[00:00] <sebsebseb> Alan502: website should be a last resort really
[00:00] <sebsebseb> !nivida  | Alan502
[00:00] <sebsebseb> !nividia
[00:00] <Uboy> Thanks VCoolio . where can I change my pass without insert old pass? (my system does't authentificate my password for sudo, Software Source and..., I use lucid)
[00:00] <Alan502> sebsebseb: so i have to remove the nvidia driver from grub?
[00:00] <flypiper> I need a driver for ipw9345 and it's in non-free source , can somebody point me in the right direction???
[00:00] <ZykoticK9> gionnico, to my knowledge you need to use the USB/Startup Disk Creator thing to create Persistant USB drives
[00:00] <gionnico> duffydack: dd will not give me free space for documents, will it?
[00:00] <hiexpo> sebsebseb,  just one example i have 1200 dvds and it took me 2 weeks to build a data base of them i do not want to do that again lol a back up took 30 secs and have used it twice already   lol
[00:00] <sebsebseb> Alan502: well you can't  log in at all at the moment right?
[00:00] <gionnico> ZykoticK9: but i dont use ubuntu
[00:00] <microcluster> SlidingHorn, i've a lot of gb on it
[00:00] <gionnico> an equivalent tool for any distro?
[00:00] <duffydack> gionnico, so you want persistence.. ok then.. there are guides to making casper-rw out there, google.
[00:00] <Alan502> sebsebseb: i can with a cli
[00:01] <Alan502> sebsebseb: i just changed tty
[00:01] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: right well data CD's and DVD's  don't last forever,  so well every like two years or so, you should make new ones really
[00:01] <ZykoticK9> gionnico, could you use a LiveCD to create the USB image perhaps?
[00:01] <soadkombucha> Tootoot222: Yeah I know that much. I don't want the script to be modified by anyone but me if it ever needs to be.
[00:01] <gionnico> ZykoticK9: heh no really. if i created a livecd then i would use it
[00:01] <sebsebseb> Alan502: right, but you can log in, but only to command line?
[00:01] <Uboy> where can I change my pass without insert old pass? (my system does't authentificate my password for sudo, Software Source and..., I use lucid)
[00:01] <soadkombucha> Tootoot222: What about the GRUB issue?
[00:01] <gionnico> i dont have a empty CD rom now
[00:01] <sebsebseb> ^xellos^: uhmm
[00:01] <hiexpo> !persistent
[00:01] <Alan502> sebsebseb: yes
[00:01] <sebsebseb> ^xellos^: still Flash issue right?
[00:01] <iceroot> Uboy: as root you can
[00:01] <sebsebseb> Alan502: yeah its messed up
[00:01] <Alan502> sebsebseb: can i remove the driver from the command lne?
[00:01] <SlidingHorn> microcluster, unfortunately there's no way to do that, if I remember correctly.  It's always suggested that you keep an unencrypted backup if you choose to encrypt your home directory
[00:02] <sebsebseb> Alan502: time to try recovery mode
[00:02] <Uboy> iceroot How?
[00:02] <SlidingHorn> microcluster, see here for more information: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedHomeFolder
[00:02] <sebsebseb> Alan502: uh yeah with the correct command sure,  but not sure which that is,  anyway recovery mode will let you do it I guess
[00:02] <VCoolio> clayg: for i in $(ls); do zip -r $i.zip $i; done      <-- my last stab at it
[00:02] <microcluster> SlidingHorn, ok thanks
[00:02] <Alan502> sebsebseb: ok i'll reboot and try
[00:02] <iceroot> Uboy: sudo -i  and then  passwd theusername
[00:03] <sebsebseb> Alan502: I think theres an option xfix or something like that still
[00:03] <sebsebseb> Alan502: if  not well you need command to remove it
[00:03] <iceroot> Uboy: maybe sudo passwd username   is also working
[00:03] <sebsebseb> Alan502: or I think theres still a fixing xorg ooption
[00:03] <gionnico> duffydack: i see it's easy
[00:03] <gionnico> just loopmount the iso, create the empty file of right size and format it ext3
[00:03] <Anvoid> i want to get mozilla thunderbird working but it exits. whenever thunderbird connects to aim/aol server to update mails, it happens. this works well when i add mail accounts from gmail, hotmail, etc. any clues? thank you.
[00:04] <^xellos^> sebsebseb,: thanks for help, i will do a fresh 10.1 install
[00:04] <soadkombucha> Tootoot222: I also got the grub issue. I'll be back shortly after I test a reboot and test my script.
[00:04] <sebsebseb> ^xellos^: you could do yeah
[00:04] <duffydack> gionnico,  use a virtualbox install to make the cd/usb, or use portable ubuntu (not sure it`d work never tried)
[00:04] <sebsebseb> ^xellos^: or just upgrade to it
[00:04] <Uboy> iceroot when i type sudo -i, the system want form me the password and when i insert that, system say password wrong
[00:04] <VCoolio> Uboy: did you change hosts file and not hostname file or other way round? check if /etc/hosts contains correct hostname
[00:04] <hiexpo> sebsebseb,  i have never heard that before that the life on a cd/dvd is only two years / i was refering to a library
[00:04] <gionnico> duffydack: no looks like loop mount and dd is all what i need
[00:04] <sebsebseb> ^xellos^: good idea to check your CD ISO before using by the way
[00:04] <iceroot> Uboy: then insert the correct password
[00:04] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | ^xellos^
[00:05] <iceroot> Uboy: its the password from your current logged in user
[00:05] <Alan502> sebsebseb: ummm google?
[00:05] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: not 2 years well it can be
[00:05] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: they tend to last like 5  or 7 or maybe 10 years,  apparantly
[00:05] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: I mean CD R  DVD R
[00:05] <Uboy> iceroot i know, but the system does't accept this!
[00:05] <sebsebseb> hiexpo:  CD RW  DVD RW
[00:05] <iceroot> Uboy: but you are logged in with the user and password
[00:06]  * duffydack has a cd that still reads that he wrote back in 1996
[00:06] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: and after a while the disc doesn't work as well as it used to
[00:06] <Alan502> sebsebseb: there's a command named xfig and another one named xmix
[00:06] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: depends though on the CD/DVD
[00:06] <hiexpo> sebsebseb, true
[00:06] <iceroot> Uboy: so i am sure you have misstyped the password, using capslock,different keyboard-layout or something like that
[00:06] <duffydack> its also a cheap nasty disc and totally transparent in its dye :)
[00:07] <soadkombucha> Tootoot222: Thank you very much for the help the script works perfectly. Stupid realtek wifi cards.
[00:07] <Uboy> iceroot I'm surprised, the main problem and joke is here, in login window, the system dont wanna me the password, but in any command after login and sudo, want me!
[00:07] <iceroot> Uboy: you have autologin enabled as it seems
[00:08] <sebsebseb> duffydack: well I got a lot of old CD's here, that I want to go through,  that will take a long time,  and most of them haven't been looked after properly, and I have no idea what is on them, since not labbeled, quite a lot will be blank CDs in fact. and yeah throw out what I don't want.  A bit like how I got a lot of papers here, that I want to go through and get rid of what I don't want, but not done it again yet.
[00:09] <Uboy> iceroot ok, but waht can i do now?
[00:09] <hiexpo> ^xellos^, place iso in home folder right click on it click properties copy top line /name of it / close it / no changes   / open terminal type md5sum paste what you copied and get the output/ compare to ubuntu's iso md5
[00:09] <iceroot> Uboy: remember your password
[00:09] <Uboy> any command with sudo needs password and I don't have that
[00:09] <iceroot> Uboy: have a look at /var/log/auth.log about th error-message
[00:09] <ricky_goop> may somebody help me? how do i change the splash screen on ubunutu?
[00:09] <Uboy> I know that successfully
[00:09] <Alan502> somebody help me getting my kubuntu again!
[00:09] <soadkombucha> iceroot: Couldn't he sudo -s and change the password through bash using the root account?
[00:09] <iceroot> Uboy: sudo wants your user-password
[00:09] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: to late they left
[00:09] <hiexpo> ricky_goop,  leave it alone
[00:10] <hiexpo> oh well
[00:10] <iceroot> soadkombucha: that is what i am telling him but he forgotten his userpassword
[00:10] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: why?
[00:10] <Uboy> I know, all of my usernames, account in Pc, Net, Blog and.... is one thing!
[00:10] <sebsebseb> Alan502: right uhmm
[00:10] <duffydack> single user mode is the way then
[00:10] <sebsebseb> Alan502: xfix yeah?
[00:10] <soadkombucha> iceroot: ahh.
[00:10] <sebsebseb> Alan502: what were the options?
[00:10] <hiexpo> ricky_goop,  it was  not meant to be changed with grub2
[00:10] <iceroot> Uboy: cat /var/log/auth.log
[00:10] <ZykoticK9> Uboy, see this link to reset passwords http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[00:10] <iceroot> Uboy: and look for the error from sudo
[00:11] <Anvoid> know why adding an aim account crashes thunderbird?
[00:11] <duffydack> recovery mode, passwd , done.
[00:11] <flypiper> what is the bots name here?
[00:11] <iceroot> flypiper: ubottu
[00:11] <marcos_> ubottu, flypiper
[00:11] <soadkombucha> Anvoid: Is it adding the AIM account or is it the server settings? Does Thunderbird support AOL Mail connections?
[00:11] <flypiper> thanks
[00:11] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: but there is a lot of splash images to download
[00:12] <hiexpo> ricky_goop, how long do u have to look at it 15 secs who cares if it's not broke no need to fix it
[00:12] <sebsebseb> soadkombucha: this channel isn't really the best for Thunderbird help,  theres  irc.mozilla.org  mozillazine.org forum
[00:12] <tommy2010__> how do I disable tcp6 in 10.4 ?
[00:12] <Anvoid> soadkombucha: not sure what you mean by support but i it does help me config the smtp, imap, and port when i enter the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:12] <soadkombucha> sebsebseb: Anvoid was asking a question.
[00:13] <soadkombucha> Anvoid: Take sebsebseb's adive and try the Mozilla IRC
[00:13] <soadkombucha> Anvoid: You're on a software-wide issue, not a system-wide issue dealing with thunderbird
[00:13] <hiexpo> ricky_goop, \ you can google it and find out how if u want to but don't say i didn't warn you cause i guarantee you will crash and lose boot
[00:13] <Flannel> soadkombucha: AOL mail would either be POP or IMAP, so yes, it will.
[00:13] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: okay... and where i can learn about these things that is not meant to be changed?
[00:13] <soadkombucha> Flannel: It's IMAP
[00:13] <soadkombucha> Anvoid: http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/faq#aol
[00:13] <Flannel> soadkombucha: Then yes, thunderbird supports IMAP
[00:13] <soadkombucha> Flannel: I know. that's why I use it.
[00:13] <ricky_goop> there must be a lot of thing like this
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[00:13] <anigma> is there a way to reinstall/recover ubuntu using the install disk? I'm not able to login and I desperatly need to keep my configuration and all the stuff in /home
[00:14] <omani> got a problem with mutt. deleting msgs is not possible. the $ funtcion to sync the mailbox doenst work too
[00:14] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: there must be a lot of thing like this
[00:14] <hiexpo> ricky_goop,  - google is your best friend
[00:14] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: heh
[00:14] <omani> everatime a start mutt i have the msgs there again
[00:14] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: ok, ty
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> anigma: why don't you just restore from backup?
[00:14] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: XD
[00:14] <Flannel> anigma: One thing you can do is move /home to a separate partition, and then reinstall Ubuntu around it.
[00:14] <hiexpo> ricky_goop, yep no prob
[00:14] <soadkombucha> anigma: Boot into recovery mode and "cp -r" the /home/username directory to a different drive
[00:14] <Flannel> !separatehome | anigma
[00:14] <flypiper> bot must be taking a nap... I need a wireless driver for 9.10 in non-free... does anybody know what I need to put in sources.list??
[00:14] <iceroot> omani: #mutt
[00:14] <omani> thx
[00:14] <soadkombucha> anigma: And then you could reinstall ubuntu and like Flannel said make /home a separate mount point on it's own partition
[00:14] <ZykoticK9> anigma, you could boot to a LiveCD and copy your files to another media
[00:15] <_ath> if anyone knows anything about xorg/fglrx, I'd appreciate it if they took a peek at this and, if they can provide it, give some advice: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518556
[00:15] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: may i ask you another thing?
[00:15] <hiexpo> ricky_goop, sure
[00:15] <gionnico> is MBR of the livecd the first 512 bytes of ISO?
[00:15] <soadkombucha> flypiper: What wireless card do you have?
[00:16] <duffydack> 446 isnt it
[00:16] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: look, i have gnome and kde here
[00:16] <flypiper> soadkombucha, it's the intel/pro 3945
[00:16] <Uboy> iceroot I think what the mistake i did! when I'm trying to configure fingerprint sensor from this site > http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Installation > in term of instructions wants me to edit the file named > /etc/pam.d and u can see it in configure PAM section, I did that and after that this error appeared , can u see the page below and help me plz?
[00:16] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: i cant shutdown from kde
[00:16] <soadkombucha> flypiper: OK I was going to say if it's Realtek you can get proprietary drivers from their site and I have a good tutorial I used but let me look really quick
[00:16] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: `cause i use gdm
[00:16] <mattgyver> does ubuntu maintain a list of package versions that are contained within each released distro?
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> mattgyver: sure, you can ask ubottu
[00:17] <Typos_King> mattgyver:   yes
[00:17] <SlidingHorn> mattgyver, yes -- http://packages.ubuntu.com
[00:17] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: there is any way to shut from kde even if i continue using gdm?
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> mattgyver: use: !info packagename release
[00:17] <hiexpo> ricky_goop, yhats weird cause i use gnome and some gdm stuff also but no kde i hate it
[00:17] <Uboy> iceroot I think what the mistake i did! when I'm trying to configure fingerprint sensor from this site > http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Installation > in term of instructions wants me to edit the file named > /etc/pam.d and u can see it in configure PAM section, I did that and after that this error appeared , can u see the page below and help me plz?
[00:17] <flypiper> soadkombucha, I reinstalled 9.10 on my daughters HP DV6000 and the driver on the CD is broken..
[00:17] <mattgyver> Thanks guys, thats good information to know :)
[00:17] <soadkombucha> flypiper: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/how-to-install-intel-pro-ipw3945-wireless-drivers/
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> SlidingHorn: asking ubottu is a bit easier ;)
[00:17] <Typos_King> ricky_goop:    sudo poweroff; not working? :)
[00:18] <ZykoticK9> gionnico, i'm not sure ISO boot files are even in an "MBR" in the same way hard disks are.  i'm not sure man, good luck.
[00:18] <SlidingHorn> ActionParsnip, probably -- mattgyver follow action's suggestion instead :)
[00:18] <ricky_goop> no...
[00:18] <flypiper> soadkombucha, Thanks
[00:18] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: no...
[00:18] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Not a problem.
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> Typos_King: sudo shutdown -h now    will shutdown the pc
[00:18] <Uboy> iceroot I think what the mistake i did! when I'm trying to configure fingerprint sensor from this site > http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Installation > in term of instructions wants me to edit the file named > /etc/pam.d and u can see it in configure PAM section, I did that and after that this error appeared , can u see the page below and help me plz?
[00:18] <SlidingHorn> !repeat | uboy
[00:18] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: i have to logout and shutdown from the login screen
[00:18] <soadkombucha> Does anyone in here know how to properly compile the realtek high-def audio codecs for linux?
[00:18] <gionnico> ZykoticK9: i'm trying to create USB image from CD image
[00:18] <Typos_King> ricky_goop:  what about what ActionParsnip just said? sudo shutdown -h?
[00:18] <mattgyver> !info initramfs-tools lucid
[00:18] <gionnico> but i dont just copy cd image to usb because i need to edit some file
[00:19] <Uboy> ok, sorry guys
[00:19] <hiexpo> ricky_goop, is that a fresh install ?
