[00:28] <jnamdar> Hey everyone, is there anything planned to support adding DNF repositories from cloud-init config ? I saw in the doc there was a module to add YUM ones, but since RHEL 8 I think the default package manager is dnf.
[05:32] <holmanb> jnamdar: Just use the yum config module. It should work for dnf too.
[05:33] <holmanb> jnamdar: dnf still just uses repo files in /etc/yum.repos.d/, so unless they changed the format or something that module should continue to work
[05:42] <holmanb> I guess they left, but if anyone feels like verifying dnf support and updating docs to mention support, that would be a easy task for someone's first cloud-init contribution.
[05:43]  * holmanb looks forward to a future with github issues to categorize issues like this for new contributors
[15:37] <emma14> hi, I'm trying to use cloud-init to configure my kvm-based VM. I'm mounting an ISO with a `user-data.txt` file in it, and it doesn't appear to be getting picked up when the VM boots after running `virt-sysprep` against the VM's disk - any suggestions?
[15:57] <minimal> emma: did you also create a meta-data file in the ISO? it is required
[15:58] <minimal> emma14: https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/reference/datasources/nocloud.html#file-formats
[15:58] <minimal> "Both files must be present for it to be considered a valid seed ISO."
[15:58] <emma14> Ah, right on, will give that a try
[16:24] <emma14> Doesn't seem to actually run anything I've specified. I'm generating a file `seed.iso` containing 3 files: `meta-data`, `user-data`, `network-config` which is a valid netplan schema. Mounting it through virt-manager as `SATA CDROM 1` with raw storage format. In-between each attempt I'm running `cloud-init clean --logs` to reset the
[16:24] <emma14> `/var/lib/cloud/`-directory
[16:25] <emma14> If I mount the ISO and run `$ cloud-init schema --config-file /mnt/cidata/user-data` it says it's valid as well
[16:26] <minimal> nothing related appeared in /var/log/cloud-init.log?
[16:32] <emma14> Hmm, I don't see anything particularly relevant. E.g. I don't see any mention of my user-data script or
[16:32] <emma14> This is just ubuntu20.04 server
[16:38] <emma14> Checking this ~ https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/reference/faq.html#where-are-the-logs ~ looks like /run/cloud-init/status.json indicates that the datasource is DataSourceNone
[16:38] <emma14> Do I need to manually specify the datasource somewhere?
[16:39] <minimal> there is a default list, that basically includes all the DataSources, with 'None' as the last one
[16:39] <emma14> I see
[16:39] <minimal> unless a specific DS or list of DS has been set somehow in /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg or in /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/
[16:40] <minimal> look for a "datasource_list" entry
[16:41] <minimal> is the ISO labelled correctly?
[16:42] <zaphod_b> hiya lads; I'm trying to enable cloud-init on a regular ubuntu18 live-server image; my first attempts are failing, and I take it the presence of `/etc/cloud/cloud-init.disabled` is the culprit here
[16:42] <zaphod_b> so my question is, is there a way to override this with an option on the kernel command line for example ?
[16:43] <minimal> zaphod_b: why not use a Ubuntu cloud image?
[16:44] <zaphod_b> well this is for booting off metal; I had considered that at first, but could not find a way to get the hardware boot off any of the cloud images that I'd found
[16:44] <zaphod_b> but would love to learn otherwise :)
[16:44] <minimal> I *think* Live Server is using Subiquity
[16:45] <minimal> which then uses cloud-init
[16:45] <zaphod_b> well as far as I've understood, subiquity is a recent thing and probably was not yet around in 2018
[16:45] <zaphod_b> not quite sure about that
[16:45] <zaphod_b> how would subiquity be helpful ?
[16:46] <minimal> Ubuntu Server 18.04 uses Subiquity
[16:46] <emma14> > is the ISO labelled correctly? ~ from isoinfo - Volume id: cidata
[16:47] <minimal> well what I mean is that using Subquity (which uses cloud-init) is not exactly the same as using cloud-init "proper",
[16:47] <zaphod_b> yes indeed; the scripts have written so far work fine with u20.04 and u22.04
[16:48] <minimal> emma14: the DS selection doesn't show much, if anything, in cloud-init.log unless you enable debug, then it shows exactly what is going on
[16:48] <emma14> Ah that's super helpful
[16:48] <emma14> I'll try that
[16:48] <minimal> emma14: then it will log the list of DSes it will check, you should see it looking for a fs labelled cidata, etc
[16:51] <minimal> zaphod_b: my point was that Live Server appears to use Subiquity for installing. So are you trying to install Ubuntu?
[16:51] <emma14> Following this ~ https://gist.github.com/RagedUnicorn/a70f8540c68e0a41e3e097a2e29130f1#logs
[16:52] <zaphod_b> not installing, running live
[16:52] <zaphod_b> and using cloud-init for setting ssh keys
[16:53] <minimal> zaphod_b: I don't think Live Server is designed for that
[16:55] <zaphod_b> well, clearly not, but with a little help the 20 and 22 versions have been willing to comply ;-)
[16:55] <zaphod_b> plus, that's called liver server, right ?
[16:55] <zaphod_b> plus, that's called live server, right ?
[17:05] <minimal> but does the cloud-init services run in sequence when you boot Live Server?
[17:05] <minimal> I'd expect not and that subiquity would run instead
[17:05] <zaphod_b> with u20 and u22, yes
[17:06] <minimal> hmm? you said you have a cloud-init.disabled file so then how can the c-i services run?
[17:08] <minimal> emma14: that guide does not mention increasing loglevel, only moving where the logfile is placed
[17:08] <zaphod_b> that file is present on the u18 image only
[17:10] <minimal> zaphod_b: right, seems things were changed in Ubunto 20: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/cloud-init-and-the-live-server-installer/14597
[17:17] <zaphod_b> minimal: thanks, this is helpful
[17:18] <blackboxsw> zaphod_b: minimal right. Just a  drive by comment from me. The live server installer is subiquity-based for the installation dialogs etc. I just launched the bionic live server iso the installer. Ubuntu 18 was a special case that does disable cloud-init intentionally within the ephemeral/installed environment. What I think this means is that you won't be able to provide any custom cmdline options to 'enable' cloud-init because most of
[17:18] <blackboxsw> what I'd tell you would be something akin to ...
[17:20] <minimal> blackboxsw: yeah I wasn't sure what would happen if "cloud-init=enabled" was passed on cmdline
[17:20] <blackboxsw> manipulating the kernel params to send something like autoinstall ds=nocloud-net;s=http://SOME_IP:8000/'   where you host a user-data/meta-data file to remove said /etc/cloud/cloud-init.disabled file. But, chicken and egg problem here. cloud-init is disabled in this stage on bionic 18.04 so it doesn't receive those directies to override and remove the disable flag file
[17:20] <zaphod_b> yeah that's what I'm about to conclude too despite several attempts
[17:21] <blackboxsw> I recall that the live installer puts in layers of files in the ephemeral environment, I'll see if there is a kernel param switch that can be provided to disalllow disabling cloud-init (I think it unlikely but i'll poke around)
[17:22] <zaphod_b> blackboxsw: thank you that would be very helpful indeed
[17:24] <minimal> blackboxsw: isn't that the cmdline value I posted?
[17:24] <zaphod_b> I'm already messing with the grub options; I guess my next option along that pass would be to override the squashfs to remove the disabling file, but that's another step further and I was really hoping I would be able to avoid that...
[17:25] <minimal> zaphod_b: trying to install bare metal from a cloud/vm image would depend on whether that image happened to include drivers and firmware for your bare metal host's network, storage, etc devices
[17:26] <minimal> I'm not familiar with the Ubunut cloud images so not sure, but assume the NoCloud VM tailored images must have at least some physical devices drivers
[17:27] <zaphod_b> yes, and that's the reason why I'd discarded that idea at first as it does not souond quite right
[17:28] <emma14> Okay I think I may see why I wasn't getting the results I expected. When I ran `cloud-id` it said `none`, so I checked the contents of /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/* and sure enough, it specified `none`. Led me to this answer - https://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity/+bug/1958377/comments/11 - which led me to download a cloud image from -
[17:28] <emma14> https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/ - and now I'm seeing debuggable output in `/var/log/cloud-init-*` and `cloud-id` is showing nocloud. Makes sense
[17:28] -ubottu:#cloud-init- Launchpad bug 1958377 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "cloud-init does not apply network configuration from NoCloud resource" [High, Incomplete]
[17:40] <blackboxsw> minimal nice on `cloud-init=enabled` Yeah. zaphod_b minimal looks like providing the extended kernel params after --- cloud-init=enabled will enable cloud-init in BIonic's ephemeral boot stage I can see it camping out trying to discover a datasource in the KVM console
[17:40] <blackboxsw> s/camping out/spinning/
[17:41] <blackboxsw> this is with stock 18.04.6 bionic live server ISO
[17:48] <NightMonkey> Howdy. I'm having a heck of a time getting cloud-init clean to have its expected effect on Ubuntu 22.04. What is the proper way to prep a "golden image" template.
[17:48] <NightMonkey> ?
[17:48] <zaphod_b> blackboxsw: indeed, this is awesome !
[17:49] <zaphod_b> thank you blackboxsw minimal for all the help !
[17:49] <meena> NightMonkey: which of your expectations aren't met?
[17:51] <NightMonkey> meena: I would like cloud-init to run on the next boot after the os image is cloned.
[17:51] <jnamdar> Hi all, is there any doc to add dnf repositories ? I found the doc for yum repos, but those are outdated on Fedora/RHEL 8
[17:52] <meena> jnamdar: dnf uses rpm repositories, so the yum module should just work
[17:52] <NightMonkey> What I'm seeing, however, is that cloud-init doesnt even run.
[17:52] <meena> NightMonkey: anything in the logs as to why?
[17:52] <blackboxsw> NightMonkey `cloud-init status --long` may tell you what gives (also could check /run/cloud-init/ds-identify.log)
[17:52] <minimal> NightMonkey: which version of Ubuntu is this with? cloud image? Ubuntu server?
[17:53] <jnamdar> meena yeah but i'm afraid if the module writed in /etc/yum.repos.d/, the dnf command will probably not pick them up
[17:53] <jnamdar> writes*
[17:54] <blackboxsw> zaphod_b: just cofirmed I can run `python3 -m http.server 8000` with a directory containing `user-data` file with my #cloud-config and an empty meta-data  file and I can 'install ubuntu' on the live server 18.04 image passing the following kernel cmdline params:  `--- cloud-init=enabled ds=nocloud-net;s=http://_gateway:8000/' and it honors my #cloud-config
[17:54] <meena> try it out and tell us about it, if it doesn't work, we'll fix it
[17:55] <blackboxsw> zaphod_b: note as well that the #cloud-config user-data provided is manipulating the ephemeral boot stage, not the target system across reboot
[17:57] <zaphod_b> blackboxsw that's fine as I only intend to run in live mode, so not leaving the ephemeral boot stage
[17:59] <blackboxsw> zaphod_b:  For what it's worth we're working on getting a architecture diagram and examples together as this is a big pain point and confusion for lots of people (ephemeral interaction vs target system interaction) given that cloud-init is active in both boots
[18:05] <zaphod_b> indeed the whole business can be a headache ;-)
[18:08] <NightMonkey> meena: That's part of the problem. I see no logs from cloud-init.
[18:09] <meena> is it enabled? is logging enabled?
