[01:58] <vimart> Hello #xubuntu
[20:42] <kaenovsky> hi there! I have a question regarding mesa drivers for intel HD Graphics..I need OpenGL 3.3 to run a game, but I installed what I think is the latest version of mesa (17), but after running: glxinfo | grep "OpenGL version"
[20:42] <kaenovsky> I get ==> OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 17.0.0
[20:42] <kaenovsky> Does this mean that my OpenGL version is 2.1? Does anyone know how to upgrade this to 3.3? :/ thank you so much
[20:46] <diogenes_> kaenovsky, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/easy-way-install-mesa-17-0-2-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[20:49] <kaenovsky> diogenes_: thanks I saw that article. I though it was to install mesa from scratch (when I did so I had to compile it). But now I realize you are right, it is also to upgrade the version. So I'll give it a try!
[21:22] <kaenovsky> diogenes_: well that didn't work :/ thank you anyway. The thing is that I need to upgrade my opengl


[00:57] <jjfrv8> Unit193, I didn't know anyone was watching :) I had just done a clean install on my desktop and wanted to make sure I still had all my powers.
[01:00] <bluesabre> Unit193 is always watching
[01:00] <bluesabre> ochosi, congrats!
[01:00] <bluesabre> knome, congrats on getting away!
[14:05] <slickymaster> so elfy, basicaly it resides in the fact that the second line of the third block not only is redundant with the third line of the first block
[14:06] <slickymaster> and also the third line of the first block but is misleading
[14:06] <slickymaster> presently it's
Type touch test Test and enter

Terminal prompt changes to ~/Desktop$

[14:06] <slickymaster> which is of course wrong
[14:06] <elfy> oh yea
[14:07] <slickymaster> going to have a smoke and will have a MP for you to review in a couple of minutes
[14:07] <elfy> mmm
[14:08] <slickymaster> me wonders why is elfy mumbling
[14:08]  * slickymaster wonders why is elfy mumbling
[14:08] <elfy> why would it not cvhange to ~/Desktop?
[14:08] <elfy> when you've cd Desktop ?
[14:08] <slickymaster> because you're running the command to create two text files
[14:08] <elfy> oh - second test
[14:09] <elfy> that needs the missing cd Desktop then - as later we're searching on the desktop
[14:09] <knome> i think we could get slickymaster to the testcase admins team as well ;)
[14:09] <knome> or some team that has push rights to the main branch
[14:09] <slickymaster> hey knome
[14:09] <knome> but i'm off
[14:10] <knome> see you later
[14:10] <knome> -->
[14:10] <slickymaster> lol,that's what I call hit and run
[14:10] <elfy> it's ok slickymaster - he's just this guy now :p
[14:10] <slickymaster> lol
[14:11] <elfy> This test will check that Catfish will use case sensitivity when searching and will search for hidden files
[14:11] <elfy> ^^ test is missing the cd Desktop - then the prompt is correct
[14:11] <slickymaster> agree, the fact is that as it's now it's misleading
[14:12] <elfy> yep - and not right more to the point :p
[14:12] <slickymaster> so will you address it, or do you want me to
[14:12] <slickymaster> ?
[14:13] <elfy> I've got an MP waiting for review - I can just add it to that if you want and then you check both?
[14:13] <slickymaster> ok, works for me elfy
[14:13] <elfy> I'll do it now then
[14:13] <slickymaster> I'll wait you nominate me as reviewer
[14:14]  * slickymaster will have his smoke in the meanwhile
[14:22] <elfy> slickymaster: https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/1314222/+merge/219096
[14:25] <slickymaster> yeah, seeing it now
[14:35] <slickymaster> elf, done -> https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/1314222/+merge/219096
[14:35] <elfy> cool - ty - I'll finish it up now
[14:46] <elfy> slickymaster: all done now - thanks :)
[14:48] <slickymaster> np elfy, don't forget that I still am a -qa guy ;)
[14:48] <elfy> slickymaster: I won't :) I'll not forget you've another hat either though ;)
[14:50] <slickymaster> Hoping to manage to get both balls in the air, like the jugglers
[14:51] <elfy> that's ok - usually :p
[14:51] <elfy> I juggle 4 and maybe a bit of a 5th - more than enough lol
[14:53] <slickymaster> lol
[14:53] <slickymaster> you juggle quite a lot
[14:54] <elfy> lol
[20:12]  * elfy notes that the Parole help docs makes no mention of how to do custom keyboard shortcuts


[19:21] <joey> FunnyLookinHat: I just found your brother. :-)  https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/highermedia/visual-budget-an-interactive-guide-to-the-federal?ref=category
[19:21] <FunnyLookinHat> joey, LOL!


[03:57] <ryanakca> how would I fix bug 87894 ?
[03:57] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 87894 in ubuntu-doc "Server Guide - Installing from CD for Edgy" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/87894
[03:58] <ryanakca> I just confirmed it, and I have the sources for ubuntu-doc...
[03:58] <nixternal> LAMP isn't on a Feisty CD either?
[04:01] <ryanakca> nope
[04:01] <ryanakca> nixternal: cd to the source dir for the server guide, edit and make a patch?
[04:02] <ryanakca> or wait
[04:02] <nixternal> well then, you would remove the CD section, and then either point them to a LAMP section in the guide, or create a LAMP section in the guide
[04:02] <ryanakca> does that mean that there's /no/ lamp by default? or that they removed the option to have a system without lamp by default
[04:02] <nixternal> ryanakca: but yes, that is how you would do it, edit the server guide, then 'svn stat > blah.diff' to create a patch
[04:02] <nixternal> I have no clue what they did with LAMP
[04:02] <ryanakca> hmm...
[04:03] <ryanakca> #ubuntu-devel ?
[04:03] <ryanakca> or where would I ask?
[04:03] <nixternal> prolly
[04:03] <nixternal> wait, isn't there a #ubuntu-server ?
[04:04] <ryanakca> yep
[04:04] <nixternal> hehe
[04:15] <ryanakca> hmm... does ubuntu have a screenshot spec?
[04:15] <ryanakca> Looking around on some of the help.ubuntu.com and the ubuntu.com pages... Screenshots are vastly different in quality. Some have backdrops, others don't, Some have different resolutions even
[04:25] <ryanakca> [22:24:20]  <mralphabet> ryanakca: during the install it asks you if you want to install dns and/or lamp
[04:25] <ryanakca> nixternal: ^^
[05:37] <nixternal> ryanakca: I noticed that in the link you added to the bug report that you are prompted to install either dns, lamp, or both
[05:37] <ryanakca> yeah
[10:28] <MehdiHassanpour> hi :-)
[10:32] <MehdiHassanpour> I'm looking for an article about `why people should choose ubuntu'
[10:32] <MehdiHassanpour> any one can help...
[12:47] <ukubuntu> Hi all, is there processes developing the Ubuntu.org documentation for Feisty as it is Documentation for Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) atm
[12:48] <ukubuntu> https://help.ubuntu.com/
[12:49] <ukubuntu> or is it best to wait for mdke? perhaps he/she can look into this when back
[12:53] <ukubuntu> This is perhaps one area where a novice like me could help, updating such docs
[01:00] <ukubuntu> If I am not in irc you can send me a pm here http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=183382 or here http://fullcirclemagazine.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=898
[01:01] <ukubuntu> I am guessing it is a cannonical issue in part.
[07:20] <ukubuntu> Anyone in the room now to discuss feisty docs on canonical?
[07:21] <ukubuntu> https://help.ubuntu.com/ is the issue
[07:21] <ukubuntu> sorry I had a cable disconnect
[07:21] <ukubuntu> Anyone in the room now to discuss feisty docs on canonical?
[07:21] <ukubuntu> https://help.ubuntu.com/ is the issue
[08:15] <mpt> ukubuntu, if you mean that it doesn't redirect to http://... and should, report a bug on the ubuntu-website project, and it will end up at the right place
[08:15] <mpt> if you mean that it's showing 6.10 stuff instead of 7.04 stuff, I think that problem's already reported
[09:58] <mdke> ukubuntu: we have a bug on it already under ubuntu-docs
[10:22] <ryanakca> nixternal: hmm... seems to be fixed in SVN already
[10:24] <mdke> it's fixed in feisty too, ryanakca, afaics
[10:30] <ryanakca> mdke: ?
[10:30] <ryanakca> bug.. umm... server guide?
[10:30] <mdke> I guessed that you are talking about the same bug I saw you talking about in the scrollback
[10:30] <mdke> about LAMP in the installation section of the serverguide
[10:31] <ryanakca> yep
[10:31] <mdke> seems to me it is fixed in the feisty version
[10:31] <ryanakca> kk
[10:31] <ryanakca> so, mark bug as fix released?
[10:32] <mdke> I'd say so
[10:32] <mdke> have a look at file:///usr/share/ubuntu-serverguide/html/en_GB/installing-from-cd.html and see if you agree
[10:32] <ryanakca> kk, and for the 6.10 server guide?
[10:32] <ryanakca> (since that's what the bug applies to)
[10:32] <mdke> we won't bother fixing that, it's not serious enough
[10:33] <ryanakca> kk
[10:35] <mdke> plenty of those!
