[06:00] <LazyAngel> vegiVamp: thanks. that was what i thought. just needed to double check before all the work :)
[06:00] <bouba> hello
[06:00] <vegiVamp> noaXess: update-manager is a thingy in your taskbar, which checks for updates and calls synaptic to install them
[06:00] <vegiVamp> LazyAngel: just unmount it manually for a few days, and see what happens :-)
[06:00] <LazyAngel> hehe
[06:01] <vegiVamp> be sure to check the syslogs
[06:01] <crashbox> dumb question.......... does ubuntu come with a c compiler?
[06:01] <wickedpuppy> crashbox, no
[06:01] <noaXess> vegiVamp: i plan a web/mysql server and whant to check for updates all night.. then upt-get is my choice?
[06:01] <kjb> hi i found in an article, the following command, and i should do it, that vmaware is working, here the command: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-uname -r
[06:01] <wickedpuppy> you got to get it after installing
[06:01] <noaXess> apt-get
[06:01] <kjb> but its not working
[06:01] <crashbox> wickedpuppy, thanks
[06:01] <[LethAL] > !tell crashbox about be
[06:02] <Ng> kjb: that should be linux-headers-`uname -r`
[06:02] <Ng> the backticks are important
[06:02] <kjb> Ng, thx
[06:02] <vegiVamp> but if you really want to, just put a crontab with apt-get update && apt-get upgrade --force or something like that
[06:02] <kjb> they have forgoten them in the articel
[06:03] <vegiVamp> you'll get a daily mail about what happened
[06:03] <vegiVamp> but on a server, you don't update unless there's a good reason, such as security holes.
[06:03] <vegiVamp> if it isn't broken, don't fix it
[06:05] <bouba> hello
[06:05] <kjb> Ng, E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-uname -r
[06:05] <vegiVamp> noaXess: cron something like apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -uV --dry-run (or whatever the parameter is), so it'll mail you what it would have done without actually having done it. Then you decide yourself wether you need to patch.
[06:05] <wickedpuppy> hi who can i ask question on pbuilder ?
[06:05] <kjb> ah the false '
[06:05] <kjb> now its working :)
[06:05] <Seveas> wickedpuppy, just ask in here :)
[06:05] <wickedpuppy> Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Alpha i386 (20050902)] /dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[06:05] <wickedpuppy> i got this error
[06:06] <wickedpuppy> although i added cd with apt-cdrom add
[06:06] <wickedpuppy> know why Seveas ?? thanks
[06:06] <Seveas> wickedpuppy, is the mountpoint available in the pbuilde chroot?
[06:06] <noaXess> vegiVamp: thanks.. thats what i need.. later i come back to this tip.. first need to download it and install it on my notebook
[06:06] <Seveas> if not, mount it inside the chroot (or mount -o bind it inside the chroot)
[06:07] <wickedpuppy> ah ... mountpoint ?
[06:07] <wickedpuppy> i thought it mounts in var ?
[06:07] <Seveas> pbuilder chroot is in var indeed
[06:07] <Seveas> you need to mount -o bind the cdrom there
[06:07] <wickedpuppy> i am following the wiki exactly
[06:08] <wickedpuppy> oh .. hmms ... ah there is my missing step
[06:08] <Seveas> the wiki does not treat cds irrc
[06:09] <wickedpuppy> yah .. but pbuild ask for cd source ... perhaps its looking into my sources.list ?
[06:09] <Se7h> i need some help plz
[06:09] <scanwinder> does anyone know of any console-based media players where you can have a playlist?
[06:10] <Se7h> im stuck on a apt error
[06:10] <Danny_26M> need help guys
[06:10] <Se7h> lol
[06:10] <Seveas> Se7h, put the error on the pastebon
[06:10] <Seveas> !tell Danny_26M about helpme
[06:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> night all :S
[06:10] <Se7h> is that the chan or the webpage?
[06:10] <Seveas> !pastebin
[06:10] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:11] <Danny_26M> i have a laptop, and installed ltmodem, whenever I dial to connect...the screen suddenly gets blank
[06:11] <Se7h> k
[06:11] <Danny_26M> do you know the problem? thanks
[06:11] <woodwizzle> uuuhhh, somehow I made my desktop show the contents of my trashcan and not the contents of my ~/Desktop folder?!
[06:11] <Seveas> woodwizzle, did you move the contents of your trashcan to your desktop perhaps?
[06:11] <florian> hi, how to get the width and height of an image? I already tried identify, but I am not able to find out how to set two variables in a script, whereas one is holding the width and the other one the size
[06:11] <ubuntu> hi
[06:11] <Seveas> Danny_26M, just blank or is the system rebooting/hanging?
[06:12] <Se7h> k, its done
[06:12] <Se7h> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2817
[06:12] <Danny_26M> Seveas: it suddenly blanks. but it does not restart or anything
[06:12] <woodwizzle> Seveas: perhaps,
[06:12] <Danny_26M> i guess you I would say, it hanged and blank
[06:13] <woodwizzle> Seveas but it is actually now Showing the trashcan.  WESNOTH has no sound! can somebody help me?
[06:15] <wickedpuppy> Seveas, sorry but how would you mount the cd rom ? mount -o /dev/cdrom /var/cache/pbuilder ?
[06:15] <grayman_> florian, shell script?
[06:15] <Seveas> and then remove the other package BEFORE removing eclipse-rcp
[06:15] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I would like to check if I burned well a DVD.So I would like to copy all the DVD to /dev/null to check if there are I/O errors.but /dev/null is not a directory.any other ways?
[06:15] <picasso> anyone ever see it happen where your panel will jitter and cause system to freeze?
[06:15] <Danny_26M> Seveas: Alt F7 does not work
[06:15] <Danny_26M> any gues???
[06:15] <florian> grayman_, yes
[06:15] <Seveas> Danny_26M, none at all, sorry....
[06:15] <kennethlove> is there any sort of GUI NFS utility other than Gnome's Shared Folders?
[06:15] <Danny_26M> ok thanks!
[06:15] <Seveas> kennethlove, not that I know of
[06:16] <grayman_> florian, var=8
[06:16] <CarlFK> Alex_BO - md5sum all the files
[06:16] <kennethlove> Seveas: thanks.
[06:16] <orion> Danny_26M: you mean CTRL + ALT + F7?
[06:16] <Se7h> Seveas i think ive done that before, but i'll try once more
[06:16] <dbzdeath> Alex_BO: cat /dev/yourdvddrivedevicename > /dev/null ?
[06:16] <Alex_BO> CarlFK, tnks
[06:16] <mameluke> no Wesnoth-users here?
[06:16] <Danny_26M> i'll try it orion
[06:16] <Danny_26M> gotta connect my laptop
[06:16] <CarlFK> Alex_BO - what I do: create an md5sum file before, burn that to the disk too
[06:16] <Danny_26M> be bak in a minute
[06:16] <woodwizzle> mameluke, I'm a wesnoth user
[06:16] <Danny_26M> thanks guys
[06:16] <woodwizzle> I got sound with it
[06:16] <CarlFK> Alex_BO - that way you can check it later if things get weird
[06:16] <grayman_> florian, can add export before to do it global
[06:16] <mameluke> woodwizzle, never had problems with the sound?
[06:17] <Alex_BO> dbzdeath, okey.i didn't know to use `cat'
[06:17] <woodwizzle> I'm sure you already check thed sound checkbox in the audio menu of wesnoth
[06:17] <woodwizzle> What version are you running/
[06:17] <mameluke> moment....
[06:17] <CarlFK> Alex_BO - also, create a .torrent of all the files, put that on the disk. burn 2, give one to a friend.  if one disk gets hosed, you can use BT to repair it.
[06:17] <mameluke> i've checked.. but will recheck
[06:17] <florian> grayman_, i am stilltraying to find out what you ment by "var=8"
[06:17] <florian> trying
[06:18] <grayman_> like
[06:18] <grayman_> width=8
[06:18] <Crazy_Man> stupid new kernel update
[06:18] <Gordon> german ubuntu channel ?? do it exist
[06:18] <Alex_BO> CarlFK: cool!the way of md5sum is cool
[06:18] <Alex_BO> CarlFK: thank you very much
[06:18] <florian> grayman_, i see, but where to get the 8, in other words the width, from?
[06:18] <Gordon> help because my englisch is very bad please help
[06:19] <Spec> Any one having trouble connecting to the repositories?
[06:19] <dmlinux> hey guys , how do i make Gdesklets run on startup ??
[06:19] <mameluke> woodwizzle, there are just scrollbars, and they are on maximum... its the version 0.8.11
[06:19] <Seveas> woodwizzle, weird though: did you do ln -s ~/Desktop ~/.Trash ?
[06:19] <woodwizzle> mamwlukw... wow thats old. Upgrade to 1.0 and see if that fixes it
[06:19] <grayman_> florian, you can use a program that will return that values
[06:20] <Se7h> Seveas  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2818
[06:20] <grayman_> florian, or set manually
[06:20] <woodwizzle> woops, w and e got swapped there
[06:20] <Se7h> its drivin me crazy
[06:20] <Gordon> wie komm ich in den deutschen kanal
[06:20] <woodwizzle> Seveas ... lemme check
[06:20] <mameluke> woodwizzle, hmmm.... i've installed it just with apt and the standard mirrors...
[06:20] <CarlFK> Alex_BO - here is mine: find ./ -follow \( -type f -or -type l \) -not -name "*.md5" -exec md5sum {} \;|tee index.md5
[06:20] <Seveas> Gordon, /join #ubuntu-de
[06:20] <woodwizzle> you might have to download the source and compile 1.0
[06:20] <mameluke> omg
[06:20] <mameluke> ic
[06:20] <Gordon> thank
[06:21] <edgarin> Hi
[06:21] <mameluke> woodwizzle, thx for the hint
[06:21] <woodwizzle> not thtat hard, just ./configure make and make install
[06:21] <florian> grayman_, I already tried "identify", but I was not able to figure out how to handle the result
[06:21] <woodwizzle> Seveas, dunno, how do I check?
[06:21] <Alex_BO> CarlFK, you are very kind
[06:21] <Seveas> woodwizzle, ls -al ~ | grep Trash
[06:22] <grayman_> florian, let me look at it
[06:22] <Se7h> Seveas plz have a look http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2818
[06:22] <woodwizzle> Seveas, nope not linked. They dont' show the same content, they show what the other should
[06:22] <torontoyes> Is it possible to burn an iso onto a dvd ? and run it fromt he dvd,. cause i ran out of regular cd's
[06:22] <torontoyes> ?
[06:22] <Se7h> we should get a number on join
[06:22] <Se7h> lol
[06:23] <Se7h> torontoyes sure
[06:23] <judah> hi. so after breezy updates last night my update-notifier has the little light bulb stuck stating it has a post update alert.. except there is no alert listed and the close and run action buttons don't work. just the big X ... killing.. restarting.. rebooting.. logging out and back in.. nothing clears it.
[06:23] <Seveas> torontoyes, you van mount an iso file too :)
[06:24] <avalost> judah, reboot probably just anew kernel messege
[06:24] <florian> grayman_, i.e. "identify bdw1128612098.jpg" returns "bdw1128612098.jpg JPEG 350x244 DirectClass 29kb 0.020u 0:01"
[06:24] <judah> no.. like i said.. been there done that.
[06:24] <judah> and no message is actually listed.
[06:24] <Skid> hmmm, i've a home lan - is it possible to route <IP_ADDRESS> via eth0 if it's up, and if not eth1, as normal?
[06:24] <avalost> oh have you tried to run an apt-get update
[06:24] <torontoyes> Seveas: I realize I can mount an iso,. but I'd have to mount it from windows,. as thats the OS I'm in,.
[06:24] <avalost> then upgrade?
[06:24] <Seveas> woodwizzle, you've got me puzzled, no idea what's going on there. Maybe logout+login works?
[06:24] <judah> avalost: yep.
[06:24] <Skid> (i.e. so i can send at gig, rather than fe )
[06:24] <avalost> weird
[06:24] <judah> even had 24 new updates this morning.
[06:24] <judah> yeah weird.
[06:24] <torontoyes> I am removing windows and sticking with linux
[06:25] <Seveas> torontoyes, very wise :)
[06:25] <torontoyes> I don't know if ubuntu is the best thing to use,.
[06:25] <Seveas> it is :)
[06:25] <torontoyes> but I guess I'll find out.
[06:25] <judah> torontoyes: you won't be disapointed.
[06:25] <Se7h> uhum
[06:25] <judah> torontoyes: but wait until breezy is live. "teh bomb"
[06:25] <yancheng> hello, anyone had encounter problem in installing glade-gnome-2? i get the error while installing :
[06:25] <yancheng> glade-gnome-2:
[06:25] <yancheng> Depends: libgda2-1 but it is not going to be installed
[06:25] <yancheng> Depends: libgnomedb2-3 but it is not going to be installed
[06:26] <Se7h> !pastebin
[06:26] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:26] <judah> avalost: so any other ideas?
[06:26] <avalost> not at the moment
[06:26] <torontoyes> Is ubuntu better to use for a Noob than Mandrake?
[06:26] <Seveas> yancheng, paste your sources.list on the pastebin
[06:26] <Seveas> torontoyes, much better
[06:26] <torontoyes> really
[06:26] <avalost> torontoyes, about the same
[06:26] <Se7h> Seveas any ideas on that apt prob?
[06:26] <torontoyes> Ubuntu only has one cd to downlaod
[06:26] <Seveas> Se7h, well, looks like the eclips packages are quite broken
[06:27] <yancheng> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2819
[06:27] <avalost> ubuntu tends tobe less bloated
[06:27] <pont> has anyone reported any problems when updating breezy beta that gnome wont start and it freezes X11
[06:27] <Seveas> torontoyes, the rest is easily installable on an installed system
[06:27] <Seveas> VERY easily even
[06:27] <pont> well it frezes the computer
[06:27] <yancheng> Seveas: I saw there is another package named glade-2 from Development (universe), which is not official supported. should i use that one instead of glade-gnome-2
[06:27] <Seveas> Ubuntu has over 17000 pieces of software
[06:27] <mindspore> How's the installer in Breezy?
[06:27] <torontoyes> avalost: I am using an older machine,. but quite solid,. PIII 500 256mb Ram
[06:27] <Seveas> torontoyes, that'll run ubuntu just fine :)
[06:27] <Se7h> Seveas the major problem here is: /usr/sbin/update-gcj-classmaps-eclipse: No such file or directory
[06:27] <avalost> torontoyes, it's all a matter for preference
[06:27] <torontoyes> I have an Intel Motherboard, my machine is the fastest PIII 500 I know
[06:28] <Seveas> Se7h, that one is in the eclipse-rcp package, that's why I told you to install that one :)
[06:28] <avalost> I have run most major distros, mandriva and ubuntu are similar in ease of use but have different approaches
[06:28] <torontoyes> Anyway,. umm,. how should I setup my partitoins
[06:28] <judah> sweet it just crashed this time when i clicked on it
[06:28] <CarlFK> my gf just got a a usb cd burner.  when she plugs it in, will Gnome baker need to be told about it, or will it find it?
[06:28] <avalost> use the auto-setup feature
[06:29] <Seveas> yancheng, try disabling backports
[06:29] <Se7h> Seveas ye, but installing that will fetch some other stuff
[06:29] <avalost> the settings are fine for most uses
[06:29] <Se7h> ok, i'll try another way
[06:30] <avalost> mandriva 2006 is quite spiffy in relation to releases of the past, it would prbably suit you to check out both and see what works for you
[06:30] <avalost> everyone has different needs yanno
[06:31] <torontoyes> All i need linux for is my home desktop,. Utilize a word Processor,. do some web development,. thats about it.
[06:31] <thrice`> RC out =]
[06:31] <avalost> ubuntu would be fine then
[06:31] <biezt_linux> ubuntu is great :D
[06:31] <biezt_linux> tbh
[06:31] <torontoyes> avalost: whats a really good development suite for Web Development?
[06:32] <avalost> torontoyes, I use quanta plus, screem and NVU and bluefish
[06:32] <avalost> all have their merits
[06:32] <kennethlove> scite!
[06:32] <torontoyes> indeed
[06:32] <avalost> i'm not a fan of scite though
[06:32] <torontoyes> I have tried quanta and NVU,. i have not tried Bluefish or sreem,.
[06:32] <thrice`> wow, they got gnome 2.12.1 into breezy RC
[06:33] <thrice`> that musta been the delay :)
[06:33] <kennethlove> you could try eclipse and jedit, if you're wanting to give everything a shake
[06:33] <avalost> bluefish & quanta are my two go-to editors
[06:33] <[LethAL] > ANybody know why I can't install arwiz-cursor on breezy?
[06:33] <torontoyes> Ahh yes,. Eclips
[06:33] <torontoyes> Eclipse
[06:34] <torontoyes> I have heard of one other, I don't think its free though Komodo
[06:34] <avalost> never tried it..
[06:34] <kennethlove> yeah, me neither.
[06:34] <yancheng> Seveas: great! that's work. bt may i noe why it work?
[06:36] <Se7h> damn this is getting realy annoying
[06:38] <kennethlove> what port does NFS connect on, anyone know?
