[06:41] <superfly> Maaz: tell Kilos Good morning!
[06:41] <Maaz> superfly: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[08:17] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[08:17] <Kilos> we under 30 here again
[08:17] <superfly> hi Kilos
[08:22] <Squirm> hello
[08:22] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[08:22] <Kilos> Squirm, are you back on ubuntu?
[08:23] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[08:23]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[08:25] <Squirm> nope, debian though
[08:27] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[08:27] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[08:27] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[08:49] <Kilos> bbl
[17:06] <zeref-Lap> hurrrmmm
[17:07] <zeref-Lap> whats happening guys
[17:10] <Kilos> evening all
[17:16] <zeref-Lap> hi Kilos


[18:08] <reisio> ampw: ip & pass
[18:08] <Sazpaimon_> anyway i can feel my arguments are falling on deaf ears here, so I'll stop
[18:08] <ampw> reisio: Thank you sit
[18:08] <ChogyDan> gui8765r: are you on ubuntu, with it working?
[18:08] <ampw> sir*
[18:08] <gui8765r> it works great in ubuntu
[18:08] <gui8765r> yes
[18:08] <reisio> Sazpaimon_: well he was complaining about the extra partition is all
[18:08] <reisio> and I can't really blame him
[18:09] <reisio> but I don't dual boot anyways
[18:09] <reisio> and if I did I doubt I'd need to have access to the same media from both OSes the same amount
[18:09] <gui8765r> for example, it does not work in F4UBCD
[18:09] <ChogyDan> gui8765r: what is the driver listed in: sudo lshw -C networking
[18:10] <master_j> who was complaining
[18:10] <Sazpaimon_> also, on a semi-related note, does anyone know the performance difference between raid10 over mdadm versus lvm?
[18:10] <gui8765r> only says PCI (sysfs)
[18:10] <bleach> What the heck is going on? I just went to the Ubuntu site to download the 13.10 ISO and it trys to give me the 12.04 ISO?
[18:11] <Sazpaimon_> bleach, that happened to me when i didnt whitelist ubuntu.com in noscript
[18:12] <reisio> bleach: http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/releases/
[18:12] <k1l> bleach: you can go straight to the isos here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[18:12] <gui8765r> connection information in network manager says Driver: ath9k
[18:13] <ChogyDan> gui8765r: that should be included in the kernel already.  for all distros I think
[18:13] <Sazpaimon_> i think i'll re-ask my question in #ubuntu-server
[18:13] <gui8765r> well i have live distros that do not recognize it
[18:14] <ChogyDan> gui8765r: maybe they are broken
[18:14] <gui8765r> i can look up the actual wifi card if it would make a difference
[18:14] <bleach> reisio/k1l: Thanks I'll try that but obviously there is a problem with the main Ubuntu site.  I've given up trying to fix the 13.10 upgrade and am going to try a fresh installation (aka the way windoz folks fix things).
[18:15] <reisio> bleach: yeah, well, IME it's next to impossible to tell people how to correct their broken website
[18:15] <reisio> bleach: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors is a reliable place to get a download link
[18:15] <bleach> Sazpaimon:  AH! Let me go try that.  Sure don't want to complain of a problem with the Ubuntu site if it is my fault!
[18:16] <_raven_> ChogyDan, ALL features of nautilus, tree structure, double window, appearance ...
[18:16] <gui8765r> Atheros Half Mini PCI-E Wireless Card model AR9280 AR5BHB92
[18:16] <apb> Is anyone using a softphone?  I can't find a softphone that will work on  ubuntu 12.04... they all have some kind of issue of one kind or another.
[18:17] <master_j> (100gb Win7)(100gb 5 Linux distros)(195gb /home)(100gb data)(5gb swap) how about that
[18:17] <reisio> master_j: looks pretty silly
[18:18] <ChogyDan> _raven_: I was going to suggest trying a different one.  I doubt there is a straight forward way to downgrade nautilus
[18:18] <master_j> let me know why and what you'd change reisio?
[18:18] <reisio> master_j: I don't find myself needing six operating systems
[18:18] <ChogyDan> master_j: looks fine, assuming the 5 distros is actually 5 partitions
[18:19] <reisio> ChogyDan: I don't think so
[18:19] <reisio> oh yeah, probably
[18:19] <reisio> with a distro on each, hence silly :p
[18:19] <_raven_> ChogyDan, on 13.04 there was and fork
[18:19] <ChogyDan> reisio: it would be 5 20g partitions
[18:19] <bzupnick> When can I cut in and ask a question?
[18:19] <bleach> Sazpaimon: That was it!  My fault not Ubuntu's!  Thanks again!
[18:19] <master_j> but if say you did want to install different distros of linux.
[18:19] <reisio> bzupnick: just then
[18:20] <oupateddie> bzupnick	just type your question
[18:20] <reisio> master_j: it's not the worst layout ever :)
[18:20] <bzupnick> ha. fine. I installed ubuntu onto my new Lenovo T530 which has an SSD and HDD. I installed ubuntu on the SSD and Grub.
[18:20] <master_j> k, i'm asking because i haven't installed a seperate /home partition before.
[18:21] <master_j> if i could install DOS on one of them that'd be awesome. :D
[18:21] <bleach> My $200 worth!  ALWAYS create a partition or separate drive for home.
[18:21] <oupateddie> my unity keeps on crashing and leaves me without top and side menubars... Any way I can overcome this without rebooting. I'm on 12.04
[18:21] <reisio> master_j: heh
[18:21] <bzupnick> I goto GRUB, and then hit "ubuntu" (it just says ubuntu. that's it) and I see a black screen with a blinking cursor for 30 seconds, then it says "gave up waiting for root device"
[18:22] <reisio> master_j: just tell /etc/fstab where /home is, all there is to it
[18:22] <master_j> sounds like a video issue, bzupnick?
[18:22] <reisio> master_j: well, that and make sure the distro supports the FS /home uses
[18:22] <reisio> bleach: not really that useful for people using a single OS
[18:22] <v2zz> oupateddie my side panel hangs, so i kill unity-2d-shell process and it relaunches by itself
[18:22] <bzupnick> master_j: What do you mean?
[18:23] <bzupnick> running off a live CD worked perfectly
[18:23] <bleach> reisio: It is if you want to reinstall.
[18:23] <master_j> sounds like your video driver is timing out
[18:23] <master_j> i could be way off.
[18:23] <reisio> bleach: nah, but then reinstalling isn't that useful, either
[18:23] <oupateddie> v2zz - ok how doyou kill unity-2d-shell.... on the system monitor processes screen or from command line?
[18:23] <v2zz> oupateddie exatly
[18:23] <bleach> bzupnick:  Is the OS installed on the SSD?
[18:24] <oupateddie> exactly as in system monitor...
[18:24] <v2zz> oupateddie  sorry, on the system monitor processes screen
[18:24] <master_j> reisio: i alwas think i'll never have to reinstall but it does happen. some people just buy new computers every 2 years, i just use the same one and instlal a new OS if i need to
[18:24] <bzupnick> bleach: yes
[18:24] <oupateddie> thanks. It seems as if it happens with libre office
[18:24]  * nongeek hello all
[18:24] <bzupnick> but I also tried doing everything on the HD, and I got the same error
[18:24] <nongeek> I want to configure ipsec, in apsec.secret file I see "your_pre_shared_key" , What is it?
[18:25] <v2zz> oupateddie  and i guess running unity-2d-shell from cmd is possible, if it's not relalunching by itself
[18:25] <bzupnick> here's what it displays after 30 seconds: http://pastebin.com/jhyHdF0W
[18:25] <bleach> bzupnick: When you boot from the live CD is the SSD visable and does your new installation show up?
[18:25] <oupateddie> ok thanks, it's irritating to sit with screens open and no top menu ....
[18:25] <t38> bzupnick:are you dual-gooting with win 8
[18:26] <t38> booting*
[18:26] <master_j> i could definitely see myself running ubuntu, arch, debian, and something else. and just pick what i feel like working with, and sharing data between them. that can't be too rare, can it reisio
[18:26] <grimeton> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh-cnaJoGCw
[18:26] <nongeek> any idea?
[18:26] <bzupnick> bleach: by "viable" do you mean can I go into the directories? If so, I don't know but I'm booting now to check
[18:26] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone , I am using Ubuntu 13.10 with amd radeon  hd 6450 , using open source drivers
[18:26] <bzupnick> t38: It came with windows 7, and I wiped it
[18:26] <ripthejacker> and the display is completely broken
[18:27] <ripthejacker> http://imagebin.org/274840
[18:27] <ripthejacker> it looks like this
[18:27] <oupateddie> ripthejacker	check if there are proprietory drivers to load... Might be the problem
[18:27] <TheNeverWorldhac> Hay What up
[18:28] <roby123> hello
[18:28] <bleach> bzupnick: Are you offered the "(recovery mode)" by gurb when you try to boot from the SSD or HD?
[18:28] <nightmare365> how do i reload the unity panel service
[18:28] <ripthejacker> oupateddie: but the ubuntu documentation says that the open source drivers fully support my card
[18:28] <roby123> list please
[18:28] <reisio> master_j: unfortunately it's not too rare
[18:28] <master_j> unfortunately :P
[18:28] <oupateddie> ripthejacker	sometimes not.. I had a problem with an intel card and it took a lot of patience to get it sorted eventually
[18:29] <TheNeverWorldhac> Right click
[18:29] <DJones> roby123: What list? You download UBuntu from the the links on the Ubuntu website
[18:29] <master_j> so you're just against dual booting in general i guess
[18:29] <jalt> hi. what is the easiest way to reinstall a package+dependencies and forcing it to overwrite every existing conf file, including profile-specific ones, with the default packaged versions? (x/l)ubuntu 13.10, x86, up-to-date.
[18:29] <TheNeverWorldhac> useing backtrack 5
[18:29] <bazhang> looking for warez afaict DJones
[18:29] <t38> bzupnick: restart and when you get to grub menu press 'e' and see if its looking at the right partition
[18:29] <DevZero> i want to mount a ntfs drive on /media/xp and set permissions to 600...is that sufficient or would prohibiting execute permissions prevent playing media files?
