[00:04] <linux_noob4> anyone use steam flatpak? seems troublesome when trying to browse local folders
[00:05] <landofcake> ah ... I think I've found the problem ... something utterly absurd had made it's way into my sources.list
[00:05] <landofcake> but that is real hard to find based on the updater failure
[00:06] <R13ose> Thanks all
[00:11] <qwebirc49809> hello jonta?
[00:13] <qwebirc49809> hello anyone?
[00:14] <qwebirc49809> i want someone which has some experience with dual-booting
[00:14] <compdoc> qwebirc49809, welcome to the land of ubuntu
[00:15] <linux_noob4> hello
[00:15] <linux_noob4>  Is it me you're looking for?
[00:15] <qwebirc49809> aye noob
[00:15] <compdoc> nope. ty tho
[00:15] <Mibix> oye
[00:16] <qwebirc49809> u remember me, i guess udek me
[00:16] <qwebirc49809> look
[00:16] <Mibix> qwebirc49809 i guess i dual boot
[00:16] <qwebirc49809> aye mibix
[00:16] <Mibix> havent booted back in to windows for more than 5 min though
[00:16] <qwebirc49809> lol
[00:16] <qwebirc49809> look i need some serious help
[00:16] <qwebirc49809> now look
[00:17]  * Mibix looks
[00:17]  * Dragoneye looks too
[00:17] <qwebirc49809> i want to install ubuntu, on a Windows 7 machine, 2 ntfs partitions, one for windows, and one for my personal files, i already freed some space for ubuntu, but what partitions i should create, and how, and how many?
[00:18] <qwebirc49809> windows is C: and my files are on D:
[00:18] <qwebirc49809> i will really, really apperciate it if you help me
[00:18] <Mibix> so you want a second partition on the same drive you boot windows to?
[00:19] <qwebirc49809> yes
[00:19] <qwebirc49809> dual-boot on the same HDD
[00:20] <qwebirc49809> (well i can't afford an ext hdd)
[00:20] <Mibix> so you need to shrink your windows partition and leave unallocated space then run the ubuntu install
[00:20] <qwebirc49809> i've got space, i have 60gigs, will be they enough for basic stuff?
[00:20] <qwebirc49809> or i guess i will make it 70
[00:21] <Mibix> 60 should be way more than enough for a base install
[00:21] <qwebirc49809> oh alright
[00:21] <qwebirc49809> so no shrinking
[00:22] <qwebirc49809> i opened gparted
[00:22] <qwebirc49809> what now?
[00:22] <Mibix> make sure its unallocated
[00:22] <Mibix> then just use the ubuntu install and select the partition and it should do everything else automatically
[00:22] <Dragoneye> qwebirc49809: If you dont mind reading a bit:  www.tecmint.com/install-ubuntu-16-04-alongside-with-windows-10-or-8-in-dual-boot/
[00:22] <Mibix> it doesnt sound like you need anything wildly complicated
[00:23] <qwebirc49809> yeah its unallocated
[00:23] <qwebirc49809> yes, non complicated stuff
[00:23] <Mibix> it will make a new grub config and you can select ubuntu or windows at boot
[00:23] <Mibix> it should defaunt to ubuntu
[00:23] <qwebirc49809> Dragoneye: i think that getting support from people directly is more guranteed to work, i guess
[00:23] <Mibix> after like 10 seconds?
[00:23] <Mibix> qwebirc49809 no
[00:24] <Mibix> documentation is always more accurate
[00:24] <qwebirc49809> how do i create partitions?
[00:24] <Dragoneye> qwebirc49809: mostly i get the RTFM and google first ;-)
[00:24] <qwebirc49809> soo, i should follow that guide
[00:24] <qwebirc49809> right?
[00:24] <Mibix> the installer media should do everything for you as long as you select the right install location
[00:25] <qwebirc49809> also, cant i get scrolling via the middle wheel click to work, the wheel isnt working propely
[00:25] <Mibix> that comes later
[00:25] <qwebirc49809> im going to buy a new mouse anyways
[00:25] <qwebirc49809> not now
[00:26] <Mibix> if it works in windows its usually just a matter of settings in linux
[00:26] <Mibix> my back and forward keys didnt used to work but now they do after some reading
[00:26] <Mibix> (on my mouse)
[00:27] <jeffree> anyone here experiencing the weird bug where clicking something causes the whole screen to be highlighted or for something far away to be clicked or for some link to he held by the pointer as if being dragged? I'm using gnome in ubuntu 18.04, I only know for sure that it happens in firefox.
[00:27] <Mibix> qwebirc49809 you can get almost anything to work with ubuntu it just takes some reading and patience ive learned
[00:27] <Toadisattva> I haven't really had any issues like that myself
[00:27] <Dragoneye> jeffree: Yes there is something not right.
[00:28] <Toadisattva> have you tried a different mouse?
[00:28] <Toadisattva> maybe sticky button or something?
[00:28] <qwebirc49809> no no, the middle wheel scrolling mechanism is broken physically
[00:28] <Dragoneye> Graphics, not mouse!
[00:28] <qwebirc49809> my mouse is the fault
[00:29] <jeffree> I really don't think it's the mouse, but I can't prove that. Don't have another working mouse to test.
[00:29] <jeffree> Dragoneye: are you saying you experience this too?
[00:30] <Toadisattva> I'm using 18.04 with gnome and firefox as my main browser as well so I don't think it's a software/buntu issue
[00:30] <qwebirc49809> i saw this on the guide "use a swap partition only if you have limited RAM resources or you use a fast SSD" i dont have a fast ssd, neither ssd, i have an hdd, but, i didnt understand "if you only have limited ram resource"
[00:30] <Dragoneye> jeffree: I see there is some flickering when overlapping windows with example a progress bar or something.
[00:30] <jeffree> Dragoneye: yes, that has been happening since 17.10, at least
[00:31] <jeffree> gnome-terminal does it for sure
[00:31] <jeffree> also, I'm using Xorg
[00:31] <Dragoneye> jeffree: I have installed nVida drivers, does not help
[00:32] <jeffree> Dragoneye: but, have you experienced the problem I described?
[00:32] <jeffree> the original problem
[00:32] <Dragoneye> jeffree: Do have dual display desktop and multiple cameras on one of them, mybe that is the course?
[00:33] <jeffree> Dragoneye: "Do have"?
[00:33] <Dragoneye> jeffree: have!
[00:33] <jeffree> digh
[00:33] <jeffree> sigh
[00:34] <Dragoneye> jeffree: :-)
[00:34] <qwebirc49809> could someone answer my question, please?
[00:35] <Dragoneye> jeffree: Did not look for that "bug" before installing nVidia driver.   Dont know if Nuoveo drivers have the same issue.
[00:38] <oerheks> qwebirc49809, ubuntu 18.04 uses a swap file, so to your first question, let ubuntu do the partitioning of the free space
[00:39] <pi__> hola
[00:39] <qwebirc49809> oerheks: in case i have 60 gigs of free space, can ubuntu use all of home,swap,and boot partition size?
[00:40] <oerheks> sure :-)
[00:40] <qwebirc49809> for example: if ubuntu used 10 gigs of space, would i be able to use all of the left space, so if i wanted to fill the partitions, can i fill all of the 50 gigs left?
[00:41] <Toadisattva> yes you can
[00:41] <qwebirc49809> of like, documents, games (using wine ofc), programs etc?
[00:42] <qwebirc49809> ah alright
[00:42] <qwebirc49809> thanks
[00:42] <qwebirc49809> but why when i followed the instructions on "https://www.tecmint.com/install-ubuntu-16-04-alongside-with-windows-10-or-8-in-dual-boot/" the author of the guide didnt create a swap partition
[00:43] <qwebirc49809> isn't swap important?
[00:43] <qwebirc49809> also, one more last question, when selecting to install ubuntu alongside windows 7, will be C: drive (which is windows 7 drive) affected?
[00:44] <Dragoneye> qwebirc49809: only if you exeed the limmit of your RAM,   but newer Linux versions would create a swap file on the same partition if I am not mistacen?
[00:45] <Toadisattva> if windows already has the whole disk ubuntu will ask you to shrink the windows partition so you'll have less space accessible from windows, but it won't mess with any of your existing files/setup
[00:45] <Dragoneye> qwebirc49809: If you have a 60GB empty partition and install Linux to, then Win 7 or any other will not get affected.
[00:46] <qwebirc49809> it only has 100 gigs of the whole 300 gigs, and D: drive uses about 140 gigs
[00:46] <R13ose> Hi
[00:46] <qwebirc49809> hi
[00:47] <R13ose> The keyboard is making noise that the mic picks up
[00:47] <qwebirc49809> Time to install ubuntu :))
[00:47] <R13ose> How do I fix my issue?
[00:47] <Dragoneye> qwebirc49809: Boot a live Ubuntu and resize first.  Or you can install Ubuntu alongside on the same partition.
[00:47] <qwebirc49809> i think u should lower the sensivity
[00:47] <qwebirc49809> im already on live ubuntu dragoneye
[00:48] <oerheks> R13ose, keyboard-noise-killer :-D
[00:48] <Dragoneye> qwebirc49809: :-)
[00:48] <qwebirc49809> ;)
[00:48] <qwebirc49809> wish me luck
[00:48] <R13ose> oerheks: is that a thing? :D
[00:48] <qwebirc49809> i will be nordo when i join next time
[00:48] <Dragoneye> qwebirc49809: So you have a 60BG unpartitioned space ?
[00:49] <qwebirc49809> yes, free, unallocated and unpartitioned space
[00:49] <Dragoneye> qwebirc49809: Crossing our fingers for you :-)  Good summer.
[00:49] <qwebirc49809> thx :)))
[00:49] <Dragoneye> Then you want to check the south check advanced when it comes to partiotioning under install.  there you choose that empty  space.
[00:50] <qwebirc49809> me?
[00:50] <Dragoneye> qwebirc49809: what version are you installing?
[00:50] <qwebirc49809> latest, lts
[00:50] <qwebirc49809> 18.04
[00:50] <Dragoneye> 18.04?
[00:50] <Dragoneye> rignt
[00:50] <Dragoneye> right
[00:50] <qwebirc49809> btw
[00:50] <oerheks> R13ose, no, it is the placement of the mic that matters
[00:51] <R13ose> oerheks: the mic is on the laptop
[00:51] <qwebirc49809> which boot loader will be used after i install, windows or ubuntu one (grub)?
[00:51] <qwebirc49809> damn bad luck r13ose
[00:51] <oerheks> oh, then typing gives resonance
[00:51] <qwebirc49809> try to lower the sensivity
[00:51] <Dragoneye> qwebirc49809: choose advansed so you can choose that partiotion you just cleared :-)
[00:51] <R13ose> How?
[00:51] <qwebirc49809> it should be a setting
[00:52] <qwebirc49809> on the app u are using
[00:52] <R13ose> qwebirc49809: happens on all apps
[00:53] <Dragoneye> qwebirc49809: something else is the option.
[00:53] <qwebirc49809> ah, look, sorry, i aint an expert, not to be mean, look for someone which does know in these things
[00:54] <qwebirc49809> aye dragoneye, which boot loader will be used on the machine, grub or windows boot loader?
[00:54] <Dragoneye> qwebirc49809: https://www.linuxtechi.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Installation-type-Ubuntu18-04.jpg
[00:54] <Dragoneye> qwebirc49809: grub
[00:54] <oerheks> yes, this is trivia night, Dragoneye :-D
[00:54] <qwebirc49809> alright
[00:54] <oerheks> one point
[00:54] <qwebirc49809> cant i change it to the windows one?
[00:55] <oerheks> .. this one is 2 points
[00:55] <Dragoneye> qwebirc49809: yes
[00:55] <qwebirc49809> well then i will change it when i install ubuntu
[00:55] <Dragoneye> qwebirc49809: but not booting linux I guess.
[00:55] <qwebirc49809> oh damn
[00:56] <qwebirc49809> then i think ill be fine with that, as long my dad doesnt use the laptop
[00:56] <qwebirc49809> anyways
[00:56] <Dragoneye> qwebirc49809: Grub will boot the windows loader and boot windows.
[00:56] <qwebirc49809> any last things to be said before i leave, in case u forgot to tell me something?
[00:56] <qwebirc49809> alright
[00:57] <Dragoneye> qwebirc49809: Will be great if you choose the right options  :-)
[00:57] <qwebirc49809> what do u mean?
[00:58] <qwebirc49809> oh
[00:58] <qwebirc49809> alright
[00:58] <qwebirc49809> well
[00:58] <Toadisattva> you can set it to autoboot into windows for others to use if they are more comfrotable with athat
[00:58] <Dragoneye> qwebirc49809: As you have learned here :-)
[00:58] <Toadisattva> and just hold shift to load up grub and boot buntu when you want to
[00:58] <Toadisattva> if you don't want ppl fiddling with your grub menu
[00:58] <qwebirc49809> woah really, does that work?
[00:58] <qwebirc49809> toad?
[00:59] <Dragoneye> timeout is 10s No need for shift
[00:59] <qwebirc49809> that will be awesome
[00:59] <Toadisattva> ah yeah you can set the timeout too
[00:59] <qwebirc49809> um
[00:59]  * Dragoneye in my case.
[00:59] <qwebirc49809> alright, thanks
[00:59] <qwebirc49809> um
[00:59] <Dragoneye> qwebirc49809: www.linuxtechi.com/ubuntu-18-04-lts-desktop-installation-guide-screenshots/
[01:00] <Dragoneye> qwebirc49809: last review?
[01:01] <qwebirc49809> https://imgur.com/SpWUjxW
[01:01] <Dragoneye> qwebirc49809: Here you choose the option "something else"  and chose your 60BG empty spot  :-)
[01:01] <Dragoneye> Then your off to fly on your own, good speed my friend.
[01:01] <qwebirc49809> haha, thanks dude
[01:01] <Dragoneye> :-D
[01:02] <qwebirc49809> um just click on the free space then click "install now" right?
[01:02] <imbainsik> Anyone here kind enough to share there personal iptables and ufw script? newbie here :(
[01:02] <Dragoneye> Riht
[01:02] <qwebirc49809> Thank you all so much
[01:02] <Dragoneye> (y)
[01:02] <qwebirc49809> dragoneye, thank you :))
[01:02] <qwebirc49809> wait wait and
[01:03] <Dragoneye> qwebirc49809: np! hope to see you again!
[01:03] <qwebirc49809> device for boot loader installation, which one?
[01:03] <Dragoneye> sda usaly
[01:03] <qwebirc49809> which one? the free space?
[01:03] <Dragoneye> sda
[01:03] <Dragoneye> boot loader on sda
[01:04] <qwebirc49809> ah my hdd then
[01:04] <qwebirc49809> not a specific partition then
[01:04] <qwebirc49809> "/dev/sda" thats it
[01:04] <Dragoneye> nope, just wich harddrive
[01:04] <Dragoneye> the harddrive that the compouter is booting from
[01:04] <qwebirc49809> yyyyeeep
[01:04] <qwebirc49809> thx
[01:04] <qwebirc49809> oh and i will be nordo when i get here next time
[01:05] <qwebirc49809> ok?
[01:05] <Dragoneye> nordo?   As in nordover?
[01:06] <qwebirc49809> no idea about that xD, just thought in my mind "oh what my name will be, im wondering..." and then this came to my mind xD
[01:06] <Dragoneye> Dont know the lingo, but in Norwegian it means norht
[01:06] <Dragoneye> Not a bad name ;-)
[01:06] <qwebirc49809> yeah
[01:06] <qwebirc49809> anyways
[01:06] <qwebirc49809> BAII BAAAAAAi
[01:06] <Dragoneye> Dont know the lingo, but in Norwegian it means northways
[01:07] <qwebirc49809> no root file system is selected
[01:07] <qwebirc49809> duh
[01:07] <qwebirc49809> is defined*
[01:08] <Dragoneye> That was a new one...
[01:08] <Dragoneye> askubuntu.com/questions/80455/no-root-file-system-defined-error-while-installing-ubuntu
[01:09] <qwebirc49809> hey dragon
[01:09] <Dragoneye> hey
[01:09] <qwebirc49809> um its telling me that there is no root file system is defined
[01:10] <qwebirc49809> oh wait i didnt see the link
[01:10] <qwebirc49809> srryyy
[01:11] <qwebirc49809> dude
[01:11] <qwebirc49809> why i just dont click "install alongside windows 7"
[01:12] <Dragoneye> You on live linux?
[01:12] <Toadisattva> that's wut you want to click
[01:12] <qwebirc49809> yes
[01:12] <qwebirc49809> lol what
[01:12] <Dragoneye> ok. 1s
[01:12] <qwebirc49809> u just sent me a link of an image that i should click on something else
[01:13] <Toadisattva> maybe I'm missing something this should be pretty straightforward install alongsied windows, allocate the patition size, let it install
[01:13] <Toadisattva> bam you dual boot
[01:13] <qwebirc49809> yeah
[01:13] <Dragoneye> And on that sub page there was your empty partition that you should choose.
