[00:13] <owh> leaf-sheep: Got a TFTP server installed?
[00:14] <leaf-sheep> owh: Yes. I successfully got it to work. But for some reason, I'm not able to access the website (apache2) from the other machine.
[00:15] <leaf-sheep> This is something I'm working on at the moment.  Trying to eliminate all hiccups.
[00:16] <owh> leaf-sheep: I'm unsure what a website has to do with PXE booting.
[00:17] <leaf-sheep> owh: What do you mean? apache2 is needed to export the contents over the web/local network/etc for the network based installer and such.
[00:18] <owh> leaf-sheep: Right, you didn't tell us that part. That is, running the installer :)
[00:21] <leaf-sheep> owh: Okay. Let me break it down.  I can access http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ubuntu/ fine from my laptop.  On the installer, I mark down "<IP_ADDRESS>" for Ubuntu archive mirror hostname.  It does not work.
[00:22] <leaf-sheep> owh: Installer failed to download a file from the mirror... etc.  I know this works.  Ttffff!
[00:22] <leaf-sheep> Unless I'm missing something -- This is plain silly. :)
[00:23] <ivoks> you probably are
[00:23] <ivoks> i had the same issue, and it was my error
[00:23] <owh> Can the PXE booted machine see the network?
[00:23] <ivoks> i don't really remember what it was :(
[00:24] <leaf-sheep> I can boot Ubuntu PXE from the network as a boot choice. (from the same machine).
[00:24] <ivoks> leaf-sheep: tail access and error log on apache
[00:24] <owh> When I say "see the network", I mean, *after* it booted.
[00:24] <leaf-sheep> owh: Oh... DHCP network detected and configured automatically. Yes.
[00:24] <leaf-sheep> ivoks: Okay.
[00:25] <ivoks> installer is probably looking for a file which you don't have or is in the wrong place
[00:26] <leaf-sheep> Ahh I see. "File does not exist: /var/www/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/debian-installer"
[00:27] <owh> :)
[00:33] <ivoks> uh...
[00:33] <ivoks> Apply script for managing patches for debian builts aken from debian kernel-source-2.4.27 package
[00:33] <ivoks> a bit rusty...
[00:38] <RussellAlan> hey
[00:38] <RussellAlan> I'm a bit Rusty
[00:38] <RussellAlan> mostly I'm Russell
[00:41] <bogeyd6> Which tool should I use to clone one hard drive (60gb) to a target drive (500gb). I have a raid 0 and I need to change out the drives and not lose anything.
[00:42] <RussellAlan> Wheres the best place for a newbie to start being a ubunt server admin? I run kubuntu and ubuntu on client side, but I'd like to get more involved.
[00:43] <Jagged> RussellAlan: get an extra machine and put ubuntu-server on it
[00:43] <bogeyd6> RussellAlan you looking to contribute to Ubuntu?
[00:44] <ivoks> virtualization
[00:44] <Deaglebear> hi i have a ubuntu 8.10 server and im lookking to put a counter strike source gaming server on it
[00:44] <ivoks> set up server in virt env and start playing :)
[00:44] <Deaglebear> i know the steps on how to do it but im having trouble doing it through console access only
[00:44] <RussellAlan> bogeyd6:  always.
[00:45] <bogeyd6> !contribute
[00:45] <RussellAlan> I'm looking for a good tutorial site.
[00:45] <bogeyd6> oh you mean you want to setup an ubuntu server
[00:46] <RussellAlan> Well yes, I can do that fine, I'd just like a good site for learning
[00:46] <RussellAlan> I know the best place is here.
[00:46] <RussellAlan> But...
[00:46] <bogeyd6> ohhhh
[00:47] <Jagged> RussellAlan: I'm a big fan of "sink or swim"... if you have some extra hardware, just install it and try to get Apache2, SQL, Samba, Squid, and postfix working
[00:47] <bogeyd6> RussellAlan https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Servers
[00:49] <bogeyd6> its probably best to pick a goal and then work towards it. Such as "I want to host my own family website" or "I would like to use linux to play music at my party"
[00:49] <RussellAlan> Jagged: definitely, so am I
[00:49] <RussellAlan> I've done it all before, this time I'd just like to take a new approach to it.
[00:49] <Jagged> RussellAlan: bogeyd6 said it better... define a goal, and do it.
[00:50] <Jagged> What do you mean?
[00:50] <Deaglebear> hello i have a ubuntu 8.10 server and i am trying to install a counterstrike source gaming server on it i know the steps on how to complete this normally but i currently only have console access and i am getting hung up on some of the steps does someone mind helping
[00:50] <Jagged> If you've done it all before, does that not satisfy your original query?
[00:50] <RussellAlan> It does, but I dunno, I want to recreate the experience
[00:50] <RussellAlan> lol
[00:50] <Jagged> Deaglebear: does cs not have its own channel?
[00:51] <Deaglebear> what do u mean jagged
[00:51] <Deaglebear> i dont think so
[00:51] <Deaglebear> i tried contacting valve support and they said i should come here lol u would know better
[00:51] <Jagged> Deaglebear: #counter-server @ gamesnet.net
[00:51] <Deaglebear> ahh no thats all just normal gamers
[00:52] <Deaglebear> they linked me to the steps
[00:52] <Deaglebear> but all of them included things that i cant do in console or do not know how
[00:52] <Deaglebear> i know it can be done i just dont know how
[00:53] <Jagged> back when I ran a CS beta server it was pretty straightforward... run the binary in a screen
[00:53] <Deaglebear> yes
[00:53] <Deaglebear> thats how i normally do it
[00:53] <Deaglebear> but i do not have access to anything but a  console
[00:53] <Jagged> RussellAlan: have you configured a router before?
[00:53] <Deaglebear> thats where my problem lies
[00:53] <Jagged> RussellAlan: iptables is always fun to deal with
[00:53] <ivoks> Deaglebear: ubuntu server only has console interface
[00:54] <Deaglebear> o ok cool
[00:54] <Deaglebear> lol
[00:54] <ivoks> Deaglebear: that's normal and that's awesome
[00:54] <Deaglebear> even better lol
[00:54] <Deaglebear> ive never worked with the server end on ubuntu before
[00:54] <RussellAlan> lol, i love you all's enthusiasm
[00:54] <Deaglebear> maybe if i have one of u look at the steps of how to do this u can tell me how to make it work in the console?
[00:54] <ivoks> if you'd have shiny gui, you'd still need to open a terminal and type all that installation stuff, probably
[00:58] <Deaglebear> ivoks can u look at these steps and tell me where i am going wrong?
[00:58] <ivoks> it's 2AM here
[00:58] <ivoks> i'd probably miss something
[00:58] <Jagged> Deaglebear: where does it fail?
[00:58] <Jagged> Deaglebear: that's where you're going wrong
[00:59] <Deaglebear> well it doesnt fail
[00:59] <Deaglebear> really
[00:59] <Deaglebear> i mean
[00:59] <Deaglebear> i cant even get started
[00:59] <Deaglebear> the first step is First of all download hldsupdatetool from the VALVe webserver. Make a dir called srcds_l, and save hldsupdatetool in that dir and run it. (Check this out when you have an uncompress error.)
[01:00] <ivoks> first step is to log into your server
[01:00] <Deaglebear> im on that
[01:00] <Deaglebear> already lol
[01:01] <Deaglebear> it says to use these commands but they cant be correct
[01:01] <Deaglebear> mkdir srcds_l
[01:01] <Deaglebear> cd srcds_l
[01:01] <Deaglebear> wget http://www.steampowered.com/download/hldsupdatetool.bin
[01:01] <Deaglebear> chmod +x hldsupdatetool.bin
[01:01] <Deaglebear> ./hldsupdatetool.bin
[01:01] <Deaglebear> ./steam
[01:02] <ivoks> looks ok to me
[01:02] <Deaglebear> ok
[01:02] <Deaglebear> well when i do the chmod thing nothing happens
[01:03] <ivoks> first time using unix/linux?
[01:03] <Deaglebear> first time really diving into the command line
[01:03] <ivoks> if everything is ok, most of the time, unix/linux systems are quiet
[01:03] <Deaglebear> im ok with some of the simple stuff
[01:03] <ivoks> they complain only if something is wrong
[01:04] <Deaglebear> ok now when i do the ./hlds thing it says no such directory
[01:04] <Deaglebear> but i bet i made the stupid mistake i need to not put the . huh
[01:04] <ivoks> chmod turns your file in executable program
[01:05] <ivoks> yes you need
[01:05] <Deaglebear> that still did not work
[01:05] <ivoks> how do you know it didn't?
[01:05] <ivoks> there was no fireworks? :)
[01:06] <Deaglebear> bash: /hldsupdatetool.bin: No such file or directory
[01:06] <ivoks> did you wget it?
[01:06] <Deaglebear> but it downloaded i saw it
[01:06] <Deaglebear> Saving to: `hldsupdatetool.bin'
[01:06] <Deaglebear> 100%[[01:06] <Deaglebear> 2009-10-14 23:57:34 (1.26 MB/s) - `hldsupdatetool.bin' saved [3513408/3513408]
[01:06] <ivoks> ./
[01:06] <ivoks> just copy paste the command
[01:06] <Deaglebear> k
[01:06] <ivoks>  notice the . and the /
[01:07] <jcastro> ivoks: please respond to my mail soon!
[01:07] <Deaglebear> says ./ is a directery
[01:08] <ivoks> i better go to bed or else i might break CoC
[01:08] <phaze74> Is there a command line tool (i.e. non-VNC) to connect to KVM virtual machines?
[01:08] <phaze74> KVM virtual machine console's I should say
[01:11] <tomsdale> bogeyd6: are you still looking for a solution to clone your harddrive
[01:14] <ivoks> zul: !
[01:14] <zul> ivoks: hmm?
[01:14] <ivoks> zul: you haven't applied those changes to dovecot i've sent you?!
[01:15] <zul> ivoks: i havent uploaded a new version
[01:15] <ivoks> oh
[01:15] <ivoks> sorry :)
[01:15] <zul> i can apply the changes to 1.1.x though if you send me your patch again
[01:15] <zul> right after my kid goes to sleep ;)
[01:16] <ivoks> zul: done
[01:16] <zul> ivoks: will be uploaded in the next couple of days i mean hours ;)
[01:16] <ivoks> hehe ok
[01:17] <ivoks> i had a week from hell :/
[01:24] <ivoks> good night
[01:31] <iarp> hey i've run into a problem after installing ubuntu-server 9.04 i don't know how to describe this other then top write out what it says.
[01:32] <iarp> MP-BIOS bug : 8254 timer not connected for IO-APIC
[01:32] <iarp> Gave up waiting for root device.
[01:32] <ivoks> first one is irrelevant
[01:32] <ivoks> real problem is that it didn't found root device
[01:32] <ivoks> that's a disk
[01:33] <iarp> i'm stuck at a (initramfs) prompt
[01:33] <ivoks> how did you partion the disk?
[01:33] <ivoks> did you set up lvm? raid?
[01:33] <iarp> no lvm and didn't need raid its a single disk
[01:34] <iarp> i'll reinstall if it's better to have had lvm done with it
[01:34] <ivoks> that probably won't solve the problem
[01:34] <ivoks> you are in initramfs?
[01:35] <iarp> y
[01:35] <iarp> ya*
[01:35] <ivoks> does ls -d /dev/sd*
[01:35] <ivoks> outputs anything?
[01:35] <iarp> sda5 sda2 sda1 sda
[01:36] <ivoks> so, partitions are there
[01:36] <ivoks> did you set up crypted home partition?
[01:36] <iarp> nope
[01:38] <ivoks> what kind of sata controller is that?
[01:39] <iarp> scsi adaptor
[01:39] <ivoks> which one?
[01:39] <iarp> one sec
[01:40] <ivoks> adaptec?
[01:40] <iarp> adaptec scsi
[01:40] <iarp> bios v3.10
[01:40] <ivoks> adaptec is a bit slow on detecting disks...
[01:41] <ivoks> so what might happened is that initrd gave up on waiting :)
[01:41] <iarp> just read online that you can somehow edit the grub file and make it wait longer
[01:42] <ivoks> then do it :)
[01:42] <tomsdale> ivoks: stupid question - last time I got stuck after grub the UUID in the menu.lst was incorrect.
[01:43] <ivoks> that also could be an issue
[01:43] <ivoks> but i've never heard about wrong UUID
[01:43] <tomsdale> I actually cloned that installation with rsync
[01:44] <ivoks> on another disk?
[01:44] <ivoks> :)
[01:44] <ivoks> every partition has uniq uuid
[01:44] <tomsdale> exactly :-)
[01:44] <ivoks> cloning files (not partitions) with rsync will produce problems :)
[01:45] <mushroomtwo> don't specify uuid?
