[00:00] <Nillerz> If my hard-drive crashes and burns then I'll just hit the salvage heaps but no one throws out a ups
[00:11] <thinkmassive> actually a UPS is probably easy to find, just get a new battery
[00:12] <thinkmassive> do you keep backups?
[00:12] <Nillerz> I'm judging this off the fact that I've seen one UPS in my life but have seen well over a thousand hard-drives
[00:12] <Nillerz> Not in a major way, actually, is there a way to access windows networked folders?
[00:12] <thinkmassive> samba
[00:12] <zoredache> !fusesmb
[00:13] <Nillerz> Okay, here's the plan: I get FuseSmb and my wireless drivers backed up on my 2 gb MP3 player.
[00:14] <Nillerz> Then I switch to my XP partition and finish watching a movie I don't feel like backing up
[00:14] <Nillerz> Then I re-install EVERYTHING, and use the backedup files on my other computer that is only on when my dad is using it
[00:15] <Nillerz> I need to sort through things, so I don't get the Adobe master collection on my linux box, that takes a while, like all iso files... plus it's useless
[00:16] <Nillerz> okay, now... crapshoot
[00:16] <Nillerz> !mp3
[00:16] <Nillerz> !mp3 player
[00:16] <Nillerz> !mount
[00:17] <Nillerz> Is there a way to mount an MP3 player?
[00:17] <thinkmassive> a lot of them automount similar to a flash drive
[00:17] <Nillerz> which directory would it be in?
[00:17] <Nillerz> NVM!
[00:17] <Nillerz> that's NIFTY.
[00:19] <thinkmassive> you should think of finding a usb hdd enclosure
[00:19] <Nillerz> Yeah, I have my eyes on a 250 gig on sale at Radioshack for 100 bucks
[00:19] <thinkmassive> if you don't have a problem finding a hdd, salvage one and stick it in the enclosure, then you've got an easy way to move data around
[00:20] <thinkmassive> you should be able to get 500GB for $100
[00:20] <Nillerz> Hard drives aren't necessarily easy to find so much as easy to buy for a couple bucks or yardwork
[00:20] <Nillerz> wait, really? Where?
[00:20] <thinkmassive> I usually use newegg.com
[00:21] <thinkmassive> other places might be cheaper, but they're reliable and have good customer service in case something is broken
[00:21] <Nillerz> Gah, I need to pay things off first but then, I will keep that in mind
[00:21] <Nillerz> I never use Newegg but until now I couldn't buy things off the internet, no bank account.
[00:21] <thinkmassive> but I just got 2 external 500GB w/usb 2 + esata for like 95 each
[00:21] <Nillerz> Used cash
[00:21] <stweston> THANK YOU SO MUCH!
[00:21] <thinkmassive> you can buy one of those visa cards
[00:21] <thinkmassive> like a visa gift card
[00:21] <stweston> I just got an idea for installing xubuntu!
[00:21] <thinkmassive> or use a debit card if you have one
[00:22] <Nillerz> on an external HD?
[00:22] <stweston> no
[00:22] <stweston> wait -
[00:22] <Nillerz> then going around and playing with it on other people's computers?
[00:22] <stweston> I thought of installing it by using my old iPod!
[00:22] <Nillerz> :O
[00:22] <Nillerz> Can';t you install some linux distros on an iPod?
[00:22] <stweston> thank you so much! it's a 2GB iPod Nano - 2nd Gen.
[00:23] <stweston> yeah, but that isn't what I"m thinking of...
[00:23] <stweston> good idea, tho
[00:23] <stweston> I can use the live USB thing
[00:23] <stweston> right?
[00:23] <stweston> if I format the iPod as a drive?
[00:24] <thinkmassive> you could, or you could sell the ipod and probably buy about ten 2gb usb drives with the profit
[00:24] <stweston> ...
[00:24] <stweston> nah. this is more clever.
[00:24] <thinkmassive> haha
[00:24] <stweston> the iPod is old.
[00:24] <thinkmassive> just saying...
[00:24] <thinkmassive> yeah, but people pay a premium for apple stuff
[00:24] <stweston> aah
[00:24] <stweston> good point.
[00:24] <stweston> wait - what exaclty is a premium?
[00:24] <stweston> extra?
[00:25] <thinkmassive> yes
[00:25] <stweston> ok
[00:25] <Nillerz> Wait, I have a 2 gig mp3 player, could I use it to store an OS?
[00:25] <stweston> well I'll remove the liveUSB thing first.
[00:25] <Nillerz> It's just flash media though
[00:25] <thinkmassive> that, and you can get 2gb flash for about $8
[00:25] <stweston> my iPod is flash.
[00:28] <kriel> Okay, here's a strange question.  I know, it had to spin down and spin back up a few times, and probably wasn't the best on my CD ROM.
[00:29] <kriel> However, ever since I've done that, my system has _dragged._ Like, taking 10-20 seconds to open a music file off the hard drive.
[00:30] <kriel> (In other news, does anybody know the hotkey for fullscreen on PuTTY? I clicked the wrong button, and now irssi is my whole screen..)
[00:31] <kriel> (Nvm about the PuTTY)
[00:32] <Nillerz> o_O
[00:32] <Nillerz> That's a weird problem
[00:33] <Nillerz> Pity I can't help. Ta ta!
[00:33] <kriel> It may not be cause and effect; That's just the immediate thing I... noticed...
[00:40] <kriel> what the fuck?
[00:40] <kriel> It's even persistent after a reboot.
[00:40] <kriel> Ehr... my mistake; forgot this isn't a private channel.