[00:19] <ricky_goop> hiexpo: w8, i'll login in kde
[00:19] <gionnico> so I mount /mnt/cdrom with loop from ubuntu.iso and /mnt/usb
[00:19] <gionnico> then cp -r /mnt/cdrom/* /mnt/usb
[00:19] <gionnico> then i need the mbr I guess
[00:19] <SlidingHorn> !enter | gionnico
[00:19] <Uboy> iceroot are u here?
[00:20] <soadkombucha> gionnico: What if you tried getting the ISO image and adding the files to it and rebuilding it as bootable
[00:20] <hiexpo> ricky_goop,  ^ read what others are saying also please
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> gionnico: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/ubuntu.iso /mnt/cdrom; sudo ln -s /mnt/cdrom /mnt/usb
[00:20] <Jaker> hi
[00:20] <gionnico> soadkombucha: that's what i'm doing
[00:20] <soadkombucha> Hi Jaker
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> gionnico: assuming /mnt/cdrom exists. if not run: sudo mkdir /mnt/cdrom
[00:20] <soadkombucha> gionnico: Trying to copy it to USB? You could use unetbootin for Linux it has a GUI
[00:20] <ricky_goop> Typos_King: i'll login in kde
[00:21] <ricky_goop> Typos_King: w8\
[00:21] <gionnico> soadkombucha: i don't have a gui i'm working from ssh
[00:21] <gionnico> maybe i should use syslinux
[00:21] <Uboy> farsi zaboon hast onja?
[00:21] <soadkombucha> gionnico: Syslinux should work.
[00:22] <soadkombucha> flypiper: How's that tutorial going for you?
[00:22] <_ath> if anyone knows anything about xorg/fglrx, I'd appreciate it if they took a peek at this and, if they can provide it, give some advice: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518556
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> _ath: you didnt add your xorg.conf file
[00:22] <Uboy> guys, what is the IDE for AVR developing with C?
[00:22] <_ath> ah one second ActionParsnip
[00:22] <_ath> i'll quickly paste my latest one
[00:22] <hiexpo> i know what the problem is he has all that kde stuff install in gnome now kde has overridin
[00:23] <profxavier> no /etc/init.d/samba ?
[00:23] <profxavier> how can I restart Samba ?
[00:23] <_ath> ActionParsnip: added it.
[00:23] <plainas> how do i activate universe and multiverse on lucid?
[00:23] <Uboy> profxavier reinstall package
[00:23] <orm> [ kd197] !fight arch ubuntu
[00:23] <orm> 19:16 [ phrik] kd197: arch: 8750000, ubuntu: 5940000
[00:23] <orm> thought you ought to know
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> plainas: use software sources under: System -> admin
[00:24] <profxavier> Uboy: its installed
[00:24] <Daekdroom> !ot | orm
[00:24] <Uboy> I know, Remove and reinstall again
[00:24] <plainas> mmm they are already active... strange, can't seen to find winwrangler in there
[00:25] <soadkombucha> Does anyone know if a repository for the proprietary realtek wireless LAN drivers exists?
[00:25] <hiexpo> !samba
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> soadkombucha: it needs compiling
[00:25] <Uboy> u can copy back up with  >> cp /etc/init.d/samba  ~/Samba
[00:25] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: I'm aware. I've been doing it by hand.
[00:26] <Uboy> and before that > mkdir ~/Samba
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> soadkombucha: set one up dude
[00:26] <Uboy> reinstall package and copy the backup
[00:26] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: I don't have a server to run a repository off of. Plus linuxwiki has a really good tutorial. 10.04 has a really annoying fix that I wrote a shell script for
[00:26] <Uboy> your files works, your shell doesnt khow the levels
[00:27] <profxavier> Uboy, odd, but I tried to -reinstall- samba
[00:27] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: So a repository might not work very well anyways. Plus I only have the rtl8191_se, which uses the same as rtl8192_se and only those two as far as I know
[00:27] <profxavier> it did, but still the same issue, nothing in /etc/init.d
[00:27] <Uboy> ok, what happened?
[00:28] <Uboy> profaxvier u can make that dir bye hand
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> soadkombucha: you'd need to compile it for every kernel going as not all users will be using the latest kernel
[00:29] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: And as of right now I don't have that kind of time. If you look the tutorial isn't too difficult to find.
[00:29] <Uboy> bye=by
[00:29] <Uboy> sorry guys I'm so tired
[00:29] <Uboy> bye
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> soadkombucha: make a script, when you get a new script just run the script :)
[00:29] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: A script to autocompile the driver?
[00:29] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: I'm gonna go work on that.
[00:30] <profxavier> hmmm
[00:30] <_ath> ActionParsnip: you had a chance to look at it?
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> soadkombucha: sure, jut keep the source for the driver in teh same place, you can use the defined constants in linux as well as uname in various guises to set stuff up nice
[00:30] <profxavier> anyone else, wanna try and troubleshoot why I have samba installed, but I cannot restart the service using /etc/init.d/samba
[00:31] <_ath> profxavier: can you stop it?
[00:31] <profxavier> its smbd, not samba
[00:31] <profxavier> i believe
[00:32] <Tootoot222> yes, it is smbd
[00:32] <LifeEscalade> hi guys
[00:32]  * LifeEscalade bows down to jpds
[00:32] <feanus> lol
[00:33] <LifeEscalade> sup feanus
[00:33] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: Yeah I set it as ~/
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> soadkombucha: could be dead handy
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> _ath: post again
[00:34] <_ath> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518556
[00:34] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: The only problem is I'll have to modify the script if an updated driver version comes out
[00:34] <LifeEscalade> anyone know a good vnc server/client combo to use?
[00:34] <profxavier> anyone develop iphone apps in Ubuntu ?
[00:34] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: But that's just changing version names in directories and the .tar.gz file
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> _ath: set some refresh rates in your monitor section. it may not be reoprting them properly
[00:34] <cntrational> 1377 nicks
[00:34] <cntrational> what
[00:35] <_ath> ActionParsnip: it didn't work with them set either.
[00:35] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: I'm going to be rebooting from an Ubuntu update I'll be back in a few minutes
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> soadkombucha: you could just have a folder called source, the version number would be moot then
[00:35] <DrKenobi> anyone uses Sugar in ubuntu?
[00:35] <_ath> besides, that wouldn't explain locking the entire machine until power cycle / ctrl + alt + sysrq + b
[00:36] <cntrational> shouldn't it be "Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid) has been released!"
[00:37] <Jaker> I am a Russian user ubuntu greetings to you from Russia!!
[00:37] <bazhang> Jaker, did you have a support question?
[00:38] <cntrational> Jaker: hi
[00:38] <Jaker> Yes
[00:38] <bazhang> Jaker, then please ask
[00:38] <Jaker> cntrational hi
[00:38] <plainas> can anybody tell me where to find winwrangler debs?
[00:39] <plainas> I even added the developer's own ppa reository and still can't find it by search through apt
[00:39] <Jaker> You were in Moscow?
[00:40] <bazhang> plainas, did you sudo apt-get update
[00:40] <bazhang> Jaker, please keep the channel for ubuntu support questions only; chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> plainas: you will need to run: sudo apt-get update   after you add the ppa
[00:41] <plainas> ActionParsnip, i did
[00:42] <wajimba> How do I use [ctrl]+[alt]+f2 to kill the current session and launch a new one?
[00:42] <profxavier> anyone develop iphone apps in Ubuntu ?
[00:43] <Jaker> well, OK
[00:43] <notebook> howcan i download itunes for ubuntu???
[00:43] <plainas> mmmm ok... i checked the output a bit more carefully W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kamstrup/ppa/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[00:43] <profxavier> notebook, you cannot, but there are similar applications, what did you want to do exactly ?
[00:43] <bazhang> notebook, there is no itunes for ubuntu
[00:43] <LifeEscalade> has anyone used vnc to remotely connect from win7 to 10.04 server?
[00:43] <Typos_King> !ipod | notebook
[00:44] <notebook> howcan i download itunes for ubuntu??????
[00:44] <profxavier> LifeEscalade, server, meaning the command line ?
[00:44] <bazhang> notebook, you cannot, please don't repeat
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> notebook: bazhang : some versions of itunes work with some versions of wine
[00:44] <LifeEscalade> no server edition
[00:44] <Typos_King> screw itunes, is just a 250mbs piece of bloatware :P
[00:44] <aretrfre34> laptop hasn't /dev/radio0 is it means i cant play radio?
[00:44] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, barely
[00:44] <kermit> how does ubuntu pay for all the bandwidth they must be using?
[00:44] <LifeEscalade> i went nu-school and installed kde on server edition :P
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: ipods barely work too ;)
[00:44] <Daekdroom> kermit, Canonical
[00:44] <Vexille> kermit: ubuntu is run by a level 27 wizard
[00:45] <notebook> well is there something that i can download that is like itunes that i can download to put songs on my ipod touch???
[00:45] <LifeEscalade> lawls
[00:45] <aretrfre34> i mean real radio
[00:45] <kermit> Daekdroom: ty
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> notebook: banshee
[00:45] <notebook> thank you
[00:45] <bazhang> notebook, there are several; rhythmbox is one
[00:45] <Vexille> notebook: your question was answered already. scroll up and look for the responses
[00:45] <Daekdroom> Rhythmbox itself can do it.
[00:45] <Typos_King> !rhythmbox | notebook
[00:45] <alasca> notebook,  Listen, the guys have explained you what to do. If you are a troll please /part.
[00:45] <plainas> mmmm ok, it appears that the guy maintains the repo didn't added packges for lucid
[00:45] <plainas> whatever... i'll just install this one:
[00:46] <aretrfre34> or i need radio module using headset?
[00:46] <cntrational> does empathy not support file transfers
[00:46] <wajimba> anybody? how do I kill the current session and start a new one using tty?
[00:46] <Vexille> cntrational: only for certain protocols i.e. people nearby can do it
[00:46] <AndrewX192> !netbook
[00:46] <duffydack> notebook, forget itunes, use ubuntuone account with ryhthmbox
[00:46] <cntrational> I'm not sure of what "people nearby" actually is <.<
[00:46] <Typos_King> wajimba:  why you need to do that?
[00:46] <plainas> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kamstrup/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/w/winwrangler/
[00:47] <Daekdroom> cntrational, well, I'm sure it doesn't have file transfer over MSN
[00:47] <cntrational> anyway what
[00:47] <cntrational> why would it not support something like that
[00:47] <Daekdroom> Empathy is kinda recent.
[00:47] <alasca> cntrational,  I don't know about empathy sorry, file transfer in Pidgin works.
[00:47] <wajimba> typos_king: it froze and I don't want to take the entire system down
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> notebook: or gtkpod, easier to get a decent player. You have a device from one of the most shortsighted and closed mnded companys around
[00:47] <cntrational> then why is it GNOME's new default IM app
[00:48] <Daekdroom> Because it was made by GNOME team.
[00:48] <notebook> is there a chat thing like messanger that will work on ubuntu???
[00:48] <_ath> If you know anything about the ati proprietary drivers running under 10.04 LTS, please have a look at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518556
[00:48] <aretrfre34> laptop hasn't /dev/radio0 is it means i cant play radio?
[00:48] <Typos_King> wajimba:    just use alt-f1 through alt-f6 either will give you a console session
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> notebook: emesene or amsn or pidgin
[00:48] <bazhang> notebook, there are several
[00:48] <bazhang> notebook, I would suggest you have a read of the ubuntu manual
[00:48] <bazhang> !manual | notebook
[00:49] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: So even when I used synaptics to remove an old kernel (this one is running stably), the grub entries didn't delete. Is it gonna be a problem that I "sudo rm /boot/..." the old vmlinuz and init files?
[00:49] <Uboy> hi againguys
[00:49] <Typos_King> !pidgin | notebook
[00:49] <cntrational> "ubottu"
[00:49] <wajimba> typos_king: yeah, what's the command to launch gnome? I tried xstart and it says "server is already active for display 0"
[00:49] <_ath> wajimba: gdm
[00:49] <Vexille> cntrational: you've got me on that one. i imagine because of something to do with the telepathy framework; there must be something about it that is preferred?
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> soadkombucha: try: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> soadkombucha: make sure it is removed with: dpkg -l | grep linux-image-2
[00:50] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: After I finish installing Cheese
[00:50] <Typos_King> wajimba:    ..... there's one... to restrart the GDM? or the window manager compiz/metacity?
[00:50] <coz_> cesc,
[00:50] <coz_> hey guy
[00:50] <coz_> cesc,   hey guy
[00:50] <wajimba> yeah, how do I restart the gdm
[00:50] <TaskbarGone> Is there a way to mashup "apt-cache search <SearchTerm>" & "dpkg -l" - so that given a SearchTerm, it would find all the related package names in the cache, then do a "dpkg -l" on those package names?
[00:51] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: Only one file is found however. So I can continue installing software,
[00:51] <Typos_King> !gdm | wajimba
[00:51] <_ath> wajimba: gdm will start with X
[00:51] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: But I will write a script to perform that function
[00:51] <Uboy> guys I try to change my pass with this instruction > http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword using the GRUB but when I choose the recovery mode the white page 2 (contains Drop to root shell prompt) does't appear and the GRUB stopped in lines.... cn any body help me?
[00:51] <Typos_King> hehe, wrong shot ^_^
[00:52] <hanasaki> anyone running acidbase?  for some reason it cannot connect to my DB....
[00:52] <cntrational> i wonder if anybody has made an ubuntu derivative called "isintu" or "abantu" or some other isiZulu prefix using -ntu
[00:52] <wajimba> typos_king, _ath, !gdm isn't working either
[00:52] <cntrational> *affix
[00:52] <Uboy> guys I try to change my pass with this instruction > http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword using the GRUB but when I choose the recovery mode the white page 2 (contains Drop to root shell prompt) does't appear and the GRUB stopped in lines.... cn any body help me?
[00:52] <_ath> wajimba: what exactly are you trying to do.
[00:53] <Typos_King> wajimba:  right.... there's one I think, I believe is ... gconf line, the bot has it, just can't recall the alias/trigger
[00:53] <aretrfre34> Uboy:GRUB is boot load you can reset passes using it
[00:53] <wajimba> _ath: the current session froze, trying to start a new one without taking the whole system down
[00:53] <LifeEscalade> so honestly how bad is it when apache states: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName
[00:54] <_ath> wajimba: change to that screen, and ctrl alt backspace
[00:54] <_ath> ?
[00:54] <_ath> tried that?
[00:54] <aretrfre34> Uboy:just hit esc and select recovery mod from grub list
[00:54] <Typos_King> LifeEscalade:  regular MO
[00:54] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: I am glad I've been reading an ubuntu book... It's for 8.04 and 8.10 but I've learned a decent chunk from it already
[00:54] <LifeEscalade> Typos_King: So its cool it says that?
[00:54] <Uboy> aretrfte34 yes I did that but the GRUb stopped after I select Recovery Mode fro Grub list
[00:55] <aretrfre34> Uboy:did you touch grub files?
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> soadkombucha: never read it myself, i just used the OS and learned
[00:55] <Typos_King> LifeEscalade:    yes, I think it just means whatever it found on the httpd.conf or other .conf's for the ServerName or such directive, didn't go through or is not found, I think it does that when there's none set
[00:55] <_ath> wajimba: by changing to the X screen i mean ctrl + alt + F7
[00:55] <Uboy> aretrfte34 normally we must see the page white in this link/ true? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[00:55] <soadkombucha> ActionParsnip: My friend had it so I figured why not. The internet is useful but I learn really well from books.
[00:56] <NetScr1be> Clean install of Ubuntu 9.04 (jaunty) connects to wifi but won't resolve any addresses
[00:56] <dominicdinada> NetScr1be: Are you using the correct authentication method
[00:56] <soadkombucha> What's the package name that installs all the non-free common files?
[00:56] <dominicdinada> soadkombucha: Conical Partners?
[00:56] <NetScr1be> WPA PSK
[00:56] <_ath> wajimba: if gdm has already died, but X is still running, kill X and restart it.
