kubuntu-desktop package
[04:43] <Tm_T> papapapap: then you just choose between KDE and GNOME session in login screen
[04:43] <crimsun> meaning that Ubuntu and its derivatives share a package repository but what is installed by default can cause problems
[04:44] <papapapap> Tm_T, ok, what should i install, kubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-kde4-desktop!?
[04:44] <Tm_T> papapapap: if you're in Karmic, kubuntu-desktop
[04:44] <Tm_T> crimsun: hm?
[04:45] <crimsun> Tm_T: I'm referring specifically to various audio backends and their necessary Phonon configurations
[04:46] <papapapap> crimsun, hi, yeah, i know what you mean, i will try for a while kde and look what happen. in the end i will clean install kubuntu or just recover the backup i will make now
[04:46] <papapapap> tnx guys :D
[05:15] <kernco> Is anyone here sharing files from their Kubuntu computers to Windows?  I have samba set up, and on windows I can see the computer and browse the directory tree, but when I try to play a video file it doesn't work.
[05:31] <mac> testing
[05:36] <Guest23904> running kde4.3.2 kubuntu 9.10 system keeps booting into the terminal,,have edited grub and about a thousand other things, i'm tired out any help?
[05:54] <theera> Hello
[05:55] <theera> Who can told me regarding Vedio net protocal on Kubuntu?
[07:56] <naftilos76> Has a repo been setup for Kubuntu, reg 4.3.5? Does anyone know?
[08:01] <soupline> bonjour
[08:01] <soupline> hello*
[08:10] <OKATESTYING> hi, i want to make a program include version numbers of all major libraries used at compile time, and gcc version. I am on ubuntu how do i make this happen?
[08:10] <OKATESTYING> what i am asking is how do i substitute enviormental variables into source code?
[08:24] <tony32> my network manager icon is gone now in the plasma panel. is there a way to recover it? i can't connect on my linux partition
[08:51] <rasool> hi
[09:20] <nikihr> Hello, i just installed kubuntu from ubuntu with apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. How can i now remove ubuntu apps and whole gnome?
[09:24] <Tm_T> !purekde | nikihr
[09:35] <mauri> im not able to use firefox in openoffice
[09:51] <mauri> Aizram: non si puo sbaglaire
[09:51] <mauri> im not able to use firefox in openoffice
[09:51] <tony32> anyone know if kubuntu will uninstall my beta packages if i uncheck the beta in the repository?
[09:52] <Neremor> hello!
[09:53] <Neremor> why isn't "eclipse-cdt" in the repos anymore?
[10:50] <mudassar> some problems please somebody help
[10:50] <mudassar> first is "(gedit:6852): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[10:51] <mudassar> I did "/usr/X11R6/bin/xhost +" but got the same error
[10:56] <emeteo> mudassar: maybe you xserver doesn't accept tcp connections,
[10:56] <mudassar> how to fix that ?
[10:57] <emeteo> go to /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc
[10:57] <emeteo> comment "-nolisten tcp" with a #
[10:57] <emeteo> in ServerArgsLocal
[11:03] <mauri> im not albe to start firefox from a link in the openoffice document....konquer still to be used
[11:03] <mudassar> i m sorry, but can you tel me how to find -nolisten tcp using vi ?? :)
[11:04] <emeteo> with / key
[11:04] <emeteo> write "/nolisten
[11:06] <mudassar> yes got
[11:06] <mudassar> I switched off the whole line
[11:06] <mudassar> including the serverlocals
[11:06] <mudassar> ServerArgsLocal
[11:07] <mudassar> still I am getting the same error
[11:07] <mudassar> No protocol specified
[11:07] <mudassar> (gedit:8820): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[11:08] <mauri> im not albe to start firefox from a link in the openoffice document....konquer still to be used
[11:09] <mudassar> when I write "set" it shows me DISPLAY=:0
[11:09] <mudassar> how to change that ?
[11:12] <Speedy2> Hey all.  Where does Kubuntu 9.04/KDE3.5 series store font settings?  I *really* like the look and feel of it and want to move the settings to another machine.
[11:15] <ubuntu> brazil?
[11:18] <mudassar> gedit works for normal user but when i run it for root user the following error comes Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:0.0
[11:19] <mauri> im not albe to start firefox from a link in the openoffice document....konquer still to be used
[11:31] <terran4000> Does anyone have a solution to the dell throttlegate issue?
[11:31] <BeatRit> whats the issue?
[11:32] <terran4000> It's called the ThrottleGate
[11:32] <terran4000> more or less
[11:32] <BeatRit> ill google it, hold on
[11:32] <terran4000> The laptop scales down because it "overheats" though it really is not
[11:32] <terran4000> There is a workaround in Windows
[11:33] <terran4000> Though ... I haven't heard of one for linux, I was wondering if anyone knew of one.
[11:33] <BeatRit> my logic tells me to ask if theres a bios update for it?
[11:33] <terran4000> There have been, 2 actually
[11:33] <terran4000> Yet neither has helped
[11:33] <martinjh99> Is this the best place to ask about KDE4.4RC bugs?
[11:33] <insanepotato> hi all =]
[11:34] <terran4000> martinjh99: for kde specific things, probably #kde is your best bet
[11:34] <BeatRit> terran4000, "According to reader postings, the issue can be triggered by playing a video or performing another processor-intensive task."
[11:35] <terran4000> Yar
[11:35] <terran4000> Agreed
[11:35] <terran4000> It is
[11:35] <martinjh99> Well this is 4.4 from the Kubuntu beta repos... I'm guessing here or a devel channel would be ok...
[11:35] <terran4000> Though I need said 'processor intensive' tasks, in my case I need to use a VM for programming
[11:35] <insanepotato> i compiled a static library using my sytem, running a x64 version of nix. would this file still link and work fine on a x32 version of nix?
[11:36] <BeatRit> martinjh99, if its for "complaining" about bugs, youre at the wrong channel mate, theres a reason for the RC label
[11:36] <BeatRit> hm, lemme keep searching terran4000
[11:36] <martinjh99> :) True
[11:36] <Peace-> :)
[11:36] <Peace-> hi
[11:36] <martinjh99> Ah welll never mind
[11:36] <terran4000> BeatRit: danke shin
[11:37] <terran4000> insanepotato: nope
[11:37] <insanepotato> oh shux. ty terran4000.
[11:37] <ngong> where can I find a networkmanager dialog?
[11:38] <terran4000> insanepotato: only x64 is compatible with x32 ONLY with 32bit libraries installed ... x32 is NOT compatible with x64. Would be nice though :-P
[11:38] <Peace-> ngong: systemsettings
[11:38] <Peace-> xD
[11:39] <ngong> Peace-: ok, thank you
[11:39] <BeatRit> terran4000, so far as i can see theres only a bios update
[11:39] <BeatRit> and cuz those laptops prob dont ship with Winblows preinstalled, they ignored Linux
[11:39] <terran4000> BeatRit: thanks, meh ... I guess I'll just have to wait until I can replace this laptop T.T
[11:39] <BeatRit> im gonna search some more
[11:39] <BeatRit> dont give up :p
[11:40] <mahir> menav
[11:40] <terran4000> I'm not, though I'd been searching for a linux workaround for over a month
[11:40] <terran4000> (on and off of course)
[11:40] <terran4000> T.T
[11:40] <terran4000> I'm at the point where I just want to get work done, and am debating just buying a mac
[11:41] <ngong> how can I force to try a WLAN0 reconnection ?
[11:42] <BeatRit> terran4000, prepare to feel sad when ur mac gets outdated lol
[11:42] <terran4000> :-P
[11:43] <Peace-> ngong: in the dock there is a widget like in windws...
[11:43] <BeatRit> terran4000, im gonna ask in another channel
[11:43] <Peace-> ngong: double click and it recconect you
[11:43] <terran4000> BeatRit: sweet, thanks!
[11:44] <BeatRit> tell me the exact problem so i can copy paste ok?
[11:44] <BeatRit> so i wont miss something out
[11:45] <ngong> Peace-: there is a globe symbol, if I click on there I get recommendations to install new software, is this ok?
[11:47] <insanepotato> i have a copt of UPX for windows which runs fine in kubuntu. is this normal?
[11:47] <mudassar> I have installed myphpadmin how to access that ?
[11:47] <mudassar> it says page doesn't exist
[11:49] <BeatRit> terran4000, ...?
[11:53] <terran4000> BeatRit: sorry, afk for a bit, wife problems :-P
[11:53] <BeatRit> np :p
[12:03] <terran4000> back
[12:03] <terran4000> Let's see, the exact problem
[12:04] <terran4000> Anytime the cpu is under any serious load for a while 10+min the temperature will rise, of course
[12:04] <terran4000> except the issue is that even though the temp is within safe ranges
[12:04] <terran4000> it will throttle the CPU down from 2.54ghz
[12:04] <terran4000> down to 800mghz and stay where until the temp drops at least 15 degrees C
[12:05] <terran4000> then eventually it will go back up again
[12:05] <terran4000> and then back down
[12:05] <BeatRit> hm, terran4000, would u mind joining the channel im in?
[12:05] <terran4000> Like a roller coaster, except not fun
[12:05] <terran4000> not at all, which one?
[12:05] <BeatRit> u using xchat?
[12:05] <terran4000> quassel
[12:05] <terran4000> I'm too lazy to install anything else :-P
[12:06] <BeatRit> do u have geekshed available?
[12:06] <BeatRit> thats an IRC
[12:06] <terran4000> no idea what geekshed is ...
[12:07] <BeatRit> well, this is #kubuntu at FreeNode
[12:07] <terran4000> *nod*
[12:07] <BeatRit> oh wait, would u rather use the webservice?
[12:07] <BeatRit> then u dont need to setup and such
[12:07] <terran4000> I can use this or the webservice. It all really is the same to me.
[12:07] <BeatRit> ok, go to live.pirillo.com
[12:08] <Peace-> omg pirillo here
[12:08]  * Peace- kill himself
[12:08] <BeatRit> make up a nick and click join
[12:09] <terran4000> hey, I remember this guy. He was on TechTV way back when.
[12:09] <ngong> Peace-: ok, found it, thank you .. what is the best way to install Skype?
[12:09] <BeatRit> yeah terran4000 :D
[12:09] <Peace-> !skype
[12:09] <Peace-> !ekiga
[12:10] <terran4000> any particular channel I should join in there BeatRit?
[12:10] <BeatRit> ur already in the channel terran4000, just ask ur question now :)
[12:10] <terran4000> k, danke
[12:11] <BeatRit> ur german?
[12:11] <terran4000> Nope, but I've been stuck here in the EU for over a year so I've picked up a few things
[12:11] <BeatRit> k :p
[12:12] <Peace-> LOL
[12:15] <BeatRit> terran, u might have to wait a bit >.<
[12:15] <BeatRit> theyre being slow
[12:15] <terran4000> It's only 1:15pm here ... so I've got all day.
[12:16] <BeatRit> its 13:15 here too :p
[12:18] <BeatRit> terran4000, ask again if its going too slow :p
[12:19] <BeatRit> we need to fix it asap cuz 1 month has been way too long
[12:20] <terran4000> It's just wrong, though it is mostly Dell's fault T.T
[12:20] <BeatRit> yeah
[12:21] <terran4000> Does anyone know how to get direct access to the CPU on linux? Maybe I'll just make my own CPU Clock Modulation program
[12:25] <robinr> terran4000: there are lots of CPU control programs.
