[18:17] <iUnify> Hey guys I can't find many of the apps that I've installed under their correct catigoties - using the  FILTER tab of the Ubuntu Search.... I've got alacarte but that doesn't work - when I make the changes they do not appear under the correct tab under filters, they are just then available to be SEARCHED.  I would like to see a full LIST of my installed apps that I can click the icon to and open the app.  THis is because I can not memor
[18:17] <cowbacon> Sicno: if you find a solution please forward it to me too. I can't fully shut down my server with shutdown -P now, it stops after all signals are terminated in the machine
[18:17] <iUnify> audio production wares
[18:17] <kostkon> r0b-, kubuntu is not an LTS as far as i know
[18:17] <r0b-> so BASICALLY the kernel will keep updating?
[18:17] <r0b-> neat.
[18:18] <Sicno> ok, I will but I hope I can find something :( but I don't think I'll find anything by myself, I don't know much about linux
[18:18] <Sicno> hence why I'm here
[18:18] <r0b-> thank you kostkon
[18:18] <kostkon> r0b-, np
[18:18]  * r0b- was like "wtf i just installed 12.04.3 64bit where did this 3.8 crap come from"
[18:19] <polaco> guys, some scripts have a special comment in the head lines like # -*- mode: ruby -*-     What is the name of this string header? Wanted to understand it more
[18:20] <polaco> i see also this one that i use a lot on python scripts: # -*- coding: UTF-8 -*-
[18:21] <cloudy_nz> polaco, hashbang line?
[18:21] <jrib> polaco: that's language-specific.
[18:22] <polaco> well it is close to hashbang, but hashbang is for telling which interpreter
[18:22] <polaco> jrib: indeed, but sounds like a convention or something. Saw in more than one language
[18:22] <jrib> polaco: sure
[18:23] <polaco> google sux at searching language syntax
[18:23] <polaco> cant find anything on -*-, even on verbatin
[18:23] <jrib> polaco: symbolhound.com perhaps
[18:23] <tsimpson> polaco: it's part of the python spec
[18:24] <polaco> tsimpson: indeed, but its a convention also as i look into it
[18:24] <polaco> because this: # -*- coding: UTF-8 -*-
[18:24] <tsimpson> http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0263/
[18:24] <polaco> python understand
[18:24] <polaco> but this # -*- mode: ruby -*-
[18:24] <polaco> editors use to understand that it is ruby
[18:24] <jrib> polaco: it's just a convention used by emacs from what I gather.
[18:24] <polaco> oh
[18:24] <polaco> its from emacs
[18:24] <polaco> interesting
[18:25]  * polaco extra point pushing to learn emacs
[18:25] <polaco> indeed
[18:26] <polaco> thats an emacs tag
[18:26] <jrib> polaco: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Specifying-File-Variables.html
[18:26] <cloudy_nz> my brain exploded trying to learn 3 million keyboards shortcuts in emacs
[18:26] <polaco> that some languages also use to understand it, like python encoding
[18:26] <polaco> jrib: thx! thats it!
[18:29] <marloshouse> i have two monitors, one of them is locked up, can't click on anything... what's the best way to reset it without rebooting and shutting everything down
[18:32] <AcidRain2012> theres something wrong with my sound. there is clipping in the music
[18:32] <AcidRain2012> ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[18:33] <AcidRain2012> i got a msg a few days ago after my format after my stupid chmod fail. said somethinga bout the sound drivers
[18:33] <cloudy_nz> marloshouse, I never found the answer to that in using ubuntu for 2.5 years full-time at work. Always had to reboot :(
[18:34] <marloshouse> crap
[18:34] <marloshouse> not sure what causes it, not sure how to fix it
[18:34] <marloshouse> though, farting around with it one afternoon when i had the time i managed to get it unlocked, not sure what the secret was
[18:35] <marloshouse> i am running windows-vm so somehow i think it's somehow linked to that
[18:35] <cloudy_nz> you probably have to be a professor of XOrg or Unity to solve it :-/
[18:37] <Sicno> if I try to boot normally I get this error and can't boot  http://imgur.com/H9Y0tQU  , if I set acpi=off I can boot but the pc won't power off (it can restart though). Any ideas?
[18:37] <dtcrshr> Hello! I have this notebook with win7 for gaming and ubuntu for regular use. As spected the windows install didnt took too much to be unusable, So I installed again over it, but lost the grub then. Following the ubuntu guide to boot up a live session to fix it, but as I try to boot from the usb stick I get a repeated line: udevd[125]: timeout: killing /sbin/modprobe -bv pci'HUGENUMBER' [123]
[18:38] <dtcrshr> this trying to boot, check the iso for failures and other options
[18:38] <sha1sum> My Google skills are turning up nada on this one: anybody experience static issues with audio via vanilla Chrome (e.g., not Chromium)?
[18:39] <SupaYoshi> i got a question regarding to ssl cert. I gave my computer a certificate install of my certificate, for HOMESRV. Now I still get a warning, since my FQDN hostname is HOMESRV.lan
[18:39] <SupaYoshi> How can I fix this so i dont get the error anymore? :D
[18:39] <sha1sum> Multiple sources, multiple methods (flash, HTML5, etc.)
[18:39] <Sicno> the iso is ok and I can boot with no problems with it on my pc, but on the pc I'm installing it into (not mine) it's not working
[18:40] <sha1sum> SupaYoshi: change the cert
[18:40] <SupaYoshi> sha1sum, inside the cert? or on the server? :D
[18:40] <SupaYoshi> how would i do that? :O
[18:40] <sha1sum> SupaYoshi: sorry, by "change the cert" I really mean "reissue the cert"
[18:40] <Fyodorovna> dtcrshr, I would start with a sum check of the iso
[18:41] <SupaYoshi> sha1sum, sure :D But how would that help?
[18:41] <SupaYoshi> I didnt change the hostname of the server, just when i type hostname
[18:41] <sha1sum> The cert should have the FQDN
[18:42] <SupaYoshi> When i type hostname i get HOMESRV. When i type hostname -fqn i get HOMESRV.lan
[18:42] <SupaYoshi> the cert was created using a command from console without changing hostname ><
[18:42] <SupaYoshi> jsut this way
[18:42] <SupaYoshi> sudo openssl req -x509 -nodes -days 1825  -newkey rsa:2048 -keyout /etc/apache2/ssl/apache.key -out /etc/apache2/ssl/apache.crt
[18:43] <Sicno> ...hello? I really don't want to be pushy and no need to summon ! patience, already read it, but I posted my question about half an hour and still not any kind of approach to it
[18:43] <SupaYoshi> what have i done wrong? I think my cert is for HOMESRV.lan, but I am going to browse to https://homesrv
[18:43] <SupaYoshi> since homesrv.lan doesnt work :)
[18:43] <SupaYoshi> https://homesrv.lan doesnt work so i ned to go to //homesrv/
[18:43] <SupaYoshi> and that gets me into trouble i suppoose?
[18:44] <AcidRain2012> how can i block chmod from being ran on "/"?
[18:45] <tsimpson> AcidRain2012: it's already blocked to everyone except root (and those who get get to root via sudo)
[18:45] <sha1sum> SupaYoshi: try this: http://virtualposh.com/2013/03/15/how-to-create-custom-ssl-san-certificates-which-contain-the-fqdn-hostname-and-ip-address/
[18:45] <cowbacon> AcidRain2012: i think you need to restrict usage of chmod for your sudo users, i.e. tweak sudoers and only allow the sudo users access to specific utilities
[18:46] <AcidRain2012> no no. i want to block all sudoers (including myself, which im the only one) from running chmod on "/" specifically
[18:46] <SupaYoshi> sha1sum,  im on ubuntu
[18:46] <SupaYoshi> this seems to be for windows server
[18:47] <cowbacon> AcidRain2012: don't think thats possible unless you create your own chmod script that first checks if the folder being targeted is / else send the command to the real chmod
[18:47] <sha1sum> SupaYoshi: meh I didn't check the OS and every instruction's not meant to be literal; I intended it to be a starting point
[18:47] <marloshouse> upon shutting down i noticed some unity dialog windows that were open in the back-ground, so there was problem some dialog begging my attention that I wasn't seeing causing the desktop to lock up
[18:50] <sha1sum> SupaYoshi: look into SubjectAltName
[18:50] <checoimg> ...
[18:51] <SinnerNyx> for an upstart service I created I run 'sudo stop njs'... This just blocks on the console until I ctrl+C. Any ideas why? Do I need to do something in the upstart to indicate how to kill the process?
[18:51] <ChogyDan> SinnerNyx: is this your own upstart script?
[18:51] <SinnerNyx> ChogyDan: Yes.
[18:52] <ChogyDan> SinnerNyx: yeah, I think you have to have a stop section, with the commands to run
[18:52] <cowbacon> SinnerNyx: if i remember correctly sudo isn't working correctly in rc and upstard because it needs a tty. it should be run as root anyway
[18:52] <cowbacon> atleast that was how it was for me when i added a script to rclocal
[18:53] <sha1sum> Anybody experience static through Chrome (not Chromium), but only over an HDMI output interface?
[18:53] <sha1sum> (or even if you don't and have a solution)
[18:53] <SinnerNyx> cowbacon: So I should sudo su, first and then just run the stop line alone?
[18:53] <mayhew> SinnerNyx: if your process doesn't run in the foreground, you need to add an "expect" clause depending on if it forks or daemonizes. http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#expect
[18:53] <SinnerNyx> mayhew: I have a expect fork.
[18:54] <SinnerNyx> ChogyDan: I'll look up stop stanzas now
[18:54] <cowbacon> SinnerNyx: unless i missunderstood you the service should already be running as root so you won't need sudo
[18:54] <cowbacon> and for me, i had to remove sudo from my upstart script because it gave an error saying sudo needed a tty
[18:55] <MRNV> SinnerNyx: I suply cowbacon, some command need to start with sudo su first, or use root console if you have xfce or debian
[18:55] <sha1sum> SupaYoshi: sorry if I missed anything. Noticed my lag creeping up so had to switch servers.
[18:55] <harris> why does the boot menu display when ubuntu is only os installed
[18:55] <Sicno> ...so, since nobody is interested in trying to help me I guess I'll have no option but to ditch ubuntu and put windows back
[18:56] <sha1sum> harris: to give you an opportunity to specify boot options, boot into safe mode, or boot to a different kernel
[18:56] <harris> how do i just boot straight to ubuntu no boot menue
[18:56] <arvut> hey. where do I edit configs to make x11vnc startup with the OS (ubuntu 10.04LTS)
[18:56] <Fyodorovna> harris run sudo update-gru
[18:57] <sha1sum> Sicno: don't be a diva. Maybe no one knows how to help you or is busy helping someone else. What was the problem?
[18:57] <Fyodorovna> Grub
[18:57] <arvut> I imagine its somewhere in /etc
[18:57] <sha1sum> harris: not a good idea. You can lower the delay, but (even if you could, which I'm not sure if you can) I wouldn't advise turning off the GRUB menu
[18:57] <harris> any tips on speeding up dash and other windows
[18:58] <harris> sha1sum, any tips
[18:58] <arvut> ahh.. inetd
[18:58] <ChogyDan> harris: I changed how the dash appeared, made it fade in without the slide, and that seemed faster
[18:58] <cowbacon> arvut: you can add it to rc.local. you can google it for more specific instructions
[18:59] <sha1sum> Damned lag.
[18:59] <Sicno> sha1sum: I asked a question 40 minutes ago and the only reply I got was "check the disc integrity", which i already did in the past and I said so. Other than that I didn.'t get anything. My problem is that on an all-in-one HP machine I get the following error when trying to boot  http://imgur.com/H9Y0tQU  and only if I set "acpi=off" I can boot. But later I can't shutdown the system, it hangs out at the end. It can reboot though, but not powe
[18:59] <Sicno> r off.
[19:00] <MRNV> Sicno: try to remember what you done, maybe you made a mistake, and don't be harry
[19:00] <ChogyDan> Sicno: you may want to specify what version of ubuntu, and maybe what kind of computer
[19:01] <SinnerNyx> I tried adding a "kill timeout" to the upstart but it still fails to stop
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> harris sudo update-grub should set it to hide, did you run it?
[19:02] <Sicno> it's an HP all.in-one machine (let me check the exact product number), running ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS 64 bits
[19:02] <harris> wilee-nilee, how do i make it overall faster
[19:02] <Sicno> and as I said before, sorry for being pushy, I was patient enough, waited 10-20 minutes, but after 40 minutes...
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> harris, but a faster computer
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> Buy
[19:04] <sha1sum> Sicno: do you have a "CPU EIST Function" (EIST = Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology) or similar in the BIOS settings for the machine?
[19:04] <Sicno> also I tried this  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI  , "acpi=off" boots but "acpi=ht" doesn't, so "the issue is in the ACPI table parsing code itself, or perhaps the SMP code". Any ideas about what to do now?
[19:05] <rednaks> Hello !
[19:05] <vegardwonders> hey guys!
