[02:46] <eitan> Pelo:  I havent tried installing kde by itself, just kubuntu-desktop
[02:46] <o_0> nvm
[02:46] <devz0r> i'm having trouble getting a dell printer to print right
[02:46] <Ireclan> Guys, it doesn't have a driver that says "Intel"...
[02:46] <NkZ> Oh, Will do, Thanks. :-) Very kind Pelo.
[02:46] <DjBrix> How can i emulate an adsl line so i can connect 2 computers one as isp and other as a client?
[02:46] <Pelo> eitan,  same thing ( more or less ),  does the kubuntu desktop work ?
[02:46] <NkZ> BTW, your nick means "Hair" in spanish, which is kinda weird. ha ha ha
[02:46] <devz0r> i have the driver installed and it's set up to print in 8.5 x 11 but it keeps wanting to print in A4 format, which i don't use and isn't loaded
[02:46] <Ireclan> It has several drivers that begin with "i", however.
[02:46] <o_0> brb
[02:46] <Pelo> NkZ,  tell me something I don't know
[02:46] <Ireclan> Are those it?
[02:47] <DjBrix> Hey can i get help or not
[02:47] <ConstyXIV> ireclan: try looking for something with 8284 in it
[02:47] <NkZ> Hmmmm 1+1= 10
[02:47] <mackinac> !patience
[02:47] <HP_Vue> Are any of the developers in here?
[02:47] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:47] <cables> !patience | DjBrix
[02:47] <ubotu> DjBrix: please see above
[02:47] <Pelo> DjBrix,  have you considered that no one here knows the answer to your question ?
[02:47] <genejack> is there a specific way to burn ISO image on CD-R using K3B?
[02:47] <DjBrix> i dont know?
[02:47] <cables> DjBrix, ask your question again, some new people might be here
[02:47] <Pelo> HP_Vue, no, devs don't hang out here
[02:48] <Ireclan> Nope. Shall I list what it has?
[02:48] <__mikem> !repeat
[02:48] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:48] <ConstyXIV> genejack: i think you just open it
[02:48] <DjBrix> How can i emulate an adsl line so i can connect 2 computers one as isp and other as a client?
[02:48] <gumpish> Is there a way to get to fdisk from any of the CDs without booting into Linux or at least without loading X?
[02:48] <HP_Vue> Has any of the devs ever been in here?
[02:48] <cables> DjBrix, okay, no idea... not even sure if that's possible.
[02:48] <[reed] > can anybody resolve us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[02:48] <genejack> ConstyXIV, open it using K3B?
[02:48] <DjBrix> cables it has to be!
[02:48] <[reed] > I can resolve archive.ubuntu.com fine, but us.archive.ubuntu.com is coming back NXDOMAIN
[02:48] <ConstyXIV> genejack: i think so.
[02:49] <Xenguy> Hi - I'm trying to remember a command that is similar to 'id' - it tells you what 'groups' your userid is in -- ring any bells?
[02:49] <[reed] > Xenguy: uh, `groups`?
[02:49] <[reed] > :p
[02:49] <gumpish> [reed] : ditto
[02:49] <eitan> Pelo, no, i get broken dependencies with hwdb-client-kde and speedcrunch
[02:49] <Xenguy> [reed] : hah - I think you're right :-)
[02:49] <Ireclan> ConstyXIV?
[02:49] <[reed] > gumpish: ugh, that breaks apt
[02:49] <DjBrix> cables i have ubunto as an isp and i need to share the services of ubuntu to the other computer
[02:49] <Pelo> eitan,  install them using synaptic, should be easy enough, then resintall kubuntu-desktop
[02:49] <Xenguy> [reed] : I had this brain fart :P
[02:49] <[reed] > is there somewhere where I can tell the sysadmins?
[02:50] <gumpish> lucky for me my university maintains its own repo. =)
[02:50] <Locksmith> I have an error that is global across users that is driving me crazy
[02:50] <Ireclan> ConstyXIV?
[02:51] <Locksmith> screen resolution app gives an error >>>An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for gnome-display-properties. Some of your configuration settings may not work properly.
[02:51] <mindstate> is there a way i can check my version of gtk that i have installed?
[02:51] <chronic1> anyone here have experience with the GFORGE package
[02:51] <Pelo> mindstate, terminal  gtk --version
[02:51] <DjBrix> cables reasking the question how can i connect 2 dsl modems as an isp does with the client
[02:51] <chronic1> trying to work through some issues that are already reported in the "bugzilla"
[02:52] <Locksmith> DETAILS lists this error >>> Bad key or directory name: "/desktop/gnome/screen//0/resolution": Can't have two slashes (/) in a row
[02:52] <Pelo> DjBrix,  check the forum for your problem
[02:52] <mindstate> Pelo: when i try that..it says gtk command not found..does that mean gtk isnt installed..and if so how do i install it?
[02:52] <matthew1421> how do i get rid of the arts server fatal error sound problme?
[02:53] <Pelo> mindstate,  check in synaptic to make sure it is installed or not, the version number is also dislplayed there,  btw, if you are running gnome gtk is installed
[02:53] <ConstyXIV> Ireclan: wataminute, googling around to find the name of your driver
[02:53] <mindstate> Pelo: i am running gnome
[02:53] <Pelo> mindstate,  then you have gtk installed,   btw  edgy runs gtk 2.0 at least
[02:53] <Locksmith> Is there a way to rebuild gnome and rerun configurations to get rid of this error
[02:54] <mindstate> Pelo: alright then i should be good thanks
[02:54] <PetFish> Welcome to #Ubuntu - No one really knows the answer to your question. ... :/
[02:54] <britt> i configured tpconfig to turn off tapping, I instructed the KDE synaptics prog to disable tapping, but yet i still have tapping enabled. What gives?
[02:54] <[reed] > PetFish: They just pretender they do.
[02:54] <[reed] > -r
[02:54] <[reed] > -e
[02:54] <[reed] > :(
[02:54] <PetFish> :p
[02:54] <cables> DjBrix, this is probably not the place to ask.
[02:54] <PetFish> Just thought the channel needing livening up :p
[02:55] <Pelo> slapping ppl around is very lively
[02:55] <PetFish> Sooo... I am using Edgy with ntfs-3g for an external NTFS Formatted drive - Do I still have to defrag the drive because of the fs? If so, please how. If not, Why not?
[02:55] <EdgEy> sudo diff -r /media/hdb5/videos/music/ /home/edgey/music/
[02:55] <EdgEy> is that the correct way to find differences between 2 folders?
[02:56] <EdgEy> nautilus tells me there are different amounts of files, when i just copied the folder ..
[02:56] <EdgEy> i need to make sure before i delete the old folder
[02:56] <Pelo> PetFish,  I seem to remember someone telling me that ntfs drives don'T need to be defraged like the fat32 did
[02:56] <matthew1421> how do I disable the arts server fatal error problem with sound?
[02:56] <NET||abuse> hey all, where's the best debs to use for the non-free video codecs.. looking through the faq they don't show the deb lines to use.
[02:56] <Pelo> EdgEy,  check for hidden files
[02:57] <mackinac> EdgEy, http://www.ss64.com/bash/diff.html
[02:57] <EdgEy> it's the correct way to do it but it's taking forever, does diff verify each byte of the file
[02:57] <EdgEy> or just that theyare there and the same size
[02:57] <gumpish> NET||abuse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[02:57] <PetFish> Pelo - Thankyou :x
[02:58] <Eleazar> hi i'm trying to get giftoxic to work on my ubuntu edgy, but it gives me a segmentation default error after launch and closes inmediatly, anyone knows where else i can get it?
[02:58] <elpargo> hi could someone point me to a guide to configure my monitor
[02:58] <cables> !x | elpargo
[02:58] <ubotu> elpargo: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:59] <xtknight> elpargo: configure as in setup for linux or calibrate the monitor panel itself?
[02:59] <zackglennie> question for whoever: where do I change the "window snap" settings in GNOME?
[03:00] <elpargo> cables, thanks but I'm talking about something more advanced, I believe the "Generic Monitor" in my xorg.conf is causing beryl to lag.
[03:00] <Pelo> elpargo,  consider asking for help in #beryl
[03:00] <o_0> um, cafuego.. your pkg froze my ubuntu now it won't load.
[03:00] <Ireclan> ConstyXIV, I'll be right back, OK?
[03:01] <ronaldo_> hi all, is it possoble to install ubuntun via nfs?
[03:01] <elpargo> zackglennie, what do you mean by snap? everything is configurable with the program call gconf-editor
[03:01] <feryana> Folks
[03:01] <genejack> what is a sure-fire way to check if the CD is bootable?
[03:01] <zbadone> I had a DAT* tape drive, made some backups, just got a newer DDS3 tape drive unit, CANT seem to read my old tapes, are they the same format? I backed up via tar cvf /dev/st0
[03:01] <zbadone> DAT8
[03:01] <feryana> does anyone know how to install the nintendo wi-fi usb connector? I can't emulate it!!!!!!!!!!
[03:01] <zackglennie> elpargo: it's a setting that makes it easier to line windows up next to each other
[03:01] <cables> genejack, put a bootable CD in and see if it works
[03:01] <o_0> cafuego....
[03:01] <elpargo> Pelo, no this has nothing to do with aiglx or beryl is my monitor settings.
[03:01] <genejack> what if it doesn't?
[03:01] <cables> feryana, i don't think you can on Linux
[03:02] <o_0> your pkg killed my install
[03:02] <elpargo> genejack, boot from it?
[03:02] <zackglennie> elpargo: when you're moving or resizing a window, it "snaps" into place if you get it near the border of another window
[03:02] <rubix_> hey whats that command to reconfigure x, like dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[03:02] <zackglennie> eh, I gotta go
[03:02] <genejack> ok, let me ask you a more intelligent question..
[03:02] <feryana> omg... I thought so cables... and there is something to connect the wii thru linux?
[03:02] <zackglennie> desperate housewives time
[03:02] <norty> can anyone help me??
[03:02] <Kenny> !Error 18
[03:02] <norty> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=358636&page=2
[03:02] <elpargo> zackglennie, ahh yes that's metacity, in the tool I told you it should be under that set of keys I don't know the exact path
[03:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about error 18 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:02] <cables> feryana, you can buy a router for probably about the same price as the DS WiFi connector...
[03:02] <genejack> if i am creatingt a data cd with an ISO image, using K3B, how do I select "bootable" option?
[03:03] <Pelo> later folks
[03:03] <mzanfardino> I'm attempting an apt-get update and failing to reach a number of ubnutu pathes... is there something down somewhere?
[03:03] <zbadone> I had a DAT8 tape drive, made some backups, just got a newer DDS3 tape drive unit, CANT seem to read my old tapes, are they the same format? I backed up via tar cvf /dev/st0
[03:03] <elpargo> cableroy, xtknight Pelo can we please up the "user level" I know how to write a xorg.conf by hand I just need a pointer to where are the values I should set for ubuntu
[03:03] <feryana> I hate routers... well thanks cables.  I will change my dsl speed so i'll request a wifi + cable modem.  Those work on linux rght? Dont need drivers
[03:03] <cables> genejack, you shouldn't be creating a data cd... you need to burn the ISO as an image. I know that in Gnome you can just rightclick the ISO and click burn to CD, but I'm not sure how to do it in KDE.
[03:03] <gumpish> mzanfardino: apparently
[03:04] <norty> can anyone please help me? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=358636&page=2
[03:04] <xtknight> elpargo: hehe.  user level upped! :P
[03:04] <elpargo> the generic monitor with only DPMS, I believe it's causing my lag. I'm used to set h and v resolutions and all
[03:04] <xtknight> elpargo: umm well "generic monitor" would likely not cause your lag
[03:04] <mzanfardino> gumpish: apparently as in I'm not the only one?
[03:05] <xtknight> elpargo: dpms is a power management mode.  your graphics card is still sending 60 hz to your monitor, as it really doesnt matter if your monitor is called "generic monitor" or "viewsonic vp930b" or whatever it is
[03:05] <sadistico> heatman: ok so i read the faq and have followed these two links to the "T"
[03:05] <sadistico> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224350
[03:05] <cables> norty, you didn't back up?
[03:05] <sadistico> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102
[03:05] <xtknight> elpargo: as for sync rates, if the picture is fine, the signal refresh rates are correct as well
[03:05] <x2mjokada> hey guys, i need some help.  I have a folder on my desktop that i want to delete, but when i go to move it to the trash, it says 'access denied'. how can i get rid of it?
[03:05] <sadistico> im stuck on the first link with the su command
[03:05] <genejack> cables, thanx, i think i figured it out, the name of the file (...iso.part) prevented linux from recognizing it as CDimage
[03:05] <cables> norty, if you changed the format of the partition, it's way too late...
[03:05] <genejack> many thanx
[03:05] <sadistico> it keeps saying su: Authentication failure
[03:06] <cha0s> hello, i just (re-)installed ubuntu, and theres a process running called 'scrollkeeper-update' that's taking 100% cpu, has been running for about 10 minutes now
[03:06] <norty> i can copy the files, its not too late
[03:06] <cha0s> anything i can do?
[03:06] <elpargo> norty, what file system?
[03:06] <cha0s> can i safely kill that?
[03:06] <norty> ntfs
[03:06] <cables> norty, you formatted the drive from ntfs to linux-swap... the data's gone.
[03:06] <norty> no iots not
[03:06] <norty> FUI
[03:06] <norty> CK:
[03:06] <elpargo> xtknight, so your positive that changing the defaults wont up my performance?
[03:06] <norty> i already copied the data from the partition to then linux partition its not gone
[03:07] <sadistico> *ungh good grief charllie brown I just want my wireless to work -=
[03:07] <cables> norty, if you already copied it, copy it to somewhere else...
[03:07] <mackinac> x2mjokada, sudo rmdir "path to folder"
[03:07] <norty> yea where?
[03:07] <norty> i have no room on that partition
[03:07] <cables> norty, get a USB drive...
[03:07] <bruenig> x2mjokada, sudo rm -rf whatever
[03:07] <norty> how would I copy it to a usb drive
[03:07] <norty> i dont know linux that well
[03:07] <cables> norty, how can you access the files now?
[03:07] <norty> ya
[03:07] <cables> norty, plug USB drive in, drag files over.
[03:07] <norty> i mounted the partition
[03:07] <cha0s> hey nmevermind, sorry, now it stopped
[03:07] <elpargo> norty, if I assume correctly your migrating from win to ubuntu and want to move all your music, code, whatever right?
[03:07] <norty> i cant see them
[03:08] <cables> norty, usb drives?
[03:08] <norty> im just trying to get the files off my copmuter so i can reformat it
[03:08] <elpargo> if u have 120G I suggest you use DVD or something
[03:08] <sadistico> can anyone help me with my wireless problem?
[03:08] <norty> i mounted the partition to a folder on my desktop
[03:08] <norty> i cant access the folder because i dont have permission
[03:08] <norty> i tried changing the permission but for some reason it didn't work
[03:08] <norty> so i created a new folder
[03:08] <norty> copied the files there
[03:08] <norty> changed permission
[03:08] <norty> and was able to access the files
[03:08] <elpargo> norty, you need to give the permissions on the mount command
[03:09] <bruenig> !enter
[03:09] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[03:09] <x2mjokada> bruenig, thanks dude
[03:09] <norty> but i dont have enough space on the linux  partition so i can't copy all the files over
[03:09] <elpargo> sadistico, what wireless problem? which card?
[03:09] <norty> how
[03:09] <norty> elpargo
[03:09] <cables> norty, if you can access them, just put them somewhere... if you can see them, you haven't lost them. Use a USB drive
[03:09] <norty> how do i give permissions on the mount command
[03:09] <norty> i cant see them
[03:09] <elpargo> norty, boot windows burn DVDs reformat everything is the fastest way.
[03:09] <EdgEy> norty, what you need to do is
[03:09] <x2mjokada> !azureus
[03:09] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AzureusHowTo
[03:09] <EdgEy> use root to access
[03:10] <EdgEy> what is probably happening is that the ntfs partition is mounted but only root can access it
[03:10] <norty> yea
[03:10] <norty> ok
[03:10] <EdgEy> try alt+f2 then sudo nautilus
[03:10] <norty> how do i become root
[03:10] <[reed] > gumpish: I just e-mailed canonical
[03:10] <sadistico> elpargo: its a broadcom card
[03:10] <cables> !root | norty
[03:10] <ubotu> norty: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:10] <[reed] > so, maybe it will be fixed soon
[03:10] <EdgEy> not sudo sorry
[03:10] <EdgEy> gksudo
[03:10] <norty> i tried using sudo
[03:10] <norty> didnt work
[03:10] <cables> norty, use gksudo...
