[22:03] <brothersome> joshartigan like ... http://superuser.com/questions/310978/starting-ubuntu-without-the-gui
[22:03] <ikonia> joshhartigan: no thats targeted at server infrastructure
[22:04] <EriC^^> linuxlover: we can try to remove the ppa from the sources.list.d manually
[22:04] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  okay
[22:04] <EriC^^> linuxlover: i'm not sure if using ppa-purge would be better or what
[22:05] <neopsyche> I have never seen a better package manager than synaptic. thanks ikonia
[22:05] <neopsyche> ikonia, its removing now
[22:05] <EriC^^> linuxlover: try sudo ppa-purge -p steam -d precise -s repo.steampowered.com
[22:06] <joshhartigan> neopsyche: Have you ever used pacman?
[22:06] <neopsyche> ikonia so now i reboot.. and it uses the old kernel?
[22:06] <neopsyche> josh i used pacman the SSH terminal yes
[22:06] <ikonia> neopsyche: it should fall back to the next kernel in your list if you have other kernels installed
[22:06] <EriC^^> anybody know what ppa-purge actually does?
[22:06] <neopsyche> joshharti if thats what you mean
[22:06] <neopsyche> eric ppa purge gets rid of old ppas
[22:06] <joshhartigan> neopsyche pacman is the Arch linux package manager, it's very good
[22:06] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9599404/
[22:07] <neopsyche> ikonia is linux kernel independent.. in actual boot process. .but the additional features are kernel dependent?
[22:07] <ikonia> neopsyche: sorry I don't understand your question ?
[22:07] <neopsyche> ie: remove all kernels, linux still boot/?
[22:07] <ikonia> neopsyche: no
[22:07] <ikonia> neopsyche: the kernel is what you boot
[22:07] <mjayk> no if u remove all it wont boot
[22:07] <ikonia> if you remove all kernels there is nothing to boot
[22:07] <neopsyche> lol ok
[22:07] <neopsyche> :-)
[22:08] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ok, apparently ppa-purge will attempt to downgrade packages after removing a ppa, which is more or less what we want
[22:08] <neopsyche> mjayk , ikonia how do i install default kernel for 14.04 now i removed the old one?
[22:08] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  wouldn't it be easy to just reinstall lubuntu lol
[22:08] <ikonia> neopsyche: it should still be there
[22:08] <EriC^^> linuxlover: lol, nah
[22:09] <mjayk> neopsyche: unless you removed the default one it should still be there
[22:09] <ikonia> neopsyche: you will normally have 2 - 3 kernels on your machine
[22:09] <ikonia> neopsyche: hence why grub will make it default again
[22:09] <ikonia> check
[22:09] <neopsyche> ok ikonia i see 3.13 generic with ticks next to entries .. good sign?
[22:10] <ikonia> yes
[22:10] <neopsyche> ;-)
[22:10] <neopsyche> thx
[22:10] <neopsyche> see you guys on the other side. ;-)
[22:11] <neopsyche> ok
[22:11] <neopsyche> it seems to have booted ikoni
[22:11] <mjayk> lol
[22:11] <neopsyche> ikonia
[22:11] <mjayk> brilliant
[22:11] <neopsyche> :-)
[22:12] <neopsyche> lol.. darn it.. but mainline is now 3.15
[22:12] <neopsyche> is that right?
[22:12] <welovfree> how can I install emacs, I've downloaded "emacs-24.4.tar.xz"
[22:12] <neopsyche> AHA! 3.15 gave me my battery back
[22:12] <theadmin> welovfree: Remove that and just "sudo apt-get install emacs"
[22:12] <neopsyche> ACPI is a nightmare on my machine ikonia
[22:13] <neopsyche> ikonia i have been having epic battle with the kworker overload bugs
[22:13] <welovfree> theadmin: I wanna install it offline because I don't have an internet connexion right now
[22:13] <aya__> mjayk: i got the movies from yify
[22:13] <neopsyche> ikonia.. its like the os wants to commit suicide on my hardware
[22:14] <theadmin> welovfree: That would be problematic, since to build the source you downloaded you'll need to grab a compiler and stuff (also from the repos)...
[22:14] <mjayk> aya__: did vlc still not work ?
[22:14] <mjayk> maybe its a bad torrent
[22:14] <welovfree> theadmin: :(
[22:15] <theadmin> welovfree: Installing software while offline is a real problem on Ubuntu, I find. I don't even know how to help.
[22:15] <ikonia> use the sources on the DVD ?
[22:15] <ikonia> emacs is probably in main
[22:15] <welovfree> theadmin: in the archive I did download, exist all the dependencies of the emacs? right
[22:15] <ikonia> no
[22:15] <theadmin> welovfree: Likely not.
[22:16] <ikonia> %100 not
[22:16] <ikonia> more so as it has optional dependencies
[22:16] <welovfree> but aren't they enough for an offline installation?