[18:09] <NightMonkey> In case it is a local misconfiguration, I'll ask this: does anyone here make golden images with Ubuntu 22.04 and see cloud-init run after running "cloud-init clean"? :)
[18:10] <NightMonkey> meena: I see it as a unit in systemd, but it is "inactive/dead".
[18:11] <NightMonkey> I also see a file in /etc/rsyslog.d/ that disables cloud-init logging, but I disabled that file. :/
[18:11] <blackboxsw> NightMonkey: yes, but what platform are you trying to launch that golden image in after creating it?    cloud-init status --long should tell you why cloud-init is disabled.
[18:12] <NightMonkey> @blackboxsw: Ah, I'll try that on Monday. Thank you.
[18:12] <blackboxsw> NightMonkey: +1 cloud-init status --long and read /run/cloud-init/ds-identify.log
[18:13] <blackboxsw>  ds-identify.log is the first entry point for cloud-init and decides whether the platform looks compatible with cloud-init
[18:13] <blackboxsw> ds-identify will deactivate all systemd units if it doesn't look like a viable datasource for cloud-init exists
[18:13] <blackboxsw> ok ... I really need to file my taxes. catch you all later. thanks!
[18:15] <NightMonkey> Oh, awesome, thanks a bunch!


[00:10] <rlaager> I'd imagine this is a FAQ, but my Googling isn't finding me anything that works. I'm switching from GNOME to XFCE, but I'd like to use nautilus instead of thunar as my file manager (because thunar doesn't respect .hidden files). I've changed it in the "Preferred Applications" section of the Settings Manager, but no luck.
[00:30] <ball> hello GridCube
[00:30] <GridCube> hi
[00:30] <GridCube> :)
[00:31] <GridCube> rlaager, what do you mean by "(because thunar doesn't respect .hidden files)"?
[00:32] <rlaager> GridCube: If you have a file named .hidden with a list of files/directories in it, Nautilus will hide those folders (in addition to the normal behavior of hiding files whose names start with "."). Thunar does not do that.
[00:33] <GridCube> rlaager, oh, i see
[00:33] <GridCube> never heard of that, sorry.
[00:34] <rlaager> It seems the issue is that Thunar is still managing my desktop. So when I click on a folder there, it opens within that Thunar process, even though my setting is to use Nautilus.
[00:34] <GridCube> you could simple purge thunar
[00:38] <rlaager> It seems that if I give up on the idea of a desktop and stick a launcher in my panel, I can get more-or-less what I want.
[00:40] <GridCube> what is that you want?
[00:41] <GridCube> oh, you want not using thunar as the default exo-open for directories
[00:43] <ball> I like Thunar, me.
[00:44] <GridCube> rlaager, you should edit it here: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturadepantalla-101112-214407.php
[00:46] <ball> I've just discovered "Emblems"
[00:47] <GridCube> haha, they been there since like forever, never found a reason to use them though
[00:48] <ball> I just put a "Music" emblem on my daughter's jTunes folder.
[01:12] <adnanh> ball, hahaha :)
[01:15] <adnanh> rlaager
[01:15] <adnanh> try adding FileManger=nautilus to the ~/.config/xfce4/helpers.rc file
[01:15] <adnanh> FileManager=
[01:15] <adnanh> do not copy that line, it's got a typo xD
[05:23] <xubuntu984> hi
[05:23] <xubuntu984> anybody active there?
[05:23] <xubuntu984> need some help regarding installation
[05:26] <xubuntu518> hey, anyone know how to re-enable hibernation?
[05:26] <raytray> xubuntu984, what about?
[05:27] <raytray> xubuntu518, settings->power manager not able to help you?
[05:27] <xubuntu984> well it is about the reinstall option im getting some errors
[05:27] <xubuntu518> i've got an old thinkpad r61 that hibernated fine in 12.04 and am willing to bet that hibernate will work fine
[05:27] <xubuntu518> hibernate is greyed out.
[05:27] <xubuntu518> *buntu 12.04 hibernation was disabled across the board, but could be re enabled
[05:28] <xubuntu518> the magic to get it working in 12.04 doesn't seem to work in 12.10
[05:28] <raytray> By magic, xubuntu518, do you mean http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-enable-hibernation ?
[05:29] <xubuntu984> im getting alot of ubiquity: warning: root:cant add "insert package name" (E: unable to correct  problems, you have held brocken packages)
[05:29] <xubuntu518> yes.
[05:29] <xubuntu518> thanks  btw raytray.
[05:29] <xubuntu984> sorry for typos
[05:30] <raytray> Sorry can't really help either of you in that case, perhaps someone more knowledgable will see it then.
[05:30] <xubuntu518> eh, looks like theres a fix on launchpad, brb
[05:30] <xubuntu984> i just wanna know if the reinstall option has trouble in generally or not
[05:30] <raytray> I do not believe it does. How are you trying to reinstall btw?
[05:31] <xubuntu984> from the downloaded iso wich i burned on a cd
[05:32] <xubuntu984> i just thought it might have some known issues
[05:33] <xubuntu270> back oops pushed the wrog button
[05:36] <xubuntu270> so im waiting now actually and will see what will happen, but itkeeps telling me
[05:37] <xubuntu270> about 10 mins restoring previously installed packages
[05:37] <xubuntu518> raytray that link did, work.  Either i missed something in the copy&paste or the config file needed a hard return at the EOF.
[05:37] <xubuntu518> thanks!
[05:42] <raytray> xubuntu270, if you get to a stage where you are able to login, I woudl suggest running the command sudo apt-get install -f
[07:25] <abnormalcy> hi, im trying to run xubuntu from my laptop but cant seem to see the load screen until after gui is started
[07:26] <abnormalcy> can someone help me type blind, i just want to run with toram option
[07:26] <abnormalcy> i thought it used to be f6 to enter boot options, then hit [end] to begin typing at end of kernel boot line, but i cant seem to get it working now
[07:27] <abnormalcy> load screen just not working with my laptops display modes at all
[08:32] <Guest33671> how to know what's using a certain port number?
[08:36] <Guest33671> deebo, how to know what's using a certain port number?
[08:37] <deebo> netstat
[08:46] <Guest33671>  I can't run a web project from Eclipse.
[08:46] <Guest33671> I get that error
[08:46] <Guest33671> Several ports (8005, 8009) required by Tomcat v7.0 Server at localhost are already in use. The server may already be running in another process, or a system process may be using the port. To start this server you will need to stop the other process or change the port number(s).
[08:46] <Guest33671> I changed 8080 to 8181
[08:46] <Guest33671> but still getting the error for 8005 and 8009
[09:12] <adnanh> Guest15310, try netstat -la |grep 8005
[09:12] <adnanh> and netstat -la |grep 8009
[09:14] <chris_> Hi guys, can someone tell me how to remove only one package from the system, not all included in xubuntu-desktop? I think it's something related with meta packages but can't understant it. Where I can find the meta package for Xubuntu and remove it? Thanks in advance :]
[09:18] <Guest15310> adnanh, "tcp6       0      0 localhost:8005          [::]:*                  LISTEN "  showed up. What does it mean?
[09:18] <adnanh> well it means something is listening on it haha
[09:19] <adnanh> ok now
[09:19] <adnanh> try netstat -tulpn |grep 8005
[09:19] <adnanh> and copy me output
[09:21] <adnanh> if it gives you error try sudo netstat -tulpn |grep 8005
[09:22] <adnanh> Guest15310 :)
[09:24] <adnanh> chris_ which package are you trying to remove
[09:46] <adnanh> Guest15310 are you still here?
[10:06] <lancest> Looking for keyboard help enabling sound, fwd etc
[10:24] <c2tarun> is there anyway of splitting thunar in two different destinations so I can copy from one place to other easily?
[10:25] <knome> c2tarun, open a new window
[10:25] <c2tarun> knome, :(
[10:26] <c2tarun> the only thing I missed in xubuntu is file browser is little less in features (very fast though but little less)
[10:26] <c2tarun> knome, can you suggest me some light and fast file browser with splitting feature?
[10:27] <c2tarun> and is there any way of making it default?
[10:28] <knome> i suppose pcmanfm. and apps menu -> (settings ->) settings manager -> preferred applications -> tab utilities
[10:29] <c2tarun> knome, great :) thanks a lot
[10:33] <lancest> Howto get keyboard (volume,fwd,stop,etc) working for sound indicator & Gmusicbrowser anyone?
[10:48] <c2tarun> lancest, go to settings editor
[10:50] <c2tarun> lancest, then in xfce4-mixer change the value of active card to PlaybackBuiltinAudioAnalogStereoPulseAudioMixer
[10:50] <c2tarun> lancest, as soon as you'll save it your sound driver might crash, reboot your machine then it'll work
[10:51] <c2tarun> lancest, please let me know if it does.
[10:54] <baizon> for me that worked: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1350255/
[10:56] <adnanh> c2tarun, you could try tux commander if you want something like midnight commander :)
[10:56] <baizon> i recommend double commander
[10:57] <adnanh> :)
[10:57] <baizon> using it by myself
[10:58] <lancest> Ok gonna try
[10:58] <xubuntu154> hi all
[10:59] <tomatopotato> is there a way to make a radeon x1950 pro 256mb work with xubuntu+ acceleration
[10:59] <baizon> !hi | tomatopotato
[11:00] <adnanh> tomatopotato, what version of xubuntu do you have?
[11:01] <tomatopotato> 12.10
[11:01] <tomatopotato> i did all the updates first
[11:02] <baizon> tomatopotato: kernel 3.7 got a nice boost for ati
[11:02] <tomatopotato> when i install for example mesa tools and check glxinfo it says dri enabled but, when i try for example a 3d accelerated game it shows nothing, also glxgears does not show anything
[11:03] <adnanh> hmm did you try installing catalyst drivers from amd
[11:03] <tomatopotato> 3.7 ? is it in the ubuntu software center available or would ihave to compile it bymyself?
[11:04] <tomatopotato>  yes adnanh, i tryed those from the website downloaded it and tryed to install but the install fails
[11:04] <adnanh> what does the fail message say
[11:04] <baizon> tomatopotato: you would have to wait until ubuntu 13.04
[11:05] <tomatopotato> something about it cant extract th file
[11:05] <tomatopotato> thx baizon, whats the schedule for 13.04? is it april?
[11:06] <baizon> yes
[11:06] <adnanh> you tried these drivers? http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[11:07] <adnanh> oops
[11:07] <adnanh> meant these http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[11:07] <tomatopotato> yes exatly that one
[11:07] <tomatopotato> sorry for typos
[11:08] <tomatopotato> i tried also to download it a few times couse i thought the file might be damadged
[11:08] <adnanh> how did you try to install it
[11:08] <adnanh> did you run it as normal user or super user
[11:08] <baizon> amd doesnt support older graphic cards
[11:09] <tomatopotato> and when i install the drivers from the ubuntu software center, after restart the system wont boot into xface
[11:09] <baizon> i mean the legacy one
[11:09] <tomatopotato> adnanh i triedboth, the same problem happens
[11:10] <adnanh> ok, try checking this guide out http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Quantal_Installation_Guide
[11:10] <adnanh> make sure to check is your card supported
[11:10] <adnanh> and what can you do if it's not
[11:11] <tomatopotato> thnx ill take a look
[11:12] <tomatopotato> btw i tried also that xorg edger method
[11:13] <adnanh> I think your gfx is probably not supported by proprietary driver (mine was on 12.04 but in 12.10 is not anymore xD)
[11:13] <adnanh> but the opensource driver is still better than nothing
[11:13] <tomatopotato> i wonder why they drop support for older gfx cards
[11:14] <adnanh> well they say they want to focus on new stuff rather than legacy
[11:14] <adnanh> I just say they want us to buy new gfxes :P
[11:14] <tomatopotato> i completely agree
[11:14] <tomatopotato> what is the problem with my old card anyway?
