[03:16] <Kyral> God I love Tab-Complete :D
[03:16] <snooze> airreson: sudo apt-get install xmms to be on a good way
[03:17] <snooze> Kyral: don't say that :)
[03:17] <Kyral> snooze: Huh?
[03:17] <Kyral> Tab-Complete owns :D
[03:17] <frogzoo> airreson: amarok is also very nice
[03:17] <snooze> Kyral: it's bad when there is your ex girlfriend in the same channel as the guy you want to tell that sex with her was good :)
[03:17] <nick01> amphi, in ata/atapi/mfm/rll ?
[03:17] <snooze> Kyral: and she is kalled kati and your friend is called kyrai e.g. :)
[03:17] <Pablo> Kyral, that file does nto seem to exist
[03:18] <snooze> Kyral: it can be really dangerous, don't say that :)
[03:18] <barry> Hello. Are there any grub experts here?
[03:18] <sevtastic> hey all. i'm having problems with getting thunderbird 1.5 running. i downloaded 1.5 from their site and installed it, but i'm getting these errors upoon trying to run it: http://pastebin.com/555334
[03:18] <elkbuntu> snooze that would depend how lazy you are :P
[03:18] <snooze> barry: experts propably not 8)
[03:18] <frogzoo> barry: I know a bit, wassup?
[03:18] <andrew_> why cant I get XMMS in ubuntu? ???
[03:18] <tonyyarusso> !tell sevtastic about thunderbird1.5
[03:18] <Pablo> Kyral,  so in /home/mynamehere/.xinitrc ??
[03:18] <snooze> elkbuntu: a lot, i'm using ubuntu! :)
[03:18] <Kyral> Pablo: yah
[03:18] <andrew_> !XMMS
[03:18] <Pablo> ok thanks
[03:18] <ubotu> [xmms]  to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[03:18] <sizzam> i need help getting the 'denyhost' daemon to run at boot-time, can someone help me understand the instructions starting from line 13 to line 15  here:   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8678
[03:18] <tonyyarusso> sevtastic: The wiki has pretty explicit directions that might help.
[03:18] <meshe> what's the package you need to install to switch from kubuntu to unbuntu (basically need gnome)
[03:18] <snooze> ESOUND?
[03:18] <elkbuntu> snooze lol
[03:18] <Kyral> ....damn the Entry is OLD
[03:19] <tonyyarusso> meshe: ubuntu-desktop
[03:19] <snooze> that's sortof BAD workaround!
[03:19] <frogzoo> cripes people get choosy - they want free support, but they want experts ;)
[03:19] <airreson> snooze,  go to linux-laptops.com and look up thinkpad 770, i need to do the listed directions to fix sound, but it doesnt work xD
[03:19] <meshe> ahh, thx tonyyarusso
[03:19] <sevtastic> tonyyarusso: i followed that verbatim
[03:19] <snooze> airreson: no i will not :)
[03:19] <andrew_> no, i need it to run in ubuntu breezy
[03:19] <sevtastic> i'm running a 64bit kernel if that makes any difference.
[03:19] <andrew_> uh
[03:19] <tonyyarusso> sevtastic: Ah, 'k.
[03:19] <snooze> airreson: have to carry up my own cross at the moment, sry
[03:19] <snooze> airreson: :)
[03:19] <Pablo> brb
[03:19] <andrew_> does anyone here know anything about getting XMMS for ubuntu???
[03:19] <airreson> snooze,  o ok :)
[03:19] <Kyral> andrew_: sudo apt-get install xmms
[03:19] <Kyral> !info xmms breezy
[03:20] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 979 kB, Installed size: 7216 kB
[03:20] <frogzoo> !info amarok
[03:20] <ubotu> amarok: (versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE), section kde, is optional. Version: 2:1.3.1-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5191 kB, Installed size: 13888 kB
[03:20] <nick01> how do I get rid of that unable to mount root fs on unknown block error ? both ide and fs support is in kernel :(
[03:20] <snooze> ah, irssi is installed by default?
[03:20] <barry> snooze, frogzoo: thanks. I have a box that had XP on it. I chucked a second hard drive in it with linux and a large fat32 partition. The thing is, I never get to play on that box. My wife is always there. And I need the ahrd drive space back.
[03:20] <grim76> Is there a dapper repo for the w32codecs?
[03:20] <Kyral> nick01: yousa on your own
[03:20] <purpleheart_USMC> anyone know how to configure the weather applet in GNOME?
[03:20] <_jason> grim76: use PLF
[03:20] <snooze> barry: so where's the problem?
[03:20] <Kyral> nick01: Which is usually the case with Kernel Compiles ;D
[03:20] <meshe> what
[03:20] <meshe> er what's xubuntu-desktop?
[03:20] <snooze> barry: grub should be set up correctly to multi boot all the os'es after installing ubuntu!
[03:21] <grim76> _jason thanks I appreciate it.
[03:21] <barry> frogzoo: So, I used qtparted from a boot CD and wiped the linux partitions. (D'oh!) Now when I try to boot the box, I get an error 17 from Grub.
[03:21] <Kyral> meshe: XFCE :D
[03:21] <SeyToN> can install quicktime ?
[03:21] <Kyral> !xubuntu
[03:21] <ubotu> hmm... xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[03:21] <snooze> barry: at least it was the case with THIS system and it rocks!
[03:21] <airreson> xfce is amazing it looks so good too
[03:21] <snooze> SeyToN: yes you can!
[03:21] <barry> (Instead, I have ubuntu on a laptop I have full access to.)
[03:21] <SeyToN> wicked
[03:21] <snooze> SeyToN: you just need to install the necessary codecs
[03:21] <nick01> Kyral, do I laso need stats in /proc/fs or extended attributes ? cause that I leaved out
[03:21] <snooze> SeyToN: but don't ask me what they are called :)
[03:21] <meshe> thx :)
[03:21] <Mordof> how hard would it be for me to install dapper drake currently if i had the space?
[03:21] <Kyral> nick01: Maybe...find out :P
[03:21] <barry> snooze, frogzoo: I'm trying to turn the main box back to just an XP box, but now it won't even boot.
[03:22] <nick01> :(
[03:22] <Mordof> dual boot with ubuntu
[03:22] <snooze> brb, have to start up KDE! :)
[03:22] <Kyral> Mordof: why would you?
[03:22] <airreson> snooze,  ok its installed
[03:22] <Mordof> breezy
[03:22] <snooze> barry: ughm
[03:22] <SeyToN> that means i got running thro mplayer?
[03:22] <Kyral> Mordof: are you ready for it?
[03:22] <Mordof> Kyral, to try out xgl
[03:22] <sevtastic> tonyyarusso: any other ideas to get thunderbird running?
[03:22] <Mordof> Kyral, most likely not
[03:22] <Kyral> Mordof: Xgl is eh
[03:22] <snooze> barry: THEN you got a real goddamn problem! :)
[03:22] <Kyral> Mordof: wait for it
[03:22] <frogzoo> barry: I'm guessing xp's 'fixmbr'
[03:22] <snooze> barry: you got 2 ways of doint it.
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> sevtastic: This is just a guess, but maybe look around the filesystem and see if you can symlink one way or the other between XFree86 and Xorg fonts.
[03:22] <barry> I'm all ears, snooze.
[03:22] <snooze> barry: 1. rewriting the MBR with windows, - 2. kick up XP by grub.
[03:22] <andrew_> oh wow, ty very much Kyral
[03:23] <andrew_> bye!
[03:23] <snooze> barry: if you want a correct entry for grub menu.lst, i can paste you :)
[03:23] <barry> I'd love that, snooze.
[03:23] <yanimax> meshe?
[03:23] <snooze> barry: uhm allright, but it boots up a windows on a completely different disk, keep that in mind 8)
[03:23] <snooze> barry: i'll paste it to your query, ok?
[03:24] <heatxsink> anyone know why divx5 codecs dont' work in Xine in dapper?
[03:24] <barry> Windoze is on the primary drive. Linux was on othe second drive, but has now been wiped.
[03:25] <bigmoe> what is the program that opens rar files
[03:25] <barry> snooze: I'm sure pasting it to my query will be fine, if you can tell me what that means :^)
[03:25] <catchphrase> okay this isn't just a coincidence, loading up a flash website (www.leadtek.com.tw) froze my computer again
[03:25] <grim76> _jason, do I need to use the Hoary repo or is there something I am missing for dapper?
[03:26] <snooze> barry: then you should get absolutely no problem if you set up your primary bios boot device correctly it should just boot.
[03:26] <_jason> grim76: w32codecs are just a bunch of windows dll's.  I believe it makes no difference
[03:26] <snooze> barry: i guess there is no problem and you just try booting the wrond harddisk.
[03:26] <snooze> s/wrond/wrong/
[03:26] <_jason> grim76: you can just download the deb directly and install as well
[03:27] <JDigital_> What lets Windows use ext2?
[03:27] <frogzoo> catchphrase: guessing you need a vid driver update
[03:27] <beniamino> are breezy kernels really compiled using gcc-3.4?
[03:27] <snooze> barry: if you did'nt screw up the MBR of that windows disk while you installed linux on the same disk, it should be still bootable from that disk without changing anything :)
[03:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell JDigital_ about explore2fs
[03:27] <snooze> beniamino: i think so, yes.
[03:27] <barry> snooze: Forcing a setting in the bios should circumvent grub?
[03:27] <JDigital_> thankee
[03:28] <beniamino> snooze: but everything else is gcc-4, right?
[03:28] <frogzoo> !winext2
[03:28] <ubotu> winext2 is, like, http://www.fs-driver.org/ or http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd
[03:28] <bigmoe> can anyone tell me what is the program that opens rar file or installing a package
[03:28] <catchphrase> frogzoo- perhaps. it's a geforce2pro and i haven't installed nvidia drivers yet.
[03:28] <snooze> barry: exactly, you got the point :)
[03:28] <frogzoo> catchphrase: that would be the right move
[03:28] <snooze> brb in 3min
[03:28] <bimberi> !rar
[03:28] <ubotu> somebody said rar was a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[03:28] <JDigital_> _jason++
[03:28] <frogzoo> barry: you can'
[03:29] <barry> frogzoo: I'm listening...
[03:29] <CosmoDad> anyone else noticed that if two users are logged in (using two X servers) and you insert a cdrom, it sometimes gets mounted with the other user's rights? any way to fix that?
[03:29] <frogzoo> barry: you can maybe set the bios to boot of a certain disk - and ignoring the disk with grub - but depends on bios
[03:30] <_jason> CosmoDad: sounds like a bug, file a report
[03:30] <barry> frogzoo: I'm looking at the bios now. The order is the CD, the floppy, and the IDE Hard Drive. The hard drive is pointing to the drive with windoze on it already.
[03:30] <grim76> _jason, thanks for the help I appreciate it.
[03:30] <CosmoDad> _jason: where'd I do that?
[03:30] <_jason> grim76: do you know where to get the deb?
[03:31] <_jason> ubotu: tell CosmoDad about malone
[03:31] <Hysty> CosmoDad: maybe you could remove the second users rights to access the cdrom?
[03:31] <frogzoo> barry: but does that disk have a boot loader? if not, the bios will check the other drive
[03:31] <grim76> _jason, I just did a wget to dl the deb and installed it that way.
[03:31] <snooze> yeah, finally irssi :)
[03:31] <_jason> grim76: ah ok
[03:31] <barry> snooze: Welcome back.
[03:31] <snooze> barry: re :)
[03:31] <CosmoDad> Hysty: no, I need the other user to be able to mount cdroms as well
[03:31] <barry> frogzoo: How do I tell?
[03:31] <snooze> gotta get another beer, then i'm really ready to go! :)
[03:32] <CosmoDad> Hysty: I just need to have the cdrom mounted as the user currently using the PC... don't know if that's easy to handle
[03:32] <barry> snooze: Just told frogzoo that the bios are already set to boot (1) CD (2) floppy (3) the hard drive that holds windoze.
[03:32] <Hysty> CosmoDad: you may have to disable the automounting of the cdrom drive
[03:32] <frogzoo> barry: well you can boot linux & try 'dd if=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 | grep od -c'  & see if it looks like a bootloader
[03:32] <CosmoDad> Hysty: no
[03:32] <airreson> can someone help me? the sollution to this problem is that a module need to be loaded... but every time i use modprobe it has errors
[03:33] <snooze> frogzoo: nice point
[03:33] <barry> frogzoo: At the moment, I can only boot from the CD.
[03:33] <CosmoDad> Hysty: I want it to automount, I just want it to work correctly
[03:33] <tEoti> how do you upgrade to dapper withouth using an install cd? or live cd?
[03:33] <CosmoDad> _jason: what package would you suggest to file the bug in: hal, hotplug?
[03:33] <tEoti> is it possible?
[03:33] <scam> anyone know how to fix the muting problem i got.. when i click mute only my front speakers mute.. my surrounds stay active
[03:33] <_jason> CosmoDad: erm, I don't know.  Just use your best judgement I guess
[03:33] <frogzoo> barry: don't see what the big deal is - just run xp's fixmbr & done
[03:34] <Mordof> scam, alsamixer.. maybe you have to change some settings? i dunno
[03:34] <barry> frogzoo: That's from the XP install disk?
[03:34] <Mordof> scam, any chance you could help me get my surround working though?
[03:34] <CosmoDad> _jason: ok
[03:34] <scam> Mordof, sure what snd card?
[03:34] <frogzoo> barry: yup
[03:34] <Mordof> scam, how do i find that out? i forget off hand
[03:34] <_jason> Dtragcoen: did it stay that way?  mine does that for a few seconds
[03:34] <barry> frogzoo: Groovy. I'll try that.
[03:35] <punkrockguy318> Is there any way to get evolution to sort by thread like in Mozilla Thunderbird? in dapper/breezy?
[03:35] <snooze> qomg, that music is so ill :)
[03:35] <Mordof> scam, its onboard for the MSI KM4M-L motherboard
[03:35] <CosmoDad> how can I change the default editor from nano to vi?
[03:35] <bigmoe> how to install rpm files without alien anyone know
[03:35] <snooze> allright guys, my gnome startup notification window appears on the WRONG display, how can i fix that?
[03:35] <steeltoes12345> can anyone tell me what are the min system requirements for ubuntu?
[03:36] <Xenguy> CosmoDad: export EDITOR=vi
[03:36] <snooze> CosmoDad: sudo apt-get install vim, echo 'export EDITOR=vim' >> ~/.bash_profile
[03:36] <Mordof> VIA 8235 it says in the audio controls
[03:36] <snooze> s/,/;/
[03:36] <_jason> steeltoes12345: 128mb ram, ~2GB hard drive space
[03:36] <CosmoDad> Xenguy: snooze .bash_profile or .bashrc?
[03:36] <steeltoes12345> ok
[03:36] <dontodd> anybody able to get decent ripping speeds in breezy?
[03:36] <snooze> CosmoDad: uhm
[03:36] <snooze> CosmoDad: good point, test it.
[03:36] <punkrockguy318> dontodd: use grip
[03:37] <CosmoDad> snooze: wasn't there a dpkg-reconfigure'd interface to switch the default editor?
[03:37] <Fub> can anyone help me? I'm running ubuntu on my laptop with the external usb hard disks attaced. During install it detected the hard disks and put them in fstab but when I actually boot ubuntu it can't find them. (untill later when hotplug runs)
[03:37] <_jason> CosmoDad: sudo update-alternatives --config editor, should work too
[03:37] <snooze> why are my both twinview monitors twisted goddamnit and why does KDE not impress that at all but gnome? :)
[03:37] <lord_crow> hi all
[03:37] <Xenguy> CosmoDad: .bash_profile for env settings
[03:37] <snooze> CosmoDad: uhm!
[03:37] <steeltoes12345> jason:  i have that.  also running on an older AMD K6 400mhz proccessor.   128mb of ram, 6.4 gig hdd.    and it runs SLOW
[03:37] <lord_crow> are the Xgl packs for dapper flight 3 amd64 ?
[03:37] <snooze> CosmoDad: don't know
[03:37] <CosmoDad> _jason: just found it too, thx
[03:37] <dontodd> punkrockguy318: I've tried grip and sound juicer, disabled extra paranoia + skip detection, and I'm only getting 1x
[03:37] <snooze> Xenguy: thx :)
[03:37] <airreson> can someone help me? the sollution to this problem is that a module need to be loaded... but every time i use modprobe it has errors
[03:38] <Xenguy> snooze: :-)
[03:38] <scam> Mordof, you get my pm?
[03:38] <_jason> steeltoes12345: well that's why they are the min sys requirements probably.  Try running Xubuntu instead
[03:38] <CosmoDad> Xenguy, snooze: I need it globaly set, gonna use update-alternatives
[03:38] <snooze> Xenguy: :-P
[03:38] <steeltoes12345> jason: oviously that is expected with my hardware. but is there anything i can do to "speed it up??"
[03:38] <_jason> ubotu: tell steeltoes12345 about xubuntu
[03:38] <snooze> CosmoDad: i don't think so
[03:38] <Mordof> scam, no
[03:38] <Xenguy> CosmoDad: /etc/profile
[03:38] <dontodd> punkrockguy318: I have dma enabled
[03:38] <snooze> CosmoDad: why don't you just use the responsible file in /etc?
