[18:37] <ScottL> ailo_, where is the wiki page that you were recording the realtime testing?
[18:39] <ScottL> i know of this one:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime
[18:39] <ScottL> but i thought there was a much shorter, more condensed version that pretty much only had testing in it
[18:40] <ScottL> the one i linked didn't appear to have the last test data i did as well
[18:40] <ScottL>
[18:40] <ScottL> in other news, i was trying to test alessio's 2.6.39 -lowlatency kernel until i realized it was for oneiric only
[18:41] <ScottL> so i'm setting up an oneiric install now
[18:59] <ailo_> ScottL, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/generic_vs_lowlatency_test_results
[18:59] <ailo_> That's for a specific kernel version on Natty
[19:00] <ailo_> I should start working on a script soon
[19:00] <ailo_> If we are to test, we should have some more machines, I think
[19:00] <ailo_> Two testers is not enough
[19:00] <ailo_> We need a script to make it easier
[22:13] <astraljava> ailo_: ScottL: With a script, I will definitely participate in testing. Might be too busy otherwise, though.
[22:14] <astraljava> Basically my machine is on always, so it has plenty of time to run tests, if automated.
[23:22] <ScottL> astraljava, are you having a look at mudita24 this weekend?
[23:39] <astraljava> ScottL: I plan to, tomorrow.
[23:59] <ScottL> super sweet :)


[10:38] <didrocks> crevette: there?
[10:39] <crevette> hey didrocks, not for long I've to go to shower
[10:40] <didrocks> ok, I am reviewing your nemiver update
[10:40] <didrocks> I wondered why you add intltoolas b-d
[10:41] <crevette> because without it, I think it wouldn't built
[10:41] <crevette> can't remember the detail now
[10:41] <didrocks> hum, did you see anything in the configure.ac that mention it?
[10:41] <didrocks> ok, I will try without it
[10:41] <didrocks> just one thing
[10:42] <didrocks> can you please upload a new version with a full debian/changelog?
[10:42] <crevette> okay
[10:42] <didrocks> including what it writtent in NEWS
[10:42] <didrocks> written*
[10:42] <didrocks> ok :)
[10:43] <crevette> thanks
[10:43] <didrocks> you're welcome :)


[19:00] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: is there anyway we can have a backport version of zita-ajbridge? version 0.8.4 fixes the screaming cpu usage when a device is unplugged.
[19:01] <OvenWerks> Focal has that but the LTS does not.
 isn't Focal an LTS? o.O
 (Or did yuo mean groovy?)
[19:02] <OvenWerks> teward: right I messed up
[19:02] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: groovy has the right one focal does not
[19:03]  * OvenWerks wonders what problems the fix will give...
 *watches everything explode*
[19:28] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: I might be able to handle that.
[19:29] <Eickmeyer> !info zita-ajbridge focal
[19:30] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: is 0.8.4 a strictly bugfix or does it include new features?
[19:30] <Eickmeyer> If it's a bugfix, we might be able to SRU it.
[19:49] <OvenWerks> The readme for the update is:
[19:50] <OvenWerks> "zita-ajbridge 0.8.4     (05/04/2020)
[19:50] <OvenWerks>       -------------------
[19:50] <OvenWerks>       * Fixed 100% CPU on sound card disconnect."
[19:50] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: That is the only entry
[19:51] <OvenWerks> And there is no 0.8.3 it goes from 0.8.2 to 0.8.4
[19:51] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: Ok, would you mind filing an SRU bug report for it? You could probably describe the situation a lot better than I can.
[19:52] <Eickmeyer> Once you have that, I can upload/sponsor the SRU.
[19:54] <OvenWerks> sru? ok. I was thinking just add to backports, but sru would be nice. The only thing is that I would like to be able to test it to make sure that the fix of that doesn't create another problem. (like the ports vanishing before connections can be transfered :)
[19:54] <Eickmeyer> If it's a bugfix, then it can be SRU'd eaily.
[19:55] <OvenWerks> Anyway I will craete a bug report (this evening I think) I may need help making it sru-able.
[20:09] <Eickmeyer> Ok, sounds good.


[03:09] <neil_d> Hi, I am trying to get printing to work at a terminal, I think I have it setup correctly, but it isn't going :(   what is the name of the script that copies the data from the port to the printer ?
[04:12] <OS4> hi all
[04:16] <OS4> I set up an LTSP server on Ubuntu (AMD 64 with Nvidia Video card) and I am trying to connect to the server using XDMCP. I get this message: XIO: fatal IO error 11 (resourde temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0"
[04:17] <OS4> xnest is installed as i can ssh (-Y) into the server no problem
[04:17] <OS4> i have also been researching this but have not found a solved case yet. Can anyone help?
[04:18] <OS4> Sorry the server is AMD 64 core2 and the workstation is AMD sempron with Nvidia card
[06:29] <neil_d> Hi, I am trying to get printing to work at a terminal, I think I have it setup correctly, but it isn't going :(   what is the name of the script that copies the data from the port to the printer ?
[08:03] <User319> I need some help with printing from an Edubuntu 8.04 desktop install.
[08:04] <User319> When I go to System, Printing I get a message that Printing has started but then it goes away and nothing happens.
[08:04] <User319> I am still trying to install a printer but can't see how to do it if the software does not start.
[08:05] <User319> Is there any other way to start printing services? CUPS appears to be running already.
[09:21] <neil_d> Hi, I am trying to get printing to work at a terminal, I think I have it setup correctly, but it isn't going :(   what is the name of the script that copies the data from the port to the printer ?


[00:21] <nhandler> sommer: No problem. I would have fixed it myself, but I can't commit ;)
[09:27] <mdke> sommer: thanks for taking care of that. if you bind your branch it should prevent that from happening in future, I think.


[14:36] <GitHub71> [theme-ubuntuusers] chris34 opened pull request #147: Fixed #139 – removed background color behind codeblock_resizer (staging...fix/#139) https://git.io/v2Cxa


[16:48] <jaywink> hey all. Any idea what could cause when running a python script that does "os.system('service foobar restart')" in root terminal, everything works, but the same script in root crontab gives 'unrecognized service'? The upstart conf file is in /etc/init and as said, service works normally but not via root crontab
[16:48] <Peasant65> ioria: that's not what i mean, I want a cli, but the screen stays black
[16:48] <Peasant65> ioria: It does give me video output if i start using the grub menu (holding shift)
[16:48] <ioria> Peasant65,  you mean the installer does not start ?
[16:49] <Peasant65> ioria: I''ve allready installed, and it boots just fine (can login with ssh). But it only gives me video if i start holding shift and selectinf the Default (and only) boot option (ubuntu)
[16:49] <l4m8d4> Peasant65: You mean not even a virtual terminal login is shown? But you got SSH access?
[16:49] <Peasant65> l4m8d4: yes exactly
[16:49] <l4m8d4> Ok I see
[16:50] <ioria> Peasant65,  got it
[16:50] <Peasant65> but it does show a tty when i start using the grub menu
[16:50] <ioria> Peasant65,  tried  nomodeset  ?
[16:50] <l4m8d4> Peasant65: What graphics hardware are you using?
[16:51] <burt_93> hello everyone, new user here on xubuntu and i got a probelm with updates. i get error 404 after sudo apt-get update
[16:51] <Peasant65> I'm using intel intergrated graphics (intel N3050 cpu)
[16:52] <Peasant65> ioria: is that a command? If yes, it isn't recognized
[16:52] <l4m8d4> It's a fairly new one, might be that ubuntu has some problems with it by default.
[16:52] <ioria> Peasant65, no, is a kernel boot parameter , you can set it in Grub
[16:52] <Peasant65> ioria: ah ok
[16:53] <l4m8d4> Peasant65: You could set kernel parameter when editing /etc/default/grub via ssh and updating grub with update-grub
[16:53] <Peasant65> ioria: is the default boot option in grub (so no grub menu) something else then the first option in the list?
[16:53] <Peasant65> l4m8d4: ioria I'll try it out
[16:53] <ioria> Peasant65, advanced option -> 'e'  find 'linux' and after quite splash add  nomodeset
[16:54] <ioria> Peasant65, F10, to restart
[16:54] <l4m8d4> ioria: Would that be a permanent change to the kernel parameters?
[16:54] <ioria> l4m8d4, nope
[16:55] <ioria> l4m8d4, for that you have to edit /etc/default/grub
[16:56] <Peasant65> ioria: editing the line in grub menu wouldnt be usefull since my system allready boots correctly when i boot via the grub menu
[16:56] <l4m8d4> ioria:  yep. I was just wondering because I've never tried to edit the grub kernel parameters via grub. If there was something wrong with them I always used chroot to fix it :D
[16:56] <Jonathan__> how can I configure ufw to transfert files in ftp passive mode ?
[16:56] <ioria> l4m8d4, it's ok
[16:57] <ioria> Peasant65,  i think it's not a boot issue, but graphic issue
[16:58] <Peasant65> ioria: Maybe it could have soemthing to do with power saving features ? Like grub would be able to get hdmi to activate itself and ubuntu wouldnt ?
[16:59] <ioria> Peasant65,  idk that, sorry
[17:00] <Peasant65> ioria: nomodeset didn't fix it
[17:01] <Peasant65> l4m8d4: nomodeset didn't fix it. Have you got an7 other ideas? :)
[17:03] <ioria> Peasant65,  can you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log  ?
[17:04] <Peasant65> ioria: I don't think i have one? I didn't install a window manager
[17:04] <WJ3rd-2> ioria sorry takes a while to bootup with dvd.  -rw------- 1 name name
[17:04] <Peasant65> ioria: anyhow, it isn't there
[17:04] <compdoc> Peasant65,  how much ram do you give the onboard video in trhe bios settings?
[17:05] <Peasant65> compdoc: Not a clue, let me check that :)
[17:05] <ioria> WJ3rd-2, it's ok, why do you want remove it ?
[17:05] <jimmy51v_> having trouble mounting a cifs share from the 15.10 livecd.  had no trouble in 14.04.  error reported is 'filesystem not supported by system'.  started looking at modprobe cifs, it errors.
[17:06] <jimmy51v_> uname -r shows kernel 4.2 as expected.  /lib/modules/{kernel version} shows kernel of 3.13.
[17:06] <jimmy51v_> is that suspicous?  seems like the kernel version folder for the modules should match the live kernel
[17:06] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, it was suggested i remove it because something went wrong somewhere on my system and now when i try and login as my usual user there is an endless loop and i cant login
[17:06] <Peasant65> compdoc: 64MB
[17:07] <compdoc> Peasant65, I usually boot my servers to cli, but if I want a desktop, I use at least 1G ram
[17:07] <compdoc> yikes
[17:07] <compdoc> 64M is tiny
[17:07] <jimmy51v_> was my question that hard?
[17:08] <jimmy51v_> made half of the room quit!
[17:08] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  ok,  if the ownership of that file would be root:root  , would be good to chown it... but it's not
[17:08] <Peasant65> compdoc: I don't want a GUI (yet) It should boot into cli, no x or window manager installed
[17:08] <compdoc> jimmy51v_, your question broke the internet
[17:08] <compdoc> Peasant65, still, try giving it more
[17:08] <Peasant65> i will
[17:09] <Peasant65> compdoc: can't give it more than half a gig though
[17:09] <WJ3rd-2> ioria right
[17:09] <jimmy51v_> !cifs
[17:09] <jimmy51v_> !info cifs
[17:09] <compdoc> Peasant65, as little as possible until it works, if thats the problem
[17:09] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, well id still need write access which i dont have
[17:09] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, i cant write to the drive
[17:10] <WJ3rd-2> with any user
[17:10] <ioria> Peasant65,  remove quite splash and replace with   text systemd.unit=multi-user.target
[17:10] <naresh> hi guys
[17:10] <compdoc> cifs = samba
[17:10] <Peasant65> compdoc: giving it more ram didn't change anything
[17:11] <jimmy51v_> !info cifs-utils
[17:11] <compdoc> Peasant65, oh well
[17:11] <Guest68864> i want to connect internet with Belkin router. how can i do this
[17:11] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  as you can read here, if you are using liveCd and decrypted file under tmp, you have to use sudo for write access http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/
[17:11] <younder> cut then pleasantries. we are hundreds here naresh
[17:12] <Guest68864> on ubuntu connect internet with Belkin ... i need help
[17:13] <younder> Guest68864, how?