[01:45] <TimReichhart> could anybody tell me how much space ubuntu server takes up on hard drive? I am just installing LAMP
[01:45] <ivoks> heh
[01:45] <ivoks> my guess would be ~500M
[01:46] <tomsdale> mushroomtwo: could try that but ubuntu defaults into putting the UUID in the grub command list.
[01:46] <ivoks> there's a reason for that
[01:46] <mushroomtwo> how I miss editing grub manually in gentoo.
[01:47] <ivoks> i had a server with SATA and SCSI disk
[01:47] <ivoks> once SATA was sda and on another boot SCSI was sda
[01:48] <tomsdale> I guess depends on which module loads first which might not be predictable all time.
[01:49] <ivoks> and some scsi adapters have irregular scaning time
[01:49] <ivoks> adaptec for example :)
[01:50] <ivoks> anyway...
[01:50] <ivoks> it's 3AM
[01:50] <ivoks> good night
[01:50] <tomsdale> gn8
[01:59] <iarp> i ended up adding rootdelay=90 to the kernal line on the main boot selection and it seems to be fine
[02:09] <generaldisarray> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5241602&CatId=3586    do you guys think this would make a decent chassis for a web/mail server for small biz, 20 or so mail users, moderate web traffic?
[02:12] <generaldisarray> i'm trying to go cheap, obviously
[02:16] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #451801 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "some keys print characters instead of performing their actions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/451801
[02:40] <Sorell> hey guys I have a quick question about Ubuntu cloud
[02:42] <Sorell> If I want to make my own "cloud" system can I use this software without going through anyone else?
[02:42] <Sorell> I don't want anyone else involved but myself
[02:42] <Sorell> I want to run it off my own server and my own connection.
[02:45] <fallous_> anyone happen to know if ubuntu 8.04 server on ec2 has some issues with spontaneous reboots over the course of a few months?  doesn't seem especially load-dependent, but it'll suddenly grind to a halt and then reboot.  only happened twice in the last 8 months
[02:46] <Deaglebear> says ./ is a directery
[02:46] <zoopster> Sorell: short answer yes.
[02:47] <Sorell> cool ty zoopster
[02:47] <Sorell> I have a dual core AMD machine just lying around asking for a purpose.
[02:51] <zoopster> Sorell: looking for some case studies if you are so inclined let me know
[02:51] <Sorell> okay
[02:51] <zoopster> fallous_: have not heard of that...it's the Canonical 8.04 image or Alestic or another?
[02:52] <fallous_> alestic
[02:52] <Sorell> what do I need to do?
[02:54] <fallous_> guess it could be something like lighttpd leaking memory, but that's not an especially unstable webserver
[02:55] <Jagged> Deaglebear: ./ is your current PWD
[02:55] <Jagged> Deaglebear: that is, the directory you are in can always be referenced by ./
[02:56] <Deaglebear> wow
[02:57] <Deaglebear> im pulling my hair out aparently its impossible to do through ssh
[02:57] <Jagged> Deaglebear: I'm sure it is.
[02:57] <Deaglebear> source server and ubuntu server are not happy together
[02:57] <Jagged> possible, that is
[02:57] <Jagged> Deaglebear: what errors are you getting
[02:58] <Deaglebear> i dont even really know
[02:58] <Deaglebear> im extra confused
[02:58] <Deaglebear> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76483.html
[02:58] <Deaglebear> suposidly that will work
[02:58] <Deaglebear> but i cant get it to work at all
[02:58] <Deaglebear> im familiar with linux basics and thats it ive setup cs servers prolly 100 times and never had this much trouble
[02:59] <Jagged> Deaglebear: paste your ssh output to pastebin
[02:59] <Deaglebear> but im stuck with only being able to use ssh considering its the server edition
[02:59] <Jagged> Deaglebear: so what is the problem then
[02:59] <Deaglebear> so im extremely confused
[02:59] <Deaglebear> i dont even know what to paste theres nothing there
[03:00] <Deaglebear> it all goes wrong when i download the hlds thing
[03:00] <Deaglebear> i get no error
[03:00] <Deaglebear> but when i do ./hldsupdatetool.bin
[03:00] <Deaglebear> it says it isnt there
[03:00] <Jagged> did you chmod +x the bin?
[03:00] <Deaglebear> yea
[03:01] <Deaglebear> and says nothing afterward
[03:01] <Jagged> ls -lah | grep hlds
[03:01] <Jagged> anything with that?
[03:01] <Deaglebear> hmm
[03:01] <Deaglebear> one sec
[03:01] <Deaglebear> lemme go through the steps again and try that when i get there
[03:01] <Jagged> you've downloaded it with weget already, correct?
[03:02] <Deaglebear> ya but i have whats called a slice
[03:02] <Deaglebear> from slicehost
[03:02] <Deaglebear> and i reset my slice
[03:02] <zoopster> fallous_: do post something to alestic...not sure where, but Eric is very helpful
[03:02] <Deaglebear> so one sec
[03:03] <fallous_> yeah
[03:05] <Deaglebear> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 3.4M Sep  2  2005 hldsupdatetool.bin
[03:05] <Deaglebear> thats what i got
[03:06] <Jagged> Deaglebear: okay, can you chown youruser:youruser hldsupdatetool.bin
[03:06] <Jagged> ?
[03:06] <Deaglebear> what?
[03:06] <Deaglebear> sorry im not super good at all this yet
[03:06] <Jagged> your account username
[03:06] <Jagged> chown name:name hldsupdatetool.bin
[03:07] <Deaglebear> i shud type that?
[03:07] <Jagged> yes
[03:07] <Jagged> it may not let you
[03:07] <Deaglebear> k
[03:07] <Deaglebear> it just went to the nextline
[03:07] <Deaglebear> so i assume it worked
[03:08] <Jagged> yes
[03:08] <Deaglebear> ok so now try to chmod again?
[03:08] <Jagged> ./hldsupdatetool.bin
[03:08] <Jagged> no
[03:08] <Deaglebear> o
[03:08] <Deaglebear> ok
[03:09] <Deaglebear> no such file or directory
[03:09] <Deaglebear> same as before
[03:09] <Jagged> hm
[03:09] <Deaglebear> ya this is why i am so confused lol
[03:09] <zoopster> ls it again Deaglebear
[03:10] <Deaglebear> k
[03:10] <zoopster> if it's owned by root a user won't be able to change it w/o using sudo
[03:10] <Deaglebear> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 3.4M Sep  2  2005 hldsupdatetool.bin
[03:10] <Deaglebear> so then how do i work it with sudo
[03:11] <Jagged> well... if you're paying for a shell account, you have no sude
[03:11] <Deaglebear> i guess im confused where its messing up
[03:11] <Jagged> *sudo
[03:11] <zoopster> right...so two options Deaglebear "sudo ./hlds....bin" or sudo chown ...
[03:11] <zoopster> but he has a slice...it's not a vps
[03:11] <Jagged> ah
[03:11] <zoopster> haven't used slicehost, so that was a question
[03:12] <Deaglebear> well its a vps but i do have sudo
[03:12] <Jagged> okay
[03:12] <Deaglebear> i mean im loged in as root
[03:12] <Jagged> wat?
[03:12] <Jagged> do you have a user account?
[03:12] <zoopster> who shows you logged in as root?
[03:12] <Jagged> Deaglebear: whoami
[03:12] <Deaglebear> root...
[03:13] <Deaglebear> it said i had to put programs on as root or it wudnt work
[03:13] <Jagged> okay
[03:13] <Deaglebear> because its a slice
[03:13] <Jagged> hm
[03:13] <Jagged> allright
[03:13] <Jagged> where are you in the filesystem?
[03:13] <Jagged> pwd
[03:14] <Jagged> will tell you that
[03:14] <Deaglebear> root@servername:/srcds#
[03:14] <Deaglebear> thats where i am suposed to be
[03:14] <Deaglebear> according to the guide
[03:14] <Jagged> and "pwd" gives you what?
[03:15] <Deaglebear> ./srcds
[03:15] <Deaglebear> without the .
[03:16] <Jagged> ls -lah / | grep srcds
[03:16] <Deaglebear> nothing
[03:16] <Jagged> it should show you something
[03:17] <Jagged> drwxr-xr-x   7 root root 4.0K 2009-10-13 22:54 home
[03:17] <Jagged> something like that
[03:17] <Deaglebear> it showed me nothing
[03:17] <Jagged> weird
[03:17] <Jagged> anywho
[03:17] <Jagged> cd /
[03:17] <zoopster> why not just use the full path to the file Jagged
[03:17] <Deaglebear> there
[03:17] <Deaglebear> ionno why
[03:17] <Deaglebear> it was diff the second time i did it
[03:17] <Deaglebear> but
[03:17] <Deaglebear> lol
[03:17] <Jagged> chmod +x scrds
[03:17] <Deaglebear> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4.0K Oct 15 02:04 srcds
[03:18] <Jagged> zoopster: I was trying to see if the dir had execute permissions... albeit without +x he shouldn't be able to cd into it... it should be checked
[03:18] <Jagged> okay
[03:19] <Deaglebear> as far as the chmod
[03:19] <Deaglebear> it did nothing
[03:20] <Jagged> try: /srcds/hldsupdatetool.bin
[03:20] <Jagged> (I'm assuming that's where the bin is)
[03:21] <Deaglebear> no such file or directory
[03:21] <Deaglebear> and yes it should be there
[03:21] <zoopster> wierd
[03:21] <Jagged> hrm
[03:21] <Deaglebear> if i was in the srcds when i did wget thats where it shud be right?
[03:22] <Jagged> updatedb && locate hldsupdatetool.bin
[03:22] <Deaglebear> no command found
[03:23] <Deaglebear> for updatedb
[03:23] <Jagged> boo
[03:23] <Deaglebear> or locate
[03:23] <Jagged> cd /srcds and wget it again
[03:24] <Deaglebear> 100%[[03:25] <Jagged> ls -lah ./ | grep hlds
[03:25] <FFForever> Deaglebear, thats one hell of a connection
[03:25] <Deaglebear> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 3.4M Sep  2  2005 hldsupdatetool.bin
[03:25] <Deaglebear> -rw-r--r--  1 root root 3.4M Sep  2  2005 hldsupdatetool.bin.1
[03:26] <Jagged> chmod +x hlds*1
[03:26] <Deaglebear> k
[03:26] <Deaglebear> nothing
[03:26] <Jagged> good
[03:27] <Jagged> ./hldsupdatetool.bin.1
[03:27] <Deaglebear> no such file or directory
[03:27] <Jagged> http://www.cstrike-planet.com/tutorial/1/5   <- I just followed these instructions and everything worked on this machine
[03:27] <Jagged> Deaglebear: you need the .
[03:28] <Jagged> Are you using the .?
[03:28] <Deaglebear> yupp
[03:28] <Jagged> okay
[03:28] <Jagged> pastebing your ssh session
[03:28] <Jagged> *pastebin
[03:28] <Deaglebear> k
[03:29] <Deaglebear> http://pastebin.com/m2e948092
[03:31] <Jagged> Deaglebear: rm hlds*
[03:31] <Jagged> Deaglebear: use this url -> http://www.cstrike-planet.com/dls/hldsupdatetool.bin
[03:31] <Deaglebear> k
[03:31] <Deaglebear> one sec
[03:33] <Deaglebear> i used that url
[03:33] <Deaglebear> same thing
[03:34] <Jagged> okay
[03:35] <Jagged> ln -s /srcds/hldsupdatetool.bin /usr/bin/hldsupdatetool.bin
[03:35] <Jagged> hldsupdatetool.bin
[03:36] <Deaglebear> ln -s /srcds/hldsupdatetool.bin /usr/bin/hldsupdatetool.bin
[03:37] <Deaglebear> oops
[03:37] <Deaglebear> crap
[03:37] <Jagged> that's all one line btw
[03:37] <Jagged> (don't know how wide your irc client is)
[03:38] <Deaglebear> same thing
[03:38] <Deaglebear> no such file or directory
[03:39] <Jagged> This is really weird
[03:39] <tomsdale> I wrote an rsync bash script. If the script issues the command I receive an error however if I copy an echo of the command into the commandline it works.
[03:39] <Deaglebear> its prolly something im doing i just dont know why im doing it wrong
[03:40] <Jagged> Deaglebear: /bin/sh /srcds/hldsupdatetool.bin
[03:40] <tomsdale> The error is: rsync: link_stat "/home/ubuntu/<IP_ADDRESS>:/." failed: No such file or directory (2)
[03:41] <tomsdale> for some reasons rsync puts the current directory  upfront.
