[16:29] <Blacklite_> ActionParsnip: nice
[16:30] <Blacklite_> ross: also you could install flashplugin-installer and it's quicker
[16:30] <ross`> do i need to add universe to apt
[16:30] <ross`> or anything
[16:30] <Blacklite_> no
[16:30] <ross`> i'm using liveusb, my harddrive crashed
[16:30] <mimir> hi, i have a weird problem with my logitech unify mouse... after i restart i have to remove the unify dongle from the USB3 port and reinsert several times before mouse works... any ideas?
[16:30] <ross`> E: Unable to locate package flashplugin-installer
[16:30] <ross`> yes i did apt-get update
[16:31] <Blacklite_> ross: then do apt-get upgrade
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> !flash | ross`
[16:31] <Blacklite_> ActionParsnip: those are never useful
[16:31] <mimir> ross`: you want to install flash ?
[16:32] <ross`> yea, nonfree
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> I just install Chrome, all is well.
[16:32] <ross`> or what debian considers flashplugin-nonfree, whatever is the closest to that
[16:32] <Blacklite_> how do I copy the isolinux bootloader binary? where is it?
[16:32] <mimir> ross`: http://www.myscienceisbetter.info/install-native-64bit-flash-player-11-on-linux.html i've done a tutorial a while ago... but these days it just works for me...
[16:32] <Blacklite_> flashplugin-installer
[16:32] <threex5> When I try to install a printer, I get "FirewallD is not running. Network printer detection needs services mdns, ipp, ipp-client and samba-client enabled on firewall"
[16:32] <mimir> ross`: you might have to find the latest download URLs
[16:33] <ross`> Blacklite_: that doesn't exist in default apt sources
[16:33] <Blacklite_> ross: ?
[16:33] <ozcanesen> my Gtk app is transparent in 12.04 but not transparent in =>12.10, anybody wants to help me?
[16:33] <threex5> I tried to run system-config-printer from a terminal but command wasn't found
[16:33] <ross`> apt-get install or apt-cache search says there is no flashplugin-installer
[16:33] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: you use Chrome and DDG... odd. </ot>
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: yeah, change the search engine in settings and off you go
[16:34] <loren> Channel list (freenode) hangs.  Will not scroll list.
[16:34] <Blacklite_> ross: that's because it's a metapackage
[16:34] <Blacklite_> *derp
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> ross`: the restricted-extras will install flash for you
[16:34] <Rabblerouser> Bah.. how do I remove the proprietary AMD driver? it apparently isn't located in /usr/share/fglrx
[16:34] <ross`> ActionParsnip: how do i install restricted extras from cli
[16:34] <ross`> unity is giving me a heart attac
[16:34] <ross`> attack
[16:37] <threex5> nevermind I ran it again and it worked
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> ross`: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:38] <ross`> you guys needed to tell me to add multiverse...
[16:38] <Rabblerouser> Nm. Found it. It wasn't in /usr/share/fglrx, it was in /usr/share/fglrx/ati
[16:38] <ross`> i asked if i needed to change my apt sources, and you said no
[16:39] <Rabblerouser> Or not
[16:40] <MK``> how do I flush my DNS cache on ubuntu?
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> MK``  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-clearflush-dns-cache-in-ubuntu.html
[16:41] <^chris> >2012++
[16:41] <^chris> >using ubuntu
[16:41] <MK``> thanks
[16:41] <^chris> no problem
[16:41] <loren> Runnng File Roller 3.4.1 in Ubuntu 12.04.  Want to send archive file to Samba file.  The file displays in Nautilus, but can't see as a destination in Archive Manager.  Need help.
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> MK``  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1127169
[16:42] <memand1> MK``: flush dns cache ubuntu
[16:42] <memand1> MK``: http://bit.ly/14rUkjA
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> ross`: I never replied to the question personally, wasn't aware it was needed either. Sorry
[16:43] <MK``> memand1 we're not all antisocial :P
[16:43] <ross`> ActionParsnip: not blaming you, i expect this level of gui on support from ubuntu.
[16:43] <memand1> MK``: I know, but come on ;)
[16:43] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: those links are hilarious.  to "flush cache" you need to restart a daemon that isn't installed by default...  i don't think that really makes sense, do you?
[16:43] <MK``> yeah really
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> memand1  please do not use that link here, it's rude
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> ross`: not unreasonable
[16:43] <MK``> Just trying to get pidgin to work again X)
[16:44] <DJones> !google > memand1
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> MK``: I love pidgin
[16:44] <ross`> ActionParsnip: personally i prefer the cli for package installation, so i asked the proper question which source do i need. The answer which the GUI told me was multiverse.
[16:44] <memand1> Ok, I'm soooory :(
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> ross`: yeah the reply when stuff needs extra sources isn't great, although the package-not-found reply for available packages is pretty coolio
[16:44] <piglit> what is a good program to Anallise where your disk space is going ?
[16:45] <ross`> ActionParsnip: yea, but it didn't have a suggestion for this particular package
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> GitNick: seacrch in dash for disk analyser
[16:45] <ross`> it just said didn't exist
[16:45] <DJones> piglit: Disk usage analyser
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> ross`: d'oh
[16:45] <ross`> thank you for your help tho
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> ross`: I try, thanks for being cool
[16:45] <piglit> ok thanks
[16:45] <zykotick9> piglit: from terminal, ncdu is kinda handy
[16:45] <ross`> ActionParsnip:
[16:46] <ross`> oops
[16:46] <ross`> afk
[16:46] <MK``> apparently this works: sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean
[16:47] <phoenixsampras1> hi?
[16:47] <phoenixsampras1> jezz ubuntu mirros kinda slow
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras1: tried a different source?
[16:49] <zerm> Hey. My freshly set-up system keeps crashing/freezing/rebooting. I'd like to figure out the cause for this, so
[16:49] <zerm> how can i enable kernel debugging? i do not want automatic reboot. i want a kernel debugger console or whatever
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> zerm: I suggest you test RAM using Memtest86+ from Grub as a starting point#
[16:50] <zerm> if linux/ubuntu kills a process (happened before because heavy swapping), does it log this action somewhere?
[16:50] <hilo> hello I've got a remote Ubuntu Desktop headless system which I access with VNC. The resolution on the remote DT is 800x600 and I cannot get it to go higher making many programs unusable. Can someone explain to me how to set the resolution higher on a headless Ubuntu Desktop (32 bit 10.04)
[16:50] <phoenixsampras1> apt-get upgrade-distro aint working
[16:50] <zerm> ActionParsnip, I suspect the heavy I/O I am doing with a SAS controller/network that this might cause the problem
[16:51] <zykotick9> zerm: a process could die (check it's logs) but the kernel isn't going to "kill" anything unless you ask it too.
[16:51] <uplinx> phoenixsampras1, apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:51] <phoenixsampras1> uplinx: thanks!
[16:51] <uplinx> phoenixsampras1, np
[16:52] <zerm> zykotick9, that's what i thought. but that's not happening. e.g. i had a python process where I had a bug causing severe memory consumption. after 5 minutes swapping, the process miriculously terminated without any notice. maybe that's python's behavior, though
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras1: if you read the man page rather than trying to guess commands, you'll win
[16:53] <zykotick9> zerm: that's not the kernel killing it...
[16:53] <phoenixsampras1> i need to develop 2 more eyes
[16:53] <zerm> right now my load went up to 9, which cpu was aroun .3 -- that might be fine because it does a lot i/o waiting. but suddenly, the whole computer froze, and then rebooted itself
[16:53] <zerm> s/which/with
[16:53] <wjtaylor_> where is the window manager settings in 12.04?   I want to enable roll-up. (Gnome classic)
[16:54] <threex5> is there a key command in gnome to pop open a nautilus window?
[16:54] <zerm> zykotick9, ok, might be python itself then. thanks.
[16:54] <zerm> but i definitely do not want an automatic reboot, for no reason, never. who did this to me?
[16:56] <Kurukuru> test
[16:57] <Kurukuru> Are there any distros which use usplash by default? I want to install Ubuntu on an EEEPC 904HD I have but I don't like Plymouth and I have a Usplash theme I want to use
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> !info usplash
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> Kurukuru: why do you care so much, its a boot splash....
[16:58] <Kurukuru> Just a customisation freak
[16:58] <piglit> is virtualbox still the firtual machine to use or is it a other one at this time?
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> threex5: you could use compiz to run the command when you press a shortcut combo
[16:58] <fogobogo> piglit: depends on what you want/need
[16:58] <memand> zerm: If you have some python code that goes into a infinite loop that eats memory and the interpreter for some reasson does not catch that it is an unhealty loop if can cause the system to freeze, and I guess in some casses reboot (on my system it just logged out)
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> piglit: what is 'firtual'?
[16:59] <piglit> fogobo: well first of all i need a easy install as i dont have much time
[16:59] <piglit> i need to test some labview things in XP
[16:59] <piglit> and it would be great if i could use usb
[16:59] <zerm> memand, well. i think i have fixed that issue with the python script. still, it should never ever reboot my machine
[16:59] <fogobogo> then try vbox
[17:00] <piglit> but if it takes too much time i can do without usb
[17:00] <lorddelta> respectfully...what is the issue with python-aptdaemon?
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> piglit  I have XP in virtualbox, runs nice
[17:00] <memand> zerm: I agree...
[17:00] <piglit> fogobogo: vbox ?= virtualbox?
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> piglit: the vbox from the vbox repo has usb access
[17:00] <lorddelta> A bunch of packages were complaining about it this morning; I just ended up building the package I wanted to and installing it manually...
[17:00] <fogobogo> piglit: yes
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> piglit: yes vbox = virtualbox
[17:00] <lorddelta> No problems so far.
[17:00] <piglit> ok thanks you guys are great
[17:00] <zerm> nothing in /var/log/kernel.log -- just a (super fast, at least) reboot
[17:01] <piglit> I can also import virtual machines i have from vmware ?
[17:01] <MonkeyDust> piglit  vmdk yes, import
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> piglit: i'd ask in #vmware, I'd imagine so
[17:02] <zerm> humm "BUG: soft lockup - CPU#2 stuck for 21s! [Xorg:1183]" what is that?!
[17:03] <luvs-lightw8> I have a Toshiba Satellite A305D and the media touch keys do not work. This has not been an issue with other flavors of linux. I'm on peppermint. Any ideas?
[17:03] <phoenixsampras1> WTh is doing dist-upgrade... taking hours
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> luvs-lightw8  peppermint is not supported here
[17:03] <luvs-lightw8> Ok
[17:03] <luvs-lightw8> Thanks.
[17:04] <phoenixsampras1> its upgrading python and libreoffice.... again and again
[17:11] <blaamann_b570> Is there a way I can see the crash report that is sent when Firefox crashes for me and the error send dialog appear asking me if I would send the crash report or not?
[17:13] <memand> zerm: Can I ask what you where trying to do in python to cause the crash?
[17:14] <zerm> basically just backup over network share to a SAS-connected tape drive
[17:14] <lonewulf85> Hello everyone I have a question about VMware player.
[17:14] <zerm> computing hashes on the fly, there was my first bug (loaded files fully to memory first). but that's fixed and as long as the backup-source can keep up with the speed, it works just fine
[17:15] <zerm> the panics seem to be related to the BUG soft - lock CPU#2 stall
[17:15] <lonewulf85> I am wondering if I could run XP or Vista in it and have the silerlight capacity?
[17:15] <mibofra_smart> hi :)
[17:15] <zerm> i mean, that looks like a panic. i'm not so super linux expert, i expected some big "PANIC" in a log
[17:16] <zerm> still, it reboots and does not dump the core. i wish i could prevent that
[17:16] <zerm> best would be to drop into kdb or whatever
[17:16] <zerm> is there a sysctl or something?
[17:16] <memand> zerm: I'm not 100% sure what that BUG means, but it does not sound too good
[17:17] <zerm> according to google, there was a bug in the linux kernel 3 years ago with that symtop/error message
[17:17] <zerm> but that's about it
[17:17] <lonewulf85> I am taking a PC class and for one site testout.com I need silverlight I was hoping I could run a VM as a work around.
[17:18] <zerm> could be related to APIC, I read, which makes sense as my interrupts get high and stuff. that SAS controller seams shitty as well
[17:18] <jorik_> рус есть?
[17:18] <ThinkT510> lonewulf85: yes, that would work
[17:18] <memand> Well the Xorg 1183 msg might yield some more info
[17:19] <lonewulf85> ThinkT510: Thank you I was hoping I could I was just unsure as I have never done a Windows guest OS before.
[17:20] <memand> zerm: Are you sure that your computer actually rebooted, I mean did it show the bios boot screen and evertything?
[17:20] <zerm> uptime told me
[17:21] <zerm> ssh connection dropped, i reconnected, uptime is low, all my previously running processes are gone
[17:21] <zerm> didnt want to walk all the stairs up to the computer, but been told that it presents the login screen
[17:21] <zerm> so guess it rebooted
[17:22] <jorik_> чат на рус какой?
[17:22] <memand> I can't find anything yet on that Xorg error, but it sounds like the x server crashed
[17:22] <memand> !ru | jorik_
[17:22] <mibofra_smart> After today upadate , I can't start lightdm . If try with lightdm-session , the error this time is : "x-session-manager: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgdk-3.so.0: undefined symbol: wl_registry_interface
[17:22] <mibofra_smart> what should I do ?
[17:23] <xinglenick> hi, all
[17:24] <mibofra_smart> P.S. the terminal is running ubuntu RR dev branch
[17:24] <ThinkT510> !13.04 | mibofra_smart
[17:25] <xinglenick> I use ubuntu 12.04, How can I find out the file which the env LC_LANGUAGE is set?
[17:25] <zerm> so, sysctl kernel.panic controls after how many second it reboots after a panic. which somebody set to 0 which sucks
[17:25] <mibofra_smart> ThinkT510: you're right :)
[17:25] <belgianguy> I'm trying to create a cronjob, but am getting mails from my server that the permission was denied
[17:25] <belgianguy> /bin/sh: 1: /home/public_html/mysite.com/public/cron/run.php: Permission denied
[17:26] <belgianguy> does that mean the php file needs to be chmoded or that this should be sudo cronjob?
[17:27] <memand> belgianguy: The file needs to be executable for anyone to execute it ;)
[17:27] <teefs> I am getting a weird...thing happening when I try to install haskell-mode, and after it is 'installed' it is broken.  I have tried cleaning the package and reinstalling, I don't know what else to try atm.  Any suggestions?  here is a log of the apt output...you can see the weird garbled crap: https://pastee.org/uf8jj
[17:27] <belgianguy> memand: ah, I'll check that, I had to turn them off as I was getting a mail every minute
[17:27] <xinglenick> generally, how to find out the file which a env variable is set?
[17:28] <memand> belgianguy: chmod +x file.php
[17:28] <memand> zerm: I'm still having a hard time believing that it actually rebooted
[17:28] <jrib> xinglenick: in general, with much frustration :)  What are you looking for?
[17:29] <belgianguy> thanks memand
[17:29] <zerm> memand, yeah, can't help. it did. possibly that f*cking SAS controller because i had similar experiences on a different set-up before (but attributed it to some other reasons back then..)
[17:31] <zerm> will try with noapic boot flag
[17:31] <zerm> and strict panicing
[17:31] <memand> zerm: does this happen often?
[17:31] <zerm> wish me luck, will physically go to the box
[17:31] <memand> lol
[17:31] <xinglenick> my LC_LANGUAGE was changed, and I want to know why it was  changed
[17:32] <zerm> memand, yeah pretty much. that's gonna be the backup managing machine, which makes it ver... delicate
[17:32] <teefs> should I ask in emacs?  it says the package is maintained by ubuntu
[17:33] <memand> zerm: HAve you considered getting another motherboard for that machine then?
[17:33] <jrib> teefs: did you check for bugs on the package at http://bugs.ubuntu.com?
[17:34] <teefs> jrib: I couldn't find any like that
[17:34] <teefs> it's not saying it failed to install, it just spits out crap when it installs
[17:34] <teefs> and then if I load a .hs file, it does not parse correctly and that same stuff is in the minibuffer
[17:35] <jrib> teefs: what same stuff?  lines 28-31?
