[12:14] <kronos91> qualcubno mi legge
[12:19] <Dexter_F> !raid
[12:19] <ubotu> Raid and LVM --> very easy guide for alternate CD : http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[12:19] <Dexter_F> !sensors
[12:19] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[12:20] <romudog> Hey guys! Hows it going today?
[12:23] <qwertz> help: how to define X11_Xtest_Lib(ADVANCED)  ?? I have x11proto_xext_devel.. but that doesn't help
[12:26] <romudog> sparr:hey
[12:29] <rathel__> What file do I edit to add tuncfg too so that it starts at boot?
[12:30] <romudog> kde?
[12:30] <romudog> rathel__: kde right
[12:31] <rathel__> romudog: Yes.
[12:31] <romudog> rathel__: put a bash/shell cmd in your .Autostart
[12:31] <nosrednaekim> rathel_what deos tuncfg do? do you want it to start on boot, or on login?
[12:32] <romudog> nosrednaekim: LoL Hey! You hang here often?
[12:32] <nosrednaekim> romudog: yeah..  bit... why?
[12:32] <rathel__> nosrednaekim: It's needed for Hamachi, I keep forgetting to start it when I run hamachi, so I thought I add it when I login or boot the computer.
[12:32] <nosrednaekim> *a bit
[12:32] <romudog> nosrednaekim: LoL Just wondering saw ya yesterday!
[12:33] <nosrednaekim> rathel__: I keep forgetting the file that has things to run on boot...
[12:33] <nosrednaekim> but you can put them in kde's autostart
[12:34] <nosrednaekim> romudog: yeah, i'm on frequently
[12:34] <rathel__> nosrednaekim: If I add it to KDE's autostart, It's needs sudo to run, how would I add a command like that? withouth prompting for a password?
[12:35] <romudog> I'm interested in learning that too.
[12:35] <snake> does anyone know something i can use to convert avi to mpeg
[12:35] <romudog> I do.
[12:35] <romudog> snake: Use mediacoder or avidemux
[12:35] <snake> romudog: i have avidemux but i do not know how to convert avi
[12:35] <snake> any wiki please ?
[12:35] <nosrednaekim> rathel__: yeah, thats why you have to add it boot... I keep forgetting how.
[12:36] <romudog> snake: Mediacoder is probably your best bet. I know the creator personally.
[12:36] <snake> ah ok
[12:36] <snake> thank you
[12:36] <romudog> snake: I'll link you.
[12:36] <rathel__> nosrednaekim: Yeah I forgot too, I did it before along time ago.
[12:36] <snake> ok
[12:36] <nosrednaekim> lemme ask over in kubuntu-devel
[12:36] <romudog> snake: http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/
[12:37] <romudog> snake: ffmpeg would also work but its too complicated for me because its console based.
[12:37] <snake> romudog: thank you. trying now
[12:37] <romudog> snake: Okay, Hollar at me if it doesnt work, You need wine for mediacoder unless the Linux vers has just been output. It runs perfect under wine.
[12:40] <Gerrit> !smart
[12:40] <ubotu> smart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager
[12:40] <nosrednaekim> rathel__: ok, add your command to /etc/rc.local (courtesy of crimsun on kubuntu-devel)
[12:41] <rathel__> nosrednaekim: Okay thank ya.
[12:41] <nosrednaekim> rathel__: it wasn't me.. thank crimsun
[12:42] <rathel__> Yup but still, you got the answer.
[12:42] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[12:44] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: oh that looks interesting
[12:45] <matze> !libdvdcss2
[12:45] <Gerrit> I have switched from Fedora to Kubuntu, and I am already missing the installation-date field that rpm has but debian misses. It doesn't seem that smart can do that for me though.
[12:45] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:45] <Gerrit> Debian package manager seems to be more limited than rpm (I am not trying to troll, this is my impression at the moment)
[12:46] <matze> very sad, very sad
[12:48] <matze> what's the kubuntu text-editor?
[12:48] <Arwen> kate
[12:49] <matze> thx
[12:49] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: ehh... I don't know. .Deb distros more than make up for it with their huge amount of available programs
[12:50] <LjL> Gerrit: more limited in what ways?
[12:52] <darkstar> Hello
[12:52] <nosrednaekim> 'lo
[12:52] <romudog> Can someone assist me? I'm trying to install Google Earth and i get the following error: xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server (new line) xlib: No protocol specified
[12:53] <darkstar> I've tried to get kubuntu to see my windows network, but it says it's blocked by a firewall even though I haven't installed one.
[12:53] <darkstar> O
[12:53] <darkstar> ve tried installing Samba, but no luck.
[12:53] <LjL> romudog: use the package from medibuntu
[12:54] <darkstar> Anybody?
[12:54] <romudog> LjL: It doesnt show up it gave me 404 when i tried and last time it did work it downloaded so slow at 10kbps
[12:55] <romudog> I'm also wondering why i get these errors, Ive gotten them with many programs.
[12:55] <nosrednaekim> 404 is an apache error
[12:55] <nosrednaekim> romudog: oh you mean the xlib ones.
[12:56] <romudog> W: Failed to fetch-http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/non-free/g/googleearth/googleearth_4.0.2735.0-0medibuntu2~edgy0.1_i386.deb
[12:56] <romudog>   404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[12:56] <LjL> !medibuntu
[12:56] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[12:57] <romudog> i have them enabled though.
[12:57] <LjL> romudog: they've changed address, as you can see above
[01:01] <romudog> LjL: It works when i http that link
[01:04] <LjL> romudog, in your sources.list, you have medibuntu.sos-sts.com as that error shows, but the *current* address is medibuntu.org, not medibuntu.sos-sts.com, so you'd have to change your sources.list accordingly
[01:04] <LjL> or just fetch it manually
[01:04] <romudog> LjL: its NOT medibuntu.org....
[01:05] <romudog> LjL: It states on their website not to use medibuntu.org due to them switching servers. the tell you to use that link.
[01:06] <LjL> romudog, in the repository howto they say to do  echo deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ feisty free non-free >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:06] <LjL> so that seems very much like medibuntu.org (specifically, packages.medibuntu.org) would be the address
[01:06] <romudog> I understand that.
[01:07] <romudog> I just went to the website..
[01:21] <isthisnickvalid_> hey I have a little problem
[01:22] <romudog> !ask
[01:22] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:22] <romudog> isthisnickvalid_:Whatcha need?
[01:23] <isthisnickvalid_> I want to make the program "martian_dev" run at the beginning and then the command "ln -f /dev/ttySM0 /dev/modem run, after the firs command and in every boot, how can I do it?
[01:23] <romudog> isthisnickvalid_: Your better off than me cause i got big problems ;) Your lucky you only got a little problem some of us have issues with girlfriends...haha
[01:23] <isthisnickvalid_> lol
[01:23] <romudog> isthisnickvalid_: I dont know about bash that much but if your on KDE put the script in your .Autostart so like /home/USERNAME***/.Autostart
[01:24] <isthisnickvalid_> I'll have a look, thanks
[01:24] <romudog> isthisnickvalid_: No problem, Thats what im here for.
[01:28] <romudog> Lots of ComCaSt USeRz
[01:29] <BluesKaj> evening all :)
[01:30] <romudog> BluesKaj: Hey
[01:30] <BluesKaj> hi romudog
[01:30] <romudog> sup man
[01:31] <isthisnickvalid_> romudog: the app I am trying to use must be used under root...will I have problems or does autostart work as root?
[01:31] <romudog> I have no idea, I believe it starts as the user.
[01:32] <BluesKaj> trying to config permission to /media , "chmod 755 /media" doesn't seem to work...of course I'm still a bit in the dark about cmnds , so that's not too surprising :)
[01:33] <romudog> BluesKaj: Don't feel bad. I've messed with Linux for a few years and i'm still clueless to how to use CHMOD in konsole.
[01:34] <BluesKaj> I dont wanna change users permissions , just my permissions cuz I'm the only user ...wifey still sticks to her old windoze
[01:35] <romudog> LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:35] <romudog> Dude...I abandoned windows yesterday..it HOSED...last time i ever use it.
[01:35] <BluesKaj> her ood windoze pcc , that is
[01:35] <BluesKaj> old
[01:35] <romudog> lol
[01:35] <romudog> Windows is a virus.
[01:37] <BluesKaj> hehe, i got scathed and flamed for asking a desperate windows question in here yesterday, on behalf of my poor 'newb to computers' daughter.
[01:37] <romudog> lol
[01:38] <romudog> BluesKaj: If you need anything let me know im a pro when it comes to windows...
[01:38] <BluesKaj> you'd think i'd pi**ed their morning coffee:)
[01:38] <romudog> LoL!!
[01:38] <romudog> Man i cant get this dvd workin
[01:38] <romudog> Any ideas?
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> romudog: did you install libdvdcss2?
[01:38] <BluesKaj> the cursor on her toshibs laptop was frozen
[01:39] <romudog> nosrednaekim i used easy ubuntu to
[01:39] <nosrednaekim> romudog: and it doesn't play? any error message?
[01:39] <romudog> nosrednaekim lemme go check synaptic real quick thanks for the pkg name
[01:39] <BluesKaj> gotta have that libdvdcss2 :)
[01:40] <romudog> http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/free/libd/libdvdcss/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-2medibuntu2+b1_i386.deb
[01:40] <romudog>   404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[01:40] <romudog> Arg can someone help me fix repos list?
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> romudog: use the seveas repo for libdvdcss
[01:40] <nosrednaekim> !seveas
[01:40] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:41] <romudog> thx
[01:41] <BluesKaj> romudog, http://www.medibuntu.org/repository.php
[01:42] <Gerrit> Is it possible to determine the install date of a package?
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> Gerrit: hmmm yeah... do you cache all downloaded packages?
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> romudog: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/feisty-seveas/extras/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu6_i386.deb
[01:45] <romudog> nosrednaekim It wont lemme start my package manager
[01:45] <Kr4t05> I just accidentally deleted some important files (Shift+Del). Is there any tool that can bring them back from the dead?
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> romudog: whats the error?
[01:45] <Gerrit> nosrednaekim: I don't know if I do.
[01:45] <romudog> nosrednaekim There is none sometimes it just locks up on the loading curson
[01:45] <romudog> cursor*
[01:45] <nosrednaekim> run it from the konsole
[01:45] <romudog> i did
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> and.. no error?it NEVER loads?
[01:46] <Kr4t05> Help?!
[01:46] <romudog> YEah
[01:46] <romudog> Kr4t05: watcha need?
[01:46] <Kr4t05> See above.
[01:46] <romudog> Oh
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> Kr4t05: if that means "rm" nothing you can do
[01:46] <romudog> YEah there is
[01:46] <Kr4t05> romudog: Yeah?
[01:46] <romudog> if it doesnt write over the sectors you can recover it
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> romudog: really?
[01:46] <romudog> believe me ive done it so many times..
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> romudog: try another package manager
[01:47] <romudog> fixed it nos
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> romudog: ho do you do it?
[01:47] <Kr4t05> romudog: What do I need to do?
[01:47] <romudog> Nosrednaekim Do what?
[01:47] <romudog> Kr4t05 Lemme go get the package name
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> romudog: recover things.
[01:47] <romudog> nosrednaekim: You run a program that scans all your hard drive sectors.
[01:48] <romudog> Nosrednaekim: Remember in Kgpg it had a feature called shredder?
[01:48] <nosrednaekim> romudog: never used that.
[01:48] <romudog> But you remember it dont you?
[01:49] <romudog> Kr4t05 What type of file did you accidentally delete?
[01:49] <Kr4t05> romudog: Several of my movie backups.
[01:49] <Kr4t05> Most of them were AVI
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> romudog: i've heard of it
[01:49] <romudog> Okay your in luck
[01:50] <romudog> Listen Kr4t05 Your best bet is to not write to your current hard drive it could delete the file permanently
[01:50] <Kr4t05> Eh...
[01:50] <Kr4t05> I have a Windows Vista partition.
[01:50] <Kr4t05> Is there anyway to do things from it?
[01:50] <romudog> yeah
[01:50] <romudog> So this is windows?
[01:50] <Kr4t05> Or, should I break out the LiveCD?
[01:50] <romudog> or linux?
[01:50] <romudog> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download
[01:51] <Kr4t05> No, this is still Kubuntu, say the word, and I'll get my LiveCD out.
[01:51] <romudog> Photrec is your tool you need, It should work.
[01:51] <Kr4t05> romudog: Right-o.
[01:51] <Kr4t05> Thanks.
[01:51] <romudog> If it doesnt there is a tool i use that i bought and it does a great job.
[01:51] <MaTiAz> Hey, is the support for Intel graphics chips any good in Linux?
[01:51] <romudog> ...back in the windows days..haha
[01:51] <romudog> Yeah
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: excellent
[01:51] <romudog> But no 3d accel i think
[01:52] <romudog> i could be wrong
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> romudog: no they allhave 3d accel
[01:52] <romudog> Kr4t05 GL bro
[01:52] <romudog> nosrednaekim Cool!
[01:52] <nosrednaekim> all open source too!
[01:52] <MaTiAz> nosrednaekim: Woah, that's awesome!
[01:52] <MaTiAz> Is bluetooth & WLAN fully supported too?
[01:53] <romudog> Pretty sure it is
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: more or less, depens on your chipset and how much blood sweat and tears you put into it.
[01:53] <MaTiAz> All right
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> if you mean intel wireless, yes it is
[01:53] <MaTiAz> Yeah
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> intelis one of the easiest as well
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> for wireless
[01:53] <MaTiAz> I'm planning on buying a HP Compaq NX7400, Intel C2D T5600, 1GB DDR2 etc. :)
[01:54] <MaTiAz> So I guess I can safely buy that one without needing to worry too much about Linux compatibility :)
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: go to www.linux-laptops.org and look up that model
[01:55] <romudog> MatiAz How much is it?
[01:55] <BluesKaj> MaTiAz, one thing , make sure the graphics card is NOTan ATI !
[01:55] <romudog> omfg ATI Sucks under linux its HORRIBLE!!!!!!
[01:55] <MaTiAz> BluesKaj: It's an Intel
[01:55] <MaTiAz> romudog: 635 euros, not bad IMO
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> I hate ATI.
[01:56] <MaTiAz> And yeah, I've experienced ATI on Linux - far from pleasure
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> 635 EU...about $700?
[01:56] <romudog> Matiaz: Thats 1200USD give or take Why not buy from System76
[01:56] <MaTiAz> Hmm, something like that
[01:56] <BluesKaj> well, that's a bit difficult to MaTiAz, but workable ...I think :)
[01:56] <Gerrit> Goodnight
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> $850... not bad.
[01:56] <nosrednaekim> bye
[01:56] <romudog> 851.939 USD
[01:56] <MaTiAz> yeah
[01:57] <romudog> Matiaz yeah man HP Rips you off even with my handy dandy employee discount
[01:57] <MaTiAz> :\
[01:58] <romudog> i had a laptop i retured it after arguing with them cuz the DVD burner didnt work and they sent me defective batteries which were recalled 2 wks later
[01:58] <MaTiAz> I could get an Acer for the same price with a bit better specs, but I'm definitely not gonna buy one of those
[01:58] <MaTiAz> lol
[01:58] <romudog> Apples run linux if you dont mine the no right click
[01:58] <romudog> and proprietary hardware..and ati..
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: yeah I have an ACER with ATI, regretting it.
[01:58] <MaTiAz> :)
[01:58] <romudog> System 76 i was looking at...
