[09:40] <sambagirl> anyone here ever hear of VistA? it is free medical system from NIH. They release it to public for medical people to use for consolidation of medical records and things.. i think now it might be cia trick to get into patients records.
[09:40] <ccooke> tamale: what sort of software?
[09:40] <sambagirl> now i thinking about it.
[09:40] <jowi> ccooke: good question. Gericom laptop...
[09:40] <sambagirl> but i think it runs on ubuntu
[09:41] <ccooke> Ubuntu has everything Debian has, which makes it a very solid server platform.
[09:41] <sambagirl> brb
[09:41] <HappyFool> sambagirl: i'm selling mind-control-ray-stopping tinfoil hats at just $50 a-piece
[09:41] <tamale> mainly just interested in runnin apache, an ftp server or two, and perhaps a couple game servers
[09:41] <esac> because the cia cares about your medical records why ?
[09:41] <jowi> ccooke: it always worked before so i never bothered checking which chipset was in use.
[09:41] <tamale> ccooke:  that's what i heard
[09:41] <graig> hello, i have a question about the evolution mail program in breezy.   is the Spam filtering option any better than it was in hoary?
[09:41] <Belutz> sambagirl, i hope it's not windows vista :D
[09:41] <ccooke> tamale: what are you going to run on this server?
[09:41] <sambagirl> no it's for unix.
[09:41] <tamale> mainly just interested in runnin apache, an ftp server or two, and perhaps a couple game servers
[09:41] <Belutz> sambagirl, i was just joking :)
[09:42] <esac> sambagirl: seriously, why do you think you (or any of us) are important enough to give a crap about our medical records?
[09:42] <gn0me> Should I be getting updates every day for almost everything (I'm in Breezy)
[09:42] <sambagirl> it is for actually another flavor i think. i forget. it was written in some obscure language like umm oh i forget/
[09:42] <ccooke> tamale: right. Ubuntu or Debian will be perfect for that.
[09:42] <sambagirl> well you should be.
[09:42] <tamale> awesome
[09:42] <jowi> ccooke: SiS something... should be 1039
[09:42] <tamale> well i'll try another burn
[09:42] <tamale> i guess
[09:42] <tamale> *shrug*
[09:42] <Belutz> :D
[09:42] <ccooke> did it work in Hoary before?
[09:42] <teh_pwner> sup people
[09:43] <sambagirl> if they get it, they can find out about when you had first getting herpies, and they put it on Xtra and Entertainment :D
[09:43] <[LethAL] > bob2, So how do I get the log if it's gonna be regenerated when I bot?
[09:43] <UltrA> hi, i'm back from reading slashdot now :D
[09:43] <jowi> ccooke: yes. up until yesterday when i updated
[09:43] <ccooke> teh_pwner: Soylent Green?
[09:43] <matrix> hrm i know a lethal :|
[09:43] <[LethAL] > Do you?
[09:43] <matrix> yeah
[09:43] <matrix> he's a owner
[09:43] <gn0me> Every week I have to download like 180mb of updates, just wondering if that's normal.
[09:43] <ccooke> jowi: right. what's in /proc/asound/cards
[09:43] <ccooke> jowi: ?
[09:43] <[LethAL] > I know a matrix too
[09:43] <[LethAL] > Not the same one...  I can't remember :(
[09:45] <jowi> ccooke: seems like it. but alsactl can not load settings and alsamixer fails with error "snd_ctl_open failed for default: permission denied"
[09:45] <ZBlach> my wireless networking would blink in and out of existance
[09:45] <ccooke> jowi: very odd!
[09:45] <graig> is there anything better than spam assassin?,  it totally misses the exact same emails every day.  theres one that is for perscription medicines, and the body of the email is exactly the same every day, and spamassassin misses it every day.
[09:45] <ubuntu> hello all
[09:46] <ccooke> jowi: I've not seen that one before, I'm afraid.
[09:46] <PoTs> bob2:thx
[09:46] <jowi> ccooke: sudo alsamixer seems to work.
[09:46] <ccooke> jowi: what user are you running alsa as?
[09:46] <shad0w1e> question: how do I set up a DNS server???
[09:46] <nalioth> graig: train it
[09:46] <[LethAL] > ZBlach, how badly? would it say connected but not rx/tx anything?
[09:46] <ccooke> jowi: okay! maybe you've been dropped from the audio group
[09:46] <ZBlach> exactly that
[09:46] <ccooke> jowi: make a sec
[09:46] <jowi> ccooke: seems like permissions have changed since the upgrade...
[09:46] <[LethAL] > ZBlach, I got that on my rt2570 card... Now I'm using wired ethernet P
[09:46] <mwright1night> is ku/edu/u/buntu still on target for Oct 13?
[09:47] <mwright1night> Is the latest gnome 2.12 the versino shipping/
[09:47] <ccooke> jowi: ls -l /dev/snd
[09:47] <esac> i need help getting my laptop to go to sleep. ive tried pain meds, sleeping pills and /etc/acpi/sleep.sh and none of them seem to work
[09:47] <[LethAL] > ZBlach, It's not PCI is it?
[09:47] <nalioth> mwright1night: yes it is
[09:47] <ZBlach> unfortunately, I can't run a 40ft eth. cable
[09:47] <PoTs> does anyone know which repository i should use to install ncftp?
[09:47] <ccooke> jowi: (you know about not pasting here, right?)
[09:47] <ZBlach> no, its not PCI
[09:47] <ccooke> !tell jowi about paste
[09:47] <[LethAL] > PCMCIA or USB?
[09:47] <nalioth> !ncftp
[09:47] <ubotu> nalioth: I haven't a clue
[09:47] <shad0w1e> question: how do I set up a DNS server???
[09:47] <nalioth> !info !ncftp
[09:47] <mwright1night> so evolution 2.4 as well,  sounds cool,  ANyone hooked the evo upto LDAP to see if it works properly resolving names as you type the first 3 letters/
[09:47] <ZBlach> PCMCIA
[09:48] <nalioth> !info ncftp
[09:48] <ubotu> ncftp: (A user-friendly and well-featured FTP client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2:3.1.8-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 460 kB, Installed size: 1036 kB
[09:48] <UltrA> !info
[09:48] <[LethAL] > ZBlach, What I did with mine was unplug it, plug it back in and sudo ifup rausb0
[09:48] <ubuntu> when upgrade to Breeze from Hoary Xorg don't work!!!! anyone has the same problem?
[09:48] <Surak> seb128, there's something really wrong with latest librsvg - it's a revival of http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2799
[09:48] <UltrA> !info gmailfs
[09:48] <graig> how do i train spam assassin?  just mark the email as junk in evolution??
[09:48] <ubotu> gmailfs: (Use your GMail account as a filesystem), section universe/utils, is extra. Version: 0.3-2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 128 kB
[09:48] <jowi> ccooke: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2743
[09:48] <cowbud> is it possible to install some extra library to get ffmpeg in multiverse to have access to the mp3 codec..
[09:49] <_jason> does anyone have sound wokring in xchat?
[09:49] <benkong2> _jason; I do
[09:49] <Answer> wokring: competitive stirfry
[09:49] <UltrA> _jason:why do you need sound in a chat client though?
[09:49] <ubuntu> anyone have problem when upgrading to Breeze?
[09:49] <[LethAL] > _jason, you have to give it sounds to paly ;)
[09:49] <[LethAL] > play*
[09:50] <_jason> UltrA:  I want it to beep if someone says my name, but I set the beep sound and when I preview it it doesn't play
[09:50] <ccooke> jowi: grep audio /etc/group
[09:50] <[LethAL] > _jason, it uses your PC's internal beeper speaker
[09:50] <mwright1night> What is likely to be lacking if I migrate from FC4 to unbuntu?
[09:50] <[LethAL] > Does your PC beep when you turn it on?
[09:50] <_jason> [LethAL] :  oh that may be why
[09:50] <benkong2> _jason; select beep on extea words and then select the sound in preferences
[09:50] <mwright1night> SO far on the surface ubuntu seems pretty good
[09:50] <[LethAL] > mwright1night, Well, you'll have better support :P
[09:50] <NsOmNiAc> ccooke thanks again for helping me this morning
[09:50] <ccooke> jowi: do you see yourself there?
[09:51] <rawiramdhan> what do I need to type if i wnat to connect to a ftp server trough mozilla firefox browser?
[09:51] <ccooke> NsOmNiAc: no problem
[09:51] <jowi> ccooke: nope, wrong user listed
[09:51] <[LethAL] > rawiramdhan, ftp.<address>
[09:51] <ccooke> jowi: there you go.
[09:51] <[LethAL] > ftp://<address>*
[09:51] <ccooke> jowi: sudo gedit /etc/fstab and add yourself :-)
[09:51] <mwright1night> Will the next version be May?
[09:51] <_jason> benkong2, [LethAL]  ; no wait still makes no sense.  It should play the sound when I preview it.  yet I hear nothing D:
[09:51] <rawiramdhan> and where my username and password
[09:51] <jowi> ccooke: cheers for the help. so easy when you get some pointers ;)
[09:51] <kramer__> rawiramdhan: fireftp
[09:51] <mwright1night> Ubuntu probably has a tighter release schedule than FC4
[09:51] <[LethAL] > _jason, You get sound elsewhere?
[09:51] <_jason> [LethAL] :  yes in gnome and mplayer totem etc
[09:52] <Belutz> rawiramdhan, ftp://user:password@address
[09:52] <benkong2> _jason; do you hear sounds when you boot?
[09:52] <[LethAL] > Odd
[09:52] <rawiramdhan> thanx:D traying it right now
[09:52] <ccooke> jowi: no problem
[09:52] <benkong2> my sounds are in /usr/share/sounds/ those are what I use
[09:52] <GDorn> rawiramdhan:  you probably can leave off the password and have it ask you for one
[09:52] <benkong2> you may need to move them to ~/.xchat2/sounds/
[09:53] <_jason> benkong2:  ok I will try that, but I'd still expect to ehar something when i preview... I sthere someway to make sure it is using ESD?
[09:53] <benkong2> _jason; no it uses your configured sound
[09:54] <rawiramdhan> its ftp://username:password@adress
[09:54] <rawiramdhan> thanx evereyrone:D
[09:54] <benkong2> _jason; one other thing I did in the preferences there is a default directory set to your home .xchat I did change that to /usr/share/sounds
[09:54] <concept10> Anyone notice performance decrease after recent breezy updates?  sluggishness?
[09:55] <lsuactiafner> concept10 : prolly like 200 programs running in the background you dont need @ all
[09:55] <_jason> benkong2:  you have "automatic" set right, not "external program"?
[09:55] <daved> could someone tell me how to install ubuntu from debootstrap? i'm trying to do it inside a child xen domain
[09:55] <lsuactiafner> liek init
[09:55] <benkong2> _jason; yes automatic
[09:55] <olcan> help, I'm trying to login as root to install nvidia driver but the psswd doesn't check
[09:55] <ScatterBrain> When did Oo2 (1.9.7) get put into Universe?
[09:55] <MadpilotPPC> olcan, use sudo, and your own pw
[09:55] <_jason> benkong2:  let me try what you suggested and restart xchat then
[09:56] <scribbles> whats the command to list processes
[09:56] <benkong2> _jason; I use /usr/share/sounds/gnibbles/life.wav
[09:56] <olcan> let me see
[09:56] <MadpilotPPC> !tell olcan about sudo
[09:56] <concept10> lsuactiafner, nope, just rebooted after upgrade.. 2 major apps open, thunderbird and xchat
[09:56] <svref> Just trying Ubuntu for the first time for a friend's computer ... I gotta say this was the right choice for a total computer newbie.  He may actually understand how things work!