[12:25] <robinr> and a lot of things can be controlled by writing to /proc/some/file
[12:25] <terran4000> robinr: I know, there is for example cpufrequtils
[12:26] <terran4000> though the problem is not that, it's a problem of the cpu being underclocked by hardware
[12:26] <justin3> hi everyone
[12:26] <terran4000> there is a workaround in windows which forces a change in the cpu clock modulation
[12:26] <terran4000> though there is no such thing in linux, as far as I know
[12:26] <terran4000> thus, i'm trying to get to the bottom of this
[12:27] <terran4000> or my laptop will get to the bottom of this very tall building at 9.8m/s^2
[12:27] <timo33672> I'm new to KPackageKit, shouln't I see lots of package names there? It's empty now, is that ok? How to populate it?
[12:27] <terran4000> timo33672: you have to search for something
[12:27] <robinr> that might get you a very low cpu frequency :)
[12:28] <terran4000> robinr: that's why I'd have to set it correctly :-P
[12:28] <terran4000> From what tests show, someone published a 54 page pdf on this issue, it is a problem of the CPU modulation going from X to ~5
[12:28] <terran4000> or so
[12:28] <timo33672> terran4000: I typed openoffice and clicked on serach - still empty
[12:29] <timo33672> terran4000: I included the skype repository, typed skype to search for, and it is still empty, what did I miss?
[12:29] <terran4000> timo33672: just to make sure we're in the same place ... to get to where you are you clicked on System Settings -> Add and Remove Software
[12:29] <terran4000> right?
[12:30] <terran4000> timo33672: if you happen to have x64 bit kubunty installed, you can't install skype that way
[12:31] <timo33672> timvdm_: it's an old PC but working, yes, we're in the same dialog
[12:32] <terran4000> so it's probably x32 ... hm
[12:32] <terran4000> :: shrug :: :-P
[12:32] <terran4000> I just use the command line for everything
[12:33] <terran4000> oh, idea
[12:33] <terran4000> maybe even though you added the repo, you forgot to update the list
[12:33] <terran4000> if you click on "Software Updates" then click refresh
[12:33] <terran4000> and then search again
[12:33] <terran4000> might help
[12:43] <timo33672> In KPackageKit I'now able to look up a package, however how do I install it from there?
[12:43] <terran4000> on the right side there is a little grey arrow
[12:44] <terran4000> click that arrow
[12:44] <terran4000> then click apply at the bottom
[12:45] <timo33672> terran4000: ok, thank you, don't know what I did wrong
[12:54] <jussi01> How does one find out whivh /dev/ a usb device is assigned?
[12:58] <terran4000> What is the average cpu/gpu temperature for a laptop?
[12:59] <tsimpson> jussi01: with dmesg or lshw, I guess
[13:02] <tsimpson> or blkid, that should help
[13:05]  * terran4000 sighs
[13:05] <terran4000> Always a love-hate relationship with my little Dell
[13:07] <terran4000> Idea!
[13:07]  * terran4000 wonders where he put the hammer
[13:29] <slow-motion> hi
[13:50] <Kanel> just for testing konversation
[13:50] <Kanel> which client do you prefer?
[13:51] <LjL> konversation
[13:51] <LjL> see also #ubuntu-bots for people's opinion polls
[13:52] <BluesKaj> howdy
[13:52] <Kanel> thx dude
[14:03]  * terran4000 sighs
[14:04] <terran4000> Anyone here have a dell laptop that have the a heat issue?
[14:04] <terran4000> *has
[14:07] <petsounds> what's the temperature?
[14:07] <terran4000> the core(s) temp goes up to at most 160F
[14:08] <greyhat> My /home harddrive are full... i havent downloaded anything to that disk, i save all my work/downloads on my 1,5TB harddrive
[14:08] <greyhat> How can i see what taking all the space
[14:09] <terran4000> gpu core was higher but still within normal ranges
[14:24] <ooangoo> hello
[14:47] <tripgo> ciao
[14:55] <tdn> How do I backup my mobile phone's contacts to my computer using Kubuntu 9.10? I have installed kmobiletools, but it does not seem to work.
[14:55] <alexandernst> How can I set the color of a windows that isn't on focus and will receive some changes? (just like that orange color in windows when somebody talks to you in messenger)
[15:21] <BeatRit> which open-sourced VoIP program runs on Linux, Windows, and Mac?
[15:21] <timo> terran4000: i have a queation my pc need tp play videos the flahplayer how can instal the flash player ? working with linux is very hard:D
[15:22] <terran4000> timo: hmm, if you openup a flashpage with firefox
[15:22] <terran4000> such as youtube and click on a video to start watching it
[15:23] <terran4000> firefox should automagically ask you if you want to install Flash
[15:23] <timo> terran4000:  i try this
[15:23] <terran4000> also
[15:23] <terran4000> you can try installing: flashplugin-nonfree
[15:23] <terran4000> and
[15:23] <terran4000> flashplugin-installer
[15:24] <timo> okaaay
[15:24] <timo>  in witch program ?
[15:24] <timo> paket manager ??
[15:24] <terran4000> from command line it should be: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[15:24] <timo> this is my first pc  lol
[15:25] <terran4000> from the 'normal' way
[15:25] <terran4000> Go to System Settings
[15:25] <terran4000> Click on Add and Remove Applications
[15:25] <timo> ok normal way please
[15:25] <terran4000> type in 'flashplugin-nonfree' in the search box, press enter
[15:25] <timo> ok
[15:25] <terran4000> then click on the little arrow on the right side of flashplugin ....
[15:25] <terran4000> and then click apply to install
[15:25] <terran4000> (and download :-P)
[15:26]  * terran4000 really thinks he should make a kubuntu 101 screencast soon
[15:29] <BeatRit> which open-sourced VoIP program runs on Linux, Windows, and Mac?
[15:29] <timo> cool the download start now
[15:29] <timo> thank you very much
[15:30] <terran4000> no problem
[15:30] <timo> ok thanks
[15:30] <TheAncientGoat> BeatRit: ekiga works on all 3 I think
[15:30] <TheAncientGoat> !ekiga
[15:30] <timo>  can i ask you evry time or other people
[15:30] <timo> linux is very cool
[15:30] <timo> lol
[15:31] <BeatRit> ekiga sucks imo
[15:31] <terran4000> timo: you can ask me, though not sure if I'll be able to answer all the time
[15:32] <timo> thats ok  sometimes you are in the chat thaknks for help!!
[15:32] <BeatRit> terran4000, is ur problem solved? :)
[15:32] <timo> terran4000:  ohh one question when i instal windows live messenger
[15:32] <terran4000> BeatRit: not even close >_>
[15:33] <BeatRit> damn
[15:33] <TheAncientGoat> BeatRit: Well, I'm not aware of any other foss voip progs. Skype works on all 3 but its not opensource, and it also sucks :P
[15:33] <timo> is that the same way
[15:33] <timo> ßß
[15:33] <BeatRit> why does it suck ancientgoat?
[15:33] <TheAncientGoat> timo: You have to use a different client for windows live messenger
[15:33] <timo> witch client
[15:33] <timo>  ??
[15:33] <TheAncientGoat> on kubuntu, kopete will work
[15:33] <TheAncientGoat> it should already be installed
[15:34] <TheAncientGoat> just add an account, select hotmail/windows live, and enter your details
[15:34] <TheAncientGoat> BeatRit: Their protocols, their policies..
[15:34] <timo> terran4000:           windows live messenger and linux not compatible????
[15:35] <TheAncientGoat> I mean, in usability terms, its better than ekiga ofc.
[15:35] <terran4000> timo: no, That's why it's called "Windows" messenger
[15:35] <TheAncientGoat> timo: you can still use it though
[15:35] <TheAncientGoat> just not that specific client
[15:35] <timo> ok
[15:35] <terran4000> timo: if you want to chat on the windows messanger network, I would suggest you use Kopete (the default KDE chat client) or Pidgin
[15:35] <terran4000> !Kopete
[15:46] <BeatRit> fuck it, there should be an FOSS VoIP Crossplatform :@
[15:49] <jtheuer> yeah, BeatRit
[15:49] <BeatRit> the us can ask skype to tap ur calls
[15:49] <jtheuer> let me know if you found one - plus one that works on smartphones
[15:49] <BeatRit> they cant ask it if it would be foss right?
[15:50] <jtheuer> wrong
[15:50] <BeatRit> jtheuer, imma build my own if i cant find one
[15:50] <jtheuer> they can still ask ;-)
[15:50] <BeatRit> ffs
[15:50] <BeatRit> why?
[15:50] <jtheuer> they can also ask for my private key...
[15:51] <BeatRit> ffs :@
[15:51] <BeatRit> u dont have any privacy on ur computer
[15:52] <BeatRit> windows has nsa progs, mac prob too, google reads ur mail and logs ur search queries, the gov can tap ur skype calls, the world sucks!
[15:53] <chuckf> BeatRit: none of that is effective until you reach out from your computer
[15:53] <chuckf> google only reads your clear text mail
[15:53] <BeatRit> sorry my english aint good enough to understand that sentence, can u try to say it in other words?
[15:54] <chuckf> what is on your computer is yours.  What is the difference?
[15:55] <BeatRit> seriously?
[15:55] <BeatRit> oh cmon!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:58] <BeatRit> chuckf, u gotta help me
[15:58] <chuckf> what do you need help with?
[15:59] <BeatRit> ill be switching to linux to avoid all these problems
[15:59] <BeatRit> ill use kubuntu
[15:59] <BeatRit> then next: a mailprovider that doesnt log/read like google and M$ do
[15:59] <BeatRit> cant u get<EMAIL_ADDRESS>or so?
[15:59] <chuckf> BeatRit: and where are you going to find that?
[16:00] <BeatRit> good question :/
[16:00] <shree> hi
[16:00] <chuckf> if you want private email you have to encrypt what you send/receive
[16:00] <BeatRit> chuckf, how do i do that?
[16:01] <chuckf> gpg is the standard
[16:01] <chuckf> there are plugins for most mail clients today
[16:01] <chuckf> http://gnupg.org would be the starting place
[16:02] <shree> hello
[16:02] <BeatRit> and can u get @linux.org?
[16:02] <BeatRit> or @kubuntu.org?
[16:02] <BeatRit> that would be awesome
[16:03] <chuckf> I don't have a way to get a @linux.org email
[16:03] <BeatRit> :(
[16:03] <chuckf> you can get @kde.org by becoming a kde contributor I believe
[16:03] <BeatRit> and @kubuntu.org?
[16:04] <terran4000> You can always just make your own domain and have your own server :)
[16:04] <shree> how enable smaba
[16:04] <BeatRit> terran4000, is that gonna cost me money?
[16:05] <chuckf> terran4000: that still does not help as you are communicating with people @gmail.com and other domains you don't control
[16:05] <BeatRit> chuckf, what do u use?
[16:05] <chuckf> I use google hosted email
[16:05] <terran4000> BeatRit: yeah, unless you can find a free domain name :-P
[16:05] <chuckf> and encrypt what I don't want google t oindex
[16:06] <BeatRit> nice :o
[16:06] <BeatRit> but wait
[16:07] <BeatRit> if i send a mail from @kde.org google can also read what i wrote to the gmail user?
[16:07] <chuckf> if it is clear text, yes
[16:07] <BeatRit> OMFG
[16:07] <terran4000> just enable https and use gpg
[16:08] <terran4000> If you use pop, then just enable TLS or SSL
[16:08] <BeatRit> google prob has a deencrypter for gpg
[16:08] <chuckf> I'd be surprised if they did
[16:08] <BeatRit> why?