[01:58] <nosrednaekim> romudog: some of them have nvidia
[01:58] <romudog> nosrednaekim not the one i have
[01:58] <MaTiAz> I wish I had a new MacBook Pro
[01:59] <romudog> Matiaz haha i just got one
[01:59] <MaTiAz> I heard the Geforce 8600 mobile is sick
[01:59] <restagner> i have 2 computers each running kubuntu.  i have an HP printer connected to one of them.  anybody out there "schooled" on how to set up one of the boxes to be a CUPS Server?
[01:59] <romudog> i have the ati one tho i have an intel mac before OLED
[01:59] <Kr4t05> romudog: Okay, now in Windows.
[01:59] <MaTiAz> I was gonna buy a MacBook, but as it costs kinda much I thought I'd just get a regular PC laptop
[01:59] <Kr4t05> What was that link, again?
[02:00] <romudog> Kr4t05 one sec
[02:00] <romudog> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: looks like that HP has some pretty good linux support
[02:00] <romudog> Got a USB Thumbdrive there?
[02:00] <Kr4t05> romudog: Yeah, 512MB
[02:00] <BluesKaj> hehe, a buddy bought a HP with AMD 64 bit CPU , when he started it up at home , he ran into a dell windows home premuim vista OS ...bought it at future shop (owned by  best buy) here in Canada :)
[02:00] <romudog> download it and istall it to usb thumbdrive
[02:00] <romudog> just to be safe Kr4t05
[02:00] <MaTiAz> BluesKaj: Haha, good luck :D
[02:01] <restagner> MaTiAz: I just bought a Dell Inspirion. and am very happy with it
[02:01] <MaTiAz> nosrednaekim: Good to hear :) Gotta see if I just replace the Vista Business with Kubuntu :)
[02:01] <MaTiAz> restagner: What model?
[02:01] <BluesKaj> he got reimbursed fully
[02:01] <restagner> the 1505
[02:01] <Kr4t05> romudog: Vista doesn't have access to my Linux partitions... :/
[02:01] <romudog> Matiaz if i made enough money i'd pay people to switch to kubuntu just for the sake of it
[02:01] <MaTiAz> :)
[02:02] <romudog> Kr4t05 I dont get it...What do you wanna restore...i mean what partition is it on?
[02:02] <restagner> MaTiAz: it was priced VERY reasonable
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: you mean, by HP?
[02:02] <MaTiAz> I've used Vista a bit, I prefer XP a lot more though
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: yeah, why don't you go get one of those Dell Ubuntu lappys?
[02:02] <romudog> Dell = Hell.
[02:02] <romudog> Dont ever buy from the,.
[02:03] <romudog> them*
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: oh yeah thats right.. you are in europe
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[02:03] <MaTiAz> nosrednaekim: Well, installing Kubuntu isn't such a problem anyway :)
[02:03] <MaTiAz> And yeah, I'm in Europe :)
[02:03] <Kr4t05> romudog: hda2 is my Vista partition
[02:03] <Kr4t05> hda3 is where the files in question where.
[02:03] <romudog> Kr4t05 So why did you switch to vista?
[02:03] <restagner> that's what I got: the Dell ubuntu lappy
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> restagner: is it nice?
[02:03] <MaTiAz> I like to do stuff myself instead of having it preinstalled
[02:03] <restagner> VERY nice!!
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> MaTiAz: thats your masochistic right
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> :-D
[02:04] <Kr4t05> romudog: Because you told me to?
[02:04] <nosrednaekim> restagner: did you get it with the nvidia card?
[02:04] <restagner> nosrednaekim: all in all it cost me about $900
[02:04] <romudog> Kr4t05 I dont remember telling you to switch to it i just remember asking you which it was on..and all lol
[02:04] <MaTiAz> nosrednaekim: Why? I've installed Kubuntu on three machines and it wasn't troubling at all :)
[02:04] <Kr4t05> ...
[02:04] <restagner> nosrednaekim: yes I got the nvidia card
[02:04] <Kr4t05> Guh...
[02:05] <romudog> Kr4t05 Wait
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> restagner: was the nvidia driver installed by default?
[02:05] <romudog> Kr4t05 You may be able to recover it from vista.
[02:05] <romudog> Kr4t05 Besides your safer on vista give me a minute to look this up.
[02:05] <romudog> Kr4t05 Is your filesystem ext2 or 3?
[02:06] <restagner> nosrednaekim: Yes, but there were some issues with it via the factory default setting using Ubuntu.  So, I went about installing Kubuntu on it and it works great
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> restagner: what kind of issues? I'm very interested in the dells for reccomending them to freinds and such
[02:06] <Kr4t05> romudog: 3
[02:07] <romudog> kr4t05 let me find you an ext3 driver for winblows lol
[02:07] <Kr4t05> romudog: The only one I have is not supported in Vista.
[02:07] <restagner> the card appeared to be recognized, but there were some warnings presented.  i don't exactly recall, because i almost immediately removed Ubuntu and installed Kubuntu
[02:07] <Kr4t05> All the others suck.
[02:07] <Kr4t05> Hold on.
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> restagner: ah, ok
[02:07] <Kr4t05> Let me get the Linux version, and use my Kubuntu LiveCD.
[02:07] <romudog> Kr4t05 Try http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd or have you tried that?
[02:08] <Kr4t05> romudog: Yes
[02:08] <restagner> To all:  i have 2 computers each running kubuntu.  i have an HP printer connected to one of them.  anybody out there "schooled" on how to set up one of the boxes to be a CUPS Server?
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> restagner: sure... its really pretty easy
[02:08] <restagner> nosrednaekim: please do share !!
[02:08] <galathalion> why aint my screensaver wokring?
[02:09] <romudog> Kr4t05 Okay well then i suggest you use a LiveCD to minimize the possibility of writing over the deleted sectors and get the Photorec software installed to ramdisk
[02:09] <romudog> Kr4t05 I'll be right back
[02:09] <Kr4t05> romudog: Okay
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> restagner: go into system settings, printing, admin mode
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> there?
[02:10] <romudog> kr4t05 back
[02:10] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim:  I am (I realized I wanted to do this also)
[02:10] <restagner> nosrednaekim: yes
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> restagner: this is on the computer that has the printer attached
[02:10] <restagner> nosrednaekim: correct
[02:10] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: yep ;)
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> ok, up on the top of that window is a drop-down menu entitled "print server"
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> drop it down and enable the print server.
[02:11] <restagner> nosrednaekim: i see it
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> "share printers on local netowork"
[02:12] <restagner> nosrednaekim: you mean select "configue server"
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> restagner: do you have the printer already set up?
[02:12] <restagner> nosrednaekim: yes. an HP DeskJet
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> restagner: no. I mean select "share printers on local network"
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: you with us?
[02:13] <alex> hello, how can i make beryl start automatically?
[02:13] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: yep, got that done
[02:13] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: is there a need to configure the server?
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: you started it? and you have the local printer set up correctly?
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: no
[02:13] <restagner> nosrednaekim: i select the "print server" drop-down, but i see "restart server" and "configure server".
[02:14] <greg_g_> "share printer..." is enabled and yeah, it is set up correctly
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> restagner: thats odd, greg_g_saw what I see.... you're on fiesty?
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: lets wait for restagner.
[02:14] <restagner> nosrednaekim: actually, dapper
[02:14] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: no worries
[02:15] <Grant> hi
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> restagner: I don't know how to do it in dapper
[02:15] <greg_g_> restagner: just to  make sure, your printer is in the main area with the other things like "mail pdf file" "print to file" etc?
[02:15] <Grant> whoops
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> restagner: sorry.
[02:16] <restagner> greg_g: yes, what i see is my printer and then mail PDF file, Print to file, etc.
[02:16] <romudog> There is a pdf server for windows its open source so probably works for linux too
[02:16] <romudog> "PDF Creator"
[02:16] <restagner> nosrednaekim: ok. thanks
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: on your other computer, add a printer, make it remote cups,
[02:16] <greg_g_> restagner: then yeah, must be something that was added after dapper (the option in that menu, I'm sure it is possible, just not the same way)
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> restagner: look up a tutorial
[02:17] <restagner> nosrednaekim: any possible references . . . ?
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> restagner: maybe try setting up the print server although i'm not sure what that does
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> restagner: google ;)
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> !printing
[02:17] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:17] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: the other computer is not on right now, mainly because it is the gf's (who is out of town) and it is loud (yes, I am going to fix that)
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: well, ok, its pretty easy, just follow that add printer dialog with the first choice being remote cups(IPP/HTTP)
[02:19] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: cool.. thanks a lot
[02:19] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: NP
[02:20] <Kr4t05> romudog:
[02:20] <romudog> welcome back
[02:20] <Kr4t05> How do I run this thing?
[02:21] <romudog> Kr4t05 Check the wiki
[02:21] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: and, btw, I did "configure server" after changing the verification from root to my username so I could actually do it.  Only changed the max log size just to make sure I could (wasn't sure since I used my login instead of root)
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: ah.. is that how you get around that authorization problem.
[02:22] <romudog> http://www.penguin-soft.com/penguin/man/1/photorec.html
[02:22] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: I guess, worked for me
[02:22] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: what is the deal with the root user on ubuntu/debian?
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: doesn't for. me..:-/
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: its ubuntu and its sudo stuff
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> no root user.
[02:23] <greg_g_> gotcha
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> until you enable it manually (which I do right away)
[02:24] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: I got an error dialog after using my username, saying somethings aren't recognized (or something) but the config dialog came up and I was able to change the max log size without an error (I think, haven't exactly verified)
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> hm
[02:24] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: so, since you have root enabled you are able to get to that config ok or not?
[02:25] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: nah, I can't with root either which is rather weird
[02:25] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: very weird... so, is that a launchpad-able bug?
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: I don't know and don't really care.. haha Oh I know why. I don't have the server enable on this computer.
[02:26] <greg_g_> heh
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> thats WOULD do it..
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> *that
[02:27] <Kr4t05> romudog: Er... We have a problem.
[02:27] <romudog> What is it Kr4t05?
[02:27] <Kr4t05> I don't have enough space for all the recovered files.
[02:27] <greg_g_> the error: "Some options were not recognized by this configuration tool.  They will be left untouched and you won't be able to change them"
[02:27] <romudog> Kr4t05 Thats not good
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: thats not the error I get
[02:28] <greg_g_> "defaultauthtype = Basic" "require = user @OWNER @SYSTEM" "order = deny,allow" "="
[02:28] <greg_g_> all of those on separate lines
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> hm IDK
[02:29] <greg_g_> yeah, that is the error I get after I use my u/p and before the config dialog comes up
[02:29] <romudog> Kr4t05 I have a portable hard drive for things like that and about 5 spare HDD's
[02:29] <greg_g_> yeah, very weird
[02:29] <romudog> Writing to that partition could delete some of the files though.
[02:30] <AutoMatriX> hello, world :D
[02:30] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: the change of max size for logs stayed what I edited it to, so it must "work" whatever that means in this semi-broken way
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: yep.
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: so maybe you can show restagner how to set his server up from your configure server. window
[02:32] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: hmm, maybe
[02:32] <greg_g_> restagner: you still here?
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> restagner: you still around
[02:33] <nosrednaekim> guess not.
[02:35] <intelikey> howto, read the cmos clock from linux ?
[02:35] <intelikey> the "rtc" ?
[02:35] <greg_g_> nosrednaekim: all of the settings in the config dialog seem like "defaults" as in, where is the CUPS folder etc
[02:37] <intelikey> nobody ?
[02:37] <greg_g_> sorry
[02:38] <colonia> hey, how can I kill adept?, I mean, I was trying to use Automatix but it says adept still running (I already closed it)
[02:38] <Dragnslcr> colonia- you can kill processes from KSysGuard
[02:38] <intelikey> !automatix
[02:38] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu.  I'll just have to remake my backups or download what I no longer have. I paid for it once, I see no reason to do it again.
[02:40] <colonia> I'll try, thanks
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> greg_g_: ah ok
[02:40] <Kr4t05> ro
[02:40] <Kr4t05> romudog: Thanks anyway.
[02:40] <romudog> Kr4t05 Good luck!!!
[02:40] <greg_g_> launchpad question: Is "rejected" the right option to select if I want to cancel a bug, as in, it seems to no longer be reproducible on my computer, and never was on anyone elses
[02:40] <romudog> Kr4t05 Google linux recovery tool see if you can find any better
[02:41] <cWolfe> google makes a linux recovery tool?
[02:43] <romudog> Sorry i cant resist but yelling out a derogatory...
[02:43] <romudog> No...Google is a search engine..
[02:43] <romudog> Google reffers to the term of searching for...
[02:43] <romudog> :|
[02:43] <Dragnslcr> greg_g_- Dunno about Launchpad, but any decent bug tracking system should have an option/resolution for unable to reproduce
[02:45] <greg_g_> to answer myself: after some more looking (yes I looked before I asked) it seems that Rejected is the right option and that they are considering renaming that option to a less "emotionally changed" word like "declined" or "invalid"
[02:51] <Dragnslcr> Usually there's a slightly more descriptive option too, such as "not a bug" or "duplicate"
[02:52] <darkrift_> q: when watchign a movie in kaffiene, i only hear audio in one side of the headphones
[02:52] <darkrift_> anyone know how to check/fix that?
[02:53] <greg_g_> darkrift_: check your mixer first, the speaker icon in the tray
[02:54] <greg_g_> the horizontal slider on the bottom is balance
[02:54] <colonia> Whats the name of TLS package who is needed to install in order to run amsn?
[02:55] <greg_g> darkrift_: is that slider "centered"?
[02:56] <KoRNeTo> hi
[03:01] <K-Ryan> Hi guys
[03:01] <K-Ryan> How do I check what process is using my sound?
[03:02] <K-Ryan> Anyone?
[03:04] <K-Ryan> Anyone know how to check what process is using my sound?
[03:05] <K-Ryan> Okay, how about terminating a process that needs root?
[03:05] <K-Ryan> Why's it so quiet in here?
[03:08] <K-Ryan> Nobody?
[03:08] <K-Ryan> 8 minutes and nothing?
[03:08] <K-Ryan> Nobody has anything to say or ask?
[03:09] <K-Ryan> Please?
[03:09] <K-Ryan> !terminate
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about terminate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <K-Ryan> !kill
[03:09] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[03:09] <K-Ryan> !processes
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about processes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <K-Ryan> !process
[03:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about process - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:12] <K-Ryan> 12 minutes!
[03:13] <K-Ryan> Can nobody tell me how to end a process that uses root?
[03:13] <K-Ryan> Or how I can check what processes use my sound?
[03:14] <Jucato> sudo killall <insert process name here>
[03:14] <Jucato> (be careful with what you kill)
[03:14] <K-Ryan> Yes of course
[03:14] <K-Ryan> Thank you oh so much Jucato
[03:15] <K-Ryan> my console is definitely mocking me
[03:15] <K-Ryan> I ctrl+esc and I see hl.exe
[03:15] <K-Ryan> PID 7138
[03:15] <K-Ryan> So I "sudo killall 7138"
[03:15] <Jucato> I said process name, not process ID (PID)
[03:15] <K-Ryan> And get "7138: no process killed"
[03:15] <K-Ryan> Oh
[03:16] <ubuntu___> ?
[03:16] <K-Ryan> The one I heard about used PID
[03:16] <Jucato> you didn't hear it from me
[03:16] <ubuntu___> the book on the table ?
[03:16] <ubuntu___> books *
[03:16] <ubuntu___> XD
[03:16] <K-Ryan> I assumed process name meant PID
[03:16] <K-Ryan> Bad move on my part =P
[03:16] <roho> when i run adept, it now tells me there is a new version of kubuntu available and wants to know if i want to upgrade.  could someone point me to a page that will tell me what i can expect with the upgrade? like what problems, etc.
