[11:13] <debaser> Seb3DGE: not at all
[11:13] <Morget> mc44: nope, ubuntu/ubuntu is "incorrect username or password"
[11:13] <antidrugue> way too much traffic in here, hard to follow
[11:13] <papatwilight> how do i install xp useing vmware?
[11:13] <coal> E: couldn't find package bcm43xx-fwcutter
[11:13] <soundray> ejm: actually it's died down a bit. Last couple of days have been frantic
[11:13] <chernobylrpgfree> Teedy77: Lots of scroll, did you get that?
[11:14] <debaser> Seb3DGE: that's strange
[11:14] <imon9> hello..can someone tell me what it the command to un-make a installation that i compile with make install?
[11:14] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: That's bad; is this computer not able to go online?
[11:14] <ubd> antidrugue: i need to create a torrent from my folder and files in it then upload the .torrent to a tracker. so people can get my folders
[11:14] <Teedy77> chernobylrpgfree: I don't have a wireless or lan listing i do show an RT2500 802.11g so thats my bet.
[11:14] <antidrugue> coal: do you have "universe" repository enabled?
[11:14] <Seb3DGE> debaser: probably because I erased the partition table?
[11:14] <coal> I'm not sure
[11:14] <debaser> Seb3DGE: maybe the way ubuntu manages devices
[11:14] <boojit> papatwilight: you want to install XP as a guest under a slackware host running vmware workstation?
[11:14] <debaser> Seb3DGE: ups
[11:14] <coal> I've done virtually nothing configuration-wise with my computer
[11:14] <debaser> Seb3DGE: well
[11:14] <yell0w> soundray, uhm it's a copy program ?
[11:14] <chernobylrpgfree> Teedy77: That's it.  What's the whole line for that say?
[11:14] <haru> ermm can someone help me
[11:14] <mc44> Morget: ubuntu/no pass
[11:14] <antidrugue> udb: personally i use azureus to do that, you can check azureus wiki for more details, or your favorite torrent client wiki
[11:14] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: Try typing "nslookup google.com" and see if you get an answer
[11:14] <debaser> Seb3DGE: that's a major problem, I refused to believe it when you told me but...
[11:14] <boojit> oops sorry thought i was still in #slacwaqrek
[11:15] <Teedy77>   product: RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI
[11:15] <Teedy77>   product: RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI
[11:15] <chernobylrpgfree> haru: Ask your question and hope someone sees it =)
[11:15] <soundray> imon9: some programs provide a "make uninstall", but with most of them, you have to remove the installed files one by one
[11:15] <\xq> udb: Go here http://btfaq.com/serve/cache/56.html bittorent or check out another program like you are also being told
[11:15] <haru> my amarok keeps telling me xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers.. tho things worked fine till i had gstreamer
[11:15] <[koji] > help i cannot see gnome-panel when another app is active (xchat in this case)
[11:15] <antidrugue> coal: enable "universe" repositories in System->Administration-> Software Repositories
[11:15] <soundray> imon9: unless you used checkinstall to install
[11:15] <\xq> any xchat users who autojoin channels and auto identify to nickserv? ;P
[11:15] <ubd> ok antidrugue & /xq
[11:15] <soundray> yell0w: yes
[11:15] <chernobylrpgfree> Teedy77: hmm, that's pretty uninformative..
[11:15] <Seb3DGE> debaser: hm, I just hope I didn't f***k up my 400gb drive too... I had everything on that drive... :P
[11:15] <haru> chernobylrpgfree, hope so :)
[11:15] <debaser> Seb3DGE: how did you delet the partition table?
[11:15] <papatwilight> wich is the best way uder ubuntu?
[11:15] <imon9> no i didnt
[11:15] <\xq> haru: If you click where the panel is supposed to be (right click), nothing comes up? Not even in corner?
[11:15] <MonKi> who can help me with memory SD on feisty?
[11:15] <imon9> i guess i will just delete it from the sysmte manually
[11:15] <reyn> I have /usr/lib/libSDL_ttf-2.0.so.0, but ldd ./binaryname returns:  libSDL_ttf-2.0.so.0 => not found, is this a 32/64bit issue ?
[11:15] <phaedra> \xq,  Yes...
[11:15] <yell0w> soundray, i thought i was looking for wiping program ?
[11:15] <Teedy77> chernobylrpgfree: It is, however, I discovered an RT2500 post in the forums.
[11:15] <coal> nothing happens
[11:16] <antidrugue> paptwillight: which what is the best?
[11:16] <coal> oh
[11:16] <theBishop> i want to buy a USB Wireless network adapter for my brother to use in Ubuntu.  Of the ones available at Newegg, which work in linux with built-in drivers?
[11:16] <soundray> yell0w: to overwrite hda with zeros: 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda'
[11:16] <chernobylrpgfree> Teedy77: That's a good place to start then, sorry I couldn't be more help
[11:16] <Teedy77> So I'm going to take a look through that one first and then ask for more assistance if needed, thanks so far.
[11:16] <coal> lemme try enabling universe and such
[11:16] <debaser> Seb3DGE: it's a complicated problem
[11:16] <haru> \xq, panel for amarok ?
[11:16] <Seb3DGE> debaser: I used fdisk (dunno why, was looking for some way to fix the boot), it told me there are some errors to be fixed and they would be if I pressed "w"
[11:16] <Morget> mc44: nope, that didn't work either.  Odd that the liveCD should have a password.
[11:16] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: yeah, you need that haha
[11:16] <debaser> Seb3DGE: how did you do it?
[11:16] <papatwilight> way to install xp under vmware-player
[11:16] <debaser> Seb3DGE: wow
[11:16] <\xq> haru: Oh, you are trying to get Amarok panel back up if it disappears? Not gnome panel?
[11:16] <antidrugue> !windows > papatwilight
[11:17] <haru> \xq, well actually i am trying to get sound output..
[11:17] <mwe> Seb3DGE: I doesn't sound likely that the drive itself would be destroyed, then
[11:17] <mc44> Morget: hrm.. it really shoudlnt
[11:17] <debaser> Seb3DGE: and now you can't boot only ubuntu
[11:17] <\xq> Sorry, this was to [kogi]
[11:17] <debaser> Seb3DGE: but you can boot vista and xp
[11:17] <haru> \xq, the panels work fine.. except when i play something it gives me "xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers"
[11:17] <kane77> how can I get libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 on 64-bit?
[11:17] <[koji] > help my apps don't have any window decoration
[11:17] <Seb3DGE> nope, I can't boot anything
[11:17] <Jelte> how to make a playlist in exaile if i add tracks and i quit and i run again the track are not in the playlist
[11:18] <\xq> [kogi]  read what i asked.
[11:18] <Seb3DGE> before I messed up with fdisk, I was able to boot in XP and vista
[11:18] <haru> \xq, been happening since i changed from gstreamer to xine engine
[11:18] <debaser> Seb3DGE: ok
[11:18] <Seb3DGE> now all I see is a blinking cursor
[11:18] <Seb3DGE> :P
[11:18] <Morget> mc44: looking on VT1, it reports "User not known to the underlying authentication module".
[11:18] <Seb3DGE> should I start a complete reinstall of everything? :)
[11:18] <grayman> Seb3DGE, big lose?
[11:18] <debaser> Seb3DGE: where did you run fdisk from? xp, vista, ubuntu or other?
[11:18] <Seb3DGE> debaser: ubuntu livecd
[11:18] <coal> uh okay, i got no answer from nslookup google.com and there is no software repositories option in Administration
[11:18] <debaser> Seb3DGE: maybe you'll have to do that
[11:19] <mwe> Seb3DGE: you may have luck using testdisk
[11:19] <Hattori> '-U <umask for files>:<umask for dirs>': Change the file creation mask. --> what should be the values to let it create files with rw attributes for owner and group and r for others?
[11:19] <soundray> Seb3DGE: if you're lucky, you can rescue your partitions with gpart (note not gparted)
[11:19] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: You got no answer, therefore, no internet connection to that computer.  Do you have a USB storage device and USB ports on both computers?
[11:19] <Seb3DGE> hm
[11:19] <Seb3DGE> so there's still hope? :D
[11:19] <antidrugue> coal: hum? which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[11:19] <[koji] > \xq what did you ask
[11:19] <coal> Yessir
[11:19] <coal> 6.10
[11:19] <debaser> Seb3DGE: surely
[11:19] <delf0s> feisty fawn is the best OS to date... mmmm love it
[11:19] <Jelte> how to make a playlist in exaile if i add tracks and i quit and i run again the track are not in the playlist
[11:19] <mwe> Seb3DGE: I don't have much experience with it but supposedly it can find lost partitions
[11:19] <Seb3DGE> you're fantastic guys
[11:19] <leleobhz> the (k)ubuntu dvd can be burned in DAO mode?
[11:19] <leleobhz> someone know?
[11:19] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: OK, great.  You can download the bcm43xx-fwcutter package directly to your USB stick, and put it on the lappy that way.
[11:19] <antidrugue> coal: in System->ADministration , there is no Software Repositories?
[11:19] <Seb3DGE> all this happened just after I finally got everything working ok
[11:20] <\xq> [kogi]  ... when you click where panels are supposed to be (right click) does anything display or do they crash?
[11:20] <coal> none at all
[11:20] <delf0s> anyone know how i can get the trashcan icon on my desktop?
[11:20] <Morget> delf0s: Feisty will be the best OS to date .... when it lets me get in!  For some reason the liveCD is passworded here.
[11:20] <coal> and where can I download it?
[11:20] <Seb3DGE> reinstalling and tweaking everything again would be a pain in the ass :P
[11:20] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: I am locating the file now.
[11:20] <mwe> Seb3DGE: fdisk is buggy as hell. use cfdisk next time ;)
[11:20] <Seb3DGE> so, what should I do now? sudo gpart?
[11:20] <[koji] > \xq can't get to panel if another app is active right now its xchat
[11:20] <grayman> Morget, errr, it's passworded?
[11:20] <antidrugue> coal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[11:20] <delf0s> Morget: What OS do you have now?
[11:20] <kahrytan> soundray: New user now hangs on login now. When I removed nvidia binary,  User & Groups window did load but not won't. Nvidia binary isn't installed.
[11:20] <coal> thanks
[11:20] <Seb3DGE> mwe: I guess I'll never use anything similar again ;)
[11:20] <Zerro> hi i have a quick question: is there a launcher like in tirger x os for mac ?? (i mean that you can just type in the name of the app and it will launch it)
[11:21] <Jelte> oeii very bussy here..:P
[11:21] <debaser> Zerro: Alt+F2
[11:21] <Jelte> how to make a playlist in exaile if i add tracks and i quit and i run again the track are not in the playlist
[11:21] <coal> ehm, antidrugue, that's for the universal repository right?
[11:21] <soundray> kahrytan: I'm sorry you ended up with such a messed up system.
[11:21] <antidrugue> Zerro: ALT+F2
[11:21] <Teedy77> Apologies again for literally being so totally foreign to this, but how do I use GTKWiki instead of Network-Manager?  I installed the package, but that means nothing to me.
[11:21] <mwe> Seb3DGE: well I recommend you look into testdisk if you want a chance of saving your partitions
[11:21] <antidrugue> coal: for all repositories
[11:21] <grayman> Morget, where did you get your livecd from?
[11:21] <coal> what should I do?
[11:21] <[koji] > \xq when i try show desktop, it says it is not supported by my windows manager
[11:21] <leleobhz> noone?
[11:21] <wayah> I am having a problem with my sound on my laptop.
[11:21] <wayah> can someone help?
[11:21] <Morget> delf0s + grayman : this is a blank machine with nothing on it, old dual celery 500.  I think some Feisty bits were compiled for 686, and the failures on celery are causing some passwording to kick in.