[11:15] <adnanh> it's not getting them any new money :P
[11:15] <adnanh> I have to go now
[11:15] <adnanh> good luck with that
[11:15] <tomatopotato> thx alot,
[11:20] <c2tarun> when I installed krusader I got message of 60MB will be downloaded and 205 MB will be used. When I am doing 'sudo apt-get remove --purge krusader' I am getting that only 11.7MB will be freed, why?
[11:21] <tomatopotato> i guess it is not removing the dependencies
[11:22] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, so after purging I should run sudo apt-get autoremove and then it'll free 205MB's?
[11:23] <tomatopotato> i guess it depends
[11:23] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, yup :) it worked thanks
[11:23] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, depends on what?
[11:23] <tomatopotato> if the packages are used for other applicationsthen they will not be removed
[11:23] <c2tarun> yeah
[11:24] <baizon> c2tarun: all Qt dependencies will stay
[11:24] <baizon> i mean not all but some of them
[11:25] <c2tarun> baizon, yup, but most of them are removed, I got message of 214 MBs will be free
[11:25] <baizon> nice
[11:26] <tomatopotato> btw. is there a way to extrakt the .ron file from the ati catalyst file on the website?
[11:26] <tomatopotato> oops mean .run
[11:27] <tomatopotato> c2tarun did you run the autoremove?
[11:27] <baizon> tomatopotato: yes make it runable and run
[11:28] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, yeah just did few minutes back. it worked
[11:28] <tomatopotato> yes but the script seems not to be able to exectute correctly under xubuntu 12.10
[11:29] <tomatopotato> c2tarun, so... problem solved?
[11:29] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, yup :)
[11:29] <tomatopotato> se you solved it by yourself :)
[11:29] <c2tarun> nope, I asked you few minutes back and you told. you just forgot ;)
[11:30] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, ^^
[11:30] <tomatopotato> but you said to exectute autoremove
[11:30] <tomatopotato> anyway im glad its solved lol
[11:30] <c2tarun> :)
[11:34] <tomatopotato> is there a way to edit a .run file?
[11:35] <tomatopotato> it seems like there is a path problem and thats why it will not extract on xubuntu 12.10
[11:35] <knome> if it's a text-file, then just open it in any text editor
[11:35] <knome> if it's binary, no, you can't edit it
[11:35] <tomatopotato> its a binary
[11:36] <tomatopotato> im talking about the ati driver from the official amd website
[11:36] <knome> you can't edit it.
[11:36] <tomatopotato>  can i extract the .run file?
[11:37] <tomatopotato> i mean in a different way
[11:37] <knome> read the instructions from ati site, but i believe not.
[11:39] <tomatopotato> this is the error msg i get when i try to execute it
[11:39] <knome> if it's multiline, use !pastebin
[11:39] <knome> !pastebin | tomatopotato
[11:40] <tomatopotato> http://pastebin.com/kSSBCyyv here the error
[11:40] <c2tarun> is installing heavy applications like, digikam/GwenView/Krusader going to affect startup time of xubuntu? (none of them are in list of startup applications)
[11:41] <tomatopotato> c2tarun, i think it should not affect it, but i might be wrong
[11:42] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, hmm... I thought same. Can anyone else confirm?
[11:42] <tomatopotato> i guess it depends if thy need some additional services
[11:43] <c2tarun> I really love the way in which xubuntu starts in figuratively no time. I dont want to slow it, but ristretto is not that good, I am trying GwenView (few months back when I was using Kubuntu, this worked great)
[11:44] <knome> c2tarun, only the application startup time should be longer, except if the applications make the system load something on boot
[11:45] <c2tarun> there is also one more thing Xubuntu need to fix :( I installed GwenView and its neither in Graphics nor in Applications
[11:45] <c2tarun> Accessories**
[11:46] <TheSheep> !bugs | c2tarun
[11:47] <c2tarun> TheSheep, thanks :) I'll surely do it.
[11:47] <tomatopotato> c2tarun, you can fix that  manually
[11:48] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, yeah I can and I'll surely do :) but this feature worked for other apps like clementine and deluge and chromium
[11:49] <tomatopotato> i guess it depends on the package if the entry is correct
[11:49] <tomatopotato> then again some ppl might see gwenview as an acsessory
[11:50] <c2tarun> yeah, it is little bit confusing so I looked at both places :)
[11:50] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, do you know from where can I edit that menu to put GwenView at right place?
[11:52] <tomatopotato> i guess you could always do it with the terminal go to /usr/share/acsessories and move the application to te menu you would like to
[11:53] <tomatopotato> or is it ~/Applications/acsessorie?
[11:53] <tomatopotato> or is it ~/Applications/acsessories?
[11:54] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, I couldn't find accessories anywhere :(
[11:55] <tomatopotato> hrmm
[11:55] <c2tarun> let me google it
[11:55] <tomatopotato> might have an other name or might be a file with the path entered
[11:56] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, yup got that :) http://en.kioskea.net/faq/3499-xubuntu-modifying-the-applications-menu#modifying-the-menu
[11:57] <tomatopotato> ah just find the file (xxx.desktop) in applications an then edit it with vi or whatever you like
[11:58] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, I dont know which file I am looking for :( that gxine.desktop file is not there.
[11:59] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, do I have to create on .desktop file for gwenview?
[11:59] <tomatopotato> if its not in there, then yes
[11:59]  * c2tarun trying
[12:00] <tomatopotato> you can just take the .desktop file from a different application, duplicate and rename it and then edit
[12:03] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, Yup I copied file for ristretto
[12:03] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, it worked :)
[12:03] <c2tarun> thanks
[12:03] <tomatopotato> yw
[12:03] <tomatopotato> in the meanwhile i managed to extract the binary .run file
[12:04] <tomatopotato> so any idea how i would aproach to install the driver manually?
[12:07] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, what driver are you trying to install?
[12:07] <tomatopotato> im trying to make my x1950 to run with dri 3d acceleration
[12:07] <tomatopotato> radeon PCIe gfx
[12:08] <tomatopotato> the interesting thin is, since they started to try and automate many things in linux, things started to break down on many distros,
[12:09] <tomatopotato> also xorg was way easier to configure 7 years ago, well at least for me lol
[12:11] <tomatopotato> is there anything else i could help maybe with c2tarun?
[12:13] <c2tarun> tomatopotato, nope it worked fine :) thanks
[12:14] <tomatopotato> gich
[12:18] <tomatopotato> btw is there a way to remove nepomuk compeletely without breaking anything?
[12:18] <JMS32> Hello.  How to load kernel module with parameters in every boot?
[12:19] <tomatopotato> make a script
[12:19] <JMS32> tomatopotato, And where it must be for correct working?
[12:20] <JMS32> (i'm need sudo rmmod, sudo modprobe inside)
[12:20] <tomatopotato> depends on when it should be executed
[12:21] <tomatopotato> you must see in wich runlevel usually you would need this
[12:21] <JMS32> Early is better
[12:21] <tomatopotato> you must see when the dependencies are loaded (if any)
[12:22] <tomatopotato> but maybe there is a different approach
[12:22] <tomatopotato> i might be wrong all along
[12:22] <JMS32> Hm.... How to see this?
[12:23] <tomatopotato> what do you want to do
[12:23] <tomatopotato> maybe its easier if i understan what you want to achive
[12:23] <JMS32> tomatopotato, i'm just need to reload saa7134 module with correct parameters, becouse without it my device not working correctly
[12:24] <tomatopotato> what is that device
[12:25] <JMS32> tomatopotato, cctv card
[12:25] <tomatopotato> got it its a tv tuner
[12:25] <JMS32> yes
[12:25] <JMS32> like tv tuner, but a lot of inputs
[12:25] <tomatopotato> well can you execute the parameters after boot?
[12:27] <tomatopotato> how do you di it currently?
[12:27] <JMS32> I can execute "sudo rmmod saa7134 && sudo modprobe -v saa7134 card=177" after boot and card will work
[12:27] <tomatopotato> well then you have just to make a script and put it in the right place
[12:27] <JMS32> I'm writes this in console
[12:28] <JMS32> Where i must put it?
[12:28] <tomatopotato> usually in /etc/rc.d
[12:29] <JMS32> tomatopotato, thanks. I will try right now
[12:30] <JMS32> My /etc/rc.d is empty. Is it ok?
[12:30] <tomatopotato> shouldnt be a problem
[12:30] <tomatopotato> or
[12:31] <tomatopotato> you could install webmin and do it trough webmin
[12:31] <JMS32> ok. I'm must write command with sudo or without it?
[12:31] <tomatopotato> i think it has an easy to use interface
[12:31] <JMS32> ok. I will install webmin
[12:31] <JMS32> (already using it on other server)
[12:32] <tomatopotato> you must write the file as su
[12:32] <tomatopotato> the owner must be root
[12:35] <JMS32> 10 minutes for downloadinf webmin. Nice
[12:36] <knome> tomatopotato, JMS32: please use sudo, not su.
[12:37] <tomatopotato> i will knome, can you please explain me the difference?, beside that i can messup if im loged in as su
[12:37] <tomatopotato> i mean, is it a security risk?
[12:38] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: traditionally, it is considered a security risk
[12:38] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: top that off with some people running random commands as root, per suggestions from irc
[12:39] <tomatopotato> but isnt the SU by default active?
[12:39] <knome> tomatopotato, there is no root user in ubuntu
[12:40] <tomatopotato> sure np,  i meant to write sudo but my fingerswere lazy
[12:41] <tomatopotato> im sorry for the inquiery, but what do you mean that there is no root user in kubuntu?
[12:41] <nyRednek> question, i installed irssi-otr...which script is that to load?
[12:42] <tomatopotato> what do you mean nyrednek?
[12:42] <JMS32> tomatopotato, ok. I'm havewebmin. Where to put my commands?
[12:43] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: well, i use bitlbee for instant messaging
[12:43] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: and i installed otr plugins(off the record)
[12:43] <nyRednek> i want to use them, but /script load otr doesn't exactly work
[12:43] <tomatopotato> jms32 there is somewhere an option called startupscripts you can paste you sript there
[12:44] <JMS32> upstart?
[12:45] <tomatopotato> startup
[12:45] <tomatopotato> nyrednek irssi-otr is something like a irc client?
[12:46] <nyRednek> nevermind
[12:46] <nyRednek> well, irssi is an irc client
[12:46] <nyRednek> otr is a plugin
[12:47] <tomatopotato> what do you want to do exatly?
[12:47] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: did you really just ask that question? how long have you been using linux?
[12:47] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: also, i said nevermind
[12:47] <tomatopotato> not so long about 10-11 years, but i never used irc
[12:48] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: so you used linux for 10-11 years and never felt the need to use irc to socialize, collaborate, etc?
[12:49] <tomatopotato> what syould i say.. im not a that social person
[12:49] <nyRednek> i find that hard to believe
[12:49] <tomatopotato> syould=should
[12:50] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: www.irssi.org
[12:51] <tomatopotato> im more the msg board person
[12:54] <tomatopotato> JMS32 you there yet?
