[15:49] <pleia2> the mlock line in this documentation isn't correct anymore, does anyone know what the new usage is? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/MovingChannels#Forwarding
[15:50] <pleia2> getting 08:48:44 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Invalid value #newchannel for mode +f.
[15:50] <pleia2> (where #newchannel is the actual newchannel I'm moving things to)
[15:51] <Pici> pleia2: are you opped in #newchannel?
[15:52] <pleia2> ah, no, let me do that
[15:52] <pleia2> (have to log into a shared account for that, doh)
[15:52] <pleia2> so the docs are right, I'm just not following them, woo
[15:53] <Pici> Tis okay, I like easy questions :)
[15:53] <pleia2> thank you :)


[02:03] <Noskcaj> should we have lubuntu as a default in testdrive?
[02:06] <ScottK> Probably a question for -testing
[02:12] <Noskcaj> -testing doesn't exist, -quality gives me no response
[02:19] <ScottK> !weekend
[02:19] <ubot2> It's a weekend. Often on weekends the paid developers and a lot of the community may not be around to answer your question. Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would or try again during the working week.
[02:19] <ScottK> I guess.
[02:19] <Noskcaj> true
[03:29] <ScottK> It looks like the 13.04 beta 1 and beta 2 milestones are still active in LP.  Someone who can should fix that.
[06:53] <ScottK> That ^^^ will fix the nuitka FTBFS, so if I'm not around, someone please retry it after rst2pdf is published.
[06:59] <micahg> would the release team be up for dropping gcj-4.6 at this stage?  2 rdeps, 1 is a sync from experimental (pdftk, needs FFe), 1 is a no change rebuild (postgresql-pljava)
[07:02]  * micahg would go for gcc-4.6, but it seems to need a bit of work
[07:15] <infinity> micahg: I'd be all for it if doko is.
[08:46] <infinity> ScottK: nuitka is still FTBFS.
[08:47] <ScottK> Yeah.  I saw.  Traded one problem for another.
[08:47] <ScottK> The rst2pdf fix was still correct.
[08:47] <ScottK> Not sure what to do about this one.
[08:48] <infinity> I'm going to give the unstable one a spin.
[08:53] <infinity> My hotel network hijacks all port 25 traffic.
[08:53] <infinity> That's a bit creepy.
[08:54] <infinity> At least, that's how I'd interpret the middle hop here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5726823/
[08:55] <ScottK> Common for hotels.
[08:55] <ScottK> Submit on port 587.
[08:56] <infinity> I guess I just never pay attention to headers.
[08:56] <infinity> And yeah, I should switch my laptop to hitting 587 on my server.
[08:56]  * ScottK tries that sleeping thing again ...
[08:57] <infinity> Good luck.
[09:01] <infinity> Bah, new upstream nuitka fails differently again.
[09:17] <infinity> ScottK: I have a fix for nuitka (or, for the last FTBFS I ran into, still finishing the testsuite).
[09:49] <infinity> This is one impressively long testsuite...
[11:20] <phillw> has the iso tracker died? ( http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds )
[11:49] <phillw> it's back :)
[13:28] <ScottK> infinity: Cool.
[18:41] <stgraber> infinity: I created the final milestone on the tracker. Whenever you switch off the dailies on nusakan, just go in the web UI and mark the milestone as "Automatically publish builds listed in the series manifest" (or ping me)
[19:38] <stgraber> yofel: ping
[19:38] <yofel> stgraber: pong
[19:38] <stgraber> yofel: I'm looking at choqok in Unapproved. The changelog says its just a change in orig tarball to fix translations and I indeed see a lot of that in the diff, however I also see two plugins being removed without explanation
[19:39] <stgraber> betternotify and translator
[19:40] <yofel> ok, what happened:
[19:41] <yofel> while I was looking at the translation issue, I noticed that the 1.3 orig tarball that we merged from debian has nothing to do with the choqok-1.3.tar.bz2 released by upstream.
[19:41] <yofel> what debian used instead seems to be some git snapshot from 2 months after release
[19:42] <yofel> that has no translations
[19:42] <yofel> I haven't yet managed to reach the debian maintainer to ask why he did that
[19:43] <yofel> so I went and uploaded the *official* tarball to get this reviewed by Scott (or you now) to clear up what the most sensible way to go is
[19:43] <yofel> at least the betternotify was intentionally not included in the 1.3 release by upstream looking at the git log
[19:44] <yofel> I have yet to look at what happened to translator
[19:45] <stgraber> I went through the whole diff by hand and those two missing plugins are the only thing I noticed that aren't covered in the changelog. So it'd be good to know what kind of impact they'll have so we can decide to either re-introduce them to avoid last minute feature changes, get an FFe or just ignore them as they have no actual impact.
[19:46] <yofel> ok, feel free to reject it then. I'll re-upload once I find out what happened to the other plugin
[20:10] <stgraber> yofel: ok. I'll do that then. Make sure to mention your findings in the changelog of your next upload.
[20:10] <yofel> will do, thanks for reviewing
[23:21] <doko_> Laney, git-annex ftbfs on powerpc


[00:19] <Kazenin> Xubuntu Rulez guys ! yeah! :D
[00:25] <hatake_kakashi> mmk
[03:19] <dbdii407> How in the world do you use Gigolo?
[03:19] <dbdii407> I added an FTP, but it won't open?  Balsaq
[03:38] <Balsaq> welcome back to the land of zoo boon too...
[03:38] <oorah> i got me a 32 inch 1080p vizio, a ps3, and some games
[03:39] <oorah> actually on the box in parentheses it says (31.51" diagonally)
[03:39] <oorah> but i don't feel jipped lol
[03:39] <Balsaq> thats a good one
[03:40] <oorah> yep yep :) vizio very good
[03:52] <oorah> you play games?
[03:53] <Balsaq> no but i buy them for my nephew
[03:53] <Balsaq> i am an asreoids hero
[07:13] <xBrandon> Hey, recently installed xubuntu, but I can't seem to get any icons on my desktop? I try dragging them, but that doesn't work.
