[10:55] <rifter> FunkyWeasel, if you still have pulseaudio installed
[10:55] <erUSUL> sabgenton: right
[10:56] <brjann> fuzzybunny, bummer. i'm out of ideas ;)
[10:56] <sabgenton> erUSUL:  /etc/default/grub does have that number yes but I still want to edit grub.cfg from time to time when I boot from another distro to that file
[10:56] <sabgenton> which you are saying is do able :)
[10:57] <hiexpo> llcoolhodge, those are always a piece of work use google and read you'll figure it out
[10:57] <erUSUL> sabgenton: i have it is the line ---> GRUB_DEFAULT=0
[10:57] <sabgenton> (yes  even though it will most likely get overiden )
[10:57] <llcoolhodge> i did but i am not computer literate
[10:57] <llcoolhodge> i am trying
[10:57] <sabgenton> erUSUL: I know how to do that
[10:57] <llcoolhodge> but i need someone to hel me out
[10:57] <FunkyWeasel> rifter: If I still have pulseaudo installed...?
[10:58] <sabgenton> I just want to know if I go against the grain and edit grub.cfg directly that I will be ok
[10:58] <llcoolhodge> can no one help me
[10:58] <erUSUL> sabgenton: ok; you came here with your mind already made up. not sure qwhy are you asking anything. just edit the file
[10:58] <joni_noplu> llcoolhodge, which emulator u want to install?
[10:58] <rifter> FunkyWeasel, what I mean by that is when pulseaudio is installed it replaces the esd commands with wrappers to pulseaudio
[10:58] <sabgenton> and the answer sounds like "yes but just don't come crying when it gets overwritten"
[10:59] <rifter> FunkyWeasel, nevertheless using the esd commands worked for me onsome applications
[10:59] <llcoolhodge> gameboy advance joni_noplu
[10:59] <sabgenton> ^because u have just enlightend me to what I have said above
[10:59] <ravionrails> when i open link in xchat it opened in firefox 3.5.8 but where it reside in my system how to check
[10:59] <rifter> llcoolhodge, I can helkp you hold up
[10:59] <rifter> llcoolhodge, there's a gba emulator in the normal repositories
[11:00] <sergiiyo> sipollo emiliyo xupame el pityo
[11:00] <airtonix> ravionrails, system > preferences > preferred applications
[11:00] <llcoolhodge> really
[11:00] <llcoolhodge> where is normal repositories rifter
[11:00] <rifter> llcoolhodge, do sudo apt-get install visualboyadvance-gtk from the command line
[11:00] <FunkyWeasel> rifter: Nice one.  Also downloading ISO for 9.10 in the hopes I get time this afternoon :)
[11:01] <sabgenton> erUSUL: so if i do go against the grain and edit grub.cfg I just need to back it up if I really want to hold on to those settings (as it will get overridden) :)
[11:01] <rifter> llcoolhodge, or go to system -> administration -> synaptic package manager
[11:01] <rifter> llcoolhodge, then search for visualboyadvance
[11:02] <rifter> llcoolhodge, click the visualboyadvance-gtk to get the one with graphical controls
[11:02] <rifter> llcoolhodge, and to answer your question on repositories, repositories are where packages you can install are stored. the normal ones are already set upwhen you install ubuntu
[11:02] <sabgenton> erUSUL: I know it's not the best but you have confirmed with me that  it's not just going to completely blow up in my face if I know a bit about how it works
[11:03] <llcoolhodge> where do i find the roms to play with are those going to be different also rifter
[11:03] <rifter> llcoolhodge, after you click the check box for visualboyadvance-gtk click apply and it shoudl be installed
[11:03] <llcoolhodge> yes i did that also rifter
[11:03] <rifter> llcoolhodge, can't helpyou on roms, that would be illegal.. but I hear google might know
[11:04] <erUSUL> sabgenton: i already said that you can just edit the file if you want.
[11:04] <erUSUL> !piracy | llcoolhodge
[11:04] <hiexpo> rifter, - that's why i wouldn't help him i already got a strike on me   lol
[11:05] <phat> so no one can help me?
[11:05] <sabgenton> erUSUL: except for one shot stuff I will put all my  permanent grub needs in  /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/*
[11:05] <al_> if i put some commands in a file
[11:05] <al_> can i then run the file?
[11:05] <rifter> hiexpo, yeah installing an emul;ator is not piracy. telling people where to find software is
[11:05] <al_> like a batch file?
[11:06] <sabgenton> erUSUL: can you just confirm that I have the picture right here?
[11:06] <sabgenton> erUSUL: and thanks for your help
[11:06] <erUSUL> sabgenton: yes
[11:06] <erUSUL> !grub2 | sabgenton
[11:06] <hiexpo> rifter, -  exately i got a nastyemail a week ago about that from fbi   :(
[11:07] <rifter> hiexpo, ouch..I would not like to get emails from the fbi
[11:07] <sabgenton> erUSUL: I only will edit grub.cfg  directly  if I have to boot in from an other distro cause something is broken
[11:07] <sabgenton> I do respect the guidelines
[11:07] <sabgenton> thx again :)
[11:07] <rifter> hiexpo, it freaked me out enough years ago when I got that one bill gates sent to everyone on earth
[11:07] <m_anish_> infid: just logged back ... hope ur problem's solved
[11:08] <hiexpo> rifter, -  oh ya i remember that
[11:08]  * m_anish_ reads up
[11:08] <root_> hey
[11:08] <nXhQXv2W> Looked through dmesg. how do I know what driver is loaded for my card?
[11:09] <Guest72761> anybody
[11:09] <Guest72761> i need some help
[11:09] <llcoolhodge> just to let all u nerds know i have the hard copies...it is not illegal to download rims if u have the actual games...then that becomes piracy...i also am in the US Navy so i wouldnt involve myself in something so stupid as to hurt my career
[11:09] <bazhang> Guest72761, then ask
[11:09] <hiexpo> rifter, -  ya the letter said you do what you want but don't be telling other people how to nor advise them of such
[11:09] <yeshuah> How do I restrict the resources used by a script run by cron?
[11:09] <Guest72761> how can i install beef on backtrack
[11:10] <rifter> hiexpo, I also got one of their nasty snail mail letters they sent to everyone threatening that they would say they were pirates if they did not buy more copies of windows.  That was annnoying. what awas more annoying is that companies and governments caved in on those threats
[11:10] <bazhang> Guest72761, join the backtrack channel and ask
[11:10] <brjann> yeshuah, do you just want to make it play nicely and not interfere with interactive processes?
[11:10] <bazhang> Guest72761, /join #backtrack-linux
[11:10] <Guest72761> how can i install beef on backtrack?
[11:10] <hiexpo> rifter, -  yep was scare tactics
[11:11] <yeshuah> brjann: I have a python script which runs once a day - but it is running for 1-2 hours and during this time, all my other processes (webservers) are crippled
[11:11] <Guest72761> thanx
[11:11] <airtonix> Guest71216, you can only have bacon
[11:11] <rifter> hiexpo, I made sure form then on to use linux
[11:11] <rifter> hiexpo, like ernie ball
[11:11] <brjann> yeshuah, the simplest thing to try is the 'nice' command
[11:11] <erUSUL> yeshuah: nice ionice it ?
[11:11] <hiexpo> Guest72761, help with backtrack is at backtrack-linux
[11:11] <rifter> yeshuah, renice the process
[11:11] <theadmin> Hm. Help please. I want display not to fade out when my computa is idle, i set everything in Power Management to "Never" already, yet it still does it!
[11:12] <rifter> yeshuah, and you can use nice when you call it
[11:12] <rifter> yeshuah, the next time
[11:12] <yeshuah> rifter:  (And others) ok thanks - will look up renice and ionice
[11:12] <joni_noplu> theadmin, check screensaver settings
[11:12] <rifter> theadmin, it is probably your monitor
[11:12] <brjann> yeshuah, and just plain old nice
[11:12] <theadmin> joni_noplu: o_O *checks*
[11:13] <theadmin> rifter: nah, it has no such settings at all
[11:13] <rifter> theadmin, somemonitors blank on their own
[11:13] <rifter> theadmin, butcheck screen saver first
[11:13] <yeshuah> brjann: whats the difference?
[11:13] <theadmin> rifter: Yep. It was the problem... Weird screensaver there.
[11:13] <brjann> yeshuah, nice launches a process with a given niceness. renice changes the niceness of an already-running process. ionice is like nice, but for IO instead of load
[11:14] <peleg_> Since the upgrade to 8.04, all mp3s I hear are being "cut" every few seconds; that is, the song playing is not fluent, I have this "bumps" or something in the middle of it
[11:14] <hiexpo> rifter, -  yah me to i hate windows buti still use a few programs that are only supported on windows cause i have not found a suitable solution yet like dvdfab and dvd shrink is all
[11:14] <erUSUL> !info schedtool | yeshuah
[11:16] <hiexpo> rifter, -  but i am working on a simalar one to dvdfab for linux
[11:16] <peleg_> That's awful, I can't really enjoy music that way any more.
[11:17] <peleg_> I think that maybe the upgrade killed one of my encoders
[11:18] <candy__> I've
[11:18] <candy__> vista n i installed ubuntu. It shows grub loading then directly takes
[11:18] <candy__> to ubuntu rather than asking. Grub2 is there and when i saw grub.d
[11:18] <candy__> files it has no files for vista only default files, now should i create
[11:18] <candy__> a custom file for windows vista? How to add other os to grub menu?
[11:18] <FloodBot3> candy__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:18] <erUSUL> !grub2 | candy__
[11:18] <bazhang> candy__, did you try sudo update-grub
[11:19] <nXhQXv2W> How do I know what driver is loaded for my card?
[11:19] <rifter> peleg, well if it was that wouldn't the sounds not play at all?  what did you upgrade from?  maybe it's a mixer thning. what kind of apps are you using to play the mp3s?
[11:19] <indus> candy__, Hi, other OS can be added by editing the file , /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[11:19] <candy__> bazhang, yes but it didnt work
[11:19] <rifter> nXhQXv2W, it should show up in dmesg
[11:19] <indus> candy__, try installking os prober and run it
[11:19] <candy__> indus, but i cant find my other os drive, it only show filesystem of linux not others
[11:20] <indus> candy__, sudo apt-get install os-prober
[11:20] <nXhQXv2W> rifter: ill try again. is there any reference I should look at?
[11:21] <rifter> nXhQXv2W, this was your wireless card, right? I missed that part
[11:21] <nXhQXv2W> rifter: yes
[11:22] <GUcko1> guys what are "personal package archives" 'ppa'?
[11:22] <jpds> !ppa | GUcko1
[11:22] <rifter> nXhQXv2W, then you want to look for whether the card got configured under eth0, eth1, or ath0
[11:22] <rifter> nXhQXv2W, what's happening with it now?
[11:22] <indus> GUcko1, that factoid sucks
[11:22] <peleg_> rifter, I have upgraded from 7.10, and I am using VLC. At the moment I am trying to play it with mplayer to see if the problem exists also there.
[11:22] <candy__> indus, ll give a try
[11:22] <indus> GUcko1, a ppa lets you install the latest versions of a software
[11:22] <jpds> indus: Howso?
[11:22] <gartral|p> hey all, im trying to reinstall ubuntu onto my dektop, i keep booting into graphical mode from the cd and getting AUTHENTICATION ERROR" on te vts and Ubuntu on the login screen, not letting me login at all..
[11:23] <jpds> indus: No.
[11:23] <indus> GUcko1, its risky and do it at your own risk
[11:23] <jpds> indus: Only the versions that are packaged in it.
[11:23] <indus> jpds, the factoid talks from a developer point of view ,
[11:23] <indus> i and many others aint interested with it
[11:24] <indus> GUcko1, anyways, so what do you want to do with a PPA
[11:24] <rifter> nXhQXv2W, of course if it did it would show up under ifconfig
[11:24] <yeshuah> brjann: ok have run renice on the process running now - setting it to 19 - but I get no performance increase on my webserver
[11:24] <brjann> yeshuah, what is the script doing exactly?
[11:25] <rifter> nXhQXv2W, otherwise you just have to go through dmesg trying to see if you see something about wireless
[11:25] <peleg_> rifter, actually, it looks like the problem does not occur using mplayer. So: is it possilbe that vlc has a problem due to the upgrade?
[11:25] <brjann> yeshuah, IO-heavy work? number crunching?
[11:25] <indus> GUcko1, for example with the wine ppa, you get to use the latest versions of wine instead of those from the repository ,but it will be unstable or might be
[11:25] <abukamel> #linuxac
[11:25] <rifter> peleg, maybe or maybe vlc is using a different mixer
[11:25] <yeshuah> brjann: it's parsing an xls file - comparing to an xml file - and creating a 2nd xml file from this
[11:25] <rifter> peleg, I'd say the latter is more likely
[11:25] <yeshuah> brjann: so maybe ionice is more important?
[11:26] <nXhQXv2W> rifter: Thanks found it..
[11:26] <gartral|p> how do i tell ubuntu to load the cd toram?
[11:26] <brjann> yeshuah, could be, if it's hitting the disk often enough that it's increasing latency for everybody
[11:26] <peleg_> rifter, I see... have any idea how can I check that? How can I check what mixer does it use, and how can I check the mixer itself?
[11:27] <rifter> peleg, you can force the mixer by adding a command to the startup, for instance esddsp will tell it to use esd, padsp will tell it to use pulseaudio
[11:27] <erUSUL> yeshuah: is the process heavy on i/o ?
[11:27] <abukamel> #linuxac
[11:27] <GUcko1> Indus: I'm having trouble with the video card on my new Inspiron that has core i3 and integrated Intel graphic chip :(
[11:27] <gartral|p> whaTs the ubuntu equivelent to linux=toram
[11:27] <rifter> peleg, well some programs let you change the mixer in configurations or commands; I'm not sure how to do that to vlc, but I do know if you prepend one of those commands it will reroute the sound t o a different mixer
[11:27] <indus> GUcko1, which version of ubuntu? upgrade to latest
[11:27] <RolandD> Here is an issue that has been bugging me for years and now it is time to get it solved :) I am running Ubuntu 9.10 and AMP. All is working fine except I cannot edit any files with my own username. All files are set to www-data:www-data and permissions to 644. My account is added to the www-data group. How can I edit files without having to use sudo?
[11:28] <GUcko1> Indus: 9.10
[11:28] <indus> !intel
[11:28] <indus> ok old
[11:28] <jrib> RolandD: give the group write permissions
[11:28] <GUcko1> Indus: The new CPUs have the graphic chip integrated with the CPU
[11:28] <rifter> yeshuah, nice won't necessarily change the cpu load of a process.  what it does is give more slices to other processes
[11:28] <bazhang> indus, 9.10 is not old
[11:28] <brjann> RolandD, 644 means u=rw, g=r, o=r. you want 664 if you want to be able to write.
[11:28] <indus> yes my comment was posted before
[11:29] <Sh3r1ff> RolandD: you can't edit because the group rights are set to only read
[11:29] <jrib> RolandD: or better yet, make a new group since you probably don't want apache to be able to write to all you files (it already can)
[11:29] <indus> but one thing i know is core i3 all features are not used by the kernel in 9.10
[11:29] <Sh3r1ff> RolandD: if you want to edit them with your user, change the rights to 664
[11:29] <gartral|p> how do i load the cd to ram?
[11:29] <RolandD> jrib: the files are uploaded via the Joomla installer, this would mean I need to keep changing persmission every time I upload?
[11:29] <RolandD> or can I set a default value?
[11:29] <yeshuah> rifter: alright - so far neither renice or ionice have changed anything
[11:29] <jrib> RolandD: change the joomla preferences
[11:29] <gartral|p> same for the i7
[11:29] <indus> GUcko1, wow graphics integrated with cpu hmm
[11:29] <RolandD> Thanks a lot guys, I am going to try it
[11:30] <indus> ya and for i7
[11:30] <indus> but possiblly in lucid
[11:30] <indus> the turbo mode i believe
[11:30] <madura> can i get some help on using ncurses with gcc??
[11:30] <rifter> yeshuah, is it possible for you to convert that xls file to a csv or xml?  because it's possible that reading that file is more intensive than it would be a regular csv or xml
[11:30] <gartral|p> indus do you know how to load the cd to ram before starting up
[11:30] <hiexpo> rifter, -  have you tried lucyd yet?