[16:08] <BeatRit> they hacked china back, so they can do anything
[16:09] <chuckf> that's a differnet thing entirely
[16:09] <chuckf> the gpg encryption scheme is different than hacking a computer
[16:09] <BeatRit> if they can hack into a gov they can have a deencrypter for gpg
[16:09] <BeatRit> true
[16:10] <terran4000> BeatRit: They didn't hack a goverment, that would break US federal law
[16:10] <terran4000> All they did was go around the hardware and software firewalls
[16:10] <BeatRit> i mean that, soz
[16:11] <chuckf> could they have a way to crack gpg? sure its possible but it is not probable. For them to have something like that is about the same as someone getting sturck by lightning three times in the same place over three years on the same day
[16:11] <unomystEz> hello
[16:12] <unomystEz> i can't seem to find a boot.img.gz for the latest version of kubuntu
[16:12] <unomystEz> i found old ones from 2008
[16:12] <unomystEz> I need to install via usb drive
[16:15] <chuckf> unomystEz: are you trying to create a custom boot USB? If not, why not just use the USB creator?
[16:15] <unomystEz> I only have windows installed
[16:15] <unomystEz> not sure what the USB creator is
[16:15] <unomystEz> I just want to install kubuntu
[16:15] <unomystEz> I don't have a CD/DVD drive on any of my boxes
[16:16] <chuckf> did you download the kubuntu ISO already?
[16:16] <unomystEz> yup
[16:16] <unomystEz> http://wiki.clemsonlinux.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Install_from_USB_drive
[16:17] <unomystEz> that has a link to an old old boot.img.gz though
[16:17] <unomystEz> I don't think kubuntu builds them anymore
[16:18] <chuckf> go to https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ and download that for windows. Click on the 'browse' button for 'use existing live cd' and point it to the kubuntu iso. Then for target device use your flash drive for that
[16:19] <unomystEz> nice
[16:19] <chuckf> that is the method I use for creating live usb drives under windows from fedora or *ubuntu isos
[16:19] <unomystEz> awesome
[16:19] <unomystEz> one more thing
[16:19] <unomystEz> I have always used gnome in the past, but I don't really like it so much
[16:19] <unomystEz> the only diff between ubuntu and kubuntu is KDE?
[16:19] <chuckf> note that that will wipe out whatever is on your USB drive
[16:20] <chuckf> that is the biggest difference yes. The package choices are different so some utils that are on Ubuntu are not there by default on Kubuntu
[16:20] <chuckf> and vice versa
[16:20] <terran4000> unomystEz: KDE and kde stuff. Kubuntu is built on and around KDE while ubuntu is all gnome
[16:20] <unomystEz> ok
[16:21] <unomystEz> well I hope I like KDE
[16:21] <unomystEz> will like*
[16:21] <chuckf> Most people do:)
[16:21] <chuckf> and if they don't they are wrong:D
[16:21] <BeatRit> chuckf, what do u use for voip?
[16:21] <BeatRit> ur on linux right?
[16:22] <chuckf> as a client I use twinkle
[16:22] <chuckf> yup
[16:22] <BeatRit> ffs: available for Linux only
[16:22] <chuckf> twinkle connects to my asterisk box
[16:23] <BeatRit> nvm chuckf
[16:27] <BeatRit> chuckf, what do u do with skype contacts?
[16:28] <chuckf> I don't worry about it as it hasn't come up yet
[16:28] <terran4000> Does anyone here use KDE 4.4 RC2?
[16:29] <lookingout> hi guys, this morning i switched to kubuntu since now i have a good 23" monitor kde is a pleasure, but so far i found an issue: it won't install propietary drivers for my ati 5750hd video card and won't recognize its HDMI output, any idea on how to solve this!?
[16:29] <chuckf> I've not had anyone only have a skype contact for voice. The one time I did have that happen was a friend so I set him up with an account on my asterisk box and connected via that
[16:29] <BeatRit> k
[16:29] <terran4000> lookingout: what do you mean "won't install"?
[16:30] <lookingout> terran4000, hi, well, you know, i click the new hardware drivers icon in the traybar and it shows up with the ATI driver shaded in grey
[16:31] <chuckf> BeatRit: if it does come up I'll probably just get a skype account if needed
[16:31] <lookingout> i can't choose it to install
[16:31] <lookingout> in ubuntu this don't happen
[16:31] <terran4000> lookingout: try doing this from the command line: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[16:31] <terran4000> that should work
[16:31] <chuckf> lookingout: have you run an update on your system yet?
[16:32] <lookingout> terran4000, ok i'll try chuckf yes i did
[16:32] <terran4000> good luck
[16:32] <lookingout> guys, i will install kubuntu again,
[16:33] <lookingout> only one more question, please, i really enjoy actual compiz settings plus emerald decoration, is there any possibility i can use them in Kubuntu?
[16:33] <lookingout> i mean, is KDE/Kubuntu compatible with emerald and compiz?
[16:33] <terran4000> yes
[16:34] <BeatRit> chuckf, next question then, what do u use for chatting with wlm ppl?
[16:34] <chuckf> what is wlm?
[16:34] <BeatRit> msn
[16:35] <tdn> How do I backup my mobile phone's contacts to my computer using Kubuntu 9.10? I have installed kmobiletools, but it does not seem to work.
[16:35] <chuckf> I don't have a msn account
[16:35] <BeatRit> aim then?
[16:35] <chuckf> If I needed to though I could use kopete, and I use kopete for aim
[16:36] <BeatRit> k
[16:36] <chuckf> and pidgin works for both of those protocols as well
[16:36] <sid_> Hello Guys!
[16:36] <sid_> I got a big problem with mi iPod Classi
[16:37] <sid_> Evrytime yhay i Plug th iPod
[16:37] <sid_> Kubuntu does't reognize it
[16:37] <lookingout> see ya guys, time to reinstall kubuntu!!
[16:38] <sid_> My iPod appears connected just for a few seconds, and then it appears to be desconnected, waht can I do? I need your help
[16:38] <sid_> please
[16:39] <chuckf> sid_: is it being mounted? Do you see it as a device?
[16:39] <sid_> nop
[16:40] <sid_> because in a few second the iPod just disconnect
[16:40] <BeatRit> chuckf, did u get my pm?
[16:40] <chuckf> sid_: do you see it when you do a lspci
[16:40] <Alarm> hello, is it possible to configure my taskbar to look exactly the same in the systemtray area as in the rest of the taskbar ? ( http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/4508/snapshot10l.jpg )  if u see the jpg you will notice that the taskbar is seperated in to two different colours
[16:40] <sid_> so, I can't use as a Externa HDisk
[16:40] <chuckf> BeatRit: yeah I did
[16:40] <BeatRit> cool
[16:41] <chuckf> sid_: lsusb is what I meant
[16:41] <Alarm> i am using oxygen style
[16:41] <sid_> I'm new at Kubuntu, and I love it
[16:42] <chuckf> Alarm: are you talking about the green/black difference?
[16:42] <chuckf> or the dark/light coloring
[16:42] <sid_> but I need all the funcionts of my Ipod, and I think that the better solutions is to migrate to "iWindows"
[16:42] <sid_> :P
[16:42] <sid_> :(
[16:42] <Alarm> chuckf,  yes , the "greek" is actualy transparent
[16:42] <sid_> please, help me
[16:42] <Alarm> where my tray icons area is black and not transparent
[16:43] <terran4000> sid_: the good ol' ipod should be detected automagically
[16:44] <sid_> yes. but it doesnt happens
[16:44] <chuckf> sid_: from a command line if you run lsusb do you see a line there indicating the ipod?
[16:44] <sid_> what can I do?
[16:44] <terran4000> other than that, I don't know what else :-P
[16:45] <chuckf> Alarm: I'm not sure if you can change the background color of that. I've never tried and checking real quick I don't see an obivous way
[16:45] <sid_> I don't know nothing aabput commands
[16:46] <Alarm> well i had it completely transparent before updating to the new versions of the styles :/
[16:46] <sid_> please, explan me , what Can i Do to coppy all my daa to the iPod
[16:47] <terran4000> Alarm: if I remember correctly, the panel will now only be transparent if you have compiz enabled
[16:47] <chuckf> sid_: we need to figure out if the system is seeing the ipod first. Open a terminal window and type in lsusb and one of the lines there should indicate the existence of an ipod
[16:48] <Alarm> well i dont plan adding compiz. i just noticed the change after adding new styles. some styles allow a unique scheme of color in the whole taskbar where others dont. so i thought that i did change some settings without realizing
[16:48] <sid_> ok
[16:48] <terran4000> Alarm: I don't know much about styling in KDE/kubuntu, but like I said transparency for the panels is ONLY via compiz. Color changes and stuff that is only via the style
[16:48] <sid_> command not found
[16:49] <terry_> hi I was wondering if someone could give me a quick hand.. I'm geting an error with Kpackagekit saying that Depedency Resolution failed?? Any ideas?
[16:50] <chuckf> sid_: what did you type in the terminal window?
[16:50] <sid_> lsusb
[16:51] <Terry_SC> Anyone?
[16:51] <Terry_SC> :)
[16:51] <sid_> but the problem is, that onece yhat I plugg in the i Pod its automaticalley ddisconnected
[16:51] <chuckf> then at the command linst type in 'sudo apt-get install lsusb' without the quotes then run the command
[16:52] <chuckf> sid_: the problem is we have to figure out if the usb controller is dropping the device or the system is just not mounting it
[16:53] <sid_> sid@I:~$ [sudo] password for sid:
[16:53] <sid_> [sudo]: command not found
[16:53] <sid_> sid@I:~$ Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
[16:53] <sid_> Leyendo: command not found
[16:53] <sid_> sid@I:~$ Creando árbol de dependencias
[16:53] <sid_> Creando: command not found
[16:53] <FloodBotK3> sid_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:55] <kamola> i downloaded it https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator and created it
[16:55] <kamola> so all i have to do is to reboot my netbook?
[16:55] <chuckf> kamola: in theory, and then tell the bios to boot from the usb drive
[16:56] <kamola> i created kubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[16:56] <kamola> it's a new asus eee
[16:56] <kamola> thx chuckf
[16:56] <chuckf> np
[16:57] <kamola> do u know how to open bios on that eee?
[16:58] <chuckf> not off hand
[16:58] <kamola> kk
[16:58] <kamola> i'll have a look
[16:58] <chuckf> there is probably an option when its starting saying something like 'F8 for boot options'
[16:59] <chuckf> and it may be set to boot from the USB first by default. i don't know
[16:59] <avsu> Hello! Can I change icon for my individual .sh file?
[17:02] <mauri> im not able to set firefox as default browser
[17:02] <terran4000> avsu: Theory states that you only have to right click on the file and go to properties and pick an icon there
[17:03] <chuckf> mauri: have you gone to system settings -> default applications?
[17:03] <mauri> chuckf: of course
[17:03] <avsu> terran4000: it will change icons for all .sh files. I mean for individual file.
[17:04] <terran4000> avsu: eh, I was afraid of that T.T Sorry can't help you dude. If you ever figure it out please let me know. Cause I'm curious about that as well.
[17:04] <mauri> chuckf: the problem is when open a link inside open office doc
[17:04] <avsu> terran4000: cheers ;)
[17:04] <terran4000> cheerio!
[17:04] <chuckf> mauri: I belive OOo has a seperate area for that setting
[17:05] <terran4000> chuckf: the bigger question is why does it have a seperate area for that!
[17:05] <mauri> chuckf: i've tried to looking at, but nothing
[17:06] <chuckf> actually it may just be an integration issue with OOo and KDE
[17:07] <WaltzingAlong> mauri: and you set system settings / default applications / web browser to use firefox? and instead OOo opens the link with konqueror ?
[17:08] <NikofTime> Good morning KDEians!
[17:08] <chuckf> WaltzingAlong: yep. I just tried it here with the same results
[17:08] <mauri> WaltzingAlong: yes....i have to remove konqueror fropm the system
[17:08] <terran4000> NikofTime: good evening
[17:09] <WaltzingAlong> mauri:  and what about the settings under system settings / advanced / file associations ?       for say text/html     ? which program is listed first?
