[03:09] <Data_> gin, you can install you cd and run apt-get or synaptic to install servers you need
[03:09] <sohmc2015> perplexity, pastebin is being a pain...give me one more minute
[03:09] <incorrect> thanks nscd make a big difference
[03:09] <IdleOne> Gin: on www.ubuntu.com look for the Alternate CD install ( server install )
[03:10] <lightseed> sunshine: g++?
[03:11] <Gin> is there any option to tell the installer NOT install the GUI?
[03:11] <genii> Nowadays I don't bother much with the regular iso install. I do the server cd install to cli then do apt-get install ?ubuntu-desktop for whichever wm makes sense
[03:11] <IdleOne> Gin: no there isnt . they made seperate cd's for it
[03:11] <lightseed> Gin: when the cd boots dont you hit like f1 or something?
[03:11] <sohmc2015> perplexity, http://pastebin.com/870225
[03:11] <Gin> lemme see
[03:11] <lightseed> Gin: then you can select a server install maybe?
[03:12] <Gin> gonna try it now
[03:12] <IdleOne> sunshine: you probably need " build-essential " and also see !compile
[03:12] <genii> incorrect Glad it helped :)
[03:12] <perplexity> sohmc2015, it's being a pain here too ;)
[03:12] <incorrect>  getent passwd | wc -l gives 6664
[03:13] <sohmc2015> perplexity, you can try http://paste.getlinuxhelp.org/103188
[03:13] <incorrect> genii, i had been easting my time with winbind cache time settings
[03:13] <sohmc2015> !pastebin
[03:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:13] <perplexity> #
[03:13] <perplexity> 0000:00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4376
[03:13] <sohmc2015> perplexity, so it's being mounted as a ide device?
[03:13] <perplexity> thats it sohmc2015.. that controller is supported (for certain definitions of supported) but only in very recent kernels
[03:14] <perplexity> so the chances of it working in any current liveCD are almost nil..
[03:14] <genii> incorrect Before nscd I homebrewed a solution using a transparent squid proxy. Messy but worked
[03:14] <perplexity> you may have to even use an -mm kernel to get somewhat reliable
[03:14] <incorrect> genii, sounds it
[03:15] <sohmc2015> perplexity, I'm able to mount sata drives with the ubuntu live cd, no problem.  but the problem is I can't get the ubuntu live CD to boot.  It won't even run the CD check
[03:16] <sohmc2015> perplexity, which is why I'm running DSL
[03:16] <sohmc2015> (damn small linux)
[03:16] <perplexity> hang on.. how do you get the livecd to mount sata drives if it won't boot ??
[03:16] <sohmc2015> perplexity, I'm running the DSL live cd right now
[03:17] <perplexity> you said.. --I'm able to mount sata drives with the ubuntu live cd, no problem.  but the problem is I can't get the ubuntu live CD to boot.-- how do you get the ubuntu livecd to mount sata drives if it won't boot ?
[03:18] <sohmc2015> perplexity, I'm confused...I'm not sure if I understand your question.
[03:18] <perplexity> You told me you can't get the ubuntu livecd to boot.. correct ?
[03:18] <genii> I imagine when it DID boot it worked
[03:18] <sohmc2015> perplexity, yes
[03:18] <zoli2k>  I need to check the LAN connection of my server with an internal machine. I have no physical access. The LAN is down. There are two possibilities: LAN is disconnected, or the second internal machine is down. How can I check this? (the distance between the servers is 30km, so it is important question)
[03:18] <perplexity> but then you said you can mount sata drives using the ubuntu livecd..
[03:18] <sohmc2015> perplexity, yes, I've done it before
[03:19] <perplexity> ok, but not on this machine ?
[03:19] <sohmc2015> perplexity, no
[03:19] <genii> zoli2k use something like traceroute
[03:19] <sohmc2015> sorry for confusing you
[03:19] <perplexity> right..
[03:19] <sohmc2015> perplexity, I'm trying to restore some files on a friends machine
[03:19] <IdleOne> zoli2k: if LAN is disconnected or if the machine is down  turned off ) then you need o take a drive
[03:20] <zoli2k> genii:  they are connected directly by optical cable, so no traceroute will help.
[03:20] <genii> I think traceroute is differently named on buntu dists
[03:20] <BrendanM> try tracepath
[03:20] <perplexity> the controller on this mainboard is one for which support is somewhat recent and experimental, which means the likelihood of it working on any current livecd is minimal..
[03:20] <BrendanM> you can also just install traceroute
[03:20] <zoli2k> IdleOne: Yes I must take a ride, but the question is to which server house :)
[03:20] <perplexity> you may be SOL at the moment sohmc2015
[03:20] <IdleOne> zoli2k: ah ok :)
[03:20] <sohmc2015> perplexity, hmmm....
[03:21] <genii> zoli2k Well, to see if any response whatsoever from it on any port use some prober utility like nmap
[03:21] <sohmc2015> perplexity, alright...I'm going try some other things here...thanks for your help
[03:21] <perplexity> welcome.. best of luck.. experimental sata can be challenging :)
[03:21] <digitalshadow> any isdn gurus around?
[03:21] <sohmc2015> perplexity, btw, how do you know that the controller is recent?
[03:21] <zoli2k> genii: you give me a good idea ;)
[03:21] <sohmc2015> I've installed ubuntu on a sata drive at home
[03:22] <genii> digitalshadow Something pri card related?
[03:22] <jpolanco> hi
[03:22] <jpolanco> how can i suspend from a terminal?
[03:22] <digitalshadow> not really card related, but some strange connection problem
[03:23] <jpolanco> how can i suspend from a terminal?
[03:23] <ghb> BrendanM: Nope. I still can't get it to work.
[03:23] <genii> digitalshadow: Ah OK.. if it was something like getting zaptel drivers working perhaps I could be of some assistance.
[03:23] <jpolanco> how can i suspend from a terminal?
[03:23] <sohmc2015> jpolanco, suspend what?
[03:24] <jpolanco> my laptop
[03:24] <zoli2k> genii:  I checked, and probably the storm broked something, I hope that the server house is not burned down :)
[03:24] <sohmc2015> jpolanco, you mean like in windows?
[03:24] <holyduck> i think shutdown has a switch for it
[03:24] <jpolanco> yeh
[03:24] <holyduck> man shutdown
[03:24] <jpolanco> but from a terminal
[03:24] <holyduck> see what you find
[03:24] <jpolanco> ok
[03:24] <jpolanco> thanks
[03:24] <genii> yes, shutdown command has a switch for hibernate or so in it
[03:24] <digitalshadow> no i can't get dial-up to work
[03:25] <digitalshadow> i can't see any packages
[03:25] <ott0> my laptop's screen is an irregular 1280 x 768. can I set it gnome to be this resolution? right now the sides of the screen are not used.
[03:25] <BrendanM> ghb, what does "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" show for you?
[03:25] <perplexity> sohmc2015 ubuntu works perfectly well with sata for a certain number of controllers.. it's not sata that is the issue so much as newer hardware with little or no documentation..
[03:25] <genii> zoli2k Well I hope you are fortunate in resolving the problem
[03:26] <sorush20> hi.. where is the onscreen keyboard
[03:26] <ghb> BrendanM: Hmmm... According to it, I should have SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad installed.
[03:26] <IdleOne> sorush20: click application>add/remove
[03:26] <BrendanM> does it show a driver?
[03:26] <ghb> BrendanM: But qsynaptics says I don't.
[03:27] <IdleOne> sorush20: you will find it in there then can add to the apps menu
[03:27] <BrendanM> what's the exact error you're getting from qsynaptics?
[03:27] <BrendanM> also, do you have libsynaptics installed?
[03:27] <ghb> BrendanM: I don't know. It says a bus, name, phys, sysfs, handlers, and some other stuff.
[03:27] <fuziwuzi> i have a doumb n00b Q, is there an esitmated release date for ubuntu 6.11 (or the next version)
[03:28] <genii> fuziwuzi: 7.04 feisty fawn
[03:28] <BrendanM> April
[03:28] <IdleOne> fuziwuzi: no there isnt but 7.04 should be out in april
[03:28] <DarthLappy> fuziwuzi: You can figure it out from the numbering scheme :)
[03:28] <fuziwuzi> cheers brendanm
[03:28] <calamari> ott0: try this page... it probably isn't your exact situation, but perhaps it will get you started toward a solution: http://cornell.wordpress.com/2006/03/16/widescreen-with-ubuntu-2/
[03:29] <genii> ubuntu numbering sche is year.month eg: 7.04 = april 2007
[03:29] <DarthLappy> genii: Pah, just give it away :(
[03:29] <fuziwuzi> oh i am trying to figure out which distro to use
[03:29] <genii> ^fuziwuzi
[03:29] <ghb> BrendanM: Nope. That one wasn't installed. Doing that right now.
[03:29] <genii> DarthLappy: :)
[03:29] <IdleOne> fuziwuzi: use Ubuntu
[03:29] <fuziwuzi> figureing that out was above me head :blushes:
[03:29] <holyduck> fuziwuzi, ubuntu is good for beginers
[03:30] <BrendanM> you shouldn't have to reboot for that
[03:30] <IdleOne> fuziwuzi: Ubuntu is just " GOOD "
[03:30] <ghb> BrendanM: Rebooting, just in case.
[03:30] <BrendanM> ghb, if you want, I can show you my xorg.conf file
[03:30] <holyduck> Personaly i prefer gentoo, but ubuntu just "works"
[03:30] <BrendanM> Does somebody have a link for pastebin?
[03:30] <IdleOne> !paste
[03:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:30] <zyth> pastebin.com ?
[03:30] <ghb> BrendanM: Would be nice if you could.
[03:30] <zyth> oh hehe
[03:30] <fuziwuzi> sweet thanks for the advice
[03:30] <BrendanM> ...Unless you've got a weird wireless card or a synaptics touchpad, that is
[03:30] <calamari> I wonder if, since Warty, I've progressed from beginner to intermediate yet.. hmm probably not :)
[03:31] <pbureau> BrendanM- define weird wireless (grin)
[03:31] <ott0> thanks calamari
[03:31] <zyth> pbureau, Broadcom :)
[03:31] <calamari> ott0: sure.. I think there is a tool to figure out the modeline you'd need to use, but I do not know offhand
[03:31] <pbureau> zyth-  then again any other linux'es manage to run broadcom ?? huh??
[03:31] <IdleOne> genii: probably not the best idea you had today :)
[03:32] <zyth> pbureau, ndiswrapper
[03:32] <fuziwuzi> um, another thing, i havea  ATI X1800ST, and i know ati is less well supported than nvidia, has that changed or is there still support/drivers concerns
[03:32] <Luc1> Hi. How to install Ubuntu when my CD-ROM cannot boot from CD? I tryed sbootmgr, but in the menu isn't CDROM to select.
[03:32] <genii> IdleOne Only contemplating... ROFL
[03:32] <fuziwuzi> ST = XT
[03:32] <AzMoo> What does the LiveCD use the hard-drive for/
[03:32] <BrendanM> ghb, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3336/
[03:32] <Luc1> Is any boot disket?
[03:32] <zyth> fuziwuzi, the ATI drivers work (I am using them w/ my ATI card) but they have... quirks...
[03:32] <fuziwuzi> lol @ quirks
[03:32] <fuziwuzi> ok
[03:32] <IdleOne> Luc1: reboot and go into BIOS and set boot opitons to CDROM first then HD
[03:32] <genii> AzMoo It uses a ramdisk or virtual HD that is in ram for /
[03:32] <fuziwuzi> cheers
[03:32] <pbureau> zyth- ndiswrapper is really a workaround to be honest, but yeah I use it for my wifi Ill admit to it.
[03:33] <BrendanM> ghb, mine is sort of weird because I have a dell with both a touchpad and a pointstick, and I also use a USB mouse
[03:33] <Luc1> IdleOne: My BIOS cannot boot CDROM. He is old.
[03:33] <rulus> hi, I have a question: how can I get rid of the ftp-folders on my desktop (gnome) without unmounting them?
[03:33] <zyth> pbureau, hey, as long as it works :)
[03:33] <IdleOne> Luc1: hmmm I dont know sorry
[03:33] <BrendanM> also, when I first installed Ubuntu, it misdetected as a Wacom tablet device, so you'll see that part is commented out
[03:33] <AzMoo> genii, ah. That would be why a stuffed hard-drive made everything crash.
[03:33] <ghb> BrendanM: Ok... But it looks very similar to mine.
[03:33] <genii> Luc1 You can make a bootable floppy from one of the disk images on the cdrom which will boot to floppy then do the rest of the install from cd
[03:33] <AzMoo> genii, thanks.
[03:34] <genii> AzMoo No problem
[03:34] <persen> Hi, looking for a good graphical samba client.
[03:34] <AzMoo> persen, swat. Runs in a web browser.
[03:34] <pbureau> zyth- yeah but a true linux driver would make thing go faster (I would hope so, but probably not) I test my ndiswrapper wifi against other laptops I have in the office here ( I have 3 on windows) and the speed was about 50kbps faster... I would of hoped for more, but would think this would only happen if true linux driver are installed.
[03:34] <genii> yes, swat is good
[03:34] <burepe> Is there a command to take a screen shot?
[03:34] <Luc1> genii: You think Smart boot manager?
[03:34] <bauer77> print screen?
[03:35] <rulus> crot
[03:35] <persen> Isnt it to much a hazzle? Just want to copy a file and i have no luck in mouting it.
[03:35] <rulus> nervermind
[03:35] <uguntuvbox> hi, I have a problem with virtualbox on ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[03:35] <zyth> pbureau, if your wifi card is minipci you could possibly change it for a supported one.
[03:35] <burepe> yeah print screen
[03:35] <burepe> How do I do that?
[03:35] <persen> So, does it exist another alternative than SWAT ?
[03:35] <genii> Luc1 In your bios?
[03:35] <riotkittie> hit print screen, burepe
[03:35] <burepe> where?
[03:35] <bauer77> hit print screen on the keyboard
[03:35] <pbureau> persen-  Places - network servers - select windows network and on and on...
[03:35] <riotkittie> on your keyboard
[03:35] <zyth> burepe, on your keyboard
[03:35] <ghb> BrendanM: When I run qsynaptics, I get lots and lots of errors =(
[03:36] <bauer77> then open up gimp and ctr +V
[03:36] <Luc1> genii: In BIOS I of course do boot from floppy.
[03:36] <BrendanM> like what?
[03:36] <bauer77> or whatever you want to use
[03:36] <riotkittie> to the right of F12
[03:36] <pbureau> zyth- pcmcia ..bleh. the internal one works just fine (11b) but I rather ave the 54g WPE :)
[03:36] <AzMoo> persen, oh wait, client? You can use nautilus and use: smb://computername/sharename
[03:36] <ghb> BrendanM: Something about BadDevice and stuff.
[03:36] <genii> Luc1 and the computer has a cdrom but just cannot boot from cdrom?
[03:36] <burepe> Maybe my japanese keyboard is differnet
[03:36] <zyth> pbureau, ahhh.. hehe
[03:36] <Alzi2> I tried to install a bitmap GTK theme, but, it just gives colored, plain buttons. I remember there is a package you need to install before you can use those themes, but which was it?
[03:36] <pvandewyngaerde> i get an error hal failed, what should i do ?
[03:36] <Luc1> genii: Yes. BIOS is very old.
[03:37] <bauer77> you can problably make a hot key to Take a Screenshot too no?
[03:37] <zyth> Luc1, is there a bios update for it?
[03:37] <Luc1> BIOS boot only from HDD or A:\.
[03:37] <pbureau> pvandewyngaerde- depends on what you where doing or trying to do when you got the message
[03:37] <genii> Luc1 Yes, so there exists a floppy drive file which you create a boot floppy from. Then you boot to this floppy and continue from the cd after
[03:37] <pvandewyngaerde> pbureau: at boot
[03:37] <BrendanM> ghb, hmm, well at this point all I can suggest is googling for the specific errors you're getting and/or searching for people who have the same model of laptop you do
[03:38] <zoli2k> Luc1: Or you can try network install
[03:38] <persen> Places -- Network server - etc.. did it ! thanks
[03:38] <ghb> BrendanM: *sigh* I suppose. Thanks for your help.
