[07:41] <dougbb> if the file system with your music is flaky, that could be what is causing the problem with both programs, but maybe banshee is handling it very poorly
[07:41] <dougbb> Jordan_U: it definitely shouldn't be doing what it is doing now in any case :)
[07:41] <phunyguy_x1_> dougbb i dont think the filesystem is flaky, i think gvfs is flaky
[07:41] <dougbb> from the client perspective, same difference
[07:41] <lonewulf85> Is there a way to set unity so it will start on the applications lens? Please.
[07:42] <phunyguy_x1_> yup
[07:42] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: I can't be sure that this won't have a terrible system stopping side effect, but I don't think it will.  I have to reboot?
[07:42] <phunyguy_x1_> lol
[07:42] <murlidhar> hello all i am not able to run the app gnome-media-player. can anyone help me run it successfully
[07:42] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: Yes.
[07:42] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: And lose all data in currently running applications.
[07:42] <dougbb> worst that happens with that is that the system comes to a screeching halt ... make sure you don't have anything open you care about
[07:42] <murlidhar> gives some segmentation fault.
[07:43] <phunyguy_x1_> seems to have no effect Jordan_U
[07:43] <phunyguy_x1_> and no smoke from the side of the laptop
[07:43] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: Please pastebin the complete output of "ps aux".
[07:44] <phunyguy_x1_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1349958/
[07:44] <murlidhar> this is the error i get when i try to run gnome-media-player . http://pastebin.com/NUtx0vuF
[07:47] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: Please file a bug report against upstart. As far as I can tell, upstart really should have reaped this process.
[07:47] <phunyguy_x1_> oh boy
[07:47] <phunyguy_x1_> not sure I know how
[07:47] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: ubuntu-bug upstart
[07:48] <phunyguy_x1_> well I dont really know the issue
[07:48] <lynnx> e
[07:48] <murlidhar> this is the error i get when i try to run gnome-media-player . http://pastebin.com/NUtx0vuF
[07:49] <phunyguy_x1_> no-need to repost murlidhar
[07:50] <phunyguy_x1_> !patience murlidhar
[07:50] <phunyguy_x1_> !patience | murlidhar
[07:50] <phunyguy_x1_> fail
[07:50] <phunyguy_x1_> :P
[07:50] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1_: Say that "PID 1, upstart, failed to reap one of its children (banshee)" and include the output of "ps aux" and "pstree -p". And please subscribe me (JordanU on launchpad) to the report.
[07:50] <murlidhar> phunyguy_x1_: i know . sorry about that  . i thought please missed it.
[07:50] <phunyguy_x1_> k
[07:51] <murlidhar> thanks for reminding me though :)
[07:51] <murlidhar> so here what you do ? take care of such people who make noise here ?
[07:53] <murlidhar> ah nevermind guys :) guess no one knows how to solve. take cares all . bye...
[07:55] <phunyguy_x1_> done Jordan_U
[07:55] <phunyguy_x1_> thanks for the assist
[07:55] <phunyguy_x1_> rebooting now
[07:56] <phunyguy_x1> man this thing reboots fast =D
[07:56] <phunyguy_x1> (Lenovo X1 Carbon, i7, and SSD)
[07:57] <tdignan> nice
[07:57] <tdignan> i have a low-end laptop, but ubuntu boots about 20x faster than win7 anyway
[07:57] <phunyguy_x1> cool
[07:58] <phunyguy_x1> this belongs to my job
[07:58] <phunyguy_x1> i wish it was mine
[07:58] <phunyguy_x1> lol
[07:58] <tdignan> I will have to upgrade soon. I'm starting to get kinda wasteful with my browser tabs..
[07:58] <tdignan> I use this for work...
[07:58] <tdignan> unfortunately, lol
[07:58] <phunyguy_x1> lol I have a Microsoft Surface waiting for me on Monday too *vomit*
[07:58] <tdignan> maybe a little ram will fix the issue, but I think the CPU is the bottleneck here
[07:58] <phunyguy_x1> may try to stick ubuntu on it
[07:59] <tdignan> oh, I'm sorry to hear that
[07:59] <tdignan> it might work as a coaster
[07:59] <joe__> hi
[07:59] <Jordan_U> phunyguy_x1: Now I'm finding from #upstart that I was probably wrong it my assessment, so I might ask you to close that bug report :(
[08:00] <pecock> he
[08:00] <pecock> !ot
[08:01] <bioh> Hello everyone. Is there any application or extension that allows adjust different channels volume (like a sound mixer in sound settings) right from toolbar?
[08:01] <phunyguy_x1> k
[08:01] <joe__> have an levono t61 with lubuntu. wlan not works. driver is iwlagn. Problem seems to be: iwconfig say: Power Management:off. how can i activate power management? any idea ?
[08:02] <phunyguy_x1> joe__,  Fn-F5
[08:03] <phunyguy_x1> or whichever F-key the antenna is on
[08:03] <whywat> i heard ubuntu no longer support 11.....
[08:04] <joe__> i test FN+F5  no reaction by computer, iwconfig say always power managemant off
[08:11] <auronandace> whywat: 11.10 is still supported
[08:11] <joe__> t61 :: wlan not work. any idea ?
[08:12] <whywat> really ? why then I received a message saying otherwise
[08:13] <auronandace> whywat: what are you talking about
[08:13] <auronandace> !topic | whywat
[08:14] <manulinux> hi
[08:14] <joe__> how i can activate power management set to on for the wlan ? FM+F not works. really Ubuntu 11.04 not supported here ?
[08:15] <auronandace> joe__: 11.04 is no longer supported
[08:15] <joe__> is there a simple method to update ?
[08:16] <auronandace> !eol | joe__
[08:16] <wifioregon> Anyone know of a pdf editor for Ubuntu? Libreoffice seems pretty limited. Or maybe just a pdf to doc or docx convertor?
[08:16] <joe__> thx
[08:23] <thanigai> how can i run this command line (sudo hostapd hostapd.conf) when i insert wifi adaptor.
[08:27] <rinzler> how do I list the video cards I have installed?
[08:30] <Phase> Anyone know a decent free backup service I can automate pushing backups to via bash script?
[08:32] <iqone> http://fusionpower.110mb.com/
[08:38] <rinzler> what is the best way to go about installing the correct drivers for my video card?
[08:50] <nydel> Phase: can you just do a cronjob?
[08:50] <Phase> nydel: sure, but the issue is somewhere to put the files :)
[08:51] <nydel> Phase: ohh you need storage
[08:51] <Phase> yeah
[08:51] <nydel> pm me & i'll give you a shell on my server
[08:51] <nydel> dig?
[08:51] <nydel> infinity space & bandwidth
[08:51] <Phase> infinity space eh
[08:52] <nydel> well i mean as much as you need i guess - i hope it's not like hundreds of gb
[08:52] <Phase> thanks for the offer, but I'd rather know the person
[08:53] <Phase> think I'll just dump it to dropbox
[08:53] <yesudeep> Heya. I'm currently running Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro 17" 5.2 (has two graphics cards with Nvidia 9600GT active). I installed Ubuntu using the amd64+mac Ubuntu 12.10 image. I am able to boot into the system after quite a bit of effort, however, after I enabled the nvidia-current drivers, the login screen does not appear. I am dropped directly into the login shell, which I can use. How do I get Ubuntu to show the login shell?
[08:53] <yesudeep> Also, Ubuntu has been set up to dual boot with Mac OS X Mountain Lion and I do have rEFInd installed to allow me to switch between the two operating systems.
[08:53] <nydel> Phase: hilarious. haha.
[08:54] <nydel> yesudeep: you mean you boot & it automatically logs you in to unity?
[08:54] <zgq> hello
[08:54] <Phase> nydel: :P it's just some minecraft worlds, I've been backing it up manually to my home machine, still might do that, but just automated
[08:55] <yesudeep> nydel: When I boot the machine, it boots me to the login shell and then stops. Unity doesn't show up. Neither does the graphical login screen.
[08:55] <Phase> Does startx still work? haven't used a linux desktop in awhile
[08:56] <nydel> Phase: it's just funny because i just offered you a free host with unjailed shell / ssh, cpanel, a subdomain, sftp, & infinite storage/bandwidth but you don't want it because you're paranoid hehe, which is a good thing in a hacker, so applause.
[08:57] <nydel> ( but not very much applause for not thinking "hmm if this guy /is/ trying to scam me, i can beat him." -- have more confidence! )
[08:57] <Phase> lol
[08:57] <nydel> yesudeep: a terminal?
[08:58] <yesudeep> nydel: yep
[08:58] <yesudeep> nydel: I'm using the terminal and connecting to IRC via Emacs at the moment.
[08:58] <nydel> yesudeep: did you try startx, as Phase suggested?
[08:58] <yesudeep> nydel: going to give that a shot. one sec.
[08:58] <Phase> nydel: I've got a friend I can ask for a some room on his dedi, I just figured I'd see what I could find before that :)
[09:00] <yesudeep> Back on another machine. brb.
[09:00] <nydel> Phase: whatever you like. it's just funny from my end, i offer people free hosting every once in a while & they almost always reject it - it so happens that i'm like the most vigilantly ethical hacker i can be - so it's just so funny to me, like 'ya can't e'en give this stuff away!'
[09:00] <nydel> yesudeep: you could use screen
[09:01] <nydel> yesudeep: launch screen then ctrl-a-ctrl-c then ctrl-a-shift-S then ctrl-a-tab
[09:01] <Phase> nydel: Hah, I'm usually the one telling my friends to be careful with peoples offers of anything.. or read me in and I'll tell you my opinion
[09:01] <yesudeep> Ok. got the error. "FATAL: Module nvidia_current not found." Followed by "no screens found."  "xinit: unable to connect to server: Connection refused."
[09:05] <nydel> Phase: have you got any ideas for yesudeep ?
[09:05] <nydel> be right back need to restart irc client
[09:05] <yesudeep> Hmm. Apparently, a workaround is documented here: http://blog.projectz.me/2012/10/21/setting-up-ubuntu-12-10-on-a-macbook-pro/
[09:06] <Phase> yesudeep: Do you remember which nvidia package you chose?
[09:07] <yesudeep> Phase: nvidia-current
[09:07] <Phase> try it and see if it helps
[09:09] <yesudeep> Phase: yep. doing that at the moment. :)
[09:10] <yesudeep> I'm actually happy I've been able to get Ubuntu running on my MBP after almost a year. It had stopped booting.
[09:10] <yesudeep> nydel: yep. i use tmux.
[09:11] <Phase> still need to try tmux
[09:11] <Phase> I've used screen for years
[09:11] <yesudeep> it's just as easy. the prefix key is C-b instead of C-a.
[09:12] <nydel> not familiar with tmux yet
[09:12] <yesudeep> hooray! that worked.
[09:12] <yesudeep> :)
[09:13] <nydel> yesudeep: yay!!! :)
[09:13] <Phase> yesudeep: Awesome
[09:13] <nydel> way to go Phase
[09:13] <Phase> yesudeep actually found it themself :P
[09:15] <yesudeep> this is awesome. thank you guys, nydel and Phase :)
[09:16] <Phase> glad you got it working :)
[09:16] <nydel> yesudeep: yw. thanks for telling me about tmux, i'm having a ball
[09:17] <Phase> http://willwarren.com/docs/swiftapi/latest/SwiftApi.html
[09:17] <Phase> found something to keep me occupied for a bit
[09:20] <nydel> wow tmux is so cool.
[09:21] <yesudeep> nydel: if you spend quite a bit of time using the Terminal, you might like bash-ido as well. :)
[09:21] <yesudeep> nydel: it completes file paths using the emacs-style "ido-mode". way faster than using just bash-completion.
[09:22] <nydel> that sounds great & like /exactly/ what i need for something right now
[09:22] <theadmin> yesudeep: If you spend quite a bit of time using the Terminal, you'll find yourself using the Z Shell sooner or later :P
[09:23] <yesudeep> theadmin: haha. i'm happy with bash. :p
[09:23] <nydel> i just found the source
[09:23] <nydel> theadmin: is that so!?
[09:23] <theadmin> nydel: Well, I find zsh more powerful
[09:23] <portatile> hallo
[09:23] <Phase> In what ways?
[09:23] <nydel> what do you think of lush?
[09:23] <portatile> bluray
[09:23] <Phase> The only way I interact with linux these days is a terminal (bash shell)
[09:23] <portatile> list
[09:25] <yesudeep> git has actually changed my life. just pull the same configuration over to another machine and i'm all set within minutes.
[09:26] <yesudeep> tons of time saved
[09:27] <blackshirt> yesudeep, great ways to improve
[09:27] <theadmin> yesudeep: Why not Bazaar? Just wondering, I find Git difficult to use, and Bazaar integrates with Ubuntu services better
[09:27] <yesudeep> theadmin: no particular reason. i'm just used to git. :)
[09:28] <theadmin> yesudeep: Mind pm? Want to ask about how you set stuff up
[09:28] <yesudeep> theadmin: plus, the vim Vundle package manager I use clones Vim plugins from github using git. so that kinda helps set up both vim and emacs on all my machines within seconds for example.
[09:29] <blackshirt> git was greats ... Its developed by world famous class kernel hacker
[09:29] <yesudeep> theadmin: http://github.com/gorakhargosh/dotfiles.git <-- vim and general bash configuration.
[09:29] <yesudeep> theadmin: http://github.com/gorakhargosh/gemacs.git <-- emacs configuration. pretty simple really. :)
[09:30] <theadmin> yesudeep: Nah not that, I mean uh, do you use git on your entire home directory or something?
[09:30] <yesudeep> theadmin: nope. not that. we have NFS at work for our home directories. they're automatically backed up.
[09:30] <theadmin> yesudeep: Ah, okay
[09:32] <blackshirt> is it possible to switch entirely from ubuntu to other debian based distro ?
[09:33] <theadmin> blackshirt: Well, yes, by reinstalling...
[09:33] <theadmin> Other than that no
[09:33] <rymate1234> well
[09:33] <rymate1234> youcan switch to other 'buntus
[09:33] <mote> Help. please. -I'm trying to view my system log with the build in "System Log", but hen i click it in the Dash it does not start. -Why? (Quantal)
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> or install another DE then log off and log in to the new DE
[09:34] <blackshirt> theadmin, not that ways ... I mean do it with system preinstalled
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> mote: try running the app from terminal, the output may give clues
[09:34] <yesudeep> ubuntu has come a long way. as a returning user, i'm finding it to be more polished now. :)
[09:34] <rymate1234> blackshirt, why would you want to
[09:34] <mote> ActionParsnip: whats the command, do you know?
[09:35] <theadmin> blackshirt: No, you'd break everything
[09:35] <blackshirt> actionparsnip, that not a matter i mean ...
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> mote: if you grep for 'Exec' in the file in /usr/sahre/applications which runs the command, it will tell you
[09:35] <blackshirt> theadmin, thats not greats
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> mote: what is the name of the app you run:
[09:36] <rymate1234> blackshirt, why would you want to switch to another debian based distro
[09:36] <blackshirt> theadmin, i have successfully switched my debian to other distro...
[09:36] <blackshirt> Exactly the other debbian based distros
[09:36] <mote> ActionParsnip: found it, gnome-system-log. it starts from command line??  But thanks. it was a good idea
[09:37] <blackshirt> rymate1234, just want to know if apt was greats :)
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> mote: grep system-log /usr/share/applications/* | grep Exec
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> mote: should tell you the command
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> mote: you get the idea :)
[09:37] <mote> Yes. Thanks yu
[09:37] <rymate1234> olo
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> blackshirt: it's alreet, try apt-fast :)
[09:38] <mote> ActionParsnip: Yes thank you. have a googd sunday..
