[10:58] <asdfaaaa> kll: I have formated (Xubuntu) two times because the AMD GPU drivers crashed after reboot, I hope that I do not need to format the third time..
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  but ive not seen a single example of fusefat being used on a DEVICE. its always on a file..
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  that may be the core issue here.
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> only root has full access to that device
[10:59] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: yea I understand what you mean... any ideas?
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  do you have a gui at all?
[10:59] <k1l> asdfaaaa: you should look out what error happend and not just plain reformat.
[10:59] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: everythijng must be done from CLI
[11:00] <k1l> asdfaaaa: make sure the kernel headers are installed to let the video driver build properly
[11:00] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: I'm writing bash scripts so everything must be done from consol
[11:00] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[11:00] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, I did sudo mount -o remount,fmask=027 /media/bharath/E8DC1A1EDC19E818/, but doen't work
[11:00] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, hey hey hey!   Blue is here!  NOW it's a party!
[11:00] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  so you cant even run ntfs-config to enbable the  system to let users have full access to ntfs/vfat? that would be an eaier way
[11:01] <asdfaaaa> kll: Will try, will atleast follow the YT guide ActionParsnip sent
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  a gui right NOW to just run that tool is what im asking about
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> not a gui later
[11:01] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: partitions will always be Fat16/32..  is this a problem for ntfs-3g ?
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> ntfs-config handles them both
[11:01] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: ok
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> it has check box's to allow users full access. and it tweaqks the udisks, or udev. or whatever it is now a days..
[11:02] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett, think I'll retreat to a corner with my morning coffee :)
[11:02] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: ok Ill see if ntfs-config helps me
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> then i recall theres some tool other then mount  that will use that method to mount things
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> pdisk? i rarely need the tool
[11:02] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  you did check askubuntu.com about this? theres most likely several ways it could be done
[11:03] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: I prefered your consulting :p anyways im going to try ntfs-config now and see how it can help me
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> my sdcard is always /dev/mmcblk* ;)   so that would make it eaasier to do here.
[11:03] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, pdsk?
[11:03] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: in my case it always changes and I only know the label at runtime
[11:03] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  so that label is always the same?
[11:04] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: no , it changes
[11:05] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: I don't see how to tell ntfs-config to allow non root users to mount  fat partition though
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> theres a check box.
[11:05] <Dr_Willis> it applies to both
[11:06] <bulletxt> it says "allow to read/write to external devices"
[11:06] <bulletxt> it does not say anything else though
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> then you use the nautilus/cli/whatever tool that i cant rember to mount them
[11:06] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: from cli whats the command then?  mount -L $label /$folder ?
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> its not mount.. its some OTHER command
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> might be at one of the following.
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs-3g
[11:08] <bulletxt> ntfs-3g supports fat?
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> they use the same tools
[11:08] <Dr_Willis> ]sand options
[11:08] <CatKiller> bulletxt: ntfs-3g supports ntfs
[11:09] <bulletxt> my partitions will always be fat16/32 so I dont' see how ntfs-3g can help me
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> because the tools are all using the same subsystem.
[11:09] <Dr_Willis> ntfs/vfat are closely releated
[11:10] <CatKiller> Dr_Willis: Are you sure about that? how are they closely related?
[11:10] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, can you please help me , how can I make use of hard drive to run executables
[11:10] <tbharath> ?
[11:10] <CatKiller> Dr_Willis: ext2/3/4 are closely related, in fact ext2 can even mount ext3 and 4 partitions
[11:10] <Dr_Willis> tbharath:  askubuntu.com has sevarl questions/answers on mounting ntfs/vfat with executable bit set on EVERY file.
[11:11] <Nosophorus> how do i install totem.thumbnailer in Ubuntu 12.04?
[11:11] <CatKiller> bulletxt: So when you mount using ntfs-3g you use "FUSE", which is "File System in User Space". One advantage of mounting it in userspace is that you can mount it without being root
[11:11] <Nosophorus> i mistakenly deleted it
[11:11] <CatKiller> bulletxt: FAT32 uses a linux in kernel driver and a "mount" call
[11:11] <bulletxt> CatKiller: but I need to mount fat16/32
[11:12] <bulletxt> yea
[11:12] <Sheldoraaaa> !
[11:12] <bulletxt> CatKiller:  thats why I was looking at fusefat
[11:12] <CatKiller> So you want to mount something not as root right?
[11:12] <bulletxt> CatKiller: yes mount fat as non root
[11:12] <bulletxt> CatKiller:  I cant force anything in fstab as device will always be different (and even label)
[11:12] <Dr_Willis> !info pmount
[11:13] <Nosophorus> how do i install totem.thumbnailer in Ubuntu 12.04?
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> bingo
[11:13] <CatKiller> here you go
[11:13] <kostkon> !find thumbnailer
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  check out pmount
[11:13] <bulletxt> should I go after pmount ? ok
[11:13] <bulletxt> let me see
[11:13] <Nosophorus> !find thumbnailer
[11:13] <Dr_Willis> ]http://stackoverflow.com/questions/483460/how-to-mount-from-command-line-like-the-nautilus-does
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> gvfs-mount also may be handy
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> then theres 'udisks'
[11:14] <Dubacco> i am looking for a text browser
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> Dubacco:  theres like 3 in the repos
[11:15] <CatKiller> Dubacco: lynx?
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> linkx, lynx, and w3m
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> links2 even ;)
[11:16] <jack---> Dr_Willis, don't forget emacs :P
[11:16] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis:  pmount -r  /dev/disk/by-label/P$label   /media/folder
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> i try hard to forget emacs
[11:16] <bulletxt> that worked!  how to unmount now...
[11:16] <jack---> heh
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  ive never used the commands...
[11:16] <buleeen> i installed lubuntu for someone (an ex-windows user) who is unhappy with the fact i left him without a guide on how to use it. i need to email him something of the kind in pdf form. anything that already exists?
[11:16] <bulletxt> pumount
[11:17] <bulletxt> lol
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  check the man pages perhaps? :) that url i posted mentioned sevarl tools.. some of those may be obsolete
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  the lxde homepage perhaps?
[11:17] <cfhowlett> !manual|buleeen,
[11:17] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: pumount to unmount
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> if he cant fitgure out  the basics of lxde.. well..  its so close to the classic windows setup its scary
[11:17] <cfhowlett> buleeen, not sure if there's a lubuntu equivalent ...
[11:17] <jack---> Dr_Willis: SEVERAL
[11:18] <buleeen> is there one for lubuntu?
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> we are luckyu to have an official ubuntu manual. ;)
[11:18] <Dr_Willis> its so .. well.. minimal in so many ways its scary
[11:19] <Dr_Willis> wanting docs on how to use LXDE is one thing.. one on how to use Linux and the shell and stuff.. is another toally differnt thing
[11:20] <bulletxt> Dr_Willis: ok I confirm pmount/ pumount are the solutions to my problem... thanks!
[11:20] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  that command mey be becoming obsolete. id check that guide i posted just in case
[11:21] <bulletxt> ok
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> bulletxt:  and if you had NOT used that ntfs-config tool to allow users full access. then pmount may or may not have worked..
[11:21] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, really I can't fine one, regarding that
[11:22] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, *find
[11:23] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, please help me, is it possible to resize?
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> tbharath:  yes. - use gparted
[11:23] <schwoop> When setting disk quotas I can but a value for blocks into the quota file. How many bytes is a block?
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> and theres several hits on askubuntu on ' ntfs file executable'
[11:24] <Dr_Willis> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu%20ntfs%20file%20executable&t=raspberrypi
[11:25] <Nosophorus> how do i install totem.thumbnailer in Ubuntu 12.04?
[11:25] <Nosophorus> i mistakenly deleted it
[11:27] <kawkaw> hello, best dist for an asus eepc?
[11:27] <ezra-s> Nosophorus, "apt-cache search totem" find the appropiate package and install it
[11:28] <ezra-s> kawkaw, ubuntu of course
[11:28] <kawkaw> ofcourse but what version`?
[11:28] <ezra-s> any
[11:28] <ezra-s> it really depends on kernel
[11:28] <ezra-s> not distro version
[11:28] <buleeen> thanxx
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> kawkaw: there is no single best
[11:29] <kostkon> !find totem-video-thumbnailer
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> kawkaw: each distro has advantages and disadvantages
[11:29] <ezra-s> ActionParsnip, there is, here is ubuntu, in debian channel is debian, in arch channel is arch, and so on :P
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> ezra-s: I'd go for tinycore or puppy but Im a bit more versed in Linux than many
[11:30] <kostkon> Nosophorus, locate totem-video-thumbnailer
[11:30] <kawkaw> k
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> !find totem-video-thumbnailer
[11:30] <ezra-s> ActionParsnip, you have to be in their respective channels to promote those choices :P
[11:30] <kostkon> Nosophorus, http://askubuntu.com/a/115855/1651
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> kawkaw:  xubuntu or lubuntu should work fine on a netbook
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> ezra-s: its not always the 'best' choice though, just because you are in a channel should not sway choices
[11:31] <Dr_Willis> xubuntu works very well on my eee netbook.
[11:31] <ezra-s> ActionParsnip, I know, but it is the same as "which distro is best for..." question, so best reply is to look at the #channel you are in and reply
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> we all know Minix is best ;P
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> ezra-s: i tend to ignore channel, and advise on needs. There were no needs specified so there is no best
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: ha
[11:32] <home555> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FsKFaSip1g
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> ezra-s: ask a silly question, an all that6
[11:32] <Nosophorus> kostkon: totem-video-thumbnailer is installed in my machine, it's in /usr/bin/
[11:33] <ezra-s> ActionParsnip, bahhhm you're too serious ;P
[11:33] <kostkon> Nosophorus, but you aren't getting any thumbnails?
[11:34] <Nosophorus> kostkon: yep, i'm not getting any thumbnails here
[11:34] <kostkon> Nosophorus, try clearing the thumbnail cache, http://askubuntu.com/a/2609/1651  logout even after that if you want
[11:36] <Nosophorus> kostkon: ffmpegthumbnailer creates thumbnails for video files, but i don't get any thumbnails for mp3 files
[11:37] <kostkon> Nosophorus, you mean cover art?
[11:38] <Nosophorus> kostkon: yes
[11:38] <Nosophorus> totem.thumbnailer was creating them
[11:38] <Nosophorus> but i mistakenly deleted it
[11:39] <kostkon> Nosophorus, then recreate it, i gave you the answer describing how to do it
[11:40] <kenn_> hi Ubunturs
[11:40] <kostkon> Nosophorus, "I then made a change in /usr/share/thumbnailers/totem.thumbnailer... etc"
[11:40] <kenn_> i can not set sleep time
[11:41] <Nosophorus> kostkon: i'll try that
[11:41] <kostkon> Nosophorus, create the file /usr/share/thumbnailers/totem.thumbnailer and put the three lines mentioned below
[11:41] <kenn_> it sleeps in 5 minutes whatever i set
[11:41] <kostkon> Nosophorus, e.g. sudo nano /usr/share/thumbnailers/totem.thumbnailer
[11:42] <Nosophorus> kostkon: yep, i'm doing that right now
[11:43] <kostkon> Nosophorus, also clear the cache if you haven't done it already and maybe logout and log back in
[11:44] <Nosophorus> kostkon: i'm affraid of doing that because i could lose some thumbnails i like and that were generated by totem.thumbnailer
[11:45] <kostkon> Nosophorus, ok then
[11:45] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, I got a command /dev/hda1  /mnt/windows  ntfs-3g  defaults,exec,fmask=000  0  0
[11:45] <Nosophorus> kostkon: thanks, dude!
[11:45] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, but when I tried mount /dev/sda4 I got
[11:45] <kostkon> Nosophorus, it worked?
[11:45] <Nosophorus> kostkon: it's working flawleslly!!
[11:45] <kostkon> Nosophorus, nice
[11:45] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, fuse: failed to access mountpoint /mnt/windows: No such file or directory
[11:46] <Nosophorus> kostkon: thank you very much! =]
[11:46] <kostkon> Nosophorus, :)
[11:48] <angs> I installed ubuntu via wubi on 20 GB space. Now, I need more space. how can I increase the memory space of ubuntu?
[11:48] <cfhowlett> angs, you do realize wubi is for tESTING not of long-term installation?
[11:49] <cfhowlett> angs, and 20 gigs should be more than adequate.  suggest you look into dual booting
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> tbharath:  the mount guides/wiki mention how the mountpoint MUST MUST exist befor you mount to it
[11:49] <Joeyjoeswe> Hi! I am completely new to ubuntu. Trying to install lighttpd at Ubuntu 9.10(I got an reason for using that old one), just getting msg like: "couldnt find  package lighttpd" Hope someone can give me a hint!
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> tbharath:  so make the directory
[11:49] <cfhowlett> JoeyJoeJo, end of life means no support here.  use a supported version and ask
[11:49] <Dr_Willis> tbharath:  and i doubt if hda1 is correct for your setup.  most likely its sda1
[11:49] <angs> cfhowlett, what can go wrong if I use wubi in the long term? I have been using wubi for 2 years already
[11:50] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, I changed to sda4
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> angs:  it can break on some trivial upgrade.. and basically its a dead project now
[11:50] <Dudytz> hi all! how the good way to mount two directories (eg. /var and /home) to the related directories in the same other partition? ... eg: sda1 is the root, /var and /home are directories mounted in the sda2 partition (sda2->/var and sda2->/home)
[11:51] <Dr_Willis> !eol | Joeyjoeswe
[11:51] <cfhowlett> angs, I'm not even going to go into the exhaustive list of what can go wrong.  the wubi developers have stated it's purpose is testing.  using it for something else , like long term installation , is inadvisable at best
[11:51] <tbharath> Dr_Willis, awesome, it works, thanks a lot
[11:53] <angs> chfhowlett, thanks for the info, I did not know it
[11:56] <cfhowlett> angs, no worries.  best of luck.
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> if you cant partion to use ubuntu. id say use virtualbox and put lubuntu in it :)
[11:56] <angs> thanks
[11:57] <vorlket> trying to automount ext hdd using 12.04 server, can you give me pointer to how to, thanks!
[11:58] <CatKiller> vorlket: fstab
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> !fstab | vorlket
[11:58] <Dr_Willis> Hmm,. did my script just print out a tinyurl? or was i the only one to see that?
[11:59] <CatKiller> Dr_Willis: nope
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> think it was just visibe to me. ;)(
[11:59] <vorlket> catKiler, Dr_Willis, ubottu: thanks!
[11:59] <Dr_Willis> weechat has severa tinyurl type scripts.. wasent sure if i was  spamming the channelo with them
[11:59] <CatKiller> :)
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> latest weechat has some kicking scripting features. ;P
[12:07] <Dr_Willis> Night all
[12:09] <jhutchins> About 60 seconds from power on to fully logged in with manual login on this old Dell GX280 with 1G RAM.
[12:22] <Hungary> Dr_Willis: Do you remember me? I was needing help with ethernet card drivers with installing ubuntu server yesterday
[12:23] <vusie> hi guys can ayone help me with a face recognition software for login...
[12:25] <vusie> anyone?
[12:26] <vusie> m in ubuntu 12.10
[12:26] <cfhowlett> vusie, if no one knows, no one speaks
[12:26] <vusie> cfhowlett: guess thats it
[12:27] <Hungary> Can someone help me to figure out why a driver error comes up when im installing ubuntu server 12.04
[12:28] <Hungary> Im getting a problem with the ethernet card driver during installation
[12:29] <aze_> hii
[12:30] <Sp88> hi
[12:30] <aze_> bigginer
[12:30] <aze_> ;)
[12:31] <rahull> How do I turn on wifi in ubuntu?
[12:31] <cfhowlett> !wifi
[12:31] <Hungary> !drivers
[12:31] <aze_> thnx
[12:35] <ccha> hello, there is a rsync process as defunct. I try to kill -9 this process, but it doesn't work
[12:35] <sdn3rd> whats the channel for saucy?
[12:35] <cfhowlett> !saucy|sdn3rd,
[12:35] <ccha> how can kill it ?