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #110863 in ubuntu-docs (main) "ubuntu-serverguide doesn't install C/ locale" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/110863
[10:36] <mdke> anyone can confirm that, I'd be grateful
[10:36] <mdke> ryanakca: one great thing to do would be to have a look at the official Ubuntu book and see if there are some useful things that aren't included in our system docs, and file bugs about them or do some patches
[10:38] <ryanakca> mdke: official ubuntu book... That printed book by Corey, jono, etc?
[10:38] <mdke> that's right
[10:38] <ryanakca> but... if you want to send me a copy, I'd be eternally grateful :)
[10:38] <mdke> ryanakca: it's in our svn somewhere
[10:39] <mdke> yes, under trunk/teamstuff
[10:39] <ryanakca> yep, found it
[10:39] <ryanakca> I guess there's only .odt, and no .pdf/html?
[10:40] <mdke> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/book/book-toc.html <-- couple of the chapters
[10:40] <ryanakca> brb
[10:40] <ryanakca> thanks
[10:41] <mdke> no worries, give us a shout if you need more help
[11:19] <ryanakca> will do


[21:27] <harlowja> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/069240.html if u guys intersted
[21:27] <harlowja> check it out :-P smoser ^ lol
[21:27] <harlowja> or anyone else interested :-P
[21:27] <harlowja> (my other work)
[21:41] <smoser> i refuse to acknoledge you have been given permission to work on other things
[21:41] <harlowja> :-P
[21:41] <harlowja> lol
[21:41] <harlowja> i mean, thats a slide-set about cloud-init
[21:41] <harlowja> obviousslyyyyy
[21:42] <smoser> oh. let me look then.
[21:42] <harlowja> lol


[21:42] <jhenke> Hi, did anybody succeed to boot xenial in a KVM vm with vga virtio (aka virgl)? Here it sadly never gets past the plymouth oot screen


[00:00] <meustation> I've got this awesome more-than-8-gb flash drive made after some mainstream sf stuff
[00:00] <meustation> I believe it's ntfs, been using it mostly on linux which is the brand for all my home machines
[00:01] <meustation> because I could not afford data loss in the bsod days of early new century
[00:01] <daftykins> only ever saw BSODs from overclocking or faulty hardware myself
[00:01]  * meustation uses his machines mainly as futuristic typewriters
[00:02] <daftykins> i wouldn't trust flash drives for anything of value
[00:02] <meustation> what would you trust?
[00:02]  * meustation is puzzled
[00:03] <meustation> I don't think there was anything I could not afford to loose in the part of data that seems missing atm
[00:03] <meustation> the weird thing is how the thing evolved into some data apparently missing
[03:00] <pagios> hi all does badusb work when linux is locked by xscreemsaver? can someone plug in a usb amd get something nasty?
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[12:03] <pagios> hi lotuspsychje


[05:42] <bduk1> Good morning peeps
[06:09] <Kilos> hi bduk1 bushtech charl_ psychicist Squirm theblazehen and all others too
[06:23] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[06:25] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[06:25] <Kilos> hi Rynomster
[06:27] <mazal> Morning everyone
[06:30] <Kilos> hi mazal
[06:31] <mazal> Gaanit oom ?
[06:32] <Kilos> goed dankie en self mazal ?
[06:32] <mazal> Goed goed , vries net :P
[06:32] <Kilos> ja die koue is lelik
[06:46] <mazal> inetpro, forgot to give you feedback yesterday , the ext4 stick solved my rsync problem completely
[06:46] <Kilos> ohi drubin are you here? hows things with you?
[06:46] <mazal> Keeping my multi-purpose stick seperate now
[07:32] <charl_> morning all
[07:33] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[07:33]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[07:37] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[07:50] <Kilos> hi charl_ Vince-0
[07:50] <Vince-0> Haai
[08:05] <charl_> hi Kilos
[08:05] <charl_> hi Vince-0
[08:12] <Vince-0> Haai ChanServ
[08:12] <Vince-0> i mean charl_
[08:17] <charl_> lol
[08:23] <smile> hoi :p
[08:24] <Vince-0> work calls!
[08:27] <charl_> hey smile
[08:27] <charl_> hoe gaat het jonge
[08:28] <smile> charl_: goed :D
[08:28] <smile> wel een beetje snotter de snot :p
[08:28] <smile> met jou? :p
[08:28] <charl_> allergien ? ik heb zelf ook last ervan
[08:29] <charl_> voornamelijk de graspollen
[08:29] <charl_> maar ja verder gaat het goed
[08:29] <smile> charl_: ja, onder andere :P
[08:29]  * smile knuffelt charl_ :)
[08:29] <charl_> :D
[08:30] <smile> charl_: lees jij tweakers.net? :p
[08:30] <mazal> superfly, what site do you use to download your minetest mods ?
[08:30] <charl_> ja idd, bijna elke dag :)
[08:31] <charl_> smile: een paar weken geleden ben ik in leiden geweest op de japanmarkt - ik kocht een heel leuke knuffel "nemuneko"
[08:32] <charl_> ziet er ongeveer zo uit: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltox3yO69w1qcci6no1_500.jpg
[08:32] <smile> charl_: ze hebben ook een irc-netwerk op irc://irc.tweakers.net
[08:32] <smile> wist ik niet :p
[08:33] <smile> hoofdkanaal daar is #tweakers.net :P
[08:33] <smile> haha, schattig, charl_ :)
[08:33] <charl_> nemuneko betekent "slapende poes" in het japans
[08:33] <charl_> ik ben ook op animecon geweest afgelopen weekend in den haag
[08:36] <charl_> oh leuk ! een irc netwerk alleen voor tweakers en fok.nl ?
[08:36] <charl_> en in de motd staat een operator "Dubbeldrank" :D
[08:37] <smile> haha :D
[08:37] <smile> ik heb me daarnet geregistreerd, charl_ :)
[08:38] <charl_> vreemd heb er nog nooit eerder wat over gehoord
[08:39] <charl_> maar ja goed ik idle er wel :) ik zit tegenwoordig op een hele hoop irc netwerken
[08:41] <charl_> ik idle ook vaak op #piratenpartij op pirateirc.net - vind er wel wat leuke linkjes (privacy-related)
[08:42] <smile> charl_: ja, ik las het vandaag bij mIRC 7.34
[08:42] <smile> http://tweakers.net/downloads/32919/mirc-734.html
[08:42] <Kerbero[dsp]> o
[08:42] <smile> charl_: aha :p
[08:42] <Kerbero[dsp]> nederlands
[08:42] <Kerbero[dsp]> leuk
[08:42] <smile> Kerbero[dsp]: ja :D
[08:42] <Kerbero[dsp]> hi smile
[08:42] <smile> hoi. ;)
[08:42] <charl_> hey Kerbero[dsp] :)
[08:43] <Kerbero[dsp]> hi ChanServ
[08:43] <Kerbero[dsp]> charl_,
[08:43] <Kerbero[dsp]> lol
[08:45] <charl_> smile: jaren geleden heb ik ook mirc gebruikt (toen ik nog windows gebruikte) maar tegenwoordig heeft het weinig nut (voor mij) :P
[08:45] <charl_> ik draai nu al een stuk of 8 jaar irssi
[08:47] <smile> Kerbero[dsp]: chanserv is never gone :D
[08:48] <smile> ik draai chatzilla, ben ik heel tevreden mee :) hier heb ik mooie, grafische smileys
[08:48] <charl_> lol, ja ik doe bijna alles op de terminaal
[08:49] <charl_> voor softwareontwikkeling gebruiken mijn collegas allemaal IDEs, ik gebruik vim :P
[08:51] <charl_> goed, ik moet even verder hier, tot straks :)
[08:53] <smile> tot straks! :p
[11:02] <Vince-0> 'gotta keep 'em separated
[11:11] <Kilos> haha Vince-0
[11:11] <Kilos> ohi superfly
[11:11] <superfly> hi Kilos
[11:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo
[11:12] <Vince-0> it's amusing how many full albums are available on youtube
[11:12] <superfly> sup ThatGraemeGuy
[11:12] <Kilos> will call in the lava master just now
[11:12] <mazal> superfly, what is the name of the mod you use for that crafting grid and advanced buttons on the bottom of the inventory with the fast travel etc. ?
[11:12] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: you watering your pyramid, I presume?
[11:12] <superfly> mazal: unified inventory
[11:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> i put a block of water on the top for giggles, and then removed it, but it seems to have glitched a bit :-o
[11:13] <mazal> superfly, I have that , but doesn't work in sp for me :(
[11:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> was hoping it was client-side, but i guess not
[11:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> maybe restarting the minetest server will fix it up
[11:13] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: I saw it on the map, so definitely server-side
[11:14] <ThatGraemeGuy> ew :(
[11:14] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh yeah
[11:14] <ThatGraemeGuy> see it was right at the peak and you can see on the map now that's free of water
[11:15] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, tonight we play in lava ok?