[09:38] <blackshirt> theadmin, i think you're right..ubuntu was made a big changes/hooks to the apt/standard packages core ...
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> mote: yeah, working 12 hours. Great :(
[09:38] <mote> ActionParsnip: argh. man, sorry to hear. got a watch somewhere?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> mote: if you run the command in terminal. If it crashes, you should get output in the terminal which should give clues
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> mote: yeah its 0939 here
[09:39] <blackshirt> actionparsnip, why i should go stick with apt-fast ?
[09:39] <mote> ActionParsnip: i'm the sunday morning table with. oh. i'm at 10:39
[09:39] <mote> you are in UK?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> blackshirt: because it downloads using multiple sources via axel. Its like http download vs torrent
[09:39] <mote> ActionParsnip: You are in Uk. -DK here.
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> mote: UK all the way
[09:40] <mote> ActionParsnip: Well gtg. cu later. ;-)
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> blackshirt: I always advise it to those using CLI to install apps
[09:40] <blackshirt> actionparsnip, i think that was not my case guys
[09:40] <exalt> hello, in which logbook in /var/log are username changes logged ?
[09:41] <Nastya> hi all
[09:41] <blackshirt> actionparnsip, yes, i always relies on apt / cli to install and uninstall something
[09:41] <AminosAmigos> Hello why webapps were not ported Officially to 12.04  :(
[09:42] <theadmin> AminosAmigos: They were, sudo apt-get install fogger
[09:42] <Nastya> http://vk.com/id189043294
[09:43] <chris_> Hi guys, can someone tell me how to remove only one package from the system, not all included in ubuntu-desktop? I think it's something related with meta packages but can't understant it. Where I can find the meta package for Ubuntu and remove it? Thanks in advance :]
[09:44] <rinzler> I am installing a second video card and it isn't displying anything through it, but in Arandr it displays the old working card as [interface]-2 and the new card (that I assume would be labeled [interface]-1) is non existent. any ideas on how to get the new card working?
[09:44] <blackshirt> theadmin, actionparsnip,i think it was greats if you can switch ubuntu to other debian based distros easily ...
[09:44] <theadmin> blackshirt: No, it'd be just crazy.
[09:45] <ariel1234> Hi. Yesterday I was advised to install Wicd instead of default network manager. It worked for the rest of the day, but now it does not work
[09:46] <blackshirt> theadmin, for some perspectives yes, but from others it was good .d .. It was just an idea
[09:46]  * Nastya http://vk.com/id189043294 - it's me join me)
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> chris_: you can remove metapackages, it does nothing
[09:46] <ariel1234> at first the internet never worked, yesterday when i installed Wicd it worked for the rest of the day perfectly, now its useless, does not work at all
[09:46] <ariel1234> just gives an error message
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> blackshirt: it will always take a reinstall to be sure of a stable OS
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[09:46] <blackshirt> theadmin, they all share the same barebones from apt system
[09:47] <ariel1234> what do i enter in to the command line?
[09:47] <theadmin> blackshirt: No, they do not.
[09:47] <theadmin> blackshirt: Ubuntu uses it's own packages, patches, repositories, everything is different. Package names would differ too.
[09:47] <ariel1234> what do i enter into command line to ping <IP_ADDRESS> as actionparsnip said?
[09:47] <blackshirt> theadmin, yes,we know ... Ubuntu make differgences so far with others .d
[09:48] <theadmin> ariel1234: ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: its the same in ALL OSes
[09:48] <ariel1234> i entered in ping <IP_ADDRESS> and it said network unreachable
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: do you get replies, or is the network unreachable?
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: ok, press CTRL+C to kill it
[09:48] <ariel1234> it said 'connect: Network is Unreachable'
[09:49] <theadmin> ariel1234: Is the Wicd daemon started? "sudo start wicd"
[09:49] <ariel1234> it said exactly what i have written in inverted commas
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: if you run:  sudo dhclient3 wlan0     do you get an IP via DHCP?
[09:50] <ariel1234> yes, i have the actual wicd program open, but it does not connect
[09:50] <rinzler> I am installing a second video card and nothing is being displayed through it, but in Arandr it displays the old working card as [interface]-2 and the new card (that I assume would be labeled [interface]-1) is non existent. Any ideas on how to get the new card working correctly?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: if you run:  sudo rfkill list      are there any blocks?
[09:50] <theadmin> ariel1234: No, not the graphical interface, the service. Run "sudo start wicd".
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: do you dual boot the system?
[09:51] <ariel1234> no, it says absolutely no blocks
[09:51] <ariel1234> it is a dual boot system with windows 7
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: in Windows, have you set the adapter to not be able to wake up the systsem in Device Manager
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: also, did you disable power management on the device in Device Manager too
[09:52] <ariel1234> i dont know but it is a desktop computer i am talking about
[09:52] <ariel1234> and because the internet is not working on that i am using my lubuntu laptop to message you
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: fine...did you disable what I said earlier....
[09:53] <ariel1234> disable what? sorry
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: read about 5 lines up...
[09:53] <ariel1234> disable power management in windows
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: i'm not typing all that out agaijn, use your eyes
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: and the wake up
[09:53] <ariel1234> yes i am booting into windows now
[09:54] <demonboy> i have a wireless issue as well lol i have a wmp11 linksys PCI card and ubuntu 12.10... when i run #rfkill list all i get no feed back what so ever, and i have had issues w/ backtrack with this card but #rfkill unblock all generally works because backtrack has a hardware and software block on it for some odd reason
[09:54] <ariel1234> do you want me to follow this ' in Windows, have you set the adapter to not be able to wake up the systsem in Device Manager'
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: yes, it can affect dual boot systems because windows can 'hold' the wireless device. very annoying
[09:54] <ariel1234> ok gosh
[09:55] <ariel1234> would that explain why internet only sometimes worked when i used network manager not wicd
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> demonboy: backtrack isn't supported here. Try #backtrack-linux
[09:55] <rinzler> any ideas on my dual video card issue?
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: I find wicd a bit more flexible with interface names and so forth
[09:55] <demonboy> action i am on 12.10 ubuntu i was mearly refrencing backtrack as i run tht off my usb drive
[09:55] <ariel1234> i understand
[09:55] <ariel1234> and yesterday as i didn't use windows it was until the evening, then linux in the morning
[09:56] <ariel1234> where is device manager in windows
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> demonboy: can you run:  sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a; uname -a; sudo rfkill list     and pastebin the output please. Thanks
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: right click my computer -> manage
[09:57] <demonboy> no... it has no connection but when i run tht command it sees it and uses the broadcom driver i ran tht to see if it atleast recognized the card
[09:57] <ariel1234> i am doing as you say
[09:58] <ariel1234> i have got computer management open in windows seven, what do i do now
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: device manager is in that list
[10:00] <ariel1234> ive got device manager open and opened the properties window for my TPLINK wireless card
[10:00] <demonboy> @action i will manually type the output of that command
[10:00] <demonboy> in a pastebin link tht is
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> demonboy: do you not have a USB stick etc?
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: right click it and hit properties
[10:01] <Calinou> is it safe to create a new partition table on a medion computer, removing the recovery/OEM partitions if I do not want to dualboot?
[10:01] <ariel1234> what do i do, actionparsnip, i have the properties winow open for it
[10:01] <demonboy> yes i do
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: I suggest you make the DVDs from the restore partition, just in case
[10:01] <Calinou> no blank DVDs around
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> demonboy: why not copy the text to a file, then transfer the file to a system with web access and pastebin that
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: your call then dude, you sound like you understand what is going to happen
[10:02] <Seveas> Calinou, if you don't want those recovery partitions anymore, you can do whatever you want with them. Including "removing" them by creating a new partition table
[10:02] <Calinou> even if i did a DVD from restore partition, this doesn't mean I'd be able to reinstall windows if everything went wrong
[10:03] <demonboy> because the usb is currently housing the 12.10 instance im currently running on another computer
[10:03] <Calinou> the recovery dvds do not let you do that
[10:03] <Calinou> (no windows install DVD as usual -- cheap computer manufacturers ahoy)
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: thats what they make, instead of cluttering up the system you can make DVDs
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> demonboy: or take a screenshot with a phone and use that :)
[10:04] <ariel1234> ActionParsnip I have network manager open
[10:04] <demonboy> that works
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: its not network manager
[10:04] <Calinou> how many DVDs are required, usually?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> demonboy: thinking outside the box gets you ahead in life
[10:04] <had> Hi @all
[10:05] <ariel1234> actionparsnip sorry i mean i have 'TP-LINK Wireless N adapter #3 Properties' open
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: http://www.mochasoft.dk/images/wol2.png
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: it varys, I'd guess at 3
[10:05] <ariel1234> ActionParsnip I have that exact thing open
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: ok untick wake up pc and power management
[10:06] <Calinou> ok. i run into two other issues when using the live cd: it looks like i can't install the proprietary nvidia driver (no option to do so in software sources/additional drivers), and an high-pitched sound constantly plays unless i'm moving mouse
[10:06] <Calinou> (the latter doesn't happen on windows)
[10:07] <ariel1234> ActionParsnip the option ' Allow this device to wake the computer' is grey, and does not  look like it can be selected.
[10:07] <ariel1234> ActionParsnip This is a desktop computer i am talking about.
[10:08] <ariel1234> ActionParsnip should i unselect the option 'allow the computer to turn off this device to save power
[10:08] <had> I have an interesting problem with my wireless keyboard (logitech).
[10:08] <had> Sometimes it seems not to work anymore, but this is only partially. (AudioControll work, Ctrl+Alt+Del  also works)
[10:08] <had> Can somone help me where to look for the problem?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: the fact it is a desktop PC is irrelevant
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: yes disable the ability to turn of the device too.
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> had: are the batteries ok?
[10:10] <had> yes
[10:10] <ariel1234> ActionParsnip: The option 'allow this device to wake the computer' is in grey and is not clickable
[10:11] <had> sry i forgot if i unplug and reconnect the usb-token its works again
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> had: if you unload then reload the driver module, does it work without unplugging?
[10:12] <ariel1234> ActionParsnip: Shall i restart the computer now?
[10:12] <had> how can i do that if i have no keyboard plugged in ?
[10:12] <demonboy> @action http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/554253_4883473808815_230895210_n.jpg
[10:12] <ariel1234> shall i go back to ubuntu and will it work?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: yes, try Ubuntu now. Should help
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: patience dude...sheesh
[10:13] <ariel1234> sorry
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | demonboy
[10:13] <wlosio> Hey guys, how to record sound from two sources??  from TS3 (what my friends talking) and Micro?? at this same time?
[10:14] <wlosio> Its possible?!
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> had: make it work, then start investigating
[10:15] <had> you mean get an normal keyboard additionally?
[10:15] <had> how can i find out which driver is for my keyboard?
[10:15] <had> input: Logitech USB Receiver as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb8/8-1/8-1:1.1/input/input7
[10:15] <ariel1234> ActionParsnip; In ubuntu default network manager it used to say ' Device busy' did that mean it was being held by windows
[10:15] <andreas> @wlosio: not sure, but in Win it was possible, if you set the "Stereo Mix" in
[10:15] <had> generic-usb 0003:046D:C529.0006: input,hiddev0,hidraw3: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Logitech USB Receiver] on usb-0000:00:1d.2-1/input1
[10:16] <andreas> @wlosio: set the "Stereo Mix" as Input, I mean
[10:16] <demonboy> @action the command #lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4  returns no results
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> had: if you run:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; lsmod       pastebin the output please
[10:16] <wlosio> andreas, im know dat in Windows XP its possible, but Windows XP is too old... im preffer use Xubuntu :)
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> demonboy: is the system a laptop?
[10:17] <demonboy> no its a desktop
[10:17] <andreas> yes, me too, but I'm not sure if there's such a feature in Ubuntu as well ... just a thought :)
[10:17] <ariel1234> ActionParsnip: Will this be a perminant fix, the option you told me to change
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> demonboy: you can use the packages on the install CD to setup the wifi. Those cheap broadcoms are super easy to setup
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: should be, as long as youi don't change it back
[10:17] <ariel1234> good
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: is it ok nnow?
[10:17] <had> ok i have helped me with an onscreen keyboard
[10:18] <demonboy> i have a live usb i dont use cd's
[10:18] <ariel1234> it works now, i dont know whether it will work later
[10:18] <demonboy> and im running it live w/ a 4gb persistance
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: thought so, your junk Windows OS was causing the issue
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> demonboy: same difference, you can still enable the install media as a package source
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: its why its the first thing I ask
[10:19] <demonboy> how would i do this?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> demonboy: use software centre, or uncomment the top line in /etc/apt/sources.list that relates to the CD
[10:20] <demonboy> mmk
[10:20] <had> @ActionParsnip: Thx, I will try to find out which driver i need to reload. Than wait till it happens again, reload the driver and see if it helps. And then i will come back here ok?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> had: if you can pastebin the text, I can advise..
[10:21] <ariel1234> ActionParsnip: Now we have found out that it is not a drivers problem, but a windows dualboot problem, shall i remove Wicd
[10:21] <had> pastebin? sry not native en-speaker
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: if wicd is working, why bother
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> had: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[10:22] <ariel1234> no, default network manager is working, so should i remove wicd
[10:22] <had> THX
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> had: put the text there and hit paste, when the page changes, copy the new URL in the address bar and paste that in here
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> ariel1234: if it's not in use, why not
[10:23] <ariel1234> ok thanks for your help
[10:25] <ssasori> nyone here know an easy to follow tutorial on setting up a webcam on my home pc, to be streaming video, and accesible via webpage???
[10:26] <Calinou> i run into two other issues when using the live cd: it looks like i can't install the proprietary nvidia driver (no option to do so in software sources/additional drivers), and an high-pitched sound constantly plays unless i'm moving mouse (the sound issue doesn't happen on windows)
[10:27] <Guest23590> Help, ubuntu cant find my wireless network card on a macbook from 2008.
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> ssasori: http://www.junauza.com/2009/07/turn-ordinary-webcam-into-security-spy.html
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> Guest23590: what wifi chip are you using?
[10:28] <llutz> ssasori: http://www.area536.com/projects/streaming-video/
[10:28] <had> @ActionParsnip http://paste.ubuntu.com/1350193/
[10:29] <had> is that ok for u?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> had: run:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; lsmod      pastebin the output please
[10:29] <Guest23590> ActionParnsip> I dont know. How do i see that_
[10:29] <had> ok
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest23590: run:  sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a; uname -a      pastebin the output please http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:31] <had> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1350196/
[10:32] <beta4> hi
[10:33] <nikolam> Hi,, I have this message when starting Ubuntu-minimal in Virtualbox: error:sparse file not allowed. press any cay to continue.  It is Btrf file system installed.
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> had: try:   gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local     above the 'exit 0' line add:    modprobe -r bluetooth; sleep 2; modprobe bluetooth      save the new file and reboot to test
[10:33] <nikolam> after few seconds system boots
[10:33] <ssasori> ActionParsnip: llutz: Thanks guys!  going to go try it out now.
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> nikolam: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[10:35] <beta4> tried to install latest 304.64 nvidia drivers, and now I'm stuck at 1024x768 without graphic acceleration, can someone help me?
[10:35] <nikolam> ActionParsnip, I think so. will re-check
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> had: you can try commands like that in the file, see which it needs. It may need 2 or 3 unloading then reloading
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> beta4: tried:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    then reboot
[10:36] <Mortu> Hi, regardint Empathy Internet messaging .. is there any way that in my Buddy list I can see them by their nicknames and not by their id? // without editing them one by one of course. Thx
[10:36] <had> ActionParsnip: i dont think this will help, because the keyboard is not using bluetooth
[10:37] <beta4> already tried, it generated an xorg.conf with something (previous one was empty), reboot and... stuck at 640x480, even worse. Replaced xorg.conf with an empty one, now I'm back @ 1024x768
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> had: does it use it's own reciever?