[11:30] <jrib> madura: be more specific
[11:30] <peleg_> rifter, sorry, for technical reasons I have missed your last 3-4 sentences...
[11:30] <erUSUL> madura: what kind of help ? how to install dev package of ncurses?
[11:31] <brjann> yeshuah, if nicing doesn't help you might want to read up on /etc/security/limits.conf next :)
[11:31] <indus> gartral|p, what you mean ?
[11:31] <indus> gartral|p, hi
[11:31] <yeshuah> rifter: the conversion from xls to csv would have to occur on the server aswell as the xls is all we get from the supplier.
[11:31] <hiexpo> rifter, -  have you tried lucid
[11:31] <yeshuah> brjann: will take a peep
[11:31] <rifter> hiexpo, no
[11:31] <gartral|p> linux=toram... need to load cd to ram then run installer
[11:32] <gartral|p> indus ^^^^
[11:32] <indus> isnt live cd running from ram already
[11:32] <madura> jrib: I installed the libraries from package manager and then wrote this small ncurses prog which uses initscr() but the compiler says it cant find that function
[11:32] <hiexpo> rifter, -  was wondering if it's as good as karmic
[11:32] <brjann> yeshuah, be forewarned though that limits can be set harsh enough to cause the kernel to kill the process, and you probably don't want that. so tread lightly. :)
[11:32] <gartral|p> indus no, it still accesses cd for alot of resources
[11:32] <jrib> madura: what did you install exactly?  Did you install the -dev package for ncurses?
[11:33] <indus> gartral|p, i have no idea how to load all into ram,too technical :)
[11:33] <madura> jrib: well it has the header file now ...what is the name of dev package?
[11:33] <indus> gartral|p, like a core dump hmppffffff
[11:33] <jrib> madura: apt-cache search -n ncurses dev
[11:33] <gartral|p> the OLD debian flag was linux or debian=toram
[11:34] <indus> gartral|p, oh ok
[11:35] <Andys^> why does my Windows Key not work in ubuntu?
[11:35] <madura> jrib: i've installed libncurses5-dev
[11:35] <joni_noplu> Andys^, what do u expect it to do?
[11:36] <Kimo> How to resolve this Problem In Nvidia-Setting
[11:36] <Kimo> Unable to load X Server Display Configuration page:
[11:36] <Kimo> Failed to query NoScanout for screen 0.
[11:36] <drizzt_> Andys^: do you have some x-function map[ped on it?
[11:36] <madura> jrib:  i installed another package for C but still the same
[11:37] <yeshuah> brjann: ok sounds scary - ok I can see with free that all my memory is being filled by the process - is there anyway to limit a process to only use like 50 of available RAM? - or this is /etc/security/limits.conf ?
[11:37] <madura> jrib: undefined reference to `initscr'
[11:37] <hiexpo> i got a question that bugs me how come whenever i install a deb package it always shows up in synaptic as installed local or obsolete
[11:38] <rifter> joni_noplu wellin some distributions it opens the application menu
[11:38] <rifter> joni_noplu  I remember it working like that ages ago on kde and gnome
[11:39] <erUSUL> madura: did you pass "-lncurses" to gcc ?
[11:39] <rifter> yeshuah, that would be limits.conf yes
[11:39] <madura> i passed lcurses
[11:39] <chrizthop> hello n_n
[11:39] <rww> hiexpo: "local or obsolete" means it's not in the Ubuntu repositories. If you installed it from a /local/ package, it is indeed local, and thus belongs there.
[11:39] <gartral|p> joni_noplu its better known as the meta key.. and it does worl, it just isnt mapped to do anything
[11:39] <madura> erUSUL:
[11:40] <gartral|p> work
[11:40] <rww> hiexpo: ("local" meaning a .deb file you downloaded rather than something you got from the repos)
[11:40] <gartral|p> droid keyboard hard to type on
[11:40] <hiexpo> rww, got cha thanx
[11:40] <Kimo> how i cant get accese to Ubuntu french chanel
[11:40] <erUSUL> !fr
[11:40] <rww> Kimo: type /join #ubuntu-fr
[11:41] <Kimo> Ok Thanks
[11:41] <gartral|p> kimo thank you for asking in english! ;)
[11:42] <hatasu> hi all, i have some problem :(
[11:42] <Kimo> im just a starter in english
[11:42] <gartral|p> wow.. my computer hung loading the live enviroment
[11:43] <indus> Kimo, just click here #ubuntu-fr
[11:43] <rags> hello, I just did a safe upgrade on Hardy and I get some lilo warnings ...the total upgrade went thru..But now I'm a bit worried with the warnings..I see "Warning: LBA32 addressing assumed"..reason for concern?
[11:43] <brjann> yeshuah, are you sure your process is actually using all the memory? it's normal for the free memory to be low, as the kernel uses the space for IO buffers, etc
[11:43] <yeshuah> brjann:
[11:43] <hatasu> i install ubuntu yesterday, and i can see windows in boot screen
[11:43] <Kimo> thanks i'm now in french ubuntu channel
[11:43] <indus> hatasu, and
[11:43] <NCS_One> hi
[11:44] <NCS_One> a HD only can have 4 primary partitions ?
[11:44] <hatasu> can't
[11:44] <hatasu> sorry :P
[11:44] <zeroXten> anyone know how best to script window interactions in Gnome? Something like AutoIT/AutoHotKey - list windows (like wmctrl) but also look for OK buttons, send clicks etc?
[11:44] <gartral|p> not without !lvm
[11:45] <Superbest> how do I disable the checks for too simple password, too similar password, etc?
[11:45] <erUSUL> madura: then i dunno
[11:45] <yeshuah> brjann: hmm according to pmap then 0k
[11:45] <gartral|p> superbeast recompile an older kernal
[11:45] <jrib> madura: pastebin your code...
[11:46] <Superbest> gartral|p, woah seriously?
[11:46] <madura> jrib: k wait
[11:46] <gartral|p> yea, strict passwords is a kernal thing now
[11:46] <rifter> rags, lba32 addressing assumed should be fine. unless your drive is over 20 years old
[11:46] <brjann> yeshuah, probably because your script is running as root and you're not? try sudo pmap <pid> :)
[11:46] <Superbest> gartral|p, that's absurd! It doesn't even work properly
[11:46] <yeshuah> brjann: ah no - just forgot to run with sudo - 463564K
[11:46] <gartral|p> you can ignor it though and use a "weak" password
[11:46] <Superbest> gartral|p, it wn't let me from the about me screen
[11:47] <rifter> yeshua top will show  you how much memory it is actually using
[11:47] <hatasu> again... i install ubuntu yesterday, and i can't see windows in boot screen. what can i do?
[11:47] <gartral|p> neither does freaking pulse!
[11:47] <madura> jrib its acutally an example
[11:47] <madura> jrib: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NCURSES-Programming-HOWTO/ncurses_programs/basics/scanw_example.c
[11:47] <brjann> yeshuah, hm. i'm not sure what the best way to limit the memory usage is without risking killing the script.
[11:47] <rifter> hatasu, it must not have configured grub automatically to boot to windows
[11:47] <rags> rifter: there are a couple of warnings actaully :http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/3L8NU6eb
[11:48] <rifter> hatasu, you'll need to add it
[11:48] <gartral|p> alright, i have a 4000 dpi mouse.. wheres mouse sensativity in ubuntu
[11:48] <brjann> yeshuah, so i will take this opportunity to go to bed :) sorry i couldn't help more!
[11:48] <oranosx> hey, is it possible to install Plymouth on Karmic?
[11:48] <yeshuah> brjann: thanks for trying to help
[11:48] <hatasu> rifter: how?
[11:48] <jrib> madura: pastebin what you are running in a terminal and the full output
[11:48] <gartral|p> ban os2mac.. chinese spammobot
[11:49] <phone_voip> llamadas muy baratas incluso gratis 955170000 mas informacion http://www.955170000.com
[11:49] <Superbest> gartral|p, ok so here's the problem: I set a 7 letter pass at install, then decided to add another one
[11:49] <gartral|p> another password or another letter?
[11:49] <Superbest> gartral|p, but apparently they were too similar so I couldn't change my pass from "randompas" to "randompass"
[11:49] <indus> oranosx, its still being tested in lucid
[11:49] <rifter> rags, I think you should be okay with those warnings.. but can you paste your lilo.conf?
[11:50] <Superbest> gartral|p, so I set up a temporary password with like 10 letters instead
[11:50] <rifter> hatasu, a moment
[11:50] <Superbest> gartral|p, but now I can't set it to anything that is shorter
[11:50] <hatasu> ok, thanks
[11:50] <rags> rifter: Thx for looking at it...I'll give you the conf...jus a sec
[11:51] <yeshuah> rifter: running top on the user running the script I get - http://dpaste.com/165146/
[11:51] <madura> jrib: i was compiling on codeblocks ..now i tried on the terminal manually then it worked thanks for the help i'll try to get it working on codeblocks
[11:51] <gartral|p> superbeast your going to have to restart into the recovery shell, set your password there, then reboot back
[11:51] <rags> rifter: I am using software raid1..maybe that is the reason for the warnings...
[11:51] <rifter> hatasu, this is the howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:51] <nXhQXv2W> how do I know what version of the kernel I am running?
[11:51] <Superbest> gartral|p, what's the command for password change?
[11:52] <rifter> hatasu, but you need to know what drive windows is on. is it onthe same drive as ubuntu is? or another drive
[11:52] <hiexpo> uname -r
[11:52] <rifter> rags, aha that makes sense then
[11:53] <hatasu> rifter: same
[11:53] <rags> rifter: so it won't affect the boot process right?
[11:53] <nXhQXv2W> Superbest: passwd
[11:53] <Superbest> ok thanks guys
[11:53] <hatasu> another partition
[11:53] <rifter> yeshuah, wellno wonder. your python script is thrashing swap
[11:53] <nXhQXv2W> hiexpo: thanks.
[11:54] <hiexpo> no prob
[11:54] <rifter> rags, it shouldn't but I still wanna see the conf to be sure
[11:54] <yeshuah> rifter: is VIRT == swap?
[11:54] <rifter> yeshuah, yes
[11:54] <rifter> yeshuah, and when a proces uses more swp, it uses more cpu and more hard disk
[11:55] <yeshuah> rifter: yeah cos it's continually writing from memory to the disk and back again
[11:55] <rifter> yeshuah, so, what does the top part of top look like as far as memory utilization?
[11:55] <yeshuah> rifter: http://dpaste.com/165149/
[11:55] <rifter> hatasu, ok so when you do a df -h what drive/partition does it say /is on
[11:56] <rags> rifter: Here's my lilo.conf, I've removed the commented stuff out : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/K1mJK9HA
[11:57] <rifter> yeshuah, yeah you are using all your ram and all your swap ... you should hit o to change order and then q to change to resident memory to see what processes are using your real ram
[11:58] <rifter> yeshuah, oh wait,duh, top is worng about the total res used, but not the per process
[11:58] <alabd> hello , Pidgon does not join to yahoo room why ?
[11:59] <yeshuah> rifter: so I guess I just have to find a way to optimize the script itself instead then?
[11:59] <rifter> yeshuah, when you use the free command it has a second line that gives the total used without buffers included (linux uses practically all your ram for buffers by default,but it frees that when it is needed) since you have all your swap being used,though, it makes me think you might really be using all that memory
[12:00] <dlynes> alabd, try in #pidgin
[12:00] <rifter> yeshuah, well,what is using the ram?
[12:00] <alabd> dlynes:  tried
[12:00] <shroomM> hey all, i'd like to install gcc4.4.3 on ubuntu 9.10 karmic but am a bit of a noob when it comes to linux. any tips as i can't find the latest version in the repositories ?
[12:00] <dlynes> alabd, they would know a lot better than an average ubuntu user, considering how they're all guaranteed to be pidgin users
[12:01] <dlynes> alabd, maybe you just have to catch the channel at a different time of the day
[12:01] <rifter> rags, I don't know why it was complaining about /dev/sdb then,unless that is part of the raid or something
[12:02] <rags> rifter: It is part of the raid...
[12:02] <rww> shroomM: The repositories have 4.4.1, not 4.4.3. Is that sufficient?
[12:02] <rifter> rags, ahok. well it's probably fine then
[12:02] <shroomM> hmm, i'm not sure tbh
[12:02] <docmax> hi how can i download all videos beneath an internet adresse?
[12:02] <shroomM> i'm trying to compile x264 and ffmpeg
[12:03] <shroomM> i seem to recall x264 was miscompiling with a previous version of gcc
[12:03] <docmax> http://joomla.addison-wesley.de/Joomla-1.5-stable-Video-Training   i want all videos at the bottom of the site
[12:03] <dlynes> Has anyone heard whether the nfs boot script ordering issue is going to be fixed in karmic?
[12:03] <shroomM> but am not sure whether it was 4.4.1 or 4.4.2
[12:03] <rags> rifter: it looks like it wrote the records to /dev/sd*...but the actaul disks are md0 and md1 i.e the raid disks...I hope that is fine?
[12:03] <Guest52262> help i have right clicked on folder and in   open with option i have changed it to vlc now every folder opens with vlc iam using ubuntu  hel guys
[12:04] <dlynes> The nfs boot script ordering issue is haunting me about 2 out of every 3 boots on some machines, and 1 out of every 5 boots on others
[12:04] <yeshuah> rifter: I presume loading a 3.6mb xml file and 4000line xls file into python - while trying to produce a 1.5mb xml at the time - probably has something to do with it
[12:04] <rifter> rags, well I haven't messed with the software raiding,I do it all with hardware. but I would think that since software raid is controlled by the kernel your boot loader still has to reside on one of the physical disks
[12:05] <rifter> yeshuah, well that would be a factor in the load the script imposes
[12:05] <godatworld> ubuntu 9.10 freezes on boot
[12:05] <rifter> yeshuah, maybe you can do that processing on another machine somehow?
[12:05] <Guest84878> Hello please help an update to the stable release kernel vmlinuz-2.6.33-020,633-generic and when you log says that no move to find a video carats
[12:05] <rifter> yeshuah, I'm not trying to impose solutions; I want to help you find one that fits your constraints
[12:05] <shroomM> rww: is the process of upgrading to 4.4.3 complicated ?
[12:05] <godatworld> please help. ubuntu 9.10 freezes on boot
[12:05] <rags> rifter: Makes perfect sense...also that be the only way it can boot if other disk fails...ok..Thx buddy..
[12:06] <godatworld> Alt-Ctrl-F1 doesn't help
[12:06] <rww> shroomM: It's not in Karmic's repositories, and therefore is unsupported. I personally don't know whether it's doable or how to do it.
[12:06] <rifter> rags, good luck happy hacking
[12:06] <godatworld> trying to boot from live-usb created from livecd
[12:06] <shroomM> rww: oh, i see. thanks anyways
[12:06] <rifter> godatworld, have you tried adding acpi=off to the boot load options?
[12:06] <yeshuah> rifter: not really - we only have this one slice to do with - I'm thinking of perhaps utilizing a database - so I will load the xml and xls individually and loat their data into a temp db - delete them from memory and then do the comparison by database calls - but not sure wether the amounts of calls on the db will be better for performance
[12:07] <RolandD> Ok I got it all figured out. I only needed to put umask 002 in the /etc/apache2/envvars file
[12:07] <RolandD> thanks for the pointers
[12:07] <Guest66193> Could anyone tell me the ubuntu command to search inside files via terminal?
[12:07] <Guest66193> grep location whatyourelookingfor
[12:07] <jrib> Guest66193: grep
[12:07] <Guest66193> ?
[12:08] <jrib> Guest66193: if you type « man grep » the first few lines will describe the syntax
[12:08] <Guest66193> thx
[12:09] <hatasu> rifter: i do df -h, but i windows partition is off (i cant see here)
[12:09] <Vecnah> hello , is there a way to have empathy sounds working on karmic ?
[12:10] <hatasu> rifter, but i can see win partition in Places
[12:10] <funqshun> hello how do i change what appears on my top panel next to 'Places' and 'System'
[12:11] <rifter> hatasu, I know it won'tbe there
[12:11] <rifter> hatasu, right but we need the disk name
[12:11] <rifter> hatasu, /dev/sd?
[12:11] <hatasu> where can i see that?