[03:38] <bauer77> burepe:  You can go to System , Preferences, Keyboard Shortcuts, and create a hot key for the Print Screen command
[03:38] <BrendanM> I figured out how to get mine working mostly by searching for "Dell Latitude c610 Linux" and reading stuff
[03:38] <genii> Luc1 I will find a suitable link for you to use
[03:38] <burepe> just found a "take screen shot" under accessories
[03:38] <burepe> thanks
[03:38] <BrendanM> that one forum said something about needing the evdev driver, but I think ubuntu has that already
[03:38] <Luc1> genii: :-)
[03:39] <BrendanM> sorry
[03:39] <IdleOne> Luc1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot you can try this
[03:39] <rage_> Anyone know why my touch pad does not work with Any linux distro on my Toshiba Satalite A30? There is a way any clues?
[03:40] <incorrect> is it possible to export users home directories,  not /home but /home/<user>  and not on a per users basis
[03:40] <ShadowX> sup guys
[03:40] <zoli2k> Luc1: There is a program called Smart Boot Manager
[03:41] <IdleOne> Luc1: maybe this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB
[03:41] <fuziwuzi> *turned off by fedora support* *turned on by unbuntu support* *picks unbuntu as new distro*
[03:41] <fuziwuzi> thanks for all your help guys
[03:41] <fuziwuzi> bye
[03:41] <zoli2k> Luc1: Try this: http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/download.html
[03:41] <Luc1> zoli2k: Smart Boot Manager I tryed. I hoped then help, but I dont see CDROM select in menu.
[03:41] <zoli2k> Luc1: Sorry, I did not read the history
[03:41] <Luc1> IdleOne: USB it hasnt
[03:42] <ShadowX> hey guys. got a question. anyone know of a free alternative to WINE?
[03:42] <holy_cow> no such thing
[03:42] <rage_> ShadowX: wine is free.
[03:42] <bauer77> why would you want an alternative?
[03:42] <zoli2k> ShadowX: Crossover Office has a trial
[03:42] <bauer77> Windows is an alternative I guess
[03:42] <ShadowX> cuz I can never get what I want to run in it
[03:42] <Kud|> Is there a hotkey to switch between workspaces?
[03:42] <else-> why isn't mplayer in the repositories?
[03:42] <lightseed> you can support cedega
[03:42] <holy_cow> it doesn[t meet the criteria of 'free' however
[03:43] <ShadowX> my main reason for not having Linux as my primary OS, us cuz I cant get Photoshop or good video editing app
[03:43] <rage_> else-: it is in mulitiverse
[03:43] <ShadowX> if I can fix those two problems, linux will be my best friend for LIFE
[03:43] <else-> mh i thought i uncommented all rep
[03:43] <zoli2k> ShadowX: Because M$oft did not documented its operation system properly.
[03:43] <bauer77> Kud|:  Go to System, Preference, Keyboard Shortcuts
[03:43] <holy_cow> Shadow_mil, forget ps on linux and you can buy a decent video editing app on linux
[03:43] <gably> hello
[03:43] <gably> i"ve a problem
[03:43] <Kud|> bauer77 Thanks :)
[03:43] <AzMoo> gably, you should get that sorted soon.
[03:43] <else-> rage_: where do i get the correct rep for multiverse?
[03:43] <holy_cow> Shadow_mil, gimp is actually very good, it just lacks cmyk so if your doing print stick with a mac
[03:44] <ShadowX> well can someone help me find good alternatives to this? cuz I CANT STAND GIMP (please dont start a riot against me lol)
[03:44] <gably> i've pasted in a other server  large rules of text
[03:44] <holy_cow> shadebug, there are no alternatives
[03:44] <holy_cow> shadebug, live with it, learn it.  its very good.  i use it professionally
[03:44] <gably> and now, people says, I'm not welcome
[03:44] <AzMoo> ShadowX, photoshop on wine?
[03:44] <pvandewyngaerde> ShadowX: there is Krita, and ubuntu is developping a multi media studio
[03:44] <holy_cow> Shadow_mil, even
[03:45] <holy_cow> Shadow_x even damn
[03:45] <Pici> gably : I'm confused,what are you asking?
[03:45] <rage_> !easysource
[03:45] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:45] <rage_> else-: ^
[03:45] <gably> now
[03:45] <holy_cow> ShadowX, also dont expect people to code for free something that retails 700 to 1k retail
[03:45] <lightseed> how can i burn a cd image to a dvd for free in windows?
[03:45] <gably> what i can do
[03:45] <holy_cow> that really really not friendly
[03:45] <gably> i'know
[03:45] <gably> on the ubuntu-nl
[03:45] <holy_cow> lightseed, try #windows
[03:45] <IdleOne> Luc1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto ( google is your friend )
[03:45] <ShadowX> Photoshop doesnt work in wine, at least not CS2 on the last wine I tried :S
[03:45] <holy_cow> lightseed, wrong channel we don't do windows here
[03:46] <Toma-> ShadowX: what dont you like about it?
[03:46] <xtknight> photoshop cs2 runs in wine fine
[03:46] <ShadowX> since when?
[03:46] <xtknight> since i tried it at least
[03:46] <ShadowX> and Toma-, what dont I like about what?
[03:46] <xtknight> got some memory error, fixed it with regedit
[03:46] <AzMoo> Worked last time I tried it, which was a couple of months ago.
[03:46] <Toma-> gimp
[03:46] <ShadowX> weird, I could never get it to work. hmm
[03:46] <bauer77> xtknight: lol
[03:46] <Davegoodson> Hey can anyone help me with a problem i've got. i installed scim and set it as the default input method... now some apps dont start at all. like skype.. how do you fix it?
[03:46] <ShadowX> guess Ill try it now then
[03:47] <holy_cow> Toma-, all ps users have the same problem: ps users don't learn how to use an app, they learn the visual properties of the menues
[03:47] <lightseed> sorry i know we dont do windows here i just thought helping in getting off windows to ubuntu someone might know
[03:47] <holy_cow> Toma-, if you change the menu layout they get very confused
[03:47] <Toma-> Simple solution? http://www.gimpshop.net/
[03:47] <holy_cow> Toma-, usually it takes 6 months of hard training in ps to really get comfy in it, its actually very strange app if your starting from 0
[03:47] <IdleOne> lightseed: try asking in ##windows about free burning software
[03:47] <xtknight> Davegoodson: type 'skype' in the terminal to see if any errors are spat out
[03:47] <holy_cow> to remap your 6 months + of training is very hard work because ps users memorize, they don't learn
[03:47] <lightseed> ya ui asked thanks
[03:47] <xtknight> speaking of gimpshop i have some deb packages of it on the forums, rather aged though
[03:47] <Davegoodson> xtknight, there are plenty
[03:48] <xtknight> gimpshop is very hard to compile
[03:48] <persen> I have a ATI (lowend) 3d accelerated gfx card. Do i have to install some proprietary ATI drivers for it?
[03:48] <mjr> persen, probably not. Which, though?
[03:48] <Toma-> Theres an RPM for it... just use alien
[03:48] <hamre__> hello. i just used ifconfig and iwconfig (along with ubuntu's network tool) to configure access to my wireless ap. dhclient ath0 worked, i got my own ip and /etc/resolv.conf was written, but still i can't ping google.com anybody know what i'm missing?
[03:48] <Shankar> hello this is shankar
[03:48] <holy_cow> Toma-, no, that actually makes it worse.  that gets gimp to rought aproximation of ps, BUT, the important thing isnt to emulate ps, the important thing is to teach people gimp isnt ps and never will be.  nothing will emulate ps because of the patents adobe owns
[03:48] <xtknight> persen: depends.  i think R2xx chipsets have 3d support and R3xx do not with the open source driver
[03:48] <Shankar> *HELLO THIS IS SHANKAR FROM TAMIL NADU*
[03:48] <holy_cow> don't yell please
[03:49] <Luc1> IdleOne: ok I tryed Smart Boot Manager options and choose Rescan all boot records again.
[03:49] <Toma-> holy_cow: yeh, but it stops them crying :D
[03:49] <holy_cow> turn off the caps
[03:49] <Davegoodson> xtknight, basicly at the end it says Aborted (core dumped)
[03:49] <holy_cow> Toma-, actually it doesn't i've tried
[03:49] <Toma-> oh :<
[03:49] <xtknight> Davegoodson: anything before that?
[03:49] <ShadowX> Im gonna ask a question I saw asked a few mins ago, but didnt see an answer
[03:49] <hamre__> lol
[03:49] <hamre__> what up ShadowX
[03:49] <Shankar> *amachu, can u come to ubuntu-tam please*
[03:49] <hamre__> err
[03:49] <ShadowX> is there a hotkey combo to change desktops?
[03:49] <hamre__> Shankar:
[03:49] <hamre__> tamil nadu uh
[03:49] <Shankar> yeah, hamre
[03:49] <xtknight> ShadowX: switch to a different workspace you mean?
[03:49] <holy_cow> Toma-, it actually frustrates them more because ti lets them think its 'just like ps' ... except its not.  there is about %20 difference and a lot of it cannot be mapped accross so its PERPETUALLY frustrating
[03:49] <Davegoodson> xtknight, yep. alot of stuff xD
[03:49] <ShadowX> yesh
[03:49] <Pici> ShadowX : ctrl-alt-arrowleft or arrowright
[03:50] <holy_cow> Toma-, the only thing that works is to teach them that gimp is completely different from my experience
[03:50] <Toma-> ok.
[03:50] <xtknight> ShadowX: if you're using Beryl, it's control alt (right arrow).
[03:50] <ShadowX> ah wow thanks
[03:50] <riotkittie> or ALT #, in some of  them
[03:50] <xtknight> ShadowX: or if youre not using beryl its the same thing ;P
[03:50] <AzMoo> it's ctrl+alt+arrow even if you're not using beryl :p
[03:50] <ShadowX> lol
[03:50] <mjr> xtknight, r3xx do also, only it's perhaps not altogether as finished as the r200 driver
[03:50] <ShadowX> another thing, why does Gnome crash so bad when I use themes?
[03:50] <xtknight> Davegoodson: post the full error on pastebin
[03:50] <Shankar> *wats the best mac-like dock app for linux*
[03:50] <xtknight> ShadowX: does firefox freeze when you apply a theme you mean?
[03:50] <persen> On other check, its an NVIDIA FX 5200 card, for that i would need NVIDIA drivers?
[03:50] <Zambezi> Is there any chance I can get back files when I accidently ran "rm -r /mnt/hdb" (I ran (cp -r Backup /mnt/hdb/Backup and then changed cp to rm)
[03:51] <lojuven> @find nome_file
[03:51] <AzMoo> Shankar, I use the StartupBar desklet for gDesklets.
[03:51] <Shankar> link please, azmoo
[03:51] <lojuven> @find juve
[03:51] <frogzoo> Zambezi: if it's ext3 - they're gone
[03:51] <xtknight> Zambezi: `apt-cache search undelete`
[03:51] <riotkittie> Zambezi: ouch.
[03:51] <ShadowX> xtknight: nope, Gnome starts goin bezerk. crashing the panel, trash, and causing the bug report tool to go totally balisstic
[03:51] <genbie> anyone knows how i can move between panels in ubuntu using the keyboard please?
[03:51] <AzMoo> Shankar, synaptic.
[03:51] <holy_cow> if its reiser you have a good chance of recovering them
[03:51] <Shankar> ok
[03:52] <pbureau> ShadowX- maybe its buggy theme you tried.
[03:52] <Shankar> then you guys ought to read this http://www.nongeeksight.blogspot.com/2006/09/5-ways-to-contribute-to-open-source.html
[03:52] <IdleOne> genbie: ctrl+alt+arrow key
[03:52] <AzMoo> argh. Damn install has locked up at 99% :(
[03:52] <Pici> genbie : ctrl-alt-arrowleft or arrowright   -- is that what you're looking to do?
[03:52] <Shankar> %http://www.nongeeksight.blogspot.com/2006/09/5-ways-to-contribute-to-open-source.html %
[03:52] <ShadowX> it seems like its every theme I try though
[03:52] <Zambezi> frogzoo, It's encrypted EXT3.
[03:52] <xtknight> ugh
[03:52] <ShadowX> is there a good replacement to the standard theme "scheme"
[03:52] <frogzoo> Zambezi: game over dude
[03:52] <riotkittie> wow. wow. wow.
[03:52] <lojuven> @find juve
[03:53] <holy_cow> Zambezi, its permanently gone
[03:53] <riotkittie> Zambezi: you do believe in the power of regular backups, yes? :P
[03:53] <holy_cow> he will now
[03:53] <IdleOne> Zambezi: if you can figure out how to undelete please let me know because I have about 30gigs of mp3's I would like back :/
[03:53] <Zambezi> frogzoo, Dammit... It was my personal files that _,may_ be gone.
[03:53] <genbie> thanks idleone and pici, but doing that just moves between desktops not panels
[03:53] <hamre__> hello. i just used ifconfig and iwconfig (along with ubuntu's network tool) to configure access to my wireless ap. dhclient ath0 worked, i got my own ip and /etc/resolv.conf was written, but still i can't ping my dns, anybody know what i'm missing?
[03:53] <Davegoodson> xtknight, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3343/
[03:53] <holy_cow> Zambezi, no no, they are actually gone
[03:53] <xtknight> Zambezi: if you're really desperate, make another file containing something you know was in one of the files.  then get the encrypted version of that, then search your whole HD for that.  then figure out the encryption algorithm...etc :P
[03:53] <holy_cow> not kidding
[03:53] <holy_cow> its terrible but thats just how it goes
[03:53] <Shankar> *5 ways to contribute to opensource without programming  http://www.nongeeksight.blogspot.com/2006/09/5-ways-to-contribute-to-open-source.html *
[03:53] <ghb> BrendanM: Woho! Fixed it! Just needed to comment away some stuff in the xorg.conf.
[03:53] <adrianasantos> io
[03:53] <lounge> anyone know anything about compiling foo2zjs from source? I'm getting a foo2zjs.c:1536: warning: implicit declaration of function getc
[03:53] <lounge> foo2zjs.c:1541: warning: implicit declaration of function end_doc
[03:53] <lounge> foo2zjs.c:1543: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function exit
[03:53] <lounge>  make: *** [foo2zjs]  Error 1problems
[03:54] <Pici> !paste
[03:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:54] <adrianasantos> tudobem
[03:54] <apokryphos> lounge: a warning is not an error
[03:54] <anAngel> hi i cant talk trough skype i can hear the other side but they cant hear me. Any help
[03:54] <xtknight> looks like it errored out (make *** exit code)
[03:54] <xtknight> lounge: either there's an error above that or the source code for that program isn't compatible with your libraries
[03:54] <lounge> apokryphos, but the last line is make *** etc..
[03:54] <AzMoo> anAngel, is your microphone muted?
[03:54] <apokryphos> anAngel: use the skype test
[03:54] <Zambezi> riotkittie, It was on my backup harddrive. I know I lost things that I can get back again, but I don't know if it deleted files from the Backupfolder.
[03:54] <bulmer> hamre__: what does netstat -ran shows?  does it have a gateway?
[03:54] <destruktor> anybody from the philippines?
[03:55] <hamre__> hold up
[03:55] <lounge> xt that's pants
[03:55] <anAngel> no its not muted
[03:55] <adrianasantos> eunaofaloingles
[03:55] <xtknight> lounge: ubuntu edgy?
[03:55] <genii> Luc1 What OS is on the laptop right now?
[03:55] <riotkittie> public service announcement >> backups are the best thing since sliced bread, and if you cannot bear to lose your data, you should back it up frequently :P
[03:55] <xtknight> Davegoodson: no idea dude.  i guess scim just causes a bug in skype
[03:55] <lounge> xtknight, yes
[03:55] <apokryphos> adrianasantos: English only in here please.