[00:56] <DCPom> lol
[00:59] <ogre> first day on xfce. wondering if there is any dock or widget that works for networkmanager. I am trying to remove all panels
[01:00] <ogre> and battery life as well
[01:00]  * flyback goes to cook a steak
[01:05] <amdpox> Does anyone know how to get Rhythmbox to recognise iPods under XFCE?
[01:05] <amdpox> I've got the gnome services checked in the sessions preferences but it still doesn't work
[01:11] <stweston> does anyone know if syslinux comes in an OS X version?
[01:11] <stweston> and no, I don't.
[01:11] <stweston> wiat - it does!
[01:12] <stweston> uh... correction - under GNOME
[01:13] <stweston> but do you know if "syslinux" comes in an OS X version? I'm trying to boot from my old iPod
[01:19] <stweston> anyone?
[01:28] <stweston> does anyone know how to make a LiveUSB drive from a Mac?
[01:42] <mixel> hi everyone
[01:42] <mixel> alguien habla español aqui?
[01:43] <stweston> no
[01:43] <stweston> no comprende
[01:43] <mixel> ouch!!!
[01:43] <stweston> ?
[01:43] <stweston> sorry. was that Italian? I don't know spanish...
[01:43] <mixel> where i can find a spanish channel for xubuntu
[01:44] <stweston> there isn't one, I don't think
[01:44] <stweston> sorry
[01:44] <mixel> my english its very elementally
[01:44] <stweston> what's your problem?
[01:44] <stweston> I can explain in an elementary way.
[01:44] <stweston> =)
[01:44]  * flyback gets overwealmed
[01:45] <mixel> ok?
[01:45] <mixel> i have a idea
[01:45] <stweston> what?
[01:45] <mixel> google translator lol
[01:46] <stweston> oh! LOL
[01:46] <mixel> please waitme one sec..
[01:46] <stweston> oke
[01:49] <Odd-rationale> !es | mixel
[01:51] <mixel> I have a motherboard pcchips 748lmrt is the first with VGA, sound and integrated whole, but as an option has a plaque with usb ps2 and infrorrojo, well the problem is that this option does not recognize the plate in Xubuntu live cd or installing or using The dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:51] <mixel> español
[01:51] <mixel>
[01:51] <mixel> »
[01:51] <mixel> inglés
[01:51] <mixel>
[01:51] <mixel> Traducir
[01:51] <mixel>
[01:52] <mixel> ubottu? dime pero alli tambien encuentro ayuda sobre xubuntu
[01:52] <mixel> wow!!!
[01:52] <stweston> ?
[01:52] <stweston> it says he's only a machine.
[01:53] <mixel> jajajajaja lol
[01:53] <stweston> don't think he's smart.
[01:53] <mixel> i now
[01:53] <stweston> ok
[01:53] <mixel> shame that
[01:53] <mixel> ok
[01:53] <mixel> stweston my friend you understend my little big problem?
[01:54] <stweston> mixel: somewhat.
[01:54] <mixel> i have the same problem when i try to install ubuntu
[01:54] <mixel> the same problem
[01:54] <mixel> the opcional plaque its the problem
[01:54] <stweston> it could be hardware that isn't supported?
[01:55] <stweston> the drive?
[01:55] <stweston> er... the port?
[01:55] <mixel> yes
[01:55] <mixel> if it may be that the problem but it could do
[01:55] <stweston> I don't really understand your question. you could try #ubuntu-es
[01:55] <stweston> I think that's right.
[01:57] <mixel> mmmm ok no problem
[01:57] <mixel> thanks for try to help me
[01:57] <stweston> no problem
[01:57] <stweston> you're welcome
[01:57] <mixel> i wanna try to study more the english lol
[01:57] <stweston> oh.
[01:57] <stweston> good luck
[01:58] <mixel> best regards my friend bye bye...
[01:58] <stweston> yeah
[02:04] <ogre> first day on xfce. wondering if there is any dock or widget that works for networkmanagerand battery. I am trying to remove all panels
[02:04] <Odd-rationale> ogre: you can have a free floating panel that autohides? is that good enough?
[02:05] <ogre> Odd-rationale:  i can make transparent correct?
[02:06] <Odd-rationale> ogre: if you have a compositor... xfce has one built in... you just need to enable it...
[02:07] <ogre> Odd-rationale:  sorry for so many questions but how do i do that?
[02:08] <Odd-rationale> ogre: applications --> settings --> window manager tweaks --> Compositor...
[02:13] <Odd-rationale> gnome 2.24 looks tempting...
[02:15] <amdpox> indeed it does
[02:16] <Odd-rationale> someone need to stop me from wiping xfce out for it!!
[02:17] <amdpox> think of the bloat and the lag
[02:18] <thinkmassive> don't talk about her that way
[02:18] <thinkmassive> gnomes need lovin too
[02:21] <amdpox> gnome devs need head smashings against walls
[02:21] <amdpox> features are not bad
[02:21] <amdpox> w
[02:21] <amdpox> *why does kde have to be so ugly and weird
[02:28] <ogre> Odd-rationale:  any way to make panel transparent and icons opaque?
[02:28] <amdpox> ogre, nope, xfce panel sets an overall opacity
[02:29] <amdpox> if you want a mac-like dock with system tray, try avant-window-navigator
[02:31] <ogre> amdpox:  yeah but i need networkmanager
[02:31] <amdpox> networkmanager is a tray applet
[02:32] <amdpox> awn (or at least the svn version) has a tray plugin
[02:36] <DCPom> how do you do a screen capture for xub?
[02:51]  * flyback bbl
[03:28] <Nillerz> what was that program for getting files from a network?
