[03:50] <bbigras__> What rights are required to upload a package to natty-proposed?
[03:54] <micahg> bbigras__: upload right to the package in natty
[03:54] <micahg> *rights
[03:55] <bbigras__> micahg: thanks
[04:07] <micahg> bbigras__: need anything sponsored?
[04:08] <bbigras__> micahg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lfm/+bug/786491 I just wonder if my patch does too much. I think the only proble is with the "mtime2" line. Also it seems the bug affects both natty and lucid.
[04:11] <bbigras__> micahg: The bug is fixed in Oneiric.
[04:12] <micahg> bbigras__: is that enough to fix it?
[04:12] <micahg> ah, you got both pieces, nm
[04:14] <micahg> bbigras__: upstream did the fix, just add dep-3 headers and I think you're good, have you confirmed that fixes the crash?
[04:18] <bbigras__> micahg: Yes it fixes the crash on my side. How do you add dep-3 headers?
[04:20] <micahg> bbigras__: dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/
[04:23] <bbigras__> micahg: Is the dep-3 headers required for Ubuntu or to send to Debian or both?
[04:23] <micahg> bbigras__: we like them in Ubuntu, it helps keep track of where stuff comes from
[04:25] <bbigras__> micahg: Ok thanks. One last thing, can I also attach a patch for Lucid on the same bug report or I should open another one?
[04:29] <micahg> bbigras__: same report is fine, should go in maverick as well in that case
[04:29] <bbigras__> micahg: ok thanks!
[04:30] <micahg> bbigras__: is there a bug confirming this in maverick and lucid as well, I'll add a task for natty now
[04:31] <bbigras__> micahg: There's only one bug. The guy had Lucid. I reproduced it on Natty.
[04:32] <micahg> bbigras__: that bug says natty :)
[04:38] <bbigras__> micahg: oh sorry I was confused by "InstallationMedia". I think it doesn't affects Lucid since I can't reproduce the bug with 2.1 from mercurial. Maverick should be affected since it has the same version as Natty.
[04:39] <micahg> bbigras__: sounds good, BTW, you'll need to adjust the changelog version for multiple releases (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdatePreparation#Update_the_packaging (look at the blue box)
[04:44] <bbigras__> micahg: ok thanks
[04:45] <micahg> bbigras__: thank you for the fix :), please subscribe ubuntu-sponsors when you're done
[04:51] <bbigras__> micahg: Is it possible that you send me the wrong link? I don't see the blue box at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdatePreparation#Update_the_packaging
[04:52] <micahg> bbigras__: oh, sorry, whatever color the box with the versions is :)
[05:38] <bbigras__> micahg: By "adjust the changelog version for multiple releases" do you mean I need to append ~maverick in the maverick changelog since both chanlogs can't have the same version or that I can have one changelog for both release?
[05:40] <micahg> bbigras__: use $VERSION.0.XX.YY.1 where XX.YY is the release number
[05:40] <micahg> oops
[05:40] <micahg> that should be $VERSIONubuntu0.XX.YY.1
[05:41] <bbigras__> micahg: I see, thanks.
[06:50] <micahg> can anyone actually get mk-build-deps -ir work?
[13:39] <thelinuxer1> hi, i am trying to  requestsync a package I built in Debian unstable. http://packages.debian.org/sid/gdigi
[13:39] <thelinuxer1> I use the following command: requestsync --lp -s -d sid gdigi
[13:40] <thelinuxer1> and get this error E: The package 'gdigi' does not exist in the Debian primary archive in 'sid'
[13:41] <thelinuxer1> I event tried running the code requestsync uses to get the source package and it gets the package information correctly
[13:42] <geser> thelinuxer1: requestsync --lp uses the Launchpad "mirror" of Debian which is undergoing some changes currently (more precisely the script doing the mirroring)
[13:43] <geser> it looks like the LP Debian mirror doesn't know gdigi yet
[13:44] <geser> did you look at the code which uses LP API (--lp) or rmadison only (default)?
[13:45] <geser> and btw: we are in FeatureFreeze currently which means no new packages (unless you have an exception)
[13:45] <thelinuxer1> geser: i was going to just request the sync now. Don't really care when it will be synced :)
[13:46] <thelinuxer1> no i haven't checked the lp api and rmadison code
[13:46] <geser> we will autosync at the start of the next development cycle
[13:46] <thelinuxer1> i just want to make sure that i am not doing anything wrong
[13:46] <geser> no need to file a sync request if it shouldn't happen now
[13:46] <thelinuxer1> geser: ok gr8, thank u
[13:47] <thelinuxer1> geser: and i will still be the maintainer on ubuntu ?
[13:50] <geser> you can be (but there is no Maintainer-lock in Ubuntu as in Debian). You can maintain your package in Debian and sync it to Ubuntu (preferred), get your uploads sponsored to Ubuntu (e.g. Ubuntu-specific changes which don't apply for Debian) and get upload rights for your package(s) (PerPackageUpload (PPU) rights) if you want
[13:55] <geser> thelinuxer1: if you have any questions about Ubuntu processes feel free to ask
[14:03] <thelinuxer1> geser: I chose the first path as it was mentioned in REVU wiki page. I guess what ur saying is that I will do all the work on debian side, and then it's pulled into ubuntu automatically.
[14:04] <thelinuxer1> so no work from my side in ubuntu's side
[14:06] <geser> thelinuxer1: yes, you might need to file a sync request as we only automatically sync packages from Debian in the first few weeks of a development cycle, after that and till FeatureFreeze syncs only happen if someone requested them
[14:08] <thelinuxer1> i guess i will wait as I don't think I will able to get an exception for this package ...
[14:21] <geser> it's very unlikely to get an exception for a new package at this time (we want to release end of October). Expect to see your package get synced early November (it takes a couple days after release till the archive set up and the new toolchain uploaded)
[14:24] <thelinuxer1> geser: thanks for your help :)
[22:00] <dupondje> Its still possible to sync package from debian at this stage?
[22:00] <dtchen> yes.
[22:01] <dupondje> just a requestsync or ? :)
[22:01] <dtchen> that's one way, yes.
[22:01] <dupondje> other is ?
[22:02] <dtchen> manually filing the bug with a web browser ;)
[22:02] <dtchen> asking an archive admin ;)
[22:02] <dtchen> etc.
[22:04] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/roundcube/+bug/853515
[22:04] <dupondje> there it is :D
[22:05] <dtchen> dupondje: for the sake of time, do you have debc output as well? If not, I can generate it in about an hour.
[22:06] <dupondje> debc ? :)
[22:07] <dtchen> dupondje: e.g., debc foo_1.1_amd64.changes
[22:13] <dupondje> debc: no appropriate .debs found in the changes file roundcube_0.5.4+dfsg-1_source.changes!
[22:13] <dupondje> bleh :s
[22:16] <dupondje> attached :)
[22:32] <dtchen> dupondje: thanks


[00:09] <akgraner> Thank you!
[00:10] <akgraner> No worries - it's ready when it's ready :-)  JoseeAntonioR  - I don't stress about it anymore :-)
[00:10] <akgraner> ps - neither should you...:-)
[00:12] <JoseeAntonioR> :P
[00:12] <JoseeAntonioR> well, at least is out
[00:13] <akgraner> :-)
[00:22] <akgraner> JoseeAntonioR, are you still editing
[00:22] <JoseeAntonioR> akgraner: nope
[00:22] <akgraner> it says you are :-)
[00:22] <JoseeAntonioR> refresh, I always forget to close that page
[00:22] <JoseeAntonioR> sorry about that
[00:22] <akgraner> hehe
[00:22] <akgraner> no worries
[00:24] <akgraner> published
[00:25] <JoseeAntonioR> yay!
[00:25] <JoseeAntonioR> are we having one more issue?
[00:27] <akgraner> What do you mean - like an ebook issue?  or Issues as in problems?
[00:28] <JoseeAntonioR> like, issue 289
[00:28] <akgraner> yeah - fixing the wiki now
[00:29] <akgraner> The better way to ask is - hey you going to update the wiki or did you forget
[00:29] <akgraner> :-P
[00:29] <JoseeAntonioR> lol, no, I meant if we're taking care of the next releasing
[00:30] <akgraner> yeah - I'm sure pleia2 and I will help from Copenhagen as well - we've published from UDS before as a way to teach people how to
[00:31] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, then :)
[00:31] <akgraner> sorry - I was totaly confused :-)
[00:32] <JoseeAntonioR> no prob
[02:25] <JoseeAntonioR> will be working on the openweek announcement in a few mins
[02:38] <JoseeAntonioR> akgraner: think you can review the post?
[02:43] <JoseeAntonioR> nhandler: hey, wb!
[06:21] <pleia2> I get home on Thursday, so I'll be able to help then - early morning saturday, then from UDS
[07:03] <dholbach> good morning
[14:06] <akgraner> JoseeAntonioR, did you get the post reviewed - sorry I didn't see your ping earlier
[14:07] <akgraner> also my session is tomorrow right?  And can I do it on Air or are you all not doing any open week sessions on Air (sorry I'm getting ready for UDS and Connect and life is crazy) :-)
[19:43] <akgraner> JoseeAntonioR, is this the only place you posted this? If so we don't need to put the cite line on the bottom
[19:44] <akgraner> however if you posted this anywhere else you need to add "posted here" and link to it.  If not we just need to remove the cite and publish it.
[20:04] <Silverlion> hey there
[20:05] <Silverlion> anybody there
[20:06] <holstein> here?
[20:07] <Silverlion> aloha holstein
[20:07] <Silverlion> i am embarrased
[20:13] <holstein> Silverlion: yeah?
[20:13] <holstein> whats up?