[07:13] <xBrandon> Any ideas?
[07:18] <xBrandon> ?
[11:21] <squirrelpimp> hi
[11:23] <squirrelpimp> i'm looking for a way to monitor processes that run on my system for some 30 minutes. Usually i start then and i'd like to become notified upon completion. However i'd prefer some notification area over a popup and i'd also prefer not to mess with the shell starting the process. So the most favourable thing would be having a python script check for process completion and turn some light/knob/website from blue to red/green depending on
[11:23] <squirrelpimp>  the exit code.
[11:23] <squirrelpimp> now the questions: Is there something already implementing this feature? And how can i wait for a process and determine its exit status, if i'm not the parent process?
[12:03] <edson> help meeeeeeeeeeeee
[12:03] <edson> anyone?
[12:04] <Guest8360> can someone please help me?
[12:04] <Guest8360> hellooooo.....?
[12:08] <balvonas> idiot
[12:18] <Guest91348> hello all. have just installed xubuntu9.10. when i want to open stuff from the desktop, or files in the file browser i have to do three click instead of two. anyone seen this before?
[12:38] <knome> balvonas, that's not a very good attitude/manners from you either.
[12:42] <balvonas> i'm a hater what can i say
[14:49] <genoobie> morning all
[14:50] <djura-san> morning
[14:55] <genoobie> oh
[14:56] <genoobie> does OpenOffice require KDE?
[14:56] <djura-san> nope
[14:56] <genoobie> cool, can't wait to install xubuntu
[14:56] <djura-san> but you can use qt if you want for openoffice widgets
[14:56] <djura-san> :)
[14:56] <genoobie> qt?
[14:57] <genoobie> what widgets are you referring to (very little experience here)
[14:57] <genoobie> would you suggest 9.10, or 9.04
[14:57] <genoobie> someone said 9.10 had some bugs
[14:57] <djura-san> aha
[14:57] <djura-san> nothing then
[14:57] <genoobie> my laptop is 256MB + 800 MHz processor, xubuntu would be okay?
[14:57] <djura-san> just install openoffice and go :)
[14:57] <djura-san> it should be but
[14:58] <djura-san> use alternate install
[14:58] <genoobie> oh, b/c the installer is resource intensive?
[14:58] <djura-san> desktop installation requires a little mre ram
[14:58] <djura-san> yeah and no
[14:59] <djura-san> if you use gui installer then there is requrement for that (i belive its 256 but its minimum). for text install there is 128 mb ram or less nedded
[14:59] <djura-san> :)
[14:59] <genoobie> so you say don't install the desktop?
[14:59] <djura-san> no
[14:59] <genoobie> okay understood
[14:59] <djura-san> install desktop but in another way
[14:59] <genoobie> gotcha
[14:59] <djura-san> you candonwload xubuntu 9.10 alternet disk :)
[14:59] <djura-san> *download
[14:59] <djura-san> *alternate
[15:00] <genoobie> let me try that (I'll be Ok with text installer)
[15:00] <genoobie> debating on buying ram to upgrade to 512MB
[15:01] <genoobie> system should run reasonably well on 256 tho no>
[15:01] <genoobie> ?
[15:01] <djura-san> i think so
[15:01] <djura-san> i have 512mb of ram and it runs nice
[15:01] <djura-san> but im not sure for 256
[15:01] <genoobie> def. fster than windows
[15:02] <djura-san> if its slow then use zenwalk since its faster than xubuntu :)
[15:02] <genoobie> last quest, can you point me to the alt install dist?
[15:02] <djura-san> yes
[15:02] <genoobie> zenwalk hmm?
[15:02] <djura-san> one sec please
[15:03] <djura-san> sorry
[15:03] <djura-san> wait
[15:03] <djura-san> on xubuntu site it says it is enoug 192 mb of ram for live disk install
[15:03] <djura-san> hmm
[15:03] <djura-san> maybe its true.
[15:03] <djura-san> check this out
[15:03] <djura-san> http://www.xubuntu.org/get
[15:04] <djura-san> ps. here is alternate xubuntu discs: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/karmic/release/alternate/
[15:04] <djura-san> *here are
[15:04] <genoobie> ok
[15:04] <genoobie> have you used zenwalk?
[15:04] <genoobie> is it >> faster than zenwalk
[15:05] <djura-san> yes i have
[15:05] <genoobie> I mean is it >> faster than xubuntu?
[15:05] <djura-san> zenwalk is faster than xubuntu
[15:05] <genoobie> how is the hardware detection?
[15:05] <genoobie> =?
[15:05] <djura-san> not >> but >
[15:05] <djura-san> well
[15:05] <djura-san> go ti #zenwalk
[15:05] <djura-san> *to
[15:05] <djura-san> ask there (we will not flame here)
[15:06] <genoobie> so I'd probably be better off with xubuntu as a first go, then try zenwalk when I'm comfortable
[15:06] <djura-san> yes
[15:06] <djura-san> that is nice resolve
[15:06] <djura-san> :)
[15:07] <genoobie> okay then, I'll bbl
[15:07] <genoobie> downloading now
[15:07] <djura-san> dont forget to use torrent so you can share xubuntu with other leches :)
[16:37] <mikubuntu> am i in?  don't see any chatter ..
[16:38] <djura-san> :)
[16:38] <mikubuntu> k, thx
[16:38] <mikubuntu> waiting for a friend, gonna help her install here
[16:38] <djura-san> okay then
[16:38] <djura-san> im here and so are many friends :)
[16:39] <Ov3rf10w> yea :)
[17:50] <emmy> some sort of system messages aren't showing up correctly.
[17:51] <emmy> It is like the place I would see a dialog box of some kind, it just shows up as a black rectangle like it won't draw to the screen.
[18:09] <mikubuntu> guys i stopped the update manager midstream and now have a milion error messages .. is that a job for 'autoremove' corrupted files?
[18:09] <djura-san> no
[18:09] <djura-san> apt-get install -f
[18:09] <djura-san> then use autoremove
[18:11] <mikubuntu> sudo apt-get install -f  ??