[17:13] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, use sudo in what sense?  i ran ecryptfs-private-recover with sudo, and iirc i tried to delete the file with sudo too, to no avail
[17:14] <younder> Guest68864, apperentry which Belkin devic?
[17:14] <Guest68864> younder:  is there i need any driver or software
[17:14] <younder> Guest68864, apperentry which Belkin devic?
[17:15] <ioria> WJ3rd-2   "You can access this directory to view the decrypted versions of your files. However, you may not have read access to this directory as the live CD user."
[17:15] <Peasant65> ioria: setting it to "text" worked, but was a little quircky
[17:15] <Guest68864> younder: wireless G router model : F5D7230-4
[17:15] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, yeah i can view and copy it though
[17:15] <younder> Belcin is just a company a driver is slaaved to a spesific device
[17:15] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  "To access the directory with a graphical file browser, run Nautilus as root. Press Alt+F2, type gksu nautilus, and press Enter."
[17:15] <Peasant65> ioria: It gave me unreadable pixelated text the first 2 seconds of boot
[17:16] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, anyway we slice it, i cannot delete the file.  can i share with you my larger issue?
[17:16] <ioria> Peasant65,  you replace with 'text' or with 'systemd.unit=multi-user.target'  ?
[17:16] <younder> Guest68864, http://www.twm-kd.com/linux/realtek-rtl81688111e-and-ubuntu-linux/
[17:17] <Peasant65> ioria: text
[17:17] <ioria> Peasant65,  try the second
[17:17] <Peasant65> ioria: what does the second one do ?
[17:17] <ioria> Peasant65,  the same, but specifically fo 15.10 systemd
[17:17] <Guest68864> younder: wht type of help is there ?
[17:18] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  i often used that method, and always worked ......
[17:18] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, so you could rm a file for instance?
[17:19] <Peasant65> ioria: nothing changed. Still garbage unreadably blocky text during boot for the first ~2 seconds
[17:19] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  yes
[17:19] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, i see
[17:19] <Peasant65> ioria: it's not really a problem though, it does boot to a cli in the correct resolution now
[17:20] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, if i can delete the file, and still have an issue, do you suggest i create a new user ... at least ill be able to log in at all
[17:20] <ioria> Peasant65,  ok... take a read , could be useful http://ask.xmodulo.com/boot-into-command-line-ubuntu-debian.html
[17:20] <Peasant65> ioria: thx :)
[17:21] <ioria> Peasant65,  goo luck. mini-iso is tricky
[17:21] <ioria> *d
[17:21] <younder> Guest68864, kinda arbitrary
[17:21] <Peasant65> ioria: how so? is it that different from the server install >
[17:21] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  boot you system and choose Guest Account
[17:21] <ioria> Peasant65,  yes, a bit
[17:22] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, yes guest works, but i need things a bit more normal than that heh
[17:23] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  mv ~/.config and /compiz    to  ~/config.backup    and  ~/.compiz.backup
[17:23] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  mv ~/.config and /.compiz    to  ~/config.backup    and  ~/.compiz.backup
[17:24] <NapelEoN> a
[17:25] <Peasant65> ioria: well, i got the same problem again, but now after about 4 minutes of no use... Like a screensaver, but it won't wake up from it
[17:25] <ioria> Peasant65,  screensaver ? on cli ?
[17:26] <Peasant65> ioria: I know raspbian has one
[17:26] <ioria> Peasant65,  oh...
[17:26] <lerner> frostschutz, what do I need to backup? my home directory is enough, right?
[17:26] <Peasant65> ioria: but it wakes as soon as you hit spacebar (or probably any other key)
[17:26] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, oh is that all?
[17:27] <ioria> WJ3rd-2   did you backup the two folders  ?
[17:27] <WJ3rd-2> under /home right?  i will backup before  deleting
[17:28] <ioria> WJ3rd-2   no need to delete
[17:28] <WJ3rd-2> waiting for machine to catchup to try deleting .Xauthority first
[17:28] <WJ3rd-2> err mv
[17:28] <younder> Sounds archaic
[17:28] <younder> arn't you using gome
[17:29] <younder> gnome
[17:31] <WJ3rd-2> yes
[17:31] <ioria> WJ3rd-2   still on liveCD ?
[17:32] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, yes i am.  and i dont have gksu to run gksu nautilus.  easy way to install?
[17:32] <ioria> WJ3rd-2   boot the system and open a console
[17:33] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, reboot and do not use live cd?
[17:33] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  your system, not the liveCD
[17:33] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  yes
[17:33] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, well another issue i have is that when i drop and go to a console it doesnt like my root password, but i reset it with the live cd 'passwd root'
[17:33] <WJ3rd-2> and it still doesnt work
[17:34] <WJ3rd-2> or is that a different root?
[17:34] <ioria> !root ! WJ3rd-2
[17:35] <ioria> !root | WJ3rd-2
[17:35] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, ok that makes sense, but it says enter your password or hit control-D, and either way i cant proceed
[17:36] <younder> sudu su &&b paswd rot fuckit && so user just thought I should mention it
[17:36] <younder> the root is inherent in the od sudo can't eraticate it
[17:37] <younder> many people would object tio what I just told you
[17:37] <jimmy51v_> when i boot the 15.10 liveCD, uname -r shows kernel 4.2.  however, ls /lib/modules/ shows a kernel folder of 3.13.  why is that?
[17:37] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, i ran nautilus as root in live dvd and i cannot mv that .Xauthority.  i think theres a step missing
[17:38] <WJ3rd-2> i can see the /home directory but it is encrypted still
[17:38] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  you don't have to move .Xauthority ...
[17:38] <younder> WJ3rd-2, I have had a problem with a encrypted rooot
[17:39] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  if your files are decrypted , should show in /tmp folder ....
[17:39] <younder> WJ3rd-2, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto2
[17:40] <younder> ioria, bulshit
[17:40] <WJ3rd-2> oh i wasnt in /tmp  yes i see it now
[17:41] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  The command will mount the encrypted directory in your /tmp directory.
[17:41] <WJ3rd-2> but i cant touch .Xauthority
[17:41] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  ok.....  ls -l .Xauthority
[17:41] <younder> so much swada anyone on NFS
[17:42] <younder> LOL your all on SAMBA
[17:42] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, -rw------- 1 1000 1000
[17:43] <Peasant65> ioria: Allright, so this has to do with setterm -blank
[17:43] <ioria> Peasant65,  really ?
[17:43] <nrosvall> what big companies are using ubuntu on desktops/workstations? Does anyone know.
[17:43] <Peasant65> ioria: yea, if i put it on 0 the "power saving" stuff doesn't hapen anymore
[17:44] <ioria> WJ3rd-2    i don't think it's a .Xauthority issue ..... you can delete it if you want, will be recreated ... but why ?
[17:44] <ioria> Peasant65,  good
[17:45] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, so that i can login with my normal username
[17:45] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, and avoid the login loop
[17:45] <nacc> nrosvall: offtopic for this channel
[17:46] <WJ3rd-2> can you or someone tell me how i can just get back into ubuntu.  i need to get in quick to do work
[17:46] <ioria> WJ3rd-2    1000 mean your user, not root
[17:46] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, ok so you asked if i could log in as a guest without the live dvd right?  i can do that
[17:47] <WJ3rd-2> ive been at this for over 5 hours
[17:47] <ioria> WJ3rd-2    ok,  and you can't open a console ?
[17:47] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, no i can try again and give you the error message
[17:47] <reisio> WJ3rd-2: after hour four I usually recommend having one's sultry secretary do the rest of the work
[17:49] <ioria> WJ3rd-2 btw, for reset password from liveCd you need to chroot
[17:49] <WJ3rd-2> ioria ok
[17:49] <WJ3rd-2> i am in as guest now
[17:49] <arcsky> hey there is differnt keyboard layout in my shell how can i switch back? i have only ssh access.
[17:50] <ioria> WJ3rd-2 exit and try to open a console
[17:51] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, through recovery right/>
[17:51] <WJ3rd-2> ?
[17:51] <ioria> WJ3rd-2 nope, maybe we can do that after
[17:52] <WJ3rd-2> ioria how shall i get to that console
[17:52] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  ctrl+alt+f1 (or f2)
[17:53] <reisio> arcsky: so you want to change the layout outside of X?
[17:53] <arcsky> reisio: i connect via putty
[17:54] <reisio> arcsky: try: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[17:54] <WJ3rd-2> ioria oh great i am in the console as either the user i want, or root
[17:55] <ioria> WJ3rd-2   you don't use root on Ubuntu
[17:55] <ioria> WJ3rd-2   can you paste  ls -a ~
[17:56] <ioria> WJ3rd-2   sorry   ls -al  ~
[17:56] <WJ3rd-2> ioria not sure what you mean by no root on ubuntu.  i cant really paste from that console.  what can i describe for you
[17:56] <WJ3rd-2> no internet ^^
[17:57] <WJ3rd-2> with that machine
[17:58] <ioria> WJ3rd-2     no internet ?   it means not working, or you don't have it at all on that pc  ?
[17:58] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, im at work and i dont have the wifi password
[17:59] <ioria> WJ3rd-2     ls -al .Xauthority
[17:59] <WJ3rd-2> this machine is tied to the cable
[18:00] <wad> Hey guys, so I just started a new job as a "senior software developer", at a large, well-established company. And I want replace Windows with Ubuntu on the laptop they gave me. But the IT department says they can't let me. There are a handful of us who want Linux... so I'm needing to train the IT guys.
[18:00] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, i need to mount the partition to see that file again, let me do that please
[18:00] <DirtyCajun> when you cp a folder that has a symlinked folder inside it... does it cp the symlink or the actual files? as in... is cp standards to dereference or not dereference
[18:01] <alvarolm_> hi all ! :), is it safe to share an open unix domain socket ???
[18:01] <wad> One of the requirements is that they can remotely administer antivirus programs on the employee's machines. I'm like, "uhhhh....."
[18:01] <WJ3rd-2> ioria uh oh i dont have ecrypt-recover-private right now
[18:01] <WJ3rd-2> nvm
[18:01] <wad> I'd appreciate any links to articles that will help me convince a Windows-centric IT department that Linux can be "secure" in their eyes.
[18:02] <genii> wad: Since this is not really an Ubuntu support question, you might want to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic instead
[18:02] <wad> mmkay, thanks
[18:03] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  if you log in your system, home will be  decrypted  .... no need for  ecrypt-recover-private
[18:04] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, yes thats the issue, cant login... only got the console going on here
[18:04] <Peasant65> All *RandR are part of Xorg right? So if I have no Xorg installed I have nothing to do with them ?
[18:04] <WJ3rd-2> but i cant find anything with that command omfg
[18:04] <WJ3rd-2> gotta mount perhaps
[18:05] <ioria> WJ3rd-2   in console you can log in like with your gui login-screen .... it's the same
[18:06] <WJ3rd-2> ioria yes im logged in
[18:06] <WJ3rd-2> i thought you were saying something else
[18:07] <ioria> WJ3rd-2   run ls  .... the file are clear or encrypted ?
[18:07] <ioria> *s
[18:07] <WJ3rd-2> ioria got it now, its -rw------- 1 myuser myuser
[18:08] <ioria> WJ3rd-2   it's ok..... cat /etc/issue
[18:08] <WJ3rd-2> Ubuntu 15.04 \n \l
[18:09] <ioria> WJ3rd-2   15.04 is dead btw
[18:09] <teward> !15.04 | WJ3rd-2
[18:09] <WJ3rd-2> l not 1 sorry
[18:09] <WJ3rd-2> ioria i know, as of last month... waiting for april's ltr
[18:09] <ioria> WJ3rd-2   pwd
[18:10] <WJ3rd-2> thats /tmp/ecryptfs.voHEWMd8
[18:11] <ioria> WJ3rd-2   still on live CD ?