[17:36] <teefs> jrib: yes
[17:36] <memand> xinglenick: Can you give some more details?
[17:37] <hilo> hello I've got a remote Ubuntu Desktop headless system which I access with VNC. The resolution on the remote DT is 800x600 and I cannot get it to go higher making many programs unusable. Can someone explain to me how to set the resolution higher on a headless Ubuntu Desktop (32 bit 10.04)
[17:37] <jrib> teefs: read haskell-site-file.el and see if anything looks weird?
[17:39] <z_erm> memand, i'm not sure that it's related to the machine at all. more the SAS controller or tape drive, i guess. Had some (but only some) unexplainable reboots quite a while ago when using a completely different machine
[17:40] <z_erm> now i've set all kernel.panic* sysctls to debugging values, disabled apic, rebooted. let's see. backup will take about 1-2 hours until crash/freeze
[17:41] <xinglenick> memand: i set LC_LANGUAGE to en_US in /etc/default/locale file and ran update-locale, then reboot and login, but i still found the LC_LANGUAGE is set to zh_CN:en_US:en
[17:41] <z_erm> (i wonder how often i can write to the same tape until it wears out :D)
[17:42]  * washuu_de is back (gone 42:28:46)
[17:42] <z_erm> out for dinner until next panic :) thanks guys and have a nice.. whatever you're having right now
[17:42] <guide_X> I have 11.04 and it won't update, i'm not sure how to fix it
[17:43] <ThinkT510> guide_X: 11.04 is no longer supported
[17:43] <guide_X> this is the endless loop it is in as well
[17:43] <guide_X> it says it needs to update and isn't supported, but then can't update
[17:43] <guide_X> is it not possible to update it or?
[17:44] <ThinkT510> guide_X: why didn't you upgrade to a newer release when it was supported?
[17:44] <teefs> jrib: I can't find anything, and ironically, haskell-site-file.el is parsed fine by emacs elisp mode :)
[17:44] <teefs> really weird
[17:44] <xangua> guide_X: open update manager and upgrade to 11.10
[17:44] <guide_X> I did not build it and have only started using it recently, it is a sort of dev/staging server
[17:45] <guide_X> thats when it cannot update
[17:45] <guide_X> it says the program closed unexpectedly
[17:45] <jrib> teefs: you might try redownloading the deb (delete what you have in /var/cache/apt/archives/ ) and installing that to see if it makes a difference.  Might also check the various files for the package in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ .  And finally, you might checkout debsums.  I'm not really sure what's going on :)
[17:46] <teefs> jrib: okay thanks for suggestions.  I'll try those
[17:46] <guide_X> jeez it was only april 2011 when it was released
[17:47] <Castial> well question for anyone using Ubuntu-Gnome, I cant choose Gnome 2d from the login screen, how do I enable it for usage?
[17:47] <guide_X> so isn't there something I can do? it's an important machine
[17:47] <Castial> google seems to be useless here
[17:47] <memand> xangua: Try running locale -a
[17:48] <memand> and check to see that the locale you want is listed there
[17:48] <guest123> hi
[17:48] <xangua> memand: sure, when i know what are you talking about ;)
[17:49] <xinglenick> memand: does it possible to find where LC_LANGUAGE is set ?
[17:49] <ExxKA> Hey guys. Do you know how I can remove all the records in the resolv.conf file, using resolvconf?
[17:49] <memand> xangua: sorry wrong guy :P
[17:49] <Castial> why does it have to be so hard to enable gnome 2d shell
[17:49] <memand> xinglenick: : Try running locale -a
[17:49] <Castial> can I please get some help
[17:49] <memand> and check to see that the locale you want is listed there
[17:51] <guest123> ExxKA, what is resolvconf
[17:52] <ExxKA> guest123, it is a script for editing /etc/resolv.conf with deals with DNS settings
[17:52] <pan__> Hi, how do I change the permission of mounts in /media/$user so that everyone can access them?
[17:52] <ExxKA> pan__, look at your mount settings
[17:53] <pan__> ExxKA: it happens automatically
[17:53] <pan__> nautilus automount
[17:53] <ExxKA> pan__, yes but the access rights and filesystem type is still configured in a mount setting file. I am not a regular ubuntu user, but check fstab
[17:53] <ExxKA> /etc/fstab
[17:54] <pan__> ExxKA: it's not in fstab because it's mounted at runtime
[17:54] <pan__> it's a usb stick
[17:54] <Blacklite_> is ActionParsnip still here?
[17:57] <ExxKA> pan__, I don't know then
[17:58] <jasunto> anyone have nvidia sli experience with ubuntu?
[17:58] <itry> Good Evening! When I do "cryptsetup remove x" it seems to return before it actually freed up x. So the rest of my script fails. Is there a way to make "cryptsetup remove" blocking or some other way to wait until it really finished?
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> itry  what code/language?
[18:01] <itry> MonkeyDust: bash
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> itry  maybe the people in #bash can help better
[18:02] <phoenixsampras> hellowzor
[18:02] <phoenixsampras> ok, seems Nvidia drivers worked
[18:03] <itry> MonkeyDust: i can try. but its not really a bash question.
[18:04] <phoenixsampras> a.. are you there?
[18:04] <phoenixsampras> it s was a bro with the name A.....
[18:05] <threex5> is it still possible to set window buttons in gnome fallback? i went to configuration editor > apps > metacity > general > button_layout and tried to change the buttons but nothing happened, even when I logged out and back in.
[18:05] <phoenixsampras> wow 1846 people sleeping
[18:05] <LuizAngioletti> Where do I get reliable information about disks, partitions and fs's?
[18:08] <phoenixsampras> how to autostart apps, when i login?
[18:08] <phoenixsampras> aloha?
[18:08] <contrapunctus> phoenixsampras
[18:09] <phoenixsampras> contrapunctus: hi, how to autostart apps when i login?
[18:09] <LuizAngioletti> phoenixsampras: there is an utility on the dashboard
[18:09] <phoenixsampras> LuizAngioletti: what is the name?
[18:10] <LuizAngioletti> phoenixsampras: I think is something like "session apps"... my system isn't in English, so...
[18:10] <contrapunctus> Not sure for Ubuntu but we have a Session and Startup option under Menu > Settings > Settings Manager in Xubuntu/UbuntuStudio
[18:10] <phoenixsampras> Startup Apps!!!
[18:10] <phoenixsampras> LuizAngioletti: thank you!!
[18:10] <LuizAngioletti> phoenixsampras: there you go. =)
[18:10] <Blacklite_> i'm making an ubuntu remix from scratch. it includes openbox, tint2 and conky (not very creative, i Know,) and it's going to be meant for running Minecraft almost exclusively.  what programs would you suggest?
[18:11] <LuizAngioletti> Blacklite_: I'd suggest *not* minecraft.  There is this thing called humor, you know?
[18:11] <boze> lol
[18:11] <Blacklite_> i understand
[18:12] <phoenixsampras> aint Minecraft for skinheads?
[18:12] <Blacklite_> it's just not funny
[18:12] <LuizAngioletti> Blacklite_: sorry then.
[18:12] <contrapunctus> Can someone please tell me how I may select and connect to a network from the CLI?
[18:12] <Blacklite_> it's quite alright.
[18:12] <Blacklite_> wifi-menu
[18:12] <Blacklite_> or ifup <interface>
[18:12] <Blacklite_> the interface is usually eth0
[18:12] <contrapunctus> wifi-menu command not found, Blacklite_
[18:13] <Blacklite_> for ethernet.
[18:13] <nuf0xx_> or wlan0
[18:13] <contrapunctus> I'm using mobile broadband...
[18:13] <Blacklite_> oh. srry, I was thinking about arch
[18:13] <Blacklite_> try ifup wlan0
[18:14] <uplinx> anyone have any luck getting curlftpfs to automount with write privileges for normal users?
[18:14] <contrapunctus> ifup: failed to open statefile /run/network/ifstate: Permission denied
[18:14] <nuf0xx_> contrapunctus: see the output of "lspci | grep Network"
[18:14] <jrib> contrapunctus: nmcli
[18:14] <Blacklite_> jrib: good call
[18:14] <nuf0xx_> also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[18:15] <contrapunctus> nuf0xx_ - lspci | grep Network 02:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[18:15] <Blacklite_> I have the same one!!!
[18:15] <Blacklite_> brothers!!!!
[18:15] <nuf0xx_> contrapunctus: now iwconfig
[18:17] <phoenixsampras> Jezzz, UBUNTU is slo SLOW, when copying 114 Gb
[18:17] <contrapunctus> nuf0xx_ why do we need that?
[18:17] <slashrun> Hello all, could someone tell me if ubuntu supports SSD hard drives out of the box.  Will I have to reconfigure it in someway to keep the drive from being prematurely worn out like I have to do in some cases on windows.
[18:17] <phoenixsampras> how to decrease the CPU priority on file copying?
[18:17] <bogi-> phoenixsampras, ?? dont be such noob
[18:18] <contrapunctus> jrib's suggestion works. nmcli con to see your connection's UUID
[18:18] <phoenixsampras> bogi-: sorry, im new with ubuntu 12.10
[18:18] <contrapunctus> nmcli con up uuid <uuid> or nmcli con up id <name> connects
[18:18] <bogi-> phoenixsampras, np...sry to be roode..just comming from ql channel
[18:19] <bogi-> phoenixsampras, u tried with simple mv command..try man mv
[18:19] <phoenixsampras> ql? quick lunch?
[18:19] <phoenixsampras> bogi-: well im moving using nautilus i think
[18:19] <bogi-> phoenixsampras, no from quake :/
[18:19] <nuf0xx_> just making sure you card is configured
[18:20] <threex5> found it! In dconf-editor > org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences
[18:20] <lorddelta> Apart from the aptdaemon thing, I must say I'm happy with how stable this system has become since sticking to LTS release.
[18:20] <kzolotarov> greetings!
[18:20] <foma> I just did an apt-get on nmcli and it wasn't found, where can I get it?
[18:20] <bogi-> phoenixsampras, 114 gb is big chunk...try to get familiar with cli with all big operation's
[18:21] <phoenixsampras> alright
[18:21] <phoenixsampras> cancelling the noob nautilis
[18:21] <lorddelta> Perhaps I should be asking in dev channel about the aptdaemon issue?
[18:21] <indieross> slashrun, http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/enable-trim-on-ssd-solid-state-drives.html
[18:22] <bogi-> phoenixsampras, no it is not noob...just the graphical way is sometimes slow...but major concerns is speed of your dist
[18:22] <bogi-> phoenixsampras, disk^^^
[18:22] <foma> What is this COD? calling people noobs?
[18:23] <drag0nius> how to change www-data user's umask?
[18:23] <drag0nius> i want to give group all permissions
[18:23] <phoenixsampras> bogi-: ok did the MV stuff... waiting
[18:23] <bogi-> foma, i apoliggating for that
[18:24] <bogi-> foma, uh misspelled word...
[18:25] <bogi-> phoenixsampras, u get move that once in a year...
[18:25] <slashrun> indieross: This is exactly what I needed, thank you for your help.
[18:28] <ignerous> how to customize panel clock applet date over time in ubuntu 12.10?
[18:28] <loren> Can't send archive file to Samba file
[18:28] <teefs> jrib: I found some strange ctl chars in the el files that I didn't see before, I removed them...is there a way to get these recompiled and installed without apt overwriting them?
[18:30] <elijah> How do I find out the current version of Netbeans available in Ubuntu's repo? I am on 7.1.1 and 7.2 is available but I cannot get it through updates.
[18:30] <tripelb> Grub is not right. Now knows there are two systems on HD, but not about the third. And LiveCD cannot see any OS's on the HD. On boot I have the choice of windows or ububtu. The ububtu says incomplete install. How do I proceed?
[18:30] <jrib> teefs: did you check if they are like that in a newly downloaded package?
[18:30] <trism> ignerous: you want a custom datetime format in the clock indicator? you can configure that in dconf-editor, com/canonical/indicator/datetime custom-time-format, and setting time-format to custom
[18:31]  * tripelb changes nick to help me**3
[18:31] <bogi-> phoenixsampras, did u move file's?
[18:31] <phoenixsampras> bogi-: slowly.... seems its moving
[18:32] <ignerous> trism: i want like this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/how-to-customize-the-clock-applet-in-ubuntu
[18:32] <elijah> How can I find out if I installed Netbeans via apt-get vs a manual install?
[18:32] <bogi-> phoenixsampras, ok..just leave it to finish it...it wont stuck..
[18:32] <phoenixsampras> unable to remove target: Is a directory
[18:33] <trism> ignerous: oh interesting, hadn't seen that, hmm, let me take a look
[18:33] <neuron> can anyone help me out with
[18:33] <neuron>  Linux kernel source not configured - missing autoconf.h
[18:34] <neuron> ubuntu 12.04
[18:34] <neuron> desktop
[18:34] <trism> ignerous: it would be the same method I describe above, just with that code, but I do not know if it strips tags now, it might
[18:34] <tripelb> elijah: guessing, use uparrow on terminal for command history.
[18:34] <elijah> tripelb: I installed it a year ago, I don't think my command history goes back that far ;)
[18:34] <neuron> hello
[18:34] <neuron>  Linux kernel source not configured - missing autoconf.h
[18:35] <trism> ignerous: yeah it seems to escape tags so that probably won't work anymore without modifying the source code
[18:35] <ignerous> trism: please can you do it
[18:35] <phoenixsampras> installing virtualbox...
[18:35] <neuron> great
[18:35] <phoenixsampras> coz kvm aint that good
[18:35] <neuron> can anyone help me out
[18:36] <neuron>  Linux kernel source not configured - missing autoconf.h
[18:36] <neuron> installing atheros driver
[18:36] <neuron> ethernet driver
[18:36] <tripelb> Neurondid you check your LiveCD, as in check the disk integrity at the first text screen. You get it by pressing enter at the first Ubuntu screen with the tinyn stuff below (I call it filmstrip=man in circle)
[18:36] <compdoc> kvm is excellent
[18:36] <neuron> ok
[18:37] <neuron> how does that hep me
[18:37] <neuron> help*
[18:37] <compdoc> just not for local graphics
[18:37] <DJones> !patience | neuron
[18:37] <neuron> sorry for that
[18:37] <keith_> For what reason would a package be available in Debian sid but removed in Quantal? I though Quantal was based on sid?
[18:37] <phoenixsampras> kvm was crashing...
[18:37] <tripelb> neuron: ask all on one line please, I have this situations, am using this Ubuntu, get this, want this... Capiche?
[18:38] <neuron> ok will not make that mistake again
[18:38] <phoenixsampras> help me now!!
[18:38] <phoenixsampras> lol
[18:39] <tripelb> neuron: also ie you are talking to one person, we star the line with their nick so theey can see it in a busy chat. No blame, we all start as beginners.
[18:39] <tripelb> !ask | neuron
[18:39] <ignerous> trism: are you doing it??
[18:39] <bogi-> phoenixsampras, ??
[18:40] <neuron> tripleb : thanks,  now i am checking it first  by live CD and let you guys know
[18:40] <tripelb> neuron: for instance I asked my question about grub and I am waiting.
[18:41] <njd001> missed something
[18:41] <njd001> i'll be bach
[18:41] <keith_> For what reason would a package be available in Debian sid but removed in Quantal? I though Quantal was based on sid?
[18:41] <trism> ignerous: I am looking
[18:43] <phoenixsampras> I have a problem... i get "Ubuntu has encountered a error... report??" every 10 mins
[18:43] <phoenixsampras> internal error
[18:47] <LuizAngioletti> When using 'ldd' I get two different outputs. One has arrows and points to an address (like /lib/foo) and the other shows something like a hex code.
[18:47] <LuizAngioletti> What does the hex code stands for? What does it mean?
[18:48] <Solskogen> Hi! I want to install the 32bit version of libsdl-dev onto my 64bit ubuntu, is that possible with apt?
[18:49] <jrib> Solskogen: yes, you can do that using multiarch
[18:50] <jrib> Solskogen: what version of ubuntu?