[18:12] <djura-san> da
[18:12] <djura-san> sorry. yes
[18:12] <mikubuntu> djura-san, and then    sudo apt-get autoremove   ??
[18:13] <djura-san> yes
[18:13] <djura-san> try it
[18:13] <djura-san> or you can manually remove apps that are conflicting
[18:13] <djura-san> but its better to use "-f" option in apt-get
[18:13] <djura-san> :)
[18:15] <mikubuntu> ok, thanks, i'm helping someone remote also, and i think i overloaded the synaptic installer
[18:15] <mikubuntu> be back soon i'm sure, thx again
[18:16] <emmy> does anyone know why xubuntu would have odd graphics for me
[18:19] <djura-san> emmy it can be many things.
[18:19] <djura-san> this looks like notifier error
[18:20] <djura-san> so you can disable it
[18:20] <djura-san> tell us, when can you see those "odd" graphics
[18:20] <djura-san> ?
[18:20] <djura-san> what do you do to produce them?
[18:22] <emmy> djura-san, seems i see it in association with what I assume are messages from network manager, but possibly other notifications.
[18:22] <djura-san> yeah
[18:22] <djura-san> that is notification error
[18:22] <djura-san> so you can remove it but
[18:22] <emmy> where I *assume* a notification would be, or some other dialog, instead I see a black rectangle with some static in it.
[18:22] <djura-san> tell me is there any graphic drivers on your system?
[18:22] <emmy> not sure
[18:23] <emmy> i don't remember installing any..
[18:23] <djura-san> that is the problem
[18:23] <djura-san> you saee
[18:23] <djura-san> that notification thing is configured to work with composite efects by default
[18:24] <emmy> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M6 LY
[18:24] <emmy> that's my video card.
[18:24] <emmy> is there a way to turn off or to fix something there
[18:24] <djura-san> yes
[18:24] <djura-san> let me check
[18:25] <emmy> oh thankyou
[18:26] <djura-san> use
[18:26] <djura-san> her it is
[18:26] <djura-san> *herer
[18:26] <djura-san> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1360080
[18:27] <djura-san> it will do the tricks
[18:27] <djura-san> *trick
[18:27] <emmy> sorry xchat froze up
[18:27] <emmy> djura-san,
[18:28] <djura-san> okay
[18:28] <djura-san> see this page
[18:28] <djura-san> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1360080
[18:28] <djura-san> there is solution
[18:28] <emmy> thanks
[18:33] <emmy> djura-san, do you know why xubuntu 9.10 can let me use wifi when it's not encrypted but it can't work with even wep ?
[18:33] <djura-san> nope
[18:33] <djura-san> im not familiar with wifi
[18:33] <emmy> hm, it's very tricky on linux. it never really works.
[18:33] <djura-san> ask in #ubuntu
[18:33] <djura-san> there must be a way
[18:33] <djura-san> :)
[18:36] <Sysi> maybe driver is just bad
[18:38] <emmy> i'm sure it isn't any good but how do you get a better one


[17:57] <cih187> Hello, I am unable to boot under PXE with a CentOS image. It seems the grub command is not correctly set. it is trying to access <maas-address>/images/centos/amd64/ga-18.04/8/no-such-image/squashfs instead of <maas>/address/images/centos/amd64/generic/8/stable/root-tgz
[17:58] <cih187> any help is appreciated :)


[00:04] <coreycb> vorlon: ok I'll take a look at that
[00:04] <coreycb> thank you
[00:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rsync (bionic-proposed/main) [3.1.2-2.1ubuntu1.1 => 3.1.2-2.1ubuntu1.2] (core)
[00:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rsync (focal-proposed/main) [3.1.3-8 => 3.1.3-8ubuntu0.1] (core, i386-whitelist)
[08:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cockpit-machines (focal-backports/universe) [250-1~ubuntu20.04.1 => 255-1~ubuntu20.04.1] (no packageset)
[08:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cockpit-machines (impish-backports/universe) [251-1 => 255-1~ubuntu21.10.1] (no packageset)
[09:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-meta (impish-proposed/main) [1.472 => 1.473] (core)
[09:22] <didrocks> sorry, autotyping, purging from impish and reuploading to jammy ^
[09:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ubuntu-meta [source] (impish-proposed) [1.473]
[10:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: linux-firmware-xilinx-ap1302 (jammy-proposed/primary) [2020.2.2-0ubuntu1]
[11:48] <juliank> So, I converted the autopkgtest dashboard to now show a abnormal exit rate instead of both normal and abnormal exit graphs in the per-arch view (https://ubuntu-release.kpi.ubuntu.com/d/76Oe_0-Gz/autopkgtest?orgId=1&refresh=10s&from=now-7d&to=now)
[11:48] <juliank> This means we don't see throughput, I probably should have a throughput panel
[11:53] <juliank> The ppc64el error rate is fascinating
[11:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted oem-somerville-maester-meta [sync] (focal-proposed) [20.04~ubuntu1]
[11:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted oem-stella.cmit-eevee-meta [sync] (focal-proposed) [20.04~ubuntu2]
[11:58] <juliank> an error rate of ~10% seems normal
[11:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: oem-somerville-maester-meta [amd64] (focal-proposed/none) [20.04~ubuntu1] (canonical-oem-metapackages)
[12:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ruby3.0 [amd64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [3.0.2-5ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[12:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted oem-stella.cmit-ivysaur-meta [sync] (focal-proposed) [20.04~ubuntu2]
[12:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mutter [source] (impish-proposed) [40.5-1ubuntu3~21.10.1]
[12:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mutter [source] (focal-proposed) [3.36.9-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[12:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qemu (impish-proposed/main) [1:6.0+dfsg-2expubuntu1 => 1:6.0+dfsg-2expubuntu1.1] (ubuntu-server, virt)
[14:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mutter (hirsute-proposed/main) [3.38.4-1ubuntu2 => 3.38.4-1ubuntu3~21.04.01] (desktop-core, desktop-extra)
[15:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mutter (hirsute-proposed/main) [3.38.4-1ubuntu2 => 3.38.4-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (desktop-core, desktop-extra)
[15:17] <Trevinho> sil2100: ^
[15:19] <sil2100> Trevinho: thank you!