[12:12] <hatasu> ohhh dev
[12:12] <rifter> well for instance when I do df -h I have
[12:12] <rifter> /dev/sda1              48G   45G  3.1G  94% /
[12:12] <yeshuah> rifter: thanks for the help - will go back to look at the code and start profiling - and seek out answers in #python instead which is more appropriate
[12:12] <backtrack12> help i have right clicked on folder and in   open with option i have changed it to vlc now every folder opens with vlc iam using ubuntu  help guys i want to open folder
[12:12] <rifter> so my / is /dev/sda1
[12:13] <rifter> hatasu, once we know the disk we can find your windows partition
[12:13] <tu> pigilla
[12:14] <rifter> hatasu, the disk my partitoons are on is /dev/sda
[12:14] <hatasu>  /dev/sda1 <- windows
[12:14] <tu> in espanhis
[12:14] <hatasu>  /dev/sda7 <- ubuntu
[12:14] <tu> hnh a¡
[12:14] <bazhang> tu /join #ubuntu-es
[12:14] <rifter> hatasu, ah you already knew what partition windows was on, ok that saves us a couple of steps :D
[12:14] <tu> jon
[12:14] <Gryllida> Is there a MatLab / Mathcad-like application for Ubuntu, functioning for engineering calculations, bestly open-source?
[12:14] <funqshun> 2 cups all-purpose enriched unbleached flour
[12:14] <funqshun> 1 cup bread flour (or all-purpose flour, if you do not have bread flour)
[12:14] <funqshun> 1 teaspoon yeast
[12:14] <funqshun> 1 teaspoon salt
[12:14] <funqshun> 1/8 cup sugar
[12:14] <funqshun> 1 cup warm milk
[12:14] <funqshun> 2 tablespoons butter
[12:14] <FloodBot3> funqshun: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:15] <hatasu> great :P
[12:15] <bazhang> funqshun, ??
[12:15] <backtrack12> help i have right clicked on folder and in   open with option i have changed it to vlc now every folder opens with vlc iam using ubuntu  help guys i want to open folder
[12:15] <jrib> Gryllida: sage, maxima, scilab, numpy (matlab also runs on linux)
[12:15] <godatworld> as well as Mathematica
[12:16] <Gryllida> Which of them are open-source?
[12:16] <godatworld> sage, maxima, scilab, numpy
[12:16] <Gryllida> Okay...
[12:16] <jrib> Gryllida: oh and octave too.  Everything I listed is open source, except matlab
[12:16] <godatworld> octave == "shortened" matlab
[12:16] <godatworld> but os
[12:16]  * Gryllida went to google the answers, since these short names didn't tell a single bit of impression
[12:17] <backtrack12> help i have right clicked on folder and in   open with option i have changed it to vlc now every folder opens with vlc iam using ubuntu  help guys i want to open folder
[12:17] <jrib> backtrack12: can't you right click on it again and change it?
[12:17] <backtrack12> nope
[12:18] <jrib> backtrack12: how come?
[12:18] <backtrack12> how to set it default
[12:18] <bazhang> backtrack12, on a folder? where is this 'open with' option you speak of?
[12:19] <sandrita> olaa
[12:19] <sandrita> olaa
[12:19] <sandrita> olaa
[12:19] <bazhang> sandrita, english here please
[12:19] <sandrita> nose ingles
[12:19] <sandrita> muxoo
[12:20] <backtrack12> when u right click on folder
[12:20] <sandrita> olaa
[12:20] <backtrack12> in backtrack
[12:20] <sandrita> ai alwien ok¿?
[12:20] <backtrack12> bazhang
[12:20] <rww> !es | sandrita
[12:20] <bazhang> backtrack12, then this is not Ubuntu, but backtrack?
[12:20] <sandrita> siii
[12:20] <sandrita> tu kien eres¿?
[12:21] <backtrack12> yea but based on unbuntu8.10
[12:21] <bazhang> backtrack12, derivatives are not supported here /join #backtrack-linux for support
[12:22] <hatasu> rifter: According to the disk utility, Windows is on /dev/sda1
[12:22] <rifter> hatasu, yes
[12:23] <rifter> hatasu, this seems to be the best guide to what you need in menu.lst to get windows to boot http://boff.wordpress.com/2007/01/17/editing-bootgrubmenulst-to-change-the-grub-boot-menu/
[12:23] <Gryllida> jrib: I have to be more specific, since your answers are related to programming. I want an app in which I could type math equations, they should be what you see is what you get; then I should be able to hit a "calculate" button to know the value of a constant expression; or I could hit a "plot in 2D" button to see a graph, in case it is a function of x, and so on... All your suggestions look...
[12:23] <Gryllida> ...like applications of programming in math, but I am not very ready to it. Maybe you know some thing more close to what I mean?
[12:23] <hatasu> ok, i read that, thanks
[12:23] <jrib> Gryllida: everything I said except numpy fits that description
[12:24] <rifter> hatasu, when you edit it make sure you make a copy of it first (cp -pv /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst-02-26-2010)
[12:24] <Gryllida> jrib: really? I will try to see that again
[12:24] <ectropy> Hi, all: I'm having trouble connecting to my router using iwconfig/dhclient. Please see my paste, and thanks in advance: http://pastebin.com/TUjJaX83
[12:24] <rifter> hatasu, and don't change the entries for linux,only check.//change the one for windows
[12:24] <hatasu> ok
[12:24] <hatasu> cp: cannot stat `/boot/grub/menu.lst': No such file or directory
[12:25] <hatasu> :P
[12:25] <rifter> hatasu, hmm
[12:26] <rifter> hatasu, you know,I don't have one either .. let me do soem more digging
[12:26] <rww> rifter, hatasu: I'm guessing grub2, which doesn't use that file. The list of files it does use follow.
[12:26] <rww> ubottu: grub2 | rifter, hatasu
[12:26] <rww> awesome informative link :) ^^^
[12:26] <ectropy> whoops
[12:26] <rifter> rww thank you
[12:26] <ectropy> forgot to append my error
[12:27] <rifter> rww my grub is not as good as I would like; I am way more familiar with lilo
[12:27] <ectropy> Hi, all: I'm having trouble connecting to my router using iwconfig/dhclient. Please see my paste, and thanks in advance: http://pastebin.com/b8qt3jtC
[12:27] <sAiLiN> is there a channel for ppl that crack wpa?
[12:27] <sAiLiN> is there a channel for ppl that crack wpa? any1 pls
[12:27] <bazhang> sAiLiN, no.
[12:28] <nXhQXv2W> yeshuah: How often does the xls file from your vendor change?
[12:28] <sAiLiN> anything that has 2 do with dat?
[12:28] <nXhQXv2W> ..
[12:29] <bazhang> sAiLiN, offtopic and not supported, please stop asking
[12:29] <rifter> rww aha that'swhere that /etc/grub.d/40_custom came fromearlieer
[12:29] <sAiLiN> sorry
[12:29] <rifter> I remembered someone referencing that before :P
[12:30] <wifiprob> hello i installed ubuntu yesterday. and i cannot get mu wireless adapter to work. i installed ndiswrapper and wicd. but wicd cannot find any wireless networks. can anybody help?
[12:30] <luist> how can i replace string AAA for string BBB in all of the occurrences in files of a folder recursively?
[12:31] <jrib> luist: use find with -exec and sed
[12:31] <huashao> hello everyone
[12:32] <Gryllida> jrib: I went to read about GNU Octave. I found http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Octave_session.png and http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Octave_screenshot.png . They are both command line. Could you please find a WYSIWYG screenshot of this app? I got interested in it since it is compatible with MatLab
[12:32] <rifter> luist, find [your folder] 2>&1 | xargs sed 's/BBB/AAA/g'
[12:32] <admdor> hi !
[12:32] <admdor> how are you ?
[12:32] <zamba> how do i wipe the database for strigi?
[12:32] <zamba> it's using several Gs worth of space
[12:32] <Gryllida> !hi | huashao
[12:32] <madura> hey how can i read TeX files?
[12:32] <huashao> HI
[12:33] <Gryllida> >	!hi | huashao
[12:33] <Gryllida> !hi | huashao
[12:33] <bazhang> Gryllida, no need to repeat it
[12:33] <jrib> Gryllida: search for "graphical frontend octave"
[12:33] <luist> rifter, this gives me error: sed: read error on .: Is a directory
[12:33] <Gryllida> jrib: ok
[12:33] <huashao> just do it
[12:33] <madura> is there reader for TeX files?
[12:34] <huashao> google
[12:34] <jrib> Gryllida: qtoctave seems to be in the repositories
[12:34] <jrib> madura: any text editor...
[12:34] <godatworld> Ok, turns out I misdescribed the problem: It actually loads X, as I can move cursor, but gnome-panel never shows up (just the black screen and the cross which responds to mouse). Ctrl-Alt-F1 & Ctrl-Alt-Backspace don't work, the keyboard is irresponsive (only Caps Lock works), so I can't access console. If I press power button, it actually shows the console with the standard "The system is...
[12:34] <madura> jrib it has some keywords like \relsize i see them too!
[12:34] <godatworld> ...going down", but there aren't any error messages above it (in the init level). Again, I can't access /var/log, as can't access console in a normal way. Tried acpi=off with and without noapic, no change.
[12:34] <erUSUL> luist: what gives that error?
[12:34] <jrib> madura: huh?
[12:35] <madura> jrib for example : "Don't use {\bf printf()} or {\bf cout} for debugging!"
[12:35] <hatasu> rifter, what would I need to edit now?
[12:35] <jrib> madura: what about it?
[12:35] <luist> erUSUL, find . 2>&1 | xargs sed 's/BBB/AAA/g'
[12:36] <madura> jrib cant i get rid of that n see only the document text?
[12:36] <jrib> madura: compile it and view the pdf, ps, dvi, whatever, right?
[12:36] <godatworld> madura: TEX files should be compiled
[12:36] <rifter> luist, ok gimme a sec
[12:36] <rifter> hatasu, /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[12:37] <madura> jrib: godatworld aahh how can i do that?
[12:37] <godatworld> madura: there is a gui for TeX - kile
[12:37] <rifter> hatasu, and make sure you back it up first
[12:37] <godatworld> from kde)
[12:37] <jrib> madura: latex file.tex
[12:37] <godatworld> or texmaker
[12:37] <hatasu> ok
[12:37] <rifter> hatasu, follow the directions on that page and update grub after you change the file
[12:37] <madura> godatworld: thanks :)
[12:38] <zamba> i've been using aufs for a while.. i have this entry in /etc/fstab: "aufs / aufs relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1"
[12:38] <zamba> that's the only place where / is mounted.. how is this even possible?
[12:38] <maria> hello
[12:38] <ubuntu> ciao
[12:38] <zamba> where's the reference to the physical disk?
[12:38] <mneptok> !info lyx > madura
[12:38] <maria> soy española
[12:38] <zamba> !hi | maria
[12:38] <ubuntu> hola maria
[12:38] <madura> thanks mneptok
[12:39] <rifter> luist you need to add -type f
[12:39] <rifter> luist sorry about that
[12:39] <luist> rifter, oh to the find?
[12:39] <rifter> find [your folder] -type f
[12:39] <rifter> find [your folder] -type f |  xargs sed 's/BBB/AAA/g'
[12:39] <luist> its reading binaries too is that ok
[12:40] <rifter> luist, well that is a problem
[12:40] <godatworld> lyx is WYSIWYG
[12:40] <AlienDK> I LIKE UBUNTU
[12:40] <godatworld> not for novices
[12:40] <godatworld> as it lacks the structure of TEX
[12:40] <rifter> luist, you probably don't want to change strings in a binary, taht makes the script a little tougher but hi si show you do it
[12:40] <Josh90> Chaning the spin down on a laptop does it have any effect at all.
[12:41] <luist> rifter, well the only non-text files here i think are images... i can just move them and run it
[12:41] <godatworld> Josh90: (lol, i'm crazy) quantum mechanical spin?
[12:41] <AlienDK> YOU ARE CRAZY
[12:41] <luist> rifter, but... is there a way to print only the occurrences? it seems to be printing everything of the file content
[12:41] <AlienDK> I AM CRAZY
[12:42] <FloodBot3> AlienDK: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:42] <AlienDK> WE ARE CRAZY
[12:42] <nXhQXv2W> ectropy: Looks like your looking for wpa_supplicant
[12:42] <Josh90> godatworld: Yeh
[12:42] <AlienDK> Stupid floodbot
[12:42] <Gnosiz> Can you get Quicktime player for Linux?
[12:43] <godatworld> Gnosiz: for browsers or stand-alone?
[12:43] <rifter> find [your folder] -type f |  while read file; do ftyp=`file $file | awlk '{ print $2}'`; if [ "$ftyp" == "ASCII" ] then sed 's/BBB/AAA/g' $file; fi; done
[12:43] <AlienDK> Quicktime sucks
[12:43] <rifter> let me check tat real quick
[12:43] <Gnosiz> For browsers godatworld.
[12:43] <iceroot> AlienDK: you have a support-question?
[12:44] <Gnosiz> I'm trying to watch a video that needs Quicktime, I downloaded two suggested plugins and the video works. But the quality is substantially lower than it should be.
[12:44] <AlienDK> Quicktime sucks
[12:44] <AlienDK> Apple generally sucks
[12:44] <AlienDK> Don't use Apple products
[12:45] <Myrtti> AlienDK: did you have any productive input to this discussion?
[12:45] <AlienDK> Nope
[12:45] <Myrtti> AlienDK: then why bother?
[12:45] <AlienDK> :)
[12:45] <AlienDK> Because I'm bored
[12:45] <Myrtti> AlienDK: this isn't a place for that
[12:45] <Gnosiz> It was a rhetorical question AlienDK.
[12:45] <hatasu> rifter: what should I write now to 40_custom? :)
[12:46] <AlienDK> You guys are boring
[12:47] <hatasu> file is now included in this: exec tail -n +3 $0
[12:47] <hatasu> rifter:
[12:47] <luist> rifter, maybe i could use grep -I to filter the binaries?
[12:49] <indus> hatasu, title           Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[12:49] <indus> rootnoverify    (hd2,0)
[12:49] <indus> savedefault
[12:49] <indus> makeactive
[12:49] <indus> map             (hd0) (hd2)
[12:49] <FloodBot3> indus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:49] <indus> map             (hd2) (hd0)
[12:49] <indus> hatasu, ignore the map lines
[12:49] <rifter> luist this works:  find seddirectory -type f |  while read file; do ftyp=`file $file | awk '{ print $2}'`; if [ "$ftyp" == "ASCII" ]; then sed 's/BBB/AAA/g' $file; fi; done
[12:49] <iceroot> is there a way to use "at" without a file but with a direct command?
[12:49] <indus> hatasu, and use proper partition names for yours
[12:50] <indus> hatasu, get it?
[12:50] <rifter> luist, the file command checks what kind of fiel a file is
[12:50] <rifter> luist, ASCII text will show ASCII text when you do the file command
[12:50] <hatasu> ok
[12:50] <hatasu> i try it
[12:50] <gsnedders> Hey, the kernel doesn't appear to to be killing processes when they eat up loads of memory and everything becomes impossibly slow as everything goes to swap
[12:50] <Lanlost> E: Unable to find a source package for pulseaudio
[12:50] <Lanlost> ?
[12:51] <indus> so hdx,y whre x is device number and y is partition starting from number 1
[12:51] <luist> rifter, got it... thanks
[12:51] <jrib> iceroot: « at » reads from stdin by default
[12:51] <godatworld> going down", but there aren't any error messages above it (in the init level). Again, I can't access /var/log, as can't access console in a normal way. Tried acpi=off with and without noapic, no change.
[12:51] <godatworld> damn
[12:51] <iceroot> jrib: hm, then i was doing something wrong
[12:51] <jrib> iceroot: hmm?
[12:52] <godatworld> Could somebody plz suggest any solution: I'm booting from livecd (liveusb actually). It loads X, as I can move cursor, but gnome-panel never shows up (just the black screen and the cross which responds to mouse). Ctrl-Alt-F1 & Ctrl-Alt-Backspace don't work, the keyboard is irresponsive (only Caps Lock works), so I can't access console. If I press power button, it actually shows the console...
[12:52] <godatworld> ...with the standard "The system is going down", but there aren't any error messages above it (in the init level). Again, I can't access /var/log, as can't access console in a normal way. Tried acpi=off with and without noapic, no change.