[18:50] <Solskogen> jrib: 12.10
[18:50] <bogi-> jrib, TY ...i thought that some stuff i must compile by myself
[18:51] <BrilliantMind> To install Ubuntu 12.10 in dual boot with Back | Track, is acceptable let the partition configuration to the system itself?
[18:51] <Solskogen> jrib: apt-get install libsdl-1.2:i386 will remove a WHOLE lot of stuff - so that is not an option
[18:51] <jrib> Solskogen: umm, what would it remove exactly?
[18:51] <kaserelsanam> good night
[18:51] <BrilliantMind> Greetings! To install Ubuntu 12.10 in dual boot with Back | Track, is acceptable let the partition configuration to the system itself?
[18:51] <jrib> Solskogen: and why do you need this 32bit version by the way?
[18:52] <kaserelsanam>  E: Unable to locate package udev-extra
[18:52] <Solskogen> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1590417/
[18:52] <uplinx> basic question, does anyone know how to add to your places in nautilus?
[18:52] <Solskogen> jrib: I have an application that I want to compile for both 32bits ubuntu, and 64bits ubuntu. without the need of setting up an additional build machine.
[18:52] <jrib> Solskogen: use pbuilder for that
[18:53] <Solskogen> jrib: that is an additional build machine.
[18:54] <kaserelsanam> how to use hawawy  etisalt  modem in ubuntu   ? the etisalt  modem is unfunctioning  in ubunto   but works  in windows  very well
[18:55] <jrib> Solskogen: if you don't wish to use pbuild or similar, then you will have to figure out why apt wants to remove those packages when you install libsd1.2-dev:i386
[18:55] <evgeniy> Привет Всем
[18:55] <Solskogen> jrib: that's why I'm here :-)
[18:55] <zistor> Привет!
[18:56] <jrib> Solskogen: you can specify the packages it wants to remove explicitly on the install line and apt should be more informative
[18:56] <kaserelsanam> how to use hawawy  etisalt  modem in ubuntu   ? the etisalt  modem is unfunctioning  in ubunto   but works  in windows  very well
[18:57] <ignerous> trism: have you got it?
[18:58] <bogi-> did someone have tips with work with broadcom wifi cards...I cant control wifi well with nm-applet and wierd thing that when searching free AP use a lot of system resources
[18:58] <BrilliantMind> Greetings! To install Ubuntu 12.10 in dual boot with Back | Track is acceptable to leave the live cd to partition configuration?
[18:58] <kaserelsanam> how to use hawawy  etisalt  modem in ubuntu   ? the etisalt  modem is unfunctioning  in ubunto   but works  in windows  very well
[18:58] <jrib> Solskogen: since libsdl1.2-dev seems to conflic with libsdl-dev my guess would be you have libsdl-dev installed
[18:58] <Solskogen> jrib: well, I want to have them both :-)
[18:58] <jpitts> what would the best way of switching from virtual vmware 12.10 to physical?
[18:59] <BrilliantMind> Anybody can answer this: To install Ubuntu 12.10 in dual boot with Back | Track is acceptable to leave the live cd to partition configuration?
[18:59] <jrib> Solskogen: what ubuntu version is this?
[18:59] <foma> lynx
[19:00] <foma> oops wrong window :)
[19:00] <Solskogen> guess I have to setup a 32bit vm :(
[19:00] <BrilliantMind> Guys??? Please!! To install Ubuntu 12.10 in dual boot with Back | Track is acceptable to leave the live cd to partition configuration?
[19:02] <jrib> Solskogen: what happened when you included the packages to be removed in the install line?
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> BrilliantMind  yes, the live cd can do the partitioning, no problem
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> BrilliantMind  is it a ubuntu cd or a backtrack cd? if it's backtrack, type /join #backtrack-linux
[19:03] <ignerous> trism: have you got it?
[19:03] <BrilliantMind> MonkeyDust, thank you for the answer. Ubuntu LiveCD.
[19:04] <tripelb> Grub. Rebuilding grub. Help. Asking for days now. Better change to be the SQUEAKY WHEEL!
[19:05] <jhutchins_wk> !fixgrub | tripelb
[19:07] <BrilliantMind> MonkeyDust, Can I move the space bar to let little or bigger, right?
[19:08] <Tecan> anyone else have dvd rom issues sometimes ?
[19:08] <Tecan> my 2 sata drives just stop reading disks after a while
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> BrilliantMind  if you have free space, yes
[19:08] <Tecan> i try ejecting them from nautilus and it sometimes works
[19:08] <bogi-> Tecan, Me too but my dvd is been dearty :D
[19:08] <BrilliantMind> MonkeyDust, Can I move the space bar to let little or bigger, right
[19:09] <bogi-> Tecan, After cleaning work as usual
[19:09] <BrilliantMind> MonkeyDust, Thank you.
[19:10] <local> Where to put bash script for init/startup/.desktop in ubuntu  12.04? I am trying to mess around with an ip address forwarder.
[19:10] <local> in particular trying to forward external ip to my gmail account.
[19:11] <sweettea> Hi guys, long time centos user here. Pondering migration to ubuntu server. Can anyone advise on 12.04 vs 12.10?
[19:11] <sweettea> The primary use will be as a virtd host on amd abu dhabi procs
[19:11] <chriys> how to verify opened port on my network and the one that my ISP blocked ?
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> sweettea  #ubuntu-server -- 12.04 has longer support (lts)
[19:11] <compdoc> sweettea, ive tried both and prefer 12.04
[19:11] <jrib> sweettea: 12.04 = support for 5 years, 12.10 = support for 18 months (from release) but has newer software
[19:12] <sweettea> compdoc: on server? I am sorry I should have specified
[19:13] <sweettea> I have joined that channel and asked there
[19:14] <bogi-> sweettea, compdoc, +1 for 12.04 but +10 to stay on centOS
[19:14] <jhutchins_wk> Tecan: I can't rip more than 2-3 CD's in a row.  The drive gets hot and stops working.
[19:15] <sweettea> why stay? the virtd binaries are very old
[19:15] <sweettea> its the only reason I am moving to ubuntu
[19:15] <compdoc> bogi-, sweettea, centos is ok, but I switched to Ubuntu from centos and will not go back
[19:15] <bogi-> jhutchins_wk, you need a pro burner then
[19:15] <jhutchins_wk> bogi-: Or maybe just a better location in the case.
[19:16] <sweettea> guys, were talking about servers right
[19:16] <sweettea> ofc I use ubuntu on my laptop
[19:16] <bogi-> jhutchins_wk, yy maybe that too
[19:16] <local> chriys: nmap -PN localhost  ???   or are you talking about your router?
[19:16] <sweettea> my main concern is security
[19:16] <tripelb> jhutchins_wk: thanks. That's what I've been looking for if I didn't already find that in search for_ grub rescue and grub recovery
[19:17] <jrib> sweettea: yes, support includes security updates
[19:18] <jhutchins_wk> sweettea: The only real reason to use Centos is to be compatible with RHEL.
[19:18] <neuron> tripelb: I did not find any solution to my problem. Ethernet is not working. I tried to install it from AR8151 package with no success . It says autoconf.h not found
[19:18] <chriys> local: i'm using postfix and the port 25 seems to be blocked by my ISP that's why i can't send email outside of the localnetwork and i'm wondering how to verify the opened one it order to make my postfix listening to it
[19:18] <jhutchins_wk> tripelb: Did you get it fixed?
[19:20] <jhutchins_wk> neuron: That should be supported by the internal atl1c driver since kernel 2.6.32
[19:21] <jhutchins_wk> chriys: Port 25 is for _inbound_ mail.
[19:21] <jhutchins_wk> chriys: If they block it outbound how are you supposed to use their mailsevers?
[19:22] <chriys> my server won't send or receive
[19:23] <jhutchins_wk> Do you use their mailserver?
[19:23] <chriys> jhutchins_wk: i asked this question to myself, by i was told that the port is block and work only with known host wich i found weird
[19:23] <chriys> no i have installed postfix on my ubuntu server
[19:24] <local> chriys: port forward.
[19:24] <jhutchins_wk> chriys: I realize that that's what you're trying to do, but what do you do for mail now?
[19:24] <chriys> local: on my router? already did
[19:24] <chriys> jhutchins_wk what do you mean
[19:25] <jhutchins_wk> chriys: Presumably you have some sort of external email account already?
[19:26] <chriys> yes i have
[19:26] <jhutchins_wk> Ok, what protocols does it use on what ports?
[19:28] <EvanCarroll> ...
[19:28] <EvanCarroll> swappermall swappermall_ swappermall__ swappermall___ swappermall____ a bit excessive, eh? perhaps an IRC proxy would help you out?
[19:32] <friendy> Oh, May I invoke a Linux/Ubuntu Guru to help a windows users, whom cannot return to the realms of Bill n Gates, to help me with a task?
[19:32] <jhutchins_wk> EvanCarroll: Or irssi + scren.
[19:32] <jhutchins_wk> !ask
[19:33] <chriys> jhutchins i use imap on port 993 with ssl
[19:33] <friendy> My question is quite simple. I am installing Hamachi to my linux machine, I previously attempted to use it in Virtualbox and run the game in Linux, but it has failed, so I am trying to install it to Linux. I have found two-three ways, using ARU, sysvinit, which confuses me being three files, the other from Logmein, but I cannot install lsb. I am using an older version of Ubuntu, but I require the heavenly help of the Guru's of Linux
[19:33] <friendy> lol
[19:34] <chriys> jhutchins_wk: i use imap on port 993 with ssl
[19:34] <EvanCarroll> friendy: that's not a clear question and it's very apologetic, so you need help isntalling lsb, or Hamachi (which I do not know about)
[19:35] <EvanCarroll> lsb should be in ubuntu-minimal or something to that affect.
[19:35] <keith_> I have a macbook dual booting OSX and Ubuntu. I haven't used OSX in months and would like to remove it. Can I do this safely without any ill effects? I'm concerned if I clear that partition, it will really screw rEFIt up
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> friendy  is that a windows game?
[19:35] <friendy> I have a few files.
[19:36] <friendy> I did within the magical terminal ./install.sh, but it is saying it won't work.
[19:36] <friendy> And I have no clue how to get the sysvinit way to work.
[19:36] <friendy> Yes Monkey, I am trying to get a windows game to work via Hamachi, multiplayer.
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> friendy  in wine, then?
[19:37] <friendy> Yes. The game works perfectly, merely the producers of that game made horrible multiplayer that works perfectly in Ham.
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> friendy  have you asked in #winehq ?
[19:38] <friendy> The Hamachi version, there exists a Linux version of that. It's not the game, its the linux version of Hamachi, which I am having problems installing. One said I needed lsb, but it looks like its on. Another said you can do it a different way, but when I click it, the terminal comes up and dissapears so fast.
[19:39] <MonkeyDust> friendy  i read here, the linux version is beta, so perhaps buggy
[19:40] <friendy> Slightly buggy. I merely request help in getting it installed via the beta-buggy version, or the other way (Another person compiled something or this or that, supposed to be easier to install, because of problems with lsb, and an add on he made later had a gui version).
[19:40] <keith_> I have a macbook dual booting OSX and Ubuntu. I haven't used OSX in months and would like to remove it. Can I do this safely without any ill effects? I'm concerned if I clear that partition, it will really screw rEFIt up
[19:41] <garnet> keith_: Just out of curiosity, what exactly in Ubuntu is better than in OS X?
[19:41] <friendy> If you could help me at all Monkey in figuring out why it won't work, and how to get it to work, it be appreciated.
[19:42] <local> anyone no where to put bash scripts that run on startup?
[19:42] <local> know^
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> friendy  no, i'm not a gamer and not familiar with windows
[19:43] <Lartza> What apt command would show me what package forced an install of another
[19:43] <friendy> But it's not with a windows program, but its with getting something installed, dealing with the terminal and ./install.sh and scripts, not with windows or windows games.
[19:43] <keith_> garnet: Package management. I used to use MacPorts when I was on OSX, but I find that the Debian repos are much larger, and in particular contained a package that I needed and couldn't get to compile on my own. Other than that, the two are not so different
[19:43] <Lartza> Dependency
[19:43] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all, I upgraded to 12.10 and installed ubuntu-gnome-desktop and now when I log into a gnome session my graphics settings are all messed up and I have to reapply all of my NVidia settings
[19:43] <phy1729> keith_: I'd put rEFIt on it's own partition then whipe the Mac one perhaps leaving the recovery behind just in case
[19:44] <friendy> Can you at least help me resolve this error when I use the .Deb file? ---Dependency is not satisfiable: lsb-core (>= 3.0) ----
[19:44] <keith_> garnet: Additionally, my next computer will not be a MacBook, and another computer I have is also not made by apple
[19:44] <EvanCarroll> friendy: does Hamachi run under wine? or is it a native linux app?
[19:44] <kvothetech> friendy: install lsb-core version greater than or equal to 3.0
[19:44] <keith_> phy1729: Can I then expand the partition that Ubuntu is on without destroying any other data?
[19:44] <phy1729> depends on the filesystem
[19:45] <friendy> Both. I'm trying to install the linux version. It was made into a native app.
[19:45] <kvothetech> keith_: depends on your hdd filesystem free space in other partitions etc
[19:45] <garnet> keith_: Ubuntu uses ext4. It's easily and safely expandable from LiveCD (USB)
[19:45] <Lartza> apt-cache rdepends package lists all and not only what's installed...
[19:45] <friendy> Kvothetech, where do I install the ones greater or equal? I've found so many links, and when I opend up systenamtic and typed in lsb, everything that was in there was installed.
[19:46] <keith_> kvothetech, garnet, phy1729: thank you all
[19:46] <garnet> I think you can just delete your OS X partition from LiveCD (USB) and expand Ubuntu to fill it up. rEFIt being a EFI boot manager shouldn't become broken
[19:46] <Lartza> For example I have plymouth, libavformat etc installed and I want to know why
[19:46] <kvothetech> friendy: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12905365/lsb-core_3.2-4ubuntu1_i386.deb is the 386 version...
[19:47] <kvothetech> friendy: if you're on a 64 bit install there's probably another one for you but...it's not hard to find.
[19:47] <TLoT> what partition type does /boot need to be, if i make a separate boot sector?
[19:47] <TLoT> s/sector/partition/
[19:47] <friendy> Thank You. And no, not 64. 32 Maverick :).
[19:48] <friendy> Dependency is not satisfiable: alien (>= 8.36)
[19:48] <keith_> garnet: Yes, but the rEFIt stuff is on the OSX partition in /efi
[19:48] <friendy> That just popped up.
[19:48] <TLoT> friendy: are you using Maverick?
[19:48] <friendy> Dependency is not satisfiable: alien (>= 8.36) ---Yeah, I am.
[19:48] <kvothetech> TLoT: depends on your bootloader but usually first 1024 sectors and ext2/3/4 are common...
[19:48] <TLoT> !maverick | friendy
[19:48] <TLoT> just as an FYI
[19:48] <TLoT> kvothetech: okay, i am doing a clean install on a bare drive
[19:48] <TLoT> kvothetech: so first partition, about 100 megs, ext4?
[19:48] <friendy> Does this mean you can not or will not help me now :(?
[19:49] <kvothetech> TLoT: that's more than enough space but yeah....
[19:49] <TLoT> friendy: it means that solving your solution is a bit more tricky
[19:49] <jhutchins_wk> kvothetech: gparted can expand partitions if there is available space.  You need to make a backup any time you're messing with partitions though, and it's actually faster once you've made the backup to just repartition & restore.
[19:49] <TLoT> kvothetech: 50MB sufficient?
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> friendy  you're asking for help with a beta system nobody has ever heard of on a ubuntu version that is no longer supported
[19:49] <garnet> keith_: It's a problem then. Anyway, it you are set on deleting OS X why you need rEFIt? You can just install GRUB from LiveCD (USB) on your hdd.
[19:49] <TLoT> friendy: also what MonkeyDust said
[19:49] <kvothetech> friendy: just find the packages with the versions it wants and install them.
