[12:00] <jasoncohen> IceDC571, why?
[12:00] <oni> anyone can help me?
[12:00] <useruser> oni: what exactly are you trying to do?
[12:01] <matthieu_> La_PaRCa, as you seem responsive... Can you please type the command : >grep '13f6 0x00000110' /lib/modules/*/modules.pcimap    and give me the result?
[12:01] <vladuz976> anybody know a good guide to aptitude?
[12:01] <IceDC571> the default theme is soo.. stale and boring
[12:01] <oni> build a VisualBoyAdvance from the src
[12:01] <useruser> oni: where's the source?
[12:01] <oni> I'm in ppc
[12:01] <oni> in my desktop
[12:01] <IceDC571> you dont really need a guide to aptitude just use aptitude --help
[12:01] <useruser> oni: i mean, do you have a url?
[12:01] <HollowFrank> iceDC571: i wasn't too keen on it to start with but it really grew on me
[12:02] <oni> useruser: i've it in my desktop
[12:02] <useruser> oni: i understand. have you unpacked it? isn't there a file called README and/or INSTALL?
[12:02] <IceDC571> well other than that i really love ubuntu.. it sure beats the crap out of all the other distros, everything just works for me on ubuntu
[12:02] <oni> I haven't unpackaged it
[12:02] <useruser> oni: do so :)
[12:03] <HollowFrank> IceDC571: i wish i could say the same, my intel 536 modem is refusing to work and i ain't a clue why
[12:03] <La_PaRCa> matthieu_, nothing, blank, zilch, nada, zero
[12:03] <oni> ok, there's an INSTALL
[12:03] <useruser> oni: it probably has some nice instructions for compiling
[12:03] <Subliminal> my man pages "overflow" the terminal and produce strange characters, is there a size i can set so that they are formatted correctly?
[12:04] <useruser> Subliminal: try setting LC_ALL=C
[12:04] <HollowFrank> /list
[12:05] <matthieu_> La_PaRCa: Thanks for trying. It's a sound card that worked yesterday. I played around with linux-image for some reason, and today, it doesn't work anylonger... There is no driver listed in the modules.pcimap in MY PC, so I hoped someone would have a "older" version.
[12:05] <La_PaRCa> matthieu_, nope, sorry
[12:05] <IceDC571> anyone know a good site i could browse for some wallpapers in?
[12:05] <Subliminal> useruser: export LC_ALL=C doesnt seem to have an effect if thats what you intended
[12:06] <useruser> Subliminal: ok, just a guess
[12:06] <morgul_> I changed my audigy card 'slot and I don't have sound in hoary anymore, what can I do to get sound back ?
[12:06] <useruser> Subliminal: see if the locale command thinks you've got some funny locale set, though
[12:06] <oni> useruser: I get this: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[12:06] <useruser> oni: apt-get install gcc
[12:06] <oni> I think I have it
[12:07] <matthieu_> morgul_: esd -h would show the available cards. Check that it is in the list. If not, look for the driver.
[12:07] <abydos> hmm
[12:07] <useruser> oni: apt-cache policy gcc. does it say it's installed?
[12:07] <abydos> how does one make a sound card become the primary sound output device
[12:07] <oni> wait.. xD it's installing
[12:07] <morgul_> merci matthieu_
[12:07] <Subliminal> useruser: LC_ALL is blank
[12:07] <useruser> Subliminal: ok, how about the others? all blank?
[12:08] <sorush20> guys what is the uri for my printer...
[12:08] <Subliminal> useruser: en_GB.UTF-
[12:08] <abydos> I have an audigy2 and an onboard AC97 soundcard.  I want the Audigy2 as the default (hell, only would be good too) sound card
[12:08] <chris> hey guys i have another question for ya,  howto install   ati-driver-installer-8.14.13.run
[12:08] <Subliminal> useruser: en_GB.UTF-8
[12:08] <useruser> Subliminal: I had trouble with exactly that locale
[12:08] <useruser> Subliminal: try unsetting those variables
[12:08] <useruser> Subliminal: (trouble on debian, that is)
[12:08] <Subliminal> useruser: set them to blank
[12:09] <useruser> Subliminal: or use unset
[12:09] <Subliminal> ok
[12:10] <matthieu_> abydos: type "esd -h" to show the cards. You should then in /etc/asound.conf put "hw:0,0" or "hw:1,0" in the default set depending on the result of the esd command. Clear ?
[12:10] <abydos> matthieu_:  clear indeed
[12:10] <Subliminal> useruser: do i need yo sudo to unset them, or have they set themselves back?
[12:11] <abydos> matthieu_:  esd -h shows a simple usage message.  Doesn't help me much
[12:11] <useruser> Subliminal: check with locale again, i guess
[12:11] <morgul_> esd -h don't show anything it seems
[12:11] <Subliminal> useruser: i did and they were back :-/
[12:11] <useruser> Subliminal: odd. is LC_ALL still equal to C?
[12:11] <matthieu_> abydos: the last line should show the available cards.
[12:12] <useruser> Subliminal: i just ran  unset $(locale | sed -e 's/=.*//')
[12:12] <useruser> Subliminal: and they all say POSIX now when i run locale
[12:12] <abydos> matthieu_:  /dev/dsp, /dev/dsp2
[12:12] <useruser> Subliminal: which is probably a Good Thing
[12:12] <matthieu_> abydos: there is another way to get it with the command >cat /proc/asound/devices
[12:12] <Subliminal> useruser: that worked
[12:12] <morgul_> do I have recompile my kernerl since I changed the audigy card pci slot?
[12:12] <Goek> anybody knows where the danish ubuntu channel is at?
[12:13] <Subliminal> useruser: as does the man page
[12:13] <morgul_> ok /dev/dsp I got that too
[12:13] <Subliminal> thanks
[12:13] <abydos> matthieu_:  that information is very uselessly formatted
[12:13] <matthieu_> abydos: that's not what I expected... I have for esd : "Possible devices are: hw:0"    and for cat... : [0-0]  : digital audio capture
[12:14] <LinuxJones> Goek, #ubuntu-dk ?
[12:14] <Goek> :)
[12:14] <Goek> the webpage just said ubuntu-da
[12:14] <useruser> Subliminal: cool :)
[12:15] <Subliminal> useruser: would you know what the proxy environmental variables where, off hand?
[12:15] <useruser> Subliminal: http_proxy and/or HTTP_PROXY, i think
[12:15] <Subliminal> ty
[12:15] <chris> hey guys i have another question for ya,  howto install   ati-driver-installer-8.14.13.run
[12:16] <desrt> chris; there's an ubuntu package, xorg-driver-fglrx
[12:16] <LinuxJones> chris, you should stick with the ubuntu binary driver for your ati card
[12:16] <matthieu_> abydos: as you have a French (or German?) name, you may try to browse http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=2969 which is quite helpful
[12:16] <useruser> matthieu_: methinks abydos is a stargate reference :P
[12:16] <abydos> matthieu_:  I'm in the US.  I chose this nick because I like stargate
[12:17] <chris> so how would i go about updating them or should i
[12:17] <morgul_> I don't get it
[12:17] <Subliminal> useruser: would you know what the man page for the proxy environmental variable is, or how to set it?
[12:17] <matthieu_> abydos: yes but we can see your real (?) first and last name with IRC...
[12:17] <useruser> Subliminal: nope
[12:17] <Subliminal> ok
[12:17] <useruser> Subliminal: it could possibly depend on the app you're using
[12:17] <Subliminal> for wget
[12:18] <LinuxJones> chris, you could run into problems when say... a kernel update happens if you compile your own ati driver.
[12:18] <abydos> matthieu_:  way way back in my family we were called siedtler
[12:18] <abydos> and we were german
[12:18] <Subliminal> the man page states it will use the environ variables
[12:18] <matthieu_> abydos: so the web page would not help...
[12:18] <useruser> Subliminal: pretty sure it's http_proxy
[12:18] <abydos> matthieu_:  probably not
[12:18] <morgul_> matthieu_ can you help ?
[12:18] <useruser> Subliminal: the manpage is a bit crap, just assuming you know
[12:18] <Subliminal> useruser: it just wouldnt let me set it
[12:18] <useruser> Subliminal: maybe also ftp_proxy, https_proxy, ...
[12:19] <useruser> Subliminal: how do you mean, wouldn't let you set it? you ran export http_proxy=somehost:8080 wget http://foo.bar/baz.html and it just ignored it?
[12:19] <norhted> is there a way to add a keyboard to layout?
[12:19] <matthieu_> abydos: there is a set of commands to run to know if OSS or ALSA are in use : lsof |grep /dev/dsp   and  lsof |grep /dev/snd    Try both and tell me if any line appears
[12:20] <useruser> Subliminal: (that's two separate commands, press enter before wget)
[12:20] <Subliminal> useruser: ah, i was sticking a $ in
[12:21] <useruser> Subliminal: i see
[12:21] <useruser> Subliminal: $ means "the value of that var", so if you hadn't set the var it'd return an empty string, which bash would find confusing
[12:21] <norhted> hello everyone, is there anybody who knows to add a new keyboard(that is not in the ubuntu`s default list)?
[12:22] <funkyHat> do i need postfix and fetchmail running at all on a desktop?
[12:22] <Strife[lab] > need? no
[12:22] <jasoncohen> funkyHat, probably not
[12:22] <Strife[lab] > want? maybe, depending on things
[12:22] <Strife[lab] > I don't use them though, if that helps
[12:23] <funkyHat> well i don't use them, but i was wondering do they do anything important system-wise, i know on my server (FC3) i get messages every day from logwatch and something to do with cron
[12:24] <funkyHat> if disabling postfix and fetchmail breaks something like that that would otherwise be used, i'd rather leave it
[12:24] <useruser> funkyHat: i'm pretty sure you don't need fetchmail for anything like that
[12:25] <useruser> funkyHat: that just downloads mail from external servers
[12:25] <vladuz976> anybody know what the permission 0710 stands for
[12:25] <funkyHat> and fetchmail isn't involved with pop mail retrieval either is it?
[12:25] <useruser> vladuz976: -rwx--x---
[12:25] <thespiritoftal> how can i search a file in ubuntu?
[12:25] <pax> 4 = read 2 = write 1 = execute
[12:25] <vladuz976> useruser: how do you see that
[12:26] <useruser> vladuz976: i found this out without any thought: touch /tmp/foo; chmod 0710 /tmp/foo; ls -l /tmp/foo
[12:26] <vladuz976> useruser: that means read write exexte by user and x by anyone in group?
[12:26] <abydos> by adding a line to /etc/modules to load the emu10k1 driver before any other
[12:26] <useruser> vladuz976: yes
[12:26] <LinuxJones> thespiritoftal, Places >> Search for Files
[12:27] <useruser> vladuz976: pretty odd permissions, seems to me...
[12:27] <vladuz976> useruser: it's for mutt
[12:27] <useruser> vladuz976: on a directory?
[12:27] <vladuz976> useruser: file
[12:27] <vladuz976> getmailrc
[12:27] <useruser> vladuz976: well i don't see what the --x for group is good for - how can you execute a file if you can't read it?
[12:27] <thespiritoftal> thanks linuxjones
[12:28] <LinuxJones> thespiritoftal, :)
[12:28] <vladuz976> useruser: you probably can't but, sine i have rwx it should be ok for me should i set it to 0755 ?
[12:28] <useruser> vladuz976: 0700 should be fine for you, i think
[12:28] <vladuz976> useruser: why did you do the touch thing on /tmp
[12:29] <useruser> vladuz976: prolly doesn't matter, anyway
[12:29] <useruser> vladuz976: to create it
[12:29] <vladuz976> useruser: why in /tmp
[12:29] <MishaS> hi. i'm having problems with xkb in the latest (unstable) ubuntu. :) is this the right forum to get help for it?;)
[12:29] <useruser> vladuz976: because it's useless
[12:30] <Melectaus_> How do you install the drivers for a wifi card on ubuntu if you have the windows disc
[12:30] <Melectaus_> i recall its possible
[12:30] <bluefox> breezy seems to have lost mkfontdir, which is critical as X can't start because xbasefonts isn't installed right
[12:30] <Melectaus_> but i cant remember how its done
[12:30] <LinuxJones> Melectaus_, ndiswrapper
[12:30] <morgul_> I changed my audigy sound card slot and I don't have sound in hoary anymore, what can I do to get it back?
[12:30] <Melectaus_> LinuxJones, any chance you could talk me thru it in pm if your not too busy?
[12:31] <Melectaus_> i would be most greatfull
[12:31] <LinuxJones> Melectaus_, I don't have a wireless card but if you search the wiki there is a howto on there i believe
[12:31] <Melectaus_> ok cheers
[12:31] <Melectaus_> what site is the wiki on
[12:31] <Melectaus_> ubuntu.com ?
[12:32] <Melectaus_> yup
[12:32] <Melectaus_> got it
[12:32] <Melectaus_> cheers
[12:32] <funkyHat> wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:32] <FX|Laptop> Hello
[12:32] <FX|Laptop> hey I have a question.
[12:32] <LinuxJones> Melectaus_, >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[12:32] <funkyHat> FX|Laptop, just ask :)
[12:32] <FX|Laptop> I have vlc, but all I get is a smaller box and no larger box for viewing a dvd
[12:33] <morgul_> I guess i'm gonna put the card back in the slot it was before
[12:33] <stevenj> is there someone here who knows about backports?
[12:33] <Strife[lab] > stevenj: what about them?
[12:34] <IIIEars> ubotu autologin is login to your desktop automatically on boot up.   http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/2056  ( cafuego - This isn't an "official" link. Okay addition? )
[12:34] <ubotu> okay, IIIEars
[12:34] <abydos> hmm
[12:34] <abydos> my sound card is still not working right
[12:35] <stevenj> Strife[lab]  well no matter how I try to install firefox 1.0.4 from backports I get errors [apt-get install firefox or apt-get install mozilla-firefox, or dist-upgrade]  what is the correct way to install backports firefox?
[12:35] <Strife[lab] > an upgrade or dist-upgrade should work...
[12:35] <Strife[lab] > stevenj: what kind of errors are you getting?
[12:36] <stevenj> Strife[lab] , I'll post in no paste -- let me recreate it
[12:36] <bluefox> can someo...no heh
[12:36] <pitti> FOLKS! New hoary firefox released which should actually work now
[12:36] <AlexMBas> anyone here uses mono?
[12:37] <bluefox> pitti,  help :(
[12:37] <bluefox> pitti,  mkfontdir and mkfontscale are gone on breezy :( workaround?
[12:37] <FX|Laptop> Here are the errors I get running from a terminal.....
[12:37] <Strife[lab] > pitti: about time, eh?
[12:37] <IIIEars> pitti - Yay! - got the link? - :)
[12:37] <FX|Laptop> libdvdnav: Menu Languages available: \uffff\uffff
[12:37] <pitti> bluefox: this is daniel's mess
[12:37] <pitti> IIIEars: typing the advisory now
[12:37] <bluefox> pitti, daniel banned me from #-devel
[12:38] <IIIEars> THANK YOU!
[12:38] <wulfepup> and pity us poor dial-up folks... the current 12+/- updates I need and upwards of 100MB  with a few in the 30+ range
[12:38] <bluefox> for bitching about X breaking in breezy
[12:38] <pitti> bluefox: sorry, my X is broken as well, I don't even have a proper keyboard
[12:38] <bluefox> pitti,  heh, I will find a 32 bit mkfontscale and copy it over. . .
[12:38] <MishaS> because xlibs package is empty, and xkeyboard-config does not have all necessary symbols (at least, symbols :))
[12:38] <pitti> bluefox: just downgrade to xbase-clients version 32
[12:38] <IIIEars> pitti - Do you need festival for everything on Breezy? - lol
[12:39] <bluefox> pitti,  command or must find/download?
[12:39] <funkyHat> meh... i just installed 1.0.4 from backports earlier :(
[12:39] <Dr_Fate> whoever thought it was a good idea to marry firefox to ubuntu, is probably kicking themselves right now, at least I hope, since I can't:(
[12:39] <IIIEars> lol
[12:39] <pitti> bluefox: try looking in /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:39] <bluefox> pitti,  empty dir :)
[12:39] <bluefox> Dr_Fate, ?
[12:39] <pitti> funkyHat: now you'll get 1.0.6 in hoary
[12:39] <FX|Laptop> hmmm
[12:39] <Strife[lab] > pitti: oh great, apt-get upgrade decided to fail
[12:39] <funkyHat> oooo :D
[12:40] <bluefox> pitti,  apt-get install links Z)
[12:40] <FX|Laptop> Welp thanks for the help anyways.
[12:40] <Strife[lab] > something in mozilla-firefox-gnome-support conflicts with something in mozilla-firefox
[12:40] <funkyHat> pitti, when?
[12:40] <Necrosan_> I'm trying to run a gameserver from this ubuntu machine
[12:40] <Necrosan_> but no matter what no ports open up on the external IP
[12:40] <stevenj> pitti, new patch today?
[12:40] <Necrosan_> what can i do to fix this crap?
[12:40] <pitti> stevenj: no, version 1.0.6. I gave up, mozilla code is a mess
[12:41] <funkyHat> Necrosan_, do you have firestarter installed?
[12:41] <Necrosan_> yep
[12:41] <bluefox> pitti,  1.0.6 is official in hory?
