[08:33] <marc74> what is wrong with giving me lfl for what i am trying to do?
[08:33] <ayen> hi again :)
[08:33] <danko123456> should I just look for a hardware reason?
[08:33] <danko123456> i checked the cables I thinks.
[08:33] <marc74> BASH
[08:33] <danko123456> nos.
[08:33] <danko123456> no s
[08:33] <confused_in_ct> will try
[08:33] <mpq> all that and it still doesn't work right
[08:33] <mpq> the sound is delayed
[08:33] <danko123456> what page?
[08:34] <crimsun> sm22: no, no need. First tell me how your sound card is connected.
[08:34] <Quinn_Storm> mpq: that's a symptom of using something like esd
[08:34] <mpq> how do I turn it off?
[08:34] <marc74> i used rpm and alien
[08:34] <sm22> it is connected to the mother board
[08:34] <marc74> what next?
[08:34] <marc74> someone help me
[08:34] <sm22> its a slot in the background
[08:34] <crimsun> danko123456: ah, so something's muted.
[08:35] <crimsun> danko123456: please paste the output of amixer onto http://pastebin.com
[08:35] <sm22> i mean in the back of the pu
[08:35] <sm22> *cpu
[08:35] <marc74> what is this the first time it has been done?
[08:35] <crimsun> sm22: k, so it's pci
[08:35] <crimsun> sm22: what are the contents of /proc/asound/cards ?
[08:35] <bodaciousb> anyone know where i can find linux native games??? good ones like ut4 is, americas army.... so on
[08:35] <sm22> whats that
[08:35] <mpq> argh
[08:35] <crimsun> sm22: open a terminal and type, cat /proc/asound/cards
[08:36] <rixth> Whats the tool to use to burn an Ubuntu ISO in XP without getting the BSDUtils error? I never had to put up with shit likes this from Debian...
[08:36] <mpq> sound in flash didn't work
[08:36] <mpq> someone gave me a fix
[08:36] <crimsun> sm22: then paste the contents onto http://pastebin.com or into #flood
[08:36] <mpq> and now the sound is more fucked up
[08:36] <crimsun> mpq: using esd or alsa, and with firefox?
[08:36] <marc74> i thought this was ubuntu
[08:36] <sm22> no such file or directory
[08:36] <mpq> I think it was esd
[08:36] <danko123456> crimsun: thanks http://pastebin.com/277418
[08:36] <mpq> and firefox
[08:36] <mpq> all the sound in flash is delayed now
[08:36] <marc74> aren't there other ubuntu users that installed jre before?
[08:36] <crimsun> mpq: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 /usr/lib/libesd.so.1
[08:36] <mpq> I did that
[08:36] <danko123456> marc
[08:36] <mpq> that's what fucked it up
[08:37] <danko123456> marc74: whats up, JRE not working?
[08:37] <crimsun> mpq: are you using an .asoundrc?
[08:37] <crimsun> mpq: if so, get rid of it
[08:37] <marc74> if not i'm gonna go to sleep and not ask anymore
[08:37] <mpq> I don't know what that is
[08:37] <marc74> JRE = java realtime environment
[08:37] <crimsun> mpq: well if you're sure that's what caused the problem, revert your change
[08:37] <sm22> ughh
[08:37] <danko123456> crimsun: thats a long output...
[08:37] <crimsun> danko123456: yes, sec
[08:38] <marc74> danko123456, i
[08:38] <danko123456> marc74: I know, is it not working?
[08:38] <mpq> how do I do that?
[08:38] <crimsun> sm22: ok, then paste the output of lsmod
[08:38] <crimsun> sm22: onto http://pastebin.com
[08:38] <marc74> danko123456, sorry, i'm stuck
[08:38] <danko123456> marc74: thats fine...
[08:38] <crimsun> mpq: erase the libesd.so.1 symlink
[08:38] <marc74> danko123456, what do i do after running alien?
[08:38] <danko123456> for which?
[08:38] <danko123456> what are you installing, just a JRe?
[08:39] <marc74> just basic java runtime environment
[08:39] <crimsun> danko123456: your PCM is muted.
[08:39] <danko123456> on a pc, marc?
[08:39] <sm22> what does that site do crimsun
[08:39] <marc74> i'm a noob
[08:39] <danko123456> http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[08:39] <marc74> yes running ubuntu
[08:39] <danko123456> sm22: IT LETS you paste a long message
[08:39] <danko123456> so you do not overcrowd the chatroom.
[08:40] <mpq> it won't let me delete it
[08:40] <danko123456> crimsun: what caused that? what did I do?
[08:40] <crimsun> mpq: with sudo.
[08:40] <mpq> I don't know how to delete in the terminal
[08:40] <crimsun> danko123456: no idea, but unmuting it should fix that.
[08:40] <marc74> i have a serious problem here
[08:40] <marc74> i've followed the directions
[08:40] <danko123456> marc74: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[08:40] <danko123456> that will tell you how to install it, scratch the previous what you were doing.
[08:40] <marc74> scroll up; danko
[08:41] <danko123456> all those directions?
[08:41] <marc74> SERIOUS PROBLEM here
[08:41] <danko123456> It does install a JRE, to the best of my knowledge...
[08:41] <pixil9> ?? jre
[08:41] <uhelper> jre: To simply enable java in firefox see - http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre -OR- If you wish to install java as a package please download the 'java-package' through synaptic or apt-get. Proceed by downloading the JRE linux bin from http://java.sun.com/ (either 1.4.2 or newer). Use the command 'make-jpkg linux1.4.2.bin' as an example. Then install with 'dpkg -i linux1.4.2.deb'
[08:41] <marc74> maybe i should reformat and reiinstall linux
[08:41] <sm22> ok i pasted it
[08:41] <sm22> yo crimsun
[08:42] <sm22> i think im just gonna reinstall ubuntu
[08:42] <crimsun> sm22: there's no need to do that.
[08:42] <danko123456> marc74: nothing in your previous sentences gives me more info, sorry...
[08:42] <sm22> yeah but its a sure way isnt it
[08:42] <danko123456> crimsun: you dont know what command I might have used to mute it? then how do I unmute it?
[08:42] <crimsun> sm22: no, it's not a sure way.
[08:42] <marc74> danko123456, i did rpm and alien,, what next?
[08:42] <danko123456> why did you do that?
[08:42] <crimsun> danko123456: you might have muted it accidentally using some mixer program
[08:43] <marc74> danko123456, r\pm*
[08:43] <crimsun> danko123456: you can use any mixer program to unmute PCM
[08:43] <danko123456> strange...
[08:43] <crimsun> I prefer alsamixer myself, but that's just me
[08:43] <sm22> soo whats the next step crimsun
[08:43] <danko123456> in alsamixer...my PCM is at 77
[08:44] <crimsun> danko123456: but it's muted. You need to press 'm' so the MM disappears.
[08:44] <danko123456> marc74: no RPMs in those instructions...
[08:44] <crimsun> sm22: you said your multimedia audio card doesn't appear in lspci?
[08:45] <sm22> yeah
[08:45] <sm22> but thats cuz i just put it in
[08:45] <mpq> and now there's no sound in flash
[08:45] <danko123456> thanks much, Crimsun...I knew I could count on you:) strange that I muted it...I never knew the m command...
[08:45] <danko123456> marc74: have you tried those instructions: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre ???
[08:45] <simonc> I just installed ubuntu but I
[08:46] <crimsun> mpq: are you using esd?
[08:46] <simonc> 'm having lots of trouble getting it to start up
[08:46] <mpq> I don't know
[08:46] <crimsun> sm22: "just" meaning...?
[08:46] <simonc> anyone care to help?
[08:46] <mpq> I wish I wasn't
[08:46] <danko123456> simonc: start what up?
[08:46] <mpq> all it does is screw stuff up
[08:46] <crimsun> mpq: so don't use esd if it annoys you
[08:46] <marc74> danko123456, yes
[08:46] <sm22> crimsun: ?
[08:46] <mpq> I don't know how not to use it
[08:46] <crimsun> mpq: tell gstreamer-properties to use alsa for the output sink
[08:46] <fitheach> simonc, may be you just tell us, what problems you have. :)
[08:46] <marc74> danko123456, i am at a loss
[08:46] <danko123456> and there is no alien there, and no RPM in there...
[08:46] <crimsun> mpq: then tell each audio application to use alsa
[08:46] <simonc> ok well it starts to load up, runs initrd
[08:46] <simonc> then prints out savedefault
[08:47] <simonc> and boot
[08:47] <crimsun> sm22: what do you mean by "just"?
[08:47] <mpq> I have no clue how to do that
[08:47] <danko123456> so, the startup dont work?
[08:47] <crimsun> mpq: I just told you...
[08:47] <simonc> then it just hangs there with a blinking underscore
[08:47] <mpq> I don't know how
[08:47] <danko123456> gstreamer-properties
[08:47] <crimsun> mpq: System>Preferences>MultiMedia Systems Selector>Default Audio Sink>ALSA
[08:47] <sm22> crimsun: i just put the soundcard in...after i installed ubuntu
[08:47] <simonc> if you leave it for about an hour and a half it will eventually start up again and load into ubuntu
[08:47] <simonc> any idea what's going on?
[08:47] <danko123456> mpq: gstreamer-properties
[08:47] <danko123456> in a terminal.
[08:47] <crimsun> mpq: then you'll need to configure each audio program to use ALSA instead of ESD
[08:47] <bodaciousb> hey guys, i cant remember..... i have amreica's army in a .run file, how do i install it?
[08:48] <sm22> crimsun: before i had an on board soundcard but it didnt seem to work
[08:48] <fitheach> simonc, not really...
[08:48] <crimsun> sm22: but you've rebooted into Ubuntu after you installed the sb, correct?
[08:48] <sm22> yes
[08:48] <simonc> crap
[08:48] <danko123456> which entry does it hang at?
[08:48] <rixth> bodaciousb, chmod a+x *file* ./*file*
[08:48] <danko123456> simonc:
[08:48] <crimsun> sm22: ok, so paste the output of lspci there, too
[08:48] <sm22> i did
[08:48] <danko123456> chmod a+x *file*&&./*file*
[08:48] <sm22> and it didnt detect anything
[08:49] <crimsun> sm22: you did? I only see your lsmod paste.
[08:49] <danko123456> simonc`which entry does it hang on?
[08:49] <simonc> right after initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.10-5-386 [Linux- blablabla]  savedefault boot <it hangs here>
[08:49] <bodaciousb> rixth, thank you
[08:49] <mpq> I don't know how to change sound settings
[08:49] <mpq> I did that gstreamer thing but it didn't work
[08:49] <danko123456> not at synchronizing clock to ntp....
[08:49] <crimsun> mpq: did you pkill esd?
[08:49] <tbasten> dazzed, you there dude
[08:49] <mpq> yes
[08:49] <sm22> crimsun: ok i put it there
[08:50] <mpq> it still isn't working
[08:50] <danko123456> mpq: you wrote gstreamer-properties in a terminal.?
[08:50] <crimsun> mpq: how are you testing?
[08:50] <mpq> yes
[08:50] <mpq> crimsun: a flash game
[08:50] <crimsun> sm22: you don't appear to have allocated an irq to the sound card(s)
[08:50] <sm22> crimsun: what does mean
[08:50] <sm22> *that mean
[08:51] <crimsun> sm22: that means you need to tweak settings in bios
[08:51] <sm22> how
[08:51] <FeJaOr> how can I configure well my Microsoft Internet Keyboard? some of the keys don't match with the display....
[08:51] <crimsun> sm22: in bios (when you reboot), make sure the audio cards (or their pci slots, rather) are given irqs
[08:51] <sm22> and how do i do that
[08:52] <sm22> oh wait
[08:52] <sm22> i think i know what you mean
[08:52] <sm22> the bios when you have to push f11 or something
[08:52] <danko123456> del, usually.
[08:52] <wgandhi> how do i configure middle mouse button click on the desktop?
[08:52] <danko123456> at startup...
[08:52] <FeJaOr> how can I configure well my Microsoft Internet Keyboard? some of the keys don't match with the display....
[08:52] <bodaciousb> how od install a .runf ile? the other guy gave me bad info
[08:53] <sm22> ok im rebooting
[08:54] <danko123456> .runf?
[08:54] <Levander> FeJaOr: try, System -> Keyboard -> Layouts -> Keyboard Model
[08:54] <revelater> how hard is it to get a usb drive to work in ubuntu? i am thinking of getting one...
[08:54] <pablo928> FeJaOr, system/preferences/keyboard shortcuts
[08:54] <revelater> pen drive thingys
[08:55] <abarbaccia> hey guys - anybody here use beagle
[08:55] <Levander> FeJaOr: Microst Internet Keyboard is one of the options in that dialog
[08:55] <revelater> i killed a beagle once
[08:55] <revelater> does that count
[08:55] <FeJaOr> the problem is that my microsoft internet keyboard is in spanish....
[08:55] <revelater> ?
[08:55] <danko123456> revelater: usually easy...
[08:55] <revelater> >|
[08:56] <revelater> do i just have to plug it in and it is detected or what?
[08:56] <mpq> oh
[08:56] <mpq> it's working
[08:56] <danko123456> usually, I would think
[08:56] <danko123456> heh
[08:56] <danko123456> he left...
[08:56] <revelater> that isn't reassuring me very much
[08:56] <Levander> FeJaOr: that's a problem
[08:56] <danko123456> revelater: you know...
[08:56] <Levander> FeJaOr: you don't wnat to change the language that you view on the screen also?
[08:56] <FeJaOr> and I don't have a correct layout for this type of keyboard
[08:56] <revelater> no i don't
[08:56] <danko123456> I just bought a nikon camera...
[08:57] <revelater> thats why i am here :P
[08:57] <danko123456> and, PNP it works.
[08:57] <FeJaOr> I have the language changed too
[08:57] <danko123456> A brand new model, too.
[08:57] <FeJaOr> but still....
[08:57] <rixth> When I try to install Ubuntu, I get a DeBootstrap error. It's missing BSD utils. I've downloaded the ISO twice from two different mirrors.   It's missing BSD utils. I've downloaded the ISO twice from two different mirrors. What the hell do I do?
[08:58] <FeJaOr> yes...
[08:58] <revelater> danko123456: not sure, but it should be easy then?
[08:58] <danko123456> gftp is a client only, right?
[08:58] <rixth> I've tried buring it as RAW-DAO (I only have acces to Xp right now..)
[08:58] <bob2> rixth: have you checked the md5sum?
[08:59] <revelater> does anyone here have a portable usb drive that works?
[08:59] <danko123456> yeah, I mean, it is a USB drive inside the camera...and a USB key is less sophisticated than a camera...
[08:59] <crimsun> revelater: yes
[08:59] <bob2> revelater: almost all of them should work
[08:59] <marc74> my error is that JRE is not package
[08:59] <undre61> I want someone from a M$ box to d/l from me would there be any imediate problems
[08:59] <revelater> anything special i should know first (incantations, fasting, burning of incense) or the like
[08:59] <revelater> ?
[08:59] <danko123456> marc74: what do you mean it is not a package?
[09:00] <danko123456> its a .bin?
[09:00] <crimsun> revelater: what's not functional?
[09:00] <abarbaccia> zerokarmaleft, i have a question - can i enable email scanning of thunderbird?
[09:00] <FeJaOr> but still having the same problem with the keys
[09:00] <bob2> revelater: just make sure it's usb-storage
[09:00] <abarbaccia> because i've really grown to like thunderbird in the past few weeks and don't really feel like switching back to evolution
[09:00] <FeJaOr> and theyre not so much keys, they are like at max 10 of them
[09:00] <marc74> probaly  danko123456 is it>
[09:00] <revelater> crimsun, just wondering if there is some long and complicated mounting process to get one working, i am planning on getting one
[09:00] <danko123456> I dont know, its on your computer.
[09:00] <rixth> God dammit. #ubuntu is worthless, worse than #debian.
[09:00] <danko123456> revelater: no, should not be.
[09:00] <marc74> danko123456, what do i have to do?
[09:00] <bob2> revelater: plug it in and gnome-volume-manager should Just Work
[09:01] <danko123456> bob2: rixth: have you checked the md5sum?
[09:01] <revelater> bob2 i don't use gnome
[09:01] <danko123456> did you answer that?
[09:01] <bob2> revelater: what do you use then?
[09:01] <revelater> the little FB
[09:01] <marc74> java has a copyright
[09:01] <danko123456> marc74: please go to the folder where the file is, and, type in ls, in a terminal all this.
[09:01] <pablo928> revelater:i use a nikon 3200 , it's detected as a hard drive
[09:01] <zerokarmaleft> abarbaccia, beagled should have a switch to enable mail indexing for thunderbird...no guarantees on if the backend is complete though, i don't use thunderbird
[09:02] <revelater> bob2, fluxbox
[09:02] <bcowan> there a known problem with the install breaking on gthumb?
[09:02] <danko123456> tell me what folder it is too, and what the exact name of the file is.
[09:02] <da_bon_bon> rixth: md5sum it ?
[09:02] <revelater> gnome was using up too much ram and crashing to often for my taste
[09:02] <marc74> danko123456, i give up
[09:02] <revelater> and doesn't look cool enough either :P
[09:03] <danko123456> dude, you never tried...relax, get a cup of hot chocolate, and come tell me what folder, and file name it is.
[09:03] <marc74> danko123456 I have it
[09:03] <danko123456> thanks.
[09:03] <da_bon_bon> rixth: wait for shipit ?