[03:41] <Deaglebear> ./srcds/hldsupdatetool.bin: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[03:44] <Deaglebear> ./srcds/hldsupdatetool.bin: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[03:44] <Jagged> I saw that
[03:44] <Deaglebear> lol o ok
[03:44] <Deaglebear> sry :( im just a lil antsy ive been wrkin on this for 7 hrs
[03:47] <Jagged> Deaglebear: find / -name libc.so.6
[03:48] <Deaglebear> ./lib/libc.so.6
[03:51] <Jagged> Deaglebear: uname -a
[03:51] <Jagged> aha!
[03:51] <Deaglebear> lol
[03:51] <Jagged> Deaglebear: this should fix it
[03:51] <Deaglebear> so not posting that
[03:51] <Deaglebear> oo
[03:51] <Deaglebear> yay!
[03:51] <Jagged> apt-get install lib32gcc1
[03:51] <Jagged> lemme know when that finishes
[03:52] <Deaglebear> done
[03:52] <Jagged> now run it
[03:52] <Jagged>  ./hldsyaddayadda
[03:53]  * Jagged crosses fingers
[03:53] <Deaglebear> ur amazing :D
[03:53] <Jagged> fawesome
[03:53] <Jagged> You're on a 64 bit server
[03:53] <Deaglebear> lol
[03:53] <Deaglebear> nice!
[03:53] <Jagged> uname -a would have shown that
[03:53] <Jagged> anywho...
[03:53] <Jagged> http://forums.srcds.com/viewtopic/12428
[03:54] <Jagged> 2nd related link under the 1st google hit
[03:54] <Deaglebear> man
[03:54] <Deaglebear> i googled for ever
[03:54] <Deaglebear> lol
[03:54] <Jagged> "hldsupdatetool.bin no such file or directory"
[03:54] <Jagged> is what I googled
[03:54] <Deaglebear> ty tho very much <3 i apreciate it alot
[03:57] <Jagged> VK7HSE: what do you use as a TNC?
[03:58] <bogeyd6> generaldisarray only 20 users?
[03:59] <VK7HSE> Jagged: well... PK-232MBX on HF MFJ-1270b on VHF TinyTrak4D on ISS PK-232 on 6m and KPC-9612 for satellite work and finally a TinyTrak4 in the car! ...
[03:59] <Jagged> Yeah, I just got to reading the rest of your QRZ entry
[03:59] <Jagged> KE5BVC here
[03:59] <Jagged> I have an MFJ 1278B, but the most I've ever used it for is RTYY
[03:59] <Jagged> *RTTY
[04:00] <VK7HSE> Ha! well don't bother reading the TT4 wiki I'm currently re-building it after i stuffed the SQL tables! :(
[04:00] <Jagged> I don't do much on HF right now though... stuck in an apartment at the moment =\
[04:02] <VK7HSE> I only work 40m APRS... and I'm a rare contact on voice ;)
[04:02] <Jagged> Gotcha
[04:02] <bogeyd6> ham radio?
[04:02] <Jagged> I've been really wanting to try psk31, I spent a few hours operating psk for field day 2004 on a friend's rig.
[04:03] <Jagged> I've got an old Ten Tec Triton IV, I don't know if I can get it to do psk =\
[04:05] <VK7HSE> bogeyd6: yeah I spent about 6 months using psk31 back in 2006, made some really exotic contacts into parts of the world I though I'd never get to from here! (Tasmania, Australia)
[04:06] <VK7HSE> Jagged: as long as it has some type of interfacing you should, or as a last resort you could use the Mic. in but I really don't recommend that! ;)
[04:07] <Jagged> VK7HSE: it has mic and key inputs
[04:07] <mobi-sheep> Guys, I'm having problem with my mom's computer. Something went haywire and now she does not have eth0 working. It's an unexplained situation for me. Something went wrong with ips, I suppose. I have IP address, <IP_ADDRESS>, it is shown on ifconfig and the router.  But I'm not able to ping, Google, or any website. Pidgin included. How can I resolve my mom's computer? :(
[04:07] <VK7HSE> Oh! ...
[04:07] <Jagged> VK7HSE: http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/735
[04:08] <iarp> what is the benefit of setting up LVM during installation for ubuntu-server
[04:09] <VK7HSE> iarp: if you wish to expand you storage capacity at a later stage...
[04:10] <iarp> soo if i had 3 hdd's installed, could i potentially expand the main partition across the 3 similar to a raid type thing
[04:10] <Jagged> you could also do the same with mdadm
[04:11] <VK7HSE> not RAID... no!
[04:11] <VK7HSE> RAID is RADI! LVM is LVM !!
[04:11] <Jagged> indeed
[04:12] <Jagged> you can also have an lvm on top of a raid
[04:12] <iarp> but does it allow me to expand it across the drives
[04:12] <Jagged> :S
[04:12] <Jagged> iarp: yes
[04:12] <iarp> ok ty
[04:12] <Jagged> iarp: lvm can function like a JBOD
[04:13] <VK7HSE> ^^ that's the description I was trying to think of ;)
[04:13] <uvirtbot`> VK7HSE: Error: "^" is not a valid command.
[04:13] <VK7HSE> ^ that's the description I was trying to thingk of ;)
[04:13] <uvirtbot`> VK7HSE: Error: "that's" is not a valid command.
[04:13] <iarp> lol
[04:14] <Jagged> lol
[04:14] <VK7HSE> Hmm... looks like this chan don't like control charters!
[04:15]  * VK7HSE That's weird when a person joins the channel, asks a question, then leaves 2.5 seconds after posting!  :-/
[04:16] <Jagged> indeed
[04:17] <Jagged> Sounded like a dns problem
[04:17] <Jagged> I just didn't bother reading it previously
[04:17] <VK7HSE> yeah like wise! why how rude of me ;)
[04:25] <leaf-sheep> Jagged: Do explain. :3
[04:26] <Jagged> leaf-sheep: explaining what?
[04:26] <Jagged> ohh the dns
[04:26] <leaf-sheep> Jagged: The DNS problem.  The solution?
[04:27] <Jagged> can you ping the gateway?
[04:27] <leaf-sheep> All the machines in this house works fine except for my mom's computer. It just went broke for no reason and my mom does not know the account or the root account password.
[04:27] <leaf-sheep> I'll try.
[04:27] <Jagged> and can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:28] <leaf-sheep> I was downstairs -- ssh -Y to my laptop... hence the second account. ;)
[04:29] <Jagged> :)
[04:29] <leaf-sheep> Gateway is <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[04:29] <Jagged> something like that
[04:29] <Jagged> depends on your network
[04:30] <Jagged> (could be <IP_ADDRESS>)
[04:30] <leaf-sheep> Jagged: <IP_ADDRESS> -- FINE.  <IP_ADDRESS> -- FAIL.
[04:30] <Jagged> traceroute to 64.233
[04:30] <Jagged> (pastebin it)
[04:31] <leaf-sheep> What is the traceroute --to-- 64.233 command? I came in here because I know you guys know your stuffs.
[04:31] <Jagged> traceroute <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:32] <Jagged> if you don't have traceroute, try tacepath
[04:32] <Jagged> *tracepath
[04:33] <leaf-sheep> Jagged: Wait...
[04:33] <leaf-sheep> I didn't have traceroute package installed so I tried and install.... it worked.
[04:33] <leaf-sheep> I got the package.
[04:33] <Jagged> lol
[04:33] <leaf-sheep> So obviously I got internet back.
[04:33] <Jagged> indeed
[04:33] <leaf-sheep> I'm going to check downstairs... to ensure. :)
[04:35] <leaf-sheep> Jagged: It worked. ;3
[04:35] <leaf-sheep> I did nothing!  DNS issues!
[04:36] <Jagged> leaf-sheep: are you using your ISP's DNS servers?
[04:36] <Jagged> leaf-sheep: I've had excellent results using <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS> for my DNS servers
[04:50] <leaf-sheep> Sorry, I'm back.
[04:50] <leaf-sheep> I had a puppy poop duty.
[04:50] <leaf-sheep> Jagged: I'm not sure what you're talking about. I use a router.
[04:52] <Deaglebear> well jagged the server updated and all but no dice on getting the server to go lol
[05:29] <wizardslovak> hello people
[05:30] <wizardslovak> does anyone knows iRedMail
[05:30] <med\weed> hola
[05:30] <med\weed> !ask
[05:32] <twb> I thought it was:
[05:32] <twb> !anyone > wizardslovak
[05:33] <wizardslovak> ok any info about iredmail ?
[05:33] <wizardslovak> what do you people think about it?
[05:33] <twb> wizardslovak: never heard of it.
[05:35] <wizardslovak> damn i cant do postfix-dovecot
[05:35] <wizardslovak> so i am loooking for easier alternative
[05:41] <wizardslovak> what email server should i use so mysql would store my users
[06:02] <wizardslovak> people how do i find if i have saslauthd installed?
[06:03] <twb> wizardslovak: why do you want to use MySQL?  It's junk.
[06:04] <twb> wizardslovak: you say "I can't do postfix/dovecot" -- have you tried asking for help with *specific* issues?
[06:05] <wizardslovak> i tried and nobody helped
[06:05] <twb> !smart questions > wizardslovak
[06:05] <twb> wizardslovak: have you read this article? http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Essays/smart-questions.html
[06:10] <wizardslovak> when i type "/etc/init.d/saslauthd start" i am getting "no such file or directory"
[06:10] <wizardslovak> but i got postfix installed
[06:13] <ScottK> wizardslovak: If you look at the Ubuntu Server Guide, I think it explains how to set this stuff up
[06:13] <wizardslovak> ok i got it working
[06:13] <wizardslovak> thx
[06:24] <wizardslovak> so i configured postfi but i am getting error
[06:24] <wizardslovak> Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable
[06:24] <wizardslovak> i tried to look on google but nothing
[06:40] <wizardslovak> ok now i am getting some error with groups
[06:40] <wizardslovak> how do i check groups?
[07:16] <wizardslovak> ok now its weird
[07:16] <wizardslovak> i cannot login into my squirrelmail
[07:16] <wizardslovak> second i send mail from outside and i got it
[07:16] <wizardslovak> but i cant send it outside
[07:28] <twb> 16:24 <wizardslovak> Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable
[07:28] <twb> wizardslovak: try looking in /var/log for a more detailed error report.
[07:28] <twb> wizardslovak: you can also ask e.g. #postfix about postfix-specific problems.
[07:31] <wizardslovak> how do you guys remove software?
[07:32] <wizardslovak> i want to remove postfix but apt-get remove postfix says postfix is not installed
[07:32] <wizardslovak> i mean i want to remove dovecot
[07:32] <twb> Maybe you have dovecot configured, but not installed.  That is, only its config files are installed.
[07:32] <twb> "aptitude remove" will put packages into this state.
[07:33] <twb> To remove the config files (including your changes), you can use "aptitude purge".
[07:33] <hads> which you can remote easily with aptitude purge
[07:33] <hads> (what he said)
[07:33] <wizardslovak> thx
[07:34] <wizardslovak> damns econd time same error
[07:35] <wizardslovak> damn i dont know why i cant make it work
[07:35] <wizardslovak> i sit on it for last 4 hours
[07:38] <wizardslovak> damn i will even pay so someone would show me and help me
[07:49] <twb> wizardslovak: no one is helping because your questions are vague, and it's not a productive use of our (volunteer) time to get accurate information out of you.
[07:50] <twb> wizardslovak: this is what the Smart Questions HOWTO is intended to help you with
[07:50] <wizardslovak> lol
[07:50] <twb> Of course you can pay people, but this isn't the best channel to arrange that.
[07:51] <wizardslovak> lol
[07:51] <wizardslovak> i didnt wrote it to lure people
[07:51] <twb> If you want to pay someone, you should look up your local linux user group (LUG), and ask them to provide you with a list of contractors.
[07:51] <wizardslovak> that will be my lasssst option
[07:56] <wizardslovak> hmm
[07:56] <wizardslovak> i gotta find someone who will guide me heh
[07:59] <twb> wizardslovak: talk to your LUG
[08:03] <showy> hi, my 2 bind9 dns servers , are working properly, but the the responses given by them to the clients always contain authotirative information about TLD like .com .net pointing to the ROOT-SERVERS ?
[08:03] <showy> why is this happening ?
[08:04] <wizardslovak> i will
[08:04] <wizardslovak> they got meeting next week
[08:07] <showy> ??
[08:56] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #451946 in samba (main) "package samba-common 2:3.3.2-1ubuntu3.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/451946
[10:45] <Wujo_of_newton> I need help with setting up ircd-ircu, I am not sure where the config file is that i am supposed to edit to add the parameters to for my local configuration
[10:46] <Wujo_of_newton> I am using ubuntu hardy
[10:46] <Wujo_of_newton> 8,04,3
[10:48] <twb> Wujo_of_newton: config files are required by policy to be placed in /etc/.
