[03:16] <LjL> !info xulrunner | kynes, why not use this? it's one version older, but
[03:16] <ubotu> kynes, why not use this? it's one version older, but: xulrunner: XUL + XPCOM application runner. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-4.2 (edgy), package size 253 kB, installed size 900 kB
[03:16] <kynes> ubotu : I need >=<IP_ADDRESS>
[03:16] <rambo3> or sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig
[03:16] <kynes> ubotu : I just need to install <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:16] <ferronica> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12930/
[03:17] <fuzzy_logic> kynes: ubotu is a bot :) u can't talk to it
[03:17] <rambo3> !backports > kynes
[03:17] <LjL> kynes: then please be more specific about what fails when you try to build from the tar
[03:17] <Yasuo> hi
[03:17] <FD-Spuddy> hi how are you - You are Speaking to Spuddys Bot
[03:17] <LjL> rambo3: doesn't apply... it's still 1.8.0 even in feisty
[03:17] <kynes> LjL : okay.. the installation is normally like this
[03:17] <LjL> ferronica: sorry, my bad
[03:17] <UbuntuGuy> sipior: when I dropped the new font into fonts:/// it showed up in my .fonts folder.  It doesn't show up in list of available fonts, tho
[03:17] <LjL> ferronica:  cd "/home/tushar/DVD Rip/"   ;  unrar x "Black.Snake.Moan.PROPER.REPACK.TS.XViD-20th/20th-bsmpr.rar"
[03:17] <LjL> ferronica: i forgot the "x"
[03:17] <Philderbeast> anyone able to give me a hand with getting ventrillo working?
[03:17] <sipior> UbuntuGuy: which list of fonts?
[03:17] <kynes> LjL : you extract the contents to someplace
[03:18] <kynes> LjL : then you have to execute "xulrunner --register-global" to register with the system
[03:18] <sipior> UbuntuGuy: gnome, or something like firefox?
[03:18] <UbuntuGuy> sipior: e.g. in openoffice or abiword or even gedit
[03:18] <nandovieira> hi... How can I change the current line background color on gedit?
[03:18] <ferronica> LjL: something going on
[03:18] <ferronica> LjL: :)
[03:18] <KalleDK> Philderbeast http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41737
[03:18] <nandovieira> I think I have to change the gtkrc, but I don't what do I need to change
[03:18] <LjL> ferronica: finally :) i do wonder how /usr/bin/unrar could get deleted, though
[03:19] <sipior> UbuntuGuy: can you see them from the gnome font dialogue?
[03:19] <ferronica> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12931/
[03:19] <kip> hello, i have  aproblem, i don't see the previw of jpg-avi-ecc.. file....
[03:19] <ferronica> LjL: please check this.
[03:19] <LjL> ferronica: it says everything extracted successfully.
[03:19] <kip> sorry for bad english
[03:20] <sipior> UbuntuGuy: it's possible that openoffice or abiword have a different opinion on where fonts should be, you may have to do some googling for these
[03:20] <ferronica> LjL:  and where is extracted file is
[03:20] <UbuntuGuy> sipior nope, not in gnome fonts either
[03:20] <erdinger> !upgrade
[03:20] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:20] <LjL> ferronica: in /home/tushar/DVD Rip/ , or a subdirectory of it
[03:20] <ferronica> LjL:  ok got
[03:20] <LjL> kynes: but?
[03:20] <Peddro> does maybe anyone know how to make a extra serial port, for me a ttyS4?
[03:20] <Jowi> UbuntuGuy, it might take a while before the fonts in ~/.fonts becomes available.
[03:21] <sipior> UbuntuGuy: hmmm...i know it's not helpful to say, "it works on my system", but... :-) what are the permissions on the .fonts folder?
[03:21] <ferronica> LjL:  so complicated, is some other way by right clicking on file and select extract
[03:21] <chell> I am currently looking for a rhythmbox replacement. It has to be a GNOME app. I've found: exaile, banshee and exaile. Which one do you like best?
[03:21] <Yasuo> someone know a very small Calender-programm only showing the actual month like when i click the clock in windows(c)?
[03:21] <LjL> ferronica: yes, right clicking and selecting Extract should also work, *now* that you have unrar properly working
[03:21] <kothz> It takes me half an hour to decide between vanilla and chocolate, how am I supposed to decide between gnome and KDE :)
[03:21] <LjL> ferronica: try
[03:21] <Jowi> chell, quodlibet is amazing (but uses gstreamer)
[03:21] <ferronica> LjL:  ok
[03:21] <LjL> kothz: why decide at once? you can have both installed
[03:21] <LjL> !kde > kothz    (kothz, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:21] <RoundyT1> what antivirus program is usually "recommended" for Ubuntu?
[03:21] <Jowi> chell, it got very nice plugins and layout
[03:22] <LjL> RoundyT1: i don't feel the need to have an antivirus installed
[03:22] <LjL> !virus
[03:22] <ferronica> LjL:  it working tooo :)
[03:22] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[03:22] <fuzzy_logic> Yasuo: you can do that with the Ubuntu clock too
[03:22] <LjL> RoundyT1: still, ClamAV i'd suppose
[03:22] <chell> Jowi: Is there a repo containing current packages?
[03:22] <ferronica> LjL:  one more thins about Dleuge
[03:22] <Jowi> !info quodlibet
[03:22] <ubotu> quodlibet: audio library manager and player for GTK+. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.23.1-1 (edgy), package size 30 kB, installed size 132 kB
[03:22] <Yasuo> fuzzy_logic, well im using icewm
[03:22] <fuzzy_logic> RoundyT1: i have never used an antivirus program before, and never had probs
[03:22] <kothz> Thanks Lj... knew I could install both... but still... decisions, decisions :)
[03:22] <morgWork> hey guys
[03:22] <RoundyT1> LjL, I know I was just asking. Ok....lol i don't need one either...just saying "IF ever"
[03:22] <ferronica> LjL: when i start applicatin popup show me error
[03:22] <Jowi> chell, see above. it's in universe repo
[03:22] <LjL> kothz: i know the feeling :P
[03:23] <chell> is the version in universe current?
[03:23] <fuzzy_logic> Yasuo: then i can't help you, sorry
[03:23] <Yasuo> np
[03:23] <ferronica> LjL: PopupNotifier: not all necessary dependencies are installed. To install them, on Ubuntu run: apt-get python-notify notification-daemon
[03:23] <fuzzy_logic> Yasuo: just curious, why do you use that one and not KDE or Gnome?
[03:23] <Jowi> chell, no idea. and does it matter?
[03:23] <chell> well, it does if the new version is *a lot* better
[03:23] <morgWork> so I just built my new server running- planned on using hardware raid5 across all 4 drives, but the install cd doesn't see the raid drive- only the 4 independent drives.
[03:23] <LjL> ferronica: i'm afraid i don't know about that program... but do try typing  sudo apt-get install python-notify notification-daemon
[03:23] <a_life_delayed> Totem Movie Player 2.16.2 doesn't play my Spidey Man movie. I guess its a codec problem. Any hints?
[03:24] <LjL> ferronica: (there's a "sudo" and an "install" they seem to have forgotten...)
[03:24] <Jowi> chell, try it and make up your own mind.
[03:24] <chell> does it organise your music library?
[03:24] <Yasuo> fuzzy_logic, why dont you use windows :P imho icewm follows a bit more the un*x-idea
[03:24] <LjL> ferronica: wait, you mean Deluge the torrent client? it's available as a package...
[03:24] <LjL> !info deluge-torrent | ferronica
[03:24] <ubotu> ferronica: deluge-torrent: A Bittorrent client written in Python/PyGTK. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.0-2~edgy1 (edgy-backports), package size 1466 kB, installed size 3888 kB
[03:24] <morgWork> any suggestions on how to get the install CD to see the raid 5 drive?
[03:25] <Peddro> why are you guys ignoring me :(
[03:25] <morgWork> Peddro: because it's buy in here
[03:25] <eyalw_> help, wireless, i see networks, cant connect
[03:25] <Jowi> chell, yes
[03:25] <LjL> ferronica: ah nevermind, it's not available in Dapper, only Edgy
[03:25] <ferronica> LjL: can you solve this problem
[03:25] <chell> cool, I'll try it
[03:25] <Peddro> yeah i know ;)
[03:25] <fuzzy_logic> eyalw_: maybe the network key?
[03:25] <ferronica> LjL: but i am using it
[03:25] <LjL> ferronica: err, i told you to type  sudo apt-get install python-notify notification-daemon , have you done that yet?
[03:25] <fuzzy_logic> Yasuo: in what way?
[03:25] <ferronica> LjL: working all fine but showing ths error popup
[03:26] <LjL> ferronica: right, have you typed that?
[03:26] <ferronica> LjL: yes many times
[03:26] <Peddro> I need to know howto add a serial port, beside the ttyS0,1,2,3... I need the number 4 :)
[03:26] <eyalw_> fuzzy_logic: i enter it, and then it attemting connect for 30 secs and fails
[03:26] <LjL> ferronica: are you sure you've typed  sudo apt-get install python-notify notification-daemon  and not (like the program suggests)  apt-get python-notify notification-daemon   ?
[03:26] <ferronica> LjL: E: Couldn't find package python-notify
[03:26] <LjL> !info python-notify dapper
[03:26] <ubotu> Package python-notify does not exist in dapper
[03:27] <LjL> ferronica: ok, python-notify is only available for Edgy.
[03:27] <ferronica> LjL: ok
[03:27] <LjL> ferronica: you'll have to live with the popup error, or install Edgy
[03:27] <Yasuo> fuzzy_logic, icewm just does manages my windows, is small, fast and also has a start-button (so i dont gethomesick for windows).
[03:27] <kynes> LjL : The program 'xulrunner' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[03:27] <kynes> sudo apt-get install xulrunner Make sure you have the 'universe' component enabled bash: xulrunner: command not found
[03:27] <ferronica> LjL: do you know how to change Port in Default Bittorrent
[03:27] <kynes> LjL : when I do "xulrunner --register-global" it says this
[03:27] <fuzzy_logic> eyalw_: strange, wireless works like charm here.. but wireless has always been a bad supported thing in Linux
[03:28] <ferronica> LjL: because there is no option for ports in application
[03:28] <ferronica> LjL: so i thought if it possible from Text
[03:28] <fuzzy_logic> Yasuo: still.. is having a start-button the a unix idea?
[03:28] <eyalw_> fuzzy_logic: i own a macbook, i have a ndiswrapper driver, a laptop with no wireless is worth nothing... i dont know what to do
[03:28] <LjL> kynes, if it's not yet installed - and you merely extracted the .tar - typing "xulrunner --whatever" cannot work. perhaps (just guessing) you want to type "./xulrunner --whatever" while inside the directory where you extracted the tar
[03:29] <LjL> ferronica: no idea honestly, i use KTorrent (and not very often)
[03:29] <Yasuo> fuzzy_logic, </ironic>
[03:29] <fuzzy_logic> eyalw_: of course.. im not suggesting you should give up on wireless..
[03:29] <Jowi> ferronica, run "gconf-editor" and go to /apps/gnome-btdownload/settings. there you can set the min and max port.
[03:29] <slavik> in synaptic, I select packages to 'freeze' but they don't get frozen
[03:29] <LjL> kynes, can you give me a link to the tarball you're using?
[03:29] <ferronica> LjL: ok thanx :)
[03:29] <fuzzy_logic> eyalw_: what type of wireless card do you have?
[03:29] <fuzzy_logic> Yasuo: :)
[03:29] <aoirthoir> howdy does anyone remember the name of the other mozilla based web browser besides firefox..something like flint or something?
[03:29] <ferronica> Jowi: ok
[03:29] <LjL> !browsers | aoirthoir
[03:29] <ubotu> aoirthoir: Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[03:30] <LjL> epiphany is Gecko based - don't know about others
[03:30] <Serim> I'm trying to set up ubuntu on my laptop I can ping websites but firefox doesn't connect to them
[03:30] <SlimeyPete> Galeon? Flock?
[03:30] <aoirthoir> lgl unfortunately i need this version on a windows machine..it is anotherahah
[03:30] <kynes> LjL : tried "./xulrunner --register-global" too.. it says "/xulrunner --register-global ./run-mozilla.sh: 424: ./xulrunner-bin: not found
[03:30] <barki> DNS problem?
[03:30] <aoirthoir> FLOCK thats its..thanks SlimeyPete
[03:30] <SlimeyPete> np
[03:30] <aoirthoir> i have to run this on windows unfortunately..trying to get us out of a legacy app.
[03:30] <eyalw_> fuzzy_logic: its the one macbook 2 has, Athros AR5008
[03:30] <aoirthoir> brb
[03:30] <jontec> is there a command to find out the os? like a system information command or something?
[03:30] <kynes> LjL : ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/xulrunner/releases/<IP_ADDRESS>/contrib/linux-i686
[03:31] <LjL> kynes: let me try it
[03:31] <arejay> uname -a :)
[03:31] <eyalw_> fuzzy_logic: Network controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. Unknown device 0024 (rev 01)
[03:31] <kynes> LjL : ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/xulrunner/releases/<IP_ADDRESS>/contrib/linux-i686/xulrunner-<IP_ADDRESS>.en-US.linux-i686.tar.gz
[03:31] <LjL> jontec: to find out what?
[03:31] <fuzzy_logic> eyalw_: sec
[03:31] <jontec> LjL: the distro of linux
[03:31] <michaelpo> how do i export emails from evolution to thunderbird?
[03:31] <LjL> jontec:  lsb_release -a
[03:32] <eyalw_> fuzzy_logic: god, if someone can solve this problem... i will thank him forever. i'm on this for a week now
[03:32] <Serim> I don't think its DNS as I wouldn't get Pings (v6.10)
[03:32] <LjL> kynes: uhm, not sure, when i extracted the tarball, went into the xulrunner directory and then typed  ./xulrunner --register-globals , it just worked (well, i mean, it gave no errors)
[03:33] <fuzzy_logic> eyalw_: did you try this already: http://www.macshadows.com/forums/index.php?s=425ecd4d2e1b517f2b899f72522f184b&showtopic=7420&pid=55187&st=20&#
[03:33] <chell> quodlibet looks good
[03:34] <chell> very simple interface i like that
[03:34] <Jubei> guys I'm trying to build a module and I get "/bin/sh: scripts/genksyms/genksyms: No such file or directory" what could it be?
[03:34] <rambo3> bad script
[03:34] <kynes> LjL : I have the "xulrunner-bin" file.. but the system says it can't find it
[03:34] <Jowi> Jubei, it is incomplete (the file/directory is missing)
[03:35] <WaxyFresh> aptitude says i have 371 broken packages,,,,will fre 471mbs.......how can i fix this?
[03:35] <Jubei> Jowi: yeh but ..what is missing?:)
[03:35] <sogen> anyone know some good psx emulator for ubuntu ?
[03:35] <eyalw_> fuzzy_logic: no i didnt, i'm not sure what is it spose to do?
[03:35] <LjL> kynes, indeed, it's in the same directory as "xulrunner"...
[03:35] <MatthewV> WaxyFresh, what did you do that made those 371 packages broken?
[03:35] <Jowi> Jubei, scripts/genksyms/genksyms :) ask the developer
[03:35] <Jubei> :D
[03:35] <rambo3> sogen google mythgame wiki
[03:35] <WaxyFresh> sogen: i think theres one in the repos,enalble multi verse and check under games
[03:36] <kynes> LjL : yes.. I see the file.. but the system can't find! so absurf
[03:36] <slavik> how do I force a version of a package, so that it is not upgraded?
[03:36] <fuzzy_logic> don't know.. but the topic starter has the same problem as you, and this is a solution given by someone, not sure if it works dough
[03:36] <WaxyFresh> MatthewV: i dont know i was "playing" with aptitude and selected the kubuntu-base or whatever then exited out i didint make any changes that i know of
[03:36] <slavik> is it lock version option in synaptic?
[03:36] <derrin> Sorry guys... I'm a noobie.  I want to install thunderbird and uninstall evolution.  What do i have to do?