[09:03] <da_bon_bon> rixth: try the cds on a friends machine ?
[09:03] <bob2> revelater: then you will need to do it manually
[09:03] <bob2> revelater: or at least run gnome-volume-manager
[09:03] <revelater> :P
[09:03] <revelater> guess i could do that
[09:03] <marc74> is it a secret or something?
[09:03] <revelater> how hard would it be to do it manually?
[09:03] <abarbaccia> zerokarmaleft, what do you mean a "switch"
[09:04] <danko123456> a command would be needed, revelater
[09:04] <bob2> revelater: just run the command somewhere
[09:04] <danko123456> whats a secret, Marc?
[09:04] <marc74> WHAT DO I DO AFTER I USED RPM AND ALIEN?
[09:04] <bob2> marc74: please stop it
[09:04] <revelater> i mean what point would i mount for a usb drive?
[09:04] <bob2> marc74: people will not help you if you're going to continue to be annoying
[09:04] <daniels> marc74: please calm down.
[09:04] <bob2> marc74: are you following the web page I gave you?
[09:04] <danko123456> he never tried, it seems.
[09:05] <marc74> sorry
[09:05] <danko123456> eek, a spy...
[09:05] <danko123456> :)
[09:05] <revelater> a spy?!?
[09:05] <revelater> YOUUSHHH
[09:05] <bcowan> whats short read in buffer_copy error?
[09:06] <bob2> bcowan: when reading a CD?
[09:06] <bcowan> no
[09:06] <danko123456><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:06] <bob2> bcowan: when doing...
[09:06] <bcowan> during dpkg --unpack
[09:06] <karsten> AMD64 port:  is OpenOffice.org ported yet?  Looks like Debian's Not Yet There.
[09:06] <bob2> bcowan: the package is corrupt
[09:06] <IIIEars> bcowans - k3b?
[09:06] <bob2> karsten: the amd64 port uses the 32-bit i386 openoffice
[09:06] <IIIEars> ah never mind
[09:06] <bcowan> no gthumb
[09:06] <bob2> karsten: the problem is that upstream is Not Yet There
[09:07] <karsten> ...and does Ubuntu AMD64 install an ia32 chroot?
[09:07] <bob2> bcowan: are you installing from a CD?
[09:07] <karsten> bob2: Dig.
[09:07] <bob2> karsten: no
[09:07] <stuNNed> bob2: is ntfsresize app ship with hoary?
[09:07] <karsten> bob2: https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id274293
[09:07] <bob2> stuNNed: it's in the installer
[09:07] <bcowan> bob2: I already installed but it had errors
[09:07] <karsten> bob2: Claim is that AMD64 is pure, ia32 needs chroot env.
[09:07] <revelater> g2g, cya
[09:07] <stuNNed> bob2: what's the rules?  defrag the ntfs partition before start the installer is all?
[09:08] <da_bon_bon> daniels: he quit
[09:08] <bcowan> guess I'll wipe and try again
[09:08] <bob2> karsten: the Debian and Ubuntu amd64 ports will run i386 binaries, but dpkg has no support for installing 32-bit libraries on an amd64 machine
[09:08] <danko123456> who quit?
[09:08] <karsten> bob2: OK...
[09:08] <bob2> karsten: ia32-libs includes a bunch of basic libs you need
[09:08] <karsten> bob2: That contradicts Debian docs:  The current amd64 port of debian is a pure 64bit port. This means you can't run binary only programs which are compiled for IA32 or applications which haven't been ported to AMD64 yet
[09:08] <da_bon_bon> hey, i just got ubuntu live cd. the hibernate function - is it of any use on a live cd ?
[09:08] <danko123456> da_bon_bon: who quit?
[09:08] <bob2> karsten: so some 32-bit stuff will run, but more compilcated things will need a chroot
[09:09] <karsten> bob2: Dig.
[09:09] <bob2> karsten: the page is simplifying things.
[09:09] <bob2> danko123456: I doubt it
[09:09] <karsten> bob2: IRC is _so_ much more complete ;-)
[09:09] <bob2> stuNNed: I'm not sure, sorry, I've never used it
[09:09] <danko123456> doubt what?
[09:09] <bob2> bcowan: make sure your CD is ok
[09:09] <danko123456> I got lost ther.
[09:09] <bob2> danko123456: sorry, not you
[09:09] <danko123456> heh
[09:09] <karsten> bob2: Alternatively, can I install ia32 on an AMD64?
[09:09] <danko123456> cool
[09:09] <bob2> da_bon_bon: I'd be surprised if it works.
[09:09] <da_bon_bon> what does marc74 want to do ?
[09:09] <bob2> karsten: yes
[09:09] <ashche> is ubuntu shipping  GCC 4?
[09:09] <karsten> bob2: kthx
[09:09] <bob2> karsten: woody will not work, though, it's too old to support much amd64 hardware.
[09:09] <crimsun> ashche: for Breezy.
[09:10] <bob2> ashche: breezy includes it
[09:10] <Dethread> ashche, it's available...
[09:10] <rixth> Look please guys. Why won't Ubtuntu install? I get an error bout BSDUtils, I've downloaded the ISO from different mirrors, and each time, the MD5 sums were different. I'm trying to burn using XP as thats all I have available. I WAS using Debian. How can I get a working ISO (don't suggest slower burn seed)
[09:10] <danko123456> I got him in private, da_bon_bon
[09:10] <da_bon_bon> danko123456: rixth
[09:10] <karsten> bob2: <coff>
[09:10] <stuNNed> bob2: i.e: we're having an install fest here soon and would like to use ubuntu but i'm sure some will need their ntfs partitions resized and wanted to know the integrity of the progam.
[09:10] <bob2> ashche: but breezy is pretty screwed
[09:10] <bob2> rixth: dude
[09:10] <karsten> bob2: As if I would anyway ;-)
[09:10] <zerokarmaleft> abarbaccia, don't think there's support for thunderbird yet
[09:10] <da_bon_bon> danko123456: ok
[09:10] <bob2> rixth: if the md5sum isn't correct, don't even bother trying to install.  it will not work.
[09:10] <da_bon_bon> bob2: what does hibernate do ? same as in xp ?
[09:10] <bob2> rixth: the MD5SUM file in the dir contains the correct one
[09:10] <threat> hey
[09:10] <bob2> da_bon_bon: yes
[09:10] <zerokarmaleft> abarbaccia, just evolution
[09:10] <threat> da_bon_bon, I assume so
[09:10] <Dethread> I tried 4.0 for a project at school, and it didn't work too well....3.4 is still great for whatever might come up
[09:10] <bob2> stuNNed: guess you'll have to test it :-0
[09:11] <bob2> 3.4 for C++ stuff is complicated
[09:11] <bob2> ie it will not work if you use libraries
[09:11] <stuNNed> bob2: eghad k :D
[09:11] <da_bon_bon> bob2: great! but one hibernate + switch on != on restart , right ?
[09:11] <rixth> bob2, Well why the hell is it. I downloaded from two different mirrors, the two version sI downloaded have the same MD5s but they differ from the MD%SUM file on both mirrors.
[09:11] <bob2> da_bon_bon: sure.
[09:11] <bob2> rixth: then your connection is screwed
[09:11] <bob2> rixth: use rsync to fix it.
[09:12] <Quinn_Storm> rixth: are you using ftp to download it? or http?
[09:12] <abarbaccia> zerokarmaleft, thats a bummer for me i guess
[09:12] <rixth> Bob2, I'm not using Linux right now.   I was wondering if the CPU itself still supprted the 386 virtual machine.
[09:14] <da_bon_bon> rixth: because debian != ubuntu, maybe ?
[09:14] <danko123456> I am putting out butts in a PIzza box...not a good idea, I tell you.
[09:14] <karsten> rixth: Trust:  installing from a bad burn / d/l breaks just as badly in Debian as Ubuntu.
[09:14] <rixth> Okay. Is there anyway to install from an ISO over a network? Or a pool from over a network?
[09:15] <bob2> rixth: http://tinyurl.com/9x79n
[09:15] <karsten> danko123456: Keep 'em in your pants kthx.
[09:16] <da_bon_bon> rixth: are u familiar with bittorrent ?
[09:16] <da_bon_bon> rixth: then i can help u and u dont need to get the iso again
[09:16] <rixth> da_don_bon, yes, I loave it.
[09:16] <rixth> bob2, is that REALLY the easiest way to do a NetInst
[09:17] <karsten> rixth: Is that love or loath?
[09:17] <da_bon_bon> rixth: do this. get a torrent for the desired cd
[09:17] <da_bon_bon> rixth: start the download.
[09:17] <da_bon_bon> rixth: when it says "connectiong to peer" cancel it
[09:17] <da_bon_bon> rixth: that way, u will get a folder and a 0 kb cd iso
[09:17] <rixth> da_bon_bon, no. loave means I HATE it.
[09:17] <da_bon_bon> rixth: oh
[09:17] <da_bon_bon> wasted my typing!!
[09:17] <rixth> It goes terribly slow, i think my ISp may block the ports.
[09:18] <undre61> Quick Ques: whats the best ftp client for ubuntu?
[09:18] <rixth> da_bon_bon, nothing against you, I just find it slow.
[09:18] <danko123456> not likely, rixth
[09:18] <revelater> hey, every time i start xine, i get the last large picture loaded in firefox in the window while it is starting.. is there a reason why?
[09:18] <stuNNed> rixth: loath i think you mean?
[09:18] <da_bon_bon> rixth: even if u need to get 2 mb ?
[09:18] <da_bon_bon> ~1mb ?
[09:18] <karsten> bob2: BTW, in your copious free time, if you want to disabuse me of any misconceptions:  http://archives.seul.org/schoolforge/discuss/Apr-2005/msg00052.html
[09:18] <revelater> ohh, i should be asking in the fluxbox channel shouldn't i....
[09:18] <stuNNed> loathe eve
[09:18] <stuNNed> even*
[09:18] <Quinn_Storm> revelater: actually this is the ubuntu channel :-P
[09:18] <undre61> Quick Ques: whats the best ftp client for ubuntu?
[09:19] <da_bon_bon> rixth: then make a iso image of ur cd. and replace that iwth the 0kb one. then allow bittorrent to download what it wants. that way u will get a perfect cd iso
[09:19] <revelater> right, but i am using fluxbox
[09:19] <abarbaccia> undre61, if you want a quick ftp client- add the plugin to firefox
[09:19] <zerokarmaleft> abarbaccia, ya i did when i still had warty installed until inotify/gamin became unstable...installed fresh from hoary array 5 and haven't gotten around to setting it up again
[09:19] <abarbaccia> zerokarmaleft, can you explain to me how to do it if you got time?
[09:19] <undre61> abarbaccia : Coool
[09:20] <abarbaccia> undre61, after it installs, just go to tools, then click the FTP and it opens a client in a new tab!
[09:20] <undre61> bery bery nice
[09:20] <danko123456> is it ssh -l username ip?
[09:20] <bob2> undre61: nautilus (the file manager) can do that
[09:20] <rj-away> ssh -l user host or ssh user@host
[09:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> danko yes
[09:20] <danko123456> thanks.
[09:21] <danko123456> hes away, too:)
[09:21] <undre61> bob2 HOw?
[09:21] <bob2> undre61: hit ctrl-l ftp://blah.com/
[09:21] <rixth> bob2, I seriously doub it's my connection. I had a friend download it earlier today (she's on a differnt ISP) and her MD5 sum is that same as mine. (She downloaded from a differnt mirror altogether)
[09:22] <bob2> rixth: then use archive.ubuntu.com. I promise the isos there are not corrupt
[09:22] <stuNNed> does ubuntu support roaming profiles?
[09:22] <crimsun> rixth: out of curiosity, what software are you using to create the burned cds?
[09:22] <rixth> Yet another download at 18kbsec. Joy.
[09:23] <bob2> rixth: dude
[09:23] <da_bon_bon> rixth: just do what i told, and u dont need no get the complete image
[09:23] <bob2> rixth: stop downloading it then.  you're wasting your time, and everyone's bandwidth.
[09:23] <danko123456> would ssh just hang if there is no SSH server installed?
[09:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> no
[09:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> not as such
[09:23] <rj-away> depends on firewall rules in between.
[09:23] <danko123456> why does it hang, though?
[09:23] <crimsun> danko123456: if the port is firewalled to -j DROP, yes, otherwise it will just return a connection refused immediately
[09:23] <da_bon_bon> danko123456: try ssh www.google.com and u will know
[09:24] <rixth> da_bon_bon, please explain your idea to me?
[09:24] <da_bon_bon> rixth: wait a sec
[09:24] <danko123456> k, thanks, crimsun, nd others.
[09:24] <bob2> rixth: just use rsync to fix your existing image
[09:25] <rixth> bob2, I am not on Linux.
[09:25] <bob2> rixth: it runs on windows.
[09:25] <karsten> rixth: http://www.cygwin.com/
[09:25] <rixth> Ill find a copy.
[09:25] <karsten> rixth: ..or get a port.
[09:25] <karsten> bob2: What's your relationship to Ubuntu?  You canonicalized yet?
[09:26] <bob2> rixth: http://www.gaztronics.net/rsync.php
[09:26] <da_bon_bon> rixth: http://rafb.net/paste/results/8fcrZx53.html
[09:26] <bezibaerchen> anyone can help me with apt-get upgrade? theres thunderbird in the list, and it says, that this package will not be upgraded. how can i fix that?
[09:26] <da_bon_bon> rixth: http://rafb.net/paste/results/8fcrZx53.html
[09:26] <bob2> karsten: I work for canonical, been there a year
[09:26] <da_bon_bon> bezibaerchen: breezy ?
[09:26] <abarbaccia> zerokarmaleft, you there buddy?
[09:26] <karsten> bob2: OK.
[09:26] <bezibaerchen> da_bon_bon: hoary
[09:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> -f
[09:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> force
[09:27] <bodaciousb> how do i chmod a folder to be available to the main user?
[09:27] <danko123456> main user?
[09:27] <da_bon_bon> bezibaerchen: strange. no thunderbird update for me
[09:27] <abarbaccia> bodaciousb, well, to what user?  the owner, the group, or other?
[09:27] <bodaciousb> bodaciousb
[09:27] <bodaciousb> my only user
[09:27] <zerokarmaleft> abarbaccia, well you've piqued my interest...i've just checked beagle out from CVS to see if it wants to play :)
[09:27] <bezibaerchen> abarbaccia: The following packages are kept back:
[09:27] <bezibaerchen> Kamping_Kaiser: where force?
[09:27] <bodaciousb> i jsut installed quake3 arena linux version and it wont start... my guess is the permissions
[09:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> its a switch to apt-get.
[09:28] <zerokarmaleft> abarbaccia, since they've gotten rid of a couple of dependencies
[09:28] <danko123456> sudo chmod -R 744 bodaciousb folder
[09:28] <danko123456> is  it?
[09:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> apt-get upgrade -f or somthing
[09:28] <bezibaerchen> Kamping_Kaiser: same. kept back
[09:28] <bezibaerchen> someone mentioned dselect
[09:28] <bezibaerchen> but i dont see any packages in dselect
[09:28] <bodaciousb> danko123456, cannot access bodaciousb
[09:28] <abarbaccia> danko123456, isnt 744 going to just give read access?  he might need write too...or possibly execute 755 or 766
[09:28] <da_bon_bon> rixth: did u get it ?
[09:28] <rixth> bob2 I'm installing cygwin/rsync now
[09:29] <danko123456> 744 is 7 for owner, 4 for others.
[09:29] <danko123456> 7-all,.
[09:29] <abarbaccia> 4 read
[09:29] <rixth> da_bon_bon I'm looking now
[09:29] <bezibaerchen> chmod u+rwx
[09:29] <Kamping_Kaiser> bezibaerchen, try installing it on its own
[09:29] <bezibaerchen> Kamping_Kaiser: how?
[09:29] <da_bon_bon> rixth: ok
[09:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> bezibaerchen. install the rest, then install it on its own
[09:30] <rixth> I'll try rsync first, if that doesn't work, i'll try that
[09:30] <abarbaccia> danko123456, am i right?
[09:30] <da_bon_bon> rixth: your wish
[09:30] <bodaciousb> quake 3 is throwing this error int he console which makes me think permissionsSys_Error: Couldn't load default.cfg
[09:30] <danko123456> 4 read, yup.
[09:31] <bodaciousb> it resides in /usr/local/games/quake3#
[09:31] <danko123456> 4- read, 2-write, 1-execute...
[09:31] <danko123456> add to use both, or all three.
[09:32] <danko123456> or the new and easy way...
[09:32] <danko123456> chmod +xwr
[09:32] <bezibaerchen> Kamping_Kaiser: its the only one left
[09:32] <abarbaccia> right, so using just 4 wouldnt give him write access which i was saying he might need
[09:32] <bodaciousb>  chmod -R  +xwr /usr/local/games/quake3 is what i did
[09:32] <bezibaerchen> ah
[09:32] <bezibaerchen> broken packages
[09:33] <bezibaerchen> k, dont need tunderbird anyway ;-)
[09:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> :) ok
[09:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> what do you use?
[09:34] <Q_Continuum> ATI Binaries question for Hoary...doing an apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx comes back with "cannot find package"
[09:34] <bezibaerchen> IF i use a client on my laptop, i use evolution. but i prefer eroupware and its email-client or felamimail with wgroupware Kamping_Kaiser
[09:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> bezibaerchen. try this :) $ apt-get moo
[09:34] <Raskall> how on earth can I make my ubuntu-laptop play mp3's?