[11:15] <Kilos> i gotta go eat now
[11:15] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah sure, i only have 1 chest full of obsidian, i can use another few stacks ;)
[11:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> i need to go mining though my diamond supply has dried up and i only have 4 mese blocks left at home
[11:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> obsidian farming is heavy on the tools
[11:17] <Kilos> ya
[11:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> my pyramid is done just need to fix alignment on some of the glow glass inside where i got the count wrong
[11:18] <ThatGraemeGuy> then i'll probably drop a mineshaft and build a mini town in there or something
[11:18] <Kilos> found nice patches of obsidian where we are going then ran from lava when i mined the wrong block looking for the source
[11:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> i dropped a shaft down the gravel pit area and came across 3 lava lakes very close together
[11:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> and proceeded to completely eradicate the lava layer by layer
[11:49] <ThatGraemeGuy> mmm
[11:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://mirror.tenet.ac.za/ down for you guys too?
[11:50] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, you dont need to drop a shaft , this is already at -2800 about
[11:50] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: what is?
[11:50] <Kilos> Maaz, is http://mirror.tenet.ac.za/ down
[11:51] <Kilos> where i found the lava
[11:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh my word
[11:51] <Maaz> Kilos: I'm not feeling too well
[11:51] <Kilos> so get your hammer ready
[11:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> that will take me an hour to get there
[11:51] <ThatGraemeGuy> ai that's tooooo deep man
[11:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> might as well build a house down there
[11:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> put down some dirt, plant some trees
[11:52] <Kilos> no man mese comes strong and sommer 8 blocks at a time
[11:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> trees grow lekker in the dark
[11:52] <Kilos> lol
[11:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> lots of dirt blocks, plant some grass, you might even find that sheep start spawning there
[11:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> and loads of super glow glass
[11:54] <ThatGraemeGuy> i think i know what i'm going to do under my pyramid :)
[11:55] <Kilos> what
[11:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> build an underground village
[11:55] <Kilos> haha
[11:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> carve out a nice 200x200x16 cavern
[11:55] <Kilos> shopping mall
[11:56] <Kilos> is there a door into the pyramid
[11:56] <Kilos> sorry superfly
[11:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> there is an entrance, you will have to find it :-p
[11:56] <Kilos> lol
[11:56] <Kilos> i got lotsa mese picks so entry np
[11:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> :-(
[11:57] <Kilos> i  can help you with mese tonight
[11:57] <Kilos> i wont hurt your pyramid man
[11:57] <ThatGraemeGuy> need to get that water to go away somehow
[11:58] <Kilos> put sand on then sweep clean
[11:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[11:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> you obviously haven't seen the extent of the problem
[11:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> more than half the pyramid has water flowing, even though i took the source block away
[11:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> maybe i should put down a block of water on the top block then pick it up 10 sec later
[11:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> maybe it'll figure itself out
[12:00] <Kilos> ai!
[12:13] <Kilos> i got 10 mese blocks too
[12:14] <Kilos> and what is mithril used for
[12:14] <Kilos> i got mithril ingots
[13:00] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos you can make tools with it
[13:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> pick/shovel/hoe/axe
[13:05] <JabberwockyA19> I installed kubuntu 14.04 on my gaming desktop yesterday but could not even install steam :-( getting a seg fault after I agree to the license
[13:06] <JabberwockyA19> I think this should solve it, hopefully http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2209830
[13:34] <Kilos> hahaha ThatGraemeGuy ran a couple times but found many lava sources
[13:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> down in the deep?
[13:36] <Kilos> yip
[13:36] <Kilos> you need to hire a dwarf to mine down here for you
[13:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> can a person run more than one minetest at a time? i should just give you my password then you can climb down so long
[13:36] <ThatGraemeGuy> :P
[13:36] <Kilos> haha
[13:37] <Kilos> i leave bart down there till he has lotsa stuff to hand over
[13:37] <Kilos> you clever okes should work on two way teleporting
[13:41] <Kilos> -2679
[13:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> there is a teleporter mod
[13:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can put down a teleport pad that jumps you to specified co-ordinates
[13:42] <Kilos> how do i get that or must fly install it?
[13:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> he must install on the server
[13:42] <Kilos> that would be ideal
[13:42] <Kilos> save hours of climbing up and down ladders
[13:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can install it and try it out in single player mode
[13:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> but for the server, the server must have mods installed
[13:43] <Kilos> na my single player thing is unevolved
[13:43] <Kilos> done nothing ther
[13:43] <Kilos> e
[13:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah, but i meant just to play with it and see how well it works
[13:44] <Kilos> ok gimme ill try
[13:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2149
[13:44] <Kilos> even my hammer gets tired of standing on the keyboard so long
[13:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> actually even easier
[13:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> open a terminal
[13:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> cd ~/.minetest/mods
[13:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> git clone https://github.com/Bad-Command/teleporter.git ./teleporter
[13:45] <Kilos> bash: cd: /home/miles/.minetest/mods: No such file or directory
[13:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> mkdir ~/.minetest/mods
[13:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> sorry i forgot there isn't a mods dir by default
[13:48] <Kilos> ok done. had to install git as well
[13:51] <Kilos> do we have moreores installed
[13:51] <Kilos> and mesecons
[13:52] <charl_> finally back, hectic day
[13:52] <charl_> hey Kilos, ThatGraemeGuy
[13:52] <charl_> what are you doing, mining away? no strikes yet?
[14:03] <Kilos> haha no strikes when you do everything yourself
[14:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> hey charl_ :)
[14:40] <smile> hi Kilos :)
[14:58] <Kilos> hi smile
[14:58] <smile> :) how are you?
[14:59] <Kilos> ok ty and you?
[14:59] <smile> fine, too :p
[15:00] <smile> I have a cold - again.
[15:00] <smile> :(
[15:00] <Kilos> ai!
[15:03] <smile> Kilos: can you give me a new nose? :D
[15:04] <Kilos> ya but it will be flatter
[15:27] <Kilos> and it will hurt some too
[15:37] <kbmonkey> hi Kilos and smile
[15:38] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey
[15:38] <kbmonkey> superfly, just to confirm: I run minetest at work over the DSL and still experience the delay.
[15:39] <Kilos> it was so lekker sat avy kbmonkey biult the dam wall with no lag at all was lekker
[15:39] <Kilos> and today its been chopping and changing
[15:40] <kbmonkey> I look at the maintenance ledge on the wall, he he
[15:40] <Kilos> haha
[15:42] <kbmonkey> okay I put some sticks in my crafter to mmmmmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake a fenceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[15:42] <smile> hi kbmonkey :p
[15:42] <smile> Kilos: oh :(
[15:43] <kbmonkey> oh crap sorry, my keyboarrrrrrrd is aacting very weird :(
[15:44] <smile> kbmonkey: put your cat on the floor, not on the keyboard ;)
[15:44] <kbmonkey> oh just great, I crafted 90 of the rong thing
[15:44] <kbmonkey> ha ha smile
[15:46] <Kilos> oi
[15:50] <arnaud> hello guys
[15:50] <arnaud> having issue with my rhel beta install (hope someone can help here)
[15:50] <arnaud> here is the link http://slexy.org/view/s2NIRgXzWI
[15:54] <kbmonkey> hi arnaud, that is rpm and majority of people here are familiar with apt only. that said have you tried to run your command with --skip-broken?
[15:55] <arnaud> kbmonkey, i've tried believe me
[15:57] <kbmonkey> and is that with the default package selections arnaud ? it seems as if php is requiring a higher version of apache
[15:58] <kbmonkey> if that is the case then well it *is* a beta install after all, and possibly a bug that you have to report.
[15:58] <kbmonkey> best to approach the rhel team with this... perhaps they have a #chan on freenode...?
[16:03] <arnaud> kbmonkey, i think it's okay now
[16:04] <arnaud> i've remove the package httpd-mmn that was installed
[16:04] <arnaud> kbmonkey, now i'll give it a time to load then give you with output
[16:05] <Kilos> hi arnaud you using redhat stuff
[16:05] <Kilos> i think its called redhat
[16:06] <Kilos> the stuff Squirm does
[16:06] <Kilos> hi psychicist
[16:07] <arnaud> Kilos, yes
[16:07] <arnaud> i'm using that RHEL stuff as you said
[16:07] <Kilos> lol
[16:07] <Kilos> we mainly dbian peeps here
[16:07] <Kilos> debian
[16:08] <Kilos> but Squirm does redhat
[16:08] <arnaud> Kilos, i do debs also
[16:09] <Kilos> you have probs with debs too?
[16:09] <arnaud> i don't have probs with debs trsut me
[16:10] <Kilos> good to hear
[16:11] <Kilos> we actually need more rpm peeps to hang here to broaden our strength
[16:12] <arnaud> yeah
[16:12] <arnaud> i'm here
[16:12] <arnaud> i do both apt and yum (some skills) with more preferences on yum
[16:12] <Kilos> good
[16:13] <Kilos> would be good to have experts in all linux fields here
[16:13] <Kilos> we have some but they busy most of the time
[16:59] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[16:59] <Kilos> wb
[16:59] <Kilos> supper time for me wbb
[16:59] <magespawn> learning new irc client for the phone
[17:01] <smile> magespawn: which one? :-
[17:01] <smile> :)
[17:01] <magespawn> Learning on the fly. good evening all
[17:01] <magespawn> rice irc
[17:07] <magespawn> wbb
[17:16] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:16] <Kilos> hi Private_User
[17:16] <Kilos> yo bushtech how gaan dit met die ballie
[17:20] <bushtech> sukkel weer vanaand met vodacom en dis weer lekker koud vanaand
[17:20] <bushtech> hoe lyk dinge jou kant?