[19:50] <friendy> I don't understand? I keep getting dependency stuff, like Dependency is not satisfiable: alien (>= 8.36)  when I followed the link to the lsb and tried installing it.
[19:50] <kvothetech> TLoT: yeah 50mb is fine...mines 20
[19:50] <andai> My computer won't boot. I had a similar problem before. It says there's no disk space, when I deleted stuff it worked fine. This time it continues to say there is no available disk space even when I delete stuff. I tried to check the filesystem but it keeps telling me it's still mounted (when I try to unmount it it tells me it's not mounted)
[19:50] <TLoT> kvothetech: i like keeping a tad extra space, i'll leave it at 50 then :P
[19:51] <TLoT> kvothetech: i used to do this in my sleep, but it was all ext3, since ext4 seems to be the standard nowadays... :P
[19:51] <friendy> As I literally have no clue what packages to which version it wants, it just wants lsb. I got that dependency error when tryin to install that, so...Mhm.
[19:51] <kvothetech> TLoT: yeah cant wait for the few bugs in btrfs to be fixed.
[19:51] <TLoT> friendy: i would suggest upgrading to a more supported release - 10.10
[19:51] <Jpmh> I want to install ubuntu side-by-side with Windoze on a new compaq - problem is that compaq have set 4 partitions (at least I believe this is the problem) and so I have nowhere to install ubuntu - I need an idiots guide on how to expand/change the limit so ubuntu will install
[19:51] <Catbuntu> What happens if I use an unsupported Ubuntu version?
[19:51] <TLoT> 's no longer updated
[19:51] <Catbuntu> For example 10.10
[19:51] <TLoT> Catbuntu: no security updates, repo issues, newer software FTBFS in it...
[19:51] <jhutchins_wk> friendy: Which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[19:51] <TLoT> etc.
[19:51] <kvothetech> friendly it tells you what version of what it wants when it errors..
[19:52] <Catbuntu> But could I still install thingies from the repos?
[19:52] <andai> concisely: system won't boot, disk claims to be full, remains full when large files deleted, can't check it because it's "mounted", even though I unmount it
[19:52] <TLoT> Catbuntu: only old security-hole-riddled things
[19:52] <TLoT> !eol | Catbuntu
[19:52] <keith_> garnet: Ahh I thought I need it anyway
[19:52] <Catbuntu> thanks
[19:52] <TLoT> Catbuntu: you can use the 'oldreleases' repositories, but...
[19:52] <TLoT> Catbuntu: i strongly advise you use asupported softwrae
[19:52] <jhutchins_wk> andai: Need to boot to a different disk.
[19:52] <tigran> How can I move the min/max/close buttons to the left side in Unity/12.10? Or is this theme specific and not configurable?
[19:52] <kvothetech> friendy: linux is  a lot like bsd in that the core packages and stuff need to be versioned around each other so it all works stabley...
[19:52] <Catbuntu> yep
[19:52] <jhutchins_wk> andai: Rescue disk
[19:53] <Catbuntu> I don't really like Unity.
[19:53] <garnet> keith_: My personal advice is simply not to waste your time and stick to OS X.
[19:53] <friendy> I am using Maverick...
[19:53] <kvothetech> Catbuntu: so don't use it.
[19:53] <Catbuntu> And nothing is lovely as Gnome 2 :(
[19:53] <andai> jhutchins_wk: It's a laptop. I have no different disk. Should I install ubuntu to a USB stick?
[19:53] <friendy> i would upgrade, but I got no USB or CD to use, unless they're is a third way.
[19:53] <Catbuntu> I'm using Cinnamon now
[19:53]  * jhutchins_wk goes to the web to look up Maveric...
[19:53] <jhutchins_wk> andai: Yes, that should work.
[19:54] <kvothetech> friendy: you can update from a previous version just do dist-upgrade...or change the repo's do an update then upgrade...
[19:54] <andai> jhutchins_wk: When I have that set up, how do I fix it?
[19:54] <friendy> Well, I kinda would. But when I did Sudo apt-get update n the stuff
[19:54] <jhutchins_wk> andai: It's possible you have run out of inodes (df -i would show you).
[19:54] <kvothetech> friendy: note that second way you may want to do 1 release updateat a time and test what broke fix it then do it again...
[19:54] <friendy> IT just, kinda, said failed to fetch files
[19:54] <jhutchins_wk> friendy: The problem would appear to be that the package you're trying to install is not compatible with that older version of Ubuntu.
[19:54] <Catbuntu> Which is the more Gnome2-like desktop environment?
[19:54] <Catbuntu> (not MATE)
[19:54] <friendy> I see.
[19:55] <friendy> If I upgrade, it won't screw up my system, will it?
[19:55] <andai> jhutchins_wk: I'll check
[19:55] <jhutchins_wk> friendy: There's always that chance <grin>.
[19:55] <Lartza> Why is apt-get listing me crazy unmet dependencies? Like libkatepartinterfaces4, which I do not have? Trying to remove plymouth
[19:55] <kvothetech> friendy: usually it breaks a few things here and there but nothing unfixable
[19:55] <jhutchins_wk> friendy: Don't go directly from 10.10 to 12.10 though, step through each version.
[19:55] <friendy> Alright. I'll try upgrading then. Do I use the terminal or the GUI update tool? OR does not matter?
[19:55] <kvothetech> Catbuntu: gnome3 in the old view mode
[19:55] <jhutchins_wk> !upgrade
[19:55] <kvothetech> friendy: i use the terminal....but you can use whatever you want.
[19:56] <friendy> Alright, how do I go to each step without a total skip to 12.10? OR does it do it for me, going by through each step?
[19:56] <Catbuntu> kvothetech, that worked fine on 12.04.
[19:56] <andai> jhutchins_wk: 3% IUSE
[19:56] <kvothetech> friendy: when you do the update it'll tell you.
[19:56] <jhutchins_wk> friendy: You need to do each step.  Basically you change the sources.list to the next version name, update, upgrade, repeat.
[19:56] <andai> jhutchins_wk: interestingly, they all return the same number ( cause they're on the same drive? )
[19:56] <Catbuntu> But on 12.10, when I click the window name on the window list, it just gets... highlighted?
[19:56] <Catbuntu> Using the Ambiance and Radiance themes.
[19:57] <friendy> Upgrade to 10.04 then.
[19:57] <Catbuntu> I think it's related to its new thingies and murrine engine.
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> friendy  upgrading to each following version would take forever
[19:57] <zykotick9> jhutchins_wk: warning, ubuntu doesn't use source.list to update to a new version!  friendy
[19:57] <jhutchins_wk> MonkeyDust: it's not safe to jump major versions.
[19:57] <kvothetech> MonkeyDust: eh you don't have to but it doesn't take that much extra time and that way he can fix what broke in each update as he goes along
[19:57] <Catbuntu> Well, I'll see
[19:57] <Catbuntu> Bye
[19:58] <friendy> I got good net, though...Alright, I'm about to use the GUI tool to upgrade. Can I keep Skype/Games/Browser up while updating, or close everything, and do I go from version to version.
[19:58] <kvothetech> MonkeyDust: and he's not stuck with 100 bugs at once.
[19:58] <friendy> And restart after each update?
[19:58] <kvothetech> friendy: you don't have to.
[19:58] <jhutchins_wk> friendy: Yes.  Please do read those guides before you start though..
[19:58] <friendy> Guides?
[19:59] <friendy> I thought it was as simple as pressing a button, and it's all upgraded n nice ?
[19:59] <jhutchins_wk> kvothetech: Need to keep the system in sync with the kernel.
[19:59] <friendy> syn with kernel? Confused...
[19:59] <andai> jhutchins_wk: I tried to e2fsck the drive, it says device does not exist
[19:59] <andai> D:
[19:59] <kvothetech> jhutchins_wk: you don't have to restart to use a new kernel...eassiest method maybe but you don't have to.
[19:59] <jhutchins_wk> andai: fdisk -l
[19:59] <friendy> Alright, upgradin now :)
[19:59] <jhutchins_wk> andai: maybe it's called something else when booted to the USB>
[20:00] <andai> jhutchins_wk: cannot open /proc/partitions
[20:00] <jhutchins_wk> kvothetech: Hot patching a kernel is not usually within the average users's ability.
[20:00] <andai> jhutchins_wk: i'm not on USB yet, i'm trying to find it
[20:00] <zykotick9> jhutchins_wk: andai you need to use "sudo fdisk -l" to see anything.  sidenote "sudo parted -l" has better support.
[20:01] <tigran> How can I move the min/max/close buttons to the left side in Unity/12.10? Or is this theme specific and not configurable?
[20:01] <andai> zykotick9: thanks
[20:02] <jhutchins_wk> andai: Yeah, you do need to boot to the USB.
[20:02] <andai> zykotick9: parted -l, no output. parted, "error: no device found"
[20:02] <andai> Yeah, i'm screwed
[20:02] <jhutchins_wk> zykotick9: Yeah, I always forget sudo.
[20:02] <andai> can i use an ancient ubuntu cd
[20:02] <jhutchins_wk> zykotick9: fdisk is quick and easy (and what I remember).
[20:02] <jhutchins_wk> andai: What filesystem?
[20:03] <escott> andai, are you in a chroot?
[20:03] <mir_> hi
[20:04] <jhutchins_wk> escott: He's on a corrupted system.
[20:04] <UlyssesGa> Hi there!  I'm having a problem dual-booting Windows 8 and Ubuntu 12.04.  Non-UEFI system (so no Secure boot).  Each installation is on its own hard drive, with the Ubuntu drive being the set as the primary bootable device in the system BIOS. (grub2 also situated on linux drive).
[20:04] <zykotick9> jhutchins_wk: i hear you!  i feel like i've "grown up" with fdisk.  for a laugh, read "man fdisk" on a debian system, and the "BUGS" section at the very bottom - VERY informative, including "fdisk is a buggy program that does fuzzy things", and suggests using fdisk as a last resort.
[20:04] <escott> jhutchins_wk, but that shouldnt prevent a file like /proc/partitions from existing
[20:05] <zink> hi all, simple question, but when I find downloads on launchpad, can I apt-get install them or do I have to download them and install manually?
[20:05] <andai> escott: I don't know the meaning of the word
[20:05] <andai> jhutchins_wk: ext4
[20:06] <andai> I found a 512mb usb stick. Looks like I'm using DSL
[20:06] <escott> andai, is anything listed with ls /proc?
[20:07] <andai> escott: lemmecheck
[20:07] <andai> escott: no
[20:07] <UlyssesGa> If Win8 is set as the first bootable HD, it starts fine.  If the Ubuntu drive is chosen as the 1st bootable drive and I attempt to boot to Win 8 from grub, Win8 immediately reboots.
[20:07] <escott> andai, can you paste the output of "mount"
[20:08] <escott> andai, in particular i want to know if proc is mounted on /proc and sysfs on /sys and udev on /dev
[20:09] <TLoT> what evil is this?  "The installer crashed!"
[20:09] <TLoT> in LTS! o.o
[20:09] <andai> escott: Yes, all of those
[20:10] <escott> andai, if proc is mounted on /proc then something should be listed in /proc
[20:10] <andai> escott: Yeah, well, as previously mentioned, nothing is behaving as expected :P
[20:12] <escott> andai, you are going to have to dig through dmesg to figure out what is going on
[20:12] <andai> escott: I haven't used linux in years, now I remember why :D
[20:13] <andai> escott: although I'm pretty sure the laptop's hard drive is just dying
[20:14] <jhutchins_wk> andai: escott means well, but the first thing to do is to boot to some other media and check the disk.
[20:14] <jhutchins_wk> andai: The problem with "really old debian" is that it may not support ext4
[20:14] <jhutchins_wk> andai: or you said really old ubuntu - same deal.
[20:15] <andai> jhutchins_wk: Oh you just reminded me where I moved them, thank you :D
[20:15] <jhutchins_wk> andai: You don't have another system that you can use to download a newer rescue disk?
[20:15] <JonEdney> Is there a graphical way to monitor resource usage such as RAM, on Ubuntu Destkop?
[20:15] <andai> jhutchins_wk: I could mount it in Virtualbox and then install it to USB, but that would still have to be DSL or puppy cause it's a tiny USB
[20:16] <malkauns> JonEdney, ksysguard
[20:16] <jhutchins_wk> andai: No cds?
[20:16] <sakkemo> Hi, would this be sensible for HDD+SSD setup? SSD: / and /home, HDD: swap (for hibernate), /home subfolders (Downloads, Videos etc.), which would be mounted in /home.
[20:16] <andai> jhutchins_wk: let me see if i can find the old ubuntu CDs
[20:17] <jhutchins_wk> JonEdney: ksysguard for kde, there are a bunch of different monitors.
[20:17] <JonEdney> Ty for the recommendation, malkauns
[20:17] <malkauns> np
[20:18] <CT1> Hi. Using Chrome with the pepper flash plugin.  With the adobe plugin I could find the "(deleted)" video streams using "lsof | grep Flash" for example.  With the pepper api it seems I need root to lsof and therefore open said files in /proc/$pid$/fd/ (which now belong to root.)  That's all fine if I wan't to wait for the stream to fully buffer then cp and chown, my problem is I use it for audio sync.  I run vlc /proc/pid/fd/x and watch while it b
[20:18] <andai> jhutchins_wk: you helped me find a DVD with some music my friend burned for me a few years ago. Thank you!
[20:18] <jrib> JonEdney: gnome-system-monitor
[20:19] <andai> does ubuntu still send people install CDs?
[20:19] <andai> :D
[20:20] <andai> jhutchins_wk: ok i found 7.04 I'll see if it runs :D
[20:20] <xangua> andai: only if you buy them
[20:21] <andai> xangua: They used to be free, though, right?
[20:21] <andai> Oh... So I'm booting 7.04... but ext4 was released in 2008, right?
[20:21] <andai> can I upgrade the package I need to check the drive from the live-CD, like into RAM?
[20:22] <xangua> andai: yeah...free for you, not for them :P you always had the option to buy them
[20:24] <andai> I guess they stopped shipping them when demand grew exponentially? :D
[20:24] <andai> ohh that was only in late 2011
[20:24] <eXcAliBuR> i'm trying to set a static ip the way I always have before editing the interfaces file, however it won't bring up the interface, using the latest ubuntu server
[20:25] <andai> jhutchins_wk: oh god, the liveCD can't boot either, X fails to start
[20:25] <andai> jhutchins_wk: that was the first/main problem, I noticed the thing with the drive later
[20:26] <andai> it might just be that the graphics card didn't exist when this live CD was created?
[20:26] <andai> :/
[20:28] <CT1> Should I ask my question in vlc, chrome, chromium, some kernel switches, adobe.... support instead? I don't know where to start (after trying to google keywords I thought would lead me on the right path)
[20:30] <CT1> Perhaps a better question... Where can I read up on how an app launched as "me" can spawn processes that are owned by root?
[20:31] <CT1> *by "me"
[20:31] <jrib> CT1: why...?
[20:31] <skorpio> is it possible to install vlc 2.0 under lucid?
[20:32] <jrib> !info vlc lucid
[20:32] <CT1> jrib: Did you see my original Q? should I pm you?
[20:32] <jrib> skorpio: I would be surprised if you couldn't find a ppa for it
[20:32] <jrib> CT1: just repeat it here
[20:33] <CT1> Hi. Using Chrome with the pepper flash plugin.  With the adobe plugin I could find the "(deleted)" video streams using "lsof | grep Flash" for example.  With the pepper api it seems I need root to lsof and therefore open said files in /proc/pid/fd/ (which now belong to root.)  That's all fine if I want to wait for the stream to fully buffer then cp and chown, my problem is I use it for audio sync.  I run vlc /proc/pid/fd/x and watch while it buff
[20:33] <skorpio> jrib: that seams to be the problem.. those i found dont contain 2.0
[20:34] <droidboi> I am trying to get the XMonad window manager to work
[20:34] <droidboi> Sadly, on re-lgin I still get gnome
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> CT1  i guess the people in #ubuntustudio are more familiar with that sort of issues
[20:35] <jrib> droidboi: install xmonad, select xmonad from the session list at the login screen
[20:36] <droidboi> jrib: I pretty much did all that
[20:36] <jrib> droidboi: what did you select at the login screen?