[01:13] <oerheks> he knows all this, he is busy for days with the same problem
[01:14] <oerheks> which is no problem at all
[01:14] <qwebirc49809> If you continue, the changes listed below will be written to the disks. Otherwise, you will be able to make further changes manually.  The partition tables of the following devices are changed:  SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda)  The following partitions are going to be formatted:  partition #5 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as ext4
[01:14] <qwebirc49809> yeah sorry, im just a bit worried
[01:14] <qwebirc49809> um
[01:14] <qwebirc49809> so a new partition will be created (partition #5) huh?
[01:15] <Dragoneye> on your empty space yes
[01:15] <qwebirc49809> thanks everybody
[01:15] <qwebirc49809> installing
[01:15] <qwebirc49809> hope i dont mess anything
[01:16] <Dragoneye> Gotta have a break, this is exciting.
[01:18] <qwebirc49809> woah even ubuntu knew that i am using hp g62
[01:18] <qwebirc49809> thats alot better than windows
[01:20] <Toadisattva> linux is great at detecting hardware
[01:20] <Toadisattva> way way better than windoze
[01:21] <Toadisattva> I guess with fancy new graphics cards you may want third party drivers, but even those tend to play well wtih the efault out of the box settings
[01:21] <Dragoneye> qwebirc49809: you good?
[01:21] <Toadisattva> err I should say proprietary drivers
[01:21] <Toadisattva> as the out of the box usually are the third party lol
[01:22] <Dragoneye> Using nVidia drivers always.
[01:33] <RoDiMuS-X> ww
[01:34] <R13ose> Any ideas on my question?
[01:36] <Dragoneye> R13ose: Yes the earth is flat!
[01:37] <RoDiMuS-X> The sky is blue
[01:37] <Dragoneye> And the mouse is pink
[01:37] <Toadisattva> flat earth is just a nasa conspiracy to distract you from the hollow earth and the cannabilistic humanoid underground dweller that live within it
[01:37] <Toadisattva> dwellers*
[01:38] <Dragoneye> If the earth is round, then why is the underside of the mouse flat?
[01:38] <R13ose> Dragoneye: we knew that
[01:40] <Toadisattva> but wihat of the trackball?
[01:40] <Dragoneye> That proves the round thingy
[01:42] <Dragoneye> Still wanders how I can change some of the Nautilus's static upper left column items my own :-)
[01:43] <Toadisattva> like the side menu?
[01:43] <Dragoneye> ye
[01:43] <Dragoneye> s
[01:44] <Toadisattva> I think you can click and drag things over there to add them?
[01:44] <Toadisattva> let me see here
[01:44] <Dragoneye> yes, as a bookmark.  and that fappends on the downside
[01:44] <Dragoneye> I need one under "documents"
[01:44] <Toadisattva> oh I see
[01:44] <Dragoneye> That I wanna call "Private"
[01:45] <Toadisattva> ah the pr0n folder
[01:45] <Toadisattva> ;)
[01:45] <ljc> lol
[01:45] <Dragoneye> My own Preking folder :-D
[01:45] <Toadisattva> everyone knows you add that to the desktop under :work stuff"
[01:46] <Dragoneye> Then we need a Work folder just under the Document one.
[01:47] <Nordo> I ruined everything
[01:47] <Dragoneye> k?
[01:47] <Nordo> ITS ALL YOUR FAULT
[01:48] <Nordo> jk ;)
[01:48] <Nordo> IM GOOD
[01:48] <Toadisattva> happy to be of service
[01:48]  * Toadisattva makes another notch in the belt
[01:48] <Nordo> haha
[01:48] <Nordo> thanks again guys
[01:49] <Nordo> now if i wanted to expand ubuntu partition more, can i?, so for example: if i want to make the partition to be 70 gigs, instead of 60
[01:50] <Dragoneye> Nordo: qwebirc49809 thats you? :-D
[01:50] <Nordo> yes -_-\
[01:50] <Nordo> didnt i tell u that i will be nordo
[01:50] <Dragoneye> yes you did
[01:50] <Nordo> lemme try ubento
[01:51] <Dragoneye> I relapsed  a bit here , good your up :-)
[01:51] <Nordo> haha
[01:51] <Nordo> thx bud
[01:51] <Dragoneye> :-D
[01:51] <Nordo> lemme install some soft
[01:51] <punkgeek> Hello guys, sorry what can i do with this error:
[01:51] <punkgeek> org.kde.kcoreaddons: Error loading plugin "kcm_lookandfeel" "The shared library was not found."
[01:51] <Dragoneye> right on
[01:51] <Toadisattva> I'm sure you can resize the partition but I haven't tried that, I'm of the kill your windoae and give it all to linux persuasion
[01:51] <Toadisattva> :P
[01:52] <Nordo> anyways
[01:52] <Dragoneye> Nordo: cannot resize the partition in use
[01:53] <Dragoneye> get back to live
[01:53] <Nordo> damn lol, most of the 'games' in ubuntu software are emulators
[01:53] <Nordo> nah im fine with windows
[01:53] <Toadisattva> playonlinux is very good for gaming in linux
[01:53] <Nordo> anyone has got discord?
[01:53] <Nordo> toad, is it like wine?
[01:53] <Toadisattva> really good support forums and a lot of games already included with the right settings
[01:53] <Toadisattva> it
[01:53] <Toadisattva> s a frontend for wine
[01:54] <swift110> hey all
[01:54] <Toadisattva> so it does the config for you for the most part
[01:54] <Toadisattva> great little proggy
[01:54] <Nordo> lemme install it and play RBR on it hell yeaa
[01:54] <Nordo> yeah ik that i cant install programs just like windows
[01:54] <Nordo> sudo get....
[01:54] <Toadisattva> sudo apt-get install
[01:54] <Toadisattva> sudo apt-get install playonlinux in this case
[01:55] <Toadisattva> or use the software center
[01:55] <Nordo> yeah im using that
[01:55] <Nordo> just wondering, is linux most used for coding?
[01:57] <Toadisattva> I don't know that coding is it's main use
[01:57] <Dragoneye> Nordo: sudo  apt search steam
[01:57] <Dragoneye> Nordo: sudo  apt install steam
[01:57] <Nordo> i dont have a steam account
[01:58] <Nordo> i dont use steam at all
[01:58] <Toadisattva> yep steam has a linux version too
[01:58] <Toadisattva> and you can actually run the windows steam in wine/playonlinux
[01:58] <Dragoneye> ok. There is some good games on Linux
[01:58] <Nordo> just pirated xD (oh damn i will get arrested for saying that"
[01:58] <Toadisattva> yarg mayte
[01:58] <Dragoneye> lol
[01:58] <punkgeek> anybody have idea about this error?
[01:59] <punkgeek>  org.kde.kcoreaddons: Error loading plugin "kcm_lookandfeel" "The shared library was not found."
[01:59] <Toadisattva> what command were you running when you got the error?
[01:59] <Nordo> i know, the shared library was not found
[02:00] <Nordo> anyways, could someone tell me how to enable mouse wheel click scrolling IN THIS CRAPPY OS!!1!!!!!11!!
[02:00] <Toadisattva> I assume you've done a standard apt update?
[02:01] <punkgeek> Toadisattva: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3W3s8csm6m/
[02:01] <punkgeek> here is the output
[02:01] <Dragoneye> Nordo: everything is on the windows key on the left hold it down and the mouse guestures does what you want
[02:03] <Toadisattva> I think that one beyond my paygrade lol
[02:03] <ljc> uh so i'm trying to change the hostname on ubuntu server
[02:03] <Dragoneye> :-)
[02:04] <ljc> i followed the instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic, did a reboot and still it's the old hostname
[02:04] <Dragoneye> Nordo: ?
[02:04] <Nordo> yes?
[02:05] <Dragoneye> Nordo: did you sovle it?
[02:05] <Nordo> not really
[02:05] <Nordo> look
[02:05] <Nordo> when you press on the mouse wheel
[02:05] <Nordo> it does enable some sort of scrolling method
[02:06] <Nordo> but in ubuntu, it doesnt seem to be able to do that
[02:06] <Dragoneye> ahaa.. your talking about some driver for windows that does not work in linux?
[02:07] <Dragoneye> what kind of mouse do you have?
[02:09] <ljc> aight hostnamectl did it..
[02:09] <Dragoneye> Nordo: Windows does not work in Linux!  live with it. But there is allways a way
[02:09] <ljc> not sure what the point of having hostname binary on the system still is
[02:09] <Toadisattva> do you just want it int he browser?
[02:09] <Toadisattva> this might help? https://askubuntu.com/questions/95267/mouse-wheel-click-scrolling-in-firefox
[02:10] <ljc> wait i spoke too soon -_-
[02:10] <ljc> lol
[02:10] <Dragoneye> Toadisattva: :-D
[02:11] <Nordo> oh well that help thx toad
[02:11] <Dragoneye> Nordo: Toadisattva has a few interresting things.
[02:12] <Dragoneye> I have to ro out to my boat and get that sucker not sucked under.  pump pump...
[02:12] <Toadisattva> merrily merrily merrily
[02:13] <Toadisattva> :)
[02:14] <Nordo> um
[02:14] <Nordo> how to mount images
[02:14] <Nordo> like isos
[02:14] <xjkx> How do I remove opera ppa ?    How many cars....  WRONG ANWER!!   How many buissinesses   WRONG ANSWER!
[02:31] <Dragoneye> www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoRmbcluHZU&index=96&list=PL6170F0A2D26A503E
[02:31] <Dragoneye> Dont care anymore.  take care!
[02:32] <Nordo> wait u forgot ur discord password?
[02:32] <Dragoneye> ke?
[02:32] <Nordo> yes?
[02:32] <Dragoneye> Did we?
[02:35] <Nordo> u drunk?
[02:35] <Dragoneye> just trying to rememger the password
[02:36] <ubuntu_newb> hello world!   :-D
[02:36] <Nordo> u drink vodka, just like russian, BOOOI
[02:38] <Dragoneye> Nordo: nope. Beer
[02:38] <Nordo> im a muslim, i cant drink that shit
[02:38] <Nordo> and i will never
[02:38] <guiverc> folks, this is a support room so please stay on topic.
[02:39] <Nordo> oh alright, sorry
[02:39] <guiverc> ubuntu_newb, outline your issue & you may get help. please use a single line (if possible)
[02:39] <Dragoneye> Nordo: your calling yourself a Nordo and your a muslim?
[02:39] <Nordo> aye, idk what does that mean, that name just went on my mind and i named myself that in this channel
[02:40] <guiverc> Dragoneye, if you want to talk about other things, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, unless its Ubuntu related where #ubuntu-discuss can be used..
[02:40] <ubuntu_newb> after errors loading my machine (entered single user mode) and did not wnat to telinit; Trying to revert to an older kernel I seem to have removed the vmlinux and initrd; I cant even get it to single user mode anymore :(
[02:42] <Dragoneye> Nordo: just installed the discord and some other people is janking my  chains.   And your a ... anyhow. tnx4talk
[02:42] <ubuntu_newb> After trying to downgrade my kernel I updated grub and don't have a copy of the original menuentry that I need to get it running
[02:42] <Nordo> gimme ur goddamn nickname
[02:42] <Nordo> and lets move outta this channel before we get banned
[02:43] <Dragoneye> Nordo: lol
[02:43] <guiverc> could it be ubuntu_newb that you're not mounting /boot, thus it appears as if there is nothing there, or did you do something (you think?) that removed older kernels (by default current & 3 older ones should remain from memory)
[02:45] <guiverc> how did you try & downgrade your kernel? ubuntu_newb
[02:47] <ubuntu_newb> guiverc: well, after various tryies, I was able to rewrite my grub entry and it seems to load /boot but it seems to have an error loading vmlinux...
[02:47] <Dragoneye> NOW IM f* tired of this s* discordapp!    Have been clicking this s* with steetlight , roads, houses and whatesver...  Dont care anymore. have a nice day! byby
[02:47] <ubuntu_newb> I added and change /vmlinuz
[02:48] <ubuntu_newb>  I added and change /vmlinuz and /initrd.img links
[02:49] <tomreyn> those are maintained automatically, you wouldn't normally need / want to do this.
[02:49] <tomreyn> ubuntu_newb: vmlinuz, zhe thing that's not loading now, is your linux kernel. so linux is not starting at all now.
[02:50] <ubuntu_newb> yes, an error in judgement
[02:50] <ubuntu_newb> The other problem is that I have an encypted drive so menuentry can't use this
[02:50] <ubuntu_newb> anyway
[02:50] <tomreyn> ubuntu_newb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery#Update_Failure explains (in parts) how to recover from a situation similar to this. you could use this approach to reinstall the kernel.
[02:51] <tomreyn> but you might be better off reinstalling if you're new.
[02:51] <ubuntu_newb> oh god no!
[02:52] <tomreyn> it's not so bad usually.  you just reinstall, which is somewhat quick, and restore your backups.
[02:52] <guiverc> ubuntu_newb, re-installing the OS shouldn't mean you lose any of your data (ie. data in /home/ directories)
[02:53] <tomreyn> well they will if its on the same partition
[02:53] <tomreyn> but that's why we all have backups, right
[02:53] <ubuntu_newb> it is on the same partition; and it (/home/user) is encrypted as well
[02:56] <ubuntu_newb> tomreyn: thanks for the link, but I can't find how to add a kernel and initrd from a recovery disk (by the way I am running a recovery disk on the machine right now))
[02:57] <ubuntu_newb> I have a backup but its at least a month old
[02:57] <tomreyn> ubuntu_newb: after steps 8 and 9, you purge all kernel images and linux-image-generic* and install linux-image-generic again.
[03:00] <ubuntu_newb> ohh sorry, i skimmed over chroot part; i thought it was updating the recovery usb
[03:06] <ubuntu_newb> tomreyn: when I follow those instructions and upgrade I am not asked to upgrade the kernel (I assume because I manually removed the files); should I try to install directly
[03:08] <tomreyn> ubuntu_newb: indeed, the system probably thinks that the kernels are still present, and are current.
[03:09] <tomreyn> ubuntu_newb: so you should either reinstall the latest kernel package or purge all kernel packages and reinstall the genric one
[03:09] <tomreyn> ubuntu_newb: manually installing a kernel is not a great way forward.
[03:17] <davido_> Is it possible to omit /dev/loop* (/snap/*) devices from 'df' output?
[03:17] <davido_> (aside by piping through grep -v '^/snap/') ?
[03:18] <tomreyn> you can | grep -v '^/dev/loop'
[03:20] <davido_> well yeah.... Though I undersatnd why snaps are included in df output, it still feels an undesireable outcome of using snaps, and was hoping perhaps there were an alternative that didn't rise to the level of alias df='df |grep -v "...'  :)
[03:21] <tomreyn> maybe there is, i would not know. there is apt purge snapd
[03:21] <davido_> That would remove all snaps though right?
[03:22] <tomreyn> yes, as well as snapd
[03:22] <guiverc> if there is, i'm not aware of it.  maybe the snappy room have a answer (or it may start someone thinking about it...)
[03:22] <davido_> Hm, wasn't aware of that room.  I'll look for it.
[03:22] <hggdh> there is none. df looks at all filesystems, and reports on them
[03:23] <hggdh> /dev/loop happens to be a filesystem, so...
[03:24] <ubuntu_newb> tomreyn: Thanks, I've made progress and understand this a little more
[03:25] <hggdh> of course, one could use df -t <ftype1> -t <ftype2> ...
[03:25] <tomreyn> ubuntu_newb: glad to hear this, i was wondering what happened to you
[03:26] <ubuntu_newb> sorry just going through everything.
[03:26] <tomreyn> ubuntu_newb: nah thats fine, good luck there.
[03:26] <ubuntu_newb> thanks!
[03:27] <davido_> Thanks, that's what I suspected.  -t is good though, as I could set up a decent alias.
[03:28] <hggdh> or try df -x squahfs (but this will take out ALL squashfs
[03:35] <muzgo> i use ubuntu 16.04.4 on a vaio laptop connected to an external monitor via hdmi. two days ago the cable was disconnected from the vaio and connected to another laptop. when it was connected back, ubuntu couldn't recognize this or any other external display connected display via hdmi. yesterday the hdmi output was shown as disconnected on xrandr, even if the cable was connected, but i could use xrandr to force mirroring the laptop screen to the external monito
[03:37] <tomreyn> ^ this was cut off  "but i could use xrandr to force mirroring the laptop screen to the external monito" << here due to irc's maximum line length.
[03:38] <muzgo> oh sorry about that
[03:39] <muzgo> yesterday the hdmi output was shown as disconnected on  xrandr, even if the cable was connected, but i could use xrandr to force mirroring the laptop screen to the external  monitor. today, after many tries yesterday, xrandr doesn't even show the hdmi output anymore. i booted live ubuntu  18.04 and fedora 28 and still no hdmi output on xrandr. i pasted some relevant information to
[03:39] <muzgo>  http://paste.ubunetu.com/p/hV98mXY4hT. any ideas on how to proceed or what the root cause of the problems may be?