[10:48] <Wujo_of_newton> yes, I checked the ircd folder in etc
[10:49] <Wujo_of_newton> and updated the config file i found there
[10:49] <Wujo_of_newton> but it is still showing up as localhost.localdomain when users log onto the irc server
[10:57] <Wujo_of_newton> Or would I have to restart the service to get the changes to show?
[10:59] <jpds> Wujo_of_newton: Maybe /etc/ircd/ircd.motd and yeah, restart might help.
[11:00] <Wujo_of_newton> Okay I will try a restart, and yeah, I edited the message of the day file
[11:33] <th0mz> doest anybody remeber the name of an ncurse tool like top but in color ?
[11:33] <th0mz> cant find it
[11:33] <th0mz> (cant remember the name)
[11:33] <th0mz> i'm doing jmeter load test
[11:39] <KurtKraut> th0mz, htop
[11:45] <th0mz> tx
[12:30] <mesut> hello,getting 403 forbidden messages on aptitude update, on server 804
[12:30] <mesut> what may be causing this ?
[12:36] <szczym> Helo im planing to install ufw on production web server with no physical access, only ssh. Here are commands im planing to issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/293862/ my question is: will it broke my connection to server ? thanx for help
[12:42] <Reepicheep> szczym: I shouldn't break your connection to the server when you setup ufw
[12:42] <szczym> thanx
[12:42] <Reepicheep> as long as you allow for ssh
[12:42] <Reepicheep> I usually set it up a bit different than that though
[12:42] <Reepicheep> after installing it just run "dpkg-reconfigure ufw"
[12:43] <Reepicheep> enable it and select ssh as being allowed
[12:43] <szczym> but just instaltion it will not enable by defaoult ?
[12:43] <szczym> i have only ssh access so the for im worring
[12:44] <Reepicheep> it won't start ufw until you run "ufw enable" or /etc/init.d/ufw start" or the like
[12:44] <szczym> aha, thanx Reepicheep
[13:42] <Omahn> Hello all. I've backported a trivial 2 line patch to unattended-upgrades in hardy so that the emails sent contain the hostname in the subject line.
[13:42] <Omahn> I have a debdiff ready to provide but I'm not sure what the next step would be. Create a bug agains't unattend-upgrades and attach the debdiff?
[13:43] <pmatulis> Omahn: yes, there is a checkbox on LP bug pages that indicates a patch is attached
[13:43] <Omahn> Ah, cool. I'll submit it shortly then. Thanks.
[13:44] <pmatulis> Omahn: if you are very interested in continuing then you can ask your work to be sponsored by a MOTU
[13:44] <pmatulis> Omahn: and maybe consider becoming one yourself
[13:44] <Omahn> pmatulis: I would be interested. Who/where should I ask about sponsorship?
[13:44] <pmatulis> Omahn: one moment
[13:45] <pmatulis> Omahn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[13:45] <Omahn> pmatulis: Thanks
[13:45] <jcastro> Daviey: test results on the wiki page please, anything you've got would be great
[13:50] <twb> vga=788 works on my 8.04 server.  video=vesafb:1024x768-8 doesn't.  Please explain!
[13:51] <Daviey> jcastro: yep!  Throwing it up today.
[13:51] <jcastro> Daviey: we'll need another round come RC as well
[13:51] <jcastro> Daviey: thanks!
[13:51] <jcastro> Daviey: have you found anything that needed to be fixed?
[13:52] <Daviey> jcastro: only one thing, but that was already being worked on.
[13:52] <Daviey> There is something else i found, but that is a generic -server issue - rather than AWS
[13:53] <jcastro> Daviey: I guess that's better than nothing
[13:53] <Daviey> surely, nothing is better? :P
[13:53] <jcastro> Daviey: for UDS I would like to have a session on how to test AWS better
[13:54] <Daviey> jcastro: i think that is a great idea, i'm sure kirland would like to share ec2 images testing framework in there also.
[14:01] <twb> Never mind, I think I was using the wrong bootloader
[14:02] <twb> But then vesafb says "unknown parameter: mode"
[14:05] <zul> jcastro: you could automate the testing with a user-data script
[14:05] <jcastro> zul: already got that down!
[14:05] <zul> jcastro: its so much easier isnt it ;)
[14:06] <jcastro> no, I mean, I have "get scripts" written down
[14:06] <jcastro> I don't have any
[14:06] <jcastro> why, do you have some?
[14:07] <zul> jcastro: i kind of do i have to rummage around
[14:08] <jcastro> zul: if you do that would be great
[14:08] <jcastro> zul: our test cases are kind of simple and stuff, I don't think they're really helpful
[14:09]  * twb gives up and goes back to vga=
[14:09] <zul> jcastro: yeah but you want simple testcases just to make sure that it is up and functional, i had scripts at one point to check if the mountpoints are correct, etc
[14:10] <jcastro> zul: ok, if that's the goal then I guess that's fine
[14:23] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #373194 in minicom (main) "In Ubuntu 9.04 minicom is not opening a saved ports" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/373194
[14:37] <detrate> I'm trying to mount a and sftp at boot with sshfs.  I have passwordless authentication and I was able to mount just fine with >> sshfs user@host:/folder /home/me/folder
[14:37] <detrate> I added an entry to fstab and when I do >> sudo mount -a << it asks me for the password
[14:38] <xperia> hello to all. i am trying to set up a virtual host for a domain. but for some reason it wont work. everytime i call the domain i am getting the content of /var/www and not of /var/www/myvirtualhost
[14:38] <detrate> what have you done so far xperia?
[14:39] <detrate> and what OS are you running?
[14:39] <xperia> this here is my host file in /etc/apache2/sites-available http://pastebin.com/d7f4ef204
[14:40] <xperia> ubuntu server interpid
[14:40] <detrate> did you >> sudo a2ensite <sitename? ?
[14:40] <xperia> think no but i will just execute it
[14:41] <detrate> looks like *:80 is catching everything
[14:42] <xperia> yeah i have the feeling the two host files have a conflict but i dont know how to resolve them. will try if it works with your command in a few seconds
[14:42] <detrate> here is a minimal example of what you need for a file called "stromer.allianz.ch.vu" in sites-available: http://pastebin.com/m5dc89d04
[14:43] <detrate> it doesn't NEED to be called that
[14:43] <detrate> but it's easier for reference
[14:43] <detrate> then you would do >> sudo a2ensite stromer.allianz.ch.vu
[14:43] <detrate> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[14:44] <xperia> i had one like this based on the apache guys http://pastebin.com/d64946c34
[14:44] <xperia> but the apache didnt want to start anymore
[14:45] <detrate> check your error logs
[14:45] <xperia> so i have replaced it with the ubuntu original file again
[14:45] <detrate> you don't need the first 6 lines either
[14:45] <detrate> you're creating another file though, I hope
[14:45] <detrate> not replacing the contents of default
[14:46] <xperia> trying your tips just
[14:48] <xperia> yeaaaaahhh  it wooooorrrrrkkkkssss
[14:48] <xperia> detrate thank you a looooottttttt
[14:48] <detrate> ;-P np
[14:50] <aubre> with the latest eucalyptus builds has anyone had success in attaching SC volumes to instances?
[14:51] <aubre> and is there any sc-specific documentation available?
[14:51] <aubre> right now I'm using amazon's info and translating ec2 to euca in the commands
[15:07] <reya276> Can anyone help me resolve an internet connection issue?
[15:07] <twb> !anyone > reya276
[15:07] <reya276> ok
[15:08] <reya276> How can I get internet connection for my server?
[15:08] <aubre> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/452185
[15:08] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 452185 in eucalyptus "can't access SC volumes in a UEC instance" [Undecided,New]
[15:09] <reya276> I already configured my /etc/network/interfaces file and restarted the service but nothing, I have local network access to the server but I can't go out to the web from the server and none of the websites on the server are showing
[15:11] <sub> reya276: Have you configured DNS (/etc/resolv.conf) on the server?
[15:11] <reya276> sub: yes I did that as well but nothing
[15:12] <twb> nsswitch.conf, too
[15:12] <aubre> for some reason when I reboot my dhcpd server it doesn't autostart, and I've done a update-rc.d dhcpd3-server - is there a new way to do this in karmic server?
[15:12] <twb> Oops, wrong person :-)
[15:12] <aubre> update-rc.d dhcpd3server defaults I mean
[15:12] <twb> aubre: update-rc.d takes a lot of arguments...
[15:14] <aubre> twb: I understand but usually all I've had to do it update-rc.d servername defaults
[15:14] <reya276> sub: the one thing that is weird is that I get this msg when I restart the network service "RTNETLINK answers: No such process"
[15:14] <aubre> twb: and when I start it manually after the reboot it starts fine
[15:14] <twb> aubre: congratulations, that's a fantastic way to cripple your boot process.
[15:15] <reya276> sub: and then I get this "* if-up.d/mountnfs[eth0]: waiting for interface eth1 before doing NFS mounts"
[15:15] <twb> calling update-rc.d with "defaults" makes it run the service at S20, which is only correct for very, very lucky services.
[15:15] <aubre> twb: well I'd be happy to do it another way if I was enlightened on the proper way to do things
[15:15] <aubre> twb: hmm I didn't know that
[15:16] <twb> rcconf provides a simple checkbox GUI for services on-or-off
[15:16] <aubre> twb: thanks, I'll check it out
[15:17] <twb> Note that this problem becomes less predictable (but possibly more correct) if you're running something that has insserv installed by default, which AFAIK to date is only Debian/testing, but might include e.g. 10.04.
[15:17] <twb> aubre: as for restoring the correct start/stop points for your existing dhcpd3, I think you can best achieve this by rm'ing /etc/rc?.d/[SK][0-9][0-9]dhcpd3 and then doing dpkg-reconfigure dhcpd3
[15:18] <aubre> twb: thanks again
[15:21] <aubre> twb: if you'll humor me, how does upstart figure into all of this?
[15:23] <mathiaz> smoser: hi!
[15:23] <mathiaz> smoser: did you get a change to look at bug 451881?
[15:23] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 451881 in ec2-init "ssh public key fingerprint not available on console" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/451881
[15:23] <smoser> gar
[15:23] <smoser> no. i'd not seen it.
[15:24] <smoser> mathiaz, you've any idea where the console  messages are going on uec ?
[15:25] <mathiaz> smoser: nope
[15:25] <smoser> this kind of sucks
[15:25] <mathiaz> smoser: is the ssh key showing up correclty on ec2?
[15:25] <smoser> because we fixed the issue for ec2 basically by making /dev/console == /dev/xvc0
[15:25] <smoser> and boot messages go to /dev/console
[15:26] <mathiaz> smoser: well - uec runs under kvm
[15:26] <smoser> right.
[15:26] <mathiaz> smoser: I don't know where the console message go
[15:26] <smoser> so our fix didn't affect this , because they're different kernels
[15:26] <smoser> but
[15:26] <twb> Surely you can also override it with e.g. console=/dev/ttyS0 on the CLI?
[15:27] <smoser> i was just going to say that.
[15:27] <smoser> in ec2 we can't
[15:27] <twb> Don't forget that if you have "quiet", there are basically no messages printed.
[15:27] <smoser> you get no control over such a thing
[15:27] <twb> smoser: I guess you have config.old, then -)
[15:27] <twb> :-)
[15:27] <smoser> but i'm not sure we generally would want to do that for uec
[15:28] <smoser> maybe i wasn't clear.
[15:28] <twb> I'm sorry if I'm making matters worse -- I'm not too lucid just now
[15:28] <smoser> so in ec2, we dont get to control the kernel command line, but we patched the kernel such that its console is essentially /dev/xvc0.
[15:29] <smoser> in uec our images dont get control over the kernel command line either
[15:29] <smoser> *but* , there we can *could* "change the cloud" to suit our liking
[15:29] <smoser> mathiaz, do you get any boot messages using the eucalyptus provied images ?
[15:30] <mathiaz> smoser: I do get boot messages
[15:31] <mathiaz> smoser: with the current uec images
[15:31] <mathiaz> smoser: the ssh fingerprint are *not* part of it
[15:31] <smoser> the other option, is to change syslogd to write to _correct_place_. that is what matthiaz suggested when we weren't getting console output on ec2 (bug 431103 comment 3)
[15:32] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 431103 in linux-ec2 "ssh host key fingerprint no longer available in the console log" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/431103
[15:32] <smoser> mathiaz, you get "userspace" output ?
[15:32] <smoser> can you pastebin what you get ?
[15:34] <mathiaz> smoser: http://people.canonical.com/~mathiaz/console.output
[15:35] <smoser> wouldn't pastebin have been easier ?
[15:35] <smoser> if you weren't aware of it, i use 'pastebinit' quite often
[15:37] <zul> mathiaz: shouldnt you able to get console with uec with the ec2-get-console-output couldnt you?
[15:38] <mathiaz> zul: I was using euca-get-console-ouput
[15:38] <zul> ah same thing I guess ;)
[15:39] <dholbach> hola!