[06:38] <Spec> Any one else have trouble reaching the repositories
[06:38] <Skid> nop
[06:38] <sexcopter8000m> hi, i want to download some songs on a webpage, i'm guessing wget is a good programme to use, what would be the command to do this?
[06:38] <Shin_Gouki> hi anyone want to help me to get an SPC player under ubuntu running?
[06:38] <sexcopter8000m> they're all mp3s
[06:39] <nubbe> Any thoughts why the 5.10 RC torrent i386 is stalled?
[06:39] <gverig> Hi! I have just installed few "universe" games. How can I add them to the "Applications" menu?
[06:39] <kennethlove> sexcopter8000m: you'd probably be better off with cURL than with wget
[06:39] <sexcopter8000m> ok, thanks kennethlove i shall investigate
[06:40] <puff> Hm, anybody familiar with IDEA?  I'm trying to import a project and it's not acting the way I expect it to.
[06:40] <sexcopter8000m> gverig: not sure, but i think that's a real downer with hoary, you can't edit the menus (am i right?)
[06:40] <sexcopter8000m> but you can make a launcher
[06:40] <nubbe> sexcopter8000m, u can use smeg
[06:40] <gverig> sexcopter8000m: Yeah, I can. But want to edit menus :)
[06:40] <sexcopter8000m> oh, ok my bad
[06:40] <wezzer> woohoo, it's only a week to breezy's release!
[06:41] <puff> Whoops, sorry, wrong channel.
[06:41] <gverig> nubbe: Who is smeg and what does it do (how does it work)?
[06:42] <pierro> what does ubuntu use for sound ? alsa ?
[06:42] <nubbe> gverig, it's a menu-editor, not perfect but better than nothing
[06:43] <gverig> nubbe: What package has it? I can't find it in synaptic
[06:44] <gverig> Am I the only one who finds that it is stupid that menu is that hard to access?
[06:44] <Toba> the kernel update that came out awhile back if failing on my system
[06:44] <Toba> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.10/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34.6_i386.deb
[06:44] <Toba>   MD5Sum mismatch
[06:44] <nubbe> gverig, I got it from backports, don't know if it's in uni or multiverse
[06:44] <Toba> any ideas about what I can do about that?
[06:46] <Crazy_Man> anyone else having trouble with the new Breezy update?
[06:47] <daveo> Crazy_Man: I've having tons of trouble with the new update
[06:48] <lakin> By default where does ubuntu put pictures uploaded from a digital camera?
[06:48] <Myrtti> it puts them somewhere?
[06:48] <Myrtti> :->
[06:49] <sexcopter8000m> ok kennethlove or anyone else, I've got cURL and can't see an easy syntax to download all the mp3 files off a given webpage... any help?
[06:49] <jjgod> Hi, will RC1 be released today?
[06:50] <judah> !pastebin
[06:50] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:50] <torontoyes> I am having probs buring the ubuntu iso to a dvd
[06:51] <funkyHat> i'm following the ubuntu wiki on setting up samba, and it tells me to add settings in the networking setup
[06:51] <nubbe> jjgod, it's already out
[06:51] <funkyHat> the options aren't there though
[06:51] <torontoyes> how do I burn an iso to dvdr cd ?
[06:52] <Nvidiot> I'm running apt-get and it tells me: The following packages have been kept back: mplayer-386.
[06:52] <Nvidiot> What's that about ?
[06:52] <GDorn> they didn't pass and have to take the 4th grade over again.
[06:52] <gverig> Do I need any of the "source" repos if I do not plan on building anything from source? Is there any software that's not in bin?
[06:52] <Nvidiot> GDorn: yeah, something like that I figured lol
[06:53] <funkyHat> wow... new kernel again....
[06:53] <funkyHat> it's like there's an update every day! lol
[06:53] <eliphas_> yeah?
[06:53] <Nvidiot> oo! New bootscreen :D
[06:53] <[LethAL] > Hehe
[06:53] <Nvidiot> looks neato
[06:53] <Nvidiot> cute progress bar and all
[06:53] <eliphas_> really ?
[06:53] <Denski> good evening
[06:53] <eliphas_> a new spalscreen ?
[06:53] <[LethAL] > Nvidiot, USpash isn't new
[06:53] <funkyHat> Nvidiot, not really that new ;)
[06:53] <eliphas_> spash
[06:54] <Nvidiot> I didn't have that before tho
[06:54] <gverig> backports repo from http://ubuntuguide.org/ is not available :( Anybody knows an alternative?
[06:54] <judah> anyone else update-notifier freaking out on them after updates from yesterday?
[06:54] <[LethAL] > judah, bulb with no suggestions?
[06:54] <funkyHat> Nvidiot, do you have a vga= setting in your boot.lst?
[06:54] <judah> [LethAL] : YES!
[06:54] <[LethAL] > judah, me too
[06:54] <judah> doh!
[06:54] <Nvidiot> funkyHat: if I do then the last kernel update added it
[06:54] <judah> 'sup with that?
[06:54] <judah> i can't clear that sucker.. no way no how.
[06:54] <Denski> does anyone know how to install java runtime???? ubuntu hoary?
[06:55] <[LethAL] > !javadebs
[06:55] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, [LethAL]
[06:55] <funkyHat> Nvidiot, it won't have done, that would be a possible reason why the splash screen had only just appeared
[06:55] <[LethAL] > wth
[06:55] <[LethAL] > !java
[06:55] <ubotu> it has been said that java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[06:55] <Nvidiot> Denski: RestrictedFormat wiki, use the one from sun and create your own deb file
[06:55] <judah> [LethAL] : the close and run this action now buttons don't work either?
[06:55] <Denski> sorry im a newbie...its a bin file on sun website right? how do i create a deb??? alien???
[06:56] <Nvidiot> no vga= setting
[06:56] <Nvidiot> Denski: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[06:56] <[LethAL] > !tell Denski about javadeb
[06:56] <judah> [LethAL] : any idea where those bits are kept that it checks for those messages.. maybe it's just an errant xml entry.
[06:56] <mshade> guys, how do I keep gam_server from being used?
[06:56] <Nvidiot> anyone know why mplayer-386 doesn't want to be updated ?
[06:56] <[LethAL] > !tell Denski about dpkg
[06:56] <[LethAL] > judah, could be...
[06:57] <Shin_Gouki> who is a Linux sound freak and wants to waste a bit of time helpin me? to install an spc player on ubuntu?
[06:58] <spiral> hmmm, I have to use a home-built kernel under ubuntu in order to get some of my laptop's hardware to be properly handled...
[06:58] <spiral> how could I give you informations about this so that maybe someday I could use default kernel ?
[06:59] <nerdy2> mshade, why?
[07:00] <mshade> nerdy2: because i leave my machine running and it gobbles up 47.5% of my 1GB ram?
[07:00] <Nvidiot> mshade: that's filecaching, which is perfectly normal and speeds things up actually
[07:00] <fr500> spiral, what hw?
[07:01] <mshade> Nvidiot: why then, doesn't it show up as cached memory?  instead of allocated
[07:01] <gverig> Anybody knows if I can use warty backports instead of hoary?
[07:01] <judah> mshade: run free -m  and check out your -/+ buffers/cache line
[07:01] <mshade> judah: that's exactly what I did.
[07:02] <spiral> fr500: medion laptop with sk98lin network card, sata chip, snd-hda-intel sound & so on...
[07:02] <mshade> before killing gam_server:
[07:02] <fr500> ohhhh
[07:02] <mshade> Mem:          1012        962         50          0         52        148
[07:02] <fr500> spiral, sounds complex
[07:02] <mshade> after killing gam_server: Mem:          1012        480        531          0         52        148
[07:02] <dmlinux> hey guys, i installed flash the other day,  and now i cant see TEXT  on some websites...?? Any ideas
[07:02] <spiral> fr500: yeah, that's why I compile my own kernel :-/
[07:02] <[LethAL] > Does anyone know why my LiteON Combo SOHC-5232K CD-RW/DVD-ROM doesn't burn CD's properly? Just prepares to do it and then 'finishes'
[07:03] <fr500> spiral, i think there is a page for that, and the ubuntu device database probably helps
[07:03] <dmlinux> hey guys, i installed flash the other day,  and now i cant see TEXT  on some websites...?? Any ideas
[07:03] <Denski> thanks
[07:04] <mshade> so then, is there a way to disable gam_server?
[07:04] <mshade> attempting to remove it with sudo apt-get remove gamin... proposes to remove 2/3 of my useful applications
[07:04] <nerdy2> mshade, note that a lot of it is buffers/cache
[07:05] <mshade> nerdy2: 148 mb
[07:05] <nalioth> mshade: gam_server is a critical part of your system
[07:05] <spiral> fr500: I shall look atthis
[07:05] <nerdy2> here the RSS of gam_server is about 1MB
[07:05] <mshade> nerdy2: here, it was up to ~400
[07:05] <nerdy2> the RSS ?
[07:06] <judah> [LethAL] : i fixed it!
[07:06] <mshade> nerdy2: here is what ps aux|grep gam_server reported:
[07:06] <Se7h> ok, i guess i'll have to w8 for a fix in this crap
[07:06] <mshade> mike     23755  0.0 47.5<PHONE_NUMBER>00 ?       S    Oct05   0:41 /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server
[07:06] <[LethAL] > judah, Oh?
[07:06] <mshade> nerdy2: and after killing it ~400 MB of active ram was cleared
[07:06] <judah> [LethAL] : toast your .update-notifier directory and log out and back in.
[07:06] <mshade> this is far too much for 'file caching'
[07:06] <judah> [LethAL] : then it posts the message and you can clear it.
[07:06] <[LethAL] > judah, Make me some toast, I don't have any
[07:07] <nerdy2> mshade, yes you're right, that's not right,  my line is : jeff      9339  0.5  0.2   2840  1492 ?        S    01:05   3:40 /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server
[07:07] <judah> [LethAL] : i make enough toast for my prego wife..
[07:07] <[LethAL] > judah, as in command not found...
[07:07] <Nvidiot> The following packages have been kept back: mplayer-386. Why?
[07:07] <nerdy2> mshade, is your /home NFS mounted?
[07:07] <mshade> nerdy2: I have 3 NFS shares mounted, but not my home
[07:07] <damg> hi, can anyone tell me how i can install (k)ubuntu (5.04) on a toshiba m50? the installation progress just hangs on 98%/activating pc-card system ...
[07:08] <mshade> nerdy2: they are 3 data drives from a slackware file server
[07:08] <Ghoat> I installed realplayer 10, nothing happens when you run it, where is the gui?
[07:08] <mshade> nerdy2: two 150GB partitions and one 400GB partition
[07:09] <nerdy2> mshade, are they under /mnt or /media?
[07:10] <mshade> nerdy2: I have them mounted under /share/{1,2,3}
[07:10] <damg> anyone?
[07:11] <mshade> damg: when launching the installer, look through the boot options (Fkeys).  there should be an option to disable pcmcia for the installer.
[07:11] <nerdy2> mshade, do you have inotify enabled in the kernel?
[07:11] <mshade> damg: after you're installed you should be able to enable pcmcia services.
[07:11] <mshade> nerdy2: I'm running the stock ubuntu 5.10 kernel, I'm not sure whether inotify is enabled in that or not?  it's not an option i'm familiar with.
[07:11] <damg> i cant install, msshade, it hangs on 98% while detecting the hardware during installation
[07:12] <concept10> Ghoat, I have the same problem.  Its a problem with the installation
[07:12] <mshade> damg: you said it hangs while trying to initiate pcmcia services.. disable them for the install.
[07:12] <damg> msshade, wha options do i have to submit to boot: to deactivate them?
[07:12] <damg> +t
[07:12] <nerdy2> mshade, i think it's compiled in, but i don't know if it's enabled by default [i have a lilo.conf which passes a boot-time option to enable it, and i had to make /dev/inotify for it as well]
[07:12] <mshade> damg: look through the boot options with the F1 F2 F3 keys
[07:13] <judah> mshade: grep NOTIFY /boot/config-`uname -r`
[07:13] <damg> ok, rebooting :D
[07:13] <damg> thx
[07:13] <mshade> judah: INOTIFY is enabled
[07:13] <nerdy2> mshade, have you looked at the memory maps of gam_server to see what's the memory usage?
[07:13] <nerdy2> [what's taking up that 400MB in other words]
[07:13] <florian> why does echo `expr 2 * 2` tell me 'expr: syntax error' ?
[07:13] <mshade> nerdy2: beyond its ps aux entry and free -m, no
[07:13] <concept10> Ghoat, When the application is installed, it runs through a debconf dialog box.  You have to specify where the program is located at in this config.
[07:14] <nerdy2> mshade, that might be instructive, you could at least check what's making it go haywire,   for this you'd look in /proc/`pidof gam_server`/maps
[07:15] <mshade> nerdy2: thanks for that tip.  I'll check that out.
[07:15] <vbgunz_> anyone know of a program that can read AiRoboForm passcards on Linux?
[07:15] <vbgunz_> anyone know of a alternative to AiRoboForm on Ubuntu?
[07:15] <ky0nce> florian: escape the * like \*
[07:15] <[LethAL] > revelation
[07:15] <[LethAL] > !info revelation
[07:15] <ubotu> revelation: (GNOME2 Password manager), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.3.4-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 81 kB, Installed size: 424 kB
[07:16] <florian> thanx
[07:16] <judah> [LethAL] : did that work for you too?
[07:16] <[LethAL] > vbgunz_, there are also firefox plugins for a similar function
[07:16] <[LethAL] > judah, as I said, I have no toast
[07:16] <Ghoat> concept:can I view this debconf dialog box?
[07:16] <Futrzaq> hello
[07:16] <mshade> nerdy2: now to try to 'accelerate' the problem heh
[07:16] <judah> you mean you don't have that directory in your home dir?
[07:16] <judah> rm -rf ~/.update-notifier
[07:17] <vbgunz_> lethal, thank you, *but* nothing that can at least read the roboform cards correct?
[07:17] <nerdy2> mshade, also, fwiw http://www.gnome.org/~veillard/gamin/config.html [and maybe other pages there]  could be useful,  if gamin is getting confused polling your nfs mounts too often, or something else, you may be able to override it
[07:17] <[LethAL] > vbgunz_, probably not
[07:17] <mshade> nerdy2: thanks for the link.  I'm mainly familiar with slackware, which doesn't use these sorts of tools
[07:17] <vbgunz_> lethal, thank you, I have to try and export them all to text, I hope something works ;P
[07:18] <logikal_> Hi guys
[07:18] <nerdy2> mshade, well gam_server is a relatively new thing which is integral in the gnome desktop
[07:18] <logikal_> I just installed ubuntu
[07:18] <Futrzaq> i've got a question which is not related to ubuntu at all, but please, help me ; ) I'm writing my resume in english, what am I supposed to put at the end, that I agree to copy and store my personal detail and so on... ?
[07:18] <[LethAL] > logikal_, Well done :D
[07:18] <logikal_> I want to make ubuntu look better, what can I do?
[07:18] <logikal_> hahah
[07:18] <Futrzaq> www.gnome-look.org
[07:18] <judah> geezuz.. the brown rulez..
[07:18] <logikal_> it wasn't hard it all, it just seems to work unlike other distros
[07:18] <funkyHat> logikal_, system > Preferences > themes
[07:19] <jkrogh> Anyone using "xterm" in Breezy?
[07:19] <dm_> hey guys
[07:19] <funkyHat> if you haven't been there already
[07:19] <nerdy2> mshade, specifically it allows one to figure out when files are modified [it's a FAM server] ,  so if you can't figure out what's wrong there's always famd, but i'd recommend trying to fix gam_server first
[07:19] <logikal_> Yeah
[07:19] <vbgunz_> logikal_ yup gnome-look and gnome-art at www.gnome.org are two places to start
[07:19] <logikal_> Im using xIRC in breezy
[07:19] <funkyHat> xIRC?
[07:19] <dm_> Whats the repository for Java plug in?? when i follow ubuntuguide.org ther repos they gave me all come up with errors
[07:19] <mshade> nerdy2: hmmm ok
[07:19] <logikal_> xCHat IRC
[07:19] <logikal_> whatever came with it..
[07:19] <funkyHat> ah xchat :)
[07:20] <logikal_> Just this human theme is a bit bland
[07:20] <nerdy2> mshade, [reasons to fix gam_server:  famd is more network aware, it uses RPC, and i hate to run portmap or have anything listening on ports :),  gam_server can use inotify rather than polling, which is a better kernel interface for notifications, it doesn't require opening a fd, and can be a bit finer grained ... so if you aren't using inotify this is maybe something to check out when you get bored :)]
[07:20] <dm_> Whats the repository for Java plug in?? when i follow ubuntuguide.org ther repos they gave me all come up with errors
[07:20] <NoUse> !tell dm_ about java
[07:21] <dm_> noUse ??
[07:21] <mshade> nerdy2: well, i have to run rpc.portmap to mount the nfs shares
[07:21] <bpf> !tell bpf about java
[07:21] <nerdy2> mshade, that's true :)
[07:21] <mshade> nerdy2: so I wouldn't call that a drawback in my particular scenario
[07:21] <mshade> :)
[07:21] <logikal_> Well guys, the largest resolution it will shot me is 1024x768
[07:21] <dm_> !tell dm_ about java
[07:21] <NoUse> dm_ read what ubotu sent you
[07:21] <logikal_> I need a larger res, im on a 21 inch monitor
[07:21] <[LethAL] > !tell logikal_ about fixres
[07:21] <vbgunz_> logikal, not on Ubuntu at the moment but look in your xorg.conf file I believe...