[09:56] <lsuactiafner> olcan : there are packages for nvidia, tho i prefer the nvidia driver from nvidia.com and no apt-get
[09:56] <benkong2> scribbles; ps
[09:56] <WiFiTux> what other webmail software is popular like openwebmail?
[09:56] <lsuactiafner> concept10 : ps auxww ; uptime ; free -m
[09:57] <scribbles> thx
[09:57] <olcan> when I type sudo a bunch of commands appear
[09:57] <alex_> hey. does anyone know how to mount another computers hard drive in ubuntu
[09:57] <alex_> over network
[09:57] <scribbles> alex_: you'll have to use samba for that I think
[09:57] <lsuactiafner> sudo sh nvidia-bleh
[09:57] <scribbles> www.ubuntuguide.org has the instructions
[09:57] <fizzle> hey for some reason when i add stuff to my ~/.Xdefaults file the settings arent being applied
[09:57] <_jason> benkong2:  still not working... oh well.  thanks for the info all the same
[09:57] <lsuactiafner> tell olcan about nvidia
[09:57] <nalioth> scribbles: please dont advise the guide
[09:57] <lsuactiafner> !tell olcan about nvidia
[09:58] <MadpilotPPC> olcan, see the msg ubotu sent you for information on sudo use
[09:58] <concept10> lsuactiafner,  14:57:38 up 39 min,  2 users,  load average: 0.21, 0.73, 0.84...it has to be something
[09:58] <ZBlach> hrm. i've configured my wireless card using iwconfig. How can I save the settings permanently?
[09:58] <benkong2> hmmm, did you try moving  a sound from /usr/share/sounds to your home dir?
[09:58] <concept10> lsuactiafner, Mem:           440        246        193          0          7         89
[09:58] <lsuactiafner> concept10 : dont paste
[09:58] <lsuactiafner> concept10 : run top
[09:58] <benkong2> _jason; then chown user:user user is yourusername
[09:58] <lsuactiafner> and watch whats leeching your cpu
[09:58] <ghb> The installation hangs when booting the kernel. =(
[09:59] <GDorn> mmm.  free beer.
[09:59] <cmatheson> ZBlach: you can use /etc/network/interfaces
[09:59] <cmatheson> ZBlach: try man 5 interfaces
[09:59] <benkong2> _jason; sorry I couldn't help
[09:59] <mwaba> I have one question: After i press Alt+ctrl+F1 i change to the command thingy i then "cd" to my mp3 folder however, how do i start playing a mp3 file?
[09:59] <olcan> this is what I get sh: nvidia-bleh: No such file or directory
[09:59] <scribbles> nalioth: sorry, is it not complete?
[09:59] <_jason> benkong2:  was "then chown user:user user is yourusername" for me?
[09:59] <concept10> lsuactiafner, it has to be something regarding recent xorg update
[09:59] <benkong2> _jason; yes
[09:59] <GDorn> !beer
[09:59] <ubotu> GDorn: I haven't a clue
[09:59] <MadpilotPPC> !tell mwaba about mp3
[09:59] <nalioth> ubotu: tell scribbles about ubuntuguide
[09:59] <_jason> benkong2:  chown the sound files?
[10:00] <scribbles> !tell scribbles about ubuntuguide
[10:00] <WiFiTux> anyone?
[10:00] <benkong2> _jason; just a test sound file that you move to your home dir.
[10:00] <ZBlach> so, there's no "Save All Settings Like This" command?
[10:00] <MadpilotPPC> olcan, "nvidia-blah" is unlikely to be the actual filename...
[10:00] <_jason> benkong2:  k
[10:00] <scribbles> ahh
[10:00] <nalioth> scribbles: if you'll look to your msg windows, you'll see it twice now
[10:00] <benkong2> _jason; when in preferences do you see default sound directory?
[10:00] <mwaba> I can already play mp3s when i'm in gnome, i just wanted to know how to do that when running a terminal session.
[10:00] <scribbles> !faq
[10:00] <ubotu> well, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[10:01] <lsuactiafner> mwaba : mplayer *
[10:01] <benkong2> _jason; sould say Sound files directory
[10:01] <vengeful> play mp3s in a terminal session?
[10:01] <lsuactiafner> mwaba : i use mp3blaster in the console
[10:01] <douglas> I want to build a module/driver for my wireless card, and when I run the make script it says: Makefile:8: /lib/modules/2.6.12-8-386/build/.config: No such file or directory?
[10:01] <_john> what are some good .iso burning applications for mac os x?  my friend wants to use some live cds
[10:01] <nalioth> mwaba: mpg321
[10:01] <GDorn> *sigh*  vnc is not a terminal.  I'm a little worried about it being called that.
[10:01] <nalioth> johns^: let him use Disk Utility
[10:01] <WiFiTux> webmail software?
[10:01] <butcherbird> mwaba: either of those will work you can also play playlists
[10:01] <vengeful> dunno..isnt there a mac os channel to ask in?
[10:01] <mwaba> Erm... so what should i type? "mpg321" and then the name of the file?
[10:01] <cevizoglu> _john, OS X cannot properly burn an ubuntu linux iso
[10:02] <ZBlach> how to install a .tar.bz2 file?
[10:02] <benkong2> _jason; click on the beep event then in the lower part that says Sound file browse to /usr/share/sounds/gnibbles/life.wav
[10:02] <olcan> it worked, but now it tells me to close x sever, how do I do that?
[10:02] <lllmanulll> cevizoglu, Why is that ?
[10:02] <_jason> benkong2:  yep just did that, no success
[10:02] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, u there? this is me shin_Gouki!! from linux this time :))))))))))
[10:02] <benkong2> _jason; that should make the sound appear next to the beep
[10:02] <lsuactiafner> ZBlach : tar -jxf file.tar.bz2 ; cd file-something-version ; ./configure & make & make install
[10:02] <cevizoglu> lllmanulll, not sure why, but data will be missing from part of the cd
[10:02] <_jason> benkong2:  it's there, but when I hit play I hear nothing
[10:02] <ghb> Can someone help me? The preinstallation hangs the computer (it's a laptop).
[10:02] <nalioth> cevizoglu: really?
[10:03] <vengeful> which laptop?
[10:03] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ZBlach about cli
[10:03] <lllmanulll> cevizoglu, I guess it depends which software you use, I did suceed a lot of times (never failed, actually)
[10:03] <GDorn> ghb:  hangs where?
[10:03] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: congratulations, friend
[10:03] <lsuactiafner> !tell lsuactiafner about cli
[10:03] <olcan> MadpilotPPC, it worked, but now it tells me to close x sever, how do I do that?
[10:03] <cevizoglu> lllmanulll, which software are you using?  Disk Utility?  Toast?
[10:03] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth i did make it!! i have ixewm , now & mozilla & xchat, its coooool ^^
[10:03] <benkong2> _jason; and you closed xchat and restarted?
[10:03] <GDorn> !tell me about vnc
[10:03] <lllmanulll> cevizoglu, both
[10:03] <Tortel> !tell me about toast
[10:03] <ghb> GDorn: I insert the CD, boots, press ENTER and then it says "Uncompressing the kernel... OK, booting the kernel."
[10:03] <cevizoglu> lllmanulll, and it worked for you with both?
[10:03] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: welcome to the next level
[10:03] <ja1> hi!
[10:03] <lllmanulll> cevizoglu, Yes, IIRC
[10:03] <lsuactiafner> !tell lsuactiafner about toast
[10:03] <ghb> GDorn: After displaying that, nothing else happen...
[10:03] <mwaba> I tried the mpg321 command but it says "command not found"
[10:04] <nalioth> !botabuse
[10:04] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[10:04] <lllmanulll> cevizoglu, I'm sure I tried with Disk Utility
[10:04] <_jason> benkong2:  still nothing
[10:04] <benkong2> _jason; can you use nautilus go to the /usr/share/sounds dir and play one of the wav files?
[10:04] <nalioth> mwaba: install it
[10:04] <lllmanulll> cevizoglu, Not sure with Toast
[10:04] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, i have to thank u , & also the very nice person : "kemik" he gave me a "low level" ubuntuu guide for SOHO systems with small HW, thx a lot :)
[10:04] <_jason> benkong2:  yes I hear it in totem
[10:04] <lsuactiafner> mwaba : apt-get install mpg321
[10:04] <Ubuntu> !wlan
[10:04] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Ubuntu
[10:04] <nalioth> OSX questions need to go to ##apple or #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:04] <Ubuntu> !wireless
[10:04] <ubotu> somebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[10:04] <lsuactiafner> nalioth : was checking those howtos, good to read them, even i learn things
[10:04] <benkong2> _jason;  that's strange
[10:04] <cevizoglu> lllmanulll, that's odd, Disk Utility would crash when I tried to burn a warty and a hoary iso... on 10.3.8 and 10.2.8
[10:05] <_jason> benkong2:  lol I jsut set it to use external program and it opened totem just fine
[10:05] <mwaba> Okie
[10:05] <lllmanulll> cevizoglu, Weird, I never got this problem...
[10:05] <lsuactiafner> thanks nalioth
[10:05] <cevizoglu> lllmanulll, Toast 6 titanium would burn the iso but it would have major errors preventing software install from working
[10:05] <Ubuntu> where can i get wlan help?
[10:05] <mwaba> So, the command would be something like "mpg321 Will Smith - Switch.mp3"?
[10:05] <benkong2> _jason;  on the general tab do you have beep on extra highlighted words or beep on channel message checked?
[10:05] <lllmanulll> cevizoglu, I guess you tried to download the same ISO again and check md5 ?
[10:06] <cevizoglu> lllmanulll, I burned the same iso from linux and it worked fine
[10:06] <_jason> beep on highlighted
[10:06] <_jason> benkong2:  beep on highlighted
[10:06] <lllmanulll> cevizoglu, Curious... But I believe it is a local problem, since I never heard of this before
[10:06] <benkong2> _jason; ok is your _jason in there and check beep on channel message
[10:06] <GDorn> !tell me about NIS
[10:06] <Ubuntu> where can i get wlan help?
[10:06] <Ubuntu> where can i get wlan help?
[10:06] <nalioth> Ubuntu: watch your enter key, it seems to be stuck
[10:07] <_jason> benkong2:  ok just did that (_jason)
[10:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Ubuntu about repeat
[10:07] <benkong2> _jason;
[10:07] <_jason> benkong2:  nope
[10:07] <GDorn> !tell me about ypbind
[10:07] <benkong2> _jason; leave it set and maybe when you reboot it'll work. That's all I did
[10:07] <_jason> benkong2:  I also don't get sound in flash player... it's probably related
[10:07] <nalioth> ubotu: tell GDorn about msg the bot
[10:07] <_jason> benkong2:  ok, thanks again
[10:08] <benkong2> _jason; np wish I could help
[10:08] <nalioth> you guys quit sniping at ubotu. there is a list of his commands on the web
[10:08] <cmatheson> mwaba: you'd have to escape the spaces or put quotes around the filename after the mpg321
[10:08] <mwaba> Okie
[10:08] <mwaba> Thanks alot.
[10:08] <nalioth> !ubotu
[10:08] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:08] <ghb> What happens when you boot with "linux acpi=off"?
[10:09] <nalioth> you guys read the website and quit !guessing
[10:09] <sorush20> guys I can't log in as the admin user in samba in KDE, can someone help, it asks for the admin pass I type it in and it doesn't allow access..
[10:10] <mwaba> LOL! i now have a major problem, i know how to start the file but don't know how to stop ot.