[10:38] <beta4> in any case lsmod only shows vesafb, non nvidia module
[10:38] <had> yes but its a wireless 2.4 technologie
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> had: try: rfcomm   then
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> beta4: then roll back to the previous driver if they worked
[10:39] <had> ActionParsnip: rfcomm does not output anything
[10:39] <beta4> previous drivers were open drivers, not good for steam on ubuntu, could only do some 3d desktop effects and nothing more
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> had: its not meant to....think about it
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> had: what I suggested before...then read your own pastebin....
[10:40] <beta4> any idea why nvidia module fails to load? P.S: I've installed the drivers via the ubuntu-x ppa
[10:40] <had> bluetooth             180104  10 rfcomm,bnep
[10:40] <had> you mean that?
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> had: yes, its a kernel module, not a command
[10:42] <demonboy> action are you still here?
[10:42] <had> k, but that should i do now? sry if i dont understand
[10:43] <llutz> ActionParsnip: rfcomm is a module AND name of a program
[10:43] <administrator> ni s
[10:43] <llutz> ActionParsnip: rfcomm (1)           - RFCOMM configuration utility
[10:43] <administrator> w s
[10:44] <beta4> may it be related to this error:
[10:44] <beta4> $ sudo insmod nvidia_current
[10:44] <beta4> insmod: can't read 'nvidia_current': No such file or directory
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> llutz: gotcha
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> had: scroll up where I recommended adding to /etc/rc.local
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> had: same line, different module name
[10:47] <had> can u send it again plz, sry i clear it accidentially
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> beta4: can you pastebin the output of:   sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep nvidia; apt-cache policy nvidia-current
[10:47] <astropirate> Can I create a swap partition after I have installed my OS?
[10:47] <astropirate> without losign data
[10:47] <demonboy> i went to install ubuntu to my hdd on the desktop so i can y=use my usb as a thumb drive and transfer packages and now im looking at a black screen w/ a bunch of info on it the last line reads: Output VGA-1 is running on CRTC 0 using output A
[10:48] <nikolam> ActionParsnip, debsums -acls gives 2 changed packages: binutils and g++ you think that will be enough for installed files verification?
[10:48] <Guest23590> ActionParsnip: This i got> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1350233/
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Guest23590: that's not all of the output of the command
[10:49] <beta4> http://pastebin.com/fnqYQETW
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> beta4: I suggest you contact the PPA maintainers to let them know of the issue
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> nikolam: then the image is bad. you wil need to redownlod it, then re-MD5 test
[10:51] <had> ActionParsnip: can u plz write me again what i should do (adding to rc.local), because i cleared the window accidentally
[10:51] <beta4> ok, thanks for the help
[10:51] <Guest23590> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1350244/
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Guest23590: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> had: try:   gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local     above the 'exit 0' line add:    modprobe -r bluetooth; sleep 2; modprobe bluetooth      save the new file and reboot to test
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> had: just change the module name in the line
[10:54] <beta4> wait: something happened: did 'sudo modprobe nvidia_current', logged out, logged back in and now nvidia drivers work!
[10:54] <Guest23590> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[10:54] <had> sry for my english i dont have the statement in my history i accidentally deleted it. Can you resend it?
[10:54] <beta4> full resolution again, glxgears ok
[10:54] <beta4> so it's just that the module does not get loaded at startup
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> had: which statement? I just gave you the instruction again?
[10:55] <beta4> is there a file or something to tell the kernel the list of modules to load @ boot?
[10:55] <had> oh sry i did not see it
[10:55] <had> thx
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> beta4: could try putting the module name in /etc/modules
[10:55] <had> THX a lot for ur help
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> had: you'll be messing with that til it works well.
[10:56] <beta4> tryin' to reboot
[10:56] <hsnmck> hello, I need a tool to do all sort of conversions in the command line, like from ascii to binary, from decimal to binary etc.. and vise-versa. any idea? thanks
[10:57] <nikolam> ActionParsnip, would not that mean something just changed installed package after install? and reinstalling it restores original package contents (is not also package contents default setting for a package?) I have a bunch packages on another machine listed with debsum -acls and I don't believe they are all broken)
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> nikolam: is this in the minimal ISO?
[10:57] <nikolam> ActionParsnip, it is minimal and already installed in VBox with addons
[10:58] <nikolam> And another machine is alternate install on bare metal
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> nikolam: i see
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> nikolam: is it fully updated
[10:58] <nikolam> yup. message in vbox machine appears , stays and boot then ok
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> hsnmck: run: ascii2binary    is anything output?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> nikolam: try the boot option:  nomodeset
[10:59] <nikolam> ActionParsnip, will try
[11:00] <hsnmck> ActionParsnip, it says in the man page that it Convert ASCII numbers to binary.. so it's only ascii numbers and not ascii letters :(
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> nikolam: it always helps with weird video chips
[11:01] <hsnmck> ActionParsnip, oh binary2ascii does that. thanks :)
[11:01] <nikolam> ActionParsnip, it is virtualbox with vbox addons installed
[11:01] <beta4> rebooted, drivers 'almost' work, thanks for the tip on /etc/modules, always forget which file does what
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> hsnmck: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=735140   some bash commands there, surprised you don't just use web stuff to do it
[11:02] <beta4> last issue, brightness is stuck at 100%, can't reduce it
[11:02] <bekks> nikolam: You may ask in #vbox too.
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> beta4: does the system have a make and model?
[11:02] <Calinou> beta4: echo "0" > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[11:02] <almoxarife> i have a file containing for each line a web-address, i want to add to each line prior to the web-address '<IP_ADDRESS>' followed by a fewspaces, how can i do this?
[11:03] <beta4> it's an old  macbookpro
[11:03] <Calinou> (you need admin/root to do so, might want to put that in a script, then run it with sudo)
[11:03] <nikolam> bekks, yes, they helped me removing apready-installed ubuntu-provided vbox addons that instaleld automatically during install
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> beta4: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo dmidecode -t 1
[11:03] <Calinou> or, you can do this: echo 0 > ~/brightness && cp ~/brightness /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: or:  echo "0" | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: much cleaner
[11:04] <beta4> http://pastebin.com/tqVatBRB
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> beta4: so it's a MacBookPro4,1
[11:05] <beta4> echo "1" > /sys/class/backlight/apple_backlight/brightness
[11:05] <beta4> works
[11:06] <beta4> so it's not a kernel issue
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> beta4: bit more detailed than 'old macbook' wouldn't you say?
[11:06] <beta4> sorry, had to be more detailed, you're right
[11:07] <beta4> anyway I think it's funny, changing the drivers from the open to the closed nvidia ones broke the userspace brightness control
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> beta4: does the echo command make everything ok?
[11:07] <beta4> yes, all ok
[11:08] <Calinou> (irrelevant to discussion) back to my medion problems -- if I just want to install ubuntu on the whole drive, will the computer still boot? not really caring about warranty or windows...
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> beta4: then run:   gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local    above the 'exit 0' line, add: echo "1" > /sys/class/backlight/apple_backlight/brightness
[11:08] <beta4> I can live with a shell script to set the brightness in the absence of a better way
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: yes, the installer will add grub to the MBR
[11:08] <Calinou> beta4: you can edit /etc/rc.local, yes
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: why would it not boot?
[11:08] <Calinou> ActionParsnip: since this is an UEFI computer should I make an UEFI partition? (i'm going to partition by hand to have separate /home)
[11:08] <beta4> ok, guess I'll do that
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> !uefi
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> !efi
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: i've not used uefi etc
[11:09] <Calinou> the wiki has some info about uefi
[11:09] <beta4> thanks all, finally I'm back with decently fast video drivers, after ~6 months with open ones
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting   may help
[11:10] <jeffroberts> That last Ubuntu update messed up all my stuff. Made everything default settings.
[11:11] <bekks> jeffroberts: Which is quite impossible...
[11:11] <Calinou> ActionParsnip: is it possible to create a GPT partition table on a disk that is currently using msdos partition table?
[11:11] <jeffroberts> bekks, Maybe improbable, because it did.
[11:11] <mohanmcgeek> guys, I need a good text-to-speech reader.
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> mohanmcgeek: gnome-orca
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: not sure, sorry
[11:12] <bekks> jeffroberts: So whats "the last update" and whats "all my stuff"?
[11:12] <Calinou> ok. thanks for answering
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: maybe others can help
[11:13] <jeffroberts> bekks, Startup programs, wallpaper, repositories, docked icons, etc.
[11:13] <jeffroberts> bekks, Even terminal changed the profile colors.
[11:13] <mohanmcgeek> ActionParsnip: No, not a screen reader. but a software that will take a text input and read it out.
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> mohanmcgeek: espeak does that too
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> mohanmcgeek: or try festival
[11:17] <dingdangdong> !log
[11:18] <beta4> bye
[11:18] <Data-Base> hi
[11:21] <dingdangdong> what happened to " http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ " ?
[11:23] <dingdangdong>  can't open http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> dingdangdong: try http://www.irclog.org/network.php?net=freenode
[11:26] <Star_Light> hello is there any room about TCP/IP or Socket Networking? Thank in advance.
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> Star_Light: ##networking
[11:26] <Star_Light> thank you.
[11:28] <Cache_Money> Has anyone received a private message from the user Chaterz?
[11:31] <dingdangdong> ActionParsnip: looking for the logs for #ubuntu-ir :-/
[11:32] <eltigre> hey, I know multimedia isn't exactly ubuntu's strengths, but can somebody help me fix this damn "clicking sound" bug? All the old fixes don't work anymore in 12.10
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> dingdangdong: could always ask in #freenode :)
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: multimedia is flawless here
[11:33] <eltigre> good for you
[11:33] <k1l> eltigre: what is the clickingsound bug?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: tried disabling power saving on your sound module?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: where do you get that multimedia isn't one of ubuntu's strengths?
[11:34] <eltigre> I've got no idea what power saving on my sound module is supposed to mean or how to deactivate it
[11:34] <hadAch> ActionParsnip: Hi du you remember me (wireless keyboard). added the line in the rc.local. the keyboard still has the same behavior
[11:34] <eltigre> when I watch videos on youtube it clicks all the time
[11:34] <eltigre> mplayer no such problem
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: tried:    echo "options snd-hda-intel power_save=0 power_save_controller=N" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: reboot to test#
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> hadAch: then you'll need to try a different module. Are there any bugs reported?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> eltigre: have you tried different browsers?
[11:36] <hadAch> ActionParsnip: whats more strange is that even the onscreen keyboard does not work , and even stranger in the sidebar i can open programs wich are shown there, but not the "Dash Home"
[11:37] <eltigre> hm one version of chrome has the same problem, chromium doesn't ....
[11:37] <hadAch> i think its somehow connected to flash movies in the browser because it only occurs when i am look some flash movie
[11:37] <hadAch> chrome/firefox is the same
[11:37] <smj> I don't have any Internet when chrooting to my Ubuntu
[11:38] <smj> though ifconfig shows there's an IP
[11:38] <Jordan_U> smj: cp /etc/resolv.conf /chroot/etc/resolve.conf
[11:39] <smj> Jordan_U: did that
[11:39] <mohanmcgeek> i've installed espeak and few mbrola voices.. but none are good enough.. Maybe I'm not trying the right source.. Where  can I get good mbrola voices?
[11:39] <smj> no, wait let me try again
[11:40] <hadAch> ActionParsnip: "hadAch: then you'll need to try a different module. Are there any bugs reported?" i dont think so
[11:41] <dingdangdong> ActionParsnip: ah sure, thanks :)
[11:42] <smj> okay it works now
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> hadAch: I suggest you report a bug then
[11:43] <hadAch> for what?
[11:43] <hadAch> for the kernel module?
[11:44] <hadAch> i dont think its a kernel module because i used archlinux for a long time and other linux distrubution and never hab a problem
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> hadAch: then I'd report a bug against udev
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> hadAch: the bug guys will move it if necessary, state that arch ran it ok (and what version of Arch)
[11:47] <hadAch> ok
[11:48] <hadAch> can i look for additional information in some logs
[11:48] <hadAch> or enable additional logging for udev
[11:48] <hadAch> ?
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> hadAch: could run:  dmesg | less     to see what happens as the OS boots
[11:59] <anton77> hello
[12:00] <anton77> how to change user name in terminal?
[12:00] <jrib> anton77: it's easier if you just create a new user with the name you want
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> lots easier
[12:01] <JMS32>  Hello! My videocard working only after @sudo modprobe -v bttv card=177  tuner=-1 autoload=0@ How to make it works after every boot?
[12:01] <anton77> thx ant how to delete first name
[12:01] <anton77> ?
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2228239/Child-4-suffering-cerebral-palsy-given-500-stranger-stricken-chain-Comet-refuses-gift-card-iPad.html
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> oops
[12:01] <jrib> anton77: make sure you give the new user the abilitiy to sudo before you delete the old on
[12:01] <jrib> e
[12:02] <anton77> how to do it
[12:02] <MaximB> any idea when thew newest Nvidia drivers will be officially updated on Ubuntu ?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=821685
[12:02] <jrib> anton77: as your old user, do: sudo adduser NEWUSERNAME sudo
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> http://askubuntu.com/questions/170244/usermod-change-the-username
[12:03] <anton77> create administrator user?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> http://askubuntu.com/questions/34074/how-do-i-change-my-username
[12:03] <JMS32> How to make modprobe on every boot?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> JMS32: add the module name in /etc/modules
[12:03] <anton77> thx i am trying
[12:04] <JMS32> ActionParsnip, and how to put modprobe parameters?
[12:04] <JMS32> ActionParsnip, this module exist. I'm need parameters for it
[12:06] <anton77> it is strange why when i write certain commands it takes alot of time before it executes?
[12:06] <gordonjcp> anton77: depends what the command does
[12:07] <gordonjcp> it probably executes straight away but takes a certain amount of time to complete
[12:07] <gordonjcp> can you pastebin some examples?
[12:07] <gordonjcp> incidentally if you say "time <command>" it will measure how long it takes to do the command
[12:08] <anton77> the example you just wrote
[12:08] <anton77> edit also
[12:09] <anton77> some never execute for example edit /etc/default/locale
[12:10] <iceroot> anton77: because the EDITOR is not set?
[12:10] <anton77> sec i try
[12:11] <anton77> do you mean not installed?
[12:13] <bonhoeffer> how do i figure out my hardware? (ram, processor speed, etc?)
[12:14] <serban> hi
[12:14] <defekt> bonhoeffer: lshw
[12:14] <bonhoeffer> thanks
[12:15] <defekt> and cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:16] <MasterOfDisaster> Hi, I'd like to query another dns server for a certain domain, say .local. I'd like to leave my dns client config intact as much as possible
[12:16] <bonhoeffer> defekt, perfect, exactly what i needed
[12:17] <MasterOfDisaster> can I do this with just resolv.conf, or do I need a full fledged local dns server for that?
[12:17] <defekt> MasterOfDisaster: edit /etc/hosts file
[12:18] <MasterOfDisaster> defekt: the dns server that has the info I want is reachable on my local network, I don't want to keep an /etc/hosts on multiple nodes
[12:19] <defekt> in that case I would suggest running another ns server
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> bonhoeffer: hwinfo
[12:20] <defekt> if you want to keep it centralized
[12:21] <MasterOfDisaster> defekt: thought so, thanks
[12:22] <defekt> nps :)
[12:28] <anton77> how to show all users ?
[12:28] <girlz_baby> helo
[12:32] <thelinux> Anyone here is in Steam beta?
[12:34] <linux|newb> hmm
[12:34] <linux|newb> why might /etc/bashrc be empty?
