[06:35] <tjaalton> duflu: hi, don't mark oem project bugs as dupe of distro bugs, those are needed for process tracking ;)
[06:35] <didrocks> good morning
[06:36] <duflu> tjaalton, OK no problem. I had a hunch that was so. Just grouped the 3 bugs that shared the same upstream link
[06:36] <duflu> Morning didrocks and tjaalton
[06:39] <tjaalton> duflu: yeah, i didn't bother searching for the the original bug.. thanks
[06:39] <didrocks> hey duflu
[06:39] <tjaalton> and good evening to you :)
[06:40] <duflu> tjaalton, you don't have to. LP tells you the list of bugs when you add an upstream link
[06:40] <tjaalton> oh indeed
[06:52] <duflu> tjaalton, actually only mid-afternoon. We're not really that distant ;)
[06:53] <tjaalton> hmm where's my foxclocks when I need it ;)
[06:55] <tjaalton> huh, not available for tbird anymore
[07:00] <jamesh> if you've got gnome-clocks installed, you can add extra clocks to the gnome-shell notification tray
[07:03] <duflu> biab
[07:07] <tjaalton> jamesh: okay, installed and enabled some.. but how to get them show up?
[07:08] <jamesh> tjaalton: I just have a "World Clocks" section that shows underneath the calendar in the notification tray
[07:08] <jamesh> it just shows any time zones I added in gnome-clocks
[07:12] <tjaalton> jamesh: indeed, after restarting the shell
[07:17] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:27] <duflu> Morning seb128
[07:27] <duflu> It's been a while since I said that
[07:27] <seb128> hey duflu, how are you?
[07:27] <duflu> more than once
[07:27] <duflu> Going well, you seb128?
[07:28] <seb128> I'm good!
[07:28] <seb128> played tennis yesterday, slept well,  and it's sunny today
[07:28] <seb128> I'm still not done with performance reviews though :/ hopefully today
[07:28] <didrocks> good luck :)
[07:28] <seb128> thx!
[07:35] <duflu> Sounds like Seb's in the best possible mood, not counting the effect of the task itself
[07:35] <duflu> Or should be
[08:01] <Laney> 👋
[08:02] <seb128> hey willcooke Laney, how is the big island today?
[08:02] <didrocks> morning willcooke, Laney
[08:03] <willcooke> hi seb128, didrocks
[08:03] <willcooke> Grey today
[08:04] <Laney> 💨💨💨💨
[08:04] <Laney> +
[08:05] <Laney> ☁☁☁
[08:07] <Laney> didrocks: 🇫🇷?
[08:07] <Laney> aw, our font doesn't have the flags
[08:07] <Laney> talking in emoji is very limiting
[08:07] <xnox> i see french flag
[08:08] <xnox> in hexchat... i think i see all the emojis you posted....
[08:08] <Laney> I get a big F R in squares
[08:08] <duflu> o/ Laney
[08:08] <duflu> Hi willcooke
[08:09] <didrocks> I see something weird… A mixed F and R with ? ;)
[09:09] <Nafallo> I'm getting Laney
[09:09] <Nafallo> morning, or something.
[09:09] <Nafallo> I've had meetings
[09:32] <didrocks> Laney: I really have some doubts that we'll be able to easily merge back from debian the latest/upstream and pristine-tar branches
[09:33] <didrocks> as importing new version will definitively end up with different commit hashes
[09:33] <didrocks> so, basically, we should be able to "merge" them, I doubt we can just fast forward
[09:37] <duflu> didrocks, sounds like you're using DEP-14. It's possible (not completely sure) that my alternate approach would solve that: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Bluetooth/BluezGit
[09:38] <duflu> Although DEP-14 is so common that common knowledge is an advantage too
[09:38] <didrocks> duflu: well, I guess we settled on DEP-14, didn't we?
[09:38] <duflu> didrocks, yeah every project other than Ubuntu-BlueZ uses DEP-14
[09:39] <didrocks> sounds weird, we should be consistent
[09:40] <duflu> Well I didn't know DEP-14 existed at the time. And in the end it was still pleasing to come up with something arguably better. So not a waste of effort
[09:43] <Laney> didrocks: ok, is merging a problem?
[09:43] <didrocks> Laney: I don't think so, it's just that we will never have the same branches than debian for those
[09:44] <didrocks> and as the goal was to increase collaboration with debian, it means the same repo can't be used for both ubuntu and debian contributions
[09:44] <didrocks> or if debian is happy to have those merge commits, I think it's fine
[09:45] <Laney> don't understand that bit, what is wrong with pushing merges
[09:45] <Laney> right
[09:45] <didrocks> unsure if debian will take it
[09:46] <didrocks> but if you think that's ok, great :)
[09:50] <Laney> don't think it'd be a problem to have those branches non fast forwarding either (i.e. reset)
[09:51] <didrocks> good then
[09:52] <Laney> nice effect is that the best path is to get uploads in debian ;-)
[09:59] <Laney> I guess if people have/get access to the repos on salsa they can push upstream/* and pristine-tar there directly too, that might save some effort
[10:03] <didrocks> agreed
[10:10] <Laney> #workflownerds
[10:12] <Laney> it's always a bit scary typing my password into a black screen
[10:12] <Laney> ...what if it didn't lock and IRC is focused...
[10:12]  * Laney yolo
[10:17] <duflu> Laney has all the fun
[10:17] <duflu> Says the guy trying to do linear algebra instead of having dinner
[10:52] <duflu> Night
[11:36]  * Laney goes cross eyed
[14:06] <didrocks> Laney: any idea why gbp push doesn't push the debian-branch referenced named? (ubuntu/master for instance)
[14:07] <Laney> no sorry, I've never used that command
[14:07] <didrocks> it seems to be a convenient way to pull/push all related branches
[14:07] <didrocks> like debian-branch, upstream-branch and pristine-tar branch
[14:07] <didrocks> I see it does for the last 2
[14:07] <Laney> --help of those tools usually says what it thinks the branches are
[14:08] <didrocks> hum, doesn't seem it does for that one :/
[14:08] <didrocks> oh sorry
[14:08] <didrocks> yeah, it dose
[14:08] <didrocks>     --debian-branch=DEBIAN_BRANCH
[14:08] <didrocks>                         Branch the Debian package is being developed on,
[14:08] <didrocks>                         default is 'ubuntu/master'
[14:08] <didrocks> so, sounds like all good, but it still doesn't push it…
[14:09] <Laney> sorry, I'm not sure :(
[14:09] <didrocks> you always checkout/pull manually in each branch?
[14:09] <Laney> I've used gbp pull I think, maybe?
[14:10] <Laney> probably?
[14:10] <Laney> definitely have used gbp clone
[14:10] <didrocks> yeah, gbp pull DTRT
[14:10] <didrocks> as gbp clone
[14:10] <Laney> but never the push one
[14:10] <didrocks> only gbp push is… weird
[14:10] <didrocks> so you checkout and push the 3 branches manually?
[14:10] <Laney> no, you don't need to check a branch out to push it
[14:11] <didrocks> correct
[14:11] <didrocks> let's forget about gbp push
[14:11] <Laney> but git push remote <list of branches>, yes
[14:11] <didrocks> yep :)
[14:11] <didrocks> or just git push for "origin"
[14:11] <didrocks> ok, let's go with that
[14:11] <Laney> if it should work and doesn't, then that is maybe a bug that you could look into
[14:11] <Laney> if you wanted
[14:11] <didrocks> yeah, trying to get the doc up first, but then, why not
[14:11] <didrocks> it's python, not perl :)
[14:11] <didrocks> which made my day
[14:12] <Laney> :3
[14:52] <Laney> i'm too stupid for this
[15:15] <seb128> Laney, :-(
[15:16] <seb128> do something else for a bit, new ideas might come from stepping back?
[16:56] <Laney>         gdk_set_allowed_backends ("x11");
[16:56] <Laney> that'll probably do it :-)
[16:56] <Laney> think I need to do something to make xwayland work
[17:03] <willcooke> gnight all
[19:21] <Wimpress> greyback: Any chance you're online for a not work related question?
[21:02] <greyback> Wimpress: online now, in case you are
[21:06] <Wimpress> greyback: Thanks. I was going to ask if you would go on my mate podcast, but he's changed plans now.
[21:06] <Wimpress> *mates
[21:11] <greyback> Wimpress: no worries!
[23:13] <DIRT> anyone use the new gnome desktop on a 2 in 1?


[04:07] <yano> http://www.amazon.com/cant-somebody-just-around-here/dp/0981607969/
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[11:44] <Derath-Srvr> Sup
[11:45] <Derath-Srvr> Nice email btw slidinghorn
[11:46] <Derath-Srvr> back to lurking for a while...
[11:55] <slidinghorn> Derath-Srvr: Thanks...I'd love to see this take off again.
[19:36] <yano> https://youtu.be/XE5faTZS4Gw
[19:36] <jenni> [ COLUMBUS! - YouTube ] - https://j.mp/1O9e7M4
[20:37] <yano> https://i.imgur.com/gmRbksB.jpg
[21:51] <Unit193> slidinghorn: Well hello, fancy seeing you here.
[22:18] <yano> http://graphics.latimes.com/powerball-simulator/
[22:18] <jenni> [ Here’s $100. Can you win $800 million in the Powerball lottery? - Los Angeles Times ] - https://j.mp/1PjrIOG


 It's solved with installing a later Libreoffice version
 it's now 7.3 (re @Michaël: Hi
 I need compton running or otherwise I have bad screen tearing while scrolling through a website.
 But when enabled, some menus become invisible in LibreOffice
 How do I solve this?)


[22:58] <MikeRL> Anyone else notice it's now hard as heck to grab certain windows since an update a few days back to gnome-shell?
[22:58] <MikeRL> Is this a known bug?
[23:02] <tomreyn> probably. sounds like broken windows decorations
[23:03] <tomreyn> if you want something stable, install a stable release
[23:03] <MikeRL> Does anyone have a link?
[23:05] <MikeRL> Yeah I know. As long as it gets fixed before stable, that's good enough.


[18:52] <futurama140> First, when I click Notifications in my panel and install all updates, it proceeds to open an "upgrading system" window that begins to download updates, when I get an error that says "Failed to download package files Check your internet connection." and gives these details: http://pastebin.com/hfMZ61RR
[18:53] <Raccoon1400> CodeMouse92: Maybe. Is it a good feature to have?
[18:53] <hexicpyth> futurama140
[18:53] <CodeMouse92> Raccoon1400: It's a good one to turn *off* if you're dual booting.
[18:53] <CodeMouse92> It messes with Ubuntu's ability to properly mount the Windows partition.
[18:54] <CodeMouse92> http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-3091475/turn-fast-startup-windows.html
[18:54] <hexicpyth> do you use any google application that uses "google-talkplugin"? Your could remove the repository for it to fix your issue, but would never get updates for that package
[18:55] <Bashing-om> Malinux: All I know to do, " Depends: libqt5feedback5 but it is not going to be installed " try and find out why. What results ' sudo apt install libqt5feedback5 ' ?
[18:55] <Guy1524> nacc: sorry didn't see your message.  Here you go: http://pastebin.com/mJ6JjQyB
[18:56] <Raccoon1400> CodeMouse92: That was it alright. Not really dual booting, I just have a linux install as a backup on my dad's machine for diagnostics, access to drives
[18:56] <CodeMouse92> Raccoon1400: Glad I was able to help, then!
[18:57] <CodeMouse92> It's technically considered dual-boot, but yeah
[18:57] <Malinux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17657175/
[18:57] <nat0> lol
[18:57] <Malinux> Bashing-om:
[18:57] <Raccoon1400> CodeMouse92: I guess, it probably just won't be used much. But i did use it when win10 crashed to get error log
[18:57] <Bashing-om> Malinux: look'n .
[18:57] <Raccoon1400> you find that setting makes much difference to boot times for win10?
[18:58] <ruyicruz> hello. my wireless in unbutu its not working. i've disable and now when I enable it ot shows up as enabled on the ticker but it does not show any networks. any hint?
[18:58] <CodeMouse92> Well, I discontinued my use of Windows a long time ago, haven't missed it one bit. But, back when I used it, I didn't notice much difference.
[18:58] <CodeMouse92> (That was on Windows 8)
[18:58] <Raccoon1400> CodeMouse92: it still seems pretty fast to me
[18:59] <Raccoon1400> I'll leave it off
[18:59] <ioria> ruyicruz, restart network-manager  ?