[03:16] <Dragnslcr> Hm, is there any way to reload the taskbar without restarting X?
[03:17] <K-Ryan> So the process name would be hl.exe right?
[03:17] <K-Ryan> Because it doesn't work
[03:17] <Jucato> Dragnslcr: "dcop kicker kicker restart"
[03:17] <K-Ryan> The command works, but the process is still there
[03:17] <Jucato> kill wine or wineserver.... why the hell is a windows app running as root?
[03:18] <K-Ryan> err
[03:18] <K-Ryan> To be honest I'm not sure
[03:18] <K-Ryan> But I needed sudo to get wine to be able to open an executable
[03:18] <K-Ryan> Btw, the process is still there.
[03:18] <Jucato> no
[03:19] <Jucato> you shouldn't need to use sudo w/ wine at all
[03:19] <Dragnslcr> Jucato- eh, that didn't have quite the effect I was hoping for (compiled taskbar-compiz to try to get rid of "show windows from all desktops")
[03:19] <K-Ryan> I'll try it again
[03:19] <K-Ryan> But I just need to figure out how to get rid of it atm
[03:19] <Jucato> Dragnslcr: running compiz/beryl? that doesn't work
[03:19] <Jucato> K-Ryan: if wineserver is running, kill that
[03:20] <Dragnslcr> What doesn't work?
[03:20] <Jucato> disabling "show windows from all desktop"
[03:20] <K-Ryan> It doesn't seem to be running, I'll check again though.
[03:20] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, and that's what the special taskbar-compiz version is supposed to fix
[03:21] <K-Ryan> wineserver isn't running
[03:21] <K-Ryan> What if I restart X?
[03:21] <Jucato> Dragnslcr: try asking around in #ubuntu-effects how to make it work. as for just restarting kicker without restarting KDE or X, you have the answer
[03:21] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I'll probably just try restarting X
[03:22] <K-Ryan> Alright I managed to get rid of one
[03:24] <roho> what kind of problems can i expect if i want to "convert" from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[03:24] <K-Ryan> how can i open up the process table from the console?
[03:24] <Dragnslcr> roho- if you're familiar with KDE, probably none
[03:25] <roho> sweet
[03:25] <Dragnslcr> If you've never used KDE, the typical learning experience
[03:25] <roho> just hanging out here and playing around with K apps has sold me.
[03:25] <roho> although i found a couple bugs
[03:29] <Ashex> This is total retardation
[03:29] <Ashex> gconf is causing my system to randomly reboot/freeze up
[03:32] <waltercool> !webcam
[03:32] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:32] <waltercool> someone can recommend me a good app for webcams?
[03:35] <splott> anyone alive in here?
[03:36] <splott> obviously not.
[03:37] <splott> obviously I should just go away and stop talking to myself.
[03:37] <roho> heh
[03:39] <Ashex> waltercool: I used to use camstreams
[03:39] <waltercool> is qt :S
[03:40] <Ashex> hmmm, I should stick my tortellini in the freezer...
[03:42] <ashnja> hello all
[03:42] <ashnja> i have a laptop that is using a d-link pcmcia card
[03:43] <ashnja> kubuntu detects it and uses atheros... but i do not get near the connectivity that (the OS that shall not be named) gets...
[03:43] <ashnja> that is not the bad part... the bad part is that it drops connection like every 5 minutes... something else that does not happen in..... you know what...
[03:44] <ashnja> how do i get kubuntu to use ndiswrapper and not the restricted module?
[03:44] <Ashex> ashnja: find out what the module is named, and add it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[03:45] <ashnja> it is currently using atheros
[03:45] <ashnja> so i edit blacklist and add atheros
[03:46] <Ashex> i believe so
[03:46] <ashnja> Ashex: once i do that... how do i go about getting ndiswapper operational and loading upon reboot
[03:49] <Ashex> sudo apt-get install ndsiwrapper
[03:49] <Ashex> ndiswrapper -i driver.inf
[03:49] <Ashex> sudo ndiswrapper -m
[03:49] <Ashex> that'll install ndiswrapper, load the proper driver, and add it to modprobe
[03:50] <Ashex> although, check up on a guide for your wireless chipset
[03:50] <Ashex> I'm not exactly a wireless guru
[03:50] <navets> where do I go for html help?
[03:50] <Ashex> ubuntuforums.org has a lot of good info
[03:50] <navets> k thx
[03:51] <Ashex> along with the ubuntu wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[03:51] <Ashex> however, you should try googling it too, use your chipset in conjuction with the word ubuntu
[03:51] <ashnja> thank you very much for your info
[03:51] <Ashex> so, for example, I have a broadcom 4316, so I'd google for "Broadcom 4316 ubuntu"
[03:52] <Ashex> or more specifically, "Broadcom 4316 ubuntu ndiswrapper" to look for ndiswrapper info specifically
[03:52] <Jucato> !wiki
[03:52] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[04:06] <vlad88> porque nadie habla? XD
[04:09] <waltercool> porque esto es en ingles po noob
[04:10] <NickPresta> !es | vlad88 waltercool
[04:10] <ubotu> vlad88 waltercool: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:10] <vlad88> thanks, I did not know it.
[04:13] <Levi_> Does anyone know how to configure Apache 2?
[04:13] <Levi_> Does anyone know how to configure Apache 2?
[04:15] <vlad88> How can I set the "home" extra button in the keyboard to open the default browser?
[04:16] <vlad88> "Calculator" works fine opening speedchrunch
[04:16] <nosrednaekim> vlad88: what does the web browser button open?
[04:16] <vlad88> etc. but "home" just does nothing, neither Konqueror, nor Firefox (which is my default browser)
[04:17] <vlad88> it does nothing
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> vlad88: run "dmesg"
[04:17] <nosrednaekim> then press that key once
[04:18] <nosrednaekim> then run dmesg again. see if it added some new output.
[04:19] <vlad88> nop
[04:19] <vlad88> nothing new
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> vlad88: what does the last line look like?
[04:20] <vlad88> "[ 7312.492801]  end_request: I/O error, dev hdd, sector 4"
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> vlad88: ok, cool
[04:20] <nosrednaekim> vlad88: that means its detected as a keypress by the os.
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> not as a random ACPI event
[04:21] <nosrednaekim> so start up system settings
[04:21] <vlad88> yes
[04:22] <vlad88> (does it matter that I pressed around 5 times after that a not new message appears in dmesg?)
[04:22] <Ashex> anyone know of a note taking app like tomboy for kubuntu?
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> Ashex: basKet
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> vlad88: it means your kepress is detected as a keypress :)
[04:23] <Ashex> ah, thanks nosrednaekim :)
[04:23] <nosrednaekim> go to keyboard&mouse
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> keyboard shortcuts.
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> command shortcuts
[04:24] <nosrednaekim> find your webbrowser
[04:25] <nosrednaekim> vlad88: got there?
[04:26] <estebanbianchi> hello
[04:26] <vlad88> nosrednaekim, yes thanks
[04:26] <estebanbianchi> anybody_
[04:26] <vlad88> the key was: XF86WWW
[04:27] <nosrednaekim> vlad88: ok
[04:27] <nosrednaekim> hello
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> estebanbianchi, howdy
[04:27] <Arwen> I need a newer version of a package than the one in the repositories, what should I do?
[04:27] <nosrednaekim> vlad88: so it works?
[04:27] <estebanbianchi> im running i this moment a feisty live c
[04:27] <estebanbianchi> i-d like to install but i cant
[04:27] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: what package?
[04:27] <Arwen> mplayer
[04:27] <nosrednaekim> estebanbianchi: why not?
[04:27] <vlad88> nosrednaekim, yes it's working :), Thank you. btw. this is the preferred way of doing this?
[04:28] <nosrednaekim> vlad88: yep!
[04:28] <estebanbianchi> cause when it starts the proceces iut stops in 15%
[04:28] <Arwen> so? any thoughts?
[04:28] <nosrednaekim> vlad88: at least I think it is.
[04:28] <hitmanWilly> Arwen, you could always download the newest one from sourceforge
[04:28] <estebanbianchi> i tried with ext2 and ext3
[04:28] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: it should be safe enough, search around on google, you can ussually find one
[04:28] <vlad88> As in Windiws that key is redirected to open the default program for html... anyway, its works, and works fine. Thanks.
[04:28] <Arwen> hitmanWilly, nosrednaekim, yes, I could build it myself, but that would bork apt wouldn't it?
[04:28] <hitmanWilly> Arwen, i think taht's where mplayer is hosted
[04:29] <Arwen> hitmanWilly, hint: sourceforge hosts *sources*
[04:29] <nosrednaekim> estebanbianchi: you might have to get the alternate installer.
[04:29] <jacques> chinese irc?
[04:29] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: you can build it as a deb and then install it.
[04:29] <estebanbianchi> and..that probelam might be caused for...
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> Arwen, not if you remove the current one through apt first
[04:29] <nosrednaekim> !ch
[04:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:29] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, the question is how...
[04:29] <Arwen> !cn
[04:29] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[04:29] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: its really quite easy. there are tutorials.
[04:30] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, oh? and please don't say checkinstall. That screws up all the dependencies.
[04:30] <estebanbianchi> and whats the diference betwen regular and altenate nosrednaekim
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> Arwen, i think its make_kpkg or something similar...but don't quote me :)
[04:30] <Arwen> estebanbianchi, regular is a live cd that you can test the OS with. Alternate is a true installer with all the options you'd expect.
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: I haven't done it in forever, I don't know if checkinstall was one of the steps
[04:31] <nosrednaekim> and its a bit more stable
[04:31] <Arwen> link to a guide? because debian packaging is a pain in the ***
[04:31] <estebanbianchi> like ubuntu breezy
[04:31] <Arwen> um, hate to break it to ya, but Breezy is dead.
[04:32] <estebanbianchi> well i might install the old ubuntu 5.10 and downoload the kub freezy
[04:32] <Arwen> freezy? lol
[04:32] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, so, get any links?
[04:32] <nosrednaekim> breezy is not going to play well with new hardware
[04:32] <hitmanWilly> estebanbianchi, the alternate cd is a more traditional style linux installer...uses ncurses vice X if im not mistaken
[04:32] <Arwen> god damn it, compiling should have a progress bar!
[04:32] <estebanbianchi> but i will to install via console_..o i will have options?
[04:33] <hitmanWilly> estebanbianchi, and gives you more detailed install options
[04:33] <Arwen> yes. lots of them.
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: it was a long time ago, i'm sorry. it was a tutorial on how to build amarok form source.
[04:33] <Arwen> heh...
[04:33] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: KDE4's does...cmake does it for you
[04:34] <Arwen> it always scares me when gcc returns all these warnings... makes me feel something's actually broken :-\
[04:34] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: heh, fatal ones are.. the... fatal ones..lol
[04:36] <Arwen> one of the things I hate most about debian packaging is compiling an app... and then noticing that everything's ruined because of a bad line in debian/rules ..
[04:36] <vlad88> what's for debian/rules?
[04:36] <Arwen> it's a makefile that describes how to compile an app
[04:36] <Arwen> !packaging | vlad88
[04:36] <ubotu> vlad88: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[04:38] <vlad88> nice, I'm going to read it, I'm kind of newbie in this, so many new things :p. thanks for the link Arwen
[04:38] <estebanbianchi> can i make downloads with the livecd?
[04:41] <zoohouse> Hello everyone
[04:41] <Arwen> since it's late and nobody's here, any anime freaks here? :-P
[04:41] <zoohouse> I want to run winxp in a vm but I don't know which to choose. Which would be better Xen or VMware?
[04:42] <nosrednaekim> zoohouse: vmware
[04:42] <Arwen> zoohouse, how new is your processor? I'd go with vmware.
[04:42] <zoohouse> Why vmware?
[04:42] <Arwen> it's better (tm)
[04:42] <vlad88> lol
[04:43] <zoohouse> heh
[04:43] <Arwen> dang, ffmpeg compiles slow..
[04:43] <estebanbianchi> back
[04:43] <Arwen> estebanbianchi, yo
[04:43] <vlad88> wait, talking about ffmepg, how can I compile it with 3gp support?
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> zoohouse: its just more polished
[04:43] <vlad88> I tried it around 15 times
[04:43] <zoohouse> k
[04:43] <vlad88> :(
[04:43] <Arwen> vlad88, 3gp is the same thing as mp4
[04:43] <zoohouse> ill give it a shot
[04:43] <zoohouse> thanks
[04:44] <estebanbianchi> i made a cuestion before the crash...
[04:44] <estebanbianchi> can i start the altenate cd download with the livecd?
[04:44] <estebanbianchi> or may i install a real os
[04:44] <estebanbianchi> ?
[04:44] <Arwen> estebanbianchi, you won't have anywhere near enough RAM to cache that. Don't bother.
[04:44] <Arwen> but you can use the LiveCD to install the OS, yes.
[04:44] <hitmanWilly> estebanbianchi, you'll need to mount some kind of writable drive to save it to
[04:45] <estebanbianchi> i have mi hd
[04:45] <estebanbianchi> but i better install the old breezy
[04:45] <hitmanWilly> estebanbianchi, how is it formatted? ntfs or something else?
[04:46] <estebanbianchi> i think in this moment  its ext3
[04:46] <estebanbianchi> let me check
[04:46] <Arwen> ick, subpixel aa makes text hard to read on a CRT
[04:46] <hitmanWilly> oh, wait, can you burn a cd if you're on a live-cd?
[04:47] <hitmanWilly> should be able too...just keep the OS in memory...
[04:47] <Arwen> hitmanWilly, only if you have 2 drives
[04:47] <Arwen> and an assload of RAM
[04:47] <NickPresta> hitmanWilly, you should be able to if you have two CD drives
[04:48] <NickPresta> Arwen, what are you compiling?
[04:48] <vlad88> Arwen, an easy way to add mp4/3gp support to ffmpeg?
[04:48] <Arwen> NickPresta, VLC this time
[04:48] <Arwen> vlad88, it should already be there
[04:48] <Arwen> if not, get medibuntu's build
[04:48] <Arwen> !medibuntu
[04:48] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[04:48] <hitmanWilly> estebanbianchi, ok, you'll need to reboot to a os on the hd to burn the cd anyway...sorry :(
[04:48] <estebanbianchi> well i have a awap partiot
[04:48] <NickPresta> Arwen, out of curiosity, why are you compiling VLC?
[04:48] <vlad88> nice, thanks!
[04:48] <estebanbianchi> and a lot of free space
[04:49] <Arwen> NickPresta, because I want to be on the bleeding edge
[04:49] <Arwen> also, Ubuntu's VLC is half-assed
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> i think it has all its internal support for proprietary codecs compiled out...legal issues
[04:49] <NickPresta> Arwen, ah okay. Makes sense. I, too, compile stuff at times for bleeding edge. What does the newer version of VLC have over the repo. version?
[04:50] <Arwen> NickPresta, bugfixes. But the reason I'm compiling is for DMO/win32 support
[04:50] <estebanbianchi> may i format the free space in a specific filesistem in order to be recognised by the livecd_
[04:50] <Arwen> also, since VLC is statically linked to ffmpeg, I need to do this for new decoders
[04:51] <Arwen> estebanbianchi, filesystems don't have free space
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> estebanbianchi, the live cd will mount any recoignized partiton type just fine, you just have to do it by hand
[04:52] <NickPresta> Arwen, oh neat. I really wish there was a bleeding edge repo. that contained apache/php/perl/mysql/etc. I was thinking of becoming a package manager and setting up my own repo, etc but I don't have the time.
[04:52] <estebanbianchi> so..what is the console commnd to mount a hss_
[04:52] <Arwen> yeah, I don't have the bandwidth, but I have lots and lots of time :-)
[04:52] <estebanbianchi> hdd?