[00:56] <Typos_King> soadkombucha:    I think is the Restricted packages, not sure though
[00:57] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: There's a package that installs Java and audio codecs
[00:57] <wajimba> _ath: yeah, that's got it. Thx :)
[00:57] <_ath> wajimba: yw.
[00:57] <Uboy> aretrfte34?
[00:57] <cntrational> so, I use the Compose key to enter characters; but GTK+ and Qt applications use different combinations — ".." is … in GTK, but it's ˙ in Qt
[00:57] <_ath> wajimba: for future reference, ctrl alt backspace tries to restart the X server.
[00:57] <alasca> !ubuntu-restricted-extras | soadkombucha
[00:57] <soadkombucha> alasca: Thank you I had just found it
[00:57] <cntrational> is there a way to have them use the same combinations
[00:57] <_ath> wajimba:  so if you get gui problems that look terminal, that's your first port of call.
[00:57] <NetScr1be> same as on this system WPA/WPA2
[00:57] <_ath> terminal ie cancer.
[00:57] <_ath> not tty.
[00:57] <aretrfre34> Uboy:don't ever touch system files unless you know what are you doing
[00:58] <matt____> Hiya, I was looking for a little simple help on formatting an external HDD with gparted... i select the HD in the list of sdb devices, but i can't select 'Format to' - why is this likely to be? Thanks!
[00:58] <Uboy> aretrfte34:  yes, i think
[00:58] <Typos_King> soadkombucha:   I install those separately :)
[00:58] <soadkombucha> aretrfre34: What if you're using a very detailed tutorial?
[00:58] <_ath> aretrfre34: that's a pretty bad guideline..
[00:58] <Vexille> Uboy: yeah you are supposed to see that menu upon choosing recovery mode in grub, but you said you aren't getting anywhere. Do you have more than one kernel installed to just try recovery mode on a different version?
[00:58] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: I use all of them. I don't WANT to have Flash installed but I'm still on firefox for now I just installed Chrome. Thankfully they have internal flash in the stable builds now
[00:58] <soadkombucha> Is Amarok KDE?
[00:59] <_ath> aretrfre34: one it restricts you enormously, two you don't get to have as much fun(http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/Fun) / learn.
[00:59] <cntrational> soadkombucha: yes
[00:59] <aretrfre34> laptop hasn't /dev/radio0 is it means i cant play radio?
[00:59] <soadkombucha> cntrational: OK I'll need to install Kubuntu Restricted to use it then even if I'm under Gnome?
[00:59] <Uboy> aretrfre34: I'm just follow this instructions to configure my fingerprint sensor  http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Installation
[00:59] <cntrational> no, you don't
[00:59] <_ath> no soadkombucha
[00:59] <lfitz> is there a way to customize the them of notify-send, i have x forwarded on my sheeva to send notifications to my laptop using a script, but i get the standard blue and white notify-send notifications
[00:59] <_ath> gnome / kde apps can run under either dm.
[00:59] <soadkombucha> cntrational: Odd last time I did Ubuntu restricted it didn't play any of my audio files
[00:59] <cntrational> soadkombucha: GNOME will support KDE apps and vice versa
[00:59] <lfitz> i would like to receive the black ubuntu notifications..
[00:59] <Uboy> vexille: no one kernak
[00:59] <NetScr1be> ok it just started working
[00:59] <lfitz> using 10.04
[01:00] <soadkombucha> cntrational: That's why I was curious. Because I was having issues before.
[01:00] <dominicdinada> NetScr1be: What did you select differently ?
[01:00] <Typos_King> soadkombucha:    they do not afaik, I got chrome recently, didn't come with flash, you can always just get the libflashplayer.so file by itself or extract it from the .zip for installation and drop it at /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and chrome/opera/firefox use that
[01:00] <cntrational> soadkombucha: it'll take up more RAM to run programs like that, though, since they'd have to load more stuff
[01:00] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: Is not not on Debian based linux yet?
[01:00] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: I know internal flash is on Windows
[01:00] <_ath> cntrational: at the moment that's largely irrelevant
[01:01] <_ath> and soon to be entirely.
[01:01] <Typos_King> soadkombucha:    ubuntu is, yes
[01:01] <Uboy> aretrfre34: see this page > http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage  Upper page I'm sent is wrong
[01:01] <cntrational> _ath: is it?
[01:01] <NetScr1be> dominicdinada, that's the weird part - it just started working
[01:01] <_ath> cntrational: yes.
[01:01] <crdlb> lfitz: I'm not sure I understand your setup, but the difference is between notify-osd and notification-daemon
[01:01] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: I know Chrome is, but they haven't released stable with internal flash yet.
[01:01] <cntrational> soadkombucha: exaile is a amarok inspired music player for GNOME
[01:01] <NetScr1be> dominicdinada, actually I 6ook etho down
[01:01] <NetScr1be> took
[01:01] <soadkombucha> cntrational: If Amarok decides to continue being odd I'll use it. I was upset when they discontinued songbird support for Linux.
[01:02] <aretrfre34> Uboy:ok, see, how many reasonable people around
[01:02] <_ath> NetScr1be: you did ifconfig eth0 down
[01:02] <Typos_King> soadkombucha:  chrome is debian based?  not sure on that, I know is based on Chromium the browser
[01:02] <_ath> and it came up by itself?
[01:02] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: They have a debian release for Chrome
[01:02] <dominicdinada> soadkombucha: cntrational there is also the default rythmbox
[01:02] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: chrome.google.com gives you a download
[01:02] <aretrfre34> laptop hasn't /dev/radio0 is it means i cant play radio?
[01:02] <crdlb> lfitz: notify-osd is the ubuntu one
[01:02] <soadkombucha> dominicdinada: I hate rythmbox
[01:02] <Vexille> Uboy: try this guide for using a livecd to reset your password http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-ubuntu-password-easily-from-the-live-cd/
[01:02] <cntrational> _ath: what's going to happen that it'll become irrelavant
[01:02] <_ath> aretrfre34: yes.
[01:02] <aretrfre34> wanna fun
[01:03] <Typos_King> soadkombucha:  surely, that doesn't mean is debian based per se,but I see what you mean, either way, the libflashplayer.so drag/drop will work just the same :)
[01:03] <dominicdinada> soadkombucha: To each their own I hate vlc and totem as well
[01:03] <thune3> matt____: the partitions may have been automatically mounted when you plugged in the device. In this case you need  to unmount them first.
[01:03] <_ath> cntrational: the cost of manufacturing hardware is continuing on the same course it has been; not only that, higher level frameworks are, with extra resources, becoming excellent at handling them.
[01:03] <SlidingHorn> soadkombucha, Typos_King: You can also take a look at Chromium, which is in the repos -- in my *personal experience* it has worked better than the actual chrome
[01:03] <cntrational> one thing that annoys me about rhythmbox and exaile is that you can't play a single song, it has to be part of a playlist
[01:04] <hiexpo> did i miss much i was in pentoo
[01:04] <aretrfre34> _ath:a lot of reasonable people or i cant play real radio?
[01:04]  * Typos_King uses mainly Opera :)
[01:04] <soadkombucha> SlidingHorn: Chrome stable is working well. There is only one difference between Chrome and chromium. Well two.
[01:04] <_ath> cntrational: soon enough, for running Qt apps on windows, or kde apps on gnome, 'it uses up more memory' won't mean anything.
[01:04] <soadkombucha> SlidingHorn: Chrome and Chromium have a different colored logo, and Chrome has the google tracking app. Otherwise they're identical.
[01:04] <Vexille> Uboy: The steps should be similar to what you were using as a guide before, but this just uses the livecd to mount your hard drive and chroot to it so yo ucan perform the same steps as in the guide you posted
[01:04] <_ath> cntrational: and in a lot of cases, it does now.
[01:04] <soadkombucha> I need to compile enlightenment er17...
[01:04] <alasca> Typos_King,  Don't like Firefox?
[01:04] <_ath> aretrfre34: if you don't have a radio device, you cannot 'play' radio.
[01:04] <soadkombucha> alasca: In my experience firefox can hog resources.
[01:05] <hiexpo> is chrome better that firefox?
[01:05] <soadkombucha> hiexpo: Depends.
[01:05] <SlidingHorn> !best | hiexpo
[01:05] <_ath> aretrfre34:  i don't know how to simplify that any more.
[01:05] <SlidingHorn> :)
[01:05] <cntrational> Firefox doesn't take up that much resources if you restart it every now and then
[01:05] <soadkombucha> hiexpo: Chrome separates each tab into a separate process, so if you use LOTS of tabs, Chrome has benefits. It's Javascript is faster too.
[01:05] <Uboy> Vexille:  ok, I read that know and i got it, before it, can u answer a questuin >  I change a portion of file with this instruction> http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage  > is it my fault?
[01:05] <alasca> soadkombucha,  Yes, this is right...firefox is a bit greedy on resources...sadly...
[01:05] <cntrational> and try not to have a million tabs open
[01:05] <cntrational> (cursed tvtropes)
[01:05] <soadkombucha> hiexpo: But Opera 5 has benchmarked JS speed tests at 25% faster than Chromium 6 Developer
[01:05] <_ath> hiexpo: i've personally found chrome to run faster under nix and windows.
[01:05] <aretrfre34> _ath:got it, just wanted some fun, compiled for mplayer source rised core cpu 100C, isn't funny now!
[01:06] <hiexpo> SlidingHorn,  - don'tsend me the bot best   lol i knew that was gonna happen
[01:06] <Uboy> vexille: for configuring fingerprint sensor
[01:06] <Typos_King> alasca:   have it installed too, chrome/firefox lack the flexibility Opera has for a few things, window manipulations and other stuff, their beta1 10.6 is quite good
[01:06] <_ath> aretrfre34: then remove it and recompile it without that radio make flag.
[01:06] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: There is one thing I dislike about Chrome over Firefox.
[01:06] <_ath> aretrfre34: if you compiled it yourself you should probably know that.
[01:06] <coz_> cesc,   hey guy did you need something?
[01:06] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: Greasemonkey for firefox, the userscripts for chrome don't support unsignedwindow or the gm_* values. So you can't run ALL userscripts in chrome.
[01:06] <aretrfre34> _ath:noo, fun was to hack!
[01:07] <_ath> aretrfre34: then enjoy your short lived processor.
[01:07] <soadkombucha> Switching to Chrome
[01:08] <avelldiroll> in my experience chromium starts faster but hogs more ressources than firefox
[01:08] <dominicdinada> chrome is pretty fast under linux
[01:08] <hiexpo> !everyone | don't send me bot stuff i help here too looll
[01:08] <_ath> avelldiroll: agreed, under nix anyway, either way, i've found it performs faster on both nix / win platforms
[01:08] <soadkombucha> That's better.
[01:08] <_ath> unfortunately it doesn't quite have the plugin support firefox has.
[01:09] <_ath> which is probably the biggest deciding factor for most people to whom these things matter.
[01:09] <soadkombucha> _ath: Not completely true.
[01:09] <matt____> thune3: Thanks! That worked. Many thanks.
[01:09] <_ath> soadkombucha: what isn't.
[01:09] <soadkombucha> _ath: There are lots of plugins for Chrome that perform really nice functions
[01:09] <soadkombucha> _ath: And the extension gallery is growing fast
[01:09] <_ath> soadkombucha: yes, there are, but theres lots more for firefox, that perform better, most of the time.
[01:09] <_ath> soadkombucha: but we're in the present.
[01:09] <Typos_King> _ath:   and lacks configuration flexibility, I checked all available options, I think I can count them to less than 50 hehehe
[01:10] <soadkombucha> _ath: The only extensions I found to work better than firefox, are google extensions
[01:10] <_ath> soadkombucha: reread what i said.
[01:10] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: Pretty much everything lacks configuration flexibility over firefox's about:config
[01:10] <greezmunkey> Typos_King: have you looked at about:config within FF?
[01:10] <soadkombucha> Nothing is as configurable as Firefox
[01:11] <greezmunkey> soadkombucha:  :)
[01:11] <soadkombucha> greezmunkey: Trust me, I love Firefox, I actually converted almost everyone I know to it. But I'm a heavy tab user, so Chrome works better for me.
[01:11] <dominicdinada> _ath:  as for the plugin support FireFox is 7 years old and chrome really is like a year old from stable builds...
[01:11] <soadkombucha> dominicdinada: And developing more rapidly than firefox ever has
[01:12] <Typos_King> greezmunkey:   yes, doesn't compare to Opera's, opera has countless options, thus the flexibility I use :), doesn't hog the memory like FF and runs smooth enough, chrome uses less than half memory Opera does, but is  pretty configurationless
[01:12] <_ath> dominicdinada: correct. the question wasn't, 'what browser will be better in perhaps a year or two?'
[01:12] <_ath> dominicdinada: as i said, we're not time travellers, and we're arguing about the present state.
[01:12] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: But Chrome doesn't need too much configuration out of the box in my opinion.
[01:12] <dominicdinada> soadkombucha: Correct... so plugins are not all built for chrome but will be ported since FF is playing the catchup game :D
[01:12] <greezmunkey> well...that was fun
[01:12] <soadkombucha> dominicdinada: the browser war is becoming negligible anyways.
[01:13] <soadkombucha> The only browser I say don't use is any IE-based browser
[01:13] <Vexille> Uboy: I am unfamiliar with anything involving setting up fingerprint readers. The info there states it will try to read your fingerprint first before using your password, so if that is true then I imagine it isn't supposed to make your login stop working, but liek I said I am unfamiliar with is so who knows :(
[01:13] <_ath> soadkombucha: I'd also say don't use konqueror
[01:13] <duffydack> Since I got my fonts looking right (removing that damn ttf-msttfonts package) I`m using chromium
[01:13] <_ath> and i'm a kde fanboy.
[01:13] <soadkombucha> _ath: What engine does it run off of?
[01:13] <dominicdinada> soadkombucha: It is not a war as google and FF are allies, But when Chrome dropped it is the fastest thing out, and FF said they moving to a new javascript core
[01:13] <_ath> soadkombucha: christ knows, probably dolphin, the kde explorer.
[01:13] <_ath> it's kde's equivalent of IE.
[01:14] <Typos_King> soadkombucha:    depends on what you do, for plain browsing, no, true, for one thing, I have flash off, and turn it on whenever I need it, like for a clip or news ticker or other stuff, in Opera is just 2 clicks for that, there's no such in chrome/ff
[01:14] <dominicdinada> soadkombucha: Some websites still force IE :( but thats what plugins are for
[01:14] <duffydack> _ath, thats not a good advertisement
[01:14] <greezmunkey> heh
[01:14] <soadkombucha> _ath: Ahh. I like Nautilus
[01:14] <_ath> duffydack: from personal use i've found it to be a terrible browser.
[01:14] <aretrfre34> how do i get info about how old is cpu
[01:14] <kryl> hi
[01:14] <hiexpo> i'm sticking to firefox than
[01:14] <dominicdinada> _ath: imo dolphin is was to bloated,resource hungry
[01:14] <Typos_King> aretrfre34:  how old? what do you mean?
[01:14] <_ath> dominicdinada: can't agree with you there.
[01:15] <Knoxville>   how much memory do you reccomend for a caching only bind9 server for 2 users on a LAN?
[01:15] <N3VV3K> hey does anyone know hoow to turn off motion
[01:15] <soadkombucha> dominicdinada: Or you just use useragents
[01:15] <_ath> i was just saying konqueror is a shitty browser.