[07:22] <logikal_> thanks
[07:22] <logikal_> you guys are hepfucl
[07:22] <logikal_> helpful
[07:22] <logikal_> If i could type durrh.
[07:23] <nerdy2> mshade, the desktop applications for this are hopefully obvious:  the panel can keep track of your list of recently opened files by monitoring the file with the list,  your music player can monitor ~/Music and get updated if you rip another cd or whatever, your desktop search/indexing tool can get updated if files get modified to reindex them [beagle plays this role, but isn't installed by default]
[07:23] <dm_> noUse, when i do apt-get it says cant find package
[07:23] <[[[sPeEd] > good evening...do you know how can i edit the my video card settings?
[07:23] <[LethAL] > [[[sPeEd] , resolution problems?
[07:23] <[[[sPeEd] > i use hoary
[07:23] <nerdy2> mshade, so it's useful :), but hopefully you can make gam_server behave [or install famd]  :)
[07:23] <NoUse> dm_ did you read the link I sent?
[07:23] <dm_> NoUse Yes
[07:23] <[[[sPeEd] > adapter, change driver
[07:23] <[LethAL] > [[[sPeEd] , eh?
[07:23] <mshade> nerdy2: switching to famd, would I need to recompile many of the gnome apps?
[07:24] <cybawurm> 7 days
[07:24] <logikal_> any of you guys use xchat?
[07:24] <ky0nce> Is anyone using apt-proxy on ubuntu? In particular is apt-proxy-import working? I get a no suitable backend error.
[07:24] <cybawurm> ^^
[07:24] <[[[sPeEd] > lethal, can i change the adapters? like vesa something? sorry im newbir
[07:24] <[LethAL] > logikal_, I certainly do
[07:24] <[LethAL] > [[[sPeEd] , Not quite sure what you mean...
[07:24] <NoUse> dm_ follow the instructions for Sun Java
[07:24] <[LethAL] > Still
[07:24] <nerdy2> mshade, i think you shouldn't  (there's a limfam which comes with both gamin, and famd, and the apps just dynamically link it, so ld does all the work)
[07:24] <logikal_> ?
[07:25] <dm_> NoUse,  tahts installing as we speak
[07:25] <logikal_> Im adjusting my colors
[07:25] <logikal_> I like a black background
[07:25] <nerdy2> mshade, libfam, not limfam, obviously :)
[07:25] <logikal_> Hmm
[07:25] <mshade> nerdy2: alright then
[07:25] <[[[sPeEd] > [LethAL] , id like to change the video mode to vesa???
[07:25] <logikal_> How do I change MY text color?
[07:26] <dm_> NoUse im installing java because i cant seem to see text on some websites, Is not having java that problem??
[07:26] <vbgunz_> lethal, I found this on the mozdev.org site, this looks perfectly genious, http://passwordmaker.org/ do you use this or another password manager?
[07:26] <nalioth> [[[sPeEd] : open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" adn choose the VESA driver
[07:26] <[LethAL] > vbgunz_, I don't bothere with a password manager, I have a good enough memory
[07:26] <vbgunz_> lethal, do you have a recommendation I guess i am asking
[07:27] <vbgunz_> lethal, ahh, you have a brain, good ;)
[07:27] <mshade> nerdy2: so pardon my ignorance, but what would be the difference between poll and notify settings for gamin?
[07:27] <[LethAL] > vbgunz_, no I don't
[07:27] <logikal_> guys
[07:27] <logikal_> How do i get to the console?
[07:27] <[LethAL] > vbgunz_, sudo /etc/init.d/brain [failed]
[07:27] <logikal_> lol
[07:27] <logikal_> Im a KDE user..
[07:28] <n00bster> hi all, What  Norton Ghost Vertion Can Backup ext3 Partition? (I trayed  7, dident worked)
[07:28] <dm_> Does anyone have the problem of not seeing text on some websites ?????
[07:28] <[LethAL] > logikal_, It's canlled konsole
[07:28] <[LethAL] > called*
[07:28] <logikal_> where is it?
[07:28] <vbgunz_> Norton Ghost 9 can backup EXT3 from Windows
[07:28] <[LethAL] > logikal_, system iirc
[07:28] <n00bster> OK, Dos It Have A GHOST.EXE Small File That I Can Boot From Floppy ?
[07:28] <nerdy2> mshade, poll would use the poll(2) system call : this has a few drawbacks, one being you have to have an open fd [which means you may hit the fd limit if it's not high]
[07:29] <Shin_Gouki> hi which script/shell language would be probably best for customizing startup ubuntu?
[07:29] <florian> is it possible to calculate 3/4 in the shell?
[07:29] <[LethAL] > florian, bc -l
[07:29] <dmlinux> hey guys, i installed flash the other day,  and now i cant see TEXT  on some websites...?? Any ideas
[07:29] <florian> thanx ;=
[07:29] <vbgunz_> n00bster: Ghost 9 is based on something other than Ghost... Symantec blew out booting from floppy but it Ghost no longer works like it use too
[07:29] <nerdy2> mshade, notify would use the kernel notification interface ...  there was an older one called dnotify, which also had some issues, and the newer one called inotify which is better [no open fd's, you can get finer grained control, it's really neat]
[07:29] <vbgunz_> I believe the new Ghost is based on DriveImage or something like it
[07:30] <mshade> nerdy2: hmm ok
[07:30] <nerdy2> mshade, so presumably notify would use either dnotify or inotify [preferring inotify] , whichever is present
[07:30] <phaer> PHP tells me "Fatal error: Call to undefined function: start_session() in /var/www/index.php on line 11", on my ubuntusystem, but it works well on FreeBSD, so i think there's an extra package needed for php-sessions, do you know which one?
[07:31] <NoUse> dmlinux try installing gsfonts gsfonts-x11 and msttcorefonts
[07:31] <Seveas> phaer, #php and it's session_start()
[07:31] <mshade> nerdy2: according to my config, both are enabled -- i just added a 'notify /share/*'
[07:31] <dmlinux> NoUse, the apt get?
[07:31] <luite> n00bster: it's now based on driveimage, if you are familiar with that, you know what you can expect
[07:31] <mshade> nerdy2: rule to .gaminrc -- so let's see if that helps
[07:31] <NoUse> dmlinux yeah use apt-get or synaptic
[07:31] <phaer> Seveas: O_o thanks...
[07:31] <mshade> nerdy2: you were mentioning a kernel /dev/inotify device needs to be enabled ..
[07:31] <logikal_> Lol
[07:32] <logikal_> I still cant find the konsole
[07:32] <nerdy2> mshade, to get inotify working, it first has to be compiled in to the kernel [that's fine with the stock one] , and then it has to be enabled [i dunno if this happens by default, but passing the boot option "inotify" will work, you can check dmesg to see if you get a message saying inotify's enabled]  and you have to have /dev/inotify   (mknod /dev/inotify c 10 63)
[07:32] <florian> is there also a possibility to round a real number?
[07:32] <cevizoglu>  does anyone know a good wiki or web page/doc on burn-in on a xserver before putting it to use?
[07:32] <cevizoglu> er, I mean server
[07:32] <Shin_Gouki> hi which script/shell language would be probably best for customizing startup ubuntu?
[07:32] <logikal_> wow , 463 updates
[07:32] <dmlinux> NoUse do you think that is my problem?
[07:32] <nerdy2> mshade, then the inotify file notification just works by doing ioctl's on /dev/inotify as far as i understand it
[07:33] <NoUse> dmlinux I remember having a similar problem and that solved it
[07:34] <mshade> nerdy2: what should permissions on /dev/inotify be
[07:34] <nerdy2> mshade, that's a good q, just a sec :)
[07:35] <dmlinux> NoUse do i need to restart X?
[07:36] <[[[sPeEd] > wow thanks [LethAL]
[07:36] <[LethAL] > ?
[07:36] <LokeDK> will upgrade to breezy skrew up my wireless settings?
[07:36] <dmlinux> NoUse sweet that fixed it Thanks man !!
[07:37] <florian> is there a possibility to round a real number in the shell?
[07:37] <vbgunz_> LokeDK, imho, Breezy has better support for wireless connections... *but* be wary I suppose...
[07:37] <anivair> LokeDK: hard to say.  It seems almost anyhting can screw a wireless setting up anymore.
[07:37] <Shin_Gouki> florian can u use C?
[07:37] <florian> i never tried..
[07:37] <LokeDK> Oh okay.. well I'll take the chance
[07:38] <NoUse> dmlinux no prob
[07:38] <logikal_> Could someone tell me where i can find the Konsole ? lol
[07:38] <anivair> I think it's worth the chance, personally
[07:38] <nerdy2> mshade, you only need to be able to open /dev/inotify readonly, so 644 is fine
[07:39] <antisocialboris> how do i set up dc++?
[07:39] <mshade> nerdy2: thanks
[07:39] <[[[sPeEd] > is samba the same as nfs when it comes to network file sharing?
[07:40] <nerdy2> mshade, if you are curious, i found this site http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-inotify.html
[07:40] <mshade> [[[sPeEd] : no, there are a couple of differences
[07:40] <[[[sPeEd] > mshade, like?
[07:40] <LokeDK> where's breezy backports?
[07:40] <mshade> [[[sPeEd] : for example, you can export multiple mountpoints under nfs as 1 share -- you have to use separate shares for separate mount points.  with samba, the entire tree can be exported
[07:40] <mshade> [[[sPeEd] : that's one example.
[07:40] <mshade> [[[sPeEd] : nfs tends to be more efficient
[07:41] <silent_scream> I have a prob with point to play: i mount the cd and I click on the istall button and nothing happens
[07:41] <[[[sPeEd] > oh ok so nfs is better than samba
[07:41] <[[[sPeEd] > thanks
[07:41] <mshade> [[[sPeEd] : nfs is easier to deal with on *nix boxes
[07:41] <mshade> [[[sPeEd] : on my fileserver, i run both samba and nfs.. nfs for the *nix clients and samba for the windows clients, though *nix could use either
[07:41] <[[[sPeEd] > mshade, can it share it windows network?
[07:42] <mshade> [[[sPeEd] : nfs, not natively.  smb, yes
[07:42] <[[[sPeEd] > mshade, oh ok
[07:42] <mshade> [[[sPeEd] : i think there are ways to get nfs to share to windows, but samba is much easier
[07:42] <antisocialboris> anyone know anything about dc++?
[07:42] <mshade> brb all
[07:43] <erUSUL> mshade: install sfu (free from m$) and win can mount nfs shares
[07:43] <[[[sPeEd] > mshade, thanks, im really having trouble to see the files in windows....there's this one time that when i accessed hoary, it asked for a password
[07:44] <pc22> do linux have virus/worm threats?
[07:44] <Chousuke> No.
[07:44] <anivair> not really
[07:44] <anivair> rather: very few
[07:44] <Chousuke> none active :/
[07:44] <anivair> it's really hard to write viruses for linux due to root permissions
[07:44] <pc22> im curious
[07:44] <anivair> among other things
[07:44] <[[[sPeEd] > so there's still some virus on linux?
[07:45] <anivair> none that I know of
[07:45] <Chousuke> [[[sPeEd] : it's old. and dead.
[07:45] <anivair> there have been in the past (very few) and I suspect there will be some in the future, but I don't think there are any out now
[07:45] <Chousuke> Except you can still propagate windows viruses if you accidentally send infected files via mail
[07:45] <Chousuke> I think linux has had maybe a dozen worms and viruses.
[07:46] <anivair> anyone can propogate a windows virus if they send it as an attachment
[07:46] <samu2> Gah, my cdrom drive is locked...
[07:46] <Chousuke> yeah
[07:46] <[[[sPeEd] > does linux have antivirus?
[07:46] <Chousuke> yes
[07:46] <Chousuke> for windows viruses.
[07:46] <anivair> but don't mistake that for linux being able to "have" a virus to which is is immune and then "spread" that virus around.  I heard that the other day and it's hogwash
[07:46] <[[[sPeEd] > what do you mean>
[07:46] <Chousuke> that dozen is not much compared to the few hundred thousand that exist for windows
[07:47] <silent_scream> is anybody  occupied with cedega or point2play?
[07:47] <samu2> I accidentally found a command called eject.
[07:47] <anivair> linux has programs that strip windows viruses out of email and things so you can't spread them unknowingly through mail
[07:47] <mshade> anivair: the only way *nix could spread a win virus is probably by acting as a fileserver to the virus.. meaning a windows binary on a fileserver being infected
[07:47] <Chousuke> [[[sPeEd] : It's installed on servers, to filter windows viruses out of mail, mostly.
[07:47] <zack_> anivair, just keep your system updated u shouldnt have any problems
[07:47] <Chousuke> and oh!
[07:47] <samu2> But it says cdrom0 is busy...
[07:47] <Chousuke> you can install some viruses in WINE!
[07:47] <[[[sPeEd] > oh ok
[07:48] <samu2> How can I found out whats locking up my cdrom?
[07:48] <zack_> i suggest updating ubuntu once a week.. for proformance increases
[07:48] <anivair> agreed . . . but hearing someone talking about colmputer viruses like they were physical viruses the other day made me almost choke.  I just wanted to clarrify that that isn't the case before people get to talking
[07:48] <Chousuke> But installing the viruses is difficult, and they rarely work :(
[07:48] <mshade> samu2: if you're in the cdrom's directory, or have a file manager open to it, it's 'busy'
[07:48] <logikal_> You guys have a theme site you like?
[07:48] <logikal_> for ubuntu?
[07:48] <mshade> samu2: leave the directory or close the file manager and try 'eject' again
[07:48] <[[[sPeEd] > gotta go
[07:48] <[[[sPeEd] > c ya
[07:48] <[[[sPeEd] > thanks guys
[07:48] <anivair> have you unmounted your cdrom before ejecting it?
[07:48] <Chousuke> zack_: after the stable is out, it doesn't hurt to check for updates every day.
[07:48] <_bodhi_> hi
[07:48] <vbgunz_> logikal_: You didn't like www.gnome-look.org or www.gnome.org?
[07:48] <anivair> you can't be in that directory or using it
[07:48] <Ofe> samu2: go to root-terminal and type /eject or eject. worked with me.
[07:48] <mshade> anivair: eject will unmount it for you.
[07:49] <logikal_> well
[07:49] <logikal_> let me try gnome.org
[07:49] <anivair> really?  did not know that
[07:49] <samu2> Ok, now it just worked suddenly.
[07:49] <anivair> then likely he was in that directory
[07:49] <mshade> samu2: sometimes nautilus will keep it open after it's closed for a little bit
[07:49] <anivair> oops . . . woirk now
[07:49] <mshade> yeah, sometimes there's a bit of lag
[07:49] <zack_> what was that one virus that was out not to long ago
[07:49] <boxman> the thing randomly freezes up when i for example drag and drop a file to another program like xmms..
[07:49] <_bodhi_> any1 out there can tell me how I can get my Epia M10000 TV-Out (SVideo port) working with 5.04 and 5.10
[07:49] <zack_> it had to do with bitch chat and phpbb
[07:49] <Chousuke> boxman: sounds serious.
[07:49] <logikal_> I really need to fix my resoultion first, but I can't find the Konsole....
[07:50] <boxman> the gfx card/xorg locks completly with the exception of mouse pointer
[07:50] <boxman> while other things goes on..
[07:50] <vbgunz_> logikal, I have a beautiful theme comprised from theme parts of both sites... I couldn't use anyone site to come up with a theme I thought was really nice...
[07:50] <boxman> i can login in using ssh, but killing xorg dosent do a shit
[07:50] <boxman> reset=only option :(
[07:50] <Chousuke> boxman: what display driver do you use?
[07:50] <boxman> the nvidia ones on apt
[07:50] <mshade> boxman: try init 1 and then init 5
[07:50] <boxman> breeze
[07:50] <Chousuke> if it's ati or nvidia binary drivers, they might be causing trouble.
[07:50] <boxman> 7667 i think
[07:51] <Chousuke> Binary drivers are evil
[07:51] <boxman> but i used those drivers under debian linux as well, without those problems.
[07:51] <Chousuke> if they were open source, some helpful ubuntu dev could fix it :(
[07:51] <boxman> i have a bigger feeling it has something to do with x.org :\
[07:51] <Chousuke> boxman: running the exact same version of x.org and kernel? :P
[07:52] <Chousuke> the binary drivers may conflict with either.
[07:52] <boxman> well, i havent done anything to the kernel or xorg since i installed it.
[07:52] <zack_> boxman, why not get the latest nvidia drivers from there site?
[07:52] <boxman> zack_, you think that will make a difference?
[07:53] <rsk> howdy everyone
[07:53] <boxman> i know i used this exact same version under debian without these problems.
[07:53] <logikal__> hey guys
[07:53] <boxman> though that was downloaded from nvidia.com
[07:53] <logikal__> Where is the Konsole in this thing?
[07:53] <boxman> but i doubt that should make much of a difference?
[07:53] <zack_> they are more stable and are alot better in games... around the same as the windows drivers they make
[07:53] <rsk> Noob question of the hour: I just installed postgresql 8.0 and pgadmin3, any idea what the default login is to the DB? (postgres w/o pass is not working)
[07:53] <nalioth> anyone familiar with ntfsresize?