[03:29] <thinkmassive> Nillerz, what kind of network?
[03:29] <Nillerz> wireless and trying to access a windows shared folder
[03:29] <thinkmassive> fusesmb
[03:34] <Nillerz> thanks mate
[03:43] <Nillerz> How... mmm... how does it work?
[03:43] <saiki> hey guys
[03:43] <Nillerz> how does fusesmb work?
[03:44] <saiki> I have 2 issues, if someone can tell me how to fex these I'd appriciate it: 1. Mic captures volume WAY too low. 2. I can't mount other parions of the same hard drive (NTFS formatted) anc anyone help me?
[03:45] <amdpox> saiki, open a terminal and run alsamixer, ensure all channels are maxed and unmuted
[03:47] <saiki> that's playback, what about capture?
[03:47] <saiki> it's a ms VX-5000
[03:50] <saiki> lol, soundrecorede let me up the mic
[03:50] <saiki> now to go test it
[03:53] <Nillerz> how does fusesmb work?
[03:53] <Nillerz> The page I googled is lacking...
[03:54] <stweston> anyone here willing to tell me some cmd line prompts to get Ubuntu Server running?
[03:54] <stweston> I need internet connectivity from an ethernet cable, BTW
[03:55] <stweston> wait - this is the wrong place to ask that... sorry
[04:09] <Nillerz> gosh darn you connection time-outs!
[04:11] <saiki> I have 2 issues, if someone can tell me how to fex these I'd appriciate it: 2.  I have to stop his korrupt system!
[05:08] <Nillerz> it's a server, why would you?
[05:08] <STWeston> LOL
[05:08] <STWeston> ...
[05:09] <Nillerz> I <3 capitalism
[05:09] <Nillerz> free market forevar
[05:09] <STWeston> LOL
[05:09] <STWeston> that was.... odd.
[05:10] <STWeston> what did it say?
[05:10] <amdpox> "requested by", love it
[05:10] <STWeston> ...
[05:10] <STWeston> requested by?
[05:10] <Nillerz> Heh
[05:10] <STWeston> did you two do this?
[05:10] <Nillerz> cody-somerville! I might have known!
[05:10] <STWeston> *curses in their general direction*
[05:10] <Nillerz> actually I didn't
[05:10]  * STWeston curses at amdpox
[05:11] <amdpox> quick, change the topic to debian-based distros using xfce frontends!
[05:11] <STWeston> LOL
[05:11] <STWeston> good one
[05:12] <paul928> STWeston: to view webpages on the server you might want to install a text-based browser like lynx
[05:12] <STWeston> okay
[05:12] <STWeston> well, I'm waiting for xubuntu to DL for this install, so it won't matter soon.
[05:13] <STWeston> but what's the command for Lynx?
[05:13] <amdpox> "lynx"
[05:13] <Nillerz> sudo apt-get install lynx ?
[05:13] <paul928> sudo apt-get install lynx
[05:13] <STWeston> okay
[05:13] <amdpox> I prefer links myself
[05:13] <paul928> elinks?
[05:13] <paul928> that works too
[05:13] <Nillerz> I prefer Opera
[05:14] <Nillerz> it's totally not a furry
[05:14] <amdpox> haha
[05:14] <Nillerz> unlike that fox thing...
[05:14] <paul928> opera doesn't work well without a xserver
[05:14] <Nillerz> nah
[05:14] <STWeston> apparently, because I'm DL'ing the xubuntu GUI, it's not gonna work.
[05:14] <Nillerz> ;_;
[05:14] <STWeston> sorry, guys
[05:15] <paul928> what won't work?
[05:15] <STWeston> DL'ing lynx
[05:15] <amdpox> ctrl+c  the current apt, then install lynx, then xubuntu again
[05:15] <amdpox> it keeps what you've downloaded so far
[05:15] <STWeston> okay
[05:15] <paul928> not until you're done with one download
[05:15] <amdpox> oh, does it restart incomplete files?
[05:16] <amdpox> I thought it did wget -c
[05:16] <STWeston> dang it! I just did that.
[05:17] <amdpox> sorry :/
[05:17] <amdpox> how much did you lose?
[05:17] <STWeston> oh, good. it didn't lose anything!
[05:17] <STWeston> it restarted
[05:17] <STWeston> I think
[05:18] <STWeston> well, I mean, it continued
[05:18] <STWeston> now, how do I start Lynx?
[05:18] <STWeston> just type lynx?
[05:19] <cody-somerville> try?
[05:19] <STWeston> or what?
[05:19] <STWeston> ...
[05:19] <Nillerz> type lynx, see what happense
[05:19] <STWeston> okay
[05:19] <STWeston> unable to read document
[05:20] <STWeston> er... access
[05:20] <cody-somerville> STWeston, look, you've been around since 2007. Why are you asking questions you obviously know the answer to?
[05:20] <STWeston> 2007? how would you know?
[05:20] <Nillerz> because of his own insecurities
[05:21] <Nillerz> he's deeply troubled and afraid of rejection
[05:21] <STWeston> I just installed my first linux distro this week!
[05:21] <Nillerz> i dunno
[05:21] <Nillerz> ooooh!!!
[05:21] <Nillerz> the plot twists
[05:21] <cody-somerville> STWeston, because someone was complaining about you asking questions in #ubuntu-installer and so I join the channel and I don't even have to wait to see who he is talking about because the last time I was in the channel back in December 2007 you were annoying people then too and it was right there in the backlog.
[05:22] <STWeston> what?
[05:22] <STWeston> I don't remember that.