[10:10] <GDorn> can ubuntu use NIS to handle logins controlled from a central debian server?
[10:10] <nalioth> mwaba: try 'q' or ctrl-c
[10:10] <mwaba> Thanks for that.
[10:10] <mwaba> Worked.
[10:11] <mwaba> Thanks alot guys.
[10:11] <mwaba> Bye
[10:12] <Answer> how to change the root password?  what if i'm not in sudoers group?
[10:12] <Answer> how to change the root password?  what if i'm not in sudoers group?
[10:13] <ScatterBrain> Answer: in Ubuntu you need to be amemeber of the 'adm' group to run sudo.
[10:13] <nalioth> Answer: dont repeat
[10:13] <butcherbird> Answer: no root password
[10:13] <kbrooks> butcherbird: you can set one
[10:13] <Answer> Can't I do some magical sudo su - type stuff?
[10:14] <butcherbird> Answer: but you shouldnt activate it
[10:14] <Answer> butcherbird:  It is activated already and I don't know it.
[10:14] <ScatterBrain> Answer you should be able to "sudo passwd", give your password and then change root's password from there.
[10:14] <Answer> hmm how about sudo passwd root
[10:15] <Shin_Gouki> hi i want to change the refreshrate of my icewm desktop, i did change "xorg.conf" what do i need to do now?
[10:15] <FhaeTon> Does Ubuntu 64 have SLI support or does the 1386 have SLI support?
[10:15] <Answer> How can I add myself to the adm group?
[10:15] <Answer> sudo usermod ?
[10:15] <Tortel> probably
[10:15] <esac> is software suspend 2 built into the default breezy install ?
[10:16] <tamale> gah!   now it's handing at "retrieving vim"
[10:16] <tamale> 6% on the installing the base system
[10:16] <tamale> hanging at
[10:17] <GDorn> is there a terminal server for ubuntu that isn't vnc?  I'm not real excited about the idea of having to stay logged in with a locked screen...  plus, it'd be nice to allow someone to be on my computer while remotely connected, like with terminal services under win2k3
[10:17] <sorush20> how do I enable root access for samba configuration
[10:17] <Shin_Gouki> hi how do i restart the x?
[10:17] <ScatterBrain> Answer: you shoud be by default
[10:17] <[LethAL] > Shin_Gouki, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[10:17] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:17] <Shin_Gouki> thx  lethal!
[10:17] <Answer> ScaterBrain: If I weren't by default, how would I add myself to the adm group?  sudo usermod something?
[10:17] <Shin_Gouki> :)
[10:17] <tamale> that's it.. i'm convinced this cd-rom drive just sucks major arse
[10:18] <tamale> i'll hook up a different one for my install
[10:18] <ScatterBrain> Answer: don't think you can...
[10:18] <[LethAL] > tamale, install from iso files
[10:18] <tamale> i am lethal
[10:18] <[LethAL] > tamale, no, the ones on the hdd
[10:18] <esac> GDorn: ltsp.sourceforge.net
[10:18] <propagandhi> cant u add yourself with groupadd or something like that
[10:18] <ScatterBrain> Answer: without hacking anyway.
[10:18] <[LethAL] > tamale, as in expert install and then choose the iso-scan and load-iso (or something) modules
[10:18] <tamale> what, copy the iso's to the disk first?
[10:18] <tamale> hmm
[10:18] <FhaeTon> which do I choose for primary network interface: eth0: nVidia Corp 0057 or eth1: Marvell Tech Grp. Gigabit Ethernet 10/100?
[10:19] <propagandhi> or you can do it with webmin
[10:19] <GDorn> oh, I thought ltsp was just a way to boot over PXe.  I'll hafta take a closer look.  Thanks.
[10:19] <tamale> i just wish it'd work
[10:19] <tamale> this is the third distro i've tried
[10:19] <tamale> hah
[10:19] <[LethAL] > tamale, strangely enough, same here
[10:19] <esac> tamale: are you sure your computer isn't borked ?
[10:19] <[LethAL] > However I didn't know how to get the other 2 on the net
[10:19] <tamale> no, but how would i know
[10:19] <FhaeTon> admins must be out
[10:19] <tamale> i got pretty far with gentoo
[10:20] <tamale> but when i got to compiling my own kernel i realized i was in over my head and gave up
[10:20] <tamale> then tried fedory.. couldn't even get to the install screen
[10:20] <jowi> ccooke: was occupied in skype for awhile. adding the users to the audio group worked like a charm. no idea why they had dissappeared from there. thanks again.
[10:20] <tamale> fedora
[10:20] <esac> why were you compiling your own kernel? the genkernel should have been just fine
[10:20] <tamale> that's just it
[10:20] <tamale> the emerge kept bombin out
[10:20] <esac> ubuntu really is the best choice tho
[10:20] <Shin_Gouki> hi is there a apt-get command for installing firefox??
[10:20] <tamale> said it was supposed to create a symbolic link
[10:21] <tamale> and it wasn't
[10:21] <mahangu> Shin_Gouki, apt-get install firefox
[10:21] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[10:21] <tamale> so 'genkernel all' just failed immediately
[10:21] <mahangu> firefox is the debian package name
[10:21] <mahangu> oh wait
[10:21] <mahangu> not sure
[10:21] <mahangu> do an apt-cache search firefox first
[10:21] <tamale> ugh i'll have to look into it later i guess
[10:21] <tamale> thx everyone
[10:21] <tamale> peace
[10:21] <mahangu> nalioth, gotit
[10:21] <mahangu> :)
[10:21] <olcan> how can I check if I installed the nvidia driver correctlly, becuse I did the log out, control alt backspace, and there was no splash?
[10:22] <gearry> how can I get nautilus to provide me with the standard desktop icons: home, trash, etc.?
[10:23] <sorush20> how do I share a printer from my ubuntu machine to the windows machine.. I don't think I need samba, am I right or wrong?
[10:23] <gearry> they seem to be removed by default in ubuntu
[10:23] <lllmanulll> gearry, You mean on the desktop ?
[10:24] <fantasai> how do I put the computer on standby?
[10:24] <cmatheson> sorush20:you will need to share it w/ samba unless you install cups on your windoze box
[10:24] <lllmanulll> fantasai, Not sure your hardware can support this, but try Log out --> Suspend
[10:24] <ghb> If I install Ubuntu by booting it with parameter "linux acpi=off noacpi", does that mean that I will have no power manager on my laptop? 0.o
[10:24] <fantasai> lllmanulll: I have the option to "hibernate"
[10:24] <fantasai> lllmanulll: but that's not what I want
[10:25] <lsuactiafner> olcan : you cant install the driver without exiting X first.
[10:25] <gearry> lllmanulll: yes, on the desktop
[10:25] <fantasai> lllmanulll: I want to suspend with the RAM still going, not suspend to disk
[10:25] <lllmanulll> fantasai, What is the difference ?
[10:25] <gearry> but I just found the FAQ on that, so I may be all set
[10:25] <lsuactiafner> olcan : and you need to change /etc/X11/xorg.conf , look for nv change to nvidia
[10:25] <fantasai> lllmanulll: suspend to disk copies the RAM to the hard disk and shuts down completely
[10:25] <scribbles> Oct 03 16:25:09.131 [warn]  /var/lib/tor is not owned by this UID (1000). You must fix this to proceed.
[10:25] <scribbles> how do I fix that?
[10:25] <[LethAL] > scribbles, did you install the package?
[10:26] <lllmanulll> fantasai, I see, sorry I don't know how to do that :)
[10:26] <scribbles> yea I installed from apt-get
[10:26] <[LethAL] > scribbles, it should run itself
[10:26] <scribbles> a few days ago, and I just typed tor in terminal
[10:26] <fantasai> lllmanulll: suspend will just shut down all computer processes and tell the computer to feed just enough power to keep the RAM going
[10:26] <[LethAL] > scribbles, it's a daemon, I have it running here
[10:26] <fantasai> lllmanulll: basically, the computer goes to sleep
[10:26] <lllmanulll> gearry, I don't know whether there is an easy option, but you can change this from gconf
[10:26] <scribbles> strange.
[10:26] <fantasai> lllmanulll: I just installed Ubuntu yesterday, I can't figure out where the power management is
[10:27] <fantasai> lllmanulll: before that, I ran gentoo, where I could just type 'apm -s' and the computer would go to sleep
[10:27] <scribbles> is there permissions i need to set on the dir?
[10:27] <lllmanulll> gearry, System tools --> GConf editor
[10:27] <[LethAL] > scribbles, It has its own user... just add <IP_ADDRESS> 9050 as a SOCKS proxy in any app you want torifying, but don't bother with it on this irc server
[10:27] <lllmanulll> gearry, Then apps/nautilus/desktop
[10:27] <lllmanulll> gearry, Then tick the boxes you need
[10:27] <lllmanulll> gearry, got it ?
[10:28] <scribbles> well I need privoxy don't I?
[10:28] <lllmanulll> fantasai, have you tried installing apm on Ubuntu ?
[10:28] <[LethAL] > scribbles, It's a http proxy, you don't need it but it's highly recommended
[10:28] <[LethAL] > It blocks ads for one
[10:28] <scribbles> yea I use it in windows
[10:28] <scribbles> I'm new to linux
[10:28] <sorush20> should iran be able to produce reactor grade uranium, using ubuntu software
[10:29] <[LethAL] > sorush20, I doubt it
[10:29] <ghb> Does anyone know how well Ubuntu works with laptops?
[10:29] <scribbles> ghb: I installed it yesterday on my friends laptop just fine
[10:29] <lllmanulll> ghb, Quite well :) Depends which ones
[10:29] <scribbles> sound didn't auto recognize though
[10:29] <lllmanulll> ghb, If the laptop is actually supported, it just rocks
[10:29] <propagandhi> ghb: it works wonderfully with my current HP laptop, and worked perfectly with my Dell Inspiron 5150 when i had it
[10:29] <_jason> ghb:  ubuntu hoary is running fine right now on my inspiron 8200
[10:29] <benkong2> scribbles; I am running it on an HP zv5000 with no problems
[10:29] <olcan> lsuactiafner, how do I change that
[10:29] <butcherbird> ghb: ubuntu would be my distro of choice for a laptop
[10:29] <fantasai> lllmanulll, it's installed
[10:30] <ghb> Well, I'm facing some problems with my laptop...
[10:30] <fantasai> lllmanulll, but it's not built into the kernel
[10:30] <fantasai> lllmanulll, the kernel uses ACPI, I guess
[10:30] <lllmanulll> fantasai, Ah, I see, well then you need to recompile it :)
[10:30] <fantasai> but there has *got* to be a UI for this somewhere, it's just that basic
[10:30] <org__> what package do i need so my gnome tabs hilights or lets say flashes?
[10:30] <fantasai> uh, no
[10:30] <scribbles> lethal
[10:30] <scribbles> what does that mean though
[10:30] <fantasai> you use either ACPI or APM
[10:30] <fantasai> but not both
[10:30] <[LethAL] > Ya
[10:30] <scribbles> should I reinstall it?
[10:30] <benkong2> scribbles; try www.linuxonlaptops.com
[10:30] <lllmanulll> fanopanic, Or try to use acpi -- I'm not really familiar with standby modes
[10:30] <[LethAL] > No no, it should be allready running now
[10:30] <scribbles> how do i check
[10:31] <sorush20> how can I make an official ubuntu wiki
[10:31] <[LethAL] > Um... I forgot :(
[10:31] <lllmanulll> sorush20, You mean create a new page on the wiki ?
[10:31] <simonp> hi. how can i downgrade a packaged kernel? Or is it possible to keep 2 versions at the same time?