[03:10] <sadistico> i just installed ndiswrapper
[03:10] <elpargo> norty, there is a flag you set on /etc/fstab with is the permission
[03:10] <EdgEy> gksudo nautilus
[03:10] <norty> gksudo
[03:10] <norty> eh?
[03:10] <norty> so wait what
[03:11] <norty> hit alt-f2
[03:11] <sadistico> and have the driver on my desktop
[03:11] <fiXXXerMet> Something up with us.archive.ubuntu.com?  (Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com')
[03:11] <cables> norty, then type "gksudo nautilus"
[03:11] <norty> then use gksudo and the chown and chmod commands to change permission?
[03:11] <cables> norty, we were suggesting using the gui
[03:11] <EdgEy> no, norty
[03:11] <EdgEy> use gksudo nautilus to try and access the files
[03:11] <elpargo> norty, mode=XXX where XXX is the unix permission you probaby want something like 755 and you need to put the setuid=yourUserId
[03:11] <EdgEy> all of them
[03:11] <norty> all i want to do is be able to access those files so i can put them on an external drive and get them off my comp
[03:11] <EdgEy> just to check
[03:12] <starz> u too eh fiXXXerMet
[03:12] <cables> norty, gksudo nautilus will let you access them.
[03:12] <fiXXXerMet> Yup
[03:12] <norty> ok
[03:12] <starz> annoying ~_~
[03:12] <cables> norty, that opens Nautilus as root
[03:12] <EdgEy> yeah then you can copy them to external drive without messing with permissiosn etc
[03:12] <EdgEy> permissions
[03:12] <fiXXXerMet> DNS or server problem?
[03:12] <elpargo> norty, ok ignore me EdgEy advice is simplier
[03:12] <norty> next prob, i dont have enough space on my linux partition to boot in, i can only use recovery boot
[03:12] <starz> fiXXXerMet i dont think the ip changes much
[03:12] <starz> so im guessing server
[03:12] <norty> how do i delete things so i can get more space
[03:12] <fiXXXerMet> Was hoping to get lucky :)
[03:12] <EdgEy> seems like the first time i have helped someone without making their life harder
[03:12] <EdgEy> :P
[03:12] <norty> i tried rmdir but it didnt work since the "directy is not empty"
[03:12] <norty> ..
[03:13] <EdgEy> rm -r
[03:13] <cables> norty, rm -r
[03:13] <norty> thats it
[03:13] <Xenguy> rm -rf
[03:13] <starz> tho its not dnsable
[03:13] <cables> ha, edgey beat me
[03:13] <norty> just type that
[03:13] <elpargo> rm -rf
[03:13] <EdgEy> usually -r for stuff
[03:13] <sadistico> can someone please help me with ndiswrapper?
[03:13] <cables> !ndiswrapper | sadistico
[03:13] <ubotu> sadistico: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:13] <norty> so what i type rm -rf and it automatically knows what to delete?
[03:13] <elpargo> sadistico, hehe was going to ask that, so your card works on ndiswrapper
[03:13] <EdgEy> norty nah
[03:13] <norty> or do i need to inclue a path to a directory or file or what
[03:13] <EdgEy> f isn't needed, i forget what it is, force i think
[03:13] <cables> norty, no... rm -r path
[03:13] <Xenguy> norty: yes
[03:13] <elpargo> !mount
[03:13] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[03:13] <EdgEy> rm -rf /home/user/directory
[03:13] <cables> Xenguy, wtf?
[03:13] <EdgEy> something like that
[03:14] <Xenguy> EdgEy: -f is needed I believe
[03:14] <sadistico> my light came on
[03:14] <norty> so say the file is in /home/norty/desktop/folder
[03:14] <sadistico> so yeah
[03:14] <norty> i want to remove folder
[03:14] <DjBrix> cables i got it in google i need a dslam server thanks
[03:14] <EdgEy> Xenguy, nah
[03:14] <norty> do i type
[03:14] <sadistico> i think it just needs my driver now
[03:14] <cables> Xenguy, oh, i thought you were saying he didn't need a path :)
[03:14] <EdgEy> works for me with just r, i've never used f
[03:14] <elpargo> wtf that bot should have said man mount
[03:14] <norty> rm -r /home/norty/desktop/folder
[03:14] <norty> ??
[03:14] <sadistico> i dont know how to load it though
[03:14] <EdgEy> yep
[03:14] <starz> fiXXXerMet just take the us. out for now
[03:14] <EdgEy> woohoo, diff found the files that were missing
[03:14] <Xenguy> EdgEy: yes, if you have 'rm' aliased to '-i' -- that would be it, which applies to me
[03:14] <fiXXXerMet> yeah?  /me tries it
[03:14] <sadistico> i already went through those tutorials
[03:14] <EdgEy> skipped 2 folders by mistake when copying, not sure how
[03:14] <pibarnas> hey folks, what's the best app to copy a DVD on Ubuntu??
[03:14] <norty> ok ill be right back
[03:14] <xtknight> elpargo: i'm not positive of that but i'm quite sure
[03:14] <sadistico> i cant use the su command though
[03:15] <sadistico> keep getting an error
[03:15] <EdgEy> norty: gl
[03:15] <EdgEy> too late
[03:15] <cables> sadistico, use "sudo -i" instead
[03:15] <sadistico> su: Authentication failure
[03:15] <sadistico> Sorry.
[03:15] <sadistico> sudo -i alone?
[03:15] <elpargo> sadistico, in ubuntu su is "disable" use sudo everytime you need su
[03:15] <cables> sadistico, "sudo <command>" runs the command as root, "sudo -i" gives you a root terminal
[03:15] <elpargo> sudo -i <comand>
[03:15] <carlhume> cables, It was a bios setting
[03:15] <cables> elpargo, nope
[03:15] <fiXXXerMet> Good one starz, thank you
[03:16] <carlhume> cables, thanks for your help earlier
[03:16] <cables> elpargo, sudo -i gives you a terminal
[03:16] <cables> carlhume, I helped you?
[03:16] <BigMac> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[03:16] <BigMac> I got to the end of that and I got no errors and then on the verification the first line did nothing and all the following lines gave bash errors
[03:16] <EdgEy> hmm, anyone know of a simple command to delete all Thumbs.db files within a folder recursively?
[03:16] <EdgEy> heh.
[03:16] <cables> carlhume, no problem then :)
[03:16] <carlhume> lol
[03:16] <sadistico> gotcha
[03:16] <sadistico> ty
[03:16] <carlhume> cables, well, you listened to me babbling
[03:16] <BigMac> why would that happen
[03:16] <sadistico> what does su mean?
[03:16] <elpargo> huh ups I'm rusty, cableroy
[03:16] <elpargo> cables, *
[03:16] <Xenguy> EdgEy: use 'find' then 'xargs'
[03:16] <EdgEy> sadistico, switch user
[03:16] <EdgEy> that might not be the abbreviation, but, it's what su does
[03:16] <Xenguy> EdgEy: er, pipe to xargs
[03:16] <briguyd> hi, i just ran the latest updates on edgy, including a kernel update, and restarted, and X failed to start, i then ran nvidia-xconfig and startx and it still failed
[03:17] <cables> EdgEy, I absolutely despise OSs that crap all over your folders
[03:17] <EdgEy> and su without arguments will switch to root (you need to know the password obviously)
[03:17] <elpargo> EdgEy, actually it is
[03:17] <EdgEy> cables, i'm migrating my ntfs partitions to ext3
[03:17] <sadistico> hrmmm i should have got a staement saying [17179594.992000]  acer_acpi: Acer Laptop ACPI Extras version 0.3
[03:17] <sadistico> [17179595.000000]  acer_acpi: Wireless value 1
[03:17] <EdgEy> so.. yeah:)
[03:17] <Fujitsu> briguyd, you probably need to run the upgrade again. A bug in Launchpad occurred which caused that problem.
[03:17] <elpargo> EdgEy, in ubuntu it wont you need to run sudo su
[03:17] <sadistico> but instead i got [17181138.464000]  acer_acpi: Acer Laptop ACPI Extras version 0.3
[03:17] <sadistico> [17181138.464000]  acer_acpi: No WMI interface, unable to load.
[03:17] <briguyd> Fujitsu, how, just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:17] <EdgEy> elpargo, if you sudo passwd first
[03:17] <EdgEy> it will
[03:18] <Fujitsu> briguyd: sudo aptitude update, then sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[03:18] <cables> sadistico, for the time being, just use "sudo" to run commands as root.
[03:18] <Fujitsu> Or apt-get, if you prefer.
[03:18] <sadistico> i am
[03:18] <sadistico> that worked fine
[03:18] <black_13> !casper
[03:18] <ubotu> casper: Run a "live" preinstalled system from read-only media. In component main, is extra. Version 1.78 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 236 kB
[03:18] <pibarnas> hey folks, what's the best app to copy a DVD on Ubuntu??
[03:18] <sadistico> just am having a problem with [17181138.464000]  acer_acpi: Acer Laptop ACPI Extras version 0.3
[03:18] <sadistico> [17181138.464000]  acer_acpi: No WMI interface, unable to load.
[03:18] <sadistico> the second part of that
[03:18] <sadistico> with the no wmi
[03:18] <Xenguy> pibarnas: k9copy, or dvdrip
[03:19] <elpargo> EdgEy, yup if
[03:19] <Xenguy> pibarnas: if you want to transcode, then dvd::rip
[03:19] <hockyhair> cafuego!@!! come back
[03:19] <briguyd> Fujitsu, didnt seem to do anything
[03:19] <sadistico> cables: any ideas?
[03:20] <cables> sadistico, just follow the guide again now that you know to use "sudo."
[03:20] <cables> sadistico, I have no idea
[03:20] <HP_Vue> some please help! I am trying to write an ISO to a disk and I right click my iso and there is a drop down box labeled "write disk to:" And there there is a drop down box w/ 2 options 1) The name of my CD and 2)file image
[03:20] <Fujitsu> briguyd, it's possible your mirror still has the old files. I'm not quite sure how to proceed from here :-/
[03:20] <HP_Vue> i am in ubuntu
[03:20] <EdgEy> whoa
[03:20] <EdgEy> find is FAST
[03:20] <cables> HP_Vue, name of cd
[03:20] <HP_Vue> thanks
[03:21] <briguyd> Fujitsu, just wait?
[03:21] <sadistico> cables: oh well, thanks anyway
[03:21] <ljlolel> us.archive.ubuntu.com is down right now, right?
[03:21] <cables> sadistico, join channel #ndiswrapper
[03:21] <sadistico> cables: kk
[03:22] <tcpip> !trickle
[03:22] <ubotu> trickle: user-space bandwidth shaper. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.07-4 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 164 kB
[03:22] <EdgEy> looking at this...
[03:22] <EdgEy> find * -name Thumbs.db | xargs rm
[03:22] <EdgEy> to remove all Thumbs.db files within the current folder and subfolders?
[03:22] <andres_> who know of this error? error /dev/sda/ failed ...
[03:22] <briguyd> ljlolel, looks like it
[03:23] <sp4nk3> Hey anybody using xchat?  dcc receiving files are timing out and I'm not sure why.
[03:23] <briguyd> Fujitsu, could that be it?
[03:23] <ljlolel> haha that sucks-- i just got my friend to start installing linux through the windows installer project
[03:23] <tcpip> please help.. i need to limit bandwidth used by tinyproxy(my other pc)
[03:24] <Fujitsu> briguyd: It could be, yes. If you edit /etc/apt/sources.list (sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list) and replace us.archive with just archive, then run the update and dist-upgrade again, you might get somewhere.
[03:24] <tcpip> i installed trickle.. but how do i configure it
[03:24] <sadistico> cables: noone is in that room they're sleeping :P thanks thouhg
[03:24] <zyth> Uhh anyone got any idea why neither my home/end or arrow keys work for scrolling the page in Firefox?
[03:24] <cables> tcpip, try "man trickle"
[03:25] <Fujitsu> zyth: Ensure that a plugin doesn't have the focus. Click on a normal-ish part of the page, and try again.
[03:25] <briguyd> Fujitsu, i just checked it, its already set to archive, not us.archive
[03:25] <zyth> Fujitsu, aha.  Thanks
[03:25] <faolan> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com is down
[03:25] <x2mjokada> can someone please help me? I installed Azureus, but everytime i run it, it just closes by itself.  Does anyone know a fix for this
[03:26] <Wyzard> x2mjokada: What JRE are you using?
[03:26] <cables> x2mjokada, your configuration files might be messed up... delete ~/.azureus
[03:26] <faolan> I haven't been about to connect to it even via firefox
[03:26] <x2mjokada> Wyzard, jre 6
[03:26] <tcpip> cables: yeah.. can it be used for apps already started or need to start the app through trickle
[03:27] <_Tom_> Can anyone tell me what on earth the package 'at' is, in Ubuntu 6.10"
[03:27] <_Tom_> *?
[03:27] <Wyzard> _Tom_: It lets you schedule a program to be run at a later time
[03:27] <_Tom_> Ok.
[03:27] <cables> _Tom_, it helps you schedule tasks
[03:27] <_Tom_> Well, i'm building up from scratch.
[03:27] <cables> Wyzard beat me
[03:27] <_Tom_> I tried install dmraid before anything else (needed for my fakeraid array)
[03:27] <zyth> _Tom_, http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/ fyi
[03:27] <rubix_> i think i am having problems, i just updated kernel and graphics drivers
[03:28] <_Tom_> Thanks.
[03:28] <illriginal> anyone know if the server of azureus is down right now?
[03:28] <rubix_> now i don't have any x at all
[03:28] <x2mjokada> Wyzard, does the jre cause it to do that?
[03:28] <andres_> where find this file : /sda or  /dev?
[03:28] <EdgEy> andres_,  /dev/sda
[03:28] <zyth> illriginal, azureus is running fine here.
[03:28] <sadistico> has anyone in here configured a wireless nic before on a laptop?
[03:28] <Wyzard> x2mjokada: Java 6 should be fine...  try cables' suggestion of deleting (or renaming) ~/.azureus
[03:28] <EdgEy> !ask
[03:28] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:28] <illriginal> I get this error when tryin to download it from Synaptic: Some of the packages could not be retrieved from the server(s).
[03:28] <illriginal> Do you want to continue, ignoring these packages?
[03:28] <sadistico> !ndiswrapper
[03:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:28] <Wyzard> illriginal: azureus doesn't have a central server that it depends on
[03:29] <illriginal> hm...
[03:29] <_Tom_> Anyway, dmraid failed to install .. so I installed the kernal, and ubuntu-standard.. but dmraid fails to configure, and ubuntu-standard won't configure without at being problem configured .. which is also refusing to configure.
[03:29] <tiglionabbit> !info java
[03:29] <cables> rubix_, make sure your "linux-restricted-modules" is the same version as your "linux-image"
[03:29] <ubotu> Package java does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[03:29] <illriginal> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libgnucrypto-java/libgnucrypto-java_2.1.0-1_all.deb
[03:29] <illriginal>   Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'
[03:29] <tiglionabbit> !java
[03:29] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:29] <rubix_> cables good idea sir
[03:29] <illriginal> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/j/jakarta-log4j1.2/liblog4j1.2-java_1.2.13-1ubuntu1_all.deb
[03:29] <illriginal>   Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'
[03:30] <l93p> hello everyone
[03:30] <cables> out of curiosity after rubix_'s question, how do I use uname to install a package with my kernel version at the end?
[03:30] <zyth> illriginal, beats me, I installed it with automatix (and yes, thats a huge awful sin here, I don't care, so if anyone wants to neep about it, redirect to /dev/null)
[03:30] <rubix_> cables: how do i tell my restricted   maduals version
[03:30] <_Tom_> zyth: That link is pretty useless without a search engine :/ I haven't got a clue where to look for anything.
[03:30] <l93p> is there someone around with expertise regarding nvidia-settings?
[03:30] <Fujitsu> illriginal, the Ubuntu package server in the USA seems rather unwell at the moment. That's the problem that you have encountered.