[05:22] <Nillerz> wut
[05:22] <STWeston> honestly
[05:22] <Nillerz> maybe he had ubuntu installation problems
[05:22] <Nillerz> and now that he's solved them he's new again
[05:22] <STWeston> the guy was being helpful
[05:23] <cody-somerville> :P
[05:23] <cody-somerville> I'm going to bed. behave yourselves :P
[05:23] <STWeston> okay
[05:23] <STWeston> fine.
[05:23] <STWeston> but my question still stands.
[05:23] <STWeston> how do I start Lynx?
[05:23] <Nillerz> lynx
[05:23] <STWeston> tried. failed
[05:23] <Nillerz> type it, see what ahppans
[05:23] <Nillerz> sudo lynx
[05:23] <amdpox> what's a lineks? I typed in the letters you said but nothing happens
[05:24] <STWeston> still failed.
[05:24] <Nillerz> sudo su
[05:24] <STWeston> no. it's lynx
[05:24] <Nillerz> lynx
[05:24] <Nillerz> then get pissy and be like "LYNX!!!"
[05:24] <STWeston> LOL
[05:24] <amdpox> su -c sudo nohup lynx &
[05:24] <STWeston> ...
[05:24] <amdpox> DO IT]
[05:25] <STWeston> okay
[05:25] <STWeston> done... now what?
[05:25] <cody-somerville> ...
[05:25] <Nillerz> lynx
[05:25] <Nillerz> i dunno
[05:25] <STWeston> ...
[05:26] <Nillerz> ''\(o_O)/''
[05:26] <STWeston> should I just try a website?
[05:26] <Nillerz> ye
[05:26] <STWeston> okay. how do I do that, then?
[05:26] <STWeston> (please pardon my noobishness)
[05:26] <knome> ask #lynx
[05:26] <STWeston> thanks
[05:26] <Nillerz> So then I say "You call this a potato?"
[05:26] <paul928> lynx http://google.com
[05:26] <Nillerz> Then, get this: The hooker gave the money back.
[05:27] <knome> the big question is: will it blend?
[05:27] <Nillerz> A kitten? Easy.
[05:27] <saiki> NTFS = sda5 says it's mounted, ntfs-3g is installed, but it won't show up, why?
[05:27] <amdpox> I blended a blend-tec blender yesterday
[05:27] <amdpox> it was blendy
[05:27] <Nillerz> I didn't. It wasn't.
[05:28] <amdpox> saiki, more details?
[05:28] <Nillerz> how do u get flash in lynx i wan 2 watch utube
[05:28] <saiki> i don't have any more details
[05:29] <saiki> unless you got something specific you're looking for
[05:29] <Nillerz> So I was like "You call this a potato?"  I'm a teenager. give me some slack.
[05:31]  * cody-somerville pokes NCommander back into the developer cage.
[05:31]  * NCommander bites cody-somerville's head off
[05:31] <NCommander> bahahahah
[05:33] <saiki> amdpox: that didn't work
[05:33] <amdpox> saiki, I wanted the output of that command
[05:33] <saiki> none
[05:34] <amdpox> uhh, it is sda5, yes?
[05:34] <saiki> saiki@saiki-desktop:~$ mount | grep sda5
[05:34] <saiki> saiki@saiki-desktop:~$ sudo mount | grep sda5
[05:34] <saiki> saiki@saiki-desktop:~$ mount | grep sda5
[05:34] <amdpox> no no no, you said the partition you mounted was sda5
[05:34] <amdpox> but it's not
[05:34] <saiki> has to be
[05:35] <saiki> it shows up as sda5
[05:35] <amdpox> shows up as sda5 where?
[05:35] <saiki> I have, oddly.. 5/6/7/8 sdf1
[05:35] <amdpox> logical partitions I'm guessing
[05:36] <amdpox> mount -t ntfs /dev/sda5 /some/directory
[05:36] <saiki> yea
[05:37] <saiki> saiki@saiki-desktop:~$ sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda5 /media/sda5
[05:37] <saiki> NTFS signature is missing.
[05:37] <saiki> Failed to mount '/dev/sda5': Invalid argument
[05:37] <saiki> The device '/dev/sda5' doesn't have a valid NTFS.
[05:37] <saiki> Maybe you selected the wrong device? Or the whole disk instead of a
[05:37] <saiki> partition (e.g. /dev/hda, not /dev/hda1)? Or the other way around?
[05:37] <saiki> saiki@saiki-desktop:~$
[05:38] <amdpox> So, it's not an NTFS partition
[05:39] <amdpox> what is it then?
[05:39] <STWeston> cody-somerville: the backlog goes back THAT far???
[05:39] <saiki> um.. it IS an ntfs system
[05:40] <saiki> but it's missing 4 partions so it looks
[05:40] <saiki> 1 is obvious, it's not any recognisable filesystem
[05:41] <saiki> how do you take a snapshot in xubutu?
[05:41] <saiki> xubuntu*
[05:42] <NCommander> saiki, snapshot tool
[05:42] <saiki> package name?
[05:42] <NCommander> Right click a panel, click add item, then snapshot
[05:42] <NCommander> it should be installed in base
[05:44] <saiki> thx NCommander
[05:44] <NCommander> np
[05:45] <saiki> amdpox: http://www.snapdrive.net/files/496157/Screenshot.png
[05:47] <amdpox> saiki, can you put the contents of /etc/fstab on a pastebin for me?