[12:36] <sdn3rd> thanks cfhowlett
[12:37] <sdn3rd> also, generic question, does anyone know of any centralized certificate management solution for linux?
[12:37] <sdn3rd> or any in development
[12:46] <kumbaya> My ubuntu machine is not feeling very well. I don't even know where to start explaining this. For an instance if I run apt-get -f install I get apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libapt-pkg.so.4.12:cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory.
[12:46] <kumbaya> I get these errors ALOT
[12:46] <kumbaya> Also, could not find platform independent libraries prefix
[12:46] <kumbaya> What is the way forward here?
[12:46] <monicat> ciao
[12:46] <monicat> !list
[12:49] <jmgk> hi
[12:49] <jmgk> :)
[12:50] <nn0101> kumbaya: reinstall the package that provides libapt-pkg.so.4.12
[12:50] <nn0101> hello
[12:50] <nn0101> kumbaya: ldd $(which apg-get)
[12:51] <kumbaya> nn0101: I did not quite understand your last message there. Am not that familiar
[12:52] <kumbaya> oh nn0101 it says not found
[12:52] <kumbaya> on some files here.
[12:52] <kumbaya> libapt-pkg.so* and libstdc++.so.6
[12:52] <nn0101> kumbaya: go to packages.ubuntu.com and download libapt-pkg4.12
[12:53] <kumbaya> only terminal access to its wget?
[12:53] <kumbaya> jeez, how can I see my machine architecture?
[12:53] <kumbaya> amd64 or i386?
[12:53] <jhutchins> kumbaya: You might be able to patch it back together, but it will probably be easier just to re-install.  Do you know how it got this way?  Is your disc failing?
[12:53] <ezra-s> kumbaya, "uname -a" will tell you all
[12:53] <jhutchins> kumbaya: uname -a
[12:53] <kumbaya> This is a server which we for some reason are responsible for.
[12:55] <kumbaya> so it's a deb file?
[12:55] <kumbaya> I cant use wget
[12:55] <kumbaya> error while loading shared libraries libidn.so.11
[12:55] <nn0101> once you get the pkg, dpkg -i
[12:56] <kumbaya> What could be causing all these issues?
[12:56] <kumbaya> it seem to have happened like that, bang.
[13:01] <nn0101> it doesn't happen 'like that'.
[13:01] <kumbaya> lol
[13:01] <kumbaya> sudo: fatal error, unable to load plugins
[13:01] <kumbaya> it's a virtual server so virtual disk.
[13:01] <kumbaya> Can I check the filesystem integrity?
[13:03] <kumbaya> cannot access /usr/lib/sudo:
[13:03] <kumbaya> is this system screwed?
[13:03] <nn0101> just reimage your system. it will save you more time.
[13:04] <nn0101> backup your valuable belongings <- goes without saying.
[13:04] <nn0101> (whatever that might be :)
[13:05] <nn0101> anyone used one of these suckers? http://www.megabuy.com.au/hp-712317-371-proliant-gen8-g1610t-microserver-p20378826.html
[13:15] <nn0101> seems to be good value for the money
[13:15]  * nn0101 wanders off.....
[13:18] <juniour> how list column name of a table plz help??
[13:18] <juniour> in sqlite3
[13:19] <juniour> anybody here have idea of sqlite3???
[13:20] <Pici> juniour: That really doesn't have anything to do with Ubuntu support. Check sqlite's documentation.
[13:21] <nn0101> juniour: .header on
[13:22] <juniour> nn0101 what this do??
[13:24] <juniour> nn0101 thanks bro got it
[13:24] <juniour> :)
[13:24] <nn0101> juniour: it shows table column whilst using sqlite cli tool
[13:25] <juniour> nn0101 yea i tried ,i got thanks
[13:25] <nn0101> np
[13:29] <Abbas-> guys, for someone who's used to windows and slightly to ubuntu
[13:29] <Abbas-> is KDE more user firendly or gnome?
[13:29] <Abbas-> i m getting backtrack iso and i have to choose one of the two
[13:30] <ikonia> Abbas-: 1.) backtrack is dead 2.) this channel doesn't do polls 3.) this channel doesn't support backtrack
[13:30] <ikonia> Abbas-: I'd suggest a LOT more research before you do things
[13:30] <BluesKaj_> !backtrack > Abbas-
[13:30] <krux> 4.all you can do in backtrack you can do in ubuntu :)
[13:30] <ikonia> BluesKaj_: I actually think that factoid needs updating
[13:31] <BluesKaj_> ikonia, like the OS :)
[13:31] <ikonia> BluesKaj_: I will deal with the factoid now
[13:31] <juniour> krux yeaa
[13:32] <fishcooker> how to check that there is device on ttyx?
[13:32] <fishcooker> i've serial device here
[13:33] <Abbas-> ikonia ;p
[13:33] <Abbas-> ppl still suggest backtrack for wifi research
[13:33] <theadmin> Abbas-: That doesn't matter, this channel doesn't support it.
[13:33] <Abbas-> hmm im just wondering which one out of KDE / GNOME is more user frienldy
[13:33] <Abbas-> less shell like stuff
[13:33] <ikonia> Abbas-: then they are fools
[13:33] <Abbas-> harsh ;p
[13:33] <theadmin> Abbas-: Uh. Both are pretty friendly if you ask me
[13:34] <ikonia> not at all, suggesting a dead distro is stupid
[13:34] <theadmin> Abbas-: But GNOME is ridiculously bloated nowadays so eh
[13:34] <Abbas-> you  typed like 12 wrods ;p
[13:34] <Abbas-> instead of telling me which ones easeir but k
[13:34] <ikonia> Abbas-: it's personal opinion, that's why you can't see "this one is easier" as what I find easier you may find harder
[13:35] <theadmin> Abbas-: You can find screenshots and other stuff on http://kde.org and http://gnome.org , see for yourself.
[13:40] <jhutchins> Abbas-: kde has traditionally offered more user customization and features.  With KDE4 they've gotten very complex and interconnected, with multiple servers running full time for things like metadata indexing and contact sharing between apps.
[13:40] <Enouk> lot's of nerds here I quess :P
[13:40] <jhutchins> Abbas-: Gnome has recently moved toward removing customization and features in favor of user simplicity.
[13:40] <neoshroom> I've followed directions here to log SFTP for Chrooted Users.  It used to work and I got both "sshd" and "internal-sftp" entries in the log.  However, now I only seem to get "sshd" entries (which is only login/logoff but not transfers).    Does anybody have this issue?
[13:41] <jhutchins> Abbas-: Many people have felt that the two main desktops were going way too far and becoming bloated.  They've turned to things like xfce, lxde, and forks of the big desktops like cinnamon.
[13:42] <Abbas-> ah
[13:42] <Abbas-> gud gud
[13:42] <Abbas-> i'll get it then
[13:42] <Abbas-> thx guys
[13:43] <Abbas-> ah
[13:45] <BluesKaj_> jhutchins, I tried cinnamon yesterday on different partition , but i was missing some important parts of the desktop like the panel . ii it's anything like gnome shell then I'd consider it as a fallback OS
[13:45] <theadmin> Welp... It's october, where's the traditional countdown on ubuntu.com? :D
[13:46] <tsongki> anyone please help. i had trouble connecting my external hard disk. Im using 13.04 here is the site http://paste.ubuntu.com/6192277/
[13:46] <theadmin> tsongki: Sounds like it's messed up
[13:47] <cson> tsongki: try fdisk?
[13:47] <cson> fisk /dev/sdb
[13:47] <Zyroo> Hi  i want to share interconnection to local area systems from a server machine how can i do that
[13:47] <cson> fdisk
[13:48] <tsongki> cson, i need the files inside my external hdd.
[13:48] <ikonia> !ics | cson
[13:49] <tsunamie> heys guys. I am using start-stop-daemon to start a java web application. However every time I try and enter java flags to the command the thing crashes out. IT does'nt start and says it can't start
[13:49] <cson> tsongki: does is mount on other OSes?
[13:49] <cson> it
[13:49] <Zyroo> How can i share without iptables is there any way to do that
[13:50] <theadmin> Zyroo: ...Read the article, it has a GUI method outlined
[13:50] <sheldoraaaa> yo
[13:50] <Zyroo> theadmin: I dont have a GUI access thats why i am here
[13:51] <cson> tsunamie: what's the complete command
[13:51] <theadmin> Zyroo: Oookay, well I'm not very familiar with CLI networking to be honest :/
[13:51] <cson> zyroo: what's wrong with iptables?
[13:51] <ikonia> Zyroo: iptables is the best/correct way to do it, or setup a proxy such as squid,
[13:51] <tsunamie> cson - worked it out. Thanks. I ran the command manaully outside of the script and started debugging it from there. The problem siss that you need to add -- and then put the flags on the end of that
[13:52] <theadmin> What's the correct way to start an OpenVPN connection on boot? The configuration is stored in a single .ovpn file and NetworkManager doesn't like inline keys
[13:52] <Zyroo> cson: I have a dedicated firewall infront of all thats why i am asking for no iptable
[13:52] <tsunamie> cson, this is because the start-stop-daemon thinks the flags I am adding onto the end of the command are apart of the start-stop-daemon requests and not flags to feed into the damon command
[13:53] <Zyroo> ikonia: Is there any way with kernel route tables
[13:53] <cson> tsunamie: cool, running shit manually always helps.
[13:53] <ikonia> iptables is the kenrel routing
[13:53] <Zyroo> so if i use ip route command iptables is working behind it right?
[13:54] <ikonia> Zyroo: no
[13:54] <magdur_> guys could you suggest a software like working ccleaner?
[13:54] <Zyroo> ikonia: ok
[13:55] <theadmin> magdur_: BleachBit gets close enough.
[13:56] <BluesKaj> magdur_, clean autoclean and autoremove , with apt-get
[13:56] <cson> theadmin/ikonia: does compiz suck on your desktop?
[13:56] <theadmin> cson: Uh, no. Works fine here. If you experience graphics issues the suggestion is to stay on 12.04 for now.
[13:57] <theadmin> cson: Or just use a different DE.
[13:57] <cson> theadmin: damn.  I have to use 13 because 12 doesn't detect some of my newer hardware correctly.
[13:57] <theadmin> cson: Ah. Just fire up Xubuntu for example then
[13:57] <jack---> saucy works perfectly here
[13:59] <cson> I've already invested too much time into setting up the perfect dev environment.. 13.10 must be around the corner.
[14:00] <theadmin> cson: You don't have to reinstall, eh, you can just install Xfce from within your current setup.
[14:01] <cson> theadmin: honestly I've had really bad luck with lubuntu and xubuntu.. particularly with GRUB.
[14:01] <theadmin> cson: sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends xubuntu-desktop
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> cson: sudo apt-get install xfce4
[14:02] <theadmin> cson: Err. GRUB has nothing to do with those -- they use the same source tree and package versions as the plain Ubuntu
[14:02] <jack---> nothing to do with anybuntu
[14:02] <Blacklite_> I'd like to repeal a ban from #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:02] <jack---> grub is grub
[14:02] <theadmin> Blacklite_: Please join #ubuntu-ops for the purpose.
[14:02] <Pici> Blacklite_: #ubuntu-ops
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> Blacklite_: ask in #ubuntu-ops
[14:02] <Blacklite_> thanks
[14:02] <theadmin> cson: Err, sorry, sudo apt-get --no-install-recommends install xubuntu-desktop
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> cson: lubuntu and xubuntu differ only by the default app set once the OS loads, the kernel and grub are 100% identical
[14:03] <theadmin> cson: With recommends it will pull a bunch of Xubuntu-specific stuff in, you usually don't want that
[14:03] <theadmin> cson: Without, it's just the desktop
[14:03] <alkisg> Hi, in 12.04 all java applets crash my firefox, could someone try to load this page, so that in case he succeeds, would tell me what version of java he has so that I can use that one instead?
[14:03] <alkisg> Warning, might crash your firefox: http://ebooks.edu.gr/modules/ebook/show.php/DSB102/536/3539,14538/extras/Activities/Kef1_1_barkaris/Kef1_1_barkaris.html
[14:03] <cson> GRUB fucked up with a fresh install of xubuntu 12.04 for me.. I had to do some hackish shit on the MBR just so the laptop wouldn't boot into the windows 8 partition.
[14:04] <cson> however, ubuntu got it right so there's some difference.
[14:04] <theadmin> alkisg: Doesn't crash here. Just hangs.
[14:04] <alkisg> theadmin: with 100% cpu usage for java/firefox?
[14:05] <theadmin> alkisg: No, just... hangs. Doesn't do anything :/
[14:05] <theadmin> alkisg: Gray square, is all
[14:06] <theadmin> alkisg: Also the site is in Greek.
[14:06] <alkisg> theadmin: I have the gray square here too, but in top ==>  9824 alkisg    20   0 1283m  56m  18m S  100  1.4   7:05.54 java ==> that 100% is the java cpu usage, and in .xsession-errors I see problems with net.sourceforge.jnlp.runtime.JNLPClassLoader.initializeResources
[14:06] <alkisg> Sorry about the Greek, but no worries, I'm not asking anyone to understand what it says there :)
[14:07] <cson> computerssssssssssss
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: which java are you using?
[14:09] <theadmin> alkisg: Well, here it takes about 1% of CPU, but doesn't do anything... useful regardless
[14:09] <theadmin> Considering it's a Java app, a CPU usage that low is suspicious
[14:09] <alkisg> ActionParsnip: openjdk 6, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6192382/
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: tried oracle java?
[14:10] <alkisg> theadmin: you're supposed to see the problem with the wolf, the sheep and the box of cabbage there
[14:10] <alkisg> The gray box means it failed
[14:11] <alkisg> ActionParsnip: thanks,let me try...
[14:11]  * alkisg was just wondering if the "default" java installation was working for anyone here...
[14:11] <cson> theadmin: alright running apt-get xubuntu-desktop now... forgot the --no-install-recommends though
[14:11] <alkisg> Because it never works for me, since 12.04 - it was working in previous versions
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: webupd8 have a ppa for it
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: miakes installing easier
[14:12] <alkisg> ty, trying...
[14:12] <angs> when I do apt-get update and upgrade on ubuntu 12.04, I get "/sbin/ldconfig.real: Can't open configuration file /usr/local/lib: Too many open files" message. how can I close unnecessary files or what can I do with it?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> angs: tried a reboot?
[14:13] <angs> no but it is not my first time I get such error
[14:13] <angs> can I increase the opened file limit?
[14:13] <cson> ang: try lsof and start killing shit
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> angs: do your partitions have free space?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> cson, stuff would be a better word
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> angs: df -h      will show you
[14:14] <angs> hmm that could be the problem, I have less space
[14:14] <angs> like 1 GB
[14:14] <angs> I will try to remove some unnecessary files, thanks ActionParsnip
[14:15] <cson> make sure you have free inodes too
[14:15] <angs> how can I check it?
[14:15] <cson> it's probably df -i
[14:15] <cson> you'll have to man it
[14:16] <angs> cson, thanks
[14:18] <cson> xubuntu-desktop installed, rebooting.
[14:19] <alkisg> ActionParsnip: yeah, the oracle java works fine. Too bad that openjdk just hangs...  :-/ thanks you!
[14:20] <troulouliou_dev> hi can i install   ubuntu 13.04 from the x86 desktop iso on a cpu that does not support pae (this kernel require the flollowing featuresnot present on the cpu cmovbe ...)
[14:22] <theadmin> troulouliou_dev: You can't, you need to use the network install, it provides pae-less images
[14:22] <alkisg> troulouliou_dev: the cmov issue is not the same as the pae issue
[14:22] <alkisg> You need 10.04 for that
[14:23] <alkisg> theadmin: 13.04 has a non-pae kernel in the repositories?!