[12:54] <JMS32> I'm here
[12:55] <tomatopotato> i might be wroung tough with my aproach, maybe somebody else knows a beter solution
[12:55] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: yeah, i still find it hard to believe...irc a part of linux culture
[12:55] <JMS32> tomatopotato, in first look it works, now i'm checking it with cctv system. It takes a long of time, becouse very slow internet
[12:55] <tomatopotato> it does not matter nyrednek
[12:56] <tomatopotato> besides i never said im a very good expierienced used lol
[12:57] <tomatopotato> in fact i need help myseflf with the ati radeon x1950 driver
[12:57] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: screen lock?
[12:58] <tomatopotato> ati radeon x1950 pro
[12:58] <tomatopotato> nope
[12:58] <tomatopotato> cant get hardware aceleration t work
[12:58] <JMS32> tomatopotato, Thanks you very much anyway. You helped me with bootup script
[12:58] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: oh, hardware acceleration with ati is hit and miss
[12:58] <tomatopotato> im glad it worked out jms32
[12:59] <tomatopotato> i figured that much
[12:59] <tomatopotato> lol
[12:59] <tomatopotato> brb
[13:01] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: not dismissing you, just sharing that no matter what you do, it may not work
[13:03] <tomatopotato> sorry i dont understand what do you mean with not dismissing
[13:04] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: in other words, i'm not stating that the issue isn't valid
[13:04] <tomatopotato> ah ic
[13:05] <tomatopotato> so how would i approach the problem?
[13:06] <JMS32> Heh. CCTV system not working in 12.10, but working in 12.04. Fine)
[13:07] <tomatopotato> any errors?
[13:08] <JMS32> tomatopotato, i don't know. I don't know where to find logs :)
[13:08] <tomatopotato> wmesg
[13:08] <tomatopotato> dmesg
[13:08] <JMS32> Tech support not answered yet
[13:09] <JMS32> tomatopotato, already saw. Looks clear
[13:09] <JMS32> tomatopotato, I'm speaking about programm for monitoring, not device. Device is working fine in all linux system :)
[13:10] <tomatopotato> so this could be application related
[13:10] <tomatopotato> is there any debug mode (option) for the application
[13:11] <JMS32> tomatopotato, no. It's very strange application, but very good for cheap CCTV
[13:11] <JMS32> tomatopotato, no documentation at all
[13:11] <JMS32> ivideon
[13:12] <tomatopotato> what does the application do when you try to run it?
[13:12] <JMS32> I m not starting it. It starts on boot
[13:12] <tomatopotato> there might be some open soucrce alternative
[13:12] <JMS32> And i have acces only via localhost website
[13:13] <tomatopotato> maybe if i would understand how the application works
[13:13] <JMS32> tomatopotato, yes... But for a;ternative i must have VPN server for access monitoring remotely
[13:13] <tomatopotato> i mean what it does and how you use it what you want to do
[13:13] <JMS32> tomatopotato, ivideon.ru
[13:14] <JMS32> tomatopotato, http://ivideon.com/ is english
[13:14] <Guest48133> hi guys
[13:14] <JMS32> Guest48133, hi
[13:15] <tomatopotato> jms32 so localy it works?
[13:15] <tomatopotato> hi guest
[13:15] <JMS32> tomatopotato, can't understand
[13:15] <JMS32> tomatopotato, it works on 12.04
[13:15] <Guest48133> I got some problems with flashplayer in Firefox, someone can help me?
[13:15] <nyRednek> Guest48133: what problems?
[13:15] <tomatopotato> i mean you would like to use and acsess the video feeds remotely. right?
[13:15] <JMS32> tomatopotato, in 12.10 localhost website writes an error
[13:16] <JMS32> tomatopotato, yes
[13:16] <tomatopotato> whats the problem guest?
[13:16] <Guest48133> it doesn't work
[13:16] <nyRednek> Guest48133: did you install flash in the first place?
[13:16] <tomatopotato> is flash properly installed?
[13:17] <nyRednek> Guest48133: and if you installed it, did you restart your browser?
[13:17] <Guest48133> yes it is
[13:17] <Guest48133> yes i resterted firefox
[13:17] <tomatopotato> is there any error message?
[13:18] <Guest48133> no one... it just doesn't work
[13:18] <nyRednek> Guest48133: in firefox, go to the site about:plugins
[13:18] <nyRednek> Guest48133: tell me if there is a line regarding flash
[13:18] <tomatopotato>  btw jms32 are the web services started for that aplication? )deamon)?
[13:18] <Guest48133> ok just a second
[13:19] <JMS32> tomatopotato, looks like yes
[13:19] <tomatopotato> is the port open jms32?
[13:19] <Guest48133> application/x-shockwave-flash 	Shockwave Flash 	swf
[13:19] <Guest48133> application/futuresplash 	FutureSplash Player 	spl
[13:20] <nyRednek> Guest48133: now try to access youtube
[13:20] <JMS32> tomatopotato, 80 port is open
[13:20] <Guest48133> ok
[13:20] <JMS32> tomatopotato, and i can access it. Othe ports is not requested
[13:20] <Guest48133>  nyRednek it doesn't work yet
[13:20] <JMS32> tomatopotato, it uses apache webserver
[13:20] <Guest48133> i can't see videos
[13:21] <JMS32> tomatopotato, and PHP for controlling as i'm know
[13:21] <tomatopotato> so when you try to connect what error msg do ou get?
[13:21] <nyRednek> Guest48133: try to remove and reinstall flash
[13:22] <JMS32> tomatopotato, me? Page is loaded and i can see "Внутренняя ошибка" (rus. Internal error)
[13:22] <JMS32> Nothing more
[13:22] <Guest48133> nyRednek: in wich way should i do that
[13:22] <nyRednek> Guest48133: with synaptic
[13:22] <Guest48133> by synatpic or by the official site
[13:22] <JMS32> I'm used php debugger. Looks like someting goes wrong with php-cli and accessing it
[13:22] <Guest48133> oh ok
[13:22] <tomatopotato> d try to accsess via LAN or WAN?
[13:23] <JMS32> tomatopotato, no difference
[13:23] <tomatopotato> the only explenation i would have is, the deamon is not running, or some services are not started or missing
[13:24] <JMS32> maybe yes maybe no...
[13:24] <tomatopotato> or maybe the installtion is not done properly?
[13:25] <JMS32> tomatopotato, installation is via apt-get. And all looks fine
[13:25] <tomatopotato> or its blocked? you said locally it works, but you cant accsess from a different computer, could be a firewall problem
[13:27] <Guest48133> nyRednek: done, but it still doesn't work
[13:27] <nyRednek> Guest48133: don't know what to tell you...
[13:27] <Guest48133> lol
[13:28] <Guest48133> ok mate, don't worry, thanks :)
[13:29] <tomatopotato> guest, did you try chrome?
[13:29] <Guest48133> Nope
[13:29] <Guest48133> tomatopotato: but i want to use firefox :P
[13:29] <tomatopotato> if it doesnt work with chrome, then you migt have a different problem
[13:29] <Guest48133> tomatopotato: ok, i will try then
[13:30] <Guest48133> sorry for my bad english guys, but i'm italian :P
[13:31] <tomatopotato> dont worry, im not perfect either lol
[13:31] <Guest48133> hahahah XD
[13:33] <JMS323> and i'm russian)
[13:33]  * not_found lurks the xubuntu channel...
[13:33] <tomatopotato> wb jms32
[13:34] <tomatopotato> you got my last msg?
[13:34] <JMS323> wb?
[13:34] <JMS323> no
[13:34] <JMS323> internet problems
 or maybe the installtion is not done properly?
[13:35] <tomatopotato> or its blocked? you said locally it works, but you cant accsess from a different computer, could be a firewall problem
 tomatopotato, installation is via apt-get. And all looks fine
[13:35] <JMS323> * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer).
[13:36] <tomatopotato> any result, guest?
[13:36] <Guest48133> tomatopotato: uhm, it doesn't work in chrome
[13:37] <JMS323> tomatopotato, i can access it from any place
[13:37] <JMS323> tomatopotato, but in weites internal error
[13:37] <tomatopotato> are the scripts in /www?
[13:38] <Guest48133> tomatopotato: i give up, im tiret to fight with flash lol
[13:38] <JMS323> tomatopotato, yes
[13:38] <tomatopotato> lol guest
[13:38] <JMS323> tomatopotato, not really in /www, but some simlinks
[13:38] <tomatopotato> did you check the permissions jms3?
[13:38] <JMS323> tomatopotato, but it works with apache webserver
[13:38] <JMS323> tomatopotato, yes. all is ok
[13:39] <JMS323> even tryed chmod 777
[13:39] <tomatopotato> i mean permissions of the html files
[13:39] <tomatopotato> is apache running?
[13:39] <JMS323> tomatopotato, all is ok with webserver
[13:39] <tomatopotato> put a text test file
[13:40] <JMS323> tomatopotato, but why? Php scripts are working ok
[13:40] <tomatopotato> so you can accsess other things via web server but not that thing
[13:40] <tomatopotato> maybe i misunderstand you
[13:40] <JMS323> tomatopotato, this error is a result of PHP exceptionin code
[13:41] <JMS323> tomatopotato, http://cs419619.userapi.com/v419619199/69d/Sq9RH4O9AiQ.jpg
[13:41] <JMS323> screenshot
[13:41] <tomatopotato> you got php installed correctly?
[13:41] <JMS323> i'm getting this. (rus. internal error)
[13:41] <JMS323> tomatopotato, yes
[13:42] <tomatopotato> the scripts permissions are ok?
[13:42] <JMS323> tomatopotato, yes
[13:42] <tomatopotato> is there a config file?
[13:42] <tomatopotato> maybe you must run the config script first
[13:42] <JMS323> tomatopotato, no
[13:43] <JMS323> tomatopotato, config is inside page, but it is no accesible becouse error :)
[13:43] <tomatopotato> what is the config files name?
[13:43] <JMS323> tomatopotato, no name. Mysql database
[13:44] <tomatopotato> aha...
[13:44] <JMS323> tomatopotato, it haves only cctv-releated parameters
[13:44] <tomatopotato> is mysql up and running?
[13:44] <JMS323> tomatopotato, yes of cource :)
[13:44] <JMS323> tomatopotato, looks strange, right?
[13:45] <tomatopotato> tell me whats in in the /ww folder
[13:45] <tomatopotato> tell me whats in in the /www folder
[13:45] <tomatopotato> how many files what are the file names
[13:45] <JMS323> tomatopotato, all is working on 12.04 (now)
[13:45] <Guest15310> How to deal with .jar files?
[13:45] <JMS323> tomatopotato,  5 sec
[13:46] <unrar> wohai
[13:46] <JMS323> tomatopotato, nothing becouse it uses apache config to use other directory
[13:46] <tomatopotato> you need java guest
[13:47] <tomatopotato> huh?
[13:47] <tomatopotato> i dont get it
[13:47] <Guest15310> I have java installed.
[13:47] <tomatopotato> where are the config files then located?
[13:47] <tomatopotato> i mean that webinterface
[13:47] <Guest15310> guess /usr/lib/jvm/
[13:47] <Guest15310> what web interface?
[13:48] <tomatopotato> sorry that was for jms
[13:48] <JMS323> tomatopotato, /opt/ivideon/ivideon-server-webui/www
[13:49] <tomatopotato> ok is then apache path correctly linked to that path?