[04:52] <Arwen> estebanbianchi, "mount"
[04:52] <estebanbianchi> i have to be run as sudo>
[04:52] <estebanbianchi> ?
[04:53] <Arwen> yes
[04:53] <hitmanWilly> estebanbianchi, sudo mount -t <filesystem_type> /dev/<hard_drive> <mountpoint>
[04:54] <NickPresta> Arwen, well, I have the time to do it but I have the time to compile it for myself and such but to make the package, make sure it works for everyone else, etc, etc is too time consuming. It really would be nice though. That is a project I would donate to since I always have to compile my own web. dev. environment.
[04:54] <hitmanWilly> estebanbianchi, inserting appropriate values in the <>
[04:55] <estebanbianchi> oh, thanks hitmanWilly
[04:55] <vlad88> There's any real improvement in compiling your own kernel?
[04:55] <Arwen> vlad88, depends what you're looking for
[04:55] <Arwen> performance improvement? probably not unless you're doing some heavy duty stuff.
[04:55] <NickPresta> vlad88, my stance on that has always been: if you have no specific reason to roll your own kernel, don't bother.
[04:55] <hitmanWilly> vlad88, yes, but its not worth it for ubuntu
[04:55] <vlad88> nice
[04:55] <vlad88> hitmanWilly, why not for Ubuntu?
[04:55] <Arwen> basically, you run into tons of problems with custom kernels since Ubuntu's kernels have all kinds of tweaks
[04:55] <Arwen> nonstandard ones at that
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> vlad88, its a real pita to roll your own for ubuntu, and it gets killed on the next kernel update anyway
[04:56] <vlad88> :O
[04:56] <Arwen> also, if you have ATI, your graphics card won't work with a kernel past 2.6.20 :-)
[04:57] <vlad88> nah, I have a crappy Unichrome Pro (P4M800), using Openchrome drivers
[04:57] <Arwen> unichrome? as in black/white?
[04:57] <vlad88> haha
[04:57] <vlad88> that's monochrome I think
[04:57] <vlad88> well
[04:58] <vlad88> actually your'e right
[04:58] <Arwen> YES! IT WORKED!
[04:58] <Arwen> LOL
[04:58] <Arwen> so you have a monochrome video card?
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> Arwen, :) good for you
[04:58] <Arwen> hitmanWilly, hehe, I'm not done yet... now I have to pray debian/rules isn't b0rk3d
[04:58] <Arwen> and... it is
[04:59] <vlad88> [20:58]  <Arwen> so you have a monochrome video card? => no! LOL
[04:59] <Dr_willis> CGA mode!
[04:59] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:59] <hitmanWilly> Arwen, you could always just make install it...
[05:00] <NickPresta> Out of curiosity, has anyone used the Action Replay DS's software on GNU+Linux?
[05:00] <vlad88> 20:59]  <Dr_willis> CGA mode! => lol
[05:01] <Arwen> noooo.... my ascii art video drivers are missing!
[05:01] <vlad88> hahaha
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:02] <vlad88> XD
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> Arwen, i think you have to compile that into the kernel :P
[05:02] <Arwen> yeah, somehow VLC compiled with aa disabled.... irritating..
[05:02] <Dr_willis> yea AA is such a IN demand feature!:)
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> Arwen, you may have to play around in its make.conf...
[05:03] <Arwen> yeah, it's not a big deal, but still...
[05:03] <Arwen> hitmanWilly, it's weird though, I'm using Ubuntu's default config
[05:03] <Arwen> it should be on
[05:03] <Dr_willis> i seem to recall that working once in ubuntu for me
[05:03] <Dr_willis> over ssh even
[05:04] <Dr_willis> was playing with mc. and some how started a video. :) was watching Porn in Ascii Art
[05:04] <Dr_willis> I was all confused
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> or if you even can...
[05:07] <leomcabral> Any one know a tool for recording the desktop?
[05:07] <vlad88> does anybody know of Autocad working over Wine?
[05:08] <NickPresta> leomcabral, I really like RecordMyDesktop
[05:08] <Dr_willis> vlad88,  ive never had any luck in that.. over the last 5+ years. :) not tried a recent autocad lately however
[05:08] <estebanbianchi> well i might leave
[05:08] <NickPresta> leomcabral, it is provided by the 'recordmydesktop' package. You want a frontend though - 'gtk-recordmydesktop' is slightly better than 'qt-recordmydesktop'
[05:08] <estebanbianchi> i love the comunity
[05:09] <estebanbianchi> they never let me alone
[05:09] <estebanbianchi> thanks guys
[05:09] <leomcabral> NickPresta: it did not work to me, when I try to playback the ogg file kaffeine shows a blue screen
[05:09] <Dr_willis> leomcabral,  sounds like you may be missing a video codec to play the video.
[05:09] <vlad88> Dr_willis, do you think Bricscard can replace Autocad in Linux?
[05:10] <leomcabral> Dr_willis: its a ogg file, I thought I had the codec
[05:11] <mneptok> leomcabral: URL?
[05:11] <Dr_willis> vlad88,  never used that one. I only have minimal cad needs these days. Been using qcad mainly
[05:11] <hitmanWilly> leomcabral, ogg is just a container...not a media type
[05:12] <leomcabral> hitmanWilly: so what codec recordmydesktop use
[05:12] <leomcabral> ?
[05:12] <hitmanWilly> leomcabral, probably theora
[05:12] <leomcabral> mneptok: I did not get it!
[05:12] <vlad88> Dr_willis, any good 3d cad you know?, nothing professional, just for homeworks and so
[05:13] <hitmanWilly> leomcabral, that's the usual video type stored in ogg format
[05:13] <leomcabral> hitmanWilly: Kubuntu did not come with it?
[05:14] <Dr_willis> vlad88,  no idea there. I aint needed 3d in ages..
[05:14] <hitmanWilly> leomcabral, should have....
[05:14] <leomcabral> hitmanWilly: what's the package name?
[05:14] <vlad88> Thanks anyway Dr_willis :)
[05:15] <leomcabral> hitmanWilly: libtheora0 is installed
[05:15] <leomcabral> hitmanWilly: i'm trying to install libtheora-bin
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> leomcabral, hmmm, maybe the capture app isn't working right for you then....
[05:16] <NickPresta> I can't even playback my desktop recording ([xv]  Source image dimensions are too high: 3360x1040 (maximum is 2046x2046))
[05:16] <leomcabral> hitmanWilly: I can playback it well on MPlayer (it tells me i have a missing codec as well)
[05:17] <vlad88> Any Calc better than SpeedCrunch?
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> wait, does it save it as xvid?
[05:18] <vlad88> I tried xmaxima... but after Derive it (xmaxima) seems pretty old
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> or is the [xv]  something else?
[05:18] <leomcabral> hitmanWilly: don't know!!! But i can see xvid movies here, so i have the codec
[05:19] <leomcabral> hitmanWilly: I missed it, what is [xv] ?
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> leomcabral, might be an issue with xine...you can probably change kaffeine to use mplayer
[05:19] <leomcabral> hitmanWilly: I know xine have it
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> leomcabral, from NickPresta's error msg
[05:20] <NickPresta> it's an Ogg Theora video.
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> that's what i thought...the xv thing threw me for a sec there....
[05:20] <Dr_willis> id say try vlc from the terminal , or some other player. see what sort of info they spit out.
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> yeah, same here...
[05:21] <leomcabral> hitmanWilly: I can play with kaffeine now, i changed xine video driver to xshm
[05:22] <leomcabral> it was in "auto"
[05:23] <ubuntu__> will kubuntu wwwwork with 1680-1050 and look ok
[05:23] <leomcabral> hitmanWilly: i have to do the same thing to get videos working in kaffeine with beryl
[05:23] <leomcabral> ps.: I'm not using beryl now
[05:23] <NickPresta> ubuntu__, yes, Kubuntu looks fine at 1680x1050. I use that resolution for many months.
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu__, yes, use that setting myself
[05:24] <Arwen> hmm, yeah, too b0rk3d to use
[05:24] <estebanbianchi> hey is any possibility to uninstall th ksnapshot...i have the impr pant button to close to the delete button..and i activate the snapshot frecuently
[05:24] <darwin81> I have a 250GB HDD and I want to install Kubuntu on it. I have 20GB for a Windows partition and the rest for Ubuntu. I want to give about 10GB for the Kubuntu install. What is the best way to do this? (I know I can install KDE in GNOME, but that makes things cluttered)
[05:26] <CadaverPimp> darwin81: I have a 500GB hdd with 120GB to winxp and the rest to KUBUNTU. Minus 4 GB for SWAP. I have KDE, GNOME and XFCE all rolled into one. Cluttered? Hardly
[05:27] <morph_> hello all
[05:27] <DaSkreech> estebanbianchi: I guess you could change the button that calls it to ctrl+PrntScrn
[05:27] <estebanbianchi> oh thanks DaSkreech
[05:27] <draik> darwin81: I don't know, that's just me
[05:27] <morph_> I just installed openoffice on 7.04 and when I start writer it has no graphics
[05:28] <morph_> anyone know why?
[05:28] <morph_> is there something missing
[05:28] <fabioasj> Fala Galera e ai
[05:28] <DaSkreech> morph_: You installed OO.o?
[05:28] <morph_> yes
[05:28] <fabioasj> estou procurando um brasileiro
[05:28] <DaSkreech> Shouldn't it be installed by default?
[05:28] <DaSkreech> !br
[05:28] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:28] <fabioasj> sim
[05:28] <morph_> I removed it
[05:29] <fabioasj> portugues
[05:29] <morph_> uninstalled
[05:29] <morph_> couldnt start it with kiba dock
[05:29] <morph_> thought it was not installed correctly
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> morph_, doubt its a dependency issue, apt/adept should automagically pull those in on install
[05:30] <DaSkreech> !pt
[05:30] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[05:30] <DaSkreech> :-)
[05:30] <DaSkreech> morph_: try installing the OO.o KDE support
[05:30] <morph_> all oo.o programs have no graphics in gui
[05:31] <morph_> ok trying now
[05:32] <vlad88> good night, thanks for all!
[05:32] <darwin81> draik, Well do you know what I can do to do what I asked?
[05:33] <draik> Partition Magic if doing it from winxp or QT Parted if done from Kubuntu
[05:35] <darwin81> Can I just set aside 10GB of free space and tell the Kubuntu installer to use the largest free space?
[05:35] <ardchoille> darwin81: Yes, you can create a partition and tell the kubuntu installer to use that partition for the install.
[05:37] <darwin81> How would that affect GRUB? Could a separate Kubuntu install use the same swap space as Ubuntu?
[05:37] <ardchoille> grub will find your other installs and add them to the menu
[05:37] <DaSkreech> darwin81: that's not a lot of space and yes it will use the same swap space
[05:38] <ardchoille> Not sure about swap partitions.. I don't think I've ever used mine.
[05:38] <DjDarkman> Hy, no mather what I do amarok won`t play mp3`s, what should I try?
[05:38] <Dr_willis> darwin81,  swap parittions can be used by all the disrtos.
[05:38] <darwin81> I just wanna try out Kubuntu with a fresh install. I think 10GB would be enough.
[05:38] <DjDarkman> I have another system, that plays mp3`s just right with the same setup
[05:38] <crimsun> DjDarkman: is libxine1-ffmpeg installed?
[05:38] <DaSkreech> DjDarkman: did you install MP3 support?
[05:39] <darwin81> Also would that mean that mean I would have to edit the GRUB files in the Kubuntu install instead?
[05:40] <DjDarkman> ahhh this was the problem
[05:40] <Dr_willis> ubuntu/kubuntu installs ive see - are good in finding all the other disrtos and setting up grub for them
[05:40] <DjDarkman> you should update the faq on kubuntu.org
[05:40] <DjDarkman> it`s information that it diplays is no longer relevant
[05:42] <DaSkreech> DjDarkman: installing libxine-extracodecs still works
[05:42] <DjDarkman> DaSkreech: no it will not, maybe it`s dependencies are not set up right
[05:47] <darwin81> Are there only DVD's available for BitTorrent?
[05:47] <DaSkreech> no
[05:47] <DaSkreech> all images have a torrent file
[05:58] <thev> Amarok can move data back and forth from my MTP device, no problem.  Anyone have any idea how I can browse it in konqueror?
[06:02] <vecina> um... how come pressing 'backspace' when i have the shift key held down logs me out?
[06:03] <crimsun> it doesn't here.
[06:03] <vecina> Yes, it does. anywhere.
[06:03] <vecina> o.O
[06:03] <vecina> it -didnt- but now it does
[06:04] <DaSkreech> vecina: Sure your alt or ctrl kes aren't stuck ?
[06:05] <Dr_willis> Thats a GLX thing...
[06:05] <Dr_willis> i do belive.
[06:05] <Dr_willis> beryl/glx/whatever ya call it.
[06:05] <vecina> oops i just did it
[06:05] <vecina> gah
[06:05] <vecina> no they're not stuckk, because when it does this it just logs out to a blue screen and i have to press 'ctrl-alt-backspace' to get to the login
[06:06] <darwin81> Is there a better way of checking MD5SUMs other than just looking at them?
[06:06] <vecina> Shift and backspace should not do anything. i saw no mention in the keyboard shortcuts
[06:06] <Dr_willis> the md5sum command has some optons
[06:06] <Dr_willis> vecina,  i recall it being some special 'exit' sequence for the fancy 3d  stuff thats in glx/beryl
[06:07] <Dr_willis> Its not a kde/gnome shortcut. but one for the beryl window manager
[06:07] <Dr_willis> !beryl
[06:07] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:07] <vecina> WOAH! loading up KDBus did the same thing
[06:08] <vecina> whats going on
[06:08] <DaSkreech> Shift backspace is a beryl bug
[06:09] <vecina> DaSkreech: well i just installed beryl
[06:09] <vecina> DaSkreech: However, beryl is not currently activated and its still doing it
[06:09] <DaSkreech> vecina: press alt+space
[06:09] <DaSkreech> what do you get ?
[06:09] <vecina> DaSkreech: katapult
[06:10] <DaSkreech> hmm ok
[06:10] <vecina> DaSkreech: my dbus viewing program did the EXACT same thing
[06:10] <DaSkreech> far as i know that's a beryl bug taken from Compiz
[06:10] <vecina> its not the same as ctrl-alt-backspace.
[06:10] <ubuntu__> !video
[06:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[06:11] <ubuntu__> !video card
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about video card - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <DaSkreech> right I know what you are talking about but it's from beryl. there is a an easy fix for it
[06:11] <ubuntu__> !videocard
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about videocard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <ubuntu__> !graphics
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <ubuntu__> !list
[06:11] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:11] <DaSkreech> You just have to disable the shift+backspace key combo
[06:11] <vecina> DaSkreech: thats nowhere in the beryl settings
[06:12] <DaSkreech> vecina: I know :-P that's why it's a bug and not a feature
[06:12] <vecina> DaSkreech: Erm... so what do i do?
[06:12] <DaSkreech> vecina: you could ask in #ubuntu-efffects
[06:13] <vecina> alright...
[06:13] <DaSkreech> the fix used to be in gconf-editor for compiz
[06:13] <DaSkreech> as far as i know in beryl they uncoupled that and you can just put in a file. I don't know the name of the file though
[06:13] <darwin81> Can I compare the contents of a CD to an ISO file?
[06:14] <rathel__> hmm... Kopete doesn't seem to be saving my settings automatically, I'm trying to hide the "Formatting Toolbar" but everytime I reopen up the Chat window is back.
[06:14] <DaSkreech> darwin81: sort of. but ...