[12:42] <milenaa> hola
[12:43] <Thepenguin9> Does anyone here mine Bitcoins on Quetzal
[12:45] <muhfiasbin> hallo..
[12:45] <muhfiasbin> is there any particular topic today?
[12:45] <linux|newb> ./topic
[12:46] <muhfiasbin> ./topic
[12:46] <Thepenguin9> without period
[12:48] <noobunlimited>  #selenium
[12:48] <noobunlimited> ups
[12:48] <noobunlimited> sorry
[12:53] <thelinux> ./topic
[12:53] <thelinux> Damn you guys.
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> ?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> thelinux: do you have a support question?
[12:54] <thelinux> ActionParsnip: No, I'm here too to help someone.
[12:56] <thelinux> Anyone is using 13.04 here daily builds?
[12:57] <llutz> !13.04 | thelinux
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> thelinux: I am
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> thelinux: hence I am in +1 ;)
[12:58] <thelinux> ActionParsnip: Nice ;)
[12:58] <gaetano> #geany
[12:59] <gaetano> #blender
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> gaetano: try:   /join #blender
[12:59] <llutz> gaetano: /join #channelname
[13:00] <gaetano> #ubuntustudio
[13:02] <lfiasid> quit
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> lfiasid: prefix with a slash ;)
[13:03] <muhfiasbin> I am using ubuntu 12.04 and after update my ubuntu, I can't tether from my android phone again..
[13:04] <jon__> ncik skpl113
[13:04] <linux|newb> hmm, I'm trying to update PS1 in /etc/bash.bashrc - I update the file and changes save but I don't see a difference in the prompt....
[13:04] <bekks> linux|newb: Because you have to source that file.
[13:04] <bekks> linux|newb: ". /etc/bash.bashrc"
[13:04] <AndroUser-thanig> how a convert a command into service
[13:05] <linux|newb> bekks: cheers
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> AndroUser-thanig: you could mess with rc levels, making a file to start/stop/status it
[13:06] <linux|newb> bekks: done it and it's working but  so I know for future
[13:06] <linux|newb> bekks: ...define 'source' for me pleace
[13:06] <linux|newb> please*
[13:07] <llutz> linux|newb: type " help source" into a terminal
[13:08] <linux|newb> ...ah I see so really, I need to update $HOME/.BASHRC
[13:08] <bekks> linux|newb: No. $HOME/.bashrc
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> linux|newb: watch the case, Linux is very case sensitive
[13:09] <linux|newb> bekks: ActionParsnip: typo on my part - realised. thanks :)
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> ;)
[13:09] <AndroUser-thanig> [18:36] (ActionParsnip)  then how can i stop the command when processing.
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> AndroUser-thanig: here is an example: http://www.dropboxwiki.com/Ubuntu_Startup
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> AndroUser-thanig: drop your customized file into /etc/init.d/    then run: update-rc.d dropbox defaults
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> AndroUser-thanig: obviously change all the stuff to what you want to run and so forth
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> AndroUser-thanig: you can then use the 'service' command like you do the others to start/stop etc the sevrice
[13:13] <AndroUser-thanig> [18:41] (ActionParsnip) thankyou sir.
[13:13] <ThinkT510> !tab | AndroUser-thanig
[13:14] <decci> I need  server monitoring script to get uptime, load & memory and ping check and display with check every 5 mins.  Multiple linux instances with php etc enabled to montior  A good example of what we want: http://status.nodedeploy.com
[13:14] <decci> Any idea if similar open source tool exists
[13:14] <bekks> decci: Yes. It is called "nagios".
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> decci: could use ssh and run one time commands
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> decci: or you could use snmp: http://www.debianadmin.com/linux-snmp-oids-for-cpumemory-and-disk-statistics.html
[13:22] <LiquidDemocracy> I just bought the Logitec Wireless Solar Keyboard k750 but it does not work. No key works. What could I try to get it to work?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: how does it connect to the system?
[13:25] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, What exactly to you mean?
[13:25] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, USB if you mean that.
[13:25] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, more exact USB 2.0
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: yes, exactly that
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: is it charged?
[13:26] <LiquidDemocracy> LiquidDemocracy, yes.
[13:27] <OpenSorce> Anyone from England?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: if you unplug it, then wait a few seconds then shove it back in, does it work?
[13:27] <erich> fkg
[13:28] <erich> ce qualcuno
[13:28] <LiquidDemocracy> LiquidDemocracy, unfortunately not.
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> OpenSorce: I am
[13:28] <OpenSorce> My boyfriend asked for bangers and mash.... did he not mean for breakfast?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> OpenSorce: thats offtopic here
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: are there any bugs reported?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: is there an on/off switch on the keyboard?
[13:29] <OpenSorce> Indeed, my apologies...
[13:29] <linux|newb> exit
[13:29] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, the keyboard is powered on and I did not find any bug reports so far.
[13:29] <linux|newb> oops
[13:30] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, http://askubuntu.com/questions/25877/will-a-logitech-k750-keyboard-work
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: top right corner, there appears to be a switch, is it on?
[13:30] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, yes it it.
[13:31] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, is.
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: oh does it have a USB dongle to make it wireless?
[13:31] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, yes it does have one.
[13:32] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, which is also used by the Logitec mouse, which works perfectly.
[13:32] <OpenSorce> ActionParsnip, of topic though it may be, I won't ask again... a single word answer: Bangers and Mash. Breakfast or not?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: is there a sync button that needs pressing>
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> OpenSorce: its mashed potatoes and sausages.....I'd say not but if you want it then why not :)
[13:33] <OpenSorce> ActionParsnip, dammit.... he'll awake soon. Thanks :-)
[13:34] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, there is no sync button.
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: if you unsync the most, can you sync the keyboard?
[13:34] <LiquidDemocracy> LiquidDemocracy, what does that mean?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: i'd check the chargedness of the keyboard too
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: unlink the mouse, then try the keyboard
[13:35] <LiquidDemocracy> LiquidDemocracy, it is charged, double, tripple checked.
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> LiquidDemocracy: I'd check for bugs then, or report one. Logitech hate Linux and refuse to support it
[13:38] <dalton2345> hello everyone, is there a way to set the priority of a program?
[13:39] <OpenSorce> ActionParsnip, you're right this isn't breakfast at all....
[13:39] <Seveas> dalton2345, yes, with the nice and renice commands
[13:40] <clubberx> Hi, After a fresh install of 12.10 webapps don't appear to be working in chromium only in firefox - is this supposed to be the case?
[13:40] <dalton2345> seveas, i'm looking at changing it before it start
[13:41] <Seveas> dalton2345, you do that by using 'nice $priority $progname'
[13:42] <dalton2345> seveas, i did nice -20 program didnt do a thing
[13:43] <LiquidDemocracy> ActionParsnip, do I have to change anything in the Kubuntu configuration? The wireless keyboard is not the same one I did the upgrade to 12.10 with.
[13:43] <Seveas> dalton2345, looks like cpu scheduling isn't your problem then :)
[13:43] <dalton2345> i can change while it run but not before it starts
[13:45] <DarkSim> Maybe not a real tech question, more a trivial one. To achieve the flashiest and most visually appealing desktop, how do I do this? :)
[13:45] <doomlord> is the geforce gt640 officially broken for compiz (i get a 2d desktop and gl works, but no compiz)
[13:45] <simple_one> my mouse cursor lags  iam using 12.10
[13:45] <war59312> rm: cannot remove `test.mkv': Text file busy
[13:46] <war59312> rm: cannot remove `test.mkv': Text file busy
[13:46] <war59312> any ideas?
[13:46] <Cong> did you try restarting the comp?
[13:46] <unrar> wohai
[13:46] <war59312> fuser shows nothing
[13:46] <war59312> yes restarting does not work
[13:47] <war59312> unmounting does not work either
[13:47] <Cong> text file busy?
[13:47] <war59312> means file is open somewere
[13:47] <clubberx> does anyone know about webapps and chromium in 12.10?
[13:48] <Cong> war59312, use -f
[13:49] <war59312> with ?
[13:49] <war59312> i can copy the file with cp -f but thats it..
[13:49] <llutz> war59312: "sudo lsof |grep test.mkv"
[13:49] <anhday> hi people, do i need acpi-support if i'm not using laptop?
[13:50] <war59312> llutz when I run that I get:
[13:50] <war59312> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfsd-fuse file system /run/user/rob/gvfs
[13:50] <war59312>       Output information may be incomplete.
[13:50] <Cong> so the -f switch in rm is for non-exists files and for it to never prompt
[13:51] <llutz> war59312: file is on cifs-share?
[13:51] <Cong> why is it named force?
[13:51] <war59312> Cong still get Text file busy when using rm -f
[13:52] <war59312> llutz yes, cifs share
[13:53] <Cong> war59312, how big is it?
[13:54] <war59312> llutz its only 4 files that are giving this error.. the other 47 files deleted just fine
[13:54] <war59312> cong it is is 1.1 GB (1,088,289,388 bytes)
[13:55] <Cong> war59312, start killing some program
[13:55] <Cong> -'s
[13:55] <llutz> Cong: nonsense
[13:55] <Cong> it's easy kill -kill <prg>
[13:55] <llutz> war59312: some googling shows it a common smb-problem, no real workaround besides renaming the file and removing it then
[13:55] <war59312> cant rename it either :(
[13:56] <war59312> llutz i killed smb but no luck either
[13:56] <llutz> Cong: what process do you want to kill if you don't even know what process holds it open?
[13:56] <Cong> llutz, try them all
[13:56] <llutz> Cong: nonsense
[13:56] <Cong> llutz, the non-important ones first
[13:57] <auronandace> Cong: don't offer bad advise
[13:57] <war59312> cong im not doign that
[13:57] <rahsputin> Hi
[13:58] <war59312> ok maybe if i can ssh into the drive itself.. its running linx too then maybe it can delete it..
[13:58] <llutz> war59312: are you sure the file isn't in use on the server?
[13:58] <rahsputin> i have a strange nVidia card, so when i try to install Ubuntu, i always get this fuzzied up screen, in other words no X ....
[13:59] <rahsputin> at some point (shutting down) i could read some output ... nouvo something I/O error  .....
[14:00] <war59312> llutz 100% sure.. I just figured it out
[14:00] <rahsputin> i couldn't even change to tty1 ...
[14:00] <war59312> llutz files are gone.. was able to ssh into box and login as root and deleted them
[14:00] <rahsputin> is there a way to pass X a different driver to use ?
[14:00] <war59312> just weird i could not delete them via sudo on server box
[14:01] <llutz> war59312: sounds like cifs-issues, but i don't know. i usually don't have to deal with cifs . glad you solved it
[14:01] <Hemza> Ubuntu 10.04. When I try to reboot an error message  (/boot , /sbin and other not found)How to fix/recovery /boot directory and all related files ?
[14:02] <war59312> llutz is there a better way to mount a share and still have read and write permissions and use NFS with it ?
[14:03] <llutz> war59312: windows-share? idk, sorry, i prefer nfs
[14:04] <war59312> llutz yea I mean nfs on my ubuntu box itself
[14:05] <war59312> llutz the hardware i am accessing btw is this drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148661
[14:05] <llutz> war59312: nfs isn't too hard, you just  should use same usernames/uids on all machines to make it easier
[14:05] <war59312> llutz i am.. and it did NOT work..
[14:06] <war59312> llutz probally has to do with the hacky nature of running linux on the drive.. its more than a hack then anything.. but i do have root access
[14:06] <frakk> Hi. So I've just installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my MacBook Air 4,2 (the 2011 edition). According to the help.ubuntu.com-page, everything (except Thunderbolt) should work out of the box, but I can't get wireless to work. I did the installation without internet connection. I do not have access to wired internet for the next weeks, but there is a wireless network (the same I'm connected to know via OS X). When I try to connect to a wireless network, Ubunt
[14:06] <war59312> llutz and when i say did not work.. i could not get write access no matter what I tried.
[14:06] <llutz> war59312: could be, i never had that problems but all i use are "normal PCs" running debian and some ARM-boards
[14:07] <war59312> llutz no problem.. its all good... been working fine hence this:
[14:07] <war59312> 09:07:09 up 173 days, 11:29,  1 user,  load average: 0.12, 0.12, 0.09
[14:08] <llutz> war59312: 173 days, so no security updates at all? :)
[14:08] <frakk> Is it for example possible to add the broadcom-sta module manually by first downloading it to OS X and then use the memory stick to install it in Ubuntu?
[14:09] <Cong> frakk, possible.
[14:09] <jrib> frakk: sure, you can grab packages from http://packages.ubuntu.com .  But keep in mind you must make sure to grab all the dependencies as well
[14:10] <g0dfrey> "gcc -lnetfilter_queue -c a.c" success and when "gcc -lnetfilter_queue -o a a.o" it will tell that functions in libnetfilter_queue undefinde
[14:10] <g0dfrey> i install libnetfilter-queue-dev and it dependices
[14:10] <g0dfrey> the progam can be compiled but can't be linked
[14:10] <war59312> llutz all security updates installed via http://www.ksplice.com/ :)
[14:10] <g0dfrey> can anyone help ?
[14:11] <Cong> frakk, everything you need is already on teh live disc.
[14:11] <g0dfrey> the problem exists in 12.04 and no problem with 10.04
[14:12] <g0dfrey> can anyone help?
[14:14] <kae_> upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 yesterday. transmission-gtk won't start up now. fails with segmentation fault. what do I do next to find the cause?
[14:14] <frakk> Cong, jrib: ok, it doesn't seem like broadcom-sta have any dependencies (ref. http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/broadcom-sta-common). So I should be able to just download the package and double click on it from Ubuntu 12.04?
[14:14] <k1l> kae_: start it from a terminal and take a look at the output
[14:15] <jrib> kae_: I'd start by clearing out any settings you have and seeing if it persists
[14:15] <frakk> Cong: well, for some reason it doesn't work :/
[14:16] <kae_> k1l, when I start from terminal, it merely says "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[14:16] <g0dfrey>  i install libnetfilter-queue-dev and i can compile my programs but cannot link it ...so what's maybe the problem?
[14:16] <frakk> Cong: and help.ubuntu.com suggest installing the broadcom-sta package, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir4-2#Wireless
[14:16] <jrib> frakk: I'd probably grab broadcom-sta-dkms too
[14:16] <kae_> jrib, not sure how to clear transmission settings without destroying my whole profile
[14:17] <jrib> kae_: create a new user
[14:17] <frakk> jrib: thanks, just noticed that myself :P
[14:17] <gus_>  /ignore -channels #mwsf
[14:18] <frakk> jrib: should I try to mimmick the commands listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir4-2#Wireless ?
[14:19] <frakk> jrib: Seems like I should be able to execute all of them except 'sudo apt-get update'
[14:20] <jrib> frakk: you'll have to use dpkg or gdebi to install the .deb's you download
[14:20] <simple_one> the mouse pointer lags on 12.10 any ideas?
[14:20] <PudgePacket> Hi :) I just installed ubuntu through wubi, but it doesn't recognise my wireless dongle. It came with some windows driver installers but ubuntu can't read the windows .exe files, any ideas ?
[14:21] <Cong> frakk, this is how I did installed it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[14:21] <klync> when I watch videos on youtube they have a blue tint, but I know it's not my monitor, I think it's the codec or sth. anyone see this before? any ideas?
[14:21] <simple_one> PudgePacker: you can open the .exe files via wine
[14:22] <simple_one> klync:try to disable the hardwarre acceleration
[14:23] <simple_one> klync:right-click on the video then settings uncheck the box enable hardware acceleration
[14:23] <PudgePacket> simple_one But ubuntu has no internet connection, so i can't get wine
[14:23] <klync> will do, thanks simple_one
[14:23] <simple_one> PudgePacket:you dont have a cable for the internet?
