[12:01] <mcphail> james296: if you are a serious gamer, you need to keep windows
[12:01] <ladydoor> Linuturk: the most recent i386 one, yes...there's also an i686 one
[12:01] <adiddy> i might install 5.10 of ubuntu next month is it easy? or shout i just tsick with suse open 10.1?
[12:01] <bhrobinson> brian98, what does it do?
[12:01] <adiddy> there must be
[12:01] <ladydoor> Linuturk: (which is the same version number)
[12:01] <blurd> can anyone help me?
[12:01] <docgnome> I'm having problems setting up dansguardian with tinyproxy. I'm trying to use ipkungfu for my firewall because it makes it easy to share my internet connection with my local network. Currently I have dansguardian set to block everything, just to see if i can get it to work. It appears that dansguardian is just being by passed though, even though it is running on port 8080 and ipkungfu is redirecting traffic from 80 to 8080
[12:01] <Lysit> I mean the restarting network services
[12:01] <mad_man> ladydoor: i did not know that could be the case. All files don't have a extension to them ?
[12:01] <shut-> i cant i need help myself
[12:01] <shut-> :P
[12:01] <ladydoor> mad_man: that depends. what dir are you looking at?
[12:01] <brian__> to restart network services  /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:01] <adiddy> can update the screen saver?
[12:01] <Lysit> thank you
[12:01] <blurd> say my name if ur talking to me...
[12:01] <nozorro> nozorro: the dns addresses given to you by your isp should still be entered on the win box, despite it being behind the firewall ... or else the win box can't know which address has google.com, for instance
[12:01] <ladydoor> mad_man: and what kind of files are they?
[12:02] <xbehave2> adiddy its easy i did it this morning just to fix grub
[12:02] <brian98> bhrobinson: http://www.xfree86.org/current/Xrandr.3.html
[12:02] <Linuturk> ladydoor, http://pastebin.ca/162843 << does that look right?
[12:02] <brian98> corpsefeeder: Did you get sorted?
[12:02] <mcphail> mad_man: file extensions were a terrible invention
[12:02] <james296> fine I guess I'll split my HD so I have XP professional...
[12:02] <brian__> shut - is your printer listed under system- administration-printing ?
[12:02] <Linuturk> ok, http://pastebin.ca/162843 << is that the most recent everyone?
[12:02] <ladydoor> Linuturk: looks fine to me...
[12:02] <lupine_85>  CorpseFeeder: You still haven't said what kernel you're running
[12:02] <dash|Kye> how does one create a mount point?
[12:03] <Linuturk> ladydoor, thanks
[12:03] <ladydoor> Linuturk: np
[12:03] <bhrobinson> brian98, sweet... let me know if you get it working
[12:03] <adiddy> ok?!
[12:03] <shut-> mo
[12:03] <shut-> no
[12:03] <mwe> james296: that's what most people do
[12:03] <adiddy> i think i'm gonna try open suse
[12:03] <brian__> how do you have it connected to your computer?
[12:03] <mad_man> ladydoor: i wrote the files with kate. they are text files wright ? extension a bad window habbit of mine ?
[12:03] <xbehave2> james install xp 1st i find xp doesnt like installing with anything else
[12:03] <shut-> usb
[12:03] <james296> problem is since I dont have as much space on my HD the OS runs a bit slower...
[12:03] <dmembrane> flash problems here...help?
[12:03] <ladydoor> mad_man: yeah, on text files there'll be no extension unless you specifically put one
[12:03] <shut-> flash
[12:03] <shut-> :P
[12:03] <ladydoor> mad_man: office software like openoffice will append an extension
[12:03] <kaolti> nozorro: yes but i dont know the dns from the ISP cause its set automaticaly.i just have to enable DHCP, i dont enter DNS addresses on ubuntu/windows to connect
[12:04] <xbehave2> HD space shouldnt affect runing speed
[12:04] <mcphail> mad_man: extensions are neither required nor desirable
[12:04] <adiddy> i had isse with flash thumb drive in 6 asw ell
[12:04] <ladydoor> mad_man: but adding extensions to text files (especially config files) will only confuse the system
[12:04] <adiddy> swamp might
[12:04] <mwe> james296: well 10GB is enough for linux unless you keep your movie collection there or something
[12:04] <adiddy> 80 gb enough?
[12:04] <brian__> shut - if you try to add a new printer, does a detected printer show up ?
[12:04] <nozorro> kaolti: ah sorry, if you are on dsl for instance this might not be necessary
[12:04] <mad_man> mcphail: very well put
[12:04] <CorpseFeeder> kernel is 2.6.15-26 686
[12:04] <james296> I have a 160gb hd, what percentage should I split the HD at?
[12:04] <adiddy> cable net is a tad better
[12:04] <kaolti> nozorro: :) thats a relief.thanks again
[12:04] <mwe> james296: just 10GB for linux I'd say
[12:04] <shut-> no
[12:04] <zoidberg> xopher: what is cedega atm....what does that have to do with STEAM?
[12:05] <adiddy> gonna use suse
[12:05] <lupine_85> kaolti: if you set the DNS to be the same as the router's IP, it should work fine
[12:05] <mcphail> mad_man: linux is clever enough to work out what a file is by examining its content
[12:05] <nozorro> kaolti: try to reach dsl router from win box
[12:05] <rixxon> man, networkmanager is sweet when you get it working!
[12:05] <xbehave2> 10gb linux is what im runing i have no probs
[12:05] <adiddy> emugetting a 80 gb drive
[12:05] <kaolti> nozorro:ok
[12:05] <bean-oh> anyone get ubuntu running on a IBM hs20 blade?
[12:05] <adiddy> wd
[12:05] <adiddy> nope
[12:05] <nozorro> kaolti: with webbrowser if possible
[12:06] <CorpseFeeder> erUsul: I tried sudo make install and I got "make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop."
[12:06] <blurd> CAN ANYONE HELP ME WOW
[12:06] <xopher> zoidberg, what do you mean by that? Its not freeware :/ And it runs steam, but steam runs fine on wine too..
[12:06] <blurd> I cant update or install anything
[12:06] <james296> oh, does the linux partitoner split the percentage of Ubuntu or Windows? like what if I put it at 52% is that for linux or windows?
[12:06] <DShepherd> can you do mutilple session burning with nautilus burner?
[12:06] <broken> anyone know how to start up xserver-xephyr on ubuntu?
[12:06] <adiddy> why ibm xserve looks much better for a web server
[12:06] <nozorro> kaolti: so you go step by step and see how far the packages get carried through
[12:06] <xbehave2> xopher not always
[12:06] <shut-> blurd what id u do
[12:06] <blurd> FIREFOX_DSP="aoss"
[12:06] <blurd> woops
[12:06] <blurd> The package jre needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[12:06] <adiddy> why dual install?
[12:06] <xbehave2> i cant get steam to run on my wine
[12:06] <blurd> thats what it says
[12:06] <kaolti> nozorro: yea thats good strategy
[12:07] <xopher> xbehave2, what version are you running?
[12:07] <adiddy> if u like linux so much? if your gonna install dicth windows forever!
[12:07] <xbehave2> of wine or steam?
[12:07] <adiddy> wine only can run web browser in kde
[12:07] <xopher> wine
[12:07] <adiddy> not much good for anything else
[12:07] <quintin_> Can someone here tell me how to play videos on yahoo news with Ubuntu
[12:07] <xbehave2> 0.9.9
[12:07] <nozorro> kaolti: also, check built-in firewall of dsl router (if any) after you get things working -- making sure the 2 firewalls don't hamper each other
[12:07] <brian__> shut - i assume you have cycled the power on the printer and unplugged/plugged it back in?
[12:07] <mad_man> ladydoor: mcphail thank you, i just started working with linux, i'm learning this system better. printing was the last thing from keeping me from linux. i have printing working now
[12:08] <adiddy> the project is taking to long to get any good
[12:08] <ladydoor> mad_man: sweet! glad to hear it!
[12:08] <xopher> xbehave2, theres like a 0.9.20 atleast already, you should try that out..
[12:08] <mcphail> mad_man: you'll enjoy it
[12:08] <adiddy> my issue is firefox/gnome
[12:08] <kaolti> nozorro: ok
[12:08] <mad_man> <== full time linux user
[12:08] <xopher> but gotta go to sleep, good night all
[12:08] <adiddy> macromedia and java isssue s it won't be my installed os
[12:08] <nozorro> kaolti: can you finally rech the web from the win box?
[12:08] <blackline> I have reached a dead end, not getting my sound to work at all. If you have time, please read my post and answer either here or in the forum: http://www.nuxified.org/sound_driver_trouble_gstreamer_alsa
[12:08] <nozorro> kaolti: *reach the web
[12:08] <adiddy> my sound auto configed
[12:08] <mad_man> !sound
[12:08] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:09] <M3G4crux> hi to all
[12:09] <blackline> adiddy - my sound have worked befoe
[12:09] <broken> anyone know how to start up xserver-xephyr on ubuntu =
[12:09] <broken> 0
[12:09] <xbehave2> thx ill upgrade tomorow
[12:09] <adiddy> sound blaster 24 bit
[12:09] <rofl0r> quintin, use easyubuntu http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[12:09] <kaolti> nozorro: nah i gota wait till tommorow cause its a friends pc
[12:09] <M3G4crux> I am having problem I didnt have before with my bt-headset
[12:09] <CromagDK> !netinstall
[12:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:09] <adiddy> i'm going with open ssue
[12:09] <dash|Kye> I am trying to mount a second hard drive that I have [formatted in ext3 atm] , but can't get it to work
[12:09] <adiddy> looking super easy to install
[12:09] <xbehave2> in gnome is there a comand that will some how, i really dont care how, take focus away from another when alt-tab isnt working
[12:09] <docgnome> does anyone know anything about configuring dansguardian and tinyproxy? I'm having trouble with it. I have to share my internet connection with my lan and, it appears that the firewall i'm using to do that (ipkungfu) is bypassing dansguardian...
[12:09] <dash|Kye> d@sh-main:/dev$ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdc /media/Media/
[12:09] <dash|Kye> mount: No medium found
[12:09] <kaolti> nozoroo: if i want to share files and copy stuff from 1 box to the other i have to set up something like samba right?
[12:10] <hondje> dash|Kye: You can't mount the whole drive, you need a partition, so /dev/hdc1 for example
[12:10] <hondje> afaik, ymmv, etc etc
[12:10] <dash|Kye> it doesn't show as a partition in /dev
[12:10] <M3G4crux> anyone can tell me how can I make the bluetooth system to ask me again for the password of the bt-headset. At the moment all attempts to connect them again lead to messages such as: Host is down, Permission denied, Sdp server not implemented, etc.
[12:10] <nozorro> kaolti: basically, yes. there are other possibilities, but samba is the most common
[12:10] <xbehave2> *key combo not command
[12:11] <dash|Kye> how can I get it to show if it has partitions or not?
[12:11] <kaolti> nozoroo: can i get it with atp-get?
[12:11] <xopher> dash|Kye, fdisk -l /dev/hdx
[12:12] <brian98> !umount
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about umount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <nozorro> kaolti: well yes, but why don't you use the graphical tools provided?
[12:12] <dash|Kye> -l is list or something?
[12:12] <dash|Kye> I would prefer to not wipe this drive just yet
[12:12] <nozorro> kaolti: they're easier to deal with
[12:12] <DShepherd> can you do mutilple session burning with nautilus burner?
[12:12] <lupine_85>  CorpseFeeder: ok, the module is built fine, so install it (sudo make install or just copy all the .ko files to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/extra)
[12:13] <xopher> dash|Kye, yes, -l is list
[12:13] <lupine_85> then just continue with the HOWTO
[12:13] <barata> hallo, how to add fonts?
[12:13] <Coraxyn> Can Ubuntu support 3 graphics card/minitors?
[12:13] <jman8888> Hey can anybody help me with my Grub file..
[12:13] <grout> is there a channel for ubuntu center?
[12:13] <jman8888> (If grub is what lets me tri boot)
[12:13] <barata> is there a gui for adding fonts in ubuntu or I still have to use the terminal?
[12:13] <blurd> installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.installation.
[12:13] <blurd> LMAO
[12:13] <blurd> NO OPS
[12:13] <nozorro> !ops
[12:14] <ubotu> Help! lilo, Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[12:14] <blurd> :D
[12:14] <blurd> spam time@@@@@@@
[12:14] <blurd> jk
[12:14] <dash|Kye> fdisk -l doesn't do anything
[12:14] <kaolti> nozoroo: add/remove applications?
[12:14] <CromagDK> !liveCD install
[12:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about liveCD install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:14] <xopher> dash|Kye, sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdx
[12:15] <dash|Kye> still nothing
[12:15] <dash|Kye> no errors, just goes to the next line
[12:15] <kaolti> nozoroo: cant find it
[12:15] <levander> Okay, my dist-upgrade to dapper didn't go well.  I got an error saying package python2.4-twisted had unmet dependencies.  Now when I run dist-upgrade I get the error message: 'sendmail: fatal: gethostbyname: resource temporarily unavailable'.  So, I try to restart bind9, with 'sudo /etc/init.d/bind9 restart' and I get that same gethostbyname error message.  Any suggestions??
[12:15] <nozorro> kaolti: yes. a middle way between this and apt-get is synaptic (in System > Administration), it allows finer-grained control over installation
[12:15] <xopher> well just run 'sudo fdisk -l' it should show all the hard drives connected
[12:15] <TylerDurdener> hey, i installed xubuntu and id like to uninstall it, i tried apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop but it said its in use (although im in gnome right now), how can i remove it?
[12:15] <jman8888> Can anyboty help me with grub..
[12:15] <levander> dist-upgrade stops running after that gethostbyname error
[12:15] <shut-> it found my printer
[12:16] <nozorro> kaolti: also see System >Administration > Software Properties
[12:16] <shut-> but then when u hit forward
[12:16] <sethk> jman8888, depends on what the problem is
[12:16] <xbehave2> tyler have you tried via packet management
[12:16] <shut-> it says pick a modle
[12:16] <dmembrane> i cannot get to the desktop on my directory....can someone help me understand why?
[12:16] <jman8888> sethk, I cant boot into ubuntu normal (Only in recovery)
[12:17] <sethk> dmembrane, what do you mean by "cannot get to"?
[12:17] <kaolti> nozoroo: "Enter the complete APT line of the channel that you want to add" am i at the right place?
[12:17] <sethk> jman8888, what happens if you try a normal boot?
[12:17] <jman8888> Error 15  : Cannot find file.
[12:18] <dmembrane> i extracted my 'install_flash_player_7_linux' folder into my desktop...but cannot access it in the terminal
[12:18] <sethk> jman8888, ok, either your grub config file, /boot/grub/menu.lst is wrong, or grub is installed incorrectly.  Very probably the former.  Paste your menu.lst file to the paste 'bot
[12:18] <TylerDurdener> !uninstall
[12:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uninstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <jman8888> sethk, Paste bot?
[12:18] <shut-> !flash
[12:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:18] <sethk> !paste
[12:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:18] <jman8888> !paste bot
[12:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste bot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <stinkball> I need some help configuring samba to access fileshares in windows
[12:18] <jman8888> !paste
[12:19] <nozorro> kaolti: use this if you want to add custom sw repositories. these are quite inofficial though. use with a bit of care. the complete address for the channel should be on corresp. web page. if not sure, read some docu first
[12:19] <mwe> dmembrane: you don't need that. just enable multiverse and install the ubuntu package
[12:19] <shut-> !flash > dmembrane
[12:19] <shut-> lol
[12:19] <shut-> see if it works
[12:19] <simtower> allo does anyone know what command to use to start xephyr xserver? =)
[12:19] <shut-> :P
[12:19] <mad_man> if i change this line:root ALL=(ALL) ALL to ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL in the sudoers file will stop ubuntu from asking for the root passwd all the time ?
[12:20] <tgelter> hey all, just looking for a program that does multithread downloads (like download accelerator plus for windows)...anyone know of any good ones that support multiple files and has a gui for gnome?