[19:05] <Sicno> sha1sum: the bios is minimal (really minimal) and doesn't have that option
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> harris if it is running as it was when you installed without any real detailed valid description, do we just guess?
[19:05] <rednaks> I have a critical issue with gpg any one can help here ?
[19:06] <ChogyDan> Sicno: some basic ideas would be to try 32bit and to try 13.04
[19:06] <vegardwonders> im wanting to limit the bandwidth on my box, and i downloaded a TC script which i ran. but before i thought to change the parameters of the script, i ran it. now ive got very slow net, and i want to stop the script, change it, and run the new version. basically my question is, how do i stop TC scripts?
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> rednacks, state the issue
[19:07] <rednaks> Is that okey if I can export my gpg-private key without asking for a password ?
[19:08] <rednaks> signing and decrypting askme for passephrase but not exporting ...
[19:08] <sha1sum> Sicno: have you tried "acpi=force" ?
[19:09] <Sicno> ChogyDan: before trying this one I tried 32 and 64 bit of different versions, including 13.04, but they didn't boot either. I gave up on it, installed windows on the pc, delivered it, but the HDD died, got it back with a new HDD, tried to make it work this time, got a tip to try acpi=off, worked, been at it then the only thing I have left to do is making it power off properly
[19:09] <Sicno> sha1sum: gonna try that now
[19:10] <tozen> .quit
[19:10] <sha1sum> . != /
[19:11] <vegardwonders> uh?
[19:13] <Sicno> sha1sum: same error at boot
[19:16] <Sicno> following the debugging guide I mentioned before they key part should be "the issue is in the ACPI table parsing code itself, or perhaps the SMP code". What does that mean?
[19:17] <sha1sum> Sicno: with acpi=off, does it shut down but not power off?
[19:18] <ubuntu_studio> fdfd
[19:18] <Sicno> sha1sum: it does seem to close everything nicely, it just doesn't power off at the end. Especially considering the pc does reboot, but turning it off stays at the ubuntu logo with white dots forever
[19:18] <cowbacon> sha1sum: thats what my server does. is there any easy way to fix that?
[19:18] <ubuntu_studio> hello
[19:21] <emmet> hello.
[19:21] <ubuntu> der
[19:22] <emmet> I just install ubuntu mini.iso and I have no desktop so I installed irssi to come here and ask how to setup the desktop.
[19:22] <emmet> s/installed/installed
[19:22] <tsimpson> emmet: install the 'ubuntu-desktop' package and you should have a standard ubuntu install
[19:22] <wilee-nilee> emmet, what desktop?
[19:22] <emmet> mini.iso ubuntu
[19:23] <Sicno> and got the model number now. The machine is an HP All-in-One 200-5030la
[19:23] <emmet> unity
[19:23] <emmet> tsimpson:  what config does the "ubuntu-desktop" need?
[19:23] <tsimpson> emmet: nothing, it will pull in all the standard packages the normal ubuntu install has
[19:23] <ChogyDan> Sicno: I would suggest filing a bug report, but it looks like you won't have the computer long...
[19:24] <emmet> alright. ya tsimpson  I see ALOt lol
[19:24] <Sicno> yeah, I have to deliver it ASAP and that means in a couple of hours tops
[19:25] <tim-ct> greetings all
[19:26] <tim-ct> does anyone know why iptables-save >/etc/iptables/rules.v4 does not save the rules
[19:26] <tim-ct> deletes all the changes
[19:27] <sha1sum> Sicno: not having any luck here... try opening a two tty sessions... on one, monitor dmesg, then on the other, issue a shutdown command ("sudo /sbin/shutdown now") and see what comes up
[19:27] <Sicno> tty sessions?
[19:27] <emmet> Sicno: ctrl+alt+FB
[19:27] <emmet> Sicno: ctrl+alt+F2
[19:28] <emmet> then you come back to this one the same way
[19:28] <sha1sum> Sicno: also are there any BIOS updates that you can download?
[19:28] <emmet> ops...probbaly too late for tht :/
[19:28] <emmet> im stupid
[19:28] <emmet> sha1sum:  sorry.
[19:29] <Sicno> sha1sum: looking for it but not sure where exactly should I get it
[19:29] <emmet> oh he didnt do it yet.
[19:29] <emmet> yay
[19:29] <sha1sum> Sicno: most likely from HP if it's an HP branded system
[19:30] <emmet> anyone here know how to switch windows/servers in irssi
[19:30] <emmet> i really never used irssi before :P
[19:30] <emmet> only once.
[19:30] <bneg> \/
[19:31] <sha1sum> emmet: ALT+1, ALT+2, etc.
[19:31] <emmet> sha1sum:  thanks.
[19:32] <sha1sum> emmet: you may have to disable those shortcuts from your terminal emulator if they don't act as expected.
[19:32] <yofun> sha1sum:  Im in command only atm :P
[19:32] <yofun> waiting for another tty to install the desktop
[19:33] <SubCool> is there a way to manage raid from GUI?
[19:33] <SubCool> Like i want to add, change partition sizes and such
[19:34] <yofun> sha1sum:  no tab trick?
[19:34] <themanwithnoface> i'm running 13.04 on an inspiron laptop 4GB RAM 500gb hdd and it's overheating a buit, installed jupiter, still overheating..
[19:34] <yofun> (auto nick complete)
[19:34] <sha1sum> yofun: eh?
[19:34] <sha1sum> oh
[19:34] <yofun> (auto nick complete -tab)
[19:34] <sha1sum> yofun: you mean in irssi?
[19:34] <yofun> yea
[19:35] <sha1sum> Yeah it does that
[19:35] <yofun> oh...It wasnt doing it a min ago -_-
[19:36] <sha1sum> yofun: a nice command to know: /ignore -channels #ubuntu,##linux * JOINS PARTS NICKS QUITS
[19:36] <sha1sum> yofun: keeps all the riff-raff hidden
[19:36] <yofun> sha1sum:  haha.
[19:37] <yofun> yea. Its a little annoying
[19:37] <Sicno> I need a package for using dmseg
[19:37] <Sicno> hoy do I get that package from the command line?
[19:37] <Sicno> how*
[19:37] <yofun> Sicno:  what package?
[19:37] <Sicno> 'util-linux'
[19:38] <sha1sum> Sicno: "tail -f /var/log/messages"
[19:38] <sha1sum> Sicno: that will follow the log output you're looking for
[19:39] <crypticmofo> hi all .. i have a question .. i have a lenova twist its a ultrabook that has the mouse in the middle of the keyboard trackpad whatever .. problem is when i was using the live dvd the mouse was fine .. when i installed ubuntu the mouse stuttered and it didn't act right .. is there a fix for this ?
[19:40] <bneg> crypticmofo: define stutter
[19:40] <crypticmofo> i move the mouse to lets say resize a window
[19:40] <sha1sum> bneg: I think he means "st-st-st-stutt-stutter"
[19:40] <sha1sum> lol
[19:40] <crypticmofo> and when i go to resize it the mouse jumps
[19:40] <crypticmofo> lol
[19:40] <crypticmofo> you know what i mean
[19:41] <bneg> crypticmofo: "resize"?
[19:41] <Sicno> "no such file or directory" (I'm in the live session by the way, since it behaves exactly the same as the installed one and if I change a parameter that would make it unbootable it won't affect the live disc)
[19:41] <rourick> hello :)
[19:42] <crypticmofo> bneg i have a 13 inh screen .. on windows my resolution is 1366x768 .. the windows get very small
[19:42] <Mardik_Shell> ola boa tarde
[19:42] <Privarchy> Hello, all.
[19:42] <Mardik_Shell> hello
[19:43] <crypticmofo> bneg i like making windows or lets say terminal smaller .. so i try to shirnk it and the mouse stutters or jumps .. then i have to keep fighting my mouse then eventually i can resize
[19:43] <rourick> new user here... i made a backup disk's (4) now can i dedicate ubuntu to all hd and install win8 back if i wanted with disk's?
[19:44] <Privarchy> Can somebody explain how I would upload a .txt file to https://github.com/Privarchy/Gittest
[19:44] <Privarchy> Please.
[19:44] <yofun> sha1sum:  is 512mb even enough to run "ubuntu-desktop"?
[19:44] <SubCool> no one- gui raid partitioning?
[19:44] <bneg> crypticmofo: Ah, your mouse sensitivity is too sensitive
[19:45] <Privarchy> I'm sorry to be a pain.
[19:45] <bneg> I have/had a similar prob on my Lenovo
[19:45] <yofun>   is 512mb even enough to run "ubuntu-desktop"?
[19:45] <bruce_wayne> hi everyone is there a free ubuntu cloud server/free lunix server online so i can install ubuntu or kde in? Found Amazon EC2 and Rackspace but those i have to pay
[19:45] <bruce_wayne> :/
[19:46] <sha1sum> yofun: should be enough... at what *speed* is the question.
[19:46] <sha1sum> RAM is cheap now.
[19:47] <yofun> sha1sum: yea. true
[19:47] <kostkon> yofun, not enough. it is going to swap like crazy
[19:47] <yofun> sha1sum: just fixing up a old computer for web and music
[19:47] <sha1sum> Price of 512MB == Price of few sammiches
[19:47] <Sicno> sha1sum: maybe the file is named in a different way?
[19:48] <kostkon> yofun, try lubuntu not vanilla ubuntu
[19:48] <yofun> yea. I have this other old computer that I probbaly can pull ram from...maybe.
[19:48] <sha1sum> Sicno: if you're trying to tab-complete the name and it's not completing, then it may be that you do not have permission. Try sudo
[19:48] <kimda> hi. i just compiled a driver as a dkms module. but after the reboot i see with modprobe the version i build but when i do ethtool -i eth0 i see another driver. which driver is loaded?
[19:49] <kostkon> yofun, then if you could add another 1.5-2GBs
[19:49] <sha1sum> Dude my first *hard*drive* was 25MB... I feel old
[19:49] <sha1sum> probably just because my 30th birthday is tomorrow.
[19:49] <sha1sum> I feel like an ancient sumbit
[19:50] <yofun> oh wow sha1sum The smallest I seen was a 12GB hard drive
[19:50] <Sicno> sha1sum: same result, also went to /var/log/ and there's no file named "messages"
[19:50] <yofun> with windows 98
[19:50] <sha1sum> Sicno: oh sorry I'm a dumbass sometimes... /var/log/dmesg
[19:51] <Sicno> ok, no rpoblem  ;)
[19:51] <Sicno> errr... problem* see? happens to everybody  :P
[19:51] <sha1sum> heheh
[19:51]  * sha1sum has had too many Newcastles already
[19:52] <yofun> sha1sum: newcastles?
[19:52] <val10> hi, i have a problem, When i update my ubuntu 12.04, after restarting he is stuck and dont turn on anymore. Something with video card. It`s not recognize her. And now i re-install it but i afraid to update again.
[19:52] <gordonjcp> nothing wrong with Newkie, for a low-cost mass-produced beer
[19:53] <yofun> ah (didnt know it was a band of beer)
[19:53] <yofun> brand*
[19:53] <sha1sum> gordonjcp: yeah the "low cost" part is why I'm drinking it... We have a really awesome brown ale here in the Tampa Bay area called Cigar City Maduro
[19:53] <sha1sum> it's actually not that much more money but I don't feel like driving 30 blocks to go get it.
[19:54] <sha1sum> which is sad.
[19:54] <sha1sum> (both that I don't have it and won't drive 30 blocks)
[19:55] <sha1sum> So I guess what I'm saying is that it's really the "mass-produced" part that's the reason I'm drinking it.
[19:55] <bazhang> !ot | sha1sum
[19:56] <Sicno> sha1sum: ok, tried it, on the one I was monitoring i got "The system is going down for maintenance NOW!", then after a while got a new prompt line (root@ubuntu:~#)
[19:56] <sha1sum> bazhang: Jiminy Cricket man... do you see any other topics I'm competing with? heheh
[19:57] <bazhang> sha1sum, the channel for chat is not this one. we have a channel for that regardless of the activity level here
[19:57] <yofun> meh
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> sha1sum  please keep the channel clear for ubuntu support questions
[19:58] <sha1sum> Yeah I hear ya. Not sure that the channel is not "clear" because of my chat but whatever. I understand. My apologies.
[20:00] <sha1sum> SO, since we're all serious, what's next? Sicno, did you get anywhere with monitor the dmesg logs?
[20:01] <sha1sum> monitoring*
[20:02] <yofun> so sha1sum "unbuntu-desktop" is installed is there a command to run it?
[20:02] <yofun> or should i restart?
[20:02] <Sicno> sha1sum: on the one with dmesg got the "system is going down for maintenance NOW!" message, after that a new prompt line (root@ubuntu:~#)
[20:03] <bazhang> yofun, log out and select at login window
[20:03] <yofun> bazhang:  select where?
[20:03] <dtcrshr> where else more than /etc/apt/sources.lst I have repos ?
[20:03] <yofun> bazhang: im on a tty
[20:03] <yofun> two ttys to speak.