[03:38] <beloy0820> hello fellow ubuntu user
[03:38] <scam> message me Mordof
[03:38] <steeltoes12345> what is xubuntu??
[03:38] <Mordof> scam, last time that happened from my friend, she wasnt registered
[03:38] <_jason> steeltoes12345: it's ubuntu with xfce instead of gnome
[03:38] <Xenguy> steeltoes12345: ubu w/ xfce4
[03:39] <Phuzion> My friend is trying to set up a server, and he can't get pure-ftpd to work
[03:39] <steeltoes12345> what is xfce?
[03:39] <CosmoDad> snooze: because I think global changes is what update-alternatives is good for
[03:39] <JDigital_> ubotu, tell JDigital_ about dualboot
[03:39] <beloy0820> can ask something what application will run my mp3 files for ubuntu
[03:39] <JDigital_> xmms
[03:39] <Xenguy> CosmoDad: /etc/profile
[03:39] <Xenguy> :-)
[03:39] <Phuzion> !pure-ftpd
[03:39] <ubotu> Phuzion: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:39] <punkrockguy318> dontodd: dma?
[03:39] <snooze> CosmoDad: i never used update-alternatives and would do it the same way as Xenguy.
[03:39] <dontodd> steeltoes12345: it's a lightweight desktop environment
[03:39] <_jason> steeltoes12345: http://www.xfce.org
[03:39] <lord_crow> is the Xgl server pack for dapper flight 3 amd64 done?(http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=129772)
[03:39] <tonyyarusso> beloy0820: Whatever you want.  But see !mp3
[03:40] <snooze> Xenguy: so, be my buddy and tell my why the hell my twinview setup is twisted :)
[03:40] <Xenguy> snooze: never touched TV :-)
[03:40] <dontodd> punkrockguy318: yeah, I hear you're supposed to enable dma (hdparm) on the cd drive
[03:40] <scam> Mordof, can you see it now?
[03:41] <snooze> Xenguy: all the stuff (panels and so on, kde startup screen) appears on the left exactly as i want it to, but the gnome startup thing is on the right and if i start a terminal in gnome on the LEFT one it appears on the RIGHT and i don't know how to fix it ;)
[03:41] <punkrockguy318> dontodd: oh i thought you were talking about evolution,, yeah enabling dma helps a little.. not a big difference though... but grip is faster than souund juicer, because grip simeltaniously rips and encodes, where sj rips, then encodes... excuse my poor spelling
[03:41] <snooze> Xenguy: and it must be some stuff i've screwed up by myself :)
[03:41] <Xenguy> snooze: outta my league :-)
[03:41] <nmm> dang, another questions for you guys... i need to install openSSL and openSSL headers, where do i get it?
[03:41] <snooze> Xenguy: but i can't remember what! :)
[03:41] <snooze> (:
[03:41] <snooze> Xenguy: it's no prob with kde and currently i'm kde'ing :)
[03:41] <snooze> Xenguy: so good luck
[03:41] <SupaDupa> hi
[03:41] <snooze> Xenguy: i can just do it the next days
[03:42] <Xenguy> snooze: cheers
[03:42] <snooze> Xenguy: but it annoys me to be too stupid to find out :/
[03:42] <snooze> hehe
[03:42] <snooze> cheers :)
[03:42] <Xenguy> snooze: sometimes just waiting a few days fixes things ;-)
[03:42] <barry> frogzoo: fixmbr seems to think it worked for me. Thanks!
[03:42] <snooze> oh yeah, drinking way too much this evening *g*
[03:42] <barry> snooze: Thanks for the help, snooze!
[03:42] <SupaDupa> I just installed ubuntu and it rocks
[03:42] <Xenguy> hehe
[03:42] <snooze> Xenguy: LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
[03:42] <CanadianSnow> so.... how do I get permissions for the file browser?
[03:43] <Xenguy> SupaDupa: congrats
[03:43] <snooze> Xenguy: may i add that quote on my blog?
[03:43] <dontodd> punkrockguy318: I see, this is a newly built box with a lite-on drive and I can't figure out why it won't rip any faster. LIke I said, 1x!
[03:43] <_jason> SupaDupa: yes it does, welcome
[03:43] <Xenguy> snooze: /me shrugs
[03:43] <punkrockguy318> dontodd: yeah, i had that problem too
[03:43] <SupaDupa> thanks
[03:43] <punkrockguy318> dontodd: try grip and dma
[03:43] <snooze> barry: does it work? :)
[03:43] <Xenguy> CanadianSnow: what's wrong?
[03:44] <dontodd> punkrockguy318: did you do anything else? I've used grip and dma--no difference
[03:44] <CanadianSnow> cant move folder from desktop to another folder (Xenguy or anyone)
[03:44] <punkrockguy318> dontodd: the speeds still don't compare with windows, i think it's partially just the audio cd driver...
[03:44] <dontodd> :(
[03:44] <punkrockguy318> dontodd: your sitll getting 1x with grip?
[03:44] <barry> snooze: (Sad to say) I just booted into windoze. Not too sad, I guess, as tha'ts what I was asking to do. Pity I can't talk my wife into turning into a penguinista.
[03:44] <Xenguy> CanadianSnow: which folder?
[03:44] <dontodd> punkrockguy318: yes
[03:44] <SupaDupa> I cant believe how much and how easy it is to install software
[03:44] <Phuzion> SupaDupa:  People work hard so you don't have to.
[03:44] <CanadianSnow> plugins for amsn....
[03:45] <punkrockguy318> dontodd: that's strange... try fiddling around with some options in grip
[03:45] <nmm> anyone know how to get openSSL?
[03:45] <SupaDupa> no doubt
[03:45] <snooze> barry: pity that it is your wife and not your shorttimegirlfriend you could replace with a female geek ;)
[03:45] <Phuzion> nmm:  sudo apt-get install openssl
[03:45] <barry> snooze: LOL.
[03:45] <Xenguy> CanadianSnow: sounds like a permissions problem of some kind (read the fine print :-)
[03:45] <Phuzion> ubotu, tell nmm about apt-get
[03:45] <punkrockguy318> dontodd: the ripping situation doesn't compare with mac and win unfortunately... that driver definitely needs some work, as audio cds can't even been mounted natively
[03:45] <CanadianSnow> what fine print?!?!? *cries* (Xenguy)
[03:45] <nmm> thank you sir
[03:46] <CosmoDad> _jason: I'm not sure how to use Malone... the bug has already been filed, but its status is "unconfirmed". Should I change it to "confirmed" and add a comment, or is that something people at higher rank should do?
[03:46] <Xenguy> CanadianSnow: permissions are usually a needle/haystack type scenario; just check all the permissions to see if you are allowed to move files to the destination you want
[03:46] <snooze> barry: sorry ;)
[03:46] <_jason> CosmoDad: I don't know that myself, I usualyl just post a comment saying I experienced the problem as well
[03:47] <CosmoDad> _jason: you know whether there are guidelines somewhere?
[03:47] <Xenguy> CanadianSnow: ls -l to check file/dir permissions
[03:47] <nmm> dang its still saying it cant find it
[03:47] <Madpilot> CosmoDad: there are bug-filing guidelines on the wiki somewhere - just a minute
[03:47] <CosmoDad> Madpilot: ok..
[03:48] <IdleOne> amphi:  openbox runs smooth. thanks! :)
[03:48] <Phuzion> nmm
[03:48] <Phuzion> Type sudo apt-get install openssl
[03:48] <Phuzion> It's there.
[03:48] <Pablo> I need to run this command before x starts up... it has to be run a root or sudo.... any ideas on how to do it? "915resolution 3c 1400 1050"
[03:48] <CanadianSnow> !permissions
[03:48] <ubotu> permissions are explained here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions  - The easiest way to work with permissions is to sudo chmod {options} filename.        I've wget'ing the css and img directory but can't find the *.py files
[04:07] <Eleaf> lol
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[04:07] <snooze> everyone ping -f him and it should work :)
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[04:07] <CanadianSnow> holobyted are you trying to get sound going?
[04:07] <jodanlime> all right, I couldnt get irssi to work, but under xchat if you right click a name you can ignore him
[04:07] <Eleaf> yay johndarkhorse
[04:07] <Eleaf> lol
[04:07] <snooze> johndarkhorse: thx
[04:07] <tonyyarusso> john's back!
[04:07] <CuriousCat> YAY!!!
[04:07] <tzadik> hi
[04:07] <Xenguy> johndarkhorse: tx
[04:07] <holobyted> can-o-worms, yeah
[04:07] <holobyted> err, make that canadian.
[04:07] <Eleaf> lol...
[04:07] <jodanlime> johndarkhorse, is god
[04:07] <Eleaf> hm
[04:07] <_jason> johndarkhorse: to the rescue
[04:08] <eidolon> jayzus that was fun.
[04:08] <Eleaf> that was actually kinda intersting
[04:08] <tzadik> what is the best way to get a windows xp laptop to talk to my ubuntu box using wireless
[04:08] <elkbuntu> you are our hero johndarkhorse
[04:08] <Eleaf> it was like a pattern!
[04:08] <Eleaf> lol
[04:08] <jodanlime> wow, that was really sucky for me
[04:08] <_jason> everyone remember to unignore ubuntu since that's the nick for newcomers
[04:08] <tzadik> the laptop is wireless
[04:08] <tonyyarusso> How can I switch numbers 10 and up in irssi?
[04:08] <robotgeek>  /uignore ubuntu
[04:08] <tzadik> and my ubuntu box is hard-wired to the router
[04:08] <_jason> tonyyarusso: qwertyuiop
[04:08] <Xenguy> _jason: good point
[04:08] <CanadianSnow> ummm what holobyted?
[04:08] <snooze> tonyyarusso: /help bind
[04:08] <holobyted> canadiansnow, yeah.. I'm trying to get sound going under VMware
[04:08] <snooze> tonyyarusso: you can even bind !"$%&/( and so on
[04:08] <tonyyarusso> _jason, snooze: thanks.
[04:08] <snooze> tonyyarusso: and uppercase letters
[04:08] <Juhaz> tonyyarusso, go one row lower, qwerty...
[04:09] <snooze> tonyyarusso: i got binds until 40 or so
[04:09] <CanadianSnow> is it just a music player? (Holobyted)
[04:09] <w32> he's blocking icmp echos
[04:09] <snooze> tonyyarusso: if you want those shortcuts, let me know and i paste them.
[04:09] <holobyted> ...no, VMware is another thing
[04:09] <w32> blocking stealth scans
[04:09] <tonyyarusso> snooze: You can throw 'em in #tonyyarusso if you'd like.
[04:09] <snooze> w32: 1337! :)
[04:09] <w32> pix maybe ?
[04:09] <Xenguy> w32: so he's firewalled
[04:09] <w32> yeah
[04:09] <Eleaf> lol
[04:10] <CanadianSnow> k i dont think I can help... im a beginner with ubuntu...
[04:10] <Toma-> no way... hes using iptables :O
[04:10] <w32> bfd digging still
[04:10] <tzadik> any ideas on the laptop question?
[04:10] <kennethd> tzadik, what kind of talking do you want them to do?  samba?
[04:10] <tzadik> i want to open an x session
[04:10] <Tuxiscool> I just tried installing dapper's initramfs-tools, and now my computer won't boot. It starts with the messages "Segmentation Fault" a few times, then spurts out: "ALERT! Could not find device /dev/sda5! Dropping to a shell" Anyone know what I could do to fix it?
[04:10] <tzadik> login to my ubuntu box
[04:11] <jodanlime> how would I unignore ubuntu?
[04:11] <Tuxiscool> Oops, /dev/hda5, I mean.
[04:11] <Xenguy> !tell Tuxiscool about dapper
[04:11] <holobyted> anyone else?
[04:11] <_jason> jodanlime: /unignore ubuntu, in irssi at least
[04:11] <Ocius> oh hes gone now
[04:11] <Toma-> Tuxiscool, install breezy?
[04:11] <CanadianSnow> oh... I still needa know how to open the file browser with root permissions
[04:11] <Ocius> Ok, can anyone help me fix my dvd drive to work correctly
[04:11] <Toma-> Tuxiscool, file a bug and wait for a patch
[04:11] <jodanlime> _jason, I couldnt get anything to happen on irssi
[04:11] <tzadik> not files
[04:12] <Tuxiscool> Toma-, I want to find a temporary solution.
[04:12] <kennethd> tzadik, I've never done that... I think you want a vnc server
[04:12] <tzadik> basically, the problem is
[04:12] <Ocius> it will mount cds fine but not dvds
[04:12] <grim76> Tuxiscool: did you try booting to a previous kernel?
[04:12] <Toma-> Ocius, whats it doing?
[04:12] <tzadik> my ubuntu box is in my home office
[04:12] <tzadik> connected to my router
[04:12] <Ocius> Ok
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> All right, I'm going to temporarily change my nick to ubuntu so everyone can test their unignores, 'k?
[04:12] <tzadik> and i want to sit on my sofa in the living room
[04:12] <Tuxiscool> grim76, I didn't update the kernel, just initramfs-tools.
[04:12] <tzadik> and work on it
[04:12] <tzadik> using the laptop
[04:12] <Ocius> it will load cds fine but not dvds, when i try to open it, it pops the window up and i see the files real fast then it closes
[04:12] <Toma-> Tuxiscool, check your fstab
[04:12] <ubuntu> You should all see this, since it's the default nick that many new users come on as!
[04:12] <CanadianSnow> tony dont uoi have to say something?
[04:12] <CanadianSnow> there ya go :p
[04:12] <tzadik> the laptop has to have windows because it's owned by my work
[04:13] <grim76> Tuxiscool: ahh ok nm.....
[04:13] <ubuntu> There, good 'nough.
[04:13] <tzadik> got it?
[04:13] <Ocius> when i click on cd-rw/dvd+R drive i get this error : Warning: device /dev/hda is already handled by /etc/fstab, supplied label is ignored
[04:13] <Ocius> mount: mount point /media/cdrom/0 does not exist
[04:13] <Ocius> Error: could not execute pmount
[04:13] <tzadik> i tried netSarang but it could not connect
[04:13] <CanadianSnow> so who knows how to browse files with write permissions?
[04:14] <maxkelley> root? :P
[04:14] <Ocius> canadian, is it ntfs partition?
[04:14] <Toma-> Ocius, have yo editted fstab at all?
[04:14] <Ocius> some
[04:14] <Ocius> lemme copy it into here
[04:14] <IdleOne> !pastebin
[04:14] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[04:14] <jodanlime> CanadianSnow, try 'sudo nautilus' in the console
[04:14] <kennethd> tzadik, look @ apt-cache show vncserver
[04:14] <Ocius> Pasting
[04:14] <Ocius> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[04:14] <Ocius> #
[04:14] <Ocius> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[04:14] <Ocius> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[04:14] <Ocius> /dev/hdc1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[04:14] <Ocius> /dev/hdd1       /media/         vfat    defaults        0       0
[04:14] <Toma-> Ocius, dont paste in here. use pastebin ^^^
[04:14] <Ocius> /dev/hdc5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[04:14] <CanadianSnow> ty
[04:14] <Toma-> !ops
[04:14] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[04:14] <Ocius> /dev/hda        /media/cdrom/0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[04:14] <Ocius> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[04:14] <Ocius> /dev/sda        /media/usb0     auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[04:14] <Ocius> /dev/hdd5       /media/slave/        vfat    defaults        0       0
[04:15] <Ocius> /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
[04:15] <Xenguy> !tell Ocius about paste
[04:15] <IdleOne> Ocius: not in here
[04:15] <GnoNayme> any1 install mono under ubuntu and get the nautilus icons to work
[04:15] <Tuxiscool> Toma-, /dev/hda5 (the one it can't find) is my swap partition, my root fs is /dev/hda6.
[04:15] <snooze> re.
[04:15] <Ocius> ok, im back
[04:15] <Toma-> Tuxiscool, intresting. can you run "swapon" ?
[04:16] <Ocius> wish i wasnt kicked for not knowing
[04:16] <johndarkhorse> Ocius: do you read channel /topics when you enter irc channels?
[04:16] <Ocius> even though the flooder was here for like 20 minutes
[04:16] <bimberi> Ocius: /topic
[04:16] <Xenguy> Ocius: /topic
[04:16] <snooze> did anyone of you compile a <IP_ADDRESS> kernel in ubuntu?
[04:16] <Ocius> Ocius doesnt use IRC
[04:16] <Ocius> plain and simple
[04:16] <Ocius> i know enough to access it
[04:16] <w32> here he is http://pastebin.com/555381
[04:16] <Toma-> did you read the topic when you joined the channel?
[04:16] <w32> couple open ports
[04:16] <Ocius> no
[04:16] <Toma-> the big sentence that gets thrown at you when you join?
[04:16] <Ocius> i didnt
[04:17] <Ocius> I know what you mean
[04:17] <Xenguy> Ocius: now you know
[04:17] <Ocius> yes now i know
[04:17] <nmm> anyone ever install nessus on ubuntu?