[12:20] <covOPprometheus> I'm expieriencing a problem closing the lid of my laptop, although i configured the OS (ubuntu dapper) not to do anything, the screen appears pitchblack on reopening and the system is stuck. does anyone have any idea? please PM me
[12:20] <sethk> mad_man, yes, making your system security even more of a joke than the normal sudo configuration
[12:20] <mwe> dmembrane: install flashplugin-nonfree after enabling the multiverse repo
[12:20] <sethk> covOPprometheus, the software cannot stop the laptop hardware from acting on the closed lid
[12:20] <mwe> mad_man: no
[12:20] <simtower> yes your laptop is probably shutting down your video hardware
[12:21] <dmembrane> enable the multiverse repo?
[12:21] <laz0r> hi, i have this problem -> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/+bug/45550
[12:21] <mwe> mad_man: and please don't do what you're trying
[12:21] <laz0r> is there any solution?
[12:21] <dmembrane> next noise from me...."duh"
[12:21] <mwe> mad_man: use sudo -i to get a root prompt if you need to do a lot as root
[12:21] <CorpseFeeder> ok, i am editing rt61sta.dat - how do I know what my countryregion= or countryregionAband= is?
[12:22] <CorpseFeeder> i can't find anything that mentions countryregion or countryregionaband in my router settings
[12:22] <covOPprometheus> sethk, hmm, yep, but I'm not sure what it does, it must stop some progress on the go, as it doesn't turn back on, and the problem is software based, as it works on other OS's
[12:22] <Powerbook`> Does anyone know *about* how long it takes for shipit to deliever to the us, it already shipped
[12:22] <xbehave2> ive installed dosbox via the package management system, but i cant find the readme
[12:23] <tgelter> Powerbook` it took them about 5 weeks to get me CDs that shipped from France
[12:23] <sethk> covOPprometheus, incorrect deduction.  the other OSes, the ones that work, are programmed to interact properly with the switch.  linux is not programmed to interact with the switch at all.
[12:24] <covOPprometheus> sethk, so you say, there is no solution to the problem?
[12:24] <stinkball> Can i access my shared folders on my windows system using ubuntu (with samba).  I have samba installed and configured according to ubuntuguide.org, but nothing seems to be working
[12:24] <kaolti> nozoroo: in firestarter at the events i see a lot of blocked connections on port 53664, samba, http.70% port 53664. what are these ppl scanning for?
[12:24] <sethk> covOPprometheus, no simple one.  I would imagine that a kernel patch to fix it is fairly easy.  Did you google for one, see if someone has already solved the problem?
[12:24] <Blissex> stinkball: Samba does the _opposite_. Look at the CIFS filesystem.
[12:25] <stinkball> samba shares folders with windows?
[12:25] <Powerbook`> Does anyone know *about* how long it takes for shipit to deliever to the us, it already shipped?
[12:25] <mad_man> <--thinking, thinking, smoke rises slowly and forums a dark cloud in the sky
[12:25] <ikonia> do any of you have a working twinview/xinerama config I could look at within ubuntu
[12:26] <nozorro> kaolti: scanning for buggy windows systems. don't worry too much about this. worry about your connections and the ports the're using :-)
[12:26] <covOPprometheus> sethk, I did, but I haven't found anything so far, but kernel upgrade might help me searching
[12:26] <xbehave2> yes
[12:26] <reitzell> I have a working twinview setup
[12:26] <sethk> covOPprometheus, I don't see how.
[12:26] <ikonia> could you pastebin it please
[12:26] <nozorro> kaolti: ... and don't open an outside port on the firewall unless you must
[12:27] <reitzell> what does pastebin mean?
[12:27] <covOPprometheus> sethk, it's hard to find something if you don't know what to look for ;)
[12:27] <kaolti> nozoroo: im not worrying im just curios. couldnt find anythin on the net about that port
[12:27] <ikonia> put the configuration into the pastebin
[12:27] <ikonia> pastebin?
[12:27] <ikonia> !pastebin
[12:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:27] <_azrael> !paste > ikonia
[12:27] <docgnome> I really could use some help trying to configure dansguardian with tinyproxy and ipkungfu. dansguardian is running on port 8080 but it seems to be being bypased by ipkungfu, even through ipkungfu says it is redirecting traffic from 80 to 8080
[12:27] <aum> hi - i'm running from ubuntu livecd, noticing a lot of packages missing when i do apt-cache search, packages which are listed on the ubuntu website (such as python-sqlobject) - do i need to update sources.list to enable full range of packages?
[12:27] <simtower> allo does anyone know what command to use to start xephyr xserver? =)
[12:27] <ikonia> _azrael I know what one is thanks, I was looking for the bot command
[12:29] <nozorro> kaolti: there are so many ports, it's almost useless. read here if you like: http://www.seifried.org/security/ports/
[12:30] <ikonia> can you pastebin your configutration for me please
[12:30] <Lysit> Default gateway, ip and dns are all correct, ubuntu box can still connect to any computer on LAN, but cannot connect to internet. Pinging an IP and address from the internet says filtered by <IP_ADDRESS>, however all my lan addresses are in the 192.168 range
[12:30] <ikonia> mines borking
[12:30] <krazykit> hooray!  kernel-2.6.18-rc6-ck1!
[12:30] <numael> i talk spanish
[12:31] <nozorro> !es
[12:31] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:31] <reitzell> ikonia , I'm trying to send you my xorg.conf file
[12:31] <ikonia> thanks
[12:31] <reitzell> doesn't look like you're taking it
[12:31] <ikonia> I'm not reciving a dcc request
[12:32] <nozorro> kaolti: any other quick questions before i go surfin'?
[12:32] <reitzell> sending it again
[12:33] <kaolti> nozoroo: :) nah thats enough for now.thanks
[12:33] <eugman> Is there a specific chanel to talk about the wiki or would this be the place to do it in?
[12:33] <Lysit> Anyone any idea whats up with my ubuntu box?
[12:33] <CorpseFeeder> someone remind me.. how do I use the chmod command to change a file's read only attribute to write?
[12:33] <nozorro> kaolti: ok, bye
[12:33] <kaolti> nozoroo: bye
[12:33] <sethk> Lysit, things are going to your default destination, then arriving at the 172 box
[12:33] <Xcalibur> i am running kubuntu, and noone in the other chanel is helping me, I need to find another wireless connection manager, b/c the default one, it keeps disconecting me...
[12:33] <nozorro> have a nice evening everyone
[12:33] <Xcalibur> ?
[12:33] <reitzell> do you see the dcc request?
[12:33] <ikonia> I'm not reciving dcc requests
[12:34] <brian98> Hello
[12:34] <reitzell> hmmm...
[12:34] <Lysit> sthk I have no 172 box, it doesn't exist
[12:34] <reitzell> How about I e-mail it to you
[12:34] <eugman> CorpseFeeder, as a general tip, typing man before a programs name will bring up the manual page explainging how to use that program.
[12:34] <eugman> so for example you'd type    man chmod
[12:34] <sethk> Lysit, that's nonsense.  I said your default destination is talking to a 172 box.  You don't have to have one.  google.com is <IP_ADDRESS>.  does that mean you can't talk to it because you don't have a 64. box?
[12:35] <aum> hi - how come synaptic only shows 4425 packages when i run from the livecd - do i need to add another apt source?
[12:35] <Lysit> Then why is it stopping at 172 then?
[12:35] <brian98> anyone help with this? xchat and skype and other programs when minimized used to appear on my panel.. Now they appear as tiny desktop windows and I can't for the life of me see whats changed.. I've restared x and it's still the same. I haven't changed anything. Is there something that should be on the panel that I am missing. It's quite annoying :)
[12:35] <brian98> panel at the top that is
[12:35] <sethk> Lysit, because that's how the 172 box is configured.
[12:36] <Lysit> all my other 3 computers are fine
[12:36] <sethk> Lysit, indeed.  so?
[12:36] <eugman> It's still not very good but if anyone would care to look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CliDesktop I'd appreciate any help.
[12:36] <sethk> Lysit, you are looking in all the wrong places.
[12:36] <shut-> whats a good irc
[12:36] <shut-> program
[12:36] <Lysit> Where should I be looking?
[12:36] <sethk> Lysit, do a traceroute from one of the working machine, then from the box that isn't working, and see what the difference is.
[12:36] <brian98> xshut: xchat
[12:36] <sethk> Lysit, display the routes on a working box and the ubuntu box.
[12:36] <fatbrain> Can I change the text rendered on my monitor to be anti-aliased?
[12:36] <shut-> huh
[12:36] <brian98> shut: even xchat
[12:37] <shut-> yes but i cant find a download that works
[12:37] <shut-> i get an error
[12:37] <brian98> sudo apt-get install xchat from a terminal window
[12:37] <Xcalibur> is there another wireless connection manager out there for linux, besides wlassistant?
[12:37] <factotum> gah, im bored. Girlfriend just started her new job today so I dont have anyone around to laugh at me when i try to config something
[12:37] <shut-> k
[12:37] <sethk> factotum, we'll laugh at you
[12:37] <factotum> so i come to you, the people of the channel
[12:37] <factotum> haha exactly
[12:38] <M_A_K> I am a linux beginner and need assistance with my usb flash drive.  I used to connect the drive and it would show up in my KDE taskbar (excuse the windoism) in the "Storage Devices" pannel/applet.  For some reason it is not showing up there anymore.  I really do not want to use the terminal to mount it manually every time I need it.
[12:38] <aum> is there anyone here who's made the switch from debian to ubuntu? if so, what differences have you seen?
[12:38] <simtower> doesnt work as good
[12:38] <factotum> well it might be a big barrel of laughs, im thinking of compiling myself a kernel from source to see if I can do it
[12:38] <Lysit> tracert on win box (this one) hits 17 hops, none start with 172, ubuntu box gives 0 hops, just hangs until ctrl-alt-c
[12:38] <M_A_K> All that shows up are my internal HD and my CDRW
[12:39] <aefkei> Hey'a. First try at Ubuntu, after Gentoo Man this is cheeeeeesecake ! Luvit. I have a problem with gnome comfiguring shortcuts though : I'd like to affect Alt+h to "Move to the desktop on the left", but when I type it into the configuration menu, it pops up the help. Has anyone had this kind of problem ? Should I rather go but the guys at #gnome-soopid-questions ?
[12:39] <simtower> hehe you came from gentoo
[12:39] <aefkei> s/but/bug/
[12:39] <Xcalibur> well, can somone plz listen to me for just 1 single second, I don't mean to be rude, but I have been ignored?
[12:39] <sethk> Lysit, of course none start with 172.  you said you have no 172 box.  how could a route start with 172?
[12:39] <eugman> !patience
[12:39] <aefkei> and... where did you come from, simtower ?
[12:39] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:39] <sethk> Lysit, I said to look at the _default_ route
[12:39] <aSt3raL_> how can i make a file executable by the webserver?
[12:40] <simtower> aefkei, gentoo ;)
[12:40] <sethk> Lysit, why don't you run route -n, capture the output, and put it on the paste site.
[12:40] <aSt3raL_> that is user: www-data
[12:40] <rub> how to know which ISP is providing this address <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:40] <sethk> rub, use the whois command
[12:40] <Lysit> Sethk, you've started speaking spanish/german/whatever, how does this help me? I don't know much about linux
[12:40] <Xcalibur> well, im sorry to be mean, but can somone link me to a wireless connection manager instead of wlassistan?
[12:40] <factotum> just do a whois
[12:41] <factotum> doh, beat me to it
[12:41] <aefkei> woohoo simtower ! I'm not the only one bored by fsck'ing my system each time gcc upgrades !
[12:41] <eugman> Xcalibur, I think so. let me do a quick check.
[12:41] <sethk> Lysit, it helps you because we can look at your routes and tell you what is wrong with them
[12:41] <simtower> aefkei, lol. i gave up after the last gcc upgrade. it was a personal disaster ;)
[12:41] <sethk> Lysit, but you can do whatever you like, of course.
[12:41] <laz0r> ok, another more ubuntu specific question: whats the ubuntu equivalent to debian testing/sid? is there any? is it safe to use (at least as save as in debian) or will it open the door to dependency-hell?
[12:41] <Lysit> so syntax is what? tracerout -n google.com/ip or whatever
[12:42] <brian98> Please help - boo hoo
[12:42] <brian98> :)
[12:42] <aefkei> rofl ! Exactly what tool me here.
[12:42] <sethk> Lysit, to display your routes?   you run     route -n
[12:42] <eugman> Xcalibur, Network-Manager may be what you are looking for but I'm limited in my wireless expierience. Remeber you can always search the package lists or the forums when trying to find the right program.
[12:42] <factotum> laz0r: your using newer than debian testing right now
[12:42] <sethk> Lysit, traceroute is traceroute, not tracerout
[12:42] <simtower> ubuntu is not without its problems but at least its easy to install
[12:42] <aefkei> Xcalibur, do you need a graphical tool ?
[12:42] <sethk> Lysit, but it has nothing to do with the route command, they are different programs
[12:43] <brian98> and traceroute is installed by default iirc
[12:43] <brian98> and traceroute is not installed by default iirc
[12:43] <brian98> I mean
[12:43] <Xcalibur> sure
[12:43] <laz0r> factotum: huh? right now im sitting on a gentoo box
[12:43] <rub> whois command not found sethk
[12:43] <M_A_K> Can anybody assist me with mounting a usb flash drive (ubuntu 6 / KDE)?
[12:43] <sethk> rub, then install it.
[12:43] <factotum> laz0r: ah, thought you meant in regards to ubu
[12:43] <aefkei> Yep simtower, it was hard to give out the nice init system, for instance.
[12:43] <linuchsan> rub:mcleodusa.net
[12:43] <mwe> laz0r: current test version is 6.10. by now it's pretty safe I think. short after a new release the new test version might not even work yet
[12:43] <rub> where download  it
[12:44] <moustafa> Hello
[12:44] <moustafa> I need help please
[12:44] <factotum> laz0r: even in the case of you gentoo box, your probably running newer than deb testing
[12:44] <moustafa> i want to know information about ubuntu
[12:44] <D00B3Y> when I start cgwd I get errors like these: ** (cgwd:2230): WARNING **: Cannot open pixmap: shade
[12:44] <brian98> bhrobinson: You got any ideas on this one?
[12:45] <moustafa> Did i can show all my network pc's without password?
[12:45] <aefkei> Xcalibur, knetworkmanager ? for gnome, I guess I'm not competent. Try google+wifi+gtk ?
[12:45] <rub> sethk could you help me? to obtain whois <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:45] <moustafa> Did i can enter any network pc without user name & password?
[12:46] <moustafa> How can i spy my network place?
[12:46] <sethk> rub, sure, I'll have to install it, which takes about 20 seconds, so hold on
[12:46] <sethk> rub, I'll put it on the paste site for you.
[12:46] <yacine> Hi all!
[12:46] <D00B3Y> when I start cgwd I get errors like these: ** (cgwd:2230): WARNING **: Cannot open pixmap: shade
[12:46] <D00B3Y> ^^ please
[12:47] <laz0r> factotum: yes, yes, but i have a ubuntu box, dapper 6.06, ive got a problem with ndiswrapper (i need to build the modules package via dpkg-buildpackage) to use with a vanilla kernel, and when i try to install that package i built, it complains about a dependencies, blah blah >=1.8-1 needed 1.8-0ubuntu installed, so, would this my debian boy, i just would have looked if i could install a newer version of the needed package
[12:47] <ikonia> I can't get my nvidia card to display my monitor at my maximum resolution
[12:47] <Max_-> ubuntu comes with gnome and kubuntu comes with kde, right?
[12:47] <ikonia> the wiki's got some good tips, but nothing thats working
[12:47] <djohnny71> got the same problem as ikonia;
[12:47] <moustafa> i need help please
[12:47] <mad_man> i found this command give me a lot of info about the hdd/s: df -T -h
[12:47] <moustafa> i want to spy my network place
[12:47] <laz0r> factotum: and thats why i want to use testing in ubuntu
[12:47] <ikonia> djohnny71 what card/monitor ?
[12:47] <moustafa> How?
[12:47] <D00B3Y> ikonia: sudo gedit /etx/X11/xorg.conf
[12:47] <djohnny71> i tried to install the drivers from nvidia, they installed but i cant get the res higher :-(
[12:47] <sethk> rub, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22779
[12:47] <moustafa> by using ubuntu
[12:47] <ikonia> D00B3Y done it
[12:47] <sethk> rub, you could have done it yourself a lot faster
[12:47] <ikonia> the config looks fine
[12:47] <mikearthur> I've probably cocked up, but if fetchmail downloads emails and fails to relay them, where have they gone?