[03:37] <LjL> kynes, edit "run-mozilla.sh", and go to line 424. add the command "pwd" before the "moz_run_program" line
[03:37] <chell> open up synaptic
[03:37] <WaxyFresh> MatthewV: but then again i might of by accident
[03:37] <chell> search for evolution
[03:37] <UbuntuGuy> Hi again.  Still looking for help with installing a font.  I grabbed a .ttf from openfontlibrary.org, dropped it in my .fonts directory, ran fc-cache .fonts (seemed to work), but the font does not show up in any apps.  Any help would be most welcome
[03:37] <chell> and remove all installed packages related to evolution
[03:37] <slavik> derrin: no need to uninstall evolutiion, just install thunderbird through synaptic
[03:37] <chell> then search for mozilla-thunderbird and install it
[03:37] <LjL> kynes: then try again ./xulrunner --register-globals -- it should mention a directory name. is that the correct directory? (i.e. the one you extracted the tarball to, and the directory you're currently in)
[03:37] <chell> well, maybe he likes the one app per task philosophy behind ubuntu and wants to stick to it
[03:38] <MatthewV> WaxyFresh, hmm.. the usual way to fix broken packages would be a sudo apt-get -f install, but that'll probably remove all those packages - which'd be a huge annoyance
[03:38] <ootiny00> I am trying to installe ubuntu.  When it tells me it is going to partition my hard drive, how can I tell it is not going to delete something that I want?
[03:38] <MatthewV> WaxyFresh, you cant reinstall that package you were fiddling with?
[03:38] <zany_zebra> If i have installed libdvdcss should anymedia playe play dvds? or do I need plugins?
[03:38] <Jowi> chell, make sure to install the plugins and extensions. then in quodlibet go to Music -> plugins to activate a few.makes quod libet really rock. :)
[03:38] <chell> lol
[03:38] <WaxyFresh> MatthewV: i dont think so,not even sure which one it was
[03:38] <derrin> slavik - i tried to install thunderbird but it wouldn't let me - i figured there was a compatibility problem with evolution?
[03:38] <chell> I set it to monitor the music folder inside my home directory
[03:38] <zany_zebra> ootiny00: what version of ubuntu?
[03:39] <LjL> ootiny00: well, if you don't select the "wipe entire drive" option, it won't (purposely) wipe it. you should still always have a backup before resizing partitions, though.
[03:39] <chell> in that folder I have several subfolders containing music
[03:39] <chell> it doesn't add them to the main interface
[03:39] <sipior> UbuntuGuy: any chance you don't have fontconfig installed?
[03:39] <sipior> UbuntuGuy: pretty unlikely, but...
[03:39] <kynes> LjL : it is the correct directory.. I checked
[03:39] <v_> /sc
[03:40] <WaxyFresh> MatthewV: wish the devs would of put a history into aptitude
[03:40] <v_> /sc
[03:40] <slavik> derrin: unlikely, what was the error?
[03:40] <v_> gar
[03:40] <UbuntuGuy> sipior: I've got fontconfig
[03:40] <cimen> merhaba
[03:40] <cimen> trk varm aranzda
[03:40] <png> var
[03:40] <kynes> LjL : I'm very confused here.. I have an "xulrunner-bin" but it says I don't have
[03:41] <MatthewV> WaxyFresh, i think synaptic has one, but that wouldn't help you ;) yeh i'm sorry but i'm not really sure what i'd do besides a reinstall
[03:41] <WaxyFresh> MatthewV: thanks for trying
[03:41] <cimen> merhaba
[03:41] <sipior> UbuntuGuy: and do you have a fonts.cache-1 file in .fonts?
[03:41] <cimen> png
[03:41] <rambo3> !tr | cimen
[03:41] <ubotu> cimen: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[03:41] <cimen> yes
[03:41] <Snuke> Anybody having problem with Festy and NVIDIA after kernel update from 2.6.20-12 to 2.6.20-13?
[03:41] <koper> I'm using Ubuntu Edgy 64-bit. Anyone know how to create a private torrent? (azureus won't start)
[03:41] <cimen> tr
[03:41] <UbuntuGuy> sipior: yup. weirdly, fc-list shows my new font, but I can't access it from any applications
[03:41] <Pici> cimen: /join #ubuntu-tr
[03:41] <MatthewV> WaxyFresh, no probs :) just sorry i couldnt do more
[03:42] <slavik> "Lock Version" in synaptic does not seem to work :(
[03:42] <sipior> UbuntuGuy: i hate to suggest restarting gnome, but i'm a bit baffled
[03:42] <Pici> Snuke: #ubuntu+1 for fiesty support :)
[03:42] <Snuke> Oh, Thank You
[03:42] <sipior> UbuntuGuy: or have you tried that already?
[03:42] <sipior> UbuntuGuy: also, does fonts.cache-1 list the font you installed?
[03:43] <jaggz-> my arm length is like 28" from shoulder to crook of the thumb and 1st finger..  but in these shirt measurements they show the "sleeve" measurement is around 32" or 35" .. what am I supposed to be measuring?
[03:43] <MatthewV> WaxyFresh, maybe it was package kubuntu-desktop?
[03:43] <UbuntuGuy> sipior: fonts-cache lists my new font ok
[03:43] <sipior> UbuntuGuy: and a gnome restart is no good?
[03:44] <derrin> slavik - I went away and put thunderbird in again via synaptic.  No sign of it on my applications>>nternet   though?
[03:44] <Underlin3> how do I install from a .bin file?:S
[03:44] <cimen> thanks ubotu
[03:44] <cimen> thanks ubotu
[03:44] <jrib> Underlin3: what are you trying to install?
[03:44] <Underlin3> java
[03:45] <slavik> derrin: edit the menu layour and make sure that thunderbird is checked to be displayed ...
[03:45] <UbuntuGuy> sipior hang on, brb
[03:45] <derrin> thanks slavik... will try now...
[03:45] <WaxyFresh> MatthewV: possible but im not sure,sudo apt-get -f install did nothing 0 packages to instll/remove/upgrade
[03:45] <chell> how do i replace the default thunderbird logo (the envelope) with the official one (with the bird on it)?
[03:46] <fuzzy_logic> Underlin3: just use synaptic package manager and search for java.. no need for a bin file :)
[03:46] <Underlin3> ahh ok:P
[03:46] <MatthewV> WaxyFresh, so you're sure you still have broken packages then?
[03:46] <Underlin3> silly me:P
[03:46] <WaxyFresh> why do some people comile ther own kernal?
[03:46] <slavik> arg, this is bs, synaptic does not want to lock 2 packages :(
[03:46] <Underlin3> thanks
[03:46] <WaxyFresh> MatthewV: brb
[03:47] <slavik> WaxyFresh: to get different drivers working (or to test them) or maybe they want to compile in all the drivers they need and nothing else
[03:47] <ootiny00> LjL  it is 6.10
[03:48] <erikja> !skype
[03:48] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[03:48] <WaxyFresh> MatthewV: acording to aptitude i do
[03:48] <ootiny00> LjL.. can I boot off of my 2 gb flash drive and use it to run ubuntu?
[03:48] <slavik> is there a way to disallow any editing of the toolbars in gnome?
[03:48] <WaxyFresh> MatthewV: whats the apt-get to reinstall aptitude?
[03:48] <MatthewV> WaxyFresh, hmm... usually that'd show up in other package managers too
[03:48] <chell> I've replaced totem with gxine, however it can't play apple film trailers. how do I fix this? extracodecs is installed
[03:49] <jaychun>
[03:49] <sipior>
[03:49] <MatthewV> WaxyFresh, i could probably work it out but that doesnt sound like a good idea ;) do you have any other package managers like synaptic or kynaptic or whatever the kde one is called (i use gnome sry)
[03:50] <WaxyFresh> MatthewV: nope nothing the kde one is called adapt i belive
[03:50] <derrin> slavik:  No sign of it thunderbird on Alacarte menu editor??  I had been in preferencs: menus and toolbars.  I'm lost!!
[03:50] <slavik> WaxyFresh: it's 'adept' :)
[03:50] <UbuntuGuy> sipior: I restarted gnome and now I see it!  Thanks for your help (wish it was easier though)
[03:51] <slavik> derrin: can you run thunderbird from terminal?
[03:51] <sipior> UbuntuGuy: not sure why you have to restart gnome (generally that's not required). glad it works for you though
[03:51] <MatthewV> WaxyFresh, and that doesnt show anything.. or isnt isntalleD?
[03:51] <docvegan> where do i find/edit the system init scripts
[03:51] <derrin> slavik:  sorry mate... how do i do that?
[03:51] <sipior> docvegan: /etc/init.d/
[03:51] <WaxyFresh> MatthewV: not installed
[03:52] <slavik> derrin: open a terminal (apps -> accessories -> terminal
[03:52] <sipior> docvegan: also /etc/event.d, depending on what you're doing
[03:52] <WaxyFresh> MatthewV: so reinstalling aptitude wont work?
[03:52] <derrin> slavik:  yup!  open...
[03:52] <slavik> then type 'thunderbird' and press enter
[03:52] <Jowi> "mozilla-thunderbird"
[03:53] <WaxyFresh> !adept
[03:53] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[03:53] <derrin> it says bash: thundrbird: command not found
[03:53] <docvegan> which file, i want to change xgamma
[03:53] <MatthewV> WaxyFresh, well.. i dont know.. does installing something through apt-get work (eg 'sudo apt-get install <package>')
[03:53] <slavik> derrin: that means the menu stuff was not updated ... try logging out and then abck in ...
[03:53] <slavik> back*
[03:53] <dyrne> slavik: could you maybe chown root the .gnome2/panel2.d  and make it only readable to  others?
[03:53] <WaxyFresh> MatthewV: yupo
[03:54] <slavik> dyrne: will that not allow any editing though?
[03:54] <derrin> slavik:  will do... thanks so much for this... back later...
[03:54] <slavik> derrin: np
[03:54] <LamerC> Does the main Ubunut CD already come with development packages (GCC/make/GTK dev/etc).
[03:54] <sipior> docvegan: then you want the X server startup scripts, in /etc/X11/Xsession.d
[03:54] <plan_b> i need to use linuxthreads instead of NPTL, i search for 30 minutes and found nothing, anybody familiar with that ?
[03:54] <MatthewV> WaxyFresh, that supposed to mean yes ? ;)
[03:54] <Jowi> LamerC, yes, but you need to install them
[03:54] <dyrne> slavik: well they have to write to config file to edit. i dont know if that is the config file though id assume so
[03:54] <chell> no
[03:55] <slavik> dyrne: I want to go as far as to empty out all context menus within gnome ...
[03:55] <WaxyFresh> MatthewV: opps,yes it does
[03:55] <fuzzy_logic> anyone use xchat over here?
[03:55] <Jowi> LamerC, the package is called "build-essential"
[03:55] <WaxyFresh> fuzzy_logic: why?
[03:55] <LamerC> Also, I know it is gnome based, but does it include the QT libraries.
[03:55] <fuzzy_logic> WaxyFresh: i need to know something about it :)
[03:55] <docvegan> sipior which one would that be
[03:55] <slavik> dyrne: this is for a kiosk type system where I only want a windows list ...
[03:56] <kynes> I can install "xulrunner" from synaptic, but not from tar.. I tried the same version with synaptic's xulrunner.. but can't install
[03:56] <WaxyFresh> fuzzy_logic: whats that?
[03:56] <Jowi> LamerC, gtk and qt dev libs you need to install manually I think
[03:56] <MatthewV> WaxyFresh, well it doesnt sound like something is wrong apart from aptitude
[03:56] <sipior> docvegan: don't know. have a look
[03:56] <derrin> slaivik:  I am currently coping moodle files through SSH onto my server.  I should probably wait before I log out?
[03:56] <LamerC> Okay.  And finally, I have a CD with some .deb packages scattered in various directories.  Can Synapt/apt scan the CD and catalog the packages?
[03:56] <MatthewV> WaxyFresh, a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure aptitude' will reconfigure aptitude.. but i'm just not sure if thats a good idea
[03:56] <WaxyFresh> MatthewV: thats why i think i should reinstall aptitude useing apt-get
[03:56] <sipior> docvegan: you can probably place the instruction anywhere, but i would just make a new "local" file for my own modificatiosn
[03:56] <sipior> modifications
[03:57] <docvegan> i can just make a new file and it will load automatically ?
[03:57] <docvegan> < knows almost nothing about linux
[03:57] <WaxyFresh> MatthewV: i dont have much to loose
[03:57] <MatthewV> WaxyFresh, well.. no.. good point ;)
[03:57] <sipior> docvegan: yep, just make the filename something like 99local and add it to that
[03:57] <fuzzy_logic> WaxyFresh: is it possible to see a userlist in a sidebar like in most of other irc clients?
[03:57] <docvegan> oh neat
[03:58] <sipior> docvegan: also make sure the file permissions match the files that are already there
[03:58] <LjL> ootiny00: i'm not sure of the specifics but yes, you can
[03:58] <docvegan> let me see if i can figure that part out
[03:58] <MatthewV> fuzzy_logic, you're probably using xchat-gnome
[03:58] <LjL> ootiny00: you *should* probably be able to just direct the installer to install on /dev/sda (or whatever the flash drive is called), and then boot like it were a normal hard drive (if the BIOS is set up to boot from USB)
[03:58] <MatthewV> fuzzy_logic, i'd recommend switching to xchat (the normal one)
[03:59] <Sebol> bb
[03:59] <WaxyFresh> MatthewV: E:\home\r00t\.aptitude/conifig unable to open  for writing permission denied
[03:59] <fuzzy_logic> no.. i didn't choose that one since i was planning to swich to kde back then
[03:59] <fuzzy_logic> but wait.. maybe i made a mistake.. i'll take a look.. sec
[03:59] <MatthewV> WaxyFresh, well.. maybe thats the problem.. very sorry but i gtg now
[03:59] <WaxyFresh> MatthewV: aha,so now what?
[03:59] <docvegan> sipior how do i change permissions
[03:59] <WaxyFresh> MatthewV: ok thanks
[03:59] <kynes> fuzzy-logic : actually you can see the list if you drag the line that's at the right of the main window.. it's not seen at first, but you'll recognize it
[03:59] <fuzzy_logic> WaxyFresh: its just the normal xchat
[04:00] <MatthewV> WaxyFresh, hope someone else can help.. bye
[04:00] <WaxyFresh> fuzzy_logic: im not sure i had the same problem thats why i switched
[04:00] <fuzzy_logic> kynes: thanks it worked
[04:00] <WaxyFresh> anyone know how to get a user list displayed in xchat?
[04:00] <F00BaR`> hey
[04:00] <fuzzy_logic> WaxyFresh: do the thing kynes said..
[04:00] <F00BaR`> does anyone here use VHCS
[04:00] <Underlin3> is it possible to get Steam on Linux?
 fuzzy-logic : actually you can see the list if you drag the line that's at the right of the main window.. it's not seen at first, but you'll recognize it
[04:01] <rambo3> WaxyFresh, its there just expend it in right
[04:01] <WaxyFresh> aptitude says: E:\home\r00t\.aptitude/conifig unable to open  for writing permission denied how do i fix this?
[04:01] <enderxim> I'm having troubing with xfburn. It will not recognize my dvd-r as such, and won't let me, in preferences, select that it can burn to dvd, only cd. Any suggestions to fix this?
[04:01] <WaxyFresh> fuzzy_logic: did you see what rambo3 said?
[04:01] <fuzzy_logic> WaxyFresh: what do you mean? who is rambo3?
[04:01] <sipior> docvegan: chmod a+rx <file>, for example. consult the chmod man page for a full explanation
[04:01] <docvegan> what is the best linux irc client
[04:02] <Pici> !irc | docvegan
[04:02] <ubotu> docvegan: irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[04:02] <WaxyFresh> fuzzy_logic: look a couple lines up
[04:02] <slavik> looks like kiosktool is nice ...
[04:02] <docvegan> i'm using xirc and i think it sucks
[04:02] <Pici> docvegan: If you're used to using mirc on windows, then xchat will probably be the ebst fit.
[04:02] <sipior> docvegan: xchat ain't bad for beginners
[04:02] <docvegan> its ok
[04:02] <docvegan> : ]
[04:02] <sipior> docvegan: or anyone else for that matter
[04:02] <WaxyFresh> fuzzy_logic: look a couple lines up: rambo3> WaxyFresh, its there just expend it in right
[04:02] <WaxyFresh> fuzzy_logic: aboute your user list
[04:03] <docvegan> < frustrated with linux learning curve
[04:03] <Underlin3> is it possible to install steam?
[04:04] <michaelpo> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-export-your-mails-from-evolution-to-thunderbird.html
[04:04] <fuzzy_logic> WaxyFresh: i know :)
[04:04] <OkinawaInstruct1> has anyone ever got a raid card to work using ubuntu?