[18:11] <WJ3rd-2> ioria no, logged in through console like you asked
[18:11] <ioria> WJ3rd-2   cd ~
[18:11] <WJ3rd-2> pwd  is root after cd ~
[18:11] <WJ3rd-2> i mean /root
[18:12] <ioria> WJ3rd-2   nope, your home     username:username    home folder
[18:13] <WJ3rd-2> ioria sry what are you asking for ?  not fully clear
[18:13] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  type   id
[18:13] <cybrNaut> http://www.irssi.org/scripts <= that's a dead link on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi
[18:13] <WJ3rd-2> ioria as user or root?
[18:14] <ioria> WJ3rd-2   as user, always as user, never as root on Ubuntu
[18:15] <WJ3rd-2> ioria you want the whole line?  kinda long
[18:15] <ioria> WJ3rd-2   just the uid
[18:15] <WJ3rd-2> uid=1000(myuser)
[18:15] <ioria> WJ3rd-2   ok,   cd ~  and pwd
[18:16] <WJ3rd-2> cd ~ ... no such file or dir (because that is the encrypted one in /tmp
[18:16] <WJ3rd-2> pwd is in /home
[18:17] <WJ3rd-2> i have /home on a seperate partition
[18:17] <WJ3rd-2> i knew sry
[18:18] <WJ3rd-2> trying to change the system!
[18:19] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  you can't cd in your home folder ?
[18:20] <WJ3rd-2> ioria no i can go to /home/ but not /home/user/ because /home/user/ is under /tmp/that_folder/
[18:20] <WJ3rd-2> i can go there without '~'
[18:20] <sruli> i made a system update using software updater, its been stuck for past hour on "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-67-generic" if i reboot will i have a problem?
[18:21] <WJ3rd-2> i run pwd in that /tmp/that_folder/ and it just lists the same path, /tmp/that_folder/
[18:22] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, make sense?
[18:24] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  well, you used ecryptfs-recover-private from a livecd that mounts the files in a temporary folder .... but after reboot the folder should be gone
[18:25] <cj> howdy homies!
[18:25] <WJ3rd-2> ioria, i ran  ecryptfs-recover-private from console, and it did exactly that in my /tmp/ folder
[18:25] <cj> how do I register a new project on the launchpad?  I don't see a "create" link on the front page...
[18:25] <WJ3rd-2> i did this again after logging into console
[18:25] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  you run it again ?
[18:25] <WJ3rd-2> i had to get the ls on .Xauthority for you
[18:25] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  no
[18:25] <cj> oh look.  https://help.launchpad.net/Projects/Registering
[18:25] <teward> cj: #launchpad
[18:26] <teward> cj: go to that channel for Launchpad specific help.  Also refer to its help docs
[18:26] <teward> cj: if you're logged in and on the front page, "Register a new project"
[18:26] <teward> it's there ;)
[18:26] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  as i said, if you can succesfuly login, the home folder will be decrypted automatically
[18:27] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  no need to run ecryptfs-recover-private
[18:27] <WJ3rd-2> ok i will login again and will check it out, one moment please
[18:28] <WJ3rd-2> thanks for standing b y
[18:28] <WJ3rd-2> by
[18:29] <Industrial> Hi.
[18:29] <Industrial> Is there a PPA for Docker and Docker Compose ?
[18:29] <Industrial> I'm running into problems with docker-compose
[18:30] <Industrial> I get a python stack trace with a valid config file
[18:30] <WJ3rd-2> brb 10 min
[18:30] <hexicpyth> Hi, my son uses this computer at school, and it has ubuntu 14.04 on it. Whenever the he closes the lid, and the laptop sleep/suspends, and he moves to a different area of the school, the wifi menu in ubuntu just doesnt show any networks and wont connect to anything saved, new, or hidden. If he restarts the laptop(really quick with it's ssd), the connections will show up & connect. Is there any way to somehow treat the  sig
[18:30] <hexicpyth> nal extenders all like the same AP? Or maybe to leave wfi on when the computer sleeps? Thanks in advance
[18:31] <trism> cybrNaut: fixed the links
[18:32] <hexicpyth> It has an intel wireless 7620 card, and uses the default "Iwlwifi" driver
[18:33] <mcphail> hexicpyth: that might be a similar issue we see on the Ubuntu phone, where networkmanager takes ages to identify a change of location. I think they are working on a fix...
[18:34] <hexicpyth> mvphail, Would that also explain te wifi disconnecting afterwards, and the restart needed? thanks
[18:34] <hexicpyth> *mcphail
[18:34] <younder> networking nightmare.. ok
[18:34] <younder> let's work it through
[18:35] <mcphail> hexicpyth: yes, I think so. Symptoms sound similar. You might be able to get a temporary fix by disabling and reenabling networking in the config menu
[18:35] <younder> cat /etc/networking/interfaces
[18:35] <younder> are you using network manager=
[18:36] <hexicpyth> me? I think unity comes with network manager right?
[18:36] <younder> What devices do yo have connected+
[18:36] <hexicpyth> I mean, this only happens at his school
[18:36] <younder> Any unususl to unix device drivers?
[18:36] <younder> anything like that
[18:36] <hexicpyth> I dont know everything that is connected. I think it has something to do with the amount of network extenders requires for the building
[18:36] <nacc> hexicpyth: so suspend/resume at home (do you have multiple APs in play at home) works ok?
[18:36] <Pici> !who
[18:37] <hexicpyth> nacc, I tried that, and it connect's fine
[18:37] <nacc> hexicpyth: have you/he tried restarting network manager after s/r at school?
[18:37] <nacc> hexicpyth: rather than restarting, i mean
[18:37] <hexicpyth> and younder, I did check, and the only driver is iwlwifi. I checked with "sudo lshw -C network"
[18:38] <younder> hexicpyth, good boy
[18:38] <younder> ;)
[18:38] <hexicpyth> nacc, no I have not. How would I go about that? would it just be a killall Networkmanager && killall nm-applet thing?
[18:38] <hexicpyth> :)
[18:38] <nacc> hexicpyth: iirc, `sudo service NetworkManager restart` ?
[18:39] <nacc> hexicpyth: it would be interesting to know what's in the logs when it happens too; possibly iwscan output after resume
[18:39] <younder> hexicpyth, you know of: sudo service <name> restart
[18:39] <hexicpyth> Looks like it might work
[18:39] <hexicpyth> I just tried it here, but ill have him try it at school
[18:40] <younder> sudo service networking restart doenst work as well as it used to as it might lleave a few devices hanging, but as a quick and dirty it is worth a try
[18:40] <nacc> hexicpyth: not sure why that's necessary, it shouldn't be ... but could be the effort/bug referred to earlier, or something new
[18:41] <hexicpyth> younder, what do you mean devices hanging? There are no devices plugged into this computer
[18:41] <hexicpyth> (Except for of course all the adapters and motherboard stuff)
[18:43] <younder> nacc: the try it
[18:43] <nacc> younder: ?
[18:43] <lightdeprived> Good day, would anyone be able to assist with a wine related issue?
[18:43] <reisio> no, but some ones might be able to
[18:44] <younder> nacc: are we talking a server or a desktop conf?
[18:45] <lightdeprived> desktop
[18:45] <WJ3rd-2> ioria
[18:45] <lightdeprived> sorry, wrong guy :)
[18:45] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  yep
[18:45] <hexicpyth> nacc, I think you PM'ed me. No I have not tried yet
[18:46] <younder> lightdeprived, What us this wine issue?
[18:46] <WJ3rd-2> ioria oh good.  no im not seeing my /home/myuser/ folder
[18:46] <jwitko> Hey guys, I'm having issues rebooting my server on Ubuntu 14.04.4.  a command of "shutdown -vr now" shows this on the console indefinitely until I reboot:  http://i.imgur.com/qu7WTiV.jpg  -  Can anyone help?
[18:46] <WJ3rd-2> after logging in
[18:46] <lightdeprived> I install winehq-devel from the official ppa, and removed it using apt-get purge. Now when I try to install it again I get the error "Command 'wine' not found"
[18:47] <ioria> WJ3rd-2  so, decryption not working ....
[18:47] <Pici> lightdeprived: what command are you actually running to install it?
[18:47] <younder> WJ3rd-2, do yo have an encrypted home directory?
[18:47] <lightdeprived> Pici: sudo apt-get install --install-recommends winehq-devel
[18:47] <WJ3rd-2> younder yes
[18:48] <Mia> hy all
[18:48] <WJ3rd-2> on its own partition too
[18:48] <Mia> I have lxde setup on ubuntu server
[18:48] <Mia> how can I stop it frm auto log in to the startx
[18:48] <WJ3rd-2> or maybe the partition is encrypted too, dont recall
[18:48] <younder> WJ3rd-2, for wht i'ts woth so do I. And it has happened to me
[18:48] <Pici> lightdeprived: can you pastebin the exact error?
[18:48] <Mia> I don2t want it to auto login to desktop
[18:48] <Mia> any way to stop this ?
[18:49] <WJ3rd-2> there was an error that fsck fixed, but i cant login now
[18:49] <WJ3rd-2> the error was on that home drive/partition
[18:49] <WJ3rd-2> ioria any ideas on how to proceed?
[18:49] <younder> WJ3rd-2, http://askubuntu.com/questions/115497/encrypted-home-directory-not-auto-mounting
[18:49] <lightdeprived> Pici: http://pastebin.com/Vy4TRSAa
[18:50] <Pici> lightdeprived: er, did you successfully install winehq-devel?
[18:50] <lightdeprived> Yes
[18:51] <lightdeprived> Pici: http://pastebin.com/DVttWdzC
[18:51] <younder> WJ3rd-2, How have you partioned your drive? nonstadard or did you go with stock
[18:52] <WJ3rd-2> younder usually start with stock and customize a bit
[18:52] <sruli> i made a system update using software updater, its been stuck for past hour on "update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-67-generic" if i reboot will i have a problem?
[18:53] <younder> WJ3rd-2, You have either created new partions or you have not.. Whch is it?
[18:54] <nacc> sruli: it is possible you will not be able to boot successfully into that kernel if you don't let it finish; do you have any binary modules?
[18:55] <Pici> lightdeprived: You may want to ask the folks in #winehq about this.
[18:55] <lightdeprived> Pici: okay thank you
[18:56] <sruli> nacc: not sure if i have binary, just made regular update using software updater
[18:57] <younder> nacc I have had a standart updater not bot
[18:57] <younder> nacc had to go into grub and boot into shell
[18:58] <younder> nacc ten I could fix the graphicsdriver mistake
[18:58] <nacc> younder: ? I don't know why you are directing that at me, I didn't interact with you?
[18:59] <trspam> buonasera
[19:00] <flopsec> Hello, I'm having an issue with OpenVPN: I can connect to the VPN, but then the internet doesn't work.  Any ideas?
[19:02] <math854> hello
[19:02] <younder> flopsec, yes, You need to change the default internet option to bridge
[19:03] <hinnerk> Hi. I have a samba question. smb.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15554317  The shared 'shared' should be so, that all users in the group 'gshared' are allowed to read/write/delete files in the share. Since I force group to gshared, I would have expected that this works - but it doesn't. What am I doing wrong?
[19:04] <flopsec> Where do I do that?
[19:04] <younder> flopsec, http://askubuntu.com/questions/499318/virtual-machine-ubuntu-cannot-connect-to-internet
[19:05] <sruli> nacc: i rebooted into previous kernel made apt-get install -f and rebooted into new kernel, dont know if the install -f was required but works
[19:06] <nacc> sruli: that was probably the smart thing to do :) glad it worked
[19:06] <sruli> thanks
[19:09] <sruli> i am trying to use by bluetooth headset with A2DP but can't get teh mic to work in that mode, is this expected? ubuntu 14.04
[19:14] <TheMarius> KUBUNTU BABY! This rox... wish rolling release were doable. install once, then set.
[19:20] <kolesekanisius> Hello! I got my flashdrive detected in lsusb but not in fdisk -l. What should do? What log should I post here to get help?
