[10:44] <introvert> rybuntu: and for things that can't be emulated you can set up a chroot
[10:45] <introvert> rybuntu: And most things can be emulated
[10:45] <rybuntu> introvert: i did use pango
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> grndslm: the best filesystem is the one you use on the backup media.
[10:45] <frank23> rybuntu: amd64 is a bit faster. But I use i386. it's easier. no problems with flash/codecs/etc
[10:45] <patrick52222> fyrestrtr: iv installed the drivers but do i enable it
[10:45] <fyrestrtr> grndslm: this, of course, implies that you *have* backup.
[10:45] <Frogzoo> rybuntu: introvert that said, the performance gains of going a64 are pretty slim, outweighed, imo, by the fact that 32 bit support/stability
[10:45] <rybuntu> frank23: yeah im doing the same
[10:45] <basvg> stansell: ah, sorry, there's 4 entries for <IP_ADDRESS>. The ports are 631, 40376, 40378 and 40372. There's also an entry for <IP_ADDRESS>:631
[10:45] <rybuntu> ill stay with 32 then
[10:46] <rybuntu> thanks for the tips
[10:46] <Frogzoo> frank23: go 686
[10:46] <grndslm> fyrestrtr, i realize, but even with backup, there's a chance that you lose something since your last weekly/daily backup or whenever
[10:46] <introvert> Frogzoo: I don't use Ubuntu, and I've rarely used it.. so I will make the presumption that Ubuntu is oppressing you to shitty 64-bit support
[10:46] <interneti> fyrestrtr what is the location of the logs?
[10:46] <frank23> rybuntu: i'll switch to ubuntu amd64 when installing and running x86 prgrams is totally transparent
[10:46] <Frogzoo> introvert: that about covers it :D
[10:46] <hippie23> is there a way to set the brightness on a iMac g3 in breezy?
[10:46] <stansell> basvg, ok - that  <IP_ADDRESS>:631 should allow a connection from the other machine
[10:46] <rybuntu> frank23: yeah thats why i left it behind too
[10:46] <introvert> Frogzoo: I have EVERY program I've ever requested, and each one is up to date, and each one is 64-bit
[10:46] <fyrestrtr> interneti: /var/logs
[10:46] <introvert> heh
[10:47] <fyrestrtr> patrick52222: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[10:47] <Ku-guy_> grndslm: In case you're interested, I wrote a system backup script which is capable of doing incremental backups.  It also has the ability to back your data up to a remote server using scp.  If you are interested in it, let me know.
[10:47] <rybuntu> im outy guys ttyl
[10:47] <basvg> stansell: the full entry is udp 0  <IP_ADDRESS>:631 0.0.0:*  <[10:47] <fyrestrtr> patrick52222: then, sudo apt-get install nvtv
[10:47] <interneti> fyrestrtr there are a few ones pertaining to xorg
[10:47] <grndslm> Ku-guy_, i would love to have that
[10:47] <interneti> which one do I give you?
[10:48] <pheng> kjdfkbvd
[10:48] <pheng> mdfbgdnf
[10:48] <introvert> Does any repository have modular X yet?
[10:48] <frank23> introvert: you don't need a 32bit chroot at all? wine, vmware, flash, w32codecs "just works@?
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> interneti: pastebin Xorg.0.log or whatever is the closest equivalent
[10:48] <patton> who can send me repositories breezy-extras please?
[10:48] <grndslm> Ku-guy_, jvitosky at gmail dot com, unless you have a link
[10:48] <introvert> frank23: I have Wine, Win32codecs, and an open source flash equivelant
[10:48] <Ku-guy_> grndslm: I'll post a URL shortly...
[10:48] <Frogzoo> !tell patton about easysource
[10:48] <introvert> frank23: All under 64-bit, but like I said I don't use Ubuntu
[10:48] <fyrestrtr> !tell patton about repos
[10:48] <stansell> basvg, I'm not sure if the tcp is needed, but that would be sensible
[10:48] <grndslm> Ku-guy_, thanks a lot
[10:48] <cerebrix> anyone here ever get amarok playing in 5.1 with an onboard nforce4 ac97 card before?
[10:49] <introvert> frank23: Only setback is the open-source equivelant to flash only supports flash 5 and down I believe
[10:49] <stansell> basvg, is there anything interesting in /var/log/cups/error_log ?
[10:49] <introvert> cerebrix: I have
[10:49] <introvert> cerebrix: You have nforce-4 ultra chipset?
[10:49] <frank23> introvert: gplflash doesn't do everything. and I use ubuntu. what distro are you running?
[10:49] <cerebrix> introvert: ok got a few questions for ya
[10:49] <basvg> stansell: let me check. By the way, is an IP enough (on the client... I told it I have a cups printer and only gave it the ip)
[10:49] <cerebrix> nforce4 sli board
[10:49] <introvert> frank23: Gentoo, but I don't care for flash much
[10:49] <interneti> http://pastebin.com/622878
[10:50] <introvert> cerebrix: That is nforce 4 ultra, what's your problem with amarok on 5.1?
[10:50] <cerebrix> speaker-test surround51 -c6 i can get to work but for the life of me i cant get amarok to play in 5.1 at all
[10:50] <grndslm> hey guys, since everything i know is gone...i'm about to give this machine a fresh install....who thinks dapper is ready for try on my machine???
[10:50] <crimsun> cerebrix: tell amarok to use plug:surround51 with gstreamer's alsasink
[10:50] <stansell> basvg, you mean in the URI field?
[10:50] <cerebrix> i need to set the engine to gstreamer?
[10:50] <hippie23> does any1 here know anything about PPC ubuntu?
[10:50] <frank23> introvert: i'm waiting for the day I can install i386 packages easily, in ubuntu. eventually....
[10:51] <crimsun> cerebrix: yes, unless you can set it in the xine engine
[10:51] <basvg> stansell: yes, that's the one
[10:51] <introvert> frank23: i386?
[10:51] <introvert> frank23: You mean amd64?
[10:51] <cerebrix> plug:surround51:0 is what its set to now
[10:51] <crimsun> cerebrix: invalid syntax
[10:51] <introvert> cerebrix: I don't know.. it just.. 'worked for me'
[10:51] <basvg> stansell: I'm running a tail -f on the error_log on both machines. When I send a testpage then on the serverside nothing happens. On the client I get a message that a job is cued. No errors
[10:52] <frank23> introvert: I mean run programs made for i386 (games, proprietary software, whatever totally transparently)
[10:52] <YukiCuss> Amaranth, nonsense. :)
[10:52] <basvg> stansell: also `lpq -PPSC-1510` says the printer is ready and printing
[10:52] <introvert> frank23: Oh, what software in mind besides flash
[10:53] <Chousuke> frank23: i386 what? Linux software, windows software or OS X software? :P
[10:53] <stansell> basvg, the client has a printer configured?
[10:53] <grndslm> let's see a show of hands...who thinks dapper is ready for prime time, if not...why should i reinstall breezy and wait another 2 months??
[10:53] <patrick52222> fyrestrtr: wat do i do now
[10:53] <introvert> frank23: I'm not trying to convert anyone here.. but source-based distros have AMAZING support for amd64
[10:53] <Britches27> nalioth: how are you tonight?.....well its nioght where I am.
[10:53] <YukiCuss> grndslm, I'm running it fine now.
[10:53] <stansell> basvg, well, of course - you've added one
[10:53] <grndslm> YukiCuss, any stability issues at all??
[10:53] <basvg> stansell: on the client I went to printer configuration => add printer => cups printer => give it the IP of the server => select the proper printer from the list => print test page
[10:53] <introvert> frank23: Only thing I can't get is flash, in which I use gplflash (Soon it will support latest versions of flash, i hope)
[10:53] <stansell> basvg, I think the URI should probably start with ipp: and include the remote printer name
[10:54] <YukiCuss> grndslm, I've not encountered any personally. I'm actually enjoying the improved language support.
[10:54] <basvg> stansell: I'll give it a shot
[10:54] <geneo93> grndslm:  686 kernel has a few bugs
[10:54] <nalioth> Britches27: join me in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:54] <frank23> introvert: linux software: like quake 4, doom 3, cedega. I know gentoo has better support for amd64. I'm for ubuntu to catch p
[10:54] <stansell> basvg, on the client you selected the printer from a list?
[10:54] <DJ_Tobias> hey where do i limewire.. i just want the folder with the .sh file.. i think its runlime.sh ?
[10:54] <grndslm> dapper k7 kernel lookin' alright??  i might stick with 386 since it is 2.6.15 now, eh?
[10:54] <interneti> fyrestrtr how's it going (3:54 am)
[10:55] <basvg> stansell: once you give it the IP then the next screen asks for the brand and type oof the printer
[10:55] <introvert> frank23: Oh, actually I do use 32-bit library emulation for quake 4 and doom 3
[10:55] <Chousuke> frank23: Those are difficult to make easily installable in Ubuntu because they're non-free software.
[10:55] <grndslm> dapper should have 2.6.16 by release time, hopefully??  pvr-500 support built-in, yay!
[10:55] <patrick52222> fyrestrtr: wat do i do now
[10:55] <hippie23> does anybody know where I can get a program to set the brightness and geometry on my iMac g3... thats all done from the OS and I cant find any control panels for it
[10:55] <crimsun> grndslm: no.
[10:55] <YukiCuss> patrick52222, he might've gone away. Just wait a little while and ask him in person, don't keep sending it to the channel.
[10:55] <Chousuke> frank23: Ubuntu doesn't really support non-free software, and I doubt it ever will.
[10:55] <patrick52222> ok
[10:56] <YukiCuss> Chousuke, compare `support' personally and `support' technically, though.
[10:56] <stansell> basvg, oh - that's probably a local list
[10:56] <grndslm> crimsun, no new kernel???
[10:56] <patrick52222> hello i just typed "sudo apt-get install nvtv" but wat do i do now
[10:56] <frank23> Chousuke: introvert: what I'm waiting for is to be able to run both amd64 and i386 binaries transparently. both can run just as easily
[10:56] <basvg> stansell: ah, when I go to the printer configuration again then it says `network host <IP_ADDRESS> is busy' .... so that sucks. I'll set the debug leevel so that we get a bit more info
[10:56] <introvert> frank23: If you take the time to really set up 32-bit emulation it can appear as that
[10:56] <YukiCuss> frank23, it almost works. Problem is keeping 64-bit libraries strictly in {/usr,}/lib64.
[10:57] <YukiCuss> frank23, otherwise, you can set up a 32-bit chroot and do it that way, but it's anything but transparent.
[10:57] <introvert> frank23: I have not much experience in linux 32-bit emulation, but from what I've used of it, i haven't had to do anything out of the ordinary
[10:57] <geneo93> patrick52222:  nvidia-settings
[10:57] <introvert> frank23: but like I said, might be different on Ubuntu
[10:58] <crimsun> grndslm: no. Approximately 5 months of development work has been done on 2.6.15. We're not simply going to discard it.
[10:58] <odat> anyone know anything about kino
[10:58] <patrick52222> geneo93: wat do i do to it
[10:58] <geneo93> sudo nvidia-settings
[10:58] <frank23> introvert: when I first used breezy amd 64 I set up a chroot but always had problems with it. I want those problems to disappear. I'm sure they will eventualy.
[10:58] <odat> i need to configure it for quicktime export and i'm not sure how
[10:58] <Chousuke> Needing 32 bit emulation in 64 bit ubuntu is a bit of a special case.
[10:58] <interneti> odat kino is one thing cinelerra is a beast
[10:58] <patrick52222> command not found
[10:59] <hippie23> HOLY %@#$!.... 636 people in here... never know one # could have that many
[10:59] <patton> http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net <-down http://acm.cs.umn.edu/ubp/<-down :(
[10:59] <grndslm> crimsun, i was under the assumption that once 2.6.15 was stable, it would become 2.6.16...even numbers are stable, odds are unstable...maybe i have a reading disability
[10:59] <introvert> patrick52222: apt-get nvidia-settings
[10:59] <Chousuke> most Ubuntu software is free anyway, and works just fine as 64-bit native.
[10:59] <patrick52222> nvm got it running now thanks for the help
[10:59] <geneo93> patrick52222:  then you dont have nvidia enabled
[10:59] <introvert> hippie23: According to distrowatch, Ubuntu IS the most popular distro atm
[10:59] <YukiCuss> grndslm, that only applies to the minor version number (ie. 2.x)
[10:59] <Karmander> hello I need help to install an ISA soundblaster awe card
[10:59] <hippie23> yeah
[10:59] <odat> interneti, well i must have mistyped earlier i need kino to export in quicktime
[10:59] <frank23> Chousuke: a special case maybe but commercial software will target 32bit linux first. I want those to run easily
[10:59] <grndslm> ahh...i see
[10:59] <hippie23> its awsome
[11:00] <introvert> lol
[11:00] <hippie23> I run ubuntu on my p3 and my g3
[11:00] <crimsun> grndslm: no, 2.6 is the newest stable branch
[11:00] <introvert> #gentoo has over 950 people ;]
[11:00] <interneti> odat I probably misunderstood
[11:00] <Chousuke> frank23: You can always install a completely 32 bit Ubuntu then :)
[11:00] <patrick52222> i goit the settings up now how do i enable the tvout bit
[11:00] <interneti> fyrestrtr you here?
[11:00] <YukiCuss> frank23, I'd recommend installing i386 anyway, as Chousuke says. Few packages make use of a 64-bit processor.
[11:00] <frank23> Chousuke: that is what I did. I'm just saying I'll use amd64 when those things are easier
[11:00] <introvert> crimsun: So, your sticking with 2.6.15 and not moving on to 2.6.16 anytime soon?
[11:00] <odat> interneti, it tells me to configure kino with the --with-quicktime        but reconfigure doesn't do it  i don't know how they want me to do it
[11:00] <crimsun> introvert: not for Dapper, no.
[11:01] <Chousuke> frank23: 64 bits doesn't really give you any benefits unless you have loads of memory anyway
[11:01] <introvert> Chousuke: Not true :\
[11:01] <frank23> YukiCuss: I did. I'm running i3896 ubuntu on a amd64 processor
[11:01] <hippie23> only problem is, the monitor on my iMac is all meesed up.. too dim, low gamma, geometry off... I need a program to set all that, I had it in OS9 but cant find anything like it in linux
[11:01] <chmod775> folks I am trying to remove my mysql
[11:01] <chmod775> ashish@ash:~$ dpkg -l | grep mysql
[11:01] <YukiCuss> Chousuke, ... o_O *loads*?
[11:01] <chmod775> pi  libmysqlclient12                       4.0.24-10ubuntu2                     mysql database client library
[11:01] <chmod775> pi  libmysqlclient14                       4.1.12-1ubuntu3.1                    mysql database client library
[11:01] <chmod775> pi  mysql-common                           4.0.24-10ubuntu2                     mysql database common files (e.g. /etc/mysql
[11:01] <geneo93> patrick52222:  shout be list in diplay
[11:01] <chmod775> pi  python-mysqldb                         1.2.1c3-1ubuntu1                     A Python interface to MySQL
[11:01] <YukiCuss> frank23, as am I. :)
[11:01] <chmod775> pi  python2.4-mysqldb                      1.2.1c3-1ubuntu1                     A Python interface to MySQL
[11:01] <Karmander> can you help me I need help to install an ISA soundblaster awe card
[11:01] <YukiCuss> !pastebin
[11:01] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[11:01] <YukiCuss> chmod775, ^^
[11:01] <crimsun> Karmander: what model sb?
[11:01] <basvg> stansell: right, I upped the loglevel a little. it is doing a lot of ReadClient stuff over http at the moment. I'll see what happens when I send a testpage
[11:01] <introvert> Chousuke: You should really wikipedia architectual differences between x86_64 and x86 :) (x86_64 not to be confused with 'itanium 64')
[11:01] <Karmander> crimsun an awe 16
[11:01] <YukiCuss> !tell chmod775 about pastebin
[11:01] <Madpilot> chmod775, next time, pastebin...
[11:02] <chmod775> yes sure
[11:02] <Karmander> crimsun do you have any idea?
[11:02] <grndslm> is everybody in agreement that if one were going to install dapper they should keep the 386 kernel?
[11:02] <geneo93> grndslm:  yes
[11:02] <crimsun> Karmander: pastebin the output from ``lspnp -v''
[11:02] <introvert> Does Ubuntu have a i686 copy?
[11:03] <YukiCuss> introvert, I don't believe such a thing is defined. (i686)
[11:03] <stansell> basvg, on the client, try http://server:631/ in your web browser
[11:03] <frank23> introvert: It's funny linux (and Linus) calls it x86_64 even though amd developped amd64. just to have a vendor neutral designation
[11:03] <hippie23> yeah.. I run the i686 kernel on my p3
[11:03] <chmod775> I installed mysql packages and this can along with these http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10820
[11:03] <YukiCuss> frank23, it's cross-compatible with EM64T, though.