[12:52] <snake_> hi
[12:52] <rifter> indus wouldn't he use hd0,0 ?
[12:52] <bazhang> godatworld, created with usb-creator or unetbootin
[12:52] <godatworld> either
[12:52] <indus> rifter, if its first device and no zero nope, now it starts from 1
[12:52] <bazhang> godatworld, which was yours
[12:52] <snake_> hi have problem with monitors, two monitors one with pivot
[12:52] <godatworld> tried both, same result
[12:52] <indus> rifter, partition naming has changed with grub2
[12:53] <hatasu> ok
[12:53] <bazhang> godatworld, sounds like a bad 'burn' then; took me a couple of tries with unetbootin to get it right
[12:53] <iceroot> jrib: at 'echo "foo"' 13:55
[12:53] <bazhang> godatworld, may also want to md5 the iso
[12:53] <godatworld> bachang: nope, i'm afraid it's not a bad "burn"
[12:54] <hatasu> before the "exec tail -n +3 $0"?
[12:54] <godatworld> it would not boot at all
[12:54] <jrib> iceroot: that's not stdin :P  You can do something like this if you wish: echo foo | command_that_reads_stdin
[12:54] <hatasu> or after
[12:54] <godatworld> md5 is verified
[12:54] <iceroot> jrib: ah "at 13:55"  then its asking for stdin
[12:54] <snake_> can someone help me with configurations monitors ??
[12:54] <indus> hatasu, nio after
[12:54] <jrib> iceroot: yeah
[12:54] <moos3> I need a good sip phone for ubuntu any recommendations?
[12:55] <hatasu> no after? ok
[12:55] <indus> hatasu, its clearly written there, after the tail thing
[12:55] <indus> hatasu, i mean yes, write after the tail
[12:55] <iceroot> jrib: and in my example i forgot <  so i was thinkg at < "echo foo" 13:55 is stdin
[12:55] <BigMack83> im getting issues with vlc being able to play some avi videos. when attempting to play then it gives me the error: No suitable decoder module: VLC does not support the audio or video format "   ". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this.
[12:55] <indus> hatasu, DOnt touch anythng else, but do you know your windows partition?
[12:55] <BigMack83> but the sounds still plays in the backgroud for the video
[12:55] <luist> rifter, it actually prints a log of stuff but its not replace everything :P
[12:55] <BigMack83> video also plays fine in movie player
[12:55] <indus> hatasu, sudo fdisk -l will tell you
[12:56] <BigMack83> any idea what the issue could be?
[12:56] <iceroot> jrib: and how to "stop" stdin? so i can send EOF
[12:56] <abhi_nav> I have installed all fonts and keyboard layouts for Devanagari, I can type in all application in Devangari, except Skype. I cannt press ctrl + space in skype to switch keyboard layout. How to type in Devanagari in skype?
[12:56] <godatworld> sorry guys.. gentoo distro is so much more comprehensive if problems occur...
[12:56] <jrib> iceroot: ctrl-d
[12:56] <iceroot> jrib: thank you
[12:56] <SiegHard> any one knows how to fix problem with intel 3d game lag?
[12:56] <hatasu> indus /ev/sda1
[12:56] <godatworld> i can access the console in any case
[12:56] <hatasu> dev*
[12:56] <iceroot> godatworld: #gentoo
[12:56] <luist> rifter, actually its not replacing anything
[12:57] <indus> hatasu, ok so then hd0,0
[12:57] <indus> for the second line
[12:57] <hatasu> ok
[12:57] <Evet> what's the name of applicatiion that we choose wi-fi networks?
[12:57] <iceroot> jrib: nice, now at is working with commands instead of a file :)
[12:57] <iceroot> Evet: nm-applet
[12:57] <jrib> iceroot: cool
[12:57] <SiegHard> any one knows how to fix problem with intel 3d game lag?
[12:57] <bazhang> Evet, nm-applet ?
[12:58] <godatworld> iceroot: i wanted to convert to ubuntu, but i'm stuck at the very moment of loading from livecd
[12:58] <snake_> can someone help me with configurations monitors ? one display normal the second with pivot should display with rotations
[12:58] <iceroot> godatworld: giving details is a good start
[12:58] <godatworld> '(
[12:58] <erUSUL> Evet: nm-applet
[12:58] <indus> hatasu, and lastly type sudo update-grub after you finish adding all entries
[12:58] <SiegHard> any one knows how to fix problem with intel 3d game lag?
[12:58] <iceroot> SiegHard: jaunty?
[12:58] <indus> SiegHard, what kind of lag
[12:58] <indus> !intel
[12:58] <rifter> luist it should be printing the lines it is changing and also replacing
[12:58] <Evet> iceroot, bazhang, erUSUL: is nm-applet for only gnome?
[12:59] <abhi_nav> I have installed all fonts and keyboard layouts for Devanagari, I can type in all application in Devangari, except Skype. I cannt press ctrl + space in skype to switch keyboard layout. How to type in Devanagari in skype?
[12:59] <rifter> luist maybe it is a problem with your regular expression
[12:59] <erUSUL> Evet: you can use it in kde afaik. but there is kdenetworkmanager or something like 5that
[12:59] <bazhang> Evet, I would assume that kde4 has a widget for that purpose
[12:59] <rifter> luist how about you tell me what AAA and BBB are
[12:59] <hatasu> i cant save it :D
[12:59] <SiegHard> iceroot, with all 3d games from example 3d chess in karmic
[12:59] <hatasu> i need to login with root?
[12:59] <rifter> luits you can put it in a /msg if it is sensitive
[12:59] <luist> rifter, 0.3.3 and 0.3.4 for example
[12:59] <dupondje> hello, I would like to know if there is a tool that checks what files for example in /etc are not from any package.. Cause it seems there are alot of old files on my system.
[12:59] <iceroot> !pm | godatworld
[12:59] <indus> hatasu, of course
[13:00] <zvacet> godatworld: download with torrent from http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/
[13:00] <iceroot> godatworld: is it 9.10?
[13:00] <hatasu> ehh..
[13:00] <luist> rifter, its printing some full files
[13:00] <hatasu> ok
[13:00] <indus> hatasu, sudo gedit /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[13:00] <Evet> erUSUL, bazhang: what is the equivalent for xfce?
[13:00] <bazhang> indus, gksudo gedit
[13:00] <rifter> luist hmm
[13:00] <iceroot> !gksudo | indus hatasu
[13:00] <SiegHard> indus, with all 3d games example 3d chess in karmic lags
[13:00] <hubertstar> bjsm: 在吗？
[13:00] <indus> oh
[13:00] <indus> damn it
[13:00] <bazhang> hubertstar, /join #ubuntu-cn
[13:01] <kian> How I can resize a photo with gimp?
[13:01] <indus> hatasu, sorry about that , use gksu gedit
[13:01] <erUSUL> kian: image>resize
[13:01] <indus> hatasu, gksu gedit /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[13:01] <Evet> kian: scale image
[13:01] <bazhang> Evet, I am not sure there, sorry xfce4 would likely be known in #xubuntu though
[13:01] <indus> thanks folks erUSUL and bazhang
[13:01] <hatasu> it ok
[13:01] <hatasu> it
[13:01] <hatasu> it's...
[13:02] <erUSUL> Evet: i dunno maybe just use nm-applet there too
[13:02] <SiegHard> Any one knows how to fix problem with intel graphic card, cuz all 3d games lags as hell?
[13:02] <Myrtti> Evet: nm-applet
[13:02] <indus> SiegHard, get a separate graphics card dear,intel is too slow for 3d games
[13:03] <e-i-k-e> hi
[13:03] <hatasu> Found Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition - magyar on /dev/sda1
[13:03] <indus> abhi_nav, i can type hindi in skype fine
[13:03] <indus> hatasu, fantastic
[13:03] <hatasu> BIG thanks
[13:03] <indus> hatasu, so what exactly was the problem you had?
[13:03] <indus> hatasu, try reboot
[13:03] <SiegHard> indus, in windows i can run games with i can't run normaly in linux for example in windows Quake 4 goes with 40FPS in linux 2FPS
[13:03] <hatasu> ok
[13:03] <abhi_nav> indus how?
[13:03] <indus> hatasu, this is first time i helpe with grub 2, so i want to see if it worked
[13:04] <e-i-k-e> is someone available for building me an actual sane-backends .deb binary? installing manually causes errors (no matter if i am using make install or checkinstall)
[13:04] <indus> abhi_nav, well, select keyboard indicator on panel and change language
[13:04] <hatasu> ok, see you later :) i reboot
[13:04] <godatworld> It seems ubuntu is too hard for a Stanford PhD student, will get back to gentoo... lol...
[13:04] <abhi_nav> indus: that only changes the language but cannt TYPE in devanagari there
[13:04] <abhi_nav> ok indus can i join you there on skype
[13:04] <abhi_nav> ??
[13:05] <abhi_nav> indus which version of skype you are using?
[13:05] <iceroot> SiegHard: for quake4 are you using the linux version or wine?
[13:05] <SiegHard> iceroot, linux
[13:05] <SiegHard> natie
[13:05] <SiegHard> I have intel 4500mhd card
[13:06] <indus> abhi_nav, ok come
[13:06] <SiegHard> and it works in windows properly but in ubuntu
[13:06] <SiegHard> all 3d apps lags
[13:06] <abhi_nav> indus: whats you name ther on skype?
[13:06] <dupondje> hello, I would like to know if there is a tool that checks what files for example in /etc are not from any package.. Cause it seems there are alot of old files on my system.
[13:06] <indus> abhi_nav, i said in pm
[13:08] <SiegHard> so what u could suggest iceroot
[13:08] <wirechief_> dupondje maybe read man ls
[13:09] <iceroot> SiegHard: have a look if there is a non-free driver with 3dsupport
[13:09] <iceroot> SiegHard: i would use the ubuntu-forums or google with your cardname and karmic
[13:09] <SiegHard> no luck :/
[13:10] <rifter> luist here it is find seddirectory -type f |  while read file; do ftyp=`file $file | awk '{ print $2}'`; if [ "$ftyp" == "ASCII" ]; then cp $file /tmp/tempfile; sed 's/0.3.3/0.3.4/g' /tmp/tempfile | tee $file; fi; done
[13:10] <luist> rifter, Ok ill give it a try
[13:10] <luist> rifter, :)
[13:11] <dupondje> lol man ls .. right with ls you will find files that doesn't belong to any package :
[13:11] <hatasu> hi all :)
[13:11] <hatasu> indus i'm from windows
[13:12] <asesueko> hi all
[13:12] <hatasu> it's work
[13:12] <Linuxhippy> wow launchpad is ugly. why can't you guys use bugzilla?
[13:12] <indus> hatasu, ok nice
[13:12] <Linuxhippy> I am searching now for 10min howto file a bug
[13:12] <hatasu> rifter thanks you too
[13:12] <rifter> indus, thank you for your help
[13:12] <rifter> hatasu, yeah it was the blind leading the blind there for a minute.. sorry about that
[13:12] <indus> yes thank you for your patience
[13:13] <hatasu> no problem
[13:13] <indus> Linuxhippy, yes its true, a little change, type ubuntu-bug <package>
[13:13] <indus> brb
[13:13] <dlynes> Linuxhippy, Have you tried http://bugs.ubuntu.com/?
[13:14] <Linuxhippy> indus: thanks, however i don't have networking on the machine I tested lucid-a2
[13:14] <Chuck_Bartowski> hey, how to turn on interactive boot process on ubuntu live cd?
[13:14] <Linuxhippy> dlynes: thanks, I'll have a look
[13:15] <dlynes> Linuxhippy, you'll need to register before you can file
[13:15] <rifter> dupondje, I don't know a command that does that you will probably have to write a script that checks the packages you have on your system, determines what files they use, greps out the ones that are in the directory you are concerned about, and then gives you a list which you can use ls -I to ignore
[13:15] <mebilgin> hi
[13:15] <mebilgin> all
[13:15] <mebilgin> how are you
[13:15] <hatasu> im fine
[13:15] <mebilgin> from
[13:15] <Linuxhippy> dlynes: I am registered, but i can't find and "file new bug" link. i must be blind :/
[13:15] <mebilgin> ı am from turkey
[13:15] <hatasu> hungary
[13:16] <abhi_nav> I have installed all fonts and keyboard layouts for Devanagari, I can type in all application in Devangari, except Skype. I cannt press ctrl + space in skype to switch keyboard layout. How to type in Devanagari in skype?
[13:16] <mebilgin> how old are you
[13:16] <dupondje> rifter: but there isn't a tool that already does is ? :)
[13:16] <indus> abhi_nav, go to system>admin>language support and install
[13:16] <indus> no chit chat here
[13:16] <dlynes> Linuxhippy, Top right corner under 'Log in / Register' is a link called 'Report a bug'
[13:16] <indus> !offtopic
[13:16] <abhi_nav> indus i have installed hindi and marathi fonts
[13:16] <abhi_nav> already
[13:16] <indus> abhi_nav, ok
[13:16] <zvacet> Linuxhippy: see https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+faq/562
[13:16] <mebilgin> what is your sex
[13:16] <mebilgin> asl
[13:17] <bazhang> mebilgin, wrong channel
[13:17] <dlynes> mebilgin, this isn't a sex channel
[13:17] <mebilgin> salak
[13:17] <abhi_nav> !support
[13:17] <mebilgin> fuck offf
[13:17] <dlynes> mebilgin, you want /server irc.efnet.net
[13:17] <Linuxhippy> zvacet: don't run ubuntu, so no-go with integrated reporting tools
[13:18] <Linuxhippy> anyway thanks for all your help
[13:18] <abhi_nav> indus: which type you have selected while typing? inscript, phonetic etc which one?
[13:18] <Linuxhippy> the reporting process seems to be really that broken ;)
[13:18] <indus> Linuxhippy, its not,
[13:18] <indus> Linuxhippy, its being done to streamline the bug reporting process so proper bug reports are files
[13:18] <indus> filed
[13:19] <zvacet> Linuxhippy:  this is Ubuntu support chanell so I presumed you are ubuntu user
[13:19] <indus> Linuxhippy, so from a terminal type ubuntu-bug -p <example is pidgin package> will collect all relevant data for bug
[13:19] <Linuxhippy> so why doesn't "report a bug" lead to a new-bug-form, but to a wiki page explaining howto file a bug
[13:19] <indus> Linuxhippy, read above,
[13:19] <indus> Linuxhippy, many bugs are reported without any relevant data and wastes space
[13:19] <Linuxhippy> that does not only guide away noobs
[13:19] <abhi_nav> indus: which type you have selected while typing? inscript, phonetic etc which one?
[13:20] <dlynes> Linuxhippy, did you do the 'report a bug' link that I mentioned?
[13:20] <Myrtti> Linuxhippy: the noobs are told to use ubuntu-bug -tool
[13:20] <indus> abhi_nav, actually i cant see that inscipt thing, iam searching
[13:20] <Linuxhippy> indus: I don't run ubuntu, so no go with ubuntu-bug ^^
[13:20] <indus> dlynes, the report a bug wont work now
[13:20] <rifter> dupondje, if there is I have no clue what it would be,unfortunately
[13:20] <dlynes> Linuxhippy, I followed (this is my first time using it), and it directed me to register, after which it told me about this page:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing%20bugs%20at%20Launchpad.net
[13:20] <Linuxhippy> jep I'll try more hard to get that stuff files ;)
[13:20] <mebilgin> heee
[13:20] <dlynes> indus, eh?  why's that?
[13:20] <mebilgin> ıı am back
[13:20] <mebilgin> asl
[13:20] <indus> dlynes, please read post above
[13:20]  * indus sighs
[13:20] <rifter> dupondje, however you might check perl python and shell script forums to see if someone wrote one
[13:21] <dlynes> mebilgin, congratulations loser
[13:21] <Myrtti> dlynes: the trolls don't need encouragment
[13:21] <rifter> dupondje, any debian variant script will work for what you want
[13:21] <Linuxhippy> guess I am just too used to bugzilla
[13:21] <abhi_nav> indus: i have types to select (actualy keyboard layout) for both marathi and hindi - inscript, phonetic, intrans, for hindi - remington, inscript, phonetic etc
[13:21] <nonameNN> docky
[13:22] <dlynes> Myrtti, I was being facetious
[13:22] <clopxy> how come when I mount a windows server share with mount and the file_mode=644 option, I still get files in the mount showing up as 777?