[19:20] <horiz0n> hi
[19:21] <EriC^^> kolesekanisius: dmesg | tail
[19:21] <EriC^^> after you plug it in
[19:22] <horiz0n> I've prepared preseed file
[19:22] <horiz0n> and installation fails on kenerl-generic installatio
[19:22] <horiz0n> http://s22.postimg.org/h65m7plbl/IMG_20160329_172224451.jpg
[19:23] <horiz0n> any idea why?
[19:27] <kolesekanisius_2> EriC^^, Sorry here is the pastebin http://pastebin.com/GqG19fLp .
[19:27] <kolesekanisius_2> EriC^^, for dmesg | tail
[19:29] <usuario_> senha
[19:29] <m15k> Hi I'm looking for a web interface for managing package updates of my lxc containers. Any suggestions? Open Source would be nice.
[19:30] <EriC^^> kolesekanisius: try sudo parted -l
[19:31] <horiz0n> m15k: I don't think it is possible to get help there
[19:31] <kolesekanisius_3> EriC^^, Do you have any chance to write something? My laptop always freeze sometimes after I attached the flash drive :(.
[19:31] <kolesekanisius_3> EriC^^, Okay sudo parted -l.
[19:31] <m15k> horiz0n why? A per server interface would be a good start.
[19:32] <kolesekanisius_3> EriC^^, Error: /dev/mmcblk0rpmb: unrecognised disk label
[19:32] <kolesekanisius_3> Warning: Error fsyncing/closing /dev/mmcblk0rpmb: Input/output error
[19:32] <kolesekanisius_3> EriC^^, Retry/Ignore?
[19:32] <horiz0n> it seems there are bots only here
[19:33] <Pici> horiz0n: negative
[19:34] <EriC^^> kolesekanisius_3: try cat /proc/partitions
[19:35] <horiz0n> Pici: any idea why linux-generic installation fails?
[19:36] <paragon> Hi
[19:37] <horiz0n> hi paragon
[19:39] <kolesekanisius_3> EriC^^, It is there.
[19:39] <kolesekanisius_3> major minor  #blocks  name
[19:39] <kolesekanisius_3>  179        0   61071360 mmcblk0
[19:39] <kolesekanisius_3>  179        1     524288 mmcblk0p1
[19:39] <kolesekanisius_3>  179        2   56471552 mmcblk0p2
[19:39] <kolesekanisius_3>  179        3    4073472 mmcblk0p3
[19:40] <Pici> horiz0n: weird that its trying to install linux-image-extra-3.13.10-24, it shopuld be pulling in 3.13.0-83
[19:41] <horiz0n> yes
[19:41] <horiz0n> it was working fine
[19:41] <horiz0n> today i've configured reprepro
[19:41] <horiz0n> added package
[19:42] <horiz0n> then added local repo to preseed
[19:42] <EriC^^> kolesekanisius_3: pastebin it
[19:42] <nacc> horiz0n: try removing local repo and see if it goes away?
[19:42] <horiz0n> and tried to install ubuntu with that package
[19:42] <horiz0n> so far i've removed this package from tasksel
[19:42] <horiz0n> but it keeps failing
[19:42] <horiz0n> nacc: i'll try tomorrow
[19:43] <cybrNaut> trism: thanks
[19:43] <kolesekanisius_3> EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/0CAH5AVw . It is partition with mmcblk0rpmb.
[19:44] <zhxk82> hello? i cant send to #freenode
[19:44] <Pici> zhxk82: Not much we can do about it. Just wait until their voicing thing triggers.
[19:45] <horiz0n> but to be honest this shouldn't have an effect
[19:45] <Skyrider> Is it possible to soft-restart ubuntu from shell? eg.. logout -> login (automated) seeing its done through the terminal.
[19:47] <Skyrider> With automated, I mean auto re-login.
[19:48] <urthmover> Skyrider: are you using ssh?
[19:48] <Skyrider> yup, no desktop.
[19:48] <urthmover> why not logoff and back in over ssh?
[19:48] <Skyrider> I need to free up memory, and restart all the software.
[19:49] <Skyrider> If I restart my pi, it'll force a fsck.
[19:49] <Skyrider> I don't want that.. so was thinking about logging out / logging in instead.
[19:49] <urthmover> hmm
[19:49] <urthmover> can't you kill processes and restart them?
[19:51] <urthmover> maybe restart services
[19:52] <jatt> what's wrong with fsck?
[19:53] <paragon__> qwerty
[19:53] <Skyrider> jatt: on a pi, it's terrible.
[19:54] <Skyrider> Takes ages, and never finishes. Am forced to do it on a linux system, which also takes about 20/30min.
[19:54] <zhxk82> gentleman, suggest me an Irc client for ubuntu cli, thank you!
[19:54] <kazuka> hi
[19:54] <urthmover> zhxk82: irssi
[19:55] <kazuka> what kind of technology is raspberry pi, arduino and minnowmax board
[19:57] <guntbert> kazuka: that's not really an Ubuntu support question, is it?
[19:57] <jason__> can someone recommend a good desktop recorder? I tried kazam and it's awful.
[19:58] <jason__> I'd like to be able to record a single window without selecting a rectangle around it
[20:00] <zhxk82> !paste
[20:01] <kolesekanisius_3> EriC^^, I got disconnected do you happen to replied to me?
[20:01] <guntbert> !askthebot | zhxk82
[20:04] <momelod> greetings channel.
[20:04] <Jennifer_> hello
[20:04] <momelod> im hosting a local ubuntu mirror and on my hosts i get this error: W: GPG error: http://repo.dev precise Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 7B92F0966226E616
[20:05] <momelod> 7B92F0966226E616 is getting generated locally its not on any public keyserver
[20:05] <Jennifer_> Anyone good with SSh issues? I had some trouble with my server last night
[20:05] <Jennifer_> *SSH
[20:05] <momelod> how do i find which Release file is signed with that pubkey
[20:07] <momelod> Jennifer_: whats the ssh issue
[20:08] <Jennifer_> momelod: last night i was copying some files for my plex server when the connection cut out on FTP and SSH. tried again this morning to connect but no dice.
[20:09] <Jennifer_> there both on port 22 also
[20:09] <bekks> Jennifer_: FTP is port 21, SSH is port 22, SFTP is ung SSH and is on port 22, too.
[20:10] <Jennifer_> bekks: my bad. your right
[20:10] <Jennifer_> i did some restarting but nothing
[20:10] <Jennifer_> got any idea what may have caused this?
[20:10] <bekks> Jennifer_: some restarting what?
[20:11] <bekks> And caused what?
[20:11] <Jennifer_> i restarted my server and modem
[20:12] <bekks> Jennifer_: I dont see why restarting the server and modem will solve any issues, which arent even described yet.
[20:12] <Jennifer_> bekks: my SFTP and SSH connections cut out randomly last night for some reason
[20:13] <bekks> Jennifer_: And which error messages did you get when trying to reconnect?
[20:13] <Jennifer_> they were both timing out
[20:13] <bekks> Jennifer_: The the remote server did not answer.
[20:14] <saulus> hi, I just found that f-spot is not dead. There is a maintained fork and a ppa at https://launchpad.net/~christopher-hoskin/+archive/ubuntu/ppa - however f-spot doesnt show up in apt-get nor aptitude after an update. What could be the issue?
[20:15] <Jennifer_> right, but it just seemed odd for it to be working fine before but now nothing
[20:15] <bekks> Jennifer_: Then the remote server isnt answering, and restarting your client will not change that.
[20:16] <Pici> saulus: that ppa only has f-spot packages for vivid and xenial.
[20:16] <saulus> Pici: can I force the download in my 15.10 somehow?
[20:16] <Jennifer_> is it possible the ports could have closed for some reason?
[20:16] <Pici> saulus: not really
[20:17] <saulus> Pici: Thank you. Then I build the package locally.
[20:17] <bekks> Jennifer_: On the remote server, maybe.
[20:17] <Jennifer_> ahh
[20:17] <Jennifer_> still pretty weird for me
[20:18] <Jennifer_> on my main PC i was connected to my VPN also
[20:18] <Jennifer_> while i was transfering files
[20:18] <bekks> Jennifer_: And on your other PC you werent?
[20:19] <Jennifer_> but that prob wasnt the case either because i tried connecting without it
[20:19] <Jennifer_> no my server wasnt on the VPN
[20:19] <Jennifer_> its primarily used for Plex
[20:19] <bekks> Jennifer_: Sorry, I dont get that setup.
[20:20] <Jennifer_> what bekks ?
[20:20] <bekks> Jennifer_: "main computer", "the other one", "vpn".
[20:20] <bekks> Jennifer_: Which computer is where, how are they connected?
[20:20] <EriC^^> kolesekanisius_3: are you sure rpmb is the partition?
[20:21] <Jennifer_> im sorry. my server is wired and my main pc is where i was copying the files to my server.
[20:23] <bekks> Jennifer_: And both are at the same location?
[20:23] <hoodedice> I have a dual-boot system with xubuntu 14.04 LTS and Windows 10. Is there a way for me to use the xubuntu instance I have like one would a VM while booted into windows?
[20:23] <Jennifer_> well in my house yes but both are in seperate rooms if that helps
[20:24] <bekks> Jennifer_: So check wether the ssh server on the remote computer (the one you were trying to connect to) are running correctly.
[20:24] <Jennifer_> guess i gotta look around for a spare monitor
[20:24] <\9> try ssh -v in case it prints any useful information
[20:36] <frenda> I'm seeing a training video. The user type 'mate .' in a MAC' terminal and an editor raise up.
[20:36] <frenda> here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdSoEkeMXVM
[20:37] <frenda> I tried kate and some others
[20:37] <frenda> they can't
[20:37] <bekks> they cant what?
[20:37] <frenda> 00:00:20
[20:37] <Melio> you can script bash to launch gedit or kate or mate,
[20:37] <Melio> simple aliases
[20:37] <bekks> frenda: I'm not going to watch that video.
[20:38] <Melio> frenda, google linux bash aliases
[20:38] <frenda> bekks cant open the current directory showing available files in sidebar
[20:38] <bekks> frenda: never heard of such a feature.
[20:39] <tgm4883> bekks: I took a look. Basically, it's a graphical editor that has the directory in the sidebar
[20:39] <bekks> tgm4883: ah, hmm, ok. :)
[20:40] <tgm4883> I think I've seen something in Kubuntu do stuff like that, but I've not used Kubuntu in a long time
[20:42] <frenda> Kubuntu stuff: Kwrite and Kate; They couldn't. I need sth like that for demonstration
[20:42] <tgm4883> frenda: I'm assuming you looked through the different options in them?
[20:44] <phaidros> my gpg keys are not unlocked automatically anymore, how can I fix that? what is the default gpg agent in ubuntu these days? seahorse?
[20:45] <bprompt> frenda:    what hmmm do you need the editor to do?   Kate does have a "file browser", check the sidebar
[20:46] <tgm4883> frenda: bprompt is right  http://kate-editor.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/projects1.png
[20:50] <leeg750jm> hello all
[20:52] <buu> Hello friends, how do I make X respect my --dpi setting and make text slightly larger than 2px by 2px
[20:55] <uhollis> ?
[20:56] <buu> I'm running vlc inside xorg
[20:57] <buu> the font is approximately .01 inches tall
[20:57] <buu> How do I fix?
[20:59] <mjoelner> Do you have to tune Ubuntu a lot to work with your computer. I feel that my Ubuntu installtion is sluggish compared to my windows one.
[21:01] <bprompt> mjoelner:    depends I gather, from my experience, not drivers-wise, since the drivers database manages most hardware well enough
[21:07] <bprompt> buu:    if you're referring to the Menu buttons or windows, I believe VLC uses GTK settings for that, so...  you can change the gtk theme setting for the font, to be increased to whichever size, I think you can use "gnome-tweak-tool" for that
[21:07] <buu> um
[21:07] <buu> scary
[21:10] <bprompt> buu:    assuming vlc is using gtk3 theming, then it'd be just a matter of css, since gtk3 themes are pretty much just css code wise, if it's using gtk2 settings hmmm you could use something like gtk-chtheme UI to change it, though it's also code, just less flexible than CSS, but usually the "active theme" will have a subfolder gtk2 and gtk3 for each settings
[21:11] <kaudley> Have a question on ubuntu server - I have a Kaveri APU - I run Server with no gui - will the amdgpu driver utilize the unused graphics cores at all?