[10:31] <propagandhi> ps -aux | grep tor?
[10:31] <Shin_Gouki> cool! my ubuntu is only 580 MB WITH GUI :D
[10:31] <[LethAL] > That's the one, thanks propagandhi
[10:31] <[LethAL] > Shin_Gouki, well done!
[10:31] <propagandhi> not a worry, i was questioning myself there
[10:32] <[LethAL] > Hehe
[10:32] <org__> shall i ask it again?
[10:32] <Bnonny> query: lt_modem.ko and lt_serial.ko in linux-restricted-modules
[10:32] <sorush20> lllmanulll: yes..
[10:32] <Bnonny> why are they not in Breezy, but they are in Hoary?
[10:32] <Shin_Gouki> was damn hard work, also mozilla+firefox did take about 120 MB of this
[10:32] <ghb> Is it okay to disable ACPI when running Ubuntu on a laptop?
[10:32] <scribbles> 115       7221  0.0  2.0   8508  6648 ?        S    01:15   0:23 /usr/sbin/tor
[10:32] <scribbles>    ????
[10:32] <scribbles> is that it?
[10:32] <[LethAL] > I'd say so
[10:32] <lllmanulll> sorush20, Well I guess you just need to subscribe with a username/password, and you can create the page you want
[10:32] <org__> what package do i need so my gnome tabs hilights or lets say flashes?
[10:32] <Devin_> hi
[10:32] <lllmanulll> sorush20, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[10:32] <scribbles> so tor sets itself to run on boot?
[10:33] <[LethAL] > Yeah
[10:33] <Devin_> any1 knows if mono debugger works with the default breezy kernel?
[10:33] <scribbles> now I need to configure privoxy
[10:33] <kemik> org__:  i think that'll be implemented in breezy
[10:33] <[LethAL] > scribbles, you remember how to?
[10:33] <kemik> org__:  so just hold til the 13th
[10:33] <scribbles> no
[10:33] <propagandhi> kemik: you're right, it is implemented
[10:33] <scribbles> I remember there's a socks4a forwarding line that gets added
[10:33] <org__> kemcco_home, 13th of this month?
[10:33] <org__> kemik*
[10:33] <kemik> org__:  yes
[10:33] <[LethAL] > scribbles, yup
[10:34] <org__> and why i should wait
[10:34] <org__> it was working before
[10:34] <kemik> org__:  because it's not really stable yet
[10:34] <org__> kemik did you understand what i mean exactly
[10:34] <[LethAL] > scribbles, add "forward-socks4a / localhost:9050 ." to the top of /etc/privoxy/config
[10:34] <[LethAL] > :D
[10:35] <[LethAL] > With the dot, that's important
[10:35] <kemik> org__:  say if your nick is highlighted the gnome-taskbar for xchat will flash aswell?
[10:35] <scribbles> done
[10:35] <kemik> org__:  or an action occurs in a gaim window etc ?
[10:35] <scribbles> so now I just need to configure firefox and gaim and what not
[10:36] <[LethAL] > scribbles, yeah, there's info on the site for both them
[10:36] <[LethAL] > http://tor.eff.org
[10:37] <ghb> If I can't install ACPI on my laptop with Ubuntu, does that mean that my battery will be consumed in an instance?
[10:37] <olcan> lsuactiafner, it still appears nv
[10:38] <propagandhi> breezy is very close to stable now, I currently have no issues, although i know there are people who may
[10:39] <kemik> propagandhi:  yeah.. and i think it's better to recommend them to wait
[10:39] <[LethAL] > propagandhi, I don't have any either :D
[10:39] <scribbles> I installed breezy two days ago, first linux install I didn't erase within 2 hours
[10:39] <MikeStyle> hey guys, i updated my sources.list file to point to breezy instead of hoary and then did killall kde then when i tried to apt-get update it didnt work, so now im stuck without a display manager, so i have to run off a live cd. can anyone help? i think its my sources.list file.
[10:39] <kemik> only 10days
[10:39] <propagandhi> absolutely, i'm not recommending anyone to upgrade
[10:39] <kemik> ...
[10:39] <MikeStyle> i heard breezy was incredible
[10:39] <kemik> when you speak of the devil...
[10:39] <kemik> ;)
[10:39] <propagandhi> but i've been on breezy for months now
[10:39] <propagandhi> and it rocks
[10:39] <kemik> propagandhi:  living on the edge ;)
[10:40] <propagandhi> seriosuly, I'm normally very conservative when getting into any unstable branch
[10:40] <scribbles> lethal: have you setup SwitchProxy for firefox?
[10:40] <kemik> MikeStyle:  why did you killall kde?
[10:40] <Lars_G> short one.
[10:40] <propagandhi> but i havent had any major concerns at all with breezy
[10:40] <kemik> MikeStyle:  anyway, what's the error wehn trying to apt-get update? paste on pastebin
[10:40] <ghb> *yaaay* My first installation of Ubuntu just finished. ^^
[10:41] <[LethAL] > yay
[10:41] <Lars_G> if I "sudo perl -MCPAN -e 'shell'" it's more logical to use /root/.cpan than /home/<me>/.cpan isn't it?
[10:41] <kemik> propagandhi:  i tried somewhere in the middle of summer.. left me with a nonworking X
[10:41] <org__> It doesn't flash!
[10:41] <Lars_G> Seveas: Hi there, how's life?
[10:41] <ghb> Now I just need to download 422 updates... =/
[10:41] <MikeStyle> kemik, i read it on some instructions to killall kde
[10:41] <butcherbird> MikeStyle: if you had any repos added other than univers and multiverse you might need to comment them out
[10:41] <kbrooks> MikeStyle: do you remember the link?
[10:42] <MikeStyle> uhm let me check
[10:42] <propagandhi> kemik: thats tough, but i doubt you'd see that now
[10:42] <MikeStyle> i googled how to install from hoary to breezy
[10:42] <kbrooks> MikeStyle: which result did you choose?
[10:42] <mattyJ> is there anyway to open multiple totem players?
[10:42] <Buuyo^> Hey. Firefox seems to be bugged out :|
[10:42] <MikeStyle> uhm
[10:42] <MikeStyle> it was a forum kbrooks :(
[10:43] <MikeStyle> and the admin posted how to do it so i figured why not
[10:43] <Buuyo^> I just apt-get upgraded it, and now it has an XUL error when I try to download a file.
[10:43] <kbrooks> MikeStyle: ubuntu forums?
[10:43] <[LethAL] > Uh-oh... X update!
[10:43] <MikeStyle> kbrooks, im not sure, i think so
[10:43] <joaospinto> ppl i have a great problem!
[10:43] <org__> where can i find the configuration file of gnome?
[10:44] <Shin_Gouki> hi i need a GUI HTML Browser which uses LOW HW resources for Icewm , ideas?
[10:44] <joaospinto> when the synatic package manager searchs for ubuntu updates
[10:44] <joaospinto> it searches in the wrong website
[10:44] <[LethAL] > Shin_Gouki, Galeon?
[10:44] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: links2
[10:44] <[LethAL] > nalioth, he said GUI
[10:44] <Seveas> org__, .gnome .gconfd .gnome2 .gnome2-private (in your homedir)
[10:44] <joaospinto> i think that website has a space in the midle and he doesnt use the space
[10:44] <joaospinto> :S
[10:44] <Seveas> Shin_Gouki, dillo
[10:44] <nalioth> levis: links2 -g will open a graphical interface
[10:44] <joaospinto> anyone can help me?????
[10:45] <nalioth> [LethAL] : you should look into the capabilities of links2
[10:45] <Seveas> joaospinto, check your sources.list
[10:45] <org__> I can't find .gnome
[10:45] <joaospinto> how do i do that?
[10:45] <propagandhi> joaospinto: paste your sources.list file in the pastebin
[10:45] <Seveas> !tell joaospinto about sources
[10:45] <Shin_Gouki> seveeas do u plz have an apt command?
[10:45] <[LethAL] > nalioth, maybe I was being confused with lynx, but I thought they were both text-mode
[10:45] <kemik> 'lu Shin_Gouki
[10:45] <nalioth> [LethAL] : links2 has a graphical mode
[10:45] <joaospinto> how do i open the sources.list
[10:45] <kemik> any luck with getting yuor system running?
[10:45] <joaospinto> where is it?
[10:45] <org__> http://java-gnome.sourceforge.net/docs/javadoc/org/gnu/gnome/App.html#flash(String) see here Seveas do you know what does that means exactly pls??
[10:45] <Seveas> Shin_Gouki, apt-get install dillo
[10:45] <[LethAL] > nalioth, you just said LD
[10:45] <joaospinto> /etc/sources.list ?
[10:46] <propagandhi>  '/etc/apt/sources.list'
[10:46] <org__> Seveas, and my gnome doesn't do the flash thingy, when someone sent me msg in the gaim, it doesn't even flash to me.
[10:46] <kemik> org__:  do you know how to code Java ?
[10:46] <nalioth> [LethAL] : is it bigger than a breadbox?
[10:46] <joaospinto> tkz!!
[10:46] <Seveas> org__, that's new in 2.12
[10:46] <org__> kemik no
[10:46] <Seveas> so you need breezy for that
[10:46] <org__> Seveas, yes it's new
[10:46] <kemik> org__:  its a api for some class someone published
[10:46] <FarrisG> Can anyone help me get wireless working with 5.10?
[10:46] <[LethAL] > Scuse me nalioth?
[10:46] <kemik> org__:  are you running Breezy ?
[10:46] <org__> whats the new Seveas ??
[10:47] <Seveas> org__, that page is for java programmers, so useless for you
[10:47] <org__> kemik, what is breezy for gods sake
[10:47] <nalioth> [LethAL] : i have no idea what you're talking about
[10:47] <Seveas> org__, that's new in 2.12 <-- the flashing
[10:47] <org__> Seveas, do you know what i mean..
[10:47] <kbrooks> MikeStyle: this: http://ubuntuforums.org/printthread.php?t=65368 ?
[10:47] <org__> Seveas, i mean i want if someone sent me msg on gaim it flashes like old days on fc4
[10:47] <Seveas> org__, do you even know it yourself?
[10:47] <kemik> org__:   you need Breezy (or the new Gnome release) for the flashing
[10:47] <pr0tocol> what's going on everyone?
[10:47] <benplaut> nalioth: bot
[10:47] <org__> kemik, in fc4 it's the new gnome there?
[10:47] <org__> Seveas, I need to know that someone msgs me:(
[10:47] <joaospinto> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[10:47] <joaospinto> deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ source/
[10:47] <org__> thats all
[10:47] <benplaut> nalioth: are you a bot?
[10:47] <kemik> org__:  no, that would be anohter windowmanager
[10:47] <joaospinto> i think it opens without the
[10:48] <nalioth> benplaut: no i'm just lost
[10:48] <Seveas> org__, then upgrade to breezy
[10:48] <Seveas> see the topiv
[10:48] <joaospinto> without the space
[10:48] <Seveas> topic
[10:48] <org__> Seveas, how can i do that
[10:48] <Seveas> see the topic <----------
[10:48] <org__> kemik, i'm in gnome now, how do you want me to be in another windowmanager
[10:48] <joaospinto> ppl anyone knows why??
[10:48] <kemik> jeez
[10:48] <org__> Seveas, i'm too noob for that, i want some one to feed-help me
[10:48] <org__> spoon-feed
[10:48] <org__> haha
[10:48] <Seveas> org__, that page does that
[10:48] <pr0tocol> joaospinto, what's the problem you're having?