[04:17] <robotgeek> Ocius: it's always a good idea to read those :)
[04:17] <Ocius> i find it funny that a flooder can stay in here for so long and i get kicked for not knowing
[04:17] <w32> is he still at it I ignored him
[04:17] <Xenguy> !anyone
[04:17] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[04:17] <robotgeek> Ocius: such is life
[04:17] <tonyyarusso> w32: No.  You should unignore the nick now.
[04:17] <snooze> Xenguy: :)
[04:17] <Ocius> Toma
[04:18] <Ocius> did you read what i pasted
[04:18] <snooze> did anyone ever use !anyone in here? :)
[04:18] <Toma-> w32, couldnt find your nmap dir i see? :)
[04:18] <Ocius> or must i re paste in this site
[04:18] <snooze> Xenguy: allright.
[04:18] <Tuxiscool> Toma-, I ran it ('swapon /dev/hda5) and I get no output.
[04:18] <w32> heheh yeah forgot I don't use this lappy much
[04:18] <snooze> who's using <IP_ADDRESS> on ubuntu?
[04:18] <w32> did he get kicked/banned or did my metasploit kill him
[04:18] <Tuxiscool> Toma-, I'm using the dapper installer rescue system at the moment.
[04:19] <snooze> w32: lol
[04:19] <Ocius> http://pastebin.com/555384
[04:19] <Ocius> Toma -- http://pastebin.com/555384
[04:19] <Toma-> Tuxiscool, you need to chroot
[04:19] <Tuxiscool> Hm? My root fs is mounted.
[04:19] <Toma-> w32, he got kickbanned. also, hes got an ftp server up i telneted it :)
[04:20] <w32> anonymous ?
[04:20] <Toma-> w32, and a dlink router
[04:20] <jodanlime> !anyone
[04:20] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[04:20] <Ocius> Toma-- any ideas?
[04:20] <Toma-> w32, i logged into his router :D hahahaha.
[04:20] <w32> default pass ?
[04:21] <iRRVi> hey!
[04:21] <w32> what is it ?
[04:21] <Toma-> admin:admin
[04:21] <grim76> Toma-: you have got to be kidding me he did not change the defaults.
[04:21] <iRRVi> you stole my question!
[04:21] <elkbuntu> if anyone is still doing stuff to the flooder, stop so he can be dealt with properly :)
[04:21] <w32> lmao
[04:21] <Toma-> telnet port 23
[04:21] <w32> k
[04:21] <Toma-> hahaha.
[04:21] <Ocius> Toma - http://pastebin.com/555384
[04:21] <Toma-> i got out, feel free to write the firmware of /dev/urandom
[04:21] <Toma-> :D
[04:21] <iRRVi> dont you say 'he didnt change the defualts" to me, i just go tit
[04:22] <iRRVi> *it
[04:22] <bigmoe> anyone knows how to anonymous browsing in ubuntu
[04:22] <snooze> either it's painful slow or it doesn't work at all.
[04:22] <snooze> bigmoe: the question does not make sense.
[04:22] <grim76> lol deny his mac address from his own router
[04:22] <Toma-> so anyone cleaned his firmware? dont just reset it :( thats lame.
[04:22] <snooze> grim76: LOl
[04:22] <bigmoe> to brows the internet anonymously
[04:23] <Mordof> im having troubles playing dvds.. it keeps asking if i have libdvdcss installed, but when i go to apt-get it, i get an error
[04:23] <Mordof> and its not listed in synaptic
[04:23] <Tuxiscool> Toma-, swap partition seems to be working correctly.
[04:23] <Tuxiscool> Toma-, Know why it wouldn't find it on boot?
[04:23] <Toma-> Ocius, cat you run "ls /media" for me and put it in pastebin?
[04:23] <Mordof> do i need to add another repository for libdvdcss?
[04:23] <iRRVi> admin:admin doesnt work :-/
[04:24] <Ocius> sudo ls /media
[04:24] <Ocius> or what
[04:24] <Ocius> it just printed out 4 things in the terminal
[04:24] <Toma-> Tuxiscool, messing with init will kill alot of stuff.
[04:24] <Toma-> Ocius, all i need is the line about cdrom
[04:24] <Toma-> or both
[04:25] <Toma-> iRRVi, only 1 person can login at anytime
[04:25] <iRRVi> is admin the defualt password?
[04:25] <iRRVi> oh
[04:25] <Tuxiscool> Toma-, Should I try a fresh dapper install?
[04:25] <Ocius> toma- http://pastebin.com/555392
[04:25] <Toma-> Tuxiscool, its worth a shot.
[04:25] <bigmoe> another thing after installing fuse i didnt know which partition to mount
[04:25] <iRRVi> ...I'm working with aptitude and it says to enter the root password, doesn't work
[04:25] <Mordof> anyone know why i cant play dvds? Totem Player is saying its encrypted, and asks if im trying to play it without libdvdcss installed
[04:26] <w32> I gotta go to work bbl
[04:26] <Madpilot> iRRVi: by default the pw it wants is your own user pw
[04:26] <bigmoe> anyone got a clue iam using ubuntu and have winxp in the other
[04:26] <iRRVi> oh
[04:26] <iRRVi> lol, im a n00b
[04:26] <Madpilot> !tell iRRVi about sudo
[04:26] <Mordof> anyone?
[04:26] <Protocol1> Mordof: i had the same issue
[04:26] <Mordof> Protocol1, did you ever get it fixed?
[04:27] <Protocol1> have you tried using ogle?
[04:27] <Protocol1> no
[04:27] <Mordof> i dont know what to google for
[04:27] <Protocol1> sudo apt-get install ogle
[04:27] <Mordof> oh OGLE
[04:27] <Mordof> lol
[04:27] <Mordof> 1 sec
[04:27] <Protocol1> k
[04:28] <Toma-> Ocius, ok, edit fstab with "sudo gedit /etc/fstab" and change '/media/cdrom/0' to '/media/cdrom'
[04:28] <Tuxiscool> Toma-, I'll try ext3 instead of reiserfs, jusy for kicks :)
[04:28] <glick> excuse me anyone here use gschem?
[04:28] <glick> im trying to find a good program for digital circuit layout
[04:28] <Tuxiscool> just*
[04:28] <glick> gschem looks good
[04:28] <Mordof> libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
[04:28] <glick> but it segfaults when i try to run it
[04:29] <Ocius> done now what
[04:29] <Toma-> looks like our flooder has fled.
[04:30] <Ocius> toma- still getting the same errors when trying to open it, want me to post the errors ina  pastebin?
[04:30] <Madpilot> Toma-: did you get to mess with his router?
[04:30] <Xenguy> Toma-: passwd?
[04:30] <app3dxf> could anyone help me with installing the ivtv drivers?
[04:30] <snooze> so did anyone change his dlink config?
[04:30] <Toma-> Ocius, yes plz
[04:30] <Toma-> Madpilot, was about to telnet a new firmware to it :(
[04:30] <app3dxf> I am having a problem compiling them, I think I have everything installed that I need, however, I am getting an error on make
[04:30] <X-GueSt> Does anyone has a GeForce FX5200 around here?
[04:30] <Toma-> Xenguy, IP is gone
[04:31] <app3dxf> FX5500, here
[04:31] <Xenguy> Toma-: heh I was just there
[04:31] <snooze> hmm
[04:31] <Madpilot> Toma-: for the wrong type of router, I hope :P
[04:31] <scam> why cant i veiw my hda1 *windows partition*
[04:31] <Toma-> oh yeh
[04:31] <X-GueSt> I only got about 1070fps on glxgears :f
[04:31] <X-GueSt> with mine
[04:31] <IXKoDiaKXI> can anyone help me with a wireless problem?
[04:31] <Toma-> Xenguy, looks like hes blocked it now :*(
[04:31] <Madpilot> !anyone
[04:31] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[04:31] <glick> any electrical engineers in here?
[04:31] <X-GueSt> I even disable agpgart from loading and Im using NvAGP
[04:31] <X-GueSt> there is no diference in the fps's :\
[04:32] <IXKoDiaKXI> My wireless card installed using ndiswrapper now i can see my router but cant connect to it
[04:32] <IXKoDiaKXI> any ideas?
[04:32] <Toma-> X-GueSt, what kinda card is it?
[04:32] <Ocius> Toma- i only have a dvd rw btw, no cdrom at all
[04:33] <X-GueSt> graphic card
[04:33] <X-GueSt> GF FX5200
[04:33] <X-GueSt> 128mb
[04:33] <Ocius> http://pastebin.com/555405
[04:33] <Madpilot> X-GueSt: glxgears isn't always reliable, I've heard - how does the card do with a real 3d game or app?
[04:33] <Xenguy> Toma-: yep, blocked
[04:34] <glick> is there an engineering channel on freenode?
[04:34] <Toma-> Ocius, and what does 'dmesg | tail' return?
[04:34] <X-GueSt> In unrealtournament its doesnt bad.. but I still got more fps on win..
[04:34] <IXKoDiaKXI> has anyone else had the problem of not being able to connect to any router after installing there wireless card?
[04:34] <X-GueSt> and im not emulating.. its instaled nativly
[04:35] <X-GueSt> I just wanted to see if someone had the same card.. and if he got only the same fps as I do
[04:35] <Toma-> X-GueSt, whats the fps difference between win and ubuntu in UT?
[04:35] <Ocius> Toma- http://pastebin.com/555409
[04:35] <X-GueSt> cause I got a friend with a GeForce MX440 using agpgart and he has 1300fps on glxgears :x
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> X-GueSt, do you use nvidia drivers?
[04:36] <Toma-> Ocius, looks like a bad CD.... ps. ive got ghost in the shell too :)
[04:36] <X-GueSt> Toma-, I got about 200fps in win.. and ubuntu 90/100fps
[04:36] <X-GueSt> 120 when im against a wall
[04:36] <Ocius> lemme try another ok
[04:36] <X-GueSt> (less textures)
[04:36] <Ocius> Btw
[04:36] <Ocius> i its not a bad cd
[04:36] <X-GueSt> nomasteryoda, yeh I do
[04:36] <Ocius> cause i was able to run it in windows fine
[04:36] <Toma-> Ocius, ok.
[04:36] <scam> why cant i veiw my hda1 *windows partition* says "i don't have permissions to view it"
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> k
[04:36] <Ocius> trying another dvd
[04:36] <Ocius> and Yes GitS is an awesome show
[04:37] <cycom> Ocius: only if watched subbed. so there.
[04:37] <Toma-> :D ive got the first 3 dvds
[04:37] <Ocius> Toma- Same errors, and i only watched subbed anime.. dub = nub
[04:37] <ubuntu514> hi 5.10 live cd usr 33.6 :)
[04:38] <misfit_toy> ubuntu514: modem??
[04:38] <mordof> hurray! now i cant get into X!!
[04:38] <elkbuntu> yay
[04:38] <mordof> grrr.. im starting to regret deleting windows
[04:38] <ubuntu514> misfit_toy 5$
[04:38] <amphi> mordof: console is teh r0x0r ;)
[04:38] <Xenguy> mordof: patience
[04:38] <snooze> mordof: :)
[04:39] <mordof> amphi: not when i wanna watch dvds :(
[04:39] <snooze> mordof: what exactly doesn't work?
[04:39] <mordof> snooze: X failed to load up, apparently the drivers for my nvidia card didnt work right or something
[04:39] <Protocol1> mordof: you could have done a dual boot setup
[04:39] <amphi> mordof: mplayer -vo aa in console
[04:39] <ubuntu514> misfit_toy usr ext 28.8 33.6 for $5cdn
[04:39] <snooze> mordof: i had the same problem here some hours ago
[04:39] <Xenguy> mordof: and what changed?
[04:40] <mordof> Protocol1, i did, but then after i didnt use windows for a while i decided i could get rid of it
[04:40] <misfit_toy> ubuntu514: well that's certainly affordable
[04:40] <mordof> Xenguy: i restarted my computer, first restart after i had installed them
[04:40] <Xenguy> mordof: hrm, nvidia too, yes?
[04:40] <Protocol1> i run both just to get the bes to f both worlds
[04:40] <mordof> Xenguy: nvidia 6800 xt video card
[04:40] <Xenguy> mordof:  there's a HOWTO for that IIRC
[04:41] <Toma-> Ocius, back to your fstab, you have 2 entrys for /media/cdrom0 right?
[04:41] <mordof> Xenguy: didnt apply, it wouldnt work right, i didnt have the same kernel version it was compiled in
[04:41] <Ocius> yes
[04:41] <Ocius> it was two seperate attempts
[04:41] <ubuntu514> misfit_toy cornelious? silver & gold on the island of ..
[04:41] <Toma-> Ocius, ok, thats a no-no.
[04:41] <mordof> Xenguy: i then had to get the linux-headers files and it made its own compile..
[04:41] <stormy|> I'm new to linux and all, but how do I install this program? http://www.tucows.com/preview/39014
[04:41] <Xenguy> mordof: oh
[04:41] <mordof> apparently it didnt do a very good job
[04:41] <Toma-> Ocius, is your dvd drive hda?
[04:42] <Ocius> ill check
[04:42] <Ocius> under disk manager
[04:42] <Toma-> ok
[04:42] <Xenguy> mordof: it worked for me, if it is the same scenario (I'm not sure anymore)
[04:42] <glick> damn there are no good free digital schematic editor for linux
[04:42] <glick> what the hell
[04:42] <steeltoes12345> question.   i want to use ubuntu with xfce.   I have installed "breezy badger" (with gnome) on my system.   to use xfce, do i have to reinstall with another version or can i some how add xfce to my install??
[04:42] <mordof> Xenguy: i updated my kernel, and then tried to install the nvidia drivers...
[04:42] <Ocius> Toma- error on clicking the cd rom, ive seen it before
[04:42] <grim76> steeltoes12345: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:42] <_jason> steeltoes12345: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop I believe, didn't the wiki explain it?
[04:42] <Ocius> Toma- Couldn't find "/tmp/disks-conf-hda"
[04:42] <mordof> Xenguy: i think it said my kernel reports the driver as the version the drivers should be, and the drivers are reporting a different version
[04:42] <Xenguy> mordof: I have done that successfully
[04:43] <Xenguy> mordof: hrm
[04:43] <Ocius> Toma- its dev/hda
[04:43] <mordof> Xenguy: ill just try installing them again.. *shrugs*
[04:43] <Xenguy> mordof: good luck
[04:43] <Toma-> Ocius, ok, get rid of this line - - -/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
[04:43] <theblue_> Hi all, I have a webcam that Easycame doesn't detect, can anyone help me otu?
[04:43] <Ocius> Toma- done
[04:43] <theblue_> out, too?
[04:43] <mordof> Xenguy: thanks
[04:44] <Toma-> save, and try remounting
[04:44] <steeltoes12345> jason:  ya kind of.   from what I was reading, it seems that i need to reinstall, to do it
[04:44] <Ocius> whats the terminal line for remounting
[04:44] <steeltoes12345> jason: am i correct??
[04:44] <_jason> steeltoes12345: you should be able to run both
[04:44] <Ocius> sudo mount -a ?
[04:44] <Toma-> yeh
[04:44] <grim76> steeltoes12345: you can run both just have to make the selection before you login to get xfce rather than KDE/Gnome
[04:45] <mordof> Xenguy: there, its reinstalled, now lets see if i can get into X
[04:45] <Ocius> nothign still
[04:45] <Ocius> Same errors
[04:45] <Ocius> in the media folder the cd rom folders are empty
[04:45] <mordof> Xenguy: GAH! starting gnome display manager fails!
[04:45] <Ocius> and there is no mount on the desktop of the dvd drive
[04:45] <mordof> it just said it installed successfully, what the hell :'(
[04:45] <mordof> im dooomed!
[04:45] <snooze> mordof: then, most probably, your x config is fucked up.
[04:45] <steeltoes12345> right now that selection is not there.    so it seems that i will probably have to reinstall
[04:45] <Nightshade> do any of you know if there's a way to trick firefox or any browser on linux into thinking it's internet explorer so i can get on sites like music.yahoo.com and whatnot?  i have w32codecs installed and stuff.
[04:45] <Toma-> Ocius, ok, run this for me... "dmesg | grep DVD"
[04:46] <mordof> snooze: the nvidia install should take care of that though
[04:46] <snooze> mordof: try disabling gdm first.
[04:46] <wastrel> hi.  my wifi card likes to disconnect when i pulling a lot of network traffic, but only when i'm in a certain room in my house.. i think it's trying to connect to a neighbor's network...  any way to fix this?  i'm using associate=0 when loading the ipw2200 driver
[04:46] <snooze> mordof: ?
[04:46] <mordof> snooze: im not in X.. im trying to start GDm
[04:46] <snooze> mordof: take care of what?
[04:46] <Ocius> Is it cool to paste it here?
[04:46] <grim76> steeltoes12345: you do not need to reinstall...just need to do an sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:46] <Ocius> damnit
[04:46] <mordof> snooze: er, how would i start X?