[21:11] <kaudley> for compute
[21:12] <EOBeav> I'm starting to wonder if 14.04--as I have it loaded, anyway--is too much for my 9 y/o dual core laptop. It's starting to hang up an awful lot.
[21:12] <dontknow> kaudley, i don't think so
[21:14] <kaudley> seems like an awful waste having those 8 Graphics cores sitting there doing nothing...  :(
[21:19] <BlackMage> EOBeav: it depends on the version of Ubuntu and of course also on the laptop
[21:21] <EOBeav> 14.04 ubuntu, 2G of RAM
[21:22] <EOBeav> I don't mind Unity, but really only use ubuntu for a launching pad for the apps
[21:23] <BlackMage> EOBeav: try it with Xubuntu or Lubuntu
[21:25] <JohnnyL> why when using iptables dns fails (but everything else works)?
[21:25] <gnarlin> blocking low range ports by accident?
[21:26] <bekks> JohnnyL: Blocking needed ports?
[21:26] <JohnnyL> 53 in udp and tcp are both openb as ACCEPT in both INPUT and OUTPUT.
[21:26] <JohnnyL> same script works fine in debian.
[21:26] <JohnnyL> anyone have any samples?
[21:26] <bekks> JohnnyL: So check all other rules.
[21:26] <bekks> JohnnyL: our samples will not help you fixing your sample ;)
[21:26] <JohnnyL> bekks: i am telling you this is ubuntu specific.
[21:26] <gnarlin> try disabling iptables and see if it works first before spending lots of time figuring out the rules
[21:27] <bekks> JohnnyL: And I am telling you this is config dependant.
[21:27] <JohnnyL> if I change OUTPUT to ACCEPT everything works.
[21:27] <bekks> So it is your config.
[21:27] <JohnnyL> and when I just use it as is, i can ping any address, it's just not resolving hostnames.
[21:29] <JohnnyL> bekks: same script works fine in debian.
[21:29] <bekks> JohnnyL: So check your iptables config.
[21:30] <JohnnyL> it's like ubuntu doesn't want you to filter output? perhaps becasue it wants to talk to home and update it's master server?
[21:30] <JohnnyL> bekks: done 100x. :)
[21:30] <bekks> JohnnyL: How are we supposed to tell you without seeing that script, without seeing your config, etc.?
[21:30] <grhthy> hi guys
[21:30] <grhthy> do you recommend using open source amd driver over fglrx?
[21:31] <grhthy> I'm not sure if I should upgrade to 16.04 without FGLRX
[21:31] <JohnnyL> bekks: you can tell me, by showing me a sample script that includes 'iptables --policy OUTPUT DROP' and works with dns.
[21:31] <leeg750jm> is there a windows support irc
[21:31] <bekks> JohnnyL: how about you showing us your non working sample?
[21:32] <bekks> leeg750jm: Yes, ##windows
[21:32] <JohnnyL> bekks: are you serious? what sense would a firewall be if I put it online?
[21:32] <EOBeav> BlackMage: Yeah, will probably do xubuntu. I've run it before and it works fine in that machine. I guess this is the first ubuntu version that stutters. Not bad for a 9 year old laptop
[21:32] <JohnnyL> my request is not as difficult as your is.
[21:32] <bekks> JohnnyL: But putting my config online is ok? You are kidding.
[21:33] <JohnnyL> bekks: apparently you don't default OUTPUT as drop.
[21:33] <bekks> JohnnyL: Apparently you failed at guessing my config.
[21:33] <JohnnyL> bekks: can you cut and paste the specific not the whole thing?
[21:36] <JohnnyL> yeah thats what I thought
[21:38] <JohnnyL> may switch back to debian.
[21:43] <JohnnyL> looks like a major debug feature in ubuntu!
[21:45] <JohnnyL> i know the ubuntu server records things about the user and sends it back to hqs. i guess this iptables tables features exist so you can't block the transmissions.
[21:46] <bekks> JohnnyL: Thats nonsense.
[21:46] <JohnnyL> bekks: oh?
[21:46] <bekks> JohnnyL: No Ubuntu collects user information and no Ubuntu sends them back to whomever.
[21:46] <JohnnyL> bekks: malarky! i read it in server online techynical news articles.
[21:47] <bekks> JohnnyL: Whatever you read can safely be considered as FUD.
[21:47] <JohnnyL> bekks: you not solving my problem just compounds this idea as proof.
[21:48] <k1l> JohnnyL: that is false informations you got there.
[21:51] <JohnnyL> k1l: prove it
[21:51] <k1l> JohnnyL: no. you prove your accusations  first
[21:52] <tgm4883> can we all simmer down now?
[21:52] <fancyfetus> Hey guys
[21:53] <fancyfetus> You know how LinusTechTips's 7 gamers 1 cpu video? Is there a way to do that on a smaller scale with windows and ubuntu? I'd like to run them side by side without one being the host for the other.
[21:53] <bekks> fancyfetus: then you'd need two computers.
[21:54] <fancyfetus> bekks, have you seen the video I'm talking about?
[21:54] <teward> fancyfetus: you can't do that without one being the host for the other - you need separate systems at that place.
[21:54] <teward> s/place/point/
[21:54] <fancyfetus> He uses unraid as a host and has 7 VMs running on one machine.
[21:54] <bekks> fancyfetus: Nope. But running different OS without using an hypervisor can only be done by using two computers.
[21:54] <teward> fancyfetus: right, but VMs are Virtual Machines.
[21:54] <fancyfetus> yes, I understand that.
[21:54] <teward> fancyfetus: unraid handles the hypervisor role in this place.
[21:55] <fancyfetus> But in his case, one instance of windows wasn't hosting the other instances of windows.
[21:55] <tgm4883> fancyfetus: I'm not sure you are grasping what you are asking "I'd like to run them side by side without one being the host for the other."
[21:55] <fancyfetus> unraid was hosting them all. He was getting fairly good performance out of it too.
[21:55] <teward> fancyfetus: I have a VMware ESXi workstation.  It has a nVidia card, and runs five Windows VMs.  The Windows VMs all can run graphics real decently.
[21:55] <bekks> fancyfetus: because unraid was the hypervisor, and all windows instances were vms.
[21:56] <teward> fancyfetus: VMware ESXi is the hypervisor.  It's not Windows.  The Windows VMs are accessing resources on the hypervisor.
[21:56] <teward> Hypervisor doesn't need to be windows.
[21:56] <fancyfetus> No, I understand that. I want to run both windows and ubuntu as a VM
[21:56] <fancyfetus> at the same time through one GPU
[21:56] <tgm4883> fancyfetus: ok, and?
[21:56] <bekks> fancyfetus: then you still need an OS acting as the hypervisor.
[21:57] <fancyfetus> bekks, my question was going to be if somebody could recommend one.
[21:57] <bekks> fancyfetus: Virtualbox, KVM, XEN.
[21:57] <fancyfetus> bekks, virtualbox can act as a hypervisor OS?
[21:58] <bekks> fancyfetus: No.
[21:58] <JohnnyL> aparently, you can't have -t filter as part of the command for iptables.
[21:58] <bekks> fancyfetus: All hypervisors mentioned above are hypervisors. You need an OS, too.
[21:58] <fancyfetus> I'm looking for as much performance as I can squeeze out of this
[21:58] <bekks> fancyfetus: Like Virtualbox running on Ubuntu. Like KVM running on Ubuntu. etc.
[21:59] <fancyfetus> I see.
[21:59] <hexrain> so, i'm having a strange issue
[21:59] <hexrain> with my clock
[21:59] <fancyfetus> Would it benefit me to have a really lightweight OS as the host?
[21:59] <bekks> fancyfetus: No.
[22:00] <fancyfetus> Why's that?
[22:00] <MonkeyDust> fancyfetus  first try this command  ... egrep -c '(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation
[22:00] <bekks> fancyfetus: In fact, you just need one VM. Like Ubuntu host, Windows VM, or vice versa.
[22:00] <hexrain> for some odd reason, my clock keeps setting itself a few days in the future
[22:01] <hexrain> it happens when i wake my system up from suspend
[22:02] <fancyfetus> Hmm, I was under the impression that unraid was providing some sort of performance edge to Linus.
[22:02] <bekks> fancyfetus: Which is a wrong assumption.
[22:02] <Bashing-om> hexrain: Dual booting Windows ... amd Windows controls the hardware clock ??
[22:02] <hexrain> nope
[22:03] <hexrain> that's why it's strange
[22:05] <lvdb> Hello everyone, i would like to test MD5 authentication query for an NTP server i set up and i was wondering if you happen to know a linux command that will query the server using the MD5 key
[22:06] <hexrain> and it only happens when i wake from suspend :/
[22:06] <fancyfetus> MonkeyDust, my cpu has both VT-x and VT-d
[22:06] <fancyfetus> I should be okay
[22:07] <roygbiv> lvdb, i’m not sure what you’re looking for but there’s the md5 shell command that’ll generate an md5 hash from supplied text
[22:07] <Bashing-om> hexrain: Agreed, strange, is " UTC=yes " set in the file /etc/default/rcS ?
[22:08] <hexrain> yep
[22:09] <lvdb> @roybgiv thanks for the reply, but what i need is just to query the server using ntpd or something like that with the MD5 key i have. something like using snmpwalk
[22:09] <Bashing-om> hexrain: Sorry, I do not know enough about the resume process to offer an explanation of what is taking place .
[22:09] <hexrain> what it does, is it sets the date to April 1, 2016 and the time to about 4 hours before my actual one
[22:09] <hexrain> my BIOS is fine btw :/
[22:10] <hexrain> well, it's a UEFI system if that helps.
[22:10] <roygbiv> lvdb, oh wow, not sure on that one. maybe ntpdate?
[22:12] <JohnnyL> kil: 'Egregious' in the immortal words of rms himself. Ubuntu users *might* one to see this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8CNp-vksc. If you wish to say anything about this kil, now would be the perfect time.
[22:13] <skinux> Is there a command/program that will give all system info, including disk size, memory, and all that?
[22:14] <JohnnyL> skinux: top
[22:14] <sashaxxx> hello
[22:14] <hexrain> oh and it does it whether or not i have the thing set to use network time or not
[22:14] <sashaxxx> please can you give me a quick hint?
[22:14] <k1l> JohnnyL: still no prove for your accusations that ubuntu sends everything even on the server install to "the hqs"
[22:14] <sashaxxx> just a simple answer
[22:14] <skinux> JohnnyL: I don't mean usage, I just mean what the machine has
[22:15] <k1l> skinux: look at "lshw"
[22:15] <sashaxxx> please. i am stuck in an installation and i cant continue
[22:15] <sashaxxx> i will not take you much time
[22:15] <k1l> sashaxxx: which ubuntu? what exact error?
[22:16] <sashaxxx> nope
[22:16] <sashaxxx> ubuntu 15.10
[22:16] <JohnnyL> k1l: Everything you type into the search box gets send to hqs.
[22:16] <sashaxxx> it is already installed.. now i am installing debian on second partition
[22:16] <JohnnyL> What is not to say that anything else is?
[22:16] <Bashing-om> sashaxxx: ^^ and is this a EFI system ?
[22:16] <sashaxxx> yes
[22:16] <JohnnyL> I'm assuming NSA has a few backdoors to boot.
[22:16] <JohnnyL> Just for kickers.
[22:16] <tgm4883> JohnnyL: why would the NSA have backdoors into Ubuntu?
[22:16] <sashaxxx> the fact is.. it's asking me where i want to install the grub
[22:17] <JohnnyL> tgm4883: pedophilic linuxers prolly.
[22:17] <sashaxxx> for this debian
[22:17] <tgm4883> that doesn't even make sense
[22:17] <popey> JohnnyL: enough.
[22:17] <sashaxxx> but i have already installed GRUB bootloader for Ubuntu in sda1
[22:18] <k1l> sashaxxx: you can only have 1 OS manage the grub.