[09:34] <tabmoW> anyone get a problem with kubuntu hoary stopping after scsi [success]
[09:34] <danko123456> bodaciousb: does it work now?
[09:34] <bcowan> ok some packages failed again and I md5 this cd
[09:35] <danko123456> and, why are you bodacius?
[09:35] <St0n3-C0l> how do I create Desktop Icon for Synaptic ?
[09:35] <bodaciousb> danko123456, no.... im wondering if default.cfg is missing
[09:35] <bcowan> how do I fix them from this curses console that comes up
[09:35] <bezibaerchen> Kamping_Kaiser: :-P
[09:35] <raghu> Q_Continuum: apt-cache search xorg-driver-fglrx
[09:35] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[09:35] <tabmoW> Raskall: did you install ubuntu on your laptop or is ubuntu-laptop a special distro specifically for laptops?
[09:35] <St0n3-C0l> I added 'gksu synaptic' in launcher and when it asks for the password...it says wrong pas!
[09:35] <Raskall> tabmoW: totally vanilla hoary install.
[09:35] <St0n3-C0l> whereas in System menu it doesn't
[09:35] <Q_Continuum> raghu, I didn't have all the sources uncommented lol
[09:36] <tabmoW> Raskall: install xmms-mp3
[09:36] <Q_Continuum> thanks anyway.
[09:36] <danko123456> bodaciousb: I am not really into games...
[09:36] <Raskall> tabmoW: will that work for rhythmbox also?
[09:36] <Quinn_Storm> St0n3-C0l: that's b/c you need to gksudo not gksu
[09:36] <tabmoW> no
[09:36] <St0n3-C0l> Quinn_Storm: Ohh thanks :P
[09:36] <bodaciousb> danko123456, i know... i was just hoping it was an easy permissions fix =)
[09:36] <danko123456> bodaciousb: not really sure what the error is...
[09:36] <DmD> Q_Continuum is pretty much my neighbor :)
[09:37] <danko123456> DmD: You got out of vim?
[09:37] <danko123456> :)
[09:37] <Q_Continuum> and we have a mutual aquantance(sp?)
[09:37] <DmD> yeah danko
[09:37] <danko123456> cool
[09:37] <DmD> didn't get it setup yet though ;x
[09:37] <danko123456> I have a eBook on VI on some hard...
[09:37] <DmD> vsftpd
[09:37] <DmD> ah
[09:38] <danko123456> I steal eBooks, there I said it...
[09:38] <danko123456> :")_
[09:38] <DmD> haha nice
[09:38] <danko123456> I supplied my whole class with one book for a course.
[09:38] <danko123456> I had it linked on my website.
[09:38] <DmD>  Q_Continuum is wardriving atm
[09:38] <DmD> he was sitting at a local denny's
[09:38] <danko123456> Noone bought a book for the course:)
[09:39] <DmD> i may go meet him tonite
[09:39] <DmD> he's in my area
[09:39] <DmD> somewhere
[09:39] <rixth> danko123456, I havePHP 5 for Dummies and PHP/SQL for Dummies eBooks if you would like them :) They are really quite good
[09:39] <DmD> tellin me where to find wifi's :)
[09:39] <karsten> bob2: Any other notable packages that don't work in AMD64?  OO.o, WINE, are mentinoed.
[09:39] <danko123456>  I have those:P
[09:39] <DmD> danko, sure :)
[09:39] <danko123456> I have soooo many.
[09:39] <DmD> i'll pm you..
[09:39] <DmD> is that ok?
[09:39] <danko123456> sure
[09:39] <bcowan> how do i get a new copy of this gthumb that fails everytime
[09:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> if i want the kernel source to be in the right place when i run apt-src, where should my working path be?
[09:40] <Quinn_Storm> Kamping_Kaiser: actually you just do apt-get kernel-source-whatever
[09:41] <Quinn_Storm> Kamping_Kaiser: they made special packages to fix that
[09:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> quinn_storm. ok thanks ill give it a go
[09:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> so the source for 2.6.11-1 isnt available from ubuntu yet?
[09:42] <`anthony> anyone here with dbus-python clue?
[09:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> should i get it from the kernel mirror?
[09:43] <Quinn_Storm> Kamping_Kaiser: you really want the debianish kernel package...it looks like 2.6.11 just isn't up yet
[09:43] <rixth> Okay. I have rsync under Cygwin now. How do I update my ISO?
[09:44] <bodaciousb> how do i eject the cdrom?
[09:44] <marc74> i forgot
[09:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> right click, eject
[09:45] <bob2> karsten: qemu maybe.
[09:45] <marc74> i know there was someone i was talking to
[09:45] <bob2> karsten: basically only emulation-ish stuff and big binary crap like OO
[09:45] <marc74> anyone?
[09:45] <rixth> bob2, I have rsync installed now, how do I update the image?
[09:45] <tkz> I need some help with connecting USB GPS-receiver to my laptop. Anyone done this before?
[09:46] <karsten> bob2: OK.  Complicated stuff mostly then I take it.
[09:46] <marc74> i guess he must have logged off
[09:46] <karsten> rixth: rsync <remote> <local>
[09:46] <rixth> Okauy
[09:46] <karsten> rixth: host:path/file for remote.
[09:46] <marc74> someone was there trying to connect to me
[09:47] <marc74> we were having problems
[09:47] <bob2> rixth: I gave you the url
[09:47] <bob2> 17:15:08           bob2 | rixth: http://tinyurl.com/9x79n
[09:47] <rixth> Wtf. Is there no way to cut and paste in Cygwin?
[09:47] <marc74> gosh
[09:47] <tkz> How do I find out the "path" of the USB device?
[09:47] <koka-kola> start_freenode
[09:48] <bob2> tkz: /var/log/syslog will have it
[09:48] <marc74> fine i lost that chat
[09:48] <pixil9> tkz, what gps program are you using
[09:48] <pixil9> i need to get one
[09:48] <tkz> bob2:  thanks, I'll  check that out
[09:48] <marc74> i had to reboot
[09:48] <karsten> rixth: In the terminal, it's the stupid Windows DOS shell mark/paste through menu.
[09:48] <karsten> rixth: If you have rxvt installed, it's X copy/paste.
[09:48] <tkz> pixil9:  I have GPSDrive installed
[09:49] <pixil9> ah
[09:49] <cioli2000> hi...
[09:49] <danko123456> Mar
[09:49] <danko123456> marc74: I have you on private
[09:50] <phanter> hello, I am using ubuntu on my laptop and to save energy it can slow the processor down to 35%. I would like to slow it down even more (to 20% or something). Where can I change this setting?
[09:51] <pixil9> tkz, I think it only supports serial
[09:51] <Raskall> agh.. how do I get rid of a <defunct> process without booting?
[09:52] <pixil9> there's no usb option in preferences and the default is /dev/ttyS3
[09:52] <phanter> Raskall: tried to kill it?
[09:52] <iso> raskall kill -9?
[09:52] <tkz> pixil9:  hmm... I was hoping that it would no matter because USB is sort of a serial port too
[09:52] <Raskall> phanter, iso: none works.
[09:52] <tkz> pixil9:  any idea what would be better program?
[09:52] <iso> raskall : what process?
[09:53] <pixil9> tkz, http://www.gpsdrive.cc/faq.shtml
[09:53] <Raskall> iso: ha hanging rhythmbox process.
[09:53] <Raskall> -h
[09:54] <tkz> Ok, I found this in /var/log/syslog "Apr 29 10:49:27 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2" ...how does that translate into a path to the USB device in newbie-language? :)
[09:54] <Q_Continuum> Hrm.  I broke Ubuntu.  Again.
[09:54] <rixth> bob2, this is f'd up.  Now I get ssh: http: no address associated with name
[09:54] <rixth> Great.
[09:54] <phanter> Q_Continuum: what did you do?
[09:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> rxith. what are you putting in?
[09:54] <Q_Continuum> Doing the ATI to fglrd drivers, did the command-line change...how do I fix it?  on bootup, after it says "starting Ubuntu" the screen goes blank.
[09:55] <pixil9> ?? ati
[09:55] <uhelper> ati: To install binary xorg ATI drivers - http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:55] <Q_Continuum> I did that.
[09:55] <tkz> pixil9:  seems I dont have ttyUSB0
[09:55] <pixil9> ok
[09:55] <rixth> I can't cut and paste. It was rsync http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso ./ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso <---- Thats what this tutorial said
[09:56] <Q_Continuum> sudo sed -i -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf. (is the period supposed to be there?  I didn't put the period...)
[09:56] <Q_Continuum> that's what broke it.
[09:56] <Q_Continuum> I did a ctrl alt backspace to restart x, and the screen went blank.
[09:56] <pixil9> that's right
[09:56] <pixil9> just check it with pico
[09:57] <tkz> bob2:  I found the line in the syslog that was about the USB GPS. How does it translate to a path (Apr 29 10:49:27 localhost kernel: usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2)
[09:57] <pixil9> Q_Continuum, just do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:57] <pixil9> and select fglrx
[09:57] <spiral> hi
[09:57] <Q_Continuum> can I do that from recovery mode or whatever it is?
[09:58] <Q_Continuum> on bootup I get a blank screen (doesn't even crash to a console, like my desktop did)
[09:58] <danko123456> him, spiral
[09:58] <pixil9> just hit ctrl-alt-f2
[09:58] <danko123456> hi, spiral
[09:58] <pixil9> for console
[09:58] <Q_Continuum> tried that
[09:58] <revelater> hey mplayer gets out of sync easily and uses all of my processor for some reason....
[09:58] <Q_Continuum> stayed blank.
[09:58] <pixil9> and did dpkg-reconfigure?
[10:00] <revelater> help anyone?
[10:00] <GNAM> why ubuntu i386 is way better than ubuntu x86_64? On obuntu x86_64, X.org don't see the correct resolution
[10:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> revelator what with?
[10:00] <revelater> hey mplayer gets out of sync easily and uses all of my processor for some reason....
[10:01] <rixth> Can someone make a rsync string for me to update my ubuntu ISO. i can't figure it out.
[10:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> know the problem, cant help revelator. :| im using totem
[10:01] <iso> rixth what are you trying to update?
[10:01] <danko123456> xine, totem...
[10:01] <DmD> is there a tut to explain how to setup a wireless NIC?  i have a D-Link air adapter and i'm wondering if those are easy to setup
[10:02] <revelater> xine gives me another problem
[10:02] <danko123456> DmD: it does not work just by itself?
[10:02] <revelater> when loading up it shows the last picture loaded by firefox, which could possibly be some hentai ;)
[10:03] <rixth> Can someone make a rsync string for me to update my Ubuntu ISO. I can't figure it out. Use the server us.releases.ubuntu.com
[10:03] <DmD> i'm on my ethernet connection right now but i wanted to try and see if the wireless NIC would work
[10:03] <danko123456> (03:01:59) iso: rixth what are you trying to update?
[10:03] <bob2> tkz: don't know, I'd assume /dev/ttyUSB0, assuming it is an actual serial device
[10:04] <rixth> danko123456, my Hoary ISO. The md5 checksum is wrong (I've dl'd it three time from differnt mirrors)
[10:05] <rixth> 62fcc0f5ddfb46036a560c9658b5b7bf
[10:05] <iso> rixth rsync may not be the proper solution for your problem.
[10:05] <tkz> bob2:  my machine does not have /dev/ttyUSB0, is that something I should create?
[10:06] <rixth> iso, what would it be then? My install pukes with something about BSDUtils. I'm using XP at the moment (and I used tht to burn the ISO) becuase it's all I have available,.
[10:06] <bob2> iso: in what way?
[10:06] <bob2> tkz: no
[10:07] <iso> rixth are you using an ftp client or any sort to download your iso?
[10:07] <danko123456> iso: thats it, no follow up?
[10:08] <danko123456> heh
[10:08] <rixth> No. First time, I downloaded it onto Linux and burnt over the network from an XP machine. Second time (after it failed) I downloaded (http) onto the XP Machine and burnt using Alocohol 120%
[10:08] <pixil9> tkz, I think you need some sort of usb to serial driver
[10:09] <p0m> Lovely, I've killed all sound :(
[10:09] <bodaciousb> when i install linux tomarrow and move my windows system to my Second hd.. should i install windows first?
[10:10] <tkz> pixil9:  hmm... have to check into that if i don't get this to work
[10:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes bodaciousb
[10:10] <pixil9> tkz, or a m odule
[10:10] <bodaciousb> Kamping_Kaiser,  thanks
[10:10] <iso> rixth i've run into problems once with a flakey SSH client which caused all sorts of grief. outside of that, not too sure what the problem in your case may be
[10:10] <Q_Continuum> arggggg
[10:10] <bodaciousb> after seeing quake3 run on my system, im dethroning windows tomarrow... linux is now king =)
[10:10] <p0m> Ohh well. A reinstall was on the cards anyhow.
[10:10] <Q_Continuum> I must be selecting something wrong, or something.  it crashes out when I go to start x.
[10:11] <iso> rixth i believe you can purchase the media from the site
[10:11] <rixth> All I know is that all other distributions have been seamless.  I swaer I'm going to install 2K back on my machine, atleast that installed.
[10:15] <Quinn_Storm> well I -could- be wrong
[10:16] <Quinn_Storm> I doubt it, but ask around, I'm not exactly einstein
[10:16] <pixil9> Q_Continuum, yes.
[10:16] <DmD> after installing NETPRISM.inf for my wireless nic i typed sudo modprobe ndiswrapper then it said:
[10:16] <DmD> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[10:16] <pixil9> Linux x86_64
[10:16] <Q_Continuum> they are 64-bit?
[10:16] <mpq> animated GIFs don't display correctly in gnome image viewer
[10:16] <DmD> i installed ndiswrapper
[10:16] <pixil9> actually it says they are unable to offer support for notebooks
[10:16] <Quinn_Storm> well maybe I was wrong about the x86_64 thing
[10:17] <Quinn_Storm> I hope I was
[10:17] <Quinn_Storm> b/c that would mean ati wasn't so bad
[10:17] <mpq> is there a better program to quickly display images?
[10:17] <Q_Continuum> how can I tell what arch the drivers are that I have installed?
[10:17] <pixil9> its says they have no x86 support for laptops either
[10:17] <daniels> Q_Continuum: dude, watch the language
[10:17] <mpq> animated GIFs don't display correctly in the default viewer
[10:17] <Q_Continuum> sorry.
[10:17] <Quinn_Storm> mpq: come to the k side and use gwenview :-P
[10:17] <daniels> and, for the record, both ati and nvidia have both i386 and amd64 drivers.
[10:17] <pixil9> o.
[10:18] <Quinn_Storm> daniels: ok, I won't make the mistake of thinking otherwise again
[10:18] <mpq> I don't want to change my desktop program
[10:18] <pixil9> daniels, Where can you get them?
[10:18] <danko123456> watch the language, there may be kids reading:?
[10:18] <daniels> pixil9: http://www.ubuntu.com/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:18] <goldfish> danko123456: lol
[10:18] <mpq> I'm too used to gnome
[10:19] <mpq> I don't want to learn to use something else
[10:19] <goldfish> lol
[10:19] <jamie> hello, has anyone else dealt with the jumpy mouse thing?  I've tried everything I've found online, but can't seem to fix it completely
[10:19] <daniels> danko123456: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[10:19] <Q_Continuum> pixi19, they've always said that.  but, a good friend of mine said that ATI's working on Catalyst drivers for mobiles, no matter what :-)
[10:19] <pixil9> Q_Continuum, I guess that's not the problem then
[10:19] <Q_Continuum> good friend writes for www.theinquirer.net
[10:19] <goldfish> mpq: Since i tried xfce and fluxbox i cant use gnome again.
[10:19] <Q_Continuum> *sigh*
[10:19] <Q_Continuum> probably misconfig or something.
[10:19] <daniels> the ATI drivers also work in laptops.  there are two very specific chipsets that it does not work on, and that probably won't be resolved any time soon.
[10:20] <Q_Continuum> what chipsets are those, daniels?
[10:20] <DmD> can someone help me install my wireless nic (D-Link Air)?
[10:20] <fabio> Hello all
[10:20] <mpq> how different is KDE from gnome?
[10:20] <goldfish> mpq: install it have a try
[10:20] <danko123456> try it
[10:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> totaly different
[10:20] <danko123456> in one word, very
[10:20] <goldfish> i bet u wont use gnome again :)
[10:20] <mpq> I don't know how to install it
[10:20] <Quinn_Storm> mpq: night and day in a lot of ways...kde is highly configurable and can be daunting in that way...but then in other ways they are very similar...I'm not in a good position though to explain
[10:20] <DmD> i tried to load the module and i typed sudo modprobe ndiswrapper and i get this error msg
[10:21] <DmD> Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[10:21] <danko123456> apt-get install kde
[10:21] <danko123456> is it?
[10:21] <goldfish> dunno the exact package name
[10:21] <mpq> that seems too easy
[10:21] <Q_Continuum> that's it, I'll reselect the ATI drivers, and just can't use 3D.
[10:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> kde-desktop
[10:21] <DmD> i loaded the .inf drive that i needed for the wireless nic
[10:21] <Riddell> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:22] <mpq> okay
[10:22] <DmD>  sudo ndiswrapper -l
[10:22] <DmD> Installed ndis drivers:
[10:22] <DmD> netprism        invalid driver!
[10:22] <mpq> downloading it now
[10:22] <DmD> what can i do about that?
[10:22] <DmD> earlier i did sudo ndiswraper -i NETPRISM.inf
[10:22] <mpq> what happens once it finishes?