[04:46] <Toma-> woops :D
[04:46] <Ocius> Toma- can i paste it here, its only 2 lines
[04:47] <wastrel> mordof:  startx may work
[04:47] <mordof> i was told /etc/init.d/gdm start, but that fails
[04:47] <Toma-> paste it to me in priovate
[04:47] <snooze> mordof: guess how - "startx
[04:47] <mordof> k
[04:47] <snooze> "
[04:47] <Ocius> Toma- can i paste it here, its only 2 lines
[04:47] <snooze> Ocius: yes :)
[04:47] <Toma-> paste it to me in private
[04:47] <kwewu14> i installed the k7 kernel-image and now nvidia-glx driver won't work with X
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> Nightshade: I don't know what the site actually requires and whether this will work, but Opera can identify as IE>
[04:47] <wastrel> mordof:  you may need to use sudo to start gdm like that
[04:47] <Toma-> kwewu14, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-glx"
[04:47] <snooze> kwewu14: apt-get remove nvidia-glx; apt-get install nvidia-glx
[04:48] <kwewu14> i tried both of those things
[04:48] <kwewu14> it didn't work.
[04:48] <Ocius> Toma- sent
[04:48] <snooze> kwewu14: why not?
[04:48] <Toma-> Ocius, no :D have you registered your nick? just paste it in here
[04:48] <kwewu14> because it didn't. i still get the same nvidia driver not found error
[04:48] <Ocius> Toma - [4294673.146000]  hda: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3540A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
[04:48] <Ocius> [4294676.384000]  hda: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache
[04:49] <Mordof> odd.. im in X now
[04:49] <Toma-> i c
[04:49] <wastrel> Mordof:  what's odd?  startx worked :]
[04:49] <snooze> odd is dope :)
[04:49] <Rory|FireShaper> When someone has a second, I'm having problems with my webcam
[04:49] <snooze> like smoking stuff
[04:49] <snooze> :)
[04:49] <Mordof> wastrel, yeah, except X showed errors and then after 5 seconds decided to work
[04:49] <Mordof> wastrel, im afraid to restart my computer again
[04:49] <wastrel> some errors aren't fatal
[04:50] <wastrel> fontpath stuff for example
[04:50] <Mordof> wastrel, it said X failed to start... maybe that was just from before
[04:50] <bob> How do you get rid of a pkg that's on an "inconsistent" state?
[04:50] <wastrel> Mordof:  you could kill X & try again :]
[04:50] <Toma-> Ocius, ok your dvd/cdrom line in fstab should be "/dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto  0  0" and just that. no other mentioning of it in fstab.
[04:51] <maxbern> guys how can i read my floopy drive tell me pls
[04:51] <Rory|FireShaper> I'm getting this error when I try to start camorama: Could not connect to video device (/dev/video0)
[04:51] <Toma-> !floppy
[04:51] <ubotu> Toma-: Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:51] <wastrel> anybody on why my wifi card likes to disconnect but only in one room of my apartment?
[04:51] <Toma-> actually they do...
[04:52] <maxbern> !floppy
[04:52] <snooze> maxbern: wastrel because you have bad connect there
[04:52] <snooze> aehm
[04:52] <Ocius> Toma- ok nothing changed yet
[04:52] <snooze> wastrel:
[04:52] <maxbern> omg
[04:52] <Mordof> hmm.. it works now, but the splash screen loading up, that Ubuntu thing.. its all grey and blurry
[04:52] <Toma-> Ocius, it may also be a dbus problem... tried rebooting?
[04:52] <wastrel> snooze:  it's about 20 feet away from the AP in direct LoS...
[04:52] <Ocius> i can
[04:52] <Ocius> ill brb
[04:52] <Toma-> ok
[04:52] <maxbern> try again snooze
[04:53] <snooze> wastrel: wifi goes strange ways
[04:53] <wastrel> snooze:  the connection works anywhere else in the apt (thru walls, farther away)
[04:53] <leveny> hi all! i messed up my sudoer account. i rebooted in single user mode and added my account in sudoers. i can no use my account with sudo but i can no longer play music. it says, "no permission". any idea will be appreciated. :)
[04:53] <Rory|FireShaper> I'm getting this error when I try to start camorama: Could not connect to video device (/dev/video0)
[04:53] <snooze> wastrel: that has nothing to say
[04:53] <wastrel> snooze:  i think it's trying to associate with a neighbor's AP
[04:53] <snooze> wastrel: possible too
[04:53] <maxbern> Toma-, i need your expertise on floppy
[04:53] <maxbern> tell me how
[04:53] <wastrel> snooze:  but i start the module with associate=0
[04:54] <snooze> wastrel: hm
[04:54] <Toma-> maxbern, i have no expertise :D
[04:54] <snooze> wastrel: then it should just work :)
[04:54] <wastrel> snooze:  also it only happens when there's a load on the network
[04:54] <wastrel> snooze:  as in, i'm downloading
[04:54] <maxbern> anybody can help me how to read my floopy drive
[04:54] <maxbern> whats the command
[04:54] <snooze> wastrel: i only use normal LAN, sorry :)
[04:54] <wastrel> sigh :]
[04:55] <nick01> where was that page where u configure the repositories ?
[04:55] <wastrel> maxbern:  mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
[04:55] <maxbern> wastrel,  in terminal root?
[04:55] <snooze> damn it's 5 o clock
[04:55] <tzadik> i'm having trouble with vnc
[04:55] <snooze> don't wanna get to sleep
[04:55] <JoeyDay> I'm having trouble mounting my windows ntfs drive.
[04:55] <tzadik> 11 p.m. here
[04:55] <tzadik> haha
[04:55] <wastrel> maxbern:  you may have to create /mnt/floppy, and as root may be necessary
[04:55] <tzadik> (sorry)
[04:55] <JoeyDay> (I guess I should specify "ntfs partition")
[04:55] <nick01> !easysource
[04:55] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:55] <maxbern> tell me how wastrel
[04:55] <tzadik> where are you snooze?
[04:56] <wastrel> maxbern:  sudo mkdir /mnt/floppy
[04:56] <snooze> JoeyDay: /dev/sda1       /mnt/windows_c  ntfs    user,uid=1000,gid=1000
[04:56] <snooze> JoeyDay: works for me
[04:56] <snooze> tzadik: germany
[04:56] <JoeyDay> Yeah, that's what I've tried.
[04:56] <snooze> tzadik: you?
[04:56] <JoeyDay> Says I don't have permission to get at the files.
[04:56] <tzadik> baltimore, maryland, usa
[04:56] <LinuxJones> I'm trying to install Dapper from DVD and it complains about /dev/ram not being created then kicks into a shell. Anybody have a solution ?
[04:56] <JoeyDay> Well, I've tried something similar anyway...
[04:56] <maxbern> next wastrel
[04:56] <snooze> tzadik: oh fine, planet earth gets small :)
[04:56] <maxbern> i make sudo mkdir /mnt/floppy
[04:56] <JoeyDay> Let me compare what I have to what you just said...
[04:56] <tzadik> do u know that the us is so stupid you can't see the olympics live?
[04:56] <snooze> tzadik: i love internet :)
[04:56] <wastrel> maxbern:  actually just   mount /dev/fd0  should work
[04:57] <tzadik> they start showing them at 8 p.m. here
[04:57] <tzadik> recorded
[04:57] <Ocius> Toma- nope
[04:57] <Toma-> damn.
[04:57] <wastrel> maxbern:  if your /etc/fstab is set up like mine
[04:57] <kwewu14> when i try and startx i'm getting a failed to load nvidia kernel error.
[04:57] <snooze> anyways, gotta get to the goddamn hospital tomorrow noon, i'll try to sleep.
[04:57] <Ocius> Toma- this error seems like it might be the main issue: Couldn't find "/tmp/disks-conf-hda"
[04:57] <maxbern> wastrel,  mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device
[04:57] <snooze> thanks to all that helped me out!
[04:57] <tzadik> what city
[04:57] <snooze> night! :)
[04:57] <tzadik> in germany
[04:57] <tzadik> ?
[04:57] <snooze> tzadik: duisburg!
[04:57] <snooze> (:
[04:57] <JoeyDay> snooze: You've got that line in your /etc/fstab ?
[04:57] <Toma-> Ocius, dont worry about that.
[04:57] <snooze> JoeyDay: i do.
[04:57] <tzadik> hmmm never heard of that
[04:58] <snooze> JoeyDay: and it works :)
[04:58] <Toma-> yet.
[04:58] <Ocius> i just want it fixed :(
[04:58] <LinuxJones> kwewu14: can you manually add teh module by typing sudo modprobe nvidia   ?
[04:58] <wastrel> maxbern:  what command did you use?
[04:58] <JoeyDay> snooze: Okay, I had ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 for my options. What's the difference between the fmask/dmask stuff and the uid/gid stuff?
[04:58] <Ocius> Toma- this is its access path : /media/cdrom0
[04:58] <Toma-> yep.
[04:58] <tzadik> i have vnc server set up on my ubuntu box
[04:58] <tzadik> and it is running
[04:58] <andre> if the synaptics is downloading some packages.. and i interrupt it... that half-packages will stay on cache ??
[04:59] <oklinux> can I install kde and xfce in ubuntu ?
[04:59] <wastrel> i should setup vnc
[04:59] <maxbern> wastrel,  im just pasting in the terminal mount /dev/fd0
[04:59] <snooze> JoeyDay: the first is about the rights itself, the second about the owner.
[04:59] <kwewu14> anyone know how to fix a failed to load nvidia kernel module when i startx?
[04:59] <snooze> JoeyDay: *guess*
[04:59] <Spudchat> hey guys, whats the link on upgrading warty to breezy?
[04:59] <tzadik> but my vnc viewer on my windows laptop
[04:59] <tzadik> can't connect
[04:59] <tzadik> i don't know what is wrong
[04:59] <snooze> JoeyDay: with my one, you can map the owner of it :)
[04:59] <wastrel> maxbern:  try  sudo mount /dev/fd0
[04:59] <Ocius> it reads what i have in there
[04:59] <tzadik> mabye the router?
[04:59] <Ocius> i just cant get to it
[04:59] <snooze> JoeyDay: just take your user id
[04:59] <tzadik> needs some kind of setup?
[04:59] <snooze> damn i'm SLEEPY
[04:59] <wastrel> maxbern:  you have a disk in the drive?
[04:59] <snooze> :)
[04:59] <Toma-> Ocius, run this "lshal | grep storage.cdrom.dvd"
[04:59] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: what vnc server?  using gnome?
[04:59] <Toma-> ubotu, tell Spudchat about breezy
[04:59] <JoeyDay> snooze: How do I find my own uid?
[05:00] <Spudchat> thanks
[05:00] <tzadik> i installed the vncserver package
[05:00] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: you wanna display the same remotely as locally?
[05:00] <Toma-> np
[05:00] <Ocius> Toma- done
[05:00] <tzadik> yes
[05:00] <Ocius> hmm
[05:00] <Toma-> Ocius, anything return?
[05:00] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: apt-get remove vncserver
[05:00] <maxbern> nope
[05:00] <Ocius> there are two falses
[05:00] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: using gnome?
[05:00] <tzadik> remove it?
[05:00] <bur[n] er_> yeah, it's not what you want
[05:00] <tzadik> i have gnome yes
[05:00] <Psi-Jack> For some reason, my new Kubuntu installation's startup, does /not/ bring up eth0. How do I fix that?
[05:00] <tzadik> ok
[05:00] <Ocius> Toma-   storage.cdrom.dvdram = false  (bool)
[05:00] <Ocius>   storage.cdrom.dvdrw = false  (bool)
[05:00] <tzadik> i will remove
[05:00] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: system->preferences->remote desktop
[05:01] <tzadik> first how do i stop the vncserver
[05:01] <Toma-> Ocius, thats ok. as long as storage.cdrom.dvd = true is returned
[05:01] <tzadik> before i remove it?
[05:01] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: gnome uses a thing called "vino" to display the current screen... vncserver is for fake displays
[05:01] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: sudo invoke.rc-d vncserver stop
[05:01] <bur[n] er_> ?
[05:01] <Ocius> it is true
[05:01] <maxbern> wastrel,
[05:01] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: sudo invoke.rc-d Xvnc stop
[05:01] <bur[n] er_> maybe that too, i forget
[05:01] <mordof> ..... im gonna break something, honestly
[05:01] <mordof> i am so close right now to going back to windows and dropping this altogether
[05:01] <tzadik> sudo invoke.rc-d vncserver stop
[05:01] <bur[n] er_> lol @ mordof
[05:02] <tzadik> sudo: invoke.rc-d: command not found
[05:02] <wastrel> maxbern:  try it with a disk in the drive
[05:02] <mordof> i cant get into X at all, last reboot all i could see was fuzz and blocks, i had to restart my computer by holding the power button
[05:02] <mordof> and now X has fucked up on me AGAIN! after twice reinstalling the drivers!
[05:02] <maxbern> thanks it works
[05:02] <_jason> tzadik: it's invoke-rc.d
[05:02] <bur[n] er_> mordof: what kind of video card?  did you dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and pick the right setup?
[05:02] <Toma-> mordof, stop doing silly things :D
[05:02] <wastrel> maxbern:  try it without the sudo, it should work with a disk in the drive
[05:03] <mordof> bur[n] er_: 6800xt, no i didnt know i had to
[05:03] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: listen to _jason, my bad ;)
[05:03] <Ocius> so far i love linux over windows
[05:03] <Ocius> and im a gamer
[05:03] <mordof> Toma-: silly things? like what
[05:03] <Ocius> but the learning curve is rediculous
[05:03] <Ralith> I have a fresh install, and nothing can play MP3s.
[05:03] <Toma-> mordof, i dunno.
[05:03] <bur[n] er_> mordof: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and see if that fixes things
[05:03] <_jason> ubotu: tell Ralith about mp3
[05:03] <Ralith> Everything claims they're not valid files
[05:03] <wastrel> Ocius:  it takes a while to get comfortable :]
[05:03] <Ocius> im way better then i was yesterday
[05:03] <Ocius> im remembering comands for terminal
[05:03] <Ralith> _jason: thanks
[05:03] <Ocius> so its getting less painful
[05:03] <Fub> is there someway to change the order in which programs start at boot?
[05:03] <_jason> ubotu: tell Ocius about rute
[05:04] <tzadik> removed it
[05:04] <mordof> bur[n] er_: xserver-org is not installed
[05:04] <_jason> Ocius: if you read that, you will be more than comfortable
[05:04] <bur[n] er_> mordof: xserver-xorg :P
[05:04] <wastrel> ubotu: tell me about rute
[05:04] <mordof> oh
[05:04] <wastrel> ooh i got reprimanded by ubotu
[05:04] <Ocius> i just want my dvd drive to work right
[05:04] <Ocius> after that ill write research papers on this stuff
[05:05] <holobyted> has anyone here compiled KFTPGrabber?
[05:05] <wastrel> hmm dvd eh
[05:05] <wastrel> my drive works but there's no good players
[05:05] <Toma-> Ocius, have you googled the error? im out of ideas :|
[05:05] <wastrel> i usuallly reboot for dvd's
[05:05] <bur[n] er_> wastrel: totem doesn't do it for you?
[05:05] <Ocius> lol toma
[05:05] <Ocius> ive looked everywhere
[05:05] <Ocius> Dvd problems are huge on Ubuntu
[05:05] <bur[n] er_> wastrel: u have totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
[05:05] <Ocius> but none of them are like mine
[05:06] <tzadik> now the vncviewer on the windows laptop should work?
[05:06] <wastrel> bur[n] er_:  totem doesn't work for hardly anything on my system, i use mplayer mostly
[05:06] <Ocius> it has to be something with it reading the drive from a certain location or something
[05:06] <seishi> if the synaptics is downloading some packages.. and i interrupt it... that half-packages will stay on cache ??
[05:06] <tzadik> without doing anything on the router?
[05:06] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: did you configure the gnome vnc server?
[05:06] <Ocius> i was able to trick it into showing me the files for like 2 seconds earlier by making a dubmie folder
[05:06] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: if they're both behind the router, no other config is necessary in the router
[05:06] <Ocius> which it then overwrote and gave me an error
[05:06] <wastrel> bur[n] er_:  but yes, totem kindof works for dvd's but the menus don't work
[05:06] <Ocius> but i saw the files
[05:06] <Ocius> so far i know the drive is fine and the dvd is fine
[05:06] <Ocius> its just ubuntu not liking it
[05:07] <kwewu14> why would nvidia-glx not work?
[05:07] <bur[n] er_> Ocius: u have libdvdread ?
[05:07] <kwewu14> i have an nvidia card.
[05:07] <Toma-> Ocius, ok, try "mount -t udf /dev/hda /mnt"
[05:07] <tzadik> wow
[05:07] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: it workin for ya now?
[05:07] <Ocius> lol
[05:07] <Ocius> only root can do that
[05:07] <tzadik> i am now connected from the laptop!!!
[05:07] <tzadik> that is so cool
[05:08] <tzadik> thanks so much for helping!!
[05:08] <Toma-> Ocius, ok, same thing with sudo infront
[05:08] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: you're welcome :)
[05:08] <snooze_> hrmpf
[05:08] <tzadik> now i can work on my ubuntu box from my sofa
[05:08] <seishi> tzadik,  if the synaptics is downloading some packages.. and i interrupt it... that half-packages will stay on cache ??