[12:41] <pitti> yes
[12:41] <Necrosan_> to share the internet
[12:41] <funkyHat> well i can't see it in synaptic :(
[12:41] <stevenj> pitti, yes I really ubuntu the best but the firefox problem...it a bad problem...its what I use my box for :)
[12:41] <funkyHat> Necrosan_, you should be able to use that to open up external ports
[12:41] <pitti> bluefox: it's totally against our policy of backporting, and I really hate it, but backporting mozilla crap^Wcode is a mess
[12:41] <wulfepup> Is there an ubuntu version I could run on an old 286 machine with only 64MB ram? (preferably with Gnome, not just a server version)
[12:41] <Necrosan_> funkyHat, I did.. it isnt working
[12:42] <amd3> how do I install vlc using apt-get
[12:42] <LasseL> 286?
[12:42] <bluefox> pitti,  I would like to see Deer Park in backports?  :)
[12:42] <pitti> in backports, for my sake :-)
[12:42] <funkyHat> wulfepup, xfce4 (another display manager, replacement for gnome, just in case) should run OK on that
[12:43] <parabola> "apt-get install vlc" ??
[12:43] <bluefox> pitti,  seriously though I want to test that, but installing it means things break
[12:43] <Necrosan_> I didn't even know 286 machines supported 64mb ram hahaha
[12:43] <funkyHat> haha
[12:43] <LasseL> can xfce4 be configured to look and work just like the default gnome setup?
[12:43] <IceDC571> Necrosan_: are you kidding me?
[12:43] <Necrosan_> LasseL, no
[12:43] <Necrosan_> IceDC571, Talk to wulfepup =P
[12:43] <stimpie> I
[12:43] <jhaa> LasseL <3
[12:43] <IceDC571> wulfepup: a 286 machine with 64mb of ram??
[12:44] <amd3> it says couldn't find package, i also tried videolan-client
[12:44] <LasseL> I really like, the default setup, but i dislike the speed and i also dislike the default feel of xfce
[12:44] <bluefox> damnit
[12:44] <bluefox> I can't find xbase-clients on archive.ubuntu.com
[12:44] <wulfepup> arrggghh... no.. sorry....  it's a p1 66 or similar..
[12:44] <funkyHat> LasseL, change it then ;)
[12:44] <parabola> hm
[12:44] <wulfepup> Lemme dbl chk
[12:44] <IIIEars> Ubutnu update manger seems to get the new firefox and firefox-gnome support.
[12:44] <LasseL> funkyHat, i can't it seems
[12:44] <stimpie> I've some issue installing mozilla-firefox-gnome-support (1.0.6) it conflicts with firefox-gnome-support
[12:45] <oni> got problems installing SDL
[12:45] <hybrid> IIIEars: hows it going
[12:45] <funkyHat> oh :S
[12:45] <IceDC571> whats the gnome-support for?
[12:45] <stevenj> Strife[lab] , did uninstall firefox 1.0.2 before installing backports firefox...its the only install method that does'nt break firefox
[12:45] <stimpie> should I remove firefox-gnome-support first?
[12:45] <IceDC571> i thought it already had gnome support
[12:45] <oni> can any1 help?
[12:45] <mmoscosa> question.... why cant i download a theme forme a weppage, i click on the link, loads and nothing happen, i have had this with some other rtings such as applications
[12:45] <Heimdall> hey hey roool
[12:45] <Heimdall> room
[12:45] <IIIEars> middle of a large d/l can't close firefox yet to see if the bug is resolved
[12:45] <eth42> oni: help on what?
[12:46] <oni> installing SDL
[12:46] <oni> I get this configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[12:46] <wulfepup> right.. P266  that's it
[12:46] <funkyHat> pitti, i can't see firefox 1.0.6 yet :(
[12:46] <eth42> oni: nope. what's that?
[12:46] <Necrosan_> can someone please help me? i cant get a gameserver to listen on my external ip addresss..
[12:46] <wulfepup> oy..  confusion
[12:46] <stevenj> I used firefox 1.0.6 today at work (winXP) and I tested 20 plugins and everything worked ;)
[12:46] <funkyHat> i suppose it could be NTL cache...
[12:46] <stevenj> its not a firefox problem
[12:47] <funkyHat> stevenj, firefox 1.0.6 was never broken on windows XP
[12:47] <oni> I do the thing that the INSTALL make me do and I get that: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[12:47] <oni> make: *** No hay ninguna regla para construir el objetivo `install'.  Alto.
[12:47] <mmoscosa> Can anyone help me?!?!?! why cant i download a theme forme a weppage, i click on the link, loads and nothing happen, i have had this with some other rtings such as applications
[12:47] <Necrosan_> Can someone tell me if I have port 2593 open?
[12:48] <funkyHat> Necrosan_, yep, /msg me your IP
[12:48] <mikul> if i want to associate any program with a key kombination on my keyboard, how do i do then? :)
[12:48] <funkyHat> ooh, i feel silly *does whois*
[12:48] <stevenj> funkyHat, is it a ubuntu problem or just the linux build(s) of firefox
[12:48] <stimpie> Can someone help me with updating firefox? I get the following error: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox
[12:48] <oni> anyone can help me installing SDL?
[12:48] <stevenj> stimpie, me too!
[12:48] <cjb> Hi.  Trying to upgrade to Breezy:  files list file for package `xserver-xorg-driver-glint' is missing final newline.  Any hints?
[12:49] <Necrosan_> 2593 and 2594 and 21 should be open
[12:49] <LasseL> stimpie, be careful there ...
[12:49] <oni> got ploblems compiling SDL
[12:50] <supernix> Hiya
[12:50] <supernix> I was curious if someone could help me with updating Firefox
[12:50] <supernix> everytime I try I get an error
[12:50] <stevenj> my ubuntu firefox is so messed up...I using mozilla ;)
[12:50] <supernix> something about couldn't update file because of overwriting or something
[12:51] <pitti> funkyHat: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/ <- it's right there
[12:51] <stimpie> supernix, looks like several of us have that issue
[12:51] <supernix> LOL ty God finaly im not alone
[12:51] <eth42> oni: c++ is installed??
[12:51] <jeffbrown> anyone know how I can install grellm?  (apt-get install gkrellm doesn't work)
[12:52] <stevenj> supernix, you talking about BP FF right?
[12:52] <oni> I think so, how I can check it?
[12:52] <jeffbrown> gkrellm, not grellm
[12:52] <leviathann> Anyone have any experience with nvidia-glx drivers?
[12:52] <bluefox> got it i think
[12:52] <stimpie> 'mozilla-firefox' is conflicting with 'firefox'
[12:52] <pitti> stimpie: yes, naturally
[12:52] <supernix> not sure what you mean about BP
[12:52] <oni> eth42: I think so, how I can check it?
[12:52] <stevenj> backports
[12:52] <pitti> stimpie: mozilla-firefox is obsolete in breezy
[12:52] <supernix> oh
[12:53] <bluefox> pitti,  what are the chances I can see a deer park in backports or universe that has ~/.mozilla/deerpark as the config dir instead of sharing with FireFox?
[12:53] <supernix> nah I don't think I have the backports sources in my list anymore
[12:53] <bluefox> :)
[12:53] <stevenj> so to install backports firefox-do you have completly uninstall everything firefox and yelp>?
[12:53] <bluefox> xrdb not found
[12:53] <citrus_> how do i get movie previews (icon images of the movie) in nautilus OR konqueror
[12:53] <wulfepup> leviathann: what did you want to know.. I might be able to help (probably not, but maybe) I use them.
[12:53] <funkyHat> pitti, do i have to uninstall 'firefox' and the other backports packages i installed in order to see mozilla-firefox 1.0.6?
[12:54] <bluefoxicy> woot
[12:54] <supernix> I have 1.04 of firefox installed
[12:54] <oni> eth42 ?
[12:54] <Necrosan_> funkyHat, anything?
[12:54] <funkyHat> Necrosan_, only 80 so far
[12:54] <stevenj> I wish there was some kind faq on the backports page for this issue
[12:55] <Necrosan_> can you access port 80?
[12:55] <leviathann> wulfepup, I installed nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings but it's not giving me any options for configuration, is there anything special I need to do. I also noticed that my refresh rate options are limited to 60hz, which is bad, I should at least get 75hz as an option.
[12:55] <eth42> oni: does g++ execute? (I think it should be this one...)
[12:55] <LasseL> stimpie, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51404
[12:55] <oni> eth42: teach me how to check if it execute
[12:55] <leviathann> wulfepup, also, when I click on one of the quicklaunch icons there are a quick flash of phantom lines on the screen, kind of annoying.
[12:56] <stimpie> Laney, thanx
[12:56] <eth42> oni: I mean, is /usr/bin/g++ installed? package g++.
[12:56] <Necrosan_> bbiab
[12:56] <funkyHat> i think i'll wait and see if apt can see firefox 1.0.6 tomorrow, it doesn't want to admit it's there at the moment :(
[12:56] <supernix> hmmmm seems that you can only get 1.06 from the backports
[12:56] <oni> eth42: apt-get told me not xD
[12:56] <supernix> or am I wrong ?
[12:57] <pitti> funkyHat: oh, of course; I never looked at backports, and we can't support them
[12:57] <stevenj> I just installed mozilla and its way faster than firefox
[12:57] <pitti> funkyHat: so obviously the backports guys messed up the package name
[12:57] <Razor-X> stevenj: what did you do to that poor fox?!
[12:57] <IIIEars> Okay, Updated firefox, firefox-gnome support using ubuntu update amnager. No problems so far. firefox begins d/l without right click "save link as..." and comeplete the d/l.
[12:57] <Razor-X> IMO, Firefox comes second to fastest rendering
[12:57] <funkyHat> pitti, but it still seems strange that i can't see 1.0.6 in synaptic even though i've got backports disabled?
[12:58] <mindwarp> IIIEars - same issue with firefox here
[12:58] <nalioth> funkyHat: i advise using the current firefox, the newer ones are a bucket of trouble atm
[12:58] <eth42> oni: so I would install it...
[12:58] <mindwarp> maybe someone should file a bug report?
[12:58] <Razor-X> uggghhh, I'm not liking the BT client in Opera
[12:58] <funkyHat> nalioth, eh?
[12:58] <pitti> funkyHat: update the lists first?
[12:58] <Razor-X> i'm getting 0 k/s up and 21 k/s down
[12:58] <Razor-X> which is sad
[12:58] <funkyHat> done, several times :P
[12:58] <stevenj> Razor-X, tried upgrade from backports because the "official fox" is broken, and I cant download with it and plugins crash it
[12:58] <oni> eth42: SDL is installing, ty!
[12:58] <nalioth> funkyHat: ff 104 and 106 are causing lots of traffic in #ubuntu today cuz they don't work
[12:58] <Razor-X> stevenj: did you change your version string?
[12:58] <eth42> oni: good!
[12:59] <leviathann> wulfepup, you still there?
[12:59] <nalioth> funkyHat: i advise you use the currently available 1.0.2 available from ubuntu
[12:59] <IIIEars> mindwarp - firefox and firefox-gnome have been updated again to fix the right click bug. (today?) just installed and that problem is fixed
[12:59] <Razor-X> hahahaha! we Opera users stand tall on our monolith! ;)
[12:59] <nalioth> Razor-X: opera is not free
[12:59] <funkyHat> nalioth, we are just discussing the fact taht 1.0.6 has been released in hoary
[12:59] <Razor-X> nalioth: ah well, be that as it may
[12:59] <Razor-X> hmmmm....
[12:59] <eth42> anyone using cups with browsing?
[12:59] <pluffsy> hello
[12:59] <nalioth> funkyHat: as a broken backport
[12:59] <leviathann> Are limewire/gtk-gnutella and gdesklets not available in the ubuntu reps?
[12:59] <Razor-X> I need a good torrent client, PLEASE
[12:59] <mindwarp> Razor-X - azureus
[01:00] <Razor-X> I don't know what magic Azureus works, it just does it... but it causes a 100% CPU error on my machine
[01:00] <leviathann> Razor-X, what mindwarp said
[01:00] <funkyHat> nalioth, besides, 1.0.2 is more broken than 1.0.4 from backports
[01:00] <nalioth> Razor-X: java plus well, java
[01:00] <pluffsy> sorry. I guess you get this all the time, but I didn't find the info. what are the main differences (just very very basic) between debian and ubuntu?
[01:00] <Razor-X> so, while Azureus gives me a nice strumming 100 k/s (and I love their console interface, fsck GUI man ;) I have errors
[01:00] <stevenj> Razor-X, yes
[01:00] <decklin> i snailmailed a friend of mine (using warty right now) a hoary cdrom. she's getting a can't check signature: public key not found from gpgv when trying to do apt-cdrom add. any ideas what i should tell her to do?
[01:00] <nalioth> funkyHat: then use galeon epiphany or kazehakase
[01:00] <mindwarp> pluffsy - if you have to ask ubuntu is for you
[01:00] <Razor-X> nalioth: it should have enough RAM to run on my modest box
[01:00] <supernix> ok just looked in synaptic this is crazy I have two listings one said firefox and the other says mozilla-firefox
[01:00] <Razor-X> I asked around in #azureus-users, and they said it's a problem
[01:00] <Razor-X> and so, now I need to migrate
[01:00] <stimpie> LasseL, that forum post basically tells me to switch to debian
[01:00] <nalioth> Razor-X: i just bought a new G5 imac, and azureus sucks on it, too
[01:01] <mindwarp> then use gnome torrent
[01:01] <Razor-X> and Azureus, aMule, and eMule are the only P2P clients that have good UPnP support
[01:01] <stevenj> pluffsy, I think debian uses xfree
[01:01] <Razor-X> mindwarp: i'ld prefer to be gnome free
[01:01] <pluffsy> mindwarp: heh. great. and I've already sort of decided on ubuntu the slogan is catchy. still would be nice to know very briefly. :)
[01:01] <Razor-X> any curses interfaces?
[01:01] <hybrid_goth> whats UPnP
[01:01] <mindwarp> well then hanging @ ubuntu channel may be a bad idea
[01:01] <Razor-X> I would love curses torrents as well
[01:01] <mindwarp> considering its the default DE
[01:01] <Razor-X> hybrid_goth: Universal Plug and Play
[01:01] <pluffsy> stevenj: They just switched to X.org
[01:01] <Razor-X> an interface for devices like routers to dynamically supply the need to forward ports
[01:02] <mindwarp> pluffsy - ubuntu is desktop oriented, debian is everything oriented
[01:02] <stevenj> pluffsy cool...
[01:02] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: ah UPnP is unsafe
[01:02] <Razor-X> mindwarp: Debian is a nice desktop too
[01:02] <mindwarp> pluffsy - and debian, unless you run unstable, is way behind the curve of new software
[01:02] <Razor-X> hybrid_goth: very slightly
[01:02] <pluffsy> right
[01:02] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: even leo agrees
[01:02] <supernix> hi
[01:02] <Razor-X> it is unsafe.... only to the extent that if someone breaks my box, then he can wreak havoc with my router
[01:02] <Razor-X> hybrid_goth: UPnP is VERY unsafe in Windows
[01:02] <Razor-X> because Windows uses it's own UPnP layer
[01:03] <stevenj> does'nt most apps come from debian that ubuntu uses? :)
[01:03] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: true
[01:03] <Razor-X> in Linux it's much more safe because UPnP is application individual
[01:03] <hybrid_goth> ah
[01:03] <hybrid_goth> i see
[01:03] <Razor-X> and so, correctly implemented, it has it's weaknesses, but it's much stronger
[01:03] <Razor-X> trust Windows to fsck/bork a system-wide implementation of anything *shrugs*
[01:03] <DekaPink> Ubuntu doesn't love me. xD
[01:04] <IIIEars> Razor-X - upnp - always learn something new here. :)
[01:04] <supernix> does Linux do Upnp ?
[01:04] <Razor-X> ...weird, Opera uses the ports i've forwarded
[01:04] <Razor-X> I can tell that through my Packet Monitor
[01:04] <Razor-X> IIIEars: hah
[01:04] <Razor-X> supernix: it's application dependant
[01:04] <hybrid_goth> UPnP plug and play for the internet more or less
[01:04] <Razor-X> are there any nice CLI packet monitors?
[01:05] <eth42> DekaPink: Ubuntu IS love
[01:05] <Razor-X> hybrid_goth: i'm really getting convinced by Leo that a Windows machine is not worth it nowadays
[01:05] <nalioth> Razor-X: like ethereal?
[01:05] <eth42> sorry
[01:05] <hybrid_goth> lol
[01:05] <Razor-X> a Mac if you want user friendly, a Linux if you want otherwise but powerful
[01:05] <Razor-X> nalioth: yeah, like Ethereal
[01:05] <Razor-X> Ethereal pwnz
[01:05] <DekaPink> eth42: I'd believe you if I could get my ATI Radeon card to work. xD
[01:05] <IIIEars> Razor-X - What is DCOM?
[01:05] <Razor-X> hybrid_goth: good job! ;)
[01:06] <NuuB> what happened to modemlights in hoary?