[18:59] <futurama140> hexicpyth: i use the google talk plugin with my gmail and gogole voice account so i can recieve google voice calls
[18:59] <CodeMouse92> All I know is, either way, most of the waiting after boot is the time period from when the desktop appears to when you can actually do something. Windows 8, 8.1, and probably 10 "backloaded" the bootup processes to create an illusion of a faster boot. It gets slower over time.
[19:00] <CodeMouse92> Anyway, glad that worked for you, Raccoon1400!
[19:00] <Raccoon1400> CodeMouse92: SSD makes the biggest boot difference
[19:00] <CodeMouse92> indeed. The only downside to SSD is that you cannot recover off of a failed drive.
[19:00] <hexicpyth> futurama140: OK, I just see that from your error message on pastebin, your computer's stored hash values dont match those on the google-talk-plugin PPA servers. try reinstalling it maybe?
[19:01] <futurama140> Whenever I try to uninstall this specific non-working applet in cinnamon i get this error: Problem uninstalling gmail@lauritsriple.  You may need to manually remove it.
[19:01] <futurama140> Details:  [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/harvey/.local/share/cinnamon/applets/gmail@lauritsriple'
[19:01] <futurama140> How do I manually remove a folder that doesn't exist?
[19:01] <CodeMouse92> rm -f?
[19:02] <futurama140> what does -f do?
[19:02] <CodeMouse92> Force
[19:02] <futurama140> ah. ok i'll try that. thanks
[19:03] <Bashing-om> Malinux: Yuk .. we are told it is not installable, but yet it is ! Backup and regroup : what returns ' dpkg -l qtdeclarative5-qtfeedback-plugin ' ?
[19:04] <futurama140> Why can I only navigate to the "~/.local/" folder through the terminal?
[19:04] <tgm4883> futurama140: you should be able to navigate anywhere you have permission to
[19:05] <CodeMouse92> futurama140: All files preceded with a dot are hidden from nautilus (the file browser)
[19:05] <CodeMouse92> To show hidden files in the file browser, hit Ctrl+H
[19:05] <sveinse> I see that some tools, such as python's pip tool installs itself under ~/.local/bin. Is that a common location for the users local tools? ...given that Ubuntu use ~/bin/ in its .profile file and all
[19:05] <hexicpyth> ~/.local is the same as /home/(your username)/.local. The "." on front of it means it's a hidden file, try pressing CTRL+H
[19:05] <Raccoon1400> CodeMouse92: Best to backup anyway. Recovery of a failed HDD is often pretty cost prohibitive
[19:05] <genii> futurama140: Because file browsers treat folders beginning with a dot or period as invisible
[19:05] <k1l> futurama140: press ctrl +h. that will show the hidden files and folders. (the ones with a . at the beginning)
[19:05] <tgm4883> lol, I read that totally different :)
[19:06] <CodeMouse92> Raccoon1400: Meh, maybe. Linux's testdisk is pretty sweet for recovery. It managed to get 80% of the stuff off of a thrice-zero-overwritten disk, so, yeah
[19:06] <tgm4883> This reminds me of my logic class in college
[19:06] <yvne> hey! i have a usb with ubuntu server on it. when i try to delete the partitions with "Disks" i get the following error: Error deleting partition /dev/sdb1: Command-line `parted --script "/dev/sdb" "rm 1"' exited with non-zero exit status 1: Warning: The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes.
[19:06] <CodeMouse92> (Also got a good bit of stuff off of a half-dead HDD, too, soooo, yeah.)
[19:06] <yvne> Any thoughts?
[19:07] <yvne> i want to delete all partitions and format it to ext4.
[19:07] <ioria> yvne, have you tried gparted ?
[19:07] <yvne> ioria: nope, isn't Disks sufficient?
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> how can one have ubuntu-server on a usb stick?
[19:08] <Malinux> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17657696/
[19:08] <CodeMouse92> Gparted > Disks, IME
[19:08] <CodeMouse92> A little less fiddly
[19:08] <hexicpyth> MonkeyDust: I think he meant, he wrote the ubuntu-server iso to the USB Stick
[19:08] <ioria> yvne, i only use Disks for encrypt device ... idk
[19:09] <yvne> MonkeyDust: i put ubuntu-16.04-server-amd64.iso on the usb and installed it on an old laptop. put it on like i put regular desktop version on it. now i want to use the usb stick for other purposes.
[19:09] <futurama140> Whenever I try to enable this applet in cinnamon I get an error: http://pastebin.com/u94LiUt1
[19:09] <futurama140> Does anyone know what I can do to remedy this?
[19:09] <yvne> ioria: ok, will try gparted, thanks.
[19:10] <yvne> hexicpyth: yes, that is what i meant.
[19:10] <ioria> yvne,  maybe you need also to recreate a PT , go in -> Device -> Create PT
[19:11] <Bashing-om> !info qtdeclarative5-qtfeedback-plugin trusty
[19:12] <yvne> ioria: with gparted i get the following error: The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes.
[19:13] <Bashing-om> Malinux: Well .. what now ' sudo apt install --reinstall qtdeclarative5-qtfeedback-plugin:amd64 ' ?
[19:14] <hexicpyth> ynve: Try opening a terminal, entering the command "parted /dev/sdX"(X being the drive), and entering "mklabel gpt"
[19:14] <ioria> yvne, removed all the partitions .... ?
[19:14] <yvne> ioria: gparted displays the error, but does not even list the usb, only the hdd on the computer i am on.
[19:14] <hexicpyth> (note: you may need to use sudo to use parted)
[19:14] <futurama140> Whenever I try to enable this applet in cinnamon I get an error: http://pastebin.com/u94LiUt1
[19:15] <ioria> yvne, you have to fo to the leftand select it
[19:15] <yvne> hexicpyth: gui asked me for pass when i launched it so i guess that does the same.
[19:15] <ioria> *go
[19:15] <hexicpyth> ynve: I meant use the command-line tool "parted", not the GUI gparted
[19:15] <hexicpyth> It might be a little more verbose
[19:16] <ioria> yvne,   there is a drop-down window on the left  ...
[19:16] <yvne> hexicpyth: read to fast, didnt see you wrote parted.
[19:16] <ioria> yvne,   sorry, to the rifght
[19:17] <yvne> ioria: ah! there it is! ^^ didn't see that. my bad!
[19:17] <hexicpyth> ynve: ok, its fine :) I've made that same mistake myself before
[19:17] <ioria> yvne,   yay
[19:18] <yvne> the usb stick apparently is 58.23 GiB while it is 16GB.
[19:19] <ioria> yvne,   remove the partitions, left click, rebuild the PT (Device menu)  and reformat
[19:19] <Raccoon1400> CodeMouse92: that's pretty impressive. HDD is still best for files anyway. SSD for boot/programs
[19:19] <Malinux> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17658301/
[19:20] <CodeMouse92> Raccoon1400: Indeed! If you can have both internal, that's a win
[19:21] <ioria> yvne,  oh, wait select the right device :-)
[19:21] <yvne> it can't be my usb im looking at, must be something else. 60 gib.
[19:21] <futurama140> Whenever I try to enable this applet in cinnamon I get an error: http://pastebin.com/u94LiUt1 can someone help me?
[19:21] <Guest15095> hi guys, running 16.04 and my keyboard randomly stops working, plus my mouse pointer only "appears" after a while following boot... help? thanks
[19:21] <ioria> yvne,  sudo parted -l
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> Guest15095  bluethooth?
[19:23] <Bashing-om> Malinux: :) .. and now the status ' dpkg -l libqt5feedback5 ' ?
[19:23] <Guest15095> MonkeyDust, nope, inner keyboard and trackpad, it's a laptop!
[19:23] <CodeMouse92> Guest15095: What model of laptop?
[19:24] <Guest15095> CodeMouse92, it's an ASUS
[19:24] <Guest15095> y?
[19:25] <yvne> ioria: what new partition table type should i choose? gpared defaults msdos. other alternatives: aix, amiga, bsd, etc
[19:25] <CodeMouse92> Guest15095: It's just helpful for anyone who answers to know. Each laptop has its own drivers and its own known issues. (i.e. Toshiba keyboard backlights don't work on the Linux kernal)
[19:25] <yvne> (i'm clueless)
[19:25] <ioria> yvne, msdos ... but be sure of the device
[19:25] <OerHeks> futurama140, so this .local/share/cinnamon/applets/gmailnotifier@ applet is not working, disable it perhaps?
[19:25] <hexicpyth> Guest15095, some ultra portable/detachable ASUS laptops use bluetooth keyboards. I remember looking at one on amazon
[19:26] <ioria> yvne, better if you paste sudo parted -l
[19:26] <davelaurence0290> Hey all, linux/ubuntu newbie here. I'm on Ubuntu 16 and trying to run jgrasp (Java IDE). When I try to compile it gives me an error message, but mentions that installing the lsb-core module would likely fix this. Any ideas on how to handle this on Ubuntu 16?
[19:26] <Malinux> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17658674/
[19:26] <yvne> ioria : it's the usb stick, checked. ok, will go with msdos. if i disconnect i will have formated my laptop hdd instead. ^^
[19:27] <Guest15095> hexicpyth, it's just a regular laptop, with 14.04 everything was working fine, since the upgrade though instead...
[19:27] <ioria> !paste | yvne
[19:27] <merpnderp> Where would I see what kind of support Ubuntu has has for 2013 MBP trackpads?
[19:28] <yvne> ioria: it worked. thanks. unallocated and reporting right amount of storage. making ext4 partition now. thanks for the help! appreciate it!
[19:29] <ioria> yvne,  ok, :þ
[19:30] <hexicpyth> Guest15095: I dont know much about laptops, so I probably can't help too much, but I do know that 14.04 will still get support for another few years. It's completely possible to go back if you don't mind the old kernel
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> merpnderp  plenty hits on my search engine, here's the first... http://askubuntu.com/questions/126526/how-can-i-personalize-my-macbook-pro-touchpad
[19:31] <davelaurence0290> Hey all, linux/ubuntu newbie here. I'm on Ubuntu 16 and trying to run jgrasp (Java IDE). When I try to compile it gives me an error message, but mentions that installing the lsb-core module would likely fix this. How does one install the lsb core for ubuntu 16? I remember doing it for 14, but it seemed more streamlined than what I've been able to find online
[19:32] <Guest15095> hexicpyth, but I do, plus I noticed it is weird, that's what happens: if I want to rename some files on an external hd and I click on one, press F2 then start typing it wouldn't let me, but it does let me copy and paste whatever into it with the mouse... what the hell? I thought it was a permission problem and chown'ed it and chmod'ed it, didn't change anything, really: HELP please :)
[19:32] <ioria> !info jgrasp
[19:33] <Masteryoda> !info github
[19:33] <merpnderp> MonkeyDust: a 5,2 is a long ways from an 11,2. But you did give me an idea to search for this which answers all my questions: http://askubuntu.com/search?q=macbook+%2211%2C2%22
[19:33] <davelaurence0290> ioria, what exactly does that mean?
[19:34] <merpnderp> No Ubuntu on an 11,2 :(
[19:34] <cymen_> My laptop constantly fails to come back from suspend. Any ideas how to debug?
[19:34] <ioria> davelaurence0290, that it's not an ubuntu package ...
[19:34] <merpnderp> If I liked the trackpads on System76 machines more I'd just order one of those.
[19:35] <Bashing-om> Masteryoda: Well ! try now ' sudo apt install --reinstall libqt5feedback5:amd64 ' .
[19:35] <CodeMouse92> ioria: Well, he's asking specifically about the error message asking about lsb-core. I don't think he's assuming that jgrasp is a package
[19:35] <ioria> oh
[19:35] <davelaurence0290> ioria, does that mean it's simply not supported? I have jgrasp on my computer and can run it...
 Hey all, linux/ubuntu newbie here. I'm on Ubuntu 16 and trying to run jgrasp (Java IDE). When I try to compile it gives me an error message, but mentions that installing the lsb-core module would likely fix this. How does one install the lsb core for ubuntu 16? I remember doing it for 14, but it seemed more streamlined than what I've been able to find online
[19:35] <ioria> davelaurence0290,  how did you install it  ?
[19:36] <ioria> !info lsb-core
[19:36] <ioria> !info lsb-core trusty
[19:36] <davelaurence0290> ioria, it remained from a previous installation when I upgraded to ubuntu 16
[19:36] <Michael19930> Help I am trying to install Ubuntu but it wants me to disable secureboot and set a password for it? If i set a password for secureboot being disabled will i be able to remove the password and enable secureboot easily?