[13:22] <dlynes> indus, his problem is that on the machine that's got the bugs, it doesn't have internet connectivity
[13:24] <dlynes> indus, personally, I would have the same issue...all of my ubuntu installs are done on non-internet connected networks
[13:25] <dlynes> clopxy, because it's a windows share...".exe", ".com" and ".dll" files still show up with executable privilege, regardless
[13:25] <dlynes> clopxy, it's not specific to ubuntu
[13:25] <maria> hola hay alguien español
[13:25] <Myrtti> !es | maria
[13:25] <maria> hay alguien de pablo picasso
[13:26] <clopxy> dlynes, isn't it a little dangerous to have /all/ files come up 777? what if a user double click on it?
[13:26] <maria> el colegio de la linea
[13:26] <dlynes> clopxy, you didn't say all files were showing up 777...you were non-specific
[13:27] <dlynes> clopxy, you also haven't specified what type of filesystem you're mounting
[13:27] <clopxy> dlynes, sorry, yes. All directoriesand files from the client seem to have 777
[13:27] <clopxy> cifs
[13:27] <clopxy> NTFS on the server
[13:27] <dlynes> clopxy, under Windows, it could be NTFS, HPFS, or FAT
[13:27] <dlynes> clopxy, so it's a cifs file system, then
[13:28] <dlynes> clopxy, you definitely shouldn't be getting executable permissions, then
[13:28] <dkantic> public /join #france24
[13:28] <dlynes> clopxy, have you tried mounting without specifying mounting permissions?
[13:29] <clopxy> dlynes, yes. same thing...
[13:29] <dlynes> clopxy, How are you mounting it?
[13:29] <zagabar> I am getting an annoying error. The error is this: http://pallkars.net/~uploader/uploads/shot.PNG And I get it when adding the table rule "iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE". This don't mess up ampache, websites, ftp, ssh nor any other service that I have noticed except squirrelmail and thunderbird. I can still access the mail with mutt via ssh though. Some guy told me that this is probably an IMAP problem and I have dovecot 1.1.11. I am running
[13:30] <domowy> co tam ??
[13:31] <nXhQXv2W> how do I set arch for make? or is it the assembler?
[13:31] <clopxy> dlynes, //server/share /mnt/share cifs credentials=/root/creds,uid=1234,gid=1234
[13:31] <bjhaid_> I am trying to install on my ubuntu 9.10 machine, it comes up with the error termcap not available
[13:31] <dlynes> clopxy, try the command line:  mount //server/share /mnt/share -t cifs -o "uid,1234,gid=1234"
[13:32] <bjhaid_> can anyone help on this
[13:32] <phil> hiho
[13:32] <dlynes> clopxy, and using the contents of your /root/creds file as additional options
[13:32] <dlynes> clopxy, or actually, skip the creds file, and see if you still have the problem
[13:33] <dlynes> zagabar, is that version of dovecot even stable?
[13:33] <abhi_nav> indus: i am back here. my ubuntu automatically hangs due (i think) temp prob. now restarted
[13:33] <phil> i've got an annoying problem with vim under ubuntu jaunty, after i invoke ":make" vim tries to open up the file where the error is in the root directory where i started vim, not in the directory where the file is
[13:34] <BigMack83> it seems that no matter where i try to update my local maching (9.10) i cannot update. i get the error: anyevent-perl dvdrip-doc libnet-ssleay-perl libevent-perl libevent-rpc-perl libsox-fmt-base php-net-smtp subtitleripper libsox-fmt-alsa libavfilter0 transcode-doc gtk2-ex-formfactory-perl php-net-socket libdvbpsi5 libevent-execflow-perl transcode-utils libvlc2 libsdl-image1.2 vlc-nox libreadline5 lsdvd transcode fping sox xine-ui vlc-data l
[13:34] <BigMack83> ibtar libintl-perl libsox1a libnet-libidn-perl libvlccore2 libio-socket-ssl-perl vlc-plugin-pulse libxine1-ffmpeg
[13:34] <dlynes> zagabar, seems to me, I had to upgrade to 1.2rc5 to get rid of some annoying problems with dovecot
[13:34] <BigMack83> oops im sorry.
[13:35] <dlynes> zagabar, the version that shipped with debian didn't work very well, either
[13:35] <BigMack83> the error i get when tryign to update is this: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead
[13:35] <abhi_nav> indus you there?
[13:35] <BigMack83> i get the same error if i use update -f to fix broken packages
[13:35] <teage> nano is a text editor for command line right?
[13:35] <phil> so i end up in a new xy.cpp file after an erroneus compilation instead of src/classes/xy.cpp
[13:35] <BigMack83> yes
[13:35] <dlynes> teage, yes
[13:35] <Linuxhippy> ok, did it. thanks for your help :)
[13:35] <umang> Hi! How do you accept a "subscription request" on Empathy? I was notified with the notify-osd that there was a subscription request, but that's it. I can find anything that allows me to accept!?
[13:35] <Linuxhippy> bye
[13:35] <abhi_nav> !nano
[13:36] <zagabar> dlynes: Okay. I guess I could try updating, but is this really that kind of a problem that is fixed in an update? Seems like networking problems IMO.
[13:36] <Guest76742> hi
[13:36] <dlynes> zagabar, i actually never looked at your png file
[13:36] <Guest76742> hi
[13:36] <abhi_nav> I have installed all fonts and keyboard layouts for Devanagari, I can type in all application in Devangari, except Skype. I cannt press ctrl + space in skype to switch keyboard layout. How to type in Devanagari in skype?
[13:36] <abhi_nav> !hi | Guest76742
[13:37] <teage> dlynes: when i give the path to the txt file to read, it does not work. this is my path to the txt, "nano /home/teage/.SERVERS.txt" Am i giving nano the correct info?
[13:37] <Guest76742> abhi_nav:i hav aproblem in connecting internet to ubuntu9.10
[13:37] <nXhQXv2W> hi
[13:37] <Guest76742> using reliance
[13:37] <indus> abhi_nav, i used ti have it ,now i dont see it
[13:37] <dlynes> teage, either the file doesn't exist, or nano is broken so that it doesn't support 'hidden' files
[13:37] <abhi_nav> indus: what you dont have now?
[13:37] <teage> ic
[13:38] <indus> abhi_nav, that phonetic thingy
[13:38] <abhi_nav> indus: i am confused. can i explain in details?
[13:38] <indus> abhi_nav, never mind, i dont have all the packs language
[13:38] <indus> i go home and checlk
[13:38] <turtle^s0up> hi, does anyone know what directories Adobe Flash gets installed in?
[13:38] <indus> be online in 30 min
[13:38] <indus> see youu
[13:38] <abhi_nav>  indus: ok
[13:38] <abhi_nav> indus: ok bye
[13:38] <teage> dlynes:what about "less"  I should be able to use less right "less text_file"
[13:38] <zagabar> dlynes: Oh. XD It is an error that says that the user does not exists/password is wrong. So it might be when the IMAP tries to verify the credentials somehow, but I don't really know how that works. :(
[13:38] <umang> Never mind. Found the answer.
[13:38] <BigMack83> obviously i am currently on line, but when i try and update, the system cant connect to the update servers. i also just realized that from the cli i am unable to update even with update -f . as well as i cant seem to ping any site. just tells me unknown host. can anyone help? im not sure where to look to troubleshoot this
[13:39] <abhi_nav> !detail | Guest76742
[13:39] <abhi_nav> !details | Guest76742
[13:39] <Guest76742> abhi_nav: i am using reliance netconnect
[13:39] <teage> but that doesnt work either
[13:39] <abhi_nav> I have installed all fonts and keyboard layouts for Devanagari, I can type in all application in Devangari, except Skype. I cannt press ctrl + space in skype to switch keyboard layout. How to type in Devanagari in skype?
[13:39] <Guest76742> abhi_nav: it is asking for keyring
[13:39] <iDope> how do I set CFLAGS for dpkg-buildpackage?
[13:40] <abhi_nav> allow for keyring enter your password
[13:40] <dlynes> zagabar, I really don't see how your nat rules are going to effect localhost connections
[13:40] <Guest76742> abhi_nav: which password to enter there?
[13:40] <abhi_nav> your password
[13:41] <abhi_nav> you use to login to computer
[13:41] <abhi_nav> admin pasword
[13:41] <iDope> anyone have any experience with building deb files from source?
[13:41] <Guest76742> abhi_nav: but its denying that. even though i entered many times
[13:41] <Kasm279> whats the  package name for the intel graphics drivers?
[13:42] <zagabar> dlynes: That is what really puzzles me too... But it happens. If I remove the rule, it works, if I add it, it breaks. I do absolutely nothing else. The rule is "iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE"
[13:43] <abhi_nav> hi siri1 ask whatever you want to ask here in main question
[13:43] <Kasm279> !intel
[13:44] <abhi_nav> hi siri1 ask whatever you want to ask here in main channel dont pm without the permissino of the user
[13:44] <siri1> abhi_nav:ok...
[13:44] <abhi_nav> Guest76742: have you allowed the keyring?
[13:45] <abhi_nav> !pm | siri1
[13:48] <R4Z3R> erver irc.epiknet.com
[13:48] <yorick> hello, I'm trying to install ffmpeg from medibuntu
[13:48] <gartral> alrighty all, im up and running in an i7.. got a dual nic mobo.. how do i utulize it? i try two connections right now and run into serious packet scheduling problems
[13:49] <yorick> I did sudo aptitude remove ffmpeg
[13:49] <bazhang> yorick, the deb or by enabling the repos
[13:49] <yorick> and then I added medibuntu using the instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[13:49] <yorick> and then I did sudo aptitude install ffmpeg
[13:49] <yorick> but it doesn't seem to be any different
[13:49] <bazhang> yorick, did you update your sources.list first
[13:50] <Crimius> sudo aptitude update and try again yorick
[13:50] <yorick> does sudo wget --output-document=/etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/$(lsb_release -cs).list && sudo apt-get --quiet update && sudo apt-get --yes --quiet --allow-unauthenticated install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get --quiet update do it?
[13:51] <yorick> when I do sudo aptitude update, it lists medibuntu too
[13:52] <yorick> or should I maybe purge it?
[13:52] <eth01> i'm behind a proxy - trying to update with the software manager
[13:52] <eth01> it hangs when it tries to pull down the files from the ubuntu server
[13:53] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[13:53] <gartral> also, i have an issue with flash, if i fullscreen a video, it flicers the webpage that's behind in some frames
[13:54] <eth01> does anybody know?
[13:55] <BluesKaj> too much traffic on th proxy I imagine , it's blocking the download
[13:56] <yorick> I can install libdvdcss fine
[13:56] <abhi_nav> I have installed all fonts and keyboard layouts for Devanagari, I can type in all application in Devangari, except Skype. I cannt press ctrl + space in skype to switch keyboard layout. How to type in Devanagari in skype?
[13:56] <indus> hi
[13:57] <pngll> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 with wubi over an old windows7 partition and now when I select Ubuntu at the boot menu I get to the GRUB command line. Btw, Windows 7 is still in the boot options but obviously doesn't work anymore.
[13:57] <gartral> fixed flash: disabled hardware acceleration
[13:57] <abhi_nav> ok leave that font prob now. Now I have new prob. I type it wait...........
[13:58] <gartral> pngll: youch!
[13:58] <root__> wiki
[13:58] <root__> are you?
[13:58] <gartral> pngll: were you hoping to keep that windows installation?
[13:58] <Diverdude> Sometimes when I open a PDF document on the web, via firefox, it opens in adobe acrobat reader....When I then press save a copy, and browse to a location it says i dont have permission to save to this location....This is really annoying. How do I make it so that i can always save pdf files from firefox ?
[13:59] <abhi_nav> Wireless is not working. After fresh install of ubuntu it was working for 10 days then if suddenly dont work now. I dont know anything about how to make it active.
[13:59] <pngll> gartral, nope, I formatted the partition before using wubi anyways.
[13:59] <MrHeavy> I'm trying to get Puppet Dashboard running
[13:59] <pngll> pngll, I just want to get into ubuntu (which I guess means fixing Windows' equivalent of GRUB but I do not know how to do this)
[13:59] <yorick> hmm...ffmpeg isn't in medibuntu karmic
[13:59] <yorick> is it
[13:59] <gartral> pngll: well thats a problem, as wubi installed ubuntu into a page file (of sorts) insode the windows partition.. you just nuked everything
[13:59] <MrHeavy> It seems to be ignoring my database settings in database.yml
[13:59] <MrHeavy> And just tries to connect as root@localhost
[14:00] <root__> n
[14:00] <MrHeavy> And obviously fails
[14:00] <indus> पग
[14:00] <Kasm279> pngll
[14:00] <pngll> gartral, I'm not too worried, I still have access to my windows vista partition (using it right now)
[14:00] <Kasm279> can you get into windows?
[14:00] <MrHeavy> Damn it
[14:00] <MrHeavy> Wrong channel
[14:00] <MrHeavy> Stupid irssi
[14:00] <abhi_nav> Wireless is not working. When I press wireless button it remains red only.After fresh install of ubuntu it was working for 10 days then if suddenly dont work now. I dont know anything about how to make it active. Ubuntu 9.04 , hp-compaq presario a965 tu intel centrino core 2 duo
[14:00] <root__> no i can't
[14:00] <root__> w
[14:00] <abhi_nav> ईन्डस
[14:00] <gartral> Kasm279: hes ok as of now
[14:00] <Kasm279> pngll: look in the control panel somewhere
[14:00] <indus> नमसते
[14:00] <root__> who are you
[14:00] <root__> ?
[14:01] <Kasm279> i know theres an MPR config in XP :\
[14:01] <abhi_nav> नमस्ते इन्डस. कैसे है आप?
[14:01] <DJones> !ubuntu | root__
[14:01] <pngll> Kasm279, into windows 7, no. To recap I have 1 Vista partition (still working), and another partition which used to host windows 7 and now hosts ubuntu. Windows boot menu offers me a choice between Vista, Windows7 and Ubuntu. Neither Windows7 nor Ubuntu work.
[14:01] <Kasm279> abhi_nav: what wifi card does it have?
[14:01] <erebos> how do i shut down Firefox from terminal?
[14:01] <hydester> does karmic have good support to be a xen host?
[14:01] <abhi_nav> Kasm279: I am newbie in wireless topic. tell me how to know it?
[14:01] <hydester> erebos: pkill -9 firefox
[14:02] <gartral> pngll: ok, in control panel, look for Administration tools, and Disk Manager
[14:02] <indus> whats the diff between ibus and keyboard layout
[14:02] <mkulke> regarding pulseaudio: my gf has a laptop which used be kinda quiet when playing sound in ubuntu 7.x. when ubuntu started including pulse-audio, the problem was, well, gone: the sound was very loud, altho the slider was just on 1/4. curiously, how far this would go, i moved the slider up, when at about 3/4 *smoke* came out of the machine. sound still works, tho :)
[14:02] <pngll> gartral, got it
[14:02] <pngll> gartral, what do i do now
[14:02] <collabra> !wireless
[14:02] <indus> नमसते
[14:02] <mkulke> pulse-audio responsible for burning down your house, now this is another quality
[14:02] <gartral> pngll: remove just the win 7, as your ubuntu install will be fixe by installing ubuntu the normal way (or wubi again, if you prefer)
[14:03] <abhi_nav> no i dont want any documentation dont type !wireless help me here live if you can please
[14:03] <indus> man why is skype saying wrong password
[14:04] <gartral> pngll: you should have an MBR tool somewhere in the lists of tools
[14:04] <indus> abhi_nav, do i appear online in skype?
[14:05] <howlymowly> hi... anyone hee familiar with the ipython shell?
[14:05] <howlymowly> *here
[14:05] <abhi_nav> indus: no
[14:05] <indus> ok
[14:05] <abhi_nav> hmm
[14:05] <abhi_nav> Wireless is not working. When I press wireless button it remains red only.After fresh install of ubuntu it was working for 10 days then if suddenly dont work now. I dont know anything about how to make it active. Ubuntu 9.04 , hp-compaq presario a965 tu intel centrino core 2 duo
[14:05] <howlymowly> got a quesiton about ipython:   hi...  short question about ipython:   how do I run a python-file as backround job within ipython? I am always trying to do %bg run("file.py")  but that does not work...  I am only able to call specific functions with %bg... is there any way to do this?