[14:23] <troulouliou_dev> alkisg,exact mesage is ..not present on the cpu : movbe
[14:23] <theadmin> alkisg: Yeah, it does, but the images are built with PAE
[14:23] <troulouliou_dev> maybe cmovbe :) screen is not well aligned
[14:23] <theadmin> alkisg: The network install provides a non-PAE image
[14:23] <alkisg> theadmin: are you sure? can you give me a link to packages.ubuntu.com that shows the non-pae kernel in 13.04?
[14:24] <alkisg> Because I was pretty sure that 12.04 was the last one to have non-pae kernels available...
[14:24] <alkisg> And that from 12.10 even the name of the kernel doesn't contain pae anymore, because there's nothing else
[14:25] <alkisg> troulouliou_dev: I haven't seen the movbe message, but for the cmov message, 12.04 isn't working, it needs 10.04
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> alkisg: if it works then screw it
[14:25] <theadmin> alkisg: Oh, never mind, you are correct
[14:25] <alkisg> I think both cases are different than the pae/nonpae issue
[14:25] <theadmin> alkisg: I was thinking 12.04
[14:25] <alkisg> theadmin: thanks for checking.
[14:25] <troulouliou_dev> alkisg, ok checking for the movbe on internet; maybe not related to pae then
[14:26] <cson> theadmin: thanks for the push.  xubuntu has freed up my cores.  I can even watch vlc full screen now.
[14:26] <theadmin> cson: err... well... good?
[14:26] <theadmin> cson: lol
[14:26] <cson> what a difference
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> cson: lighter on resources
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> cson: doesnt use junk compiz
[14:28] <cson> actionparsnip: yeah this is amazing, compiz was burning up cores, and tuning it with ccgm just made it worst.
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> cson: you can use a different WM with Gnome if you want, you can use xfwin4 with Gnome but if you are happy with the result you have then I'd stick
[14:30] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: You can't use a different WM with Unity though. Unity's a Compiz plugin
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: yes bt compiz was the issue, Gnome is still the DE
[14:30] <theadmin> (which is a terrible decision. They really gotta make it standalone)
[14:30] <troulouliou_dev> any idea what this movbe requirement is ?
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: disable unity, install tint2 and have it run at boot, job done
[14:31] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: eheh, nah, I like Unity
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: i prefer openbox as standalone wm :)
[14:35] <sedeki> I have a python script that never finishes, where do I put it to run it on startup?
[14:35] <cson> sedeki: your .bashrc would work
[14:35] <cson> unless you want it to run at the system level
[14:36] <angs> does ubuntu use  old kernel versions (linux-image-X.X.XX-XX-generic)?
[14:36] <kostkon> sedeki, startup apps?
[14:36] <Knuckle> I created a live USB stick, with a 4 GB persistence file. Can I assume any unused space after that will never be necessary and I can decrease the partition size to match the data there?
[14:37] <k1l> angs: ?
[14:38] <angs> I have linux-image-3.5.0-21-generic to linux-image-3.5.0-40-generic. I will remove old versions as they occupy 115 MB space each. are they needed files?
[14:38] <valashu> hi everyone! running into some problems with wine: "could not load python.dll"
[14:38] <valashu> msr,y m a little lost there
[14:38] <k1l> angs: no you can delete theese old kernel packages. and remove the linux-headers files too. but keep at least one kernel :)
[14:39] <angs> sure:) thanks :)
[14:39] <angs> do you know why ubuntu does not remove old ones as it gets a newer version
[14:40] <theadmin> angs: If the new one doesn't work for you, you can just use the old one
[14:40] <theadmin> angs: If it does work, you should remove old ones
[14:41] <theadmin> angs: This will remove all kernels apart from the currently running one: dpkg -l 'linux-*' | sed '/^ii/!d;/'"$(uname -r | sed "s/\(.*\)-\([^0-9]\+\)/\1/")"'/d;s/^[^ ]* [^ ]* \([^ ]*\).*/\1/;/[0-9]/!d' | xargs sudo apt-get -y purge
[14:41] <tty2> hey guys so i just installed ubuntu on a chroot inside my chromebook.. everythign works fine. but by default gnome appears to be in "touch" mode. Meaning that instead of the usual toolbars you see at the top and bottom there is this touch interface. It also seems to lack workspaces, etc. So my question is, any idea on how to force it back to looking like a regular gnome desktop?
[14:41] <angs> theadmin, thanks
[14:42] <theadmin> tty2: Ubuntu uses Unity nowadays, not the GNOME shell or panel
[14:42] <Mrokii> Hello. What can I do when, after a crash and a reset my system (login-screen) doesn't come up anymore? I go to the window that talks about starting in low graphics mode but that seems to hang as well.
[14:42] <Strit> What does this mean: Oct  4 16:19:33 strit-ubuntu kernel: [31757.129427] phy2 -> rt2x00usb_vendor_request: Error - Vendor Request 0x07 failed for offset 0x7010 with error -71.
[14:42] <tty2> theadmin, are you telling me i cant run gnome on ubuntu?
[14:42] <theadmin> tty2: You can, you just need to install gnome-shell or gnome-panel
[14:43] <tty2> theadmin, well that is probably what the app that installed this did (i dont know how to check, but i explicitly told it to install gnome)
[14:43] <tty2> theadmin, so assuming it installed gnome-panel or gnome-shell, what would the solution be?
[14:44] <theadmin> tty2: Eh. Do you have a panel on the left with the Ubuntu logo on it and "pinned" apps?
[14:44] <dlsffef> Before you login dosent give you the option to run Gnome classic?
[14:45] <tty2> theadmin, nope, i have a single toolbar across the top, int he top left it says "Activities" which brings up a touch-based menu of apps, in the middle is the time/date and to the right is my username with a drop down with logoff, system settings, etc
[14:45] <theadmin> tty2: Ah, that's GNOME.
[14:45] <theadmin> tty2: The Gnome Shell. It's not a touch interface, it's just how GNOME looks by default nowadays
[14:45] <theadmin> tty2: Install gnome-panel for the "classic" GNOME look.
[14:45] <tty2> theadmin, wow really? i hate it!
[14:46] <tty2> theadmin, ok gnome-panel it is then.. though im not sure how to unintall this and install the other.. bah crouton automated everything :(
[14:46] <tty2> i am used to gentoo so it is already a big change for me to use ubuntu at all
[14:46] <theadmin> tty2: Click: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/gnome-session-fallback
[14:47] <BluesKaj> tty2, then ubuntu will be a welcome relief for you :)
[14:47] <alkisg> theadmin: ah, btw, apturl no longer works since some months now (it worked before), at least in my 12.04, so the link you posted doesn't work, does it work for you/
[14:47] <alkisg> ?
[14:47] <Strit> My wireless adapter disconnects me from the internet sometimes. When it happens I get the following in /var/log/syslog: Oct  4 16:19:33 strit-ubuntu kernel: [31757.129427] phy2 -> rt2x00usb_vendor_request: Error - Vendor Request 0x07 failed for offset 0x7010 with error -71.
[14:47] <alkisg> Firefox then prompts "what application should I open that link with?"
[14:48] <alkisg> It doesn't know about apt...
[14:48] <tty2> BluesKaj, i started on debian before moving to gentoo. I really have no complaints over gentoo. but the last thing i wanna start is a distro war :)
[14:48] <theadmin> alkisg: Opens with the Software Centre here
[14:48] <alkisg> theadmin: which ubuntu version?
[14:48] <theadmin> tty2: If you prefer the command-line, run "sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback"
[14:48] <theadmin> alkisg: 13.04. But worked on 12.04 too...
[14:48] <alkisg> It did; it stopped working a few months ago
[14:49] <alkisg> It might be missing some "firefox-gnome-integration" or something...
[14:49] <theadmin> alkisg: Install xul-ext-ubufox
[14:49] <BluesKaj> tty2, it was merely a comment meant to be humorous
[14:49] <alkisg> theadmin: could you please pastebin the output of this? dpkg -l '*firefox*'|grep ^ii
[14:49] <alkisg> Right, let me see...
[14:49] <tty2> theadmin, apparently that was already installed
[14:49] <theadmin> alkisg: I don't use FF, so that ain't gonna do much...
[14:49] <alkisg> It's installed
[14:49] <u3> html decoder ?
[14:49] <theadmin> tty2: Oh, okay. Log out, click on the circle thing in the login screen and choose "GNOME Classic".
[14:50] <alkisg> theadmin: ah, maybe you've manually set the apt: url handler, then, in your browser's preferences...
[14:50] <tty2> theadmin, im pretty sure if i logout i just windup back at the chromebook os.. but let me try
[14:50] <theadmin> tty2: Oh... Huh.
[14:50] <theadmin> alkisg: Nope, it just worked magically
[14:50] <alkisg> theadmin: google-chrome? chromium?
[14:50] <u3> ubuntu 13.04 gnome shell classic
[14:50] <theadmin> alkisg: Google Chrome
[14:51] <u3> don work
[14:51] <fossterer> Hi! I have a problem making a script executable <headbang>
[14:51] <fossterer> #!/bin/sh doesn't help
[14:51] <alkisg> theadmin: yeah google-chrome is smarter, it's using xdg-open instead of some @#(*&@#$ internal mapping like firefox
[14:52] <theadmin> alkisg: Can't you tell Firefox to use xdg-open too?
[14:52] <Tylertwo> fossterer: What permissions does the script have?
[14:52] <tty2> theadmin, yup, logout just puts me back at chromeos (from there i can access the shell for ubuntu specifically though (its a chroot)
[14:53] <u3> Hello how can i get the freetuxtv on ubuntu 12.04.3
[14:53] <tty2> theadmin, so if there is a config file somewhere i can edit to tell startgnome to use gnome-panel i can edit it
[14:53] <Strit> fossterer, you need to make it executable by chmod +x /path/to/file
[14:53] <theadmin> tty2: Hm, I have no idea what to do with that...
[14:53] <theadmin> tty2: Can you just run "gnome-session-fallback"?
[14:53] <alkisg> theadmin: per user, yeah, but unfortunately the problem is that we can't use apt:// URLs in how-to's anymore
[14:53] <tty2> instead of startgnome?
[14:54] <theadmin> tty2: Yeah
[14:54] <tty2> theadmin, i can give it a go, brb
[14:54] <kostkon> !find freetuxtv
[14:54] <kostkon> !info freetuxtv
[14:54] <flare> hi i have problem to install private drivers in ubuntu 13.04
[14:54] <theadmin> alkisg: This is broken :/
[14:54] <kostkon> !info freetuxtv precise
[14:55] <flare> i dont have internet
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> flare: what are 'private drivers'?
[14:55] <wadie> I can't see the video of any movie..happening on vlc and movie player. using unity 2d
[14:55] <flare> privative
[14:55] <BluesKaj> orbly means proprietary
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> wadie: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[14:56] <BluesKaj> probly
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> flare: yes, do you mean 'Proprietary'?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> flare: like Nvidia drivers?
[14:56] <flare> yes
[14:56] <wadie> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[14:56] <Strit> flare, Propriatery?
[14:56] <flare> all drivers
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> wadie: do you have video driverz set up well?
[14:57] <Strit> flare, wireless USB or ethernet?
[14:57] <wadie> not sure,but it was all working fine on unity 3d
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> flare: what are you wanting to install drivers for? What hardware?
[14:58] <flare> ubunto didnt recognize video drivers
[14:58] <wadie> ActionParsnip, not sure,but it was all working fine on unity 3d
[14:58] <flare> thats the problem
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> flare: what video chip do you use?
[14:58] <flare> zafire
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> flare: ubuntu, not ubunto
[14:58] <flare> zaphire
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> flare: ati?
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> flare: run:  lspci | grep -i vga    what is output?
[14:59] <u3> have some one here have Firefox open 1000 websites,and the pc is wery slow,i think it was a virus
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> u3: depends on RAM amount, if you have a low amount of RAM it will be slow
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> !virus | u3
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> u3: this isnt windows, so suggesting it is a virus is ridiculous
[15:01] <flare> the chip is ati turks pro (radeon hd 6570)
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> flare: ok and run:  cat /etc/issue    what is output?
[15:01] <u3> ubottu,thank you
[15:01] <tty2> theadmin, ok so that didnt work.. i did find however where gnome is called in the config files
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> u3: so, how can it be a virus?
[15:02] <Ari-Yang> flare, I would not advise you to use fglrx (unless you're an avid gamer) because it has terrible 2D acceleration.
[15:03] <u3> if i write it this way what is a virus
[15:03] <flare> cat /etc issue didnt run
[15:03] <fossterer> Tylertwo: Strit: I tried 777, 755 & with/without sudo too but in vain!
[15:03] <flare> because didnt exist directory
[15:04] <BluesKaj> cat /etc/issue , flare
[15:04] <flare> ari-yang:i write like that
[15:04] <tty2> brb gonna gtry something else
[15:04] <wadie> ActionParsnip, it says in the system details that the graphics card is unkown
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> u3: a virus is defined as a program that repicates itself to other systems
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> wadie: what GPU do you use?
[15:05] <Strit> fossterer, you shouldn't use numbers for it, just use chmod +x and afterwards run it with ./filename
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> wadie: lspci | grep -i vga    will tell you
[15:05] <wadie> intel family graphics
[15:05] <wadie> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 10)
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> wadie: then you could try the xorg edgers update ppa (less fresh, more stable) or you could formulate an xorg.conf file to specify better settings than udev can detect
[15:06] <Tylertwo> fossterer: What do you mean "in vain"? You successfully changed the permissions but it still wouldn't run?
[15:06] <flare> cat/etc/issue not working
[15:06] <wadie> how do I go for the less fresh more stable update ?
[15:07] <BluesKaj> flare , there's aspace after cat
[15:07] <flare> the directory not exist
[15:07] <flare> ok
[15:07] <BluesKaj> copy and paste it
[15:07] <BluesKaj> flare, cat /etc/issue
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> flare: note thespace in the command
[15:08] <mipo> I have error on update: W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com raring Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:08] <ActionParsnip> flare: cat /etc/issue   is not cat/etc/issue    is it...
[15:08] <stroodlepup> my card reader still worked with the 2.6.x kernel, I currently use the 3.2.x kernel. how do I make it work in 3.2?
[15:08] <wadie> ActionParsnip, how do I do it ?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> mipo: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5
[15:09] <fossterer> Tylertwo: you're right
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> wadie: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:09] <fossterer> Tylertwo: It opens up with emacs on double-click
[15:09] <Strit> fossterer, did you run it by typing ./filename in terminal?
[15:09] <rsrx> Hi. Is there any ways to fix internal microphone noise for thinkpad x230?
[15:10] <fossterer> Strit: That works anyway.. I'm looking for making it a "click-executable"
[15:10] <wadie> ActionParsnip, Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:10] <Strit> fossterer, not sure that is possible anymore. I haven't been able to do it yet. :)
[15:10] <mipo> ActionParsnip: I have the last error again
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> wadie: are you installing updates or packages?
[15:11] <wadie> updates
[15:11] <stroodlepup> hello?
[15:11] <wadie> just what you gave me
[15:11] <NeoKarna> rsrx, are you using 13.04 ?
[15:11] <stroodlepup> would backports solve my problem?
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> wadie: so, software centre isnt open
[15:12] <rsrx> NeoKarna: yes
[15:12] <fossterer> Strit: ohh!
[15:12] <fossterer> Tylertwo: Do u know how to make it click-executable?
[15:12] <Mrokii> Hello. I need help! My computer crashed and now I don't see the lightdm-login screen anymore. I managed to install gdm but the desktop session that is started doesn't use my preference files (like for firefox or any other app). What can I do?
[15:13] <NeoKarna> rsrx,  did you check this http://askubuntu.com/search?q=microphone+noise
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: boot to liveCD and fsck your partitions
[15:13] <Tylertwo> fossterer: Nope
[15:13] <stroodlepup> hello?
[15:14] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: I'll need to see where/if I have a liveCD at the moment, but thanks.
[15:14] <wadie> ActionParsnip, I have software centre open but getting the same error
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> wadie: it needs to be closed
[15:14] <fossterer> Strit: Tylertwo: So, I can't make click-executables anymore?
[15:14] <wadie> how do I close it /
[15:14] <Strit> fossterer, not that I know of.