[03:30] <illriginal> is there another server i can use?
[03:30] <zyth> _Tom_, uhh... http://packages.ubuntu.com/ has the search...
[03:31] <frogzoo> is it possible to get windows to go into standby within vmware-player ?
[03:31] <HymnToLife> rubix_, dpkg -l | grep restricted-modules
[03:31] <zyth> :P
[03:31] <Fujitsu> l93p: Has your NVIDIA driver broken?
[03:31] <illriginal> oh ok Fujitsu
[03:31] <cables> rubix_, hmm
[03:31] <rubix_> 193p try #wine-hq there are a number of people there
[03:31] <andres_> EdgEy: ok. good, where find this file?
[03:31] <l93p> Fujitsu: no
[03:31] <Eke3> hey, i accidentally deleted "/var/apt/lists", what do i do?
[03:31] <Fujitsu> illriginal, which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[03:31] <l93p> Fujitsu: it just isn't working right
[03:31] <illriginal> Edgy Eft 6.10
[03:31] <cables> rubix, aptitude show linux-restricted-modules
[03:31] <EdgEy> andres , it is just there
[03:31] <EdgEy> what are you trying to do?
[03:31] <mike__> How do I add a module so it will auto-load on boot time ?
[03:31] <cables> rubix_, ^^
[03:31] <mike__> a kernel module rather....
[03:31] <cables> rubix_, see if that works
[03:31] <Fujitsu> Eke3, you sure that's the right filename?
[03:32] <frogzoo> Eke3: no such file
[03:32] <Hoosteen> anybody know what's up with the archive repos?
[03:32] <mike__> i know theres a stupid command to set that up... i just cant remember it ATM
[03:32] <zyth> illriginal, you could just set your /etc/apt/sources.list to point at say a ca repo for security instead of the US one for now.
[03:32] <Fujitsu> Hoosteen: The US one is down at the moment.
[03:32] <rubix_> cables that said "package not found"
[03:32] <clearzen> mike__: um, I think it is depmod I'm drawing a blank too though
[03:32] <Hoosteen> Fujitus, kk thanks..guess i'll have to sit tight then...hehe
[03:32] <cables> rubix_, make it linux-restricted-modules-generic
[03:32] <dibblego> I am SSHed to a remote machine that is being used by another user - can I somehow message that user?
[03:32] <illriginal> zyth, "ca repo" ?
[03:33] <fiberchunks> canadian
[03:33] <mike__> clearzen, naw, that does the module dependancy and ish...  im lookin for the modconf type thing
[03:33] <zyth> illriginal, you could change that 'us' to 'ca' and just grab it from the canadian repository for now
[03:33] <zyth> then switch it back when done
[03:33] <zyth> or you can wait
[03:33] <Hoosteen> Fujitsu, kk thanks..guess i'll have to sit tight then...hehe
[03:33] <illriginal> oh ok
[03:33] <l93p> Fujitsu: it's an issue regarding resolution problems at startup  makes gnome bar in weird spots...
[03:33] <cables> the tubes are clogged?
[03:33] <Fujitsu> Hoosteen, or switch to, as zyth says, another mirror.
[03:33] <zyth> cables, there's not enough tubes!
[03:33] <Hoosteen> fujitsu, yeah..thought about that...think i'll sit tight...hehe
[03:33] <tcpip> cables: thanks
[03:33] <Fujitsu> (oddly enough, us.archive.ubuntu.com works fine for me)
[03:34] <gerald> can anyone help me with dualhead with aticonfig ?
[03:34] <clearzen> mike__: It's modprobe then
[03:34] <gerald> i can't get my 2nd monitor to work
[03:34] <zyth> the Canada security archive was dog slow for me yesterday, but is fine now.
[03:34] <clearzen> mike__: Or just edit /etc/modules
[03:34] <moomoo> evenin
[03:34] <cables> rubix_, did that work?
[03:34] <zyth> gerald, did you try the ati control panel?
[03:34] <gerald> yes
[03:34] <gerald> i got the 2nd monitor to display something, but it's sort of messed up
[03:34] <rubix_> where is your sources.lst
[03:34] <saphetiger> Hey is anyone else having a problem resolving us.archive.ubuntu.com
[03:34] <cables> rubix_, why do you need to know that?
[03:34] <x2mjokada> hey guys, i have a file in the trash that won't delete, is there any way to get rid of it?
[03:35] <zyth> gerald, I am guessing here, but you may need a
[03:35] <cables> rubix_, it's in /etc/apt/, but why?
[03:35] <[reed] > The ubuntu hostmaster just fixed us.archive.ubuntu.com
[03:35] <[reed] > but you may have it cached
[03:35] <zyth> gerald: Display section in your xorg.conf for that other monitor
[03:35] <ljlolel> celebrate!
[03:35] <[reed] > just give it a bit
[03:35] <saphetiger> Thank you.
[03:35] <frogzoo> is it possible to get windows to go into standby within vmware-player ?
[03:35] <gerald> i have it
[03:35] <saphetiger> exit
[03:35] <zyth> gerald, with the right refresh rates and resolutions
[03:35] <saphetiger> quit
[03:35] <faolan> saphetiger: us.archive.ubuntu.com is down
[03:35] <rubix_> i'm having problems with us archives and i'm going to need apt to resolve this problem, when i find out what it is
[03:35] <gerald> i have the right resolution
[03:35] <[reed] > faolan: no, it's fixed now
[03:35] <Fujitsu> faolan: Not for long :)
[03:35] <newuser1> hey guys i tried to change the resolution in gnome but it only goes up to 1024X768 so i ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and seet higher resolutions but it still wont let me change it... any ideas?
[03:35] <gerald> do you know what the syntax is for refresh rates
[03:35] <gerald> for the xorg.conf?
[03:35] <gerald> i think tha tmay be it
[03:35] <[reed] > `dig @ns.ubuntu.com us.archive.ubuntu.com`
[03:35] <cables> rubix_, ouch... just the time for the repos to go, huh?
[03:35] <zyth> newuser1, do you have an ATI card by chance?
[03:35] <[reed] > shows that it's fixed
[03:35] <newuser1> i810
[03:36] <zyth> gerald, sec
[03:36] <rubix_> cables: yes
[03:36] <cables> rubix_, i have to go now, someone else will help you
[03:36] <zyth> newuser1, what video driver are you using in your xorg.conf?
[03:36] <sadistico> is there noone that can help me configure me wireless connection?
[03:36] <newuser1> i told it to use i810
[03:36] <newuser1> zyth im double checking it
[03:36] <rubix_> wait where is sources.lst again i can't scroll up sorry
[03:36] <zyth> gerald, for instance mine is
[03:36] <zyth>  HorizSync    30.0 - 75.0
[03:36] <zyth>         VertRefresh  40.0 - 80.0
[03:36] <gerald> i don't need quotes?
[03:36] <Cryoniq> This might seem like a scary question, but I have a harddrive with 1 partition of ubuntu linux, followed by swap partition and then I have 40 gigs free with nothing. I am thinking installing Windows XP on the last 40 gig drive, just in case for some progs that just didnt want to follow with me to linux and they are specific. Now.. will windows install overwrite grubb? And how do I add selection for windows startup so it show in gr
[03:36] <Fujitsu> rubix_, /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:37] <zyth> gerald, not for the sync stuff no
[03:37] <ljlolel> gerald: no, just type 30-70 or whatever
[03:37] <gerald> k, i'll try that
[03:37] <rubix_> Fujitsu ty sir got it
[03:37] <newuser1> zyth: Driver is set to i810
[03:37] <sadistico> oh well back to windows xp i suppose
[03:37] <zyth> newuser1, in xorg.conf it says i810 ?
[03:37] <x2mjokada> cables, i have a file in my trash, but when i got to empty it, it doesn't delete.  Is there any way i can get rid of it?
[03:37] <clearzen> Cryoniq:Windows will overwrite the grub
[03:37] <andres_> EdgEy: when initiates linux gave to the error and said me that executed fsck manually or something thus
[03:37] <newuser1> zyth yes
[03:37] <Cryoniq> =/
[03:37] <zyth> k, sec.
[03:37] <jrib> Cryoniq: yes windows will overwrite grub when you install it, see:
[03:37] <jrib> !grub | Cryoniq
[03:37] <ubotu> Cryoniq: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:37] <Cryoniq> evil windows... =(
[03:37] <zyth> newuser1, can you put your xorg.conf on the pastebin?
[03:37] <NkZ> Greetings again
[03:37] <gerald> so i put that in the monitor section right?
[03:37] <newuser1> sure
[03:37] <zyth> gerald, aye
[03:37] <cables> x2mjokada, alt-f2, then type "sudo nautilus /home/<username_here>/trash"
[03:38] <frogzoo> Cryoniq: xp will overwrite your mbr, you'll need to reinstall grub afterwards - there's howtos for configuring grub for doze
[03:38] <cables> x2mjokada, then delete it from there
[03:38] <frogzoo> !grub | Cryoniq
[03:38] <sadistico> yes, but at least windows xp lets my wireless work on y laptop
[03:38] <sadistico> ...evil ubuntu
[03:38] <NkZ> Anyone knows a way to change the color or the gNOME Menu? (Not the Panel)
[03:38] <Cryoniq> Thanks :)
[03:38] <jrib> sadistico: evil hardware vendors you mean
[03:38] <zyth> sadistico, did you use google or ubuntuforums.org by chance, or just come on here?
[03:38] <x2mjokada> cables, k thanks
[03:38] <cables> x2mjokada, no  problem
[03:38] <sadistico> yeah
[03:38] <sadistico> i went to two different forums
[03:38] <sadistico> hit a road block
[03:38] <sadistico> noone knows what to do
[03:38] <Fujitsu> sadistico: What kind of card is iti?
[03:38] <zyth> sadistico, tell me your model of wifi card.
[03:38] <Cryoniq> wish I wasnt force to do this. I really want to break 100% free instead of 97% free... *grumble*
[03:38] <gerald> how about the resolution, my resolution is set in the Screen section
[03:39] <sadistico> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224350
[03:39] <sadistico> and
[03:39] <jrib> Cryoniq: what windows apps do you need?
[03:39] <newuser1> zyth: http://pastebin.ca/351318
[03:39] <sadistico> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102
[03:39] <Cryoniq> bank specific stuff.. =/
[03:39] <sadistico> broadcom
[03:39] <zyth> newuser1, k sec
[03:39] <norty> im back edgy
[03:39] <zyth> sadistico, you need ndiswrapper then
[03:39] <fiberchunks> bank specific -- online banking?
[03:39] <newuser1> zyth: np
[03:39] <sadistico> i ahve it installed already
[03:39] <sadistico> that was easy
[03:39] <cables> sadistico, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102
[03:40] <zyth> newuser1, why are you using the Framebuffer?
[03:40] <cables> sadistico, nvm, bad paste
[03:40] <zyth> sadistico, ohh you have an acer
[03:40] <sadistico> im currently stuck on this link
[03:40] <gerald> zylche, my 2nd monitor has a brown screen, the bottom portion of my monitor shows portion of my primary monitor
[03:40] <sadistico> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224350
[03:40] <cables> sadistico, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[03:40] <norty> how do I gain access to a folder that says I dont have permission
[03:40] <zyth> sadistico, lemme guess, your wifi light isnt on
[03:40] <gerald> the resolution looks like it's set properly though
[03:40] <Cryoniq> yeah and their service require a client side app existing only for windows for certs etc.. really stupid thing, but the % on my loans are the best at the bank ^^
[03:40] <zyth> sadistico, so the card is off?
[03:40] <l93p> is there anyone around that could help me?
[03:40] <sadistico> step 7
[03:40] <fiberchunks> norty: be root, or that user
[03:40] <norty> how do I be root
[03:40] <sadistico> it seems to be on
[03:41] <jrib> !root | norty
[03:41] <ubotu> norty: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:41] <sadistico> the light is on at least
[03:41] <Cryoniq> Hmm then again.. maybe WMware for Linux could handle it... hmmm
[03:41] <cables> sadistico, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper/edgy?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%29
[03:41] <zyth> sadistico, hmm k thats good at least
[03:41] <norty> i tried sudo chmod and sudo chown but they dont work
[03:41] <sadistico> yeah
[03:41] <starz> hm
[03:41] <newuser1> zyth i dunno i wasnt aware that i hit that... coould that mess it up?
[03:41] <zyth> newuser1, well?
[03:41] <moomoo> arg
[03:41] <zyth> ah
[03:41] <moomoo> back
[03:41] <jrib> norty: what are you trying to do?
[03:41] <zyth> newuser1, yeah it could
[03:41] <gerald> when I move my mouse to the far left of my laptop monitor, i can see the cursor in the edge of my 2nd monitor, but i can't move it into the 2nd monitor
[03:41] <newuser1> k ill redo it
[03:41] <zyth> newuser1, reconfigure xorg and dont select framebuffer
[03:41] <norty> basically i mounted a partition to a folder on the desktop
[03:41] <norty> im trying to access the files to take off my harddrive
[03:41] <NkZ> Anyone knows a way to change the color or the gNOME Menu? (Not the Panel)
[03:41] <norty> but it wonlt let me see the contents of the folder
[03:41] <newuser1> zyth: cant i just delete the line?
[03:41] <norty> so i cant copy them off my comp
[03:42] <jrib> norty: try to put my name in front of your response and keep it all in one line
[03:42] <zyth> newuser1, mebbe try it
[03:42] <l93p> gerald: what about the other edge?
[03:42] <cables> norty, alt-f2 then "gksudo nautilus", then navigate to the folder
[03:42] <norty> i tried that
[03:42] <gerald> l93p, nothing
[03:42] <norty> ill try again cables
[03:42] <jrib> norty: what kind of filesystem is this?
[03:42] <cables> norty, you can even set permissions from there
[03:42] <norty> ntfs
[03:42] <gerald> it's just a brown screen, and the bottom of the 2nd monitor shows portions of my laptop lcd
[03:42] <moomoo> allright who needs help
[03:42] <klypso> anyone know how to set up GRUB to boot a winXP ntfs partition
[03:42] <l93p> gerald: nvidia?
[03:42] <klypso> ?
[03:42] <gerald> l93p, ati x200m
[03:42] <cables> norty, you won't be able to write to it, but you can read from it...
[03:42] <l93p> gerald: sorry :(
[03:42] <moomoo> norty, did you get all your files?
[03:42] <cables> klypso, #grub
[03:43] <norty> i just want to copy the files off
[03:43] <atlantia> hah anyone here had luck with 3945 and wpa?
[03:43] <nevermind> hi all
[03:43] <norty> no i didnt moomoo
[03:43] <atlantia> this is so sad
[03:43] <gerald> zylche, any more ideas ?
[03:43] <moomoo> norty, how far did you get?
[03:43] <rubix_> yay, now i got web surfing capability in terminal
[03:43] <klypso> !grub
[03:43] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:43] <norty> no where
[03:43] <jrib> norty: if this is a one time thing, then cables' command should be enough.  But if you want to always mount this partition, you need to mount it with the proper permissions using umask
[03:43] <gerald> i tried looking on the ubuntu forums, but nothing much there
[03:43] <fiXXXerMet> The proftpd package is listening only on tcp6 - not tcp4.  How can I change this?
[03:43] <atlantia> i always thought ubuntu had the wifi support thing down, but you throw wpa at it and it shakes like a small girl
[03:43] <norty> im basically trying to get the files off my comp so i can reformat it
[03:43] <moomoo> i thought you had access to the files and could see them?
[03:43] <zyth> gerald, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85215
[03:43] <zyth> gerald, 3rd post
[03:43] <atlantia> !wpa
[03:43] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:43] <norty> i just want to be able to see the files, and then be able to copy them from the partition to an external drive
[03:43] <sadistico> cables: what did that link do?
[03:44] <moomoo> i thought you had access to them?