[17:21] <Kilos> eish die vodacom, ek is bly ek het hulle vervang met 8ta
[17:21] <Kilos> als goed hier dankie net vrek koud
[17:31] <Kilos> ai!
[17:32] <Kilos> i forget everytime to wait till minetest is open before i got to another app. then the mouse disappears
[17:32] <Kilos> inetpro, amper naweek. uithou
[17:52] <theblazehen> :( Person that WAS gonna buy my GPU no longer wants to :/
[17:52] <Kilos> ai!
[17:52] <Kilos> bit pricey
[17:52] <theblazehen> yeah
[17:52] <theblazehen> Gotta find someone else now :(
[17:53] <Kilos> isnt that bitcoin thing paying?
[17:53] <Kilos> thought you would be rich by now
[17:53] <theblazehen> yeah, but I spent most of it. lol
[17:54] <nlsthzn> o/
[17:55] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn wb
[17:55] <theblazehen> hi nlsthzn
[17:55] <Kilos> why you so scarce
[17:55] <nlsthzn> how is everyone?
[17:55] <Kilos> we need some of that heat you have so much of
[17:55] <nlsthzn> life happens uncle Kilos ... it has been kicking my @ss for most of the last few months
[17:55] <Kilos> eish
[17:57] <nlsthzn> no worries, but I will be in SA from the 27th until the 25th of next month for vacation :)
[17:57] <Kilos> thats good
[18:00] <superfly> ohi
[18:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> no, read again
[18:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> there's an alternate craft recipe that uses standard items
[18:11] <Kilos> and if you dont have then try other stuff
[18:11] <Kilos> ive had to reboot coupla times, i lose my mouse
[18:11] <Kilos> ya man alternat
[18:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> the functionality of the item remains identical regardless of how you craft it
[18:11] <Kilos> why use alternats if you can use the first choice stuff
[18:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> you don't understand how the stuff works
[18:12] <Kilos> oh i tried local minetest. no good too different
[18:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> "why" is exactly because then you don't need another mod installed
[18:12] <Kilos> nope i dont
[18:12] <Kilos> thats why you here
[18:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> read the thread
[18:13] <Kilos> ok ill take your word for it
[18:13] <Kilos> if i got to another app while minetest is loading i lose my mouse
[18:13] <Kilos> hehe, then ctrl+alt+t and sudo reboot
[18:14] <theblazehen> alt+sysrq+b ;)
[18:41] <smile> byeee :)
[19:12] <Kilos> night all . sleep tight
[20:33] <spinza> night


[23:08] <leftyfb> pikapika: feel free to /join #ansible for help with ansible
[23:10] <pikapika> ravage, mainly lots of small changes that add up to an annoying lot
[23:10] <pikapika> I don't think I have made much changes at base system level like editing /etc/ things and backporting dkms, etc but there is some of that too
[23:32] <morganu> 20.04 I am looking for a python shell gui window and cant find it. I try activities which tells me it is available (not installed) and when I click on it it is absent.
[23:33] <leftyfb> morganu: you mean an IDE?
[23:33] <leftyfb> python is not GUI, nor is it's shell
[23:35] <morganu> from the tutorial:  Using the Python Shell, IDLE and Writing our FIRST program
[23:35] <morganu> from a book about learning python.
[23:36] <morganu> We’ll be writing our code using the IDLE program that comes bundled with our Python interpreter.
[23:36] <leftyfb> morganu: the package name is idle3
[23:36] <morganu> and do I invoke it from terminal?
[23:37] <leftyfb> morganu: install the package called idle3
[23:37] <ravage> https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/all/idle/filelist
[23:37] <ravage> so its 'idle'
[23:38] <kostkon> !info idle
[23:38] <leftyfb> ravage: it's idle3
[23:38] <morganu> I am installing idle3 all lower case. right?
[23:38] <ravage> no
[23:38] <ravage> the binary is idle
[23:38] <leftyfb> morganu: yes
[23:39] <ravage> so thats how you invoke it from terminal. that was his second querstion
[23:39] <ravage> *question
[23:39] <morganu> the words: the binary is .. does not help me to act.  ( I know what a binary file IS but not how to use one in linux.)
[23:39] <morganu> I am her since you guys care.
[23:40] <leftyfb> ravage: morganu: if it's a GUI, more than likely it's in the list of GUI applications like firefox
[23:40] <ravage> that is not the terminal. and thats what he asked
[23:40] <leftyfb> morganu: but yes, to call it from terminal, you type: idle
[23:40] <leftyfb> but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense calling GUI applications from terminal
[23:41] <leftyfb> morganu: you should be launching it just like you would firefox
[23:43] <ravage> morganu, for your first python steps that sounds like a reasonable way. when you know the basics maybe check out https://vscodium.com/
[23:43] <morganu> leftyfb, "the list of gui applications" is not a good set either. ah you mean what "Activities" shows.  Yes I have two, one says python. It opens. I shall proceed.
[23:44] <morganu> I haev been a fortran and pascal programmer in the wayback. so I am ignorant and smart. I am starting at the beginning.
[23:46] <leftyfb> morganu: after installing idle3, you should see "idle" in the list of "activities"
[23:47] <leftyfb> though it's not activities really
[23:47] <leftyfb> hit the windows(super) key on your keyboard and type: idle
[23:47] <leftyfb> it should popup, it enter on it
[23:47] <leftyfb> hit*
[23:52] <morganu> my brain is now exploding: framework, library. Very quickly I am beginning to understand how it is that I have had NO IDE what was meant in job descriptions. Peace.  (reading framework vs library till I find a transparent description.)
[23:53] <Intelo> Hi
[23:54] <leftyfb> morganu: IDLE is an IDE
[23:54] <Intelo> I am on  20.04.4 LTS. Why I can't upgrade to 22.04 LTS. If I do `do-release-upgrade`, it says "There is no development version of an LTS available."
[23:56] <thingfish> Intelo: the developers have put upgrading on hold until the first point release.
[23:57] <leftyfb> Intelo: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/04/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-22-04-lts
[23:58] <Intelo> thingfish when would that be?
[23:58] <Intelo> leftyfb do I later need to revert back to non-dev release?
[23:59] <leftyfb> Intelo: just read the article and follow the directions
[23:59] <Intelo> leftyfb thingfish is it a good idea to upgrad now?


[10:33] <Lindo> ahoy
[10:34] <Lindo> So iv got a question i suspect i could google.
[10:35] <Lindo> is ubuntu mate the same as ubuntu, in termes of getting it to work_
[10:35] <Lindo> like the same 'base' but different packaging
[12:13] <alkisg> Lindo: ubuntu, lubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu-mate etc all have the same base and packaging, and the difference is the desktop environment, like, the menu, the windows, a few tools etc
[12:14] <Lindo> thats good to know, i recon ubuntu is one of the big communities
[12:15] <alkisg> ubuntu is the biggest of them, yes. Ubuntu-mate is for more tranditional users, more lightweight etc
[12:15] <Lindo> completly new to this linux thing, so i need all the help i can get to get set up with cs>go and just functionality
[12:15] <alkisg> If you want games, better to use windows
[12:15] <Lindo> yeah, thats what i got from reading a bit, that this was a more lightweight system, wich i guess i want for gaming performance
[12:15] <alkisg> It's possible to set up some games in linux, but that comes after you like it for the rest of the stuff
[12:16] <Lindo> hehe
[12:16] <alkisg> gaming performance isn't very related to the desktop environment
[12:16] <Lindo> yeah, but i dont really have a windows license, and now my win7 is fucking up all sorts of ways
[12:16] <Lindo> not licensed this that blah blah warnings all over
[12:16] <alkisg> OK
[12:18] <Lindo> I recon il install this mate thing, it looks nice enough for me, i guess its just a matter of getting used to this new, for me completly ilogical filing system and such
[12:19] <alkisg> It has an "advanced menu" in the settings that looks a bit like the windows xp menu
[12:20] <Lindo> the \controll center\_
[12:20] <Lindo> ?
[12:21] <alkisg> system > preferences > appearance > mate tweak
[12:22] <Lindo> uh, i liked this 'advanced' menu checkbox
[12:23] <Lindo> meh, i got to vacume ;{
[13:00] <Lindo> ay ayy
[13:00] <alkisg> ya yaa
[13:00] <Lindo> ana, so you say linux isnt good for gaming preformance
[13:00] <Lindo> how bad is it? i really only play CS:GO, and i know it atleast starts
[13:01] <alkisg> !winehq
[13:01] <alkisg> See there for each game you care about
[13:10] <lindo> ayy so i was in the middle of the install sorry
[13:11] <lindo> uhm, anywhoo, i encountered my first problem on the reboot. it wanted an encryption password or somthing on the 'startup' window, befor the user interface with mice
[13:11] <lindo> well, the keyboard didnt work
[13:12] <lindo> allso, i need to start it with 'nomodeset' from the thumb drive, in order for my computer not to go black, and starting up and shutting down all the usb ports over and over again
[13:12] <lindo> >D
[13:33] <shafaat> Hi. Anyone facing issues with Software Boutique?
