[18:08] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[18:08] <derek_smart> z987k: im not sure
[18:08] <z987k> derek_smart, something broke, but as far as I can tell nothing was changed
[18:08] <chieh> so you can setup your own cloud in your own office?
[18:08] <derek_smart> z987k: wait im confused
[18:09] <Sensiva> Any news about how to fix resolution in Karmic?
[18:09] <MK13> Untouchab1e, have you tried to change to a different tty then "ps -x" look for the PID for X, then run "sudo kill <PID-HERE>"?
[18:09] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305252/
[18:09] <Appiah> I upgraded from Jaunty to Karmic now my Broadcom NetXtreme gigabit ethernet and Intel WiFi Link 5100 is not working anymore, any pointers?
[18:09] <ColtonLee> ow do i get my belkin n wireless adapter to work when windows when ndisgtk shows that the hardware is not present and i have tried rebooting
[18:09] <r3cord> does anyone know how i can recover correct owners/permissions in /usr and it's subfolders without re-installing) (for example sudo is not working)
[18:09] <Lapinux> ais523: i know the full release is a good idea over a beta, just didnt know if "upgrading" from one was a good idea
[18:09] <arun_palal> in epson site there is no scanner driver for ubuntu. Then how can i get it.?
[18:09] <Royall> soreau: anything I can do?
[18:09] <soreau> Royall: Your drivers are broken. Can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log file?
[18:10] <Untouchab1e> hmm.. now "sudo gdm stop" worked.. or it doesnt really work cuz all it does is log me out and throw me back to the login screen :/
[18:10] <erana> r3cord: try vi /etc/sudoers
[18:10] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: can you back that file up and run a command for me
[18:10] <Guest44897> how to install db-devel in ubuntu 9.10 ?
[18:10] <JoeSomebody> little busy in here :) I cant find 9.10 docs, do they exist? I would think https://help.ubuntu.com/
[18:11] <Royall> soreau: http://pastebin.com/d33a2c045
[18:11] <erana> r3cord: chmod -R r2cord:wheel /usr
[18:11] <r3cord> erana: sudo is not setuid anymore beause permissions in /usr are messed up
[18:11] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: sure
[18:11] <grawity> erana: uhh. chmod sets modes, not owner.
[18:11] <dawit> grawity & IdleOne: Now I get it!
[18:11] <Scunizi> arun_palal: check out ... http://support.epson.ru/upload/library_file/11/scanner_linux.pdf
[18:12] <erana> Guest44897: apt-cache search db-devel; if it exists apt-get install dbXXX-devel
[18:12] <derek_smart> Guest44897: ubuntu 9.10 karmic or koala?
[18:12] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: sudo sed -i 's/ubuntu.ipacct.com/us.archive.ubuntu.com/g' /etc/apt/sources.list      ← Run that *after* backing up the original file, then apt-get update and try the release upgrade again
[18:12] <Defcon1> has anyone else had success getting grub2 to recognize windows 7 partitions?
[18:12] <jimmy51_> can a ubuntu system installed in OEM mode be imaged and redepolyed on other machines (with different hardware) after running the "prepare for shipping" app?
[18:12] <soreau> Royall: Can you pastebin the output of 'ls -l /dev/dri/card0' and 'groups'?
[18:12] <arun_palal> thanks, let me try.
[18:12] <erana> r3cord: try running a shell from the CD and reinit the root passwd
[18:13] <Royall> soreau: first: ls: cannot access /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory
[18:13] <codeswing> if you like to point it out .. tell me what are the top 5 best features of karmic
[18:13]  * Blues-Man good blues bye
[18:13] <ripps> Defcon1: first, try `sudo os-prober && sudo update-grub`
[18:13] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: what does the command do?
[18:13] <Guest44897> derek_smart, how to know karmic or koala ?
[18:13] <Royall> soreau: then: root adm dialout fax cdrom tape audio dip video plugdev scanner fuse lpadmin netdev admin sambashare usbfs
[18:13] <dawit> grawity & IdleOne: internet is sort of slooow here and the lines are freezing on my screen; but here's a question how can I install 1)a webcam [logitech] on Ubuntu 2) a ZTE wireless modem 3G?
[18:13] <skysong> Defcon1: http://erickoo.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/how-to-add-vista-partition-to-grub-2-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/
[18:13] <derek_smart> which one should i get for laptops karmic or koala 9.10?
[18:13] <soreau> Royall: Well your DRM is messed up.. did you compile your own kernel or using a different one than the one ubuntu provides?
[18:13] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: that changes all of your apt repos to the one I'm using, which is offering me the opportunity to update to 9.10
[18:14] <DopeGhoti> s/this/that means 'change this to that'
[18:14] <Royall> soreau: I used the update manager to upgrade
[18:14] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: ok thanx
[18:14] <codeswing> if you like to point it out .. tell me what are the top 5 best features of karmic
[18:14] <soreau> Royall: Ok, hang on
[18:14] <gidna> Hi
[18:14] <derek_smart> codeswing: THIS IS NOT ubuntu general electric discussion this is ubuntu SUPORT
[18:14] <derek_smart> codeswing: TAKE your attitude ELSEWHERE
[18:14] <ColtonLee> can someone plz help with my wireless problem
[18:14] <daevski> ripps: I followed that in older os, and I think it might have worked. sudo grub actually loads the grub> bash-like command-line, just like on boot grub command-line.
[18:14] <codeswing> Defcon1: okay
[18:15] <ripps> daevski: good
[18:15] <derek_smart> codeswing: and are you using karmic or koala?
[18:15] <codeswing> derek_smart: should i use ext4 or ext3 ?
[18:15] <Untouchab1e> rofl
[18:15] <daevski> ripps: I'm going to reboot. I might stop back in and let you know :) otherwise I'm reinstalling Ubuntu :-p but thank you anyways!
[18:15] <esperegu_> after upgrading to karmic I don't see all the sound channels anymore in the mixer. And alsamixer gives this error:alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory .... Any suggetions???
[18:15] <codeswing> derek_smart: I am going to install it on my work machine
[18:15] <Untouchab1e> I cant shut down x-server no matter what I do..
[18:15] <Sensiva> !resolution
[18:15] <derek_smart> codeswing: ext4 is faster but ext3 might be slower in amd
[18:15] <gidna> I've installed ubuntu 9.10 and I receive Disk has many bad sectors and to replace it... with the former ubuntu I didn't reiceive anything like this
[18:15] <soreau> Royall: Can you pastebin the output of 'dmesg|grep drm'?
[18:15] <Defcon1> skysong I tried that and still cannot seem to get it to add windows 7, i copied and pasted those lines of code
[18:15] <dmsuperman> So I see that ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't restart X but there is no "dontzap"
[18:15] <dmsuperman> What's the new method to fix that?
[18:15] <erana> Untouchable: killall -9 Xorg/X
[18:15] <derek_smart> erana: NO
[18:16] <niadh> Is ubuntu recommended installing from scratch (as per this bug 453579) cos I am currently manipulating large video files and this bug would really be a pain, is there a fix, does it only occur under certain situations?
[18:16] <derek_smart> erana: ERANA NO
[18:16] <sharp1> How to know it is karamic or kaola ?
[18:16] <DopeGhoti> dmsuperman: gconf-editor
[18:16] <Defcon1> skysong the first line is supposed to be "#! /bin/sh -e" correct?
[18:16] <codeswing> also how is new GDM
[18:16] <dmsuperman> DopeGhoti: What's the key?
[18:16] <DopeGhoti> dmsuperman: one sec, I'll find it
[18:16] <derek_smart> sharp1: uname -a|grep
[18:16] <ColtonLee> can someone plz help with my wireless problem
[18:16] <dmsuperman> DopeGhoti: Much appreciated :)
[18:16] <Royall> soreau: I wish I could-- it's getting difficult to switch between windows with this lag and stuff.. one sec
[18:16] <grawity> Defcon1: I don't think -e is necessary.
[18:16] <h00k> dmsuperman: its in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Options -> Keyboard Layout
[18:16] <DopeGhoti> dmsuperman: I don't know why they killed C-A-Bksp either.
[18:17] <derek_smart> sharp1: is it which one is it
[18:17] <DopeGhoti> dmsuperman: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-enabledisable-ctrlaltbackspace-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic.html
[18:17] <gidna> why Dosn't it work goos as the former?
[18:17] <MK13> does anyone here know how to convert the old menu.lst entry to one accepted by grub2?
[18:17] <FFEMTcJ> What is another key server assides from keyserver.ubuntu.com ?
[18:17] <[B]randon> What's the apt-get command to upgrade your distro?
[18:17] <grawity> FFEMTcJ: pool.sks-keyservers.net
[18:17] <[B]randon> Apt-get dist-upgrade?
[18:17] <dmsuperman> h00k, DopeGhoti: Thanks ^.^
[18:17] <DopeGhoti> dmsuperman: also, what h00k said :)
[18:17] <FFEMTcJ> grawity: thanks.. keyserver.u sucks
[18:17] <DopeGhoti> [B]randon: do-release-upgrade
[18:18] <Defcon1> ripps any other suggestions if that does not work?
[18:18] <sharp1> derek_smart, 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP
[18:18] <[B]randon> thank you DopeGhoti
[18:18] <FFEMTcJ> grawity: is there a list of keyservers somewhere?
[18:18] <derek_smart> sharp1: the 48 means its karmic, koala is faster
[18:18] <Untouchab1e> erana that doesnt work :S
[18:18] <derek_smart> sharp1: get koala
[18:18] <ColtonLee> can someone plz help with my wireless problem
[18:18] <DopeGhoti> [B]randon: that'll be €8 ;)
[18:18] <Royall> soreau:
[18:18] <Royall> [   25.184662] [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
[18:18] <Royall> [   25.203945] [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 on minor 0
[18:18] <freakabcd> hi all
[18:18] <ripps> Defcon1: than you might need to manually add an entry for it... let me do some google
[18:18] <h00k> !ask | ColtonLee
[18:18] <grawity> FFEMTcJ: http://sks-keyservers.net/ has a list of all keyservers linked to the pool. (Including the Ubuntu one.)
[18:18] <[B]randon> How about I get one of my girl-friends to blow you DopeGhoti
[18:18] <freakabcd> are the dvd isos released already?
[18:18] <orudie_> 1734 people in here, wow !!! the most i've seen so far , i wonder if it ever going to get to 2000
[18:18] <sharp1> derek_smart, how can I change it to koala ?
[18:18] <h00k> !ohmy | [B]randon
[18:18] <grawity> FFEMTcJ: but just use pool.* and it'll always work. (That's the entire point of pool, afterall.)
[18:18] <FFEMTcJ> thanks
[18:18] <derek_smart> sharp1: im not sure im new
[18:18] <DopeGhoti> [B]randon: I think my GF would be upset with that idea.  Also, please keep this channel family-friendly.
[18:18] <FFEMTcJ> awesome..
[18:19] <ripps> Defcon1: http://erickoo.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/how-to-add-vista-partition-to-grub-2-ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/
[18:19] <dawit> grawity & IdleOne: thanx but cnxn is really bad; will try again later! g'd nite!
[18:19] <derek_smart> sharp1: a guy told me in ubuntu.com you can download it
[18:19] <z987k> after upgrading to 9.10 I get this error:"Unable to mount location - Failed to retrieve share list from server" when trying to browse the network.
[18:19] <[B]randon> I'm sorry :(
[18:19] <beckerpd> having a problem loading karmic, running 680i motherboard, stalls at white ubuntu symbol any ideas?
[18:19] <erana> sharp1: new CD 10
[18:19] <DopeGhoti> [B]randon: no harm, no foul :)
[18:19] <[B]randon> :D
[18:19] <[B]randon> DopeGhoti, mind helping a noob out some more? :D
[18:19] <ColtonLee> my belkin n wireless adapter doesnt show up in karmic and i have both ndiswrappers and ndisgtk and are working fine but still no wireless after i installed my drivers
[18:19] <DopeGhoti> [B]randon: that's why we're here :) how can we help?
[18:19] <daevski> ripps: That did it. It worked perfect. sudo grub ftw :) -- now I just need to install future versions with no bootlader, right? that would bybass this silly hacking?
[18:19] <sharp1> derek_smart, I am actually trying to install db-devel ! so does it really make difference if it is karmic or kaola ?
[18:19] <[B]randon> I have a logitech USB headset, but for some reason it won't install on ubuntu.
[18:20] <[B]randon> I'm very new to the linux distros, just came over from winbloz.
[18:20] <rafiq> a black shadow is blocking my screen leaving me to forcequit...anyone know how to fix it
[18:20] <rafiq> ?
[18:20] <[B]randon> I have no clue what I'm doing what so ever, any ideas?
[18:20] <DopeGhoti> [B]randon: what happens when you try?
[18:20] <xanwito> hello i a, using my old kernel, how can i fox overheating with the new one? (recently updated to karmic)
[18:20] <z987k> what are the default firewalls installed with 9.10?
[18:20] <sharp1> derek_smart, if it does not make differnce guide me to install db-devel .. !!
[18:20] <soreau> Royall: Well I'm not too sure. Maybe ask in #intel-gfx
[18:20] <DopeGhoti> z987k: if I recall, I think it's ufw
[18:20] <[B]randon> Nothin at all.
[18:20] <derek_smart> sharp1: i dont know what db devel is IM NOT YOUR PERSONAL SUPPORT
[18:20] <DopeGhoti> [B]randon: what model is it?
[18:20] <[B]randon> There is no CD to install, it just automatically installs.
[18:20] <Defcon1> ripps tried that before, but i think i will try again
[18:20] <[B]randon> My headset?
[18:20] <derek_smart> sharp1: i just heard that karmic is slower than koala
[18:20] <erana> xanwito: try the bios
[18:20] <z987k> DopeGhoti, how do you edit things in it, I've never used it?
[18:21] <derek_smart> sharp1: and koala has more useflags rendering
[18:21] <DopeGhoti> derek_smart: karmic *is* koala
[18:21] <derek_smart> sharp1: 90% more rendering koala useflags
[18:21] <eXeC001er> Hello!
[18:21] <vge> karmic lizards o.0
[18:21] <alfatau> hello, i would want to install ubuntu from a USB key, but following instructions i should run an application called usb-creator.exe which should be inside the cd i burned from ISO image. well, that file doesn't exist inside the ISO image so how can i do? i don't have a cdrom drive to install ubuntu from cd. thank you for your attention
[18:21] <ripps> Defcon1: how do you have your system setup, is you windows on the same drive as ubuntu, or is it on a seperate one?
[18:21] <erana> derek_smart: db devel is probably BSD db 4.10 and so on
[18:21] <sharp1> how to install db-devel in ubuntu 9.10 ?
[18:21] <derek_smart> DopeGhoti: thats a common misconception i was told in bsd mailing list that koala is the testing version
[18:21] <DopeGhoti> z987k: I don't know, sorry.. I use shoreline firewall :)
[18:21] <DopeGhoti> !ufw | z987k
[18:21] <roy> Hi! my ubuntu 9.04 is currently using ~20GB in 4 partitions. I want to make a fresh install of the Karmic in that space, in new ext4 partitions. How should I allocate the spaces and what partitions would be idal ... with 2GB RAM?
[18:21] <joaopinto> sharp1, what are you trying to achieve ?
[18:22] <derek_smart> erana: koala is released 6 months like karmic
[18:22] <xanwito> hello i a, using my old kernel, how can i fox overheating with the new one? (recently updated to karmic)
[18:22] <erana> ripps: try net booting if it doens not work, ask again
[18:22] <xanwito> erana: try wath with the bios?
[18:22] <ebtek220> is computer janitor safe to use in 9.10. i've heard that you should just not use it cause it might delete needed data
[18:22] <Berzerker-> roy, you can have ubuntu automatically manage it for you, if you don't need to keep all 4 partitions
[18:22] <eXeC001er> I need to change field "SECTION" for many packages. How can i do it?
[18:22] <ripps> erana: huh?
[18:22] <rafiq> a black shadow is blocking my screen leaving me to forcequit...anyone know how to fix it
[18:22] <ColtonLee> my belkin n wireless adapter doesnt show up in karmic and i have both ndiswrappers and ndisgtk and are working fine but still no wireless after i installed my drivers
[18:22] <rafiq>  ?