[20:04] <bazhang> dtcrshr, /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[20:04] <yofun> one for IRC and the other I /was/ installing "ubuntu-desktop"
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> dtcrshr, /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[20:04] <kostkon> Sicno, sudo lightdm restart?
[20:05] <kostkon> Sicno, sorry, i meatn sudo service lightdm restart
[20:05] <Sicno> sha1sum: and in the one shutting down at the end I got "Will now switch to single-user mode    [fail]"
[20:05] <Sicno> I'll try that, kostkon
[20:06] <crypticmofo> ok
[20:06] <Sicno> on which one? the one shutting down or the one monitoring?
[20:06] <crypticmofo> im going to boot / install ubuntu and i will be back
[20:07] <mohit> please help me with ubuntu 13.04 wifi problem . i am new to this environment
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> mohit, run lspci in the terminal find the wifi and post it.
[20:08] <mohit> ok
[20:08] <Sicno> kostkon: ok, don't know what what the purpose of that
[20:08] <Sicno> the problem is that the system doesn't power off, it can boot correctly but not power off
[20:08] <Sicno> reboot correctly*
[20:08] <kostkon> Sicno, bring up lightdm and its chain of deps like X etc
[20:09] <Sicno> what do you mean?
[20:09] <kostkon> Sicno, and the desktop environment, unity at some point
[20:09] <kostkon> Sicno, anyway, just reboot
[20:09] <Sicno> but man, that's not the problem
[20:09] <Sicno> thanks for that but that's mnot the problem
[20:10] <kostkon> Sicno, ok
[20:10] <sha1sum> Damn I have to leave. See ya all.
[20:10] <Sicno> the problem is that the pc needs acpi=off in order to boot, but it doesn't power off when given the order to shutdown
[20:11] <kostkon> Sicno, oh ok
[20:11] <Sicno> it reboots ok, it seems to close everything ok at shutdown, it just doesn't power off and hangs out there forever
[20:12] <datandroiddude> where would i get started with kernel development to build an OS in Linux?
[20:13] <wilee-nilee> datandroiddude, Not here this is ubuntu support
[20:13] <datandroiddude> ugh ok sry but i also wanted to noe if i could install ubuntu on my asus g75vx?
[20:14] <emmet> haha...I dont even have a swap :
[20:14] <datandroiddude> wilee-nilee
[20:14] <datandroiddude> ugh ok sry but i also wanted to noe if i could install ubuntu on my asus g75vx?
[20:14] <emmet> how do I set up a swap in ubuntu?
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> emmet, You can use gparted, be aware of the types of partitions and the limitations on a single HD.
[20:15] <mohit> wilee its 00:00.0 Host bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 Host Bridge (rev b1) 00:00.1 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 Memory Controller (rev b1) 00:03.0 ISA bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 LPC Bridge (rev b2) 00:03.1 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 Memory Controller (rev b1) 00:03.2 SMBus: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 SMBus (rev b1) 00:03.3 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 Memory Controller (rev b1) 00:03.5 Co-processor: NV
[20:15] <z4sk0> hi all
[20:16] <z4sk0> i am trying to record my voice with "rec audio.wav rate 64k silence 3 0.1 1.5% 2.3 3.0 3%". The idea is that only record when detect my voice, but the problem its that to many times cut the first letters of the sentence. Any ideas?
[20:16] <emmet> wilee-nilee:  eh. my desktop is a little slow for the gui atm.
[20:16] <emmet> thats why I need a swap :{
[20:16] <emmet> :P
[20:16] <xeonix> Hello all :]
[20:17] <emmet> whats the other desktops I can switch too other then ubuntu desktop?
[20:17] <emmet> the simpler less ram usage ones
[20:17] <emmet> (I have 512mb ram
[20:17] <xeonix> emmet, puppy linux
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> mohit, First you can tab complete nicks, second that is all graphic info, 3rd that much data would go to a pastebin.
[20:17] <emmet> xeonix:  meh debian ran fine.
[20:18] <deepak_rai> does ubuntu work with efi booting
[20:18] <emmet> I just wanted ubuntu but I guess I cant.
[20:18] <franquin> emmet: lubuntu, xubuntu, debian
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> emmet, lubuntu or lxde would be okay
[20:18] <kostkon> emmet, lubuntu
[20:18] <deepak_rai> i have a lenovo which doesnt boot from the usb
[20:18] <deepak_rai> trying a unetbootin disk
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | deepak_rai
[20:18] <emmet> can I just switch to lubuntu or no?
[20:18] <datandroiddude> my asus doesnt boot either
[20:18] <emmet> deepak_rai: on windows?
[20:18] <kostkon> emmet, install the lubuntu-desktop package
[20:18] <datandroiddude> wa
[20:18] <datandroiddude> ya
[20:18] <emmet> deepak_rai: theres wubi.exe
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> emmet, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-dektop
[20:19] <emmet> you can use that
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> desktop*
[20:19] <datandroiddude> ill try wubi but it doesnt support w8
[20:19] <deepak_rai> emmet:  i created a bootable usb disk but it doesnt boot on my win 8 ultrabook
[20:19] <datandroiddude> me too but its an asus
[20:19] <emmet> Ah.
[20:19] <datandroiddude> g75vx
[20:20] <mohit> wilww-nilee , sorry for my last post .. i hope this line can help you Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[20:20] <emmet> deepak_rai: have you tryed the wubo.exe?
[20:20] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | mohit This is all I know
[20:20] <deepak_rai> emmet: what can wubi do?
[20:20] <emmet> deepak_rai:  Do you have an existing windows install on it?
[20:20] <Lecter> hi
[20:20] <wilee-nilee> deepak_rai, wubi will not run in a W8 setup, read the uefi info from the bot.
[20:20] <deepak_rai> emmet: yes. I have win 8 installed
[20:20] <grendal-prime> denker
[20:21] <deepak_rai> emmet: it doesnt boot from the usb
[20:21] <Sicno> well, it seems I'll have to convince the old lady that after the system hangs out forever when shutting it down pressing the power button to turn it off is perfectly normal and not a problem  -_-
[20:21] <deepak_rai> ok thanks wilee-nilee .  i will go through the link
[20:21] <crypticmofo> has anyoone installed ubuntu on a efi parition ?
[20:21] <Lecter> I am having diffitulties opening a shared harddrive from another computer on my workgroup
[20:21] <Sicno> looking at the time... I shoudl start finishing the other details on the pc to deliver it soon
[20:21] <mohit> wilee-nilee , i can use my wifi during live mode, but when i install it i cant use it anymore and even the SOF window is not helping me
[20:21] <blarget_ubuntu> so
[20:21] <blarget_ubuntu> webgl doesnt work on 12.04 stl
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> !uefi > crypticmofo
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> mohit, Common problem, just follow the link.
[20:22] <Lecter> anybody is good with networking and sharing?
[20:22] <Sicno> thanks for all the help anyway
[20:22] <emmet> kostkon:  will lubuntu override ubuntu-desktop after the install?
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> !anyone > Lecter
[20:23] <emmet> probbaly should unstall 'ubuntu-desktop?'
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> emmet, YOu choose it from the login gear dropdown.
[20:23] <emmet> oh okay
[20:23] <kostkon> emmet, no, you will have both. just logout, click on the gear icon and select the lubuntu session from the dropdown list
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> emmet, You are cosistenly giving very bad advice.
[20:23] <mohit> wilee-nilee,  thanks but where is the link ?
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> consistently*
[20:23] <emmet> wilee-nilee: okay sorry Ill stop
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | mohit
[20:24] <emmet> wilee-nilee: I didnt know wubi didnt work on win8
[20:24] <Lecter> wilee-nilee can you help me parameter the shared drives?
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> emmet, YOu can't just easily remove the ubuntu desktop either
[20:24] <mohit> Thnaks
[20:24] <emmet> wilee-nilee: it installed in a easy way. shouldnt it unstall easly?
[20:25] <emmet> apt-get unstall ubuntu-desktop ?
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> Lecter, State your issue to the channel for help.
[20:25] <bruce_wayne> hi everyone is there a free ubuntu cloud server/free lunix server online so i can install ubuntu or kde in? Found Amazon EC2 and Rackspace but those i have to pay
[20:25] <emmet> oh wait nvm..
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> emmet, No it is a meta package.
[20:25] <guntbert> emmet: no, read up what a meta package does
[20:25] <Lecter> my issue is drive sharing with windows computers on a network
[20:25] <emmet> will do when I get a working desktop :p
[20:26] <guntbert> !ot | bruce_wayne
[20:26] <Lecter> I am able to connect to the workgroup, individual computers, but I am unable to open shared drives
[20:26] <emmet> whats the command to restart ubuntu-desktop? (tty7 is frozen)
[20:26] <Lecter> can you help me with that wilee-nilee?
[20:27] <themanwithnoface> second that emmet
[20:27] <mohit> ubottu, i am new to ubuntu, i can see the driver links there, but i am using different laptops for ubuntu and this chat
[20:27] <Skyrell> hello
[20:27] <kostkon> emmet, what version of ubuntu is it?
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> Lecter, It is considered rude to ask for help without being addressed.
[20:28] <emmet> kostkon: 13.04
[20:28] <emmet> mini.iso
[20:28] <bruce_wayne> ubotto dear friend..fuck you from the bottom of my hart..
[20:28] <mohit> wilee-nilee, i am new to ubuntu, i can see the driver links there, but i am using different laptops for ubuntu and this chat
[20:28] <kostkon> emmet, not idea then :/
[20:28] <kostkon> no*
[20:29] <mohit> ubottu but still you can try .. cause i dint know anything about ubuntu..
[20:29] <guntbert> Lecter: what wilee-nilee probably wanted to say: don't target one person with your question, put your problem to the channel, if anyone knows how to help they will answer
[20:30] <Lecter> thanks for explaining it guntbert
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> mohit, All I can do is show you the link, I have not had to mess with wifi drivers, if you can plug in the Ethernet do that, the link explains your situation if you look close.
[20:30] <AcidRain2012> mohit, u r talking to a bot. what question do you have?
[20:31] <wilee-nilee> I said what I felt If the user had actually read the posts that info was already there.
[20:31] <mohit> wilee-nilee, i dont have a wired connection .. so unable to download them :(
[20:31] <Lecter> so is there someone who crossnetworked with windows machines a bit here?
[20:31] <AcidRain2012> mohit, do you have an android phone?
[20:32] <AcidRain2012> or a laptop?
[20:32] <mohit> AcidRain2012 , cant use my wifi
[20:32] <mohit> laptop
[20:32] <sys9p> hello. im currently in step of installing ubuntu 10:10. i'm courius how to check if hd is used as sata drive native or sata in ide mode. is it possible via /sys/ ?
[20:32] <AcidRain2012> hook 1 laptop to the other laptop, use it as a bridge from the router
[20:32] <bekks> Lecter: Why?
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> sys9p, 10.10 id end of life and not supported install 12.04 or after
[20:32] <wilee-nilee> is*
[20:32] <themanwithnoface> wilee-nilee: any epxerience with this "Could not mount dev/mapper/cryptswap1"
[20:33] <guntbert> Lecter: a tip from the sideline: ask your real question in one line (no <enter> in between) and prepare for patience - repeating every 10-12 minutes is ok
[20:33] <sys9p> wilee-nilee: i know that :)
[20:33] <mohit> AcidRain2012 , i am new to ubuntu, this is my first time .. i saw a video over youtube and able to use my wifi in live mode.. but after complete install i cant use my wifi like before
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> sys9p, Then why are you asking?
[20:33] <AcidRain2012> mohit, i am aware of this. so do you have a solution?
[20:34] <sys9p> because it-s linux base related Q not distribution.
[20:34] <mohit> AcidRain2012 no
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> sys9p, and easy to figure out.
[20:35] <sys9p> ok. so i cat'ed /sys/block/sda/device/queue_depth. so i think it is in native sata mode
[20:35] <Guest18290> hello
[20:35] <emmet> haha..."love:not found"
[20:35] <AcidRain2012> lulz
[20:35] <mohit> AcidRain2012 , please help me with my wifi so i can use net and explore the world of opensource
[20:36] <AcidRain2012> The program 'love' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[20:36] <AcidRain2012> sudo apt-get install love
[20:36] <AcidRain2012> mohit, i wasnt going to help. but the way you asked has tempted me ;)
[20:36] <AcidRain2012> what wifi card do you have?
[20:36] <emmet> AcidRain2012:  lol. yea but I meant the package "lubuntu-desktop' said love: not found
[20:37] <emmet> hopefully thats not important :P
[20:37] <AcidRain2012> lol. no love in lubuntu-desktop
[20:37] <emmet> haha.
[20:37] <mohit> AcidRain2012 why not
[20:37] <AcidRain2012> should use cinnamon ;)
[20:37] <Magicarp> Some packages where just updated (I found which ones in the term.log) and now steam complains about OpenGL GLX isn't using direct rendering.
[20:37] <AcidRain2012> mohit, i have limited time. tell me what wifi card you have
[20:37] <nurow> hello. has anyone ever had an issue with Filezilla where all of the accounts in the sites manager have been changed to "Ask for Password" and none of the saved passwords are available?