[18:30] <bazhang> TheNeverWorldhac, thats not supported here
[18:30] <bzupnick> When booting from the live CD, and I can see the SSD and I can see the file structure. I quick peruse and it seems pretty much ok. In the Grub menu I don't see any sort of recovery mode
[18:30] <master_j> i don't think it would prevent it, DevZero
[18:30] <bzupnick> t38: and how do I know which partition it's supposed to be in?
[18:30] <bazhang> #backtrack-linux TheNeverWorldhac
[18:30] <ripthejacker> oupateddie: so what do you intend, it's a problem with my card?
[18:31] <TheNeverWorldhac> did you play gta 5 wet
[18:31] <DevZero> master_j: because obv i don't need to .exe files unless i'm using wine, correct?
[18:31] <TheNeverWorldhac> install wine
[18:31] <roby123> list
[18:31] <roby123> list
[18:31] <master_j> i don't know DevZero i just think you'd be able to play audio files without having them set to +x
[18:31] <TheNeverWorldhac>  to use .exe
[18:32] <master_j> so, yeah
[18:32] <k1l> !list > roby123
[18:32] <DJones> !piracy | roby123
[18:32] <oupateddie> ripthejacker	that is a good question. I had a problem where the graphics caard just crashed immediately on boot up. Then I installed the drivers and by regular updates of the x-org it solved itself... Some machines is just a problem with graphics
[18:32] <bleach> bzupnick: I gotta go but... you can look in "/boot/grub" to find out what grub is supposed to be configured to boot from and mount.
[18:32] <bzupnick> bleach: thanks! I'll try to work with that....
[18:32] <DevZero> TheNeverWorldhac: so even if permissions are set to 600 i could still execute within wine?
[18:33] <master_j> DevZero: i believe so
[18:33] <TheNeverWorldhac> does ant no how to unjailbreak a ps3
[18:33] <bleach> bzupnick: It's kind of a pain.  Someone else mentioned that you should be able to type and "e" when the boot menu comes up.
[18:33] <master_j> because windows doesn't use flags
[18:33] <ripthejacker> oupateddie: proprietary drivers may solve my problems,I've been doing that ever since I got this cheap card.
[18:33] <DevZero> makes sense
[18:33] <DevZero> ok
[18:33] <bzupnick> bleach: I can press 'e' and all the options come up, but the problem is knowing what to change
[18:33] <ripthejacker> oupateddie: but I was wondering if I could get the radeon driver to work
[18:34] <bazhang> !ot | TheNeverWorldhac
[18:34] <oupateddie> ripthejacker That I'm not sure of, perhaps ask Google a question. You might get a solution.
[18:34] <TheNeverWorldhac> ever time i fw it say error
[18:34] <t38> bzupnick: boot from cd and install boot-repair (in memory, of course). That should make sure your grub is correct
[18:35] <bzupnick> t38: I've done that already. didn't help
[18:35] <TheNeverWorldhac> ping
[18:35] <bzupnick> t38: the params of the grub entry seem to point to 'hd1', how do I check and see if that's correct?
[18:35] <bzupnick> also it says msdos1. why would it say msdos?
[18:36] <ripthejacker> oupateddie: Ok, thanks
[18:37] <t38> bzupnick: I have a z580 that I've had a devil of a time with... If you do anything to the drives, you can't even access the bios anymore
[18:38] <Chii> Quick question... how might it be possible to copy the drivers from the disk/live disk to my current install?
[18:38] <bzupnick> t38: what do you mean? I'm able to get into the BIOS and screw with the boot order and all that jazz
[18:38] <bzupnick> and I've definitely done a lot of screwing around trying to figure this out
[18:38] <k1l> Chii: just install the needed driver packages
[18:38] <Chii> Because 12.10 installs are not even recognizing ehthernet card, so I cant even get a wired connectin to download drivesr with
[18:39] <Chii> How?  Im trying to get it to recognized my wired connectiong on my laptop and it wont
[18:39] <Chii> yet when I try to run it on the live disk it attempts to install the broadcom package and fails but then it magically detects the wired connection
[18:40] <k1l> Chii: why 12.10? maybe with another kernel (like in 12.04, 13.10) you have more luck
[18:40] <Assault> hi all
[18:40] <Chii> err thats what I mean
[18:40] <Chii> meant
[18:40] <Assault> Where are the USB devices supposed to appear in Ubuntu?
[18:40] <Chii> 12.04.03
[18:40] <Okitain> Assault: what do you want, specifically?
[18:41] <Chii> 13.10 wont even load on this hunk-o-junk >.<
[18:41] <t38> bzupnick: can't do that with the 580.. Installed linux dual-booting with win 8 --- BIOS is now inaccessible
[18:41] <bzupnick> well I'm not dual booting.
[18:41] <Chii> ki1 I do apolgize for the error I meant 12.04
[18:41] <Chii> and I tried 13.10 and it errors out on me
[18:42] <t38> bzupnick:  UEFI bios?
[18:43] <fugutive221_> Hi everyone
[18:43] <Assault> Okitain: well, i have this external USB 3.0 HD, and im new to Ubuntu, i have no idea if Ubuntu has recognized it or not..i dont know where to look
[18:43] <fugutive221_> I'm having serious trouble with my Toshiba laptop
[18:43] <fugutive221_> When I press the round 'start/bootup' button on my laptop only the lights will go on except for my screen which is completely black. No backlit whatsoever.
[18:43] <fugutive221_> HELP!
[18:43] <bzupnick> t38: Not entirely sure what that means but, on boot it shows the Lenovo page, and I hit "enter" then 'f1' and it goes to that blue screen where you can do a bunch of stuff, including changing the boot order
[18:44] <Okitain> Assault: go to the file manager, and see if it's in the left panel.
[18:44] <ABM> Hey can anybody tell me how to chat through Terminal
[18:44] <Okitain> ABM: install irssi and go at it.
[18:44] <Okitain> fugutive221_: does your BIOS stay visible?
[18:44] <Assault> Okitain: its not there
[18:45] <subz3r0> Assault: check the output of lsusb
[18:45] <kaddi> Myrtti: you around? Do you have time for a PM for a second?
[18:45] <Chii> Any idea why ubuntu would not recognize the wired card?
[18:45] <Okitain> Assault: go to terminal, input lsusb, tell if you see anything.
[18:45] <Chii> or should I try blacklisting ipv 6 as I've seen indicated?
[18:46] <fugutive221_> Okitain: How can I see that?  Go to the nearest tech shop.
[18:49] <Chii> so no one knows? :x
[18:49] <OerHeks> fugutive, what videocard ?
[18:50] <Guest1099> Hello
[18:50] <metasansana> Is there a way to periodically clear a tmpfs filesystem?
[18:51] <Okitain> Chii: I'm afraid that's impossible without specifics.
[18:51] <fugutive221_> Okitain: At least I can tell you what I did. Through windows 8.1 I tried to let it boot up from my USB stick so I could do a boot-repair (made with the lili usb creator.). The BIOS told me (I could see that through the not Windows layout) there was no usb booting up ability what soever.
[18:51] <Myrtti> kaddi: not really, going to cook. BBL.
[18:51] <gordonjcp> Chii: proprietary driver for what, and why?
[18:51] <Eagleman7> Is it possible to set up permissions and ownerships with NFS, as you would normally do with a normal hard disk?
[18:51] <chro> sha1sum, how do you suggest I debug the keyboard issue ?
[18:51] <gordonjcp> Eagleman7: yes, but (as you might expect) it gets a bit complicated
[18:52] <Eagleman7> gordonjcp: would iscsi be better for that purpose?
[18:52] <gordonjcp> Eagleman7: consider what happens when user lists aren't in sync between the client and server machines, and you don't take care to work round that
[18:52] <Chii> gordon jcp Im using an inspiron 1501.... old laptop.  It appears to need to use the broadcom drivers for wireless... however at this point its not even detecting my wired ethernet unless I attempt to enable said broadcom drivers using the live disk
[18:52] <gordonjcp> Eagleman7: depends what you're trying to do
[18:52] <kaddi> Myrtti: ok.. just wanted to let you know I was not trying to impersonate you or steal your nick just now.. I'm just very used to being myrti and didn't realised I wasn't the one registering it, when it came up as registered.. I've never known anyone else using that nick ;p
[18:52] <Chii> at that point it fails... but magically sees my wired connection and I can now use it
[18:52] <gordonjcp> Chii: oh, no idea
[18:52] <fugutive221_> Okitain: After that I could choose some booting up menus. And there also was a option of booting up from USB. After that I think I f*ck*d up my system
[18:53] <Chii> Or how or why would it not be seeing my WIRED connection?
[18:53] <Chii> never mind
[18:53] <Chii> I somehow made it work
[18:53] <Chii> It boggles my mind the voodoo involved in this lol
[18:54] <fugutive221_> Okitain: It seems that it is in some kind of hybernate mode. Is it maybe good to but my battery and and put it back in after 10 minutes?
[18:54] <Okitain> fugutive221_: yes, do that.
[18:54] <Eagleman7> gordonjcp: I am experimenting with FreeNAS ZFS and the harddisks is now directly attached to my ubuntu machine with different permissions and owner ships on folders. When i will change to ZFS i need a new way to setup access to harddisks on my ubuntu machine
[18:56] <Eagleman7> I am currently using esxi with RDM to attach my disks to Ubuntu
[18:56] <Assault> lsusb or fdisk do not display the USB HD...well, I guess its just not possible to use
[18:56] <Assault> on Virtualbox
[18:56] <fugutive221_> Okitain: Please stay tuned. I will update you with some info wether it is going to work or not :P
[18:57] <Okitain> fugutive221_: I'm afraid I can't stay tuned. Work to do.
[18:57] <Eagleman7> gordonjcp: so i am trying to figure out which system works best to access my files over the network
[18:57] <fugutive221_> Okitain: Thanks anyway :D
[18:58] <subz3r0> Assault: you need to install the guest additions in addition to get usb working under virtualbox ;)
[18:59] <ABM> Guest addition is generally provided in the package itself
[19:00] <subz3r0> ABM: and?
[19:00] <Eagleman7> gordonjcp: you still here?