[11:21] <grayman> Morget, and where it asks you for a password?
[11:21] <SlowLight> Hi all, I woulad like to know if anyone have experiance with installing ubuntu as a lan server, anyone can help please?
[11:21] <antidrugue> coal: you should have all for: main, restricted, universe and multiverse
[11:22] <Seb3DGE> so.. sudo testdisk instead?
[11:22] <debaser> !sound
[11:22] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:22] <[koji] > \xq all after my feisty upgrade
[11:22] <\xq> [kogi]  you are saying multiple things. I am trying to understand. You open XChat and your PLANELS for gnome disappear (like one in the upper left) or your entire desktop crahses (gnome for example)?
[11:22] <kahrytan> soundray: I wish there was actual errors to report.  or Knew how it happen. I would file bug report then.
[11:22] <atrus> Seb3DGE: fwiw, last time i was in a position like that, 'parted' found all my partitions and rewrote the partition table appropriately.
[11:22] <[koji] > \xq they are all related
[11:22] <mc44> Morget: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=414344&highlight=livecd+password
[11:22] <mc44> Morget: maybe a disk error?
[11:22] <\xq> [kogi]  Yes, so gnome crashes basically?
[11:22] <Morget> grayman: from UK Mirror Service, because the main Ubuntu site was aborting downloads after a few hundred meg.  But the MD5SUM is correct.
[11:22] <deep> How much power would be needed on a server that would port internet to 2 other computers?
[11:22] <soundray> Seb3DGE: testdisk and gpart do a complex job. You should read the docs to understand what they do and how to operate them.
[11:23] <Morget> mc44: thanks, looking
[11:23] <coal> i haev software SOURCES on the list
[11:23] <[koji] > i can't say gnome maybe the windows manager
[11:23] <Seb3DGE> should I try with parted first?
[11:23] <antidrugue> ok, i am out of here, just too much traffic in here, i am taking a break from this
[11:23] <kahrytan> soundray: Thank you for trying.
[11:23] <\xq> Compiz or something? What is being used?
[11:23] <\xq> GTK / Beryl?
[11:23] <antidrugue> coal: that's what i meant
[11:23] <boojit> deep you mean in terms of CPU power?
[11:23] <Zerro> oki thanks but there is no other where you can just type and it will search for the app and launch it like on mac ??
[11:23] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: the package is at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/b/bcm43xx-fwcutter/bcm43xx-fwcutter_006-1_i386.deb
[11:23] <papatwilight> or is qemu a better option?
[11:23] <boojit> deep: not much, if that's what you're asking.
[11:24] <[koji] > \xq whatever gnomes default
[11:24] <soundray> kahrytan: it may be worth reporting the problem as a bug even without error messages.
[11:24] <deep> boojit, yeah? as in, what cpufrequency would be best?
[11:24] <[koji] > \xq how do i check
[11:24] <coal> okay i downloaded it
[11:24] <deep> best and best. Minimum.
[11:24] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: download that onto your USB storage and plug that into the laptop
[11:24] <kahrytan> soundray: but can't fixed if no one knows how to duplicate.
[11:24] <kahrytan> soundray or fix it.
[11:24] <coal> and run it>?
[11:24] <chris90> in /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf, i need to use /usr/bin/bluepin instead of bluez-pin. can someone help me do this because i cant work it out
[11:25] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: yeah run it on the linux box
[11:25] <soundray> deep: you need very little computational power for that. Any old Pentium will do. Even a 486, but those are rare now...
[11:25] <mwe> Seb3DGE: I don't think gparted can find lost partitions
[11:25] <boojit> deep: you're just routing stuff between two interfaces, with probably a dhcp server thrown in for good measure. As soundray said, you can do that with a pentium.
[11:25] <boojit> lesser hardware does exactly that on linux-based network appliances
[11:25] <debaser> Seb3DGE: use testdisk
[11:25] <coal> okay gonna go run it
[11:25] <cotton> Which one do I download? http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
[11:26] <Seb3DGE> command not found
[11:26] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: OK, it would help to have the laptop next to this computer
[11:26] <Seb3DGE> :P
[11:26] <cotton> And how do I execute a .bin?
[11:26] <atrus> Seb3DGE / mwe: no, but parted, its console-based cousin  can.
[11:26] <deep> Ah, okay, thanx m8s.
[11:26] <Seb3DGE> sudo apt-get install testdisk I imagine
[11:26] <assasukasse> i have a problem, i uninstalled mplayer but firefox still sees mplayer plugin and doesn't want to run some file with totem, what can i do
[11:26] <mwe> atrus: I see
[11:26] <Morget> mc44: I'll try reburning it then.  But it's bizarre that bad burns (if so) cause authentication to kick in.
[11:26] <bud_> hello, need help over gdm strange problem, im running ubuntu feisty on hp nx6110 laptop, with intel i915 graphic card
[11:26] <soundray> deep: you might actually consider buying a cheap router such as a Linksys WRT54GL, because it uses much less energy than a standard PC
[11:26] <atrus> Seb3DGE: google pointed me at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=146705
[11:26] <soundray> deep: about 10W
[11:27] <Teedy77> Apologies again for literally being so totally foreign to this, but how do I use GTKWiki instead of Network-Manager?  I installed the package, but that means nothing to me.
[11:27] <kiersie> cotto:n to make him exutable
[11:27] <cotton> How do uninstall apache,php, and mysql?  I can't find any docs explaining how to
[11:27] <bud_> can anyone help
[11:27] <mc44> Morget: right. may not be the problem but worth a try
[11:27] <chernobylrpgfree> bud_: what is your problem
[11:27] <jandro> hello, I have got an avi file (got from a dv video camera) which when i try to play it, totem just display 0:00 (Streaming), and doesn't do anything else. Any idea about what's going on? Thanks
[11:27] <badkitt1> hmm
[11:27] <chernobylrpgfree> jandro: check the ubuntu wiki on restricted formats
[11:27] <Cosmo_> on several games when I start them they are off kilter between my 2 monitors, is there a way I can force them into a window that can be moved betweem the monitors?
[11:27] <atrus> Seb3DGE: you can read the man page for parted and see if that helps, but you probabbly want to make sure you've got somebody familiar to help when you do it.
[11:27] <safrus> can i get some assistance with fixing my  resolution please?
[11:27] <boojit> although soundray is right about the cheap linksys, there's a lot to be said for what you'll learn setting up your own router
[11:27] <deep> soundray, i am using a router now. But it is buggy as hell. ;(
[11:28] <soundray> cotton: identify the names of the packages you want to get rid of. Then run 'sudo apt-get --purge remove package1 package2' etc.
[11:28] <coal> Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6
[11:28] <boojit> deep: it's a good exercise to do.
[11:28] <soundray> deep: what kind?
[11:28] <coal> not too sure that I got the libc6 part right but that's waht it said
[11:28] <atrus> Seb3DGE: gpart looks pretty good too though.
[11:28] <rogue780|laptop> I'm trying to replace the usplash theme with a custom one in feisty, I replaced the usplash-theme-ubuntu.so file with my own usplash-theme-ubuntu.so file. the theme works when I'm shutting down, but when I start up it flashes for less than 1/4 of a second and the default theme appears...can someone help me figure this out? thanks
[11:28] <chernobylrpgfree> Teedy77: Not sure if this is what you meant, but, try enabling the "roaming mode" on your wireless card in the config
[11:28] <soundray> boojit: I learned a lot putting OpenWrt on a Linksys ;)
[11:28] <deep> soundray, some wireless netgear-router
[11:28] <atrus> Seb3DGE: http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/user/76201/gpart/
[11:28] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: UGH.  You'll need to wire that computer to the internet first.
[11:28] <soundray> deep: do you happen to have the exact model name?
[11:29] <boojit> soundray: yeah that's true. I thought you were saying, just using the out-of-the-box firmware
[11:29] <coal> oh boy
[11:29] <hector> how do I make my webcam to work?
[11:29] <jandro> chernobylrpgfree: i have already installed restricted formats
[11:29] <safrus> i did aptget for nvidia drivers, no fix, ddcprobe doesnt display vert/horiz, just resolutions, i edit xorg.conf with manufactures listed vert/horiz and no help there either
[11:29] <coal> well, the router/adapter are wireless, and I run on DSL
[11:29] <deep> soundray, VGR614, v. 7 (:
[11:29] <bud_> chernobylrpgfree: when i boot ubuntu and i get gdm i cant type my username and passwd in username and passwd field, but when i go to console (ctrl+alt+f1), and then go back in gdm, than i can type my username and passwd
[11:29] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: that was a newer version you got there, i guess.  You could try <a href="http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/b/bcm43xx-fwcutter/bcm43xx-fwcutter_20060501-5_i386.deb">bcm43xx-fwcutter_20060501-5_i386.deb</a>?
[11:29] <boojit> of course, he could do it on a PC and use it for other stuff in addition to the router, which is exactly what i do.
[11:29] <axe> 3
[11:29] <cotton> soundray:
[11:29] <cotton> jordan@jordan-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get --purge php5 MySQL Apache
[11:29] <cotton> E: Invalid operation php5
[11:29] <axe> woops
[11:29] <soundray> boojit: for a router like that I don't think I would bother, though
[11:29] <deep> soundray, the bugs are at the port forwarding. If i add more then 7, the 8 one just "dissapears"
[11:29] <jandro> chernobylrpgfree: i can play perfectly another avi videos
[11:29] <deep> soundray, cant change or delete it
[11:30] <chernobylrpgfree> jandro: Then you need a codec, it varies from file to file...
[11:30] <soundray> cotton: no, the package names are all lowercase
[11:30] <rogue780|laptop> I'm trying to replace the usplash theme with a custom one in feisty, I replaced the usplash-theme-ubuntu.so file with my own usplash-theme-ubuntu.so file. the theme works when I'm shutting down, but when I start up it flashes for less than 1/4 of a second and the default theme appears...can someone help me figure this out? thanks
[11:30] <Ax3> does anyone have a copy of windows nx client 1.5 ?
[11:30] <badkitt1> Anyone familiar with ubuntu in vmware?
[11:30] <chernobylrpgfree> bud_: that's a new one on me.  Have you checked the forums for anything similar?
[11:30] <coal> bad link
[11:30] <atrus> Seb3DGE: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2465510 may also be helpful.
[11:30] <rogue780|laptop> badkitt1, nope...don't see the point
[11:30] <chernobylrpgfree> coal : ok trying again.. http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/b/bcm43xx-fwcutter/bcm43xx-fwcutter_20060501-5_i386.deb
[11:30] <bud_> chernobylrpgfree: no, but i googled and didnt find anything similar
[11:31] <coal> there we go
[11:31] <cotton> soundray:
[11:31] <cotton> jordan@jordan-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get --purge php5 mysql apache
[11:31] <cotton> E: Invalid operation php
[11:31] <bud_> cotton: sudo apt-get --purge php5 mysql apache
[11:31] <bud_> cotton: sudo apt-get remove --purge php5 mysql apache
[11:31] <chernobylrpgfree> bud_: i wouldn't know that one, sorry.  Anybody else have any ideas - he says he has to switch vterms before the GDM will let him log in?
[11:31] <soundray> cotton: you have to find out the real package names.
[11:31] <badkitt1> rogue: well Im running winxp with virtualised ubuntu and fedora
[11:32] <soundray> cotton: if all else fails, look at the names of the directories in /usr/share/doc
[11:32] <oramplu> hi
[11:32] <Seb3DGE> Well
[11:32] <soundray> deep: do you have the latest firmware on it?
[11:32] <Seb3DGE> I'll read the manuals of both
[11:32] <chernobylrpgfree> cotton: you need the command remove after --purge, yes?
[11:32] <Seb3DGE> and see what I can do
[11:32] <grayman> badkitt1, and what seems to be the problem?