[10:48] <thechitowncubs> who here runs at 1600x1200?
[10:48] <Seveas> joaospinto, because that's how repositories work
[10:48] <org__> Seveas, and do you recommend me to upgrade to breezy
[10:49] <org__> breezy = a window manager that is??
[10:49] <kbrooks> no
[10:49] <joaospinto> it always gives me an error when it searches in the sources website
[10:49] <kemik> i'd recommend yuo to wait til it's stable
[10:49] <org__> kemik do u recommend me that?
[10:49] <kemik> ie: on the 13th
[10:49] <pr0tocol> thechitowncubs, I run a higher res... :P
[10:49] <joaospinto> seveas how can i correct the prob?
[10:49] <kbrooks> breezy = next ver of ubuntu
[10:49] <butcherbird> org__: breezy = ubuntu 5.10
[10:49] <thechitowncubs> pr0tocol, what ??
[10:49] <org__> kemik, ok but why in fc4 the tabs flashes and here no?
[10:49] <org__> butcherbird, AHA!
[10:49] <kemik> org__:  and i'd recommend you to read *alot* about linux and ubuntu in particular
[10:49] <Seveas> joaospinto, go to winehq and get the correct sources.list lines...
[10:49] <org__> butcherbird, man u less words but you helpful
[10:49] <joaospinto> is there any alternative or something to that website?
[10:49] <org__> butcherbird, so what i'm using now??
[10:49] <pr0tocol> joaospinto, then it could be that the source doesn't exist anymore
[10:49] <kemik> org__:  probably hoary (5.04)
[10:50] <org__> kemik what i didnt understand this
[10:50] <pr0tocol> thechitowncubs, I'm using a higher resolution
[10:50] <org__> kemik how did u know
[10:50] <org__> u magical
[10:50] <butcherbird> sorry server prob
[10:50] <joaospinto> winehq? this isnt related with winehq :P its related with synaptic packages
[10:50] <thechitowncubs> pr0tocol, ya what is it
[10:50] <propagandhi> I am glad Opera finally went free. Is anyone else using it
[10:50] <kemik> are you trolling ?
[10:50] <bipolar> joaospinto, even the wine in those repos is out of date
[10:50] <GhostFreeman> Someone have ubotu tell me about /etc/fstab
[10:50] <joaospinto> protocol i wrote it just a few time ago
[10:50] <org__> kemik It's not about the ubuntu believe me, it's only the WM
[10:50] <joaospinto> maybe
[10:50] <[LethAL] > propagandhi, I probably would but I'm on Gnome
[10:50] <bipolar> joaospinto, might as well build your own from source
[10:50] <joaospinto> what is ur source?
[10:50] <org__> not trolling im joking for sense of homer
[10:50] <thechitowncubs> propagandhi, no it doesn't look good in gnome for me
[10:50] <pr0tocol> thechitowncubs, 1792x1344
[10:50] <propagandhi> oh, damn
[10:50] <shawnz> <3 Seveas for gksu-1.3.0-1ubuntu10seveas1
[10:50] <shawnz> =p
[10:50] <thechitowncubs> what size of a monitor?
[10:51] <sambagirl> anyone familiar if openwebmail will run under ubuntu?
[10:51] <org__> its not about breezy
[10:51] <org__> its about the wm
[10:51] <bipolar> joaospinto, I installed the wine from the wine.sf.net repo and it's the same version as the ubuntu universe one.
[10:51] <org__> or the gaim
[10:51] <pr0tocol> thechitowncubs, 19 inches
[10:51] <org__> im not sure
[10:51] <thechitowncubs> Seveas, what is different in your version of gksu
[10:51] <bipolar> joaospinto, I'm building the latest from source now.
[10:51] <kemik> org__:  and gnome is a newer version in breezy
[10:51] <joaospinto> can u copy your sources.list file?
[10:51] <Seveas> shawnz, how the *@@! did you know that?
[10:51] <org__> i cant install gnome in hoery?
[10:51] <thechitowncubs> pr0tocol, holy shit, i have a 19 inch and i tried to run at 1600 but it was really hard on my eyes
[10:51] <org__> the newer gnome
[10:51] <scribbles> heh, you can set APT to use Tor
[10:51] <shawnz> Seveas, just saw it in my apt-get, so i looked at changelog.Debian.gz
[10:51] <propagandhi> i'm gonna make a bold statement, but i like opera's mail client better than thunderbird
[10:51] <[LethAL] > thechitowncubs, I have a 19" and I use 1280x960 :)
[10:51] <NsOmNiAc> any way to quickly troubleshoot why you can no longer play mp3's when I was able to before ? I don't remember making any changes but other sounds work fine
[10:51] <org__> kemik how can i know which version of gnome i have?
[10:51] <Seveas> thechitowncubs, re-enabled the semi-transparency thing -- i like it :)
[10:51] <pr0tocol> thechitowncubs, heh
[10:52] <joaospinto> bipolar can u copy me ur sources.list ?
[10:52] <shawnz> indeed
[10:52] <GNULinuxer> 'ubotu Breezy
[10:52] <thechitowncubs> maybe its because it was only able to perform at 60hz
[10:52] <shawnz> that transparency thing ruled
[10:52] <pr0tocol> thechitowncubs, mine is working on 60 Hertz as well
[10:52] <kemik> org__:  google is your friend... or someone else in this channel perhaps
[10:52] <Seveas> org__, system -> about gnome
[10:52] <shawnz> anyway
[10:52] <org__> Seveas, thanks
[10:52] <joaospinto> ups
[10:52] <joaospinto> lol
[10:52] <bipolar> deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ source/
[10:52] <pr0tocol> lol @ kemik
[10:52] <joaospinto> those lines are for wine
[10:52] <bipolar> pos
[10:52] <joaospinto> yeh
[10:53] <org__> 2.10.0
[10:53] <joaospinto> shall i uncomment the other lines?
[10:53] <GhostFreeman> I need help mounting an AF partition
[10:55] <Shin_Gouki> kemik! ur from france? lu?= salut? ur LOW level install guide was COOOL!! :)
[10:56] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  nah im not french ;)
[10:56] <Shin_Gouki> kemik ur guide did rock! i create a 580 MB system with 120 MB size taken from mozilla& mozilla firefox!!
[10:57] <kbrooks> kemik: link to the guide
[10:57] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  nice to hear :) i hope it's not too much load time either
[10:57] <nalioth> kemik: are you withholding from the wiki?
[10:57] <kemik> no no
[10:57] <kemik> i didnt write it
[10:57] <kemik> settle down
[10:58] <kemik> http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html
[10:58] <Shin_Gouki> kemik, xchat is fast , terminals also fast...now i need a fast browser.. ...somemone said: dillo but its... NOt what i need
[10:58] <kbrooks> kemik: that aside, please link
[10:58] <kemik> Shin_Gouki:  lynx or links would be fast ;)
[10:58] <kemik> but only textbased :(
[10:58] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: links2
[10:58] <cagliostro> hi all, where can I find the cursor theme of gnome used by default on ubuntu?
[10:58] <Shin_Gouki> links2?
[10:58] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: links2 offers graphics
[10:58] <Shin_Gouki> i try apt!
[10:59] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Shin_Gouki about sources
[10:59] <GhostFreeman> I am trying to write a substantially large tarball to an AF partition, and it keeps telling me "Permission Denied"
[10:59] <GhostFreeman> how do I resolve this?
[10:59] <Shin_Gouki> is links2 better then dillo?
[11:00] <rawiramdhan> How can I change and save my xterm color?
[11:01] <rawiramdhan> I'm using ion3, I dont know if this changes the config file
[11:02] <cagliostro> anyone can help about ubuntu cursor theme?
[11:03] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: use them both
[11:03] <rawiramdhan> How can I change and save my xterm color?
[11:03] <rawiramdhan> I'm using ion3, I dont know if this changes the config file
[11:03] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, no i need more :/ just view a few wikipedia pages...
[11:03] <michael__> How do I install Java on Ubuntu
[11:03] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: can you compile?
[11:03] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, firefox is nice...but the rendering eninge is too slow...
[11:03] <nalioth> ubuntulog: tell michael__ about javadeb
[11:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell michael__ about javadeb
[11:04] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth,  yes i can compile
[11:04] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: then visit www.twibrightlabs.com and get the source for links2. when you configure it, enable graphics and javascript
[11:05] <DJLarZ> I have a problem: I can't access the internet from ubuntu.. I run a multi-operating system, and it works fine on WinXP. I use a regular ethernetcord. I have tried to input "eth0" in the network thingie in ubuntu, but it still doesnt work, even after I set up a static ipadress. can someone please help???
[11:06] <DJLarZ> + all the dns servers, dhcp and stuff
[11:06] <rawiramdhan> My xterm freezes a lot, any1 with the same problem?
[11:06] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth , that is nice :) so links2 is a kind of a "scalable" browser?
[11:06] <rawiramdhan> xterm = xmms
[11:06] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: idk scalable, but it is very light weight
[11:06] <Shin_Gouki> excatly what i need :)
[11:07] <Shin_Gouki> how do i uninstall software with apt??
[11:07] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: right click on the item and select "remove"
[11:08] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth , i need the command promt i installed dillo and want now to remove it
[11:08] <mhz> hi all
[11:08] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth ( my first) linux unitsall ^^
[11:08] <mhz> could someone give me a hand an tell me what is I am doing wrong in a try to install from local netboot???
[11:08] <org__> how can i force to kill something? an app is like stuck and i can't close it, in gnome
[11:09] <QMario> Hello everyone!!! :)
[11:09] <mhz> org__: ps ax   and then you kill the #
[11:09] <QMario> Hello Seveas!!! :)
[11:09] <mhz> could someone give me a hand an tell me what is I am doing wrong in a try to install from local netboot???
[11:09] <[LethAL] > org__, add the force quit button to the panel :P
[11:09] <_jason> org__:  or run "xkill" in terminal
[11:09] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: "sudo apt-get remove dillo"
[11:10] <Shin_Gouki> naloith , thx i will remember it!
[11:10] <mhz> so far I can succesfully assign IP BUT I can't receive the necessary packages
[11:10] <propagandhi> does the CTRL+ALT+ESC function work in gnome?
[11:10] <nalioth> ubotu tell Shin_Gouki about apt
[11:10] <org__> It was work for me before the Ctrl+alt+ESC
[11:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Shin_Gouki about synaptic
[11:10] <org__> but now it doesn't work
[11:10] <QMario> Nalioth, I still have that Java problem. :'(
[11:10] <org__> i don't know why
[11:10] <lsuactiafner> apt-cache search wine doesnt give me an option to install wine? but i added deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ source/ to the sources and did an update
[11:10] <org__> why CTRL+ALT+ESC doesn't work:(
[11:10] <nalioth> QMario: i'm still lost
[11:10] <QMario> I just re-installed it, but it still can't find my Java archives.
[11:10] <_jason> org__:  I don't think that combination does anything by default
[11:11] <rawiramdhan> i want to change my xterm config how do I do that?>
[11:11] <nalioth> QMario: archives or the java runtime?
[11:11] <propagandhi> it definitely does something in kde by default i was interested to know if it does in gnome
[11:11] <QMario> Nalioth, archives.
[11:11] <rawiramdhan> i want to change my xterm config how do I do that?>
[11:11] <khermans> Anyone have suggestions for a Linux encrypted file system?
[11:11] <nalioth> QMario: if you want to run something, it needs to be in your $PATH
[11:11] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, i installed mozilla and afterwards mozilla firefox if i type : ... remove mozilla , will mozilla firefox still work?