[10:22] <pixil9> ?? ndiswrapper > DmD
[10:22] <goldfish> mpq: at the login screen, if u click sessions, you can choose what manager to use, i.e gnome, kde, etc.....
[10:23] <mpq> ok
[10:23] <DmD> sudo ndiswrapper -i NETPRISM.inf
[10:23] <DmD> that's what i typed
[10:23] <mpq> there's more than two?
[10:23] <p0m> Don't you go ndiswrapper -m and make the modprobe info for it?
[10:23] <DmD> then when i tried to load the module
[10:23] <jamie> mpq: there's tons
[10:23] <mpq> heh
[10:23] <mpq> I've only heard of gnome and kde
[10:23] <DmD> i typed sudo modprobe ndiswrapper to load the module
[10:23] <pixil9> ?? ndiswrapper
[10:23] <uhelper> ndiswrapper: Howto - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[10:23] <DmD> ah ty
[10:23] <DmD> i got the pm
[10:23] <DmD> nvm
[10:24] <DmD> i was looking at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2681.html
[10:24] <p0m> daniels: You wouldn't happen to know if esound with multiple sources playing at once works on Hoary would you?
[10:24] <goldfish> mpq: aye, there's loads, fluxbox is a good one, minimal, but very fast, i really like xfce too
[10:24] <jamie> mpq: there's enlightenment, xfce, ice, fluxbox, and a bunch of others
[10:24] <pixil9> ?? wireless
[10:24] <uhelper> wireless: Howto - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WiFiHowto/
[10:25] <mpq> I gave up with wireless
[10:25] <mpq> my mom lost the WEP key so I stopped trying
[10:25] <jamie> has anyone heard of the mouse pointer jumpiness/loss of response thing?
[10:25] <pixil9> lol just change it in ur config
[10:25] <jamie> I know other people have had this problem
[10:25] <rj-away> No one ever mentions twm or gwm :/
[10:25] <mpq> jamie: maybe it's a driver thing?
[10:26] <daniels> p0m: no idea
[10:26] <mpq> my mouse sometimes doesn't work right, and I was told it was a driver thing
[10:26] <Quinn_Storm> I just make words out of the hex in my wep keys that way I don't forget
[10:26] <jamie> could be, but I tried manually adding the synaptics driver to my xorg.conf, didn't help
[10:26] <goldfish> jamie: my frined has the problem on his toshiba laptop. hasnt been able to fix it yet.
[10:26] <goldfish> *friend
[10:26] <p0m> daniels: Bugger.
[10:26] <mpq> they use the key comcast gave us
[10:26] <mpq> which was some really complicated thing
[10:26] <mpq> and they lost it
[10:27] <mpq> of course they don't have trouble because they never change anything on their computers
[10:27] <jamie> also tried making the synaptics device the corepointer and giving the other mouse interrupt (i.e., reversing their status), which helped some, but it didn't fix it either
[10:27] <jamie> I've seen online that kernel 2.6.10-5 fixes this, but it doesn't
[10:28] <jamie> and I've tried stopping powernowd as some suggested, which has helped quite a bit, but it still happens every now and again
[10:28] <DmD> i forget the revison of my wireless nic but when i put the cd into the drive it says dvl_650_520...so would it be a  D-Link Air DWL-650 ?
[10:28] <DmD> dwl_650_520 **
[10:28] <danko123456> dvl, maybe
[10:28] <DmD> it says dwl_650_520
[10:28] <jamie> rj-away: no one mentions twm  because it physically hurts to use it :)
[10:29] <danko123456> ok
[10:29] <rj-away> jamie: Bah, encourages people to learn how to use a cli environment... :)
[10:29] <rixth> How the hell do i update my ISO of Hoary. i've been trying for an hour and I'm really, realyl FUCKED OFF.
[10:29] <jamie> rj-away: now you're talking
[10:29] <goldfish> cli enviornment?
[10:30] <rj-away> command line interface
[10:30] <DmD> when i listed the chipsets in the terminal i found Network controller: Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01)
[10:30] <goldfish> ah right.
[10:30] <DmD> could that be the wireless nic?
[10:30] <goldfish> Cool, i like those :)
[10:30] <DmD> the brand is D-Link AIR though
[10:30] <DmD> or wait
[10:30] <jamie> goldfish: funny because it's true... twm is pain
[10:30] <DmD> that must be my onboard lan
[10:30] <goldfish> jamie: heh
[10:30] <mpq> are there programs that work in gnome but not kde?
[10:31] <jamie> mpq: not exactly, but some work much more natively with gnome
[10:31] <mpq> I don't want to inadvertently screw something up
[10:31] <jamie> mpq: since you have gnome, you'll have the libraries you need to run things
[10:31] <johnnybezak> hey guys i want to convert mp3 to wav, what do i do?
[10:31] <goldfish> u can stilluse gnome too
[10:31] <mpq> ok
[10:31] <DmD> Other: Tested on debian unstable with Ndiswrapper 0.8, kernel 2.6.5 custom on July 6th Works perfectly even under high transfer rates.
[10:31] <mpq> as long as it doesn't delete anything for some reason
[10:31] <p0m> mpq: Once you've screwed something up a few times you pick up an intuition for if it is going to happen again :)
[10:31] <pixil9> johnnybezak, I think xmms has a wav output plugin
[10:32] <jamie> mpq: the vast majority of things will work happily in either
[10:32] <johnnybezak> pixil9: how do I use it?
[10:32] <goldfish> mp3blaster can convert to wav
[10:32] <mpq> kde is installing now
[10:32] <mpq> will it start automatically or should I restart?
[10:32] <jamie> mpq: you'll need to log out and select kde as your environment before logging back in
[10:33] <mpq> ok
[10:33] <goldfish> mpq: restart x, then at the login screen, click sessions, and choose it.
[10:33] <DmD> i found the driver on the cd but i can't seem to load the module
[10:33] <jamie> mpq: do you know  how to restart x?
[10:33] <mpq> no
[10:33] <pixil9> johnnybezak, options --> preferences --> output plugin --> disk writer
[10:33] <pixil9> play the song
[10:33] <goldfish> ctrl + alt + backspace
[10:33] <mpq> I'm not sure what x even is
[10:33] <Gir__> CTRL + ALT + backspace
[10:33] <jamie> mpq: log out first, then hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:33] <mpq> ok
[10:34] <goldfish> mpq: x is like the gui.
[10:34] <jamie> mpq: x is short for X11, the windowing system in linux
[10:34] <mpq> ah
[10:34] <mpq> I thought that's what gnome did
[10:34] <jamie> gnome uses X11
[10:34] <mpq> oh
[10:34] <jamie> it is X11 and very much more
[10:34] <mpq> I thought the window system was part of the desktop
[10:34] <goldfish> anyone know any good terminal based music players?
[10:35] <mpq> ok
[10:35] <goldfish> or console based... not sure how to term it.
[10:35] <jamie> mpq: sort of...  the desktop environment is a big set of things sitting on top of x
[10:35] <mpq> trying now
[10:36] <jamie> so does anyone here know anything about the mouse issue?  sorry to be pushy, it's for a friends machine
[10:36] <Deanodriver> hi
[10:36] <pixil9> jamie, whats the entry in /etc/X11/xorg.conf for the mouse driver? PS/2?
[10:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> jamie no i dont
[10:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi deanodriver
[10:37] <jamie> pixil9: lemme grab it
[10:37] <Deanodriver> i've just got a little question
[10:37] <pixil9> or ImPS/2
[10:37] <Q_Continuum> mmmkay
[10:37] <Q_Continuum> This blows.
[10:37] <Q_Continuum> and thus, I'm going to reinstall.
[10:37] <Q_Continuum> reset to select ati (I'll get 3D working later) and it doesn't allow me to select my resolution for my monitor.
[10:38] <Deanodriver> i'm trying to get a hard drive to mount when i boot the system, and I'm just wondering what i'd need to put in /etc/fstab to get it working?
[10:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> whats the hdd?
[10:38] <Deanodriver> (my files drive, fat32 partition)
[10:38] <pixil9> ?? ntfs
[10:38] <uhelper> ntfs: To mount and unmount windows partitions (ntfs, fat) - http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[10:38] <goldfish> Q_Continuum: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[10:38] <Deanodriver> 160GB Seagate PATA
[10:38] <Q_Continuum> on the screen where it asks what resolutions you want the xserver to use, I can select my native (1280x800) but on the monitor resolution screen, 1280x800 is NOT an option.
[10:38] <Q_Continuum> did goldfish.
[10:38] <goldfish> ah right :/
[10:38] <danko123456> hey
[10:38] <Q_Continuum> so I had to select 1024x768
[10:38] <Q_Continuum> :-(
[10:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> deano
[10:38] <danko123456> for adduser (group) username.
[10:38] <Q_Continuum> so now it looks like crap.
[10:39] <danko123456> Waht is the syntax>?
[10:39] <Deanodriver> ahh
[10:39] <Deanodriver> i see where i went wrong
[10:39] <Kamping_Kaiser>  /dev/hd# /mnt/placehere vfat defaults 0 0
[10:39] <mpq> interesting
[10:39] <goldfish> mpq: work?
[10:39] <Deanodriver> thanks
[10:39] <goldfish> hehe
[10:39] <mpq> yeah
[10:39] <goldfish> nice?
[10:39] <Deanodriver> i'd put in fat32 instead of vfat
[10:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> k. cool
[10:39] <mpq> but I need to set up my keyboard shortcuts
[10:39] <mpq> and I don't know how to do that
[10:40] <danko123456> whats the syntax for adding a user to a group?
[10:40] <jamie> Section "InputDevice"
[10:40] <jamie> 	Identifier	"Generic Keyboard"
[10:40] <jamie> 	Driver		"keyboard"
[10:40] <jamie> 	Option		"CoreKeyboard"
[10:40] <jamie> 	Option		"XkbRules"	"xorg"
[10:40] <johnnybe1ak> goldfish: do you know what switches i need to use?
[10:40] <jamie> 	Option		"XkbModel"	"pc104"
[10:40] <jamie> 	Option		"XkbLayout"	"us"
[10:40] <jamie> EndSection
[10:40] <jamie> Section "InputDevice"
[10:40] <Deanodriver> thanks a lot, i'll give it a try, and see if it works :)
[10:40] <jamie> 	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"
[10:40] <jamie> 	Driver		"mouse"
[10:40] <jamie> 	Option		"CorePointer"
[10:40] <jamie> 	Option		"Device"		"/dev/input/mice"
[10:40] <jamie> 	Option		"Protocol"		"ImPS/2"
[10:40] <jamie> 	Option		"Emulate3Buttons"	"true"
[10:40] <jamie> 	Option		"ZAxisMapping"		"4 5"
[10:40] <jamie> EndSection
[10:40] <jamie> Section "InputDevice"
[10:40] <goldfish> mpq: i've never used kde myself, must be a settings section somewhere u can do it
[10:40] <jamie>         Identifier      "Synaptics Touchpad"
[10:40] <jamie>         Driver          "synaptics"
[10:40] <jamie>         Option          "SendCoreEvents"        "true"
[10:40] <jamie>         Option          "Device"                "/dev/psaux"
[10:40] <jamie>         Option          "Protocol"              "auto-dev"
[10:40] <jamie>         Option		"HorizScrollDelta"	"0"
[10:41] <jamie> EndSection
[10:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> jamie thats a flood
[10:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> :| timeing
[10:41] <goldfish> LOL
[10:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
[10:41] <mpq> er
[10:41] <mpq> I can't find firefox
[10:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[10:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> mozilla-firefox
[10:41] <goldfish> aye
[10:42] <goldfish> run it from a terminal
[10:42] <goldfish> heh
[10:42] <goldfish> or set up a desktop shortcut
[10:42] <Q_Continuum> anyone know where the monitor's resolution is stored?
[10:42] <mpq> it loaded the old version
[10:42] <mpq> instead of 1.0
[10:42] <danko123456> thanks, I RTFm
[10:42] <danko123456> :)
[10:42] <mpq> I had a shortcut in gnome and now I can't find it
[10:43] <Deanodriver> just letting you know i got it working, thanks :)
[10:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> :) cool
[10:43] <Deanodriver> :0
[10:43] <Deanodriver> :)
[10:43] <Deanodriver> oops
[10:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> you didnt reboot did you?
[10:43] <Gir__> mpq, System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[10:43] <Deanodriver> i did
[10:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> you can do it from a terminal
[10:44] <Deanodriver> yeah?
[10:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> mounting/unmounting
[10:44] <mpq> I'm using KDE
[10:44] <Deanodriver> i know
[10:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> umount -a && mount -a
[10:44] <Deanodriver> but i wanted to have it done automatically whenever I booted
[10:44] <goldfish> jamie: welcome back
[10:44] <jamie> sorry about that
[10:44] <goldfish> :)
[10:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> when you add it to fstab, you just run mount
[10:44] <Gir__> mpq, when explore the Control Center
[10:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> and it does it
[10:45] <Deanodriver> cool, thanks :)
[10:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[10:45] <mpq> this is frustrating
[10:45] <goldfish> lol
[10:45] <mpq> I can't find firefox and I can't find the keyboard shortcuts
[10:45] <goldfish> Go back to gnome if u dont like it :)
[10:45] <jamie> pixil9: did you have any ideas?
[10:46] <goldfish> mpq: they are different enviornments, u'd have to set each one up.
[10:46] <goldfish> if u get me
[10:46] <jamie> mpq: usually gnome menu stuff is in a submenu in gnome
[10:46] <Q_Continuum> mmmkay simple question where is the xorg config file stored?
[10:46] <mpq> I'm not on gnome
[10:46] <Fator_Dee> Q_Continuum: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> then why ask here?
[10:47] <Q_Continuum> *sigh* I need to edit the monitor's resolution settings...where would I do that?  it's not in the xorg.conf file
[10:48] <jamie> Q_continuum: it is in that file, I  promise
[10:48] <goldfish> it should be
[10:48] <Q_Continuum> aHA!
[10:48] <Q_Continuum> they were at 1200x800.  should be 1280x800.  it didn't look quite right, but didn't look like 1024x768 either.
[10:48] <goldfish> lol
[10:48] <Q_Continuum> *logs out to restart x*
[10:49] <jamie> pixil9: I don't have an explicit load "synaptics" line
[10:50] <DmD> can anyone help me install the driver i have for my wireless NIC?
[10:50] <DmD> when i typed sudo ndiswrapper -l
[10:50] <DmD> it listed..
[10:50] <DmD> net8180 invalid driver!
[10:50] <DmD> which is the driver i downloaded for the nic
[10:54] <yahalom> can anyone help me with my xkb layout in xorg.conf?
[10:55] <jamie> yahalom: what do you need?
[10:56] <Q_Continuum> yaaay
[10:56] <Q_Continuum> I'm back to native res
[10:56] <yahalom> in my xorg.conf under keyboard input i changed xkblayout option "us" to "us,il" to enable a hebrew layout, but it doesnt do it
[10:57] <jamie> yahalom: that's not something I play with much, but perhaps you have to switch between them once enabled?
[10:57] <yahalom> jamie, in gnome it works, but i dont think gnome uses that option, does it? the issue is in xfce
[10:58] <goldfish> Q_Continuum: cool
[10:58] <jamie> yahalom, sorry, I have no clue then
[10:58] <yahalom> jamie, u iuse the xkb layout in xfce. it used to work on my previous ubuntu hoary, i did a fresh install.
[10:58] <danko123456> hey, if anyone wants to know...
[10:58] <yahalom> jamie, np. thanx:)
[10:59] <danko123456> I just installed that guy marc74
[10:59] <danko123456> the one with the issue
[10:59] <danko123456> :)
[10:59] <danko123456> the Java issue
[11:00] <danko123456> I was root on his comp
[11:00] <zerokarmaleft> danko123456, :)
[11:00] <danko123456> yup
[11:00] <danko123456> root@coyote:
[11:01] <danko123456> whats a good page for him to try out his java?
[11:02] <mpq> I found the keyboard shortcuts
[11:02] <mpq> but I can't find the one I need
[11:02] <danko123456> sweet
[11:02] <danko123456> which one?
[11:02] <mpq> volume control
[11:03] <mpq> right now the buttons on the keyboard don't do anything
[11:03] <zerokarmaleft> danko123456, http://www.babynamewizard.com/namevoyager/lnv0105.html
[11:03] <mpq> xchat isn't working right now
[11:03] <danko123456> that has Java pictures?
[11:03] <goldfish> xchat sucks !
[11:03] <mpq> it worked in gnome
[11:03] <danko123456> right on the front page, or on one of the links?
[11:03] <mpq> but now it's cutting off the end of everything
[11:04] <mpq> screw this, I'm switching back
[11:04] <zerokarmaleft> danko123456, right on the front page
[11:04] <Matyy> Hi, I need some help, I cannot boot from the Hoary install cd: http://phpfi.com/59723
[11:04] <zerokarmaleft> danko123456, of that link
[11:06] <mpq> how do I remove KDE?
[11:07] <cAsTeL> hi all
[11:08] <mpq> great
[11:09] <mpq> now there's a bunch of kde programs cluttering up the application list
[11:10] <yahalom> hi people. i downloaed all the hebrew languag packs, and usually that means i get hebrew, but now when i try to log in with hebrew it says he_IL-UFT-8 not found, using default (which is english). any ideas?
[11:10] <danko123456> thanks, zerokarmaleft
[11:10] <danko123456> I got it,..