[15:40] <smoser> so it would appear to me that you're not getting syslog messages there.
[15:40] <mathiaz> dholbach: yo!
[15:40] <dholbach> I have a problem with a vserver I upgraded to karmic
[15:40] <smoser> either that, or, we're looking at a bootlog that is not "first boot"
[15:40] <dholbach> and upstart
[15:40] <dholbach> does anybody of you know anything about that?
[15:41] <dholbach> I can't  "sudo reboot" , can't  "sudo start/stop/restart <service>"  etc.
[15:41] <dholbach> and some daemons already dropped old-style init scripts
[15:41] <dholbach> so I don't have cron/rsyslog running :)
[15:41] <dholbach> and can't start them without running    sudo cron &
[15:41] <dholbach> or something
[15:42] <ogra> iirc you should be able to run "exec /sbin/init"
[15:42] <ogra> that should give you the upstart socket
[15:42] <dholbach> daniel@vubuntu:~$ sudo restart rsyslog
[15:42] <dholbach> restart: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused
[15:42] <dholbach> daniel@vubuntu:~$
[15:43] <ogra> though indeed you likely need bits and pieces in initramfs which might not be there on a vserver where you dont have access to kernel and initramfs
[15:43] <ogra> (mountall comes to mind)
[15:43] <dholbach> bah
[15:43] <dholbach> that makes karmic a bit unusable in vserver instances :(
[15:44] <ogra> well, talk to keybuk ...
[15:44] <dholbach> tried it - doesn't respond :)
[15:44] <ogra> right, i saw that
[15:44] <ogra> but he might be the only one with an accurate answer
[15:45] <dholbach> ok
[15:45] <dholbach> just thought you guys might know something
[15:46] <ogra> well, i know it fails for my ARM users that use self breeded kernels and initramfs'es
[15:46] <ogra> (not using update-initramfs)
[15:47] <smoser> mathiaz, can you verify that your console log is "first boot" ?
[15:51] <twb> Anybody dealt with SATA on ICH10 southbridges before?
[15:51] <twb> I have two (nominally) identical hosts here, both running 8.04.3.
[15:51] <twb> One can see that AHCI should be used for the ICH10, and can see the SATA drives.
[15:52] <twb> The other can't, and manually "modprobe ahci"ing didn't seem to help.
[15:58] <Ytxx> How do I enable the a network with Ubuntu Server . . . for sharing file and printers
[15:58] <mathiaz> smoser: the log has multiple boot
[15:58] <mathiaz> smoser: I'll try to get another log - just first boot
[15:58] <Ytxx> enable the wirless . . .
[15:58] <smoser> nah, you're right, mathiaz
[15:59] <smoser> its probably all there, unless there is some scroll buffer that i would doubt
[15:59] <mathiaz> smoser: were you able to reproduce it?
[15:59] <smoser> no. i dont have uec.
[15:59] <ttx> mathiaz, kirkland: I started up https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UECInstall for a more up-to-date UEC doc
[15:59] <smoser> i think that might be the thing to do irght now.
[15:59] <mathiaz> smoser: ok
[15:59] <ttx> mathiaz, kirkland: nijaba will reviewx it, but feel free to fix it
[15:59] <mathiaz> ttx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC
[15:59] <ttx> mathiaz, kirkland: its an updated version of my blogpost
[16:00] <mathiaz> ttx: ^^ how does that related with this?
[16:00] <ttx> mathiaz: its complementary
[16:00] <nijaba> ttx: I won't be able to work on it before a couple hours, so feel free!
[16:00] <ttx> mathiaz: the UEC doc will be geared toward separate component manual install
[16:00] <ttx> mathiaz: and remove the outdated "bundle EMI" part
[16:00] <ttx> (which still uses system kernel)
[16:01] <mathiaz> ttx: I've updated the UEC wiki page
[16:01] <mathiaz> ttx: I was using it as a documentation for setting up a cloud without using the ISO
[16:01] <mathiaz> ttx: (ie from a plain install)
[16:01] <mathiaz> ttx: which is what I'm doing with the hardware in the lavb
[16:01] <Ytxx> anyone here know how to use a network which uses Ubuntu as a server
[16:01] <ttx> mathiaz: sorry, phonecall
[16:01] <smoser> fyi, all, i'm proud to announce automated nightly publishing of uec builds to ec2
[16:01] <smoser> http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/karmic/current/
[16:02] <smoser> see "published-ec2.txt"
[16:02] <nijaba> congrats smoser!
[16:02] <kirkland> ttx: thanks fro the blog posts, btw
[16:02] <ttx> mathiaz: sure, and we'll keep it for that. It's just very wrong at that point
[16:02] <kirkland> ttx: those have been good
[16:02] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #353601 in nmap (main) "nmap crashed with SIGSEGV in ultra_scan()" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/353601
[16:02]  * kirkland high fives smoser
[16:02] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #371037 in nmap (main) "Windows Fails To Maximise" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371037
[16:02] <ttx> mathiaz: and there is value in having a "simple from CD" version
[16:03] <mathiaz> ttx: right
[16:03] <mathiaz> ttx: we probably need to consolidate all the documentation at some point
[16:03] <mathiaz> ttx: there is stuff all over the place now (help.u.c, testcases.u.c)
[16:03] <smoser> thanks all. i still have to work on process for "promote nightly -> 'released'" but that will be able to use many of the scripts I already have, so should be easier.
[16:04] <smoser> its somewhat surprising, it takes ~ 45 minutes to upload 2 roughly 400M to ec2.
[16:04] <smoser> thats not the only thing that takes time (the slowness of ec2-* commands add to it, and extracting image and such, but the upload is the majority)
[16:05] <zer0her0> hey speaking of EC2, what are people finding the expense to run Ubuntu-server on EC2?
[16:05] <zer0her0> (i know it will vary, but just starting to research this as a possibility as an option for a non-profit i help)
[16:07] <HackeMate> hello, after many time i still not able to make work my logrotate, someone know really a good webpage where i can read every steps?
[16:07] <HackeMate> there is no error message or any warning, it just doesnt stores my log
[16:07] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #452228 in likewise-open5 (universe) "package likewise-open5-netlogon 5.0.3991.1+krb5-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/452228
[16:07] <smoser> zer0her0, i dont have any long term usage cost experience, but the majority of cost is in "uptime"
[16:08] <zer0her0> smoser: what do you mean?
[16:08] <smoser> for the small, you're paying 0.10 per hour (US). the extra-large compute is 0.80 per hour
[16:08] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #441962 in nmap (main) "zenmap: inconsistency between suggested package and method used for su-to-root/gksu" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/441962
[16:08] <smoser> network charges are very small in my experience.
[16:09] <zer0her0> smoser: ok this is where my inexperience shows, so if they are using it internally, they could just have it up during business hours to save  money
[16:09] <zer0her0> ?
[16:10] <xperia> hello to all again ! i have a question about virtual host. this here is my acctual host file http://pastebin.com/d471e8de6 the strange thing is if i remove the domain in this line here i get the site but if i leave it like this it wont work <VirtualHost stromer.allianz.ch.vu:80> even if it should based on this http sniff here http://pastebin.com/d30aae0bb
[16:10] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #452233 in likewise-open5 (universe) "package likewise-open5-eventlog 5.0.3991.1-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/452233
[16:11] <xperia> how can i host different site without such a line here <VirtualHost *:80>
[16:11] <smoser> zer0her0, absolutely
[16:12] <xperia> this line load all domain calls only from one document root folder
[16:12] <zer0her0> smoser: oh sweet.  :) thank you.
[16:12] <smoser> i do that here, except when i forget , and i dont notice one of those high compute $0.80/hr running over the weekend. :)
[16:13] <Ytxx> How do I enable a wireless connection to the internet if I have a Ubuntu Server in my home
[16:13] <zer0her0> yea i was just realizing 70 bucks for a 24/7 a month server ain't bad
[16:13] <zer0her0> (for the small)
[16:13] <smoser> i actually got a "app for that" on the iphone so i can take them down. next step in my grand plan to avoid wasted cycles is to have some cron job watch my instances and text my phone if I have some running at 11:00 pm or something.
[16:13] <smoser> zer0her0, no, its really not terrible, when compared to other hosting options.
[16:13] <zer0her0> smoser: oh they have an EC2 iPhone App?  that would be handy cause that sounds just like the thing i'd do too
[16:14] <smoser> other people have more experience on the reliability though of it.
[16:15] <zer0her0> fair enough, as i said i'm just starting to look at it
[16:15] <smoser> zer0her0, there are multiple ones. i use http://www.iawsmanager.com . it cost $4.99, but that pays for itself the first time you leave something running over the weekend.
[16:15] <zer0her0> haha you beat me to it, i was just looking at the list and going to say: which one do you use haha
[16:15] <smoser> there is a free one, but it didn't apparently do anything for me (other than, i assume, send my credentials to the author :) )
[16:16] <zer0her0> yea, price is not a big deal to me, i just like to know i got one that works well :)
[16:16] <zer0her0> nice, it does all amazon services, that's awesome :)
[16:17] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #401827 in nmap (main) "package nmap 4.76-0ubuntu4 failed to install/upgrade: subproces installed post-installation script gaf een foutwaarde 2 terug" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/401827
[16:17] <smoser> it came down to iawsmanager and directec2
[16:17] <smoser> i dont really recall why i didn't use directec2.
[16:17] <smoser> iec2cloud is the free one that i couldnt get to work.
[16:18] <zer0her0> yea, well it looks like it only does EC2
[16:19] <zer0her0> i like the ability to have all the services in one app
[16:20] <zoopster> aubre: what release of eucalyptus are you using in relation to your bug?
[16:21] <ttx> smoser: our UEC images include the acpiphp module now, right ?
[16:22] <Ytxx> . . . How do I enable a wireless connection to the internet if I have a Ubuntu Server in my home
[16:22] <Ytxx> I am interested in the setting what hardware/sotware I need
[16:22] <smoser> ttx, yes
[16:23] <smoser> at least they should
[16:23] <ttx> smoser: okthx
[16:24] <smoser> ttx, from last nights nightly (running on ec2)
[16:24] <smoser> $ find /lib/modules/2.6.31-* -name "acpiphp*"
[16:24] <smoser> /lib/modules/2.6.31-14-generic-pae/kernel/drivers/pci/hotplug/acpiphp.ko
[16:24] <smoser> $ grep "acpiphp" /etc/modules
[16:24] <smoser> acpiphp
[16:25] <smoser> so i think that that indicates a.) the module is there, and b.) that it should get loaded on boot
[16:30] <aubre> zoopster: sorry was afk. let me check
[16:30] <aubre> zoopster: I updated it this morning
[16:31] <zoopster> aubre: can you note on your bug what build you are seeing this with
[16:32] <zoopster> aubre: we're thinking its a duplicate of something that was fixed yesterday
[16:32] <aubre> zoopster: 1.6~bzr931-0ubuntu2
[16:32] <aubre> zoopster: I will
[16:33] <zoopster> aubre: we're at bzr931-0ubuntu3 - check against that since that's where the fix was resolved
[16:34] <aubre> zoopster: ahh ok
[16:34] <zoopster> aubre: thanks!!
[16:35] <aubre> zoopster: np :)
[16:35] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #306172 in nmap (main) "nmap Warning: Servicescan failed to fill info_template " [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/306172
[16:37] <aubre> zoopster: New eucalyptus packages :)
[16:37] <zoopster> aubre: all gift wrapped for you
[16:38] <aubre> zoopster: where else can you get such fast service I ask you
[16:38] <zoopster> aubre: looking out for you, man
[16:38] <aubre> zoopster: thanks!
[16:39] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #281376 in nmap (main) "Zenmap crashes in the ed of profile creation if not running as root" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/281376
[16:44] <zoopster> aubre: btw...I was told it's NOT in the eucalyptus code, but rather in the kvm code so you may want to dist-upgrade to ensure you have everything that fixes this issue
[16:45] <dholbach> ogra: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/430224 is pretty similar
[16:45] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 430224 in upstart "misc: packages cannot be upgraded in a chroot" [Medium,Won't fix]
[16:47] <smoser> mathiaz, ttx kirkland if i'm going to download an iso to attempt a server isntall of UEC, just take nightly?
[16:47] <kirkland> smoser: yes
[16:47] <kirkland> smoser: rsync -aP rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/ubuntu-server/daily/current/karmic-server-amd64.iso
[16:47] <ttx> smoser: yes, and update
[16:47] <kirkland> smoser: i have a cronjob that syncs that iso every day at 6am
[16:47] <smoser> that was my next question. thanks kirkland
[16:47] <kirkland> smoser: i recommend doing the same :-)
[16:48] <smoser> yeah
[16:48] <smoser> and then...