[11:32] <Seb3DGE> hopefully I'll rescue everything
[11:32] <Seb3DGE> :P
[11:32] <rogue780|laptop> badkitt1, still don't see the point...why not just install them on your hard drive? oh well it doesn't matter
[11:32] <rogue780|laptop> I'm trying to replace the usplash theme with a custom one in feisty, I replaced the usplash-theme-ubuntu.so file with my own usplash-theme-ubuntu.so file. the theme works when I'm shutting down, but when I start up it flashes for less than 1/4 of a second and the default theme appears...can someone help me figure this out? thanks
[11:32] <dooglus> chernobylrpgfree: no
[11:32] <deep> soundray, i dont know. I guess i could try update.
[11:32] <oramplu> I might just be slow in the head but.. is there a page listing the major updates/differences 6.10->7.04?
[11:32] <Seb3DGE> I guess I'll be back here soon tho :D
[11:32] <oramplu> because I can't for the life of me find it
[11:32] <atrus> Seb3DGE: good luck, and don't give it up without a fight :)
[11:32] <Ax3> nevermind, i tend to answer my own questions cuz you guys take too long lol
[11:33] <jandro> chernobylrpgfree: in the properties  tab of the file it shows video/x-msvideo and "Generic dv", any idea?
[11:33] <soundray> deep: your model sounds like it's fairly recent, so there's a chance that they will fix bugs like that.
[11:33] <chernobylrpgfree> jandro: Never heard of "generic dv".... that's new to me =(
[11:33] <soundray> deep: consider calling their support, too
[11:33] <cotton> sound ray, is it the command you gave me or: sudo apt-get remove --purge php5 mysql apache
[11:33] <whaley_> nvidia in fiesty problem:  I am unable to set my resolution to anything above 800x600 after the upgrade.  I have nvidia-legacy glx drivers installed.  In Edgy I could go up to higher resolutions.  My xorg.conf has higher resolutions listed in the modes subsection of each Display directive.  The driver I have listed is nvidia.  Any ideas?
[11:34] <coal> okay I installed it
[11:34] <weltschmerz> i think my upgrade to feisty destroyed all of my music.  Tons and tons and tons of music.
[11:34] <chris90> how do i restart a file/application with the terminal?
[11:34] <weltschmerz> for no reason.
[11:34] <jandro> chernobylrpgfree: would you know where to ask about it? i really need this video
[11:34] <soundray> cotton: the order does not matter
[11:34] <dooglus> weltschmerz: how'd it do that?
[11:34] <badkitt1> grayman: Im wondering... I have ubuntu getting dhcp from the router but the ip address it is getting is such that I cannot port forward ftp traffic from my router to it
[11:34] <chernobylrpgfree> jandro: I wouldn't, video just isn't my thing, i do networking =)
[11:34] <mstevens> weltschmerz: feisty comes with a new "taste filter" subsystem.   Now, you need the SYS file from the windows driver;
[11:35] <coal> okay which windows driver
[11:35] <deep`> soundray, i think i updated it now. Ill try adding some new forwards to see if it works. :)
[11:35] <cotton> !LAMP
[11:35] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:35] <jandro> hello, I have got an avi file (got from a dv video camera) which when i try to play it, totem just display 0:00 (Streaming), and doesn't do anything else. Any idea about what's going on? Thanks
[11:35] <chowmeined> wow
[11:35] <soundray> cotton: yes, it did
[11:35] <chowmeined> it is so easy to install beryl
[11:35] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: the driver for the wireless card.  Is it the same kind of card for the laptop and the windows machine?
[11:35] <grayman> badkitt1, hmmm, what kind of networking it got? do you get a seperate ip for it?
[11:35] <randy> Hey all.
[11:35] <weltschmerz> mstevens then when rsync just ran, to back up my database on my second hard drive, which is just for backup storage of my music, it erased all my music.
[11:35] <coal> woah
[11:35] <weltschmerz> on the backup.
[11:35] <grayman> badkitt1, or share hosts ip
[11:35] <weltschmerz> why did feisty do this?
[11:35] <badkitt1> grayman: It is a different ip address than the host computer yes
[11:35] <coal> i don't think i have a card :c
[11:35] <safrus> anyone that can help me with resolution problem?
[11:35] <coal> it's just an adapter
[11:35] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: same thing haha
[11:36] <randy> Anyone use a wintv pvr go under Feisty?
[11:36] <coal> lul
[11:36] <grayman> badkitt1, should work normally
[11:36] <coal> i'm not sure where the driver is
[11:36] <soundray> [22:28]  <soundray> cotton: identify the names of the packages you want to get rid of. Then run 'sudo apt-get --purge remove package1 package2' etc.
[11:36] <Zerro> do someone can help me with a problem with beryl ? when i run beryl-manager after it starts up all my windows get border less and i can't move them also none of the themes works but there is a cube desktop etc.
[11:36] <woodyn87> At wits end here, installed and mounted a second (slave in windows terms) drive, can see it in file browser but it has "root" as the owner and I can't access any ideas?
[11:36] <delire> isn't there a #beryl?
[11:36] <grayman> badkitt1, what prevents you from forwarding?
[11:36] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: thats the important thing, really.  You'll need the driver disk for that adapter, or at least the driver's SYS file.
[11:36] <badkitt1> grayman but the regular ip is xxx.xxx.0.x but the ubuntu ip is getting xxx.xxx.258.x or something
[11:36] <ferret> delire: #ubuntu-effects
[11:36] <ferret> Zerro: ^
[11:36] <mstevens> weltschmerz: I have no clue actually, I just couldn't resist the joke
[11:36] <Jove``> Zerro: try "reload window decorator" from beryl-manager
[11:36] <dooglus> weltschmerz: so you think rsync erased your music?
[11:36] <coal> oh
[11:36] <weltschmerz> i had tons of stuff in /usr/share/ that feisty DESTROYED!!!
[11:36] <coal> i need the disk it came with?
[11:36] <delire> Zerro: #ubuntu-effects is best for you
[11:37] <grayman> badkitt1, hm
[11:37] <splinter> Zerro: right click on the beryl icon at the top, i think theres an option to restart theme manager
[11:37] <badkitt1> So the router tells me I cant forward to this ip because of perhaps a different subnet???
[11:37] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: if you don't have it, check http://www.driverguide.com/ for it (user "drivers" pw "all")
[11:37] <weltschmerz> dooglus once the source was deleted, rysc --delete obviously deleted the destination to match.
[11:37] <weltschmerz> oh my GOD.
[11:37] <grayman> badkitt1, weird.
[11:37] <coal> oh man thank you
[11:37] <safrus> anyone that can help me with resolution problem?
[11:37] <arooni> help!
[11:37] <rogue780|laptop> !libdvdcss
[11:37] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:37] <arooni> Errno::ENOENT: No such file or directory - /tmp/mysql.sock
[11:37] <weltschmerz> i wondered why my drive was so busy during my sunday rsync when i had no music added.
[11:37] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: get back with me when you have the driver.
[11:37] <dooglus> weltschmerz: what deleted the source?
[11:37] <pirate-king> hello
[11:37] <weltschmerz> dooglus upgrading to feisty.
[11:37] <oramplu> also, i'm getting "the composite extension is not available" when trying to access the new desktop effects
[11:37] <badkitt1> Would setting up a static ip config fix the problem? Im just wondering why linux would get an ip like that from dhcp
[11:37] <pirate-king> anybody using freenas?
[11:37] <arooni> help!  i just upgraded to feisty from ubuntu, and now mysql doesnt work: Errno::ENOENT: No such file or directory - /tmp/mysql.sock ..... ideas?
[11:37] <weltschmerz> feisty destroyed /usr/share/music/
[11:37] <weltschmerz> wtf!!
[11:38] <rogue780|laptop> I'm trying to replace the usplash theme with a custom one in feisty, I replaced the usplash-theme-ubuntu.so file with my own usplash-theme-ubuntu.so file. the theme works when I'm shutting down, but when I start up it flashes for less than 1/4 of a second and the default theme appears...can someone help me figure this out? thanks
[11:38] <dooglus> weltschmerz: sounds like a good reason not to upgrade.  thanks for that.
[11:38] <soundray> weltschmerz: that's painful
[11:38] <weltschmerz> 0 14 * * 7 rsync -a --delete /usr/share/AUDIO/ /media/backup/AUDIO
[11:38] <weltschmerz> dear god!
[11:38] <badkitt1> I figured it was someting to do with because it is in vmware but I dunno
[11:38] <dooglus> weltschmerz: did you raise a bug report in the bts?
[11:38] <weltschmerz> no wait..i think i found it.
[11:38] <coal> okay i should look up the model of the adapter I have right?
[11:39] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: Yeah.
[11:39] <Nekomagesdesu> would anyone happen to have a working vnc service how-to to allow remote machines onto my current display?
[11:39] <grayman> badkitt1, ok hmmmm. No idea why but let me check something first
[11:39] <vox754> weltschmerz, if you aren't asking a question I suggest you go rant at #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:39] <Deinumite> is it possible to install Ubuntu from your harddrive? if you have the iso?
[11:39] <Zerro> thanks but i still at the same problem it restarts but nothing more ... btw i'am on a x86_64 machine
[11:39] <soundray> weltschmerz: please don't use /usr/share for user data.
[11:39] <arooni> chasetoys@LilArooni:~/workspace/rails$ autotest -railsbash: /usr/bin/autotest: /usr/bin/ruby1.8: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[11:39] <nathan> HEY
[11:39] <arooni> help!  i just upgraded to feisty from ubuntu, and now mysql doesnt work: Errno::ENOENT: No such file or directory - /tmp/mysql.sock ..... ideas?
[11:39] <woodyn87> Nek, I have a working VNC whatayaneed?
[11:39] <coal> okay for search type do I pick other?
[11:40] <nathan> how can you connect to servers like EFNET??
[11:40] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: Network adapter.
[11:40] <kiersie>  use /home/(your acount
[11:40] <coal> ah right=
[11:40] <Nekomagesdesu> woodyn87, I just need to get any vnc server software setup to allow remote connections on the current display
[11:40] <Nekomagesdesu> without creating a new one
[11:40] <coal> network card
[11:40] <soundray> Nekomagesdesu: what's wrong with System-Preferences-Remote Desktop?
[11:40] <Nekomagesdesu> soundray, I can't connect from another machine using that
[11:40] <coal> found one
[11:40] <chernobylrpgfree> arooni: mysql.sock is usually created by mysql.  Make sure that your tmp drive is mounted OK (should be listed in the output of mount)
[11:40] <woodyn87> and you have to forward the port on your router if the other machine is outside your network.
[11:41] <Zerro> oh yea and another think how do i get a channel on ubuntu server ?
[11:41] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: OK, get that and look for a SYS file inside it.
[11:41] <randomwalker> i keep hearing about vmware in feisty.. is it free?
[11:41] <soundray> Nekomagesdesu: you should be able to, though. Is there a firewall in between?
[11:41] <Deinumite> is there anyway to boot from the iso if its on my harddrive?
[11:41] <Nekomagesdesu> woodyn87, this is all local network using a doze machine with tightvnc viewer
[11:41] <coal> hey I'll brb I'll download it though
[11:41] <bud_> chernobylrpgfree: thanks anyway
[11:41] <arooni> chernobylrpgfree: how do i check tmp drive is mounted oK?
[11:41] <Nekomagesdesu> soundray, nope just keep getting a cannot connect
[11:41] <bud_> chernobylrpgfree: didnt find anything
[11:41] <soundray> Nekomagesdesu: are you entering the correct screen number?