[19:00] <subz3r0> also he needs Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-.... to get usb working
[19:00] <subz3r0> no virtualbox extension no usb
[19:01] <ABM> so no download required if you have the offline pacakge of the VirtaulBox
[19:01] <subz3r0> ABM
[19:01] <subz3r0> thats bullshit
[19:01] <ABM> what
[19:01] <subz3r0> Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack is NOT delivered with virtualbox
[19:02] <whoever> hi all, i have multible monetors. what pkg will allow each screen to have its own screen save and active time?
[19:02] <subz3r0> you need to download it from virtualbox.org and install it @virtualbox
[19:02] <fugutive221_> Okitain: I think putting the battery out and in worked ;D
[19:02] <gordonjcp> Eagleman7: for about ten seconds...
[19:02] <gordonjcp> Eagleman7: iSCSI is great if you want something to pretend to be a disk on a client machine
[19:02] <ABM> I have the   .deb file of the VirtualBox and it had all the things required
[19:03] <gordonjcp> Eagleman7: what your client machine sees is actually a block device, that you can partition, format etc
[19:03] <subz3r0> ABM. no it does not
[19:03] <subz3r0> see here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[19:03] <ABM> I don't use the VirtualBox provided in the Software centre
[19:03] <gordonjcp> Eagleman7: if you want more than one machine to share an iSCSI target you have to use a filesystem that supports multiple access
[19:04] <Eagleman7> gordonjcp: would it be smart to setup samba/nfs on the ubuntu machine which then has the iscsi disk attached
[19:04] <subz3r0> ABM: you dont really know what youre talking about, do you?
[19:05] <subz3r0> oracle DOES NOT ship the extension back with any .deb file
[19:05] <subz3r0> pack
[19:05] <gordonjcp> Eagleman7: you could do, depends what you're trying to achieve
[19:05] <gordonjcp> Eagleman7: experiment, and keep backups
[19:05] <ABM> yes I know very well about the Guest additions that enable us to use USB and full screen support
[19:05]  * gordonjcp -> out
[19:06] <Eagleman7> alrght, thanks for the explanation
[19:08] <subz3r0> ABM: Guest Additions != Extension Pack!
[19:08] <subz3r0> ABM: but never mind... youre the hero...
[19:10] <apb1963> Is anyone using a softphone? I can't find a softphone that will work on ubuntu 12.04... they all have some kind of issue of one kind or another.
[19:11] <ABM> But hey I m able to use everything without ur "Extension pack"
[19:11] <bekks> apb1963: What do you mean by "softphone"? Something like skype, or a VoIP solution?
[19:12] <apb1963> bekks: Yes... but not skype.  Something that uses SIP
[19:12] <ABM> and by the way the   .deb package is available and I have used it and I am still using it
[19:12] <bekks> ABM: Obviously you dont know nothing about it. Since version 4.x, onlx the extension pack provides the ability to use USB2, and neither the guest additions nor the extension ever were responsible for fullscreening a guest.
[19:12] <apb1963> bekks: something like linphone, jitsi, zoiper, sflphone, etc.
[19:14] <apb1963> even phonerlite :)
[19:14] <bekks> apb1963: So no VoIP solution then.
[19:14] <apb1963> bekks: VoIP is what I need, yes.
[19:15] <ABM> BUT I can use my USB without it.........tell me how  is it possible then
[19:16] <bekks> ABM: As I said. USB_2_ support is provided by the extension pack only, USB_1_ support is provided without the extension pack at all.
[19:16] <whoever> is there a w7ay to set a different screen saver per lcd monetor witout losing drag and drop betwwen the monetors
[19:16] <bekks> ABM: Here's a list, unfortunately in german - but the names and operating systems are readabe in english, too: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_VoIP-Software
[19:17] <subz3r0> ABM: maybe your a magician... i dont know or care... but you have simply no clue what youre talking about.
[19:18] <ABM> bekks :Plz explain what is USB_2 and USB_1
[19:19] <bekks> ABM: USB is USB standard version 1, USB2 is USB standard version 2.
[19:19] <subz3r0> bekks: :D
[19:19] <bekks> ABM: You shuld know that at least when mocking about vbox usb support - just my two cents.
[19:19] <bekks> *should
[19:19] <whoever> using xscreensaver
[19:20] <ABM> What sort of standards
[19:21] <bekks> ABM: Do you know what USB is, actually?
[19:21] <k1l> ABM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#Version_history
[19:22] <ABM> common bekks I m just a learner
[19:23] <t38> apb1963: What's your main problem with the softphones you've tried
[19:23] <ABM> Universal Serial BUS
[19:23] <subz3r0> ABM: HEAD -> WALL, HEAD -> WALL, HEAD -> WALL
[19:23] <subz3r0> anyways..
[19:23] <subz3r0> !OT | ABM
[19:26] <ABM> OK sorry I intentionally entered ur conversations and now on I wud take care of the starting point :D
[19:27] <Nothing_Much> How do I configure debootstrap after the --second-stage part?
[19:29] <Nothing_Much> How do I configure debootstrap after the --second-stage part?
[19:29] <ABM> Oh common if u r talking about USB 2.0 then also I m able to use that in my VBox
[19:30] <Nothing_Much> Hello?
[19:30] <Nothing_Much> How do I configure debootstrap after the --second-stage part?
[19:30] <Olathe> How long will the updater from 12.10 to 13.04 work?
[19:30] <Alphratz> I dont know :)
[19:30] <Nothing_Much> Olathe, It depends on your internet connection
[19:31] <Olathe> I don't mean how long it takes to finish. How long until I can't use it to update?
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> Olathe, till it goes end of l;ife
[19:31] <Olathe> Oh, OK. Thanks :)
[19:31] <Alphratz> I must wait with my UMTS-Stick wait 14 day's for a Ubuntu update :)
[19:35] <Guest46342> lol
[19:36] <laconic> hello
[19:38] <Guest67294> ola
[19:41] <itsdroidlikehell> .slap anyone
[19:41]  * itsdroidlikehell hails hmol
[19:41]  * itsdroidlikehell drinks a lot of beer
[19:42] <k1l> !ot > itsdroidlikehell
[19:43] <itsdroidlikehell> Are there ne dutch ubuntu users here?
[19:43] <k1l> !nl | itsdroidlikehell
[19:43] <theadmin> !nl | itsdroidlikehell
[19:44] <naz> is there a ubuntu server channel?
[19:44] <Gallomimia> yes
[19:44] <Gallomimia> #ubuntu-server
[19:45] <naz> thanks Gallo, really appreciate it :)
[19:45] <Die_Nadal> Is there a ubuntu-gnome channel ?
[19:45] <Nothing_Much> How do I configure debootstrap after the --second-stage part?
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> Die_Nadal, Not specifically.
[19:46] <mammagamma> salve
[19:47] <mammagamma> !list
[19:47] <jcrza> Do you guys have any idea how to set up a TFTP server that will present the user with a menu to choose from multiple OSes?
[19:47] <Die_Nadal> I found one..
[19:47] <Die_Nadal> lol, thanks though.
[19:47] <Die_Nadal> wilee-nilee.
[19:47] <Die_Nadal> exit
[19:48] <t38> Nothing_Much:   https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> jcrza  start here, not sure if it offers multiple os's https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer
[19:51] <_raven_> 13.10 how to install old nautilus (3.4*) with ALL FEATURES?
[19:52] <jcrza> MonkeyDust: Thanks!
[19:55] <apb1963> t38: the main problem is that they don't work.   They don't do ANYTHING.... I get no window of any kind.  You can see zoiper in the process list but there's no way to interact with  it.  sflphone at first showed a window, but wouldn't register to asterisk... after speaking with the developer it now registers to asterisk, but I no longer get a window... and so can't interact with it.  One of the others gave me something about a method error or something...
[19:55] <apb1963> and so on.
[19:55] <issa2013> hello
[19:55] <ubuntu-beginner> i have a problem with ubuntu 12.04.3 installed with alternate. grub-install /dev/sda : grub could not fin device for /boot not found or not a block device.
[19:55] <issa2013> quelqu'un conais la commande byacc
[19:55] <issa2013> je ne sais pas qu'elle paquet installer  ?
[19:55] <bekks> !fr | issa2013
[19:57] <apb1963> t38: the sflphone developer said that dbus was crashing... so  he changed his code to use a different function... I'm guessing he's still working on it, but no response from him.
[20:03] <harushimo> I'm trying to access a vnc server.  I'm using avahi. It always asks for SSH server. Is there a way to change that?
[20:04] <Anonynimity> Hey, I'm having an issue connecting to my router via wireless internet... I type in <IP_ADDRESS> and it gives me an error "The connection was reset"
[20:04] <Anonynimity> Could someone help me fix this issue?
[20:04] <ubuntu-beginner> \help
[20:04] <b0x> since updating to 13.10
[20:05] <b0x> i keep getting... "screen tearing" ?/
[20:05] <b0x> http://snag.gy/gbfPB.jpg
[20:05] <b0x> sometimes completely distorted
[20:05] <b0x> minimising or moving the window (or even hovering over items) resolves it
[20:05] <b0x> nothing seems to trigger it, just happens occainsionally
[20:08] <t38> apb1963: Which desktop are you running? Gnome, Gnome3?  Do you have openbox or anything else installed, and have you tried one of those?  I may be grabbing at straws here.
[20:09] <sp3ck> Anonynimity, router model, vendor?
[20:09] <NoSpoon42> I get tearing on elementary, but mostly in videos
[20:09] <Anonynimity> Belkin Router model no is no longer on there
[20:09] <k1l> NoSpoon42: please ask elementary support
[20:09] <k1l> !elementary | NoSpoon42
[20:09] <apb1963> t38 kde
[20:09] <NoSpoon42> yeah I was just commenting)
[20:10] <NoSpoon42> thanks
[20:10] <Die_Nadal> in Ubuntu Gnome 13.10, how do you change the GDM log on screen/theme now ?
[20:10] <apb1963> t38 no openbox or any virtual stuff
[20:11] <cuddylier> If I had this as a cronjob, would it run daily? 35 19 *** sh /home/spartanmc/node2script.sh
[20:13] <baggar11> cuddylier: yes on the 35th minute of the 19th hour.
[20:13] <Die_Nadal> in Ubuntu Gnome 13.10, how do you change the GDM log on screen/theme now ?