[11:12] <[LethAL] > Shin_Gouki, yes
[11:12] <QMario> Java works fine, but when trying to compile programs with TurtleGraphics or BreezySwing, it can't do it.
[11:12] <Shin_Gouki> thx
[11:12] <Shin_Gouki> lethal
[11:12] <lsuactiafner> i dont think it will..
[11:12] <propagandhi> QMario: what error do you get
[11:12] <lsuactiafner> firefox uses mozilla libs and files..
[11:12] <nalioth> QMario: set your environment variables in your ~/.bashrc
[11:12] <QMario> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: TurtleGraphics/StandardPen
[11:12] <[LethAL] > Well I don't have Mozilla installed
[11:13] <DJLarZ> is cross-over office open source???
[11:13] <lsuactiafner> [LethAL]  : maybe not binaries but the libs
[11:13] <Shin_Gouki> ok trin now the links2 thing
[11:13] <lsuactiafner> locate -i mozilla
[11:13] <propagandhi> QMario: doesnt that mean its missing an important class, or one that needs to be compiled beforehand
[11:13] <Answer> exit
[11:13] <propagandhi> DJLarZ: no it isnt
[11:13] <[LethAL] > lsuactiafner, It's deps don't seem to include anything with mozilla in ;(
[11:13] <[LethAL] > ;)*
[11:14] <propagandhi> but you can get it free
[11:14] <QMario> Propagandhi, I don't know.
[11:14] <lsuactiafner> well, i'll be very surprised if it works after you remove mozilla
[11:14] <lsuactiafner> about that wine problem of mine....
[11:14] <WikiFanatic> I LOVE Ubuntu.
[11:14] <WikiFanatic> :-)
[11:14] <mhz> could someone give me a hand an tell me what is I am doing wrong in a try to install from local netboot???
[11:14] <mhz> so far I can succesfully assign IP BUT I can't receive the necessary packages
[11:15] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, did u misspelled?: www.twibrightlabs.com no respond for mee?
[11:15] <coobra> is there a operator here
[11:15] <QMario> Nalioth, so how would I set my environmental variables?
[11:15] <Shin_Gouki> ask
[11:15] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: my bad http://links.twibright.com/
[11:15] <WikiFanatic> I mean, I love Ubuntu. It's the only Linux I like
[11:15] <WikiFanatic> Seveas is an op right now it seems
[11:15] <nalioth> coobra: what did you need?
[11:15] <coobra> that has anything with tha mirror bizzniz :P
[11:16] <QMario> Seveas, are you here right now?
[11:16] <nalioth> coobra: what mirror business?
[11:16] <nalioth> coobra: mirror business?
[11:17] <coobra> nalioth:  i want to be a mirror :P
[11:17] <nalioth> coobra: polish yourself
[11:17] <propagandhi> coobra: too bad you were born a human
[11:17] <QMario> Nalioth?
[11:17] <fizzle> ttis the 586 architexture for pentium4?
[11:17] <coobra> nalioth:  what do yo say :/
[11:18] <nalioth> QMario: i'm not up on what you need to put in your ~/.bashrc, but you need to put some paths so your build environments can find the java it seeks
[11:18] <nalioth> coobra: i dont understand what you want
[11:18] <nalioth> fizzle: 686
[11:18] <QMario> Nalioth, all I need is the CLASSPATH. I just need a format.
[11:19] <coobra> nalioth:  i want to share the ubuntu to ppl
[11:19] <nalioth> QMario:
[11:19] <kbrooks> QMario: /path:/path/foo:/path/foo/bar
[11:19] <QMario> Yes...
[11:19] <Shin_Gouki> then bittorent
[11:19] <Shin_Gouki> coobra
[11:19] <nalioth> "export CLASSPATH=/path/you/like"
[11:19] <Shin_Gouki> be a tracker?
[11:19] <coobra> nalioth:  i hawe a good connection (speed on internet)
[11:19] <QMario> Kbrooks, what do "foo" and "bar" mean?
[11:19] <Shin_Gouki> bittorent coobra
[11:19] <nalioth> coobra: then get a torrent
[11:20] <nalioth> coobra: check here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil
[11:20] <fizzle> nalioth, which arch would i d/l for p4? im trying to install mplayer and theres 586, and 386
[11:20] <coobra> nalioth:  i hawe a universety connection and want to help this fine dist of linux :)
[11:20] <adrian_> hi, from where I can download sun-j2sdk1.5debian package? "sudo apt-get install sun-j2sdk1.5debian" doesn't work [didn't find this package]
[11:20] <nalioth> coobra: 686
[11:21] <kbrooks> QMario: exaples
[11:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell adrian_ about javadeb
[11:21] <fizzle> there is no 686
[11:21] <[LethAL] > adrian_, this isn't debian, remove that part
[11:21] <propagandhi> adrian_: u can install the free java sdk or you can download and install the self extracting binary from java.sun.com
[11:21] <nalioth> propagandhi: we have ubuntu debs available
[11:21] <lsuactiafner> fizzle : its a much better idea to compile the mplayer cvs
[11:21] <propagandhi> yeah, but some people prefer the official, thats the only reason i suggested such
[11:22] <nalioth> propagandhi: these are official (and illegal)
[11:22] <fizzle> lsuactiafner, yeah i know but i want to save time heh
[11:22] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth, do u have any experience with beagle?
[11:22] <lsuactiafner> fizzle : trust me on this, as someone sorta involved in mplayer, you dont want to run packages, the CVS version is more stable and supports more
[11:22] <FhaeTon> ok I called stupid ASUS and they said I need Linux chipset drivers but I have no clue how to make a disc loadable for PC when all I have is a Mac Laptop
[11:22] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: no i do now
[11:22] <taomaster> do u think that with the new release they will have java installed?
[11:22] <pierreb> i seek info about openssl and perl
[11:23] <nalioth> java is illegal to distribute. so no free distro will have it by default
[11:23] <GDorn> any suggestions for getting a turtle beach santa cruz working with alsa?
[11:23] <taomaster> java is not in the open-soucre world?
[11:23] <WikiFanatic> nalioth: it is?
[11:23] <Shin_Gouki> haha
[11:23] <MikeStyle> is anyone here running breezy and has a good sources.list file?
[11:24] <Shin_Gouki> no java chat here get informed on otherplaces
[11:24] <fizzle> should i use aptitude purge remove mplayer-386 to remove mplayer
[11:24] <nalioth> Shin_Gouki: heh you're funny
[11:24] <Shin_Gouki> and read a LOT of sun policys :P
[11:24] <ghb> "I got my Ubuntu working..." Well, so far it is. ^^
[11:24] <nalioth> fizzle: that will work
[11:24] <pierreb> i try to install SSLeya sur brezzy .....
[11:24] <Shin_Gouki> nalioth , i m more then u think ;)
[11:24] <fizzle> ok
[11:25] <fizzle> ill build from source
[11:25] <nalioth> pierreb: is there anyone in #ubuntu-fr?
[11:25] <nalioth> fizzle: make sure you enable the gui
[11:25] <fizzle> nalioth, i know :)
[11:25] <fizzle> im jut lazy lol
[11:25] <fizzle> hate compiling form source
[11:26] <Shin_Gouki> no thats the fun part about linux ^^
[11:26] <nalioth> fizzle: mplayer is one program that can stand to be personally compiled (make sure you have all your libs you want it to use)
[11:26] <coobra> nalioth: do you know if you will hawe any swedish mirrors up
[11:26] <nalioth> coobra: join #ubuntu-nun
[11:27] <lsuactiafner> fizzle : not that much effort and it will be less effort to have a decent compile than having problems with the release and package
[11:27] <mhz> anyone ever set up a TFTP boot/install??
[11:27] <HrdwrBob> yeah
[11:27] <lsuactiafner> fizzle : apt-get build-dep mplayer
[11:27] <[A] ndy80> one question: when I installed gxine it registered with mozilla too. I don't want it to be integrated with mozilla, how can i fix it? thanks!
[11:27] <QMario> Kbrooks, what is the colon for in " /path:/path/foo:/path/foo/bar" ?
[11:27] <lsuactiafner> thats usefull tho.
[11:27] <HrdwrBob> mhz: you just need a DHCP server and (iirc) tcftpd
[11:28] <lsuactiafner> i have a script to download compile and isntall mplayer every night
[11:28] <nalioth> kbrooks: the colon seperates paths
[11:28] <mhz> HrdwrBob: yes, indeed. I successfully get to assign IP (via dhcp server) but it times out in the TFTP......
[11:29] <HrdwrBob> you have to specify the tftp server in the dhcp server
[11:29] <teh_pwner> ok i need help installing "gift-ares-0.2.2.tar.bz2" anybody can help me ?
[11:29] <HrdwrBob> the tftp server has to be running
[11:29] <HrdwrBob> and it has to be running a server which supports the necessary extensions
[11:29] <mumbles> anything else ihave to do to be able to log into my ubntu using ssh ?
[11:30] <virgule> i am doing dist-upgrade to breezy and I see a lot of locale settings failure like this: http://pastebin.com/381821   whats up?
[11:30] <HrdwrBob> sudo apt-get install ssh
[11:30] <mumbles> done that one HrdwrBob
[11:30] <teh_pwner> i need help installing "gift-ares-0.2.2.tar.bz2" :s
[11:30] <HrdwrBob> then that's it
[11:30] <LokeDK> Is there a tool to convert error characters in files? I mean..  should be  .. but some weird happened when the file got created.. so all the "special characters" are wrong
[11:30] <butcherbird> mumbles: i would change the default port from 22, but Im paraniod
[11:30] <HrdwrBob> virgule: they are fine, ignore them for now
[11:31] <mhz> HrdwrBob: you lost me a bit. I apt-got tftpf-ha, set up dhcpd.conf and that was it.
[11:31] <HrdwrBob> mhz: you have to configure tfpd-ha
[11:31] <virgule> ok thx.. now this: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:31] <Seveas> LokeDK, iconv
[11:31] <HrdwrBob> and put the boot files in the right place
[11:32] <jack-> i have an odd question..i just played some "uqm" and my mouse pointer disappeared..i'm in a working terminal window
[11:32] <jack-> what command do i need to get x11 to display the mousepointer again?
[11:33] <invalid|lappy> how would I recursively chmod directories to 755, but leave the files inside the way they are
[11:33] <nalioth> seveas
[11:33] <lsuactiafner> teh_pwner : tar -jxf file.tar.bz2 ; cd file-something-version ; ./configure & make & make install
[11:33] <mhz> HrdwrBob: I have a symlink to /var/lib/tftpboot/ubuntu from /var/www/
[11:34] <mhz> HrdwrBob: but that's all tftp congif I've found :)
[11:34] <HrdwrBob> mhz: you may have to restart xinetd
[11:35] <mhz> and the ubuntu dir is actually a mount point of ubuntu-cd
[11:35] <mhz> HrdwrBob: xinetd??
[11:35] <Kaparen> I having problems getting my monitor to display 85hz, right now it can display 60 and 70hz. suggestions?
[11:36] <mhz> I have no xinetd
[11:36] <teh_pwner> lsuactiafner, ya lost me buddy
[11:36] <HrdwrBob> mhz: or inetd
[11:36] <HrdwrBob> you need one of them to run tftpf
[11:36] <shivi> I am not able to find the package libdvdcss2 waht repo?
[11:37] <khermans> shivi, add universe and multiverse
[11:37] <mhz> HrdwrBob: ah, yes, I have restarted dhcp and tftp
[11:37] <mhz> many times
[11:37] <shivi> I did
[11:37] <shivi> it won't show up
[11:37] <jack-> please..anyone..how can i get my mousepointer back? :<
[11:37] <shivi> let me show u in paste bin
[11:37] <khermans> shivi, you in hoary?