[18:22] <Defcon1> ripps 2 Hard drives  HD1: Partition for ubuntu / Partition for windows  HD2: Home Partition for Ubuntu / Home partition for Windows
[18:22] <derek_smart> joaopinto: he is trying to port a 9plan userspace along with brazil the window manager to linux i told him thats impossible
[18:22] <joaopinto> derek_smart, koala was the test version, is the current version now !
[18:22] <jctsunami> Is anyone familiar with the error "Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":1000.0".", I seem to be getting this when I run the eclipse program from an NX client.
[18:22] <derek_smart> joaopinto: thats a common misconception, the hurd has been in testing before koala
[18:22]  * tjuboy a
[18:22] <ironfoot495> erana: ok I downloaded it but how do I get it to come up?
[18:22] <derek_smart> joaopinto: it is a micro kernel rendering
[18:22] <erana> xanwito: try setting the overclocking keys in the bios, for example 400FSB Mhz multiplied by the procerssor core's speed
[18:23] <joaopinto> derek_smart, uh , what are you talking about ? Karmic Koala is Ubuntu 9.10, the current stable version
[18:23] <bsanders> Anyone using VMWare Workstation with Karmic?  I upgraded and now when I start VMware it wants to compile new kernel modules and fails
[18:23] <zouhair> hi, info cat only gives manpage of cat, is there any package that gives the real info file,
[18:23] <h00k> xangua: be very careful setting overclocking
[18:23] <ripps> Defcon1: yeah, what I gave you won't work, because Windows won't boot from a slave drive. You need to trick it into thinking it's on a prime
[18:23] <rafiq> a black shadow is blocking my screen leaving me to forcequit...anyone know how to fix it
[18:23] <rafiq>  ?
[18:23] <derek_smart> joaopinto: look, go to the koala ppa
[18:23] <derek_smart> joaopinto: launchpad.net
[18:23] <xangua> i donn't like ovberclocking :S
[18:23] <igama> bsanders, run VMware has root
[18:23] <joaopinto> derek_smart, that is the context for the current channel
[18:23] <sharp1> joaopinto, trying to install iproute2 .. got error as " arpd.c:19:20: error: db_185.h: No such file or directory"
[18:23]  * xangua wanwito is xangua
[18:23] <roy> Berzerker: I want to delete all the current linux partitions. Would "automatic" be better or a manual one?
[18:23] <h00k> ermac0: why are you telling xangua to overclock?
[18:23] <erana> ironfoot495: I forgot what you asked ?
[18:23] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, Karmic is the current stable version, it was released yesterday.
[18:24] <derek_smart> joaopinto: the context is linux support do not tell me arguements to koala
[18:24] <Defcon1> ripps any suggestions?
[18:24] <IdleOne> derek_smart: the context here is Ubuntu support
[18:24] <h00k> derek_smart: please see the /topic
[18:24] <DopeGhoti> derek_smart: again, Karmic and Koala are _exactly_ the same release.
[18:24] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: he was trying to enable plan 9 support in linux userspace im trying to render koala
[18:24] <ironfoot495> erana: how to get desktop on the new ubuntu 9.10?
[18:24] <IdleOne> #linux for linux support
[18:24] <rafiq> a black shadow is blocking my screen leaving me to forcequit...anyone know how to fix it
[18:24] <rafiq>  ?
[18:24] <DopeGhoti> derek_smart: 9.10 is "Karmic Koala"
[18:24] <Scunizi> bsanders: you need to install the linux headers for your current kernel for vmware to complete..
[18:24] <joaopinto> derek_smart, not realy, the context is UBUNTU support, not linux in general, for that please join #linux
[18:24] <ripps> Defcon1: just a sec, I'm rewriting a script for you.
[18:24] <h00k> derek_smart: stop trolling.
[18:24] <ironfoot495> server
[18:24] <funkiwan> i just upgraded to karmic, and am finding alt+tab switching quite slow. any thoughts on what might be going on, or where to look?
[18:24] <Scunizi> bsanders: sudo apt-get install build-essential may take care of it easily
[18:24] <derek_smart> joaopinto: i was here before trying that
[18:25] <erana> irondfoot495: If you install the x-window-system with apt-get you can add gnome or KDE
[18:25] <derek_smart> joaopinto: grep /etc/rc.d/ ? post the output
[18:25] <subbu> ironfoot495: what do you mean by 'get desktop on the new ubuntu?"
[18:25] <ironfoot495> erana: I'm having a heck of a time figuring that out!!!
[18:25] <erana> subbu: he runs server
[18:25] <subbu> oh ok got it :)
[18:25] <bsanders> thanks, all, I'll get those packages and try again
[18:25] <Laserbeak>  i was an admin, but someone told me it isn't safe to be an admin  and using the PC regularly. so i took myself off the admin group and now sudo doesn't work"daddy is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[18:25] <subbu> i was confused with his question
[18:25] <rafiq> a black shadow is blocking my screen leaving me to forcequit...anyone know how to fix it
[18:25] <rafiq>  ?
[18:25] <h00k> derek_smart: this isn't linux general support, this is the official support channel for Ubuntu Karmic Koala
[18:25] <erana> ironfoot495: try apt-get install gnome-libs or gnome
[18:25] <IdleOne> Laserbeak: put yourself back in the admin group
[18:26] <Berzerker-> Laserbeak, if you're the main user of the computer, being an admin is fine.
[18:26] <xangua> how can i fix overheating¿ updated from jaunty to karmic
[18:26] <Laserbeak> IdleOne: that's safe?
[18:26] <ironfoot495> erana: ok
[18:26] <Laserbeak> and running irc?
[18:26] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: any luck?
[18:26] <derek_smart> h00k: im aware of the title im not sure why you imply im confused with linux main channel
[18:26] <subbu> exit
[18:26] <subbu> q
[18:26] <joaopinto> Laserbeak, being an admin group member is fine, being root is not fine
[18:26] <pvandewyngaerde> if i want to run all my wine programs as a different user, and to disable virusses, is it safe to the setuid  option on the /usr/bin/wine file ?
[18:26] <SnakDoc> subbu: /quit
[18:26] <Laserbeak> oh ok
[18:26] <h00k> derek_smart: You had said before ythat you thoughht it was linux in general
[18:26] <roy>  Berzerker: What would be the ideal partitioning for 20GB space and 2GB RAM?
[18:26] <IdleOne> Laserbeak: is you want sudo to work you must be in the admin group. what is not safe is to run as root all the time
[18:26] <ColtonLee> my belkin n wireless adapter doesnt show up in karmic and i have both ndiswrappers and ndisgtk and are working fine but still no wireless after i installed my drivers
[18:26] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: trying its downloading a lot of files
[18:26] <Berzerker-> Laserbeak, unless you stupidly accept a DCC transfer not knowing with the file is, and put in your password when it asks to run, you'll have no problems
[18:26] <ripps> Defcon1: okay, try this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305267/
[18:26] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: that's promising!
[18:26] <Berzerker-> roy, do you need the other partitions?
[18:26] <rafiq> a black shadow is blocking my screen leaving me to forcequit...anyone know how to fix it
[18:26] <derek_smart> h00k: ... please quote me on this
[18:26] <rafiq>  ?
[18:26] <Laserbeak> hehe ok thx guys
[18:27] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: sounds like your old repos wren't updated after all
[18:27] <roy>  Berzerker: Yes, I have XP and 7 installed :)
[18:27] <xangua> how can i fix overheating¿ updated from nautny to karmic
[18:27] <erana> pvandewyngaerde: yes, but try chown user:wheel
[18:27] <erana> then g+x
[18:27] <grawity> erana: Isn't it :root?
[18:27] <ripps> Defcon1: that should replace 11_windows in grub.d
[18:27] <Berzerker-> roy, I wouldn't have 3 OSs installed on a 20GB hard drive.
[18:27] <xangua> how can i fix overheating¿ updated from jaunty to karmic
[18:27] <nhuisman> hey i'm having problems with 9.10 and the ati drivers for dual head
[18:27] <derek_smart> xangua: nautny is NOT an ubuntu version, you are either trolling or the package has been compromised
[18:27] <joaopinto> xangua, I don't know how, but repeating here will not help for sure
[18:28] <pvandewyngaerde> erana:  who is wheel ?
[18:28] <Defcon1> ripps if the windows partition is partition 3 do i need to change "drivemap -s (hd1,3) $root" ?
[18:28] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: hey man this is what I got http://paste.ubuntu.com/305268/
[18:28] <derek_smart> the offical versions are as follow Jaunty and Karmic and Koala
[18:28] <xangua> derek_smart: i am not trolling, i make a mistake
[18:28] <roy>  Berzerker: 20GB is where currently Jaunty is, I have 750GB in this PC
[18:28] <nhuisman> anyone here using 9.10 and ati and dual head?
[18:28] <erana> pandewyngaerde:
[18:28] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: I think I am missing something i donno what!
[18:28] <erana> pvandewyngaerde: wheel is the root group sort off
[18:28] <bsanders> ok, I checked and I already have build-essential and the linux headers for my kernel installed.  I've tried running it as root as well, and it fails at the same place
[18:28] <DopeGhoti> derek_smart: Karmic Koala is *one* version.  Karmic ≡ Koala.
[18:28] <Scunizi> !anyone | nhuisman
[18:28] <IdleOne> derek_smart: please stop giving wrong answers. if you don't know, stay silent
[18:28] <derek_smart> xangua: that mistake could've easily costed someone else's installation because eveyrthing one says is a point for reference
[18:28] <xangua> and joaopintoi repeated because i misspelling jaunty
[18:28] <derek_smart> IdleOne: prove me wrong idle, prove me wrong i have sources
[18:28] <xangua> ¿¿¿
[18:28] <pvandewyngaerde> erana:  i want to give it less permissions, not more
[18:28] <icehawk78> I've just transplanted a hard drive with 9.04 installed from one computer to another with completely different hardware. Is there anything I need to do in order to have Ubuntu check for new hardware and install the proper drivers, or will it do that all on its own? (ie new graphics, audio, network, etc)
[18:29] <derek_smart> IdleOne: ubuntu.com
[18:29] <xangua> mispelled*
[18:29] <ColtonLee> b elkin n wireless adapter doesnt show up in karmic and i have both ndiswrappers and ndisgtk and are working fine but still no wireless after i installed my drivers
[18:29] <ripps> Defcon1: yeah, what your trying to do is remap the windows boot partition as 0,1
[18:29] <archy008> after upgrading to 9.10 keep getting this error about failing to load the FastUserSwitchApplet.. did anyone else have the same problem?
[18:29] <IdleOne> derek_smart: prove to me your sources are correct
[18:29] <Sashi1> is it possible to use "Desktop Wall" from compiz or something like that without running compiz?
[18:29] <IdleOne> !troll > derek_smart
[18:29] <ripps> Defcon1: actually, wait
[18:29] <erana> pvandewyngaerde : try chmod u-x filename
[18:29] <nhuisman> the problem is, I do aticonfig --initial=dual-head with a base install after ive gone ahead and installed the driver.  The ati control panel doesn't show an option for two  monitors
[18:29] <freeman> icehawk78 check system options
[18:29] <DopeGhoti> Sashi1: if you mean multiple desktops, yes.
[18:29] <gOLDfeesh> Stupid question, but am I going to lose anything doing this update?
[18:29] <derek_smart> !troll > IdleOne
[18:29] <krankzinnig> I just installed 9.10 and when I boot I get the GRUB screen. What do I do??
[18:29] <joaopinto> gOLDfeesh, no
[18:29] <gOLDfeesh> Probably should have asked before doing it.
[18:29] <derek_smart> how does that feel
[18:29] <Scunizi> icehawk78: should do it on its own.. however if the previous computer was ati based and the new one has an nvidia card.. you might have some changes to make manually
[18:29] <derek_smart> jesus
[18:29] <gOLDfeesh> joaopinto, alright thanks.
[18:29] <Berzerker-> roy, ah, I see.
[18:29] <gOLDfeesh> !troll
[18:29] <xangua> how can i fix overheating¿ updated from nautny to karmic and using intel video card
[18:29] <n8tuser> gOLDfeesh-> do a fresh install instead of doing upgrade
[18:30] <derek_smart> im trying to help people and this big jerk keeps attacking me
[18:30] <erana> krankzinnig: hit return :-)
[18:30] <blinkiz> Installed a clean version of Karmic today. Audio does not work out of the box. Headphone does not work at all. Where do I find information how to solve this?
[18:30] <Sashi1> DopeGhoti: i don't mean multiple desktops but mean the method of switching to desktops when the mouse goes to the corner of one desktop
[18:30] <roy>  Berzerker: So...
[18:30] <blinkiz> Has intel hd audio
[18:30] <Berzerker-> roy, if you're not using it as a main OS, I'd give it close to 40-50GB with about 512-1GB of swap space.
[18:30] <joaopinto> !ops | derek_smart playing the troll
[18:30] <pvandewyngaerde> erana:   i dont want a  virus through wine that deletes all my file to delete my linux profile  files
[18:30] <IdleOne> derek_smart: I have read all the factoids the bot knows. please stop acting like a jackass and maybe you can be useful to the people who need help
[18:30] <n8tuser> blinkiz-> google?
[18:30] <DopeGhoti> Sashi1: I recall having that working before, yes, but I don't remember exactly how to set it up
[18:30] <nhuisman> hey i downloaded the 9.10 cd like 3 days ago when it was rc, is the final release now any different?
[18:30] <gOLDfeesh> !manners | derek_smart
[18:30] <Tesssa> makes me feel like your a idiot derek_smart
[18:30] <blinkiz> n8tuser, yeah, give me the keywords then
[18:30] <derek_smart> !whats going on
[18:30] <ripps> I think I wrote it wrong, try this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/305272/
[18:30] <subbu> pvandewyngaerde:you can contain wine
[18:30] <derek_smart> !what the modules
[18:30] <erana> xangua: overheating is fixed by lowering the ,ulitplicator in the bios
[18:30] <krankzinnig> If I hit return, it just makes a new sh:grub> line
[18:31] <n8tuser> blinkiz-> audio ubuntu karmic ?
[18:31] <ColtonLee> my belkin n wireless adapter doesnt show up in karmic and i have both ndiswrappers and ndisgtk and are working fine but still no wireless after i installed my drivers
[18:31] <roy>  Berzerker: I only have this 20GB to spare. All the other drives are almost full :(
[18:31] <icehawk78> Scunizi: I think it might be for that. Anywhere I should look on getting that straightened out?
[18:31] <funkiwan> any ideas on what would cause alt+tab app switching to take over 1 second. i'm not running compiz.
[18:31] <derek_smart> ok we need to come to terms in this because the hurd wont be built in a day with this
[18:31] <xangua> how can i fix overheating¿ updated from jaunt to karmic and using intel video card and is shuting down with no sence
[18:31] <krankzinnig> When I choose Ubuntu from the loader, I get the grub terminal screen
[18:31] <derek_smart> koala and karmic are the same or not
[18:31] <erana> krankzinnig: try boot
[18:31] <Sashi1> DopeGhoti: ow :( do you remember what application you used for it?
[18:31] <krankzinnig> I did, it says no kernel
[18:31] <xangua> erana: you told me something abput overclocking to be able to do that, am i wrong ?
[18:31] <Berzerker-> roy, 20GB is fine, I'm barely using 10. 768MB of swap space should do.
[18:31] <Amaranth> derek_smart: Hurd is something completely different and offtopic for this channel.
[18:31] <DopeGhoti> Sashi1: IIRC, it was just part of GNOME.
[18:31] <n8tuser> ColtonLee-> does it show in dmesg? what does lshw -C network tells you? can you post in pastebin the results?
[18:31] <shankhs> derek_smart: ubuntu 9.10 is codenamed karmic koala
[18:31] <derek_smart> is koala and karmic the same version
[18:32] <shankhs> derek_smart: yes
[18:32] <rosebj> yes
[18:32] <erana> xangua: over or lesser clocking that is
[18:32] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, ...seriously?
[18:32] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, ubuntu.com
[18:32] <subbu> hi derek_smart: yes it is the same
[18:32] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: okay, I'm officially baffled, then :(
[18:32] <pvandewyngaerde> subbu: how would you  contain wine  ?
[18:32] <DopeGhoti> derek_smart: Yes.  Karmic Koala is the successor to Jaunty Jackalope.
[18:32] <derek_smart> well then WHY THE hecks did he tell me it was two different one for laptop one for desktop?
[18:32] <roy>  Berzerker:  Do you recommend creating a /boot? What are the "must-have" ones other that swap and root?