[04:05] <drewzf> Is there any way to easily configure dns servers?
[04:05] <drewzf> I just need to bind a single domain, I have 2 bind9 servers set up
[04:05] <drewzf> And my dns is somewhat correct
[04:05] <drewzf> one of my name servers doesn't respond, one is lame...
[04:05] <LamerC> I've used IRC with Gaim on Windows, but don't like the interface much.  I've tested the 2.0 beta and it looks a little better.
[04:06] <sipior> drewzf: it's not terribly hard, but there are no guis or the like, to my knowledge.
[04:06] <drewzf> sipior: It's really confusing.
[04:06] <Underlin3> I got Cedega to use games, but I cant install a .msi file..can someone help me?
[04:07] <Ace2016> Hi al
[04:07] <Ace2016> i need help
[04:07] <Ace2016> a prelink isn't stopping
[04:07] <sipior> drewzf: yeah, that's the dns :) have you tried looking at the ldp's DNS HOWTO?
[04:07] <Ace2016> its been running for an HOUR!!!!!
[04:07] <Ace2016> and its still going
[04:07] <Ace2016> oh wait it just stopped
[04:07] <Ace2016> lol
[04:07] <WaxyFresh> aptitude says: E:\home\r00t\.aptitude/conifig unable to open  for writing permission denied how do i fix this?
[04:07] <Ace2016> ha ha
[04:07] <docvegan> sipior can you repaste that
[04:07] <Ace2016> why does a prelink take so long?
[04:08] <ppj1> Anyone running gaim-text?
[04:08] <jhaig> Ace2016: Next time you have a problem, just log in here and it will be solved in no time.  :-)
[04:08] <drewzf> By norrish and langfeldt?
[04:08] <Ace2016> i come here when its the last resort and it solves itself by the time i get in
[04:08] <sipior> drewzf: that's sounds right
[04:09] <fuzzy_logic> lol @ Ace2016
[04:09] <sipior> docvegan: what, about the file permissions? man chmod should have what you need
[04:09] <sipior> docvegan: so, chmod a+rx <file> will add write and execute for everyone
[04:09] <sipior> docvegan: for example
[04:09] <docvegan> ty
[04:10] <Ace2016> would chmod a+rx / -r make the root partition editable by everyone?
[04:11] <Psilocyde> can i get some help with a fresh install dual boot with xp?
[04:11] <sipior> Ace2016: no, you need w permission for that
[04:11] <docvegan> says not permitted
[04:11] <port101> sudo
[04:11] <jrib> Ace2016: do not do that
[04:11] <davisc> Psilocyde: What's the problem?
[04:11] <sipior> docvegan: you will need to be root to change system file permissions
[04:11] <jrib> !sudo > Ace2016    (Ace2016, see the private message from ubotu)
[04:12] <docvegan> how do i be root
[04:12] <port101> sudo + command
[04:12] <sipior> docvegan: so "sudo chmod ..."
[04:12] <Psilocyde> well i gots things all messed up with my ubuntu
[04:12] <jrib> Ace2016: when you need to edit something you use sudo, see ubotu's message
[04:12] <docvegan> oh neat
[04:12] <jrib> !sudo > docvegan    (docvegan, see the private message from ubotu)
[04:12] <Psilocyde> the package managers dont work
[04:12] <fuzzy_logic> !sudo > fuzzy_logic
[04:12] <Psilocyde> add remove broke
[04:12] <docvegan> so root is like the override command
[04:12] <docvegan> oops i mean sudo
[04:12] <sipior> docvegan: right
[04:12] <davisc> Psilocyde: What version of Ubuntu? And can you get into X?
[04:12] <docvegan> very cool ty
[04:13] <sipior> docvegan: yep, handy command to know
[04:13] <jpjacobs> docvegan, no, it gives you temporarely root-rights to (depending on how it is configured) selected programs
[04:13] <Psilocyde> daxisc im running most recent edgy
[04:13] <Psilocyde> yes i can get into x
[04:13] <LamerC> What is the difference between su and sudo?
[04:13] <Shish> how can I do software suspend from the command line?
[04:14] <davisc> LamerC: With su, you'll actually get a root shell
[04:14] <dreadknought> ok, so i'm trying to install ubuntu from the installation cd sent to me from canonical, but i have a ati radeon 8500 LE, 640x480 resolution is the only option
[04:14] <Shish> LamerC: su requires root password, sudo uses the users's
[04:14] <sipior> jpjacobs: docvegan: close enough. it overrides ones normal permissions, no need to confuse with details :-)
[04:14] <WaxyFresh> how do i change permissions on E:\home\r00t\.aptitude to reead write ex?
[04:14] <um_whoa> chmod: 1 = execute 2=write 3=write and execute 4=read 5= read and execute 6= read and write 7= read and write and execute
[04:14] <um_whoa> ooops, sorry about that
[04:14] <dreadknought> which puts the most important parts of the installation window off the screen
[04:14] <davisc> Psilocyde: What do you usually use? aptitute?
[04:14] <fuzzy_logic> LamerC: http://forums.macosxhints.com/archive/index.php/t-4534.html
[04:14] <Suurorca> LamerC: su = switch user, you can log in as any user with it. if none is given, it defaults to root
[04:15] <F00BaR`> does anyone here use VHCS
[04:15] <F00BaR`> does anyone here use VHCS
[04:15] <Psilocyde> im like a 4 day nOObuntu
[04:15] <F00BaR`> oops
[04:15] <Psilocyde> i dont know what that is davisc
[04:15] <RoundyT1> Psilocyde, You're in for a REAL treat -- Ubuntu OWNS (im not like day 20
[04:15] <davisc> Psilocyde: What are you trying to do?
[04:16] <Psilocyde> right on RoundyT!
[04:16] <jay_> Where do u change the Gtk theme?
[04:16] <jay_> or rather how?
[04:16] <WaxyFresh> um_whoa: so what would the ful comand be for read write execute? sudo chmod /folder/file ???????
[04:16] <Shish> jay_: from memory, system -> preferences -> theme
[04:16] <NekoKun_> How can I install a MSI in ubuntu?
[04:16] <docvegan> still won't let me save
[04:16] <Shish> chmod 777 /folder/folder/file
[04:17] <um_whoa> waxy, for user group or other? for just the user it would be chmod 700 file
[04:17] <Psilocyde> the defualt package manager is busted and the add/remove feature is ditto
[04:17] <jay_> That doesn't change the color behind Applications,Places,System... I want to change the color behind that
[04:17] <sipior> docvegan: what exactly you doing there?
[04:17] <docvegan> i want to make an xgamma command be part of startup so i can alter my screen appearance
[04:17] <sipior> docvegan: i mean, what commands were you typing?
[04:17] <WaxyFresh> um_whoa: aptitude needs to acsess it not i.
[04:18] <docvegan> sudo chmod a+rx /etc/X11/Xsession.d
[04:18] <um_whoa> try the chmod 700 file
[04:18] <Dell-Net> jay_: preferences on the panel ?
[04:18] <Psilocyde> so i guess i want to fix those things first
[04:18] <mweichert> hello!
[04:18] <LjL> i need a PHP web page to run some commands as root. what should i setuid, or what's a safe way to achieve that anyway?
[04:18] <mweichert> when preseeding Feisty Fawn, are there any wireless options I can configure?
[04:19] <variant> a friend of mine has a laptop which seems to have a strange drive issue (dvd/cdrw) it is not visible in wxp or ubuntu after ubuntu installation but live cd's still boot up no problem and the bios can see the drive. anyone know what might cause that?
[04:19] <sipior> docvegan: sorry doc, i just used "a+rx" as an example. if you want to modify a flle, easiest just to do "sudo gedit <file>", or whatever your editor is
[04:19] <davisc> LjL: Oooh.. need to be careful there. Really not a great idea
[04:19] <davisc> kothz: I was thinking the same thing :-)
[04:19] <docvegan> oh : )
[04:19] <variant> LjL: #ubuntu-offtopic ? :)#
[04:19] <LjL> davisc: i realize it isn't, that's why i'm asking for the best way to do it
[04:19] <sipior> docvegan: you don't want to change the file permissions for those files--i misunderstood what you were trying to accomplish
[04:19] <LjL> variant: well, maybe, but it's not offtopic is it
[04:20] <docvegan> lol
[04:20] <goundy> who play to poker3D?
[04:20] <zyth> LjL, can linux do jails? if so, run the whole httpd in one.
[04:20] <variant> LjL: seems to be to me
[04:20] <davisc> zyth: Yeah, you can run apache in a chroot
[04:20] <LjL> zyth: yikes... no, thanks :P besides, those commands need real root, the page needs to show certain hardware parameters
[04:20] <sipior> docvegan: in future though, use the "w" permission to write to files: chmod a+w <file> allows anyone to write to <file>. not recommended generally...
[04:20] <docvegan> how do i make a new file ?
[04:21] <variant> zyth: root jails are not effective security mesures.. they can be broken out of
[04:21] <docvegan> i know how to avoid messing up files so i am not worried about write permissions
[04:21] <um_whoa> touch file; will make a new one
[04:21] <zyth> variant, yes, but a suid process called by a web page would be more contained in one
[04:21] <sipior> docvegan: just save one with your editor. you might try gedit to start with
[04:21] <variant> zyth: a little
[04:21] <davisc> LjL: It is more of a security/PHP question. But I'd look at the problem and have PHP running as root as a *very* last resort
[04:21] <setuid> How do I get Ubuntu to "remember" my ssh challenge passwords?
[04:22] <docvegan> i created a file and then tried to save it and it says file not found
[04:22] <setuid> ssh-agent is running, but it never prompts me to remember any passwords or anything
[04:22] <variant> setuid: you dont, use key auth instead
[04:22] <um_whoa> what were you using vi, vim, emac ??
[04:22] <setuid> So every time I ssh to a remote host, I have to supply my ~/.ssh/id_dsa password every time
[04:22] <sipior> setuid: either keychain or seahorse will do that
[04:22] <setuid> variant, key auth?
[04:22] <wheat> ?
[04:22] <Psilocyde> davisc can we talk via private chat for a sec? im having a hard time following with all the other text in the room....
[04:22] <variant> setuid: sorry, nm i miss understood you
[04:22] <setuid> variant, You mean authorized_keys?
[04:22] <um_whoa> whoa, chinese
[04:23] <setuid> variant, I have authorized_keys set up, but it ignores them
[04:23] <Psilocyde> damn ADD
[04:23] <sipior> docvegan: try it from the command line: sudo gedit /etc/X11/Xsession.d/<filename>
[04:23] <setuid> sipior, keychain... ok, checking
[04:23] <davisc> docvegan: Did it give you an error when you saed the file?
[04:23] <Psilocyde> :)
[04:23] <davisc> Psilocyde: Sure
[04:23] <sipior> setuid: seahorse is nice if you're using gnome
[04:23] <Psilocyde> k
[04:23] <docvegan> thats what i originally did, gave an error after the gedit opened the imaginary file and i tried to save it
[04:23] <sipior> setuid: it will cache passphrases, assuming you've set up key-based authentication
[04:23] <Chest> guys, is there some way to have nautilus 'mount' a network connection so I can use it as a local mount in applications?
[04:24] <LjL> davisc: PHP running as root? sounds scary, wouldn't be making a couple of scripts to wrap around the commands i need (and setuid those) be better? (but then i think setuid doesn't work on shell scripts due to security issues)
[04:24] <sipior> docvegan: that's very strange then
[04:24] <docvegan> lol
[04:24] <davisc> LjL: It does really depend what you want to do
[04:24] <sipior> docvegan: you typed your password for sudo?
[04:25] <WaxyFresh> aptitude says: E:\home\r00t\.aptitude/conifig unable to open  for writing permission denied and i cant figure out how to chmod it,sudo chmod 700 /home/r00t/.aptitude didint work
[04:25] <docvegan> didnt ask me that time
[04:25] <WaxyFresh> why did i get a line thru that?
[04:25] <wheat> .
[04:25] <sipior> docvegan: okay, still it should have saved...
[04:25] <davisc> WaxyFresh: Is it a windows file system you're trying to write to?
[04:25] <WaxyFresh> davisc: nop
[04:25] <WaxyFresh> davisc: nope*
[04:25] <sipior> docvegan: try it again, maybe?
[04:25] <zyth> E:\
[04:25] <NekoKun> How can I install a MSI in ubuntu?
[04:25] <zyth> huh!?
[04:25] <WaxyFresh> !msi
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about msi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <Chest> NekoKun: wine
[04:26] <kabben> afternoon guys. can i be a be a pain in the rearend and ask a silly question ?
[04:26] <jay_> preferences on the panel changes the background of the panel
[04:26] <zyth> NekoKun, you can try installing the windows installer redistributable in wine, but I don't know if that'll work
[04:26] <setuid> sipior, Ok, keychain and seahorse are installed, how do I get them to hook into this?
[04:26] <WaxyFresh> kabben: sure
[04:26] <jay_> but NOT the background behind Applications,Places and System
[04:26] <LjL> davisc: i want a webpage to show the status of my network and some misc info. for that, it needs to run ethtool, and possibly other commands (ifconfig, lshw, lsusb) that will need root privileges to run. the exact commands will be, of course, hard-coded into the script - they can't be decided by the guy who opens the webpage
[04:26] <jay_> that still has a solid gray
[04:26] <docvegan> oh, linux is apparently case sensitive
[04:26] <docvegan> lol
[04:26] <kabben> i upgradede to 7.04 it all went wonderfully. but now networking is locked out on me (the internet mainly concerned with)... anything i should know about the new version ?
[04:26] <sipior> setuid: you need to start seahorse-agent in your gnome session startup
[04:27] <LjL> docvegan: every Unix is case sensitive (except MacOS X in one flavor of its filesystem...)
[04:27] <sipior> docvegan: yeah, it is that.
[04:27] <setuid> $ seahorse-agent
[04:27] <setuid> ** Message: Another GPG agent already running
[04:27] <docvegan> i'm an ms person (trying to migrate)
[04:27] <Tenshi> can anyone recommend a decently priced 4 channel SATA controller that will work well under linux.  Software or Hardware raid is okay, so long as onboard software and not the driver that is doing it.
[04:27] <LjL> !feisty > kabben    (kabben, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:27] <sipior> setuid: yeah, you'll need to add it to your gnome-session and then restart gnome
[04:27] <docvegan> so good to know
[04:27] <kothz> LjL: I would write sh wrappers around the commands, and get them producing exactly the data you need produced, and then have your normal, no-permission PHP scripts call those scripts
[04:27] <LjL> kabben: there is no new version, yet. 7.04 is still experimental.
[04:27] <SecrethX> someone know a really good HTML IDE? screem and quanta just dont work for me...
[04:27] <Tenshi> Raid 5 is preferred
[04:27] <docvegan> very appreciate the assistance sipior, thank you
[04:27] <sipior> setuid: should be able to google instructions from the seahorse page
[04:27] <Pindawen> I really want to get Ubuntu working on my Dell Laptop.. the only thing stopping me is getting wireless to work. (Dell 1390 chipset). Which ubuntu version should I start with for the easiest way to get wireless to work?
[04:27] <sipior> docvegan: no worries, good luck
[04:27] <zyth> SecrethX, NVU
[04:27] <setuid> Checking now
[04:28] <SecrethX> zyth, ill check that one out
[04:28] <Znuff> Hello. What's the name of the KDE Wizard that runs the first time you log in and allows you to set-up whatever you want?
[04:28] <LjL> kothz: yes, but how would those script produce the data? if i just setuid root the scripts, that doesn't work - and there's probably a good reason why it doesn't work, i assume
[04:28] <davisc> LjL: Would the machine be running other stuff?
[04:28] <WaxyFresh> Pindawen: type in !ndisdriver into irc
[04:28] <zyth> Znuff, if noone here knows, check #kubuntu
[04:28] <Pindawen> !ndisdriver
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndisdriver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:28] <kabben> yes, i know it is beta. i was wondering if there was something mystical i was missing as to why the networking just blocked in the way it did
[04:29] <WaxyFresh> Pindawen: ndisdriver is a way to port windows driver into linux
[04:29] <SecrethX> zyth, whats the full name of NVU?
[04:29] <MarkCh> hi. i dont think ubuntu detects my newly installed second network card.
[04:29] <Znuff> !ndiswrapper
[04:29] <LjL> !away > ^^CatTuX^^    (^^CatTuX^^, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:29] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:29] <zyth> SecrethX, sec
[04:29] <MarkCh> how can i let it know its there so i can share my net connection with windows?