[11:41] <chernobylrpgfree> arooni: try to create a temp file: "touch /tmp/test"
[11:42] <woodyn87> you put the ip address in xxx.xxx.xxx.then type  colon zero  :0
[11:42] <Nekomagesdesu> soundray, I do not know how to enter a screen number with the windows version of tightvnc viewer
[11:42] <arooni> chernobylrpgfree: yes i could do this OK
[11:42] <arooni> chernobylrpgfree: it uscceeded.  whats the next step
[11:42] <micahspoop> Can someone help me with CPU frequency setting
[11:42] <soundray> Nekomagesdesu: hostname:1
[11:42] <chernobylrpgfree> bud_: good luck, you've got an odd one
[11:42] <Nekomagesdesu> soundray, that enters the port number for the windows version
[11:42] <woodyn87> you have to be signed on to the desktop more accurately someone has to be signed on
[11:42] <chernobylrpgfree> arooni: its got to be a problem with mysql then, that's a bit beyond me.
[11:42] <bud_> chernobylrpgfree: yeah, thanks
[11:42] <hector> the repositories for easycam software doesn't work, where can I download it?
[11:43] <Nekomagesdesu> erm nm actually >_>
[11:43] <woodyn87> Nek I don't think so in this case it enters the desktop number
[11:43] <Zerro> and the only "error" i get from the terminal with beryl is: Reloading options beryl: No GLXFBConfig for depth 32
[11:43] <soundray> Nekomagesdesu: try it, it'll work if you get the right one
[11:43] <Nekomagesdesu> woodyn87, soundray nm I that works ^^
[11:43] <Possum> hmmm ... anyone experience problems with blackdown + firefox on amd64?
[11:43] <Nekomagesdesu> now I just get an authentication failed
[11:44] <Turner> Hello -- When I try and run the upgrade it states: Authenticating the upgrade failed ; there may be a problem with the network or server
[11:44] <soundray> Nekomagesdesu: turn off Shiftlock ;)
[11:44] <nicolah> how do I have a md5sum of a cd ?
[11:44] <chernobylrpgfree> arooni: Check the mysql website for that problem perhaps.
[11:44] <woodyn87> At wits end here, installed and mounted a second (slave in windows terms) drive, can see it in file browser but it has "root" as the owner and I can't access any ideas?
[11:44] <mskadu> hello all
[11:44] <adaptr> woodyn87 "slave" is not a windows term, it's an ATAPI one
[11:45] <mskadu> i am helping setting up ubuntu 6.10 on someone's machine
[11:45] <Nekomagesdesu> soundray, caps is off
[11:45] <briank> Hi, I just ran the fedora core 6 live cd, and now after testing it, I want to reboot into my normal ubuntu grub menu, but it says insert system disk, any ideas on how to get things back to normal?!?
[11:45] <adaptr> woodyn87 is there anything on the drive ?
[11:45] <mskadu> but cannot config his wireless to connect with WEP/PSK
[11:45] <woodyn87> No, and it's formatted ext3
[11:45] <soundray> woodyn87: create a directory in it with sudo and change the owner and group to your primary user name.
[11:45] <BarronVon> anyone know how to convert a 64bit hex phrase into a usable WEP passcode?
[11:45] <Nekomagesdesu> woodyn87, sudo chown <user>.<user> /path
[11:45] <chernobylrpgfree> mskadu: what type of network card?
[11:46] <Wiseguy> hey guys, im watching my firewall log in realtime with vuurmuur, im getting massive amounts of udp packets from a HUGE range of IP addresses and on almost every port you cna think of... is this like a ntpd server or osmething running? or what would be running by deafult that would cause this?
[11:46] <woodyn87> by way of gparted
[11:46] <capiira> hmm how can i completely uninstall ubuntu.desktop after installing the kubuntu one ?
[11:46] <Wiseguy> actually i take that back
[11:46] <soundray> briank: you've somehow lost grub. Recover it with the "after Windows..." instructions:
[11:46] <Lars_G> Errr quick question, I seemingly need to install/update python-clearsilver but a file in it collides with it's dependency python2.4-clearsilver (odd if it's a dependency I'd though python-clearsilver would be a meta package) any tips?
[11:46] <yell0w> capiira, sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop
[11:46] <antidrugue> ok, back again
[11:46] <mskadu> chernobylrpgfree: lan-express
[11:47] <soundray> !grub > briank, read ubotu's private message
[11:47] <capiira> nah that removes the meta pseudo package only
[11:47] <Wiseguy> im getting a wide range of ip addresses originating from different ports, but they are all trying to connect to port 29107
[11:47] <Wiseguy> both via tcp and udp
[11:47] <akey> hello
[11:47] <mwe> I think that will just remove the meta package if ubuntu-desktop was not installed using aptitude
[11:47] <chernobylrpgfree> mskadu: what method are you using to configure WEP?
[11:47] <yell0w> capiira, that, and all the pckages it depends on
[11:47] <briank> soundray, thanks!
[11:47] <akey> i cant see youtube vids in firefox, can anybody help me?
[11:47] <Nekomagesdesu> lol
[11:47] <mskadu> well. i dont know a lot, but I am using network-admin
[11:47] <chernobylrpgfree> akey: make sure you have the flash 9 plugin
[11:48] <yell0w> capiira, at least that's what i think that does, did you try it ?
[11:48] <Nekomagesdesu> beryl just crashed vnc viewer XD
[11:48] <mskadu> chernobylrpgfree:  well. i dont know a lot, but I am using network-admin
[11:48] <capiira> yeah
[11:48] <soundray> Lars_G: cd to /var/cache/apt/archives and force the installation with 'dpkg -i --force-overwrite python-clearsilver_*deb
[11:48] <akey> i have it,
[11:48] <chernobylrpgfree> mskadu: that's what i wanted =)  so you type the WEP Key into the box but it doesn't work?
[11:48] <antidrugue> akey: do you have flash installed? "sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree"
[11:48] <yell0w> capiira, that's strange
[11:48] <akey> i have a 64 bit
[11:48] <mskadu> chernobylrpgfree: no
[11:48] <capiira> removed 1 package
[11:48] <capiira> heh
[11:48] <Lars_G> soundray: thanks, that Way I avoid redownload.
[11:48] <mskadu> chernobylrpgfree:  thats how i have config-ed it several times before
[11:48] <akey> so, i cant install it from macromedia
[11:48] <Deinumite> anyway to boot the iso from your HD?
[11:48] <vox754> akey, NO! don't use the 64 bit one, use the 32 bit distro
[11:48] <soundray> Lars_G: use sudo of course
[11:48] <antidrugue> akey: oh,... there is wrapper for flash on 64 bits, don't remember the name
[11:48] <frolle> chowmeined, hey pal, everything is running perfectly :)
[11:49] <Lars_G> soundray: yeah
[11:49] <chowmeined> frolle: excellent, I am glad it is working
[11:49] <mskadu> chernobylrpgfree: i dont know what i am doing wrong
[11:49] <yell0w> capiira, it works on mine
[11:49] <chernobylrpgfree> mskadu: OK, of course the AP is listed as well?
[11:49] <sicker> in mysql configuration you set up a user and a pass to run mysql ?
[11:49] <selinuxium> HI all, I am having problems writing to a NTFS USB HD. It reports as a read only system. Feisty. Any ideas?
[11:49] <antidrugue> akey: but flash is not the last of your trouble if you are on 64 bits, you'll find most things multimedia related troublesome
[11:49] <mskadu> yes
[11:49] <yell0w> capiira, check pm
[11:49] <akey> vox754, should i reinstall the whole ubuntu?
[11:49] <mskadu> chernobylrpgfree: wlist -a shows it to me
[11:49] <capiira> ok
[11:49] <arooni> chernobylrpgfree: thanks a lot!!!!  i asekd folks in mysql and they helped me out!
[11:50] <mwe> sudo apt-get --purge remove libgnome2-0 libgnome2-common will probably get rit of most of it
[11:50] <chernobylrpgfree> mskadu: that's good, it seems like the driver is setup and it works..
[11:50] <SlowLight> dear I would like to kno0w if Ubuntu is capabile to be a server for a 30 computer lan network
[11:50] <sicker> in mysql configuration you set up a user and a pass to run mysql ? somebody can help me ?
[11:50] <soundray> !ntfs-3g > selinuxium, please read ubotu's private message
[11:50] <chernobylrpgfree> arooni: Yay, I did my good deed of the day!  cheers!
[11:50] <ohshitt> I just updated/upgrade update-manager and tzdata, ignoring the 'feisty fawn available' message and now i do not get the 7.04 upgrade available anymore? anyone get that
[11:50] <vox754> !flash64 | akey, it is easier than battling but
[11:50] <ubotu> akey, it is easier than battling but: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[11:50] <mskadu> chernobylrpgfree: that wifi card has been in use for a long time
[11:50] <soundray> SlowLight: sure
[11:50] <DoctorOwl> I have XP on hda.  I have a free disk on hdc.  I installed ubuntu onto hdc, but when it rebooted grub said stage 1.5 error 16 and hangs.  So I booted from my xp cd to do fixmbr and now I can boot into windows fine.  The question is, how do I make things so I can boot into ubuntu now?
[11:50] <frolle> chowmeined, for the moment i am trying to find a solution for my nzb files
[11:50] <chernobylrpgfree> mskadu: It sounds like you might have the wrong WEP key (sounds kinda dumb, but it's possible)?
[11:50] <mskadu> chernobylrpgfree: but the person changed the router and the new one was config-ed for WEP/PSK
[11:50] <fiction> is there a way to alter the taskbar looks? besides transparancy and all
[11:50] <akey> i dont take you
[11:51] <chowmeined> frolle: those newsgroup files?
[11:51] <coal> okay i'm finally  back
[11:51] <jrib> !themes > fiction (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:51] <haru> can someone help me .. i am getting no sound with xine.. since i uninstalled gstreamer engine
[11:51] <mskadu> chernobylrpgfree: that was the first thing i thought as well. But the same key works when i reboot into win-xp
[11:51] <coal> I downloaded my driver
[11:51] <coal> what now?
[11:51] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: ok, did you find the SYS file inside the driver?
[11:51] <cables> Is there a script that is run when I suspend the machine? If so, where can I find it?
[11:51] <fiction> jrib: but just the taskbar
[11:51] <micahspoop> will setting my cpu frequency help battery life on my laptop?
[11:51] <jrib> fiction: what do you want to do with it?
[11:51] <chernobylrpgfree> mskadu: OK, well that's ruled out.  The next step is troublesome; does it work when you turn off WEP?
[11:51] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: It should be named BCMWL5.SYS or BCMWL5A.SYS
[11:51] <jrib> cables: maybe /etc/acpi/ somewhere, but just a guess
[11:51] <chowmeined> frolle: If you want something to download those, check out klibido
[11:52] <frolle> chowmeined, yeah, i used to use hellanzb, which is an amazing grabber, but the new version is quite unstable..
[11:52] <antidrugue> coal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[11:52] <coal> should I run it?
[11:52] <fiction> jrib: make it look more stylish. like kde in a way
[11:52] <coal> the driver?
[11:52] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: get that SYS file on to your USB stick
[11:52] <coal> on the computer I'm on now
[11:52] <chowmeined> frolle: except it loads KDE junk :(
[11:52] <mskadu> chernobylrpgfree: i cant try that as it is a shared router
[11:52] <Ace2016> Hi all
[11:52] <Ace2016> Anyone here have a mouse with a ball as the scroll wheel? i've got an Acrox Mini 8D Scroll Ball Optical Mouse and when i try to scroll left and right it scrolls up and down, in windows there is an option to make it scroll left/right when you rotate the ball letft and right
[11:52] <jrib> fiction: you would have to use a theme afaik
[11:52] <frolle> chowmeined, i kinda need web remote :)
[11:52] <coal> how do I get to the exe file?
[11:52] <chernobylrpgfree> mskadu: I was afraid of that... hang on then.