[01:15] <soadkombucha> konqueror is KHTML
[01:15] <N3VV3K> to turn it on was sudo motion how do i turn it off
[01:15] <soadkombucha> Google chrome and Safari are KHTML forks due to Webkit
[01:15] <duffydack> I`ll use Chromium daily.  It starts before I even de-press the mouse button and loads pages hella fast
[01:15] <soadkombucha> duffydack: I use Chrome, but that's because google owns my internet life and it integrates nicely with google
[01:16] <_ath> To those with ati driver experience, please have a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518556
[01:16] <dominicdinada> soadkombucha: When I was in school websites for the school and resources where based around IE for example the online blackboards. Cbtnuggets.com etc... would only work with IE
[01:16] <_ath> dominicdinada: cbtnuggets lol
[01:16] <soadkombucha> Haha
[01:16] <soadkombucha> I need to restart chrome
[01:16] <Typos_King> N3VV3K:    I guess I don't use 'motion', soooo dunno
[01:16] <cntrational> "cbtnuggets"? what's that
[01:16] <_ath> cntrational: it's a like, service that provides learning resources for technical subjects
[01:16] <_ath> cntrational: ie, 'passing your CCNA
[01:16] <_ath> '
[01:16] <duffydack> _ath, I have an ati 4650 working fine.. mates 36xx works fine too
[01:17] <cntrational> is it good
[01:17] <aretrfre34> Typos_King:i mean assembly time
[01:17] <Knoxville>   how much memory do you reccomend for a caching only bind9 server for 2 users on a LAN?v
[01:17] <dominicdinada> cntrational: some dumb videos our profs made us watch because the school paid like $20,000 per semester for use
[01:17] <_ath> duffydack: thanks for taking a look. and fuck.
[01:17] <IdleOne> !language | _ath
[01:17] <duffydack> _ath, tried xorg edgers ppa?
[01:17] <_ath> duffydack: yeah
[01:17] <Typos_King> aretrfre34:    get the name and model, you can find that online, the manufacturer's site or some other archive will have it
[01:17] <duffydack> _ath, and proposed repos
[01:18] <greezmunkey> I am looking around for a decent (free) radius server, one that isn't too much of a bother to setup and maintain. FreeRadius, and Radiator seem to be the two likely candidates, but I am looking for a recommendation from someone who has delt with them. Suggestions?
[01:18] <_ath> duffydack: for what? xorg?
[01:18] <cntrational> what's a radius server
[01:18] <duffydack> _ath, I get 3d accel without ati driver.. dont you?
[01:18] <Typos_King> aretrfre34:    we may even know too, what's the name and model or codename if any?
[01:18] <dominicdinada> cntrational: for those that no nothing it provides insight... for those who do it is a snooze
[01:18] <greezmunkey> cntrational: authentication server
[01:18] <N3VV3K> why would you say anything if you dont know <Typos_King>
[01:18] <duffydack> _ath, I mean its not quite as fast but its there.
[01:18] <N3VV3K> what do u  use anyway
[01:19] <cntrational> i use "you" instead of "u"
[01:19] <aretrfre34> Typos_King:name and model i know to
[01:20] <N3VV3K> so id this place just filled with assholes or actual help
[01:20] <dominicdinada> !language | N3VV3K
[01:20] <soadkombucha> Wow I love this Enlightenment tutorial... So easy to get it compiled and running
[01:20] <Typos_King> N3VV3K:     why would I say anything?   well, to ensure you're asking the right question, it happens, often times folks ask for 'other' things in extraneous fashion
[01:21] <dr4c4n> I just wanted to mention the issue I had with my dvd player earlier has been solved, but only by going back to version 9.04 without doing the updates.. I'm not sure which update breaks dvd playback.. but there is one..
[01:21] <NetScr1be> is this the right to set eth0 to dhcp? auto eth0 (CR LF) iface etho inet dynamic
[01:21] <cntrational> what's enlightenment
[01:21] <dr4c4n> how do I report a bug for this if i'm not sure which package or kernel update to report the bug on?
[01:21] <Typos_King> cntrational:     window manager
[01:21] <hiexpo> enlightment is a desktop
[01:21] <NetScr1be> right way
[01:21] <soadkombucha> hiexpo: Yup.
[01:21] <soadkombucha> cntrational: It's beta.
[01:22] <Typos_King> beta?
[01:22] <soadkombucha> cntrational: http://enlightenment.org/
[01:22] <vodl> hi, can I update my network manager on ubuntu 8.04 to the one found in 9.10 and later so I can visually edit networks?
[01:22] <Typos_King> version 5 I think is in beta, olders' aren't :P
[01:22] <sebsebseb> vodl: not easilly, and trying to might brake your system
[01:22] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: I'm installing e17
[01:22] <cesc> hi guys.. which button or button combination should I press to see all my windows side by side without overlapping?
[01:22] <sebsebseb> vodl: well your not meant to install from 9.10 repo
[01:23] <sebsebseb> vodl: why not just upgrade to 9.10,  it has untill  the end of April next year when it comes to support just like 8.04
[01:23] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: My friend's friend writes a blog, and he has a REALLY easy tutorial (plus a shell script) to get enlightenment running: http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2010/05/howto-install-e17-from-svnsource-on.html
[01:23] <dominicdinada> 8.04 LTS ranout didnt it :O
[01:23] <cntrational> by window manager, do you mean something like GNOME or X11?
[01:23] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: not yet
[01:23] <soadkombucha> dominicdinada: Shouldn't have it's only been 2 years
[01:23] <sebsebseb> vodl: for the desktop
[01:23] <soadkombucha> And some of the packages have 5 year support
[01:23] <hiexpo> pentoo uses an enlightment desktop as in referancce
[01:23] <sebsebseb> soadkombucha: only the server edition
 i need the 8.04 version of wine to run some window apps, that's what"s keeping me from upgrading
[01:24] <Typos_King> soadkombucha:    to get enlightment running? hehe, there's nothing to it AFAIK, I used to run it in SuSE10, no fuss, is a bit fancy window manager, is all
[01:24] <sebsebseb> vodl: Which Windows apps?
[01:24] <Adman65> how can I configure rsync? I don't have /etc/rsyncd.conf
[01:24] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: Well to install it from source.
[01:24] <vodl> adobe dreamweaver  and photoshop cs2
[01:24] <soadkombucha> Typos_King: Plus he took the time to give you ALL the dependencies you need to install
 adobe dreamweaver  and photoshop cs2
[01:24] <sebsebseb> vodl: you can install a earlier verison of Wine into 9.10, and those should work with the 9.10 version anyway
[01:25] <greezmunkey> cesc: check into X-Tile
[01:25] <Typos_King> soadkombucha:    .... well... hehe, is not a bad manager, is light too
[01:25] <cesc> a noob question: how to see all opened windows side by side (like a mosaic) without overlaping each other? which button should I press to get this?
[01:25] <sebsebseb> vodl: also when doing the upgrade if you tell it not to upgrade Wine
[01:25] <hiexpo> i think enlightment is gonna replace kde
[01:25] <sebsebseb> vodl: you can probably just use the 8.04 version in 9.10
[01:25]  * dominicdinada never used 8.04 but BT4 is 8.04 :)
 on winehq it says they run lousy under other versions than 8.04, or am I mistakenly interpreting that chart?
[01:26] <Baba_b00ie> in ubuntu 10.04, can i set it up to boot straight to Cli instead of GUI?
[01:26] <Typos_King> enlightment....who? kde what?
[01:26] <mdg> How do I tell what video card I have via CLI?
[01:26] <Typos_King> heheh
[01:26] <sebsebseb> vodl: if you mean appdb,  a lot of the info in appdb is out dated
[01:26] <Baba_b00ie> mdg, lspci -vvv | grep video
[01:26] <soadkombucha> Is there a program for Ubuntu that replaces the default copy manager? Similar to TeraCopy for Windows? I'm just curious linux doesn't need it but it'd be nice to know it was there
[01:26] <cesc> C'mon guys ... please answer my question
[01:27] <sebsebseb> vodl: also are you sure the network manager you want isn't in 9.04?
[01:27] <SlidingHorn> !patience | cesc
[01:27] <SlidingHorn> cesc -- also, greezmunkey already gave you a possible solution
[01:27] <Typos_King> mdg:     lshw -C video
[01:27] <delinquentme> anyone know what the command line tag is to allow the editor to close only the file which was OPENED
[01:27] <sebsebseb> vodl: 9.04 runs out of support end of  October
[01:27] <cesc> sorry, I'm new.
[01:27] <delinquentme> then return to the current location on the command line?
[01:28] <sebsebseb> vodl: anyway the later network manager or whatever it was, you can probably install that into 8.04 really
[01:28] <sebsebseb> vodl: a ppa or something possibily
 don't think so, i looked for it under preferences but there's no network connections there, just net tools
 http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=7694
[01:28] <supernothing> cesc: you can do this using compiz-fusion. if you install ccsm then you can get access to all the advanced settings
[01:28] <mdg> Baba_b00ie: thanks for responding, but the grep video part didn't work
[01:28] <Typos_King> delinquentme:   'the editor'? what editor?
[01:28] <Typos_King> mdg:     lshw -C video
 that's what I was ref. to
[01:28] <cntrational> Typos_King: gedit, probably
[01:29] <Typos_King> dunno, I use Geany, jEdit, and others
[01:29] <hiexpo> aloso need simple ccsm
[01:29] <supernothing> cesc: sorry, it's been renamed. now it's called compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:29] <delinquentme> gedit
[01:29] <patx> what packages do i need to install if i need to run a "python setup.py install" script?
[01:29] <Baba_b00ie> mdg, yeah i know, it's wrong command. i wanted to say lshw -C video
[01:29] <delinquentme> im talking about w like git... i thought it was -f
[01:29] <delinquentme> IE
[01:29] <supernothing> or simple ccsm works too
[01:29] <delinquentme> git config --global core.editor gedit -f
[01:30] <Typos_King> delinquentme:    .... can't say, many keybindings use ctrl-w though :)
[01:30] <mdg> thanks Typos_King - that's awesome
[01:30] <dominicdinada> cesc: Compizconfig is buggy from my exp
[01:30] <delinquentme> heh
[01:30] <dominicdinada> cesc: very bugggy
[01:30] <spazdor> So I'm trying to chmod a device file in order to give raw access to it. specifically I want to let a non-root user run VirtualBox, using a .vmdk file that links to a real physical partition.
[01:30] <delinquentme> quality help
[01:30] <sebsebseb> vodl: How much RAM do you have?
[01:30] <supernothing> cesc: by default, the command to show all windows expo style is <super> w
 2gb ram
[01:31] <spazdor> The problem is, whenever I chmod the device file /dev/sda1, my changes are always reverted a few minutes later
[01:31] <sebsebseb> vodl: and you got a Windows CD yeah? which version?
[01:31] <spazdor> i assume this is some sort of anti-rootkit behaviour. can it be suppressed?
[01:31] <supernothing> delinquentme: i havent had any issues with it really, other than that it takes a bit to figure out what all the settings do
[01:31] <nonix4> How to diagnose ethernet which seems to be in receive-only state? eth0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> RX packets:56 TX packets:0
[01:31] <vodl> windows xp pro something
[01:31] <sebsebseb> spazdor: anti rootkit stuff probably not
[01:32] <sebsebseb> vodl: ok
[01:32] <sebsebseb> vodl: now if you set up a Windows virtual machine properly in Virtualbox, it will probably work quite well  for your two apps
 http://i524.photobucket.com/albums/cc322/Skeleton_Eel/forums_topics/free_vpn/vpn_connections.png
 that's the network manager i'm referring to
[01:32] <Typos_King> nonix4:   diagnose?    seems to me you already have a diagnosis :)
[01:32] <soadkombucha> Flash crashed when I was installing dependency packages
[01:33] <sebsebseb> !virtualbox | vodl
[01:33] <dominicdinada> sebsebseb: is that possible with only 1 gig of ram ? To run say dreamweaver/ulead  ? since this was my problem earlier. Darn blocked bits
[01:33] <spazdor> perhaps it's just a properdy of udev files? Is there any way to make permission/ownership changes in /dev/ persistent?
[01:33] <_ath> To those with ati driver experience, please have a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518556
[01:33] <sebsebseb> vodl:  Both versiosn are free as in price,  open source version from repo lacks USB support,  other version from website/server has it, and you can set that up.
[01:33] <nonix4> Typos_King: as in further than that... it receives (w/ tcpdump) but never seems to send a single packet. Is that software or hardware issue?
[01:33] <cesc> thanks for all your replies.
[01:33] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: with 1GB RAM probably just about
[01:33] <Uboy> hey guys
[01:33] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: I mean without thinks being to slow
[01:34] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: and if its XP
[01:34] <sebsebseb> with 2GB RAM like what vodl has,  more likely to get better performance :)
[01:34] <krazykrivda> every time i attempt to mount a partiion hardrive i get it read only.. how can I mount a partition os I can move files to iit
[01:34] <dominicdinada> sebsebseb: Because MY question earlier today was why Wine is blocking all my apps from installing such as PHP Nusphere, Ulead etc...
[01:34] <soadkombucha> krazykrivda: What's the filesystem?
[01:34] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: without things being  really slow, above
 no go, it's vital to me that I run dreamweaver non-native for security reasons [ 50% the reason i moved to linux, the other 50 was constant re-installing of windoze]
[01:34] <krazykrivda> soadkombucha: /dev/sda7
[01:35] <dominicdinada> sebsebseb: this is a ummm free back to life laptop I just use for odds and ends
[01:35] <osmodivs>  me what does this means?
[01:35] <osmodivs> W: Error de GPG: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release Las firmas siguientes no se pudieron verificar porque su llave pública no está disponible: NO_PUBKEY<PHONE_NUMBER>C3C104
[01:35] <sebsebseb> vodl: right, but 8.04 will run out of support end of April next year
[01:35] <sebsebseb> vodl: on the desktop
[01:35] <soadkombucha> krazykrivda: No partition type
[01:35] <osmodivs> Public key not found
[01:35] <krazykrivda> fat32 i believe
 what does that mean?
[01:35] <SlidingHorn> vodl: maybe I'm just ignorant on this, but what effect does that have on security?
[01:35] <wajimba> anyone know of a good, easy to install vnc server?
[01:35] <SlidingHorn> !eol | vodl
[01:35] <sebsebseb> vodl: End of Life no more security updates
[01:36] <sebsebseb> SlidingHorn: I was thinking about doing that
[01:36] <thune3> _ath: i don't have experience, but the logs seem to complain that the xorg.conf is wrong. did try using "/usr/bin/aticonfig --initial" (not sure syntax) to get a basic xorg.conf?
[01:36] <Typos_King> nonix4:  has to be software..... almost like a firewall rule or something....you can always use something like 'WireShark' to check the connection interface further -> http://www.qweas.com/downloads/network/other/scr-wireshark.png
[01:36] <sebsebseb> vodl: now if you knew what you were doing, you could actsaully maintain it quite well yourself, but  you still woudn't be able to get support from this channel anymore for 8.04
[01:36] <soadkombucha> krazykrivda: It should be readable
[01:36] <_ath> thune3: that is using aticonfig --initiak
[01:36] <_ath> *initial
[01:37] <krazykrivda> soadkombucha: i know that.. btu it is not.. what shoudl i do
 there's a new family of viruses that tap ftp clients on windows xp and leak passes and such
[01:37] <aretrfre34> how to broadcast connection like wifi router in ubuntu
[01:37] <dominicdinada> vodl: I only have had windoze go down on me once ever... I just dont get how people can allow any computer to become that over-run with viruses/trojans, faulty apps
[01:37] <sebsebseb> vodl: I think you meant to send that to SlidingHorn
[01:37] <sebsebseb> and yes there are many security issues when it comes to Windows
[01:37] <SlidingHorn> vodl: I think your last statement was for me -- oh, I see :)
[01:37] <soadkombucha> krazykrivda: Hold on
[01:38] <Uboy> I can't change my pass, I use grub in recovery mode and it didnt completed, then I use Live Ubuntu Disk and mk dir in /media/sda1 > mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1/ > chroot /media/sda1   > then use this command: passwd myusername   >  then insert the password two times  and then restart PC after see the Line: Password Updated Successfuly  ,  (login configured in auto without pass) when I try to type and run any command in terminal with sudo i have the last problem
[01:38] <soadkombucha> krazykrivda: try chmod +w /dev/sda7
[01:38] <soadkombucha> in terminal
 got bugged myself so decided to go the absolute safest way and install linux and run any ftps on linux
[01:38] <hiexpo> rem this is not windows
[01:38] <nonix4> Typos_King: well, the NO-CARRIER in "ip addr list" also suggests issues deeper than firewall... kinda weird that it can receive while having NO-CARRIER state though...