[03:55] <riotkittie> ohhhhhhhhh Zambezi that sucks
[03:55] <lounge> xtknight, you make that sound ominous...
[03:55] <xtknight> lounge: ill see if i can compile it on my edgy.  small program right?
[03:56] <Zambezi> holy_cow, That sound awful, but at least I got 90 GB free... :-/ And I'm going to have two backups in the future and when I get more money, I'm going to store the files at a friends place.
[03:56] <lounge> yeah - just a printer driver
[03:56] <hamre__> bulmer: cool, it gateway shows <IP_ADDRESS>, and the other <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:56] <bulmer> riotkittie: and may I add, make sure it is backed up to a good drive
[03:56] <Luc1> genii: Why? How to you know, then I have laptop? I have Ubuntu 6.06.
[03:56] <hamre__> bulmer: <IP_ADDRESS> is the router i believe
[03:56] <bulmer> hamre__: are those really valid ip addres?
[03:56] <holy_cow> Zambezi, yeah i've had it happen many times.  i've learned to accept that my files really aren't that important
[03:56] <holy_cow> but i do have mondo backups now
[03:56] <hamre__> bulmer: no =) how do i set them?
[03:56] <Davegoodson> xtknight, thanks
[03:56] <xtknight> lounge: this what you're using http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/foo2zjs.tar.gz ?
[03:56] <riotkittie> bulmer:  indeed. of course, i should shut up because i dont back anything up :P
[03:56] <lounge> xt and there's no configure file
[03:56] <adrianasantos> eu nao emtendo ingles
[03:56] <bulmer> hamre__: then make sure that is the correct gateway then..
[03:56] <hamre__> bulmer: i tried route add default <IP_ADDRESS> but that didn't work
[03:56] <lounge> xt yes
[03:56] <hamre__> bulmer: but how?
[03:56] <riotkittie> well, i copy it from my laptop to my husband's xp box but ugh.
[03:57] <lounge> xtknight, yeah - they say not to use the ubuntu shipped drivers
[03:57] <riotkittie> i am getting an external hd for my laptop soon. or maybe an internal.
[03:57] <Zambezi> riotkittie, I know. It was logs from diving, diaries when I felt bad, documents, pictures since several years etc. Everything isn't gone, but some of it may. I haven't checked it yet.
[03:57] <bulmer> hamre__: keep looking at the result of that netstat -ran and see if gateway gets added
[03:57] <IdleOne> backups are for the weak. be a man and live on the Edgy :P
[03:57] <apokryphos> !english | adrianasantos
[03:57] <ubotu> adrianasantos: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[03:57] <bulmer> hamre__: maybe use the network manager to add
[03:57] <lounge> xtknight, and there's no configuration file - is that right???
[03:57] <xtknight> lounge: seems right
[03:57] <genii> Luc1 If you already have an ubuntu distribution then more practical to do a dist-upgrade than the smart boot manager method.
[03:57] <xtknight> lounge: it compiled fine here
[03:57] <hamre__> bulmer: isn't there a configuration file somewhere?
[03:58] <lounge> xt - that's pants!
[03:58] <adrianasantos> da pra falar em outra limgua
[03:58] <riotkittie> Zambezi: oh man, and stuff like that is always the worst to lose :\   hope the vast majority of its available
[03:58] <warlocky> Is there a way to list everything in "history" command? I only get the stuff from 50-to my last command used
[03:58] <bulmer> hamre__: yes..its /etc/network/interfaces
[03:58] <Zambezi> holy_cow, Mine are so I will buy a USB-memory and send it to a friend and then store files at his place.
[03:58] <IdleOne> !pr | adrianasantos
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <holy_cow> heh, not a bad idea
[03:58] <Kristov> hi
[03:58] <apokryphos> warlocky: cat ~/.bash_history
[03:58] <IdleOne> !pT | adrianasantos
[03:58] <ubotu> adrianasantos: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[03:58] <xtknight> lounge: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3346/
[03:58] <adrianasantos> hhghcgh
[03:58] <hamre__> bulmer: the gateway too resides in there?
[03:58] <Luc1> genii: I want install ubuntu to other PC.
[03:58] <Tartarus> hi all, question
[03:59] <Mati2k7> Siemka ;)
[03:59] <bulmer> hamre__: yes, for static at least am sure..
[03:59] <IdleOne> hello some , answers
[03:59] <Tartarus> does ubuntu need something like debian-multimedia.org for all of the 'fun' video/etc stuff, or is that just there by default?
[03:59] <Zambezi> riotkittie, I'm going to but the files on a 10 GB harddrive, on a USB-memory and going to store files at atleast one friend. Then I'm safe for fire and burglary.
[03:59] <warlocky> fanx mate
[03:59] <xtknight> Tartarus: yeah ubuntu needs it too
[03:59] <Tartarus> dang
[03:59] <adrianasantos> gudy bay
[03:59] <Tartarus> anyone here know what's up with it?
[03:59] <Tartarus> there's no files there as of today..
[03:59] <Tartarus> did it move again or something?
[04:00] <Zambezi> Thansk for your answers everybody. Now it's tv. See you later riotkittie, holy_cow, xtknight and frogzoo.
[04:00] <lounge> xt - is there any reason why it should work for you and not me? it's a pretty clean/new install?
[04:00] <xtknight> lounge: post the whole log of your compile
[04:00] <Pici> Tartarus : Ubuntu uses different repositories, but the official ones usually sit on the same servers as the normal repos
[04:01] <Tartarus> Pici, right, different code-names.  But all of www.debian-multimedia.org (incl pool) is empty right now
[04:02] <lounge> xtknight, what am i to do with the pastebin output? that's not the 'make' output, is it?
[04:02] <Gin> mhhh, looks like my server installation just froze
[04:02] <Gin> :\
[04:03] <pbureau> :((
[04:03] <persen> To get 1600x1200 res, what do i have to do? I can only choose max 1024x768 in the System -> Setting -> Screenresolution.
[04:03] <xtknight> lounge: nothing really...i was just showing you.  but copy the whole terminal's worth of your 'make' command to pastebin and give me the url so i can look at your make log
[04:03] <zyth> perplexity, dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[04:03] <Pici> Tartarus : I'm not sure what to tell you, debian-multimedia.org/ isnt an official ubuntu repository
[04:04] <Tartarus> Pici, yeah, I know.  Just wondering if someone had heard what's going on
[04:04] <Pici> Tartarus : Nope, havent heard anything
[04:04] <Tartarus> Thanks anyhow
[04:05] <incorrect> how do i find out if a file belongs to a package?
[04:06] <xtknight> incorrect: dpkg -S /path/to/file   will let you know which package that file is from
[04:06] <incorrect> ty
[04:06] <Shankar> wanna share this with you http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3347/plain/
[04:06] <Shankar> wanna share this with you http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3347/plain/
[04:06] <Shankar> wanna share this with you http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3347/plain/
[04:07] <netG> hi
[04:07] <Pici> okay....
[04:07] <lounge> xtknight, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3350/  - sorry - i not as quick as you... ---practising though ;)
[04:07] <xtknight> lounge: foo2zjs.c:60:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
[04:07] <xtknight> lounge: there's your problem
[04:07] <netG> does anyone here knows a software for cataloging CD/DVDs?
[04:07] <genii> Luc1 I got ghosted but am returned
[04:08] <lounge> i saw it - at the beginning... but ahy - what does that mean? should I create that dir?
[04:08] <genii> Luc1 to reiterate what may not have been sent:
[04:08] <genii> Luc1 OK, then the method would be to make the Smart Boot Manager floppy from http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/download.html and then continue the install from the cdrom
[04:08] <xtknight> lounge: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:08] <Allans> how to read the bash history of my users?and how to clear the bash history?
[04:08] <apokryphos> !repeat | Shankar
[04:08] <ubotu> Shankar: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:08] <genii> Luc1 If you are interested in a netboot method and the box which you wish to install to has boot from network ability I can also help with that way
[04:09] <Shankar> *i am not asking a question *
[04:09] <Shankar> just wanted to share an article with u
[04:09] <Shankar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/3347/plain/
[04:09] <anAngel> Hello  i cant talk trough skype i can hear the other side but they cant hear me. Any help
[04:09] <Pici> !offtopic | Shankar
[04:09] <ubotu> Shankar: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:09] <tlanfer> The installer asked me whether to use the wired network connection or the wireless. I use WPA, so i chose to use eth, only for the installation. Now i dont even have a network interface for my wireless network, now ath0 oder anything
[04:09] <lounge> xtknight, is this all because I dont have a compiler installed!!?
[04:10] <xtknight> lounge: you don't have a crucial library
[04:10] <xtknight> lounge: you had make but not any of the other development stuff.  try 'make clean && make' after getting build-essential
[04:10] <Luc1> genii: Thanks for interest. I will study your links and I will answer you maybe tomorow.
[04:11] <lounge> xtknight,  will do. and Thank you  :)
[04:11] <genii> Luc1 I shall be here at about the same hour as now
[04:11] <tlanfer> can anyone help me to make my wireless work? with the normal installer it worked out of the box. Now i chose the alternate disk because is understands lvm
[04:11] <Allans> how to read the bash history of my users?and how to clear the bash history?
[04:11] <Luc1> genii: ok
[04:11] <_FeelFree_> !msg the bot>_feelfree_
[04:12] <ubuntu-wirelesst> succesfully running sweex wireless pci card lw052 with ar2413a atheros chipset ( price 22 euro )
[04:12] <bulmer> Allans: you want to hide em?
[04:12] <bulmer> lolz
[04:12] <ubuntu-wirelesst> on edgy eft 6.10 !
[04:13] <ubuntu-wirelesst> out of the box!
[04:13] <Allans> bulmer:i want to read my user`s bash history and clear
[04:13] <GeneralMotors> hi, anybody know how to install and configure atheros ar5006eg wifi (wpa-psk key) on ubuntu 6.10?
[04:13] <IdleOne> ubuntu-wirelesst: you asking a question or trying to sell something?
[04:13] <bulmer> Allans: why? can you give a good reason?
[04:13] <ubuntu-wirelesst> hehe
[04:13] <ubuntu-wirelesst> just sharing the knowledge best friend
[04:14] <bulmer> ubuntu-wirelesst: make the wpa-psk work next :)
[04:14] <Allans> bulmer:i just want to see what files they install
[04:14] <xtknight> Allans: ~/.bash_history ?
[04:14] <bobdobbs> hello, my main user account will not login, the gui hangs after the password prompt, I created a new user, and it can login, how do I 1) give the new user admin priv. and 2) compare user settings to see what the problem is?
[04:14] <ubuntu-wirelesst> yeah, well its wep over here at the moment
[04:15] <bulmer> bobdobbs: include them in the right group
[04:15] <pbureau> GeneralMotors-  do you have the ndiswrapper drivers loaded? do you have wp_supplicant Installed? do you have the wpa_supplicant.conf file create in your /etc/?
[04:15] <xtknight> bobdobbs: i think the new user already has admin elevation privs through sudo
[04:15] <kosyak> Hi. Have a question: have can i get a root access quickly?
[04:15] <xtknight> kosyak: sudo -i
[04:15] <bobdobbs> new user, bob, cannot use sudo, no password will work for it
[04:15] <Pici> kosyak : sudo -i
[04:15] <GeneralMotors> pbureau: i have only wpa_supplicant installed
[04:15] <kosyak> thanks
[04:16] <xtknight> bobdobbs: then type 'login' and login as your old acct first
[04:16] <ubuntu-wirelesst> updated ubuntu data base...
[04:16] <ubuntu-wirelesst> :P
[04:16] <GeneralMotors> pbureau: i don't have the wpa_supplicant.conf file and ndiswrapper installed
[04:16] <pbureau> GeneralMotors- locate wpa_supplicant and look for the example files, use those to  make a wp_supplicant.conf in your /etc/ and you shoudl be set
[04:16] <bobdobbs> xtnight: old login will not load
[04:16] <ubuntu-wirelesst> wish big vendors would do the same! :)
[04:16] <netG> does anyone here knows a software for cataloging CD/DVDs?
[04:16] <pbureau> GeneralMotors- does lspci see your card? what does iwconfi report ?  what does ifconfig say about your card ?
[04:17] <xtknight> bobdobbs: well 'login' is usually what you can type at the bash terminal to get in as another user.  doesnt seem to be working on ubuntu, however
[04:17] <netG> something like gtktalog
[04:17] <bobdobbs> xtknight, how do I add bob as admin from command?
[04:17] <xtknight> bobdobbs: just login as the old user in one of the virtual terminals.  and then from his account you can add the new one to sudo maybe
[04:17] <incorrect> what is the best way to quota /home ?
[04:17] <GeneralMotors> pbureau: lspci "Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. Unknown device 001c (rev 01)"
[04:17] <xtknight> incorrect: have it on a separate partition ?
[04:17] <bulmer> is there a key combinations that allows a user to stop a "clicked" apps (launched)  by a user? sometime one click is too fast and it launches an intentional app having the mouse hovering over an icon..
[04:18] <GeneralMotors> pbureau: iwconfig  only the eth0
[04:18] <leagris> someone successfully configured OpenVPN between Ubuntu as client and debian testing as server ?
[04:18] <genii> incorrect How many users are in /home ?
[04:18] <incorrect> xtknight, already done that :) how about if i wanted to limit the size to just 100Gb to start with?
[04:18] <bobdobbs> xtknight: I have no idea how to do that
[04:18] <incorrect> genii, loads
[04:18] <pbureau> GeneralMotors- that indicates it doesnt reconise the card, install ndiswrapper, load the driver from windows (*.inf) and do the lspci again it should read AR5006G
[04:18] <GeneralMotors> pbureau: ok
[04:19] <genii> incorrect You can mount with quotas enabled
[04:19] <xtknight> bobdobbs: ok press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get into a virtual terminal.  (F7 brings you back to your desktop).  login as the old user in F1
[04:19] <xtknight> incorrect: no idea
[04:19] <bobdobbs> I can do that, how do I add bob as admin from the command?
[04:19] <kestaz> how to zip file with "zip" ?
[04:19] <xtknight> incorrect: just search for the name of the filesystem and 'quota' in google
[04:19] <kestaz> whole folder ?
[04:20] <xtknight> bobdobbs: that's what i'm not sure about
[04:20] <kestaz> in command line
[04:20] <genii> incorrect It's been a while since I had to do this quota enforcing. But you may want to "man edquota" it will gibve you some ideas
[04:21] <xtknight> bobdobbs: found it.  ok type this "sudo addgroup newuser admin"
[04:21] <bobdobbs> !usermod
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usermod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <bobdobbs> ok
[04:21] <incorrect> thanks
[04:21] <incorrect> i found a useful howto on gentoo forums
[04:21] <bobdobbs> thank you
[04:21] <bulmer> is there a key combinations that allows a user to stop a "clicked" apps (launched)  by a user? sometime one click is too fast and it launches an intentional app having the mouse hovering over an icon..
[04:23] <genii> ctrl-c
[04:24] <_Bianca_> can anyone say how to make a root in ubuntu?
[04:24] <genii> (if the app in question is current focus)
[04:24] <bulmer> nah, that didnt work just tried, clicked on firefox...
[04:24] <xtknight> !root | _Bianca_
[04:24] <ubotu> _Bianca_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:24] <_Bianca_> thanks
[04:25] <bulmer> genii not even focused yet, you know sometimes the click is too fast to catch, and it attempts to launch an apps
[04:25] <AzMoo> lspci should pick up a network card even if there's no driver installed in the kernel, shouldn't it?
[04:25] <pbureau> AzMoo- sure if it is not an usb device
[04:26] <_Bianca_> heh sudo is not working
[04:26] <Shane-S> the "LAMP" server with ubuntu, has GD packaged with PHP doesn't it?