[04:29] <SecrethX> zyth, nvm found it :)
[04:29] <LjL> davisc: yes, it would. it is.
[04:29] <LjL> davisc: keep in mind that the web server is *only* accessible from inside my LAN anyway
[04:29] <SecrethX> zyth, thanks, ill give this one a go
[04:29] <Pindawen> !ndiswrapper
[04:29] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:29] <setuid> sipior, Yep, that doesn't work... it works for the very first ssh session, and then when I close that and try to re-open another one to the same host, it just sits there... and sits there... and sits there.
[04:29] <zyth> SecrethX, np
[04:30] <setuid> Been 3 minutes already
[04:30] <LjL> davisc: (there's an iptables line that blocks anything from outside)
[04:30] <setuid> And ssh to ANY external host now... just sits there...
[04:30] <davisc> LjL: Oooh. Nasty. You'd probably be better allowing the webserver user run the commands you want rather than running PHP as root
[04:30] <Psilocyde> davisc you catch those pm's?
[04:30] <^^CatTuX^^> OOPPPPSSSSS Sorry, i didn't read that, okay i wont do that again...
[04:30] <davisc> Psilocyde: Nope
[04:30] <kabben> try looking up fwcutter information in google for wireless cards. i had it working in less than 10mins. and im not a linux person
[04:30] <SlimeyPete> MarkCh: does it show up when you do an lspci in a terminal?
[04:30] <Psilocyde> hmmm
[04:30] <Znuff> I had my card working out of the box :P
[04:30] <davisc> LjL: That said, I'm not a security expert
[04:30] <WaxyFresh> setuid: did your computer come with ubuntu built in or did you choose setuid as your name?
[04:31] <setuid> WaxyFresh, No and yes.
[04:31] <setuid> WaxyFresh, I've been setuid here on Linpeople/OPN/Freenode for about 10 years
[04:31] <MarkCh> SlimeyPete: i guess no. what would it be called there?
[04:31] <LjL> davisc: perhaps i'll just end up making a (root) cronjob that does the checks periodically and stores the results into some files, and the webpage just fetches them... though i'd have liked to avoid that
[04:31] <MarkCh> its a dlink pci nic ethernet adapter.
[04:31] <davisc> Psilocyde: You need to register your nick with NickServ to send PMs
[04:31] <setuid> sipior, So how do I fix this? ssh from gnome is now blocked.. after the first shell succeeds.
[04:32] <WaxyFresh> setuid: oh lol i thbouhgt it was some sort of OEM type name
[04:32] <davisc> LjL: I was thinking the same thing
[04:32] <SlimeyPete> MarkCh: depends on the brand. Something like "Ethernet controller: <brand name> <model name>!
[04:32] <SlimeyPete> "
[04:32] <Psilocyde> ah ok
[04:32] <WaxyFresh> aptitude says: E:\home\r00t\.aptitude/conifig unable to open  for writing permission denied and i cant figure out how to chmod it,sudo chmod 700 /home/r00t/.aptitude didint work
[04:33] <MarkCh> SlimeyPete: the old one doesnt too. anyway, i can see on the network settings dialog box that there is only 1 section for Wired Connection.
[04:33] <SlimeyPete> MarkCh: if it's compatible with the Linux kernel (google is your friend here!) then you should be able to load a module for it but that may involve some compilation. Otherwise, you could try using ndiswrapper, though personally I've never used that for a wired card.
[04:33] <MarkCh> maybe the eth1 modules are not loaded, i remember disabling it once on a script so that my pc may boot faster at that time though i forget where it is.
[04:33] <setuid> Why does removing gnupg-agent remove *ALL* of kde?
[04:33] <setuid> wtf.
[04:33] <wick2o> hello, im tring to create an install cd that i dont have to apt-get -y dist-upgrade after the install
[04:34] <MarkCh> it is compatible with the linux kernel btw, it says so in the box.
[04:34] <SlimeyPete> MarkCh:oh yeah... check /etc/network/interfaces
[04:34] <setuid> s/it/hit/
[04:34] <wick2o> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization  <-- ive followed this link and everything worked perfectly
[04:34] <SlimeyPete> MarkCh: if eth1 is commented out, uncomment it
[04:34] <SecrethX> zyth oh man, finally! thanks a lot man!
[04:34] <MarkCh> SlimeyPete: it says auto eth0
[04:34] <wick2o> then after the cd install i did an apt-get -ys dist-upgrade and loged what was going to be updated
[04:34] <sipior> setuid: not sure why it would block ssh, have you followed the instructions at the seahorse website?
[04:34] <MarkCh> do i need to type auto eth1 or something?
[04:34] <wick2o> manually downloaded the debs with wget from archive and replaced the old ones with the new ones
[04:34] <SlimeyPete> MarkCh: try copying the eht0 bits and replacing eht0 with eth1, yeah
[04:35] <zyth> SecrethX, np :)
[04:35] <wick2o> then tried my new install cd and all kinds of things seem to be broken in debconf
[04:35] <WaxyFresh> how do i unistall aptitude?
[04:35] <MarkCh> SlimeyPete: do i need to restart my PC after?
[04:35] <SlimeyPete> MarkCh: then do a "sudo ifdown ; sudo ifup" in a terminal
[04:35] <setuid> sipior, I never had to do this before, why do I have to do it now? What changed? ssh has always worked, unprompted, without any gui agent prompting me for passphrases or keys.
[04:35] <setuid> authorized_keys always did its job properly in the past
[04:36] <setuid> And now it doesn
[04:36] <SlimeyPete> MarkCh: sorry, "sudo ifdown eth1; sudo ifup eth1"
[04:36] <setuid> 't
[04:36] <SlimeyPete> MarkCh: no retsart requried
[04:36] <SlimeyPete> feck, my typing's bad today
[04:36] <sipior> setuid: you installed seahorse?
[04:36] <setuid> sipior, Yes
[04:36] <setuid> and keychain
[04:36] <WaxyFresh> whats the command to delete a folder?
[04:36] <bulmer> WaxyFresh: if you think you can not change a file via chmod, look into chattr if its using the extended features
[04:36] <kabben> anyone recommend a good alternative to Frontpage in Ubuntu. commercial applications are fine too
[04:36] <setuid> WaxyFresh, rm -Rf foldername
[04:36] <WaxyFresh> !chattr
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chattr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <MarkCh> SlimeyPete: ifdown: interface eth1 not configured
[04:36] <MarkCh> eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[04:36] <setuid> kabben, bluefish
[04:36] <kabben> thanks :p
[04:37] <sipior> setuid: that's what changed :-) seahorse will cache passphrases when set up properly, so that you needn't type them in each time. but if you weren't typing them in before, was your key without a passphrase?
[04:37] <SlimeyPete> MarkCh: don't worry about that - try just doing the ifup on its own. I just felt I should tell you to ifdown first just to be sure.
[04:37] <wick2o> anyone here remaster an install cd?
[04:37] <SlimeyPete> MarkCh: (ifdown takes the network interface down, ifup brings it back up with new settings)
[04:37] <setuid> sipior, Nope, key always had a challenge passphrase... but even now, WITH seahorse, it prompts me once, and that first ssh works, but all others after that just hang. Its been 8 minutes, and this ssh shell still hasn't connected
[04:37] <kabben> thanks much all. /bow out
[04:38] <MarkCh> SlimeyPete: oh, ok. i still dont see it in the network settings though, how do i know its detected?
[04:38] <ExTREm> hey, got 2 questions, im about to install ubuntu desktop version and i wanna get openssh going on it, is it hard to add/delete/change port when i install it?
[04:38] <sipior> setuid: what does ssh -v tell you?
[04:38] <setuid> All this gnome shit really has screwed up the way things work
[04:38] <SlimeyPete> MarkCh: type "ifconfig eth1" in a terminal
[04:38] <setuid> sipior, -vvv tells me that its waiting... and waiting... and waiting....
[04:38] <setuid> Hangs at:
[04:38] <setuid> debug2: service_accept: ssh-userauth
[04:38] <setuid> debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received
[04:38] <SlimeyPete> MarkCh: that should show an ip address and "UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST"
[04:39] <MarkCh> SlimeyPete: eth1: error fetching interface information: Device not found
[04:39] <SlimeyPete> amongst other things
[04:39] <sipior> setuid: well, it works well for me. is the seahorse daemon running?
[04:39] <setuid> sipior, it was, I killed it, now its defunct... zombied
[04:39] <setuid> So its probably bad code, broken somewhere i
[04:39] <linuxnooblah> hi im trying to get firefox to recognise to use a different app to run my audio streams but how do i put to the applications executable? :X
[04:39] <sipior> setuid: oh, that might be why your ssh hangs
[04:39] <SlimeyPete> MarkCh: hmm. Did ifup spit out any errors?
[04:39] <setuid> But I can't ssh to ANY host now, because seahorse screwed it up
[04:39] <sipior> setuid: the codes fine, i use it here
[04:39] <linuxnooblah> point*
[04:39] <setuid> Yeah, definitely not fine
[04:40] <setuid> it worked before I installed seahorse
[04:40] <michaelpo> http://www.howtoforge.com/importing_outlook_express_into_thunderbird_evolution
[04:40] <sipior> setuid: remove seahorse and that will fix things nicely
[04:40] <setuid> Yep, and then I just have to manually enter my 32-character passphrase every time I ssh into any host
[04:40] <setuid> lovely
[04:40] <sipior> setuid: life's hard
[04:40] <um_whoa>  hahha
[04:40] <setuid> Don't patronize me, newt.
[04:40] <MarkCh> SlimeyPete: i did remember seeing something like SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[04:41] <um_whoa> relax, setuid
[04:41] <fenrig> how can i configure oss to always use the same standard sound card, because I have two$
[04:41] <SlimeyPete> MarkCh: hmm. do an "ls /dev/eth*". Is eth1 listed?
[04:41] <sipior> setuid: you might simply have seahorse configured incorrectly. if it truly bothers you, you might invest a bit more time in straightening it out
[04:42] <setuid> sipior, I'll remove it, since it was never necessary before, and it won't work if I don't use a GUI anyway, which will be a problem if it blocks.
[04:42] <linuxnooblah> anyone?
[04:42] <fenrig> how do i configure oss?
[04:42] <thotz> are there any FEISTY users that use banshee? is there an icon missing or why have i got none?
[04:42] <SlimeyPete> anyone what?
[04:43] <linuxnooblah> hi im trying to get firefox to recognise to use a different app to run my audio streams but how do i put to the applications executable? :X
[04:43] <MarkCh> SlimeyPete: ls: /dev/eth*: No such file or directory
[04:43] <linuxnooblah> point*
[04:43] <fenrig> thotz: i am using banshee right now on my feisty and i dont have any problems
[04:43] <fenrig> with that
[04:43] <thotz> fenrig: icon in gnome menu there (the right?)
[04:44] <bulmer> MarkCh: what does "cat  /etc/iftab"  shows?
[04:44] <detectiveinspekt> where is the error log for apache2?
[04:44] <MarkCh> bulmer: eth0 mac 00:16:17:44:6d:6f arp 1
[04:44] <davisc> detectiveinspekt: /var/log/apache2
[04:44] <SlimeyPete> detectiveinspekt: /var/log/apache2/
[04:44] <bulmer> MarkCh: then you are using eth0
[04:45] <MarkCh> bulmer: ive installed a new network card. the new one doesnt seem to register.
[04:45] <fenrig> thotz: i had that when i just installed it, when i did a reboot the icon was fixed
[04:45] <SlimeyPete> MarkCh: thing is, if it's not showing in lspci then that suggests that Linux can't see it at all - it's not a driver issue or anything
[04:45] <bulmer> MarkCh: find it via lspci or lshw
[04:45] <thotz> fenrig: ok thanks, i'll try that
[04:46] <MarkCh> maybe i'll try putting it in another slot.
[04:46] <MarkCh> brb, and thanks bulmer and SlimeyPete.
[04:46] <SlimeyPete> MarkCh: might be your best bet.
[04:46] <fenrig> but how can i configure oss to use always that card as standard
[04:48] <bulmer> free ebook on building a kernel ---> http://www.kroah.com/lkn/
[04:48] <batusays> hi
[04:48] <FD-Spuddy> hi how are you - You are Speaking to Spuddys Bot
[04:49] <termitor> hello,  here is support for beta feisty ?
[04:49] <batusays> wich command can i use to remove the readonly to an folder, subfolders and files
[04:49] <batusays> ?
[04:49] <lzzc> Where, how [04:49] <sipior> batusays: chmod u+r <filename>
[04:50] <sipior> batusays: chmod u+w <filename>, rather
[04:50] <batusays> can be a folder
[04:50] <batusays> ?
[04:50] <sipior> batusays: sure
[04:50] <Dr3l3> i have a question why my grellm disappear drom desktop, in ps i see him he is started and on more question how can i see him in all desktop
[04:50] <RoundyT1> http://xkcd.com/c237.html
[04:50] <sipior> batusays: slightly different meaning in that case, but yes
[04:50] <batusays> whith subfolders and files
[04:50] <batusays> ?
[04:50] <sipior> batusays: then you'll need the recursive flag "-R"
[04:51] <Dr3l3> please people if someone know
[04:51] <batusays> really i want to remove the root permissions because i need that the users group use an modify thes files and folders
[04:51] <sipior> batusays: if you just want to change owner and group, use chown
[04:51] <linuxnooblah> whats a good utlity to give all details of current hardware in pc?
[04:52] <batusays> it will be
[04:52] <me-> hi is ubuntu able to write on fat32?
[04:52] <ArCHoNKoG> is anyone having problem with wireless card DWL-G650 on Feisty
[04:52] <um_whoa> what does the user group have to be batsuy?
[04:52] <batusays> sudo chown (folder) users
[04:52] <batusays> ?
[04:52] <batusays> i dont know the syntaxis
[04:52] <sipior> batusays: sudo chown -R "newused":"newgroup" <directory>
[04:53] <sipior> batusays: man chown will help you out
[04:53] <kane77> what download manager do you recommend?
[04:53] <setuid> sipior, Funny, I launch seahorse... Edit -> Preferences -> Passphrase Cache says "No SSH caching agent is running. Cannot load Secure Shell keys.", but seahorse-agent is running, and if I try to run it again, it says that its already running.
[04:53] <sipior> linuxnooblah: there's a "Hal hardware manager" or something like that. have a look
[04:53] <setuid> So wtf.
[04:53] <fuzzy_logic> kane77: for firefox?
[04:53] <batusays> let me see please if i need more help
[04:53] <kane77> fuzzy_logic, no for ubuntu
[04:53] <FringeJacket> ArCHoNKoG have you checked the ubuntu foums?
[04:54] <linuxnooblah> kane77: downlaod them all plugin for firefox
[04:54] <um_whoa> linuxnooblah: lspci -v or sudo lshw  -- used for seeing what devices have
[04:54] <um_whoa>   http://pciids.sourceforge.net/ useful  with other two
[04:54] <kane77> fuzzy_logic, something like flashget
[04:54] <FringeJacket> ArCHoNKoG they have info on broadcom... so they might have yours
[04:55] <fuzzy_logic> kane77: hang on..
[04:55] <sipior> setuid: hmm...i have a different menu: Encryption Preferences, might you be running an older version?
[04:55] <sipior> setuid: or a newer one, for that matter
[04:55] <setuid> 1.0-0ubuntu1
[04:55] <setuid> Latest available
[04:55] <sipior> setuid: this an up to date edgy install?
[04:55] <drew> anyone have link to all the 7.04 repositorys, or a copy of source.list somewhere
[04:55] <linuxnooblah> kane77: There is a plguin for firefox called downloadthemall that is quite like flashget
[04:55] <setuid> I'll re-update and see if there's a new er one
[04:56] <setuid> drew, netselect-apt
[04:56] <lzzc> Tip for improving ubuntu website appearance:  in firefox with adblock extension, right click and adblock all the images of the silly-insipid-smiley-shiny-happy-people.