[22:16] <ikonia> no
[22:16] <aya__> mjayk: no, it still plays audio but says i need visual codecs
[22:16] <neopsyche> ikonia i think there is a conspiracy between manufaturers and microshaft http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1946373&page=2
[22:17] <ikonia> neopsyche: yeah, not really interested when you can't even call microsoft by it's proper name
[22:17] <welovfree> I downloaded the archive from here: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/postlfs/emacs.html
[22:17] <ikonia> welovfree: no
[22:17] <ikonia> welovfree: I told you not to use that
[22:17] <neopsyche> ikonia that was a play on words. :-)
[22:17] <ikonia> that is not for ubuntu
[22:17] <ikonia> neopsyche: no, it was just a stupid name calling of a vendor to make you look cool, I', not interested
[22:17] <neopsyche> ok ikonia no worries
[22:18] <neopsyche> ikonia my apologies
[22:18] <welovfree> ikonia: yeah I know but someone here linked me to that
[22:18] <welovfree> that's why
[22:18] <ikonia> welovfree: yes, and I told you not to use it
[22:18] <ikonia> it was wrong
[22:18] <welovfree> ok
[22:18] <neopsyche> ikonia are you secretly mshuttleworth?
[22:18] <EriC^^> linuxlover: we can remove the other ppa's during this time
[22:18] <ikonia> the fact that you are asking this means you should not even consider compiling it
[22:18] <ikonia> neopsyche: please stop
[22:18] <EriC^^> linuxlover: xorg-edgers should be pretty easy to remove
[22:18] <neopsyche> ok
[22:18] <neopsyche> neo halts process
[22:18] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  ok :)
[22:18] <jhutchins> U14.04 is really slow on vmplayer.  I think it's the video.
[22:18] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  i thought you've given up
[22:18] <EriC^^> linuxlover: try sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers
[22:18] <EriC^^> linuxlover: nah
[22:18] <ikonia> jhutchins: a common issue on virtual guests
[22:19] <welovfree> ikonia: but is there is a way to install emacs offline or what?
[22:19] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  this will remove my graphics driver right
[22:19] <ikonia> welovfree: you can either a.) download all the packages/dependencies you need, b.) use an offline media repo, such as an install DVD
[22:19] <welovfree> ikonia: like a deb or someting
[22:19] <ikonia> as I said earlier
[22:19] <ikonia> welovfree: it is not 1 deb
[22:19] <EriC^^> linuxlover: it should revert to the standard repo drivers
[22:19] <EriC^^> linuxlover: it might break though who knows
[22:19] <linuxlover> can i reinstall the driver's after?
[22:20] <EriC^^> linuxlover: yeah you should be able to
[22:20] <linuxlover> ok
[22:20] <linuxlover> ill remove it now then
[22:20] <linuxlover> for the  sake of VM
[22:20] <welovfree> ikonia: how many debs?
[22:20] <EriC^^> ok
[22:20] <ikonia> you have to check
[22:20] <ikonia> as I advised you earlier
[22:20] <ikonia> welovfree: we are repeating the same conversation
[22:20] <aya__> mjayk: and the internet says that theres alot of fake malware codecs
[22:20] <welovfree> ikonia: :(, ok
[22:20] <ikonia> welovfree: why can this machine not go online ?
[22:21] <linuxlover> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9599515/ EriC^^
[22:21] <linuxlover> something went wrong at the bottom
[22:21] <welovfree> ikonia: problems with ISP
[22:21] <ikonia> welovfree: what problems
[22:22] <mjayk> aya__: that is very true for windows; you get a video torrent which tells you to install a codec from www.thisisacodecnotavirus.com
[22:23] <welovfree> ikonia: A got some problems in router maybe, but they say I have to wait till they send help, so I am waiting but I have to install emacs cause I need to work out my homeworks
[22:23] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ok
[22:23] <EriC^^> linuxlover: try cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list
[22:24] <EriC^^> linuxlover: is xorg-edgers still there?
[22:24] <linuxlover> yeah i think so
[22:24] <ikonia> welovfree: I'd suggest if your windows 8 machine you are using now is on the same network, your ubuntu machine should probably work fine on it
[22:25] <linuxlover> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9599551/ EriC^^
[22:25] <linuxlover> i didn't reboot though, should i?
[22:25] <dgarstang> Okiday... how do I control the init.d boot script order? Does ubuntu have numbers like redhat?
[22:25] <welovfree> ikonia: I am using I friends machine
[22:25] <EriC^^> linuxlover: nah, it's removed, those are comments
[22:25] <linuxlover> oh
[22:25] <welovfree> ikonia: to get help
[22:25] <EriC^^> linuxlover: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:25] <linuxlover> i dont need reboot?
[22:25] <EriC^^> linuxlover: no
[22:26] <ikonia> welovfree: well, you have your options then
[22:26] <EriC^^> linuxlover: we'll give it a shot in a bit
[22:26] <Jordan_U> dgarstang: Ubuntu uses upstart, which is based on events, not static ordering. Red Hat used to use upstart also, but now uses systemd (which also doesn't have static ordering). What is your end goal?
[22:26] <welovfree> ikonia: what option?
[22:26] <EriC^^> linuxlover: in the off chance that it doesn't work, do you know how to get to a tty and come back here?
[22:26] <linuxlover> not sure what tty is
[22:26] <linuxlover> process is finished
[22:27] <ikonia> welovfree: download the deb and all the dependency packages, or use an offline repo, such as an install CD
[22:27] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ctrl+alt+f1 is tty1, alt+f7 will take you back to the gui, give it a shot
[22:27] <linuxlover> sounds scary
[22:27] <linuxlover> ok
[22:27] <linuxlover> waht do i do once i'm in tty?
[22:27] <linuxlover> just come back here?
[22:27] <EriC^^> linuxlover: if you reboot and you get a blank screen or something, go to tty1 and sudo apt-get install irssi
[22:27] <welovfree> ikonia: I can download the debs from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/emacs right?