[01:38] <sebsebseb> vodl: really running a Windows install online is quite the security risk, but most users have no idea
[01:38] <Typos_King> dominicdinada:   pebkac, I've run win32 box just as well, in 14years or so, I may have gotten a whopping 5 or so malicious stuff,
still would really need that network manager
[01:39] <sebsebseb> vodl: ok i'll look at the screenshot hold on
[01:39] <Uboy> guys help me plz!
[01:39] <Uboy> :'(
[01:39] <soadkombucha> krazykrivda: Lemme know if that works
 for use with a vpn, setting it up manually is nightmare-ish [ for me at least]
[01:39] <vodl> uboy what's wrong?
[01:39] <krazykrivda> soadkombucha: chmod: changing permissions of `/media/FILES': Read-only file system
[01:39] <Uboy> vodl:  I can't change my pass, I use grub in recovery mode and it didnt completed, then I use Live Ubuntu Disk and mk dir in /media/sda1 > mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1/ > chroot /media/sda1   > then use this command: passwd myusername   >  then insert the password two times  and then restart PC after see the Line: Password Updated Successfuly  ,  (login configured in auto without pass) when I try to type and run any command in terminal with sudo i have the last
[01:39] <dominicdinada> sebsebseb: every OS has their share of security problems. This is something that I hear from Mac users they cant get viruses etc. But that is very untrue, Windows has 90% of the worlds computers so it only makes sense to attack the easiest prey as linux and macs become even more common place you can be so will problems
[01:39] <hiexpo> Uboy,  if none answers your ? ask again in 15 or so
[01:41] <dominicdinada> Typos_King: I get malicious stuff from websites and other things alike I just notice the signs and take care of it right away. I mean you dont drive your car until the engine seizes with out servicing it :D
[01:41] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: there is always the market share excuse, and I never said that Linux distros are immune from malware
[01:41] <vodl> uboy: sorry, never had pass problems, best of luck :)
[01:41] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: they do happen to be immune from Windows malware though
[01:41] <dominicdinada> sebsebseb: Very true :D
[01:41] <sebsebseb> !virus
[01:41] <zenlunatic> everytime i peak in here its debate
[01:41] <SlidingHorn> dominicdinada, (if i'm not ignored anymore) I find the whole "market share based security" argument to be flawed.  I'm sure that it would be more targeted if it did have a larger share, however, there are features of most linux systems that are inherently more secure than a windows system (no auto admin, open source -- lots of eyes to find/fix holes, etc)
[01:41] <sebsebseb> vodl: you can install  uhmm
[01:41] <osmodivs> then, why is there an Antivirus in the Ubuntu repository?
[01:41] <sebsebseb> vodl: well thats part of Gnome
[01:42] <hiexpo> Uboy,  this is not A paid channel everyome just helps to help out others
[01:42] <soadkombucha> krazykrivda: Can you touch it?
[01:42] <krazykrivda> soadkombucha: so it still doesn't work
[01:42] <krazykrivda> soadkombucha: read only
[01:42] <soadkombucha> krazykrivda: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/28502-chmod-w-doesnt-work-vfat-partition.html
 should i look for it in synaptic?
[01:42] <sebsebseb> vodl: you could install a later version of Gnome yourself, and maybe just the network manager
[01:42] <dominicdinada> sebsebseb: but using a linux server for windows file sharing  will help windows viruses propagate :D
[01:42] <Uboy> hiexpo: are you have problem with me?
[01:42] <sebsebseb> vodl: also since your on 8.04,  you get the option of KDE 3 or KDE 4 from the repo
[01:42] <sebsebseb> vodl: both of which will have a similar program
[01:43] <sebsebseb> vodl: I mean you could try both KDE 3 and 4
[01:43] <frank82vt> why doesnt appear the distribution ubuntu 8.10  intrepid ibex as an option in  http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ?
[01:43] <sebsebseb> vodl: and as far as I know in those versions there is a similar program, but yeah thats a differnet look
[01:43] <ne7work> hello all
[01:43] <hiexpo> Uboy,  nope
[01:43] <ne7work> please someone tell me how to compile alsa on ubuntu 9.04?
[01:43] <sebsebseb> !8.10 | frank82vt
[01:44] <dominicdinada> SlidingHorn: Some time Ago on a number of security sites packetstorm, beehive, securityfocus alike were showing like 300 new malicious threats for windows while say macs had 20
[01:44] <resno> im looking to automate virtualbox virutal machine starting and stopping. should i write a cron using @restart?
 not a fashion critic anyway, so I'll try them out
[01:44] <sebsebseb> vodl: KDE 3 is rather nice
[01:44] <sebsebseb> vodl: nice and mature been around for years
[01:44] <ne7work> please someone tell me how to compile alsa on ubuntu 9.04?
[01:44] <sebsebseb> vodl: on the verge of deiing, well some people are still working on it
[01:44] <Uboy> hiexpo, this IRC channel is for Ubuntu and we all using that dist. it is usual to ask questiotion, so what for u say> (05:12:00 AM) hiexpo: Uboy,  this is not A paid channel everyome just helps to help out others
[01:44] <sebsebseb> vodl: not upstream KDE though, they are doing KDE 4
 do i need to install kde desktop or can I stick to gnome desktop and just run that manager?
[01:45] <frank82vt> well i just want search packagues only for intrepid in http://packages.ubuntu.com/ so that distribution doesnt appear as option. why?
[01:45] <sebsebseb> vodl: you can maybe just install that manager yourself some how,  or upgrade Gnome yourself to a later version which isn't really supported by Ubuntu
[01:45] <bp0> how long will it take for the new vlc to appear?
[01:45] <de_deb> I am trying to install ubuntu onto my external usb hdd from virtual box in xp
[01:45] <hiexpo> Uboy,  if i souned rude sorry
[01:46] <sebsebseb> vodl: or you could install KDE 3 and 4 and see if they got something like what you want,  I think they do
[01:46] <Uboy> hiexpo pleasure
[01:46] <de_deb> but I am having trouble making virtual box recognize my usb hdd as an hdd
[01:46] <sebsebseb> vodl: and then you just select the session and log in to the one you want from log in screen
[01:46] <sebsebseb> vodl: and one will be the default.
[01:47] <cesc> how to make ubuntu to shut down at a specific time?
[01:47] <sebsebseb> vodl: seems a bit silly in a way though, to install the whole of KDE 3 or 4 or both, just for a network manager
[01:47] <Uboy> vodl: it means i don't have any way to change my pass?
[01:47] <sebsebseb> !info ghutdown
[01:47] <sebsebseb> !info gshutdown
[01:47] <sebsebseb> cesc: there ^
[01:47] <cesc> thanks
[01:47] <frank82vt> well i just want search packagues only for intrepid in http://packages.ubuntu.com/ so that distribution doesnt appear as option. why?
[01:47] <sebsebseb> cesc: np
 alrighty I'll see what i have available here, many thanks:)
[01:48] <SlidingHorn> dominicdinada, btw, I'm sorry if I came across as rude earlier.  Just wanted to make sure you were pointed somewhere that would have more focused expertise to your issue :)  -- and I got a little defensive afterward
[01:48] <sebsebseb> vodl: and if you look around on uhmm
[01:48] <dominicdinada> cesc: sudo shutdown -h (min)
[01:48] <sebsebseb> vodl: sf.net freshmeat.net maybe there is some alternative one you can install,  in fact I guess even xubuntu has one
[01:48] <de_deb> plz anyone
[01:49] <kostkon> frank82vt, http://old.releases.ubuntu.com/
[01:49] <kostkon> !eol | frank82vt
[01:49] <IvanOoze|Opiates> How can I add my music to my ipod touch 2nd gen?
[01:49] <sebsebseb> vodl: again xubuntu/xfce is in the 8.04 repo
[01:49] <dominicdinada> SlidingHorn: Actually sebsebseb pointed out I could virtualbox windows and run my programs since wine seems to blockbit so many apps
[01:49] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: Depends on RAM, and  which programs, how well a vm works or does not work
[01:49] <IvanOoze|Opiates> How can I add my music to my ipod touch 2nd gen?
[01:49] <SlidingHorn> dominicdinada, sebsebseb good idea :)
[01:50] <aretrfre34> how do hookup laptop with table via wifi?
[01:50] <frank82vt> thanks kostkon and ubottu
[01:50] <soadkombucha> Okay I know why Amarok isn't working it's a Phonon error
[01:50] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: and to some extent other hardware, for example at the moment they tend to suck for Windows 3D gaming, but support is getting there slowly
[01:50] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: however for pretty much anything else, they will be fine
[01:50] <aretrfre34> sorry, how do I hookup laptop with tablet via wifi?
 I have something called "network-manager" installed in synaptic, how do I find out what's the console command to run it?
[01:50] <aretrfre34> laptop with table, funny :)
[01:51] <resno> im looking to automate virtualbox virutal machine starting and stopping. should i write a cron using @restart?
[01:51] <dominicdinada> sebsebseb: my purposes are just dreamweaver/Nusphere php,  ulead
[01:51] <sebsebseb> vodl: network-manager and open it from the terminal
[01:51] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: uhmm you don't need Wine for PHP
[01:51] <Agu10> hi
[01:51] <sebsebseb> !lamp | dominicdinada
[01:51] <dominicdinada> sebsebseb: no but the editors i use
 um...come again?
[01:51] <Agu10> how can I start some program in the second virtual desktop on startup?
[01:51] <sebsebseb> vodl: you can type in the name of a proccess/program/package in the terminal hit enter and open
[01:52] <krazykrivda> Any partition i mount in ubuntu is all of a sudden read only, both swap and vfat.. it was working with fstab, I have changed nothing and now it doesn't work
[01:52] <sebsebseb> cesc: ok you didn't need to pm that
[01:52] <Agu10> I need to run some app on a specific virtual desktop on startup
[01:52] <vodl> paul@paul:~$ network-manager
[01:52] <vodl> bash: network-manager: command not found
[01:52] <aretrfre34> dedicated: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1518570
[01:52] <sebsebseb> cesc: however yeah this is what you want
[01:52] <sebsebseb> cesc:  system > administration > terminal
[01:52] <dominicdinada> sebsebseb: I actually removed the LAMP package as for development purposes for me it is not practical to keep having to update the sites. So I switched to the Apachefriends for linux package
[01:52] <sebsebseb> cesc: then do this
doesn't seem to work
[01:52] <sebsebseb> cesc: sudo apt-get install gshutdown
[01:52] <k-rad> unbreakable
[01:53] <sebsebseb> !pm > cesc
[01:53] <dominicdinada> cesc: you can ALSO do "sudo shutdown -h (min)"
[01:53] <aretrfre34> ubottu: wifi
[01:53] <dominicdinada> cesc: sudo shutdown -h 10
[01:53] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: hes a noob
[01:53] <hiexpo> haha
[01:53] <cesc> thanks everybody for helping me.
[01:53] <sebsebseb> hiexpo: well thats what I was told
[01:54] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada: anyway so if you want to explain what that does to them, sure go a head
[01:54] <sebsebseb> dominicdinada:  or maybe its enough to know that it shut down, and not what the command means
[01:54] <dominicdinada> cesc: just type ( shutdown from your terminal and it will tell you how to reboot or turn off or whatever )
[01:54] <dominicdinada> sebsebseb: heh
[01:55] <hiexpo> sebsebseb,  ok i am lost on reading up oops lol
[01:55] <sebsebseb> !pm > Uboy
[01:55] <sebsebseb> !ask | Uboy
 network-manager doesn't work in terminal, any ideas?
[01:56] <Uboy> sebsebseb here or private?
[01:56] <sebsebseb> Uboy:  here I guess
[01:56] <Uboy> ok
[01:56] <sebsebseb> Uboy: plus if you ask here and I don't know, someone else may know
[01:56] <omani> i have no beep in virtual terminals
[01:56] <omani> tty1-7 yes. but not in X
[01:57] <resno> omani: try modprobe pcspkr
[01:57] <omani> pcspkr module is loaded
[01:57] <dominicdinada> vodl: ummm is it typically a static wifi connection ? take the time to write you interfaces and wpa_supplicant files
[01:57] <Uboy> sebsebseb I can't change my pass, I use grub in recovery mode and it didnt completed, then I use Live Ubuntu Disk and mk dir in /media/sda1 > mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1/ > chroot /media/sda1   > then use this command: passwd myusername   >  then insert the password two times  and then restart PC after see the Line: Password Updated Successfuly  ,  (login configured in auto without pass) when I try to type and run any command in terminal with sudo i have the la
[01:57] <resno> omani: you need to enable them in settings/prefrences?
[01:57] <omani> when i start X i can hear it, but then, something happens and my beep is gone
[01:57] <omani> resno, where in lucid is the preference for that?
[01:57] <dominicdinada> vodl: Like always your home or work ?
[01:57] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok re setting a user account password is easy
[01:58] <sebsebseb> Uboy: get the recovery mode and the root shell in it
[01:58] <thune3> _ath: the only thing related i see is http://forums.opensuse.org/get-help-here/hardware/435380-ati-radeon-5670-fglrx-problem-opensuse-11-2-x64.html , where the problem ended up being a bios/on-board-graphics/pci-address issue. I might recommend commenting out the BusID line, and try to let fglrx try to find the device.
[01:58] <sebsebseb> Uboy: then do.  passwd your username
[01:58] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and put in the new password twice
[01:58] <dominicdinada> passwd Uboy googler googler
[01:58] <k-rad> anyone need help ?
[01:58] <omani> resno, where is that?
[01:59] <CrazyHyena> Hello, I am trying to compile a program using gcc-4.2 and g++-4.2. GCC/++-4.4 is currently linked to g++ and gcc. I use CC=gcc-4.2 and CPP=g++-4.2 as environment variables before using ./configure, but says that gcc-4.2 fails sanity check... if I link gcc and g++ to 4.2, then it works. why would it not work with a variable?
[01:59] <Uboy> sebsebseb: Yes I get the recovery mode with change the GRUB option but the grub doesnt enter in recovery uption to select the Root mode!
[01:59] <sebsebseb> Uboy: oh it won't boot up recovery mode?
[01:59] <Uboy> sebsebseb yes
[01:59] <Uboy> :'(
[01:59] <sebsebseb> vodl: try KDE or something,  I am not so sure what is the best way to help you
[01:59] <sebsebseb> vodl: or try to
http://www.ubuntugeek.com/wicd-wired-and-wireless-network-manager-for-ubuntu.html found the manager
[02:00] <resno> omani: try checking sound options
[02:00] <Sa[i]nT> What is the tool ubuntu uses to make a book usb?
[02:00] <sebsebseb> Uboy: Which version of Ubuntu?
[02:00] <omani> resno, i dont have any internal speaker / pc speaker option in lucid
[02:00] <sebsebseb> !usb | Sa[i]nT
[02:00] <Uboy> sebsebseb 10.04 LTS lucid
[02:00] <dominicdinada> vodl: that is not the default manager :D but it is a good one
[02:00] <sebsebseb> Sa[i]nT: Unetbottin
[02:01] <sebsebseb> Uboy: clean install or?
 after I added the repo I get this error: W: GPG error: http://apt.wicd.net hardy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY FEC820F4B8C0755A
[02:01] <cesc> which dictionary would you recommend me to allow me to select a word while surffing on the www and get the definition on a pop-up window or even the translation into another language? English is not my mother-language so sometimes I get words which I don't understand. That would be very handy for me.
[02:01] <Uboy> sebsebseb: what u meaning af clean install?
[02:01] <sebsebseb> Uboy: a new install of Ubuntu?
[02:02] <Uboy> sebsebse yes
[02:02] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok
[02:02] <vodl>  <dominicdinada> how do I add a key?
[02:02] <Uboy> sebsebseb and the Hard disk was row!
[02:02] <sebsebseb> Uboy: There is bound to be another way to fix this, but it would probably be easier to just clean install
[02:02] <sebsebseb> Uboy: row ?