[11:52] <antidrugue> coal: everything is in there: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[11:52] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: you downloaded a ZIP?  or an EXE?
[11:52] <coal> an EXE
[11:52] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: read what antidrugue said, it's all there
[11:52] <soundray> cables: /etc/acpi/sleep.sh
[11:52] <nihil_> hi there ;) anyone can suggest me a cool linux single player fpp game ? :>
[11:53] <coal> going there now
[11:53] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: run the EXE and it should extract the driver then.
[11:53] <chernobylrpgfree> antidrugue: thanks man =)
[11:53] <haru> can someone help me .. i am getting no sound with xine.. since i uninstalled gstreamer engine
[11:53] <nihil_> hi there ;) anyone can suggest me a cool linux single player fpp game ? :>
[11:53] <antidrugue> chernobylrpgfree: no problem... but thanks for what? :)
[11:53] <chowmeined> frolle: I just installed beryl, its so nice
[11:53] <cotton> Can someone take a look in my server and tell me why my php/apache isn't working>
[11:53] <mskadu> chernobylrpgfree: i tried rtfm, and came across iwconfig
[11:53] <soundray> nihil_: planetpenguin-racer
[11:53] <chernobylrpgfree> antidrugue: so busy looking up other things, didn't think to look that up for him :P
[11:53] <frolle> chowmeined, do you think my old nvidia TNT2 card can run beryl? ;)
[11:54] <antidrugue> ok :)
[11:54] <mwe> you can unzip some exe files
[11:54] <micahspoop> nihil_: nexuiz
[11:54] <nihil_> soundray, fpp ;) i've got racer
[11:54] <chowmeined> frolle: hmm, i dont know about that
[11:54] <chowmeined> frolle: you could try but..
[11:54] <antidrugue> cotton: hum... keep your server for yourself, don't let anyone in there
[11:54] <soundray> nihil_: sorry, that was just a reflex, I don't know what fpp is
[11:54] <mskadu> chernobylrpgfree: i tried wlassistant as well
[11:54] <kylecasey> anyone using dvd shrink?and know this means?>> (iodump.c) unable to open directory "/dev/dvd"
[11:54] <chowmeined> frolle: I had trouble getting it to work well on my geforce 3
[11:54] <antidrugue> cotton: certainly not one of us :)
[11:54] <cotton> antidrugue, Why?
[11:54] <nihil_> soundray, first person perspective
[11:54] <woodyn87> Installed and mounted a second (slave in windows terms) drive, can see it in file browser but it has "root" as the owner and I can't access any ideas?
[11:54] <kane77> nihil_, what is fpp?
[11:54] <mwe> kylecasey: /dev/dvd is not present? or you don't have permission maybe
[11:55] <monkey_instinct> my webcam is recognize in the device manager as usb 2.0 camera but is not working with any webcam viewer, any ideas?
[11:55] <kane77> nihil_, got that
[11:55] <antidrugue> cotton: i don't know, i just know i wouldn't trust you with my server, in fact i wouldn't trust anyone
[11:55] <Possum> Is the only way to get java working on amd64 to install 32-bit fx?
[11:55] <coal> i found a bunch of .SYS files
[11:55] <chernobylrpgfree> mskadu: you've kind of stumped me... if iwlist shows your AP then everything is pretty much go...
[11:55] <coal> which am I looking for?
[11:55] <kylecasey> mwe i have two drives and theyre both there
[11:55] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: you want the one for XP most likely.
[11:55] <mskadu> chernobylrpgfree: yes, thats why the person finally came to me
[11:55] <frolle> chowmeined: well... my gfx is so old
[11:55] <mwe> kylecasey: /dev/dvd exists?
[11:55] <cotton> antidrugue: when I click something in the file browser, it doesn't do anything
[11:55] <coal> i found a folder called WINXP
[11:55] <kane77> nihil_, i'd say tremulous, enemy territory, true combat elite
[11:55] <mwe> kylecasey: ls /dev/dvd confirms that?
[11:55] <mskadu> chernobylrpgfree: maybe there's one thing that can help
[11:55] <coal> two SYS files
[11:55] <antidrugue> cotton: what do you mean ?
[11:55] <cables> If anyone answered my question before about a suspend script, I didn't get it because my computer crashed. Could you re-send it?
[11:55] <mskadu> when i tried using wlassist
[11:55] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: what are they
[11:55] <soundray> !webcam > monkey_instinct, there are some instructions on the wiki, read ubotu's private message please
[11:56] <chernobylrpgfree> mksadu: go on
[11:56] <coal> LSPMUSB,.SYS
[11:56] <antidrugue> coal: yes .sys file, like mentioned in the tutorial
[11:56] <soundray> cables: /etc/acpi/sleep.sh
[11:56] <mskadu> i get an error
[11:56] <coal> PRISMUSB.SYS
[11:56] <cables> soundray, thanks
[11:56] <alcane> what's the command to kill xserver?
[11:56] <kylecasey> as far as i know yes mwe i checked with dvd rip and it showed one of my drives as dev/dvd and the other as dvd/dvc
[11:56] <Tom_g> hi all, anyone know if its possible to use the gecko rendering engine inside konqueror?
[11:56] <JZA> hi anyone know how to rsync but limit to just the present level (no sub-folders)
[11:56] <mskadu> Apr 18 19:37:55 localhost dhclient: wifi0: unknown hardware address type 801
[11:56] <mskadu> Apr 18 19:37:55 localhost dhclient: wifi0: unknown hardware address type 801
[11:56] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: nope, those aren't it, or thats the wrong driver... it's always BCMWL5(A)
[11:56] <tanq> I'm using the  7.04 Desktop Edition and I have a DVB card that appears to be recognized when i look at dmesg, but i dont see a /dev/dvb/adapter0/
[11:56] <soundray> alcane: 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop'
[11:56] <soundray> Tom_g: you must be joking
[11:56] <tanq> i also don't see the firmware upload stuff that you normally see
[11:56] <mskadu> chernobylrpgfree: in his syslog
[11:56] <coal> i'm pretty sure I got the right dirver
[11:56] <safrus> anyone that can help me with resolution problem?
[11:57] <antidrugue> coal: chernobylrpgfree is right, wrong one it seems
[11:57] <alcane> soundray: thx!
[11:57] <chernobylrpgfree> mskadu: that's the real symptom then...
[11:57] <mwe> kylecasey: huh. are you sure it's not hdc and hdd?
[11:57] <antidrugue> coal: what is your exact card model ?
[11:57] <Tom_g> soundray: i heard of a project called kecko, but cant find much info on it....
[11:57] <chernobylrpgfree> mskadu: tried googling that error?
[11:57] <mwe> kylecasey: dvc and dvd sounds odd
[11:57] <shido> does anybody know why the bakground of the text area of the icons in my system is in white since i upgraded to edgy? used to...it was transparent... look: http://leo.astrobit.org/linux/icons.png
[11:57] <mskadu> chernobylrpgfree: i thought so
[11:57] <J^son> just installed a ubuntu on a computer... have another unning windows. I am trying to set up the network to allow me to print from windows to the printer directly connected to the Ubuntu box.. Can someone help?
[11:57] <coal> gimme a second
[11:57] <mskadu> chernobylrpgfree: not really. will do that now
[11:57] <chernobylrpgfree> mskadu: gl, let me know - i am interested in the resolution
[11:57] <monkey_instinct> i tried to download easycam but the repository doen't seems to work, there's any other source where i could find it?
[11:57] <coal> Linksys Wireless - B USB Network Adapter, Model Number is WUSB11
[11:57] <mwe> kylecasey: maybe you can configure the program to use the correct device
[11:58] <kylecasey> mwe i tried that but it craps out when i try to burn a dvd
[11:58] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: It's really a USB external adapter?
[11:58] <Tom_g> soundray: you ever heard anything about it?
[11:58] <coal> yup
[11:58] <cotton> antidrugue: YOu know when you don't have a index file, you get that screen showing all the files/folders? Well, on my server, if I were to click one of those files, nothing would happen, the IRL would change accordingly, but the page will remain the same
[11:58] <coal> we had to get that specific
[11:58] <PurpZeY> How do I install Java and Flash into FireFox?
[11:58] <coal> one
[11:58] <mwe> kylecasey: how does it crap out?
[11:58] <The-Loko> Hi all ppl
[11:58] <coal> because mine has very few specific ports on it
[11:58] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: OK.  Hold a second.
[11:58] <antidrugue> coal:: so perhaps you ahve the right one
[11:58] <mskadu> chernobylrpgfree: i have one doubt
[11:58] <The-Loko> This OS is AWESOME!
[11:58] <soundray> Tom_g: no, but there was a German new wave band with a similar name 25 years ago ;)
[11:58] <Furthur> lol
[11:58] <vox754> !flash
[11:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:59] <antidrugue> purpzey: "sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin"
[11:59] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[11:59] <chainlynx> prurpzey: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:59] <monkey_instinct> PurpZey: http://ubuntuguide.org
[11:59] <vox754> !java
[11:59] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[11:59] <kylecasey> fails when it says put in blank dvd and hit burn
[11:59] <chernobylrpgfree> mskadu: what's that?
[11:59] <kylecasey> mwe
[11:59] <coal> I usually have to get stuff that's specifically for the USB port, keyboard, mouse, monitor, etc
[11:59] <woodyn87> ^son: In System-Administration Printing then select the printer and there is an option to share it.
[11:59] <weltschmerz> here's a question.  after upgrading to feisty, my cards are detected in the opposite order.  so i changed all instances of card 0 to "card 1" in /etc/asound.conf. Now how do I restart alsa?
[11:59] <mskadu> chernobylrpgfree: if the interface in use if ath0, where does wifi0 come into picture?
[11:59] <rainwalker> If I want to include the (hidden) "dot-whatever" folders/files when I tar my home directory, what to I add to this command: tar cfvp home.tar --exclude=[the stuff I want to exclude]  *
[11:59] <mwe> kylecasey: it doesn't give you an error? if yes, what?
[11:59] <soundray> weltschmerz: where did you find your music in the end?
[11:59] <chernobylrpgfree> mskadu: I thought wifi0 might be the driver in that case.  Check /etc/network/interfaces for an ath0 and a wifi0 entries.
[12:00] <Possum> does automatix install 32-bit fx + flash/java on amd64?
[12:00] <Tom_g> soundray: lol, strange coincidence! anyway i love konqueror but it just cant handle some websites, need an alternative, but without dumping it alltogether
[12:00] <chernobylrpgfree> coal: I am looking at compatibility for that adapter with the driver.
[12:00] <antidrugue> coal: which version is it ? 1.0.... 4.0 ?
[12:00] <zani> hi all, is there a way to download a ubuntu repos from a windows machine only getting arch i386?
[12:00] <coal> lemme look
[12:00] <viktor___> my laptop cooler doesnt working in ubuntu feisty, in open suse 10.2 adding boot command acpi=on resovles the problem but in feisty no, anybody can help
[12:00] <mskadu> chernobylrpgfree: i dont have a wifi0 entry in there
[12:00] <mwe> !automatix
[12:00] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a proprietary script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[12:00] <DoctorOwl> I have XP on hda and a free disk on hdc.  When I install ubuntu onto hdc on the reboot grub says stage 1.5 error 16 and hangs.  I can booted from my xp cd to do fixmbr and then boot into windows fine.  But how do I make things so I can boot into ubuntu / select between the two?
[12:00] <mskadu> chernobylrpgfree: should i ?
[12:00] <weltschmerz> soundray it actually was in /usr/share/AUDIO but somehow the backup /backup/AUDIO was just ...gone.