[22:28] <ikonia> no
[22:28] <linuxlover> ok
[22:28] <ikonia> welovfree: that is just the emacs package
[22:28] <linuxlover> i need to write this down
[22:28] <EriC^^> linuxlover: yeah you can use irssi to chat, /server irc.freenode.net 8001
[22:28] <EriC^^> linuxlover: then /join #ubuntu
[22:28] <ikonia> welovfree: you also need the depends listed on the page
[22:28] <welovfree> ikonia: yeah I know, but they are on the same page right?
[22:28] <ikonia> welovfree: and the links
[22:28] <ikonia> welovfree: no, they are different packages
[22:28] <ikonia> welovfree: click the links
[22:29] <ikonia> and you'll see the depends, you need to click all the links to the point of no more links
[22:29] <welovfree> ikonia: this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/emacs24
[22:29] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  i did crtl + alt + f1 , did not take me to ttyl
[22:30] <ikonia> welovfree: you need the package, and all the dependencies, and the dependencies dependencies, and their dependenices etc etc etc
[22:30] <EriC^^> linuxlover: hmm, try ctrl+alt+f2 , hold then together
[22:30] <EriC^^> *them
[22:30] <mjayk> linuxlover: if you are on a laptop make sure you dont need to press the fn key aswell to access f1 f2 etc
[22:30] <linuxlover> not on laptop
[22:30] <welovfree> ikonia: what!!!!!!! I got find out how to get the internet :) then hhhhhhhhh
[22:30] <linuxlover> ctrl+alt+f2 isn't working either
[22:31] <aya__> mjayk: im not sure what u meant lol
[22:31] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ok, well there's something else you can do
[22:31] <mjayk> aya__: it sounds to me like a bad torrent
[22:31] <EriC^^> linuxlover: have you ever booted with the nomodeset option in the kernel line?
[22:32] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  i have no idea what that is =\
[22:32] <aya__> mjayk: sad panda lol ugg why did pirate bay have to die lol
[22:32] <mjayk> aya__: ikr :(
[22:32] <Jordan_U> welovfree: This may make the process a little more bearable: http://askubuntu.com/questions/168352/how-do-i-generate-a-package-download-list
[22:33] <dnivra> Hello everyone! I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 64bit and trying to compile a program that requires binutils with multiarch support. I've installed the binutils-multiarch-dev package but the loader complains saying it can't find certain functions: print_insn_big_arm, print_insn_big_mips, print_insn_little_arm and print_insn_little_mips. I couldn't determine which files I'm missing so thought I'd ask if anyone here knew the package that provides the SO files
[22:33] <dnivra> which contain these functions.
[22:33] <welovfree> Jordan_U: ok let me check, thank you
[22:33] <Jordan_U> welovfree: You're welcome.
[22:34] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ok, when the pc boots, hold shift, you'll get grub, press 'e' over the ubuntu entry, then go down to the line that says Linux vmlinuz..... blablabla quiet splash, and add 'nomodeset' after quiet splash, then press ctrl+x to execute it
[22:34] <rio_zenta> Under alsamixer in the CLI, i have 2 "Headphone" options, with one of them being at zero. when trying to adjust the volume up, nothing happens. Does anybody else know to make "Headphone 1" 100% ?
[22:35] <welovfree> Jordan_U: but as I can notice they are using commands that need internet access.
[22:35] <welovfree> Jordan_U: or I am I mistaken?
[22:35] <EriC^^> linuxlover: if that doesn't work, then try to add 'text' instead of nomodeset, and it will take you straight to a tty
[22:35] <linuxlover> just type "text"?
[22:36] <EriC^^> linuxlover: after quiet splash
[22:36] <linuxlover> ok brb
[22:36] <EriC^^> ok
[22:36] <Jordan_U> welovfree: You are mistaken, the following command (from that page) does not require internet access: sudo apt-get install <package-name> --allow-unauthenticated -y --print-uris | grep -o '\'http.*\' | tr "\'" " " > download-list
[22:36] <linuxlover> wait
[22:37] <linuxlover> after i ctrl+x .. then what?
[22:37] <linuxlover> does it boot me back into GUI?
[22:37] <EriC^^> linuxlover: it boots, yeah
[22:37] <linuxlover> ok
[22:37] <linuxlover> brb
[22:38] <ararob> dnivra, don't know the functions off hand, but it sounds like the your application and the -dev package are not in sync, did you get the latest -dev package?
[22:38] <welovfree> Jordan_U: ahh right :) my bad hhhhh
[22:38] <mjayk> #
[22:39] <marianne> hi guys, running ubuntu 14.04... anyone know the file where I can put soundbites for system messages and screen unlocks and stuff? going to surprise my BF by making the box sound like jarvis
[22:39] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  shift did not take me to grub
[22:39] <EriC^^> linuxlover: did you hold it>
[22:39] <linuxlover> yeah
[22:39] <Merrill> Okay
[22:39] <linuxlover> but what reboot did was it deactivated my second monitor
[22:39] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ok well at least you're here so that means everything's ok?
[22:40] <Jordan_U> linuxlover: If you're booting via UEFI you need to constantly press and release escape rather than holding shift.
[22:40] <linuxlover> ok ill try ESC
[22:40] <dnivra> ararob: binutils-multiarch-dev 2.24-5ubuntu3 is installed. The application recommends binutils 2.20(if not 2.20, 2.19.1 or later) so I asssumed 2.24 should work fine.