[13:34] <shafaat> I am new to UbuntuMate and I am not able to install any software from Welcome -> Software Boutique
[13:35] <shafaat> It gives: Package doesnot exist error
[13:35] <shafaat> for any software
[13:35]  * alkisg always does `sudo apt install gnome-software` and doesn't use boutique...
[13:36] <shafaat> let me try it from Mate Terminal.
[13:45] <shafaat>  sudo apt-get update
[13:46] <shafaat> after running this, software boutique started working
[13:46] <shafaat> Thanks @alkisg
[13:46] <alkisg> Eh, np
[13:46] <alkisg> :)
[17:49] <musicalcoder> hey all - I just had to do a fresh install of UM - and I only had 16.04.1 - if I do a dist-upgrade will that take me to 16.10 or 17.04 alpha?
[17:59] <Larry_b> Good Afternoon all. If someone is a available for a quick question
[17:59] <Larry_b> i am on the latest version (17) of mate but my ALT + RMB is interfering with blender app
[18:00] <Larry_b> I have looked online and tried changing mouse OS binding to SUPER instead of alt and foudn a lot of good (dated) info on this
[18:00] <Larry_b> but nothign I try seems to work. is there another system that handles the ALT MOUSECLICK functions
[18:16] <Guest36879> Question: Is there a way to make clicking in the empty part of a scroll bar the same as page down and page up? I rarely want to go exactly to the place in a document proportional to the scroll bar position.
[18:20] <PawelF> Hi
[18:21] <PawelF> Can anyone help me with basic network troubleshooting?
[18:21] <PawelF> I'm having problem with USB LTE modem
[18:25] <Guest36879> It seems this place is not active and lacks resources to answer questions. Goodbye.
[19:16] <drdog> Anyone have any idea why 17.04 is showing two icons in the tray?
[19:16] <drdog> wifi icons, that is...
[19:34] <Inops> Hi all. I've just recently installed 16.04. I'm having problem with Qt programs. Their menu dropdowns. when on my secondary monitor, popup a good distance down from the menu buttom (e.g. 'File'). This seems to be an example of this bug: https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-29278 (see this for an example). Anyone aware of how to fix this?
[20:31] <swift110> hey all
[20:35] <Inops> Hi all. I've just recently installed 16.04. I'm having
[20:35] <Inops>       problem with Qt programs. Their menu dropdowns. when on my secondary
[20:35] <Inops>       monitor, popup a good distance down from the menu buttom
[20:35] <Inops>       (e.g. 'File'). This seems to be an example of this bug:
[20:35] <Inops>       https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-29278 (see this for an
[20:35] <Inops>       example). Anyone aware of how to fix this?
[23:00] <mate|18972> Hi
[23:01] <mate|18972> Anyone here
[23:04] <mate|32576> Hello


[00:00] <mungbean> need to fix my wellie boot
[00:00] <mungbean> im mending stuff everywhere atm
[00:00] <ali1234> i use milliput for repairing connectors mostly
[00:01] <ali1234> or casings
[00:02] <mungbean> now listening to uss enterise warp drives noise
[00:02] <popey> http://bruxy.regnet.cz/web/linux/EN/bash-nyan-cat  cute
[00:02] <mungbean> wifey will be pleased
[00:03] <mungbean> yeah, i commented the nyan music first
[00:03] <ali1234> i should make teletext version
[00:03] <mungbean> i use clementine with nyan on the EQ moodbar thing
[00:03] <ali1234> just to get karma
[00:05] <ali1234> in fact this may work unmodified
[00:10] <mungbean> the guy who made nyan cat looks like joey from omg twin bro
[00:10] <mungbean> http://popgoestheweek.com/2011/04/pop-profile-the-brains-behind-the-viral-phenomenon-nyan-cat/
[00:13] <mungbean> youtubing on chrome was making my fan spin, so...
[00:13] <mungbean> /usr/bin/play -n -c1 synth whitenoise lowpass -1 120 lowpass -1 120 lowpass -1 120 gain +14
[00:14] <mungbean> no need for the engine hum video now!
[00:19] <ali1234> http://hujackus.altervista.org/uploads/ConwayMatrix.swf
[00:21] <mungbean> whatever happened to novacut?
[00:22] <popey> still under development
[00:22] <mungbean> havent heard in ages
[00:23] <popey> they post videos and screenshots on G+ now and then
[00:23] <popey> https://launchpad.net/~novacut/+archive/stable?field.series_filter=raring
[00:23] <popey> stable release yesterday
[00:24] <mungbean> openshot already got 18k$
[00:26] <ali1234> play synth has type "brownnoise"
[00:26] <ali1234> i'm pretty sure that's not a real type of noise
[00:26] <mungbean> dont want to click
[00:26] <mungbean> is it a fart?
[00:29] <ali1234> apparently it's brownian noise
[00:34] <mungbean> after watching skyfall i want one of these http://www.airfix.com/airfix-products/aircraft/helicopters/a14101-agustawestland-merlin-hc3-148-a14101/
[00:36] <shauno> you'll never fit in there :/
[00:36] <mungbean> its quite a big kit..
[00:37] <mungbean> http://airfixtributeforum.myfastforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=409&t=37430
[00:37] <mungbean> so much detail.
[00:37] <alexcockell> Does anyone know of a reliable IRC chanel in use re South Korea?  Sounds like it's all kicking off..
[00:38] <popey> alexcockell: _south_ korea?
[00:40] <mungbean> twitter?
[00:40] <mungbean> North Korea's leader Kim Jong-un has ordered missile units to prepare to strike US mainland as a British tour operator was warned that the "outbreak of war probably only hours away"
[00:41] <alexcockell> Popey - yep
[00:42] <popey> fun times
[00:44] <mungbean> "fun"
[00:44] <alexcockell> NK have declared war on SK and USA.
[00:44] <alexcockell> Went to "state of war" a few minutes ago... on BBC and Reuters..
[00:46] <alexcockell> http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/30/us-korea-north-war-idUSBRE92T00020130330
[00:47] <mungbean> only 1 more hour of sitting perfectly still to placate baby. need a drink...cant move
[00:47] <popey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVie_sWCGig meanwhile is fun
[00:47] <popey> i cant see NK doing anything substantial
[00:47] <popey> sounds like political posturing
[00:48] <alexcockell> BBC4 airing Disco at the BBC...
[00:52] <mungbean> why are you all still awake?
[00:53] <popey> think i might make home made pizza with the kids tomorrow
[00:53] <mungbean> made playdough yesterday \o/
[00:56] <popey> heh, wifey used to do that
[00:58] <ali1234> i'm making annoying noises with play
[00:59] <mungbean> lol sorry bout that
[00:59] <alexcockell> Mungbean - Always up late on BBC4 - their music programming and all that...
[00:59] <mungbean> i spent ages 8-16 making annoying noises on my home vomputers
[00:59] <mungbean> argh typing with 1 finger
[01:02] <mungbean> hmm theres 4 pages missing from the middle of this book. this is why i stoppfd going to library. snd the fact that they never have books u need, and they are sticky..
[01:12] <ali1234> lol
[07:52] <popey> morning
[07:52] <kvarley> popey: \0
[07:53] <kvarley> popey: oh btw, re: my questions the other day - my nexus 10 dispatched \0/
[07:54] <popey> huzzah
[08:06] <SuperMatt> anyone's software updater getting stuck here? Preparing to replace linux-image-3.8.0-15-generic 3.8.0-15.25 (using .../linux-image-3.8.0-15-generic_3.8.0-15.25_amd64.deb) ...
[08:09] <popey> yes
[08:10] <popey> known bug
[08:10] <popey> kill it then do "sudo dpkg --configure -a" then "sudo apt-get -f install"
[08:10] <SuperMatt> khaaaan!
[08:11] <SuperMatt> thanks :)
[08:17] <SuperMatt> it worked \o/
[08:20] <popey> of course ☺
[08:20] <SuperMatt> ... yes
[08:48] <MooDoo_> hello all
[08:51] <MooDoo> how is everyone today?
[09:13] <popey> http://imgur.com/gallery/UFx8IzG like that
[09:14] <kvarley> hehe
[09:15] <MooDoo> lol :) shame I'm at work lol
[09:56] <kvarley> Is it possible for me to send a link to somebody via email so when they click it, it will open a folder on their computer?
[09:57] <mh0> not seen that done before
[09:57] <kvarley> I think file:///home/user/ may work
[09:58] <kvarley> Only issue is that it's likely to open in their browser, not file manager
[09:58] <mh0> it'd open it in the web browser, but sure
[09:58] <mh0> yeah, i assumed you wanted it in file manager
[09:58] <kvarley> ideally I would
[09:58] <kvarley> No idea how that would work tho
[09:58] <kvarley> There are apt urls tho
[10:54] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[10:54] <MooDoo> hello brobostigon
[10:55] <brobostigon> hello MooDoo
[10:58] <brobostigon> 18:15, bbc1, new Dr Who.
[11:00] <MooDoo> brobostigon: i'm ready for it, hopefully I'll get home from work in time :D
[11:01] <brobostigon> :)
[11:01] <brobostigon> or it will be, iplayer to the rescue,
[11:02] <MooDoo> lol sky+ :)
[11:02] <brobostigon> that works. :)
[11:10] <kvarley> Is there a way to get apt-get dump to only dump package names, not descriptions and dependencies, etc ?