[20:13] <cuddylier> Good
[20:14] <Guest404> hi all, just installed ubuntu 13.10 on pc that had xp and windows 8 (legacy mode).  Resized/formated  xp partition to be extra ntfs storage, and put ubuntu there too.  Now windows 8 won't show up in grub2
[20:14] <t38> apb1963: Just installed zopier and it pops up just fine... Don't have a sip to connect to, but I'm suspecting in the window environment since you can see the process running
[20:14] <Guest404> Windows 8 usb when going into recover/repair says Windows drive locked
[20:14] <Guest404> Any ideas?
[20:14] <thanosme> Guest404: sudo update-grub2
[20:14] <t38> suspecting something *
[20:14] <apb1963> yeah, a guy in #freepbx told me to add it to the desktop... I was running from the console... now I just need to know how to add it to the desktop :/
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> Guest404, Windows generally is best installed in order of releases they combine their bootloader.
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> xp wont boot W8
[20:15] <Die_Nadal> How can you tell what Gnome VErsion you are running?
[20:15] <Guest404> actually, had winxp, then win 8 preview, then installed win 8
[20:16] <Guest404> even ubuntu can't mount the win 8 partition
[20:16] <wilee-nilee> Guest404, Did leave W8 in its hybrid boot?
[20:16] <Guest404> running update grub2 doesn't find the win 8 partition
[20:16] <Guest404> yes, i believe so wilee-nilee
[20:16] <Guest404> this is not an uefi bios
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> Guest404, That is part of the problem at least the lock, it wont use that as a multi boot
[20:17] <Guest404> so how to get rid of lock? wilee-nilee
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> Guest404, Was it ever a uefi?
[20:18] <OerHeks> Guest404, if your win8 has bitlocker setup, you cannot mount it.
[20:18] <Guest404> from forum searches win 7 repair cd works/is better than win 8.
[20:18] <Guest404> not uefi that i know of
[20:18] <wilee-nilee> Guest404, The hybrid boot is uefi, so you left it in hibernate?
[20:18] <Guest404> when i run repair from win 8 install usb, it gives me error message that drive is locked
[20:19] <Guest404> well, i shut down (actually my kid did)
[20:19] <Guest404> I don't think it was in hibernate
[20:19] <bekks> Guest404: And how is that related to Ubuntu? :)
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> Guest404, I'm not sure, maybe ##windows might help.
[20:20] <Guest404> bekks point taken, I guess it is related in the sense that Im trying to gain a convert to Ubuntu....and well....bricking his win 8 is not helping
[20:20] <Guest404> okay wilee-nilee I 'll try there
[20:20] <apb1963> t38: You didn't find a package for zoiper did you?  You just untarred it, right?
[20:21] <t38> apb1963:Yeah, Its a single file
[20:21] <ubuntutis> anyone know if ajax is included in lamp
[20:23] <t38> apb1963: And I of course picked the FREE version
[20:24] <ChogyDan> ubuntutis: it depends on the software that you install on top of lamp.  Ajax doesn't need anything special from lamp, AFAIK
[20:24] <apb1963> t38: How are you running it?
[20:24] <Anonynimity> io off to work we go
[20:25] <apb1963> t38:  from a terminal?
[20:25] <apb1963> t38: ./zoiper ?
[20:25] <t38> apb1963:  just double-clicked on the binary where it was extracted
[20:25] <garcianc> ubuntutis, ajax is not necessarily part of the lamp stack but the capability you need is there
[20:26] <apb1963> t38:  from a file manager
[20:26] <Gspot> e
[20:26] <apb1963> t38: ?
[20:26] <t38> apb1963:  yeah... lol
[20:26] <ubuntutis> chogydan: what software you talking about
[20:27] <rawfodog> I have a drive that is encrypted with LVM. This is an old sata drive which I am going to put in a friends laptop (theirs broke). They want windows on it so whatever I'm going to do that for them. Thing is, I cant seem to boot off of expternal media with it plugged in. Should I boot a live cd with gparted and wipe the drive ? Will that work ?
[20:27] <bekks> rawfodog: KVM cannot encrypt at all.
[20:27] <bekks> rawfodog: Sorry, LVM.
[20:27] <rawfodog> what do you mean ?
[20:27] <bekks> rawfodog: If they want to put Windows on it, you dont have to do anything. Just install Windows on it.
[20:28] <rawfodog> ok
[20:28] <rawfodog> The CD drive must be broken then
[20:28] <rawfodog> because it bypasses external media to boot from
[20:29] <ChogyDan> ubuntutis: what are you trying to do?
[20:29] <apb1963> t38: still doesn't work for me
[20:30] <ubuntutis> nothing i just want the information to know what i need to do when i install it
[20:30] <bekks> rawfodog: a cdrom is considered to be a "cdrom" in the bios boot order, not "external media".
[20:31] <rawfodog> k bekks
[20:32] <unicornjedi> does anyone know how to use rosegarden or know a better midi sequencer?
[20:32] <t38> apb1963:  I get some gtk warnings if I run it ./zoiper, but it still shows up on the desktop
[20:32] <fak> hola, alguien habla español?
[20:33] <k1l> !spanish | fak
[20:33] <fak> Thnx
[20:33] <gotwig> when can we expect to see unity 8 in ubuntu 14.04
[20:33] <k1l> gotwig: the plan is for 14.10
[20:33] <gotwig> k1l: well, that makes me really sad
[20:34] <linuxbitch> hey
[20:35] <kostkon> gotwig, why?
[20:35] <greek> Hi guys how do I COMPLETELY disable the touchpad in 12.04 LTS?
[20:35] <bekks> greek: Best chances are to do so in the BIOS.
[20:35] <apb1963> so the question then becomes not why does zoiper not work, but why does zoiper not work for my specific instance of ubuntu 12.04 with kde ?
[20:35] <apb1963> t38:  What desktop are you using?
[20:35] <IdleOne> dahkmattah231: you there?
[20:35] <gotwig> kostkon: because I was a unity dev, time ago, and I want to see something new. All unity < 8 is not interessting to me
[20:36] <joaouser> helo
[20:36] <kostkon> gotwig, ok
[20:36] <greek> kostkon is basically my name haha
[20:36] <gotwig> kostkon: we all want to see something new, dont we
[20:36] <greek> bekks, ok thanks
[20:36] <gotwig> but for LTS they want to have something stable, yeah..
[20:36] <boern> i have problem with dota 2 on ubuntu 13.10.. i have a gtx260 and the nouveau display driver(when i use proprietary driver it doesnt even open).. here is a screenshot : http://<IP_ADDRESS>/bmi/www7.pic-upload.de/27.10.13/hf2sey6oyqnq.png .. i know there is an extra channel for steam but there are not much people and maby you have a similar issue and know a solution
[20:37] <sam_uk> Anyone know what to do with this error? 47: /etc/default/grub: Syntax error: EOF in backquote substitution
[20:37] <sam_uk> google doesn't help
[20:37] <bekks> sam_uk: Whats the full error and when do you see it?
[20:37] <sam_uk> trying aptitude -f install
[20:37] <bekks> sam_uk: pastebin the entire output, not just one line please.
[20:37] <t38> apb1963:  Using cinnamon
[20:37] <sam_uk> bekks broken packages
[20:38] <bekks> sam_uk: Pastebin the full output...
[20:38] <IdleOne> dahkmattah231: now?
[20:39] <apb1963> t38: so what that says to me is that there's something wrong with kde.....  how do I install cinnamon (I don't why but I want to call it cinnabun :) )
[20:39] <dahkmattah231> ufw with its default configuration, does it basically blocks all incoming connections except the ones you allow?
[20:39] <bekks> dahkmattah231: Thats the default configuration, yes.
[20:40] <NetCatty_> How do I set the priority for media player to use the media keys and how to switch between them?
[20:40] <dahkmattah231> thanks bekks
[20:41] <boern> how can i hide the join and quid messages i xchat? they are so annoying
[20:41] <boern> quit*
[20:42] <t38> apb1963:  http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1246  need to add the repository
[20:42] <dahkmattah231> boern: settings->preferences->(chatting)General.. and there it is
[20:42] <sam_uk> bekks, http://pastebin.com/NkZfSAfX
[20:42] <bekks> sam_uk: Then pastebin your grub configuration please.
[20:43] <sam_uk> /etc/grub ?
[20:43] <bekks> sam_uk: yes, there it is.
[20:44] <apb1963> t38: thanks.  However, it just occurred to me.... what version of ubuntu are you running?
[20:44] <shhha> hey dual booting question, if i use gparted to make a partition and on this partition i want to install windows 7, is the only format "NTFS"?  and no other that would work ?
[20:44] <bekks> shhha: Correct.
[20:44] <k1l> shhha: yes.
[20:45] <paulus68> shhha: you should probably install windows first and then ubuntu
[20:45] <NetCatty_> windows 7 is still using ntfs?
[20:46] <bekks> NetCatty_: Yes.
[20:46] <bekks> NetCatty_: Even Win 8.1 does.
[20:46] <shhha> paulus68: interesting... is this because if i install ubuntu overall and tick the "LVM and encrypted file" stuff and THEN installed windows it wouldn't work too well?
[20:46] <jmgk> hi shhha
[20:46] <sam_uk> bekks, weird i don't have a /etc/grub i have a /etc/grub.d folder with subfolders in it..
[20:46] <NetCatty_> bekks: didn't they upgraded it to somthing or anther?
[20:46] <bekks> sam_uk: yeah.
[20:46] <therazr> NetCatty_: And they don't know then ReFS will be ready
[20:46] <shhha> jmgk: hi
[20:47] <bekks> NetCatty_: No.
[20:47] <bekks> shhha: No. Generally, Windows messes up the bootloader.
[20:47] <paulus68> shhha: the thing is when you are going to do a dual boot you first need to install windows because it can be messing arround with your bootloader
[20:48] <sam_uk> bekks, I _should_ have a /etc/grub file? right?
[20:48] <bekks> sam_uk: No.
[20:48] <t38> apb1963: I'm running 13.04
[20:48] <sam_uk> no?
[20:48] <bekks> sam_uk: No.