[04:56] <kane77> linuxnooblah, thx
[04:56] <sipior> setuid: you might also try "keychain", which doesn't require a gui. that might be more to your liking
[04:56] <fuzzy_logic> kane77: i hear lot of people suggesting that wget is a good one
[04:56] <drew> setuid: what's that =\
[04:56] <setuid> sipior, I think that's the one that prompted me with a gui before
[04:56] <setuid> sipior, Because seahorse never did, and still doesn't
[04:56] <setuid> Maybe they directly conflict
[04:56] <RoundyT1> http://xkcd.com/c42.html
[04:56] <Dr3l3> i have a question why my grellm disappear drom desktop, in ps i see him he is started and on more question how can i see him in all desktop
[04:57] <sipior> setuid: they would definitely conflict
[04:57] <linuxnooblah> !cli
[04:57] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[04:57] <Dr3l3> nobody know
[04:58] <kynes> how can I change the system's jre version ?
[04:58] <kynes> I've both java 5 and 6 installed
[04:58] <kynes> but I want the system to use 6
[04:58] <kynes> how can I change that?
[04:58] <setuid> kynes, Make and break the symlink, or put it in your $PATH
[04:59] <setuid> In my case, its in /usr/local/*, so I just change the path to poitn to the right jvm
[04:59] <BuzBuz> help please - I did an apt-get upgrade, and while it installed all the updates, it said mysql5 had an error in it's update or restart
[04:59] <anvo> Hello! I need some help with grub!
[04:59] <F00BaR`> hey
[04:59] <setuid> BuzBuz, Why did you need to upgrade? What wasn't working?
[04:59] <kynes> setuid : how can I do it for my computer?
[05:00] <BuzBuz> setuid: it was just a regular update... apt-get update, and the apt-get upgrade..
[05:00] <linuxnooblah> whats command to login as root
[05:00] <setuid> kynes, See above, I just told you.
[05:00] <port101> su
[05:00] <setuid> BuzBuz, Right, but why did you need to do that if everything was working?
[05:00] <_muelli_> linuxnooblah: sudo -s
[05:00] <dyrne> kynes: the automatic way is update-alternatives --config java or something but ive never done it
[05:00] <BuzBuz> setuid: you know, to receive updates and security fixes... I do it once in a while...
[05:00] <gazuuu> sipior: podrias explicarme el chown
[05:01] <setuid> BuzBuz, Then you should selectively update, or use apt-listchanges, to make sure they apply to you and won't break things
[05:01] <gazuuu> sipior: can you explain the chown
[05:01] <setuid> A blind 'apt-get upgrade' is never a good idea
[05:01] <kynes> dyrne : great!
[05:01] <BuzBuz> setuid: why whould they break things ?
[05:01] <setuid> I wonder why almost nothing has been ported to AMD64 for Ubuntu or Debian
[05:01] <setuid> Sigh
[05:02] <linuxnooblah> can anyone help me install some decent drivers for my 7900gt
[05:02] <gazuuu> sudo chown -R "newused":"newgroup" <directory>  ???
[05:02] <BuzBuz> setuid: well, in any case, how can I fix the configuration of mysql 5 ?
[05:02] <bristol27> please help..  lost connection during an install of virtualbox and now I can't update  here is the message I'm getting:  E: The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[05:02] <bristol27> E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.
[05:03] <kippi> what is the best way to get dns to tell if a host is down, and if it is down to move on to another host?
[05:03] <bristol27> tried reinstalling..   can't do that either..
[05:03] <FringeJacket> bristol27 try the apt-get repair or fix thing
[05:03] <fenrig> how can i make sure alsa-oss always choose the same device for /dev/dsp
[05:04] <bristol27> thanks..  brb
[05:04] <linuxnooblah> can anyone help me install some decent drivers for my 7900gt
[05:04] <fenrig> because with every reboot alsa-oss changes everything
[05:04] <ferronica> how to clean HDD
[05:04] <fenrig> linuxnooblah: Nvidia?
[05:04] <linuxnooblah> ya
[05:04] <gazuuu> hi can help me with this
[05:04] <gazuuu> sudo chown -R "newused":"newgroup" <directory>
[05:04] <fenrig> linuxnooblah: just use the nvidia package
[05:04] <ferronica> something like removing unusable files or directory
[05:05] <gazuuu> whats mean newused:newgroup
[05:05] <MarkCh> hello. i have now been able to configure my new network card to work in ubuntu, however whenever i enable it, my internet connection coming from another card (eth0 which relies on dhcp) doesnt work anymore, what should i do to resolve this?
[05:05] <fenrig> linuxnooblah: i have the nvidia geforce 7900GT/club3d/...
[05:05] <bristol27> E: Invalid operation repair
[05:05] <b__> bristol27: "dpkg --remove --force-reinstreq virtualbox"
[05:05] <beni> since i'm using Ubuntu, every freaking Firefox update DESTROYS all my addons
[05:05] <fenrig> !nvidia
[05:05] <beni> why??
[05:05] <bristol27> thanks b_
[05:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:05] <variant> MarkCh: as a quick fix you can run dhclient eth0, that will re enable dhcp for hte maininternet faceing card while you resolve the other problem
[05:05] <infidel> what's the name of that qtracker like app for linux?
[05:06] <linuxnooblah> fenrig: do u run beryl ?
[05:06] <b__> np
[05:06] <fenrig> linuxnooblah: yeah, somethimes it works pretty good with my nvidia gpu
[05:06] <fenrig> linuxnooblah: such cards have enough power for such things
[05:07] <linuxnooblah> fenrig: yeh looks so cool i wanna have a play
[05:07] <syock> How do I save a variable in one shell script so that other script running in the same batch can retrieve it.
[05:07] <beni> since i'm using Ubuntu, every freaking Firefox update DESTROYS all my addons, WHY?
[05:08] <MorpheuS> HI
[05:08] <FD-Spuddy> hi how are you - You are Speaking to Spuddys Bot
[05:08] <bristol27> b_: what should I do after that?
[05:08] <tarzeau> syock: echo VAR=value >> /tmp/foo, then source or . /tmp/foo in the other script?
[05:08] <bommel> hello
[05:08] <bommel> i have a question
[05:09] <um_whoa> ask i
[05:09] <um_whoa> t
[05:09] <linuxtravis> Hello has anyone ever installed ubuntu on a Sun Fire V210??
[05:09] <MorpheuS> how to view nicklist on xchat-gnome ?
[05:09] <termitor> hello, where is testing/feisty ubuntu chan ,
[05:09] <termitor> ?
[05:09] <bommel> can anyone explain to me how i can see how version of linux ubunto i have intall
[05:09] <ferronica> Is there any way to remove unwanted stuffs from ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper
[05:09] <bommel> sory my inglish
[05:09] <mcsd> does anyone know of a more current live cd tutorial than this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization?
[05:09] <dyrne> bommel: cat /etc/*release is one way
[05:09] <yell0w> termitor, #ubuntu+1
[05:09] <syock> tarzeau: why does the suspend/resume routine do nothing of that?
[05:09] <MorpheuS> How to view nicklist on xchat-gnome ???????????????????????
[05:09] <MorpheuS> :D
[05:09] <mcsd> this tutorial says it needs a Hoary version
[05:10] <plato_> bommel if you have the cd it should tell you in the docs when you start up your browser
[05:10] <tarzeau> syock: i don't know. why should it?
[05:10] <Pici> bommel: lsb_release -a
[05:10] <gazuuu> sudo chown -R "newused":"newgroup" <directory>
[05:10] <fenrig> !alsa-oss
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsa-oss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <beni> since i'm using Ubuntu, every freaking Firefox update DESTROYS all my addons, WHY?
[05:10] <fenrig> !oss
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <fenrig> !alsa
[05:10] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:10] <bommel> ok
[05:10] <bommel> tanks
[05:10] <MarkCh> variant: thanks. i actually made it work now by disabling eth1 then reenabling it again.
[05:10] <linuxnooblah> !players
[05:10] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).   You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:12] <um_whoa> !language
[05:12] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:12] <Pici> !language
[05:12] <tarzeau> beni: because mozilla software sucks
[05:12] <bommel> i only speak portuguese
[05:12] <nedge> sorry...little pissed
[05:12] <yell0w> beni, it's dependent on your extensions
[05:12] <beni> :]
[05:13] <beni> yell0w: they are all gone
[05:13] <bommel> i understand some english
[05:13] <nedge> been working on this for hours and have made like NO headroom
[05:13] <bommel> bue only the basic
[05:13] <FringeJacket> bommel that wasn't to you
[05:13] <beni> yell0w: the whole extension thing doenst work right
[05:13] <nedge> it's driving me nuts
[05:13] <bommel> ok
[05:13] <yell0w> beni, my extensions stay
[05:13] <um_whoa> nedge: welcome the wonderful world of *nix
[05:13] <yell0w> nedge, what's the problem ?
[05:13] <bommel> as anyone have messenger and can teach me the basics of the linux
[05:13] <pirea> um_whoa: You forgot the hand movements and choir of boys, introduction is key. :\
[05:14] <um_whoa> hahah, yeah
[05:14] <nedge> yell0w good question ;), if I knew were things were breaking I could probably fix them better.
[05:14] <kuwanger> Hello.  Is there a way to use apt-get to get seamonkey now, will it be available in Feisty, or should I take another approach to getting seamonkey?
[05:14] <plato_> bommel try this https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/linux-basics.html
[05:14] <syock> does ubuntu prepare .bash_logout? I`m wondering where this conf came from
[05:15] <nedge> like I've followed the server docs for setting up an NTP server, but when I try to have my clients connect to it it doesn't work
[05:15] <nedge> that is the one I'm working on right now...
[05:15] <Soliko> any one know where to add script when I am login throw ssh to ubuntu?
[05:15] <KalleDK> !pastebin
[05:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:16] <pirea> kuwanger: It will be available starting in Feisty. You can grab Edgy/Dapper packages from GetDeb.net.
[05:16] <yell0w> nedge, uhm isn't there public ntps available ?
[05:16] <pokingfun> a lot
[05:16] <kuwanger> pirea: Thanks for the information.
[05:16] <nedge> yes, however I want to set up a local NTPs to sync all my windows clients to...
[05:16] <nedge> that is reliable, reliability has been an issue with the public ntp servers...
[05:17] <linuxnooblah> fenrig: can u help me with a part of isntalling graphics drivers
[05:17] <nedge> never have had much luck with them.
[05:17] <yell0w> nedge, not even nist servers ?
[05:17] <dennis_> hi lads, the latest dist-upgrade will remove openoffice.org-core ....what should i do, just wait it out and try again in a couple of hours?
[05:17] <Ulixes> can you tell me why it gives me this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12963/ when i try to install the ATI driver?
[05:18] <nedge> no, 50% of the time the program I use can't connect to the ntp server and fails
[05:18] <nedge> then my clocks are off.
[05:18] <nedge> could be a firewall thing...
[05:18] <pokingfun> yell0w: is nist the best?
[05:18] <yell0w> nedge, ahh, then it's the client's problem, i've never had problems with nist's ntp server
[05:18] <pokingfun> me either
[05:18] <nedge> regardless, I'd like a local server...
[05:18] <batusays> hi
[05:18] <FD-Spuddy> hi how are you - You are Speaking to Spuddys Bot
[05:19] <yell0w> pokingfun, it's the us's national standard institute
[05:19] <batusays> who can help me with files attributes
[05:19] <batusays> ?
[05:19] <pirea> dennis_: Not sure, tried just reinstalling openoffice.org-core manually?
[05:19] <batusays> how can i delete the readonly, and chanbge the root permissions
[05:20] <WaxyFresh> what am i typeing wrong? "sudo apt-get purge purge openoffice.org-base"
[05:20] <Terrasque> --purge WaxyFresh
[05:20] <yell0w> nedge, as i said, if the client can't connect to public nist, how is it gonna work on yours ?
[05:20] <pirea> WaxyFresh: "sudo apt-get install --purge openoffice.org-base"
[05:20] <pirea> Or remove...
[05:20] <MarkCh> how do i get the default gateway on my network connection? is it the default route in the connection information dialog?
[05:20] <pirea> That'd make a lot more sense with the --purge flag. XD
[05:20] <yell0w> WaxyFresh, or you can do sudo aptitude purge whatever...
[05:20] <bristol27> I guess I'm just screwed...
[05:21] <pokingfun> bristol27: ???
[05:21] <pirea> bristol27: Oh man, had the same problem with virtualbox.
[05:21] <surface> anyone try pptpconfig before?
[05:22] <bristol27> how did you ever get your system back?
[05:22] <bristol27> I mean I cant install updates or even use synaptic
[05:22] <pokingfun> does it matter?
[05:22] <bristol27> an error always has to occur
[05:22] <KalleDK> If i got two dir's with a lots of folders, and they'r nearly equa how can i search for files and folders which are in the one, but not in the other ??
[05:22] <pirea> Had to overwrite the dpkg status of it, as if it was never there..
[05:22] <Terrasque> bristol27: threatened the machine with installing windows 95. Suddenly everything just worked :D
[05:23] <bristol27> lol
[05:23] <pokingfun> ...
[05:23] <pokingfun> cold~
[05:23] <mdasilva> hi all
[05:23] <pirea> Actually had the line in mention on my clipboard manager and cleared the sucker the moment I woke up. :V
[05:23] <bristol27> how do you overwrite it?
[05:24] <bristol27> it will not let me re-download the d@$# thing that would be too easy
[05:24] <bristol27> nothing can ever just be easy on my end
[05:24] <bristol27> it's like an unwritten law
[05:25] <WaxyFresh> is there a way to sudo apt-get  remove --purge filename******** like insert a wildcard at the end of a file name?
[05:25] <MarkCh> hi all. can anyone help me on sharing a net connection from ubuntu to a windows xp machine?
[05:25] <bristol27> SMASH THE PC!!!!! SMASH THE PC!! #$%!%@$%^#%&$*$^*
[05:25] <wilo> to install a .sh file
[05:25] <port101> lol
[05:25] <chris224234> does anyone know about how to use wine?
[05:25] <wilo> youjust cd to directory, then go sudo sh setup.sh, correct?
[05:26] <yell0w> WaxyFresh, no, that will be dangerous, might purge osmething you don't intend to
[05:26] <dennis_> pirea, thanks for the idea, i give it a shot
[05:26] <MarkCh> windows xp says cannot get network adress.
[05:26] <pirea> bristol27: Ah, I'm a dope if there ever was one. Forgot to check my channel logs. lol
[05:26] <yell0w> wilo, just ./setup.sh
[05:27] <Terrasque> bristol27: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20010327
[05:27] <yell0w> wilo, if not, add sudo
[05:27] <davek_> I set up Evolution mail but I don't get a password box to type in my password, how do I get the password box to pop up?
[05:27] <wilo> yell0w: thanks tats got i
[05:27] <wilo> it*
[05:27] <bristol27> everything I throw at it brings this bullshiznit back:  E: The package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[05:27] <WaxyFresh> whats the name of the cups-sys package?
[05:28] <yell0w> WaxyFresh, aptitude search cups
[05:28] <exs> anyone here with html + css skills who will be up for fixing the WUbi homepage (a ubuntu installer for windows)?.. I'm the web designer, and the sites done, but there's a few problems with crop up in IE7.
[05:28] <SlimeyPete> davek_: edit->preferences->accounts->edit->receiving email. Check that the authentication type is set to password.
[05:28] <ygarcia> ola
[05:28] <NET||abuse> hi all, i just got myself an atheros based wifi card for my lappy,, now gnome network manager reports good signal all over th house (so nice ot have actual signal readings compared to my last year with a useless bcom 4315) but nm-applet has really low low signal strength being reported
[05:28] <DeathSou|> ola?
[05:29] <pokingfun> hola?
[05:29] <WaxyFresh> yell0w: when you "apt-get removepackage name" does it remove all componates/dependancys?
[05:29] <ygarcia> ola
[05:29] <pokingfun> ole
[05:29] <kothz> Am I asking for trouble if I install beryl.  /ponder
[05:29] <pokingfun> oley
[05:29] <SlimeyPete> kothz: yes.
[05:29] <ygarcia> ola
[05:29] <mixandgo> hello, I can't upgrade to ubuntu 7.04, I get "Could not calculate the upgrade" before the "Fetching and installing the upgrades" step
[05:29] <SlimeyPete> it's quite fun to play with, though.
[05:29] <yell0w> WaxyFresh, yes, most of the time i use aptitude, but both of them do the same thing
[05:30] <pirea> >>sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq virtualbox
[05:30] <kothz> Heh - is it going to be one of those things that requires surgery to get rid of? :)
[05:30] <pirea> Well, actually: dpkg --force-reinstreq -r virtualbox
[05:31] <SlimeyPete> kothz: it's not too bad to get rid of, actually. You just take some bits out of your xorg.conf IIRC.