[11:38] <shivi> breezy
[11:38] <khermans> shivi, yeah its not there for me in breezy
[11:38] <shivi> hmm
[11:38] <shivi> so what rpo to use
[11:38] <shivi> I can't play dvds
[11:38] <shivi> :(
[11:39] <khermans> shivi, try using hoary repos
[11:39] <virgule> Please take a look and say what you think is the best thing to do:   http://pastebin.com/382058
[11:39] <shivi> which one...
[11:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell shivi about dvd
[11:40] <grndslm> ubotu: tell grndslm about dvd
[11:40] <Shin_Gouki> hi! how do i paste text into my terminal window(icewm) ?
[11:41] <jack-> is there any way to make x11 display my mousepointer again?
[11:41] <jack-> something like restart gdm, whatever?
[11:41] <jack-> please
[11:41] <fahren> Hi!
[11:41] <grndslm> how 'bout ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:42] <EggMan> does the ubuntu installer let me partion my drives without reformating them?
[11:42] <vengeful> yes
[11:42] <khermans> EggMan, yes, but you probably want the latest Colony 5 CD
[11:42] <khermans> the preview release has issues
[11:43] <EggMan> So i can resize a drive?
[11:43] <khermans> EggMan, yes
[11:43] <grndslm> you can even resize ntfs partitions?
[11:43] <EggMan> ok im using 5.04
[11:43] <khermans> EggMan, oh you should try breezy
[11:43] <EggMan> Hoary
[11:43] <vengeful> shin-gouki i always highlight and then use my middle moust button heh
[11:43] <khermans> EggMan, i dont think Hoary has the resizer
[11:43] <EggMan> hmm
[11:44] <grndslm> i don't think it does either
[11:44] <Shin_Gouki> vengeful
[11:44] <Shin_Gouki> THX!
[11:44] <EggMan> Thanks khermans
[11:44] <fahren> i can't set aterm's font in breezy to -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-120-*-iso8859-2; i have installed xfonts-intl-europe package, and that font is found, however it looks like it was ugly scaled, it doesn't fit for use; i had no problems with that font on first ubuntu version (forgot name)
[11:44] <ubuntu> hols
[11:44] <khermans> EggMan, you have a torrent program?
[11:44] <EggMan> yea
[11:44] <vengeful> mouse even
[11:44] <khermans> EggMan, you running i386?
[11:44] <khermans> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/breezy/colony-5/breezy-install-i386.iso.torrent
[11:44] <EggMan> a 133 mhz!
[11:44] <fahren> also i don't have any problems with that font on any other system i know :)
[11:44] <fahren> any ideas?
[11:45] <khermans> EggMan, ouch
[11:45] <khermans> EggMan, i would try gentoo on that instead
[11:45] <EggMan> i like it
[11:45] <confrey> hi everybody
[11:45] <khermans> EggMan, you ned to conserve resources
[11:45] <EggMan> yea, but it runs
[11:45] <jack-> hrm, still working
[11:45] <[LethAL] > EggMan, I agree with khermans, as long as you can wait a few weels to compile it
[11:45] <EggMan> i dont mind that its slow
[11:45] <[LethAL] > weeks*
[11:45] <confrey> I need help to use pcmcia on my laptop : I can't see card inserted in
[11:46] <jack-> grndslm, what does ctrl-alt-backspace do?
[11:46] <EggMan> thats why i wont use Gentoo
[11:46] <fahren> :/
[11:46] <EggMan> to much compile time on this box
[11:46] <mumbles> is the backports site down ?
[11:46] <khermans> [LethAL] , that is true, but if you have access to a distcc server ...
[11:46] <[LethAL] > distcc?
[11:46] <khermans> EggMan, other option is to not install X
[11:46] <khermans> [LethAL] , distributed C compilation
[11:47] <[LethAL] > Ah, cool
[11:47] <[drunk] logic> muep, doesn't appear to be
[11:47] <nalioth> mumbles: yes
[11:47] <[drunk] logic> er, mumbles,^^
[11:47] <khermans> EggMan, try the colon cd 5
[11:47] <khermans> EggMan, are you trying to resize NTFS?
[11:47] <EggMan> no, ext3
[11:47] <khermans> if it is straight FAT32, thats no problem
[11:47] <Shin_Gouki> hi anyone knows a good guide for installing MONO on ubuntu?
[11:47] <khermans> oh ... nevermind
[11:48] <khermans> EggMan, can you download parted on the original install/
[11:48] <khermans> EggMan, parted will allow you to resize that
[11:48] <EggMan> ok
[11:48] <cas> Hi, my cpufreq scale applet does show me the speed, but i can't adjust it. Is there a way to do this?
[11:49] <lllmanulll> cas, Are you sure your CPU does support scaling ?
[11:49] <khermans> cas, yeah i used to do that in Gentoo, but for some reason i haven't got it working in Ubuntu -- but it does scale automtically and thats fine with me
[11:49] <confrey> I need help to use pcmcia on my laptop : I can't see card inserted in
[11:50] <mumbles> whats the best ftp server to use? thats easy to manage?
[11:50] <khermans> mumbles, vsftpd
[11:50] <cas> Yes, It even scales automaticly, I just want to adjust it manually because my cpu gets to hot (I know this is a hardware problem and will be fixed)
[11:50] <mumbles> thanks thats what someone else just told me
[11:50] <kbrooks> how do i remove N comments from a file with sed?
[11:51] <khermans> cas, oh you can use the cli toold cpufreq-selector
[11:51] <cas> khermans, Yeah, I also used gentoo, thats why i know it's possible. Isn't it possible to do it with a cli command
[11:51] <cas> tnx :) khermans
[11:51] <ghb> How do I install ACPI, or activate it?
[11:51] <Shin_Gouki> hi!! anyone knows a good guide for installing MONO on ubuntu?
[11:51] <[LethAL] > Hmmm
[11:51] <[LethAL] > !mono
[11:51] <ubotu> hmm... mono is implementation of .NET framework on linux. It supports winforms partially. For details http://www.go-mono.com
[11:51] <virgule> anyone else had an issue with wxpython like this one: http://pastebin.com/382075
[11:51] <jmg> hey all
[11:51] <Shin_Gouki> thx lethal
[11:51] <jmg> my laptop powers off after waking up from suspend
[11:51] <[LethAL] > That was a wild guess :d
[11:52] <Shin_Gouki> sometimes people JUST looking for THAT
[11:52] <Shin_Gouki> ;)
[11:52] <jmg> any ideaS?
[11:53] <confrey> jmg, did you comment 'else' line in powerbtn.sh?
[11:53] <jmg> confrey: ???
[11:53] <khermans> cas, did you get the manual frequancy seletion working?
[11:54] <jmg> confrey: where is that? see if you are faster than my find -name :)
[11:54] <khermans> cas,  you still have to know th stepping values
[11:54] <jmg> got it
[11:54] <jmg> yay
[11:54] <jmg> testing
[11:54] <cas> khermans, Yeah, figured it out. Works smooth now on 2000 Mhz
[11:55] <khermans> cas, :-)
[11:55] <teh_pwner> apt-get install gift-ares-0.2.2.tar.bz2
[11:55] <teh_pwner>  <---doesn't work
[11:55] <ToTo> i all, i'using breezy but i have some problem with xmule, xmms, mplayer fonts, someone has any suggestion?
[11:55] <khermans> teh_pwner, shoudltn either
[11:55] <teh_pwner> i need to install my prog :s
[11:55] <khermans> teh_pwner, is it in the repos?
[11:55] <confrey> jmg, you must edit the file /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh; comment the lines 'else' and '/sbin...'
[11:55] <jmg> confrey: still powers off...
[11:56] <teh_pwner> khermans, its on my desktop :|
[11:56] <jmg> do i need to reboot after editing the file? i am using klaptop...
[11:56] <Shin_Gouki> Shin Gouki says: Good night ubuntu Linux Community :)
[11:56] <kbrooks> teh_pwner: that's a file
[11:56] <khermans> teh_pwner, i dont know what package that is
[11:56] <virgule> haa its driving me nut :(   what is the actual problem then what should I do to fix this? http://pastebin.com/382079
[11:56] <confrey> jmg, I don't know..
[11:56] <kbrooks> teh_pwner: what are you doing EXACTLY
[11:56] <jmg> confrey, ok i will look into it deeper... thanks for the hint
[11:56] <khermans> teh_pwner, but you should just be able to extract the binary if is it compiled or extract/compile if it is source
[11:56] <cas> teh_pwner, Is that normal gift?
[11:56] <teh_pwner> idk
[11:57] <teh_pwner> all i know is gift-ares-0.2.2.tar.bz2
[11:57] <confrey> confrey, I don't think so, try /etc/init.d/acpi restart
[11:57] <jmg> confrey: whatever i find i will report as a bug... thanks
[11:57] <kbrooks> teh_pwner: what are you doing EXACTLY
[11:57] <teh_pwner> khermans, trying to install that program
[11:57] <teh_pwner> *kbrooks
[11:57] <kbrooks> teh_pwner: where did you get it from
[11:57] <ToTo> i all, i'using breezy but i have some problem with xmule, xmms, mplayer fonts, someone has any suggestion?
[11:58] <teh_pwner> kbrooks, i got it from some site i forgot what site though
[11:58] <vengeful> tell us your problems
[11:58] <teh_pwner> kbrooks, i think it was sourceforge not sure though


[04:42] <marcoagpinto> Morning!
[07:09] <rdr> marcoagpinto: hi
[07:09] <rdr> good mroning
[07:09] <marcoagpinto> morning
[07:09] <marcoagpinto> :)
[07:09] <marcoagpinto> I am working on LanguageTool
[07:10] <marcoagpinto> tons of false positives in a rule... because I wanted to make the rule flexible :)
[07:10] <marcoagpinto> if it was too strict it would work
[07:10] <rdr> ;; This buffer is for text that is not saved, and for Lisp evaluation.
[07:48] <ducasse> good morning
[12:23] <sdfgsdfg> dam son
[12:23] <sdfgsdfg> this channel is a graveyard
[12:23] <sdfgsdfg> o/
[12:23] <sdfgsdfg> sayanora
[15:16] <nicoz-> [13:23:36] <sdfgsdfg> this channel is a graveyard
[15:16] <nicoz-> hmmm
[15:16] <nicoz-> :|
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> timezones
[15:21] <leftyfb> damn, and I was so sure sdfgsdfg was going to be a serious contributor to ubuntu and the community
[15:22] <nicoz-> he could speak first and present himself at the chanell
[15:22] <nicoz-> at least he could shut up and go out quietly lol :P


[01:37] <plus2equalsme> Got an odd problem with a fresh install of 18.04.1 server. It's seeing an ntfs drive as vfat.
[01:38] <plus2equalsme> (ntfs format confirmed in windows and debian desktop)
[01:39] <ChmEarl> plus2equalsme, ntfs-3g is installed?
[01:41] <plus2equalsme> ChmEarl yes, result of install attempt is "ntfs-3g is already the newest version (1:2017.3.23-2)."