[16:49] <kirkland> smoser: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/294064/
[16:49] <kirkland> smoser: that's what I run every day at 6am
[16:50] <jpds> Not surprised mirrors.kernel.org is faster.
[16:50] <jpds> kirkland: Although us.archive is in London. ;)
[16:51] <kirkland> jpds: yeah
[16:51] <kirkland> jpds: i'm closer to portland
[16:52] <jsalisbury> kirkland:  is there a quick way to tell what build of eucalyptus is in a daily build such as (1.6~bzr919-0ubuntu3)?
[16:52] <kirkland> jsalisbury: there is a manifest file
[16:53] <kirkland> jsalisbury: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/karmic-server-amd64.list
[16:53] <smoser> kirkland, so why is my rsync not doing anything ?
[16:53] <kirkland> jsalisbury: look at the .list
[16:53] <smoser> it just reports "one file"
[16:53] <jsalisbury> kirkland: great!  Thanks!
[16:53] <smoser> oh.
[16:53] <smoser> du
[16:53] <smoser> duh
[16:53] <kirkland> smoser: did you give it a target?
[16:53] <kirkland> smoser: .
[16:53] <smoser> target
[16:53] <smoser> yeah
[16:53] <smoser> :)
[16:53] <kirkland> jsalisbury: no prob
[16:58] <pmatulis> i would like to make a custom server install cd that will install already up-to-date packages.  what is the most lightweight solution to achieve the latter?
[17:01] <ttx> mathiaz: I'm about to leave, I forwarded you the details for the release meeting... questions ?
[17:01]  * mathiaz checks his email
[17:02] <mathiaz> ttx: well - there is a backlog in the mail server
[17:02] <mathiaz> ttx: so I haven't received your email yet
[17:02] <ttx> mathiaz: too bad :)
[17:03] <mathiaz> ttx: I'll guess I'll work it throught anyway
[17:03] <ttx> mathiaz: i'll pop up for some email parsing tonight, will ping you then
[17:03] <mathiaz> ttx: okidkoiekoadkodo
[17:29] <aubre> zoopster: kirkland: doing dist-upgrades
[17:30] <kirkland> aubre: what version of qemu-kvm did you have before?
[17:30] <aubre> kirkland: how would I find that?
[17:31] <kirkland> aubre: dpkg -l | grep qemu-kvm
[17:31] <kirkland> aubre: dpkg -l qemu-kvm
[17:33] <aubre> it's saying No packages found matching qemu-kvm, that can't be right
[17:34] <aubre> kirkland: I cut and paste your command - I know I have kvm on here, I've been running instances and everything
[17:34] <kirkland> aubre: sorry, you need to run that on your *node*
[17:34] <aubre> kirkland: oh ok sorry
[17:34] <kirkland> aubre: my fault, i should have been more precise
[17:35] <aubre> 0.11.0-0ubuntu
[17:36] <aubre> kirkland: actually that may have been one that was just upgraded, I haven't dist-upgraded the other just yet, sec
[17:37] <aubre> kirkland: this one says 0.11.0-0ubuntu
[17:37] <aubre> kirkland: I've rebooted the other one, and I will test it after it comes up
[17:38] <kirkland> aubre: you're missing the most important part of that version
[17:38] <kirkland> aubre: i need to know what's after the 0ubuntu
[17:38] <aubre> kirkland: hmm let me expand my terminal
[17:38] <aubre> kirkland: 0.11.0-0ubuntu5
[17:39] <aubre> kirkland: the one I just dist-upgraded has the same version
[17:40] <kirkland> aubre: hmm, and you're reproducing the same issue if you run a new instance now?
[17:40] <aubre> kirkland: I need to test again
[17:40] <aubre> kirkland: I haven't had the chance to do it since I dist-upgraded
[17:41] <aubre> kirkland: trying it now
[17:41] <kirkland> aubre: cool
[17:52] <aubre> kirkland: would it be odd if it showed up as /dev/sda2 ?
[17:52] <kirkland> aubre: i'm not sure
[17:52] <kirkland> aubre: i've never tried it
[17:52] <kirkland> aubre: i would have thought it would be sdb
[17:52] <kirkland> aubre: but i don't know
[17:53] <aubre> kirkland: let me disconnect it and see what happens
[17:56] <aubre> kirkland: Still not seeing it
[17:57] <kirkland> aubre: okay, let's move this conversation to #eucalyptus, if you don't mind
[17:57] <aubre> kirkland: maybe my command line is messed uop
[17:57] <aubre> kirkland: sure
[17:57] <kirkland> aubre: yeah, i wanted to get the eucaguys to confirm that
[18:06] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #230006 in multipath-tools (main) "udev breaks multipath after reboot when using LVM" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/230006
[18:20] <dbrewer_> I am trying to debug apache2/php on Ubuntu Server 8.04 using valgrind.  The problem I'm running into is that my PHP build does not have debugging enabled, so I don't get any PHP information coming through to callgrind profiling log.  My specific question: is there any easy (package-driven, preferably) way of installing debug-enabled builds of software?  I've already installed the dbgsym versions of the relevant packages, which led to better
[18:23] <dbrewer_> Alternately, is there a better channel to ask this same question on?  There are a bewildering number of ubuntu channels and this seemed to be the most closely related I could find.  :-)
[18:25] <zul> dbrewer_, install php5-dbg
[18:30] <dbrewer_> zul: I thought I had, but I'll take another look to confirm.  Thanks for your response.
[18:32] <dbrewer_> zul: it looks like the php5-dbg package is not available for Hardy.  Does that match your experience, or is there another place to look?
[18:33] <zul> yes its not available for hardy
[18:35] <dbrewer_> I've installed libapache2-mod-php5-dbgsym, php5-common-dbgsym, and php5-cli-dbgsym... but I guess that doesn't quite do it?
[18:35] <zul> no i dont thnk so
[18:37] <dbrewer_> Well, I suppose it might be worth setting up a Jaunty testbed for this profiling information (even though we try to stick with LTS releases for our web server infrastructure).  Do you use valgrind?  Can you confirm for me that you've installed php5-dbg, used valgrind on apache2, and got back php5 call information in the output?  I just don't want to go down this road too far without being sure that it will work.
[18:42] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #304492 in nis (main) "Local maps can't include server-side maps" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/304492
[18:48] <nijaba> mathiaz, smoser: I am done having fun with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UECInstall
[18:48] <nijaba> up to you if you want to enhance it further.
[18:50]  * nijaba calls it a day
[18:50] <mathiaz> nijaba: UECPackageInstall doesn't exits yet?
[18:50] <nijaba> mathiaz: nope, but that should mainly be what on /UEC right now
[18:50] <mathiaz> nijaba: yop
[18:50] <mathiaz> nijaba: that the page I've updated while installing my UEC tests
[18:52] <nijaba> mathiaz: the goal is to move /UEC to /UECPackageInstall and rename /UECInstall with the content of /UEC when we are happy with it
[19:02] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #276696 in multipath-tools (main) "Root LVM volume on multipath fibre-channel often does not detect properly on boot" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/276696
[19:05] <mathiaz> kirkland: hey - so I've upgraded one of my UEC test setup
[19:05] <mathiaz> kirkland: and now it seems that instances are stuck in the pending state
[19:10] <xperia> hello. how can i tell apache to listen on different ports like 8080 and 8081
[19:11] <sbeattie> edit /etc/apache2/ports.conf and restart
[19:12] <jcastro> smoser: around?
[19:12] <smoser> here
[19:12] <xperia> okay i am also just reading this here as i want to try thid with vhost. http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/examples.html#port
[19:12] <jcastro> smoser: Technoviking found a problem with one of the ec2 tests
[19:12] <Technoviking> smoser: test 4 in ec2 given a intersting result, take 20+ minute to get a host name if I switch from my default zone
[19:13] <smoser> "to get a host name" == "to move from pending state" ?
[19:14] <Technoviking> smoser: yes
[19:15] <smoser> i have seen a recent increase in time from 'run-instances' to 'running'
[19:15] <smoser> however, i've only assumed (warning about 'assume') that this has nothing to do with our images and more to do with load in ec2
[19:16] <Technoviking> smoser: ok, thanks if I see other related weirdness I will let you know
[19:16] <smoser> as far as I can tell, images leave 'pending' state when they're actually booting. i had always assumed that this was very close to the actual xen instance creation time
[19:17] <smoser> ie, after everything had been copied, resources reserved ...
[19:17] <smoser> so i always considered that we have basically no control over that.
[19:17] <smoser> except for, it is quite possible that a 10G image woudl take longer to prepare than a 2G one would (and we create only 10G)
[19:18] <smoser> sorry for no answers
[19:18] <smoser> Technoviking, i'd be very interested if you could produce consistent data that showed either that our images *did* take longer to leave pending state, or *did not* compared to othersthat our images
[19:19] <smoser> one thing i thought was at least reasonable (and consistent with your statement of "when i changed my zone")
[19:19] <kirkland> mathiaz: ugh :-/
[19:19] <smoser> was that ec2 could be caching used images closer, or even making a couple "ready clones" available for possible images
[19:20] <kirkland> mathiaz: what does nc.log say?
[19:20] <smoser> s/possible/popular/
[19:20] <Technoviking> smoser: could try a smaller image on another zone and see if makes a difference
[19:20] <mathiaz> kirkland: let me try again
[19:20] <smoser> Technoviking, yeah, its just hard to get any real data, because its such a black box, and you dont' know if you just happened to 'run-instances' during high load
[19:21] <kirkland> mathiaz: i just installed from ISOs
[19:21] <mathiaz> kirkland: pfhh - now it works
[19:21] <kirkland> mathiaz: pft is right ...
[19:22] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #452323 in eucalyptus (main) "Unable to start EUC instances - no supported architecture for os type 'hvm'" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/452323
[19:23] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #347165 in ipvsadm (main) "/sbin/ipvsadm doesn't work when $PATH doesn't contain /sbin" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/347165
[19:28] <Technoviking> exit
[19:29] <xperia> sbeattie: wanted only to tell you that following this example here for running different domains on different ports on the same ip works great in ubuntu http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/examples.html#port
[19:47] <addisonj> bleh! this network i am on is so bad, doing an rsync job, and only hitting 3 mb/s transfer rate :(
[19:57] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #297378 in autofs (main) ""+"-included entries in auto.home" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/297378
[19:57] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #405177 in keepalived (main) "Spurious dependency on ipvsadm" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/405177
[19:59] <xperia> hello i have a strange problem with accessing my test website. if i do this here http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8081/index.php?page=about it works! it works also everytime i call up the webpage as follow www.linuxperia.ch.vu  but something what dont want to work is if i call up the webpage by using the domain name followed up by some direct link like www.linuxperia.ch.vu/index.php?page=about what...
[19:59] <xperia> ...could be the problem
[20:06] <ttx> mathiaz: yo mama
[20:10] <smoser> jjohansen, ping
[20:10] <jjohansen> pong
[20:11] <jjohansen> smoser: ^
[20:11] <smoser> hey.
[20:11] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-on-ec2/+bug/418130
[20:11] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 418130 in Ubuntu Karmic "Karmic EC2 images don't use a karmic kernel" [High,Fix released]
[20:11] <smoser> someeome brought up lack of ext4 support in -ec2 kernel
[20:12] <smoser> i would consider that one significant
[20:12] <jjohansen> hrmm, yeah
[20:13] <smoser> i know you were trying to address all the differences bug 428692
[20:13] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 428692 in ubuntu "ec2 kernel needs CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=y and other config changes" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/428692
[20:13] <jjohansen> yeah
[20:13] <smoser> i think we shoudl at very least get loop and extv4 turned on
[20:13] <smoser> and maybe any others that we notice as being big
[20:13] <jjohansen> we need to update the configs
[20:13] <smoser> i'd think chance for regression on those 2 =y would be small
[20:13] <smoser> right
[20:14] <jjohansen> well I have the config patch that works well for me but I haven't gotten any feed back
[20:14] <smoser> :-(
[20:14] <smoser> sorry for that
[20:14] <jjohansen> nah, people are busy
[20:15] <smoser> can you show me your config patch ?
[20:15] <jjohansen> sure
[20:15] <smoser> and point out anything you think has a relative chance at regression ?
[20:16] <FirstSgt> I need a backup solution that can do daily backups to a remote host (like rsync) but with versioning so i can "restore" from up to 10 days ago in case of all raid disks failing
[20:16] <jjohansen> I should attach it to Bug #428692
[20:16] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 428692 in ubuntu "ec2 kernel needs CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=y and other config changes" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/428692
[20:17] <jjohansen> give me a bit to test apply it to the newest rebase
[20:18] <smoser> FirstSgt, i know people who love duplicity (also does encrypted) but i've not used it.
[20:20] <FirstSgt> duplicity, i like the name
[20:20] <FirstSgt> :)
[20:20] <smoser> jjohansen, i can promise a bit of testing this time.