[12:47] <djohnny71> geforce2 Mx400@ikonia
[12:47] <D00B3Y> ikonia: edit the section "modes"
[12:47] <yacine> I am using ubuntu 6.06 and I pressed shift key several times and my keyboard is now locked. How can I unlock it?
[12:48] <ikonia> D00B3Y done it !
[12:48] <djohnny71> ikonia pvt plz
[12:48] <yacine> Any help is appreciated
[12:48] <ikonia> got the correct modes
[12:48] <ikonia> djohnny71 sure
[12:48] <D00B3Y> ikonia: put "1280x1024" in front of ALL of them
[12:48] <ikonia> D00B3Y done it
[12:48] <brian98> xchat and skype and other programs when minimized used to appear on my top panel in the right.. Now they appear as tiny desktop windows and I can't for the life of me see whats changed.. I've restared x and it's still the same. I haven't changed anything. Is there something that should be on the panel that I am missing. It's quite annoying :)
[12:48] <D00B3Y> ikonia: make sure default is set to 24
[12:48] <ikonia> done it
[12:48] <D00B3Y> ikonia: then restart X : ctrl alt X
[12:48] <factotum> dependencies for the module package you created?
[12:48] <D00B3Y> i mean
[12:48] <D00B3Y> ctrl alt backspace
[12:48] <ikonia> done it
[12:48] <laz0r> mwe: what should i put in sources.list? deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ testing main restricted?
[12:48] <ikonia> comes up at a lower resolution
[12:48] <shut-> hello
[12:49] <D00B3Y> whats your resoultuon? 1600x1200?
[12:49] <gubluntu> anyone have a guide for xgl/compiz + xinerama?
[12:49] <moustafa> Who can laern me about hacking by using ubuntu?
[12:49] <linuchsan> sethk:or couldn't read
[12:49] <djohnny71> aaaarghs forget it , im not registered ^^ so no pms... @ikonia
[12:49] <D00B3Y> can anyone help me with cgwd?
[12:49] <ikonia> I want it at 1280x1024
[12:49] <sethk> linuchsan, what?
[12:49] <D00B3Y> when I start cgwd I get errors like these: ** (cgwd:2230): WARNING **: Cannot open pixmap: shade
[12:49] <shut-> amsn on ubuntu
[12:49] <ikonia> but its coming in at 1024x786
[12:49] <dash_> perhaps it is smarter than me, but Ubuntu 6.06 has Opera built-in?
[12:49] <djohnny71> so what did u install?
[12:49] <mwe> laz0r: no. it's etch I think. go ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:49] <yacine> Please... Any help to unlock keyboard?
[12:49] <laz0r> ok, just doing s/dapper/testing didnt work
[12:49] <linuchsan> sethk:the lookup was posted
[12:50] <D00B3Y> ikonia: try system>preferences> resolution
[12:50] <djohnny71> Yeah thats the highest even iget...
[12:50] <sethk> linuchsan, well, only the first line of it, but ok
[12:50] <Max_-> ubuntu comes with gnome and kubuntu comes with kde, right??
[12:50] <D00B3Y> and make sure that your refresh rates are set right
[12:50] <laz0r> mwe: ok
[12:50] <ikonia> djohnny71 nvidia-glx nvidia0-glx-dev and the correct restricted modules
[12:50] <gubluntu> max_, yup
[12:50] <ikonia> D00B3Y it looks fine
[12:50] <sethk> linuchsan, and that line isn't the actual owner.
[12:50] <Max_-> thx
[12:50] <linuchsan> sethk:he asked for the isp
[12:50] <DJGummikuh> asdas
[12:50] <DJGummikuh> aah NOW it works again
[12:50] <D00B3Y> are you sure your nvidia drivers  are loading?
[12:50] <D00B3Y> try modprobe nvidia
[12:50] <ompaul> ikonia, have you seen the "fixresolution" web page?
[12:50] <djohnny71> mmmh okay, should try this 2morrow...
[12:51] <moustafa> i want to know important information please , did the ubuntu effect with windows viruss?
[12:51] <ikonia> lsmod shows it as loaded
[12:51] <sethk> linuchsan, so?  I paste the whois output to the paste site.  is that a problem ?
[12:51] <djohnny71> url?@ompaul?
[12:51] <ikonia> ompaul looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:51] <ompaul> ikonia, that is the one
[12:51] <ikonia> wiki's got some good tips, but nothing seems to be working
[12:51] <djohnny71> sorry im a total n00b in Linux :-/
[12:51] <House> how do I mount a fat32 drive on the live cd?
[12:51] <dash_> perhaps it is smarter than me, but Ubuntu 6.06 has Opera built-in?
[12:51] <sethk> House, mount -t vfat
[12:51] <moustafa> Did i must install unti virus for my ubunyu?
[12:51] <ikonia> dash_ could you please stop repeating that
[12:51] <D00B3Y> when I start cgwd I get errors like these: ** (cgwd:2230): WARNING **: Cannot open pixmap: shade !!!
[12:52] <factotum> dash_: nope
[12:52] <D00B3Y> im on xgl
[12:52] <sethk> dash_, has nothing "built in".  I believe opera is in a repository somewhere but isn't part of the default repository list
[12:52] <djohnny71> aaarghs didnt use IRC for a very long time...
[12:52] <moustafa> i am talking with my self!!!!!!1
[12:52] <dash_> I just didn't see it in the repositories
[12:52] <djohnny71> gonna keep on 2morrow :-/ Gotta get some sl33p, c y@ll
[12:52] <moustafa> i want to know important information please , did the ubuntu effect with windows viruss?
[12:52] <gubluntu> D00B3Y, come to #ubuntu-xgl
[12:52] <moustafa> Did i must install unti virus for my ubunyu?
[12:52] <moustafa> i want to know important information please , did the ubuntu effect with windows viruss?
[12:52] <moustafa> Did i must install unti virus for my ubunyu?
[12:52] <sethk> dash_, it isn't there.  google for it, you can find the repository to add
[12:52] <ikonia> moustafa STOP FLOODING THE CHANNEL
[12:53] <djohnny71> good night
[12:53] <moustafa> ok
[12:53] <Telroth|School> no moustafa
[12:53] <moustafa> i need answer
[12:53] <moustafa> thank you
[12:53] <ompaul> !enter
[12:53] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[12:53] <factotum> moustafa: probably not, if its an .exe it would probably be sitting there thinking "where the hell am i?"
[12:53] <swinchen> So I have a .deb file that I want to install, but it has dependencies...  what do I need to do so it will automatically install the dependencies?
[12:54] <ompaul> swinchen, where did you get this deb and what is it?
[12:54] <yacine> Any help to unlock keyboard? pleeese!
[12:54] <stinkball> I can access my windows shares in ubuntu, but i don't know how to mount them, can someone help me?
[12:54] <brian98> yacine: What's happened
[12:54] <swinchen> ompaul, it is firstclass, I got it from centrinity.com
[12:54] <ompaul> swinchen, it is not a great idea to install random debs on a machine
[12:54] <sethk> stinkball, mount -t smbfs .....
[12:54] <swinchen> ompaul, it isn't random.  It is one package that I need.
[12:55] <yacine> Hi Brian! I presed shift several times and my keyboard got locked. I want to unlockk it
[12:55] <yacine> Any idea?
[12:55] <moustafa> i need a friend
[12:55] <moustafa> stay with me
[12:55] <stinkball> sethk: i've gotten that far, but what do i put after that?
[12:55] <moustafa> to teach me more about ubuntu
[12:55] <moustafa> Who can be my Teacher?
[12:56] <swinchen> Depends: libqt3-mt   <---  I know I could install this manually... is there a way to have it installed automatically for me though?
[12:56] <moustafa> Did i can enter any network pc without user name & password?
[12:56] <sethk> stinkball, I can't tell you that because the name is constructed using the windows machine name (or ip) and share name
[12:56] <juanfe> hello all
[12:57] <moustafa> Hello
[12:57] <someusernoob> hi
[12:57] <juanfe> in dapper the cd-rw don't work
[12:57] <FrogstarScout> hey guys
[12:57] <yacine> Brian98: I can't use my keybord under Ubuntu, it's locked. No output!
[12:58] <moustafa> oooops
[12:58] <Lysit> root@NixServer:~# route -n
[12:58] <Lysit> Kernel IP routing table
[12:58] <Lysit> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[12:58] <Lysit> <IP_ADDRESS>     <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>   U     0      0        0 eth0
[12:58] <Lysit> <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>     <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[12:58] <ompaul> swinchen, well I hope it was built for your version >>   dpkg -i pacakge.deb <<
[12:58] <brian98> even after restart?
[12:58] <sethk> Lysit, don't paste in the channel.  for more than two lines use the paste web site
[12:58] <brian98> does the mouse work
[12:58] <juanfe> i can't erase a rewritable cd
[12:58] <yacine> Brian98 Yes
[12:58] <FrogstarScout> i was having trouble with an old sound card that turned out to be a bit damaged i think so i bought a new one
[12:58] <stinkball> sethk: i didn't mean name, i know the name of my windows share and machine, i meant command wise
[12:58] <sethk> Lysit, ok, you have a default route to <IP_ADDRESS>, which is presumably your gateway
[12:58] <FrogstarScout> it's a Sound Blaster Live!
[12:58] <yacine> Brian98 It saved the setting I guess
[12:58] <Lysit> correct
[12:59] <brian98> if you hit alt F1 do you get a terminal
[12:59] <FrogstarScout> but it's not recognized
[12:59] <brian98> alt f7 to get back to gui
[12:59] <sethk> stinkball, mount -t smbfs windows_machine:windows_share_name  /some/local/mount/point
[12:59] <FrogstarScout> lspci tells me: VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 08)
[12:59] <sethk> stinkball, some_local_mount_point can be any empty directory
[12:59] <brian98> ctrl-alt f1
[12:59] <brian98> I mean
[12:59] <sethk> stinkball, use sudo with mount, if you are not root
[12:59] <M_A_K> I just tried to connect my usb flash drive using gnome and an error popped up about not being able to initialize HAL.  Can I reinstall  the HAL?
[12:59] <yacine> Brian98 I could get terminal by using the mouse.
[12:59] <FrogstarScout> any modules i should load to make this thing work?
[12:59] <brian98> can you try that
[12:59] <brian98> ctrl-alt f1
[12:59] <ChaosFan> wg 31
[12:59] <stinkball> sethk: okay, let me try that
[01:00] <aum> about to install ubuntu - on a clear 300GB disk, i can see forever
[01:00] <yacine> Brian98 Well I have to reboot my computer... Let me try it.
[01:00] <yacine> Brain98: Thaks for your help
[01:00] <brian98> I just wanna know if it's an input thing in x
[01:00] <mcphail> aum: my ubuntu install is now spilling over onto my 2nd 250G SATA
[01:00] <sethk> Lysit, now, can you ping your dns server?  look for the IP address of your dns server in /etc/resolv.conf
[01:01] <yacine> Bye all!
[01:01] <Lysit> DNS server is also <IP_ADDRESS> (or so both windows box's think), and yes it pings that fine
[01:01] <TylerDurdener> how can i install contents from a tar file as root?
[01:01] <brian98> xchat and skype and other programs when minimized used to appear on my top panel in the right.. Now they appear as tiny desktop windows and I can't for the life of me see whats changed.. I've restared x and it's still the same. I haven't changed anything. Is there something that should be on the panel that I am missing. It's quite annoying :)
[01:02] <snacks> hello guys, i have i question about setting up my wireless...can someone help me with my problems?
[01:02] <sethk> Lysit, the only ip address in /etc/resolv.conf is <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[01:02] <Max_-> Gnome or KDE???  That is the question!
[01:02] <Lysit> 1 sec
[01:02] <lupine_85> Max: KDE, obviously :)
[01:02] <aum> where's the best place to stick the swap on a 300GB disk, for minimum speed penalty?
[01:02] <lupine_85> where's the question?
[01:02] <shut-> where can i find all packages
[01:02] <shut-> ?
[01:03] <stinkball> sethk: thanks, that worked :-)
[01:03] <lupine_85> aum: the outside of the platters are faster than the inside...
[01:03] <rixxon> can i set a default width/height for the gnome-terminal ?
[01:03] <lupine_85> ...translating that to the cylinders given is pretty much impossible
[01:03] <aum> lupine_85: how do i know where the outside of the platters are?
[01:03] <lupine_85> aum: you can't
[01:03] <Max_-> 2 for KDE, 0 for Gnome
[01:03] <lupine_85> especially with LBA, etcetera in the way
[01:04] <snacks> has anybody gotten a Netgear WG121 wireless adapter to work?
[01:04] <aum> lupine_85: is there a speed difference if i stick the swap early in the 300GB, in the middle or at the end?
[01:04] <Lysit> ---   /etc/resolv.conf has 1 line stating      nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:04] <lupine_85> aum: depends completely on the hard drive model. Probably not worth bothering with though
[01:04] <mcphail> aum: i'd imagine you won't be using swap much anyway
[01:04] <TylerDurdener> anyone? how can i install contents from tar packages into a restricted folder? theres no where i can say "sudo" or anything
[01:04] <aum> i need swap, i only got 1GB RAM
[01:04] <lupine_85> Lysit: assuming your rotuer is <IP_ADDRESS>, that's fine
[01:04] <lupine_85> aum: I've got 512MB
[01:05] <sethk> Lysit, ok.  what are you doing that get's that message about a 172 machine?
[01:05] <mcphail> aum: my laptop doesn't swap with 512MB
[01:05] <lupine_85> ah :)
[01:05] <lupine_85> that would make a difference!
[01:05] <mcphail> aum: you still shouldn't be swapping
[01:05] <aum> is a /boot partition worth it?
[01:05] <b14ck73425> hey does anyone know anything about the through the looking glass project
[01:05] <sethk> aum, no
[01:05] <mcphail> aum: nope
[01:05] <aefkei> out. See ya.
[01:06] <sethk> mcphail, aum, if he is editing several photos, each 400 mb. why wouldn't he be swapping?
[01:06] <mcphail> aum: unless you are using raid/lvm or something
[01:06] <aum> naah, just a straight IDE 300GB
[01:06] <sethk> aum, then a separate boot partition doesn't really buy you anything
[01:06] <lupine_85> snacks: http://www.bentoll.com/~rjdohnert/linapps.html suggests ndiswrapper
[01:07] <snacks> will that work for dapper?
[01:07] <mcphail> sethk: i suppose if he was editing _several_ 400MB monsters!
[01:07] <lupine_85> don't suppose you could output the contents of lsusb (or lspci -n and lspci, if appropriate)
[01:07] <hippy> some1 help with mem=nopentium line...read on a post that amd machines freeze (like mine is doing) and the fix is to enter mem=nopentium into /boot/grub/menu.lst  ...when i tried it said i didn't have permissions to save that read only file help pls
[01:07] <TylerDurdener> someone please... how can i install .tar contents into a folder im restricted to? is there a way to tell it im sudo?
[01:07] <lupine_85> snacks: probably, with a bit of messing around
[01:07] <lupine_85> !ndiswrapper
[01:07] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:07] <lupine_85> it's in the repos
[01:07] <sethk> Lysit, I have to walk my dog for a bit, I'll be back in a bit.  we'll continue then if you are still having a problem.
[01:07] <sethk> TylerDurdener, sudo tar x....
[01:08] <lupine_85> version 1.8 or so (latest version is 1.23)
[01:08] <Lysit> sethk: Its not decided to work somewhat, enter the ip of google into firefox, it loads google, enter google.com or any other into firefox, it refuses connection, ping google.com 8/10 packets recieved.
[01:08] <aum> hmm, maybe then 30GB for /, 150GB for /home, 150GB for /backup
[01:08] <dash_> how do you add a skin to opera in Ubuntu?
[01:08] <TylerDurdener> sethk is there a way to already set it as its open? i have a .tar package open and i just want to extract it without exiting it
[01:08] <lupine_85> not a great deal of point having /backup on the same physical drive, TBH
[01:08] <snacks> lupine: ya, i have used ndiswrapper, but it says that i have an "incorrect driver"
[01:08] <sethk> TylerDurdener, no.