[20:14] <Silverlion> holstein just saw the results of my last nights Hangout with AKGraner
[20:14] <Silverlion> and i really messed it in my opinion
[20:21] <Silverlion> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJGEQpzRgj8 @ holstein
[20:59] <akgraner> Silverlion, why?
[21:00] <akgraner> I thought it was great - all things considered...go back an look at my early ones - :-/
[21:00] <Silverlion> akgraner: because i was not able to show what i wanted to
[21:01] <akgraner> oh..but - we can follow-up :-)
[21:01] <akgraner> but if the point was to teach me how to do this - then that goal was achieved
[21:01] <Silverlion> *g* but guess we need to wait another three years until you have a slot for me :p
[21:01] <Silverlion> *hides*
[21:02] <akgraner> :-P
[21:04] <Unit193> Didn't watch the entire thing, but you've never compiled *anything*??
[21:06] <Silverlion> akgraner: any questions left?
[21:08] <akgraner> Unit193, I did but not on the video
[21:09] <akgraner> we would have been there for hours - I did post the link to  the commands and what you have todo to compile Sigil and run it
[21:09] <Unit193> You said you hadn't before, that is.
[21:09] <akgraner> Compiling Sigil was the first compile I've ever done
[21:15] <holstein> Silverlion: i think its fine
[21:15] <holstein> you did good... you need a light :)
[21:15] <Silverlion> holstein: did you understand everything or are there any questions leftß
[21:15] <Silverlion> ?
[21:16] <holstein> Silverlion: well, i dont know what you guys are talking about, so i cant comment on that
[21:16] <holstein> if i wanted to get into it, i think i could learn from that though
[21:17] <Silverlion> holstein: i wanted to give an introduction of my work at the Full Circle Magazine Ebook
[21:18] <holstein> Silverlion: i think its good... what i have heard so far
[21:18] <holstein> i'll have to listen to it later
[21:18] <Silverlion> akgraner: i sent a tweet to daniel holbach in Berlin ... he liked it as well ;)
[21:18] <akgraner> :-)
[21:19] <akgraner> yeah he's a good guy!
[21:19] <Silverlion> akgraner: are you serious with the follow up?
[21:21] <akgraner> If it's needed- let's see if other people who are trying to use it run into questions they need answered
[21:22] <akgraner> But I am pretty sure I will have some follow-up
[21:25] <Silverlion> akgraner: if i can help I am more then willing to stay up long again on a friday / saturday if i dont need to work the day after ;)
[21:25] <akgraner> Silverlion, I'll be headed to Copenhagen
[21:25] <Silverlion> akgraner: AFTERWARDS :p
[21:25] <akgraner> but thank you for offering  - I won't be able to do this again until after 3 Nov sometime
[21:26] <Silverlion> akgraner: my mum get's surgery on nov 6th ... so from nov 7th on everything is possible :D
[21:27] <akgraner> roger that - best of luck to your mom
[21:57] <Silverlion> akgraner: gn8
[22:07] <JoseeAntonioR> akgraner: I posted it in the Classroom blog
[22:07] <JoseeAntonioR> akgraner: and on-air sessions are on Friday :S
[22:07] <akgraner> k
[22:07] <akgraner> no worries
[22:07] <akgraner> can you drop me the link to the other post here
[22:07] <JoseeAntonioR> sure
[22:07] <akgraner> and I'll fix it and get it posted
[22:07] <JoseeAntonioR> oooh, forgot to put the here link
[22:07] <JoseeAntonioR> akgraner: https://ubuntuclassroom.wordpress.com/2012/10/23/615/
[22:12] <JoseeAntonioR> akgraner: need a fix on the post
[22:13] <akgraner> you can fix it if you want
[22:13] <akgraner> I am finishing a hang out
[22:18] <JoseeAntonioR> done
[22:19] <akgraner> published
[22:20] <JoseeAntonioR> thanks
[22:20] <akgraner> yw


[10:12] <ak_dev> Hello, a small doubt, is there any way to exchange info via a relation between two units of a subordinate charm, which are under two different principal charms?
[11:35] <tvansteenburgh> ak_dev: have you tried using a peer relation?
[11:38] <ak_dev> hey, thanks for the reply, I looked at peer relations and couldn't find any example as to how to implement it, but if thats the way to go, then will keep looking :-)
[11:44] <tvansteenburgh> ak_dev: here's an example of a peer relation implementation https://github.com/juju-solutions/layer-tls
[11:44] <tvansteenburgh> nope sorry
[11:45] <tvansteenburgh> this one https://github.com/juju-solutions/interface-tls
[11:45] <tvansteenburgh> the first link is a charm layer that uses it
[11:46] <ak_dev> tvansteenburgh: thanks a lot for that, exactly what I was looking for!
[11:47] <tvansteenburgh> ak_dev: np, i found those by searching for 'peer' on this page http://interfaces.juju.solutions/
[11:48] <ak_dev> tvansteenburgh: oh, thats what even I should have done probably, don't know why it didn't strike me


[10:21] <Jean-Paul> Hi
[10:21] <Jean-Paul> I've got a question
[10:22] <Jean-Paul> in 7.04 how easy is it actually to install the java jdk?
[10:22] <Jean-Paul> (maybe a stupid question...)
[10:23] <AfC> Jean-Paul: (perhaps, but nevertheless ultimately the only question that matters)
[10:24] <Jean-Paul> which is why I'm asking it regardless of it's high ranking in the srupid-o-meter ;-)
[10:24] <man-di> Jean-Paul: aptitude install sun-java6-sdk
[10:24] <man-di> done
[10:24] <Jean-Paul> that easy?  thanks!
[10:24] <man-di> yes
[10:25] <Jean-Paul> bye, I've gotta go
[10:25] <AfC> To think that Sun could have had that 8 years ago if they'd just fixed the [binary redistribution]  licence.
[10:25] <man-di> yeah, AfC


[06:38] <Guest3> Hello, can it be that the sha256 code for "kubuntu-24.04-desktop-amd64.iso" on https://kubuntu.org/alternative-downloads/ missing the last tow chars? ec3db0c5179556a9f5ff0895c57935ed1789612459e42558c24387b3b0b19b(0c)
[09:18] <dreamhawk> If i want to reinstall or switch distros, kubuntu -> lubuntu | ubuntu etc.. How is that done in the most painless way? I have backups of my home-folder
[09:18] <dreamhawk> Or if i simply want to blow out my kubuntu-install and go fresh... But simply get most of my settings back in order
[10:54] <bombastick> dreamhawk: you can apt install lubuntu-desktop, no? Then pick a different option at login. The Kubuntu apps will remain on your computer, though.
[10:54] <bombastick> until you apt remove kubuntu-desktop
[11:16] <dreamhawk> bombastick: yes thats a possibility, but was thinking if someone switch from (xyz)buntu to Debian f.ex
[11:19] <bombastick> your home/settings should be portable, the only question mark is for improbably differences, like Kubuntu 24.04 is newer than Debian Bookworm so those config files are created by newer software, and might contain options unreadable by old versions. But this shouldn't be an issue for almost any standard tools.
[11:20] <dreamhawk> bombastick: Thats right, such inconveniences have to be handled manually... In general i was just curious how people switch distros "easily", where some describes it as "i just backup and export my home-dir"... :D
[11:24] <bombastick> I think it really is that easy, so go ahead and do it
[11:25] <bombastick> if a specific tool doesnt keep your settings, reconfigure it
[11:29] <dreamhawk> bombastick: Curious to try, but will find some way to clone my disk first, just in case :P
[12:05] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[16:31] <marlon2210> HELLO
[17:04] <webchat38> Hello having an issue burning a Kubuntu 24.04 install iso. It shows an error page with image uses Grub 2.12 but only includes files for Grub 2.06 error. Will burning the ios as is work?
[18:27] <valorie> btw sha256 code has been updated on the kub. website
[18:27] <valorie> we're in the midst of rolling out a new, lighter site, sorry for the glitches
[18:29] <oerheks> valorie, and the download url?
[18:29] <oerheks> https://kubuntu.org/alternative-downloads/
[18:29] <valorie> webchat38: have you filed a bug about his?
[18:30] <valorie> oerheks: yes I think that typo has been fixed too
[18:30] <oerheks> Kubuntu 24.04 LTS (64-bit) gives https://kubuntu.org/alternative-downloads/_wp_link_placeholder
[18:30] <valorie> right, waiting for the changes to make it through the internet
[18:30] <oerheks> https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/24.04/release/kubuntu-24.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[18:31] <valorie> much of the team was on holiday or at linuxfestNW or traveling to/from after the release
[18:31] <valorie> unfortunate timing
[18:31] <oerheks> np, glad i catch you here
[18:32] <valorie> my travel lappy doesn't do IRC well, nor does the college wifi deal well enough with a mass of geeks and their wifi-hungry devices
[18:49] <oerheks> Oracular Oriole 24.10
[18:58] <mparillo> I just updated the bit torrent link. It should propagate within an hour or two.
[19:05] <bprompt> ahemm, one may note the release date was 5 days ago, but I guess that was the "party date" for the pre-release
[20:27] <oerheks> url updated, nice
[20:47] <Elliria> Hey there. Does anyone know where I can find Kubuntu manifests?
[20:48] <oerheks> on cdimage https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/24.04/release/
[20:49] <oerheks> last url
[20:49] <Elliria> Oh, thank you! I tried everything I could think of on Google and didn't manage to turn it up. Found some old ones, though. Heh.
[20:49] <oerheks> have fun!
[20:54] <Elliria> Wheeeeeeeeeeeee! That gave me this, which creates a list of the default packages: https://bpa.st/EHTA
[20:55] <bprompt> hmmmm, methinks I better issue the same command using Elliria's line shamelessly :P
[20:57] <Elliria> Heh. I tested it and it can be changed to 22.04 to get that manifest, so it should be scalable into the future.