[05:47] <amdpox> I believe that information comes from fstab, not from the drive itself
[05:47] <saiki> sure can
[05:49] <saiki> http://pastebin.com/d7f0ed7ad
[05:49] <saiki> I have 2 ntfs partions, 2 drives
[05:50] <amdpox> oh, ok, interesting
[05:50] <saiki> sdf1 and should be another on sda
[05:50] <amdpox> odd
[05:51] <saiki> sdf = usb hd
[05:51] <amdpox> ok, so what's the issue agia?
[05:51] <amdpox> *again
[05:51] <saiki> internal Vista partion won't mount
[05:53] <NCommander> Oh, a rescue parition?
[05:57] <saiki> no
[05:57] <saiki> dualboot
[05:57] <saiki> well... triboot lol
[05:57] <saiki> oh wait..
[05:57] <saiki> will xubuntu 32bit NOT mount 64bit parions?
[05:58] <saiki> partions*
[05:58] <STWeston> I'd think
[05:59] <saiki> ?
[05:59] <STWeston> I'd think that would be the case
[06:00] <saiki> might be why it's not, but I don't see what difference 64 vs 32 bit makes on an external os
[06:00] <saiki> ie Vista on linux
[06:01] <STWeston> the architecture may be 64bit, therefore linux won't work unless on 64bit as well
[06:01] <STWeston> just speculation.
[06:02] <saiki> oh that blows
[06:02] <STWeston> yeah...
[06:02] <saiki> lucky for me, my usb was formatted on 32bit lol
[06:02] <STWeston> LOL
[06:02] <amdpox> uhhh
[06:03] <saiki> ?
[06:03] <amdpox> 64-bit architecture doesn't change the filesystem, does it !?
[06:03] <STWeston> I think so... maybe.
[06:03] <saiki> idk, but that's my only idea as to why it won't
[06:03] <STWeston> it's always a possibility.
[06:04] <saiki> where's the buntu devs when we need'em?
[06:04] <saiki> lol
[06:04] <STWeston> dunno.
[06:04] <fluxshell> i have a relatively long string i need to paste into terminal but for some reason right click isn't working, isn't there another way i thought i heard someone talking about here one day?
[06:04] <fluxshell> i just want to copy and paste to uninstall google earth
[06:05] <STWeston> this-a-way? (>")> that-a-way? <("<)
[06:05] <STWeston> LOL
[06:07] <saiki> ?
[06:08] <STWeston> it's an emoticon. <(")>
[06:08] <STWeston> kinda.

[06:09]  * amdpox slaps STWeston with a wet <(>_<)>
[06:09]  * STWeston does something back to amdpox
[06:10]  * amdpox gasps
[06:10]  * saiki grabs a 2x4 and wacks'em both
[06:10] <STWeston> well, that was nice, saiki.
[06:10] <amdpox> very nice.

[06:10] <saiki> solves the issue, does it not?
[06:10] <saiki> lol
[06:10] <STWeston> LOL
[06:11] <STWeston> gd pt.
[06:11] <amdpox> watch out, or i'll tell rms you use proprietary software
[06:11] <STWeston> LOL
[06:11] <saiki> rms?
[06:11] <STWeston> I just got the proprietary software part.
[06:12] <saiki> Nvidia, yea lol
[06:12] <STWeston> well, I AM on a Mac, right now...
[06:12] <STWeston> I'll admit that.
[06:12] <amdpox> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman
[06:12] <STWeston> hey! xubuntu is done!
[06:12] <STWeston> downloading... I think
[06:14] <STWeston> did'ja know that my computer's facing the wrong way right now?
[06:14] <STWeston> the CD-ROM drive and front end and stuff are facing the back of my desk.
[06:15] <saiki> lol
[06:15] <STWeston> I know. it's weird.
[06:18] <STWeston> whelp, I'm'a shut down.
[06:18] <STWeston> thanks, guys!
[06:18] <STWeston> for... whatever.
[06:22] <saiki> um.. just thought of this: Ubuntu (GNOME) would mount it, but xfe4 won't
[13:00] <j00bacca> (:-< sad jew
[13:01] <Myrtti> hmmm?
[13:43] <nnull> the secondary drive i had xubuntu on failed and now grub errors on boot not allowing me to boot to xp to try make space on another drive to install, how do i remove grub?
[13:43] <nnull> format my mbr?
[13:43] <nnull> or?
[13:52] <jarnos> nnull: Try e.g. Super grub disk or  fdisk /mbr in ms-dos to get xp.
[13:52] <nnull> i have got supergrub around somewhere but its on dvd i think lol :x
[13:53] <nnull> jarnosƺ can i get to ms-dos from the xp cd>
[13:54] <jarnos> nnull: maybe
[14:00] <jarnos> nnull: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/69013
[14:01] <nnull> ta
[14:14] <jarnos> nnull: Maybe you could install grub to a windows partition by an ubuntu live cd?
[14:15] <jarnos> nnull: stage 1 to mbr an other stuff to a windows partition.
[14:20] <nnull> i installed xubuntu on a faulty harddrive last night took like 5 hours heh
[14:20] <JinKazama> hi. how to set screensaver to ask for password before close?
[14:20] <nnull> but the pc is a p3 600 128ram
[14:21] <nnull> wasnt too bad was running 80 mem, 120 swap, but the cpu was spiking a bit
[14:34] <jarnos> nnull: Installing puppy-linux would have been faster but it is not the same thing and I am not sure how you get security updates to that.
[14:36] <jarnos> nnull: (X)ubuntu installation is not the fastest one.
[14:44] <march> Hi :) Does anyone know whom I can contact at canonical to get COF pics in good quality for our wiki?
[14:50] <TheSheep> COF?