[11:11] <mpq> how do I remove kde?
[11:11] <goldfish> mpq: apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop --purge
[11:11] <goldfish> but
[11:12] <goldfish> that might remove shit
[11:12] <goldfish> i'm not too sure
[11:12] <shad0w1e> question: how do I reset my volume control settings?
[11:12] <mpq> it only removed one file
[11:12] <goldfish> ok cool
[11:12] <goldfish> shad0w1e: reset?
[11:12] <goldfish> change?
[11:12] <shad0w1e> well i did something to my sound and its no longer right
[11:12] <goldfish> oh right
[11:12] <shad0w1e> i want to reset it to default
[11:13] <mpq> argh
[11:13] <goldfish> mpq: yes?
[11:13] <mpq> yes what?
[11:13] <goldfish> someting bad happen?
[11:13] <MightyF> is ubuntu pretty stable?
[11:13] <mpq> no
[11:13] <mpq> nothing happened
[11:13] <goldfish> shad0w1e: emm, i dunno, maybe run alsamixer from a terminal.
[11:13] <mpq> it only removed one file
[11:14] <goldfish> mpq: what file?
[11:14] <mpq> I don't know
[11:14] <mpq> but all the k programs are cluttering the application list
[11:14] <mpq> I don't want them
[11:14] <goldfish> MightyF: Emm, the breezy version?
[11:14] <yahalom> ok this sucks
[11:14] <Fator_Dee> the kubuntu/ubuntu-desktop is only a metafile
[11:14] <danko123456> yup, it sucks
[11:14] <Fator_Dee> it doesn't actually remove anything
[11:14] <mpq> so how do I delete everything else?
[11:15] <MightyF> goldfish, huh?  I'm planning on installing ubuntu hoary
[11:15] <goldfish> MightyF: oh right.
[11:15] <goldfish> MightyF: Yes, yes it is.
[11:15] <forsaker8k6> hi guys!! :P
[11:15] <goldfish> hello
[11:15] <Fator_Dee> well, I'm not sure if it's the right way, but I would just fire up synaptic and uninstall everything that has kde in it :-\
[11:15] <MightyF> goldfish, whats the breezy version?
[11:15] <goldfish> MightyF: the new one.
[11:15] <yahalom> i got my xfce panel back but lost my hebrew layout, how does that make sense?
[11:16] <goldfish> MightyF: It's only being developed right now like.
[11:16] <MightyF> goldfish, oh, its under development, like FC4
[11:16] <mpq> I don't use synaptic much
[11:17] <MightyF> does anyone have experience with getting centrino wireless to work with ubuntu?
[11:17] <forsaker8k6> well people.. i was wondering... what do you think about enlightenment? I was thinking to set it up on my box...
[11:17] <Fator_Dee> synaptic is not a difficult program to use
[11:17] <goldfish> MightyF: yes.
[11:17] <goldfish> MightyF: I'm on it right now.
[11:17] <mpq> I usually just use apt-get
[11:17] <MightyF> goldfish, so, its possible, is it easy?
[11:17] <danko123456> how do you remove a user command line?
[11:17] <goldfish> MightyF: yep.
[11:18] <goldfish> MightyF: Well, i had to use ndiswrapper.
[11:18] <MightyF> goldfish, ohhhhh, bummer.  In FC3 you use 3 RPMs and it works like a charm
[11:18] <goldfish> well that was in warty
[11:18] <goldfish> i think hoary has more compatibility with cards
[11:19] <MightyF> cool
[11:19] <forsaker8k6> mmm.. no ideas about enlightenment?
[11:19] <goldfish> never used it
[11:19] <goldfish> looks nice though in screenshots
[11:19] <forsaker8k6> :(
[11:19] <yahalom> how can i get this comman to be alt +shift or both alt keys together instead of both shift keys: setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:_toggle,grp_led:scroll us,il
[11:19] <yahalom> ?
[11:19] <forsaker8k6> well.. i'ltt have to try it by myself then :)
[11:20] <goldfish> best way :)
[11:20] <shad0w1e> well thanks peoepl
[11:20] <goldfish> danko123456: userdel?
[11:20] <shad0w1e> peace
[11:20] <MightyF> goldfish, its pretty slim, hoary is, yet bloated enough to be functional as a desktop.  It seems to make streamlining your system pretty easy
[11:21] <Gandalfar> Anyone with Breezy and Xinerama solved the gnome-panel bug (bug #10179) - gnome-panel does not honor xinerama
[11:21] <goldfish> heh
[11:22] <yahalom> plz?
[11:23] <danko123456> DENIED!!
[11:23] <danko123456> hehe
[11:23] <danko123456> jj
[11:23] <goldfish> :)
[11:24] <danko123456> Thats what a guy at work does.
[11:24] <goldfish> ACCESS DENIED !!
[11:24] <goldfish> hmm...
[11:24] <iso> <3
[11:24] <danko123456> >4
[11:24] <danko123456> :P
[11:24] <goldfish> That's from a film or somethiing...
[11:24] <danko123456> k, Im  off to bed,
[11:24] <hunger> Anyone got working libboost-dev debs?
[11:24] <goldfish> night
[11:24] <MightyF> i should go to bed too
[11:25] <goldfish> hehe
[11:25] <goldfish> i am in bed !
[11:25] <goldfish> but its morning here, better get up soon.
[11:25] <danko123456> I installed Java on marc74's computer.
[11:25] <mpq> I think I need to update
[11:25] <danko123456> I ssh'd, then I su'd...
[11:25] <mpq> how do I update?
[11:26] <danko123456> ANd then it was easy...
[11:26] <danko123456> UPdate what?
[11:26] <inv> hi all
[11:26] <mpq> ubuntu
[11:26] <iso> apt-get update
[11:26] <mpq> I don't think I'm on the latest release
[11:26] <goldfish> hmmm
[11:26] <goldfish> mpq: are u running hoary?
[11:26] <mpq> yeah
[11:26] <goldfish> well
[11:26] <mpq> but not the release version
[11:26] <rj-away> sudo apt-get update
[11:26] <danko123456> thats updated enough for now.
[11:26] <goldfish> yep
[11:27] <goldfish> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ?
[11:27] <MightyF> how is ubuntu for web, ftp, and samba servers?
[11:27] <iso> yes
[11:27] <iso> mightyf works sooper
[11:27] <danko123456> pertty good, MightyF
[11:27] <inv> ububntu packages now forked from debian unstable. now they're newest, like in debian. will it be in future. or versions of the packages will be lag from newest versions ?
[11:27] <MightyF> good, good
[11:27] <rj-away> Probably just as good as most other distributions?
[11:28] <MightyF> kk, i'm goin to bed
[11:28] <MightyF> gnite folks :)
[11:28] <goldfish> night MightyF
[11:28] <danko123456> night
[11:28] <MightyF> goldfish, thanks for answering my questions btw
[11:28] <goldfish> np
[11:28] <iso> i care more that it is well tested then if it's the newest version
[11:29] <iso> ...
[11:30] <forsaker8k6> mmm... enlightenment apt-getted... but... just a simple simple question...
[11:30] <inv> I agree with you. but I shold use only testing versions, but I want to have newest versions in unstable
[11:30] <forsaker8k6> how do i set up gdm to start an enlightenment session?
[11:30] <goldfish> forsaker8k6: at login screen
[11:30] <goldfish> click sessions
[11:30] <inv> I skeak about unstable versions
[11:30] <goldfish> choose enlightenment
[11:30] <inv> speak
[11:31] <inv> now, I'm using gentoo, but I don't like it, couse newest packages in too old
[11:31] <forsaker8k6> goldfish,  yep... there's no enlightenment session avaiable in session menu.. maybe i ahve to add it by myself?
[11:31] <hunger> How do I report a bug in ubuntu? The bugzilla.ubuntu.org is not responding to any request from me.
[11:31] <goldfish> forsaker8k6: jeez, hmmm, sorry, i wouldn't know :(
[11:31] <inv> not old, but some, but I need them
[11:31] <goldfish> forsaker8k6: don't think you hsould have to
[11:31] <goldfish> *should
[11:31] <iXappe> would ubuntu with XFce run fine on a G3 333 with 64 MB ram?
[11:32] <forsaker8k6> goldfish, ok thanks... i'll try to figure out what's going on ... :P
[11:32] <goldfish> hehe
[11:32] <goldfish> maybe someone else here has used it?
[11:32] <inv> not old = not all
[11:32] <goldfish> iXappe: slowly
[11:32] <goldfish> i'd say
[11:32] <goldfish> only one way to find out :)
[11:33] <pisuke> forsaker8k6: there's a program that comes with E that sets it up. can't remember the name
[11:33] <pisuke> forsaker8k6: have a look at /usr/bin
[11:33] <iXappe> goldfish: ok, a friend is asking cause his girlfriend got hold of that mac and it's running os 9
[11:34] <pisuke> forsaker8k6: using that program the default session was E
[11:34] <inv> bb all
[11:35] <forsaker8k6_> :|
[11:35] <iso> :| *pat pat*
[11:35] <kev0r> sup?
[11:37] <pisuke> forsaker8k6_: usr/bin/starte16 try that
[11:38] <forsaker8k6_> tnx i'll try
[11:39] <nxt> hello
[11:39] <Goonie> ok.. I just installed the gdesklet packages... how do I use them?
[11:40] <goldfish> em
[11:40] <forsaker8k6_> pisuke, i tryed /usr/bin/enlightenment.. and it seems to work... but how i set upo gdm to add an elnightenment session entry?
[11:40] <goldfish> Goonie: run gdesklets from a terminal
[11:40] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[11:40] <goldfish> it tells u what to run
[11:40] <da_bon_bon> why cant u play mp3s using the live cd ?
[11:41] <pisuke> forsaker8k6_ starte16 did that if i recall correctly
[11:41] <Choubaka> da_bon_bon: because it's not legal in all countries.
[11:41] <Goonie> goldfish~ I did and all I got was:
[11:41] <Goonie> goonie@goonielap:~ $ gdesklets
[11:41] <Goonie> Starting gdesklets-daemon...
[11:41] <Goonie> Connected to daemon in 3358 milliseconds.
[11:41] <Goonie> goonie@goonielap:~ $
[11:41] <eruin> Choubaka: it is
[11:41] <pisuke> forsaker8k6_: i did it on warty it sets up .xsession so the default session is E
[11:41] <Choubaka> eruin: No?
[11:41] <da_bon_bon> Choubaka, oh, i know the legal issues. but somewhere i read that ubuntu supports mp3 playback by defualt
[11:41] <goldfish> Goonie: hmm, crap, cant remember the command.
[11:42] <goldfish> Goonie: man gdesklets, it tells u the command to get the menu up, sorry i cant remember it off hand.
[11:42] <Goonie> goldfish~ np thx anyway :)
[11:42] <forsaker8k6_> tnx pisuke ... i'll try
[11:42] <eruin> Choubaka: the problem is that fraunhofer has a non-free-compatible license
[11:43] <da_bon_bon> eruin, then why do other distros like <* - fedora> support mp3 playback ?
[11:43] <Goonie> goldfish~ lol... there's a gui tool on the gnome applications menu :$
[11:43] <da_bon_bon> eruin, and such distros, they cant be called free software, then ?
[11:43] <pixil9> Goonie, Can you tell me how if you figure it out
[11:43] <goldfish> Goonie: LOL
[11:43] <Choubaka> so using gpl decoders would be against the licence?
[11:43] <goldfish> Goonie: Ah right, not using gnome, didnt know about that :)
[11:43] <pixil9> ah its in the menu
[11:43] <pixil9> under accessories
[11:44] <Goonie> pixil9~ after install go to applications - accessories
[11:44] <da_bon_bon> are there any gpl decoders for mp3, Choubaka, eruin ?
[11:45] <RTN> ouch...
[11:46] <RTN> UbuntuLinux sucks (just to get your attention) :)
[11:46] <da_bon_bon> RTN, ?
[11:46] <da_bon_bon> RTN, trolling!
[11:46] <hunger> RTN: Yeap, I agree.
[11:46] <da_bon_bon> hey, why does ubuntu hoary not have any package for openoffice2 beta ?
[11:47] <Choubaka> da_bon_bon: maybe OO2 wasn't considered stable enough for inclusion in Hoary.
[11:47] <RTN> I actually have a problem with the packages, reprositories and stuff also...
[11:47] <goldfish> hmm....
[11:47] <goldfish> Well.
[11:47] <RTN> We go to ubuntuguide.org...
[11:47] <goldfish> Your first comments are not a good way to get help.
[11:47] <goldfish> RTN: And?
[11:47] <da_bon_bon> Choubaka, :( man, atleast we should get a package. why should breezy dudes get everything great ?! :P{
[11:47] <snader> why don't you just ask your question.
[11:48] <RTN> did you read my fisrst comment untill the end of it.... :)
[11:48] <Choubaka> da_bon_bon: Never mind
[11:48] <Choubaka> it _IS_ in hoary.
[11:48] <Choubaka> openoffice.org2
[11:48] <da_bon_bon> then my apts crazy
[11:48] <Choubaka> universe/editors
[11:48] <da_bon_bon> OH soooo sorry
[11:48] <da_bon_bon> didnt enable multi uni verse
[11:48] <goldfish> RTN: yeah yeah, what's your problem?
[11:49] <pixil9> Well the weather desklet seems to broken
[11:49] <RTN> How to add extra reprositories? tells to add deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat stable main (&the company) to /etc/apt/sources.list file...
[11:49] <da_bon_bon> RTN, isnt it clear enough ?
[11:49] <_aBYss_> hello to everybody,
[11:49] <_aBYss_> does anyone know how to manage services in ubuntu (start/stop etc.),
[11:49] <_aBYss_> is there some tool/utility or everything is manual ?
[11:49] <RTN> nice. I have been doing that with other debian based distros also...
[11:49] <goldfish> wtf
[11:49] <da_bon_bon> RTN, nano /etc/apt/sources.list and add what u want!
[11:49] <marc74> hi all
[11:49] <pixil9> oops
[11:49] <goldfish> hi marc74
[11:49] <marc74> this is a great room
[11:49] <goldfish> It is.
[11:49] <marc74> goldfish, hi
[11:49] <Seveas> _aBYss_, /etc/init.s/$SERVICENAME (start|stop|reload)
[11:49] <da_bon_bon> RTN, or "echo <url> >> /etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:50] <RTN> see my outcome of sudo apt-get update...
[11:50] <pixil9> init.d
[11:50] <marc74> goldfish, met someone that got java runtime running for me
[11:50] <da_bon_bon> RTN, DONT PASTE HERE
[11:50] <goldfish> marc74: yeah, so he said.
[11:50] <da_bon_bon> RTN, rafb.net/paste
[11:50] <pixil9> ?? pastebin
[11:50] <uhelper> pastebin[x] : No defenition found for word.
[11:50] <pixil9> ?? past
[11:50] <uhelper> past[x] : No defenition found for word.
[11:50] <pixil9> ?? paste
[11:50] <uhelper> paste: Please paste large selections of text at - http://www.pastebin.com - Thanks.
[11:50] <Seveas> da_bon_bon, echo "deb url dist sections" >> /etc/apt/sources.list you mean :)
[11:50] <marc74> goldfish, that is a friend
[11:50] <pixil9> lol
[11:50] <da_bon_bon> hey, is there no java packages for ubuntu :( ?
[11:50] <RTN> ouch... just remembered that removed the lines from the files...
[11:50] <pixil9> ?? jre
[11:51] <uhelper> jre: To simply enable java in firefox see - http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#jre -OR- If you wish to install java as a package please download the 'java-package' through synaptic or apt-get. Proceed by downloading the JRE linux bin from http://java.sun.com/ (either 1.4.2 or newer). Use the command 'make-jpkg linux1.4.2.bin' as an example. Then install with 'dpkg -i linux1.4.2.deb'
[11:51] <marc74> goldfish, i thought he left though
[11:51] <goldfish> marc74: ah right, yeah he went to bed.
[11:51] <forsaker8k6> yup yup i'm enlightened
[11:51] <RTN> thank you for all the help.  CANNOT get Hoary to install, it always fails with "Could not retrieve BSDutils". I've tried redownloading from adiffernet mirror, some Bittorrent waty, nothing worked. My MD5sums are ALWAYS differnet. 'm tearing my hair out.
[11:53] <da_bon_bon> rixth, some = my way
[11:53] <goldfish> marc74: but he added an account to /etc/passwd with uid 0 gid 0,i.e root :)
[11:53] <da_bon_bon> :)
[11:53] <rixth> da_bon_bon, Indeed
[11:53] <da_bon_bon> rixth, the iso is not bad then
[11:53] <marc74> goldfish, oh i should check that out
[11:53] <rixth> I've also tried another CD drive
[11:53] <marc74> goldfish, how do i get a usser list?
[11:53] <goldfish> marc74: then ssh'd in and turned off my computer, coz i kicked him from irc :)
[11:53] <da_bon_bon> rixth, why is it trying to fetch from net in the first place ?
[11:53] <marc74> user*
[11:53] <goldfish> marc74: emm
[11:53] <_aBYss_> thanx seveas, but is there a graphical config tool or a monitor tool or something? (for services i mean)?
[11:53] <_aBYss_> thanx anyway
[11:53] <da_bon_bon> rixth, did u allow it to fetch u updated packages durring insatall ?
[11:54] <goldfish> marc74: look through /etc/passwd ?
[11:54] <marc74> can anyone help here?
[11:54] <rixth> da_bon_bon, it's not! I downloaded the ISO (i386 install disc) and the MD5s don't match.