[21:02] <bprompt> Elliria: let version="24.04";  ....... cdimage https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/$version/release/    :P
[21:05] <Elliria> Heh. Sorcery!
[21:09] <Elliria> Ubuntu default packages for comparison: https://bpa.st/JRNA


[00:26] <greg-g> people who pre-flush toilets/urinals confuse and annoy me
[00:28] <rick_h_> lol
[00:30] <brousch> Spiders
[00:30] <brousch> They might be lurking in there
[04:03] <snap-l> greg-g: Fate Core ( a very cool Fudge-variant) just hit their stretch goal to make the released rules CC-licensed.
[04:03] <snap-l> They're shooting for just CC-BY so it doesn't enforce share-alike
[04:59] <greg-g> snap-l: cool
[11:50] <rick_h_> morning
[11:57] <brousch> yes
[11:57] <brousch> Damn google and their new community stuff
[11:57] <brousch> Now I have pages and communities to tend
[11:59] <rick_h_> ugh, this new pricing for google apps for your domwin is going to suck
[12:01] <brousch> Ut oh, I haven't seen that
[12:02] <rick_h_> couple of posts on HN about google apps stopping free signups and only one user on the 'free' tier
[12:08] <brousch> I don't think I use it for anything right now
[12:08] <brousch> Work already pays
[12:09] <rick_h_> Ah, I use it for my wife and I and our personal stuff, few other times when I needed an email setup for a domain I owned
[12:13] <brousch> In the past I used it for GRPUG
[12:17] <brousch> outtie
[12:42] <snap-l> GOod morning
[12:42] <rick_h_> morn
[12:42] <snap-l> rick_h_: How much for the domains pricing?
[12:43] <snap-l> apps for domains, rather
[12:43] <rick_h_> $50/user/yr
[12:44] <rick_h_> I just need to close down some I don't really use
[12:44] <snap-l> That's not outrageous, but it's $100 you probably didn't want to spend. :)
[12:44] <rick_h_> like I think I setup one for lococast
[12:44] <snap-l> Ah, didn't know that
[12:44] <rick_h_> right, I'll spend #100 for my wife and I, but I setup an account for my brother he never logged into
[12:44] <rick_h_> and I setup for a few other domains so they had an email addy and forarded them to my personal email
[12:44] <snap-l> Yeah, those are cheaper to just have mail forwarders
[12:45] <snap-l> I think most domain registrars will do that.
[12:45] <rick_h_> yea
[12:45] <rick_h_> it's all good, just going to have to clean house before I get a $400 bill from google
[12:45] <brousch> It looks like dumped all of mine except work about 6 months ago, so I'm all set
[12:45] <rick_h_> well :P to you
[12:46] <brousch> muahahaha
[12:48] <brousch> Hm, I think you can use a Google+ Page to create a community
[12:50] <brousch> snap-l: When you get a few minutes, see if you can switch to the ubuntu-mi page and then create the ubuntu-mi community as the page
[12:50] <rick_h_> so wtf does a 'community' get me?
[12:50] <rick_h_> I'm being spammed all day with it
[12:51] <rick_h_> there, created
[12:51] <rick_h_> heh, it needs some love from snap-l though to get the image and such
[12:52] <brousch> So for an existing group, it looks like you should use the page to create the community
[12:52] <snap-l> I can't create communities from a page
[12:52] <rick_h_> I did, on the left side
[12:52] <rick_h_> there's a new 'community' thing next to photos, etc
[12:52] <brousch> The creator is the owner. If you make it as your personal profile you become th owner
[12:53] <brousch> Ah, but you can promote members to owners, good
[12:55] <brousch> So since I am an owner of the ubuntu-mi page, I can now edit the ubuntu-mi community rick_h_ created
[12:55] <snap-l> I created one too.
[12:58] <snap-l> That's weird, it didn't send me an invite
[12:59] <snap-l> OK< I deleted RIck's community, and substituted my own. ;)
[13:00] <rick_h_> oh fine then
[13:00] <snap-l> Yeah, I suck
[13:01] <brousch> Heh.I was trying to add the logo to rick_h_'s and it was erroring
[13:26] <_stink_> rick_h_: according to http://googleenterprise.blogspot.com/ , existing users of google apps won't see a change.  did you see anything else that makes you think you'll get a bill suddenly?
[13:26]  * brousch quickly signs up his 20 domains
[13:29] <rick_h_> _stink_: ah no, I just assumed end of year I'd have to straighten up for next year
[13:29] <rick_h_> _stink_: you doc reading person you :P
[13:29] <_stink_> hehe
[13:30] <_stink_> well you got me spooked, of course
[13:30] <_stink_> imagining telling my mom to abandon her email address, yikes
[13:31] <rick_h_> heh, well you'd just host it elsewhere and migrate the email over
[13:31] <rick_h_> the address wouldn't change
[13:32] <_stink_> well, she has like two others
[13:32] <_stink_> so i nthis case
[13:32] <_stink_> i *would* tell her to abandon it.
[13:32] <rick_h_> lol
[13:49] <snap-l> I swear, 6 ping pong balls, and Pixel would be golden
[13:52] <rick_h_> snap-l: lol that reads strange on twitter
[13:53] <rick_h_> careful with that auto blog->twitter feed
[13:53] <snap-l> Yeah, I think I might turn that off
[13:53] <snap-l> it works better on identi.ca
[13:55] <brousch> I used to do that, but the automated posts looked stupid so I stopped
[14:07] <snap-l> jcastro_: Dude, if Metallica became a cover band, I would be OK with that
[14:07] <jcastro_> heh
[14:07]  * snap-l is listening to Garage Inc.
[14:07] <jcastro_> yeah!
[14:07] <jcastro_> mercyful fate coverband
[14:07] <jcastro_> I would be ok with that
[14:07] <snap-l> Second disc, though
[14:09] <jcastro_> http://www.invisibleoranges.com/2011/01/metallica-and-justice-for-all-just-the-bass/
[14:09] <jcastro_> fyi found the isolated bass lines
[14:09] <snap-l> Ah, cool
[14:27] <jjesse> man i'm soo not looking forward to flying w/ completely blocked sinuses
[14:27] <jjesse> the change in pressure might cause my head to explode
[14:28] <rick_h_> ugh, last time I did that it took 2 days for my head to decompress. That was the most painful ear popping ever
[14:28] <rick_h_> ...but I'm sure it'll be peachy for you...my bad :P
[14:29] <jjesse> lol
[14:31] <snap-l> heh
[14:37] <jcastro_> snap-l: man, sadness is listening to the proper tracks, knowing I've been playing horrible transcriptions of what is really the rhythmb guitar for these songs.
[14:37] <jcastro_> now I listen to the real tracks and the real bass line is totally different
[14:58] <snap-l> jcastro_: Yeah, I've had the same thing with ghost notes and Neil Peart's drum tracks
[14:58] <snap-l> Watching him play has been rather revealing.
[14:58] <snap-l> and those are good recordings. ;)
[15:10] <jrwren> ouch https://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do
[15:12] <brousch> rick_h_ is tracking my web searches?!
[15:13] <jrwren> yup. he is a spy. Harding, Rick harding, 007.
[15:13] <rick_h_> yep...I know what you...oh right you don't use unity/dash so nope
[15:13] <jrwren> that is an octal literal
[15:13] <rick_h_> 003 thank you very much. Much better number than 007
[15:13] <jrwren> dash? like /usr/bin/dash?
[15:13] <rick_h_> no, unity dash
[15:14] <jrwren> err, /bin/dash rather. ok, whew. everything in the default posix shell would be pretty bad.
[15:14] <rick_h_> that thingy that comes up when you press Mod4 for those default unity users
[15:14] <rick_h_> :P
[15:14] <brousch> Kubuntu will keep your prying eyes out of my fetishes
[15:14] <rick_h_> that's next. Hook into your locate/find commands
[15:14] <jrwren> mod4? is that the ubuntu key on my system76?
[15:14] <rick_h_> should be
[15:14] <rick_h_> meta, mod4, 'windows key'
[15:14] <jrwren> meta is different though, because ESC is usually meta.
[15:15] <jrwren> and ALT if you have the right TERM
[15:15] <rick_h_> well, 2 our of 3 ain't bad
[15:15] <jrwren> I think someone submitted a patch for find that makes it search inet
[15:35] <jrwren> i do question motive behind the inet search integration
[15:35] <jrwren> although I certainly don't agree with rms.
[15:40] <jrwren> Oh Snap http://sfy.co/bBpu #storify
[15:42] <brousch> I like jcastro_'s reply
[15:43] <jrwren> which?
[15:43] <jrwren> snap-l: ever listen to Balanescu Quartet ?
[15:44] <brousch> On the link you just posted
[15:44] <snap-l> Yeah, I love the "OMG, you have a sliver in your hand.
[15:44] <snap-l> jrwren: Not yet.
[15:46] <jrwren> OSX doesn't send my info anywhere. i can confirm this by sniffing packets.
[15:46] <jrwren> in this sense, OSX respects my privacy more than ubuntu ootb.
[15:49] <snap-l> It just doesn't respect your privacy once you start using it. ;)
[15:50] <snap-l> But yes, point taken.
[15:50] <jrwren> i don't see how it does not respect my privacy once I start using it.
[15:50] <jrwren> Now once I login to icloud... yup, all my data uploaded to them.
[15:50] <snap-l> iTunes recommendations
[15:50] <jrwren> that assumes I use itunes.
[15:51] <jrwren> and that is also an excellent point.