[20:48] <paulus68> shhha: http://lifehacker.com/5403100/dual+boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-in-perfect-harmony
[20:48] <bekks> sam_uk: /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/
[20:48] <ashish2> hi
[20:49] <apb1963> t38: that would make the difference... all kinds of stuff works in 13.04 that doesn't in 12.04
[20:49] <shhha> bekks: aw man.. lol.  now i may just make the entire switch to ubuntu then...   lol paulus68  so is there no way to have a "good" dual boot setup with ubuntu and win7 where the ubuntu half has the LVM and encrypted file feature, are these features worth it also?
[20:49] <ice9> in Uhuntu 13.10 sound there is always background noise when playing any sound!
[20:50] <sam_uk> bekks, http://pastebin.com/vubNE5LA
[20:50] <paulus68> shhha:yes but you need to install windows first and then ubuntu
[20:51] <paulus68> shhha: just follow the guide I mentioned earlier
[20:51] <Jordan_U> shhha: You can have your Ubuntu partitions however you like them, and to be clear it is possible to install Windows second, it just means that you'll have to manually re-install grub after Windows clobbers it.
[20:51] <t38> apb1963:   Worth a shot..  You might like the way cinnamon works. Its kinda 'purty'
[20:52] <sam_uk> bekks, /etc/default/grub : http://pastebin.com/UDb3g7Vb
[20:52] <Jordan_U> sam_uk: Please pastebin your /etc/default/grub .
[20:52] <johnjohn101>   /join #couchdb
[20:53] <master_j> how does this look? http://i.imgur.com/RADFPoQ.png
[20:53] <paulus68> Jordan_U: it's possible to word this way but it's more adviceable to install windows first then Ubuntu this has been the most clean way since a long way back
[20:53] <shhha> paulus68: Jordan_U  hmm thanks, i didn't know that, but that makes sense now.
[20:53] <paulo> 2
[20:53] <paulo> a
[20:53] <paulus68> Work
[20:53] <apb1963> t38 I've heard good things about it... but then I've heard good things about lots of stuff... my biggest fear is that I install it and then get stuck with something that doesn't work... I can't seem do find a support channel for it, other than linux-mint
[20:53] <sam_uk> Jordan_U, Just spotted original/ edited lines & re-edited.
[20:54] <bekks> sam_uk: line 17/18 are messed up.
[20:55] <paulus68> shhha: it's always better to start with windows first because if you work the other way arround your boatloader gets messed up
[20:55] <apb1963> t38: and I certainly don't want to upgrade to 13.04... for one thing it's not LTS I don't think, and for another I hear too many stories about people needing to totally reinstall to get it working.  I can't afford to mess up this machine and don't have another to work with.
[20:55] <t38> apb1963:  The good thing about DE's is - you can always switch back. Just choose the one you want at login
[20:55] <bekks> sam_uk: USe this line for 17/18: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash quiet i915.i915_enable_fbc=1 pcie_aspm=force acpi_backlight=vendor"
[20:55] <sam_uk> bekks, yep just saw that, commented it out now updating
[20:55] <fahadash> My first month as a ubuntu user is over and now ubuntu is acting like windows.
[20:56] <apb1963> t38: I reboot and/or login so little I forget you can change desktops
[20:56] <fahadash> I hit the start button to open that full-screen covering programs menu (or whatever it is called)... I am clicking options, it closes the menu but never launches that application why ?
[20:57] <fahadash> When I use the arrow keys to point to that item and hit enter, it works
[20:57] <t38> japb1963: just log out -> choose your preferred desktop -> log back in
[20:57] <apb1963> t38: for me, logging out is nearly the same as rebooting.... I hate doing it because I always have a boatload of windows open that I hate to reset... although these days with browswers continuing from where they left off, it's not as bad as it used to be.
[20:59] <t38> apb1963: I can understand that. I rebooted mine last night for the first time in about 2 weeks
[20:59] <sam_uk> bekks, that looks happier.. Thanks
[20:59] <Guest54804> Hey all. Does anyone know if, when  using an interactive shell program, it is possible to return to and edit a previously entered line if the command has not yet been terminated?
[21:00] <bekks> Guest54804: Yes, I know it. No it isnt possible.
[21:00] <apb1963> t38: well, getting a softphone working is more important than anything else right now, so I'll go install cinnabun... thank you
[21:00] <BrandonM> OK, thanks a lot, bekks.
[21:02] <t38> apb1963:  Had someone tell me one time about a cinnabun, "try it, you'll like it" - hard to stop after just one. LOL
[21:09] <apb1963> t38: I've never actually tried one... cinnamon rolls, yes... cinnabun... no.  But I can't get the name out of my head.... very....umm... sticky.
[21:09] <apb1963> is anyone else here running cinnamon?  Just in case I need... you know... support
[21:09] <jmgk> hello sburjan`
[21:10] <okay19> How much swap should I use on a new install with 6 gb of ram?
[21:10] <OerHeks> okay19, let the installer decide, if you want hybernate/sleep
[21:10] <apb1963> t38: So I guess it's all installed now... just logout and back in again then huh?
[21:11] <therazr> okay19: Just tell how much space you want to give to Ubuntu, and the installer will decide on the swap space
[21:11] <k1l> okay19: if you want suspend2disk: swap=ram
[21:12] <t38> apb1963: There's always the #linuxmint group IF there are any gotchas
[21:13] <apb1963> t38: how interesting...  zoiper works now... and I didn't even need to run the cinnabun desktop... just install it.
[21:13] <JE> irc.oftc.net
[21:13] <t38> apb1963:  You may have been missing something
[21:14] <andybrine> Evening everyont
[21:14] <andybrine> everyone
[21:14] <Othi`> hello, i'm having an issue with some upstart scripts. it tells me 'setuid: not found'. other scripts calling setuid work
[21:14] <apb1963> apb1963: yeah, I noticed some stuff come down with the cinnabun files, which is what made me think to try zoiper again.
[21:14] <Othi`> google has nothing on it
[21:14] <apb1963> oh look i'm talking to myself
[21:14] <wiak> do anyone got a clue why ubuntu will reboot it self when i run x264 encoding?
[21:15] <t38> apb1963: NOW, will it place a call????
[21:15] <andybrine> Has anyone had this issue with 13.10? It is showing a black background and i am unable to change it
[21:15] <apb1963> t38: yeah, I noticed some stuff come down with the cinnabun files, which is what made me think to try zoiper again.
[21:15] <wiak> no problem with cpu temp, its around ~40c
[21:15] <bekks> wiak: Thermal protection of the hardware, CPU overheating protection, e.g.
[21:15] <apb1963> t38: that's my next test...
[21:16] <wiak> i have a A10-5800K, Noctua cooler, so no problem with temp i belive
[21:17] <apb1963> t38: when I try to add an account I get "can't open file '/zoiper.sh' (error 13: Permission denied)"  --- which also happened on startup but I ignored it
[21:17] <apb1963> "Failed to create startup entry"
[21:18] <andybrine> Im sooo dissapointed with the 13.10 release
[21:18] <andybrine> I have had nothing but problems since installing it
[21:19] <andybrine> has anyone else had problems with no wallpaper in 13.10?
[21:19] <bekks> !anyone | andybrine
[21:20] <miggol> Hey, I just upgraded to 13.10 from 13.04 on an optimus laptop. This broke my xorg (bumblebee/primus) setup, so I purged those packages and have installed nvidia-prime. I am now only able to login to Gnome Flashback no-effects, both kde and unity fail to load their respective window managers.
[21:20] <andybrine> the wallpaper is there when first installed but after a reboot i just get a black wallpaper
[21:21] <k1l> andybrine: did you set another picture as wallpaper to try it out?
[21:21] <k1l> andybrine: what does .xsession-errors say?
[21:21] <miggol> Strangely in flashback glxinfo shows all the right extensions and nvidia-settings says all is fine, though under my display states it has no scanout. How can I troubleshoot this problem?
[21:21] <andybrine> I have set another wallpaper but it wont change
[21:22] <apb1963> t38: sigh... zoiper is frozen on "failed to create startup entry"
[21:22] <l01> Can I use a 64bit Live CD to chroot into a 32bit? (both are Ubuntu)
[21:22] <bekks> l01: Yes.
[21:22] <l01> Are there any downsides?
[21:22] <bekks> l01: No.
[21:22] <l01> like incompatibilities and such?
[21:22] <Jordan_U> l01: Nope. It's only the other way around where there are issues.
[21:22] <l01> okay, thank you =)
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> andybrine, You might try a reset http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[21:23] <miggol> Should I check .xsession-errors after logging into unity? It seems fine from flashback
[21:23] <apb1963> t38: I told it to start at startup... so I imagine it's trying to put install into /etc/rc.d or some such... which of course it can't since i'm not root.  silly zoiper
[21:23] <miggol> Just some gnome-settings-daemon whining
[21:23] <Diren>  Selamlar.
[21:23] <andybrine> ok thanks wilee-nilee
[21:24] <_Bauer> Guys, when I report a problem/crash, or right click on  /var/crash/some.file and report it, the apport is not opening the bug report for me to track - is that normal? how do I fix this behaviour?
[21:24] <apb1963> t38: oh look... a kill and a restart and now it registers...
[21:25] <r3dfish> has anyone printed any of the 3d printable cases for their udoo yet, I found a couple on thingiverse
[21:25] <t38> apb1963: Interesting.  I would probably just start it with a script of my own.. Are you running the full version?
[21:25] <andybrine> I still have no wallpaper
[21:26] <apb1963> t38: free version
[21:26] <apb1963> t38: Calls out :)
[21:26] <t38> apb1963: SWEET
[21:27] <Die_Nadal> Anyone using STEAM here?
[21:27] <Die_Nadal> To play games that is... ?
[21:28] <k1l> !details | Die_Nadal
[21:28] <bitplane> Hi all, I think I've found some sort of problem with either the autotools or gobject-introspection packages, and need someone familiar with autotools to help me please
[21:29] <apb1963> t38: However... it doesn't ring on incoming
[21:31] <_Bauer> guys, this problem is NOT fixed yet... https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-gnome/2013-October/000940.html or am I missing something? its a very big problem...
[21:31] <jurgis_t> omg! dunno what you guys did but blender just runs so much faster on my 7 year old thinkpad after the latest ubuntu update. Thank YOU!!!
[21:33] <t38> apb1963: No big deal.. You prolly didn;t wanna talk to them anyway.  Did you say you were running asterisk?