[01:09] <aum> well, then, maybe 50GB for /, 250 for /home
[01:09] <lupine_85> snacks: then try a more recent driver, or a more recent version of ndiswrapper
[01:09] <House> how can i transfer files from ubuntu across a crossover cable onto my mac os x?
[01:09] <mcphail> aum: that's 330GB
[01:09] <aum> 50 + 250 == 300
[01:09] <lupine_85> if you compile your own, then you can get ndiswrapper version 1.23
[01:09] <snacks> lupine: well, i'm sorta having problems installing ndiswrapper
[01:09] <mcphail> aum: 30 +150 +150 == 300 :)
[01:10] <mcphail> 330
[01:10] <mcphail> :(
[01:10] <House> how can i transfer files from ubuntu across a crossover cable onto my mac os x?
[01:10] <lupine_85> mcphail: the 30 no longer there
[01:10] <sethk> House, probably sftp is the simplest way
[01:10] <lupine_85> House: with a bit of faffing around
[01:10] <mcphail> aum: why separate /home?
[01:10] <TylerDurdener> sethk sudo tar x doesnt work, it simply freezes my terminal
[01:10] <lupine_85> mcphail: is good in case you need to reinstall the OS for whatever reason
[01:10] <sethk> TylerDurdener, that's only the beginning of the command
[01:10] <snacks> lupine: i mean that i installed it, but i don't know how to connect to the internet with linux...i just recently installed ubuntu
[01:10] <aum> mcphail: so if i do a clean os install, i can keep /home
[01:10] <sethk> TylerDurdener, if you give me the name of the tar file I'll give you the full command
[01:11] <House> i cant get ubuntu to see any of the shares
[01:11] <mcphail> aum: never really works, though, does it?
[01:11] <lupine_85> snacks: ah. Have you managed to get it to take your driver?
[01:11] <DukeDave> Hey gang, any reports of trouble with Rhythmbox going uninterruptable ?
[01:11] <rc55> Hi - is there any way I can automate software updates to run hourly?
[01:11] <TylerDurdener> sethk the package name is Test.tar.bz2
[01:11] <mcphail> aum: too many orphaned config files
[01:11] <linuchsan> rc55:man crontab
[01:11] <lupine_85> mcphail: I've got a separate /home that I shared between 4 different linux distros at oen point
[01:11] <lupine_85> worked fine
[01:11] <snacks> lupine: what do you mean by "take"?
[01:11] <sethk> TylerDurdener, then (extracting to the current directory):  sudo tar xvjf Test.tar.bz2
[01:11] <lupine_85> "load"
[01:11] <mcphail> lupine_85: i tried it, but had nothing but bother
[01:11] <TylerDurdener> sethk what would the command be to extract it to a different directory?
[01:12] <aum> well, then - maybe 296GB for /home, 4GB for swap?
[01:12] <lupine_85> depends on how you set it all up, I guess :)
[01:12] <mcphail> aum: that would keep it simple
[01:12] <snacks> lupine: i have heard that i can just blacklist some drivers with ndiswrapper
[01:12] <lupine_85> my /home has been through Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Gentoo and SuSE and still works fine
[01:12] <linuchsan> TylerDurdener: -C
[01:12] <sethk> TylerDurdener, if the tarball is in, say, directory /x/y, and you want to extract to /a/b:   cd /a/b; sudo tar xvjf /x/y/Test.tar.bz2
[01:12] <rc55> linuchsan: but doesn't software updates require sudo and manual authentication? how can i get around that?
[01:12] <lupine_85> snacks: depends on whether there's a kernel module (driver) to blacklist
[01:12] <TylerDurdener> thanks sethk
[01:13] <lupine_85> what chipset is the wireless card?
[01:13] <sethk> TylerDurdener, it is going to extract to the current directory, but the tar file can be anywhere
[01:13] <aum> then there's ext3 versus reiser
[01:13] <sethk> TylerDurdener, np
[01:13] <lupine_85> reiserfs, every time
[01:13] <mcphail> ext3!
[01:13] <snacks> lupine: so, how do i check to see if it is working...the lights were already on when i started up ubuntu
[01:13] <lupine_85> reiser :)
[01:13] <mcphail> EXT3!
[01:13] <ChaosFan> xfs
[01:13] <linuchsan> TylerDurdener: -C /to/dir
[01:13] <ChaosFan> ;)
[01:13] <RMorris85> hidden fat16
[01:13] <lupine_85> snacks: run iwconfig and see if there's any devices with wireless extensions listed
[01:13] <lupine_85> why ext3?
[01:13] <lupine_85> it's ext2 with a (dodgy) journal
[01:13] <ChaosFan> because its sane
[01:14] <mcphail> lupine_85: pure, simple reliability
[01:14] <lupine_85> reiserfs 4 (i.e. the current version) is more reliable IME
[01:14] <sethk> lupine_85, ext3 is the most commonly used, and doesn't have the reliability problems that reiserfs has
[01:14] <lupine_85> no reliability problems since version 4
[01:14] <mcphail> lupine_85: very few people would agree
[01:14] <sethk> lupine_85, I've been hearing, for years, "no reliability problems since version 2", "no reliability problems since version 3", ...
[01:15] <darksoule> hello... i need some advice... i want to save my files before i reformat but using the live cd, i cannot get to said files... i crashed vlos (again) and was trying to recover my files through ubuntu... is this even possible anymore?
[01:15] <sethk> aum, that proves nothing.  there are problems.  they don't have to be seen by everyone to be problems.
[01:15] <House> does the live cd have a sftp server?
[01:15] <snacks> lupine: it says that eth2 is working
[01:15] <lupine_85> all I can say is that a series of extended power cuts with ext3 once lost me my entire FS. The same with reiser made no dent at all
[01:15] <billytwowilly> anyone running ubuntu on one of the new macbooks?
[01:15] <snacks> lupine: that is the only one where results show
[01:15] <billytwowilly> do I just use the x86 version of ubunut?
[01:15] <lupine_85> that, and removing the journal every time you want to resize is a bit silly
[01:15] <aum> another topic - is the universe feed generally ok, or is it a seething snake-pit of painful surprises
[01:16] <darksoule> i got the cd in the mail... don't really know what it has...
[01:16] <sethk> aum, generally ok
[01:16] <lupine_85> universe is good :)
[01:16] <snacks> lupine: how do i connect to a network?
[01:16] <Lysit> Ok, seems to be a DNS problem, it'll now ping the google ip, but firefox refuses to load up google using http://google.com, but will googles IP, I've added the DNS my router connects to, however thats not helped (or made things worse)
[01:16] <mcphail> aum: it is reliable
[01:16] <sethk> snacks, I use a cable, but some people use a radio wave
[01:16] <lupine_85> snacks: sudo iwlist <interface> scan
[01:16] <CorpseFeeder> help! I broke my computer. I finished installing the wifi card and now my computer won't boot up at all. I had to physically remove the card from the computer to get it to boot up.
[01:16] <sethk> Lysit, ah, that starts to make sense.
[01:16] <mcphail> aum: just stay away from the compiz repos
[01:16] <snacks> lupine: interface?
[01:16] <lupine_85> that'll give you nearby access points
[01:16] <snacks> okie
[01:16] <lupine_85> the interface of the wireless device
[01:16] <lupine_85> the one you just got from iwconfig :)
[01:16] <sethk> Lysit, if you haven't already, make sure that the router you want is the only one in /etc/resolv.conf
[01:16] <snacks> okie
[01:17] <snacks> and how do i connect if the have WEP?
[01:17] <aum> am i right in the impression that the ubuntu community is now bigger than debian community?
[01:17] <codecaine> hi anybody know how to suppress mouse taps on a touchpad on the laptop?
[01:17] <sethk> aum, I doubt it, but I've seen no hard figures
[01:17] <CromagDK> !dualmonitor
[01:17] <lupine_85> you add the key - sudo iwconfig <interface> key <key>
[01:17] <Lysit> That was how it was set before Sethk, shall put it back and see if its any better
[01:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualmonitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:17] <CorpseFeeder> the computer is just locking up and dieing when it gets to "configuring network interfaces"
[01:17] <linuchsan> Lysit:you can't ping www.google.*
[01:17] <lupine_85> prefix <key> with s: if it's ASCII
[01:17] <aum> 857 in #ubuntu, 581 in #debian
[01:17] <CromagDK> !splitmonitor
[01:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about splitmonitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:17] <linuchsan> Lysit:or any site
[01:17] <CromagDK> !monitor
[01:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:17] <moustafa> i need to instal adept
[01:17] <lupine_85> irc - the one true source of statistics :)
[01:17] <CromagDK> !dualscreen
[01:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualscreen - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <sethk> Lysit, ok.  I thought that's what you had said.  are you certain that's the correct thing to use as DNS?  that's unusual (running a dns server in a router.  Not wrong, but unusual)
[01:18] <moustafa> and evry time i install it can't be open
[01:18] <moustafa> why , i don't knwo
[01:18] <lupine_85> I think Debian is pretty static right now, whereas ubuntu is pulling in most of the people new to linux
[01:18] <moustafa> know*
[01:18] <RMorris85> !somepeopledontknowhowtousethisfeature
[01:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about somepeopledontknowhowtousethisfeature - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:18] <CromagDK> anyone using 2 monitors ?
[01:18] <FurrySaint> ...
[01:18] <webhed> Hello everyone. I think I got hit by the xserver bug and I've updated but now everytime I reboot it only comes to a commandline prompt login. I can login and then do a startx which brings up the gui but I want it to be back to normal, starting automatically.
[01:18] <raindog> Hi.  I'm using Ubuntu Dapper and when I downloaded the deb package for <IP_ADDRESS> and tried to install it over <IP_ADDRESS> it won't let me due to version conflicts.  Do I have to entirely remove/uninstall gnupg <IP_ADDRESS> and all it's dependencies to then install 1.4.5 and it's dependencies??
[01:18] <brian98> CromagDK: what ya wanna know
[01:18] <aum> can gparted resize mounted partitions?
[01:18] <CromagDK> brian98: how to enable with nvidia :)
[01:19] <lupine_85> aum: don't think it would be a good idea
[01:19] <Flyox> Hi
[01:19] <brian98> !nvidia
[01:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:19] <sethk> aum, no.  never try to do any sort of maintenance on a mounted partition.
[01:19] <Lysit> Ok, only DNS is now <IP_ADDRESS>, won't connect using google.com, the win box Im using reports its DNS as <IP_ADDRESS> however
[01:19] <CromagDK> i did that
[01:19] <lupine_85> it probably "can", but I doubt there'd be much left afterwards
[01:19] <CorpseFeeder> my wifi card won't work :( my puter won't boot anymore with it inside. :(
[01:19] <brian98> one sec...
[01:19] <sethk> aum, and never do resizing on a drive when _any_ of the drive's partitions are mounted.
[01:19] <Dutchy> im using the wireless guide on help.ubuntu.com and at one point i have to use the command sudo lshw -C network.... in the example the output has a line ' logical name: ath0' shouldnt my output have a similar line? if yes, how do i fix that?
[01:19] <CromagDK> brian98: thank you
[01:19] <sethk> lupine_85, well, literally true  :)
[01:19] <Flyox> I have a problem with ATI drivers, fglrxinfo shows MESA stuff but I see no error in Xorg.log (drivers 8.28.8)
[01:19] <lupine_85> you can get away with some things while mounted ro, but repartitioning is not one of them
[01:19] <linuchsan> Lysit:you can't ping www.google.*
[01:20] <Flyox> and I have a bunch of DrmOpenDevice in Xorg.log
[01:20] <Lysit> yes
[01:20] <webhed> Hello everyone. I'm using Dapper + nvidia video card. I think I got hit by the xserver bug and I've updated but now everytime I reboot it only comes to a commandline prompt login. I can login and then do a startx which brings up the gui but I want it to be back to normal, starting automatically.
[01:20] <Telroth|School> lysit
[01:20] <brian98> cromagDK. I know with ati you do aticonfig --initial=dual-head
[01:20] <ToHellWithGA> if i want to run a few linux distributions, can they share a /boot partition?
[01:20] <Lysit> pinging google.com works
[01:20] <Telroth|School> set dns to <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:20] <Telroth|School> oh
[01:20] <Telroth|School> well if pinging it works
[01:20] <Telroth|School> then your dns is working
[01:20] <CromagDK> brian98: hmm ok, ill try search for "dual-head"
[01:20] <CromagDK> thnkx
[01:20] <nick58b> CromagDK: man nvidia-xconfig
[01:20] <CromagDK> ah k
[01:21] <linuchsan> Lysit:have you got a proxy set for your brouwser?
[01:21] <sethk> Telroth|School, ping doesn't test dns.  you can ping by ip without any dns at all.
[01:21] <sethk> Telroth|School, to test dns, use the host, or the dig command
[01:21] <nick58b> CromagDK: i think it's called twinview on nvidia
[01:21] <isodude> hey, ehm, alitthle help here.. ff says it has windows open.. and ps ax doesnt show any ff..
[01:21] <CromagDK> oh :)
[01:21] <CorpseFeeder> is there anyway I can get my computer to boot again with the wireless card in it?
[01:21] <Adam_G> sethk, but if pinging google.com works, then the DNS resolved the IP...
[01:21] <CromagDK> !twinview
[01:21] <Telroth|School> sethk, if he's pinging "google.com", then it has to resolve it at some dns :P
[01:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twinview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:21] <CromagDK> ;)
[01:21] <lupine_85> CorpseFeeder: can you boot up in recovery mode?
[01:21] <brian98> CromagDK: Let me have a look at the nvidia stuff for a sec....
[01:21] <RMorris85> So there, I am, in Sri Lanka, formerly Ceylon, at about 3 o'clock in the morning, looking for one thousand brown M&Ms to fill a brandy glass, or Ozzy wouldn't go on stage that night. So, Jeff Beck pops his head 'round the door, and mentions there's a little sweets shop on the edge of town. So - we go. And - it's closed. So there's me, and Keith Moon, and David Crosby, breaking into that little sweets shop, eh. Well, instead of a guard d
[01:22] <sethk> Adam_G, Telroth|School, true, but while troubleshooting it is best to divide and conquer, and to use commands that are as specific as possible
[01:22] <Dutchy> can anyone read up for my question or shall i repeat it?
[01:22] <isodude> so no processes concerning firefox is running and firefox says it's already running :\
[01:22] <Adam_G> true, true
[01:22] <CorpseFeeder> lupine_85: don't know. please wait. i will stick the card back in and reboot.
[01:22] <brian98> cromagdk: google is your friend http://www.google.ie/search?hl=en&q=nvidia+dualhead+config+ubuntu&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[01:22] <Lysit> So whats next thing to test?
[01:22] <lupine_85> Dutchy: ath0 is for cards run by the madwifi driver
[01:22] <webhed> !xorg
[01:22] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:22] <krazykit> anyone brilliant with installing ati-drivers with a custom kernel?  i keep getting "/bin/sh: ./make.sh: Permission denied"
[01:22] <lupine_85> yours could well be ra0, rausb0, wlan0, even eth1
[01:22] <Adam_G> Just wondering if there's anyone in here who's had success with a grapics tablet under ubuntu...
[01:22] <aum> which is better, reiserfs or reiser4?
[01:22] <Telroth|School> krazykit, are you root?
[01:23] <Dutchy> lupine_85: mine doesnt have a logical name at all
[01:23] <lupine_85> if there's no wireless driver installed, then nothing will show
[01:23] <krazykit> Telroth|School: yep
[01:23] <Telroth|School> aum, reiser4 is better, but isn't tested as much
[01:23] <isodude> ext3 rocks.
[01:23] <sethk> Dutchy, use ifconfig -a.  see if it shows up.  with -a, ifconfig shows all interfaces, not just configured interfaces
[01:23] <snacks> lupine: what if the WEP is 128 key?
[01:23] <webhed> Hello everyone. I think I got hit by the xserver bug and I've updated but now everytime I reboot it only comes to a commandline prompt login. I can login and then do a startx which brings up the gui but I want it to be back to normal, starting automatically.
[01:23] <Telroth|School> reiserfs has been tested more
[01:23] <linuchsan> Lysit:wget
[01:23] <sethk> Telroth|School, not better over long term use and in realistic test scenarios.
[01:23] <lupine_85> snacks: in that situation, I have no idea
[01:23] <lupine_85> !wep
[01:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:23] <Dutchy> lupine_85: it doesnt show up
[01:24] <sethk> Telroth|School, one can devise tests that make any fs look "better".