[14:56] <nnull> jarnosƺ ive got the puppy live cd but mfg its annoying
[14:56] <nnull> scans ure whole filesystem for puppy files..
[14:56] <nnull> yes lets wait for that!
[14:58] <favro> nnull: there is #puppylinux...
[14:58] <nnull> favroƺ been there for 5+ hours
[14:58] <nnull> alot of chans on this network are there but arent there at the same time
[14:59] <favro> nnull: when you close puppy it will ask about making that file
[14:59] <nnull> favro, yea but i dont want to make/read any files i just wanna go in mount send and begone with it heh
[15:00] <favro> k
[15:00] <nnull> it takes it like 4mins to search my hdds for this file, which i dont need rather annoying
[15:00] <nnull> and i cant even find a way for it to stop it scanning
[15:00] <nnull> gives u 5 seconds to try read and input the commands and auto boots
[15:01] <nnull> ripped my cdrom drive out of it socket last night trying to get it to work
[15:01] <nnull> but i fixed it heh
[15:01] <nnull> RAGE X_X
[15:07] <march> TheSheep: Circle Of friends
[15:11] <march> http://crunchbang.org/uploads/050108100304-ubuntu-people-300-369.jpg e.g.
[15:50] <kriel> I just recently installed xubuntu on this laptop. It's relatively new (though it's a refurb) and has c2duo 1.86GHz; 3G RAM. However, programs are randomly hanging and music files can take as long as 10-20s to load. Any suggestions for where I might start troubleshooting?
[15:51] <TheSheep> kriel: see if dmesg shows any suspicious log messages
[15:53] <kriel> Nothing looks too suspicious to me; then again, my eyes aren't trained that well.
[15:56] <march> encrypted system kriel?
[15:57] <kriel> nope; just told the install disk to partition it on its own.
[16:00] <kriel__> Aaaand my GDM just hosed on itself. Did I miss anything?
[16:01] <kriel__> s/GDM/XFCE/
[16:09] <jarnos> Is it normal that writing in Firefox is pretty unresponsive occasionally?
[16:10] <TheSheep> no, unless you have some weird addons installed
[16:13] <knome> yes it is :P
[17:10] <IamInnocent> I need help with a shortcut
[17:10] <IamInnocent> something is intercepting Alt-right click
[17:10] <IamInnocent> and I don't know what.
[17:10] <IamInnocent> I looked everywhere in  the keyboart shortcuts
[17:11] <IamInnocent> and also I tried the shortcuts here and there
[17:11] <IamInnocent> hoping that something would pop-up
[17:11] <IamInnocent> to no avail
[17:11] <IamInnocent> This shortcut is the all important select loops in Blender
[17:12] <IamInnocent> I'd like to get it back
[17:12] <IamInnocent> Otherwise Xubuntu proves itself to be the fast OS I hoped for
[17:38] <Eeyore-Jr> hi.  i have a widescreen monitor and i need to change the reslotion in xubuntu to 10xx by 8xx
[17:55] <IamInnocent> All right I found it myself
[18:01] <Ahmuck> how do i change my resoltuion from 10xx by 7xx ?
[18:44] <bytor4232> Ahmuck: Open a terminal and run:  sudo displayconfig-gtk
[19:53] <flyback> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg_JB1P-HBk&feature=related# <--since people always wonder wtf my nick means


[15:51] <minimal> holmanb: FYI, Openstack now supports IPv6 access to their metadata server: "Changed in version 22.0.0: Starting with the Victoria release the metadata service is accessible over IPv6 at the link-local address fe80::a9fe:a9fe."
[15:52] <minimal> more info at https://docs.openstack.org/nova/latest/user/metadata.html


[17:57] <foxATworkstation> LTE (4G) it come more wide popular, in 2011 most of Europen and Asia  Mobile Telecommunication Company offer a high speed Internet 70 MB/s
[17:59] <foxATworkstation> It's consider a support this type of device, witch use to connecting to internet, like mobile phone 4G, modem 4G or other device in 4G LTE technology


[12:13] <BHSPitLappy> heh
[12:14] <BHSPitLappy> Flannel, omugosh, they use the word "bling"
[12:14] <Flannel> BHSPitLappy: maybe that's why it's not linked ;)
[12:15] <BHSPitLappy> heh
[12:15] <BHSPitLappy> SEEKING:  Better promotional writer
[12:15] <Flannel> and better web developer, emphasis on usability
[12:19] <BHSPitLappy> don't you find it funny how the most tech-related entities have the worst web presences
[12:19] <BHSPitLappy> Fry's being a shining example
[12:20] <Flannel> Yeah.  All OSS products have webpages that don't tell you what it does, just give you the most recent changelogs
[01:03] <jenda> If anyone sees beuno, please torture him a bit. I need to know when he'll be arriving in Prague and where.
[03:54] <gerry> hello all
[03:56] <gerry> what's ronnie tucker's irc name?
[03:57] <jenda> ronnietucker, as far as i kno w:)
[03:57] <jenda> gerry: they are splitters ;) look for them in #fullcirclemagazine
[03:58] <gerry> there's been a schism?
[03:58] <gerry> the dark truth emerges
[03:58] <jenda> no, they've been like that since the beginning :)
[08:06] <beuno> jenda: ping
[08:21] <jenda> beuno: pong
[08:21] <jenda> beuno: when/wher? :)
[08:21] <jenda> *e
[08:23] <jenda> gah
[08:29] <tsmithe> jenda, i don't think 10" will be long enough
[08:29] <jenda> Soon, it will :)
[08:30] <tsmithe> 10,000 miles, maybe
[08:31] <jenda> bah
[08:32] <jenda> 11831 km :)
[08:32] <jenda> 7352 mi
[08:33] <jenda> I can't believe I had to look up the capital of Argentina on wikipedia.