[22:18] <sashaxxx> so i m confused now... where am i supposed to install the grub bootloader gaian
[22:18] <k1l> sashaxxx: i would let  that OS manage the grub, that you boot more often.
[22:18] <sashaxxx> so... i dont have to install it?
[22:18] <Bashing-om> sashaxxx: EFI, where sda1 is the fat partition containing each OS's boot code  ??
[22:19] <sashaxxx> yes... sda1 contain the boot loader
[22:19] <sashaxxx> sda2 contain Ubuntu installed
[22:19] <sashaxxx> and now i am installing debian in sda 4
[22:19] <bekks> sashaxxx: you mean you are using sda1 as /boot and installing the bootloader to sda?
[22:20] <sashaxxx> i dont want to mess it all.. so now it's asking me where to install grub
[22:20] <sashaxxx> i dont know... this debian installer it's just asking me where i want to install the GRUB .. but i have already installed GRUB on sda1 qhen i installed ubuntu before
[22:21] <bekks> sashaxxx: Then how did you boot your box before? With grub installed to sda1 it wont boot.
[22:22] <sashaxxx> i used to boot with GRUB on sda1.. and ubuntu on sda2
[22:22] <bekks> sashaxxx: with the bootloader not being on sda it wouldnt boot.
[22:22] <bekks> sashaxxx: do you use sda1 as /boot?
[22:23] <sashaxxx> i m confused
[22:23] <sashaxxx> well actually i dont know
[22:23] <k1l> sashaxxx: you dont need to install grub again. you can boot ubuntu, run "sudo update-grub" and the entry for debian will be added"
[22:23] <sashaxxx> all i can tell you that i have the screenshot from gparted
[22:23] <sashaxxx> ok
[22:24] <sashaxxx> this is what i wanted to hear
[22:24] <sashaxxx> in-fact i am not sure where grub was installed
[22:24] <sashaxxx> i just know i have this sda1 partition called /boot
[22:24] <Jordan_U> sashaxxx: Unless you have more than one drive, select "sda" as the place to install grub's boot sector. Do not install grub's boot sector to any partition like sda1. That question is only asking about where grub's *boot sector* should be installed, and the answer is always "to the MBR of the drive your BIOS will boot from", i.e. sda if you only have one drive.
[22:25] <sashaxxx> ok so...
[22:25] <sashaxxx> what you suggest: 1) do not install GRUB again. 2) install GRUB on the master sda?
[22:26] <k1l> sashaxxx: the best is to let the OS you boot more often handle grub. so 1) if its ubuntu, 2) if its the debian
[22:27] <sashaxxx> this was gparted situation: http://i.imgur.com/EnuIjYX.png
[22:27] <mjoelner> is this a crappy cpu AMD A10-8700 APU ?
[22:28] <sashaxxx> so... considering i am using mainly Ubuntu... should i chose CONTINUE WITHOUT BOOTLOADER from this installer now?
[22:29] <k1l> mjoelner: for hardware experience or benchmarks better ask ##hardware or #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:29] <k1l> sashaxxx: yes
[22:29] <sashaxxx> ok. thanks so much
[22:30] <sashaxxx> hope it's gonna work :)
[22:30] <Jordan_U> sashaxxx: Be sure you have a loveCD/USB on hand in case it doesn't and you need to fix things, but it probably will :)
[22:31] <sashaxxx> yea
[22:31] <Jordan_U> sashaxxx: Run "sudo update-grub" after installing Debian to get it added to Ubuntu's grub menu.
[22:31] <k1l> well, he just needs to boot ubuntu, run "sudo update-grub".
[22:31] <sashaxxx> thanks guys
[22:32] <sashaxxx> i stay connected and update you
[22:33] <Jordan_U> k1l: If at some point in their repartitioning they changed the partition number for Ubuntu's /boot/ then they'll get a grub rescue shell at the next boot, but gparted and d-i avoid renumbering existing partitions so it will probably be fine.
[22:35] <ManDrake13> Is there a non-reinstall way to get around the python3 error that I got when I upgraded from 14.04 to 15.10?
[22:36] <sashaxxx> ok
[22:36] <sashaxxx> at the moment debian is not present in boot loader choices
[22:37] <sashaxxx> i try to update the grub in a while
[22:37] <TheMarius> at the moment ubuntu is it for the average user, i just wish they had a rolling release version
[22:38] <sashaxxx> well... i am a almost-noob user :)
[22:38] <TheMarius> i used linux mint as my daily os 10 years ago then stopped because of bug regression + i had a period i gamed alot
[22:38] <mcphail> ManDrake13: did you go straight from 14.04 to 15.10? If so, that is unsupported and you have a broken system. Reinstall
[22:38] <TheMarius> now im back to linux (kubuntu)
[22:38] <sashaxxx> it looks like debian is added
[22:38] <sashaxxx> let's restart
[22:39] <ManDrake13> Thanks mcphail
[22:40] <sashaxxx> PERFECT - GOT IT!
[22:40] <sashaxxx> i would never made it up without your help guys
[22:41] <cvr>  /quit
[22:44] <rhorse> Hi, how can I increase font size in tty terminal? I tried setfont but I get message that 'could not get a descriptor of terminal.' Is there an easy fix?
[22:48] <Bashing-om> rhorse: See: " # The resolution used on graphical terminal " in the config file /etc/default/grub . Maybe ?
[22:48] <zykotick9> rhorse: i'm not sure if it works the same in ubuntu, but you could try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup"
[22:49] <sebsebseb> hi
[22:49] <zykotick9> rhorse: if it's just a resolution issue, you might want to check out fbset
[22:49] <sebsebseb> oh zykotick9
[22:49] <zykotick9> sebsebseb: \o  long time
[22:49] <sebsebseb> zykotick9: yeah pm me :d
[22:50] <rhorse> sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[22:52] <stacks88> so ive got a virtual machine created using virtualbox.. the vm's disk has grown to 93gb even after ive cleared the space inside the vm to 25gb.. so ive been told i can boot a live cd on the vm and use the zerofree command on /dev/sda1 to shrink the disk back closer to what its actually using. of course i have to power down the vm and run vboxmanage compact command against the virtual disk..
[22:52] <stacks88> but my question is, is there any chance that the zerofree command could cause any loss of data? pretty much why i havent done this stuff yet
[22:53] <bekks> stacks88: For zerofree support, contact Microsoft ;)
[22:53] <bekks> If used correctly, it will not cause loss of data.
[22:53] <stacks88> well i thought zerofree is a linux command
[22:53] <gde33> I was wondering, how are the default applications chosen for ubuntu?
[22:53] <stacks88> so its a microsoft product? zerofree - zero free blocks from ext2, ext3 and ext4 file-systems
[22:53] <bekks> Ah, I mixed that up. sdelete is that ;S thing.
[22:54] <roygbiv> how can one use zerfree incorrectly?
[22:54] <roygbiv> zerofree*
[22:54] <stacks88> roygbiv: ive never used it, so im just asking just to be sure
[22:54] <Lefty_> Im looking for help finding a driver for an audio interface.  Focusrite Scarlett 2i2
[22:54] <bekks> stacks88: Just take a backup before using it.
[22:55] <rhorse> zykotick9: thanks dpkg-reconfigure does the trick. :)
[22:55] <zykotick9> rhorse: glad to help.
[22:56] <rhorse> zykotick9: this is a brand new laptop. First trip through ubuntu, been a gentoo user last 10 years.
[22:57] <meem> rhorse: welcome
[22:58] <zykotick9> rhorse: good luck.  BIG change from gentoo...  /me used gentoo a million moons ago, took a week to compile xorg/gnome on a P3-450mhz ;)
[22:58] <rhorse> Thank you. I wasn't sure everything was going to work, it being a bleeding edge chipset. But everything does work. It's nice not having to compile and configure everything! :0
[22:59] <meem> rhorse: but sure your expert now with linux !
[22:59] <rhorse> meem: that's true. Gentoo is a great classroom
[23:09] <goddard> what is a game similar to starcraft that works on Linux
[23:09] <nicomachus> goddard: try #gamingonlinux
[23:10] <goddard> nicomachus: i dont want wine
[23:10] <kus> hi synaptic touchpad on a gigabyte notebook computer... is it already documented or is it ok to report? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingTouchpadDetection
[23:10] <goddard> just want a game made for linux that is like star craft
[23:10] <nicomachus> it's not playonlinux, it's gaming on linux.
[23:10] <nicomachus> goddard: it's not wine gaming. it's the sub in which your question would be topic. because it's not here.
[23:11] <nicomachus> topical*
[23:14] <eelstrebor> can someone tell me why hplip*.run can't install the driver because of dnsmasq running while the tarball can be installed? hplip*.run is saying that dnsmasq is a package manager - ???
[23:16] <nacc> eelstrebor: you would need to give a lot more context than that?
[23:16] <reisio> eelstrebor: I can tell you that you don't want to be running that file
[23:16] <eelstrebor> which file?
[23:16] <reisio> hplip*.run
[23:17] <eelstrebor> what's wrong with running that file?
[23:17] <reisio> hplip is in the standard repos
[23:17] <reisio> most things are
[23:18] <reisio> the rare things that aren't, you arguably still wouldn't want to run a .run for
[23:18] <zykotick9> reisio: +1
[23:18] <reisio> zykotick9++
[23:18] <eelstrebor> it's an old version in the repos
[23:25] <eelstrebor> hmm, there's a ppa for linux-mint but i don't see one for ubuntu
[23:25] <reisio> eelstrebor: you need a specific version of hplip? Which? Why?
[23:26] <nacc> eelstrebor: well, you're not running something actually supported by ubuntu, but if you want to pastebin the full output and what command you ran, you're more likely to get help
[23:26] <reisio> a random crappy binary for any Debian distro will "work" for any other
[23:26] <kus> how do I add multiple attachments in launchpad?
[23:26] <nacc> kus: one at a time
[23:26] <eelstrebor> even though i installed hplip from the repository it's not offered as an option for printing
[23:26] <kus> nacc, so I'd add more attachments after opening the bug?
[23:26] <reisio> eelstrebor: hp-setup
[23:27] <nacc> kus: that's what i've tended to do, it seems to only let you add one attachment during filing
[23:27] <reisio> or just go to the cups webUI and set it up
[23:27] <kus> thanks nacc I thought it was pebkac
[23:31] <eelstrebor> reisio, by golly you're right - thanks
[23:31] <linuxuz3r_> ubuntu xx when?
[23:32] <kus> please take a look at my bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1563588
[23:32] <coffeeguy> hi i switched from nvidia drivers to Xorg in 16.04 and ubuntu now won't load up
[23:32] <reisio> eelstrebor: nps
[23:32] <reisio> coffeeguy: switch back?
[23:32] <coffeeguy> how?
[23:33] <nacc> linuxuz3r_: was that a question?
[23:33] <eelstrebor> nacc, i had assumed that others had encountered my problem - if need be i would have pastebin what happened - pretty strage that hplip*run was saying that dnsmasq was a package manager - stopping dnsmasq allowed the software to continue
[23:33] <linuxuz3r_> nacc yes
[23:33] <nacc> linuxuz3r_: can you please rephrase? it's not clear to me what you're asking
[23:34] <nacc> eelstrebor: it's generally better to not assume that, and to provide more info to the channel (in my observation of those that get help)
[23:34] <k1l> coffeeguy: #ubuntu+1 for unstable releases
[23:34] <linuxuz3r_> when is ubuntu xx going to be released
[23:34] <coffeeguy> ok k1l
[23:34] <nacc> linuxuz3r_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[23:34] <k1l> linuxuz3r_: end of april
[23:35] <zykotick9> linuxuz3r_: are you aware ubuntu version numbers are the release year/month?  just checkin'
[23:36] <linuxuz3r_> no
[23:36] <linuxuz3r_> zykotick9, no
[23:37] <stacks88> i ran zerofree /dev/sda1 but i didnt run -v for verbose. its seemingly taking so far 6 mins and still going. im anxious to know whats giong on and regret not running it with -v -- can i ctrl+c this zerofree process and it wont screw anything up ? so i can re-run it but with -v this time
[23:37] <zykotick9> 16.04 means 2016, 4th month.