[20:38] <mohit> Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
[20:38] <nurow> and if I try to change the account type to normal, it says "that account type is not available in this mode"
[20:38] <bekks> nurow: Nope.
[20:38] <mohit> AcidRain2012 Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller
[20:38] <guntbert> nurow: "anonymity" mode?
[20:39] <nurow> actually it says it is running in Kiosk mode
[20:39] <guntbert> nurow: sorry, I misread
[20:39] <AcidRain2012> mohit, ive had similar problems in the past. your solution is here; http://dimitar.me/broadcom-wireless-chipset-bcm4311-bcm4312-bcm4321-and-bcm4322-on-ubuntu-karmic/
[20:39] <AcidRain2012> first google link
[20:40] <nurow> fuck. I was able to remove Kiosk mode but now all of my passwords are gone
[20:40] <IdleOne> !language
[20:41] <AcidRain2012> nurow, whose passwords are you trying to take?
[20:41] <nurow> AcidRain2012: what?
[20:42] <nurow> I am a web developer with over 50 accounts on my Filezilla that I use for quick access to my accounts. Please don't accuse people of BS.
[20:42] <AcidRain2012> how do i turn echo off in terminal?
[20:42] <AcidRain2012> lol
[20:42] <mohit> AcidRain2012 can i download these driever to different computer and then use in ubuntu via usb drive ?
[20:43] <AcidRain2012> mohit, yes. make backups of everything first. because the link i gave you is for a different chipset
[20:43] <mohit> ok
[20:43] <AcidRain2012> mohit, BUT, it may work for you. i was using a different version of some modules for an older chipset i had. it worked for me
[20:43]  * tacpacpoc the best game REAL GOLD : http://www.goldentowns.com?i=7386
[20:43] <mohit> AcidRain2012 thanks .. let me try
[20:49] <Magicarp> Update manager updated some mesa packages and now steam complains that OpenGL GLX isn't using direct rendering?
[20:49] <Zig> Can someone hel with a internet connection problem on Ubuntu 13.04? it sees the connection, trys to connect, but does not successfully connect.
[20:50] <Zig> help*
[20:51] <nabblet> Zig: did it work before?
[20:52] <Zig> Nope
[20:52] <Zig> literally jsut downloaded it on my pc
[20:52] <Zig> im in here on another one
[20:52] <nabblet> Zig: it = ubuntu 13.04?
[20:52] <Zig> It had a windows 7 system
[20:52] <Zig> yes
[20:52] <Zig> 3.04
[20:52] <Zig> 3.04
[20:53] <Zig> 13.04*
[20:53] <Zig> it did connect to the internet on the windows 7 OS, but will not on the 13.04 version of ubuntu
[20:53] <nabblet> Zig: ok
[20:54] <nabblet> Zig: are you new to ubuntu?
[20:54] <Zig> Yes, very much so.
[20:54] <nabblet> just to know your level of experience
[20:54] <nabblet> Zig: argh, my internet is incredibly slow... there is an extra website about wlan for ubuntu
[20:55] <reisio> Zig: wireless?
[20:55] <Zig> wlan? i dont even know what that is
[20:55] <Zig> yes reisio
[20:56] <nabblet> Zig: can you paste the output of lspci -v?
[20:56] <nabblet> !paste Zig
[20:56] <Zig> One sec, ill post
[20:56] <nabblet> !paste
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> Zig  wlan is wireless local area network, wifi, your wireless connection
[20:57] <Zig> ya
[20:58] <Zig> i cannot post using the pastebin due to the lack of internet on the machine
[20:59] <Zig> if you tell me what text to look for, i can check it maybe
[20:59] <nabblet> Zig: can you spot something that says someting about your wireless card?
[20:59] <reisio> Zig: how about the computer make/model #?
[21:00] <nabblet> Zig: paste the output of this command "lspci -v | grep 802.11"
[21:00] <dan123_> hello, I installed saned and xinetd in a server which has a scanner attached. How can I configure clients to see the scanner attached to the scanner? It looks like port 6566 is up
[21:00] <Zig> the wireless card info is : Intel Corp. Centrino Wireless-N + WiMAX 6150
[21:01] <mohit> unable to use wifi in ubuntu 13.04
[21:02] <Zig> Same mohit
[21:02] <mohit> Zig, it was working on live mode but not after installation,
[21:02] <daftykins> dan123_: you again - did you not get any further?
[21:03] <dan123_> daftykins: didnt have much time to work on it but it looks like port 6566 is now up and running :)
[21:03] <emmet> how do I use openbox?
[21:03] <nabblet> Zig: well this one looks pretty much like your problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2010968&page=5&s=d6b13729bc2023ccab5e7962d45b5f1b
[21:03] <Zig> i got no response from lspci -v grep thing
[21:03] <dan123_> daftykins: I just dont know how to test it
[21:03] <nabblet> emmet: start it ;)
[21:04] <reisio> emmet: you can probably choose it from the cog icon at the login screen
[21:04] <emmet> I have it open
[21:04] <nabblet> emmet: log out and coose it as session
[21:04] <emmet> but its blank and gray
[21:04] <nabblet> emmet: right click on desktop
[21:04] <reisio> emmet: right click
[21:04] <emmet> ah/
[21:04] <reisio> openbox is a window manager, mostly all it does is manage windows
[21:04] <Zig> Thanks for the link, sounds right. Thanks!
[21:05] <nabblet> Zig: i think that link is for ubtunu 12.xx but i think it sould work for you too
[21:05] <emmet> reisio:  yea. Good for limited ram :p
[21:05] <reisio> for lots of things
[21:05] <nabblet> Zig maybe there is even an nicer method in 13
[21:05] <reisio> you could even use it with a full blown DE if you wanted
[21:05] <mohit> Zig, if you able to use your wifi let me know
[21:05] <nabblet> reisio: emmet lxde uses openboc under the hood
[21:05] <reisio> mmhmmm
[21:06] <nabblet> *openbox
[21:06] <emmet> so how can I configure a task bar for my windows...I notice after I min firefox its gone :p
[21:06] <nabblet> emmet: there are very good tutorials on openbox
[21:06] <Dr_Willis> !dock
[21:06] <reisio> emmet: try installing tint2 and running it
[21:06] <nabblet> emmet: i don't know if openbox has it's own task bar
[21:06] <Dr_Willis> roll your own desktop. Pick a WM. pick a panel, or dock if you want, pick a file manager. ;)
[21:07] <emmet> reisio: whats tint2?
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> openbox does not have a panel. you use its menus to launch things.
[21:07] <nabblet> emmet: if you want to try, use fluxbox - it is a child of openbox and brings taskbars with it
[21:07] <reisio> emmet: a task bar
[21:07] <Dr_Willis> fluxbox does have a basic panel i belive
[21:07] <nabblet> emmet: i use fluxbox - it has a taskbar and a panel
[21:08] <raven> how to embed root/ssh passwords into a mount script?
[21:08] <nabblet> so you get a list of windows and the icons for all your stuff
[21:08] <nabblet> raven: for ssh best use key files
[21:08] <nabblet> raven: don't know for root
[21:08] <epsilonorion> This question is mainly in regards to vmware application, but I think it is an ubuntu issue.  After installing Ubuntu in the vm, I first had an issue where my forward and backward mouse buttons won't working.  I added the required additions to the vmx file, however, now I am getting a behavior where anytime the mouse comes to an edge I lose focus of the virtual machine.  Anyone know if there is something in Ubuntu that could be causing
[21:08] <epsilonorion> this?  Maybe an issue with the vmware-tools addition?  If completely unrelated, I will wait to see if anyone on the vmware irc has an idea.
[21:09] <emmet> nabblet:  so apt-get install fluxbox and it should show up at the login screen?
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> emmet:  yes. Most window managers will add a item to that list
[21:09] <nabblet> emmet: yes
[21:09] <emmet> k.
[21:09] <reisio> epsilonorion: why wouldn't you lose focus?
[21:09] <qin> raven: why mounting as root on line fs is good idea?
[21:10] <raven> qin, not necessary
[21:10] <nabblet> emmet: what ubuntu are you using?
[21:12] <epsilonorion> reisio:  the lose focus part is partially expected.  Before the addition to the vmx file, if I moved the mouse towards the edge it would lose focus, but that was fine.  After the addition, moving towards the edge at any time (even full screen), I lose focus.
[21:12] <dan123_> daftykins: do you know by any chance how can I test if te scanner attached to the server works?
[21:12] <emmet> nabblet: 13.04
[21:12] <emmet> nabblet:  I just installed fluxbox im in it now
[21:12] <epsilonorion> Anytime I move towards the edge to click a button on unity, it loses focus.  I then click on the screen to regain focus, my mouse jumps to the edge where I lost focus, I slightly move, and then sometimes lose focus again.  Just annoying just to click a button
[21:13] <reisio> epsilonorion: dunno, might ask #vmware if nobody here knows a solution
[21:13] <epsilonorion> It just seems very glitchy
[21:13] <nabblet> emmet:
[21:13] <epsilonorion> I asked there, but only one person replied who did not seem to know this issue, thanks though
[21:13] <nabblet> apt-cache show fluxbox | grep Version
[21:13] <SupaYoshi> Hey guys, i got something installed thats for minecraft. and it says: Python library not found...
[21:13] <epsilonorion> just seems like a behavior that is not normal since it only acts this way after making the changes to the vmx file
[21:13] <SupaYoshi> However I have python...
[21:14] <SupaYoshi> Atleast as far as i know?
[21:14] <nabblet> emmet: i want to know what version of fluxbox you are running - please give me the output of the command i just told you
[21:14] <emmet> nabblet: lol im in tty irssi
[21:15] <nabblet> emmet: no problem, you can copy paste with middle mouse button
[21:15] <nabblet> emmet: just mark the info you want to copy - don't press anything else
[21:15] <nabblet> emmet: and then middle mous button. if you are on a laptop and don't have middle mouse butten, clicking left and right mousebutton at the same time will have the same effect
[21:16] <emmet> 1.3.2-5
[21:16] <emmet> 1.3.2-4*
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> old school cut and pasteing. ;)
[21:16] <emmet> mouse doesnt even work in tty so..
[21:16] <nabblet> Dr_Willis: it's so much faster...
[21:16] <nabblet> emmet: ah ok :P
[21:16] <Dr_Willis> nabblet:  yep. but you got to have the mouse-dexterity-kung-fu skills. ;)
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> most people dont even realize with the mouse wheel. you CAN click on  it.
[21:17] <nabblet> Dr_Willis: well, on a laptop the mouse is right below the keyboard
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> emmet:  install gpm and the mouse can work in the console.
[21:17] <emmet> ah?
[21:17] <Dr_Willis> !info gpm
[21:17] <nabblet> emmet: ok, if i recall correctly, the folk of arch linux have a very good documentation on fluxbox
[21:18] <emmet> wow
[21:18] <emmet> mouse on tty lol..
[21:18] <emmet> kinda useless thru
[21:18] <nabblet> emmet: all configurations of fluxbox can be done in ~/.fluxbox
[21:18] <Dr_Willis> emmet:  useless? err.. not really. very usefull. Cut/patste. make selections in text editors. use mc and its buttons work..
[21:18] <emmet> fluxbox can be done in ~/.fluxbox
[21:19] <emmet> mc
[21:19] <emmet> ops..
[21:19] <nabblet> emmet: all configuration
[21:19] <reisio> changing wm to get a panel is a bit silly IMO :)
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/fluxbox-config.xml
[21:19] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[21:20] <nabblet> reisio: well going from openbox to fluxbox is not really a change
[21:20] <reisio> ...
[21:20] <reisio> I guess if you don't count changes, it isn't
[21:20]  * emmet runs termial to run firefox....cant find it lol.
[21:21] <nabblet> emmet: you can use F2 for taht
[21:21] <nabblet> *that
[21:21] <nabblet> emmet: the F2 window has tab-completion
[21:21] <Dr_Willis> !find fluxbox-generate_menu
[21:21] <nabblet> emmet: Alt-F2 sorry
[21:22] <emmet> ya. I figured that out :P
[21:22] <nabblet> emmet: my advice: get kupfer
[21:22] <nabblet> emmet: that is was i use. fluxbox + kupfer
[21:22] <Dr_Willis> !info kupfer
[21:22] <emmet> hmm I try it.
[21:23] <emmet> up to try anything
[21:23] <nabblet> emmet: it can find files for you, launch programs and all that. very fast and light weight
[21:23] <nabblet> emmet: currently i run fluxbox and kupfer on an lenovo t43p - 1GB RAM and 1.8 Ghz Pentium CPU
[21:23] <emmet> ah nice.
[21:23] <bazzer> anybody successfully boot 12.04.3 desktop via pxe?
[21:23] <emmet> Im fixing up a computer for a friend.