[20:36] <jrib> CT1: can't you cp as your user?
[20:37] <droidboi> jrib: actually, I am running Mint 11 - and I make the Window Manager selection using the Login Admin Tool
[20:37] <CT1> MonkeyDust: Perhaps.  Just that there are far more people here. New users or not, there's always been an almost 100% success rate in here for me (from "noob" to mild enthusiast)
[20:37] <jrib> skorpio: is there a reason you don't just upgrade to precise (12.04) since lucid will be unsupported by april anyway?  I also don't see a lucid ppa for vlc 2.  It could be that the dependencies are not satisfied for it (guess)
[20:37] <jrib> !mint | droidboi
[20:38] <bipul> http://pastebin.com/9diCpsHU Any one know why i am getting this warning.
[20:39] <skorpio> jrib: yea i dont like gnome3 yet
[20:39] <eXcAliBuR> hahaha i found my error
[20:39] <jrib> skorpio: you can use gnome fallback (or classic; I forget what it's name).  You can also try lubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop
[20:39] <droidboi> jrib: OK, Thx
[20:40] <eXcAliBuR> I tried giving an ip of 256
[20:40] <eXcAliBuR> :P
[20:40] <CT1> jrib: I can, but only as root (when using googles' pepper flash) With adobe "old" flash plugin the /proc/pid/fd/* files are belong to us.  As I said, I can find where the locally stored flash video is stored with pepper, but can't directly launch vlc to play it while it buff's.
[20:41] <jrib> CT1: what are the permissions on it?
[20:41] <skorpio> jrib: yea i was thinking about xubuntu but actually just need a quick sollution to play .smil videos...
[20:42] <jrib> skorpio: I don't know what those are, but maybe try mplayer
[20:43] <CT1> the PID is my user, but even doing an lsof -p PID  doesn't show the (deleted) files.  I need to sudo lsof.  I can't even cd to the /proc/PID/fd directory as me.  All my files are belong to root (forgive the second reference to "all your base")
[20:45] <jpitts> anyone else having startup issues with dropbox and 12.10?
[20:48] <kingbeast> good day everyone
[20:50] <kingbeast> was there a net-split or something?
[20:50] <CT1> I'm not completely stuck (I can simply disable googles' pepper flash in about:plugins and use adobe, which I CAN then see the (deleted) files in /proc/pid/fd and use them without privilege elevation) I'm simply curious about how the pepper plugin can command such power over me.  Also adobe will not be upgrading for linux, only security patches will be handed our way.  I wanted to adopt googles pepper flash early with that in mind, yet still keep
[20:51] <coz_> does anyone have solutions for the screen flickering in 12.04 and 12.10 with nouveau each time an application is opened and closed? I have pretty   much exhausted online bug reports etc
[20:51] <jorgp> anyone else having startup issues with dropbox and 12.10?
[20:53] <jrib> CT1: yeah, I don't know.  Seems strange
[20:54] <three18ti> how can I split really long host names in the named config file?  I'm running into this issue http://razzed.com/2009/03/05/dkim-txt-records-in-dns-exceeding-255-characters/ except in my case, it's really long host names
[20:56] <markovh> any screenshot software out there that'll let me drag a box around the screen to take a screenshot of that?
[20:56] <Mind_> I have a HP 1TB AMD 3800 with Radeon and I am a little confuse about what torrent choose: AMD64 or i86. Who can tell me this?
[20:57] <kingbeast> Mind_: how much Ram do you have in it?
[20:57] <Mind_> kingbeast, 6GB and I have sure that my system is 64bit..
[20:57] <Ben64> then choose 64
[20:57] <kingbeast> Mind_: get the amd64
[20:58] <Mind_> Thank you guys..
[20:58] <kingbeast> np Mind_
[20:59] <markovh> nvm btw, shutter seems to be what i'm looking for
[20:59] <CT1> jrib: It's a daunting task when you don't grok at least some of the layers (or how it's layered for that matter) of a GNU/Linux system.  Is it a kernel thing? I had the same frustration getting an IR controller to work:  Where does X fit, where the kernel, is it a gnome thing... etc...  Thankfully it's all becoming easier for us "enthusiasts" but is it therefore becoming that oh so much more complex when things "break"? rhetorical question of cou
[21:00] <xzased> does anyone know if I can check to protocol (static or dhcp) from the ip or ifconfig command?
[21:03] <Mind_> One more thing. I am now bootted with livecd 12.04 and i have back track in dual boot with Ubuntu 12.10 crashed. If a take the live cd and try use to burn the download i will can or not?
[21:03] <Mind_> One more thing. I am now bootted with livecd 12.04 and i have back track in dual boot with Ubuntu 12.10 crashed. If I remove the live cd and try use to burn the download i will can or not?
[21:05] <kingbeast> Mind_: idk I have never tried it that way
[21:08] <kittenmittens> mm hello ::)
[21:08] <Mind_> kingbeast, I do not know if have the possibility of still "trying" the ubuntu and remove the live cd to use my DVD driver to create the image to boot!
[21:08] <kittenmittens> in the middle of reinstalling windows, no luck with ubuntu
[21:09] <kingbeast> Mind_: I believe it will tell you to reinsert the boot disk
[21:09] <kittenmittens> is there a program i can use to creat an iso of a disk?
[21:10] <kittenmittens> anyone?
[21:10] <genoobie> okay
[21:10] <genoobie> I give up
[21:11] <kittenmittens> what are you giving up on geniibie
[21:11] <genoobie> kittenmittens, I am trying to install lubuntu
[21:11] <kittenmittens> mm?
[21:11] <genoobie> brb sorry
[21:13] <Mind_> kingbeast: Probably! I tried in the backtrack but I still cannot. the image is created in dvd and does not boot! I do not know what happened.
[21:15] <kingbeast> Mind_: use another computer to download it if you have access to another one.
[21:15] <bekks> Mind_: Did you burn the image or did you create a new data dvd with the image file as its content?
[21:16] <kittenmittens> i need a program that will let me make an iso of a disk please
[21:16] <bekks> kittenmittens: dd
[21:16] <kittenmittens> ?
[21:17] <bekks> kittenmittens: The program name is "dd".
[21:17] <bekks> kittenmittens: Using dd, you can create an iso image when having a cd/dvd disk.
[21:18] <Mind_> bekks: I know that have to choose, but, the program maybe do not make the content.. Did not show this in menu and in nowhere!
[21:18] <Mind_> kingbeast: I do not!
[21:18] <bekks> Mind_: So which program did you use?
[21:20] <genoobie> kittenmittens, sorry I had a family thing for a min
[21:20] <genoobie> well the basic idea is this
[21:20] <genoobie> 12.10 lubuntu install fails to recog vga hardware
[21:20] <genoobie> xubuntu livecd 12.04 works OK
[21:20] <genoobie> so what gives?
[21:20] <Mind_> bekks: The name is: CD and DVD CREATOR. the icon of the program is a little pen drive. I have it in back track KDE.
[21:20] <nomodeset> Are ther any replacement to seahorse-plugins pack in 12.04?
[21:21] <genoobie> kittenmittens, that's the issue
[21:21] <bekks> Mind_: I never used backtrack, sorry. I guess there is some "Help" or "About" menu entry when starting that application.
[21:21] <nomodeset> sure!
[21:22] <nomodeset> Are there any replacement to seahorse-plugins pack in 12.04?
[21:23] <Billybeagle> so im having sftp problems connecting to my ubuntu 12.04 server.          I had it all set up yesterday with a sftponly user and uploaded my site. Now im getting can not connect to host in dreamweaver. however my primary root user account can connect to host.
[21:23] <Mind_> bekks: Do not have this there! I will try again and see. Thank you for the support!
[21:23] <nomodeset> Are there any replacement to seahorse-plugins pack in 12.04? please
[21:26] <Seven_Six_Two> what is the envelope called that holds social stuff in unity?
[21:26] <erinem1> Alguém fala Português BRasil aqui ?
[21:27] <MonkeyDust> !pt
[21:28] <trism> Seven_Six_Two: indicator-messages
[21:28] <Seven_Six_Two> trism, thanks
[21:28] <kittenmittens> oh ffs
[21:28] <Mind_> kengbeast: I removed the LiveCD and is working normally! Weird? Maybe..  And you.. Do not speak in english dumbass?
[21:31] <Mind_> LOL
[21:31] <nomodeset> Mind_: please keep the language appropriate
[21:31] <mojtaba> Hi
[21:31] <Seven_Six_Two> I had removed empathy when I first upgraded to 12.10 because it kept crashing. I've just reinstalled it, but it's not included in indicator menu. Is there another package that I should install? I don't see empathy-indicator
[21:31] <nomodeset> kittenmittens: and easier
[21:31] <Mind_> nomodeset: Sorry!
[21:32] <mojtaba> I have just recently installed ubuntu on my laptop (Studio Dell 1555), but the fan is always working
[21:32] <ironhalik> Seven_Six_Two: I think you need to run it at least once from the dash
[21:32] <Seven_Six_Two> ironhalik, it's running now
[21:32] <_helios_> kittenmittens: Ubuntu is 100x better than Windows for many reasons probably to many to list in this channel.
[21:32] <nomodeset> _helios_: I agree
[21:32] <kittenmittens> im jsut not seeing it.. because windows is more stable.. has infinitly more support hardware wise and software..
[21:33] <Seven_Six_Two> ironhalik, only gwibber and thunderbird are listed in indicator menu. maybe I have to log out?
[21:33] <ironhalik> Seven_Six_Two: should get autoadded to messeging menu after first run. If it did not, I'm clueless
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> kittenmittens  start here http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/
[21:33] <nomodeset> kittenmittens: But this is not windows, is hardware support
[21:33] <ironhalik> Seven_Six_Two: you can always try
[21:33] <mojtaba> I have just recently installed ubuntu on my laptop (Studio Dell 1555), but the fan is always working
[21:33] <kittenmittens> windows will start after you install it no matter what, if you install with a clean cd
[21:33] <h00k> kittenmittens: you can use Brasero to create an image of a CD
[21:33] <kittenmittens> no i cant
[21:33] <llutz> !ot  stop that stupid "X is better than Y", OS-Fanboy discussion in offtopic please
[21:34] <h00k> kittenmittens: are you getting some sort of error when you try?
[21:34] <kittenmittens> brasero wants me to make the image file im writing to to be bigger..
[21:34] <nomodeset> llutz: Are there any replacement to seahorse-plugins pack in 12.04? please
[21:35] <h00k> kittenmittens: to be bigger than what?
[21:35] <mojtaba> I have just recently installed ubuntu on my laptop (Studio Dell 1555), but the fan is always working
[21:35] <mojtaba> Do you know what should I do?
[21:35] <kittenmittens> i dont know
[21:35] <nomodeset> mojtaba: shotdown your machine
[21:35] <mojtaba> register | nomodeset
[21:36] <kittenmittens> just another illogical bug with ubuntu, im installing windows on my pc now, i just need an iso of my drivers disk
[21:36] <mojtaba> !register | nomodeset
[21:36] <kittenmittens> i tryed ubunut ofor over a week, tryed to get it install that is, without messing up and and killing itself
[21:36] <jolaren> trying to find information on however it's dangerous to name a user backup. If perhaps the system already uses this name?
[21:36] <h00k> kittenmittens: I've used Brasero, click "Disc Copy," enter a filename you want it to save to, and it will create an ISO of the disc
[21:36] <nomodeset> ubottu: Why?
[21:37] <kittenmittens> ubottu care to dance?
[21:37] <kittenmittens> ubottu: care to dance?
[21:37] <h00k> Please do not abuse the bot
[21:37] <kittenmittens> im not
[21:37] <llutz> jolaren: at least debian has a user/group named backup
[21:37] <gskellig> The brightness keys do not change the brightness on my laptop with ubuntu 12.10.  Google search at least comes up with nothing
[21:38] <nomodeset> gskellig: you hace to install "Additional Drivers" pack
[21:38] <gskellig> oh alright
[21:38] <gskellig> one sec
[21:38] <llutz> jolaren: getent group backup ; getent passwd backup               to check
[21:38] <jolaren> llutz: hmm.. but when i wrote adduser backup it didn't prompt for errors.. but i had to run passwd after adduser
[21:39] <nomodeset> gskellig: Yeah, i found a forum wich sais that it is no longer in gnome 3
[21:39] <jolaren> llutz: backup:x:34:34:backup:/var/backups:/bin/sh
[21:39] <gskellig> where can I get to the additional drivers?
[21:40] <nomodeset> gskellig: Software center
[21:40] <gskellig> not used to unity
[21:40] <jolaren> llutz: so the group existz in ubuntu,,
[21:40] <przemek> hello do you know
[21:40] <przemek> drac dell default login
[21:40] <przemek> and passworD?
[21:40] <jolaren> llutz: if i added a password to that user on the server.. would it cause thinks that controls the backup to fail?
[21:40] <llutz> jolaren: thats a user you pasted
[21:41] <Mind_> I need open the Download path from livecd and i do not have permission. How can I open it?
[21:41] <jolaren> llutz: oh, so ubuntu has a user named backup
[21:41] <nomodeset> gskellig: Search "Additional drivers" at the software center
[21:42] <llutz> jolaren: the command above should have given you 2 lines output, 1st is a group, 2nd the user
[21:42] <ironhalik> my TP x220 running ubuntu is drawing ~20W of power for some reason
[21:42] <ironhalik> at idle/low load
[21:42] <gskellig> doesnt show up nomodeset
[21:42] <jolaren> llutz: both equals "backup:x:34:34:backup:/var/backups:/bin/sh
[21:43] <nomodeset> run in a terminal "sudo aptitude update"
[21:43] <gskellig> but "ubuntu-drivers-common" is already installed (and updated)
[21:43] <nomodeset> or "sudo apt-get-update"
[21:43] <jolaren> llutz: im afraid that i might have broken some services by setting a password to "backup" user
[21:43] <llutz> jolaren: thats odd, a group shouldn't have a homedir/shell set
[21:43] <nomodeset> gskellig: it does not matter
[21:44] <jolaren> llutz: do you think that's a possability? ^
[21:44] <llutz> jolaren: i'm not sure, but i wonder why you havent got any error/warning when creating the (existing) user
[21:44] <gskellig> still nothing
[21:44] <nomodeset> llutz: it is really extrange
[21:45] <gskellig> ah got it
[21:45] <nomodeset> gskellig: what happend?
[21:46] <gskellig> apt-get was installed not aptitude
[21:46] <gskellig> installed aptitude and updated and it showed up in software center
[21:46] <llutz> !aptitude | gskellig
[21:46] <nomodeset> gskellig: "Addi.. Drivers"?
[21:47] <gskellig> yeah I know what aptitude is -_- lol thanks llutz
[21:47] <nomodeset> ubottu: Are you a bot?
[21:47] <Narel> Hi
[21:47] <gskellig> its installing now, thanks guys
[21:47] <Mind_> I need open the Download path from livecd and i do not have permission. How can I open it?
[21:47] <Narel> I've some problems to build gnash with vaapi support
[21:47] <nomodeset> llutz: you have to pay me!
[21:47] <nomodeset> gskellig: you have to pay me!
[21:48] <llutz> gskellig: if you would have read ubottus msg, you would have seen that its not an explanation of aptitude, its a warning you should be aware of
[21:48] <Narel> I have all dependencies I think, configure is correct but there is an error in make
[21:48] <nomodeset> gskellig: X)
[21:49] <llutz> jolaren: i don't think it breaks things, you just have to be aware of the fact, that the user "backup" is able to login now
[21:49] <nomodeset> ubottu: oh my god
[21:49] <Narel> Hihttp://pastebin.com/Rnwp3j8A
[21:49] <MonkeyDust> nomodeset  stop being funny
[21:49] <llutz> MonkeyDust: where do you see the troll being funny?
[21:49] <Narel> http://pastebin.com/Rnwp3j8A sorry
[21:50] <nomodeset> MonkeyDust: Is OSS not a joke?