[13:49] <JMS323> yes. And files inside works
[13:49] <JMS323> tomatopotato, but makes strange exception inside
[13:50] <tomatopotato> what kinda?
[13:56] <c2tarun> Thunar doesn't display folder size in size column. :( why so? it displays 4KB everywhere
[13:57] <TheSheep> c2tarun: that's the size of a single directory entry on your filesystem
[13:58] <TheSheep> c2tarun: if you want to see the size of everything inside, either look into properties, or use somehting like baobab
[13:59] <c2tarun> TheSheep, there is no way I can get everything displayed in the column?
[14:01] <JMS323> oh. disconected again
[14:02] <JMS323> tomatopotato, i'm must to go. Thanksfor trying to help me
[14:02] <TheSheep> c2tarun: no, that would be too slow
[14:03] <c2tarun> TheSheep, hmm... you are right, thanks :)
[14:09] <milo64> hi
[14:09] <milo64> You disabled the shortcut for CTRL+F11, CTRL+F12... I need to increase CPU cycles, but I can't
[14:10] <milo64> you = xubuntu
[14:10] <milo64> they don't work
[14:10] <milo64> they must've been taken by sys
[14:15] <nicklasbo> Hi all. After installing Xubuntu 12.10 on my laptop, sound from the speakers doesn't work. It worked in 12.04. I have tried settings the correct outputs in Sound Settings and double checked in alsamixer that they are not muted. Sound from headphones works fine. I have tried the Ubuntu Sound Troubleshooting guide. Where do I continue?
[14:15] <c2tarun> nicklasbo, is xubuntu is the first ubuntu distro you tried?
[14:17] <nicklasbo> c2tarun: On this specific laptop yes
[14:17] <milo64> hey
[14:17] <milo64> :(
[14:23] <Luciferis> hello, i installed xubuntu alongside with ubuntu and Ubuntu studio on partitions, but, xubuntu doesnt appear on my boot options. What can i do?
[14:27] <tomatopotato> you could configure grub to have an option to choose what system to start from
[14:29] <Luciferis> Well, normally i have the option to boot from the two first ones, the one i want, but i suppose this Xubuntu should appear too. Anyhow, how do i configure grub?
[14:31] <tomatopotato> maybe this will help http://syrlug.org/contrib/grublinux.html
[14:33] <tomatopotato> or maybe this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[14:36] <tomatopotato> nicklasbo what is your soundcard
[14:37] <tomatopotato> i mean what chipset
[14:37] <nicklasbo> Its a HDA Intel card with a VIA VT1828S chip
[14:38] <tomatopotato> does the system load the driver?
[14:38] <nicklasbo> How to check?
[14:39] <nicklasbo> I guess it does as sound through headphones work.
[14:40] <tomatopotato> aha ok
[14:40] <tomatopotato> so that might be something small actually, not much of a trouble i guess as it might be settings related
[14:41] <tomatopotato> did you try all the mixer settings
[14:41] <tomatopotato> the extended settings?
[14:41] <tomatopotato> sorry brb, have to eat
[14:42] <nicklasbo> Maybe not, will try further investigate :)
[14:44] <nicklasbo> I have played with all the settings in alsamixer and in "Volume Control" accessible through the volume panel settings. Are there more audio settings relevant hidden away?
[14:48] <dadixub> hello
[14:54] <xubuntu988> Няхаха!
[14:58] <tomatopotato> back, well there is a preferences option where you can enable additional sources and outputs
[15:00] <tomatopotato> as you can see here for example
[15:00] <tomatopotato> http://askubuntu.com/questions/80384/where-are-the-lxde-sound-preferences
[15:01] <tomatopotato> you can tryto checkall and turn them alup
[15:02] <tomatopotato> alup=al.up
[15:02] <tomatopotato> al.up= all up
[15:02] <nicklasbo> Yes, great. Will give it a go :)
[15:02] <tomatopotato> need a smoke
[15:06] <tomatopotato> back
[15:06] <nicklasbo> Ok. Tried xfce4-mixer, selecting all controls and turning them up. No speaker sound... I've also tried pavucontrol, selecting different profiles such as "Analog Stereo Output"...
[15:07] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: don't smoke, use this https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3077785/1111091703.jpeg
[15:07] <tomatopotato> lol
[15:08] <tomatopotato> nicklasbo, did you click in soundcard (pop up) and see what else you have there to choose?
[15:10] <nicklasbo> Jep. There I can choose: HDA Intel PCH (Alsa mixer) , Playback: Built-in Audio Analog Stereo (PulseAudio Mixer) and last Capture... Everything is turned up
[15:10] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: that's what i use instead of smoking
[15:10] <tomatopotato> nyrednek bad habits die hard
[15:11] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: yeah, this feels like smoking or i'd never have been able to quit
[15:11] <nyRednek> tomatopotato: there is liquid in that tank that gives the feeling of smoke as you inhale it
[15:11] <tomatopotato> nicklasbo did you try the othr options to ? sometimes you have to switch between those and only a restartwill help or sometimes loging out and loging in again will help to
[15:12] <nicklasbo> Yes, turned everything up for all Sound Card options. Will try the restart hint. Thanks for your help! :)
[15:13] <tomatopotato> i cant promise it will help tough
[15:17] <CQ> hello, do I just need to install xfce4 or the whole xubuntu-desktop package to run xfce? I currently have kde running...
[15:19] <torax> CQ: just to run xfce, the package xfce is enough, if you want every theme, application etc the "xubuntu experience" then install xubuntu-desktop
[15:19] <torax> xfce4*
[15:19] <CQ> torax: hm, just installe dit but kdm won't let me select it from teh login screen...
[15:20] <CQ> wait, sec, does let me select it, but jumps back to the kdm login screen after a brief blank screen...
[15:20] <CQ> any ideas? I thought that was kde related but xfce does the same thing...
[15:20] <CQ> home is mounted, and I can log into a console no problem
[15:21] <torax> hmm :S
[15:22] <CQ> FYI, this is just after an upgrade to quantal
[15:32] <ti89breh> hi
[15:32] <ti89breh> how can I change just the button theme in xubuntu? I don't like how the buttons look
[16:18] <mahmoud_> I'm trying to open mp3 files, but the gmusicbrowser complains.
[16:18] <mahmoud_> How to fix it so that it plays all kinds of audio files?
[16:21] <mahmoud_> deebo
[16:31] <mahmoud_> deebo, I'm trying to open mp3 files, but the gmusicbrowser complains. How to fix it so that it plays all kinds of audio files?
[16:44] <c2tarun> hey guys where can I find logs of this channel?
[16:46] <c2tarun> got it.
[16:59] <PhoenixSTF> hello anyone got backlight fn keys to work on a eeepc 1101ha???
[17:03] <GridCube> mahmoud_, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:06] <mahmoud_> GridCube, E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:06] <mahmoud_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:07] <GridCube> apparently
[17:07] <GridCube> are you updating?
[17:07] <GridCube> using usc? using synaptic?
[17:07] <mahmoud_> No.
[17:07] <GridCube> well... it seems like you are
[17:08] <GridCube> did you run it with sudo?
[17:08] <mahmoud_> yeah
[17:08] <GridCube> well, you might be updating in the background
[17:09] <mahmoud_> Is there a way that I can kill all the processes that could be updating?
[17:11] <GridCube> well, see if you have one backend_helper.py runing
[17:11] <GridCube> or aptd
[18:05] <xubuntu648> hello I was trying to install skype and pasted this line in a terminal
[18:05] <xubuntu648> sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[18:05] <xubuntu648> but this causes the software center to crach
[18:06] <GridCube> xubuntu648, i simply installed the deb from their website and it works preeety well
[18:06] <xubuntu648> is there any way I can undo this?
[18:06] <xubuntu648> in a terminal of course because s.center crashes
[18:06] <GridCube> xubuntu648, well remove that source
[18:06] <TheSheep> xubuntu648: it's in /etc/apt/sources.d/
[18:07] <xubuntu648> Thank you, this is what I want to do
[18:09] <xubuntu648> I am in etc/apt/ now and there are two such files 1) sources.list and 2) sources.list.save I will check them now, thanks again
[18:14] <xubuntu648> I opened this two file with leafpad and removed the lines containing deb http://archive.canonical.com but it won't be saved, I have to configure a way to grant permissions
[18:20] <GridCube> xubuntu648, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[18:22] <xubuntu648> thank you GridCube, bye!
[18:31] <xubuntu042> GridCube i just came back to saz that it is solved now, I just had to right click and select "open with software source".. remove the specific link (visually, by mouse) and now software center is alright again. I appreciate your help, bye!
[18:31] <trasp> Okay, so I've just started using Xubuntu.. dunno if this is a xfce-problem or what it is, but whenever I try to launch MonkeyStudio it crashes. Anyone know why this happens and have a solution?
[18:31] <GridCube> trasp, try opening it from a terminal and see the error logs
[18:32] <trasp> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[18:32] <GridCube> there was a segfault
[18:32] <GridCube> it failed
[18:33] <GridCube> if thats everything that it says then theres not much else to know about
[18:33] <trasp> hm
[18:34] <trasp> lots of lines above it says "Unable to handle unregistered datatype" Kurl/Qlist
[18:34] <trasp> for three different properties
[18:34] <trasp> Other than that it doesn't seem to complain about anything
[18:36] <trasp> So what do I do? Just stop using monkeystudio?
[18:36] <GridCube> mmm its a qt program correct?
[18:36] <trasp> Yes
[18:36] <GridCube> maybe you dont have the qt engine running?
[18:37] <GridCube> i dont really know, let me check
[18:38] <trasp> Some forum I found on google recommended to remove "qt-at-spi", but that one isn't intalled
[18:39] <GridCube> trasp, are you using the default theme for xubuntu?
[18:40] <trasp> Yes, I installed it like two days ago and haven't changed a thing
[18:40] <trasp> other than installing monkeystudio through api-get
[18:41] <GridCube> trasp, https://bugs.launchpad.net/monkeystudio/+bug/576819/comments/1
[18:41] <GridCube> it should be fixed on quantal
[18:42] <trasp> Allright
[18:42] <trasp> Thanks
[18:48] <trasp> hm, it's quantal that I use
[20:13] <JainAmber> Hello
[20:14] <JainAmber> Quoting http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ : "The 12.04 release...is a Long Term Support release, which means it has support for 3 years"
[20:14] <shouganai> yeah
[20:14] <JainAmber> I thought LTS were supported for "5 years" instead of "3 years"
[20:15] <JainAmber> Or, does that "5 years support for LTS" applies only to ubuntu (and not Xubuntu)?
[20:17] <knome> JainAmber, xubuntu has 3 years lts support
[20:18] <JainAmber> ok
[20:18] <JainAmber> Thanks knome :)
[20:41] <Kevin89> Hey everyone, I just installed Xubuntu and downloaded fluxbox but when I launched a session for the first time it was already partially configured ... is there any easy way to just have a fresh vanilla flux install?
[23:22] <Guest50378> What is the advantage of having XFCE over Unity or KDE?
[23:24] <bazhang> none
[23:24] <bazhang> just personal preference
[23:25] <Guest50378> Thanks, but can someone help me find a wireless driver for a Broadcom Wireless card.
[23:26] <Guest50378> *?