[21:24] <emmet> old one 512mb ram
[21:24] <nabblet> well, then fluxbox is a good choice
[21:24] <emmet> and yea. then I rembered a long time ago someone said something about openbox
[21:24] <emmet> then you said fluxbox :P
[21:24] <emmet> then kupfer
[21:24] <nabblet> emmet: but don't forget - the main problem will be the applications. firefox and that
[21:24] <emmet> which im looking at them
[21:24] <emmet> firefox runs fine
[21:24] <emmet> it did on debian
[21:24] <emmet> whatever debian runs
[21:25] <FloodBot1> emmet: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:25] <nabblet> well, firefox is quite heavy, but if it does work well, then it's ok
[21:25] <nabblet> emmet: hm, but if your friend is new to linux, maybe give him lxde
[21:25] <nabblet> emmet: it will be near as fast as openbox, but your friend will not be loast
[21:26] <nabblet> *lost
[21:26] <emmet> what do I use for lxde?
[21:26] <emmet> I mean to get it.
[21:26] <nabblet> emmet: lxde is quite easy for everyone coming from windows - things are more familiar than using raw flux/openbox
[21:26] <mrrcp> 512mb?
[21:26] <mrrcp> wow
[21:26] <emmet> haha
[21:26] <nabblet> !lxde
[21:27] <emmet> oh...lubuntu
[21:27] <nabblet> wait
[21:27] <nabblet> stop
[21:27] <emmet> it didnt run that well.
[21:27] <nabblet> oh, you tried it before?
[21:27] <emmet> yea.
[21:27] <emmet> it runs a litte better then unity but it froze a little
[21:27] <mrrcp> do your friend a favor and just throw the box away
[21:27] <mrrcp> get on ebay and get a new one for $25.00
[21:27] <mrrcp> lol
[21:28] <fruco> hi
[21:28] <mrrcp> hiya fruco
[21:28] <nabblet> emmet: you can install lxde alone too
[21:28] <nabblet> emmet: sudo apt-get install lxde
[21:29] <emmet> will try.
[21:29] <emmet> i install "lubuntu-desktop" earlyer
[21:29] <nabblet> emmet: it depends on your friend
[21:29] <nabblet> emmet: is your friend good with computers?
[21:29] <emmet> yes/no
[21:29] <emmet> its a shared computer two friends
[21:30] <nabblet> emmet: how old are they?
[21:30] <nabblet> and what do they want to do with it?
[21:30] <emmet> just music and web.
[21:31] <emmet> maybe mixxx down the road for auto dj. at a club..
[21:31] <emmet> but yea one  I can teach the other one doesnt mess with computers at all.
[21:31] <nabblet> ah ok
[21:32] <nabblet> well, aim for lxde first - there is no point in haveing a fast interface, when they don't know how to use it ;)
[21:32] <nabblet> emmet: as i said, you don't need to get all that lubuntu-desktop stuff
[21:32] <nabblet> emmet: lxde alone will be fine too
[21:33] <nabblet> emmet: what cpu is inside that computer?
[21:33] <emmet> and sempron
[21:34] <nabblet> what frequencey?
[21:34] <emmet> AMD sempron 3---+
[21:34] <bekks> emmet: Which one very exactly?
[21:34] <emmet> 3000+
[21:34] <emmet> 2.00GHz
[21:34] <tomektestowo> I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 with Intel GMA 4500MHD graphics card. Should I install Intel Linux Graphics? There is nothing wrong with current (default, I guess?) drivers but I'm just curious.
[21:35] <Ubuntuuser1> Hello ! I need help regarding window size
[21:35] <bekks> !intel | tomektestowo
[21:35] <bekks> hmm.
[21:35] <tekonivel> oh dear, i wonder what has happened to my Unity; now it's a 2 minute wait every time i open the Dash, and alt-tab takes 1 minute
[21:35] <nabblet> emmet: about the lubuntu - did you install lubunut-desktop or did you download the lubuntu iso image?
[21:35] <Ubuntuuser1> I posted my problem a while ago on AskUbuntu, but noone was able to respond
[21:35] <mrrcp> Ubuntuuser1: ?
[21:36] <mrrcp> what about window size
[21:36] <Ubuntuuser1> for some reason my window shrinked to half of my laptop screen
[21:36] <bekks> Ubuntuuser1: Well, how about starting to ask your actual question?
[21:36] <tomektestowo> bekks: What?
[21:36] <Ubuntuuser1> how can I restore it to normal full window size
[21:36] <bekks> tomektestowo: Did you read the wiki about the intel driver?
[21:36] <emmet> nabblet:  lubuntu-desktop
[21:36] <bekks> Ubuntuuser1: Which window?
[21:37] <Ubuntuuser1> lol
[21:37] <emmet> nabblet: (sorry going back and forth between ttys
[21:37] <nabblet> emmet: np
[21:37] <tomektestowo> bekks: Which wiki do you mean?
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> Ubuntuuser1, try displays
[21:37] <Ubuntuuser1> alright
[21:38] <emmet> brb.
[21:38] <Ubuntuuser1> I can't access to the File, Edit, View , History tabs for that matter it's like blocked
[21:39] <reaver> quit
[21:39] <crypticmofo> i have a question .. im installing ubuntu right now right .. this is what my keyboard looks like http://is.gd/qsnd7q .. i want to disable the trackpad but not the right click / middle button and the mouse .. anyways to do this ?
[21:39] <wilee-nilee> Ubuntuuser1, file, it is in settings
[21:39] <Ubuntuuser1> strangely I was trying to watch some NFL some minutes ago, and the advertisment window was extended to full screen and seem to work
[21:39] <Ubuntuuser1> alright I read you loud and clear
[21:40] <mrrcp> hey crypticmofo hows the twist working out with ubuntu?
[21:40] <crypticmofo> is this possible
[21:40] <crypticmofo> mrrcp:  im installing it right now
[21:40] <mrrcp> i almost bought one last sat
[21:40] <emmet> there
[21:40] <emmet> now this is in fluxbox
[21:40] <emmet> no more tty lol
[21:40] <bekks> crypticmofo: disable your trackpad in the bios.
[21:40] <crypticmofo> oh
[21:40] <nabblet> emmet: ok, as i said. fluxbox alone will be scary for new users
[21:40] <crypticmofo> can i even do that ?
[21:40] <mrrcp> sure
[21:40] <nabblet> emmet: make life easy for them and give them kupfer
[21:40] <bekks> crypticmofo: Wedont know your bios.
[21:41] <mrrcp> you should be able to crypticmofo
[21:41] <nabblet> emmet: you can start kupfer with Ctrl+Space
[21:41] <nabblet> emmet: then you jsut type what you need and kupfer will provide ;)
[21:41] <emmet> how do I start kupfer
[21:41] <emmet> ?
[21:41] <crypticmofo> mrrcp: i will tell you how it goes .. im installing right now / all drivers aren't installed yet
[21:41] <emmet> I installed it
[21:41] <nabblet> emmet: ctrl+space
[21:41] <emmet> is it a desktop?
[21:41] <mrrcp> yea let me know please.
[21:42] <emmet> that does nothing.
[21:42] <tomektestowo> bekks: What wiki do you mean?
[21:42] <mrrcp> Ubuntuuser1: did you get it working?
[21:42] <nabblet> emmet: oh, open a terminal and type kupfer &
[21:42] <bekks> tomektestowo: The official ubuntu support site.
[21:42] <crypticmofo> bekks:  can i get bios info from the termianl ?
[21:42] <bekks> crypticmofo: No.
[21:42] <nabblet> emmet: you will see a red icon when kupfer is started
[21:42] <crypticmofo> meh
[21:43] <emmet>   ah.
[21:43] <crypticmofo>  mrrcp one big thing about this twist it comes with windows 8 aka efi
[21:43] <emmet> so how do I make it start at start up?
[21:43] <tomektestowo> bekks: I was searching by google and found nothing. Even asking at ask.ubuntu.com - no answer. So I'm trying here.
[21:43] <crypticmofo> mrrcp:  i had to disable secure boot and a lot of stuff o_O
[21:43] <nabblet> emmet: in ~/.fluxbox/startup ;)
[21:43] <bekks> crypticmofo: Thats nonsense. Windows 8 isnt known as EFI. They are totally different.
[21:43] <crypticmofo> well this one does
[21:43] <crypticmofo> bekks:  oem
[21:43] <nabblet> emmet: there are three important file in ~/.fluxbox
[21:44] <crypticmofo> i didn't say it was known as efi bekks
[21:44] <crypticmofo> uefi ?
[21:44] <bekks> crypticmofo: Nope. Your computer may support EFI, but that has entirely nothing to do with Windows 8 being EFI.
[21:44] <mrrcp> crypticmofo: yea i had a issue with a dell.. IT was a pain
[21:44] <nabblet> emmet: keys - for keyboard shortcuts, init - for all the taskbar and window stuff and startup - for stuff to autostart
[21:44] <bekks> "0908 234257 < crypticmofo> mrrcp one big thing about this twist it comes with windows 8 aka efi"
[21:44] <crypticmofo> bekks:  well i know if i don't have secure boot on and efi on then windows 8 won't boot
[21:44] <bekks> You actually did say it.
[21:44] <nabblet> emmet: if you endit startup - DON'T FORGET to put a & behind kupfer
[21:44] <crypticmofo> bekks:  if i have legacy on then i can install ubuntu
[21:44] <emmet> exec kupfer  correct?
[21:45] <emmet> exec kupfer &  correct?
[21:45] <tgm4883> *UEFI, not EFI
[21:45] <nabblet> yes
[21:45] <crypticmofo> thanks
[21:45] <bekks> crypticmofo: You can install Ubuntu on UEFI as well.
[21:45] <emmet> lets see
[21:46] <pinPoint> if I install from a PPA that is not yet part of ubuntu, whenever the new version comes in ubuntu ppa will the versions merge?
[21:47] <bekks> pinPoint: The latest version willbe installed, wherever it comes from. It may break dependencies and your system.
[21:47] <wilee-nilee> pinPoint, merge no, nor are ppa's supprted here.
[21:47] <tomektestowo> bekks: searching for "intel" in ubuntu documentation gives me in first link to my question at ask.ubuntu.com. So it's pointless...
[21:48] <bekks> tomektestowo: So whats the specific issue?
[21:48] <martinolsansky> hello, will TLP be updated to saucy once it is released?
[21:49] <bekks> martinolsansky: Whats TLP?
[21:49] <pinPoint> wilee-nilee: but ppa's are a part of ubuntu no?
[21:49] <bekks> pinPoint: No.
[21:49]  * pinPoint is confused.
[21:49] <pinPoint> ok
[21:49] <tomektestowo> Should I install this drivers or no? I'm just curoius if it will give better performance than installed default one
[21:49] <tomektestowo> beks:
[21:49] <emmet> hmmm...lxde is pretty clean
[21:49] <nabblet> emmet: yes
[21:49] <emmet> and seems to run okay.
[21:49] <Ubuntuuser1> I got to say this is really annoying, is anyone competent enough here to answer simple question about Ubuntu bug
[21:49] <SchrodingersScat> pinPoint: ppa is some random person giving you software
[21:49] <martinolsansky> bekks: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/improve-power-usage-battery-life-in.html
[21:49] <nabblet> emmet: i think it is more suitable for "non linux natives"
[21:49] <mrrcp> Ubuntuuser1:
[21:50] <emmet> (I was using lubuntu-desktop earlyer...thats slow on this machine)
[21:50] <mrrcp> did you check your display config
[21:50] <bekks> tomektestowo: No one can tell you yes or no. It is your choice. Installation will most likely be successful when you have the hardware supported by the driver you want to install.
[21:50] <nabblet> emmet: in my experience, lxde + ubuntu > lubuntu
[21:50] <emmet> nabblet: agreed
[21:50] <pinPoint> SchrodingersScat: so PPA, will not link up with ubuntu? looking at apache 2.4
[21:50] <Ubuntuuser1> why am I having my window only half-screen size and can not access the tool tab when browsing on the Net
[21:50] <Ubuntuuser1> why this appeared ?
[21:50] <martinolsansky> pinPoint: what are you trying to do?
[21:50] <tgm4883> pinPoint, your question "link up" doesn't make sense
[21:50] <tomektestowo> bekks: Ok, thank you.
[21:50] <SchrodingersScat> pinPoint: it's something you add at your own discretion, as bekks said.
[21:50] <tomektestowo> exit
[21:50] <wilee-nilee> Ubuntuuser1, You have given no link to your askubuntu and have you heard of xrandr
[21:50] <tomektestowo> !exit
[21:50] <Ubuntuuser1> I always update the OS
[21:50] <tomektestowo> !quit
[21:50] <nabblet> emmet: althugh... fluxbox and kupfer is pretty mighty :D also, there is crunchbang http://crunchbang.org/about
[21:51] <pinPoint> ok
[21:51] <nabblet> emmet: just to give you _moar_ choice ;)
[21:51] <tomektestowo> How to quit? :p
[21:51] <Ubuntuuser1> minute I'll give you the link
[21:51] <tgm4883> tomektestowo, /quit
[21:51] <bekks> tomektestowo: "/quit"
[21:51] <tomektestowo> omg, damn irc, thanks ;d
[21:51] <nabblet> emmet: stay with ubuntu + lxde
[21:51] <nabblet> emmet: and see if mixxx can run at usable spped
[21:51] <nabblet> *speed
[21:52] <emmet> nabblet:  one sec have to install mixxx
[21:52] <emmet> but tbh I was trying to use it earlyer....couldnt get it to work :P
[21:52] <nabblet> emmet: if they just need something to play back music use clementine
[21:52] <emmet> im used to sam broadcaster
[21:52] <nabblet> emmet: why mixxx?