[17:10] <NikofTime> So what are 266 people up to today?
[17:10] <peppino87> why if i download a file with firefox and then i click on it in the download window it doesn't work?
[17:10] <terran4000> 260 are away or not paying attention, and 6 of us are semi-paying attention while trying to do our own things :-P
[17:11] <mauri> WaltzingAlong: Firefox, i've already changed it....in fact every html file is opened with firefox
[17:11] <NikofTime> what is your own thing terran?
[17:12] <terran4000> writing an article, planning a KDE-Kubuntu case study, thinking of what to do with my master's thesis and wondering what to sell next
[17:12] <chuckf> peppino87: FF does not know how to handle the file
[17:12] <timo> hi @ all
[17:12] <NikofTime> TIMO! COMO ESTAS!
[17:12] <timo> terran4000:  i have a question sry
[17:12] <BluesKaj> peppino87, in linux you go to the file firefox downloaded the file to
[17:12] <terran4000> timo: no worries, what is your question
[17:12] <timo> como estas
[17:13] <WaltzingAlong> bene
[17:13] <WaltzingAlong> !es | timo
[17:13] <NikofTime> Muy Bien!
[17:13] <peppino87> i know, but why? In fedora it works
[17:13] <timo> terran4000:  i would like to go in a chat and the chat needs java
[17:14] <timo> WaltzingAlong:  no espanol sry
[17:14] <terran4000> timo: install this: "sun-java6-plugin"
[17:14] <timo> thank why you know all the stuff here
[17:14] <timo> you are very intelegent  respect
[17:15] <NikofTime> Seconded!
[17:15] <terran4000> I don't know all the stuff, I just like to know the best and fastest ways to get things working. Because I'm tired of things not working
[17:15] <BluesKaj> peppino87, setup the link to download destination file in FF
[17:15]  * terran4000 blushes
[17:15] <terran4000> timo: Thanks
[17:15] <timo> no matter
[17:15] <timo> ok i try this
[17:15] <timo> thanks
[17:15] <terran4000> good luck
[17:15] <terran4000> o
[17:16] <terran4000> one more thing
[17:16] <terran4000> I've always had trouble getting the darn java plugin working in Firefox
[17:16] <peppino87> BluesKaj: where can i setup it?
[17:16] <BluesKaj> in ff
[17:16] <terran4000> if you do you firefox, try using Google Chrome, Chromium or even Konqueror instead for that java applet
[17:17] <terran4000> *if you do use
[17:17] <Alarm> ehm i got a "simple" question. when pressing the "delete" button , i can delete files but i do not get any notification asking me for confirmation to delete the files. where can i  activate this ?
[17:18] <NikofTime> in Dolphin?
[17:18] <Alarm> yes . generally in my kde
[17:19] <NikofTime> settings -> configure Dolphin -> General -> ask for confirmation when:
[17:19] <Alarm> it just deletes files without asking me for confirmation
[17:19] <WaltzingAlong> Alarm: ^^
[17:19] <Alarm> ok i will check that. :)
[17:19] <NikofTime> Yay i helped!!
[17:19] <chuckf> good job NikofTime!
[17:19] <NikofTime> thanks chuck!
[17:19] <NikofTime> nice assist!
[17:20] <Alarm> ok "ask for confirmation when deleting files or folders" is checked . but still no confirmation seen
[17:21] <NikofTime> what about "moving files or folder to trash"?
[17:22] <Alarm> okie, that works . i am too stupid :)  thanks
[17:22] <Alarm> thought moving to trash and deleting was sort of the same
[17:22] <NikofTime> i use the option in Dolphin to show the "Delete" command to bypass trash
[17:23] <NikofTime> under dolphin settings -> general -> context menu
[17:25] <mauri> WaltzingAlong: do you havve any thoer idea
[17:26] <WaltzingAlong> mauri: ask in #kde ?
[17:26] <NikofTime> what's up mauri?
[17:26] <NikofTime> i want to help!
[17:27] <NikofTime> just re-discovered "Night at the Rooxbury" jesus the 90's were funny
[17:27] <NikofTime> and no one cares!
[17:28] <NikofTime> how are there 269 "peopl" here and no one talks
[17:28] <mauri> NikofTime: when i open a www link from a openoffice documents, it is used konqueror instead firefox. I've already set it as default
[17:28] <NikofTime> WHAT ARE YOU PEOPLE DOING?
[17:28]  * gastly talks :p
[17:28] <NikofTime> i am so on that!
[17:30] <elexodus> Anyone know how to change an MBR to a GUID partician table?
[17:33] <elexodus> partition length of<PHONE_NUMBER>5 sectors exceeds the msdos-partition-table-imposed maximum of<PHONE_NUMBER>
[17:34] <binMonkey> how can i get byobu to autostart with konsole?  i can't figure it out.
[17:36] <gastly> mauri, do this, "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser" and then select the one which you want to use :)
[17:36] <NikofTime> hey mauri!
[17:37] <timo> terran4000:  No Login? Then Java is deactivated or is absent!
[17:37] <NikofTime> wow gastly! good work
[17:37] <gastly> hehe thnx NikofTime :)
[17:38] <timo> terran4000:  what I make now around in chat to come,
[17:38] <mauri> gastly: great...it works. But is it not possibile to do the same thing using grafic interface?
[17:38] <terran4000> timo: Hm? worry I don't understand
[17:38] <terran4000> *sorry
[17:38] <gastly> mauri, hmmm I don't think so hehe
[17:39] <gastly> some things just *have* to be done in a terminal
[17:39] <NikofTime> why would OOo use the alternative browser settings? seens odd being that the help shows it uses system default
[17:39] <timo> i have instal the paket an i make a restart and try it again
[17:39] <binMonkey> gastly: was that update-alternatives command to set the deafault browser?
[17:39] <timo> but its dont work he sais java is not instal
[17:39] <gastly> binMonkey, yup
[17:40] <timo> i dont kniw what i make now
[17:40] <terran4000> timo: it says java is still not installed? interesting
[17:40] <timo> yes not instaled sais the chat
[17:40] <timo>  the paket manager sais all is ok
[17:41] <mauri> gastly: ok thanks. I ahve seen that in kobuntu there was a default application setting but it dont work
[17:41] <terran4000> timo: did you also install flashplugin-installer
[17:41] <terran4000> ?
[17:41] <elexodus> Anyone know how to change an MBR to a GUID partician table?
[17:41] <timo> yes the java sun
[17:41] <NikofTime> i though guid had to be setup durring partitioning
[17:41] <timo>  he found one paket and this have i instal
[17:41] <NikofTime> thought
[17:42] <gastly> mauri, yw :)
[17:42] <terran4000> timo: ok, give me a few minutes to look into it. I also want to finish one article first. I'll get back to you soon.
[17:42] <timo> I hope I do not irritate
[17:42] <gastly> timo, simplest way that I can think of is do: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:43] <NikofTime> hey timo.... what does "about:plugins" show in ff?
[17:44] <NikofTime> nobody knows, the troubles i've seen
[17:45] <NikofTime> no body knows my sorrows.....
[17:45] <timo> terran4000:  how I come in  program with the black window
[17:45] <timo> gastly:  how I come in  program with the black window
[17:45] <terran4000> timo: I don't know ... that does sound familiar though. I'll look into it soon. I'm going to finish writing this article first
[17:46] <timo> terran4000:  ok
[17:46] <NikofTime> timo! i do not understand the words coming out of your "mouth"
[17:47] <gastly> timo, you mean the terminal? Press Alt+F2 and type in 'Konsole' and press enter
[17:47] <elexodus> I have 4x2TB in RAID5. There are currently 3 formatted particians: Dell Utility, Boot, and Ubuntu (ext4). There is an additional buttload of empty space that won't format. All I want is to make that extra space usable with TrueCrypt. Using gParted, I get the error message "partition length of<PHONE_NUMBER>5 sectors exceeds the msdos-partition-table-imposed maximum of<PHONE_NUMBER>"
[17:47] <timo> sry my english is not good
[17:48] <terran4000> NikofTime: oi, be nice man. No need to be rude like that
[17:48] <NikofTime> i just wanted some clearification
[17:48] <NikofTime> sorry timo!
[17:49] <Alarm> sorry, but where are the system shortcut keys configuraiton ? In the Keyboard & Mouse settings "global keyboard shortcuts" there is nothing to be found like "Kill xserver" or anything similar. just kmix, kwin , kdedeamon shortcuts
[17:49] <timo> no problem
[17:49] <timo> i speak german
[17:49] <timo>  im in germany also 9 month
[17:49] <NikofTime> Awesome!
[17:50] <timo> bevor i was in germany i never speak or write english
[17:50] <BluesKaj> !de | timo
[17:50] <NikofTime> so timo.. you need java in FireFox Right?
[17:50] <timo> and i thin thats ok for this hheeheh
[17:50] <timo> thats right
[17:51] <timo> for a chat
[17:51] <timo> the name of the chat is knudels
[17:51] <timo> you know this??
[17:51] <NikofTime> can you put "about:plugins" in the firefox address bar and tell me what it says?
[17:52] <NikofTime> do you mean knuddels?
[17:53] <timo> i understand what you say but i dont know how
[17:53] <timo> this is my first pc :D
[17:53] <timo> yes knuddels
[17:54] <NikofTime> okay
[17:54] <NikofTime> run
[17:54] <NikofTime> run firefox
[17:54] <timo> ok
[17:54] <timo> and than
[17:54] <NikofTime> and were you would put www.google.com or whatever... put in about:plugins
[17:54] <gastly> timo, open up a terminal window. Application Launcher->Applications->System->Konsole and then type this: "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin" and then restart firefox
[17:54] <timo> ok i try this one mom
[17:55] <timo> thats to much for my one at the time
[17:55] <timo> sry im not so fast
[17:55] <gastly> hehe sorry, but that will solve your problem
[17:55] <NikofTime> copy and paste it
[17:56] <NikofTime> gotta go lvoe my kids... one minute
[17:57] <terran4000> timo: I'm back. Have you fixed the problem?
[17:58] <Guest17489> Hi. I just installed Kubuntu by using the "sudo apt-get  kubuntu-desktop" command. Kubuntu works but I have no sound atm. :( It worked fine in GNOME. Any sugestions what I can do?
[17:58] <timo> terran4000:
[17:58] <timo> terran4000:  no
[17:58] <Guest17489> *suggestions
[17:58] <gastly> timo, just install the package: sun-java6-plugin and then restart firefox
[17:59] <timo> gastly:  i have instal the program
[17:59] <timo> aber its not run
[17:59] <timo> idont know why
[17:59] <gastly> Guest16915, have you checked if it's not muted? hehe it happens alot
[18:00] <timo> ok look
[18:00] <Guest17489> gastly: No it isn't muted. I checked it
[18:00] <terran4000> eh I forgot, timo, we are trying to get the java plugin to work right?
[18:01] <jtheuer> hey, how can I turn on my wlan? normally the LED is turned on, but the keystroke doesn't work - I think there was some cat 1 > /proc/... command?
[18:01] <kamola> can someone tell me how to install kubuntu on an Eee PC 1101HA?
[18:02] <gastly> Guest16915, ahh ok. Open up system settings and then select 'Multimedia'. Now you will have a list of sound devices, choose each one and press the 'Test' button on the bottom and see which one works.