[14:24] <PudgePacket> simple_one no, i have windows on this computer and i just installed ubuntu onto it, is there any way i can get wine into ubuntu through windows ?
[14:24] <relol> hi
[14:25] <cfhowlett> relol: greetings
[14:25] <relol> i have a problem with Canon MP250 printer
[14:25] <relol> print jobs won't get past processing stage
[14:25] <frakk> Cong: thanks, that seems like a better idea. Plan: 1) download https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/broadcom-sta/<IP_ADDRESS>-4 2) purge bcmwl-kernel-source 3) install broadcom-sta package - does this make sense?
[14:25] <relol> Local printer (USB)
[14:25] <jlangvand> PudgePacket: try to extract the exes with gunzip
[14:26] <jlangvand> PudgePacket: in terminal, type gunzip file.exe
[14:26] <relol> Past versions of Ubuntu 9.10 i had to install drivers from Canon support
[14:26] <PudgePacket> jlangvand does gunzip come with default ubuntu ?
[14:26] <jlangvand> PudgePacket: then use the inf-file with ndiswrapper to install the windows drivers
[14:26] <jlangvand> yes, i think so
[14:26] <relol> but on ubuntu 12 it seems that it i isn't necesary
[14:27] <Cong> frakk, don't know. I keep b43 driver files which I would if anything happened (one day) to the current one in /lib/firmware and that's how I install it.
[14:27] <PudgePacket> ok thanks jlangvand, i'll go try that
[14:28] <relol> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:michael-gruz/canon-trunk
[14:28] <relol> Okay
[14:29] <relol> My laptop cannot recover after Suspension
[14:30] <relol> Keyboard leds flased like Kernel Panic error
[14:31] <relol> But screen didn't display anything
[14:32] <toxa> Good day :) tell me, there is a section in the 36 gigs in NTFS. I want to format this partition and merge with the root. how can I do?
[14:33] <compdoc> toxa, best bet would be to boot gparted, but it can be a dangerous operation
[14:33] <cfhowlett> toxa: boot ubuntu cdrom/usb
[14:39] <toxa> Thank you. gparted helped
[14:48] <frakk> Cong: Hmm, how would you install it from /lib/firmware (the b43 driver files, that is)
[14:48] <lauxley> Hi, i have an apache server that can't access some files ONLY when im not logged in (physically or via ssh), any idea ?
[14:49] <lauxley> could it be because my home folder is encrypted ?
[14:50] <NET||abuse> Hi folks, whats the best way to setup a post upload hook for an sfp-only user?
[14:50] <NET||abuse> i'm hoping i don't have to install additional software beyond opensshd
[14:51] <Yakut> privet
[14:51] <dr_willis> a post upload hook does what?
[14:51] <Yakut> hello
[14:51] <Yakut> I found a bug
[14:51] <Yakut> in Ubuntu 12.10
[14:51] <Yakut> D:
[14:51] <dr_willis> !bug
[14:54] <Yakut> brain xplode
[14:54] <Yakut> D:
[14:54] <Yakut> when I move icons on left bar, my icon have white stripes
[14:54] <Yakut> before upgrading Ubuntu 12.04 > Ubuntu 12.10 all worked nice
[14:56] <Yakut> hello
[14:56] <Yakut> uhhh
[14:56] <Yakut> auuuuuuuuuh
[14:57] <Yakut> russkie est?
[14:59] <Cong> frakk, read this hopefully it will answer all I know https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[14:59] <Yakut> anybody can gelp me?
[15:00] <escott> Yakut, what is the question
[15:00] <shkelzen> hi
[15:00] <shkelzen> I have a question regarding Ubuntu on VmWare
[15:01] <shkelzen> anybody can help?
[15:01] <Yakut> I move icons from left bar
[15:01] <dr_willis> test issues with a newly made user. see if the problem affects every user.
[15:01] <Yakut> and on icon white stripes attack
[15:01] <compdoc> shkelzen, I run it on kvm, so maybe
[15:01] <Yakut> it looks like a bug
[15:01] <Yakut> but I need online help
[15:01] <Yakut> ubuntu 12.10 release
[15:02] <dr_willis> Yakut: sounds rather trivial bug. could be a driver issue. or a user setting issue.
[15:02] <dr_willis> test issues with a newly made user. see if the problem affects every user.
[15:02] <Yakut> dr_willis, I upgraded 12.04 > 12.10
[15:02] <Yakut> it worked nice
[15:03] <dr_willis> its possible some old setting us causeing the issue.
[15:03] <Yakut> rebooting doesnt help
[15:03] <Yakut> wait me
[15:03] <Yakut> I will run google translate
[15:03] <Yakut> :D
[15:03] <dr_willis> make a new user...... see if the problem affects the new user.
[15:03] <Yakut> dr_willis> make a new user...... see if the problem affects the new user.
[15:03] <Yakut> * Jguy<EMAIL_ADDRESS>çàøåë íà êàíàë #ubun
[15:03] <Yakut> to me?
[15:04] <dr_willis> !ru
[15:04] <Jguy> Hello to you too
[15:05] <Yakut> ïîñëå îáíîâëåíèÿ äî 12.10 ñ 12.04 ïîÿâèëèñü ïîëîñêè íà èêîíêàõ, ïðè ïåðåòàñêèâàíèè ñ ëåâîãî áàðà. Äî îáíîâëåíèÿ âñå áûëî çàìå÷àòåëüíî, êàêèå ñîâåòû?
[15:05] <Yakut> Yakut> est kto?
[15:05] <Yakut> * #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel
[15:05] <dr_willis> Yakut: that was totally unreadable to me
[15:05] <Yakut> after upgrading to 12.10 from 12.04 stripes appeared on icons, dragging from the left bar. Before the upgrade everything was fine, what advice?
[15:06] <dr_willis> make a new user...... see if the problem affects the new user.
[15:06] <lauxley> if my home is encrypted, is it gonna be decrypted only if i am logged in ?? or any fs operation with the right permissions would work ???
[15:06] <Yakut> ok
[15:06] <dr_willis> is my advice........ Yakut
[15:07] <escott> lauxley, only when logged in
[15:08] <Yakut> came as a guest. The strips have not disappeared
[15:08] <Yakut> right speaker
[15:09] <Yakut> also on my laptop is not working right speaker
[15:10] <dr_willis> possible driver issue with  the video driver. you may want to check askubuntu.com and the forums search features to see if otherrs have reported the same thing.
[15:10] <dr_willis> testing with  a 12.10 dvd would also be good info
[15:11] <Yakut> dr_willis, who are you?
[15:11]  * dr_willis is me
[15:12] <lauxley> escott: thx
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> bit of a deep question
[15:13] <Bims> hi
[15:13] <dr_willis> bbl.
[15:13] <Bims> just upgraded to 12.10. now i cannot su to root. what can i do?
[15:13] <jrib> !sudo | Bims
[15:13] <Yakut> em
[15:14] <Bims> no, sudo is for single commands
[15:14] <Yakut> can I downgrade Ubuntu to 12.04 without full Ubuntu 12.04 downloading?
[15:14] <Bims> i want a shell as root
[15:14] <Yakut> from 12.10
[15:14] <jrib> Bims: if you bothered to read the information sent to you, you would see you get a shell by doing « sudo -i »
[15:14] <Bims> jrib: and why does su not work any longer?
[15:14] <escott> Bims, sudo -i
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:15] <escott> Bims, su never worked
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: the only way to downgrade to a previous release is a clean install
[15:15] <jrib> Bims: you can only su to root if you've set a root password.  One isn't set by default.  It's also not necessary and not recommended
[15:15] <Bims> ah, okay
[15:15] <Yakut> =(
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> Bims: it does, you just can't su to root
[15:15] <PudgePacket> I'm having a crack at using ndiswrapper to get my wireless usb dongle going, i ran ndiswrapper on the driver files, but it said the driver is invalid, any ideas?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> Bims: if you have 2 users on the system, you can su between without issue
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> Bims: sudo -i    is also good because it uses your user's environment, not root's
[15:19] <PudgePacket> I have ubuntu installd with wubi alongside windows, is there anyway i can tell ubuntu to use my windows drivers for my usb wireless?
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> PudgePacket: if you can find the files, yes
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> PudgePacket: what wifi chip are you using?
[15:22] <Safa_[A_boy]> hi all, I'm trying to open ubutnu tweak but it opens and closes ! what is the problem ?
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: try running it from a terminal
[15:22] <dr_willis> Safa_[A_boy]: run it from a terminal.. look for error messages
[15:22] <Yakut> ïîñëå èíâàëèäíîñòè ñåìåííîãî íàñîñà óåõàâøèé ìàêóøêà êðàñíûé ïëàêàòü çàâòðà áûñòðî íåëåïûé ñìàéëèê ñåðîãî ãîíÿòüñÿ. Ïðè òîðìîæåíèè ÿâíîé ñðûâà íå õîòåëîñü êàòàñòðîôè÷åñêè ñìåÿòüñÿ îò ïîïðûãóí÷èêà ùóêè. ×òî çà áðåêåòû?
[15:23] <Yakut> disability after top seed pump gone red cry tomorrow quickly ironic smiley gray race. When braking apparent catastrophic failure did not want to laugh with skipjack pike. That for braces?
[15:23] <KsM> yes.
[15:23] <PudgePacket> ActionParsnip, it's a usb plug and play sort of thing, a dongle. net8192 if that means anything, all the driver files are installed in windows and i have access to windows from ubuntu
[15:24] <dr_willis> Yakut:  that was unreadable... and seemed to be unrelated to ubuntu
[15:24] <Yakut> just help me
[15:24] <Yakut> plz
[15:24] <Yakut> (
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> PudgePacket: if you run:  lsusb    what is the 8 charcter hex ID for the device?
[15:24] <escott> PudgePacket, you should use the linux drivers (net8192) over any ndiswrapper approach
[15:24] <dr_willis> Yakut: with?
[15:25] <Yakut> with stripes
[15:25] <Yakut> and sounds
[15:25] <Yakut> and sound
[15:25] <Seveas> !ru | Yakut
[15:25] <Safa_[A_boy]> what to type ? :p I've tried (ubuntutweak) and (ubuntu tweak) and they didnt work :(
[15:25] <Yakut> these channel doesnt work
[15:25] <Yakut> I cant tell with them
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: ubuntu-tweak
[15:25] <Seveas> Yakut, set your IRC client to use utf-8 as encoding
[15:25] <dr_willis> you checked the forums and askununtu.com yet  Yakut ?
[15:26] <Yakut> no
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[15:26] <Safa_[A_boy]> output: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[15:26] <dr_willis> you tested with a 12.10 live dvd yet,?
[15:26] <PudgePacket> 0bda:8178 ActionParsnip
[15:26] <Yakut> asd
[15:27] <PudgePacket> escott, linux version is unavailable
[15:27] <Chotaz`x> I have ubuntu 12.10 and just created a NTFS Partition on my second hdd to install win8 in
[15:27] <dr_willis> Safa_[A_boy]: its crashing badly. see if there is a newer versiin
 есть кто?
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> PudgePacket: and what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[15:27] <Yakut> * #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel
 помогите с багом
[15:27] <Yakut> * #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel
 D:
[15:27] <Yakut> * #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel
[15:27] <FloodBot1> Yakut: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[15:28] <Safa_[A_boy]> its the newest !
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> PudgePacket: seems to use the rtl8192cu driver
[15:28] <dr_willis> Safa_[A_boy]: id check the ppa and reinstall it for srarters
[15:28] <Yakut> vlad_starkov, privet
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: can you give the output of the command please
[15:28] <Safa_[A_boy]> precise
[15:28] <PudgePacket> ActionParsnip, quantal
[15:28] <Yakut> mozhesh perevesti burzhuyam moe pozhelanie?)
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: not the newest but I'm not sure if its still around for precise
[15:29] <PudgePacket> Yes ActionParsnip, that name looks correct :)
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> PudgePacket: http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x
[15:29] <Yakut> pizdets nichego neponimayut
[15:29] <Yakut> dlya chego kanal voobshe
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> !en
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> !info ubuntu-tweak precise
[15:29] <bekks> !ru ¦ Yakut
[15:29] <dr_willis> its not in the default repos
[15:29] <bekks> !ru | Yakut
[15:29] <Safa_[A_boy]> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-tweak/0.8.x/0.8.2/+download/ubuntu-tweak_0.8.2-1~precise1_all.deb
[15:29] <killer> hi.......how do i disable alt <left-click> (window move)....as i need it in blender
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: http://ubuntu-tweak.com/   seems to be for 11.10 only
[15:30] <Yakut> I cant speak on ubuntu-ru
[15:30] <Yakut> because I havent permission
[15:30] <Yakut> :(
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> Yakut  what is your language?
[15:30] <escott> !register | Yakut
[15:30] <Yakut> russian and yakut
[15:30] <Yakut> !register Yakut sakhayakutsklala
[15:30] <dr_willis> or they got a ban on you for some reason
[15:31] <Safa_[A_boy]> ActionParsnip, are u sure ?!
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: read the page I gave the linked to
[15:31] <Yakut> ubottu> Yakut: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)" :)
[15:31] <bekks> !register | Yakut
[15:31] <tuxydo> Hi. How do I get Azureus as my default bittorrent client?
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/ubuntu-tweak-gets-full-ubuntu-1210.html   says a ppa for later
[15:32] <Yakut> NickServ- An email containing nickname activation instructions has been sent to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:32] <Yakut> -NickServ- If you do not complete registration within one day, your nickname will expire.
[15:32] <Yakut> -NickServ- Yakut is now registered to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>with the password terminator123.
[15:32] <PudgePacket> Thanks for that ActionParsnip, the guide says to add some sources to your list, but i don't have internet while in ubuntu because that's what i am trying to fix, any ideas?
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> tuxydo: right click a torrent file. select open with, select the app and select to remember the association
[15:32] <Yakut> Yakut> есть КТО?
[15:32] <Yakut> * #ubuntu-ru :Cannot send to channel
[15:32] <FloodBot1> Yakut: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:33] <killer> how do i disbable alt left click window moving
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: is that the PPA you used?
[15:33] <tuxydo> ActionParsnip: thank you.
[15:33] <dr_willis> killer: id check  askubuntu.com   ive seen that asked befor
[15:34] <Yakut> push me
[15:34] <Yakut> and then just fap me
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> killer: its part of XOrg itself, sounds like askubuntu has it according to dr_willis
[15:34] <Pinkamena_D> hi, for some reason my libre office icon appears grey and will not "restore" the window when i click on it
[15:34] <Yakut> masturbation
[15:34] <Yakut> push fappush fappush fap
[15:34] <Yakut> push fappush fappush fap push fap
[15:34] <Pinkamena_D> if i minimize other windows to get to it, the program itself works fine
[15:35] <Pinkamena_D> but clicking the sidebar icon does nothing
[15:35] <gordonjcp> Yakut: inappropriate
[15:35] <Pinkamena_D> as well as alt-tabbing to it, that does nothing aswell
[15:35] <PudgePacket> Thanks for your help so far ActionParsnip
[15:35] <varikonniemi> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso is this a iso file that can be installed to usb with dd?
[15:36] <varikonniemi> i have trouble to get it to boot
[15:36] <Yakut> gordonjcp> Yakut: inappropriate" inapropotori what?
[15:36] <dr_willis> varikonniemi: any  recent release iso can work with dd
[15:37] <varikonniemi> dr_willis, yes. This is not a release you see?
[15:37] <dr_willis> varikonniemi: current is 12.04 or 12.10
[15:38] <Yakut> 12.10 is a release
[15:38] <Yakut> ._.
[15:38] <varikonniemi> yes, but also the mini.iso you say?