[21:50] <Mind_> MonkeyDust: I need open the Download path from livecd and I do not have permission. How can I open it?
[21:50] <nomodeset> llutz: pfff
[21:51] <Narel> Anybody has a solution
[21:51] <Narel> ?
[21:52] <washuu_de> ubottu: tell washuu_de about msgthebot
[21:52] <h00k> Narel: I would talk to the maintainers of gnash and check their documentation
[21:54] <nomodeset> Mind_: You can't!
[21:54] <Narel> yes h00k beacause I want to obtain hardware accel with gnash, I think it's solving hardware accel in all GPUs
[21:55] <Narel> for all GPUs
[21:55] <xubuntu06> hi
[21:56] <xubuntu06> I have an atheros wireless chip which will not un
[21:56] <nomodeset> Mind_: You have to use a live cd
[21:56] <xubuntu06> The Atheros chipset will not run
[21:56] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1590886/
[21:57] <fishcooker> i cant change my resolution screen
[21:57] <nomodeset> xubuntu06: is ther any linux driver for it?
[21:57] <fishcooker> is there any solution
[21:57] <xubuntu06> @nomodeset do you want me to post the output of lspci
[21:57] <hplc> nomodeset, isnt there kldload ath?
[21:58] <nomodeset> xubuntu06: you don't have to
[21:59] <nomodeset> fishcooker: there is no enough information
[21:59] <xubuntu06> Atheros Communications Inc. AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter
[21:59] <fishcooker> what kind of information nomodeset
[21:59] <nomodeset> fishcooker: the problem is ambiguos
[22:00] <xubuntu06> @nomodeset the chip is Atheros Communications Inc. AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter
[22:00] <fishcooker> i can't change resolution for my box
[22:00] <fishcooker> so i tell you all that my chip is nvidia
[22:01] <fishcooker> because after i can't  change the resolution
[22:01] <fishcooker> it directs to nvdia x server setting
[22:01] <nomodeset> fishcooker: have you installed the propietary driver?
[22:01] <fishcooker> i've installed from apt
[22:01] <nomodeset> fishcooker: You have to run nvidia config
[22:02] <nomodeset> xubuntu06: Install "Additional drivers" from software center
[22:03] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1590907/
[22:03] <phoenixsampras> ive been using Fedora, since now than im using Ubuntu, and ive noticed UNITY is SLOW as hell, even i installed nvidia drivers..... still slow... what can i do to improve performance?
[22:03] <fishcooker> there is no nvidia-config nomodeset
[22:03] <mojtaba> I have just recently installed ubuntu on my laptop (Studio Dell 1555), but the fan is always working
[22:03] <mojtaba> Do you know what should I do?
[22:03] <nomodeset> nvidia-settings as root
[22:03] <nomodeset> mojtaba: recently
[22:04] <mojtaba> nomodeset: ??
[22:04] <xubuntu06> @nomodeset why in ubuntu 12.04 the wireless works and in xubuntu it's being  a pain
[22:05] <nomodeset> mojtaba: Do you have installed any additional pack?
[22:05] <_helios_> xubuntu06: did you switch from 32bit to 64bit?
[22:05] <mojtaba> nomodeset: no
[22:05] <nomodeset> mojtaba: Well it is really estrange?
[22:06] <mojtaba> nomodeset: The fan is always working.
[22:06] <mojtaba> I do not know why!
[22:06] <MarkShuttleworth> I HAVE RETURNED
[22:07] <Wulf> Hello!
[22:07] <Wulf> how can I automatically install usb printers?
[22:07] <MarkShuttleworth> try looking at some amazon ads
[22:07] <Wulf> so the user only needs to plug it in and click "print"
[22:07] <MarkShuttleworth> im mark shuttleworth, i know how to do this
[22:08] <mojtaba> I am using ubuntu 12.10 64x.
[22:08] <fishcooker> nomodeset: there are 3 resolution option
[22:08] <nomodeset> mojtaba: it is normal, but run "gnome-system-monitor" and check your cpu's load
[22:08] <MarkShuttleworth> Wulf: moar amazon ads is a good place to start
[22:08] <mojtaba> nomodeset: Thank you
[22:08] <fishcooker> auto; 640x; 320x
[22:08] <fishcooker> no 1024x*
[22:08] <nomodeset> fishcooker: it sucks
[22:08] <Wulf> MarkShuttleworth: but Pinky, how will this solve my problem?
[22:08] <fishcooker> LoL
[22:08] <mojtaba> nomodeset: even when not under load, the fan is working with full spead.
[22:08] <_helios_> lol
[22:09] <MarkShuttleworth> amazon ads are what ubuntu is all about now
[22:09] <fishcooker> but thankyou nomodeset
[22:09] <fishcooker> you are the best
[22:09] <xangua> !ops | MarkShuttleworth
[22:09] <nomodeset> mojtaba: I think that you don't have to worry about that, check the temperature of your laptop
[22:10] <MarkShuttleworth> halp
[22:10] <nomodeset> fishcooker: I'm not
[22:11] <fishcooker> yes, you have tried to solve our problem here
[22:11] <fishcooker> :-)
[22:12] <fishcooker> keep up the good job
[22:13] <nomodeset> fishcooker: Try with "sudo nvidia-settings"
[22:13] <mojtaba> nomodeset: It uses battery very much and also the fan is over loaded comparing windows, unfortunately.
[22:14] <fishcooker> yes i have
[22:15] <andai> jhutchins_wk: OK finally got a live CD working, doing a check on the partition
[22:15] <fishcooker> that's why i told you the option of resolution beber
[22:15] <fishcooker> *before
[22:15] <nomodeset> mojtaba: Well, it passed to me when I have not installed propietary drivers, but the cpu load was full
[22:16] <mojtaba> nomodeset: I have installed propietary drivers
[22:16] <nomodeset> mojtaba: estranger
[22:16] <mojtaba> !
[22:17] <Akuma> hello, where can I find open vpn client logs?
[22:20] <nomodeset> fishcooker: go to nvidia website and download linux drivers
[22:21] <fishcooker> ok thanks for the follow up .. yes i will
[22:22] <Ben64> don't use the drivers from the website, there are perfectly good ones in the standard ubuntu repository
[22:24] <Woozie> hello, i have the problem with nvidia proprietary drivers on 3.x kernel, i wrote everything on the nvidia forums, can I post a link?
[22:24] <nomodeset> Ben64: there is an option
[22:24] <nomodeset> Woozie: no
[22:25] <nomodeset> :-)
[22:25] <fishcooker> btw nomodeset how about the
[22:25] <nomodeset> fishcooker: what?
[22:26] <fishcooker> the old package
[22:26] <fishcooker> from apt-get install
[22:26] <fishcooker> should i remvoe it first
[22:27] <nomodeset> fishcooker: nvidia installer will do
[22:27]  * mojtaba help please
[22:27] <Woozie> the problem is that everything works fine, but on 2.6 kernel - on 3.x i have an error "NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidia0 (Input/output error)", in kern.log nvidia spits out the "nvrm: failed to copy vbios to system memory" errors. Every single Google result with this error is connected to Bumblebee, but i don't have Optimus on my laptop.
[22:28] <Woozie> My hardware is: Lenovo IdeaPad Y550 with GeForce GT240M
[22:28] <fishcooker> which version n model installer for mine
[22:28] <fishcooker> ?
[22:29] <fishcooker> it's built up gpu on the board
[22:29] <nomodeset> fishcooker: ah
[22:29] <Woozie> i can send xorg logs, kern.log and xorg.conf (unfortunately from Fedora, but i installed Ubuntu firstly and the problem was the same) right now
[22:30] <Ubuntu> Can anybody help me?
[22:30] <fishcooker> GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
[22:30] <fishcooker> on my lshw
[22:30] <nomodeset> fishcooker: it is
[22:30] <Woozie> i am fighting with this for three months, wrote on askubuntu, nvidia and mint forums and nothing
[22:30] <nomodeset> Woozie: it is hard
[22:30] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: What have you been fighting with?
[22:31] <nomodeset> Woozie: give us the forums links
[22:31] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica: with my problem, i wrote about this just after You connected
[22:31] <Woozie> http://askubuntu.com/questions/197040/nvidia-proprietary-driver-logging-me-to-console-instead-of-gui
[22:31] <Woozie> https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/528489/geforce-mobile-gpus/linux-gt240m-versus-3-x-kernel-fight-failed-to-copy-vbios-to-system-memory-/
[22:32] <Woozie> and wait a sec, i'll just find that mint forums post
[22:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: OK, this is such a common issue. What have you done already?
[22:32] <Guest80282> Why the fan is working full loaded?
[22:32] <Guest80282> New installed, ubuntu 12.10 64x
[22:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest80282, could you rephrase that? That was a little hard to understand.
[22:33] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica: have done the nouveau blacklisting/removal, installing different nvidia drivers (from the ubuntu repo, from that edgers repo and from nvidia site)
[22:33] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica: i was experimenting with ACPI and IOMMU kernel flags
[22:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: Have you been able to activate them via jocket?
[22:33] <Guest80282> SonikkuAmerica: I have installed newly the ubuntu 12.10 64x and when nothing is running the fan is always running fully loaded.
[22:34] <SonikkuAmerica> *jockey?
[22:34] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica: I don't know what do you mean
[22:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest80282, so your computer's fan is going overtime while nothing is running.
[22:34] <Guest80282> SonikkuAmerica: yes
[22:35] <nomodeset> Guest80282: the same problem of mojtaba
[22:35] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest80282, sounds like a hardware issue. Tell me a little about the machine you're trying to run it on.
[22:35] <Guest80282> SonikkuAmerica: Dell Studio 1555
[22:36] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie, After installing a third-party driver (repo or otherwise), you needto activate it via "Additional Drivers" or type [ sudo jockey ] in a terminal.
[22:36] <nomodeset> Guest80282: You're mojtaba
[22:36] <SonikkuAmerica> *need to
[22:37] <nomodeset> jockey-kde
[22:37] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica: Hmm, i didn't tried that. Wait a second, i'll log in on IRC from phone and reboot into 3.x.
[22:37] <SonikkuAmerica> Or jockey-gtk or just jockey
[22:37] <nomodeset> Woozie: Wow
[22:38] <folorn> I'm having a problem if anyone has time to help me with it: i need to repair my packages but forgot how any help would be great.. :)
[22:39] <nomodeset> folorn: type "man apt-get" and read it
[22:40] <folorn> thanks nomodeset
[22:47] <cookiesandjuice> Hi, is anyone there?
[22:47] <nkzz978> yep
[22:47] <cookiesandjuice> lol hey
[22:47] <taz1232> yea im still here
[22:47] <SQLWorld> Waaasssup
[22:47] <cookiesandjuice> uh, i'm an ubuntu newbie, and i'm having issues trying to use my wifi
[22:48] <cookiesandjuice> do you guys think you could help me?
[22:48] <Woozie> At last, logged in.
[22:49] <cookiesandjuice> Uh, hello?
[22:49] <taz1232> just say whats the problem
[22:49] <SQLWorld> What version of Unbuntu are you using? Cookies
[22:50] <mrsudoer> Welp, it was a lot easier installing ubuntu than installing fedora...
[22:50] <zooz> is there a way to prevent a service from starting after package installation?
[22:51] <cookiesandjuice> I can't connect to wifi - I've tried to enable the proprietary driver for my wireless card, but nothing happens
[22:53] <nomodeset> Press the wireless button
[22:53] <nomodeset> Help me please: "su: Authentication failure"
[22:53] <L3top> cookiesandjuice: lspci -nn | grep -Ei '(wlan|wireless|802)'
[22:54] <SQLWorld> does anybody talk on this thing? im new to this.
[22:55] <cookiesandjuice> lol, yeah, i'm new too. they're here.
[22:56] <Ramtron> Hi
[22:56] <SQLWorld> :CookiesandJuice: what version of unbuntu are you using??
[22:56] <SonikkuAmerica> nomodeset: Why are you using su?
[22:56] <Ramtron> My harddrive died recently... So I used my old one, but couldn't install windows 7 because it had no drivers. Luckily I had a Ubuntu 12.04 disc laying around. Does anyone know how to get all my drivers back? Preferably on Windows 7........
[22:57] <nomodeset> SonikkuAmerica: I want to change to my root status
[22:57] <nomodeset> Ramtron: You can call to microsoft
[22:58] <Ramtron> Why would I do that?
[22:58] <L3top> Ramtron: typically one would go to the websites of the hardware and download the drivers for the specific models.
[22:58] <SonikkuAmerica> nomodeset: use [ sudo -i ]
[22:58] <Ramtron> I can't, I can't install Windows 7 at all without drivers
[22:58] <SonikkuAmerica> nomodeset: Then you can mess with your machine as much as you want
[22:58] <Ramtron> I can use Ubuntu of course, but I'd prefer not to since I can't use Skype for school on here
[22:58] <Ben64> !skype | Ramtron
[22:59] <L3top> Ramtron: the point is... this is not an ubuntu question... it is a windows question. Getting your windows OS going is not within the scope of this channel
[22:59] <nomodeset> SonikkuAmerica: Yeah, or [sudo -s] but why su doesnot run
[22:59] <Ben64> !root | nomodeset
[22:59] <Ramtron> I know :( but I need help I know you guys have the ability to do that
[22:59] <Ben64> Ramtron: try ##windows
[22:59] <Ramtron> And I know I can USE Skype, but my webcam was built in my laptop updise down so it's annoying
[22:59] <rypervenche> LOL
[23:00] <rypervenche> nomodeset: You CAN set a root password if you really want, but by default there is none.
[23:01] <jhutchins_wk> Ramtron: I haven't had a Windows machine since 2003 or 2004.
[23:01] <L3top> Ramtron: I am afraid you need another channel. Let's pretend you made widgets. Your widget competition is largely incompetent, but largely popular. Does it become your burden to support your competition's widgets?
[23:01] <nomodeset> rypervenche: There s more protection without password: a pradox!
[23:01] <jhutchins_wk> Ramtron: You can probably get the drivers, and possibly a restore disk, from your hardware manufacturer.
[23:01] <nomodeset> rypervenche: How can i do it?
[23:01] <Ramtron> I have a restore disc but there's no drivers on it
[23:01] <Ramtron> apparently
[23:01] <Ben64> nomodeset: it is not recommended, you should just use sudo
[23:02] <L3top> Ramtron: That does not affect the position here. /join ##windows
[23:02] <SonikkuAmerica> nomodeset: The [ su ] command doesn't work unless you set a password for the user "root."
[23:02] <zoom> good evening
[23:02] <nomodeset> Ben64: yeah, yeah! but how can i do it?
[23:02] <Ben64> nomodeset: by using sudo
[23:02] <Woozie> nomodeset: sudo passwd root
[23:02] <Ramtron> Can you please just help, instead? It's very important, no one's answering there
[23:02] <rypervenche> nomodeset: You can do "sudo -i" to get the same thing done.  You're not getting paid
[23:03] <nomodeset> SonikkuAmerica: Ben64: rypervenche: Thanks a lot guys
[23:03] <Ben64> you come into an ubuntu chat for windows support, how about you grow up
[23:03] <SonikkuAmerica> !civil
[23:03] <L3top> Ramtron: nor are they in ##windows...
[23:03] <nomodeset> Ramtron: thanks for your advice
[23:03] <Ramtron> Well, grow up regardless. See ya
[23:04] <zoom> hmm... makes me want to walk into an apple store to get an android app installed ;-)
[23:04] <rypervenche> L3top: Sounds like you need a better operating system
[23:04] <L3top> Ramtron: I have so many heartbeats in my chest. I will not field your paid product support for free.
[23:04] <rypervenche> errr
[23:04] <L3top> !ot
[23:04] <rypervenche> wrong person ;;
[23:05] <nomodeset> rypervenche: how can i call to ubottu
[23:05] <nomodeset> ?
[23:05] <rypervenche> nomodeset: /query ubottu
[23:06] <nomodeset> rypervenche: thanks
[23:06] <zoom> anyone up for some powermanagement / "it wont standby/sleep/hibertnate at all" issues?