[18:02] <terran4000> timo, go to this page and tell me what you see in the middle: http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
[18:03] <kamola> i createdi used the liveusb-creator 3.9 and the kubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso and flashed it
[18:03] <kamola> it doesn'
[18:03] <timo> ok
[18:03] <kamola> start
[18:03] <kamola> i opened the bios and enabled removable device as 1. boot device
[18:04] <kamola> nothing happened
[18:04] <kamola> windows xp started again
[18:04] <timo> terran4000:  there one is empty feld
[18:04] <terran4000> o.o
[18:04] <timo> this is not good???
[18:04] <terran4000> no error messages or anything?
[18:04] <kamola> my internet connection is too slow for downloading a kubuntu netbook version now
[18:04] <timo> one min
[18:05] <kamola> it's 8GB Patriot usb stick
[18:05] <timo> terran4000:  If your applet is not displaying properly, please check these additional configurations.
[18:05] <timo> Enable Java through your Web browser
[18:05] <timo> Enable Java through the "Java Plug-in Control Panel"
[18:05] <timo> Clearing your Web Browser Cache
[18:05] <FloodBotK3> timo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:05] <Guest17489> gastly: Well, the first one in the list works when I hit the "Test" button. But if I play a file nothing happens
[18:06] <terran4000> timo: huh, interesting
[18:06] <terran4000> timo: are you using firefox?
[18:06] <timo> no firefox
[18:06] <timo> google is my start site
[18:06] <timo> firefox is not instaled
[18:07] <terran4000> So what do you use as your internet browser?
[18:07] <timo> a blue window and in the middle is google surching
[18:07] <terran4000> eh, I mean the name of the program :)
[18:07] <timo> ohhh sry
[18:08] <timo> webbrowser!!!???
[18:08] <terran4000> yes, the name of it
[18:08] <gastly> Guest16915, open the mixer window (click on the speaker icon in the system tray and select 'Mixer') and increase the volume for all the devices listed and then try playing the file. btw, which type of file are you trying to play and in which player?
[18:09] <timo> terran4000: Konqueror
[18:10] <terran4000> aha
[18:10] <timo> aha good or not good??
[18:10] <timo> -.-
[18:10] <terran4000> neither, just a 'aha now I understand :)
[18:10] <terran4000> '
[18:11] <gastly> I thought you were using firefox, timo hehe
[18:12] <timo> no i have firefox in in the program to instal
[18:12] <timo> i not use firefox
[18:12] <Guest17489> gastly: mp3 file in totem and vlc. It works now with headphones but if I pull them out I hear nothing (in GNOME it switched to the "normal" speakers)...
[18:13] <Guest17489> (I'm using a laptop)
[18:14] <gastly> timo, goto Settings->Configure Konqueror and then select 'Java and Javascript' on the right and make sure the 'Enable Java Globally' checkbox is checked
[18:14] <gastly> Guest16915, does it happen when you play files in a native kde application, like Amarok?
[18:14] <OKATESTYING> hi, i want to make a program include version numbers of all major libraries used at compile time, and gcc version. I am on ubuntu how do i make this happen?
[18:14] <OKATESTYING> what i am asking is how do i substitute enviormental variables into source code?
[18:16] <Guest17489> gastly: the same :(
[18:16] <terran4000> timo: try what gastly said. Sounds like a good way to enable it. I'm not a konqeuror expert at all.
[18:17] <kamola> it seems that it doesn't work with that version on my netbook :(
[18:18] <kamola> it seems that windows xp is too much integrated into Eee PC 1101HA
[18:18] <Guest17489> aaaah, now it's working. I used the wrong "master channel"
[18:18] <Guest17489> thanks for your help, gastly! :)
[18:19] <gastly> I'm glad it worked Guest16915 and you're welcome :)
[18:19] <gastly> kamola, try kubuntu netbook edition
[18:20] <gastly> kamola, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Netbook
[18:20] <kamola> thank u
[18:20] <gastly> np
[18:20] <kamola> i don't have the time today to dl it...   internet slow
[18:21] <kamola> and i gotta go to hospital now
[18:21] <kamola> c ya guys
[18:21] <gastly> cya kamola
[18:29] <kanel> hi @all
[18:30] <kanel> whom can I turn to for troubleShooting?
[18:34] <aftertaf> Hey all :) Which is the right debug symbols package for kwin 4.4 RC2 ?
[18:38] <Dario_Andres> Hi. Quick question.. where are the qt4.6.1 packages going to be released ? thanks in advance
[18:39] <aftertaf> same here
[18:39] <aftertaf> for amarok fix
[18:39] <Peace-> use offcial repository
[18:39] <Peace-> or you will mess up the system
[18:39] <aftertaf> for 4.6? didnt think to look :)
[18:40] <aftertaf> well I have a crashing amarok dur to bug in 4.5. Reported bug with bugtracker and got a message saying 'resolved' : fix is installing qt4.6
[18:40] <Dario_Andres> I guess the 4.6.1 packages should come from the same place which is distributing kdesc4.4 (or another qt4.6.0)
[18:40] <Peace-> aftertaf: well i use vlc ... and a service menu for that
[18:40] <Peace-> pretty nice
[18:41] <Peace-> amarok 2 is shit for me
[18:41] <Peace-> *for me*
[18:41] <aftertaf> :)
[18:41] <tsimpson> Peace-: language
[18:41] <aftertaf> service menu?
[18:41] <Peace-> yep
[18:41] <Dario_Andres> I need to give an answer to a user in kde bugtracker..
[18:41] <aftertaf> care to elaborate?
[18:41] <aftertaf> Dario_Andres: i guess its me your user :)
[18:41] <aftertaf> looooooool
[18:42] <aftertaf><EMAIL_ADDRESS>:)
[18:42] <Dario_Andres> mh, nicks don't match .. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215392#c49
[18:42] <Dario_Andres> oh, ok
[18:42] <aftertaf> :)
[18:42] <Dario_Andres> then you can find the answer here..
[18:42] <Peace-> aftertaf: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/01/29/vlc-play-cd/ and http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/vlc+append?content=118298 made vlc perfect for me
[18:42] <aftertaf> hope so.... looks like its VLC :)
[18:42] <Dario_Andres> sorry about the noise... seeyou
[18:47] <aftertaf> Peace-: will test :)
[18:47] <aftertaf> just installed append
[18:47] <marco> dfgerg
[18:48] <marco> rthetyh
[18:52] <aftertaf> ppa:mapopa/qt4.6 is the way forward... about to test...
[18:52] <Peace-> aftertaf: so you have tested?
[18:53] <Peace-> have you
[18:53] <aftertaf> hmmm
[18:53] <aftertaf> not convinced
[18:53] <aftertaf> aded that to my repositories, and updated : same versio as before 4:4.6;XXX
[18:53] <Peace-> beta2 ...
[18:54] <aftertaf> so)
[18:54] <aftertaf> 1. bug is back -or-
[18:54] <aftertaf> 2. fix not yet in this version
[18:54] <aftertaf> either way, arse !
[18:54] <aftertaf> :)
[18:56] <aftertaf> looking at vlc :)
[18:57] <aftertaf> i see it has a library function :D
[19:02]  * aftertaf is on a qt 4.6/amarok spamming mission
[19:06] <aftertaf> Peace-: hey :) OK now i got music lasting fo r more than 2 songs dude , thx :)
[19:06] <aftertaf> any other cool vlc things? widget for controlling, etc?
[19:07] <Peace-> aftertaf: no i have made only the service menu
[19:07] <aftertaf> to save me some google mileage :)
[19:07] <Peace-> but you can compile it..
[19:07] <aftertaf> ok, so where do i see it/use it?
[19:08] <Peace-> aftertaf: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/vlmc/
[19:08] <Peace-> aftertaf: there is a tutorial to compile vlc but...
[19:08] <aftertaf> cheers :)
[19:08] <noaXess_kubuntu> i know, i don't need the root password.. but i have removed the single user from adm group.. now i can't sudo anything..
[19:08] <Peace-> aftertaf: to your own risk
[19:08] <aftertaf> ok course.
[19:09] <noaXess_kubuntu> i have only one user on that system.. and it0's groups are now juser his user gropa and video
[19:09] <noaXess_kubuntu> group^
[19:09] <aftertaf> i just installed vlc by apt and your menu by sudo ./install
[19:09] <Peace-> noaXess_kubuntu: go on grub menu
[19:09] <aftertaf> noaXess_kubuntu: chroot via a live cd
[19:09] <noaXess_kubuntu> !root
[19:09] <Peace-> noaXess_kubuntu: then select recovery
[19:09] <Peace-> noaXess_kubuntu: then select drop to shell
[19:10] <Peace-> noaXess_kubuntu: then type: adduser dude
[19:10] <noaXess_kubuntu> Peace-: okay-- then change groups for that user
[19:10] <Peace-> noaXess_kubuntu: then type: adduser dude admin
[19:10] <noaXess_kubuntu> adm or admin?
[19:10] <Peace-> eye adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare
[19:11] <Peace-> those are mine ...
[19:11] <Peace-> xD
[19:11] <noaXess_kubuntu> ok
[19:11] <Peace-> eye
[19:11] <aftertaf> :) peace to Peace-
[19:11] <Peace-> LOL
[19:12] <rob0917> hello
[19:12] <aftertaf> ok back sson, compiling ;)
[19:12] <Peace-> aftertaf: i suggest to don't do xD
[19:13] <Peace-> aftertaf: vlc by repo is fine
[19:13] <Peace-> keep that
[19:13] <aftertaf> ok
[19:13] <Peace-> then if you are not scary about compiling ...
[19:13] <Peace-> try
[19:13]  * Peace- peace is crazy compiling everything lol
[19:13] <aftertaf> i like compiling . . .
[19:14] <aftertaf> but better delete from apt before no ?
[19:14] <Peace-> aftertaf: on that tutorial it said ... remove every stuff :)
[19:14] <aftertaf> lol step 2 :) didnt read that far
[19:14] <Peace-> xD
[19:14] <aftertaf> what does this compiled version of vlc have that the apt one doesnt ?
[19:15] <Peace-> i didn t remember well
[19:15] <Peace-> the last time i used not compiled version was a lots of time ago
[19:16] <aftertaf> :)
[19:16] <Peace-> well well i go
[19:16] <aftertaf> does it have a better interface? VLC has always frightened me that way
[19:16] <Peace-> have fun :( bye from italy
[19:16] <Peace-> :D
[19:16] <Peace-> aftertaf: i liked but there is a lots of skin for vlc
[19:17] <Peace-> just download an tryit
[19:17] <aftertaf> k
[19:17] <aftertaf> bye
[19:17] <Peace-> bye
[19:18] <noaXess_kubuntu> done... thanks Peace
[19:20] <acidtoi> hi
[19:20] <acidtoi> just installing kubuntu dudes =D
[19:20] <acidtoi> so different to gnome
[19:21] <acidtoi> bit heavier thouhg on my quadcore 8400 2.6 with 4gb ram
[19:21] <acidtoi> and an ati 5750 hd w/1gb ram
[19:21] <acidtoi> still bit heavier than gnome
[19:21] <acidtoi> so far dolphin rocks!
[19:22] <acidtoi> i hear my cpu fans work like crazy, may be kde is givin' em a hard time xD
[19:28] <WaltzingAlong> hi
[19:30] <nik_> hi
[19:33] <sheytan> Hi there ;D
[19:33] <sheytan> have a question
[19:33] <sheytan> Why sun-java6-plugin depens on firefox? :D
[19:42] <WaltzingAlong> sheytan: depends on a browser, apparently
[19:42] <WaltzingAlong> /notice sheytan
[19:42] <WaltzingAlong> firefox | firefox-2 | iceweasel | mozilla-firefox | iceape-browser | mozilla-browser | epiphany-gecko | epiphany-webkit |
[19:42] <WaltzingAlong>          epiphany-browser | galeon | midbrowser | xulrunner | xulrunner-1.9
[19:42] <WaltzingAlong> doh
[19:42] <FloodBotK3> WaltzingAlong: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:42] <aftertaf> :)
[19:42] <aftertaf> ok. so bug is fixed with qt 4.6.1
[19:43] <aftertaf> which is not in any repository as yet
[19:43] <aftertaf> shame, as it is a bugfix release....... but then again ppl need time to test and make packages..