[03:44] <EdgEy> !ntfs-3g
[03:44] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:44] <sadistico> cables: everything worked but still no wireless connection
[03:44] <EdgEy> ^ norty
[03:44] <gerald> thanks
[03:44] <jrib> he just needs to read them EdgEy
[03:44] <cables> sadistico, one was for Broadcom chips
[03:44] <norty> i tried that it doesnt work with 64bit amd
[03:44] <cables> chipsets*
[03:44] <EdgEy> heh
[03:44] <zyth> gerald, I am guessing you need Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS, CRT" #laptop LCD, external connector
[03:44] <EdgEy> i use 32-bit on my amd64
[03:44] <norty> all i want to do is copy the files off my comp
[03:44] <jrib> norty: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[03:44] <EdgEy> for reasons like that
[03:44] <frobro360> hi everyone, i'm having a wireless configuration issue also
[03:44] <atlantia> so whats the way to get wpa working/
[03:44] <gerald> yea
[03:44] <_Tom_> *cries
[03:45] <illriginal> im scared to update.
[03:45] <zyth> atlantia, install wpa-supplicant
[03:45] <zyth> heh
[03:45] <illriginal> to the new generic linux
[03:45] <_Tom_> Why is it, when I install something with apt-get .. and it fails, that I can't uninstall the bloody thing again?
[03:45] <illriginal> last time it messed up my X
[03:45] <_Tom_> This is driving me up the wall
[03:45] <hockyhair> cafuego: are you there
[03:45] <rubix_> illriginal how did you fix it i'm having the same problem
[03:45] <cables> illriginal, as long as you make sure "linux-generic" is installed, it should keep your X working.
[03:45] <illriginal> lol you can
[03:45] <zyth> _Tom_, um if apt-get failed, it shouldnt be installed
[03:45] <illriginal> you cant
[03:45] <alephant> Hi all
[03:45] <illriginal> cables it did that <,<
[03:45] <atlantia> zyth,  i have it
[03:46] <illriginal> i still use my last kernel
[03:46] <illriginal> not the new one.
[03:46] <atlantia> zyth, http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[03:46] <_Tom_> zyth: But I've got all the required packages in for the particular package. Yet they won't install? And fail on configure.
[03:46] <gerald> zyth, which part of my xorg.conf should i put those options?
[03:46] <norty> Edgy what do I do when i hit alt-f2
[03:46] <zyth> gerald, display
[03:46] <newuser1> zyth: i tried just deleting it as well as reconfiguring and neither worked
[03:46] <atlantia> zyth, a half baked howto.. loses me at click gnome network manager, i dont have my wifi card in gnome net manager
[03:46] <rubix_> i'm using my last kernel and still no x
[03:46] <alephant> I'm not asking how to "build a kernel the Ubuntu way"... I want to know how to rebuild the actual kernel package -- I want exactly the kernel I have now (so that modules-nonfree, madwifi et.al. will still work) but with a few different options (timer freq, preempt)
[03:46] <frobro360> ok i'm using the wusb54gs on edgy, i've installed the ndiswrapper from the repo, and got my hands on the .sys files that are missing from the default driver.  it now tell's me "driver installed, hardware found" however after
[03:46] <EdgEy> norty, why don't you just boot back into windows and sort this out
[03:46] <atlantia> zyth, but i can use iwconfig and connect to wep and no encryption networks
[03:46] <illriginal> for now i wont update
[03:47] <_Tom_> zyth: Might it be a case of having an improper kernal installed?
[03:47] <illriginal> until there's a fix.
[03:47] <alephant> I've done apt-get source linux-kernel-$(uname -r)
[03:47] <EdgEy> clearly you should not be messing with vulnerable data
[03:47] <norty> Edgy, because the partition im trying to access doesnt show up in windows
[03:47] <gerald> zyth, so the subsection of screen?
[03:47] <alephant> which gives me an .orig, a .diff and a .dsc...
[03:47] <klypso> need help getting GRUB to boot windowsXP grub menu : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5360/
[03:47] <moomoo> alephant, thats a little bit beyond the scope of this channel though
[03:47] <zyth> atlantia, check out gtk wifi. http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=74
[03:47] <alephant> moomoo: dig it.  Where should I go?
[03:47] <zyth> gerald, go read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85215
[03:48] <frobro360> modprobe ndiswrapper I get nothing, and the new network connection is not found
[03:48] <frobro360> i've been looking everywhere and I can't find anything
[03:48] <norty> Edgy, thats too late now
[03:48] <moomoo> well good question, typically its google.  there aren't any channels that i'm aware of that teach you how to compile
[03:48] <zyth> moomoo, #gentoo? lol
[03:48] <l93p> hey guys, how do I make my monitor resolution match my workspace resolution?
[03:48] <moomoo> heh
[03:48] <alephant> I basically want to rebuild with those tweaks, but when I do it with make-kernel then my binary drivers won't modprobe
[03:49] <klypso> I cannot get GRUB to boot into windows
[03:49] <klypso> menu at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5360/
[03:49] <sadistico> cables: that link is better but im stuck; how do i point the fwcutter to the file on my desktop?
[03:49] <fiberchunks> alephant, try #kernel
[03:49] <alephant> moomoo: it's not "how to compile", it's "how to get the automagic Ubuntu weirdass drivers to modprobe"
[03:49] <cables> sadistico, send me a link, I've already lost where I sent you
[03:49] <rubix_> whats the package name for linux restricted modules
[03:49] <frobro360> is anyone able to assist w/ my ndiswrapper issues?
[03:49] <moomoo> alephant, so why are you recompiling? that won't help you any
[03:50] <alephant> fiberchunks: totally inappropriate -- I'm not talking about vanilla kernel builds, I'm trying to understand how Ubuntu kernel builds happen
[03:50] <gerald> Option "DesktopSetup" "0x00000200" #horizontal LCD=primary
[03:50] <sadistico> its a file called bcmwl5.sys
[03:50] <newuser1> zyth: any other ideas?
[03:50] <fiberchunks> ah ha, indeed
[03:50] <gerald> which part of xorg should i put that in
[03:50] <sadistico> i put it on my desktop
[03:50] <cables> frobro360, go to the channel #ndiswrapper
[03:50] <fiXXXerMet> Anyone?  Why is proftpd running on tcp6 but not normal tcp?
[03:50] <sadistico> cables: lol ok
[03:50] <alephant> moomoo: uh, yeah.  How else to change my timer frequency & preempt model?
[03:50] <frobro360> will do thank you
[03:50] <zyth> newuser1, no dice eh?
[03:50] <newuser1> zyth: no i treid bot deleting the line and reconfiguring
[03:50] <sadistico> cables: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy
[03:50] <moomoo> alephant, ah, yeah that is totally beyond the scope of the channel
[03:50] <alephant> Kernel build #1: vanilla build from kernel.org.
[03:51] <zyth> newuser1, url for your xorg again?
[03:51] <cables> sadistico, what do you mean by point to it?
[03:51] <alephant> moomoo: really?  I've had tons of discussions about dpkg-buildpackage here
[03:51] <cables> sadistico, where the guide says <downloaded file>, just put the path to your file.
[03:51] <alephant> that's all this is...
[03:51] <sadistico> right im stuck on that
[03:51] <newuser1> zyth: http://pastebin.ca/351345
[03:51] <sadistico> how does ubuntu do that?
[03:51] <cables> sadistico, you don't know the path?
[03:51] <sadistico> its on the desktop
[03:51] <sadistico> how do i point it there?
[03:52] <moomoo> yeah the channel is primarily for vanilla installs and basic troubleshooting, if you get that discussion going for a bit i guess its okay until an op decides to wake up
[03:52] <cables> sadistico, ~/Desktop/<filename>
[03:52] <zyth> newuser1, k hagnon
[03:52] <klypso> when I try to boot into ntfs partition I get an ERROR 29: Disk Write Error
[03:52] <sadistico> danka
[03:52] <newuser1> zyth: ok
[03:52] <alephant> grr
[03:52] <Gator> I need help, when I boot I get an error saying it failed to start the x server, and in the next window it says a tag is invalid, where I somehow put an M at the end of "InputDevice" ("InputDevicem")
[03:53] <cables> Gator, remove that M then...
[03:53] <moomoo> Gator, yeah, edit xorg.conf
[03:53] <moomoo> and remove them
[03:53] <cables> Gator, use "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to get into a text editor.
[03:53] <Gog123> i got in a fight with my cable isp and a moderator on a website........  threatened a lawsuit :P turns out they forced an issue with my google desktop forcing me to run a chkdsk
[03:53] <moomoo> its in /etc/X11
[03:53] <klypso> Gator: boot in safe mode or use a liveCD to edit it
[03:53] <Gog123> this is why i will NOT USE WINDOWS AGAIN
[03:53] <Erealz> i need help their are 2 package update that cant be retrieved from the server what up with that?
[03:53] <moomoo> Gog123, they forced you to do what?
[03:53] <Gog123> moomoo:  i had to run a chkdsk cause they corrupted my files remotely
[03:53] <Gator> thanks cables
[03:53] <klypso> check your disk for errors?
[03:53] <alephant> ...so, anybody have a clue what I'm talking about?
[03:54] <klypso> ye gods!
[03:54] <moomoo> Gog123, well welcome
[03:54] <klypso> the horror.
[03:54] <moomoo> just ask we'll try to help
[03:54] <Gog123> klypso:  Im on ubuntu now for life :)
[03:54] <zyth> newuser1, try making the only mode in each display subsection the default mode that you want.  For instance, mine only has 1280x1024 in it, nothing else
[03:54] <gerald> zyth, can you please tell me which part of xorg.conf i should add those options?
[03:54] <klypso> Gog123: amen
[03:54] <alephant> moomoo: I did ask, you told me it was off-topic.
[03:54] <newuser1> zyth: ok
[03:54] <moomoo> Gog123, yeah freedom is a great thing, it puts the power back in our hands
[03:54] <Gog123> klypso:  How does someone force a computer to crash remotely?  guess there are bugs they know about to get thru
[03:54] <moomoo> Gog123, funny thing is one doesn't see it until they run into a situation like yours
[03:54] <robbie_crash> what's a good ftp server?
[03:55] <Gog123> especially windows
[03:55] <zyth> gerald, Screen section
[03:55] <klypso> who forced your computer to crash?
[03:55] <frogzoo> Gog123: it's not easy to get a linux box to crash
[03:55] <alephant> I don't want a vanilla kernel build.  I don't want a make-kpkg.  I want to rebuild the linux-kernel* package, but with my own .config instead of whatever's the Ubuntu default.  I want all the Ubuntu patches, and the proper version string so that modprobe will work, but I want a few small tweaks to the .config.
[03:55] <Gog123> klypso:  Government, or someone with my ISP who knows.........
[03:55] <moomoo> alephant, well i tried to outline the basics ... hopefully you got that part about the ops.  they are opinionated and offtopic stuff is quickly shut down'
[03:55] <Gog123> frogzoo:  It was microsoft xp
[03:55] <robbie_crash> !ftp
[03:55] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[03:55] <sadistico> cables: its saying Where can I find some driver source files?
[03:55] <sadistico> :
[03:55] <alephant> Anybody even understand what I'm talking about?
[03:55] <klypso> hmm
[03:55] <robbie_crash> !ftp-server
[03:55] <frogzoo> Gog123: different story, not too hard if there's no firewall
[03:55] <sadistico> im leading it to the desktop
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ftp-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <robbie_crash> !ftp server
[03:56] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[03:56] <Gog123> klypso:  Thats what happens when you threaten a lawsuit against an ISP and keep going after them for their lies on a major website
[03:56] <sadistico> i typed in desktop/bwl.sys
[03:56] <alephant> WTH?
[03:56] <Gog123> klypso:  I aint giving up on paul allens dream
[03:56] <fiberchunks> alephant make oldconfig perhaps?
[03:56] <jrib> !kernel | alephant
[03:56] <ubotu> alephant: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:56] <Gog123> when he founded RCN (the isp in question)
[03:56] <alephant> The topic is "this is not #ubuntu"!?!?!?
[03:56] <Gog123> i mean funded
[03:56] <Gog123> it was 2 billion of HIS DOLLARS
[03:56] <alephant> oh
[03:56] <alephant> sorry
[03:56] <alephant> stale buffer :-)
[03:56] <frogzoo> alephant: apt-get source linux-image   ?
[03:56] <sadistico> cables: it wont let me type the ~ in front of Desktop
[03:56] <Gog123> anyways
[03:57] <Gator> cables: It keeps showing up as a blank document when I type {{{sudo nano /ect/X11/xorg.conf}}}
[03:57] <alephant> frogzoo: got that.  And I could just dpkg-makepackage to totally rebuild it
[03:57] <Gog123> you realize how much computer knowledge is swirling around us
[03:57] <[deimos] > Is there a problem with us.archive.ubuntu.com?  On a fresh install of 6.10 I'm getting errors connecting to the repo during an update.
[03:57] <zyth> sadistico, /home/yourloginname/Desktop
[03:57] <cables> sadistico, try "etc" not "ect" :)
[03:57] <moomoo> Gog123, what is paul allens dream?
[03:57] <alephant> I'm stuck on the intermediary step of how to tweak how the .deb will build.
[03:57] <fiberchunks> [deimos] , it's been fixed, but it may take a while to propogate
[03:57] <Gog123> i got so many errors in chkdsk and i noticed it cause my google desktop gave me an error
[03:57] <cables> sadistico, damn, wrong person
[03:57] <newuser1> zyth: interesting.... that forced it but now the edges are way past the edge of the screen lol
[03:57] <cables> Gator, replace "ect" with "etc" :)
[03:57] <klypso> hey, could someone shoot over to #grub...? need some help
[03:57] <zyth> newuser1, did you set the res too high for your display? lol
[03:57] <faolan> Gog123: why go after an ISP... political figure are way more fun to attack
[03:57] <alephant> That "wiki.../KernelCustomBuild" is merely how to do make-kpkg
[03:57] <Gog123> moomoo:  he funded rcn but then rcn collapsed financially and essentially stopped buildout and TREATED Customers like crap
[03:58] <sadistico> cables:=D
[03:58] <sadistico> zyth: ok ill try
[03:58] <moomoo> Gog123, what is rcn?
[03:58] <moomoo> sorry, just curious
[03:58] <Gog123> moomoo:  Fiber optics based provider
[03:58] <[deimos] > fiberchunks, thanks, I'll try the OpenDNS servers and see if they're up-to-date yet, Charter must be lagging behind :)
[03:58] <zyth> newuser1, try changing it in the system -> preferences -> screen res thing
[03:58] <Gog123> moomoo:  I am Fiber to the building
[03:58] <moomoo> ah, sorry to hear it failed
[03:58] <rubix_> whats the package name for the new kernel
[03:58] <Gog123> moomoo:  In the urban city
[03:58] <newuser1> zyth: could be... i guess this is i different monitor than the one i had
[03:58] <faolan> I go threatened by a cease and desist letter from the Government for something I wrote about Pat Robinson
[03:58] <faolan> like years ago
[03:58] <Gator> cables: Is there a command to immediately shutdown?
[03:58] <newuser1> its my sisters pc now
[03:58] <cables> moomoo, RCN didn't fail.. I'm using it right now
[03:58] <robbie_crash> thanks ubotu
[03:58] <wkdown> I'm looking for a good programming color-coded text editor for Ubuntu ... I use Notepad++ in XP but they don't have Linux binaries.  Anyone suggest a good one?
[03:59] <klypso> gwell, you still use it
[03:59] <cables> Gator, immediately?
[03:59] <cafuego_> To use ipsec on dapper with a prebuilt  dapper kenrel, I do *not* need to compile additional kernel modules, do I?
[03:59] <Gog123> cables:  It failed financially and went bankrupt and is now in piss poor shape
[03:59] <klypso> s/gwell/well/
[03:59] <robbie_crash> awww, no your welcome from the bot?
[03:59] <robbie_crash> *you're
[03:59] <sadistico> zyth: it keeps saying pattern not found
[03:59] <Gog123> cables:  it didnt fail in the sense of shutdown
[03:59] <cables> Gog123, ah.
[03:59] <Gog123> cables:  which market are you in?
[03:59] <sadistico> zyth: im using fwcutter
[03:59] <Gog123> cables:  please dont say cali
[03:59] <Gator> cables: yeah, instead of waiting 1 minute when I type {{{sudo shutdown 1}}}
[03:59] <klypso> Gog123: why do you still use it?
[03:59] <frogzoo> alephant: you mebbe should build like: dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b
[03:59] <zyth> sadistico,huh?  ok.. nm I misread something
[03:59] <sadistico> zyth: trying to get to my .sys file to load drivers
[03:59] <Gog123> klypso cause i didnt move yet
[04:00] <Gog123> waiting for me to move before i switch
[04:00] <klypso> away from New York?