[01:42] <ChmEarl> sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdX  <-- see if there is an ESP and an NTFS
[01:43] <plus2equalsme> Standby, need a couple minutes (drive currently disconnected, stupid of me)
[01:48] <plus2equalsme> hmmmmm, odd response, stand by while I check a few more things
[01:52] <plus2equalsme> ChmEarl sudo fdisk -l shows "/dev/sdb1 63<PHONE_NUMBER><PHONE_NUMBER>  1.8T  7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT"
[01:52] <plus2equalsme> blkid though shows it as type vfat, but, I also got a number of errors when I connected the drive (usb)
[01:53] <plus2equalsme> I can get the errors into a pastebin of some sort if you need to see them
[01:54] <ChmEarl> plus2equalsme,  id=7 is ntfs
[01:55] <plus2equalsme> That's why I got confused. Let me get the errors on device attach into a paste, I'm starting to suspect that's part of the cause.
[02:02] <plus2equalsme> ChmEarl from dmesg as I plugged the device in https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JdRzGdgrsH/
[02:12] <ChmEarl> mount /dev/sdb1 /windows/D -t ntfs-3g
[02:12] <ChmEarl> prep /windows/D first
[02:13] <ChmEarl> mkdir -p /windows/D
[02:15] <ChmEarl> plus2equalsme, if it mounts as ^^ then you can dial in some options for user perms
[02:16] <plus2equalsme> Getting permission denied on mkdir
[02:17] <ChmEarl> plus2equalsme, you can use /mnt, I'm used to OpenSuSe conventions
[02:18] <plus2equalsme> no worries. I did get it to mount using sudo on the commands
[02:21] <ChmEarl> plus2equalsme, sdb1 is a data drive already populated? or its new and empty?
[02:21] <plus2equalsme> Already populated
[02:34] <plus2equalsme> ChmEarl I do have enough disk space elsewhere to temporarily move the data if a format is necessary, but I'd like to keep it as NTFS if possible
[02:35] <plus2equalsme> Should I be able to use fstab to mount it even with these errors?
[02:40] <ChmEarl> plus2equalsme, once you mounted it as above did the filesystem look/behave as you expected?
[02:41] <ChmEarl> plus2equalsme, what you showed in the pastebin is normal when there is no automount
[02:42] <plus2equalsme> ChmEarl There were two directories that I didn't expect, one a windows trashcan (understandable, it was recently on a windows system) and the other is called 'System Volume Information'
[02:42] <plus2equalsme> Good to know the pastebin is normal
[02:42] <ChmEarl> plus2equalsme, try using fstab with noauto so `mount windows/D` does the job
[02:44] <plus2equalsme> ChmEarl just to make sure I understand, if I use noauto in an fstab I would have to manually remount any time I have to reboot the machine?
[02:44] <ChmEarl> I use this with a data drive:/dev/sdb1       /windows/D      ntfs-3g rw,users,gid=users,umask=0002,nosuid,noauto 0 0
[02:45] <ChmEarl> note the `noauto`
[02:45] <ChmEarl> and I put target user in group users
[02:46] <plus2equalsme> understand
[02:48] <plus2equalsme> I'm going to have to finish working on this tomorrow though. Thank you for the help.
[02:48] <ChmEarl> plus2equalsme, manually remount: yes.. a data drive is always needed
[02:49] <ChmEarl> isn't always needed
[02:50] <plus2equalsme> ChmEarl, for my usecase, it is. But, it is easy enough to ssh and remount, just wanted to make sure I knew that it'd be necessary
[15:23] <chiiiiiz> Hello
[15:23] <chiiiiiz> I need help with lvm backup
[15:24] <chiiiiiz> We have a server with 1 hd, 931 Gb. 1 Partition for swap, 1 partition for /boot and the rest is a vg.
[15:25] <chiiiiiz> No, sorry, swap is part of the vg
[15:25] <chiiiiiz> 2 lv : swap and /. / ist 903 Gb!!!
[15:27] <chiiiiiz> We have important data to backup before everything will be virtualized. We can't reboot, since we have jenkins running on the server, and the last time we had an update and a reboot, everything went down, jenkins did not work.
[15:27] <chiiiiiz> My question is: how can I backup the data. Given that 33% of the/ is used. I read about snapshots, but I do not understand were the snapshots are stored.
[15:28] <chiiiiiz> I have no choice, I did not setup the server, and I have to cope with that.
[15:29] <chiiiiiz> can I store the snapshot on a USB HDD? And then mount it and backup the data as an image and as a tar file?
[15:29] <chiiiiiz> Thanks for your insights
[15:30] <chiiiiiz> I have thought about shrinking the / lv, but since there is (according to the doc on the internet) a risk af data loss, I 'd rather not try this.
[15:42] <blackflow> chiiiiiz: first on google for "LVM snapshots"  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/snapshots_backup.html
[15:43] <blackflow> meanwhile, I'd make a rsync backup too.
[15:43] <blackflow> btw... LVM snapshots are to make an atomic copy of the data, not for moving somewhere else by itself
[15:43] <blackflow> so with rsync, you make a LVM snapshot and then rsync it elsewhere
[16:35] <chiiiiiz> @blackflow: THanks, I already read this. What is not clear to me, is if the snapshot is stored somewhere on the volume you are "snapshooting", or if you do have to store it somewhere else.
[16:36] <chiiiiiz> what is the advantage of rsync over other methods?
[16:37] <chiiiiiz> I will have a USB HD available tomorrow with 1Tb of space.
[16:37] <TJ-> chiiiiiz: a snapshot is a list of all the extents used by the LV at a point in time. From then on, if the original volume writes anything then it uses Copy-On-Write which allocates a new block for the new data in the original LV - the blocks pointed to by the snapshot remain the same
[16:38] <TJ-> chiiiiiz: so space will only be consumed if the original LV is writing data because copies of the blocks need to be made
[16:38] <TJ-> chiiiiiz: so, you could snapshot, mount the snapshot, and use rsync to copy files out of it to your USB mass storage
[16:38] <chiiiiiz> so I do it directly from the / lv. No need to do the snapshot from another mount or partition. I will only need another mount or partition when backing up the data after mounting the snapshot
[16:39] <chiiiiiz> TJ-: thanks, it is clearer now. But a rsync of the / does not allow me to 'reuse' the backup for another /, if need be. It is not like a dd.
[16:39] <TJ-> chiiiiiz: correct. the snapshot is another LV as far as the system is concerned, so you can mount that somewhere and do what you need with it
[16:40] <chiiiiiz> I fear a dd of 300 Gb lasts days...
[16:41] <chiiiiiz> dd make an image only as big as the data, or as big as the partition it backs up?
[16:41] <TJ-> chiiiiiz: what you could do, if the VG has the free space, is shrink the file-system inside the snapshot, and the snapshot LV itself, then copy the result over
[16:41] <TJ-> chiiiiiz: there's another, sneaky, way to do this you know
[16:42] <chiiiiiz> The VG is 903 Gb, the lv is 903 Gb, and only used up to 33%
[16:43] <TJ-> chiiiiiz: instead of a snapshot, wait until you've got the USB drive connected, make it a PV (physical volume), add it to the existing VG, then change the rootfs LV to be a mirror with the USB PV used as the other 1/2 of the mirror. Give it time to sync across fully to the USB, then temporarily freeze the rootfs LV, break the mirror, and unfreeze. You'd get an exact copy of the LV on the USB
[16:43] <chiiiiiz> So it has the space. As said, I do not want to restart. So if shrinking the LV/FS does not need a restart, I am go for it.
[16:43] <TJ-> chiiiiiz: I'd suggest experimenting on another PC for either snapshot or mirror sceanrios first, using smaller data sizes, to practice the commands and checking the results, though
[16:44] <TJ-> chiiiiiz: what file-system does the rootfs use? Generally, you can extend, but not shrink, a live file-system online
[16:44] <chiiiiiz> OK  I see the logic, but I need to have iot done until tomorrow, no time to experiment...
[16:44] <chiiiiiz> ext4. It is a ubuntu-server, quite standard, albeit the lvm thing.
[16:44] <TJ-> chiiiiiz: take the snapshot then, use it as the basis for whatever method you decide on
[16:46] <chiiiiiz> can a dd run on a live system?
[16:47] <TJ-> chiiiiiz: right, so you could snapshot, "resize2fs -M /dev/mapper/VG-snapshot", "lvreduce --size XXX /dev/mapper/VG-snapshot" .. read "man lvreduce" for the details. You would need to ensure you do not shrink it smaller than the ext4 file-system
[16:47] <chiiiiiz> I do not think so
[16:47] <TJ-> chiiiiiz: it can run yes but you'll get an inconsistent image. dd from a read-only snapshot would be OK though
[16:48] <chiiiiiz> I think I'll go for a dd of a snapshot, to be able to reuse the dd image to recreate a partition if need be.
[16:52] <chiiiiiz> TJ-:again my question. If a dd my /, will my image be 903Gb or 350 Gb (33% of it).
[16:53] <TJ-> chiiiiiz: word of warning - transferring that amount of data in one go over USB could cause corruption - depends on the USB<>SATA bridge, but I've seen LOTS of those devices overheat and fail when doing large continuous transfers
[16:54] <TJ-> chiiiiiz: the image size will be whatever the size of the containing block device is - in your case, the size of the LV containting the rootfs
[16:54] <chiiiiiz> TJ-, I feared this would be an issue too...
[16:54] <TJ-> chiiiiiz: this is why shrinking first is so useful when you've a large file-system that is only partially used
[16:57] <chiiiiiz> TJ-: so rsync  is in this optic a much better solution. Although in case of a crash we would have to reinstall the server.
[16:57] <chiiiiiz> and maybe rsync is also faster??
[16:58] <chiiiiiz> if I format my USB HDD in ext4, does rsync copy the permissions?
[16:58] <chiiiiiz> or will I have to use a ACL tool to copy the permissions in order to recreate them if need be?
[16:59] <TJ-> chiiiiiz: yes, rsync can/will copy onwership and modes
[17:01] <chiiiiiz> OK, rsync it is!!!
[17:01] <chiiiiiz> Thanks a lot.
[17:06] <TJ-> chiiiiiz: make sure to read the man-page and test on a small samlpe first :)
[17:21] <chiiiiiz> I want to format a encrypted partition ( I know the passphrase), so that the partition is not encrypted any longer. Shall i simply mount it, decrypt with the passphrase, start gparted and reformat my partition? I have read about it but I am not sure this change the encrypting... only that it changes the FS.
[17:35] <mybalzitch> you should be able to just newfs the partition. no need to mount it/decrypt it. Just blow it away
[17:36] <mybalzitch> if you want to retain the data, you'll have to mount it, decrypt it, copy the data to a place holder, then blow away the partition and copy the data back
[17:50] <chiiiiiz> mybalzitch: no need to retain any data, only need to remove the cryptage.
[18:07] <TJ-> chiiiiiz: is it LUKS/dmcrypt? you can use "cryptsetup luksErase/erase ..." respectively
[18:08] <TJ-> chiiiiiz: you'd also likely need to remove the associated entry from /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab
[18:10] <chiiiiiz> TJ-:no entries in /etc/fstab or /etc/crypttab... it was a USB HDD
[18:12] <chiiiiiz> does ntfs FS store permissions? Still not I guess...
[18:13] <TJ-> chiiiiiz: ntfs uses ACLs
[18:14] <chiiiiiz> so if I make my backup on a ntfs formated USB HDD, I can still use the backup with the permissions to restore some data... I have been asked to store the backup on a Windows server... meaning formatting my USB disk in ntfs...
[18:15] <chiiiiiz> or I create 2 partitions on my USB disk. The first in ntfs, and a second in ext4.. just in case...
[18:30] <TJ-> charlton: it won't map Linux ownership/modes, no. I thought you were asking if NTFS supports such things
[18:30] <TJ-> grrr
[18:30] <TJ-> chiiiiz: it won't map Linux ownership/modes, no. I thought you were asking if NTFS supports such things