[15:15] <NeoKarna> rsrx,  see if that helps
[15:15] <wadie> ActionParsnip, how do I close it ?
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> wadie: its a program, like any other application in any other OS, close the window.....
[15:17] <wadie> ActionParsnip, because I've done that already and still not working
[15:17] <Tylertwo> fossterer: Well, I just made a shell script to try it out and set it at 764. When I double click it from nautilus it asks me if I wnat to execute or open it with a text editor..
[15:18] <fossterer> Tylertwo: really?  Are you sure you're setting the permissions right? Type ls -l to check and paste the output here?
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> fossterer: is the file chmodded executable, and in the file properties did you set to run in a terminal?
[15:20] <fossterer> Tylertwo: ActionParsnip:
[15:20] <fossterer> me@me-Lenovo-G560:~/Desktop$ ls -l firefox
[15:20] <fossterer> -rwxrwxrwx 1 me me 46 Oct  4 10:32 firefox
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> fossterer: what does the script do?
[15:21] <Tylertwo> fossterer: Try renaming it firefox.sh? Permissions look good
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> Tylertwo: file extensions do nothing in Linux
[15:22] <Tylertwo> ActionParsnip: oh ok
[15:22] <fossterer> Tylertwo: I startedd it that way of course..
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Tylertwo: this isnt windows
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> fossterer: is this to run a firefox script from a manually installed Firefox?
[15:23] <fossterer> firefox was included in the distro.. I'm js making it invoke ProfileManager by this script
[15:23] <rsrx> NeoKarna: sure. There are no real solution (only one for old versions of the kernel, so it's another bug). Looks like ubuntu just can't work correctly with stereo microphone
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> fossterer: then why not make a copy of /usr/share/applications on your desktop, then edit it. You don't need a script
[15:24] <SchrodingersScat> fossterer: it was too much to make an alias?
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> fossterer: you just need to edit the Exec=   line in the .desktop file (you can also edit the display name and keep it in the applications folder and it will show in Dash
[15:25] <NeoKarna> rsrx,  frankly speaking I really don't use microphones, so all I can do is just point you to something related to your question. Its sad though that none of it worked
[15:25] <fossterer> ActionParsnip: Well, that doesn't hurt.. Good idea!
[15:26] <rsrx> NeoKarna: anyway, thanks for trying help)
[15:26] <jmgk> hey NeoKarna
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> fossterer: bit easier
[15:26] <fossterer> ActionParsnip: SchrodingersScat: But what if this is not firefox
[15:26] <NeoKarna> rsrx,  can you tell me more about your problem ?
[15:26] <fossterer> Any general answer?
[15:26] <valashu> how do i make wine run on a different screen?
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> fossterer: I make a script, then make a file in /usr/share/applications to run it :)
[15:27] <fossterer> SchrodingersScat: ActionParsnip: I'm still looking for answer..
[15:28] <CalabYauManifold> hey gays
[15:28] <fossterer> for any general application
[15:28] <sasha_> hi, somebody to talk?
[15:29] <CalabYauManifold> how can I install build-essentials without internet connection? I downloaded the package, but it always wants to download "additional stuff"
[15:29] <SchrodingersScat> fossterer: I only saw you mention starting it with the profile manager flag, you could make an alias to run whatever command you like with the --ProfileManager
[15:29] <rsrx> NeoKarna: stereo microphone on my laptop produces a lot of noise. There are special software from realtek for windows to use it, but nothing similar for ubuntu.
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: build-essential is a metapackage, packages.ubuntu.com will be able to give you the names of packages it hauls in, you will also need to satisfy any deps thse packages have and so on and so on
[15:30] <tty3> theadmin: i decided to format the whole box and just install xfce instead :)
[15:30] <CalabYauManifold> can you please write the answer again? I have some weird screen error
[15:30] <tty3> seems i need to abandon my gnome appreciation
[15:30] <CalabYauManifold> sry
[15:30] <tty3> hmm maybe i should go all the way back to fluxbox :)
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> tty3: why not, fluxbox rocks hard
[15:31] <tty3> ActionParsnip: yea i used to love flux box
[15:31] <theadmin> tty3: Xfce is quite a bit similar to GNOME2
[15:31] <tty3> yea thats why i decided to go with xfce, it seems similar
[15:31] <theadmin> tty3: Infact, I find that it's even better than GNOME 2, because it has resizable panels, and you can have any number of panels, not just 4, and the filemanager isn't weird, and...
[15:31] <theadmin> tty3: So many more advantages
[15:32] <tty3> yea
[15:32] <tty3> usually i went with gnome because it was super light weight and had the features i wwanted atleast
[15:32] <tty3> but with the move to gnome 3 i need to give up on that view
[15:32] <theadmin> tty3: That's Xfce now lol
[15:32] <CalabYauManifold> packages.ubuntu.com doesnt give me the names it haultts in, there are only the dependencies
[15:32] <CalabYauManifold> but I'm not sure which deps are installed
[15:33] <CalabYauManifold> why is this always complicated?
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:33] <CalabYauManifold> ??
[15:33] <CalabYauManifold> ok wait
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: because yu dont have a web connection. With web access you could install easily
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: same with ANY OS installing apps from the web
[15:34] <CalabYauManifold> yes but at least I can download software an install it as normal in other os
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: you can in Ubuntu
[15:34] <CalabYauManifold> ok wait
[15:34] <CalabYauManifold> no because of my problem
[15:35] <CalabYauManifold> isnt there a package which doesnt need to download additional stuff??
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: all the packages are online, there are some on the install CD
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: is the system a laptop?
[15:36] <CalabYauManifold> I only need the make program
[15:36] <CalabYauManifold> no
[15:36] <CalabYauManifold> I want to install some driver
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: make has deps which need satisfying
[15:36] <theadmin> CalabYauManifold: It's called dependencies. It's actually rather helpful. With Windows they are always included with the app, which means you have the same stuff installed over and over again because apps reuse libraries etc, Ubuntu fixes this issue with dependencies, but you need an internet connection, yah
[15:37] <CalabYauManifold> hm
[15:37] <CalabYauManifold> I need to install the freaking driver to get access to the internet
[15:37] <tty3> theadmin: :)
[15:37] <CalabYauManifold> what is this circular login?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/build-essential
[15:37] <_andyj_> the livecd should have build-essentials right?
[15:37] <theadmin> _andyj_: No, I don't think it does
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: you can get debs fr those, but you will need deps for those packages, and those packages
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: you STILL haven't gioven the output of the command I gave
[15:38] <_andyj_> download another livecd then :)
[15:38] <CalabYauManifold> yeeeeeeeeeeeees I know, but I bet there is a package with EVERY dep of buikd-essentials
[15:38] <theadmin> CalabYauManifold: No, there's not. That's not how package management works.
[15:38] <TJ-> CalabYauManifold: This may help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline
[15:38] <Viproz> hi
[15:39] <CalabYauManifold> I already downloaded this package, but it wants to download additional stuff from the internet
[15:39] <Viproz> playing GW2 on linux with wine is it worth than on windows ?
[15:39] <CalabYauManifold> @ TJ
[15:40] <Armadillos> Viproz: It works, but it's a LOT slower then on Windows 7.  It is playable though.  Use PlayonLinux to install it, as they have everything you need.
[15:41] <TJ-> CalabYauManifold: If you need to do that from another PC, that linked wiki page gives some tips on how to get the packages required.
[15:41] <Viproz> Armadillos: okay thanks, I should play it on windows then, my config isn't very good
[15:41] <Armadillos> Viproz: What is your config?
[15:43] <Viproz> I don't the list by hand but on windows I war raming a little bit
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: you STILL haven't given the output of the command I gave
[15:43] <CalabYauManifold> GOD no wounder linux isn't a mainstream os, I'm pised
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: its the same with Windows
[15:43] <Armadillos> Viproz: I have an i7 with a Geforce GTX 670, and I was averaging around 20 FPS on Medium settings.
[15:43] <CalabYauManifold> the pc is at the other end of earth, too lazy
[15:43] <Viproz> hum, I think raming is franch, mabe lagging is better
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: ever had to copy KB files from one box to another via CD
[15:44] <CalabYauManifold> yes thats what I did with the dep package
[15:44] <CalabYauManifold> as I wrote above
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: you STILL haven't given the output of the command I gave
[15:44] <Viproz> I must go, bye thanks for the info
[15:44] <calimero82> hi guys, i installed ubu 13.04 but it was too slow and the screen wasn't ok, maybe my pc isn't ok for ubu 13.04?
[15:44] <CalabYauManifold> ok wait? What was is ? cat /etc/issue??
[15:44] <CalabYauManifold> is = it
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: yes, why has it taken so long?
[15:44] <CalabYauManifold> pc is not near me
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> calimero82: try a light session like XFCE
[15:45] <CalabYauManifold> I have to walk stairs and stuff but ok
[15:45] <calimero82> can i install lubu? it's ok for me?
[15:45] <CalabYauManifold> And btw should I give you the output? Remeber it, or type it on some paper?  If I want print pdf file, System write "printed" but no prints
[15:48] <ondrusu> Sorry my engish is bet
[15:48] <ondrusu> bat
[15:48] <cpined> hello, I had installed "Netflix Desktop" a while back...now when I try to launch it I get "Compositing is not available, please enable compositing support and relaunch Netflix Desktop"
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> ondrusu: do other files print ok?
[15:48] <CalabYauManifold> I just need to install build-essentials
[15:48] <theadmin> CalabYauManifold: Use Ubuntu. It might as well have the drivers you need. Trisquel is created by open-source maniacs for open-source maniacs, Ubuntu is created for normal people.
[15:49] <ondrusu> no nothing print
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: not supported here
[15:49] <CalabYauManifold> oh god
[15:49] <CalabYauManifold> hm
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: this is ubuntu support only
[15:49] <CalabYauManifold> I have an ubuntu version on my phone
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: doesnt matter
[15:49] <OerHeks> trisquel has its own channel
[15:49] <CalabYauManifold> -.-
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: the distro you are having issue with is not ubuntu
[15:49] <Ari-Yang> calimero82, you can install lubuntu or just run sudo apt-get install lxde to install the DE...
[15:50] <calimero82> thanks
[15:50] <CalabYauManifold> well, ok, then I look for the trisquel channel
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: ask in #trisquel   their channel is also on Freenode
[15:50] <CalabYauManifold> thx for help and byebye
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> CalabYauManifold: http://trisquel.info/en/wiki/connect-trisquel-irc-channel
[15:50] <CalabYauManifold> already there
[15:50] <CalabYauManifold> :)
[15:52] <fishcooker> how to know the box using ssd or not?
[15:52] <Guest92502> hdmi sound has left me :/ i have not changed any thing but HDMI alternative is gone in the sound properties http://pastebin.com/fiZPLujA
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: sudo lshw -C disk; sudo lshw -C drive
[15:52] <Guest92502> help please
[15:53] <chispassss> i want help too!!!!!   i have problems with brocken software!!!
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> Guest92502: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[15:54] <Ladyturkey> hi
[15:54] <Ari-Yang> Guest92502, you may need to add the boot parameter radeon.audio=1 to /etc/default/grub on line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash " then run sudo update-grub
[15:54] <Ari-Yang> and then reboot
[15:55] <Guest92502> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=84e28da3c542dfba3d6d0820f467ff1a8746f40b
[15:55] <Guest92502> But why should I have to do that. It used to worl all fine :/
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest92502: tried the large command here in step 1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> Guest92502: may help
[15:57] <oupateddie> I have a Huawei E220 modem/dongle which I try to connect to my 12.04 laptop. When I plug in the moden it starts to flash a blue light, but I can't get it to connect to the internet. I would like to remove all files related to the automatic installation and try a fresh install of the modem. Will that be advisable
[15:58] <Guest92502> killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse/* ; rm -r ~/.pulse*      -->Says:  No such file or dir
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> Guest92502: ok...I said the big file didn't I?
[15:59] <Guest92502> no you said large command
[15:59] <pii3> HI
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> Guest92502: they are synonyms
[15:59] <Guest92502> and i guessed i had to start from the top
[15:59] <pii3> i forgot username of my ubuntu
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> Guest92502: try reading the page a little more..
[15:59] <pii3> i know password i dont rememebr my username !
[15:59] <Guest92502> ok
[15:59] <cpined> hello, I had installed "Netflix Desktop" a while back...now when I try to launch it I get "Compositing is not available, please enable compositing support and relaunch Netflix Desktop"
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> pii3: boot to root recovery mode and run:  ls /home
[16:00] <pii3> its server i cannot restart
[16:00] <stereo1> /join #debian
[16:00] <Guest92502> #1A. If you are using Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS (Precise Pangolin) or later, try this first:  yes to that one. but as noted above
[16:00] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6192806/
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> pii3: if you can see the contents of the /home folder you will see your usernams
[16:00] <theadmin> pii3: Not a problem. Hold Shift while booting and boot into recovery mode, then run cat /etc/passwd | grep :1000: | awk -F ':' '{print $1;}'
[16:01] <fishcooker> ActionParsnip:
[16:01] <pii3> i have physical access
[16:01] <fishcooker> is it ata i think
[16:01] <cpined> hello, I had installed "Netflix Desktop" a while back...now when I try to launch it I get "Compositing is not available, please enable compositing support and relaunch Netflix Desktop"
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> Guest92502: that command is significantly smaller than the next one though, which you can easily see and should have lept off the screen at you as the one I was obviously meaning.
[16:01] <oupateddie> I have a Huawei E220 modem/dongle which I try to connect to my 12.04 laptop. When I plug in the moden it starts to flash a blue light, but I can't get it to connect to the internet. I would like to remove all files related to the automatic installation and try a fresh install of the modem. Will that be advisable
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> pii3: does anyone else have access ni any way and can log in ?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> pii3: as the /etc/passwd file is user readable :)
[16:02] <pii3> no :(
[16:02] <ondrusu> acctionParsnip: no print
[16:02] <fishcooker> is it right?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: search for: KingSpec KSM-mSA     online, what do you thinnk it is?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> fishcooker: did you look online at all using the details you generated?
[16:04] <dirdirdir> hello
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> pii3: then you will need to schedule some downtime
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> pii3: do you not keep details like that documented?
[16:04] <dirdirdir> can someone help me boot, via usb, ubuntu?
[16:05] <darklajid> I'm looking for fts_lucene for dovecot. Is there a decent way to search for ppas or something that might provide it? I don't see an official package, unfortunately.
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> !details | dirdirdir
[16:06] <oupateddie> dirdirdir you make a startup usb stick and then boot from there
[16:06] <cpined> hello, I had installed "Netflix Desktop" a while back...now when I try to launch it I get "Compositing is not available, please enable compositing support and relaunch Netflix Desktop"
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> cpined: do you have Compiz running ok?
[16:06] <oupateddie> you'll have to set you machine's boot sequence to look for the usb port 1st before the HDD
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> cpined: are there bugs reported?
[16:06] <cpined> no bugs
[16:06] <cpined> just that error message, this used to run fine.
[16:07] <tty3> is there a way to set up where a mouse with a single button can be used to right click (setting it up so some hotkey when pressed causes the mouse click to act as a right click)??
[16:07] <cpined> ActionParsnip: what is Compiz?
[16:07] <dirdirdir> I have a problem, I can't connect to my internet router with ubuntu. I installed ubuntu via usb, first with "universal usb installer" and didn't got internet and couldn't move my mouse; then i tried with linuxLive usb creator, and got to move my mouse but didn't got internet
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> cpined: what gives all the worthless desktop effects on the screen
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> cpined: its a window manager
[16:07] <cpined> oh
[16:07] <Ari-Yang> cpined, compiz could slow some computers down...
[16:08] <cpined> ActionParsnip: how do I tell if it is running?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> cpined: ps -ef | grep -i compiz
[16:10] <cpined> ActionParsnip: 00:00:00 grep --color=auto -i compiz --- output
[16:10] <dirdirdir> can somebody help me? I'm new and i don't understand what's going on here, hehe
[16:10] <dirdirdir> ???