[03:42] <tomreyn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hV98mXY4hT/ would be your pastebin url
[03:43] <tomreyn> did you try switching off the laptop, removing the battery, too (if that's an option with this model), then switching it back on?
[03:44] <tomreyn> also, did you try removing power off the external mointor for some minutes?
[03:44] <juan_> holaaa
[03:44] <tomreyn> !es | juan_
[03:45] <juan_> ok...gracias
[03:45] <tomreyn> de nada
[03:45] <bray90820> How would I set ubunu to use samba 2
[03:45] <bray90820> ubuntu 18.04
[03:48] <cw_the_developer> hey what's up people
[04:12] <George> Can anyone help me get ubuntu working on my TI omap zoom2?
[04:15] <guiverc> George, what is your problem; by stating the problem people in the channel will have more idea of what knowledge is needed & if they can help.  (try and keep to a single line if possible)
[04:29] <muzgo> tomreyn: i did not. gonna try it now
[04:30] <muzgo> bray90820: do you mean SMB2? and in what situation?
[04:32] <Ouyan> :el" eff. ,dnl
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> Ouyan: can we help you?
[04:34] <uboa> hello. is there a more apple-notes like app for ubuntu that isn't `snap install notes` (which both is broken [cant resize the window] and doesn't fit well with native theme)?
[04:34] <uboa> tomboy notes doesn't work for me i don't like that it forces you to use a title
[04:35] <uboa> i just wanna make a new note and start typing
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> uboa: there are a ton of notes packages mate, like tomboy
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> uboa: apt-cache search notes
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> obobo: or search in your software centre?
[04:35] <uboa> yeah but are any of them *good*
[04:35] <uboa> do you have any favorites
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> uboa: i personally like tomboy
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> uboa: not sure what would suit a more macOs notes..never worked with one on apple
[04:38] <uboa> try snap install notes
[04:38] <uboa> hard to look back
[04:40] <mahdi_ja> hi all
[04:40] <mahdi_ja> i an connect to android wife hotspot for using internet in pc.
[04:41] <mahdi_ja> but i cant not access some site for example ubuntu update server and other
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> uboa: https://www.ubuntupit.com/13-best-evernote-alternative-note-taking-apps-linux/
[04:41] <mahdi_ja> but i test it in windows and with same connection i can open sites
[04:42] <mahdi_ja> why these site not open in ubuntu but open in windows please help me
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> mahdi_ja: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-wireless-adhoc.html
[04:49] <mahdi_ja> lotuspsychje, i want use android hotspot not create hotspot in my pc
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> mahdi_ja: then you need the android support channel
[04:50] <muzgo> tomreyn: after taking the battery off, booted one without the hdmi cable, once with it. this last time, the hdmi output shows up on xrandr
[04:51] <muzgo> still shows as disconnected, tho. and no second monitor is detected
[05:10] <luxio> anyone know of programs that let you make a timelapse?
[05:28] <qwert> hi all.. may i ask how to enable non free archive in xenial?
[05:36] <SuperLag> I'm confused. Why is the quality of the font/graphics like a roll of the dice for me? A couple days ago, I was asking if it was possible to have a clear/crisp UX on a 32" 4K screen, because things were fuzzy. Today, I reboot into Linux again... and the difference is night and day.
[05:36] <SuperLag> I haven't changed any of the configuration, at all.
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> !rootirc | root
[05:56] <guiverc> SuperLag, a lot of people aren't using 4k screens (refer to % of them in recent 18.04 feedback details); but most importantly many devs don't have them so can't test or develop for them.  some DEs cope better than others, so picking a DE that has concentrated on it may help. fonts, esp. if pre-4k era may not have considered being blown to that magnification.  you may need to be choosy with picking DE, picking apps, fonts etc...
[05:56] <charlin> hi,body
[05:57] <SuperLag> guiverc: just the stock Gnome stuff. Nothing fancy or custom here. Installed a few third-party apps, but that's it.
[05:57] <charlin> how setup the internet of virtualbox under wifi
[05:59] <SuperLag> charlin: should just work if you use a NAT interface on your VM
[05:59] <pea_brain> dear all, i am trying to setup a backup mechanism using rsync where the backup server should have minimal access to the servers being backed up. i mean no root access, no shell access, rsync tunnelled into ssh. what should be the ideal way to achieve this ? all servers ubuntu 18.04.  i need to backup root owned files in servers also
[05:59] <SuperLag> charlin: however... this isn't the VirtualBox channel. :)
[05:59] <guiverc> gnome was much slower at dealing with 4K when compared to Unity.  It was only 2017 when gnome started blogging about it; the canonical moving from Unity caused the first fedora/canonical/gnome sprint that i'm aware of...
[06:00] <SuperLag> pea_brain: I'd do key-based access, disable interactive authentication.
[06:00] <SuperLag> pea_brain: where will the backups be initiated? the client(s) or the server?
[06:01] <pea_brain> @SuperLag what about no root access ? backups initiated in backup server
[06:02] <SuperLag> pea_brain: ah, sorry. I missed the last part "I need to backup root owned files in servers also"
[06:02] <SuperLag> pea_brain: I wouldn't initiate the backups from the server. I'd initiate them from the clients.
[06:03] <pea_brain> SuperLag: any advantage of doing that ?
[06:03] <SuperLag> pea_brain: I'm not sure about advantage. Just how I'd handle it.
[06:04] <pea_brain> SuperLag: i usually do it on server so that i can decide on order, i get one single log file.
[06:06] <SuperLag> pea_brain: Okay. Then I'd generate an SSH keypair on the server, and copy the public key from that pair to the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file of all the accounts you want to back up from the client machines. And I'd also, for good security measures, probably disable interactive authentication and use key-only from SERVER -> CLIENT(S)
[06:08] <pea_brain> SuperLag:  i need to backup root owned files in servers also. but i dont want to allow root login from backup server
[06:25] <SuperLag> pea_brain: passwordless sudo for your backup user, then, I'd say
[06:35] <pea_brain> SuperLag: can you pls explain how
[06:37] <pea_brain> SuperLag: how my rsync will be able to fetch root owned files ?
[06:38] <SuperLag> that's where passwordless sudo comes in, I think...
[06:38] <SuperLag> https://askubuntu.com/questions/192050/how-to-run-sudo-command-with-no-password
[06:40] <pea_brain> SuperLag: i know that. i am asking, how do we do direct rsync from backup server to use sudo enabled user
[06:53] <s0ckm0nk3y> test
[06:53] <s0ckm0nk3y> nm it works lol
[07:02] <sahaj> hello everyone , i'm new to IRC can anyone help me here please
[07:03] <guiverc_d> sahaj, please just ask your question (if Ubuntu supported related), ideally in a single line (if possible), and please be patient giving people in room time to notice it & respond/help if they are able
[07:05] <sahaj> thank you. how to activate hot corners in ubuntu 18.04
[07:15] <click> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abkzhRYHVqc
[07:16] <click> i cannot load this youtube on ubuntu
[07:16] <click> can some one help me how to ?
[07:21] <guiverc> click, what browser are you using?
[07:23] <click> palemoon
[07:24] <guiverc> sorry I don't know that browser; it works for me in chromium  (I don't see palemoon in the repos)
[07:25] <click> i have that too i tried it on that all youtube vids play as usual but this one giving error http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abkzhRYHVqc
[07:28] <guiverc> i opened it & only saw a music vid click, I didn't let much play (not my sort of music) before closing it - did you get an error in chromium; it could be region blocking only (not a ubuntu issue, just your geo-location)
[07:29] <click> my friend sent me that this is funny rede tv link not a music vid link
[07:30] <guiverc> (i reopened it - a 45min tv show (not music vid!); plays for me
[07:30] <click> guiverc can you share it with me using vnc ?
[07:33] <guiverc> click I wouldn't know how, and not sure its a good idea anyway. i could open it too in tor-browser so I'd suggest you try that
[07:38] <click> guiverc do ubuntu users sky dive in australia ?
[07:39] <guiverc> click, sky dive?  - i suspect aussies do the same things they do everywhere  (just after they've eaten their vegemite) - but that's offtopic in this room mate
[07:43] <click> cool
[07:44] <click> guiverc it worked i downloaded with www.convert2mp3.net/
[08:38] <takeme> what version is new?
[08:38] <guiverc_d> takeme, its june 2018, so 18.04 (2018.april) is the latest release (not in testing)
[08:39] <takeme> using 17 is bad?
[08:40] <guiverc_d> 17.04 (2017-april) is EOL, 17.10 (2017-october) has a month left in its 9 month life...
[08:40] <takeme> ah
[08:40] <takeme> thanks
[08:40] <guiverc_d> ubuntu is very easy to work out - LTS = long term support; 5 years, normal = 9 months
[08:42] <takeme> using apt-get and git-hub is same when i install program?
[08:44] <takeme> guiverc_d: ?
[08:57] <parapan> hi fellows; I have a problem installing ubuntu into an old PC - which doesn't have UEFI support; so it seems the only option will be to install ubuntu from DOS; so I have a bootable USB with freeDOS+ a folder with all the Ubuntu files; question is how do I start the install from DOS command line ?
[08:59] <takeme> guiverc_d: 18 is great thanks :)
[08:59] <blackflow> parapan: does the computer have USB ports? why is UEFI a problem? Ubuntu doesn't require it
[09:02] <parapan> blackflow: the motherboard is the problem; doesn't support the legacy or UEFI boot mode; even for windows (when wanting to boot from USB0 the manufacturer recommend using the DOS boot with some WinXP files . . .
[09:03] <guiverc_d> takeme, apt-get gets from repositories (repos), and has been tested with Ubuntu & packaged by Canonical (main), or community (universe) etc... git was put there by developer who may use another distro (not Ubuntu) & thus wasn't tested on the version of Ubuntu you may be using..
[09:04] <parapan> blackflow: so I figure it out to create an USB stick to boot into DOS and then using the command line to launch the ubuntu install . . .or maybe there is another way to do this directly with linux files ?
[09:04] <takeme> guiverc_d: thanks
[09:05] <guiverc_d> takeme, repos are also maintained per version, so you'll only get bionic versions for your 18.04, git may have software that uses libs/other for different (older, newer) releases...
[09:05] <blackflow> parapan: well, create the USB stick with Ubuntu ISOs directly?
[09:06] <takeme> ok guiverc_d :)
[09:06] <parapan> blackflow: the install (for windows at least) is working if I can burn a DVD image from an .iso file; but the USB doesn't work, no matter I speak about windows or linux; the error at boot is "no operating system found" . . .
[09:06] <blackflow> parapan: some older computers can't boot from USB. If that's the case with yours, you'll have to burn a DVD from Ubuntu ISO too.
[09:07] <blackflow> parapan: But... we're talking very old, possibly 32-bit only? What computer is that?
[09:09] <parapan> blackflow: motherboard is supermicro C2SMB; processor is quad core 9600, 64 bits; the Windows 64 bits installed from DVD is working fine; so it's old , but not dark age . . .
[09:11] <parapan> I wonder if there is a linux boot which is equivalent with freeDOS ?
[09:11] <blackflow> parapan: why.... can that computer boot from USB?
[09:12] <blackflow> parapan: I hope you do understand that whatever Linux you boot from ...... to install ubuntu off ..... you can just boot straight into the Ubuntu installer ISO. :)
[09:13] <parapan> blackflow: there are alot of options on the boot sequence ...from all USB key to USB HDD, USB DVD, etc .....but simply putting a bootable stick ends up with the error " no operating system found" ..
[09:13] <blackflow> parapan: how did you prepare the Ubuntu ISO USB?
[09:14] <parapan> blackflow: I know that; and it's working if I boot from DVD; ....originally I've used rufus and the /iso image of Ubuntu 18
[09:15] <blackflow> okay, so you can boot Ubuntu installer from the DVD?
[09:15] <parapan> blackflow: yes, windows, ubuntu, no matter if I burn the same images to dvd . . .
[09:16] <parapan> but no way to make-it work via USB stick . ..
[09:16] <takeme> how can i install gqrx?
[09:17] <blackflow> parapan: then either that computer has a problem with booting off of USB, or you prepared the USB wrongly. But why do you insist on USB? If you can boot the installer from DVD, install it that way?
[09:19] <parapan> blackflow: You've got a point; but I hate It does not work; and I do not use the DVD; I have it disconnected normally so I can gain another bay for a HDD;
[09:21] <parapan> blackflow: C2SBC-Q may not support the FreeDOS OS; but that doesn't mean it is not supporting another way to boot from USB....
[09:22] <parapan> blackflow: I will try something and come back ...maybe we can chat again ...
[09:23] <parapan> blackflow: but if freeDOS is not supported what else can be used ??? what other OS ???
[09:26] <blackflow> parapan: forget about freedos. you can't install ubuntu from another operating system. you have to make bootable media from the Ubuntu ISO and use that.
[09:31] <parapan> blackflow: I think so; but i'll make a freedos bootable usb ...with just that os and see if it boots; if I receive the same error, most likely the freedos is not supported correct ?
[09:32] <blackflow> parapan: no, can't make that conclusion
[09:37] <marikf> Hello
[09:39] <marikf> Hi. What is your name?
[09:39] <EriC^^> hi
[09:39] <marikf> Hey there
[09:40] <marikf> My name is alina.
[09:40] <EriC^^> marikf: if you want to chat join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:40] <marikf> No, thanks.
[09:41] <EriC^^> k, this is the support channel feel free to ask ubuntu support related questions etc
[09:46] <takeme> how can i install arduino?
[09:48] <Jonta> takeme: What've you tried so far?
[09:49] <guiverc_d> takeme, its a universe package, `sudo apt install arduino` assuming universe is enabled (https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=arduino)
[09:49] <takeme> instaling arduino
[09:49] <takeme> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install arduino arduino-core   WARNING!!! THESE INSTRUCTIONS WILL INSTALL AN EXTREMELY OUTDATED  guiverc_d
[09:50] <guiverc_d> what [version] ubuntu are you running?
[09:50] <takeme> 18.04
[09:50] <takeme> guiverc_d:
[09:54] <guiverc_d> the version in the ubuntu repos is the latest tested & available from Ubuntu; you can download a tarball from the site https://www.arduino.cc/en/Main/Software & build yourself if you need the latest.
[09:59] <balbooaaa> anyone here
[09:59] <guiverc_d> nah
[09:59] <Jonta> !ask | balbooaaa
[10:33] <atif5> Hi
[10:34] <atif5> any real human here ?
[10:35] <Jonta> Yes
[10:37] <atif5> jonta
[10:37] <atif5> who are those 1600 people
[10:37] <TimeDoctor> should we all introduce ourselves?
[10:37] <Jonta> I will now tell you
[10:37] <Jonta> Every one of them has a story
[10:38] <Jonta> And they're all special in their own ways
[10:38] <Jonta> I'm afraid I've met less than 80% of them in person though
[10:38] <atif5> yes please
[10:38] <Jonta> atif5: People are sleeping. Do you have a question? :)
[10:39] <atif5> i am new to IRC so i dont know
[10:39] <webmind> I'm guessing those 1600 people are ubuntu users :)\
[10:39] <Jonta> It's common for people to "idle" in multiple channels
[10:40] <Jonta> Sometimes only coming over when called for by name
[10:40] <Jonta> Doing so if you don't know them, is quite rude
[10:40] <balbooaaa> does anyone uses i3wm here ?
[10:41] <Jonta> Yes
[10:44] <balbooaaa> do you know how can i make a certain app start on floating mode on i3wm ?
[10:44] <Jonta> How about https://faq.i3wm.org/question/4550/launch-in-floating-mode/index.html
[10:45] <balbooaaa> god damn, that was soo easy, thanks a loot Jonta
[10:45] <Jonta> :)
[10:49] <raidghost> Jonta sounds like "Jenta" (The girl) in norwegian :p
[10:49] <Jonta> Jeg uttaler det «Jånnta»
[10:49] <raidghost> hehehehe
[10:50] <raidghost> Dialekt?
[10:50] <Jonta> Also: Is being a girl bad?
[10:50] <raidghost> I have not said that its a bad thing
[10:50] <Jonta> Dodging the question, are we? :p
[10:51] <raidghost> *lol*
[10:51] <Jonta> I'll take that as a yes
[10:51] <Jonta> Trondheim here
[10:51] <raidghost> Asker Here
[10:51] <Jonta> Quick, Americans are asleep, how's the weather down south?
[10:52] <raidghost> Its .. let me check out the window
[10:52] <raidghost> Its Sunny
[10:52] <raidghost> And in trondheim?
[10:52] <blackflow> It's also ....                                                                             offtopic!  :)
[10:52] <Jonta> Cloudy. Probably showers
[10:52] <raidghost> blackflow: Morning :P
[10:52] <blackflow> nooning.
[10:52] <raidghost> Oh. Its Time diff
[10:54] <balbooaaa> where ya'll guys from ?