[23:06] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, it'll take some time, need to install Ubuntu
[23:06] <Ben64> zoom: usually the answer to that is "don't sleep/standby/hibernate"
[23:06] <tigran> If someone is running unity, can you confirm something for, please. Using keyboard shortcuts to lower volume, lower your volume all the way until the bar doesn't show anymore. Then press lower volume one more time, does the bar show full now?
[23:07] <tigran> Also, which package handles that so I can take a look at the source
[23:08] <zoom> its a laptop on xubuntu quantal
[23:08] <zoom> and before you send me to #xubuntu, a ubuntu lts live disk behaved the same
[23:08] <noobe> I run Windows and Linux in vmware player. Something happen and i cant "paste" from one machine to another. I can paste from windows to my host OS.
[23:08] <noobe> How to fix that ?
[23:09] <Sara> needed to reinstall my win 7 used boot repair to boot into windows again. it erased grub2 now don't know how to recover ubuntu. please don't give me boot repair link need more help
[23:09] <nomodeset> tigran: Using keyboard shortcuts to lower volume, lower your volume all the way until the bar doesn't show anymore. not the other
[23:09] <nomodeset> Sara: google it please
[23:09] <nomodeset> Sara: that is a well known issue
[23:10] <tigran> nomodeset: I'm not sure what you're saying
[23:10] <Sara> I did it gives boot repair link
[23:10] <Celso> People, When i open software center, isn't suposed to use de icon that already is on the bar and not opening another? or when open, it uses another icon?
[23:10] <Ben64> !google | nomodeset
[23:10] <Sara> I fail to follow the procedure in boot repair link it says the partition does not exist
[23:10] <Ben64> Sara: we've been over this many many times. use boot repair and give the pastebin link at the end
[23:10] <zoom> hmm... i think ive come to the wrong neighbourhood... random people, random questions flying about
[23:11] <nomodeset> Ben64: ubottu: oki
[23:11] <Sara> http://pastebin.com/8ttDbTV6
[23:11] <Sara> paste bin link after using boot repair
[23:12] <Sara> it loged in windows again like i have done nothing
[23:12] <Ben64> Sara: the problem appears to be that you do not have ubuntu installed
[23:12] <nomodeset> Sara: You have to run a live cd
[23:12] <Sara> Im in live cd . i used live usb to use boot repair
[23:13] <cookiesandjuice> I've enabled my Broadcom BCM4311 driver, but nothing happens - Ubuntu doesn't scan for a wireless connection. Any suggestions?
[23:13] <fabio123> i know there is a way to boot into ubuntu from vhd virtual hdd
[23:13] <jhutchins_wk> !fixgrub
[23:13] <nomodeset> Sara:
[23:13] <nomodeset> Sara: http://pastebin.com/8ttDbTV6
[23:13] <Sara> I had ubuntu running for long time  ben
[23:13] <Ben64> Sara: windows must have erased it
[23:14] <fabio123> but it isnt free vboot
[23:14] <nomodeset> Ben64: sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[23:14] <nomodeset> sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev
[23:14] <nomodeset> sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc
[23:14] <nomodeset> sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys
[23:14] <nomodeset> sudo chroot /mnt
[23:14] <nomodeset> grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[23:14] <nomodeset> update-grub2
[23:14] <FloodBot1> nomodeset: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:14] <Sara> It happens again and again why
[23:14] <Sara> i cannot erase all my files in ubuntu everytime i install windows
[23:14] <Ben64> Sara: when you repaired windows or whatever you did, it erased the partition(s) for ubuntu
[23:15] <Ben64> Sara: how many times do you need to install windows?
[23:15] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: Note that you need to install grub to the device such as /dev/sda, not a partition like /dev/sda1
[23:15] <fabio123> http://www.vmlite.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=51&Itemid=148
[23:15] <Sara> then tell me how to do it for next time cause its 5th time im asking same question in this forume
[23:15] <nomodeset> Sara: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1591059/
[23:15] <Ben64> Sara: do what
[23:16] <nomodeset> Sara: please be polite
[23:16] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: The recommended method is to install windows first, then install Ubuntu.  This will allow Ubuntu's grub to manage booting to either windows or ubuntu.
[23:16] <tigran> nomodeset: were you asking me what I meant by that?
[23:16] <nomodeset> tigran: no, i do it and i have seen the same,
[23:17] <tigran> ok, seems like a bug huh
[23:17] <nomodeset> tigran: wait but no the other:
[23:17] <Sara> Im polite why? did i say sth?
[23:17] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: We
[23:17] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: We're not entirely clear on what you actually did.  What did you do that made ubuntu stop working?
[23:17] <tigran> nomodeset: whenever you lower the volume when volume is 0, the bar stays empty for you?
[23:18] <nomodeset> tigran: you got it
[23:18] <tigran> which version of ubuntu are you using
[23:18] <nomodeset> 12.10
[23:18] <tigran> hmm, I'm on mint 14 which is ubuntu 12.10
[23:18] <Sara> during installation of windows it asks to restart to contiue . after the first restart it fails to come back to installation process.
[23:19] <Ben64> !mint | tigran
[23:19] <L3top> !mint | tigran
[23:19] <L3top> !mint > tigran
[23:19] <tigran> anyone else want to redirect me to that? :)
[23:19] <nomodeset> L3top: Ben64: it is not about mit
[23:19] <Sara> I loged in usb live and installed boot repair recommended setting
[23:19] <L3top> !mint
[23:19] <Netbus> Sara: what error messages?
[23:19] <Sara> and thats it nothing else
[23:19] <Sara> grub rescue>
[23:20] <Ben64> Sara: windows works now, right?
[23:20] <nomodeset> Ben64: L3top: it is not about mid at all
[23:20] <L3top> doesn't matter what one thinks it is about. Mint is unsupported here.
[23:20] <Sara> yeap
[23:20] <Sara> not ubuntu
[23:20] <Ben64> Sara: then install ubuntu, and everything will work
[23:20] <tigran> I lied, im on ubuntu 12.10
[23:20] <nomodeset> L3top: it is not about mint, is about a bug in ubuntu 1210
[23:20] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: We're having to guess what you did, that's not very helpful/
[23:20] <Sara> and my ubuntu files is gone after installing it again
[23:20] <supster> Does anyone see any issues with this Upstart job? Are there any improvements to make? https://gist.github.com/4678285
[23:21] <Sara> I said all i did Idid nothign more
[23:21] <L3top> Could very well be. File a bug. However I am not wasting my time supporting an unsupported OS
[23:21] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: Unless you have a seperate partition that's going to happen every time.
[23:21] <Sara> I have a seperate partition
[23:21] <Sara> ext 4
[23:21] <Ben64> Sara: just install ubuntu
[23:21] <Ben64> you currently do not have an ext4 partition
[23:21] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: Is the partition still there?
[23:21] <tigran> do you know which package manages the displaying of the volume level when changing it via keyboard?
[23:22] <Ben64> tigran: we cannot support mint here, sorry
[23:22] <Sara> ben I have done that last ime it erases my files in ubuntu i should begin from scrach
[23:22] <L3top> Sara, if you install windows AFTER *buntu on its own partition... you will have to update grub
[23:22] <tigran> Ben64: that's awesome, im not asking a question about mint
[23:22] <Sara> I can see the partions in windows
[23:22] <Ben64> Sara: installing ubuntu doesn't erase files in ubuntu
[23:22] <Kurukuru> for some reason, I can't access PPA for super-boot-manager
[23:22] <k1l> tigran: last time. when using mint please use the mint support since they handle things differently
[23:22] <Sara> how l3top
[23:22] <Ben64> Sara: especially when you don't have ubuntu installed
[23:22] <Celso> curently, i think windows dont see ext4 partitions
[23:23] <Kurukuru> 'pleasecheck your internet connection'
[23:23] <L3top> Sara... windows cannot recognize a linux partition... how specifically do you "see" it
[23:23] <Kurukuru> internet is working fine
[23:23] <Sara> well then I install it differently . cause it did
[23:23] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: As long as you don't install Windows to the same partition as Ubuntu it won't erase your files, but it will overwrite grub.
[23:23] <Sara> right click on computer and manage
[23:23] <notonmint> In Ubuntu 12.10, which package manages the displaying of the volume level when changing it via keyboard, if anyone happens to know.
[23:23] <Celso> i doubt
[23:23] <L3top> Sara: Windows does not understand linux... linux understands windows. If you want to install both... install windows first, then linux.
[23:23] <Ben64> notonmint: stop playing games, we can't help you
[23:24] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: It sounds like when you installed Windows you formated the ext4 partition.
[23:24] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: That means it's not ext4 any more.
[23:24] <L3top> Sara: going the other direction requires doing things which are time consuming.
[23:24] <Sara> when you have them both installed and you want to reinstall windows. how are you going to manage that L3top
[23:25] <Ben64> lolseriously: don't make me drive to pomona
[23:25] <Sara> ext4 still there
[23:25] <lolseriously> damn you scary
[23:25] <Sara> windows cannot format in ext 4
[23:25] <lolseriously> but seriously, no need to kick me..
[23:25] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: Ok, if it's still there then you can boot to a rescue disk and restore grub.
[23:25] <lolseriously> I'm not asking about mint here
[23:25] <Celso> Sara, in wich OS you are?
[23:25] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, are you alive?
[23:25] <L3top> you reinstall windows on the recognized partition, then boot to a live disk... then chroot the install after binding a lot, then updating grub...
[23:25] <L3top> Sara: ^
[23:26] <Sara> ubuntu 12.04 -windows 7 dual boot
[23:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: Of course I'm alive. Et tu, Brute? ::dies::
[23:26] <nomodeset> L3top: Windows does not understand linux -> Windows does not want linux
[23:26] <Drumroll> windows doesn't understand windows
[23:26] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: Anyway, you're stuck in a console, right?
[23:26] <Celso> Sara, curently, you are using the ubuntu? Now?
[23:26] <L3top> Regardless of cause... their bootloader is not created to accept linux... so you must boot to windows via a linux boot loader
[23:26] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: You appear to be in Calgary.  What is your native language?
[23:26] <Sara> from live usb celso
[23:27] <Woozie> Alright, just installed nvidia-current and rebooting
[23:27] <Sara> vancouver Persian why?
[23:27] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: We're having a little trouble understanding you, but we'll try harder.
[23:27] <L3top> Sarah... don't answer personal questions. One moment...
[23:27] <gmulak_> Hello  I am sure it is an oft asked question - but - I don't know the answer and could use some help.  What Ubuntu distro will work best on an Atom Dual core processor with 1GB memory?
[23:28] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, yep, logged to console
[23:28] <jhutchins_wk> L3top: I was hoping we might find a native language channel, but not for Persian.
[23:28] <Celso> Sara, in ubuntu, open the computer folder and what do you see?
[23:28] <Sara> ok L3top you right
[23:28] <SonikkuAmerica> gmulak_: Just about anything, I'll bet. What's the speed of your Atom?
[23:28] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: Is there a reason you can't install grub from the console as has been suggested above?
[23:28] <histo> gmulak_: I'd run something like lubuntu or xubuntu
[23:28] <Ramtron> I give up. I have no drivers, how do I get them back on 12.04?
[23:28] <histo> gmulak_: lubuntu being the lightest
[23:28] <gmulak_> sonikkuamerica - I am not sure.  I knew you were going to ask...  :-(
[23:29] <jhutchins_wk> gmulak_: No reason not to run ubuntu on that.
[23:29] <gmulak_> histo - the latest distro?  Which is?
[23:29] <L3top> I wasn't attempting to evaluate your reasons jhutchins_wk... just suggesting personal information is not ever necessary... I understand the language question... and a valid one... just... I dunno sayin.
[23:29] <Kurukuru> for some reason, I can't access PPA for super-boot-manager - anyone know why?
[23:29] <histo> gmulak_: All of the variations aare current.  What sort of GPU do you have in that box?
[23:29] <jhutchins_wk> Ramtron: Drivers for what?
[23:29] <gmulak_> histo - I have not heard of lubuntu   --  I am going to take it to SCALE
[23:29] <Celso> By the way, when i open software center, isn't suposed to use de icon that already is on the bar and not opening another? or when open, it uses another icon?
[23:30] <Ramtron> Literally everything
[23:30] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: Type [ sudo jockey ] in the console and tell me what happens.
[23:30] <nomodeset> jhutchins_wk: windows
[23:30] <histo> gmulak_: What type of video card is it?
[23:30] <k1l> Kurukuru: the ppa is down? they have no packages for your release?
[23:30] <Sara> 640 GB hard disk acer- 640 harddisk system reserved- file system. celso
[23:30] <gmulak_> histo - the GPU is not very powerful.  Not a lot of graphic power
[23:30] <histo> gmulak_: take it to SCALE?
[23:30] <histo> gmulak_: What kind is it? Do you know?
[23:30] <Kurukuru> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ingalex/super-boot-manager
[23:30] <Sara> files system is supposed to contain all my files but it does not
[23:30] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, sudo jockey-gtk spitted the runtime error
[23:31] <Kurukuru> gives me an internet connection message
[23:31] <k1l> Kurukuru: pastebin the messages please
[23:31] <gmulak_> histo - It's on a mini itx board I want to say a D2500?  Does that sound right?
[23:31] <Ben64> Sara: you currently do not have ubuntu installed on your computer, if you would like to dual boot, you need to install ubuntu
[23:31] <Celso> sara, isn't seperated in more partitions?
[23:31] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: Right. [ sudo jockey ] alone should give you a text-based version of the program.
[23:31] <histo> gmulak_: Doesn't really sound right.  Is it intel based or nvidia?
[23:32] <gmulak_> histo - Intel based
[23:32] <histo> gmulak_: Like i've seen atom boards with nvidia ion chips
[23:32] <xius> so I'm trying to install 12.04 onto a partition on my mac. when I ran the installer, it encounter an error when installing grub. I decided to restart my computer holding alt to boot back into os x to research the problem, except rEFIt didn't load.
[23:32] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica: no such co
[23:32] <Sara> what do you mean seperated? ubuntu and windows are in diferent partitions
[23:32] <gmulak_> histo - no, I do know that much, it is intel based
[23:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: OK, try [ sudo startx ]
[23:32] <histo> gmulak_: Let's put it this way it will run ubuntu.   Your issue is going to be ram consumption.  You could try to mitigate the issue by using a 32bit version
[23:32] <Sara> 300gb win 300gb ubuntu
[23:32] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, no such command
[23:33] <histo> gmulak_: Or go with a lighter variant of ubuntu like xubuntu or lubuntu
[23:33] <Brewster> Ok so a while ago I attemted to update my nvidia drivers not knowing my graphics card was supported. The update succeeded but I was left with a terminal log in screen. I wiped everything and reinstalled ubuntu but now I can't keep anything on for more than 10 minutes or my graphics card sizzles and I lose the display. If I turn everything off and wait a bit everything works fine for
[23:33] <Brewster> another 10 minutes. Does anyone have a clue as to how I might fix this?
[23:33] <gmulak_> histo - OK.  I don't think I can add ram.  I know xubuntu - what is lubuntu?
[23:33] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, NVIDIA input/output error
[23:33] <SonikkuAmerica> I have a ? of my own: Is it possible to change the behavior of Ctrl+Alt+Delete in the GUI?
[23:33] <Woozie> same as always
[23:33] <Celso> Sara, now enter on that 300 gb ubuntu partition and tell me what is inside.
[23:34] <histo> gmulak_: lubuntu is lxde based
[23:34] <Brewster> on top of that I would like to ask: Does nvidia have problems with ubuntu or does ubuntu have problems with nvidia?
[23:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: Hmmm...
[23:34] <gmulak_> OK - cool  Thank you very much!
[23:34] <daftykins> Brewster: so since you reinstalled, what driver are you using?
[23:34] <nomodeset> where can i enable transparencies ?
[23:35] <Brewster> oh wasn't*
[23:35] <Celso> Sara, but i would advise you to grab a live cd or usb and to reinstall the ubuntu again
[23:35] <Brewster> daftykins: well I switched back to the drivers that I previously had nvidia-current-updates
[23:35] <daftykins> Brewster: do you know your card?