[18:32] <jctsunami> Is anyone familiar with the error "Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":1000.0".", I seem to be getting this when I run the eclipse program from an NX client.
[18:32] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: and I am feeling like a fool it was never a problem since 7.04 and this time its frustrating :(
[18:33] <Scunizi> icehawk78: boot first on the new machine and see what happens.. if it drops you to a terminal then .. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade adn see if it pulls in the needed packages.. editing xorg.conf can be an excersise in futility sometimes.
[18:33] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, whoever did that does not know what they're talking about
[18:33] <DopeGhoti> derek_smart: without knowing who 'he' is what what precisely yo uwere told, it's hard to say.
[18:33] <rosebj> derek_smart,  there is a netbook version and a regular desktop version
[18:33] <trism> derek_smart: you might be thinking about the desktop version and UNR
[18:33] <Defcon1> ripps so the grub2 boots from the /home hard drive?
[18:33] <tck9> i have 2gb ram installed. bios shows 2gb, lshw & dmidecode show 2gb, however when i check with free -m or top it shows only 1gb.
[18:33] <ColtonLee> n8tuser: not in dmesg
[18:33] <tck9> any idea why linux isn't recognizing the full 2gb?
[18:33] <krankzinnig> Can anyone help me? I installed 9.10 clean and all I get is the GRUB command line. "boot" doesn't work, says no loaded kernel
[18:33] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: no, you're not a fool; it's your computer that's being foolish ;)
[18:33] <derek_smart> and the grep is true however? moreso than the hurd ive been trying to render?
[18:33] <subbu> pvadewyngaerde: go to this link, scroll down to wine section and follow the simple instructions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=518012
[18:33] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, regardless of the version, they're all karmic koala. There is desktop version, Ubuntu netbook remix, and 64-bit and 32-bit versions, but they're all karmic koala
[18:33] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: you could try downloading and burning a Karmic CD and using that to upgrade
[18:33] <Berzerker-> roy, just mount it as /, everything will be under /
[18:34] <trijntje> krankzinnig: try to install again? or would that be too troublesome?
[18:34] <Untouchab1e> I dont want anything to happen when I close the laptop lid. Since I have connected the laptop to my TV, I would like to be able to close the laptop lid without the picture on the TV going blank..
[18:34] <Tesssa> ah well even i a puter illiterate know the difference between a laptop and a desk top
[18:34] <Amaranth> derek_smart: Stop talking about hurd.
[18:34] <n8tuser> ColtonLee->  what does lshw -C network tells you? can you post in pastebin the results?
[18:34] <ripps> Defcon1: well, it's configs are, but I probably loaded it's mbr into your 1st harddrive. Not too much of an issue, unless you remove the second second harddrive disapeers
[18:34] <krankzinnig> I guess I am going to have to while I am gone, should I report this?
[18:34] <Untouchab1e> but the Power Management Preferences only lets me select Blank Screen, Suspent, Hibernate or Shutdown
[18:34] <icehawk78> Scunizi: It loads and appears that everything is fine, but the previous machine was an integrated nvidia, and the new one has a dedicated ATI. If the display still comes on, does that mean that drivers were updated and found correctly?
[18:34] <IdleOne> Amaranth: he is just trolling in circles.
[18:34] <derek_smart> it'd be a whole lot easier if ubuntu choose representative names for their releases -- names that could be reflective of the revisions, say, i dont know... something simplistic like 9.10
[18:34] <Untouchab1e> I dont have the option to do nothing :/
[18:34] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, karmic koala is merely a codename
[18:34] <joshyfluff> my sound suddenly stopped working on 9.10, any help?
[18:35] <Untouchab1e> Anyone?
[18:35] <DopeGhoti> derek_smart: "Karmic Koala" is the *codename* for Ubuntu 9.10. Is that what you mean?
[18:35] <th1> derek_smart is a  troll
[18:35] <Berzerker-> he also left.
[18:35] <Defcon1> ripps ok, so is the code you gave me right? or were you going to change something?
[18:35] <shankhs> DopeGhoti: ya thinking of that but gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" isn't working either
[18:35] <Scunizi> icehawk78: looks to be exactly what happened.. you might also look in System>Admin>Hardware drivers and see if anything is listed there.
[18:35] <Tesssa> a marroon one as well
[18:35] <masule> Can I modify the directory name of ~/Ubuntu\ One and still use the Ubuntu One service?
[18:35] <Amaranth> Untouchab1e: blank screen should just turn the screen off
[18:35] <th1> Berzerker, I think he "was left" :)
[18:35] <trijntje> krankzinnig, if you can. But you should try to find out more about the error before filing a bug i think
[18:35] <Tesssa> he left
[18:35] <roy> Berzerker: / and /swap?
[18:35] <Untouchab1e> Amaranth, yes, but it also kills the picture on the TV.. all I get is a black screen after closing the laptop lid
[18:35] <Scunizi> icehawk78: just try doing that on a windows system sometime.. ouch.. how it will complain
[18:36] <joshyfluff> so could anyone help with my sound issue?
[18:36] <ColtonLee> n8tuser: Hardware Lister (lshw) - B.02.14
[18:36] <ColtonLee> usage: lshw [-format] [-options ...]
[18:36] <ColtonLee>        lshw -version
[18:36] <ColtonLee> 	-version        print program version (B.02.14)
[18:36] <ColtonLee> format can be
[18:36] <FloodBot3> ColtonLee: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:36] <ColtonLee> 	-html           output hardware tree as HTML
[18:36] <ripps> Defcon1: I think I just defined the root and remap incorrectly, If your windows is the 3rd partition on your second slave drive, it should work
[18:36] <Amaranth> Untouchab1e: try disabling the screensaver
[18:36] <Scunizi> Untouchab1e: did you figure out how to stop gdm?
[18:36] <erana> jsohyfluff: do ask.
[18:36] <erana> joshyfluff: do ask
[18:36] <icehawk78> Scunizi: Hah, well, it's a media center/web server, and Windows ain't touching anything that's visible to the rest of the world if I have anything to say about it. Plus, Windows would just assume you stole a copy and lock itself down, if you tried doing what I did, lol.
[18:36] <ripps> Defcon1: make sure you run `sudo update-grub`
[18:37] <Defcon1> ripps ok, well I will try messing with it again after class. thanks for the help!
[18:37] <Scunizi> icehawk78: yep! :)
[18:37] <derek_smart> why kick me
[18:37] <Defcon1> ripps i will def check that
[18:37] <n8tuser> ColtonLee->  what does lshw -C network tells you? can you post in pastebin the results?
[18:37] <joshyfluff> erana: this is my 2nd day of having 9.10 installed and already the sound has stopped working. i think it is to do with login as the sounds are skippy and only the drums play, not the login sound;.
[18:37] <icehawk78> Scunizi: Either way, mostly just wanted to make sure there wasn't anything obvious I was missing that needed to be done. Next step is upgrading to 9.10
[18:37] <derek_smart> wait who kicked me look im trying to install this thing a ma gig
[18:38] <skysong> will 5.1 sound work out of the box with 9.10?
[18:38] <trijntje> derek_smart, what are you trying to do?
[18:38] <skysong> anyone?
[18:38] <derek_smart> where is ubuntu-general whats the channel for general ubuntu discus
[18:38] <joaopinto> !ot | derek_smart
[18:38] <Untouchab1e> Amaranth, doesnt help
[18:38] <ColtonLee> oh well
[18:38] <yancho> any one can please help me get firefox to see my plugins please? i am on firefox 3.5.4 and the guys from #firefox told me to speak with you guys due to problem with path
[18:38] <derek_smart> im trying to install this and everyone is kicking me or one guy was
[18:38] <n8tuser> ColtonLee->  what does lshw -C network tells you? can you post in pastebin the results?
[18:38] <ellar> using the new karmic: where to tell xorg to use the fglrx driver, theres no more an /etc/X11/xorg.con!
[18:38] <IdleOne> !appeal | derek_smart
[18:38] <Scunizi> icehawk78: backup backup backup... if you have a seperate /home that will make it easier.. personally I haven't had much success using the "upgrade" path.. I typically just install fresh using my old  /home ..
[18:38] <joaopinto> skysong, sound is not my expertise, but I guess it depends on the audio card model
[18:39] <derek_smart> im using a netbook and a desktop i just want to make sure i have the correct cd for the laptop
[18:39] <CPrgmSwR2> No sound on kubuntu 9.10
[18:39] <n8tuser> ellar-> no /etc/X11/xorg.conf exist?  am justcurious
[18:39] <roy> Berzerker: u gone?
[18:39] <Amaranth> ellar: System->Administration->Hardware Drivers does it for you
[18:39] <joshyfluff> no sound on my ubuntu 9.10 either
[18:39] <boojit> so i think i am dumb and just need someone to confirm. I downloaded the 9.10 desktop iso and i figured i could also use it to upgrade an existing 9.04 installation -- but it looks like you can only do this with the alternate iso, is this correct?
[18:39] <CPrgmSwR2> is anyone else having this issue
[18:39] <igama> derek_smart, the DesktopCD can be used on the laptop, its just a name
[18:39] <skysong> joaopinto: thanks.. i had quite a bit of trouble trying, in vain, to have the 5.1 working in other distros, thats why im asking.
[18:39] <CPrgmSwR2> n8tuser: 9.10 removed xorg.conf
[18:39] <joaopinto> boojit, yes, that is correct
[18:39] <trijntje> derek_smart, if you have a low end laptop (ie. netbook) you should use Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[18:39] <IdleOne> boojit: correct
[18:39] <ellar> Amaranth, i tried, but there's nothing in the list!
[18:39] <Amaranth> boojit: Right, the live cd can only do new installs
[18:39] <roy> Damn... :(
[18:39] <derek_smart> igama: then why did someone told me the unr
[18:39] <CPrgmSwR2> joshyfluff: what sound card
[18:39] <n8tuser> CPrgmSwR2-> replaced with what?
[18:39] <icehawk78> Scunizi: Yep. I was actually moving from a laptop to a desktop, so the "backup" is already made when I imaged the drive to get it onto the other hard drive. I mostly just don't want to have to reconfigure apache and ruby again.
[18:39] <skysong> BUT it did owrk fine with 9.04
[18:39] <joaopinto> skysong, you could try with the livecd first
[18:39] <shankhs> why isnt gksu "sh /cdrom0/cdromupgrade" this working
[18:40] <skysong> work*
[18:40] <ellar> Amaranth, should i reinstall the restricted-driver manager?
[18:40] <Amaranth> ellar: What video card?
[18:40] <DopeGhoti> shankhs: aha, I just saw that to do an upgrade from CD, you need the 'alternate install CD'; is that the one you have?
[18:40] <boojit> ah awesome. I figured i was dumb. So that's what you get for downloading first and asking questions later
[18:40] <Scunizi> icehawk78: don't blame you a bit
[18:40] <CPrgmSwR2> n8tuser: I don't quite recall but it was being discussed in #kubuntu
[18:40] <igama> derek_smart, the UNR is for NETBOOKS, low end laptops, those small ones like Asus EEE.
[18:40] <joaopinto> skysong, so it whould work fine, unless there is a regression :\
[18:40] <ellar> Amaranth, ATI Technologies Inc M22 [Mobility Radeon X300]
[18:40] <derek_smart> igama: i have a msi wind netbook not a asus
[18:40] <joshyfluff> CPrgmSwR2, i have no sound any more, my sound card i dunno but i will find out in a sec, it should work as i have had ubuntu installed on this d610 since 8.04
[18:40] <boojit> thanks joaopinto, IdleOne, Amaranth
[18:40] <Amaranth> ellar: fglrx only supports RadeonHD cards, you want to use the open source driver (which was setup automatically)
[18:40] <zakwilson> Following auto-upgrade, I have no video acceleration. Should I try it with no xorg.conf before doing further troubleshooting?
[18:40] <roy> Somebody please tell me what would be the ideal partitioning for Karmic on 20GB space and 2GB RAM...
[18:40] <skysong> joaopinto: yeah;) doesn't think there.. ive tried 9.04 years after the other ubuntu i used.. way beyond my imagination
[18:40] <quentusrex> Anyone know what happened to the game freecell????
[18:40] <Amaranth> zakwilson: If you don't use fglrx or nvidia then yes, try without xorg.conf
[18:40] <n8tuser> CPrgmSwR2-> generically is it going away from using X11 ?
[18:41] <IdleOne> boojit: you can pass the live cd on to a friend
[18:41] <skysong> so ill give it a go:)
[18:41] <trijntje> derek_smart, http://www.canonical.com/projects/ubuntu/unr
[18:41] <igama> ellar, your graphic card is not supported by ATI anymore, there are no more drivers to install. You use the ones Ubuntu already is using.
[18:41] <Scunizi> roy: 6 gigs for root "/", 1 gig swap .. the rest for /home
[18:41] <zakwilson> roy: there is no ideal.
[18:41] <n8tuser> roy trial and error to suits your needs
[18:41] <CPrgmSwR2> n8tuser: I am not sure
[18:41] <raven_> hi - which system (like clusterknoppix) would you take for a load-balacing-cluster of a few machines?
[18:41] <igama> derek_smart, so, use the UNR if you have a netbook
[18:41] <Berzerker-> roy, sorry, 19.3GB for / and 700MB for swap is ideal
[18:41] <Berzerker-> roy, everything will be under /
[18:41] <derek_smart> igama: is it compatible with msi and asus?
[18:41] <ellar> igama, yes under 9.04 i had 3d accel and now i don't have so i want to find the right...
[18:41] <igama> derek_smart, yes
[18:41] <woble> Karmic: display dim doesnt work anyone knows a fix?
[18:42] <n8tuser> Berzerker-> not ideal, have /home in a separate partition
[18:42] <DopeGhoti> ellar: System -> Hardware Drivers
[18:42] <Amaranth> woble: intel graphics?
[18:42] <xlq> Is there an alternative to Alt+F2 to view the boot messages?
[18:42] <woble> Yes
[18:42] <igama> ellar, you need to make a special config. there are no more driveres from ATI for you.
[18:42] <Berzerker-> n8tuser, unnecessary
[18:42] <xlq> Since Alt+F2 no longer works.
[18:42] <woble> Amaranth yes
[18:42] <Amaranth> woble: is this a macbook? :)
[18:42] <ellar> DopeGhoti, is empty and shows nothing
[18:42] <derek_smart> igama: is it compatible with Intel brand graphics?
[18:42] <woble> No, HP Compaq
[18:42] <n8tuser> xlq try ctrl+alt+f1 to f4 to see which console it uses
[18:42] <Amaranth> woble: ah, well it may be the same 'fix'
[18:42] <igama> ellar, look in the forum or google for "Ubuntu Karmic x300"
[18:42] <Tesssa> someone shoot him
[18:42] <Halitech> roy, I've got a 20gig / (over kill) and I've installed a lot of apps and I'm still only using 4.5gig
[18:42] <woble> Probably since its a realyl general PC
[18:43] <igama> derek_smart, the UNR is Ubuntu Karmic but with a special interface for netbooks.
[18:43] <roy> Berzerker: If I allocate around 4GB for swap, would that be more stable/fast?
[18:43] <k0rupted> anyone know of a good wifi strength monitor? ... not just pretty bars but the actual signal strength?
[18:43] <ripps> ellar: have tried installing an updated mesa (3d stuff) from the ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates ppa?
[18:43] <innomen> I have a strange problem, i reinstalled my machine a lost an app i downloaded and i cant recall the name of it, it was a video audio capture utility, can yuo guys just start naming some off? i'll know it when i see it, it has a white little webcam icon if that helps
[18:43] <xlq> n8tuser: ok, right. Well, I'll probably disable it, since it just shows a useless white Ubuntu logo. But I can't understand this new-fangled GRUB configuration :\
[18:43] <raven_> hi - which system (like clusterknoppix) would you take for a load-balacing-cluster of a few machines?
[18:43] <k0rupted> signal strength*
[18:43] <n8tuser> Berzerker-> not true, if you ever have to recover, having the /home in a separate partition is nice
[18:43] <CPrgmSwR2> Oh My gosh
[18:43] <Amaranth> woble: Try adding "nomodeset" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and rebooting
[18:43] <joshyfluff> i'm gonna try analog stereo duplex
[18:43] <derek_smart> igama: i have a msi netbook with Intel brand graphics is it compatible with the graphics sub-system?