[19:36] <ZeekHuge> !help
[19:36] <ZeekHuge> !log
[19:37] <ioria> davelaurence0290,   lsb-core  seems available only for trusty not for xenual (16.04)
[19:37] <Guest15095> hexicpyth, but I do, plus I noticed it is weird, that's what happens: if I want to rename some files on an external hd and I click on one, press F2 then start typing it wouldn't let me, but it does let me copy and paste whatever into it with the mouse... what the hell? I thought it was a permission problem and chown'ed it and chmod'ed it, didn't change anything, really: HELP please :)
[19:37] <hexicpyth> Guest15095: I literally don't know a thing about how laptop keyboards work on ubuntu, nor how they integrate with anything, so I can't really help
[19:37] <ZeekHuge> !command
[19:37] <davelaurence0290> ioria, ok, is trusty quite a few versions back?
[19:38] <ioria> davelaurence0290,   it's the previous LTS, yes
[19:38] <davelaurence0290> ioria, alright I see, thanks!
[19:38] <Guest15095> hexicpyth, ok, anybody else? :)
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> ZeekHuge  use /msg ubottu if you want to explore !factoids
[19:38] <ioria> davelaurence0290,   maybe there is a PPa for xenial ...
[19:38] <Malinux> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17659255/
[19:38] <Bashing-om> Malinux: look'n .
[19:39] <CodeMouse92> Regarding lsb-core (CC davelaurence0290), how horrible would it be to follow the advice on http://askubuntu.com/questions/760416/how-to-install-lsb-core-package-on-ubuntu-16-04
[19:40] <Bashing-om> Malinux: Looks good ! .. now do the apps you attempted to install 3 days back work ?
[19:40] <ubuntu> WTD
[19:40] <ubuntu> WTF IS THIS SHIT
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> ubottu  caps
[19:41] <Guest13145> lol
[19:41] <ioria> davelaurence0290,   if you want a light java IDE you can use Geany or this https://sourceforge.net/projects/eje/
[19:41] <OerHeks> please not again, Guest13145
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> ubottu  this is ubuntu support
[19:41] <Pici> Guest13145: please mind your language. This is the official Ubuntu support channel.
[19:41] <ZeekHuge> MonkeyDust: thanks , just wanted to know the commands it supports.
[19:41] <Pici> MonkeyDust: ubottu knows that
[19:43] <ubuntu__> What is this aplication. Js it support channel?
[19:43] <Pici> ubuntu__: This is IRC, you're in the Ubuntu support channel now.
[19:43] <ubuntu__> What is this aplication. Js it support channel?
[19:43] <Pici> !irc | ubuntu__
[19:44] <Guest15095> why is my keyboard randomly not working?!?!?! heeeelp!
[19:45] <MonkeyDust> Guest15095  maybe you need to clean it
[19:45] <YankDownUnder> Guest15095, Is it a wireless keyboard/mouse with a dongle?
[19:46] <CodeMouse92> Guest15095: so, from earlier you have an ASUS (Model?) laptop that worked fine on Ubuntu 14.04, but isn't working well on Ubuntu 16.04
[19:46] <CodeMouse92> Correct?
[19:46] <Malinux> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17659677/
[19:46] <Guest15095> YankDownUnder, nope :(((
[19:46] <Guest15095> CodeMouse92, yes yes|!||
[19:46] <CodeMouse92> Guest15095: Right. YOu need to include all that info when you ask. It makes a huge difference. What is the *exact* model of laptop?
[19:46] <CodeMouse92> (Turn it over and read the model number off the bottom)
[19:46] <Guest15095> CodeMouse92, x550
[19:47] <CodeMouse92> Guest15095: Hmm, that sounds familiar. I think I had one once....
[19:47] <CodeMouse92> Guest15095: When you say 'not working', the keyboard is intermittently becoming unresponsive? Is this just for typing, shortcuts, function keys...?
[19:48] <Guest15095> CodeMouse92, it is precisely described in the following...
[19:48] <Guest15095> hexicpyth, but I do, plus I noticed it is weird, that's what happens: if I want to rename some files on an external hd and I click on one, press F2 then start typing it wouldn't let me, but it does let me copy and paste whatever into it with the mouse... what the hell? I thought it was a permission problem and chown'ed it and chmod'ed it, didn't change anything, really: HELP please :)
[19:48] <Guest15095> (sorry hexicpyth)
[19:48] <CodeMouse92> Guest15095: This is not a problem with your keyboard (hardware issue), but a software issue. Just to help you narrow it down.
[19:49] <CodeMouse92> If it were a hardware issue, you'd notice the keyboard problems happening globally, not only in a specific software-based instance (as described)
[19:49] <Guest15095> CodeMouse92, exactly what I think, could you help me narrowing it down? :)
[19:49] <Tameiki___> Hello, I have an error while installing my laptop with Ubuntu16.04. After manual partitioning, I have this error (translated) "attempting to mount an ext4 file system encrypted volume (sda2_dmcrypt) on / failed". Anyone can help me plz ?
[19:49] <Guest15095> CodeMouse92, I know, that's why I'm here, something about Ibus I guess, but I have no idea...
[19:49] <CodeMouse92> Guest15095: What program are you using to rename files on the external hd? Nautilus (the default Ubuntu file browser)
[19:49] <Guest15095> CodeMouse92, yep
[19:49] <Numline1> Hello guys. Our home server pooped itself today. This strange error message started appearing after 5PM yesterday and it became unresponsive today around lunch. Any thoughts? Thanks. https://gist.github.com/Numline1/d51a9b698b9189e7b05a2bfcdb729cfd
[19:50] <Numline1> Rebooting helped, I'm just puzzled a bit
[19:50] <Numline1> seems like smbd crashed it
[19:50] <CodeMouse92> Guest15095: Okay, so, what happens if you right-click and click rename? Same problem?
[19:51] <Guest15095> CodeMouse92, it highlight its name as if it is letting me renaming it but then when I type in, its name won't change, still I can copy and paste words inside with the mouse...
[19:51] <Guest15095> as said above...
[19:51] <Bashing-om> Malinux: Ouch ! We have a serious conflict somewhere. We just cleared " Depends: libqt5feedback5 but it is not going to be installed " and now it is back .
[19:51] <Tameiki___> Here a tail -f /var/log/syslog during the installation: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17641408/
[19:51] <Guest15095> CodeMouse92, it looks like I don't have permissions, but, as said above, I chown'ed it and chmod'ed it, still nothing changes...
[19:52] <CodeMouse92> Guest15095: I haven't encountered this before, but here's one trick that might help narrow it down. Open up the Terminal and type "nautilus". That will launch the file browser, but since it's launched from the terminal, you can see error messages. Ignore everything that says GLib and GTK
[19:52] <CodeMouse92> And then try.
[19:52] <cymen_> i dont want the amdgpu driver on my laptop what do i have to remove so I can remove the driver?
[19:52] <Malinux> Bashing-om: yeah. Strange, Much to learn we have :)
[19:52] <cymen_> currently when I try to unload the module it says it's in use
[19:52] <CodeMouse92> Guest15095: Does it give you any error messages in the terminal when you try and type?
[19:52] <Guest15095> CodeMouse92, even if I gksu nautilus instead I can see no error outputs whatsoever nor in the cli or gui...
[19:53] <CodeMouse92> Guest15095: Okay, next step, we'll try renaming through the terminal
[19:53] <Guest15095> CodeMouse92, that works
[19:53] <YankDownUnder> Numline1, If you look at the error/bug in the beginning - it's CRC...so an error/bug during a copy/read
[19:53] <Guest15095> already tried it
[19:53] <CodeMouse92> Guest15095: With or without sudo?
[19:53] <Guest15095> regardless
[19:54] <Guest15095> I'm going nuts...
[19:54] <CodeMouse92> Guest15095: Okay, well that rules out permissions and the file system. The problem is definitely nautilus
[19:54] <Numline1> YankDownUnder cheers. I also found this, but I guess it's not related? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1572608
[19:54] <Guest15095> CodeMouse92, should I wipe it and re-install it?
[19:54] <CodeMouse92> Guest15095: You could try a different file browser. We have dozens.
[19:54] <Guest15095> CodeMouse92, yeah but I'd like to get y
[19:55] <CodeMouse92> Guest15095: Mmmmm....I don't know. You could using apt-get...just sudo apt-get install --reinstall nautilus
[19:55] <CodeMouse92> I wouldn't do anything more drastic, TBH.
[19:55] <Guest15095> CodeMouse92, I was thinking it could be an Ibus issue
[19:55] <Guest15095> CodeMouse92, because, also my trackpad pointer wouldn't show up for a while after boot
[19:56] <Bashing-om> Malinux: Wllk ,, let's look ' dpkg -l libqt5widgets5 ' .
[19:56] <Guest15095> CodeMouse92, when I then click click click on something, suddenly it comes out
[19:56] <YankDownUnder> Numline1, Has there been any changes to the /etc/smb.conf as of late - and have you considered "reverting" to an older version? Just asking...
[19:56] <CodeMouse92> Guest15095: Well, the reason I don't think so is that the problem isn't originating from the keyboard input, nor from the file system itself. The trackpad is probably unrelated.
[19:56] <Numline1> YankDownUnder no, no recent changes, this is the first time this happened actually. I'll make sure to backup that data drive, as it may be hardware issue if you're right
[19:57] <Guest15095> CodeMouse92, good :(
[19:57] <CodeMouse92> Guest15095: Depending on your system specs, the trackpad issue might just be a sideeffect of boot up time
[19:57] <YankDownUnder> Numline1, backups are always a good thing...but yeah, back up, revert, and wait/watch...
[19:57] <CodeMouse92> Guest15095: Anyway, in relation to the file renaming, see if you have the same problem with Thunar (sudo apt-get install thunar)
[19:58] <Michael19930> What does install ubuntu alongside windows do? Does it partition the drive for me or what
[19:58] <CodeMouse92> If not, then the problem is definitely nautilus, and possibly worthy of a bug report
[19:58] <k1l> Michael19930: yes.
[19:58] <Guest15095> CodeMouse92, one thing I forgot, at the beginning it works and I CAN rename files, then after a while it looses it and I can't type anything anymore within the filename box, but the keyboard still works on text editor etc
[19:59] <CodeMouse92> Guest15095: That still sounds like a Nautilus bug, tbh
[19:59] <Numline1> CodeMouse92 yeah. It's mainly NAS, so I wasn't really worried about it, but it's time :D
[19:59] <Numline1> thanks for tips
[19:59] <Guest15095> CodeMouse92, ok thanks
[19:59] <dbz2k> does someone know why I cant add this port range in ufw gui "1714-1764"
[20:00] <CodeMouse92> Numline1: ?
[20:00] <Numline1> CodeMouse92 eeeh, sorry, I ment to highlight YankDownUnder
[20:01] <abhi> anyone got person of interest latest episode
[20:01] <dbz2k> I did it in this format '1714:1764'
[20:01] <Pici> abhi: This is Ubuntu support.
[20:01] <abhi> oh my bad
[20:01] <capum321> hello! I am trying to compile mono-addins package as dependency to build a monodevelop 6.0 which doesn't exist in repositories. get this error http://dpaste.com/2PBR989 - - - the package is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mono-addins/1.0+git20130406.adcd75b-3 - - -  mono-addins_1.0+git20130406.adcd75b-3.debian.tar.gz
[20:01] <CodeMouse92> abhi: This is a support channel, not a piracy channel. Please don't steal
[20:01] <abhi> sorry sorry
[20:03] <BluesKaj> abhi, it's on tonight
[20:03] <capum321> Maintainer: Debian CLI Libraries Team - - - Where do I find support?
[20:05] <django_1> in sublime 3 where is the file
[20:06] <django_1> theres no: file, edit view
[20:06] <k1l> django_1: ask the sublime support. its not in the ubuntu repos
[20:07] <django_1> ok
[20:08] <django_1> k1l, for the file manager that comes with ubuntu, is it suppose to be there?
[20:08] <k1l> django_1: using unity? go with the mouse to the upper panel
[20:09] <django_1> k1l, yeah its not coming up
[20:10] <OerHeks> django_1, sublime3 issue, how did you install that?
[20:10] <django_1> cant remember
[20:10] <django_1> ill just reinstall i guess
[20:12] <OerHeks> menu items only appear on the top panel, if your focus is on the sublimetext window
[20:13] <django_1> OerHeks, what do you mean focus
[20:14] <k1l> if the sublime window is in the foreground
[20:15] <TurboKraken> Anyone have any luck getting a Dell color printer to work on ubuntu 16.04?
[20:15] <OerHeks> TurboKraken, is it listed in openprinting database?
[20:16] <TurboKraken> Let me check.
[20:17] <TurboKraken> OerHeks: No it isn't. There is .rpm drivers for the printer though.