[10:54] <raidghost> blackflow: Trying to get libvirt (bridge) so it catch ip-adresses from my DHCP-server (<IP_ADDRESS>) and not making itself a <IP_ADDRESS>/24 net i cant reach from 10.0.0.X
[10:54] <raidghost> balbooaaa: Norway (but it was off topic as blackflow said :P
[10:54] <balbooaaa> goodluck today with Germans :p
[10:55] <raidghost> thanks
[10:55] <Jonta> /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:57] <blackflow> raidghost: not sure what the question is...
[10:58] <raidghost> blackflow: Bridged networking (aka "shared physical device") + libvirt
[10:59] <blackflow> raidghost: right but.... still no question there :)
[11:01] <raidghost> How can i set libvirt to use 10.0.0.X range instead of its own <IP_ADDRESS>/24 ? Tried to read on the libvirt.org guide. but it just messing up with my network settings.
[11:02] <oldtommy_> Q to 18.04 - LTS nautilus: results of file-search cannot be sorted by name, path, size of file: WHY ??? before 18.04 it was possible
[11:04] <blackflow> raidghost: I don't have much experience with libvirt, but as far as bridging goes, and DHCP is involved, you don't. you bridge eth0 with your virtual nics and they each present themselves as individual interfaces to your LAN and thus to the upstream dhcp.
[11:04] <raidghost> is what i thought. But it does not. So must be some wrong with my settings i guess. I tried to set bridge and select dhcp. But then suddenly there was bridge: <IP_ADDRESS> and eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:05] <oldtommy_> 18.04 - desktop: moving an application to the left/right border of the screen does not set its size to half - screen, quite useful - DOES NOT WORK anymore! in previous versions of ubuntu that worked!
[11:05] <raidghost> So it looses connection, since there is two ip-adresses with the same ip.
[11:06] <blackflow> raidghost: sounds like you've set up the bridge wrong. when you put, say, eth0 (physical device) in the bridge, you don't set up eth0, but the bridge, for static or dhcp networking.
[11:06] <S_Gautam> Hello
[11:07] <oldtommy_> 18.04 - nautilus: right-click (context-menu) does not offer the creation of a txt-document, was very useful in previous version: WHY is it NOT AVAILABLE anym more ??
[11:07] <blackflow> oldtommy_: is that gnome? Works here...
[11:07] <S_Gautam> How do I get a start menu style in Ubuntu 18.04 (I don't like the "side bar" and the activities bar in GNOME)
[11:07] <S_Gautam> I just want one taskbar since the two bars take decent amount of screen space
[11:08] <oldtommy_> @blackflow: just the standard installation of Ubuntu 18.04. How do I know if it is gnome?
[11:08] <blackflow> oldtommy_: it's gnome if it's standard installation of ubuntu, and not, say, xubuntu or kubuntu.
[11:09] <blackflow> (as of 17.10, before which the standard was Unity)
[11:10] <S_Gautam> How can I remove the Unity dock?
[11:10] <oldtommy_> @blackflow: yes, just ubuntu, not <any>ubuntu
[11:10] <zdf>    /exit
[11:10] <S_Gautam> is there any other way other than abandoning GNOME altogether and installing XFCE or KDE (which I don't want to?)
[11:11] <raidghost> blackflow: so i set the bridge interface in interfaces instead of eth0 ?
[11:11] <cactus00000> S_Gautam: there are other flavors of ubuntu aside from gnome such as xfce or the other desktop environments available in linux
[11:11] <S_Gautam> Nah, I just want to remove the dock and get a proper task bar
[11:11] <blackflow> oldtommy_: right so that's gnome. in 18.04 it's a bit of a frankengnome with it being 3.28 and some parts like nautilus from 3.26, because the gnome devs are cutting out features with each new release...
[11:12] <cactus00000> S_Gautam: there is an option to hide it in settings
[11:12] <S_Gautam> there's just auto-hide
[11:12] <blackflow> S_Gautam: not sure that's possible without extensions. gnome (which is gnome3) has a specific default interface which does not include a traditional taskbar.
[11:13] <blackflow> raidghost: not sure what your'e asking, but you set the ip address (or dhcp "mode") on the bridge, yes, not eth0 (physical device)
[11:13] <guiverc> S_Gautam, it sounds like you want classic-gnome  (standard gnome doesn't have unity-dock; whereich I think you mean dash-to-dock
[11:13] <cactus00000> S_Gautam: not sure where in settings, but it is an option. i do not know as i no longer use gnome. that is all i know! good luck! :)
[11:14] <S_Gautam> guiverc: Yup
[11:14] <raidghost> blackflow: What i asking is: Instead of eth0 as i have set with static ip adress subnet netmask default-gw and stuff. I maybe set the br1 (bridge) instead,. So there would not be a active eth0 but a active br1 (bridge interface)
[11:14] <blackflow> raidghost: yes, that's correct then.
[11:14] <oldtommy_> blackflow: ok, that is a cause. but still not reasonable that it works so awkward now, compared to earlier versions. Where can I post some suggestions concerning usability issues for the ubuntu desktop ? Thanks
[11:14] <guiverc> (i hit enter during edit & hadn't finished), you select classic-gnome at login (instead of ubuntu or really gnome-shell)
[11:15] <Toaderas> Hello
[11:15] <Jonta> Hi
[11:15] <Toaderas> In version 18 with hexchat, why when I get a new message the icon on the left bar isn't highlighted ?
[11:15] <blackflow> oldtommy_: the launchpad I suppose. but eh... don't hold your breath :)
[11:16] <SimonNL> Toaderas: check your preferences in the settings
[11:16] <hans_> how can i debug "the system is booting with / as read-only"  ?
[11:16] <Toaderas> It used to be highlighted before Gnome and that was useful, any way to tweak gnome to enable that ?
[11:17] <Toaderas> SimonNL: Which settings ?
[11:17] <hans_> in this particular case, i think i know why, but just, what is the first thing to check if you have no idea why?
[11:17] <SimonNL> notifications probably
[11:17] <S_Gautam> hm, what was the reason for switching to Unity back to GNOME?
[11:17] <oldtommy_> Ubuntu 18.04: another strange behaviour is: if you are entering some date in a child-window, then if you move it, the parent-window moves with it: so you cannot look at parent window which might contain some information you need to fill out child window entry fields.
[11:17] <Toaderas> There is no relevant option
[11:18] <guiverc> S_Gautam, have a look at this, not sure if this is what i added (gnome-session-flashback), but i forget -- https://www.debugpoint.com/2018/05/how-to-install-classic-gnome-flashback-in-ubuntu-18-04-lts/    (https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/gnome-session-flashback)
[11:18] <SimonNL> highlighted message setting ?
[11:18] <S_Gautam> guiverc: hm, thanks. ill look into it
[11:19] <Toaderas> SimonNL: Pardon ?
[11:20] <SimonNL> https://imgur.com/a/RIrE8US   Toaderas
[11:20] <SeTunTun> hello. My ubuntu 14.04 can't boot.  I did nothing more.
[11:21] <Jonta> SeTunTun: Has it booted before?
[11:21] <Toaderas> I have those on already but you are on mind
[11:21] <Jonta> Ah
[11:21] <Toaderas> mint *
[11:21] <hans_> hmm, and mount / -o remount,rw    gives me: mount: / not mounted or bad option
[11:21] <Toaderas> I am on Ubuntu 18 with Gnome
[11:21] <SeTunTun> Jonta, I worked perfectly before
[11:21] <hans_> nvm, fixed it by doing mount /dev/sda5 / -o remount,rw     instead
[11:22] <SeTunTun> I can access to tty but nothing more.
[11:22] <blackflow> SeTunTun: do you know how to edit the grub menu and disable splash? That way you can see the underlying errors if they're displayed
[11:22] <SimonNL> Toaderas: ok
[11:23] <SeTunTun> more or less, one moment
[11:24] <blackflow> SeTunTun: essentially you hit 'e' at the grub menu to edit the (default, first) selection, then move with cursor keys until you reach the line starting with vmlinuz, then from that line remove 'splash' word, and hit F10 to continue booting that selection
[11:25] <blackflow> SeTunTun: also remove 'quiet' to see any output
[11:26] <Toaderas> can someone send me a random PM please ? I changed something and want to test if I get notifications now
[11:26] <Jonta> Done
[11:40] <SeTunTun> blackflow, sorry "e" doesn't seem to work
[11:42] <blackflow> SeTunTun: 'e' does not edit the grub menu selection?
[11:42] <blackflow> or do you mean, 'e' does not bring up the grub menu itself because yea, it won't. you need to hold the shift key or what was it, for the grub menu to appear. once in it, 'e' should edit the current selection. it also says so on the screen itself.
[11:43] <SeTunTun> yes, taht's it. I am in the grub menu
[11:43] <blackflow> SeTunTun: this one?  https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/grub2-in-ubuntu.jpg
[11:46] <SeTunTun> Ok. I pressed f10 and it stops loading after a lot of letters in a black screen :S
[11:47] <blackflow> SeTunTun: can you provide a screenshot?
[11:48] <SeTunTun> I don't know how can i do it
[11:49] <blackflow> SeTunTun: do you have a smartphone? you can upload it to imgur or an image pastebin
[11:53] <SeTunTun> one minute, I'm doing it
[12:00] <SeTunTun> https://imgur.com/a/eUk4z4z
[12:00] <skinux> Where are backups created using "Backups" stored?
[12:03] <ioria> skinux, what you mean ? deja-dup
[12:04] <ioria> SeTunTun, the url is empty
[12:04] <ioria> SeTunTun, sy,it's ok
[12:05] <blackflow> yeah hit F5. imgur sometimes glitches like that
[12:05] <ioria> SeTunTun, and what's the problem ?
[12:06] <blackflow> SeTunTun: so it looks like a normal systemd startup, at least the part of it shown on screen. My guess is there's a problem with switching to the graphical mode. Maybe KMS... SeTunTun was there a kernel upgrade? See if you can boot into the previous kernel from that grub menu
[12:08] <SeTunTun> I booted from two previous kernels yesterday but no success
[12:08] <ioria> SeTunTun, what's the current in use ? uname -r
[12:11] <SeTunTun> if it helps I have a log posted here:
[12:11] <SeTunTun> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/H6gW2Gqr2m/
[12:12] <ioria> SeTunTun, can't you open a console ?
[12:12] <SeTunTun> yes, I'm rebooting
[12:12] <ioria> SeTunTun, btw, current for trusty is <IP_ADDRESS> ...ù
[12:13] <ioria> SeTunTun, so, it's ok
[12:13] <SeTunTun> 3.13.0-151-generic
[12:13] <sdfgsd> is ther a way to display all chrome tabs as one process in 'top'
[12:13] <skinux> I mean a pre-installed app that is called "Backups" for configurating automatic backups.
[12:13] <ioria> SeTunTun,  are you using nvidia ?ù
[12:14] <blackflow> yes, and I wanted to suggest to try blacklist nvidia from the kernel command line and see if that boots fine
[12:14] <SeTunTun> yes. Noveau didn't work very well with 3d acceleration in blender
[12:14] <tomreyn> sdfgsd: probably not, since they're separate processes. maybe pstree is what you want?
[12:15] <ioria> SeTunTun, sudo service lightdm restart   and tell us what happens
[12:17] <SeTunTun> I hear the ubuntu welcome sound and I see a black screen
[12:18] <ioria> SeTunTun,  install pastebinit  and  run  sudo  lshw -C Video | pastebinit
[12:23] <SeTunTun> here you are
[12:23] <SeTunTun> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/V8gDwxJnZd/
[12:23] <skinux> I used "Backups" to automatically create backups. I've logs stored on DropBox, but cannot find  the actual backup.
[12:23] <Jonta> skinux: Have you looked through the logs?
[12:23] <ioria> skinux, deja-dup-preferences   it will telyou
[12:24] <hans_> the ubuntu 18.04 server ISO grub bootmenu has a default timeout of 3 seconds, defaulting to "install ubuntu" ... that menu should not have a timeout at all
[12:24] <hans_> (the 1 called "ubuntu-18.04-live-server-amd64.iso" )
[12:25] <ioria> SeTunTun,  this did happen after an upgrade ?
[12:25] <SeTunTun> ioria, yes after yesterday's upgrade
[12:26] <ioria> SeTunTun,  with the gui tool or from terminal ?
[12:26] <SeTunTun> gui
[12:27] <ioria> SeTunTun,  try this :  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:27] <SeTunTun> mmm will it upgrade to 16.04 or something similar?
[12:28] <ioria> SeTunTun,  nope
[12:28] <SeTunTun> ok
[12:28] <ioria> SeTunTun, check if it does something or reports nothing to do
[12:30] <tomreyn> hans_: maybe that's a topic for #ubuntu-discuss
[12:31] <SeTunTun> 0 upgraded, 0 installed, 0 will be uninstalled, 0 not upgraded
[12:31] <grass988> Hi.
[12:31] <SeTunTun> Well I translated it to english more or less
[12:31] <grass988> I accidentally removed my Network Icon and everything else from my upper right Ubuntu Mate panel.
[12:31] <grass988> Can you help me get back those icons?
[12:31] <grass988> Bluetooth icon, network icon etc. etc.
[12:31] <EriC^^> grass988: did you try logging out and back in?
[12:32] <grass988> Yes
[12:32] <grass988> I restarted
[12:32] <Jonta> Right clicking on the panel?
[12:32] <grass988> yes, i am right clicking there but when i hit "add to panel" i can't find the icons that i used to have
[12:33] <grass988> can i restore my system to how it was a few boots ago?
[12:33] <ioria> SeTunTun,  ok, you can try to purge nvidia  and see if the issue is there ( sudo apt-get purge nvidia* and reboot)
[12:33] <grass988> or restore defaults?
[12:33] <ioria> SeTunTun,  note the (*)
[12:34] <Jonta> grass988: Is there a control panel there somewhere?
[12:34] <grass988> yes
[12:34] <grass988> i have the control center open
[12:35] <tomreyn> grass988: what you could do is to login as a guest (or a newly added) user and inspect the icons which are presented there, thus (maybe) learning how to restore them on your primary user.
[12:36] <SeTunTun> :o
[12:36] <grass988> tomreyn, but i am looking at "add to panel" and the icons i need aren't listed there
[12:36] <grass988> is there no way to restore the defaults?
[12:36] <SeTunTun> ioria, you are the fu****g boss
[12:36] <ioria> SeTunTun,  does it work ?
[12:37] <SeTunTun> It's alive!!
[12:37] <grass988> i did it!
[12:37] <ioria> SeTunTun,  please,   paste   ubuntu-drivers list | pastebinit
[12:37] <grass988> i went to "interface" and changed to a new interface and now the icons are back.
[12:38] <Jonta> :D
[12:38] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[12:39] <Jonta> 'lo
[12:40] <mojtaba> Hello, I am trying to print using HP LaserJet P1102 in Ubuntu 16.04LTS. The problem is that it does not detect the printer. (It has been connected through usb.) I have ran: sudo apt-get install hplip hplip-gui
[12:40] <mojtaba> and then hp-setup -i -a
[12:40] <grass988> by the way, i have an item in my trash, fruohod, that i can't permanently delete and i can't restore.
[12:40] <grass988> do you know why this might be?
[12:40] <mojtaba> But it says:
[12:40] <mojtaba> No device selected/specified or that supports this functionality.
[12:40] <grass988> fruhod
[12:40] <mojtaba> Any idea?
[12:40] <SeTunTun> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WkTszZxTTb/
[12:40] <Jonta> grass988: Have you checked its properties?
[12:41] <grass988> says i am not the owner so i can't change permissions
[12:41] <grass988> so how do i access the trash as the root user?
[12:42] <ioria> SeTunTun, please highlight the nick of the the person you're talking to; how did you install nvidia ?
[12:42] <Jonta> grass988: Are you familiar with the commandline?
[12:42] <SeTunTun> ioria, Jonta, blackflow and all the channel, I love you all. I hope I 'll be able to help people like you helped me today
[12:42] <grass988> yes. what shall i type?
[12:42] <Jonta> SeTunTun: ^^
[12:43] <Jonta> grass988: Have a look in /home/$USER/.local/share/Trash
[12:43] <ioria> SeTunTun, no problem...  how did you install nvidia ?
[12:43] <ioria> SeTunTun, from terminal, from Additional Driver ?
[12:43] <grass988> well, i'm not very skilled with the command line.
[12:43] <grass988> what do you mean by look there? it says that's a directory when i type that.
[12:44] <Jonta> That's okay
[12:44] <SeTunTun> long time ago... I think it was from synaptic
[12:44] <Jonta> `cd` is the command to change directory
[12:44] <mojtaba> Anyone?
[12:44] <Jonta> So if you type in `cd /home/$USER/.local/share/Trash`, it should take you there
[12:44] <ioria> SeTunTun, type in Dash   ' Additional Driver'
[12:44] <grass988> ok, i'm there now
[12:44] <Jonta> grass988: You can check what directory you're in with `pwd` - print working directory
[12:44] <Jonta> Excellent
[12:45] <Jonta> `ls` to list what's there
[12:45] <grass988> that shows "expunged" "files" "info" in blue text all these
[12:45] <Jonta> Alright
[12:45] <Jonta> `ls -lA`
[12:46] <Jonta> To list them in long form, giving more information. And also hidden ones
[12:46] <grass988> when i type ls files i see the file in question that is in my trash called fruhod
[12:47] <Jonta> Did you try the command above?