[05:08] <snooze_> tzadik: :)
[05:08] <Ocius> Holy crap
[05:08] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: forward port 5900 in your router to your ubuntu box if you want external vnc to work
[05:08] <Ocius> it opened the fucking dvd
[05:08] <tzadik> instead of hanging out in the basemen
[05:08] <snooze_> i like "Helicopter" by "Bloc Party" somehow.
[05:08] <Ocius> thast a step forward my friend
[05:08] <tzadik> basement
[05:08] <Toma-> Ocius, like, ejected it?
[05:08] <Ocius> no
[05:08] <tzadik> cool!
[05:08] <Ocius> pulled open the files
[05:08] <Ocius> block device /dev/hda is write-protected, mounting read-only
[05:08] <Toma-> mounted it?
[05:08] <Toma-> hehehe :D
[05:08] <Ocius> thats what it sent back
[05:09] <tzadik> i wonder if it would work from my work
[05:09] <snooze_> bur[n] er_: not just only you :)
[05:09] <wastrel> vnc is an interesting idea
[05:09] <oklinux>  can you have gnome and kde at the same box ?
[05:09] <wastrel> i have a lot of chores to do on my desktop besides vnc tho
[05:09] <snooze_> oklinux: i do
[05:09] <wastrel> oklinux:  yes
[05:09] <Toma-> ok Ocius.... looks suspiciously like you need a new fstab.
[05:09] <Ocius> ok
[05:09] <Goldfisch> vnc and putty are independent tools. I use both to get the desired effect.
[05:09] <tzadik> can i unplug my monitor?
[05:09] <Ocius> walk me through it dude
[05:09] <Psi-Jack> I just got a Kubuntu system installed, /barely/ due to a flakey CD-ROM drive. But some things aren't working. When I boot up, eth0 is not being brought up automatically, however, lo is, and ifup eth0 brings it up. How can I fix this so that it's started at boot-time?
[05:09] <anto9us> tzadik, better to forward port 22 and route vnc over a secure ssh connection, command is 'ssh -C <ip address> -L 5900:localhost:5900
[05:09] <snooze_> oklinux: just install ubuntu and do "apt-get install kde"
[05:10] <Toma-> Ocius, no idea :D ill work it out.
[05:10] <snooze_> oklinux: should do so far
[05:10] <Psi-Jack> Mind you, this is a server install, /not/ a desktop install.
[05:10] <johnnybezak> anyone here have any experince with Gnu Mailman?
[05:10] <Ocius> i really dont wanna reinstall
[05:10] <wastrel> Psi-Jack:  put auto eth0  in your /etc/network/interfaces
[05:10] <snooze_> oklinux: after that, you can easily start kde with "startkde" from .xinitrc
[05:10] <Ocius> ive done that 3 times in 2 days
[05:10] <Ocius> getting sick of it :(
[05:10] <anto9us> tzadik, then you would connect vnc client to localhost
[05:10] <Toma-> Ocius, pfft reinstall for fstab? no way.
[05:10] <Ocius> starting to feel like windows with the reinstalling when things go wrong
[05:10] <snooze_> reinstalling makes you free.
[05:10] <Ocius> heh
[05:10] <Psi-Jack> wastrel: Hmm. Why? Neither of my two other computers have that. Why does that ONE need it? :)
[05:10] <Ocius> when i dont know what im doing
[05:10] <Ocius> i reinstall
[05:11] <Ocius> linux nub, windows pro
[05:11] <Ocius> also
[05:11] <snooze_> Ocius: tipp: make yourself some nice shell scripts that do all the manual parts after installing a system.
[05:11] <Ocius> yeah
[05:11] <Ocius> now i gotta learn how to do shell scripts
[05:11] <Ocius> hooray :(
[05:11] <wastrel> Psi-Jack:  your other 2 are magic?  i dunno. that's what works forme :]
[05:11] <snooze_> Ocius: #!/bin/bash
[05:11] <wastrel> s/forme/for me/
[05:11] <snooze_> Ocius: and after that the commands
[05:11] <Ocius> someone tell me a quick way to get windows codecs
[05:11] <holobyted> anyone ever compile KFTPGrabber?  I'll /try/ it, but I don't like inconsistancies. heh
[05:12] <cdehaan> Is there a way to change the ubuntu logo in gnome to blue?
[05:12] <snooze_> and i HATE those new gtk2 file selection dialogs.
[05:12] <Ocius> snooze
[05:12] <Ocius> what is that for?
[05:12] <snooze_> they suck galaxies through beer bottles.
[05:12] <mordof> hey look at that my X still doesn't work
[05:12] <wastrel> snooze_:  omg yes they are the worst!
[05:12] <snooze_> Ocius: a sha-bang?
[05:12] <snooze_> Ocius: that #!/bin/bash stuff?
[05:12] <Ocius>  dont torture me
[05:12] <SeyToN> i got a problem with .bin file
[05:12] <Ocius> Toma is working hard to help here
[05:12] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: yes, it can send sound
[05:12] <snooze_> Ocius: it just indicates that the file starting with it is being executed by /bin/bash
[05:12] <wastrel> snooze_:  they're almost a dealbreaker for me but i just can't get comfortable in kde
[05:12] <_jason> SeyToN: what's the problem and what is the file
[05:12] <mordof> bur[n] er_: didnt do any good
[05:13] <Goldfisch> vnc does NOT forward sound.
[05:13] <snooze_> wastrel: kde is cool.
[05:13] <SeyToN> can i type the problem here?
[05:13] <SeyToN> jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[05:13] <SeyToN> root@linux:/home/kevin/programs/java# chmod a+x jre-1_5_0-linux-i586.bin
[05:13] <SeyToN> chmod: cannot access `jre-1_5_0-linux-i586.bin': No such file or directory
[05:13] <spazzz> Anyone know how to configure a joystick?
[05:13] <Ocius> damn windows registry
[05:13] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: scratch that... rdesktop can do sound, not vnc afaik
[05:13] <eno> ubotu send me the link about the apt get servers
[05:13] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, eno
[05:13] <Ocius> and all your spyware signatures
[05:13] <snooze_> wastrel: it's shit and crap, but it's MUCH better than this new gnome shit.
[05:13] <_jason> SeyToN: why do you ask and just do it?, in the future please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:13] <snooze_> wastrel: use it.
[05:13] <bur[n] er_> shitty mordof, using breezy?  did it ever work?
[05:13] <mordof> bur[n] er_: yeah, it worked before i updated my kernal and then tried to install nvidia drivers.
[05:13] <spazzz> Or rather does anyone know why even though it works fine in calibration a bunch of buttons won't work in any game?
[05:13] <mordof> bur[n] er_: i was fine before i tried to install any drivers
[05:13] <tzadik> yeah... it seems like it's not sending the sound
[05:13] <Ocius> Toma- any ideas
[05:13] <snooze_> mordof: same problem here.
[05:13] <_jason> SeyToN: that usually means the file isn't in that directory.  Can you do 'ls' and check if it is there?
[05:14] <tzadik> is it ok to unplug the monitor?
[05:14] <tzadik> or will that mess up my vnc
[05:14] <tzadik> ?
[05:14] <snooze_> mordof: may i have your email address regarding this problem?
[05:14] <anto9us> tzadik, rdesktop can be ssh'd in the same way, I think the port is 3389
[05:14] <snooze_> mordof: via /msg or so?
[05:14] <mordof> bur[n] er_: whats the difference between installing them BEFORE a kernel update, and after
[05:14] <wastrel> snooze_:  nah i'm just holding out the hope that someone will write a drop-in replacement that's not so awful... i'm too used to gnome to switch, i got all what windowmanager shopping out of my system years ago
[05:14] <snooze_> mordof: i would like to ask you tomorrow when i tried solving that problem.
[05:14] <tzadik> how do i get ssh running?
[05:14] <bur[n] er_> mordof: if you update a kernel, you need kernel modules compield against that kernel
[05:14] <tzadik> rdesktop
[05:14] <mordof> snooze_: dunno if you got that, im in terminal
[05:14] <Mogus> Evening all
[05:15] <Mogus> I have a quick ubuntu question regarding the live CD.
[05:15] <mordof> bur[n] er_: i compiled them against my current kernel, doesn't work
[05:15] <wastrel> tzadik:  should be ok to unplug the monitor
[05:15] <snooze_> mine  Palmstrm reist, mit einem Herrn v. Korf,
[05:15] <snooze_> in ein sogenanntes Bhmisches Dorf.
[05:15] <snooze_> Unverstndlich bleibt ihm alles dort,
[05:15] <snooze_> von dem ersten bis zum letzten Wort.
[05:15] <snooze_> Auch v. Korf (der nur des Reimes wegen
[05:15] <snooze_> ihn begleitet) ist um Rat verlegen.
[05:15] <_jason> tzadik: sudo apt-get install opennssh-server
[05:15] <spazzz> anyone?
[05:15] <snooze_> Doch just dieses macht ihn bla vor Glck.
[05:15] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: apt-get install openssh-server
[05:15] <eno> can someone please type the thing that makes ubotu send me the link to make a new synaptic list
[05:15] <snooze_> Tiefentzckt kehrt unser Freund zurck.
[05:15] <snooze_> Und er schreibt in seine Wochenchronik:
[05:15] <overflow-1> does 5.10 come with support for reiserfs 4.0?
[05:15] <anto9us> tzadik, 'sudo apt-get install ssh' will install it as a service
[05:15] <snooze_> ooooooooooops
[05:15] <mordof> omg SNOOZE!
[05:15] <_jason> snooze_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please
[05:15] <snooze_> sry
[05:15] <Razor-X> What could cause this error: http://pastebin.com/555444 .
[05:15] <overflow-1> cat /proc/filesystems says no
[05:15] <Ocius> Toma- done left me alone i see :(
[05:15] <Razor-X> And yes, I have my kernel headers.
[05:15] <Psi-Jack> wastrel: Well.... It worked..
[05:15] <nmm> im going to be needing to create an iso cd, whats a name of a program that will create an iso that i can dl?
[05:15] <snooze_> sorry everyone
[05:15] <Toma-> Ocius, no, looking for ways to re-gen fstab
[05:15] <mordof> thats so hard on the amount of space i have to watch for people talking, lol
[05:15] <Ocius> Toma- phew ok
[05:15] <Mogus> I'm trying to change permissions on a USB disk that I have, but I don't know the root password.
[05:15] <_jason> SeyToN: are you following the wiki for installing java?
[05:15] <tzadik> monitor is unplugged
[05:15] <mordof> im on like 640x480 in a cli irc... soo bad
[05:15] <spazzz> .....
[05:15] <Ocius> snooze
[05:15] <Mogus> is there a default password for root for thelive cd?
[05:15] <tzadik> working
[05:15] <tzadik> !
[05:16] <ubotu> tzadik: Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:16] <Ocius> be useful and help me find windows codecs
[05:16] <_jason> Mogus: nope, use sudo
[05:16] <MacSlow> ehm... is http://www.xfree86.org really offline?!
[05:16] <mordof> bur[n] er_: if i install the driver before the kernel update, do i have to do anything after the update though?
[05:16] <_jason> ubotu: tell Mogus about sudo
[05:16] <tzadik> so i can install ssh
[05:16] <Ralith> _jason: followed that guide and I still get the same errors.
[05:16] <wastrel> Psi-Jack:  that's the standard way to start an interface on boot AFAIK... if there's another method i'd be interested to hear about it :]
[05:16] <Mogus> _jason: thank uyou
[05:16] <Mogus> er, you
[05:16] <snooze_> Ocius: :)
[05:16] <bur[n] er_> mordof: why not go back to the "nv" driver without 3d accel just to have a working X?
[05:16] <tzadik> then what do i run on the windows laptop?
[05:16] <Razor-X> Wow, not being in X makes terminal emulators so much more... attractive.
[05:16] <_jason> Ralith: what errors
[05:16] <SeyToN> im following the java instructions from the java website : \
[05:16] <bur[n] er_> or "nvidia" driver, I forget in Nvidia world
[05:16] <Psi-Jack> wastrel: The way Kubuntu /appears/ to do it, is through using hotplug, but it's not working on that particular system for some reason.
[05:16] <snooze_> mordof: check your email.
[05:17] <mordof> bur[n] er_: i JUST bought a 6800xt... its a waste of money if i cant even use it :(
[05:17] <Ralith> _jason: mp3s are unplayable.
[05:17] <mordof> snooze_: how do i do tht in cli
[05:17] <pestilence> does anybody use gtkpod with their ipod?  i added some videos to my ipod using it, and when i synced in windows itunes it deleted the videos.  is this to be expected?
[05:17] <amphi> Razor-X: you don't have framebuffer console?
[05:17] <Ralith> _jason: installed all the varieties of gstreamer I could find.
[05:17] <snooze_> mordof: cli?
[05:17] <Psi-Jack> wastrel: But then again, Kubuntu and Ubuntu use the exact same installer, so they're pretty much identical in most regards.
[05:17] <_jason> Ralith: gstreamer0.8-mad installed without errors?
[05:17] <eno> ubotu tell me about sources.list
[05:17] <Ralith> _jason: including gstreamer0.9-mad
[05:17] <bur[n] er_> mordof: i'm sure it'll work, i just don't have any experience with nvidia :\ sorry
[05:17] <Ralith> _jason: yep
[05:17] <mordof> snooze_: no X access
[05:17] <wastrel> Psi-Jack:  yeah i'm not too familiar with kde...
[05:17] <snooze_> mordof: no clue :)
[05:17] <mordof> gah! now i cant even access my email!
[05:17] <amphi> mordof: what do you normally use for mail?
[05:17] <nmm> burning iso image, good program? anyone know?
[05:17] <Psi-Jack> wastrel: That system doesn't even have KDE. :)
[05:17] <mordof> amphi: gmail
[05:17] <Razor-X> amphi: Nope. Even still, this doesen't seem to work with my Meta key.
[05:18] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: how are you trying to play the mp3s?
[05:18] <_jason> Ralith: gst-register-0.8
[05:18] <Psi-Jack> wastrel: Nor X. It's a bare minimum server install.
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> nmm,  under linux - k3b, under windows = "burn at once" :P
[05:18] <Mogus> Jason: you the man. THanks. :)
[05:18] <anto9us> tzadik, putty is a good ssh client for windows it does port forwarding too
[05:18] <nmm> ok
[05:18] <amphi> mordof: links _might_ be able to access it
[05:18] <Ralith> _jason: trying it
[05:18] <_jason> Ralith: sorry, enter 'gst-register-0.8' in a terminal, accessories > terminal
[05:18] <wastrel> putty is my favorite windows app
[05:18] <mordof> amphi: it has SSL and all that that MUST be configured to get at it
[05:18] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: and winscp is a nice ssh file transfer app :)
[05:18] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: totem, rhytmbox.
[05:18] <wastrel> that and world of warcraft :]
[05:18] <spazzz> Does anyone have any idea why the Directional pad buttons on my controller work when i'm calibrating the joystick but won't work when I try to use it in any kind of game or emulator?
[05:18] <mordof> amphi: besides, my gmail account is set to have pop access off
[05:18] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: do that gst-register thing ;)
[05:18] <Ralith> heh
[05:18] <Ralith> ok
[05:19] <amphi> mordof: gmail needs javascript support, unless they did the non-javascript interface they talked about long agp
[05:19] <tzadik> pretty cool that i am running vnc viewer full screen on my windows laptop
[05:19] <amphi> *ago
[05:19] <mordof> amphi: they made a non-js
[05:19] <tzadik> it looks exactly like a local ubuntu
[05:19] <amphi> mordof: cool
[05:19] <mordof> amphi: all i need is a browser for cli
[05:19] <tzadik> no delay or anything
[05:19] <Razor-X> mordof: w3m
[05:19] <tzadik> over wireless
[05:19] <mordof> Razor-X: thanks
[05:19] <Ralith> _jason: didn't work
[05:19] <Razor-X> So, uh, can anyone help me with my X troubles?
[05:19] <tzadik> all that is missing is sound
[05:19] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: no luck
[05:19] <_jason> Ralith: close the apps and open them again
[05:19] <mordof> Razor-X: k i typed that in and i have no idea how to use it
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> gee i use vnc all the time with no hassles.
[05:20] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: breezy?
[05:20] <tzadik> so what is better than vnc?
[05:20] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: nothing
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> i dont use that "share desktop' - i run seperate vnc 'desktops'
[05:20] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: maybe NX
[05:20] <wastrel> mmm w3m is cute
[05:20] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: no, the latest that I can never remember the name of
[05:20] <Goldfisch> tzadik: Having the console right in front of you? Heheh :)
[05:20] <spazzz> Alright I guess i'll just have to try the forums
[05:20] <tzadik> but there is no way to get sound
[05:20] <Toma-> Ocius, ok, i gotta go. work time :( but look for help with your fstab. it seems to be the key.... good luck
[05:20] <pestilence> so nobody here uses itunes and gtkpod with their ipod?
[05:20] <tzadik> right?
[05:20] <Ralith> _jason: I tried that, of course :P
[05:20] <mordof> .....