[20:19] <i-make-robots> hi ubuntu.  mail mailq is growing and nothing is being delivered.  my mail.err is empty.  how do i diagnose the problem?
[20:19] <OerHeks> maybe someone did find a way, hard to say without specs
[20:19] <happycamper__> Hello, is some1 here who can help me with connecting chatty to the twitch irc server?
[20:22] <TurboKraken> OerHeks: What about converting .rpm to .deb?
[20:22] <OerHeks> !info alien
[20:23] <OerHeks> good luck with that, results may vary
[20:26] <guest341> Is any1 here
[20:28] <k1l> guest341: yes, a lot of users are here.
[20:29] <ruyicruz> hello. my wireless in unbutu its not working. i've disable and now when I enable it ot shows up as enabled on the ticker but it does not show any networks. any hint?
[20:30] <guest341> ifcfg
[20:30] <guest341> showit plz
[20:31] <azure32> sudo service network-manager restart
[20:31] <azure32> ruyicruz: type that in terminal ^
[20:33] <ruyicruz> guest341 hi. are you talking to me? command not found.
[20:33] <ruyicruz> azure32 i've allready done that, it comes back with the ticker of "enable wireless" unchecked, and when I check it still does not come up any network
[20:33] <Malinux> Bashing-om: sorry for the delay, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17662140/
[20:33] <ruyicruz> and, to be sure... I've around 10+ networks in range of my android. there are networks nearby :P
[20:34] <guest341> ifconfig
[20:34] <guest341> output
[20:34] <k1l> ruyicruz: "rfkill list | nc termbin.com 9999"
[20:34] <ruyicruz> sorry I meant "enable wifi"
[20:34] <k1l> ruyicruz: if that machine got no network at all, then just run "rfkill list" and see if there is something on "blocked yes"
[20:35] <Bashing-om> Malinux: Look'n .. here we go again .
[20:35] <i-make-robots> i have no /var/log/syslog and no /var/log/messages.  Where are warnings & such going?
[20:35] <i-make-robots> my /var/log is drwxdrwr-x root syslog.
[20:35] <ruyicruz> I've Hard blocked: yes on it k1l
[20:36] <k1l> ruyicruz: then try to use the hardware switch on that machine
[20:36] <ente_> Could someone explain me (shortly) the advantage of PlayOnLinux compared to a pure wine installation?
[20:36] <ruyicruz> k1l its a onboard wireless card...
[20:36] <ruyicruz> k1l yesterday I disable it to save battery, and today I got this issue... :(
[20:37] <k1l> ruyicruz: how did you disable it?
[20:37] <Bashing-om> !info qtdeclarative5-qtfeedback-plugin trusty
[20:37] <ruyicruz> on the top  bar, remove the ticker on "enable wifi"
[20:37] <OerHeks> ente_, POL is a collection of dedicated scripts per game
[20:38] <k1l> ruyicruz: "sudo rfkill unblock all"
[20:38] <k1l> then see again
[20:38] <Bashing-om> Malinux: ^ And here too, elevated version for qtdeclarative5-qtfeedback-plugin .
[20:39] <OerHeks> you could with wine and winetricks get the same result, with some tweaks here and there
[20:39] <capum321> hello! I am trying to compile mono-addins package as dependency to build a monodevelop 6.0 which doesn't exist in repositories. get this error http://dpaste.com/2PBR989 - - - the package is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mono-addins/1.0+git20130406.adcd75b-3 ->  mono-addins_1.0+git20130406.adcd75b-3.debian.tar.gz
[20:39] <ruyicruz> k1l done that, but still showing up as hard blocked on the wlan
[20:40] <k1l> ruyicruz: what machine is it then?
[20:40] <k1l> ruyicruz: laptop?
[20:40] <ruyicruz> yes
[20:40] <k1l> then press the hardware button.
[20:40] <k1l> or the fn+.... keys
[20:41] <ente_> OerHeks: Thx! I just found a graphic (located in a description for wine...), which I guess sums up your description nicely: http://wiki.playonlinux.com/index.php/Wine;_what_is_it%3F
[20:41] <Malinux> Bashing-om: hm, okey. What am I gonna do now? Don't think I got the last message :)
[20:42] <concerti> Does this channel support ubuntu-server?
[20:43] <k1l> yes
[20:43] <colept> Hello! I'm using OpenVPN (successful connection) but no internet once the routing table goes up - can someone tell me what's wrong with these routes? http://paste.ubuntu.com/17662592/
[20:43] <k1l> although there is #ubuntu-server too.
[20:43] <concerti> ok good to know , this should be easy - is there an equivalent to SAR preinstalled on ubuntu servers?
[20:43] <ruyicruz> k1l fn+f2 only allows me to change the soft blocked, not the hard blocked :(
[20:43] <Bashing-om> Malinux: Hang on .. maybe ny wires are crossed .. double checking at this time .
[20:44] <RomanLier> Hello, could someone help me with onboard? I can't figure out how to make it display korean characters...
[20:45] <ruyicruz> k1l i did try hit it twice and see the results, but every result only change yes/no to the soft blocked
[20:45] <k1l> ruyicruz: what line is in "lspci" for that wifi card?
[20:45] <Malinux> Bashing-om: hm,okey :)
[20:46] <jilocasin0> 'afternoon everyone
[20:47] <ruyicruz> k1l you want the number of the line or the reference/line itself? the line is: 02:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[20:48] <Bashing-om> Malinux: Nope .. you have an elevated version conflict . All we can do is find out the where, then learn what we might be able to do . what results ' sudo apt remove -s qtdeclarative5-qtfeedback-plugin ' Let's see what will break if we remove it .
[20:48] <OerHeks> acer and hardblocked.. try blacklist acer_wmi
[20:48] <jilocasin0> trying to set up an ftp server under ubuntu 16.04 Server with a couple hundred users, each should have read/write access to only their own directory.  Been struggling with vsftpd (ubuntu's default) and I can't get it to work.  Does anyone have any ideas of how to do this (or a location with docs of same) or something else I should be using?  [thanks]
[20:49] <Bashing-om> Malinux: ' apt-cache policy qtdeclarative5-qtfeedback-plugin ' .. might be helpful first ??
[20:49] <i-make-robots> my syslog is missing.  is there a daemon I have to restart to make it work?
[20:49] <Refine> anyone know how to fix this? im on mint btw https://ghostbin.com/paste/8rgsk/edit
[20:49] <k1l> !mint | Refine
[20:50] <Refine> it's a trusty problem should be the same for ubuntu
[20:50] <k1l> Refine: its not an ubuntu issue since mint changes a lot in the repo handling. talk to their support
[20:50] <Refine> ok
[20:50] <Refine> ty
[20:52] <RomanLier> Hello? I'm trying to find some help here
[20:52] <Ben64> ask a question
[20:52] <RomanLier> Oh hi again Ben64
[20:52] <RomanLier> ok, i ask again
[20:52] <Malinux> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17663090/
[20:52] <k1l> ruyicruz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1781350&page=2  try this
[20:53] <ruyicruz> checking. hold on k1l. :)
[20:53] <RomanLier> I can't figure out how to make onboard display korean characters...
[20:53] <Malinux> Bashing-om: and http://paste.ubuntu.com/17663148/
[20:53] <ruyicruz> i was on that exact topic! :p
[21:00] <ubuntu283> Hi! I am fairly fluent in ubuntu, but I'm starting out in developing. Are there any programs I should be looking into for java, c#, html, php?
[21:00] <Bashing-om> Malinux: I just do not get it .. I keep ecpecting something non-ubuntu repo .. and policy says the file is from our repo . What now ' apt-cache policy libqt5widgets5 ' . Removing qtdeclarative5-qtfeedback-plugin will rip your build environment all to pieces .
[21:00] <jilocasin0> ubuntu283: Do you mean IDE's?
[21:00] <ubuntu283> yes
[21:00] <Bashing-om> expecting*
[21:00] <pennTeller> ubuntu283, I use codeblocks
[21:01] <ubuntu283> thanks! ill look into it :)
[21:01] <jilocasin0> ubuntu283: Java: Eclipse, Netbeans, IntelliJ IDEA (Community == free, Ultimate == $$)
[21:01] <ubuntu283> wonderful! I'll definatly look into these :)
[21:02] <jilocasin0> ubuntu283: C# is some form of Mono (not that Mono.. ;)
[21:02] <bprompt> ubuntu283:    what kind of code are you planning to write?   I mean, a C# IDE may be good for C# but terrible for html
[21:02] <jilocasin0> ubuntu283: HTML / PHP: Eclipse, lots of things from VIM/EMACs on up.... ;P
[21:02] <ubuntu283> I'm looking into aplication and database development
[21:03] <jilocasin0> ubuntu283: free or commercial?
[21:03] <ubuntu283> either :)
[21:03] <bprompt> ubuntu283:    application is a broad term, like "chair", apps for what? what platform? what usage?
[21:03] <jilocasin0> ubuntu283: free then Eclipse is probably your best bet, it's unweildy at times but you can do everything in it and it's well supported.
[21:04] <ubuntu283> I'm learning server maintance as well as development for windows and android. sorry, im new to all of this
[21:04] <jilocasin0> ubuntu283: commercial then Intellij IDEA ultimate, supports practically everything.....
[21:04] <jilocasin0> ubuntu283: Android Studio (Google's default IDE for android development) is based on Intellij IDEA Community
[21:05] <tkonto> in rhel based Linux (fedora centos etc) I can script password change like:  echo "password" | passwd --stdin username
[21:05] <ubuntu283> I've got that already
[21:05] <tkonto> how can I do the same in ubuntu (--stdin does not seam to be supported in ubuntu passwd)
[21:05] <jilocasin0> ubuntu283: Then you know what intellij IDEA is like.
[21:05] <bprompt> ubuntu283:     IIRC, google has an Android SDK you can install, as far as windows, one of the best windows IDE would be Visual Studio, as far as doing "sysop" stuff, depends on the langauge, if Java, Netbeans is a popular one
[21:05] <ubuntu283> thanks for all the help! I've got to get to class (time to leaern some php!!!)
[21:05] <jilocasin0> ubuntu283: Ultimate supports lots of frameworks, databases, etc. that the community one doesn't.
[21:06] <ruyicruz> k1l still trying to solve it. hold on :)
[21:06] <bprompt> ubuntu283:     for php, Zend Studio is a really popular and supported one
[21:06] <k1l> tkonto: chpasswd should be able to handle that
[21:07] <tkonto> thank you sooo much.. I am creating a docker image, and this was a blocking point
[21:07] <anabain> I need some help troubleshooting some non-fglrx drivers for a radeon videocard in 16.04. I'm getting bad refreshing, changing windows leaves me with the first windows (totally or partially) Any ideas?
[21:07] <feneco> hi, is there a way to clean video cache on linux? I use a screenshot tool called 'screencloud' seems that it kept the screen saved from another application, every time I try to take a new screenshot it shows the full screen of another application
[21:08] <feneco> I tried to restart gnome shell (alt f2 r) and clean memory cache (sync; echo > 3 /proc/sys/vm/drop_cache)
[21:10] <Malinux> Bashing-om: apt-cache policy libqt5widgets5 http://paste.ubuntu.com/17663148/
[21:10] <vm096> feneco did you try to search if is a open process after take the first screenshot?
[21:10] <vm096> and try to kill it
[21:11] <rblst> feneco, have you tried any other screenshot tools to see if the problem is not screencloud specific?
[21:11] <bprompt> feneco:     dunno that one, and I don't use screencloud myself, but sounds more like an screencloud issue, not an OS one though
[21:11] <feneco> vm096: not yet
[21:11] <feneco> rblst: it seems that the 'screen' of the previously opened application is cached only in the screencloud
[21:11] <feneco> on gnome-screenshot it's ok
[21:12] <enoch85> Please help us test the Nextcloud VM so that we can make the best possible release once 10 is out, or sooner. https://www.techandme.se/nextcloud-vm/
[21:12] <enoch85> Sorry for OT
[21:13] <capum321> hello! I am trying to compile mono-addins package as dependency to build a monodevelop 6.0 which doesn't exist in repositories. get this error http://dpaste.com/2PBR989 - - - the package is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mono-addins/1.0+git20130406.adcd75b-3 ->  mono-addins_1.0+git20130406.adcd75b-3.debian.tar.gz
[21:13] <feneco> i will try vm096
[21:14] <Bashing-om> Malinux: Correct version is installed .. as around and around we go . Looking at the remove list .. we can see that the system "would" remove the correct version of many libraries in favor of several elevated versions. The question remains - what has installed these elevated libraries ?