[01:24] <lupine_85> Dutchy: then install the relavant wireless drivers :)
[01:24] <sethk> Telroth|School, google, you'll find interesting data.
[01:24] <Lysit> Resolving www.google.com... <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:24] <Dutchy> configuration: driver=ipw3945 <= makes me think they were installed
[01:24] <TylerDurdener> sethk, still having problems. cd'd to /a/b/ (where i wanted to extract the tar) and did sudo tar xvjf /Desktop/ (where it is) tarname.tar.bz2 and it said Desktop is not a directory, it also said tarname.tar.bz2 wasnt found in archive
[01:24] <Lysit> That don't seem good
[01:24] <Dutchy> i used ndiswrappers for it
[01:24] <linuchsan> Lysit:or lynx
[01:24] <lupine_85> in that case, the module in question should be called ndiswrapper
[01:24] <brian98> Dutchy: was it recognised b4 you used ndiswrapper
[01:25] <lupine_85> blacklist the ipw3945 module, as it'll be conflicting with ndiswrapper
[01:25] <Telroth|School> Lysit, try setting your dns server to <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:25] <aum> so reiser4 could pack a few 'fun surprises' ?
[01:25] <sethk> TylerDurdener, I've never seen a machine with a directory named /Desktop.  you are probably looking for a Desktop subdirectory of your home directory
[01:25] <lupine_85> alternatively, since there's a native driver, you could dump ndiswrapper
[01:25] <Telroth|School> aum, it's possible
[01:25] <sethk> TylerDurdener, try ~/Desktop
[01:25] <yacine> Hi there again!
[01:25] <Telroth|School> i've been using it for a while without problems
[01:25] <Telroth|School> but said surprises are more likely in 4 than 3 (reiserfs = version 3)
[01:25] <brian98> lupine_85: it was acx that was causing me the prob - thats what I had to blacklist
[01:26] <Dutchy> hmmm... difficult stuff
[01:26] <TylerDurdener> sethk ok that fixed that problem, now it still says it can't tarname.tar.bz2 wasn't found in archive
[01:26] <sethk> TylerDurdener, the "not found in archive" message means that it thinks you gave it the name of a file to extract.  that's caused by a syntax error in the command, possibly you put an extra space somewhere
[01:26] <FurrySaint> <_<
[01:26] <FurrySaint> >_>
[01:26] <lupine_85> decisions decisions :)
[01:26] <sethk> TylerDurdener, ok, your command is wrong then.  Paste the command you are using and I'll tell you how to fix it.
[01:26] <CromagDK> thnkx brian98 found that to :)
[01:26] <TylerDurdener>  sudo tar xvjf ~/Desktop tarname.tar.bz2
[01:26] <aum> can gparted resize reiserfs or reiser4 partitions?
[01:26] <lupine_85> aum: it can
[01:26] <dash_> anybody use *.debuntu.org repositories?
[01:26] <Telroth|School> TylerDurdener, sudo -xjf tarname.tar.bz2 ~/Desktop
[01:26] <sethk> TylerDurdener, sudo tar xvjf ~/Desktop/tarname.tar.bz2
[01:26] <riddlebox> I have a second drive that I setup during the install, but now my users cannot write to it?
[01:26] <Kirby904> hello again guys
[01:27] <lupine_85> (at least, the installer can, and I assume it uses gparted or something like it)
[01:27] <sethk> Telroth|School, hm?  no.
[01:27] <FurrySaint> Question... Can I add Ubuntu to a blank hard drive on my system, and dual boot it and Windows XP?
[01:27] <sethk> TylerDurdener, the tar file name is ~/Desktop/tarname.tar.bz2
[01:27] <lupine_85> riddlebox: is it a windows/fat32 drive?
[01:27] <Telroth|School> sethk, sorry, wasn't quite sure what he wanted
[01:27] <sethk> Telroth|School, k :)
[01:27] <docgnome> does anyone know where dansguardian keeps it's default access denyed page?
[01:27] <riddlebox> reiserfs
[01:27] <mcphail> FurrySaint: yes
[01:27] <Telroth|School> TylerDurdener, listen to sethk, there's so much text in here it's hard to follow any specific problem
[01:27] <lupine_85> ok, just change the permissions of the mountpoint?
[01:27] <webhed> Hello everyone. I think I got hit by the xserver bug and I've updated but now everytime I reboot it only comes to a commandline prompt login. I can login and then do a startx which brings up the gui but I want it to be back to normal, starting automatically.
[01:27] <lupine_85> that should do the trick
[01:27] <sethk> riddlebox, may be a reiserfs glitch.  more probably a file ownership problem.
[01:28] <TylerDurdener> that worked sethk, thanks... i dont understand why i cant set myself as root or temp sudo from the tar GUI though :S
[01:28] <Telroth|School> webhed, check /var/log/X.org.log for errors
[01:28] <FurrySaint> mcphail: Anything special I need to do to do it? Or just the standard install?
[01:28] <sethk> TylerDurdener, the programmers didn't build the capability in.
[01:28] <Telroth|School> webhed, check the default runlevel in /etc/inittab if that doesn't work
[01:28] <Kirby904> Q = Where can i get security programs for my 6.06
[01:28] <lupine_85> TylerDurdener: you can run the GUI as sudo/root...
[01:28] <sethk> TylerDurdener, there isn't really a "why", it's arbitrary.  :)
[01:28] <riddlebox> sethk, how?
[01:28] <lupine_85> ...not generally to be recommended though
[01:28] <sethk> lupine_85, yes, he knows, he wants to change the permissions after launching it.
[01:28] <isodude> hm, someone who could look over my question?! =) ff says it's running but it's not, I've check for gnome-www-browser and firefox processes and the ps ax list.. but I can't find anything merely related to firefox.. please help? ;-)
[01:29] <webhed> telroth: thanks - checking now
[01:29] <mcphail> FurrySaint: just remember that the bootloader needs to go on the primary hard drive (i.e. the winxp drive)
[01:29] <Telroth|School> TylerDurdener, "sudo ark" loads the GUI tar with root priviledges
[01:29] <Commander-Crowe> !stats
[01:29] <sethk> riddlebox, how it can be a file ownership problem?   do ls -ld /mount/point
[01:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:29] <TylerDurdener> sethk :( im a windows transfer, im used to having it easy hehe. Telroth|School thanks ill use that next time
[01:29] <Commander-Crowe> I'm shocked
[01:29] <Kirby904> Q = Where can i get security programs for my 6.06?
[01:29] <sethk> riddlebox, /mount/point is wherever you mounted the file system.
[01:29] <brian98> cromagdk: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56564&highlight=fishing+pole should help
[01:29] <lupine_85> surely a better solution would be to create a relevent group ?
[01:29] <yacin1> Sorry.... Problems of connection
[01:30] <Farrier> Question: Upgrading from breezy to badger following the ubuntu.org FAQ, I get the error from apt-get update: "gzip:stdin:not in gzip format" for [...] /dapper/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz (full output and errors on http://pastebin.co.uk/760 ) - anyone know why?
[01:30] <riddlebox> yeah I know that but I did chmod 755 /media/drive2 and that didnt work
[01:30] <square> guys, could i upgrade to gnome 2.16?
[01:30] <sethk> lupine_85, yes, once you've confirmed the nature of the problem.
[01:30] <Telroth|School> TylerDurdener, it's a bit of a learning curve, but have you ever wondered why there's no anti-virus software for linux? (or very little of it anyways)
[01:30] <bruenig> square, if you want to compile it yourself I suppose
[01:30] <yacin1> Brian98: thanks for your help!
[01:30] <sethk> riddlebox, you are confusing the mount point with the file permissions
[01:30] <square> would i break anything?
[01:30] <yacin1> I really appreciate it
[01:30] <Kirby904> Q = Where can i get security programs for my 6.06?
[01:30] <FurrySaint> mcphail: Ergh... Last time I did that, Windows hosed itself, and when I reinstalled, it didn't like things and BOY was it a pain sorting things out. >_<
[01:30] <sethk> riddlebox, if the thing is mounted, you need to use chmod -R to get all the files in the tree.
[01:30] <raindog> When booting, before the user/pass screen, my screen looks like static for a split second and then continues just like normal.  I'm using Dapper and it only started doing this after I downloaded all the latest updates.  Any ideas on how to get rid of this annoyance.  I don't want my friends that I'm trying to convert to Ubuntu to see this and think that it is unstable.
[01:30] <brian98> yacinl: did it work?
[01:31] <Telroth|School> Kirby904, 99.9% of security is the user and the user knowing what the computer should and shouldn't be doing.
[01:31] <sethk> riddlebox, also, get out of the habit of using numbers with chmod.  it's error prone.  use things like   chmod -R a+r /mount/point/.
[01:31] <riddlebox> how do I change the permissions on the mount point?
[01:31] <mcphail> FurrySaint: Be careful :)
[01:31] <Telroth|School> raindog, that's just X loading.
[01:31] <sethk> riddlebox, you don't usually.  the mount point permissions don't matter
[01:31] <Kirby904> I know Tel, but i am aware that you can get viruses from just being online...
[01:31] <bruenig> no numbers with chmod? but I love chmod numbers
[01:31] <FurrySaint> ...Gee. Thanks. --;
[01:31] <sethk> riddlebox, you can change the mount point permissions with chmod, like any other directory
[01:31] <mcphail> FurrySaint: the other option would be to install GRUB onto a boot floppy
[01:31] <Telroth|School> Kirby904, not really.
[01:31] <sethk> riddlebox, when the file system is not mounted, of course
[01:32] <Kirby904> Im just not sure if u can with linux, i never used linux before
[01:32] <dash_> does anybody know anything about debuntu.org ?
[01:32] <lupine_85> Kirby904: there's about two different viruses for linux right now
[01:32] <lupine_85> neither of them are prevalent in the wild
[01:32] <TylerDurdener> Telroth|School actually ark is not a command >.< im using gdebi and sudo gdebi won't work. im also not worried about spyware/viruses :) im pretty savvy with that stuff and know where they lurk so i dont get any on my windows machine
[01:32] <raindog> Telroth|School:  hmm, I've never seen it before on any other Ubuntu install I've had.
[01:32] <Kirby904> oh ok, i never knew that, im new here
[01:32] <lupine_85> exploits are the major problem
[01:32] <yacin1> Brian98: It logged out and with the message to delete /tmp/ .X0-lock
[01:32] <Kirby904> new to linux
[01:32] <Kirby904> =]
[01:32] <Telroth|School> Kirby904, i think sshd is off by default and apache isn't installed, so you're pretty good
[01:32] <brian98> yacinl: excellent
[01:32] <CorpseFeeder> lupine_85: no.. the computer will not even boot in recovery mode - just locks up dead at "configuring network interfaces"
[01:32] <Kirby904> ya ok =] , but is there a way i can get at least like Firestarter?
[01:33] <Kirby904> i looked on the site and theres no version for 6.06
[01:33] <mcphail> lupine_85: it has been tried. They don't work
[01:33] <Telroth|School> uh, if it's a package try "sudo apt-get install firestarter"
[01:33] <yacin1> Brian98: I logged again and disabled all keyboard accessibility features...
[01:33] <lupine_85> CorpseFeeder: ok, I think what you need to do is comment out the details for the card in /etc/network/interfaces then
[01:33] <sethk> walking dog, be back soon ...
[01:33] <lupine_85> mcphail: interesting, thanks
[01:33] <brian98> yacinl: I've been running redhat on servers for a longtime but desktops is quite new to me.. So I understand nix but have been working through all the 'desktop' probs
[01:33] <riddlebox> sethk, I have created a folder on that drive with sudo, then I ran the chmod command you said and still my normal user can not write in there?
[01:33] <lupine_85> presumably they use all manner of  undocumented features :)
[01:33] <Dutchy> lupine_85: i created the blacklist file, what do i need to do use ndiswrapper now? to 'refresh' it so it uses ndiswrapper? (yeah all this stuff is way over my head, ne to all this)
[01:33] <yacin1> Brian98: Here I am back again! using Ubuntu :)
[01:33] <brian98> n1
[01:33] <Kirby904> where do i type that
[01:33] <isodude> is there any firefox pid that one could delete?
[01:34] <Kirby904> lol
[01:34] <Dutchy> new*
[01:34] <FurrySaint> What is GRUB? The bootloader?
[01:34] <bruenig> !grub
[01:34] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:34] <lupine_85> Dutchy: just "sudo rmmod ndiswrapper" then "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" should do the trick
[01:34] <FurrySaint> >_>
[01:34] <FurrySaint> Okies.
[01:34] <mcphail> FurrySaint: yes
[01:34] <Telroth|School> Kirby904, i've maintained a windows xp computer without anti-spyware or anti-virus software for 2 years without getting a virus. it's the user that matters the most when it comes to security ;)
[01:34] <lupine_85> or you could reboot, which is a pain but slightly cleaner
[01:34] <Telroth|School> Kirby904, you type that in a command line
[01:34] <FurrySaint> Groovy.
[01:34] <Kirby904> oh ok ty
[01:35] <bruenig> isodude, pid?
[01:35] <codecaine> anybanybody know how to supress a mouse?
[01:35] <Telroth|School> codecaine, disconnect it?
[01:35] <mcphail> Telroth|School: how do you know you don't have a virus if you haven't run any software???
[01:35] <lupine_85> codecaine: warfarin ?
[01:35] <codecaine> touchpad
[01:35] <webhed> telroth: I dont see anything blazingly obvious in my var/log/xorg... but /etc/inittab shows # The default runlevel. id:2:initdefault:
[01:35] <yacin1> Brian98: Thx agian.... So long !
[01:35] <brian98> no worries !!!
[01:35] <webhed> What should it be? like 5 or 4?
[01:35] <nwbreneman> Hi, I just installed Windows XP on a separate partition, and then reinstalled grub. The problem is Windows doesn't appear on the grub menu, and I don't know how to get it back, and can't find a clear answer on the net. Could someone help me please?
[01:35] <Telroth|School> mcmillen, because i watch my process list any my router and i can tell when the internet is being used and shouldn't be or my harddrive is being used and shouldn't be
[01:35] <Kirby904> =o
[01:35] <Telroth|School> mcmillen, stuff like that
[01:35] <brian98> !grub
[01:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:36] <bruenig> nwbreneman, you need to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:36] <Telroth|School> webhed, mine's set to 2
[01:36] <nwbreneman> I reinstalled grub according to those instructions.
[01:36] <webhed> hm
[01:36] <webhed> ok
[01:36] <krazykit> ugh.  make keeps failing for ati-drivers.
[01:36] <Dutchy> ill try rebooting because the commands didnt do what i meant to do
[01:36] <Telroth|School> webhed, 2 isn't standard for most distros, so i'm looking into it
[01:36] <nwbreneman> Bruenig, what exactly do I put?
[01:36] <mcphail> Telroth|School: what about trojans or rootkits?
[01:36] <webhed> when I reboot it comes to the commandline login prompt
[01:36] <riddlebox> sethk, I have created a folder on that drive with sudo, then I ran the chmod command you said and still my normal user can not write in there?
[01:36] <webhed> thanks telroth
[01:36] <Telroth|School> webhed, what is the default runlevel currently?
[01:37] <bruenig> nwbreneman, what partition is windows on?
[01:37] <nwbreneman> hd0,1 I think. ubuntu is hd0,0
[01:37] <CorpseFeeder> oko - i am looking at the interfaces file in /etc/network... what do I comment out?
[01:37] <webhed> this is what etc/inittab shows:
[01:37] <webhed> # The default runlevel.
[01:37] <webhed> id:2:initdefault:
[01:37] <Lysit> Ok, so etc/resolv.conf is set to <IP_ADDRESS>, direct ip works in browser, google.com and whatever else don't, any ideas, kinda annoying:/
[01:37] <jefersom2004> alguem do Brasil?
[01:37] <Telroth|School> webhed, type "ls /etc/rc2.d | grep kdm" and tell me if it shows "S99kdm"
[01:37] <brian98> webhed: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56564&highlight=fishing+pole
[01:38] <nwbreneman> bruenig, to be exact, it's hda2
[01:38] <webhed> Telroth: I get nothing from the grep
[01:38] <linuchsan> Lysit:what is your isp dns?