[19:43] <WaltzingAlong> aftertaf: which bug?
[19:43] <aftertaf> amarok crashing due to a bug in qt4.6.0 with http cover downloading
[19:45] <aftertaf> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215392
[19:45] <aftertaf> even lucid doesnt have 4.6.1 yet, so . ..
[19:52] <karim__> hi how r u all
[19:54] <aftertaf> good. no amarok but good
[19:54] <aftertaf> :)
[20:01] <mauri_> when i click on a link in a openoffice document, it sayys that no browsser is found
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[20:06] <aftertaf> mauri_: there is a way of setting a default browxser i think
[20:06] <aftertaf> you have one set in kde?
[20:06] <mauri_> aftertaf: no, i didnt find it
[20:07] <aftertaf> and one is set in kde?
[20:09] <mauri_> aftertaf: I set firefox as default browser
[20:10] <mauri_> aftertaf: the problem is that openoffice says that no browser is found but firefox being opened haowever
[20:17] <aftertaf> hmmm
[20:18] <aftertaf> you sure of exact path to command line?
[20:18] <aftertaf> you see, firefox, forefox-3.0, that type of thing
[20:19] <OKATESTYING> lol diarael
[20:21] <mauri_> aftertaf: firefox work propeerly
[20:21] <mauri_> only when it is start from openoffice i have problemù
[20:26] <eitreach> Something has gone horribly wrong somewhere. I am told that my external drive "cannot yet be mounted" when I boot my system.
[20:26] <eitreach> What can I do to fix that?
[20:38] <eitreach> Out of nowhere I get "something cannot yet be mounted" on startup. What do I do to fix that?
[20:46] <timo> hi good evening
[20:46] <timo> i have a question  i would like to instal icq
[20:47] <timo> hello some one here to help me please
[20:47] <timo> mhhhh.....
[20:48] <timo> i dont know how to instal the icq messenger
[20:48] <timo> terran4000:
[20:48] <timo> terran4000:  hello
[20:49] <timo> terran4000:  ok i think no body is there!! see you tomorow bye bye
[20:49] <crimsun> kopete, pidgin, empathy, all handly icq
[20:49] <crimsun> all handle*
[20:49] <timo> all handle
[20:51] <mm_202> Hey guys, I just installed 9.10 on a HP dv6000 laptop and all the text is HUGE.  Its completely unusable.  I need to somehow change it via cmd, where would I look first?
[20:53] <WaltzingAlong> as in the resolution in general is much too small? (800x600 for example)?
[20:53] <mm_202> WaltzingAlong: no, its at about 1200x800, just the text.
[20:54] <mm_202> I didnt have this problem with 9.04
[20:54] <mm_202> But am a bit stumped.
[20:54] <mm_202> I even ssh'ed in and ran systemsettings via X on a different computer and forced the DPI to 96 and still no-go.
[20:55] <WaltzingAlong> mm_202: set a font dpi? system settings / appearance / fonts
[20:55] <WaltzingAlong> ah
[20:55] <mm_202> I think that it may be more hardware / X settings?
[20:58] <n-iCe> is it possible to block the deplacement of the icons and plasmoids on kubuntu? that only the sudo user can move it
[20:58] <WaltzingAlong> n-iCe: as in a kiosk mode?
[20:58] <mm_202> WaltzingAlong: I think I may of found it.  Xorg.log shows some driver errors.  Thanks for the help, though!
[20:59] <WaltzingAlong> mm_202: ok!
[21:01] <n-iCe> WaltzingAlong: sudo konqueror... then properties on all the icons, then make root the owner of each icon/etc
[21:01] <n-iCe> WaltzingAlong: and make em read-only, dunno where your plasmoids are stored, you'll have to find em... perhaps /home/user/.plasmoids ?
[21:02] <WaltzingAlong> ok
[21:02] <WaltzingAlong> might be other ways though
[21:05] <aftertaf> n-iCe: maybe with the network plasmoid function ?
[21:05] <aftertaf> in 4.4
[21:07] <petr_> hello girls
[21:08] <n-iCe> aftertaf: I'm in kard
[21:08] <n-iCe> kardy
[21:08] <killerloop> hello girls one more
[21:08] <n-iCe> 9.10, karmic!
[21:08] <killerloop> My firefox is born CPU
[21:08] <killerloop> borning
[21:09] <turtle^s0up> Hello all, I'm on Kubuntu Karmic, which package should I install "koffice" or "koffice-kde4?"
[21:09] <n-iCe> aftertaf: what are your ideas
[21:09] <killerloop> turtle^s0up   stends in queue
[21:09] <killerloop> I am first
[21:09] <killerloop> AUUUUU
[21:09] <killerloop> My firefox born the CPU
[21:10] <Mamarok> killerloop: behave, please
[21:10] <killerloop> Mamarok http://cars.auto.ru
[21:10] <Quintasan> turtle^s0up: If you want STABLE koffice please install "koffice" package
[21:10] <killerloop> open this site in firefox
[21:10] <killerloop> Mamarok   do it
[21:10] <Mamarok> killerloop: certainly not, and you shouldn't, neither
[21:10] <killerloop> Mamarok  why?
[21:10] <Quintasan> turtle^s0up: koffice-kde4 contains new KOffice which may lack features
[21:11] <turtle^s0up> Quinstasan, thanks for replying. Does the stable "koffice" packe not use Qt 4?
[21:11] <killerloop> Mamarok   you are bad man
[21:11] <crimsun> sigh, trolls.
[21:11] <Mamarok> killerloop: please behave, told you so earlier
[21:11] <BeatRit> does toshiba sell laptops that come preinstalled with linux? so that they also dont have a winkey?
[21:11] <WaltzingAlong> turtle^s0up: "koffice" is 1.6.x; "koffice-kde4" is 2.1.x
[21:11] <killerloop> Mamarok  lets talk?
[21:12] <Quintasan> turtle^s0up: and yes, they were written in KDE3 ages so Qt3 instead of Qt4 AFAIK
[21:12] <Mamarok> killerloop: what about? Your question made no sense to me
[21:12] <killerloop> Mamarok   my firefox open page   and CPU is braining
[21:13] <turtle^s0up> I understand now, thanks for the information.
[21:13] <killerloop> is borning
[21:13] <Mamarok> killerloop: what do you mean by that? This word doesn't exist in English
[21:13] <killerloop> Mamarok   my cpu are loaded in 100%
[21:14] <killerloop> Mamarok   do not say me what words exists in English
[21:14] <Mamarok> killerloop: close it and reopen it then, and don't go on sites that load unnecessary stuff
[21:14] <Mamarok> killerloop: borning? that word is not English
[21:14] <BeatRit> does toshiba sell laptops that come preinstalled with linux? so that they also dont have a winkey?
[21:15] <killerloop> Mamarok  I look at pages with mercedes w 140
[21:15] <killerloop> Mamarok  what do you thik about w140?
[21:15] <Mamarok> killerloop: a site that uses Flash?
[21:15] <Quintasan> Mamarok: why don't we ask staff to get rid of him?
[21:15] <BluesKaj> !offtopic | killerloop
[21:15] <killerloop> Quintasan yes
[21:15] <killerloop> FLASH!
[21:15] <Mamarok> Quintasan: I am staff :)
[21:16]  * Quintasan bows in respect
[21:16] <Quintasan> Mamarok: It's not even funny anymore :P
[21:16] <n-iCe> Staff
[21:16] <n-iCe> I don't really care what's going on in here, will I get my help!
[21:16] <Mamarok> killerloop: please behave or leave
[21:16] <Mamarok> !patience | n-iCe
[21:16] <Quintasan> n-iCe: and with what do you have problems?
[21:16] <killerloop> Mamarok do not say me what I should to do!!!
[21:17] <n-iCe> killerloop: stfu
[21:17] <Quintasan> lol
[21:17] <Mamarok> killerloop: I do so, please behave or leave, last warning
[21:17]  * n-iCe laughs
[21:17] <n-iCe> Mamarok: thanks!
[21:17] <Mamarok> n-iCe: you behave, too!
[21:17] <n-iCe> hehehe
[21:17]  * n-iCe jumps on Mamarok
[21:17] <killerloop> Mamarok  OK I choose behave
[21:17] <Mamarok> right
[21:17] <n-iCe> I'm Staff too!
[21:17] <n-iCe> :/ shit, the ChanServ thingie didn't work
[21:18] <n-iCe> Anyway, I found how to solve it, thanks guys!
[21:18] <n-iCe> Enjoy and keep the good work up!
[21:18] <killerloop> Guys   What meant |Flash|?   If I use flash then firefox stupidly work?
[21:19] <Mamarok> killerloop: it depends on your Firefox version
[21:19] <killerloop> Mamarok please behave or leave
[21:19] <killerloop> Mamarok  last
[21:20] <Quintasan> finally
[21:20]  * Quintasan hands cookies to Mamarok
[21:20] <aftertaf> lol
[21:20] <Mamarok> thanks :)
[21:20] <aftertaf> not funny, really... but lol all the same
[21:20] <aftertaf> good one Mamarok
[21:20] <Quintasan> Paitience is a virtue but I would kick him right away :P
[21:20] <Mamarok> OK, back to business
[21:20] <Quintasan> Patience even
[21:21] <Izinucs>  /me thinks what killerloop was saying is his CPU was maxing out when viewing the page mentioned... (despite the fact that it might have contained a trojan for windows .. being a .ru site)..
[21:21] <BeatRit> does toshiba sell laptops that come preinstalled with linux? so that they also dont have a winkey?
[21:21] <Mamarok> Izinucs: most likely, or some badly coded Flash running wild
[21:21] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, i think he had a legit problem , but the attitude towards solving it was a bit nutty :)
[21:21] <Mamarok> BeatRit: I don't know, sorry
[21:22] <BeatRit> np
[21:22] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: indeed
[21:22] <Izinucs> It was a language barrier .. "borning" might have been a direct translation..
[21:22] <Mamarok> BeatRit: but the WinKey can be used as a Meta key in Linux, so it might be useful nonetheless
[21:23] <Mamarok> Izinucs: Google translat is easily available, and I did understand when he said 100%
[21:23] <Mamarok> anyway, let's get back on topic
[21:23] <Izinucs> Mamarok: missed the 100
[21:23] <Izinucs> % line
[21:23] <BeatRit> Mamarok, i want a complete linux computer, meaning that windows logo key has to disappear :p
[21:24] <Mamarok> BeatRit: put a sticker on it?
[21:24] <BeatRit> Mamarok, its not the same
[21:25] <Izinucs> BeatRit: scrape the win logo off
[21:25] <Mamarok> BeatRit: you should search in Google, I really can't help you, sorry
[21:25] <BeatRit> np Mamarok
[21:25] <BeatRit> nice idea Izinucs
[21:25] <Mamarok> scartching it off damages the key
[21:26] <BeatRit> hm
[21:26] <BeatRit> true
[21:26] <BeatRit> anyway
[21:26] <BeatRit> gtg
[21:26] <BeatRit> bye
[21:26] <FloodBotK3> BeatRit: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:26] <BeatRit> take care all
[21:26] <Izinucs> careful application with a sharp knife should result in little damage
[21:27]  * Izinucs likes his binary clock widget
[21:28] <nikola_> hey, all. Is there any way to make banshee work ? I installed it but it won't play any mp3s
[21:29] <Mamarok> hm, patience is indeed a virtue :)
[21:34] <eitreach> My system refuses to boot, because my external drive "cannot yet be mounted". What can I do to fix this?