[21:14] <Malinux> Bashing-om: good question. I don't know :)
[21:18] <ruyicruz> k1l after doing all that I got it worse... now I don't see any wireless information in the network manager on the top bar. \o
[21:19] <ruyicruz> obviously i change ath5k to ath9k witch is my driver.
[21:19] <k1l> hmm. did you reload the driver?
[21:22] <ruyicruz> k1l not sure. the article didn't mention nothing about reloading the drive
[21:22] <ruyicruz> but I reboot the pc and restarted network manager prior to reboot. didn't help
[21:22] <k1l> ruyicruz: what did you do?
[21:23] <feneco> there are so many processes that I have no clue which one could be the issue
[21:23] <k1l> ruyicruz: i would have done "sudo rmmod -f driver; sudo rfkill unblock all; sudo modprobe driver"
[21:23] <ruyicruz> yes I've done that
[21:23] <ruyicruz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1781350&p=10938172#post10938172
[21:23] <ruyicruz> on the post #10
[21:24] <ruyicruz> but the last one gives me an error:
[21:24] <ruyicruz> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'ath9k': Invalid argument
[21:24] <k1l> so its not that one
[21:24] <ruyicruz> I saw it on the driver=... earlier
[21:24] <k1l> "lsmod" lists all loaded drivers
[21:24] <ruyicruz> hold on
[21:26] <ruyicruz> cfg80211              499712  3 ath,ath9k_common,mac80211
[21:26] <ruyicruz> this is the closed thing I've with ath*
[21:26] <ruyicruz> closest*
[21:27] <ruyicruz> but even if I did a mobprobe with those three, I still dont get a wireless option in the network manager k1l
[21:28] <vm096> feneco, ok then let us know that
[21:30] <feneco> vm096: I'm trying to identify something related to cs:go (counter strike global offensive) process, as when I press the hotkeys to take screenshot it shows its application screen (http://termbin.com/l8ec)
[21:31] <safrabods> cd hexchat
[21:31] <safrabods> hrmmm
[21:33] <feneco> lots of bioset processes too
[21:34] <feneco> Killed steam process, mouse and keyboard stopped working
[21:34] <feneco> Lol
[21:35] <Malinux> Bashing-om: maybe I should consider a clean install?
[21:36] <vm096> try disable all virtual machines then start the game
[21:36] <vm096> VirtualBox process
[21:37] <vm096> feneco, try restart u machine then verify if there is some VirtualBox process, stop it, then play u game
[21:38] <ubkost> hi
[21:38] <ubkost> exit
[21:38] <feneco> vm096: is there any conflit that vbox could cause with the game?
[21:39] <vm096> yes with hotkeys
[21:44] <lerner> hi, I have a flac file and a cue file to separate the individual audio tracks. Question is, what program do I need...
[21:45] <ruyicruz> k1l any idea? I've also run wireless info script from github and confirm that the wireless is not enabled but I had the driver...
[21:45] <ruyicruz> https://github.com/UbuntuForums/wireless-info
[21:46] <feneco> what screenshot tool do you use in ubuntu?
[21:46] <lerner> ! screenshot
[21:48] <feneco> I've search something like lightshot, closest thing I found was screencloud
[21:49] <Bashing-om> Malinux: Well .. We been on this now for 3 days . still no way forward / I admitt I do not know a way to find what the installed parent of libqt5widgets5 is . Still seeking to find out .
[21:50] <vivekp> On ubuntu gnome 16.04 now, a process named "tracker-extract" is consuming 220+ MB of RAM forever. Is it normal?
[21:50] <Guest19834> i installed ubuntu 16.04 lts server on an old laptop. i've now logged in, and want to connect to the inet. i'm not using an
[21:50] <Guest19834>                     ethernet cable. with ifconfig -a i get emp2s0 (Link encap:Ethernet), lo (Link encap:Local Loopback) and wlp3s0 (Link encap:
[21:50] <Guest19834>                     Ethernet). am i right in that none of these are wifi?
[21:50] <Guest19834> sorry, copy/pasted and the irssi didnt like it.
[21:52] <vivekp> Oh, and normal RAM usage is very high with just an IRC client opened right now. Never had such issues prior to upgrade.
[21:53] <vivekp> 2 Gigs of RAM in use right now -- I don't understand why.
[21:53] <ruyicruz>  maybe its swap ram?
[21:53] <Fooster> 14.04 has v3 zoneinfo files and 12.04 has v2. does anyone know whether its possible to get v2 on 14.04 easily?
[21:54] <vivekp> ruyicruz: No, swap is not in use at all.
[21:55] <Malinux> Bashing-om: okey
[21:56] <Ben64> vivekp: paste the output of "free -m" to paste.ubuntu.com
[21:56] <vivekp> Anyone know what this process called "tracker extract" doing?
[21:57] <vivekp> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17666303/
[21:57] <mundus2018> Why would the command node not work if I have nodejs installed
[21:58] <mundus2018> If I just try to install "node" it has no installation conidate
[21:58] <Ben64> vivekp: doesn't look like you're running a normal ubuntu system
[21:58] <vivekp> Normal? I'm on Ubuntu Gnome 16.04
[21:59] <Ben64> oh, they changed the output of free in 16.04
[22:00] <Ben64> vivekp: you've only got 1.5GB used, i think you're doing ok
[22:01] <vivekp> But, system monitor shows different story altogether...
[22:01] <vivekp> 2 GB it shows
[22:02] <Ben64> free doesn't lie, you're probably including some cache/buffer
[22:02] <Ben64> even if it was 2GB out of 8.... still totally fine
[22:04] <vivekp> But it's still high usage when compared to what I was used to before upgrade and I have nothing else running right now except this IRC client
[22:04] <Ben64> so? what actual problem is it causing
[22:06] <vivekp> Sorry, nevermind -- my main concern is that process called "tracker extract"
[22:06] <vivekp> not sure what it's doing there
[22:06] <Koyaanis> hey. im trying to install php-soap with apt-get, but it suggests me not only php-soap, but also php7.0-common and php7.0-soap, which i can NOT have installed. how can i make it only install php-soap?
[22:06] <Ben64>  tracker-extract  reads  the  file  and  mimetype  provided in stdin and extract the metadata from this file; then it displays the  metadata  on the standard output.
[22:07] <nmide> hi, how can i prevent the system from f***ing with my resolv.conf?
[22:07] <nmide> i disabled resolvconf.service in systemd, still the file is deleted on boot
[22:07] <nmide> i just want a normal resolv.conf file no weird automated thing that messes with my settings
[22:07] <__sled> hi
[22:08] <Ben64> nmide: what is the output of "ls -ld /etc/resolv.conf"
[22:08] <OerHeks> vivekp, oh gnome version of Kworker > tracker tracker-extract tracker-gui tracker-miner-fs tracker-utils
[22:08] <vivekp> Ben64: it ought to use 220 MB of RAM to perform its operations?
[22:08] <Ben64> vivekp: sure maybe
[22:09] <nmide> ben64: its a symbolic link to some other strange place instead of properly being just a file
[22:09] <nmide> if i remove the link and create a normal file will this solve my issue?
[22:09] <__sled> Maybe this question is too specific. But it happens on Ubuntu. Is it possible that, having a heavy SSD disk-write thread, the load of the whole machine for this huge writing of data affects the running time of other threads, even if assigned to different CPU cores using pthread_affinity ?
[22:09] <vivekp> OerHeks: Sorry, I don't understand... what again?
[22:09] <Ben64> nmide: maybe, it's not recommended though
[22:10] <nmide> recommended by who? for over 10 years if i need to change my resolver settings i simply edit /etc/resolv.conf manually and place my settings there
[22:10] <vivekp> Ben64: Would you advise against killing it?
[22:10] <nmide> or make a dhcp script that does the same
[22:10] <Ben64> vivekp: yes
[22:11] <OerHeks> vivekp, tracker is some indexing service, let it run out ( it works in the background )
[22:11] <Ben64> nmide: easier way is to put whatever you want into /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[22:12] <nmide> respectfully, that is not easier, it is radically changing how that configuration is typically done
[22:12] <nmide> and isn't behavior that should be present by default
[22:13] <Ben64> nmide: then by all means, do whatever you want
[22:13] <nmide> but aside from that, thanks, i removed the sym link
[22:13] <vivekp> I don't know, I've never been used to such high RAM usage with just one application running.
[22:13] <vivekp> 16.04 has sure brought some new things to comply by.
[22:13] <nmide> *things to fix, yes, i can see that
[22:13] <nmide> haha
[22:13] <Fooster> 14.04 has v3 zoneinfo files and 12.04 has v2. does anyone know whether its possible to get v2 on 14.04 easily?
[22:16] <vivekp> I hope it gets fixed if its not normal behaviour. IMHO it's at-least unusual tho.
[22:16] <Bashing-om> Malinux: Not to say I am ready to five up .. a matter of finding what is holding the lis to the elevated versions .. maybe qt5-default ?? Still trying to find out .
[22:16] <nmide> i'm sure people that implemented it thought it was normal, but in reality systemd adds an abstraction layer for configuration that nobody was asking for
[22:17] <unicron> whom should i pester about getting the ircd-ratbox package published for 16.04?
[22:17] <nmide> from what i've seen so far from using 16.04 systemd isn't production ready at all
[22:17] <nmide> but i can understand if experienced admins are not the target user
[22:17] <Ben64> nmide: systemd has nothing to do with resolv.conf
[22:17] <Ben64> and this is not the channel for rants
[22:19] <nmide> if i was 'ranting' you would know, i think what you actually mean is "this isn't the place for opinions ben64 doesn't agree with"
[22:19] <nmide> no problem
[22:21] <bear_> wenrwer
[22:21] <werwer> ok
[22:21] <werwer> SO!
[22:21] <werwer> JUST INSTALLED 15.04
[22:21] <werwer> How the hell do I get rid of Unity.
[22:21] <werwer> Well, not get rid of because it's kinda handy.
[22:22] <werwer> How do I switch my DE temperarily?
[22:22] <OerHeks> 15.04 is dead, install a supported version
[22:22] <werwer> OerHeks, I downloaded the "Latest"
[22:22] <werwer> The site said 16, I got 15
[22:22] <werwer> I'll do a dist upgrade later.
[22:22] <werwer> How do I drop myself into LXDE?
[22:23] <Ben64> install a supported version of ubuntu
[22:23] <werwer> Congats.
[22:23] <werwer> That's not an answer.
[22:24] <Ben64> it's the best answer
[22:24] <werwer> No it's not.
[22:24] <OerHeks> at least an honest answer.
[22:24] <werwer> It's ignoring the question at hand.
[22:24] <werwer> That's like me saying
[22:24] <Broseidon7Seez> why are you being so aggressive and expecting us to explain this to you?
[22:24] <Ben64> you're running an unsupported version of ubuntu. run a supported version of ubuntu
[22:24] <werwer> "I installed Ubuntu on my macbook, how do I get my trackpad working?"
[22:24] <werwer> ANd getting the response
[22:24] <tgm4883> werwer: where did you download 15.04 from? that shouldn't even be available anymore
[22:24] <Jordan_U> werwer: It's the only answer you'll get in this channel. We do not support EOL releases, in any way.
[22:24] <werwer> "GO BUY A PC, MACS SUCK!!"
[22:24] <OerHeks> ...
[22:25] <werwer> Like I said, I'm going to do a dist-upgrade
[22:25] <werwer> I'm trying not to break my install.
[22:25] <genii> !eolupgrade
[22:25] <Ben64> more like saying "I installed ubuntu 13.04 on my macbook, how do i get my trackpad working?" and getting the response "please install a supported version of ubuntu"
[22:25] <tgm4883> werwer: I'm worried about other users downloading that. So please let me know where you downloaded that from
[22:25] <werwer> ty genii
[22:25] <Jordan_U> werwer: Then you can get support here *after* you upgrade.
[22:25] <genii> werwer: See the bot's link, above
[22:25] <werwer> tgm4883, the website
[22:25] <tgm4883> werwer: link please
[22:25] <tgm4883> werwer: because I don't see it
[22:25] <Ben64> werwer: but if you JUST installed 15.04, then stop, and install a supported version of ubuntu
[22:25] <Ben64> much easier than upgrading
[22:26] <Jordan_U> werwer: We can also help you upgrade properly (though I recommend re-installing, possibly installing an Ubuntu flavor that doesn't use Unity).
[22:26] <futurama140> Cinnamon FTW
[22:26] <werwer> I don't want to completely leave Unity.
[22:27] <Broseidon7Seez> werwer
[22:27] <Broseidon7Seez> do you want a windows like environment?