[12:00] <coal> um
[12:00] <soundray> Tom_g: you could run firefox in a vncserver and use konqueror to connect to that screen
[12:00] <coal> i can't find it on the box
[12:01] <kylecasey> mwe i have the error from the log file here but i dont know where pastebin is
[12:01] <chernobylrpgfree> mskadu: nope.  But that means wifi0 probably was the driver?


[03:25] <magespawn> good morning
[04:35] <Kilos> morning everyone
[05:36] <Kilos> hi Cryterion
[05:43] <Cryterion> morning
[07:21] <chesedo> morning Kilos Cryterion and all others
[07:22] <Kilos> hi chesedo
[07:22] <Kilos> hi thatgraemeguy inetpro anton_may
[07:33] <Kilos> i logged in early today to help make up for yesterday
[07:39] <magespawn> good morning
[07:48] <unlaudable> Kilos, :D
[07:48] <unlaudable> morning
[07:49] <Kilos> hi unlaudable
[07:52] <Kilos> something for uncapped peeps to look at
[07:52] <Kilos> https://mattermost.popey.com/signup_user_complete/?id=1qpn9houn7r4mc5xc6ho9wt7se
[07:52] <Kilos> kinda hangout thing i think
[07:57] <unlaudable> popey is an ubuntu guy I think... the Ubuntu Mate guy? mattermost is chat thing like Slack
[08:01] <magespawn> hi Kilos unlaudable
[08:04] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[08:04] <Kilos> yes popey does lotsa buntu work
[08:04] <magespawn> yet another way to communicate
[08:05] <Kilos> they want to have chat sessions where they can share all experiences and ideas
[08:07] <Kilos> so they are testing out different avenues
[08:08] <inetpro> good morning to everyone, oh and Kilos as well
[08:08]  * Kilos smiles
[08:21] <inetpro> Kilos: oh I like that!
[08:22] <Kilos> the popey thing?
[08:22] <inetpro> no, mattermost
[08:22] <Kilos> i go see
[08:22] <inetpro> an open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative
[08:23]  * inetpro has to check it out later
[08:23] <Kilos> some must join popeys one to show it can work
[08:23] <inetpro> superfly: di you see that ^^ ?
[08:24] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[08:24]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[08:24] <inetpro> glad to see he can still wash the mugs
[08:24] <Kilos> Maaz coffee please
[08:24] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure
[08:24] <chesedo> Kilos: you know where we can get more info on it before signing up?
[08:25] <chesedo> Maaz: coffee please
[08:25] <Maaz> chesedo: Okay
[08:25] <inetpro> chesedo: http://www.mattermost.org/
[08:25] <chesedo> Maaz: with rusk
[08:25] <Maaz> chesedo: Excuse me?
[08:25] <chesedo> ty inetpro
[08:25] <Kilos> Maaz with cremora
[08:25] <Maaz> Ah! At last someone with taste
[08:25] <Kilos> Maaz and milk
[08:25] <Maaz> Now you're talking
[08:25] <Kilos> Maaz rusks please
[08:25] <Maaz> behind the calender on top of the fridge, but dont tell everyone Kilos
[08:26] <inetpro> YC-funded nogal
[08:26] <Kilos> whats YC
[08:26] <inetpro> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_Combinator_%28company%29
[08:26] <anton_may> mornings
[08:27] <inetpro> apparently "the world's most powerful start-up incubator"
[08:28] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro, Kilos and chesedo!
[08:28] <inetpro> Maaz: dankie
[08:28] <Maaz> Groot plesier inetpro my vriend
[08:28] <Kilos> Maaz thanks man
[08:28] <Maaz> Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)
[08:29] <Kilos> join popey man it for testing purposes
[08:29] <chesedo> Maaz: ty
[08:29] <Maaz> You are welcome chesedo
[08:30] <inetpro> Kilos: have you joined?
[08:31] <Kilos>  busy trying to figure a username with numbers and other characters that i wont forget
[08:31] <magespawn> inetpro it might be an idea to set one up
[08:32] <inetpro> magespawn: we need proper stable resources
[08:32] <inetpro> something that can last a lifetime
[08:33] <magespawn> indeed, i was thinking of getting myself a vps, there is one i found for R99, limited to 400GB of traffic per month
[08:34] <magespawn> don't know if it will last a lifetime though
[08:36] <Kilos> sjoe thats a serious kinda user name required
[08:39] <Kilos> how can one remember all that and the symbols
[08:39] <Kilos> sigh
[08:40] <Kilos> for testing only it should be easier
[08:40] <chesedo> Kilos: doesn't kde have an eWallet?
[08:41] <Kilos> kwallet
[08:41] <Kilos> i think i have it turned off, it drove me nuts some time back
[08:41] <chesedo> yea, same thing
[08:42] <Kilos> wb superfly
[08:45] <Kilos> thats hard work
[08:45] <chesedo> Kilos: you there yet?
[08:45]  * chesedo does not see you
[08:46] <Kilos> nope it keeps giving me that message of what to use
[08:46] <chesedo> reload page and just try kilos
[08:46] <Kilos> ok
[08:46] <chesedo> got through with my nick only
[08:49] <Kilos> ya that worked
[08:49] <Kilos> you see me now?
[08:50] <thatgraemeguy> http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-and-canonical-partner-to-bring-ubuntu-to-windows-10/
[08:50] <thatgraemeguy> feels like I'm in some weird alternate reality
[08:51] <chesedo> thatgraemeguy: this outlines it better for me - http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/03/ubuntu-on-windows.html?utm_source=omgubuntu
[08:51] <chesedo> Kilos: yes... replied
[08:51] <Kilos> isnt that flashing thing on the right of the write message block eating data
[08:52] <chesedo> lol, do not think so (it would be a scripts doing that)
[08:52] <Kilos> or so just text then same as here?
[08:53] <chesedo> kind of... notice how the entire history is there and you were not logged in
[08:53] <thatgraemeguy> thanks chesedo, interesting stuff
[08:53] <chesedo> yw thatgraemeguy
[08:54] <Kilos> yes
[08:57] <chesedo> Kilos: seems like one can comment and reply on messages too
[08:57] <Kilos> yes
[08:57] <Kilos> quite snazzy
[08:57] <chesedo> and has markdown support (yiipppee)
[08:58] <Kilos> whatever that might be
[08:59] <chesedo> ooo, and you can link to a specific mesage somehow
[08:59] <Kilos> haha
[08:59] <Kilos> i havent heard any sound alerts
[09:01] <Kilos> ah i found the help page
[09:09] <chesedo> Kilos: that flashing thing is also a quick guide helper
[09:10] <Kilos> ah i turned it off
[09:10] <Kilos> let me know when you find the audio alerts
[09:10] <chesedo> in settings it states to configure it in browser
[09:11] <Kilos> haha i cant find setting
[09:11] <Kilos> s
[09:11] <chesedo> three dots, top left
[09:13] <Kilos> sjoe
[09:45] <mazal> Hi
[09:45] <Kilos> hi mazal
[09:53] <magespawn> chesedo: thanks for that link
[09:53] <magespawn> still makes me wonder why though? and raises so many questions
[09:55] <chesedo> yw magespawn
[10:58] <Kilos> hi Guest81407
[11:01] <Kilos> i go have lunch
[11:02] <Kilos> inetpro i see your posts in popups but they not showing in that new thing so i gotta see what im doing wrong
[13:45] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:01] <thatgraemeguy> yay
[14:01] <thatgraemeguy> 16.04 upgrade done
[14:01] <thatgraemeguy> all my fonts look nicer
[14:05] <magespawn> home time chat later all
[15:07] <inetpro> well done thatgraemeguy
[15:08] <inetpro> anyone done any server upgrades to 16.04 yet?
[16:28] <thatgraemeguy> inetpro: no way, servers can wait until the first point release at least
[16:51] <pavlushka-> o/ all
[16:54] <pavlushka-> Facing huge packet loss, talked to my local reseller, now logged in through android.
[16:54] <Cryterion> hmm, getting tired of this irc client, grrr
[16:54] <Cryterion> hi everyone
[16:55] <Kilos> hi Cryterion
[16:55] <Cryterion> heya Kilos, pavlushka
[16:55] <Cryterion> how you feeling today Kilos
[16:55] <Kilos> not bad ty Cryterion and you?
[16:56] <pavlushka-> Heya Cryterion!!
[16:56] <Cryterion> all gud, just tired, been a long day
[16:57]  * Cryterion waits for the mosquito's to find him
[16:57] <pavlushka-> Lol
[16:58] <Cryterion> miggies atm, grrr, they get stuck in your hair
[16:59] <Kilos> terrible things
[16:59] <Kilos> i go eat
[16:59] <Cryterion> problem is it's too hot and humid to close the door, and the light attracts them
[16:59] <pavlushka-> What miggies?
[16:59] <Cryterion> oh kwl
[17:00] <Cryterion> miggies are tiny little bugs
[17:00] <Cryterion> that fly
[17:00] <Cryterion> about 1mm wide and 2mm long
[17:00] <pavlushka-> Actually I asked Kilos what he will eat? Kidding.
[17:00] <Cryterion> then you get the longer 5mm ones
[17:01] <Cryterion> He'll need a few thousand of them, I'm I could collect enough tonight!
[17:01] <pavlushka-> Cryterion,  lucky you.
[17:02] <Cryterion> What packet loses were you expriencing earlier
[17:04] <pavlushka-> Experiencing now, that's why using android phone and the nick is pavlushka- now bcoz of that.
[17:05] <Cryterion> which network given the problems
[17:06] <pavlushka-> I m in the most remote place from our capital and the ISP is at the capital. I m connected through a  reseller.
[17:07] <Cryterion> You're in Germany
[17:07] <pavlushka-> Its 500 km away
[17:07] <Cryterion> whois reports Germany
[17:08] <pavlushka-> Our capital is Dhaka, Bangladesh
[17:09] <pavlushka-> I wish i could be in Germany!!! :((
[17:09] <Cryterion> ah, are any of Seacom cables down, I'll check, but that normally affect all networks together
[17:10] <pavlushka-> Not sure, may be.
[17:10] <Cryterion> lol, looking at what happening there, although my roots come from there, I wouldn't want to go now
[17:11] <Cryterion> I'd rather take my chances here in SA
[17:11] <pavlushka-> I am talking about just for travelling
[17:12] <pavlushka-> I love my country enough not to leave permanently
[17:13] <Cryterion> ah, I wanted to awhile ago, but the political situation in most of the EU is becoming a major problem
[17:14] <pavlushka-> No offence, Cryterion,  no way i was pointing you.
[17:14] <Cryterion> No Prob :), never took it that ay
[17:14] <Cryterion> way*
[17:14] <pavlushka-> I was just talking about my choice.
[17:15] <pavlushka-> That's good,
[17:16] <Cryterion> You'll welcome to go as a tourist, nothing wrong with that, just check with ISIS where, when, and what they'll blow up!
[17:16] <pavlushka-> In irc, the great thing what happened to me is Kilos.
[17:16] <pavlushka-> Yeah, lol
[17:16] <Cryterion> He's a great guy
[17:17] <Cryterion> Very helpfull, and if he can't help, he'll find someone that can help
[17:17] <Cryterion> Out of curiosity, what sort of work do you do?
[17:20] <Kilos> lemme catch up
[17:20] <pavlushka-> We own a small tea farm, i look after that very badly.
[17:22] <pavlushka-> I am a math graduate, so I am good at calculating the profit but not farming.
[17:22] <Kilos> ai!
[17:22] <Kilos> dont skinner bout me
[17:22] <pavlushka-> So at the end i had to calculate the loss.
[17:22] <Cryterion> hmm, growing things can be difficult, must talk to those plants
[17:23] <Cryterion> but you must have some good people working for you?
[17:23] <Cryterion> Kilos : skinner?
[17:24] <Kilos> use my name in vain
[17:24] <Cryterion> where, was all positve!