[12:47] <grass988> yes, it listed expunged, files, and info
[12:48] <Jonta> Is there a string near the beginning, of rwx- and the like?
[12:48] <grass988> drwx
[12:48] <Jonta> Right
[12:48] <grass988> that's for all those 3
[12:48] <Jonta> d means directory
[12:48] <Jonta> The rest is read, write, and execute
[12:48] <Jonta> 3 times, for 3 different groups of users
[12:49] <Jonta> What's the full string for the file you want to delete?
[12:50] <grass988> fruhod
[12:50] <Jonta> The letters before it
[12:50] <Jonta> drwxrwxrwx
[12:50] <grass988> drwx------
[12:51] <Jonta> Right
[12:51] <Jonta> That means it's only accessible by root
[12:51] <hans_> what's the difference between the "alternative installer" and the normal installer?
[12:51] <Jonta> Which is the first group
[12:52] <Jonta> grass988: Try `sudo rm -rf fruhod`
[12:52] <Jonta> It'll prompt you for a password
[12:52] <Jonta> Type it in, hit enter
[12:52] <grass988> I did that
[12:52] <grass988> but my trash still has that folder in it
[12:52] <littledot> hi
[12:52] <Jonta> littledot: Hi
[12:53] <Jonta> grass988: Then I'd read up on chmod and chown
[12:53] <littledot> is it possible to use the old installer on ubuntu server 18.04 ?
[12:54] <grass988> well i guess i'll just leave it in my trash as it is for now. it's not harming anything.
[12:54] <Guest85763> hello
[12:54] <grass988> i even tried doing sudo nautilus and trying to delete it that way
[12:54] <grass988> and it didn't work
[12:55] <tomreyn> littledot: you can use the alternative installer, which is available from a page linked from the page you downloaded the server live installer from.
[12:55] <Jonta> grass988: :) - I do recommend learning a few basics in the command line. It's much less scary that way
[12:55] <Jonta> grass988: To run GUI-apps with sudo: gksudo nautilus
[12:55] <tomreyn> mojtaba: is the printer currently detected as a cdrom?
[12:55] <Jonta> Guest85763: Hello
[12:55] <tomreyn> mojtaba: https://askubuntu.com/questions/157096/how-to-install-a-driver-for-hp-laserjet-p1102-printer?rq=1
[12:55] <littledot> tnks tomreyn
[12:55] <grass988> jonta, i tried that too, and still it wouldn't delete it.
[12:55] <grass988> do you know why?
[12:55] <Jonta> File permissions
[12:55] <Jonta> You can change them with chmod or chown
[12:55] <Jonta> I don't remember which
[12:55] <mojtaba> tomreyn: I don't know, but it says you need to disable smart install feature.
[12:55] <grass988> but i thought gksudo should give me ultimate power
[12:55] <Guest85763> is it possible nowadays to install a distro to a usb pen with ntfs so you can make the casper file as big as you want without the limitation of 4g of fat32?
[12:56] <mojtaba> I ran hp-doctor. It is now updating the missed packages.
[12:57] <grass988> xrandr --output HDMI2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"
[12:57] <tomreyn> mojtaba: can you run this and tell us the url it returns? lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:57] <grass988> i use this line to make my monitor look bettter. it boosts the colors vs "Automatic"
[12:57] <grass988> however can you tell me if this is causing my computer to use more resources?
[12:58] <mojtaba> tomreyn: just a sec, hp-doctor is running. I will execute that afterwards.
[12:59] <tomreyn> hans_: the alternative *server* installer  is like the old server installer, it's very versatile but not the greatest UX. the server live installer is trying to provide a better UX, but it still lacks a lot of features.
[13:00] <hans_> tomreyn, ok, gotcha
[13:01] <hans_> the 18.04 server installer doesn't recognize any of my partitions, and think the harddrive is completely empty.. (it has like 5 partitions, including a FAT32, NTFS, ext4, and swap partition), any idea why?
[13:02] <mojtaba> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gYZkK54M6H/
[13:03] <hans_> (the disk is an SSD and its GPT-partitioned, if that's significant)
[13:04] <hans_> (running "ubuntu-18.04-live-server-amd64.iso" )
[13:04] <tomreyn> hans_: if you're referring to the default server 'live' installer, this one won't use pre-made partitions, it needs to install to a full disk, partitioning itself.
[13:04] <hans_> .... what the fuck
[13:05] <tomreyn> !wtf
[13:05] <sdfgsd> my keyboard types < instead of backquote, both buttons give me the same keycode, how do I fix this ?
[13:05] <tomreyn> !labguage
[13:05] <hans_> tomreyn, that makes sense for a pre-release version
[13:05] <tomreyn> !language
[13:06] <sdfgsd> please stop the offensive language, this is horrible. My eyes....
[13:06] <sdfgsd> argh
[13:06] <hans_> sorry, what i meant was, "that's surprising, in a bad kind of way"
[13:07] <hans_> does the "alternative server installer" have the same limitation?
[13:07] <sdfgsd> my keyboard types < instead of backquote, both buttons give me the same keycode, how do I fix this ?
[13:08] <tomreyn> mojtaba: can you unplug the printer, plug it in again, then run: dmesg -T | tail -n100 | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:08] <hans_> sdfgsd, try `dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration`,
[13:08] <tomreyn> mojtaba: to usb, that is, not power
[13:09] <mojtaba> tomreyn: Ok.
[13:09] <hans_> sdfgsd, and when you're done, run `service keyboard-setup restart; udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change
[13:09] <hans_> ` - or if that doesn't work, restart (i've been in a sitation where the new keyboard config wouldn't take effect until a hard reboot... x.x )
[13:09] <tomreyn> hans_: no, the alternative server installer doesn't have this limitation
[13:11] <hans_> any idea if they plan on removing that limitation from the "live server installer" or not?
[13:12] <tomreyn> hans_: i dont know, but you can follow its development on github. it's called subiquity.
[13:13] <mojtaba> tomreyn: I am getting this error now: HP LaserJet Professional P1102 CD_ROM_Enabled       Needs to disable Smart Install
[13:13] <mojtaba> tomreyn: Do you know how can I disable it?
[13:20] <JimBuntu> !cookie | tomreyn
[13:23]  * tomreyn munch munch
[13:23] <skinux> I can't find a burn button in CD/DVD Creator
[13:23] <tomreyn> mojtaba: an old bug report at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hplip/+bug/813482 sattes this is fixed in hplip. do you have the hplip package installed?
[13:23] <Jonta> skinux: What about "export" or "write"?
[13:23] <mojtaba> tomreyn: yes
[13:23] <skinux> NOpe
[13:24] <Jonta> Hm. Do you have a CD/DVD in the machine right now?
[13:24] <tomreyn> mojtaba: oh that's just upstream hplip apparently. hmm. well i guess you can try this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hplip/+bug/813482/comments/23
[13:24] <skinux> Yes
[13:27] <mojtaba> tomreyn: I ran hp-setup -g, but it says the cert is corrupted and it cannot validate it.
[13:28] <mojtaba> tomreyn: I didn't quite get the second link.
[13:28] <mojtaba> tomreyn: I don't have usbmodeswitch installed.
[13:29] <sonicwind> skinux - read this link - https://askubuntu.com/questions/186065/how-to-burn-cd-with-the-cd-dvd-creator
[13:29] <sonicwind> incredible that such a problem is common for a cd/dvd creator program... unreal
[13:29] <sonicwind> you aren't the only one
[13:30] <tomreyn> mojtaba: to install usb-modeswitch: sudo apt install usb-modeswitch
[13:30] <tomreyn> mojtaba: can you show the "hp-setup -g" output?
[13:31] <tomreyn> !paste
[13:31] <mojtaba> tomreyn: It opens a gui. after asking to disable the smart install, this pops up:   p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  Digital signature verification failed for the file /tmp/tmp3mbafeie. File may have been corrupted or altered
[13:32] <tomreyn> hmm yes this sounds buggy. you can run the whole thing froma temrinal window. this would probably provide more output
[13:32] <mojtaba> tomreyn: should I run hp-setup -g | pastebinit ?
[13:33] <tomreyn> mojtaba: hp-setup -g 2>&1 | pastebinit
[13:33] <tomreyn> this will make sure we get both standard output but also warnings and errors
[13:35] <mojtaba> tomreyn: Failed to contact the server: [Errno socket error] The write operation timed out
[13:35] <mojtaba> just a sec, I run it again.
[13:36] <tomreyn> mojtabasingle lines of output without further context are not too helpful
[13:37] <mojtaba> tomreyn: any other services beside pastebinit. It seems it gives me the same error.
[13:38] <tomreyn> mojtaba: hp-setup -g 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:43] <mojtaba> tomreyn: It doesn't work!
[13:43] <mojtaba> tomreyn: It just hang.
[13:46] <tomreyn> mojtaba: okay. maybe try purging the hplip package and (only then) try the one from hp https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/install
[13:46] <mojtaba> tomreyn: what should I do?
[13:47] <mojtaba> should I run apt-get --purge hplip ?
[13:47] <tomreyn> sudo apt purge hplip
[13:48] <DualBootLinux_> I'm thinking of Dual Booting between Windows 10 on my SSD and Ubuntu 18.04 on another HDD. The Ubuntu HDD though, I'm already using for Windows 10 programs (1 TB Storage Drive S:). Would it be possible for me to create a parition on S: to install Ubuntu to, maybe 100 GB?
[13:49] <EriC^^> DualBootLinux_: sure, you can shrink the windows partition and use the space to install ubunti
[13:51] <Toaderas> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1041232/no-badge-notification-in-ubuntu-18-04
[13:51] <Toaderas> Any workarounds ?
[13:52] <DualBootLinux_> How do I shrink the Windows Partition?
[13:52] <tomreyn> DualBootLinux_: in my experience, people who spend (sometimes much) time on creating / maintaining a dual boot setup quickly end up using only one of the two OS installations. have you considered to just use ubuntu as the main installation and run the other OS in a VM?
[13:53] <EriC^^> DualBootLinux_: boot into windows go to disk management, click on volume and shrink it, you might need to defrag it first if it says cant be shrinked
[13:53] <Toaderas> tomreyn: that may be true but having a Windows partition just in case doesn't really hurt
[13:54] <tomreyn> Toaderas: doesn't hurt, but can get messy, such as when windows upgrades and decides that there can only be one queen in this kingdom.
[13:54] <Toaderas> tomreyn: those cases seem nasty indeed
[13:55] <Toaderas> tomreyn: do you happen to know why there are no badge notifications in 18.04 ?
[13:56] <tomreyn> Toaderas: not really, no. :-/
[13:59] <Toaderas> this is really annoying and I don't get it
[14:09] <cenysor> Hi. I installed Xubuntu 16.04 LTS. After I updated the graphical software manager I can not open it again. What can cause this problem?
[14:15] <Nebi_> Hi, I have two weird issues since about a week and cannot explain them (might be linked?). I did absolutely nothing changing the system (not even update). One issue is that sound in Ubuntu maybe 50% of the time (I mean starting computer) doesnt work. And the other issue is that ubuntu does in about half of the cases not shutdown properly anymore. Anyone has an idea?
[14:26] <EriC^^> cenysor: try starting it from the terminal in case it shows any errors
[14:27] <EriC^^> "gnome-software"
[14:30] <cenysor> EriC^^, the command does not finish, no error text is displayed
[14:31] <EriC^^> what do you mean by does not finish?
[14:31] <EriC^^> it just hangs no output, no prompt?
[14:31] <cenysor> yes
[14:45] <qwebirc74165> what are bionic-updates and bionic-backports? how they differ from bionic-security?
[15:04] <xjkx> When I right click my desktop, I should get openbox menu, but I'm getting gnome's, because I ran some gnome application that called this interface, but I cant get rid of it, what should I kill, gnome-what?
[15:05] <EriC^^> qwebirc74165: https://askubuntu.com/questions/401941/what-is-the-difference-between-security-updates-proposed-and-backports-in-etc
[15:06] <xjkx> I found this "/usr/lib/at-spi2-core/at-spi2-registryd --use-gnome-session" I guess I should kill it?
[15:09] <oerheks> :-)
[15:14] <qwebirc74165> how can I view what updates are recently installed?
[15:16] <Rojola> hello!
[15:16] <user_224> hi
[15:16] <Rojola> I just ran the following command:
[15:16] <Rojola> sudo aptitude purge openjdk-8-jre openjdk-8-jre-headless openjdk-11-jre-headless openjdk-11-jre openjdk-11-jdk
[15:16] <oerheks> qwebirc74165, check the /var/log/dpkg.log
[15:17] <Rojola> My question:  How can I remove the jdk's ?
[15:17] <Rojola> In /usr/lib/jvm I still have:  java-11-openjdk-amd64  java-8-openjdk-amd64  java-8-oracle
[15:17] <oerheks> try purge java*
[15:19] <Rojola> oerheks, Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "java*"
[15:20] <Rojola> not even *java* works
[15:21] <Thedarkb> For some reason, this and ##linux are the only channels I can join.
[15:22] <Thedarkb> and as soon as I join, I time out.
[15:22] <Jonta> Thedarkb: What happens when you join e.g. #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[15:25] <Rojola> is it possible, that the directories in /usr/lib/jvm are only remains of the install?
[15:26] <oerheks> Rojola, maybe you need to logout/login to get a clear view, that  ~/java-8-openjdk-amd64/ seems just a folder..
[15:26] <Rojola> I ran "aptitude search openjdk" and found all the versions I had previously installed marked with a "p" rather than "i"
[15:26] <Rojola> oerheks, what would logging in / logging out do to the content of /usr/lib/jvm ?
[15:26] <Rojola> interesting...
[15:26] <Rojola> I uninstalled "icedtea"
[15:26] <Rojola> now the openjdk 8 folder is gone
[15:27] <Rojola> openjdk 11 is still there
[15:27] <oerheks> maybe still in use by your browser, dunno, logout/login and see?
[15:27] <Nordo> hi everyone
[15:27] <Rojola> oerheks, ok I try it
[15:27] <Rojola> brb
[15:28] <Jonta> Nordo: Hi
[15:28] <Nordo> jonta, if you still think that im still trying to install ubuntu, then nevermind, i installed it
[15:28] <Jonta> Yeah? How's it working for you? :)
[15:28] <Nordo> its nice
[15:29] <Nordo> im still trying it
[15:29] <Nordo> oh btw, is there some lighter desktop enviroments, which are similiar to Windows style?
[15:29] <Jonta> LXDE
[15:30] <Nordo> btw, do enviroments change the compatibilty between different software?
[15:30] <user_224> I'm running lubuntu, which is pretty nice, except the headphone jack output isn't there in pulseaudio
[15:30] <oerheks> if it looks like windows, we get a lawsuit within 24 hrs
[15:30] <Nordo> lol haha
[15:30] <Nordo> not really like it
[15:30] <Nordo> but similiar in some things, like the start button and so
[15:30] <Nordo> how do i get LXDE?
[15:31] <Nordo> via terminal huh?
[15:31] <Jonta> Sure thing
[15:31] <oerheks> via softwarecenter
[15:31] <hans_> every time before the system attempts a reboot, i need it to open a tcp connection, and send a constant pre-designed package to a certain ip address
[15:31] <Nordo> could someone give me the repo?
[15:31] <EriC^^> Nordo: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[15:31] <hans_> (constant ip address, even)
[15:32] <hans_> where's the best place to insert a script to do that?
[15:32] <Nordo> so its lubuntu's enviroment
[15:32] <Nordo> noice
[15:32] <coldnine`> Hello, I have an ubuntu-server 14.04 machine. I connected a WesternDigital external USB drive to it, and though I can see it in dmesg and lsusb, I cannot see it under lsblk and therefore cannot use it, anyone have any idea why?
[15:33] <Rojola> I am back
[15:33] <EriC^^> coldnine`: can you pastebin anything related to it in dmesg?
[15:33] <Nordo> um for some reason, i cant insert any number/charcters to the sudo type password
[15:33] <Rojola> so, even rebooting did not delete my java directory.  However, there is not much of a content in there:
[15:33] <Rojola> https://dpaste.de/GmJA/raw
[15:33] <strive> Nordo: Why not?
[15:33] <Jonta> Nordo: You can, they're just not visible
[15:33] <Nordo> wait really?
[15:33] <Nordo> lol
[15:33] <Nordo> so much security
[15:34] <Nordo> thats really nice
[15:34] <Jonta> Otherwise, people seeing your screen can see that your password's only 3 characters, which is embarrassing
[15:34] <strive> Nordo: You'll get the prompt, but you won't see it.
[15:34] <Rojola> oerheks, that's a bug!!   https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=897411
[15:34] <Nordo> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:34] <oerheks> but you removed 11... not 10
[15:34] <Nordo> i get that error
[15:34] <Jonta> Close software center
[15:35] <strive> Nordo: dpkg is being run in the background (probably gathering updates automatically).