[11:03] <stansell> basvg, it might tell you the URI to use
[11:03] <introvert> frank23: x86_64 is for AMD64 and EMT64
[11:03] <chmod775> I want to remove them how can I do it ?
[11:03] <kangpeh> Hi, is there a way to keep certain applications in a virtual desktop, and not allow it to appear on another desktop (such as GAIM and new GAIM IM windows)?
[11:04] <basvg> that gives me a connection refused
[11:04] <hippie23> what is EMT 64?
[11:04] <introvert> YukiCuss: i686 is the latest architecture for x86 processors?
[11:04] <odat> interneti, you there?
[11:04] <hippie23> is that intel?
[11:04] <introvert> Intel's shot at x86_64
[11:04] <frank23> YukiCuss: introvert: I know. but intel copied the amd instruction set. amd was the originator
[11:04] <YukiCuss> introvert, noted, but there are no package differences which have been deemed that would actually make a difference.
[11:04] <odat> what is the proper way to reconfigure a program with certain settings
[11:04] <YukiCuss> introvert, err, I repeated myself. I believe a consensus was reached that there was no use in using i686, as there was very little to gain, and they'd only suffer incompatibilities.
[11:04] <chmod775> how do I rmeove them i did a apt-get remove purge on them but it's prompt to remove even ubuntu-dektop
[11:04] <chmod775> ?
[11:05] <Madpilot> chmod775, the ubuntu-desktop package isn't that important
[11:05] <interneti> odat I really have no way to help atm its 4am where I am and I got to sleep basly
[11:05] <interneti> badly
[11:05] <basvg> stansell: hmm, I'll try 'n connect to that from the server itself.. can't connect to it from client side
[11:05] <stansell> basvg, ok - connection refused makes sense because the tcp listener isn't enabled
[11:05] <introvert> YukiCuss: I haven't looked into details as the differences to i686 and i386, so I wouldn't know
[11:05] <chmod775> oh! ubuntu-desktop will remove my gnome right ?
[11:05] <introvert> YukiCuss: I mean, as in the differences in between kernel performance.. :P
[11:05] <basvg> stansell: any clue how to enable the tcp listener?
[11:05] <YukiCuss> introvert, for some reason I was searching about it recently; try googling a little, you might find the results.
[11:05] <interneti> but id download from source and try afain
[11:05] <kapputu> does Dapper use x.org?
[11:05] <Madpilot> chmod775, no
[11:05] <^Odd^> can someone help me figure out why i am getting such a crappy fps in glx gears with a card that used to put out a higher framerate then it does now? something in ubuntu is slowing the card down and or disabling the agp somehow
[11:05] <chmod775> ok cool
[11:06] <chmod775> what is ubuntu-desktop for ?
[11:06] <YukiCuss> kapputu, all signs point to yes.
[11:06] <geneo93> mandriva only supports 586 and up
[11:06] <Madpilot> chmod775, it's a meta-package for all sorts of things, but by itself it's not important
[11:06] <kapputu> YukiCuss: so you mean I can get those translucent windows?
[11:06] <YukiCuss> geneo93, hence, it has compatibility issues.
[11:06] <chmod775> k
[11:06] <stansell> basvg, on the server, in the printer administration, does Global Setting -> Detect LAN printers give you a warning about security?
[11:06] <introvert> kapputu: Yes, Dapper supports XGL
[11:06] <chmod775> so I can go ahead and uninstall it right
[11:06] <chmod775> ?
[11:06] <YukiCuss> kapputu, that's *Xgl*. x.org is a standard X distribution.
[11:06] <kapputu> does anyone know about nubuntu?
[11:07] <geneo93> YukiCuss:  with 486's maybe
[11:07] <YukiCuss> geneo93, they're important to keep in perspective.
[11:07] <interneti> kapputu just downloaded the iso
[11:07] <kapputu> well, how do I get Xgl working?
[11:07] <introvert> kapputu: XGL adds OpenGL rendering to x.org, adds features such as a cubicle virtual desktop thingie, wobbly windows, fading, etc
[11:07] <Karmander> crimsun what i have to do with this information?
[11:07] <ROBOd> guys ... any of you has disabled gdm?
[11:07] <introvert> kapputu: There's a howto in the wiki
[11:07] <YukiCuss> kapputu, please search the Wiki; there's a lot of information on it.
[11:07] <kapputu> interneti: my wireless wasn't detected and X failed to start
[11:07] <YukiCuss> ROBOd, sure.
[11:08] <ROBOd> YukiCuss: good, then ... how do you switch from gnome to kde and whatever desktop/window manager you have? from command line, before startx
[11:08] <interneti> damn@ I just deleted it
[11:08] <basvg> stansell: that option was already checked
[11:08] <hippie23> im outta her... got to go to bed
[11:08] <hippie23> good night
[11:08] <stansell> basvg, I just cliecked OK for the warning, and I think it added the UDP listener
[11:08] <geneo93> YukiCuss:  besides i doubt if you could stuff enough ram in a 486 to even run gui
[11:08] <crimsun> Karmander: did you place it on pastebin?
[11:08] <ROBOd> hippie23: good night
[11:08] <eFfeM> hi, installed dapper flight 5 on  my system a week or so ago, got 2.16.15-18-386, then I installed the 686 variant, but now upgrade has brought the 386 version to .19, but not the 686 version.
[11:08] <basvg> stansell: hmmm, I don't have that option on my client machine
[11:08] <kapputu> interneti: you just deleted what?
[11:08] <YukiCuss> geneo93, requirements are low, even for GUI. Think of servers, though?
[11:08] <eFfeM> is there a way to fix this?
[11:08] <YukiCuss> ROBOd, it depends how you decided to disable GDM.. I suppose you could just create a link from /etc/init.d/kdm to /etc/rc2.d/S70kdm.
[11:09] <YukiCuss> eFfeM, remove the 386 package.
[11:09] <eFfeM> tnx
[11:09] <malv__> are backports dangerous?
[11:09] <hippie23> one more thing... dapper drake <--- does the "drake" part mean its based on mandrake or is it still debean based?
[11:09] <Karmander> crimsun what does pastebin means?
[11:09] <introvert> hippie23: Debian
[11:09] <crimsun> !tell Karmander about pastebin
[11:09] <basvg> interesting... which package/option gives me the 'browse for LAN priners' option ?
[11:09] <hippie23> ok
[11:09] <ROBOd> YukiCuss: i will disable gdm from System > Administration > Services
[11:09] <Madpilot> hippie23, it's just the nickname for the 6.06 release
[11:09] <hippie23> that kinda threw mw off
[11:10] <Madpilot> malv__, they can be
[11:10] <introvert> Debian-based releases have these screwy nicknames ;]
[11:10] <ROBOd> YukiCuss: in that case ... how do i change the desktop environment/
[11:10] <frank23> I agree. ubuntu should target 586 (Pentium) as the lowest common denominator. people who want to run 386 or 486 should be able to find something else
[11:10] <YukiCuss> ROBOd, do you want a different desktop environment, or login manager? Theyr'e separate.
[11:10] <stansell> basvg, I think it controls the "browsing" option for cupsd
[11:10] <malv__> yea, i wasnt able to load gnome
[11:10] <malv__> perhaps a backport issue
[11:10] <hippie23> good night
[11:10] <YukiCuss> frank23, why? There's not a noticable performance difference between running 386 or 586 on most x86s.
[11:10] <crimsun> frank23: that's not acceptable for things like edubuntu and xubuntu
[11:10] <introvert> frank23: I agree, MOSTLY because Ubuntu isn't really an ideal for a server or anything low-resource..
[11:10] <malv__> anyways, I reinstalled ubuntu (took 5 minutes) and things seem ok now
[11:10] <ROBOd> YukiCuss: i know they are different
[11:10] <basvg> stansell: I think so too... but still, I don't have the option in System=>adminsitration=>printing on my laptop
[11:10] <kapputu> I'm donwloading dappner now
[11:10] <ROBOd> YukiCuss: i want a different desktop environment
[11:11] <kapputu> let's see how this goes
[11:11] <YukiCuss> ROBOd, in that case, .. let me check!
[11:11] <Madpilot> introvert, Ubuntu w/o X/GUI runs nicely as a server...
[11:11] <^Odd^> so can anyone help me figure out what is going on with my nvidia card i have tryed everything i can think of and i cannot get it's speed within normal range (100-200 fps) can someone help me figure out what is slowing down glx gears and giveing me such crappy framerates?
[11:11] <kapputu> YukiCuss: has anyone tried using Enlightenment?
[11:11] <geneo93> YukiCuss:  it makes a big difference on smp machines
[11:11] <YukiCuss> kapputu, there's an entire project for it, `ebuntu.'
[11:11] <introvert> kapputu: I use enlightenment
[11:11] <YukiCuss> geneo93, so *they* should be targetted seperately
[11:11] <ROBOd> kapputu: i have tested enlightenment
[11:12] <introvert> E17 is sexy
[11:12] <introvert> ;)
[11:12] <ROBOd> kapputu: interesting project, very interesting
[11:12] <geneo93> YukiCuss:  there is no smp kernel for dapper
[11:12] <stansell> basvg, that does seem odd
[11:12] <Karmander> crimsun it's ready
[11:12] <introvert> Enlightenment used to be the window manager for Gnome, you know.
[11:12] <ROBOd> kapputu: if you have a fast internet connection, get elive CD to see it
[11:12] <kapputu> ROBOd: I liked Enlightenment 0.17 or whatever it's called
[11:12] <YukiCuss> geneo93, yes, but I'm saying that if we chose to keep SMP kernels in view, we should do *them* separately, and not migrate everything to predate 386/486.
[11:12] <frank23> YukiCuss: crimsun, introvert: I wonder though how many people actually use 486 or lower... If it's more than 1% fine, but I doubt it is
[11:12] <Karmander> crimsun posted as Karmander
[11:12] <ROBOd> introvert: yes
[11:12] <stansell> basvg, the cupsys README.Debian file include "edit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf; the access controls are at the end of the file"
[11:12] <ROBOd> kapputu: yes, E17
[11:13] <crimsun> frank23: a non-negligible percentage do
[11:13] <basvg> stansell: eh sorry? I don't understand what you mean
[11:13] <crimsun> Karmander: I'll look in 10 minutes, busy atm
[11:13] <kapputu> I cannot find the download link
[11:13] <kapputu> I see the packages
[11:13] <Toma-> lots of people use 486's as storage and clusters
[11:13] <stansell> basvg, I was quoting from /usr/share/doc/cupsys/README.Debian.gz
[11:13] <Karmander> thank you crimsun i'll be waiting
[11:13] <kapputu> is there a link to the ISO?
[11:13] <basvg> stansell: ah ok ;)
[11:14] <YukiCuss> ROBOd, I'm unsure if this is used by startx, but see the file ~/.dmrc
[11:14] <kapputu> when I installed Enlightement a few months back, it wasn't working
[11:14] <introvert> kapputu: An iso for what?
[11:14] <behemoth> is there any prerequisites for "mount -t nfs ip:share" to work?
[11:14] <kapputu> introvert: iso for ebuntu
[11:14] <introvert> kapputu: You can always apt-get the ebuntu project and switch your wm to it
[11:14] <basvg> stansell: perhaps a hickup in gnome on the client.. I'll restart gnome, one sec
[11:14] <geneo93> Toma-:  if they dont spend money on os then they can afford to buy aleast a pentium system
[11:14] <stansell> basvg, I think the deny and allow settings in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf control the tcp listener(s?)
[11:14] <YukiCuss> geneo93, that's not a valid argument at all.
[11:15] <Toma-> geneo93: its not that, its just making use of old components
[11:15] <Toma-> why throw out a perfectly good PC?
[11:15] <geneo93> YukiCuss:  it sure is 20 bucks can buy a p2 system here
[11:15] <introvert> Well, I think Ubuntu should have seperate releases for i386, i486, i586, and i686..
[11:15] <introvert> ;\
[11:16] <YukiCuss> geneo93, people live in different places. `Here' is an important word to leave in there; others may not have 20 bucks, others might not have them available at the price anyway.
[11:16] <artimo> introvert just volunteered to be a maintainer. - lol
[11:16] <Toma-> introvert: you ever seen the speed differences in compiled apps between 386 and 686 optimizations?
[11:16] <odat> anyone know kino?
[11:16] <kapputu> geneo93: 20 bucks is Rs.1000 in India, a month's pay for a lot of people
[11:16] <introvert> Toma-: If someone made an i686 kernel, and you have an i686 system, it's stupid to use an i386 kernel, period.
[11:16] <kapputu> man, I would like learn some python and help you guys
[11:16] <artimo> so are older machines exported?
[11:17] <kapputu> I need a mentor though and need to be told what to do
[11:17] <YukiCuss> kapputu, Python's good.
[11:17] <geneo93> kapputu:  if thats the case then they have no use for a computer
[11:17] <kapputu> I'm good with Perl and found Python to be easy
[11:17] <Toma-> introvert: again. once you see the actual speed differences, youll see what im talking about.
[11:17] <schmity> what should i call my torrent site?
[11:17] <kapputu> but I'm not motivated enough
[11:17] <introvert> Toma-: I've used both the i386 and i686 kernels, and I didn't notice anything.. but I rest my case with my last saying
[11:17] <Toma-> what ever.
[11:18] <kapputu> YukiCuss: I don't get you
[11:18] <Spliffster> high room. is it possible to go back to an older version of a package even if i haven't put it on hold ?
[11:18] <basvg> stansell: I set those to 'Allow from all'
[11:18] <kapputu> yeah that's what I'm saying
[11:18] <kapputu> if I don't know what to do with the language, then there is no motivation to become an expert in it
[11:18] <YukiCuss> kapputu, that could be an issue all the time.
[11:18] <Karmander> can you help me how can i read mp3 files??
[11:18] <YukiCuss> !tell Karmander about restricted
[11:18] <kapputu> well, which is why I'm looking for someone to help me out
[11:19] <Toma-> !mp3
[11:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:19] <YukiCuss> kapputu, see private query.
[11:19] <Karmander> thankz ubotu :)
[11:19] <^Odd^> ok so i am gusseing that no one here has a clue has to whats fscking up my video card huh?
[11:20] <stansell> basvg, OK - does a restart enable tcp for <IP_ADDRESS>:631 ?
[11:20] <YukiCuss> ^Odd^, have you installed NVIDIA binary drivers?
[11:20] <introvert> ^Odd^: Do you have an Nvidia video card, and haven't installed/enabled nvidia-glx?
[11:20] <Toma-> ^Odd^: youre using glxgears to benchmark?
[11:20] <YukiCuss> introvert, o_o
[11:21] <Toma-> glxgears isnt a benchmarking tool
[11:21] <introvert> YukiCuss: PCI-E, 'course
[11:21] <^Odd^> yes invidia card is installed  and i installed the nvidia drivers i was t told to install in cedega
[11:21] <basvg> stansell: nope, still the same :(
[11:21] <^Odd^> and glxgears is giveing the benchmark
[11:21] <introvert> ^Odd^: Did you enable nvidia?
[11:21] <^Odd^> yes
[11:21] <Toma-> ^Odd^: did you enable nvidia in xorg.conf?
[11:21] <introvert> ^Odd^: How'd you do that, edited xorg.conf manually or used nvidia-glx-config enable?
[11:21] <^Odd^> i enabled invidia in xorg,conf
[11:21] <introvert> ^Odd^: Try typing in 'nvidia-glx-config enable'
[11:22] <^Odd^> ok
[11:22] <frank23> introvert: I don't know why I get only 211.709 FPS. My card is not that bad (Geforce FX 5900) and 3d games work fine
[11:22] <geneo93> sudo first
[11:22] <stansell> basvg, that's what I'm seeing too
[11:22] <introvert> ^Odd^: Restart X after you type that in and try
[11:22] <Madpilot> frank23, if real 3d stuff works fine, ignore glxgears
[11:22] <^Odd^> sudo: nvidia-glx-config: command not found
[11:22] <^Odd^> shane@FoamY:~$
[11:23] <introvert> frank23: No idea, My buddies Radeon 9600 got 6,000 fps
[11:23] <Toma-> ^Odd^: you compiled the nvidia drivers from nvidia?
[11:23] <^Odd^> yes
[11:23] <frank23> Madpilot: that's what I'm doing. just wondering what causes the low glxgearsd fps
[11:23] <Toma-> ahh.
[11:23] <Toma-> silly
[11:23] <vivek> my apt-get is not working, abt my internet is fine..what do i need to do?
[11:23] <geneo93> sudo: nvidia-glx-config enable
[11:23] <introvert> Aren't the nvidia drivers in the repository horribley outdated? (6***?)