[23:37] <roygbiv> stacks88, zerofree is just zeroing out the unused space on your disk. you can kill it, sure, or let it run. it doesn’t touch allocated blocks
[23:39] <roygbiv> if you had data on blocks not marked as allocated, your problems are much much larger than zerofree overwriting those blocks with zeroes ;)
[23:39] <reisio> stacks88: don't cross post
[23:39] <Guruofthematrix_> #category5
[23:49] <naamik> Hi, this guy, chrissicool, shows how to enable 256-color terminal at http://techcresendo.com/2015/11/16/enable-256-bit-color-terminal-ubuntu/ , but his terminal also shows the time, how do you enable this?
[23:53] <Yehai> bazhang is a FAGGOT
[23:53] <Yehai> bazhang is a FAGGOT
[23:53] <Yehai> bazhang is a FAGGOT
[23:53] <Yehai> bazhang is a FAGGOT
[23:53] <Yehai> bazhang is a FAGGOT
[23:54] <Maratus> Anyone know how to run an application without a border without making it fullscreen?
[23:54] <reisio> naamik: he's got output from 'date', probably, in his PS1 var: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-tip-prompt/
[23:54] <roygbiv> naamik, that’s a configuration option in your shell’s prompt setup
[23:54] <reisio> Maratus: some window manager's have that as an option in the specific window options
[23:55] <reisio> Maratus: frequently the top bar decoration at left-most, instead of with those at right
[23:55] <k1l> naamik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizingBashPrompt
[23:55] <k1l> naamik: and "man bash" should have a list to what variable includes the time
[23:55] <Maratus> reisio: Thanks, I'll go to XFCE's channel then, I wasn't sure if it was a WM specific question.
[23:56] <k1l> naamik: something like \t or \T
[23:56] <reisio> "Xfce"
[23:56] <reisio> you could also see what wmctrl/devilspie/2 has to say about it
[23:58] <sebsebseb> back


[00:13] <lee98632> ok, iam back online..so wondering who can help me with a permissions error
[00:15] <lee98632> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5690593/  is the paste bin
[00:22] <lee98632> Never mind, i figured it out, but.. I an
[00:24] <lee98632> I am not sure what it is I did ...I had to "tick " 2 boxes . on was do this with all sub folders.
[00:24] <delac> seems that nautilus search defaults to Reversed (view) Order. You can change it during search, but the setting won't stick. Is this a (reported) bug?
[00:25] <delac> talking about nautilus 3.8
[00:25] <lee98632> hmm no Kubuntu 13.04
[00:26] <lee98632> I wasn't able to transfer video to my videos folders nor was I able to transfer pictures and other documents.
[00:28] <lee98632> unless kubuntu is running nautlis
[00:29] <lee98632> Ah Dolphin
[00:29] <delac> yes, if you are using kubuntu, you probably dont have to worry about my problem
[00:30] <lee98632> lol, I was running ubuntu and couldnt get  thumbnsils.
[00:30] <lee98632> Well Edubuntu 13.04
[00:30] <lee98632> what is your issue?
[00:31] <delac> as I said: seems that nautilus search defaults to Reversed (view) Order. You can change it during search, but the setting won't stick. Is this a (reported) bug?
[00:32] <delac> the reversed view order makes the search less usefull as way to quickly browse to whatever location you want
[00:33] <lee98632> eww ouch, i have not tried that
[00:34] <lee98632> i just used the regular search, didn't know about the reverse part.
[02:48] <Mneumonic> In 13.04 I am unable to adjust mouse speed.  I change the slider but it doesn't save.
[02:50] <lee98632> Hi, any one have a minute or 2, I have a bug. that has something to do with permissions.
[03:05] <lee98632> Never mind for some odd reason the thing has me listed as a "group"  and I had to have it remember me as a group..strange error though
[05:13] <yeahuyen> hi i have a problem with the friends app, i can post to facebook but i dont get the feed,
[05:14] <k3pl3r16> yeahuyen: do you get any errors if you start the app in a terminal?
[05:15] <k3pl3r16> yeahuyen: also what is the name of the app
[05:53] <ajovanov93> the kernel is broken
[05:53] <ajovanov93> it fails to mount VFS
[05:53] <ajovanov93> at (0, 0)
[05:54] <ajovanov93> it happens only with the latest kernel
[05:54] <ajovanov93> first it said something about hd0
[05:54] <ajovanov93> and unavailable to read it
[05:54] <ajovanov93> then a panic occured with the unable to mount VFS message
[05:54] <ajovanov93> ubuntu boots fine with previous versions of the kernel
[05:55] <ajovanov93> that's linux 3.8.0 - 17
[05:55] <ajovanov93> i booted with linux 3.8.0 - 16
[05:55] <ajovanov93> with no problems
[07:16] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:28] <gotwig> hey, quick easy question: Does Ubuntu 13.04 support WPA2 Enterprise / PEAP / MSCHAPv2 / AES?
[08:28] <gotwig> I could connect easily in ubuntu 12.04
[08:28] <gotwig> now, I cant connect
[08:29] <gotwig> I have an asus zenbookUX32VD
[08:30] <gotwig> It seems like my connection details are wrong or something like htat
[08:48] <gotwig> I am so *****ing angry : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1104476
[08:52] <alankila> I would recommend not adding 'this bug is very important to me' type messages.  Such stuff is now allowed to happen
[08:52] <gotwig> *not
[08:53] <alankila> I know it's a lost cause because so many people already do this, but as a general rule they are useless additions that just spam involved people
[08:53] <brendand> gotwig, could you do 'ls /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/'
[08:53] <alankila> anyway did you try to work out if you actually have the certificate authority being unofficial problem
[08:53] <alankila> there are tweaks suggested in the bug report that could fix it if this is the issue
[08:53] <brendand> gotwig, you are using a development release. stuff is prone to break
[08:55] <brendand> gotwig, actually reading the bug report, that won't help so nevermind
[08:55] <gotwig> there is a solution
[08:55] <gotwig> :D
[08:55]  * gotwig is happy
[08:55] <gotwig> see my latest comment
[08:56] <alankila> again, please do not spam the bug list. That does not add information for other people.
[08:56] <gotwig> actually its good that I noticed this bug
[08:56] <alankila> the suggestion is already there
[08:56] <gotwig> because people tought that its only special
[08:56] <gotwig> to the specific unitversity site thing
[08:56] <brendand> gotwig, which file was that line in?
[08:56] <gotwig> but it isn't, its everywhere, and I proofed that
[08:57] <gotwig> brendand: /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[08:58] <gotwig> brendand: you know, there comes a dialog that asks you for the certificate. I pressed ignore, but it still did this weird thing and added the line to the profile
[08:58] <brendand> gotwig, that's a directory, which file was it in? or was that the name of the file?
[08:58] <gotwig> brendand: every network profile
[08:59] <gotwig> brendand: with the specified settings
[09:00] <brendand> gotwig, can you paste the contents of one of the files to the bug? censor any credentials if needed
[09:00] <gotwig> brendand: sure
[09:06] <gotwig> brendand: how should I mark the affected area?
[09:06] <gotwig> brendand: or should I do a patch?
[09:10] <brendand> gotwig, did you attach it?
[09:11] <brendand> gotwig, let's just see the file first
[09:18] <gotwig> brendand: finished. I gotta go. Thanks for the help
[09:19] <brendand> gotwig, don't get that with windows ;)
[09:19] <gotwig> brendand: :D Ubuntu on my zenbook is gorgourusus you know :D
[09:20] <gotwig> its very nice, I cant describe :> now I think this is the last issue with 13.04 for my notebook
[09:20] <brendand> gotwig, just to confirm, you canceled the prompt for the certificate when requested, right?
[09:20] <brendand> gotwig, but that line got added anyway
[09:20] <gotwig> brendand: yes, I pressed "ignore" and "dont show again"
[09:21] <brendand> gotwig, so i think this is probably a bug in network-manager-applet. this creates the connection file
[09:21] <brendand> gotwig, i will try to remember to raise this with the maintainer later on today (he is in canada)
[09:22]  * brendand realises having bug-control membership is sometimes useful!
[09:41] <zzecool> Hello guys im getting a strange problem after the upgrade to raring everything is fine  with unity but i cant get a wallpaper . My wallpaper is a mess o corrupted images from windows i open and close  like ghosts.  no mateer if i try to change it to something else it doesnt work
[09:42] <zzecool> Any advice will be helpfull thanks
[09:44] <zzecool> i will brb
[10:22] <philinux> BluesKaj: I spoke too soon yesterday lol about breakage
[11:18] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:28] <captine> i all.  on 13.04, has anyone experienced their skype alerts and any other sound alert as sounding really scratchy?
[11:28] <captine> music plays fine, but the one off alerts sound terrible
[11:31] <steveire> Yes. I noticed that
[11:31] <steveire> With skype
[11:38] <drhalan> everyone else having problems booting after the update yesterday?
[11:38] <drhalan> grub doesn't seem to find a kernel :/
[11:38] <drhalan> checked the filesystem with chroot and everything is fine. also linux-image-generic is installed
[11:40] <pmatulis> drhalan: time to open a bug
[11:44] <drhalan> maybe my boot partiting is borken i dont know
[11:44] <drhalan> but fsck doesn't complain
[11:45] <drhalan> im just happy my root filesystem still works. didn't make a backup for some time
[11:46] <yeahuyen> cant access my facebook feed with the friends-app
[11:46] <yeahuyen> (foprmerly gwibber)
[11:48] <yeahuyen> heres the terminal output
[11:48] <yeahuyen> http://pastebin.com/rnN9323J
[12:01] <BluesKaj> drhalan, boot partitions aren't really necessary as long the mbr is still intact
[12:04] <BluesKaj> drhalan, nvidia graphics ? , if so the new kernel module/nvidia driver fails to build . Drop to a tty and install nvidia-current
[12:04] <drhalan> BluesKaj: my kernel lies in boot
[12:04] <drhalan> i have nvidia graphics but i get stuck at GRUB promt so i don't know if thats the problem
[12:05] <BluesKaj> grub rescue ?
[12:12] <drhalan> yes
[12:13] <drhalan> no idea what to do there
[12:13] <drhalan> i am not home right now so i cannot try anything anyways
[12:13] <BluesKaj> well, if you upgraded to the new kernel version with nvidia then most likely the nvidia kernel module failed to build due to an apport/python package exclusion error.and ended up at tty prompt , altho grub menu itself seemed normal
[12:14] <BluesKaj> I ended upa t a tty prompt , so the conditions are differnt alright
[12:16] <BluesKaj> but installing nvidia-current resolved the problem with X
[12:19] <drhalan> maybe i will just chroot the filesystem again and run an apt-get upgrade
[12:28]  * BluesKaj shrugs
[12:30] <philinux> drhalan: while in chroot do an update-grub
[12:30] <drhalan> philinux: already did that but i was a bit confused becuase there was only one line output
[12:30] <drhalan> doesn it normally list the kernels?
[12:31] <BluesKaj> don't see how updating a broken kernel module is going to help , chroot or not
[12:32] <philinux> BluesKaj: I had to reset unity to get my desktop back to normal
[12:37] <pmatulis> drhalan: boot into an earlier kernel?
[12:39] <BluesKaj> philinux, I'm a KDE user , my trouble was with the nvidia driver module not building properly in the kernel , so we couldn't start X after the reboot , but the error showed apport/python was package missing.
[12:39] <philinux> BluesKaj: same here except It booted to just wallpaper
[12:40] <BluesKaj> didn't get past the tty prompt login here
[12:41] <philinux> BluesKaj: In haste I removed the new kernel and now wait for an update to fix the regression
[12:42] <drhalan> OFC my boot folder is on a sperate partition and i didn't mount it
[12:42] <drhalan> no wonder update-grub didn't find any kernels
[12:43] <BluesKaj> the older kernel was also affected by the error because the kernel update/upgrade included the '-16 '
[12:48] <philinux> BluesKaj: well the 310 driver built ok for 16
[12:49] <BluesKaj> philinux, the 304  (nvidia-current) works well here , no complaints ..I don't have a real fancy graphics card anyway , 8400gs is a basic entry level gpu that suits my needs
[12:51] <philinux> BluesKaj: indeed mines a 8600gt. no brill by any standards.