[17:24] <Cryterion> positive*
[17:24] <Kilos> ja thats embarrasing
[17:25] <Kilos> i get shy because i did nothing
[17:25] <Cryterion> We all Love you Kilos, get over it ;)
[17:25] <Kilos> sjoe
[17:27] <pavlushka-> Kilos, bad!!  talking native, i dont understand any.
[17:27] <Cryterion> what irc client do you all use?
[17:28] <Kilos> konversation
[17:28] <Kilos> you on unity can use hexchat
[17:28] <pavlushka-> Its hexchat for me
[17:28] <Kilos> the serious kde guys use quassel
[17:28] <pavlushka-> Now androidirc
[17:29] <Kilos> i spose you could too Cryterion
[17:29] <Cryterion> xchat atm, think I've used hexchat before, works better than xchat in my opinion
[17:29] <Kilos> then you can bounce with it
[17:29] <Cryterion> andchat on phone, but for desktop looking at a ne one
[17:29] <Kilos> pavlushka- i had pap and boerewors for supper and salad
[17:30] <Kilos> hehe
[17:30] <Cryterion> nice
[17:30] <Cryterion> braai'd?
[17:30] <Kilos> nope pan done
[17:30] <pavlushka-> Gr8
[17:30] <Cryterion> grrr, doesn't taste the same
[17:31] <Kilos> pavlushka- how can you say great when thats native food
[17:31] <Kilos> i dont know if you guys have an equivalent for pap
[17:31] <Kilos> it i s made from ground up maize
[17:31] <Cryterion> Kilos it's a std delicacy here
[17:32] <Kilos> boerewors is a south african sausage
[17:32] <Kilos> pavlushka- did you read your email
[17:33] <pavlushka-> Yep, i was gonna ask
[17:33] <Kilos> beat you
[17:33] <pavlushka-> And i guessed boerewors is non veg
[17:34] <pavlushka-> Ya, bit clumsy with the tiny phone
[17:34] <Kilos> mince and spices and fat put into an intestine
[17:34] <Kilos> fat sausage as long as you like
[17:34] <Cryterion> it's a long sausage, the ingredients are what make it what it is
[17:35] <Kilos> one day when you are rich pavlushka- import some or come taste it here
[17:36] <Kilos> done over coals is the best way but takes time and more effort
[17:37] <Kilos> Cryterion that new chat thing is quite cool hey
[17:37] <Cryterion> Just send a recipe Kilos
[17:37] <Kilos> superfly you have seen it
[17:37] <Cryterion> which chat thing?
[17:37] <pavlushka-> Sure, i would love to
[17:37] <Kilos> oh my
[17:37] <Kilos> was chesedo
[17:37] <Kilos> i get link
[17:38] <Cryterion> ok, been out all day, so prob missed
[17:38] <Kilos> https://mattermost.popey.com/signup_user_complete/?id=1qpn9houn7r4mc5xc6ho9wt7se
[17:38] <inetpro> thatgraemeguy: I like your reasoning
[17:38] <Cryterion> oh, got the email, never got to look yet
[17:39] <pavlushka-> I failed bcoz of my bad connection.
[17:39] <Kilos> pavlushka- you will have to import the packet of herbs and spices
[17:39] <chesedo> what ever it is, i didn't do it :P
[17:39] <inetpro> good evening everyone
[17:39] <Kilos> hi inetpro
[17:39] <Cryterion> is thatgraemeguy even around inetpro?
[17:39] <chesedo> hi inetpro
[17:39] <Cryterion> he's away
[17:39] <Cryterion> and hi guys
[17:39] <Kilos> no afk at night
[17:39] <pavlushka-> Good evening inetpro
[17:40] <Cryterion> he upgraded to 16.10 today
[17:40] <pavlushka-> Lol
[17:40] <chesedo> Cryterion: did he use a time machine?
[17:40] <chesedo> :P
[17:40] <Kilos> 16.04
[17:40] <pavlushka-> Might be
[17:41] <Cryterion> don't know, but he's in an isp, commented on font differences, maybe got the number wrong lol 16.04
[17:41] <Cryterion> ;)
[17:42] <inetpro> haha
[17:43] <Kilos> inetpro winter is here at night and mornings hey
[17:43] <Kilos> time for serious leathers
[17:43] <Cryterion> on it's way, but we didn't really have one last year
[17:43] <inetpro> talking about font
[17:43]  * inetpro setting default fixed font to Hack
[17:43] <Kilos> oh have those beetles moved on now
[17:43] <Cryterion> Well us on the east coast didn't
[17:44] <inetpro> Kilos: no man, it was only cold on Sunday and Monday evening
[17:44] <Kilos> hahahaha
[17:44] <Kilos> i get cold in gthe morning opening gates
[17:44]  * inetpro should look out for the beetles again
[17:44] <Kilos> and feeding fowls
[17:45]  * Cryterion chases more bugs away
[17:45] <Kilos> they most be gone and left behind eggs for next year
[17:45] <Kilos> Cryterion where are the canles
[17:46] <Kilos> um
[17:46] <Kilos> citronella
[17:46] <inetpro> superfly: the Hack font is awesome
[17:47] <Kilos> he is giving us the cold shoulder again
[17:48] <inetpro> Kilos: why?
[17:49] <Kilos> most likely busy
[17:49] <Kilos> loh
[17:49] <inetpro> obviously
[17:49] <Kilos> its too early man
[17:49] <Kilos> for you as well
[17:49] <Kilos> 40 mins early
[17:49] <Kilos> family time
[17:49] <inetpro> right
[17:49] <pavlushka> Sure, goodnight guys
[17:50] <Kilos> night then pavlushka sleep well
[17:50] <inetpro> pavlushka: sleeping already?
[17:50] <Kilos> sort your isp tomorrow
[17:50] <inetpro> good night pavlushka
[17:50] <Kilos> ya they weaker there inetpro  no pap
[17:50] <pavlushka> Its 11.50 pm here
[17:51] <Kilos> or boeries
[17:51] <inetpro> where's that?
[17:51] <Kilos> go sleep man you night owl
[17:51] <Kilos> bangalory ville
[17:51] <inetpro> what's that, India?
[17:52] <Kilos> bangladesh
[17:52] <inetpro> ahh
[17:56] <Cryterion> inetpro bangladesh is a country of it own
[17:56] <inetpro> Cryterion: I know
[17:57]  * inetpro had no idea where bangalory ville was
[17:57] <Kilos> lol
[17:57] <Kilos> i tease them
[17:57] <Kilos> strange i still make friends
[17:58] <inetpro> Kilos: I thought so, but I assumed you meant Bangalore with that :-)
[17:59] <Kilos> where is bangalore
[17:59] <inetpro> India
[17:59] <Kilos> oh
[17:59] <inetpro> the capital of India's southern Karnataka state
[17:59] <Kilos> thats the next mission
[17:59] <Kilos> trying to wake up india locos
[18:00] <Kilos> and you and fly caused all my overloaded work schedule
[18:01]  * inetpro reading about how a high school replaced IRC with Mattermost
[18:01] <inetpro> https://opensource.com/education/16/3/mattermost-open-source-chat
[18:01] <Kilos> mattermost is quite cool
[18:01] <Kilos> but ill rather close that down than irc
[18:02] <Kilos> spose im old fashioned
[18:02] <Kilos> Cryterion did you look at mattermost yet
[18:02] <inetpro> see, that's why we need them to build the thing with federation and integration in mind
[18:02] <Kilos> before the bugs carry you away
[18:02] <Kilos> tell me inetpro
[18:03] <Kilos> can one run it locally or is it hosted somewhere else
[18:03] <Cryterion> Kilos I just filled in signup info
[18:03] <inetpro> Kilos: locally would be possible but really doff
[18:04] <Kilos> was a major job that trying the username the way they advise
[18:04] <inetpro> unless you have an internal network with many people
[18:04] <Kilos> we just use our nicks
[18:04] <inetpro> Kilos: I have no idea what you're talking about
[18:04] <Kilos> is the hosting free
[18:04] <Kilos> that was for Cryterion man
[18:04] <Kilos> keep up
[18:04]  * inetpro just filled in email address, username and password
[18:04]  * Kilos ducks
[18:05] <inetpro> ai!
[18:05] <Kilos> i tried the username the the way the popup windows says
[18:05] <Kilos> where
[18:05] <Kilos> whew
[18:05] <inetpro> Kilos: you understand how IRC works?
[18:05] <Kilos> no i just use it
[18:05] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:05] <Kilos> with servers all over yes
[18:10] <Kilos> haha
[18:12] <superfly> inetpro: yes. yes it is. Noto is as well. Kubuntu moved away from Ubuntu to Noto. I'm in font heaven.
[18:12] <Trixar_za> Wait
[18:12] <Trixar_za> What is Mattermost
[18:12] <Trixar_za> Oh and hai
[18:12] <Kilos> go see Trixar_za
[18:12] <inetpro> Kilos: did you look at my link?
[18:13] <inetpro> http://www.isode.com/whitepapers/interconnecting-xmpp-and-irc.html
[18:13] <Kilos> looking now
[18:13] <inetpro> Trixar_za: https://mattermost.popey.com/
[18:15] <inetpro> Trixar_za: or http://www.mattermost.org/ for the real thing
[18:15] <Kilos> is it xmpp inetpro
[18:15] <inetpro> Kilos: no
[18:15] <Kilos> so why then
[18:16] <Kilos> why xmpp irc stuff
[18:16]  * Cryterion starts eating dinner :)
[18:16] <inetpro> I said that is the type of interconnection that we need with mattermost and irc
[18:16] <Kilos> enjoy
[18:16] <Kilos> eat slow
[18:16] <Trixar_za> So it's like IRC with Jabber features and an client advancement?
[18:16] <Kilos> savour every mouthful
[18:16] <inetpro> Trixar_za: it's like slack
[18:16] <inetpro> an open source, self-hosted Slack-alternative
[18:17] <Trixar_za> https://github.com/erming/shout
[18:17] <Trixar_za> ^
[18:20] <inetpro> Trixar_za: have you never used slack?
[18:20] <inetpro> mattermost.popey.com is running on a 512MB digital ocean droplet
[18:21] <superfly> If instructions ever tell you to "sudo npm -g ..." run for your life. That's a terrible way to install something that's not part of your package manager.
[18:21] <Kilos> what did you break superfly
[18:22] <Cryterion> rather add the package repository
[18:22] <superfly> Kilos: nothing, because I never do that.
[18:22] <Kilos> ah
[18:22] <superfly> Kilos: but other people do... <Trixar_za> https://github.com/erming/shout
[18:22] <Trixar_za> Point is - IRC can be made to have similiar features. That can support emoticons, embedded pictures and video (from links), pretty much everything that makes mattermost so special.
[18:22] <Trixar_za> Well, the clients for it anyway
[18:23] <superfly> Cryterion: or, create a non-priviledged user and install it in the user account, and then create init scripts or systemd thingies
[18:23] <superfly> Trixar_za: totally, and I agree with you :-) I'm also not really into slack or mattermost
[18:23] <inetpro> superfly: what's that, Node.js stuff?