[15:38] <Yakut> slowpoke
[15:38] <varikonniemi> should be "hybrid" or what is the term
[15:38] <bekks> !offtopic | Yakut
[15:38] <Yakut> varikonniemi> yes, but also the mini.iso you say?" big.inc
[15:38] <Yakut> bekks" lol
[15:39] <dr_willis> all the isos since 11.04 i think are hrbrid
[15:39] <Yakut> je ne sais pas
[15:39] <Yakut> oh ye o ye
[15:39] <Yakut> ja nie rozumien
[15:39] <Yakut> ne ponime
[15:39] <varikonniemi> are you a dev=
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> varikonniemi: mini iso install kernel, modules, boot loader and a handful of tools
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> varikonniemi: there is a 32bit mini iso and a 64bit mini iso
[15:39] <Yakut> ActionParsnip" help me
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: wassup?
[15:40] <Yakut> ActionParsnip" whatsapp?
[15:40] <Yakut> I have stripes when moving icons
[15:40] <Yakut> but its not critical
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: what video chip are you using?
[15:41] <Yakut> MY RIGHT DYNAMIC DONT SOUND
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: what video chip are you using?
[15:41] <Yakut> GT 540M
[15:41] <Yakut> laptop
[15:41] <dr_willis> right side speaker?
[15:41] <lachlan> this is dardy
[15:41] <k1l> Yakut: can you please troll elswhere? if you want support calm down or leave the channel.
[15:41] <lachlan> SUPOORT ME
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: does it have hybrid graphics?
[15:41] <Yakut> I have a real problem
[15:41] <lachlan> i need suport
[15:42] <lachlan> MEOW
[15:42] <Yakut> yes
[15:42] <FloodBot1> lachlan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:42] <lachlan> MEO
[15:42] <lachlan> WMWEOMWOEM
[15:42] <Yakut> Intel and Nvidia
[15:42] <dr_willis> !ask
[15:42] <Yakut> I have bubmblebeee
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: then you will get problems
[15:42] <Yakut> bumblebee
[15:42] <lachlan> sudo apt-get install fuck_allyou-niggs-0.8.6
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics  is all I know
[15:42] <yeats> !ops | lachlan
[15:42] <Yakut> ActionParsnip" uh
[15:42] <Yakut> youre a captaun obvious
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: if you intend to use Linux based OS it is best (imho) to flat out avoid that mess
[15:43] <Yakut> I installed bubmlbebee
[15:43] <Yakut> Nvidia worjs good
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: I assume nothing
[15:43] <Yakut> but I have stripes and right sound making thing has died
[15:43] <dr_willis> bumble is verymuch a work in progress and not stable.
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: have you tried a different desktop?
[15:43] <Yakut> on 12.04
[15:44] <Yakut> there s didnt yes stripes
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: yes, install xfce4   then log off and log in to the XFCE session, is it ok there?
[15:44] <dr_willis> a clean unstall of 12.10 may work also.
[15:44] <Yakut> I used 12.04 - WERE WAS VERY BEATUIFULL AND STABLE
[15:44] <Yakut> desktop = UI?
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: then why did you fix it?
[15:44] <Yakut> or diffretnet device
[15:44] <yeats> Yakut: I recommend backing up your files and reinstalling 12.04
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: you fixed something that wasn't broken....
[15:45] <Yakut> ActionParsnip" 12.10 is a bugfix?
[15:45] <Yakut> o.o
[15:45] <dr_willis> or testing with a 12.10 live dvd see if it happens there
[15:45] <Yakut> * klmn ушел (Quit: Wychodzi)" polak co tak
[15:45] <bekks> Yakut: 12.10 is a different release.
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: not really, 12.04 is LTS so is designed to be super stable
[15:46] <Yakut> bekks> Yakut: 12.10 is a different release." O_O
[15:46] <Yakut> 12.10 is a beta?
[15:46] <miistx> un saluto
[15:46] <bekks> Yakut: No.
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: no, its just not LTS
[15:46] <Yakut> I know what it isnt LTS
[15:46] <YokoBR> guys, please, i've been trying for 2 days to install my ati driver on ubuntu 12.10, but i can't.... says that the install went ok, but when i reboot, i can't get 3d working
[15:46] <dr_willis> !lts
[15:46] <Yakut> =_=
[15:46] <Yakut> but i have a bug
[15:46] <Yakut> with stripes and sound
[15:47] <Yakut> no LTS doesnt mean bugs
[15:47] <Yakut> of course?
[15:47] <thelinux> ActionParsnip: Not "designed to be super stable" but will over time cause it has support of 5 years. You can even see how 10.04 LTS got stable over years.
[15:47] <headbuster> Hello, can I have some help removing gnome. I think I managed to download a lot of stuff I don't need while trying to change my unity theme.
[15:48] <Safa_[A_boy]> ActionParsnip, nothing new ! still: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> Safa_[A_boy]: then I suggest you contact the PPA maintainers
[15:48] <Yakut> I want prezervativ pongolin
[15:49] <Yakut> or normal GUI with no bug
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> thelinux: yeah Lucid was nice, its dead soon though
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: all software has bugs in some form
[15:49] <Yakut> =(
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: did you try the XFCE desktop?
[15:49] <Yakut> no
[15:50] <varikonniemi> mini.iso is not hybrid, it seems
[15:50] <IdleOne> Yakut: There is no such thing as a "normal GUI with no bugs" why not state the issue you are actually having and find out if someone can help with it.
[15:50] <Yakut> I had Windows 7 aero
[15:50] <Cong> In new years I'll be installing a 12 series (version 12.04). Can I install gnome-panel, enable metacity and disable unity? I need instructions.
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: I suggest you do
[15:50] <Safa_[A_boy]> its strange ! in 12.10 it works, in 12.04 it doesnt :(
[15:50] <Yakut> but it is very  ad
[15:50] <thelinux> ActionParsnip: Unfortunately yes, it's last of its kind, with gnome 2.x.
[15:50] <varikonniemi> so i have no way to install my 12.10 then :( great choices, ubuntu
[15:50] <Yakut> bad
[15:50] <Yakut> and I make ubuntu
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> thelinux: thank god
[15:50] <Yakut> 12.04
[15:50] <Yakut> was nice
[15:50] <FloodBot1> Yakut: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:50] <yeats> !nounity | Cong
[15:50] <Yakut> 12.10 is like a dog shit
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: why do you need to hit ENTER after every other word?
[15:50] <IdleOne> !language | Yakut
[15:51] <Yakut> ActionParsnip, I dont know
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> Yakut: try the other desktop, see how it goes
[15:51] <thelinux> ActionParsnip: Why "thank god"?
[15:51] <varikonniemi> tell me how i am supposed to install to a raid1 setup the 12.10 when i have no cd drive?
[15:51] <headbuster> How can I remove gnome .  I have lot's of unneeded gnome files and I want to use unity.
[15:51] <headbuster> *packages
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> thelinux: because it has painfully old versions of nearly everything, newer hardware works well with the newer kernels and drivers
[15:51] <IdleOne> headbuster: Unity runs on top of gnome3
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> headbuster: you need gnome for Unity
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> well, not strictly but it helps a LOT
[15:52] <thelinux> ActionParsnip: But 10.04 LTS is great for poeple with little bit older hardware, if they like gnome classic.
[15:52] <Forzar> get to a fresh installing..
[15:52] <thelinux> headbuster: Wait, I'll help you.
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> thelinux: then you can use Xubuntu or Lubuntu
[15:53] <headbuster> I see, I installed gnome-*something*-extenstions and it installed alot of sutff. I managed to get my old login screen back but I can see that there is a lot of gnome pakcages that I don't need.
[15:53] <thelinux> ActionParsnip: Some poeple prefer good old experience with gnome 2.x ;)
[15:53] <IdleOne> thelinux: gnome2 is dead.
[15:53] <headbuster> I tried removing gnome-*something*-extensions but it didn't remove the other packages it downloaded.
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> thelinux: XFCE looks and feels a lot like Gnome2
[15:53] <YokoBR> please, could someone help me installing my gpu driver?
[15:54] <thelinux> IdleOne: Not really. Have you heard of MATE?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> headbuster: try:  dpkg -l | grep gnome | awk {'print $2'}
[15:54] <thelinux> YokoBR: What's is the problem buddy?
[15:54] <IdleOne> thelinux: I have. gnome2 is dead
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> headbuster: review the list, if you want rid of them all, we can use it to remove the lot in one command
[15:54] <IdleOne> Now please let's get back to Ubuntu support
[15:54] <thelinux> IdleOne: Open source software is never dead, it still lives through MATE.
[15:54] <YokoBR> thelinux, i'm on ubuntu 12.10, and i've installed the driver but i can't get it working
[15:55] <YokoBR> i mean, it's fglrx on xorg.conf, but no opengl woking
[15:55] <YokoBR> sorry for my bad english
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> thelinux: mate support is quite limited
[15:55] <thelinux> YokoBR: Yeah I had similliar problems with previous versions. Did you use additional drivers tab from software sources to install driver for your gpu?
[15:55] <IdleOne> This channel is not the place to discuss it, please move to #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to continue chatting.
[15:55] <YokoBR> yep
[15:56] <headbuster> ActionParsnip: everything seems to be working, I just don't want to have stuff that I don't need on the system, since I only have 30gb, and I don't know which of those are needed for unity.
[15:56] <YokoBR> thelinux, yep, i've installed by there. And everything goes ok on the installation
[15:56] <thelinux> ActionParsnip: Not really, I've used it, I must say it's really good, pure gnome 2.x experience, but it's still in development ;)
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> thelinux: no, its not supported here, so if you get issues with mate you won't get help here
[15:57] <thelinux> YokoBR: Who is manufacturer of you card? And model of it?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> headbuster: I'd remove the gnome apps then just install Unity, it will install what is needed
[15:57] <YokoBR> i have hybrid hd 4200 and hd 6310
[15:58] <YokoBR> amd ati
[15:58] <thelinux> ActionParsnip: You have Mint community who can help with MATE since it's official DE on Mint 13.
[15:58] <IdleOne> !ot | thelinux ActionParsnip Please stop.
[15:58] <auronandace> thelinux: then go to the mint channel
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: you got it :D
[15:58] <headbuster> ActionParsnip: ok, any idea how to do that? also: http://pastebin.com/J86MjViK
[15:58] <YokoBR> sorry, thelinux, hydrib hd 4200 and hd 6310, amd/ati
[15:59] <Bier__> my hdd from my laptop recently broke, so I am now using ubuntu and it's awesome!
[15:59] <thelinux> IdleOne ubottu auronandace: What? I said Mint community is experienced with MATE. What did I do wrong?
[16:00] <IdleOne> thelinux: You are continuing to be off topic for this channel.
[16:00] <auronandace> thelinux: this is a support channel, not a discussion channel
[16:00] <thelinux> IdleOne auronandace: Sorry sometimes I go off topic without even noticing, sorry about that.
[16:00] <IdleOne> thelinux: in #ubuntu we support Ubuntu. We have many other channels in the ubuntu name space that you are welcome to join and "chat"
[16:01] <bipul> thelinux,  please don't troll here
[16:02] <thelinux> YokoBR: Delete drivers you have installed, and try downloading driver for you GPU from here: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[16:02] <Yakut> Bier__> my hdd from my laptop recently broke, so I am now using ubuntu and it's awesome!" using from CD?
[16:02] <thelinux> bipul: Excuse me?
[16:02] <YokoBR> thelinux, i've already tried that :(
[16:03] <bipul> thelinux, Excuse us , with you mint talk about ubuntu
[16:03] <IdleOne> bipul: thelinux does not appear to be trolling, they just may not have been aware of the channel policy
[16:03] <zykotick9> thelinux: using drivers from outside of ubuntu repos is... not the greatest suggestion.   But he installed from additional drivers, it doesn't work for him.
[16:04] <Cong> So I just install gnome-panel, select it from the sessions in the login screen and that's it. I have disabled unity?
[16:04] <Yakut> bipul" U are trolling what you name other people trolling
[16:04] <Yakut> you are slim troll
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> Cong: yes, unity doesn't load
[16:04] <IdleOne> stop!
[16:05] <auronandace> hammer time
[16:05] <thelinux> YokoBR: I had issue with NVIDIA drivers myself in some pass releases, you can only blame bad support of NVIDIA and ATI  for drivers. But have you tried using older versions of that driver buddy?
[16:06] <Yakut> I have a problem wit launching Ageof Empires 3 on wine
[16:06] <Yakut> can you help me?
[16:06] <IdleOne> Yakut: ##winehq can
[16:06] <thelinux> Bier__: You mentioned your laptop broke? Do you need help with something buddy?
[16:06] <auronandace> !appdb | Yakut
[16:06] <urist_> For the first time I purchased an AMD video card, only to find out it doesn't work very well with Ubuntu. it's so disappointing. I won't be buying AMD again after this one
[16:07] <Yakut> IdleOne fanx bro
[16:07] <Yakut> youre awesome
[16:07] <boris-semat> Greetings. I was wondering if anyone could offer some advice about ripping my dvd collection. I have ripped 3 different dvds using Handbrake. I have three files now that are 6-8 GB and they are m4v. I can't find a media player that will open and play them. I tried changing one of the files to a mp4 but I still didn't get any results. I have used VLC and Miro. I have Ubuntu 3rd party installed. Thank you
[16:07] <thelinux> urist_: Yeah, ATI had ussually bad support for Linux drivers. Try older versions of that driver.
[16:07] <YokoBR> thelinux, ive tryied the ati.com legacy, but didn't worked also
[16:08] <InspectorCluseau> I had an ATI card years ago that crapped and took out the MB ... never again
[16:08] <dr_willis> boris-semat:  vlc can play them rere i rev
[16:09] <boris-semat> dr_willis: I tried VLC but it wouldn't play them. I uninstalled and reinstalled and still it would not play
[16:09] <dr_willis> boris-semat:  you can reencode them with other tools if you want different formats
[16:10] <varikonniemi> how does ubuntu and lubuntu differ on a practical level?
[16:10] <Yakut> lubuntu is for lower end PC
[16:10] <varikonniemi> can i make a lubuntu into ubuntu by repointing the repos etc?
[16:10] <dr_willis> boris-semat:  uninstalling/reinstalling is a 'windows mindset'     run vlc from a terminal play the file.. look for error messages
[16:10] <Yakut> on lubuntu is KDE
[16:10] <zykotick9> varikonniemi: what desktop-environment they use by default - that's it...
[16:11] <dr_willis> varikonniemi:  just install ubuntu-desktop package
[16:11] <mneptok> varikonniemi: your question is so broad in scale it would malke any answer pretty useless.
[16:11] <auronandace> varikonniemi: they already use the same repos
[16:11] <varikonniemi> as i see  lubuntu 12.10 is available, so it would be my best choice to get 12.10
[16:11] <Yakut> but ubuntu is better
[16:11] <boris-semat> dr_willis:  You caught me :) I am a recent convert to the world of Linux
[16:11] <thelinux> InspectorCluseau: Yeah I almost bought an ATI video card when my NVIDIA graphics card broke. Good thing I choosed NVIDIA again, since I wasn't aware at that time of bad support for ATI linux drivers.
[16:11] <mneptok> Yakut: Lubuntu uses LXDR. not KDE.
[16:11] <mneptok> *LXDE
[16:11] <Yakut> mneptok, thanks cap
[16:11] <dr_willis> boris-semat: there are other dvd ripper apps in the repos.
[16:11] <thelinux> Yakut: LXDE
[16:11] <Yakut> I knew it
[16:11] <Yakut> but I joke with KDE
[16:11] <Yakut> :D
[16:11] <thelinux> Yakut: Sorry ;)
[16:12] <boris-semat> dr_willis:  what commands do I use to run it from the terminal?
[16:12] <mneptok> Yakut: avoid jokes when people need support.