[22:40] <EriC^^> linuxlover:
[22:40] <EriC^^> wait
[22:40] <linuxlover> what
[22:40] <EriC^^> no need that was just in case it boots into a black screen and you cant get to a tty
[22:41] <linuxlover> oh so i dont need to get to TTY now since i'm here
[22:41] <EriC^^> linuxlover: yeah
[22:41] <linuxlover> did something go wrong then
[22:41] <linuxlover> if i'm here
[22:41] <aya__> mjayk: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2474022,00.asp
[22:42] <EriC^^> linuxlover: no it was just a precaution
[22:42] <linuxlover> ok
[22:42] <Jesper--> so what is this tty? What do you use them for and how many are there?
[22:42] <Merrill> linuxlover: EriC^^ plays it to safe
[22:43] <EriC^^> Merrill: he just removed his graphics drivers and doesnt have tty
[22:43] <nda_> I'm about to go nuts. I'm trying to rip an audio CD using a Live USB version of Ubuntu 14.04.1. To do that, I need to install a program from the "universe" source. I've enabled it, but I still am not allowed to install the program using Software Center. :(
[22:43] <Bud> Hello World, i'm new on this channel
[22:43] <rio_zenta> anybody have any response to 2 headphone options in alsamixer?
[22:43] <rio_zenta> nda_, Try sudo apt-get install
[22:44] <nda_> rio_zenta: Thank you. I will try that as soon as I figure out what the package name is.
[22:44] <Jordan_U> nda_: sudo apt-get update # (or click whatever update button you find in Software Center)
[22:44] <EriC^^> linuxlover: does lubuntu have the additional drivers package?
[22:44] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  yeah i think.. from synpatic manager?
[22:44] <rio_zenta> darn, why do updates of ubuntu break more things instead of keeping them fixed. sigh
[22:45] <EriC^^> rio_zenta: ppa much?
[22:45] <nda_> Jordan_U: Thank you. The GUI asked me to reload something, and I did. Can't find any update/reload button there.
[22:45] <Bud> Is there someone who could help me finding serial number from my lost video game ?
[22:45] <Jordan_U> nda_: Though I'm almost certain that Ubuntu comes with a program that can rip audio CDs by default.
[22:45] <Merrill> rio_zenta: because you have junk kernel modules.
[22:45] <mjayk> Bud: no
[22:45] <marianne> Bud: I think your in the wrong room
[22:46] <marianne> you're*
[22:46] <EriC^^> linuxlover: in unity it's called additional drivers, and it shows which drivers you can use
[22:46] <linuxlover> yeah i found that in "software & updates"
[22:46] <nda_> Jordan_U: The only thing I found was "Brasero Disc Burner", which somehow didn't let me create an image.
[22:46] <linuxlover> EriC^^:
[22:46] <rio_zenta> EriC^^, no ppa at all. this is a fresh install
[22:47] <linuxlover> I'm there now EriC^^  and i see 3 options for graphic drivers
[22:47] <Jordan_U> nda_: What do you mean by "create an image"?
[22:47] <kostkon> nda_: try with rhythm box
[22:47] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ok which is selected right now?
[22:47] <EriC^^> linuxlover: what vga do you have? type lspci | grep VGA
[22:48] <ararob> dnivra, maybe try 2.20 then, if you can find it? if it still doesn't work, then something else is missing...
[22:48] <nda_> Jordan_U: Disc image, e.g. ISO or something. I don't mind if I rip the disc or get an image, as long as I get a digital copy of it.
[22:48] <linuxlover> right now it's selected as x.org.xserver -- nouveau display driver  and i have a gtx780
[22:48] <Jordan_U> nda_: If you want to rip the audio off the CD with absolutely no loss then choose "FLAC" as the audio format. It doesn't make much sense to make an "image" of an audio CD, and it's by definition impossible to create an iso image as an audio CD doesn't contain an iso9660, or any other, filesystem.
[22:49] <linuxlover> but i know for a fact that i don't select that one
[22:49] <Bud> Sorry i leave if i'm in the wrong room
[22:49] <linuxlover> because nouvea makes it impossible to load steam games.
[22:49] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ok select the one you want
[22:49] <Jordan_U> nda_: OK. What problem are you having ripping the audio into audio files?
[22:49] <linuxlover> so it doesn't matter which one i choose?
[22:50] <Merrill> linuxlover: pick nvidia
[22:50] <nda_> Jordan_U: The problem now is just that I haven't even gotten to the part where I have a program to use. I'll however try Rythmbox as suggested by kostkon.
[22:50] <mjayk> linuxlover: there will be 2 nvidia ones just pick one of those; doesnt really matter which one
[22:50] <linuxlover> ok mjayk
[22:51] <dnivra> ararob: Yeah I guess that's probably the way to go. I'll probably have to compile binutils for that. I'll check it out. Thanks for helping out!
[22:51] <Merrill> mjayk: it matters. Don't pick the updated one.
[22:52] <linuxlover> ok EriC^^  done
[22:52] <mjayk> Merrill: if it does ive never experienced any difference
[22:52] <nda_> kostkon, Jordan_U: Rhytmbox has a feature to extract the tracks, and it seems to be doing something. :D Thank you!