[01:06] <Razor-X> IIIEars: it's some interface in Windows that is very badly implemented and highly exploitable, IIRC
[01:06] <Razor-X> I don't know that much about DCOM because I don't use it
[01:06] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: ;)
[01:06] <Razor-X> Windows == bad implementation
[01:06] <hybrid_goth> NuuB: modemlights?
[01:06] <hybrid_goth> is it a peice of software?
[01:06] <magog> i jus got my ubuntu discs :)
[01:07] <eth42> DekaPink: what's the problem exactly? (not that I know ATI Radeon......)
[01:07] <Razor-X> if M$ wants to survive, they need to make Windows less unified and more modular
[01:07] <stevenj> has anyone tried debian sarge?
[01:07] <DekaPink> eth42: Can't get any 3D acceleration.
[01:07] <Razor-X> that way, malware of any kind will have a harder time lodgining itself in the system
[01:07] <IIIEars> Razor-X - there are few free utils on "sheilds up!" gibson research to disable it. - glad i did.
[01:07] <Razor-X> IIIEars: ahhh, yeah
[01:07] <NuuB> modemlights was one of the items in the top menu panal for gnome
[01:07] <LasseL> debian sarge: a blast from the past :)
[01:07] <DekaPink> eth42: So games are all slow and/or not working.
[01:07] <Razor-X> I only borked Windows _once_
[01:07] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: i saw with leo. M$ needs to quite and stay with the xbox
[01:07] <eth42> DekaPink: which games?    hahahah
[01:07] <Razor-X> that's when INternet would die after 5 minutes of startup
[01:07] <hybrid_goth> NuuB: try a look in synaptic for gnome plugins
[01:08] <NuuB> warty had it, but its not there in hoary
[01:08] <DekaPink> eth42: Most all of them. :P
[01:08] <Razor-X> the _one_ thing I didn't try is rebuilding my WinSock's, but, at that point, I was keen to format that b*tch
[01:08] <Razor-X> hybrid_goth: yeah, exactly
[01:08] <eth42> DekaPink: I suppose that there's no free driver with 3D support....
[01:08] <hybrid_goth> lol
[01:08] <Razor-X> it's time they say ``We're done, we've made enough money''
[01:08] <nalioth> Razor-X: leave windows alone, it likes to be alone
[01:08] <hybrid_goth> NuuB: it is prolly just a plugin look in synaptic
[01:08] <NuuB> i tried doing an apt-get for the package, but its still not in the panel menu
[01:08] <hybrid_goth> nalioth: very alone
[01:08] <Razor-X> nalioth: well, Leo brought up a good point to me
[01:08] <Razor-X> the majority of the users use Windows
[01:08] <IIIEars> windows is only safe when not connected to anything
[01:08] <DekaPink> eth42: I d'know... I know I've seen it work on linux before. :3 I'm guessing Ubuntu just doesn't like it yet. :3
[01:09] <hybrid_goth> NuuB: is the name right?
[01:09] <Razor-X> and so, these users _need_ something to protect themselves, those who quite aren't ready for Linux
[01:09] <Razor-X> IIIEars: no, it's _relatively_ safe
[01:09] <stevenj> a guy I work with convinced our boss from going from a novell network to a pure Windows server 2003  network...we have 8 or so 2003 servers
[01:09] <hybrid_goth> IIIEars: now windows has a buffer over flow from USB drives
[01:09] <NuuB> should be, modemlights or modem lights
[01:09] <hybrid_goth> stevenj: sweet
[01:09] <Razor-X> stevenj: wow, what an idiot ;)
[01:09] <catlin> ok.. so i am relatively new to UBUNTU... and i was hoping that someone may be able to help me figure out how to get KDE to run as my GUI instead of Gnome if that is possible
[01:09] <stevenj> I hate windows server 2003
[01:09] <phixion> after a fresh install, what should my repositories list look like?
[01:09] <hybrid_goth> NuuB: _should_
[01:09] <NuuB> looking for synaptic still
[01:09] <Razor-X> catlin: you can try using Kubuntu, instead of Ubuntu
[01:09] <NuuB> yes, _should_
[01:09] <hybrid_goth> NuuB: try apt-cache search modem
[01:09] <Razor-X> Kubuntu uses KDE primarily instead of Gnome
[01:09] <DekaPink> catlin: sudo apt-get install kde
[01:09] <nalioth> catlin: install "kubuntu-desktop" and choose it at login from your sessions menu
[01:10] <eth42> DekaPink: if it runs on another linux, it should also run on ubuntu
[01:10] <DekaPink> eth42: And yet... xD
[01:10] <mjr> hybrid_goth, well, I heard firewire drives are inherently unsafe to plug-in, as they can do dma to memory ;)
[01:10] <NuuB> its part of a package install - no seperate install that i was able to find
[01:10] <Razor-X> nalioth: have they released new Eterm versions?
[01:10] <phixion> what should my repositories list look like? :/
[01:10] <catlin> nalioth: can that be found in Synaptic
[01:10] <nalioth> Razor-X: not yet
[01:10] <nalioth> catlin: yes it can
[01:10] <Razor-X> nalioth: I don't use the package, so I want to compile any new features in
[01:10] <stevenj> Razor-X, the only bad thing...I don't enough to make a strong argument...so now I will wait until his golden child bites our companies ass for it
[01:10] <IIIEars> lol - Okay. the next security patch is a clear colored hefty bag and twist tie? - type all commands through a layer of plastic and don't attach ANYTHING?
[01:10] <hybrid_goth> mjr: really?
[01:10] <Razor-X> are they going to make Eterm a bit more Xterm/Rxvt compatible (in the sense of encoding)?
[01:11] <eth42> DekaPink: what driver do you use, can you tell?
[01:11] <hybrid_goth> IIIEars: heh
[01:11] <Razor-X> stevenj: I can argue one hundred and one ways
[01:11] <Razor-X> better yet, Leo Laporte put a fresh Windows install on the internet unprotected
[01:11] <mjr> hybrid_goth, this is what I read (though apparently you may be able to disable the DMA functionality at least on some firewire hosts)
[01:11] <DekaPink>  eth42: Uh... Whatever Ubuntu gives it by default, I guess. :3
[01:11] <catlin> kubuntu-desktop: no results
[01:11] <Razor-X> and in 5 minutes, it became infected with Sasser
[01:11] <Razor-X> that's why i've been seeing a lot of paranoid Windows users coming here nowadays
[01:11] <mjr> hybrid_goth, a quick google found me this: http://www.addict3d.org/index.php?page=viewarticle&type=security&ID=2426
[01:12] <nalioth> !tell catlin about sources
[01:12] <Razor-X> they live in a warzone, a fscking warzone
[01:12] <catlin> ah
[01:12] <nebular> why is there no 2.6.10 kernel source in hoary?
[01:12] <catlin> good ole sources
[01:12] <desrt> nebular; there is
[01:12] <desrt> nebular; apt-get install linux-source
[01:12] <Razor-X> it's a constant LotR style war against the multitudes of malware
[01:12] <Razor-X> nebular: what desrt said
[01:12] <stevenj> Razor-X, it sucks....it is constantly being the servers down to patch them...and he very parinoid and will not get anyone admin rights...maybe we will get a virus and then they will know I was right
[01:12] <catlin> i believe that must mean i gotta edit some of the repositories
[01:12] <Razor-X> I wish you luck compiling your own kernel!
[01:12] <nalioth> catlin: stand by
[01:13] <hybrid_goth> mjr: sweet!
[01:13] <Razor-X> stevenj: Novell outpaces Windows hundred-fold
[01:13] <Razor-X> but, BSD is the best for a server
[01:13] <nalioths_dog> catlin: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[01:13] <nalioths_dog> catlin: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[01:13] <Razor-X> that guy needs a better IT department, seriously
[01:13] <nebular> ah, I was looking for kernel-source
[01:13] <hybrid_goth> bsd is best security
[01:13] <eth42> DekaPink: just a guess: add  Load "dri" and Load "glx"  into the modules section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:13] <Razor-X> BSD is rock solid
[01:13] <Razor-X> hard to use, but rock solid
[01:13] <hybrid_goth> if you want no package to come in without out your safe chose bsd
[01:13] <n0nya> good morning nalioth
[01:13] <stevenj> Razor-X, this guy even talked his way for a ISA server good God
[01:13] <hybrid_goth> OpenBSD one hole in 8 yrs
[01:13] <Razor-X> if you want to go to DefCon with an _installed_ OS, then you're going to need BSD
[01:14] <DekaPink> eth42: Thanks, I'll try that. :)
[01:14] <nalioth> catlin: the dogs ifno should fix you up
[01:14] <Razor-X> stevenj: I can draft something for your boss ;)
[01:14] <nalioth> n0nya: howdy
[01:14] <stevenj> Razor-X, I would like that
[01:14] <Razor-X> my suggestion for you DefConers is the following:
[01:14] <stevenj> Razor-X, thanks
[01:14] <Razor-X> bring a bad laptop
[01:14] <n0nya> will call u afterwhile, am hungry
[01:14] <DekaPink> eth42: Those are already there. :3
[01:14] <Razor-X> stevenj: i'll discuss it in a PM in a minute
[01:14] <Razor-X> bring a Linux Live CD
[01:15] <n0nya> my filthy phone is on again
[01:15] <Razor-X> ask at least 2 of your sysadmin friends for SSH shells
[01:15] <n0nya> had to buy a charger
[01:15] <catlin> :-\
[01:15] <n0nya> left mine in tn
[01:15] <Razor-X> port forward your ports through the various SSH shells you have
[01:15] <mjr> hybrid_goth, to be precise, I just found indications that at least some firewire adapters also allow for filtering of dma requests, if the operating system supports it (I haven't really followed if support has been added since that vulnerability was publicized)
[01:15] <Razor-X> then chain through as many proxies as possible
[01:15] <catlin> what is the equivalent to a right click in Ubuntu if you have a Mac
[01:15] <eth42> DekaPink: what does "glxinfo | grep rendering" say?
[01:15] <catlin> i was thinking control
[01:15] <catlin> or command
[01:15] <catlin> then i thought a combo key of fn
[01:15] <Razor-X> and, oh yeah, do NOT use UPnP under ANY circumstances
[01:15] <Razor-X> disable ping responses
[01:16] <hybrid_goth> catlin: try shift click
[01:16] <catlin> but i am not sure what else
[01:16] <nalioth> catlin: f12 key
[01:16] <Razor-X> if you can, get a paranoid iptables script that only allows passive HTTP
[01:16] <DekaPink> eth42: direct rendering: No
[01:16] <pluffsy> are there someway to make curl continue where you left of downloading a file from http? I've read the man pages, and maybe I'm just stupid but I don't find anything but append which doesn't seem right.
[01:16] <Razor-X> there ya go, DefCon advice ;)
[01:16] <leviathann> what version of firefox is broken?
[01:16] <Razor-X> pluffsy: I don't think so
[01:16] <Razor-X> curl is a bit old
[01:16] <hybrid_goth> curl is nice
[01:16] <Razor-X> the only good feature of curl is that you can download multiple URLs at once
[01:16] <catlin> thanx nalioth
[01:16] <hybrid_goth> but wget owns everything
[01:16] <Razor-X> and the fact that curl puts to stdout
[01:17] <Razor-X> which equates to some bad shit when downloading multiple files
[01:17] <pluffsy> darn... I'm on macosx so I've got no wget right now.
[01:17] <Razor-X> pluffsy: they have wget ports for Mac OS X
[01:17] <pluffsy> Razor-X: yeah. But I like it by default like ubuntu ;)
[01:17] <Razor-X> pluffsy: so? ;)
[01:17] <Razor-X> customize your interface
[01:17] <IIIEars> Use statically assigned ip addresses where you can. - my consumer grade router and several others have a flaw that allows them to be reflashed using dhcp. (doh)
[01:17] <Razor-X> my Ubuntu's heavily modified ;)
[01:18] <Razor-X> IIIEars: oh yeah, that too
[01:18] <Razor-X> bring a static IP
[01:18] <Razor-X> your best bet is to allow only incoming and outgoing passive HTTP
[01:18] <Razor-X> because -- everyone is on the same network as you are
[01:18] <pluffsy> Razor-X: Is wget avalible via errrm what's it called. That porting project.
[01:18] <Razor-X> (or just SSH in and out)
[01:18] <Razor-X> pluffsy: Darwin?
[01:18] <pluffsy> noo
[01:18] <pluffsy> Fink
[01:18] <Razor-X> i'm pretty sure it's already there
[01:18] <hybrid_goth> Fink is nice
[01:19] <Razor-X> Windows has a port, and BSD has native wget
[01:19] <hybrid_goth> fink = mac cygwin
[01:19] <Razor-X> so, i'll bet Mac OS X does too
[01:19] <hybrid_goth> osx has wget if i remember correctly
[01:19] <hybrid_goth> panther did
[01:19] <pluffsy> last time I tried Fink it didn't work at all with my swedish keyboard or something so I got a bit scared off. I'll try it agian sometime
[01:19] <pluffsy> hybrid_goth: well in that case it was well hidden in my panther and tiger...
[01:19] <Razor-X> Mac works fine with Dvorak, from what i've seen
[01:19] <IIIEars> running a server and files from a tailored live DVD seems the only maintanace free way to do it. (no blogs from the home machine. :(  )
[01:19] <Razor-X> IIIEars: exactly
[01:20] <hybrid_goth> pluffsy: open the terminal and type wget google.com
[01:20] <hybrid_goth> should work
[01:20] <pluffsy> hybrid_goth: command not found :)
[01:20] <Razor-X> but, remember, you're on the same INTRANET as a bunch of DefCon hackers
[01:20] <Razor-X> which means, you want _only_ passive SSH incoming and outgoing connections
[01:20] <hybrid_goth> sigh
[01:20] <Razor-X> and make sure you're connecting via SSH2
[01:20] <hybrid_goth> =/
[01:20] <pluffsy> hybrid_goth: maybe you used Fink or something to install it?
[01:20] <Razor-X> else you'll get buffer overflowed like _that_
[01:21] <Razor-X> (that was my first exploit in my first wargames -- SSH Nuke ;)
[01:21] <supernix> this is the error I keep getting about ff
[01:21] <hybrid_goth> pluffsy: dont think so b/c it was at a school i was volunteering
[01:21] <hybrid_goth> anyways back on topic
[01:21] <catlin> :-\
[01:21] <Razor-X> maybe we should compile some DefCon advice
[01:21] <Razor-X> also, I suggest your Live CD be Knoppix STD
[01:21] <Razor-X> since it is security minded
[01:22] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: phlak
[01:22] <catlin> this is actually relatively faster than the warty version i demoed like a year ago on a buddy's computer
[01:22] <Razor-X> hybrid_goth: never heard of that
[01:22] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: ?!?!
[01:22] <Sputn1k> When i tryng to open a film with mplayer, only film screen opens, but it didnt shows film, i got win32codecs, output set to: xv
[01:22] <MartenH> Is there a message-bot in here?
[01:22] <hybrid_goth> Professional hackers linux assualt kit
[01:22] <IIIEars> phlak's authors make me worry what is hidden in the iso. FreeBSD please, - lol
[01:23] <othernoob> how do i update azureus <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[01:23] <hybrid_goth> get the .deb
[01:23] <hybrid_goth> unless it is in hoary apt
[01:23] <Collin> ok i have been using linux for 1 day
[01:23] <hybrid_goth> IIIEars: thats where i found of tripwire is phlak
[01:23] <catlin> yay
[01:23] <citrus_> how do upgrade to breezy
[01:23] <Collin> and i need to get a DCHP server going
[01:23] <citrus_> ?
[01:24] <catlin> you are now an official GURU
[01:24] <catlin> jst kidding
[01:24] <MartenH> I'm anout to give up on Ubuntu and linux... hitting the sack now, one last attempt tomorrow, sure hope I get it working!
[01:24] <Collin> but the online guide dosn't seem to work
[01:24] <IIIEars> Collin - Welcome!
[01:24] <Collin> lol
[01:24] <Collin> thank youy
[01:24] <othernoob> hybrid_goth: that is not the way it should be
[01:24] <catlin> god bless T3 internet
[01:24] <Collin> beats windows
[01:24] <Collin> lol
[01:24] <hybrid_goth> othernoob: ?
[01:24] <catlin> i just finished downloading almost 56 of the 165 packages in mere moments
[01:24] <IIIEars> tripwire is very good - takes a bit of time and knowledge to decipher logs.
[01:25] <catlin> well... i am going to go cook some food now
[01:25] <Collin> can nayone help on the DCHP server
[01:25] <Collin> ?
[01:25] <othernoob> hybrid_goth: azureus has an updater, it only requires to get the latest core. but it doesn't work on ubuntu
[01:25] <hybrid_goth> IIIEars: i know ppl that use tripwire instead of a firewall
[01:25] <Marupa> has anyone here tried to install ubuntu from knoppix livecd?
[01:25] <hybrid_goth> othernoob: well then IDK
[01:26] <IIIEars> was hoping development would start again on "ip personality" - use a profile to mimic a weaker OS. (Windows? - lol)
[01:26] <citrus_> how do upgrade to breezy
[01:26] <Collin> don';t do it
[01:26] <Collin> not yet
[01:26] <funkyHat> citrus_, dont
[01:26] <nalioth> citrus_: do you have a whole seperate machine?