[07:54] <boxman> so they are diffrent from those on apt? even though it is the same version?
[07:54] <vbgunz_> logikal_ are you on Ubuntu or Kubuntu? If Ubuntu are you looking for the terminal?
[07:54] <zack_> apt drivers are often old
[07:54] <logikal_> yes
[07:54] <logikal_> the terminal
[07:54] <logikal_> where shall it be
[07:54] <logikal_> Im on Ubuntu
[07:54] <logikal_> the newest release
[07:54] <logikal_> 5/10
[07:54] <logikal_> 5.10
[07:54] <sexcopter8000m> ok in firefox i'm getting that "current user profile is in use" business, anyone know how to fix it?
[07:55] <vbgunz_> under accessories or system tools I believe... for left menu option on the panel
[07:55] <logikal_> under accessories
[07:55] <logikal_> there it is
[07:55] <logikal_> thanks
[07:55] <logikal_> :)
[07:55] <vbgunz_> ;)
[07:55] <zack_> wow couldnt u have searched for that ur self?
[07:58] <bpf> sexcopter8000m, sounds like there is still a firefox process running
[07:58] <bpf> try ps -ef |grep firefox
[07:58] <wezzer> kill -9 firefox-bin
[07:59] <jkrogh> I have a Breezy system.. today I've had several firefox crashes. Is firefox rock-solid on your breezy-systems?
[08:00] <sexcopter8000m> yes there is bpf, isn't there some command like "killall" that i need?
[08:00] <Secreth`X> anyone familiar with ntfsresize?
[08:01] <djohngo> jkrogh: I've had some firefox crashes on breezy.  I think it had to do with plugins.
[08:02] <sexcopter8000m> hmmm, "killall firefox" returns "no process killed"...
[08:02] <jkrogh> sexcopter8000m: try firefox-bin
[08:03] <sexcopter8000m> wikkid bad, sorted, cheers :)
[08:03] <Shin_Gouki> hi anyone knows why : apt-get install xmms-openspc  fails with my system?
[08:03] <Shin_Gouki> where doi find my sources .list?
[08:03] <_air_forces> nasss
[08:04] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: /etc/apt/
[08:05] <Secreth`X> anyone familiar with ntfsresize?
[08:05] <zack_> jkrogh, i still get firefox crashes
[08:05] <logikal_> can someone give me that fixres link again?
[08:05] <logikal_> my res is still low
[08:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell logikal_ about fixres
[08:06] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, i tried to type:  apt-get install xmms-openspc but it said unknown pkg, then the said on xmms channel : looks like ubuntu dont have it in the repositories , ideas?
[08:07] <zack_> Shin_Gouki, try going thru symatic and running a search
[08:07] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: compile it
[08:07] <crimsun> Shin_Gouki: that's because it doesn't exist in the Ubuntu repo.
[08:07] <Shin_Gouki> zack_ is this shell prog?, thx!!
[08:07] <djohngo> Secreth`X: I've used ntfsresize twice, and hosed the drive both times. ;)
[08:07] <zack_> just search for xmms u should find serveral downloads
[08:08] <antisocialboris> what is cvs?
[08:08] <zack_> make sure u add repositories and update them
[08:08] <Shin_Gouki> somthing evil
[08:08] <crimsun> Secreth`X: don't have access to a parted frontend?
[08:08] <Shin_Gouki> zack_ whats the command for symantic?
[08:08] <Shin_Gouki> zack_ i only have shell
[08:08] <Secreth`X> erm
[08:08] <Shin_Gouki> zack_ i only have shell or icewm
[08:08] <egoleo> i need ftp client
[08:09] <Secreth`X> I resized so there was 20 gig blank space
[08:09] <egoleo> a graphical ftp client
[08:09] <Shin_Gouki> egoleo, go to shell type ftp
[08:09] <Shin_Gouki> oh
[08:09] <benplaut> anyone having a problemw ith huge fonts this morning
[08:09] <Secreth`X> but nor linux nor windows detects that 20 gig of blank space
[08:09] <daved> very nice installer guys
[08:09] <egoleo> i dont want command line
[08:09] <benplaut> dunno what the heck happened, but...
[08:09] <nalioth> drazQ: crimsun: we havent hosed the partition yet
[08:09] <egoleo> ok
[08:09] <daved> that was incredibly painless
[08:10] <antisocialboris> im having problems with apt-get update, can anyone help?
[08:10] <zack_> sudo synaptic
[08:10] <djohngo> Secreth`X: did you run some form of fdisk after ntfsresize?
[08:10] <nalioth> djohngo: how would fdisk be used afterwards?
[08:11] <egoleo> any ftp GUI
[08:11] <egoleo> any GUI ftp client
[08:11] <zack_> antisocialboris, are you using GDE or KDE or xfce?
[08:11] <nalioth> egoleo: gftp
[08:11] <deFrysk> egoleo, gftp
[08:11] <djohngo> nalioth: the way I understand it, you have to rewrite the partition table after you free up the space.
[08:11] <egoleo> mine crashes
[08:12] <egoleo> so i need a new one
[08:12] <djohngo> naloith: like I said, though.  I botched it up both times I tried it.
[08:12] <egoleo> my gftp crashes so i need a new one
[08:12] <nalioth> egoleo: kftpgrabber
[08:12] <egoleo> apart from gftp
[08:12] <BiSK-8> hello
[08:12] <lucaas> gftp segfaults lots for me too
[08:12] <nalioth> djohngo: that is the part that has lost me
[08:12] <lucaas> i use lftp now (console based)
[08:12] <egoleo> is it for kde?
[08:12] <BiSK-8> whats a good program that i can get through apt-get that will let me open rar files?
[08:13] <daved> BiSK-8: rar
[08:13] <nalioth> BiSK-8: unrar-nonfree
[08:13] <bpf> unrar
[08:13] <gsuveg> re
[08:13] <logikal_> How do i save a txt file im working on in terminal?
[08:13] <BiSK-8> daved, nalioth: thanks
[08:13] <lucaas> logikal_, in what editor?
[08:13] <lucaas> or are you just typing in the terminal?
[08:13] <deFrysk> in nano crtl-x
[08:13] <logikal_> yeah i got it
[08:14] <logikal_> it asked me about it
[08:14] <logikal_> I never used nano before..
[08:14] <deFrysk> nano is a handy dandy editor
[08:14] <logikal_> BRB
[08:14] <logikal_> hope it works dude.
[08:14] <rob^^^> how usefil is a tivo without a subscription?
[08:14] <lucaas> indeed
[08:14] <rob^^^> err useful
[08:15] <boxman> well, installing nvidia drivers using the official installer is easier said than done... it complains about gcc on system being 4.x, while the kernel was compiled using 3.x :(
[08:15] <zack_> gahhh that logikal guy was anoying
[08:15] <zack_> i hate people that dont try looking before asking
[08:15] <logikal_> Ok
[08:15] <logikal_> all that did was up my refresh rate
[08:15] <deFrysk> zack_, some dont know where to look
[08:15] <logikal_> I sitll dont have the desired resolution
[08:16] <boxman> any suggestion for what to try now?
[08:16] <zack_> some don't need to be here if they are lazy
[08:16] <crimsun> boxman: so install build-essential and gcc-3.4
[08:16] <johnnythunders> i'm trying to play mp3's off my ntfs partition in breezy.  file says
[08:16] <crimsun> boxman: then export CC=gcc-3.4
[08:16] <johnnythunders> MP3 file with ID3 version 2.3.0 tag
[08:16] <BiSK-8> daved, nalioth:  it says that there r already installed but how can a ipackage a rar file? when i double click the files icon it says that its a not supported file type
[08:16] <Seveas> !tell johnnythunders about mp3
[08:16] <deFrysk> logikal_, I usually run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg use the default unless something needs to be adjusted
[08:17] <johnnythunders> yes please!
[08:17] <nalioth> BiSK-8: you want to rar something up?
[08:17] <nalioth> johnnythunders: check your private msgs
[08:17] <BiSK-8> nalioth, no, i want to unrar a file
[08:17] <boxman> let me try again..
[08:17] <Seveas> johnnythunders, ubotu yold you in a private message
[08:17] <Seveas> !tell johnnythunders about restricted
[08:17] <nalioth> BiSK-8: if you have unrar-nonfree, your ark or file-roller should unrar it (is it damaged?)
[08:17] <logikal_> Could someone PM me a list of monitor modes?
[08:17] <logikal_> like 600x800
[08:17] <logikal_>  a full listing
[08:17] <deFrysk> logikal_, read what I told you
[08:17] <zack_> lol
[08:17] <Kaparen> Two days in a row now my Abuntu have been working fine after applying the new Nvidia drivers but then not working OK the day after.
[08:18] <BiSK-8> naolioth, i dunno, who can i find out?
[08:18] <flask-> hi I'm using Hoary and when I use apps that use gtk-1.x (like xmms), the fonts are huge and grainy... how do I fix this? thanks. :)
[08:18] <logikal_> I did do that already
[08:18] <logikal_> Now im editing  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:18] <kris_> nows a polisch channel for ubuntu?
[08:18] <deFrysk> in that config prog you can see tons of settings for your screen
[08:18] <logikal_> well
[08:18] <kris_> anyone knows?
[08:19] <zack_> logikal_,  1024x728
[08:19] <logikal_> how do i select them
[08:19] <zack_> 1280x1024
[08:19] <zack_> ect...
[08:19] <deFrysk> with your spacebar
[08:19] <logikal_> Oh ok
[08:19] <logikal_> duhh
[08:19] <nalioth> BiSK-8: open another rar file and see
[08:19] <logikal_> sorry im a retard
[08:19] <BiSK-8> nalioth, what exactly do i gotta do to unrar the pkg with ark or unrar
[08:19] <deFrysk> and also unselect with your spacebar
[08:19] <djjason> I just installed apache2 and I need to add a scriptalias..do I add it to apache2.conf,,,since http.conf seems pretty empty and useless now
[08:19] <BiSK-8> nalioth, thats the prob, it wont open
[08:19] <deFrysk> logikal_, what inc does your screen have ?
[08:19] <deFrysk> inch
[08:19] <logikal_> 21
[08:19] <nalioth> BiSK-8: just clickig on it should open one of those, or you can right click and "open with"
[08:19] <kris_> anyone from poland? I need help...
[08:20] <logikal_> 21 sony trintron
[08:20] <deFrysk> logikal_, set is to 1600x1200
[08:20] <johnnythunders> very sorry, thanks seveas y ubotu
[08:20] <deFrysk> it*
[08:20] <mad_phoenix> does ubuntu use ld.so.conf?
[08:20] <logikal_> Ok well im going to run the config thing again
[08:20] <rsk> Does anyone here know the default password for the "postgres" user on Ubuntu 5.10?
[08:20] <rsk> (Post 8.0)
[08:20] <BiSK-8> nalioth, i double click and it says that its an unsupported file type, under open with which program should i select?
[08:20] <deFrysk> logical aso do a few "lower" settings in case it does not take
[08:21] <nalioth> BiSK-8: right click and select open with file-roller
[08:21] <kris_> jest tu ktos z polski?
[08:21] <deFrysk> its no prob to do 3 or 4 resolutions
[08:21] <[LethAL] > hm... maybe
[08:21] <[LethAL] > !pl
[08:21] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, [LethAL]
[08:21] <[LethAL] > Grr
[08:21] <deFrysk> !polska
[08:21] <ubotu> deFrysk: I give up, what is it?
[08:21] <mad_phoenix> im trying to run a script to build enlightenment 17, and it keeps saying it can't find ld.so.conf...i confirmed that i don't have it using locate.  is there a package that installs it?  I already have build-essentials, automake, libtool, etc...
[08:21] <zack_> his fault he didnt set it up when installing ubuntu
[08:21] <Kaparen> I get a ' Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)', how do I fix this?
[08:22] <kris_> I need help anyone knows a polish channel for ubuntu please?
[08:22] <BiSK-8> nalioth, there is no "file-roller"
[08:22] <nalioth> mad_phoenix: type "sudo apt-get build-dep enlightenment"
[08:22] <nalioth> BiSK-8: i'm sorry i'm so out of touch with gui things ( i do all my stuff in a console)
[08:22] <k_deft> hello, guys do you know how to make work usb ADSL modem?
[08:23] <nalioth> BiSK-8: "archive manager"
[08:23] <BiSK-8> nalioth, it says Tipo di archivio non supportato which means archive type not supported
[08:23] <BiSK-8> nalioth, how can i dpkg it through terminal?
[08:23] <logikal_> here  igo
[08:23] <logikal_> this shoulda worked
[08:23] <nalioth> BiSK-8: you seem to have trouble. Is unrar-nonfree installed?
[08:24] <BiSK-8> nalioth, yes it is
[08:24] <BiSK-8> im on breezy btw
[08:24] <BiSK-8> on  hoary it used 2 work
[08:24] <nalioth> BiSK-8: right click on the rar , select open with other application, and find
[08:24] <nalioth> "archive manager"
[08:25] <k_deft> hello, guys do you know how to make work usb ADSL modem?
[08:25] <pc22> how can i see my other ubuntu computer in the network
[08:25] <benplaut> i woke up this morning to huge, ugly fonts and a panel waaaayyyy too thick... any suggestions?
[08:25] <BiSK-8> nalioth, no archive manager
[08:26] <boxman> i installed gcc-3.4 and typed export gcc=3.4 and the nvidia driver still complained about the same thing..
[08:26] <benplaut> !font
[08:26] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, benplaut
[08:26] <zack_> benplaut, what DE ? Kde gde xfce
[08:26] <benplaut> bleh
[08:26] <benplaut> zack_: gnome
[08:26] <benplaut> breezy
[08:26] <logikal_> Wonderful!
[08:26] <logikal_> it worked
[08:26] <Nvidiot> boxman: uhm, just use the package? It's in apt-get...
[08:26] <logikal_> im in 1280x1024 :)
[08:27] <Nvidiot> logikal_: 1600x1200 here, on a 15" laptop :P
[08:27] <zack_> benplaut,  maybe ur reso changed?
[08:27] <benplaut> reso?
[08:27] <boxman> Nvidiot, i was suggested to try the official installer, as i am having stability troubles.
[08:27] <benplaut> oh
[08:27] <benplaut> no
[08:27] <logikal_> oh wow
[08:27] <benplaut> still at 1024x768
[08:27] <boxman> also the package in apt-get did not work with the newer driver
[08:27] <logikal_> you must have like 20x15 vision
[08:27] <Nvidiot> boxman: hmm, I saw something about a memory leak on a wiki the other day...
[08:27] <boxman> also the package in apt-get did not work with the newer kernel*
[08:28] <nalioth> BiSK-8: idk what to tell you, i have archive manager on my breezy(s)
[08:28] <logikal_> next task, Making the font in xChat bigger..
[08:28] <Nvidiot> logikal_: well, other people tend to complain that they can't read my screens lol. I love the space though :)
[08:28] <zack_> < 1024x768
[08:28] <logikal_> anything smaller then this, freaks me out
[08:28] <Nvidiot> boxman: I'm running the latest ubuntu here, WITH the latest nvidia driver and kernel. Works for me
[08:28] <boxman> the official nvidia driver wont build, because i have gcc4 installed while the linux kernel was built using 3.4
[08:28] <logikal_> I feel closterphobic
[08:28] <benplaut> it's only the fonts for the panel and gnome program's panels
[08:28] <Nvidiot> why do I get this? The following packages have been kept back: mplayer-386 ?
[08:29] <BiSK-8> nalioth, wait
[08:29] <BiSK-8> file roller isnt installed
[08:29] <Nvidiot> boxman: you could of course build the kernel with gcc4 ?
[08:29] <BiSK-8> where can i download it?
[08:29] <boxman> i really dont want to compile a kernel again now.. :\
[08:29] <lsuactiafner> logikal_ : press control alt + or -
[08:29] <nalioth> BiSK-8: where you d/l everything else, apt-get or synaptic
[08:29] <boxman> so you are saying it is not possible to use the kernels on apt?
[08:29] <lsuactiafner> the + or - at the far end of the keyboard
[08:30] <boxman> with the nvidia installer..
[08:30] <BiSK-8> nalioth, nope, it says that its not here..... i dunno
[08:30] <Nvidiot> boxman: slow system? Don't understand it though, I'm using the latest kernel and latest nvidia driver from apt, works fine for me
[08:30] <BiSK-8> nalioth, got a url?
[08:30] <logikal_> Ok
[08:30] <Alex_BO> HELLO men!i have a problem with some pdf.i use xpdf as the ubuntu 5.04 release.sometimes in some pdf, when i try to skip the page (for example from page 22 to page 23) it crash and it use the 100% of CPU and i have to kill it.is it a know bug?
[08:30] <logikal_> So now, I want to make my own txt a differnet color
[08:31] <pc22> hello
[08:31] <pc22> how can i see my other ubuntu computer in the network?
[08:31] <lsuactiafner> mad_phoenix : should be under /etc
[08:31] <nalioth> BiSK-8: you have serious trouble, my friend
[08:31] <Cryptid> How do i check how much RAM i got?
[08:31] <boxman> Nvidiot, random freezes when i do simple operations like drag and drop a file..