[22:52] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ok, try the nvidia-settings or something
[22:53] <EriC^^> linuxlover: or reboot
[22:53] <kostkon> nda_: :-)
[22:53] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  i think i have to reboot to see the changes
[22:53] <Merrill> mjayk: the updated one is actually older.
[22:53] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ok
[22:53] <linuxlover> brb
[22:53] <mdoge> Got some apt-get issues.. not sure where to start looking: http://pastebin.com/AiefrrNX
[22:54] <Tex_Nick> ubuntu 14.10 ... my system monitor has stopped showing network activity ... it still shows CPU & Memory activity though ... any ideas there ?
[22:54] <mdoge> can anyone give me a push in the right direction?
[22:54] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  ok, i'm back, strange, now i don't see my menu bar.
[22:54] <mjayk> Wow Merrill is a racist teenager
[22:56] <linuxlover> EriC^^:  nevermind fixed it. yeah im back on nvidia-settings
[22:56] <linuxlover> mjayk:  yeah he also did the same to me.
[22:56] <mjayk> linuxlover: people like that are just kids
[22:57] <Jordan_U> linuxlover: mjayk: If there is any PM abuse going on, please bring that up in #ubuntu-ops.
[22:57] <mjayk> Jordan_U: thanks
[22:57] <EriC^^> linuxlover: ok
[22:57] <linuxlover> i'm not really  focused on the troll at the moment
[22:57] <EriC^^> linuxlover: sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[22:57] <EriC^^> :D
[22:57] <Jordan_U> mjayk: You're welcome.
[22:57] <linuxlover> i hope it'll work this time EriC^^
[22:57] <linuxlover> :)
[22:57] <linuxlover> yes it's downloading
[22:57] <mjayk> Jordan_U: didnt know it existed
[22:57] <EriC^^> linuxlover: yay
[22:58] <linuxlover> thank you EriC^^
[22:58] <linuxlover> you put in a lot of work on this.
[22:59] <EriC^^> linuxlover: no problem
[22:59] <linuxlover> yeah i have virtualbox :)
[22:59] <linuxlover> cool!
[22:59] <jdfskitz> so does anybody work on this irc and get paid, or are all of you just doing this for free to help people?
[22:59] <EriC^^> yeah, it is :)
[22:59] <Merrill> linuxlover: virtualbox has two versions. And the one installed with apt-get is the junk one. Also make sure kernel modules are built.
[23:00] <linuxlover> what are you trying to do Merrill ? you act serious here but troll in pm why
[23:00] <Bashing-om> linuxlover: EriC^^ I am back, looking good ? linuxlover ; there is still one other old PPA that needs to be dealt with " deb http://deb.playonlinux.com/ trusty main " .
[23:00] <jdfskitz> I may want to just sit and read how you resolve other's issues so that I can be of use.
[23:00] <Jordan_U> Merrill: Please join #ubuntu-ops if you wish to discuss your ban.
[23:01] <rcampbel3> I want to use ssh-import-id, to get public ssh keys, but want to get them from my own keyserver - not launchpad or github. Anyone done something similar?
[23:01] <linuxlover> yes Bashing-om  virtualbox up and running now. Much thanks to EriC^^
[23:02] <nzca> hola alguien ayuda?
[23:02] <Bashing-om> linuxlover:   : ) , EriC^^ is of 'something else' . good .
[23:02] <nzca> por favor?
[23:03] <rio_zenta> jdfskitz, Most IRC channels are unsupported by their developers. They prefer writing code and leaving the actual work of dealing with users to us :)
[23:03] <linuxlover> wait Bashing-om  do i run that command?
[23:03] <linuxlover> "deb http://deb.playonlinux.com/ trusty main "
[23:03] <linuxlover> or not a command it seems lol
[23:04] <james_ca> why I cannot use chown to change ownship?
[23:04] <letsgets> EriC^^: tell linuxlover about the different virtual boxes. Apt-get version is junk. And make sure kernel modules get built.
[23:04] <jatt> !es | nazca
[23:04] <letsgets> james_ca: You not putting sudo in front
[23:04] <Bashing-om> linuxlover: Naww, just agreeing that EriC^^ is of the best help here . _ don't forget to deal with that trusty repo. Else will get ya unto trouble later .
[23:05] <james_ca> james-Aspire-V3-571 home # ls -l
[23:05] <james_ca> total 0
[23:05] <james_ca> drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 448 Dec 22 15:37 james
[23:05] <james_ca> james-Aspire-V3-571 home # chown james: james
[23:05] <james_ca> james-Aspire-V3-571 home # chown -v james: james
[23:05] <james_ca> changed ownership of ‘james’ from root:root to james:james
[23:05] <unopaste> james_ca you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[23:05] <nzca> gracias ubottu!! :D
[23:05] <linuxlover> yeah i'm surprised how much patience he has Bashing-om!
[23:05] <linuxlover> well thanks im going to install windows 7 now
[23:06] <jdfskitz> this irc is very active right now..
[23:07] <letsgets> linuxlover: install Windows on that crippled version of virtualbox.
[23:08] <james_ca> sudo chown -v james: james
[23:08] <james_ca> changed ownership of ‘james’ from root:root to james:james
[23:08] <Charcoalcat> Hi! I can hear everything in my browser except Livestream. This happened after I was messing with the sound settings in Python. I don't remember what else I tried, but here's the program as it currently is: https://bpaste.net/show/54fce658d0a9 Help? I tried enabling load-module module-rtp-recv (in papref settings and the text file) already and rebooting.