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> cpined: then its not running
[16:10] <lmat> I installed libxkbcommon-dev, but I can't find xkbcommon.h anywhere.
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> dirdirdir: how do you connect to it?
[16:10] <rek> hi, mutt rocks
[16:11] <cpined> ActionParsnip:Does it need to be running for "Netflix Desktop" to function?
[16:11] <lmat> in fact,  find /usr/include -name 'xkb*'   doesn't return anything!
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> cpined: no idea. I dont use it. I'd assume so
[16:11] <rek> ActionParsnip: i've got a usb to com adapter recognized in my sys... how can i be sure it will work?
[16:12] <cpined> ok, thanks.
[16:13] <trism> lmat: strange I see it in 13.10: /usr/include/xkbcommon/xkbcommon.h
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> rek  try with live cd or usb
[16:13] <tor_> ActionParsnip: Great now my login screen is changed but I still only got analog audio. no hdmi.
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> rek  try with a live cd or usb
[16:14] <rek> MonkeyDust: mm i mean...i see it doin lsusb... but how can i be sure it will work properly
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> tor_: did you try switching your output device?
[16:14] <tor_> yes, nut it is still not there in the list
[16:15] <rek> i'll use it to program an EFI controller :) it will be cool
[16:15] <tor_> *but
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> rek  by trying to do something with it, i guess
[16:15] <rek> yeah... i don't have any come device now...oh wait i have a relay board here
[16:16] <rek> MonkeyDust: i have a velleman k8056 kit
[16:16] <rek> i could try this
[16:17] <rek> what will be the name of the com port? uhm
[16:18] <kongthap> if i mounted ext4 partition i would specify  the option field as "defaults", what if for ntfs partition what to specify for the "option field"???
[16:18] <tor_> the HDMI is present in the Pulse Volume Controll aplication. and it seems to play through HDMI cause the VU-meter is showing a signal playing. But no audio is comming and in the stock sound properties the hdmi is not even present
[16:19] <Ari-Yang> tor_, did you try adding that boot parameter I told you?
[16:20] <tor_> ActionParsnip: What now? What exactly did I install and why did it change my login screen?
[16:20] <rek> installing kde in ubuntu will mess up a lot of things
[16:20] <Ari-Yang> tor_, if you read the page, you would know....
[16:20] <tor_> Ari-Yang: no, i was mislead i think?
[16:21] <tor_> now i wonder how to undo what ActionParsnip told me to do
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> rek  i'm happy with kde
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> tor_: sounds like you install gdm, ten selected it as the dm
[16:21] <tor_> Ari-Yang: Can you tell how one more time?
[16:22] <Ari-Yang> oh you aren't that other guy, tor_ thought you were somebody else who couldn't get HDMI working...
[16:22] <Shadowandlight1> whats the chances of breaking something on my server running "apt-get upgrade"
[16:22] <Ari-Yang> [11:54:20] <Ari-Yang> Guest92502, you may need to add the boot parameter radeon.audio=1 to /etc/default/grub on line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash " then run sudo update-grub
[16:22] <Ari-Yang> [11:54:25] <Ari-Yang> and then reboot
[16:22] <Ari-Yang> ^ tor_
[16:22] <tor_> Ari-Yang: it is correct. i was guest_somenumberhere
[16:23] <Ari-Yang> ah okay
[16:23] <Wug> Shadowandlight1: if it's only upgrading one or two things, not very high
[16:23] <Ari-Yang> make GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash " look like this: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash radeon.audio=1"
[16:23] <Wug> if it wants to upgrade several hundred packages, I'd wait until you have a few hours to fix it in case something does go wrong
[16:23] <Shadowandlight1> 121 packages :(
[16:24] <PsyMar> Just installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.  Having trouble getting my Broadcom BCM4313 wireless card to work.
[16:24] <Wug> chances are it's probably ok
[16:24] <Wug> I bumped my server through 4 major versions last week and it updated 2000 packages
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | PsyMar
[16:24] <PsyMar> I've used that page.
[16:24] <tor_> Ari-Yang: where to find?
[16:25] <PsyMar> that was the first place I went, actionparsnip
[16:25] <Wug> I had to do some stuff to unbreak package dependencies, but I didn't ruin anything
[16:25] <PsyMar> I've tried both brcmsmac and wl -- brcmsmac lets me connect if I'm within about 15 feet of the router
[16:25] <PsyMar> wl doesn't seem to let me connect, period, although it keeps trying to connect
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> PsyMar: are there lots of wireless networks on the same channel near you
[16:25] <PsyMar> Not that I know of, and I have had no trouble under windows
[16:26] <PsyMar> although I don't know what channel everyone else has their wireless network on
[16:26] <lmat> trism: very strange!!
[16:26] <lmat> trism: I am using 12.04 but that shouldn't make a difference.
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> PsyMar: sudo iwlist scan | egrep 'ssid|chan'
[16:27] <PsyMar> I've currently got my router set to channel 11, I don't *think* that's the default
[16:27] <lmat> trism: How do I convince apt-get to give me xkbcommon headers ? :(
[16:27] <PsyMar> eth0 interface doesn't support scanning.
[16:27] <PsyMar> lo interface doesn't support scanning.
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> PsyMar: we dont need the output
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> PsyMar: YOU need to read it
[16:28] <trism> lmat: ahh according to packages.ubuntu.com it has a different name in 12.04: /usr/include/X11/extensions/XKBcommon.h
[16:28] <PsyMar> OK, but that doesn't help me any.
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> PsyMar: it does, are there many wifi networks on the same channel as you are using?
[16:28] <PsyMar> It doesn't list any wifi networks
[16:28] <PsyMar> or channels
[16:28] <PsyMar> it just lists those two interfaces that don't support scanning
[16:29] <PsyMar> maybe if I unplug the wired connection, but that'll disconnect me
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> PsyMar: try: sudo iwlist scan | egrep -i 'ssid|chan'
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> PsyMar: wifi can still scan, even with wired connection in
[16:30] <PsyMar> hm.  There's two 10s, two 6s, three 1s.  And mine isn't listed.
[16:30] <PsyMar> (but mine should be 11)
[16:30] <PsyMar> so none on the same channel I'm using, 2 on an adjacent channel
[16:31] <PsyMar> oh, there's mine listed, scrolled off the top
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> PsyMar: are you using hidden SSID?
[16:31] <PsyMar> no, I'm not
[16:31] <PsyMar> broadcast SSID is checked
[16:32] <cpined> ActionParsnip:I found a reference for bumblebee from you on the internet, do you still recommend that?  It was the response you gave for the same issue.
[16:35] <lmat> trism: Excellent work.
[16:36] <jost> Where do I get the hashes for Ubuntu images?
[16:37] <Star-Flower> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[16:37] <Guest96128> HDMI tor here: the quiet splash radeon audio trick did not work either
[16:38] <jost> Star-Flower: thanks
[16:38] <loa> hello, how i can limit resources of all applications except one?
[16:38] <Star-Flower> jost, your welcome
[16:38] <loa> for example using taskset
[16:38] <loa> it is ok for my application use two cores of my cpu
[16:38] <loa> i tested this
[16:39] <Star-Flower> you can do it in system monitor
[16:39] <Star-Flower> just select all the processes except the one you want ot have high priority and right click choose low priority
[16:39] <Star-Flower> then right click the one you want ot have high and set that
[16:40] <loa> it will used always?
[16:40] <Star-Flower> i think it lasts until you restart, not sure how to make it permanent
[16:42] <PsyMar> ok, this is weird
[16:42] <PsyMar> I can't connect to my own wireless network, but I can connect to a neighbor's
[16:43] <PsyMar> maybe the problem is that it's channel 11 and that isn't used much?  I'll try changing it
[16:43] <Guest96128> I still have no HDMI audio. Need help
[16:43] <chro> why I can't put gadgets in my desktop ?
[16:43] <chro> like to see the temperature
[16:44] <jhutchins> PsyMar: Sometimes the rules for entering keys on two devices are incompatible.
[16:44] <CalabiYauManifol> hey
[16:44] <CalabiYauManifol> me again
[16:44] <CalabiYauManifol> ok I have the solution
[16:45] <CalabiYauManifol> can I somewhere download a precompiled file of ath9k_htc??
[16:45] <CalabiYauManifol> I forgot that I can download thing which are already compiled
[16:45] <CalabiYauManifol> things*
[16:46] <jhutchins> CalabiYauManifol: Which is basically everything in Ubuntu.
[16:46] <CalabiYauManifol> yes yes lol
[16:46] <CalabiYauManifol> hm
[16:47] <paulus68_1> chro: you can use conky for this happy reading and discovering http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865
[16:47] <CalabiYauManifol> But I need this driver
[16:48] <CalabiYauManifol> Ok I downloaded two *.fw files
[16:48] <CalabiYauManifol> what next?? What should I do to make it work^^
[16:49] <CalabiYauManifol> I need to place it somewhere
[16:50] <genii> CalabiYauManifol: Put it in /lib/firmware/
[16:50] <CalabiYauManifol> thats all??
[16:51] <CalabiYauManifol> ok good , and then modeswitch, i'll try it
[17:02] <diverdude> How do this on the ubuntu version of apache? httpd -V
[17:02] <toothe> When I do 'ifup wlan0', my wifi card does not get onto the network.
[17:02] <toothe> What might be causing that?
[17:02] <toothe> it just hangs there.
[17:02] <tor_> I need help to get back HDMI audio out. Atm it is not present in the audio output device list in sound manager
[17:03] <faugusztin> diverdude: apache2 -V ?
[17:03] <BluesKaj> toothe, what's your soundcard chip ?
[17:03] <BluesKaj> tor_,^
[17:04] <kongthap> if i mounted ext4 partition i would specify  the option field as "defaults", what if for ntfs partition what to specify for the "option field"???
[17:04] <toothe> BluesKaj: I do not know, but this is wifi, not sound....
[17:04] <diverdude> faugusztin, mmmm no ot does not seem like it
[17:04] <BluesKaj> toothe, sorry wrong nick
[17:04] <faugusztin> diverdude: what do you mean ? it prints out Server version: Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) etc
[17:04] <faugusztin> diverdude: maybe sudo apache -V ?
[17:05] <diverdude> faugusztin, httpd -V is supposed to show the initial config file being read
[17:05] <BluesKaj> tor_,, what's your soundcard chip ?
[17:06] <faugusztin> diverdude: not sure what "httpd" do you mean, because "httpd -V" on my Apache 2 on Windows is showing exactly the same kind of information as "apache2 -V" on my ubuntu server
[17:06] <grnt> kongthap: UUID=<UUID>	/windows	ntfs-3g	defaults,rw,async,umask=0,user,locale=en_US.utf8,exec,uid=1000,gid=100	0 0
[17:07] <grnt> Where <UUID> is UUID of ntfs partition. To find it out, use `sudo blkid`
[17:07] <cson> diverdude: try which apache2, maybe your paths are fucked.
[17:08] <grnt> Also, make sure to create /windows mount point: `sudo mkdir /windows`. You can rename it too if you want.
[17:08] <IdleOne> cson: please mind your language
[17:08] <cson> which httpd, whatever.
[17:08] <BluesKaj> !language | cson
[17:08] <cson> ok sorry guys
[17:08] <kongthap> grnt: what's the different between ntfs-3g and ntfs??
[17:09] <tor_> BluesKaj: sorry i answer late
[17:09] <grnt> kongthap: ntfs-3g features more complete NTFS support. ntfs is unsafe if you plan to write to the volume, but suitable if you mount read only.
[17:10] <kongthap> ok
[17:10] <BluesKaj> tor_,  open alsamixer in the terminal , the audio chip will be listed in the upper left
[17:10] <tor_> BluesKaj:
[17:11] <kongthap> grnt: the last field should i use 0 or 2 ???
[17:11] <grnt> Use both zeros for two last fields.
[17:11] <tor_> BluesKaj:   IDT 92HD73C1X5
[17:11] <grnt> Verify that ntfs-3g is installed (it should be) with: dpkg --get-selections | grep ntfs-3g
[17:12] <PsyMar> Ugh.  It appears that I can connect to unsecured networks, but not to my WEP-128 secured network.  And I've typed the key over and over again, checked it each time, I *know* I have the right key, I even copied it off the router's webpage
[17:12] <kongthap> grnt: what about the other 2 ext4 partitions, right now i set the last field to 2, should i change to 0 ???
[17:12] <gordonjcp> PsyMar: are you sure the WEP key in the router hasn't been changed?
[17:13] <gordonjcp> PsyMar: it doesn't matter if it has, it'll only take a minute or two to crack
[17:13] <grnt> kongthap: do not touch anything in ext(2/4) partitions. They don't need to be modified.
[17:13] <PsyMar> Yes, I am looking at the WEP key in the router right now (have browser looking at <IP_ADDRESS>)
[17:13] <kongthap> grnt: thanks
[17:14] <PsyMar> I'd change it to WPA, but then I'd need to know how to connect to that, *and* I'd need to know how to get my mom's windows box to connect to it
[17:14] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: try connection to your network without any passkey
[17:14] <tor_> BluesKaj: HDA Intel   IDT 92HD73C1X5
[17:14] <tty2> hey guys, so im trying to install avant-window-manager according to the following guide: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-install-avant-window-navigator.html however when i get to the apt-get install part it seems unable to recognize the package. Any ideas?
[17:14] <tty2> im on precise if that helps matters at all
[17:14] <BluesKaj> tor_, open a terminal , sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel ,the kernelmodule /driver should load , there will be no output from the command
[17:15] <PsyMar> paulus68: how?  I can see it has security mode set to 128bit WEP
[17:15] <BluesKaj> tor_, then reboot
[17:15] <tty2> and i notice apt-add-repository doesnt actually add it to the sources.list. atleast not the one i know of in /etc/apt
[17:16] <trism> tty2: they are added to separate files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[17:16] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: if you are connected to your routers page you should be able to remove the passkey on the security part of your routers webpage
[17:16] <BluesKaj> tor_, also you should update and upgrade , so youyr graphics card links to the soundcard thru hdmi
[17:16] <tor_> BluesKaj: ok i will try a reboot now
[17:16] <PsyMar> ah, you mean temporarily disable the security
[17:16] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: yes
[17:17] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: or eventually go back to the factory settings
[17:17] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: if that doesn't interfear with your moms computer lol
[17:17] <PsyMar> and how do I make Ubuntu stop asking me for a password?
[17:17] <PsyMar> Mom's not using her computer at the moment
[17:18] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: you need to disable the security
[17:18] <PsyMar> I did!
[17:18] <tty2> trism: ahh ok
[17:18] <PsyMar> it's still showing up as secured in the list of networks
[17:18] <tty2> so that brings me back to the original problem.. why isnt avant-window-manager in there?
[17:19] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: rescan for available networks
[17:19] <PsyMar> let's try "connect to hidden wireless network"
[17:19] <PsyMar> oh, how do I do that?
[17:20] <PsyMar> aha!
[17:20] <PsyMar> ok, I'm on
[17:20] <PsyMar> with the security off
[17:20] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: great
[17:21] <PsyMar> now how do I secure it and make it work
[17:21] <PsyMar> again, broadcom router, I hear that doesn't play great with Ubuntu
[17:21] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: now you enter just a simple passkey to start with and check if you can connect with that to your network
[17:21] <PsyMar> by "simple passkey"...
[17:22] <PsyMar> I've got choices of 64-bit WEP, 128-bit WEP, or WPA/WPA2-Personal
[17:22] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: simple passkey wpa/wpa2 personal for example 123456 to start with
[17:23] <PsyMar> yeah I've got a simple one (it requires 8 chars though)
[17:23] <PsyMar> but then when I try to connect to that, it demands that I enter another password, which it won't let me enter one over 5 characters
[17:23] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: is also good but just avoid special chars like &è!() ect
[17:23] <YokoBR> hi guys. I have an hybrid hp ati laptop. Now i've installed the proprietary legacy driver, since my onboard gpu is hd4250. I've installed it with "The Fan Club" installer and it was working well. Yesterday i had a kernel update, and now everything is lagging. My specs are Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)  Mobility Radeon HD 4225/4250  Ubuntu 12.04  Linux Kernel: 3.2 X-Server version: 1.11, and this installer no longer gives m
[17:24] <YokoBR> the legacy 13.1 driver, only 13.10 beta
[17:25] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: and when you try to copy paste your password
[17:25] <grnt> Will AMD ever fix their Linux driver?