[12:56] <Atlantic777> What's happening after 13.04 final release? This is the first time I will be following ubuntu+1 development from start. :)
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Atlantic777, what's happening , how do you mean ?
[12:58] <Atlantic777> BluesKaj: when does it start 13.10 cycle? What's first to be done? When will some testing images be available?
[12:59] <Atlantic777> How can I test and help in the beginning?
[13:01] <BluesKaj> Atlantic777, well some ppl reset their sourecs.list to the next release (13.10) whatever the name is going to be and do release upgrade almost immediately if the repos have it.
[13:02] <BluesKaj> usually a few weeks go by before anything is available tho
[13:05] <Atlantic777> When will 13.10 aproximately be usable? I have some basic needs like gcc, eventually qt, awesome wm, irssi, firefox and thunderbird. I jumped in with 13.04 about in december/january an it works great. I'm used to testing/unstable system (gentoo testing and arch worked well for me for past few years) so crashes and bugs don't bother me.
[13:06] <Atlantic777> I just need some basic packages so, when can I expect that from 13.10? Couple of months? Longer? Immidiately when it becomes available?
[13:13] <BluesKaj> less then a month usually, Atlantic777
[13:14] <Atlantic777> Oh that's great! Thanks for the info. :)
[13:15] <BluesKaj> I use a separate hdd for testing OSs
[13:16] <BluesKaj> that way the main OS isn't affected by muck-ups
[14:08] <yeahuyen> having trouble with friends-app/gwibber wont show facebook feed, here is the terminal output http://pastebin.com/ftT7cKUp
[14:16] <genii-around> After a dist-upgrade this morning I notice tty1 is available again during login, yay!
[14:50] <alesan> hey I got a new computer yesterday, should I install the prerelease of 13.4, wait for 13.4 final, or stick with 12.10?
[14:53] <BluesKaj> alesan, that's up to you , but there is a nvidia driver bug atm
[14:54] <BluesKaj> on 13.04
[14:55] <alesan> BluesKaj, mh I am not sure what graphic chip it has, I do not like 3D stuff so I hope it's a baseline integrated intel chip or something
[14:56] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[14:56] <BluesKaj> alesan, just run lspci | grep vga in a terminal , that will give your graphics gpu
[14:58] <BluesKaj> oops VGA , it needs capitals
[14:59] <genii-around> alesan: If it's going to be your primary OS, I'd suggest to stick with 12.10 until after 13.04 hits official release
[15:18] <alesan> BluesKaj, well I have not installed it yet; I checked in the BIOS and it's nvidia/intel, I disabled the nvidia as gpus are useless to me, if I could disable anything about 3D I'd do it right away
[15:18] <alesan> genii-around, is there a date 13.04 is supposed to be out?
[15:19] <genii-around> alesan: April 25th
[15:21] <yeahuyen> C
[15:23] <BluesKaj> alesan, disabling gpus ? ?
[15:23] <jrr> alesan: a good approximation for release XX.YY is during month YY of year XX =]
[15:25] <alesan> jrr, one thing is april 9th one thing is 30th
[15:26] <philinux> alesan: 25th https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseSchedule
[15:27] <genii-around> !schedule
[15:27]  * genii-around goes to clean out the coffeepot
[15:27] <alesan> philinux, genii-around yes thanks :)
[15:46] <fginther> hello, anyone familiar with deja-dup back ups? I keep getting a error message: "Giving up on request after 5 attempts, last status 400 Bad Request"
[15:46] <fginther> backing up to ubuntu 1
[15:49] <yeahuyen> i get the same error
[15:51] <DJones> Using Friends are you finding that the Timeline is stucj in the top left of the screen without anyway to move it elsewhere on the screen
[15:52] <yeahuyen> DJones: hold down alt and click anywhere on the window to move it
[15:52] <DJones> yeahuyen: Thanks, the top menu was stuck offscreen
[15:52] <yeahuyen> DJones: does facebook work for you?
[15:53] <DJones> I've not tried facebook, its just got twitter on it at the minute and isn't updating, just stuck at 23 hours ago
[15:54] <DJones> Actually, online accounts doesn't have an option for twitter
[15:56] <yeahuyen> yeah, that just went away within the last couple of days, i had twitter working but i cant get any feed from facebook
[15:56] <DJones> I've just added facebook, but its not updating the timeline for it
[15:57] <DJones> Ah, fixed, Facebook was turned off in online accounts
[15:58] <DJones> The Facebook Friends on/off switch was on, but the overall facebook on/off was switched off, as soon as I turned that on, it updated instantly
[15:59] <DJones> Just need twitter back on it now :)
[16:13] <yeahuyen> you kow whats funny? when you load up the friends-app in gnome-shell it appears on the screen like it is supposed to
[16:14] <yeahuyen> *know*
[16:31] <mikehaas763> Does the text seem too large in 13.04 for any of you?
[16:32] <mikehaas763> There is now only a large text on off switch. In 12.10 there was the ability to go small. :(
[16:36] <jbicha> mikehaas763: if you install gnome-tweak-tool and go to the fonts tab, you can adjust the text scaling factor
[16:37] <mikehaas763> TY
[16:39] <genii-around> mikehaas763: As I understand, the projected timeline for Mir is for 14.04 LTS release
[16:44] <lynxy> Hi
[16:44] <lynxy> may I ask about ubuntu 13.04 beta 2?
[16:44] <mikehaas763> Yes
[16:45] <lynxy> Did someone signaled problems after latest updates?
[16:45] <mikehaas763> I didn't when I upgraded yesterday
[16:45] <lynxy> cause mine stopped working
[16:46] <mikehaas763> what are the symptoms?
[16:46] <lynxy> After updating today when I came back to desktop I could not access anything
[16:46] <lynxy> it was dead
[16:46] <mikehaas763> What are you seeing anything?
[16:47] <mikehaas763> what are the behaviors now?
[16:47] <lynxy> well, now I reinstalled xubuntu 12.10
[16:47] <lynxy> maybe it was something related to video
[16:48] <lynxy> cause the resolution was down to 800x600 i guess
[16:48] <mikehaas763> well, hard to say if you don't have more details of what was going on. It could have just been that something went wrong during the upggrade
[16:48] <lynxy> yep
[16:48] <lynxy> I will try install it again
[16:49] <lynxy> the daily build it's ok to install isn't it?
[16:49] <mikehaas763> maybe use a live cd first?
[16:49] <lynxy> I can't
[16:49] <lynxy> i have a problem with that
[16:49] <mikehaas763> well, not necessarily I would use beta 2
[16:49] <mikehaas763> live usb?
[16:50] <lynxy> yes
[16:50] <lynxy> let me explain
[16:51] <lynxy> I can't install 12.04 and 12.10 normally, in install them in nomodeset and update from revovery to the latest nvidia drivers, 13.04 will install but when I try to open an application it will freeze to, so I need to install latest update too
[16:51] <lynxy> video
[16:52] <lynxy> It only works after changing from nouveau to latest nvidia drivers
[16:54] <lynxy> i'll give it another try now, thanks
[16:59] <boldfilter> My unity isnt showing up just blank screen
[17:00] <boldfilter> Changed video drivers, reinstalled unity, nothing
[17:00] <boldfilter> Raring
[17:05] <genii-around> boldfilter: nvidia?
[17:05] <boldfilter> Yessir
[17:05] <IdleOne> oh, known bug
[17:05] <IdleOne> there was a lot of hooplah about that yesterday
[17:06] <boldfilter> Allright, as long as its known
[17:06] <boldfilter> Its fine with no effects
[17:07] <genii-around> boldfilter: The nvidia-current driver should work, but none of the nvidia-experimental
[17:10] <boldfilter> Trying that now
[17:59] <boldfilter> I cant get it to work
[18:00] <boldfilter> Looks like Im just going to have to wait
[18:01] <boldfilter> genii-around
[18:12] <genii-around> boldfilter: You might also want to :   echo 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="nomodeset" ' | sudo tee -a  /etc/default/grub    && sudo update-grub
[18:12] <genii-around> ( to get rid of nouveau loading )
[18:15] <genii-around> boldfilter: Also does your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file have nvidia loading in it?
[18:22] <SonikkuAmerica> The Lubuntu 13.04 release notes still say "This is still an ALPHA release." even though Beta 2 is out.
[18:22] <SonikkuAmerica> (This occurs when [ update-manager -cd ] is run.
[18:22] <SonikkuAmerica> )
[18:50] <lynxy> hi mikehaas763
[18:50] <lynxy> i've reinstalled beta2 14.04
[18:50] <lynxy> 13.04
[18:50] <lynxy> I still have the same bihaviour
[18:52] <lynxy> The system fails after I install the latest nvidia drivers, but only after applying latest updates
[18:55] <BluesKaj> lynxy, the latest kernel can'r build the nvidia module due to missing apport and python packages , the solution is to install nvidia-current to start , then some of the other drivers might work like the 313  or the 310 , but the nvidia-current 304.84 works for sure
[18:58] <lynxy> I understand, I am forced to install nvidia drivers soon after installing ubuntu anyway, because my system is freezing with nouveau drivers
[18:59] <lynxy> should I install linux-headers-generic and linux-image-generic too?
[19:05] <BluesKaj> looks like kernel patch is coming down the pipe
[19:06] <BluesKaj> nouveau is a nvidia driver
[19:11] <lynxy> yes it is, but nouveau is in conflict with newer nvidia cards
[20:47] <tekonivel> Hi, i'm afraid i am not properly understanding what is replacing Gwibber? Is 'friends-app' it?
[20:47] <tekonivel> ...in Raring, i mean
[20:48] <k1l> same for me
[20:48] <k1l> i get twitter notifications but i dont know which app should handle that
[20:49] <tekonivel> k1l: i installed friends-app, and it looks like the screenshots of "QML Gwibber" which is saw on OMG! Ubuntu (http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/revamped-gwibber-gets-shown-off)
[20:50] <tekonivel> it looks and behaves like Ubuntu Touch
[20:50] <tekonivel> my update removed Gwibber, and also accounts-plugins-* packages, and installed friends-* packages instead
[20:51] <k1l> hmm
[20:51] <allu3> https://bugs.launchpad.net/hud/+bug/1165420 could someone test this?
[21:47] <lynxy> anyone installed skype 4.1 on 13.04 beta 2?
[22:08] <lynxy> anyone installed skype 4.1 on 13.04 beta 2?


[19:54] <cob-olp> bobweaver: hi
[19:54] <bobweaver> hey there
[19:55] <cob-olp> bobweaver: I've made remote access to my panda
[19:55] <bobweaver> cool
[19:55] <bobweaver> give me a couple of min
[19:55] <bobweaver> yoou need my public ssh ?
[19:55] <cob-olp> I can give you login/password
[19:55] <cob-olp> for ssh
[19:57] <cob-olp> I wanted at least to install all obvious packages like ubuntu-omap4-extras-multimedia, but in fact now I have problems even with them
[20:00] <cob-olp> it looks that they may be not maintained for 11.10
[20:10] <bobweaver> ok cob-olp  I are you ready ?
[20:11] <cob-olp> all the time
[20:13] <cob-olp> is it possible for me to see what you are doing?
[20:13] <bobweaver> sure
[20:13] <cob-olp> maybe I will learn something
[20:13] <bobweaver> do you have teamviewer installed ?
[20:13] <cob-olp> no
[20:13] <bobweaver> go install it to reg computer
[20:13] <bobweaver> and I will let you watch my dsktop
[20:13] <bobweaver> desktop
[20:14] <bobweaver> I will stop what I am doing till then
[20:14] <bobweaver> in fact I will close ssh session now
[20:15] <cob-olp> ok
[20:15] <bobweaver> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoY4e7TGTNI&feature=g-upl
[20:16] <bobweaver> let me know when installed
[20:17] <cob-olp> done
[20:17] <bobweaver> ok open it and go to the meeting tab
[20:17] <bobweaver> look at pm