[01:26] <Collin> yes
[01:26] <hybrid_goth> IIIEars: OS spoofing? heh nmap had a feature like that. IDK if they still do
[01:26] <citrus_> no
[01:26] <citrus_> but i have an extra partition
[01:27] <hybrid_goth> citrus_: are you a mad 31337 programing and debuging pro?
[01:27] <citrus_> lol
[01:27] <citrus_> no
[01:27] <jasoncohen> then don't!
[01:27] <citrus_> i just want to check it out
[01:27] <hybrid_goth> breezy isnt the best way to go
[01:27] <HrdwrBoB> IIIEars: the IP personality is intrinsically tied to the way the TCP/IP stack works
[01:27] <jasoncohen> believe me- you only want to use it as a testing box
[01:27] <citrus_> i have another partition that i can use  tho
[01:27] <hybrid_goth> unless you wanna learn the command line
[01:27] <jasoncohen> it's quite unstable at the moment
[01:27] <Collin> very much so
[01:27] <jasoncohen> citrus_, expect X not too work
[01:27] <jasoncohen> *to work
[01:27] <funkyHat> citrus_, breezy is broken at the moment, also it isn't likely to _look_ much different to hoary
[01:27] <citrus_> why is it so unstable right now?
[01:27] <Collin> it didn't for me
[01:28] <hybrid_goth> citrus_: you will learn to use w3m links2 wget irssi emacs etc
[01:28] <Collin> plus X froze my cpu when i tried to debug
[01:28] <citrus_> i know how to use all that
[01:28] <citrus_> except what is w3m
[01:28] <ghostdog> any experiences with udev and ipod?
[01:28] <hybrid_goth> citrus_: thats all you will be using
[01:28] <citrus_> lol
[01:28] <citrus_> no x huh?
[01:28] <hybrid_goth> citrus_: w3m is defualt cli browser
[01:28] <hybrid_goth> none
[01:28] <ghostdog> udev is not creating /dev/ipod node
[01:28] <hybrid_goth> links2 -g even crashes
[01:29] <citrus_> why is it so unstable  it has a release date october
[01:29] <hybrid_goth> oct != now
[01:29] <citrus_> LOL
[01:29] <citrus_> thanks
[01:29] <hybrid_goth> X is bugged major
[01:29] <hybrid_goth> citrus_: if they dont fix it X may not be updated
[01:29] <citrus_> hybrid_gothL have you tried it
[01:30] <hybrid_goth> yup
[01:30] <mmoscosa> Can anyone help me?!?!?! why cant i download a theme forme a weppage, i click on the link, loads and nothing happen, i have had this with some other rtings such as applications
[01:30] <thundrcleeze> My dad just shut down the ubuntu box I made for him by pressing the power button for 5 seconds until it shut off, now the BIOS won't even recognize the cd-rom drive, let alone the hard drive.  Any suggestions? :)
[01:30] <citrus_> what are the plans for it ?  just more updated programs  or is there sposed to be some crazy new ubuntu look to it
[01:30] <hybrid_goth> citrus_: i am running a livecd on my moms box b/c i couldnt get breezy to work and am waiting for tiger
[01:30] <hybrid_goth> then dual boot
[01:30] <HrdwrBoB> thundrcleeze: slap him upside the head
[01:31] <HrdwrBoB> thundrcleeze: that shouldn't happen
[01:31] <metrix> I am needing to VPN in from my ubuntu box to work and I need to know which vpn program uses the same vpn protocol as a stock windows 2000 box. does anyone know what I should use?
[01:31] <thundrcleeze> HrdwrBoB, no, it shouldn't.  It shouldn't be a linux problem, just a hardware problem.
[01:31] <jasoncohen> metrix, PPTP
[01:31] <jasoncohen> metrix, which is crap btw
[01:31] <IIIEars> waiting for  - ubuntu 7.0 "frighten the tiger"
[01:31] <citrus_> can't you just use an older X with breezy
[01:31] <ghostdog> ssh + x forwading?
[01:32] <jasoncohen> metrix, use openvpn + use the windows client on 2000. that's a much better solution and more expandable/powerful/secure!
[01:32] <benplaut> wait... what just changed in the topic?
[01:32] <jasoncohen> ghostdog, VPN is nicer for some purposes because you can do anything you could on the actual network.
[01:32] <NuuB> ok, getting somewhere (maybe) - found "/usr/share/gnome-applets/glade/modemlights.glade" - but i dont know what it's significance is, if any
[01:32] <crimsun> benplaut, mozilla-firefox 1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1
[01:32] <hybrid_goth> benplaut: you on shrooms?
[01:33] <thundrcleeze> HrdwrBoB, the hard drive light stays on, so I'm assuming it's fried.  Any suggestions, or should I just drop kick the box out the door (as well as my father)?
[01:33] <benplaut> oh
[01:33] <metrix> jasoncohen: openvpn + the windows client? I'm not sure I understand.. are you saying I should pull the windows client off of the cd and use it emulated on ubuntu?
[01:33] <jasoncohen> metrix, sorry- openvpn has a windows client
[01:33] <joolz> good evening
[01:33] <jasoncohen> metrix, http://openvpn.net/
[01:34] <joolz> any sign of a firefox / hoary solution yet?
[01:34] <TheSin> does ubuntu have a package search site like pacakges.debian.org?
[01:34] <br3ndan> anyone know where to find the rfc1345 input method for emacs in ubuntu hoary?
[01:34] <jasoncohen> metrix, openvpn is available on ubuntu in universe. there's an excellent howto here- http://openvpn.net/howto.html
[01:34] <metrix> jasoncohen: ahh ok! thank you :)
[01:34] <TheSin> sepcifically for breezy?
[01:34] <jasoncohen> metrix, openvpn uses public key authentication and TLS encryption
[01:34] <crimsun> joolz, 1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1 is in hoary-security
[01:34] <joolz> crimsun: thx!
[01:34] <IIIEars> "Please don't use BREEZY until it's Oct. release."   ?
[01:34] <joolz> crimsun: is that an officla repos?
[01:34] <joolz> ial
[01:35] <crimsun> hoary-security is an official repo.
[01:35] <jasoncohen> metrix, you can use public key authentication or use static keys
[01:35] <vader1102> IIIEars: I am afraid to after the questions I have seen in here about it lol
[01:35] <parabolize> joolz, I just removed firefox and installed the 'mozilla-firefox'. looks like it worked
[01:35] <jasoncohen> metrix, if you use public keys (SSL/TLS with public certificates), you can have hundreds of clients, fallback servers, load balancing, CRLs, encrypted keys etc.
[01:36] <learn25> Hi all.
[01:36] <jasoncohen> openvpn is much more secure than PPTP and will work on windows & linux
[01:36] <jasoncohen> as a server and a client
[01:36] <parabolize> joolz, just don't --purge
[01:36] <thundrcleeze> HrdwrBoB, I didn't think so. :)
[01:36] <TheSin> IIIEars, I use breezy
[01:36] <joolz> parabolize: i'm on hoary, so i guess there's only m-ff for me :)
[01:36] <TheSin> just don't use it if you want X11
[01:36] <metrix> jasoncohen, I think I understand. I have a sheet here in front of me that just tells me to have windows point to an ip address, and gives me a username and password to use.  It doesn't say anything about the encryption that is used.
[01:36] <IIIEars> vader - some interesting tweaks needed for fonts/resizing them, compiler is different also (guru level knowledge needed to run it.)
[01:36] <TheSin> it's a mess withthe XOrg switch
[01:36] <learn25> How come when i attempt to upgrade to firefox 1.0.6 the installation got an error? Ubuntu bugs???
[01:36] <br3ndan> anyone know where to find the rfc1345 input method for emacs in ubuntu hoary?
[01:36] <TheSin> missing all the font utils so it won't even start as is
[01:37] <vini> please, how can I install mplayer?
[01:37] <crimsun> learn25, there are no Ubuntu bugs upgrading to 1.0.6
[01:37] <benplaut> i'm not getting wind of any updates, for some reason
[01:37] <vader1102> IIIEars: I don't plan on using it until they send me a disk withit on it and everything I read in here says it is ok lol
[01:37] <learn25> there is
[01:37] <jasoncohen> metrix, that's PPTP- it uses passwords for authentication which usually can be easily broken. it's hard to centrally administer accounts and it has security flaws
[01:37] <crimsun> vini, wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:37] <parabolize> joolz, im in hoary to... the 'firefox' package must be from backports.
[01:37] <jasoncohen> it uses MPPE - 128 bit encryption based off RC4 i belive
[01:37] <HrdwrBoB> jasoncohen: which has systemic flaws
[01:37] <learn25> i have a message in my ubuntu there is an update: firefox 1.0.6
[01:37] <HrdwrBoB> and has been broken in more than one way
[01:38] <jasoncohen> HrdwrBoB, yup
[01:38] <crimsun> learn25, mozilla-firefox, yes.
[01:38] <JingleBells> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox
[01:38] <HrdwrBoB> which means, any kidder can break it
[01:38] <jasoncohen> that's why PPTP is just not worth it
[01:38] <joolz> parabolize: ooooh baby! YES! it's there, finally!
[01:38] <JingleBells> i get ^^ when updating to firefox 1.0.6
[01:38] <metrix> jasoncohen: ahh. I see
[01:38] <HrdwrBoB> kiddy even
[01:38] <learn25> but gotan error when i tried to update
[01:38] <IIIEars> vader1102 - "" - call me lazy if you like i'll just be surfing and using my favorite apps while you Breezy users recompile things
[01:38] <crimsun> JingleBells, the error's staring you in the face. *cough*backports
[01:38] <bob2> JingleBells: you're using breezy or backports?
[01:38] <JingleBells> hedgehog
[01:39] <JingleBells> you're saying I have to remove firefox before updating?
[01:39] <joolz> imnsho last fridays firefox was one of the worst things that happened to ubuntu ever
[01:39] <jasoncohen> JingleBells, he's saying you're using backports
[01:39] <crimsun> JingleBells, yes, because you installed from backports, which is absolutely not recommended.
[01:39] <jasoncohen> so you're not upgrading from a hoary package
[01:39] <bob2> joolz: ?
[01:39] <jasoncohen> crimsun, i'm not sure you're correct
[01:39] <JingleBells> the update manager in the top corner popped up with it
[01:39] <joolz> bob2: maybe i should have added the keyword hoary
[01:39] <jasoncohen> crimsun, the version # on backports is higher.
[01:40] <thundrcleeze> I'm curious why it says firefox is broken, it seems to work fine for me, or is it a security flaw?
[01:40] <joolz> no tabs, no plugins. For me that's as good as: no ff
[01:40] <jasoncohen> crimsun,  1.0.6-1ubuntu1~5.04ubp1
[01:40] <parabolize> joolz, firefox in hoary would be a bit better
[01:40] <jasoncohen> crimsun, v. official = 1.0.6-0ubuntu0.1.
[01:40] <parabolize> :)
[01:40] <clambert_> are the us ubuntu apt mirrors offline?
[01:40] <bob2> joolz: the problem was the upstream developers not being as careful as they should be
[01:40] <jasoncohen> thundrcleeze, it's broken with some extensions
[01:41] <thundrcleeze> jasoncohen, no security flaw, though?
[01:41] <joolz> bob2: yes, i guess
[01:41] <jasoncohen> clambert_, they've been semi-broken for a while now
[01:41] <jasoncohen> thundrcleeze, no
[01:41] <JingleBells> only diff between 1.0.6 and 1.0.5 is extension API
[01:41] <JingleBells> so how do I go about fixing this error?
[01:41] <thundrcleeze> joolz, tabs seem to work okay with me.
[01:41] <joolz> bob2: i don't mean to knock ubuntu, but this was a really bad mistake
[01:41] <jasoncohen> JingleBells, dpkg -l mozilla-firefox
[01:41] <JingleBells> will that lose my profile info?
[01:41] <jasoncohen> paste the "ii mozilla-firefox' line
[01:42] <crimsun> jasoncohen, I'm not sure what you're referring to regarding "correct"
[01:42] <soultaker> hello to all
[01:42] <jasoncohen> crimsun, i was saying that if he had 1.0.6 from backports-staging, he wouldn't be asked to upgrade to 1.0.6 from hoary
[01:42] <vini> then... how can I change subtitles size on Totem?
[01:42] <jasoncohen> but if he's using 1.0.4 from backports it would cause the problem
[01:43] <jasoncohen> crimsun, because the versioning on the backports package is higher than on the 1.0.6 hoary package
[01:43] <parabolize> joolz, I just used the backports package for the time. :)
[01:43] <soultaker> I have a question of the screen saver lightning  is black is not show anything I just install the Nvidia drives
[01:43] <crimsun> jasoncohen, right, but I made no distinction between backports*
[01:43] <bob2> there is no 1.0.6 hoary package
[01:43] <Dr_Melectaus_> is sit0 my wifi card?
[01:43] <jasoncohen> yeah, i forgot that 1.0.6 was in staging
[01:43] <jasoncohen> bob2, don't you sign up for security notices?
[01:43] <bob2> joolz: right, upstream didn't test their security fix properly
[01:43] <jasoncohen> bob2, just sent 6:50 PM EST today
[01:44] <joolz> well, ff 1.0.6 from hoary-security seems to work ok. Thx people! :)
[01:44] <IIIEars> soultaker - i am a bit new. you may need nvidia-glx
[01:44] <soultaker> i got
[01:44] <jasoncohen> Dr_Melectaus_, no- probably your modem
[01:44] <bob2> ouch
[01:44] <vader1102> IIIEars: I am a lot new lol
[01:44] <soultaker> i got it know the screen looks cool
[01:45] <soultaker> like is using my video card on the right way
[01:45] <jasoncohen> JingleBells, what does dpkg -l mozilla-firefox show you?
[01:45] <Dr_Melectaus_> jasoncohen, i doubt it, i use a bridged connection via a cat5 cross over, and eth0 is the other one on the list
[01:45] <jasoncohen> if you have backports and you want 1.0.6 you'll need to remove mozilla-firefox and firefox and install from hoary
[01:45] <JingleBells> ii  mozilla-firefox 1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5 dummy transitional package
[01:45] <IIIEars> soultaker - wish i knew the command line check fo GL in XORG. - could it be that GL isn't enabled?
[01:45] <jasoncohen> Dr_Melectaus_, no modem?
[01:46] <Dr_Melectaus_> jasoncohen, i get my internet connection via eth0
[01:46] <HrdwrBoB> IIIEars: glxinfo
[01:46] <jasoncohen> Dr_Melectaus_, i usually see wireless as eth+1 (eth1 or eth2) or ath0 for atheros
[01:46] <soultaker> okdoky i need to enable the GL
[01:46] <citrus_> soultaker:  make sure   nvidia-glx  nvidia-kernel are installed  and then "sudo modprobe nvidia" then edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file says driver "nvidia"  instead of driver "nv" then "sudo killall gdm" then run gdm and it should start your nvidia xorg
[01:46] <Dr_Melectaus_> its n edimax
[01:46] <soultaker> cool you are tell me the solution let me serch on my lenguaje
[01:46] <Dr_Melectaus_> wif0 or wifi0 or something
[01:46] <HrdwrBoB> soultaker: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:47] <soultaker> thanks
[01:47] <soultaker> :)
[01:47] <vader1102> Dr_Melectaus: mine is ath
[01:47] <Dr_Melectaus_> For some reason my cd/dvd drive wont detect data DVD's
[01:47] <Dr_Melectaus_> it detects Movie DVD's
[01:47] <IIIEars> HrdwrBoB - You might just make a competent linux user out of me yet. - If i am not too careful - rofl
[01:48] <JingleBells> so how do I fix this problem?
[01:48] <Dr_Melectaus_> but it wont mount data dvds
[01:48] <Dr_Melectaus_> anyone know if this is a common prob
[01:48] <Dr_Melectaus_> or of a way to fix it
[01:48] <rgould> Does ubuntu come with a command line program to generate md5 files?
[01:48] <rgould> n/m
[01:48] <crimsun> JingleBells, purge firefox, and install/update mozilla-firefox
[01:48] <jasoncohen> JingleBells, as crimsun suspected, you have backports installed
[01:48] <IIIEars> rgould "md5sum"
[01:48] <mdipi> Hey all, I'm having a problem with my dual boot OS X/Ubuntu setup, I updated OS X recently, and now my yaboot has disapeared, and I have no clue what I should do, anyone think that they can help?
[01:49] <rgould> IIIEars, thanks
[01:49] <jasoncohen> crimsun, he needs to purge- not just uninstall?
[01:49] <jasoncohen> JingleBells, sudo apt-get remove mozilla-firefox
[01:49] <jasoncohen> sorry- sudo apt-get remove firefox mozilla-firefox
[01:49] <jasoncohen> then "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox"
[01:49] <citrus_> i would really like to get movie preview (icon image of the movie) working in nautilus  i know it can be done. can anyone help?
[01:50] <crimsun> jasoncohen, removing may suffice, but I tend not to suggest solutions that may work
[01:50] <soultaker> Identifier      "NVIDIA Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] "
[01:50] <soultaker>         Driver          "nvidia"
[01:50] <soultaker>         BusID           "PCI:1:0:0"
[01:50] <Dr_Melectaus_> For some reason my cd/dvd drive wont detect data DVD's
[01:50] <Dr_Melectaus_> anyone know if this is a common prob
[01:50] <Dr_Melectaus_> or of a way to fix it
[01:50] <JingleBells> ah ta, running 1.0.6
[01:50] <soultaker> i love linux!!!!!