[23:08] <Charcoalcat> It's an issue in Firefox and Chromium both.
[23:08] <james_ca> but I still get drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 448 Dec 22 16:01 james
[23:08] <james_ca> what's the problem?
[23:09] <jdfskitz> sounds like a sound driver problem to me.. or a config file
[23:09] <jdfskitz> let me see if I can find something
[23:09] <EriC^^> linuxlover: most stuff can be fixed in linux if you keep at it, i'd dare say all, anyways in life as well if you never quit, you're bound to make it, it's a cliche but never say never
[23:09] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: But I could play Livestream just the other day.
[23:09] <letsgets> james_ca: try sudo chmod 777. Then use the gui.
[23:10] <linuxlover> thanks EriC^^ I'll remember not to think reinstall is the only solution next time.
[23:10] <Charcoalcat> I think I last checked Livestream early Sunday morning.
[23:10] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: you may have had a recent update and it may have set your default sound driver to the incorrect one
[23:11] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: perhaps asoundconf list
[23:11] <jdfskitz> asoundconf set-default-card <one from the list>
[23:12] <letsgets> jdfskitz: wrong
[23:12] <james_ca> hi <letsgets>, in the gui, the owner or group always bounce back when I change it
[23:12] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: I'm pretty sure I haven't updated since then.
[23:12] <theadmin> james_ca: Are you on a FAT32 or NTFS filesystem?
[23:12] <jdfskitz> letsgets: mind helping out :)
[23:13] <james_ca> NTFS
[23:13] <theadmin> james_ca: NTFS does not support UNIX permissions.
[23:13] <james_ca> ok, i SEE
[23:13] <theadmin> james_ca: Move the files to an ext2/3/4 drive and then mess with them.
[23:13] <letsgets> james_ca: impossible did you try chmod 777
[23:13] <james_ca> OK, thanks
[23:13] <theadmin> james_ca: Or, you can mount the whole filesystem with a certain permission set -- that way all the files will have the same permission
[23:13] <james_ca> yes I did
[23:14] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: have you modified anything?
[23:14] <pixelkat> yo!
[23:14] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: Maybe? Like I said, I did some random stuff in Python trying to figure out how to change the volume. I can try and find the thing I used.
[23:15] <hedin> Hi, I'm playing around with btrfs on ubuntu and now I need to boot ubuntu with the degraded option set on my btrfs volume... how do I do that?
[23:15] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: maybe a description of what you did in python? also have you checked the alsa sound meter in the top
[23:15] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: I tried things on here. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10739390/how-to-programmatically-change-volume-in-ubuntu
[23:15] <phroggy> hi all, I'm kinda newish to Ubuntu, working on setting up a new server to be a VM host, running on new hardware.  Running into a bit of trouble.
[23:15] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: No, how do I check the alsa sound meter?
[23:16] <letsgets> james_ca: maybe the files are owned by ntfs user and root can't change that.
[23:16] <phroggy> my current issue is that the system intermittently hangs on boot
[23:16] <theadmin> letsgets: NTFS simply doesn't support permissions.
[23:16] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: or it looks like you are using ubuntu, so pulse meter
[23:16] <phroggy> last line on the console says:  EXT4-fs (dm-0): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[23:16] <theadmin> letsgets: Well, it supports Windows ACL, but that's a different matter
[23:16] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: what OS are you in
[23:17] <theadmin> letsgets: The permissions are actually stored on the filesystem, not in the OS
[23:17] <james_ca> letsgets: thanks, I'll convert to ext and try
[23:17] <theadmin> So...
[23:17] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[23:17] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: How do I check the pulse meter? What is it?
[23:17] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: click on the unity panel and search pulse
[23:18] <letsgets> jamestunniclif
[23:18] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: It just shows PulseAudio Preferences and PulseAudio Volume Control.
[23:19] <Marasgeon> In disks utility , I see disk is ok, one bad sector, am I going to have any problem ?
[23:19] <letsgets> theadmin: maybe he could make a copy of the file and try the file permissions on the copy.
[23:19] <EriC^^> Marasgeon: the end is imminent i'd think, i'd backup, ( no disk expert though )
[23:19] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: If you mean Volume Control then of course I checked that, master volume is at 100% and Firefox is at 100%.
[23:19] <theadmin> letsgets: As long as the copy is on a different filesystem, that would work
[23:20] <Charcoalcat> Plus other stuff plays fine like Totem sound or Youtube in Firefox. It's just Livestream.
[23:20] <EriC^^> *i'm no
[23:20] <Marasgeon> EriC^^: Should I replace the disk?
[23:20] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: check the preferences and go to the simultaneous output
[23:20] <EriC^^> Marasgeon: back up your important data to another disk
[23:20] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: is the tickbox checked?
[23:21] <Marasgeon> is there a way to check disk and fix bad sectors?
[23:21] <EriC^^> Marasgeon: yeah, i think so
[23:21] <jdfskitz> yes, there is. I usually get to it through the grub menu
[23:21] <EriC^^> Marasgeon: sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a
[23:21] <EriC^^> Marasgeon: that should give a report of the disks health i think
[23:22] <EriC^^> Marasgeon: if it gets really bad you can use badblocks i think to get the bad sectors and use fsck to not use them or something
[23:22] <EriC^^> Marasgeon: but it's better to get another disk it will get worse i think
[23:23] <Marasgeon> thank you  Eric^^ and jdfskitz, have a good night!