[23:26] <bazhang> !broadcom
[23:26] <bazhang> have a read ^


[07:43] <xnox> does CONFIG_ARCH_RANDOM enable usage of intel rdrand to seed /dev/random ?
[09:47]  * henrix will be out for a bit
[10:20] <tseliot> apw: I'm facing a problem with 3.10 and fglrx but I'm not sure it depends on my work on the procfs calls
[10:21] <apw> tseliot, sounds nasty indeed
[10:24] <tseliot> apw: I'm getting this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5783212/
[10:25] <apw> tseliot, i think i recall them using bios calls to get the BIOS out of the card, and sucking info out of it
[10:25] <apw> perhaps a change in interface there for making int10 calls
[10:26] <tseliot> apw: hah, one more error: Fail to open device PCI:1:0:0
[10:26] <apw> oh :)
[10:26] <tseliot> which is the actual amd card...
[11:48]  * ppisati goes out for a bit...
[12:04]  * henrix -> lunch
[13:27] <rtg_> henrix, rebooting gomeisa for misc updates
[13:27] <henrix> rtg_: ack
[14:01] <apw> henrix, ok ... cve tracker is happy again
[14:02] <apw> henrix, totaaly a bug, and only affecting handlng of linus tree markers ie upstream_source: not any of the visible versions
[14:02] <henrix> apw: great, thanks. why something has to break whenever i touch cve tracker? :)
[14:03] <apw> henrix, cause you are doing work so it has to changed things :)
[14:03]  * henrix shakes on every bzr push :)
[14:03] <apw> henrix, what you are doing is just fine :)  its the tracker that has mental problems
[14:07] <smb> infinity, Did I ask you about looking at crash today?
[14:27] <rtg_> slangasek, using libpython-dev as a build dependency instead of python-dev causes a build failure, e.g., make cannot find /usr/bin/python-config.
[14:27] <rtg_> Makefile:755: The path '/usr/bin/python-config' is not executable.
[14:27] <rtg_> Makefile:755: *** Please set 'PYTHON_CONFIG' appropriately.  Stop.
[14:27] <rtg_> I've not encountered this problem, so I could use your input.
[14:40] <slangasek> rtg_: hmm, that's strange, it *cross*-built for me just fine; in that case, I guess more work is needed before we can make the package cross-build-friendly
[14:40] <rtg_> slangasek, yeah, I was just drilling down through the dependency layers.
[14:47] <rtg_> slangasek, python-dev depends on python (which contains python-config) whereas libpython-dev does _not_ depend on python
[14:48] <slangasek> rtg_: actually, python-config should be in python-dev, *not* in python; that seems to be the case here
[14:49] <rtg_> well, until hat bug is resolved I'm gonna drop that part of your patch.
[14:49] <slangasek> rtg_: yep, sounds fine
[14:49] <slangasek> I'm still puzzled that the package didn't ftbfs for me when building cross
[14:49] <slangasek> either maybe that's a clue, or maybe it's a subtle bug
[14:50] <rtg_> slangasek, you're sure it tried to build perf ?
[14:50] <slangasek> yep
[14:50] <rtg_> dunno then
[14:50] <slangasek> but maybe I didn't clean the tree between attempts
[14:50] <rtg_> slangasek, what incantation did you use ? dpkg-buildpackage --arch=armhf ?
[14:51] <slangasek> rtg_: 'debuild -uc -us -B -aarmhf'
[14:54] <rtg_> slangasek, 'do_tools	= false' for armhf.
[14:55] <rtg_> seems like I should fix that
[14:56] <slangasek> rtg_: ok :)
[15:00] <rtg_> slangasek, man, this multi-arch cross build works great forarmhf on saucy. I feel stupid for having used QEMU to do all the Nexus kernel development. this is blazing fast.
[15:01] <slangasek> :D
[15:01] <slangasek> rtg_: well, when poking at this, I was shaking my head in bewilderment that the cross-build wasn't in better shape and wondering what exactly you guys were doing for ARM kernel testing ;)
[15:01] <rtg_> slangasek, mostly native building.
[15:02] <slangasek> right :)
[15:23] <rtg_> bjf, By default, no CPU will be an adaptive-ticks CPU.  The "nohz_full="
[15:23] <rtg_> boot parameter specifies the adaptive-ticks CPUs.  For example,
[15:23] <rtg_> "nohz_full=1,6-8" says that CPUs 1, 6, 7, and 8 are to be adaptive-ticks
[15:23] <rtg_> CPUs.
[15:24] <rtg_> see Documentation/timers/NO_HZ.txt
[15:25] <bjf> looking
[15:27] <bjf> rtg_, as i read that, it doesn't make sense for us to have CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL=y
[15:28] <rtg_> bjf, well, given that its causing problems.... Otherwise with CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL=n there is no change in behavior
[15:28] <rtg_> its opt in
[15:31] <bjf> rtg_, it's not opt in if _ALL=y: "the CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL_ALL=y Kconfig parameter specifies that all CPUs other than the boot CPU are adaptive-ticks CPUs"
[15:32] <rtg_> bjf, right. its opt-in if  CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL=n
[15:32] <bjf> ack
[15:33] <rtg_> bjf, so, disabling that config means the feature will get little testing. thats all I'm saying.
[15:34] <bjf> rtg_, agreed
[15:35] <rtg_> bjf, perhaps you should reach out to Fred about this. he might have some ideas
[15:40] <bjf> rtg_, i just don't see that option being viable for a general desktop kernel
[15:41] <rtg_> bjf, it seems like it would be the cat's meow if it worked.
[16:16] <slangasek> ogra_: so dropping in the new kernel with the console fixes yesterday gives me a perfect, no-scrolly-text container-flipped boot on grouper... but when I try to launch apps, I'm getting the white canvas again, which I thought was fixed a while ago.  Do you know what's going on there?
[16:21] <ogra_> slangasek, there is  a race in the platform-api/qtubuntu code, its known and being worked on, reboot a few times, one boot will have it working
[16:21] <slangasek> ok
[16:21] <slangasek> so nothing I need to worry about, thanks :)
[16:35] <rtg_> slangasek, I figured out  why cross compiling fell out of favor for me. dpkg-buildpackage was what I was using, but the installed package dependency check always failed, whereas debuild must be smarter.
[16:36] <slangasek> rtg_: debuild actually uses dpkg-buildpackage under the hood, so I think dpkg itself got smarter :)
[16:36] <slangasek> rtg_: you can also always pass '-d' to skip the dependency check if you know it's checking wrong, fwiw
[16:36] <rtg_> slangasek, well, dpkg-buildpackage _still_ fails the dependency check
[16:36] <slangasek> hmm!
[16:36] <rtg_> lemme try -d
[16:37] <rtg_> tahts better
[16:43]  * ogra_ sees a "export $(dpkg-architecture -aarmhf)" .... in the cross compile instructions ... might be that this is related ?
[16:45] <rtg_> ogra_, I'm running in a clean saucy amd64 chroot with no environment changes. 'dpkg-buildpackage -d -aarmhf -B' works pretty well (except for tools)
[16:46] <ogra_> ah, i never build tools ...
[16:46] <rtg_> and frankly, I don't care about tools for test builds
[16:46]  * ogra_ always only builds binary-$subarch
[16:47] <rtg_> I _am_ liking this cross compile stuff though. it hauls ass.
[16:58] <ogra_> hehe, yeah
[17:01] <rtg_> ppisati, conf call ?
[17:01] <ppisati> yep
[17:50]  * rtg_ -> lunch
[18:56]  * apw calls it a day, and goes make a new travel laptop .. sigh
[19:40]  * rtg_ -> EOD
[20:07] <infinity> ppisati: Can you re-do your ti-omap4/Q rebase to match the respin?  (bug #1192805)
[20:07] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1192805 in Kernel SRU Workflow "linux-ti-omap4: <version to be filled> -proposed tracker" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1192805


[00:42] <Guest17> I have an error message on the menu panel (red stop sign icon), but doens't let me ScrnCap when visible, and goes away when I hit ESC
[00:45] <Guest17> and the error message is a bit ambiguous, regarding a failed upgrade, but can't find any details, any suggestions?
[00:47] <superkuh> Guest17, I'd open synaptic and look for "Broken" packages.
[00:48] <superkuh> Guest17, additionally you might see something in $ dmesg  or in syslog.
[00:48] <Guest17> superkuh is the the same as "software bouitque" ?
[00:48] <superkuh> Have you recently installed something out of a PPA?
[00:48] <superkuh> Um, I don't know.
[00:49] <superkuh> I don't know what "software bouitque" is.
[00:49] <Guest17> Not manuallly I havent'.
[00:49] <superkuh> synapic is the synaptic package manager. I thought it came with ubuntu. It's synaptic-pkexec as a process.
[00:49] <superkuh> I haven't used any modern Ubuntu releases though. Nothing past 14.04.
[00:50] <superkuh> $ sudo apt-get check
[00:50] <Guest17> This is ubuntu-mate I'm running, I cna't find pkg mgr from the menu
[00:50] <superkuh> That should give you a list of broken packages from the command line.
[00:51] <Guest17> nothing returned
[00:51] <superkuh> Er... there's no more apt-get, is there.
[00:51] <superkuh> Ubuntu changed it.
[00:51] <Guest17> Yeah there is, at least here
[00:52] <superkuh> I think rather than trying a bunch of cli stuff you should install synaptic package manager (ubuntu's package manager). https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/addremove-install-synaptic.html.en
[00:52] <superkuh> Then you can open it's GUI and look at the Broken packages list and get other information about problems with apt.
[00:57] <Guest17> pkg mgr says 0 broken
[00:59] <superkuh> Is it the red triangle icon?
[01:00] <superkuh> Oh. Stop sign. You already said.
[01:00] <superkuh> I guess write down what it says with another computer or pen and paper?
[01:02] <Guest17> Now the stop sign went away on it's own, SMH
[01:02] <superkuh> Computers!
[01:03] <Guest17> Figures.
[01:04] <Guest17> Now just to figure out where to report the Mate desktop bug


[00:21] <mariogrip> dobey: did the update go well?
[02:17] <dobey> mariogrip: i'm running #4 from stable now, yeah
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-touch-ota-10-update-to-land-in-april-supports-the-new-bq-ubuntu-tablet-501510.shtml
[05:40] <osmosis> Hey guys, just noticed my flo updated from devel r430 to r455 which failed to boot so when I went to fresh install again devel is back down at r8? Just wondering what happened with the numbering.
[05:49] <osmosis> Never mind, multirom just stopped showing dev-proposed for some reason
[08:58] <[tj]> moin
[09:58] <mardy> marcustomlinson: hi! Do you know how to set an environment variable for a scope? (need to add U1_DEBUG=1 to the click scope)
[09:59] <marcustomlinson> mardy: just a sec
[10:06] <marcustomlinson> mardy: adb into the phone and run:
[10:06] <marcustomlinson> restart scope-registry
[10:06] <marcustomlinson> then
[10:06] <marcustomlinson> U1_DEBUG=1 /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/unity-scopes/scoperunner '' /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/unity-scopes/clickapps/clickscope.ini
[10:07] <mardy> marcustomlinson: thanks!
[10:23] <oSoMoN> Saviq, what’s the ETA for landing https://code.launchpad.net/~josharenson/unity8/input-name-filter-proxy/+merge/286684 ?