[01:50] <JingleBells> it seems when setting up ubuntu with repositories i added a "backport" repository
[01:50] <JingleBells> i take it they are bad?
[01:51] <citrus_> i use em
[01:51] <jasoncohen> JingleBells, they aren't necessarily bad but they can break things
[01:51] <mdipi> anyone think they know about a workaround for the problem above?
[01:51] <jasoncohen> it should be better when it actually goes official and begins using the ubuntu repos
[01:51] <jasoncohen> it's technically official now
[01:51] <jasoncohen> JingleBells, most people should just use hoary packages unless you need something from backports
[01:52] <JingleBells> right, i've unselected that from the package manager too :)
[01:52] <JingleBells> how about hoary-extras?
[01:53] <jasoncohen> hoary-extras includes packages that haven't been included in hoary - many for legal reasons
[01:53] <jasoncohen> like libdvdcss2 for commercial dvd playback, w32codecs for realplayer, quicktime, windows media video, transcode etc
[01:53] <catlin> omg it's changing
[01:53] <IIIEars> midipi - this what if found. - i hope it helps http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-30321.html  ndex of /packages/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/y/yaboot-installer
[01:53] <catlin> look everybody... it's changing
[01:53] <catlin> take that sub-space
[01:54] <mdipi> IIIEars: Thanks! I'll look there now
[01:54] <catlin> mmm... nocharge is my favorite word
[01:55] <catlin> that and free
[01:55] <catlin> those are my favorite words
[01:55] <Dr_Melectaus_> Does anyone here know how to install the drivers for a PCMCIA WiFi card?
[01:55] <catlin> yea pop in the CD and click the setup.exe
[01:55] <Dr_Melectaus_> i have the windows disc and it has the drivers on it. i cant find any help on wiki
[01:55] <catlin> and viola
[01:55] <vader1102> which card?
[01:55] <Dr_Melectaus_> catlin, its a windows disc
[01:55] <Dr_Melectaus_> edimax
[01:55] <qt2> might anyon reccomend some good, simple RSS readers?
[01:55] <catlin> oh...
[01:56] <vader1102> what chipset?
[01:56] <Dr_Melectaus_> edimax ew-7108pcg
[01:56] <catlin> you aren't using windows?
[01:56] <gpd_> qt2 lifera
[01:56] <Dr_Melectaus_> im useing ubuntu
[01:56] <catlin> what the hell other operating systems are there?
[01:56] <catlin> WINDOWS IS THE ONLY ONE
[01:56] <catlin> kidding
[01:56] <catlin> haha
[01:56] <Dr_Melectaus_> O_o
[01:56] <catlin> joking
[01:56] <catlin> i use Mac OS X
[01:56] <catlin> and Ubuntu
[01:56] <Dr_Melectaus_> vader1102, how do i find out the chipset O_o
[01:57] <vader1102> Dr_Melectaus: google it
[01:57] <catlin> bbl.. gotta go bury my dog
[01:57] <catlin> :-(
[01:57] <joolz> catlin: bon appetit
[01:57] <joolz> (just kidding)
[01:57] <Dr_Melectaus_> it says on wiki under my card for chipset " niswrapper -i NET8180.INF"
[01:57] <vader1102> then google that
[01:58] <vader1102> and do what it says for ubuntu
[01:58] <Dr_Melectaus_> uhm, vader1102. what am i looking for when i google for it?
[01:58] <vader1102> "nidiwrapper -i net8180 ubuntu
[01:58] <vader1102> ndiswrapper^^
[01:59] <mdipi> IIIEars: Thanks, but that assumes OS X isnt there right now :-/ And I cant uninstall, Yaboot is before my OS X partition but my swap and Ubuntu partitions are after
[01:59] <qt2> gpd_, err, how about one available in synaptic?
[02:00] <Dr_Melectaus_> vader1102, what am i googleing for
[02:00] <Dr_Melectaus_> i was asking in here because its a tad easier. Ive tried google and wiki and got jack shit
[02:01] <vader1102> one sec
[02:01] <Dr_Melectaus_> kk
[02:01] <catlin> jack shit??
[02:01] <Dr_Melectaus_> yes
[02:01] <catlin> is that some new actor
[02:01] <catlin> ?
[02:01] <Dr_Melectaus_> not jack schit
[02:01] <gpd_> qt2 apt-get install liferea
[02:02] <catlin> ok.. so now that i setup kubuntu do i have to restart for changes to take effect?
[02:04] <catlin> do i?
[02:04] <gpd_> catlin: unlikely... just log out and login with kde session
[02:04] <drew> !mountwindows
[02:04] <ubotu> it has been said that mountwindows is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:04] <vader1102> Dr_Melectaus: I am looking to see what other people have used
[02:04] <phixion> what's the command to find my ip on my lan?
[02:05] <darinlh> ifconfig
[02:05] <huttan> Hi, I got my wireless network working yesterday, and today when I reboot my laptop it doesnt work and it gives me "failed to send SSID" on startup
[02:05] <phixion> thx mate
[02:05] <darinlh> np ;)
[02:05] <huttan> can anyone tell me what an SSID is, and how I set it up please?
[02:06] <uber_newber> hey everyone i wanna install my lynksis wireless b usb network adapter and so far iv heard i need drivers. so i have 2 of them.
[02:06] <Dr_Melectaus_> thanks vader1102
[02:06] <Dr_Melectaus_> vader1102, where abouts are you looking
[02:06] <uber_newber> using tecra 8000 toshiba proc 2
[02:06] <vader1102> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5645&page=2
[02:06] <vader1102> try that
[02:06] <Dr_Melectaus_> if you checking wiki, then i doubt youll find anything
[02:06] <Dr_Melectaus_> ok
[02:06] <[adw] > huttan: SSID is the network id, and sent by the router
[02:06] <uber_newber> can sum1 help me out
[02:07] <citrus_> could someone tell me how to convert my bin/cue files    to iso??
[02:07] <huttan> [adw] , Do you have any idea how to fix it? it worked fine 24 hours ago
[02:07] <hybrid_goth>  Linux is very popular with students because of its low-cost, good marketing of its GPL ``ideology'', and a reasonable distrust of Microsoft.
[02:07] <hybrid_goth> oops wrong channel
[02:07] <hybrid_goth> sorry
[02:07] <Sputn1k> how to delete compilet package?
[02:07] <hybrid_goth> so sorry
[02:08] <Dr_Melectaus_> bollocks.
[02:08] <uber_newber> can sum1 help me install my lynksis wireless b usb network adapter
[02:08] <vader1102> ok, hold on, will get some more
[02:08] <Dr_Melectaus_> vader1102, no no
[02:08] <Dr_Melectaus_> not that
[02:08] <Dr_Melectaus_> uhm, i think im haveing some browser probs
[02:08] <darinlh> Sputn1k, apt-get remove (--purge) packagename
[02:09] <Dr_Melectaus_> i cant resolve url's
[02:09] <Dr_Melectaus_> dns is humped somehow
[02:09] <vader1102> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/post-243922.html
[02:09] <uber_newber> can sum1 help me install my lynksis wireless b usb network adapter. iv been trying to for weeks now and havent been able to.
[02:09] <vader1102> try that one
[02:09] <Dr_Melectaus_> vader1102, read up lol
[02:09] <darinlh> woot firefox working :)
[02:09] <Dr_Melectaus_> ill sort this first then check um
[02:10] <vader1102> ok will have the url
[02:10] <Dr_Melectaus_> cheers vader1102
[02:10] <Sputn1k> darinlh: but it only delete packages, which are installed from apt-get
[02:10] <gpd> uber_newber: what model is it?
[02:11] <IIIEars> bemplaut - "banishes" hybrid_goth -  lol - He wasn't in the microft-dev channel again was he? - lol
[02:11] <uber_newber> the wireless carde?
[02:11] <darinlh> Sputn1k, is the package that you are trying to delete a deb or a sourc/whatever.ter?
[02:11] <darinlh> Sputn1k, is the package that you are trying to delete a deb or a sourc/whatever.tar?
[02:12] <citrus_> could someone tell me how to convert my bin/cue files    to iso??
[02:12] <Sputn1k> ive installed it from source
[02:12] <Amaranth> citrus_: bchunk or bin2iso
[02:12] <gpd> citrus_: just burn the bin/cue directly...
[02:12] <uber_newber> gpd: the lynksis wireless b usb network adapter is WUSB11 ver 2.8
[02:12] <Amaranth> gpd: Do gnomebaker or k3b support bin/cue?
[02:13] <darinlh> did you place it in its own directory?
[02:13] <citrus_> don't want to burn
[02:13] <citrus_> but thats
[02:13] <citrus_> thanks
[02:14] <Amaranth> citrus_: ah, just downloaded some cool new movie? :/
[02:14] <gpd> http://mange.dynup.net/linux/bin2iso/bin2iso.c <-- just compile and run
[02:14] <Amaranth> gpd: is that the latest version?
[02:14] <bob2> bchunk is in ubuntu and does that
[02:14] <Amaranth> gpd: i'm on a terminal right now, opening that link is kinda hard :)
[02:14] <citrus_> no but i just saw  devils rejects last night      fucking awesome movie
[02:15] <IIIEars> Amaranth - i believe k3b supports bin/cue
[02:15] <Amaranth> citrus_: Please don't swear.
[02:15] <turkuaz> elo every1, just wondering-- is X still broken in breezy?
[02:15] <gpd> Amaranth: wget url... not that hard at all ;) but try bchunk first
[02:15] <bob2> turkuaz: yes
[02:15] <Amaranth> gpd: wget, haha, i mean i'm too lazy to manually copy that over to another tty
[02:15] <citrus_> pardon my french
[02:15] <citrus_> lol
[02:16] <turkuaz> bob2, thanks
[02:16] <uber_newber> can sum1 help me install my lynksis wireless b usb network adapter
[02:16] <uber_newber> its WUSB11 ver2.8
[02:16] <turkuaz> does anyone know of any gnome apps, that can be used as an alarm clock (play an mp3 eg. at a given time)
[02:16] <Amaranth> can't evolution do that?
[02:17] <Amaranth> i mean, play an mp3 as an alarm
[02:17] <gpd> uber_newber: you will just have to google 'wusb11 linux' and hope... doubt if anyone would know more than you could find out
[02:17] <turkuaz> Amaranth, can it?
[02:17] <mjr> I dunno; "sleep 9h && mpg321 foo.mp3" ;)
[02:17] <uber_newber> gpd: allright thanx
[02:17] <citrus_> is bin2iso in the repositories?
[02:18] <IIIEars> xmms alarm may be worht a look
[02:18] <Eilonwy05> anybody have a suggestion on what to do about "unknown module version" messages related to SCSI drivers needed by SATA controller in order to boot?  I upgraded my kernel to <IP_ADDRESS> from the standard Hoary 2.6.10-5 kernel and did make oldconfig, then created an initrd... next boot=kernel panic
[02:18] <gpd> citrus_: use bchunk
[02:19] <mcphail> turkuaz: man at
[02:19] <stevenj> has anyone tried debian testing yet?
[02:21] <bob2> thousands of people use it
[02:22] <leviathann> what version of firefox is broken?
[02:22] <bob2> Eilonwy05: if you're going to create a new kernel, I'd not bother with an initrd
[02:22] <scott> anyone know of a terminal program that changes common text representations of progress bars to graphical representations or allows textured fonts (like jaderholm.com/files/font.jpg)? also, what is a good file manager that lends itself to being used from the keyboard, and has graphics (useful and limited ones)? finally, have there been any new window managers with a noticably different approach to come out in the last year or two? a good console mp3 player with
[02:22] <bob2> fm, nautilus is ok, but nothing really compares with zsh
[02:22] <tahorg> anyone here has tried ubuntu 64 on p4 64bits ?
[02:22] <bob2> ion3 and ratpoison have a fairly different approach
[02:23] <bob2> cplay's a nice console musicplayr
[02:23] <scott> bob2, yeah, I use ion3, but they're pretty old
[02:23] <citrus_> gpf: how do i get a iso out of that program   i tried  bchunk *.bin *.cue foo   and all i get is foo.ugh
[02:23] <MrGardenHoseMan> what's a good burning program for linux?
[02:23] <leviathann> k3b
[02:23] <leviathann> MrGardenHoseMan, ^
[02:23] <parabolize> stevenj, my guess would be a few million people. ;)
[02:23] <Sputn1k> how to delete prgoram which are installed from .deb?
[02:23] <MrGardenHoseMan> thanks
[02:23] <bob2> nautilus (the file manager) is fine for burning data cds
[02:24] <bob2> Sputn1k: mark them for removal in synaptic
[02:24] <Sputn1k> right :)
[02:24] <othernoob> citrus_: what are you trying to do anyway?
[02:24] <citrus_> convert file.bin and file.cue to file.iso
[02:24] <parabolize> MrGardenHoseMan, gnomebaker or k3b
[02:24] <bob2> citrus_: just use bchunk
[02:24] <othernoob> citrus_: for what?
[02:25] <gpd> citrus_: bchunk foo.bin foo.cue foo
[02:25] <bob2> or reextract them in a less useles format
[02:25] <citrus_> i tried that and i got foo.ugh
[02:25] <bob2> you read the help text?
[02:25] <othernoob> citrus_: are you only interestedi n burning the cue/bin or what?
[02:26] <Eilonwy05> anybody have a suggestion on what to do about "unknown module version" messages related to SCSI drivers needed by SATA controller in order to boot?  I upgraded my kernel to <IP_ADDRESS> from the standard Hoary 2.6.10-5 kernel and did make oldconfig, then created an initrd... next boot=kernel panic
[02:26] <jbailey> Eilonwy05: Why did you upgrade your kernel?
[02:26] <bob2> as above, don't use an initrd
[02:26] <jbailey> Eilonwy05: In general my suggest is Just Don't Do It.
[02:26] <scott> bob2: thanks, cplay looks awesome. anyway to get it to have cool colors?
[02:26] <bob2> don't think so
[02:26] <jbailey> Eilonwy05: The distro is only tested in the kernel config that it's shipped with.
[02:27] <jbailey> Eilonwy05: For instance, I beleive udev is known to break if you move to 2.6.12
[02:27] <evo> is there away to get the gnome main menu to update when new icons are added?
[02:27] <Eilonwy05> jbailey: I couldn't run current ATI drivers that support my laptop's X300 with the shipped kernel
[02:28] <citrus_> othernoob: i am trying to install windowsxp in vmware  so i mounted the windowsxp.cue with cdemu  but when i used vmware to install it  i think some recursive error happened and it freezes my system  at first i thought it was vmware  but i tried hoary.iso and it worked fine   there for i want to convert my windowsxp.bin to windowsxp.iso      are you going to be able to help me?
[02:28] <r0d> evo like icon themes?>
[02:28] <citrus_> gpd:  do you know why it outputted foo.ugh?
[02:28] <jbailey> Eilonwy05: Ugh.  There's no version for 2.6.10 that supports it?
[02:29] <the--dud> excellent if folks could comment on the HOWTO I posted on ubuntuforums here --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51942
[02:29] <the--dud> :)
[02:29] <gpd> citrus_: no idea... what does file foo.ugh say?
[02:29] <leviathann> what version of firefox is broken?
[02:29] <evo> r0d: no i mean when  a new .desktop file is added
[02:29] <othernoob> citrus_: it actually surprises me more that you have a windowsxp.cue ...so no ;)
[02:29] <gpd> citrus_: just put your xp disk in the cdrom and do dd if=/mnt/cdrom of=windowsxp.iso
[02:30] <the--dud> the cat ate it I tell you!
[02:30] <huttan> This is strange, I can find my accesspoint, the networkcard seems to work fine, everything is setup right and still I cant ping my router
[02:30] <IIIEars> leviathann - the current update has everything working perfectly. - haven't noticed a problem d/l ing files?
[02:30] <paulproteus> huttan: Maybe the router drops pings.
[02:31] <paulproteus> Try pinging Google, see if that works.
[02:31] <huttan> the only clue I have is "temporary failure in name resolution" at bootup after it sycns the clock
[02:31] <leviathann> how do I make the nvidia-glx drivers default?
[02:31] <ColonelKernel> im still have problems with dns resolution, it is very slow w ubuntu - i have already disabled ipv6
[02:31] <paulproteus> huttan: That sounds like the routes aren't working.
[02:31] <leviathann> IIIEars, that's why I asked, I'm trying to download a file from filefront.com but the d/l won't start.
[02:31] <paulproteus> ColonelKernel: In firefox, or across the whole system?
[02:31] <mekgp> hey gents! got a joystick question....
[02:31] <huttan> paulproteus, any idea on how to fix it?
[02:31] <ColonelKernel> paulproteus system-wide
[02:31] <paulproteus> ColonelKernel: Try this DNS server:
[02:31] <paulproteus> <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:31] <paulproteus> Put that in /etc/resolv.conf .
[02:32] <ColonelKernel> paulproteus its just going to get overwritten
[02:32] <IIIEars> leviathann - yes - had that glitch also - update posted fixed it. Ubuntu update manger fixed it.