[06:15] <DaSkreech> darwin81: if you have already burnt the CD it has a CD check on it
[06:16] <vecina> lol, it's actually a "Feature" of xgl. a developer thought ctrl-alt-backspace was too hard and shift-backspace made mroe sense
[06:16] <Dr_willis> im trying to figure out how all these people accidently hit shift-backspace :)
[06:17] <Dr_willis> like one guy i saw complaining about a bug that Ctrl-PrintScreen locked up his pc all the time.
[06:17] <Dr_willis> its a debugging the kernel feature. :)
[06:17] <thev> Why does the save dialogue in Firefox look like Gnomish, instead of KDEish?
[06:17] <rathel__> lol What's shift-backspace do?
[06:17] <darwin81> Dr_willis, What does that do?  It won't lock up for Ctrl+Print screen
[06:20] <Dr_willis> and a lights out game
[06:20] <DaSkreech> I can get it to reboot on command though :)
[06:20] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  it may be disabled by default now a days. :)
[06:21] <Dr_willis> DaSkreech,  make a user called 'halt' that has a shell of /bin/halt :) and no password..
[06:21] <Dr_willis> did that once so the wife could shut down the linux box from the login: prompt. years ago heh.
[06:22] <DaSkreech> su halt
[06:22] <AlphaCluster> anyone here that can help me get a sata drive recognized
[06:23] <rathel__> I'm having an Issue with Samba Server I think I set it up correctly, When I do \\(ip address) in Windows and I type in my Username and Password, I get "is not accessible. You might not have permission.. blah blah"
[06:23] <Dr_willis> rathel__,  well #1 - did ya make a user have a smbpasswd with 'sudo smbpasswd -a USERNAME' ?
[06:24] <Dr_willis> rathel__,  also you did install the samba server packages?  you did enable the Home shares in the smb config file? (and then restarted the service)
[06:24] <Dr_willis> Thats about the 3 steps i always seem to do. Not sure if the smbpasswd is needed under feisty any more
[06:24] <rathel__> Dr_willis: hmm... lol no, I just went into the "Sharing" in the System Settings part.
[06:25] <Dr_willis> rathel__,  that 'way' does not enable the full samba. thats a web/interface i THINK.
[06:25] <Dr_willis> I never use that 'way' :)
[06:25] <Dr_willis> so i may be wrong.
[06:25] <mrbrdo> guys, has something been changed regarding to wlan in feisty? after i upgraded from edgy i started having problems with madwifi-ng, i create my dev in monitor mode but the mac address of the new dev is wrong. didn't happen in edgy :S
[06:30] <rathel__> Dr_willis: I enabled homes in the config, now how would I restart it? lol
[06:30] <Dr_willis> sudo /etc/rc.d/samba restart
[06:30] <Dr_willis> or similer
[06:30] <Dr_willis> theres some other nicer command. but i forget what it is
[06:31] <Dr_willis>        \\ip.add.re.ss\youruser (MIGHT) work for ya.
[06:31] <Dr_willis>        \\ip.add.re.ss\home  might also.
[06:32] <Dr_willis> the homes share is special and is uspposed to go to the users home dir. but some times it gets confused
[06:32] <rathel__> Dr_willis: It's working now, and I didn't restart it. :X
[06:33] <Dr_willis>  i always enable write permission to the shares as well
[06:33] <Dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[06:33] <ubotu> samba-doc: Samba documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 6754 kB, installed size 14512 kB
[06:34] <Dr_willis> samba-doc has several guides/books in Html format. thats good for reading
[06:34] <rathel__> Okay, thank's I'll check it out.
[06:35] <rathel__> I'm downloading the samba-doc now, how do I access it when it's finished? lol I newb.
[06:36] <Dr_willis> it puts some docs some where.. use the package manager to see what it isntalls where
[06:36] <Dr_willis>  - /usr/share/docs/SOMTHING is my guess
[06:36] <jacques> ubotu> how can I connect to french irc?
[06:36] <Dr_willis> !fr
[06:36] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:36] <rathel__> Aw yes the package manager... somehow I forgot about that.
[06:43] <jacques_> hi there
[06:48] <bryan> Hey guys/girls, can anyone help with this? Im quite honestly pretty desperate right now: Did a clean install of Ubuntu on my Macbook (well, friend did), Ubunu runs fine, but I REALLY need OS X back right now, and my Macbook refuses to boot from the Apple install DVD, which I know is fine.....?
[06:48] <bryan> I get a "Cannont mount" error message?
[06:49] <DaSkreech> bryan: can you type in df -h on the command line and pastebin it
[06:49] <DaSkreech> !paste | bryan
[06:49] <ubotu> bryan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:49] <bryan> ooops, haha, sorry about that
[06:52] <bryan> what happens after I paste?
[06:53] <DaSkreech> you will get a URL paste that back in this chan
[06:53] <bryan> and, I apologize in advance for any horribly noob questions, Ive run Linux on my Mac boxes for a while, but virtually, this was a 1st hard install, ok, ill get the url
[06:54] <bryan> ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26220/
[06:54] <bryan> i hope thats correct :)
[06:55] <DaSkreech> "=_
[06:55] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:55] <crdlb> bryan, you're rebooting with the cd in the drive?
[06:55] <bryan> yeah, as normal, Ill take my "noob" comment, Im quite proficient in OSX, and Im rebooting my MB as usual, "C" to boot from the drive
[06:56] <bryan> simply not working? And when Im in Ubuntu, and insert the install DVD, I get a 'cannot mount volume" error message
[06:56] <DaSkreech> bryan: ha ha :)
[06:56] <DaSkreech> are you in Ubuntu now?
[06:56] <bryan> yeah Im in Konversation now
[06:57] <DaSkreech> bryan: ok open konsole
[06:57] <bryan> haha, ok ok, well, noob as far as Linux hard installs go, of course, and this, to me at this point, is a huge problem haha
[06:58] <bryan> well, ill restate, im using Konversatio in Gnome, so, just open the terminal im gueeins? :) haha, dont kill me
[06:58] <DaSkreech> type in df -h and copy the output into paste bin :) give us back the URL for that one
[06:59] <DaSkreech> certainly
[06:59] <bryan> ok done: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26222/
[07:00] <bryan> the funny thing is, after I get OS X back, im 100% going to make this MB a dual boot with Ubuntu or Kubuntu haha, its been a looong day, but, I still am enjoying Linux, haha
[07:00] <bryan> love/hate at the moment:)
[07:02] <codyman> i have an athlon xp 1600+ w/ 768 mb ram & nvidia 5500 fx ... i'm loving kubuntu and its interface... but I am getting not the greatest performance out of simple kde actions such as windows opening / closing etc. .. I know my system is older but is this normal for my specs?
[07:02] <DaSkreech> How big is your hard drive?
[07:02] <Daisuke-Ido> http://xkcd.com/c278.html
[07:03] <bryan> usually in OSX about 72GB avail
[07:03] <bryan> 80GB drive
[07:05] <bryan> when Ubuntu was installed from the LiveCD, the whole disk was used, "guided installation" if thats a factor
[07:06] <Dodger73> yello
[07:07] <DaSkreech> crdlb: you know macs?
[07:07] <crdlb> nope
[07:07] <Dodger73> is there anyone here who knows a little about the intricacies of fglrx under feisty?
[07:07] <Dodger73> i can't seem to get it to work... :/
[07:07] <bryan> damn haha, Im striking out, its an Intel Mac if it matters...
[07:07] <Dodger73> crdlb: cool :) willing to help me out a little?
[07:08] <Dodger73> ah nm
[07:08] <crdlb> Dodger73, ok what's the output of fglrxinfo?
[07:08] <Dodger73> ok
[07:08] <codyman> who needs help with a mac
[07:08] <Dodger73> here it is:
[07:08] <DaSkreech> bryan: well.. uubuntu takes up about 72 GB according to this
[07:09] <bryan> wow
[07:09] <Dodger73> crdlb:  X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
[07:09] <Dodger73> Major opcode of failed request:  128 (XFree86-DRI)
[07:09] <crdlb> Dodger73, that sounds like you're using vesa
[07:09] <bryan> is there any reason though the Apple install disc shouldnt be mounting? or bootable?
[07:09] <Dodger73> no, using fglrx in xorg.conf
[07:09] <crdlb> Dodger73, pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:09] <crdlb> and what ati card do you have?
[07:09] <crdlb> !pastebin
[07:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:10] <bryan> i read some docs on the etc/fsatb folder, but, for some odd reason, I have no fsatb folder
[07:10] <DaSkreech> bryan: it's a file
[07:10] <DaSkreech>  /etc/fstab
[07:10] <bryan> yeah exactly
[07:10] <bryan> not even there?
[07:11] <Dodger73> crdlb: on it
[07:11] <Dodger73> crdlb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26223/
[07:11] <DaSkreech> not even there what?
[07:11] <bryan> went to places>computer>etc> and theres no fstab
[07:12] <Dodger73> also, it's a X1900xtx PCI-e
[07:12] <bryan> is that the wrong directory?
[07:12] <DaSkreech> there should be
[07:12] <Dodger73> feisty 32-bit
[07:12] <DaSkreech> can you check again
[07:12] <bryan> yeah
[07:12] <DaSkreech> places -> filesystem -> etc i think
[07:12] <Dodger73> everything works fine except 3d accel - i get the aforementioned dri error
[07:13] <bryan> yeah: places>computer>filesystem>etc
[07:13] <bryan> no fstab
[07:13] <Dodger73> and when i run with LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa, opengl apps run, but seemingly with software rendering and dog slow
[07:13] <hitmanWilly> bryan, find /etc -iname 'fstab' in a console
[07:13] <crdlb> Dodger73, ok pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log too
[07:13] <Dodger73> all of it or just the EE/WW?
[07:13] <hitmanWilly> bryan, see if it returns anything
[07:14] <bryan> ok let me check
[07:14] <Dodger73> crdlb: all of it, or just errors and warnings?
[07:14] <crdlb> Dodger73, the whole thing
[07:15] <Dodger73> crdlb: sec
[07:15] <bryan> bash: /etc: is a directory
[07:16] <bryan> to: HitmanWillly and DeScreetch, thats what i get?
[07:16] <Dodger73> crdlb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26224/
[07:16] <wolferine> what is the difference between sudo su - postgres and su - postgres
[07:17] <wolferine> does sudo su require my 'root' pass, where as the other requires my user 'postgres' pass?
[07:17] <bryan> sorry if Im doing somethting wrong in terminal, I copied pasted that code, and I got that bash
[07:17] <DaSkreech> wolferine: one will ask for a password one will ask for your password
[07:17] <wolferine> DaSkreech, you mean what I said?
[07:18] <DaSkreech> wolferine: yes what you said
[07:18] <bryan> bash: /etc: is a directory    also returned that
[07:18] <crdlb> DaSkreech, it might be related to: (II) fglrx(0): [drm]  Could not create dummy context but I really have no idea
[07:19] <hitmanWilly> bryan, ok, you probably left off the find cmd
[07:19] <bryan> haha, of course
[07:19] <DaSkreech> crdlb: Sorry?
[07:19] <crdlb> DaSkreech, pastebin the output of: LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo
[07:19] <bryan> can you post the code i should copy in? ill just copy.paste if thats cool
[07:19] <wolferine> no
[07:19] <Dodger73> DaSkreech: he means me i think  ;)
[07:20] <wolferine> !pastebin | bryan
[07:20] <ubotu> bryan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:20] <Dodger73> crdlb: sec
[07:20] <hitmanWilly> find /etc -iname 'fstab'
[07:20] <DaSkreech> Dodger73: I hope so :)
[07:20] <hitmanWilly> bryan, ^^
[07:20] <Dodger73> crdlb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26225/
[07:21] <hitmanWilly> bryan, all that does is search in /etc for files named fstab
[07:21] <bryan> ok
[07:21] <bryan> getting the 'no such file or directory'
[07:22] <crdlb> Dodger73, I've got no idea, did it happen even with the driver in feisty's repos? xorg-driver-fglrx?
[07:22] <Dodger73> yeah
[07:22] <hitmanWilly> bryan, cd /etc && ls | grep fstab
[07:22] <Dodger73> and then i tried every howto under the su
[07:22] <Dodger73> n
[07:22] <Dodger73> and envy
[07:22] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26222/
[07:22] <bryan> HitManWilly - aplogies: I got this :
[07:22] <bryan> find: /etc/ssl/private: Permission denied
[07:22] <bryan> /etc/fstab
[07:24] <bryan> cd /etc && ls | grep fstab
[07:24] <bryan> got that after the cd/etc && command
[07:24] <Dodger73> crdlb: well, thanks anyway :)
[07:24] <bryan> haha, am I transferring a headache to you too? sorry
[07:25] <hitmanWilly> bryan, ok, fstab is there....
[07:25] <bryan> oh, ok ? well good to know, just not visual
[07:25] <hitmanWilly> bryan, try sudo nano /etc/fstab
[07:26] <bryan> ok
[07:26] <hitmanWilly> bryan, does it come up with a blank file or is there text in it?
[07:26] <bryan> nope, theres text
[07:27] <bryan> i was going to paste it like before
[07:27] <hitmanWilly> bryan, please pastebin the contents of fstab if you would
[07:28] <bryan> ok no prob one sec
[07:29] <bryan> himanWilly>     http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26226/
[07:30] <frietz> #cakephp
[07:30] <se7en> is there a tool that can syncronize (only cp new files) between 2 hdd?
[07:31] <hitmanWilly> bryan, ok, so you want to mount the install DVD right? try mount /media/cdrom0
[07:31] <DaSkreech> hitmanWilly: You know this is the Mac DVD right?
[07:32] <bryan> yeah, Im trying to re-install OS X from my Tiger install DVD, is that what I should do?
[07:32] <bryan> I also have the Tiger install CD's
[07:32] <bryan> if thats a factor
[07:32] <hitmanWilly> bryan, oh, wait....hold on a sec...
[07:32] <bryan> haha ok no worries
[07:33] <bryan> I can use the CDs as well if thats the pron
[07:33] <bryan> prob*
[07:33] <hitmanWilly> bryan, ok, so are you trying to wipe out ubuntu and reinstall OSX?
[07:33] <hitmanWilly> bryan, or set up a dual boot?
[07:33] <bryan> I want to fresh install OS X for now, yeah, wipe out, only OS X on this
[07:34] <wolferine> is there a good "setup postgres" for *buntu?
[07:34] <hitmanWilly> bryan, ok, just scrolled up and read the initial prob again...
[07:34] <bryan> ok
[07:34] <Dodger73> crdlb: ok, so i uninstalled the proprietary driver and re-installed the ones from the repos
[07:34] <unclephreak> geez, how many people are in here and how many bots?
[07:34] <Dodger73> now i get mesa with glxinfo
[07:35] <bryan> yeah, basically, Im just trying to install OS X, fresh, on whole HD, no dual boot
[07:35] <hitmanWilly> bryan, i really don't know much about OSX, but this sounds like a problem with it...
[07:35] <bryan> yeah, this isnt good right now, worst possible timing
[07:35] <Dodger73> and a GLX error with fgl_glxgears
[07:35] <bryan> I mean, if I can even do a dual boot machine right now, thats acceptable
[07:36] <wolferine> !postgresql
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about postgresql - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <wolferine> !psql
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about psql - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <bryan> if thats my only resort
[07:36] <crdlb> Dodger73, sudo modprobe fglrx
[07:36] <hitmanWilly> bryan, i would say try with the cd's as it might be an issue with the dvd drive booting
[07:36] <Dodger73> crdlb: ah ok, wasn't loaded - restart the x server after that?