[14:06] <Kasm279> !repeat | abhi_nav
[14:06] <abhi_nav> Wireless is not working. When I press wireless button it remains red only. Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02) After fresh install of ubuntu it was working for 10 days then if suddenly dont work now. I dont know anything about how to make it active. Ubuntu 9.04 , hp-compaq presario a965 tu intel centrino core 2 duo
[14:06] <Kasm279> >.>
[14:06]  * Kasm279 slaps abhi_nav
[14:06] <gartral> abhi_nav: have you looked in System>Administration>hardware drivers?
[14:06] <abhi_nav> Yes I know I am repeating when this page scrolls up and new logged in used cannt see my question
[14:07] <gartral> abhi_nav: press your page up key.. thats what we do
[14:07] <pngll> gartral, there's no windows7 partition that i can delete. Here's a screenshot: http://imgur.com/iNW6L.png
[14:07] <abhi_nav> gartral: drivers are there. because when i installed ubuntu it wireless was working fine for (atleast) 10 days
[14:08] <gartral> abhi_nav: do you want help or no? tell me if there are drivers listed in that tool, please
[14:08] <abhi_nav> gartral: ok
[14:09] <abhi_nav> gartral: it says no propriatary driver in use
[14:09] <gartral> pngll: ewww. .i cant understand your language man. your looking for Master Boot Record
[14:09] <gartral> abhi_nav: are any drivers availible for installation
[14:09] <abhi_nav> gartral: no. blank window only
[14:10] <abhi_nav> and one help and one close button
[14:10] <gartral> abhi_nav: ok, are in ubuntu on a wire?
[14:10] <abhi_nav> wire means?
[14:10] <gartral> network cable
[14:11] <abhi_nav> gartral yes I have broadband ethernet cable
[14:11] <pngll> gartral, ouch. I don't see anything that looks like MBR. I'll try rebooting and look again for any specific error message.
[14:11] <pngll> gartral, be back in a bit
[14:11] <abhi_nav> when i lspci it shows the name : Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[14:12] <abhi_nav> gartral: when i lspci it shows the name : Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[14:12] <ubuntu> hi
[14:12]  * Crimius facepalms
[14:12] <gartral> ok, open a console, type sudo dhclient wlan0
[14:13] <gartral> abhi_nav: ok, open a console, type sudo dhclient wlan0
[14:13] <abhi_nav> gartral: can you wait for 2 sec. because i have to leave from here and log in to admin account?
[14:13] <abhi_nav> hmm?
[14:13] <abhi_nav> is it ok?
[14:13] <gartral> abhi, no need sudo <admin account name here> dhclient wlan0
[14:14] <gartral> people are dang impatient these days
[14:14] <gartral> abhi_nav: you could have waited
[14:15] <abhi_nav> gartral i am here now can you please repeat that command?
[14:19] <gartral> pngll repeat please
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[14:21] <abhi_nav_> gartral: sorry i was restarting comp. may we continue now?
[14:22] <abhi_nav_> gartral you there?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Abhi_nav_: wassup?
[14:23] <pngll> join #unbuntu-fr
[14:23] <abhi_nav_> ActionParsnip: wireless not working. no driver listed in hardware driver applet. ubuntu 9.04. wireless was working after fresh installtion of ubuntu for 10 days
 abhi_nav: ok, open a console, type sudo dhclient wlan0
 gartral: can you wait for 2 sec. because i have to leave from here and log in to admin account?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Rifter: nice
 abhi, no need sudo <admin account name here> dhclient wlan0
[14:24] <nd__> Aloha
[14:24] <abhi_nav_> ??
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> Abhi_nav_: ok does: sudo iwlist scan ,show access points currently?
[14:24] <nd__> How do I get an subversion 1.6 on ubuntu 8.04?
[14:24] <gartral> abhi_nav_: yes, what happened? you pinged out?
 you could have waited and learned something new
 I thing you are waitin for me to log me in as admin. so i made hurry
 think
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Nd__: ppa or compile
[14:25] <pngll> gartral, hmm things didn't improve. I removed windows 7 from the boot options, and for some reason I now have to manually tell the BIOS which hard drive to boot from. Also I didn't see anything special on the GRUB CLI, but when I enter the command "boot" it tells me "no kernel loaded".
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Pngll: add the boot in the others config file for grub
[14:26] <rifter> pngll, do you mean you are pressing like f12 to get boot options from the bios and specifying the drive?
[14:26] <nd__> ActionParsnip: ppa? I had hoped for some way to apt-get it
[14:26] <pngll> rifter, yes (esc. actually)
[14:26] <abhi_nav_> ActionParsnip: gartral: after sudo dhclient wlan0 it is showing lines one byone and now wireless button is blue
[14:26] <rifter> pngll, because from the bios point of view you should have the boot drive set in there
[14:26] <pngll> ActionParsnip, I don't understand what you mean.
[14:26] <rifter> pngll, under setup
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> Nd__: yes, you add the ppa then you can apt-get the package from the ppa automagically
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> Nd__: a ppa is basically an unofficial repo
[14:26] <gartral> pngll: ok, no, your situation has improved marginally, now you need to reinstall ubuntu again, this time from the graphical installer with the disk in the drive at boot
[14:27] <pngll> rifter, yeah, I'll try to get into the boot options and make it permanent. I still find it weird that removing Windows7 from the boot options (in msconfig) resulted in my having to do this.
[14:27] <abhi_nav_> ActionParsnip: gartral: http://paste.ubuntu.com/384397/
[14:27] <rifter> pngll, it is a puzzle to be sure
[14:27] <rifter> pngll, it may just be an unhappy coincidence
[14:27] <ujjain> Is it true that only the Ubuntu alternate installer can create LVM partitions?? Seems such a vital option. And where can I find this alternate CD?
[14:27] <rifter> pngll, in computing, sometimes when it rains it pours
[14:27] <pngll> rifter, possibly :)
[14:28] <pngll> gartral, ok, I'll burn a live cd and move on from here.
[14:28] <gartral> pngll,rifter no, it's a side effect of removing the primary boot loader (7's old one), sorry i forgot to warn you
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Abhi_nav_: ok run: sudo iwlist scan
[14:28] <abhi_nav_> ActionParsnip: gartral: each time i need to go by this command line?
[14:28] <gartral> abhi_nav_:
[14:28] <gartral> abhi_nav_: you there?
[14:28] <abhi_nav_> gartral: yes
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> Abhi_nav_: for now yes, until you get sorted
[14:29] <ujjain> PC  (Intel x86) alternate install CD << How many bits is this?
[14:29] <gartral> you never told me what happened.. i figured the conflict of internet paths bumped you off freenode
[14:29] <abhi_nav_> ActionParsnip: & gartral: result of iwlist scan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/384399/
[14:29] <BeeStone> hi
[14:29] <rifter> ujjain, I amnot sure but I would imagine that the server version of ubuntu can do this http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Ujjain: 700mb
[14:30] <rifter> ujjain, I mean I am sure server version supports lvm
[14:30] <gartral> abhi_nav_: do me a favor, unplug your network wire, and run sudo dhclient wlan0
[14:30] <rifter> ujjain, wnat I am not sure of is whether you have to use that version to get it
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Abhi_nav_: great the wifi is detected and can scan
[14:31] <ujjain> ujjain: I don't run a server, i downloaded desktop-64 bits and it did not support LVM.
[14:31] <ujjain> ActionParsnip: 32 bit or 64 bit? PC  (Intel x86) alternate install CD
[14:31] <ujjain> I have heard people using an x term for 64-bits, not even x64.
[14:31] <gartral> ujjain: why do you need the alternate install cd?
[14:31] <BeeStone> I'm going to install windows xp to run on this computer with my ubuntu 9.10. I've heard that if I install XP after installing ubuntu, I need to reinstall grub
[14:31] <ujjain> gartral: Because I need LVM.
[14:31] <abhi_nav_> ??
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> Ujjain: the difference between the 2 is tiny (download size-wise)
[14:31] <abhi_nav_> gartral ??
[14:32] <BeeStone> so which package I exactly have to reinstall, that one called grub-pc?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> Beestone: correct
[14:32] <abhi_nav_> gartral you read what ActionParsnip's msg? what should I do? I am new on wifi topic
[14:32] <rifter> gartral, he wants to be able to use lvm
[14:32] <gartral> abhi_nav_: do me a favor, unplug your network cable, and run sudo dhclient wlan0 for me again, i think your issue was that you started two networking paths.. and ubuntu doesnt handle that nicely
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> Beestone: install xp first but a lot the partition for xp to a portion of the drive rather than the whole drive, this will avoid the need to mess with resizing
[14:33] <PFA> if i have a video file and a subtitle text file, is there any way to offset the display of subtitles in totem, VLC or any other player such that all of the titles are displayed a little earlier or later?
[14:33] <abhi_nav_> gartral: dhclient wlan0 result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/384397/
[14:33] <abhi_nav_> gartral: ok wait
[14:33] <PFA> the only other thing i can think of to do is to directly edit the video file and chop a few seconds off the beginning, but i'd rather not have to try to mess with that
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> Beestone: ubuntu can then be installed in the remaining unpartitioned space and the dualboot will be handles
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> Handled*
[14:34] <BeeStone> but I have already this ubuntu and I'd like to just install XP on a second HD which I added on this computer just for XP
[14:34] <gartral> abhi_nav_: disconnect your hardline before running that command
[14:34] <alfatau> hello, i installed a command line debian 9.10 desktop. now i would want to connect with my external 56k dialup modem, but i'm always getting the error pppd "Remote message: Autentication failed" even if i used the same user/passwd i'm using now to connect here. what can i do? thank you for your attention
[14:34] <BeeStone> so I think I would save time if I just install XP and then reinstall grub with linux livecd
[14:35] <abhi_nav_> gartral: result after unplugging cable: http://paste.ubuntu.com/384401/
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> Beestone: that's fine, xp will add its bootloader to the other drive and grub will remain, you will need to update grub so it sees the alternate OS
[14:35] <psycho_oreos> abhi_nav_, pastebin your lspci -nnk output
[14:35] <minderaser> Does anyone here have experience getting the Broadcom BCM4312 wireless working in 9.10? I've been struggling with this for hours and am getting nowhere
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> Beestone: it won't need reinstalling if xp has its own full drive
[14:35] <rifter> alfatau, doyou hear the modem connecting at least?
[14:35] <justin_> I can't run qwibber. Get this error: http://pastebin.com/u7BqnH6E
[14:35] <psycho_oreos> minderaser, you need broadcom wl package
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | minderaser
[14:36] <BeeStone> OK, thank you, so just installing XP to the other drive and problem solved :)
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> Minderaser: I've seen folks succeed with that using fwcutter etc
[14:36] <abhi_nav_> psycho_oreos result of lspci -nnk: v
[14:36] <abhi_nav_> psycho_oreos result of lspci -nnk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/384403/
[14:36] <psycho_oreos> err that wouldn't be it I'm afraid, BCM4315 cannot be used with bcm43xx/b43 unless one has newer kernel, newer than 9.10
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> Minderaser: does: gksudo jockey-gtk ,not offer a driver
[14:36] <alfatau> rifter: yes, the preceeding message was "Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS1"
[14:37] <alfatau> rifter: if it can be useful...
[14:37] <psycho_oreos> abhi_nav_, yeah the device seems to be functioning, if you can get iwlist wlan0 scan to work you can't connect?
[14:37] <justin_> I can't run qwibber. Get this error: http://pastebin.com/u7BqnH6E
[14:37] <gartral> abhi_nav_: long press the wifi button upwards of 15 secconds
[14:37] <abhi_nav_> gartral: wifi button is already on it is blue
[14:37] <gartral> abhi_nav_: try psycho_oreos idea first
[14:37] <abhi_nav_> ok
[14:38] <gartral> abhi_nav_: im asking you to tell your wifi hardware to reset itself ;)
[14:38] <abhi_nav_> gartral: psycho_oreos should I try to connect while eth is connected?
[14:38] <abhi_nav_> ok
[14:38] <tristanik> cè nessuno che mi puo dare su una wep?
[14:38] <minderaser> psycho_oreos: I've tried that with instructions from http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php. No luck
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> Justin_: is there a bug logged for it
[14:38] <psycho_oreos> abhi_nav_, not a good idea, epecially when you have got an IP address from your router
[14:38] <gartral> abhi_nav_: i would disconect eth cable
[14:38] <psycho_oreos> minderaser, I believe there's a package in ubuntu repos for that
[14:39] <abhi_nav_> gartral: psycho_oreos ok i disconnect from cable i try to connect wifi you wait haan
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> Abhi_nav: now its actually doing the right stuff does network manager work as it should?
[14:40] <minderaser> psycho_oreos I'll have to look into that when I get get a wired connection
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Abhi_nav_: could also try installing wicd via the cable and rebooting. Might play nice
[14:40] <psycho_oreos> minderaser, you don't have wired connection? heh
[14:40] <minderaser> ActionParsnip: I'll see what I can get done with the link you sent
[14:40] <rifter> alfatau, well it's been awhile since I dealt with ppp but I am thinking about an authentication method issue. you say you are connecting now with the same name and password.. under what os?
[14:40] <matt1s> I have managed to close down that applet that shows Pidgin, Empathy and Evolution, how do I get it back?
[14:40] <pocisk> yyyyyyyyyyy
[14:41] <suma> hi.. can anyone tell me how to connect to internet in ubuntu 9.04 using reliance netconnect
[14:41] <alfatau> rifter: now windows xp
[14:41] <minderaser> psycho_oreos: Well, there's one here, but my g/f's young son would have a fit if I interrupted his runescape game :-\
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> Suma: does it use a usb modem? Is it 3G? You need to tell us more
[14:42] <gartral> is wine working right for 64 bit yet?
[14:42] <psycho_oreos> minderaser, ahh typical, well I think if you went through hardware drivers you should be able to install wl
[14:42] <alfatau> rifter: i noticed looking at /var/log/syslog there's a message saying "PAP Autentication failed"... while i choosed CHAP from pppconfig...
[14:43] <rifter> alfatau, yeah that's what I am thinking of
[14:43] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, I've been trying to get wicd to work with the Belkin USB wifi adapter RT2870 driver , no luck with ndiswrapper or wpa_supplicanr thru the cli either ...really stumped. Wicd worked great with it in jaunty ,but not in karmic and lucid
[14:43] <rifter> alfatau, some isps used mschap
[14:43] <rifter> alfatau, which is a windows-only extension of chap
[14:43] <suma> hello... can anyone help me solving my problem
[14:43] <rifter> alfatau, but I think there is a solution let me see
[14:44] <alfatau> rifter: well, is there a way to use CHAP? i choosed CHAP in pppconfig... while pppd still tries connecting using PAP?
[14:44] <matt1s> How can I start the Indicator Applet???
[14:44] <psycho_oreos> suma, never used reliance netconnect, never heard of it as well
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> Blueskaj: I use it after I kept getting asked for pam passwords. Pus its de independant :). Weird its not paying. Did you tell wicd the wifi interface name?
[14:45] <rifter> alfatau, you have t o use what the isp is using
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> Suma: we can't help you unless you give details
[14:45] <rifter> alfatau, I am looking at the methods for getting mschap on there
[14:45] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, the IF name,  essid name , even tried static IP ...nothing
[14:46] <psycho_oreos> BluesKaj, I'm sure there's rt2870-sta driver floating in the ubuntu repository
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Blueskaj: tried the curses interface too? Should be identical but worth a try
[14:46] <rifter> alfatau, although.. maybe you should see what happens when you choose pap since it's saying pap authentication failed
[14:46] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, curses interface ?
[14:46] <alfatau> rifter: thank you. i'm looking what method my isp wants we use...
[14:47] <Voltaplein> Hi -- network manager question. I set up a vpn definition using the network connections app in the system prefs menu.  Now, how do I get it to actually connect?  I can't seem to find a "Connect" button for it
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> Blueskaj: it has a cli interface
[14:47] <psycho_oreos> ncurses, GUI lookalike command line
[14:47] <abhi_nav_> dear gartral and ActionParsnip: psycho_oreos: i am unable to connect using wifi. actually there is one more prob that while on this ethernet, i can connect to it but every app on my comp shows that i am not connected I means there is something more to do with this
[14:47] <alfatau> rifter: so i should chooose pap instead of chap?