[21:34] <tw0> hi
[21:34] <alex_> hey installing ubuntu onto my macbook via usb stick, currently in trminal waiting on the last command in tutorial to finish and it is taking a while, normal?
[21:35] <alex_> hello?
[21:36] <apb1963> t38: "Them" was me.  lol  yes to *
[21:36] <alex_> anyone in here to offer ubuntu support
[21:36] <alex_> ?
[21:37] <k1l> !details | alex_
[21:39] <Dr_willis> alex_,  and how do we know what the last command was....
[21:39] <alex_> @ubottu Im running Ubuntu 13.10 and installing it to my macbook with a usb stick, ive followed the supplied tutorial exactly and am at the last step: (Execute  sudo dd if=/path/to/downloaded.img of=/dev/diskN bs=1m)     So far its been about 15 mins and no response from terminal except if i would try to close it says it will terminate the running proccess dd sudo
[21:40] <Dr_willis> a dd command can take quite a bit of time to work.
[21:40] <Dr_willis> there will be no response untill its done
[21:41] <alex_> thank you DR Willis, appreciate it
[21:41] <Dr_willis> !tab
[21:41] <bekks> alex_: How big is the /path/to/downloaded.img ?
[21:41] <Dr_willis> i do hope he used the actual path to the img. :)
[21:41] <bitplane> I'm having problems compiling gnome-sound-recorder from source, I installed gobject-introspection but this configure.ac script fails: http://pastebin.com/maEpLgPz
[21:41] <Ben64> alex_: open a second terminal, and type "sudo killall -SIGUSR1 dd"
[21:41] <alex_> thanks for the help all! it just finished *facepalm* so im gonna go do this and feel stupid bye
[21:41] <bitplane> Would this suggest a problem with gobject-introspection package / package name or an autoconf bug?
[21:41] <apb1963> Dr_willis: And the right disk
[21:41] <apb1963> device
[21:42] <trism> bitplane: you might need libgirepository1.0-dev
[21:43] <bitplane> thanks trism!
[21:43] <Dr_willis> bitplane,  if a program is int he repos.. you can use 'sudo apt-get build-dep  packagename' that will pull in all needed dependencies to compile the app. (might be build-deps)
[21:44] <bitplane> Dr_willis, I did that but I'm checking to see if the bug in Ubuntu is also upstream, so I'm compiling git head from gnome.org
[21:44] <rawrmonster> I have paid for Amnesia in the past and want to reinstall on my ubuntu 13.10 but it says not available for your current ubuntu version. please contact the vendor for an update. does anyone know how i can get this installed?
[21:44] <bitplane> trism, that worked. Thank you!
[21:45] <Dr_willis> sounds like its saying  it wont run in your current os version rawrmonster ...
[21:45] <bekks> rawrmonster: Ask the vendor. They do know why they are telling you it isnt available for your version.
[21:45] <rawrmonster> bekks: i paid for it in ubuntu software center though who do i contact?
[21:46] <bekks> rawrmonster: The author, I guess.
[21:46] <x3medima17> hello, everyone. i've just installed ElementaryOS and my battery works just for an hour (on win7 it works 4 hours), i read that problem could be in video adapter, each 5 seconds i hear that cooler starts then stops, what can I do? I own DELL Inspiron N5110
[21:46] <rawrmonster> ok ty for you help
[21:46] <bekks> x3medima17: Ask the elementaryOS support, since thats not supported in here.
[21:47] <x3medima17> bekks, on ubuntu I had same problem, I thought that it's because OS
[21:47] <user239823> Hi there, is it allowed to get support on Ubuntu One and duplicity from here?
[21:48] <wiak> i have two kernels, and want to install a new driver in 3.8 not 3.11 using dkms, can someone gimme a hint?
[21:48] <bekks> x3medima17: You are not on Ubuntu, so thats not a valid support question for this channel :)
[21:48] <apb1963> t38: had more than one softphone running (leftovers from testing)... killing them and reregistering zoiper is all it took.  I take it back, zoiper works on ubuntu 12.04 as long as you have the proper libs and whatnot...gnome/gtk for example.
[21:49] <user239823> Does anyone know how I can get duplicity to backup to Ubuntu One?
[21:49] <user239823> (not through deja dup)
[21:50] <bekks> user239823: You would have to mount your Ubuntu One as a filesystem, I dont know wether that is possible.
[21:51] <t38> apb1963:  GTK, yep
[21:51] <user239823> Thanks for the reply! I checked the duplicity settings, and it mentions something about "backends and their URL format". Does that have anything to do with it?
[21:52] <bekks> user239823: I never used duplicity.
[21:52] <OerHeks> user239823, should be easy & standard >>
[21:52] <apb1963> t38: thanks for all the help fax guy!  lol
[21:52] <OerHeks> user239823, see http://www.howtogeek.com/108869/how-to-back-up-ubuntu-the-easy-way-with-dj-dup/
[21:53] <user239823> OerHeks: Thanks, I'm trying to do it without Deja Dup because I'm using it with Cron.
[21:53] <t38> apb1963:  My pleasure.. Hope it all continues to work
[21:53] <OerHeks> user239823, it has a scheduler build in too.
[21:53] <k1l> user239823: dejadup got an own scheduler
[21:54] <user239823> OerHeks: Is it possible to change the time of schedule though?
[21:55] <OerHeks> user239823, no, that part is poorly implented, daily or weekly
[21:56] <ampw> how do i set macro keys
[21:56] <andreex> hi there. I installed Ubutnu 13 from mini.iso but it's not working. When it reaches the point when it would ask for a password it keeps alternating between a pink screen and a blank one. so until I find a way to fix it I want to boot from the second disk, which has Ubunto 12 LTS. As the GRUB splash screen has both systems listed I want to change the default boot disk for the moment. I've looked in the Internet, bu most sites mention file /boot/menu.lst..
[21:56] <andreex> . unfortunately I don't have this file in /boot. any hint on how to change the default boot disk on this Ubuntu machine?
[21:56] <ampw> i want it to auto type something when i press something
[21:56] <bekks> user239823: If not, it would be pointless, would it? :)
[21:56] <rennardc> list
[21:58] <user239823> OerHeks: I see, in that case, do you know if there is a way to backup with Duplicity to Ubuntu One? I tried "duplicity --help" and it seems to mention online capabilities (gdocs, FTP, webdav), but I'm not sure how to use Ubuntu One with iut.
[21:59] <rennardc> quit
[21:59] <rennardc> quit
[21:59] <rennardc> exit
[21:59] <jmgk> rennardc:  /quit
[21:59] <jmgk> :)
[22:04] <user239823> A better way to phrase the question would be: is there anyway I can find out what URL Deja Dup backups to when I use Ubuntu One as the location?
[22:05] <oliver_> hello, i have a big problem, whenever i suspend, my screen wont turn on after a suspend, this happend after i upgraded to 13.10, had a lot of issues with 13.10 so downgraded to 12.04, but now my suspend doesn't work here too, it did before
[22:06] <alex______> Ok I'm back, with some more questions. I have installed Ubuntu 13.10 onto my USB stick to be used on my mac. i finished the whole tutorial process and restarted my mac and opened ubuntu from my usb stick. Now it seems Ubuntu is opening and operational, but it opens the ubuntu install client and wants me to erase and replace my mac osx with ubuntu...i dont want to do that, if at all possible id like to use ubuntu from my usb stic
[22:06] <wiak> https://github.com/groeck/nct6775/ <- trying to compile that
[22:06] <alex______> to ubuntu
[22:08] <OerHeks> user239823, i can't find a good solution for duplicity.
[22:09] <user239823> OerHeks: Ok, thanks for your time anyway. Regards.
[22:09] <oliver_> alex______: you can see about using ubuntu on usb without installing here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/try-ubuntu-before-you-install
[22:10] <sha1sum> so many underscores.
[22:10] <wiak> make: *** /usr/src/linux-headers-3.8.0-31-generic: No such file or directory. Stop.
[22:10] <wiak> :/
[22:11] <wiak> E: Package 'linux-headers-3.8.0-31-generic' has no installation candidate
[22:11] <wiak> erm
[22:11] <sha1sum> wiak: you probably need linux-headers package
[22:11] <sha1sum> oh wait
[22:11] <sha1sum> nevermind
[22:12] <sha1sum> I suppose that's the issue.
[22:12] <wiak> the module tells me it needs <IP_ADDRESS> but the system only got 3.11.0-12 and 3.5.0-39
[22:12] <ampw> is there a chromium ppa?
 can i run ubuntu applications that i have on cd or dvd while in the "try" mode?
[22:13] <Ubnoobtu> Hey All, I'm back again with some new issues which I think are entirely from me not being thorough enough.
[22:13] <wiak> meybe i should boot into 3.5 :P
[22:13] <wiak> and try again
[22:14] <sha1sum> wiak: probably won't solve the fact that it looks like it's wanting a specific kernel version, which seems creepy to me
[22:14] <erpo> My Ubuntu 12.04 box is stopping at an (initramfs) prompt when I try to boot it up.  I booted from a system rescue USB flash drive and ran fsck on my root filesystem, and it indicated that it replayed the journal. However, this did not solve the problem. Suggestions?
[22:16] <wiak> sha1sum 3.8.0-31-generic is the current running kernel, but the headers are MIA
[22:16] <oliver_> ubuntu 12.04, 12.10, 13.10, iam not able to use suspend function, it just gives me a black screen when i start up after suspend
[22:17] <sha1sum> wiak: did you build your kernel from source by any chance?
[22:18] <sha1sum> wiak: either way, is there any way you can install both the kernel and headers from the same version and boot to it?
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> erpo, Is this with kernel choice at grub?
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> every*
[22:19] <bcgrown> I upgraded to Xubuntu 13.10 and now I can't play multiple audio streams at once.  I could on 12.10 before I upgraded.  How do I make it work again?
[22:20] <erpo> wilee-nilee: This is after GRUB chooses a kernel by itself and boots it.
[22:20] <sha1sum> erpo: can you choose a different one and boot to it?
[22:20] <moris> hi i'm italian
[22:20] <sha1sum> moris: I'm english
[22:21] <sha1sum> nice to meet you
[22:21] <wilee-nilee> erpo, Have you tried any other kernels, if you do not see grub use the shift key to show it at powering on.