[11:54] <marc74> ok gold
[11:54] <goldfish> marc74: my friend was only messing though, i got it all sorted
[11:54] <goldfish> i hope :)
[11:54] <da_bon_bon> rixth, then its a problem with the iso
[11:54] <rixth> da_bon_bon, I don't even get that far.  I've used Fedora, Redhat, Knoppix, Suse & Debian
[11:55] <goldfish> lol
[11:55] <RTN> Dear Mr/Ms/Mrs da_bob_bon,
[11:55] <marc74> hunger, i'll try
[11:55] <rixth> da_bon_bon I can't figure it out.
[11:55] <marc74> root shell?
[11:55] <goldfish> hunger: list off user accounts on the computer he means.
[11:55] <nxt> tnx rix
[11:55] <RTN> I pasted the output of apt-get update into the web address you provided...
[11:56] <da_bon_bon> rixth, hmm.. i want to say that if it is ur first time, then sorry for bad experience
[11:56] <marc74> i gave access to someone
[11:56] <hunger> goldfish: Oh... those logged in at the moment or all accounts?
[11:56] <rixth> da_bon_bon first time with Ubuntu!
[11:56] <goldfish> all accounts
[11:56] <marc74> wanna know if they made an account
[11:56] <da_bon_bon> RTN, mr. ... and paste the url of the page where u see ur pasted output
[11:56] <marc74> i can do who all day long
[11:56] <da_bon_bon> rixth, even rsync didnt work ?
[11:56] <hunger> goldfish: cat /etc/passwd should work then.
[11:56] <RTN> http://rafb.net/paste/results/bRJDAL16.html
[11:56] <goldfish> aye
[11:56] <RTN> good enough...
[11:56] <RTN> it is a standard error message...
[11:56] <goldfish> marc74: yes, as i thought, look through /etc/passwd
[11:57] <snowblink> rixth, bad burn - I had a bunch of those
[11:57] <marc74> he made it so i can just type in su and have root
[11:57] <goldfish> lol
[11:57] <goldfish> that's a bit dangerous
[11:57] <marc74> what else did he do
[11:57] <goldfish> no idea
[11:57] <da_bon_bon> RTN, read the wiki - search for "apt authentication"
[11:57] <marc74> maybe i should reinstall eh?
[11:57] <goldfish> marc74: no
[11:57] <da_bon_bon> RTN, your sources.list is perfect
[11:57] <goldfish> marc74: do you know him in real life yeah?
[11:57] <RTN> thnx. i knew i had done something wrong...
[11:57] <marc74> goldfish, no
[11:57] <eruin> da_bon_bon: fedora _doesn't_ support mp3 out of the box
[11:58] <goldfish> marc74: i see.
[11:58] <marc74> goldfish, he helped me install java runtime
[11:58] <eruin> very few distros do due to potential legal problems
[11:58] <da_bon_bon> eruin, i know it doesnt. hence i mean - * minus fedora
[11:58] <goldfish> marc74: oh right
[11:58] <marc74> if i reinstall i lose that
[11:58] <da_bon_bon> RTN, u did nothing wrong. its fucking apt and fucking marillat
[11:58] <rixth> snowblink, I've tried 3 different burns (from ISOs from different mirrors) I'm using a good quality burner with good discs. i cant see why it should keep failing! snowblink, the MD5 sum's differ.
[11:58] <amichai> what is all this mp3 support stuff? i dont get it. what does it mean? obviously not that it m3 cant be played, can someone clear that for me
[11:58] <marc74> goldfish, what do i do?
[11:58] <rixth> It should be pointed out that I'm burning theses ISO's from Windows XP
[11:59] <RTN> wrong = i could not find it myself from wiki... ;)
[11:59] <marc74> goldfish, can i get a user list?
[11:59] <da_bon_bon> RTN, www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/ AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary
[11:59] <pixil9> RTN: ur burner is borked
[11:59] <RTN> where do i send the beer? :)
[11:59] <da_bon_bon> rixth, xp cant be a problem. nero ?
[11:59] <marc74> /usr/passswd?
[11:59] <da_bon_bon> pixil9, u mean rixth
[11:59] <goldfish> marc74: no
[11:59] <snowblink> rixth, Yeah, had the same. I tried on lots of different machines too. You could try slowing the speed, but ultimately it took a friend posting me a CD
[11:59] <marc74> goldfish, i'm root
[11:59] <goldfish> marc74: nano /cat/passwd
[11:59] <da_bon_bon> snowblink, same here :D
[12:00] <goldfish> marc74: run that in a terminal
[12:00] <da_bon_bon> rixth, rsync bittorrent are perfect and _must_ work
[12:00] <marc74> my ip is static
[12:00] <RTN> da_bon_bon, If I get this working now, you will have a stong marketing force on board... :)
[12:00] <marc74> what is nano?
[12:00] <da_bon_bon> RTN, heh, it just cost u 10,000 bucks for the help :P
[12:00] <da_bon_bon> RTN, a check would be fine
[12:00] <Fator_Dee> marc74: console text editor
[12:00] <snowblink> rixth, don't know if mounting it as an ISO is a possibility for you.
[12:00] <goldfish> marc74: nano is a text editor.
[12:01] <marc74> maybe i can just do a ls in the usr dir
[12:01] <marc74> eh?
[12:01] <rixth> da_bon_bon, I've tried the ISO Recorder powertoy and Alcohol 120%. There's this one app I used for all my Debian ISOs, BurnCDCC, that complainged that the ISo wasn't valid
[12:01] <goldfish> marc74: no
[12:01] <marc74> emacs and vim are my editors
[12:01] <da_bon_bon> rixth, try nero ?
[12:01] <marc74> for linux
[12:01] <Fator_Dee> marc74: what are you trying to do?
[12:02] <rixth> da_bon_bon, I'll give it a go. Don't like my chances because the MD5s are differnet.
[12:02] <hunger> Anyone got /usr/include/boost/config.hpp for me? It is missing in the debs:-(
[12:02] <guruff> hi; why do i need anacron(cron or whataver it is called) anyhow ?
[12:02] <da_bon_bon> rixth, i am still surprized that md5 are different. turn of all antivirus
[12:02] <da_bon_bon> ?
[12:02] <goldfish> marc74: ok
[12:02] <marc74> i'm trying to find out if someone i gave access to my shell made an account that has root access
[12:02] <da_bon_bon> maybe it is messing the iso ?
[12:02] <da_bon_bon> or mark the iso as read only
[12:02] <da_bon_bon> the moment u d'ld it, rixth
[12:02] <goldfish> marc74: want me to have a look?
[12:02] <Fator_Dee> marc74: look the /etc/sudoers file maybe?
[12:02] <hunger> marc74: grep ":0:" /etc/passwd
[12:02] <Q_Continuum> 3 cheers for 700MB of packages to install over wide-open wifi! lol
[12:02] <snowblink> rixth, your MD5s differ after you download or after you burn?
[12:03] <marc74> i can give you limited account gold
[12:03] <Fator_Dee> or system -> administration -> users and groups?
[12:03] <hunger> marc74: If that gives more than one line starting with "root" then you might have trouble.
[12:03] <da_bon_bon> RTN, did it work ?
[12:03] <rixth> Oh man. I am such a dolt. I downloaded a Ubuntu iso (definatley corrupt) it was 678mb, I had it on the desktop. I downloaded a new one. But the whole time, I was buring the 678mb one.  (From Ubuntu hopefully)
[12:15] <Goonie> goldfish~ in gdesklets shell... it should be enough to double click a desklet in the list right?
[12:20] <hunger> How do I report a deb in universe to be broken? The debian one works fine by the way.
[12:20] <bob2> use malone
[12:21] <bob2> launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/
[12:21] <RTN> would someone explain to me what is wrong with the apt-get stuff ....
[12:21] <snowblink> hunger, #motu?
[12:21] <RTN> I got that you need to go through some authentication thingie...
[12:21] <hunger> snowblink: What is #motu?
[12:22] <hunger> bob2: Oh, no! not malone!
[12:22] <Riddell> #ubuntu-motu
[12:22] <RTN> terve, petteri!
[12:22] <Fackamato> t
[12:22] <pixil9> wtf heh
[12:23] <eruin> anyone know a kate replacement for gnome?
[12:24] <hunger> bob2: malone never works for me!
[12:24] <lapo> hi there
[12:28] <RTN> let's start it all over...
[12:28] <RTN> anybody listening?
[12:28] <RTN> UBUNTU SUCKS!!!
[12:28] <RTN> to  add some places into /etc/apt/souces.list
[12:28] <pixil9> RTN, you suck
[12:28] <Goonie> RTN~ why?
[12:28] <RTN> what do you do?
[12:28] <RTN> why: to get your attention.
[12:28] <pixil9> RTN, edit it with pico?
[12:29] <tiggggr> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:29] <RTN> allright, edited it with vi...
[12:29] <lapo> let see how xchat ignore lisyt works...
[12:29] <AvvY> lol
[12:29] <RTN> apt-get update gives errors...
[12:29] <AvvY> RTN: are u running the AMD64 version?
[12:29] <RTN> nope...
[12:29] <RTN> the usual ...
[12:30] <AvvY> RTN: you should check your sources list entries and make sure they are correct
[12:30] <RTN> i took the usual and added kde...
[12:30] <RTN> seee....
[12:30] <AvvY> kde...bah
[12:30] <pixil9> ?? repository > RTN
[12:30] <RTN> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main
[12:31] <RTN> that's the one giving me the error.... one moment...
[12:31] <Goonie> RTN~ did you add the pgp key for marillat ?
[12:31] <RTN> Err ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable Release.gpg
[12:31] <RTN>   Could not connect to ftp.nerim.net:21 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused) [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 21]
[12:32] <RTN> allright... how do i add the pgp key for marillat.
[12:32] <eruin> hunger: it's not that it doesn't work, but more that nobodys tracking it, atleast atm
[12:33] <snowblink> RTN can you connect to ftp.nerim.net from command line?
[12:33] <RTN> OT: what does the marillat mean actually...
[12:33] <RTN> connect from command line... mean like ping?
[12:33] <hunger> eruin: It does not work, dunno why.
[12:34] <snowblink> RTN, can you ftp to it?
[12:34] <pixil9> RTN, I gave you the link. It's step #6.
[12:35] <hunger> eruin: So what should happen now?
[12:35] <RTN> i cant ftp to it...
[12:35] <snowblink> RTN, then it's another problem, not apt
[12:35] <migunal> is it possible to make a shortcut to nautilus, but to be run as root (with password prompt) on the gnome menu ?
[12:36] <RTN> pixil9... what link....
[12:36] <RTN> is there anything network administrator can do without me knowing it to disable my apt-get stuff...
[12:37] <hunger> That is a security issue!
[12:37] <pixil9> ?? repository
[12:37] <uhelper> repository: To enable extra repositories please visit http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#repositories (backports & marillat) or if you just wish to enable ubuntu repositories you may go into synaptic package manager --> Settings --> Repositories --> Remove all --> Re-add using the Add button.
[12:37] <pixil9> that one.
[12:37] <hunger> RTN: Block the servers?
[12:37] <snowblink> pixil9, he may be blocked
[12:37] <RTN> I mean... I could boot another computer nearby with another debian distro... bet you 5 it's gonna work... we really don't have a network administrator here...
[12:37] <pixil9> probably.. you don't need the key
[12:38] <snowblink> RTN do you have a firewall that blocks FTP?
[12:38] <RTN> FT
[12:38] <RTN> ftp works...
[12:38] <migunal> you guys ? how do i make a program ask for password from gnome ?
[12:38] <RTN> we got firewall... but now...
[12:39] <RTN> when i think about it... some guy came in here like two days ago and was fiddeling something with firewall and traffic and stuff...
[12:39] <RTN> stop.... i'll test with another computer different distro...
[12:40] <pixil9> RTN, ok we're stopped
[12:47] <rottis> hello
[12:48] <pixil9> hi.
[12:48] <yahalom> hi
[12:49] <Q_Continuum> pixil9: ping
[12:49] <Q_Continuum> lol
[12:50] <jono> hi all
[12:50] <yahalom> hi jonathaN
[12:50] <yahalom> hi jono
[12:50] <jono> is there a way to run a seperate X server in a window? I want to play with some development X.org stuff
[12:51] <yahalom> hi jonathaN anyway :)
[12:51] <hunger> jono: xnest
[12:51] <hunger> jono: A nested xserver.
[12:51] <jono> hunger, ahhh cool
[12:54] <marc74> when you remove a user, why doesn't it remove thier directorie(s)
[12:54] <marc74> and files
[12:54] <RTN> Just to wake you up again....
[12:54] <RTN> UBUNTU SUCKS!!!
[12:54] <RTN> thank you for your attention...
[12:54] <RTN> I could not find any computer at the moment for testing..
[12:55] <marc74> rmdir or what to do that?
[12:55] <AirWays> Where I can configure Apache in my Ubuntu?
[12:55] <marc74> shell
[12:56] <RTN> + config files
[12:56] <snowblink> AirWays, /etc/apache2
[12:56] <marc74> how do you remove directories?
[12:56] <Fator_Dee> marc74: rm -r directoryname
[12:56] <Fator_Dee> marc74: or rmdir directoryname if it's empty
[12:56] <marc74> fabbione, thanks
[12:57] <Fator_Dee> :-\
[12:57] <marc74> Fator_Dee, thanks
[12:57] <AirWays> Ih tnaks
[12:57] <RTN> got the answer ftp is closed by network administrator..
[12:57] <marc74> fabbione, typo
[12:57] <AirWays> httpd.conf ?
[12:57] <marc74> Fator_Dee, thanks
[12:57] <snowblink> AirWays, what do you want to do?
[12:58] <Fator_Dee> marc74: np
[12:58] <marc74> Fator_Dee, i'm still trying to lean bash
[12:58] <AirWays> Well, set my httpd directory
[12:58] <marc74> learn even
[12:58] <AirWays> Where is my all html files ,P
[12:59] <snowblink> AirWays, look at sites-enabled
[12:59] <AirWays> Not apache2.conf ?
[12:59] <marc74> Fator_Dee, is rm -r a fail safe way?
[12:59] <amichai> ok xkb layout is crashing my xfce panel, any ideas?
[12:59] <Fator_Dee> marc74: if you know what you are deleting, then yes
[12:59] <marc74> Fator_Dee, what if there are files there?
[12:59] <poningru> guys where can I find 64bit ubuntu
[12:59] <poningru> please help
[01:00] <Bazzi> ubuntulinux.org ;)
[01:00] <AvvY> lol
[01:00] <snowblink> AirWays, personally, I would edit my default site in sites-enabled/available
[01:00] <Fator_Dee> marc74: it's safe way to remove files
[01:00] <AvvY> poningru: its the AMD64 version
[01:00] <snowblink> marc74, rm -i if you want to be asked
[01:00] <poningru> what
[01:00] <marc74> Fator_Dee, ok, i don't wanna remove stuff that i don't wanna
[01:00] <AirWays> well, I want to first director on apache is : /home/petteri/html/
[01:01] <poningru> doh
[01:01] <poningru> ok thanks
[01:01] <marc74> i don't wanna do damage
[01:01] <AvvY> poningru: yes you are :P
[01:02] <marc74> is it like kinda saying in dos del <dir>
[01:02] <lapo> is gnome-vfs support brokern in oo.o2 too?
[01:02] <snowblink> marc74, man rm
[01:03] <marc74> snowblink, ok i'm following you there
[01:03] <AirWays> I put my HTML files to /etc/apache2/sites-available/ directory?
[01:03] <snowblink> AirWays, no
[01:03] <marc74> snowblink, but the default seems damaging
[01:03] <AirWays> Then?
[01:03] <snowblink> marc74, set up an alias
[01:03] <AirWays> Oh
[01:03] <snowblink> AirWays, read the README
[01:03] <marc74> you guys remember dos?
[01:03] <AirWays> /var/www/apache2-default/ <-- ..
[01:03] <AirWays> Well, how I can start apache?
[01:04] <marc74> kinda like the shell
[01:04] <snowblink> marc74, alias rm='rm -i'
[01:04] <marc74> snowblink, wtf?
[01:04] <snowblink> marc74, help alias
[01:04] <marc74> snowblink, ok
[01:04] <marc74> snowblink, i'll do that
[01:05] <snowblink> AirWays, like any other service
[01:05] <marc74> snowblink, i have so much to learn
[01:05] <AirWays> Jeah
[01:06] <marc74> linux is so powerful though
[01:06] <Q_Continuum> it is...
[01:06] <Q_Continuum> so VERY powerful.
[01:06] <marc74> yes
[01:06] <Fator_Dee> but it's not difficult deleting things from the command line
[01:06] <marc74> so powerful you might have to reinstall it
[01:06] <Q_Continuum> easy to learn, difficult to master.
[01:06] <Q_Continuum> lol yes marc very very true.
[01:07] <marc74> hahaha Q
[01:07] <marc74> if you fork up
[01:08] <Q_Continuum> hehe
[01:08] <Q_Continuum> you're toast.
[01:08] <Q_Continuum> I've done it.
[01:08] <marc74> i still type dir in the shell
[01:08] <snowblink> marc74, you probably won't make the same disasterous mistake twice in your life.
[01:08] <Q_Continuum> lol
[01:08] <marc74> though ls works better
[01:08] <Q_Continuum> I've done dir once or twice myself
[01:08] <Q_Continuum> then I go DOH
[01:08] <Q_Continuum> and do an ls -l
[01:08] <marc74> works in ubuntu
[01:08] <marc74> and some other dists
[01:09] <marc74> doh like homer?