[14:47] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, like /etc/network/interfaces for my eth0 connection ?
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> Suma: you can't seriously expect us to know the technicalities of every worldwide provider. No details == little or no help. Your choice
[14:48] <abhi_nav_> i have, network manager, network, wifi radar, xnetcardconfig. among that only xnetcardconfig works for ethernet all other just dont detect that cable is connected
[14:48] <psycho_oreos> abhi_nav_, I think some programs like firefox may work offline, but if you used nm those applications may become aware
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Blueskaj: type wicd and hit tab
[14:48] <Lanlost> Hey, if I'm writing a bash script and I have a command that I don't want it's output to display in the terminal during the script.. how can I get its output redirected to.. /dev/null
[14:48] <sash_> Lanlost: command > /dev/null
[14:48] <abhi_nav_> what is nm?
[14:48] <rifter> alfatau, you should try it and see, meanwhile I am looking into how to get the mschap modules on so you can use that in case the answer is to use mschap
[14:48] <psycho_oreos> abhi_nav_, network manager
 such as like echo "Test" > /dev/null .. type statement
[14:49] <Lanlost> heh, I said that in a another channel.
[14:49] <psycho_oreos> abhi_nav_, in that case it is, but usually nm on irc is known as never mind
[14:49] <Lanlost> I didn't test it first of course.. it doesn't work with the command I want
[14:49] <abhi_nav_> psycho_oreos: that network manager applet tells me that eth cable is not connected and no wifi is on
[14:49] <abhi_nav_> !nm
[14:49] <rifter> actually you don't want to write to /dev/null like that
[14:49] <jevidl> Does anyone have some suggestions to troubleshoot /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ scripts? I have checked the permissions on the script, and it runs correctly if I call it manually. All the reading I've been able to find indicates that scripts in this directory should be run when networking is started up. Am I misunderstanding how this should work? Am I missing something?
[14:49] <psycho_oreos> abhi_nav_, so you need to switch wifi on, btw you shouldn't have more than one application controlling the interfaces, it'll only conflict
[14:50] <alfatau> rifter: ok
[14:50] <Lanlost> I'm not using that.. I wanted it to work for pactl when you load pulseaudio modules.. it says "failed to load module" or whatever OR just outputs a number.. if I try to forward it to /dev/null it prints it anyway..
[14:50] <Lanlost> brent@redroom ~ $ pactl load-module yourface >> /dev/null
[14:50] <Lanlost> Failure: Module initalization failed
[14:50] <alfatau> rifter: i need to disconnect. i'll come back in a while (i hope with ubuntu box), thank you a lot
[14:51] <abhi_nav_> psycho_oreos: my wifi is on xnetcardconfig and 'Network' can detect it but network manager cant and 'Network' can only theoretically conncts my eth but xnet.. is one who actually connecte me to eth
[14:51] <rifter> alfatau, ok see you soon
[14:51] <psycho_oreos> abhi_nav_, the thing that stumps me is why are you using xnetcardconfig and not network manager?
[14:52] <abhi_nav_> becaue network manager tell me that i have not connected any cable to computer (but in real it is there connected) and xnet (only) can detect and connecte me to internet
[14:52] <abhi_nav_> psycho_oreos: becaue network manager tell me that i have not connected any cable to computer (but in real it is there connected) and xnet (only) can detect and connecte me to internet
[14:52] <psycho_oreos> abhi_nav_, I think in that case, the interface for wired is actually turned off
[14:52] <abhi_nav_> psycho_oreos: how to turn it on for eth and wireless?
[14:52] <psycho_oreos> abhi_nav_, its not hard to turn the wired interface up, a simple terminal/console command like ifconfig ethX up
[14:53] <sash_> abhi_nav_: is NetworkManager started
[14:53] <psycho_oreos> abhi_nav_, and no I wouldn't recommend associating both wired and wireless, it'll never work with multiple gateways
[14:53] <dsnyders> Hi all!  When I log into XFCE or KDE all is fine, but when I log into GNOME, my screen resolution is undisplayable by my monitor.  How can I change it?
[14:53] <abhi_nav_> sash_ NetworkManager is started and is ther on top right corner. I cn left/right click on it, can go to properties etc
[14:53] <sash_> this is not NetworkManager
[14:54] <sash_> this is the nm-applet
[14:54] <pipegeek> How does one go about creating a wallpaper bundle like "cosmos", such that the wallpaper changes periodically?  I put some images in a directory, copied /usr/share/backgrounds/cosmos/background-1.xml into that directory and edited it to match said files, and restarted gnome, and it's still not showing up in the wallpaper control panel
[14:54] <abhi_nav_> psycho_oreos : i done ifconfig eth0 up but network manager is still sleeping
[14:54] <giver89> Hola, alguien me puede decir que tengo que modificar para que al crear un usuario se me una directamente a los grupos por defecto que quiero?
[14:54] <abhi_nav_> !en | giver89
[14:55] <pipegeek> I like that nautilus can be made to change your background periodically, but I'd like it if I could tell it to use *my* pictures
[14:55] <abhi_nav_> ssh_ which network manager then?
[14:55] <gartral> brb all
[14:56] <sash_> abhi_nav_: /etc/init.d/NetworkManager
[14:56] <psycho_oreos> abhi_nav_, probably because of all the other network interface programs running and causing a collision, you need to kill them and use network manager
[14:56] <abhi_nav_> sash_ are you talking about syste=>admin=>network?
[14:56] <dsnyders> pipegeek, You could see if you could find the folder where it keeps its photos, then put yours there.
[14:56] <pipegeek> dsnyders: As I said above, I did that, but thank you
[14:56] <Cyclope> guys any idea how to kill a particular screen session?
[14:56] <icorbett> Cyclope: ctrl-a k
[14:56] <abhi_nav_> ok
[14:56] <faileas_> Cyclope: do you use screen profiles?
[14:57] <sash_> abhi_nav_: try /etc/init.d/NetworkManager start or stop and then start. then killall nm-applet and nm-applet
[14:57] <dsnyders> pipegeek, Sorry, I missed that.  All I saw was the part where you tried to point it at your photos.
[14:57] <pipegeek> ah
[14:58] <Cyclope> icorbett that didn't work... its just stuck
[14:58] <abhi_nav_> psycho_oreos: and sash_ when initialy ther only was network manager (that top right one) in my pc (after 10 days of installation) it started to show me that cable is not connected, but in real i can open web browser can i am able to surf internet. in show i am connected to net but network manager dont know this. do from that net i installed xnet and all other softwares
[14:58] <icorbett> Cyclope: then it is likely not just the screen session that is hung
[14:58] <Cyclope> faileas_ no just screen sessions
[14:59] <Voltaplein> Hi -- network manager question. I set up a vpn definition using the network connections app in the system prefs menu.  Now, how do I get it to actually connect?  I can't seem to find a "Connect" button for it
[14:59] <icorbett> Cyclope: try logging in via a separate console and run `screen -DR` to try to reattach
[14:59] <psycho_oreos> abhi_nav_, well stop them from running, disable them from loading at boot
[14:59] <Cyclope> thanks icorbett and faileas_, as icorbett pointed out there was a process in hung state :)
[15:00] <pipegeek> back
[15:00] <faileas_> Cyclope: tried exit?
[15:00] <faileas_> ahh
[15:00] <sash_> abhi_nav_: network-manager-gnome or nm-applet like to go crazy imho
[15:01] <Rix> hi, how do i specify the destination dir when downloading files with wget(the directory where the files will be downloaded)
[15:01] <abhi_nav_> sash_ ok
[15:01] <abstrakt> Rix, man wget
[15:01] <abstrakt> Rix, it goes in to . by default
[15:01] <abstrakt> Rix, you could just cd into where you want to be first
[15:01] <abstrakt> Rix, or you could read the manual
[15:01] <Rix> i want to specify the dir
[15:02] <Gartral> ok im back, had to reboot for kernal
[15:02] <Rix> i cant find it in the man
[15:02]  * abhi_nav_ thinking what to do now. Lots of complex steps involved. What to do...........
[15:03] <dsnyders> Rix, man pages are notoriously vague. :-(  I jusually just cd to where I want the file and then wget from there.
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> Rix: I think its -O
[15:03] <Rix> aha okey i will try that
[15:03] <Rix> thanks a lot
[15:04]  * abhi_nav is back to docs. hmmmmmmmm
[15:04] <abhi_nav> !wireless
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> Rix: wget http://site.com/thing -O $HOME/Documents
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> Etc
[15:04] <Rix> thanks :)
[15:04] <justin_> I cannot get networked windows shares to automount through /etc/fstab. Please help!
[15:06] <sbts> Rix: be careful, from the man page -O The documents will not be written to the appropriate files, but all will be concatenated together and written to file.
[15:06] <haffe> 82378[5~[6~[6~278[5~[6~[A
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> Rix: could be wrong but its free to try. If you read the medibuntu repo guide it uses directed wget there too. You can get the syntax there
[15:06] <MixLaToR> Hello guys, i want resize my windows to lower space so that i can add the free space created to my Ubuntu 9.10 ..how to ?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> Mixlator: use gparted in livecd
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> Mixlator: make sure your backups are recent incase of catastrophe
[15:07] <MixLaToR> ActionParsnip, that 'd harm my windows partition i guess
[15:07] <dsnyders> !dualboot
[15:08] <sbts> Rix: you actually want -P targetDIR
[15:08] <rifter> ActionParsnip, you are correct
[15:08] <rifter> justin_, do you have smbfs installed?
[15:08] <Raimokoo_sauna> +
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> Mixlator: it will allow you to resize the partitions to get more space. It shouldn't harm anything
[15:08] <MixLaToR> ActionParsnip, this is how to: reboot from my liveCD, resize windows partition from 70 Go to 50 Go , format the 20 Go ext3 ...and reboot from the hard....is this right ?
[15:09] <sbts> Rix: as long as you read the description of the options the man page is actually consise.
[15:09] <justin_> rifter, Yes, I do.
[15:09] <dsnyders> MixLaToR, You forgot: Back up windows in case of catastrophe... step one.
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> Mixlator: you can write to ntfs in linux so why not just have a folder you can dump stuff in. You can symlink it into you home folder for easy access
[15:09] <rifter> justin_, well what happens when you do the mount -t smbfs command manually wih the same options that are in fstab?
[15:10] <rifter> justin_, er put sudo in the front of that obviously
[15:10] <rifter> sbts, indeed it is
[15:10] <jevidl> I am trying to use an iptables-restore script from /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/. It doesn't seem to be called when the computer starts up, though I can run it manually. I have ensured that the script has the correction permissions (755) and I can run it fin manually
[15:11] <MixLaToR> dsnyders: sure ; ActionParsnip : i want try some other stuffs...(appache+bind+php....)so my 10 Go right now is not enough
[15:11] <rifter> sbts, I missed that he wanted a directory and not a file
[15:11] <hmw> i once had a "desklet" that displays cpu, network and other statistics. it was roughly 20% width of the desktop and 100% height, dark and transparent. I can't remember, what it was. Can you tell me, which programs to check out?
[15:11] <jevidl> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to do further troubleshooting?
[15:11] <rifter> sbts, -O is for a file
[15:11] <justin_> rifter, it worked! But I had to put the IP address of the server instead of the server name
[15:11] <sbts> hmw: sounds like gkrellm
[15:11] <rifter> justin_, well  then you have a dns problem
[15:12] <bazhang> hmw, conky?
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> Mixlator: gotcha, yeah you'll need to resize to get more room. Once your backups are sound you can go crazy and restore if it goes bad. It should be fine though. There are guides all over
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> !resize
[15:12] <sbts> rifter: Yep sure is, use it all the time, but had to check man page for -P
[15:12] <rifter> justin_, when you do nslookup [servername] what happens? and are you using a fully qualified domain name or just the server name
[15:12] <hmw> sbts: bazhang: thanks, checking
[15:12] <justin_> Well, I can use the IP address, that is not a big deal. :) When I tried to mount the second though, it says can not change directory into mount target /media/video
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> !dualboot
[15:12] <MixLaToR> ActionParsnip, cheers buddy ;) & thanks for the others too...;)
[15:13] <dsnyders> Hi all!  When I log into XFCE or KDE all is fine, but when I log into GNOME, my screen resolution is undisplayable by my monitor.  How can I change it?
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> Mixlator: one of those says how to resize ntfs partitions
[15:13] <rifter> justin_, if /etc/resolv.conf does not have your taregt domain specified under domain or search then you have to specify the domain when referring to the servers
[15:13] <MixLaToR> ActionParsnip, K
[15:13] <dandy> HD playback within Karmic is very choppy for some reason, it plays fine in windows using the same player (VLC)
[15:14] <Tourist> Go a question. Everytime I try to activate my broadcom drivers in 9.10 it just sits there trying to install and does nothing. Is there a way to activate them from the terminal?
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> Mixlator: gl and happy to help :)
[15:14] <rifter> justin_, /medis/video exists?
[15:14] <sbts> anyone here know of problems with the AU mirrors? having issues with updates on multiple machines :(
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> Dandy: try mplayer. Vlc doesn't use multiple cores
[15:14] <rifter> justin_, /media/video I mean
[15:14] <justin_> rifter, yes, I used mkdir to make it.
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> Dandy: have you installed video drivers?
[15:15] <pracidio> alguem sabe por q  o amsn  nao esta funcionando
[15:15] <rifter> justin_, what is the ownership and permissions?
[15:15] <abhi_nav> !en | pracidio
[15:15] <sbts> justin_: silly question, can you cd into it manually?
[15:16] <dandy> ActionParsnip: I think mplayer is the same, infact it might be even worse, let me just try again
[15:16] <rifter> justin_, when you say "it could not change directory" do you mean that mount gave you an error, or that after you mounted you could not change directory
[15:16] <pracidio> ok
[15:16] <justin_> rifter, yes, I can cd into it
[15:16] <rifter> justin_, which is it
[15:16] <justin_> rifter, the mount command said that it could not change directories
[15:17] <sbts> justin_: another thing to check, is the spelling of both the dir and the mount command
[15:17] <rifter> justin_, well it sounds like an authentication problem ...
[15:18] <justin_> rifter, sbts PEBKAC error, forgot the s on videos lol
[15:18] <sbts> justin_: can you run ls -lad /media/video and post the result
[15:18] <hmw> sbts: bazhang: conky might be it, but it is somewhat different - my thing let me move it around and it automatically docked to the side of the screen - do you know something similar to conky, perhaps?
[15:18] <rifter> justin_, what happens when you do smbclient //servername/sharename
[15:18] <sbts> justin_: eazy fix then :)
[15:18] <rifter> justin_, that'll do it
[15:18] <Voltaplein> Hi -- network manager question. I set up a vpn definition using the network connections app in the system prefs menu.  Now, how do I get it to actually connect?  I can't seem to find a "Connect" button for it
[15:18] <rifter> justin_, we can still fix dns if you want to
[15:19] <justin_> rifter, smbclient produced Domain=[JPSERVER] OS=[Windows Server 2003 3790 Service Pack 2] Server=[Windows Server 2003 5.2]
[15:19] <sbts> hmw: gkrellm does all of that, there are quite a number of options and plugins for it too.
[15:19] <rifter> justin_, yeah if the mount is working now the smbclient is superfluous.. we were gonna use that to test authentication
[15:20] <justin_> rifter, O. How do I fix dns then?
[15:20] <sbts> hmw: other than gkrellm and conky (which I have never used) I can't think of any others, unless you check out the screenlets package, there may be something there.
[15:20] <rifter> justin_, well, first, were you specifying just the servername or servername.domain
[15:21] <justin_> just the server name. Resolv.conf says my domain is just belkin
[15:21] <justin_> rifter, just the server name. Resolv.conf says my domain is just belkin
[15:21] <rifter> justin_, well that is why
[15:21] <justin_> rifter, so in fstab, i need to add .belkin after servername?
[15:21] <rifter> justin_, either you need to specify the server and domain name, or you have to have search include the domain name
[15:22] <rifter> justin_, no ... ok so are  you saying that you don't have a dns server?