[15:51] <snap-l> If you're on a Mac and not using iTunes, you have more willpower than most
[15:51] <jrwren> i only use itunes ot sync my phone.
[15:51] <jrwren> i use squeeze to listen to music.
[15:51] <jrwren> I'm listening via squeeze right now :)
[15:51] <snap-l> Me too
[15:51] <jrwren> really great Leonard Cohen track.
[15:51] <snap-l> and publishing to Last.fm
[15:51] <jrwren> same
[18:09] <snap-l> I hate it when I discount an album just because the description doesn't say "metal"
[18:09] <snap-l> http://magnatune.com/artists/breaker
[18:09] <snap-l> I should know better
[18:10] <snap-l> Reminds me a lot of Die So Fluid
[18:10] <snap-l> with a little more grunge
[18:53] <rick_h_> wow http://techcrunch.com/2012/12/07/dropbox-guido-van-rossum-python/
[18:53] <jrwren> nice
[18:55] <brousch> whoa
[18:57] <widox> you gotta wonder what he's going to say about their existing code when he joins Dropbox
[18:58] <brousch> Makes me a bit more nervous about using Google App Engine
[18:58] <rick_h_> he got sick of you asking him for newer python on GAE and just quit
[18:58] <brousch> heh
[18:59] <brousch> they do move slow
[18:59] <brousch> I actually don't have anything running on GAE right now
[18:59] <brousch> Django pulled me away
[19:01] <jrwren> he has seen dropboxes code.
[19:02] <rick_h_> yea, I'm guessing he's gotten to see whatever he wants before signing
[19:09] <jrwren> no no.
[19:09] <jrwren> i mean years ago.
[19:09] <jrwren> he helped dropbox with some of their obfuscation stuff
[19:09] <jrwren> because yes, db is python, but they also don't want to just ship .py or .pyc
[19:12] <rick_h_> ah
[19:14] <jcastro_> yeah it like downloads itself on installation
[19:15] <jcastro_> and it's python but it's not like you can browse .dropbox-dist and check out the client
[19:48] <jrwren> would be sweet to use pypy to prejit x86 instructions and then ship that
[21:17] <jcastro_> haham hey greg-g, around?
[21:45] <greg-g> jcastro_: kinda, calling att now
[21:56] <jcastro_> http://i.imgur.com/5Ufm9.jpg
[21:56] <jcastro_> greg-g: I couldn't help it but think of AA
[22:01] <greg-g> hah, nice
[22:26] <jrwren> i'm over here fucking raging at autotools.
[22:27] <jrwren> i can feel my blood pressure rising.


[07:56] <DeadS0ul> ever seen teh video of bill gate's commentary on vista with mac OS X instead of Vista
[07:56] <RadiantFire> Alot of stuff in Solaris 10 is borrowed from FreeBSD
[07:57] <RadiantFire> like their contained cells are whatever is modelled after BSD jails
[07:57] <carlos_> _clem: would u say something? < _clem> carlos_ : I suggest
[07:57] <DeadS0ul> BSD jails or OpenBSD jails?
[07:58] <nostrahungry> im thinking of trying vista sometime this week
[07:58] <DeadS0ul> _clem: sounds liek crap
[07:58] <nostrahungry> when i have time to mess around a little more
[07:58] <RadiantFire> DeadS0ul: I can't remember
[07:58] <DeadS0ul> RadiantFire: ah well
[07:58] <RadiantFire> I thought they were FreeBSD, but I could see them having come from OpenBSD
[07:58] <bahbahbah> RadiantFire: Really? Solaris borrowed from BSD? I thought it was the other way around.
[07:59] <_clem> carlos_ : my mistake.. I was about to say something then changed my mind and pressed enter by mistake.. (about using Debian Testing on your server)
[08:00] <carlos_> _clem: ohh.. ok, no problem..
[08:00] <_clem> sure everybody borrows from FreeBSD.
[08:00] <carlos_> actualy, it is not a server... :D
[08:00] <ctothej> how can i set kde to automatically enable numlock on boot?
[08:00] <carlos_> sometime I need mysql, apache, and something like this.. and I really dont want to mix it with my desktop
[08:00] <baby> hi guys i just installed dapper and when i rebooted it the desktop didnt come first but then i changed the consoles so finally could find it so how can fix it?
[08:00] <carlos_> but nothing used for anyone but me!!
[08:00] <DeadS0ul> ctothej: set it up in your bios
[08:01] <bahbahbah> baby: huh?
[08:01] <ctothej> DeadS0ul: ohh, hmm, ill have to check it out. thanks.
[08:01] <nostrahungry> how can i smash linux with a hammer without damaging my pc
[08:01] <nostrahungry> grrrr
[08:01] <RadiantFire> lol, what did it do?
[08:01] <_clem> lol
[08:01] <nostrahungry> nothing i need it too
[08:01] <nostrahungry> LOL
[08:01] <nostrahungry> thats it....im going to the book store in a bit
[08:02] <DeadS0ul> nostrahungry: you install windows Me over it
[08:02] <_clem> carlos_ : Debian Testing is a great experience if you haven't tried it already.
[08:02] <RadiantFire> not ME
[08:02] <nostrahungry> lol
[08:02] <RadiantFire> ewww!
[08:02] <DeadS0ul> I'll stick with sarge thank you
[08:02] <carlos_> _clem: yup, my website runs under debian.. :D
[08:02] <DeadS0ul> I used debian side for a while
[08:02] <carlos_> I like slackware too, as server
[08:02] <carlos_> that is what I use at work
[08:03] <nostrahungry> i was told by someone to learn with linspire
[08:03] <_clem> definitely.. I miss APT in Slackware though.
[08:03] <nostrahungry> ever heard of it?
[08:03] <DeadS0ul> yeah
[08:03] <DeadS0ul> don't bother iwth it
[08:03] <RadiantFire> I tinkered with slackware
[08:03] <_clem> well Freespire will be released in a month or so. Free version of Linspire.
[08:03] <RadiantFire> it didn't last long
[08:03] <DeadS0ul> go kubuntu or ubuntu, debian, fc
[08:03] <carlos_> _clem: there's a tool called swaret
[08:03] <RadiantFire> the install was a nightmare
[08:03] <carlos_> that is good
[08:03] <RadiantFire> the lilo install failed
[08:03] <RadiantFire> so I had to rescue it manually
[08:04] <RadiantFire> and install grub
[08:04] <_clem> carlos_ : I know.. but it's controversial, and the releases and all...  And the kernel *still* can't boot, so I'm stuck with the stock nv driver :(
[08:08] <DeadS0ul> ...yeah how did you mess it up?
[08:08] <nostrahungry> did you try to install firefox too?
[08:08] <nostrahungry> j/k
[08:08] <DrewMarin> messing with the pannel
[08:08] <carlos_> well guys, gotta go... cya!! and thanks for the answers!!
[08:08] <DrewMarin> I tried putting the penguins on it
[08:08] <DrewMarin> and it froze
[08:09] <_clem> DrewMarin : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-May/000081.html
[08:09] <DeadS0ul> haha
[08:09] <DrewMarin> and wouldnt load the pannels when I loaded ubuntu back up
[08:09] <DrewMarin> the first time I have seen a evil penguin
[08:09] <nostrahungry> speaking of penguins.......is mandake/mandriva or whatever the hell its called any good?
[08:09] <DrewMarin> ???
[08:09] <bur[n] er> nope
[08:09] <bur[n] er> heh
[08:09] <DrewMarin> been a unix user for 4 days
[08:09] <bur[n] er> liar
[08:09] <DrewMarin> who me
[08:09] <bur[n] er> you've been a linux user for 4 days
[08:09] <DrewMarin> Im not lying
[08:10] <bur[n] er> unix != linux
[08:10] <DrewMarin> well Itried linux on other pcs but couldnt do anything on it becuase the hardware
[08:10] <nostrahungry> iv been one for few hours straight
[08:10] <nostrahungry> :)
[08:10] <DrewMarin> the system would crash b4 I did anything
[08:10] <_clem> nostrahungry: Mandrake 9.1 was good as I remember it... I'll review Mandriva One soon.. I don't have a clue if it's still good or not. As I remember it wasn't always stable..
[08:10] <DrewMarin> linux is alot easier than I thought it would be though
[08:11] <nostrahungry> iv been looking for something familiar at all........and was very excited when i noticed irc
[08:11] <nostrahungry> brag about it
[08:11] <bur[n] er> mandrake/driva uses rpms :\  bleh
[08:11] <nostrahungry> lol
[08:11] <DrewMarin> brag about what
[08:11] <DrewMarin> the people here pretty much take ur hand through everything
[08:11] <DrewMarin> nice people
[08:11] <DrewMarin> wait I gots an idea
[08:12] <nostrahungry> i learn best through reading/doing
[08:12] <bonggnu> holas
[08:13] <bur[n] er> hola... eres en un channel de ingles :)
[08:13] <DrewMarin> yea doing helps me
[08:13] <DrewMarin> but reading gets me bored
[08:14] <DrewMarin> Im installing ubuntu now
[08:14] <bur[n] er> it's not hard ;)
[08:14] <bur[n] er> DrewMarin: dapper?
[08:14] <_clem> DrewMarin : did you get the Dapper RC ?
[08:14] <DrewMarin> nope except installing from source
[08:14] <DrewMarin> nope
[08:14] <DrewMarin> I typed in: sudo apt-get update
[08:14] <pm> is it true that dapper release has been postponed again?
[08:14] <DrewMarin> and it gave me some error
[08:14] <bur[n] er> pm: not that i've heard
[08:15] <nostrahungry> whats the difference in ubuntu and kubuntu.....just the kde and gnome?
[08:15] <_clem> pm: source ?