[22:21] <sha1sum> :P
[22:21] <erpo> wilee-nilee, sha1sum : I have tried two other, older kernels. It didn't help.
[22:22] <wilee-nilee> erpo, Any history leading to this missing here?
[22:22] <moris> shalsum: hi
[22:22] <erpo> wilee-nilee, sha1sum: I've written up the details at http://pastebin.com/wHqiXRjh
[22:22] <pawe> dcs
[22:22] <pawe> hi
[22:22] <sha1sum> (other than killing your neighbor over the loud music)
[22:23] <sha1sum> erpo: wow. good job :)
[22:24] <erpo> sha1sum: Thanks! If only it had worked, I'd be really pleased with myself. :)
[22:25] <sha1sum> Yeah the mdadm and RAID stuff is past my competency unfortunately :(
[22:25] <dougiel> what is the command to get grub to scan your system for OS installs...
[22:25] <k1l> dougiel: sudo update-grub
[22:25] <dougiel> Kll thanks
[22:25] <rizole> Do I need an antivirus?
[22:26] <dougiel> lol
[22:26] <sha1sum> rizole: probably not.
[22:26] <sha1sum> rizole: but can't hurt.
[22:26] <k1l> !antivirus | rizole
[22:26] <wiak> holy bokey smokes got it fixed
[22:26] <wiak> i was just missing the headers :p
[22:26] <rizole> Thank, I thought as much.
[22:26] <sha1sum> k1l: is there a list of helpful bot triggers anywhere? It seems like I've probably typed things that needn't be typed lol
[22:26] <wiak> had to fish them out of lunchpad :P
[22:27] <Ubnoobtu> I was just about to ask about home media servers. Whats the best one between linux systems?
[22:27] <k1l> sha1sum: i dont know of that list
[22:27] <moppy> Ubnoobtu,   i use xmbc, i dont know which is 'best' but i know that one works
[22:27] <wiak> Ubnoobtu well just use xbmc :P
[22:27] <wiak> or do you mean *server* ? :P
[22:27] <Ubnoobtu> xbmc like sony and playstation?
[22:27] <wiak> samba with windoze computer
[22:27] <wiak> i run linux on file server
[22:28] <wiak> xmbc on win ;)
[22:28] <Ubnoobtu> wiak what is a "server
[22:28] <Ubnoobtu> *server*
[22:28] <sha1sum> Ubnoobtu: what are you serving *to*?
[22:29] <Ubnoobtu> [18:27] <wiak> or do you mean *server* ? :P
[22:29] <SuperFAQ_com_br> Hi
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> sha1sum, There is a trigger list, I can't find it readily, but I have seen it.
[22:29] <deamanx> hey guys i have a q.My screen brightness can only be set via the terminal with "echo 100 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness" is there anyway i can make my hardware button work?
[22:30] <sha1sum> You say "home media server". Are you talking about serving media files *to* something or are you talking about something else?
[22:30] <wylde> sha1sum, http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[22:31] <sha1sum> wylde: nice!
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO> deamanx: you should be able to map the keyboard buttons to scripts with acpid or udev iirc
[22:32] <Ubnoobtu> sha1sum; Well, I want to transfer files from my laptop to the computer I've just gotten running.  both are running "precise". I want the files to be on both, just not 'projected'
[22:32] <sleepie^> Is there a proprietary driver for the Intel i3 on-dye GPU?
[22:33] <hitsujiTMO> deamanx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaptopSpecialKeys
[22:33] <sha1sum> Ubnoobtu: probably setting up NFS is the best
[22:34] <deamanx> Ok thx hitsujiTMO, Is there a reason it doesnt work with neither software or hardware?
[22:34] <wiak> sha1sum nah, just use SMB, NFS is a mess on windoze
[22:35] <sha1sum> wiak: he's got two Ubuntu machines.
[22:35] <wiak> aah
[22:35] <sha1sum> "he"
[22:35] <hitsujiTMO> deamanx: the only reason why it wont work by default would that its sending a non standard signal
[22:35] <sha1sum> (assumption, sorry)
[22:35] <sleepie^> Can linux-image-extra be removed? What are the extra modues?
[22:35] <wiak> drivers i bet
[22:35] <wiak> :P
[22:35] <wiak> frameworks, apis too i think and some extra?
[22:35] <bekks> wiak: No.
[22:36] <bekks> wiak: Just drivers.
[22:36] <hitsujiTMO> sleepie^: thats your driver modules, i.e. sound, wifi, ehternet ... anything not build into the kernel
[22:36] <deamanx> "video DD02 00000087 00000000 video DD02 00000086 00000000" is what i get from acpi_listen hitsujiTMO
[22:36] <deamanx> and it does seem to trigger the software
[22:36] <sleepie^> hitsujiTMO: Ohhh, thank you.
[22:37] <Ubnoobtu> Hey, Thanks sha1sum, I 'm reading in to it now. Would you say it is difficult?
[22:37] <deamanx> the brighnessbar changes but nothing happens
[22:39] <hitsujiTMO> deamanx: then you just need to setup events for both buttons in the form of: event=video DD02 00000087      yadadada
[22:40] <deamanx> ok Thx!!
[22:47] <zerus> привет )
[22:47] <zerus> есть русские?
[22:47] <k1l> !ru | zerus
[22:49] <Die_Nadal> Is there a way to encrypt a folder? Ubuntu 13.10
[22:49] <c5RzK4> no way uninstall
[22:49] <hitsujiTMO> !encryption | Die_Nadal
[22:50] <Die_Nadal> Thank you.
[22:50] <javanic> hey.. does anyone know the command to use in terminal to remove old files to free up space? I'm trying to download an update and don't have the space
[22:50] <hitsujiTMO> javanic: apt-get clean
[22:50] <c5RzK4> welcome
[22:50] <javanic> hitsujiTMO,  that easy? thanks so much :)
[22:51] <c5RzK4> Die_Nadal, google will help you a lot
[22:52] <hitsujiTMO> javanic: its will clean your apt-cache, should be a lot of old .debs there, you should also look into purging old kernels and kernel headers
[22:52] <k1l> !google | c5RzK4
[22:52] <javanic> hitsujiTMO, how do i go about doing all that?
[22:52] <Die_Nadal> This means that my home directory is encrypted right ? (.Private -> /home/.ecryptfs/user/.Private)
[22:53] <Die_Nadal> or just .Private ?
[22:54] <javanic> hitsujiTMO,  when i try the apt-get clean it asks me for the password, then doesn't do anything.. i don't get it lol
[22:55] <k1l> javanic: no output does mean "no error"
[22:55] <SchrodingersScat> Die_Nadal: weird, I have an ecryptfs Private directory, I don't have a .Private folder in my /home/user/.ecryptfs though
[22:56] <alexw> is there a quick way to change the ubuntu mirror?
[22:56] <javanic> k1l, I tried to do the update and it still said that I don't have enough disc space..
[22:56] <k1l> javanic: do the "apt-get autoremove" too
[22:56] <wilee-nilee> alexw, yes in software sources
[22:56] <c5RzK4> javanic, try autoremove
[22:56] <javanic> k1l,  i'll try that now..
[22:56] <alexw> wilee-nilee non gui
[22:56] <k1l> javanic: after that please show a "df -h"
[22:56] <k1l> (in a pastebin
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> alexw, nano the sources.list probably and change it
[22:57] <sha1sum> nano? ew.
[22:57] <sha1sum> ;)
[22:58] <k1l> alexw: you can change to the main servers in the the system settings > upgrades and software
[22:58] <okay19> How do you set the mount point of the EFI system partition in the installer?
[22:58] <javanic> javanic@javanic-basment:~$ df -h
[22:58] <javanic> Filesystem               Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[22:58] <javanic> /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root  228G   29G  187G  14% /
[22:58] <javanic> none                     4.0K     0  4.0K   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
[22:58] <javanic> udev                     936M  4.0K  936M   1% /dev
[22:58] <FloodBot1> javanic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:58] <javanic> tmpfs                    189M  1.1M  188M   1% /run
[22:58] <sha1sum> whoops.
[22:58] <k1l> javanic: please put that into a pastebin (see the bots message)
[22:59] <sha1sum> unless we're missing something, how big is this update?!
[22:59] <sha1sum> 187G available... doubt it's large enough
[22:59] <javanic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6315228/
[22:59] <hitsujiTMO> javanic: can you tell me the output of: uname -r         and dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image                 and dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-header
[23:00] <Die_Nadal> schrodingersscat do you run ubuntu gnome 13.10 ?
[23:00] <javanic> hitsujiTMO, I managed to get it to update with the "autoremove". Honestly I'm not too sure what you are asking me to do..
[23:00] <javanic> k1l, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6315228/
[23:00] <k1l> javanic: since / is big ennough but /boot is an extra partition which is quite small see if you can remove old kernel-packages
[23:01] <sha1sum> ohhhh snap it's a kernel update probably
[23:01] <sha1sum> makes sense
[23:01] <hitsujiTMO> javanic: in the terminal type these 2 commands and paste the output with pastebinit:   uname -r      dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image
[23:01] <sha1sum> was missing something :D
[23:03] <wiak> lets prey my server wont go down when i encode now
[23:04] <okay19> Do I need to set the mount point for an existing EFI system partition when installing?
[23:05] <Die_Nadal> So does anyone have a folder structure like this? in Ubuntu Gnome 13.10  (.Private -> /home/.ecryptfs/user/.Private)
[23:05] <javanic> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6315241/ and yes I'm aware basement is spelled wrong lol not sure how to change it
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> okay19:  useing the custom partioning layout method? aka 'somthing else' ?
[23:06] <hitsujiTMO> javanic: you can change basement in /etc/hostname
[23:06] <parduse> whats my best application option to use ubuntu server in a virtual pc.Virtualbox from Oraccle or wmware player from windoz3?
[23:07] <parduse> win 7 will be the host
[23:07] <hitsujiTMO> javanic: run this: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.5.0-27-generic linux-image-3.8.0-21-generic linux-image-3.8.0-22-generic linux-image-3.8.0-23-generic linux-image-3.8.0-25-generic linux-image-3.8.0-26-generic linux-image-3.8.0-30-generic
[23:07] <k1l> javanic: yoou can remove the old "linux-image-..." and "linux-header-..." packages. but keep at least one kernel installed :)
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> more '/boot is full how to i clean it out' questions? ;)
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> okay19:  chat in the channel. most of us ignore pm's
[23:08] <okay19> Ok
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> okay19:  and from that ive read of the efi install wiki page  you mount that partion to /boot/efi or somthing like that.