[21:34] <WaltzingAlong> eitreach: and if you remove the external to boot without it, then connect it later?
[21:35] <eitreach> WaltzingAlong: haven't tried that yet.
[21:35] <eitreach> I tried removing it from fstab though, but that didn't help.
[21:35] <Izinucs> eitreach: you also might remove the "boot from usb" bios option so you don't have to deal with that
[21:36] <eitreach> I just don't understand what went wrong. My plasma crashed, and after that, it started failing.
[21:37] <eitreach> It works fine with my live cd though.
[21:38] <eitreach> And if I simply re-install, it could end up happening again, without me being able to fix it.
[21:48] <eitreach> My system refuses to boot, because my external drive "cannot yet be mounted". What can I do to fix this?
[21:52] <Dekans> eitreach: just wait a few minutes, it does not block the boot for me
[21:53] <eitreach> Dekans: I waited around thirty minutes.
[21:53] <eitreach> still nothing.
[22:01] <Izinucs> eitreach: is this a pretty fresh install?
[22:02] <eitreach> It's a few days old.
[22:02] <Izinucs> eitreach: laptop? desktop with pcie video slot (used or not).. homebuilt or store bought
[22:03] <eitreach> Izinucs: desktop. store bought.. don't remmeber the brand though.
[22:03] <eitreach> wouldn't know about the pcie slot.
[22:03] <Izinucs> eitreach: when you installed was the external drive plugged in?
[22:04] <eitreach> I really don't know what happened. I changed the theme style in KDE 4, plasma crashed, and after that I couldn't mount my drive anymore.
[22:04] <eitreach> Izinucs: yeah.
[22:06] <Izinucs> eitreach: might have been the theme that did it.. could be a video issue.. could be a /etc/fstab line that needs commenting out (if the installer listed the external drive there)... could be the same issue I have. I have to have a mod in the kernel line to get mine to boot at all.. pci=nomsi .. due to pci buss conflicts because of PCIe implimentation on the motherboard and a bios that isn't "correct" so to speak.
[22:07] <eitreach> Izinucs: I tried removing the fstab line as well.
[22:07] <Izinucs> eitreach: if you don't have anything important on the drive how about simply reinstalling.. 30 minutes and you'd be back up.. if you do that don't have the external drive plugged in..
[22:08] <alumno00> Hallo, Can any tell me how can I configure my TV card for watching TV? It's a Avermedia HDTV DVB-T, USB-2.0
[22:08] <eitreach> Izinucs: because I want to be able to fix it, in case it happens again.
[22:08] <eitreach> because god knows it will, at some point.
[22:10] <Izinucs> understandable.. unfortunately I don't have much other advice.. it's a quirky problem..
[22:10] <eitreach> thanks for trying. :)
[22:11] <Izinucs> eitreach: have you tried in #kde?
[22:11] <eitreach> Izinucs: not yet.
[22:11] <Izinucs> might be worth a shot
[22:14] <slow-motion> hi
[22:21] <pressley> has anyone in here used 'good OS' or 'fluxbuntu'?
[22:21] <BluesKaj> alumno00, try tvtime
[22:29] <gaylord> Bonjour
[22:29] <gaylord> Je viens d'installer Kubuntu 9.10 64 bits avec succés.... Ca marche très bien.
[22:30] <gaylord> Juste pour Kopete : je n'arrive pas à avoir la webcam sur un compte MSN. Est-ce normal?
[22:32] <Kolia> !fr|gaylord
[22:32] <Kolia> gaylord: afaik kopete does not support webcam for msn
[22:33] <gaylord> ok sorry for my french . I go to ubuntu-fr. Thank you for your answer Kolia.
[22:45] <kaddi> hi, how do I change the icon for the "about kde" entry in the help-menu of every kde application?
[22:46] <kaddi> this is how it looks right now: http://www.pic-upload.de/view-4439913/help.png.html and I would like the "about kde" entry to take up less space
[22:54] <pghpete> I downloaded and tried to run the kubuntu live cd... it asks language, then I select "try out kubuntu", the the screen goes blank and it hangs.  I have tested the media, it says it's ok.
[22:55] <pghpete> I know it hasn't booted fully, since I do not get any audio, ctrl alt del doesn't work and not even the caps light on my keyboard will turn on or off.
[22:55] <pghpete> I have to hard power off the system.
[22:56] <pghpete> there are so many things it "could be" that I am having troubles finding an answer with google or on the kubuntu site.
[23:07] <mbana> y doesn't the file mananger show the preview of a video files
[23:09] <ilumi> mbana: why would you want it o
[23:09] <ilumi> to
[23:15] <mbana> ilumi: i hope u're joking
[23:15] <elexodus> I have 4x2TB in RAID5. There are currently 3 formatted particians: Dell Utility, Boot, and Ubuntu (ext4). There is an additional buttload of empty space that won't format. All I want is to make that extra space usable with TrueCrypt. Using gParted, I get the error message "partition length of<PHONE_NUMBER>5 sectors exceeds the msdos-partition-table-imposed maximum of<PHONE_NUMBER>"
[23:16] <alumno00> Hallo. I've a laptop and a video camera connected by HDMI cable. Is possible to watch camera in the laptop? Which program can I use?
[23:19] <chuckf> elexodus: it sounds like you're running into a FAT limitation
[23:20] <acidtoi> few moments ago made the switch from ubuntu to Kub and so far i found this thing it's annoying me: how do i do to make .bash_aliases work in konsole!?
[23:21] <elexodus> chuckf: Yes. I need to create a gpt partician table, but I'm trying not to lose the Dell Utility partician or the boot partician. I see that in Gparted, I can make a new partician table, but it will screw everything up.
[23:23] <elexodus> chuckf: I'm assuming that gpt is most ideal for a 5TB+ partitian. But I also need to be able to get Truecrypt to install an encrypted sector into that space once the new partician table has been made.
[23:25] <RumblePure> hi all!
[23:25] <RumblePure> just installed kubuntu on laptop, but that 3D globe wallpaper isn't there. Any idea how I can get it?
[23:26] <chuckf> what I'm saying is that for the ammount of space you are trying to format it is not possible to do the way you are trying because of FAT limitations. What file system are you using for the format and how much space is it that you are trying to manipulate?
[23:26] <Dragnslcr> acidtoi- shouldn't have to do anything special. Konsole just starts a regular bash shell
[23:26] <Black_HorseX> have you installed graphic card driver ?
[23:26] <RumblePure> Black_HorseX: moi? just installed nvidia driver v. 190
[23:29] <acidtoi> Dragnslcr: hello dude, ok, but back when i used ubuntu i used to have a .bashrc file in ~ alongside .bash_aliases so different aliases were predefined and loaded in terminal session, this didn't work in kubuntu since .bashrc file is missing!
[23:29] <acidtoi> Dragnslcr: I managed to find a cool .bashrc file in the net i'm adapting now to my needs, thanks anyways =)
[23:32] <RumblePure> the 3D earth desktop wallpaper for my laptop, any ideas?
[23:32] <RumblePure> nvidia drivers up and running. desktop effects good too.
[23:34] <mbana> y doesn't the file mananger show the preview of a video files
[23:37] <ghostsan> im a ubuntu newb
[23:38] <ghostsan> im having issue playing a matroska file with video lan
[23:38] <ghostsan> i tried different players but it wont play right
[23:38] <ghostsan> it keeps crashing or no sound on videolan
[23:50] <Duskao> does anyone know how to have a second hard drive automount?
[23:50] <Duskao> apon logging in, starting up.
[23:50] <ghostsan> everyone afk, i think i ask question too, but no answer
[23:52] <Duskao> whats your question?
[23:52] <Duskao> maybe I can help
[23:53] <ghostsan> [16:37] <ghostsan> im a ubuntu newb
[23:53] <ghostsan> [16:38] <ghostsan> im having issue playing a matroska file with video lan
[23:53] <ghostsan> [16:38] --> dedechan has joined this channel (~quassel@<IP_ADDRESS>).
[23:53] <ghostsan> [16:38] <ghostsan> i tried different players but it wont play right
[23:53] <ghostsan> [16:38] <ghostsan> it keeps crashing or no sound on videolan
[23:53] <FloodBotK3> ghostsan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:53] <ghostsan> thanks
[23:57] <Duskao> hmmm, not too sure.
[23:58] <Duskao> You use kubuntu or ubuntu?
[23:58] <Duskao> does your sound and video work with anything else?
[23:58] <Duskao> gaming? music?
[23:59] <ghostsan> ubuntu
[23:59] <ghostsan> yes, just with this particular fiel
[23:59] <Duskao> ok, well you know your on the kubuntu forum eh
[23:59] <ghostsan> i guess the file is bad
[23:59] <ghostsan> oh
[23:59] <Duskao> yeah, if it's just the single file, it's likely it is the file
[23:59] <ghostsan> thanks
[23:59] <Duskao> your best bet then would be VLC


[22:08] <tarregas>  not speak English, there is someone who speaks Spanish?
[22:08] <tarregas> Thanks!
[22:09] <pleia2> !es


[02:17] <lokad> hello together
[02:18] <lokad> i have issues with grub2 from ubuntu-ports for karmic
[02:18] <lokad> Bug #444562
[02:19] <lokad> ie i386 packages work, lpia do not
[12:41] <lokad> So, then hello again. Whom can I bother with problems related to the lpia port?
[12:42] <lokad> I've updated my bug-report at
[12:42] <lokad> #444562 on launchpa but now I'm stuck as what to do next


[16:17] <AnhVoMSFT> do we have the status meeting blackboxsw rharper
[16:18] <rharper> yes, we forgot to start it
[16:18] <blackboxsw>  AnhVoMSFT correct you are. time just slipped away. starting it now
[16:18] <blackboxsw> #startmeeting Cloud-init bi-weekly status
[16:18] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Oct  8 16:18:28 2019 UTC.  The chair is blackboxsw. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:18] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[16:18] <blackboxsw> Welcome back folks o/ And thanks AnhVoMSFT for the ping to get us started
[16:19] <blackboxsw>  #chair rharper Odd_Bloke
[16:19] <blackboxsw> #chair rharper Odd_Bloke
[16:19] <meetingology> Current chairs: Odd_Bloke blackboxsw rharper
[16:19] <blackboxsw> cloud-init upstream uses this meeting as a platform for community updates, feature/bug discussions, and an opportunity to get some extra input on current development.
[16:19] <Odd_Bloke> o/
[16:19] <Odd_Bloke> Thanks for the reminder, Anh.
[16:19] <blackboxsw> Feel free to interject at any time. Our typical format is the following: Previous Actions, Recent Changes, In-progress Development, Office Hours (~30 mins).
[16:21] <blackboxsw> For this, and subsequent, status meetings I proposed we add a new topic: Ongoing Community Charter  which would give context on the new trello lane we added at the cloud-init summit.
[16:21] <blackboxsw> Odd_Bloke: rharper AnhVoMSFT does that sound good? We can then better advertise and remind about long-term community involvement projects that are available for anyone
[16:22] <AnhVoMSFT> I would propose that the last agenda item of any status meeting would be to update the banner to reflect the next status meeting - and perhaps the next ETA for next release / SRU
[16:22] <blackboxsw> +1 AnhVoMSFT that sounds good too.