[01:38] <isodude> bruenig: yeah, like normal apps do, create a .pid file so the app knows that it's running already..
[01:38] <shadowhywind> evening (morning) all
[01:38] <webhed> Telroth: can we talk in a different window? its hard to see the conversation with all the other stuff flying by.
[01:38] <isodude> like, /var/run/$app.pid
[01:39] <Lysit> ISP DNS is <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:39] <Lysit> <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:39] <aSt3raL_> anyone know where to find images that can be used for buttons on a media player?
[01:39] <bruenig> nwbreneman, add the following lines "title        XP"   "root          (hd0,1)"     "makeactive"    "chainloader   +1", make sure to return after each set of quotation marks and put the new quoted stuff on a new line
[01:39] <Farrier> Question: "sudo apt-get update" gives me "gzip: stdin: not in gzip format" when upgrading from breezy to dapper - any idea why?
[01:39] <nwbreneman> excellent, thank you! I'll be sure to save this for future use!
[01:39] <CorpseFeeder> lupine? what do i comment out... and btw what is the comment character(s) anyway?
[01:39] <webhed> brian98: what is that about
[01:39] <jefersom2004> ninguem sabe portugues
[01:40] <bruenig> !pt
[01:40] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:40] <moustafa> i need help please
[01:40] <linuchsan> Lysit:echo nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> >> /etc/resolv.conf
[01:40] <isodude> bohoo, my ff will never run again :o
[01:40] <moustafa> i want to install  Java Virtual Machine  for ubuntu
[01:40] <moustafa> what can i do?
[01:40] <lupine_85> CorpseFeeder: # is the comment character. Comment out everything which isn't to do with lo or your ethernet interfaces (e.g. eth0)
[01:40] <brian98> webhed: Someone having a similar problem to yours I believe
[01:41] <shadowhywind> look at the how-to moustafa, worked like a charm for me
[01:41] <Lysit> Ok done
[01:41] <dionys> can somebody help me with my ati card (fglrx) amd64 ubuntu ?
[01:41] <lupine_85> in all likelihood, all you'll have is "auto <interface>" and "iface <interface> inet dhcp"
[01:41] <brian98> dionsys: whats the problem
[01:41] <dionys> well
[01:41] <Telroth> webhed, you have to register your nickname before you can PM me
[01:41] <FurrySaint> My thanks for the help, people.
[01:41] <Dutchy> lupine_85: now the 'driver: ' part has disappeared completely... does that mean im screwed and that the ndiswrapper drivers dont work?
[01:41] <dionys> I did $ sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-<your-kernel-version> xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:42] <moustafa> i need help
[01:42] <dionys> then backuped my xorg.conf
[01:42] <lupine_85> Dutchy: have you installed the Windows driver yet?
[01:42] <brian98> yup
[01:42] <moustafa> i need to install  Java Virtual Machine for my system ubuntu
[01:42] <webhed> Telroth: Ok. I thought I had registered it but I'll do it now.
[01:42] <dionys> changed to fglrx
[01:42] <lupine_85> (e.g. what does ndiswrapper -l say?)
[01:42] <dionys> driver
[01:42] <CorpseFeeder> ok. well i've run out of time now so I'll have to try that later. bye
[01:42] <bruenig> !sun-java5-jdk
[01:42] <dionys> when I press crtl alt backspace it reboots x with a black screen
[01:42] <ubotu> sun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional.  Whats the syntax/command to register your nick?
[01:43] <brian98> try aticonfig --initial
[01:43] <dionys> i changed it true recovery mode
[01:44] <dionys> did that allready
[01:44] <lupine_85>  /msg nickserv register <password>
[01:44] <brian98> hrm
[01:44] <lupine_85> I think
[01:44] <Dutchy> lupine_85: it says no wireles extensions
[01:44] <dionys> fglrx mod should b running
[01:44] <dionys> how do I know it is ?
[01:44] <Lysit> Ahah, Secondary ISP DNS seems to have done it
[01:44] <lupine_85> Dutchy: seems like ndiswrapper is misbehaving then
[01:45] <_JuDgEn_> gnite everyone
[01:45] <_JuDgEn_> 01:45 here =)
[01:45] <lupine_85> you might want to try blacklisting ndiswrapper and having a go with the native driver
[01:45] <dannyr> hi, How can I set up .spamassiassin directory and auto-whitelist  bayes_seen  bayes_toks  user_prefs in the etc/skel directory - I have searched until I have turned blue<g>
[01:45] <merch> webhed, you can do /msg nickserv help for list of commands.
[01:45] <Dutchy> ok
[01:45] <Splinter> be sure that you typed
[01:45] <brian98> dionsys: brian@brian-linux:~$ modprobe -l | grep fg
[01:45] <w3rdn4> How would anyone here go about making 75k in one year? These rules apply, must be legal, and the one making 75k in a year is a college student who cannot do anything except go to classes, and maybe work 20 hours a week.
[01:45] <Splinter> make uninstall before make install on ndiswrapper
[01:45] <linuchsan> Lysit:than we are all happy
[01:46] <brian98> should see fglrx.ko
[01:46] <lupine_85> w3rdn4: I'd rob a bank. What would you do?
[01:46] <Farrier> w3rdn4: drop out, get a real job? :)
[01:46] <Gunnar> :)
[01:46] <Splinter> make uninstall caused me 3 days of wondering what was wrong with ndiswrapper
[01:46] <lupine_85> (criminals don't have to follow rules!)
[01:46] <vapermonkey00> so i am trying to set up play online viewer and i cant use the net with wine  i am a noob
[01:47] <vapermonkey00> how can do i do that
[01:47] <dionys> brian98, /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-amd64-k8/volatile/fglrx.ko
[01:47] <RedRose> ok, so let's say i want to recompile the ACPI module for the kernel, can anyone tell me how to do that?
[01:47] <dionys> thats good ..
[01:47] <w3rdn4> lupine_85, I have multiple ideas A) make a christian book called ,"Jesus and ME" B) Make an album get 50k of myspace friends and make a world debute to sell the album for 10 bucks a piece C) Do 375 dj gigs @ 200 bucks a piece
[01:47] <brian98> it's loaded ok
[01:47] <mcphail> !offtopic
[01:47] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter.   I used to insert my flash drive (usb) and it would automount ont gnome desktop. Now it does not. I booted from Ubuntu 6.0.6 install cd and it automounted.  Can anybody help me?
[01:48] <lupine_85> w3rdn4: go for it then
[01:48] <dionys> not standby
[01:48] <dionys> it flikkers for a sec
[01:48] <dionys> then it stayes the same color
[01:48] <Bobby> i need some help with a ADSL USB Modem
[01:48] <brian98> you get to a prompt with ctrl-alt f1
[01:48] <brian98> ?
[01:48] <dionys> no
[01:48] <dionys> :(
[01:48] <Juan>  I'm getting information right now, but I need some answers about the instalation. First of all does this linux erase the info that I have in my computer?
[01:48] <dionys> tryed that
[01:48] <w3rdn4> Arafangion, what appeals to the slashdot.com crowd?
[01:48] <Bobby> i need some help with a ADSL USB Modem
[01:48] <lupine_85> Juan: it can, but doesn't have to
[01:49] <brian98> what card is it?
[01:49] <lupine_85> depends on what you tell it to do :)
[01:49] <Juan> another solution to dual boot
[01:49] <dash_> how do I show active processes again?
[01:49] <Arafangion> w3rdn4: Anything, so long as it appeals to the slashdot crowd :)
[01:49] <Bobby> i need some help with a ADSL USB Modem
[01:49] <lupine_85> yes, you can dual-boot
[01:49] <quack> yes
[01:49] <Zorlac> Ubuntu won't install on my HD, it says it can't write the partition
[01:49] <w3rdn4> Arafangion, hmmmmmm
[01:49] <RedRose> ok, so let's say i want to recompile the ACPI module for the kernel, can anyone tell me how to do that?
[01:49] <dionys> its an x1900XTX
[01:49] <w3rdn4> maybe I should make a shirt for thinkgeek
[01:49] <Zorlac> Any way to cleann format my hd so it can?
[01:49] <Juan> any info???
[01:49] <brian98> dionsys: if you remove the ati driver will it boot with the standard driver
[01:49] <lupine_85> redrose: download and install the kernel source, and go from there
[01:49] <Arafangion> w3rdn4: If you must do music, try inserting 'C64' into the song, or sell it with "cool blue lights" in the packaging.
[01:49] <krazykit> so, um.  where should /lib/modules/(version)/build link to?
[01:49] <Arafangion> w3rdn4: In ogg format, of course.
[01:50] <lupine_85> krazykit: /usr/src/relevent-directory
[01:50] <Bobby> hello
[01:50] <Bobby> i need some help with a ADSL USB Modem
[01:50] <dionys> ? what you mean brian98 change is back to vesa ?
[01:50] <dionys> or ?
[01:50] <lupine_85> usually /usr/src/linux-headers`uname -r`
[01:50] <brian98> yeah, did you get x then?
[01:50] <dionys> ya
[01:50] <dionys> np's
[01:50] <mortal5> how would i remove software, and it's deps, given that they're not being used by other programs
[01:50] <krazykit> lupine_85: thanks
[01:50] <dionys> im on vesa atm
[01:50] <lupine_85> erm, linux-headers-`uname -r`
[01:50] <brian98> ok ok
[01:50] <w3rdn4> Arafangion, commoder 64
[01:51] <lupine_85> bah, VIC20 rocks! :D
[01:51] <Flyoc> anybody has ATI drivers 8.28.8 working with dapper ?
[01:51] <brian98> you used apt-get to get the drivers or ... ?
[01:51] <lupine_85> won't run linux though :(
[01:51] <Bobby> i have a Zyxel 630-C11 USB ADSL Modem which i cant get to work with Ubuntu
[01:51] <Arafangion> w3rdn4: Comodore 64, spell it properly!
[01:51] <Dhjiz> wow i discoverd something great
[01:51] <Dhjiz> (hello :D)
[01:51] <brian98> do share
[01:51] <w3rdn4> Arafangion, where can I emulate the sounds of that wild beast of a machine?
[01:51] <Dhjiz> i can launch two session, one in gnome and one in kde at the same time :D
[01:51] <Arafangion> w3rdn4: Ohh, I think you're onto something.
[01:52] <Dhjiz> (and the gnome one has xgl)
[01:52] <Zorlac> Anyone know why ubuntu can't write to my hard drive?
[01:52] <lupine_85> Zorlac: is it ntfs?
[01:52] <bbrazil> mortal5: see deborphan
[01:52] <brian98> Commodore 64
[01:52] <Zorlac> lupine_85: it can't write partitions.
[01:52] <lupine_85> C=64
[01:52] <Arafangion> brian98: Thanks :)
[01:52] <Bobby> i have a Zyxel 630-C11 USB ADSL Modem which i cant get to work with Ubuntu
[01:52] <mortal5> bbrazil: ty
[01:52] <lupine_85> is it mounted?
[01:52] <Juan> lupine, in the instalation progress, It let you choose to where I need to save the files? Also, can Ubuntu make a partition of the hard drive without delete the information?
[01:52] <lupine_85> (daft question, I know)
[01:52] <Zorlac> well, i'm mnot too sure on that.
[01:52] <dionys> brian98,  I used this line exactly sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-26-amd64-k8 xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:53] <Zorlac> But i'd assume the ubuntu installer would try to mount the hd when installing.
[01:53] <Dutchy> lupine_85: now it says configuration: driver=ipw3945 again but still no logical address and iwconfig doesnt show it either
[01:53] <Bobby> how can i reach some one who can help me figure this out ?
[01:53] <lupine_85> Juan: it can resize partitions (although I'm not sure if it can do so with ntfs - maybe someone else can clarify)
[01:53] <krazykit> hum
[01:53] <CromagDK> brian98: thnkx it worked :)
[01:53] <krazykit> maybe ati-drivers just don't work with 2.6.18-rc6 :-(
[01:53] <CromagDK> only refreshrate different
[01:53] <Zorlac> My hard drive had paritions, but fdisk doesn't show them.
[01:53] <Bobby> how can i reach some one who can help me figure this out ?
[01:53] <brian98> cromagdk: n1
[01:53] <lupine_85> Dutchy: http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/
[01:53] <Juan> great question, I have NTFS because I'm usin Windows XP
[01:53] <lupine_85> looks like you need to get the firmware
[01:53] <linuchsan> Zorlac: >lupine_85:is it ntfs?
[01:54] <CromagDK> mon0@85 and mon1@65
[01:54] <Zorlac> It has an ntfs parition.
[01:54] <lupine_85> linuchsan: the problem is writing partitions :)
[01:54] <Zorlac> if thats what you want
[01:54] <Juan> ok thanks
[01:54] <dionys> thats right isnt it brian98 ? :)
[01:54] <Zorlac> I was thinking maybe the MBR is messed up lupine, any way to just clean format the drive fresh?
[01:54] <Zorlac> so that i can write partitions on it again, and label it a msdos drive?
[01:54] <Zorlac> I can't evenn label it, it feels like it failed but i'm not too sure on nthat
[01:54] <brian98> dionys: I don't have 64bit here so I dunno.....
[01:54] <Bobby> i have a Zyxel 630-C11 USB ADSL Modem which i cant get to work with Ubuntu
[01:54] <Bobby> i have a Zyxel 630-C11 USB ADSL Modem which i cant get to work with Ubuntu
[01:54] <Bobby> i have a Zyxel 630-C11 USB ADSL Modem which i cant get to work with Ubuntu
[01:54] <pushpop-> I remember seeing somewhere a software KMV Switch has anyone heard of such a thing?
[01:54] <Bobby> i have a Zyxel 630-C11 USB ADSL Modem which i cant get to work with Ubuntu
[01:54] <Bobby> i have a Zyxel 630-C11 USB ADSL Modem which i cant get to work with Ubuntu
[01:55] <Telroth> lupine_85, you have to use ntfsresize to resize ntfs partitions
[01:55] <lupine_85> rewriting the partition table is easy - just sudo fdisk /dev/hd?
[01:55] <brian98> hey
[01:55] <CromagDK> thnkx for the spam we love
[01:55] <kittyhawk> hello - I have a strange problem that I don't know how to start troubleshooting.  Can anybody help?
[01:55] <kittyhawk> the problem is: my wireless performance degrades quickly from boot and after a short time becomes 0.
[01:55] <kittyhawk> at that point I am cut off and unable to reconnect
[01:55] <kittyhawk> ifdown ra0 and ifup ra0 don't help - I fail to get a dhcp lease on the ifup
[01:55] <lupine_85> Telroth: does the installer do that automagically?
[01:55] <kittyhawk> by the way If I disappear, you'll know why :)
[01:55] <krazykit> Bobby: spamming the channel is an excellent way of not getting help
[01:55] <Telroth> lupine_85, i don't like fdisk, it's trashed too many drives
[01:55] <dionys> I had the choise between generic and k8
[01:55] <Telroth> lupine_85, failed to fix, rather, the drives were already trashed
[01:55] <dionys> I had generic before but now I picked k8
[01:55] <dionys> does that matter ?
[01:55] <dionys> or?
[01:55] <lupine_85> kittyhawk: try updating the driver - the rt2500 driver with ubuntu is pretty out of date
[01:55] <brian98> dionsys: Maybe someone else here would have more experience with the 64bit stuff and the ATI drivers....
[01:55] <Bobby> ok sure but if i could AT LEAT GET THE ATENTION OF SOMEONE IT WOULD BE GREAT
[01:56] <Zorlac> lupine_85: i sudo'd into root, fdsik /dev/hda, and then there are no partitions.
[01:56] <mwe> !shout
[01:56] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:56] <brian98> I'm really sorry but I have no way of even trying it here!
[01:56] <brian98> sorry :((((((
[01:56] <dionys> k
[01:56] <dionys> np's:)
[01:56] <Flannel> Bobby: Do you really want 800 people telling you they don't know how to help?
[01:56] <Telroth> lupine_85, i don't know if it auto-resizes, i would think so considering majority of users are going to have a single ntfs partion that takes the entire drive when they start
[01:56] <Farrier> We can ignore uppercase too :P
[01:56] <lupine_85> repo line: "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk dapper main"  install the ralink-drivers pckage in question
[01:56] <brendonjt> !ubotu-brendonjt
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about brendonjt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <dionys> isnt there a 64bit chan ?