[18:43] <CPrgmSwR2> This room is freaken busy
[18:43] <DopeGhoti> innomen: cheese is the only one I can think of
[18:43] <Amaranth> woble: oh, wait, before you reboot you have to run `sudo update-grub`
[18:43] <igama> derek_smart, yes
[18:43] <Berzerker-> n8tuser, I didn't say it was bad, I said it was unnecessary
[18:43] <grawity> last CPrgmSwR2
[18:43] <grawity> errr.
[18:43] <n8tuser> xlq-> i dont know about the newest 9.10 am assuming you have a choice
[18:44] <derek_smart> igama: is it compatible with intel HD audio Realtek codec?
[18:44] <innomen> DopeGhoti, it was one not in the repos
[18:44] <woble> Wil give it a shot Amaranth tnx :)
[18:44] <Berzerker-> roy, so you can do 5GB for /, 14 for /home and 1 for swap
[18:44] <igama> derek_smart, try it.
[18:44] <innomen> does anyone know where i could find an aexhastive list of webcam capture software?
[18:44] <CPrgmSwR2> grawity: what?
[18:44] <Tesssa> only one way to find out derek_smart is to instakk it
[18:44] <Amaranth> xlq: remove "splash" from GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and run `sudo update-grub`
[18:44] <hellyes> can I load my nVidia GeForce drivers on ubuntu?
[18:44] <grawity> CPrgmSwR2: Nothing.
[18:44] <Halitech> innomen, motion is good
[18:44] <Berzerker-> hellyes, hell yes.
[18:44] <derek_smart> igama: I dont want to try it because first i have to know the compatibles
[18:44] <igama> derek_smart, like i said, Ubuntu UNR = Ubuntu Karmic Desktop with diferente interface.
[18:44] <DopeGhoti> innomen: it's in 'universe'; have you that repo enabled?
[18:44] <Amaranth> hellyes: System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[18:44] <derek_smart> igama: else i get problems
[18:44] <igama> derek_smart, it is compatible
[18:44] <Amaranth> hellyes: That'll do it for you
[18:44] <dragon> There was an interactive `screen` program on Jaunty desktop. What package provides that?
[18:44] <MasterofPuppets> Hey guys, I'm setting up a dualboot for Vista and Ubuntu. Ubuntu's already installed, so I'm partitioning a drive for Vista; it has to be Fat32 right?
[18:44] <innomen> DopeGhoti, no no, the one i want is not in the repo
[18:44] <th1> derek_smart, try a live cd and see if it works or not
[18:44] <hellyes> thanx!
[18:44] <IdleOne> igama: save yourself the aggravation, he is trolling
[18:45] <xlq> Amaranth: hmm, odd, it's lilo-ish now? :P
[18:45] <DopeGhoti> dragon: byobu
[18:45] <Scunizi> hellyes: update your system and look in System>Admin>hardware drivers and see if there is an Nvidia driver waiting to be activated.
[18:45] <Tesssa> i have loaded my nvidia drivers on xubuntu
[18:45] <gerzel> Hey I got a dual boot machine and want to use a font that's available on the windows side but not on linux side.  Anyone know where I should put this font in Ubuntu and does anyone know off the top of their head where windows stores its fonts?
[18:45] <ellar> i will look thanks fo the hints
[18:45] <ais523> MasterofPuppets: no, NTFS
[18:45] <innomen> Halitech, will it capture audoo and video at the same time?
[18:45] <sammy> is it possible to use the alternate-iso cd to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 *without* using the update-manager gui?
[18:45] <Amaranth> xlq: something like that
[18:45] <K4nkr0> สวัสดีครับ
[18:45] <derek_smart> th1: i have to know first which one to try
[18:45] <MasterofPuppets> ais523: Alright, thank you very much!
[18:45] <roy> Berzerker: Would 4GB swap be of any good? And the rest / ?
[18:45] <innomen> Halitech, and is it gui
[18:45] <Tesssa> using the now and they work fine
[18:45] <derek_smart> th1: UNR or Karmic Koala
[18:45] <joaopinto> MasterofPuppets, no, linux handles ntfs just fine
[18:45] <Halitech> innomen, not sure on audio, I think its just for video and no, runs from the cli
[18:45] <Amaranth> sammy: You could add the cd to /etc/apt/sources.list manually but what is wrong with the update-manager UI?
[18:45] <DopeGhoti> roy: 4GB swap sounds a touch excessive, but it won't do any harm
[18:45] <cxo> Whats the ubuntu equivalent of, rpm -qil [installed_package_name], it basically lists all the files in a package thats installed on the system
[18:45] <libtech> i upgraded to 9.10 from 9.04 netbook remix, maximus is not maximizing the windows properly (i can still see the title bar at the top of each window), also, icons are really jumbled in the netbook launcher
[18:45] <raven_> which distri/system easily builds up a performance-cluster?
[18:45] <Scunizi> roy: 4 gigs of swap is overkill.. unless you're doing lots of video production
[18:45] <innomen> hehe then its not good
[18:45] <joaopinto> th1, igama , please ignore derek_smart  he is trolling
[18:45] <th1> derek_smart, it doesn't matter much as one can be converted to the other after the event
[18:45] <dragon> DopeGhoti: thanks.
[18:45] <dragon> byobu is installed on this karmic server, but the interactive thing wouldn't show up. ideas?
[18:46] <DopeGhoti> cxo: apt-cache -L pagkagename
[18:46] <woble> amaranth I dont have an /etc/default/grub ^^
[18:46] <sammy> Amaranth: I'm trying to upgrade an ubuntu-server install which doesn't have X.
[18:46] <igama> joaopinto, yep just noticed that...
[18:46] <zakwilson> So things are improved with no xorg.conf (it doesn't take seconds for text I type to appear) but still no direct rendering.
[18:46] <Berzerker-> roy, swap space more than the amount of RAM you have is not useful
[18:46] <zakwilson> http://pastebin.com/m5b18b8c0 <-- Xorg.0.log
[18:46] <joshyfluff> ok, my sound problem is fixed. CPrgmSwR2, are you still having problems?
[18:46] <MasterofPuppets> joaopinto: Alright, cool. Do you know how much Vista needs, ideally? I'm only thinking of giving it about 30 gigs...
[18:46] <innomen> jesus i couldent have picked a worse time, release yesterday
[18:46] <Amaranth> sammy: Oh, try do-release-upgrade
[18:46] <DopeGhoti> dragon: rename or remove your ~/.screenrc and rerun byobu
[18:46] <CPrgmSwR2> joshyfluff: yep
[18:46] <CPrgmSwR2> joshyfluff: yep
[18:46] <derek_smart> th1: im going to try and install a Lightweight system
[18:46] <woble> MasterofPuppets 30 is enough for Vista
[18:46] <subbu> pvandewyngaerde:did it help?
[18:46] <innomen> thanks for the help guys, good luck :)
[18:46] <Amaranth> sammy: Dunno if it has a system for adding the CD though
[18:46] <joaopinto> MasterofPuppets, no idea, that would be a question for #windows ;)
[18:46] <ripps> roy: you want your swap to be greater than or equal to your amount of ram
[18:46] <joshyfluff> CPrgmSwR2, PM me
[18:46] <th1> derek_smart, then install Windows 3.1
[18:46] <woble> MasterofPuppets I run vista on 25GB
[18:46] <K4nkr0> Hello
[18:46] <IdleOne> joaopinto: it is a shame that someone who has enough time to troll does not spend it helping others.
[18:46] <MasterofPuppets> woble: How much does the OS itself take up?
[18:47] <xlq> Hmm. Ubuntu One hasn't worked once yet for me.
[18:47] <sammy> Amaranth: I'm not sure either :) thanks for that suggestion, though. that is the way to do it from a server install, but I was trying to download a torrent and keep the load off the poor, overloaded mirrors :)
[18:47] <ripps> ripps: rule of thumb, use 1.5-2x the amount of you ram
[18:47] <trijntje> derek_smart, UNR stands for Ubuntu Netbook Remix, its for netbooks. The lates version of UNR is Karmic Koala
[18:47] <derek_smart> th1: im trying to install an Ubuntu Karmic Koala Lightweight Systems
[18:47] <woble> MasterofPuppets roughly 10GB
[18:47] <roy> I see. So 2GB swap would be most stable/fast?
[18:47] <CPrgmSwR2> joshyfluff: I used the beta disc to upgrade, so I have been with this problem for a while
[18:47] <Scunizi> xlq: try it with a browser and see if you have success
[18:47] <woble> MasterofPuppets taking the error logs and other shit in account 15 GB
[18:47] <Berzerker-> roy, you don't even need that much, 1GB will be fine.
[18:47] <juststopedforcou> anyone run 9.10 remix on Acer AO751h?
[18:47] <igama> PPL pls remember this when helping someone with an ATI : ATI does not support Graphic card < H2000, there are no more proprietary drivers, So restricted drivers has no drivers for then. THe only drivers are the opensource that Ubuntu is already using.
[18:47] <CPrgmSwR2> Joshyfluff Hi
[18:47] <Shikaku> Quick question, I just booted up after a bad boot that froze linux to a black screen, where can I get error logs?
[18:47] <ripps> !who | roy
[18:48] <th1> Shikaku, /var/log/syslog
[18:48] <derek_smart> roy: swap should be twice as ram because when you hibernate it makes an image of ram in the swap partition
[18:48] <igama> Shikaku, /var/log/
[18:48] <Halitech> igama, that started way back when 9.04 was released, you would think people would know by now
[18:48] <roy> I play lots of HD stuff, and do multitasking, like downloading torrents, video chatting etc
[18:48] <MasterofPuppets> woble: So if I want to fit my music and shiz on there as well, 40 gigs should be fine?
[18:48] <th1> Shikaku, but if it crashed hard it may not have saved the end of the logs
[18:48] <matu> hi
[18:48] <cxo> I want to play alienarena, but i'm on 64bit ubuntu. And it complains about missing 32bit libs
[18:48] <wildc4rd> evenin' all
[18:48] <th1> MasterofPuppets, it very muhc depends how much music and shiz you have ;)
[18:48] <woble> MasterofPuppets reserve 15GB for the system and add whatever you need
[18:48] <derek_smart> Halitech: there are a lot of versions
[18:48] <Berzerker-> roy, swap space only helps if you're performing heavy operations
[18:49] <Berzerker-> roy, downloading a torrent doesn't do swap space useage
[18:49] <Halitech> cxo, install is32-libs (I think its called)
[18:49] <woble> MasterofPuppets just take into account you cant access linux drives from vista, but you can access vista from linux
[18:49] <igama> cxo get the alienarena for 64bits, or did you install with apt-get ?
[18:49] <MasterofPuppets> woble: I'll just partition it to 50 for safety's sake
[18:49] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: that is not true, swap is also needed for hibernation
[18:49] <Berzerker-> roy, neither does multitasking anything
[18:49] <dragon> DopeGhoti: there is no ~/.screenrc
[18:49] <ripps> roy: I have 1gig of ram, and I don't even use my swap, I turn it off most of the time. What you described don't use up too much memory.
[18:49] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: stop confusing people
[18:49] <sammy> Amaranth: thanks again.
[18:49] <Halitech> derek_smart, alot of versions of what?
[18:49] <nicklas_> hello, there seems to be something wrong with ubuntu-restricted-extras / flash ... i can watch flash and all, but when i want to jump in the clip or change volume or something, i cant click in the flash window?
[18:49] <cxo> igama, i didnt realise it was in the repos, i'll try
[18:49] <roy> Berzerker: HD videos + video chat?
[18:49] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, ...I didn't say it wasn't used for anything.
[18:49] <MasterofPuppets> woble: that's fine, I just need it to run certain programs.
[18:49] <derek_smart> Halitech: of Ubuntu
[18:49] <hyakuhei> Eeep, I updated a few days ago (stable) just rebooted and X is a little broken, doesn't detect the screen size correctly
[18:49] <th1> derek_smart, stop telling other people what stuff when you know next to nothing yourself and troll constantly
[18:49] <dragon> DopeGhoti: isn't byobu supposed to provide one?
[18:49] <Shikaku> i'm not sure how bad it crashed th1.  it happens randomly at bootup, where it just goes into a black screen as if it's on a screensaver mode with the monitor off and no buttons work
[18:49] <Halitech> derek_smart, I know
[18:49] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: well he will use it if he hibernates
[18:49] <cxo> igama, its not in the repos
[18:49] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, I didn't say that he didn't.
[18:49] <xlq> Crumbs, looks like it might be working
[18:49] <cantigas> For 9.10 live usb install, I want to set aufs and root fs as noatime, any ideas/hints/ptrs?
[18:49] <derek_smart> th1: swap is used for hibernation
[18:49] <ripps> roy: in fact swap just slows things down, it's meant to be used in case you run out of ram
[18:49] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, try reading, thanks.
[18:49] <nicklas_> im on 9.10 btw
[18:50] <raven_> which distri/system easily builds up a performance-cluster?
[18:50] <igama> cxo, apt-cache search alien arena
[18:50] <igama> alien-arena - Standalone 3D first person online deathmatch shooter
[18:50] <Berzerker-> roy, nope, video chatting is just internet.
[18:50] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: swap is used for hibernation it must be as equal or more than ram
[18:50] <Shikaku> karmic btw, and it started on karmic, never happened before in jaunty
[18:50] <woble> amaranth I dont have an /etc/default/grub but I also dont have grub 2.0 (came from Jaunty) could that be the problem?
[18:50] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, that's not true.
[18:50] <th1> derek_smart, I know but "stop confusing people" is a bit rich coming from a troll
[18:50] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: it is
[18:50] <yancho> any one can please help me get firefox to see my plugins please? i am on firefox 3.5.4 and the guys from #firefox told me to speak with you guys due to problem with path
[18:50] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, only if you're using all of your RAM.
[18:50] <roy> ripps: So when does large swap actually help?
[18:50] <cxo> igama, how do i know which version that is, before installing it?
[18:50] <joaopinto> ripps, swap does not slows things down unless it's nedded, which means you don't have enough RAM :)
[18:50] <zakwilson> I have another more minor problem as well: synclient no longer accepts a RightEdge value less than 1751. It now claims: X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
[18:50] <xlq> yancho: which plugins?
[18:50] <Amaranth> woble: ah, in that case you have to edit /boot/grub.cfg or whatever
[18:50] <pjman> I'm trying to add a PPA along with the PPA's key from a terminal. My works network blocks the traffic to do this so I’m trying to route my traffic over a SSH/SOCKS proxy. Earlier today grawity pointed me towards tsocks. That got me further as I’m able to retrieve the proxy nat’ed IP from whatismyip.com in the terminal window. The PPA / key add is still failing with “keyserver timed out”. Any ideas?
[18:50] <Berzerker-> roy, lots of video converstions
[18:50] <archy008> can somebody tell me please how to fix the bug with the xubuntu splashscreen and gdm login screen that I get on startup after updating to Ubuntu 9.10
[18:50] <th1> Berzerker, he is in fact right that swap partition is used for hibernate
[18:50] <Amaranth> woble: don't remember the file name exactly
[18:50] <Dovydas> 9.10 Remix is running verrrryyyy slow on Acer 751h. Any ideas?
[18:50] <igama> cxo look in synaptic
[18:50] <woble> k
[18:51] <Berzerker-> th1, I didn't say it wasn't.
[18:51] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: are you suggesting that he should keep tabs on his ram usage before hibernating?
[18:51] <rogerrei1> Hey guys!, I am having a problem with my 9.10: when i enter the youtube , i click the player but nothing happens, i have the flash player plug in to firefox.
[18:51] <woble> but is Grub 2.0 worth upgrading to?
[18:51] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: because thats not good advice
[18:51] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, you're never going to use 100% ram
[18:51] <K4nkr0> how to install amsn
[18:51] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, again, stop trolling.
[18:51] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: ...thats an assumption
[18:51] <joaopinto> pjman, I believe there is a problem with ubuntu's keyserver
[18:51] <yancho> xlq,  no plugins found at all .. they are all in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and in /usr/lib/firefox* [i have some versions] all are soft linking to that folder
[18:51] <th1> K4nkr0, sudo aptitude amsn
[18:51] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: using 100% ram is perfectly viable situation...
[18:51] <roy> Berzerker: I don't do conversion in linux, but what if I want to record a live chat?
[18:51] <robertj> my dog chewed my bluetooth USB dongle into itty-bitty-bits, anyone want to put in their 2c as to a good brand that will play nice in both Karmic and Windows?