[02:03] <Uboy> sebsebseb I mean that before i start install install I erase all of my hard and format that and creat all partition with installation of linux
[02:03] <sebsebseb> Uboy: right yeah
[02:03] <sebsebseb> Uboy: so not data on there that you want?
[02:03] <Lostwf> Hello
[02:03] <Uboy> no
[02:04] <Guest31698> hey everyone. :)  hope you are all doing well.... would someone possible be able to help me with a printer issue?
[02:04] <ne7work> please someone tell me how to compile alsa on ubuntu 9.04?
[02:04] <sebsebseb> Uboy: well then clean install I guess.  also a tip for operating system installs, make sure the CD is good,  so  when it comes to Linux distros make sure your ISO is good, check it
[02:04] <Uboy> sebsebseb no and I creat back up from package by APTonCD
[02:04] <sebsebseb> !md5sum
[02:04] <sebsebseb> !hashes
[02:05] <sebsebseb> ubottu: ok I haven't used APTonCD  before, or have I hrm
[02:05] <Uboy> yeah a Disk is DVD and bought from good shop center
[02:05] <sebsebseb> indeed you are just a bot, a female bot that isn't intelligent, that was meant to go to Uboy  silly messing up of auto complete
[02:05] <sebsebseb> !gender
[02:06] <Uboy> sebsebseb ok APTonCD just back up all package.
[02:06] <thune3> cesc: hyperwords is a firefox plugin that does something like what you describe
[02:06] <Uboy> sebsebseb ybottu is bot, it do'snt me!
[02:06] <sebsebseb> Uboy: Whats that?
[02:07] <cesc> thanks thune3 gonna check it
[02:07] <Lostwf> Can any one point me to where i can find the pool for maverick meerkat? I have tried archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu and I still need 214 files to complete my iso
[02:07] <ahmedkotb> i really need help
[02:07] <sebsebseb> !meverick | Lostwf
[02:07] <LJRuff> !ask | ahmedkotb
[02:07] <Uboy> I don't khow, but i know this bot is a program written fot IRC (automatic IRC Robat)
[02:07] <dominicdinada> vodl: I was afk But i dont use Wcid anymore i believe you go under properties
[02:07] <sebsebseb> !maverick | Lostwf
[02:07] <dominicdinada> !wcid
[02:08] <ahmedkotb> i have just deleted all my home partition by accident ....
[02:08] <dominicdinada> !wicd
[02:08] <ahmedkotb> :
[02:08] <ahmedkotb> :(
[02:08] <Uboy> sebsebseb I don't khow, but i know this bot is a program written fot IRC (automatic IRC Robat)
[02:08] <ahmedkotb> from the terminal
[02:08] <ahmedkotb> using the rm command with the -R flag
[02:08] <omani> where is the preference for internal speaker / pc speaker in lucid lynx
[02:08] <Uboy> sebsebseb so what can I do except Reinstalling Ubuntu?
[02:08] <Lostwf> !maverick
[02:09] <Lostwf> Thanks ubotto
[02:09] <LJRuff> ahmedkotb, How did you do that???
[02:09] <ahmedkotb> i was just deleting a single file
[02:10] <Uboy> Every Body Khows > ubotto is BOT
[02:10] <ahmedkotb> but i pressed enter before completting the path
[02:10] <Uboy> sebsebseb?
[02:10] <ahmedkotb> ~
[02:10] <Uboy> sebsebseb u gone?
[02:10] <ahmedkotb> without completing
[02:10] <ahmedkotb> so it deleted all the contents of home
[02:10] <sebsebseb> Uboy: nah still here
[02:10] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: ok why were you doing home stuff?
[02:10] <ahmedkotb> feeling really stupid to make such mistake :(
[02:10] <LJRuff> ahmedkotb, with recursive options?
[02:10] <LJRuff> = ?
[02:10] <ahmedkotb> i just wanted to delete a folder
[02:11] <wise_crypt> ahmedkotb: sudo mkdir /home/yourusername/
[02:11] <sebsebseb> wise_crypt: stop
[02:11] <ahmedkotb> how can i restore the files ?
[02:11] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: right yeah
[02:11] <sinnedam> hey guys..my firefox browser seems laggy..like video wise when scrolling for instance..is this normal for Ubuntu?
[02:11] <sebsebseb> wise_crypt: lets not get his hard disk over written and such
[02:11] <LJRuff> wise_crypt, that won't restore the lost files...
[02:11] <Uboy> sebsebseb ok
[02:11] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: ok if the partition is really gone
[02:12] <ahmedkotb> the partition is there
[02:12] <wise_crypt> LJRuff: but he won't reinstall ubuntu ?
[02:12] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: you can probably restore most or all of the data using test disk
[02:12] <Uboy> sebsebseb so what can i do except Reinstalling Ubuntu?
[02:12] <ahmedkotb> and the home folder is there
[02:12] <ahmedkotb> but all the configuration files where lost
[02:12] <ahmedkotb> and ofcourse my files
[02:12] <LJRuff> wise_crypt, reinstalling is just as bad. He needs to restore the files if he can. There's some packages that do that.
[02:12] <ahmedkotb> i have tried scalple
[02:12] <ahmedkotb> scalpel
[02:12] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: hrm I think test disk only works on partitions that have actsauly been deleted
[02:13] <sebsebseb> !testdisk
[02:13] <ahmedkotb> but it restores certain files only
[02:13] <sebsebseb> !info testdisk
[02:13] <Uboy> sebsebseb
[02:13] <Uboy> answer!
[02:13] <omani> !info pc speaker
[02:13] <Uboy> plz
[02:13] <wise_crypt> LJRuff: then testdisk
[02:13] <sebsebseb> Uboy: you can mess around with Grub 2
[02:13] <sebsebseb> Uboy: which won't be fun at all
[02:14] <sebsebseb> Uboy: well the old version wasn't as bad to mess around with
[02:14] <ahmedkotb> should i try test desk ?
[02:14] <Uboy> sebsebseb how?
[02:14] <thune3> sinnedam: with compiz enabled, i had to turn off smoothscroll in ubuntu because it looked terrible. i don't have great hardware.
[02:14] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and you can change the boot menu, and then maybe the recovery mode will load up
[02:14] <thune3> sinnedam: smoothscroll in firefox, that is
[02:14] <wise_crypt> !info testdisk | ahmedkotb
[02:14] <sebsebseb> Uboy: easier to re install, than mess around with Grub 2 really
[02:14] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | Uboy
[02:14] <sinnedam> ill check those settings thanks guys
[02:15] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: got another computer?
[02:15] <ahmedkotb> yes
[02:15] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: and you got Ubuntu Live CD yeah?
[02:15] <sinnedam> well crap where are the smooth scroll settings at?
[02:15] <ahmedkotb> actually no :(
[02:15] <bruenig> grub is not that hard, just follow instructions like anything else
[02:16] <sebsebseb> bruenig: well it is for Ubuntu newbies and such
[02:16] <cellofellow> grub2 makes more sense than grub1 ever did.
[02:16] <sebsebseb> cellofellow: Grub Legacy  was really easy to configure for basic stuff
[02:17] <LJRuff> sebsebseb, When you've been in the Unix-like family for so long you forget. "zomg! You can't hardcode and compile a kernel by hand?" =P
[02:17] <thune3> sinnedam: Firefox Edit>Prefs>Advanced
[02:17] <cellofellow> In grub1, /boot/grub/menu.lst was actually two files, one of which configured the other one.
[02:17] <Uboy> sebsebseb Installing and using of GRUB 2 needs root password and my pass doesn't work!
[02:17] <cellofellow> well, not really two files, but it behaved that way.
[02:17] <sebsebseb> Uboy: no
[02:17] <sebsebseb> Uboy: you already have Grub 2
[02:17] <sebsebseb> Uboy: its the program that boots up Ubuntu
[02:17] <Uboy> sebsebseb i know , so....?
[02:17] <juggalo483> how do i install java
[02:17] <Uboy> sebsebseb the last way?
[02:17] <sinnedam> ok smooth scroll is turned off...so are you saying i need to turn it on?
[02:17] <sebsebseb> bruenig: if you want to  try and help Uboy feel free
[02:18] <sebsebseb> Uboy: tell people your issue, others may be able to help
[02:18] <wise_crypt> !java | juggalo483
[02:18] <Uboy> ok.
[02:18] <Uboy> sebsebseb tnx
[02:18] <Uboy> juggalo483 which version?
[02:18] <LJRuff> Uboy, please explain your issue in as much detail as possible so we can all appraise it and provide any help.
[02:18] <sebsebseb> Uboy: if it had been the old Grub,  I would have been able to help you more right now
[02:19] <juggalo483> uboy: newest
[02:19] <sebsebseb> juggalo483: uhmm?
[02:19] <smuggles> how do i install a kernel module?
[02:19] <smuggles> i need modprobe
[02:19] <smuggles> i mean tun
[02:19] <thune3> sinnedam: no. you can leave it off. up scroll and downscroll are still "juddery" for me, still
[02:19] <wise_crypt> smuggles: i use kernelcheck to do that
[02:19] <Uboy> sebsebseb i explain every think i see
[02:19] <mdg> In Lucid, what kind of video cards work/work the best?
[02:19] <soadkombucha> So I just wrote a script that assumes the realtek audio drivers are extracted and that the package folder is in ~/ I'm hoping it works...
[02:19] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: ok back to you
[02:19] <wise_crypt> smuggles: http://kcheck.sourceforge.net/
[02:20] <ahmedkotb> no problem
[02:20] <ahmedkotb> welcome back
[02:20] <Uboy> sebsebseb ask me i answer
[02:20] <queso> In Rhythmbox, how do I turn off the new song growl notification that fades in/out at the upper right of the screen?
[02:20] <soadkombucha> Can anyone check a script for me to make sure that it would work if I uploaded the code to pastebin?
[02:20] <sebsebseb> Uboy: no tell the other people in this channel, what your trying to do
[02:20] <sebsebseb> Uboy: since they missed it when you told me
[02:20] <ahmedkotb> sebsebseb,  it is totally my mistake i know that
[02:20] <Agu10> how can I install alltray on ubuntu 10.04 ?
[02:21] <Agu10> it's not in the sources :S
[02:21] <ahmedkotb> sebsebseb, and the bigger mistake is that i didnt do backups :(
[02:21] <devian> Hello
[02:21] <LJRuff> !hi | devian
[02:21] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: ok not a big deal
[02:21] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: data is still there, untill the hard disk overwrites it
[02:21] <ahmedkotb> i know that
[02:21] <LJRuff> queso, I know it's in the preferences under rhythmbox.
[02:21] <wajimba> how do I set up a VNC server?
[02:21] <LJRuff> !rhythmbox | queso
[02:21] <ahmedkotb> but how can i extract it
[02:21] <LJRuff> Oops... that's not it
[02:21] <sebsebseb> !vnc > wajimba
[02:21] <wise_crypt> ahmedkotb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[02:22] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: you can download the test disk Live CD
[02:22] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: or  Ubuntu Live CD install test disk on it and use it from that
[02:22] <Uboy> sebsebseb all of people here and in forum and... can't help me! if this is linux, so we must not reinstall it and this is exactly diffrence between both
[02:22] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: and it should get hold of all/most of your data, however it seems the partiton has to actsaully been deleted first from the partition table, before that worsk
[02:22] <mdg> Anyone know what an "init" error of 4 is?
[02:22] <soadkombucha> Who was asking about alltray?
[02:22] <devian> Thks but i am also new at this
[02:22] <soadkombucha> Agu10: http://ftp.debian.org/pool/main/a/alltray/
[02:22] <soadkombucha> Agu10: Download the .deb file for your system
[02:22] <queso> LJRuff: oh, it was in the plugins area.
[02:22] <sebsebseb> Uboy: how new are you to Ubuntu?
[02:23] <Uboy> sebsebseb between linux and windows
[02:23] <LJRuff> Uboy, please explain your issue in as much detail as possible so we can all help you
[02:23] <jsec> Hi all. Battery life indicator on my laptop has been reading 0% even after a full charge for about a month now. Anybody know what may cause this? Searching the forums doesn't really yield any results.
[02:23] <sebsebseb> LJRuff: he can't log in to his account
[02:23] <wajimba> sebsebseb: thx!
[02:23] <ahmedkotb> does test disk restore all the files
[02:23] <sebsebseb> wajimba: np
[02:23] <ahmedkotb> or it just searches for a known header format ?
[02:23] <soadkombucha> Would anyone be willing to check a script for me to make sure it's formatted properly?
[02:23] <LJRuff> sebsebseb, Thanks.
[02:23] <sebsebseb> LJRuff: he can't get into the recovery mode
[02:23] <mdg> Anyone know what an "init" error of 4 is?
[02:23] <sebsebseb> LJRuff: he seems to have tried the chmod or whatever on the Live CD as well without luck
[02:23] <Uboy> LJRuff I was enter in linux last week, today I'm triying to configure and install fingerprint sensor
[02:24] <LJRuff> jsec, does the laptop work if you unplug it?
[02:24] <sebsebseb> Uboy: uh
[02:24] <sebsebseb> Uboy: you told me you can't get into your account
[02:24] <LJRuff> sebsebseb, Uboy hmmm... did you ask in #grub?
[02:24] <Uboy> LJRuff & sebsebseb no
[02:24] <soadkombucha> Tootoot222: Could you possibly check a script for me so I know it'll work when I run it?
[02:24] <cellofellow> not really
[02:24] <cellofellow> oops
[02:24] <jesuska> Hi everyone. Looking for some help with Empathy
[02:24] <mbrigdan> Can anyone help me out? I recently re-jaibroke my ipod, so ssh was complaining about a wrong key. I removed the offending line from my known_hosts file, but nautilus still refuses to mount it, saying "Host key verification failed"
[02:24] <sebsebseb> Uboy: trust me if you only started with this last week
[02:24] <jsec> LJRuff, yes. I keep tabs on about how long I've had it unplugged, it's just really annoying when I lose track and it randomly dies on me.
[02:24] <ahmedkotb> sebsebseb, thanks for the help
[02:24] <sebsebseb> Uboy: you won't want  to be messing around with Grub 2 already
[02:25] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: what kind of script?
[02:25] <ahmedkotb> sebsebseb, i will see what i can do
[02:25] <ahmedkotb> thanks 4 all of you
[02:25] <sebsebseb> ahmedkotb: ok good luck :)
[02:25] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: A shell script that auto configures makes and installs the 4 realtek hi def audio drivers
[02:25] <ahmedkotb> the most important lesson is : BACKUP
[02:25] <ahmedkotb> BACKUP BACUP
[02:25] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: http://pastebin.ca/1890149
[02:25] <LJRuff> jsec, hmmm... what are you using?
[02:25] <jesuska> Hi everyone. Looking for some help with Empathy
[02:25] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: I don't THINK anything is wrong with it
[02:25] <soadkombucha> I used .. to cd back to the parent folder
[02:26] <jsec> LJRuff, MacBook running lucid
[02:26] <LJRuff> I've never heard of this issue with a macbook and as I've never used one... = /
[02:26] <ubutom> !ask > jesuska
[02:26] <ZykoticK9> mbrigdan, you might want to try moving known_hosts to a new file and retrying (just to test)
[02:26] <sebsebseb> Uboy: yes it can be good to mess around  / experiment a bit to try and learn something
[02:27] <queso> LJRuff: actually, no, I still can't get it to turn off those notifications.
[02:27] <jsec> LJRuff, haha understood. I've seen problems on the forum with a pretty wide range of laptops affected. It seems like it might be an ACPI issue, but I don't know where to get started.
[02:27] <mbrigdan> ZykoticK9, ok, trying that now
[02:27] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: Anything look wrong with it? Just let me know.
[02:27] <sebsebseb> Uboy: however I have used Desktop Linux since 2004, and no Ubuntu was not my first distro :)   and even now,  I will clean install if something happens,  and I know that, there isn't much point trying to fix in some way
[02:28] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: you already have alsa lib on you machine why compiling another ?