[11:13] <BigRedS> apt-get dump? I've never come across that
[11:14] <MartijnVdS> kvarley: what do you want to accomplish
[11:15] <MooDoo> won't something like this work?  Although never tried it dpkg --get-selections > installed-software
[11:15] <kvarley> BigRedS: Dumps the package lists
[11:15] <kvarley> MooDoo: I want to get packages I haven't installed :)
[11:16] <kvarley> MartijnVdS: I want to output a list of all the packages in the repositories
[11:16] <kvarley> MartijnVdS: Just the package names, no other info
[11:16] <kvarley> At the moment I'm using apt-get dump and regex
[11:16] <MartijnVdS> kvarley: why do you want to do that?
[11:17] <MartijnVdS> !xyproblem
[11:17] <MooDoo> wwo that'll be a big list
[11:17] <MartijnVdS> !xy
[11:18] <kvarley> MartijnVdS: To replicate the package databases for use in another project
[11:19] <MooDoo> kvarley: try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/23045/how-to-list-currently-not-installed-packages
[11:19] <kvarley> MooDoo: Thanks :)
[11:21] <kvarley> What's the deal with using commands listed on AskUbuntu in projects? Are they licensed?
[11:22] <MooDoo> you can't license a command if it's available in the is
[11:22] <MooDoo> os
[11:22] <kvarley> MooDoo: I mean, if I take the command listed on that askubuntu page and use it in a project. What do I have  to do? Attribution?
[11:23] <kvarley> Ah
[11:23] <kvarley> Attribution require
[11:23] <MooDoo> I would of said nothing, if the command they are using is available any way, then you don't need to do anything
[11:23] <MooDoo> kvarley: you could of figured out the command yourself any way
[11:23] <kvarley> I'll include attribution all the same, can't hurt
[11:24] <MooDoo> ok
[11:24] <kvarley> Thanks MooDoo
[11:24] <MooDoo> yw!
[14:01] <MooDoo> It's oh so quiet shhhhhh shhhhhh
[14:05] <kvarley> What do you think about the OpenShot kickstarter?
[14:07] <MooDoo> not seen it
[14:09] <SavageWolf> Uh, anyone know what the channel for getting help about Ubuntu 13.04 is, or where there is a list of Ubuntu based channels?
[14:10] <MooDoo> isn't #ubuntu one?
[14:11] <SavageWolf> I'd assume there'd be a separate one for alpha/beta releases.
[14:11] <MooDoo> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/chat
[14:11] <SavageWolf> Have they actually decided what to do with 13.04 yet, anyway?
[14:11] <MooDoo> SavageWolf: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[14:13] <SavageWolf> Ah, #ubuntu+1, it seems.
[14:16] <MooDoo> :)
[14:31] <MooDoo> wow did I really create my launchpad account in 2006?  blimey
[14:32]  * SuperEngineer plans evening... Dr. Who - followed by [turn off lights & plug in headphones] Amnesia, The Dark Descent
[14:33] <SuperEngineer> [aka "The Dark Descent" .... into madness!]
[14:35] <popey> not played that yet
[14:35] <popey> might give it a go
[14:36] <SuperEngineer> it's cheap on steam at the moment.... tried it last night - verdict: it's good
[14:36] <MooDoo> I just downloaded a game on steam, seems strange running it on ubuntu :)
[14:37] <SavageWolf> I keep buying games that work only on Windows, but can never be bothered restarting to run them.
[14:37] <SavageWolf>  Or firing up POL, or anything like that.
[14:41] <MooDoo> SavageWolf: does the new bioshock work in ubuntu?
[14:41] <SavageWolf> I don't play Bioshock, so I'm not sure.
[14:42] <SuperEngineer> MooDoo: if you have Steam - it will tell you in the games description
[14:42] <SuperEngineer> in the system reuirements section
[14:43] <SuperEngineer> *requirements
[14:44] <MooDoo> SuperEngineer: ok thanks :D
[14:57] <popey> \o/
[14:57]  * popey is making pizza dough, flapjack and home made butter with the kids
[14:58] <MartijnVdS> popey: and then tonight.. The Doctor!
[14:59] <SavageWolf> Oh, is Doctor Who on tonight?
[14:59] <MartijnVdS> new series starts tonight
[14:59] <SuperEngineer> SavageWolf: I think you can safely assume.... YEES
[15:00] <SuperEngineer> [& hi MartijnVdS]
[15:00] <MartijnVdS> \o SuperEngineer
[15:00] <SavageWolf> Ooh, I did not know the dates and such. I should set the recorder thing for it.
[15:00]  * MartijnVdS has a proper (tiny tiny) photo studio now
[15:00] <MartijnVdS> with light boxes and everything
[15:02]  * SuperEngineer hunts for a "tiny tiny" to send MartijnVdS to photograph ;)
[15:03] <SuperEngineer> SavageWolf: BBC1, 18.15
[15:06] <MooDoo> MartijnVdS: photo studio?
[15:07] <MooDoo> MartijnVdS: I just purchased a lastolite backdrop :)
[15:19] <MartijnVdS> MooDoo: I just purchased 2 "box" flashes :)
[15:20] <MartijnVdS> going to spend tonight taking pics of my brothers' new beer bottles :)
[15:21] <MooDoo> MartijnVdS: It's my birthday in april i'm hoping to get a westcott softbox for my speedlight :D
[15:35] <MartijnVdS> Dear Unity
[15:35] <MartijnVdS> Why don't you auto-raise when I configure you to auto-raise?
[15:35] <MartijnVdS> also, why do you reset that setting every time I log in?
[15:43] <SavageWolf> Dear Nautilus 3.6: I hate you.
[16:25] <brobostigon> any suggestions for a html gui for monitoring hostapd ?
[16:25] <MooDoo> will nagios do it?
[16:26] <brobostigon> good question, but i was initally thinking of something simpler.
[17:03] <daubers> Afternoon
[17:07] <MooDoo> howdy daubers
[18:01]  * daubers waits for things to upload to github
[18:10] <DJones> Yay, David Tennant & Billie Piper to return to Dr Who for the 50th anniversary special
[18:11] <brobostigon> :)
[18:14] <SuperEngineer> DW-60
[18:14] <SuperEngineer> It's Dr. Who time right now folks
[18:15]  * popey goes offline till he's watched it
[18:16] <brobostigon> :)
[18:18]  * AlanBell needs to change wifi SSID
[18:19] <brobostigon> lol
[18:47] <darrell09thomas> anyway i can make ubuntu 12.10 look like ubuntu 10.04 anyone help
[18:49] <AlanBell> darrell09thomas: in what way?
[18:49] <darrell09thomas> layout and theme
[18:50] <AlanBell> oh, you probably want gnome panel then
[18:51] <AlanBell> !notunity
[18:51] <AlanBell> gnome shell is pretty cool
[18:51] <darrell09thomas> installed gnome panel still the same unless im doing some thing wrong
[18:51] <AlanBell> you have to choose it in the lightdm login screen
[18:51] <darrell09thomas> ok thanks
[18:52] <AlanBell> unity works OK too if you get used to it
[18:53] <darrell09thomas> how do i get lightdm login screen up
[18:53] <AlanBell> log out ;)
[19:00] <darrell09thomas> still cant change layout and theme after installing gnome
[19:01] <darrell09thomas> ive got ubuntu 12.01 installed and want to change the layout and theme to the way ubuntu 10.04 lokks and runs
[19:01] <AlanBell> did you choose gnome fallback on the login screen?
[19:01] <AlanBell> gnome classic I think
[19:01] <darrell09thomas> there aint no option to change gnome fallback
[19:02] <AlanBell> what do you have in the session chooser thing?
[19:02] <darrell09thomas> nothing just my login name and password or remote login or guess login
[19:03] <MartijnVdS> Doctor Who++
[19:03] <darrell09thomas> theres no session chooser
[19:03] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: nice chamber redesign, :)
[19:04] <AlanBell> darrell09thomas: ubuntu logo next to your name on the lightdm screen
[19:04] <AlanBell> it is a clickable button
[19:05] <DJones> Ugh, I like chocolate and chilli, but not together http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-21981063
[19:05] <darrell09thomas> no ubuntu logo on login session
[19:06] <AlanBell> might be a cog thing on 12.10, if you are in the password box and hit tab it should move focus to it
[19:06] <darrell09thomas> ill try again be back in 2 mins cant i do the login screen change from 12.10 like you could in ubuntu 10.04 in settings administator then login screen this ubuntu 12.10 nothing like ubuntu 10.04
[19:07] <AlanBell> http://askubuntu.com/questions/81161/how-to-remove-session-entries-from-lightdm
[19:08] <AlanBell> yeah, unity is quite different from 2 panel gnome
[19:08] <AlanBell> once you choose your desktop environment it should remember it
[19:09] <darrell09thomas> right changed the login screen to gnome classic logged in and all i got on the top panel isapplications places thats it no setting and that ]#
[19:10] <AlanBell> yeah, it isn't as configurable as the old gnome panel was
[19:11] <AlanBell> it is getting better though, but all the effort is going into unity and gnome-shell
[19:12] <darrell09thomas> thanks AlanBell for your help cheers m8
[19:20] <AlanBell> if you lock the screen in a guest session how do you unlock it?