[05:31] <NET||abuse> so anyone know why my nm-applet is showing awful reception while the actual reception reported by iwlist ath0 scan and gnome-network-manager is good?
[05:31] <pirea> Wish I could remember the location of the dpkg state file, could always just manually delete the lines in it for virtualbox.
[05:31] <SlimeyPete> but it does cause a lot of apps to break while you're running it ;)
[05:32] <WaxyFresh> whats the name of the cupsys package
[05:32] <yell0w> WaxyFresh, aptitude search cups
[05:32] <pirea> WaxyFresh: cupsys :)
[05:32] <davek_> Thanks I'll check that
[05:32] <MarkCh> hi all. can anybody help, windows does not detect my ubuntu box. says it cannot get an ip adress...
[05:33] <kothz> Pete: Well, I've already installed ubuntu variants thrice today... a fourth time shouldn't hurt :)
[05:33] <RoundyT1> i have a question
[05:33] <dennis_> pirea, i reinstalled openoffice.org-core, but this has no influence on my dist-upgrade, i just wait it out i guess
[05:33] <syock> How do I choose the default shell? I see that I have both dash and bash installed.
[05:33] <davek_> Slimey: it is set to that, but I still don't get the password box to come up
[05:34] <pigeonflight_> Is there a website dedicated to running ubunto on a macbook?
[05:34] <Warbo> syock: Try installing "galternatives" and running it as super user. That chooses most things
[05:34] <RoundyT1> how can i change permissions of Windows folders on a network...
[05:34] <bristol27> dpkg: unknown force/refuse option `reinstreq'
[05:34] <pirea> dennis_: What architecture are you using?
[05:35] <bristol27> cer2@acer-laptop:~$ sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq virtualbox
[05:35] <bristol27> dpkg: need an action option
[05:35] <dennis_> pirea, kubuntu feisty fawn, sry i just realised i'm in the wrong channel...i'll ask it in #ubuntu+1 or kubuntu
[05:36] <DigitaluX> Hello everybody
[05:36] <Warbo> DigitaluX: yo
[05:36] <DigitaluX> Can somebody help me :-)
[05:36] <Warbo> DigitaluX: Ask away, we'll see
[05:36] <bowman> HI all, I'm facing some trouble with the latest live CD, dell inspiron 6400 notebook, onboard ATI mobility radeon x1400 graphics chip - I'm not getting the X server to run. what can I pass as a boot param to get X up?
[05:36] <DigitaluX> I"m searching a doc for some guidlines programming with gnome libs
[05:37] <DigitaluX> :-)
[05:37] <sharms> pirea: no longer is that needed
[05:37] <ChEeko> how can i restart my nautilus services?
[05:37] <sharms> pirea, bristol27:            sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[05:37] <SlimeyPete> davek_: odd. Are you sure your server is configured to use password authentication?
[05:37] <WaxyFresh> yell0w: how do i tell which package is the main one?
[05:37] <sharms> pirea, bristol27: atleast in 1.3.8
[05:37] <bristol27> c4 couldn't take out the aggression I'm feeling at this machine right now
[05:38] <yell0w> WaxyFresh, mostly the one with the most generic name (without -dev -doc -data , etc... )
[05:38] <yell0w> WaxyFresh, what exactly are you looking for ?
[05:38] <Sivik> is there a way to save my grub so when i have to reinstall windows, to not have to reinstall linux
[05:38] <bristol27> $ sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[05:38] <bristol27> sudo: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: command not found
[05:38] <tokyo25> what do u do when u have a error in ubuntu? how easy is it to fix compared to windows?
[05:38] <linuxnooblah> jsut installed nvidia drivers for my 7900gt and my eyes are tanking me no more 1024x768
[05:39] <davek_> I think so. this is for a friend who I set up Ubuntu for on a new pc this week. Evolution works fine on my pc
[05:39] <yell0w> tokyo25, you have a lot more control over what's running than in windows
[05:39] <sharms> bristol27: again, 1.3.8
[05:39] <Suurorca> Sivik: yes. you can start up the livecd, chroot to your ubuntu installation and manually reload grub into MBR
[05:39] <tokyo25> i get this message when i go to synaptic packge mnger
[05:39] <tokyo25> V
[05:39] <Suurorca> Sivik: but you'd better be pretty familiar with commandline to do that
[05:39] <SlimeyPete> davek_: not sure then, sorry
[05:39] <bristol27> what do you mean?
[05:40] <sharms> bristol27: the version of VirtualBox you should be running
[05:40] <tokyo25> not v
[05:40] <tokyo25> sorry
[05:40] <tokyo25>  tried to paste it
[05:40] <b__> bristol27: you still having trouble?
[05:40] <syock> Warbo: galternatives doesn`t list sh as an option. Is it safe to just symlink /bin/sh to bash?
[05:40] <Ciachbajera> jest ktos z polski?
[05:40] <ChEeko> how can i restart my nautilus service?
[05:41] <Agrajag> !pl
[05:41] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[05:41] <Warbo> syock: Should be. There's nothing I can think of that relies on bash-only things
[05:41] <bristol27> yeah I'm about to sudo apt-get a sledgehammer and smash this laptop to bits
[05:41] <b__> hehe... what's the error now?
[05:41] <annihilus> ha
[05:41] <Sivik> Suurorcaok, what do i need to try
[05:41] <Warbo> syock: move bash somewhere first though, I wouldn't delete it
[05:42] <Sivik> Suurorca, how do i reload grub?
[05:42] <sharms> bristol27: what version of ubuntu are you running
[05:42] <tokyo25> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[05:42] <bristol27> one sec..  I'll let you see my screen..
[05:42] <bristol27> edgy
[05:42] <Suurorca> Sivik: http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore/ <- read that
[05:42] <tokyo25> thats the error i get in synaptic packge mnger
[05:42] <sharms> bristol27: then the process is super easy + simple
[05:42] <bristol27> really?
[05:43] <sharms> bristol27: download it: http://www.virtualbox.org/download/1.3.8/VirtualBox_1.3.8_Ubuntu_edgy_i386.deb
[05:43] <Warbo> tokyo25: Open a terminal (from accessories) and run that command with "sudo " in front of it
[05:43] <syock> Warbo, I mean replace sh`s symlink to dash into symlink to bash. Whatever it is, I'll try until it`s broke
[05:43] <sharms> bristol27: install it: dpkg -i VirtualBox_1.3.8_Ubuntu_edgy_i386.deb
[05:43] <ChEeko> !virtualbox
[05:43] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[05:43] <bristol27> oh..  lol.. yeah.. that did not work
[05:43] <sharms> bristol27: Go to Applications -> System -> VirtualBox
[05:43] <Warbo> syock: "If it ain't broke, fix it until it is" :)
[05:43] <tokyo25> do i type sudo in the terminal?
[05:43] <sharms> bristol27: it 100% works
[05:43] <m1r> how can i change boot screen *?
[05:43] <tokyo25> im logged in as my name
[05:43] <StucKman> hi all. is there any way to make aptitude only install packages without removing unused ones?
[05:43] <sharms> ChEeko: that was no help, that avenue was already explored.
[05:44] <Warbo> tokyo25: run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[05:44] <WaxyFresh> yell0w: i wnat to remove cups and a few other large packages,any large package im not useing which is alot
[05:44] <tokyo25> sudo dpkg --configure a
[05:44] <ChEeko> sharms: that was not help about on the virtualbox page.. u got there what u want.
[05:44] <tokyo25> oops
[05:44] <tokyo25> wrong window
[05:44] <Suurorca> Sivik: you need to find someone else to help you with using chroot, I need to leave now ;)
[05:44] <yell0w> WaxyFresh, sudo aptitude remove cupsys
[05:44] <MarkCh> hi... can anybody help me? i want to share my ubuntu box with windows but windows says limited or no connectivity and it doesnt connect.
[05:45] <euph> hello, n00b question, I can't figure out how to get the proper codec/plugin for xmms to support mp3 and help much appreciated
[05:45] <Warbo> StucKman: You can always just press : or + on the heading for the auto-removed ones before you press g a second time
[05:45] <tokyo25> ok i did that
[05:45] <bristol27>  error processing VirtualBox_1.3.8_Ubuntu_edgy_i386.deb (--install):
[05:45] <bristol27>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[05:45] <bristol27> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:45] <bristol27>  VirtualBox_1.3.8_Ubuntu_edgy_i386.deb
[05:45] <turbolover> biggest rip off ever
[05:45] <dyrne> m1r: what are you referring to as boot screen?
[05:45] <bristol27> oops..  thought that was gonna be one line..
[05:45] <Warbo> !multimedia > euph
[05:45] <bristol27> sorry you all
[05:45] <dyrne> m1r: grub ?
[05:45] <m1r> dno
[05:45] <sharms> bristol27: download and reinstall.  Use the command: wget http://www.virtualbox.org/download/1.3.8/VirtualBox_1.3.8_Ubuntu_edgy_i386.deb
[05:45] <m1r> no
[05:45] <m1r> real boot screen
[05:45] <m1r> when showing ubuntu with trackj loading below
[05:46] <Warbo> tokyo25: That should have sorted out anything screwed up by quitting a package manager before it was finished. Now run Synaptic again
[05:46] <euph> goes xmms work with this gstreamer thing?
[05:46] <tokyo25> ok thansk
[05:46] <euph> does*
[05:46] <StucKman> Warbo: I mean, from the command line
[05:46] <tokyo25> exit
[05:46] <Warbo> euph: No, it uses its own thing
[05:46] <tokyo25> ignore that
[05:46] <euph> well the ubuntu help files only talk about gstreamer
[05:47] <bristol27> now that last one worked I think.. but let me make sure
[05:47] <MarkCh> help! i want to share my ubuntu box with windows but windows says limited or no connectivity and it doesn't seem to connect.
[05:47] <sharms> bristol27: now in the directory you downloaded it to, type: sudo dpkg -i   Virtual*TAB*TAB*TAB*
[05:47] <dyrne> m1r: i think there is a ubuntu-usplash-theme package but i normally disable it. i need to see a framebuffer loading screen with a penguin on top myself
[05:47] <sharms> bristol27: where *TAB* is the tab key
[05:48] <bristol27> 100%[[05:48] <euph> i need the codecs for xmms
[05:48] <euph> alas
[05:48] <bristol27> goodie goodie gum drops
[05:48] <bristol27> what do you mean in the directory I downloaded to?
[05:48] <SlimeyPete> tokyo25: you can just press ctrl-D instead of typing "exit"
[05:48] <bristol27> smack me anytime
[05:48] <sharms> bristol27: whereever you just ran the wget command
[05:49] <sharms> bristol27: also make sure to respond quickly, you only have my attention for another 3 mins or so
[05:49] <bristol27> so just type that in terminal?
[05:49] <bristol27> and tab tab tab
[05:49] <sharms> bristol27: what is the output of "ls | grep Virtual"
[05:50] <life> what is else to try, if I can't stream videos with firefox after installing the win32 codecs and the xine-firefox-plugin
[05:50] <dyrne> life: i prefer the mplayer plugin
[05:51] <life> hello dyrne, so I should just uninstall the xine plugin and try it with the mplayer?
[05:51] <bristol27> wow.. that just went crazy
[05:51] <ChEeko> well .. i have 17 inch.. Screen Moniter.. i install Edgy.. now screen shows something 14 inch display :< how can i conf my 17 inch moniter? or update my vga drivers?
[05:51] <m1r> dyrne, how do i disable it ?
[05:51] <MarkCh> help! i need a guide on how to network ubuntu to windows directly i.e. ubuntu -> cable -> windows xp
[05:51] <sharms> bristol27: paste output in paste bin
[05:52] <WaxyFresh> !kdelibs4-dev
[05:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdelibs4-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:52] <sharms> MarkCh: you need a crossover cable
[05:52] <bristol27> !pastebin
[05:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:52] <sharms> MarkCh: that is a networking question, not a ubuntu question
[05:52] <MarkCh> windows xp says it cannot get an ip from a host, what does it mean? ubuntu doesnt report any problems.
[05:52] <MarkCh> sharms: where should i ask this question then?
[05:52] <dyrne> m1r: well you can to test and make sure you really want to do: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/usplash  i think is the script name
[05:52] <MarkCh> i think the cat-5 cable i have is a crossover cable enough already.
[05:52] <sharms> MarkCh: your systems need to be configured for TCP/IP on the same network.  Ex. Ubuntu could be <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>    windows could be <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:53] <m1r> dyrne tnx, i go check
[05:53] <Warbo> MarkCh: Windows won't be sent an IP unless you run a DHCP server on Ubuntu. It is easier just to give WIndows a static address
[05:53] <njero> hey all, is feisty planned for beginning April or late April?
[05:53] <bristol27> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12969/
[05:53] <dyrne> m1r: but you might gedit /etc/init.d/usplash and find the image location then you can replace it with another image. all of this can be done automatically in gui prob
[05:53] <pirea> neil: April 19th, or the week of.
[05:53] <MarkCh> sharms: thanks, ill try those static ips on windows and ubuntu now and see if it works.
[05:53] <ChEeko> well .. i have 17 inch.. Screen Moniter.. i install Edgy.. now screen shows something 14 inch display :< how can i conf my 17 inch moniter? or i will update my vga drivers?
[05:53] <capah> Question, in Ubuntu how do I manually set DNS ? I am at a location where dhclient is not picking up a DNS server and so I must set one manually. How do I do this, anyone?
[05:53] <sharms> bristol27: no I want the output of "ls | grep Virtual"
[05:53] <njero> pirea: was that for me?
[05:54] <predaeus> euph, xmms should come with /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libmpg123.so I think this is for mp3s.
[05:54] <EmprCezar> If there a list of official Ubuntu OEMs?
[05:54] <Warbo> capah: You should be able to do that in System>Admin>Networking
[05:54] <pokingfun> ChEeko: vidtune?
[05:54] <MarkCh> sharms: im really new to this, what should i put on gateway adress? should i leave it blank?
[05:54] <euph> you mean the tarball or the package from ubuntu
[05:54] <ChEeko> pokingfun: what?
[05:54] <pirea> njero: Yeah, tab-completion failed me. :P
[05:54] <njero> np, I figured it was for me :)
[05:54] <njero> thanks
[05:54] <capah> thank you
[05:54] <sharms> MarkCh: There is no gateway with 2 systems connected with a crossover cable
[05:55] <MarkCh> ok ill just leave it blank then, thanks.
[05:55] <pokingfun> ChEeko: my bad, man xvidtune
[05:55] <sharms> MarkCh: Unless you want your linux system to do NAT routing, in which case it is probably better you purchase a book
[05:55] <sharms> MarkCh: an average network would connect 2 or more systems together with a "hub" or a "switch"
[05:56] <Warbo> sharms: Or peruse TLDP.org (after much messing around to get fully to grips with Linux)
[05:56] <euph> lol predaeus, nvm its working
[05:56] <ChEeko> pokingfun: ya xvidtune for what? how can i set it? means screen is not full .. want to full it.
[05:56] <euph> thx
[05:56] <pokingfun> ChEeko: ...
[05:56] <predaeus> euph, nice.
[05:56] <sharms> MarkCh: on this network, this hub or switch would be connected to a gateway/firewall system that would have 2 interfaces: 1 connected to the internal hub, and one connected to the internet
[05:56] <bristol27> sharms: no clue man.. heres the other half..http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12970/
[05:56] <``26``> sudovoodoo: timestamp too far in the future: Mar 30 10:52:29 2007
[05:56] <ChEeko> pokingfun: i m new so help me out ...
[05:56] <euph> this is my first time with ubuntu, i really like the fact that it uses debian packages
[05:56] <bristol27> oops
[05:56] <bristol27> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12970/
[05:56] <euph> and an isiot could install it
[05:56] <clouder`grr> What does the super key look like on a non windows or apple keyboard?
[05:56] <euph> idiot*
[05:56] <sharms> MarkCh: most consumers actually purchase a linksys or dlink device which is both the gateway/firewall and the hub
[05:57] <linuxnooblah> why is that whenever i try to install a theme from art.gnome.org i get invalid file type error
[05:57] <Smerity> Hmm - anyone know a Javacsript tutorial/reference or can help explain to me what "observe: function( aSubject, aTopic, aData ) { codeStuff(); }" is? I've only started using JS heavily tonight in a Songbird extension and this baffles me
[05:57] <Smerity> Wrong channel, soz
[05:57] <sharms> bristol27: I need the output of the command "ls | grep Virtual"
[05:57] <pirea> linuxnooblah: What's the extension of it?