[21:52] <emmet> I wanted a virtual dj table.
[21:52] <emmet> autodj etc.
[21:52] <nabblet> ah ok :P
[21:53] <emmet> anything else I could use?
[21:53] <emmet> idjc?
[21:53] <nabblet> i hope that works on such low specs
[21:53] <emmet> i think.
[21:53] <nabblet> emmet: i have no experience in such things
[21:53] <emmet> ah.
[21:53] <nabblet> emmet: i know that there is a hand full of software, mixxx being one of them
[21:53] <emmet> mixxx I couldnt get the deck to play some reason :P
[21:53] <crypticmofo> bekks:  thanks .. a little google love helped me .. a video tut http://is.gd/ONbYB9 on how to disable my touchpad in the bios
[21:54] <crypticmofo> don't we all love google ?
[21:54] <mrrcp> yep
[21:54] <emmet> the only dj software I used in the past is sam broadcaster on windows a long time ago.
[21:54] <crypticmofo> s/little/lot/
[21:54] <bekks> crypticmofo: I never google for video tutorials - I hat'em. :)
[21:55] <crypticmofo> lol
[21:55] <nabblet> emmet: i think there is also something with bpm in its name
[21:55] <Ubuntuuser1> Here You are http://askubuntu.com/questions/341700/how-to-resize-my-window-to-normal-full-screen-again
[21:55] <nabblet> emmet: use the software center to search
[21:56] <Ubuntuuser1> the message was checked and "corrected" for grammar errors...
[21:56] <emmet> ermmm wow mp3 plugins arent installed :P
[21:56] <dan123_> what software can I use in a client to scan with a scanner attached to a server over the network?
[21:57] <wilee-nilee> Ubuntuuser1, Take a look here in the xrandr info. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[21:57] <Ubuntuuser1> OK will do, TY
[21:57] <downloader> I have no volume applet in the upper right "taskbar". How do I get it back?
[21:57] <downloader> I can't right-click on the taskbar
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> downloader, what desktop, what ubuntu release?
[21:58] <downloader> gnome, 13.04
[21:58] <downloader> wilee-nilee: ^
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> downloader, gnome underpins multiple desktops
[21:59] <downloader> wilee-nilee: What is an example of a desktop?
[21:59] <wilee-nilee> unity, the gnome shell, the fallback...etc
[21:59] <downloader> wilee-nilee: unit
[21:59] <downloader> unity
[21:59] <Ubuntuuser1> I have it.. but this isn't solution I am not into programming
[21:59] <wilee-nilee> downloader, any background on it disappearing?
[21:59] <mrrcp> Ubuntuuser1: your going to need to try that
[22:00] <Ubuntuuser1> I just want to have full screen size application window back running
[22:00] <mrrcp> have you restarted?
[22:00] <wilee-nilee> Ubuntuuser1, Neither am I, if you want to fix this, two things don't complain when we don't hold your hand and use the tools we give you.
[22:00] <downloader> wilee-nilee: I installed 64-bit over my 32-bit installation, kept home directory. I also run xmonad for another user if that matters
[22:01] <flintstone> I edit my resolv.conf with other dns ips and when my pc restarts it reverts to the loopback interface <IP_ADDRESS> ? why and how can I stop it from writing over my changes?
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> downloader, Not sure on that.
[22:01] <Ubuntuuser1> action-reaction
[22:01] <Ubuntuuser1> why should I read if You don't know the answer
[22:02] <tgm4883> flintstone, http://askubuntu.com/a/157192/2159
[22:02] <flintstone> ok tnx
[22:02] <tgm4883> flintstone, although really you should do it in network manager
[22:02] <Ubuntuuser1> anyway if you can't solve this simple request
[22:02] <Ubuntuuser1> ...
[22:02] <tgm4883> Ubuntuuser1, seriously?
[22:02] <Ubuntuuser1> btw F11 button won't do it
[22:02] <mrrcp> Ubuntuuser1: You need to follow the steps
[22:03] <flintstone> i have made the changes in network manager also, every time my pc restarts it overwrites my nameserver back to <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:03] <Ubuntuuser1> it shouldn't be that time consuming
[22:04] <tgm4883> Ubuntuuser1, does the application support full screen?
[22:06] <mrrcp> heh
[22:06] <tomasso> whats the best remote desktop for ubuntu? i tried teamviewer but fails when doing incoming connections, and seems bad quality since it uses wine.. trying rdp server.. but i connect from my android and the screen is black and dont see anything
[22:07] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[22:07] <sam113101> ENJOY THE SHOW
[22:09] <ddssc> anyone got hdmi out working with optimus setup?
[22:11] <Discordian93> Hello
[22:11] <Discordian93> I need some help
[22:11] <Discordian93> I installed the program "aseprite" but it can't save files for some reason
[22:12] <Discordian93> it's from the official repo, it's bugged, how can i contact the mantainer of a package?
[22:12] <columb> I hate dealing with drivers. Default - high compiz cpu usage (no luck with solutions from google). Proprietary - fails to VESA after I tried my SSD on other machine. Now it's even keep falling from VESA to gallium. High cpu, visual bugs. :(
[22:13] <tgm4883> Discordian93, have you tried filing a bug
[22:13] <Discordian93> haven't had a single problem with drivers myself, been running this machine with ubuntu for almost two years and nvidia-altest works fine
[22:14] <Discordian93> how do i file a bug?
[22:14] <tgm4883> Discordian93, "ubuntu-bug aseprite"
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> !bug
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> !info aseprite
[22:14] <Discordian93> okay, didn't know that! it's good to know!
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> id make sure its not somthing else going on with it. and prove its an actual bug.
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> seems like a rather obvious issue
[22:16] <Discordian93> I dunno, I have tried saving on all different file formats, different resolutions, different sprites...
[22:16] <Discordian93> no way to save anything
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> err. that app opens a little bitty window here. with half the menu utems not even shown.
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> egads how old is aseprite. It looks like somthing from the  70's
[22:16] <Discordian93> you can fullscreen it
[22:16] <Discordian93> it's retro
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> i cant get it to fullscreen or even resize
[22:16] <Discordian93> I just want a quick tool to make some sprites to play with html5 game engines
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> the app is totally useless here.
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> Find more information in ASEPRITE web site: http://www.aseprite.org/
[22:18] <columb> Tried to install drivers according  BinaryHowTo/ati on ubuntu wiki. Black screen on boot. After restoring old xorg.conf system uses gallium.
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> there we go.. got a useable window with --> aseprite  -resolution 600x800x8
[22:19] <Discordian93> can you save your work in aseprite?
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> Discordian93:  yes i was able to save
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> i am on 13.10 however
[22:20] <Discordian93> I am too
[22:20] <Discordian93> wait
[22:20] <Discordian93> 13.10?
[22:20] <Discordian93> beta?
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> aseprite  --help
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> ASEPRITE v0.9.5 | Allegro Sprite Editor | A pixel art program
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> Yes. 13.10 is in testing
[22:20] <Discordian93> might be worth trying out
[22:20] <Dr_Willis> !info aseprite
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> looks like the same version is in 13.04
[22:21] <Discordian93> well
[22:21] <Discordian93> I don't know what the problem could possibly be, then
[22:22] <dan123_> hello, I installed sane and configured port 6566 to scan over the network. The client is not detecting the scanner and when I do a telnet ip_server 6566 the connection is closed almost immediately. Any clue on what can I do?
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> run it from terminal look for error messages
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> Discordian93:  you are saveing the stuff to your home?  ;) the file manager dialog in that app is a bit nasty
[22:23] <Discordian93> yes I'm saving it to home/images
[22:23] <Discordian93> wellm, home/Imágenes
[22:23] <Discordian93> maybe it can't handle spanish?
[22:24] <Dr_Willis> i just saved it to my home directory
[22:25] <Discordian93> okayy
[22:25] <Discordian93> I was able to save it in my home
[22:25] <Discordian93> weird
[22:25] <Discordian93> it doesn't work in the images folder
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> it dosent like UTF filename/unicode stuff
[22:25] <Dr_Willis> aparently
[22:25] <Discordian93> should still report a bug
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> given how weirdly that app seems to be coded.. :) good luck.
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> id mention it at the apps homepage.
[22:26] <Discordian93> i ahve sent them a tweet
[22:27] <Discordian93> and now i realize i know what unicode is. If you had spat that at me a year ago, i would have said, wtf is utf/unicode man? I am becoming nerdier since I started programming
[22:28] <fruco> fanda?
[22:28] <Dr_Willis> fruco:  huh?
[22:28] <fruco> ps?
[22:29] <asafegous> I updated my ubuntu/gnome to 13.04 and cairo dock is showing black wallpaper
[22:29] <asafegous> Sign in and any other session is fine
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> cairo dock needs compositing enabled.  What window manager are you having the issue with?
[22:30] <asafegous> Winfow manager?
[22:30] <asafegous> Window
[22:30] <Dr_Willis> Yes. the Window manager you using has to have the compositing feature for the transparency effects to work
[22:31] <asafegous> How do I change this
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing_window_manager
[22:31] <Dr_Willis> change what Exactly? give us details as to whats happening and when.
[22:32] <asafegous> I upgraded today and now no wallpaper
[22:32] <asafegous> Black
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> so you are meaning to say the 'cairo dock' session from Lightdm , is not showing the wallpaper?
[22:33] <chocolatemousse> morning ubuntu support channel
[22:33] <chocolatemousse> evening
[22:33] <chocolatemousse> afternoon :P
[22:33] <asafegous> yup
[22:33] <Dr_Willis> you can run cairo dock on any desktop session if you wanted to. I think it also adds in some minimal desktop that just runs the dock. I never use that session.
[22:34] <chocolatemousse> I had a really great idea for the support channel - an irc plugin for support tickets
[22:34] <chocolatemousse> So we can see who needs help with what and is being helped by whom
[22:34] <asafegous> Really
[22:34] <tgm4883> chocolatemousse, OT, and I'm not sure why that would be a good thing
[22:35] <MonkeyDust> chocolatemousse  ubuntu help forums do exist
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> chocolatemousse:  and given the nature of the people in this room. many of us  have to leave with out a moments notice.
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> chocolatemousse:  and askubuntu.com is also very handy
[22:35] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis: exactly
[22:35] <Dr_Willis> exactly what?
[22:35] <green_geeky_dude> lol
[22:36]  * Dr_Willis ends up playing 20 questions more then he helps it seems at times..
[22:37] <Dr_Willis> chocolatemousse:  its also best to not PM people without asking. I tend to totally ignore most pm's
[22:38] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis: mm sorry
[22:38] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, never come across that bit of advice before
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> when you get 1000+ people in a support room and the helopers can vanish at a moments notice in the middle of helping.. You really dont want to have to repeate everything to a new helper
[22:39] <Dr_Willis> Plus theres often differances/mistakes made that others can catch
[22:39] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, well exactly
[22:39] <Vin0> I updated my video card drivers and now it's booting me into a command line. how do i figure out where the problem is?
[22:40] <chocolatemousse> Again these are very good reasons to have ticketed irc support
[22:40] <Skunk8> Is this just a support channel?
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> chocolatemousse:  i dont see what a ticket will give us.. really.
[22:40] <Dr_Willis> Skunk8:  yes basically.
[22:40] <chocolatemousse> Skunk8: yes
[22:40] <MonkeyDust> Skunk8  it is
[22:40] <Skunk8> I see.
[22:41] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, well, you obviously don't agree, but you've been helpful just the same :D
[22:41] <Skunk8> Is there an Ubuntu discussion channel? General chat?
[22:41] <chocolatemousse> Skunk8: #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:41] <MonkeyDust> chocolatemousse  i guess professional, paid suport has what you suggest here
[22:41] <Skunk8> Thank you.
[22:41] <chocolatemousse> MonkeyDust, Oh, does a system like I suggest already exist in the paid support?
[22:42] <Dr_Willis> ive never really figured out what 'paid support' does :)  are there people actually PAYING support fees to be told how to 'format a usb flash drive' or 'erase a cd-rw' and so forth? ;)
[22:42] <chocolatemousse> MonkeyDust, not general paid support, mind, Ubuntu paid support
[22:42] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, well they pay someone presumably at Ubuntu I imagine to be their computer gremlin
[22:42] <MonkeyDust> chocolatemousse  well, yes, i guess so
[22:43] <chocolatemousse> I.e. you or I can safely never come back to this channel if we don't want to
[22:43] <chocolatemousse> The Paid people can't.