[04:00] <klypso> ah
[04:00] <wkdown> I looked in the 'universe
[04:00] <Gog123> no
[04:00] <zyth> sadistico, the file is on your Desktop?
[04:00] <sadistico> zyth: yess'um
[04:00] <Gog123> klypso:  Newer apartment complex
[04:00] <alephant> frogzoo: Yep.  Still not at the step I need :-)
[04:00] <zyth> sadistico, waht is your login name on that box?
[04:00] <klypso> ah
[04:00] <sadistico> zyth: sadistico, real original i know
[04:00] <wkdown> I looked in the 'universe' and 'multiverse' packages but there's so many ... is anyone a programmer that can recommend a good color-coded text editor?
[04:00] <gerald> zyth, can you briefly check my xorg.conf
[04:00] <gerald> http://pastebin.ca/351356
[04:00] <zyth> sadistico, then it's in /home/sadistico/Desktop
[04:00] <gerald> i still can't get it to work
[04:01] <zyth> gerald, k sec
[04:01] <fiberchunks> wkdown, fancy gui, or console?
[04:01] <sadistico> zyth: yeah i know im typing that but everytime i hit enter it says pattern not found :P
[04:01] <alephant> wkdown: emacs and vim are both awesome
[04:01] <gerald> why do i have 3 screen sections
[04:01] <Gog123> klypso:  ill be using time warner cable in the new place, hopefully the IPO would have occured by then
[04:01] <wkdown> lookin for GUI
[04:01] <alephant> wkdown: lots of folks like kate and gedit, but I've never used either of them.
[04:01] <klypso> Gog123: you any good with GRUB?
[04:02] <zyth> gerald, try putting that in one of the other screen sections?
[04:02] <Gog123> klypso:  Time Warner is 10000/512k........ close enuff
[04:02] <klypso> vim all the way
[04:02] <sadistico> zyth: can i pm you a shot of my terminal seesion so far?
[04:02] <zyth> gerald, did you read the thread on the forums about this?
[04:02] <zyth> sadistico, ok
[04:02] <sadistico> zyth: so you can better see what im dealing wiht?
[04:02] <gerald> yes
[04:02] <sadistico> zyth: thx
[04:02] <moomoo> emacs is pretty much the mothership of all text editors however
[04:02] <moomoo> tons of extensions and stuff
[04:02] <moomoo> but ultimately its whatever works for you
[04:02] <alephant> klypso: whatcha need with GRUB?
[04:02] <klypso> moomoo: yeah, much to slow any GUI-y
[04:02] <Gog123> klypso:  I believe in open and shared knowledge, not corporate knowledge, but those corps keep knocking down the good guys :(
[04:02] <klypso> alephant: can't get grub to boot into windows
[04:03] <cables> klypso, try the #grub channel
[04:03] <fiberchunks> wkdown, http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Devtools/ides.html  some decent linkage there
[04:03] <klypso> alephant: menu.lst at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5360/
[04:03] <sadistico> zyth: ok i sent the pm
[04:03] <klypso> cables: tried that, no one there to answer
[04:03] <wkdown> tks fiber
[04:03] <klypso> cables: just echos from idle bodies
[04:03] <johnstar> does anyone know if there is a way to make g15 clock 12 hour?
[04:03] <zyth> sadistico, umm I don't see anything
[04:04] <sadistico> zyth: eh?
[04:04] <zyth> sadistico, put it on pastebin.ca
[04:04] <Gog123> klypso:  i dont even know which files were damaged.............. all i know is it had something to do with a corrupted file in google desktop, then it mentioned .dll files which had nothing to do with google desktop in index that it fixed
[04:04] <moomoo> klypso, i don't have any dual boots around, otherwise i'd fix it for ya
[04:04] <sadistico> zyth: what is that?
[04:04] <zyth> sadistico, a place to paste crap
[04:04] <fiberchunks> wkdown, if you're a kde type of person, kdevelop isn't bad
[04:04] <klypso> alephant: any clude?
[04:04] <sadistico> zyth: within xchat?
[04:04] <zyth> sadistico, web browser
[04:05] <mike__> okay the stalk kernel loads some Funky VGA console driver at boot time, that my monitor dont like so much, is there any way to Disable it ?
[04:05] <moomoo> while we are speaking of ide's, eclipse isn't bad either
[04:05] <alephant> klypso: looking...
[04:05] <klypso> alephant: thanks
[04:05] <fiberchunks> moomoo, indeed
[04:05] <moomoo> well eclipse power really is in the modules, so its only as good as the module its running
[04:05] <klypso> alephant: I get a error 29: diskwrite error
[04:05] <sadistico> zyth: ummmm i dont think i have that extension
[04:06] <sadistico> zyth: i tried opening a pm to, perhaps its autoblaocked?
[04:06] <zyth> sadistico, you go to pastebin.ca in firefox :P
[04:06] <alephant> klypso: I presume you googled that error?
[04:07] <mytruehero> How can I mount an ext3 filesystem so that non-root users can read/write to it?
[04:07] <klypso> alephant: just found changing root to rootnoverify, didn't help
[04:07] <mytruehero> Or rather, so that only a certain non-root user can read/write to it
[04:07] <jrib> mytruehero: use chmod and/or chgrp appropriately
[04:07] <sadistico> zyth: oh ok, thats new to me =D thanks here is the link http://pastebin.ca/351360
[04:07] <zyth> sadistico, ok sec
[04:07] <mytruehero> jrib: Can I put that in my fstab?
[04:07] <jrib> mytruehero: no it's just like any other file you have in your system.  You can set permissions on the files you mount
[04:08] <mytruehero> jrib: If I set it once, will I need to set it again everytime I reboot, and therefore remount the fs?
[04:08] <zyth> sadistico, when it asks 'Where can I find some driver source files?' what are you putting?
[04:08] <tha_toadman> can someone assist me with mounting a usb flash drive in ubuntu? i seem to keep receiving errors when i try to mount it
[04:08] <sadistico> zyth: the path to the file
[04:08] <alephant> klypso: is this error when you boot?  Or when you update-grub?
[04:08] <zyth> sadistico, that being...?
[04:08] <moomoo> tha_toadman, well you don't so much mount it, you let the system do it
[04:08] <moomoo> plug it in and it should appear on your desktop
[04:09] <klypso> alephant: when I boot
[04:09] <tha_toadman> moomoo - i'm using the command line
[04:09] <kazuka> hey
[04:09] <moomoo> tha_toadman, no desktop/
[04:09] <tha_toadman> alternate install
[04:09] <mytruehero> jrib: When I mount an ntfs volume, for instance, I can set the uid and gid to whatever I want right in the mount command. There's no equivalent for ext3?
[04:09] <tha_toadman> correct
[04:09] <moomoo> !mount
[04:09] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:09] <sadistico> zyth: /home/sadistico/Desktop/bcmwl5.sys
[04:09] <kazuka> does anyone know when will there be a ubuntu installer for playstation 3
[04:09] <frogzoo> tha_toadman: just plug it in - the HAL should pick it up if it has a valid file system
[04:09] <tha_toadman> when i issue 'mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/flash -- i get an error
[04:09] <jrib> mytruehero: no, you can set permissions on ext3.  They persist after unmounting and remounting etc.
[04:09] <klypso> alephant: should update-grub fix it?
[04:09] <zyth> sadistico, try leaving off the bcwml5.sys
[04:09] <alephant> I dunno
[04:10] <alephant> klypso: I was trying to get context for your error.  What do you do to generate the error?
[04:10] <Cryoniq> !backup
[04:10] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[04:10] <sadistico> zyth: still says pattern not found
[04:10] <frobro360> ok so no luck in #ndiswrapper, anyone willing in this channel to deal w/ a beginner?
[04:10] <newest> hey there, ive just installed the kubuntu desktop package on my otherwise ubuntu gnome lookin desktop, i have to add, KDE has faaaaaaaaaaaaaar superior look than gnome!
[04:10] <silence2205> hi
[04:10] <mytruehero> jrib: alright. do I do chmod +rw /dev/sdb1, or do I do the chmod to the mountpoint?
[04:10] <frobro360> regarding ndiswrapper
[04:10] <frogzoo> newest: only the default look ;)
[04:10] <klypso> alephant: I move down to the windows partition and boot it.  I get the error just after
[04:10] <jrib> mytruehero: chmod the mounted stuff
[04:11] <mytruehero> jrib: ok. thanks for the help :)
[04:11] <alephant> klypso: so you can't boot windows.  Thinking...
[04:11] <sadistico> zyth: im trying to follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy
[04:11] <fiberchunks> chaining?
[04:11] <sadistico> yth: if that helps
[04:11] <Wimpog> GUYS, I have installed Windows on one of my HDD (primary) and Linux on another HDD, to keep them separate. The problem is, when I restart computer Windows starts up. That is I cannot even select Linux. Any ideas why that happens???
[04:11] <jrib> mytruehero: you should think of it just like any other file you have on your system
[04:11] <sadistico> zyth: if that helps
[04:11] <newest> but theres one thing i dont know how to do with this installed kde desktop package, how do i actually change an entire theme? with gnome it was to click in preferences and select 'theme', but im not sure where the option is for KDE
[04:12] <moomoo> Wimpog, grub isn't installed in  your boot sector in your primary hd
[04:12] <zyth> sadistico, are you running this with sudo?
[04:12] <moomoo> Wimpog, if it was it would of autoconfigured it self to show options for win and linux
[04:12] <Wimpog> moomoo: Probably not, how do I install grub in the primary HDD now?
[04:12] <sadistico> zyth: no, tat isnt the problem i dont think
[04:12] <moomoo> !grub
[04:12] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:12] <zyth> sadistico, try it
[04:13] <newest> wow, KDE kicks windows ass even!
[04:13] <Wimpog> moomoo: that's really not cool that this happens...
[04:13] <moomoo> newest, install beryl at some point as well .. .its beta and buggy but if it works for you, you will be amazed
[04:13] <frogzoo> newest: so does gnome in fact
[04:13] <sadistico> zyth: kk
[04:13] <moomoo> Wimpog, why not? its your fault
[04:13] <moomoo> you didn't install it
[04:13] <alephant> klypso: sorry, it looks like your GRUB is just fine.
[04:13] <newest> i found gnome kinda dull myself
[04:13] <zyth> bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware /home/sadistico/Desktop/bcmwl5.sys
[04:13] <littlegator> Is there any way to make window borders translucent?
[04:13] <alephant> klypso: not to say that there's no problem, only that I can't see one.
[04:13] <zyth> sadistico,   bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware /home/sadistico/Desktop/bcmwl5.sys
[04:13] <faola1> I could never get beryl or compiz to work :(
[04:14] <alephant> klypso: good luck :-/
[04:14] <moomoo> newest, yeah i can't stand kde
[04:14] <Wimpog> moomoo: Yeah, well, I honestly did not know. The problem was that Windows required primary hdd, so I decided to dedicate that hdd to window.
[04:14] <gerald> zyth, i still can't get it to work, here is the updated version of my xorg.conf
[04:14] <gerald> http://pastebin.ca/351366
[04:14] <moomoo> for me its gnome all the way, its good to have choice
[04:14] <newest> too true
[04:14] <klypso> alephant hmm
[04:14] <moomoo> Wimpog, right, you didn't know :) and its okay not to know just take responsibility for that :)
[04:14] <gerald> i tried putthing those 2 options in my ati aticonfig monitor 0 as well
[04:14] <gerald> and still no go
[04:14] <zyth> sadistico, I recommend you go read http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch13_:_Linux_Wireless_Networking#Using_bcm43xx-fwcutter_with_Broadcom_Wireless_Chips
[04:14] <jumburrito> Whenever I install nvidia-glx drivers, I lose video output in X. This has happened to me in both Sabayon and now Ubuntu 64bit, anyone available to help me out?
[04:14] <klypso> alephant: thanks then
[04:15] <zyth> gerald, ergh k sec
[04:15] <Wimpog> moomoo: is it something notToHardToFix ?
[04:15] <Wimpog> ubotu: Thanks for that link
[04:15] <moomoo> Wimpog, i've never had to fix that but you can install grub afterwards shure, i gaveyou the linkage on all that info up there
[04:15] <pollywog> I just upgraded my Etch system and I suspect that because initramfs wrote new images, my system will not boot, is there still a way to make a boot floppy in Linux?
[04:15] <moomoo> reasearch it and give it a go, make sur eyou backup important data of course
[04:15] <Wimpog> moomoo: thanks a lot
[04:15] <frogzoo> so like does anyone know why my doze xp VM doesn't allow suspend inside vmware-player ?
[04:15] <sadistico> zyth: ok now it says Cannot write to "sudo /home/sadistico/desktop/bcmwl5.sys"  (press RETURN)
[04:16] <moomoo> Wimpog, your most welcome
[04:16] <Wimpog> moomoo: I'm not very good in Linux
[04:16] <moomoo> frogzoo, #vmware for that :)
[04:16] <pollywog> I know Debian had makeboot or something like that but I am not sure it still works
[04:16] <frogzoo> !docs | Wimpog
[04:16] <ubotu> Wimpog: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[04:16] <zyth> gerald, ok, remove all the dual monitor stuff and get your xorg back to working with just one monitor then run 'aticonfig --initial=dual-head --dtop=horizontal --screen-layout=right --iagp=off -v'
[04:16] <Wimpog> moomoo: that's why some of my questions maybe stupid
[04:16] <moomoo> Wimpog, oh heck yeah, no worries.  welcome.  :)
[04:16] <frogzoo> moomoo: kthx, I'll give it a shot
[04:16] <comradeC> does anyone have expierence with broadcom 4318 wireless adapter, after a fresh install of ubuntu, it actually shows up as eth1, but I can't get it to find any access points
[04:16] <zyth> sadistico, you're tying something wrong somewhere.  It should'nt be trying to find anything called sudo
[04:16] <zyth> sadistico, I recommend you go read http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch13_:_Linux_Wireless_Networking#Using_bcm43xx-fwcutter_with_Broadcom_Wireless_Chips
[04:17] <moomoo> frogzoo, *nod*
[04:17] <gerald> k
[04:17] <tcpip> please help .. need to limit speed of users on tinyproxy
[04:17] <zyth> gerald, I am looking @ http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors#With_the_proprietary_binary_driver
[04:18] <sadistico> zyth: k i havent tried that link yet
[04:18] <Gog123> anyone know if ubuntu proper will be able to be had with the freespire/linspire codecs?
[04:18] <littlegator> Is there any way to make Mouse3 act as it does in Windows?
[04:18] <Gog123> without the kde part
[04:18] <pollywog> does anyone know if the paid Ubuntu support is any good?
[04:18] <Gog123> or would i have to use the linspire/freespire base which will be based off of ubuntu to get them
[04:18] <moomoo> tcpip, thats not really an ubuntu topic tho ... we can really only help with ubuntu basic installs
[04:18] <BrianG> anyknow know why unbuntu will stop notifying me of updated packages?
[04:19] <Gog123> i prefer to use regular ubuntu
[04:19] <BrianG> has
[04:19] <Gog123> but if i have to ill use kde
[04:19] <moomoo> tcpip, the best source for tinyproxy info is on their forums i would guess
[04:19] <Gog123> and linspire
[04:19] <klypso> anybody else who has an idea about how to fix GRUB?
[04:19] <pollywog> Gog123: they announced the next Linspire version will be based on Ubuntu but I think they will still have the proprietary drivers
[04:19] <tcpip> moomoo: thanks
[04:20] <pollywog> klypso are you gettting an initramfs shell when you reboot?
[04:20] <Gog123> pollywog:  The collaboration between the two is great IMHO cause the biggest issue with ubuntu was the missing codecs
[04:20] <moomoo> yup
[04:20] <pollywog> Gog123: yes same with Debian
[04:20] <Gog123> pollywog:  so ubuntu just gets stronger :-)
[04:20] <pollywog> yep
[04:20] <littlegator> Is there any way to make Mouse3 act as it does in Windows?
[04:20] <klypso> pollywog: initramfs?
[04:20] <xerophyte> how reliable DVD backup for a data just wondering ?