[05:57] <ardchoille> euph: Ubuntu doesn't use debian packages. Ubuntu uses .deb's made for Ubuntu. It's dangerous to use debian .deb's on Ubuntu.
[05:57] <sharms> bristol27: type that in exactly as I have it
[05:57] <Warbo> euph: To me Ubuntu is just Debian with a usable system out-of-the-box, and a nicer community where my ideas are heard
[05:57] <linuxnooblah> tar.gz
[05:57] <freeware_xp> hey guys have your tried mint os yet?
[05:57] <Smerity> ardchoille, you can convert Debian debs to Ubuntu debs
[05:57] <bristol27> oh
[05:57] <Smerity> Alien I think?
[05:57] <bristol27> lol
[05:57] <ardchoille> Smerity: How?
[05:57] <predaeus> linuxnooblah, did you drag drop the tar.gz onto the theme manager or did you unpack it?
[05:58] <euph> Warbo, yes exactly, debian *still* doesnt 'officially' support amd64 how weak
[05:58] <Warbo> freeware_xp: I plan to
[05:58] <MarkCh> hi again, ppl. i have another networking problem. whenever i enable eth1 with a static ip, eth0 goes down and i cant seem to access the internet anymore unless i disable eth0
[05:58] <tokyo25> when installing ubuntu whats ext2 and ext3 about?
[05:58] <linuxnooblah> drag and drop into theme manager
[05:58] <pirea> linuxnooblah: I don't have much experience with GNOME but as far as I know you just drag-and-drop the archive to the theme manager.
[05:58] <ardchoille> Smerity: Have you read the last line of !alien ?
[05:58] <tokyo25> whats the difference
[05:58] <euph> ardchoille: yes but i mean dselect and apt-get and shit
[05:58] <MarkCh> i dont think i should buy a dlink device because of cost constraints and the fact that im just sharing 2 pcs anyway.
[05:58] <pirea> You could try unpacking the archive in ~/.themes
[05:58] <ardchoille> euph: Ah
[05:58] <bristol27>  ls | grep Virtual
[05:58] <bristol27> VirtualBox_1.3.8_Ubuntu_edgy_i386.deb
[05:58] <linuxnooblah> ill give it a go
[05:58] <sabe4baba> hello
[05:59] <Smerity> ardchoille, that I have not
[05:59] <predaeus> linuxnooblah, weird, no idea sorry. does this happen with all themes or only with a specific one?
[05:59] <Smerity> !alien
[05:59] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[05:59] <linuxnooblah> all themes
[05:59] <pirea> Good chance the files in it aren't structured as they normally should, might include source or multiple themes.
[05:59] <tokyo25> im really new at this, anyone reccomend a book i can buy or download on basic navigating ubuntu.
[05:59] <Smerity> ardchoille, ah - fair call =]
[05:59] <freeware_xp> warbo it uses ubuntu file but a hell of a lot quicker
[05:59] <sabe4baba> I have a problem with the drivers anyone can help me?
[05:59] <sharms> bristol27: now type in this command EXACTLY as in these quotes: "dpkg -i VirtualBox_1.3.8_Ubuntu_edgy_i386.deb"
[05:59] <sharms> bristol27: err "sudo dpkg -i VirtualBox_1.3.8_Ubuntu_edgy_i386.deb"
[06:00] <Warbo> euph: I'm thinking more of the fact that all of the "help" in #debian I got was people laughing at me because I didn't know the intricacies of APT (I ended up having to reinstall thanks to them not telling me how to fix my problem, so I tried to figure it out myself and screwed my system). Ubuntu is much friendlier, and also anyone can contribute anything, Debian seems to only accept code and only from very experienced programm
[06:01] <sharms> euph: Also we have the most active forums of any distribution: http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[06:01] <euph> yes i agree Ubuntu so far seems like a bunch of techie hippies, just my kinda people
[06:01] <euph> thats what i hear
[06:01] <euph> cool beans
[06:01] <bristol27> yeah, now I'm back at the somewhat of a gui terminal thingy
[06:01] <euph> ive been using linux for 3 years but i still am a noob when it comes to lots of things
[06:01] <Ghiddo> i know i like it
[06:01] <linuxnooblah> hmm no luck :X
[06:02] <sharms> bristol27: what is it asking?
[06:02] <WaxyFresh> in aptitude under obolete and localy cahced files,are they all useless?can i remove them?
[06:02] <freeware_xp> warbo also try puppy linux CE edition. its nice with the vista blue theme, also try myah os , is another well done o's
[06:02] <sabe4baba> I have a problem with the drivers anyone can help me?
[06:02] <MarkCh> help! whenever i enable a network connection in ubuntu, the other network fails and vice versa, i have 2 network cards, are there any workarounds to this problem?
[06:02] <SlimeyPete> sabe4baba: what problem?
[06:02] <bristol27> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12971/
[06:02] <predaeus> linuxnooblah, are you on ubuntu with gnome, or on xubuntu or on kubuntu?
[06:03] <linuxnooblah> ubuntu with gnome
[06:03] <sabe4baba> I can't get connected to the wireless
[06:03] <predaeus> hm
[06:03] <pirea> WaxyFresh: Are you asking how to clean the apt cache?
[06:03] <zero-9376> MarkCh: are your two cards both trying to be default gateways
[06:03] <MarkCh> zero-9376: i don't know
[06:03] <SlimeyPete> MarkCh: are you using static IPs? Don't mean to patronise but if so you'll want to check that each interface has a different IP ;)
[06:03] <bristol27> scrolled to the bottom.. now what?
[06:04] <sacater> WaxyFresh: try, sudo apt-get autoremove
[06:04] <WaxyFresh> pirea: is that all thats in there? i just want to know if by obsolete it really means obolete
[06:04] <sharms> MarkCh: I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but you are going to have to do some reading about how networking works
  I'm not able to get connected to the wireless
[06:04] <CheshireViking> in ubuntu, how do i stop icons for mounted volumes appearing on the desktop? I can get to them via "Places" from the menu and I'd like to keep the desktop clean if possible
[06:04] <SlimeyPete> sabe4baba: how do you mean? Doesn't Ubuntu recognise your card?
[06:04] <MarkCh> SlimeyPete: so, if my current dhcp ip is 192.168.x.x what ip should the static card then.
[06:05] <bristol27> nm..  figured it out..  use the arrow keys.. lol
[06:05] <sabe4baba> yes but I'm sure it's not recognised correctly
[06:05] <pirea> WaxyFresh: Don't follow, you mean a dir in /var/apt/cache called obsolete?
[06:05] <zero-9376> CheshireViking: gconf-editor nautilus desktop untick show volumes - thats from memory ill check if you wnat
[06:05] <ardchoille> CheshireViking: Open gconf-editor, go to /apps/nautilus/desktop and uncheck the items you don't wanna see.
[06:05] <SlimeyPete> MarkCh: 192.168.(x+1).x would be fine
[06:05] <linuxnooblah> is beryl easy to setup?
[06:05] <clouder`grr> I thought autoremove got rid of obsolete packages.  I think sudo apt-get clean cleans out the downloaded archives
 yes but I'm sure it's not recognised correctly
[06:05] <bristol27>  * Starting VirtualBox kernel module vboxdrv                             [ ok ]
[06:05] <SlimeyPete> sabe4baba: does it appear in the network manager?
[06:05] <Jubei> could somebody look at this and tell me what u think is wrong?:) http://www.pastebin.ca/416911
[06:05] <ardchoille> CheshireViking: I think it's the volumes_visible that you want to uncheck
[06:05] <sabe4baba> yes
[06:05] <Warbo> linuxnooblah: Depends on your current situation. If you have 3D grpahics drivers then pretty much yes
[06:05] <WaxyFresh> pirea: no in aptitude theres a area called loclay cached/obolete files,is it safe to remove these all?
[06:06] <linuxnooblah> Warbo: yes i do :D
[06:06] <SlimeyPete> MarkCh: what is the purpose of you having two NICs, btw? Are you connecting to two seperate LANs?
[06:06] <sharms> bristol27: once instaleld go to Applications -> System Tools -> VirtualBox
 yes, but I see that it has only IPv6 and not the IP v4 ! isn;t weird?
[06:06] <CheshireViking> zero-9376, ardchoille is gconf-editor a terminal command?
[06:06] <SlimeyPete> sabe4baba: that is very weird, yes
[06:06] <SlimeyPete> I'm not sure how to solve that, I'm afraid
[06:06] <CheshireViking> zero-9376, ardchoille - just googling around now looking for it
[06:06] <sabe4baba> maybe reinstalling the driver
[06:06] <pirea> Oh, WaxyFresh.
[06:07] <bristol27> ah' its there.. it's actually there.. thanks man..  you saved my crappy day from going down the crapper
[06:07] <sabe4baba> it was working with ubuntu %
[06:07] <ardchoille> CheshireViking: Applications > System Tools > Configuration Editor
 it was working with ubuntu 5
[06:07] <Warbo> WaxyFresh: Short answer: No. These are things that are not in your repos, for example if you download a .deb off the Internets then it will show up there. If you downloaded it manually then you probably want it, and therefore shouldn't remove it
[06:07] <bristol27> anything else I should do?
[06:07] <zero-9376> CheshireViking: alt-f2 then type in gconf-editor
[06:07] <pirea> WaxyFresh: Obsolete packages are ones that are no longer found on any repositories listed from sources.list.
[06:07] <bristol27> I really appreciate you taking your time to help me
[06:07] <MarkCh> SlimyPete: thanks a lot. it works...
[06:07] <ph8> hey all!
[06:07] <SlimeyPete> MarkCh: np
 now Ubuntu 6 doesn't recognise all my drivers but ubuntu 5 used to work properly on all the devices isn't weird?
[06:07] <Warbo> linuxnooblah: I followed the guide on http://help.ubuntu.com/community and it worked out fine
[06:07] <ph8> i'm running amarok under gnome - and the right click of the amarok icon suggests winkey+B will do the next track
[06:08] <ph8> needless to say it doesn't work - any idea how i can remedy this?
[06:08] <SlimeyPete> sabe4baba: very strange, yes.
[06:08] <Warbo> ph8: Are you running Compiz/Beryl?
[06:08] <sharms> bristol27: virtualbox is a blast, glad to help
[06:08] <kuwanger> Is there any reason why at boot the system wouldn't switch to VC7 when *dm is used?
[06:08] <ph8> no
[06:08] <linuxnooblah> Warbo: jsut followed the guide on beryl site need to retart
[06:08] <ArCHoNKoG> Is any one having problems with the DWL-G650 wireless card on signal.
[06:08] <ph8> Warbo: No
[06:08] <Warbo> ph8: About a year ago I found that Compiz took over my windows key
[06:08] <Warbo> oh well
[06:08] <ph8> ah
[06:08] <bristol27> yeah I wish I hadn't hit the wireless button in the middle of the install...
 I have a laptop Toshiba
[06:08] <ph8> no i can't get my 3d card recognise
[06:08] <ph8> * recognised
[06:08] <bristol27> never would have had that problem
[06:09] <ph8> so no hope of beryl!
[06:09] <CheshireViking> zero-9376, thanks, ardchoille it doesn't appear under system tools for me, but zero-9376's suggestion has brought it up, thanks again
[06:09] <WaxyFresh> if im not a software devolper can i remove everthing in devolpment tools in aptitude?
[06:09] <ardchoille> CheshireViking: Ah, then someone moved it. Thanks for letting me know.
[06:09] <zero-9376> CheshireViking: no problem
[06:09] <Warbo> WaxyFresh: Some of that is useful for installing things from source
[06:09] <Warbo> WaxyFresh: I take it you are trying to clean out unneeded packages?
[06:10] <Xif> What's a great bittorrent client for Edgy, that's not ktorrent?
[06:10] <ph8> azuereus?
[06:10] <ph8> azureus?
[06:10] <Warbo> WaxyFresh: Try installing and running debfoster (as super user). It takes a while to go through, but checks through everything
[06:10] <ph8> however you spell it :p
[06:10] <clouder`grr> Xif: try freeloader
[06:10] <WaxyFresh> !debfoster
[06:10] <ubotu> debfoster is a command to weed unnecessary .deb packages. See http://www.fruit.eu.org/debfoster/
[06:10] <WaxyFresh> Warbo: thanks
[06:10] <jay_> Where do u change the Gtk theme? I want to change the theme so that the color that is behind the Applications, Places and System background color changes... as it is now.. I have a backgrond image for the panel but that background image does not extend to the background of applications,places and system button... I want to change the background behind those
[06:11] <WaxyFresh> Warbo: i just relized i had 98 megs of free space left.so yeah im trying to clear things out
[06:11] <CheshireViking> zero-9376, ardchoille thanks for the advice, it was uncheck the volumes_visible box, much appreciated
[06:11] <ardchoille> CheshireViking: You're welcome :)
[06:12] <ardchoille> CheshireViking: I believe the reason your gconf-editor isn't in the System Tools menu is because it is hidden. You can open the alacarte menu editor and unhide some things.
[06:12] <bristol27> I like bit tornado
[06:12] <Ind[y] > Hello. I have installed Ubuntu 6.10 on a pc that connects to the internet through an ADSL modem. I have found the sources for linux driver/firmware for the modem, but I cannot compile them, because Ubuntu does not come with a c compiler. I have to apt-get install it, but I don't yet have an internet connection (that is I am thrying to establish). Any ideas, please?
[06:12] <bristol27> but I'm weird like that
[06:13] <Ind[y] > s/thrying/trying
[06:13] <FringeJacket> Ind[y]  I like g++
[06:13] <CheshireViking> ardchoille, you beat me to it, i was just typing a reply when your last message came up, I went to menu layout and ticked the box there to unhide it
[06:13] <Ind[y] > I found the sources for the modem driver/firmware from a friend's USB.
[06:13] <bristol27> well.. thanks again sharm.. off to toy with it now
[06:13] <Ind[y] > FringeJacket: Does Ubuntu come with g++ by default?
[06:13] <booglebox> Can you connect to the modem via RJ45 instead of USB?
[06:13] <Ferret> FringeJacket: Huh?
[06:14] <davisc> Ind[y] : Get the packages on the machine you're on now and dpkg -i them?
[06:14] <Ind[y] > booglebox: I don't think so.
[06:14] <Warbo> Ind[y] : Look for "build-essential" on packages.ubuntu.com, then get that along with the things it depends on (there will probably be a load...)
[06:14] <Ferret> Ind[y] : Does the livecd have the compiled drivers?  You could boot that and use it to download the correct .debs
[06:14] <FringeJacket> ferret, its my c++ compiler, for clas, aka gnu
[06:14] <Ind[y] > davisc: How will I get these packages? How do I know what packages will I need?
[06:14] <linuxnooblah> where do i configure beryl?
[06:14] <WaxyFresh> Warbo: its a .pl file how do i run it?
[06:15] <Ferret> FringeJacket: Uh, it's the one everyone uses; so I don't see the point of recommending it to people.
[06:15] <Warbo> There is package of it in Ubuntu
[06:15] <Warbo> WaxyFresh: ^
[06:15] <Warbo> WaxyFresh: I just install debfoster then run sudo debfoster
[06:15] <Ind[y] > Ferret: Does the livecd come with the compiled drivers? Its is something about eagle-modem or something.
[06:16] <Ind[y] > Ubuntu should come with a c compiler preiinstalled :/
[06:16] <Warbo> WaxyFresh: (but for the sake of completeness "sudo perl debfoster.pl"
[06:16] <FringeJacket> Ferret he asked for the compiler
[06:16] <Agrajag> Ind[y] : isn't it on the CD?
[06:16] <linuxnooblah> where do i configure beryl?
[06:16] <Warbo> The eagle-usb packages are broken, I have written 2 wiki guide on that modem
[06:16] <ardchoille> linuxnooblah: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support
[06:16] <Ind[y] > Agrajag: I don't know. How can I find out? Is it possible to be built in the kernel?
[06:17] <Warbo> linuxnooblah: Run beryl-manager then right click on the gem icon in the notification area
[06:17] <Agrajag> Ind[y] : what
[06:17] <Agrajag> Ind[y] : I thought you were asking about a compiler...
[06:17] <davisc> Ind[y] : http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/devel/build-essential
[06:17] <Ferret> Warbo: But there are packages for it?  Are they broken for everyone?  Are they fixable without recompiling?