[15:35] <Nordo> it isnt opened
[15:35] <strive> Run 'top' in terminal.
[15:35] <Nordo> strive: so what would i do?
[15:35] <Jonta> Are you installing from somewhere else?
[15:35] <coldnine`> EriC^^: here is the output of lsusb and dmesg related: https://pastebin.com/raw/f1DHBvgh
[15:35] <strive> You may see something that says, 'http' or something.
[15:35] <Nordo> run what?
[15:35] <Jonta> `top`
[15:36] <Nordo> im new to ubuntu, so dont expect me to know everything you say
[15:36] <coldnine`> EriC^^: it does not appear under /dev/* and lsblk
[15:36] <Nordo> how?
[15:36] <Jonta> New terminal(tab)
[15:36] <Jonta> Type in `top`
[15:36] <Jonta> Hit enter
[15:36] <oerheks> Jonta, Nordo, likely there are unattended updates pending, hit the update button
[15:36] <strive> coldnine`: Does 'fdisk -l' display the drive?
[15:36] <strive> afk.
[15:36] <Nordo> oerheks: sorry, um how do i update again?
[15:37] <coldnine`> strive: nope, only the main hard drive which contains the rootfs
[15:37] <oerheks> Nordo,  go find it in your menu
[15:37] <Nordo> oh wait i saw that there is an update for ubuntu, it told me to update but i clicked remind me later
[15:37] <Jonta> Oh Windows-users :p
[15:37] <Nordo> windows users, haha
[15:38] <Jonta> ^^
[15:38] <Nordo> its really nice that linux doesnt start updating without your permission, unlike Spyware 10
[15:38] <Nordo> spydows 10 :)
[15:38] <lui89> hello!
[15:38] <Jonta> Hi
[15:39] <Nordo> hi lui89
[15:39] <Jonta> Mhm. It was one of the reasons I stayed with Linux. Coming back to Windows is… annoying
[15:40] <Nordo> the worst thing about linux is, well, compatibility with games
[15:40] <coldnine`> strive, EriC^^: I connected it to my ArchLinux main PC and it worked just fine
[15:40] <Jonta> Depends on the user
[15:41] <coldnine`> strive: EriC^^: I modeprobe'd usb-storage and usb_storage with no help. Connecting a Sandisk flash drive works on the Ubuntu machine, but connecting the WD external drive does not
[15:43] <oerheks> coldnine`, is this an usb3 port? you can tell if it has a blue connection
[15:44] <coldnine`> oerheks: i think there are only usb 2.0 ports on this server
[15:44] <Nordo> maybe he has a USB 2 port and his HDD is 3
[15:44] <Nordo> yep
[15:45] <coldnine`> Nordo: it does say USB3.0 on the instructions manual, what can I do in such a situtation?
[15:50] <Nordo> er
[15:50] <Nordo> firefox crashed
[15:50] <Jonta> :(
[15:50] <Jonta> You put on its seatbelt, right?
[15:51] <Nordo> HA, unfunny joke
[15:51] <Nordo> nah its funny
[15:51] <Nordo> lemme restart for update
[15:55] <Nordo_> updated
[15:55] <Nordo_> what was the repo for XLDE again?
[15:55] <oerheks> we never told you about a repo
[15:56] <Nordo_> i meant the command for installing, isnt that the same as repo?
[15:56] <Jonta> LXDE
[15:56] <oerheks> no, it is just a meta-package.
[15:56] <Jonta> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[15:57] <Nordo_> just that?
[15:57] <Jonta> Yup
[15:58] <Nordo_> downloading :)
[15:58] <ioria> Nordo_, it's a meta-package ; it calls other packages to install
[15:58] <oerheks> and join #lubuntu
[15:58] <Nordo_> im not on lubuntu
[15:58] <Nordo_> i just want the enviroment
[15:59] <ioria> Nordo_,  you can switch to that from the login screen
[15:59] <Nordo_> sure :)
[16:00] <Nordo_> just a question, how to add time delay when booting in order to boot directly into windows instead of GRUB being shown?
[16:00] <Nordo_> so i press a key to boot into ubuntu
[16:00] <oerheks> !gub
[16:00] <oerheks> !grub
[16:01] <oerheks> see the manual
[16:01] <Nordo_> no i havent lost grub
[16:01] <ioria> Nordo_, dual booting ?
[16:02] <oerheks> it might say something about grub customizer https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer
[16:05] <EriC^^> Nordo_: type "grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999"
[16:06] <Nordo_> has any of the IRC managers considered gettings something better than IRC? the text is so small, i like discord the most
[16:07] <coldnine`> Nordo_: don't use web irc, you can manipulate the whole ui to your will with most clients
[16:07] <Nordo_> https://imgur.com/a/fdaLQZH
[16:08] <Nordo_> im getting this
[16:08] <Nordo_> also
[16:08] <Nordo_> what are the best clients?
[16:08] <coldnine`> I use Emacs' ERC, you can use irssi and weechat, they're the most popular ones
[16:08] <tomreyn> a comoonly used one is hexchat, but there are many others.
[16:08] <oerheks> so you ask about irc text, an error, and about "the best client"
[16:09] <Nordo_> lol, yes
[16:09] <lui89> there is polari for gnome.
[16:10] <Nordo_> what is polari
[16:10] <lui89> an irc client.
[16:10] <Nordo_> oh
[16:10] <Nordo_> well
[16:10] <Jonta> irssi is the best
[16:10] <oerheks> really, take time to investigate yourself
[16:10] <Nordo_> well i will try both and see
[16:10] <Nordo_> btw
[16:10] <Jonta> There we go, I'm the only one who claims a client to be the best
[16:10] <Nordo_> now terminal is telling me to choose default display manager
[16:10] <Nordo_> which one?
[16:11] <lui89> not gdm i guess.
[16:11] <Nordo_> so lightdm?
[16:23] <Nordo_> installing xlde has taken years
[16:23] <Nordo_> lxde*
[16:24] <Jonta> Nordo_: Slow machine?
[16:24] <compdoc> I bet I can install it in less than an hour
[16:24] <Nordo_> i3. 3gbs, is that too slow?
[16:24] <Jonta> You can time how long something takes with… `time` - Try `time ls`
[16:25] <Jonta> Not too slow
[16:25] <Nordo_> can i type that while installing
[16:25] <Jonta> But I understand wanting a different DE
[16:25] <Jonta> Just use a different tab or window
[16:25] <Nordo_> woah it actually finished
[16:25] <Nordo_> lol
[16:26] <coldnine`> Hey I connected my WD external usb storage (2tb) to my ubuntu server machine, and it is not recognized to the lsblk command. there's the last line of output on dmesg i got for it: "sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Spinning up disk......not responding...", anyone know why?
[16:27] <coldnine`> It says usb 3.0 and i'm connecting it to usb 2.0, but it works on a windows pc for usb 2.0, and it should have hackwards compatability with usb 2.0
[16:27] <Nordo> so how to switch to lxde?
[16:27] <Jonta> Log out
[16:28] <Nordo> yeah?
[16:28] <Jonta> Should be a place there to select it
[16:28] <tomreyn> there should be a little cogwheel showing up after selecting / typing the user name
[16:30] <tomreyn> coldnine`: try connecting it to a different usb connector, and try removing any non-required usb devices.
[16:30] <nordo__> there is an option with two options: Ubuntu, and ubuntu on wayland
[16:30] <coldnine`> tomreyn: same result
[16:31] <tomreyn> coldnine`: which WD product is this exactly?
[16:32] <coldnine`> tomreyn: WD Elements 2TB
[16:32] <tomreyn> coldnine`: what kind of connector is there on the enclosure?
[16:32] <nordo__> i cant find lxde anywhere
[16:33] <nordo__> maybe its 3.0 and he has got a 2.0 port
[16:33] <nordo__> thats why its not working
[16:33] <tomreyn> coldnine`: i'm wondering whether it's this issue (see the photos on the linked post there) http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/296214-32-minidrive-spinning-disk-responding
[16:34] <coldnine`> tomreyn: the drive works on other linux machines (archlinux) and on my windows pc, i don't think the drive is failing
[16:35] <tomreyn> coldnine`: i didnt suggest the drive was failing
[16:35] <Jonta> nordo__: Did you try the one you hadn't tried before?
[16:36] <nordo__> um no
[16:36] <coldnine`> tomreyn: oh hmm the first line in the first post suggests a drive failure
[16:36] <nordo__> woah
[16:36] <nordo__> oh i wish its not that what happend to ur hdd
[16:37] <nordo__> that would be huge pain tho
[16:37] <coldnine`> tomreyn: and there's only one connector from usb to the weird port the drive has
[16:38] <tomreyn> coldnine`: so yours has a weird port, too?
[16:39] <nordo__> cant u just capture the goddamn port and connector?
[16:39] <Jonta> !language
[16:40] <tomreyn> coldnine`: yours -> your drive. i'm wondering whether these drives have proprioetary ports and speaking a protocol which conforms to neither IDE nor SATA.
[16:40] <tomreyn> (and is thus only supported on windows with proprietary drivers)
[16:41] <kierrin> 0.0
[16:42] <kierrin> 刚用ubuntu,请问这是什么东西阿
[16:43] <tomreyn> !cn | kierrin
[16:43] <nordo__> sorry
[16:43] <kierrin> 0.0
[16:43] <nordo__> jonta, i cant find lxde anywhere
[16:43] <Jonta> Weird
[16:43] <Jonta> Hmm
[16:43] <Jonta> `man lxde`
[16:44] <coldnine`> tomreyn: I don't think its a prop port as I have seen it before, but it connects to my ubuntu machine through a USB port, the instructions manual suggests either usb2.0/3.0 is fine, so i think the problem is no with the connector. (also the drives connects successfuly to my archlinux machine and not only to my windows machine)
[16:45] <nordo__> i chose lightdm
[16:45] <nordo__> when selecting default manager
[16:45] <nordo__> anyways
[16:45] <lui89> uhh lightdm is the login screen
[16:45] <tomreyn> coldnine`: is your arch linux machine a different computer, though?
[16:45] <nordo__> ima try restarting
[16:45] <nordo__> ik
[16:46] <tomreyn> !enter | nordo__
[16:47] <coldnine`> tomreyn: yes
[16:47] <coldnine`> tomreyn: this ubuntu machine is a one-board pc running ubuntu server 14.04
[16:48] <tomreyn> coldnine`: oh, well, that's getting old. are you on a hwe kernel there?
[16:49] <coldnine`> hwe kernel? what's that? and i guess it is old, i have upgraded it in years
[16:49] <coldnine`> its an armhf machine
[16:49] <tomreyn> !hwe
[16:50] <nordo> yep
[16:50] <nordo> LXDE IS RUNNinggg
[16:50] <nordo> i only had to restart
[16:50] <coldnine`> tomreyn: so i should just update some packages and that would update my kernel?
[16:52] <Jonta> nordo: Nice. How's the performance compared to the default?
[16:52] <tomreyn> coldnine`: if you're currently running the 14.04 GA kernel then I would suggest giving the latest HWE kernel a try, since this will be a lot newer and may provide better support for usb 3.0 devices on usb 2.0 ports.
[16:52] <nordo> its better
[16:52] <Jonta> Try awesome wm if you want something even more minimal
[16:52] <tomreyn> coldnine`: this is just a theory, it may not work at all. but worth a try.
[16:53] <nordo> no no its good
[16:53] <nordo> but, it seems that backgrounds arent working
[16:54] <kierrin> what's the time?
[16:54] <tomreyn> coldnine`: and to asnwer your specific question (as it's also discussed in the document ubottu pointed you to): yes and yes.
[16:54] <tomreyn> kierrin: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[16:55] <kierrin> no
[16:55] <tomreyn> kierrin: then please chat elsewhere, thanks.
[16:55] <nordo> why i cant change that black background
[16:56] <kierrin> OK ,0.0
[16:57] <ioria> nordo, black background ?
[16:57] <nordo> yes
[16:57] <ioria> nordo, on lubuntu ?
[16:58] <nordo>  im on ubuntu with lxde evnviroment
[16:58] <ioria> nordo, yes,i mean that ... do yo usee the system tray at bottom ?
[16:58] <ioria> *see
[16:58] <nordo> yes
[16:59] <ioria> nordo, Desktop Preferences
[17:00] <nordo> thanks
[17:01] <ioria> ok
[17:05] <kierrin> Sorry!In fact,I am a noob,and even I  don't know what the Hexchat is (Now ,I know).Though I have a lot of questions ,I am not able to express myself .I'm not an English speaker.
[17:06] <Jonta> kierrin: That's okay. Did you get help in the Chinese channel?
[17:07] <kierrin> There is just 73 online
[17:07] <kierrin> And nobody chat
[17:08] <kierrin> Oh no ,I think I should study English well at first
[17:09] <Bashing-om> kierrin: So long as you are trying, we will try to help . If your command of the English language is up to it .
[17:09] <tomreyn> kierrin: so far, you english is fine. i would say, just give it a try.
[17:11] <Jonta> kierrin: Biggest question?
[17:11] <kierrin> Thank you!I have found a translation software
[17:14] <kierrin> The biggest gain was that I found a good place to communicate.If I have question I will come back .Thank you! I have found The solution to the problem ,in CSDN
[17:15] <tomreyn> kierrin: Also try to ask an actual support question in #ubuntu-cn. According to https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/latest/%23ubuntu-cn.html you asked only whether someone is around. Often, people will not answer to such questions.
[17:16] <tomreyn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSDN
[17:16] <kierrin> ok ,the next time ,I won't say anything useless next time
[17:17] <tomreyn> kierrin: ;-) I mean: Just ask an Ubuntu supoport question htere, and maybe then someone will respond. You are also welcome here, though.
[17:18] <kierrin> I am glad to meet all of you !
[17:20] <tomreyn> thanka. 祝你今天愉快！
[17:20] <tomreyn> *thanks.
[17:26] <TabMasher> Hi all.  I need some software to burn Blu-ray disks.  Can anyone recommend any good software for burning Bluray disks for linux?  Ubuntu in particular.
[17:26] <lnxslck> TabMasher: K3B ?
[17:31] <TabMasher> lnxslck: I was thinking of trying that, it's already installed, but have you burned any blu-ray disks successfully?  Or just taking a guess at it?  :)
[17:32] <lnxslck> taking a guess
[17:32] <lnxslck> k3b is one of the most complete burning tools
[17:32] <TabMasher> lnxslck: Fair enough.  I'll give it a try.
[17:32] <TabMasher> thank you for the suggestion.
[17:32] <RandomGuestPerso> hello. I just installed 18.04 and remove Network Manager as in prior installations (unpredictable/gets in the way). Unfortunately my network interface (wired) is disable on startup. Any idea how to fix it?
[17:33] <lnxslck> RandomGuestPerso: enable it through the config file
[17:33] <fructose> After an upgrade, my system no longer starts. It just hangs before it would normally display the login screen. How do I fix that?
[17:34] <Jonta> fructose: What upgrade?
[17:34] <RandomGuestPerso> lnxslck: is this still /etc/network/interfaces, or do I have to touch netplan now?
[17:35] <fructose> Jonta: A Xenial upgrade? I didn't examine it in detail. Can I find detail somehow?
[17:36] <usr123> Hello, trying overthewire : http://overthewire.org/wargames/bandit/bandit13.html. I already tried xxd -r -p which gives unreadable data. Just hints no solutions please
[17:37] <Jonta> fructose: From what version to what version
[17:37] <fructose> Jonta: Yes, how do I find that?
[17:38] <blackflow> RandomGuestPerso: it's netplan by default, and, by default, on desktop it configures NM. If you don't want NM, you can configure netplan to use networkd, or just use networkd directly (by removing any config from /etc/netplan/). ifupdown is still available, but deprecated and no longer recommended.
[17:38] <Jonta> fructose: Hrm, you don't remember which version you ran?
[17:38] <fructose> Jonta: As I said, I did not look in detail.
[17:39] <Jonta> Hrmm. How did you upgrade? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[17:39] <lui89> usr123, man ssh.
[17:39] <usr123> lui89: huh?
[17:40] <fructose> Jonta: sudo apt update && sudo apt -f install && sudo apt full-upgrade
[17:40] <lui89> usr123, i looked at the solution on the web, you should read the ssh manual.
[17:40] <Jonta> fructose: What hardware are you running?
[17:41] <fructose> Jonta: It's a computer with lots of hardware, can you be more specific?
[17:41] <usr123> lui89: Why the ssh manual, I already logged into the server
[17:41] <RandomGuestPerso> blackflow: ok, thanks for the info. I gotta run now but will look into netplan later and try to use that. bye!
[17:42] <Jonta> fructose: Be more general first. Laptop, desktop, server, other?
[17:43] <fructose> Jonta: Perhaps if you explained why that was relevant, we could get to the important details more quickly?
[17:43] <lui89> usr123, i can't give more info, or I'll spoil it.