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> !uefi
[23:09] <hitsujiTMO> parduse: either should be just as good
[23:09] <javanic> hitsujiTMO, running it now
[23:09] <okay19> Dr_Willis: I saw that, but the partition's type is labeled "EFI boot partition" in the list and there is no option to set the mount point.
[23:09] <parduse> ty Dr_Willis & hitsujiTMO
[23:09] <okay19> Dr_Willis: So do I just leave it and install?
[23:09] <erpo> If anyone else is having the same problem, the solution was to add the kernel option bootdegraded=yes in GRUB. Apparently one of my disks was dying in a way that *didn't* show up in /proc/mdstat even after running a check.
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> okay19:  no idea then. I have never used a uefi system.  from what i recall reading its a fat32 partion and mounted to /boot/uefi
[23:10] <okay19> Ah, ok.
[23:10] <hitsujiTMO> okay19: what exactly are you trying to do?
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> okay19:  go for it. ;)
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> install to a uefi system . using custome partioning.
[23:11] <javanic> hitsujiTMO, ok.. it's done. do i need to check anything to make sure it's done what it needs to? or should it be assumed that all is good now?
[23:12] <hitsujiTMO> okay19: yeah, if you want to reformat the efi partition, it must be marked as ef00 (with gdisk or cgdisk) and you mount that to /boot/efi as dr_willis said
[23:12] <Anonynimity> how would I find out the computer names connected to my network and their ip addresses via terminal?
[23:12] <parduse> Anonynimity tried users already?
[23:12] <hitsujiTMO> javanic: have a look at: df -h
[23:13] <Anonynimity> I don't know what that is parduse...
[23:13] <k1l> Die_Nadal: its encryptfs encrypted home. you did choose that on install
[23:13] <Anonynimity> I'm looking for other device names connected to the network with their ip addresses.
[23:13] <parduse> nv that was a command for logged in users which you arent askink about
[23:13] <javanic> hitsujiTMO,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6315278/
[23:14] <jcrza> So I found a step-by-step page to install a PXE server that enables you to pick from multiple distros on the client computer, but is there something that makes it a bit easier?
[23:14] <hitsujiTMO> javanic: sweet, you've a crapton of space in /boot again. remember to clean it out after every few dist-upgrades
[23:14] <javanic> hitsujiTMO, by just using the "autoremove"?
[23:15] <jcrza> Oop, answered my own question. ERPXE looks like what I need
[23:16] <hitsujiTMO> javanic: by looking at what your current kernel is with: uname -r      and remove any kernels you see that are older than that listed as installed in: dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image
[23:17] <javanic> hitsujiTMO, ok, so use the same "apt-get purge" with whatever isn't the current kernel?
[23:18] <hitsujiTMO> javanic: not whatever isn't just whatever is older than the kernel .. you dont want to purge newer kernels
[23:18] <okay19> Does the installer set the EFI boot partition's mount point automatically?
[23:18] <hitsujiTMO> okay19: yes it does if you let ubuntu do the partitioning
[23:19] <okay19> hitsujiTMO: What if you do it yourself, or 'something else'?
[23:19] <javanic> hitsujiTMO, ok cool. thanks for the help! how do i learn how to do all this myself? is there any good resources that i can read up on?
[23:20] <hitsujiTMO> okay19: what you can do is let ubuntu do it, then go back and edit what it does
[23:20] <hitsujiTMO> javanic: google is the best resource to be honest. wel for me anyway
[23:20] <okay19> hitsujiTMO: The problem is that the installer isn't detecting windows 8 and I'm trying a dual boot here
[23:21] <javanic> hitsujiTMO, ok, thanks again.. much appreciated! :)
[23:24] <Die_Nadal> k1l yes I thought I had but wanted to know if it worked, or at least how to confirm it.
[23:28] <hitsujiTMO> okay19: its almost impossible for the installer not to pick up windows since it just needs to see the efi boot manager to see what operating systems you've installed. have you made room for the ubuntu install manually?
[23:30] <liuguobing> REGISTER lgb634335272<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:31] <liuguobing> exit
[23:33] <prx> Hey
[23:35] <prx> I'm trying to download some packages, and i get this weird error message: Failed to fetch http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/distribute/python-setuptools_0.6.34-0ubuntu1_all.deb  Could not connect to <IP_ADDRESS>:3128 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111: Connection refused)
[23:36] <prx> seems like a proxy to me, but i'm not using any proxy (<IP_ADDRESS>:3128)
[23:36] <odium> I did some magic to get lighttp to incorporate libx264 streaming libraries, but now ssl won't work, can someone set me on the right path to get them both working?
[23:36] <hitsujiTMO> prx: check your apt.conf to see if theres a proxy there
[23:39] <prx> how did it get there? :)
[23:40] <hitsujiTMO> prx: did you at any stage put in the proxy?
[23:40] <prx> since its the only thing on that file, should i just make it blank?
[23:40] <prx> i never put a proxy on apt-get specifically, only for the whole network
[23:40] <Richhh> trying to install ubuntu for dual booting with xp, checksum on iso ok, no disc defects, no ram problems, installation freezes on ubuntu . . . . . screen (whether i try to fully install or try first)
[23:41] <hitsujiTMO> prx: you should be able to safely clear it. afaik, that gets populated if you speficy a proxy during the installation install
[23:41] <Richhh> (12.04 32bit)
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> Richhh: what graphics card do you have?
[23:42] <prx> hitsujiTMO, i cleared the file but it still tries to use it, any idea how to refresh?
[23:43] <Richhh> hitsujiTMO not sure, checking...
[23:43] <Richhh> pretty sure its onboard
[23:43] <hitsujiTMO> prx, check in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ too incase there's more than one entry
[23:44] <hitsujiTMO> Richhh: first try booting with the kernel option: nomodeset
[23:45] <hitsujiTMO> Richhh: if that doesn't work remove the 'quiet' and 'splash' options and you should see the dmesg output at the time of the crash
[23:45] <ampw> anyone have a server
[23:45] <hitsujiTMO> !anyone | ampw
[23:45] <ampw> hitsujiTMO: sorry wrong chat*
[23:45] <prx> hitsujiTMO, no, nothing on there.
[23:46] <bibi346> hi, in web-development, instead of sending an email when the user is waiting for the http response, some people delegate this task to some backend worker, so taht the response can be sent asap, do you know how it is called? Is there a name for this programming technique?
[23:46] <hitsujiTMO> prx: try a reboot, have you actually used that proxy before?
[23:46] <prx> i cant really tell, lets hope i did :)
[23:46] <hitsujiTMO> bibi346: reverse proxy
[23:47] <prx> i'll reboot, thanks :)
[23:47] <hitsujiTMO> bibi346: crap never read your question fully...
[23:48] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | delegation is the answer and this is not the place to be asking such a question. try a programming channel
[23:49] <Richhh> ok hitsujiTMO , will try now, gfx card is GeForce 6200SE TurboCache
[23:50] <paulo> boa noite
[23:50] <paulo> ??
[23:51] <bob_> i never thought i'd say it
[23:52] <bob_> but unity doesnt suck anymore
[23:52] <jmgk> hah bob_ :d
[23:53] <prx> ok thats weird, rebooting didnt work
[23:53] <prx> and apt.conf is empty...
[23:54] <hitsujiTMO> prx: you getting the error on: apt-get update?
[23:54] <prx> yep.
[23:54] <prx> any apt-get command thats trying to fetch files
[23:55] <hitsujiTMO> prx: did you ever knowingly use that proxy before?
[23:55] <prx> i cant remember, i have been using quite alot at some point.
[23:56] <Richhh> hitsujiTMO with nomodeset i just got Starting crash report submission daemon
[23:58] <hitsujiTMO> Richhh: remove the quiet and splash params so. (and leave off nomodeset). you should get some indication of what your underlying problem is from that.
[23:58] <prx> found the ip on etc/environment
[23:58] <prx> whats that?
[23:59] <hitsujiTMO> prx: set as an environment var? that's bizarre
[23:59] <Richhh> it says . . . . * Starting crash report submission daemon      [OK]  but no response to enter/space/y/o/k
[23:59] <Richhh> ok ill do that
[23:59] <prx> http_proxy="http://<IP_ADDRESS>:3128/


[00:02] <_mup_> ensemble/trunk r268 committed by<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:02] <_mup_> merge auto-peer [r=fwereade,niemeyer][f=803855]
[00:02] <_mup_> ensemble deploy automatically adds peer relations for deployed formulas.
[00:09] <hazmat> adam_g, x3 maybe ;-)
[00:10] <adam_g> hazmat: im not totally sure that third one does.. but it might be related to something i havne't complained about yet :P
[00:11] <hazmat> adam_g, ;-) cool its for things with peer relations ala cassandra/mongodb.. its pretty minor
[00:12] <adam_g> its the a lp bug that describes it?
[00:13] <adam_g> er, is there a..
[00:13] <adam_g> ive found there is a lack of relations being listed in 'ensemble status' for a service unit that relates to more than one peer for a given interface
[00:14] <adam_g> ie, i have a mysql server that relates to many clients who share the same database. yet ensemble only reports the last added relation. i assume this is expected, but it would be nice to see all units its related to
[00:18] <hazmat> bug 80385
[00:18] <_mup_> Bug #80385: Could save some space by omitting /boot/vmlinuz from live filesystem <Ubuntu CD Images:Invalid> <livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu):Fix Released> <ubiquity (Ubuntu):Fix Released by cjwatson> <Baltix:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/80385 >
[00:18] <hazmat> bug 803855
[00:18] <_mup_> Bug #803855: deploy should add peer relations automatically <Ensemble:In Progress by hazmat> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/803855 >
[00:25] <_mup_> Bug #807792 was filed: Formulas should be able to specify packages & ppas in metadata <Ensemble:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/807792 >
[00:26] <_mup_> Bug #807794 was filed: Ensemble should have cli plugins <Ensemble:New for hazmat> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/807794 >