[23:23] <droid909> if i have lubuntu i still can have remote desctop, right?
[23:23] <EriC^^> no problem
[23:23] <EriC^^> Marasgeon: you too!
[23:23] <neopsyche> ikonia: again, my apologies
[23:23] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: It wasn't checked. I checked it. Do I need to reboot?
[23:23] <Jordan_U> Marasgeon: Do you have backups of all of the important files on this disk?
[23:24] <Marasgeon> not yet Jordan_U
[23:24] <Jordan_U> Marasgeon: You need to do that, regardless of the health of the drive.
[23:25] <Marasgeon> yeah I know mate, just neglecting it
[23:25] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: I'm unsure, can you do one more thing for me before that, in a terminal type alsamixer
[23:25] <Bashing-om> Marasgeon: Be aware, there is no perfect hard drive , have a bad sector in and of that is not a real bad thing, what is bad is if these bad sector(s) can not be reallocated .  smartmontools will tell ya .
[23:25] <Marasgeon> ok
[23:26] <Marasgeon> I'll check it
[23:26] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: Everything looks okay? I'll try and put up a screenshot in a second.
[23:26] <Marasgeon> so bad blocks caused by physical damage only?
[23:26] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: use the arrowkeys to select speaker and hit enter
[23:26] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: that is if everything's volume is up of course
[23:27] <droid909> Marasgeon: there soft bad blocks too, but they are rare
[23:27] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: not enter -.- sorry, tired, f6
[23:27] <jdfskitz> Charcoatcat: choose the correct sound card
[23:27] <Jordan_U> Marasgeon: It's possible that the bad block was caused by a loss of power while writing to the block, if the block was half written to then it's corrupted.
[23:28] <Marasgeon> ok, guys thanks a lot for the information, have a good night everyone
[23:28] <nda_> I think I have a problem with ripping an audio CD using Rhythmbox. It seems to just stop while copying 15/74 tracks, and it never progresses. The CD doesn't stop spinning, and I keep hearing the laser head move every second. Any ideas?
[23:28] <Jordan_U> droid909: I can't imagine anything I would call a "soft bad block" that would show up via S.M.A.R.T. .
[23:28] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16623407/screenshots/alsamixer.png
[23:29] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: is the realtek ALC887-VD the correct sound card
[23:29] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: I have default and HDA Intel PCH in the menu when I press F6.
[23:29] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: It sounds right?
[23:30] <Jordan_U> nda_: Can you play the CD normally? Is it scratched. I assume that with 74 tracks, these are not all full songs. What is on this audio CD?
[23:30] <droid909> Jordan_U: http://smallbusiness.chron.com/bad-blocks-mean-hard-drive-failing-75578.html
[23:30] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: After restarting my browser after checking the box, I heard sound in Livestream for a second.
[23:31] <nda_> It's a brand new audio CD with voice clips (learning material). I've played some of the tracks just fine, but I can try track 15, 16 and later.
[23:31] <droid909> Jordan_U: Not all bad sectors are created equal, and there are two different types of sector errors: hard and soft. A hard bad sector has suffered physical damage to a certain block of space, such as from an impact, manufacturing defect or even a small speck of dust on the drive's internal disk. A soft bad sector is essentially a spot that the operating system finds a problem with. One way an OS finds a soft bad sector is if the sector's error-cor
[23:31] <nda_> Jordan_U
[23:31] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: after you selecct the HDA intel PCH are the volumes up
[23:31] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: it's possible that the browser might have just needed reset, and you may just need to clear the cache
[23:31] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: The volumes look exactly the same after selecting it.
[23:31] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: But it doesn't work in Chromium, either.
[23:32] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: the cache is usually shared
[23:32] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: Huh. How do I clear it?
[23:33] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: under volume control and playback I would make sure that the sound is up specifically to your browsers as well..
[23:33] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: depends on the browser
[23:34] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: I doubt it's the issue though..
[23:34] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: Hm, Chromium was muted. Unmuting it didn't change anything, though.
[23:35] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: re open the browser again?
[23:35] <nda_> Jordan_U: I can apparently listen to the tracks without any issues. I listened to track 15, 16 and later ones.
[23:35] <nda_> Jordan_U: Still, the ripping process stops on or after track 15 :S
[23:36] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: also make sure flash isn't muted if there is an option
[23:36] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: Restarted both browsers, no change. Also there's no flash option, but it can't be muted because Youtube works.
[23:36] <blackangelpr> i am also testing to rip my russian course cd on flac with just 3 tracks for the full cd and takes long so far but its working
[23:37] <jdfskitz> so it's just the livestream...
[23:37] <nda_> blackangelpr: Glad it works in your case, at least! No idea why it doesn't work with my course CD. :(
[23:37] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: can you link me the livesteam?
[23:37] <Jordan_U> droid909: Thanks, I wasn't familiar with that terminology. Learn something new every day :0
[23:37] <Jordan_U> s/:0/:)/
[23:37] <droid909> Jordan_U: np :)
[23:37] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: http://www.livestream.com/kyrtian
[23:38] <blackangelpr> nda_, might have protective codecs?  i will try with cd two so it might have protection i let you know in a few minutes
[23:38] <nda_> blackangelpr: Thanks! I can listen to the already-ripped tracks, which may be a bit strange?