[02:32] <paulproteus> ColonelKernel: Well, try it and see. ;)
[02:32] <paulproteus> There's a way to make it permanent.  If it works well for you, then we'll try to make it permanent.
[02:32] <phlit> heyu guys - what's the best/easiest way to get back to w working firefox? 1.0.6 freezes whole system almost instantly
[02:33] <sorush20> guys  are you have problems with mozilla firefox 1.0.6
[02:33] <paulproteus> phlit: Your whole system?
[02:33] <ColonelKernel> paulproteus it gets faster whenever I change it, then it will get slow again after a while
[02:33] <bob2> the--dud: show what lines to alter in sources.list, instead of using line numbers. advocating installing server will probably cause problems for people later, so make sure you mention it\'s a big deviation fro normal ubuntu. no need to install kde and gnome libs manually, anything that uses them will Depend on them. put it on the wiki!
[02:33] <leviathann> IIIEars, thanks
[02:33] <paulproteus> ColonelKernel: Ah.
[02:33] <phlit> paulproteus, yes, hard reboot needed
[02:33] <Eilonwy05> jbailey: nope.  I had to d/l the ATI drivers from ati.com, make a couple changes to the kernel module code to get it to compile.. I used a supplied .config from the Linux on Laptops site for my model, and it all worked except for my CD-ROM.. then I tried make mrproper and make oldconfig to see if I had any better luck.. and I got unknown module version on all the scsi modules
[02:33] <ColonelKernel> I put it on qwests DNS servers for a while before, it got faster for a lil while then it slowed down again
[02:34] <paulproteus> phlit: I'd urgently install the memtest86+ package and test your RAM.  No program should be able to make the system freeze.
[02:34] <paulproteus> ColonelKernel: Then ask how to make permanent changes do your DNS.
[02:34] <ColonelKernel> im thinking theres something seriously borked with whatever does DNS resolution in ubuntu
[02:34] <bob2> Eilonwy05: the default ubuntu kernel didn't work on your system, support your cdrom, etc?
[02:34] <the--dud> bob2, indeed... if you're registered on the forums, feel free to post that and such ;)
[02:34] <ColonelKernel> paulproteus well it works fine with the default dns servers in debian and in windows
[02:34] <ColonelKernel> its only ubuntu I have problems with
[02:35] <bob2> the--dud: if it was on the wiki, other people could just fix things diretly ;)
[02:35] <the--dud> well, by not installing the kde/gnome libs manually, they will install a lot more than just the essentials
[02:35] <occy> Yay! new FF's
[02:35] <phlit> paulproteus, the system's been fine till the update - DBing to XP and no such issues - and Ubuntu running perfectly fine, except for firefox
[02:35] <bob2> the--dud: no, not true at all
[02:35] <Eilonwy05> bob2: no, the default kernel worked for my CD, but not with the current ATI drivers to support my laptop's X300 card
[02:35] <the--dud> argh, I'd have to format it all over again for the wiki >_<
[02:35] <paulproteus> ColonelKernel: Interesting.  Does lsmod|grep ipv show anything?
[02:35] <bob2> Eilonwy05: that seems very odd
[02:35] <scott> anyone had problems with page up/down not working in screen?
[02:35] <the--dud> wiki syntax is so backwards to me...
[02:35] <bob2> scott: do you mean shift pageup/pagedown?
[02:35] <mekgp> anybody give some guidance on making a Saitek x45 work with Ubuntu?  The system recognizes it, just cant cali or use it in games!! :(
[02:35] <the--dud> bob2, I've experienced that before, but you might be right
[02:36] <ColonelKernel> paulproteus no
[02:36] <ColonelKernel> jsut an empty line
[02:36] <scott> bob2, yeah
[02:36] <paulproteus> ColonelKernel: Hmm, very well.
[02:36] <IIIEars> !mouse
[02:36] <ubotu> methinks mouse is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntellimouseMousemanBackForwardButtons
[02:36] <bob2> scott: ctrl-a ]  pageup
[02:36] <IIIEars> Hope that helps
[02:37] <scott> bob2, that just says empty buffer
[02:37] <ColonelKernel> paulproteus yeah for instance I just switched back to the regular dns servers (from <IP_ADDRESS>) and its workign fine
[02:37] <mcphail> Does Ubuntu have any video editing software?
[02:37] <ColonelKernel> I dont know what the problem is but its a real bummer scene.
[02:37] <paulproteus> ColonelKernel: "its working fine" - you mean firefox?
[02:38] <mjr> mcphail, it has kino, dunno how it is
[02:38] <ColonelKernel> paulproteus no, again this is system-wide. I dont even have X started right now
[02:38] <paulproteus> ColonelKernel: I see.
[02:38] <paulproteus> So how do you test DNS, then?
[02:39] <mcphail> mjr: thanks. I'll give it a try.
[02:39] <ColonelKernel> apt-get takes a long time to connect to things, bitchx takes a long time to resolve, elinks takes a long time to resolv
[02:39] <ColonelKernel> its the first connection to everything, the "looking up host" part takes a long time
[02:39] <scott> are there any console spreadsheets?
[02:40] <mjr> mcphail, also, there's a more fully featured thing called cinelerra, but I don't think it's packaged for ubuntu
[02:40] <mcphail> ok
[02:40] <IIIEars> ColonelKernel - wondering if pinging you DNS to see the round trip time server would eliminate a few possibilities
[02:41] <ColonelKernel> theres a livecd distro that has cinelerra on it, dynebolic
[02:41] <ColonelKernel> IIIEars its not the dns server - this doesnt happen in any distro but ubuntu
[02:41] <paulproteus> ColonelKernel: Hoary or Breezy?  What kernel?
[02:41] <rob_p> ColonelKernel:  If you're not familliar with dig, it's a simple command line utility for resolving domain names... Might come in handy for testing your DNS issues.
[02:42] <IIIEars> ColonelKernel - dunno - couldn't it just be an overworked dns server?
[02:42] <ColonelKernel> Hoary with 2.6.10-5-686-smp
[02:42] <ColonelKernel> IIIEars again, it isnt an overworked dns server, this is not happening with other distros or with windoze.
[02:42] <rob_p> ColonelKernel:  even tells you how long it took to resolve...
[02:43] <ColonelKernel> i dont doubt that its taking a while to resolve...
[02:43] <IIIEars> ColonelKernel - eliminared at least one possibility.
[02:44] <ColonelKernel> ok ill bbiab im gonna start x
[02:47] <mekgp> any joystick guru's in here???  :D
[02:49] <ColonelKernel> yes, still having system-wide dns resolution lag problems
[02:49] <hybrid_goth> socomm: how you make an infinite for loop in C++
[02:50] <socomm> hybrid_goth: Who can't?
[02:50] <hybrid_goth> you cant
[02:50] <ColonelKernel> took almost 10 seconds to lfor "looking up irc.freenode.net"
[02:50] <mekgp> thought Infinite was made of metal??  ROFL
[02:50] <hybrid_goth> socomm stole the coockie from the cookie jar
[02:50] <hybrid_goth> :-P
[02:51] <socomm> Mobius strip == infinite loop
[02:51] <mekgp> so, no takers on the joystick quandry?? :D
[02:51] <Amaranth> Mobius strip == not possible in real life
[02:51] <paulproteus> mekgp: What's your problem?
[02:51] <paulproteus> Amaranth: Uh, you twist a piece of paper....
[02:51] <mekgp> joystick...
[02:51] <Amaranth> paulproteus: uh, no
[02:51] <paulproteus> mekgp: If you're less vague, someone can help.
[02:51] <Amaranth> paulproteus: you can't twist it the way it's drawn
[02:52] <paulproteus> Amaranth: Hmm?  That's not true....
[02:52] <paulproteus> You just twist it once, then tape it.
[02:52] <ColonelKernel> you give it one twist and tape it
[02:52] <ColonelKernel> lol
[02:52] <paulproteus> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobius_strip
[02:52] <paulproteus> There's a picture on the Wikipedia article.
[02:52] <socomm> Amaranth: They use mobius strips in factories to get the best use out of those watchamacalits.
[02:52] <Amaranth> hmm
[02:52] <Amaranth> what was it then?
[02:53] <benplaut> google now officially ROCKS
[02:53] <hybrid_goth> why
[02:53] <Amaranth> some ring like that that could only be made on paper
[02:53] <IIIEars> mekgp - seem to remember a package on sourceforge - it's included in synaptic "joypad"
[02:53] <benplaut> www.google.com/ig now supports adding your own RSS feeds!
[02:53] <hybrid_goth> sweet
[02:53] <ColonelKernel> if i touch the /etc/resolv.conf file my dns problem goes away
[02:53] <paulproteus> Amaranth: You should check out the article.
[02:53] <ColonelKernel> ie sudo touch /etc/resolv.conf
[02:53] <mekgp> IIIEars: ill look that one up!
[02:53] <paulproteus> ColonelKernel: Wow.
[02:54] <ColonelKernel> Paradoxx, what is going on w this?
[02:54] <Amaranth> paulproteus: what article?
[02:54] <paulproteus> The Wikipedia article.
[02:54] <citrus_> can i set a hot key to switch desktops or is there one for gnome allready?
[02:54] <ColonelKernel> im not the only one with this problem
[02:54] <Amaranth> oh, is firefox fixed for everyone now?
[02:54] <Amaranth> paulproteus: I just read it. ;)
[02:54] <paulproteus> Ctrl-Alt-Right, citrus_
[02:54] <paulproteus> Or Ctrl-Alt-Left.
[02:54] <socomm> Amaranth: New firefox update?
[02:54] <paulproteus> Depending which way you want to go.
[02:54] <Amaranth> socomm: yeah
[02:54] <socomm> Amaranth: Thanks for the heads up.
[02:55] <citrus_> thanks one more  is there a hotkey to show desktop?
[02:55] <citrus_> like windows+d
[02:55] <socomm> citrus_: Make your own hotkeys.
[02:55] <paulproteus> citrus_: That I don't know.  (it'd be nice to know, so if you hear it, tell me too)
[02:55] <paulproteus> flugh_: Hey, Baltimore! :)
[02:56] <snickkers> how can I find out if a particular package/prerequisite is installed on my system? namely, "the MySQL database software"
[02:56] <ubuntudave> Can anyone suggest help as to why using ATI drivers causes my system to freeze when, and only when, i open *any* webbrowser and access a webpage?
[02:57] <uber_newber> can sum1 help me install my lynksis wireless b usb network adapter?
[02:57] <uber_newber> iv been trying for a very long time now and havent had any luck
[02:57] <citrus_> kde does it
[02:57] <citrus_> whats wrong with gnome lol
[02:58] <paulproteus> ubuntudave: That sounds bad.  Have you tested your RAM?  Bad RAM often leads to strange problems.
[02:58] <uber_newber> citrus_> are u talking to me
[02:58] <phixion> anyone fancy guiding me through jre 1.5 installation? :o
[02:58] <paulproteus> ubuntudave: Try installing the memtest86+ package, and rebooting, and choosing Memtest86 from the Grub menu.
[02:58] <socomm> !restricted
[02:58] <ubotu> [restricted]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[02:58] <uber_newber> can sum1 help me install my lynksis wireless b usb network adapter?
[02:58] <ColonelKernel> what is the system init script in debian?
[02:58] <uber_newber> iv been trying for a very long time now and havent had any luck
[02:58] <LinuxMoron> how can i get totem to play audio and video files?
[02:58] <socomm> phixion: Follow the link above.
[02:59] <IIIEars>  uber_newber - dmesg can give you some more info.  i am very new also at least you will have "google ammo"
[02:59] <snickkers> paul: iirc, memtest is already in the grub menu for 5.04 install
[02:59] <ubuntudave> paulproteus, I will try that now, thanks
[02:59] <amd3>  i can't hear anything in vlc, but i can hear sounds made by the os (ubuntu 5.04)
[02:59] <uber_newber> IIIEars: ya i guess, but google almost gives u too much info
[02:59] <phixion> thanks socomm
[02:59] <IIIEars> uber_newber - i noticed that too. - grin
[03:00] <uber_newber> ne1 in here wanna tell me at least what i need to install my lynksis wireless b usb network adapter
[03:00] <paulproteus> amd3: VLC might need to go through esd.
[03:00] <LinuxMoron> how can i get totem to play audio and video files?
[03:00] <uber_newber> IIIEars: ya
[03:00] <paulproteus> LinuxMoron: Try to use totem-xine as per the ubuntuguide.org documentation.
[03:00] <LinuxMoron> um ok
[03:00] <LinuxMoron> can xmms play video?
[03:00] <psychonate> with plugins, yes
[03:00] <hybrid_goth> yea
[03:01] <hybrid_goth> with xmmplayer
[03:01] <socomm> LinuxMoron: Not initially, you'll need to install thirdparty plugins.
[03:01] <LinuxMoron> xmmplayer i suppose socomm
[03:01] <ColonelKernel> yeah my dns lag comes back every few minutes and will disappear if I run sudo touch /etc/resolv.conf
[03:01] <socomm> LinuxMoron: Yea, granted that you've installed mplayer as well.
[03:01] <uber_newber> can sum1 help me install my lynksis wireless b usb network adapter?
[03:01] <uber_newber> iv been trying for a very long time now and havent had any luck
[03:01] <psychonate> Can anyone recommend any good servers/channels for general chat?
[03:01] <LinuxMoron> is there any other way, socomm
[03:02] <socomm> LinuxMoron: Yes, but I can't tell you off the top of my head.
[03:02] <phixion> socomm: I am following that guide, when I enter 'sudo apt-get install java-package fakeroot' it says it can't find the package.
[03:02] <IIIEars> uber_newber - looks like we have a few extra mins. - you could post the output to ubuntu.pastebin.com you could add a link to that extra info.
[03:02] <socomm> phixion: Use synaptic, and enable the restricted repos.
[03:02] <LinuxMoron> could you find out for me, socomm? ill pay you a bazillion dollars
[03:03] <paulproteus> LinuxMoron: Hmm, you don't want to install mplayer?
[03:03] <socomm> LinuxMoron: Well there is a way but an old method that utilzes avifile, which would only allow you to play avi files.
[03:03] <LinuxMoron> oh ok but the other way is to just use totem-xine?
[03:03] <snickkers> I'm trying to install MythTV... should I download precompiled debian sources, or compiile myself using sources (keeping in mind I'm a noob)?
[03:03] <phixion> socomm: i enabled all the repos, cant find java-package in synaptic either.
[03:03] <LinuxMoron> i want ONE media player, not 2 or three
[03:03] <socomm> LinuxMoron: I've also seen other plugins that would allow you to mpeg files, but that's really too much trouble I'd just install mplayer and be done with it.
[03:04] <IIIEars> psychonate - check out one of th two really good irc search engines - i really like ircspy
[03:04] <psychonate> The default mplayer build in Ubuntu angers me a lot.
[03:04] <poningru> I had a questiong
[03:04] <LinuxMoron> mplayer quit on me:  said it had a font error...waddo i do from there?
[03:04] <uber_newber> can sum1 help me install my lynksis wireless b usb network adapter?
[03:04] <uber_newber> iv been trying for a very long time now and havent had any luck
[03:04] <poningru> is it possible to remove the cd thing from the sources.list?
[03:04] <paulproteus> uber_newber: What model?
[03:04] <phixion> linuxmoron have you tried vlc for video?
[03:04] <socomm> LinuxMoron: Well mplayer can play just about any media file you throw at it, unfortunately it does not have a great interface.
[03:04] <paulproteus> poningru: Hi. :)
[03:04] <poningru> hey dude
[03:04] <s0cks> Have you ever shown up to work, and someone tells you that it looks like you've got a case of the mondays?
[03:04] <uber_newber> WUSB11 ver2.8
[03:04] <psychonate> I love mplayer, but the default build included crashes when it encounters AC3 audio.
[03:05] <phixion> socomm: i enabled all the repos, cant find java-package in synaptic either.
[03:05] <LinuxMoron> the font error realy screwed me up...waddo i do?
[03:05] <socomm> phixion: Have you ran `apt-get update' after you enabled the repos?
[03:05] <hybrid_goth> psychonate: i compiled mine
[03:05] <phixion> socomm, yeah :)
[03:05] <snickkers> I'm trying to install MythTV... should I download precompiled debian sources, or compiile myself using sources (keeping in mind I'm a noob)?
[03:05] <uber_newber> paulproteus i alson have tow drivers becuz i was told i need them to install it
[03:05] <psychonate> LinuxMoron, I had to set up fonts for mplayer for subs. Maybe you just need to do that. In that case, I can maybe help.
[03:05] <uber_newber> and i have the setup wizard disk that came with it
[03:05] <HrdwrBoB> apt-get install mplayer-fonts
[03:05] <paulproteus> uber_newber: Do you which drivers it uses?
[03:05] <psychonate> hybrid_goth, I would prefer to have it handled by the package management system though, since mplayer is somewhat larg.e
[03:06] <paulproteus> Which Linux drivers, I mean; the Windows disc won't help you.
[03:06] <socomm> phixion: Well, I don't know.
[03:06] <phixion> socomm, do you have default repos set up? if so does 'sudo apt-get install java-package' work for you?
[03:06] <Razor-X> hmmm... what are the dlls that w32codecs uses?
[03:06] <socomm> phixion: Yes it worked for me.