[15:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected mutter [source] (hirsute-proposed) [3.38.4-1ubuntu3~21.04.01]
[15:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mutter [source] (hirsute-proposed) [3.38.4-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[15:22] <RikMills> could someone please accept the new ruby3.0 binary. thanks
[15:25] <doko> done
[15:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ruby3.0 [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [3.0.2-5ubuntu1]
[15:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libadwaita-1 [sync] (jammy-proposed) [1.0.0~alpha.2-1]
[15:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted php-pecl-http [arm64] (jammy-proposed) [4.0.0+3.2.4+2.6.0-0+deb11u1ubuntu1]
[15:26] <RikMills> ty :)
[15:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted php-pecl-http [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed) [4.0.0+3.2.4+2.6.0-0+deb11u1ubuntu1]
[15:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted php-pecl-http [s390x] (jammy-proposed) [4.0.0+3.2.4+2.6.0-0+deb11u1ubuntu1]
[15:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted php-pecl-http [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [4.0.0+3.2.4+2.6.0-0+deb11u1ubuntu1]
[15:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted php-pecl-http [riscv64] (jammy-proposed) [4.0.0+3.2.4+2.6.0-0+deb11u1ubuntu1]
[15:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted php-pecl-http [armhf] (jammy-proposed) [4.0.0+3.2.4+2.6.0-0+deb11u1ubuntu1]
[15:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sosreport [source] (focal-proposed) [4.2-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[15:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted php-imagick [amd64] (jammy-proposed) [3.4.4+php8.0+3.4.4-2+deb11u2ubuntu3]
[15:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted php-imagick [armhf] (jammy-proposed) [3.4.4+php8.0+3.4.4-2+deb11u2ubuntu3]
[15:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted php-imagick [riscv64] (jammy-proposed) [3.4.4+php8.0+3.4.4-2+deb11u2ubuntu3]
[15:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted php-imagick [arm64] (jammy-proposed) [3.4.4+php8.0+3.4.4-2+deb11u2ubuntu3]
[15:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted php-imagick [s390x] (jammy-proposed) [3.4.4+php8.0+3.4.4-2+deb11u2ubuntu3]
[15:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted php-imagick [ppc64el] (jammy-proposed) [3.4.4+php8.0+3.4.4-2+deb11u2ubuntu3]
[15:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-dev-tools (hirsute-backports/universe) [0.180 => 0.185~bpo21.04.1] (no packageset)
[15:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ubuntu-dev-tools [source] (hirsute-backports) [0.185~bpo21.04.1]
[15:29] <ricotz> sil2100, hello :), would be available to look at the libreoffice SRU for hirsute today? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1948933
[15:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-dev-tools (hirsute-backports/universe) [0.180 => 0.185~bpo21.04.1] (no packageset)
[15:30] <sil2100> ricotz: sure! Opening it up now o/
[15:31] <ricotz> sil2100, great, I am currently uploading the source package, still takes a few minutes
[15:31] <sil2100> ricotz: hmmm, I don't see it in the queue
[15:31] <sil2100> Aaah, ok!
[15:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libadwaita-1 [s390x] (jammy-proposed/none) [1.0.0~alpha.2-1] (no packageset)
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[15:55] <ricotz> sil2100, there it is now ^ :)
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[15:57] <kanashiro> sil2100, could you please check if we are good to land all the packages involved in #1943049 and #1938908? I believe everything is ready
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[16:52] <sil2100> kanashiro: one moment o/
[16:57] <sil2100> kanashiro: nice, from the first look yes, you are correct - let me double check and release \o/
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[18:41] <kanashiro> sil2100, ty!
[19:02] <ricotz> sil2100, thank you!
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[10:04] <ephan> I think my country's translating team is a bit dead
[10:04] <ephan> I contacted them and got no response
[10:33] <dpm> well, can't get response from us staying in the channel only 7 min...
[10:53] <TLE> dpm: it doesn't really matter how many times that happen, it keeps being annoying
[11:06] <dpm> yeah :)
[14:47] <sagaci> hi, along with that localisation blueprint, I was just thinking that it'd be an awful lot of work/effort for something like the en_AU team to have a specialised ISO - but I was just wondering if it would be better remedied for us to have something like an ubuntu-au package that had translations, -au artwork, documentation that could be installable via ubiquity or prompted on the desktop
[14:54] <dpm> sagaci, I'd recommend you to talk to skaet, who's currently working on that blueprint
[14:54] <sagaci> righteo


[18:07] <KL4BR-Brandin> Hello, is there anyone in here that is familiar with outbox configuration with Thunderbird?


[00:29] <asac> heh
[00:29] <asac> did you look what is broken?
[00:29] <asac> file a bug maybe?
[00:32] <fta> i did, there's a raw ^A and it must be escaped
[00:34] <fta> why do we depend on psmisc?
[00:40] <fta> asac, fennec pushed
[00:43] <fta> asac, so, ff3.2? any progress?
[00:48] <asac> fta: yes. i think i found it ... i hope in 20 minutes
[00:48] <asac> i know if its the prob
[00:48] <asac> given that xterm seems to be boosty for my build i hope it will happen in that time
[00:49] <asac> at least the fix seems to be used
[00:49] <asac> now we have to wait for final link
[00:51] <asac> too bad ... one more start ;)
[00:52]  * asac shouldnt work in a hacked tree ;)
[00:52] <Nafallo> xmas tree!
[00:53] <asac> argh
[00:53] <asac> i hate me
[00:53] <asac> i just cluttered my build tree
[00:53] <asac> is there a hg clean-tree?
[00:53] <asac> anyway ... restarting build was wrong ;)
[00:53] <asac> i looked in wrong tree ... time wasted
[00:57] <asac> lets hope the build hurries ;)
[01:00] <asac> fta: fennec to universe ;)?
[01:00] <asac> good
[01:01] <fta> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+queue
[01:04] <asac> fta: is there a copyright file in top level?