[01:09] <Q_Continuum> yeah.
[01:09] <Q_Continuum> and sometimes I even hit myself on the head.
[01:09] <marc74> snowblink, yeah true
[01:09] <marc74> snowblink, just saying it is possible
[01:09] <snowblink> marc74, sure, but you'll remember the next time. ;)
[01:09] <marc74> snowblink, oh yeah
[01:10] <marc74> i'm still learning the basics though
[01:11] <marc74> but i know how powerful root is
[01:11] <marc74> or su
[01:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> root
[01:11] <marc74> any linux experts here?
[01:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> su just lets you change users
[01:12] <Kamping_Kaiser> probably lots, just none here right now
[01:12] <marc74> anyone?
[01:12] <qweqw> expert?
[01:13] <qweqw> what do you need
[01:13] <snowblink> marc74, what's your question?
[01:13] <Q_Continuum> hahaha
[01:13] <marc74> forget the expert part
[01:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> will 'user" do?
[01:13] <marc74> this is a pm question
[01:13] <Kamping_Kaiser> 490 then ;)
[01:13] <marc74> anyone not a noob like me?
[01:13] <marc74> hahahahahhaa
[01:14] <qweqw> ask the question in the channel, ya freak
[01:14] <Fator_Dee> well, depends how expert one has to be
[01:14] <marc74> ok i will
[01:14] <marc74> just paranoid
[01:14] <qweqw> you're wearing your tinfoil hat, right?
[01:14] <marc74> but someone came on and installed jre for me, thanks much
[01:15] <marc74> and changed how i can log onto root
[01:15] <qweqw> you're letting some irc luser access your machine
[01:15] <marc74> no pass
[01:15] <qweqw> that's not smart
[01:15] <marc74> i can reinstall everything
[01:15] <Fator_Dee> but still
[01:15] <qweqw> so change the root passwrd
[01:15] <roberto> hi all
[01:15] <marc74> did
[01:15] <roberto> i need help with menu
[01:16] <roberto> i dont know edit meenu
[01:16] <marc74> you think i'm gonna tell someone that pass
[01:16] <marc74> but how can i change the su feature?
[01:16] <roberto> plz help
[01:17] <roberto> gnome 2.10 no have option with right click
[01:17] <marc74> can you log on your terminal as a usesr and get root priv by just typing su
[01:17] <qweqw> do you have /etc/sudoers
[01:17] <snowblink> qweqw, he may have enabled the root account
[01:17] <marc74> no
[01:18] <AirWays> How I can restart Apache?
[01:18] <qweqw> are yo sure, Marble2
[01:18] <qweqw> marc
[01:18] <snowblink> AirWays, /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[01:18] <marc74> not unless it is hidden
[01:18] <AirWays> Oka thanks
[01:18] <qweqw> try it as root
[01:18] <marc74> ok
[01:18] <roberto> guys i need you help with menu
[01:18] <roberto> plz
[01:19] <marc74> no no such file or direcory
[01:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> ?
[01:19] <qweqw> wtf
[01:19] <qweqw> do you have sudo installed
[01:19] <marc74> guess not
[01:19] <qweqw> ...
[01:19] <snowblink> marc74, you're not making sense
[01:20] <marc74> where should it be?
[01:20] <marc74> maybe i tyop'd
[01:20] <AirWays> Damn
[01:20] <AirWays> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[01:20] <AirWays> It doesnt shutdown :P
[01:20] <qweqw> ls /etc/sudo*
[01:20] <marc74> give me the exact locatoin
[01:20] <snowblink> AirWays, did you use sudo?
[01:20] <AirWays> :D
[01:21] <AirWays> Never remember ;P
[01:21] <AirWays> Thanks
[01:21] <Fator_Dee> roberto: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#menu-editor have you tried that?
[01:21] <marc74> fuck
[01:22] <qweqw> well
[01:22] <roberto> yes i install but not remove the tux kart
[01:22] <qweqw> don't allow root logins
[01:22] <marc74> anyone want some trivial access to my comp?
[01:23] <snowblink> marc74, no, and you shouldn't offer it
[01:23] <roberto> menu-editor dont work
[01:23] <qweqw> it's not trivial unless you are running a virtual machine or something like that
[01:23] <marc74> snowblink, this is not root access
[01:23] <snowblink> marc74, so?
[01:24] <qweqw> it's much easier to exploit a system if you have access to it
[01:24] <qweqw> they are called local exploits
[01:24] <qweqw> there's a ton of them
[01:24] <qweqw> just saying
[01:25] <qweqw> don't trust people on the internet
[01:25] <qweqw> dek
[01:26] <qweqw> definetely do not allow root logins with no password if you are running a server that is wide open to the internet
[01:26] <Fator_Dee> maybe it would be best to reinstall and let this be a lesson
[01:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> how many ppl here run servers off their boxes?
[01:27] <qweqw> nothing will learn ya like screwing up
[01:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> qweqw. finding a good guru helps
[01:30] <Abood> hi all
[01:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[01:32] <Abood> guysss, yesterday i added a repos and the ubuntu told me that there r updates so i updated the packages, since its finished its started install and suddenly crashed and gaved me error, i rebooted the pc and now it gives me error xserver i did many things to get it back but dosent work, any idea ?!
[01:32] <Fator_Dee> what repos you added?
[01:32] <Abood> ftp.nerim.net
[01:33] <Fator_Dee> mixing = not good
[01:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> re do upgrade
[01:33] <snowblink> is nerim setup for hoary?
[01:33] <Choubaka> no.
[01:33] <Choubaka> you could try ubuntu backports.
[01:34] <Abood> i configued the xserver but when i eneter the grapical its opens a terminal window with that error msg " There was error creating child process for this terminal" and when i close it it log out by it self :S
[01:35] <eruin> anyone have an eclipse repository?
[01:35] <Fator_Dee> you should keep the non-ubuntu repos enabled only temporarily so that kind of things won't happen
[01:35] <Abood> i saw the syslog and get many errors oe of them " Running the Xkeeps crashing script"
[01:36] <Abood> guys i need a solution any body have an idea, or i must reinstall ubuntu again ?!
[01:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> try apt-get upgrade
[01:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> using official mirrors of some sort
[01:37] <Kamping_Kaiser> i use my ISPs
[01:37] <snowblink> Abood, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:37] <Abood> im on damn xp, well more idea to reboot and try
[01:37] <Abood> snowblink i reconfigued the xserver well :) but its crashing dude
[01:38] <snowblink> Abood, check your sync rates
[01:38] <Abood> also did
[01:38] <onno> small question, I'm on two networks. And I the mail server changes for each network. Is it possible to assign all request for ip x to ip x and how do I do that?
[01:38] <Abood> Kamping_Kaiser well i will try aptget upgrade and come back, brb all
[01:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> k
[01:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> good luck
[01:39] <Insom> i have just installed new hoary and i can't log on as a root user.... when i try to run login screen setup or any other manager that needs root privileges it just tells me that my password is wrong, and this is my third attempt to install the damn thing, so i know i didin't get the password wrong :(.. any suggestions?
[01:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> insom. you in the first account?
[01:39] <onno> Your root is the same as your user
[01:39] <snowblink> Insom, use your own password
[01:39] <onno> you need to use sudo
[01:39] <onno> do man sudo
[01:39] <Insom> kamping.. jes
[01:39] <Insom> yes
[01:40] <Insom> snow i did
[01:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> did you do a custom install?
[01:40] <Insom> what is the default password for root account?
[01:40] <Sticky> just use the same password as your user, then passwd root (once you get in to root) and make a new password
[01:40] <snowblink> Insom, root account is locked
[01:40] <Sm4sh> why graveman dont blank the cds?
[01:40] <Insom> snow, how do i unlock it?
[01:40] <snowblink> Insom, you don't. Use sudo
[01:41] <Insom> snow the sam thing
[01:41] <Insom> won't let me
[01:41] <Sticky> Insom: just use the same password as your user to get in, then type "passwd root" and change your password
[01:41] <Insom> sticky: i did.. nothing
[01:41] <Sticky> do this
[01:41] <Insom> this is frustrating
[01:42] <Sticky> which window manager are you using? so I can help you with screenshots lol
[01:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> if you create a root passwd things go awol :O!
[01:42] <snowblink> Insom, what are you trying to run?
[01:42] <Sticky> no they dont Kamping_Kaiser
[01:42] <Insom> login screen manager
[01:42] <Sticky> lol
[01:42] <Predius|sleep> "sudo passwd rot"
[01:42] <Sticky> use your user account to login that way
[01:42] <Predius|sleep> "sudo passwd root"
[01:42] <Insom> network manager, u name it.. nothing!
[01:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> they have on all the boxes we added root passwords to
[01:42] <Sticky> hes at the login place lol
[01:42] <Insom> sudo passwd root
[01:43] <Sticky> Insom: PM me and I'll help you
[01:44] <Q_Continuum> what's the command to override architecture on dpkg installs?  (i386 package on amd64)
[01:44] <AirWays> application/x-httpd-php <-- Opera want to save that file when I connect to my apache server ::P there is only index.php file
[01:44] <AirWays> Whyt?
[01:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> nothing asocieated wtiht PHP
[01:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> *with
[01:45] <AirWays> So what I should do ?
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> airways. is this your server? or a remote box?
[01:46] <RTN> will you forgive me and try again on monday..... just because i  will install ubuntu on  all the compputers available over the weekend.....
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> yours. just checked your psot ;)
[01:46] <AirWays> Apache running on other computer...
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> *post
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> install php support
[01:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> apt-cache search php
[01:46] <AirWays> Okhy
[01:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> then apt-get install php-apache-module or somthing like taht
[01:47] <Raskall> will this work as a wifi hotspot gateway? my lan server (ubuntu) behind my ipcop fireway gets a wifi usb dongle. I unplug the wlan access point from the lan switch. I set up a dhcp-server to listen only on the usb-dongle. Known mac's get a dhcp-lease with default gateway. unknown clients do not get def gw, but are presented with a redirected page telling them to call or mail me to get access.
[01:47] <AirWays> python-htmltmpl - Templating engine for separation of code and HTML
[01:47] <AirWays> python2.3-htmltmpl - Templating engine for separation of code and HTML
[01:47] <AirWays> Those?
[01:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> no
[01:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> just a tic airways
[01:47] <Raskall> I also set up a shorewall firewall on the usb dongle in the server.
[01:47] <AirWays> tic?
[01:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> tic == moment
[01:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> tic of the clock
[01:48] <AirWays> :D
[01:48] <AirWays> Okay
[01:48] <Q_Continuum> grrrr.
[01:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> airways, try apt-get install php4
[01:49] <AirWays> E: Couldn't find package php4
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> :|
[01:50] <Sm4sh> how i can play audio/video streaming?
[01:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> airways. its there, you might need universe
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> sm4sh. from where?
[01:51] <AirWays> amm, what you mean?
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> php4 - server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> in your /etc/apt/sources.lst
[01:51] <AirWays> Okay...
[01:51] <AirWays> a...
[01:52] <AirWays> What about that "/etc/apt/sources.lst" ?
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> but i dont know where packages are. i have them all enabled....
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> thats where to make sure its enabled.
[01:52] <AirWays> How I can enable all those?
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:53] <AirWays> Yeah
[01:53] <AirWays> And thne+
[01:53] <AirWays> apt-get source /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:53] <AirWays> Or?
[01:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> no
[01:53] <AirWays> What then?
[01:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:53] <AirWays> And then?
[01:53] <Sm4sh> Kamping_Kaiser, im trying to play video streaming with Totem in Firefox,I use too vlc and xine
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> sm4sh, check you have gstreamer (iirc)
[01:54] <AirWays> Kamping_Kaiser: what about that sources.list ?
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> airways, # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> remove the #
[01:55] <Lwolf> hi, need some help, i've installed modutils , put into it alias wlan0 prism2_usb restarted modutils, make a depmod -a , but still : modprobe wlan0 say that wlan0 module is not known...someone can help me ?
[01:55] <AirWays> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 4.10 _Warty Warthog_ - Preview i386 Binary-1 (20041020)] / unstable main restricted
[01:55] <AirWays> I have warty
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> then use warty :) i have breezy
[01:55] <tonquin> hi everyone, hey my sound is limping but will play waves. won't record.  skype hangs etc etc.   i've got a lame onboard via 8233 sound chip  (works with Mepis)  any hints on how to get skype working with this?
[01:55] <AirWays> :D
[01:55] <Q_Continuum> well, I get reamed AGAIN for going amd64 >.<
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> airways, comment out the cdrom
[01:56] <AirWays> I put # to front of that lineN?
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> tonquin, i dont remember hte fix off the top of my head. check the site :O
[01:56] <Q_Continuum> yeah
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes
[01:56] <Sm4sh> Kamping_Kaiser, i installed totem-xine and w32codecs
[01:56] <AirWays> And what then?
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> sm4sh install gstreamer... i think thats what you need
[01:57] <ismael_> what about mplayer on ubuntu ?
[01:57] <CarlK> tonquin - get a new VoIP app ;)  here is a great place to start looking: www.voip-info.org/
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> airways, add "universe" onto the lines like the one i showed you
[01:57] <AirWays> Okay...
[01:58] <tonquin> Kamping_Kaiser:  anywhere in particular..i have looked in the past ...didn't see an obvious reference.
[01:58] <AirWays> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu universe
[01:58] <AirWays> Like that?
[01:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes
[01:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> do one for updates and security as well
[01:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> tonquin.
[01:58] <Q_Continuum> Grrrr......I HATE binary drivers.
[01:58] <eruin> what should plugin_home be set to for java? anyone know?
[01:58] <AirWays> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_warty_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> it can be got from apt. not sure where it is (universe etc)
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> whats up q_c?
[01:59] <Q_Continuum> Airways: do a "sudo apt-get update"
[01:59] <thoreauputic> eruin: see the guide on http://ubuntuguide.org
[01:59] <AirWays> Okay
[01:59] <Q_Continuum> sl-modem drivers dont' work on amd64 >.<
[01:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> :(
[01:59] <Q_Continuum> hard-coded to the i386 kernel
[01:59] <eruin> cheers thoreauputic :)
[02:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> ffs
[02:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> bad luck q_continuum
[02:00] <eruin> thoreauputic: err, well, it's not there
[02:00] <Q_Continuum> posted my output to #flood
[02:01] <AirWays> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:01] <AirWays>   php4: Depends: libmm13 but it is not installable
[02:01] <thoreauputic> eruin: what isn't there? The path you need?
[02:01] <AirWays>         Depends: apache-common (>= 1.3.31) but it is not installable
[02:01] <AirWays> E: Broken packages
[02:01] <eruin> thoreauputic: I'm talking java itself - don't wanna have icky java stuff in my browser ;-)
[02:01] <Q_Continuum>  sl-modem-modules-2.6.10-5-386 depends on linux-image-2.6.10-5-386; however:
[02:01] <Q_Continuum>   Package linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 is not installed.
[02:01] <eruin> thoreauputic: yeah, I just searched that page for plugin_path.. not there
[02:01] <AirWays> Whats wrong..?
[02:01] <thoreauputic> eruin: you want to *remove* the plugins?
[02:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> airways, your apaches needs updating
[02:01] <AirWays> How I can update it =D
[02:02] <eruin> thoreauputic: I dont have the plugins. java_vm is complaining about plugin_path not being set - I need to know what its suppsed to point at ;)
[02:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> q_c. install it
[02:02] <rottis> how can i get mysql work in my apache?
[02:02] <thoreauputic> eruin: ah i see - well I don't know the answer to that one, sorry
[02:02] <eruin> thoreauputic: thanks for trying tho ;)
[02:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> airways. im not sure which servers "normal" people use, i use my isps mirrors, and they arnt confusing like the others ;)
[02:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> rottis. could you have  make a less helpfull question?
[02:03] <rottis> hmm
[02:03] <rottis> how do i get mysql then
[02:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> apt or synaptic
[02:04] <Q_Continuum> *posts the sl-modem amd64 thing to the forums*
[02:04] <ztonzy> hi
[02:04] <ztonzy> what do I need under KDE to change fontsize and themes for GTK apps ??
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> ztonzy. #Kubuntu
[02:04] <ztonzy> Kamping_Kaiser, sorry... I thought I was in that channel :D
[02:04] <ztonzy> haha
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> bbs ppl :)
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[02:05] <ztonzy> Kamping_Kaiser, I have that channel loaded as well
[02:05] <Leppiz> hi, how can i tell esd to use second sound card as an amarok option?
[02:06] <AirWays> How I can put FTP to that Apache?
[02:06] <Ferkel> hi all... i neeed help!! ive downloaded the Ubuntu v.5.04! the install CD!! i had burn it on a CD but it isnt a boot disk...!! i cant install it!!
[02:07] <propagandhi> Ferkel: what program did u burn it with
[02:07] <Ferkel> i had deamon tools to emulate the .iso!! then i burned it wit clone cd!!
[02:07] <AirWays> Maybe burned it too fast ;P
[02:08] <AirWays> Amm
[02:08] <AirWays> How I can start irssi
[02:08] <Ferkel> which program should i take to burn the .iso??
[02:08] <thoreauputic> AirWays: type irssi in a terminal or console tty
[02:08] <AirWays> Nothuing
[02:09] <propagandhi> Ferkel: do u have any other burning software such as nero or Easy CD creator or similar
[02:09] <thoreauputic> AirWays: then it isn't installed
[02:09] <Ferkel> yeah.. nero!, alcohol 120%, clone CD, Fireburner!!