[02:28] <queso> LJRuff: I tried Edit, Plugins, Status Icon, Configure, Notifications, Never Shown, and it still shows them.
[02:28] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: My audio drivers were messed up they were playing static
[02:28] <LJRuff> queso, try asking in #gnome or #rhythmbox?
[02:28] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: So I figured I'd do a clean compile and install
[02:28] <jesuska> my empathy doesnt seem to work anymore.. it just stalls when validating new chat account parameters... i cant connect to any account anymore. any idea ?
[02:28] <queso> LJRuff: okay, will do. thank you.
[02:28] <wise_crypt> !info libasound2 | soadkombucha
[02:28] <LJRuff> queso, sorry i couldn't help more. = /
[02:28] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and even  experienced users quite a lot of us, will avoide messing around with programs that we don't like, for example  Grub2, or  Xorg for the graphics
[02:28] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: I'm having audio issues. Let me try a reboot...
[02:28] <LJRuff> jsec, Nor do I. I've never worked under Ubuntu's hood much. After I got a feel for linux I kind of moved off...
[02:29] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: After my file copy operation finishes
[02:29] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: ok
[02:29] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: But does anything minus that look wrong with the script?
[02:29] <soadkombucha> the alsa-lib is easy to edit out
[02:29] <sebsebseb> LJRuff: yeah most of us don't really need to do anything as such with under the hood
[02:29] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: no
[02:30] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: Alright. Just wanted to make sure. I'd read up on making bash scripts, and I thought I had it right, but seeing as today was the first time I've ever actually implemented the knowledge of writing them I checked. Thank you.
[02:30] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: np
[02:30] <LJRuff> sebsebseb, That's why I moved away from Ubnutu. It's basically already perfect on the user's end - if you want to play around with a tuner car then you need to move onto Debian's Sid or Slackware or Gentoo or something. =P I still use and love Ubuntu tho...
[02:30] <soadkombucha> What about Linux Mint?
[02:30] <Uboy> LJRuff & sebsebseb after I'm triyng to apply this changes > http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage > my problem appears > my password doesn't work for authentificate command in sudo, instal package from software source and..... but log in page doesn't want me a password becouse I think i changed the setting to log in after problem occure, so I'm triying to change password bu GRUB and go to root shell, but GRUB doesn't complete that the option
[02:31] <sebsebseb> LJRuff: Mandriva for me since November on here, but thats also a noobs distro,  in fact more user friendly than Ubuntu really
[02:31] <mbrigdan> ZykoticK9, did that, the old copied contents back in, and now it works. Thank you!
[02:31] <sebsebseb> LJRuff: other computer is still Ubuntu
[02:31] <ZykoticK9> mbrigdan, glad you got it working :)
[02:31] <soadkombucha> sebsebseb: you really like Debian distros? Isn't RPM a tad more stable?
[02:31] <wise_crypt> sebsebseb: !poll
[02:31] <LJRuff> sebsebseb, never used it - but we're moving off-topic. I have dual boots. Playign with gentoo and ubuntu
[02:32] <soadkombucha> LJRuff: If you want something to mess around with why don't you try out ArchLinux? It's pacman based, not Deb or RPM
[02:32] <sebsebseb> wise_crypt: having a nice graphical control centre for setting up the system,  makes it more user friendly, anyway off topic
[02:32] <Uboy> sebsebseb > Explain > after I'm triyng to apply this changes > http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage > my problem appears > my password doesn't work for authentificate command in sudo, instal package from software source and..... but log in page doesn't want me a password becouse I think i changed the setting to log in after problem occure, so I'm triying to change password bu GRUB and go to root shell, but GRUB doesn't complete that the opt
[02:32] <LJRuff> soadkombucha, It's on my list to try after I master Gentoo
[02:33] <sebsebseb> soadkombucha: DEB, RPM,  apt-get yum, whatever, I don't care, as long as the apps I use will work :)
[02:33] <juggalo483> still cant get java installed any ideas
[02:33] <LJRuff> brb all
[02:33] <jesuska> anybody here can help me ?
[02:33] <jesuska> my empathy doesnt seem to work anymore.. it just stalls when validating new chat account parameters... i cant connect to any account anymore. any idea ?
[02:33] <Uboy> sebsebseb > Explain > after I'm triyng to apply this changes > http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage > my problem appears > my password doesn't work for authentificate command in sudo, instal package from software source and..... but log in page doesn't want me a password becouse I think i changed the setting to log in after problem occure, so I'm triying to change password bu GRUB and go to root shell, but GRUB doesn't complete that the opt
[02:33] <wise_crypt> if you guys wana mess around use slackware they are plenty to mess with
[02:33] <ZykoticK9> !repeat > Uboy
[02:33] <sebsebseb> Uboy: don't repeate stuff so quickly
[02:34] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: There's always Arch
[02:34] <Uboy> ok sorry
[02:34] <Uboy> so pleas read it
[02:34] <sebsebseb> Uboy: sometimes we are doing something else,  or we end up in off toipc chat :D,  or were helping someone else in here as well,  patience :)
[02:34] <juggalo483> uboy: any ideas on java
[02:34] <Uboy> ok i know
[02:34] <wise_crypt> soadkombucha: or ubuntu in minimal install ;p
[02:35] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: Haha
[02:35] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and we are volunters, we don't get paid to help out in here,  so yeah patience
[02:35] <ZykoticK9> juggalo483, "apt-cache policy sun-java6-plugin" does it show as installed?
[02:35] <soadkombucha> wise_crypt: I think I'm going to continue coming to this room. Despite being a relatively new regular linux user, I'm getting a decent chunk of knowledge from here, plus am finding that I actually CAN help people
[02:35] <juggalo483> zykotick9: sorry new to the OS where would i see that
[02:36] <ZykoticK9> juggalo483, run everything inside the "s in a terminal
[02:36] <Uboy> sebsebseb all of this mean's I'm so tired and 13 Hours working front Laptop to solve 1 problem! :d
[02:36] <juggalo483> ok
[02:36] <wajimba> sebsebseb: got vnc working- now how do I change my screen resolution to 1440x875?
[02:36] <sebsebseb> wajimba: uhmm well  I know that the computer your connecting to, that that is the one where the resolution should probably be changed really
[02:37] <wajimba> yeah
[02:37] <wajimba> so, is it an xorg.conf thing?
[02:37] <sebsebseb> wajimba: so yeah on that computer get it changed
[02:37] <sebsebseb> wajimba: no I don't think it has anything to do with xorg
[02:37] <sebsebseb> wajimba: how big or small the connection is on your screen
[02:38] <sebsebseb> wajimba: the desktop
[02:38] <wajimba> well, my only problem is that 1440x875 is not a standard resolution, so I can't just pick it on the VNC server computer
[02:38] <sebsebseb> Uboy: right I just gone on your link
[02:39] <Uboy> ok tnx dude
[02:39] <wajimba> the connection is LAN -- 100 Mbps
[02:39] <sebsebseb> Uboy: pm only with proper reason :)
[02:39] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and so far you haven't been pming me like that at all
[02:39] <juggalo483> Zykotick9: unable to find package
[02:39] <ZykoticK9> wajimba, that limitation would be in your VNC client (not really surprising actually)
[02:39] <sebsebseb> Uboy: basically pm is good for stuff that shoudn't go in the channel, for example off topic chat
[02:39] <ZykoticK9> juggalo483, are you on 10.04?  if you you need to enable the Partner repository.
[02:40] <sebsebseb> !pm | Uboy
[02:40] <ZykoticK9> juggalo483, my note in blue at the top http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/java
[02:40] <wajimba> ZykoticK9: huh? I'm just using the built-in remote desktop on ubuntu. To my knowledge the vnc clientside will adjust the window according to the resolution set on the server side
[02:41] <sebsebseb> Uboy: you asked in pm if my name is always sebsebseb when I am in here, most of the time it has been
[02:41] <NetScr1be> x-chat can't survive power standby?
[02:41] <NetScr1be> Ubuntu upgrade weirdness
[02:41] <sebsebseb> Uboy: also it is a good idea to not target a particular person when wanting support and asking a question, instead ask the whole channel :)
[02:41] <Uboy> sebsebseb are u play with me?
[02:41] <ZykoticK9> wajimba, vnc client must be the resolution cause though
[02:41] <flypiper> soadkombucha, are you still here??
[02:41] <juggalo483> father-inlaw said nstall openjdk java runtime
[02:41] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Yes
[02:41] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and now hold on so I can read the link you gave :)
[02:41] <soadkombucha> flypiper: What's going on?
[02:41] <wajimba> ZykoticK9: the cause?
[02:42] <Uboy> what link?
[02:42] <NetScr1be> It's in the installing software phase preparing to configure HAL and is hung ....
[02:42] <flypiper> soadkombucha, the ipw3945 modules aren' in non-free
[02:42] <NetScr1be> ... mouse won't move and Caps Lock is blinking
[02:42] <ZykoticK9> wajimba, why would you want to run a remove connection that that high a resolution anyway?  isn't that slow?
[02:42] <sebsebseb> Uboy: the one you gave out in here three times
[02:42] <ZykoticK9> wajimba, s/remove/remote
[02:42] <ylmfos> 你们都是哪里人
[02:42] <Uboy> sebsebseb http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage
[02:43] <sebsebseb> Uboy: yes that one
[02:43] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Hrm. Did you try compiling them from source?
[02:43] <Uboy> sebsebseb http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-ubuntu-password-easily-from-the-live-cd/
[02:43] <sebsebseb> Uboy: by the way I am not a girl
[02:43] <bazhang> ylmfos, english here
[02:43] <NetScr1be> I wwas not a girl one
[02:43] <soadkombucha> flypiper: http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/#downloads
[02:43] <Uboy> sebsebseb any way I love U!
[02:44] <wise_crypt> eh
[02:44] <flypiper> soadkombucha, ok.. thanks
[02:44] <bazhang> ylmfos, #ubuntu-cn for chinese
[02:44] <sebsebseb> Uboy: is your computer a system76 ?
[02:44] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Not a problem.
[02:44] <bruenig> ipw3945 is way out of date
[02:44] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Do you know how to compile from source?
[02:44] <Uboy> sebsebseb Waht?!!!11
[02:44] <soadkombucha> bruenig: It's the card he has though
[02:44] <bruenig> iwl drivers are the up-to-date supporter drivers
[02:44] <bruenig> iwl3945
[02:44] <sebsebseb> Uboy: ok on the top of
[02:44] <flypiper> soadkombucha, yea.. but this is a new install so I will have to install all the build tools
[02:44] <bruenig> ipw was deprecated by iwl
[02:44] <wajimba> ZykoticK9: that's a good point. That's the size of the client screen I want to view it on minus the window bar height
[02:44] <Uboy> sebsebseb 2 minutes can u go in IM/
[02:45] <Uboy> ?
[02:45] <bruenig> http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iwlwifi&n=downloads
[02:45] <maco> Uboy: isnt this something you can call system76 about? they provide support when you buy their hardware, i thought
[02:45] <bruenig> you are looking for this, not the ipw3945 driver
[02:45] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Try the iwl drivers
[02:45] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Search for them, if they're not there build from them: http://intellinuxwireless.org/?n=Downloads
[02:45] <ylmfos> Where are you from?
[02:45] <bazhang> !ot | ylmfos
[02:45] <sebsebseb> Uboy: uhmm
[02:45] <maco> Uboy: for reference,  they have ##system76 on here and they have their own subforum on http://ubuntuforums.org if you want help direct from system76 folks
[02:45] <flypiper> soadkombucha, that is what is installed from default.. and they are really slow... it won't load a web page at all
[02:45] <sebsebseb> ubottu: point 4 on the page you gave
[02:45] <Uboy> sebsebseb what's your meaning of system 76?
[02:45] <bazhang> ylmfos, this is NOT the chat channel
[02:45] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Ahh.
[02:46] <bruenig> I find it hard to believe that iwl is not included by default in ubuntu or alternative that there is not a package for it
[02:46] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Then try the ipw drivers if you want.
[02:46] <derp> Is there a way to take VMware and make it the GUI for ubuntu?
[02:46] <Uboy> sebsebseb no my system not 76!
[02:46] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Did you try the wireless backports module?
[02:46] <sebsebseb> Uboy: have you even read all of this page?  http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage
[02:46] <wireshark> could anyone check  to synaptic if has already instaled the sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-jre???
[02:46] <flypiper> soadkombucha, Im trying to get them.. but they seem to have vanished
[02:46] <sebsebseb> http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage
[02:46] <ZykoticK9> wajimba, isn't resolution all determined by your VNC client setup? - i don't use remote GUI stuff
[02:46] <sebsebseb> Uboy: look at number 4
[02:46] <Uboy> sebsebseb yes
[02:46] <soadkombucha> flypiper: hold on
[02:46] <sebsebseb> Uboy: also the introduction mentions system 76
[02:46] <maco> Uboy: why are you using system76-hardware-specific drivers if you dont have a system76 machine? have you checked that its the exact same hardware?
[02:46] <Guest87049> Just saying this again due to the nick change: Is there a way to take VMware and make it the GUI for ubuntu?
[02:46] <sebsebseb> Uboy: number 4 is your problem?
[02:46] <flypiper> soadkombucha, where would I find those?
[02:47] <CrazyHyena> will ubuntu's future versions continue to try to be lightweight, as in using the same amount of RAM in the next versions?
[02:47] <sebsebseb> maco: :)  bingo I was getting to that,  that he is probably doing the wrong thing
[02:47] <wajimba> ZykoticK9: my client, realvnc, grabs the resolution of the screen that it's looking at
[02:47] <bruenig> ipw isn't even maintained anymore, I doubt seriously that it will even compile and work properly in the latest kernels
[02:47] <NetScr1be> Guest87049, say more about that but maqybe differently
[02:47] <bruenig> it stopped being maintained at least a year ago
[02:47] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Try compat-wireless? http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/stable/
[02:47] <wireshark> could anyone check  to synaptic if has already instaled the sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-jre???
[02:47] <Guest87049> k
[02:47] <maco> bruenig: 2 or 3 more like
[02:47] <Uboy> sebsebseb dude my fingerprint is another problem! I can't install and use it
[02:48] <soadkombucha> bruenig: You think compat-wireless might work?
[02:48] <wise_crypt> derp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Server it has a web interface
[02:48] <flypiper> soadkombucha, Ok.. gimme a few
[02:48] <Uboy> sebsebseb my fingerprint sensor in windows named UPEK
[02:48] <Guest87049> Well what I am wanting to do is take the functions of VMware and literally just make the different OS onto the same desktop as the default OS
[02:48] <soadkombucha> Guest87049: There's software that does that hold on
[02:48] <maco> Uboy: but UPEK is a brand....
[02:48] <maco> Uboy: you need to check whether its the exact same model
[02:48] <ylmfos>  What does it chat the function is?
[02:48] <maco> ylmfos: what?
[02:49] <bazhang> ylmfos, Ubuntu support only
[02:49] <soadkombucha> Guest87049: There's QEmu and there's another one
[02:49] <Uboy> maco is there any way to found the exact model?
[02:49] <bazhang> ylmfos, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:49] <CrazyHyena> virtualbox
[02:49] <ZykoticK9> wajimba, when you connect in realvnc see the "connection options" and the scale option appears to modify resolution somehow.  Good luck man.
[02:49] <soadkombucha> CrazyHyena: No
[02:49] <Guest87049> I am not wanting to do virtual box or VMware or any of that
[02:49] <cellofellow> FLV is a container format that can use the Sorenson 3 codec (ffmpeg calls it flv, it's a subset of H.232) or On2 VP6 or H.264.