[04:20] <moomoo> Gog123, its not really an issue at all ... its just that windows users don't understand 'freedom' and why its important
[04:20] <klypso> pollywog: I try to boot and I get a Disk Write Error
[04:21] <Gog123> pollywog:  I felt strongly when another distro came out, at the time lycoris but i think it wound up merging with mandrake or something and it sucked thereafter
[04:21] <pollywog> klypso yes I had that problem twice after upgrading
[04:21] <klypso> pollywog: fix?
[04:21] <moomoo> we have most of that but one should try not to use them as much as possible
[04:21] <Gog123> pollywog:  Ubuntu doesnt seem to be running into the same problem, it just keeps GROWING and getting stronger and MORE support than ever
[04:21] <pollywog> klypso: I think the fix it not upgrading
[04:21] <klypso> pollywog: /not/ upgrading?  what?
[04:21] <Gog123> pollywog:  Still #1 on distrowatch :-)
[04:21] <tcpip> moomoo: how do i lock screen.. like in windows (windows key + L)
[04:22] <pollywog> klypso: I think I missed up when I upgraded from universe and multiverse
[04:22] <moomoo> tcpip, click the power button and select lock ... or add the lock applet to your panel by right clicking and selecting it
[04:22] <faola1> I'm actually surprise SuSE hasn't been at the top yet. it is on par with ubuntu
[04:22] <klypso> pollywog: uninstall grub and get an older version?
[04:22] <moomoo> suse isn't on par with ubuntu
[04:22] <klypso> pollywog: is that how you fixed it?
[04:22] <pollywog> klypso: that might work but I had to reinstall
[04:22] <moomoo> as long as its based on that crappy rpm package manager suse users will forever be dealing with rpm hell
[04:22] <sadistico> zyth: on that link you gave me http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch13_:_Linux_Wireless_Networking#Using_bcm43xx-fwcutter_with_Broadcom_Wireless_Chips , am i supposed to be directing it to the .sys file?
[04:23] <Pelo> it is becoming difficult to troubleshoot my bro over the phone since he still insist on using windows xp and I am now on ubuntu. I remember that when two ppl use XP one can take control of the other's computer ( or at least view the screeen) using msn messenger, can this be done using gaim and msn ? or is there another alternative ?
[04:23] <pollywog> but a few minutes ago I did an upgrade and I think it was a big mistake
[04:23] <klypso> pollywog: i'll try that, and tell you how it goes.  thanks
[04:23] <moomoo> also suse has the huge problem of novel and their little deal with microsoft
[04:23] <Gog123> moomoo:  When google had to fight the DOJ on the alleged COPA incident
[04:23] <moomoo> suse will always have problems
[04:23] <pollywog> just don't upgrade from universe or multiverse
[04:23] <Gog123> moomoo:  I knew then what it meant
[04:23] <clearzen> Pelo: xvncviewer
[04:23] <Gog123> moomoo:  microsoft handed over the data, google didnt
[04:23] <sadistico> zyth: the part where it says [root@bigboy tmp] # bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware bcmwl5.sys do i just change the /lib/firmware directory to reflect where my .sys file is?
[04:23] <Pelo> clearzen,  on both computers or what ?
[04:24] <moomoo> Gog123, yup
[04:24] <pollywog> I thought Google caved eventually
[04:24] <Gog123> moomoo:  When I heard Marissa speak about it (shes vp of user experience at google) at stanford, i saw a person i admired so deeply
[04:24] <clearzen> Pelo: no, he needs a vnc program installed on his pc as well though
[04:24] <pollywog> but the data is aggregate
[04:24] <Gog123> moomoo:  She has her head on straight, shes a laser beam, i wish i was her :)
[04:24] <Pelo> clearzen,  thanks I'll read up on that
[04:24] <moomoo> heh
[04:24] <jumburrito> Whenever I install nvidia-glx drivers, I lose video output in X. This has happened to me in both Sabayon and now Ubuntu 64bit, anyone available to help me out?
[04:24] <Gog123> moomoo:  im dying to pop in by the hotel shell be at and thank her
[04:25] <gerald> it still doesn't work :(
[04:25] <moomoo> yeah so far they are doing a great job negotiating amine field
[04:25] <Gog123> moomoo:  i feel so bad about jim gray
[04:25] <gerald> should I mention my 2nd monitor is a 17" and my lcd monitor is a 14"?
[04:25] <Gog123> even though i disagree with microsoft
[04:25] <Gog123> moomoo:  He was one of the few good people at microsoft IMHO
[04:25] <moomoo> well, people die every day, they are all equally sad to my way of thinking
[04:25] <Gog123> moomoo:  Hes not dead, at least we dont know that yet
[04:26] <moomoo> well i wouldn't wish any ill will on balmer for example, balmer is probably a very decent dude
[04:26] <Gog123> moomoo:  its weird cause i had a call to my cell phone one day and I could have sworn I saw a 250 #
[04:26] <Gog123> which would have meant british columbia
[04:26] <Gog123> then shortly thereafter i hear jim gray is missing
[04:26] <Gog123> on the news
[04:26] <moomoo> he's just part of that american capitalist cult ... they have that strange way of interpreting captialism as a paradigm of worship
[04:26] <Madpilot> Gog123, moomoo - please take the off-topic chat elsewhere, thanks
[04:26] <Gog123> anyways
[04:26] <[BTF] Chm0d> well i was having no sound using onboard audio today which just quit for no reason that i know of so i went out and bought an sb audigy se and I still have no sound.  I have followed some howtos with no results pls help get my sound!! :)
[04:27] <killermach> I just ran lshw on my laptop running ubunutu 6.06 and it shows my cpu is a P4 2.4Ghz, but below this within the CPU category, it says "size: 1200Mhz", does this mean that my cpu is runnin 1/2 speed like it should if it were on battery power?
[04:28] <EdgEy> killermach, not just battery power. modern cpu's can scale down if not under load
[04:28] <EdgEy> try running something cpu intensive
[04:28] <sadistico> s
[04:29] <DEinspanjer> Hey guys.. Does anyone have pointers on doing a clean install of Edgy from a Live CD on a computer with an NVIDIA 8800 GTX?
[04:29] <loupgaroublond> why do i not have font smoothing in a stock install of ubuntu?
[04:29] <moomoo> DEinspanjer, just install it then install nvidia-glx afterwards
[04:29] <frogzoo> [BTF] Chm0d: sound -> volume control
[04:29] <moomoo> !nvidia
[04:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:30] <moomoo> thats all there is to do
[04:30] <tcpip> moomoo: i cant find 'lock screen' in add to panel
[04:30] <sadistico> can someone tell me how to get the permissions to copy a file to my /lib/firmware folder?
[04:30] <pollywog> it worked for me, installed nvidia-glx and that got everything needed
[04:30] <moomoo> tcpip, desktop and windows group
[04:30] <pollywog> I just had to edit /etc/modules and xorg.conf
[04:30] <EdgEy> worked for me with a 7900GTO
[04:31] <killermach> EdgEy: during this I was copying a 3.5GB ISO from usb2.0 external HD and my cpu fan was running pretty fast
[04:31] <jumburrito> when I install drivers for my card I lose Xserver video output
[04:31] <DEinspanjer> moomoo: I saw some references to an Alternate install CD, is this what I need to be able to install without X?
[04:31] <jumburrito> and I wish I knew why but I can't seem to find anyone that knows anything about it
[04:31] <EdgEy> why would you install without X?
[04:31] <moomoo> DEinspanjer, well you can remove x at any time, there is no difference
[04:31] <tcpip> moomoo: yeah i am looking there but theres no 'lock screen'
[04:31] <moomoo> DEinspanjer, alternate uses d-i for installation and it lets you install a headless system yep
[04:32] <pollywog> jumburrito: was it working before you installed glx?
[04:32] <jumburrito> yes
[04:32] <Music_Shuffle> EdgEy, servers, headless installs, etc.
[04:32] <DEinspanjer> Because the live CD dies saying that X couldn't be started because no Screen could be found.
[04:32] <jumburrito> it runs fine pre glx nvidia drivers
[04:32] <pollywog> jumburrito: does lsmod show the nvidia module loaded?
[04:32] <DEinspanjer> It is trying to use the nv driver which doesn't support the 8800.
[04:32] <moomoo> tcpip, i don't know what to tell you, its there for everyone else.  your not running feisty by any chance?
[04:32] <sadistico> can i have someone please help me a bit with this link? http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch13_:_Linux_Wireless_Networking#Using_bcm43xx-fwcutter_with_Broadcom_Wireless_Chips
[04:32] <EdgEy> DEinspanjer, ah
[04:32] <jumburrito> but when I enable the nvidia drivers in xorg X dies
[04:32] <sadistico> i copied the bcmwl5.sys file to my desktop
[04:32] <jumburrito> let me reboot into ubuntu give me a minute
[04:32] <pollywog> I think it's what DEinspanjer said
[04:32] <tcpip> i just upgraded from dapper to edgy
[04:32] <killermach> I want to burn an ISO to DVD, but K3B keeps crashing, I have no other issues, what other burning app could I use for this?
[04:33] <ardchoille> killermach: gnomebaker is good
[04:33] <pollywog> you need to replace the driver nv line in xorg.conf with nvidia
[04:33] <jumburrito> do you want me to boot into X or stay at the terminal
[04:33] <killermach> ardchoille: thanks
[04:33] <[BTF] Chm0d> frogzoo im not that dumb :)
[04:34] <jumburrito> that's exactly when the trouble starts, pollywog
[04:34] <frogzoo> [BTF] Chm0d: there's more options there than you know
[04:34] <pollywog> try to load nvidia module
[04:34] <[BTF] Chm0d> no ive tried all of them ;)
[04:34] <pollywog> oh did you restart the X server or kdm after you installed nvidia-glx?
[04:34] <jumburrito> gnome
[04:34] <zDesignerz> ctrl+alt+del
[04:35] <pollywog> gdm then
[04:35] <jumburrito> CTRL+ALT+Backspace right?
[04:35] <pollywog> no
[04:35] <zDesignerz> del
[04:35] <ardchoille> killermach: When you get gnomebaker installed, have a look at the Tools menu
[04:35] <[BTF] Chm0d> ubuntu is not detecting my soundcard...i thought for sure ubuntu would be ok with a soundblaster but it seems i was wrong
[04:35] <jumburrito> i followed a guide, think it was on the wiki
[04:35] <pollywog> jumburrito: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:35] <[BTF] Chm0d> and this is a fresh install of edgy
[04:35] <DEinspanjer> So is the alt CD what I have to use?
[04:35] <jumburrito> yeah that was the other way listed, is that a better way of restarting?
[04:35] <moomoo> [BTF] Chm0d, it should be fine, they always work for me
[04:36] <pollywog> DEinspanjer: if you want to avoid a slow install, yes
[04:36] <frogzoo> [BTF] Chm0d: try under file -> change device & edit -> preferences
[04:36] <tcpip> moomoo: i tried switch user .. it gives me a login screen .. which is i want.. but it automatically shows desktop after sometime
[04:36] <pollywog> jumburrito: yes
[04:36] <sadistico> can i please get some help with a bcm43xx-fwcutter issue?
[04:36] <jumburrito> i did lsmod, what am I looking for?
[04:36] <moomoo> tcpip, nope
[04:36] <pollywog> jumburrito: look for nvidia
[04:36] <pollywog> is it there?
[04:36] <moomoo> tcpip, when you click the red power button you will have a lock screen button amonths the 6
[04:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> done that too....like i said it hasnt detected my card
[04:37] <moomoo> tcpip, oh wiat a minute
[04:37] <quinnster> I'm looking for a different look for Ubuntu and know I need to look for themes.  On gnome-look.org I see GTK1.x, GTK2.x, Metacity, Compiz, Beryl, etc. (many more).  What category do I want to look at for Ubuntu (or should I be looking elsewhere?)  Thanks!!!
[04:37] <moomoo> are you running kde?
[04:37] <pollywog> jumburrito: if not, then do modprobe nvidia
[04:37] <jumburrito> pollywog: I don't see it there
[04:37] <pollywog> then the lsmod command again
[04:37] <moomoo> tcpip, if so #kubuntu please.  we only help gnome/ubuntu here.
[04:37] <sadistico> can anyone help me with a broadcom nic wireless issue?
[04:37] <jumburrito> Not loading nvidia_legacy module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:37] <tcpip> am on ubuntu only
[04:37] <jumburrito> is that because I don't have "nvidia" in my xorg.conf atm?
[04:37] <ubuntu_cry> pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[04:38] <pollywog> jumburrito: I know the problem then
[04:38] <pollywog> jumburrito: yes
[04:38] <jumburrito> i reverted back to "nv" so I could load X again
[04:38] <ubuntu_cry> someone help
[04:38] <moomoo> okay, tcpip when you click on the pwoer button do you have a lock screen icon?
[04:38] <pollywog> put nvidia in there
[04:38] <ubuntu_cry> i can't make partition
[04:38] <sadistico> can someone please help me?
[04:38] <pollywog> then load the module and then restart gdm
[04:38] <tcpip> moomoo: no two buttons in top row (log out and switch user)
[04:38] <ubuntu_cry> when i run gparten
[04:38] <pollywog> jumburrito: one more thing
[04:38] <moomoo> tcpip, oh! i don't think you have screensaver installed
[04:39] <pollywog> in xorg.conf remove the load dri line
[04:39] <ubuntu_cry> and try to resize it give me 2 error
[04:39] <moomoo> tcpip, check system / pref / screensaver
[04:39] <pollywog> if you have not done that
[04:39] <jumburrito> no I haven't
[04:39] <jumburrito> where is it exactly?
[04:39] <pollywog> do that
[04:39] <pollywog> just a sec let me check mine
[04:39] <tcpip> moomoo: nothin like that here
[04:39] <moomoo> tcpip, thats why
[04:39] <ubuntu_cry> Parted can't resize partition managed by Windows Dynamic DIsk pleaseeeee someone help
[04:39] <moomoo> locking the screen simply invokes the screen saver
[04:40] <moomoo> sec
[04:40] <ubuntu_cry> bruenig
[04:40] <ubuntu_cry> man where are you
[04:40] <ubuntu_cry> tonyrussooo hey are you here
[04:40] <Boyman> me?
[04:40] <pollywog> in Section "Module"
[04:40] <tcpip> moomoo: gnome-screensaver?
[04:40] <moomoo> yeah thats the one
[04:40] <moomoo> install that
[04:40] <quinnster> ubuntu_cry: you're trying to resize an NTFS partition?
[04:40] <jumburrito> what am I removing?
[04:40] <pollywog> it says "Load "dri" "
[04:41] <ubuntu_cry> quinnster i yes
[04:41] <jumburrito> i don't have that
[04:41] <Boyman> help
[04:41] <pollywog> remove one line, the one that says "Load  dri"
[04:41] <moomoo> Boyman, just ask
[04:41] <pollywog> good then you just insiert nvidia
[04:41] <moomoo> oh wait you did
[04:41] <Boyman> rdesktop
[04:41] <moomoo> heh
[04:41] <pollywog> and save
[04:41] <quinnster> ubuntu_cry: I believe you have to defragment your NTFS partition first to have any luck.  Although the easiest way seems to be just backing up your data and making a whole new partition.
[04:41] <ubuntu_cry> quinnster man can you help me
[04:41] <jumburrito> okay
[04:41] <jumburrito> now what
[04:41] <devz0r> ok this is driving me insane.  I am trying to print a test page to my dell 3100cn colour printer in the "Letter (8.5 x 11 in)" paper size.  I print a test page, and the printer beeps and complains that the "A4" dock isn't loaded with paper - but I'M NOT USING A4!  I don't know if this is a driver issue or a cups issue, but I am getting so frustrated with it.
[04:41] <tcpip> moomoo: thanks a lot
[04:41] <moomoo> tcpip, welcome
[04:41] <pollywog> now stop gdm
[04:41] <ubuntu_cry> quinster man how to defrag it man please say me
[04:42] <pollywog> then load nvidia module with modprobe
[04:42] <jumburrito> do I have to stop it if I am not in it?
[04:42] <pollywog> make sure it is stopped
[04:42] <jumburrito> okay what is the command?
[04:42] <quinnster> ubuntu_cry: Well, you'd have to do it in Windows... There is a default defragment program and numerous freeware/commercial versions.