[17:25] <PsyMar> oh, I found the problem
[17:25] <PsyMar> it was "authentication" setting on the router
[17:26] <Guest35362> BluesKaj: tor_ here. still no luck. no hdmi sound and the test sound will not open either: http://pbrd.co/1aSM9zO
[17:26] <OerHeks> YokoBR, how did you install the driver? you didn't use the repository's?
[17:26] <PsyMar> needed to be set to WPA-PSK instead of WPA-PSK+WPA2-PSK
[17:26] <PsyMar> I think I'm on a secure network now
[17:26] <PsyMar> thanks for your help
[17:26] <Guest35362> BluesKaj: strange enough hdmi is mentioend on the right but it is not listed to the left
[17:26] <YokoBR> OerHeks, because i have this hybrid muxless issue. I need to use the legacy proprietary driver.
[17:27] <YokoBR> OerHeks, the opensource driver don't let me use the HD6310 gpu.
[17:27] <paulus68_1> PsyMar: your welcome
[17:27] <YokoBR> this is the installer http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/ubuntu-amd-catalyst-install
[17:29] <YokoBR> Believe me, i've tryied many ways to use this drivers, on many distros.. this installer where the only thing working.
[17:30] <jack---> YokoBR, was
[17:30] <jack---> not where
[17:31] <YokoBR> jack---, sorry, english is not my native language.
[17:31] <jaredforthewin> Does anyone know of a good Ubuntu screen recording software?
[17:31] <grnt> YokoBR: tested AMD driver is available from Ubuntu repositories.
[17:31] <grnt> There's no need to used anything from thefanclub whatever it is.
[17:31] <YokoBR> grnt, legacy proprietary 13.1?
[17:32] <smallPACS> hello all
[17:33] <smallPACS> I am attempting to "upgrade" from a really old version of ubuntu and instead of doing all the incremental update stuff I have decided to do a fresh install
[17:33] <grnt> YokoBR: if you need 13.1 specifically then the best way is to build a package using AMD's installer.
[17:33] <bazhang> jaredforthewin, kazam
[17:33] <jaredforthewin> Good.
[17:33] <grnt> If thefanclub suggests this, then it's fine.
[17:33] <Guest35362> I need a sound device/HDMI wizard.
[17:33] <YokoBR> grnt, i've tryied for over an year.
[17:33] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | Guest35362
[17:34] <smallPACS> except I am wanting to burn an ISO image of my desired ubuntu distribution but not to a CD/DVD but a USB drive
[17:34] <SchrodingersScat> oh, that might not have been accurate
[17:34] <darklajid> What can I do if a package is missing files from upstream? Is contacting the maintainer bad form?
[17:34] <grnt> YokoBR: legacy driver is not compatible with recent Linux kernel versions and X.org versions. If you need it, then you have to use older kernel and older X.
[17:35] <grnt> Probably as far back as 10.04.
[17:35] <smallPACS> I've seen a variety of software that can do this but now someone has mentioned something using daemon tools to burn the ISO
[17:35] <YokoBR> grnt, as i said on my first message, i'm on ubuntu 12.04, xserver 1.11, kernel 3.2.5
[17:35] <igadget> Hi... Can anyone point me in the right direction on how to view the progress of fsck when it's been launched from palimpsest?
[17:35] <YokoBR> <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:35] <smallPACS> just looking for a quick and dirty way to get the latest release on my system and replace the old distribution
[17:35] <ikonia> palimpsest ?
[17:36] <grnt> That definitely won't work. <IP_ADDRESS> is too recent for 13.1 catalyst.
[17:36] <ikonia> what's a palimpsest
[17:36] <paulus68_1> smallPACS: do you work with ubuntu only or also with windows
[17:36] <igadget> ikonia: a.k.a. Disk Utility
[17:36] <zamba> i have a strange problem with my ubuntu.. i have connected a minijack connector to my mic input..
[17:36] <YokoBR> omg, it's working right now. I'm using it right now.
[17:36] <zamba> i had sound for a while, but all of a sudden nothing..
[17:36] <ikonia> igadget: why would you not use fsck from the system, rather than a 3rd party one
[17:36] <zamba> i've tried everything, but i'm not able to get any input
[17:36] <YokoBR> the only problem is that i have a mouse lag on the desktop
[17:36] <zamba> i've checked the cable and there's audio there
[17:36] <grnt> YokoBR: that sounds very weird, but whatever.
[17:36] <smallPACS> paulus68_1: I am currently running a partitioned dual boot system with windows 7 and Ubuntu
[17:37] <zamba> any idea how to debug?
[17:37] <igadget> ikonia: well because Disk Utility has this nice little button called 'Check Filesystem', which I clicked
[17:37] <ubob_> Does anyone here have experience with SSH?
[17:38] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | ubob_
[17:38] <ikonia> igadget: so you'd rather click a button with no idea of it's status, than type "fsck"
[17:38] <ikonia> igadget: you'll need to talk to the people who make that app then, as it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[17:38] <paulus68_1> smallPACS: boot into your windows and use this link http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[17:38] <YokoBR> i'll try to disable acpi on grub
[17:38] <ubob_> A client asked me to delete domain servers from an SSH server. I have the server connect info, I connected through putty, but what now?
[17:38] <igadget> ikonia: well it's an integral part of ubuntu
[17:38] <ikonia> igadget: in what way ?
[17:38] <igadget> ikonia: it's installed by default
[17:38] <ikonia> igadget: is it ?
[17:38] <ikonia> !find palimpsest
[17:39] <ikonia> that shows as a them ?
[17:39] <ikonia>  not an app
[17:39] <igadget> ikonia: maybe I misspelled it, hang on
[17:39] <ikonia> igadget: https://help.gnome.org/users/palimpsest/ is that what you mean ?
[17:40] <igadget> ikonia: that's the one
[17:40] <ikonia> igadget: https://help.gnome.org/users/palimpsest/3.0/palimpsest.html thre is the docs for it
[17:40] <ikonia> (pretty poor)
[17:40] <Guest35362> SchrodingersScat: what ever..... I had planned to enjoy and  listen to music this night and i was really in the right mood for it. but some useless update from canonical har magically removed the HDMI output option in sound manager. So here I am without music staring at a screen with a hole lot of text that do not interest me. And I have been doin it for a long time without getting any closer a solution to my problem. I am grumpy and wan
[17:40] <Guest35362> t to keep the steem up. Sorry I am not a polite linux expert like you ;)
[17:41] <igadget> ikonia: so I noticed... but I guess it's more of a general *nix thing - palimpsest simply launches fsck in the background, and I figured there might be a general way to display the output of programs that are run into the background?
[17:41] <smallPACS> paulus68_1: Will pendrive affect any files I already have on the flash drive (i.e. do I need to partition the usb??)
[17:42] <paulus68_1> smallPACS: all files on the usb drive will be removed
[17:43] <smallPACS> paulus68_1: Further, once I create ISO, I assume I'm simply booting from USB and following
[17:43] <smallPACS> paulus68_1:the GUI's instruction to replace my current old distribution, correct?
[17:43] <tty2> anyone know why xfce4 isnt doing transparencies for me, and how i can fix that?
[17:43] <paulus68_1> smallPACS: this tool is taking care of it, and yes after you boot it will give you a live cd envirement where you can select the required options
[17:44] <paulus68_1> smallPACS: you have the option to remove everything and "format the drive" as it was a newborn baby :)
[17:44] <smallPACS> paulus68_1: sounds good. Thank you for your brain
[17:45] <paulus68_1> smallPACS: in fact you can only use USB or other external drive now since the iso is to big to burn on cd and to small for a dvd
[17:45] <Guest35362> SchrodingersScat: by the way. the ubottu you summon with your previous message take up way more space and flod the channel more than a man asking to ask. to ask to ask is polite and a way to sonder if someone has knowledge on a topic and maybe able to help
[17:46] <OerHeks> tty2, install the prop videodriver
[17:46] <smallPACS> paulus68_1: Too big?? Are the newer distributions getting that much larger??
[17:46] <tjbiddle> Anyone here maintain a private APT repository? I've been using reprepro for it - Is this considered the best tool?
[17:47] <smallPACS> paulus68_1: I thought an advantage to using Ubuntu was that it wasn't very memory intensive
[17:47] <paulus68_1> smallPACS: the current iso for 13.04 is about 785 mb tall on a normal cd it's only possible to get 700 mb
[17:47] <smallPACS> paulus68_1: Or is that just in comparison to Windows ;)
[17:47] <igadget> ikonia: never mind... I spent so much time now figuring out how to get it to display it's progress, that it's finished already... *sigh*
[17:48] <ubob_> How do I delete SSH domain servers?
[17:48] <paulus68_1> smallPACS: Ubuntu isn't a memory draining OS just the iso is bigger then a regular cdrom and therefore a usb stick is the solution to your problem
[17:48] <Prolac> hello, is it possible to rename proccesses?
[17:48] <smallPACS> paulus68_1: Gotcha
[17:49] <grnt> What in the world is "SSH domain server"
[17:49] <paulus68_1> smallPACS: I used this tutorial aswell and it works like a charm
[17:50] <ubob_> grnt, I have no idea. A person gave me a list of domain names, and asked me to remove them off the server SSH domain
[17:50] <ubob_> A domain such as http://ws10.ciwebgroup.com/
[17:50] <genii> ubob_: If you want to remove the ssh daemon, uninstall the package openssh-server
[17:50] <ubob_> No I don't want to do that
[17:51] <grnt> genii: obviously it's not what is needed
[17:51] <genii> ubob_: Maybe they mean that these machines have access by keys (not password) , and to remove the keys they have
[17:51] <grnt> ubob_: he probaby asked you to login via SSH and edit domain name records... probably on a DNS server running.
[17:52] <ubob_> genii, maybe. That makes sense, but how would I do that? I have over 400 domains I need to remove..
[17:52] <grnt> ubob_: keys should be stored under ~/.ssh
[17:53] <Pici> ubob_: I think you need more information from your 'client'
[17:53] <genii> ubob_: You should probably ask them for clarification
[17:53] <smallPACS> Every man is a damn fool for at least five minutes every day; wisdom consists in not exceeding the limit -Hubbard
[17:54] <YokoBR> guys, i've found that the mouse lag only happens on touchpad. With a usb mouse it's ok
[17:55] <grnt> What is needed for complete LaTeX environment? I set up editor, TexLive, evince as previewer. What else is needed? Some essential packages?
[17:56] <Pici> grnt: I was under the impression that texlive itself included everything you would need.
[17:56] <grnt> packages I mean TexLive packages, not apt.
[17:57] <grnt> Pici: I saw that people use something additional for bibliography. But didn't understand what it is and for what exactly.
[17:57] <Pici> grnt: You may want to ask in #latex - they'd know more than us. Its been ages since I've written any LaTeX
[17:58] <igadget> ohwell... thanks for your help guys 'n galls
[17:58]  * igadget off
[18:01] <jenny1986> http://Fun4Days.com/sms/sms.php?share=178616
[18:02] <OerHeks> no https jenny1986 ?
[18:02] <linuxearth> can one slowly-slowly help me out?
[18:03] <daftykins> linuxearth: ask...
[18:03] <daftykins> the que...
[18:03] <daftykins> stion.
[18:03] <linuxearth> i have right now opensuse 12.2 installed, i want to give ubuntu lts a try, i have burned the cd file, i am a new user, now how can i give it a try? means right with opensuse in its place, can i give it a try?
[18:04] <Calinou> linuxearth: boot on the CD/DVD
[18:04] <grnt> It's not going to install anything unless you explicitly tell it to.
[18:04] <OerHeks> linuxearth, sure, install it side-by-side or replace opensuse
[18:05] <linuxearth> ok but how do i installit side byt side?
[18:05] <linuxearth> no space
[18:05] <linuxearth> i have /home in that?
[18:05] <grnt> Grab any external USB HDD, install it on this HDD.
[18:05] <Ownix> How do I get my sdc5 and sda5 to mount on login? I always do sudo udisks --mount /dev/sda5/ /mnt/moviedisk. Can I just put this into a script and put it in init.d?
[18:06] <grnt> Ownix: man fstab
[18:06] <linuxearth> grnt: on external usb also it can be installed?
[18:06] <gordonjcp> Ownix: no
[18:06] <OerHeks> !fstab
[18:06] <grnt> linuxearth: yes.
[18:06] <linuxearth> but then how would i use that?
[18:06] <linuxearth> the usb can be inserted anywhere>?
[18:06] <linuxearth> and then directly i can use?
[18:07] <grnt> linuxearth: you would plug this USB drive with installed ubuntu, turn on your machine and before it boots anything manually select to boot from external USB HDD through BIOS.
[18:07] <OerHeks> linuxearth, no, you need to boot from it
[18:07] <linuxearth> grnt: oh i see, but how do i install in it?
[18:08] <linuxearth> OerHeks: why?
[18:08] <genii> linuxearth: Normally when you start the computer it looks in an order of things to boot from. If you have a CD/DVD, set that to be the first boot device in BIOS. If you have an USB stick or drive, set that to be the first device, etcetera.
[18:08] <linuxearth> okk
[18:08] <linuxearth> got genii but how do i install in usb? the ubuntu?
[18:08] <linuxearth> can you please give me the link?
[18:08] <linuxearth> or instrutctions?
[18:08] <linuxearth> whatever...
[18:09] <linuxearth> consider myslef a newbie
[18:09] <grnt> linuxearth: boot from burned install cd, attach external USB HDD, start installation from desktop shortcut, when installer asks you where to install, select your attached HDD. And be sure to install bootloader (There would be such option) to that attached HDD too.
[18:09] <genii> linuxearth: Do you want to copy the DVD install to the USB, or you want to boot from DVD and then install Ubuntu onto the USB? I am unclear on which you want.
[18:10] <linuxearth> genii: i want to use ubuntu, and i consider to use usb for it better as grnt suggested, means to install ubuntu on pen drive and then booting pc from it
[18:11] <linuxearth> means would give me the idea of ubuntu without changing the present configuration
[18:11] <Guest30342> Hello
[18:11] <linuxearth> and side by side i can compare opensuse and ubuntu
[18:11] <daftykins> hi
[18:11] <grnt> linuxearth: I suggested to install on external HDD, not a pendrive. Even though it is possible too, performance may suffer depending on a pendrive.
[18:11] <Guest30342> how r u m new here
[18:12] <linuxearth> external HDD? but if i have a pen drive of size 64 gb, it won't work as an external HDD?
[18:12] <daftykins> Guest30342: this channel is for support only, no chat
[18:12] <genii> linuxearth: So I would suggest to boot from the DVD, and install to the USB from there as if it was a regular hard drive.
[18:12] <linuxearth> external HDD? but if i have a pen drive of size 64 gb, it won't work as an external HDD?
[18:12] <daftykins> genii: you're completely misunderstanding the intention by the way.
[18:13] <linuxearth> and that USB can be a pen drive of size 64 GB?
[18:13] <genii> linuxearth: Pen drives/USB sticks are not really a good place to put a regular install because the operating system uses the drive a lot and wears it out quickly.
[18:13] <grnt> linuxearth: it will work, but I don't know how good it will be in terms of performance (file access/read/write speed). Probably 64 GB will be as good as HDD.
[18:13] <gaurav__> hii
[18:14] <linuxearth> grnt: oh i see
[18:14] <linuxearth> genii: oh i see
[18:15] <linuxearth> genii and grnt: to boot first from dvd and then to install it to the usb should be an easy task for a novice, though would i recognize the usb from the name, something like: /dev/sda... or anyother method would be there?