[05:20] <Razor-X> mordof: `U' (remember, case sensitive) to go to a URL, C-n to go down a line, `w' to go to the next word, yeah.
[05:20] <mordof> my computer is as good as dead
[05:20] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: dapper... you need gstreamer0.10-mad then :)
[05:20] <_jason> Ralith: they should work :/
[05:20] <_jason> oh
[05:20] <Razor-X> mordof: I use the CLI even with X :D.
[05:20] <Razor-X> mordof: By the way, hit `H' for help.
[05:20] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: in dapper, rhythmbox and totem use the new gstreamer
[05:21] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: :P
[05:21] <Goldfisch> Shared desktops (vino) is nice, because then I run evolution on the my desktop, and can later see it remotely, without stopping it on one desktop and restarting on another.
[05:21] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: alright
[05:21] <graft> erm... so I've got this xserver error, where it dies with: Failed to load module "bitmap" (module does not exist, 0)
[05:21] <amphi> mordof: then apt-get install w3m and use that to read your gmail mail
[05:21] <Razor-X> Stupid glx >_<
[05:21] <graft> anyone seen any such?
[05:21] <Razor-X> .
[05:21] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: no such package
[05:21] <Ralith> er, wait
[05:21] <Ralith> typo
[05:21] <Ralith> heh
[05:21] <Ralith> still no such package.
[05:21] <pestilence> graft, what if you comment that module out of your xorg.conf
[05:21] <mordof> amphi: i already have it, but it wont load gmail
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> graft,  i saw that  - when using a 'mepis xorg.conf' file today. instead of the ubuntu one.
[05:22] <graft> well what's the offending line?
[05:22] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: try this... sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10*
[05:22] <amphi> mordof: does here, I just tried
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> graft,  but i dont think thats a 'failing' kind of error.. sure theres not some other error/message?
[05:22] <mordof> amphi: what did you type to get to it?
[05:22] <graft> bitmap is a required module
[05:22] <graft> X won't start without it
[05:22] <amphi> mordof: w3m gmail.com
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> graft,  i never found what line/module was wanting it.
[05:22] <mordof> amphi: k
[05:22] <kryptoz> gud morning !
[05:22] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: whee, that's a lot of packages. Installing.
[05:22] <Nightshade> is it common for the hard drive light to stay on solid from the point where the system boots into X?
[05:23] <tzadik> how do i troubleshoot a video problem
[05:23] <amphi> mordof: I had to follow one redirect manually, as I have w3m set not to follow them automatically, which is not the default IIRC
[05:23] <mordof> amphi: i do that and nothing shows up, i get a blank screen
[05:23] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: you could always try to use beep-media-player or totem-xine if this doesn't work
[05:23] <misfit_toy> Nightshade: shouldn't be
[05:23] <tzadik> i am trying to watch a video on mlb.com
[05:23] <xX_Digz_Xx> Hello is there a way to get the side buttons on a mouse working on ubuntu 5.10?
[05:23] <tzadik> and it crashes firefox
[05:23] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: yeah, and vlc and mplayer seem to work now that I've tried them. However, I'd like to fix this anyway.
[05:23] <_jason> ubotu: tell xX_Digz_Xx about mouse
[05:23] <anto9us> tzadik, freenx is like vnc, it supports sound
[05:23] <tzadik> cool
[05:23] <bur[n] er_> talisein: apt-get install mozilla-mplayer ?
[05:24] <tzadik> freenx has a windows viewer?
[05:24] <misfit_toy> freenx is da schnizitz! very cool
[05:24] <Nightshade> misfit_toy, i have a 250gb sata drive, and from the time X loads till now, the hard drive light has been on.
[05:24] <mordof> ok! big question... i installed ubuntu everything on my 250gb hd, but i installed /home dirs on my 80gb hd, if i reinstall ubuntu can i do it with it using my current /hom directory?
[05:24] <misfit_toy> tzadik: yes it will do windows
[05:24] <Nightshade> and for some reason it seems that system performance is degraded because of it
[05:24] <bur[n] er_> mordof: yes
[05:25] <misfit_toy> Nightshade: doesn't sound right to me at all, but I don't have any SATA drives here, have you looked at ubuntuforums.org?
[05:25] <tzadik> misfit: and i don't have to install or change anything on the ubuntu side?
[05:25] <amphi> mordof: also works in lynx
[05:25] <tzadik> to frun freenx?
[05:25] <tzadik> to run
[05:25] <anto9us> mordof, just tell the partitioner to use that partition as /home but don't format it
[05:25] <misfit_toy> tzadik: you need the freenx client is all
[05:25] <mordof> anto9us: k
[05:25] <Nightshade> misfit_toy, i have, but it looks like i might have to post something finally.  :)
[05:25] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: there's a bit to do to set up freenx server
[05:25] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: stilldoesn't work
[05:25] <mordof> bur[n] er_: im gonna reinstall but this time im gonna install the nvidia drivers before i update my kernel... see if that works
[05:25] <johnnybezak> anybody know how to restrict who can send mail to a Gnu Mailman list?
[05:25] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: libmad0 ?
[05:25] <misfit_toy> Nightshade: grrr
[05:25] <mordof> anyone know of a terminal audio player?
[05:26] <bur[n] er_> mordof: i'd go the other way around
[05:26] <mordof> cli audio
[05:26] <mordof> bur[n] er_: what do you mean?
[05:26] <amphi> mordof: mpg123, ogg123
[05:26] <tzadik> is there a good website for freenx?
[05:26] <wastrel> mordof:  there's a ton...  i don't know them offhand
[05:26] <tzadik> on the ubuntu site maybe?
[05:26] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: google.com/
[05:26] <anto9us> mordof, alsaplayer
[05:26] <wastrel> mordof:  mpg123 mpg321
[05:26] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: trying
[05:26] <tzadik> ok
[05:26] <amphi> mordof: mplayer will also play audio files
[05:26] <mordof> any that ubuntu comes with? :P
[05:26] <Nightshade> misfit_toy, unless i can fake debian into booting a kernel from ubuntu so it has sata drivers
[05:26] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: already installed
[05:26] <amphi> mordof: you can apt-get whatever you want from console
[05:26] <tzadik> how do i go about troubleshooting a video problem?
[05:26] <tzadik> some videos work
[05:27] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: u can apt-get install totem-xine and that may work for totem at least, though I'm not sure about rb... rb uses gstreamer
[05:27] <mordof> bur[n] er_: what did you mean by i should do it the other way around?
[05:27] <tzadik> but there are some on mlb.com
[05:27] <Nightshade> misfit_toy, seems like ubuntu is the only distro i've seen so far that supports my sata chipset from the installer
[05:27] <tzadik> that crash firefox
[05:27] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: I installed totem-xine a while back, totem still won't play it
[05:27] <Razor-X> Hmmm, so can someone help me get GLX working?
[05:27] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: here's the exact error
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> tzadik,  codec issues sounds like.. could download them - then try to play them seperatly from firefix
[05:27] <Rakko> Using a liveCD/DVD, can I remove the disc at some point and keep using the system?
[05:27] <tzadik> i can't download them
[05:27] <SeyToN> how do i test java its working fine?
[05:27] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: paste page if it's large ;)
[05:27] <tzadik> i can't even figure out what the file is
[05:27] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: Audio codec 'MPEG 1 Layer 3 CBR' is no thandled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies.
[05:27] <vladuz976> can someone tell me the diff between automatix and easyubuntu?
[05:28] <amphi> Rakko: if it's one of the ones that copies itself entirely to ram
[05:28] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: not handled*
[05:28] <Rakko> amphi: what are those ones called?
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> vladuz976,  it will proberly be said to not use either one. :P
[05:28] <tzadik> there is just a link that uses javascript to play it
[05:28] <ownerx> easyubuntu is better
[05:28] <anto9us> !tell tzadik about restrictedformats
[05:28] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: i honestly don't know :\
[05:28] <vladuz976> Dr_Willis: how come?
[05:28] <Ralith> :/
[05:28] <mordof> bur[n] er_: hello?
[05:28] <Rakko> eh, actually, I don't think I'd have the RAM for that
[05:28] <Ralith> _jason: you?
[05:28] <vladuz976> Dr_Willis: on the forum they praise it
[05:28] <mordof> bur[n] er_: need to know before i reinstall..
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> vladuz976,  they can do a lot of things - and can break things
[05:28] <amphi> Rakko: ISTR that knoppix could do it; the sysresccd.org iso can, which is more of a recovery and tools iso
[05:28] <tzadik> i think i installed all the restricted formats
[05:28] <Rakko> ok. I will check that out
[05:29] <tzadik> i found an ubunto page that gave instructions
[05:29] <tzadik> maybe i missed something
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> vladuz976,  its 'best' to learn what they are doing and do the steps yourself. noting they do is that fancy.
[05:29] <graft> anyone fiddle with NVIDIA drivers for xorg 7.0.0?
[05:29] <ownerx> the creator of automatix is a script kiddy
[05:29] <anto9us> tzadik, some sites just don't work, they wish to narrow down their market to windows only customers for some reason
[05:29] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: u have universe & multiverse repos?
[05:29] <mordof> bur[n] er_: what did you mean when you said i should try them in another order?
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> and ownerx  is being 'nice' :P
[05:30] <ownerx> lol
[05:30] <bur[n] er_> mordof: kernel, then video driver
[05:30] <mordof> bur[n] er_: thats what i did this time, and it didnt work
[05:30] <nicholasw> Can someone help me setting up WPA?
[05:30] <tzadik> sigh....
[05:30] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: to the extent of my knowledge, yes
[05:30] <snooze_> here's a little sooong i wrooote, you might want to sing it nooote for noooote, don't worryyyy, beeeeeeeeee happy *jump*
[05:30] <bur[n] er_> mordof: i wouldn't give up on it
[05:30] <tzadik> i need my mlb.com
[05:30] <Ralith> _jason: you there?
[05:30] <snooze_> tzadik: man whois :)
[05:30] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: open your /etc/apt/sources.list and find out :)
[05:31] <nicholasw> I'm looking at the wiki and am confused
[05:31] <mordof> snooze_: before i format im gonna go check my email on the lappy
[05:31] <snooze_> mordof: lol
[05:31] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: do you have gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[05:31] <wastrel> the totem plugin for mozilla/firefox sucks.  mplayer works much much better
[05:31] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: I added 'multiverse' to the end of several of the lines tehre
[05:31] <wastrel> (in breezy at least)
[05:31] <snooze_> mordof: i just told you MY addr.
[05:31] <bur[n] er_> speaking of totem plugin... anyone try the dapper one yet?
[05:31] <wastrel> also the mplayer plugin doesn't crash the browser when you use the back button
[05:31] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: yep
[05:31] <snooze_> mordof: i will discover my problem with the nvidia driver tomorrow
[05:31] <anto9us> tzadik, it works for me
[05:31] <snooze_> mordof: in particular
[05:31] <mordof> snooze_: oh ok
[05:31] <snooze_> mordof: not now
[05:31] <snooze_> mordof: too drunk now
[05:31] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: close and re-open rhythmbox?
[05:31] <mordof> snooze_: lmao
[05:32] <snooze_> :)
[05:32] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: did that ages ago, and I've been testing with totem anyway.
[05:32] <anto9us> tzadik, you need to install flash
[05:32] <ownerx> totem is good if you install totem-xine
[05:32] <wastrel> i don't know why people like totem :]   mplayer seems so much better
[05:32] <bur[n] er_> Ralith: try the totem-xine thing ;)
[05:32] <bur[n] er_> totem is a prettier interface imo
[05:32] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: wow, it spontaneously started working
[05:32] <bur[n] er_> lol
[05:32] <mordof> bur[n] er_: while im at it.. is there a different distro you recommend?
[05:32] <Protocol1> cool I got gmail to work off my thunderbird
[05:32] <Ralith> bur[n] er_: it must've needed to propogate or something
[05:33] <bur[n] er_> mordof: ubuntu or kubuntu :)
[05:33] <wastrel> i don't use gmplayer... prefer keyboard commands anyway
[05:33] <tzadik> the first page is ok
[05:33] <tzadik> i think that is flash
[05:33] <snooze_> apropos gmail
[05:33] <mordof> bur[n] er_: well im already on ubuntu so ill just stick with that
[05:33] <snooze_> can i let gmail fetch some pop3 accounts?
[05:33] <tzadik> hold on i will get the page
[05:33] <anto9us> tzadik, what doesn't work?
[05:33] <tzadik> that doesn't work
[05:33] <graft> damnit
[05:33] <H> hi everyone
[05:33] <snooze_> i just have some pop3 accounts that don't support forwarding that stuff to another account
[05:33] <Protocol1> snooze_ , yup
[05:34] <graft> does anyone know if you can use nvidia drivers with xorg 7.0.0?
[05:34] <snooze_> and i would like to fetch them via gmail
[05:34] <Protocol1> i just set mine up a few minutes ago
[05:34] <snooze_> Protocol1: ?
[05:34] <snooze_> Protocol1: why am i too stupid too find it in preferences?
[05:34] <vwguy337> anyone using breezy on a mac?
[05:34] <Protocol1> snooze_, did you need help
[05:35] <snooze_> mordof: i can't answer you via query cause i did not register yet. :(
[05:35] <mordof> bur[n] er_: ok... off to format, for the third time this week :S
[05:35] <snooze_> Protocol1: maybe? :)
[05:35] <mordof> snooze_: oh ok
[05:35] <mordof> bur[n] er_: ubuntu is seeming less reliable than windows at this point
[05:35] <nicholasw> Does anyone know hoto setup WPA?
[05:35] <ownerx> mordof blasphemy
[05:35] <tzadik> ok... go to mlb.com, then look for the Video section, and click on the first link, labeled "350K"
[05:35] <vladuz976> Dr_Willis: the codecs easyubuntu installs. where else can i get those from?
[05:36] <wastrel> what's wpa?
[05:36] <Protocol1> snooze_: check this out   http://kb.mozillazine.org/Using_Gmail_with_Thunderbird_and_Mozilla_Suite
[05:36] <mordof> ownerx: then how come i cant get into X and i have to format? i just installed ubuntu this afternoon
[05:36] <tzadik> that crashes firefox
[05:36] <snooze_> Protocol1: if i can bother you via icq,mail,aim let me know, would be fantastic, but i just want to go to sleep, have to go to the hospital tomorrow and the will put a needle in my veighn to let half a liter flow inside me :)
[05:36] <snooze_> ah
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> vladuz976,  could check the Mplayer homepage - they have several collections
[05:36] <ownerx> mordof you shouldnt have to format
[05:36] <snooze_> a LINK!
[05:36] <snooze_> see!
[05:36] <snooze_> Protocol1: thanks a lot! :)
[05:36] <mordof> ownerx: then help me fix it :P i cant
[05:36] <ownerx> did you try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:36] <snooze_> Protocol1: but uhm
[05:36] <Protocol1> bookmark it
[05:36] <mordof> ownerx: yes, didnt work
[05:36] <snooze_> Protocol1: i want to continue using the web interface only
[05:36] <mordof> ownerx: ive also tried reinstalling my drivers
[05:36] <bur[n] er_> mordof: it's just an nvidia driver issue, i'm sure it can be fixed, try the forums or wiki?
[05:36] <Protocol1> ok...fine
[05:36] <ownerx> try selecting vesa
[05:37] <snooze_> Protocol1: i do NOT want to use thunderbird.
[05:37] <Protocol1> whatever works for you
[05:37] <wastrel> i really like thunderbird
[05:37] <snooze_> Protocol1: just the webinterface and gmail should just fetch some pop3 accounts.
[05:37] <mordof> bur[n] er_: i cant get on the forums or wiki.. besides using the computer on the other side of the house, but people want to go to bed
[05:37] <snooze_> Protocol1: is it discovered there, too?
[05:37] <mordof> ownerx: how do i do that
[05:37] <snooze_> wastrel: i want it the webmail way cause i'm constantly somewhere else.
[05:37] <Protocol1> yeah in the preferences
[05:37] <wastrel> balsa and sylpheed are other options... haven't used them in a while tho
[05:37] <snooze_> Protocol1: oh!
[05:37] <snooze_> Protocol1: thanks a lot! :)
[05:37] <ownerx> mordof when you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg select vesa as the driver
[05:37] <Protocol1> ok
[05:37] <Protocol1> ttyl
[05:37] <wastrel> snooze_:  oic.  try mail2web.com
[05:37] <ownerx> it should work 90% of the time
[05:38] <snooze_> wastrel: perfect, thanks a lot, too!
[05:38] <mordof> ownerx: i have nv drivers and vid card....
[05:38] <mordof> ill try it though i guess
[05:38] <wastrel> np
[05:38] <anto9us> tzadik, try setting it to use realplayer if you've installed it
[05:38] <tzadik> i can't even click "preferences"
[05:38] <tzadik> to change my player
[05:38] <amonkey> what's a good way to find video dimensions on the command line? file only works on some types
[05:38] <tzadik> that will crash it
[05:39] <tzadik> s
[05:39] <anto9us> tzadik, I'd look into it but it's asking for my money and I'm not a baseball fan
[05:39] <nicholasw> Guys help!