[16:12] <dr_willis> boris-semat:  'vlc'
[16:12] <Yakut> mneptok, am sorry but its very funny
[16:12] <Yakut> to joke
[16:12] <mneptok> Yakut: don't do it. full stop.
[16:13] <Yakut> these channel is very monotonus
[16:13] <Bier__> theLinux: not really, I was just showing appreciation. my only problem right now is that the screen that i hooked up to my laptop is slightly blurry, even though it's in it's native resolution
[16:13] <Bier__> im installing updates for ubuntu first though
[16:13] <Yakut> I want to make this channel more colorful
[16:13] <mneptok> Yakut: keep up the offtopic banter and joking and i promise i will make things more interesting for you.
[16:13] <k1l> Yakut: your behavior is called trolling. so stop that now!
[16:13] <thelinux> Bier__: Is there option on your screen, a button to adjust resolution? That could fix it.
[16:13] <dr_willis> Yakut:  thats for #ubuntu-offtopic chat and color
[16:13] <boris-semat> dr_willis:  here is the results from the terminal: [0xb230dc70] mp4 demux error: MP4 plugin discarded (no moov,foov,moof box)
[16:13] <boris-semat> [mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2 @ 0xb2317700] moov atom not found
[16:13] <boris-semat> [0xb230dc70] avformat demux error: Could not open : Unknown error<PHONE_NUMBER>
[16:13] <boris-semat> [mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2 @ 0xb540c2a0] moov atom not found
[16:14] <Bier__> there is, let me try
[16:14] <auronandace> Yakut: this is a support channel, making jokes like that is like spreading misinformation, not fair to newcommers
[16:14] <Yakut> mneptok> Yakut: keep up the offtopic banter and joking and i promise i will make things more interesting for you." tell me how I can enjoy without stripes on icon at dash
[16:15] <mneptok> Yakut: i do not use Ubuntu, so i do not have a Dash.
[16:15] <Bier__> theLinux: the auto button worked! :D
[16:15] <dr_willis> boris-semat:  i would try reencoding with a diffeerent app, and try a different riper tool.
[16:15] <Bier__> sharp as a nail
[16:15] <Yakut> i will make things more interesting for you." okay..
[16:15] <Yakut> )
[16:15] <boris-semat> dr_willis:  ok...i'll give that a shot. Thanks!
[16:16] <thelinux> Bier__: Awesome ;)
[16:16] <dr_willis> boris-semat:  ive also seen protected dvds that dont playback or have issues on pcs  and older players. ;(
[16:16] <mneptok> Yakut: that was your last offtopic comment.
[16:16] <mneptok> !ot
[16:17] <boris-semat> dr_willis:  I thought that it could be something like that. I started with 4 dvds and one wouldn't even rip. It stopped after 2 seconds and said it was complete. The others had no problems but won't play after they finish
[16:18] <dr_willis> boris-semat:  i ended up using dvdfab in wine with the problrm ones i had. even then some wouldent rip.
[16:19] <boris-semat> dr_willis:  is it illegal to get them from torrents if you own the dvd?
[16:19] <Yakut> tell me please good channel where I can speak with people
[16:19] <Yakut> ^)^
[16:19] <Yakut> ^_^
[16:20] <dr_willis> boris-semat:  who knows.. .. ive seen it argued both ways.
[16:20] <Random832> it depends on the country. I know it's illegal in the US, though.
[16:20] <chucktewks> any folks on that know where drupal would be installed by default?  is there an easy way to know this with an "apt" command of some kind :)
[16:20] <Defuera> hey guys, I just updated to 12.10 and date/time dissapeared from menu bar it's not even in the settings anymore... Couldn't google anything abiut it, any idea?
[16:20] <thelinux> boris-semat: Yes.
[16:21] <dr_willis> my copy of 'titanic' came with a free ditigal download.. that would only work if i used itunes.....
[16:21] <mneptok> !ot | Yakut
[16:21] <boris-semat> dr_willis:  so what's the best software to use to do this then? I tried handbrake and none of my dvds play.
[16:22] <Yakut> !ot | dr_willis
[16:22] <k1l> cmon. when will an op ban him. he is obviously trolling since hours. :(
[16:23] <dr_willis> i think handbreak works.. but i belive its  living ooon its past glory and reputation. i tend to just use k9copy or i think ogmrip  theres othere out also. or dvdfab in wine.
[16:23] <dr_willis> i dont rip a lot of stuff
[16:23] <mneptok> k1l: do try to keep up, dear.
[16:23] <boris-semat> dr_willis:  ok... I will give some others a shot. Thanks for your help!
[16:24] <dr_willis> what i do rip is tv series i bought. so  some tools do that task better then others
[16:24] <NET||abuse> arrg, ec2 is doing my head in,, adduser myuser tothisgroup    doesn't work
[16:24] <NET||abuse> useradd -G groupname usertoadd says the user already exists..
[16:24] <NET||abuse> how do you add the existing user to another group?
[16:24] <NET||abuse> debian/ubuntu is just useradd username togroup as far as i remember
[16:25] <boris-semat> dr_willis:  my hope is to have a entertainment server using xbmc and mythbuntu so i can record live tv and have all of my dvds, music and photos on my tv
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> NET||abuse: sudo usermod -a -G groupname username
[16:25] <NET||abuse> ahhh jeebus.
[16:25] <NET||abuse> thank you :)
[16:25] <NET||abuse> google results just didn't give that to me.
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> NET||abuse: thats how I do it, works across the board :)
[16:25] <Bier__> is it possible to install windows games on ubuntu?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> NET||abuse: man pages ;)
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Bier__: in wine, maybe
[16:25] <dr_willis> NET||abuse:  see a variant on this question about 3 times a week in here
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> Bier__: some apps have native installers too
[16:26] <k1l> Bier__: yes, take alook into wine and the wine appdb
[16:26] <t4b> Why is there a >10GB big ".xsession-errors" file in my home-directory? Shouldn't that automatically be cleaned out now and again? Can I do something to get it to keep that file under a few hundred megabytes or so?
[16:26] <zykotick9> NET||abuse: careful with usermod!  that -a is SUPER important!
[16:26] <savio> Bier__, use wine with playonlinux
[16:26] <NET||abuse> ActionParsnip: had to know about usermod to even find the man page though :)
[16:26] <Bier__> ok i will
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> NET||abuse: true
[16:26] <escott> t4b, no... nothing would clean it out
[16:26] <jrib> t4b: you should see what's in it :)
[16:26] <Bier__> i'd like to install hitman blood money
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> t4b: read the files, you are having issues in your x server
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> Bier__: check the appdb
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Bier__: it shows the apps that work and don't work and how to make them work etc
[16:27] <k1l> Bier__: take a look into the appdb to see if the game runs with wine and what exactly will or wont work
[16:27] <auronandace> !appdb | Bier__
[16:27] <Bier__> thank you
[16:28] <NET||abuse> exit
[16:28] <savio> Bier__, there is great app on ubuntu software center "playonlinux" it just great it automates the installation of many steps like winetricks
[16:29] <Osmodivs> Hello, is there an alternative for UnetBooting? I would use Unetbooting, but everytime I try to open it, my PC will log out.
[16:29] <dr_willis> Osmodivs:  the pendrivelinux site has dozens of alternatives
[16:30] <t4b> jrib, ActionParsnip: I looked into the file, it seems to mostly consist of errors thrown by nautilus and totem and other random errors thrown by programs I launched. It's not even all errors, there is also stuff which is labeled "info" or "warning". I don't find anything which is common about the stuff n there.
[16:30] <dr_willis> lot out = back to the login screen?  thats 'X crashing' not logging out...   ;)
[16:30] <auronandace> Osmodivs: you can also dd a ubuntu iso
[16:30] <t4b> *in
[16:31] <Kinder-Pingvi> привет.. проблема с флешплеером
[16:31] <jrib> t4b: put the last thousand or so lines in a pastebin?
[16:31] <Random832> !en | Kinder-Pingvi
[16:31] <t4b> jrib, okay
[16:31] <Osmodivs> dr_willis: Well, X is crashing a lot these past days
[16:31] <auronandace> !ru | Kinder-Pingvi
[16:31] <Kinder-Pingvi> thanks)
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: 1 2 3 app from pendrive linux
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: usb-creator in Ubuntu
[16:33] <Bier__> hm ubuntu update failed
[16:33] <fellayaboy> hey how can u resume a download instead of starting all over again using sftp terminal
[16:33] <fay> do you know why
[16:34] <Bier__> operation failed
[16:34] <Bier__> i will try again
[16:34] <lix> Bier__: run "sudo do-release-update" in terminal
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> Bier__: upgrade of the same release, or are you trying to get to the next release
[16:35] <Bier__> just updating
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | Bier__
[16:35] <zykotick9> Bier__: fyi lix's comment is to go to a new release of ubuntu, not just a system update
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> lix: do-release-upgrade not needed dude...
[16:36] <Bier__> ah
[16:36] <escott> fellayaboy, you cant
[16:36] <Bier__> update not necessary?
[16:36] <fay> fellayaboy: use something like rsync next time
[16:36] <FireStorms> Hi, I'm wondering if anyone has installed a HP printer before. I'm trying to install a HP DESKJET 2050A on Ubuntu 10.04. I'm using the CUPS Web Interface to manually select my printer to install, as the device is not being recognised automatically. The closest printer CUPS lists to my DESKJET 2050A is the DESKJET 2000. I tried the option but it didn't work. What can I do?
[16:36] <lix> ActionParsnip: sorry. - must have misread Bier's issue...
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> lix: ;)
[16:37] <fellayaboy> wow ok..so what if i use sftp at the beginning will rsync pick up where sftp left off or do i have to use rsync from the beginning when transfering a file
[16:37] <fay> fellayaboy: rsync from the beginning
[16:37] <escott> fellayaboy, yes
[16:37] <fellayaboy> ohh well bye bye sftp its been a long journey
[16:37] <ghostconn> my hdmi audio is not working any help?
[16:37] <escott> fellayaboy, if you have a partial file rsync can work from that
[16:37] <t4b> jrib, here: https://gist.github.com/ddfe5da4e3dd38b12374
[16:38] <fellayaboy> by partial file u mean a file thats imcomplete?
[16:38] <escott> fellayaboy, yes
[16:38] <baldfat> I am trying out Ubuntu from arch linux for kicks. WHERE the heck do I change the Xresources and Xdefaults? Do I have to create them manually and then change what for them to be read?
[16:38] <fellayaboy> ok
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> FireStorms: is it a desktop OS?
[16:38] <fellayaboy> thats good then thank u
[16:38] <FireStorms> ActionParsnip, yes
[16:39] <ghostconn> has anyone got their hdmi audio working with a sapphire hd 7770?
[16:39] <jrib> t4b: Coin error in SoNode::GLRenderS(): GL error: 'GL_INVALID_OPERATION', nodetype: Separator (set envvar COIN_GLERROR_DEBUGGING=1 and re-run to get more information)
[16:39] <jrib> t4b: what's that about?
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> FireStorms: Lucid desktop has little over 6 months support left. Is it worth it?
[16:40] <t4b> jrib, haven't got a clue, I think it's probably a game I run which threw that one each render cycle or something like that.
[16:40] <Xix19> help, I restarted my virtualbox, and now when I start it up it loads up until the login page but doesn't show any login options and I can't do anything
[16:40] <jrib> t4b: ok well you can just delete ~/.xsession-errors if there's nothing obviously wrong
[16:40] <Xix19> the mouse moves ok but all I see is the login background
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> Xix19: tried the boot option:  nomodeset
[16:41] <Xix19> ActionParsnip: how do I try it?
[16:41] <zykotick9> baldfat: re .Xdefaults, i have to use ~/.Xdefaults-YOURHOSTNAMEHERE to get it to work myself.  best of luck.
[16:42] <baldfat> zykotick9: thnaks
[16:42] <baldfat> zykotick9: that looks back@zzwards
[16:43] <t4b> jrib, just did so, I guess I'll see if it starts growing to those sizes again
[16:43] <ghostconn> my hdmi audio is not working when i run aplay -l i get this ard 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC889 Analog [ALC889 Analog]
[16:43] <ghostconn>   Subdevices: 1/1
[16:43] <ghostconn>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[16:43] <ghostconn> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 3: ALC889 Digital [ALC889 Digital]
[16:43] <ghostconn>   Subdevices: 1/1
[16:43] <FloodBot1> ghostconn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:43] <ghostconn>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[16:44] <jrib> t4b: yeah, you probably have one app that just constantly throws out one of those messages.  google suggests maybe "freecad".  Do you use that?
[16:44] <zykotick9> baldfat: i've actually asked about why the hostname was required - i was told to check the man page ;) sure enough, it's documented.  IMO it's a huge pain, 'cause you can't just transfer the file to new installs, must rename with box's hostname attached to the file :(
[16:45] <Osmodivs> Is there a way to "merge" 2 partitions in an USB memory stick? I need all the memory available, but currently it is divided in 2 partitions. I have GParted, but do not know how to use it.
[16:46] <jrib> zykotick9, baldfat: can't you use ~/.Xresources ?
[16:46] <escott> Osmodivs, move the data off. delete one paritition. grow the other. move the data back
[16:46] <zykotick9> baldfat: see jrib's comment above.  i don't seem to use .Xresources (ie. not one on my install right now, so can't confirm)
[16:47] <FireStorms> ActionParsnip, I see no reason to upgrade
[16:48] <Osmodivs> escott: That was easy, thx.
[16:48] <PhoenixSTF> i cant get my Ubuntu to work with my backlight keys one eeepc 1101HA, it is not changing the /sys/class/backlight/psb-lb/brightness, it's using the acpi/brightness instead, any workaround?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> FireStorms: could try upgrading hplip using the run file from the hplip site
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> FireStorms: the newer versions of packages and such may make the printer just work
[16:49] <savio> anyone can help me with bugsqud i don't know what to do ?
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: let me search
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: try the boot option: poulsbo.blacklist=yes
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/asus_eee_pc_1101   source
[16:51] <ghostconn> dose anyone know how to update catalyst control center
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: actually scratch that, add: acpi_backlight=vendor
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> ghostconn: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:51] <saxin> How can I find out information about the memory installed in a computer? Like how much ram, the speed of the ram etc.
[16:52] <escott> saxin, dmidecode
[16:52] <zykotick9> saxin: "cat /proc/meminfo"
[16:52] <ghostconn> ActionParsnip : I have already done those commands.. I have a ati hd7770 my hdmi audio shows up under sound setting/output but i get no sound??
[16:52] <Nahjil> Anyone have an issue after installing, everything seems to go well and then after you enter your password your screen goes wonky with weird artifacts?
[16:52] <zykotick9> saxin: that's some of what you wanted.  for speed you'll probably need hwinfo (not a program i know)
[16:53] <chucktewks> linux noob question --- if i want to install a CMS like Plone - what directory should it go under?  /usr/local?
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> ghostconn: if you run: alsamixer   are all levels maxed and unmuted? If you press F6 in alsamxer  is the right output device set?
[16:53] <jrib> baldfat: from « man Xsession »: Note that $HOME/.Xdefaults is a relic from X Version 10 (and X11R1) days, before app-defaults files were implemented.  It has been deprecated for over ten years at the time of this writing.  .Xresources should be used instead.
[16:53] <zykotick9> chucktewks: IMO you should leave all of /usr to the system, my vote is to use /opt
[16:54] <fellayaboy> i have a question though...why is it that gui clients like firefox fireftp or filezilla have a resume but terminal based sftp doesnt
[16:55] <jrib> fellayaboy: it doesn't?
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> fellayaboy: because they have coded it into the app.