[11:23] <^Odd^> the latest driver i am told makes the agp not work
[11:24] <^Odd^> so i downloaded drivers from nvidia
[11:24] <basvg> reinstall of the client packages of cups didn't fix it :(
[11:24] <Toma-> ^Odd^: can you use the ubuntu compiled drivers instead?
[11:24] <vivek> my apt-get is not working, abt my internet is fine..what do i need to do?
[11:24] <^Odd^> they give the same results
[11:24] <vivek> the apt-get just dies down tryign to resolv <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:24] <^Odd^> no matter what i am getting the crappyest framerate with ubuntu when it used to give me the best
[11:24] <vivek> ???
[11:24] <kadaj> how to install irssi?
[11:24] <^Odd^> you don't need to
[11:24] <Toma-> ^Odd^: so what drivers have you installed?
[11:24] <introvert> ^Odd^: The ubuntu drivers contain a utility to automatically configure your xorg 'nvidia-glx-config enable'
[11:25] <introvert> ^Odd^: If you try nvidia-glx-config enable you'll know if xorg.conf is configured right or wrong
[11:25] <^Odd^> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7676-pkg1.run
[11:25] <introvert> ^Odd^: 7676 is old
[11:25] <^Odd^> thats what i was told to download
[11:25] <^Odd^> because the new current driver
[11:25] <Toma-> who told you to get that?
[11:25] <frank23> good night all ;_
[11:25] <^Odd^> dose not support agp
[11:25] <^Odd^> someone in cedega
[11:25] <Toma-> *sigh*
[11:25] <geneo93> hehe
[11:26] <Toma-> uninstall it ^Odd^ and just use the ubuntu ones
[11:26] <^Odd^> i don't know how >.<
[11:26] <introvert> ^Odd^: So, the<PHONE_NUMBER>9488394 people who use the latest nvidia drivers and have AGP are f'd?
[11:26] <Toma-> ^Odd^: that is, "sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7676-pkg1.run --uninstall"
[11:26] <Madpilot> hi ompaul
[11:26] <geneo93> funny i have 8xagp and it works fine
[11:26] <DarkMageZ> ^0dd^: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:26] <ompaul> hi Madpilot
[11:27] <Toma-> ive got the latest kernel + nvidia drivers and it works fine. (mind you, had to patch nvidia drivers for kernel 2.6.16)
[11:27] <geneo93> use the nvidia installer to remove drivers
[11:27] <^Odd^> shane@FoamY:~$ sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7676-pkg1.run --uninstall"
[11:27] <^Odd^> uninstall
[11:27] <^Odd^> >
[11:27] <^Odd^> thats all it does it just freezes
[11:27] <Toma-> get rid of the "
[11:27] <^Odd^> duh lol
[11:27] <stansell> basvg, cupsd.conf also has a Listen directive
[11:27] <Toma-> >_<
[11:28] <introvert> ^Odd^: Then "apt-get nvidia-glx" and once nvidia-glx is done, try "nvidia-glx-config enable", restart X, and see if it worked
[11:29] <basvg> stansell: I'll check that one out too
[11:29] <stansell> basvg, also - there are multiple Allow directives in the conf file
[11:30] <Gabriel> ...
[11:30] <Epothes> so i need some help with my laptop
[11:30] <YukiCuss> !helpme
[11:30] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[11:31] <Epothes> oh
[11:31] <^Odd^> brb let you know if it works
[11:31] <Epothes> !helpme
[11:31] <YukiCuss> Epothes, please just ask your question.
[11:31] <Epothes> ok...
[11:31] <Dr_Fate> anyone running 64bit desktop, in spite of proprietary sh*t not working mostly?
[11:31] <Epothes> my laptop is working fine but linux turns the screen off when i turn on Xorg
[11:31] <basvg> right, I'll go over the entire cups settings file... thanks so far
[11:31] <Epothes> otherwise it works fine in console mode
[11:31] <YukiCuss> Dr_Fate, I was not too long ago.. I can remember most things; what's up?
[11:32] <introvert> Epothes: Probably a resolution/vsync/hsync problem
[11:32] <introvert> Epothes: Try running xorgconf, xorgcfg, xorgconfig or whatever
[11:32] <Dr_Fate> just like to know why was and not still running it?
[11:32] <Epothes> the screen just turns off but i dont get any errors
[11:32] <introvert> Epothes: Try running xorgconf, xorgcfg, xorgconfig or whatever
[11:32] <robinl1> ..
[11:32] <robinl1> ohh
[11:32] <YukiCuss> Dr_Fate, I'm going to be installing amd most likely when Dapper release comes up; it's just because my friend got the i386 ISO for himself, so I just installed from that (too lazy to download amd64 F5 ..)
[11:32] <robinl1> ... i said it in the wrong channel
[11:33] <introvert> Like I said, probably a resolution/vsync/hsync problem
[11:33] <Epothes> hmm
[11:33] <Epothes> okay then ill try that out...
[11:33] <introvert> try all 3, i forget which one, heh
[11:33] <geneo93> dpkg-reconfigure server-xorg
[11:33] <robinl1> introvert: i'm ssh'ing in his pc, they aren't there (the tools)
[11:34] <introvert> robinl1: What geneo93 said :)
[11:34] <^Odd^> ok i did what you all said
[11:34] <^Odd^> and it crashed X >.<
[11:34] <^Odd^> i cannot boot into gui now >.<
[11:34] <introvert> ^Odd^: Why not
[11:34] <robinl1> introvert: already tried that - doesnt help
[11:34] <^Odd^> don't know got some sorta blue screen
[11:34] <^Odd^> and then the command prompt that i had to log into
[11:35] <introvert> robinl1: Try setting the default color depth, and resolution to say.. 640x480 and 256 colors.
[11:35] <YukiCuss> authorized_keys2, chmod go-rwx, now!
[11:35] <robinl1> okay
[11:36] <^Odd^> what happend to my gui?
[11:36] <introvert> ^Odd^: You did nvidia-glx-config enable, right?
[11:36] <^Odd^> yes
[11:36] <Intangir> omg 600 people..
[11:36] <^Odd^> and it said iti worked
[11:36] <YukiCuss> Intangir, this is regular load.
[11:37] <Intangir> i just installed ubuntu dapper drake
[11:37] <introvert> ^Odd^: Hmm, does it say anything about it in your virtual terminal?
[11:37] <introvert> Intangir: #ubuntu+1 for dapper
[11:37] <Intangir> my soundcard was working for on it earlier, i played stuff from xmms using alsa
[11:37] <Intangir> and now its not working
[11:37] <Intangir> oh.. kay
[11:37] <robinl1> Epothes, what do you see?
[11:37] <Epothes> screen turned off
[11:37] <introvert> Intangir: Have you tried alsamixer ?
[11:37] <stansell> basvg, the Listen directive enables the tcp listener
[11:37] <^Odd^> yea it just totally died on me lol
[11:37] <robinl1> damn
[11:37] <s|k> http://www.sharewonders.com/test/buttons_lol.html <--- drag and droppable ubuntu buttons :/
[11:37] <robinl1> introvert: resolution changing doesnt help
[11:37] <basvg> stansell: so I should set Listen to which value?
[11:38] <introvert> robinl1: Any errors, in particular?
[11:38] <koad> Intangir: you use ubuntu dapper drake flight cd 5?
[11:38] <Intangir> when i try to run alsamixer it comes up with a bunch of errors
[11:38] <robinl1> introvert; not really
[11:38] <Intangir> ya
[11:38] <jaggy> I was wondering about the local caching of ip lookups...
[11:38] <introvert> Intangir: Try alsaconf
[11:38] <Intangir> brb
[11:38] <jaggy> I changed our ns records for an IP but from firefox as well as shell the lookups are still returning the old ip..
[11:38] <robinl1> AUDIT: Sun Mar 26 01:37:43 2006: 9246 X: client 6 rejected from local host
[11:38] <robinl1> Synaptics DeviceOff called
[11:38] <Intangir> not found hehe
[11:38] <stansell> basvg, I set mine to the IP address for eth0
[11:38] <^Odd^> i just tryed doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg and it tells me that it's not installed!
[11:38] <aucirob> hello ppl, I just downloaded and decompress Gkrellm on my desktop, how do I installe it?
[11:39] <^Odd^> what the hell is going on here
[11:39] <^Odd^> O_o
[11:39] <introvert> robinl1: If you want and your friend want, I can probably ssh and try
[11:39] <introvert> ^Odd^: It's not xserver.xorg
[11:39] <Epothes> okay
[11:39] <robinl1> introvert: go ahead
[11:39] <Epothes> ill private message you
[11:39] <robinl1> Epothes: give him the passwro
[11:39] <robinl1> d
[11:39] <robinl1> XD
[11:39] <gostview> hi all
[11:39] <^Odd^> oh whats the proper command to fix it
[11:39] <jaggy> okay, it refreshed.. maybe just the timeout stuff.. hmm
[11:40] <Epothes> erm
[11:40] <Epothes> i forgot how to leave centericq to get to the console
[11:40] <robinl1> just press Ctrl+Z
[11:40] <robinl1> :P
[11:40] <robinl1> it's not the best way, but its good enough
[11:40] <^Odd^> ok so i gusse i have no gui anymore >.<
[11:40] <nlogax> ^Odd^ it's xserver-xorg
[11:40] <^Odd^> oh ok
[11:41] <nlogax> hy-phen  :-)
[11:41] <introvert> You all would be suprised what you can do without Xorg
[11:41] <introvert> heh
[11:41] <robinl1> indeed introvert xD
[11:41] <aucirob>  Can anybody help  I just downloaded and decompress Gkrellm on my desktop, how do I installe it?
[11:41] <basvg> so `listen <IP_ADDRESS>` ... but if I do that then I get errors in my cups error log
[11:41] <robinl1> I almost forgot the true power of linux
[11:41] <bimberi> ^Odd^: xserver-xorg
[11:41] <spacey> robinl1: might as well use ctrl+c then
[11:41] <robinl1> spacey: on ncurses apps? i think not
[11:41] <introvert> something you know nothing about.
[11:41] <introvert> 00:23 -!- toni__<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu
[11:41] <introvert> 00:23 < chmod775> I was just cross checking dude
[11:41] <introvert> 00:23 < grndslm> Frogzoo, do you know which would be best...i don't think i'll be able to use gtkrecover
[11:41] <introvert> oops!
[11:42] <spacey> robinl1: works fine :)
[11:42] <robinl1> :P
[11:42] <Epothes> private messaged you the information
[11:42] <robinl1> spacey: k
[11:42] <introvert> I'm not on X, with a virtual terminal mouse kernel option enabled
[11:42] <introvert> it's wacky
[11:42] <robinl1> introvert: tell me the crazy stuff you have got on your beautiful console setup :P
[11:42] <robinl1> introvert: then give me a tutorial on using the console to its most and stuff
[11:43] <robinl1> cuz i DO love the console
[11:43] <introvert> robinl1: Lol, maybe later :}
[11:43] <nlogax> introvert: props!
[11:43] <robinl1> :{ aww please?
[11:43] <gostview> anyone can help me, I'm going to compile wxgtk 2.6.2 and got error : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10822
[11:43] <Karmander> crimsun could you read it?
[11:43] <introvert> I must try to help epothes now
[11:43] <crimsun> Karmander: no, I'm still busy
[11:43] <robinl1> same for me
[11:43] <robinl1> i'm helping him too
[11:43] <Karmander> ok sorry
[11:43] <stansell> basvg, you probably also need to have an Allow inside the proper Location directive
[11:44] <robinl1> okay after we helped him then
[11:44] <robinl1> k?
[11:44] <robinl1> ^^
[11:44] <robinl1> Epothes: you seeing anything?
[11:44] <Epothes> no
[11:44] <Epothes> why?
[11:44] <robinl1> ahh, he's logged in
[11:44] <robinl1> can i use write on you introvert?
[11:44] <Toma-> gostview: what does config.log say?
[11:45] <bimberi> gostview: have you installed the build-essential metapackage?
[11:45] <steffen> is here anyone who know a place where i can get some nice themes for my ubuntu with gnome ?
[11:45] <gostview> bimberi: what...? metapackege, I think not... well, I dunno
[11:46] <^Odd^> ok still diden't work i still have no gui it says it cannot find something called nvidia.ko
[11:46] <artimo> gnome-look.org
[11:46] <^Odd^> this is getting me mad enough to go back to windows
[11:46] <bimberi> gostview: try installing that
[11:46] <YukiCuss> steffen, gnome-look.org, art.gnome.org
[11:46] <^Odd^> >.<
[11:46] <^Odd^> now i have not only no games but i have no gui now either
[11:46] <tobi-wan> ^Odd^: you trying to install nvidia drivers?
[11:46] <^Odd^> >.<
[11:46] <gostview> bimberi: ok... I'm going to do that...
[11:47] <Toma-> ^Odd^: you need linux-restricted-modules aswell
[11:47] <^Odd^> i have all that stuff
[11:48] <null_> hello
[11:48] <robinl1> is there a tutorial on how to use the console to its full potential?
[11:48] <aucirob> Is this correct command?   Sudo install gkrellm?
[11:48] <bimberi> !cli
[11:48] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[11:48] <^Odd^> i had the ubuntu drivers from the get go then they gave me crappy fps so i got the ones from nvidia and they did the same then i came in here and someone told me to uninstall the nvidia drivers and reinstall the ubuntu nvidia ones and now i am stuck here.
[11:48] <null_> any one upgrAaded memory on existing ubuntu install ?
[11:48] <bimberi> robinl1: ^^^^
[11:48] <nlogax> aucirob: gkrellm2 I think
[11:48] <gostview> bimberi: said impossible to find  build-essential metapackage, what exactly is the command ?
[11:49] <tobi-wan> ^Odd^: i can only speak from my experiences with ati, which were similar
[11:49] <^Odd^> so now i have no gui and no idea
[11:49] <nlogax> aucirob: if in doubt, use 'aptitude search word' and it will find every app with word in the name
[11:49] <bimberi> gostview: did you 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' ?
[11:49] <robinl1> bimberi: thanks :D
[11:49] <bimberi> robinl1: yw :)
[11:49] <basvg> stansell: ok, now I can at least see the cups web thingy :)
[11:49] <gostview> bimberi: yap
[11:49] <nlogax> ^Odd^, so what happens when you run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[11:49] <basvg> that's a start
[11:50] <^Odd^> iit seems to work
[11:50] <^Odd^> i reboot and x crashes with some error
[11:50] <^Odd^> and forces me to login text only
[11:50] <gostview> bimberi: ok ok, gone....
[11:50] <netman1> ^Odd^: apt-get install nvidia-glx
[11:50] <^Odd^> *sigh* already did that
[11:50] <bimberi> gostview: sorry, not with you?
[11:50] <tobi-wan> ^Odd^: what i finally did, i installed the native ati-drivers and recompiled my kernel without DRI support
[11:51] <^Odd^> it was working fine before i came in here
[11:51] <^Odd^> well not fine but i had gui
[11:51] <btw1> hi, who is good enough to send me a latest ubuntu CD? I am going to switch from freebsd to ubuntu. ^_^
[11:51] <tobi-wan> ^Odd^: you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and switch to a native driver to get the gui back
[11:51] <YukiCuss> btw1, you should say where you live!
[11:51] <btw1> YukiCuss, Central China
[11:51] <stansell> basvg, cool - hopefully you're most of the way there now
[11:51] <nlogax> tobi-wan: shouldn't dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg allow him to choose driver?
[11:51] <^Odd^> i did that the drivers that are running the computer are the nvidia ones
[11:52] <^Odd^> i checked xorg.conf and it does say nvidia
[11:52] <YukiCuss> btw1, !
[11:52] <tobi-wan> well, actually, i think this one selects the most appropriate driver automatically
[11:52] <myki> Is there any unicode font in ubuntu? I have an app when I should choose such font, but I cant find any
[11:52] <tobi-wan> ^Odd^: try vesa as driver, instead, it's really generic :-)
[11:52] <nlogax> tobi-wan - hmm, there's a way to get it to prompt
[11:52] <tobi-wan> but you should get X back
[11:53] <tobi-wan> hmm... i always prefer editing text files ;-)
[11:53] <^Odd^> the damn nvidia driver used to work monthes ago
[11:53] <^Odd^> what the hell changed and the vesa drivers i never had a need for
[11:53] <basvg> ok, now I need to figure out the printer name
[11:53] <basvg> that's all
[11:53] <tobi-wan> ^Odd^: if you have the patience, we'll step it through one step at a time, ok?
[11:53] <^Odd^> ok
[11:54] <tobi-wan> does X work using vesa?