[10:23] <Saviq> oSoMoN, hopefully end of this week
[10:24] <Saviq> oSoMoN, we're waiting on the UITK release that's under QA now
[10:24] <oSoMoN> ok
[10:24] <oSoMoN> Saviq, I’ve been without meaningful autopilot test results for the browser for a month now, because of that bug, so I’m really eager to see it fixed
[10:24] <Saviq> oSoMoN, I know
[10:25] <Saviq> I'm eager to land that, too, sorry it's taking so long, we've just been blocked by everything we could've been blocked by
[13:27] <marlinc> Test
[14:19] <Mirv> greyback_: if you have time for some Qt 5.6 fun at some point, bug #1554404 is there to get. they've removed the pkgconfig file, but the headers would be still there in qtbase5-private-dev
[14:20] <greyback_> Mirv: ack
[19:24] <bretth> Is this channel still active?
[19:24] <genii> Occasionally
[19:25] <dobey> lol
[19:25] <dobey> 300 people in the channel
[19:25] <dobey> i think it's "active" yes :)
[19:26] <bretth> Well, I wasn't sure :P
[19:27] <bretth> Anywho, I've been having a problem with app development that I can't seem to find an answer for on AskUbuntu or the QML forums
[19:28] <pmcgowan> try also on ubuntu-app-devel
[19:28] <dobey> #ubuntu-app-devel might be a better place to ask. it's the app devel channel :)
[19:28] <bretth> Ah, I did not know that channel existed.  Thanks for the pointer :)
[19:46] <lpotter> not much active during my day light hours
[19:46] <lpotter> I usually end up mumbling to myself
[19:46] <dobey> lpotter: your daylight hours are all wrong though
[19:47] <lpotter> :)
[19:47] <lpotter> and the moon is upside down
[19:47] <dobey> hah. true
[19:48] <dobey> i don't think i've ever even looked at the moon when south of the equator
[19:49] <lpotter> just try standing on your head... same thing :)
[20:00] <lpotter> that's what I do when I feel homesick :)
[20:01] <dobey> heh
[20:01] <dobey> not vegemite?
[20:02] <lpotter> eww.. I get enough of that by having to make vegemite things for my kids
[20:03] <lpotter> from the us originally
[20:03] <popey> mmmmm marmite
[20:04] <lpotter> I swear you could make a house out of vegemite and wheatbix
[20:05] <lpotter> some day I will, just to prove a point
[20:09] <dobey> oh
[20:09] <dobey> lol
[20:09] <davmor2> lpotter: it would never work with wheatbix you'd have to use shredded wheat
[20:09] <davmor2> lpotter: be more like a straw bail house that way
[20:10] <lpotter> just get the wheatbix wet first
[20:14] <davmor2> lpotter: hahaha
[20:29] <stakewinner00> why ubuntu touch uses dnsmasq?
[20:31] <dobey> why not use it?
[20:33] <stakewinner00> it's useless, or at least i don't know which utility it have on a phone.
[20:34] <stakewinner00> if i'm on wifi, and i have hotspot disable, why is it needed to be running?
[20:34] <dobey> it's not useless
[20:34] <dobey> it's used for dns caching
[20:34] <dobey> the same as it is on regular ubuntu
[20:36] <stakewinner00> oh, ok, i thought it was only useful with hotspots.
[20:38] <dobey> mariogrip: hrmm, mtpd/adbd don't seem to be working on my n5 with stable #4 :-/
[20:39] <mariogrip> dobey: oh, using developer mode?
[20:39] <dobey> mariogrip: yeah
[20:40] <dobey> mariogrip: well, even without, when i plug in the usb it doesn't appear in dmesg or on the launcher
[20:42] <mariogrip> dobey: ok, i'll take a look
[20:45] <dobey> oh fun. i can't run system-image-cli --switch from the terminal app either it seems. whee
[20:48] <mariogrip> dobey: ok, found the issue, fix on it's way (ish 10mins)
[20:48] <dobey> mariogrip: cool, thanks
[21:24] <dobey> mariogrip: did you make any progress on finding out why blutetooth doesn't work?
[21:43] <mariogrip> dobey: I did some debugging, but I haven't found anything yet
[21:45] <mariogrip> did the update work?
[21:45] <dobey> mariogrip: yeah, i can mtp/adb now
[21:45] <mariogrip> :)
[21:48] <dobey> oh hrmm
[21:48] <dobey> well /dev/nmea seems to exist at least, for gps
[21:48] <dobey> but gps doesn't work :-/
[21:50] <mariogrip> I haven't looked to to gps yet
[21:56] <dobey> sure
[21:59] <dobey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telephony-service/+bug/1530934 ick


[01:47] <Mossyfunk> Hey, I set up lubuntu 10.10 on my girls laptop but had to start from the mini iso due to memory restraints. The system is up and everything works... but hen I put my password in to start synaptic it tells me it's wrong... yet I can login an sudo with the same password. Anyone have any ideas? sh'es not too good with command line stuff
[01:51] <MrChrisDruif> Mossyfunk: You got it working with the miniISO? :)
[01:51] <Mossyfunk> yup all good
[01:51] <Mossyfunk> ysorted that password issue haha should have googles >_>
[01:51] <MrChrisDruif> What?
[01:52] <MrChrisDruif> You fixed it?
[01:52] <Mossyfunk> synaptic shortcut was running gksu synaptic instead of gksudo synaptic
[01:52] <MrChrisDruif> Alright....not good I presume?
[01:52] <MrChrisDruif> :P
[01:52] <Mossyfunk> lol just googled and got the answer... damn i'm daft sometimes
[01:52] <MrChrisDruif> Well....it should be good from the get go right?
[01:53] <MrChrisDruif> Might be a bite-size bug :)
[01:56] <Mossyfunk> seems like just happened starting from the mini iso.... normal 10.10 install never did that
[01:57] <MrChrisDruif> Then something on the mini-iso is wrong I guess
[01:57] <Mossyfunk> yup
[01:57] <MrChrisDruif> Or in the ppa
[01:57] <MrChrisDruif> Lubuntu is install via ppa right?
[01:58] <Mossyfunk> yeah just installed python stuff and lubuntu-desktop from the PPA
[01:59] <MrChrisDruif> So it might be the ppa, alright, thanks for letting us know :)
[01:59] <Mossyfunk> =)
[02:00] <Mossyfunk> How do I change the command run by application shortcuts in the menu? i right click and change the command but it just goes back to what it was
[02:00] <MrChrisDruif> What do you mean?
[02:01] <Mossyfunk> need to make the synaptic shortcut run gksudo instead of gksu
[02:01] <Mossyfunk> but whenever i change the command in the shortcut properties it just changes it back to gksu
[06:58] <NRWlion> good morning every1
[09:55] <NRWlion> anyone a good ftp client and webeditor for HTML?
[10:14] <bioterror> NRWlion, lftp & vi/vim/joe/nano
[10:14] <NRWlion> thx
[10:16] <bioterror> if you use nano
[10:16] <bioterror> you can notice that /usr/lib/xulrunner-<IP_ADDRESS>/res/html.css uses different kind of colours
[10:17] <bioterror> might make it easier
[10:20] <NRWlion> thx again
[10:20] <NRWlion> i'm happy to have my other problems solved :D
[10:20] <NRWlion> now i have to return to my "normal" business
[10:20] <NRWlion> so, cu maybe tonight
[13:16] <ct529> how do you change keyboard layout on lubuntu?
[13:17] <mark76> There's an app for that
[13:17] <mark76> Something like LXKeyboard
[13:18] <mark76> LXkeymap!
[13:18] <ct529> mark76: thanks
[13:18] <MrChrisDruif> Ahh...there's an app for that....wasn't that some website as well? :P
[13:19] <MrChrisDruif> +""
[13:19] <mark76> It should be installed under Preferences
[14:29] <b0o-awesome> Where is the character map?
[14:30] <bioterror> b0o-awesome, apt-cache search character map |less
[14:31] <b0o-awesome> ok
[14:31] <MrChrisDruif> bioterror: not with a dash? character-map?
[14:32] <bioterror> you tell us
[14:33] <b0o-awesome> can't see good applications to do that
[14:35] <MrChrisDruif> gucharmap?
[14:35] <MrChrisDruif> Default in Ubunut
[14:36] <b0o-awesome> and i need to cut some used space down
[14:36] <MrChrisDruif> 578kb installed
[14:37] <b0o-awesome> ?
[14:37] <MrChrisDruif> Woops, 561
[14:37] <MrChrisDruif> That gucharmap
[14:37] <MrChrisDruif> It's used in Ubuntu
[14:38] <MrChrisDruif> The mother of all derivations :P
[14:39] <b0o-awesome> ยินดีต้อนรับ
[14:39] <b0o-awesome> :)
[14:39] <b0o-awesome> There
[14:39] <b0o-awesome> i used gucharmap
[14:39] <b0o-awesome> It works
[14:39] <MrChrisDruif> Looks awesome b0o-awesome :)
[14:40] <b0o-awesome> yeah
[14:40] <b0o-awesome> Than you
[14:40] <b0o-awesome> Thank you*
[14:40] <MrChrisDruif> Did it have any dependencies you didn't have?
[14:40] <b0o-awesome> no
[14:40] <MrChrisDruif> Alright...then I could suggest adding gucharmap to Lubuntu...some people might like it :)
[14:41] <MrChrisDruif> It's pretty damn light afaik
[14:41] <b0o-awesome> :)
[14:42] <MrChrisDruif> Does anybody know where I can make suggestions?
[14:44] <JoeMaverickSett> MrChrisDruif: mailing list perhaps ;)
[14:45] <MrChrisDruif> Ahh...alright :) Got a link for me?
[14:45] <JoeMaverickSett> MrChrisDruif: if you're subscribed to the launchpad page.  you'll have it ;)
[14:45] <JoeMaverickSett> :P
[14:45] <MrChrisDruif> Which I'm not ;)
[14:45] <JoeMaverickSett> MrChrisDruif: then you should? :P
[14:46] <bioterror> you hang in here but you're not on the mailing list
[14:46] <bioterror> w000t?!
[14:46] <JoeMaverickSett> never mind,i'll get ya a link
[14:46] <JoeMaverickSett> MrChrisDruif<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:46] <MrChrisDruif> Woohoo, awesome-sauce :D
[14:47] <MrChrisDruif> Joined the launchpad team :P
[15:17] <NRWlion> hey everyone!
[15:18] <MrChrisDruif> Hai NRWlion
[15:19] <NRWlion> we already know each other, right? ;)
[15:31] <MrChrisDruif> NRWlion: Who, you and me?
[15:32] <NRWlion> right ;)
[15:33] <MrChrisDruif> Well....just a bit of course :D
[15:41] <NRWlion> but we have seen each other today, rigfht?
[15:41] <NRWlion> ;)
[15:41] <NRWlion> -f
[15:59] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah :)
[16:08] <pip__> ozone theme looks well chaps
[17:57] <SuperHark> ?
[17:57] <SuperHark> Oh wow
[19:38] <exutux> hi all, how can i remove wifi password request at login? ( gnome-keyring )
[20:07] <odium_> hi
[20:46] <hosoka> is there a way to find out what the max on memory is without opening de desktop ? e.g. via System profiler ?
[20:51] <kosaidpo|> hello guys
[20:51] <kosaidpo|> i cant make this adio extention to work even installed vlc plugin
[20:51] <kosaidpo|> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hgjdhckebbdoobhniheihpdogeoeelbn#
[20:54] <kosaidpo|> any idea guys ??