[22:27] <werwer> Broseidon7Seez, I prefer LXDE
[22:27] <tgm4883> werwer: I've checked all the places I know and I can't figure out where you got 15.04 from
[22:27] <werwer> I am willing to make the transition
[22:27] <Ben64> werwer: then go grab lubuntu 16.04 iso and install that
[22:27] <Broseidon7Seez> and you don't know how to install lxde? is that what you're asking?
[22:27] <werwer> http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/
[22:27] <werwer> Found that one
[22:28] <futurama140> if you like the feel of the windows DE then go with cinnamon
[22:28] <tgm4883> werwer: can you paste the output of 'cat /var/log/installer/media-info | nc termbin.com 9999'
[22:28] <OerHeks> http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/
[22:28] <werwer> ok nvm
[22:28] <werwer> I do have 16.04
[22:28] <tgm4883> werwer: you didn't download it from there. That only has snappy images. You wouldn't have that
[22:28] <werwer> LiLi mis-identified
[22:28] <Broseidon7Seez> haha
[22:29] <werwer> So How do I switch into LXDE?
[22:29] <Broseidon7Seez> werwer, you can just open your terminal and enter: sudo apt update then sudo apt install lxde
[22:29] <werwer> I already installed it.
[22:29] <Broseidon7Seez> oh ok
[22:29] <Prelude2004c> hey guys.. looking for some help.. so i had a system in which i compiled ffmpeg on it and i installed libfreetype and libfdk_aac .. and all was well.. once i had the system exactly how i wanted it i simply made a copy of all the partitions and directories of the system to clone to another system... all worked well.. now i went back and i wanted to re-compile ffmpeg and its complaining about can't find libfdk_aac & freetype .. yet when i
[22:29] <Prelude2004c> look in /usr/include/* the directories for fdk-aac are there and freetype2 is there.. everything is there. yet i get a ERROR: libfdk_aac not found .. any help would be appreciated as i am stuck
[22:29] <werwer> How do I actually enter it?
[22:30] <futurama140> werwer: sudo apt-get install LXDE-desktop-environment
[22:30] <Prelude2004c> ubuntu 14 btw
[22:30] <Broseidon7Seez> all you have to do now is log out and there will be a button next to where you enter your password
[22:30] <Broseidon7Seez> or do you have no password to login
[22:30] <futurama140> werwer: log out and click the button by your log in and change log in session to the desktop environment you want
[22:30] <SonikkuAmerica> futurama140 - [ sudo apt install lxde ] you mean.
[22:30] <werwer> LXDE-desktop-environment
[22:31] <werwer> E: Unable to locate package LXDE-desktop-environment
[22:31] <futurama140> oops wrong one
[22:31] <nacc> Prelude2004c: libs != source headers?
[22:31] <futurama140> just do LXDE
[22:31] <Prelude2004c> nacc what does tha tmean ?
[22:31] <werwer> lxde is already the newest version (7ubuntu1).
[22:31] <werwer> The button isn't appearing
[22:31] <werwer> That's why I'm confused
[22:31] <futurama140> log out and take a screenshot
[22:31] <Broseidon7Seez> ok so you don't have a password required to log in
[22:32] <nacc> Prelude2004c: it would be better to pastebin the exact output; and what is the reason for needing a newer ffmpeg than provided by Ubuntu?
[22:32] <SonikkuAmerica> werwer - [ sudo apt install lxde ] then try running [ ls /usr/share/xsessions ]
[22:32] <Prelude2004c> nacc , its a personal compiled version as we have custom code in it
[22:32] <werwer> SonikkuAmerica, ubuntu.desktop
[22:32] <Prelude2004c> a few patches and stuff.. i have to use the source .. i don't use repo
[22:33] <werwer> One thing is really surpising me about this so far
[22:33] <Prelude2004c> my question is not the ffmpeg.. its the system.. somehow it can't see the stuff in /usr/include or whatever.
[22:33] <OerHeks> right top panel, change de
[22:33] <nacc> Prelude2004c: like i said, we can try and help if you provide the actual output (pastebin)
[22:33] <werwer> I haven't installed my GPU drivers, at least the proprietary ones
[22:33] <werwer> Yet the performance isn't terrible.
[22:33] <Prelude2004c> nacc, do you mean from ffmpeg output ? sure.. one sec
[22:33] <Jordan_U> werwer: Please pastebin the output of "systemctl status lightdm".
[22:33] <SonikkuAmerica> werwer - you need a .desktop file with the LXDE session set to start. Best way to do this is to install the lubuntu-desktop package, which automatically generates one.
[22:34] <nacc> Prelude2004c: whatever error you are getting, including whatever you are invoking that leads to the eror
[22:34] <Prelude2004c> http://pastebin.com/raw/mD2x3QUf
[22:35] <nacc> Prelude2004c: what version of Ubuntu?
[22:35] <Prelude2004c> 14.04
[22:35] <werwer> SonikkuAmerica, doing that
[22:36] <nacc> Prelude2004c: it's missing some header file (in particular sys/cdefs.h); where do you see any mention of fdk-aac or freetype2?
[22:36] <nacc> Prelude2004c: this is a really basic compilation solution, are you sure you want to be compiling from source?
[22:36] <Prelude2004c> yes i need to commpile from source
[22:37] <Prelude2004c> this is a custom ffmpeg version
[22:37] <nacc> Prelude2004c: ok, educational moment. Learn to read the compilation output, in particular the "fatal error" lines. That is the actual error.
[22:37] <nacc> Prelude2004c: the backtraces are where the file includes come from, not the error itself
[22:37] <Prelude2004c> here... locate  shows > /usr/include/sys/cdefs.h
[22:38] <werwer> I have two incredibly longshop questions
[22:38] <werwer> Linux voicechangers
[22:38] <werwer> Also, does anyone here understand how to redirect audio
[22:38] <werwer> also split into multiple pipes
[22:38] <Prelude2004c> maybe because the /usr/include is not set ?
[22:38] <Prelude2004c> do i need to export something first.
[22:39] <Prelude2004c> because /usr/include/sys/cdefs.h exists but its not seeing that  so maybe its looking in wrong place
[22:39] <Prelude2004c> i did include --extra-cflags=-I/usr/include
[22:40] <werwer> SonikkuAmerica, It's working.
[22:40] <werwer> I love you.
[22:40] <SonikkuAmerica> OK then, werwer ... lol :)
[22:41] <nacc> Prelude2004c: did you have to pass --extra-cflags before?
[22:41] <werwer> :)
[22:41] <werwer> SonikkuAmerica, Do you understand how to do real time audio manioulation?
[22:42] <Prelude2004c> its part of my command configure yes
[22:42] <Prelude2004c> let me remove it i guess
[22:42] <nacc> Prelude2004c: when you built last time too?
[22:42] <SonikkuAmerica> werwer - Real-time? Nope. Try #ubuntustudio
[22:42] <Prelude2004c> yes last time i built yes it had it
[22:42] <Prelude2004c> removed and it changed nothing
[22:43] <Prelude2004c> still can't find stuff in /usr/include/
[22:43] <Prelude2004c> its like the system doesn't know where /usr/include is .. very odd
[22:43] <nacc> Prelude2004c: that's not true, as it is using files from /usr/include
[22:43] <nacc> Prelude2004c: *again*, are you absolutely sure you want to compile from source? debugging stuff like this (on your own) is part of it...
[22:43] <nacc> Prelude2004c: you can see the backtrace says it's using files from /usr/include (math.h, features.h)
[22:43] <Prelude2004c> nacc, i don't have a choice.. this is a custom git repo version
[22:44] <Prelude2004c> it has certain fixes for my application
[22:44] <werwer> SonikkuAmerica, know anything about stream splitting and redirection?
[22:44] <werwer> You know, with Alsa
[22:44] <Prelude2004c> well /usr/include/sys/cdefs.h exists
[22:45] <nacc> Prelude2004c: are you by any chance cross-compiling or anything? 64-bit?
[22:45] <SonikkuAmerica> werwer - beats me
[22:45] <werwer> Anyone here know about Alsa?
[22:45] <werwer> The stuff under the hood
[22:45] <RomanLier> Hello again
[22:46] <werwer> I'm just wondering if any of you know about Stream re-direction, splitting, copying, all in real time
[22:46] <Prelude2004c> wait !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i got it
[22:46] <Prelude2004c> cp -Rf /old/1/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/sys/ /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/ .. the folder was missing
[22:46] <nacc> Prelude2004c: uh... why are you mucking with the compiler include files?
[22:46] <Prelude2004c> we excluded the /sys and for some reason it excluded all folders */sys/ .. hum.. i see the issue
[22:46] <Prelude2004c> its compiling now :P yay !!
[22:47] <werwer> If anyone's wondering
[22:47] <nacc> werwer: that might be better asked in #linux or an alsa channel
[22:47] <Prelude2004c> simple problem really
[22:47] <RomanLier> I need help with onboard, does it support korean? i can't find any information about the language support...
[22:47] <werwer> I want to create a Alsa sink
[22:47] <Jordan_U> werwer: For redirecting streams you'll want to use pulseaudio or *possibly* jackd, but don't install jackd until you have done your research about it.
[22:47] <nacc> werwer: use !alis to find a good channel
[22:47] <werwer> Jordan_U, Not touching jack, heard horror stories
[22:47] <RomanLier> And I'd like to use it with korean characters...
[22:47] <Prelude2004c> file was existed as a symbolic link to the missing directory
[22:48] <nacc> Prelude2004c: so when earlier, you said you made a copy of partitions and directories; you didn't?
[22:48] <nacc> Prelude2004c: or the  copy wasn't exact?
[22:48] <nacc> Prelude2004c: that's why there are way better ways of doing backups/system clones then doing it yoursel f:)
[22:52] <werwer> ok
[22:52] <werwer> Important question!
[22:52] <werwer> Also stupid
[22:52] <werwer> I have LXDE working, is it safe to leave Unity alone and just ignore it?
[22:53] <werwer> Will there be any side effects from installing LXDE to replace Unity
[22:53] <Broseidon7Seez> not stupid.. have to learn somewhere. You can just ignore unity and log in when you want, so long as you don't mess up dependencies or delete files from unity
[22:54] <werwer> ok, I have pretty good experience with Linux on my servers but never my desktop
[22:54] <werwer> This is the first time that I've ever had luck with AMD drivers
[22:54] <Broseidon7Seez> there shouldn't be any side effects from installing lxde. just be careful installing desktop interfaces following guides on the net, like if you install kubuntu-desktop to get plasma you CAN run into issues
[22:54] <werwer> my computer hasn't burst into flames so far.
[22:54] <Broseidon7Seez> haha
[22:55] <werwer> AMD drivers are terrible under Linux
[22:55] <werwer> Nvidia is worse.
[22:55] <werwer> Intel was my only smooth experience
[22:55] <Broseidon7Seez> well right now on 16.04 we seem to be in limbo with amd drivers
[22:55] <werwer> ?
[22:56] <werwer> Broseidon7Seez, would you say Phoronix is a good source to figure out what GPU to get for Linux?
[22:57] <werwer> You guys have to understand, the reason I've never used Linux on my desktop before was because the experience wasn't very polished and felt hacked together
[22:57] <werwer> Last time I tried was 12.04 Ubuntu
[22:57] <Broseidon7Seez> werwer I'm not sure never have been to that website actually.
[22:57] <werwer> From 12.04 to 16.04 is like a Pentium 3 to a Core i7 6700k
[22:57] <Broseidon7Seez> alot of us are new.. I just started using linux at home with ubuntu 14.04
[22:57] <werwer> Broseidon7Seez, I did run Ubuntu 7.04 on a pentium 2
[22:58] <werwer> Gnome on a p2 with 256 of RDRAM was hell.
[22:58] <nacc> let's stay on /topic :)
[22:58] <werwer> I enured hell.
[22:58] <werwer> Stupid question again, what's a good alternative to archive manager?
[22:58] <k1l_> amd got a lot of issues due to their shift from closed source to kernel drivers since 16.04.
[22:58] <werwer> Archlive manager hangs a lot.
[22:59] <k1l_> werwer: apt on cli
[22:59] <werwer> archive
[22:59] <werwer> not package
[22:59] <RomanLier> werwer: Stupid answer: Nautilus
[22:59] <k1l_> you mean file-roller?
[22:59] <nacc> werwer: isn't archive manager the tarball GUI?
[22:59] <werwer> idk
[22:59] <RomanLier> Oh, i know what you mean
[22:59] <RomanLier> werwer: I use B1 free archiver
[23:00] <werwer> ty for the suggestions
[23:00] <werwer> I'm using Nautilus quite well now
[23:00] <k1l_> !info file-roller
[23:00] <werwer> file roller hung trying to extract 41mb of files...