[01:04] <asac> ;)
[01:04] <asac> just to be sure
[01:04] <asac> or LICENSE or whatever
[01:06] <fta> no, everything is in debian/copyright
[01:06] <fta> it's tri-licensed, as usual
[01:06] <asac> we need it in top level dir of orig
[01:07] <asac> we had 3 rejections because of that
[01:07] <asac> in the last two weeks
[01:07] <fta> we?
[01:07] <asac> mozillateam (extensions) doesnt fennec include that
[01:07] <asac> ?
[01:07] <fta> no
[01:08] <asac> fta: where is the fennec hg?
[01:09] <fta> asac, http://hg.mozilla.org/mobile-browser/
[01:13] <asac> yeah most likely will be rejected then ... at least if riddell sees it ;)
[01:13] <asac> filed mozilla bu g471474
[01:13] <asac> filed mozilla bug 471474
[01:14] <asac> darn this build takes ages still
[01:14] <asac> hurry, hurry
[01:14] <fta> it will not be toplevel anyway, xulapp adds a level as the build system is top level
[01:15] <asac> fta: well ... thats not so important
[01:15] <asac> build ssytem should ship a LICENSE_buildsystem file too though
[01:16] <asac> which says which license the build system parts have and then explicitly refers to the directory that is built
[01:16] <asac> for more LICENSE information
[01:16] <fta> all files have their license in the header
[01:16] <asac> yes... but thats uncertainty
[01:16] <asac> ;)
[01:16] <asac> and images for instance usually dont have a license either
[01:16] <asac> so they are covered by the general TREE license
[01:17] <asac> fta: i am not the one who wants to be hard about it :) ... archive-admins dont like the idea to wade through a zillion of source files to check whether they are all free ;)
[01:20] <fta> well, at least lintian should complain or something
[01:21] <fta> we'll see. if upstream doesn't provide one, why should it be my fault?
[01:22] <asac> have you checked lintian output on the source package?
[01:24] <asac> fta: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=354765
[01:24] <asac> fta: your fault would be that you uploaded a tarball without license ;) ... instead we should have asked upstream to include it first, and then upload :)
[01:24] <asac> though the faultis quite marginal ;)
[01:25] <asac> my fault is that i didnt care before ;)
[01:25] <asac> but maybe its just riddell ... in the end upstream will include it i am sure ;)
[01:25] <asac> so as long as we dont loose the ball on that we could let it into the archive imo
[01:25] <asac> but thats not my decision ;)
[01:25] <asac> a bit of a lottery.
[01:26] <asac> riddel will say no ... pitti ... not sure. maybe yes. seb ... probably yes (but not sure either)
[01:26] <asac> doko probably doesnt look at universe packages ;)
[01:26] <asac> the others in archive-admin are probably not really active atm
[01:27] <asac> ah hobbsee ... but she only does kde stuff i think
[01:28] <asac> fta: will you integrate the patch in to tree? or shall i?
[01:28] <asac> if you could do that i would be happy ;)
[01:29] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/95533/
[01:30] <fta> asac, integrate which patch?
[01:30] <asac> fta: the patch i posted to the trunk build bug
[01:30] <asac> fta: try lintian on the .dsc
[01:31] <asac> hmm
[01:31] <asac> well probably doesnt make a difference
[01:31] <fta> asac, trust me, i did: http://paste.ubuntu.com/95534/
[01:31] <asac> yeah ... so if we get another reject due to this, we should file a lintian bug
[01:31] <asac> yeah
[01:31] <asac> fta: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=354765
[01:31] <asac> please confirm that the build works so i can request review
[01:35] <fta> trying
[01:35] <fta> as for fennec, i packaged it Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:18:07 +0200 and no one complained
[01:36] <asac> wasnt in the archive
[01:36] <asac> ;)
[01:38] <fta> is that patch complete ??
[01:38] <asac> yes should be
[01:38] <asac> what is missing?
[01:38] <fta> looks like it addresses zlib, but not the other libs
[01:38] <asac> for me the build succeeded
[01:38] <asac> where do you see zlib?
[01:38] <asac> its not even mentioned in the patch ... is it?
[01:39] <asac> it fixes https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471359#c1
[01:39] <fta> patching file js/src/config/Makefile.in
[01:39] <fta> patching file js/src/configure.in
[01:39] <fta> patching file modules/zlib/standalone/Makefile.in
[01:39] <fta> Reversed (or previously applied) patch detected!  Assume -R? [n]
[01:40] <asac> fta: heh
[01:40] <asac> yeah i accidentially included our system zlib patch ;)
[01:41] <asac> now i am a bit buff
[01:41] <asac> not sure what to do
[01:41] <asac> i think that patch also belongs there
[01:42] <fta> who did the zlib one?
[01:43] <fta> you did it, it's your call then
[01:43] <fta> bzXXX, bad asac
[01:44] <fta> building..
[01:45] <asac> yes
[01:45] <asac> i reattached without it
[01:45] <asac> its a different built failure
[01:45] <asac> can you drop it and then see that firefox build fails? ;)
[01:45] <asac> nevermind
[01:46] <asac> or if you want you can do that ;) ... would be good to verify whether thats still an issue at all (though i think it is)
[01:58] <fta> crimsun, donno if it's p-a but now, mplayer is jerky, it plays fine for a while, then slows down & speeds up a few times, then pauses, it's unwatchable
[02:11] <crimsun> fta: ok, will investigate. is mplayer using -ao alsa or -ao pulse?