[02:09] <thoreauputic> Ferkel: burn as image
[02:09] <Ferkel> wih nero
[02:10] <Ferkel> ?
[02:10] <Sticky> you ubuntu developers should include sshd ffs, and gcc!
[02:10] <thoreauputic> Sticky: gcc is on the CD
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> isnt it on the hdd, but not installed?
[02:10] <thoreauputic> Sticky: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:10] <Sticky> But its not installed by default, and 90% of everyone who uses ubuntu is noobs
[02:11] <thoreauputic> Kamping_Kaiser: possinle
[02:11] <Sticky> thoreauputic: I know, I'm not a noob
[02:11] <thoreauputic> haha
[02:11] <thoreauputic> possible i meant
[02:11] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:11] <queuetue> Sticky, I would definitly *not* agree that 90% of Ubuntu users are new to linux...
[02:11] <thoreauputic> Sticky: well, my mind reading is not up toi scratch today, sorry ;-)
[02:11] <Sticky> most of the ones I met lol
[02:11] <propagandhi> Ferkel: I use Nero or K3B if linux available - never failed so far when burning ISO's
[02:11] <Funraiser> does someone use nget?
[02:12] <queuetue> Sticky, I would agree that a large number of people who ask questions are new.
[02:12] <Sticky> queuetue: you missed my point
[02:12] <Sticky> and I dont feel like explaining it
[02:13] <queuetue> Sticky, Sounds like a win for both of us. :)
[02:13] <thoreauputic> Sticky: and it's openssh-server  for sshd - but since you aren't a newb you knew that of course
[02:13] <Sticky> thoreauputic: Yes I know
[02:13] <thoreauputic> Sticky: great
[02:13] <Sticky> thoreauputic: I was just putting it as "sshd" for those who dont know :P
[02:13] <Sticky> since it is an ssh daemon
[02:14] <Sticky> but anyways back to helping Insom
[02:15] <elekis> hi, I need help
[02:15] <elekis> I try to install my scanner whois a hp scanjet 5p
[02:16] <elekis> there 's worked on debian unstable but here, I have some trouble
[02:16] <yccheok> hi
[02:16] <Ferkels_grosses_> hi
[02:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[02:16] <Ferkels_grosses_> sorry my PC shut down
[02:16] <Ferkels_grosses_> shit
[02:16] <yccheok> can anyone see wat i am typing??
[02:16] <Ferkels_grosses_> yes yccheok!!
[02:16] <elekis> yccheok --> yes
[02:16] <thoreauputic> yccheok: no, it's invisible here
[02:17] <elekis> how to learn a module sg on the boot??
[02:17] <elekis> heu how start a module on boot
[02:17] <elekis> ?
[02:17] <thoreauputic> elekis: put it in /etc/modules
[02:17] <Ferkels_grosses_> oke!! i will burn ubuntu again... with nero!! burn the image file!! should i accept the CD fixing??
[02:17] <elekis> thanks wait
[02:17] <yccheok> i was wondering why .bash_profile does not work in ubuntu
[02:18] <yccheok> it work in fedora :(
[02:18] <elekis> and modprobe sg to start it now???
[02:19] <Ferkels_grosses_> can anyone help me pls??
[02:19] <Ferkels_grosses_> for a boot cd!! should i fix the cd rom?
[02:19] <elekis> is it a iso??
[02:19] <Ferkels_grosses_> when i will burn a .iso file??
[02:19] <Ferkels_grosses_> yeah
[02:19] <elekis> no
[02:19] <Ferkels_grosses_> not fix??
[02:20] <dcraven> yccheok: .bash_profile does work in Ubuntu.
[02:20] <elekis> me,  I didn't fix
[02:20] <Ferkels_grosses_> k thx
[02:20] <elekis> but try
[02:20] <elekis> it's the best way
[02:20] <dcraven> elekis: yes, modprobe will load the module now.
[02:20] <Ferkels_grosses_> ok
[02:21] <elekis> so now, the prob is  I start xsane
[02:21] <oz__> hi all - does anyone know if the gnome right click menu edit problem has been fixed?
[02:21] <Ferkels_grosses_> i am a newbie with ubunto.. so does the programm download works like in KDE?? with apt-get install *****
[02:21] <elekis> and , I don't know why, but he scan on my tv aqcuisition cart
[02:21] <AvvY> yes
[02:21] <dcraven> oz__: There is no menu editing in GNOME 2.10. Not until 2.12. Is that the problem you are referring to?
[02:22] <elekis> erkels_grosses_ -> therorikly yes
[02:22] <yccheok> dcraven: i bet it doesnt.
[02:22] <Riddell> Ferkels_grosses_: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:22] <oz__> ahh.. yep. thanks dcraven
[02:22] <yccheok> dcraven: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1889.html
[02:22] <elekis> I reboot
[02:22] <dcraven> oz__: There are third party editors available in the forums, do a search for "menu editor" there.
[02:23] <Ferkels_grosses_> ok what should i know... whats important to know about ubuntu?? where can i get a list with commands??
[02:23] <oz__> dcraven: excellant. thanks
[02:23] <dcraven> yccheok: If it doesn't, then I'm gonna have to start typing all of these alias' and settings that are in my bash_profile, by hand...
[02:23] <yccheok> dcraven: i found out oledi. use ~/.gnomerc if we are login through GNOME DESKTOP MANAGER
[02:24] <RTN> ouch... got to do some work...
[02:24] <dcraven> yccheok: I don't have a .gnomerc
[02:24] <yccheok> dcraven: add "source ~/.bash_profile" in .gnomerc. i should rock
[02:24] <RTN> ubuntu helps of course...
[02:24] <yccheok> dcraven: just create one in ur home directory if it doesnt
[02:25] <dcraven> yccheok: But why? My .bash_profile is functioning fine.
[02:27] <elekis> ih again
[02:27] <solomarv> elekis, 'ello
[02:27] <elekis> I have a other probleme, I don't know why but when I boot (and reboot) my computer,  gimp is lauched two times
[02:28] <yccheok> dcraven: hem... not sure. but most of the feedback i surf through the net is that .bash_profile doesnt work. if i work for you, feel happy on it ;)
[02:28] <elekis> and xsane to
[02:28] <solomarv> elekis, login through console, and remove your ~/.gconf* and ~/.gnome*
[02:29] <zxc> anyone know how to unistall realplayer?
[02:29] <elekis> wao , are you sure??
[02:29] <dcraven> yccheok: all mine does is source my ~/.bashrc, enable bash completion, and call xbindkeys. It appears to do all three.
[02:29] <solomarv> zxc, was it installed by apt?
[02:29] <elekis> I il try
[02:30] <zxc> solomarv, no
[02:30] <solomarv> elekis, yeah, that's the rough way of doing it :-D
[02:30] <solomarv> zxc, was it installed in a separate dir, like /opt?
[02:30] <zxc> solomarv, yes
[02:31] <solomarv> zxc, remove the dir and possible /usr/share/applications/real*.desktop
[02:38] <eruin> wow
[02:38] <eruin> eclipse is really great
[02:39] <SiRrUs> hello
[02:39] <elekis> so thanks, thats work
[02:39] <elekis> so now, my scanner problem
[02:39] <elekis> how can I see if ubuntu see my scanner??
[02:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> graphics -> xsane -> should say your scanner on the screen
[02:42] <Lightboy> hey all i was just wondering if i get the j2re off the official sun website will it work with amd64 warty ?
[02:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> have to look :| i dont konw
[02:43] <Lightboy> so was that to me kamping_kaiser?
[02:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> yes
[02:43] <elekis> I have nothing, in fac when I lauch scan he scan on my aquisition tv card input
[02:43] <shane_> anyone run vmware?
[02:43] <elekis> it's a scsi scanner
[02:44] <elekis> And I mont sure it see it
[02:44] <Lightboy> hmm does n e one else know if the official linux J2re works on amd64
[02:46] <elcu> hello, could someone please post their monitor section of xorg.conf in#flood?
[02:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> elcu. what do you need it for?
[02:47] <elekis> wait
[02:47] <elcu> Kamping_Kaiser, i can't raise my resolution and i forgot what the attribute names for horizontal and vertical refresh rates were.
[02:47] <elcu> :)
[02:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> run dpkg-reconfigure
[02:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[02:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> elekis. are you posting it or shal i?
[02:47] <migunal> is there a program to view images in which i can view all images from a folder ?
[02:48] <hypno> elcu: HorizSync and VertRefresh
[02:48] <elcu> migunal: gqview is pretty good.
[02:48] <elcu> hypno: thanks.
[02:48] <Lightboy> can n e one help install Java on Warty AMD 64??
[02:49] <shane_> anyone have any experiance with vmware or wine?
[02:49] <verden01> i just installed ubuntu on a 160Gb hd and decided to let ubuntu do the partitioning and i have ended up with a 3.1Gb swap partition  is this normal?
[02:49] <migunal> elcu, that works, thx :)
[02:50] <hypno> verden01: pretty big but okay
[02:50] <elekis> two sec
[02:50] <elekis> http://rafb.net/paste/results/Q4Hp6I29.html
[02:50] <AvvY> its too big
[02:50] <elcu> migunal: np.  it's my favourite image viewer
[02:50] <verden01> k
[02:50] <AvvY> its just wasted space. u dont need anything more than 512mb
[02:50] <elekis> I forgot the paste sit
[02:51] <verden01> can i resize my swap partiton without cuasing any problems
[02:51] <hypno> AvvY: you should have around 2x of the ram size
[02:51] <AvvY> hypno: not for linux. win needs that. linux needs very little
[02:51] <hypno> AvvY: you sound as if you know what you're talking about yet don't :)
[02:52] <CarlK> verden01 - yes
[02:52] <AvvY> hypno: i only go by what many people have told me, and they are faily knowlegable about linux, so id stand by what they have said
[02:52] <hypno> AvvY: depends on whether you like seeing out of memory errors when you want to edit huge images or play games
[02:53] <CarlK> 2x ram assumes you need as much ram as you have.   ram is so cheap now that most people have way more than they need
[02:53] <eruin> http://appelsinjuice.org/eclipse.png :)
[02:53] <DBill1> shane - ouch! - have you used qtparted? - might be a good place to store an iso or two - you could even boot from them by changing grub.
[02:53] <AvvY> hypno: i have never noticed ANY problems with a 512mb swap in either FC3, Suse9.1 or Ubuntu
[02:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> avvy. depends what you use the box for
[02:54] <eruin> hypno: I've got 512mb swap, and it's never been used -although I do alot of 64mb+ image editing and play games thru cedega
[02:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> infact everyone: it depends what you use the box for
[02:54] <CarlK> otoh, 2x ram assumes a limited amount of disk space, and now most people have way more disk than they need too.  so these 2 things almost cancel each out out, except for one thing
[02:54] <verden01> CarlK, how would i reduce the size of my swap aprtition?
[02:54] <Pupe> HEY!
[02:54] <AvvY> yeah, and for general use, 512mb is sufficient.
[02:55] <Pupe> THIS SITE HAVE PORNOGRAF OF CHILDREN! http://www.soulservers.com.ar
[02:55] <AvvY> of course if u do hi-end stuff you will require more resources, that goes without saying.
[02:55] <CarlK> the result is: it is way less important to get the amount of swap "just right"
[02:55] <eruin> someone kick Pupe in the arse
[02:55] <AvvY> i agree
[02:55] <abood> hey Kamping_Kaiser i fixed it and now im on ubuntu :) i used "dpkg -configure -a "command
[02:55] <CarlK> verden01, swapoff, fdisk
[02:55] <Pupe> Help me
[02:55] <eruin> go away Pupe
[02:55] <DBill1> verden - use qtparted - ubuntu's stringent security measures make it difficult from the installed version though. - i have been using knoppix
[02:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> abood :) cool. well done
[02:55] <Pupe> this site http://www.soulservers.com.ar public porno of my daughter
[02:55] <verden01> so i can put the free space into my root partition?
[02:56] <hypno> AvvY: shrug. Depends on what you do. I have 740mb ram, and with a few normal apps open i have 550 mb used (excluding caches). Since hard disk space is cheap I figure you might as well leave yourself plenty of breathing room.
[02:56] <AvvY> Pupe: wtf?
[02:56] <eruin> daniels: could you remove Pupe?
[02:56] <Pupe> help me
[02:56] <CarlK> verden01 - noone said you could make another partition larger - that is the hard part
[02:56] <verden01> :)
[02:56] <AvvY> hypno: fair enough. i never notice much of my swap used when having multiple apps open myself. altho i have 1024mb of ram anyhow
[02:56] <verden01> i'll leave it then
[02:56] <abood> Kamping_Kaiser,  i dont know man, im feeling that my machine collect many errors im afraid again to update :)
[02:56] <Pupe> http://www.soulservers.com.ar help me to kill thats bastard
[02:57] <AvvY> can someone PLEASE kick Pupe
[02:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> :) abood.
[02:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> dont worry, just dont to stupid stuff
[02:57] <DBill1> no - that would corrupt the partitiion table you can shrink or change the type but it can't grow any larger unless it is near a parttition you are willing to delete and rewrite.
[02:57] <Pupe> fuck... you guys :(
[02:57] <elcu> AvvY: ignore him
[02:57] <AvvY> elcu: yeah, i will. its just fuckin stupid tho.
[02:58] <CarlK> Pupe - this is not the place for that
[02:58] <elcu> AvvY: true.
[02:58] <Pupe> i call to the police and they say nothing
[02:59] <AvvY> omg... wtf is with trolls?
[02:59] <DBill1> W/M 23.   any horny females here? - Just kidding
[02:59] <DBill1> i was kifdinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn - lol
[02:59] <AvvY> ...
[02:59] <CarlK> pupe - try #politics - seems like those people may have some ideas for you
[02:59] <inc> the troll should just kill himself
[02:59] <DBill1> aw jeez maybe i should just take a ap.
[03:00] <Fator_Dee> evolution will handle it, lets just ignore him
[03:00] <CarlK> apt-get install apache2 php4  - where is the "max file upload size" php setting set?
[03:00] <inc> lol Fator_Dee
[03:00] <inc> in php.ini
[03:02] <CarlK> inc 0- thanks
[03:03] <UnreA|L> what gnome desktop size
[03:03] <UnreA|L> ?
[03:03] <Fator_Dee> you are not making sense
[03:04] <Seveas> UnreA|L, what do you mean>>
[03:04] <eruin> I'd guess resolution
[03:04] <UnreA|L> fluxbox size about 1mb
[03:04] <Ferkels_grosses_> hmmm gnome 300kb!!!
[03:04] <eruin> fluxbox isnt a de
[03:04] <Seveas> UnreA|L, do you mean memory consumption?
[03:04] <eruin> so you can't really compare the two
[03:04] <Seveas> or disk consumption?
[03:04] <Seveas> indeed
[03:04] <eruin> gnome is probably around 300MB
[03:05] <UnreA|L> i have kde and i dont like kde
[03:05] <UnreA|L> i want download gnome
[03:05] <Ferkels_grosses_> *g*
[03:05] <Seveas> UnreA|L, then dump kde and use gnome
[03:05] <eruin> UnreA|L: you running ubuntu?
[03:05] <UnreA|L> how download gnome ?
[03:05] <UnreA|L> i runing ubuntu
[03:05] <UnreA|L> i runing kubuntu
[03:05] <Seveas> UnreA|L, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:05] <eruin> then run "sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop"
[03:05] <eruin> err, ubuntu-desktop
[03:05] <eruin> sorry
[03:05] <UnreA|L> and i want have gnome desktop
[03:05] <eruin> :P
[03:05] <eruin> do that UnreA|L
[03:06] <shane_> ubuntu rocks ^_^
[03:06] <UnreA|L> okey...;)
[03:06] <eruin> (/me cheers happily in the background - another convert!)
[03:06] <Ferkels_grosses_> :D
[03:06] <elcu> how does ubuntu-desktop work again?
[03:07] <Seveas> elcu, it is a meta packages, it depends on the packages that make up a nice ubuntu system
[03:07] <jsgotangco> its a meta package that's supposed to point the stuff you need
[03:07] <shane_> awsomely i kicked windows out the door
[03:07] <Seveas> shane_, nice :)
[03:07] <shane_> now i need to get one game to run in vmware
[03:07] <jsgotangco> just like if you get kubuntu-desktop you get all the stuff you need for kubuntu in your ubuntu esktop
[03:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> shane. vmware will be slow
[03:07] <shane_> and it won't :(
[03:08] <shane_> i know
[03:08] <Ferkels_grosses_> sorry.. is there a german ubuntu irc channel???
[03:08] <Seveas> #ubuntu-de
[03:08] <shane_> but the game i wont to run is lightside legend ragnarok www.clownphobia.com
[03:08] <shane_> and it won't detect the vid card in vmware
[03:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> its the vmware vid card
[03:08] <shane_> i don't wanna switch back to microcrap wannabe secure
[03:09] <ikaro> mojn
[03:09] <shane_> how do i fix it?
[03:09] <Ferkels_grosses_> omg about 30peoples in #ubuntu-de
[03:09] <Ferkels_grosses_> hehe
[03:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> shane. try running through wine or cedega
[03:10] <elcu> shane_: or dualboot just for games.  that's the only reason i use windows now.
[03:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> or check vmwares config for a way to bipass the default card for your real card
[03:10] <shane_> i have wine just don't know how to install the game into it