[23:35] <Sara> cannot mount it celso it does not find ubuntu partions anymore
[23:36] <Ben64> Brewster: do you have dual gpu? like intel and nvidia
[23:36] <Kurukuru> k1l, http://pastebin.ca/2309094
[23:36] <histo> gmulak_: just make sure you use 32bit version with that little ram.  Also what is SCALE?
[23:36] <Celso> it only says 600gb?
[23:36] <Brewster> daftykins: geforce 7950... I didn't get the memo that they stopped making linux drivers for geforce 7
[23:36] <xius> so I'm trying to install 12.04 onto a partition on my mac. when I ran the installer, it encounter an error when installing grub. I decided to restart my computer holding alt to boot back into os x to research the problem, except rEFIt didn't load.
[23:36] <Brewster> and that is the only graphics card on the computer
[23:36] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, any ideas?
[23:37] <k1l> Kurukuru: check the url that is mentioned in that errormsg
[23:37] <k1l> Kurukuru: the ppa seems gone
[23:37] <Ben64> Brewster: you need to use a 304.xx driver for that
[23:37] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: Is there a reason you can't install grub from the console as has been suggested above?
[23:37] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: I've never used the NVIDIA drivers; I've been confident with Nouveau.
[23:37] <Kurukuru> k1l: So what are my options?
[23:37] <Brewster> I know
[23:37] <Ben64> jhutchins_wk: there is no ubuntu installed on the computer
[23:37] <Sara> where is it suggested?
[23:38] <daftykins> brb
[23:38] <Brewster> I was using the 304.xx driver before all this nonsense happened
[23:38] <L3top> Sara: load an ubuntu live disk... once loaded, please pastebin the output of mount
[23:38] <Ben64> jhutchins_wk, Sara: installing grub won't help without installing ubuntu first
[23:38] <k1l> Kurukuru: make sure you typed that ppa right
[23:38] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, Nouveau causes an complete PC hangup on my laptop.
[23:38] <Ben64> Sara: ~~~Install Ubuntu~~~
[23:38] <Celso> Ben64 is right. he already realized that much more sooner than me. lol
[23:38] <L3top> Sara: better yet fdisk -l
[23:38] <Sara> tell me how to recover files after installing ubuntu?
[23:38] <Ben64> Sara: \\\Install Ubuntu///
[23:39] <L3top> recover what files Sara?
[23:39] <histo> Sara: Wait recover what files?
[23:39] <Kurukuru> k1l: looks fine to me
[23:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: I would switch my distro to something else then. Maybe Lubuntu or Xubuntu.
[23:39] <histo> !details | Sara
[23:39] <Sara> files that i had on my ubuntu before reinstalling windows and messing up with ubuntu
[23:40] <k1l> Kurukuru: remove the // at the beginning
[23:40] <Ben64> Sara: they're gone
[23:40] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, this problem is affecting every single 3.x kernel Linux distro.
[23:40] <histo> Ben64: No their not
[23:40] <histo> Sara: did you repartition when you installed windows?
[23:40] <Ben64> histo: they're* and yes they are. there is no ext4 partition remaining
[23:40] <nomodeset> exit
[23:40] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: Really.
[23:40] <jhutchins_wk> Ben64: There seems to be disagreement.  She had it installed, then she installed Windows.  Windows won't overwrite Ubuntu unless you try really hard.
[23:40] <Kurukuru> k1l: whoops yeah, just caught that.. thanks
[23:40] <L3top> Sara: unless you overwrote the partition... they are NOT gone... you simply cannot boot to Ubuntu to access and use them. You need to boot to an Ubuntu LIVE disk... then type sudo fdisk -l... and I can tell you what is what.
[23:40] <histo> Ben64: So the files are still there
[23:40] <Sara> I repartioned when i installed ubuntu in dual boot with win 7
[23:40] <Garr255> anyone selling btc for bank deposit right now?
[23:41] <nomodeset> quit
[23:41] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, i am currently using MEPIS 11 on 2.6 kernel, but I really need 3.x D;
[23:41] <Sara> ubuntu was on sda 4
[23:41] <Ben64> jhutchins_wk: there was a pastebin with fdisk -l and a bunch of other good stuff, ubuntu is most definitely not installed
[23:41] <Sara> its gone anyway im going to reinstall it again
[23:41] <histo> Sara: STOP
[23:41] <L3top> Sara... becuase WINDOWS does not see it... does not mean it is gone
[23:41] <Celso> people, but how the heck she on ubuntu live usb cant access the 300 gb? it says cant mout
[23:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: Are you using Ubuntu Server?
[23:41] <L3top> PLEASE BOOT TO UBUNTU LIVE DISK
[23:41] <histo> Sara: You can still recover your files using photorec
[23:41] <Ben64> oh my god you guys
[23:41] <jhutchins_wk> L3top: She's reportedly on some rescue USB.
[23:41] <Sara> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[23:41] <Ben64> there is no ext4 partition
[23:42] <histo> Ben64: Will you please stop giving bad advice. You can use data recovery tools to save her files.
[23:42] <Sara> nothing happend L3top
[23:42] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, no, currenty using 12.04 LTS desktop
[23:42] <L3top> Sara: sudo fdisk -l
[23:42] <histo> Ben64: Doens't matter if the partition is there or not
[23:42] <L3top> fdisk does not work without root priv
[23:42] <Ben64> histo: ok fine, you do it then
[23:42] <Sara> http://pastebin.com/2qvyLpFU
[23:42] <SonikkuAmerica> Woozie: So going to Ubuntu 12.10 causes your NVIDIA card to go bonkers.
[23:42] <Guest1093> @seek alastair reynolds
[23:43] <histo> Sara: Please listen to me. Boot a ubuntu live cd imediately.  Install the testdisk package.  Use photorec to scan the drive and recover your files.     If they are that necessary. If you can deal with losing them then it's not worh the time.
[23:44] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, no, i wanted to say that I was trying to use 12.04. Only distros that fully works are these with 2.6 kernel
[23:44] <L3top> Sara, it appears as though you have chunked your linux install.
[23:44] <L3top> histo: if it was an ext4 partition... I find your advice unusable...
[23:44] <jhutchins_wk> histo: Does it occur to you to wonder how the files got erased?
[23:44] <histo> L3top: IT IS NOT
[23:44] <histo> you people really need to understand data recovery tools.
[23:45] <Sara> why i do that eveytime install windows. I did exactly what was written on boot repair page
[23:45] <jhutchins_wk> L3top: It does not appear that she has a valid ubuntu partition.
[23:45] <L3top> Sara: it has to do with the options you select for the windows install
[23:45] <L3top> Correct jhutchins_wk
[23:45] <jhutchins_wk> L3top: Check the pastebin.
[23:46] <Sara> all recommended option ididnot change anything
[23:46] <L3top> histo... I am familiar. actual recovery on ext3+ is... a time vampire... and never works. In my experience.
[23:46] <histo> Sara: if you told windows to use the entire disk this would have happened. Also windows overwrote the mbr.
[23:46] <histo> L3top: if you scna a drive sector by sector for headers of a file it doesn't really matter.  You're not understanding.
[23:46] <jhutchins_wk> histo: Note that there are two NTFS partitions.  That's not standard.
[23:47] <Celso> Sara, with 2 partitions, one for windows (ntfs) and other for ubuntu (ext4), when reinstalling windows, you only need to choose ntfs partition. never touch on the ext4 partition.
[23:47] <histo> jhutchins_wk: windows 7 uses a boot partition
[23:47] <Sara> windows does not ask about partition its preload
[23:47] <L3top> histo: the partition is gone. recovering an ext4 after a windows partition... is a thing of legend.
[23:47] <histo> L3top: No it's not.
[23:47] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: Are you using a Windows install disk or are you using a system restore disk from the manufacturer?
[23:48] <L3top> histo: source.
[23:48] <jhutchins_wk> histo: MSCE here, I agree with L3top
[23:48] <histo> L3top: I should clarify. You are talking about recovering the partition.  That will be an issue. But carving files out is not.
[23:48] <daftykins> MCSE too? :)
[23:48] <Brewster> so...
[23:48] <histo> L3top: since she asked how do i recover my files. I was explaining how.
[23:48] <Sara> no disk . its preload on my computer I boot into windows installation using alt+F#
[23:48] <Brewster> any words of advice?
[23:49] <jhutchins_wk> daftykins: And dyslexic to boot!
[23:49] <jhutchins_wk> Bingo.
[23:49] <daftykins> jhutchins_wk: :)
[23:49] <L3top> histo, the files were wiped by a windows install... the partition is no longer there... this is not a recovery issue anymore imo.
[23:49] <Sara> and yes its from manufacturer
[23:49] <histo> Sara: Yeah that will blow out any partitions you previously created. They usually work by disk image
[23:49] <Celso> problem is detected XD
[23:49] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: That restore process is what's killing ubuntu - it's putting the disk back the way it was when you got it.
[23:49] <histo> L3top: You are missinformed.  Only some of the files have been replaced.
[23:50] <Sara> yeah i just need to know how to prevent it for next time
[23:50] <histo> L3top: mostlike the files for the linux system not /home
[23:50] <L3top> THE PARTITION TABLE IS...
[23:50] <L3top> sigh
[23:50] <L3top> histo: source.
[23:50] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: You should be able to reinstall Ubuntu, but if you run that restore again it will be gone again.
[23:50] <histo> L3top: WHO CARES ABOUT THE PARTITION TABLE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FILES
[23:50] <Ben64> everyone, relax
[23:50] <L3top> histo: soruce
[23:50] <L3top> source*
[23:50] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: You need some other way to restore Windows if you need to do it and keep Ubuntu.
[23:50] <Ben64> histo: recovery is a dubious proposition at best
[23:51] <histo> Ben64: L3top I will bet you both 1k that I can recover files from that drive.
[23:51] <Celso> Ben64, I have beer, eurodance music, so, more relaxed than this is impossible :P
[23:51] <jhutchins_wk> histo: The Windows restore wrote over the Ubuntu partition.
[23:51] <Ben64> even if some files still remain, they're likely to be fragmented and unusable
[23:51] <daftykins> A lot of you right now are making the person asking the question suffer by enduring your little domestic rant. Go and walk around for a while to calm down and let someone else take over so you're no longer letting your personality get in the way.
[23:51] <histo> jhutchins_wk: Yeap I know.
[23:51] <Sara> wll im trying testtdisk for now
[23:51] <jhutchins_wk> histo: No point in attempting recovery at this point.
[23:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Here, let me step in.
[23:52] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: testdisk is not going to help.
[23:52] <histo> Ben64: L3top jhutchins_wk This is what I do for a living but go ahead and missinform people.
[23:52] <histo> jhutchins_wk: but photorec will
[23:52] <SonikkuAmerica> What's the deal here?
[23:52] <L3top> histo: source. (ps you are not a source)
[23:52] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: Let me explain again:  The restore process os what killed Ubuntu.  Ubuntu isn't there any more.
[23:52] <Ben64> histo: i'm not misinforming anyone
[23:52] <histo> L3top: google file carving
[23:52] <histo> This is not some new technology.
[23:52] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: You can re-install Ubuntu, but if you restore Windows it will destroy Ubuntu again.
[23:53] <histo> Windows merely overwrote some of the disk. Most likely the first part where windows was already installed
[23:53] <Woozie> !google | histo
[23:53] <L3top> histo: to ask for a source, cannot be adequetely fulfilled by asking me to find your source.
[23:53] <SonikkuAmerica> What is this talk of destroying Ubuntu?
[23:53] <jhutchins_wk> SonikkuAmerica: Windows system restore.
[23:53] <xius> so I'm trying to install 12.04 onto a partition on my mac. when I ran the installer, it encounter an error when installing grub.   I don't have the time or the patience to argue with you all anymore.
[23:53] <frowni> Can someone help me with slowing the mouse a bit :)
[23:54] <jhutchins_wk> SonikkuAmerica: Yes, in this case at least, it restores the original partitions and reimages them.
[23:54] <histo> !info scalpel | L3top jhutchins_wk Ben64
[23:54] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, Sara restored Windows fron recovery partition
[23:54] <frowni> Mouse settings are at the lowest speed already, but it's still fast.
[23:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Like a factory image?
[23:54] <histo> !info testdisk | L3top jhutchins_wk Ben64
[23:54] <histo> Hey also includes photorec in the testdisk package.
[23:54] <Sara> so how can i install windows without erasing ubuntu partions?
[23:54] <Ben64> SonikkuAmerica: yes, a factory recovery cd/dvd
[23:54] <histo> I have to go for a bit.
[23:54] <histo> brb
[23:54] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh.
[23:54] <jhutchins_wk> histo: Please stop.  Unless she had personal data on the system it's much smarter to just reinstall.
[23:54] <Ben64> Sara: why do you need to install windows so often?
[23:55] <jhutchins_wk> Ben64: because Windows.
[23:55] <Sara> I got a virus this time
[23:55] <Ben64> windows 7 isn't as bad about stuff like that anymore
[23:55] <gmulak_> histo:  SCALe is Southern California Linux Expo - Here:  http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale11x
[23:55] <Sara> and my autocad stoped working
[23:55] <Ben64> Sara: you should use antivirus software in windows :)
[23:55] <blunted> Is it a bug if a package pushback breaks my hosting companies kernel config? I think there is a bug here but not sure
[23:55] <Celso> frowni, wireless mouse?
[23:55] <Sara> I do avast
[23:55] <gskellig> brightness buttons still not working on my laptop. Anybody have ideas? ubuntu 12.10, asus UL30vt laptop
[23:55] <daftykins> Sara: do you download illegal stuff on it all the time or something?
[23:56] <Woozie> Formatting a HDD isn't a way to delete viruses
[23:56] <gskellig> the OSD goes up and down but the brightness stays the same
[23:56] <Sara> nope.
[23:56] <frowni> Celso, nope, wired
[23:56] <frowni> Celso, wired hp mouse
[23:56] <Sara> dafty what kind of question is that
[23:56] <frowni> celso, plain simple one :P
[23:56] <daftykins> a genuine one
[23:56] <Celso> gskelling, your graphics card?
[23:56] <Celso> ok frowni, wait a minute
[23:56] <daftykins> Sara: i just don't see win7 getting affected that often
[23:56] <gskellig> GT218M and also intel HD1000
[23:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Sara: See my message query.
[23:57] <Celso> ok frowni, see this page http://askubuntu.com/questions/133611/how-do-i-slow-down-my-wireless-mouse?rq=1
[23:57] <Celso> wich one you are using gskellig?
[23:57] <L3top> histo... familiar... packages are not sources. I do forensic data recovery. I use helix primarily. I am familiar with carving. You are unable to provide a "how to" sort of source... because there isn't one, once ext4 is overwritten by windows. We are in different animal territory.
[23:58] <gskellig> celso well, I want to use both. With bumblebee (nvidia optimus for linux)
[23:58] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: Since the windows restore is always going to kill Ubuntu (unless you put ubuntu on a seperate drive), you need an alternative method like a good image backup - easy to do from Ubuntu.
[23:58] <gskellig> but by default use the intel one
[23:58] <L3top> It CAN be done... but... you need equipment and time and skill... at this point... this is not sound advice... and I do not accept at face value, you have it.
[23:58] <Celso> ok. i am not very familiar with the bumblebee stuff but try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/123604/how-do-i-make-screen-dimming-work-in-ubuntu-12-04-beta-2
[23:58] <jhutchins_wk> Sara: I would recommend using avg instead of avast for anti-virus.  The windows system protection stuff is pretty good too.
[23:58] <Celso> i curently use vgaswitcheroo.
[23:59] <Woozie> SonikkuAmerica, thanks for help, got to go and crowl Internet for fixes, bye :]
[23:59] <blunted> Optimus on Linux, yayayaya thank you sara
[23:59] <Celso> frowni, did it worked?
[23:59] <gskellig> is vgaswitcheroo updated recently?
[23:59] <gskellig> I'm up for anything to be honest
[23:59] <gskellig> as long as its easy to use