[08:31] <boxman> the gfx card freezes up completly
[08:31] <nalioth> BiSK-8: have you updated your system lately?
[08:31] <lsuactiafner>  /etc/ld.so.conf
[08:31] <BiSK-8> nalioth, is that all?
[08:31] <Kaparen> I've installed the Nvidia drivers in Ubuntu and now I get a  Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found) error when I startup. Anyone know how to fix this?
[08:31] <boxman> while rest of the system is still running
[08:31] <lsuactiafner> mad_phoenix : if you dont have it yoru system id screwed up very badly
[08:31] <BiSK-8> abt 4 days ago nalioth
[08:31] <mad_phoenix> lsuactiafner: it's not
[08:31] <mad_phoenix> lsuactiafner: im using 5.10, if that makes a difference
[08:31] <Nvidiot> boxman: I did read something about a memory leak on the ubuntu wiki the other day, when I was reading about hibernate
[08:31] <ompaul> BiSK-8, are you running gnome?
[08:31] <nalioth> BiSK-8: update it now
[08:32] <BiSK-8> yep
[08:32] <Nvidiot> Kaparen: did you use synaptic/apt to get the driver /
[08:32] <BiSK-8> i already am
[08:32] <BiSK-8> :P
[08:32] <mad_phoenix> and im pretty sure my system isn't borked because i compile my own programs i write very regularly with gcc/automake/libtool etc.
[08:32] <nalioth> BiSK-8: archive-manager is default and i dont see how you dont have it in your context menus
[08:32] <boxman> somoene here suggested that i try the one from nvidia site instead, but that seems impossible since the linux kernel i am running was compiled with a different gcc than this system has
[08:32] <mad_phoenix> i only have ld.so.cache under /etc
[08:32] <Alex_BO> halo?
[08:32] <BiSK-8> nalioth, i have it, but no unrar
[08:32] <BiSK-8> so ill update
[08:32] <boxman> someone told me to do a apt-get install gcc-3.4 and then type export gcc=3.4
[08:32] <Nvidiot> boxman: they indeed *have* to be compiled with the same compiler...
[08:32] <boxman> but that did not do anything
[08:32] <Cryptid> nalioth,How do i check how much RAM i got?
[08:32] <Kaparen> no I downloaded it from Nvidia site and manually installed it #dri, 'nvidia' just like in the wiki guide
[08:32] <nalioth> BiSK-8: install "unrar-nonfree"
[08:32] <Ubunti_Ki> Im thinking of getting som repositories for my 5.10, can I get those in ubuntuguide.org or does those only work for 5.04 ?
[08:33] <boxman> i really wonder why the kernels on apt is compiled with a different gcc :X
[08:33] <BiSK-8> nalioth, and if worst comes to worst transfer it to my hoary hdd and dpkg it
[08:33] <Ofe> hm. I want to edit "/etc/ppp/peers/provider" how do I do that as root? type "edit /etc/ppp/peers/provider"?
[08:33] <nalioth> Ubunti_Ki: ubuntuguide.org will kill your box
[08:33] <logikal_> How do I change the color of "MY txt" in xchat
[08:33] <kbrooks> yay.
[08:33] <Nvidiot> Kaparen: easier to grab it from synaptic. That works great for me :)
[08:33] <boxman> they seem pretty unusable then
[08:33] <mad_phoenix> Ubunti_Ki: just switch all of the "hoary" entries to "breezy"
[08:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Ubunti_Ki about sources
[08:33] <kbrooks> 5.04 rc is out
[08:33] <boxman> if i cant compile stuff
[08:33] <Nvidiot> Ofe: sudo gedit /etc/ppp/peers/provider
[08:33] <Ubunti_Ki> thanx, thats it?
[08:33] <BiSK-8> thx man
[08:33] <kbrooks> now i have to wait ...
[08:33] <Kaparen> Nvidiot: Did you have the same problem before you got it from Synaptic?
[08:33] <BiSK-8> cya
[08:33] <mad_phoenix> Ubunti_Ki: yup
[08:33] <BiSK-8> g2g
[08:33] <kbrooks> Ubunti_Ki: wait
[08:33] <Ofe> Nvidiot: thanks. So I was missing gedit
[08:33] <mad_phoenix> Ubunti_Ki: and don't bother with the backports
[08:33] <kbrooks> read the bot's reply
[08:34] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, openspc is bad to me it says:
[08:34] <Cryptid> nalioth ,How do i check how much RAM i got?
[08:34] <Nvidiot> Kaparen: I get everything I can from synaptic, much surer way, that way I can easily keep up with updates etc
[08:34] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: no pasting
[08:34] <Kaparen> Nvidiot: I dont even know what Synaptic is?!
[08:35] <nalioth> Cryptid: lshw
[08:35] <zack_> synaptic owns
[08:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Kaparen about synaptic
[08:35] <Nvidiot> Kaparen: system -> administration -> synaptic package manager
[08:35] <Cryptid> nalioth, wat??? wats that?
[08:35] <zack_> sudo synaptic in console
[08:35] <boxman> Nvidiot boxman: I did read something about a memory leak on the ubuntu wiki the other day, when I was reading about hibernate <--- what was the solution?
[08:35] <boxman> if there was any.. :P
[08:35] <mad_phoenix> So does anybody have an idea of why my breezy install doesn't have ld.so.conf?
[08:35] <Cryptid> nalioth, oh ok i got it thanx
[08:35] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, i know thats why here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2823
[08:35] <Nvidiot> boxman: disabling some option, I vaguely recall 'option noaccel' or something to that effect
[08:35] <nalioth> Cryptid: open a terminal and type lshw
[08:36] <boxman> :\
[08:36] <boxman> i know i have renderaccl activated..
[08:36] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: type "sudo apt-get build-dep xmms"
[08:36] <kbrooks> ew usb 1
[08:37] <Ubunti_Ki> kbrooks, what was it that you wanted to say?
[08:37] <Nvidiot> boxman: that said, I don't know how old the wiki was, it said I should set some options and then hibernate would work. It doesn't. Hardware compatibility list says it should work
[08:37] <kbrooks> thats awfully old for a hp printer
[08:37] <boxman> Option "RenderAccel" "true"
[08:37] <boxman> ok
[08:37] <Nvidiot> boxman: try with that on false... see if it fixes the crashing
[08:37] <logikal_> Ok guys, how do i mount my windows partitions
[08:37] <boxman> i know i did not have this problem using debian and the same version of driver
[08:37] <kbrooks> Ubunti_Ki: forget about the backports. do not use marillat (forewarning for the future)
[08:37] <thrice`> !windows
[08:37] <ubotu> rumour has it, windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[08:38] <Thirsteh> what's the cli command to toggle whether an init process starts or not, in ubuntu?
[08:38] <thrice`> er...
[08:38] <logikal_> wine is a good one?
[08:38] <Kaparen> Nvidiot: So I should 'box' all the nvidia choices?
[08:38] <thrice`> you can chmod -x a startup script
[08:38] <Thirsteh> logikal_, for non-directx apps yeah
[08:38] <logikal_> I heard wine is pretty popular..
[08:38] <pal> hi i need help with apt, where is the link to configure apt?
[08:38] <logikal_> what's the one you guys would suggest?
[08:38] <Thirsteh> thrice`, I'm talking about runlevel scripts
[08:38] <kbrooks> theres a winegcc too
[08:38] <thrice`> Thirsteh, and? ?
[08:39] <Thirsteh> thrice`, like, I installed Webmin, how do I toggle if it starts on boot, isn't there a command instead of having to move files from rc.X dirs?
[08:39] <Ubunti_Ki> Ok, I just change "hoary" to "breezy" and don't care about nothing else?
[08:39] <sorush20> how can I get all my applications to use kde open/save dialogues rather than gnome...
[08:39] <thrice`> should be in /etc/inti.d I would guess
[08:39] <Nvidiot> Kaparen: nvidia-glx, that should automatically grab the other things as well
[08:39] <Thirsteh> thrice`, you're obviously not getting my point at all
[08:40] <pal> hi i need help with apt, where is the link to configure apt?
[08:40] <thrice`> Thirsteh, that init scripts are called from that dir as exec. files?
[08:40] <Kaparen> Nvidiot: Thanks man! I'll try it now!
[08:40] <Nvidiot> pal: use synaptic
[08:40] <thrice`> and chmod -x'ing will not allow them to startup ?
[08:40] <Ubunti_Ki> kbrooks, Ok, I just change "hoary" to "breezy" and don't care about nothing else?
[08:40] <Cryptid> nalioth, wat is Vmware and can i use it to run some video converting software which was originally made for windows
[08:40] <logikal_> does ubuntu come with wine?
[08:40] <Nvidiot> Ubunti_Ki: read the wiki on how to upgrade. It's almost as simple as that. ALMOST
[08:40] <pal> what is synaptic
[08:40] <benplaut> ok, figured out more
[08:40] <thrice`> logikal_, what do you need it for ?
[08:40] <nalioth> Ubunti_Ki: that's the first step
[08:40] <Nvidiot> pal: system -> administration -> synaptic package manager
[08:40] <[LethAL] > logikal_, no, in repos though
[08:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pal about synaptic
[08:41] <logikal_> to look at porn videos :)
[08:41] <logikal_> to get my txt files and such over here for school
[08:41] <Nvidiot> logikal_: just want the w32codecs for that :P
[08:41] <kbrooks> Ubunti_Ki: in sources.list (and in synaptic), yes
[08:41] <benplaut> fonts i select using the Gnome font util don't work. it defaults to who-knows-what, and i have no idea how to fix them manually. Suggestions?
[08:41] <Kaparen> hmmm installed version is the latest version. Should I reinstall
[08:41] <Ubunti_Ki> are there many steps? =)
[08:42] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, its finished...what now?
[08:42] <kbrooks> Ubunti_Ki: 3 in both
[08:42] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: try your build again
[08:42] <Ofe> umm.. what's the problem. I type stty in root-terminal, then change connection speed to 115200 with command stty 115200. Then I close root terminal and reopen it, stty says connection speed is 38400.
[08:42] <Ubunti_Ki> OK? :P
[08:42] <nalioth> Ubunti_Ki: read the /topic and follow the wiki
[08:43] <kbrooks> Yeah...
[08:43] <Ubunti_Ki> wiki where? sorry to disturb but im a noobie
[08:43] <kbrooks> Ubunti_Ki: wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:43] <Ubunti_Ki> thanks
[08:43] <kbrooks> Ubunti_Ki: /topic
[08:43] <kbrooks> read it.
[08:43] <darkheart> Ofe Never used that before, but sounds like that value needs to be set in a config file for it to be present everytime you stty
[08:44] <kbrooks> second from last item has the link
[08:44] <kbrooks> nalioth: if only people actually read the topic, oh well
[08:45] <Ofe> ok darkheart. thanks. I'll try to find the file
[08:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Ubunti_Ki about upgrade2breezy
[08:45] <mad_phoenix> When I run ldconfig -v it spits out tons of information about the libraries it's adding to the cache, but I still don't have an ld.so.conf file.  I do have ld.so.cache in /etc, but that's it.  Do I have to manually create ld.so.conf?
[08:45] <Skid> hm
[08:45] <nalioth> who took out the factoid?
[08:46] <nalioth> !upgrade2breezy
[08:46] <ubotu> nalioth: I give up, what is it?
[08:46] <nalioth> WHO removed the factoid?
[08:46] <kbrooks> nalioth: I don't know
[08:46] <Ubunti_Ki> Not good?
[08:47] <benplaut> w00t
[08:47] <benplaut> just like i thought, KDE was getting in the way :D
[08:47] <nalioth> Ubunti_Ki: ubotu is here to save us time and typing
[08:47] <[LethAL] > ubotu, upgrade2breezy is <reply> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:47] <ubotu> okay, [LethAL]
[08:47] <[LethAL] > !upgrade2breezy
[08:47] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:47] <[LethAL] > :D
[08:47] <Sonny_Wertzik> does nayone here use superkaramba?
[08:47] <logikal_> Ok im having a problem
[08:47] <logikal_> I cant find wine in the synaptic
[08:47] <logikal_> I added some repositorys
[08:48] <[LethAL] > logikal_, it's in universe iirc
[08:48] <[LethAL] > !info wine
[08:48] <ubotu> wine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB
[08:48] <Ubunti_Ki> Oh thanx very much "ubotu" & "nalioth"
[08:48] <logikal_> oh ok
[08:48] <[LethAL] > ubotu isn't a person
[08:48] <ubotu> [LethAL] : Do they come in packets of five?
[08:48] <logikal_> it's in universe
[08:48] <logikal_> thanks you.
[08:48] <antisocialboris> my apt-get update went crazy
[08:48] <sorush20> guys I'm trying to get rid of extra and wrong kernels off my system how can I do that..
[08:48] <[LethAL] > sorush20, via synaptic or any apt-get frontend
[08:48] <mad_phoenix> sorush20: delete them from your boot directory
[08:49] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Ubunti_Ki about upgrade2breezy
[08:49] <Nvidiot> mad_phoenix: don't do that... use apt!
[08:49] <nalioth> something fishy goin on here
[08:49] <pal> ubontu: tell pal about ubuntu
[08:49] <[LethAL] > nalioth, why?
[08:49] <mad_phoenix> Nvidiot: why?  removing from /boot and editing menu.lst achieves the same thing
[08:49] <kbrooks> pal: No. /msg the bot
[08:49] <Nvidiot> why do I get this? The following packages have been kept back: mplayer-386 ?
[08:49] <pal> ubontu: tell pal about ubontu
[08:49] <Nvidiot> mad_phoenix: is apt smart enough to figure out that you removed it when you run it next time ?
[08:50] <nalioth> Ubunti_Ki: read your priv msgs
[08:50] <Sonny_Wertzik> does nayone here use superkaramba?
[08:50] <Thirsteh> Any idea when Breezy will be "finished" up?
[08:50] <nalioth> pal: read your priv msgs
[08:50] <pal> sorry
[08:50] <nalioth> Thirsteh: oct 13
[08:50] <mad_phoenix> Nvidiot:  why does it have to?  If I'm keeping the latest version and deleting old ones it won't install anything new.
[08:50] <Thirsteh> nalioth, awesome, that's soon
[08:51] <Nvidiot> mad_phoenix: well, I don't want this huge list of old kernels I installed a long time ago when I fire up synaptic :)
[08:51] <mad_phoenix> Nvidiot: although apt is equally valid and probably easier, i just like doing things manually :)
[08:51] <Ubunti_Ki> I see, thanks agains, a lot. Both nalioth and unotu!
[08:51] <antisocialboris> my apt-get update has problems connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:51] <Nvidiot> antisocialboris: pick another mirror then?
[08:51] <Ubunti_Ki> brb........             .....     ..
[08:51] <mad_phoenix> Nvidiot: ya, i just use apt so it's not an issue
[08:51] <bibe> hi all! I have just installed Ubuntu 5.10-rc on my desktop pc!
[08:51] <[LethAL] > Nvidiot, antisocialboris, gb. is fine...
[08:51] <sorush20> is there a way that I can find out what packages have never been using on my computer so that I can remove them form my computer
[08:51] <antisocialboris> how do i change it?
[08:52] <antisocialboris> so why are things going wrong if its fine?
[08:52] <robsta> hi, does anyone know of a firefox 1.5 src deb (ppc deb would be even better)?
[08:52] <logikal_> OK, I installed the wine-doc where does it install to?
[08:52] <[LethAL] > /usr/doc probably
[08:52] <thrice`> logikal_, you don't need wine to mount windows drives
[08:52] <bris> slt
[08:52] <logikal_> well
[08:52] <logikal_> can someone tell me how to mount windows drives please :)
[08:52] <bibe> how can I use multimedia extensions (w32codecs and libdvdcss2, most of all) with Breezy?
[08:52] <[LethAL] > !tell logikal_ about windowsdrives
[08:53] <antisocialboris> im trying to set up dc++, would it just be easier to get wine and run it through that?
[08:53] <Nvidiot> bibe: see the RestrictedFormats wiki
[08:53] <mad_phoenix> logikal:  mount -t ntfs /dev/(whatever hd windows is on) /mnt/windows
[08:53] <bibe> logikal_ : FAT or NTFS?
[08:53] <bibe> Nvidiot : thanks
[08:53] <logikal_> ntfs
[08:53] <mad_phoenix> logikal:  or whatever other folder you want to mount it to, you just have to create it
[08:53] <bibe> so mad_phoenix is right. Be careful writing on ntfs!
[08:54] <mad_phoenix> yes, there's ntfs tools but after you use them to write from linux there's another utility that essentially runs through and makes sure you didn't b0rk the hell out of it
[08:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell logikal_ about windowsdrives
[08:54] <[LethAL] > Well, it's far better to write to ext2/3 drives from windows than NTFS from Linux imho
[08:54] <mad_phoenix> agreed
[08:54] <kahuna_> Hi. I just installed ubuntu and uncommented the CDrom apt-respository. When I try to get packages off the net I get md5sum mismatch on security.ubuntu.org
[08:55] <[LethAL] > ubuntu.org?
[08:55] <deFrysk> sudo apt-get update
[08:55] <[LethAL] > Try changin it to .com
[08:55] <[LethAL] > And do that ^^
[08:56] <logikal_> ok guys
[08:56] <logikal_> thanks
[08:56] <logikal_> I got the winm fstab installed
[08:57] <Ofe> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2825 <- what does that errormessage mean?