[22:44] <chocolatemousse> But yeah I imagine they are basically paying for the free stuff you can get in here anyways.
[22:44] <MonkeyDust> chocolatemousse  i guess every helpdesk or service has such ticketing system
[22:44] <MonkeyDust> service desk*
[22:44] <dtcrshr> whats the fastest / easy way to get back the grub after a windows install in a double system pc?
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> dtcrshr:  live cd + that boot-repair tool can be handy
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> dtcrshr:  or the boot-repair live cd. saves a step or 2
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> !boot-repair
[22:44] <chocolatemousse> Also in here, you get random, uncredentialed people helping out, whereas with paid support they are official Ubuntu, so they presumably have some verified skills
[22:44] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[22:45] <dtcrshr> thanks Dr_Willis ill try the boot repair cd to a usb stick
[22:45] <MonkeyDust> chocolatemousse  that's why they're professional, they make a living out of it, we're just volunteers, we do this for fun
[22:45] <Dr_Willis> I have to 2onder what skills they would need for some of the amazingly obscure, obtuse, and downright WEIRD questions i see in here on a given day. ;)
[22:45] <chocolatemousse> MonkeyDust, exactly :) Although I don't think having tools to make our lives as volunteers easier is a bad thing.
[22:46] <Dr_Willis> I belive we spent most of 3 hrs last night in here - helping a guy repartion and format a 4gb usb flash drive. ;)
[22:46] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis: lots and lots of patience.  Not 'format a usb disk'
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> dtcrshr:  so use a live cd you allready have.
[22:47] <dtcrshr> I was wondering a 2mb maybe
[22:47] <dtcrshr> yeah.. ill do that thanks
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> hopefully boot-repair will get on the default desktop cd someday soon
[22:47] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, right, but does that 'million' dollar machine run linux?
[22:47] <Dr_Willis> that boot-repair cd is a 32bit/64bit cd. and can also do some other tasks
[22:48] <chocolatemousse> And is he just reading a manual someone else wrote ;)
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> chocolatemousse:  Im talking about Million Doller CNC machineing machines.. Not pc's
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> one 'crash' at work = 80,000$ in parts to fix.
[22:48] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis: well a bit off topic, but those CNC machines presumably have some embedded systems in them, some of which might be running embedded linux
[22:48] <dtcrshr> Dr_Willis: we have some sewing industrial machines here, mostly running embeded java / linux mashups
[22:49] <dtcrshr> im on brasil
[22:49] <Dr_Willis> 'support' was the guy showing us how to replace the Huge bit that was broken. and why it crashed in the first place.
[22:49] <Dr_Willis> but i bet we have a support 'contract' with the company that made the machine
[22:49] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis: may have some commercial systems in them as well, but again that amounts to someone reading someone else's manual and the FIXME routines located theirin.
[22:49] <tgm4883> Dr_Willis, I'd imagine that paid ubuntu support is similar. eg. I've got some certified ubuntu hardware and this supported app keeps crashing
[22:50] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, I mean, sheesh, you offer better support than most Indian Call-Centers, and you do it for free.
[22:50] <Dr_Willis> so i bet 99% of the questions in here would not be supported. because theya re not on the list of apps or hardware.
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> chocolatemousse:  whats funny.. im in here giving 'support' WHile im at work most of the time..  (on standby to fix anything the breaks/crashes) ;P
[22:51] <tgm4883> Dr_Willis, probably
[22:51] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, whatever works :)
[22:52] <lone> hey
[22:53] <b166er> hello
[22:55] <b166er> does canonical have a room?
[22:55] <lone> I've downloaded multibootusb_6.4-1_all.deb and trying to install it but ubuntu software center show an error 'Dependency is not satisfiable:gambas3-runtime(>=3.0.90)' what can I do?
[22:55] <raub> tgm4883: AFAIK that is how the Redhat Support for their enterprise server works. Depending what you have that is not working, they will build a patch as needed. I was told of times they wrote drivers for their commercial customers before
[22:55] <lone> help me.
[22:55] <raub> I assume canonical commercial support is right up to that level
[22:56] <tgm4883> raub, I would assume so as well
[22:56] <b166er> does anyone know how I can donate to canonical
[22:56] <tgm4883> b166er, I think there are donation links on the download page
[22:56] <raub> lone: If you are getting a .deb, expect dependency issues
[22:57] <lone> @raub so how can i install it?
[22:57] <b166er> I tried the donate page before you download the desktop version of ubuntu. but when I click pay with paypal. a unauthorize message on their website appears
[22:57] <raub> FInd all the packages it depends on and install them
[22:57] <lone> how? @raub
[22:58] <raub> lone: is that package available through one of the ubuntu repositories?
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> installing a .deb ? use 'sudo dpkg -i'  or 'sudo gdebi foo.deb'  and the gedbi app SHOULD install all needed deps
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> lone:  i found that multiboot tool.. handy. but egads the dependencies it pulls in when installed..
[22:59] <raub> Dr_Willis: and here I am thinking a .deb is like a rpm ;)
[22:59] <lone> i've downloaded it from sourceforge.net
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> a deb is similer to a rpm
[22:59] <raub> Sounds like dpkg is much fancier than rpm
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> but most of the time you use a tool like 'gdebi' to install the rpm.  not the lower level 'dpkg -i'
[22:59] <raub> lone: follow what Dr_Willis said
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> dpkg is a basic  low level tool.  gdebi and the other package tools handle the dependencies
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> if you just double click on the .deb the software center is supposed to ask/install/ and grab the dependencies also
[23:00] <b166er> so. opinion. openoffice or libreoffice?
[23:00] <b166er> just for compatibility with MS
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> openoffice is basically dead as far as i know
[23:01] <TM26> Hey , some one can tellme , if i can install ubuntu  13.10 in a partition on mi disk with 15 gib ?????
[23:01] <raub> Oh ok. On a somewhat related topic, canonical/ubuntu use jenkins, right?
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> TM26:  you should be able to.
[23:01] <Dr_Willis> i got 13.10 running from a 16gb USB flash drive
[23:01] <b166er> openoffice dead? I just installed 4.0
[23:01] <raub> b166er: AFAIK openoffice is on the way out. THey moved all the stuff to libre
[23:01] <b166er> pewp
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> b166er:  I rarely hear openoffice mentioned any more. its all libreoffice
[23:02] <raub> Some issue with Oracle (as usual) being you-know-what
[23:02] <b166er> well. good I couldnt figure out how to create desktop icons for openoffice anyway
[23:02] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, anyways if you don't mind answering what are you running on all day mostly then? Windows XP? Or Some RedHat box?
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> yet another case of  a big company stabbing a project in the back
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> chocolatemousse:  most of the time.. android. ;)
[23:02]  * raub is pissed with what Oracle did to Solaris and SUn
[23:02] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, makes sense I guess
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> chocolatemousse:  Im at work - on my android tablet most of the time. with an occasional ssh into the home box. I got a netbook with 13.10 at work i use sometimes
[23:03] <bl4ckdu5t> how can I view hidden folders(not ignoring entries with .) with nautilus?
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> bl4ckdu5t:  ctrl-h. its in themenus
[23:03] <TM26> Dr_Willis thanks !!! Does not crash ????
[23:03] <chocolatemousse> b166er, Dr_Willis OpenOffice is not very popular, but apparently Apache is actually developing on it - I hear its no longer got much in common (besides UI/file support) with the old OO
[23:04] <bl4ckdu5t> Dr_Willis: ok
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> all my word processing these days i do in Abiword
[23:04] <chocolatemousse> b166er, so its kinda like the KOffice suite or Calligra or something
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[23:04] <chocolatemousse> Or yeah Abiword
[23:04] <TM26> Dr_Willis and i can move /home after install the system
[23:04] <Dr_Willis> TM26:  if you got the skills.. yes. thats rather eays to do
[23:04] <chocolatemousse> Small user base, not much of a community - but that's mostly hearsay.
[23:05] <raub> Which reminds me: does ubuntu still get pissy if you move var from / to its own partiion down the line?
[23:05] <b166er> well. back to libreoffrice for the wife then
[23:05] <TM26> Dr_Willis you know some tutorials to see and follow the steps ????
[23:05] <reisio> raub: did it ever?
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> raub:  that might be part of the reason theres  the /run/ stuff now. but i havent really read much up on it.
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> TM26:  ive used linux so long.. its a trivial task to me. ;P
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> TM26:  havent needed a tutorial for such a basic thing in years
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> !movehome
[23:06] <raub> reisio: the bug for that is still open. Was for 10.04 originally
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> mount the new location to /home2/  copy home to home2, edit fstab to point to the right place. renameing it home. reboot ;)
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> TM26:  you could even have your /home/ split across differnt partions, or disks if you wanted to. ;) My main user has his own home on the ssd . everyone else is on the slower hd.
[23:07] <reisio> raub: weird
[23:07] <raub> Dr_Willis: I would add to do it in recovery/single user mode
[23:08] <raub> reisio: it bit us royally when we started using lvm
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> I am my only user logged in most of the time. ;) unless the wife is on the Plex media server.
[23:08] <raub> Dr_Willis: so there is yet another new directory in /. Lovely
[23:08] <reisio> raub: what do you use lvm for? :)
[23:09] <Dr_Willis> raub:  use of /run/ was supposed to allow for moveing other things to their own partions or somthing.. i cant recall where i read about it
[23:10] <tgm4883> raub, I've gotta ask, who cares?
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> raub: https://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/RunDirectory
[23:11] <raub> reisio: much easier to partition your HD using LVM. ext4 does not like being scaled down like jfs, buthey
[23:11] <raub> tgm4883: about?
[23:11] <reisio> tgm4883: people who've already experienced it working without such things? :)
[23:11] <reisio> raub: yeah, but why would you need to scale it
[23:11] <Dr_Willis>   /run is a new cross-distribution location for the storage of transient state files
[23:11] <lone> can i install tar.gz on ubuntu 12.04
[23:11] <lone> ?
[23:11] <tgm4883> raub, who cares about a new directory in /
[23:11] <reisio> lone: probably, but why?
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> lone:  totally depends on whats IN the archive. tha tis just an archive..
[23:12] <lone> oh.
[23:12] <xangua> lone if you are still wanting to install multisystem here are the instrucctions to add their repository http://liveusb.info/dotclear/index.php?pages/install
[23:12] <TM26> Dr_willis ,... O !!!! Hey then if i can install on a 15 gb partition ... I have no problems with /var /usr to install more program ???
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> TM26:  if you got the space.. why split everything up?
[23:12] <fanda5> hi
[23:12] <raub> tgm4883: I do not partion my linux boxes shoving everything in /, so it matters to me
[23:12] <xangua> Méthode N° 1-Bis (base Ubuntu/Debian) lone
[23:13] <HAMSHAMA> wat is a linucks
[23:13] <tgm4883> raub, so then 1 user
[23:13] <b166er> thanks for the info guys.
[23:13] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis: how to add to the factoid database?
[23:13] <chocolatemousse> '/run' should probably be in there
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> chocolatemousse:  hmm. i forget..  try !factoid
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> most people dont even notice the /run/ changes ;)
[23:13] <raub> tgm4883: exactly
[23:14] <tgm4883> raub, ok, just wanted to know
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> Making the /run directory available brings us a step closer to the point where it is possible to use the system normally with the root filesystem mounted read-only, without requiring any clunky workarounds such as aufs/unionfs overlays.
[23:14] <TM26> Dr_willis i detect that my system crash with compiz , and thats what i want to split , to recover the system or reinstall without losing files !!!! :)
[23:14] <JetDog> Hi all, would anyone know off hand if the nvidia proprietary driver can switch off the nvidia card with vga_switcheroo when used with hybrid graphics?
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> TM26:  you can boot to the text/console and try to fix things
[23:14] <chocolatemousse> A factoid is a factoid, regardless of popularity. ;)
[23:15] <raub> Dr_Willis: that is good; I already run /boot and /usr read only
[23:15] <raub> Would like to have root read only too
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> raub:  and Now you know why they have gone the /run/ route.
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> its been in Ubuntu since 11.10 it seems
[23:15] <raub> even if, as tgm4883 pointed out, I am the only person who cares about that ;)
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/57297/why-has-var-run-been-migrated-to-run
[23:16] <chocolatemousse> Ah well I cannot find the factoid login - I'd be happy just to push something to a git repo, but no dice, they've hidden the information
[23:16] <TM26> Dr_willis :( no it says that i have no permision and dont even star , and system cant mont / and ask me to mount manualy
[23:16] <TM26> Hajaja mount ....
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> TM26:  if you gie the channel more details - i bet they can help you
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> unless the system is totally broken. and compiz wouldent do that
[23:17] <Nep[Tablet]> ... I need a bit of help here.
[23:17] <Henix_Aurorus> My bad, wrong nick
[23:18] <Henix_Aurorus> *ahem*
[23:18] <Henix_Aurorus> As I was saying
[23:18] <Henix_Aurorus> I need a bit of help with ndiswrapper
[23:18] <TM26> Dr_Willis  im using tails , and i open the Hdd and i think i change the permision ...