[15:22] <justin_> rifter, just the dns built in the router aka <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:22] <Rix> sbts, thanks
[15:23] <rifter> justin_, if you don't have a dns server to service your domain you need to use ip addresses or the /etc/hosts file
[15:23] <justin_> rifter, Well, the IP address works fine with me, it never changes since the server is always on
[15:23] <rifter> justin_, yeah in that case your options are to use ip addresses, a hosts file, or set up the dns server.  IT sounds like to me what you need to choose is the hosts file.. that is the easiest option
[15:24] <rifter> justin_, well that works, too. but iof you want to use names you can add them to th e/etc/hosts file .. that's up to you
[15:25] <justin_> rifter, how would I do that? Add the ip address to hosts and the desired domain name next to it?
[15:26] <Maletor> I just raid 5'd my 4tb's on ubuntu
[15:26] <sbts> justin_: for a very long time I have always setup small (less than 20 pc's) networks with static IP addresses and used the hosts file (on windows and linux machines) to manage name to IP mapping.
[15:26] <jevidl> scripts located in /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ should be executed before the interface is brought up, correct?
[15:26] <sbts> justin_: in linux edit hosts and add lines like "<IP_ADDRESS> mickeymouse"
[15:26] <rifter> justin_, you add the server name and ip address
[15:27] <rifter> justin_, you don't have a domain so you can ignore that
[15:27] <danblick> Could anyone recommend a good strategy for maintaining my system configuration scripts in version control? (e.g., /etc/apache2/httpd.conf , or /etc/puppet).  Are there packaging guidelines I should know about?
[15:27] <sbts> justin_: then when you want to refer to the machine you can just use the name "mickeymouse"
[15:27] <rifter> sbts agreed for this sort of thing hosts is more than adequate
[15:27] <sbts> obviously don't include the quotes in the file
[15:28] <justin_> sbts, rifter, Thanks! I am going to reboot real quick to see if /etc/fstab will work properly
[15:28] <sbts> justin_: np
[15:28] <suma> hi
[15:28] <suma> can anyone solve my problem?
[15:28] <sbts> suma: tell us more
[15:29] <BluesKaj> bah , I gave up on wicd for USB wifi ...works fine withe the broadcom on the laptop, but not with USB adapters
[15:29] <sbts> suma: we can't solve it if we don't know what it is. :)
[15:29] <DuCkNeT> alright guys got a good one here.. need to recover a file without extensions....
[15:30] <suma> i am unable connect to internet through my reliance netconnect in ubuntu 9.04.
[15:30] <suma> can u tell me how to do it
[15:30] <sbts> DuCkNeT: specifically what do you need to do, did you accidentaly delete the file? also what filesystem is it on?
[15:31] <justin_> rifter, sbts Thanks! Worked like a charm! Would I run into problems if I had those file shares mount as ~/Music and ~/Video instead of directories in /media?
[15:31] <sbts> suma: I have no experiance with the reliance netconnect, is it an adsl modem?
[15:31] <sbts> justin_: no problems to mount on ~/Music etc at all.
[15:31] <maria> i am spanihs
[15:31] <suma> sbts:its cdma 1x
[15:31] <DuCkNeT> sbts: ext4 file system i've move the file and now there is nothing in it
[15:32] <sbts> DuCkNeT: what command did you use to move the file?
[15:32] <maria> que soy española
[15:32] <justin_> sbts, Good, my canonical music and video collections are on the server, and I just want to use the desktop as a portal to them! :)
[15:32] <sbts> suma: ok, how old is the modem?
[15:33] <sbts> justin_: easy, oo interest, what software are you using to play the music?
[15:33] <maria> no entendo
[15:33] <DuCkNeT> i move it in gui...
[15:33] <DuCkNeT> cut and paste
[15:33] <suma> sbts:its new one. just 1 month before i bought it. i can connect it in windows xp. but i don't know how to connect it in ubuntu 9.04
[15:34] <justin_> sbts, Have not decided yet, but I am generally a banshee guy
[15:34] <sbts> suma: do you have a 9.10 live cd or installed machine around?
[15:34] <sbts> justin_: cool
[15:34] <ecolitan> DuCkNeT: what kind of file?
[15:34] <justin_> sbts, It works best with my Droid
[15:35] <sbts> DuCkNeT: ouch, that may make things more difficult, I am assuming, as you are using ext4, that the system is 9.10 (karmic)
[15:35] <DuCkNeT> ecolitan its a text file with no extensions
[15:35] <DuCkNeT> sbts extact...
[15:35] <minderaser> So, I've installed the proprietary drivers for my broadcom wireless but can't get it to activate through Hardware Drivers
[15:36] <suma> sbts:i also tried ubuntu 9.10. but it's asking for keyring. even though i entered my admin password many times there, it isn't accepting it.
[15:36] <sbts> DuCkNeT: do you have a partial copy of the text, or even and EXACT copy of one or more lines in the text?
[15:37] <minderaser> crap, I gotta run
[15:37] <obscurant1st> when ever i try clicking on the drives listed in computer:/// it asks for password,
[15:37] <sbts> suma: normally the password for the keyring is not your admin password, the first time you used the keyring, you actually get asked for a new password.
[15:37] <obscurant1st> how can i avoid it?
[15:37] <justin_> How do I adjust the timing of Grub2?
[15:37] <mrxjoy> hello there
[15:37] <mrxjoy> i'm using Karmic Koala
[15:37] <erUSUL> justin_: /etc/default/grub
[15:37] <erUSUL> justin_: sudo update-grub after you edit it
[15:38] <mrxjoy> i would like to ask.. how to configure wireless?
[15:38] <justin_> erUSUL, Thanks!
[15:38] <suma> sbts:what should i do after that? whether i get access to internet after that?
[15:39] <rifter> justin_, actually if you use the ~ you wnat to specify a username
[15:39] <rifter> d'oh
[15:39] <rifter> he's gonna mount it to root's home directory :P :D
[15:39] <DuCkNeT> sbts i know what could have been in the text
[15:39] <sbts> rifter: good catch :) I totally missed that :(
[15:40] <obscurant1st> somebody?
[15:40] <rifter> sbts yeah I was looking at something else when that exchange wen on
[15:40] <sbts> suma: give me a minute
[15:40] <mrxjoy> erUSUL, i wanna ask about wireless setting in karmic koala, could u help me
[15:40] <suma> sbts:ok i'll wait
[15:40] <erUSUL> mrxjoy: what wifi chip does you machine have ?
[15:41] <rifter> sbts personally I would never use a ~ in fstab. it would probably work in ubuntu, but it gives me chills
[15:41] <mrxjoy> how can I check that?
[15:41] <stdisease> mrxjoy, check the output of 'lspci' or 'dmesg'
[15:41] <stdisease> mrxjoy, or 'lshw' if you have that
[15:42] <marcin_> hi. I use first time IRC, so I don't know how to use it. But... I have question. Can I install Linux on extended partition?
[15:42] <erUSUL> mrxjoy: lspci | grep -i net
[15:42] <erUSUL> marcin_: yes
[15:43] <vpathak__> hello - anyone knows why a soft link always has a permission of lrwxrwxrwx ? Even a chmod -w does not seem to make it readonly.
[15:43] <vpathak__> is the link (created by ln -s ) really writeable by anyone?
[15:43] <DuCkNeT> sbts i know what could have been in the text ....
[15:43] <marcin_> erUSUL: thank you
[15:43] <sbts> suma: one thing you can try (on 9.10) is to move the file ~/.gnome2/keyrings/default and ~/.gnome2/keyrings/default.keyring to a different location, this will remove the existing keyring password and let you set a new one. It will however also remove all passwords that have previously been stored in the keychain.
[15:43] <mrxjoy> erUSUL, Intel Corp PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
[15:43] <stdisease> marcin_, as for IRC it's pretty simple check out guides and howtos on the web, as for extended partitions, Linux is perfect installable on them. Whatever your distro is you usually have to choose the customize partitions option or the advanced installation.
[15:44] <vpathak_> hello - anyone knows why a soft link always has a permission of lrwxrwxrwx ? Even a chmod -w does not seem to make it readonly.
[15:44] <erUSUL> mrxjoy: should work out of the box. if you click on the nm-applet (right up corner an icon with two computers) do you see a menu with networks around you ?
[15:44] <vpathak_> is the link (created by ln -s ) really writeable by anyone?
[15:44] <stdisease> vpathak_, because setting permissions on the symlink itself is meaningless, the actual permissions will be of the target file
[15:45] <damnit321> hey all
[15:45] <suma> sbts:what is the actual path of those files. where should i move those files?
[15:45] <usuario_> OLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[15:45] <mrxjoy> erUSUL, ya I can see that...
[15:45] <stdisease> !es | usuario_
[15:45] <usuario_> K OS CONTAIS??????¿¿¿¿
[15:45] <damnit321> i know this might not be the best place to ask . but can I get some software to display whos calling me on a mobile phone on the screen and save the number
[15:45] <erUSUL> mrxjoy: then just choose your wifi network and it should just connect to it
[15:45] <erUSUL> !es | usuario_
[15:45] <damnit321> for nix or windows
[15:45] <usuario_> PUTONES
[15:46] <mrxjoy> erUSUL, that simple?
[15:46] <erUSUL> usuario_: deja ya de molestar
[15:46] <erUSUL> mrxjoy: yep
[15:46] <stdisease> vpathak_, again it's 'writable' only if the destination is writable, or if by writable you mean someone able to modify it, then you need to check the permissions of the directory it is in.
[15:46] <marcin_> stdisease: I read about IRC later. Just I need quick answer for this question. I have (not my) computer with Windows (3 normal partition) and I need install Linux for them ; ) thanks for answer
[15:46] <mrxjoy> erUSUL, wow fantastic...thanks
[15:46] <erUSUL> mrxjoy: no problem
[15:46] <{g}> Hey People! I can display a file from a remote server with "ssh host cat /some/file" but when i try to pump it into vimdiff like this: "vimdiff some/other/file <(ssh host cat /some/file)" i get fifo/socket read errors. Any idea why or how to vimdiff a local file with a file on a distant host?
[15:47] <stdisease> marcin_, if you have a free partition, either extended or primary, then you *can* install Linux on it.
[15:47] <rifter> vpathak_, yes they always have those permissions, but no one can do anything to the directory it points to without passing the permissions of the directory
[15:48] <mrxjoy> erUSUL, can I configure the wireless setting via CLI?
[15:48] <rifter> suma, you could mover them to [filename].old or I like to add a date to my backups like filename.02-26-2010
[15:48] <erUSUL> mrxjoy: see the man pages of iwconfig iwlist and wpa_supplicant.
[15:49] <Subdolus> Hello all, is it possible to have a clickable URL in side a 'ReadmeName'/htaccess readme? like right at the bottom? or do I have to create an html/php page for it
[15:49] <suma> ok
[15:49] <mrxjoy> esUSUL, thanks
[15:50] <stdisease> {g}: try a pipe '|' instead of shell input redirection '<'
[15:50] <mrxjoy> erUSUL, thanks
[15:50] <{g}> stdisease: ok
[15:51] <dsnyders> Subdolus, it all depends on the program that's reading/interpreting the file.
[15:51] <suma> sbts: i am using ubuntu 9.04 now. i have ubuntu 9.10 cd with me now. can i upgrade to ubuntu 9.10 without reinstalling the software completely?
[15:51] <JR_w> I am trying a derivative of Ubuntu Studio (Shackbox) which looks fine-- EXCEPT it boots up with a French keyuboard.  Is there any way I can change it to a US keyboard?
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> suma:  not from the live-desktop cd. the alt-cd can be used as a repo to upgrade. But given the # of updates since 9.10 came out. It may be easiest to just upgrade via the internet.
[15:52] <{g}> stdisease: doesnt work: ssh host cat /some/file | vimdiff - other/file
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> !languate
[15:52] <{g}> stdisease: gives me "too many editor arguments -"
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> !language
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> Hmm..
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> !keyboard
[15:52] <stdisease> JR_w, try 'dpkg-reconfigure console-setup\
[15:52] <stdisease> *console-setup'
[15:52] <phox_> Hi! This is an emergency. I recently formated a disk which had important windows-files in it (pics, docs etc) when i installed ubuntu 9.1 on it. Is there any way to retrieve that information? PLEASE answer!
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> phox_:  very likely. No.
[15:53] <JR_w> stdisease: Thankd!
[15:53] <sbts> DuCkNeT: ok the best thing to do here would be shutdown the machine and reboot in from a live cd, then come back here for further help, basically you will need to do somthing like sudo grep -i -a -U -Bx -Ay 'known text from file' /dev/sda1 | tee /tmp/recovered.txt      this assumes that the drive is /dev/sda and the partition the file is on is partition 1. also you will need to change the -Bx to -B10 (for example) and -Ay to -A10 (for example).
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> !undelete | phox_
[15:53] <ae86-drifter> phox_, photorec
[15:53] <stdisease> {g}: try vimdiff without the '-' I think it automatically reads from stdin when given 1 arg
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> phox_:  You formated a ntfs to be ext3/4 and now want the ntfs files back?
[15:53] <stdisease> {g}: hmm no nvm
[15:53] <phox_> Dr_Willis: yes.
[15:53] <DuCkNeT> sbts ok so i boot with karmic cd live and then come back here and you explain me this ?
[15:54] <ae86-drifter> phox_, if undelete fails use photorec
[15:54] <Dr_Willis> phox_:  all i can say is good luck.   Try the tools suggested I guess.
[15:55] <JR_w> Oh, and Dr_Willis, Too-- thanks
[15:56] <sbts> DuCkNeT: Yes I can try, unfortunately the grep (which is a search) can take a very long time for something like this.
[15:56] <sbts> suma: did you manage to move the files OK?
[15:56] <DuCkNeT> sbts has to be from live cd ?
[15:57] <rifter> phox_, there are data recovery services that might be able to recover drives from formats, but it could cost thousands o fdollars
[15:57] <brma> Anyone ever try to install any of the ubuntu ports for powerpc?  It errors early in the task of installing the base system, without any particular reason given.
[15:57] <rifter> http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=data+recovery+service
[15:57] <sbts> suma: as Dr_Willis said you will be best to update from the web, but if you just want to test if it will work, boot from the live cd and try, you shouldn't have issues with the keyring that way either.
[15:58] <sbts> DuCkNeT: basically that is the best way, the longer you are running the machine with the harddrive mounted, the more chance you have of permanently obliterating the data you want to retrieve
[15:58] <hens> #jember
[15:59] <sbts> phox_: there is a very good company here in Australia that does data recovery at very reasonable rates, they also take on work from all around the globe, give me a moment and I will find a link for you
[16:00] <sbts> rifter: track the info I am giving to phox_
[16:00] <eduard510> Hi Dudes.
[16:01] <vHanda> Do you think it would be possible to use rsync over obex? I wanna sync the contents of my mobile.
[16:01] <SirLoseALot> Hey guys. I'm trying to install the driver for my quickcam messenger, but make install throws an error that I don't know how to solve. http://pastebin.com/m2Qc4Hdg   Error starts at line 7
[16:01] <daviid> Hello
[16:01] <phox_> sbts: thx that would be great..
[16:01] <sbts> phox_: and rifter: the url for the company is http://www.payam.com.au  I have personally spoken to the manager and have clients that have used them, all reports have been 5+ stars
[16:01] <daviid> hellooo
[16:01] <phox_> sbts: is that better then using photorec?
[16:01] <sbts> vHanda: very unlikely, the device needs rsync support too.
[16:02] <SirLoseALot> hello daviid ...
[16:02] <SirLoseALot> Could someone please have a look at that link I posted? I really would like to get this thing to work
[16:02] <rifter> phox_, it depends on two things, how much the data is worth to you and how much you are willing to spend to get it back
[16:03] <sbts> phox_: you may have some luck with photorec, but make sure the drive is mounted readonly. once anything starts writing to the drive, your chances drop VERY rapidly.
[16:03] <daviid> waths your namess?
[16:03] <phox_> rifter: the thing is that the comp is my brothers and i kinda deleted it all without asking, so i kinda have to do it
[16:03] <phox_> sbts: fuck, its been in normal mode all the time, and writing
[16:04] <MilitantPotato1> phox_: there's several bootable partition recovery tools, check out Ultimate Boot CD.   it worked alright for me, didn't get everythng.
[16:04] <stdisease> !language | phox_