[02:11] <fta> ao=alsa
[02:12] <fta> pulse is/was even worse
[02:13] <fta> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu.com/95564/
[02:14] <fta> crimsun, sometimes, i have to set af=volume=20.1:0 to hear something, especially those .mkv files
[02:15] <crimsun> fta: interesting, thanks
[02:16] <fta> crimsun, it's even more than sometimes, i should have said often, i even have a button in my panel to toggle that pref
[02:16] <fta> perl -i -pe 'if (m,(.*?)(af=volume.*),) { if ($1) { s,^$1,, } else { s,^,#, }}'  $HOME/.mplayer/config  :)
[02:16] <crimsun> hmm, i wonder if it has to do with the mixing
[02:17] <crimsun> i know i spotted an error in the downmixing of channels yesterday; i'll try and generate a new ppa build tonight/tomorrow
[02:17] <fta> i have a 5.1 system that i never got to work, i'm using it as a 2.1 :((
[02:19] <fta> crimsun, ^^ + http://paste.ubuntu.com/95568/
[02:20] <crimsun> ah, you'd have to modify /etc/pulse/default.pa use load-module module-alsa-sink device=surround51
[02:20] <crimsun> that generally means losing hal hotplugging for audio devices, tho' :/
[02:21] <crimsun> although i do have some hacks from hardy that i could forwardport, but i'd rather just fix module-alsa-* to not race on device release
[02:22] <fta> it's a desktop, the only things i hotplug are usb keys/drives or my gps, i don't mind loosing hotplugging for audio devices
[02:48] <crimsun> fta: yes, but others likely will =)
[02:52] <fta> sure
[02:52] <asac> true ... the mob is never happy ;)
[02:52] <asac> they always want "advanced" features ;) ... like hotplugging etc. :: insane :-P
[11:44] <white> fta: i was told you should be asked for thunderbird/icedove 3.0 packages? :)
[11:46] <asac> white: yeah ... so basically what you want is to start with bzr branch lp:~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird-3.0.head
[11:46] <asac> and make a icedove branch out of it ... e.g. by renaming the package et al
[11:47] <asac> next it comes to branding ... there are two options: a) make a "update-orig" rule in debian/rules that replaces tbird with icedove branding
[11:47] <asac> or convince fta to include the hook to produce proper icedove orig.tar.gz in mozilla-devscripts
[11:47] <asac> though i thihnk most logic should nowadays go to the packaging and not -devscripts
[11:52] <white> asac: ok thanks, i'll start looking at it
[11:55] <white> asac: is there a plan to let icedove and icedove-3.0 coexist? I am just wondering, because of the new binary package names
[11:56] <asac> white: yes that should work.
[11:57] <asac> its even a different source package name
[11:57] <white> ok, i am just a bit surprised
[12:00] <asac> white: in ubuntu we ship preview stuff in parallel
[12:00] <asac> with stable stuff
[12:00] <white> ah ok, do you intend to do the same for icdeove in debian?
[12:01] <asac> not sure .... but i am sure that its ok to use the same versioning scheme ... and do a transition if we dont do that
[12:04] <asac> white: are you planning to do a production release based on 3?
[12:05] <white> asac: it would be nice to have it in experimental and then just rebuild it to get a backport, e.g. for lenny
[12:06] <white> so possibly productive on lenny, yes
[12:07] <BUGabundo_work> fta: ping
[12:07] <BUGabundo_work> ff3.1 and 3.2 are segfaulting!
[12:07] <BUGabundo_work> and only 3.0 is starting
[12:08] <armin76> blame asac
[12:08] <BUGabundo_work> ehhhe
[12:08]  * BUGabundo_work blames asac of FF segfault! :p
[12:08] <asac> BUGabundo_work: how do the segfault?
[12:08] <BUGabundo_work> armin76: done
[12:08] <BUGabundo_work> $ firefox-3.1
[12:09] <BUGabundo_work> results in a single line: "Segmentation Fault"
[12:09] <asac> fta: we need -dbg packages everywhere again ;)
[12:09] <asac> didnt you do that yet?
[12:09] <BUGabundo_work> ahh but a NEW ff3.0 windows opens up
[12:10] <asac> sounds like jemalloc
[12:10] <BUGabundo_work> so it seems fta referted his change
[12:10] <BUGabundo_work> that made my FF3,1 not allow 3.0 to open
[12:10] <BUGabundo_work> and now 3.1 segfaults and opens 3,0
[12:10]  * BUGabundo_work reads apt logs
[12:11] <BUGabundo_work> I only see an update of 3.1 to 3.2 and xulrunner 1.9.2
[12:11] <BUGabundo_work> I don't have debug symbols to install to provide more data! :(
[12:14] <asac> its a miserable situation with the -dbgsym things
[12:16] <BUGabundo_work> yeah
[12:16] <BUGabundo_work> aint there even a version on archive?
[12:16] <BUGabundo_work> for jaunty version?
[12:17] <asac> BUGabundo_work: yes try the jaunty thing for 3.1
[12:18] <BUGabundo_work> but I have 3.1 from ppa
[12:19] <BUGabundo_work> its a higher verstion
[12:19] <BUGabundo_work> should I downgrade to archive?
[12:19] <asac> i would think so yes
[12:19]  * BUGabundo_work opens synaptic
[12:20] <BUGabundo_work> going to beta 2 and then instaling debug symbols
[12:23] <BUGabundo> asac: firefox-3.1-dbgsym:
[12:23] <BUGabundo>   Depends: firefox-3.1 (=3.1~b2+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1) but 3.1~b3~hg20081227r22500+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1 is to be installed
[12:27] <asac> --force-depends
[12:27] <asac> hmm ... try if downgrading makese the segfault go away
 so it seems fta referted his change <= no, i didn't, yet
 fta: we need -dbg packages everywhere again ;) <= we have them for 3.1 and 3.2
[12:44] <asac> BUGabundo: ^^
[12:44] <asac> ;)
[12:44] <asac> fta: thx
[12:45] <asac> fta: tbird 3 too?
[12:45] <fta> hm, yes
[12:45] <fta> no
[12:46] <asac> @time new_york
[12:50] <fta> no segfault here with 3.2
[13:12] <asac> fta: so i assume the patch was ok?
[13:13] <asac> ok found comment on bug thanks
[13:16] <asac> if i only knew what exactly is going on with the menu thing
[13:17] <asac> is there a hg clean-tree?