[02:49] <soadkombucha> CrazyHyena: Guest87049  wants to run the kernels cocurrently
[02:49] <CrazyHyena> oh
[02:49] <ylmf-han> how can i update a software? i have download the .desktop file
[02:49] <cellofellow> oops, wrong chanel
[02:49] <Guest87049> I want the OS to be a universal operating system
[02:49] <soadkombucha> Guest87049: CoLinux or QEmu
[02:50] <Guest87049> thank you
[02:50] <bazhang> ylmf-han, downloaded from where
[02:50] <cellofellow> irssi split screens are a little confusing
[02:50] <Uboy> maco i think u'r bot1
[02:50] <sebsebseb> Uboy: make sure your installing for your computer, otherwise yes problems
[02:50] <maco> Uboy: run "lsusb" to get the vendor & model id numbers
[02:50] <soadkombucha> Guest87049: Not a problem. CoLinux might need to be run from windows though..
[02:50] <maco> Uboy: and no, i'm not a bot
[02:50] <wireshark> could anyone check  to synaptic if has already installed the sun-java6-bin and sun-java6-jre???
[02:50] <Guest87049> Does colinux allow mac, windows, and ubuntu
[02:50] <Uboy> maco sorry,
[02:51] <CrazyHyena> is there a way to convert USB into a normal COM serial port?
[02:51] <bazhang> wireshark, enable the partner repo to get
[02:51] <soadkombucha> Guest87049: I don't know. There's also KVM
[02:51] <bazhang> !partner | wireshark
[02:51] <sebsebseb> Guest87049: no colinux is uhmm
[02:51] <Guest87049> These are all just virtualhost correct?
[02:51] <Uboy> smaco lsusb show me only a UPEK in line 1
[02:51] <sebsebseb> Guest87049: a bit like Wine, but for Windows and for Linux apps
[02:51] <ZykoticK9> wireshark, could you rephrase?  what would you like?
[02:51] <soadkombucha> But KVM is virtual machines
[02:51] <soadkombucha> Guest87049: CoLinux is the only one I know that allows a kernel to be run cocurrently
[02:51] <wireshark> ZykoticK9:  only to check if you already installed them
[02:51] <Guest87049> ah
[02:52] <edbian> soadkombucha, coLinux is really cool
[02:52] <ZykoticK9> wireshark, i have them jre installed
[02:52] <Uboy> maco us 008 Device 002: ID 147e:1000 Upek
[02:52] <wireshark> could you check ZykoticK9?
[02:52] <Uboy> Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[02:52] <Uboy> Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[02:52] <Uboy> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[02:52] <Uboy> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[02:52] <Uboy> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[02:52] <FloodBot2> Uboy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:52] <Uboy> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[02:52] <Uboy> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0c45:63e0 Microdia Sonix Integrated Webcam
[02:52] <flypiper> soadkombucha, I will have to build that also.. let me try the ipw3945 first
[02:52] <cntrational> Uboy: what
[02:52] <soadkombucha> Guest87049: But colinux is linux in windows
[02:52] <ylmfos>  Where do I want to know you from
[02:52] <sebsebseb> Uboy: did you set a root password?
[02:52] <Guest87049> So how do I get an Operating system to just kinda be like a 3rd party hosting to allow mac, windows, and linux functions/programs to be run on one desktop?
[02:52] <cntrational> Uboy: use pastebin
[02:52] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Alright.
[02:52] <soadkombucha> Guest87049: Well through windows you can use colinux to run a linux kernel I don't know if you can emulate mac
[02:52] <bazhang> ylmfos, please chat elsewhere
[02:53] <ZykoticK9> wireshark, jre version 6.20dlj-1ubuntu3
[02:53] <Uboy> sebsebseb I'm not what is Root!
[02:53] <wireshark> ZykoticK9:  is already installed uh?
[02:53] <soadkombucha> flypiper: If I'm not here when you get back, I'm doing a system reboot
[02:53] <Uboy> sebsebseb the only account created is one and during in install
[02:53] <ZykoticK9> wireshark, what do you mean?  not be default!
[02:53] <maco> CrazyHyena: http://delicious.com/macoafi
[02:53] <flypiper> soadkombucha, Thanks a million for your help..  It's just a matter of looking for the drivers.
[02:54] <Uboy> cntrrational : waht is pastebin?
[02:54] <maco> !pastebin | cntrational
[02:54] <maco> erk
[02:54] <maco> cntrational: sorry
[02:54] <maco> !pastebin | uboy
[02:54] <cntrational> >.>
[02:54] <FloodBot2> maco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:54] <sebsebseb> Anyone want to take over helping Uboy  or well trying to like I was doing?  I want to go away from the computer
[02:54] <cntrational> i was thinking whether ubottu had description pastebin
[02:54] <cntrational> *description for pastebin
[02:54] <juggalo483> Zykotick9: keeps sitting at starting applet
[02:55] <soadkombucha> I use pastebin.ca
[02:55] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, what is wrong with his system
[02:55] <soadkombucha> He forgot his password
[02:55] <soadkombucha> And is trying to reset it
[02:55] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: not sure exactly, he can't  go into recovery mode
[02:55] <soadkombucha> And as far as I can recall the passwd utility wasn't working either
[02:55] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: he can't get his Ubuntu password re set, and it seems he has been trying to install some odd driver, that wasn't for his hardware
[02:55] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage
[02:55] <sebsebseb> http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage
[02:55] <bruenig> use a live cd and chroot to reset your password
[02:56] <sebsebseb> bruenig: it seems he has tried that, and that won't even work
[02:56] <Agu10> is there a program to start other windows in a specific virtual desktop?
[02:56] <bruenig> he has done it wrong
[02:56] <bruenig> there is no concievable reason that wont work
[02:56] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: I suggested clean installing  earlier, but they didn't want to do that
[02:56] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, errrrgh....
[02:56] <ZykoticK9> juggalo483, if you trying a web app many won't work on linux - i'm affraid fewer seem to work with the openjava/icedtea then sun's version, BUT you can report stuff as potential bugs.  Good luck man.
[02:56] <cntrational> Agu10: virtual desktop?
[02:56] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: and hes new as well, last week apparently
[02:57] <Agu10> I mean workspaces
[02:57] <Agu10> in a specific workspace
[02:57] <Traveler3> zykotick9: got jave installed
[02:57] <Traveler3> #java
[02:57] <ZykoticK9> Traveler3, ya?
[02:57] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, that's gonna be a pain, fresh install would be easier than messing with pam specially since I dont know anything about the system76
[02:58] <Uboy> bruenig I use a live CD to change a password by this instructions > http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-ubuntu-password-easily-from-the-live-cd/ and Terminal said password successfuly updated but a problem still exist
[02:58] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: sure, but his computer isn't even a system76
[02:58] <cntrational> Agu10: compiz has a setting to always open a app in a specific workspace, but i don't think that's what you want
[02:58] <juggalo483> Zykotick9: traveler is me  lol just took a few sec. for the applet to load
[02:58] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, now you're just pulling my leg so what is it?
[02:58] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: no idea
[02:59] <sebsebseb> Uboy: which manufacture is your computer?
[02:59] <rpgsimmaster> On a different note, someone want to assist me? :P I'm booting Ubuntu 10.04 server, and one of my Software RAID arrays apparently has an error: "Serious errors were found while checking dthe disk drive for /var... Press F to attemp to fix the errors, I to ignore...." however, here it just freezes - it doesn't want to accept any of the valid keypresses; I know it's reading the keyboard, because I can switch virtual terminals, but I can't actually start
[02:59] <Guest87049> But I dont want to have a program open to run virtual machines. I want to literally have a distro of linux that I just pop in an install disc for another OS and have it install
[02:59] <juggalo483> Zykotick9: i use a java based IRC client
[02:59] <sebsebseb> Uboy: who made it?
[02:59] <Guest87049> I hope that clears what I am trying to say
[02:59] <Pirate_Hunter> Uboy, can you lshw and paste the contents to a pastebin site?
[02:59] <Uboy> sebsebseb Dell Vostro 1520
[02:59] <Agu10> cntrational, well, I want that in a console line command
[02:59] <ZykoticK9> juggalo483, it seems to be working ;)
[02:59] <sebsebseb> !pastebin
[02:59] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, have they got any access to the system i.e. recovery?
[02:59] <juggalo483> zykotick: Thanks a bunch
[02:59] <Agu10> to open the app in whichever workspace I'd like
[02:59] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: no recovery mode won't work
[03:00] <Guest87049> Does what I said clear it up any further?
[03:00] <cntrational> Agu10: hmm, I don't know about anything like that, sorry D:
[03:00] <rpgsimmaster> sebsebseb: What's the issue, and what do they say they have *absolutely* tried?
[03:00] <soadkombucha> rpgsimmaster: Almost everything
[03:00] <juggalo483> how do a reset my video should i just delete the Xorg.conf file?
[03:00] <Uboy> Guys Thanks For Helping, I'm Still Hear
[03:00] <rpgsimmaster> lol, is the issue almost everything, or what they've tried?
[03:00] <soadkombucha> juggalo483: Are you trying to restart X?
[03:01] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, oh wow this is getting better and better, I'll have to pass my skills wont suffice this time
[03:01] <soadkombucha> rpgsimmaster: They've tried almost everything.
[03:01] <rpgsimmaster> but what's the issue?
[03:01] <ZykoticK9> juggalo483, don't delete it, just move it to a different name
[03:01] <Guest87049> But I dont want to have a program open to run virtual machines. I want to literally have a distro of linux that I just pop in an install disc for another OS and have it install. does that clear it up at all?
[03:01] <rpgsimmaster> I came in late
[03:01] <bazhang> Guest87049, yes, but that has nothing to with ubuntu support
[03:01] <Dargon> hey guys, my cron says /usr/local/bin/php /home/kenko/www/crons.php > /home/kenko/cron.log 2>&1 is there any reason that theres absolutely nothing in cron.log?
[03:01] <soadkombucha> rpgsimmaster: Improper hardware installed fingerprint reader drivers preventing login
[03:01] <juggalo483> no i got a new graphics card
[03:01] <rpgsimmaster> ooooh
[03:01] <sebsebseb> rpgsimmaster: basically they can't  get into recovery mode,  so can't get their Ubuntu account password reset, they have tried a Live CD no good.   and they seem to have been trying to install a driver for a computer that isn't the one they are using
[03:01] <Guest87049> bazhang how do I accomplish this, then?
[03:01] <bazhang> Guest87049, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:01] <ll62> ilove you
[03:01] <Guest87049> thank you
[03:01] <rpgsimmaster> Guest87049: It sounds like you need a bare metal VM installation, but it's rarely ever that simple
[03:02] <juggalo483> i love you too 1162
[03:02] <Dargon> anyone help me with crons?
[03:02] <Pirate_Hunter> Guest87049, before asking that let me ask you is that even possible if so where did you read it
[03:02] <sebsebseb> rpgsimmaster: or whatever this is.  http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage
[03:02] <sebsebseb> http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage
[03:02] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: got enough info?
[03:03] <bazhang> Pirate_Hunter, feel free to join him in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:03] <RPG-Master> Anyone know of a way to turn a .odp and .ppt file into a full video complete with background music, for playback on a DVD player?
[03:03] <deserteagle> hello all
[03:03] <soadkombucha> Pirate_Hunter: You can run a linux kernel cocurrently along windows with colinux
[03:03] <Pirate_Hunter> bazhang, nope I'll stay here I dont think they are aware of what they are asking
[03:03] <Uboy> guys I'm here
[03:03] <rpgsimmaster> have they reverted the PAM files?
[03:03] <juggalo483> can i fun the explorer window as root/sudo
[03:03] <Dargon> !cron
[03:03] <deserteagle> i'm connecting my droid to my PC, but it always mounts for root access only. Any ideas? THanks!
[03:03] <rpgsimmaster> Also, any ideas for my problem anyone, I'm kind of stuck here
[03:04] <Uboy> rpgsimmaster i Edit a PAM file
[03:04] <Uboy> Guys Help me! My english doesn't very well
[03:05] <Pirate_Hunter> Uboy, where trying to figure out how to help you but I just dont know the problem and your system is on a 50% chance a system76 but than were not even sure so could you explain your problem using as much detail as possible and dont leave out something that might help us
[03:05] <cntrational> "My english doesn't very well" that must be intentional
[03:05] <Pirate_Hunter> juggalo483, huh?
[03:05] <juggalo483> any way to run explorer with read/write acess
[03:06] <sebsebseb> cntrational: no  I think its true, from all the communication I have had with them so far
[03:06] <Uboy> Pirate_Hunter ok
[03:06] <cntrational> sebsebseb: but it's so apt
[03:06] <Uboy> Pirate_Hunter > > Explain > after I'm triyng to apply this changes > http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage > my problem appears > my password doesn't work for authentificate command in sudo, instal package from software source and..... but log in page doesn't want me a password becouse I think i changed the setting to log in after problem occure, so I'm triying to change password bu GRUB and go to root shell, but GRUB doesn't complete that t
[03:07] <Pirate_Hunter> juggalo483, again huh...? explorer windows, ubuntu nautilus and if that is what your asking than use gksudo nautilus to run it as root but I wouldn't advise it as you could break your system
[03:07] <Uboy> Pirates_Hunter > is that enogh?
[03:07] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: look at point 4 on that webpage :)
[03:07] <rpgsimmaster> UBoy, what is your native language?
[03:07] <Uboy> Persian
[03:07] <rpgsimmaster> (I'm wondering if we'd have more success with a machine translation)
[03:07] <rpgsimmaster> ah
[03:07] <juggalo483> i just wanna be able to delete/rename files with out having to open command
[03:07] <sebsebseb> rpgsimmaster: or maybe he could explain  stuff, to people in a channel for his language, when done here
[03:08] <sebsebseb> rpgsimmaster: if can't be helped here properly I mean
[03:08] <Uboy> rpgsimmaster persian and sorry for much much more bad speaking in english1
[03:09] <sebsebseb> Uboy: who did you buy your computer from?
[03:09] <jmknsd> does Ubuntu work on the i3 on chip graphics?
[03:09] <Uboy> sebsebseb our IR Ubuntu channels are empty now
[03:09] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, just read it, it is actually states it clearly.... oh boi...
[03:09] <sebsebseb> Uboy: also your not even in USA or Canada are you?  if so you can't buy from System76
[03:09] <rpgsimmaster> UBoy: Just to check, have you attempted:
[03:09] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: point 4 you mean?
[03:09] <rpgsimmaster> - Booting from a Live Ubuntu CD-rom?
[03:09] <Pirate_Hunter> Uboy, can I ask why you can't reisntall the system again
[03:09] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: point 4 does sound like his problem
[03:09] <Uboy> sebsebseb I'm Live in IRAN not USA or Canda
[03:10] <deserteagle> i'm connecting my droid to my PC, but it always mounts for root access only. Any ideas? Thanks!
[03:10] <Pirate_Hunter> sebsebseb, yup it actually states it loud and clear
[03:10] <alouden> i just installed today and was wondering if there is a solution to the cursor jumping when I touch the touchpad with two fingers..other than not doing that
[03:10] <sebsebseb> Pirate_Hunter: indeed which has been said for a while now
[03:10] <rpgsimmaster> alouden: Is your touchpad multitouch?
[03:10] <soadkombucha> flypiper: Any luck?
[03:10] <alouden> doubt it
[03:11] <alouden> not sure actually
[03:11] <Uboy> Pirate_Hunter becouse i heared that Linux not need to reinstall like window and this only my resoan to choose linux
[03:11] <rpgsimmaster> Then probably not - it's by hardware design that it will do that
[03:11] <Pirate_Hunter> Uboy, how can I say this you got very little experience with linux, you just installed the OS a week ago, why can't you reformat it?
[03:11] <Kyoko> is there a way to dual boot ubuntu without overwriting the mbr?
[03:11] <sebsebseb> Uboy: the instructions on  this webpage http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Fingerprint_Reader_Usage  ARE NOT FOR YOUR COMPUTER!
[03:11] <rpgsimmaster> UBoy: Have you booted into a Live CDRom?
[03:11] <rpgsimmaster> Kyoko: Yes
[03:11] <rpgsimmaster> The long answer is a little more complex :P
[03:11]  * rpgsimmaster curses Software RAID VERY LOUDLY
[03:12] <Uboy> sebsebseb OOKKK!
[03:12] <sebsebseb> Uboy: and since you used them, you have the problem that is mentioned on the webpage in 4.