[08:15] <DrewMarin> wait nm
[08:15] <bur[n] er> nostrahungry: basically
[08:15] <DrewMarin> it just updated the package list I think
[08:15] <pm> i don't want to wait anymore!!! :(((
[08:15] <bur[n] er> pm: just upgrade now! :)
[08:15] <nostrahungry> oh...and the fact that ubuntu has firefox with it already
[08:15] <nostrahungry> lol
[08:15] <_clem> nostrahungry : it's a matter of having everything on one CD, so there's two versions .. one for each big desktop..
[08:16] <pm> it rc, i want stable version
[08:16] <pm> it's *
[08:16] <bur[n] er> it's pretty stable...
[08:16] <chuck> Hi
[08:16] <bur[n] er> to be released in teh next 24 hours and there hasn't been a package updated in hte past 24
[08:16] <DrewMarin> yea I only had one problem which messed up my system
[08:16] <nostrahungry> i dont know why....but i dont like konqueror
[08:16] <pm> i've already got  dapper beta
[08:16] <bur[n] er> pm: so apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[08:16] <bur[n] er> :)
[08:17] <DrewMarin> oh I didnt do upgrade
[08:17] <DrewMarin> will do after installing the ubuntu base system
[08:17] <pm> i did it so i guess i have rc right now, i installed it when it was beta
[08:17] <_clem> bur[n] er: can you tell me if any package as been modified since RC was released (25 of may). ?
[08:17] <chuck> When I install kubuntu 5.1 and update it, it gives me a new kernel, with this new kernal the Xserver is does not work, has anyone else experanced this, or know a solution to it?
[08:17] <_clem> 5.10...
[08:17] <_clem> 10 as in October..
[08:19] <bur[n] er> _clem: there have been plenty of updates since then
[08:19] <_clem> ok
[08:19] <bur[n] er> chuck: just go to dapper :)
[08:20] <chuck> dapper?
[08:20] <bur[n] er> chuck: ubuntu 6.06...  hte next version
[08:20] <bur[n] er> chuck: run 'gksudo "update-manager -d"'
[08:20] <bur[n] er> that should upgrade you to dapper
[08:20] <chuck> ok...
[08:20] <bur[n] er> er... wtf is the kde based sudo thing...  you might not have gksudo
[08:20] <robotgeek> bur[n] er: that only works on ubuntu
[08:21] <bur[n] er> disregard chuck... run "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" and edit all instances of "breezy" to say "dapper" then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:21] <_clem> chuch : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades
[08:22] <_clem> yep
[08:24] <soon> Hi there folks ... just finished my first ever kubuntu install .. looks nice and WAUV !! does KDE load quickly ...
[08:24] <DrewMarin> hanybody know how to get vba to run with a gui
[08:24] <DrewMarin> same here soon
[08:24] <DrewMarin> I was usin gnome the last 4 days
[08:25] <RadiantFire> does anybody know how I can map the multimedia keys on my laptop to shortcuts?
[08:25] <DrewMarin> yea I need to know that also
[08:26] <soon> Already got myself into trouble though: tried starting kuser ... I wasnt prompted for a root password during installation, but using kuser I have changed it to my ususal pw. I can now su in bash, but Kuser claims the PW is wrong !!
[08:27] <LeeJunFan> soon: you should use the password of the first user you setup.
[08:27] <DrewMarin> how come it wont let me use gvba to boot vba
[08:28] <soon> LeeJunFan ... okay, but why though ?
[08:28] <RadiantFire> sigh, this is silly
[08:28] <LeeJunFan> ubotu: tell soon about root
[08:28] <DeadS0ul> RadiantFire: look up keytouch
[08:29] <soon> hmm LeeJunFan ... that could prove a problem - I started with a user 'ssss' (the keyboard setup was screwed during install) ... I hve since then deleted user 'ssss' !
[08:30] <DrewMarin> why dosent gvba work
[08:30] <rir1> Hi all
[08:31] <rir1> where is the module sound in kubuntu ?
[08:31] <chuck> bash: gksudo: command not found
[08:31] <chuck> bash: gksudo: command not found
[08:32] <rir1> i have a problem  no sound
[08:32] <LeeJunFan> soon: at least you made a root password first, su to root, then add your current user to admin group, you'll then be able to use sudo and kuser again.
[08:32] <rir1> i look in etc/module
[08:32] <DrewMarin> why dosent gvba work/??
[08:32] <LeeJunFan> soon: gpasswd -a [username]  admin
[08:32] <DrewMarin> wait nm I think I know why
[08:33] <LeeJunFan> soon: then when kuser asks for a password use the one for your current user, not root.
[08:33] <rir1> imbrandon: are you here ?
[08:33] <soon> thanks !
[08:33] <rir1> nixternal ?
[08:35] <rir1> how is the sound card detected ?
[08:35] <chuck> why am I getting "bash: gksudo: command not found"?
[08:36] <rir1> it seems the computer detected an AC97 but it's an intel SIS
[08:36] <bur[n] er> chuck: because gksudo is a gnome thing, and you have kubuntu
[08:36] <chuck> ah
[08:36] <bur[n] er> chuck: use sudo or kdesu
[08:36] <crimsun> rir1: both are correct. the codec is ac97-based, the dsp is sis-based.
[08:36] <rir1> thanks
[08:36] <apokryphos> kdesu if you're going to use a GUI application
[08:36] <crimsun> rir1: you control the mixer, which is the former.
[08:37] <rir1> crimsun : what do you mean
[08:37] <rir1> do you mean the mixer is mute
[08:38] <chuck> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:38] <chuck> Xlib: No protocol specified
[08:38] <chuck> kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[08:39] <crimsun> rir1: no, I mean volumes are controlled via the ac97 perspective. What's the issue?
[08:40] <rir1> no sound on kubuntu
[08:40] <rir1> so i follow ubuntu 's how to
[08:40] <rir1> and there is no driver in /etc/module
[08:41] <crimsun> rir1: /etc/modules is a red herring. Pastebin ``lspci -v && cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''
[08:41] <chuck> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:41] <chuck> Xlib: No protocol specified
[08:41] <chuck> kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[08:41] <chuck> I am confussed :(
[08:42] <bur[n] er> heh... just run sudo ;)
[08:42] <unition> whats the root pw for breezy ?
[08:42] <bur[n] er> unition: there isn't one
[08:42] <bur[n] er> !root
[08:42] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:42] <unition> well wtf
[08:42] <rir1> crimsun: thanks i didn't know the pastebin
[08:42] <chuck> "sudo: update-manager -d: command not found"  !!!! help me :(
[08:43] <bur[n] er> disregard chuck... run "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" and edit all instances of "breezy" to say "dapper" then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:43] <bur[n] er> you don't have the latest updates to breezy it seems ;)
[08:44] <chuck> I just ran adept-update
[08:44] <chuck> I should.
[08:44] <crimsun> rir1: please tell me the url after you've pasted, and hang 5, since I'm kinda busy (at work)
[08:44] <jack> Does anyone have Kweather working with Kubuntu ?
[08:44] <uwo> how can i make a short movie of my desktop (not snapshot, but movie while i am changing windows, etc.)?
[08:45] <bur[n] er> chuck: oh right... again, update-manager is part of the gnome ubuntu ;)  just do the edit like i said
[08:45] <chuck> ok
[08:45] <newuser> Anyone know how to upgrade Kubuntu 5.10 to 6.06
[08:45] <bur[n] er> uwo: byzanz or wink
[08:45] <bur[n] er> newuser... run "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" and edit all instances of "breezy" to say "dapper" then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[08:45] <uwo> burner:  tnx
[08:46] <chuck> When I run sudo kate /etc/apt... I get:
[08:46] <chuck> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:46] <chuck> Xlib: No protocol specified
[08:46] <chuck> kate: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[08:46] <chuck> kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.
[08:46] <bur[n] er> how bout "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:47] <chuck> ok that opened it
[08:47] <rir1> crimsun: si7012
[08:47] <rir1> stack AC97
[08:47] <DaSkreech> can kopete join Yahoo conference chats?
[08:47] <rir1> should work ?
[08:48] <crimsun> rir1: I need the url of your paste
[08:48] <rir1> sorry i don't know how to do it ?
[08:49] <chuck> just replace all the "Breezy" or also the "Breezy Badger"?
[08:49] <fatejudger> what ever happened to the whole Zeroconf thing with network printers
[08:49] <fatejudger> did that just never materialize?
[08:50] <DaSkreech>  man I hate Kopete :(
[08:50] <fatejudger> Kopete is awesome
[08:50] <DaSkreech> It's terrible
[08:50] <fatejudger> how is that?
[08:50] <rir1> crimsun: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/749583
[08:50] <DaSkreech> It doesn't do anything that I want it to do
[08:51] <fatejudger> such as?
[08:51] <DaSkreech> IM people off the fly
[08:51] <fatejudger> off the fly?
[08:51] <DaSkreech> Is my most recent reason to curse it
[08:51] <rir1> crimsun: did you get it ?
[08:51] <DaSkreech> fatejudger: What Protocol do you use
[08:51] <fatejudger> AIM, MSN
[08:52] <orco> Hi
[08:52] <DaSkreech> Well try and say hello to me on Aim
[08:52] <orco> i receibe a problem when updating saying it cannot configure libc6
[08:52] <orco> what's wrong with my kubuntu?