[19:21] <DJones> !bug 1063711
[19:22] <AlanBell> huh
[19:22] <AlanBell> so suspend/resume from a guest session is broken
[19:22] <AlanBell> which is what I actually did
[19:22] <DJones> Looks like a 9 month old big though
[19:22] <DJones> s/big/bug/
[19:24] <AlanBell> Bug 951000
[19:26] <AlanBell> well that is completely broken then isn't it
[19:28] <popey> evening all
[19:28] <MartijnVdS> \o
[19:28] <MartijnVdS> popey: not watching The Voice then? :)
[19:34] <popey> MartijnVdS: i have a child-unit leaning up against me watching it
[19:43] <brobostigon> will normalish shops be open tmrw afternoon. ?
[19:44] <popey> no
[19:44] <brobostigon> ok. thank you popey
[19:44] <brobostigon> how about monday?
[19:44] <popey> yes
[19:44] <brobostigon> good.
[19:45] <brobostigon> pubs will be open tmrw  though?
[19:48] <popey> no idea
[19:50] <brobostigon> ok.
[20:28] <bigcalm> Good evening peeps :)
[20:28] <brobostigon> evening bigcalm :)
[20:30] <bigcalm> AlanBell: ping
[20:30] <bigcalm> Hi brobostigon
[20:33] <popey> yo
[20:33] <bigcalm> Howdy popey
[20:34] <AlanBell> evening bigcalm
[20:34] <bigcalm> How does one organise an ubuntu-uk event around here?
[20:34] <bigcalm> Aha :)
[20:34]  * AlanBell has been putting up bookshelves
[20:35]  * AlanBell wonders if they will stay up when books get put on them
[20:35] <bigcalm> AlanBell: how stereotypically mannish
[20:35] <AlanBell> yeah, got my man badge
[20:35] <AlanBell> and bought a new drill for the occasion too
[20:35]  * bigcalm feels an impromptu #ubuntu-uk-meeting might be in order
[20:35] <AlanBell> power tools \o/
[20:36] <bigcalm> Haha, more power!
[20:36] <AlanBell> so, events, what did you have in mind?
[20:36] <AlanBell> we do need to talk about the 13.04 launch, such as it is
[20:37] <bigcalm> AlanBell: did you see my tweet from earlier today?
[20:38] <popey> RAT \o/
[20:38] <Laney> in me kitchen
[20:39] <bigcalm> AlanBell: it happens that I'm getting married later this year. You might have heard. And people tend to have a wee party for such things before the event. I thought a good place to have one would be on the RAT. Then I thought, why not make it into an ubuntu-uk outing?
[20:40] <popey> This sounds like an excellent plan.
[20:40] <bigcalm> Looking at the 2 dates in September
[20:40] <bigcalm> popey: glad you agree :)
[20:40] <popey> #action bigcalm do everything
[20:40] <popey> #endmeeting
[20:40] <bigcalm> Ha!
[20:41] <bigcalm> Is it normal to organise ones own stag do?
[20:41] <popey> i had 3
[20:41] <bigcalm> o.O
[20:42] <AlanBell> excellent idea
[20:42] <bigcalm> Link for lazies: http://www.watercressline.co.uk/product.php/10/real-ale-train-r-a-t/cf8160dadf2141514c9ecaf9824d3aca
[20:43] <AlanBell> 14th or 21st
[20:43] <bigcalm> Would be good to pick a date that more people can attend
[20:43] <bigcalm> Yep
[20:44] <AlanBell> 21st would probably be best for me and theopensourcerer
[20:44] <bigcalm> October 5th at a pinch, but I need to then save pennies for the honeymoon in October (we're off to Belgium for a week)
[20:45] <AlanBell> he has two offspring birthdays in september
[20:45] <AlanBell> must be something about new year
[20:45] <bigcalm> :D
[20:46] <bigcalm> popey: when is good for you?
[20:46] <popey> hmm
[20:46] <bigcalm> Dave2: RAT?
[20:46]  * popey shrugs, 14 & 21st are both empty
[20:50] <Dave2> dunno
[20:50] <Dave2> not sure if I'm doing anything in Ocrober
[20:51] <Dave2> er
[20:51] <Dave2> October
[20:51] <Dave2> or is this the September one
[20:51] <Dave2> I don't currently have anything in my calendar for then
[20:52] <Dave2> however I'm just leaving to go to the pub
[20:52] <bigcalm> Dave2: looks to be 21st September. Think about it
[20:54] <bigcalm> czajkowski: you should come join us on the RAT this year (and not be ill). Bring Jon!
[20:55] <bigcalm> Whom else? A couple of Bryns maybe
[20:55] <bigcalm> I think christel will be busy around that time :S
[20:57] <popey> see if aq is around?
[20:57] <bigcalm> And Adam Sweet
[21:03]  * bigcalm likes these spur of the moment beer arrangements. Only 6 months in advance
[21:20] <AlanBell> all the books are on the shelves and none have fallen down \o/
[21:20] <bigcalm> Well done that man
[21:21] <AlanBell> 2 small shelves to put up in the kitchen still
[21:22] <popey> Neat: http://imgur.com/gallery/apQd5
[21:23] <bigcalm> Funky:
[21:24] <AlanBell> very nice
[21:24] <bigcalm> Ale all gone :(
[21:25] <brobostigon> :(
[21:25] <bigcalm> Only wine left in the house now
[21:25] <bigcalm> Le sigh
[21:25] <brobostigon> same as here.
[21:27] <bigcalm> Oop. I'm being told to get off the puta and go watch On Her Maj's Secret Service with my better half
[21:28] <brobostigon> lol, woops.
[21:29] <bigcalm> Toodles :)
[21:30] <bigcalm> AlanBell: would be grateful if you could create an event for 21st September :)
[21:30] <AlanBell> sure
[21:30] <bigcalm> Cheers :)
[21:37] <AlanBell> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2320-real-ale-train/
[21:38] <mungbean> remember the clocks tonight boys
[21:38] <brobostigon> tmrw night.
[21:38] <mungbean> what day is today>
[21:38] <mungbean> satday
[21:39] <popey> tonight
[21:39] <mungbean> hence put them forward now
[21:39] <brobostigon> BST starts tmrw, ah, ok, brain burp. good point.
[21:40] <mungbean> my shift ends 1.30, which is really 2.30, then the boy will wake at 7.30-8am :(
[21:42] <mungbean> that girl on itv looks like an alien
[21:42] <mungbean> head on a stick
[21:42]  * brobostigon is watching QI. :)
[21:48] <mungbean> anyone else have these problems on unity? http://ubuntuone.com/3froHmRtrGfH7dgWq1Wb1p
[21:49] <mungbean> two nautilus icons - only one has the windows
[21:49] <mungbean> and 2) launch picasa, get the wine icon and you can't interact with the picasa icon
[21:52] <popey> what release of ubuntu is that?
[21:53] <popey> you probably have some duplication in desktop files in /usr/share/applications and ~/.local/share/applications
[21:53] <popey> or its a bug in bamf
[21:53] <mungbean> 1204
[21:54] <mungbean> the nautilus icons actually are different
[21:55] <mungbean> gonna just remove it from launcher and see what happebs
[21:56] <popey> yeah, remove both, start nautilus and then lock it to the launcher again
[22:00] <ali1234> i had problems like that constantly when i used unity
[22:02] <popey> i thought we'd fixed most of those
[22:02] <ali1234> like i keep telling you
[22:02] <ali1234> you can never fix it
[22:02] <popey> i know we SRU'd some updates to bamf in 12.04 some time back to fix this stuff
[22:02] <popey> hence "most"
[22:02] <ali1234> there will always be another app new that you don't special case yet
[22:03] <popey> nauilus and wine are hardly new apps
[22:03] <popey> and are well known
[22:03] <ali1234> wine isn't an app
[22:03] <popey> YKWIM
[22:03] <ali1234> it's a runtime for multiple different apps, all of which need to be special cased
[22:03] <ali1234> the same with java
[22:06] <mungbean> docky never had this problem
[22:06] <ali1234> i've seen this happen in OS X
[22:11] <mungbean> trying some one handed gimping , its quite hard
[22:15] <ali1234> wat
[22:15] <popey> baby in hand I imagine
[22:16] <popey> I used to do one handed ircing with sam in hand years ago
[22:16]  * popey goes round changing clocks
[22:16] <daubers> is it that time already?
[22:18] <czajkowski> hmm when is the RAT ?
[22:23] <czajkowski> bigcalm: popey ^^
[22:41] <AlanBell> czajkowski: 21st september
[22:46] <czajkowski> cool
[22:46] <czajkowski> will poke when I'm back later in the week to Jon and see if he's up for it
[22:59] <mungbean> ali1234: fruits of my gimping: http://ubuntuone.com/6fCKDiQDywLRAnOEttzO2v
[23:11] <ali1234> oh noes engine failure
[23:13] <mungbean> pilot failure too as there's no pilot on that model
[23:13] <ali1234> pilot got out to restart the engine?
[23:14] <mungbean> the kit contained no pilot :(
[23:14] <mungbean> its a tiny little thing irl
[23:14] <ali1234> if you have engine failure in one of those can you restart it by autorotation or are you basically screwed?