[16:55] <zykotick9> chucktewks: i'm very conservative (old school unix) in my admin style.  see "man hier" for more official source of info ;)
[16:55] <escott> chucktewks, the way i have always done it is: if it installs to a monolithic folder then put it under /opt/PROGRAM_NAME. if it has a unix like layout (with /usr/bin and /usr/lib) then put it in /usr/local
[16:55] <Forzar> yeah one based on GUI  ,and the other based terminal..
[16:56] <PhoenixSTF> ActionParsnip, actualy I tried all types of conbinations with these options acpi_osi=Linux (because i am having a bit of batery detection issue) acpi_backlight=vendor, poulsbo.blacklist=yes, eeepc.blacklist=yes
[16:56] <fellayaboy> so i guess all one has to do is modify the source code for sftp terminal
[16:56] <jrib> chucktewks: I follow escott's approach too
[16:56] <chucktewks> thanks all
[16:57] <ghostconn> Actionparsnip : i followed your command and have set the default sound to my hdmi via alsamixer noting is muted but still no sound yes my tv volume is up
[16:57] <PhoenixSTF> ActionParsnip, all that acpi_backlight=vendor gets me is the recognition that I use the fn+f5/f6 keys, but it is always the psb-bl/brightness file that rules over the backlight, and the keys wont work on that file, they always work on the other one
[16:59] <chucktewks> is it common for a program to put itself under /usr/share?  (e.g. drupal)
[16:59] <green91> no
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> ghostconn: if you run the 'sound' app in dash, is the right device set for output there?
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: all I can suggest is report a bug. Do you have the latest BIOS?
[17:00] <ghostconn> ActionParsnip: yes
[17:01] <ghostconn> :(
[17:01] <PhoenixSTF> ActionParsnip, yes, bug was reported since 11.04 or 11.10
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: gah
[17:02] <escott> chucktewks, if you dont configure otherwise look at ./configure --prefix and also use checkinstall
[17:02] <ghostconn> should i maybe restart my pc after changing the default sound card through alsamixer?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> ghostconn: worth a shot
[17:11] <ghostconn> sounds settings are set to hdmi out, volume is up on both tv and system, alsamixer set to HDA ATI Sb Realtek ALC889 nothing muted ( i turned off auto mute) STILL NO SOUND what could it be
[17:14] <ghostconn> ActionParsnip : do you think it would be wise to install the post release update ati driver if I already have a working fglrx driver installed
[17:15] <cryptodira> i have just upgraded to 11.10 and my fan is running constantly at full speed.... toshiba notebook amd components... in ALL of the previous versions  this has not happened.... solution?
[17:16] <thelinux> cryptodira: Install Ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10.
[17:16] <zatan>  Hey can anyone advised me how can I fix this issue with maximize window? http://i.imgur.com/fiBT5.png  the bottom window is not maximised as he suppost to
[17:16] <cryptodira> thelinux; i suspected as much... thanks.
[17:17] <compdoc> in 12.04.1, the PATH for my username doesnt include any of the sbin directories, so I cant run things like ifconfig without using sudo. possible to fix?
[17:18] <jrib> compdoc: umm, what's in your /etc/environment?
[17:19] <thelinux> zatan: How do you mean?
[17:19] <thelinux> zatan: I wasn't able to reproduce that bug.
[17:20] <compdoc> jrib, the proper path is there. the one sudo uses
[17:20] <compdoc> but my path is less
[17:20] <jrib> compdoc: grep PATH ~/.profile ~/.*bash* ~/.pam*
[17:20] <ghostconn> is there a command to upgrade to 12:10?
[17:21] <jrib> !upgrade | ghostconn
[17:21] <jrib> ghostconn: also '.' is used, not ':' :)
[17:21] <thelinux> ghostconn: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.
[17:22] <jrib> thelinux, ghostconn: that will *not* upgrade between releases
[17:22] <ghostconn> thank you :) .... and what do you mean it wont upgrade?
[17:23] <jrib> ghostconn: what's not clear? apt-get dist-upgrade is not the command you want.  See ubottu
[17:23] <Summun> talking about that... when would you recommend an update to 12.10 or stay in the LTS version?
[17:23] <compdoc> jrib, http://pastebin.com/E7UW3Z4d
[17:23] <thelinux> ghostconn: Or go to software sources, updates, check notify of new updates.  Go to update manager it should offer you download of Ubuntu.
[17:23] <jrib> compdoc: what is your PATH?  echo $PATH
[17:24] <dr_willis> Summun: depends on your needs
[17:24] <thelinux> ghostconn: You're using Ubuntu 12.04?
[17:24] <ghostconn> yes i am
[17:24] <compdoc> its:  /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
[17:24] <Bier__> can anyone help me install a snes emulator for ubuntu?  the one from the Ubuntu Software Center, NES ROM player does not work for me, crashes instantly after i click a rom
[17:24] <jrib> compdoc: how did you login?
[17:24] <dr_willis> Summun: i like playing with the latest stuff.. for a business i would stick to lts
[17:25] <ghostconn> jrib sorry i understand now i thought you were saying that by doing so it would not upgrade lol
[17:25] <compdoc> remotely to vncserver
[17:25] <compdoc> jrib  ^
[17:25] <thelinux> Bier__: I might help you, I've used emulators.
[17:25] <Summun> dr_willis, what about if i use it to work in the university, as a student, lts?
[17:25] <Bier__> i see one named Zsnes, but it displays not found
[17:25] <dr_willis> Bier__: run it from a terminal. look for errors when it crashes
[17:26] <dr_willis> zsnes at one time was 32 bit only... not sure if thats still the case
[17:26] <jrib> compdoc: does the same thing happen if you use ssh?
[17:26] <dr_willis> !info zsned
[17:26] <dr_willis> !info zsnes
[17:26] <thelinux> Bier__: Look online for Zsnes emulator. And I'm not sure if even NES ROM would work, since I think it's meant for NES games not SNES.
[17:27] <Cong> zsnes is the best emu ever.
[17:27] <compdoc> jrib, hmm, the path is correct with ssh
[17:27] <dr_willis> zsnes is super nes.
[17:27] <thelinux> Bier__: sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install zsnes
[17:28] <jrib> compdoc: hmm, which vnc server is this?
[17:28] <Bier__> i get zsnes has no installation candidate
[17:28] <compdoc> vnc4server
[17:29] <thelinux> Bier__: http://www.zsnes.com/
[17:29] <Bier__> yeah i have downloaded the tar file
[17:29] <dr_willis> Bier__: you on 12.10?
[17:29] <Bier__> yes
[17:29] <dr_willis> weird.
[17:30] <Bier__> i have extracted the package but how do i launch it
[17:30] <zykotick9> Bier__: what is the output from "uname -m" on your system?
[17:30] <thelinux> Bier__: You need to compile it.
[17:31] <Bier__> x86_64
[17:31] <thelinux> Bier__: You sure there isn't zsnes in repositories, since I typed sudo apt-get install zsnes, it showed right away.
[17:31] <dr_willis> zsnes installed fine here....
[17:31] <dr_willis> Bier__: use the terminal. cd to the dir.     ./zsnes   perhaps
[17:31] <Bier__> when i look in software center it shows up
[17:32] <Bier__> but when i click on it it says
[17:32] <zykotick9> dr_willis: i'm guessing zsnes is failing to install for Bier__ due to the 32/64bit thing.
[17:32] <dr_willis> 12.10 64 bit .. zsnes installed via apt-get
[17:32] <Bier__> "there isnt a software package called zsnes in your current software sources:
[17:32] <zykotick9> dr_willis: guess it's something else then ;)
[17:32] <thelinux> Bier__ dr_willis: I have 32 bit, and it can install here too.
[17:32] <dr_willis> !info zsnes
[17:32] <Bier__> so i go to edit > software sources and check all
[17:33] <dr_willis> universe repo not enabled?
[17:33] <Bier__> i dont follow
[17:33] <jrib> compdoc: I'm not familiar with vnc4server, have you done any special configuration for it?
[17:33] <compdoc> no, but this gives me a clue now - thanks
[17:33] <doomlord> can ubuntu do ARGB transparency for gtk elements
[17:33] <dr_willis> be sure  thh universe reposity is enabled   Bier__
[17:33] <thelinux> Bier__: Go to software sources, Ubuntu software tab, and check all there.
[17:34] <CaBa> hi
[17:34] <Bier__> i have theLinux
[17:34] <jrib> compdoc: ok good luck.  You can always work around it of course by using ~/.profile.  But if you want to get to the bottom of the issue, I guess you have to investigate more
[17:34] <thelinux> Bier__: Change "download from" to different server.
[17:34] <XiaYixuan> hi
[17:34] <doomlord> q2 does ubuntu officially not support NVidia GT640 (i got some later drivers, i get multiple screens, compiz fails, but gl apps work)
[17:34] <compdoc> jrib, I can just add a path in ~/.profile?
[17:35] <dr_willis> Bier__: sudo apt-get update  and try again to install it.
[17:35] <systemclient> say I installed the beta of 12.10 and installed all upgrades. Do I now have the regular stable version?
[17:35] <dr_willis> systemclient: yes
[17:35] <zykotick9> !final | systemclient
[17:35] <thelinux> systemclient: If upgrade was sucessfull, you should than.
[17:36] <systemclient> dr_willis: zykotick9 thelinux thanks!
[17:36] <yote> in terminal how do I check to see what is my current desktop environment
[17:37] <thelinux> Bier__: Did you change the server from software sources and tried to download it? Please post results here.
[17:37] <Bier__> yes theLinux, im trying the update now
[17:37] <dr_willis> cat      .dmrc        perhaps yote
[17:37] <dr_willis> but theres no gurantees
[17:38] <yote> thanks
[17:38] <thelinux> yote: ls -l /usr/share/xsessions/
[17:38] <Bier__> sill not found
[17:39] <Bier__> Package zsnes is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[17:39] <Bier__> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[17:39] <Bier__> is only available from another source
[17:39] <Bier__> E: Package 'zsnes' has no installation candidate
[17:39] <Bier__> in terminal
[17:39] <Bier__> and in software center:
[17:39] <Bier__> There isn’t a software package called “zsnes” in your current software sources.
[17:40] <Jim_> I have a boot problem with Ubuntu. I have a laptop HP Pavilion G7 with a AMD APU A8 4500m. Ican't boot from CD and can't install ubuntu. What can I do?
[17:40] <McPeter> hi
[17:40] <systemclient> Jim_: did you set it in the BIOS to boot from CD?
[17:40] <yote> thanks thelinux
[17:40] <yote> itworked
[17:40] <McPeter> how change language in webalizer please ?
[17:40] <ghostconn> i tried using the command     sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ....... to upgrade my version from 12.04 to 12.10 and 0ugrades available
[17:40] <Jim_> Yes I can boot from cd. After I got the cd menu it's stop working
[17:41] <XiaYixuan> is kubuntu ubuntu?
[17:41] <systemclient> Jim_: you mean the bootloader where you can select the various boot options and language?
[17:41] <systemclient> XiaYixuan: yes, but with KDE instead of Unity
[17:41] <XiaYixuan> kk
[17:41] <systemclient> XiaYixuan: try #kubuntu as well
[17:41] <Bier__> so how do i use the zsnes tar package i downloaded
[17:41] <McPeter> i install it on ubuntu server 12.04 … : Webalizer V2.01-10 (Linux 3.2.0-32-generic) locale: fr_FR.UTF-8
[17:41] <McPeter> but it's not in fr :\
[17:41] <Jim_> yes that bootloader
[17:41] <systemclient> Jim_: hmm … that is strange
[17:41] <XiaYixuan> ubuntu is only unity? no gnome anymore?
[17:42] <McPeter> XiaYixuan, Unity is on Gnome (3)
[17:42] <thelinux> Bier__: TRy this, go to software sources, other software tab, and check independent repositories if they aren't.
[17:42] <XiaYixuan> :(
[17:42] <systemclient> XiaYixuan: nope, the last version with Gnome 2 was 11.10 I think
[17:42] <XiaYixuan> kk
[17:42] <thelinux> yote: No problem.
[17:42] <systemclient> XiaYixuan: there is an Ubuntu Gnome Remix with Gnome 3
[17:42] <Jim_> First I have tried Ubuntu studio and there I got the same problem than in Ubuntu
[17:42] <McPeter> XiaYixuan, maybe you search Gnome-Panel or Gnome-Shell
[17:42] <systemclient> XiaYixuan: but you can just install gnome3 in regular Ubuntu
[17:42] <thelinux> Bier__: Check those independent from other sources, than sudo apt-gte update from terminal and try to install now.
[17:42] <XiaYixuan> if gnome is set to devastating then I don' t care
[17:43] <XiaYixuan> Kubuntu will be fine
[17:43] <kostkon> XiaYixuan, unity is a shell for gnome. unity is gnome
[17:43] <thelinux> systemclient: Ubuntu 11.04
[17:43] <XiaYixuan> I don't like the left side of unity
[17:43] <Bier__> theLinux: in that tab i see only a cd, probably my install cd
[17:43] <Bier__> for ubuntu
[17:43] <XiaYixuan> so cumbersome
[17:43] <Cong> unity is a plugin for compiz
[17:43] <McPeter> XiaYixuan, try Gnome-Xhell ..or Gnome-Panel
[17:43] <Bier__> and its checked
[17:43] <McPeter> Gnome-Panel same GUI for Gnome2
[17:44] <McPeter> s/Xhell/Shell
[17:44] <thelinux> XiaYixuan: If you don't like Unity, try MATE, it's fork of gnome 2.x.
[17:44] <XiaYixuan> thelinux, no thanks. I don't like old stuff that much
[17:44] <McPeter> just install gnome-panel if you search old interface
[17:45] <Jim_> I think it's my AMD APU that is the problem. Is Amd A8 4500m supported in ubuntu?
[17:45] <thelinux> XiaYixuan: It isn't old, it's constantly updating with a wide and large community.
[17:46] <dr_willis> of course the gmome fallback mode is set to get phased out in the future...
[17:46] <kostkon> thelinux, it is destined to die eventually, when all the major gtk2/gnome2 apps are converted to gtk3/gnome3
[17:47] <kostkon> will convert*
[17:47] <jrib> compdoc: sure, you can just define it there
[17:47] <dr_willis> for old school look. i use lxde
[17:47] <spindritf> can I put /var/run on a ramdisk (tmpfs)?
[17:47] <McPeter> any for weblizer ? :)
[17:47] <jrib> compdoc: assuming vnc4server likes /that/ file :)
[17:47] <thelinux> Bier__: You're missing repositories I guess.
[17:48] <systemclient> Jim_: maybe you have some luck here: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification
[17:48] <ghostconn>  12:10 will i loose all my setting and torrent downloading?
[17:48] <dr_willis> spindritf: i thought it allready was... let me look.
[17:48] <thelinux> kostkon: Not really. They plan to port it to Gtk3
[17:48] <ghostconn> by upgrading to 12:10 will i loose all my settings
[17:48] <Bier__> any way to fix that?
[17:49] <thelinux> ghostconn: No.
[17:49] <kostkon> thelinux, hmm ok
[17:49] <ghostconn> thank you
[17:49] <spindritf> dr_willis, not on my ubuntu 12.10 64bit install, I know I can move /tmp and /var/log to memory, but I also see /var/run being used by some apps a little too much
[17:49] <xangua> Bier__: you were already told it may be because you use 64bit and znes is only aviable for 32bit
[17:49] <dr_willis> my /run is on tmpfs here
[17:49] <ghostconn> 32bit sucks
[17:49] <thelinux> Bier__: Yes. You just need to add those missing repositories. I'll help you, let me check.
[17:50] <Bier__> yeah that could be xangua
[17:50] <thelinux> ghostconn: Why?
[17:50] <ghostconn> performance
[17:50] <ghostconn> multicore lol