[11:54] <^Odd^> i do not and will not use vesa
[11:54] <geneo93> tobi-wan:  he had nvidias drivers installed also
[11:54] <tobi-wan> ok :-)
[11:54] <tobi-wan> native nvidia package?
[11:54] <koad> guys,i have a question
[11:54] <geneo93> no from nvidia
[11:54] <tobi-wan> that's what i meant
[11:55] <geneo93> native is to os
[11:55] <koad> how to share printer windows printer with ubuntu?
[11:55] <tobi-wan> geneo93: ok, i have a weird nomenclature, i admit :-D native meaning 'native to nvidia'
[11:55] <geneo93> native meaning ubuntu
[11:56] <tobi-wan> ok, the other way round, ^Odd^: what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log tell you?
[11:56] <nlogax> tobi-wan - might pay to confirm that the nvidia drivers were installed from pkg, not by d/l from Nivida site
[11:56] <tobi-wan> exactly what i had in mind :-D
[11:56] <gostview> bimberi: install build essential but compiling got same error
[11:56] <^Odd^> tobi-wan: ok here is the run down i installed ubuntu then used the sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx and ran ok but crappy fps really horrible fps...then i went into #cedega and they told me to get the drivers from nvidia which i did then they told me that the current drivers diden't support agp and to get the slightly older ones and i did then i came in here looking for help and someone told me to uninstall the nvidia drivers and reinsta
[11:56] <tobi-wan> ^Odd^: best try a cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep 'EE'
[11:56] <^Odd^> now i have no gui
[11:56] <geneo93> well he need to use installer to remove all remnents of files then
[11:56] <^Odd^> how i am in irssi
[11:57] <tobi-wan> i see
[11:57] <nlogax> tobi-wan: or simply grep 'EE' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:57] <tobi-wan> true, that
[11:57] <geneo93> before he installs ubuntus
[11:57] <^Odd^> >.<
[11:58] <^Odd^> i have no gui and i am in irssi how do i...>.<
[11:58] <tobi-wan> ok, my suggestion: first, uninstall the nvidia deb packages. then do a find / -name 'nvidia*' and remove all stray packages, this should really clean up your filesystem
[11:58] <bimberi> gostview: kk, back to Toma-'s question then - what does config.log say?
[11:58] <geneo93> ^Odd^: if you did that with gui rinning it didn't work
[11:58] <robbie_> does alien work well? I want to install gyachi
[11:58] <stansell> basvg, this may be useful: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[11:58] <basvg> stansell: in the wb interface it says: Device URI: hp:/usb/PSC_1500_series?serial=MY58BD22490498
[11:58] <robbie_> new yahoo client with voice & video
[11:58] <robbie_> just released
[11:58] <basvg> but that seems an odd device name
[11:59] <robbie_> it has rpms for both it and libyahoo2
[11:59] <eFfeM> hi, when I try to mount an external NFS partition I get: mount: RPC: Program not registered
[11:59] <eFfeM> what couldbe wrong here? This has always worked...
[11:59] <robbie_> the source package did not compile
[11:59] <robbie_> claiming syntax errors
[11:59] <stansell> basvg, yeah - I think that's the servers URI for the local printer
[11:59] <gostview> bimberi: just minute, I'm just find that config.log file in /var/log without success
[12:00] <geneo93> robbie_:  maybe on behalf of gcc 4.0.2
[12:00] <basvg> I'll try the wiki pag
[12:00] <robbie_> I see
[12:00] <basvg> e
[12:00] <geneo93> install older version
[12:00] <robbie_> does the official breezy distro have 4.0.2 yet?
[12:00] <stansell> basvg, I was hoping the interface would also the URI that a client would use, but I guess not
[12:00] <geneo93> and point it at that
[12:01] <bimberi> gostview: it should be in the directory where you ran './configure'
[12:01] <^Odd^> no i installed all the drivers in cli
[12:01] <gostview> bimberi: ^^
[12:01] <geneo93> ^Odd^:  when you removed them
[12:01] <robbie_> aha it works
[12:02] <robbie_> alien gyachi*rpm
[12:02] <robbie_> dpkg -i gyachi*deb
[12:02] <robbie_> hopefully runs error free
[12:02] <^Odd^> i have a simple solution i am just going to reformat my computer and reinstall ubuntu again and then the nvidia-glx drivers and hope that it works
[12:02] <wasabi[1] > hello
[12:02] <stansell> Basvg, I expet it'll be something like this: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:631/printers/PSC_1500_series
[12:02] <geneo93> ^ its your time
[12:02] <nlogax> robbie_ let us know how it goes - I might be interested in becoming a package maintainer to get it into Ubuntu
[12:02] <wasabi[1] > i'm trying to install drivers for my marvell 88E8001 network card
[12:03] <wasabi[1] > and i get an error about missing kernel header file
[12:03] <bimberi> gostview: sorry, i'm not sure what you mean by ^^?
[12:03] <wasabi[1] > could anyone please help me with this?
[12:03] <tobi-wan> ^Odd^: :-D best wishes. if you have no crucial data on you comp :-D
[12:03] <robbie_> well I just logged in fine, going to find a webcam to view
[12:03] <bimberi> wasabi[1] : sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:04] <wasabi[1] > thank you!
[12:04] <bimberi> wasabi[1] : not yet, make sure it works first :)
[12:04] <^Odd^> thanks
[12:04] <tobi-wan> np
[12:04] <tobi-wan> check back if you still got problems
[12:04] <^Odd^> well thank you to the person who fucked up my computer really appriciate you trashing all my hard work due to your ignorance.
[12:05] <wasabi[1] > yep it's going
[12:05] <crimsun> Karmander: ping. pastebin url?
[12:05] <gostview> bimberi: just (I was silly to find that file in /var/log) however, here the config.log: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10824
[12:06] <bimberi> wasabi[1] : :)
[12:06] <wasabi[1] > hmm
[12:06] <wasabi[1] > =(
[12:06] <basvg> time to go... I'll figure it out some time... thanks for the help stansell
[12:06] <wasabi[1] > installer
[12:06] <bimberi> gostview: ah, kk, looking...
[12:06] <wasabi[1] > still says missing header
[12:06] <stansell> basvg, you're very welcome - time for me to go now too
[12:07] <wasabi[1] > hmm i need to do a symbolic link
[12:07] <wasabi[1] > let me try that
[12:07] <AndyA> hi. I have a greeter application crashing error on ubuntu 5.10 amd64. Can anyone help me?
[12:08] <Karmander> crimsun ok
[12:08] <Karmander> crimsun what i have to do?
[12:08] <crimsun> Karmander: did you pastebin it?
[12:08] <crimsun> Karmander: I don't have the url handy.
[12:08] <Karmander> yes
[12:08] <wasabi[1] > woohoo
[12:08] <wasabi[1] > it works
[12:08] <wasabi[1] > thanks!!!
[12:08] <ubuntu> ciao
[12:08] <wasabi[1] > you guys are geniuses!
[12:09] <AndyA> Greeter application problem, people. On ubuntu 5.10 amd64. Anyone?
[12:09] <Karmander> crimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10821
[12:09] <Karmander> crimsun have you got it?
[12:09] <nlogax> AndyA: you mean GDM crashing before you get to log in?
[12:09] <bimberi> gostview: sorry, it doesn't seem to have any good clues as to what's wrong
[12:09] <Karmander> crimsun please i need to hear something
[12:10] <bimberi> gostview: and neither do i ... :/
[12:10] <Intangir> how do i see what version of xorg is installed/
[12:10] <crimsun> Karmander: yes, just give me a sec. I'm attempting to do several things simultaneously before I go to bed.
[12:10] <Karmander> ok sorry, thank you pal
[12:11] <ubuntu> probabilmente mi rivolgo al canale sbagliato e mi scuso. E' possibile installare ubuntu su hd slave
[12:11] <crimsun> Karmander: ok, your sb card is not PnP-compatible
[12:11] <crimsun> Karmander: do you know the precise model?
[12:11] <Karmander> crimsun what does it mean?
[12:11] <Karmander> sound blaster awe 16
[12:12] <Karmander> crimsun do you need something else?
[12:12] <crimsun> Karmander: try: sudo modprobe snd-sbawe
[12:12] <geneo93> about 10,000 different ones all called that
[12:12] <Karmander> crimsun ok
[12:12] <crimsun> (it'll probably fail)
[12:12] <AndyA> I believe it has something to do with GBO; I have PNY NVIDIA quadro FX1100. Other people who had simillar problem solved it by reconfiguring xorg, but when I try that I got error messages.
[12:12] <Trunkz> hey folks, I've got a problem with firefox
[12:12] <Karmander> crimsun done
[12:13] <robbie_> nlogax: viewing webcam works, dunno about sending havent got one..
[12:13] <crimsun> Karmander: no errors, or errors?
[12:13] <Trunkz> It seems to crash up everytime I start it
[12:13] <Karmander> crimsun no
[12:13] <crimsun> Karmander: cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:13] <Karmander> crimsun i have no message
[12:13] <Kalessin> hi
[12:13] <Karmander> crimsun Sound Blaster 16 at 0x220, irq 5, dma 1&5
[12:13] <geneo93> robbie_:  where did you get rpm
[12:13] <Karmander> crimsun is it ok?
[12:13] <gostview> bimberi: ok, thank
[12:14] <robbie_> http://gyachi.sourceforge.net
[12:14] <crimsun> Karmander: pastebin ``amixer -c0''
[12:14] <Toma-> ooo isa sound card?
[12:14] <gostview> bimberi: *tnx
[12:14] <robbie_> when I ran voice chat it did not launch
[12:14] <Toma-> isnt it snd-sb16?
[12:15] <crimsun> Toma-: not if it's an awe model.
[12:15] <crimsun> the pins are routed differently
[12:15] <Karmander> crimsun i also have an onboard pci soundcard, c-media, but i don't want to use it
[12:15] <Toma-> ahh touch
[12:15] <aucirob> Im trying to install Gkrellm ad when I use apt get  to install it i get this error...E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied )
[12:15] <aucirob>
[12:15] <Karmander> crimsun i take off the connector so i don't know if it is working right
[12:15] <Trunkz> anyone? :)
[12:15] <crimsun> Karmander: have you pastebinned the output from the command?
[12:16] <Toma-> ive got an old sb16 ISA downstairs :D its awesome in an mp3box
[12:16] <crimsun> Trunkz: execute it from a Terminal
[12:16] <crimsun> Trunkz: where does it crash? What error(s) do you get?
[12:16] <Toma-> i dare say im excited about installing win2k in qemu...
[12:16] <Trunkz> I dont get an error
[12:16] <Trunkz> I load it up
[12:16] <Karmander> crimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10827
[12:17] <Trunkz> and you see the lil Firefox thing on the bottom of ur screen (on the taskbar)
[12:17] <Trunkz> takes about 10 - 15seconds
[12:17] <Trunkz> then that goes
[12:17] <Trunkz> the actual firefox 'window' doesnt show
[12:17] <aucirob>  /join #linux?
[12:17] <crimsun> Karmander: ok, pastebin the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards''
[12:17] <Frogzoo> Toma-: kqemu is worth a go - it's quicker than qemu
[12:18] <AndyA> greeter application crashing error on Ubuntu 5.10 amd64. Anyone?
[12:19] <Trunkz> I'm using swiftfox atm, but it doesnt seem to install my extensions properly
[12:19] <Trunkz> if I can get that fixed, then I wont need to worry about firefox
[12:19] <Trunkz> Since I much rather prefer swiftfox to firefox :)
[12:20] <Trunkz> Crimsun, any ideas? Either with firefox or swiftfox's extension problem
[12:21] <crimsun> Trunkz: I barely use firefox. The only reason it's still around is because it provides a backend for epiphany-browser
[12:22] <Frogzoo> looking for a hint how to get 'typing monitor' to acknowledge amarok keystrokes while the screen is locked?
[12:22] <Trunkz> ahh okey
[12:22] <Trunkz> well I guess I'll stick with swiftfox. Any chance of you helping me with the extension problem/
[12:22] <Karmander> crimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10828
[12:23] <Trunkz> The extensions are downloaded fine etc.. but some arent installed properly :o
[12:23] <Trunkz> For example, when I install foxytunes & restart swiftfox, I then go to set the player module (XMMS)
[12:23] <crimsun> Karmander: heh, just as I suspected
[12:23] <Trunkz> and it says no player module is installed
[12:23] <crimsun> Karmander: do you use gnome or kde?
[12:23] <Trunkz> whereas when I do this in firefox, player modules are already there
[12:24] <Karmander> crimsun using gnome
[12:24] <wasabi[1] > arg
[12:24] <neo911> hi i forgot what do i need to install to have the man pages for bind, accept and other system calls available? thx
[12:24] <wasabi[1] > i'm trying to install xgl from the wiki guide
[12:24] <crimsun> Karmander: then you need to choose the sb awe as your default card. System> Preferences> Sound> default sound card
[12:25] <wasabi[1] > i can't start X now
[12:25] <wasabi[1] > lol
[12:25] <crimsun> Karmander: then use the volume control, and select the alsa view of the sb awe to adjust the volume
[12:27] <aucirob> What is this error mean, what im doing wrong? E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:28] <L|nu}{> aucirob: synaptic is up and running, and you try to apt-get via terminal
[12:28] <bimberi> neo911: there probably in the manpages-dev package
[12:28] <bimberi> aucirob: did you use 'sudo'
[12:28] <aucirob> no
[12:28] <crimsun> ->bed.
[12:28] <L|nu}{> or sudo of course.. hehe
[12:29] <bimberi> nn crimsun
[12:29] <aucirob> I use sudo apt-get install gkrellm and i git this E: Couldn't find package gkrellm
[12:30] <aucirob> and I have the compress file and decompressed folder on my Ubuntu Desktop.
[12:30] <Karmander> crimsun my sound crashed
[12:31] <bimberi> aucirob: glrellm can be installed by enabling the universe repository...
[12:31] <bimberi> !universe
[12:31] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:32] <AndyA> greeter application error... ubuntu 5.10 amd64. Anyone?
[12:32] <aucirob> How do i do that?
[12:32] <neo911> bimberi, thanks that's the one... done it before but forgot and just wanted to write it down for posterity... thx
[12:32] <bimberi> aucirob: this might be useful too - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[12:32] <aucirob> Im new in linux
[12:32] <aucirob> thanks a lot , I appreciate your help
[12:33] <bimberi> neo911: np  :)  (i typo'd btw - should have said 'they're')
[12:33] <bimberi> aucirob: check the link in ubotu's post above
[12:33] <nlogax> AndyA: what is GBO?
[12:33] <bimberi> aucirob: yw :)
[12:33] <irvs10tz> why is it i can't use thesaurus in openoffice writer
[12:34] <neo911> bimberi, ah didn't even notice... :-)
[12:35] <wasabi[1] > is there a way to mod the terminal so that it can do auto complete?
[12:35] <bimberi> neo911: ha,  i know others who do though :)
[12:35] <wasabi[1] > like in windows where i type the directory and hit tab
[12:35] <wasabi[1] > and it finishes up
[12:35] <neo911> hah! pedantics :-)
[12:35] <bimberi> neo911: that's them!
[12:36] <neo911> i know i'm addressing it to them he he
[12:36] <geneo93> console tools may help
[12:36] <neo911> is it true that someone forgot to change the computer time to daylight savings and so the intarweb will expire and implode??  oh noes
[12:36] <bimberi> wasabi[1] : shell tab-complete works here
[12:37] <nlogax> wasabi[1] : that's the default behaviour of bash and most other modern shells (it's not a feature of the terminal you're running)
[12:37] <bimberi> !tell greenpenguin13-a about away
[12:37] <nlogax> neo911: oh noes!!!
[12:37] <wasabi[1] > hmm
[12:37] <wasabi[1] > i hit tab and it doens't do anything
[12:38] <bimberi> greenpenguin13-a: onya! :)
[12:38] <neo911> msg bimberi
[12:38] <nlogax> what shell are you running? which terminal? and is it possible another application is taking the tab input?
[12:38] <bimberi> wasabi[1] : what if you type 'lsm<tab>'?
[12:38] <bimberi> neo911: sure
[12:38] <venky> hello
[12:39] <venky> anyone here knows wine
[12:39] <venky> ?
[12:39] <bimberi> well ... ok then :P
[12:39] <Toma-> venky: alot of people do.
[12:39] <geneo93> dago red
[12:39] <venky> ok
[12:39] <venky> i recently installed wine
[12:39] <Toma-> !enter
[12:39] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[12:39] <venky> then i ran wincfg
[12:40] <bimberi> wasabi[1] : that completes to 'lsmod' for me
[12:40] <venky> ??
[12:40] <ompaul> irvs10tz,  openoffice.org2-thesaurus-en-gb  is one of them
[12:40] <venky> was it for me??