[05:40] <SCI4All> I just shot myself in the foot, and deleted my site-packages directory. I tried reinstalling python but that didn't help. Any ideas?
[05:40] <mordof> ownerx: there, dpkg-reconfigure has been run, now should i try to start x?
[05:41] <ulrik> MAC?
[05:41] <vwguy337> ulrik: mac hardware
[05:42] <anto9us> SCI4All, site-packages are where all the python extras are stored, try re-installing the other packages with python in the name
[05:42] <ulrik> well it's spelt as Mac or mac, not MAC
[05:42] <mebaran151> my forcedeth client refuses to dhcp
[05:42] <ulrik> but anyway, this is ubuntu on an ibook
[05:42] <mebaran151> what can I do
[05:42] <mebaran151> this is in the bios
[05:42] <ulrik> and I have another old mac with dapper
[05:42] <mebaran151> I think I have an nforce4 chipset
[05:42] <vwguy337> ulrik: ok...do you know if breezy will work on the new MacBook with the Intel chipsets?
[05:42] <kryptoz> hey guys ...
[05:43] <tzadik> if anyone wants to help with the mlb problem, give me a private chat
[05:43] <bcherian> Hey guys I'm trying to build a specific application from source, it's called brl-cad. But I get a weird error on make.
[05:43] <tzadik> i will give the password
[05:43] <SCI4All> anto9us, it's a new install so not much was there. I tried to reinstall python-apt with apt-get --reinstall install python-apt.  Nothing
[05:43] <ulrik> vwguy337: no linux will work on them so far, they use EFI, not Open Firmware or BIOS
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> tzadik,  try them under the Opera browser?
[05:44] <tzadik> good point
[05:44] <Mordof> ok... im in X until next restart then it wont work again
[05:44] <vwguy337> ulrik: damn...guess i'm not buying a macbook then
[05:44] <ulrik> vwguy337: in short, the firmware is a new kind that neither linux nor windows is adapted to yet
[05:44] <ulrik> vwguy337: Red Hat is working on it though
[05:44] <ownerx> mordof did startx work
[05:44] <anto9us> SCI4All, use synaptic and get it to list broken packages, that may help
[05:44] <vwguy337> ulrik: i've not been able to get a redhat disty to work on anything so far...LOL
[05:44] <Mordof> ownerx, yeah.. but its glitchy, and next time i restart it wont work again
[05:44] <ulrik> hehe
[05:45] <ownerx> it should do mordof
[05:45] <Mordof> ownerx, but i cant restart my computer!
[05:45] <bur[n] er_> tzadik: mozilla-mplayer was of no use?
[05:45] <La_PaRCa> Is it normal that two different hard disks in the same IDE cable show in fdisk both as hddX
[05:45] <ownerx> because the changes are made to the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:45] <vwguy337> ulrik: now...if i could only get my damn wireless working on this laptop, i could blow away winblows...lol
[05:45] <anto9us> tzadik, you way forward is with realplayer
[05:45] <wastrel> Mordof:  i'm thinking you need to get some video driver modules starting on boot maybe?
[05:45] <ownerx> !nvidia
[05:45] <ubotu> I guess nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:45] <Mordof> wastrel, NO! thats the problem!!!
[05:45] <ulrik> vwguy337: yep, that's the case for many of us. I still don't have wireless working on mine.. though I need to try even harder
[05:46] <tzadik> so install realplayer?
[05:46] <wastrel> Mordof:  ?
[05:46] <SCI4All> It's a server only install, plus I don't think apt thinks any thing is broken. Maybe I'll install on my laptop and copy it over.
[05:46] <bcherian> any help guys on my problem regarding building brl-cad from source
[05:46] <mebaran151> any ideas why my nforce controller can't dhcp
[05:46] <Mordof> wastrel, installing drivers is why im having these problems
[05:46] <vwguy337> ulrik: it's a matter of time for me...i have the files downloaded from the acx111.sf.net page...just don't have time to hack them into the system...lol
[05:46] <mebaran151> I get a mac address and everything
[05:46] <wastrel> my wireless is working.
[05:46] <mebaran151> it dhcp'ed fine when it ran windows
[05:47] <mebaran151> nforce4 chipset
[05:47] <wastrel> mac address is hard-coded into the NIC i believe
[05:47] <anto9us> tzadik, yes, realplayer 10 and set mlb to use it
[05:47] <SCI4All> thanks for the ideas, bye
[05:47] <anto9us> tzadik, works for me on bbc's website
[05:47] <vwguy337> ulrik: thanks for the info!  =]
[05:48] <LaptopZZ> how do you change the gnome icon sizes?
[05:48] <ulrik> vwguy337: no problem
[05:49] <ulrik> LaptopZZ: you can zoom in with ctrl+ and ctrl -
[05:49] <ownerx> wastel, mac address can be changed
[05:49] <ownerx> easily in windows at least
[05:49] <ulrik> LaptopZZ: and you can 'stretch icon' via some menu command
[05:49] <LaptopZZ> ulrik: I mean on the desktop
[05:49] <LaptopZZ> ulrik: my font size is sane
[05:49] <LaptopZZ> ulrik: but the icons are always huge
[05:49] <wastrel> ownerx:  yes but there is a mac address associated with the hardware
[05:49] <ulrik> LaptopZZ: Stretch the icons is what you have to do
[05:49] <mebaran151> wastrel, you can tell it to fudge the mac address tough
[05:49] <ulrik> LaptopZZ: I don't know if you can change the default size
[05:49] <wastrel> i know :]
[05:49] <LaptopZZ> man
[05:49] <LaptopZZ> that's nuts
[05:49] <LaptopZZ> I don't want to resize them all
[05:49] <ulrik> yep
[05:49] <Mordof> ok, i went through that driverhowto thing, im gonna test it now
[05:49] <ulrik> LaptopZZ: I want mine bigger
[05:50] <LaptopZZ> I just want it smaller by default, thanks tho
[05:50] <ulrik> :-)
[05:50] <LaptopZZ> my screen is 1280x768 10.6"
[05:50] <LaptopZZ> I don't need icons the size of my thumb
[05:50] <Eleaf> does anybody want to help me get video out working on my iBook?
[05:50] <Eleaf> I have a huge presentation tomorrow
[05:50] <Eleaf> I need to present it on a projector
[05:50] <Eleaf> This is worth 50% of my final term grade.
[05:50] <Eleaf> mmm
[05:51] <anto9us> LaptopZZ, are you talking about the desktop or in folders?
[05:51] <ulrik> Eleaf: it could be hard. I have an ibook, but I've never tried, so I'm not much help :(
[05:51] <wastrel> Eleaf:  what videocard?
[05:51] <LaptopZZ> anto9us: desktop
[05:51] <Eleaf> hmm
[05:51] <tzadik> what's the best way to install realplayer
[05:51] <Eleaf> wastrel, the default ati one...
[05:51] <Eleaf> ulrik, mmmm
[05:51] <tzadik> add applications doesn't work
[05:52] <ulrik> Eleaf: it could be the ati radeon Mobility M9/9200 something
[05:52] <tzadik> for that
[05:52] <Protocol1> tzadik: from the website
[05:52] <ulrik> or r250 or whatever
[05:52] <wastrel> eleaf i'd imagine hat changes depending on what ibook you have :]
[05:52] <tzadik> it says it can't find
[05:52] <LaptopZZ> anto9us: the folder view is bearable, though I still miss windows style list view
[05:52] <tzadik> which website
[05:52] <ulrik> lots of different names
[05:52] <tzadik> real.com?
[05:52] <Eleaf> ulrik, it's older than that
[05:52] <ulrik> aha
[05:52] <wastrel> Eleaf:  try lspci | grep ATI
[05:52] <ulrik> okay
[05:52] <Eleaf> wastrel, the origional iBook g3
[05:52] <Protocol1> follow the instructions and then get the dependancies
[05:52] <anto9us> LaptopZZ, I'm looking into desktop icons, you have a list view in folders
[05:52] <Eleaf> wastrel, the first white one they ever made
[05:52] <ulrik> hot damn, an old ibook
[05:52] <wastrel> not super familiar with apple hardware ;]
[05:53] <Eleaf> wastrel, it is a rage mobility m3
[05:53] <LaptopZZ> anto9us: I would like multiple columns, not just one
[05:53] <Eleaf> This is huge, if I can't get this to present, I'm screwed.
[05:53] <Protocol1> i really thought about getting an ibook...but a compaq looked more promising
[05:53] <ownerx> doesnt the 'ati' driver work for rage mobility
[05:53] <LaptopZZ> anto9us: my movies folder has 600 movies, it takes a long time to view with one column
[05:53] <Mordof> YES!!! IT WORKS!
[05:53] <wastrel> Eleaf:  you're on breezy/xorg ?
[05:53] <anto9us> LaptopZZ, try zooming out
[05:53] <LaptopZZ> that dodesn't work
[05:53] <Eleaf> wastrel, yes
[05:53] <ulrik> Eleaf: Hate to say it, but to make oneself depend on that you get this to work the night before is quite bad planning
[05:54] <sizzam> when i open animated gifs in 'Eye of Gnome' or 'gqview', the animation doesn't play.  am i missing a library or something that could fix this?
[05:54] <anto9us> LaptopZZ, in icon view
[05:54] <LaptopZZ> but my bigger issue is the desktop
[05:54] <Eleaf> ulrik, I've been trying to get it to work for months actually.
[05:54] <nicholasw> Can someone help me with WPA on a linksys WMP54g
[05:54] <anto9us> LaptopZZ, looking into that
[05:54] <Mordof> ownerx, i did that binaryinstall thing for nvidia... i forgot to do that this time, last time i did that as well but had forgotten, now it works perfectly :D
[05:54] <ulrik> Eleaf: but look on the forums... it should be able to get it to work so that _only_ the external monitor works and not the internal one
[05:54] <ownerx> good to hear mordof
[05:54] <ulrik> Eleaf: try that if everything else fails
[05:54] <LaptopZZ> anto9us: the icon view zoom out works somewhat, but it still gives a huge icon separation
[05:54] <tzadik> ok, i will try that.... thanks all
[05:54] <bcherian> Can someone please help me with building brl-cad from source?
[05:54] <Eleaf> ulrik, I looked there.  It's only for the newer iBooks.  All the posts are years old too.
[05:54] <Eleaf> lol
[05:55] <tzadik> everyone go to sleep
[05:55] <tzadik> lol
[05:55] <Mordof> ownerx, and i can actually reboot my computer from the logout menu option again! before it was disabled.... all is well
[05:55] <Eleaf> ulrik, I would be soo happy if only the external one worked...
[05:55] <Eleaf> that would be great..
[05:55] <Mordof> ownerx, you're my new hero!
[05:55] <ownerx> lol
[05:55] <ulrik> Eleaf: then try (something I read about, never tried).. start it plugged-in and close the lid soon after
[05:55] <ulrik> Eleaf: that could enable just the external monitor
[05:55] <ulrik> Eleaf: but it could also just not work
[05:55] <Mordof> ownerx, how do i check to see if my drivers are the right ones i wanted installed?
[05:55] <Eleaf> ulrik, hmm...  that enables sleep, which makes the computer unusable
[05:56] <Eleaf> lol
[05:56] <Eleaf> aw
[05:56] <ulrik> Eleaf: sure?   Does anyone know how I can open a .bin file in Linux?  Stupid thing is a stuffit archive
[05:56] <Eleaf> ulrik, I don't think it detects the external monitor
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> ulrik: Starting from where?  Long trip or no?
[05:56] <ulrik> k. It's just some solution I read about
[05:56] <ownerx> try glxinfo mordof
[05:56] <ulrik> tonyyarusso: from Skne, southern tip of sweden. So it's about 4 hours on a slow boat
[05:57] <tonyyarusso> ulrik: Ah, 'k.
[05:57] <ulrik> tonyyarusso: I'd say 200-400 ksm
[05:57] <ulrik> *kms
[05:57] <Eleaf> mmmmmmmmm
[05:57] <spazzz> I'm starting to think i'm on an ignore list *heh*
[05:57] <anto9us> LaptopZZ, "Applications | System Tools | Configuration Editor, Apps | Nautilus | Icon View" has a few settings to tweak
[05:57] <Mordof> ownerx, lol, glxinfo fails HORRIBLY, cant find anything
[05:57] <ulrik> tonyyarusso: it's for buying cheap beer & booze XD
[05:57] <nicholasw> so am i, spazzz
[05:58] <ownerx> mordof it should work if you are in X......
[05:58] <Mordof> ownerx, nope, i am in X but it fails miserably, i must still have errors with somthing
[05:58] <spazzz> nicholasw: JOY someone can see me *heh*
[05:58] <ownerx> see if glxgears -printfps
[05:58] <ownerx> works
[05:58] <Mordof> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:58] <Mordof> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[05:59] <ownerx> yes
[05:59] <ownerx> no 3d
[05:59] <Mordof> :|
[05:59] <Mordof> but i want 3d
[05:59] <intelikey> i would like someont that knows a little about apt to look at "http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8688 "   and tell me why apt always seems to do that on a clean install ?
[05:59] <intelikey> someone   even
[05:59] <ownerx> which is strange because glxgears works in the vesa drivers
[05:59] <nicholasw> Lets just CTCP them all until they yell at us.
[05:59] <Mordof> ownerx, i think i should just format anyway...
[05:59] <LaptopZZ> anto9us: I'll look into that thanks
[05:59] <ownerx> mordof, its up to you, but i think its extreme
[06:00] <spazzz> nicholasw: I've been trying to fix a bunch of problums tonight and either no one knows how to help me or they just are ignoring me.  Drives me nuts *heh*
[06:00] <Mordof> ownerx, i want my stuff to work...
[06:00] <amphi> heh, the gentoo guy has quit ms: http://news.com.com/Gentoo+Linux+founder+quits+Microsoft/2100-7344_3-6039101.html
[06:00] <Eleaf> lol
[06:00] <Mordof> ownerx, none of the screensavers will work anymore
[06:00] <Mordof> im suprised X is running
[06:00] <wastrel> hi
[06:00] <ownerx> yes
[06:00] <ownerx> something is wrong in xorg.conf
[06:00] <vwguy337> ulrik: quick question...you mentioned redhat on the new macbook...is that actually redhat or fedora?
[06:00] <nicholasw> spazzz: exactly, I'm just trying to get  WPA to work. I've had really good luck with ubuntu until rightn now
[06:01] <Mordof> ownerx, yeah.. but i dont know what to do to fix it
[06:01] <ownerx> mordof can you post your xorf.conf to pastebin
[06:01] <intelikey> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8688
[06:01] <ulrik> vwguy337: I have no Idea... it should go into both.. and then into every distro around
[06:01] <Mordof> ownerx, where is it?
[06:01] <ownerx> xorg.conf
[06:01] <ownerx> !pastebin
[06:01] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar :)
[06:01] <ownerx> its /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:01] <Mordof> ownerx, not pastebin, my xorg.conf
[06:01] <Mordof> k
[06:01] <ulrik> vwguy337: I have no Idea... it should go into both.. and then into every distro around
[06:01] <spazzz> nicholasw: WPA?
[06:01] <ulrik> [sorry]
[06:02] <nicholasw> Yeah, it's for securing wireless networks
[06:02] <vwguy337> ulrik: k...thanks...i'm still seeing PPC only on the fedora site...  =[
[06:02] <amphi> nicholasw: you need wpa_supplicant for a start, I believe
[06:02] <Psi-Jack> using find . -group mysql... How would I get it to chgrp all matched files to a different GID?
[06:02] <nicholasw> Yeah i got that far, amphi, i read the wiki but it's not helping
[06:02] <Mordof> ownerx, http://pastebin.com/555485
[06:02] <ulrik> vwguy337: absolutely, it will take quite long time... my guess is a year... I mean there aren't many of these machines to work on yet
[06:02] <intelikey> see my nice pretty error  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8689  ????
[06:03] <wastrel> nicholasw:  is that that cisco thing?
[06:03] <vwguy337> ulrik: tja...verdammt...lol
[06:03] <nicholasw> uhhh, i don't know
[06:03] <elkbuntu> amphi re: gentoo dude, somehow i doubt he emerged clean ;)
[06:03] <nicholasw> It's like WEP except more secure, i've heard
[06:03] <nicholasw> but i Don't have a choice whether to use it not, i'm forced to
[06:03] <ownerx> mordof uncomment 2 lines
[06:03] <ownerx> #Load "dri"
[06:04] <ownerx> #Load GLcore
[06:04] <ownerx> and save
[06:04] <Mordof> ownerx, they arent commented...
[06:04] <Tuxiscool> Yay! Fresh install of dapper seems to boot properly.
[06:04] <mebaran151> my nforce card won't dhcp
[06:04] <ownerx> oops
[06:04] <ownerx> i mean comment them
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: I saw it, but have no idea what it means!
[06:04] <mebaran151> I don't think it is routing the packets properly
[06:04] <Mordof> ok
[06:05] <mebaran151> or assigning eth0 correctly
[06:05] <Mordof> ownerx, now restart x?
[06:05] <ownerx> yes
[06:05] <slavik-lt> anyone having trouble downloading wine from the wine repo?