[04:26] <AzMoo> pbureau, damn. Any ideas why it wouldn't be showing up? It's an rtl8139, built into the mobo.
[04:26] <apokryphos> !doesn't work
[04:26] <ubotu> Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)
[04:26] <xtknight> _Bianca_: see "how to enable a traditional root"
[04:26] <_Bianca_> haha
[04:26] <pbureau> AzMoo- check dmseg to see it may tell you
[04:26] <AzMoo> pbureau, already checked. Nothing about ethernet in there at all.
[04:27] <pbureau> AzMoo- hang on a sec
[04:27] <_Bianca_> hm
[04:28] <kosyak> Can i get a root access without "sudo -i" ?
[04:28] <genii> Shane-S To see what capabilities your PHP has create a file containing only: <?php phpinfo() ?> and save it with php extension on /var/www then browse to it
[04:28] <pbureau> AzMoo- rtl8139 is a winmodem type card, wont work under linux
[04:28] <AzMoo> son of a bitch
[04:28] <Pici> !ohmy
[04:28] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:28] <warlocky> how to exit 'vi' ?
[04:28] <GeneralMotors> pbureau: i've installed the ndiswrapper and loaded the driver (inf) and it's lspci says "Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. Unknown device 001c (rev 01)" but iwconfig says now "wlan0     IEEE 802.11b  ESSID:off/any ..."
[04:29] <genii> 8139 works fine with driver: 8139too
[04:29] <xtknight> warlocky: press escape and then type ":q" if you don't want to save
[04:29] <Shane-S> genii: I know its not there, cause my scripts don't work, was just curious if I needed to compile/install it, or if it already was and I just needed a php.ini line
[04:29] <genii> warlocky hit esc twice then put :q
[04:29] <Shane-S> I found a guide online now, ty
[04:29] <kosyak> Pici, Is there other way to get root ("without sudo -i typing") ?
[04:30] <xtknight> kosyak: enable the traditional root account
[04:30] <xtknight> !root | kosyak
[04:30] <ubotu> kosyak: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:30] <_Bianca_> To enable the root account (i.e. set a password) use:
[04:30] <_Bianca_> sudo passwd root
[04:30] <_Bianca_> this?
[04:30] <xtknight> yeah
[04:31] <apokryphos> _Bianca_: why do you think you need to enable one?
[04:31] <genii> just sudo passwd also works
[04:31] <AzMoo> genii, where do I get the 8139too driver?
[04:31] <esaym> in gimp how would I make a background tranparent?
[04:31] <_Bianca_> because when I try sudo its not working
[04:31] <_Bianca_> nothing
[04:31] <genii> AzMoo it is part of the standard driver set
[04:31] <apokryphos> _Bianca_: then obviously that command won't work
[04:31] <apokryphos> _Bianca_: have you been messing with the sudoers file?
[04:32] <AzMoo> genii, so I just load it as a module?
[04:32] <bobdobbs> hello, I had to add a new user, and there is no sound now for the new user, how do I fiux this?
[04:32] <tonyyarusso> esaym: Right click, layer, add alpha channel; right-click, layer, add color to alpha, iirc
[04:32] <xtknight> bobdobbs: add the user to the 'audio' group perhaps
[04:32] <_Bianca_> hm
[04:32] <pbureau> GeneralMotors- humm. hang on let me think
[04:32] <_Bianca_> sudoers
[04:32] <_Bianca_> huh
[04:32] <genii> AzMoo usually, yes. If you wish to load it every boot put the name in /etc/modules
[04:32] <esaym> thank you tonyyarusso let me see
[04:32] <GeneralMotors> pbureau: ok
[04:32] <apokryphos> _Bianca_: please expand on "not working"
[04:32] <_Bianca_> Im new at it
[04:32] <_Bianca_> so I forgot about it.
[04:32] <apokryphos> _Bianca_: when you type sudo ls, what happens?
[04:33] <The_Linux_Lich> hi
[04:33] <bobdobbs> already a member
[04:34] <The_Linux_Lich> does someone knows how can I configure 2 ADSL connections to be on the same IP
[04:34] <_Bianca_> sudo ls
[04:34] <_Bianca_> nothing
[04:34] <The_Linux_Lich> I mean, when one of the routers fail, another takes its job
[04:34] <bauer77> no Linux
[04:34] <hamre__> what more do i need to get online through my wireless ap? "ifconfig ath0 down", "wlanconfig ath0 destroy", "wlanconfig ath0 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode sta", "iwconfig ath0 ap any rate auto channel 11 essid Nina key restricted B3C1E4D3D1", "macchanger -m 00:15:02:07:15:AF ath0", "ifconfig ath0 up" and "dhclient ath0"? dhclient gives me ip <IP_ADDRESS> and sets my dns to <IP_ADDRESS>. but i can't ping google, or <IP_ADDRESS> for that matter.
[04:35] <hamre__> i tried putting a gateway <IP_ADDRESS> too in /etc/network/interfaces (ubuntu), but there was already an entry (<IP_ADDRESS> gateway <IP_ADDRESS>) there that i didn't know how to remove. i'm not even sure if this is relevant.
[04:35] <apokryphos> _Bianca_: nothing, as in, no output at ALL?
[04:35] <_Bianca_> nothing
[04:35] <_Bianca_> at all
[04:35] <jriffle> anyone here familiar with kernel compiling errors ?
[04:35] <esaym> it worked tonyyarusso thank you
[04:35] <genii> Well, in root ~ there is no contents so that makes perfect sense
[04:35] <SilenceGold> you can't
[04:35] <apokryphos> _Bianca_: sudo echo 'hello'?
[04:35] <tonyyarusso> esaym: cool
[04:35] <AzMoo> modprobe 8139too returns nothing, and /var/log/messages shows only the name of the driver and no errors, but my interface isn't there :(
[04:35] <bulmer> hamre__: you need to make sure the gateway is working
[04:36] <bobdobbs> well, moving on, how do I compare user settings to find out why the system would hang at loging for a particular user and not the other???
[04:36] <_Bianca_> heh
[04:36] <_Bianca_> nothing works
[04:36] <genii> AzMoo ! OK lemme look something up
[04:36] <apokryphos> _Bianca_: it gives no output?
[04:36] <_Bianca_> no
[04:36] <apokryphos> I'm sorry, but that's almost impossible
[04:36] <AzMoo> genii, thanks, I appreciate the help.
[04:36] <apokryphos> _Bianca_: if something was wrong, you would get an error.
[04:36] <_Bianca_> heh
[04:37] <mezza> i'm a new use on Kubuntu since one month. I have a problem for shutdown my computer, I must allways use my PC button manually :\
[04:37] <mezza> * hello
[04:37] <bulmer> AzMoo: you're modprobing a module, are you sure that is the correct name?
[04:37] <jriffle> can someone take a look at this paste and  help me out with this http://rafb.net/p/s1aGif61.html
[04:37] <mezza> someone has in idea?
[04:37] <AzMoo> bulmer, 8139too. It doesn't fail and it seems to recognize everything.
[04:37] <bulmer> mezza: on a command line as root..   shutdown -h now    this will shutdown
[04:37] <AzMoo> bulmer, it just doesn't create the device.
[04:37] <genii> AzMoo It sure shows on my box with:   modprobe -l 813*
[04:38] <bobdobbs> how do I check a user settings from another user account??
[04:38] <_Bianca_> apokrypshos,huh I can do it on my live cd,but not here
[04:38] <mezza> bulmer: sure but I want to use my menu K
[04:38] <AzMoo> genii, yep, it's there, as well as 8139cp.ko
[04:38] <apokryphos> bobdobbs: like?
[04:38] <bulmer> bobdobbs: which settings? start with comparing  /etc/passwd
[04:38] <apokryphos> ubotu: tab | _Bianca_
[04:38] <ubotu> _Bianca_: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[04:38] <_Bianca_> heh
[04:38] <_Bianca_> tab is not working with your nick
[04:38] <_Bianca_> haha
[04:38] <_Bianca_> so problematic
[04:39] <apokryphos> _Bianca_: what happens if you type, in a terminal: echo hello
[04:39] <apokryphos> _Bianca_: it'll work fine if you type it right :P
[04:39] <_Bianca_> types hello
[04:39] <_Bianca_> I did
[04:39] <J_P> hi all
[04:39] <_Bianca_> its ok
[04:39] <bulmer> mezza okay, am not a gui person..so i give you a nice command line.. :)
[04:40] <_Bianca_> how can that be.only echo works
[04:40] <genii> AzMoo Well, my next suggestion would be to put the module options you may know the settings for in the /etc/modules entry. Like irq and address
[04:40] <apokryphos> _Bianca_: you said sudo echo hello didn't work...
[04:40] <J_P> hey all, I install ubuntu, but I would like change the locales, how i do ? For I see locale setup I press "locale" and I see the I don't wnat that locales...
[04:40] <AzMoo> genii, I don't know them. It's not detected in dmesg and lspci doesn't show it.
[04:40] <bulmer> AzMoo: are you sure that is the correct module/driver for your wifi?
[04:40] <apokryphos> _Bianca_: ...and gave no output. Which is still pretty much impossible, like I said.
[04:40] <AzMoo> bulmer, it's not wifi.
[04:40] <_Bianca_> sudo echo hello didnt
[04:40] <_Bianca_> but echo did
[04:41] <bobdobbs> bulmer: I don't know which settings to be sure, it's just my main user account is hanging after the login, the gui just turns into a brown screen and hangs there
[04:41] <hamre__> bulmer: well do you have any suggestions?
[04:41] <bobdobbs> I am so blind in this it hurts
[04:41] <welshbyte> Seveas: can i request an ubuntu member irc cloak thingy?
[04:41] <bulmer> bobdobbs: look into the /etc/passwd, compare the entry for the user you are interested in
[04:42] <bulmer> hamre__: can you paste-bin your netstat -ran result?
[04:42] <AzMoo> genii, nevermind.
[04:42] <Seveas> welshbyte, are you member?
[04:42] <AzMoo> genii, I am clearly unfit to use a computer.
[04:42] <hamre__> it's <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:42] <welshbyte> Seveas: yeah, andy-price on launchpad
[04:42] <mezza> bulmer: it's hard to enter all with my board, I'm not a jung man and studiant. The transition is hard when you come from Windows
[04:42] <hamre__> but that's suppose to be alright
[04:42] <hamre__> according to #linuxhelp
[04:42] <bobdobbs> bulmer: it looks like it's allright, it has the exact same format as the new user
[04:42] <hamre__> no i mean #madwifi
[04:42] <genii> AzMoo Well, as a last resort I might look in the bios to see if it has some settings of irq and so on for the network adapter
[04:43] <AzMoo> genii, the device was disabled in bios ;)
[04:43] <mezza> someone use the existing GUI?
[04:43] <genii> AzMoo LOL
[04:43] <chx> hi. Whom should I talk to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/drupal regarding this package?
[04:43] <cokeslut> you tell me
[04:43] <chx> oh it's universe. sorry.
[04:43] <_Bianca_> heh
[04:43] <Seveas> welshbyte, I requested one for you, should be set up soon\
[04:44] <welshbyte> Seveas: many thanks
[04:44] <bulmer> bobdobbs: next is to get into their home directory and compare their files and configurations
[04:44] <bobdobbs> bulmer: ok this is a huge difference
[04:44] <lounge> xtknight, dont suppose i could pick your brains again, could i? how r u on printers?
[04:44] <AzMoo> genii, sorry for the waste of time. Works great now ;)
[04:45] <genii> AzMoo NP, it's all a learning experience :)
[04:45] <bulmer> AzMoo: dont get discourage, we've been there before.. :)
[04:46] <Allans> how to kick user?
[04:46] <AzMoo> bulmer, Oh, I'm not discouraged. I've been playing with linux for years. It's just frustrating to do stupid things like that.
[04:46] <Allans> not deleting him/her
[04:46] <bobdobbs> bulmer:where to start?
[04:46] <Allans> i just want to kick the user
[04:46] <bobdobbs> ((sigh))
[04:47] <genii> kill the root tty or equivelent they are using
[04:47] <bulmer> bobdobbs: you already know which to compare, make them look the same? cept for password off course
[04:48] <bobdobbs> bulmer: everything in there?
[04:48] <gh0st> hello, what's the command to check disks for errors?
[04:48] <variant> gh0st: badblocks
[04:48] <bobdobbs> is there anything specific in the home folder I should be looking at?
[04:48] <bulmer> Allans: you can see via who and then kill
[04:49] <bulmer> bobdobbs: i would not do it your way..but keep on trying..you're impatient
[04:49] <variant> Allans: less /home/username/.bash_history
[04:49] <bobdobbs> bulmer: what would you do?
[04:49] <gh0st> variant: how would i do that for /dev/hda1 for ex?
[04:49] <variant> Allans: rm /home/username/.bash_history
[04:49] <bulmer> bobdobbs: my trade secrets..lolz
[04:50] <variant> gh0st: it tells you in "man badblocks" it's quite simple
[04:50] <surface> did png2ico in ubuntu repo?
[04:50] <surface> couldn't managed to find it
[04:50] <gh0st> variant: could you give me the command please? that would be nice
[04:50] <bobdobbs> bulmer: I mean if you had a user that would not login, the screen freezes up and never goes past login, what would you check?
[04:50] <variant> gh0st: yes, the command is "man badblocks" if you had typed it you would know what to do by now..
[04:50] <torrrr> Where are the confing files for xkb?
[04:51] <bulmer> bobdobbs: you already created a user that can log-in, why waste your time on a user that cant?
[04:51] <gh0st> variant: please,why am i asking here? i didn't ask for morals
[04:51] <bobdobbs> bbl, I appreciate the help, have to drop off girl at work
[04:51] <gh0st> or comments like RTFM...
[04:51] <frogzoo> gh0st: variant: badblocks is not required for IDE drives
[04:51] <bulmer> gh0st: RTFM...lolz
[04:51] <intercool> my ../cpufreq/scaling_max_freq is 1667000 but my cpuinfo_max_freq is 2000000 ? and I cannot change the max_freq? so it never scales to 100% only 87%
[04:51] <bobdobbs> bulmer: I need alot of stuff in that account, would like to know what went wrong
[04:51] <bobdobbs> bbl
[04:51] <gh0st> frogzoo: i have a sata one
[04:51] <intercool> anyone have this problem
[04:52] <frogzoo> gh0st: same deal - badblocks are automatically mapped out
[04:52] <variant> frogzoo: how do you work that out?
[04:52] <gh0st> frogzoo: could give the command for the sata drive /dev/sda2
[04:52] <variant> frogzoo: I think you should read man badblocks too...
[04:52] <gh0st> frogzoo: ok, so how can i do a disk check? (look for errors, repair, etc...)
[04:52] <bulmer> gh0st: not to discourage you, it seems so many are having problems with SATA hd..dont know why
[04:52] <frogzoo> variant: badblocks are entirely managed by the controller, it's best not to muck about with them
[04:52] <gh0st> bulmer: well i don't :-)
[04:53] <gh0st> till now
[04:53] <ShadowX> whats a good DVD ripper?
[04:53] <tijn> dvdrip
[04:53] <tijn> and acidrip
[04:53] <gh0st> as always, question ARE NEVER ANSWERED here, only stupid comments like rtfm are thrown, sad
[04:53] <Pici> gh0st : you mean fsck?
[04:53] <Pici> okay then.
[04:54] <variant> frogzoo: thats not nessasarily true..
[04:54] <variant> gh0st: go way you lazy so and so..
[04:54] <gh0st> Pici: no, i was looking for the command which is executed, each 30 reboots (you know where it checks the filesystem for errors, continous, etc...)
[04:54] <Pici> gh0st : I'm pretty sure thats fsck... but I could be wrong
[04:55] <_Andrew> Diskcheck?
[04:55] <variant> gh0st: why didn't you state the real questoin then instead of asking what you think?