[04:42] <ubuntu_cry> quinnster man i have faul 200gb i can't back up data
[04:42] <pollywog>  it's /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:42] <jumburrito> okay
[04:42] <jumburrito> stopped
[04:42] <ubuntu_cry> quinnster and when i defrag what i need to do after that\
[04:42] <pollywog> then do modprobe nvidia and then start gdm
[04:43] <sw33t> \say hey
[04:43] <sw33t> hello
[04:43] <jumburrito> Error running install command for nvidia
[04:43] <ubuntu_cry> !defrag
[04:43] <ubotu> defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[04:43] <sw33t> i have a question.
[04:43] <jumburrito> what did I muck up?
[04:43] <sw33t> \say how do i enable Telnet on ubuntu?
[04:43] <clearzen> How do you change the skydome in beryl?
[04:43] <sw33t> how do i enable telnet on ubuntu?
[04:43] <quinnster> ubuntu_cry: well, after you defrag it should show you where your data is.  you want all the data to be moved from the right (end) to the left (beginning) so that whatever you use can know it can use the empty part of your NTFS partition and resize it.
[04:43] <sw33t> how do i enable telnet on ubuntu?
[04:43] <pollywog> when you installed nvidia-glx were some other packages fetched?
[04:43] <sw33t> how do i enable telnet on ubuntu?
[04:44] <jumburrito> gosh I don't remember
[04:44] <jumburrito> it was yesterday that I installed nvidia-glx
[04:44] <killermach> ardchoille: ok.. I figured out why k3b crashes, /var/log/messages shows "localhost kernel: [17191591.736000]  usb 3-1: USB disconnect, address 7"
[04:44] <quinnster> ubuntu_cry: I never had great success with this.  It depends on how full your 200GB drive is and how much room there is to rearrange stuff--and on MS's defrag program which doesn't put this at its highest priority.
[04:44] <binarydigit> sw33t: why would yo udo such a thing
[04:44] <binarydigit> sw33t: use ssh
[04:44] <ubuntu_cry> quinnster man i will try becouse in the moment i can't backup data all data that i backup is 300gb and i need to return Seagate 200GB
[04:44] <sw33t> cause im runing a czero server
[04:44] <moomoo> sw33t, you just install it fbut for f's sake don't ever use telnet
[04:44] <killermach> wonder why my device goes offline.. time for testing
[04:44] <clearzen> sw33t: or rlogin I guess
[04:44] <sw33t> and umm i vnc it cause dont have monitor
[04:44] <Hirvinen> sw33t: You don't want to enable telnet.
[04:44] <ubuntu_cry> quinnster man listen now
[04:44] <binarydigit> use ssh for the love of god
[04:45] <ubuntu_cry> quinnster man i have on 300gb free 21gb
[04:45] <sw33t> When i VNC i cant see other login screens when i press ctrl+alt
[04:45] <sw33t> and dats y i need telnet.
[04:45] <binarydigit> huh
[04:45] <ubuntu_cry> quinnster and i want to install this 21gb UBuntu or WIndows xp
[04:45] <clearzen> sw33t: lol
[04:45] <pollywog> jumburrito: do dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[04:45] <sw33t> so how can i do dat?
[04:45] <tcpip> moomoo: installed screensaver, its shows a lock button.. but it aint locking
[04:45] <binarydigit> sw33t: not making much sense
[04:45] <sw33t> ok listen
[04:45] <jumburrito> what am I looking for?
[04:46] <ubuntu_cry> quinnster but when i run partition magic it give me yellow and from there i can't partition it,the only thing that UBUntu give me is from gparted
[04:46] <pollywog> two nvidia packages
[04:46] <sw33t> u know how u can login more dan once on linux.?
[04:46] <quinnster> ubuntu_cry: well, defragmenters usually request ~15% free disk space at a minimum to move stuff around.  if you have lots of big files it may be tough with limited space.  So, you want a 185GB WinXP partition and a 15GB Ubuntu or WindowsXP partition?
[04:46] <sw33t> with ctrl+alt and 1 true 6
[04:46] <pollywog> nvidia-glx and nvidia-common
[04:46] <binarydigit> right
[04:46] <moomoo> tcpip, well turn it on in the system/preferences/screensaver dealie
[04:46] <jumburrito> I have glx   glx-legacy     kernel-common for nvidia
[04:46] <sw33t> i cant see it when i vnc linux is all black
[04:46] <sw33t> .say so i need telnet.
[04:46] <quinnster> ubuntu_cry: well, I would defragment and see what success that will give you.  Like I said, may not be a lot.  If you're actually using that much of your hard drive, I'd suggest buying a backup.
[04:46] <pollywog> jumburrito: Edgy?
[04:46] <binarydigit> vnc only works through X
[04:46] <jumburrito> yes
[04:46] <jumburrito> 64bit
[04:46] <binarydigit> use ssh, you dont need telner
[04:47] <pollywog> I think that is wrong but I don't use 64 bit
[04:47] <ubuntu_cry> quinnster man i have 300gb how free i need to have to defragment need to be succesful.
[04:47] <pollywog> are you sure you changed the nv line to nvidia correctly?
[04:47] <jumburrito> yes
[04:47] <pollywog> in xorg.conf
[04:47] <pollywog> k
[04:47] <jumburrito> the legacy entry seems to be an earlier version than the regualar glx
[04:48] <pollywog> try lsmod | grep nvidia
[04:48] <quinnster> ubuntu_cry: as I said, most programs I've dealt with request a minimum of 15% (apx) to do their work.  But, I'm confused.  Do you have an empty 300GB drive and a mostly full (185GB) 200GB drive?
[04:48] <jumburrito> nothin happened
[04:48] <ubuntu_cry> quinnster man listen
[04:48] <pollywog> you are doing this with sudo or as root?
[04:48] <jumburrito> sudo
[04:48] <kitche> jumburrito: nvidia-legacy and nvidia-glx is almost he same version just that nvidia numbers them different
[04:48] <pollywog> k
[04:49] <jumburrito> oh okay
[04:49] <ubuntu_cry> quinnster man now i have 300gb hard disk and have 21gb from him free
[04:49] <jumburrito> so I got them at the same time?
[04:49] <pollywog> do you have nvidia-common installed?
[04:49] <ubuntu_cry> quinnster and i have 200gb that i need to return today to Seagate becoue smart status sais that is bad\
[04:49] <pollywog> nvidia-kernel-common
[04:49] <jumburrito> me?
[04:49] <pollywog> yes
[04:49] <jumburrito> I couldn't say
[04:50] <ubuntu_cry> quinnster and now all backup is in 300gb and now i have 21 gb free
[04:50] <jumburrito> if so, I didn't do it
[04:50] <pollywog> dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[04:50] <ubuntu_cry> quinnster now what i need to do,please man say something.
[04:50] <jumburrito> when I do that command it shows up, does that mean it is installed?
[04:51] <quinnster> ubuntu_cry: OK, well 21GB free is less than 15% free.  So, try to defrag.  Try it more than once.  See if it can move the data towards the beginning of the partition (it will show you a diagram).  But, being so full you might not have as much success.  You'll have to give it a try to find out.
[04:51] <pollywog> does it show ii at the beginning of the lne?
[04:51] <pollywog> line
[04:51] <jumburrito> yes
[04:51] <pollywog> it is installed then
[04:51] <jumburrito> rc is in front of nvidia-glx and ii is in front of the legacy drivers
[04:51] <jumburrito> does that mean glx is not installed?
[04:51] <pollywog> k that means it is removed
[04:51] <sw33t> how i enable ssh?
[04:51] <pollywog> install it
[04:51] <ubuntu_cry> quinnster man.Thanks i will see now ok see ya .
[04:51] <ron_o> can one burn a ubuntu iso to a cd-rw?
[04:51] <quinnster> ubuntu_cry: good luck
[04:51] <quinnster> ron_o: yes
[04:52] <ubuntu_cry> quinnster man.THANKS.
[04:52] <jumburrito> sudo install nvidia-glx    ?
[04:52] <pollywog> yes
[04:52] <jumburrito> i want to make sure I do this right =)
[04:52] <ron_o> quinnster: someone in #hardware said no, and I'm getting errors on my install disk.
[04:52] <pollywog> sudo apt-get install
[04:52] <pollywog> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[04:52] <sw33t> how i install ssh?
[04:52] <jumburrito> install: missing destination file operand after 'nvidia-glx'
[04:52] <jumburrito> oh
[04:52] <ron_o> it says the CD-ROM drive contains a CD which cannot be used for installation.
[04:52] <pollywog> sw33t: sudo apt-get install ssh
[04:52] <Wimpog> GUYS is it a good idea to use LVM for Ubuntu Server??? When should LVM be used?
[04:53] <moomoo> !lvm
[04:53] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:53] <Kickersny> how can I log off all users?
[04:53] <jumburrito> okay
[04:53] <jumburrito> done
[04:53] <jumburrito> no errors
[04:53] <quinnster> ron_o: Is it a re-writable CD that's been re-written quite a few times?
[04:53] <sw33t> cool
[04:53] <pollywog> now try to load nvidia module
[04:53] <pollywog> modprobe nvidia
[04:53] <ron_o> quinnster: no. Only once or twice.
[04:53] <sw33t> how i acess from windowns now
[04:53] <jumburrito> same thing
[04:53] <pollywog> sudo modprobe nvidia
[04:54] <pollywog> you might have some other module loaded that is interfering
[04:54] <pollywog> rmmod nv
[04:54] <jumburrito> okay, it didn't error this time
[04:54] <pollywog> k
[04:54] <killermach> ardchoille: ouch.. gnomebaker made a disc that my dvd player says "disc error" when I press play. the ext. DVDRW did not go "USB Offline" this time, so I'm not sure if the problem was k3b, the usb dvdrw or gnomebaker now hmmm
[04:54] <quinnster> ron_o: To make sure I'm not wrong I checked a Ubuntu download and the ISO is < 700MB ( http://cudlug.cudenver.edu/ubuntu-cd/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso ) so I don't see how that wouldn't fit on a CD (non-business card CD assumed).
[04:54] <pollywog> now restart gdm
[04:54] <jumburrito> took a second but never returned anything
[04:54] <pollywog>  use /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:55] <ron_o> quinnster: then why the error? It says my medium is unsuitable. Maybe some other error.
[04:55] <ardchoille> killermach: Are you backing up a DVD movie?
[04:55] <quinnster> ron_0: I had something similar happen to me with a RW DVD for Vista.  Searching forums said to use a new non RW DVD.
[04:55] <jumburrito> nope
[04:55] <whitehawk1966> Just did a Fresh install - I change the Video resultion - now gone crazy - How do I reset?
[04:55] <jumburrito>  heard the sound but my monitor lost signal
[04:55] <pollywog> lsmod
[04:55] <pollywog> sudo lsmod
[04:55] <d0uglas> what's the gnome equiv of superkaramba?
[04:55] <pollywog> is nvidia there?
[04:56] <iSeriesTech> hello
[04:56] <iSeriesTech> question please
[04:56] <quinnster> ron_o: That fixed the problem for me.  I've never gotten into it, but apparently there are many different qualities of CD/DVD media and the RW stuff is cheaper.
[04:56] <killermach> ardchoille: no I filmed a play to minidv , then made a dvd, saved as an ISO  and have already made some copies so the ISO is good.. maybe I had bad media on the dvdrw
[04:56] <kitche> d0uglas: maybe gdesklets but gnome doesn't really have a thing like superkaramba that I know of
[04:56] <sw33t> how i ssh to windows/?
[04:56] <iSeriesTech> I just upgraded Ubuntu 6.10 to the .11 kernal
[04:56] <sw33t> do i use putty?
[04:56] <iSeriesTech>  and now X wont start? Any clues?
[04:56] <quinnster> sw33t: Yes, putty is good.
[04:56] <d0uglas> kitche: well then i guess it's kubuntu time ;)
[04:56] <quinnster> sw33t: and WinSCP is good for file transfers (over SSH).
[04:56] <jumburrito> yes
[04:57] <jumburrito> first module shown
[04:57] <whitehawk1966> ?
[04:57] <d0uglas> momma's gotta have her embedded cpu monitor
[04:57] <kitche> sw33t: to or from since windows doesn't have a true sshd server it has ports
[04:57] <ardchoille> killermach: Yeah, perhaps the DVDRW was bad media. I have had no problems with gnomebaker at all.
[04:57] <pollywog> what errors do you see when you restart gdm?
[04:57] <d0uglas> translucent over her central park background
[04:57] <pollywog> there should be some errors in a log file
[04:57] <jumburrito> i didn't get to see any errors, it just started gdm
[04:57] <iSeriesTech> just that it will not start or is not configured right
[04:57] <jumburrito> but when gdm starts, I lose video output
[04:58] <pollywog> try this key combo
[04:58] <jumburrito> but it started, I heard the sound made when the login screen pops up
[04:58] <pollywog> ctrl-alt-f7
[04:58] <jumburrito> nope
[04:58] <jumburrito> no video
[04:58] <iSeriesTech> I just upgraded Ubuntu 6.10 to the .11 kernal
[04:58] <jumburrito> ctrl-alt-f1 and it comes back
[04:58] <frobro360> question, got an issue, ndiswrapper could really use some help
[04:58] <iSeriesTech>  and now X wont start? Any clues?
[04:58] <killermach> ardchoille: hmm.. gnomebaker finished a 3.5GB iso in 4 minutes I turn the disc over and compare it to one that plays and it only burned 1/4 of what it should have
[04:58] <pollywog> jumburrito: I don't know what is wrong
[04:59] <jumburrito> story of my life =(
[04:59] <killermach> ardchoille: well I'm not quick to blame gnomebaker.. cause I was already having problems
[04:59] <jumburrito> i had the same issue with Sabayon
[04:59] <pollywog> the only thing left to try is a reboot
[04:59] <killermach> ardchoille: now gnomebaker is taking more than 20 minutes
[04:59] <EvilMonk> I am trying to get xgl working, but i don't have gnome-window-decorator on the system, what package do i need?
[04:59] <pollywog> but don't do that if you are not sure it won't boot
[04:59] <jumburrito> okay
[04:59] <pollywog> but don't do that if you are not sure it will boot
[04:59] <jumburrito> it always boots
[04:59] <pollywog> k
[05:00] <jumburrito> but when I boot into GUI, i lose video and have to ctrl-alt-f1 to see again
[05:00] <mhiku> where can i download gnatbind? what website?
[05:00] <mackinac> iSeriesTech, the kernel update has caused a lot of people trouble - check ubuntuforums
[05:00] <mhiku> i mean who owns gnatbind?
[05:00] <jumburrito> my monitor goes into no signal mode and starts searching for active inputs
[05:00] <frobro360> using wusb54gs got drivers loaded and "working" in ndiswrapper, not getting interface in network configuration
[05:00] <jumburrito> and then when I disable GUI it comes back immediately
[05:01] <frobro360> loaded the module and everything
[05:01] <kitche> iSeriesTech: use the old kernel for now or install your video driver manually sicne I bet you have an ati or nvidia card
[05:01] <pollywog> you are sure an X server is installed?
[05:01] <sw33t> ok i did it
[05:01] <jumburrito> i'm at the login screen with no video
[05:01] <sw33t> but
[05:01] <sw33t> How can i check my other seesions?
[05:01] <sw33t> like 1 and 2?
[05:01] <pollywog> you might try tasksel
[05:01] <jumburrito> I imagine, wouldn't there have to be if I could boot up into it
[05:01] <pollywog> and select desktop
[05:01] <kitche> jumburrito: it soudsn liekt o me X is setup for wrong frequency
[05:01] <sw33t> i wan to see wuts running on ctrl+alt+f2
[05:01] <sw33t> is it posible with SSH?
[05:02] <sw33t> i wan to see wuts running on ctrl+alt+f2
[05:02] <sw33t> is it posible with SSH?
[05:02] <jumburrito> what am I doing with tasksel?
[05:02] <jumburrito> how can I change the frequency?
[05:02] <pollywog> kitche might be right
[05:02] <pollywog> or you do not have an X server installed
[05:02] <jumburrito> my montior will do 12x10@75
[05:03] <jumburrito> how would I know if I don't have an X server
[05:03] <fiberchunks> see if there's an XFree log in /var/log
[05:03] <pollywog> what I did was I started tasksel
[05:03] <pollywog> but check for a log file first
[05:03] <kitche> jumburrito: /var/log/Xorg.0.log see if it says anything
[05:03] <jumburrito> no Xfree log, just Xorg logs
[05:04] <pollywog> check that log then
[05:04] <pollywog> I wonder if the command that installs a windowing system in Debian would work here
[05:05] <pollywog> do the update-alternatives commands work in Ubuntu?