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> Is there a way to detach a GUI program (ie Gaim) so that it can stay running while I log out of Gnome and switch into another window manager?
[06:06] <slavik-lt> I get a "remote end closed connection" error
[06:06] <LaptopZZ> anto9us: I Found it
[06:06] <LaptopZZ> anto9us: nautilus --> pref change 'default icon zoom'
[06:06] <slavik-lt> tonyyarusso: no
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> slavik-lt: Nuts.
[06:06] <intelikey> well tonyyarusso i thank you for looking and responding..... that is the first respondance ive gotten for the last fourteen questions i've asked in here.
[06:06] <frogzoo> tonyyarusso: mebbe run irssi on a vty ?
[06:06] <intelikey> not counding repetes
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Must be some toughies I guess.
[06:06] <intelikey> counting
[06:07] <SeyToN> dammit!!!
[06:07] <intelikey> yeah i guess.
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> frogzoo: I have irssi on a vty...
[06:07] <SeyToN> how do i check the java version i got install?
[06:08] <_jason> SeyToN: java -version
[06:08] <demetri> java -version
[06:08] <_jason> SeyToN: if you have more than one, you can set it with 'sudo update-alternatives --config java'
[06:08] <Mordof> ownerx, ok, im back
[06:08] <ownerx> yess
[06:08] <Mordof> i totally restarted my computer
[06:09] <mebaran151> the installer won't work with my forcedeth built ehternet card
[06:09] <ownerx> did you uncomment those lines
[06:09] <Mordof> no
[06:09] <amphi> tonyyarusso: run irssi in screen
[06:09] <Mordof> not yet
[06:09] <vijay> hi everybody, i am unable to login into ubuntu  the error is about .ICEauthority
[06:09] <_jason> ubotu: tell vijay about xhangs
[06:09] <Mordof> ownerx, should i?
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> amphi: I am running irssi in screen.  I was wondering about GUI apps.
[06:09] <ownerx> yes
[06:10] <spazzz> Ok let me try this then
[06:10] <ownerx> #Load "dri"
[06:10] <ownerx> #Load GLcore
[06:10] <spazzz> Does anyone know how to convert .ico files to .png files?
[06:10] <ownerx> oops
[06:10] <ownerx> wait mordof
[06:10] <ownerx> leave them commented
[06:10] <amphi> tonyyarusso: oh, sorry - not really, unless you tried xmove, ran a second X server while you restarted the first perhaps
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> spazzz,  thers some 'icon tools' package.. or use gimp. or 'imagemagic'
[06:10] <vwguy337> ownerx: too late
[06:10] <wastrel> Eleaf:  you still there?
[06:10] <amphi> tonyyarusso: OTOH, merely switch wms shouldn't kill running X progs
[06:10] <frogzoo> spazzz: gimp I'm guessing
[06:11] <Mordof> pfft, im still getting glitches
[06:11] <amphi> spazzz: perhaps imagemagick (convert)
[06:11] <Mordof> i think im just going to format... honestly, i want everything to work
[06:11] <vwguy337> Mordof: that's a bit extreme, methinks...
[06:11] <Mordof> im not going to just let it go that i spent $210 on a video card, and now even my screensavers dont work
[06:11] <ownerx> mordof you should leave the lines Load GLcore and Load "dri" commented
[06:11] <spazzz> alright thanks
[06:11] <vijay> can anyone helpme out, iam unable to login,  it is displaying an error about .ICEautority
[06:11] <Psi-Jack> Hmm.
[06:11] <Mordof> ownerx, it makes no difference
[06:11] <ownerx> ok
[06:12] <ownerx> thats what the ati guide says
[06:12] <Mordof> ownerx, everything runs the same with them commented or not
[06:12] <frogzoo> !rss-glx
[06:12] <ubotu> somebody said rss-glx was a package containing some fairly bling screensavers. Install the package, then run /usr/bin/rss-glx_install.pl
[06:12] <Psi-Jack> Well, that's annoying as heck. Why doesn't the mysql-server ask for what to set the root password to for it?
[06:12] <amphi> spazzz: if you have many files to convert, imagemagick is your friend; you can do 'em all in one command line
[06:12] <Mordof> ownerx, im running an nvidia card....
[06:12] <bimberi> vijay: did you get a /msg from ubotu?
[06:12] <ownerx> i mean nvidia guide
[06:12] <ownerx> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074&highlight=latest+nvidia+drivers
[06:12] <Eleaf> wastrel, yea
[06:12] <Eleaf> wastrel, trying to get this to work... ; /
[06:12] <vijay> bimberi:no
[06:12] <bimberi> vijay: ok, it was this ...
[06:12] <bimberi> !xhangs
[06:12] <ubotu> If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority
[06:13] <wastrel> Eleaf:  do you have m3mirror?   http://penguinppc.org/historical/benh/
[06:13] <Christopher> hello channel
[06:13] <Eleaf> wastrel, no..
[06:13] <vwguy337> hi christopher
[06:13] <Mordof> vwguy337, why is re-formating a bit extreme? if i cant get my video to work.. whats the alternative?
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> Okay, this has happened enough time that it can't just be a fluke.  Description to follow:
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> *times
[06:14] <vijay> bimberi: means, i didn't get you? and how to solve it??
[06:14] <vwguy337> Mordof: how are you chatting with us now?  CLI?
[06:14] <amphi> Mordof: it's character-building to spend a few months in console ;)
[06:14] <Eleaf> I'm not sure what I'm looking for wastrel
[06:14] <Mordof> vwguy337, no, im in X, but i have little functionality
[06:14] <vijay> ubotu: ok
[06:14] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, vijay
[06:14] <wastrel> Eleaf:  download m3mirror from that page
[06:14] <Mordof> amphi, no, i just spent $210 on a video card so i could use it, not to use console...
[06:14] <bimberi> vijay: (the post from ubotu above) "If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority"
[06:14] <amphi> Mordof: it was a joke
[06:14] <Razor-X> Mordof: *glare* I use the console in X.
[06:14] <Mordof> amphi, sorry.. im rather frustrated right now
[06:14] <Christopher> wguy by any chance are you familiar with ndiswrapper and the wifi stuff
[06:15] <Razor-X> Is there some reason why Ubuntu can't *detect* my nVidia card?
[06:15] <Eleaf> will that work on a powerbook wastrel ?
[06:15] <vwguy337> Mordof: your problem is video only...so why blow away the rest of the working system??
[06:15] <vijay> bimberi: ok thanks
[06:15] <vwguy337> Mordof: my 2 cents
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> I log into Gnome normally on start.  If System>New Login I can start that, but on Ctrl-Alt-F7 the screen goes black, console switching breaks, and the only fix is to hit the power button and do a force kill.   I'm sure lspci will show it
[06:15] <Razor-X> Because, after leafing through my nVidia installer logs, and trying to insmod the module that comes with nvidia-glx-legacy, it says ``hardware not found''.
[06:15] <Mordof> vwguy337, if i cant watch videos, do anything 3d, or even 2d gfx.. or even use screensavers... thats half the working system to me
[06:15] <Razor-X> On the other hand, an ``lspci -v'' shows it.
[06:16] <wastrel> Eleaf:  i have no idea...
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> Should I try reconfiguring gdm?  xorg?  Something else?
[06:16] <amphi> tonyyarusso: what video card?
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> amphi: ATI X300
[06:16] <Razor-X> Which is confusing the hell out of me, because the same problem is what the nVidia installer is complaining about -- it can't insmod the newly compiled module.
[06:16] <Mordof> vwguy337, X glitches and goes fuzzy when i log in
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> amphi: fglrx from Seveas repo
[06:17] <vwguy337> Mordof: well...i'm not sure then...unfortunately, I'm not as well versed as many of the others here...sorry
[06:17] <Christopher> wguy, i have been on the ubuntu wiki reading about setting up my wireless net connection and i believe my ndiswrapper is installed thru synaptic along with the required utilities
[06:17] <amphi> tonyyarusso: proprietary driver... if you don't need 3d accel, you'd be better off with the xorg driver
[06:17] <Christopher> but i cant access them
[06:17] <ownerx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[06:17] <Mordof> im also sure you guys are tired of listening to me complaining about this, lol
[06:17] <ownerx> fglrx guide
[06:18] <Razor-X> Mordof: You'll get kicked if you complain *too* much, meh.
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Think that might be the issue?
[06:18] <Razor-X> Mordof: What have you tried insofar?
[06:18] <vwguy337> Christopher: is your wireless card recognized?  i tried to use the ndiswrapper, but it doesn't seem to work with my Linksys card...yet
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> amphi: And what's the best way to go back?  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[06:18] <Christopher> also my chipset is compatible with ndiswrapper
[06:18] <amphi> tonyyarusso: it might be worth giving the xorg radeon driver a go; dunno how deep fglrx has sunk its claws into your system ;)
[06:18] <ownerx> which device is it christopher
[06:18] <Christopher> ahh
[06:19] <Christopher> same thing
[06:19] <vwguy337> Christopher: which specific linksys card do you have?
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> amphi: That sounds worrisome..
[06:19] <amphi> tonyyarusso: you might want to back up your current xorg.conf file, but yeah
[06:19] <ownerx> i managed to get my linksys wusb working with the new opensource drivers
[06:19] <Christopher> linksys wrt54g speedbooster..
[06:19] <ownerx> not ndiswrapper
[06:19] <ownerx> chris yours might work
[06:19] <Mordof> Razor-X, ive tried reinstalling drivers 4 times, ive tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, ive tried to edit my xorg.conf manually... ummmm, ive downlaoded some other packages for it (nvidia-glx) and did a sudo apt-get install, not sure for what atm
[06:19] <amphi> tonyyarusso: did you have to install a special kernel for it?
[06:19] <mishari> hello, i need to enable xdmcp on an ubuntu diskless image as per the instructions in http://davidwinter.me.uk/articles/2005/12/08/xdmcp-for-mac but since i can't access the GUI just yet, is there any way to enable it in a config file?
[06:19] <ownerx> not sure which chipset it uses
[06:20] <ownerx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=106846
[06:20] <Razor-X> Mordof: What would a dpkg-reconfigure or xorg.conf hacking do? Meh. Shouldn't.
[06:20] <vwguy337> ownerx: what'd you do to get it working?  i can't get the damn acx111 drivers to install right...  :-(
[06:20] <amphi> tonyyarusso: I'm lucky, my radeon is old enough that the xorg driver supports 3d accel
[06:20] <Razor-X> Mordof: Have you tried installing the official files?
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> amphi: No, modules restricted-modules though I think.
[06:20] <Mordof> Razor-X, yes, thats what i mean by the drivers
[06:20] <Razor-X> Errr, using the official installer, I mean.
[06:20] <ownerx> vwguy337, this ones compiled from source
[06:20] <Mordof> Razor-X, the official installer wont work
[06:20] <Razor-X> Mordof: What's the error?
[06:20] <Christopher> i had it recognized on gnome after installing wifi on there... but it didnt work but it was shown in the menu,, tried to activate but it didnt work
[06:20] <Mordof> Razor-X, its installed on the old kernel, needs to be recompiled
[06:20] <vwguy337> ownerx: crap...lol
[06:21] <ownerx> vwguy its pretty easy
[06:21] <amphi> tonyyarusso: you could try backing up xorg.conf, doing drxx and choosing radeon, and see how you go
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> amphi: I seem to have fglrx-kernel-2.6.12-10-686 installed actually.
[06:21] <ownerx> look at the link i posted
[06:21] <Mordof> Razor-X, so i got the correct gcc version, and the kernel header files for this kernel, and the installer worked perfectly
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> amphi: 'k.
[06:21] <amphi> tonyyarusso: that may be for the modules
[06:21] <Razor-X> Mordof: Then what?
[06:21] <vwguy337> ownerx: going there now...brb
[06:21] <Razor-X> Mordof: By the way, did you have to pass anything special to the installer to get it to build?
[06:21] <Mordof> Razor-X, then X wont start, and i have to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to even get into X
[06:21] <Mordof> Razor-X, no
[06:21] <ownerx> those drivers are for wireless cards using the rt2400, rt2500, rt2570 chipsets
[06:22] <Razor-X> Mordof: After that, what?
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Yeah, looks like it.
[06:22] <amphi> tonyyarusso: you might want to ask seveas though; I know nothing about fglrx except that it seems to give people much grief (like nvidia *cough* Mordof *cough* ;)
[06:22] <Mordof> Razor-X, X starts, with many login glitches, and i have no video support... no screensavers working, nothing 3d at all or anything
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: ping
[06:22] <wastrel> i'm using fglrx
[06:22] <Razor-X> Mordof: Hmmm...., what card are you using?
[06:23] <amphi> wastrel: no problems with console switching?
[06:23] <Mordof> Razor-X, just bough t a new 6800xt
[06:23] <wastrel> amphi:  console switching eh.. sec
[06:23] <wastrel> don't seem to have
[06:23] <bimberi> mishari: (guessing to some extent) edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf, find [xdmcp]  and change 'Enable=false' to 'Enable=true' - then restart gdm
[06:24] <amphi> wastrel: what card?
[06:24] <Mordof> Razor-X, last install i did, it worked perfect when i installed the driver before i updated the kernel.... the updated kernel didnt complain
[06:24] <Mordof> and everything worked perfect
[06:24] <wastrel> amphi:  mobility radeion 9600
[06:24] <Mordof> but i got told not to do it that way
[06:24] <wastrel> radeon
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: Mine was specifically if I tried to start two X sessions with System>New Login, and then get back to the first display.
[06:24] <sherwin> hello
[06:24] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  heh ok i'll try that
[06:25] <Razor-X> Mordof: Uhhhh... not sure, sorry :\.
[06:25] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  er, i don't have a System>New Login ....  :]   pardon my ignorance
[06:26] <Mordof> reinstalling ubuntu... ttyl everyone
[06:26] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: Applications > System > New Login, actually.
[06:26] <amphi> wastrel: you can get the same effect I think by switching to a VT and doing startx -- :1
[06:26] <ownerx> tonyyarusso thats a known issue with ati drivers
[06:26] <ownerx> fglrx
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> ownerx: Ya?  Good to know.
[06:27] <ownerx> they even said in their readme file
[06:27] <ownerx> locks up computer
[06:27] <amphi> ownerx: pfft
[06:27] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  mmm yes that is indeed not working
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> ownerx: Heh, should go find that readme it sounds like.
[06:27] <wastrel> very ugly :]
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: But yet you have not had to reboot yet.
[06:27] <amphi> tonyyarusso: go with the xorg driver IMHO, if youcan live without 3d accel
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> amphi: I can.  Until it's fixed anyway.
[06:28] <ownerx> tony http://rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33844819
[06:28] <hunterp> i used an actual debian server in my sources.list now i've upgraded to 5.10 and some of my packages are newer than they should be and i can't install anything, any smart ideas on how to fix this
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> amphi: And the drxx is the way to switch it, right?
[06:28] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  no i did ctrl-alt-f1, dropped to console & then ctrl-alt-f7, brought me back to this session
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> Any way to copy an entire file to the clipboard in terminal?
[06:28] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  figured i'd try that before killing X
[06:28] <vwguy337> ownerx: that particular thread didn't help (i'm pcmcia, rather than usb) but i'm now looking through the forums...thanks for the pointer!
[06:28] <ownerx> np
[06:29] <amphi> tonyyarusso: yeah, that'll change the driver to radeon - dunno how much other fglrx crap will be in xorg.conf, or what effect it'll have...
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: Heh.  I could go from F8 to F1, but as soon as I touch F7 again it's all over.
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> amphi: Okay.
[06:29] <ownerx> 'radeon' works too
[06:29] <mebaran151> tony__, f7 is x's special console
[06:29] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  what about ctrl-alt-backspace to kill X?
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: I'm not sure.  I think that might cause problems sometimes.
[06:30] <amphi> mebaran151: well, X uses the first unused VT, so which one depends on /etc/inittab
[06:30] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: If you mean when it's locked up, it does nothing.
[06:30] <mebaran151> oh
[06:30] <amphi> mebaran151: here, X is on VT23 ;)
[06:30] <mebaran151> I did not know that
[06:30] <mebaran151> haha
[06:30] <mebaran151> amphi, how can use that many virtual consoles?
[06:30] <wastrel> tonyyarusso:  i was lucky i guess, didn't lock up just scrambled the display...
[06:30] <amphi> mebaran151: I spend most of my time in consoles
[06:31] <mebaran151> amphi, I do too
[06:31] <tonyyarusso> wastrel: Okay.
[06:31] <mebaran151> but even in a window manager
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[06:31] <mebaran151> I never had more than 12 xterms open
[06:31] <mebaran151> and that always confused me
[06:31] <amphi> mebaran151: I'm not using them all ATM ;)
[06:31] <Fub> How do I get hotplug to run before fstab?
[06:31] <mebaran151> haha
[06:31] <mebaran151> just run it twice
[06:32] <mebaran151> add mount -a to rc.local
[06:32] <Fub> ok
[06:32] <Fub> thanks
[06:32] <mebaran151> and it will reprocess the fstab
[06:32] <Fub> actually no wait
[06:32] <mebaran151> and remount whatever couldn't be mounted first