[04:55] <variant> gh0st: if you had saidthat in the first place we would have told you, you are a lazy @%$ that doesn't deserve help in any way
[04:55] <gh0st> yes but diskcheck is finished after 3 seconds
[04:55] <ShadowX> can either of those rippers rip a PS2 image?
[04:56] <gh0st> variant: if you ask too specific questions here, you NEVER get the answer, that i learned
[04:56] <surface> cannot get at repo? png2ico
[04:56] <apokryphos> ....or just use the gimp
[04:56] <variant> gh0st: then why was the first question you asked a very specific one? "what is teh command to check disk for badblocks"
[04:56] <_Andrew> Well it is a general channel I guess
[04:56] <yellow> hey guys, is sync-kde the only alternative to activesync ? does it work well ?
[04:57] <apokryphos> hm, actually, perhaps you still need to convert them after
[04:57] <gh0st> variant: i said  what's the command to check disks for errors?
[04:57] <variant> gh0st: yeah, fsck checks file systems not disks
[04:57] <_Andrew> fsck (8)             - check and repair a Linux file system
[04:57] <Pici> !offtopic | variant gh0st
[04:57] <ubotu> variant gh0st: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:57] <_Andrew> this one?
[04:57] <persen> How can i change my screen resolution ? I added "1600x1200" to the default depth modes line in xorg.conf but i get only the same options.
[04:57] <gh0st> which is less specific than "what's the command to check the disk for errors, corrupted files, like ubuntu is doing every 30 reboot automatically"
[04:58] <Pici> !fixres | try this persen
[04:58] <ubotu> try this persen: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:58] <variant> gh0st: /ignore
[04:58] <rulus> hi, I have a question: how can I get rid of the ftp-folders on my desktop (gnome) without unmounting them?
[04:58] <gh0st> variant: so the command at each 30 reboot is fsck, right?
[04:58] <variant> rulus: rm ~/Desktop/foldername
[04:58] <rulus> i'll try that
[04:59] <ShadowX> well guys, Im off for a bit. gotta take my dad to the doctor bbl
[04:59] <tristan_> how do I configure my printer ?
[04:59] <variant> !cups | tristan_
[04:59] <ubotu> tristan_: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:59] <_Andrew> Why do you need it Ghost?
[04:59] <tristan_> ah, Admin->printing
[05:00] <rulus> variant: doesn't work, the folders are not actually folder, if you understand what I mean
[05:00] <gh0st> variant: you are the typical unsocial arrogant geek. be more open-minded and respect the newbies too
[05:01] <_Andrew> You could try renaming them to ".name" maybe that'll hide them in gnome
[05:01] <whaq> Is there a way to 'upgrade' or rather 'migrate' a sarge box to ubuntu?
[05:01] <rulus> _Andrew: trying that now
[05:01] <variant> rulus: what kind of folder are they?
[05:02] <variant> rulus: pastebin ls -al ~/Desktop
[05:02] <rulus> ftp-folders, created by Places > Connect to server
[05:02] <variant> whaq: yeah It can be done but is unsupported
[05:02] <variant> rulus: I see
[05:02] <rulus> I can't rename them either
[05:02] <variant> rulus: sorry, dunno.. beond hideing them but they will probably be re-created
[05:02] <_Andrew> :(
[05:02] <whaq> variant: know of good documents for that?
[05:03] <rulus> variant: no problem
[05:03] <variant> rulus: gconf-editor might have a key that you can alter
[05:03] <whaq> variant: or the keywords so i can search them
[05:03] <rulus> variant: I tried that, don't see an option to hide them
[05:03] <tenco> hi
[05:03] <tenco> is there a way to enable gnome session support for firefox?
[05:04] <bkudria> can someone help me install a package?  i'm trying to install libfox1.2c2, but it complains that it depends on libcupsys2-gnutls10 (>= 1.1.23-1) .  when i try to install that, it tells me its already installed: "libcupsys2 is already the newest version."  what can i do?
[05:04] <variant> whaq: sorry, i dunno, you could try just changeing the sources.list to ubuntu ones and running apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade but I don't know if it will owrk ok
[05:04] <Pici> whaq : you'd want to put the ubuntu repositories into your apt sources and then run a apt-get dist upgrade.  But it probably wont work without causing problems, and its not going to be a quick troubleshoot either
[05:05] <aciddrops> the 64bit iso didnt work with my video card
[05:05] <variant> whaq: I think it is ill-advised at best, but if your prepared to try it then go ahead.. backup your stuff first
[05:05] <aciddrops> it was all messed up
[05:05] <Jimboob> hello everyone
[05:05] <alonso> HI!
[05:05] <_Andrew> hi
[05:05] <aciddrops> so i had to edit the xorg.conf to get it installed
[05:05] <bauer77> does anyone know why I run Terminal Server Client it says  reconnect in 30 seconds, but does not actually connect at all in the first place?
[05:05] <Pici> !english | alonso
[05:05] <ubotu> alonso: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[05:06] <Jimboob> Im planing to switch from windows to linux but i really use this puter for multimedia development, ie. music, videos, and burning cd's/dvd's will this be a problem with ubuntu?
[05:07] <whaq> variant: yeah.. i'm planning to reinstall my box anyhow. sarge is totally lacking in supporting the applications (and versions) that i care for.
[05:07] <tenco> is there a way to enable gnome session support for firefox?
[05:08] <whaq> Jimboob: look into multibooting or running vmware for the 'migration period'..
[05:08] <aciddrops> the default nvidia driver from the installation cd didnt work. i had to edit the xorg.conf file to use vesa
[05:08] <_Andrew> Jimboob: There are alternative software, you should try it out before completely switching
[05:08] <lounge> anyone knoe why a printer driver may not work? foo2zjs on an hp1018 - i've been here for 3 hours - please help someone... :(
[05:08] <Jimboob> ya i know about that but i thought id ask before tryin anything... im really busy with work :(
[05:09] <Gorgapor> I'm having trouble with my chinese text being in two different fonts at the same time
[05:09] <usamahashimi> hi everyone
[05:09] <Led-Hed> how can I allow a standard user to use the 'halt -p' command without being root?
[05:10] <whaq> jimboob: do make a note that there's "work", "home" and "countless hours of computer tinkering" involved here ;) choose wisely and plan as necessary..
[05:10] <usamahashimi> during installation of xfce, it gives error "checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.6.0... not found" apt is not finding it, how can i install it?
[05:11] <CoolCubix> Hello, I was asking if there was a way to use a touchpad (where moving finger gets moving cursor from place where it already is) as a tablet (where a point on the device matches a point on the screen) ?
[05:11] <apokryphos> usamahashimi: did you sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ?
[05:11] <Jimboob> see all i need is the ability to view/listen to mp3, xvid,dvix, and burn them to disk. I can accomplish this on a windows box but im tired of all the "dirtyness" that comes with windows :(
[05:11] <usamahashimi> apokryphos: no
[05:11] <genii> usamahashimi: Install the -dev version
[05:11] <Ferret> Led-Hed: You could change the permissions on the halt program in such a way that whenever a user who is in a particular group runs halt (in any way), halt thinks they're root
[05:11] <AzMoo> Jimboob, ubuntu can handle that fine.
[05:11] <whaq> Jimboob: those are considered to be 'basic' multimedia functions.. should be no problem.
[05:12] <apokryphos> usamahashimi: try that
[05:12] <usamahashimi> genii: how, whats the exact name
[05:12] <crazy_penguin> good afternoon
[05:12] <usamahashimi> apokryphos: lemme try
[05:12] <Jimboob> oh ok :)
[05:12] <aciddrops> i thijnk its nice that vesa tvout works automatically but nivida tv out doesnt work at all
[05:12] <Jimboob> hmmm whatelse do i need....
[05:12] <genii> usamahashimi: 1 moment I will find it
[05:12] <lounge> what is the system log file called?
[05:13] <AzMoo> lounge, /var/log/messages
[05:13] <tenco> someone using gnome-session manager here?
[05:13] <lounge> thanks AzMoo
[05:13] <Ferret> Led-Hed: Or alternatively you could configure sudo to let certain users or certain groups run halt -p (and only that) by typing 'sudo halt -p'
[05:13] <usamahashimi> genii: ok
[05:13] <usamahashimi> apokryphos: i cant install it, i am on dialup
[05:14] <Jimboob> do i need any spacific programs to do all those thing or does ubuntu have what i need for listening and viewing and burning?
[05:14] <Led-Hed> Ferret: if I used the sudo method,  would it require a password?
[05:14] <fbis> anyone here on the dev team for feisty fawn?
[05:14] <IdleOne> !mp3 > Jimboob
[05:14] <josue_m> hi all,  I defined a NFS share according the docs this way: http://rafb.net/p/3aqBg214.html , on the client I got this error http://rafb.net/p/xlU2Wb62.html  , any idea?
[05:14] <Ferret> Led-Hed: Optional
[05:14] <fbis> got a but to report but I'm a newb
[05:14] <IdleOne> fbis: #ubuntu+1
[05:14] <Led-Hed> Ferret: thanks.
[05:15] <aciddrops> how do we make ubuntu blow the hell out of everything?
[05:15] <Ferret> Led-Hed: I can't remember the exact syntax needed, but it should be pretty easy to look up. :)
[05:15] <Jimboob> !mp3
[05:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:15] <holyduck> it already does+
[05:15] <usamahashimi> !libgtk+
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libgtk+ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:15] <usamahashimi> !gtk+
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtk+ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:15] <whonicca> are there any newbie friendly guides on compiling your own kernel on edgy?
[05:16] <IdleOne> !kernel > whonicca
[05:16] <apokryphos> !msgthebot | usamahashimi
[05:16] <ubotu> usamahashimi: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:16] <Jimboob> !video
[05:16] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[05:16] <Wowbagger> Hello. I need help.
[05:16] <whonicca> thanks
[05:16] <IdleOne> Wowbagger: with?
[05:16] <facugaich> !justask | Wowbagger
[05:16] <ubotu> Wowbagger: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:16] <Jimboob> !burning
[05:16] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[05:17] <Jimboob> lol i love these help triggers :)
[05:17] <andre_> hey guys, I'm trying to get my 5.1 surround sound working on an A8N-SLI premium onboard sound.  can anyone point me in the right direction?
[05:17] <AzMoo> !msgthebot | Jimboob
[05:17] <ubotu> Jimboob: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[05:17] <AzMoo> ;)
[05:17] <frojnd> how can I make file: mkdev.sh
[05:17] <andre_> !help\
[05:17] <andre_> !help
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about help\ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:17] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:17] <andre_> !bot
[05:18] <Jimboob> sorry didnt mean to flood the bot.... really do like it :)
[05:18] <frojnd> how can I make mkdev.sh, if I make mkdev.sh it says: make: *** No rule to make target `mkdev.sh'.  Stop.
[05:18] <frojnd> I am trying to install lm-sensors
[05:18] <genii> libgtk2.0-dev
[05:18] <bkudria> uh oh, i remember this
[05:18] <Wowbagger> I want to switch over to ubuntu, so I booted from the CD to try it out. But my wireless network card didn't work. I tried following the instructions and installing an application called ndiswrapper in order to use the windows drivers, but I couldn't find it on the list of applications.
[05:18] <IdleOne> Jimboob: you didnt flood the bot but it does flood the channel when you do it in here thats why you can use /msg ubotu serchterm
[05:18] <bkudria> frojind: get makedev.sh from the source package
[05:19] <Pici> frojnd : try looking at the INSTALL file that comes with it, you probably aren't running the right command
[05:19] <Jimboob> whats this i here about people rooting linux boxes? i thought this was the safest enviroment?
[05:19] <bkudria> Jimboob: hmm, yoda says, nothing is perfect
[05:19] <IdleOne> Jimboob: nothing is infallable
[05:19] <Jimboob> how can i protect against this?
[05:19] <genii> jail is actually the safest environment ROFL
[05:20] <Pici> Jimboob : thats because its news when it happens on Linux, but just normal day to day stuff whene it happens in Windows
[05:20] <geniusvicks> What file and how should I link to in plugins dir of firefox to get java ?
[05:20] <IdleOne> !java > geniusvicks
[05:20] <Jimboob> how can i protect against this?
[05:21] <IdleOne> genii: jail is real safe if you remove all the murderers and rapists and such
[05:21] <_Bianca_> why when I type a-<tab> it shows  A_N0o0b aalhamad AbeLincoln abo aceZ aciddrops AcidicTadpole adamonline45 adaptr ademan adious Adlai adnans AfterDeath|idle Agrajag aib aimtrainer aipexus aixing AJ_Z0 AL89 Alam_Ubuntu alenax alex-weej Alexc90 AlexLatchford aliasd AlienX alindeman alkalineX Allans alnokta alonso aloril altf2o Alzi2 amachu Amallya Amaranth AmbientMstr anders_home andresmujica Android androxxl AnnaAniston ant30 Anti-Tedd aoupi apecat apokryph
[05:21] <_Bianca_> os archangelpetro arkx arrai arromeo arsen_ artbird309_ asanchez Ash-Fox asmodeos__ aSt3raL Astaroth_ asw Atom- Atomiku atoponce atrus autoklauen avlis axisys AzMoo
[05:21] <lounge> i need help with a printer... badly :(
[05:21] <IdleOne> !firestarter > Jimboob
[05:21] <lounge> Please...????
[05:21] <Atomiku> Hey _Bianca_ dont do that
[05:21] <Amaranth> _Bianca_: arg
[05:21] <_Bianca_> ok
[05:21] <Atomiku> Never ever do that
[05:21] <Atomiku> thanks
[05:21] <arrai> _Bianca_, stfu, son of a bitch!
[05:21] <_Bianca_> okok
[05:21] <Pici> _Bianca_ : you just paged everyone with a-- in their name
[05:21] <_Bianca_> hm
[05:21] <_Bianca_> just wonder why tab is not working
[05:21] <Amaranth> _Bianca_: You just made a _bunch_ a computer beep to let people know someone wanted them
[05:21] <Atomiku> Attack of the A people!
[05:21] <ant30> aaaag
[05:21] <Atomiku> see
[05:22] <Atomiku> lol
[05:22] <_Bianca_> heh
[05:22] <holyduck> it works, but you need to type moreof theyr name
[05:22] <Atomiku> The a's arent very happy D:
[05:22] <Pici> its working, you need to type more of the persons name, until it becomes unique
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> bismark: What in the heck was that....
[05:22] <holyduck> like 2-3 letters
[05:22] <ant30> please java kill me, don't disturb
[05:22] <_Bianca_> hah
[05:22] <geniusvicks> IdleOne, I have installed java including the plugin but it is installed in usr/lib/firefox/plugins, I want the plugin in /media/hda4/firefox/plugins
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> bismark: Sorry, no you.
[05:22] <lounge> the printer just doesn't print, i have install ed the drivers... uninstalled them, installed them compiled them from different sources... loads of things - it has to be something obvious...
[05:22] <_Bianca_> so all as watch on screen
[05:22] <Wowbagger> So.. can anyone help me out?
[05:22] <_Bianca_> hah
[05:22] <_Bianca_> but when you type tab,can you choose name? I cant
[05:22] <_Bianca_> nu i den
[05:23] <Pici> _Bianca_ : just continue typing and press tab again, its just telling you that you havent found a unique match yet
[05:23] <IdleOne> _Bianca_: type the first couple letters of the name then you can hit tab again and it will cycle through the names
[05:23] <hamre__> _Bianca_: you speak norwegian?
[05:23] <Jimboob> what about file serving through irc? does xchat have its own fileserver? or is this not allowed to be discussed here?