[03:06] <LinuxMoron> psychonate:  New_Face failed.  Maybe the font path is wrong.  How can I fix this error from within mplayer?
[03:06] <phixion> mm ok thx
[03:06] <Chadza> How do I keep x from running at startup?
[03:06] <uber_newber> paulproteus  lets just pm
[03:06] <Razor-X> because, if I ever need w32codecs, I want to use my own system DLLs
[03:07] <psychonate> LinuxMoron, http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/subosd.html#mpsub-install
[03:07] <Razor-X> !tell ColonelKernel about resolution
[03:07] <psychonate> LinuxMoron, look at the fourth dot
[03:07] <ColonelKernel> slow dns makes EVERYTHING so slow
[03:07] <psychonate> s/dot/bullet
[03:07] <LinuxMoron> thanks
[03:07] <psychonate> LinuxMoron, basically, you need to download a font and make a link, so that mplayer will use the font.
[03:07] <rob_p> ColonelKernel:  How much DNS lag are you talking?
[03:07] <ColonelKernel> Razor-X, thanks but I dont need to fix my video resolution
[03:08] <Razor-X> ColonelKernel: your NIC resolution?
[03:08] <ColonelKernel> rob_p, sometimes up to 10 seconds
[03:08] <norhted> hello everyone, is there anybody who knows to add a new keyboard(that is not in the ubuntu`s default list)?
[03:08] <Razor-X> your New Year's resolution? ;)
[03:08] <psychonate> LinuxMoron, PM me again if you need more help setting the font up.
[03:08] <paulproteus> norhted: New keyboard?  Should work plug-n-play.
[03:09] <rob_p> ColonelKernel:  Are you running a caching nameserver or are you using only your ISP's DNS servers?
[03:09] <norhted> paulproteus: i am using 107 -key generic turkish q
[03:09] <D1> wow, beagle is awesome.
[03:09] <ColonelKernel> rob_p, I am using my isp's dns servers
[03:09] <Razor-X> paulproteus: not always
[03:09] <norhted> paulproteus: but default contains turkish-alt-q
[03:09] <Razor-X> but, most of the time, you can plug one in and type in ``hotplug''
[03:10] <sorush20> guys I keep getting this error when I try to install firefox can anyone help.. E: /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_1.0.4-1ubuntu3~5.04ubp5_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package mozilla-firefox
[03:10] <norhted> paulproteus: and it is not working as normal q type
[03:10] <Razor-X> norhted: you mean, you have Turkish specific keys, but your keyboard layout is using a Turkish specific layout, that is not working with the keyboard?
[03:10] <rob_p> ColonelKernel:  Are you running any sort of packet filtering that might interfere with UDP packets?
[03:10] <snickkers> I'm trying to install MythTV... should I download precompiled debian sources, or compiile myself using sources (keeping in mind I'm a noob)?
[03:10] <ColonelKernel> rob_p, no
[03:10] <mcphail> ColonelKernel: you said the problem was improved by touching resolv.conf?
[03:10] <norhted> Razor-X: exactly
[03:10] <ColonelKernel> mcphail, yes
[03:11] <mcphail> ColonelKernel: cron job?
[03:11] <snickkers> asked differently - do debain precompiled packages work in ubuntu?
[03:11] <othernoob> snickkers: compile, so you'll learn ;)
[03:11] <rob_p> ColonelKernel:  Have you tried swapping the DNS servers listed in your /etc/resolv.conf file?
[03:11] <lexhider> Can I get someone to confirm a firefox hoary bug before I report it?
[03:11] <norhted> Razor-X: i tried turkish-f and it is working like turkish-f
[03:11] <othernoob> snickkers: not neccessarily
[03:11] <ColonelKernel> rob_p, no need, all I have to do is touch the file and dns works fine again
[03:11] <norhted> Razor-X: however turkish-q is not working properly
[03:11] <snickkers> othernoob: d'oh :P  thanks for the info
[03:11] <ColonelKernel> theres something seriously wrong w dns and I dont know what it is
[03:11] <paulproteus> norhted: I see.  I think you should file a bug against Ubuntu, then; it should have that in the list.
[03:12] <Razor-X> norhted: can I see a picture of the differences?
[03:12] <rob_p> ColonelKernel:  Is that behavior repeatable?
[03:12] <lexhider> open a few tabs, select any tab but the 1st one, Preferences->HomePage->Current, it selects the url of the 1st tab not the current tab.
[03:12] <hybrid_goth> snickkers: knoppmyth
[03:12] <tritium> snickkers, what's wrong with using the ubuntu mythtv packags?
[03:12] <Razor-X> paulproteus: it could be a multitude of things, the WM is not working, xkeyboard is not working, it's broken, etc.
[03:12] <norhted> Razor-X: what do you want to see exactly?
[03:12] <hybrid_goth> snickkers: systm.org
[03:12] <snickkers> hybrid: knopmyth isnt so great
[03:13] <Razor-X> norhted: just the keyboard's keys (like on most normal English ones the top row starts with ``QWERTY'')
[03:13] <ColonelKernel> rob_p, it does it every single time I boot up. If I wait 5-10 minutes , the dns resolution will go back to being crappy
[03:13] <drew> does firestarter automatically start working after installation or does it not work with kde?
[03:13] <Sheng> hello
[03:13] <_otep> 'lo, anyone have any experience using gparted
[03:13] <Sheng> does anyone know how to configure GRUB to move XP to the top of the default
[03:13] <snickkers> hybrid_goth: will mess around with knopmyth more if it doesnt go well with ubuntu
[03:13] <mcphail> ColonelKernel: whatever the cause is, setting up a cron job to clear resolv.conf every couple of minutes should sort out the symptoms
[03:13] <hybrid_goth> _otep: i do
[03:13] <rob_p> ColonelKernel:  And when you touch the file it temporarily fixes it - every time?
[03:13] <hybrid_goth> snickkers: ah
[03:13] <ColonelKernel> drew, you have to run it and go through the wizard at least once
[03:13] <ColonelKernel> rob_p, that is correct, sir
[03:13] <hybrid_goth> i figured it would be a semi-embedded system
[03:14] <tritium> snickkers, I installed the ubuntu mythtv packages, and had no problems
[03:14] <snickkers> tritium: didnt realise there were mythtv unbuntu packages... will have to look around, thanks for the pointer
[03:14] <drew> ColonelKernel, where do I find it?  Like, where would it have been installed to on my kde panel?
[03:14] <rendi> hai guy's what the best image viewer like acdess
[03:14] <norhted> qwertyuiop[]
[03:14] <tritium> !info mythtv
[03:14] <ubotu> mythtv: (A personal video recorder application (client and server)), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.17-3 (hoary), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[03:14] <HrdwrBoB> rendi: gthumb
[03:14] <norhted> Razor-X:qwertyuiop[]
[03:14] <rendi> ok thanks
[03:14] <rob_p> ColonelKernel:  And you've tried alternate DNS servers just to be sure?
[03:14] <norhted>  Razor-X:asdfghjkl;'\
[03:14] <ColonelKernel> drew type in sudo firestarter - it might be under applications/system tools, if not it will be the next time you start X
[03:14] <norhted>  Razor-X:zxcvbnm,./
[03:14] <drew> ok
[03:15] <tritium> snickkers, they're all in multiverse.  There are several packages.
[03:15] <snickkers> tritium, do I just use the Synaptic Package Manager to install it?
[03:15] <norhted>  Razor-X:they are first,second, and the third row correspondingly
[03:15] <tritium> snickkers, yeah, you can.
[03:15] <ColonelKernel> rob_p, any time the /etc/resolv.conf file is freshened up somehow, regardless of its settings, dns gets fixed, at least for 5 minutes or so.
[03:15] <snickkers> tritium, sounds like there's a 'but...' (is there some better way to install it?)
[03:15] <Chadza> Can anyone tell me how to prevent X from running at startup?
[03:15] <norhted> but there should be `` after `l` instead of `;`
[03:16] <norhted> Razor-X:but there should be `` after `l` instead of `;`
[03:16] <tritium> snickkers, synaptic is just fine.  :)
[03:16] <Sheng> eNJOY!!!!
[03:16] <Sheng> I installed Ubunto, and I have AC 97 sound, but it never played.
[03:16] <Sheng> What is up?
[03:16] <Sheng> Also, it could never recognize discs in my CD drive
[03:16] <snickkers> tritium, cool, thx. Esxcept, I can't find mythtv in the list (I'm look in ALL)
[03:17] <drew> ColonelKernel, after I have gone through the wizard, will it always be on?  because my tray icon seems to have disappeared when I closed the window
[03:17] <tritium> snickkers, you need to make sure you have multiverse enabled
[03:17] <norhted> Razor-X: actually from system-preferences-keyboard, you can only select turkish alt-q and turkish f
[03:17] <rob_p> ColonelKernel:  Has it acted this way since you first installed your system.  If not, what changes/updates did you do just before you started noticing the problems?
[03:17] <rhodry> quit
[03:17] <ColonelKernel> drew, yes, it is a system service now
[03:17] <ColonelKernel> rob_p, yes this is a fresh install
[03:17] <lexhider> Chadza, uninstall gdm is one way.
[03:17] <oatis> whats a good wifi pcmcia card thats compatable with kubuntu?
[03:17] <drew> ColonelKernel, okay, and what about nessus?
[03:17] <ColonelKernel> I havent run any updates on it
[03:17] <hybrid_goth> whats the sudo pass in the livecd
[03:17] <ColonelKernel> drew, I dont know what nessus is
[03:17] <hybrid_goth> 4.10 cd
[03:18] <norhted> Razor-X: when i press `Alt-gr` from my keyboard it is working like turkish-q
[03:18] <drew> ColonelKernel, a vulnerability scanner
[03:18] <rob_p> ColonelKernel:  And it's been that way since the first boot-up of your newly installed system?
[03:18] <ColonelKernel> rob^, yes
[03:18] <rob^> ?
[03:18] <hybrid_goth> anyone know the password to use when sudo'ing with the 4.10 livecd
[03:18] <ColonelKernel> sorry rob_p
[03:18] <ColonelKernel> yes
[03:18] <tritium> snickkers, if you don't have it enabled, see here; http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[03:18] <ColonelKernel> hybrid_goth, I think you have to set it
[03:18] <hybrid_goth> o_0
[03:18] <hybrid_goth> ok
[03:19] <hybrid_goth> ty
[03:19] <ColonelKernel> hybrid_goth, sudo passwd root
[03:19] <rob_p> ColonelKernel:  Hrm... thinking!  This one is a bit of a brain-teaser!
[03:19] <Chadza> Thanks, but is there a way to just prevent it from running?  I do want to keep it for certain occasions, but not always running.
[03:19] <snickkers> hehe thanks tritium, was only another 5 secs away from asking that question :P
[03:20] <tritium> snickkers, no problem :)
[03:20] <ColonelKernel> this is my ONLY problem with ubuntu, I love this distro otherwise and i'd REALLY hate to leave it
[03:20] <norhted> Razor-X:do you think it is a bug?
[03:20] <ColonelKernel> i cant wait 10 seconds every time I need to connect to something though
[03:20] <mcphail> ColonelKernel: is a dhcp server messing up the settings?
[03:21] <oatis> whats a good, compatable wifi pcmcia card for ubuntu?
[03:21] <lexhider> Chadza, I remember something about editing /etc/inittab but I can't remember exactly. You can uninstall gdm and when you want to run X just run "startx" frome the console.
[03:21] <ColonelKernel> mcphail, no, i set static ip via dhcp for this machine, so it gets the same settings regardless, and it only has problems in ubuntu
[03:22] <tritium> Chadza, this is the proper debian way: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-no-x-start
[03:22] <tritium> same thing would apply for ubuntu
[03:22] <darinlh> ColonelKernel, cat /etc/resolv.conf and see if it putting your router/switch info in there if it is the admin your router/swith dhcp info to put only real dns servers in
[03:22] <snickkers> what's the difference between the packages in multivers, and those in universe?
[03:22] <ColonelKernel> darinlh, its only the isp's dns server
[03:22] <Chadza> Thank you both.
[03:23] <Chadza> And for my second question, how do I get mp3blaster to output to eSound?
[03:23] <tritium> snickkers, here's the best explanation: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view
[03:23] <IIIEars> snickkers - hm - i think it is closed source apps and $ apps
[03:23] <darinlh> ColonelKernel, is dns slow only in firefox or in all services? ie ping traceroute etc..
[03:23] <ColonelKernel> darinlh, its system-wide - the first time I connect to anything is super slow looking it up
[03:24] <IIIEars> darinlh - "the first time" - some type of caching?
[03:25] <rob_p> ColonelKernel:  Do you have any directives in your /etc/resolv.conf other than, "search" or "nameserver?"
[03:25] <nessmuk> can someone answer a few questions about Beatrix?
[03:25] <uber_newber> sum1 say sumthin
[03:25] <uber_newber> im tryin to test sumthin
[03:26] <ColonelKernel> rob_p, just nameserver, I commented out all the ipv6 stuff
[03:26] <ColonelKernel> theres no 'search'
[03:26] <useruser> ColonelKernel: do you have more than one server listed?
[03:26] <ColonelKernel> yes, there are 2 dns servers.
[03:26] <teferi> if anyone's been eagerly following evo-mail-notify development, i'm going to be pushing out another release tonight, probably
[03:27] <teferi> just for the record
[03:27] <nessmuk> in ubuntu, you can find apps by using locate, but I can't find the apps folder in Beatrix. Anyone help? And if locate doesn't work in terminal, how do you find stuff?
[03:27] <darinlh> ColonelKernel, IIIEars mine used to do that when my dhcp on router gave itself as a dns server, disabled it and now it works fine
[03:27] <ColonelKernel> as I stated before, it doesnt matter WHAT dns server is in there, dns works fine with mine, or with qwests,
[03:27] <useruser> ColonelKernel: maybe one of them is responding slowly/down? you could try with just one of them, then try with the other one alone
[03:27] <ColonelKernel> darinlh, my router is not using itself as a dns server
[03:28] <ColonelKernel> useruser, if I touch the /etc/resolv.conf dns function goes back to normal
[03:28] <IIIEars> darinlh - sounds like it might just worth a look. - nice
[03:28] <darinlh> ColonelKernel, does your /etc/resolv.conf have a search what.ever as first line then a couple of dns servers?
[03:28] <useruser> ColonelKernel: how strange
[03:28] <rob_p> ColonelKernel:  That's interesting 'cause mine doesn't seem to have any IP6 stuff in it at all!
[03:28] <ColonelKernel> darinlh, no, just nameservers
[03:28] <tritium> ColonelKernel, have you tried installing resolvconf ?
[03:29] <travisbickle> can someone help me mount my windows partitions i had to reinstall and i forgot how
[03:29] <ColonelKernel> rob_p, pardon my idiocy that was /etc/hosts
[03:29] <ColonelKernel> tritium, no, what is resolvconf?
[03:29] <velocity760> when you put linux on your computer do you need any special video drivers or sound drivers for it
[03:29] <useruser> ColonelKernel: hang on, do you mean touch as in /usr/bin/touch, or touch as in "edit in any way"?
[03:29] <rob_p> ColonelKernel:  Oh... no prob!  :-)
[03:29] <tritium> ColonelKernel, a nameserver information manager
[03:30] <flugh_> paulproteus, sorry, was AFk. howdy :)
[03:30] <Hikaru79> velocity760, absolutely not.
[03:30] <ColonelKernel> useruser, as in sudo touch /etc/resolv.conf
[03:30] <velocity760> you dont
[03:30] <velocity760> thats cool
[03:30] <useruser> ColonelKernel: ok :S
[03:30] <tritium> ColonelKernel, you might give it a try...
[03:30] <Hikaru79> velocity760, Linux is compatible with most hardware on the market these days.
[03:30] <velocity760> couse im going to put ubuntu on my computer tonight
[03:30] <useruser> ColonelKernel: do you have anything running that looks like it may be dhcp-related?
[03:30] <Hikaru79> velocity760, welcome aboard =)
[03:30] <darinlh> travisbickle, edit your fstab to have something like /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ntfs noauto,users,exec,ro,umask=000 0 0
[03:30] <velocity760> thank you
[03:31] <mcphail> ColonelKernel: or use the nasty workaround with crontab...
[03:31] <fortysixand2> if you want 3d acceleration, you might have to work
[03:31] <snickkers> tritium: Followed instructions on that website, and now i have a bunch of (Universe) packages, but I couldnt find anything for Multiverse
[03:31] <fortysixand2> especially with the crappy ATI drivers
[03:31] <velocity760> i just got the Cedega so i can run my games on it
[03:31] <useruser> ColonelKernel: you could always use strace if you run out of ideas
[03:31] <ColonelKernel> useruser, im not understanding, the box is a dhcp client but it works fine with other distros and even windoze
[03:31] <velocity760> and i can start learning how to program with linux
[03:32] <tritium> snickkers, we need to add "multiverse" then too
[03:32] <useruser> ColonelKernel: yes, it's undoubtedly misconfigured somewhere
[03:32] <darinlh> hey velocity760 do you run guild wars with cedega?
[03:32] <tritium> ColonelKernel, apt-cache show resolvconf for more info on it.