[08:33] <jenda> All work and no play makes jenda a dull boy
[08:33] <jenda> All bork ane yo pray takes jenga a pull toy
[08:34] <jenda> Ale born ace it prat tames benga a pulp foy
[08:36] <jenda> Ole worn act if drat names ben gay pump coy
[08:36] <jenda> *ops
[08:37] <jenda> There was that funny screensaver, dunno if Ubuntu still has it in it.
[08:37] <Tm_T> jenda: well it is
[08:37] <Tm_T> still there
[08:37] <beuno> jenda: hey
[08:37] <beuno> I'm in london!
[08:37] <jenda> finally! :)
[08:37] <jenda> Oh, I'm sorry.
[08:38] <jenda> I hope you make it through that difficult stage in life.
[08:38] <jenda> :)
[08:38] <beuno> jenda: I'll be heading your way the 27th  :D
[08:38] <jenda> ok :)
[08:38] <jenda> what time do you arrive?
[08:39] <beuno> jenda: let me check  :D7
[08:40] <jenda> :)
[08:40] <beuno> jenda:
[08:40] <beuno> Wednesday 27 June
[08:40] <beuno> London Gatwick (South Terminal) To Prague; flight 5495 dep. Wed 27 Jun 18:20; arr. Wed 27 Jun 21:20
[08:40] <beuno> Check in opens Wed 27 Jun 16:20; Closes Wed 27 Jun 17:40
[08:41] <beuno> jenda: when are we leaving for dresden. and when are we getting back?
[08:41] <jenda> BTW, the word transformation is actually quite a good game when you need to entertain some people and have no better ideas - just give them two words of the same number of letters, and the person/team who transforms the word letter-by-letter in the least amount of steps within a time limit wins. Each step has to be a valid word.
 :)
[08:41] <jenda> hmm
[08:41] <jenda> good time
[08:42] <jenda> I'll have enough pubtime after the exam, and might even get home to clean up a bit before you arrive :)
[08:42] <jenda> We leave for dresden at midnight 28 June and come back 29 hours later.
[08:43] <jenda> beuno: 21:20 is local time?
[08:43] <beuno> jenda: that's a good question...  I should find that out...
[08:43] <jenda> If it's on the ticket, it should be.
[08:45] <beuno> yeah, I think it is
[08:45] <jenda> cool
[08:45] <jenda> I'll be there.
[08:45] <jenda> Please excuse me if I'm a bit late.
[08:45] <jenda> :)
[08:45] <jenda> And a bit drunk...
[08:45] <jenda> :D
[08:45] <jenda> Just kidding, I don't get drunk that easily ;)
[08:45] <beuno> jenda: lol
[08:46] <beuno> email me your phone number   ;)
[08:46] <jenda> 739058237
[08:46] <jenda> how's that for emailin' ;)
[08:46] <jenda> or make that +420739058237
[08:46] <jenda> it's a cell phone.
[08:47] <jenda> I absolutely hate the thing, so there's a decent chance it'll be outta power, at home or thrown down a drain.
[08:47] <beuno> jenda: great, thanks
[08:47] <beuno> when would be going and getting back from dresden?
[08:47] <jenda> read above :)
[08:47] <jenda> We leave for dresden at midnight 28 June and come back 29 hours later.
[08:47] <beuno> cool
[08:47] <jenda> midnight 28/29 June
[08:48] <beuno> that works out great
[08:48] <jenda> we gotta be there earlier to hunt for freed up spaces.
[08:48] <beuno> jenda: you leed the way
[08:48] <jenda> if none appear, we go back to drinking, as previously planned, and take a hitch the next day :)
[08:48] <jenda> sure :)
[08:49] <jenda> yikes
[08:49] <jenda> but no biggie
[08:50] <beuno> jenda: what?  I might be heading to Munich for the weekend, I might not...
[08:50] <beuno> if that works out for you, I can push it a bit more then I am
[08:50] <jenda> on thursday, I'm going to the party of my old school - you can either come with me, or take a break from my exhausting presence ;)
[08:51] <jenda> as for the weekend - that's entirely up to you.
[08:51] <beuno> jenda: heh, you've mentioned that before!
[08:51] <jenda> I know :)
[08:51] <jenda> It was the conflict of plans - because I was also intending to go to the gym at the same time, and that kinda doesn't fit :D
[08:52] <beuno> I don't mind getting drunk at all
[08:52] <jenda> hehehe
[08:52] <beuno> aaaaah
[08:52] <beuno> lol
[08:52] <jenda> it won't be much of a drinking party
[08:52] <beuno> you can do both (?)
[08:52] <jenda> likely not :)
[08:52] <jenda> it'll be a large outdoor party with music, beer, and lots of people (200)
[08:52] <jenda> most of whom I know or at least recognise
[08:53] <jenda> and with each of those I meet I'll have a discussion along the lines of our well being, what I do nowadays, ah law, that's interesting, blah, blah ;)
[08:53] <jenda> So, it might get a little bit boring for you - on the other hand, you can leave at any time :)
[08:53] <beuno> jenda: right, we'll see, I can adapt, so don't worry about it
[08:54] <jenda> cool :)
[08:54] <jenda> haha
[08:55] <jenda> beuno: well, perhaps there will be much less people there.
[08:55] <jenda> beuno: they are doing it in a new area, different from last year, and there's no-smoking ;)
[08:55] <jenda> considering 90% of the students at that school smoke... tut, tut, tut...