[05:24] <geniusvicks> I have installed java including the plugin but it is installed in usr/lib/firefox/plugins, I want the plugin in /media/hda4/firefox/plugins
[05:24] <_Bianca_> hamre nope
[05:24] <_Bianca_> ok ok thanks for help people
[05:24] <IdleOne> Jimboob: xchat.org/plugins and search but xchat doesnt have a "good" fileserver as of yet...you can make one :)
[05:24] <_Bianca_> Atomiku, like now
[05:24] <_Bianca_> I got it
[05:24] <Atomiku> okay cool
[05:24] <hamre__> 17:22 < _Bianca_> nu i den"a
[05:24] <hamre__> just sounded norwegian
[05:25] <_Bianca_> nope its russian and last letter is finnish
[05:25] <Jimboob> lol ya scripting isnt a smart thing for me :)
[05:25] <_Bianca_> have finnish keyboard
[05:26] <Jimboob> what about kiri and iroffer do those work with xchat and ubuntu?
[05:26] <IdleOne> kiri iroffer? what are they
[05:26] <Jimboob> servers
[05:27] <Jimboob> like an xdcc bot
[05:27] <Wowbagger> I booted from the CD to try out Ubuntu, but my wireless network card didn't work. I tried following the instructions and installing an application called ndiswrapper in order to use the windows drivers, but I couldn't find it on the list of applications. Can anyone help me?
[05:27] <IdleOne> Jimboob: xchat.org has plugins check it out
[05:27] <Wowbagger> I have a Dell Latitude D820 with broadcom wireless adapter.
[05:28] <IdleOne> Jimboob: you can also ask in #xchat
[05:28] <Jimboob> oh ok thanks
[05:28] <riotkittie> Wowbagger: did you try launching it from a terminal
[05:29] <Wowbagger> I'm going to admit that I'm a total newbie with any kind of linux
[05:29] <vpetro> leo__: hello
[05:29] <leo__> hello petro
[05:29] <vpetro> :)
[05:29] <IdleOne> Wowbagger: Applications>Accesorries>Terminal and type ndiswrapper
[05:30] <riotkittie> im not familiar with ndiswrapper  myself but if its a GUI app, try hitting ALT + F2 in GNOME and typing either ndiswrapper or  gksu ndiswrapper in the run dialogue
[05:30] <riotkittie> or, eh, yah, do what IdleOne said :P
[05:31] <intercool> is there a tool for creating packages to the drivers i compile? just like make-kpkg for kernel ?
[05:31] <marinonix> hy
[05:31] <IdleOne> hey
[05:31] <Wowbagger> Okay, I'll try it out. Thanks for the help, I'll probably be back ;)
[05:31] <facugaich> intercool, maybe checkinstall?
[05:31] <marinonix> cemaiface
[05:31] <riotkittie> intercool: i believe checkinstall will make packa
[05:31] <riotkittie> errr im slow :P
[05:31] <intercool> thanks.
[05:32] <HooGLaNDeR> Hello all. Is there a network installation version of ubuntu out there, which will download the needed packages?
[05:32] <intercool> Anyone ever gotten the ipw3945 driver to work when compiling with ubuntu source kernel ?
[05:33] <IdleOne> !netinstall > HooGLaNDeR
[05:34] <gu014> what is the best way to mount a 2nd hardrive in ubuntu? fdisk -l shows it as /dev/hda system is linux?
[05:34] <gu014> gparted does not show it
[05:34] <vit_> hy all
[05:34] <Astaroth_> gu014: doesnt it mount automatically?
[05:35] <vit_> please help
[05:35] <IdleOne> vit_: with?
[05:35] <gu014> Astaroth: it does not
[05:35] <vit_> where to get codecs for films .. and haw to install them
[05:35] <vit_> ?
[05:35] <gu014> Astaroth: it is listed in gparted when i 'switch devices'
[05:35] <apokryphos> vit_: take a look at the FAQ (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions) as linked to in the channel /topic
[05:36] <breedarg> use automatix vit
[05:36] <IdleOne> !dvd | vit_
[05:36] <ubotu> vit_: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:36] <apokryphos> !automatix | breedarg
[05:36] <ubotu> breedarg: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:36] <vit_> thx
[05:36] <vit_> :)
[05:36] <breedarg> u r welcome
[05:36] <IdleOne> vit_: dont use automatix
[05:36] <breedarg> google it ... is very easy
[05:36] <breedarg> why?
[05:36] <IdleOne> !automatix > breedarg
[05:37] <breedarg> im using automatix and it works perfect
[05:37] <xtknight> is there a good programming channel here?
[05:37] <IdleOne> !workforme > breedarg
[05:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about workforme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:37] <IdleOne> !worksforme > breedarg
[05:37] <vit_> what's automatix ?
[05:38] <breedarg> ill send you the link
[05:38] <IdleOne> vit_: it isnt anything you want to use but if you decide to use it you are on your own :/
[05:38] <xtknight> is it really that bad?
[05:38] <apokryphos> !automatix | vit_
[05:38] <ubotu> vit_: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:38] <vit_> i wanna see some just avi  films
[05:38] <apokryphos> xtknight: frequently, yes.
[05:38] <apokryphos> vit_: then check out the FAQ
[05:39] <xtknight> vit_: what codec are they using?
[05:39] <IdleOne> vit_:  use the link that ubotu sent you for adding codecs
[05:39] <breedarg> with automatix you can install the codecs with just one click
[05:39] <bicbozi> use gxine
[05:39] <VincentMX> hi
[05:39] <breedarg> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Automatix2_on_Ubuntu.2C_Kubuntu.2C_and_Xubuntu
[05:39] <riflerat> hi, anyone experienced installing raid under ubuntu or kubuntu?
[05:39] <breedarg> there vit
[05:39] <riotkittie> installing the codecs with just one click isnt all some have made it out to be
[05:40] <AlienX> someone highlight me?
[05:40] <vit_> I'll try :T
[05:40] <VincentMX> hi
[05:40] <riotkittie> better to read a few docs and do it properly than rely on a script thas proven problematic :P
[05:40] <IdleOne> !ubuntuguide
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntuguide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <breedarg> but it works pefect
[05:40] <xtknight> !worksforme | breedarg
[05:40] <ubotu> breedarg: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:40] <breedarg> grrr i hate this bot ... joz
[05:41] <IdleOne> breedarg: it worked for you but chances are it will break his system and he will be forced to reinstall fresh and probably end up blamming ubuntu and not using ubuntu again so automatix is not recommended and we ask that you dont promote it here
[05:41] <lounge> l me where i can find a printer support room for ubuntu
[05:41] <lounge> ?
[05:42] <IdleOne> !print | lounge
[05:42] <ubotu> lounge: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:42] <bicbozi> my dear friends i have a problem with limewire
[05:42] <riflerat> anyone experienced installing raid1 under ubuntu or kubuntu?
[05:43] <breedarg> Could someone ... syncronize an iPAQ with evoloution?
[05:43] <bicbozi> it doesnt function
[05:44] <breedarg> r u answering me?
[05:44] <IdleOne> no he isnt
[05:44] <IdleOne> bicbozi: #limewire might help you more
[05:45] <pavan> can any one help me on my resolution problem?
[05:45] <bicbozi> thanks
[05:45] <breedarg> Could someone ... syncronize an iPAQ with evoloution?
[05:46] <pavan> my present resolution is 1024 X 768 but i am not able to get it full screen but 800 X 600 resolution gives me full screen how can i solve this problem?
[05:47] <chris_shafto> can ubuntu extract .rar?
[05:47] <breedarg> yeap
[05:47] <breedarg> not by defaut
[05:47] <breedarg> you have to install a library
[05:48] <pavan>  my present resolution is 1024 X 768 but i am not able to get it full screen but 800 X 600 resolution gives me full screen how can i solve this problem?
[05:48] <chris_shafto> how do i install the library
[05:48] <Pici> !rar | chris_shafto
[05:48] <ubotu> chris_shafto: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:48] <breedarg> tthere
[05:49] <breedarg> Could someone ... syncronize an iPAQ with evoloution?
[05:49] <pavan>  my present resolution is 1024 X 768 but i am not able to get it full screen but 800 X 600 resolution gives me full screen how can i solve this problem?
[05:49] <arnnn> sudo gives me error 'username is not in the sudoers file. ' what should I do ?
[05:50] <T-ROK> hello
[05:50] <T-ROK> i need help installing TS
[05:50] <lounge> IdleOne, on that printing thing - ive done everything they all suggest... but still no printing. It puts the page to the queue, then just dissapears into the ether with no printing to show for it!
[05:51] <lounge> IdleOne, and it's been a long time, and a lot of banging my head against the wall
[05:51] <Jowi> arnnn, add the user to the admin group
[05:51] <IdleOne> lounge: the is turboprint ( google it ) but it isnt free
[05:51] <arnnn> Jowi, how can I do that ?
[05:51] <lounge> Hmmm...
[05:51] <IdleOne> lounge: btw if its a canon printer your out of luck :(
[05:52] <lounge> IdleOne, it's hp
[05:52] <Jowi> arnnn, login as a user that's got admin rights. "sudo adduser nameofuser admin"
[05:52] <riotkittie> canons are that bad under linux? :<
[05:52] <IdleOne> then it should just work but I dont have a printer sorry i cant help more..try searching the ubuntu forums for your model
[05:52] <IdleOne> riotkittie: yeah
[05:53] <IdleOne> riotkittie: but turboprint ( not free ) can make them work
[05:53] <NevroPus> is there a program in ubuntu that can be used to format an external disk to NTFS, need to use it on several computers
[05:54] <chris_shafto> need to know how to extract .rar
[05:54] <Tchaka> I have an external hdd, when I plug it on my laptop, Ubuntu mounts it well, but if I want to write files on the hdd, I always need root privilege. How make for a simple user can have all rights on the hdd?
[05:54] <IdleOne> chris_shafto: right click and extract
[05:55] <chris_shafto> archive type not supported
[05:55] <riotkittie> i seem to recall a thread on the forums about getting Canon Pixmas to work with Dapper. i need to look that up at some point.
[05:55] <Pici> !rar | did you look at this guide? chris_shafto
[05:55] <ubotu> did you look at this guide? chris_shafto: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:55] <IdleOne> !rar > chris_shafto check the msg from ubotu
[05:56] <riotkittie> not that i ever print but i am sure the day is going to come when i go "wow. i will die if i do not print this!#!"
[05:56] <IdleOne> Pici: 1 IdleOne: 0
[05:56] <Pici> IdleOne : that was the second time I gave him the !rar ;)
[05:56] <IdleOne> Pici: hehe sometimes it takes a few tries to get it working right lol
[05:56] <ferret_0567__> What are "Backported Updates" in Ubuntu 6.10?
[05:57] <babis85> hello, how could i synchronize a video file with it's subtitles?
[05:57] <ferret_0567__> I think I know, just want to make sure
[05:57] <IdleOne> Ferret:  If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[05:58] <IdleOne> ferret_0567_: ^^^
[05:58] <bicbozi> yo bros i am back with my prob
[05:58] <Pici> ferret_0567__ : not to be confused with security updates, those go in a seperate repository
[05:58] <IdleOne> bicbozi: limewire prob still
[05:58] <bicbozi> in da limewire no answer
[05:59] <bicbozi> what is better limewire or frostwire ?
[05:59] <IdleOne> bicbozi: use azereus or other ubuntu torrent app. check synaptic there are plenty of them
[05:59] <ferret_0567__> Those are updates to software so you can get updates to newer versions of software than ones that came with Ubuntu 6.10?
[06:00] <Pici> ferret_0567__ : Exactly
[06:00] <IdleOne> ferret_0567_: yeah
[06:00] <HymnToLife> Ferret, not exactlyt
[06:00] <Pici> Almost exactly
[06:00] <ferret_0567__> Can you tell me "exactly" please?
[06:00] <HymnToLife> they don't give you newer versions, they fix bugs and/or security flaws in existing ones
[06:00] <IdleOne> sorta kinda exactly but not exactly exactly :P
[06:00] <eternal_p> good morning all..I am trying to get virtualbox to work with my USB devices, as I have been told, I need to give, myself and/or virtual box access to /proc/bus/usb to grab the devices...how am I able to do that (giving it read/write permissions)
[06:01] <ferret_0567__> ok
[06:01] <ferret_0567__> Do you think I should enable that?
[06:01] <metroman> Where can I get the alternate install CD for version 6.10?
[06:01] <HymnToLife> ferret_0567_, definitely
[06:01] <IdleOne> metroman: ubuntu.com
[06:03] <pavan_> i have a Problem with 1024 X 768 resolution it is not full screen where as 800 X 600 is full screen resolution how can i solve this
[06:04] <nikitis> Hey guys, I got a question.  How would I go about getting a program such as "Tilda" to run when ubuntu starts?
[06:04] <ferret_0567__> Boot Up Manager (bum) is a recommended piece of software for 6.10?
[06:04] <HymnToLife> pavan_, what exactly does it do instead of running full screen ?
[06:04] <janoka> sziasztok
[06:05] <ferret_0567__> I used that with Ubuntu 6.06, then got fed up with FC6, then switched back to Ubuntu with version 6.10 of it
[06:05] <pavan_> it is cutting the the screen up to 60% on both left and right sides
[06:06] <variant> !bum
[06:06] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[06:06] <soundray> I want gnome to ignore the mouse movement/clicks for determining idle state (screensaver). Is that possible? Please don't suggest to unplug the mouse ;)
[06:06] <pavan_> HyanToLife, do u understand my problem?
[06:06] <NevroPus> how do I format an external disk to NTFS? need a format I can use both in Linux and Windows
[06:07] <ferret_0567__> Does anybody know why I could be getting errors about ide and hdc (my DVD/CD-RW) drive?
[06:07] <ferret_0567__> It's a laptop
[06:07] <ferret_0567__> Also, no floppy, so I have seen errors about fd0 too
[06:07] <cinnix> how do I add the bottom panel back in gnome? i seem to have removed it
[06:07] <riotkittie> pavan_: err. does your monitor have buttons on it that will allow you to adjust the horizontal size?
[06:07] <variant> soundray: you could make a gnome-screensaver script that stops mouse support when started and enables it again when stopped
[06:07] <soundray> NevroPus: I'd recommend ext3. You can install ext2fsd in Windows to read/write that partition
[06:07] <variant> cinnix: right click the panel and new panel
[06:07] <riotkittie> cinnix: open a prompt and killall gnome-panel
[06:07] <pavan_> yaaaa i have
[06:07] <riotkittie> err nevermind
[06:08] <ferret_0567__> ide: failed opcode was: unknown ... hdc: packet command error: error=0x54 { AbortedCommand LastFailedSense=0x05 }
[06:08] <pavan_> i have adjust it to Max horizontal size
[06:08] <riotkittie> i thought gnome demanded 2 panels ?
[06:08] <NevroPus> ok soundray, but why wont GParted fix it?
[06:08] <cinnix> variant: i mean the whole panel at the bottom is gone
[06:08] <rage_> NevroPus: If you want to use it with linux dont use NTFS.
[06:08] <variant> NevroPus: i agree with soundray, i have used ext2/3 support on a windows box before, it's pretty flawless (appears just as annohter drive)
[06:08] <cinnix> i removed it b accident
[06:08] <soundray> variant: that would disable the mouse once the screensaver is running. But I want the screensaver to start even in the presence of mouse motion...
[06:08] <variant> cinnix: yeah, so create a new one and add the buttons back in
[06:08] <rage_> NevroPus: there is no good write support for NTFS file systems.
[06:09] <riotkittie> feah right clicky on the top panel
[06:09] <aciddrops> hi how do i get flash to work in 64 bit land
[06:09] <variant> soundray: I see.. wouldn't that be annoying if you were browsing hte news on the web or something?
[06:09] <NevroPus> ok, I'll use ext3, but why wont GParted fix it? Is there a bether partition program for ubuntu?
[06:09] <Pici> aciddrops : afaik, you dont
[06:09] <soundray> NevroPus: you need ntfsprogs to make an NTFS in Linux
[06:09] <variant> soundray: I would think that thats hard coded.. if it's written in java I could fix it for you but i don't think it is!
[06:09] <aciddrops> pici someone said you can do it with a script?