[08:53] <orco> s/problem/error
[08:53] <orco> :D
[08:54] <crimsun> rir1: yes, please be patient, I'll address it asap, but I'm talking with my boss
[08:54] <rir1> sorry
[08:55] <rir1> please take you time
[08:55] <rir1> i don't want to disturb you
[08:56] <orco> wow... now i get a segmentation fault when I try to upgrade... :/ gods... juass (pray paladine about that xD)
[08:58] <chuck> bur[n] er: ok I did just like you said then I got this error after it downloaded the updates:
[08:58] <chuck> Fetched 962kB in 7s (122kB/s)
[08:58] <chuck> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:58] <chuck> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:59] <chuck> o wait
[08:59] <chuck> I found whats wrong
[09:03] <visik7> will kde 3.5.3 be included in dapper sooner or later ? or I've to stuck with kubuntu.org packages ?
[09:04] <uniq> stuck with kubuntu.org packages.
[09:04] <uniq> most likely.
[09:05] <klerfayt> kdesu konqueror isn't working
[09:06] <visik7> uniq: but in 5 years will not be updated to bugfix releases ?
[09:06] <visik7> uniq: 3.5.3 is better then 3.5.2 expecially imap support
[09:07] <Kadran> hi visik7: is kde 3.5.3 is officially released?
[09:07] <visik7> sources yes
[09:07] <visik7> packages for dapper are available on kubuntu.org/packages
[09:08] <crimsun> rir1: amixer set 'Master' 77% && amixer set 'IEC958' off && amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0 && amixer set 'Sigmatel 4-Speaker Stereo' on
[09:08] <Kadran> visik7: but i don't get any thing when running apt-get update ?
[09:08] <rir1> crimsun: ok
[09:08] <visik7> Kadran: isn't in the official repos
[09:09] <Kadran> visik7: i have added other repos too?
[09:09] <visik7> Kadran: you need to add deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353/ dapper main to sources.list
[09:09] <Kadran> ok i will do it thanks :)
[09:10] <visik7> I'm using it right now
[09:10] <Kadran> kde is alwayes cool
[09:11] <DaSkreech> Kadran: Wrong
[09:11] <Kadran> DaSkreech: you don't like kde ?
[09:11] <DaSkreech> It's Kool :)
[09:12] <Kadran> oh yeah right :)
[09:13] <jeroenvrp> I try to make a nice looking chart, but Openoffice, Koffice and especially Kchart are not very good.
[09:13] <jeroenvrp> does anyone know another chart-software!?!
[09:13] <DaSkreech> Dia?
[09:14] <visik7> is there a dia written in kdelibs or qt ?
[09:14] <Kadran> jeroenvrp: dia is fine but i hate to tell you that that ms visio is actually good and you can run it with wine
[09:15] <jeroenvrp> Kadran: no MS on my machine
[09:15] <visik7> :)
[09:15] <jeroenvrp> i will try dia
[09:15] <Kadran> me neither, but i have wine
[09:16] <jeroenvrp> me to, but no MS software
[09:16] <Kadran> i won't restart and leave linux :)
[09:17] <crimsun> rir1: progress?
[09:18] <sheldonc> dia is pretty good. i dont know if it draws the charts he wants it to, bu
[09:18] <rir1> nothing
[09:18] <rir1> no sound
[09:18] <crimsun> rir1: nothing what?
[09:18] <sheldonc> t as far as stupid diagrams for univ, it worked fine
[09:18] <_clem> the dot language is great for tree like graphs.
[09:18] <crimsun> rir1: does ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*start*.wav'' not work?
[09:23] <jeroenvrp> Kadran: dia is for diagrams, I mean charts
[09:24] <Kadran> jeroenvrp: did you tried kivio?
[09:25] <jeroenvrp> Kadran: is also for diagrams
[09:25] <jeroenvrp> I mean charts
[09:25] <Kadran> mmm, like flow charts?
[09:25] <jeroenvrp> no
[09:26] <jeroenvrp> like a chart of temperature
[09:26] <jeroenvrp> a population chart
[09:26] <jeroenvrp> etc
[09:26] <rir1> crimsun:  read but don't sound
[09:27] <Kadran> jeroenvrp: in other words something to draw graphs with? am i right?
[09:27] <jeroenvrp> Kadran: yes
[09:27] <rir1> crimsun: thanks... i have to go
[09:28] <Kadran> jeroenvrp: did you tried oo spreadsheet?
[09:28] <jeroenvrp> Kadran: yes, but I think it's poortly designed and makes ugly charts/graphs
[09:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way to encode a streaming video played with mplayer in a file? avi for example
[09:31] <Kadran> jeroenvrp: you can get more gallary for ooo or use the gnome spread sheet
[09:31] <jeroenvrp> oh yeah gnumeric
[09:31] <Kadran> yes
[09:31] <Kadran> Tallia1Kubuntu: use soundkonverter
[09:32] <soon> is there no Kile for Ubuntu? Doesnt show up in Adept ....
[09:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sound??
[09:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it is a video file Kedran
[09:32] <Kadran> Tallia1Kubuntu: it is a program that can convert many file formats to anothe format
[09:33] <Kadran> oh no it is for sound
[09:33] <soon> Wauv ... Im having serious X problems here ... cant read anything in the text window ....
[09:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Kadran: furthermore it is a video stream.. not a file
[09:33] <Kadran> for vedio there is something called konverter
[09:34] <Kadran> Tallia1Kubuntu: you want to record something that is played in mplayer, right?
[09:34] <Blissex> Tallia1Kubuntu: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html#tasksRecord
[09:35] <Kadran> soon i have it in mine, add respoteries
[09:35] <Blissex> Tallia1Kubuntu: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html#tasksRecordPlay
[09:35] <ctothej> why would fglrxinfo tell me "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!" ??
[09:36] <soon> thanks ! Kadran
[09:37] <Kadran> you are welcome
[09:40] <ctothej> how can i test opengl 3d acceleration?
[09:42] <Kadran> ctothej: there is some open gl screen savers
[09:43] <ctothej> err. i knew it then. they were black. i need to get this 3d acceleration working
[09:43] <RadiantFire> glxgears
[09:43] <RadiantFire> it won't run without 3d accel
[09:44] <davidhouse> hi guys. i have some xmodmap bindings i'd like to load automatically when my laptop boots. i have them in my ~/.xmodmaprc file, and http://paste.lisp.org/display/20672 is my ~/.xinitrc file, but it's not working; the bindings aren't loaded. any suggestions?
[09:45] <ctothej> RadiantFire: know why fglrxinfo would tell me "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual" ?
[09:45] <davidhouse> is ~/.xinitrc automatically run? perhaps i need /etc/xinitrc?
[09:45] <davidhouse> or /etc/.xinitrc
[09:45] <RadiantFire> no
[09:46] <RadiantFire> unless your not using the ati provided driver
[09:46] <diop> looking for f77 compiler
[09:46] <ctothej> i am using ati's driver
[09:49] <serenity> hi
[09:50] <serenity> when will kubuntu be downloadable?
[09:51] <robotgeek> serenity: you can download it off www.kubuntu.org
[09:53] <serenity> robotgeek: i mean 6.06
[09:53] <dom> what irc clients are people using?
[09:53] <Kadran> serenity: it supossed to be at 1st june so it 's a matter of ~5 hours
[09:54] <serenity> so it will definitly tomorrow?
[09:55] <Kadran> i hope so,
[09:55] <Kadran> dom: Konversation
[09:55] <jorgp> dom: konversation
[09:55] <serenity> fine. I thought that it will take longer to put kde on ubuntu
[09:56] <Shuriken> dom: Konversation :D
[09:56] <DaSkreech> serenity: Nope it's an apt-get kubuntu-desktop away :-)
[09:56] <Kadran> serenity: you can now try kde 3.5.3 if you want
[09:57] <jorgp> is 3.5.3 out?
[09:57] <xwolf-> how many megabytes will breezy->dapper update take, approximately?
[09:57] <Shuriken> 3.5.3 is out ?
[09:57] <DaSkreech> KDE4!!
[09:57] <dom> far out
[09:58] <jorgp> I think there is a KDE4 preview scheduled for Sept
[09:58] <Kadran> yes it is :)
[09:59] <jorgp> is this still a valid bug? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/konqueror/+bug/31055
[09:59] <Shuriken> Kadran: uh ? Where did you get the info ?
[09:59] <Kadran> from visik7
[10:00] <Kadran> and he use it,
[10:00] <jorgp> sorry, not Sept, but Oct
[10:00] <jorgp> http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-4.0-release-plan.html
[10:02] <DaSkreech> jorgp: I'm pretty sure that's easy to prove wrong :)
[10:02] <Kadran> Shuriken: just add this to sources.list deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-353 dapper main
[10:03] <Shuriken> Kadran: thanks. But why the info didn't appear on KDE planet ?
[10:04] <Kadran> Shuriken: i am actually amaized my self i use a link to the latest kde but it don't point to 3.5.3 ?-)
[10:04] <jorgp> DaSkreech: what is easy to prove wrong?
[10:05] <DaSkreech> Random release plans :)
[10:05] <DaSkreech> Though they have been booking it on the individual projects if you follow appeal
[10:06] <Shuriken> so do I, kde-latest point to 352
[10:06] <Shuriken> +s
[10:06] <Kadran> me too
[10:06] <DaSkreech> `Mornfall is the adept maintainer correct?
[10:07] <Shuriken> is 3.5.3 a finale release ?
[10:07] <crazy_penguin> night all!
[10:07] <serenity> i have installed kde 3.5.3
[10:08] <Kadran> 3.5.3 is officially to be out at 23rd of may !
[10:08] <jorgp> well, 3.5.3 tarballs are in testing, but the guys in #kde-devel say its not official released yet
[10:09] <jorgp> having packages != released
[10:09] <Shuriken> Ok, that's whay i've never heard about it before
[10:09] <xwolf-> how many megabytes will breezy->dapper update take, approximately?