[20:20] <jjohansen> smoser: thanks
[20:21] <smoser> jjohansen, what i had been working on was primariliy getting the nightly push-to-ec2 stuff working.
[20:21] <smoser> that is now done.. (well, except for deleting old builds)
[20:21] <jjohansen> smoser: completely understand
[20:21] <smoser> and i still have to write "promote nightly to release"
[20:22] <smoser> but for the nightlies, now, kif that were in place when rtg updated those kernels, our new builds would grab them and kernels would be published
[20:22] <smoser> all magic
[20:22] <smoser> so you wouldn't have had to do it yourself
[20:23] <ZugZug> What would it take to automatically encrypted user's home directories?
[20:24] <smoser> jjohansen, also, on the todo list of making pushing to ec2 easier is to take in a kernel deb and publish it, creating a initramdisk in a chroot automatically
[20:24] <smoser> anyway
[20:24] <jjohansen> yeah that would be good
[20:28] <bventura> cd ww
[20:28] <bventura> oops!
[20:41] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #452461 in kerberos-configs (universe) "Cannot elide admin_servers from debconf config" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/452461
[21:04] <wizardslovak> what do you people prefer when you have multiple domains on one server
[21:04] <wizardslovak> name based or ip based?
[21:04] <_ruben> depends on the availability of ips
[21:04] <_ruben> ips are prefered if available
[21:05] <wizardslovak> i am newbie
[21:05] <wizardslovak> whats ips?
[21:05] <_ruben> the plural of ip
[21:07] <wizardslovak> oo ok
[21:09] <wizardslovak> well i can make virtual etho
[21:12] <wizardslovak> cant i just setup apache conf like this http://pastebin.com/m263d8496
[21:12] <wizardslovak> or is easier to setup LAn ip for each website?
[21:13] <_ruben> you'd need a NameVirtualHost directive as well to enable name based vhosts
[21:13] <_ruben> using lan ips for vhosting will only do you good if the websites will only be accessed from your lan
[21:14] <_ruben> in which case you should use ip based vhosts, as lans tend to have more than enough free ip space
[21:14] <wizardslovak> ok i mean one server one site will be <IP_ADDRESS> second site <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:14] <wizardslovak> but when i will actuall type site 1 or site 2 it still should point me to right place
[21:15] <wizardslovak> ok so i will use ip vhost
[21:15] <dbrewer_> When I install the php5-dbg package, should I expect the resulting installed build of php5 to have debugging functionality enabled?  Or, does this package just have debug symbols but not actually have the '--enable-debug' flag set on the PHP compilation?
[21:16] <_ruben> !info php5-dbg
[21:16] <_ruben> just the symbols aparently
[21:17] <dbrewer_> ok, off to compile me a debug version of php I guess.  :-)
[21:19] <xperia> wizardslovak i have just successfull maked on my ubuntu server to run different domains on the same server with only one ip
[21:19] <xperia> the most easy thing is using name based vhost
[21:19] <wizardslovak> xperia how?
[21:20] <xperia> give me juast a second
[21:20] <wizardslovak> thank you
[21:20] <xperia> wizardslovak: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/examples.html#port
[21:21] <wizardslovak> ooo so for each site you open port
[21:21] <xperia> this describe how to run different domains on one server with only one ip
[21:21] <xperia> yes i am doing this with ports as my dns dont resolve the host header
[21:21] <wizardslovak> ok let me try it
[21:21] <xperia> but you can use it also without ports
[21:21] <wizardslovak> ill be back and thanks again
[21:21] <wizardslovak> ??
[21:22] <wizardslovak> just one port?
[21:22] <xperia> just use port 80
[21:22] <xperia> all over
[21:22] <wizardslovak> ok
[21:22] <xperia> it should work also
[21:22] <xperia> if your host header is right
[21:22] <xperia> use for that http header plugin in firefox to
[21:22] <xperia> confirm
[21:23] <wizardslovak> let me just config apache2 and then ill be back
[21:23] <xperia> okay
[21:27] <wizardslovak> ok it doesnt work
[21:27] <wizardslovak> should i include "listen 80"
[21:27] <xperia> what file did you changed
[21:28] <wizardslovak> /etc/apache2/sites-available/website
[21:28] <xperia> no change direct default other wise it wont work
[21:28] <xperia> and the reboot
[21:29] <xperia> make a backup if default before you override it with website
[21:29] <wizardslovak> i already used websit
[21:30] <xperia> what do you mean with allready used ?
[21:30] <xperia> cp default to default-back
[21:30] <xperia> and do cp website to default
[21:30] <xperia> then reboot
[21:33] <wizardslovak_> sorru
[21:33] <wizardslovak_> i am abck now
[21:36] <_bubsy> i have question.. between postgres and mysql. which one is more scalable ?
[21:38] <wizardslovak_> xperia
[21:38] <wizardslovak_> still here?
[21:38] <xperia> yes
[21:39] <_bubsy> i jsut setup my postgres database. but i found mysql is more scalable
[21:40] <xperia> _bubsy: i am itself not very experienced with databases try to use as much as possible flat files
[21:40] <hads> 'which is more scalable' isn't really answerable.
[21:41] <Reaper1278> Anyone know how to remove the encription from a partition? I want to keep the partition!
[21:41] <wizardslovak_> ok so i did modify it the way you showed me and now i cant even load my first site
[21:41] <hads> Reaper1278: Copy the data off and recreate the partition
[21:41] <_bubsy> it look like mysql replicate it easy than postgres
[21:41] <Reaper1278> I was afraid of that!
[21:41] <Reaper1278> Thanks
[21:41] <hads> Yeah :) No worries.
[21:42] <xperia> wizardslovak: it isnt that heavy to setup vhost
[21:42] <xperia> can you post the default file at paste bin ?
[21:43] <wizardslovak_> you want apach2.conf or /sites-available/website?
[21:43] <xperia> no i want /sites-available/default
[21:43] <wizardslovak_> but i am not using default
[21:44] <xperia> what do you mean you dont use it. its the default file allways used
[21:44] <wizardslovak_> i disabled it and use other
[21:44] <hads> Not if it's not enabled :)
[21:44] <xperia> in this case i cant help you as you use a speciall setup
[21:45] <wizardslovak_> u use "a2dissite" and "a2ensite" to enable it
[21:45] <hads> Not that special
[21:46] <VousDeux> Does anyone have any idea why phpldapadmin says my memory limit is low?
[21:46] <xperia> no i dont use "a2dissite" and "a2ensite". i change the default file and reboot the server thats all
[21:46] <wizardslovak_> aha
[21:46] <wizardslovak_> ok let me get you default then
[21:46] <wizardslovak_> damn
[21:46] <wizardslovak_> how do i copy it from server to pastebin
[21:47] <hads> You don't need to change the default file and certainly don't need to reboot
[21:47] <xperia> normally it would be enough to restart only the apache also
[21:47] <xperia> nano your file
[21:47] <xperia> mark it with the mouse
[21:48] <wizardslovak_> i am on putty tho
[21:48] <wizardslovak_> i know there is command for it
[21:48] <xperia> open the window and press the middle button of the mouse and the marked filed will be copyed
[21:49] <xperia> i am working with ssh in the terminal on linux.
[21:49] <wizardslovak_> ok this is default
[21:50] <wizardslovak_> and this is the one i am using
[21:50] <wizardslovak_> http://pastebin.com/m7189c9ea
[21:50] <wizardslovak_> wizzy.us is first and theforumz.org iss econd
[21:52] <xperia> change NameVirtualHost <IP_ADDRESS>:80 to NameVirtualHost *:80
[21:53] <xperia> change also both <VirtualHost <IP_ADDRESS>:80> to <VirtualHost *:80>
[21:53] <chmac> It looks like my account is banned from sftp somehow. When I connect I get "Peer closed connection", but it works fine for scponly users...
[21:54] <chmac> I can connect over ssh ok
[21:54] <wizardslovak_> xperia : done
[21:54] <xperia> then i would also change the last vhost
[21:54] <xperia> as follow
[21:54] <chmac> Any ideas how to debug / fix?
[21:55] <wizardslovak_> ??
[21:56] <jpds> chmac: Have fail2ban installed?
[21:57] <xperia> DocumentRoot /home/wizardslovak/theforumz.org
[21:57] <xperia> ServerName www.theforumz.org
[21:57] <xperia> ServerAlias theforumz.org
[21:57] <xperia> ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/error.log
[21:57] <xperia> CustomLog /var/log/apache2/theforumz-access.log combined
[21:57] <xperia> then reboot
[21:58] <xperia> please also remove all symlinks from sites enabled till the default symlink
[21:58] <xperia> before reboot
[21:59] <wizardslovak_> now it works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[21:59] <wizardslovak_> thanks man
[22:00] <xperia> can you veryfiy something that dont work for me
[22:00] <xperia> at the moment
[22:00] <wizardslovak_> sure
[22:00] <wizardslovak_> anything man
[22:00] <xperia> i have in my pages some images
[22:00] <wizardslovak_> and?
[22:00] <xperia> that i was able to access them before i have setup vhost
[22:01] <xperia> as follow
[22:01] <chmac> Darn, turns out the permissions on /dev/null were wrong!
[22:01] <xperia> mydomain.com/mypicture.jpg
[22:01] <hads> ./part
[22:01] <xperia> but now if i call the same url i get allways only the index.php file
[22:02] <xperia> can you try to access some subfolder content like yourdomain.com/picture.jpg that worked for you before
[22:02] <xperia> you setup vhost
[22:02] <wizardslovak_> wait
[22:03] <wizardslovak_> i kinda dont get what you want me to do
[22:03] <xperia> try just to call something that it isnt the index.php
[22:04] <wizardslovak_> oo
[22:04] <xperia> and tell me if it works for you
[22:04] <wizardslovak_> so you want not to load index.html but something else
[22:04] <xperia> yes
[22:05] <wizardslovak_> hmm
[22:05] <xperia> what for files do you have in one of a document root
[22:05] <wizardslovak_> damn man
[22:05] <xperia> do you have a picture or a another .php .html file
[22:05] <wizardslovak_> i never didnt do
[22:06] <wizardslovak_> i always use index.html
[22:07] <xperia> yeah but you sure have some other .html files in document root
[22:07] <wizardslovak_> yes i do
[22:07] <wizardslovak_> well base is index.html then is contack.html
[22:07] <wizardslovak_> and there are couple more
[22:07] <wizardslovak_> but root file is index
[22:07] <wizardslovak_> and you want server not to read index as root but some other file
[22:08] <wizardslovak_> right?
[22:08] <xperia> then just call them after the domain name. example: www.yourdomain.com/contackt.html
[22:08] <xperia> does it load the rigth html file ?
[22:08] <wizardslovak_> yes it does
[22:08] <jjohansen> smoser: should I just use my script to public a couple test kernels, or do you want me to stick to the naming scheme
[22:08] <xperia> which file
[22:08] <xperia> does it load
[22:08] <wizardslovak_> correct one
[22:09] <wizardslovak_> not index but contact
[22:09] <xperia> hmmmm for me this dont work exactly
[22:09] <wizardslovak_> do you have that other file in same folder?
[22:10] <xperia> yes and it worked everything before but now with vhost it wont.
[22:10] <smoser> jjohansen, your choice. i'd like for you to at least put them into sandbox
[22:10] <smoser> but if thats a hassle, dont worry too much
[22:10] <xperia> have to study why this dont work
[22:10] <wizardslovak_> how did you setup your vhost tho
[22:11] <xperia> the same like you :-)
[22:11] <wizardslovak_> when you type site.com it shows your site right?
[22:11] <xperia> yeah linuxperia.ch.vu show the index.php file
[22:11] <wizardslovak_> ok
[22:11] <jjohansen> smoser: okay
[22:12] <wizardslovak_> but when you site.com/otherfile.php it doesnt
[22:12] <xperia> but this url show me allways index.php http://linuxperia.ch.vu/index.php?page=about
[22:13] <smoser> jjohansen, if you get publish-image (and xc2) from my git
[22:13] <smoser> then
[22:13] <smoser> publish-image --bucket-prefix ubuntu-images-sandbox- --type kernel --verbose x86_64 my-kernel.img
[22:13] <wizardslovak_> what file you want to open
[22:13] <smoser> and
[22:13] <wizardslovak_> ill try it from my pc
[22:13] <smoser> publish-image --bucket-prefix ubuntu-images-sandbox- --type initrd --verbose x86_64 my-initrd.img
[22:14] <xperia> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8081/index.php?page=about
[22:14] <wizardslovak_> btw nice site
[22:14] <xperia> well i am working on it
[22:14] <xperia> its my test page
[22:14] <jjohansen> smoser: where is your git?