[07:36] <hitmanWilly> bryan, other than that, try in #apple or #osx or someplace like that
[07:36] <crdlb> Dodger73, yeah try that
[07:37] <Dodger73> thx :)
[07:37] <bryan> i did, the CDs have the same problem, wont boot, and when I insert the CD or DVD in Ubuntu, I get that "cannot mount volume error"
[07:37] <bryan> oh ok
[07:37] <bryan> so, well, not to sound pushy, but,  is that as far as we can go here?
[07:37] <hitmanWilly> bryan, that really sounds like an osx error, not an ubuntu one...sorry
[07:38] <hitmanWilly> bryan, that's about as far as i know...zero experience with macs
[07:38] <bryan> ok cool
[07:38] <Dodger73> crdlb: ok.. same thing. fglrx kernel module is now loaded - still mesa and the glx error with fgl_glxgears
[07:38] <bryan> well, honestly, I REALLY appreciate the help!
[07:38] <bryan> ill see what I can find out
[07:38] <crdlb> Dodger73, ok pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log again
[07:38] <bryan> i dont care if I have to dual boot, thats ok too
[07:39] <DaSkreech> bryan: try ##apple
[07:39] <bryan> ok
[07:40] <Dodger73> crdlb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26227/
[07:40] <wolferine> is there a good "setup postgres" for *buntu?
[07:41] <crdlb> Dodger73, (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.
[07:41] <Dodger73> well darn
[07:41] <root> hell-o
[07:41] <crdlb> somehow the intaller's fglrx kernel module didn't get removed
[07:42] <Dodger73> but i've got linux-restricted-modules and xorg-driver-fglrx from the repositories installed
[07:42] <Dodger73> shouldn't that be the two packages i need?
[07:42] <crdlb> yes
[07:42] <crdlb> Dodger73, what's in your /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common ?
[07:42] <Dodger73> crdlb: DISABLED_MODULES=""
[07:42] <Dodger73> just checked that.. first thing i thought ;)
[07:42] <talon223> what's the easiest way to de-clutter kde...i'm coming from gnome and possibly going back because there's just..too much stuff...i've even opted to not show my gnome apps and it's still too much...
[07:43] <talon223> any scripts that clean it up or what?
[07:44] <crdlb> Dodger73, well what if you: sudo modprobe -r fglrx && sudo lrm-manager && sudo modprobe fglrx ?
[07:45] <Dodger73> went through without an error - i should probably restart x again to see any effect?
[07:45] <crdlb> yeah and if that doesn't work, you may want to try to find the installer's fglrx module
[07:45] <crdlb> and remove it
[07:46] <Dodger73> ok
[07:46] <Dodger73> thanks a lot - i appreciate the help!
[07:46] <Dodger73> brb :)
[07:51] <Ryiel> !chroot
[07:51] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[07:52] <Daisuke-Ido> ah, fun with cron jobs
[07:52] <Ryiel> not what i was looking for... :(
[07:57] <Ryiel> guys i wanna chroot into another linux, how to mount it? I don't remember... mount -o ? or what?
[07:57] <hitmanWilly> Ryiel, is it on the same drive?
[07:58] <Ryiel> yep, same drive. I remember mounting /proc and /dev but thats all i can remember :)
[07:59] <hitmanWilly> Ryiel, or to put it another way, mount the other install and chroot <mountpoint>
[07:59] <Ryiel> just chroot it? No need to mount /proc and /dev?
[07:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[08:00] <hitmanWilly> Ryiel, i don't believe so
[08:00] <DaSkreech> everyone isn't here right now would you like to leave a message?
[08:00] <MilhousePunkRock> I am trying to connect my Laptop to my brand new shiny NSLU2, which is going to be "unslung" to a nice little debian server today
[08:01] <Ryiel> thanks hitmanWilly
[08:01] <hitmanWilly> np
[08:01] <MilhousePunkRock> It's hooked up with a crossover cable, I wonder why it would not let me connect to the web interface, or even ping it
[08:01] <hitmanWilly> Ryiel, or if you're really worried about chroot then mount -a
[08:02] <hitmanWilly> Ryiel, if the other install is set up properly, it should then mount everything in it's fstab
[08:02] <MilhousePunkRock> DaSkreech: ;)
[08:02] <hitmanWilly> Ryiel, including proc and dev
[08:03] <Ryiel> hitmanWilly: its not properly installed atm i just wanted to work on it :)
[08:03] <hitmanWilly> Ryiel, ok :)
[08:04] <Ryiel> mount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc && mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev <-- A friend just told me this but it does not work... :(
[08:05] <hitmanWilly> Ryiel, lemme guess, mount point not empty or some such thing, right?
[08:07] <hitmanWilly> ok, later all
[08:12] <lordofthepigs> Hello!
[08:12] <lordofthepigs> I'm trying to compile kdesvn on my Kubuntu feisty
[08:13] <lordofthepigs> but it complains that it cannot find the KDE3_INCLUDE_DIR environment variable
[08:13] <lordofthepigs> I'm obviously missing some header package, but I can't find which one
[08:13] <Daisuke-Ido> uh
[08:13] <Daisuke-Ido> why?
[08:13] <lordofthepigs> does anybody know which one that could be?
[08:13] <Daisuke-Ido> why are you even compiling it?
[08:14] <lordofthepigs> Because the version in the repositories is outdated.
[08:14] <DaSkreech> !info kdesvn
[08:14] <ubotu> kdesvn: subversion client with tight KDE integration. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.0-1 (feisty), package size 1517 kB, installed size 3608 kB
[08:14] <Daisuke-Ido> does it still work?
[08:14] <Daisuke-Ido> does the new version have some "must have" feature?
[08:14] <Daisuke-Ido> just asking the common sense questions here
[08:14] <Daisuke-Ido> because...
[08:14] <lordofthepigs> Honestly, I dunno... :)
[08:14] <Daisuke-Ido> !worksforme | lordofthepigs
[08:14] <ubotu> lordofthepigs: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:14] <DaSkreech> lordofthepigs: try the one in the repos :)
[08:14] <lordofthepigs> Yeah, I know
[08:15] <lordofthepigs> but still, I'd like to try compiling it properly
[08:15] <lordofthepigs> I found kde-devel
[08:15] <lordofthepigs> but the description doesn't say wether it includes the headers or not
[08:15] <Daisuke-Ido> kde-devel is the headers
[08:16] <steve> hello
[08:17] <lordofthepigs> Bah, and in case I can't get it to compile and work properly, I'll use the version in the repository
[08:18] <steve> can someone help me figure out why my WINE program isnt working properly
[08:24] <julius> steve: possibly
[08:25] <julius> steve: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[08:44] <kraut> moin
[09:02] <paolo>  Hi. how can i see the network traffic in a form similar to ethereal?
[09:09] <yknott> steve: which is that?
[09:34] <paolo> A simple question: if I change networks settings with the graphical utility, after changing them i have to click the "apply" button. what if I do the same with ifconfig? i write:  1) ifconfig eth0 down 2) ifconfig ....new configuration for eth0... 3) what?
[09:35] <paolo> A simple question: if I change networks settings with the graphical utility, after changing them i have to click the "apply" button. what if I do the same with ifconfig? i write:  1) ifconfig eth0 down 2) ifconfig ....new configuration for eth0... 3) what?
[09:35] <Luke> hi, I have a Dell INSPIRON 9300 and the Touchpad is being really nasty, how can I fix it?
[09:36] <waylandbill> paolo: the ifconfig should simply take effect if the card supports changing on the fly.
[09:37] <paolo> waylandbill: i see. so, what should I do in order to assure that config files are wrote after ifconfig, without rebooting?
[09:37] <Luke> Hello???
[09:38] <Luke> does anyone know how to congigure a Touchpad in Feisty on a Dell?
[09:39] <Evil_DuDe> Luke: my friend says that there are drivers for Touchpad in repos
[09:39] <Evil_DuDe> don't know anything else
[09:41] <Luke> the drivers and stuff work, but it left click when you tap it twice
[09:42] <Luke> I used qsynaptics to configure it but when I restart it just goes back to default
[09:43] <waylandbill> paolo: doing an ifconfig command modifies the config files and then makes the card apply the new settings in one step.
[09:44] <paolo> waylandbill: should i do ifconfig eth0 down/up  before/after changing the configuration?
[09:44] <rathel__> I got a question it's not linux related, but does anyone know of a good Headphone review site or something? I need new ones and don't know what to get.
[09:45] <Lynoure> rathel__: headfi rules, but yeah, that question was better suited for #ubuntu-offtopic than here
[09:47] <noonker__> Hey guys can you help me, i got a problem with kubuntu on my other computer
[09:47] <rathel__> OoO there's an off topic channel, sorry about that.
[09:47] <noonker__> How do you restore the xorg.conf
[09:50] <MilhousePunkRock> noonker__: IIRC that's "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" or similar
[09:54] <paolo> another question: is there a "dhcp" option in ifconfig? or should i use something else?
[09:55] <MilhousePunkRock> paolo: Do you have a DHCP server on your network? That could be your router, for instance...
[09:55] <paolo> MilhousePunkRock: of course i have it
[09:55] <Lynoure> paolo: you can put dhcp into /etc/interfaces , at least
[09:56] <paolo> but i would use a shell command
[09:56] <Lynoure> paolo: see   man ifconfig  for the options it support
[09:56] <paolo> Lynoure: already done
[09:57] <MilhousePunkRock> paolo: If you are unsure, just use KNetworkManager, the settings from there go straight to you /etc/network/interfaces
[09:57] <paolo> MilhousePunkRock: no. i don't want to use guis
[09:58] <MilhousePunkRock> paolo: Nice... So it's "sudo vim /etc/network/interfaces"
[09:58] <Lynoure> paolo: you could pastebin the interfaces and ifconfig for further help.
[09:59] <paolo> ok, someone suggested me dhclient
[09:59] <paolo> let's try
[10:01] <Lynoure> paolo: you pretty much need to have dhclient  for dhcp to work :) And trying with it manually does not hurt either
[10:02] <MilhousePunkRock> I am pretty sure Kubuntu comes with a pretty extensive default /etc/network/interfaces, huh? Gentoo has one with _all_ possible options and explanations
[10:02] <MilhousePunkRock> paolo: If it's just a SOHO network, I'd go for static IP settings though, as a side effect it will make your system boot a split second faster, because it does not have to wait for the DHCP lease
[10:03] <waylandbill> MilhousePunkRock: it
[10:03] <waylandbill> 's not that much of a difference
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> waylandbill: I said "split second". My router is pretty stupid with his DHCP server, might give different IPs to the same machine on the next boot, so some services won't work, that's why I turned it off
[10:04] <waylandbill> the advantage especially for wifi is that you can just enter the key on a laptop and go without needing to manually config everytime a new pc is introduced.
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Newer routers might have a option to assign the same IPs based on the client's MAC address though.
[10:05] <MilhousePunkRock> Technically mine has that option too, but my ISP was so kind to cripple the firmware totally and throw that option out...
[10:05] <waylandbill> MilhousePunkRock: I've never seen a router that doesn't have leases based on the MAC. The lease expiration time is probably set to low on that one.
[10:07] <MilhousePunkRock> waylandbill: And flashing the manufacturer's firmware back would involve soldering a serial port onto the board. Since I have never even seen a soldering gun from close, I'd rather not...
[10:07] <waylandbill> sounds like a perfect candidate for zeroconf service.
[10:08] <MilhousePunkRock> On the other hand, I am just installing debian on my brand new shiny NSLU2, I could run a DHCP server there. But there really is no need for DHCP on a "network" with 3 and a half computers
[10:08] <sivaji> !grub
[10:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:10] <MilhousePunkRock> waylandbill: I haven't looked into zeroconf yet, but I might...
[10:15] <venca> hello :o) I have some problem with ubuntu ... when i try to play some divx movie it is not played fluently ... is there sb who could give me some advice? Im using Ubuntu 7.04
[10:17] <dwidmann> venca: not played fluently? you mean it skips frames or something?
[10:18] <venca> dwidmann ... yes. Something like this :)
[10:18] <dwidmann> venca: umm, it's being played from a disk right? Perhaps DMA is not turned on for the drive. Try running "sudo hdparm -d /dev/hd?" and see what it says
[10:19] <sivaji> venca  have u installed codecs
[10:19] <dwidmann> venca: plan b: it's not being run from a disk, perhaps cpu usage is at max
[10:20] <sivaji> venca "http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-must-do-things-on-new-ubuntu-704.html"
[10:21] <venca> dwidmann .. in fact it doesnt metter wheter i play it from disk. The problem is the same. I thought that the problem could be in codecs but at the beginning it was ok.
[10:23] <paolo>  another question: how can i save the new network configuration (done with ifconfig)?
[10:23] <venca> sivaji ive tried to install w32codecs but nothing was installed. Probably i already have all needed codecs.
[10:26] <sivaji> venca what is the extension of that vedia file .wmv , mpeg
[10:26] <venca> sivaji usually avi
[10:28] <sivaji> venca type avi and press tab in terminal u will see packages associated with that
[10:29] <venca> sivaji hmm... nothing happend
[10:29] <sivaji> venca  apt-cache search avi | grep -i avi
[10:30] <venca> sivaji there are 4 packages asociated with avi
[10:31] <sivaji> venca check have u installed that
[10:31] <arun> why wont picasa show me full screen images in slideshow mode?
[10:32] <sivaji> arun u r from
[10:33] <sivaji> india right
[10:33] <paolo> ok thnks for your support
[10:33] <sivaji> arun :
[10:34] <paolo>  and how can i set a gateway for eth0 ?
[10:36] <venca> sivaji it seems it is working :) Thanks very much ... Ive installed avifile-divx-plugin and avifile-xvid-plugin
[10:36] <sivaji> paolo  kmenu->system settings->network setting
[10:36] <sivaji> venca fine
[10:36] <paolo> sivaji: not with a gui
[10:37] <sivaji> sorry try #ubuntu
[10:38] <dandy_> can we install manually the updates of ubuntu
[10:38] <Gerrit> !acrobat
[10:38] <Gerrit> !plugin
[10:39] <Gerrit> hm.
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acrobat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <sivaji_> dandy_ "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[10:39] <crdlb> !medibuntu | Gerrit
[10:39] <ubotu> Gerrit: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[10:40] <Gerrit> Thanks
[10:41] <arun> why wont picasa show me full screen images in slideshow mode?
[10:56] <xlinux_> hello?
[10:59] <xlinux_> hello?
[11:00] <hw1> hoi
[11:00] <xlinux_> got a weird one
[11:00] <xlinux_> amarok crashes offline, and nothing I do changes it
[11:00] <sivaji_> !hi | xlinux_
[11:00] <ubotu> xlinux_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:02] <sivaji_> xlinux_  "sudo apt-get remove --purge amarok" then "sudo apt-get install amarok"
[11:02] <xlinux_> lemme try that one
[11:03] <xlinux_> lemme go offline a sec and try it
[11:03] <sivaji_> ok
[11:06] <xlinux_> holy crap!
[11:07] <xlinux_> im having the same problem with kaffeine, so I guess I should try the same
[11:07] <xlinux_> one other offline weirdo... mpeg thumbnails dont load with konqueror
[11:08] <xlinux_> thats weird, because I already tried renaming the config files for amarok
[11:08] <xlinux_> so that it would make a new folder..
[11:12] <Gerrit> Hello, when I run kdvi, I get a warning on the commandline: "QApplication::notify: Unexpected null receiver". How can I solve this?
[11:14] <xlinux_> what is kdvi?
[11:14] <Gerrit> I mean on the konsole.
[11:14] <Gerrit> IT is a dvi viewer.
[11:14] <Gerrit> For KDE.