[10:09] <Shuriken> -a
[10:10] <jorgp> they said kde.org will be updated when its out
[10:10] <Kadran> jorgp: i am waiting :)
[10:11] <DaSkreech> Man am I going to be dissappointed when this comes out :-(
[10:11] <visik7> jorgp: but sources are in the stable brench on ftp
[10:12] <jorgp> Kadran: actually 3.5 branch was tagged 3.5.3 on 23rd may, not released
[10:12] <jorgp> visik7: hmm
[10:16] <jorgp> visik7: but they might not be the final tarballs, having packages != released
[10:16] <DaSkreech> When can we get Oxygen?
[10:18] <visik7> jorgp: I couldn't wait :)
[10:19] <jorgp> well, it probably does have tons of fixes
[10:22] <DaSkreech> If I go 64 bit with LInux can I run a mix of 32 bit and 64 bit apps?
[10:25] <kmon> DaSkreech: you'll need to set up a chroot
[10:25] <Reon> DaSkreech,  yes but it is a biatch
[10:26] <DaSkreech> So does kubuntu have a 64 bit repo?
[10:26] <kmon> sure
[10:26] <DaSkreech> where would I find the list?
[10:26] <kmon> kubuntu supports x86, amd64 & powerpc archs
[10:27] <kmon> list?
[10:27] <kmon> are you refering to the download site?
[10:28] <visik7> sparc ia64 and hppa from dapper (according to repos)
[10:29] <kmon> visik7: yeah... but I'm mostly refering to the "common" ones
[10:31] <apokryphos> DaSkreech: the same repository is used for all of them
[10:31] <apokryphos> apt determines which packages you need for you
[10:32] <DaSkreech> kmon: The sources.list entry
[10:33] <DaSkreech> apokryphos: really?
[10:33] <DaSkreech> that's pretty smart :)
[10:33] <apokryphos> yes
[10:33] <lmh> hi all
[10:33] <lmh> how can i set up grub to boot my console with 1040x1050 - resolution?
[10:34] <DaSkreech> Now all it needs is a changelog and I'm besotted
[10:34] <DaSkreech> well possibly a hint as to which repo a package is in
[10:35] <DaSkreech> Hmm Plasma is behind schedule
[10:37] <DaSkreech> how does pdiff work?
[10:38] <jorgp> visik7: how is 3.5.3 vs 3.5.2
[10:38] <visik7> the 2 things that I've noticed more is better imap in kmail
[10:38] <visik7> and faster konqueror startup
[10:39] <jorgp> konq startup is a plus
[10:41] <visik7> jorgp: a plus ?
[10:42] <visik7> jorgp: btw there is the changelog
[10:44] <jorgp> visik7: the faster startup
[10:46] <jorgp> visik7: where is the changelog
[10:46] <bahbahbah> how much longer until dapper is out? that's 00:00 GMT, right? ;-)
[10:47] <crimsun> bahbahbah: 11 hours-ish
[10:47] <ealm> Amarok doesn't play my mp3:s (though ogg works).. it just jumps past the mp3s in a second, and they appear as it they're played
[10:47] <PyroMithrandir> !mp3
[10:47] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a patented format; to enable mp3 capability see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:47] <PyroMithrandir> ealm^^
[10:47] <bahbahbah> ealm: have a google for easyubuntu...
[10:47] <DaSkreech> What about musicbrainz
[10:48] <DaSkreech> is there a easy way to get that with MP3 support?
[10:48] <ealm> what's that?
[10:48] <bahbahbah> DaSkreech: easyubuntu...
[10:48] <DaSkreech> bahbahbah: Really?
[10:49] <bahbahbah> DaSkreech: really!
[10:49] <DaSkreech> I've never quite understood what the big deal with MP3 is
[10:49] <DaSkreech> If we can use Mono we can use MP3
[10:49] <jorgp> it all started with redhat
[10:49] <jorgp> they where the first to make a release without mp3 support
[10:50] <DaSkreech> I know
[10:50] <bahbahbah> DaSkreech: not really. frauenhofer (that owns the mp3 format) wants those who make players to pay them a fee if I'm not misstaken.
[10:50] <kmon> DaSkreech: not really. MP3 is patent encumbered, .NET is an ECMAC Standard
[10:50] <DaSkreech> But they don't ship with Mono either and it has the same ramification as MP3 and no one else seems to care
[10:51] <DaSkreech> kmon: C# is a standard
[10:51] <DaSkreech> Slight difference
[10:51] <kmon> the clr
[10:51] <kmon> as well
[10:52] <jorgp> so can I just apt-get kubuntu-desktop to switch to kubuntu
[10:53] <jorgp> from ubuntu
[10:53] <jorgp> dapper
[10:53] <kmon> jorgp: yes, but installing the kubuntu-desktop package doesn't unintall the ubuntu one
[10:53] <kmon> so you'll end up with both
[10:54] <jorgp> thats ok
[10:54] <DaSkreech> I thought it was funny you remove the Kubuntudesktop but not the ubuntu one :)(
[10:54] <CaBlGuY> well, the "ubuntu one" as u guys keep saying.. is the defualt win X environment..
[10:54] <ealm> thanx guys for EasyUbuntu. (K/Edu)ubuntu is the sh*t!!!!!
[10:54] <CaBlGuY> the Okey~Dokey! "desktop" environment is just an add on..
[10:55] <CaBlGuY> err K, I mena..
[10:55] <CaBlGuY> mean.. theres also Gnome desktop environment..
[10:55] <CaBlGuY> it's not a "kubuntu" distro.. it's just an add on for the ubuntnu distro.
[10:56] <DaSkreech> I know
[10:56] <DaSkreech>  like the Gnome desktop is the addon for the Ubuntu distro
[10:56] <DaSkreech> and the educational one
[10:57] <DaSkreech> and hopefully the E one :)
[10:57] <CaBlGuY> hehe
[10:57] <DaSkreech> but you can remove the KDElibs package and everything kubuntu goes
[10:57] <CaBlGuY> I like the gnome "sleek" look..
[10:57] <DaSkreech> Kinda hard to do that with the Gnome desktop
[10:57] <CaBlGuY> the K. envirn is a bit more "demanding"..
[11:01] <morrow> !skype
[11:01] <ubotu> skype is probably http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[11:05] <nico8481> hi
[11:11] <CaBlGuY> what distro is Ubuntu based on? I can't member..
[11:11] <kosh> debian
[11:11] <klerfayt> !debian
[11:11] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[11:11] <DaSkreech> !frostwire
[11:11] <ubotu> I heard frostwire is a free peer-to-peer application that runs on the Gnutella network. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrostWireHowTo
[11:12] <nicole> hi. I've got troubles configuring my printer. I installed foo2zjs from here http://foo2zjs.rkkda.com/
[11:13] <CaBlGuY> HmMmMmMmM
[11:13] <nicole> because the shipped one didn't work "no permissions/driver not available" or something like that.
[11:13] <CaBlGuY> U looked for the driver for yor printer already?
[11:13] <nicole> yeah. And it loads. And /sbin/foo2zjs-loadfw 1005 /dev/usb/lp0 says
[11:14] <DaSkreech> Does Frostwire work on Java 5?
[11:14] <nicole> MFG:Hewlett-Packard;MDL:hp LaserJet 1005 series;CMD:ZJS;CLS:PRINTER;DES:hp LaserJet 1005 series;FWVER:20021030;
[11:14] <nicole> MFG:Hewlett-Packard;MDL:hp LaserJet 1005 series;CMD:ZJS;CLS:PRINTER;DES:hp LaserJet 1005 series;FWVER:20021030;
[11:14] <nicole> /sbin/foo2zjs-loadfw: HP LaserJet 1005 firmware already loaded into /dev/usb/lp0
[11:14] <nicole> n
[11:14] <nicole> while lpq says
[11:14] <CaBlGuY> Ummm use pastebun when ya got somethin like that again...
[11:14] <CaBlGuY> WAIT..
[11:14] <nicole> lpq: error - no default destination available.
[11:14] <CaBlGuY> !tell  nicole about pastebin
[11:15] <BlankB> mmm pastebuns.
[11:15] <nicole> for three lines?
[11:15] <CaBlGuY> :|
[11:15] <CaBlGuY> damn kids..
[11:15] <CaBlGuY> :p
[11:15] <CaBlGuY> we try not to "take advantage" of the channel.
[11:16] <CaBlGuY> anyway...
[11:16] <bahbahbah> CaBlGuY: Pastebun? Like "I sneak past the bun" kind of bun? http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.amiga.misc/msg/f78b808c67b7bc37?q=BFINN&hl=en&lr=&rnum=1
[11:16] <CaBlGuY> doesn't look like the driver is loaded..
[11:16] <DaSkreech> Anyone use frostwire?
[11:16] <CaBlGuY> all it says is "firmware"...
[11:16] <CaBlGuY> :/
[11:17] <dracflamloc> whats a good kde ftp program like FlashFXP?
[11:18] <nicole> I tried to install it via the systems setting printers thing. It claimed to work but it didnt.
[11:18] <bahbahbah> dracflamloc: konqueror? kbear?
[11:19] <dracflamloc> i'll try kbear i guess
[11:20] <CaBlGuY> HmMmMmMmM
[11:20] <CaBlGuY> nicole IM not the gugru on printers or installing them so, only thing I would know to tell ya is to try installin the driver again and be sure it's the correct one, other than that, ...
[11:21] <CaBlGuY> sawwwreeee
[11:21] <nicole> no problem.
[11:21] <raven301_> Where is the sources.list located?
[11:21] <nicole> thanks anywaz
[11:21] <nicole> anyway.
[11:22] <DaSkreech> Blast I was lied to!
[11:22] <CaBlGuY> nicole NP, someone should be able to help out eventually.. just hang out for a while..