[17:43] <usr123> lui89: Thanks anyways
[17:44] <Jonta> fructose: Trying to gather the information possible, since the most relevant seeming seems to be missing
[17:44] <lui89> usr123, lmao i read the wrong level. sorry
[17:45] <usr123> lui89: Yeah, its level13. No issues :D
[17:45] <fructose> Jonta: There is a lot of relevant information. I don't think whether or not the system is a laptop or desktop is at all relevant.
[17:46] <blackflow> fructose: can you ctrl+alt+F2 (for example F2) to another tty?
[17:46] <fructose> blackflow: Yes
[17:47] <blackflow> fructose: and when you login can you check the xorg log and journal, for clues?
[17:49] <fructose> blackflow: I can look if you want to point me to the right places. I was given messages to check systemctl status gpu-manager.service and systemctl status lightdm.service...
[17:50] <fructose> blackflow: In the gpu-manager.service case, it gives an error message like so: Failed to start Detect the available GPUs
[17:50] <ioria> fructose, you can find upgrade details in  /var/log/apt/history.log
[17:50] <fructose> blackflow: The rest is cut off and not visible, but searches suggest the full message is: Failed to start Detect the available GPUs and deal with any system changes
[17:52] <HelpANoobPlease> Hello. I am thinking about installing ubuntu since it's free. However, in case I don't like it, how easy is it possible to restore my computer to blank state with no bootloader or uefi issues?
[17:52] <fructose> ioria: There is definitely information about installed packages in there
[17:52] <blackflow> fructose: any hints in /var/log/gpu-manager.log?
[17:53] <ioria> fructose, check the tail
[17:53] <Jonta> HelpANoobPlease: You can try a Live-USB first, which doesn't need to change your system at all
[17:54] <lui89> usr123, I have read a solution, here is your hint: it's a hexdump and you should revert it to a file. have fun!
[17:54] <fructose> blackflow: Error: can't access /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:02.0/driver; The device is not bound to any driver. Skipping...; Error : Failed to open /dev/dri; (last error repeats 3 more times)
[17:54] <HelpANoobPlease> Jonta: That's what I am using right now. But I need a permanent solution
[17:54] <blackflow> fructose: right, so gpu driver issues. which gpu is it?
[17:55] <fructose> blackflow: Software... VirtualBox VM
[17:55] <Jonta> HelpANoobPlease: Considered dualbooting?
[17:55] <Avanthas> HelpANoobPlease: I'd recommend dual-boot
[17:55] <HelpANoobPlease> Jonta: No. Can't afford windows and I am afraid of the pirated versions
[17:56] <blackflow> fructose: ah, I suppose you just have to rebuild the vbox guest additions. You installed those before, right?
[17:57] <Jonta> HelpANoobPlease: What are you using now then?
[17:57] <Bashing-om> fructose: blackflow : Pastebin ' sudo lshw -C display ' we see what the hardware is and IF a driver is loaded .
[17:57] <HelpANoobPlease> Jonta: A bootable Ubuntu USB on a blank computer
[17:57] <Jonta> HelpANoobPlease: Then why don't you just install? :)
[17:58] <fructose> blackflow: Sounds right, though I don't remember "building" anything. How do I rebuild them?
[17:58] <Jonta> HelpANoobPlease: Ah, bootloader etc
[17:58] <Jonta> HelpANoobPlease: Shouldn't be a problem
[17:59] <HelpANoobPlease> Jonta: Is there any article I can read on bootloading that'll help me understand my issue better?
[17:59] <Jonta> !bootloader
[17:59] <blackflow> fructose: well frankly, I don't know. I see there are many related packages now, I don't know whether you should use those, or mount the additions iso and build from source. I haven't touched VBox in many orbits...
[17:59] <lui89> !grub
[18:00] <blackflow> fructose: do you have any installed?   dpkg -l | grep virtualbox
[18:00] <xjkx> I have ubuntu, running virtualbox (also ubuntu, guest/host), I really cant use shared folder, I did everything, like add my user to vboxsf group, added from virtualbox to automount, but nothing happens in /media. I ran the guests cd install, but nothing
[18:00] <HelpANoobPlease> Jonta: If I uninstall Ubuntu, would GRUB remain there or be replaced with Windows boot?
[18:01] <xjkx> Ops, I meant I installed vboxaddictions
[18:01] <Jonta> HelpANoobPlease: There's no way for Windows boot to get on there, without you installing it
[18:01] <HelpANoobPlease> Thanks
[18:01] <fructose> blackflow: Yes, three... doing purge/install now
[18:02] <blackflow> fructose: which ones, any -dkms?
[18:02] <fructose> blackflow: Yes, -dkms, -utils, and -x11
[18:02] <blackflow> fructose: that's probably your problem then. (re)installing the -dkms one might fix this
[18:03] <fructose> blackflow: Doesn't seem like it...
[18:04] <fructose> blackflow: Yeah, just a black screen until I boot into recovery mode, then I get the same errors.
[18:05] <fructose> blackflow: Also, at one point I was able to do startx as root and that worked fine... just screwed up config files
[18:05] <blackflow> fructose: can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[18:06] <ioria> fructose,  if you used startx with sudo i'd check  the ~/.Xauthority  permissions
[18:06] <blackflow> ioria: wouldn't ~ be /root/ in that case?
[18:07] <fructose> ioria: That's the config file screwup I mentioned... I reset that file
[18:07] <ioria> blackflow, did he log in as 'root' ?
[18:08] <ioria> fructose,  that's good,it's ok now ?
[18:08] <fructose> ioria: No, this problem preceded that.
[18:08] <blackflow> ioria: good point, sudo won't change $HOME without -i
[18:08] <blackflow> fructose: can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[18:08] <fructose> blackflow: No easily, but looking into it
[18:09] <blackflow> fructose: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999     and paste the URL you get, here
[18:10] <Iarfen> hi!
[18:10] <Iarfen> is there something similar to OneDrive inside Linux?
[18:10] <Jonta> Iarfen: There are a few options. What are your requirements?
[18:10] <fructose> blackflow: Neat. http://termbin.com/eiby
[18:10] <Iarfen> Jonta: well, what I need is to have a folder (with subfolders, of course) inside the cloud
[18:11] <blackflow> !info onedrive
[18:11] <Iarfen> good
[18:11] <ioria> fructose,  that's from recovery,not sure very useful
[18:11] <ioria> but it could
[18:12] <blackflow> fructose: "Warning, couldn't open module vboxvideo"
[18:12] <blackflow> fructose: now you'll have to figure out which one of those packages deals with the vboxvideo driver
[18:15] <fructose> blackflow: Yeah, I've Googled that error a bit, but nothing to confirm it's the issue. And I reinstalled those packages, if I'm not mistaken.
[18:16] <blackflow> fructose: how though? can you try   apt install --reinstall virtualbox-guest-dkms ?
[18:16] <blackflow> fructose: you had that one, right?   or virtualbox-guest-dkms-hwe  ?
[18:17] <fructose> blackflow: Yep. I did purge/install, but I'll try --reinstall
[18:19] <fructose> blackflow: Same thing
[18:20] <blackflow> fructose: i'm out of ideas then. maybe remove all those virtualbox-guest-* packages, the VM should work without the virtualbox video driver, and having them installed could be causing problems with fallback
[18:21] <blackflow> fructose: if I were you, actually, I'd try guest additions the old way. mount the ISO and run the build.
[18:22] <fructose> blackflow: Yeah, that's what I'm trying now. Otherwise I'll probably just do a fresh install.
[18:25] <ubuntu_newb> Hi everyone! Does anyone know if the initrd.img file is suppose to have cryptsetup if you have an encrypted disk?
[18:27] <blackflow> ubuntu_newb: yeah, for LUKS
[18:29] <ubuntu_newb> should in not populate automatically on `update-initramfs`? It doesn't seem to be working for me.
[18:30] <fructose> blackflow: No luck. Oh well, thanks for the new pastebin trick
[18:30] <blackflow> ubuntu_newb: yes but I think it depends on /etc/crypttab existing and being configured.
[18:30] <blackflow> fructose: no luck which part, building additions from the ISO?
[18:30] <fructose> blackflow: Installed, restarted, same issue
[18:31] <blackflow> fructose: which kernel is that, btw
[18:31] <acu> Hey I'm running ubuntu 18.04 server with a Gnome desktop and it doesn't let me turn on screen sharing because it lists "No networks selected for sharing" even though I have an internet connection. What should I do?
[18:31] <fructose> blackflow: 4.4.2? I'm giving up for now.
[18:32] <acu> I'm using netplan to configure my network
[18:32] <fructose> blackflow: Anyhow, thanks again!
[18:33] <ubuntu_newb> blackflow: In my case it is configured but when I run `update-initramfs` i get is "cryptsetup: WARNING: invalid line in /etc/crypttab for luks-ff8019d4-2dec-43d3-9f1f-ddf329a188e4 -" the line it refers to is "sda3_crypt UUID=ff8019d4-2dec-43d3-9f1f-ddf329a188e4 none luks,discard". seems to be right (and worked for mebefore).)
[18:35] <qwert> hello
[18:35] <blackflow> ubuntu_newb: seems correct, syntax-wise. does UUID=ff80...     partition exist?
[18:35] <ubuntu_newb> yes
[18:36] <blackflow> ubuntu_newb: is that the only content of crypttab? nothing else? no extraneous hidden control chars or something?
[18:36] <qwert> how do i analyze the var sys log? my drive suddenly got no space,16.04 is just a week old
[18:37] <ubuntu_newb> blkid output (trimed): /dev/sda3: UUID="ff8019d4-2dec-43d3-9f1f-ddf329a188e4" TYPE="crypto_LUKS" PARTUUID="04631180-34b0-4aaf-92c5-0306f059f67a" ;; It seems tobe fine the other entry is "cryptswap1 UUID=4c107de3-0c86-4158-9706-56812aa6829b /dev/urandom swap,offset=1024,cipher=aes-xts-plain64"
[18:39] <ubuntu_newb> fwi, I am running from a recovery disk and chrooted into the encrypted drive
[18:39] <blackflow> ubuntu_newb: could you still pastebin the whole crypttab file?
[18:43] <blackflow> acu: is gnome aware of the network? maybe it requires NetworkManager running. Is it running? or, being server, is netplan configuring networkd instead?
[18:43] <ubuntu_newb> blackflow: https://pastebin.com/fwTzKxKS
[18:44] <net_tec> j networking
[18:47] <blackflow> ubuntu_newb: no idea what could be wrong, sorry.
[18:47] <ubuntu_newb> no problem, thanks
[18:51] <acu> blackflow netplan should be configuring networkd
[18:52] <qwert> how can i recover a 60gb folder back to its location? its orig location didnt create a free space of 60gb.
[18:54] <blackflow> qwert: and how did you..... dislocate..... it?
[18:55] <qwert> blackflow was trying to free up space..may be it was highlighted accidently using ctrl..
[18:56] <Jonta> What's there in its stead?
[18:56] <blackflow> qwert: trying how. what did you do exactly?
[18:59] <qwert> blackflow: coz on this drive there are files that are unreadable and since its a new installed system (less than a wk) i decided to delete those unknown file types that have dates before the installation date
[18:59] <EriC^^> qwert: how did you delete them?
[18:59] <qwert> highlight.then delete key
[19:00] <blackflow> qwert: they're in trash bin. also the reason why deleting them didn't free any space
[19:00] <EriC^^> qwert: good, go to /home/e/.local/share/Trash/files
[19:01] <EriC^^> sorry /home/<your username>/.local/....
[19:01] <qwert> i tried to go to the trash bin and restore it.howcome it says not enough space
[19:01] <samurailink3> My wife's desktop is booting to a black screen, it appears to be this issue, so far I have not been able to resolve it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-390/+bug/1773113
[19:02] <EriC^^> qwert: try to move them manually
[19:03] <qwert> Eric : manual as in cut paste?
[19:03] <EriC^^> qwert: no from a terminal
[19:03] <EriC^^> qwert: type "cd ~/.local/share/Trash/files"
[19:04] <EriC^^> then "mv <dirname> ~/filesrestored"
[19:05] <EriC^^> or better yet use "xdg-open ~/.local/share/Trash/files" then cut and paste them where you want them
[19:05] <qwert> ayt.the 1st says.cd command not found
[19:05] <qwert> xdg-open ~/.local/share/Trash/files
[19:06] <qwert> gvfs-open: /home/a/.local/share/Trash/files: error opening location: No application is registered as handling this file
[19:06] <ioria> samurailink3, i'd go with purging nvidia* and use ppa:graphics-drivers (if you really need nvidia proprietary)
[19:07] <samurailink3> ioria: Yea, I did that and install nvidia-drive-396, still booting to a black screen
[19:08] <ioria> samurailink3,  any errors in the installation output ?
[19:08] <samurailink3> Nope, apt was happy
[19:08] <ioria> samurailink3,  secure boot enabled ?
[19:08] <samurailink3> ioria: No, legacy set in bios. This was working before. I think she might have run updates.
[19:09] <ioria> samurailink3,  what video card ?
[19:09] <samurailink3> ioria: GTX 760, if I remember correctly.
[19:10] <ioria> samurailink3,  lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D'
[19:10] <shurtagul> Im trying to install the sugar desktop on lubuntu 18.40 but i cant find the sucrose package when trying to install.
[19:12] <samurailink3> ioria: ... I just forced a reboot and it came up? Now I'm very confused, let me reboot this again (I rebooted about 10 times already today). I need to establish a root cause.
[19:12] <qwert> Eric^^ tried sudo /home/<username>/.local/share/trash   -- the deleted folder doesnt show
[19:12] <samurailink3> ioria: Other than the inevitable root cause of "nvidia idk lol"
[19:12] <ioria> samurailink3,  ok
[19:14] <Jonta> qwert: Did new files come in after you deleted this, thereby filling up your drive? What does `df -h` output?
[19:15] <ioria> acu, you eant NM working
[19:16] <ioria> *want
[19:16] <samurailink3> ioria: Now stuck at a white screen. This is different.
[19:16] <samurailink3> and can't ssh to the host
[19:16] <samurailink3> forcing another reboot
[19:16] <qwert> ioria: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/j36NfRGfYm/
[19:17] <qwert> deleted folder orig loc was on sdb1
[19:19] <Jonta> qwert: The "Avail" column shows how much space is still, yep: Available
[19:19] <Jonta> Could you temporarily move it to sdc1?
[19:19] <Jonta> Move off some files from there
[19:20] <Jonta> Picked that one because it's the largest
[19:20] <qwert> Jonta: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/j36NfRGfYm/    Did new files come in after you deleted this-- sda2 is filling up fast.
[19:21] <EriC^> qwert: look in where sdb1 is mounted under /mountpoint/1000-Trash or something
[19:22] <qwert> Eric^: Jonta: it all started when var sys log suddenly expanded very fast on its own
[19:23] <Jonta> qwert: Can you see what's filling it up?
[19:23] <oerheks> look at the biggest log, maybe it gives a clue
[19:23] <oerheks> :-D
[19:23] <oerheks> oh sorry, i am spoiling the support
[19:23] <EriC^> what started?
[19:23] <EriC^> oh nevermind
[19:23] <Jonta> No, no. It's corroborating evidence
[19:24] <ioria> qwert, du -sh /var/log/syslog
[19:24] <qwert> Eric^ Jonta: i made tail -n 100 /var/log/syslog but i dont understand the output
[19:24] <Jonta> Paste?
[19:25] <EriC^> qwert: it might be something wrong that repetitive in the logs making it huge
[19:25] <qwert> 569M	/var/log/syslog
[19:25] <samurailink3> ioria: lspci output: nvidia drive in use
[19:25] <EriC^> upload it to termbin tail -n 100 /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:25] <ioria> samurailink3, and it's a blank show ?
[19:25] <samurailink3> ioria: The past 3 reboots have resulted in black screens, ssh connects, but quickly times out.
[19:25] <qwert> logs got big.so i decided to clean the other drive.then i deleted the wrong folder.. so i have 2 issues now. :(
[19:25] <samurailink3> ioria: Yea
[19:26] <ioria> samurailink3, purge it
[19:27] <Jonta> qwert: Cleaned?
[19:28] <qwert> termbin tail -n 100 /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999  ---> termbin : command not found
[19:28] <samurailink3> ioria: nvidia-driver-396 purged
[19:28] <Jonta> qwert: I'll hazard a guess that this is stressful. But. You've got a handful of people here with some pretty good ideas. Just breathe. And.  Purged nvidia*.
[19:29] <qwert> Jonta:  tnx.been thru this same scene before (log files getting big)
[19:29] <ioria> samurailink3, and occasionally sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:29] <EriC^> qwert: where you able to restore the deleted dir?
[19:30] <Jonta> qwert: We'll get there. Does this latest command work?
[19:30] <EriC^> it's for sure in the drive as some <uid>-Trasj dir
[19:30] <EriC^> *-Trash
[19:30] <EriC^> qwert: tail -n 100 .....
[19:30] <qwert> http://termbin.com/pc0c  is this the expected output?