[12:40] <Toma-> venky: keep it all in 1 line, otherwise its reallllly hard to read
[12:40] <Toma-> yes.
[12:40] <venky> ok
[12:41] <nlogax> AndyA: what is GBO??
[12:41] <wasabi[1] > oo okay
[12:41] <wasabi[1] > nvm
[12:41] <wasabi[1] > i'm soo noobish
[12:41] <ompaul> !enter
[12:41] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[12:42] <venky> i recently installed wine , then ran winecfg didnt do anything to the default settings. then i downloaded a windows program to the desktop and installed it using wine "program name"
[12:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> does anyone know how to write keyboard maps? my keyborad doesnt work properly and i'd like to fix it
[12:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> *board
[12:42] <venky> now the program is installed and it put a shortcut in th desktop but how shud i run the installed program
[12:42] <Trunkz> Meh, is there an extension in Epiphany similar to FoxyTunes?
[12:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> clidk on the shortcut
[12:43] <Trunkz> Thats the only extension I really want.. =/
[12:43] <Trunkz> So I can control XMMS
[12:43] <Toma-> venky: find out where it installed it usually ~/.wine/c/ and run 'wine ProgramExecutable.exe'
[12:44] <venky> how do i change directory i mean i dont see /.wine in my desktop is it hidden
[12:44] <nlogax> venky: any filename beginning with '.' is hidden, yes
[12:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> venky: open nautilus and press <ctrl L>
[12:44] <Toma-> venky: open up a terminal and run "cd ~/.wine/c/"
[12:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> then type "~/.wine"
[12:44] <wasabi[1] > for xgl to run properly, i have to be using dapper right?
[12:45] <MisterN> hi
[12:45] <Toma-> wasabi[1] : indeed.
[12:45] <ompaul> wasabi[1] , yes
[12:45] <aucirob> I managed to install Gkrellm, thanks to all for all, I did learn a lot.
[12:45] <venky> ty
[12:45] <venky> let me try it
[12:45] <ompaul> wasabi[1] , go to the channel #ubuntu+1 for help with that
[12:45] <bimberi> aucirob: glad to hear it :)
[12:45] <griffle> Q on xine. how do I apt get it? a post was telling me to use xine to test a dvd folder.. i have totem which i thought used xine but then im  a nuube.
[12:45] <wasabi[1] > okay
[12:45] <wasabi[1] > thanks
[12:45] <Toma-> woot. win2k sux under qemu :D
[12:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> Toma-: lol
[12:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> griffle: it's in apt
[12:46] <geneo93> it sucks under 2k
[12:46] <griffle> cant see it in apt-cache search?
[12:46] <nlogax> griffle: try aptitude search xine and pick your packages
[12:47] <venky> how shud i change directory to Program Files its not taking the space
[12:47] <irvs10tz> why is it i can't use thesaurus in openoffice writer
[12:47] <Toma-> griffle: if you rather use your mouse, try using synaptic. also, youll need to enable universe
[12:47] <Toma-> !universe
[12:47] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:47] <Toma-> venky: Program\ Files or 'Program Files'
[12:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> irvs10tz: check you have a thesaurus for your language installed
[12:48] <irvs10tz> Kamping_Kaiser, how can i do that?
[12:48] <venky> ok I found the exe in the directory now shud i just do wine PROGRAM?
[12:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> irvs10tz: open language selector and make sure the tick is ther on language aids
[12:48] <venky> ls
[12:49] <Toma-> venky: thats it
[12:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> "system -> admin -> language support" on my comptuer
[12:49] <Toma-> venky: also, you may need to cross your fingers :)
[12:50] <mikelo> hi how do find and replace a string recursively in a directory of files
[12:50] <Trunkz> Hmm.. I just downloaded epiphany (the browser). From apt its version 1.8.2, but the latest (and stable) version according to the site is 2.14.0
[12:50] <mikelo> ?
[12:50] <irvs10tz> Kamping_Kaiser: where is language selector found?
[12:50] <venky> oh man it worked thank you very much
[12:50] <dli> Kamping_Kaiser, how to set language, if I'm not running the default gnome?
[12:50] <Toma-> venky: np
[12:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> dli: set language? not sure
[12:50] <venky> Toma is there a way i can see this in my gnome desktop and execute it from there?
[12:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> irvs10tz: system -admin -> language support (as above)
[12:50] <nlogax> mikelo: I think you'll want to use find and sed together
[12:51] <griffle> ok bear with me please. if totem is working doesnt that mean xine is installed? or am i using gstreamer and so with installing xine mess that up
[12:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> dli: the same placed irvs10tz is looking youcan install more languages - try that
[12:51] <mikelo> find . | sed ... what?
[12:51] <mikelo> i'll look up man sed
[12:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> griffle: when you goto install xine it will tell you if it's removeing stuff
[12:51] <gostview> anyone knows is there any repository to update wxGTK library?
[12:52] <nlogax> mikelo: something like -  find /dir/to/replace/in/filespec -exec sed 's/oldtext/newtext/g' {} \;
[12:52] <Toma-> venky: yep. right click ya desktop and select create launcher. Put in the Name of the program (eg. Fluffy Kitten Killer) and in command put 'wine /path/to/your/executable/fluffykill.exe' and then change the icon and hit ok
[12:52] <nick|here> i installed eclipse using apt-get, but i cant locate where the eclipse folder is
[12:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> Toma-: ROFL
[12:52] <Toma-> nick|here: run it, and ill create one in your home dir
[12:52] <nlogax> mikelo: actually this is better (makes backups):  find /dir/to/replace/in/filespec -exec sed -i.bak 's/oldtext/newtext/g' {} \;
[12:52] <Toma-> s/ill/it'll
[12:53] <Toma-> Kamping_Kaiser: :)
[12:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[12:53] <mikelo> tnx nlogax
[12:53] <nlogax> that's from memory - might require some fine-tuning but man can help ya
[12:53] <bimberi> dli: OOo thesauri (?) seem to have their own packages ...
[12:53] <venky> so i wud have to start with ~/.wine?
[12:53] <bimberi> !find openoffice.org-thesaurus
[12:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'openoffice.org-thesaurus' (3 shown): openoffice.org-thesaurus-de ;; openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us ;; openoffice.org-thesaurus-it.
[12:53] <mikelo> nlogax, what's  {} \; ?
[12:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> mikelo: 'on the file i just found'
[12:54] <edulix> hello !
[12:54] <griffle> maybe its gxine - the xine video player, GTK+/Gnome user interface
[12:54] <nlogax> mikelo: actually, you can't put filespec -  something like -  find /dir/to/replace/in -iname'filespec' -exec sed 's/oldtext/newtext/g' {} \;
[12:54] <nick|here> Toma-: i want to installation folder
[12:54] <nick|here> s/to/the
[12:54] <Toma-> griffle: you want xine-ui
[12:54] <edulix> I have many version of the same package in /var/cache/apt/archives, anyone has a way to retain only the last one installed?
[12:54] <Toma-> nick|here: i c
[12:54] <griffle> thanks toma
[12:55] <nick|here> Toma-:  ??
[12:55] <Toma-> nick|here: id say its /usr/lib/eclipse
[12:55] <nlogax> mikelo: if you don't use the -i parameter to sed it won't update the files but will show each file on stdout as it would be if the change was made
[12:55] <nick|here> i'm going to install phpeclipse
[12:55] <nick|here> is it the right place?
[12:56] <Toma-> nick|here: try running "sudo updatedb" then "locate eclipse"
[12:56] <Toma-> youll find it then
[12:56] <nick|here> Toma-: thanx
[12:56] <Toma-> np
[12:56] <Toma-> ps. updatedb is slow
[12:56] <Toma-> not as slow as this crappy win2k installer
[12:57] <Toma-> *sigh*
[12:57] <nick|here> i tried locate, but nvm updatedb
[12:57] <venky> ?
[12:57] <venky> Toma i mean the path how shud I mention the path
[12:57] <Toma-> venky: yeh, ~/.wine
[12:58] <Chousuke> ToinS: of course updatedb is slow. It scans the whole HD :P
[12:58] <Toma-> venky: ~/.wine/c/Program\ Files/
[12:59] <wasabi[1] > how do you uninstall the nvidia-glx?
[12:59] <fyrestrtr> wasabi[1] : why do you want to remove it?
[01:00] <irvs10tz> Kamping_Kaiser: i've already installed other language packs, but how come theasaurus and synonyms are still not available in openoffice?
[01:00] <venky> thank you toma for all the help
[01:00] <wasabi[1] > i want to install the nvidia linux driver
[01:00] <Toma-> wasabi[1] : 'apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx' and you might need to stop /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx from loading at boot too
[01:00] <Toma-> venky: np
[01:00] <Toma-> irvs10tz: you havent installed them. theyre in thier own package
[01:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> irvs10tz: not sure. i expected that to be the cause. if you uahve restarted OO.o i cant think of a reason
[01:01] <wasabi[1] > hmm
[01:01] <wasabi[1] > thanks
[01:04] <venky> sorry toma another problem ..well the launcher closes the terminal window...but i think the application needs the terminal window to be there how shud i make it be open con the application is not launched i can see the terminal window comeup and go
[01:04] <Toma-> venky: theres a "Run in terminal button" when creating a launcher...
[01:05] <venky> ya i checked it
[01:05] <irvs10tz> Toma-: well, how can i install them?
[01:05] <Toma-> so whats hapepning?
[01:05] <irvs10tz> Toma-: well, how can i install them?
[01:05] <venky> thats makes the terminal window come up and vanish
[01:05] <Toma-> !find openoffice.org-thesaurus
[01:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'openoffice.org-thesaurus' (3 shown): openoffice.org-thesaurus-de ;; openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us ;; openoffice.org-thesaurus-it.
[01:05] <Toma-> apt-get install openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us
[01:06] <guerra> what it means in irc when it says i must be identified to join a channel?
[01:06] <irvs10tz> toma-: the terminal says  Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[01:07] <Toma-> irvs10tz: you know what sudo is? :)
[01:07] <digits> quick question: which package holds the font "Terminal"?
[01:07] <bimberi> !tell guerra about register
[01:07] <irvs10tz> toma-: i'm sorry but i don't know
[01:07] <venky> so what shud i do to keep the terminal window open
[01:08] <Toma-> irvs10tz: if youre copy and pasting, run "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us"
[01:08] <Toma-> also, read !sudo
[01:08] <Toma-> venky: you want it to run and leave the terminal open?
[01:08] <fyrestrtr> guerra: means you must register your nick. type /msg nickserv help register
[01:08] <guerra> thanks ppl
[01:09] <Toma-> bbl.
[01:10] <venky> ya
[01:10] <irvs10tz> toma-: i read for the terminal that my openoffice suite will be removed if thesarus will be installed
[01:10] <venky> i mean the program isnt launching if the terminal is closed
[01:10] <irvs10tz> toma-: i read for the terminal that my openoffice suite will be removed if thesarus will be installed
[01:11] <fyrestrtr> venky: run the terminal first
[01:11] <r0b4t> Hi all
[01:12] <venky> well then there is no point in creating a shortcut
[01:12] <irvs10tz> toma-: i read for the terminal that my openoffice suite will be removed if thesarus will be installed
[01:12] <venky> i mean i want the shortcut to run the program in terminal window and keep it open ..it seems wine wants to keep the terminal open
[01:13] <Toma-> irvs10tz: do you understand bbl?
[01:13] <Toma-> irvs10tz: whats the exact package that says is going to be removed?
[01:13] <Solsh> does Photoshop CS work under wine?
[01:13] <AndyA> hi. I have a greeter application crashing problem on ubuntu 5.10 amd64
[01:14] <Toma-> Solsh: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[01:14] <guerra_>  /msg nickserv link guerra apple56
[01:14] <AndyA> but that's not the end of it. I got errors when running 'sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg' it says conflicting actions --control and --remove
[01:15] <AndyA> what does that mean?
[01:15] <Toma-> venky: ok, change the program getting run to "xterm -e 'wine ~/.wine/c/Program/and/so/on/woot.exe' "
[01:15] <Seveas> guerra_, /msg nickserv set password new_password
[01:15] <Toma-> damnit.
[01:15] <Toma-> why do people quit when theyre waiting for help
[01:15] <irvs10tz> toma-: the package to be removed are   openoffice.org2 openoffice.org2-base openoffice.org2-calc
[01:15] <irvs10tz>   openoffice.org2-common openoffice.org2-core openoffice.org2-draw
[01:15] <irvs10tz>   openoffice.org2-evolution openoffice.org2-gnome openoffice.org2-impress
[01:15] <irvs10tz>   openoffice.org2-math openoffice.org2-writer python-uno ubuntu-desktop
[01:16] <wasabi[1] > hmm
[01:16] <Toma-> oh nos
[01:16] <MonsieurBon> hello
[01:16] <wasabi[1] > to install the nvidia drivers from the website
[01:16] <wasabi[1] > i jsut exit x and install it right?
[01:16] <Seveas> irvs10tz, NEVER EVER paste in here
[01:16] <Toma-> irvs10tz: weird. give me a moment. youre banned at the moment so dont bother talking
[01:16] <Seveas> irvs10tz, and openoffice.org2 has been renamed to openoffice.org so that's normal
[01:16] <bimberi> irvs10tz: (don't paste here) and check this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-95684.html
[01:16] <Toma-> Seveas: my bad, probably, sorry
[01:16] <wasabi[1] > i used this guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[01:17] <Seveas> ok ;)
[01:17] <wasabi[1] > and now x is not working at all
[01:17] <Toma-> :(
[01:17] <bimberi> lol
[01:18] <MonsieurBon> i installed mplayer for the plugin in FF and now mplayer is my standard videoplayer. How can I set the standard videoplayer back to totem?
[01:18] <Toma-> wasabi[1] : did you stop /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx starting at boot like i said?
[01:19] <AndyA> why doesn't NVIDIA have X11 drivers?
[01:19] <wasabi[1] > yea
[01:19] <wasabi[1] > i tried to remove it
[01:19] <Toma-> wasabi[1] : and what does the Xorg.0.log say?
[01:19] <wasabi[1] > and it said that file doesn't exist
[01:19] <nowotny> \j #ubuntu+1
[01:19] <Toma-> wasabi[1] : it might be /etc/init.d/nvidia
[01:19] <wasabi[1] > it said failed to load glx
[01:20] <wasabi[1] > failed to load nvidia-glx
[01:20] <wasabi[1] > ... which si why i am confused
[01:20] <gnomefreak> wasabi[1] : are you on breezy?
[01:20] <venky> anyone has linux on external hard drive
[01:20] <venky> ?
[01:20] <wasabi[1] > dapper
[01:20] <gnomefreak> wasabi[1] : thats why
[01:20] <wasabi[1] > i should be in the other channel to ask this
[01:20] <Toma-> *sigh* wasabi[1]  goto #ubuntu+1
[01:20] <gnomefreak> wasabi[1] : the enable command has changed for dapper
[01:21] <wasabi[1] > lol
[01:21] <wasabi[1] > sorry
[01:21] <Toma-> stop wasting my effort and time
[01:21] <wasabi[1] > thanks for your help
[01:21] <slack_prad> gtkpod : when i try to move video files (mp4) onto my ipod i get this message :  "The following track could not be processed (filetype is known but analysis failed): '/home/pradeep/Desktop/untitled folder/file.mp4"
[01:21] <wasabi[1] > lol sorry!
[01:21] <MonsieurBon> i installed mplayer for the plugin in FF and now mplayer is my standard videoplayer. How can I set the standard videoplayer back to totem?
[01:21] <venky> toma: is there anyway to run progrmas installed in ur NTFS partitions using wine?
[01:22] <gnomefreak> wasabi[1] : if you join us in #ubuntu+1 someone should know the command
[01:22] <kuja> venky: `wine <your_executable_windows_program>`
[01:22] <AndyA> I have a Greeter Application error on Ubuntu 5.10 amd64. Can Anyone help me?
[01:22] <venky> aslo i have installed ubuntu on the external USB hard drive and iam not able to see the files in my internal HDD
[01:22] <Fatal73> anybody know how to remove totem-gstreamer so that I can install totem-xine?
[01:23] <kuja> venky: Mount it
[01:23] <venky> even if the exe is in NTFS partition?
[01:23] <Toma-> venky: sort of. writing to ntfs is bad (iirc) so its possible that running a wine app on ntfs may not work
[01:23] <gnomefreak> Fatal73: sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[01:23] <kuja> venky: Yes because all you're doing is reading from it.
[01:23] <peterretief> whats a good vms
[01:23] <gnomefreak> Fatal73: it will remove what it needs to
[01:23] <kuja> venky: Make sure you've mounted the NTFS partition, though.
[01:23] <wasabi[1] > question, if the command lines change from version to version, how do you guys keep up to date with all of them?