[13:17] <asac> help
[13:18] <fta> you have a revert but it's not what you want
[13:19] <fta> make clean is probably what you need :)
[13:20] <asac> yeah ... let me try that
[13:20] <asac> i thin make -f client.mk clean also removes .mozconfig
[13:20] <asac> better backup that somewhere
[13:26] <fta> so now, all 3 firefox versions open a new window from the current one disregarding the version instead of starting from scratch.
[13:26] <fta> bad
[13:27] <fta> they ignore the profile
[13:28] <BUGabundo_work> fta: back from lunch
[13:28] <BUGabundo_work> well FF3.1 and 3.2 aree seg faulting when FF3.0 is open. haven't tested with it closed
[13:29] <BUGabundo_work> can't install debug symbols for 3.1 with the error above
[13:29] <BUGabundo>   Depends: firefox-3.1 (=3.1~b2+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1) but 3.1~b3~hg20081227r22500+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~fta1 is to be installed
[13:29] <fta> the segfault appears *after* the new window is open so it doesn't matter. the issue is that it's the same version.
[13:30] <fta> firefox-3.1-dbg ?
[13:30] <fta> not -dbgsym
[13:30] <BUGabundo_work> opening 3.2 with all FF closes opens it OK
[13:30] <fta> yep
[13:30] <BUGabundo> nsHeaderInfo: registerSelf called!
[13:31] <BUGabundo> ~$ firefox-3.1  bash: firefox-3.1: command not found
[13:31] <BUGabundo> LOLOL
[13:31] <fta> ?
[13:34] <fta> please pastebin: sh -x /usr/bin/firefox-3.1
[13:35] <BUGabundo> sh: Can't open /usr/bin/firefox-3.1
[13:36] <fta> BUGabundo, then you no longer have the firefox-3.1 package installed
[13:36] <BUGabundo> humm
[13:36] <BUGabundo> yes!
[13:36] <BUGabundo> I think it removed when I tried to install debug symbols
[13:36] <BUGabundo> and it failed to downgrade
[13:36] <BUGabundo> instaling again
[13:39] <BUGabundo> fta: http://paste.ubuntu.com/95955/
[13:39] <BUGabundo> $ firefox-3.1 Segmentation fault
[13:41] <fta> ok, but i guess your back trace is no more helpful then mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/95956/
[13:41] <fta> than
[13:41] <asac> BUGabundo: you have some extension that provides chrome://dragdropupload/...
[13:42] <asac> Welcome to jslib version 0.1.90
[13:42] <asac> how do youz get that?
[13:42] <fta> http://jslib.mozdev.org/
[13:43] <asac> yeah probably included by extension then
[13:43] <asac> dump that
[13:43] <asac> or disable it BUGabundo ^^
[13:43] <fta> i'd say it's looking for misery
[13:43] <BUGabundo_work> humm
[13:43] <BUGabundo_work> didn't even knew I had it !
[13:43]  * BUGabundo_work looks at it
[13:44] <asac> actually i dont see a segfaultin the paste
[13:44] <BUGabundo_work> asac: I can't find that addon!!!
[13:44] <asac> BUGabundo_work: disable all ;)
[13:44] <fta> asac, do you know which part of the code is handling the new window thing ? i guess there's a bug in there as it ignores the profile
[13:44] <BUGabundo_work> asac: the pastebin is of the script fta asked
[13:44] <asac> fta: XRemote stuff
[13:44] <BUGabundo_work> WITH all FF closed!
[13:45] <asac> fta: there is client and server side
[13:45] <BUGabundo_work> segfault is of 3,1 after I had 3,0 opened
[13:45] <BUGabundo_work> asac: If I wanted a NO ADDON browser I would go with chrome
[13:45] <asac> fta: /nsGTKRemoteService.cpp
[13:46] <asac> and widget/src/xremoteclient
[13:46] <asac> XRemoteClient::SendCommand
[13:47] <asac> fta: my guess would be that it somehow takes only the string part up to / to build the X property
[13:47] <asac> which identifies the running instance
[13:47] <BUGabundo_work> guys, ping me if you need anything more! brb
[13:48] <asac> BUGabundo_work: answer what i asked for
[13:48] <asac> why dont you disable all addons?
[13:48] <fta> asac, but the thing is i start with exec /usr/lib/firefox-3.1b3pre/firefox-3.1
[13:48] <asac> its important to figure stuff out
[13:48] <asac> thanks
[13:48] <BUGabundo_work> asac: for 3.1?
[13:48] <asac> fta: what difference does it make
[13:49] <BUGabundo_work> ok' ill do it!
[13:49]  * BUGabundo_work mumbes something
[13:49] <asac> BUGabundo_work: whereever it crashes dude
[13:49] <asac> ;)
[13:49] <asac> identifying the root cause is the right way to debug stuff
[13:49] <fta> oh, i thought you talked about $0
[13:49] <asac> and if an extension is the root cause we need to know which
[13:49] <fta> i need to run, see you in a few hours
[13:49] <asac> fta: no i am talking about the code that finds the window
[13:49] <asac> ;)
[13:50] <asac> and sends a X command to "openwindow" to it
[13:50] <asac> ;)
[13:50] <fta> i see that now. maybe there's already a bug for that
[13:50] <asac> unlikely
[13:51] <asac> people probably dont try to use that mechanism that much as we do ;)
[13:52] <asac> BUGabundo_work: so ;)
[13:52] <asac> did it help yet?
[13:55] <fta> damn, it's raining and it's -1°C, i'm looking for troubles too
[13:56] <BUGabundo_work> havenmt tried!
[13:56] <BUGabundo_work> lots of work to do
[13:56] <BUGabundo_work> last day of work before laid off!
[13:56] <BUGabundo_work> teaching new admin
[13:56] <asac> sure
[14:25] <asac> fta: so how does the application.ini for 3.1 and 3.2 (in your ppa) now look like?
[17:05] <BUGabundo_work> guys, have a nice happy new year!
[18:00] <fta> asac, just a Profile field in [App]: http://paste.ubuntu.com/96138/
[18:38] <asac> fta: profile is new in 3.1?