[23:15] <mungbean> hmm i was watching a programme about it last year
[23:15] <mungbean> most issues were normally fire. and they didn't wear parachutes because it encouraged them to bale
[23:16] <mungbean> maybe i should add some smoke coming out
[23:19] <ali1234> http://www.flickr.com/photos/34076827@N00/4587719364
[23:21] <mungbean> wowza
[23:28] <mungbean> they've shuffled some planes around at the raf museum, hence i must pay a visit again
[23:28] <mungbean> one of my favourite places


[11:22] <pi3> Guys, I debianized acme-client of OpenBSD OS: https://github.com/baytuch/acme-client
 Nice. That doesn't seem related to Lubuntu development though. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <pi3> Guys, I debianized acme-client of OpenBSD OS: https://github.com/baytuch/acme-client)


[00:15] <AlanBell> http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/05/05/speak-to-me/
[00:15] <AlanBell> hajour: ^^
[00:23] <hajour> ok
[00:24] <hajour> i was busy to get bigger fonts in forum
[00:24] <hajour> got now resolution 92
[00:24] <hajour> by preferences font size 22
[00:25] <MrChrisDruif> DPI of 92
[00:25] <MrChrisDruif> *
[00:25] <hajour> and in chat needed font size 24
[00:25] <hajour> for to be able to read
[00:25] <hajour> but
[00:25] <hajour> i cant click on ok button anymore by normal klick with moused
[00:25] <hajour> mouse
 o yee whoo for further help look at compiz fusion documentation website
 ok website you get
 with really really small fonts
 bodhi_zazen, ^
[00:47] <hajour> AlanBell, ^
[00:48] <hajour> and that is the link used for visual problems to get help
[01:01] <UndiFineD> thanks AlanBell
[01:02] <UndiFineD> btw I just spoke with silver-fox about the accessibility of ubuntuforums.org , let him run it through achecker.ca , he will file a bug tomorrow about it
[01:03] <UndiFineD> the problem is in vbulletin
[01:03] <UndiFineD> and so likely fixing upstream would resolve not only ubuntuforums but any other forum that uses it
[01:04] <MrChrisDruif> Great :D
[01:16] <hajour> great
[01:44] <hajour> i have bdeen by xchat channel
[01:45] <hajour> abd i will get a list from them from what is needed to be change  for accessibility ans some more to get it more improved
[01:45] <hajour> and i mean
[01:45] <hajour> that i can take with me to uds
[01:45] <hajour> now i go sleep
[01:45] <hajour> goodnight all :)
[10:15] <UndiFineD> http://pad.ubuntu.com/4l7eW6J3RT
[10:16] <MrChrisDruif> Making good use of the new pad I see UndiFineD
[10:18] <UndiFineD> :)
[10:19] <UndiFineD> may be the best way to put some focus on it
[10:21] <MrChrisDruif> Yup, just start to use it. Just like paste.ubuntu.com
[10:45] <jbicha> and it's not obvious, but you can pick your own name for a pad, just go to http://paste.ubuntu.com/whatever
[10:45] <jbicha> (that page doesn't exist of course)
[10:47] <UndiFineD> jbicha, you mean like this ? http://pad.ubuntu.com/ep/pad/create?padId=ducksauce
[10:48] <jbicha> yes
[10:51] <JanC> pad.ubuntu.com doesn't seem to work very well here?
[10:57] <webczat> Hey.
[11:06] <AlanBell> JanC: how so?
[11:07] <JanC> it always says it gets disconnect almost immediately...
[11:07] <JanC> """Disconnected.
[11:07] <JanC> Lost connection with the EtherPad synchronization server. This may be due to a loss of network connectivity."""
[11:11] <JanC> hm, seems like restarting Firefox solved this, weird
[11:56] <UndiFineD> I have no idea how to fix speechdispatcher
[11:56] <UndiFineD> client: Speech Dispatcher failed to open: No such file or directory
[11:57] <UndiFineD> if only i knew what file or cennection
[12:11] <AlanBell> UndiFineD: what have you done so far?
[12:13] <UndiFineD> i tried tried several options
[12:13] <UndiFineD> unix vs inet sockets
[12:13] <AlanBell> no, start at the beginning
[12:13] <UndiFineD> turning of espeak and use festival instead
[12:13] <AlanBell> you had a clean install of Ubuntu 10.10?
[12:13] <UndiFineD> never :)
[12:13] <AlanBell> 11.04?
[12:13] <UndiFineD> 10.10
[12:13] <UndiFineD> but never clean
[12:14] <AlanBell> ok, but it is regular gnome Ubuntu
[12:14] <UndiFineD> too much missing apps
[12:14] <UndiFineD> yes
[12:14] <AlanBell> ok, and sound works?
[12:15] <UndiFineD> not on my system, but it does on the laptop for hajour
[12:15] <UndiFineD> 2 soundcards bite eachouther
[12:15] <UndiFineD> but just getting rid of this message would be great
[12:16] <AlanBell> so you have broken sound
[12:16] <AlanBell> it is quite possibly failing to open /dev/dsp or something like that
[12:16] <AlanBell> the sound output device might be the "missing file"
[12:16] <UndiFineD> ls -al /dev/dsp
[12:16] <UndiFineD> ls: cannot access /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[12:16] <UndiFineD> :/
[12:16] <AlanBell> forget speech dispatcher and fix sound first
[12:17] <UndiFineD> ok
[12:17] <AlanBell> yeah, it isn't dsp, I got that bit wrong
[12:17] <AlanBell> but the principal still stands!
[12:20] <MrChrisDruif> Free as in speech is a principal
[12:24] <UndiFineD> removed one soundcard
[12:24] <UndiFineD> but the onboard does not seem to be working
[12:26] <UndiFineD> nothing wrong with alsamixer
[12:28] <UndiFineD>  Card: HDA Intel PCH Chip: Realtek ALC892
[12:49] <popey> UndiFineD: what do you see in /proc/asound/cards ?
[12:50] <UndiFineD> cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:50] <UndiFineD>  0 [PCH            ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
[12:50] <UndiFineD>                       HDA Intel PCH at 0xfa300000 irq 46
[12:50] <UndiFineD>  1 [NVidia         ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
[12:50] <UndiFineD>                       HDA NVidia at 0xfa080000 irq 17
[12:50] <popey> two cards then
[12:50] <UndiFineD> the nvidia is my gpu
[12:50] <UndiFineD> os[Linux 2.6.35-29-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "maverick" 10.10] cpu[8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.60GHz] mem[Physical: 7.8GB, 79.2% free] disk[Total: 1.7TB, 90.3% free] video[nVidia Corporation GF104 [GeForce GTX 460]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH1: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia]
[12:50] <UndiFineD> hdmi
[12:51] <UndiFineD> i also had a creative, but recently all sound stopped
[12:51] <popey> you can use pulse audio mixer to set which is default output device
[12:51] <UndiFineD> yeah that is fine
[12:52] <popey> and what happens when you play something with mplayer for example
[12:52] <popey> a simple wav file
[12:53] <UndiFineD> nothing
[13:16] <AlanBell> !audio
[13:16] <ubot2> If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.
[13:51] <Pendulum> AlanBell: do we have a separate pad for the non-devel stuff that came up at the last meeting (documentation, outreach) or does that still need to be moved from pad.ubuntu-uk.org
[13:55] <AlanBell> needs to be put on the pad I expect
[14:04] <UndiFineD> nothing, i think its dead
[14:04] <UndiFineD> went through all instructions
[14:16] <webczat> AlanBell: anything new about the atk-wrapper?
[14:17] <AlanBell> not really webczat, but I did put it on the list of things to discuss at UDS next week
[14:17] <AlanBell> it needs to get packaged in Debian
[14:17] <webczat> mhm
[14:21] <webczat> I'm wondering if I should install atk-wrapper from source
[14:41] <UndiFineD> oh did anyone try fennec ?
[14:41] <UndiFineD> the accessible mozilla browser
[14:44] <UndiFineD> still very much broken i think, but they try :)
[14:45] <AlanBell> how is it more accessible than firefox?
[14:49] <AlanBell> isn't that just the thing for android?
[14:55] <UndiFineD> yes it is also for mobiles
[15:17] <JanC> Fennec is just Mozilla's mobile browser
[15:18] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha Pendulum :)
[15:18] <Pendulum> hi MrChrisDruif
[15:18] <MrChrisDruif> How's it going?
[15:18] <MrChrisDruif> Long time no "see"
[15:18] <Pendulum> not bad
[15:18] <Pendulum> am on holiday
[15:19] <Pendulum> I've been around, just quiet
[15:19] <Pendulum> and now I'm not so much around for this week and part of next
[15:19] <MrChrisDruif> Alright, can happen :)
[15:19] <Pendulum> :)
[15:19] <MrChrisDruif> We all deserve a vacation from time to time :)
[15:20] <MrChrisDruif> Did you go on vacation (as in going out to a camping or something) or just some time off?
[15:21] <Pendulum> I'm in the UK for 10 days :)
[15:22] <MrChrisDruif> Ahh, so your really close for 10 days :P
[15:22] <MrChrisDruif> I'm in Holland O:-) ;)
[15:22] <Pendulum> :)
[22:08] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha ka po'e alua