[08:57] <no_dammagE> I installed ubuntu onto the machine, but the X-Server won't start. the graphics adapter is an Ati Mobility X600, display is 1280x768 wxga. the server tells me: primary device is PCI 01:00:0, ATI: Candidate "Device" section "My Video Card" (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device. No devices detected ...
[08:57] <kahuna_> [LethAL] : It's us.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:57] <pupil> Just installed Ubuntu,.
[08:57] <pupil> its very nice
[08:57] <Sionide> good on you
[08:57] <Sionide> keep it
[08:57] <[LethAL] > Ofe, no need to sudo from root
[08:57] <kahuna_> Any other repositories that I can try?
[08:58] <florian> i now have 5.10 preview installed. will it be possible to upgrade to final 5.10?
[08:58] <logikal_> Ok guys
[08:58] <[LethAL] > Ofe, also, running gui apps with sudo won't work well
[08:58] <logikal_> Video Codecs
[08:58] <logikal_> Where do i get those?
[08:58] <[LethAL] > Ofe, use gksudo gedit
[08:58] <deFrysk> florian, for sure
[08:58] <pupil> Sionide, Concerning the updates,. theres alot of them,. some of them relative some not,. should I just update everthing?
[08:58] <logikal_> Windows Video Codecs
[08:58] <LasseL> didn't they take the codecs out of the backports?
[08:58] <logikal_> ubotu tell logikal windows codecs
[08:58] <Ofe> [LethAL] : so gksudo gedit /etc/ppp/peers/provider?
[08:58] <Sionide> pubuntu,
[08:58] <Sionide> oops
[08:58] <LasseL> !codecs
[08:58] <ubotu> [codecs]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:58] <logikal_> ubotu tell logikal codecs
[08:58] <Sionide> pupil, yes do them all - might as well
[08:59] <pupil> indeed
[08:59] <kbrooks> !cigarette
[08:59] <ubotu> It's bad to smoke, but kbrooks needs one all the same...  Here dude, have a light :)
[08:59] <florian> deFrysk, thanx, I used Fedora Core so far and there it would not have been possible
[08:59] <[LethAL] > Ofe, no, take the file out and then open it in gedit
[08:59] <kbrooks> ubotu: forget cigarette
[08:59] <ubotu> i forgot cigarette, kbrooks
[08:59] <deFrysk> florian, you will never have to upgrade using an installdisk again
[09:00] <florian> i like it ,)
[09:00] <Nvidiot> why do I get this? The following packages have been kept back: mplayer-386 ?
[09:00] <[LethAL] > Nvidiot, stop repeating yourself
[09:00] <damg> anyone who can help me with xorg on a toshiba m50 (satellite)?
[09:00] <Ofe> [LethAL] : ok, I'll try. So I have to search the file, open it in gedit and edit it, all in GUI?
[09:00] <Nvidiot> [LethAL] : sorry :/ Just trying to get it fixed
[09:00] <deFrysk> Nvidiot, probably you have "bad" repo's
[09:00] <antisocialboris> can someone help me sort out apt?
[09:00] <jimzilla> hi i,ve got a question
[09:00] <[LethAL] > Ofe, you don't have to use the gui
[09:01] <joachim> what's the module for the gnome Network administration tool?
[09:01] <antisocialboris> it cant seem to connect
[09:01] <[LethAL] > Ofe, sudo nano /etc/foo/bar will work fine
[09:01] <Nvidiot> deFrysk: hm, I'm using my isp's mirror. What does the error mean ?
[09:02] <deFrysk> Nvidiot, it means that there is a missing/wrong dep stopping mplayer from being installed
[09:02] <kahuna_> Anyone else getting the MD5sum mismatch off of security.ubuntu.com?
[09:02] <kahuna_> on apt-get update
[09:02] <Nvidiot> deFrysk: any way to get more info other than a bit windows-like: uh, no, doesn't work
[09:02] <Ofe> [LethAL] : I'm a newb as you must've noticed. sudo nano etc/foo/bar will let me edit /etc/ppp/peers/provider? o.O or sudo nano /etc/ppp/peers/provider? I know that nano is something like notebook.
[09:02] <LokeDK> upgrading to breezy - what should i choose here: http://pastebin.com/385316 ?
[09:02] <[LethAL] > Ofe, choose the latter ;)
[09:02] <jimzilla> how can one configure multiple ips on one network adapter
[09:03] <logikal_> W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[09:03] <deFrysk> Nvidiot, you have probably a repo in your sources.list wich should not be there
[09:03] <logikal_> :(
[09:03] <logikal_> :(
[09:03] <Nvidiot> deFrysk: want me to paste my sources.list on the web ?
[09:04] <deFrysk> sure ,you can do it in pastebin
[09:04] <vbgunz_> LokeDK, why don't you compare and merge changes?
[09:04] <vbgunz_> LokeDK: if that is possible?
[09:04] <LokeDK> there is show differences between version.. but else not vbgunz_
[09:04] <logikal_> Hit ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release
[09:04] <logikal_> Ign ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release
[09:04] <logikal_> Hit ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch/main Packages
[09:04] <logikal_> Fetched 192B in 2s (86B/s)
[09:04] <logikal_> Reading package lists... Done
[09:04] <logikal_> and then i get the error
[09:05] <vbgunz_> LokeDK: yeah, choose show difference and if in doubt keep asking :)
[09:05] <Nvidiot> deFrysk: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2827
[09:06] <LokeDK> just prints like a content of a .diff file?
[09:06] <pupil> How do I mount my file systems?
[09:06] <deFrysk> !info mplayer
[09:06] <logikal_> deFrysk
[09:06] <logikal_> you know whats going on bro?
[09:06] <kbrooks> nalioth? pm?
[09:06] <deFrysk> !info mplayer-i386
[09:07] <Davidleeroth> pupil edit ftsab and then use the mount command
[09:07] <deFrysk> Nvidiot, repos are ok
[09:07] <pupil> you mean fstab
[09:07] <deFrysk> !mplayer
[09:07] <ubotu> somebody said mplayer was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto.  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[09:07] <Nvidiot> deFrysk: that's what I figured
[09:07] <Davidleeroth> yes i do typo
[09:07] <Davidleeroth> Nvidiot I love your nick
[09:07] <deFrysk> Nvidiot, read the above and see if it helps
[09:07] <ollklkl> Hello, is there gonna be a Kubuntu Breezy RC too?
[09:07] <nalioth> logikal_: dont paste in here please
[09:08] <borgista> How do I get the lame & faad packages for breezy? 'sudo apt-get install lame faad' doesn't work.
[09:08] <morfeo> hola
[09:08] <deFrysk> !es
[09:08] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:09] <Nvidiot> deFrysk: strange, that wiki lists -586, -k6 and -amd64... maybe I should zap the -386 and grab -586
[09:09] <Davidleeroth> i wish that it was possible to request an edubuntu/kubuntu cd from shipit.ubuntu.com.  I guess that it really isnt a big deal to download kde after you install it to a system if you have a good connection (not 56k)
[09:09] <deFrysk> Nvidiot, sure ,why not
[09:10] <joolz> good evening
[09:10] <borgista> How do I get the lame & faad packages for breezy? 'sudo apt-get install lame faad' doesn't work.
[09:10] <joolz> or rather bad evening for me :\
[09:10] <joolz> i just upgraded from hoary to breezy and now my settings are borken
[09:10] <deFrysk> !tell borgista about restricted formats
[09:10] <Davidleeroth> joolz a bit mre specific....
[09:11] <shinu> anyone has an ipod? mine doesnt seem to be charging... im not sure if its the cable...
[09:11] <borgista> Thank you deFrysk
[09:11] <Nvidiot> deFrysk: affects mozilla-mplayer, but I'll reinstall that :)
[09:11] <cevizoglu> shinu: if it's blinking, it's not charging
[09:11] <joolz> Davidleeroth: i get a terminal login and a lot of these messages "-bash: /dev/null: permission denied"
[09:12] <Nvidiot> there we go :)
[09:12] <shinu> cevizoglu: what is blinking? the big do not disconnect sign?
[09:12] <Nvidiot> thanks guys (again)
[09:12] <joolz> when i first booted a lot of error messages about LC_CTYPE not being able to be used (file or dir not found)
[09:12] <etnoy> joolz: run ls -l /dev/null
[09:12] <cevizoglu> shinu: the ipod itself
[09:12] <shinu> cevizoglu: like... backlight?
[09:12] <pupil> should i edit fstab with vi,. or ?
[09:13] <borgista> deFrysk: Is this valid also for Breezy?
[09:13] <deFrysk> borgista, sorry valid for what ?
[09:13] <borgista> For getting lame & faad for Breezy.
[09:13] <borgista> or Hoary only?
[09:13] <cevizoglu> shinu: no... should be the same light that flashes when  the iPod is paused
[09:13] <pupil> So basically,. I have two hard drives,. hda1, hda2 hdb1, hdb2  hda1 has ubuntu on it.
[09:14] <etnoy> borgista: have you enabled multi/uni/verse in sources.list?
[09:14] <joolz> etnoy, i'm on windows now, so i will have to reboot for every suggestion or question. will ls -l /dev/null solve my problem?
[09:14] <deFrysk> borgista, did not read the wike are they available in muliverse ?
[09:14] <borgista> I'm not sure.
[09:14] <etnoy> no, it will help us find the problem
[09:14] <deFrysk> if yes it wil also work in breezy
[09:14] <borgista> I'll add it to sources.list
[09:14] <shinu> cevizoglu: not really sure what youre talking about... i just got it today ^^'
[09:14] <etnoy> if the permissions on /dev/null are too restricted you cannot write to it
[09:15] <kbrooks> well
[09:15] <etnoy> joolz: so you cannot use the computer at all?
[09:15] <joolz> etnoy, how can these permissions become so restricted from a dist-upgrade?
[09:15] <pupil> I don't recall setting a root password
[09:16] <pupil> how do I log in as root so that I can edit fstab?
[09:16] <joolz> etnoy, yes, i can boot (but without network) and do a terminal login
[09:16] <joolz> that;s about it
[09:16] <etnoy> joolz: are you on hoary or breezy?
[09:16] <scav> where is the gnome-logout script located
[09:16] <etnoy> and have you made any customizations?
[09:16] <joolz> after the upgrade? no
[09:16] <joolz> before that, of course :)
[09:16] <etnoy> and before?
[09:16] <joolz> but nothing drastic afaik
[09:16] <etnoy> okay
[09:16] <etnoy> well it sound weird
[09:17] <joolz> the system was running without problems for months on hoary and before that warty
[09:17] <etnoy> but try this: sudo chmod 777 /dev/null
[09:17] <flipy> is it safe to update from hoary to breezy? and is to so simply to change the apt sources.list and do a dist-upgrade?
[09:17] <etnoy> this will maximize the permissions on /dev/null
[09:17] <pupil> while the system is updating,. do i have to close any applications?
[09:17] <etnoy> but the change won't be left when you reboot
[09:17] <etnoy> pupil: you don't have to close anything
[09:18] <etnoy> this is linux :)
[09:18] <etnoy> no files are locked like on win
[09:18] <kbrooks> pupil: you can close them after it updates and reboot
[09:18] <bibe> when I login remotely from my laptop at work to my ubuntu machine at home, using ssh -X, and launch an X application, will all the traffic go through port 22, or should I make other tweaks on the office's firewall
[09:19] <pupil> how do I ensure that ubuntu mounts my file systems when the system boots?
[09:19] <etnoy> joolz: ls -l /dev/null looks like this for me, if it's anything else than that try the above command.
[09:19] <pupil> is that why I am editing the fstab?
[09:19] <etnoy> crw-rw-rw-  1 root root 1, 3 2005-10-01 14:28 /dev/null
[09:19] <HappyFool> bibe: afaik all goes through 22
[09:19] <etnoy> note the rw-rw-rw
[09:19] <HappyFool> hmm
[09:19] <pupil> and how do I get root acces,.  Just wanted to say that i just installed 5.10 for the first time and until now had no problem at all. Network, Sound, Updates, KDE integration, vpn, everything. nice work and thanks to the ubuntu team.
[09:20] <pupil> HappyFool, ok,. thanks
[09:21] <HappyFool> bibe: i believe so; i can't remember what the difference between ssh -X and ssh -Y is
[09:21] <logikal_> ubuntu does install and work very good
[09:21] <HappyFool> hmm, bother
[09:21] <etnoy> pupil: precede a command with sudo, and you'll get root perms
[09:21] <joachim> is there a command to tell which apt package a particular file on my HD belongs to?
[09:21] <cevizoglu> shinu: ipod usually only charge when they're completely unmounted... since ubuntu automounts usb drives, you may need to eject from command-line or nautilus to have it start charging
[09:21] <pupil> etnoy
[09:21] <robsta> i have upgraded yesterday but still no sound on ibook g3, is this a known issue?
[09:21] <etnoy> and the required password is _your_ password
[09:21] <HappyFool> i'm getting lots of these spam messages -- what's the setting to disable non-reg users sending me /msg's /
[09:21] <etnoy> pupil: yes
[09:21] <Ng> joachim: dpkg -S /path/to/the/file
[09:22] <antisocialboris> my connection keeps timing out so i cant connect to security.ubuntu.com when i apt-get update
[09:22] <bibe> HappyFool : I am logged in from home (LAN, without any firewall between the laptop and the pc) and I have gedit open, netstat only shows port 22 connected
[09:22] <antisocialboris> anything i can do?
[09:22] <[LethAL] > HappyFool, "/msg nickserv set unfiltered off" iirc
[09:22] <HappyFool> [LethAL] : thank you
[09:22] <dalfa> hi!
[09:22] <joachim> thanks Ng :)
[09:23] <[LethAL] > HappyFool, services should set mode -6 on you then
[09:23] <dalfa> I have a question to the ubuntu community
[09:23] <bibe> I just wanted to be sure that tomorrow I will be able to connect from office ;)
[09:23] <nalioth> HappyFool: /umode +CE
[09:23] <[LethAL] > HappyFool, or +6, I can't remember
[09:23] <pupil> how do I check and see what partitons are on my hard disks?
[09:23] <nalioth> [LethAL] : that turns off the networks protection
[09:23] <pupil> df -v?
[09:23] <TotallyNewOne> fdisk -l
[09:23] <pupil> cool
[09:23] <[LethAL] > nalioth, ?
[09:23] <nalioth> [LethAL] : +6 is an unknown mode flag
[09:23] <dalfa> is good sell the free ubuntu cds?
[09:23] <chach> can anyone tell me how I figure out my http proxy??
[09:23] <dalfa> its ubuntu GPL?
[09:23] <[LethAL] > nalioth, "[18:33:20]  * services. sets mode +6 [LethAL] "
[09:23] <HappyFool> bibe: you should have a port 6010 open on the ssh server
[09:24] <nalioth> [LethAL] : set unfiltered off to nickserv turns OFF network protection from spamming
[09:24] <HappyFool> dalfa: you can sell 'em if people will buy 'em
[09:24] <nalioth> [LethAL] : have you tried /umode -6  ?
[09:24] <pupil> TotallyNewOne, fdisk -l does not work
[09:24] <LokeDK> vbgunz_, still unpacking stuff :(
[09:25] <HappyFool> use sudo fdisk -l
[09:25] <Davidleeroth> WHat distribution of debian is breezy based off of?
[09:25] <[LethAL] > nalioth, you're wrong, /msg nickserv help set unfiltered
[09:25] <vbgunz_> LokeDK: oh ok *but* how you handle it, accepted the default, kept the old or did you do the diff?
[09:25] <LokeDK> pushed y.. install package maintainer's
[09:26] <chach> newb here, can anyone tell me how I figure out my http proxy??
[09:26] <etnoy> i've got problems with my smbfs mounts disconnecting from my gentoo samba server
[09:26] <chach> i'm working on a network install
[09:26] <bibe> HappyFool : yes, it's open, but it's "talking" to port 1310 on the server
[09:26] <vbgunz_> LokeDK: ok ;) I hope it works!
[09:26] <Cryptid> nalioth , What is the command to del or remove directories??
[09:26] <nalioth> [LethAL] : the default setting of the network has filtering ON  HappyFool shouldn't have to msg nickserv anything
[09:26] <dalfa> happy fool: well i dont wanna sell them but here in my country there is a shop
[09:26] <etnoy> smb_file_read: Bill Evans Trio - Sunday at the Village Vanguard (1961)/04 - Solar.mp3 validation failed, error=4294967291
[09:26] <LokeDK> vbgunz_, so do i :)
[09:26] <dalfa> who sell ubuntu free cds
[09:26] <[LethAL] > nalioth, I know, but he might have thought it would be useful somewhere
[09:27] <etnoy> and I need to re-mount the shares
[09:27] <bibe> HappyFool : so I can expect X traffic not to be stopped by the firewall
[09:27] <nalioth> Cryptid: "man rm"
[09:27] <dalfa> and i wanna known if that is right with ubuntu license
[09:27] <etnoy> I've never encountered these problems on my other linux boxes
[09:27] <etnoy> dalfa: why don't you look att www.gnu.org and read the faq?