[23:00] <k1l_> but you need to install the archive packages to get file-roller to handle those formats
[23:00] <werwer> it was a .zip
[23:01] <nacc> werwer: and what do you mean by "hang"? it can just take some time, depending on disk speed, size of the archive, etc.
[23:01] <k1l_> make sure to install the proper formats then. fileroller works with zip and even bigger files
[23:01] <werwer> nacc, completely unresponsive
[23:01] <werwer> I let it sit, wasn't extracting
[23:02] <werwer> Can I get some tips on privacy and security with Ubuntu?
[23:02] <werwer> I've already followed fixubuntu.com
[23:02] <k1l_> werwer: look at the logs what was wrong.
[23:02] <werwer> Any other suggestions?
[23:02] <k1l_> werwer: that is FUD, you are aware of that?
[23:02] <werwer> The fact that it searches Amazon still isn't welcome.
[23:02] <werwer> if I want amazon I have Chrome and Firefox, I'd rather not use Unity.
[23:04] <k1l_> werwer: look at system settings-> privacy. its opt-in
[23:04] <werwer> k1l_, You're talking to the guy who unplugs his mic when not in use
[23:04] <werwer> I have a harware switch but I still unplug it.
[23:05] <werwer> So I am taking a performance hit with the opensource amd drivers when trying Minecraft. I've gone from 100fps to 60
[23:05] <werwer> So far nothing's caught on fire though
[23:07] <werwer> So any suggestions for tweaks I should do to improve my experience coming from windows?
[23:07] <werwer> I know I need to set some keybinds
[23:07] <werwer> like Super-L, Super-R
[23:08] <Ben64> if you want more performance, i'd suggest not using unity
[23:08] <nacc> werwer: i thought you just installed lxde? why do you care about unity?
[23:08] <werwer> Using LXDE
[23:08] <werwer> nacc, I do want to learn to work with Untiy.
[23:08] <werwer> Unity*
[23:08] <marus> i've installed ubuntu 14.04 from usb, and i've got the grub error so i just fineshed the installation without grub
[23:09] <iamanewb> Hey guys, I hope someone can help me. I am trying to run a gui that uses qt and i am getting these error messages: libGL error: failed to open drm device: Permission denied
[23:09] <iamanewb> libGL error: failed to load driver: i965
[23:09] <marus> i don't know how can i boot the system
[23:10] <Malinux> Bashing-om: thanks. i am gonna sleep again :)
[23:10] <werwer> marus, boot rescue disk and mount your drive that doesn't have grub
[23:10] <werwer> then iirc, grub-install <disk without grub>
[23:11] <werwer> Well, you might want to chroot to that disk first.
[23:11] <avis-> gmail
[23:11] <nacc> iamanewb: what gui?
[23:11] <Bashing-om> Malinux: Sleep well .. Still do not know how to find what may have installed the libraries . Libraries are common to many applications.
[23:11] <umoukun> nacc: can I privmsg you for some kernel/grub help?
[23:11] <marus> werwer:http://askubuntu.com/questions/532540/ubuntu-installation-failure-unable-to-install-grub/532549
[23:11] <marus> like this answer?
[23:12] <nacc> umoukun: would rather you kept in the channel, if possible
[23:12] <umoukun> ok
[23:12] <werwer> umoukun, yes.
[23:12] <umoukun> is there a way to configure a single kernel entry in grub.conf
[23:12] <werwer> sorry, marus *
[23:12] <nacc> umoukun: how do you mean?
[23:12] <umoukun> whenever I run update-grub2, it puts the current kernel in the config
[23:13] <Queenslayer> use grub customizer
[23:13] <marus> werwer: so just boot with usb again? and mount the partition where ubuntu is installed and then chroot and excute update-grub?
[23:13] <umoukun> I cant use grub custom
[23:13] <umoukun> I run server
[23:14] <avis-> in addition to amazon icon is there a facebook one ?
[23:14] <iamanewb> nacc: is a gui developed for ROS (robot operating system) and uses QT 5 libraries
[23:14] <umoukun> should I purge the unused kernel?
[23:14] <nacc> umoukun: so were you able to boot to the newer kernel?
[23:14] <umoukun> no
[23:14] <nacc> umoukun: did you try grub-set-default ?
[23:14] <umoukun> I dont get it
[23:14] <umoukun> yeah
[23:14] <k1l_> iamanewb: try "sudo adduser username video"
[23:14] <umoukun> its in /boot
[23:14] <nacc> umoukun: what is in /boot?
[23:14] <k1l_> iamanewb: change username to the exact username
[23:14] <marus> seem that everyway has Problem with grub here :D
[23:14] <Conner> Anyone here do programming or operating system dev?
[23:15] <nacc> Conner: yes, but there are probably better channels for that kind of question (check !alis)
[23:15] <ubuntu__> curious in ubuntu is there any configuration file for changing the toolbars background color or setting a background theme for the toolbars?
[23:16] <iamanewb> k1l_: i tried and the error messages still pop up
[23:16] <Conner> nacc: "!alis"?
[23:16] <nacc> !alis | Conner
[23:16] <ubuntu__> Also is there away to move the left launcher toolbar to a different place on the desktop to an (x,y ) postion on a desktop
[23:16] <campee> does anyone know the proper syntax to blacklist a module at boot? i'm trying to prevent my 40gig cards from being detected when running the ubuntu installer
[23:17] <campee> i did this: APPEND initrd=/ubuntu-installer/amd64/initrd.gz console=tty0 ixgbe.blacklist=yes mlx4_core.blacklist=yes mlx4_en.blacklist=yes
[23:17] <start2work> !l
[23:17] <campee> but i still see the cards, and i'm sure those are the right kernel modules
[23:17] <nacc> campee: i don't think that's right.
[23:17] <umoukun> nacc: http://pastebin.com/8fqehj7R thats whats in boot
[23:17] <nacc> campee: that's passing 'blacklist=yes' as a parameter to those modules
[23:17] <k1l_> ubuntu__: left or bottom is possible
[23:17] <nacc> campee: but that would necessarily load those modules, to parse the parameters...
[23:17] <ubuntu__> not any postion?
[23:18] <k1l_> iamanewb: relogin afterwards
[23:18] <campee> what would you put instead?
[23:18] <k1l_> ubuntu__: no.
[23:18] <ubuntu__> is there away to change the background color of the toolbars
[23:18] <umoukun> nacc: I dont get why update-grub doesnt pickup the new kernel
[23:19] <umoukun> have been using linux for over 20yrs
[23:19] <umoukun> baffled
[23:19] <ubuntu__> Or change the size of the icons that are pinned to the tool bars basically can you make the tool bars bigger or skinner , condense it etc
[23:19] <nacc> campee: i think you want to use modprobe.blacklist= (see `man modprobe`)
[23:19] <k1l_> ubuntu__: look at the "unity-tweak-tool"
[23:19] <nacc> umoukun: it does pick up the newer kernel, afaict (based upon your prior messages); it's just not setting it to be the default
[23:20] <campee> nacc: let me try that
[23:20] <EriC^^> umoukun: what's the problem?
[23:20] <ubuntu__> O i was wondering from an x11 config file or config file in /etc  or something not having to install a program to do so
[23:20] <umoukun> nacc: whats the syntax for a new boot entry
[23:20] <ubuntu__> Plus i would then be asking how the program does it
[23:20] <k1l_> ubuntu__: you can dig through dconf editor if you like
[23:21] <umoukun> sudo grub-set-default --boot-/boot ?
[23:21] <umoukun> EriC^^: having problems with kernels
[23:21] <nacc> umoukun: hrm? new boot entry? or setting the default?
[23:21] <campee> nacc: i don't suppose you know of a way to force a particular ethernet card to be detected as eth0 during install?
[23:22] <nacc> umoukun: did you read `man grub-set-default` ?
[23:22] <umoukun> nacc: I commented out the old kernel in grubconf
[23:22] <umoukun> there isnt anything in the man page
[23:22] <k1l_> ubuntu__: or the gsettings command on cli. have fun diggin through the docs then :)
[23:22] <EriC^^> umoukun: what are you trying to do?
[23:22] <nacc> umoukun: it tells you how to invoke it... and there's no --boot parameter
[23:22] <umoukun> trying to update my kernel with grub
[23:23] <iamanewb> k1l_: hey, i now get a different error message so some progress i think :): libGL error: pci id for fd 15: 8086:1916, driver (null)
[23:23] <iamanewb> i965_dri.so does not support the 0x1916 PCI ID.
[23:23] <iamanewb> libGL error: failed to create dri screen
[23:23] <iamanewb> libGL error: failed to load driver: i965
[23:23] <ubuntu__> is there away to get rid of the top menu bar or is that part of the launcher program as well
[23:23] <nacc> campee: looking one sec
[23:23] <umoukun> what do I use for MENU_ENTRY
[23:23] <umoukun> the kernel?
[23:23] <EriC^^> umoukun: update-grub should pick it up
[23:23] <nacc> umoukun: 'MENU_ENTRY is a number, a menu item title or a menu item identifier.'
[23:23] <umoukun> EriC^^: it doesnt
[23:24] <nacc> EriC^^: umoukun's grub does see all the kernels, but it's booting to the older kernel for some reason
[23:24] <k1l_> iamanewb: please run "lspci |nc termbin .com 9999" and show the url here
[23:24] <EriC^^> umoukun: pastebin update-grub's output
[23:24] <marus> can any one help with ubuntu installion without grub Problem?
[23:24] <EriC^^> marus: what's the problem exactly?
[23:24] <k1l_> iamanewb: and the output of "uname -a" please in here
[23:24] <campee> nacc: hey, that blacklist method worked! thanks a lot! the NIC is showing up as em1 though, and my preseed file tells it to configure eth0 :(
[23:25] <marus> EriC^^:Unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda
[23:25] <umoukun> I just set the default to 1
[23:25] <EriC^^> marus: the installer said that?
[23:25] <marus> EriC^^: i try to install from usb stick in ssd hard drive and i get this error
[23:25] <iamanewb> k1l_: i get http://termbin.com/8wlo and Linux wheely-prototype 4.2.0-27-generic #32~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 22 15:32:26 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:25] <umoukun> still the same kerne
[23:25] <marus> EriC^^: right
[23:25] <EriC^^> umoukun: if update-grub didn't pick it up, setting that won't do anything
[23:25] <umoukun> I dont even get it
[23:26] <umoukun> how does the config not even control this
[23:26] <umoukun> I dont get it
[23:26] <EriC^^> chill..
[23:26] <horatiohb> How do I change the root filesystem to another device? I've edited fstab to mount it as the new root fs, but it doesn't take. This is on a vbox, btw.
[23:26] <EriC^^> umoukun: can you please paste the output of update-grub?
[23:26] <umoukun> ok
[23:27] <Ben64> horatiohb: how would it change when it has to load fstab from the root partition
[23:27] <marus> EriC^^: just like this error http://askubuntu.com/questions/532540/ubuntu-installation-failure-unable-to-install-grub/532549
[23:27] <umoukun> http://pastebin.com/vaXRX2vf
[23:27] <k1l_> iamanewb: you might want to try the new HWE: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack replace the wily with xenial on this
[23:27] <umoukun> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/vaXRX2vf
[23:28] <nacc> campee: yep, trying to find the syantx, one sec
[23:28] <horatiohb> Ben64: I don't understand you. I'm on a vbox. I even detached the old device and attached only the new one. But then it won't boot.
[23:28] <craptalk> what is the most lighweight linux distro for an old pc?
[23:28] <EriC^^> umoukun: ok, it does pick up the 88 kernel
[23:28] <umoukun> should I just rm the files and run update grub?
[23:28] <EriC^^> umoukun: is that the kernel you want it to boot?
[23:28] <craptalk> is it only Lubuntu?
[23:28] <EriC^^> umoukun: no
[23:28] <umoukun> EriC^^: yeah
[23:28] <umoukun> it uses 79 every damn time
[23:29] <EriC^^> umoukun: pastebin /etc/default/grub and /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[23:29] <umoukun> ok
[23:29] <EriC^^> umoukun: do you have multiple hdd's?
[23:29] <umoukun> no
[23:29] <umoukun> one ssd
[23:29] <umoukun> vm
[23:29] <EriC^^> ok
[23:29] <k1l_> craptalk: we only support ubuntu flavours in here, if you want non ubuntu stuff ask in ##linux (like you know that since we told you often)
[23:30] <craptalk> k1l_: you know me before?
[23:30] <EriC^^> marus: are you in the live usb right now?
[23:30] <iamanewb> k1l_: i will give that a shot if i get a chance. Thanks for your help!