[05:06] <IanL> pollywog: I've used them,
[05:06] <britt> how do i run programs at login BEFORE X boots up?
[05:06] <jumburrito> the only Errors I see pertain to /dev/wacom  and /usr/share/fonts/X11 stuff
[05:07] <jumburrito> the fonts errors are at the bottom of the log, 3 of them
[05:07] <fiberchunks> well, if you don't have a wacom tablet, you can remove all that cruft from the file (why do they do that by default, anyway?)
[05:07] <pollywog> jumburrito you have an nvidia card installed right?
[05:07] <shatrat> jumbers, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and chooes the defaults when you dont know the answer to the script
[05:07] <jumburrito> installed in my machine?
[05:08] <jumburrito> yes
[05:08] <pollywog> yes
[05:08] <pollywog> k
[05:08] <jumburrito> haha
[05:08] <jumburrito> gotta ask, huh?
[05:08] <pollywog> try what shatrat said
[05:08] <jumbers> shatrat: Wrong person ;)
[05:08] <jumburrito> lol
[05:08] <shatrat> jumbers, yeah, well its always a fun little script.
[05:08] <fiberchunks> heh
[05:08] <shatrat> jumburrito, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:08] <britt> how do i run a script automatically before X starts up
[05:09] <shatrat> jumburrito, if you had nvidia drivers and they broke with the kernel upgrade, choose the "nv" driver when you get ot that part
[05:09] <pollywog> britt that depends on the session manager, you using one?
[05:09] <jumburrito> i don't know what that means
[05:09] <britt> pollywog: currently, not now
[05:09] <jumburrito> i see nv and nvidia drivers on the list
[05:09] <sadistico> zyth: im still trying that link you gave me
[05:10] <shatrat> jumburrito, use the "nv" one and you will get a limited graphical environment back
[05:10] <nastjuid> diggin ubuntu so far, but when i try to use the 'nv' driver, i get graphical errors and the system hangs. What are the nvidia drivers called?
[05:10] <sadistico> zyth: http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch13_:_Linux_Wireless_Networking#Using_bcm43xx-fwcutter_with_Broadcom_Wireless_Chips
[05:10] <pollywog> britt: either in ~/.xsession or .xinitrc
[05:10] <jumburrito> oh is this the equivilent of putting "nv" back in xorg.conf?
[05:10] <pollywog> britt: either in ~/.xsession or ~/.xinitrc
[05:11] <pollywog> depending on whether kde or gnome
[05:11] <sadistico> zyth: im thinking that if i could just copy that bcmwl5.sys file to the /lib/fIrmware folder it will work
[05:11] <shatrat> jumburrito, yeah, you could just do that if youre more comfortable with it
[05:11] <shatrat> jumburrito, thats how I do it in fact
[05:11] <jumburrito> yeah I've done it a few times recently =P
[05:11] <sadistico> anyone know how i can get access to my /lib/firware folder I mean to be able to copy files to it?
[05:11] <shatrat> jumburrito, well, once youve got an xorg.conf that you think looks good,, you can use the commadn "startx"
[05:12] <shatrat> !sudo|sadistico
[05:12] <ubotu> sadistico: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:12] <sadistico> eh?
[05:12] <pollywog> jumburrito: I thought you were using gdm
[05:12] <stochastic> hey room, does anyone know where the icon files in ubuntu's main menu are located?
[05:12] <sadistico> im trying to copy it in the browser
[05:12] <jumburrito> i don't know
[05:12] <jumburrito> i'm so new it hurts
[05:12] <sadistico> i dont know how to do it through the terminal
[05:12] <pollywog> if you are not using a session manager you use the startx command in a console
[05:13] <jumburrito> people keep shoving these words in my face and I don't know what all of them mean when I say them in IRC
[05:13] <shatrat> stochastic, I bet this is what youre looking for http://www.violet-rain.info/distributorlogo.html
[05:13] <pollywog> k
[05:13] <pollywog> you are really new then
[05:13] <jumburrito> yeah
[05:13] <pollywog> jumburrito: if you reboot the machine what do you see when the machine is done booting?
[05:14] <jumburrito> depends on what I have specified in the Device section of xorg.conf
[05:14] <pollywog> did you ever get a nice gui login?
[05:14] <jumburrito> if it says nv, I see my login gui
[05:14] <jumburrito> yes
[05:14] <jumburrito> and a loud sound
[05:14] <pollywog> k then you are using a session manager
[05:14] <jumburrito> okay
[05:15] <pollywog> otherwise you would just see a console and a prompt for your login
[05:15] <jumburrito> yes
[05:15] <jumburrito> I've seen that also
[05:15] <pollywog> but that is because your session manager is failing
[05:15] <pollywog> you should try the command shartrat gave
[05:15] <pollywog> to reconfigure the X server
[05:15] <stochastic> shatrat: I don't think that's what I was looking for, I'm trying to replace the icons next to Internet, Applications, etc... in the main menu
[05:16] <jumburrito> yeah I don't know what the hell I'm doing in this thing
[05:16] <shatrat> pollywog, I dont think so, I think at this point jumburrito needs to reinstall nvidia drivers now
[05:16] <shatrat> stochastic, ahh
[05:16] <pollywog> shatrat: k
[05:16] <stochastic> shatrat: see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=359280
[05:17] <bucketfan99> heya
[05:17] <bucketfan99> how do you go from 6.1 to testing/unstable ?
[05:17] <bucketfan99> whats the 'right' way
[05:17] <shatrat> stochastic, you can change those using the menu editor, just right click
[05:17] <pollywog> you mean to Debian?
[05:18] <pollywog> bucketfan99: you want to install Debian?
[05:18] <bucketfan99> no sorry
[05:18] <bucketfan99> i want the newest stuff
[05:18] <stochastic> shatrat: I'm trying to package an icon set so that others can install it in the themes menu
[05:18] <pollywog> oh
[05:18] <bucketfan99> i guess im using the wrong term.
[05:18] <jumburrito> kernel framebuffer or no?
[05:18] <Music_Shuffle> !feisty | bucketfan99
[05:18] <ubotu> bucketfan99: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help in #ubuntu+1
[05:18] <shatrat> bucketfan99, you dont.  I wouldnt recommend installing feisty as your main system, I would use it on a spare drive or partition.
[05:18] <pollywog> jumburrito: you are using a stock kernel right?
[05:18] <sadistico> zyth are you there?
[05:18] <bucketfan99> Ok.
[05:18] <bucketfan99> i won't
[05:18] <bucketfan99> perhaps im just confused
[05:18] <stochastic> shatrat: I need to find the location/name of the files but even the ones in the menu editor aren't right in some cases
[05:19] <elkbuntu> stochastic, try seeing if anyone is in #ubuntu-artwork, they might be able to help
[05:19] <bucketfan99> tahnks :)
[05:19] <jumburrito> afaik I think I updated it
[05:19] <stochastic> elkbuntu: thanks I'll try that
[05:19] <Balsamic_Chicken> anyone here play oblivion?
[05:19] <shatrat> stochastic, I bet theyre somewhere in /usr/share/icons
[05:19] <pollywog> jumburrito: uh oh
[05:19] <jumburrito> bad?
[05:19] <stochastic> shatrat: I've been searching in there
[05:19] <pollywog> that could be why you are having problems
[05:19] <pollywog>  you did a kernel compile?
[05:19] <shatrat> stochastic, mine are in /usr/share/icons/gnome/24x24
[05:19] <minerale> I just removed my ATI card and installed my nvidia card, my current xorg.conf specifies video driver "fglrx" --> what do I change that to for the nvidia driver ( I already installed the nvidia-glx package )
[05:19] <jumburrito> i think so =(
[05:20] <shatrat> stochastic, at least the accessories one is, thats the only one I checked
[05:20] <minerale> also: do I need to do any other changes, other than the nvidia thing
[05:20] <pollywog> jumburrito: not for beginners
[05:20] <shatrat> minerale, change it to "nv" until you have the nvidia binary driver instlaled.
[05:20] <pollywog> use a stock kernel until everything works
[05:20] <jumburrito> kind of like everything that ends in nix?
[05:20] <stochastic> shatrat: yeah, I've been able to switch most of them but the Internet is proving very elusive
[05:20] <shatrat> minerale, nv is the generic open source one, 2d only but it works.
[05:20] <pollywog> I guess that should have been my first question
[05:21] <jumburrito> well I'm not sure what I did but I remember that my GRUB menu changed
[05:21] <pollywog> I assumed you were using a stock kernel
[05:21] <killermach> ardchoille:  ok. I"m 2 for 2, dvdplayer says "no disc" , looking at the burn side of the disc it seems to have burned about the right amount
[05:21] <shatrat> stochastic, mine is in /usr/share/icons/gnome/24x24/categories
[05:21] <jumburrito> the numbers were different when I rebooted
[05:21] <donavan_> Noob here, I need to ask about installers?  what am I looking for as far as format goes.... trying to find video driver for my card and none of the nvidia drivers I downloaded seems to work... they keep griping about needing this or that
[05:21] <jumburrito> i think they said -11 or something at the end instead of the normal
[05:21] <stirner> salut
[05:21] <pollywog> jumburrito: you can do another thing
[05:21] <stochastic> shatrat: I've changed that file but it still loads up with the old icon
[05:21] <shatrat> !nvidia|donavan
[05:21] <ubotu> donavan: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:22] <shatrat> stochastic, why dont you just change the menu so it points to the icon you want?
[05:22] <pollywog> did you do the 'make-kpkg modules_image' command?
[05:22] <jumburrito> no I don't think I did
[05:22] <stochastic> shatrat: because I'm trying to get an icon theme set that others can install
[05:22] <bucketfan99> anyone know how to add the terminal icon to the right click menu ?
[05:22] <donavan_> Shatrat:yeah its a fx 5200 ... ubotu:thanks
[05:23] <stochastic> shatrat: if it was just for myself I'd simply point the menu to the right file but I need to follow standards
[05:23] <pollywog> well when you compile your own kernel you have to get the nvidia source package and install it and then you do that command after you compile the kernel proper
[05:23] <CageX-min> i couldn't get figure a way to make the Beryl work or even install i don't even know if its comes with the ubuntu
[05:23] <Art_> The other day I ran Ubuntu update.  It busted my WiFi.  Any ideas?
[05:23] <shatrat> stochastic, I understand, not sure why you would have trouble with that one in particular.
[05:23] <pollywog> I am new to Ubuntu so I am not sure how you should install a stock kernel now
[05:23] <minerale> I'm having trouble switching from the ati to the nvidia driver. I have uninstalled the xorg-driver-fglrx package ( it shows as rc on dpkg -l  ) but I can't install nvidia-glx because it clashes with the fglrx driver ... error is something like: /usr/lib/nvidia... clashes with `diversion of /usr/lib/libGL... by xorg-driver-fglrx"
[05:23] <minerale> what's that command that completely purges a package
[05:23] <jumburrito> shatrat: how do I unscrew myself?
[05:23] <pollywog> but you should either install clean or install a stock kernel
[05:24] <jumburrito> okay
[05:24] <pollywog> or just use nv drivers
[05:24] <jumburrito> i guess clean install wouldn't be such a bad thing
[05:24] <killermach> ardchoille: ok.. this is odd.. it plays in the dvdrw that burned it with gnomebaker, hmm
[05:24] <bimberi> minerale: sudo apt-get remove --purge package
[05:24] <shatrat> jumburrito, dont use "nv"  you either need to reinstall on your 2.6.17-11 kernel or jus tkeep using th eold one.
[05:24] <pollywog> jumburrito: are you gaming?
[05:24] <root___> I'm in kind of a spluge here. Can anyone help? I turned on my computer today and it crashes me to the command line after it fails to mount the drives. I'm using ultimate liveCD now, and I can't find any problems with the HDD or memory. Anyone know what could be wrong?
[05:24] <jumburrito> one day
[05:24] <pollywog> k
[05:24] <jumburrito> when the nvidia drivers work =)
[05:25] <shatrat> jumburrito, im not sure what the easiest way to fix the repo installed drivers is, because i instal manually, but i imagine there is somebody who does.
[05:25] <pollywog> shatrat: it appears he is using a custom kernel
[05:25] <Birdman> hi, could anyone help me out with installing ATI Radeon drivers?
[05:25] <shatrat> pollywog, I doubt it, he probably just updated to 2.6.17-11 in the past couple days
[05:25] <jumburrito> i installed the nvidia drivers on the machine I'm to talk, I did it the nvidia.com way
[05:25] <jumburrito> and it came out okay
[05:25] <jumburrito> yes
[05:25] <jumburrito> thats what I did
[05:25] <cyphase> anyone know how you append text to a file on the terminal? without opening an editor
[05:25] <CageX-min> anyone could help me with beryl??
[05:25] <jumburrito> it was like doing it for this computer on Fedora Core so I thought it would be safe
[05:26] <shatrat> jumburrito, aaah, if thats what you did then just go back to command line mode and run the "sudo sh NVIDIAblahblahblah.run" and thats it
[05:26] <killermach> ardchoille: no it only plays the dvd intro.. never shows the menu
[05:26] <jumburrito> seeing as this computer is running great and I got the install done
[05:26] <shatrat> jumburrito, it will recompile the thingy and "nvidia" will work again
[05:26] <fiberchunks> cyphase, cat "some text here" >> filename
[05:26] <pollywog> oh you can do it that way you don't have to do it the official way
[05:26] <cyphase> fiberchunks: didn't work..
[05:26] <jumburrito> okay let me get out of this xorg reconfig thing and see what I can do
[05:26] <cyphase> fiberchunks: but i think i got it
[05:26] <fiberchunks> ah
[05:26] <DLB|Maximus> what extra stuff do you get on the 6.10 dvd that makes it so much bigger than the cd?
[05:26] <yoink> excuse me people, i was wondering, can I change a fat32 partition to ext* using gparted without losing the data?
[05:27] <shatrat> yoink, I dont think theres any way but to back up the data somewhere else, format, and copy it back
[05:27] <pollywog> yoink: I wish
[05:27] <shatrat> yoink, there may be automated tools to do that though, I dont knokw
[05:27] <killermach> ardchoille: n/m totem wasn't, but kaffeine is
[05:27] <ardchoille> killermach: are sure you made the iso correctly?
[05:27] <ardchoille> killermach: Ah, ok
[05:27] <pollywog> but yeah I have done it by copying
[05:27] <fiberchunks> cyphase -- sorry wrong command (typo)  echo "this is some garbage" >> foo
[05:27] <yoink> ok, thanks...i guess ill just back up on a different partition
[05:27] <Birdman> could anyone help me access the Ubuntu superior user? i'm kinda used to having a root account available
[05:28] <Birdman> is there a sudo or something?
[05:28] <jumburrito> i don't want "dri" right?
[05:28] <leon> hello
[05:28] <shatrat> Birdman, you can use "sudo -i" to log in as root in a terminal, but I unrecommend it
[05:28] <Madpilot> ubotu, sudo | Birdman
[05:28] <ubotu> Birdman: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:28] <shatrat> !sudo|birdman
[05:28] <ubotu> birdman: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:28] <pollywog> jumburrito: if you are using nvidia, you do not want dri
[05:28] <jumburrito> any other modules I should leave out?
[05:28] <shatrat> jumburrito, no, you do want "dri"
[05:28] <pollywog> only dri comes to mind
[05:28] <killermach> ardchoille: I"m burning the same ISO on another machine right now and the checksums match to both copies, the other machine has produced 4 copies in the time I'm playing with this one
[05:29] <jumburrito> do or don't?
[05:29] <Birdman> great, i'll try that
[05:29] <Birdman> thanks a ton
[05:29] <pollywog> remove "load dri"
[05:29] <yellowdart> Birdman, if you want extended root access use sudo -i
[05:29] <ardchoille> killermach: hehe
[05:29] <cyphase> fiberchunks: how about appending the output from a command to a file, all on one command line
[05:29] <shatrat> jumbers, well, I think so. Maybe im thinking of fglrx
[05:29] <fiberchunks> cyphase, one sec