[06:09] <pavan_> i have adjust it to Max horizontal size
[06:09] <Pici> aciddrops : I think you can run firefox/flash as a 32 bit app, but then its not under 64
[06:09] <NevroPus> but I get an error when I try ext3/ext2 also
[06:10] <soundray> variant: not as annoying as gnome mistaking every little shake of the table for activity ;)
[06:10] <cinnix> variant: sorry, tired and need my eyes tested, thankyou :)
[06:10] <riotkittie> pavan_: in that case, i have no suggestions. sorry.
[06:10] <variant> NevroPus: gparted only works for the filesystems whose tools are installed
[06:10] <variant> cinnix: np
[06:10] <aciddrops> will 32 bit firefox run on 64bit?
[06:10] <holyduck> yup
[06:10] <soundray> variant: thanks for your help, I'll find a way to live with it.
[06:10] <holyduck> with --force-architecture
[06:11] <pavan_> i have a Problem with 1024 X 768 resolution it is not full screen where as 800 X 600 is full screen resolution how can i solve this
[06:11] <soundray> aciddrops: with a bit of tweaking. Search the forums for Kilz's instructions.
[06:11] <NevroPus> so I need to install a "addon" for gparted to format to ext2/ext3?
[06:11] <pavan_> i have a Problem with 1024 X 768 resolution it is not full screen where as 800 X 600 is full screen resolution how can i solve this
[06:11] <variant> soundray: you on an oil drilling platform or something? (lots of vibration :))
[06:11] <IdleOne> !patience | pavan
[06:11] <ubotu> pavan: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:11] <variant> NevroPus: yes, but it should be allready installed
[06:11] <zyth> pavan, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[06:11] <pavan_> i have a Problem with 1024 X 768 resolution it is not full screen where as 800 X 600 is full screen resolution how can i solve this
[06:11] <soundray> variant: old shaky house, building works going on on the racecourse next door ;)
[06:12] <zyth> select 1024x768 as a resolution
[06:12] <zyth> and dont repeat like that :P
[06:12] <variant> soundray: lol
[06:12] <variant> soundray: use a trackball ;)
[06:12] <pavan_> yaa i have done but that oh Thanx
[06:12] <pavan_> Thanx to all
[06:12] <variant> NevroPus: extfsprogs i think it is called
[06:12] <Balsamic_Chicken> can open office be installed on windows? if so, could someone give the download address, thx
[06:12] <Pici> Balsamic_Chicken : openoffice.org?
[06:13] <riotkittie> openoffice.orf
[06:13] <variant> Balsamic_Chicken: yes, openoffice.org click download
[06:13] <NevroPus> weird. I get the error message: The following operation could not be applied to disk: Format /dev/sda1 as ext2
[06:13] <riotkittie> err org
[06:13] <soundray> variant: I can suspend the mouse from the edge of the desk by the cable. This will shorten the life of the hardware, though ;)
[06:13] <Balsamic_Chicken> variant thx
[06:13] <riotkittie> imagine taht :P
[06:13] <variant> NevroPus: is it mounted?
[06:13] <NevroPus> I have unmounted it
[06:13] <variant> soundray: is it such a big deal? perhaps gconf has some "jitter" option for screensaver
[06:13] <Pici> soundray : turn the monitor off
[06:14] <soundray> variant: no such luck
[06:14] <variant> NevroPus: if you want to format it do it manualy: mkfs.ext2 /dev/sda1
[06:14] <slyfox> Please help. I have a sound problem. Video and mp3 and general sound work fine, but when it comes to skype or Gizmo, the sound has problems. Whenever I make a call, the sound is like when you have 100% cpu usage and are playing an mp3 file, it has this buzzing noise.  I trid both - ALSA and OSS (no idea what
[06:14] <slyfox> they mean though, I am a noob) and both have the same problem. When I look at the cpu usage when making a call, both programs are not using full cpu, they use very little - the normal usage. The sound is still choppy. What is going on?
[06:14] <soundray> Pici: yeah, I will
[06:15] <pavan_> i am not able to have Restart button and shutdown button in Quit menu
[06:15] <variant> slyfox: skype is bs quite frankly.. but your best bet is to ask on skype forums
[06:15] <pavan_> i am using sudo init 0 to shut down
[06:16] <soundray> slyfox: I think you do have full CPU usage. Maybe the system monitor just isn't keeping up.
[06:16] <variant> pavan_: add the logout button to the panel
[06:16] <Lunar_Lamp> pavan, are you using XGL?
[06:16] <variant> pavan_: and you should use sudo shutdown -h now or sudo halt
[06:16] <soundray> slyfox: I think there's a way to select less demanding codecs in skype.
[06:16] <slyfox> soundray: and same with Gizmo?
[06:16] <slyfox> variant: and same with Gizmo?
[06:16] <variant> slyfox: whats gizmo?
[06:16] <soundray> slyfox: sry, don't know about gizmo
[06:17] <slyfox> soundray: http://www.gizmoproject.com/
[06:17] <slyfox> variant: http://www.gizmoproject.com/
[06:19] <andriijas> is there any alternatives to vmware? open source preferable
[06:19] <beasty> andriijas: sure
[06:19] <beasty> :p
[06:19] <variant> andriijas: qemu is quite good
[06:19] <soundray> andriijas: xen, qemu
[06:19] <beasty> parallels :p
[06:19] <Pici> andriijas : qemu, xen, kqemu
[06:19] <soundray> andriijas: bochs
[06:19] <variant> andriijas: you would probably want to use kqemu with it though (kernel module to make it fully virtualised)
[06:20] <variant> andriijas: xen is good to but you can't use it to run windows on linux unless you have a CPU that supports intel VT or AMD pacifica tech
[06:20] <variant> andriijas: most of the core2 duo cpus have intel vt support
[06:20] <soundray> Is anyone running ubuntu in a Parallels VM?
[06:20] <variant> andriijas: xen is also harder to set up thant he others..
[06:20] <rohanrhu> merhaba
[06:21] <rohanrhu> hello
[06:21] <mick666> www.freepenguin.135.it
[06:21] <rohanrhu> Pardus Linux > #pardus
[06:21] <rohanrhu> www.pardus.org.tr/en
[06:21] <IdleOne> trolls
[06:22] <variant> !op yo, bunch of trolls here
[06:22] <variant> !op
[06:22] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[06:22] <riotkittie> lurvly.
[06:22] <variant> man, that !op thing is kidna overkill :)
[06:22] <gnomefreak> variant: ?
[06:22] <andriijas> beasty: variant Pici soundray thx!
[06:22] <nikitis> Can I get some help with Compiz?
[06:22] <variant> gnomefreak: sorry, guy pasting link to some client tracking site..
[06:23] <apokryphos> rohanrhu: please stop that
[06:23] <aciddrops> is ff 2.0 better then flock or ice weasel?
[06:23] <Pici> aciddrops : they're all pretty much the same thing
[06:23] <soundray> !best | aciddrops
[06:23] <ubotu> aciddrops: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[06:23] <aciddrops> hehe thanks
[06:24] <variant> is there a better way to report someone doing something like that than typeing !op ?
[06:24] <variant> like for example, type !badboy and hte nick of hte person in question and have that /msg'd to the ops..
[06:25] <apokryphos> variant: if it's a problematic user in the channel *at the time* then ops is good to call (unless you can see an op that is active)
[06:25] <nikitis> When I install xgl/Compiz following the Ubuntuguide.com's site.  When I run the script "thefuture" as it says to do.  I get an error that says GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is missing.  /nl  Compiz.real: Failed to manage screen: 0 /nl Compiz.real: No manageble screens found on display :0.0  Can anyone tell me what's wrong?
[06:25] <variant> apokryphos: fair enough
[06:25] <VincentMX> how do i get cgi-bin to work in apache2?
[06:25] <gOLdenHaWK3D> Hi all, I am facing a problem in Edgy Eft... It logs me off to the login screen, when I leave my system idle for about 10-15 mins!!! Any help???
[06:26] <IdleOne> !compiz > nikitis
[06:26] <Jowi> nikitis, /j #ubuntu-xgl
[06:26] <Jowi> gOLdenHaWK3D, about at the same time as the screensaver kicks in? try to deactivate it and see if that is the cause for it...
[06:26] <soundray> gOLdenHaWK3D: I guess this would be a screensaver crashing the X server.
[06:26] <gOLdenHaWK3D> ok
[06:27] <soundray> gOLdenHaWK3D: or set it to just blank the screen
[06:27] <gOLdenHaWK3D> oh! i will disable the screensaver, and report in again. Thanx dudes!!!
[06:27] <soundray> gOLdenHaWK3D: want another hint?
[06:27] <gOLdenHaWK3D> sure!
[06:27] <soundray> gOLdenHaWK3D: it could be the powersaving.
[06:28] <variant> the nouveau project looks really promising! I hope it is included instead of the proprietry nvidia drivers
[06:28] <soundray> gOLdenHaWK3D: try 'xset dpms force off' to see if that just blanks the screen as it should, or if it crashes your X
[06:28] <gOLdenHaWK3D> soundray: i checked power options already!!! its set to "never"!!!
[06:28] <apokryphos> variant: promising? Good project, but not very promising so far.
[06:28] <apokryphos> no 3d
[06:28] <soundray> gOLdenHaWK3D: that's wasteful though
[06:28] <variant> apokryphos: there is 3d support, limmited for sure but it's there
[06:29] <gOLdenHaWK3D> soundray: shuld i try it now???
[06:29] <soundray> gOLdenHaWK3D: yes, why not
[06:29] <VincentMX> anybody in here who knows how to get cgi-bin to work in apache2? i've ib installed libapache2-mod-perl2 and php5-cgi
[06:29] <gOLdenHaWK3D> soundray: ok, trying, 1 min!
[06:29] <variant> apokryphos: they seem to be making fastprogress too.. the website isn't updated with the latest developments very often though
[06:30] <Drel3> hello everyone!!!i installed limewire but he doesnt work can someone help me
[06:30] <gumpish> When will the next LTS release happen?
[06:30] <variant> apokryphos: the #nouveau channel is very active (all development discussion very little banter)
[06:30] <gOLdenHaWK3D> soundray: Just a blank screen, and my desktop appeared again when i moved the mouse!
[06:30] <soundray> Drel3: first, run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash' and say no to the question. Then try again.
[06:30] <IdleOne> gumpish: Im guessing 3-5yrs
[06:31] <welshbyte> VincentMX: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/cgi.html
[06:31] <VincentMX> ok
[06:31] <soundray> gOLdenHaWK3D: it must be one or some of the screensavers then. It shouldn't happen if you set "Blank screen only" and reactivate dpms
[06:31] <VincentMX> thnx, welsh
[06:31] <gOLdenHaWK3D> soundray: thanx man! thank you!
[06:32] <gOLdenHaWK3D> soundray: i deactivated screensaver!
[06:32] <soundray> gOLdenHaWK3D: yw
[06:32] <IdleOne> think I want to upgrade to fiesty...should I?
[06:32] <Drel3> thx man!!
[06:33] <soundray> IdleOne: I've installed it on a Mac Pro. Great so far, except no wireless as yet (haven't tried cafuego's package yet)
[06:33] <welshbyte> IdleOne: only if you can live with the possibility of it breaking
[06:33] <IdleOne> welshbyte: worst that can happen is i reinstall 6.10 and configure again lol
[06:34] <soundray> Drel3: limewire expects /bin/sh to link to /bin/bash -- default is /bin/dash on edgy.
[06:34] <Jimb00b> does ubuntu have its own extracter? like for .rar's, .zip, files that have been split and have extentions like .001 does ubuntu need anything for these?
[06:34] <variant> IdleOne: I did a while ago (about 2 weeks) it works pretty flawlessly although thereis a constant risk of it being totaly borked by one of the regular updates
[06:34] <welshbyte> IdleOne: if you have nothing to lose, go right ahead
[06:34] <variant> IdleOne: beryl etc all work.. if you'r on edgy though there are not a whole lot of differences yet.. not really worth the risk
[06:34] <shwag> variant: agreed
[06:35] <welshbyte> IdleOne: #ubuntu+1 for feisty discussion, of course
[06:35] <soundray> Jimb00b: file-roller
[06:35] <jcwinnie> Is this the place to ask a Feisty question?
[06:35] <xtknight> jcwinnie: #ubuntu+1
[06:35] <soundray> jcwinnie: no, go to #ubuntu+1
[06:35] <IdleOne> variant: on Edgy and if there isnt much difference then I'll wait for stable release
[06:35] <IdleOne> variant: and welshbyte ty for the info
[06:35] <variant> IdleOne: np
[06:36] <shwag> how do I turn off the startup msg for screen ?
[06:36] <Jimb00b> file-roller? does that do rar's zip's and others? does it come packaged in ubuntu?
[06:36] <shwag>   /etc/screenrc  #startup_message off
[06:36] <shwag> i see
[06:36] <soundray> Jimb00b: it's part of the default ubuntu desktop. For rar support, you need an additional package
[06:36] <soundray> !rar | Jimb00b
[06:36] <ubotu> Jimb00b: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:37] <jojoman02> !info unrar-free
[06:37] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[06:37] <Jimb00b> ok so what formats does ubuntu reconize and extract then?
[06:37] <Jimb00b> !info unrar-free
[06:37] <|LF-r|mrSmiles> question, is there anyway to upgrade 5.10 to 6.06?
[06:37] <metroman> I'm trying to install Ubuntu but the installation always freezes at 81%, when it is running 32gnome_power_manager.
[06:38] <Jimmey> |LF-r|mrSmiles, replace all instances of "breezy" in /etc/apt/sources.lisdty
[06:38] <Jimmey> with the word "dapper"
[06:38] <jojoman02> jimb00b: zip, tar, gz
[06:38] <Jimmey> Then "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[06:38] <soundray> Jimb00b: you can extract most archive formats. Preferred ones are tar.gz and zip
[06:38] <|LF-r|mrSmiles> is that all?
[06:39] <soundray> Jimb00b: and tar.bz2
[06:39] <soundray> |LF-r|mrSmiles: no
[06:39] <Jimb00b> sometime i get file extensions .001 to .005 i use hjsplit to join it but can ubuntu do it?
[06:39] <soundray> |LF-r|mrSmiles: after that you need to run 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[06:39] <Jimmey> I'm trying to connect to a windows share on <IP_ADDRESS>. The folder is C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\SharedDocs. The shared file is SharedDocs, so to the network, it looks like "\\JANE\ShareDocs". How can I connect to it?
[06:39] <soundray> Jimb00b: you can just cat those together
[06:40] <Jimb00b> cat?
[06:40] <soundray> Jimb00b: try 'man cat'
[06:40] <soundray> !cli | Jimb00b
[06:40] <ubotu> Jimb00b: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:42] <Jimb00b> ok one more question...
[06:42] <Jimb00b> the puter down stairs is link through a router up here and is running winxp can i still be conected with both puters?
[06:42] <codi> hey guys, need a little help installing beryl
[06:43] <codi> i've got the nvidia drivers already running for WoW, so can I just install beryl following the 6.10 instructions?
[06:43] <soundray> Jimb00b: yes, but only if you learn how to spell "computer"
[06:43] <codi> and skip the nvidia driver part?
[06:43] <Jimb00b> computer... better?
[06:43] <Jimb00b> lol
[06:44] <soundray> Jimb00b: well done. Now describe your setup in a little more detail.
[06:44] <codi> or better yet, i already have beryl installed, now i'm about to restart x. if it all goes wrong, how can i switch back to gnome without beryl?
[06:45] <jojoman02> does unrar for linux support multiple rar files .r00 .r01 .r02 etc??
[06:45] <Tux> Yeah
[06:45] <jojoman02> Tux: was that yeah to my question?
[06:45] <Jimb00b> im running two winxp boxes one upstairs one downstairs connected through a dlink router. im planning on changing this computer :) to ubuntu and leaving the one downstairs as is will the both still function with my router?
[06:45] <Tux> Yes
[06:45] <soundray> Jimb00b: yes, that should be easy.
[06:46] <Tux> Yes jojoman02
[06:46] <Jimb00b> i can still setup through browser?