[01:23] <venky> ok..i can see the partition i mean my laptop HDD but iam not able to see the file
[01:24] <irvs10tz> hey, am i still banned yet?
[01:24] <Toma-> irvs10tz: no
[01:24] <bimberi> irvs10tz: no :)  - did you check that ubuntuforums link?
[01:24] <Fatal73> gnomefreak:I dont have access to repositories so Im doing it manually with dpkg
[01:24] <gnomefreak> wonders if your banned how are you in here :(
[01:24] <venky> i mean in gdisks i can see the partition as /dev/hda but iam not able to see the files
[01:24] <gnomefreak> Fatal73: no internet access?
[01:24] <venky> i mean nothing happens if i  try to enable it
[01:25] <wasabi[1] > anyway, sorry about wasting your time earlier
[01:25] <wasabi[1] > thanks for help though
[01:25] <Fatal73> gnomefreak: thats the price of owning a winmodem
[01:25] <gnomefreak> oh no not those :(
[01:25] <bimberi> gnomefreak: it was a quiet but xchat just says '... sets ban on ...'
[01:25] <irvs10tz> bimberi: i have already checked it. can i download the thesaurus from the link in the 2nd post?
[01:25] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[01:25] <Toma-> anyone know if letting qemu see /dev/hdb which is vfat formatted, is safe enough to transfer files from the virtual drive to the physical drive?
[01:26] <myndmelder> Oh bother... I gone bad to geek mode... I blame Ubuntu!!! LOL
[01:26] <myndmelder> How is everyone
[01:26] <Gecko> Hello ppl. Running breezy on an amd64, and trying to install ati drivers while using the installer from their homepage. I can't make a distribution-based package, as the list is simply too long to be on my screen, and the regular install just puts the files on /usr/X11R6, which is useless. Any suggestions?
[01:26] <Toma-> Gecko: are the ati drivers 64bit?
[01:26] <Gecko> Toma-, yes
[01:26] <gnomefreak> !ati
[01:26] <ubotu> ati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[01:26] <venky> i mean i see my drives as /media/hda1 /hda2 etc but iam not able to see whats there inside it
[01:27] <bimberi> irvs10tz: i reckon you'll have to, i'm actually doing so as i type, if you wait a couple i'll let you know how it goes
[01:28] <kuja> venky: What do you mean you're "unable to see"?
[01:28] <Toma-> Gecko: make a link between /usr/X11R6 and the dir that they need to be in?
[01:28] <dreckslord> hi
[01:28] <kuja> Any specific error, or whatnot. What is that you *do* see?
[01:28] <venky> i mean i can see partition 1 partiton 2 partition 3 in disk manager
[01:28] <irvs10tz> bimberi, thanks.. i'll just wait a couple minutes after i downloaded this
[01:28] <venky> but when i enable it nothing happens
[01:28] <AndyA> I got errors when running 'sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg' it says conflicting actions --control and --remove
[01:28] <kuja> venky: No, when you do `ls /media/hd1` what do you see?
[01:28] <dreckslord> can some body help me with installing of acerhk, ?
[01:28] <kuja> err
[01:28] <kuja> hda1
[01:28] <Toma-> venky: put your /etc/fstab file up for inspection on pastebin
[01:28] <venky> wait
[01:28] <Toma-> !pastebin
[01:28] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[01:29] <Fatal73> so does anybody know how I can get rid of totem-gstreamer?
[01:29] <dpm> I've installed ubuntu on my laptop, but although it has an S3 savage graphics card, the "vesa" driver is loaded in xorg.conf. What I want to do is to modify xorg.conf to load the s3 driver instead. Does anyone know the name of the s3 driver (is it "savage")?
[01:29] <venky> nothing
[01:29] <venky> nothinghappens i get the command prompt
[01:30] <juke[FIN] > #kubuntu
[01:30] <bimberi> irvs10tz: heh, "depends on openoffice.org-core (>= 1.9); however: Package openoffice.org-core is not installed."
[01:30] <Toma-> dpm: running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will let you select any driver you want
[01:31] <void^> dpm: yes, "savage"
[01:31] <venky> my /media/hda2 is NTFS  hda1 and hda3 r vfat
[01:31] <MonsieurBon> i installed mplayer for the plugin in FF and now mplayer is my standard videoplayer. How can I set the standard videoplayer back to totem?
[01:31] <dpm> Toma-, void^ Thanks
[01:31] <Toma-> dpm: np
[01:31] <venky> dont know what it means
[01:32] <dreckslord> can somebody help me?
[01:33] <venky> what is pastebin toma
[01:33] <void^> !pastebin
[01:33] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[01:34] <irvs10tz> bimberi, what does that mean?
[01:34] <venky> i dont have a fstab directory
[01:34] <phreak97> nickrud, around?
[01:34] <kuja> fstab is a file.
[01:34] <kuja> It should be /etc/fstab
[01:34] <void^> venky: surely you have a regular file /etc/fstab
[01:35] <gnomefreak> dreckslord: qhat type of file is it?
[01:35] <phreak97> venky, open it in gedit or nano or something
[01:35] <venky> ya got it
[01:35] <venky> how to paste it in the pastebin
[01:35] <bimberi> irvs10tz: that debians naming is different to ubuntu's which calls it openoffice.org2-core
[01:35] <Naail> Noob question - do I need a firewall running linux?
[01:35] <gnomefreak> dreckslord: sudo apt-get install acerhk doesnt work?
[01:35] <bimberi> irvs10tz: i have force installed it (which is never a great thing to do) a quick check shows that it does appear to be working
[01:35] <venky> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[01:35] <venky> #
[01:35] <venky> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[01:35] <venky> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[01:35] <venky> /dev/sda3       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[01:35] <venky> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     vfat    defaults        0       0
[01:35] <venky> /dev/hda2       /media/hda2     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[01:35] <venky> /dev/hda3       /media/hda3     vfat    defaults        0       0
[01:35] <JAyRULE> ubuntu didnt detect my network card...what can i do?
[01:35] <venky> /dev/sda5       /media/sda5     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[01:35] <venky> /dev/sda6       /media/sda6     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[01:35] <venky> /dev/sda7       /media/sda7     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[01:35] <Toma-> !pastebin
[01:35] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[01:35] <venky> /dev/sda1       none            swap    sw              0       0
[01:35] <venky> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[01:35] <Jhair> venky: don't paste here, stop
[01:35] <Toma-> for gods sake.
[01:36] <gnomefreak> venky: dont paste in here
[01:36] <void^> some people..
[01:36] <TANATHOS> hahahahha
[01:36] <TANATHOS> did that already
[01:36] <venky> oh sorry
[01:36] <kuja> ..never read
[01:36] <TANATHOS> JAyRULE : ifconfig?
[01:36] <venky> pastebin:(
[01:37] <JAyRULE> oh..is that it? hehe
[01:37] <freeweber> hi
[01:37] <JAyRULE> iaght
[01:37] <TANATHOS> JAyRULE : lspci
[01:37] <slack_prad> venky paste it here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[01:37] <JAyRULE> whats that stand for
[01:37] <TANATHOS> list of pci devices
[01:38] <JAyRULE> k thanks tanathos
[01:38] <venky> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10837
[01:38] <venky> ok got it
[01:39] <dreckslord> is there someone who can help me, i speak german, too
[01:39] <TANATHOS> dreckslord state a question
[01:39] <jerusalem> subcool
[01:39] <venky> well i pasted it toma
[01:39] <jerusalem> shalom all
[01:39] <gnomefreak> dreckslord: can you sudo apt-get install acerhk?
[01:39] <Toma-> bbl
[01:39] <gnomefreak> its in the repos
[01:39] <Toma-> phone
[01:39] <TF> I used Places/Connect to Server for a Windows share.  Where did this get mounted in the file system? I'm using the livecd for 5.10.
[01:40] <jerusalem> i'm using the default (as far as I know) CD/.DVD Creator in Breezy and when I click write to disk it tells me to insert a disk w/ at least 666 megs free space. there is a 700 meg blank disk in there.
[01:40] <gnomefreak> !find acerhk
[01:40] <jerusalem> what do i do to make it write?
[01:40] <EvilGuru> I have been looking at auth.log and see: Mar 25 03:17:01 localhost CRON[6154] : (pam_unix) session opened for user root by (uid=0) every hour
[01:40] <Fatal73> !dpkg
[01:41] <jerusalem> any one?
[01:41] <dreckslord> how can i whisper you gnomefreak?
[01:41] <freeweber> can anyone help my with ati drivers?
[01:41] <freeweber> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10838
[01:41] <gnomefreak> dreckslord: i would rather you not
[01:41] <kingspawn> jerusalem: does writing with cdrecord work?
[01:42] <dreckslord> ok so, no i cant do apt-get
[01:42] <venky> anyone still here who is helping me?
[01:42] <dreckslord> the says me package not found
[01:42] <venky> or it seems ppl helping me have left?
[01:42] <Fatal73> venky, whats the problem?
[01:42] <jerusalem> what where is cdrecord?
[01:42] <kingspawn> jerusalem: it is a command line utility for writing cd's
[01:42] <gnomefreak> dreckslord: what kernel version do you have?
[01:43] <jerusalem> let me read the man page
[01:43] <dreckslord> 2.6.12-10-686
[01:43] <venky> it seems i am not able to browse my laptops internal HDD
[01:43] <void^> venky: add `,umask=022` at "defaults"
[01:43] <venky> well i am running linux from me external usb HDD
[01:44] <venky> where shud i add it
[01:44] <venky> ?
[01:44] <peterretief> dont you have to mount it
[01:44] <Fatal73> what fs is your laptops harddrive?
[01:45] <dreckslord> gnomefreak: i tried to compiled it manuel
[01:45] <venky> void: i mean where do u want me to add it ...did u see my fstab pastebin file
[01:45] <Gecko> ~ati
[01:45] <Gecko> sorry :) Could you post the ati links again? I am stuck without X right now :)
[01:46] <void^> venky: run `sudo gedit /etc/fstab`, for the partitions in question add what i said next to "defaults" (the options column)
[01:46] <selinium> !ati
[01:46] <ubotu> methinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[01:46] <selinium> Gecko, ^^^
[01:46] <Gecko> thanks .)
[01:46] <freeweber> can anyone help my with the ati drivers?
[01:46] <freeweber> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10838
[01:46] <fly-away> helloall
[01:46] <TANATHOS> !bird
[01:46] <ubotu> TANATHOS: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:46] <freeweber> hey
[01:46] <fly-away> in gnome 2.14 smb:// dont supported more?
[01:47] <jerusalem> kingspawn that man page is way too long and complex for me
[01:48] <jerusalem> can you give me a command line command to just try to write any old file to the cd to see if it works?
[01:48] <venky> like defaults,unmask=022
[01:48] <TF> Where is my Windows share mounted?  I have a lot of files I'd prefer to copy via term.
[01:48] <venky> what do i do with the zeros there
[01:49] <venky> i mean can u tell me how the whole like will look like
[01:49] <gnomefreak> dreckslord: from what im getting it is installed by default in the linux-restricted-modules package
[01:50] <irvs10tz> bimberi, i've just finished downloading.. now what is the next thing to do?
[01:50] <void^> !ntfs
[01:50] <ubotu> I guess ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows NT and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:51] <heyjoe2> im having real problems trying to get frostwire or limewire to work. ive asked on here a few times and tried to understand the wikis and gooogle info but im really struggling. could someone walk me through installing either limewire rpm or frostwire deb file
[01:51] <venky> void r u there?
[01:51] <Fatal73> does anyone know how to bind the windows key to something in ubuntu?
[01:51] <bimberi> irvs10tz: ok 'sudo dpkg -i --force-depends openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us_2.0.2-3_all.deb'  (note that --force* options are not usually a very good idea but should be OK in this case)
[01:51] <jerusalem> anyone?
[01:51] <jerusalem> cd burning issues
[01:51] <jerusalem> help
[01:51] <void^> venky: read what ubotu said, that should be the easier ubuntu way
[01:52] <dreckslord> can i poste you in a private message my log?
[01:52] <gnomefreak> dreckslord: use pastebin
[01:53] <venky> cant find what he said...where did he paste it?
[01:53] <dreckslord> ok i will try it
[01:53] <dreckslord> !pastebin
[01:53] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - Install webboard for easy pasting from the gnome taskbar ,
[01:53] <k31th> humm i have installed this pam_auth module and i get the following error.
[01:53] <k31th> [client <IP_ADDRESS>]  PHP Fatal error:  Call to undefined function:  pam_auth() in /var/www/html/moodle/auth/pam/lib.php on line 34, referer: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/moodle/login/index.php
[01:55] <heyjoe2> im having real problems trying to get frostwire or limewire to work. ive asked on here a few times and tried to understand the wikis and gooogle info but im really struggling. could someone walk me through installing either limewire rpm or frostwire deb file
[01:56] <dreckslord> gnomefreak i hope you can understand this, is there some way to translate it in english?
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> heyjoe2: have you tried the forums?
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> i havent used either app I'm afraid
[01:56] <abre> can anyone help me set up x-chat to auto receive downloads?
[01:56] <heyjoe2> kamping_kaiser: ive searched the forums and tried some of the tips but they havent worked
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> heyjoe2: bugger
[01:57] <heyjoe2> mm
[01:57] <Toma-> abre: Settings > Prefs > Network - File transfers, click "Auto accept file offers"
[01:57] <gnomefreak> dreckslord: what language is it?
[01:57] <dreckslord> german
[01:57] <kingspawn> jerusalem: cdrecord is mainly used for burning iso images - have you got one?
[01:57] <dreckslord> my post name is my nickname
[01:58] <venky> ok tried it..still cant read it
[01:58] <abre> Toma-, no such option
[01:58] <Toma-> abre: what xchat version is that?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> dreckslord: join #ubuntu-de for german than can help you more
[01:58] <abre> Toma-, 2.6.0
[01:58] <abre> Toma-, standard ubuntu one
[01:58] <dreckslord> ah ok that helps me really ^^
[01:59] <Toma-> abre: ive got 2.6.1
[01:59] <dreckslord> thanks :)
[01:59] <abre> Toma-, from pqat-get?
[01:59] <venky> void it didnt work
[01:59] <gnomefreak> abre: thats not standard in breezy iirc backports is the only way to get 2.6 xchat
[01:59] <venky> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10840
[02:00] <Toma-> abre: no, i compiled it. it might be in backports tho
[02:00] <venky> it ignored all the partitions
[02:00] <TF> Where is the Windows file share mounted (via Places, Connect to Server)? I want to copy files via term.
[02:00] <abre> gnomefreak, it comes with ubuntu?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> abre: iirc xchat 2.4 comes with breezy and to get 2.6 you have to enable the backports
[02:01] <void^> venky: well, remove the hda1, sda5-7 lines from fstab..
[02:01] <abre> gnomefreak, ahh i must have done that
[02:01] <MickMcMack> !amd64
[02:01] <ubotu> MickMcMack: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:01] <Toma-> instead of removing from critical files, just put a # at the start of the line you want to remove
[02:02] <gnomefreak> abre: than you _should_ get the 2.6.1 from updates but im not positive on that (i havent used breezy since like december)
[02:02] <venky> ok
[02:02] <abre> gnomefreak, nah i just tried and it says latest version
[02:02] <Toma-> abre: get the xchat source from xchat webpage and then run "sudo apt-get build-dep xchat" then builod the source
[02:03] <Gecko> I have a problem. I cannot run ati drivers accelerated, because I have run out of MTRR. Any suggestions? It is obviously because my bios is stupid, but I have no way of correcting it
[02:03] <abre> Toma-, ok
[02:03] <Toma-> abre: i gotta go
[02:03] <Toma-> good luck with it
[02:03] <venky> shud i leave hda 2 and hda 3
[02:03] <venky> ?
[02:03] <MickMcMack> Ahoy, in my ubuntu 64bit environment, glxinfo  says direct rendering is enabled, yet glxgears runs very slowly and produces no console output. However, in my 32bit chroot, glxinfo tells me direct rendering is disabled, yet glxgears gives an output of > 11k fps.
[02:03] <MickMcMack> Am I missing something here? >_>
[02:05] <venky> void: do u want me to remove hda2 and hd3 lines also
[02:05] <gego> hi!
[02:06] <void^> venky: put a # in front of all ntfs/vfat lines
[02:06] <MonsieurBon> can anybody tell me how to rip CD's with lame to mp3 with variable bitrate?
[02:06] <venky> ok
[02:07] <ssam> MonsieurBon, grip is quite good for ripping
[02:07] <TF> Different approach: I'm having permission problems on my mounted ext3 partition, copying to my windows share.  Any way to copy these anyway?  I'm using the Livecd 5.10 to back up my deceased gentoo install.
[02:07] <MonsieurBon> ssam, is it possible with soundjuicer?