[23:31] <ubuntu__> ok more general question if i was using pure x11 gnome or kde is there a configuration file to  set the toolbars configuration like sizes, placement,  background color/transparency /image
[23:31] <Bashing-om> umoukun: Might also check and see what is set to boot ' ls -al /vmlinuz* ; ls -al /intird* ' .
[23:31] <umoukun> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/ZhDH4y9u
[23:31] <ikonia> umoukun: thats nothing to do with x
[23:31] <umoukun> x?
[23:31] <ikonia> umoukun: oops, sorry
[23:31] <umoukun> wtf
[23:31] <umoukun> ok
[23:31] <ikonia> ubuntu__: thats nothing to do wtih X, thats a desktop specific config
[23:31] <k1l_> iamanewb: thing is, your skylake cpu/gpu is that new and had issues on kernels <4.4. which is shipped on 16.04. with that way i told you you can have that new kernel and xorg on the 14.04
[23:31] <umoukun> heh
[23:32] <umoukun> NOTHING is wrong with my config
[23:32] <marus> EriC^^: i'm using another hardrive
[23:32] <ubuntu__> ok and does normally the desktop manager program have in the /etc a way to configure the toolbar
[23:32] <umoukun> I do not understand how it is booting to the same kernel
[23:32] <ikonia> umoukun: no
[23:32] <ikonia> umoukun: damn it, sorry
[23:32] <ikonia> ubuntu__: no,
[23:32] <umoukun> np
[23:32] <k1l_> ubuntu__: gnome uses dconf too, like unity (since they share the same base). i dont know about kde.
[23:33] <marus> EriC^^: but i have usb live
[23:33] <EriC^^> marus: ok, boot the live usb on the pc that has ubuntu on it
[23:33] <ubuntu__> so you kind of need to install another toolbar  and windows manager and put them in your xinitrc at start up or something
[23:33] <EriC^^> umoukun: hold shift to get grub and troubleshoot it from there
[23:33] <ikonia> ubuntu__: no, why don't you explain your situation and what you're trying to do
[23:33] <EriC^^> umoukun: check what it's using for the configfile
[23:33] <umoukun> I have no access to the console
[23:33] <ikonia> rather than generic questions that depend a lot
[23:33] <marus> EriC^^: then?
[23:33] <ubuntu__> dconf is a database for what the man page doesn't tell me what it is really for
[23:33] <k1l_> craptalk: do i really need to prove you how often i told you about the topic of #ubuntu since march?
[23:34] <EriC^^> marus: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:34] <umoukun> how do I see what config its using
[23:34] <EriC^^> try echo $prefix
[23:34] <marus> EriC^^. i've typed fdisk -l , and the system is installed in /dev/sdf1
[23:34] <k1l_> ubuntu__: i dont think you understand how complex a big desktop enviroment like gnome, unity or kde is. what is you endgoal behind the question? you want a minimal desktop?
[23:35] <EriC^^> and try to force it with configfile (hdx,msdosY)/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[23:35] <EriC^^> marus: ok, try sudo mount /dev/sdf1 /mnt
[23:35] <ubuntu__> to customize the toolbar any way i would like it to be
[23:36] <ikonia> ubuntu__: what tool bar ?
[23:36] <k1l_> ubuntu__: think of dconf as of the windows registry. its a key based configuration system
[23:36] <k1l_> ubuntu__: most things are not coded to be changed in "any way"
[23:36] <ubuntu__> because apart from the theme desktop picture, icons , the only thing  is the toolbar . For getting the windows manager  for a second
[23:36] <marus> EriC^^: sudo mount /dev/sdf1 /mnt, sudo chroot /mnt, update-grub?
[23:37] <ikonia> ubuntu__: what desktop are you using
[23:37] <ubuntu__> i think unity it is ubuntu 14
[23:37] <nacc> campee: can't you just use 'auto' in your preseed?
[23:37] <EriC^^> marus: no, after sudo mount do "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done"
[23:37] <campee> nacc: hm, i'll try that.
[23:37] <ikonia> ubuntu__: ok - so when you say toolbar, are you talking about "the dock"
[23:37] <k1l_> ubuntu__: you want a microsoft windows lookalike?
[23:37] <campee> nacc: thanks!
[23:38] <nacc> campee: also, keep in mind, there is a sort of conceptual race between stuff needed to configure network in order to get your preseed file and then processing the same preseed file
[23:38] <ubuntu__> there is only a left hand toolbar that i can from system settings auto hide or the top fix toolbar is the top one called the dock
[23:38] <nacc> campee: meaning sometimes you might need to pass the d-i values on the installer cmdline
[23:38] <marus> EriC^^: kk will try it
[23:38] <ikonia> ubuntu__: ok - so it's the launcher you're talking about
[23:38] <ikonia> ubuntu__: where you launch apps
[23:38] <k1l_> ubuntu__: on unity the left bar is named "launcher" and the top bar is named "panel"
[23:39] <k1l_> ubuntu__: and unity is not that much configurable. neither is gnome-shell. i guess kde gives more options
[23:40] <ubuntu__> ok  how do you remove items or change items on the panel thats one thing i was curious  about. And the major thing was the launcher toolbar to the left
[23:40] <k1l_> ubuntu__: remove what exactly? and what is "the issue" with the launcher?
[23:40] <ubuntu__> the small icons on it changing them , adding or removing
[23:41] <k1l_> ubuntu__: did you look into "unity-tweak-tool" if you dont want to dig through dconf settings as i told you 5 times now?
[23:41] <ubuntu__> for the panel
[23:41] <k1l_> changing the icons would work best with icon themes.
[23:41] <CodeMouse92> ubuntu__: Are you wanting to change what programs are ON the launcher?
[23:42] <Tin_man> i think thats what he's wanting to do.
[23:42] <RomanLier> ok bye
[23:43] <k1l_> ubuntu__: you can blacklist icons (most are called "indicators") from been shown on the panel.
[23:43] <CodeMouse92> ubuntu__: If so, you can remove an icon from the launcher (on the side) by right-clicking the icon and clicking "unlock from launcher". The icon will always be there while the program in question is running, but if the icon is unlocked, then it will disappear as soon as the program is closed.
[23:43] <Tin_man> ubuntu__, if you don't want a icon in the launcher, just right click on it and remove it.
[23:43] <k1l_> but that could have been asked in the first place.
[23:43] <ubuntu__> no talking about removing small icons from the panel top bar
[23:43] <CodeMouse92> ubuntu__: You can add new icons to the launcher by searching for a program in the Dash, and drag-dropping it onto the Launcher. Alternatively, if the program is already running, you can right-click its icon on the launcher and click "Lock to launcher"
[23:44] <CodeMouse92> ubuntu__: Finally, just drag and drop the icons on the launcher to rearrange them
[23:44] <k1l_> CodeMouse92: Tin_man i dont think we understood what ubuntu__ wants at all
[23:44] <Tin_man> most of those are fixed icons, like, date, time, and system
[23:44] <mike12> hello
[23:44] <ubuntu__> i know how to take care of add/removing icons from the launcher not from the panel thats my issue
[23:44] <Tin_man> now he's talking top panel
[23:44] <k1l_> ubuntu__: then blacklist them
[23:44] <CodeMouse92> ubuntu__: Ah. Which icons specifically do you want to remove from the panel?
[23:45] <ubuntu__> EN one on top panel how do you blacklist them?
[23:45] <CodeMouse92> ubuntu__: Ah, that's an easy one. Go to System Settings and Text Entry
[23:46] <CodeMouse92> And then uncheck the box on the lower left that says "Show current input source in the menu bar"
[23:46] <ikonia> ubuntu__: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/shell-overview.html
[23:46] <k1l_> take it out of the "systray-whitelist" in dconf
[23:46] <k1l_> CodeMouse92: that is not working on unity.
[23:46] <CodeMouse92> (Why are we overcomplicating this? The option is in System Settings)
[23:46] <CodeMouse92> k1l_: Really? I just did it in Unity
[23:47] <ubuntu__> so how do you do it for the other ones like mail  time ,...etc
[23:47] <ubuntu__> worked for EN
[23:47] <CodeMouse92> ubuntu__: The easiest way is with the unity-tweak-tool (sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool)
[23:47] <k1l_> CodeMouse92: sorry, you are right. i misinterpreted the "EN".
[23:47] <CodeMouse92> ubuntu__: Install that, start it up, and go to Panel. You can toggle most of the built-in icons there
[23:48] <k1l_> ubuntu__: i told you to use the easy method: unity-tweak-tool 5 times now. since you refuse go and dig the dconf editor finally. its the com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist key
[23:49] <CodeMouse92> ubuntu__: The mail indicator specifically is a program called 'indicator-messages', which you can remove if you don't want it anymore at all
[23:49] <ubuntu__> you sure thats availabe for 14 version because i have all repo check and i don't see it
[23:50] <mundus2018> I mustve hit some key combination or something but I cant scroll in my terminal anymore, it just scrolls my commands, how do I fix that?
[23:50] <mundus2018> xfce
[23:50] <k1l_> !info unity-tweak-tool trusty
[23:50] <k1l_> ubuntu__: ^
[23:50] <CodeMouse92> ubuntu__: In the terminal, run "sudo apt-get install unity-tweak-tool"
[23:52] <atrom_> hello
[23:52] <ubuntu__> ok cool one last things on the gui enviorment is windows manager part is that just the program that takes care of the windows decoration , transparency , motion of windows , min,max,
[23:52] <CodeMouse92> ubuntu__: By the way, I'm curious why you want to remove many of these things from the panel. Some of them are pretty essential for day-to-day easy use of Ubuntu (clock).
[23:52] <ubuntu__> And theme of the windows
[23:53] <CodeMouse92> ubuntu__: unity-tweak-tool is good for that as well. You can install additional themes....
[23:53] <CodeMouse92> ubuntu__: A whole bunch of great themes for Ubuntu are here: http://noobslab.com/themes
[23:54] <CodeMouse92> They have installation instructions on each. Once you've installed a theme, use the Unity Tweak Tool -> Themes to switch the theme. Same goes for icon themes (http://noobslab.com/icons)
[23:54] <ubuntu__> I just want to know how to customize the gui enviroment all the different things given an arbitary  desktop manager but apparently it is highly dependent on the desktop manager configuration files and weather they let you configure what settings
[23:54] <CodeMouse92> OOps: http://www.noobslab.com/p/themes-icons.html#icons
[23:54] <CodeMouse92> ubuntu__: Well, Unity is pretty well limited to what you see already. You can change the icon theme and window colors, and there are some additional things in Unity Tweak Tool (just play with it)
[23:55] <CodeMouse92> But, by and large, Unity is what you see here.
[23:56] <CodeMouse92> ubuntu__: There are some additional tricks for Unity, which you can get by installing CompizConfig and its extras...
[23:56] <CodeMouse92> Install that in the terminal with the command "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-plugins-extra"
[23:57] <CodeMouse92> But pay attention to any warnings the program gives you, to ensure you don't break anything or make your system inoperable :)
[23:57] <furkan> anybody here have a skylake system? when i run prime95 under ubuntu, my CPU gets throttled to 2700MHz... under Windows 10 it runs at the 4000MHz base frequency
[23:57] <Lucid> I installed google chrome and it's not in the Unity search?
[23:57] <ubuntu__> so is the desktop manager just made up of toolbars , windows manager , and desktop theme/icons  (plus maybe a gui widget if one runs a background program)
[23:57] <k1l_> Lucid: did you relogin?
[23:57] <CodeMouse92> Lucid: sometimes you have to logout/login (or restart) to see those changes
[23:58] <CodeMouse92> ubuntu__: Mmmm....not precicely. Unity is a little more integrated than that.
[23:58] <Lucid> No I didn't. I'll try that now. Thanks.
[23:58] <ubuntu__> Is there away to switch out just the windows manager part  leaving the tool bars
[23:58] <CodeMouse92> ubuntu__: No
[23:58] <ikonia> ubuntu__: what is the desktop you want
[23:58] <ubuntu__> in gnome or kde or lxde
[23:58] <ikonia> you may as well just tell us - as your questions make no sense
[23:58] <ikonia> ubuntu__: what is the end goal you want
[23:59] <k1l_> ubuntu__: in theory: yes. but practical: not without you doing a lot of coding, since most stuff is not working together out of the box.


[23:48] <_marx_> nawrite
[23:48]  * _marx_ testing
[23:49] <_marx_> "classic 2d"
[23:49] <_marx_> done the things that result in freezes with unity and classic
[23:50] <_marx_> walk away and let the screensaver kick in
[23:51] <_marx_> that usually results in a mouse cursor working, keyboard working (c-a-fx works) and a black screen