[18:51] <Scunizi> rogerrei1: you might have the plugin but do you have flash installed?  if not go to adobe and get the latest .deb
[18:51] <xlq> Wheey! Ubuntu One worked!
[18:51] <ripps> roy: if your doing things that take up alot of memory, like video/sound/graphic editing. If you just playing multimedia, it doesn't tend to take up as much memory as editing them
[18:51] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, no...it's not. if you use 100% RAM, you need more RAM.
[18:51] <th1> robertj, MSI
[18:51] <dragon> `screen` is different from `byobu` now. Anyone aware of this change? Any documentation?
[18:52] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: fact is that swap must be as large as ram to guarantee proper hibernation
[18:52] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, I have 2GB of RAM and 500MB of swap, and my hibernate works fine all the time.
[18:52] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: that doesnt keep him from using it to that extent
[18:52] <igama> derek_smart, bull shit :)
[18:52] <joaopinto> Berzerker, actually linux tries to use 100% of your RAM, if is not needed for apps, it's used for caching :)
[18:52] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, again, stop trolling thanks.
[18:52] <robertj> th1, know if it is generally available retail anywhere in the US?
[18:52] <DopeGhoti> dragon: how can I help you with byobu?
[18:52] <wsch> if i want to install ubuntu 9.10 but i want to have grub ONLY on my partition, and start grub with BCD, how would i do it?
[18:52] <Berzerker-> joaopinto, sure, but caching isn't used in hibernation
[18:52] <wsch> i tried just selecting my partition at the last window you get
[18:52] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: suggesting that he should buy more ram instead of increasing swap is kinda not productive
[18:52] <wsch> when installing
[18:52] <th1> robertj, no I'm in Europe but a google products search should find one
[18:52] <roy> ripps: I do do photo editing... on multi-layered RAW files
[18:52] <wsch> but that doesnt weem to work
[18:52] <pjman> joaopinto: thanks! Is there a way to query the keyserver from a browser to see if it's up or does it not accept browser traffic?
[18:52] <IdleOne> Berzerker: He will disagree with you until he is wrong then agree with you until you are wrong and never stop until you stop feeding him
[18:52] <grawity> pjman: Use pool.sks-keyservers.net
[18:52] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, again, stop trolling thanks.
[18:52] <Shikaku> wsch, do you have multiple hard drives?
[18:52] <joaopinto> pjman, no idea, just saw another people complaining about the keyserver
[18:52] <ripps> dragon: screen can be called the vanilla of byoubu. byoubo is just a complex screen setup
[18:52] <Berzerker-> IdleOne, I'll just keep telling him that
[18:53] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: read the hibernation documentation you are clearly the one trolling because swap and hibernation works this way
[18:53] <igama> derek_smart, again you are wrong. I even disable swap on some computers. more ram is the best solution
[18:53] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, again, stop trolling thanks.
[18:53] <Tesssa> why don't you just ban him
[18:53] <dupondje> can somebody try printing from flash ? does it show printers ?
[18:53] <derek_smart> igama: we are talking about hibernation
[18:53] <pjman> grawity: great - I'll try that. BTW - tsocks is a neat tool. Thanks again!
[18:53] <ripps> roy: yes, so having some swap on hand is probably a good idea
[18:53] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, you're pulling things out of your ass, derek_smart, again, stop trolling thanks.
[18:53] <joaopinto> pjman, http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/ , but hum, it looks up to me
[18:53] <wsch> Shikaku, nope just one, this is a laptop
[18:53] <wsch> Shikaku, AHCI is turned on should that mather
[18:53] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: it is a fact that the compressed hibernation image resides on swap...
[18:54] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: unless you use tuxonice but that requires patching the kernel
[18:54] <n8tuser> derek_smart-> look into tmpfs.. this may give you a clue as an alternative to swapping into a hd
[18:54] <Tesssa> leave it out derek smart
[18:54] <roy> ripps: So you think 2GB swap wouldn't be overkill?
[18:54] <Tesssa> please
[18:54] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: n8tuser hibernation does not work that way
[18:54] <ctmjr> !stop | derek_smart
[18:54] <ripps> roy: how much ram do you have?
[18:54] <IndyGunFreak> roy, not really...  i believe the general rule of thumb for swap, is 1.5-2x your physical ram
[18:54] <roy> ripps: 2GB
[18:54] <igama> IndyGunFreak, that is a old rule.
[18:54] <dragon> DopeGhoti: I was trying to invoke `byobu` by running `screen`, and was completely unaware of http://dustinkirkland.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/byobu-2-8-change-in-launch-behavior/ . I think I'm good now; wouldn't mind recommendations regarding a usable setup for a non-techie friend.
[18:54] <Shikaku> wsch, can't really help you then... sorry
[18:54] <Berzerker-> IndyGunFreak, swap more than the amount of RAM you have is not necessary.
[18:54] <derek_smart> n8tuser: hibernation image must reside in hdd not it ram... otherwise it would be suspend to ram
[18:54] <joaopinto> igama, which stills makes sense :)
[18:55] <wsch> Shikaku, no problem thanx fro trying
[18:55] <ripps> roy: I'd probably up it to 3gb, especially if you ever want to use the hibernation function
[18:55] <IndyGunFreak> Berzerker, fine with me, thats why i said i believe...
[18:55] <joaopinto> anyway, swap sizing is a debaable question, let's not go over it here
[18:55] <Berzerker-> roy, anything more than 1GB is not necessary.
[18:55] <kwagga1> Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen all the way from a stormy Pretoria
[18:55] <roy> IndyGunFreak: I thought that too, but folks here seem to be telling me quite the opposite. I'm really confused
[18:55] <derek_smart> joaopinto: a sizable swap is necesary for proper hibernation.... it is a relevant suggestion
[18:55] <IndyGunFreak> i figured w/ machines coming out w/ tons of ram, 1.5-2x was probably  overkill for most
[18:55] <Berzerker-> roy, 1.5x-2.0x again, is an old rule
[18:55] <wsch> rohow much ram have you got?
[18:55] <IndyGunFreak> roy, just make swap however big you want, it doesn't matter
[18:55] <Berzerker-> roy, 1GB will be fine, really.
[18:55] <derek_smart> joaopinto: and Berzerker- is telling people to undersize swap....
[18:55] <woble> Lol, cant install grub 2 because it depends on grub-pc
[18:55] <theadmin> Can anyone tell me what is "Checking whether build environment is sane... yes". I laugh every time i see it.
[18:55] <Berzerker-> derek_smart, again, stop trolling thanks.
[18:55] <woble> cant install grub-pc because it depends on grub2
[18:55] <Berzerker-> afk
[18:55] <wsch> roy, how many RAM you have?
[18:56] <igama> IndyGunFreak, yep, swap = ram is usually the normal rule these days
[18:56] <derek_smart> Berzerker-: would you stop spamming
[18:56] <IndyGunFreak> igama, good to know.
[18:56] <ripps> roy: do you plan on using hibernate, if you do, your swap needs to the bigger than your ram, otherwise, 1gig might suffice
[18:56] <DopeGhoti> dragon: I just have an "alias screen=byobu" in my .profile.  Also, wow, this channel scrolls fast :)
[18:56] <roy> wsch: 2GB
[18:56] <ripps> roy: *don't
[18:56] <joaopinto> derek_smart, swapping is not just about hibernation, there are mutiple factors for swap sizing, again, it's debatablle and this is not the right channel for a debate
[18:56] <gOLDfeesh> I'm not siding with, but I'm rather confused as to why derek_smart is getting in trouble. He's simply talking and giving alternatives.
[18:56] <preecher> why did he put memory in his ass
[18:56] <wsch> roy, then i would use 3GB SWAP, personally
[18:56] <petsounds> how can i install medibuntu. i already add the sources. thanks
[18:56] <derek_smart> joaopinto: i realize that swap isnt just about hibernation, but it must be big enough for it to allow hibernation... he is suggesting the opposite
[18:56] <IndyGunFreak> roy, truthfully, i agree w/ wsch
[18:56] <wsch> roy, i would recommend at least 2GB
[18:56] <theadmin> petsounds: medibuntu provides many packages, which one do you want?
[18:57] <dragon> DopeGhoti: yep it's fast
[18:57] <gOLDfeesh> !medibuntu
[18:57] <Tesssa> why don't a op ban him
[18:57] <DopeGhoti> derek_smart: I have a system with 2GB of RAM and 512MB of swap. And it can hibernate. So you are demonstrably wrong here.
[18:57] <derek_smart> joaopinto: this is the support channel. as such, lets avoid breaking peoples hibernate functions
[18:57] <G_A_C> DopeGhoti: maybe because you're not actually using more than 512Mb
[18:57] <tooth> okay so, on koala. I attempted to move the window with alt+mouseclick. it seems I hit the windows key instead, and it zooooomed way way in instead
[18:57] <IndyGunFreak> roy, are you severely low on disks space?
[18:57] <tooth> how do you.... unzoom?
[18:57] <roy> Well, I think 2GB is the average of all you contradicting geeks.
[18:57] <derek_smart> DopeGhoti: /etc/sysctl has values for image compression...
[18:57] <kwagga1> gee whiz... the channel is motoring!
[18:57] <adac> After upgrading to 9.10 my X server won't start on boot anymore. I can start X with startx though. Any ideas what's wrong?
[18:57] <derek_smart> DopeGhoti: they can be compressed under ram, but its not guaranteed
[18:58] <wsch> roy, 2GB would be fine, but since 1GB is not much these days...
[18:58] <DopeGhoti> G_A_C: the point being that "swap size must be ≥ RAM size" is incorrect :)
[18:58] <derek_smart> DopeGhoti: were you using all of your ram at the time you hibernated?
[18:58] <derek_smart> DopeGhoti: most likely not
[18:58] <ripps> roy: swap is complicated, and different amounts are need for different scenarios.
[18:58] <gOLDfeesh> !swap
[18:58] <Bearcat> hey folks, using ubuntu netbook remix 9.10. I can't find the system..preferences item (i can't even find prefernces) to turn off the netbook laucher and get me to a standard desktop like in the last version. How do i do that?
[18:58] <DopeGhoti> derek_smart: the point being that "swap size must be ≥ RAM size" is incorrect :)
[18:58] <roy> IndyGunFreak: 20GB to spare. 730GB too important
[18:58] <petsounds> theadmin : i want codecs for 3gp video, if im not mistaken it's .amr. i search on synaptic then i install it. but still i dont get the audio.
[18:58] <shankhs> Will this downlaod give me an alternate CD for ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/download?
[18:58] <nick125> Hey..I'm having a bit of a problem. I'm trying to upgrade to 9.10 on my Eee, but there isn't enough disk space. Any ideas or should I just reinstall?
[18:58] <KnickLighter> I just tried to upgrade my ubuntu server and this is what I get:
[18:58] <KnickLighter> http://pastebin.com/m298e5028
[18:58] <wildc4rd> in the grub bootloader menu.lst, do I just change the position of OS's to determine which is the default? (ie, first booted)
[18:58] <G_A_C> DopeGhoti: not necessarily, you might get away with it 9 times out of 10, but it's that 10th one, where you're doing a LOT of work and thus using a LOT of RAM that's gonna get you
[18:58] <derek_smart> DopeGhoti: i was making that suggestion as a safe starting point, your usage pattern wasnt exploiting the safe net to its fullest
[18:58] <theadmin> petsounds: Install... uhm, restricted-codecs
[18:58] <derek_smart> DopeGhoti: if you had been using your total ram
[18:58] <TNA5000> does anyone know how i can install tor on Ubuntu Karmic?
[18:59] <ripps> roy: ignore everybody here and just read this and make your own decision: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[18:59] <th1> nick125, how short of space are you? starting with "sudo aptitude clean" may give you some extra space
[18:59] <raven_> which distri/system easily builds up a performance-cluster?
[18:59] <derek_smart> DopeGhoti: hibernation wouldnt have been a possibility
[18:59] <Bearcat> nick125: i would just reinstall. I just did that. Back up first of course
[18:59] <derek_smart> DopeGhoti: this is well documented in the kernel source code comments
[18:59] <DopeGhoti> G_A_C: derek_smart: If I'm using all of my RAM, I'm probably not at a point where I'm thinking about hibernating my cimpoter.  *shrug*
[18:59] <nick125> th1: About 500MB short. I already ran aptitude clean and I only got about 250MB.
[18:59] <derek_smart> DopeGhoti: how about you give them a thorough read and comprehension session
[18:59] <nick125> I knew I shouldn't have gone for the 4GB SSD!
[18:59] <Idhan> I have problem with adobe-flashplugin , not sound with firefox.. any idea? ubuntu9.10
[18:59] <hellyes> can I load Photoshop onto ubuntu?
[18:59] <roy> ripps: Ok, thanks.
[18:59] <th1> nick125, if you are looking to tidy up the disk I can warmly recommend kdirstat
[18:59] <luca> !it
[18:59] <wsch> DopeGhoti, thats not the point
[18:59] <petsounds> theadmin : if u mean ubuntu restrcited extras then i have installing it
[18:59] <woble> hellyes , CS2 works in wine
[18:59] <innomen> What can i use to capture audio and video that has a gui?
[19:00] <myNickName> hi, does the desktop release of ubuntu 9.10 allow to use fde?
[19:00] <theadmin> hellyes: Use Wine
[19:00] <wildc4rd> hellyes, tried Gimp?
[19:00] <derek_smart> DopeGhoti: that is irrelevant. your ram usage pattern shouldnt be altered because of hibernation
[19:00] <zakwilson> It seems my direct rendering problem was the result of nvidia-glx-96 being installed and attempting to enable an nvidia driver along with the ATI driver.
[19:00] <Scunizi> What's the advantage of byobu over screen?
[19:00] <G_A_C> DopeGhoti: OTOH it's exactly where I might want to hibernate. Right in the middle of something, if I need to step away for a break or other reason, or I need to sleep and carry on in the morning, that's exactly when I would want to hibernate
[19:00] <Shikaku> sudo apt-get install non-free-codecs
[19:00] <th1> nick125, especially if yuo have lots of stuff in your homedir but don't know where the big stuff is
[19:00] <ctmjr> derek_smart let it go
[19:00] <wsch> i hate it when people are wrong and start conpleining that someone is trolling
[19:00] <theadmin> petsounds: No, restricted-codecs from medibuntu
[19:00] <yancho> xlq,  any ideas please?
[19:00] <trism> Idhan: did you install the adobe deb manually or did you install flashplugin-installer from the repos?
[19:00] <innomen> !capture
[19:00] <wsch> BAH
[19:00] <derek_smart> DopeGhoti: and making suggestions on that principle alone is ignorant
[19:00] <roygbiv> on 9.04 how can i upgrade firefox to 3.5? i don't know which package to get
[19:00] <theadmin> Damn, it's so noisy here.
[19:00] <DopeGhoti> wsch: All I was saying is that the assertion that you will not be able to hibernate if you have less swap than RAM is not completely accurate.
[19:00] <VirusTB> Rawr!
[19:00] <Idhan> trism: repos
[19:00] <nick125> th1: I only have about 50MB of stuff in /home on there
[19:00] <wsch> is you don't know what you are talking about then for the love of god DONT help
[19:00] <derek_smart> ctmjr: you do realize that bad advice like this has consequences
[19:00] <G_A_C> roygbiv: firefox-3.5 from universe
[19:00] <linved> hey i need some help, to get WPA work in 9.10, last time i got my wificard to work whit WPA was whit ubuntu 8.X. (and works great in windows)
[19:00] <petsounds> theadmin : ok, gimme the cmd line, please
[19:00] <Idhan> trism: should I do it manually?
[19:00] <hellyes> woble: what is gimp? is it native to ubuntu?
[19:00] <derek_smart> ctmjr: on people that dont know better
[19:00] <TNA5000> theadmin: WHAT?
[19:00] <icehawk78> Will Ubuntu send a kill signal to an app that may be trying to eat up all of the computer's memory? Like, say, a ruby script that's filling up a hash variable almost indefinitely?
[19:00] <adac> TNA5000, Is there no TOR package in the repository?
[19:00] <th1> nick125, maybe you can expand your partition?
[19:00] <zakwilson> The problem now is that that package also seems to be the source for libGLcore.so.1, the lack of which is a bit of a problem if I want to use 3D pretty much anything.
[19:00] <derek_smart> ctmjr: namely just about everyone thats here
[19:00] <roygbiv> G_A_C ty
[19:00] <trism> Idhan: nope, that should work
[19:00] <TNA5000> adac: no there is not
[19:00] <woble> hellyes , gimp = linux photoshop
[19:00] <grawity> adac: Tor is not in repos anymore. (Security reasons.)