[02:07] <ssam> MonsieurBon, the interface is fairly complex but has lots of options
[02:07] <gego> cd ripping ; sound juiser
[02:07] <gego> cd ripping = sound juiser
[02:08] <MonsieurBon> gego, do you know if soundjuicer can handle variable bitrates?
[02:08] <gego> nont know.. it uses ogg/vordis or ogg/flac (?)
[02:09] <venky> well i did that and saved it and ran diskmounter again but it shows the same messages
[02:09] <rhalff> anyone here is updating unstable with some background job ?
[02:09] <venky> i see the fstab is not edited by diskmounter
[02:10] <ssam> MonsieurBon, i think you need to create a mp3 profile for it
[02:10] <MonsieurBon> ssam, I did. and it works fine with 192k. I'm just curious if variabel would be possible...
[02:11] <k31th> how do i add a module to  my php.ini.
[02:12] <ssam> MonsieurBon, i am sorry i am not sure
[02:12] <deizi> how do i set hdb1 (ntfs) to read and write?
[02:12] <venky> void: are you there?
[02:12] <deizi> it only reads now
[02:13] <ssam> MonsieurBon, you could ask on #gstreamer they might be able to help
[02:13] <void^> venky: that script is stupid, you will have to actually remove the lines from fstab
[02:13] <twopeak> does anyone use amsn with webcam? does sound work?
[02:14] <rmetz> last night as i was playing around with gnome, my computer froze on me.  does any1 have any idea why that may have happened?  i was looking at the screensavers when my computer stopped responding.
[02:14] <void^> venky: cut and paste them to a temporary file
[02:14] <gego> i can even read ntfs... with breezy... dut i have a live cd with 4.10 and it will read...
[02:14] <MickMcMack> *I'm using an nVidia 7800GTX, so I don't see how it's a hardware problem. >_>
[02:14] <kingspawn> ssam: ever figure out that scripting question?
[02:14] <ssam> kingspawn, hi, yes i did
[02:14] <gego> i cant even read ntfs... with breezy... dut i have a live cd with 4.10 and it will read...*
[02:14] <kingspawn> ssam: what was the issue?
[02:14] <jenda> Anyone know what to do with a .prn file? I'd like to print it out.
[02:14] <ssam> kingspawn, the is a bash option extglob (extended globbing)
[02:15] <venky> ok shud i remove the lines i mean the whole lines from fstab
[02:15] <venky> for ntfs and vfat
[02:15] <ssam> kingspawn, it is set on when you run bash in a terminal, but you have to turn it on in a script
[02:15] <TANATHOS> jenda : nano -w *.prn
[02:15] <kingspawn> ssam: ah, i see. how do you turn it on?
[02:16] <twopeak> can anyone help me with writing to a hfs+ disk?
[02:16] <ssam> kingspawn, i filled a bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/bash/+bug/36477
[02:16] <ssam> kingspawn, you use shopt -s extglob
[02:16] <jenda> TANATHOS: Hey thanks, but it throws a bunch of jibberish.
[02:17] <ssam> kingspawn, "shopt" shows you all the options, and -s to set and -u to unset
[02:17] <MonsieurBon> ssam, there's nobody....
[02:17] <ssam> twopeak, how are you mounting it?
[02:17] <kingspawn> ssam: hm, extglob is turned off by default here
[02:18] <ssam> MonsieurBon, its best to just ask a question and wait, most people don't respond to hellos on irc
[02:18] <venky> just curious what happened to all my vfat partitions
[02:18] <ssam> kingspawn, maybe my computer is special
[02:18] <kingspawn> ssam: haha, yes. it might be from outer space.
[02:18] <venky> its working now..thanks "void" for that
[02:19] <venky> but all my vfat drives r gone
[02:19] <TANATHOS> jenda: LPRng
[02:19] <TANATHOS> !dpkg LPRng
[02:19] <ubotu> TANATHOS: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:19] <TF> What's the correct method to launch a file browser with root permission?
[02:19] <ssam> kingspawn, its on for me on breezy and dapper !?!
[02:19] <MonsieurBon> ssam, just realised that! :)
[02:20] <TANATHOS> TF: tried mc?
[02:20] <kingspawn> ssam: that is quite strange. i'm on breezy. wait, i'll use your little script to check if its on inside scripts
[02:20] <gnomefreak> TF: its not recommended but you can do it like this gksudo nautilus
[02:20] <kingspawn> ssam: off in scripts too
[02:20] <rmetz> did anybody catch my question?
[02:20] <jenda> TANATHOS: got it. now, how do I know it won't print the same jibberish as nano showed? Sample: "^O50w ^\x^L^A^H^H?y"
[02:21] <TF> What is mc?  I shall look at gksudo nautilus.
[02:21] <ssam> kingspawn, i must just be special :-)
[02:21] <gnomefreak> rmetz: low on ram?
[02:21] <kingspawn> ssam: hehe
[02:21] <myndmelder> Anyone using Azureus with Ubuntu at the moment? Azureus is telling me that I have a NAT error, but I haven't installed any firewall as of yet. If there is a firewall incorporated into the install, how do I get to it so that I can open the port for Azureus...
[02:21] <gnomefreak> TF: mc is midnight commander
[02:21] <TANATHOS> TF: midnight commander
[02:22] <jenda> myndmelder: you prabably have a router
[02:22] <venky> does anyone know how to open a terminal window in pirticualr directory of gnome
[02:22] <TANATHOS> jenda : it's a japanese smth don't have a clue
[02:22] <jenda> TANATHOS: hehe... no, it's supposed to be french.
[02:22] <veldorzvizzerd> does anyone here have a wireless PCI card set up in ubuntu? I need help setting mine up
[02:23] <TANATHOS> myndmelder : iptables -L
[02:23] <TF> Ah.  It doesn't appear to come with the livecd.
[02:23] <myndmelder> I do not have a router, just going straight computer to modem. And Azureus wasn't having this problem 18+ hours ago when I was still was on Windows...
[02:23] <TANATHOS> TF: didn't think so
[02:23] <jenda> rmetz: hmm, that, I think, could be caused by your graphics card - it happens to me mainly when watching movies.
[02:23] <myndmelder> Thanks Tanathos
[02:24] <TANATHOS> welcome
[02:25] <ssam> rmetz, screensaver crashing problem?
[02:25] <zipper|> !apache
[02:25] <ubotu> from memory, apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:25] <veldorzvizzerd> hello there, anyone know how to set up a wireless card to run in ubuntu? please help
[02:25] <gnomefreak> !wireless
[02:25] <ubotu> wireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[02:25] <rmetz> it was really weird.  the picture just froze but my mouse would still move around.  keyboard would not do anything
[02:25] <veldorzvizzerd> thanks gnomefreak
[02:25] <venky> does anyone know how to open terminal window from the file browser
[02:25] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:26] <venky> i mean at the same path as the file browser
[02:26] <Hexidigital> heya guys... have a question about memory... i have system monitor on my desktop panel, monitoring processor, load average, and memory... my memory right now is at 100% of which 73% is in cache... are there any memory fixes, command line, etc that i should learn?
[02:26] <ssam> rmetz, did you try ctrl+alt+F1
[02:27] <ssam> Hexidigital, memory being used for cache is a good thing
[02:27] <Hexidigital> ssam, so i have it backwards?
[02:27] <rmetz> i tried everything on the keyboard.  then i checked the caps lock lights, just to see if it was responding at all.  none of my keyboard lights would work
[02:28] <ssam> Hexidigital, linux cache files from the hard disk into ram so it can load them faster
[02:28] <Hexidigital> ssam, the other day, my memory was 40 or so with X% in cache... isn't that more optimized?
[02:28] <ssam> Hexidigital, if you need to use the ram for a program then it clears out the cache to make space
[02:28] <Hexidigital> ssam, i see...  thank you :)  you saved me from a panic attack
[02:29] <ssam> Hexidigital, it confuses everyone at first :-)
[02:29] <venky> can anyone help me
[02:29] <venky> ?
[02:29] <Hexidigital> ssam, it makes much more sense now that you explained "why" it happens
[02:29] <Hexidigital> !tell venky about anyone
[02:29] <TF> Ok, root is not able to read the file (on my mounted ext3 partition) either.  What's the best way to back up my drive's files to my windows share?
[02:29] <digger3> Hi, today in dapper 'focus follows mouse' stopped working in gnome, even though I selected the option from preferences / windows, any fix?
[02:31] <venky> well i need to go to a specific directory in the terminal window directly from the graphical file browser in gnome
[02:32] <venky> is it possible
[02:33] <venky> hexidigital seems no one is answering my question...
[02:34] <hawaisurf> hello everyone.. have a problem with the webradio can anybody help me?
[02:35] <ssam> venky, there is a script you can get to have open folder in terminal as a right click menu option in nautilus
[02:35] <ssam> venky, does that sound like what you want
[02:35] <venky> ya
[02:36] <venky> where can i  get the script
[02:36] <kartik> can i access my webcam for chatting purpose through yahoo messenger
[02:36] <Hexidigital> venky, sorry i was afk for a bit
[02:36] <venky> afk? well i dont understand the acronym
[02:36] <Hexidigital> away from keyboard
[02:36] <ompaul> away from keyboard
[02:37] <veldorzvizzerd> by the way, does anyone know any VoIP or voice chat client that works on both linux and windows that I can use on ubuntu?
[02:37] <venky> ok well can u help me ssam said there is a script..but where can i find it
[02:37] <Fracture> veldorzvizzerd: skype
[02:37] <veldorzvizzerd> will check it out, thanks Fracture
[02:38] <ssam> venky, sorry justr searching for it
[02:38] <kartik> can i access my webcam through through msn
[02:38] <venky> ok i will wait
[02:38] <ssam> venky, i think it called nautilus-open-terminal it might be in synaptic
[02:38] <ompaul> skpe is not really voip but it asterisk is but then whats what
[02:39] <veldorzvizzerd> whay do u mean, ompaul?
[02:40] <kartik> !can i access webcam through msn?????
[02:40] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, kartik
[02:40] <ompaul> skype is a way of talking to other skype clients or to land lines - but (as it is closed source) it is not able to talk to voip networks and its a bit mad
[02:41] <we2by> hi
[02:41] <kartik> can i access my webcam through msn????please help?????
[02:41] <ompaul> asterisk is the way to set up voip, and then you can get all sorts of clients to talk with it
[02:41] <we2by> does Ubuntu support ReiserFS v4?
[02:42] <ompaul> kartik, more question marks makes your question more valid? if someone knows they might answer in the mean time wait 10 mins to ask again please
[02:42] <veldorzvizzerd> true, ompaul, unfortunately I don't know of any alternatives though
[02:42] <ab0rted> i come from the far lands of... MORDOR! bearing great news!
[02:43] <ab0rted> the ring has been destroyed and everyone installed ubuntu
[02:43] <TANATHOS> ab0rted enlighten us
[02:43] <TANATHOS> :))
[02:43] <veldorzvizzerd> would be handy if there were one that would support both windows and linux, or - hm, would anyone know how I could run windows programs in linux, (specifically googletalk - not via GAIM but by itself, with voice and all)?
[02:43] <ab0rted> there is finally peace on earth
[02:43] <ab0rted> ;p
[02:43] <ab0rted> lol
[02:43] <ab0rted> ok sleep laters
[02:44] <TANATHOS> myndmelder : pls state you question here not in my query
[02:44] <ompaul> veldorzvizzerd, look at asterisk as the server and then any voip client should be able to work with it
[02:44] <rmetz> another stupid question.  why can't i view my hd in gnome?
[02:45] <veldorzvizzerd> thanks ompaul, will do
[02:45] <venky> u r unable to find it
[02:45] <venky> ?
[02:45] <TANATHOS> rmetz : what fs?
[02:45] <jenda> anyone know how i could open a formatted .prn file? "nano foo.prn" only shows a bunch of incomprehensible jibberish.
[02:46] <rmetz> i think it is ntfs?
[02:46] <we2by> does Ubuntu support ReiserFS v4?
[02:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> jenda: what is it?
[02:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> we2by: i thinkk so
[02:46] <we2by> sure??
[02:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> !tell rmetz about ntfs
[02:47] <jenda> Kamping_Kaiser: What is what? The .prn is a formatted application of some sort, the jibberish is ... should I pastebin a bit?
[02:47] <ompaul> we2by, I am off looking for the answer to do that but I concur with Kamping_Kaiser (note I have never trusted rieser since in an eariler life it gobbled 10G of material on me and would not give it back)
[02:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> jenda: binary jibberish is jibberish, no matter what form ;0
[02:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> i think emacs has a hex mode....
[02:47] <rmetz> this partition doesn't have windows on it at all.  is there a way to change the fs?
[02:48] <we2by> ompaul, I am not puting any important data on a ReiserFS filesystem.
[02:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> we2by: i think it supports it as a module
[02:48] <_jason> rmetz: delete the partition and create a new one with gparted
[02:48] <we2by> I only want better performance
[02:48] <Plitskin> uhmmm...
[02:48] <Plitskin> about emacs and vim
[02:49] <Plitskin> are both just plain text editor?
[02:49] <Fracture> !asterisk
[02:49] <ubotu> No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Fracture
[02:49] <ompaul> we2by, dma?
[02:49] <_jason> Plitskin: I wouldn't call them ``plain'', run 'vimtutor' to get started with vim
[02:49] <we2by> ompaul, dunno
[02:49] <we2by> it is a laptop
[02:49] <rmetz> would deleting the partition delete the data on it?
[02:49] <we2by> rmetz, yes
[02:49] <LuiGGi> does anybody know if winamp works with cedega ?
[02:50] <gnomefreak> rmetz: yes
[02:50] <Plitskin> _Jason - ok... thanks
[02:50] <Healot> LuiGGi: ... winamp? if it works for most games, then it should
[02:50] <we2by> ReiserFS v4 is very fast compared to ext2 and ext3
[02:50] <LuiGGi> Healot, i think so :P
[02:51] <rmetz> k.  i will have to back it up first.  what is the best linux dvd burning software?
[02:51] <DarkMageZ> k3b (in my opinion)
[02:51] <LuiGGi> Healot, i'll try, thanks
[02:52] <cappiz> is it possible to have a line in a .htaccess file that sends all request to a certain server, like server.com/~user1/* to server2.com ?
[02:52] <Healot> but ext2 and ext3 are most common...
[02:52] <Healot> cappiz: use "redirect" directive...
[02:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> cappiz: sure.
[02:52] <DarkMageZ> rmetz: k3b in my oppinion, i heard that gnomebaker is good, but i can't say anything about that
[02:52] <fiveiron> anyone have dualview working on their nvidia card?
[02:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> redirect something/ somewhere/
[02:53] <cappiz> yeah... but im using wrong parameters
[02:53] <cappiz> :P
[02:53] <selinium> Any GPG users about, I have re-imaged my machine and I have lost the local key that I use for lauchpad...
[02:53] <Hexidigital> fiveiron, i have a dual-able card, but dosent work for dual monitors for me
[02:53] <cappiz> i get server2.com/xuser/~user1
[02:53] <rmetz> k.  thanx darkmagez.
[02:54] <fiveiron> Hexidigital: do you know of any good docs/tuts out there which might help me in configuring my card for that?
[02:54] <Hexidigital> fiveiron, last i tried, at best, i was able to view the same screen on both monitors
[02:54] <rmetz> umm, what is a good xchat tutorial?? :)
[02:54] <Hexidigital> fiveiron, if i did, i'd be able to help more (and have dual monitors, too :) )
[02:54] <fiveiron> hehehe
[02:54] <Hexidigital> sorry
[02:55] <fiveiron> its all good
[02:55] <cappiz> Redirect permanent / http://www.server.org/ulf
[02:55] <cappiz> then i get this http://www.server.org/ulf~user1/
[02:55] <Hexidigital> gotta go guys... happy ubuntuing
[02:55] <ompaul> we2by, so I can't find the answer have a check when your formatting
[02:55] <ompaul> we2by, and let us know what your status is thanks
[02:55] <Healot> even though Google is evil, it is still a good source of information
[02:56] <we2by> yea, I will give it a try when I have my new pc built next week
[02:56] <Spee_Der> rmetz: I found k3b to be best so far for cd/dvd burning
[02:56] <ompaul> Healot, that was a bit left of field
[02:56] <TF> Thank you for the help.  I've got to head out.
[02:57] <Bog_> hello
[02:57] <pascal_> hello
[02:57] <Bog_> whats goin on?
[02:58] <Bog_> can anyone suggest a CMS with integrated wiki?
[02:59] <Frogzoo> Bog_: zope I believe... can't speak from experience though
[02:59] <Bog_> I'll check it out
[02:59] <Bog_> thanks
[03:00] <kartik> can i access webcam in msn messenger????????????????