[20:55] <hosoka> Requires Windows Media Player plugin or VLC media player with Mozilla plugin to play the radio streams.
[20:55] <kosaidpo|> hosoka: yeh im on linux so i used vlc plugin
[20:56] <kosaidpo|> hosoka: this sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-pulse mozilla-plugin-vlc
[20:56] <kosaidpo|> but still doesnt wok hosoka
[20:56] <hosoka> not realy familiar with this
[20:57] <kosaidpo|> hosoka: ohh okies tnx anyway
[20:58] <hosoka> have seen that not every one got this working.
[20:58] <hosoka> looking at the reviews
[20:58] <hosoka> using Chrome or Chromium /
[20:59] <kosaidpo|> chomuim yeh i jst ead that in cmmt
[20:59] <kosaidpo|> i guess it works with googlwe chrome
[21:00] <hosoka> in your general settings what do you see in Active Plugin ?
[21:00] <kosaidpo|> wht general ?? where ??
[21:01] <hosoka> if you go to options
[21:01] <hosoka> you either need to use the debug page from
[21:01] <hosoka> chrome-extension://hgjdhckebbdoobhniheihpdogeoeelbn/player-debug.html
[21:01] <kosaidpo|> ahh this Could not find a plugin.
[21:01] <hosoka> indeed
[21:01] <hosoka> so from there on you sort it out.
[21:02] <hosoka> you will also see how you can troubleshoot this.
[21:02] <hosoka> but there is an email where to sent this out.
[21:02] <hosoka> think probs Google
[21:03] <hosoka> also check out
[21:03] <hosoka> chrome-extension://hgjdhckebbdoobhniheihpdogeoeelbn/help.html#no-plugin
[21:04] <kosaidpo|> yeh i saw this one
[21:04] <kosaidpo|> n tried to install wht it takes but no succes
[21:06] <hosoka> use the debug list and sent out to their emailaddress.
[21:06] <hosoka> after installing have you close and open the browser back /
[21:07] <kosaidpo|> yehh
[21:13] <hosoka> alright
[21:13] <hosoka> run the test at the Player Debug
[21:13] <hosoka> and then for further help, please use the Give feedback form.
[21:13] <hosoka> include the test results in there.
[21:15] <kosaidpo|> yeh ill but
[21:15] <kosaidpo|> i wanna keep it as the last option
[21:15] <kosaidpo|> :D
[21:16] <hosoka> just tried it and it gives me same fault as what you have now.
[21:17] <kosaidpo|> hosoka: even  afte installin the plugins??
[21:17] <hosoka> indeed
[21:17] <hosoka> so what I did is Run Tests
[21:18] <hosoka> and even there it mentioned in the output that there might be at least 5 failures
[21:18] <hosoka> have you done that test ?
[21:18] <kosaidpo|> yehh
[21:18] <hosoka> the Player Debug ?
[21:18] <kosaidpo|> they said even thweres some failurs it will work but it didint :P
[21:22] <hosoka> indeed.
[21:22] <hosoka> I will sent them my debuglist
[21:22] <hosoka> hopefully it can be sorten out.
[21:22] <hosoka> could not help you further on this.
[21:23] <hosoka> even i do not use vlc but just downloaded it and it just works fine without using it with that radio player
[21:23] <hosoka> so I do not think it is on the vlc.
[21:31] <hosoka> where can I find the default desktop image of Lubuntu ?
[21:36] <kosaidpo|> bk
[21:37] <kosaidpo|> hosoka: it worked ??
[21:37] <hosoka> nah
[21:37] <hosoka> still the same
[21:37] <hosoka> have sent the debuglist to Andreas. He seems to be the man behind this.
[21:38] <kosaidpo|> yeh well me  i embe a few month ago
[21:38] <kosaidpo|> under windows i faced this poblem
[21:41] <hosoka> and now also under linux :-)
[21:43] <kosaidpo|> yesh :P
[21:44] <hosoka> that is not good
[21:45] <kosaidpo|> indeed
[22:30] <odium_> hello
[22:31] <MrChrisDruif> Hai odium_ :)
[22:32] <odium_> the installatipn told me that i can find help here =)
[22:33] <MrChrisDruif> Great :)
[22:34] <odium_> because after the installation i don't have any programs in the start bar, and i can't connect to any WLAN (they're there, but the password windows appears just for an instance)
[22:35] <MrChrisDruif> Odd...
[22:35] <MrChrisDruif> Did you do a normal installation?
[22:36] <odium_> i think so^^
[22:37] <odium_> i installed from a live usb, and under the usb all is working fine
[22:37] <MrChrisDruif> Even more odd <_<"
[22:37] <MrChrisDruif> Let me see if I can boot my VM....
[22:37] <MrChrisDruif> If anyone else could aid, it would be appreciated :P
[22:37] <kosaidpo|> odium_: whts u prob ??
[22:39] <odium_> kosaidpo|: it seems that i don't have any programms after installation and can't access any Wlan, because the password window vanishes in an instant
[22:39] <kosaidpo|> ohh thats weird
[22:40] <odium_> and i had hoped that it's just a "look at the faq" problem :D
[22:41] <MrChrisDruif> odium_: No, your special :D
[22:41] <odium_> i hate being special :D
[22:43] <MrChrisDruif> Even if that means you'd get special care? O:-)
[22:43] <MrChrisDruif> I can't seem to even boot the VM from iso <_<"
[22:43] <odium_> like severly wounded & dying people? :P
[22:44] <MrChrisDruif> odium_: No, like people go search for hours to find a solution to your problem :P
[22:45] <odium_> just in case: my lubuntu partion is just 10 gb, but i thought that would be enough
[22:47] <MrChrisDruif> My root partition on Ubuntu is also 10GB
[22:47] <MrChrisDruif> I've got an separate /home...
[22:47] <odium_> that was my plan too
[22:48] <MrChrisDruif> But it should probably have been a /data...learned that later
[22:48] <MrChrisDruif> Or better put...I still need to read about it :P
[22:48] <odium_> ok, i installed it again, lets try and hope
[22:53] <odium_> it worked!
[22:53] <MrChrisDruif> Awesome-sauce :D
[22:54] <odium_> more or less. now its on auto sign in and without encyption
[22:54] <MrChrisDruif> So we should put in the instructions you should install it twice?  :P
[23:07] <odium_> linux
[23:08] <odium_> there are linux viruses^^ (ok, i guess the half of them runs on java...)
[23:10] <MrChrisDruif> odium_: I know....it's not worth my effort :D
[23:12] <odium_> yeah, i am now thinking the same, at least about live scanners. I keep my "once or twice a year" scan^^
[23:16] <MrChrisDruif> I keep it to my once or twice a year reinstallation :D


[08:45] <alterjsive> is there any pxeboot friendly mode for port bonding?
[08:46] <alterjsive> wait let me rephrase that. Is there any port bonding mode that I can use during the installation of my servers without getting any faillures
[08:47] <alterjsive> active backup right?
[08:57] <alterjsive>  gateway-connectivity: Failed to apply custom network configuration View log
[08:57] <alterjsive> Unable to communicate to the MAAS metadata service after applying custom network configuration
[08:58] <alterjsive> very wierd
[09:16] <alterjsive> port bonding doesn't work with ubuntu 20.04 and MAAS. I tried active backup.  I get an error at the gateway-connectivity test: Failed to apply custom network configuration View log. Unable to communicate to the MAAS metadata service after applying custom network configuration.
[10:12] <alterjsive> Marking node failed - Node operation 'Deploying' timed out after 30 minutes.
[10:32] <alterjsive> This server has been installed without problems before. I don't understand why it's suddenly a problem
[10:32] <alterjsive> what is the best way to do a clean start?
[10:33] <alterjsive> maybe I need to delete all the partions? deleting the server in maas and pxe booting it again seems not enough
[11:48] <classicsnail> alterjsive: active-backup
[11:51] <alterjsive> classicsnail: I tried that, didn't work
[11:51] <alterjsive> I had to delete the bond to install the ubuntu servers
[11:52] <classicsnail> sounds like a switching configuration issue, the primary that comes up doesn't hvae a path for whatever reason
[11:53] <classicsnail> we use active-backup presently
[11:53] <alterjsive> weird, so if I would reset my switch settings to defaults. it should work?
[11:55] <classicsnail> active-backup simply detects a working path, based usually on ethernet link state - it doesn't need lacp or anything like that
[11:55] <alterjsive> yes, that's why I picked it
[11:56] <alterjsive> I have a 802.3ad router but I couldn't get that to work ether
[11:56] <alterjsive> same error
[11:56] <alterjsive> switch*
[11:57] <alterjsive> with LACP
[12:12] <classicsnail> pxe and lacp is odd, it depends entirely on the switch os if that's going to work
[12:13] <classicsnail> you can, but not every switch will support a tagged and untagged frame pathing
[12:13] <classicsnail> forwarding even
[12:13] <classicsnail> especially if they're the same vlan id
[12:34] <alterjsive> classicsnail: their all on the default vlan.
[12:40] <classicsnail> have you checked the console, or the syslog for the machine as delivered to maas?
[12:40] <classicsnail> there's usually an answer on either
[12:40] <classicsnail> all the extra services are working? such as dhcp and so on?
[12:40] <classicsnail> break it down to the simplest test you can do, and build up from there? install it using just a single link, no vlans or other trickery?
[12:41] <alterjsive> I'm trying to install the system without bond's first
[12:41] <alterjsive> for some reason it doesn't work anymore
[12:41] <alterjsive> Marking node failed - Node operation 'Deploying' timed out after 30 minutes.
[12:41] <alterjsive> I will check the logs next time it happens
[12:41] <alterjsive> if I can reach the machine
[12:42] <alterjsive> IRRC I couldn't ssh into the machine
[13:21] <alterjsive> got a bug here. When I have a machine that has failed in deployment and at the moment has a new state. And I set the dhcp server it's removed again when I start commisioning the machine.
[13:22] <alterjsive> I tried validate the configuration this time.
[13:22] <alterjsive> that seems to work
[13:23] <alterjsive> I will report it if I come across it again
[13:59] <alterjsive> classicsnail: isn't 802.3ad an IEEE standard?
[16:53] <antonym> hello, i'm running 2.9 snap of maas, is there a good quick way to debug the maas grub bootloader or a way to recompile it to edit options?  maas commission is hanging at Booting under MAAS direction on certain broadcom cards on some newer platforms and it's hard to debug... i can get around it by forcing it to use iPXE with snponly.efi, but then find that the code does not create the proper /boot/efi
[16:53] <antonym> partitions because i think the iPXE code path assumes legacy boot only
[20:33] <ltrager> antonym: currently there isn't an easy way. You have to set 'debug="all"' in the grub template but those are stored in the snap and thus set to be read only.
[20:33] <ltrager> antonym: The next version of MAAS will enable GRUB debug mode if MAAS debug mode is enabled.
[20:34] <antonym> i think i found a way, i mounted an edited file outside of the snap to modify the grub template, was able to get into grub to debug now at least
[20:42] <antonym> was having issues with BCM7420s booting on a new Dell R7525, Intels seem to work ok but BCMs just seem to hang and stop
[21:51] <antonym> it looks like it can load up grub ok and the configs remotely, but with debug=all enabled, it fails to retrieve the kernels, fails on kern/disk.c:281: opening 'http,<IP_ADDRESS>:5248' failed