[11:22] <CaBlGuY> !printers
[11:22] <ubotu> printers is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[11:22] <CaBlGuY> or u can try there
[11:23] <serenity> how to create a mpeg-file with digiKam, with photo and music?
[11:23] <nicole> well. I fear I have to figure out the cups thingy
[11:24] <nicole> and get around the bug in the graphic config tool.
[11:24] <DaSkreech> Two things
[11:24] <DaSkreech> Does anyone have Frostwire and is there a way to get musicbrainz with mp3
[11:24] <DaSkreech> :-)
[11:25] <CaBlGuY> DaSkreech, I don't have frostwire, and not tried it, and not sure what musicbrainz iz.. :-p
[11:26] <CaBlGuY> U might try the main channel
[11:26] <vinboy> is xine better than gstreamer?
[11:26] <kosh> vinboy: usually
[11:27] <vinboy> thx kosh
[11:27] <kosh> vinboy: it is simpler and just seems to work a heck of a lot better
[11:27] <kosh> vinboy: it can also do 7.1 audio output which I like :)
[11:30] <jorgp> DaSkreech: deb http://archive.czessi.net/ubuntu/ dapper main universe
[11:30] <DaSkreech> CaBlGuY: The .. main channel?
[11:30] <DaSkreech> jorgp: musicbrianz?
[11:30] <jorgp> DaSkreech: add that to sources.list
[11:31] <CaBlGuY> DaSkreech yea.. #ubuntu
[11:31] <DaSkreech> CaBlGuY: hahaha! :)
[11:31] <jorgp> it has all the mp3 enabled stuff, like amarok 1.4 and musicbrainz w/ mp3 support
[11:31] <CaBlGuY> ;)
[11:32] <YazzY> hi u
[11:32] <YazzY> hi guys
[11:33] <CaBlGuY> YazzY Howdy U
[11:33] <CaBlGuY> hi d00d, d00det..
[11:33] <CaBlGuY> :p
[11:33] <YazzY> i have problems rebooting my toshiba satellite laptop, it says "Will reboot now" then debugging shows md:stopping allmd devices. Restarting system. No reboot fixup found for your hw.
[11:33] <YazzY> CaBlGuY: hi
[11:34] <YazzY> what the heck it the metter with reboot not being able to work ?
[11:34] <CaBlGuY> HmMmMmMmM that's a wierd one..
[11:34] <CaBlGuY> what version ya runnin.. breezy or badger?
[11:34] <kkathman> breezy and badger are the same :)
[11:35] <kkathman> you mean breezy or dapper I think
[11:35] <YazzY> CaBlGuY: dapper
[11:35] <YazzY> but the same issue was in breezy
[11:35] <CaBlGuY> ummmmmm
[11:35] <CaBlGuY> no, there was badger, and one b4 it..
[11:36] <CaBlGuY> anyway..
[11:36] <CaBlGuY> YazzY, can u get into the desktop environment, or command liine??
[11:36] <DaSkreech> jorgp: Who is in charge of this?
[11:37] <CaBlGuY> DaSkreech no one is "in charge"...
[11:37] <YazzY> CaBlGuY: sure
[11:37] <DaSkreech> lol
[11:37] <DaSkreech> Right keep saying that :)
[11:37] <CaBlGuY> YazzY ok, I was gonna say, if you can get to the command line, do a apt-get update.. so if that helps..
[11:38] <YazzY> CaBlGuY: no, it did not
[11:38] <YazzY> i updated it a short while ago
[11:38] <CaBlGuY> YazzY ahhh well then, U need someone more skilled then me.. :p
[11:39] <brandon_> does ktorrent support dht?
[11:41] <jorgp> DaSkreech: dunno
[11:41] <jorgp> brandon_: not yet
[11:42] <DaSkreech> jorgp: Will they have the updates for amarok?
[11:42] <jorgp> brandon_: 1.3 will
[11:42] <jorgp> DaSkreech: yes, 1.4.0a
[11:42] <DaSkreech> So should I get rid of the kubuntu repo that I'm using now?
[11:42] <brandon_> jorgp: when will that be released? i can't that damned azureus to work
[11:43] <jorgp> brandon_: I dont know, its been a long time and work is slow
[11:43] <pj-og77> Will kubuntu 6.06 LTS come out at the same time http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/182 as ubuntu?
[11:44] <DaSkreech> jorgp: Will it clash with the deb  http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main
[11:44] <Snake> pj-og77: yes
[11:45] <pj-og77> Ok. So now, why should I choose KDE over gnome? (I'm on a debian sarge with kde as my workstation for now)
[11:45] <brandon_> http://ktorrent.org/index.php?page=downloads
[11:46] <Snake> pj-og77: no reason to, just go with what you like :)
[11:46] <brandon_> looks liek there's a kubuntu deb in there
[11:46] <jorgp> DaSkreech: maybe
[11:46] <DaSkreech> ok I'll disable it
[11:46] <jorgp> visik7: svn was just updated 15 mins ago with this
[11:46] <jorgp> KDE 3.5.3 was released on May 31st, 2006
[11:47] <visik7> jorgp: ok
[11:47] <vinboy> why i  can't see gstreamer in amarok & kaffeine?
[11:47] <jorgp> [16:29]  <CIA-19> adridg * r547116 /trunk/www/sites/www/info/3.5.3.php: Fix the release date
[11:47] <jorgp> vinboy: if you are talking amarok 1.4, gstreamer is disabled
[11:47] <vinboy> jorgp: oh ic..
[11:47] <vinboy> thx
[11:47] <DaSkreech> jorgp: Can't connect to it
[11:48] <jorgp> DaSkreech: I just did
[11:48] <visik7> jorgp: any other changes a part from this ?
[11:48] <jorgp> no
[11:48] <visik7> ok so no update for the sources
[11:49] <jorgp> http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/www/sites/www/info/3.5.3.php?rev=547116&view=markup
[11:49] <visik7> nor for my installation
[11:49] <DaSkreech> jorgp: would they happen to have deb for it to download?
[11:50] <jorgp> DaSkreech: they should
[11:51] <DaSkreech> jorgp: Ok .. so I have musicbrainz installed already should I just do a reinstall
[11:51] <brandon_> if i'm dpkg installing something, how would i force it to overwrite files from existing packages?
[11:52] <jorgp> brandon_: man dpkg
[11:52] <brandon_> thanks
[11:57] <paveq> hi
[11:57] <paveq> when?
[11:57] <paveq> official dapper
[11:58] <paveq> * me wants download *
[11:59] <dvj> A+++ WHOULD DO BUISNESS WITH AGAIN
[11:59] <visik7> paveq: downoad rc
[11:59] <visik7> and install it
[11:59] <visik7> there are few updates
[12:00] <paveq> I have already
[12:00] <visik7> so enjoy it
[12:00] <paveq> whats with alternative cd and "setting up automated deployments"
[12:00] <paveq> I'm interested
[12:01] <paveq> I got 15 comps to be installed
[12:01] <paveq> computer class :)
[12:02] <paveq> alternative kubuntu release candidate didn't work
[12:02] <paveq> crc error, image's md5sum was correct
[12:02] <paveq> and burnt twice with different recorders
[12:02] <tinin> !xgl
[12:02] <ubotu> I guess xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"


[16:50] <bdx> hey, whats up all?
[16:51] <bdx> does anyone know when the JAAS controllers are getting the bump?
[16:51] <rick_h> bdx: there's some getting tested and verified all's well before they go out to all.
[16:53] <rick_h> bdx: I'm sprinting in London atm so not up on the latest. I'll try to find out.
[16:58] <bdx> rick_h: thanks


[03:16] <jamin> cjwatson: what do you feel is confusing about it and how would you prefer to see it?
[09:32] <cjwatson> jamin: I would like to see it rearranged such that it doesn't have a second spurious test, and to have a comment explaining what's going on.
[13:11] <soren> If I wanted to create a quick and dirty bootable USB stick that just runs a few simple commands and echoes some stuff to the console, what would be my best starting point?
[16:43] <xnox> soren: custom initramfs, plus kernel from any image with matching grub-efi from said image flashed onto efi partition.
[18:48] <soren> xnox: Thanks. I ended up just replacing the initrd in a mini.iso. It seems to work as expected.


[00:16] <daker> hey cjohnston i have a few question for summit
[00:16] <daker> questions*
[00:17] <daker> 1 - do care about the tracks colors ?
[00:18] <cjohnston> we do, yes
[00:18] <cjohnston> bbiab
[00:18] <cjohnston> work
[00:35] <daker> cjohnston: when you are back, can you share the code of http://panel.chrisjohnston.org/panel.php
[01:13] <cjohnston> daker: lp:summit/dispaly
[01:13] <cjohnston> display
[07:14] <pleia2> daker: looks nice! I'd replace the actual links with words though, like "Wiki" "Mailing list" etc
[07:15] <pleia2> *we* know that the "lists.ubuntu.com..." link will go to a mailing list, but it's not so obvious to everyone :)
[07:16] <pleia2> and I only know what "?" icon "Yes" means "provides local support" because I know that field exists, otherwise it's confusing
[07:17] <pleia2> people love to complain to me about the icons being confusing :\
[10:00] <daker> pleia2: thanks for the feedback :)
[17:35] <daker> hey mhall119 what does approved_date stand for ?
[17:36] <mhall119> daker: when the loco team was approved by the loco-council
[17:37] <daker> but i think they don't set that mhall119
[17:37] <mhall119> daker: it should come from Launchpad
[17:37] <daker> ah
[17:38] <mhall119> daker: it should be the date the loco team was made a member of ~locoteams-approved
[17:39] <daker> ok