[16:22] <AnhVoMSFT> yep, sounds good on the Community Charter
[16:22] <rharper> AnhVoMSFT: +1
[16:22] <rharper> I think one topic each
[16:22] <rharper> and end with the next status meeting
[16:23] <blackboxsw> ok starting to turn the meeting crank
[16:23] <blackboxsw> #topic Previous Actions
[16:23] <blackboxsw> last meeting was 09/09/2019
[16:23] <blackboxsw> #link https://cloud-init.github.io/status-2019-09-09.html#status-2019-09-09
[16:23] <blackboxsw> meeting minutes at the link above ^
[16:24] <blackboxsw> only action was  #action blackboxsw send email to the list notifying of status meeting day change.
[16:24] <blackboxsw> which was done https://lists.launchpad.net/cloud-init/msg00224.html
[16:24] <blackboxsw> no further outstanding actions from last meeting
[16:25] <blackboxsw> #topic Recent Changes
[16:25] <blackboxsw>  The following branches have landed in tip since last meeting: via git log --since 2019-09-09
[16:27] <blackboxsw>     - Add RbxCloud datasource [Adam Dobrawy]
[16:27] <blackboxsw>     - get_interfaces: don't exclude bridge and bond members (LP: #1846535)
[16:27] <blackboxsw>     - Add support for Arch Linux in render-cloudcfg [Conrad Hoffmann]
[16:27] <blackboxsw>     - util: json.dumps on python 2.7 will handle UnicodeDecodeError on binary
[16:27] <blackboxsw>       (LP: #1801364)
[16:27] <blackboxsw> oopsie daisy
[16:27] <AnhVoMSFT> :)
[16:27] <blackboxsw> got kicked on flood. chunking that now
[16:27] <blackboxsw>     - Add RbxCloud datasource [Adam Dobrawy]
[16:27] <blackboxsw>     - get_interfaces: don't exclude bridge and bond members (LP: #1846535)
[16:27] <blackboxsw>     - Add support for Arch Linux in render-cloudcfg [Conrad Hoffmann]
[16:27] <blackboxsw>     - util: json.dumps on python 2.7 will handle UnicodeDecodeError on binary
[16:27] <blackboxsw>       (LP: #1801364)
[16:27] <blackboxsw>     - debian/ubuntu: add missing word to netplan/ENI header (LP: #1845669)
[16:27] <blackboxsw>     - ovf: do not generate random instance-id for IMC customization path
[16:27] <blackboxsw>     - sysconfig: only write resolv.conf if network_state has DNS values
[16:27] <blackboxsw>       (LP: #1843634)
[16:27] <blackboxsw>     - sysconfig: use distro variant to check if available (LP: #1843584)
[16:27] <blackboxsw>     - systemd/cloud-init.service.tmpl: start after wicked.service
[16:27] <blackboxsw>       [Robert Schweikert]
[16:27] <blackboxsw>     - docs: fix zstack documentation lints
[16:28] <blackboxsw>     - analyze/show: remove trailing space in output
[16:28] <blackboxsw>     - Add missing space in warning: "not avalid seed" [Brian Candler]
[16:28] <blackboxsw>     - pylintrc: add 'enter_context' to generated-members list
[16:28] <blackboxsw>     - Add datasource for ZStack platform. [Shixin Ruan] (LP: #1841181)
[16:28] <blackboxsw>     - docs: organize TOC and update summary of project [Joshua Powers]
[16:28] <blackboxsw>     - tools: make clean now cleans the dev directory, not the system
[16:28] <blackboxsw>     - docs: create cli specific page [Joshua Powers]
[16:28] <blackboxsw>     - docs: added output examples to analyze.rst [Joshua Powers]
[16:28] <blackboxsw>     - docs: doc8 fixes for instancedata page [Joshua Powers]
[16:28] <blackboxsw>     - docs: clean up formatting, organize boot page [Joshua Powers]
[16:28] <blackboxsw>     - net: add is_master check for filtering device list (LP: #1844191)
[16:28] <blackboxsw>     - docs: more complete list of availability [Joshua Powers]
[16:28] <blackboxsw>     - docs: start FAQ page [Joshua Powers]
[16:28] <blackboxsw>     - docs: cleanup output & order of datasource page [Joshua Powers]
[16:28] <blackboxsw>     - Brightbox: restrict detection to require full domain match .brightbox.com
[16:28] <blackboxsw>     - VMWware: add option into VMTools config to enable/disable custom script.
[16:28] <blackboxsw>       [Xiaofeng Wang]
[16:28] <blackboxsw>     - net,Oracle: Add support for netfailover detection
[16:28] <blackboxsw>     - atomic_helper: add DEBUG logging to write_file (LP: #1843276)
[16:29] <blackboxsw> Thanks Brian, Shixin Ruan, Conrad Hoffmann, Adam Dobrawy and robjo for the contributions over the last month!
[16:29] <blackboxsw> beyond tip commits to cloud-init the upstream team went through two SRUs of cloud-init
[16:30] <blackboxsw> it's also excellent to see new datasources like the  RbxCloud datasource added
[16:31] <blackboxsw> cloud-init just passed validation for Ubuntu Xenial, Bionic and Disco on the 2nd SRU 19.2-36-g059d049c-0ubuntu2
[16:31] <blackboxsw> cloud-images today should have that updated revision in them I blieve
[16:32] <blackboxsw> there are fixes for both Azure accelerated networking support and handling issues seen on MAAS network bridge configuration
[16:32] <AnhVoMSFT> on that note the last Azure image we had published was early September, which still didn't have the first SRU
[16:32] <AnhVoMSFT> is there something going on with the image publishing pipeline again?
[16:33] <blackboxsw> AnhVoMSFT: the publishing pipeline paused while we sorted the 2nd SRU pass for maas network bridge issues introduced by 19.2-36-g059d049c-0ubuntu1
[16:33] <AnhVoMSFT> i see - that makes sense
[16:34] <blackboxsw>  19.2-36-g059d049c-0ubuntu2 was verified as fixing all support there for both Azure and MAAS datasources and the expectation is that image builds are continuing today but I'll verify that the box is ✔ there on images rebuilding
[16:34] <Odd_Bloke> There may also be Azure-specific publication pipeline issues, which we wouldn't necessarily know about off-hand.
[16:34] <blackboxsw> #action blackboxsw verify cpc image builds are unpaused/unblocked for Azure
[16:34] <meetingology> ACTION: blackboxsw verify cpc image builds are unpaused/unblocked for Azure
[16:34] <blackboxsw> thx Odd_Bloke right
[16:35] <blackboxsw> looks like Odd_Bloke is already on that verification internally
[16:35] <blackboxsw> ok so SRU is through verification on our side. cloudimages should be getting latest version of cloud-init for Xenial, Bionic and Disco imminently
[16:36] <blackboxsw> I think that is *it* for Recent Changes
[16:36] <blackboxsw> #topic In-progress Development
[16:37] <blackboxsw> the SRU verification work took a bit of steam out of our current work in progress as it involved a lot of manual and upgrade scenario tests.
[16:37] <blackboxsw> But, as always we try to track ongoing work in trello
[16:37] <blackboxsw> #link https://trello.com/b/hFtWKUn3/daily-cloud-init-curtin
[16:38] <blackboxsw> there are a number of branches in progress that are of interest:
[16:39] <blackboxsw> Azure CI for one would be a great add for cloud-init's CI infrastructure
[16:39] <blackboxsw> https://code.launchpad.net/~ahosmanmsft/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/372957
[16:39] <blackboxsw> we need to get eyes on that this week if we can
[16:39] <blackboxsw> #action cloud-init upstream review https://code.launchpad.net/~ahosmanmsft/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/372957
[16:39] <meetingology> ACTION: cloud-init upstream review https://code.launchpad.net/~ahosmanmsft/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/372957
[16:39] <ahosmanmsft> That would be great
[16:40] <blackboxsw> there are also a number of freebsd branches that need to close out.
[16:40] <blackboxsw> and I know Odd_Bloke has started peeking at some initial github integration for CI.
[16:40] <blackboxsw> Odd_Bloke: any details you want to add about github CI at the moment?
[16:41] <Odd_Bloke> I've started iterating on a Travis configuration to run what we currently run in our CI pipeline.
[16:41] <Odd_Bloke> Unsurprisingly, setting up linting/unit testing was easy.
[16:42] <Odd_Bloke> The other thing we do is run some integration testing from a built deb file.  I got as far as being able to successfully sbuild the package in Travis, and ran into some initial stumbling blocks with running lxd.
[16:42] <Odd_Bloke> That's as far as I've got, I expect to pick that work back up this week.
[16:42] <blackboxsw> thanks Odd_Bloke , I've added the following card to trello for those interested.
[16:43] <blackboxsw> #link https://trello.com/c/pqA1adVM/1195-investigate-adding-github-travis-ci-to-cloud-init
[16:43] <blackboxsw> I think that about wraps in progress work. We'll tackle reviews a bit at the end of the meeting
[16:43] <blackboxsw> ok next topic
[16:44] <blackboxsw> #topic Community Charter
[16:45] <blackboxsw> at the cloud-init summit we decided to highlight community work in trello so that any community member with some dev cycles and interest can join in and contribute to ongoing tasks
[16:45] <blackboxsw> that lane is now in trello representing low-hanging-fruit content that upstream cloud-init is interested in completing, and that anyone can commit to.
[16:45] <blackboxsw> #link https://trello.com/b/hFtWKUn3/daily-cloud-init-curtin
[16:46] <blackboxsw> the lane is labelled "Community low-hanging-fruit" and currently contains a number of doc update work items  as well as json schema validation extensions for each cloud-init config module
[16:47] <blackboxsw> we invite everyone to participate and feel free to grab those items as they have interest
[16:47] <blackboxsw> we'll revisit this topic in each meeting so folks have context
[16:47] <blackboxsw> #topic Upcoming meetings and releases
[16:48] <blackboxsw> cloud-init upstream has just passed validation of cloud-init 19.2.36-*-ubuntu2  which should approved for upload into Xenial, Disco and Bionic (and queued for Eoan)
[16:48] <blackboxsw> the cloud build team will be generating images for various clouds imminently and we will confirm that build pipelines are active so platforms get new bits asap
[16:50] <blackboxsw> 19.3 upstream should by coming shortly, we will update the topic with the expected upstream release date and send an  email to the mailing list with the estimated upstream cut
[16:51] <blackboxsw> #action upstream cloud-init email about 19.3 release date
[16:51] <meetingology> ACTION: upstream cloud-init email about 19.3 release date
[16:52] <blackboxsw> next meeting is Oct 22
[16:52] <blackboxsw> same bat time same bat channel
[16:52] <blackboxsw> #topic Office Hours (next ~30 mins)
[16:52] <blackboxsw> we spend this time for reviews, bug triage and cloud-init discussions.
[16:53] <blackboxsw> upstream devs should have eyes on this channel. Thanks everyone for tuning in
[16:54] <AnhVoMSFT> have you had a chance to discuss about the python deprecation issue, or did the SRU verification take most of the time since the summit
[16:58] <blackboxsw> AnhVoMSFT: last week was vacation plus the remainder of us on sru verification  .
[17:00] <blackboxsw> But now we have cleared that hurdle we should we able to discuss it this week.
[17:00] <AnhVoMSFT> yep, sounds good.
[17:01] <blackboxsw> #action revisit python deprecation and report to mailinglist
[17:01] <meetingology> ACTION: revisit python deprecation and report to mailinglist
[17:01] <blackboxsw> Good meeting for actions
[17:54] <blackboxsw> Thanks for the participation folks I'll publish minutes to github
[17:54] <blackboxsw> #endmeeting
[17:54] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Oct  8 17:54:37 2019 UTC.
[17:54] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/cloud-init/2019/cloud-init.2019-10-08-16.18.moin.txt