[09:27] <vbgunz_> Dalfa selling Ubuntu CDs at cost is reasonable otherwise give them away would be nice too, unless of course a huge amount of the proceeds go back to Ubuntu for further development would be great
[09:27] <etnoy> a lot of good info there
[09:28] <Davidleeroth> dalfa you can get them for fre at shipit.ubuntu.com
[09:28] <cumcum82> hi
[09:28] <Davidleeroth> hi
[09:29] <larsrohdin> hi=)
[09:29] <cumcum82> :)
[09:29] <vbgunz_> hi
[09:29] <cumcum82> i have problems
[09:29] <[LethAL] > Don't we all...
[09:29] <vbgunz_> yeah hehe
[09:29] <larsrohdin> word
[09:29] <cumcum82> i come to solve them
[09:29] <dalfa> i dont need buy, i just want to known is ubuntu was GPL
[09:29] <etnoy> cumcum82: welcome to the ubuntu therapy board then
[09:29] <Ng> deFrysk: some of it is GPL, some of it is other licenses
[09:30] <dalfa> because gpl let sell the soft
[09:30] <etnoy> dalfa: read the message in /etc/issue
[09:30] <Ng> err
[09:30] <cumcum82> therapy
[09:30] <Ng> dalfa: some of it is GPL, some of it is other licenses
[09:30] <cumcum82> :)
[09:30] <etnoy> ubuntu is a collection of many programs under various licenses
[09:30] <cumcum82> any one know how to configure spidermonkey?
[09:30] <Davidleeroth> ubuntu is perhaps the most fun word to type in all the land
[09:30] <larsrohdin> cumcum82, I don't but have you tried the 'man' pages?
[09:30] <Davidleeroth> iits a cool word because the n's and u's look so cool
[09:30] <etnoy> the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
[09:31] <etnoy> individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.
[09:31] <dalfa> oh well thanks a lot
[09:31] <etnoy> dalfa: I mean /etc/motd
[09:31] <cumcum82> ok i do it 1st
[09:31] <Cryptid> nalioth , rm -d command isnt working
[09:31] <larsrohdin> cumcum82, always a good place to start
[09:31] <Davidleeroth> dalfa if you were to sell ubuntu cd's, it would be nice to return around 50 percent back to ubuntu (time for devel is money)
[09:31] <cumcum82> thnx
[09:31] <etnoy> cumcum82: and google :)
[09:32] <larsrohdin> Davidleeroth, ey the ubuntu team, do they accept donations?
[09:32] <HappyFool> Cryptid: do you get an error message? if so, what is it?
[09:32] <etnoy> larsrohdin: oh yes they do :(
[09:33] <nalioth> Cryptid: what exactly are you trying to do?
[09:33] <etnoy> :) sorry wrong paranthesis
[09:33] <larsrohdin> something to do when I get a job maybe...
[09:33] <vbgunz_> larsrohdin, who doesn't take donations ;)
[09:34] <MagicFab> hello
[09:34] <Davidleeroth> hello
[09:34] <Cryptid> HappyFool & nalioth , the error says cannot remove vmware-distrib/: Is a Directory
[09:34] <MagicFab> I just noticed 5.10RC1 is out
[09:34] <larsrohdin> vbgunz_, heh true
[09:34] <nalioth> Cryptid: again: what exactly are you wanting to do?
[09:34] <dalfa> davidleeroth: i dont want sell cds, i just want to known if does is letit by ubuntu license
[09:34] <Davidleeroth> i love vmware. i use it when i am on my win32 notebook just so i can use ubuntu/knoppix:)
[09:34] <bibe> MagicFab : yes!
[09:34] <MagicFab> If I had Colony 5 installed, can I "update" to 5.10RC1 ?
[09:34] <MagicFab> how ?
[09:34] <wolden> I've a question, you fine people: I tried installing beep media player but everytime I try to play an mp3 it just freezes and I have to force it to quit
[09:35] <Cryptid> nalioth i wanted to delete tat dir so that i can do a fresh installation
[09:35] <nalioth> MagicFab: you will never have to reinstall linux again
[09:35] <deFrysk> MagicFab, just upgrade regurarly
[09:35] <nalioth> MagicFab: apt-get will keep your box up to date
[09:35] <bibe> MagicFab : sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:35] <deFrysk> MagicFab, you lucky bastard :D
[09:35] <MagicFab> nalioth: I know I don't have to reinstall but will the standard update manager bring me to RC1 ?
[09:35] <thefoot> is there any info/howto get ubuntu to see winxp network shares?
[09:35] <Cryptid> nalioth, it isnt allowing meo install VMware again it says that VMware install detected
[09:35] <nalioth> Cryptid: i'm about to send you the most dangerous command known to linux. be careful using it
[09:35] <FlangeR> Does anyone know what package I need to apt-get to run a java bin file?
[09:35] <MagicFab> apt-get update ? or apte-get upgrade...?
[09:35] <deFrysk> MagicFab, of course and beyond
[09:35] <larsrohdin> MagicFab, apt-get
[09:35] <HappyFool> hmm, what is 'rm -d' supposed to do, anyway? according to the help, '-d, --directory       unlink FILE, even if it is a non-empty directory', but i can't get it to work
[09:36] <MagicFab> thefoot: install SMB to start
[09:36] <Cryptid> nalioth, K i will b
[09:36] <bibe> apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade
[09:36] <HappyFool> !tell thefoot about samba
[09:36] <nalioth> MagicFab: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade will do
[09:36] <Ng> FlangeR: as in the sun java .bin installer?
[09:36] <Cryptid> HappyFool, i used rm -d but it was useless
[09:36] <thefoot> thanks
[09:36] <pupil> How do I check what ubuntu I'm using?
[09:36] <bibe> use sudo, and then (or, better, before doing that) man apt-get
[09:36] <HappyFool> Cryptid: you still haven't told us what you're trying to achieve ;)
[09:36] <nalioth> HappyFool: if you read, it depends on 'unlink' in the kernel or something
[09:36] <kbrooks> MagicFab: RCs are not numbered
[09:36] <MagicFab> how about updating a hoary system to 5.10RC1 ?
[09:36] <kbrooks> MagicFab: only one RC
[09:36] <nalioth> HappyFool: he wants to remove a dir
[09:36] <MagicFab> how is that accomplished ?
[09:36] <HappyFool> nalioth: ah. i thought unlink was unix for delete
[09:36] <Cryptid> nalioth, yipee it worked
[09:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell MagicFab about upgrade2breezy
[09:37] <zoot_> hi, anyone here use XFCE? trying to get kiosk mode working (updated breezy)
[09:37] <nalioth> MagicFab: ubotu has priv msg'd you
[09:37] <pupil> nalioth, how do I check to see what ubuntu I'm running?
[09:37] <MagicFab> *huge tx*
[09:37] <Davidleeroth> pupil, uname -a
[09:37] <MagicFab> pupil: from command line: uname -a I think will give you kernel info
[09:37] <nalioth> pupil: open a terminal and type "lsb_release -a"
[09:37] <nalioth> Davidleeroth: catch up, friend
[09:38] <bibe> MagicFab : sudo sed -i -e "s/hoary/breezy/g" /etc/apt/sources.list, then sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:38] <MagicFab> oh! lsb_release...
[09:38] <nalioth> MagicFab: lsb_release -a will tell you exactly what you've got
[09:38] <FlangeR> Ng: Eeeeeh.... maybe? I'm trying to play a Triplea game (axis and allies), it's a game writtin in Java. All I have is this .bin file. The website says I need java, but Sun doesn't provide deb packages. Does this help?
[09:38] <pupil> 5.10 the Breezy badger Release
[09:38] <vbgunz_> anyone know how Commercial Technical Support weighs in? I mean 250 for premium technical support... How long does that last? 1 year, 2 years, 3 years or more or less?
[09:38] <dmlinux> hey guys, i have to re install windows.... /sigh , when it installs , how do i make it so windows doesnt boot up automatically and Grub is recognized
[09:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell FlangeR about javadeb
[09:38] <HappyFool> vbgunz_: where do you see that?
[09:38] <vbgunz_> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/supportoptions/support/supportoptions/paidsupport/
[09:38] <Skid> !tell me about javadeb
[09:38] <nalioth> dmlinux: you'll have to rebuild grub, cuz windows loves the taste of it
[09:38] <pinucset> windows fucks all the grub...
[09:39] <Davidleeroth> how is hoary pronounced?
[09:39] <pinucset> they dont know what to do xD
[09:39] <Ng> FlangeR: see what ubotu just messaged you. thanks nalioth
[09:39] <dmlinux> nalioth god damn windows
[09:39] <vbgunz_> Davidleeroth: I believe whore ree
[09:39] <nalioth> pinucset: please watch the language
[09:39] <FlangeR> Thanx, both!
[09:39] <dmlinux> nalioth how do  i just repair windows then? its saying im missing a DLL
[09:39] <pinucset> ok, sorry ;)
[09:39] <nalioth> dmlinux: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:39] <MagicFab> another unrelated question: How would I go about (re)presenting Ubuntu at local community/business events ?
[09:40] <shinu> cevizoglu: sorry, i went off to cook dinner
[09:40] <MagicFab> I'd like to give out documentation, free CDs and have some sort of branding of a kiosk I would be using. Is this possible ?
[09:40] <nalioth> MagicFab: order some CDs
[09:40] <nalioth> MagicFab: join your local LUG
[09:40] <nalioth> MagicFab: shipit.ubuntu.com
[09:40] <HappyFool> vbgunz_: it says 'Coverage: 1 year'
[09:40] <shinu> cevizoglu: ubuntu doesnt automount the ipod for me but it does put it into disc mode.
[09:40] <vbgunz_> MgicFab: good question, I inquired in the channel about ubuntu certification and someone mentioned Ubuntu is thinking about it...
[09:40] <shinu> cevizoglu: however, i just ejected it and the battery bar still doesnt seem to be charging
[09:40] <MagicFab> nalioth: done all that, just asking about using U' s trademark I guess, for example for backdrops etc.
[09:40] <vbgunz_> HappyFool, thank you... I know my idiocy is not at all perfect ;)
[09:41] <cevizoglu> shinu: then the ipod still thinks ubuntu is using it
[09:41] <nalioth> MagicFab: ask seveas when he shows up
[09:41] <zoot_> reprise: any xfce users here?
[09:41] <larsrohdin> zoot_, hepp
[09:41] <shinu> cevizoglu: anyway to get it charging maybe?
[09:41] <MagicFab> vbgunz_: there *is* certification in the works, it was announced recently I think (check the affiliates/partners program)
[09:41] <larsrohdin> zoot_, me
[09:41] <zoot_> larsrohdin: cool - used kiosk mode at all?
[09:42] <larsrohdin> zoot_, nope.. sorry
[09:42] <vbgunz_> MagicFab, thank you , nice to know!
[09:42] <zoot_> need to restrict users from altering the panel etc
[09:42] <cevizoglu> shinu: if the ipod is really unmounted, it will charge
[09:42] <zoot_> larsrohdin: thx
[09:42] <hyperactivecrond> is there a company that sells laptops with either (a) linux installed, or (b) no os installed
[09:42] <Davidleeroth> has anyone tried xpde? IMHO, i think it resembles winxp enough to even be acceptable
[09:42] <hyperactivecrond> Davidleeroth: +1
[09:42] <Davidleeroth> hyperactivecrond, hp actually sells a linux laptop
[09:42] <hyperactivecrond> for home use?
[09:42] <Davidleeroth> yeah
[09:42] <hyperactivecrond> like i cant buy for buisness
[09:42] <hyperactivecrond> Davidleeroth: model?
[09:42] <vbgunz_> XPDE I don't believe even grows anymore does it?
[09:43] <Davidleeroth> what did you mean by +!?
[09:43] <Thirsteh> Where does kernel-headers put the headerS?
[09:43] <MagicFab> vbgunz_:  http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/
[09:43] <nalioth> Davidleeroth: you scored
[09:43] <Thirsteh> not in /usr/src/linux apparently
[09:43] <shinu> cevizoglu: it isnt mounted in mtab and contrarily, it not charging but the battery is going empty really quickly
[09:43] <vbgunz_> MagicFab, thank you I found it when you mentioned it ;)
[09:43] <HappyFool> Thirsteh: linked from /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build
[09:43] <shinu> cevizoglu: and i mean really quickly...
[09:43] <thefoot> hmm after installing Samba, looking at the Network > General Tab.  There is no check box for Windows Networking
[09:43] <alex_> hi, does anyone have an actiontec dsl router?
[09:43] <MagicFab> ubotu: how can I 'register' to send private messages ?
[09:43] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, MagicFab
[09:44] <logikal_> well guys
[09:44] <nalioth> MagicFab: /msg nickserv help register
[09:44] <pupil> my graphics card is capable of 1600 X 1200 yet,. I can only go up to 1280 .. how doI change this?
[09:44] <kjb> i have a problem, my kernel is created with gcc3.4 and now i wanna install a software, but i have an updated gcc4.0.2
[09:44] <logikal_> every attempt i've made to install codes or mp3 support has failed.
[09:44] <hyperactivecrond> !register
[09:44] <ubotu> Freenode is being affected by spammers at present. This has meant that #ubuntu has had to be closed to unregistered users (for the moment).
[09:44] <HappyFool> thefoot: maybe system -> admin -> shared folders
[09:44] <kjb> now i wanna make my kernel net
[09:44] <Thirsteh> HappyFool, thanks
[09:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pupil about fixres
[09:44] <kjb> with make clone config
[09:45] <kjb> /bin/sh: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-9/scripts/gcc-version.sh: No such file or directory
[09:45] <digis___> :(
[09:45] <logikal_> who wants to help me get my mp3s working?
[09:45] <vbgunz_> I really don't think XPDE is a bad idea... I think it is awesome... To me it would just be another way to get people a bit more interested into Linux altogether... Although I themed my Gnome beautifully, I don't object to XPDE... I just heard it's either dying or it is dead... Haven't looked into it since :(
[09:45] <Sieg> hi! sorry, I just made a stupid mistake of deleting all the stages in my grub directory... (thought I was on the CF... heh). Yes, very stupid, but anywhere I can dl them again? :) Tks
[09:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell logikal_ about mp3
[09:45] <susokukan47> ok, now i registered...
[09:45] <thefoot> HappyFool:  that doesnt let me setup my windows settings though like domain name etc..
[09:46] <logikal_> !restricted
[09:46] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:46] <pokkys> any BMPx user here?
[09:46] <HappyFool> thefoot: hrm. you're following the wiki page, right?
[09:46] <pokkys> yes
[09:46] <seife> Why do i get this kind of msgs when i try to open anything?
[09:46] <thefoot> HappyFool i sure am
[09:46] <susokukan47> i have an actiontec dsl modem and i can't get gaim to connect. after some tinkering with resolv.conf, firefox (and x-chat, obviously) work.....
[09:46] <kjb> can someone help me with this kernel thing?
[09:46] <pokkys> but X header miss
[09:46] <seife> The Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly.
[09:46] <seife> You can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.  Or you can restart the application right now.
[09:46] <HappyFool> thefoot: standby...
[09:47] <Thirsteh> HappyFool, apparently, "kernel-headers" is not sufficient to install Vmware and build the kernel module it needs - how do I install the whole kernel source via apt-get - is it possible?
[09:47] <Thirsteh> HappyFool, newest Hoary kernel
[09:47] <HappyFool> Thirsteh: linux-source-2.6.10
[09:47] <HappyFool> Thirsteh: i presume you installed linux-headers-386 already?
[09:47] <Answer> Hello All.  I am looking for a VNC solution that is easy to install and configure from the command line please :)
[09:48] <Thirsteh> ahhhh
[09:48] <hyperactivecrond> answer: xvnc?
[09:48] <Thirsteh> it's LINUX-soure
[09:48] <Thirsteh> source
[09:48] <Thirsteh> not kernel-source... man what's WRONG with Canonical!
[09:48] <Thirsteh> :p
[09:48] <Thirsteh> Thanks though HappyFool
[09:48] <seife> The Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly.
[09:48] <seife> Why do i get this kind of msgs when i try to open anything?
[09:48] <HappyFool> thefoot: hmm
[09:49] <HappyFool> thefoot: the wiki is confusing
[09:49] <squid0> seife: i get that occasionally too...
[09:49] <Answer> hyperactivecrond: is xvnc installed by default or what
[09:49] <thefoot> HappyFool:  more like outdated
[09:49] <seife> squid0, how u fix that?
[09:49] <seife> I dont want to reformat..
[09:50] <MagicFab> ok registered now
[09:50] <hyperactivecrond> Answer: apt-get install xvnc
[09:50] <MagicFab> tx.
[09:50] <seife> how do i install msttcorefonts.
[09:50] <seife>  squid0 help
[09:50] <meuserj|work> Thirsteh, linux-source makes more since to me than kernel-source... since linux isn't the ONLY kernel
[09:50] <Answer> hyperactivecrond: any chance it's backwards compatible with redhat 9 and you know where the rpm is? heh
[09:51] <squid0> seife: help? help???? ;)
[09:51] <HappyFool> thefoot: well, the alternative is to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[09:51] <HappyFool> thefoot: or, possibly easier, you can run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure samba'
[09:51] <squid0> seife: i don't know what the issue is.