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> TM26:  who knows what all you messed up then. ;)
[23:19] <TM26> But also somebody tell me that my system crash ...and i got to make a new partition with system and home separately
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> unless its totally busted. You should be able to get to your files with a live cd and back the,m up somewhere.
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> but do what you want. ;)
[23:20] <Henix_Aurorus> Basically, I'm trying to install drivers for my NETGEAR WG311v3 network card, and I've done everything correctly (all the way up to juggling OSes probably fifty times), but when I try actually getting the system to use the drivers, it returns "module ndiswrapper not found"
[23:21] <Henix_Aurorus> Is there something I'm doing wrong?
[23:21] <lone> how to format a usb on ubuntu 12.04
[23:22] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, well looks like I have to find someone with a special status, but the wiki doesn't even make it clear if that's a wiki status or an irc one ;)
[23:22] <chocolatemousse> Or even which wiki/irc
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> lone:  gparted. or mkfs.whatever as needed
[23:22] <raub> Henix_Aurorus: do you need to use dniswrapper?
[23:22] <Henix_Aurorus> Lone: Disk Utility is what you need
[23:22] <Henix_Aurorus> Raub: yes
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> chocolatemousse:  theres the bots channel. :) or #ubuntu-ops that may know
[23:22] <raub> lone: or parted/gparted/fdisk
[23:23] <Henix_Aurorus> My network is WPA2, so I have to use the original drivers
[23:23] <raub> Isn't there a link for partitoning?
[23:23] <chocolatemousse> Dr_Willis, saved for future reference, too much of a bother right now
[23:25] <raub> Henix_Aurorus: there is not package for ndiswrapper?
[23:25] <raub> s/not/no/
[23:25] <lone> Disk Utility says 'The Device is Busy'. what to do?
[23:25] <Henix_Aurorus> There is, I already installed it
[23:25] <Henix_Aurorus> Which is why I'm confused
[23:26] <raub> try to modprobe it then
[23:26] <chocolatemousse> paste of Ubuntu info dump: http://pastebin.com/UQzd9ZDU
[23:26] <chocolatemousse> In case anyone's interested
[23:26] <chocolatemousse> Ubuntu Ubottu*
[23:26] <Henix_Aurorus> The thing is I've done that like a million times :/
[23:27] <xangua> lone: unmount it
[23:27] <Henix_Aurorus> Because as was just demonstrated, it says he same thing
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> lone:  unmount the filesystem befor you work on it. (you may need to unmount it via the command line)
[23:27] <Dr_Willis> lone:  close out all apps accessing the filesystem also
[23:27] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, I've fixed wifi drivers by recompiling the source, and I'm telling you know if you want any hope of getting this fixed, you need to be a LOT more specific
[23:28] <chocolatemousse> s/know/now/
[23:28] <raub> I think if he is using gparted he can unmount/whatever from there
[23:28] <chocolatemousse> Version numbers, card type, linux kernel version
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> gparted may fail to unmount. if an app is accessing the filesystem
[23:28] <lone> how to unmount via command line?
[23:28] <raub> lsof should help then
[23:29] <TM26> Dr_willis jahahahaha  yrah i think i will reinstall all system ... And with the help you give me well its al solved !!!
[23:29] <Henix_Aurorus> Ubuntu 12.04, WG311v3 card, ndiswrapper is 1.57
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> lone:  sudo umount /dev/sdXX
[23:29] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, Generally, if there's a wifi issue and ndiswrapper A) you're doing it wrong B) ndiswrapper isn't going to work C) you need to find the linux drivers for your card
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> lone:  mount command will show whats mounted where
[23:29] <raub> chocolatemousse: I think his card uses the Marvell 88w8335 Chipset
[23:30] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, Ok, have you looked online for 'linux drivers  WG311v3' ?
[23:30] <Henix_Aurorus> Yes, that
[23:30] <chocolatemousse> raub: ok thans
[23:30] <TM26> Dr_willia there are commands to purge obsolet packages  right ????
[23:30] <raub> Don't know what else uses it
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> TM26:  theres apt-get auto-remove
[23:30] <TM26> Dr_willis haja thanks for you help !!!!!!
[23:31] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, have you already tried doing something like this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/marvell-88w8335-chipset-netgear-wg311-pcicard-driver/ ?
[23:32] <Henix_Aurorus> Chocolatemousse: that's more or less what I've been doing, and it works up to the modprobe
[23:33] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, ok, looking at that page there are 4 drivers you may have to try, the original one they ask you to get on that page is missing
[23:33] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, ok so 'ndiswrapper -l' outputs the same thing as in that guide?
[23:33] <Henix_Aurorus> Yes
[23:34] <chocolatemousse> What is the problem with the sudo modprobe ndiswrapper?
[23:34] <Henix_Aurorus> It returns a "module not found" error
[23:35] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus run 'dpkg -l ndiswrapper*' and 'uname -r' for me
[23:35] <xangua> Henix_Aurorus: did you select the inf file from the windows XP drivers¿
[23:36] <chocolatemousse> s/run/run the output/
[23:36] <Henix_Aurorus> One moment
[23:36] <Henix_Aurorus> And yes xangua I did
[23:36] <Impossible> how do i see what processes are running
[23:36] <raub> Impossible: ps -aux is a good place to start
[23:37] <Impossible> how do i kill a process
[23:37] <chocolatemousse> Impossible: easiest way 'killall process'
[23:37] <chocolatemousse> Impossible: reliable way 'sudo kill -kill pidofprocess'
[23:37] <chocolatemousse> where pidofprocess is a number
[23:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> heyo, I have a number of *.jar files distributed in a number of folders; I'm trying to use the find command to copy them to the root folder of the tree; the command I'm currently using is find . -iname "*.jar" | xargs cp .; this is not doing the trick; any suggestions?
[23:37] <raub> chocolatemousse: I was going to say shout really loud, but you replied first
[23:38] <Impossible> thanks chocolatemousse
[23:38] <Henix_Aurorus> Okay so
[23:38] <pythonuklearner> Where to direct quickly questions when the python channel doesn't really care?
[23:38] <Henix_Aurorus> The dpkg -l spits out a bunch of "no package" lines
[23:38] <chocolatemousse> pythonuklearner /dev/null :P
[23:38] <chocolatemousse> JK
[23:39] <raub> ntzrmtthihu777: get rid of the pipe part and see if find gives back what you want
[23:39] <Henix_Aurorus> And uname -r returns 3.8.0-29-generic
[23:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> nevermind,lol. I figured it out with the -exec option.
[23:39] <raub> then add pipe
[23:39] <chocolatemousse> pythonuklearner: that or rtfm
[23:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> raub: yes, it gave me exactly what I wanted.
[23:39] <raub> ntzrmtthihu777: nice
[23:39] <chocolatemousse> pythonuklearner: and lastly, reword your question ;)
[23:39] <chocolatemousse> pythonuklearner: #lifeadvice
[23:39] <pythonuklearner> chocolatemousse: Thanks :) I'm not struggling with the instructions; I can't get the media player plugin to work or find documentation about it
[23:40] <chocolatemousse> pythonkuklearner: yeah that's not a python question
[23:40] <chocolatemousse> They wouldn't care aboutit
[23:40] <pythonuklearner> chocolatemousse: I'm having a hard time finding somebody that does lol
[23:40] <chocolatemousse> pythonuklearn: find which media player plugin it is, then maybe they might be able to help, if they know anything
[23:41] <Henix_Aurorus> Chocolatemousse
[23:41] <Henix_Aurorus> The dpkg -l spits out a bunch of "no package" lines
[23:41] <Henix_Aurorus> And uname -r returns 3.8.0-29-generic
[23:41] <Henix_Aurorus> In case you missed it
[23:42] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus: change to a different directory and re-run that dpkg -l command
[23:42] <Henix_Aurorus> Does it matter which directory?
[23:42] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, you're probably in ~/Downloads, amiright?
[23:42] <Henix_Aurorus> Actually my home folder
[23:42] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, the command gets confused if it finds a file in the current directory with the same name
[23:42] <Henix_Aurorus> Ohhhh
[23:43] <chocolatemousse> So: 'mkdir ~/emptydirectory; dpkg -l ndis*'
[23:43] <chocolatemousse> err
[23:43] <chocolatemousse> 'mkdir ~/emptydirectory; cd ~/emptydirectory; dpkg -l ndis*'
[23:43] <pythonuklearner> chocolatemousse: It's in the standard ubuntu repository I'm guessing, sudo apt-get install quickly-widgets and then there is a from quickly.widgets.media_player_box import MediaPlayerBox but googling about it gets nothing unfortunately
[23:44] <chocolatemousse> pythonuklearner, that's a start, but I don't know anything about quickly widgets
[23:44] <chocolatemousse> pythonuklearner, find someone who does
[23:44] <chocolatemousse> pythonuklearner, maybe find the project for quickly?
[23:46] <Henix_Aurorus> Okay so I'm seeing a list of what I assume to be packages, and at the top is a string I'll have to put through my sophisticated inter-OS file transfer device (AKA my thumb drive) becuase I'm not typing that entire thing on my tablet
[23:46] <Henix_Aurorus> So uh
[23:46] <Henix_Aurorus> Gimme a moment
[23:46] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, use pastebinit
[23:46] <chocolatemousse> dpkg -l ndis* | pastebinit
[23:46] <chocolatemousse> copy past the url
[23:46] <Henix_Aurorus> Can't
[23:46] <chocolatemousse> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:47] <chocolatemousse> Ah, no wireless
[23:47] <chocolatemousse> right
[23:47] <Henix_Aurorus> Yeah
[23:47] <chocolatemousse> wait so how did you install ndiswrapper if you don't have wireless?
[23:47] <chocolatemousse> Step #1 won't work without internet
[23:47] <Henix_Aurorus> The file transfer system I mentioned a couple lines ago
[23:48] <Henix_Aurorus> Which basically is my fancy way of saying I've been juggling OSes and putting the files I need on my thumb drice
[23:48] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, ok, so you did something like sudo apt-get download ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 on another device and sudo dpkg -i ndiswrapper-common ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 ?
[23:49] <Henix_Aurorus> Not exactly
[23:49] <chocolatemousse> Well anyways in that case dpkg -l ndis* > /myflashdrive/output.txt
[23:49] <Henix_Aurorus> Dug htrogh launchpad on windows, downloaded the files, and THEN put them on he thumbdrive
[23:49] <chocolatemousse> Ick.
[23:49] <Henix_Aurorus> Yeah
[23:50] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, may I recommend Wubi (if they still have that) on Windows
[23:50] <Henix_Aurorus> Unfottunately it's my only optionright
[23:50] <Henix_Aurorus> ...
[23:50] <lone> what's the best downloader in ubuntu 12.04 like Internet Download Manager in windows?
[23:50] <Henix_Aurorus> Already using wubi actually
[23:51] <chocolatemousse> Good, hopefully it made your life easier.
[23:51] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, brb
[23:51] <Henix_Aurorus> Unfortunately I have hard drive problems, which means I have no other way of using Ubuntu, because gparted completely refuses to resize the partition
[23:53] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, no idea what that problem is, but lets just fix one problem at a time
[23:53] <Henix_Aurorus> Bad sector
[23:53] <chocolatemousse> Mmm
[23:53] <Henix_Aurorus> Is what gparted told me, atl least
[23:54] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, to speed things up a bit, if dpkg -l command's ouput has (ii) next to a ndis-wrapper package, its installed
[23:54] <Henix_Aurorus> It did
[23:54] <chocolatemousse> Its just to verify you have ndiswrapper installed
[23:54] <chocolatemousse> for both ndiswrapper and a '-common package?
[23:54] <Henix_Aurorus> Yes
[23:54] <chocolatemousse> And a utils package presumably
[23:54] <chocolatemousse> ok
[23:54] <Henix_Aurorus> ...wait
[23:55] <Henix_Aurorus> A separate ndiswrapper package, you mean?
[23:55] <lone> best download manager in ubuntu???
[23:55] <lone> Pls
[23:55] <lone> ?
[23:55] <kostkon> !info flareget | lone, check this one:
[23:55] <kostkon> damn
[23:56] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, there should be at least two ndiswrapper packages, one that's common, another that is utils
[23:56] <kostkon> lone, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/flareget/
[23:56] <Henix_Aurorus> yeah, that's what showed up
[23:56] <chocolatemousse> And both should be (ii)
[23:57] <chocolatemousse> Henix_Aurorus, I'd ask in #kernel or #wifi but you may also need ndiswrapper-dkms, not sure about that though
[23:57] <chocolatemousse> dkms is a new kernel thing, but I think its mainly used if you're compiling stuff
[23:58] <Henix_Aurorus> I can try if you give me a moment
[23:58] <Henix_Aurorus> Because in a couple seconds I should have a string to throw your way
[23:59] <Henix_Aurorus> ...if of course Windows would function. This is precisely why I'm trying to switch tomlinux
[23:59] <L-sama> hello, I am trying to share drives via network between windows and ubuntu
[23:59] <Henix_Aurorus> -m