[06:17] <linuxnooblah> Warbo: from where ?
[06:17] <davisc> Ind[y] : Actually...
[06:17] <davisc> Ind[y] : I thought the .deb would be linked from there but it's not...
[06:17] <jburd> Ind[y] , while I agree with you that it should come *preinstalled* (Any Linux distribution should), it isn't very difficult for you to install it.
[06:18] <MadDog011> hello
[06:18] <Warbo> Ferret: The packages do NOT work. I know how to set up those modems Dapper and below, but not Edgy :(
[06:18] <Ind[y] > jburd: How will I do it without an internet connection?
[06:18] <Ferret> Warbo: OK.
[06:18] <jburd> Ind[y] , yes, that's what I am hinting at.
[06:18] <Agrajag> Ind[y] : it is on the CD.
[06:18] <MadDog011> How do I remove EEVERYTHING related to the nvidia drivers and then install EVERYTHING again but install the nvidia-glx driver cus the nvidia binary's DONT WORK out of some reason
[06:18] <Ferret> Warbo: So you recommend compiling those drivers for the moment?
[06:18] <davisc> Ind[y] : You'll have to download the files one by one - like http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/
[06:18] <Agrajag> Ind[y] : at least, it's on the 6.06 Server CD, and it should therefore be on all version.
[06:19] <m1r> dyrne: maddog011 envy
[06:19] <Warbo> Ferret: I'll give you a link to my Dapper guide, you can work from there
[06:19] <m1r> maddog011 envy
[06:19] <Agrajag> Ind[y] : Is your CD-ROM listed in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:19] <m1r> sry dyrne
[06:19] <davisc> Ind[y] : You'll need g++, make and all the rest of the stuff listed on the package page
[06:19] <m1r> maddog011 envy
[06:19] <MadDog011> m1r, envy?
[06:19] <linuxnooblah> Warbo: from where ?
[06:19] <m1r> try that
[06:19] <m1r> envy
[06:19] <MadDog011> m1r what do you mean?
[06:19] <Warbo> Ferret: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/ueagle-atm?highlight=%28eagle%29
[06:19] <Ind[y] > davisc: difficult and time-sparing
[06:20] <Warbo> linuxnooblah: If you have installed Beryl then to run it you should run the command (Alt-F2) "beryl-manager"
[06:20] <Ind[y] > kk. I 'll find my way. thanks anyway. bye :)
[06:20] <Agrajag> Ind[y] : Do you have the CD you installed from?
[06:20] <Agrajag> Ind[y] : I am trying to help you.
[06:20] <Ind[y] > Agrajag: yes
[06:20] <Agrajag> Ind[y] : the compiler packages are on that CD.
[06:21] <Agrajag> Ind[y] : Is your CD listed at teh top of /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:21] <jburd> Ind[y] , are you using an i386 distribution?
[06:21] <Ind[y] > jburd: yep
[06:21] <jburd> Ind[y] , http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu-release/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.list
[06:21] <Ind[y] > Agrajag: No. If I set it, then will it take build-essential from the CD?
[06:21] <Agrajag> jburd: just stop. Please. He has the CD, he can install from there.
[06:21] <Agrajag> Ind[y] : yes
[06:21] <Agrajag> Ind[y] : what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[06:21] <Ind[y] > 6.10
[06:22] <Agrajag> ok, just a moment
[06:23] <Agrajag> Ind[y] : there's a program called apt-cdrom that you should be able to use to add the CD to your sources.list
[06:23] <linuxnooblah> Warbo: couldnt find the file :X
[06:24] <RoundyT1> why isn't the server side of ubuntu very supported
[06:24] <Ind[y] > Agrajag: ok. the cd has build-essential?
[06:24] <Agrajag> Ind[y] : try sudo apt-cdrom add -d /media/cdrom
[06:24] <Agrajag> Ind[y] : yes.
[06:24] <billyy> Hi guys im setting up the vr 5.04 but after id like to update it to the last one, whats the easiest way?
[06:24] <Pici> RoundyT1: What do you mean?
[06:24] <zero-9376> anyone know how i can check for xruns
[06:24] <Ind[y] > ok. thx :-)
[06:24] <RoundyT1> Pici, nevermind
[06:24] <Warbo> linuxnooblah: Oh. Hmm. Maybe things have changed or you followed a different guide
[06:24] <Agrajag> Ind[y] : I only have a 6.06 server disc with me, but I'm certain it's there on the 6.10 desktop disc.
[06:25] <Agrajag> Indlet me know what that command does, I've never added a CD to my sources that way.
[06:25] <linuxnooblah> Warbo: i used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy, yes i think this is old :X
[06:25] <coldpack> i just got here but can't you add a CD to your sources with the Software Sources app?
[06:25] <pepesmith> hello all: how do i remove the very high pitch noise on the sound on my speaker?
[06:25] <Agrajag> coldpack: I don't know, I don't use a gui.
[06:25] <gazuuu> hi
[06:26] <coldpack> ah
[06:26] <coldpack> got it
[06:26] <gazuuu> who know the command to go at textmode
[06:26] <Agrajag> And he left before anyone else could tell him that.
[06:26] <pepesmith> hello all: how do i remove the very high pitch noise on the sound on my speaker?  its produces a high pitch noise on every sound being used by ubuntu
[06:26] <daedra> Agrajag: that is useless
[06:26] <gazuuu> the opose at startx
[06:26] <mcsd> "can't find /home/test/mnt/ebunto-6.10-live.iso in /etc/fstab or etc/mtab" trying to mount a live cd iso for custom build
[06:26] <Agrajag> daedra: what is useless?
[06:26] <coldpack> otherwise use "apt-cdrom add" in the terminal
[06:26] <daedra> Whats the point in telling someone why you can't help them?
[06:26] <Agrajag> daedra: what, I did help him.
[06:27] <Agrajag> daedra: I told him to use apt-cdrom add
[06:27] <mcsd> did a sudo mount *.iso -o loop
[06:27] <daedra> "coldpack: I don't know, I don't use a gui"
[06:27] <Agrajag> Which should solve his problem, which is an inability to install a compiler due to a lack of internet access.
[06:27] <Agrajag> daedra: coldpack is not the one who asked, Ind[y]  was.
[06:27] <Pici> mcsd: Did you supply a mountpoint?
[06:27] <mcsd> guess not
[06:27] <mcsd> how do I do that
[06:28] <Agrajag> daedra: coldpack merely suggested an alternate solution.
[06:28] <KalleDK> Is there any here that is good to search :) - Have two equal lib's - nearly - so I would like to search for files, that does not exist in the other lib
[06:28] <coldpack> the command line... try "sudo apt-cdrom add"
[06:28] <Agrajag> coldpack: yes, that's what I told him, just before he left.
[06:28] <coldpack> ok
[06:28] <coldpack> sorry... latecome :)
[06:28] <mike1o> !clone
[06:28] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages", move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type "sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade" - See also !automate
[06:28] <coldpack> latecomer, that is
[06:28] <Pici> mcsd: sudo mount whatever.iso /media/somedirectory   you might need to create a directory in /media for it though.
[06:28] <mcsd> !mount
[06:28] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[06:28] <Pici> !iso | mcsd
[06:28] <ubotu> mcsd: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[06:29] <gazuuu> how i go to textmode fron terminal?
[06:29] <gazuuu> from
[06:30] <coldpack> i'm not sure i understand the question gazuuu
[06:30] <gazuuu> to begin the graphic mode is startx
[06:30] <coldpack> right
[06:30] <coldpack> how do you go back to no gui?
[06:30] <gazuuu> to kill the graphic mode i dont remenber
[06:30] <coldpack> well you can ctl-alt-backspace
[06:30] <linuxnooblah> control f2?
[06:31] <Pici> coldpack: ctrl-alt-f1 ?
[06:31] <coldpack> i think that does it without killing shutting the system down
[06:31] <mcsd> Pici: how can i tell if an image is mounted?
[06:31] <linuxnooblah> gazuuu: try control f2 i think
[06:31] <RoundyT1> how can i change permissions of Windows folders on a network...
[06:31] <coldpack> ctl-alt-f1 gives you another console where you'll have to log in, etc
[06:31] <gazuuu> let me see buddy
[06:31] <coldpack> you want to kill the gui?
[06:32] <Agrajag> you probably should have told him how to come back...
[06:32] <Pici> mcsd: navigate to the mountpoint and see if theres anything in there
[06:32] <gazuuu> it isn't
[06:32] <Agrajag> oh
[06:32] <Warbo> linuxnooblah: I followed this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Beryl?highlight=%28beryl%29
[06:32] <gazuuu> i use these command the last week, but i cant remenber
[06:32] <gazuuu> argggg
[06:33] <linuxnooblah> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop?
[06:33] <gazuuu> and i need it
[06:33] <mcsd> Pici: my iso is @ /homt/test/mnt and I mounted using "sudo mount -o loop (filename.iso) /home/test/mnt
[06:33] <gazuuu> is more short than startx
[06:33] <gazuuu> rc???
[06:33] <gazuuu> something like that
[06:33] <linuxnooblah> !rc
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <mcsd> pwd shows I am @ /homt/test/mnt but ls only shows the iso
[06:33] <linuxnooblah> !startx
[06:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about startx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:33] <Warbo> gazuuu: /etc/init.d/gdm stop ?
[06:34] <gazuuu> let me check
[06:34] <Warbo> gazuuu: "killall X"?
[06:34] <Pici> mcsd: You mounted the iso to the same directory as the iso itelf??
[06:34] <crazy_penguin> Bye all!
[06:34] <mcsd> yeah is that bad
[06:34] <gazuuu> both are wrong
[06:34] <Agrajag> mcsd: mountpoints have to be empty directories
[06:35] <PCGenie> hello, I am trying to figure which port my a java-jetty server is running on? I tried nestat but that is narrowing it down enough. any ideas?
[06:35] <coldpack> did you try ctl-alt-backspace?
[06:35] <mattwob> Hi all. Mind if I ask a question here about setting up Beryl on XFCE?
[06:35] <coldpack> I think that does it... but it "might" shut your system down... can't remember
[06:35] <mcsd> Agrajag: do I need to unmount the iso?
[06:35] <Agrajag> gazuuu: log out of whatever GUI you are using. THen press ctrl-alt-F1 to switch to a text console. Then, run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" to stop the graphical login manager
[06:35] <Agrajag> mcsd: if you tried to mount to a non-empty directory it would fail anyway
[06:35] <linuxnooblah> ^
[06:35] <coldpack> yes, agrajag, that'll do it too
[06:36] <coldpack> or should
[06:36] <mcsd> Agrajag: I am assuming the -o loop switch means mount indefinately
[06:36] <gazuuu> thanks man
[06:36] <Agrajag> mcsd: no
[06:36] <Agrajag> mcsd: that means you are mounting a loopback device
[06:36] <gazuuu> it is crtl+alt=F1
[06:36] <Agrajag> such as an ISO file
[06:36] <jburd> Agrajag, I posted that link to confirm whether or not the build-essentials were included on the Desktop CD because you were not sure about it.
[06:36] <jburd> =)
[06:37] <coldpack> mattwob: the beryl project website had GREAT direction on how to do just that... specifically for ubuntu, too
[06:37] <Megaqwerty> Can someone point me towards a tutorial on how to install webdav on ubuntu?
[06:37] <Agrajag> jburd: what link? Was I right?
[06:37] <jburd> Agrajag, yes.  http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu-release/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.list
[06:37] <Kaso> I'm having some problems with my network card, its a wireless, using the acx driver, on the liveCD it works fine, however in my installed version it errors asking for some firmware images,  tiacx111 tiacx111x16
[06:37] <mattwob> colpack... Ta, I have followed that....I have installed XUbunut on the top of Ubuntu. I already had beryl working on Gnome. In XFCE it works OK but my fonts are all tiny in my beryl session.... Any ideas?
[06:37] <Agrajag> jburd: oh good. I hope that guy got it straightened out, he left before saying anything
[06:37] <Balachmar> Hi just a small question I have an intel 950gma graphics card but in my xorg.conf is this right. or should I change something to fully use my card?
[06:38] <coldpack> hmm.
[06:38] <jburd> Agrajag, he's a regular in #python, but he's not there at the moment.  :-)
[06:39] <mattwob> I wonder if its just a DPI setting thats different?
[06:39] <coldpack> and messing with fonts preferences hasn't helped?
[06:39] <theacolyte> Is there a way to mount an FTP site? I.E. if I wanted to use it as a "drive"?
[06:39] <void^> Balachmar: before crossposting your question you should have proofread it.
[06:39] <rdesh> is there a way to quickly cascade the windows on my desktop?
[06:39] <Megaqwerty> can anyone help me install webdav?
[06:40] <mattwob> Well, if I change to size 12 Tahoma in "UI Prefs", thats looking better, but its no way the size 12 I am used to, still small...
[06:40] <rdesh> i want to have half the desktop one window, half the other
[06:40] <Balachmar> void^: yupz sorry to mess things up
[06:40] <billy> greetings fellow feisty fans.
[06:40] <theacolyte> billy: feisty fans are in #ubuntu+1 :)
[06:41] <billy> theacolyte:  oops.
[06:41] <theacolyte> hehe
[06:41] <Balachmar> void^: But then again I still don't have an answer and can't find it on the internet
[06:41] <Warbo> billy: I have heard good things, but am waiting for a stable release before I upgrade
[06:41] <mattwob> hmmm. i think the problem is that my "theme" in XFCE was not loaded. The workaround in gnome was to run gnome-daemon-settings, I wonder what the XFCE equiv is
[06:41] <billy> Warbo:  good thinking.  it'll be worth it.
[06:42] <craigbass1976> I thought broadcom chipsets were supported in the 2.6.178 kernels.  I just installed Ubuntu edgy on my laptop hoping I wouldn't have to do the ndiswrapper runaround, but it's looking like I'll have to.  Anyone have any input?
[06:42] <craigbass1976> 2.6.17 I meant to say
[06:43] <minimec> craigbass1976: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all&keywords=ndiswrapper&sourceid=mozilla-search
[06:43] <ppj> How can I search for a file? like for my xorg.conf
[06:43] <theacolyte> ppj: locate works
[06:43] <ppj> do i have to grep it?
[06:43] <ppj> cool
[06:43] <theacolyte> !locate | ppj
[06:43] <ppj> ty
[06:43] <ubotu> ppj: locate is a command-line file search utility. To make sure its cache is up to date run: sudo updatedb
[06:43] <Warbo> craigbass1976: I had to do ndiswrapper for mine. It doesn't like going down then back up though (if I want it to come up then I usually have to reinstall). I haven't rebooted my laptop in about a week though, so it's not too bad
[06:43] <ppj> awesome
[06:43] <Terrasque> ppj: locate, find
[06:43] <void^> Balachmar: i just think there are some words missing in "I have an intel 950gma graphics card but in my xorg.conf is this right.", so even if i knew about intel graphics cards i would likely be unable to help you.
[06:44] <s0nix> compiz is it more stable than beryl with ATI, XGL, fglrx on edgy?
[06:44] <mattwob> I find beryl way more stable
[06:44] <craigbass1976> Warbo, I just wiped FC5 off the lappy and it worked on that, and I believe I had it running on dapper when I tried that a while ago.  If I can apt-get though, that will make it easier.
[06:44] <Balachmar> void^: Even with you pointing at it, I read it again and misread :) it says i810 :)
[06:45] <craigbass1976> minimec, thanks for those.
[06:45] <ppj> man i cant get beryl working
[06:45] <Balachmar> Hi just a small question I have an intel 950gma graphics card but in my xorg.conf it says i810 is this right. or should I change something to fully use my card?
[06:45] <Warbo> s0nix: depends on the plugins you load. Beryl has the ability to be very unstable, but that's because you can turn on more plugins
[06:45] <busfahrer> Excuse me, Totem displays the "movie" part of the window small and the playlist large, is there any way to get it to remember it if I resize it?
[06:45] <Balachmar> That is the right question then :)
[06:45] <FreeKFC_guy> my window manager is not working in feisty fawn
[06:45] <theacolyte> FreeKFC_guy: #ubuntu+1
[06:45] <FreeKFC_guy> ok
[06:45] <mattwob> Argh! All my font sizes are messed up in XFCE with beryl!!!
[06:45] <Dimensions> Hiya why im getting this message ... sudo: unable to lookup myhostname via gethostbyname()
[06:46] <s0nix> Warbo: atm........ beryl crash sometimes :(