[23:39] <nda_> I mean if that was the case
[23:39] <blackangelpr> nda_, the orange bar on the lower right still going?
[23:39] <nda_> blackangelpr: Nope
[23:39] <blackangelpr> :(
[23:40] <nda_> >.<
[23:40] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: Try sudo apt-get install libasound2-plugins
[23:40] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: then restart your browser.
[23:40] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[23:40] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: >.>
[23:41] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: just making sure, not trying to insult you. Is the audio up on the video itself?
[23:42] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: No problem, definitely not insulted, just trying to show what's going on.
[23:42] <Enissay> how to move a folder and all it's content to another place ?  "mv /a /b" will do ? (I forgot xD)
[23:42] <Charcoalcat> Oh, about the audio thing, but still not an insult.
[23:42] <Charcoalcat> Yep, I've checked it multiple times.
[23:42] <jdfskitz> Can somebody else assist charcoalcat with this issue?
[23:42] <Enissay> oh, the -R
[23:44] <nda_> Okay, I think I'll give up on ripping my CD using Ubuntu or any other Linux distro, and I'll see if I can do it on Windows instead. Tired of shaving the yak. :\
[23:44] <Charcoalcat> If it helps, I just tried this: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/09/watch-live-streams-on-ubuntu-via-video-player/ with vlc and mplayer, and it doesn't have sound either.
[23:45] <blackangelpr> nda_,  can you tell me what course it is so i can look on the internet if you want you can page me private :p if you dont want anyone else to know :p just saying XD
[23:45] <EiEiOhh> 14.04- Can I increase my root partition size without reinstalling Ubuntu?
[23:45] <blackangelpr> EiEiOhh, many ways to do it depends how you installed ubuntu
[23:46] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: Thanks for trying to help!
[23:46] <blackangelpr> EiEiOhh, http://askubuntu.com/questions/492054/how-to-extend-my-root-partition
[23:46] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: I need to go, so I apologize
[23:46] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: what I can say is you are probably missing a lib file.
[23:46] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: No problem, and thanks for the tip!
[23:47] <jdfskitz> Charcoalcat: probably try and find out how to reinstall support for vlc or Mplayer.
[23:47] <Charcoalcat> jdfskitz: I'll look into that!
[23:47] <nda_> blackangelpr: Oh that's nice of you. Not sure if it can be found though.. But this is the one: http://www.abookhouse.com/Bookhouse/BookDetail.aspx?Code=JA002834
[23:50] <pixelkat_> my sound settings are gone from my top bar
[23:51] <pixelkat_> what do
[23:51] <blackangelpr> nda_,  hard hard sorry i try but only other things are showing than that cd :(  my regards
[23:51] <ubuntu-studio> Hello everybody! I have a quick question. What is the name of the application that you can do video chat with? Is it called UNC Video? Or something? Lol
[23:51] <pixelkat_> skype
[23:51] <nda_> blackangelpr: It's cool. Thanks for trying.  I am running out of space- is there anyway I can move the whole installation to a 64gb USB stick and keep all the addtional software that I have installed?
[23:55] <Dracus> Been using Ubuntu on a machine for about a year now, but suddenly the wireless connection is really iffy, and slow. Every other machine, be it a different format, or OS, is blazing fast in comparison
[23:55] <Dracus> what do?
[23:55] <daftykins> Dracus: a clue of the wireless adapter make and model in question would be a good starting point
[23:55] <EiEiOhh> blackangelpr, I created two partitions at install... root (slash) and a home partition
[23:56] <Dracus> Sure, sorry. I just ran lspci and a wall of text came up daftykins
[23:56] <daftykins> Dracus: should be pretty easy to pull out the relevant entry
[23:57] <Dracus> The laptop is an unknown year hp pavillion dv6, and the hardware is a Broadcom BCM4313 WNAdapter
[23:57] <Dracus> It's 802.11bgn if that helps
[23:57] <Dracus> Every other device is at our standard ~20mbps but using sudo-apt get yields results less than 1kbps sometimes
[23:57] <Dracus> and other times websites simply refuse to load
[23:58] <daftykins> i take it you're going by the same repo to base this comparison?
[23:58] <Dracus> Lamens terms, I'm a learner
[23:58] <Dracus> Repo?
[23:58] <daftykins> the other systems that are fast, are pulling packages and updates from the exact same package repositories?
[23:58] <daftykins> not a different 'mirror' ?
[23:59] <daftykins> so if you plug this HP in with wired, it's fine? (to prove the situation)
[23:59] <Dracus> the ethernet connection on this machine is borked
[23:59] <Dracus> children and their habit of plugging things in stupidly
[23:59] <blackangelpr> EiEiOhh, correct your home is where all your information are from the users and root is for the system  so do not worry about the example have a messy configuration the basic is the same select the partition you want to rezise  here you go :P might this help https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDgUwWkvuIY


[08:34] <mup> Issue operator#277 closed: Helper library of common operations <Created by stub42> <Closed by jnsgruk> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/277>
[14:50] <mup> Issue operator#863 opened: Unclear from docstring if `add_layer` affects the output of `get_plan` <Created by sed-i> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/863>
[23:14] <mup> PR operator#864 opened: Doc tweak: clarify what Container.get_plan actually returns <Created by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/864>
[23:16] <mup> Issue operator#228 closed: Adopt a standard and well integrated templating module <Created by niemeyer> <Closed by benhoyt> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/228>