[01:56] <lupine_85> Telroth: cool, thanks
[01:56] <mwe> Bobby: you'll get banned really soon if you continue like that
[01:56] <lupine_85> will remember that
[01:56] <brendonjt> !ubotu >brendonjt
[01:56] <Bobby> ok ill stop
[01:56] <Bobby> but dude i need help
[01:56] <Bobby> please get back to me
[01:56] <lupine_85> chances are, nobody's come across that situation
[01:57] <lupine_85> hence, can't help
[01:57] <brian98> bobby: purchase an ethernet router...
[01:57] <Flannel> Bobby: best thing to do is repeat your question every half hour or so.  While continuing to research forums, google, etc.
[01:57] <Farrier> kittyhawk: Could it be your adapter overheating? Only thing I can think of I'm afraid. Also try changing the adapter speed down to really low (1m/sec) and see if the problem continues?
[01:57] <brian98> www.ebay.com
[01:57] <lupine_85> the forum is usually a better bet, as mre people pop along
[01:57] <bhearsum> is it possible to add support for hibernating on my desktop computer?
[01:57] <kittyhawk> Farrier: how?
[01:57] <Zorlac> Sigh, is there a "format" command in linux? lol
[01:57] <lupine_85> Farrier: the rt2500 driver in dapper is a year out of date
[01:57] <Dutchy> lupine_85: do you mean the 'requirements' part on that page? i dont see anything about firmware
[01:57] <lupine_85> Zorlac: mkfs
[01:57] <Bobby> LOL would be great but my ISP wants me to use this
[01:57] <kittyhawk> lupine_85: how?
[01:58] <lupine_85> Dutchy: "# The binary microcode image, available here. "
[01:58] <fasdfasdf> good evenin
[01:58] <Bobby> plus if i want a Ethernet router they are charging me 10$ monthly
[01:58] <lupine_85> kittyhawk: with the repo line I just gave you :)#
[01:58] <kittyhawk> oops, sorry.
[01:58] <Dutchy> difficult words for firmware? :P
[01:58] <CromagDK> Bobby: buy one :)
[01:58] <dionys> btw brian98
[01:58] <lupine_85> add it to your /etc/sources.list (possibly using synaptic if you prefer)
[01:58] <brian98> ya
[01:58] <gnomefreak> Bobby: go pay 50-100 USD for a router and be done with the payments
[01:58] <kittyhawk> I got cut off for a while and got the whole group at once.
[01:58] <dionys> I cant do fglrxconfigure
[01:58] <fasdfasdf> how to get karma with support(in launchpad)?
[01:58] <kittyhawk> whole chat that is
[01:58] <dionys> is that normall?
[01:58] <lupine_85> then update your sources and search for ralink-
[01:58] <Farrier> kittyhawk: good question. I don't know, never used wifi on linux I'm afraid. Hnece the very generic suggestions.
[01:58] <gnomefreak> Bobby: my motorola was only 50ish
[01:59] <lupine_85> Dutchy: yep, sorry
[01:59] <dionys> I mean fglrxconfig
[01:59] <kittyhawk> Farrier: me neither.  I'll try to figure it out
[01:59] <gnomefreak> fasdfasdf: bug reports and other ways you might want to ask in #launchpad
[01:59] <brian98> I don't have that file...
[01:59] <lupine_85> do what it tells you to with the "microcode", and then either rmmod then modprobe the driver, or reboot again, and you might havemore luck
[01:59] <fasdfasdf> gnomefreak: i did,but there are very few people
[01:59] <brian98> fglrxinfo
[01:59] <Dutchy> lupine_85: np, im already glad there's someone who know's what he's doing, cuz i for sure dont :)
[01:59] <CromagDK> i use a cisco router and have no problem, might wanna try a Zyxel router between ADSL modem and Ubuntu box Bobby
[01:59] <brian98> do you have that?
[02:00] <lupine_85> note that i've never used that driver before :)
[02:00] <lupine_85> router->USB modem is usually a non-sequiter
[02:00] <lupine_85> pick up a Zyxel P660-R for 40 (1-port Ethernet adsl modem+router) and use that instead
[02:00] <tuxtheslacker>   realplayer: Depends: xlibs but it is not installable can someone please help me fix that?
[02:00] <lupine_85> or grab a generic conexant for ~15
[02:01] <House_> how do i setup a sftp server on ubuntu?
[02:01] <gnomefreak> fasdfasdf: try the mailing lists than  there are a few ways like translation, bugs, uploads with more ways to come(that they are working on) but its offtopic for here please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic if #launchpad doesnt anwer
[02:01] <pauliukas> Hello everybody
[02:01] <brian98> and lose the headache tablets :)
[02:01] <lupine_85> house: install ssh
[02:01] <tuxtheslacker> realplayer: Depends: xlibs but it is not installable can someone please help me fix that?
[02:01] <pauliukas> What's the easiest way to get Windows Media Player playing in a web browser?
[02:01] <lupine_85> the sshd daemon deals with sftp
[02:01] <bean-oh> House_, ssh is enabled by default
[02:01] <gnomefreak> pauliukas: install windows
[02:01] <lupine_85> make sure you know all about security first, though
[02:01] <tuxtheslacker> pauliukas, with xine.
[02:01] <tuxtheslacker> realplayer: Depends: xlibs but it is not installable can someone please help me fix that?
[02:01] <tuxtheslacker> sorry, didn't mean to send that again.
[02:01] <House_> ok so i can sftp in? just by using the ip?
[02:01] <brian98> gnomefreak: lol
[02:01] <lupine_85> bean-oh: I doubt the ssh server comes installed and enabled by default
[02:01] <pauliukas> Hmmm
[02:01] <Zorlac> badblocks....
[02:01] <pauliukas> I have mplayer installed.
[02:01] <Zorlac> So uh, bad blocks are bad =[
[02:02] <pauliukas> Will xine and it collapse?
[02:02] <linuchsan> House:don't
[02:02] <brian98> pauliukas: sudo apt-get install vlc
[02:02] <bean-oh> lupine_85, actually, on second thought, you're right. ssh client yes, sshd is not. my mistake.
[02:02] <fasdfasdf> gnomefreak: i just wanted to know how to get karma with support,addingt comments does not seem to be enough
[02:02] <pauliukas> brian98: But it only works for CERTAIN WMV files.
[02:02] <tuxtheslacker> realplayer: Depends: xlibs but it is not installable can someone please help me fix that?
[02:02] <lupine_85> OpenSUSE does that
[02:02] <gnomefreak> pauliukas: there is no windows media player for linux there is mplayer there are a few like realplayer is more like wmp than anything
[02:02] <pauliukas> I have VLC on my win and mac computers. And I know most don't play
[02:02] <lupine_85> primary reason I stopped using it
[02:02] <lupine_85> (well, that and YaST!)
[02:02] <gnomefreak> fasdfasdf: it adds it the next day
[02:02] <Buck> how long does it take for shipit orders to come to sydney
[02:02] <fasdfasdf> gnomefreak: i know
[02:02] <lupine_85> ~6 weeks I think
[02:02] <gnomefreak> fasdfasdf: karma comes with work ther eis no easy way to get it
[02:02] <brian98> I haven't had a prob with VLC playing any mms content at all...
[02:03] <treedreamer> hello,everyone ,today when i boot up my computer ,i get the following confusing messages: there are differences between the boot section and its backup  not automatically fix this ...
[02:03] <pauliukas> brian98: Does it play in a browser window?
[02:03] <House_> keeps tellin me connection refused when i try to sftp to the boxes ip
[02:03] <jester45> does anyone know if a yahoo.com email can be used in tunderbird
[02:03] <lupine_85> jester45: does it have POP3/IMAP access ?
[02:03] <gnomefreak> jester45: i do believe so but not real sure
[02:03] <fasdfasdf> gnomefreak: i worked on support  yesterday and the day before yesterday,does one have to mark the request as answerd so that i get karma?
[02:03] <jester45> i dont know
[02:04] <jester45> doesnt say anything about it
[02:04] <treedreamer> has  everyone ever run into that?
[02:04] <gnomefreak> lupine_85: its on yahoos end that is a worry
[02:04] <Zorlac> jester45: i THINK yahoo mail may have pop access
[02:04] <tuxtheslacker> realplayer: Depends: xlibs but it is not installable can someone please help me fix that? I'm sorry... last time I promise.
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> jester45: yes the $10 a year pop accounts can.
[02:04] <jester45> :(
[02:04] <lupine_85> !fetchyahoo
[02:04] <ubotu> fetchyahoo: Retrieve mail from Yahoo!'s webmail service. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.10.0-1 (dapper), package size 37 kB, installed size 176 kB
[02:04] <jester45> i want free
[02:04] <gnomefreak> fasdfasdf: every comment you make on LP bugs wil give you karma
[02:04] <lupine_85> there you go
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> But if I remember I had to change a port setting, for the xp version anyhow
[02:04] <jester45> Jack_Sparrow: do you know where to get a free pop
[02:04] <fasdfasdf> gnomefreak: im talking about support reqeusts not bugs
[02:04] <gnomefreak> fasdfasdf: to continue this topic please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:05] <House_> so umm how do i know if the sftp server is up?
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> jester45: just google for one, they were all over..
[02:05] <lupine_85> House_: netstat -a |grep ssh
[02:05] <lupine_85> you should get a line like..
[02:05] <oMiC> hi
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> jester45: It was worth $10 a year for the extra features and no ads
[02:05] <jester45> i want to find one with like 3gb of storeage like gmail
[02:05] <liquidten2> pauliukas: install both mplayer and mplayerplug-in(perhaps called mplayer-mozilla or something) OR install totem-xine(which should come with the plugin by default, if not there may be a totem-mozilla)
[02:06] <oMiC> can anyone help on how to install jdk 5 ?
[02:06] <Dutchy> lupine_85: i think ill need your help yet again... the firmware readme ( http://bughost.org/ipw3945/ucode/README.ipw3945-ucode ) tells me i need hotplug but i dont think i have that... at least its not in synaptic...
[02:06] <brian98> pauliukas: google http://www.google.ie/search?sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGGL,GGGL:2006-31,GGGL:en&q=vlc+firefox+plugin+ubuntu
[02:06] <lupine_85> tcp6       0      0 *:ssh                   *:*                     LISTEN
[02:06] <mcphail> jester45: just run your own mailserver
[02:06] <gnomefreak> oMiC: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[02:06] <Flannel> !tell oMiC about java
[02:06] <House_> lupine: gives some output... what should I be looking for?
[02:06] <pauliukas> liquidten2: I did these commands for the mplayer.
[02:06] <zax1> why oh way did i ever switch from windows........
[02:06] <pauliukas> The problem with it is that it won't do it full screen
[02:06] <CromagDK> !tell CromagDK about java
[02:06] <lupine_85> Dutchy: hotplug is deprecated (i.e. no longer used). I think ubuntu uses coldplug now, which is probably backward-compatible... just try doing what it tells you to anyway
[02:07] <bruenig> zaxl, because linux is better?
[02:07] <oMiC> ok and how i can import that to eclipse where does it put the files i mean ?
[02:07] <zax1> nah...i thought it was , but it isnt
[02:07] <lupine_85> House_: something like tcp6       0      0 *:ssh                   *:*                     LISTEN
[02:07] <brian98> zaxl: still got your CD's, off you go....
[02:07] <lupine_85> the "LISTEN" is the important bit
[02:07] <Kirby904> question, whenever i type something in command box it asks for password
[02:07] <Kirby904> what is that
[02:07] <overridex> zax1: adios!
[02:07] <lupine_85> yours will probably be "tcp" rather than tcp6
[02:07] <Dutchy> lupine_85: it doesnt work... ill try replacing coldplug by hotplug, if that doesnt work ill check back here again
[02:07] <Zorlac> "fdisk /dev/hda" "Unable to read /dev/hda"
[02:07] <liquidten2> zax1: Use windows then.  Not everybody is smart enough to use *nix, windows is still a viable solution for them.
[02:07] <Farrier> Question: which protocol is better, ftp:// or http:// for apt-get sources? My guess is FTP as the lighter protocol, but am I right?
[02:07] <chuckyp> Zorlac: fdisk -l
[02:08] <chuckyp> zax1: what are you trying to do?
[02:08] <House_> unix 2  [ACC]   STREAM LISTENING 25463 /tmp/ssh-lGxlWX8133/agent.8133
[02:08] <House_> thats my output
[02:08] <Kirby904> question, whenever i type something in command box it asks for password.... what password is it asking for
[02:08] <Zorlac> chuckyp: do anything to my drive, like write to it.
[02:08] <brian98> kirby904: your password for your username probably
[02:08] <lupine_85>  Dutchy: try putting the file in /lib/firmware/`uname -r` as well as /lib/firmware
[02:08] <Farrier> Kirby904: Your password that you use to log into the box, normally.
[02:08] <overridex> Kirby904: probably the root pass
[02:08] <Kirby904> i try it and it says auth fail sorry
[02:08] <lupine_85> House: that's not it
[02:08] <zax1> experiment with audiance reactions to criticism or implied inadiquacy of their favorite #os
[02:09] <Kirby904> ...
[02:09] <lupine_85> Zorlac: sudo
[02:09] <chuckyp> Zorlac: okay whats your setup or your goal here sorry I just got here I saw you had an error with fdisk if you type fdisk -l it will list the partittions
[02:09] <Zorlac> chuckyp: It doesn't read hda right, says ingoring extra data in partition table 5 and invalid flag 0x0002 of partition ntable 5
[02:09] <House_> lupine: i havent done anything, just booted the live cd... so how do i get ssh runnin?
[02:09] <bruenig> zaxl, what problem did you have with linux?
[02:09] <krazykit> hell.
[02:09] <Zorlac> chuckyp: i'm trying to just wipe the entire drive and start fresh
[02:09] <Kirby904> wtf
[02:09] <chuckyp> Zorlac: well useual hda5 is swap partition unless you have some wierd multi-boot setup
[02:09] <zax1> mainly driver support
[02:09] <krazykit> ati-drivers are not playing nice with my fun new kernel.
[02:09] <Kirby904> u type in my pass and it doesnt work
[02:09] <liquidten2> zax1: Ubuntu is not my favorite OS ;)
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker>    1.
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker>       The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker>    2.
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker>         realplayer: Depends: xlibs but it is not installable
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker>    3.
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker>       E: Broken packages  HELP
[02:09] <Kirby904> i press enter = auth fail
[02:09] <chuckyp> Zorlac: are you installing ubuntu or you already have it installed
[02:09] <tuxtheslacker> sorry....
[02:09] <lupine_85> House_: on the live CD, you need to install the package openssh-server
[02:09] <gnomefreak> oMiC: is there a reason you pm'ed me. something you need that you cant ask in channel
[02:09] <Zorlac> chuckyp: originaly hda5 was a 100gb NTFS parttion on a 120 gb drive.
[02:09] <pauliukas> Hey guys.... How can I make full screen with the totem fullscreen plugin?
[02:10] <oMiC> gnomefreak: ok sorry about that , do you know where it places the files ?
[02:10] <Kirby904> OHHHHH nvm
[02:10] <chuckyp> Zorlac: okay how are you in nix now booting to it?
[02:10] <zptao> anyone know where i can find the util for smart?
[02:10] <chuckyp> Zorlac: or you are trying to install to it?
[02:10] <Kirby904> the su command is su (username)
[02:10] <Kirby904> lol didnt know
[02:10] <gnomefreak> oMiC: locate java ;)
[02:10] <Zorlac> chuckyp: i can't install ubutnu, i'm on the disk though.
[02:10] <Zorlac> chuckyp: i tried to install ubuntu unto /dev/hda telling it to just erase the drive, and it failed writing the parition.
[02:11] <bruenig> pauliukas, not sure of the fullscreen plugin you talk of but generally just pressing f will make it full screen
[02:11] <lupine_85> Kirby904: technically su [username]  :). defaults to root
[02:11] <Kirby904> oh well cya guys brb later
[02:11] <liquidten2> pauliukas: I do not thing totem plugin supports fullscreen.  I *know* that mplayerplug-in does though.