[03:00] <gnomefreak> kartik: no
[03:00] <ompaul> kartik, ????????????????????????????
[03:00] <_jason> kartik: one question mark is enough to make a question :)
[03:00] <gnomefreak> !webcam
[03:00] <ubotu> well, webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.
[03:00] <TANATHOS>  "... und tsch"
[03:00] <spikeb> amsn already has webcam support.
[03:00] <Frogzoo> Bog_: plone is also worth a look
[03:00] <LuiGGi> Local search does not work in aMule 2.0.3 for me :( any idea ?
[03:01] <kbrooks> ubotu, webcam =~ s/amsn and//
[03:01] <ubotu> kbrooks: OK
[03:01] <Bog_> frog: will do
[03:01] <kbrooks> spikeb, fixed
[03:01] <spikeb> kbrooks: cool.
[03:01] <kbrooks> !webcam
[03:01] <ubotu> from memory, webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in  gaim-vv.
[03:02] <LuiGGi> !amule
[03:02] <gnomefreak> brb restart
[03:02] <ubotu> sudo apt-get install amule
[03:02] <DarkMageZ> !microsoft
[03:02] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, DarkMageZ
[03:02] <Plitskin> guys if I mounted an MP3 player
[03:02] <Frogzoo> !tell LuiGGi about frostwire
[03:03] <Plitskin> how do I browse through all its contents through terminal?
[03:03] <spikeb> frostwire rocks :)
[03:03] <Plitskin> I don't know where it's located...
[03:03] <DarkMageZ> Plitskin: maybe /media/something/ (shouldn't be too many things in media
[03:04] <LuiGGi> Frogzoo, i may try, thanks
[03:04] <Frogzoo> Plitskin: probly /media/sd*   - though no icon on the desktop?
[03:04] <Plitskin> DarkMageZ - Ok, will try that
[03:04] <Plitskin> thanks
[03:04] <DarkMageZ> !tell DarkMageZ about frostwire
[03:04] <Plitskin> Frogzoo - Gonna try that too :)
[03:04] <Plitskin> thanks
[03:04] <rmetz> is there a good dvd burner that works with gnome?  isn't k3b for kde only?
[03:04] <Plitskin> Frogzoo - There's an icon
[03:04] <Frogzoo> rmetz: k3b rox - & works under gnome np
[03:05] <Frogzoo> Plitskin: we have a winner!
[03:05] <Plitskin> I'm just doing it as an exercise :D
[03:05] <Plitskin> whoah!
[03:05] <rmetz> how do u get it frogzoo?
[03:05] <Frogzoo> Plitskin: right click -> properties
[03:05] <Plitskin> don't tell me I won a Mac G5?
[03:05] <Plitskin> lolz
[03:05] <Frogzoo> rmetz: 'sudo apt-get install k3b'
[03:05] <rmetz> thanks
[03:05] <DarkMageZ> rmetz: yeah, frogzoo is right, k3b is a kde app, but works fine under gnome, (just don't run it as root like i did)
[03:06] <Plitskin> Frogzoo - Hey I was just doing this as an exercise... :-(
[03:06] <Plitskin> you know...
[03:06] <Frogzoo> Plitskin: soz...
[03:06] <Plitskin> try to do the same thing a different way...
[03:06] <Plitskin> :)
[03:06] <Plitskin> k, brb
[03:07] <ompaul> !offtoic
[03:07] <ubotu> ompaul: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:07] <ompaul> !offtopic
[03:07] <ubotu> Non Ubuntu support related discussions may be carried out in the channel #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[03:09] <rmetz> is kde better than gnome?  should i change my desktop?
[03:09] <spikeb> heh
[03:09] <Kennie> gnome is better IMO :p
[03:09] <ssam> rmetz, try both
[03:09] <gnomefreak> rmetz: you would need to decide that
[03:09] <ompaul> rmetz, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and then you choose
[03:09] <_AdamK_> hello
[03:09] <kbrooks> spikeb, do you mean flamebait?
[03:09] <spikeb> kbrooks: aye.
[03:10] <Frogzoo> rmetz: gnome is less trouble, & more stable (as it's ubuntu stock)
[03:10] <kbrooks> spikeb, well, that wasnt flamebait
[03:10] <rmetz> is there a good place to learn about gnome?
[03:10] <kbrooks> spikeb, it could look like it ;)
[03:10] <ssam> rmetz, www.gnome.org
[03:11] <_AdamK_> I have strange problem: after reinstaling whole system from scratch (becouse of disk crash), I can't install Azureus
[03:11] <gnomefreak> !gnome
[03:11] <spikeb> kbrooks: it normally is, if somebody asks. this seems to be a rare genuine question :)
[03:11] <Frogzoo> rmetz: click on the lifesave icon 'Gnome Help'
[03:11] <Frogzoo> !doc
[03:11] <ubotu> I guess doc is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is a good doc to read
[03:11] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell rmetz about gnome
[03:11] <kbrooks> spikeb, but flamebait is: "<fill in other desktop environment> sucks. gnome rules!"
[03:11] <_AdamK_> I think I have correct sources list (including dapper repositories)
[03:11] <Frogzoo> nano sux :p
[03:11] <spikeb> heh
[03:11] <Frogzoo> vi is so much better
[03:11] <Frogzoo> lolz
[03:12] <ompaul> OI! sucks and sux are offtopic
[03:12] <rmetz> k.  thnx every1
[03:12] <gnomefreak> _AdamK_: please take dapper talk to #ubuntu+1 and paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin please
[03:12] <Plitskin> hey
[03:12] <_AdamK_> thanks gnomefreak
[03:12] <Plitskin> errr...
[03:12] <gnomefreak> _AdamK_: yw
[03:13] <Plitskin> why is there an "x" mark on my mp3 icons?
[03:13] <ompaul> you can't write to them
[03:13] <Plitskin> after I copied the mp3 files from mp3 player to disc... :-(
[03:13] <ompaul> check out the permissions on them
[03:13] <Plitskin> hmmm... ok...
[03:13] <Plitskin> I tried to...
[03:14] <Plitskin> sudo cp *.mp3 /usr/music/
[03:14] <Plitskin> is there anything wrong with that?
[03:14] <Plitskin> do I just need to chmod?
[03:14] <_jason> Plitskin: all those files are owned by root now
[03:14] <Plitskin> aaaaak
[03:14] <_jason> Plitskin: why don't you use $HOME ?
[03:14] <ompaul> Plitskin, let me help you a little, don't use enter as punctuation, put it all on one line - you are spamming the channel
[03:15] <LazyAngel> Anyone knows how to get multiple sounds with skype? (The easiest way) I tried: sudo apt-get install esound-clients; esddsp skype (but i only get "Bus error")
[03:15] <Plitskin> ompaul - sorry... I haven't used the IRC for quite sometime...
[03:15] <miffi> hab en problem mit gaim ich kann niemanden mehr adden oder in die Gruppe ziehen da die meldung kommt "die Gruppe ist voll"
[03:15] <Frogzoo> !tell LazyAngel about skype
[03:15] <miffi> benutze die version 2 beta2
[03:16] <Frogzoo> !de
[03:16] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[03:16] <ompaul> Plitskin, as _jason said, you would be best placed to put it in your home directory, if you want to share it make it world readable on the machine
[03:16] <spikeb> er
[03:16] <LazyAngel> Frogzoo: thanks
[03:16] <spikeb> a world readable directory inside your home dir? i don't think so.
[03:17] <Plitskin> ok.. thanks... I didn't encounter this sudo thing back in Red Hat 9...
[03:17] <FireKat> Does anyone know why the xorg configuration on install uses the "ati" driver instead of "radeon"?
[03:17] <_jason> spikeb: how come?
[03:18] <hawaisurf> hi have a problem with a file that I want to through to the garbage and dont let me do that because I have no authorisation..
[03:18] <spikeb> dunno bout the rest of you, but my home dir is personal, nobody but me is seeing it :P
[03:18] <_AdamK__> gnomefreak: what is pastebin?
[03:18] <_jason> hawaisurf: sudo rm -rf ~/.Trash
[03:18] <ompaul> thoreauputic, good day sir
[03:18] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell _AdamK__ about pastebin
[03:19] <thoreauputic> ompaul: hello there :)
[03:19] <Frogzoo> hawaisurf: you can't delete it because you don't have permission
[03:19] <gnomefreak> _AdamK__: its in your pm
[03:19] <thoreauputic> ompaul: you skypeable?
[03:19] <_jason> hawaisurf: that will delete everything in your trash
[03:19] <ompaul> thoreauputic, I suppose so :-)
[03:19] <hawaisurf> thx very much
[03:19] <ompaul> just a min
[03:20] <thoreauputic> ompaul: your enthusiasm is infectious <j/k>
[03:20] <_AdamK__> gnomefreak: could you take a look at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10841?
[03:21] <gnomefreak> _AdamK__: lets continue this in #ubuntu+1 please
[03:21] <_AdamK__> gnomefreak: ok
[03:23] <Plitskin> aaak... After I did sudo rm /user/music I couldn't type anymore commands... I just get a series of ">" what the???
[03:23] <twopeak> ssam: are you still here?
[03:23] <thoreauputic> Plitskin: wrong command
[03:24] <Frogzoo> Plitskin: ctrl c
[03:24] <thoreauputic> Plitskin: try cd /home/user/music && rm *
[03:25] <Plitskin> Frigzoo thanks
[03:26] <ajith> is anyone using dapper drake
[03:26] <gnomefreak> ajith: please join #ubuntu+1 for dapper help
[03:27] <ajith> thank u
[03:28] <Plitskin> it sucks not to have an internet connection in your linux partition eh?
[03:29] <thoreauputic> Plitskin: indeed
[03:29] <jke> What should i have for building a source .tgz in which there is an autogen.sh file? ./autogen.sh fails with ./autogen.sh: line 9: aclocal: command not found
[03:30] <Plitskin> I really got to get a serial modem... Most would work just fine right?
[03:30] <Plitskin> I can't even play an MP3... gosh... This is getting frustrating...
[03:30] <_jason> !mp3
[03:30] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:31] <Plitskin> ubotu: thanks, will be reading it now...
[03:31] <ubotu> my pleasure, Plitskin
[03:31] <Marbles> ubotu is a bot
[03:31] <ubotu> Marbles: parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:32] <michele> hola
[03:32] <michele> hello
[03:32] <michele> hi
[03:32] <Frogzoo> !thank plitskin
[03:32] <ubotu> Frogzoo: de nada
[03:32] <Plitskin> Marbles: I just figured that out when he responded too fast to my question...
[03:32] <michele> yu yu?
[03:32] <Plitskin> lolz
[03:32] <Marbles> lol
[03:32] <michele> cu cu?
[03:33] <michele> dsjkn
[03:33] <michele> lol
[03:33] <michele> asd
[03:33] <michele> XD
[03:33] <michele> O________________O
[03:33] <michele> >___________________>
[03:33] <michele> > _ >
[03:33] <Marbles> how long u been using ubuntu
[03:33] <Frogzoo> michele: please don't dick around - you'll get kicked
[03:33] <michele> sorry ^_^'
[03:33] <michele> ci sono italiani?
[03:33] <_jason> !it
[03:33] <Frogzoo> !it
[03:33] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:34] <Plitskin> me? Uhmm... I didn't have the time to play with it. I would usually get a week or two in one month to play with it
[03:34] <michele> ok scusa <<
[03:34] <Plitskin> I guess you could sum that up to 2 months
[03:34] <Marbles> have u finished with windows or u in dual boot
[03:34] <Ja> oua le boot est intelligent :')
[03:34] <Plitskin> I used Red Hat before but I was on the same situation... And I also didn't have an internet connection there...
[03:35] <Plitskin> Marbles: I'm on a dual boot system
[03:35] <Marbles> ah
[03:35] <Plitskin> right now, I'm using separate machines
[03:35] <Marbles> same but i'm thinking of scappin windows
[03:35] <Frogzoo> !fr
[03:35] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:35] <Ja> merci.
[03:35] <Plitskin> I have to walk to the other terminal to try the things I ask here...
[03:35] <Frogzoo> de rien
[03:35] <Marbles> i jus need to get all my programs and games working on here
[03:36] <Marbles> scrappin*
[03:36] <Plitskin> Marbles: unfortunately... I can't do that since most clients are using windows... And it's the only way I can connect to the internet right now... :-)
[03:37] <Marbles> how do you mean most clients
[03:37] <Marbles> which clients
[03:37] <Plitskin> right now, my goal is to setup LAMP, WINE and SAMBA then I'm all done
[03:37] <juke>  i have install g++ but when i try compile my test.cpp it give lots of errors etc.. and it very simple program..  do i have to install something more?? :P
[03:37] <Newbieee> Hi
[03:38] <Plitskin> Marbles>: Aside from my real work, I do extra job :D
[03:38] <Marbles> i setup wine that works quite well
[03:38] <Marbles> ah
[03:38] <Plitskin> but I'm unemployed right now though :)
[03:38] <Zanga> can someone please tell me how to mount my ntfs drives
[03:38] <Marbles> you can get them to run in ubuntu
[03:38] <Zanga> ??
[03:38] <Newbieee> I am a New One who want to use Ubuntu...could you please tell me How to start Ubuntu from Live-CD?
[03:38] <gnomefreak> juke: install build-essential
[03:38] <juke> ok :P
[03:39] <Plitskin> Newbieee: go to CMOS setup then enable boot from CD
[03:39] <Zanga> how can i make linux recognize my oher drives ??
[03:39] <Plitskin> disable boot from other devices too
[03:39] <Frogzoo> Plitskin: 'sudo apt-get install wine samba ubuntu-lamp' & then install/run winetools
[03:39] <helder> how do i install a program *.debian in ubuntu? i'm a new user
[03:39] <Marbles> Plitskin: which irc client r u using
[03:39] <behemoth_> anybody able to confirm that they have 'java-package' module available for download in 5.10?
[03:39] <Frogzoo> !deb
[03:39] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[03:40] <helder> thanks
[03:40] <Plitskin> Marbles: don't laugh at me ok? It's M...I...R...C...
[03:40] <Zanga> i need help !!
[03:40] <Marbles> its ok i dont laugh bout minor things
[03:40] <kbrooks> Plitskin, how?
[03:40] <Newbieee> Plitskin I Downloaded Ubuntu.rar i I made a Image with that...Shall I boot From That?
[03:40] <Plitskin> Frogzoo - Thanks! :D
[03:40] <Marbles> so ur logged into windows now yea?
[03:41] <Plitskin> yes, I'm using Win XP right now
[03:41] <Karlprof> Hi, I was wondering, what's the command to mount as 777 rather than 755?
[03:42] <Plitskin> Newbieee - Uhmmm... It's already burned in your CD right? Then just boot from it just like how you would install WinXP
[03:43] <Zanga> mabe he dident make it bootable
[03:43] <Newbieee> ok
[03:43] <Newbieee> Zanga I Burn the rar file in Nero...Burn Image into CD-R
[03:43] <Zanga> hmmm , did u chose the option make bootable cd
[03:43] <Zanga> or just normal
[03:44] <Zanga> bur image
[03:44] <Zanga> ??
[03:44] <Zanga> *bunr
[03:44] <Newbieee> I give Burn Image
[03:44] <Plitskin> there are lots of interesting people here :)
[03:44] <Newbieee> When I open the cd from Xp now it open the menu
[03:44] <Plitskin> and friendly too unlike in other channels lolz
[03:45] <Zanga> do u have a blank cd
[03:45] <Zanga> ??
[03:45] <Newbieee> Yes
[03:45] <Plitskin> Newbieee - No, you won't open the CD while running Win XP
[03:45] <Zanga> burn it agen using the option from nero , burn bootable cd
[03:45] <Plitskin> Newbieee - You're suppose to boot from it, wait let me search for a good tutorial for you
[03:45] <Zanga> then when u restart is should ask u if u want to boot from the cd
[03:46] <Plitskin> there should be one from the Ubuntu site but I don't know where it is...
[03:46] <jalapenopuzzle> re booting from cd, you might have to change a setting in the BIOS first
[03:46] <thoreauputic> ;)
[03:46] <Karlprof> Newbieee, insert the disc and reboot your computer. As it boots, hit [DEL]  to enter your BIOS. Change your boot order so that it tries to boot from CD first, then exit (make sure to exit 'saving changes').
[03:46] <ompaul> okay
[03:46] <Newbieee> Zanga Where is that option in Nero ?
[03:46] <Zanga> Plitski, if he burned the cd without the option bootable cd , i don`t know if the comp will recognize it as bootable althou u chosed in bios , boot from cd/dvd
[03:47] <Zanga> Newbiee, what nero du u have ??
[03:47] <Newbieee> I know how to make selection in BIOS...to boot from CD