[19:01] <DopeGhoti> icehawk78: using ulimit can prevent that sort of thing from being a problem.
[19:01] <wsch> woble, untrue
[19:01] <woble> hellyes , but its opensource.. and better :)
[19:01] <innomen> !webcam
[19:01] <wsch> woble, gimp does not only run on linux
[19:01] <adac> grawity, TNA5000 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TOR
[19:01] <wsch> woble, gimp is just a free photoshop alternative
[19:01] <nick125> th1: Nope. It's already at the full 4GB.
[19:01] <hanasaki> how do I turn on xmdcp in koala?
[19:01] <Shikaku> gimp is open source and runs on windows too
[19:01] <woble> wsch , i know but this is easier to explain
[19:01] <grawity> adac: Which is Tor's repo, not Ubuntu's.
[19:01] <adac> grawity, which security reasons?
[19:01] <wsch> woble, its still incorrect
[19:01] <th1> nick125, ok it's probably going to be hard to cut enough out ;)
[19:01] <Idhan> trism: which package should I install (from the repos)  the nonfree , installer, there is a few options
[19:01] <icehawk78> DopeGhoti: Prevent it from being a problem, how? By doing the killing, or by preventing it from being killed?
[19:01] <adac> grawity, Yea tors repo
[19:01] <th1> maybe reinstall is better
[19:01] <hellyes> woble: where can I get that? is it compatible with photoshop i.e. - opening/closing photoshop files?
[19:02] <woble> wsch , could have said: gimp is an equivalent of photoshop that also works on linux
[19:02] <TNA5000> adac: no karmic repo
[19:02] <woble> hellyes , it comes with ubuntu
[19:02] <grawity> adac: IIRC, Tor devs made their own repository because it's very important for Tor to be updated as soon as possible.
[19:02] <nick125> th1: That's what I'm starting to think....I guess I better get the USB drive out
[19:02] <Halitech> hellyes, it is normally installed by default, look under graphics
[19:02] <rockrat> hello
[19:02] <woble> hellyes , start -> graphics -> gimp
[19:02] <Shikaku> hellyes: it's installed by default on ubuntu, but you can go to http://gimp.org
[19:02] <wsch> woble, it doesnt mahter its just that some people might now think that gimp is linux only, thats all
[19:02] <K4nkr0> amsn can not install
[19:02] <DopeGhoti> icehawk78: ulimit can limit a user's processes memory or process count usage, for example, so such a runaway will be killed
[19:02] <adac> grawity, Ahh i see. Of course that is a good decision
[19:02] <hellyes> will gimp open photoshop files?
[19:03] <DopeGhoti> hellyes: I believe it will
[19:03] <wsch> woble, didnt mean it in a bad way
[19:03] <roy> ripps: I think the FAQ is strongly recommending 1x to 2x swap is HDD space is available
[19:03] <adac> TNA5000, already tried to replace jaunty with karmic?
[19:03] <Halitech> hellyes, its opened everything I've thrown at it
[19:03] <woble> wsch, i know ;)
[19:03] <ripps> roy: yes
[19:03] <linved> hey i need some help, to get WPA work in 9.10, last time i got my wificard to work whit WPA was whit ubuntu 8.X. (and works great in windows)
[19:03] <adac> TNA5000, MEan in the repository
[19:03] <myNickName> hi all - does anyone know if the desktop install cd of ubuntu 9.10 supports installation on an encrypted root fs (luks)?
[19:03] <wsch> roy, correct
[19:03] <sd32> my usb sound card isnt working in 9.10, the sound settings sees it but no sound how can i get it working?
[19:03] <derek_smart> roy: that much swap is undeeded
[19:03] <jonaskul> Can I have some help with Wine?
[19:03] <woble> someone already installed Grub2 on Karmic after Jaunty upgrade without cyclic dependency error?
[19:03] <wsch> roy, most people use 1.5times amount of RAM now
[19:03] <Amaranth> myNickName: To setup luks you have to use the alternative install disc
[19:03] <derek_smart> roy: stop suggesting users should waste their hdd space like that
[19:03] <hellyes> do windows device drivers work with ubuntu?
[19:03] <icehawk78> DopeGhoti: I'm actually trying to do the exact opposite. I've got a program that I want to have access to basically all possible memory unless it will literally crash the computer. I'm trying to map out the entire progression of a prng, so it'll need *lots* of memory.
[19:03] <duffydack> hellyes, It will open them, but I`m unsure as to if it can save layer information as psd.... its best to use gimps .xcf format
[19:04] <petsounds> theadmin : r u with me?
[19:04] <myNickName> Amaranth: thank you!
[19:04] <wsch> roy, unless you are rally short on diskspace or something i woudl recommend 3GB
[19:04] <kwagga1> What can I do if ubuntu picked up a too large resolution? - since setting the right res, causes funny lines to appear, it looks severely stretched...
[19:04] <woble> swap? what swap? do we use swap? :P
[19:04] <TNA5000> adac: i'm sorry? what do you mean "MEan in the repository"?
[19:04] <wsch> for 2GB RAM
[19:04] <Ademan> sd32: have you tried opening up the sound prefereces (right click on the speaker, hit preferences) and tried to enable all of the mixers you can, and crank them up? it's possible some obscure mixer setting is muted or something
[19:04] <grawity> TNA5000: Just read the page adac gave you.
[19:04] <Amaranth> woble: Try using aptitude to do it
[19:04] <grawity> TNA5000: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TOR
[19:04] <ripps> roy: just so you know, since have a large amount of ram, you might want to change your vm.swappiness (bottom of the faq) so that linux will use more of your ram and cache to swap less. This will make things more responsive
[19:04] <Amaranth> woble: sudo aptitude install grub-pc
[19:04] <roy> derek_smart: I am not suggesting anything to anybody. It's on Ubuntu FAQ
[19:04] <sg999> hi i just upgraded to 9.10 and have  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) and am unable to get display settings greater than 800x600.  Any suggestions?
[19:04] <TNA5000> ok will do.
[19:04] <TNA5000> thanks
[19:04] <Shikaku> sd32: System, Preferences, Sound and Click the output tab and select the usb sound card
[19:04] <Shikaku> i use swap for hibernation and VM
[19:04] <albasheers> blue tooth not working after installing karmic kola
[19:04] <DopeGhoti> icehawk78: Interesting.  You'll want, then, to tell ulimit *not* to limit you, but I'm not going to help set off a fork bomb in here ;)
[19:04] <jonaskul> How can I install Wine beta release on Karmic?
[19:04] <derek_smart> wsch: thats too much... ubuntu is being presented as an unbloated alternative to windows, stop making people dispose of precious hdd space like that
[19:05] <clainth> hello
[19:05] <K4nkr0> hello
[19:05] <netbook> Can someone pastebin their Iptables where ssh ip is blocked after a few tries?
[19:05] <boscop> why does ubuntu show the black screen after 1 minute idle?
[19:05] <hellyes> will windows device drivers work with ubuntu?
[19:05] <woble> Amaranth , nopez same error.. but browsing through bug reports atm :)
[19:05] <sd32> Ademan,shikaku thanks
[19:05] <boscop> I set it to 10 min
[19:05] <wsch> derek_smart, im just gonna ignore you, you are severily annoying
[19:05] <igama> hellyes, no
[19:05] <adac> TNA5000, /etc/apt/sources.list add those: http://pastie.org/677166
[19:05] <clainth> does anyone experience connectivity with ubuntuone
[19:05] <roy> ripps: Thanks, thats really great tip
[19:05] <Halitech> hellyes, mostly no but some wireless drivers will
[19:05] <nick125> netbook: I use denyhosts, which uses /etc/hosts.deny rather than iptables
[19:05] <dupondje> can somebody try printing from flash ? does it show printers ?
[19:05] <woble> once this is solved there is only one more thing to solve: the frickin' drums on startup ^^
[19:05] <myNickName> bye folks, thank you for the help!
[19:06] <woble> who invented these things anyways
[19:06] <Amaranth> jonaskul: install the wine1.2 package
[19:06] <icehawk78> DopeGhoti: Is there a simple way to at least tell if ulimit is installed/running, to see if that's what I need to look for?
[19:06] <derek_smart> wsch: eventually you wont be able to, since what youre doing is directly against this channels code of conduct
[19:06] <Shikaku> dupondje: ok, brb
[19:06] <netbook> nick125 is that better/worse than iptabels
[19:06] <adac> After upgrading to 9.10 my X server won't start on boot anymore. I can start X with startx though. Any ideas what's wrong?
[19:06] <G_A_C> netbook: it's more automatic and does the job you want
[19:06] <Amaranth> derek_smart: I think you're a bit confused
[19:06] <ArianHT_> hi, i'm running ubuntu 9.04 and my Software Sources looks like this : http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/214/screenshotsoftwaresourc.png     , how should i remove that Blueman item from list?!(When i click on remove, nothing happens!)
[19:06] <DopeGhoti> icehawk78: ulimit should be installed by default
[19:06] <tooth> aha! Found it. So FYI,  WindowsKey (Super) + mousewheel == Desktop ZOOM with Compiz enabled
[19:06] <igama> adac, graphic card?
[19:06] <derek_smart> Amaranth: as to what
[19:06] <Amaranth> derek_smart: The Code of Conduct, for one
[19:06] <nicklas_> ubuntu 9.10 is really good, just missing some features in empathy, such as notify icon, possibility to turn of logging, and webcam support
[19:06] <netbook> nick125 i have a netbook and thus get multiple ips, deny host only allows a static ip?
[19:06] <derek_smart> Amaranth: ive been trying to render hurd since i got here
[19:06] <hellyes> igma: how do you get proper ubuntu drivers for your devices? do I have to go search them all out or does it recognize them itself?
[19:06] <DopeGhoti> icehawk78: to check, run 'ulimit'; if it replies 'unlimited', fork bomb away :)
[19:07] <dupondje> nicklas_: and file transfer support imo
[19:07] <petsounds> anybody can help me to get 3gp audio work on karmic?
[19:07] <igama> hellyes, most devices are recognized by them self
[19:07] <nick125> netbook: denyhosts will only block a host if they try to SSH in with the incorrect password too many times.
[19:07] <sampo_> hello
[19:07] <nicklas_> dupondje, it dont have that either?
[19:07] <igama> hellyes, the big majority of then have no problems
[19:07] <innomen> is there a list or wiki somewhere for all software?
[19:07] <netbook> nick125 how do i set that up.
[19:07] <adac> igama, Well it is a persisten live usb stick I only had the "normal" drivers installed and on jhaunty it worked on everys amchine I've tried
[19:07] <dupondje> nicklas_: don't think so :P
[19:07] <netbook> nick125 can you pastebin yoru conf?
[19:07] <icehawk78> DopeGhoti: Hm, I ran that and it did say unlimited. But the last time I tried the script, it still stopped midway and just exited with "Killed"
[19:07] <sampo_> I need a hand of assistance...concerning wireless drivers
[19:07] <jonaskul> Amaranth, Thanks a lot!
[19:07] <enjo451> Hi all... I have a Dell Inspiron running a Broadcom wireless 4312. Worked great under 9.04. Upgrading to 9.10 broke it. I've tried the fix of installing bcmwl-kernel-source... I have the Broadcom STA driver available and activated under 'Hardware Drivers'. I can see my local network, but it simply refuses to connect to it. It prompts me for the password.. I enter it... it doesn't actually connect.
[19:07] <gigabytes> hello
[19:08] <sg999> hi i just upgraded to 9.10 and have  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) and am unable to get display settings greater than 800x600.  Any suggestions?
[19:08] <sampo_> apua
[19:08] <nick125> netbook: I'm using the default config.
[19:08] <DopeGhoti> icehawk78: something else must be watchdogging it for you, then.
[19:08] <sampo_> kuka puhuu suomea sisalla?
[19:08] <gigabytes> my computer freezed while installing a restricted driver for a broadcom wireless card
[19:08] <nicklas_> dupondje, :-( then why did they change? and have you changed back to pidgin?
[19:08] <gigabytes> now, dpkg seems screwed up
[19:08] <coz_> sampo_,  I know too little about wireless set ups  and driver issues   ...howver...if no on here can help  you may want to go to ##linux channel
[19:08] <dupondje> nicklas_: sudo aptitude install pidgin ? :P
[19:08] <roy> I currently have a very large swap, with default spwappiness. (60) I think that's why my ubuntu is rather slow.
[19:08] <kisuke> how does one upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10? do you need a CD? or can you do it from command line?
[19:08] <Shikaku> dupondje: yes it does work
[19:09] <adac> igama, should I try to install the vesa driver gaian?
[19:09] <adac> *again
[19:09] <nicklas_> dupondje, lol yes
[19:09] <G_A_C> kisuke: do-release-upgrade from the command line should start the upgrade
[19:09] <gigabytes> I can't remove the bcmwl-kernel-source and the restricted drivers window doesn't work anymore
[19:09] <gigabytes> how can I solve this?
[19:09] <th1> roy, how much swap does "free" tell you it's using
[19:09] <hanasaki> how d you turn off syntax coloring / highighinting in vim?
[19:09] <nick125> kisuke: You can do it without a CD. If you have a GUI, update-manager, otherwise do-release-upgrade (iirc)
[19:09] <enjo451> kisuke: Easiest way is to use the upgrade tool under system
[19:09] <G_A_C> kisuke: or click the new version button in the graphical update manager
[19:09] <sampo_> ubuntu 9.10 does not have drivers for my wirless card, what to do?
[19:09] <dupondje> hmz Shikaku: it shows printers when you try priting from a flash page ?
[19:09] <ArianHT_> hi, i'm running ubuntu 9.04 and my Software Sources looks like this : http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/214/screenshotsoftwaresourc.png     , how should i remove that Blueman item from list?!(When i click on remove, nothing happens!)
[19:09] <enjo451> sampo_: which card is it?
[19:09] <CrocoJet> sad that webcams are not working 100% at kernel 2.6.31
[19:09] <DopeGhoti> Hahahan: check your ~/.vimrc
[19:09] <kisuke> domo arigato all
[19:09] <sampo_> I have hp530 notebook
[19:09] <sg999> sampo try ndiswrapper
[19:09] <nick125> kisuke: Although, I've found it faster _with_ a CD, as you can grab the ISO from bittorrent rather than congested mirrors.
[19:09] <sampo_> I think intel
[19:10] <sampo_> yes, Intel
[19:10] <roy> th1: What's "free" ?
[19:10] <sg999> sampo add the wndows .inf driver for your wireless device
[19:10] <th1> th1, command to type in the terminal
[19:10] <Kate> Greetings
[19:10] <kisuke> nick125: not blody likely, i have 23 gig worth of torrent going id be wating for a day or 2 either way
[19:10] <sampo_> I downloaded the 9.10 version, but I was not able to use my wifi card...the only way to have access to net...
[19:10] <Kate> Hey...
[19:10] <Kate> Anybody know much about partman-auto?
[19:10] <wsch> th1, you highlighted yourself lol
[19:10] <th1> roy, command to type in the terminal :)
[19:11] <TNA5000> adac: grawity: Err http://mirror.noreply.org karmic/main Packages        404  Not Found    Err http://mirror.noreply.org karmic/main Sources         404  Not Found
[19:11] <th1> wsch, yeah just noticed ;)
[19:11] <netbook> what is benefeit of ufw logging?
[19:11] <sampo_> any suggested drivers?
[19:11] <netbook> and where can i access them?
[19:11] <wsch> th1, i tohught you missed it :)
[19:11] <grawity> TNA5000: Use 'jaunty' for a while, until the Tor devs update their repository.
[19:11] <roy> th1: System monitor reports 1.9MB of 3.8GB swap in use now
[19:11] <sg999> any ideas on resetting display to larger than 800x600?
[19:11] <TNA5000> ok, i'll give that a shot
[19:11] <th1> roy, if it's only using 1.9MB it's not likely to be contributing to any slowness
[19:12] <dupondje> Shikaku: its weird :x
[19:12] <dawid> cześć
[19:12] <adac> grawity, Yeah listen to grawity. I'm sure the karmic repo will come soon
[19:12] <Scunizi> sg999: that's typically a video driver issue.. what kind of vid card do you have?