[06:46] <Triforce> yes
[06:46] <soundray> Jimb00b: yes, at least I haven't heard of any problems with D-Link routers in that respect.
[06:46] <|LF-r|mrSmiles> i need more help. my hard drive has 3 partitions 1-windows xp 2-want ubuntu 3-general storage, how can i install ubuntu to the second one
[06:47] <Jimb00b> excellent :)
[06:47] <Jimmey> |LF-r|mrSmiles, use the installer? You can delete the partition that's already there, and the installer will use the space freed
[06:47] <Triforce> Select "Manually set up partitions"
[06:48] <|LF-r|mrSmiles> ok thanks for all the great help
[06:49] <yellow> hey guys, is sync-kde the only alternative to activesync ? does it work well ?
[06:49] <tausen> hey - does anyone know anybody who has a MacBook 2GHz?
[06:49] <silberruecken> Helo
[06:50] <soundray> yellow: you can use multisync instead of the kde frontent, but the backend will still be synce. I found it a bit painful to setup and am not using it routinely
[06:50] <yellow> ok i'll check it out
[06:50] <sebsebseb> I have had Windows 2000 Pro and so on before in virtual machine.
[06:50] <sebsebseb> VMware player
[06:50] <yellow> Thanks soundray for the head up
[06:50] <sebsebseb> and VMware server
[06:50] <webben> Does anyone know how to get Focus to work in a vaguely consistent manner, such that, for example, you can open gvim and click inside another window, and thus both activate that window and bring it to the forefront.
[06:51] <soundray> yellow: there is a thread on the ubuntu forums that finally helped me make it work at all.
[06:51] <sebsebseb> however now I am thinking about putting XP Home in Edgy in a virtual machine or emulater. and up for trying something new I guess
[06:51] <sebsebseb> and I would rather use open source than cloused source VMware stuff
[06:51] <tausen> I'm having problems with keybindings
[06:51] <torrrrr> hi
[06:51] <yellow> yeah, me too sebsebseb
[06:51] <soundray> yellow: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30936
[06:51] <sebsebseb> ,but which is the best  for XP Home in Edgy?  VMware player,  heck no it don't do full screen.  so  VMware Server,  XEN or QEMU or something else?
[06:52] <torrrrr> I changed my eth0 IP and lost the ability to use the DNS. Please help
[06:52] <tausen> anybody know how to configure keyboard for MacBook?
[06:52] <newz2000> Mouse stopped working, dmesg says (repeatedly): [17190599.520000]  hub 1-0:1.0: connect-debounce failed, port 1 disabled
[06:52] <newz2000> This has been happening for a couple weeks now, and it's growing more frequent. It's not isolated to the mouse, either... any USB device.
[06:52] <newz2000> Any ideas what's happening?
[06:52] <torrrrr> how can I make the resolv.conf go to the new IP
[06:52] <torrrrr> ?
[06:52] <soundray> webben: want you want is called click-to-focus and autoraise in the unix world :)
[06:53] <Ndut2> hi guys
[06:53] <soundray> newz2000: could it be a faulty hub or USB cable?
[06:53] <yellow> sebsebseb, i just want to sync my phone with dapper
[06:53] <yellow> :)
[06:53] <webben> soundray, Then why does it work like that sometimes and not other times.
[06:53] <yellow> so i can put music on it
[06:53] <soundray> webben: are you on gnome?
[06:53] <Jimb00b> i noticed there are all these weird named ubuntus but i only have 6.10 which should i get?
[06:53] <newz2000> soundray: I don't think it's a hub, cause it happens on the hub or the laptops built in ports, since its several devices, I doubt a cable
[06:54] <webben> soundray, yeah
[06:54] <webben> soundray, switching between metacity and beryl depending on how infuriated I get
[06:54] <newz2000> Jimb00b: you've got the right one
[06:54] <Jimb00b> whats breezey ect ???
[06:54] <tausen> no help here? - okay... have fun !
[06:54] <webben> I've played with just about every click to focus option I can find in gconf and beryl settings.
[06:54] <torrrrr> strange the changes I made didn't change /etc/network/interfaces
[06:55] <soundray> webben: oh, if you're switching between wm's I don't know how you'd get it to be consistent.
[06:55] <webben> No matter what way I configure things behaviour never seems terribly consistent.
[06:55] <webben> soundray, not consistent /between/ wm's
[06:55] <webben> consistent with either
[06:55] <newz2000> Jimb00b: Breezy is the development code name for an older version
[06:55] <soundray> webben: why not configure different users for different wms?
[06:55] <Stormx2> Yo. Kinda been looking for a while. Can someone suggest an app I can feed a formula, give it a range of values to test, and it'll spit out a graph?
[06:55] <yellow> thanks soundray and sebsebseb :)
[06:55] <Jimb00b> so which one to i have? whats edgy and others?
[06:55] <yellow> i'll try to see if xen works
[06:55] <yellow> :)
[06:56] <webben> soundray, Sorry I'm not being clear. I'll use either wm. So long as it is consistent with itself.
[06:56] <webben> soundray, see this http://gnomesupport.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12034 bug
[06:56] <_archangel> hi, what is the package name for the apache web server ?
[06:56] <Stormx2> _archangel: apache2
[06:56] <webben> part of the problem I suspect is beryl's unreliability
[06:56] <_archangel> lol thx
[06:56] <Stormx2> I think...
[06:57] <soundray> webben: sry, you are clearly better informed than I am... Have you considered using focus-follows-mouse & no autoraise and just getting used to it? It has many advantages for power users...
[06:58] <Ndut2> any one here
[06:58] <Ndut2> using xubuntu ?
[06:58] <webben> soundray, I did experiment with that. It drove to me to distraction to be honest. ;)
[06:59] <webben> soundray, but thanks for the suggestion :)
[06:59] <Jimmey> I need help connecting to a Windows share
[06:59] <Jimb00b> so which one do i have? whats edgy and others? I've also seen ones called ubuntu satanic adition ect.
[06:59] <soundray> webben: yw ;)  Next time I'll try and be a real help.
[07:00] <Pici> Jimb00b : what?
[07:00] <soundray> Jimb00b: you said you have 6.10. That's also called Edgy Eft, or edgy for short
[07:00] <newz2000> Jimb00b: Ubuntu is made to be easy to create a derivative of, so people frequently create clones of Ubuntu that have minor or even major customization.
[07:00] <setuid> How can I get my wireless card to start up at boot? It used to, and now no longer does.
[07:00] <Jimb00b> i noticed a 6.11 or something somewhere whats that?
[07:01] <newz2000> Jimb00b: typo I'm sure. Is it on www.ubuntu.com?
[07:01] <soundray> setuid: make sure you have an 'auto wlan0' entry in /etc/network/interfaces (replace wlan0 appropriately)
[07:01] <setuid> I do
[07:01] <setuid> auto ath0
[07:01] <soundray> Jimb00b: that's not official - the next release is planned to be 7.04 (April 2007)
[07:01] <shmeelAway> i am trying to put files from ubuntu onto a external hardrive, but the external harddrive says i don't have the authority, any1 know how to fix that?
[07:02] <maja> just did a fresh install of Edgy and NO NETWORK INTERFACES, what gives?
[07:02] <benkillin> drivers, maybe
[07:02] <benkillin> whats the NIC
[07:02] <phan0x> Hey
[07:02] <maja> no eth1 or eth0, just lo
[07:02] <maja> wireless worked fine in Dapper
[07:03] <benkillin> it's a wireless card?
[07:03] <soundray> setuid: any errors relating to ath0 in dmesg?
[07:03] <maja> neither ethernet nor wireless works now
[07:03] <setuid> Nope
[07:03] <benkillin> look in the logs for some info (/var/log)
[07:03] <maja> in the ->system->administration->network dialog there is no option to enable to disable the network interfeaces
[07:03] <soundray> setuid: any messages at all relating to ath0?
[07:03] <setuid> rafb coming, jus a sec
[07:04] <instabin> !gdesklets
[07:04] <ubotu> gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness.  That's out of my depth, sry
[07:05] <setuid> Its not a bridge, that's how madwifi sets it up somehow
[07:05] <shmeelAway> alright, well how about this then: how can i get my windows virtual machine to read my external harddrive
[07:05] <setuid> Its just a standard wifi card, talking to a WRT
[07:05] <Jimb00b> all right guys thanks time to make the move :)
[07:05] <pbureau> maja what does lspci tell you
[07:06] <soundray> setuid: what do you have to do to make it come up?
[07:06] <setuid> soundray, Just issue an ifconfig essid blah blah, and it comes up
[07:06] <aalhamad> what is the command line to remove a file as a root??
[07:06] <pbureau> rm
[07:06] <maja> pbureau lspci shows both my cards
[07:06] <setuid> It seems like its not getting the ssid and such from /etc/network/interfaces at boot
[07:06] <pbureau> maja- no I  meant what chipset is it ?
[07:06] <maja> I'd pastebin the output but I can't get online
[07:07] <minimec> Hi folks. Does anyone of use the gui interface of 'imwheel'?
[07:07] <maja> Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01)
[07:07] <aalhamad> pbureau sudo rm file.html
[07:07] <Jimmey> What would be the best way for me to share a number of Windows games, I play in WINE, between myself and another user - Instead of having one copy of the game in my $HOME, and one in his?
[07:07] <shmeelAway> mmk, fine, can someone please tell me how to locate files? is there a command? i installed something but i don't know where and i want to delete it
[07:07] <aalhamad> pbureau sudo rm ~/file.html
[07:07] <soundray> setuid: perhaps it's a timing issue. Try adding 'ifconfig essid blah blah...' to /etc/rc.local
[07:07] <maja> I plugged a wire into ethernet and still no connection
[07:07] <Jimmey> shmeelAway, how did you install it?
[07:08] <pbureau> maja- prism card eh... check synaptic, load the module for it
[07:08] <shmeelAway> it was vmware server
[07:08] <concept10> Im trying to upgrade to feisty using gksu "update-manager -d" - I keep getting an error saying I cant install ubuntu-desktop because it depends on xorg and its not going to be installed.  Suggestions anyone?
[07:08] <setuid> soundray, But this _used to_ work fine, and now it doesn't. All I did was comment out the ssid/key lines in /etc/network/interfaces when I was travelling, so I could use a public WAP, and now it when I uncomment them back, it refuses to come up right.
[07:08] <shmeelAway> i just went to the website and extracted it, then ran some commands
[07:08] <maja> pbureau I would but I can't even get a wired connection now
[07:08] <Jimmey> shmeelAway, did you install it via synaptic?
[07:08] <Jimmey> shmeelAway, I see. Try "locate fileyouwanttosearchfor"
[07:08] <shmeelAway> no, through their website
[07:09] <maja> is there any way to get my wired ethernet up???
[07:09] <IdleOne> concept10: install sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[07:09] <lexko> I can't seem to get ubuntu installed using LVM2 via the installer. I have a ext3 boot and then want to install root on an LVM2 partition. I haven't come across any solutions, but it seems to be doable. any thoughts?
[07:09] <pbureau> maja plug it in and check network manage to enable it
[07:09] <IdleOne> concept10: forget that
[07:09] <soundray> setuid: do you want to pastebin your interfaces?
[07:10] <IdleOne> concept10: install "xorg"
[07:10] <maja> pbureau the network dialog under system->administration is missing "enable" and "disable"
[07:10] <shmeelAway> hmm, alright, will do jimmy
[07:10] <setuid> soundray, sure, hold on
[07:10] <soundray> lexko: afaik, you need the alternate installer
[07:10] <maja> and the only device is lo
[07:10] <maja> no eth1 or eth0
[07:10] <setuid> soundray, which one do you want? ifconfig -a or just iwconfig?
[07:10] <Stormx2> Uhg. Anyone studing mathematics here? I have a question ^_^
[07:10] <_archangel> one more question, whats the package name for proftp ?
[07:10] <soundray> setuid: /etc/network/interfaces
[07:11] <livingtm> Hey why might SoundRecorder record ONCE, then only silence after that?
[07:11] <setuid> Oh, sure... hold on
[07:11] <minimec> well ... there should be someone on that channel using a Logitech MOuse in combination with 'imwheel'... Am I right? ;)
[07:11] <pbureau> maja lspci | grep ethernet does it see the wired ether card ?
[07:11] <soundray> !proftpd | _archangel
[07:11] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-9ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1532 kB
[07:11] <Stormx2> _archangel: proftbd I think...
[07:11] <Stormx2> ftp*
[07:11] <Pici> Stormx2 : you could try in #ubuntu-offtopic ,but this really isnt the place to ask
[07:11] <setuid> shoogt, I think I just found the problem
[07:11] <Stormx2> kay.
[07:11] <pbureau> minimec- you may get a better answer if you asked your problem
[07:11] <lexko> soundray: is that the server CD? i saw some mention of that installer, but couldn't find a link
[07:11] <maja> pbureau nope
[07:11] <soundray> lexko: no
[07:11] <soundray> !alternate | lexko
[07:11] <ubotu> lexko: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[07:11] <_archangel> Stormx2 : thats not it
[07:12] <concept10> IdleOne, i get this error: xorg: Depends: libgl1-mesa-glx but it is not going to be installed
[07:12] <aalhamad> how can i create a folder as rooot??
[07:12] <pbureau> maja so it sees your wifi but not the eth0 card... reboot the box with wired plugged in
[07:12] <aalhamad> how can i create a folder as root? using commandline
[07:12] <lexko> ah so I owuld have to install Alternate as Dapper and then upgrade to Edgey?
[07:12] <soundray> aalhamad: 'sudo mkdir /path/folder'
[07:12] <IdleOne> concept10: #ubuntu+1 for help with fiesty
[07:12] <Pici> _archangel :I think he meant proftpd
[07:12] <maja> pbureau it shows the ethernet card if I just type "grep"
[07:12] <aalhamad> thanks
[07:12] <soundray> lexko: no, there is an alternate edgy as well
[07:12] <maja> I mean lspci
[07:12] <_archangel> E: Couldn't find package proftp
[07:12] <pbureau> aalhamad- all root command start with sudo dude... so mkdir for root = sudo mkdir directoryname
[07:12] <IdleOne> lexko: you can install edgy with alternate also
[07:12] <concept10> IdleOne, im there already, no help, but this has more to do with edgy
[07:12] <Pici> !info proftpd
[07:12] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.0-9ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 594 kB, installed size 1532 kB
[07:13] <wikiadm> join #php
[07:13] <soundray> _archangel: read carefully: proftpd
[07:13] <minimec> pbureau: Yeah... You're right. Ok. Imwheel is working well, so no problem using the software, but the GUI (indicating the window class) doesn't start. I get an 'signal 11' error.
[07:13] <shmeelAway> locate didn't work
[07:13] <maja> why should I be having issues like this? dapper was fine, now edgy's ruining my weekend
[07:13] <soundray> shmeelAway: try 'sudo updatedb' to fix locate
[07:14] <IdleOne> concept10: i dont think Fiesty is for you it is still beta and if you cant get to upgrade to it then you probably wont be able to fix the problems that might arise from the it
[07:14] <Pici> shmeelAway : you could try sudo find / | grep filename
[07:14] <minimec> pbureau: I don't now, if this is my computer with an hardware problem (I don't think so), or a bug in the ubuntu version of omwheel
[07:14] <_archangel> E: Couldn't find package proftpd
[07:14] <pbureau> maja dont feel bad I just spend 45 mins helping someone else , got it workingin the end
[07:14] <IdleOne> *the it? lol
[07:14] <IdleOne> !repos | _archangel
[07:14] <ubotu> _archangel: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:14] <Pici> _archangel : you need to enable the universe repositories see !universe for info
[07:14] <pbureau> minimec- I do use it so I am of no help here
[07:14] <concept10> IdleOne, never mind, I need to get on feisty, but thanks for trying
[07:14] <Pici> or what ubotu said
[07:14] <aalhamad> how can i create a file ..? using commandline
[07:14] <_archangel> !universe