[03:32] <useruser> ColonelKernel: but i think there should not be dhcp-client processes running all the time - if there are, that could be problematic
[03:32] <velocity760> yep
[03:32] <velocity760> im going to
[03:32] <ColonelKernel> useruser, I dont know if they are or not
[03:33] <ColonelKernel> tritium, thanks
[03:33] <snickkers> tritium: There wasn't a multiverse checkbox option in the repositry list (even when I changed the setting to display hidden repositories)
[03:33] <useruser> ColonelKernel: ps auxg|grep -i dh
[03:33] <useruser> maybe :P
[03:33] <zaphands> Hi. Firefox doens't work after update. What should I do?
[03:33] <tritium> snickers, if you're comfortable editing the /etc/apt/sources.list file, you can add them yourself.
[03:33] <ColonelKernel> useruser, root      6625  0.0  0.0   2140   976 ?        S<s  17:46   0:00 dhclient3 -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid -lf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.leases eth0
[03:34] <snickkers> tritium, I'll check it out
[03:34] <darinlh> velocity760, I run it fine but I am unable to do mission's, nvidia's driver seems to be doing something and looking for someone that is running it with no problem?
[03:34] <Marupa> Has someone ever installed ubuntu through a gentoo livecd?
[03:35] <Chadza`FunTimes> Does anyone know how to set mp3blaster to output to eSound?
[03:35] <darinlh> ColonelKernel, that is strange dhclient should not be running
[03:35] <useruser> ColonelKernel: actually dhclient is running on my machine too. maybe i have misunderstood something
[03:36] <useruser> ColonelKernel: anyway i would certainly try killing it and see if that improves things
[03:36] <rob_p> ColonelKernel:  I seem to have an instance running too!
[03:36] <ColonelKernel> did I find a bug?
[03:36] <ColonelKernel> i just killed it, ill see how things work
[03:37] <Strife> so what's the deal with firefox not working?
[03:37] <mcphail> Why shouldn't there be a dhcp client running?
[03:37] <othernoob> has anyone ever tried to get a firmware update from lite-on?
[03:37] <Strife> oh NOW firefox works
[03:37] <SysFail> Can't locate XML/DOM.pm in @INC   <[03:38] <SysFail> something to do with perl
[03:38] <useruser> SysFail: you need to install some perl package or other
[03:38] <paulproteus> SysFail: What program are you trying to run?
[03:38] <SysFail> yeah..cant figure out which ones
[03:38] <Marupa> Anyonen ever tried to install that way?
[03:38] <paulproteus> SysFail: What program are you trying to run?
[03:38] <SysFail> its a perl script for doing nzb files
[03:38] <SysFail> thats what Im trying to run
[03:39] <rob_p> mcphail:  I think it should be if you are configured to acquire your IP from a DHCP server.
[03:39] <paulproteus> SysFail: If you use Synaptic, search for perl xml dom
[03:39] <useruser> SysFail: try libxml-dom-perl
[03:39] <SysFail> okie...looking
[03:39] <zaphands> is there a way to go back with the updates?
[03:40] <mcphail> Yes, but surely it shouldn't do anything unless dhcp is selected in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[03:41] <rob_p> that would stand to reason...
[03:42] <mcphail> so there should be no problem with it running in the background _in_case_ you connect a device to be configured by dhcp?
[03:42] <cjserio> hey all....I used to be able to do "make target-name.abc" but now after switching from FC3 to ubuntu, when i do that, it says that there's no rule for the target...I'm using the same Makefile...am i missing a library or something?
[03:43] <tritium> cjserio, have you installed "build-essential"?
[03:43] <cjserio> tritium yes i did
[03:43] <rob_p> it may not even be started unless dhcp is specified in your /etc/network/interfaces for one of your active interfaces...  I could be wrong however.
[03:43] <ColonelKernel> I installed resolvconf and looking up things is still unbelievably slow.
[03:43] <SysFail> thanks guys :) that did it
[03:43] <cjserio> tritium does anything need to be restarted?
[03:43] <tritium> ColonelKernel, okay, sorry.  It was worth a try.
[03:43] <tritium> cjserio, no.
[03:43] <Chadza`FunTimes> how do I get mp3blaster to output to eSound?
[03:44] <useruser> ColonelKernel: try running strace host www.google.com and see if you can figure out what's taking the time
[03:44] <Strife> just out of curiosity, does anyone here use epiphany over firefox?
[03:44] <cjserio> I just dont understand enough about make to know what i'm missing
[03:45] <BlazingSteakSauc> how you install .debs?
[03:45] <ColonelKernel> I dont know what any of this stuff means in strace
[03:45] <jake1> ok... this is wierd
[03:45] <useruser> ColonelKernel: well does it just sit there for a while in the middle of it?
[03:45] <Strife> BlazingSteakSauc: dpkg -i whatever.deb
[03:45] <mcphail> rob_p: it starts on my machine even if I have all interfaces deselected. Has never been a problem, but then I use it to assign IPs. May be more of a prob with static addresses.
[03:45] <ColonelKernel> useruser, yes
[03:45] <useruser> ColonelKernel: and what does it say just before it stops?
[03:45] <BlazingSteakSauc> stuf stick it in there?
[03:45] <useruser> in the middle, i mean
[03:46] <cjserio> Can anyone think of anything else i might need? I have gcc, g++, make, build-essentials...
[03:46] <rob_p> mcphail: I see.
[03:46] <ColonelKernel> useruser, t_sigaction(SIGHUP, {0xb7dd2ad0, ~[RTMIN] , 0}, NULL, 8) = 0
[03:46] <ColonelKernel> rt_sigsuspend([]
[03:46] <jake1> i was able to download and install Kubuntu... and i selected it as my default window manager, but unfortunately all i get is the Kubuntu login panel but not the KDE interface
[03:46] <jake1> how do i get the KDE interface
[03:46] <tritium> jake1, you might ask in #kubuntu
[03:46] <jake1> do i need to do a "apt -get kde"
[03:47] <_otep> does the ubuntu live cd have "parted"
[03:47] <jake1> tritium but i'm using Ubuntu
[03:47] <jake1> ?
[03:47] <tritium> BlazingSteakSauc, you typically don't need to download and install .debs manually.  Usually, you use apt-get
[03:47] <mcphail> ColonelKernel: what happens if you reverse the order of the dns servers in resolv.conf?
[03:47] <BlazingSteakSauc> i got the debs since i can't go online for them at the moment
[03:47] <ColonelKernel> mcphail, probably the same thing than if I leave them alone and touch them...
[03:48] <BlazingSteakSauc> do i unzip in that area or just drop em in there zipped
[03:48] <Amaranth> oops, wrong button
[03:48] <tritium> BlazingSteakSauc, drop them in where?
[03:48] <ColonelKernel> if I put ANY working dns servers in there, itll work fine for a while then get SLOW
[03:48] <useruser> ColonelKernel: hm, doesn't mean much to me either I'm afraid
[03:48] <BlazingSteakSauc> dpkg
[03:48] <velocity760> how do you install files from a tgz format
[03:48] <tritium> BlazingSteakSauc, "sudo dpkg -i <file.deb."
[03:49] <ColonelKernel> ok brb
[03:49] <BlazingSteakSauc> i got em on the desktop
[03:49] <BlazingSteakSauc> it was lookin in /var/dpkg
[03:49] <ryan_> High, im on my windows machine which i use to bridge the connection to my laptop
[03:49] <tritium> BlazingSteakSauc, okay, cd to ~/Desktop before using dpkg then, or specify the path in the command
[03:49] <ryan_> but for some reason its screwed atm, i think its to do with the dns
[03:49] <BlazingSteakSauc> no need to unzip then
[03:49] <ryan_> any chance someone could help?
[03:49] <tritium> BlazingSteakSauc, do these files end in .deb ?
[03:50] <IIIEars> velocity - it may have gpart
[03:50] <BlazingSteakSauc> yeah
[03:50] <tritium> no need to unzip .debs
[03:50] <cjserio> The exact error i get is "No Rule to make target..."
[03:50] <BlazingSteakSauc> k i hope gnome-ppp will let me get online after it is running
[03:50] <BlazingSteakSauc> i got use to suse auto detecting rpms
[03:51] <mcphail> cjserio: have you ./configured?
[03:52] <Dr_Melectaus> jesus christ, why is it like talking to a brick wall in here
[03:52] <cjserio> mcphail, there is no configure...this is my own source that i wrote
[03:52] <IIIEars> cjserio - "build-essential"?
[03:52] <cjserio> IIIEars: I installed it with Synaptic but it's still not working
[03:52] <tritium> Dr_Melectaus, please be polite
[03:52] <wulfy814> I'm trying to install asterisk and have compiled ztdummy
[03:52] <wulfy814> but when I modprobe ztdummy
[03:53] <wulfy814> Module ztdummy not found
[03:53] <ColonelKernel> dns is still so slow
[03:53] <BlazingSteakSauc> there a good place for some linux games?
[03:53] <Dr_Melectaus> tritium, i have been comeing in here asking the same question for about 3 days now
[03:53] <Dr_Melectaus> and no one replies
[03:53] <Chadza`FunTimes> how do I get mp3blaster to output to eSound?
[03:53] <mcphail> cjserio:  make target-name.abc is a little strange. What do you mean by that?
[03:53] <ColonelKernel> please anyone, please help me get dns fixed
[03:53] <tritium> Dr_Melectaus, maybe nobody knows the answer.  What is the question?
[03:53] <IIIEars> asterisk is cool!
[03:53] <psychonate> BlazingSteakSauc, free or commercial?
[03:53] <BlazingSteakSauc> free
[03:54] <IIIEars> new app to try.
[03:54] <bob2> ColonelKernel: does manually pointing at a known-good dns server work?
[03:54] <mcphail> ColonelKernel: is /etc/network/interfaces correct?
[03:54] <cjserio> mcphail: I'm trying to compile my shared lib...the target is called xsquawkbox.xpl so in my makefile it does "$(MAKE) xsquawkbox.xpl"
[03:54] <psychonate> BlazingSteakSauc, www.happypenguin.org
[03:54] <BlazingSteakSauc> k thnks
[03:54] <Dr_Melectaus> Well, my dvd drive isnt mounting data dvd discs. It will mount dvd movies, but the likes of games and such it doesnt even detect them
[03:54] <ColonelKernel> mcphail, yes i havent messed w it at all
[03:54] <BlazingSteakSauc> i hope i get the hang of debian soon
[03:54] <psychonate> BlazingSteakSauc, don't forget to see what games Ubuntu has available via the package manager
[03:55] <mcphail> ColonelKernel: check to see if dhcp appears in it
[03:55] <BlazingSteakSauc> i got them all that ubuntu had available on the cd
[03:55] <tritium> Dr_Melectaus, yeah, that's a pretty unique problem.  Perhaps nobody knows how to reply.
[03:55] <BlazingSteakSauc> i see runescape is on that site
[03:55] <ColonelKernel> yes mcphail it is correct.
[03:55] <psychonate> BlazingSteakSauc, I used to love playing Enemy Territory (from ID Software).
[03:56] <BlazingSteakSauc> the rating for runescape should be 1 star
[03:56] <bob2> ColonelKernel: yes or no?
[03:56] <psychonate> BlazingSteakSauc, vote then ;)
[03:56] <mcphail> ColonelKernel: remove the dhcp if you're using static ips
[03:56] <BlazingSteakSauc> the staff are ass holes
[03:56] <thuron> java help for a noob?
[03:57] <psychonate> BlazingSteakSauc, there are forums on there too.
[03:57] <BlazingSteakSauc> i see
[03:57] <psychonate> The site has news on both commercial and free games.
[03:57] <tritium> thuron, yes, the Java wiki page in the UserDocumentation URL listed in the wiki is a great page
[03:57] <BlazingSteakSauc> i still got alot to learn on this os to become good at it
[03:57] <IIIEars> asterisk + ztdummy - only accepts usb-uhci as a module?
[03:57] <Strife> anyone know about how to get xine integrated as a plugin to play movies in firefox?
[03:58] <tritium> Strife, you can use gxine's plugins
[03:58] <Strife> totem seems to automatically be the plugin for epiphany...
[03:58] <tritium> Strife, I symlink all the plugins in /usr/lib/gxine in my ~/.mozilla/plugins
[03:59] <Strife> ok
[03:59] <Strife> that's easy enough
[04:02] <Strife> hmm
[04:02] <Strife> well with just gxineplugin.so it opens a new window
[04:02] <Strife> that's really annoying
[04:03] <tritium> Strife, better than nothing ;)
[04:03] <Strife> meh
[04:03] <Strife> there's got to be better than that
[04:03] <Strife> because neither the mplayer plugin nor the vlc one tend to work
[04:03] <BlazingSteakSauc> is the linspire aol dialer compatible with ubuntu
[04:04] <tritium> Dr_Melectaus, try "sudo modprobe udf", and then try to mount a dvd
[04:04] <Dr_Melectaus> ok trit
[04:04] <ColonelKernel> connecting to things, so so slow
[04:04] <tritium> If that works, we'll add "udf" to your /etc/modules
[04:04] <ColonelKernel> so horrible
[04:05] <mcphail> did you change /etc/network/interfaces?
[04:05] <IIIEars> Faxes ColonelKernel a cold beer and an aspirin.
[04:05] <rob_p> ColonelKernel:  verify that your /etc/nsswitch.conf file contains an entry with, "host:  files dns" and if it doesn't, let us know.
[04:05] <bob2> ColonelKernel: does specifying a known good dns server work or not?
[04:05] <rob_p> ColonelKernel:  er... I mean, "hosts:  files dns"
[04:05] <YaKuLKuXkLaN> hi all
[04:06] <YaKuLKuXkLaN> i have a question..
[04:06] <ColonelKernel> bob2  -yes that works, for a while, then it dies again
[04:06] <ColonelKernel> bob2, my isps dns servers are working fine
[04:06] <IIIEars> ColonelKernel - bob2 is on your question. - a solution can't be too far away..
[04:06] <benplaut> how do i chnage the splash-screen? i remember there was a util for it, but i did a reinstall a few months ago and lost it
[04:06] <Dr_Melectaus> tritium, cheers but it didnt work
[04:06] <tritium> Dr_Melectaus, sorry
[04:06] <YaKuLKuXkLaN> if i have a debian woody 3.1 and i want update/change to ubuntu hoary, is too risky?
[04:06] <YaKuLKuXkLaN> is dangerous?
[04:06] <Dr_Melectaus> "probobly didnt mount because there is no media in the drive"
[04:06] <useruser> ColonelKernel: does the file /etc/resolv.conf actually change when it stops working?
[04:07] <YaKuLKuXkLaN> somebody have an answer?
[04:07] <YaKuLKuXkLaN> o0?
[04:07] <ColonelKernel> hosts:          files dns
[04:07] <bob2> YaKuLKuXkLaN: woody is not 3.1
[04:07] <ColonelKernel> useruser, no
[04:07] <useruser> ColonelKernel: ok.
[04:07] <ColonelKernel> rob_p, I have hosts:          files dns
[04:07] <YaKuLKuXkLaN> bob2: anyway, if i have a debian 3.1 and i wanna update/change to ubuntu hoary, is too risky?
[04:07] <rob_p> ColonelKernel:  Ok... just checking all possibilities that I can think of...
[04:08] <bob2> YaKuLKuXkLaN: yes
[04:08] <YaKuLKuXkLaN> o0?
[04:08] <YaKuLKuXkLaN> :x
[04:08] <useruser> ColonelKernel: you could try this to test the dns servers individually: for i in $(sed -n -e 's/^nameserver \(.*\)/\1/p'  /etc/resolv.conf); do echo $i; echo; host -v www.google.com $i; done
[04:08] <YaKuLKuXkLaN> thnks
[04:08] <YaKuLKuXkLaN> =)
[04:08] <IIIEars> YaKuL, - congrats most erm "interesting"? moniker yet today in this channel...
[04:08] <IFRFLYR> Hi, all - having ff woes. Where's that much touted 1.06 I heard about/
[04:09] <oatis> im thikning of setting up kubuntu on a laptop, what would be a good wifi pcmcia card that would be be compatable?
[04:09] <IFRFLYR> Firefox 1.0.6-1ubuntu1~5.04ubp1?
[04:09] <ColonelKernel> -su: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[04:09] <ColonelKernel> even gaim is slow
[04:09] <useruser> ColonelKernel: don't use sudo
[04:10] <IIIEars> IFRFLYR - ubuntu update manager will grab it and install it for you update your package info . (provided you didn't install a backported vers.)
[04:10] <mcphail> oatis: i'm using a belkin 54g badged broadcom card under ndiswrapper
[04:10] <IFRFLYR> IIIEars - I don't use the update mgr for a couple of reasons. Is there a deb package available?
[04:10] <ColonelKernel> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `do'
[04:10] <IFRFLYR> Right now I have 1.0.2
[04:11] <IIIEars> IFRFLYR - there must be one on the repo tree. - haven't checked
[04:11] <velocity760> once i put linux on there
[04:11] <useruser> ColonelKernel: well it works for me... are you copying and pasting or typing?
[04:11] <ColonelKernel> pasting
[04:11] <useruser> ColonelKernel: make sure that there's a semicolon between ) and do
[04:11] <IFRFLYR> Right. I just did apt-get update and searched for mozilla-firefox and found only 1.0.2...
[04:11] <IFRFLYR> ;(