[18:15] <linuxearth> while during the process
[18:16] <grnt> linuxearth: use `sudo blkid` command in terminal to find out. All pendrives are usually labeled in an easy to recognize manner.
[18:16] <grnt> If not you would notice by it's size (64G) anyway, during installation.
[18:17] <fourq> anyone successfully install the Heroku toolbelt on 13.04?
[18:17] <fourq> https://toolbelt.heroku.com/
[18:17] <fourq> I'm having the same issue this guy wrote about: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2178554
[18:18] <genii> linuxearth: The names will still be the same, yes, like sda sdb and so on. You will probably be able to tell the USB because of it's size
[18:19] <genii> linuxearth: When it wants to put GRUB, you will want to tell it to put it on the USB and not your main hard drive
[18:21] <abstrusenick> i have ubuntu 13.04 and ufw won't start on boot
[18:21] <abstrusenick> any idea why?
[18:21] <abstrusenick> i have done ufw enable
[18:22] <Ownix> I am editing my fstab now and im wondering why there are so many spaces between the different sections
[18:22] <Ownix> Is one space enough?
[18:22] <reisio> Ownix: yes
[18:22] <reisio> Ownix: tab stops are handy, for making columns clear
[18:22] <reisio> but not required
[18:24] <reisio> daftykins: from here!
[18:24] <daftykins> indeed!
[18:25] <BluesKaj> abstrusenick, it should start by default afaik
[18:25] <abstrusenick> BluesKaj: in my case its always inactive after boot :(
[18:25] <abstrusenick> don't know how to trace whats wrong
[18:26] <abstrusenick> have to manually run ufw enable every boot now
[18:26] <BluesKaj> abstrusenick, try it in the terminal , see what the output is.
[18:26] <OerHeks> abstrusenick, when i enabled ufw in systemsettings , it asked me for my password.
[18:26] <abstrusenick> BluesKaj: I'm sshing into the machine
[18:26] <abstrusenick> what output?
[18:27] <malinus> hello. How do I encrypt my home, AFTER installing Ubuntu, where I choose "no".
[18:27] <Karol_> ubuntu is stupid
[18:27] <BluesKaj> if there are any errors or such
[18:27] <daftykins> malinus: painfully.
[18:27] <BluesKaj> abstrusenick,^
[18:27] <abstrusenick> i guess i will try to downgrade to 12.10
[18:28] <malinus> daftykins, but possible?
[18:28] <daftykins> dunno
[18:28] <grnt> malinus: why do you need to encrypt it?
[18:28] <repudiate> I have only 70 GB free on my HD on my laptop.
[18:29] <repudiate> Is this OK to install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7?
[18:29] <grnt> repudiate: yes.
[18:29] <OerHeks> repudiate, sure
[18:29] <repudiate> Would I have any issues?
[18:29] <malinus> grnt, because of the amount of child porn in my home directory
[18:29] <repudiate> Will it be comfortable?
[18:29] <grnt> repudiate: no, yes.
[18:29] <repudiate> wow..
[18:29] <repudiate> grnt: ?
[18:29] <repudiate> How big is Ubuntu?
[18:30] <malinus> grnt, but seriously - I can't see why not.
[18:30] <grnt> repudiate: issues = no, comfortable = yes.
[18:30] <repudiate> oh ok, great
[18:30] <repudiate> How big is Ubuntu?
[18:30] <Tylertwo> repudiate: About 3gb from a fresh install
[18:30] <repudiate> Nice
[18:30] <repudiate> Thanks guys.
[18:30] <repudiate> How would i install from dvd
[18:30] <repudiate> DL and put it on a DVD?
[18:31] <repudiate> Where do i dl from reliably/
[18:31] <grnt> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-desktop-latest
[18:31] <reisio> repudiate: whereabouts are you geographically?
[18:32] <repudiate> grnt: Thanks
[18:32] <odium> Lighttpd doesn't seem to have ssl compiled into it, is there some trick to getting that, or should I compile it from source?
[18:32] <repudiate> grnt: Where do I get the DVD?!
[18:32] <grnt> odium: lighttpd is not maintained anymore, use NGINX. It's trivial to compile it from source with SSL.
[18:33] <repudiate> oh got it
[18:33] <reisio> repudiate: waste of time, get an ordinary image
[18:33] <odium> grnt, but I use the h264_mod for streaming movies.
[18:34] <grnt> odium: http://h264.code-shop.com/trac/wiki/Mod-H264-Streaming-Nginx-Version2
[18:34] <odium> oh.. cool.
[18:34] <odium> thanks.
[18:36] <repudiate> Ok, decided to get it on a VM
[18:36] <repudiate> How do I do this?
[18:36] <ElixirVitae> Hi!
[18:36] <ElixirVitae> So, lubuntu 12.04 is not LTS.
[18:37] <ElixirVitae> What if I were to netinstall ubuntu and get lubuntu-desktop package?
[18:37] <ElixirVitae> Wouldn't that be practically same with lubuntu for the most part?
[18:37] <ElixirVitae> With lts, no less.
[18:37] <grnt> repudiate: downloadable ubuntu ISO is here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[18:38] <grnt> Get it and install/put it anywhere you can/want.
[18:38] <ElixirVitae> So amny FloodBots~
[18:38] <repudiate> grnt: Even for a VM install, right?
[18:38] <daftykins> ElixirVitae: i would wager the point being made is that the lxde part is not getting supported, grafting it onto 12.04 wouldn't change that
[18:38] <repudiate> Doesn't change anything?
[18:38] <grnt> No.
[18:38] <grnt> No = doesn't change.
[18:38] <darklajid> I'm missing a package in debian/ubuntu (some files from upstream are not part of any package for dovecot). Any tutorial for rolling my own package?
[18:39] <appkins> Has anyone had any luck getting unity 3d hardware-rendered in virtualbox and ubuntu 13.04?
[18:39] <ElixirVitae> So, daftykin, what about getting "some" lxde parts from PPA or any other alternative means?
[18:39] <grnt> If you need it in VM, decide on what virtualization software you need first. VirtualBox or VmWare Player (Windows).
[18:39] <daftykins> ElixirVitae: also unsupported! :)
[18:39] <ElixirVitae> Well, I need support for the OS itself, not the programs I add into it.
[18:40] <ElixirVitae> Like kernel and other shenanigans.
[18:40] <appkins> Has anyone had any luck getting unity 3d hardware-rendered in virtualbox and ubuntu 13.04?
[18:40] <daftykins> ElixirVitae: ah, give it a whirl then
[18:40] <tty2> OerHeks: ohyou mean proprietary? it is already installed
[18:40] <daftykins> appkins: don't repeat yourself. we're not ignoring you!
[18:40] <ElixirVitae> So, it will be same.
[18:40] <reisio> appkins: I don't recall, did for Windows once, IIRC
[18:41] <ElixirVitae> And, while I am at it, why no LTS love for lubuntu?
[18:41] <sharpy35> hey ubuntu geeks. how can i prevent flashplayer from being updated? i found this command which works for firefox -  echo "firefox hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections how can i use this for flashplayer? just replace firefox with flashplayer?
[18:41] <appkins> I've installed the vbox guest additions
[18:41] <appkins> 3d support is enabled
[18:41] <daftykins> appkins: keep it on one line please.
[18:41] <reisio> sharpy35: apt pinning, maybe?
[18:42] <sharpy35> what do you mean with apt pinning?
[18:42] <sharpy35> i mean i know apt
[18:42] <cotton> anyone mirroring repos?  how large is the source compared to without..?  I'm mirroring just main and universe.
[18:42] <sharpy35> but dunno what you with pinning mean
[18:42] <cotton> and that was 50GB
[18:42] <cotton> without sources...
[18:42] <BluesKaj> sharpy35, Firefox and flashplayer are dependent on each other
[18:43] <sharpy35> the reason why is, i am sick of edit the libflashplayer.so so that the fullscreen remain open while i am "working" on my other desktop
[18:43] <Aquaword> hi
[18:43] <ElixirVitae> Also, I learned about Flash not being supported other then security fixes.
[18:43] <sharpy35> i know bluesKaj
[18:43] <reisio> hi Aquaword
[18:43] <ElixirVitae> Do I really need to get pepper for my chromium?
[18:43] <appkins> I've done everything at the following link with no luck whatsoever. http://blog.guy.ht/2013/01/Ubuntu-12.10-(Unity)-runs-slow-in-VirtualBox/
[18:44] <reisio> ElixirVitae: nope
[18:44] <ElixirVitae> Or, is 12 something is fine for the most flash content?
[18:44] <Aquaword> maybe its ubuntu related, my google chrome toolbar text are shortened like ja.. for javascript , any idea why?
[18:44] <BluesKaj> onsha then what do you mean
[18:44] <reisio> ElixirVitae: AFAIK all significant Flash development has ceased
[18:44] <jophish_> yo yo yo
[18:44] <Aquaword> anyone has the same?
[18:44] <jophish_> My volume keeps changing on its own
[18:44] <jophish_> It's very very annoying
[18:45] <jophish_> I don't know where to begin sorting this out
[18:45] <reisio> jophish_: start alsamixer in a terminal, stop it
[18:45] <BluesKaj> sharpy35, then what o you mean
[18:45] <darklajid> Is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1235401 enough to ask for a package? Anything missing?
[18:46] <appkins> I'm at a loss I guess...:-(
[18:46] <jophish_> reisio, It was happening in alsamixer
[18:46] <jophish_> and is still happening
[18:46] <sharpy35> ah everythings alright i fixed it
[18:46] <sharpy35> thanks :)
[18:46] <jophish_> the bars in alsamixer were moving and all
[18:47] <jophish_> My system could be getting spurious messages from somewhere
[18:47] <jophish_> Is there a way to see all keypresses?
[18:47] <daftykins> appkins: maybe find a vbox channel
[18:47] <repudiate> grnt: VirtualBox is for Windows, right.
[18:47] <hid> hi
[18:48] <repudiate> grnt: Can I just choose the iso file when installing or?
[18:48] <reisio> jophish_: you have keyboard buttons for volume?
[18:48] <reisio> repudiate: it's cross platform
[18:48] <jophish_> reisio, yes
[18:48] <reisio> repudiate: yes you can, in the 'storage' prefs
[18:48] <hid> what happens if i don't install a gdm software after installing gnome? (ubuntu minimal)
[18:48] <jophish_> up down and mute
[18:49] <hid> will i have a black screen or?
[18:49] <code_root> hayy ....
[18:50] <Ownix> shit.... my server wont come back up now after editing fstab
[18:50] <Rory> hid: What package are you installing to get gnome?
[18:50] <Ownix> I didnt touch the partition with the root filesystem on it
[18:50] <Rory> Ownix: Do you have physical access to it?
[18:50] <Rory> Ownix: Filesystems are mounted before ssh is started
[18:50] <Ownix> not for another half hour
[18:51] <Rory> Ownix: Can you ping it?
[18:51] <jophish_> reisio, thre are no messages with xev
[18:51] <Ownix> How do I fix this when I get physical access?
[18:51] <Ownix> no ping
[18:51] <code_root> cek
[18:51] <Rory> Ownix: You would look at what's on the screen, and take action accordingly
[18:51] <reisio> jophish_: didn't say anything about xev
[18:51] <CrazyZurfer> reisio: Hi, do you remember the name of the guy that was helping me yesterday to install ubuntu?
[18:51] <jophish_> reisio, I tried that just in case
[18:52] <Rory> CrazyZurfer: Paulus68_1
[18:52] <Ownix> Rory: well thats no good if my system wont even come up
[18:52] <dreamon> Since 3hours I'm trying to play youtube videos on Firefox/Chrome/.. but no chance. Tried 13.04, 12.04. Radeon and nvidia graphiccard. no chance
[18:52] <Rory> Ownix: How do you know if you aren't in front of it? All you know from where you are now, is that networking is down on it
[18:52] <CrazyZurfer> Rory: thanks, lol
[18:52] <reisio> CrazyZurfer: nope, but almost anyone in here can
[18:52] <Rory> dreamon: What happens when you try?
[18:52] <repudiate> grnt: Can I just choose the iso file when installing or?
[18:52] <bezaban> Ownix: what rory said and possibly boot single user/recovery mode/live dist from cd/usb to correct fstab
[18:52] <Ownix> god damn it
[18:53] <bezaban> also network
[18:53] <bezaban> boot
[18:53] <bezaban> guess you ownixed yourself (sorry)
[18:53] <Rory> heh
[18:53] <Ownix> all I did was add two entries to the fstab and they both have <pass> == 2 so they are bottom priority
[18:53] <reisio> repudiate: yes you can, in the 'storage' prefs
[18:53] <repudiate> grnt: Can I just choose the iso file when installing or?
[18:53] <Rory> repudiate: Are you asking how to install Ubuntu in a virtualbox in Windows? Yes you assign the iso to the virtual CD drive: ask in #vbox for more information on this
[18:54] <repudiate> Rory: Yes
[18:54] <bezaban> Ownix: possibly it is running file system checks if a max mount count was met, how long ago did you boot?
[18:54] <repudiate> Rory: Thanks
[18:54] <dreamon> Rory, Its only white and after 20-30sec. It changes to black but no buttons .. nothing. chrome means "shockwave flash couldnt be loaded. but already installed "adobe-flashplugin"
[18:54] <Ownix> boot time generally takes like 20 seconds. Its been 4 or 5 minutes n
[18:54] <Rory> dreamon: Let's try Firefox first. Can you please run: "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer" from the terminal?
[18:55] <bezaban> Ownix: on every 30th (?) or so boot (mount really) it will check filesystems, this can take a while if you have big ones
[18:55] <Rory> Ownix: Also it will check filesystems if the system wasn't shut down cleanly
[18:56] <bezaban> if serious errors are encountered it could have halted on that, and again what rory said too :)
[18:56] <dreamon> Rory, Ok. It installed some stuff.
[18:56] <Rory> dreamon: OK, now restart Firefox and try again
[18:57] <dreamon> Rory, same problem.. nothin changed
[18:57] <Rory> dreamon: Can you please go to the page "about:plugins" in Firefox
[18:58] <brontosaurusrex> any kdenlive users? I can only have 1 timeline per project, true/false?
[18:58] <Rory> dreamon: Is there an entry for Shockwave Flash (File: libflashplayer.so) ?
[18:58] <vusie> does anyone knw how i can change sound  presets or define my own globally(not only for the media player) ?
[18:58] <Rory> vusie: Could you re-phrase that? What do you mean by sound presets?
[18:59] <dreamon> Rory, Yes it ist. Status aktiv.  Version 11,2,202,310
[18:59] <Rory> dreamon: Does Flash work on other sites, or is it only Youtube? See here to test: http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html
[19:00] <brontosaurusrex> any kdenlive users? I can only have 1 timeline per project, true/false?
[19:00] <BluesKaj> dreamon, did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras yet ?
[19:00] <abradley> I JUST created sda3. Why is CLI telling me "/dev/sda3: No such file or directory"? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6193517/
[19:01] <Rory> BluesKaj: ubuntu-restricted-extras depends on flashplugin-installer and I had him install that
[19:01] <BluesKaj> !repeat > brontosaurusrex
[19:01] <dreamon> BluesKaj, not till now
[19:01] <vusie> Rory: equalizer
[19:01] <ikonia> abradley: it wanted be created until udev creates it, normally caused by re-probing the disk
[19:01] <Rory> abradley: What are you trying to achieve?  On other PC I can see the ball runnig.. but this one ignores the ball
[19:01] <BluesKaj> Rory, it's the other way around but it also installs java etc
[19:01] <Gerowen> Just out of curiosity, I've never customized my Unity desktop.  I remember in older releases, Gnome had a built in "Theme" app that would let you install themes you downloaded from gnome-look.org and other like places.   Had you tried to install the Flash plugin any other way, apart from "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" ?
[19:03] <dreamon> Rory, No. I Tried to install, but counldnt be found.. I didnt used any kind of PPA at all.
[19:05] <Rory> dreamon: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[19:05] <BluesKaj> dreamon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[19:05] <dreamon> Rory, 12.04.3 LTS
[19:06] <Rory> dreamon: I recommend you install the package "ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[19:07] <dreamon> Rory, BluesKaj.. I doing it. Last time I tried it with 13.04, without luck.