[18:24] <superfly> inetpro: yes, sortof
[18:24] <inetpro> Trixar_za: I agree, but IRC does not appeal to many people... not sure why
[18:25] <Cryterion> if you don't trust the source, yes agree there superfly, some when you do trust, add repository only then
[18:25] <inetpro> having said that, perhaps I should look into that link of yours above
[18:26] <Trixar_za> The learning curve probably. But clients can be made to simplify it. I remember this one site from when I was a teen, teenchat, that I'm pretty sure used IRC as a backend. The site just simplified the process of joining and creating channels
[18:26] <Cryterion> just a java or html5 client in a browser now
[18:27] <Trixar_za> Still, I'm pretty sure IRC will always survive somehow. It's too stubborn not to survive
[18:28] <Cryterion> The network will always be there, clients will come and go
[18:28] <Kilos> i love irc
[18:29] <Kilos> and that new thing aint got audio alerts
[18:30] <Kilos> and my konversation has emoticons as well
[18:33] <superfly> Trixar_za: yeah, I don't think IRC is going to fade away
[18:37] <MaNI> its still better at some things then many of the new 'alternatives' it just lacks some shiny gimmicks, probably at some point we will see IRC start to add new features and catch up again
[18:37] <MaNI> the industry usually goes in cycles like that
[18:38] <inetpro> I have so many groups on whatsapp with so many different people it's sickening
[18:38] <inetpro> and somehow the masses just use it without needing any training
[18:38] <inetpro> slack and mattermost just add a little bit more structure to it all
[18:38] <inetpro> and integration with other services makes it just an awesome tool to simplify communication and coordination of projects
[18:39] <Kilos> inetpro may i have permission to sleep now
[18:39] <Kilos> please
[18:40] <inetpro> anybody have anything against Kilos going to sleep?
[18:40] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:40] <Kilos> thats better than a why anyway
[18:40] <inetpro> Kilos: go for it
[18:41] <Kilos> ty inetpro
[18:41] <inetpro> :-)
[18:41] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:41] <inetpro> good night oom
[18:41] <Kilos> ai!
[18:50] <inetpro> oh I see now where that npm comment from superfly comes from
[18:57] <Langjan> Hi inetpro hoe gaan dit?
[18:58] <Langjan> Have you sorted your bugs out?
[18:59] <Cryterion> nope, I got plenty flying around here, you want some?
[19:00] <Langjan> No thks, maybe find somebody who eats them?
[19:01] <Cryterion> That's what I'm trying to do....
[19:01] <Langjan> lmga!
[19:01] <Cryterion> :)
[19:02] <inetpro> hi Langjan, not sure whether they are still there
[19:02] <Langjan> Which emoji is :)?
[19:03] <inetpro> :) is jsut a colon and a bracket
[19:03] <Langjan> Hopefully they will be on their way when the cycle of whatever they do is over...
[19:03] <inetpro> just*
[19:03] <Cryterion> not sure on the emoji's is this better (:
[19:04] <Cryterion> ascii, always works ;)
[19:04] <Langjan> Sorry I thought that :) has a meaning that I still need to learn
[19:04] <Langjan> Never too old to learn
[19:05] <inetpro> ascii rules them all
[19:05] <Cryterion> what does it mean to you?
[19:05] <Cryterion> yep
[19:05] <Langjan> Nothing, just a question mark
[19:05] <Cryterion> :) happy ;) wink :( sad etc
[19:05] <inetpro> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_emoticons
[19:06] <Langjan> OK thks, will keep that handy
[19:06] <Cryterion> I still remember looking at ascii artwork, that reminds me, I'll find the link for starwars
[19:07] <Cryterion> maaz: google Starwars Ubuntu Terminal
[19:07] <Maaz> Cryterion: "How to Watch Star Wars in Terminal - Instructables" http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Watch-Star-Wars-in-Terminal/ :: "Watch Star Wars in the Ubuntu terminal - YouTube" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GZ5OUYooHE :: "Top 10 Linux Easter Eggs | DigitalOcean" https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/top-10-linux-easter-eggs :: "Watch ASCII
[19:07] <Maaz> Star Wars movie on terminal ubuntu 11.10" http://ubuntuportal.com/2011/10/watch-ascii-star-…
[19:07] <superfly> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjqOc8k5kjc
[19:07] <inetpro> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[19:07] <Langjan> Cute!
[19:10] <Cryterion> telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
[19:10] <Cryterion> in terminal, it waorks
[19:10] <Cryterion> works*
[19:11] <Cryterion> maaz: tell Kilos Put in terminal telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
[19:11] <Maaz> Cryterion: Sure, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[19:12]  * Cryterion sees everyone is watching starwars now
[19:13] <Langjan> Link gets a 404 error
[19:14] <Langjan> The one Maaz put up
[19:14] <inetpro> which one?
[19:14] <Langjan> http://ubuntuportal.com/2011/10/watch-ascii-star-…
[19:15] <inetpro> oh that one has clearly been cut off at the end
[19:15] <inetpro> character limits
[19:18] <Langjan> inetpro, Kilos tried to help and suggested perhaps you would know, am not getting joy trying to reinstall Google Earth in Ubuntu 14.04 32 bit
[19:19] <inetpro> Langjan: oh my, you're still on that?
[19:19] <Langjan> Welll I gave up last time but yes, still not getting it right
[19:19] <inetpro> what makes you prefer GE over the google maps web interface?
[19:20] <inetpro> we've been talking about it here and the general consensus seems to be that it's a waste of time
[19:20] <Langjan> perhaps I have not tried to make it work yet, going to outlying areas
[19:21] <inetpro> at least a waste of time IMHO
[19:21] <Langjan> IMHO?
[19:21] <inetpro> in my humble opinion
[19:21] <inetpro> somebody, I think superfly, compared it with skype
[19:21] <Cryterion> type in terminal
[19:22] <Langjan> oh, ok - its just been one of my little playgrounds that I go to now and then
[19:22] <Cryterion> it's a telnet thing, you need telnet before the addr
[19:22] <inetpro> Cryterion: he's talking about Google Earth now
[19:22] <Langjan> Strange that it worked fine until I did the fresh install the other day
[19:23] <Cryterion> grrr
[19:23] <Cryterion> hate it
[19:23] <inetpro> well clearly you need all the dependancies that go with it
[19:23] <Langjan> installing it or using it?
[19:23] <Langjan> the hate thing
[19:24] <inetpro> after all this time it seems google has not learnt to play nice with the open source communities
[19:24] <inetpro> they want all of the cake and are not interested in sharing
[19:24] <Langjan> I'm just wondering what happened or changed since a few days ago when it was working
[19:25] <Cryterion> think it needed a few extra packages, one being in email one that wasn't in repository that I had to manually install to get it to work, so I stopped there, as why the F does it need that package
[19:25] <inetpro> the right for them would be to submit a proper package in the official repositories
[19:25] <Cryterion> yep
[19:25] <inetpro> right way*
[19:26] <Langjan> Agreed, whats the point of one thats useless
[19:26] <Langjan> Better off without it
[19:27] <Cryterion> the site works fine for me, as does inetpro, so why bother about the app
[19:27] <inetpro> reminds me of the old days of RPM dependancy hell
[19:27] <Cryterion> reminds me of flying eproms around the country
[19:28] <Cryterion> it worked!
[19:28] <Langjan> Is Google maps web interface something more than just Google maps?
[19:28] <Cryterion> sate images and everything
[19:28] <Cryterion> maps.google.co.za
[19:29] <Cryterion> full functionallity
[19:30] <Cryterion> the app just wants to sky in my opinion
[19:30] <Cryterion> spy* sky
[19:30] <inetpro> not sure what more you need than sattelite, traffic, transit, terrain
[19:30] <inetpro> all available on the web interface
[19:31] <Cryterion> normal map is there, even street view
[19:31] <Cryterion> can take a virtual walk down the road on there
[19:31] <Langjan> I see what you mean, its all there. Thanks
[19:31] <Cryterion> no prob
[19:31] <Langjan> Now you tell me! lol
[19:32] <inetpro> :-)
[19:32] <Langjan> inetpro,  hope your tree survives
[19:32] <Cryterion> inetpro was helping you earlier, I tried to say but only got through now :)
[19:33] <Cryterion> sorry inetpro
[19:33] <inetpro> Langjan: you mean my trees, and I hope so to
[19:33] <inetpro> Cryterion: np
[19:33] <Langjan> OK thanks guys, keep up the good work
[19:33] <inetpro> Langjan: it's actually quite interesting
[19:33] <Cryterion> at least it sorted ;)
[19:34] <inetpro> around the Heatherdale graveyard there are plenty of these trees
[19:34] <inetpro> all look very healty
[19:34] <inetpro> healthy
[19:34] <inetpro> even got out of the car to go inspect and found no beetles there
[19:35] <inetpro> not far away from here
[19:35] <Cryterion> you can even put in specific geo-co-ordinates in the search, and it'll get you there
[19:36] <Langjan> I have found if you boost the trees immunity they become much less prone to bug infestation
[19:36] <Langjan> Same as with humans
[19:37] <inetpro> yep, I probably need to look at feeding them a bit
[19:37] <inetpro> hi Guest81407
[19:37] <Langjan> Best feed is trace elements from rock dust
[19:38] <Cryterion> depends on what you boost them with
[19:38] <Langjan> and cheapest
[19:38] <inetpro> Langjan: interesting idea, not sure what that means
[19:38] <Cryterion> varies from tree to tree
[19:39] <Langjan> Nature's store of trace elements is in rock, all trees benefit from it, one application lasts for many years
[19:39] <Cryterion> what tree is it inetpro?
[19:39] <inetpro> Cryterion: Karee
[19:40] <Langjan> I wrote a little booklet, can mail it to you - interesting subject
[19:40] <inetpro> that would be Rhus lancea
[19:40] <inetpro> Langjan: wow, that would be very nice
[19:41] <inetpro> you still have my address?
[19:41] <Langjan> let me have your email addres please, I think I did have it but cannot see it now
[19:41] <Cryterion> has edible berries btw
[19:42] <Langjan> Karee? Did'nt know that
[19:42] <Cryterion> brown-yellow berries
[19:42] <Cryterion> I'm looking it up in one of Kieth Kirsten's books I have on hand
[19:43] <Langjan> Ok inetpro  will you let me have you email please?
[19:44] <inetpro> Langjan: sent you an email
[19:44] <Langjan> OK thks
[19:45] <Langjan> ok the booklet is there
[19:45] <inetpro> got it, thanks a mill!
[19:46] <Langjan> Enjoy!
[19:46] <Langjan> my plesier
[19:46] <Cryterion> about the best I can offer right now file:///home/cryterion/Pictures/IMG_20160331_214325.jpg
[19:46] <Cryterion> grrr
[19:46] <Cryterion> http://pasteboard.co/2GqY8pY5.jpg
[19:46] <Cryterion> that's better
[19:47] <Langjan> I never spray my fruit trees, when they become vulnerable I just re-introduce some rock dust
[19:47] <inetpro> Cryterion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhus_lancea
[19:48] <inetpro> Langjan: sounds very very interesting indeed
[19:48] <Langjan> It is, crops like veggies also respond amazingly
[19:48] <inetpro> makes sense as well
[19:49] <Cryterion> well now you know, you can you karee jam and send it off to all of us now ;)
[19:49] <Langjan> Lekker!
[19:49] <Langjan> My wifey will send you the recipe
[19:50] <Cryterion> jam is easy, you need the fruit to do it
[19:50] <inetpro> Cryterion: give him your email address as well
[19:50] <inetpro> am sure you'll enjoy that also
[19:50] <Langjan> Or just orward it
[19:50] <Langjan> forward
[19:50] <Langjan> the booklet
[19:51]  * inetpro don't want to forward without permission
[19:51] <Langjan> no prob
[19:51] <Cryterion> lol
[19:51] <Langjan> hes right spot-on with good ethics
[19:52] <Langjan> OK guys gotta go, enjoy a good night's rest
[19:52] <inetpro> nag oom
[19:52] <inetpro> weereens baie dankie!
[19:53] <Langjan> Goeienag inetpro en my dank aan jou
[19:53] <Cryterion> nag
[19:53] <Langjan> 'gnight Cryterion
[19:53] <Langjan> slaap lekker
[19:54] <Cryterion> ya ook
[19:54] <Langjan> dankie