[18:39] <asac> (i mean code wise)
[18:39] <fta> not sure
[18:40] <asac> most likely ... even if not we have no profile set
[18:40] <asac> so its a bug in code
[18:41] <fta> by default, there's no Profile field, even in trunk
[18:44] <asac> yes
[18:44] <asac> fta: how did you get the idea to do that?
[18:45] <fta> songbird
[18:45] <asac> e.g. adding Profile=..
[18:45] <asac> ok
[18:45] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/96167/
[18:45] <asac> fta<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[18:46] <fta> yes
[18:55] <asac> fta: so profile is the "profile" name which is != THE appData->profile thing ;)
[18:55] <asac> e.g. cannot be used for this
[18:56] <asac> either we have to add a new property to the window (e.g. profilePath ... or something) or we cannot use it
[19:00] <asac> i think we should do that for trunk anway
[19:00] <asac> will prepare a patch
[19:05] <asac> but now have to pick up gf
[23:25] <asac> [reed]: so tbird was relesaed today ... thats definitly new milestone in crazyness ;)
[23:25] <asac> i mean: everybody thought this will go out next week when we went to holiday
[23:26] <asac> then while on holidays for no real reason the release gets fast-pathed and pushed the day before public-holiday (e.g. same as friday release)
[23:27] <crimsun> awesome. that means at least half the mozilla-thunderbird bugs go poof!
[23:27] <asac> huh?
[23:27] <asac> ;)
[23:27] <asac> ah you mean firefworks ;)
[23:28] <asac> probably nobody will complain if email is broken new year ;)
[23:32] <crimsun> =)
[23:48] <fta> poor asac ;)


[01:32]  * sagaci throws a rock down the long tunnel
[01:37] <sagaci> I know the latest focus is for the oneiric cycle, but is it somehow possible to create a version for the precise cycle?
[01:38] <sagaci> or just get the oneiric version and rename everything to precise


[04:03]  * OngTro`iCon đi ăn cơm
[06:08] <zorin-os> how do i aquire xlocale.h
[06:12] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:05] <zorin-os> what debian packages do i need to compile a modified version of gcc
[08:11] <gaobin> 为什么我的网络能登录qq，但是打不开网页
[08:11] <gaobin> 太操蛋了
[08:12] <zorin-os> lol
[08:13] <gaobin> 是dns的问题吗
[08:13] <lordievader> !cn | gaobin
[10:11] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:06] <user|48558> dupa actoalizare nu mai am sonor
[14:12] <hateball> !it | user|48558
[14:32] <ryanpcmcquen> My headphone out has no audio (Kubuntu 17.04).
[14:33] <ryanpcmcquen> Any ideas?
[14:33] <ryanpcmcquen> I have checked all levels, in the tray icon settings as well as in `alsamixer`.
[14:33] <ryanpcmcquen> Nothing is muted.
[14:33] <ryanpcmcquen> Tried rebooting.
[14:35] <hateball> and it's actually set as the output device for the stream?
[14:35] <hateball> it should do it automatically, but you never know
[14:35] <ryanpcmcquen> Yes.
[14:36] <ryanpcmcquen> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/JrsZ2Joq/Screenshot_20170816_073608.png
[14:37] <ryanpcmcquen> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/7ayLOZZh/Screenshot_20170816_073716.png
[14:37] <pineapplelover_> hello
[14:37] <pineapplelover_> I bought a cd and can only play it with totem
[14:38] <pineapplelover_> I would like to play it with amarok...
[14:41] <pineapplelover_> and this is what I get when choosing play media: http://pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=118014
[14:41] <ryanpcmcquen> hateball, do those screenshots look correct?
[14:41] <pineapplelover_> none of the tracks are playable this way nor folders??
[14:43] <hateball> ryanpcmcquen: yep looks correct
[14:43] <hateball> ryanpcmcquen: has it worked in the past? is this a fresh install?
[14:44] <ryanpcmcquen> hateball, this is a relatively fresh install.
[14:45] <ryanpcmcquen> hateball, it did work before updates.
[14:45] <ryanpcmcquen> hateball, this also happened on a previous install of Kubuntu 17.04.
[14:45] <hateball> pineapplelover_: it doesnt list the cd in the left panel?
[14:45] <ryanpcmcquen> hateball: I ended up switching to Kubuntu 17.10 to see if that fixed the issue (it did), but that release was too buggy for me for everyday use.
[14:45] <hateball> ryanpcmcquen: suppose you could reboot and pick an older kernel in grub if it's a kernel regression
[14:46] <hateball> but if it's a plasma/mixer related thing... that's hard to revert
[14:46] <pineapplelover_> oh
[14:46] <pineapplelover_> it does
[14:46] <pineapplelover_> it is playable
[14:46] <ryanpcmcquen> hateball, thank you, I will try that.
[14:46] <pineapplelover_> sorry my bad
[14:46] <hateball> pineapplelover_: :)
[14:46] <hateball> it's all good
[15:13] <pineapplelover> no not good
[15:13] <pineapplelover> hateball
[15:14] <pineapplelover> it only plays the first song
[15:14] <pineapplelover> for all the tracks
[15:14] <pineapplelover> I can see the track names and duration but always the same song
[15:14] <pineapplelover> grrrrr!
[15:14] <pineapplelover> it is annoying
[15:15] <pineapplelover> I added the album to the play list...it lists all the songs on the right
[15:16] <pineapplelover> but all songs are the first one
[15:35] <hateball> pineapplelover: cant say I have used amarok recently I am afraid, you're gonna have to play around with it or wait til someone else knows
[15:36] <hateball> pineapplelover: there is also #amarok
[15:36] <genii> Probably your best bet, yes
[15:37] <pineapplelover> okay thanks anyway
[15:55] <anton_p> hi ppl. after some upgrade i lost ctrl+shift keyboard shortcuts because i use c+s for keyboard layout switching. but it was working many years! my kubuntu is 16.04 LTS
[15:55] <anton_p> is it known problem?
[16:18] <anton_p> found it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/1683383
[16:22] <anton_p> oh m g... the solution is to compile xorg with the patch by myself...
[16:24] <anton_p> so, is there a "good" xorg server with applied patch?