[19:30] <Jonta> Yes
[19:30] <samurailink3> ioria: I luckily don't have an xorg.conf
[19:30] <ioria> good
[19:31] <ioria> samurailink3, reboot
[19:31] <qwert> prio to http://termbin.com/pc0c there was http://termbin.com/nonl
[19:32] <Jonta> I think they're identical
[19:32] <samurailink3> ioria: This is strange, my 'reboot' and 'init 6' commands in a root shell are (seemingly) being ignored.
[19:32] <samurailink3> ctrl-alt-del doesn't respond either.
[19:32] <Jonta> qwert: Now, at 3:15:28, there was a bunch of network activity. Recognise it?
[19:33] <ioria> samurailink3, just 'reboot' ?
[19:33] <samurailink3> ioria: Yep, 'reboot' was ignored as well
[19:33] <qwert> Eric^ no output for tail -n 100  ,i tried this before there was an output
[19:34] <samurailink3> ioria: 'shutdown -r' results in 'Failed to connect to bus: no such file or directory'
[19:34] <ioria> samurailink3, ignored , how ? errors ?
[19:34] <qwert> Jonta: lemee check
[19:34] <oerheks>  WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED! .. and really, firefox-esr ??
[19:34] <samurailink3> ioria: No errors, just nothing happening.
[19:34] <ioria> samurailink3,  sudo reboot ?
[19:34] <samurailink3> ioria: Still nothing.
[19:34] <samurailink3> I can just force it down.
[19:35] <samurailink3> Forced reboot
[19:36] <qwert> Jonta: they look usual
[19:37] <Jonta> Hmm.  I was a bit surprised that the log didn't show more frequent occurences
[19:37] <Jonta> Are you sure this is the file that's growing and growing?
[19:38] <qwert> oerheks: clamav installation was a challenge.. ur not a fan of esr? i need to use legacy add ons
[19:38] <samurailink3> ioria: Still black screen
[19:38] <ioria> samurailink3, cat /proc/cmdline
[19:38] <samurailink3> ioria: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-4.15.0-23-generic root=/dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-root ro nomodeset
[19:39] <EriC^> qwert: try a sample thats bigger
[19:39] <qwert> Jonta: var folder is in 50gb already
[19:39] <ioria> samurailink3, why nomodeset ?
[19:39] <samurailink3> ioria: That was one of my troubleshooting steps, someone online recommended it.
[19:40] <samurailink3> I can remove that.
[19:40] <qwert> Jonta: sorry i was mixed up with the specifics on which folder or file
[19:40] <EriC^> !ping
[19:40] <samurailink3> ioria: How about 'quiet splash'
[19:40] <Jonta> qwert: Okay
[19:40] <ioria> samurailink3, cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:40] <Jonta> qwert: What's the biggest file in that folder?
[19:40] <qwert> var > log : 50.1gb
[19:41] <Jonta> And what's the last one to be updated?
[19:41] <samurailink3> ioria: http://termbin.com/9u9f
[19:41] <Jonta> ls -t
[19:41] <qwert> im just using disk usage analyzer
[19:41] <Jonta> Sorts by time
[19:41] <samurailink3> ioria: Just changed the line back to default
[19:42] <qwert> Jonta:  And what's the last one to be updated?  -- > is this for me?
[19:42] <ioria> samurailink3, did you run sudo update-grub after the change ?
[19:42] <Jonta> qwert: Yes
[19:42] <Jonta> qwert: `ls -t`
[19:43] <Jonta> qwert: `ls -Sh`
[19:43] <Jonta> qwert: That first one sorts by time, the 2nd by size
[19:44] <qwert> ls -t    : Documents  Desktop  Downloads  Music  Pictures  Public  Templates  Videos  examples.desktop
[19:44] <samurailink3> ioria: Will run that one
[19:44] <ioria> samurailink3, ok, then paste again the file
[19:44] <Jonta> qwert: You have to be in the directory that's growing. The var folder
[19:44] <qwert> ls- Sh   -- examples.desktop  Desktop  Documents  Downloads  Music  Pictures  Public  Templates  Videos
[19:44] <qwert> i see
[19:44] <samurailink3> ioria: V
[19:44] <samurailink3> ioria: oops, http://termbin.com/6u31
[19:45] <ioria> samurailink3, it's the same;  remove the comment from  #GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[19:46] <samurailink3> ioria: To add nomodeset back in?
[19:46] <samurailink3> ioria: There are two "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT" lines
[19:47] <ioria> samurailink3, yep,but the 2° it's commented; sudo update-grub
[19:47] <qwert> Jonta: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/9sb3nDJKpd/
[19:48] <qwert> Jonta: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/Pd6k2xpvHf/
[19:48] <samurailink3> ioria: Commented 1st line, uncommented 2nd, ran 'sudo update-grub'
[19:48] <ioria> samurailink3, nope,the contrary
[19:48] <samurailink3> Ah, ok, will reverse
[19:49] <samurailink3> ioria: done
[19:49] <ioria> samurailink3, paste it
[19:49] <samurailink3> http://termbin.com/ef3s
[19:50] <ioria> samurailink3, do you see this line  #GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""  ? remove the '#'
[19:50] <samurailink3> ioria: http://termbin.com/qj2m
[19:51] <Jonta> qwert: Right, so kern.log.1 is the biggest, and syslog was changed last. I'd like to know how big though: `ls -lt` and `ls -Shl`
[19:51] <ioria> samurailink3, ok,reboot
[19:51] <ioria> samurailink3, are we sure secure boot is disabled in bios ?
[19:52] <samurailink3> ioria: I'll check on this next reboot
[19:52] <ioria> ok
[19:52] <qwert> Jonta:  https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/6xCfYzGvkQ/
[19:54] <Jonta> Hmm, I *think* we can get rid of… syslog.1
[19:54] <qwert> Jonta: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/xZNhTZ23HT/
[19:54] <Jonta> Hang on
[19:54] <qwert> Jonta: as long as its not being use by other apps -- i guess
[19:55] <samurailink3> ioria: boot mode is Legacy+UEFI
[19:55] <Jonta> qwert: Just googling to make sure…
[19:55] <qwert> Jonta:  saw this before hand https://askubuntu.com/questions/171678/can-i-delete-var-log-files-due-to-low-root-space#171687
[19:55] <ioria> samurailink3, or legacy or efi ... not both :þ
[19:56] <samurailink3> ioria: My bios has two options: UEFI or Legacy+UEFI
[19:56] <Jonta> qwert: Mhm, but they're smaller than I thought. I was hoping for some 50G files
[19:56] <ioria> samurailink3, what is selected ?
[19:56] <EriC^> samurailink3: mokutil --sb-state shows secureboot state
[19:56] <ioria> samurailink3, [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS  will tell
[19:57] <Jonta> qwert: What does this give you? `head -1 kern.log.1`
[19:57] <qwert> Jonta:  orig size of the 16.04 installation was just 20gb+ but now its on 50+ in less than a week
[19:57] <Jonta> qwert: Well, that'll be the log files. Nothing to log before it's installed =)
[19:58] <qwert> Jonta:   [   13.486387]
[19:58] <Jonta> qwert: I'm thinking there must be a way to cut down on how mych is kept before splitting it off into a new file
[19:59] <Jonta> qwert: kernel has already started a new file, so… what if you deleted kern.log.1? Would that give you enough space on the drive for your 60G? Check with `df -h`
[19:59] <samurailink3> ioria: BIOS
[19:59] <samurailink3> EriC^: EFI variables are not supported on this system
[19:59] <ioria> samurailink3, ok, still blank ?
[19:59] <samurailink3> ioria: XFCE is now running :) But I imagine I'm on the open source driver.
[20:00] <ioria> samurailink3, lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:00] <qwert> Jonta:  hmm.. sorry whats the size of kern.log.1 again? is it safe to delete that?
[20:01] <samurailink3> ioria: http://termbin.com/ivn7
[20:01] <ioria> samurailink3, is this a joke ? kernel driver in use: nvidia
[20:02] <Jonta> qwert: 36G. Pretty sure it's safe, yes. I was just hesitant because of the recent write-to-date
[20:02] <samurailink3> ioria: It was just a guess. But it does look like I'm using nvidia. Now the only problem I'm currently experiencing is that the gui is extremely laggy.
[20:02] <ioria> samurailink3, you did purge it .... dude
[20:02] <qwert> Jonta:  ayt,is that a go.should it land on rubbish bin again?
[20:03] <samurailink3> ioria: Yea, I did purge nvidia*
[20:03] <samurailink3> ioria: http://termbin.com/78r6
[20:03] <ioria> samurailink3, dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:03] <ioria> samurailink3, dpkg -l | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:03] <Jonta> qwert: `rm kern.log.1`
[20:04] <Jonta> qwert: Then `df -h`
[20:04] <samurailink3> ioria: Found it, lots of libnvidia and xserver- stuff left
[20:04] <qwert> Jonta:  on my end its 38.1gb.i thinks its growing
[20:04] <samurailink3> ioria: http://termbin.com/zwp2
[20:04] <Jonta> qwert: Hrmmm. Hang on
[20:05] <qwert> Jonta:  ayt. not deleted yet
[20:05] <samurailink3> ioria: running this "sudo apt-get purge libnvidia* xserver-xorg-video-nvidia*"
[20:05] <samurailink3> ioria: rebooting
[20:05] <qwert> 38.1gb -- kern.log.1 file
[20:05] <Jonta> qwert: Do you have KDirStat installed?
[20:06] <qwert> Jonta:  not that i know of
[20:06] <ioria> samurailink3, have to go, sy... other can be of assistance, gl
[20:06] <qwert> KDirStat: command not found
[20:07] <Jonta> `sudo apt-get install kdirstat`
[20:07] <qwert> Jonta:  Unable to locate package kdirstat
[20:08] <Jonta> qwert: How about qdirstat?
[20:08] <qwert> same output.
[20:08] <qwert> Jonta:  Unable to locate package qdirstat
[20:08] <Jonta> Hrm
[20:08] <memphisto> Jonta: filelight ?
[20:09] <Jonta> memphisto: Yeah!
[20:09] <Jonta> qwert: filelight
[20:09] <Jonta> memphisto: Been a while since I've used actual Linux
[20:11] <qwert> Jonta:  proceed with filelight installation?
[20:12] <Jonta> qwert: Yes
[20:12] <qwert> ongoing
[20:12] <Jonta> Woo!
[20:12] <qwert> 70%
[20:14] <Toaderas> Hi everyone
[20:14] <Jonta> Toaderas: Hi
[20:14] <user_224> hi
[20:14] <qwert> Jonta:  done :)
[20:14] <doubtful> easy way to convert html to pdf in ubuntu?
[20:14] <Jonta> qwert: Run it
[20:14] <Toaderas> I got a decent system after 10 years and literally Gnome in latest version of Ubuntu is a true pleasure
[20:14] <qwert> piegraphs.lots of it
[20:14] <Jonta> Toaderas: :D
[20:15] <Jonta> doubtful: Does the HTML come from somewhere else, like Latex?
[20:15] <Jonta> qwert: Any surprisingly large files?
[20:15] <Toaderas> If there is any community manager hear listening though, we need the old notification way of unity dock to work with hexchat and other irc clients in Gnome :/
[20:15] <Toaderas> here *
[20:16] <Toaderas> It is the only annoying part
[20:16] <Jonta> Toaderas: "Old notification way"?
[20:16] <memphisto> switch irc client
[20:16] <Jonta> Toaderas: And, what about just installing Unity?
[20:17] <Toaderas> memphisto: I tried all of them, do you know anyone that works ?
[20:17] <memphisto> i'm on kubutnu and use thunderbird as irc client and when someone writes me i get notification plasma
[20:17] <memphisto> don't know ubutnu, on kubuntu it works, i'm kde user
[20:17] <Jonta> TIL: Thunderbird supports IRC
[20:17] <Toaderas> Jonta: Well, the way to move forward is Gnome, I can't go backwards just to polish my experience
[20:18] <qwert> from 38 to 35.1gb -- kern.log.1 file.. shrinking?
[20:19] <Jonta> qwert: Hm. Maybe older parts being deleted by time, or sectioned off into kern.log.2. Did you find any surprisingly large files?
[20:20] <qwert> hmm.the usual log file
[20:20] <memphisto> qwert: what is it that you are looking for?
[20:20] <qwert> BTW i havenot deleted it yet
[20:20] <Jonta> memphisto: Deleted a file, now there's no room to restore it
[20:22] <qwert> memphisto: freedom from errors :D
[20:22] <memphisto> maybe look the access time stamp
[20:22] <memphisto> whats changing the last and sort by size
[20:22] <Toaderas> Anybody on Ubuntu 18 and gnome ? How can you cope without IRC client icon highlight with new messages ? :/
[20:23] <Jonta> memphisto: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/6xCfYzGvkQ/ - https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/xZNhTZ23HT/
[20:23] <Jonta> !repeat | Toaderas
[20:23] <Toaderas> I am not repeating my question, this is a new question
[20:23] <Toaderas> And I don't feel ignored :)
[20:23] <qwert> BTW i havenot deleted it yet -- the 38gb file is still not removed
[20:23] <doubtful> Jonta, it is just this page https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/
[20:24] <Jonta> doubtful: Hm? I remember your name, but not the issue
[20:24] <memphisto> qwert: so file was in /var/log ?
[20:24] <qwert> memphisto: yes
[20:24] <Jonta> Toaderas: Have you considered an audible beep?
[20:24] <memphisto> are you using linux mint ?
[20:25] <memphisto> what was the file name?
[20:25] <Toaderas> Jonta: No the issue is not when the message arrives, the issue is when I go afk or focus on something else and then I don't know if I got a new message without opening hexchat
[20:25] <qwert> memphisto:  16.04.4 xenial ..
[20:25] <qwert> kern.log.1 file
[20:26] <doubtful> Jonta, I wanted to convert this to pdf https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/ Solutions I tried in ubuntu so far didn't work to the extent of a good rendered color copy.
[20:26] <Bashar> what would be the best way to shrink ubuntu parition and increase windows partition? possible to be done using GParted?
[20:26] <Jonta> doubtful: Ah, rigt
[20:26] <Toaderas> It is a true downgrade from Unity and it's sad because it seems like an easy thing to be sorted out
[20:26] <Jonta> Bashar: Yes. Should be
[20:26] <memphisto> qwert: why do you need it ?
[20:27] <Jonta> doubtful: If it's just a one-off: Did you try something like http://html2pdf.com/ ?
[20:27] <qwert> memphisto: jonta and i were trying to delete it. to give way to file restoration from rubbish bin
[20:28] <qwert> memphisto: aside that its growing fast
[20:28] <Jonta> qwert: What does `df -h` tell you now? How much room would we create if we deleted that kern.log.1?
[20:28] <qwert> 35-38gb free spacce
[20:28] <Jonta> Plus how much available space?
[20:29] <memphisto> do tailf /var/log/kern.log.1 just to see whats writing to it. rm -rf /var/log/kern.log.1 isn't working ?
[20:29] <Bashar> Jonta: Thanks
[20:29] <tomreyn> memphisto: doesn't need -r
[20:29] <memphisto> tru
[20:29] <tomreyn> probably not -f
[20:30] <Jonta> Haven't tried removing it yet
[20:30] <memphisto> its just habbit
[20:30] <Bashar> do i need to defrag first to avoid data loss?
[20:30] <tomreyn> memphisto: bad habit ;)
[20:30] <Bashar> running SSD (old guy of HDD days we used to defrag)
[20:30] <memphisto> true again
[20:30] <Jonta> Bashar: Nah
[20:30] <qwert> Jonta:  freespace on ubuntu partition is 7.6gb while the other drive involve is 19gb
[20:31] <Jonta> qwert: And that… sdc2 drive? The biggest one we found? Is that available for a temporary transfer?
[20:31] <Bashar> Jonta: do i need to boot using livesd to resize the laptop partition? or i can resize the partition while working from it?
[20:31] <Bashar> s/livesd/livesd/g
[20:32] <Jonta> Bashar: Hrm, I only think of GParted in the first sense. Using a Live-CD/USB
[20:32] <tomreyn> if you really want to keep kern.log.*1* (why?), gzip it, possibly move it to a different FS, too.
[20:33] <Jonta> doubtful: Googling "PEP 8 PDF" gives a bunch of hits too
[20:33] <qwert> Jonta: its reserved for something else.but i can use it temporarily till the file size exploding get fix
[20:34] <Jonta> qwert: Sounds good. Go ahead
[20:34] <qwert> tomreyn: im not interested in keeping it.got no use for it or dont know how to use it anyways
[20:34] <qwert> Jonta: proceed with deletion ?
[20:35] <Jonta> Sure thing. And the temporary storage on sdc2 or whatever it was
[20:35] <qwert> Jonta: sounds like the file will be restored to different partitions ?
[20:36] <qwert> from rubbish to 2 partitions? VS from rubbish to orig location ?
[20:36] <Jonta> qwert: Make enough room in 1 place to restore it there
[20:36] <Jonta> *move it there
[20:36] <qwert> ayt