[11:14] <xlinux_> dvi? whats that? pardon my ignorance to it
[11:14] <Gerrit> device independent file
[11:15] <xlinux_> cant help you sorry.. you try the forum?
[11:20] <sivaji_> Gerrit have u tried #ubuntu
[11:23] <Gerrit> Not yet.
[11:26] <xlinux_> nope.. still doesnt work....
[11:26] <xlinux_> amarok still crashes when im offline
[11:26] <Rami_> hi!
[11:27] <tmbg> windows is a greedy little whore. I installed it on its own disk, and it mucked around with mbr on another disk and overwrote lilo.
[11:27] <sivaji> xlinux_ run amarok from terminal
[11:27] <xlinux_> KAccel object already contains an action name "play_pause"
[11:27] <sivaji> xlinux_ paste here what error u get
[11:27] <xlinux_> thats when I start it
[11:27] <Rami_> tmbg, you're right
[11:27] <xlinux_> it doesnt give an error when it closes
[11:28] <xlinux_> and amarok itself is fine offline, but it crashes when I try to play a song
[11:28] <xlinux_> note this:
[11:28] <tmbg> I tried to use gag to boot my now hidden linux install... but it couldn't boot that partition.
[11:28] <sivaji> tmbg yes windows only its own job that is it  never loads other os
[11:28] <sivaji> tmbg yes windows  *minds * only its own job that is it  never loads other os
[11:28] <Rami_> format the partition with wndows instead
[11:28] <xlinux_> kaffeine wont play ANYTHING offline, and konqueror wont load any mpeg thumbnails offline...
[11:29] <xlinux_> as soon as im online, everything is resolved
[11:29] <tmbg> formatting the windows disk wouldn't accomplish anything
[11:29] <Rami_> :o
[11:31] <xlinux_> considering I get the crash when trying to play a song.. and the message in the terminal relates to play pause.. I would assume this was the problem
[11:31] <sivaji> tmbg u r system cant load linux now right
[11:31] <tmbg> sivaji, right
[11:32] <Rami_> I need to install shockwave for mozilla, how  to do?
[11:32] <sivaji>  tmbg  i will give u a link that contain boot file copy that to cd ,which allows u to boot linux and windows
[11:32] <[ifroog] > !shockwave
[11:32] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[11:32] <tmbg> sivaji, fire away
[11:33] <Rami_> ok
[11:33] <xlinux_> is there any way to check for possible missing dependencies or something? Ive had this problem for over a week.. im about to remove the whole OS and reinstall it
[11:34] <Rami_> but doesnt that make my computer open to viruses?
[11:34] <sivaji> tmbg "http://sgd.howto-linux.de/download/binaries/sgd_plus_distros/sgd_gparted_system_rescue_001.iso" burn this image to a cd and boot from that
[11:34] <sivaji> tmbg second life to linux
[11:35] <tmbg> why is it so huge?
[11:35] <sivaji> xlinux_ have u opened amarok from terminal
[11:35] <xlinux_> yes, and as posted earlier:
[11:36] <sivaji> tmbg because it contail grub loader  qtparted live cd etc
[11:36] <xlinux_> kdecore (KAction): WARNING: KAction::insertKAccel( kaccel = 0x8098cb8 ): KAccel object already contains an action name "play_pause"
[11:36] <xlinux_> but it works fine with an internet connection
[11:36] <tmbg> I thought I'd be safe since I installed windows on its OWN disk. can't believe it messes around with mbr's on different disks. that's messed up
[11:38] <sivaji> tmbg u cant boot kubuntu then how u came here
[11:39] <tmbg> sivaji, huh?
[11:39] <tmbg> I'm in windows right now
[11:39] <tmbg> since the stupid windows mbr bootloader nonsense works
[11:40] <sivaji> tmbg tell which software u r using to chat here
[11:40] <angel> hi
[11:40] <sivaji> !hi | angel
[11:40] <ubotu> angel: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:41] <tmbg> sivaji, why does it matter?
[11:41] <angel> i am testing konversation
[11:41] <angel> s:)
[11:41] <sivaji> ok
[11:41] <sivaji> tmbg u have konversation in windows ?
[11:42] <tmbg> nope
[11:42] <sivaji> tmbg then what make u to chat here
[11:43] <tmbg> to figure out wtf was going on w/ lilo/mbr/etc nonsense
[11:43] <sivaji> tmbg ho cant u understand what i am aking
[11:44] <tmbg> wtf is your problem?
[11:44] <tmbg> no, I can't understand.
[11:44] <tmbg> for one, it's barely in english
[11:45] <angel> anyone know how_to connect to jabber sever with kopete?
[11:45] <sivaji> u have konversaion in kubuntu right similarly what software u have in windows for chatting here?
[11:45] <tmbg> for another, you're asking all sorts of questions about how I do things that don't matter for this conversation
[11:45] <Jucato> angel: google talk?
[11:45] <angel> data:x client is required
[11:45] <tmbg> sivaji, there are tons of windows irc clients. I picked one I like
[11:45] <angel> nop: konversation
[11:46] <angel> can u connect to this chat with google talk? nice
[11:46] <Jucato> angel: in Kopete, yes
[11:47] <sivaji>    tmbg    ya i too installed one irc client but it is not like konverstaion so which one u have selected  now
[11:47] <tmbg> why does it matter?
[11:48] <sivaji> !ext2
[11:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <sivaji> !ext
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ext - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:51] <sivaji> !ext3
[11:51] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[11:53] <angel> JABBER IN KOPETE:msg error when i tried server services: "You need an x:data capable client to****"
[11:53] <angel> where **** is register, search, etc...
[11:54] <angel> does anyone know what kind of client is an x:data capable??
[11:55] <angel> er....
[11:55] <angel> sthx anyway
[11:56] <xlinux_> so no idea sivaji?
[11:57] <AFaith> hello my fellow mates from #kubuntu!
[11:57] <AFaith> have a question for you
[11:57] <sivaji> xlinux_ no idea
[11:57] <AFaith> kopete keeps it logs in ~/.kde/share/apps/kopete/logs/YahooProtocol/name
[11:57] <AFaith> but it keeps them in xml format
[11:58] <AFaith> i wanna know if there is any log parser that can help me read those logs easily
[11:58] <xlinux_> i might seriously have to reinstall my OS.. daaammn that sucks
[11:59] <_4strO> AFaith: kopette himself ?
[11:59] <AFaith> _4strO: how ?
[12:00] <_4strO> in the edition menu
[12:00] <_4strO> see historic
[12:01] <_4strO> AFaith: it's about conversation's log ?
[12:01] <AFaith> yes, of course
[12:02] <sivaji> xlinux_ no wait
[12:02] <AFaith> i can find that button
[12:02] <AFaith> :(
[12:02] <Jucato> AFaith: right-click on the contact -> View History
[12:02] <xlinux_> what else can we try? Ive got a virtual OS and a ton of customizing done to this install
[12:03] <sivaji> xlinux_ install this "amarok  amarokcollectionscanner  amarok_libvisual amarokapp amarok_daapserver.rb amarok_proxy.rb"
[12:04] <sivaji> xlinux_ use aptitude
[12:04] <sivaji> xlinux_ are u there
[12:04] <xlinux_> sivaji: yeah
[12:05] <AFaith> sorry ...
[12:05] <xlinux_> let me try to install those libraries to make sure I have um all
[12:05] <AFaith> kopete crashed
[12:05] <mentoirde> !german
[12:05] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:05] <sivaji> AFaith press ctrl+esc ,kill kopete and restart
[12:06] <sivaji> xlinux_ is it alright now
[12:07] <xlinux_> its saying it cant find any of the packages you mentioned
[12:07] <AFaith> sivaji: i've restarted kopete :) now, i'm trying to see if it let see the logs
[12:07] <xlinux_> is there some special link to add to sources.list? I already have medibuntu added as a repo
[12:09] <sivaji> xlinux_ try this "  exaile amarok-engines  amarok-xine"
[12:09] <sivaji> install this
[12:09] <AFaith> big thanks!
[12:09] <AFaith> i've really helped me :P
[12:10] <xlinux_> hmmm didnt have some of those.. im gonna try offline after I restart X
[12:11] <xlinux_> E: Failed to fetch http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/pool/free/a/amarok/amarok-engines_1.4.5-0ubuntu7+medibuntu1_i386.deb: 404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[12:11] <xlinux_> thats the only error
[12:11] <xlinux_> try it anyway?
[12:12] <pag> xlinux_, wrong adress. I'll paste you the right one in a bit
[12:12] <pag> !paste
[12:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:12] <xlinux_> gonna try it.. post it when im back in a sec
[12:13] <pag> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26239/
[12:14] <xlinux_> nope... didnt work
[12:14] <pag> xlinux_, here's the right adress: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26239/
[12:15] <thyko> is it possible to upgrade my kubuntu install from 6.06 to 7.04?
[12:15] <sivaji> ya
[12:15] <_4strO> !upgrade
[12:15] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[12:16] <sivaji> thyko edit u r sources.list
[12:17] <sivaji> thyko u cant directly upgrade from 6.06 to 7.04
[12:17] <sivaji> first upgrade to 6.10
[12:19] <thyko> thanks yall, giving that a try ....
[12:22] <Assid> why cant you upgrade form 6.06 straight to 7.04 ?
[12:24] <bryan_> Hey everyone, Hope its cool to ask: I have Ubuntu installed on Macbook, & need OSX back asap, but, comp wont boot from install DVD or CD??
[12:24] <alex> hallo
[12:24] <alex> knnte mir einer helfen ?
[12:25] <alex> E: Konnte Lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock nicht bekommen - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:25] <alex> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:25] <pag> !de | alex
[12:25] <ubotu> alex: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:25] <alex> thx
[12:28] <Assid> bryan_: wouldnt you be better off calling macintosh?
[12:28] <Assid> or apple for that matter
[12:28] <Assid> there should be a guide to reinstall it i'd think
[12:31] <bryan_> Assid> True, I was just hoping to avoid the phone support, thought I might get lucky tapping in here
[12:32] <Assid> have you tried googling?
[12:32] <bryan_> its an odd problem, Apple install disc wont boot, and when inserted in Ubuntu, I get a "cannot mount volume" error, like Linux isnt recognizing the drive or something
[12:32] <bryan_> yeah, been googling my ass off haha, havent found anything useful
[12:32] <Assid> hrmm
[12:33] <Assid> is there an option to set the boot priority ?
[12:33] <Assid> like dvdrom, hard drive
[12:33] <bryan_> in Ubuntu you mean?
[12:33] <bryan_> if so, Im not sure
[12:38] <Gerrit> !xmodmap
[12:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmodmap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <Gerrit> Where can I find the post-login file to put xmodmap commands that I want to be carried out everytime I login via kdm?
[12:44] <bjwebb> ctrl + esc does not show anything
[12:44] <bjwebb> http://two.xthost.info/linux/snapshot1.png
[12:44] <bjwebb> any pointers?
[12:55] <PsySine> how can I stop kde from overriding my x-configuration?
[12:58] <CM_Jamie> Can one do a last seen command on this channel?
[12:59] <Assid> man.. installing kubuntu on my lappy is heating it up.. like crazy
[12:59] <Assid> almost like a steam iron
[01:00] <Assid> err. how come the fonts look a little odd ?
[01:00] <Assid> i got the desktop disc (live cd)
[01:01] <Assid> the fonts look a litle "scratched"
[01:02] <Assid> atleast some of the fonts do
[01:10] <hasan2> hi all
[01:11] <hasan2> there is problem in my system sound card
[01:11] <hasan2> i have installed kubuntu o.s
[01:11] <hasan2> anybody can help with this
[01:13] <hasan2> ello
[01:17] <Assid> err whats the root password?
[01:17] <Assid> the default root pass
[01:17] <PsySine> Assid: there is none
[01:17] <PsySine> Assid: use sudo and sudo -s
[01:18] <PsySine> and supply the users passwd
[01:21] <Assid> the fonts look kinda odd
[01:22] <Assid> almost like its not installed..
[01:22] <vista> how do i save chat conversations on kopote ?
[01:23] <vista> how do i save chat logs on kopete ?
[01:23] <vista> anyone here?
[01:24] <vista> how do i disable single click
[01:24] <vista> how do i save chat logs on kopete ?
[01:25] <MaTiAz> vista: K Menu -> System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse -> "Double click to open files and folders"
[01:25] <MaTiAz> That's how you disable single click
[01:25] <vista> ya thanks
[01:25] <MaTiAz> np
[01:25] <vista> and how do i save chat logs for kopete
[01:25] <MaTiAz> Dunno about that
[01:25] <vista> k
[01:26] <Assid> can someone help me with the fonts.../
[01:26] <Assid> some of the fonts look very bad
[01:26] <vista> i keep on deleting a file but this file still keeps poping up on my desktop is this a VIRUS ?
[01:26] <vista> LINUX VIRUS ?
[01:27] <pawitp> What file?
[01:27] <vista> a folder
[01:27] <pawitp> is it a special one?
[01:27] <vista> and empty folder
[01:27] <vista> a folder that has another empty folder
[01:28] <vista> subfolder is called examples
[01:28] <vista> main folder called LIQUID-BLACK
[01:28] <vista> its on my desktop
[01:28] <pawitp> try deleting the subfolder
[01:28] <vista> let me try
[01:28] <vista> its deleted !
[01:29] <vista> but not sure whether it will come up again :s
[01:29] <vista> pawitp: how do i save chat logs on kopete?
[01:29] <vista> pawitp: omg ! that folder came back
[01:30] <pawitp> ~/.kde/share/apps/konversation/logs
[01:30] <vista> is it a VIRUS ?
[01:30] <pawitp> the logs are usually in there
[01:30] <pawitp> vista: Probably not
[01:30] <vista> then ?
[01:30] <pawitp> Did you try using the terminal?
[01:30] <vista> nope
[01:31] <vista> how do i do that
[01:31] <pawitp> open konsole
[01:31] <vista> then
[01:31] <pawitp> type "cd Desktop"
[01:31] <pawitp> and then "rm -rf [name of folder] "
[01:32] <Assid> okay the fonts are looking horrible.. what do i do
[01:32] <vista> thanks its gone but dont know for how long
[01:33] <Assid> i tried enabling anti aliasing
[01:33] <Assid> dont think it helped
[01:33] <vista> pawitp: i only found konversation chat logs not kopete chat logs
[01:33] <pawitp> whoop
[01:34] <pawitp> I thought you said konversation
[01:34] <vista> nope its kopete
[01:34] <vista> pawitp: that folder came back ? ?
[01:34] <vista> should i panic
[01:35] <pawitp> Never had something like folders coming back
[01:35] <pawitp> is a program accessing it?
[01:35] <pawitp> or a program is trying to write to it?
[01:35] <pawitp> like a torrent?
[01:35] <vista> well the folder is empty
[01:35] <vista> im not sure
[01:35] <pawitp> Basically, how did you create that folder?
[01:36] <vista> i found it from kde-look.org
[01:36] <vista> its suppose to be a kbfx theme
[01:36] <vista> i thinks now its gone forever
[01:37] <vista> change a few permission matters
[01:37] <vista> anyways tell me where to get kopete chat logs ?
[01:38] <vista> OMG OMG OMG
[01:38] <vista> folder came back
[01:38] <pawitp> Try rebooting maybe
[01:38] <vista> okay
[01:38] <a9913> vista, .kde/share/apps/kopete/logs/
[01:38] <vista> pawitp: kopete chat logs ?
[01:38] <pawitp> see a9913
[01:39] <tripp> anyone can give me an IRC for italian kubuntu channel?
[01:39] <vista> a9912: there are no folder names logs
[01:39] <pawitp> !it
[01:39] <vista> a9912: how do i enable chat logs from kopete ?