[09:51] <Rossi> Hello
[09:51] <benkong2> is nvu not available for breezy?
[09:51] <Skid> hmm, is there such a  thing as a CLI nzb grabber?
[09:52] <kbrooks> benkong2:
[09:52] <nalioth> benkong2: build it
[09:52] <kbrooks> !info nvu breezy
[09:52] <ubotu> nvu: (Complete Web Authoring System), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 8349 kB, Installed size: 26468 kB
[09:52] <kbrooks> nalioth: ^
[09:52] <benkong2> thanks
[09:52] <nalioth> Skid: yes there are several
[09:52] <kbrooks> benkong2: ^
[09:52] <nalioth> Skid: visit sourceforge.net and search for 'nzb"
[09:52] <squid0> seife: nautilus is crashing. I imagine some process is crashing it, or it's getting overloaded with too much load. ??
[09:52] <hyperactivecrond> Answer: www.rpmfind.net
[09:52] <squid0> hey kbrooks
[09:52] <Skid> nalioth: yeah I have, all I see is QT GUI stuff
[09:52] <kbrooks> squid0: :P
[09:53] <squid0> :p yourself
[09:53] <squid0> ;)
[09:53] <Rossi> can anyone help me with installing nforce audio drivers?
[09:53] <benkong2> !nvu
[09:53] <ubotu> [nvu]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.
[09:53] <logikal_> nalioth, may i speak to you in om?
[09:53] <nalioth> Skid: there are perl nzb things there, atoo
[09:53] <cevizoglu> how do I see which device in /dev/ is attached to a mounted volume in /media?
[09:53] <logikal_> pm
[09:53] <HappyFool> cevizoglu: run 'mount' (no arguments)
[09:53] <nalioth> logikal_: join #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:53] <Skid> ok thanks i'll have anoother look around
[09:53] <seife> squid0, dunno man..
[09:53] <hyperactivecrond> does Dell still do  "open source ready"?
[09:53] <seife> i rebooted
[09:53] <seife> and the problem persist
[09:54] <squid0> seife: what are you doing when this happens? ie. what triggers it?
[09:54] <lsuactiafner> Rossi : dont install the audio drivers
[09:55] <Thorondor> hi, i've got some problems with my sound - music player, mplayer, etc work fine, but others like skype or teamspeak  do not work at all, i.e. i got neither input nor output - what devies/drivers do i have to fill in?
[09:55] <lsuactiafner> Rossi : the open source kernel drivers work much much better
[09:55] <seife> I dont know
[09:55] <seife> ):
[09:55] <squid0> seife: well, the first step to understanding what's going on is to record, or be aware of, what triggers the crash.
[09:56] <seife> How do i install Multiverse repositories?
[09:57] <daved> does anyone know if there are good 2.6.12 kernel .deb's for ubuntu that include xen support?
[09:57] <yasser> even if just 10 % are active in here, it is far too much for one channel, or not (greetings from northern germany btw)?
[09:57] <Alex_BO> what's the name of the program that show a cow or a penguin on the shell?
[09:57] <HappyFool> !tell seife about repos
[09:57] <squid0> happyfool: synaptic loading up...
[09:57] <thefoot> HappyFool: find anything?
[09:58] <anethema> only 22mb of updates in breezy today
[09:58] <anethema> whee
[09:58] <HappyFool> thefoot: no, i checked if there was a gnome-samba package of some sort, but nothing
[09:58] <squid0> seife: in Synaptic: Settings -> Repositories
[09:58] <HappyFool> thefoot: how computer-clueful are you?
[09:58] <thefoot> HappyFool: windows based im very good
[09:58] <thefoot> HappyFOol: linux....
[09:58] <squid0> sife: yes? no?
[09:59] <MagicFab> upgrading hoary to breezy on a test system.... downloading 1086 packages!
[09:59] <HappyFool> thefoot: for starters, try backing up /etc/samba/smb.conf and run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure samba'
[09:59] <MagicFab> fortunately it's at 300kbps
[10:00] <thefoot> how do i want to run Samaba? daemons or inetd
[10:00] <KasperTech> Hi, why can't I make the FGLRX-driver work ?
[10:00] <HappyFool> thefoot: oh, that doesn't do much
[10:00] <KasperTech> I'm only able to use the ATI-driver :S:S:
[10:00] <kbrooks> MagicFab: 34.6 kb/s -- updating package info
[10:00] <HappyFool> thefoot: the reconfigure is a bit useless, sorry
[10:00] <HappyFool> thefoot: choose 'daemons'
[10:00] <thefoot> Happy:  Done. Now what? :)
[10:01] <KasperTech> And the ATI-driver can't even make TuxRacer run alright :S?
[10:01] <HappyFool> thefoot: unfortunately you'll have to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[10:01] <seife> man
[10:01] <seife> thats nott he prob
[10:01] <seife> i have all the repositories installed
[10:01] <HappyFool> thefoot: 'sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf' (or 'gksudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf' if your prefer a GUI editor)
[10:01] <benkong2> !java
[10:01] <ubotu> java is, like, to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[10:01] <seife> And i still dont find the msttcorefonts package, sigh
[10:02] <squid0> seife: are you sure you're spelling it right?
[10:02] <nalioth> benkong2: you need java?
[10:02] <squid0> seife: check out the Unofficial guide.
[10:02] <elcuco_> hi, i have installed ubuntu 5.04, and i am upgrading it to 5.10.
[10:02] <seife> man fuck this, ill reinstall
[10:02] <seife> my ubuntu fucked up
[10:03] <seife> i dont see the windows on the taskbar
[10:03] <elcuco_> i have some problems with my music cd. it seems it does not want to play any music
[10:03] <seife> the low bar
[10:03] <nalioth> seife: language please. reinstalling isnt necessary
[10:03] <squid0> I've installed java on my system, but how do I make sure that PATH includes the path to java always?
[10:03] <seife> then i cant open up my audio folder
[10:03] <seife> it is..
[10:03] <nalioth> squid0: how did you install it?
[10:03] <HappyFool> thefoot: i must be off now, sorry. the wiki page is a bit useless; you can try www.samba.org -- they have lots of docs, including 'howtos' for various usage scenarios
[10:03] <MagicFab> seife: try creating a new user
[10:03] <squid0> sife: yes, language, please. keep calm and people will try to help you
[10:03] <MagicFab> and login as that user
[10:03] <seife> The Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly.
[10:03] <seife> You can inform the developers of what happened to help them fix it.  Or you can restart the application right now.
[10:03] <seife> ok ill try that.
[10:04] <squid0> nalioth: i used the jdk install from the Sun java site
[10:04] <seife> creating a new user deletes all the other stuff of other users?
[10:04] <nalioth> squid0: the wiki should mention how to set the $PATH for it
[10:04] <nalioth> seife: not it does not
[10:04] <zeus1_> When does ubuntu breezy final get released
[10:04] <seife> i cant open any folder
[10:04] <nalioth> zeus1_: oct 13
[10:04] <seife> i dont see stuff on the low bar
[10:04] <zeus1_> Final? not a beta?
[10:05] <kbrooks> zeus1_: yes
[10:05] <seife> i cant get msttcorefonts
[10:05] <zeus1_> does breezy have good wireless support
[10:05] <seife> i cant do anythin
[10:05] <kbrooks> ubotu: tell seife about repos
[10:05] <nalioth> seife open a terminal
[10:05] <squid0> nalioth: i'll check, but I've seen a few places on the web like 'export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/java/bin:.'
[10:05] <thefoot> Happy:  All done now what
[10:05] <squid0> but that is only temporary
[10:05] <nalioth> squid0: that will work in your .bashrc
[10:05] <squid0> nalioth: ah. where is that?
[10:05] <kbrooks> ~
[10:06] <squid0> thanks
[10:06] <kbrooks>  /home/user/
[10:06] <KasperTech> Please, anyone?
[10:06] <nalioth> squid0: /home/squid0/.bashrc
[10:06] <squid0> ok
[10:06] <Thorondor> i've got some problems with my sound - music player, mplayer, etc work fine, but other apps like skype or teamspeak  do not work at all, i.e. i got neither input nor output - what devices/drivers do i have to set in the options?
[10:06] <kbrooks> nalioth: i told him already :)
[10:06] <nalioth> kbrooks: i cant take it back when i hit 'enter'
[10:06] <yasser> can someone tell me, how much "the boss" pays for one CD of the Ubuntu-ShipIt?
[10:06] <nalioth> kbrooks: lag sucks
[10:06] <kbrooks> nalioth: ah
[10:07] <poningru> KasperTech: whats wrong?
[10:07] <KasperTech> poningru: I've got the ATI-driver working on my ATI Radeon X600
[10:07] <KasperTech> But it sucks.
[10:07] <thefoot> how do i stop and restart samba?
[10:07] <KasperTech> So I want to get a better driver, that's able to run Tuxracer e.g.
[10:07] <poningru> oh hold on
[10:07] <lorenzod> thefoot: /etc/init.d/samba restart
[10:07] <poningru> have you looked at the ati wiki page
[10:08] <KasperTech> I've tried the FGLRX already.
[10:08] <KasperTech> Yes.
[10:08] <lorenzod> Hm.. that is sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[10:08] <poningru> didnt work?
[10:08] <thefoot> lorenzod: i'm runing it as a deamon
[10:08] <KasperTech> Nope, didn't work.
[10:08] <KasperTech> I got a turned-off screen. :S
[10:08] <poningru> ooph
[10:08] <rBo3Db> Has anyone else seen problems connecting Evolution to pop.gmail.com?.. (breezy)
[10:08] <poningru> yeah dont thing you have a solution then dude
[10:08] <thefoot> loren:  thanks
[10:08] <lorenzod> thefoot: what I said should work.
[10:08] <poningru> KasperTech: the problem is dude that ATI support for linux is pretty bad
[10:08] <pupil> where do I edit to add the resolution setting for ?
[10:09] <poningru> when compared to nvidia etc.
[10:09] <zeus1_> does breezy have good wireless internet support?
[10:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell pupil about fixres
[10:09] <pupil> I need  to add 1600 x 1200
[10:09] <KasperTech> poningru: I know, but there must be something that makes my x600 run tuxraver :( ??
[10:09] <pupil> I am at the fixres thing
[10:09] <lorenzod> thefoot: otherwise, kill -HUP <samba-PID>
[10:09] <nalioth> pupil: ubotu privmsg'd you
[10:09] <ompaul> !tell zeus1_ about wireless
[10:09] <pupil> nalioth, but it says its for Hoary,. not Breezy
[10:09] <poningru> KasperTech: I am assuming you have googled the issue
[10:09] <rBo3Db> Has anyone else seen problems connecting Evolution to pop.gmail.com?.. (breezy)
[10:09] <KasperTech> poningru: of course.
[10:09] <pupil> nalioth,  I am using breezy
[10:09] <poningru> KasperTech: apart from that I have no clue dude sorry
[10:10] <KasperTech> Dammit.
[10:10] <zeus1_> ompaul I already looked on there...my cards not even displayed on that page
[10:10] <nalioth> pupil: it's the same process
[10:10] <pupil> I'll read it anyway
[10:10] <pupil> oh,. ok
[10:10] <zeus1_> tell me if u can find a DWL-AG530 card on there plz
[10:10] <squid0> nalioth, kbrooks: works great.
[10:10] <poningru> KasperTech: wait till breazy comes out
[10:10] <nalioth> rBo3Db: wait 5 minutes b4 you repeat the same question
[10:10] <KasperTech> poningru: What'll that do?
[10:10] <rBo3Db> nalioth ok
[10:10] <poningru> KasperTech: because x was modularized and so trying different driver will not crash X
[10:11] <poningru> and lots of driver work went into it as well
[10:11] <ompaul> !tell zeus1_ about ndiswrapper
[10:11] <poningru> so hopefully one of the new fixes is about your particular ati
[10:11] <KasperTech> poningru: okay, so when will I get the wanted effect :o?
[10:11] <KasperTech> Yea.
[10:11] <poningru> KasperTech: a week from now
[10:11] <poningru> oct 13
[10:11] <tristanmike> rBo3Db, I'm using Hoary and I just check, doesn't look like there is a problem, of course, I don't get much email, :(
[10:11] <poningru> or download the RC
[10:11] <poningru> released already
[10:11] <KasperTech> Okay... till then I think it'll do.
[10:12] <poningru> yeah sorry dude
[10:12] <KasperTech> NP, thanks for trying though,
[10:12] <rBo3Db> tristanmike, on hoary it worked well for me... not on breezy...
[10:12] <pupil> how the heck am i supposed to know my videlo cards BUS identifier?
[10:13] <SogniX> hello! can anyone tell me the best / easiest way to import contacts from OS X's addressbook (different computer)
[10:13] <SogniX> into Evolution
[10:13] <pupil> nalioth, This thing is asking me for video car's bus identifier,. I have no idea
[10:13] <tristanmike> rBo3Db, sorry couldn't help you out, Breezy's not offical, so I stay away :)
[10:13] <nalioth> rBo3Db: there are lots of things that dont work yet on breezy (it's not finished)
[10:14] <poningru> nalioth: I hope you are not serious cause its a week away
[10:14] <rBo3Db> yeah i know... just want to check if there's another unhappy chap..'
[10:14] <nalioth> poningru: i'm afraid i am
[10:15] <thefoot> do i setup authentication, like the username/pw, in smb.conf?
[10:15] <pupil> Can anyone tell me where I find my Video Card's bus Identiier?
[10:15] <thefoot> right now i'm mounting and it's saying access denied
[10:17] <linuxboy> any screenshots of hoary rc ?
[10:17] <pupil> what is 32 mb in kb ?
[10:18] <shadeofgrey> is it possible to run superkaramba with ubuntu?
[10:18] <shadeofgrey> id really like to make my ubuntu installation to behave like an OSX box...
[10:19] <poningru> shadeofgrey: yes I believe so look in the repositories
[10:19] <poningru> I believe its in univ/multiv
[10:19] <hyperactivecrond> where do you get string?
[10:19] <poningru> !superkaramba
[10:19] <ubotu> SuperKaramba is a KDE application that allows you to create interactive eye-candy on your desktop. Official site: http://netdragon.sourceforge.net SK Themes: http://kdelook.org
[10:20] <shadeofgrey> okay...  does anybody know how to actually install it and then add the components that make the linux desktop look like aqua?
[10:20] <shadeofgrey> ugh!  id have to install kde??
[10:20] <linuxboy> pupil: 32,768
[10:21] <LaptopZZ> is the amd64 debian pure64 or multiarxch
[10:21] <poningru> shadeofgrey: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62713
[10:21] <poningru> shadeofgrey: no you can install just the prog
[10:22] <poningru> ofcourse you have to install the libs
[10:22] <poningru> but this is all done within 5 or 6 clicks
[10:22] <poningru> and password entry
[10:24] <Answer> Who was telling me about Xvnc before?  I need to get Display 0 (Zero) thru VNC please
[10:24] <protok0l> how do i set up a joystick?
[10:24] <zeus1_> what a bunch of bs..no internet! theres no internet! i cant connect to the internet! wireless is too hard to set up! !!!
[10:24] <Kaparen> I got big problems getting my NVIDIA drivers to work, Ive tried updating them with Synaptic, Ive updated tehm manually btu I always end up with what I think is a (EE)NVIDIA(0)FAiled to load the NVIDIA kernel module. any suggestions?
[10:24] <Answer> hyperactivecrond: do you know how to get display zero thru vnc?
[10:24] <LokeDK> I've just upgraded to breezy, but I can't compile the nvidia driver.. first of all it complains about that I have a different gcc version than the one the kernel was compiled with - 2nd, if i ignore that, it builds and after that it complains about something with wrong kernel-headers.. and nvidia.ko
[10:25] <linuxboy> LokeDK: you installed the nvidia package?
[10:25] <LokeDK> I have installed the new linux headers and maked an ln -s linux-headers-$(uname -r) linux
[10:25] <LokeDK> no
[10:25] <poningru> LokeDK: why not just use the apt one
[10:25] <LokeDK> i use.. from their website
[10:25] <LokeDK> dunno
[10:25] <LokeDK> :D
[10:25] <linuxboy> LokeDK: there is an ubuntu package for the drivers
[10:25] <LokeDK> oh okay.. what's the name of the package?
[10:25] <LokeDK> I've always used from the website since i started on linux
[10:26] <Answer> LokeDK: You should remove whatever you did so far...
[10:26] <linuxboy> LokeDK: search the forums
[10:26] <poningru> LokeDK: tsk tsk tsk
[10:26] <poningru> LokeDK: open up synaptic
[10:26] <Answer> LokeDK: nvidia-glx
[10:26] <poningru> and search for nvidia-glx
[10:26] <poningru> yeah that
[10:26] <LokeDK> thx
[10:26] <Answer> there is also nvidia-settings
[10:27] <MikeStyle> anyone know how i can customize my taskbar like making it rounded, transparent but kinda blurry see through
[10:27] <Thorondor> how do i know which sound device i have to use such that teamspeak, skype etc work?
[10:27] <linuxboy> poningru: isn't it in restricted?
[10:27] <Answer> MikeStyle: You could write an entire theme :)
[10:27] <FarrisG> Anyone have a guess as to why it takes so long for totem to start up?
[10:27] <MikeStyle> Answer, not that skilled :)