[22:14] <smoser> those are at http://smoser.brickies.net/git/?p=misc-starter-tools.git;a=summary
[22:14] <xperia> i dont understand why it wont eat the command ?page=about
[22:14] <smoser> i've got to run, but if you want to try, that'd be good. otherwise, dont worry about it.
[22:14] <smoser> jjohansen, just dont bother for now. i'll write doc
[22:15] <wizardslovak_> sorry man
[22:15] <smoser> later all.
[22:15] <wizardslovak_> i dont know why
[22:15] <wizardslovak_> peace smoser
[22:15] <jjohansen> smoser: okay, later
[22:16] <xperia> its okay. pitty that you dont have a php page that you can feed with a command like ?page=about
[22:16] <wizardslovak_> btw where did you get that script , phone coming out and song
[22:17] <xperia> self developed
[22:17] <xperia> with flash
[22:17] <wizardslovak_> lol i didnt get to the flash yet
[22:17] <wizardslovak_> i am newbie in all this
[22:18] <xperia> its okay with the time you will use it for sure
[22:19] <wizardslovak_> what are you using?
[22:19] <wizardslovak_> i mean for html , dreamweaver
[22:20] <xperia> bluefish with ssftp think
[22:20] <mathiaz> kirkland: does it take a long to login via ssh on your uec images?
[22:20] <mathiaz> kirkland: does it take a long *time* to login via ssh on your uec images?
[22:21] <kirkland> mathiaz: not really, no
[22:21] <mathiaz> kirkland: ie - you start a uec images on your cloud - then try to login
[22:21] <kirkland> mathiaz: i wait for it go to "running"
[22:21] <mathiaz> kirkland: right - here too
[22:21] <kirkland> mathiaz: you can use the get-console command to see if somethign is hanging
[22:21] <xperia>  hey cracks can somebody tell me why this here works http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8081/index.php?page=about but this wont work http://linuxperia.ch.vu/index.php?page=about
[22:21] <mathiaz> kirkland: is dns setup correctly?
[22:22] <mathiaz> kirkland: I think my problem is because of a broken dns system
[22:22] <mathiaz> kirkland: the guest cannot contact any dns server
[22:22] <mathiaz> kirkland: I'm also confused how public IP are working
[22:22] <mathiaz> kirkland: they don't seem to be assigned in the guest
[22:24] <mathiaz> kirkland: right - it's DNAT
[22:24] <mathiaz> kirkland: http://paste.ubuntu.com/294227/
[22:25] <kirkland> mathiaz: ah
[22:26] <mathiaz> kirkland: how does a /etc/resolv.conf look like on your guest?
[22:27] <kirkland> mathiaz: let me get one :-)
[22:28] <mathiaz> kirkland: are your guest able to ping outside?
[22:28] <kirkland> euca-authorize default -P tcp -p 22 -s <IP_ADDRESS>/0
[22:28] <kirkland> mathiaz: is ^ command failing for you now?
[22:28] <mathiaz> kirkland: nope
[22:28] <kirkland> mathiaz: hmm
[22:28] <kirkland> mathiaz: i wonder whats wrong here
[22:29] <mathiaz> kirkland: how does it fail?
[22:32] <kirkland> mathiaz: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/294231/
[22:33] <mathiaz> kirkland: oh - I've seen that as well
[22:33] <kirkland> mathiaz: bug #?
[22:33] <kirkland> mathiaz: i'll file one if not
[22:33]  * mathiaz tries to remember how it was fixed
[22:33] <mathiaz> kirkland: no bug filed
[22:37] <kirkland> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/452556 mathiaz
[22:37] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 452556 in eucalyptus "euca-authorize default failing" [Medium,Confirmed]
[22:37] <mathiaz> kirkland: whouhou -- yet another bug!
[22:38] <kirkland> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/294235/ <- mathiaz
[22:38] <mathiaz> kirkland: .20 is your CC IP?
[22:38] <kirkland> mathiaz: yup
[22:38] <kirkland> mathiaz: which isn't running a dns server that i'm aware of
[22:39] <mathiaz> kirkland: and your guest have which ip addresses?
[22:39] <mathiaz> kirkland: 179.19.XX ?
[22:39] <mathiaz> kirkland: 172.19.XX ?
[22:39] <mathiaz> kirkland: the CC is running a dns server
[22:40] <mathiaz> kirkland: it listens on port 53
[22:40] <mathiaz> kirkland: so my question is whether dns resolution works from your guests?
[22:51] <wizardslovak> i got mysql installed
[22:51] <wizardslovak> and i want to install software on xp which needs mysql
[22:52] <wizardslovak> when i type my LAN or WAN ip it cannot connect
[22:53] <wizardslovak> can anyone point me to some good how to set up email server
[22:55] <Keizer> Hey guys
[22:56] <Keizer> Trying to make self signed SSL certificate and when I follow the example on the ubuntu site I get the error "SSL receive a record that exceeded the maximum permissible length
[23:00] <kirkland> mathiaz: yes, dns does work
[23:00] <kirkland> mathiaz: from the guest
[23:00] <kirkland> mathiaz: actually ....
[23:00] <mathiaz> kirkland: what's the range of your public IPs?
[23:00] <kirkland> mathiaz: it works, if the nameserver selected is <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:00] <kirkland> mathiaz: but if i comment that out of my resolv.conf, it does *not* work
[23:01] <mathiaz> kirkland: right
[23:01] <kirkland> mathiaz: i don't think <IP_ADDRESS> should be in that resolve.conf at all
[23:01] <mathiaz> kirkland: the second dns server (172.19.X.X) is actually the eucalyptus-cloud process
[23:01] <kirkland> mathiaz: it's not going to do the right thing
[23:01] <mathiaz> kirkland: well - I don't know if eucalyptus-cloud provides all the dns services
[23:01] <mathiaz> kirkland: I've tried to query it - it does answer to dns requests
[23:02] <mathiaz> kirkland: but it doesn't seem to resolve anything special
[23:02] <mathiaz> kirkland: like PTR record for IPs etc...
[23:02] <mathiaz> kirkland: could you confirm that your public IP for UEC are also on the <IP_ADDRESS> network?
[23:11] <kirkland> mathiaz: yeah
[23:11] <kirkland> mathiaz: sorry, i must have missed a question of yours in there
[23:12] <mathiaz> kirkland: ok - that's why the dns knows how to send replies back to the CC
[23:12] <mathiaz> kirkland: which then forwards them to the guests
[23:30] <vraa> hey guys, i finally have time to solve an odd problem i'm having, because i have four onboard ethernet controllers-ubuntu startup takes a long time, i have to press ctrlaltdel for it to skip something but once past that it works fine, where should i start to fix this?
[23:39] <JanC> vraa: are you sure this is related to the fact that you have 4 ethernet controllers?
[23:40] <vraa> i only have one plugged in, i think some how one day i used "verbose" mode and it showed it was stalling on the network connection part
[23:40] <vraa> maybe i was dreaming it, i can restart the machine right now and double check, what was verbose mode key switch again?
[23:43] <JanC> if you boot using the recovery boot menu option in grub (boots in single user mode) it's quite verbose  ツ
[23:44] <JanC> but might be useful to check the logs afterwards too
[23:45] <vraa> ah there is a log? what should i look for under log viewer?
[23:47] <xperia2> hello ! can somebody tell me what cause ubuntu-server to strip the url.that is forwarded to the server. in my access log i have this here
[23:47] <xperia2> "/ HTTP/1.1" 200 2975 "http://linuxperia.ch.vu/index.php?page=about"
[23:47] <xperia2> but ir should be
[23:48] <xperia2> " /index.php?page=about HTTP/1.1" "http://linuxperia.ch.vu/index.php?page=about"
[23:48] <xperia2> what exactly does strip the url ?
[23:52] <vraa> okay i found out i dont have a /var/log/boot
[23:53] <vraa> looks like i need to enable bootlogd in /etc/default/bootlogd
[23:57] <vraa> is dmesg output the same as /var/logs/boot


[16:36] <pbx> What do people like for screen-lock now that gnome-screensaver is no longer present by default?
[16:37] <pbx> From having installed LightDM I do have `dm-tool`, but the relevant commands fail with "Not running inside a display manager, XDG_SEAT_PATH not defined"
[16:37] <pbx> (I'm using XMonad mostly, FWIW)
[18:53] <pbx> Hi, if `dm-tool` complains "Not running inside a display manager" when I am in fact running GDM, is it just confused, or have I maybe broken something? https://dpaste.com/3NL3TYLUJ
[18:54] <pbx> Or is this maybe a side effect of being in an XMonad session instead of a DE?
[19:19] <pbx> I guess it'll remain a mystery then :)


[09:47] <mac_v> lool: hi... both humanity and humanity-dark are ready for upload
[09:49] <lool> mac_v: Sorry I wont upload anything anymore unless I hear differently from design team
[09:49] <lool> mac_v: See comment on the bug
[09:49] <lool> Ivanka told me she would comment on the bug but didn't
[09:49] <mac_v> lool: kwwii pinged you on -desktop
[09:49] <mac_v> yesterday
[09:49] <lool> And she said she'd try out the bzr lp:humanity icons and tell me whether I should upload any part of it
[09:50] <mac_v> lool: kwwii is incharge of this now
[09:50] <lool> mac_v: I'll tell kwii too
[09:50] <lool> mac_v: Ivanka is his boss
[09:50] <mac_v> lool: i know ;) both mat and kwwii have tested it and only then they have approved it
[09:50] <lool> I'm not doing any change anymore in beta freeze nor before release unless I hear otherwise from Ivanka or Mark
[09:50] <mac_v> anyways , no probs
[09:50] <mac_v> :)
[09:51] <lool> Sorry, it's very frustrating for kwii, you, and me, but I have to cut this madness
[09:51] <mac_v> lool: no probs :) ... just to inform you since you were asking yesterday if it was ready
[09:52] <lool> mac_v: Yeah, I wanted Ivanka to comment on the bug so that you'd get the decision from her directly, she told me she would, since she hadn't this morning I did it
[09:57] <lool> paulliu: Around?
[09:58] <lool> paulliu: I'm a bit worried at http://piware.de/workitems/mobile/karmic/report.html and am considering killing more items from your list
[09:59] <lool> GrueMaster: Did you post the alpha 6 LSB results?
[09:59] <lool> It seems not
[09:59] <paulliu> lool: ok.
[10:00] <lool> paulliu: Which one should we postpone?
[10:00] <lool> paulliu: All?
[10:00] <lool> LP #330691, F-spot application window is over shooting the screen: TODO
[10:00] <lool> GNOME #312283, "About Me" doesn't fit on SVGA screens: TODO
[10:00] <lool> GNOME #554739, gnome-mouse-properties window does not fit on netbook screens vertically (1024x600): TODO
[10:00] <lool> GNOME #543387, iagno: add support to scale the tiles: TODO
[10:01] <lool> paulliu: I guess we'd better have you focus on moblin and drop these items
[10:01] <lool> paulliu: is that ok with you
[10:01] <paulliu> lool: Let's postpone all those items and focusing on Moblin.
[10:01] <lool> ok
[10:02] <paulliu> lool: Yeah. Same idea.
[10:02] <paulliu> lool: A bit sad but... I really have no time now.
[10:03] <lool> On the moblin spec now
[10:03] <lool> Push possible patches to Karmic: TODO
[10:03] <lool> Move packages to universe as many as possible: TODO
[10:03] <lool> I'll postpone the first one
[10:03] <lool> And keep the second one a little longer
[10:03] <paulliu> lool: ok. thank you.
[13:30] <lool> paulliu: Around?
[13:30] <lool> paulliu: moblin remix is currently failing to build; do you need help in fixing that?
[13:35] <paulliu> lool: It should be good to build now?
[13:35] <paulliu> lool: which package breaks?
[13:38] <lool> paulliu: Didn't you get the email?
[13:38] <lool> Will tell you in two secs
[13:39] <paulliu> lool: I get cjwatson's mail and he said it's ok.
[13:39] <paulliu> about 2 hours ago
[13:39] <lool> paulliu: Hmm just got a ping from slangasek on IRC
[13:40] <lool> paulliu: So a livefs is currently building
[13:40] <lool> paulliu: It built it seems!
[13:41] <lool> paulliu: that was the failure http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/karmic/ubuntu-moblin-remix/latest/livecd-20090929-i386.out
[13:42] <paulliu> lool: it should be yesterday's report. Today I update these 7 packages.
[13:42] <paulliu> lool: So if we kick a build now. We should get a new image.
[13:42] <lool> should be biult
[13:42] <paulliu> lool: ok. thanks.
[13:42] <lool> paulliu: I think it just finished and is pending publication
[13:44]  * lool mirrors logs manually
[13:44] <lool> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-moblin-remix/daily-live/current/ is fresh
[13:47]  * JamieBennett downloads
[14:28]  * ian__ downloads