[01:39] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:40] <pawitp> !it | tripp
[01:40] <ubotu> tripp: please see above
[01:40] <tripp> !it
[01:40] <a9913> vista, THREE! 991_3_
[01:40] <vista> a9912: whats that?
[01:40] <vista> !bn
[01:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:41] <vista> FOLDER CAME BACK
[01:41] <vista> a9912: how di enable chat logs for kopete
[01:41] <pawitp> vista: Try seeking help from someone else
[01:41] <vista> a9913: how di enable chat logs for kopete
[01:41] <a9913> i get a feeling you're doing that on purpose...
[01:42] <vista> im doing what on purpose?
[01:42] <a9913> vista, enable the history plugin
[01:42] <vista> wait
[01:42] <vista> let me try
[01:43] <vista> a9913: its already enabled
[01:43] <llutz> Hi
[01:43] <a9913> vista, check in .kde/share/apps/kopete
[01:44] <vista> a9913: thanks
[01:44] <vista> think i have it done
[01:45] <Ayabara> I have a problem with dual monitors in kubuntu. Anyone know how to control which monitor has focus? It doesn't follow the mouse pointer on my system.
[01:45] <a9913> vista, where was it?
[01:45] <vista> a9913: where is what ?
[01:45] <a9913> vista, if it wasn't in .kde/share/apps/kopete/logs/ , where was it?
[01:46] <vista> a9913: that folder wasnt there in the first place but later came up when i eneabled chat log
[01:46] <a9913> oh
[01:46] <vista> a9913: why cant ppl on windows live see my kopete emoticons ?
[01:47] <a9913> vista, because emoticons are sent as texts
[01:47] <vista> a9913: so how do i get it to them ?
[01:47] <a9913> vista, if i send :), the client converts it into an image
[01:47] <a9913> vista, you cant.
[01:47] <a9913> vista, try using only the ones defined by windows live
[01:48] <vista> a9913: oh :(
[01:48] <fusiogen> !fr
[01:48] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:48] <fusiogen> allez
[01:48] <fusiogen> fuck dows/vista :)
[01:48] <PriceChild> !ohmy | fusiogen
[01:48] <ubotu> fusiogen: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:48] <vista> but i found a nice pack of emoticons but they are now useless:(
[01:49] <vista> is there a bangladeshi kubuntu channel
[01:49] <a9913> vista, you can create one if it aint
[01:49] <a9913> i think
[01:49] <vista> nah if its not there then no use creating it
[01:50] <vista> but i just cant delete this folder
[01:50] <vista> it just keeps poping up
[01:50] <vista> i suspect its a virus ;)
[01:50] <gMs> huh?
[01:50] <vista> just cant get rid of this folder
[01:51] <[n1ce] MiLk> btw hi
[01:51] <vista> hi
[01:51] <a9913> vista, try checking if anything is using the folder
[01:51] <a9913> if so, what
[01:51] <[n1ce] MiLk> does anyone use gdesklets and beryl?
[01:52] <vista> a9913: how do i check that
[01:52] <a9913> vista, there's a program which checks what pids are using a file
[01:52] <a9913> forgot it's name
[01:52] <Cyrano> hi guys
[01:52] <Assid> can someone help me please
[01:52] <[n1ce] MiLk> ah sry its a kubuntu channel
[01:52] <[n1ce] MiLk> sry
[01:52] <Assid> my fonts are looking pretty bad
[01:52] <Cyrano> i ve got an unrelated question
[01:53] <Cyrano> im not a native speaker of english
[01:53] <vista> i c
[01:53] <Cyrano> what does "what goes around comes around" mean ?
[01:53] <vista> im also not a native english speaker
[01:53] <epimeth> Cyrano: it means that whatever you do to someone will happen to you
[01:54] <Cyrano> ok thx
[01:54] <vista> Cyrano : where you from ?
[01:55] <Cyrano> Turkey
[01:55] <vista> okay
[01:55] <Cyrano> im reading a broadband communication handbook right now
[01:55] <Cyrano> it's written in it
[01:55] <vista> any one help me get rid of this screenshot option?
[01:56] <vista> whenever i press print screen button screenshot pops up
[01:56] <vista> how do i get rid of it
[01:57] <nosrednaekim> vista: that itsmost definately a feature...but it should be under system settings-> keybpard and mouse-> keyboard shortcuts
[01:57] <vista> thanks let me try
[01:59] <Assid> also
[01:59] <Assid> i trie to change the screen refresh rate.. from 60 .. but everytme i set the administrator mode
[01:59] <Assid> its giving me an eror for su
[02:00] <jeroen__> Hi
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> hello
[02:01] <jeroen__> I've got a problem here
[02:01] <jeroen__> I just did a tar for sauerbraten
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> ok.
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> jeroen__: you can get the .deb at www.getdeb.com
[02:01] <hasan2> ello
[02:01] <jeroen__> I tryed to open it but it didn't started, i just had to log in again on my kubutu
[02:02] <hasan2> anybody can help on installing driver for sound card on kubuntu
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: what sound card do you have?
[02:03] <nosrednaekim> jeroen__: install the .deb from www.getdeb.net
[02:04] <jeroen__> nosrednaekim: Ok I'll try that
[02:06] <hasan2> not sure how to check
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> jeroen__: http://www.getdeb.net/app.php?name=Sauerbraten
[02:06] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : how to check the sound card type ?
[02:07] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: so your sound is just not working? did you raise all volumes in Kmix and unmute all channels?
[02:07] <jeroen__> nosrednaekim: I used that one.
[02:07] <hasan2> yes
[02:07] <jeroen__> nosrednaekim: I just have a black screen and then my computer logs in again
[02:07] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : even i got to test sound and not sound there
[02:07] <administrador> Hi everyone!
[02:07] <Assid> err
[02:08] <administrador> using linux for the first time :)
[02:08] <Assid> is there anty way i can push the refresh rates? 60hz is very very bad
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> jeroen__: I had that problem too... its not the most stabe thing on planet earth
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> administrador: cool!
[02:08] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : when i play any song, its playing but no sound comming
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: did you mess around with the volumes in kmix?
[02:09] <administrador> spent a hole morning trying to network a Kubuntu PC and a Mac with OS X
[02:09] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : yes
[02:09] <jeroen__> nosrednaekim: any way to fix it?
[02:09] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : how to check the sound card driver is installed properly or not
[02:09] <administrador> anyone can help? I've searched the forums but nothing seems to help me
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> administrador: sure, what are you trying to do?
[02:10] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: run " sudo lshw | grep sound" and pastebin the output
[02:10] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : ok
[02:11] <administrador> I have a PC with a one disk. one partition for system other for "works"
[02:11] <administrador>  I want to share "works" with all my mac's running OS X
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> ok, via NFS shares?
[02:12] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : no output
[02:12] <jeroen__> nosrednaekim: I downloaded it again, tar't it again still the same problem
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> I'm not exctly familiar with mac's... do they have a ssh client?
[02:12] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : lshw | grep sound  no out put
[02:13] <administrador> I've tried samba shares
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: ok, run "sudo lshw | grep audio"
[02:13] <administrador> the mac's can see the shares but than it gives me an error
[02:13] <hasan2> nosrednaekim ; ok
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> administrador: samba is intended for windows to linux, macs have it easier I think.
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> administrador: do macs have ssh clients?
[02:13] <hasan2> description: Multimedia audio controller
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> can you do ssh?
[02:14] <hasan2>  capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd
[02:14] <administrador> can we continue later? My boss call me I've got to go
[02:14] <administrador> back in a hour
[02:14] <administrador> hope you'll be arround
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> administrador: I woun't be around later... but someone else will be
[02:15] <hasan2> nosrednaekim :
[02:15] <hasan2>   description: Multimedia audio controller
[02:15] <hasan2>                 capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: just run lshw and look through the output for your audio device.
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: sorry........ and when you find it, pastebin the section.
[02:16] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : i got quite big output
[02:16] <hasan2> where to paste it ?
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> !pastebin | hasan2
[02:17] <ubotu> hasan2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:19] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26256/
[02:19] <jeroen__> my problem is not solved :(
[02:21] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: your driver is installed, sound should be working. Make sure in sound settings the driver is set to alsa
[02:22] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : how to do this ?
[02:23] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: system settings-> sounds system->Hardware-> select audio device =alsa
[02:23] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : where i can see that the driver is installed. just to learn it
[02:24] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: in lshw, there was a section for your sound card, in that section it said "driver=Intel"
[02:25] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : thanks , in my sound system settings , select the audio device  "no als found there" , midi device "Alsa device"
[02:26] <jeroen__> anybody from Belgium here?
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: sorry..... ALSA is short for the "advanced linux sound architecture"
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> which is on that list
[02:27] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : it seems good , let me try to listen any music
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: did the test work?
[02:28] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : let me try it =>test
[02:28] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : not working
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> I mean under sound system->general->test sound
[02:29] <hasan2> do i need to put my cable in the other port
[02:29] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: try putting your cable in every port and see what happens. front panel audio may not work.
[02:30] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : ya its in front panel audio , let me put it on back
[02:30] <nosrednaekim> put it in the green port.
[02:31] <romudog> hiya
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> hey.
[02:31] <romudog> lol nosrednaekim
[02:31] <romudog> What part of the world you in?
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> NJ, USA
[02:31] <romudog> lol Dont you work?
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> i'm 17, High school is out.
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> :)
[02:31] <romudog> nosrednaekim cool
[02:32] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : even sound on back ports not working
[02:32] <romudog> nosrednaekim Why no job yet? You got a car/license yet?
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: great...
[02:32] <romudog> hasan2 you got an audio card or built in sound?
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> romudog: don't want one.. ;)
[02:32] <benedek> I just joined this channel so I don't know if you have tried, but did you put all the sliders in the mixer to the top?
[02:32] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : its built in card
[02:33] <romudog> hasan2: Built in may be a problem maybe its not finding the IRQ or somethin..
[02:33] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : any other way to handle it
[02:33] <hasan2> nosrednaekim ; or configure it out
[02:34] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: intel is ussually very standard, which leads me to belive that some setting in the mixer is wrong.
[02:35] <romudog> nosrednaekim: I agree i usually find that maybe i have wrong audio driver...ALSA/OSS driver installed or my mixers are off
[02:35] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : u mean kmixer
[02:35] <Vaxter> hi to all! :)
[02:36] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : how to check mixer settings
[02:36] <romudog> Vaxter: Hello, Good morning.
[02:36] <Vaxter> 4 u 2 :)
[02:36] <Vaxter> ppl, need some help
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: lets so it the command line way... "alsamixer"
[02:36] <romudog> nosrednaekim: Dont you wish you could be paid for helping people?
[02:36] <jeroen__> Hi
[02:36] <romudog> !ask
[02:36] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:36] <Vaxter> i have just instaled kubuntu
[02:36] <nosrednaekim> romudog: yeah I kinda do.
[02:36] <Vaxter> and i have started to install apps
[02:36] <jeroen__> what's the lib. I need to install to play mp3 on amarok?
[02:36] <romudog> nosrednaekim: I love helpin.
[02:36] <Vaxter> but serbian update mirror is not working
[02:37] <romudog> Change mirrors
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> jeroen__: "libxine-extracodecs"
[02:37] <Vaxter> is there any way to change mirror that i am using
[02:37] <jeroen__> thanks ^^
[02:37] <romudog> yes
[02:37] <romudog> Vaxter: yes
[02:37] <Vaxter> ahow
[02:37] <hasan2> nosrednaekim  : i got the volumes of alsamixer
[02:37] <romudog> nosrednaekim you got the repositories handy? Cause i dont lol
[02:37] <Vaxter> i am googling, but i can't find it
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> Vaxter: if you are on fiesty, there is a built-in mirror chooser
[02:38] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: all at the top and unmuted?
[02:38] <Vaxter> i am
[02:38] <romudog> Vaxter: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:39] <Vaxter> ok, thanks
[02:39] <Vaxter> i am reading it now :)
[02:39] <romudog> Nosrednaekim: Audio jack could be in wrong plug...Just an idea..done that sooo many times i have a special backports its 7.2 and only one will work with sound...
[02:39] <nosrednaekim> Vaxter: adeptmanager->adept->manage repositories-> download from
[02:39] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : ok , how to do unmuted, all are at top now
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> romudog: hmm true... start switching!
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: they are probabaly all unmuted (if they were in mix)
[02:40] <hasan2> nosrednaekim ; all done
[02:41] <hasan2> how to quite and save
[02:41] <romudog> nosrednaekim: Too bad we cant just remote assist invite everyone to fix their probs..lol
[02:41] <hasan2> sorry
[02:41] <hasan2> escape to quite for alsamixer
[02:41] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : any thing to do to restart alsamixer ?
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> romudog: too slow if internet for that, but yeah, that would be awesome
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: restart?
[02:41] <romudog> nosrednaekim: Dialup?
[02:41] <nosrednaekim> you mean restart alsa?
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> romudog: yeah.
[02:42] <romudog> nosrednaekim: Ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X Server
[02:42] <hasan2> nosrednaekim :yes how ?
[02:42] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : restart the pc ?
[02:43] <romudog> hasan2: You dont have to ever restart your PC in linux imo
[02:43] <imagine> romudog: ever...
[02:43] <imagine> bit too much :)
[02:43] <romudog> imagine: ??
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: no need to restart for changing mixer values
[02:43] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : how to test the sound..still test sound setting null
[02:43] <imagine> sometimes you need to reboot :P
[02:44] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: tried all the ports in the back?
[02:44] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : no sound yet from test sound
[02:44] <romudog> nosrednaekim: isnt there a console based one with absoloute values? I used it once to apply a harder mic boost..
[02:44] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : yes tried all ports already
[02:45] <romudog> imagine: When? Ive never had to boot i just restart X
[02:45] <imagine> romudog: I already had X hangin so much that I needed to reboot. whenever you make a kernel update
[02:45] <imagine> romudog: it's very rare tho
[02:45] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : any other luck for sound
[02:45] <Stevethepirate> Hi ppl. Anyone know of a program that acts as a nice frontend to www.cdcovers.cc ?
[02:46] <romudog> imagine: Naw i never boot you only need to boot for kernel when u update for that kernel only software lol otherwise its when i boot next..lmfao
[02:46] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: I have no idea, google your chipset and linux
[02:46] <Stevethepirate> or one that downloads hi-res dvd covers from www.cdcovers.cc ?
[02:46] <imagine> :P
[02:46] <romudog> stevethepirate: Google it man or rep search it
[02:47] <umnik> i need some help with printer sharing
[02:47] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : hadeadphon is 00 in alsamixer
[02:47] <Stevethepirate> rom: done both..
[02:47] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : is that make any difference
[02:47] <umnik> i had it working, but recently had to change my local ip from 192.168.0.* to 192.168.1.*
[02:47] <romudog> stevethepirate: lol then maybe there isnt one, You can try to make one though lol..
[02:47] <Stevethepirate> romudog: done both.. was hoping someone here might have some code floating around...
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: that means its on, you just don't want it MM
[02:48] <umnik> i changed the ip in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[02:48] <romudog> Stevethepirate: Check out sf.net run a search there
[02:48] <umnik> what else should i do?
[02:48] <romudog> umnik:http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Linux_printer_sharing_with_CUPS
[02:48] <nosrednaekim> umnik: maybe re-set of the whole arrangement from scratch if it isn't working right now.
[02:49] <umnik> nosrednaekim: ok, will try that
[02:49] <Stevethepirate> romudog: opening firefox could have deadly affects.. ^_^
[02:49] <hasan2> nosrednaekim : MM is mute ? right
[02:49] <romudog> stevethepirate: Huh?
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> hasan2: yeah