[19:07] <dreamon> I worked on it for 3 hours.
[19:08] <BluesKaj> drea do you mean it wouldn't install or that flash failed after installing the restricted extras ?
[19:08] <BluesKaj> dreamon,^
[19:09] <dreamon> BluesKaj, Installing is not the problem. It still played nothin ..
[19:09] <v2ikemyy> hey, does anybody know a reason for that: created a file with a size 1 byte. why after removing the file i have 4 bytes more free space than before removing it. Why is it 4 instead of 1 byte?
[19:10] <tozen> v2ikemyy: such a problem, lol
[19:11] <v2ikemyy> need to explain it in school
[19:11] <OerHeks> v2ikemyy, metadata, filename, permission
[19:11] <v2ikemyy> thanks!
[19:13] <jackarg> Hello. My younger brother is looking for a one week internship. (In france in 9th grade you have to do one as part of the school system) Not sure if it would be possible, but where should I address myself to? Send a letter to canonicall? Thanks
[19:13] <jhutchins> jackarg: I would start with "contact us" or some similar tag on the web page.
[19:14] <reisio> jackarg: foreign internship, or in france?
[19:14] <Max-Powerz> jackarg get him to watch the episode where bart goes to franch for a exchange program
[19:14] <BluesKaj> dreamon, open /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins ,is  there a  flahplayer.so file ?
[19:14] <Max-Powerz> best place to start
[19:14] <jhutchins> jackarg: While this is an "official" channel, in reality it's just a bunch of fellow users waiting for someone who can answer their question.
[19:14] <snollux> Hello! I made a user account a while ago on my Ubuntu machine, and when I was creating the account it asked for things like address, email, etc. How do I change the associated email address? I just ask because it's autogenerated by certain scripts/utilities and I'd like it to be the new one
[19:14] <dreamon> Installed the "extras".. same Problem
[19:14] <BluesKaj> err flashplayer.so , dreamon
[19:14] <jackarg> jhutchins yea, but i'm sure they have a ton of email already I mean idk
[19:15] <jackarg> reisio in london in their headquarters
[19:15] <dreamon> BluesKaj, No.. only flashplugin-alternative.so
[19:16] <BluesKaj> dreamon, yeah that's fine , that's the latest
[19:16] <dreamon> BluesKaj, This is a complete new installation.
[19:17] <BluesKaj> which version , dreamon ?
[19:17] <jhutchins> jackarg: You don't ask, you don't get.
[19:17] <jackarg> jhutchins, i'm gonna call and try to figure it out
[19:17] <jhutchins> jackarg: I would imagine that it would require at least a written request, but email or other online contacts might get you the right address.
[19:17] <Rory> snollux: That's not actually a user account it's an online account for Canonical's cloud service https://one.ubuntu.com
[19:17] <dreamon> BluesKaj, Its Ubuntu 12.04.3
[19:17] <grnt> Recommend me a NVIDIA GPU.
[19:18] <Rory> grnt: #ubuntu-offtopic will
[19:18] <jhutchins> jackarg: You'll want to get him a good CV and some references.
[19:18] <grnt> Rory: alright.
[19:18] <snollux> Rory: so where the heck is dch (the Debian Changelog program that is used when making .deb files) getting an e-mail address?
[19:18] <snollux> :\
[19:18] <Ari-Yang> !offtopic | grnt
[19:18] <Ari-Yang> grnt, I recommend you also ask in #hardware
[19:19] <grnt> Ari-Yang: thanks.
[19:19] <Ari-Yang> np~
[19:19] <jhutchins> grnt: also Tom's Hardware, Anandtech, and Ars Technica.
[19:19] <BluesKaj> dreamon, one method that used to work in 12.04 was to download the adobe flashplayer , extract it , then copy the libflashplayer.so file to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[19:19] <Pici> grnt: try ##hardware
[19:20] <grnt> Already there.
[19:20] <dreamon> BluesKaj, Ok, where can I download?
[19:20] <BluesKaj> but a reboot was usually needed to make it work , dreamon
[19:20] <jackarg> jhutchins, do you think there is already demand for this type of thing? Also I just called and they're closed for the weekend so I'll call monday
[19:21] <tozen> hi all! folks need an advice in first expirience with squid. so what i've done: sudo apt-get install squid3; sudo touch /etc/squid3/block.acl; # echo 'odnoklassniki.ru' >> /etc/squid3/block.acl; # nano /etc/squid3/squid.conf after i've added string <acl block dstdomain "/etc/squid3/block.acl"> in TAG: acl section and <http_access deny block > in http_access section aswell. then # /etc/init.d/squid3 restart  but access still available. so what's wr
[19:21] <Star-Flower> zsnes is listed in the ubuntu software center, but when I click to install it it says not found
[19:21] <Star-Flower> in current software sources
[19:22] <Rory> Star-Flower: try running "sudo apt-get update" from a terminal
[19:22] <Pici> Star-Flower: I believe  its only available for certain architectures
[19:22] <BluesKaj> dreamon, http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ , choose the tar.gz for linux
[19:22] <reisio> ...
[19:22] <reisio> highly unlikely you should bother doing _that_
[19:23] <abradley> I just created a new partition /dev/sda4 in fdisk, accepting all defaults except the partition number. Why is the partition so small, shouldn't it, by default, use all the avaialbe space? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6193609/
[19:24] <Rory> abradley: There was a small amount of free space it went into
[19:24] <Rory> abradley: Possibly "in between" two other partitions
[19:24] <abradley> how can I create it so that it uses that free 34.4GB
[19:24] <abradley> ?
[19:26] <reisio> abradley: use cfdisk
[19:26] <reisio> or cgdisk
[19:26] <abradley> I'll try those, I'm unfamiliar
[19:26] <Patrice>  hi, i downloaded the last ubuntu server version but when i burn the ISO, the CD is not bootable, why?
[19:27] <jhutchins> abradley: Which one did you create?
[19:27] <reisio> Patrice: any number of reasons, can you not use a usb?
[19:27] <abradley> 4
[19:27] <Patrice> yes, i use my usb for something else, i can't
[19:27] <Patrice> resio
[19:27] <jhutchins> abradley: There are programs that can move or resize partitions, but you should have a full backup if you're going to try that.  They're slow, and if you already have the backup it's easier to just repartition the disk from scratch and restore.
[19:28] <abradley> sandbox vm
[19:28] <Rory> Does /etc/fstab expect a trailing newline?
[19:28] <Patrice> how to make the ISO of ubuntu server bootable, please?
[19:28] <jhutchins> abradley: Yeah, that ended up between 1&2.  fdisk will always pick the first available sector.  In this case, you probably wanted it to pick the first sectore AFTER partition two.
[19:28] <Rory> Patrice: Burn it to a DVD, put the DVD in the drive, boot from the DVD
[19:29] <Rory> !install | Patrice
[19:29] <amblet> burn it as image, set in bios: boot fron CD
[19:29] <Patrice> I did all that. Bios is ok to boot on CD
[19:29] <dreamon> BluesKaj, It isnt easy to download. It wats a programm to open.. I'm working on it
[19:29] <jhutchins> Patrice: Not booting?
[19:30] <Patrice> No, i burn the ISO of ubuntu server on a CD, but the CD is not bootable
[19:30] <Rory> Patrice: How many files are on the CD?
[19:31] <BluesKaj> dreamon, in FF choose save
[19:31] <amblet> hm, well.. bootable ISO, ya? hmmm.
[19:31] <Rory> Patrice: Are you getting an error message when you try to boot from the CD?
[19:31] <dreamon> BluesKaj, I cant. It pops up, which app to start with
[19:31] <Patrice> yes, it tells me "no bootable CD has been found" or something like that
[19:32] <Rory> Patrice: How many files are on the CD?
[19:32] <Rory> Patrice: One, or lots?
[19:32] <jhutchins> Patrice: make sure the md5sum of the iso matches the one listed on the server; then verify that the burn was correct with your burner program or take the md5sum of the CD device and that should match the iso & web site.
[19:32] <Patrice> all the content of the ISO image. I don't know.. I downloaded the ISO from ubuntu's site
[19:32] <Rory> !md5sum | Patrice
[19:33] <jhutchins> Patrice: He's checking to see if you actually burned the iso filesystem to disk or just saved the iso file, which is different.
[19:33] <BluesKaj> dreamon, choose Save File , it will then download to your /Home/User/Downloads file
[19:34] <Patrice> woaw... So complicated???
[19:35] <diverdude> how can i see which apache version is installed ?
[19:35] <Rory> diverdude: apache2 -v
[19:35] <reisio> dpkg -l | grep -i apache ?
[19:35] <BluesKaj> Patrice, just burn the iso file to a dvd or usb
[19:36] <dreamon> BluesKaj, there is only-> choose application to start. (search for app) Button -  Noting to save.
[19:36] <Patrice> I don't understand why i have to do that check MD5... There is no easier way to download and burn linux server?
[19:36] <reisio> Patrice: you don't have to, but you're having problems
[19:36] <Rory> Patrice: Just trying to make sure you have a correct disk image
[19:36] <reisio> Patrice: so what you do is rule out potential causes
[19:36] <BluesKaj> dreamon, which browser /
[19:36] <BluesKaj> ?
[19:36] <dreamon> Firefox, chrome, chromium.. ;)
[19:36] <Rory> Patrice: The "easy way" is to follow the official instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[19:37] <Prolac> is it possible to rename proccesses?
[19:37] <Rory> Prolac: Could you re-phrase that? What are you wanting to achieve?
[19:37] <Rory> Patrice: Specifically here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[19:38] <BluesKaj> dreamon, are you clicking on the downloads button the adobe flash website or ?
[19:38] <Patrice> thanks, i'm reading
[19:38] <dreamon> BluesKaj, Yes.. the yellow one
[19:38] <odium> I found that I need this package https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/powernowd/1.00-1ubuntu5 but I can't seem to install it conventionally, why is this?
[19:38] <BluesKaj> dreamon, did you choose the linux,tar.gz version first ?
[19:39] <Rory> odium: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[19:39] <dreamon> BluesKaj, Yes
[19:39] <Prolac> Rory, I'd like to prevent pkill cmd from disabling certain process
[19:39] <odium> Rory, saucy salamander
[19:39] <Rory> !13.10 | odium
[19:39] <odium> uhh, 13.10
[19:40] <Rory> odium: Join there and I'll try to help you
[19:40] <havv> I have a five year old laptop with 2GB RAM, will it run ubuntu 13.04 smoothly? I'm currently using lubuntu and I'm considering to switch
[19:40] <Rory> havv: Probably not as smoothly as Lubuntu. Have you considered Xubuntu as a "compromise" ?
[19:41] <Armadillos> !13.04
[19:41] <reisio> havv: yes it'll be fine, particularly if it has a dedicated gpu
[19:41] <reisio> but probably regardless
[19:41] <havv> it's integrated :\
[19:42] <TJ-> havv: It will depend on the CPU and GPU capabilities if you're talking about ubuntu-desktop. 2GB is usable so long as you don't overload it with large applications or data all running at once
[19:42] <BluesKaj> dreamon, and you don't get a dialog like this http://wstaw.org/m/2013/10/04/snapshot2.png ?
[19:42] <reisio> usable? 2gb is plenty
[19:42] <Prolac> Rory, no ideas?
[19:42] <thnee> the volume control is maxed at 10% to 100% which basically makes it an on/off switch. how can I debug this?
[19:42] <mavarazo> Hello, i need some help :). I just installed Ubuntu Server 12.04 but instead of getting to the grub2 menu, it drops me to the bios
[19:43] <reisio> mavarazo: what do you see?
[19:43] <havv> I'm mostly using it for developing in RoR, but I might need to run eclipse every once in a while
[19:43] <mavarazo> UEFI BIOS
[19:43] <reisio> mavarazo: I doubt you see that...
[19:43] <dreamon> BluesKaj, No its different.
[19:45] <jhutchins> !uefi
[19:45] <raub> mavarazo: do you mean it dropped you in grub?
[19:46] <mavarazo> no... it drops me into bios
[19:46] <jhutchins> Patrice: An incomplete or corrupt image is the most common reason for something not to boot these days.
[19:46] <dreamon> I try to start xarchiver .. so it might be possible to extract
[19:46] <TJ-> mavarazo: The EFI firmware command-line?
[19:46] <mavarazo> i think i can open that
[19:47] <jhutchins> mavarazo: Is it using Secure Boot?
[19:47] <mavarazo> yeah... but i cant disable it
[19:47] <BluesKaj> dreamon, ok , look for the flashplayer.so file in your file manager , it's probly in downloads
[19:48] <Rory> Is there a way to get the "find" command to escape spaces to I can pipe it into xargs or use it in a loop, without sed trickery?
[19:48] <TJ-> mavarazo: I don't think 12.04 had support in GRUB or kernel for secure-boot. You'd need the latest development release for that, 13.10
[19:48] <mavarazo> uhhh... now i get the grub minimal-bash
[19:49] <c3f59> Rory: Backslashes File\ Name.ext
[19:49] <Rory> c3f59: Thanks I know, but I want find to do that automatically
[19:49] <TJ-> mavarazo: Do you mean the initial RAM-disk's busybox shell?
[19:49] <Patrice> Thanks jhutchins. So i have to check MD5 on the ISO AND on the DVD? Or just on ISO is enought?
[19:49] <c3f59> Rory: ah, sorry, didn't read the whole discussion
[19:50] <Rory> c3f59: For example if the output of "find" is currently "this is a file" I'd prefer it to be "this\ is\ a\ file"
[19:50] <Rory> Patrice: Just the iso is sufficient
[19:50] <c3f59> Rory: okay…. let me think
[19:50] <Patrice> thanks
[19:50] <mavarazo> don't know... is labeld als minimal bash-like line editing
[19:51] <Rory> c3f59: I can *do* it, it's just messy. I was wondering if there was a simple way
[19:51] <dreamon> BluesKaj, No, I cant download. Its hopeless .. every time on differnet ubtunu maschines it tries to start a app after downloading. (most time softwarecenter) if I choose xarchiver it pops an Error
[19:52] <c3f59> Rory: Try piping the output through sed. something like sed -e 's/ /\\/g'
[19:53] <dreamon> BluesKaj, I found a way
[19:54] <Ownix> I edited fstab, now my server wont boot and I get this error: http://imgur.com/NwIGcNp also I booted to a live CD, mounted the disk and opened up fstab and all the stuff that was in there before is now gone
[19:55] <dreamon> BluesKaj, Ok, I copied file.. and now?
[19:56] <dreamon> BluesKaj, Its now in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[19:57] <CQ> is there any way I can figure out if can use FB-DDR2s on my MoBo or not? I don't think it can use ECC ... MoBo is http://www.msi.com/product/mb/G45M.html#/?div=Basic
[19:57] <CQ> or does FB mean ECC automatically?
[19:57] <BluesKaj> dreamon .in the terminal type wget , then paste the url and enter
[19:57] <Ownix> Okay I am now able to access my fstab from my live CD. How do I interpret these errors?? http://imgur.com/NwIGcNp
[19:58] <dreamon> BluesKaj, The way, was to choose download for different OS.. so I could download the thing..
[19:58] <BluesKaj> dreamon, on the whole tar.gz file , just the libflashplayer.so file
[19:58] <BluesKaj> not
[19:59] <dreamon> BluesKaj, Yes.. only the libflashplayer.so I copied as root to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[20:00] <Stinky-Feet> Rory: Is this what you are are after? http://notfaq.wordpress.com/2006/07/30/unix-filenames-with-spaces-in-find-xargs/
[20:00] <dreamon> BluesKaj, Now reboot?
[20:00] <BluesKaj> dreamon, ok , now will probly need to reboot
[20:02] <kriskropd> does anyone here know how to force elinks to download a file to local disk regardless of file type? something like a "save link as" ?
[20:03] <zykotick9> kriskropd: "d" perhaps