[08:55] <jenda> or maybe that number fell drastically with my class graduating :D
[08:56] <beuno> jenda: heh, we'll see, I haven't slept in like 48hs, so I can't really think too much at the moment...
[08:56] <jenda> beuno: don't ;)
[08:56] <jenda> (think)
[08:56] <jenda> do sleep, though.
[08:57] <beuno> :p
[08:57] <beuno> I will, I just need to eat first, and then I'll sleep a good 11 hours to hit london tourism again
[08:57] <jenda> :)
[08:57] <jenda> ok, enjoy.
[08:58] <jenda> I'll get back to studying now.
[08:58] <Vorian> my sister in law is flying through London today
[08:58] <jenda> Vorian: did you see my ping in #ubuntu-locoteams and intentionally ignored it? :)
[08:59] <Vorian> nope
[08:59] <Vorian> sorry
[08:59] <Vorian> I've been in and out all day
[08:59] <Vorian> pong: jenda
[08:59] <Vorian> :)
[08:59] <jenda> hehe
 olive, elkbuntu, Vorian, juliux (ye old faithfuls ;)) - new stickers available: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=433719 </spam>
[08:59] <jenda> oops
[08:59] <jenda> damn
[08:59] <jenda> sorry, elkbuntu, juliux for the second ping
[08:59] <juliux> jenda, spammer!
[08:59] <Vorian> lol
[08:59] <jenda> hehe
[09:00] <juliux> we should but jenda on spamhous
[09:00] <jenda> juliux: well, that for sure ;)
[09:00] <Vorian> jenda, are you going to digg it?
[09:00] <jenda> Yes, I am :)
[09:00] <Vorian> I had a digg on the front page saturday :)
[09:00] <jenda> I was thinking of waiting for a better time (such as after exams... ;))
[09:01] <jenda> cool
[09:01] <Vorian> lol
[09:01] <jenda> A digg needs a lot of loving to get up on the front page, and when it gets there, it's 24/7 email answering :D
[09:02] <Vorian> :)
[09:02] <jenda> I had 4 diggs so far, and 3 made it up there ;)
[09:02] <Vorian> it was the How to on Compiz Fusion
[09:02] <jenda> cool :)
[09:02] <jenda> Ever heard of LavaMind?
[09:02] <Vorian> nope
[09:03] <jenda> Tiny software company - I just exchanged a few emails with the guy running it and linked him to that video you linked to :)
[09:03] <jenda> no response to that particular mail yet.
[09:03] <Vorian> hmm
[09:03] <Vorian> video games?
[09:03] <jenda> I asked them if they'd thought of opensourcing their game(s) - and while very friendly, I don't think they'll do a thing ;)
[09:03] <jenda> yep
[09:03] <Vorian> kewl
[09:04] <jenda> I used to really like gazillionaire deluxe - even though I only had the demo :)
[09:04] <Vorian> hehe
[09:04] <Vorian> I like the name
[09:04] <jenda> (And now, I DL'd the full version (shhhh!), and am testing it on wine)
[09:04] <jenda> hehe
[09:04] <Vorian> nice
[09:04] <jenda> their other two games in the series are zapitalism and profitania :)
[09:05] <Vorian> I wonder if they would be interested in the Ohio Linux Fest.....
[09:05] <jenda> no idea, but likely not ;)
[09:05] <jenda> his mention of Ubuntu was more of a polite thing than anything else.
[09:06] <Vorian> ah, too bad
[09:06] <Vorian> woah!
[09:06] <jenda> "I heard Ubuntu's good and getting better. Also heard they're making a new graphics engine for it."
[09:06] <jenda> something like that
[09:06] <Vorian> jack sparrow is on #ubuntu :)
[09:06] <jenda> who is j.s.?
[09:06] <Vorian> from the movie
[09:06] <jenda> erm...
[09:06] <jenda> Jack sparrow... hmm...
[09:07] <jenda> Mission impossible? :)
[09:07] <jenda> Nah, I remember - 'tis the pirate guy, right?
[09:07] <Vorian> arr
[09:07] <jenda> I only rememebered that because my best friend thinks he's hot ;)
[09:08] <Vorian> so do I :0
[09:08] <jenda> Although she's never said it like that - it's just that whenever Mr. Depp acts in a movie, she totally loves the movie regardless of what's in it ;)
[09:08] <Vorian> :)
[09:08] <Vorian> those are pretty kewl stickers
[09:09] <jenda> :)
[09:09] <jenda> double-sided!
[09:09] <jenda> think about it... on your car rear window... ;)
[09:09] <jenda> or one of the side mirrors, just above "objects in mirror are closer than they appear"
[09:10] <jenda> Back to work for me. Laters!
[09:12] <Vorian> jenda, I'll take 1000 btw
[09:12] <jenda> O_O
[09:12] <jenda> Seriously?
[09:12] <Vorian> for $60?
[09:12] <Vorian> sure
[09:12] <jenda> 100, you mean? :)
[09:13] <Vorian> ah
[09:13] <jenda> 1000 is the entire batch
[09:13] <jenda> you can have that for $500 ;)
[09:13] <jenda> (it costs me $600, though, as it is)
[09:13] <jenda> cool
[09:14] <Vorian> now get back to work
[09:14] <Vorian> :)
[09:14] <jenda> laters :)
[09:14] <Vorian> :)
[10:20] <tonyyarusso> It seems that screenshot links on the UWN archives break.  For instance, see Issue 29, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue29#head-7f104fc09aef115eabff68812346d0cdace17e4f