[19:12] <wsch> roy, i think your speed problems are totally unrelated to your swap, your swap should be fine
[19:12] <wsch> considering your RAM size
[19:12] <Laserbeak> how do i check my vidcard and install the latest drivers for it? it's an intel card
[19:12] <sg999>  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02
[19:12] <roy> The links in the built-in help open very slowly, and pictures open like animations.
[19:12] <sampo_> ?
[19:12] <Halitech> Laserbeak, lspci | grep VGA
[19:13] <th1> roy, you can always try to unmount the swap partition (sudo swapoff -a) to see if it makes a difference. you have enough RAM that it shouldn't break anything.
[19:13] <crazy2k_> How do I install a specific version of a package?
[19:13] <Laserbeak> Halitech: thx
[19:13] <th1> crazy2k_, aptitude -t repository package-name
[19:13] <sampo_> any one?
[19:13] <Scunizi> sg999: that had some issues with the 9.04 release but is suppose to be fixed in 9.10... have you done a full system update yet?
[19:13] <G_A_C> crazy2k_: either apt-pinning, or IIRC you can do something like "aptitude install package/repo"
[19:13] <sg999> yes just got done and have been *&^**!! wrestling with this for a cpl of hrs now
[19:14] <gh0zt> can gparted resize partitions?
[19:14] <crazy2k_> th1: And the version number?
[19:14] <IndyGunFreak> sampo_, well, i've been unable to find a "my wifi card" w/ Google.. so perhaps you should tell us what wifi card you hae
[19:14] <Laserbeak> Halitech: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
[19:14] <Laserbeak> now what do i do?
[19:14] <trijntje> !wifi|sampo_,
[19:14] <distant_voice> I installed the beta, so it seems like I'm in the development tree (whatever that means). Can I get back to the stable tree now that Koala is released?
[19:14] <IdleOne> gh0zt: yes but you must unmount the partition to do so
[19:14] <hanasaki> how do you enable xdmcp ?  the login prefs no longer have the option.. what ifile do I edit?
[19:14] <differentreality> hi, i upgraded today from 9.04 to 9.10 and I seem to have a huge problem with videos, I cannot play neither avi nor mp4 with any of my players (vlc, mplayer/kmplayer)  is this a known problem? is there a thread with a solution or sth ?? thanks!
[19:14] <sg999> i've even resinstalled xserver-xorg-video -intel to no avail
[19:14] <gh0zt> IdleOne: k, thanks
[19:14] <G_A_C> crazy2k_: you can't just pick a version number; you have to use a version which is available in a repo. so you have to use whichever repo has the version you want in it, and if none of them have it, you can't install it with apt.
[19:14] <IndyGunFreak> differentreality, thats odd, i play everything fine.
[19:14] <Scunizi> sg999: open synaptic package manager and search for intel or 945 and see what pops up.. you might have to install the driver from there.
[19:14] <netbook> I just did "sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop" and I am still connected to internet :/
[19:15] <differentreality> IndyGunFreak,  have you upgraded or do you have a clean install ?
[19:15] <th1> crazy2k_, if it's not the latest version in one of your repositories you must download the .deb file manually and install it using dpkg -i filename.deb
[19:15] <sg999> yah, tried that
[19:15] <IndyGunFreak> differentreality, always do a clean install
[19:15] <Halitech> differentreality, you may need to re-enable the medibuntu repos and reinstall ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:15] <wsch> gh0zt, and take a backup!
[19:15] <xjkx>  i share a connection by NAT, just so the computer in the living room can have internet too, there is no router, its just one machine connected to another. the thing is, the connection in the living room downloads too slow, while the connection in the "server" downloads fine, but i am not doing anything there in the computer in my room, if i could get all the connection speed from the server(room) to the client(living room) that would be great. I can't just
[19:15] <crazy2k_> th1: I want a version from a jaunty repo. But now I'm on karmic.
[19:15] <IndyGunFreak> Halitech, really, vlc should play those formats w/o medibuntu
[19:15] <ubuntu_> Hi
[19:15] <differentreality> IndyGunFreak,  i c :)  well so it could be the case that there is some old file or sth that is creating this problem i guess, but it is really really weird indeed
[19:15] <Jeruvy> differentreality: not really, more info needed about your issue.
[19:15] <sg999> weird thing is when i dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg i don't get any kind of dialog
[19:15] <wsch> i cant get grub working on my partition, i intend to start grub with BCD, that part works fine, only grub immediately gives me a CLI
[19:16] <Halitech> IndyGunFreak, ok, missed vlc with the room scrolling as fast as it is
[19:16] <wsch> no error or anything that i can see
[19:16] <th1> crazy2k_, which package is it?
[19:16] <G_A_C> sg999: I think you need to use dpkg-configure -p low xorgblah to make it ask more questions during the installation.
[19:16] <IndyGunFreak> Halitech, lol gotta go full screen to keep up here.. :)
[19:16] <n8tuser> xjkx-> have a drawing of your network layout? paste it please, a pix is worth a thousand words
[19:16] <wsch> any suggestions?
[19:16] <sampo_> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=3375995&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=3375953&swLang=13&taskId=135&swEnvOID=1093
[19:16] <gh0zt> wsch: i don't do backups, that's sooooooo 80's :)
[19:16] <Halitech> IndyGunFreak, I am in full screen ~L~
[19:16] <Scunizi> sg999: you may be able to do that from the rescue mode on boot.. I seem to remember there is a video reconfiguration choice there.
[19:16] <sampo_> this the link for the specifications of my laptop:(hp530 notebook)
[19:16] <sampo_> with 9.04 wifi drivers were ok
[19:17] <sampo_> so, I reinstalled 9.04
[19:17] <wsch> xjkx, you can setup QoS (quality over service)
[19:17] <IndyGunFreak> sampo_, that still tells us nothing... open a terminal and type "lspci" no quotes.. then hit enter, and see how it identifies your wireless device
[19:17] <sg999> thnx lemme try that
[19:17] <th1> sampo_, you may find the compat-wireless bleeding edge drivers can help you.
[19:17] <wsch> gh0zt, you are insane unless you dont have data on your comp you cannot loose
[19:17] <roy> I have changed the swappiness to 10. Now I"ll reboot and see. See you guys later
[19:17] <xjkx> n8tuser: what do you mean ? you want my iptables commands ? :P if you wanna know how the machines are connected, there is a blue cable connecting them, thats all
[19:17] <th1> sampo_, http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Download
[19:17] <IndyGunFreak> roy, 10?.. 10 what?
[19:17] <G_A_C> roy: you can just do "sudo sysctl -a", no need to reboot
[19:18] <xjkx> wsch: gonna google thanks
[19:18] <wsch> xjkx, no problem, you can probably also do it simpler
[19:18] <sampo_>  lspci
[19:18] <n8tuser> xjkx-> easier to discuss a drawing than what you have described (for me),
[19:18] <sampo_> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
[19:18] <sampo_> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[19:18] <sampo_> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[19:18] <sampo_> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[19:18] <FloodBot3> sampo_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:18] <sampo_> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 01)
[19:18] <quentusrex> Can someone help? do-release-upgrade is hanging
[19:18] <IndyGunFreak> sampo_, are you retarded?.. i said your wireless device, not the whole damn lspci
[19:18] <quentusrex> Right after 'Checking for a new ubuntu release'
[19:18] <dual_> I've upgraded to 9.10 but every time I visit a page with flash, I hear a very loud "pop" from the loudspeakers. It's really annoying, any idea how to fix it?
[19:19] <wsch> n8tuser, its his modem that goes to a computer, and that computer does NAT to a second computer, if i understood correctly but im pretty sure i did
[19:19] <G_A_C> quentusrex: it may be that the mirror you are using is slow
[19:19] <Scunizi> IndyGunFreak: calma.. calma..
[19:19] <IndyGunFreak> Scunizi, lol, i was born calm. :)
[19:19] <crazy2k_> th1: Will it work if I try to install a deb with an old version?
[19:19] <Halitech> dual_, don't go to pages with flash? ;)
[19:19] <wsch> n8tuser, and the second computer has less bandwidth then the other
[19:19] <quentusrex> G_A_C, nope. because it is only on one of my servers
[19:19] <sampo_> Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[19:19] <n8tuser> wsch-> a layout is much easier to discuss, words sometimes gets mis-interpreted
[19:19] <ubuntistas> how do i install jdownloader?
[19:19] <quentusrex> all the rest of the servers works
[19:19] <IndyGunFreak> but breathing requires a modicum of common sense, which he apparently lacks.. "A channel of 1800 people, so i'll post my whol lspci here..lol"
[19:19] <th1> crazy2k_, it depends .. which .deb is it?
[19:19] <ubuntistas> any clue?
[19:19] <roy> G_A_C: I don't see any vm.swappiness there. Should I enter it? And "save"?
[19:19] <sampo_> are there some drivers?
[19:19] <StarMatt> Hello, I'm on the live of karmic and I would like to know how to enable the Moblin interface (I'm on the desktop version), can you help me plz ?
[19:19] <Halitech> dual_, did you reinstall flashplugin-nonfree?
[19:19] <dual_> Halitech, I know, I know, but stumbleupon.com still takes me to flash pages every once in a while
[19:20] <ctmjr> IndyGunFreak, be nice
[19:20] <dual_> Halitech, no, I just upgraded from 9.04
[19:20] <G_A_C> roy: you can edit /etc/sysctl.conf to change sysctl settings, and yes; if what you want isn't there, then add it
[19:20] <IndyGunFreak> ctmjr, i'm being realistic.. if he can't grasp that, do you think he's gona grasp any instructions?
[19:20] <Halitech> dual_, maybe try (re)installing it
[19:20] <G_A_C> roy: I typed sysctl -a didn't I? I meant sysctl -p :D
[19:20] <th1> roy, there is no need to adjust swappiness on a normal desktop system.. only servers with certain non-standard workloads may benefit in special cases
[19:20] <dual_> Halitech, yea, I'll give it a try
[19:20] <G_A_C> roy: to set sysctl stuff, edit /etc/sysctl.conf to add/edit the value you're changing, and then run sysctl -p to make it take effect
[19:21] <dual_> Halitech, hmm, seems like every time something is going to make a sound, I get the pop now
[19:21] <crazy2k_> th1: python-wxgtk2.8
[19:21] <dual_> Maybe it's a pulseaudio issue?
[19:21] <IndyGunFreak> sampo_, i'm not sure if you can do this w/o an internet connection or not...  http://jetpackweb.com/blog/2009/10/29/ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala-and-broadcom-bcm4312/
[19:21] <wsch> th1, he has speed problems and thinks they are related to his SWAP partition :s
[19:21] <Halitech> dual_, could be ... maybe check your mixer settings
[19:21] <digital-rouge> hey anyone having cdrom trouble wiht the new update?
[19:21] <JonathanEllis> I am trying to resize partitions on a usb disk using gparted. I unmount the partitions first but for some reason they automatically remount during the resize operation so it fails. Why do the partitions keep remounting?
[19:21] <Ed54> #ubuntu achieved a max peak of 1866 users by binaryDragon on Thu Oct 29 10:20:48 2009.
[19:21] <raven_> which distri/system easily builds up a performance-cluster?
[19:21] <Acegi> Quick question, what do I search in synaptics to install java?
[19:22] <th1> crazy2k_, from looking at the karmic version of that package it will probably work. unless some other packages on your karmic depend on the newer version.
[19:22] <Acegi> Not sure what to install
[19:22] <helloyou> hi, I am trying to install ubuntu via a live cd but when it comes to the step where I am supposed to prepare partitions it can not find my HD. When I try to mount (by right clicking and selecting mount) the HD I get nothing back
[19:22] <IndyGunFreak> Acegi, sun-java6 i think.... there's quite a few packages for it..
[19:22] <n8tuser> JonathanEllis-> because of udev, uses auto mount
[19:22] <Halitech> Acegi, search for jre, you probably want the version 6
[19:22] <ctmjr> !java | Acegi
[19:22] <JonathanEllis> Acegi: searh for openjdk or sunjava
[19:22] <dungodung> when I wanted to start epiphany-browser in karmic, I got the "unlock keyring" dialog, but neither the default keyring password nor the "deny" button work. the dialog just keeps popping and prompting me for a password; killing the process(es) restarts the dialog and I can't seem to get rid of it.
[19:22] <th1> crazy2k_, the worst that can happen is that that package and those depending on it won't work until you reinstall the karmic version, so it's worth a try
[19:22] <Scunizi> helloyou: is it a fresh HD with nothing on it?
[19:22] <Acegi> ok thanks!
[19:22] <wsch> helloyou, yesterday someone was in here with the exact same problem
[19:23] <sampo_> I don't have my own net connection, without wifi, I am out of the net, so when I install 9.10, I have NOT net
[19:23] <roy> G_A_C: Did that. Terminal shows swappiness =10. Is it in effect currently or reboot required?
[19:23] <G_A_C> roy: that's it, it's in effect
[19:23] <sampo_> I have net through wifi only...municipality wifi
[19:23] <helloyou> Scunizi, no it contains files
[19:23] <G_A_C> (for what little effect it probably will have)
[19:23] <LiteHedded> installed 9.10 and my compiz window open effects are choppy now. anyone know why?
[19:23] <sampo_> sudo apt-get install won't work...:(
[19:23] <brian_> my system is crashing every couple hours. I've looked through the system logs and right before my system crashes this shows up in the syslog "wpa_supplicant[1545]: CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-RESULTS "
[19:23] <helloyou> wsch, do you know how it was solved?
[19:23] <Digit0> Hello
[19:23] <Halitech> LiteHedded, what video card?
[19:23] <LiteHedded> it's a sony laptop
[19:23] <LiteHedded> not sure exactly
[19:23] <th1> crazy2k_, download it from the bottom of the page here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/python-wxgtk2.8
[19:24] <Digit0> empathy is not connecting with msn, may it be an issue of server / port ??
[19:24] <wsch> helloyou, no sorry, the person had to leave, it was very strange
[19:24] <Halitech> LiteHedded, open a terminal and paste the output of lspci | grep VGA
[19:24] <th1> crazy2k_, then save it and run sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[19:24] <ripps> roy: calls to sysctl take effect immedietly, but to make sure, reset your swap. `sudo swapoff -a && sudo swapon -a`
[19:24] <LiteHedded> k
[19:24] <wsch> helloyou, im curious aswell on how to solve the problem
[19:24] <Stavros> hello
[19:24] <Digit0> it connects if I use meebo.com web
[19:24] <Stavros> how can i change my screen gamma by default?
[19:24] <MasterofPuppets> Guys, if I label a partition "C:" in GParted, think that will fool Vista into taking it in as its own?
[19:24] <StarMatt> Nobody knows how to use Moblin on karmic plzzzz ?
[19:24] <dr3mro> i followed this guide in jaunty and it did fix my fn keys http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97472 but after upgrade to karmic i can apply fix any more can you help me
[19:24] <JonathanEllis> !hi | Stavros
[19:24] <helloyou> Scunizi, and the HD is already ext3 (but contains files). Should I format it, would that be the key?
[19:24] <wsch> helloyou, if you find a solution and im still here, if you remember you can highlight me if you want
[19:25] <LiteHedded> Halitech: nothing happens
[19:25] <grawity> MasterofPuppets: Doubt it... Windows has its own disk manager, uses UUIDs.
[19:25] <helloyou> wsch, i'll try not to forget :)
[19:25] <Halitech> LiteHedded, did you copy and paste the command? it should give you something
[19:25] <roy> ripps: swappoff shows a promptand returned nothing
[19:25] <Scunizi> helloyou: only if you don't mind loosing those files.
[19:25] <LiteHedded> just comes back to command line
[19:25] <MasterofPuppets> grawity: Argh. All I've got to work with are my Windows recovery disks, and they won't install without either erasing my entire drive or finding a C: drive :C
[19:25] <ripps> roy: give it a second, its clearing your swap
[19:25] <wsch> helloyou, thanx, if i think of anything that can help in the meantime ill let you know
[19:25] <helloyou> Scunizi, I alreay have a backup so I'll try that
[19:25] <Halitech> LiteHedded, ok, run lspci and use pastebin to give us the output
[19:26] <LiteHedded> whoops lower case vga
[19:26] <brian_> I'm new to linux and need some help figuring out why my system is crashing randomly can someone help me
[19:26] <LiteHedded> Halitech: intel 915gm/gms/910gml
[19:27] <LiteHedded> integrated intel graphics
[19:27] <Halitech> !intel | LiteHedded
[19:27] <LiteHedded> it worked in 9.04
[19:27] <Digit0> messenger.hotmail.com port 1863 is working ?