[02:11] <Kirby904> yea i know lol
[02:11] <chuckyp> Zorlac: hrm.... that should definately work unless the drive is bad. Try typing sudo fdisk -l to list the partitions
[02:11] <bruenig> oh he is talking of plugin
[02:11] <bruenig> nevermind
[02:11] <pauliukas> bruenig: Nope. F doesn't do anything
[02:11] <Kirby904> i needa to be on root so i could install Java
[02:11] <Kirby904> ...
[02:11] <oMiC> gnomefreak: are you sure this is the package for JDK 5 ?
[02:11] <pauliukas> Golly golly golly
[02:11] <tuxtheslacker>    1.
[02:11] <tuxtheslacker>       The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:11] <tuxtheslacker>    2.
[02:11] <tuxtheslacker>         realplayer: Depends: xlibs but it is not installable
[02:11] <tuxtheslacker>    3.
[02:11] <tuxtheslacker>       E: Broken packages  HELP PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!
[02:11] <Kirby904> for firefox
[02:11] <Kirby904> i cya guys
[02:11] <pauliukas> Why can't they make something that works out of the box?
[02:11] <gnomefreak> oMiC: yes
[02:11] <Zorlac> chuckyp: i did list the partitions
[02:11] <Flannel> tuxtheslacker: dont paste here, again.
[02:11] <chuckyp> Zorlac: then see ifyou have gparted or qparted some sort of graphical partitioning tool would be easier to clean it etc...
[02:11] <oMiC> ok thnx
[02:11] <Flyoc> how do I find my chipset ?
[02:12] <Zorlac> chuckyp: it gives me an error when trying to read the partitons.
[02:12] <gnomefreak> Flyoc: lspci?
[02:12] <chuckyp> Flyoc: chipset of what?
[02:12] <pauliukas> Flyoc: lspci
[02:12] <tuxtheslacker> sorry, I just REALLY need help.
[02:12] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: dont paste in here again use pastebin
[02:12] <tuxtheslacker> my girlfriend is going to kick my ass if I don't get htis thing wokring.
[02:12] <Flyoc> chipset I have to select under the AGP setting in kernel config
[02:12] <chuckyp> ubotu: tell tuxtheslacker about paste
[02:12] <bruenig> pauliukas, why not just use mplayer plugin
[02:12] <lupine_85> mplayer can play realplayer files
[02:12] <pauliukas> bruenig: It couldn't do fullscreen
[02:12] <lupine_85> oops, snap
[02:12] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: im going to ban you if you dont stop pasting and you dont watch your language
[02:12] <tuxtheslacker> mplayer has the realplway plugins?
[02:12] <pauliukas> I had it before you guys reocmmended xine
[02:12] <lupine_85> or helixplayer?
[02:12] <tuxtheslacker> I'm sorry gnomefreak
[02:12] <bruenig> pauliukas, mplayer plugin can easy, just hit f
[02:12] <morbid88> Hi... uh, is anyone available to help me out? I'm looking for help with wireless networking.
[02:13] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: use realplayer
[02:13] <linuchsan> tuxtheslacker:lucky you
[02:13] <lupine_85> morbid88: what sort of help? :)
[02:13] <bruenig> I have never used the totem plugin but I am certain of the mplayer's ability to go full screen
[02:13] <gnomefreak> !realplayer > tuxtheslacker
[02:13] <chuckyp> ubotu: !tell morbid88 about ask
[02:13] <brian98>  tuxtheslacker: sudo apt-get install realplay
[02:13] <chuckyp> !tell morbid88 about ask
[02:13] <chuckyp> doesn't that work anymore wth?
[02:13] <seurimas> greetz all
[02:13] <lupine_85> bruenig: as long as you have the right video engine set up
[02:13] <gnomefreak> brian98: totem and mplayer both go full screen
[02:13] <gnomefreak> bruenig:  not brian98
[02:13] <brian98> :)
[02:14] <gnomefreak> sorry brian98
[02:14] <morbid88> chuckyp, I'll see if I can read the forum instructions on the web.
[02:14] <brian98> it's ok, good to know ;)
[02:14] <chuckyp> morbid88: what are you trying to do?
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !easysource > Jack_sparrow
[02:14] <morbid88> I'm trying to set up wireless networking on a laptop, and it's been giving me hell all week,
[02:14] <liquidten2> pauliukas: the mplaye rplugin DOES do fullscreen.  I am entirely certain, as I am running it now in fullscreen.
[02:14] <pauliukas> YAY!
[02:14] <chuckyp> morbid88: what type of wifi card?
[02:14] <lupine_85> morbid88: do you know what chipset it is?
[02:14] <pauliukas> Yeah. Mplayer did it
[02:15] <morbid88> intel pro 3945. I've read there's a lot of issues with it, and I tried a script from Wheelspin?
[02:15] <morbid88> I'm new to linux... but not totally lost.
[02:15] <brian98> morbid88: have you tried ndiswrapper
[02:15] <lupine_85> heh, Dutchy is trying that as well
[02:15] <lupine_85> ndiswrapper didn't work for him/her
[02:15] <Zorlac> chuckyp: gparted doesn't see any partitions on the drive, is there any way to check the entire drive for failures?
[02:15] <morbid88> no, I couldn't get past installing the ieee80211
[02:16] <zparta> is there any good howto to setup xgl and compiz(-quinnstorm) ?
[02:16] <lupine_85> have you tried getting the already-present driver working?
[02:16] <brian98> it's the only way I could get wireless support running on a good few installs.... Sooner the better the vendors release the specs
[02:16] <chuckyp> Zorlac: I'm sure there is but I don't remember the command atm.....   Possibly try creating a partition then on it.
[02:16] <morbid88> The networking manager doesn't see my card, but the device manager does.
[02:16] <Dutchy> morbid88: i think there's a ieee80211 in ubuntu by default... not the newest version but i dont think it matters
[02:16] <chuckyp> Zorlac: I know there is definately a commmand to check the disk.  try something along the lines of apropos check disk
[02:16] <lupine_85> morbid88: http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/ - the driver is already compiled and in the kernel, but the firmware/microcode isn't
[02:16] <Zorlac> chuckyp: i can't create a partiton becuase it says there is no disklabel type, and i cannot write a disklabel type.
[02:17] <morbid88> I couldn't find the firmware directory to put it in.
[02:17] <chuckyp> Zorlac: hrm... kind of catch 22 what type of drive is this ide sata? scsi?
[02:17] <lupine_85> Zorlac: how about option o ?
[02:17] <Zorlac> chuckyp: regular IDE ata
[02:17] <lupine_85> I assume you've checked permissions, and are running as root etc.
[02:17] <chuckyp> morbid88: did you try searching the forums for your card?
[02:17] <morbid88> I've got the files from ipw3945 as well.
[02:17] <morbid88> Oh, yes. There's an 18 page thread on it.
[02:18] <Zorlac> lupine_85: i am running root
[02:18] <lupine_85> and they're in /lib/firmware and /lib/firmware/`uname -r` ?
[02:18] <chuckyp> Zorlac: hrm.. perhaps someone here knows the command to check a disk?
[02:18] <morbid88> They've all used Wheelspin's script to get it going, and it doesn't work for me.
[02:19] <pauliukas> Hey guys.
[02:19] <mypapitfx> hey!
[02:19] <pauliukas> The quality on mplayer is very bad. Very pixelized.
[02:19] <morbid88> I don't ave a /lib/firmware. Should I just mkdir it?
[02:19] <pauliukas> Anything that I could do?
[02:19] <lupine_85> morbid88: yes
[02:19] <liquidten2> pauliukas: Did you set it to use XV?
[02:19] <sethk> morbid88, won't help, though
[02:19] <pauliukas> How would I do that?
[02:19] <lupine_85> make sure it's world-readable (write and execute probably don't matter)
[02:19] <lupine_85> sethk: looks like the firmware is all that's missing
[02:19] <liquidten2> pauliukas: If you have an nvidia/ati card, have you installed the official drivers?
[02:20] <pauliukas> yeah
[02:20] <morbid88> seth, lupine: I do have the directory, my mistake.
[02:20] <sethk> lupine_85, indeed, but it isn't missing because the directory isn't there
[02:20] <lupine_85> i interpret it as the driver is loaded, but can't bring up the interface because it doesn't have the firmware
[02:20] <morbid88> it's got some kernel code in it.
[02:20] <jona_> Hey guys, How're u doing??? Am having some problems with my vfat partition, could any body helpme???
[02:20] <liquidten2> pauliukas: Does, "mplayer -vo xv /home/username/samplevideo.avi" produce higher quality videos?
[02:20] <fasdfasdf> !doesntwork
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[02:21] <Kirby904> =( problem problem... NEED HELP INSTALLING JAVA FOR 6.06
[02:21] <treedreamer> jona_:what problem?
[02:21] <CromagDK> Kirby904: here
[02:21] <w3rdn4>  #trillionaresclub
[02:21] <fasdfasdf> Kirby904: install automatix
[02:21] <Zorlac> Ah, i'll just use badblocks...
[02:21] <Kirby904> ?
[02:21] <CromagDK> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[02:21] <Kirby904> well
[02:21] <Kirby904> the problem is
[02:21] <jona_> OK, I have already mounted a vfat partition that I can see from WinXP and from Ubuntu
[02:21] <morbid88> chuckyp: do I just drop the ipw3945-ucode file into the firmware directory?
[02:21] <jona_> But...
[02:21] <bruenig> why would you have him use automatix for one thing?
[02:21] <Kirby904> i cant get on root
[02:21] <Zorlac> Is it possible to just low-level format my drive?
[02:21] <jona_> Every time when I restart my computer
[02:21] <CromagDK> Kirby904: sure you can..
[02:22] <CromagDK> sudo
[02:22] <Kirby904> o
[02:22] <CromagDK> and enter password
[02:22] <PM^> hello, I'm using a pentium D with dual cor machine. what kernel should I install ? I found some things online saying that a -xeon kernel should be used, but i cannot fund it with aptitude. What do you suggest I install?
[02:22] <Kirby904> oh ok
[02:22] <CromagDK> sudo command
[02:22] <jona_> i have to mount again and again the partition
[02:22] <chuckyp> sry had to dl a new irc client
[02:22] <CromagDK> ;)
[02:22] <Kirby904> =) well, ok
[02:22] <CromagDK> so: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[02:22] <chuckyp> chatzilla kept crashing
[02:22] <lupine_85> morbid88, chuckyb: hrm. In the 2.6.15-26-386 kernel, the default version of ieee80211 seems to be 1.1.7 (we need 1.1.11)
[02:22] <treedreamer> jona_: try ---sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[02:22] <lupine_85> HOWEVER
[02:22] <liquidten2> PM^: A 686 kernel will do.
[02:22] <Zorlac> haha chuckyp
[02:22] <pauliukas> liquidten2: I'm using it from the browser. So I can't do commandline
[02:23] <lupine_85> there is/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/net/ieee80211_1_1_13
[02:23] <gepatino> PM^: try the i686 kernel, it supports smp
[02:23] <jona_> Ok, let my try.....
[02:23] <treedreamer> jona_:first you should backup the /ect/fstab
[02:23] <chuckyp> Zorlac: yeah i'm curently in windows so I downloaded a irssi windows binary working pretty well
[02:23] <Kirby904> umm couldnt find package
[02:23] <Kirby904> one sec
[02:23] <tuxtheslacker> sudo apt-get install realplayer breaks.
[02:23] <jona_> On my home???
[02:23] <tuxtheslacker> it tells me it can't find xlibs.
[02:23] <CromagDK> Kirby904: sudo apt-get update
[02:23] <treedreamer> sudo mv /etc/fstab /etc/fstab_back
[02:23] <CromagDK> and
[02:23] <CromagDK> butw
[02:23] <liquidten2> pauliukas: Close your browser and add this to your ~/.mplayer/mplayerplug-in.conf
[02:23] <liquidten2> pauliukas: "vo=xv"
[02:23] <CromagDK> Kirby904: make sources.list use multiverse to
[02:24] <Dutchy> bah, errors trying to load the driver now :o
[02:24] <liquidten2> pauliukas: without the quotes of course
[02:24] <CromagDK> sudo gkedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:24] <Zorlac> chuckyp: know how to low-level format the hd?
[02:24] <chuckyp> Zorlac: fsck /dev/hda will check the disk
[02:24] <lupine_85>  morbid88, Dutchy: I think that you need to copy in the firmware to /lib/firmware and /lib/firmware/`uname -r`, then rmmod the current instance of ipw3945 as well as the ieee80211 module
[02:24] <Kirby904> E: Invalid operation sun-java5-jre
[02:24] <Zorlac> rgr
[02:24] <Kirby904> ?
[02:24] <Dutchy> i did the firmware part
[02:24] <zparta> is there any good howto to setup xgl and compiz(-quinnstorm) ?
[02:24] <CromagDK> Kirby904: sudo gkedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:24] <chuckyp> Zorlac: err fsck will check partitions
[02:25] <Kirby904> ok
[02:25] <jona_> Treedreamer are u in there???
[02:25] <lupine_85> then manually insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/net/ieee80211_1_1_13/ieee80211_1_1_13.ko
[02:25] <Zorlac> oh
[02:25] <morbid88> lupine: rmmod?
[02:25] <chuckyp> Zorlac: i.e. fsck /dev/hda1
[02:25] <lupine_85> terminal command - sudo rmmod will take a module out of the kernel
[02:25] <Zorlac> chuckyp: too bad there is ONLY /dev/hda
[02:25] <Kirby904> sudo: gkedit: command not found
[02:25] <Kirby904> omg one sec
[02:25] <Kirby904> all i needa know how to do is
[02:25] <Kirby904> make a folder inside /usr
[02:25] <Kirby904> whats the command to make folders
[02:25] <CromagDK> mkdir
[02:25] <morbid88> ah.
[02:25] <Kirby904> OHHH
[02:25] <liquidten2> mkdir /usr/FOLDERNAME
[02:25] <Dutchy> and a similar insmod for ipw3945.ko i guess?
[02:26] <morbid88> and insmod will do the opposite.
[02:26] <Kirby904> i thought it was makdir the whole time
[02:26] <Kirby904> lol
[02:26] <Kirby904> sorry
[02:26] <lupine_85> once you've done insmod as above, try sudo modprobe ipw3945 and see if you get an interface
[02:26] <CromagDK> ah ;)
[02:26] <Kirby904> for my stupid mistakes
[02:26] <pauliukas> Are there any special steps to undertake installing ATi Drivers?
[02:26] <morbid88> lupine: thanks, let me see if I've got it.
[02:26] <chuckyp> Zorlac: what do you want to do now write 0's to the drive?
[02:26] <pauliukas> I followed their usual installed. And did aticonfig --initial
[02:26] <CromagDK> Kirby904: but anyways dude, edit sources.list and add multiverse to archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[02:26] <dionys> brian98, seems that dri lets it crash
[02:26] <CromagDK> that line
[02:26] <lupine_85> two barriers, then: the default ieee80211 isn't a high enough version, and the firmware needs to be in those two directories
[02:26] <CromagDK> then sudo apt-get update
[02:26] <linuchsan> Zorlac:what does fdisk -l say?
[02:27] <Kirby904> well gkedit is not a command sudo: gkedit: command not found
[02:27] <CromagDK> and sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[02:27] <chuckyp> Zorlac: that would be something like dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=1M
[02:27] <Zorlac> linuchsan: it says there is extra data on hda5 and gives me some error like 0x0002
[02:27] <liquidten2> gedit is the proper command
[02:27] <Zorlac> chuckyp: funny enough i already run that.
[02:27] <chuckyp> Zorlac: that will definately destroy all data
[02:27] <CromagDK> Kirby904: then sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:27] <Kirby904> oh ok
[02:27] <lupine_85> (I'm working on http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/wlan-magick)
[02:27] <CromagDK> liquidten2: how to save then ?
[02:27] <CromagDK> when not root
[02:27] <chuckyp> pulsradio rocks.
[02:27] <liquidten2> "sudo gedit"
[02:27] <Kirby904> now what line do i change
[02:27] <liquidten2> sorry
[02:27] <CromagDK> doh, my bah
[02:28] <CromagDK> bad
[02:28] <UKMatt> !repository
[02:28] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:28] <lupine_85> gksudo gedit
[02:28] <lupine_85> :D
[02:28] <Dutchy> insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/net/ieee80211_1_1_13/ieee80211_1_1_13.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module
[02:28] <CromagDK> ye
[02:28] <dionys> guys can fglrx work without dri ?