[19:27] <Halitech> LiteHedded, that doesn't help much, myabe they didn't get the bugs out in 9.10 regarding intel video cards
[19:27] <antii> Anyone know how the compability with ATI HD4870 & Ubuntu 9.10 is?
[19:27] <ripps> roy: also, with my 1gb of ram, turning my vm.swappiness to 0 gives me a good deal of performance, but if you ever do exceed your ram's limit expect your system to freeze for few seconds, as it needs to intialize swap (which it hadn't been using till then)
[19:27] <sampo_> where to find broadcom drivers, and how to build it when I have no connection to the net?, that's the question
[19:28] <helloyou> ok, I want to format a partition @ 103 GB but GParted only finds one @ 96GB. Is this the correct partition? (btw, I do not want to format the whole HD as I am using the computer as a dual boot)
[19:28] <Halitech> antii, should be fine
[19:28] <almoxarife> i have a karmic installed on a VM running on karmic, i lose the keyboard on return from sleep, anyone else had like issue?
[19:28] <Sashi1> hello is it possible to switch workspaces by moving the mouse to one side of the screen without using compiz?
[19:28] <brian_> I'm new to linux and need some help figuring out why my system is crashing randomly can someone help me
[19:28] <helloyou> btw, should I use ext3 or ext4 for ubuntu 9.10? Is ext4 better?
[19:28] <sampo_> :X
[19:28] <gunther_> Hi there. I upgraded my netbook to 9.10, but now I am no longer able to connect to _hidden_ wireless networks (WPA2 in this case).Created "connection setting", but when trying to connect, the "connect" button is greyed out. Does anyone know about that?
[19:28] <Kate> GOsh
[19:28] <_jonesy_> I have a Macbook pro that I am going to dual boot Ubuntu 9.10 and Snow Leopard. Should I go with the x64 or x86 version of Ubuntu?
[19:28] <almoxarife> lose kyboard control in the vm, that is
[19:29] <Kate> I wish the Ubuntu 9 partman-auto script worked: (
[19:29] <Kate> T_T
[19:29] <Stavros> how can i add xorg.conf settings in karmic?
[19:29] <sampo_> polla zitas
[19:29] <wsch> almoxarife, i believe with vmware you can choose between uSB keyobard / mouse and PS2, try using PS2 if its set to USB
[19:29] <Stavros> sampo_: oust
[19:29] <trism> Sashi1: check out the brightside package, that might be what you need
[19:29] <IndyGunFreak> _jonesy_, i always go w/ 32bit.. but 64bit has come a long way w/ compatibility
[19:29] <sampo_> lol
[19:29] <Stavros> :P
[19:30] <sampo_> mporeis na me boitheiseis?
[19:30] <Stavros> what's wrong?
[19:30] <_jonesy_> IndyGunFreak: I have 4GB's of memory in this laptop, so that was why I was thinking of going with 64bit
[19:30] <Take0n> op 2 ellines :P
[19:30] <roy> ripps: Still no response from terminal. Stopped at the prompt
[19:30] <Stavros> ela re patrida :p
[19:30] <Bearcat> does anyone know how to turn off the netbook remix launcher in 9.10 so i ahve a 'standard' desktop?
[19:30] <wsch> almoxarife, what are you using btw? virtualbox? vmware? qemu? ...
[19:30] <sampo_> ebala 9.10, alla den exei tous drivers gia th wifi cardmou
[19:30] <Stavros> hmm
[19:30] <Stavros> ndiswrapper?
[19:30] <ripps> roy: oh well, your swap will be cleared on reboot
[19:30] <Take0n> sampo_, nai to akousa apo 3 diaforetika atoma auto :p
[19:30] <almoxarife> wsch: virtualbox
[19:30] <Sashi1> trism: thanks alot :D i'll try it
[19:30] <Take0n> simera..
[19:30] <rpj8> If one installs ubuntu with "wubi," does it actually install it to a separate partition, or does it leave the original partitions intact? I've never actually used it myself.
[19:30] <yancho> any one can please help me get firefox to see my plugins please? i am on firefox 3.5.4 and the guys from #firefox told me to speak with you guys due to problem with path
[19:31] <Stavros> rpj8: it installs in a file, no partitioning
[19:31] <sampo_> den exo diko mou net, otan bazo karta exo net mono, wifi tou dimou athinaion
[19:31] <carresmd> anyone noticed that empathy is 'losing' messages?
[19:31] <IndyGunFreak> _jonesy_, i guess if that 500mb of ram that it won't recognize means that much to you, then use 64bit.
[19:31] <brian_> I'm new to linux and need some help figuring out why my system is randomly crashing can someone please help me
[19:31] <roy> ripps: So I"ll have to input swapon then?
[19:31] <Stavros> sampo_: vale to ndiswrapper me windows driver, tha doulepsei
[19:31] <Halitech> rpj8, wubi installs as a file inside windows leaving the partitions intact
[19:31] <rpj8> Stavros: So does it boot windows first then, and THEN ubuntu inside of the windows boot?
[19:31] <ripps> roy: what does `free -m` say? It should tell you if your using any swap or not
[19:31] <sampo_> pos tha to kano auto...newbie..:)
[19:31] <Stavros> rpj8: no, i think it reads the file from the ntfs drive to boot
[19:31] <jedivulcan> 8gb enough to install karmic without many programs?
[19:31] <Bearcat> brian_: you might try the #linux-help room. Might be less busy
[19:31] <Stavros> sampo_: des edo, efkolo einai https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[19:31] <wsch> almoxarife, i cant check on this comp, no virtualbox here atm, dunno if you can choose USB / PS2 keyboard on virtualbox, never had keyboard issues
[19:31] <sampo_> thanx
[19:31] <LiteHedded> it's weird that wobbly windows looks find
[19:31] <LiteHedded> fine
[19:32] <trism> jedivulcan: should be plenty, I'm only at 3 gigs at the moment
[19:32] <ripps> roy: yes, you should always have your swap on, just in case
[19:32] <Guest17321> not ubuntu related: does anyone know a way to make a domain stop resolving?  Like set the nameservers to something that does not exist?
[19:32] <LiteHedded> but open effects are choppy
[19:32] <IndyGunFreak> !packages | sampo_ you might be able to download it here... I dunno.
[19:32] <LiteHedded> also 3d gaming is fine
[19:32] <Stavros> jedivulcan: mine uses 6gb with a programs and things
[19:32] <roy> ripps: The terminal is stuck at a prompt with no message after swapoff -a. What do I do?
[19:32] <trism> jedivulcan: although that isn't including my /home
[19:32] <th1> crazy2k_, did you get it working?
[19:32] <IndyGunFreak> sampo_, it might be on the ubuntu CD, are you sure the CD is part of your source list?
[19:32] <ripps> roy: oh, to cancel any process in the termil, just hold ctrl+c.
[19:33] <grawity> terminal*
[19:33] <logan__> Hi, just upgraded my Ubuntu to Koala and having a whole range of issues. 1: No sound. 2: Video is strange colors. 3: My menu bar decided to be huge all of a sudden (resolution is fine). 4: Can't scroll to switch desktops anymore. That's the main things I've found so far. Help? :D
[19:33] <linved> cant get WPA to work in 9.10 (Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02) )
[19:33] <G_A_C> roy: it's probably getting everything out of swap and back into main RAM. that can take a while
[19:33] <jedivulcan> thanks guys
[19:33] <mythguy> I'm having trouble playing DVDs with Totem.  Thanks. used1, free 3904
[19:33] <rpj8> gah***
[19:33] <subbu> logan: did you do an upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10?
[19:33] <FloodBot3> rpj8: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:34] <Scunizi> !dvd | mythguy
[19:34] <sampo_> well, I installed 9.10, and I tried to find drivers on the 9.10 cd, but not able...newbie:(
[19:34] <IndyGunFreak> mythguy, did you install libdvdcss2?
[19:34] <logan__> subbu, yes, I did.
[19:34] <ripps> roy: lol, was having trouble with that last megabyte.
[19:34] <mythguy> IndyGunFreak: No. I'll try that now.
[19:34] <KenBW22> can anyone explain why Empathy throws a "Network error" at me when Pidgin works fine?
[19:34] <athlan> hi,
[19:34] <subbu> logan_: can u go to the update manager and check if any more updates are available?
[19:35] <IndyGunFreak> sampo_, well how would you even know what youw ere looking for
[19:35] <wsch> i cant get grub to work
[19:35] <xlq> The new gdm now switches keyboard layouts! Perfect!
[19:35] <raven_> which distri/system easily builds up a performance-cluster?
[19:35] <wsch> i installed grub only on my ext4 ubuntu 9.10 partitiorn
[19:35] <sampo_> I tried for drivers
[19:35] <wsch> and i start grub with BCD (windows bootloader)
[19:35] <sampo_> wireless drivers
[19:35] <wsch> grub starts fine so taht part is working
[19:35] <athlan> is there a way to backup the ubuntu desktop profile somehow? Panels usw.
[19:35] <wsch> but it allmsot immediately gives me a CLI
[19:35] <logan__> subbu, nope, no new updates are available.
[19:35] <wsch> and no error
[19:35] <wsch> s
[19:36] <wsch> so what can be my problem?
[19:36] <IndyGunFreak> sampo_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/bcmwl-kernel-source
[19:36] <wsch> im here asking for the second day allready
[19:36] <wsch> so any help is MUCH appreciated
[19:36] <grawity> athlan: All of your personal settings and data are contained in your homedir -- /home/athlan, or something.
[19:36] <gnuskool> if i wanna dual, which OS goes on first?
[19:36] <G_A_C> raven_: there's a CentOS-based distro dedicated to building clusters called Rocks. I haven't seen anything similar for Ubuntu, apart from Eucalytpus which I think is a different thing altogether
[19:36] <subbu> logan__: looks really strange !
[19:36] <KenBW2> Is Pulseaudio still as buggy as it was in Hardy?
[19:36] <innomen> Seriously this is very time critical, please just say some video capture utulities you're aware of for ubuntu
[19:36] <grawity> athlan: Specifically, panel settings are in Gconf - ~/.gconf
[19:36] <logan__> innomen, what are you trying to capture?
[19:36] <innomen> logan__, audio and video, inverted
[19:37] <ctmjr> innomen, recordmydesktop
[19:37] <innomen> logan__, i had an app that will do it but i forgot the name
[19:37] <Stavros> innomen: from a camera or from the screen?
[19:37] <innomen> ctmjr, not it, thanks for trying
[19:37] <innomen> Stavros, webcam
[19:37] <athlan> grwity so just saving the home folder should be enough? I wanna upgrade to ubuntu 9.10
[19:37] <sampo_> ok...I wil try those...but need to reinstall 9.10 again...:(....hope it works...
[19:37] <logan__> innomen, for video, Cheese Webcam Booth has a few nice tricks up it's sleeve, but it doesn't do Audio, I think.
[19:37] <innomen> i keep thinking lucview or something like that, but i googled it and thats not it
[19:37] <IndyGunFreak> sampo_, try this before doing that
[19:37] <Sashi1> trism: i got a bit of a problem installing using brightside, when i want to run brightside I get "Daemon already running, exiting..." when I use "killall brightside" and start brightside again nothing happens...
[19:37] <sampo_> ok...what...
[19:37] <marcinkuzmisnki> hi all, anyone knows a good solution to disable xsplash (it just so anoying) i like to see what's going on during the boot
[19:38] <roy> ripps: this is what free -m says: http://pastebin.ca/1649621
[19:38] <innomen> logan__, cheese is worthless, thanks though, name off a few others?
[19:38] <sampo_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/bcmwl-kernel-source?
[19:38] <sd32> what does it mean when software "isnt available in the current data"?
[19:38] <trism> Sashi1: k, let me install and test it one sec
[19:38] <G_A_C> athlan: when I'm backing up to reformat, I tend to back up /etc /opt /usr/local and /home - that will get pretty much all personal data, and system config data (plus /opt and /usr/local for any of my self-compiled software)
[19:38] <IndyGunFreak> sampo_, boot the cd, and then make sure the cd, is part of the source list.. then open a terimnal, and type that command.. cuz i bet those files are on the CD
[19:38] <Digit0> anybody else having problems connecting to msn ?
[19:38] <innomen> i mean really anything that will do audio video capture will do.
[19:38] <K4nkr0> Yes
[19:38] <Stavros> innomen: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/camstream/ how about that?
[19:38] <logan__> innomen, VLC would work. :P
[19:38] <Stavros> oh, vlc might work, yeah
[19:38] <koki_> could someone please help me repair my grub2, it just loads and never shows menu, i have vista installed also
[19:38] <innomen> logan__, nope
[19:39] <ctmjr> !webcam | innomen
[19:39] <innomen> vlc wont invert the video
[19:39] <IndyGunFreak> Digit0, w/ what?.. I'm on it no problem w/ pidgin
[19:39] <sabitertan> hi there
[19:39] <innomen> ctmjr, yea i googled and i've been googling
[19:39] <nick125> Hm. I'm having athroughput problem with iwl3945. Anyone else having issues with throughput and iwl3945?
[19:39] <LiteHedded> looks like it's opening applications that's slow. not my graphics
[19:39] <Digit0> IndyGunFreak, using empathy
[19:39] <Stavros> koki_: grub-install?
[19:39] <LiteHedded> lags a little even with compiz effects disabled
[19:39] <sabitertan> ubuntu servers must be very busy
[19:39] <sabitertan> :)
[19:39] <fizzle> guys i get a (initramfs) prompt and a Target file system does not have /sbin/init error when booting the xubuntu power pc live cd.
[19:39] <Digit0> IndyGunFreak, but anyway I have tried amsn and emesene and no luck either
[19:39] <ripps> roy: very nice. next to no swap is being use, 371mb are being used to cache files that have been used and 713mb are still just sitting there being unused.
[19:39] <innomen> i want personal experiance suggestions, or an exhuastive list of video capture software
[19:39] <logan__> In the meantime, I still don't have any audio and my video IS inverted lawl! :D But not my normal desktop. It's frickin' hilarious.
[19:39] <IndyGunFreak> Digit0, empathy absolutely sucks... i'd switch to pidgin.
[19:39] <gnuskool> if i wanna dual, which OS goes on first?
[19:39] <koki_> Stavros: well this kid said i need to hold SHIFT while it loads
[19:39] <logan__> (not really all the funny)
[19:39] <Swindle> anyone get lm_sensors to install in karmic?
[19:39] <sabitertan> i didnt get ppa keys
[19:39] <Stavros> koki_: you can't boot at all?
[19:39] <JonathanEllis> How do I stop partitions on a usb disk mounting automatically? I unmount them but they remount automatically while I am trying to resize them in gparted so it fails. Its very annoying
[19:39] <sampo_> I entered 9.10 cd, what command to enter...I am running on 9.04 now
[19:39] <koki_> stavros let me try this ill be back
[19:40] <athlan> G_A_C what oubt firefox congfiguration and evolution, and tomboy notes? Are they covered too?
[19:40] <IndyGunFreak> Digit0, empathyis about the worst idea team ubuntu has come up w/... and its not ready...
[19:40] <koki_> Stavros:  i can boot, but all it does it just shows Loading Grub. and it goes away
[19:40] <G_A_C> athlan: they're all in hidden folders inside your /home/athlan folder so yes :)
[19:40] <IndyGunFreak> sampo_, http://jetpackweb.com/blog/2009/10/29/ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala-and-broadcom-bcm4312/
[19:40] <Stavros> koki_: hmm
[19:40] <ctmjr> gnuskool, dual boot what
[19:40] <koki_> strav let me try
[19:40] <IndyGunFreak> the first one for "no wireless"
[19:40] <gnuskool> karmic win7
[19:40] <Stavros> koki_: get a livecd and install grub again
[19:40] <Stavros> ok
[19:40] <koki_> Stavros: let me try this first brb ok
[19:40] <innomen> this is incomprehensible
[19:40] <sbt> hi, I just installed koala. I have a lenovo x200 laptop with an intel wireless link 5300. the connection starts to go extremely slow after about 15 - 30 minutes after boot. reboot fixes the problem. is this a known bug?
[19:40] <gnuskool> ctmjr: karmic, win7
[19:40] <koki_> Stavros:  let me try this first brb
[19:40] <raven_> is there a minimal-system which provides networkboot for machines they cannot run it directyl but to start from cd/usbhdd...?